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Starting this thread because at blinkoncrime.com we are approaching 300 comments on this topic, and the info is coming rapid fire, I will try to bring over as much as I can.

Article and comments:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/04/24/sandra-cantu-case-sources-lawless-relative-arrested-on-sex-charges/

Blink

Brother of Timothy Lawless

Case Information Case Number: NCR79526 butte county, ca
Case Title: PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, JEFFREY CARL
Case Type: D.U.I.
Filing Date: 06/29/98
Disposition Date: 12/03/98
CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO & SENTENCED

Parties Name Type Attorney
LAWLESS, JEFFREY CARL DEFENDANT VANDERVOORT, J JOSEPH
Charges Count Filing Document Degree Charge
00 CIT ASF ADMIN SCREENING FEE

Plea:
Plea Date:
Disposition:

Sentence:

00 CIT Misdemeanor (A) 1202.4 PC RESTITUTION FINE

Plea:
Plea Date:
Disposition:

Sentence:

00 Misdemeanor (A) 1214.1(a) PC CIVIL ASSESSMENTS

Plea:
Plea Date:
Disposition:

Sentence:

01 CIT Misdemeanor (C) 23152(a) CVC DRIVING UNDER INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL/DRUGS

Plea: NG
Plea Date: 08/04/98
Disposition: 12/03/98
CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO
Sentence: 12/03/98
SUMMARY PROBN 36 MO;48 HRS BCJ-REPORT
1-8-99 8PM;$1248+$100+$24+$35 IN MONTHLY
PMTS OF $75;LEVEL I DUI SCHOOL
02 CIT Infraction (T) 16028)(a) CVC NO INSURANCE

Plea: NG
Plea Date: 08/04/98
Disposition: 12/03/98
DISMISSED
Sentence:

03 CIT Infraction (T) 21657 CVC ONE-WAY TRAFFIC AND OFF-CENTER LANES

Plea: NG
Plea Date: 08/04/98
Disposition: 12/03/98
DISMISSED
Sentence:

04 CIT Infraction (T) 14601.1(a) CVC DRIVING WHILE SUSPENDED OR REVOKED

Plea: NG
Plea Date: 08/04/98
Disposition: 12/03/98
DISMISSED
Sentence:

Actions Date Action Description
03/07/00 ABST TO DMV - FTP (DE3) LICENSE SUSPENDED
02/14/00 NTC: CIVIL ASSESSMENT ADDED-NO ADDRESS
$1433
01/13/00 NTC: TICKLER: 10-DAY NOTICE
$750 APRIL-JAN’00 PMTS
01/06/00 NTC: TICKLER: 10-DAY NOTICE
$750 APRIL-JAN’00 PMTS
01/26/99 ABST TO DMV - CONVICTION (DE1)
09/08/98 MOTION TO WITHDRAW AS ATTORNEY OF RECORD
08/04/98 WAIVER OF DEFT’S PERSONAL PRESENCE 977 PC
08/04/98 STIPULATION FOR COMMISSIONER TO SIT AS
JUDGE PRO TEM
06/29/98 CITATION FILED BY CPD 98-4576 OFFICER 1295
06/29/98 O/R AGREEMENT SIGNED BY DEFT

Events Date Time Event Description Dept Code Department/Judge
12/03/98 13:30 DISPOSITION SETTING

Disposition Date: 12/03/98
PLED NOLO; WAIVED TIME, SENTENCED CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
10/22/98 13:00 DISPOSITION/SETTING
DEFT ORDERED PERSONALLY PRESENT

Disposition Date: 10/22/98
CONT FOR DISPO SET CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
09/28/98 08:00 JURY TRIAL - MUNI CT CRIM/TRAFFIC

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
VACATED C11 HON WILLIAM O SCOTT; COMMISSIONER
09/24/98 13:00 TRIAL READINESS
AND MOTION TO W/DRAW AS ATTY OF RECORD
JT SET FOR 9-28-98

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
TRIAL DATE VACATED; CONT FOR SETTING CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
09/24/98 00:00 MTN: TO WITHDRAW AS ATTORNEY OF RECORD

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
WITHDRAWN CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
08/27/98 10:00 PRETRIAL CONFERENCE

Disposition Date: 08/27/98
TRIAL DATE SET C06 HON DARRELL STEVENS; JUDGE
08/04/98 08:30 ARRAIGNMENT

Disposition Date: 08/04/98
PLED NOT GLTY BY ATTY;T/W;SET FOR P/T

Case Information Case Number:   NCR79526 butte county, ca
Case Title:   PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, JEFFREY CARL
Case Type:   D.U.I.
Filing Date:   06/29/98
Disposition Date:   12/03/98
   CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO & SENTENCED
 
Parties Name   Type   Attorney
LAWLESS, JEFFREY CARL    DEFENDANT    VANDERVOORT, J JOSEPH
   Charges    Count   Filing Document   Degree   Charge   
   00   CIT      ASF       ADMIN SCREENING FEE   
                  
      Plea:            
      Plea Date:            
      Disposition:            
                  
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
   00   CIT   Misdemeanor (A)   1202.4    PC   RESTITUTION FINE   
                  
      Plea:            
      Plea Date:            
      Disposition:            
                  
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
   00      Misdemeanor (A)   1214.1(a)    PC   CIVIL ASSESSMENTS   
                  
      Plea:            
      Plea Date:            
      Disposition:            
                  
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
   01   CIT   Misdemeanor (C)   23152(a)    CVC   DRIVING UNDER INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL/DRUGS   
                  
      Plea:   NG         
      Plea Date:   08/04/98         
      Disposition:   12/03/98         
         CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO          
      Sentence:   12/03/98         
         SUMMARY PROBN 36 MO;48 HRS BCJ-REPORT         
         1-8-99 8PM;$1248+$100+$24+$35 IN MONTHLY         
         PMTS OF $75;LEVEL I DUI SCHOOL         
   02   CIT   Infraction (T)   16028)(a)    CVC   NO INSURANCE   
                  
      Plea:   NG         
      Plea Date:   08/04/98         
      Disposition:   12/03/98         
         DISMISSED          
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
   03   CIT   Infraction (T)   21657    CVC   ONE-WAY TRAFFIC AND OFF-CENTER LANES   
                  
      Plea:   NG         
      Plea Date:   08/04/98         
      Disposition:   12/03/98         
         DISMISSED          
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
   04   CIT   Infraction (T)   14601.1(a)    CVC   DRIVING WHILE SUSPENDED OR REVOKED   
                  
      Plea:   NG         
      Plea Date:   08/04/98         
      Disposition:   12/03/98         
         DISMISSED          
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
 
Actions Date   Action Description
03/07/00   ABST TO DMV - FTP (DE3) LICENSE SUSPENDED
02/14/00   NTC: CIVIL ASSESSMENT ADDED-NO ADDRESS
  $1433
01/13/00   NTC: TICKLER: 10-DAY NOTICE
  $750 APRIL-JAN'00 PMTS
01/06/00   NTC: TICKLER: 10-DAY NOTICE
  $750 APRIL-JAN'00 PMTS
01/26/99   ABST TO DMV - CONVICTION (DE1)
09/08/98   MOTION TO WITHDRAW AS ATTORNEY OF RECORD
08/04/98   WAIVER OF DEFT'S PERSONAL PRESENCE 977 PC
08/04/98   STIPULATION FOR COMMISSIONER TO SIT AS
  JUDGE PRO TEM
06/29/98   CITATION FILED BY CPD 98-4576 OFFICER 1295
06/29/98   O/R AGREEMENT SIGNED BY DEFT
 
Events Date   Time   Event Description   Dept Code   Department/Judge
12/03/98   13:30   DISPOSITION SETTING

Disposition Date: 12/03/98
PLED NOLO; WAIVED TIME, SENTENCED   CSM   HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
10/22/98   13:00   DISPOSITION/SETTING
  DEFT ORDERED PERSONALLY PRESENT

Disposition Date: 10/22/98
CONT FOR DISPO SET   CSM   HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
09/28/98   08:00   JURY TRIAL - MUNI CT CRIM/TRAFFIC

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
VACATED   C11   HON WILLIAM O SCOTT; COMMISSIONER
09/24/98   13:00   TRIAL READINESS
  AND MOTION TO W/DRAW AS ATTY OF RECORD
  JT SET FOR 9-28-98

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
TRIAL DATE VACATED; CONT FOR SETTING   CSM   HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
09/24/98   00:00   MTN: TO WITHDRAW AS ATTORNEY OF RECORD

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
WITHDRAWN   CSM   HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
08/27/98   10:00   PRETRIAL CONFERENCE

Disposition Date: 08/27/98
TRIAL DATE SET   C06   HON DARRELL STEVENS; JUDGE
08/04/98   08:30   ARRAIGNMENT

Disposition Date: 08/04/98
PLED NOT GLTY BY ATTY;T/W;SET FOR P/T


doubledecker
Submitted on 2009/04/27 at 4:12pm
Case Information Case Number: NT016910 butte county, ca
Case Title: PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, JEFFREY
Case Type: REGISTRATION
Filing Date: 09/30/97
Disposition Date: 07/24/98
BAIL PAID/FORFEIT AFTER FTA - CONV

Parties Name Type Attorney
LAWLESS, JEFFREY DEFENDANT
Charges Count Filing Document Degree Charge
01 CIT Infraction (T) 4000(a) CVC REGISTRATION REQUIRED

Plea:
Plea Date:
Disposition: 07/24/98
BAIL PAID/FORFEITED (CONVICTION)
Sentence:

02 CIT Infraction (T) 26708(a) CVC RESTRICTED VIEW - SIGN, STICKERS, ETC.

Plea:
Plea Date:
Disposition: 07/24/98
BAIL PAID/FORFEITED (CONVICTION)
Sentence:

Actions Date Action Description
06/29/98 RELEASE TO DMV - FTA (DE2)
PIF GCSV/ALHAMBRA 5-28-98 CK
04/01/98 ABST TO DMV - FTA (DE5) LICENSE HOLD

Events Date Time Event Description Dept Code Department/Judge
10/29/97 08:00 TRAFFIC ARRAIGNMENT - APPEAR/POST BAIL
BAIL + FTA AMT = $389 AS OF 11/26/97

Disposition Date: 03/26/98
REFERRED TO GC SERVICES

Case Information Case Number:   NT016910  butte county, ca
Case Title:   PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, JEFFREY
Case Type:   REGISTRATION
Filing Date:   09/30/97
Disposition Date:   07/24/98
   BAIL PAID/FORFEIT AFTER FTA - CONV
 
Parties Name   Type   Attorney
LAWLESS, JEFFREY    DEFENDANT    
   Charges    Count   Filing Document   Degree   Charge   
   01   CIT   Infraction (T)   4000(a)    CVC   REGISTRATION REQUIRED   
                  
      Plea:            
      Plea Date:            
      Disposition:   07/24/98         
         BAIL PAID/FORFEITED (CONVICTION)          
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
   02   CIT   Infraction (T)   26708(a)    CVC   RESTRICTED VIEW - SIGN, STICKERS, ETC.   
                  
      Plea:            
      Plea Date:            
      Disposition:   07/24/98         
         BAIL PAID/FORFEITED (CONVICTION)          
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
 
Actions Date   Action Description
06/29/98   RELEASE TO DMV - FTA (DE2)
  PIF GCSV/ALHAMBRA 5-28-98 CK
04/01/98   ABST TO DMV - FTA (DE5) LICENSE HOLD
 
Events Date   Time   Event Description   Dept Code   Department/Judge
10/29/97   08:00   TRAFFIC ARRAIGNMENT - APPEAR/POST BAIL
  BAIL + FTA AMT = $389 AS OF 11/26/97

Disposition Date: 03/26/98
REFERRED TO GC SERVICES
 

Posted by doubledecker at blinkoncrime.com
this is the mother and the two brothers, or the mother, one brother jeffrey Carl Lawless/ Gomes and the father.

father and one brother are both named gary d lawless.

mother is marylin, she would be over 70 yrs old now. seems must be some kind of family dispute. I know they are on a lot of land deeds back and forth, not sure what they were doing, but also a lot of tax liens.

I have many court docs for deeds, liens, child support, and arrests for traffic, dui’s, drugs, warrants and top of warrants etc. and of course the one for gary d lawless(brother or father) for failing to register as a sex offender in 2002.

CASE NUMBER:
FL35509
CASE TITLE:
LAWLESS VS. GOMES
CASE DESCRIPTION:
***DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
FILING DATE:
03/17/1993
DISPOSITION DESCRIPTION:
DISMISSED
DISPOSITION DATE:
04/12/1993

PARTIES
PARTY NAME RELATIONSHIP ATTORNEY NAME

LAWLESS, GARY D.
PLAINTIFF PRO PER

GOMES, JEFF C.
DEFENDANT N/A

GOMES, MARILYN E.
DEFENDANT N/A

EVENTS
DATE TIME DESCRIPTION DISPOSITION

04/05/1993 1:45PM OSC RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TRO CONT TO 04/12/93 BY COURT

04/12/1993 1:45PM OSC RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TRO GRANTED

ACTIONS
DATE DESCRIPTION

03/17/1993 OSC & TRO RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE

03/29/1993 PROOF OF SERVICE

03/29/1993 PROOF OF SERVICE TO JEFF C. GOMES

this is the mother and the two brothers, or the mother, one brother jeffrey Carl Lawless/ Gomes and the father.

father and one brother are both named gary d lawless. 

mother is marylin, she would be over 70 yrs old now.  seems must be some kind of family dispute.  I know they are on a lot of land deeds back and forth, not sure what they were doing, but also a lot of tax liens. 

I have many court docs for deeds, liens, child support, and arrests for traffic, dui's, drugs, warrants and top of warrants etc.  and of course the one for gary d lawless(brother or father) for failing to register as a sex offender in 2002. 

CASE NUMBER:   
FL35509
CASE TITLE:   
LAWLESS  VS.  GOMES
CASE DESCRIPTION:   
***DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
FILING DATE:   
03/17/1993
DISPOSITION DESCRIPTION:   
DISMISSED
DISPOSITION DATE:   
04/12/1993

PARTIES
PARTY NAME   RELATIONSHIP   ATTORNEY NAME
 

LAWLESS, GARY D.
PLAINTIFF    PRO PER
 

GOMES, JEFF C.
DEFENDANT    N/A
 

GOMES, MARILYN E.
DEFENDANT    N/A
 


EVENTS
DATE   TIME   DESCRIPTION   DISPOSITION
 

04/05/1993    1:45PM    OSC RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TRO    CONT TO 04/12/93 BY COURT
 

04/12/1993    1:45PM    OSC RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TRO    GRANTED
 


ACTIONS
DATE   DESCRIPTION
 

03/17/1993    OSC & TRO RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
 

03/29/1993    PROOF OF SERVICE
 

03/29/1993    PROOF OF SERVICE TO JEFF C. GOMES

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Blink, I'm not sure what's going on here, but I do see many people with multiple names. THAT'S ALWAYS TROUBLE.

Unraveling all these names is gonna be difficult for internet posters and even the FBI.

Blink I think you accidentally posted Doubledecker's IP address. I believe it was in post two.

Please give that a looksee and will a Mod delete this post.

TIA

Edit:  Thanks Rob, I deleted it

I’m just pulling this one out by itself(from above) so it is easy to reference

failing to register as a sex offender charge for gary d lawless

the PC 290 is failer to register as a sex offender.

butte county ca
PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, GARY
CRIMINAL
06/13/02
12/17/02

01 COM Misdemeanor (A)290(g)(1) PC FAILURE TO REGISTER

Plea: NC
Plea Date: 12/17/02
Disposition: 12/17/02
CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO
Sentence: 12/17/02
FORMAL PROBN 36 MTHS; JAIL 30 DAYS;
11590 H&S; SRCH

I'm just pulling this one out by itself(from above) so it is easy to reference

failing to register as a sex offender charge for gary d lawless

the PC 290 is failer to register as a sex offender.


butte county ca
PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, GARY
CRIMINAL
06/13/02
12/17/02

01   COM   Misdemeanor (A)290(g)(1)    PC   FAILURE TO REGISTER
      
   Plea:   NC
   Plea Date:   12/17/02
   Disposition:   12/17/02
      CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO
   Sentence:   12/17/02
      FORMAL PROBN 36 MTHS; JAIL 30 DAYS;
      11590 H&S; SRCH

doubledecker
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Blink here is what I gathered on the whole Famdangaly.  The DOB's will help with determinign who is father and who is son.  It also lists other possible alias, as they go between Mom's maiden and married names:

Lawless
Short
Tieken, and
Gomes

Name: Timothy J Lawless
Birth Date: 11 Dec 1964
Gender: Male
Mother's Maiden Name: Tieken
Birth County: Glenn


brother
Name: Gary D Lawless
Birth Date: 7 Apr 1966
Gender: Male
Mother's Maiden Name: Tieken
Birth County: Napa


brother
Name: Jeffrey C Lawless
Birth Date: 21 Nov 1967
Gender: Male
Mother's Maiden Name: Tieken
Birth County: Napa


Mother of all boys above
Name: Marylin Elizabeth Tieken
Birth Date: 20 Mar 1937
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Forman
Birth County: Napa

Mother married Gary D Lawless AFTER all boys above were born
Name: Marylin E Tieken
Age: 30
Est. Birth: abt 1938
Spouse Name: Gary D Lawless
Spouse Age: 35
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1933
Date: 6 Jun 1968
Location: Napa


Mother divorces Gary D Lawless a month After she married himcaifornia divorce
Name: Marylin E Ticken
Spouse Name: Gary D Lawless
Location: Napa
Date: Jul 1968

Mother is also married to Gary D Lawless using the last name of SHORT, on the very same day she married him under the last name if Tieken


Name: Gary D Lawless
Age: 35
Est. Birth: abt 1933
Spouse Name: Marylin E Short
Spouse Age: 30
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1938
Date: 6 Jun 1968
Location: Napa


Mother then marries Manuel Gomes
Name: Marylin E Tieken
Age: 36
Est. Birth: abt 1937
Spouse Name: Manuel Gomes
Spouse Age: 44
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1929
Date: 30 Oct 1973
Location: Solano

I found no divorce for marilyn and manuel gomes

Wow, I just caught up on all the comments on your original post about the Timothy Lawless, MH connection. 

Doubledecker seems to have a lot of info on these two families. 

I just have to comend you for all your hard work.  I don't know where you get the energy to do it.  But I'm sure I'm not the only one that appreciates what you bring to us to help connect the dots.  Thank you.

Rob-

LOL, I got the bat message to Klaasend, thank you, and here I thought I was being so careful when pulling it.. yeesh. TY Klaas

Lone Monkey, thanks.  As Rob pointed out, there is so much going on here, names, backgrounds, SO's. This, combined with some of the comments I am seeing that DO NOT GET POSTED, makes me think we are on the cusp of "more". Ugh.

Blink

Is there any connection between this missing child and this case?  I think the girl pictured in the younger PE facebook looks a lot like this missing child.  Young PE may be related to her making the connection innocent.  I was hesitant to post it but this link indicates she may be in southern CA (alleged parental abduction from MN).

http://dojapp.doj.ca.gov/missing/detail.asp?FCN=1860906200131

I found a newspaper article from Brewster with a picture and name of John Lawless but it is a High School Homecoming thing and i think he would have been only 12 yr at the time not to mention this one is going by john instead of Timothy. ???????

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=r0MMAAAAIBAJ&sjid=RWMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2417,2038463&dq=john-lawless

Wow, twinkiesmom.  I'm not good at this, but I'm sure someone here can pull up the picture of PE with a little girl, & this one & put them side by side for comparison.

Here is the link again of PE facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/people/Philip-Espinosa/1356296112

And here is the link for the missing little girl: (Maya Marisol Espinosa)

http://dojapp.doj.ca.gov/missing/detail.asp?FCN=1860906200131

Case Information  Case Number: CM017360
Case Title: PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, GARY 
Case Type: CRIMINAL
Filing Date: 06/13/02
Disposition Date: 12/17/02
 CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO & SENTENCED



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Parties  Name Type Attorney
LAWLESS, GARY  DEFENDANT  KING, STEPHEN 
   In Custody? Y/N: N   Status: WARRNT
   Charges   Count Filing Document Degree Charge 
 00 CIT Misdemeanor (A) 1203.2(a)    PC VOP: FTA ON PTN, 10/20/03; PRB REVOKED 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 
     
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 00  Misdemeanor (A) 1202.4    PC RESTITUTION FINE 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 12/17/02
   P/PLAN 
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 00  Misdemeanor (A) SUPERVISION FEE    PC PROBATION SUPERVISION FEES 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 12/17/02
   P/PLAN 
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 00  Misdemeanor (A) 1203.2(a)    PC VIOLATION OF PROB -PETN FILED 10-1-03 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 
     
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 01 COM Misdemeanor (A) 290(g)(1)    PC FAILURE TO REGISTER 

  Plea: NC
  Plea Date: 12/17/02
  Disposition: 12/17/02
   CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO 
  Sentence: 12/17/02
   FORMAL PROBN 36 MTHS; JAIL 30 DAYS;
   11590 H&S; SRCH
   
 02 COM Misdemeanor (C) 23152(a)    CVC DUI ALCOHOL/DRUGS W PRIOR 

  Plea: NC
  Plea Date: 12/17/02
  Disposition: 12/17/02
   CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO; PRIOR ADM 
  Sentence: 12/17/02
   CONDITIONAL/REVOCABLE RELEASE 60MOS/
   JAIL 14 DYS;
   
 03 COM Misdemeanor (C) 23152(b)    CVC DRIVING W/.08% OR GREATER BLOOD ALCOHOL 

  Plea: NG
  Plea Date: 07/23/02
  Disposition: 12/17/02
   DISMISSED 
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 04 COM Misdemeanor (A) 148(a)(1)    PC RESIST, OBSTRUCT, DELAY PEACE OFFICER 

  Plea: NC
  Plea Date: 12/17/02
  Disposition: 12/17/02
   CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO 
  Sentence: 12/17/02
   SEE COUNT 2 FOR SENTENCE
   
   
Warrants   Issue Date Bail Amount Disposition Date Disposition Description
 11/17/03 $5,000.00       




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Actions  Date Action Description
11/17/03 WARRANT ISSUED TO OPD

 
10/01/03 PET FOR HEARING RE: V.O.P.

 
07/09/03 ORDER GRANTING FORMAL PROBATION SIGNED & FILED
  AMENDED

 
01/17/03 NTC: NTC OF RESCHEDULING
  PROBATION REVIEW

 
12/17/02 PAYMENT AGREEMENT FILED

 
12/17/02 ADVISEMENT OF RIGHTS, WAIVER & PLEA FORM

 
12/17/02 ORDER GRANTING FORMAL PROBATION SIGNED & FILED

 
12/17/02 ORDER GRANTING SUMMARY PROBATION

 
06/19/02 NTC: ARRAIGNMENT
  290(a)(1)(A)PC 23152(a)CVC 23152(b)CVC

 
06/13/02 COMPLAINT FILED BY DDA L. PASSMORE
  OPD 02-1827

 
05/09/02 BAIL BOND: SENECA INSURANCE; BEAR BB
  S10-00513046 $10000

 



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Events  Date Time Event Description Dept Code Department/Judge
01/26/04 09:30 CUSTODY STATUS
  DEFT MIGHT BE IN CUSTODY IN ALAMEDA
  COUNTY

Disposition Date: 01/26/04
OFF-CALENDAR; WARRANT TO REMAIN ACTIVE

 B12 HON. ROBERT A GLUSMAN; JUDGE
10/20/03 08:30 PET RE VIOLATION OF PROBATION

Disposition Date: 10/20/03
FTA; PROB RVKD; B/W ORD; BAIL SET $5000

 B12 HON. ROBERT A GLUSMAN; JUDGE
03/17/03 09:30 PROBATION REVIEW

Disposition Date: 03/17/03
PROBATION CONTINUED

 B12 HON. ROBERT A GLUSMAN; JUDGE
03/15/03 09:30 PROBATION REVIEW

Disposition Date: 01/17/03
ADVANCED TO 3/18/03

 B12 HON. ROBERT A GLUSMAN; JUDGE
12/17/02 09:30 MTN: REDUCE FELONY TO MISD

Disposition Date: 12/17/02
GRANTED

 B12 HON. ROBERT A GLUSMAN; JUDGE
12/17/02 09:30 PRELIMINARY HEARING

Disposition Date: 12/17/02
PLED NOLO; WAIVED TIME, SENTENCED

 B12 HON. ROBERT A GLUSMAN; JUDGE
11/19/02 09:30 PRELIMINARY HEARING

Disposition Date: 11/19/02
CONTINUED TO 12/17/02

 B12 HON. ROBERT A GLUSMAN; JUDGE
10/15/02 14:01 PRELIMINARY HEARING

Disposition Date: 10/15/02
CONTINUED TO 11/19/02

 B12 HON. ROBERT A GLUSMAN; JUDGE
10/08/02 09:30 PRELIMINARY HEARING

Disposition Date: 10/08/02
OFF-CAL.; CAL. ON THIS DATE IN ERROR

 B12 HON. ROBERT A GLUSMAN; JUDGE
09/10/02 09:30 PRELIMINARY HEARING

Disposition Date: 09/10/02
CONTINUED FOR SAME EVENT

 BL1 HON. WILLIAM LAMB; ASSIGNED JUDGE
08/13/02 09:30 PRELIMINARY HEARING

Disposition Date: 08/13/02
CONTINUED TO 9/10/02

 BL1 HON. WILLIAM LAMB; ASSIGNED JUDGE
07/23/02 09:30 FUR ARRAIGNMT -ENTRY OF PLEA, APP OF CSL

Disposition Date: 07/23/02
ARRAIGNED; PD APPTD PLED N/G

 BL1 HON. WILLIAM LAMB; ASSIGNED JUDGE
07/02/02 09:30 ARRAIGNMENT
  290(a)(1)(A)PC 23152(a)CVC 23152(b)CVC

Disposition Date: 07/02/02
ARRAIGNED TO RETAIN COUNSEL

 BL1 HON. WILLIAM LAMB; ASSIGNED JUDGE

Case Information  Case Number: NCR70659
Case Title: PEOPLE vs. GOMES, JEFF CARL 
Case Type: CRIMINAL
Filing Date: 03/19/96
Disposition Date: 12/03/98
 ALL CHARGES DISMISSED



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Parties  Name Type Attorney
GOMES, JEFF CARL  DEFENDANT  VANDERVOORT, J JOSEPH 
   In Custody? Y/N: N   Status: 
 AKA - ALSO KNOWN AS: LAWLESS, JEFF 
   Charges   Count Filing Document Degree Charge 
 01 COM Misdemeanor (A) 242    PC BATTERY 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 12/03/98
   DISMISSED 
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 02 COM Misdemeanor (A) 1320(a)-042496    PC FAILURE TO APPEAR - RELEASED ON O/R 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 12/03/98
   DISMISSED 
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 03 COM Misdemeanor (A) 853.7--7/14/98    PC FAILURE TO APPEAR ON A CITATION 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 12/03/98
   DISMISSED 
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
Warrants   Issue Date Bail Amount Disposition Date Disposition Description
 04/24/96 $5,000.00      06/28/98 WARRANT SERVED
 07/15/98 $8,000.00      09/24/98 WARRANT RECALLED




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Actions  Date Action Description
09/25/98 WARRANT RETURNED & FILED

 
09/24/98 ARREST WARRANT RECALLED

 
07/15/98 WARRANT ISSUED TO CPD
  COMMISSIONER SCOTT

 
07/14/98 COMPLAINT FILED IN MUNI CT BY CLERK
  853.7 PC

 
06/29/98 WARRANT RETURNED & FILED

 
06/28/98 O/R AGREEMENT SIGNED BY DEFT

 
10/06/96 CONVERTED FROM CHICO COURT SYSTEM

 



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Events  Date Time Event Description Dept Code Department/Judge
12/03/98 13:30 ENTRY OF PLEA

Disposition Date: 12/03/98
DISMISSED

 CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
10/22/98 13:00 ARRAIGNMENT ON FTA / ENTRY OF PLEA
  UNDERLYING & TWO FTAs
  ** DEFT ORDERED PERSONALLY PRESENT **

Disposition Date: 10/22/98
CONT FOR EPO/DISPO

 CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
09/24/98 13:20 ARRAIGNMENT ON FTA (NON VOP)
  UNDERLYING AND 2 FTA'S

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
HELD; CONT FOR SAME

 CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
07/14/98 08:30 ARRAIGNMENT ON FTA (NON VOP)

Disposition Date: 07/14/98
B/W ORDERED ISSUED; 853.7 PC; $8000

 C06 HON DARRELL STEVENS; JUDGE
04/29/96 08:00 JURY TRIAL - MUNI CT CR/TRF (CNV)
  242 PC ATTY: KING

Disposition Date: 04/29/96
CONVERSION DISP

 N2 
04/24/96 10:00 TRIAL READINESS (CNV)
  242 PC ATTY: KING

Disposition Date: 04/24/96
CONVERSION DISP

 NCR 
04/10/96 10:00 ENTRY OF PLEA (CNV)
  242 PC

Disposition Date: 04/10/96
CONVERSION DISP

 NCR 
03/19/96 08:30 FIRST APPEARANCE
  KING

Disposition Date: 10/06/96
CONVERSION DISP
 

Case Information  Case Number: NT016910
Case Title: PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, JEFFREY 
Case Type: REGISTRATION
Filing Date: 09/30/97
Disposition Date: 07/24/98
 BAIL PAID/FORFEIT AFTER FTA - CONV



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Parties  Name Type Attorney
LAWLESS, JEFFREY  DEFENDANT   
   Charges   Count Filing Document Degree Charge 
 01 CIT Infraction (T) 4000(a)    CVC REGISTRATION REQUIRED 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 07/24/98
   BAIL PAID/FORFEITED (CONVICTION) 
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 02 CIT Infraction (T) 26708(a)    CVC RESTRICTED VIEW - SIGN, STICKERS, ETC. 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 07/24/98
   BAIL PAID/FORFEITED (CONVICTION) 
  Sentence: 
   
   
   



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Actions  Date Action Description
06/29/98 RELEASE TO DMV - FTA (DE2)
  PIF GCSV/ALHAMBRA 5-28-98 CK

 
04/01/98 ABST TO DMV - FTA (DE5) LICENSE HOLD

 



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Events  Date Time Event Description Dept Code Department/Judge
10/29/97 08:00 TRAFFIC ARRAIGNMENT - APPEAR/POST BAIL
  BAIL + FTA AMT = $389 AS OF 11/26/97

Disposition Date: 03/26/98
REFERRED TO GC SERVICES

 NTR CHICO TRAFFIC ARRAIGNMENT DEPT

Case Information  Case Number: NCR79526
Case Title: PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, JEFFREY CARL 
Case Type: D.U.I.
Filing Date: 06/29/98
Disposition Date: 12/03/98
 CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO & SENTENCED



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Parties  Name Type Attorney
LAWLESS, JEFFREY CARL  DEFENDANT  VANDERVOORT, J JOSEPH 
   Charges   Count Filing Document Degree Charge 
 00  Misdemeanor (A) 1214.1(a)    PC CIVIL ASSESSMENTS 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 
     
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 00 CIT  ASF     ADMIN SCREENING FEE 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 
     
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 00 CIT Misdemeanor (A) 1202.4    PC RESTITUTION FINE 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 
     
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 01 CIT Misdemeanor (C) 23152(a)    CVC DRIVING UNDER INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL/DRUGS 

  Plea: NG
  Plea Date: 08/04/98
  Disposition: 12/03/98
   CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO 
  Sentence: 12/03/98
   SUMMARY PROBN 36 MO;48 HRS BCJ-REPORT
   1-8-99 8PM;$1248+$100+$24+$35 IN MONTHLY
   PMTS OF $75;LEVEL I DUI SCHOOL
 02 CIT Infraction (T) 16028)(a)    CVC NO INSURANCE 

  Plea: NG
  Plea Date: 08/04/98
  Disposition: 12/03/98
   DISMISSED 
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 03 CIT Infraction (T) 21657    CVC ONE-WAY TRAFFIC AND OFF-CENTER LANES 

  Plea: NG
  Plea Date: 08/04/98
  Disposition: 12/03/98
   DISMISSED 
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 04 CIT Infraction (T) 14601.1(a)    CVC DRIVING WHILE SUSPENDED OR REVOKED 

  Plea: NG
  Plea Date: 08/04/98
  Disposition: 12/03/98
   DISMISSED 
  Sentence: 
   
   
   



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Actions  Date Action Description
03/07/00 ABST TO DMV - FTP (DE3) LICENSE SUSPENDED

 
02/14/00 NTC: CIVIL ASSESSMENT ADDED-NO ADDRESS
  $1433

 
01/13/00 NTC: TICKLER: 10-DAY NOTICE
  $750 APRIL-JAN'00 PMTS

 
01/06/00 NTC: TICKLER: 10-DAY NOTICE
  $750 APRIL-JAN'00 PMTS

 
01/26/99 ABST TO DMV - CONVICTION (DE1)

 
09/08/98 MOTION TO WITHDRAW AS ATTORNEY OF RECORD

 
08/04/98 WAIVER OF DEFT'S PERSONAL PRESENCE 977 PC

 
08/04/98 STIPULATION FOR COMMISSIONER TO SIT AS
  JUDGE PRO TEM

 
06/29/98 CITATION FILED BY CPD 98-4576 OFFICER 1295

 
06/29/98 O/R AGREEMENT SIGNED BY DEFT

 



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Events  Date Time Event Description Dept Code Department/Judge
12/03/98 13:30 DISPOSITION SETTING

Disposition Date: 12/03/98
PLED NOLO; WAIVED TIME, SENTENCED

 CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
10/22/98 13:00 DISPOSITION/SETTING
  DEFT ORDERED PERSONALLY PRESENT

Disposition Date: 10/22/98
CONT FOR DISPO SET

 CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
09/28/98 08:00 JURY TRIAL - MUNI CT CRIM/TRAFFIC

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
VACATED

 C11 HON WILLIAM O SCOTT; COMMISSIONER
09/24/98 13:00 TRIAL READINESS
  AND MOTION TO W/DRAW AS ATTY OF RECORD
  JT SET FOR 9-28-98

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
TRIAL DATE VACATED; CONT FOR SETTING

 CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
09/24/98 00:00 MTN: TO WITHDRAW AS ATTORNEY OF RECORD

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
WITHDRAWN

 CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
08/27/98 10:00 PRETRIAL CONFERENCE

Disposition Date: 08/27/98
TRIAL DATE SET

 C06 HON DARRELL STEVENS; JUDGE
08/04/98 08:30 ARRAIGNMENT

Disposition Date: 08/04/98
PLED NOT GLTY BY ATTY;T/W;SET FOR P/T

 C06 HON DARRELL STEVENS; JUDGE

Case Information Case Number: ST041261
Case Title: PEOPLE VS LAWLESS JR, GARY DUAN
Case Type: RUNNING STOP LIGHT/SIGN
Filing Date: 12/27/01
Disposition Date: 04/05/02
 CONVICTED ON PLEA OF GUILTY



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Parties Name Type Attorney
LAWLESS, GARY DUANE JR  DEFENDANT   
   Charges  Count Filing Document Degree Charge 
 1 CIT Infraction (T) 21802(b)    CVC VIOLATION OF RIGHT-OF-WAY - ENTERING 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 
     
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 2 CIT  YES-TVS     ELIGIBLE FOR TRAFFIC SCHOOL 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 
     
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 3 COM Misdemeanor (D) 40508(a)    CVC FTA ON SIGNED TRAFFIC CITATION (MCW05) 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 
     
  Sentence: 
   
   
   



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Actions Date Action Description
04/05/02 RELEASE TO DMV - FAILURE TO APPEAR (DE2)

 
04/05/02 ABSTRACT TO DMV - CONVICTION (DE1)

 
03/28/02 ABSTRACT TO DMV - FTA (DE5) LICENSE HOLD

 



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Events Date Time Event Description Dept Code Department/Judge
02/04/02 08:00 TRAFFIC ARRAIGNMENT
  BAIL + FTA AMT = $341 AS OF 02/18/02
  TOTAL TVS FEES $154; CERT DUE 06/10/02

Disposition Date: 04/05/02
CONVICTED ON PLEA OF GUILTY

 STR WILLOWS TRAFFIC COURT - 1ST ARRAIGNMENT

They do look alike.  Wish we could blow up the facebook pic to get a better look.

hi all, I am new here, have not even read here, but I will try to jump in here and help work on this.

I have more info to post also. 

all the above info I will summarize here really quick for those who do not wish to scroll through all the docs above.

basically this is what is going on here.


mother of timothy john lawless maiden name is Tieken. Her mothers maiden name is forman(timothy's grandmother)

his mother had the 3 boys, timothy, Gary and Jeffrey/jeffery ( in that order ) all last name lawless on the birth records.
then she married Gary D lawless after they were all born. she married gary D lawless using the name Marylin e tieken and also married him using the name marylin e short, on the same day. she divorced him a month later. 5 yrs late she marries manuel gomes.

these boys are using the name of lawless and gomes. being she married both men after they were born, I am not sure if gary d lawless is their father ( although the docs have his last name for them), and they were married ONLY one month. they could have lived together all those years before being married though. so it is hard to say if gary d lawless is even their father. And then they start using the name of Gomes after that.

timothy was born in glenn county cali, north of sacrment a ways, then the other two boys are born in Napa later.  she marries Gary D lawless in Napa.  A month later they divorce.  then 5 years later she marries manuel gomes.  Later I find them in butte county (above sacramento a ways)  this is where all of the arrests docs are coming from.  There are no dates of birth on the arrest records, so I don't know if the Gary D lawless in Butte county jail for failure to register as a sex offender is The father/x husband of marylin, or if this is the son Gary Duane Lawless JR.  whoever it is, they are not in megan register.  So did he move out of state?  or die?  but the son Gary Duane Lawless then shows up in Manton, ca farther north, and in redding, far north cali.  so does the mother and the son jeffrey carl lawless who usually uses the Gomes name.  The mother, gary, jeff, timothy are all on deeds in the manton area, or in redding.  Still no birthdates on any docs up there so still don't know if this is the father gary d lawless or if this is the son Gary D lawless. 

I have a current address of either the father or the son, again, no birthdate so can't tell which one it is, but whoever it is, they are not in megans, so must be the one who is NOT the sex offender? So where is the other one? . 

I have a listing for indiana for someone in the family, but don't know yet which one. 

I also find the grandmother, mother of marylin in redding. 

Now clifford lane lawless was a pastor in redding at the beacon church at one time. 

he is also listed as the president on a lawless roof biz

there is also a Lawless roofing in redding under another lawless that I have not been able to connect clifford lane lawless line to...yet. 

but timothy and his family is well established in Manton and Redding.  Manton is a tiny little town that use to have about 300 people in it.  a few years back it burned to the ground so now it has even less people in it... anyone there probably knows all about these people.  I am working on getting some info from someone in the area.

this is a pretty wild family... alcohol, drugs, lots of warrants, and the mother 70 years old is charged with battery.  LOL

so that is a little run-down on the family

I can blow those two pics up for you if you like.  Is it okay to post them on here?

Doubledecker-

Welcome to Scared Monkeys, I see you have already pulled up a vine.
Great Job.

B

I have the clifford lane lawless line, where do you want me to post that?

 ::cartwheel::  WELCOME DOUBLEDECKER   ::cartwheel::

I posted some additional court records on Gary JR.

Please take a look at http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinion/columnists/36053144.html

The picture after About Gary Lawless. He has an uncanny resemblance to Timothy Lawless.  What do you think?

well I don't know yet about the pic but clifford lane lawless family comes down out of canada.  but there are so many Lawless people I will have to pull up docs to figure who is who. 

were those other arrests you posted out of the butte county?  I had more but did not post them.  if those are out of butte county then you probably got the rest of them on there.

Doubledecker-
here is fine. This way we can keep the general thread clean, and just carry over any notable work product as it develops.

Another Canada connection Northern Rose? Yes, he strongly resembles TL

Does this help at all:

LAWLESS, GARY D
LAWLESS, GARY
LAWLESS, GARYE D
LAWLESS, GARYE(DOB: 04/1966) (Age: 43)    

32288 ROCK CREEK RD
MANTON, CA 96059-8606
TEHAMA COUNTY
(12/1992-Current)    Most Recent Telephone Listing 530-Edit no phone numbers please  LAWLESS GARY (12/1992-Current)

32288 ROCK CREEK RD
SHINGLETOWN, CA 96088
SHASTA COUNTY
(11/2008-Current)    530-Edit-No phone numbers pleaseLAWLESS GARY(Current Listing Name)

1914 SCOTT AVE
CORNING, CA 96021-2825
TEHAMA COUNTY
(07/1989-07/2005)    

7446 TRUCKEE RD
CORNING, CA 96021
TEHAMA COUNTY
(05/1998-06/1998)    

PO BOX 273
CORNING, CA 96021-0273
TEHAMA COUNTY
(09/1995-05/1998)    

2446 TRUCKEE AVE
GERBER, CA 96035
TEHAMA COUNTY
(11/1997-11/1997)

I'll just post the clifford lane lawless lines here, and if they need to go elsewhere I guess someone can move them.  I just don't want to clutter up the threads by putting the wrong info in  the wrong place


or should I start a thread for that line?  I don't know how you guys do things around here

Yes they were out of Butte.

Welcome DoubleDecker!  Glad to have you.  It looks to me like you come with ENERGY!  ::MonkeyDance:: 

Tehama
Case Number:  NT112206 
Case Title:  PEOPLE  VS.  LAWLESS JR., GARY DUA 
Case Description:  SEATBELTS VIEW CHARGES 
Filing Date:  12/28/1994 
Disposition Description:  BAIL PAID/FORFEITED; CONVICTION 
Disposition Date:  01/23/1995 
 
PARTIES
Party Name Relationship Attorney Name
 
LAWLESS, GARY DUANE JR.  DEFENDANT  N/A 
 
 
EVENTS
Date Time Description Disposition
 
02/06/1995  8:30AM  TRAFFIC ARRAIGNMENT  BAIL INCREASED TO $240.00 02/06/95  BAIL PAID & FORFEITED 
 
 
ACTIONS
Date Description
 
12/28/1994  TRAFFIC CITATION FILED - #WU74473 ISSUED BY: CHP OFFICER: 7347 
 
02/08/1995  CONVICTION ABSTRACT TO DMV (MC-DE1) 
 
10/22/2008  CASE SELECTED FOR FILE DESTRUCTION (MCD49) 
 

Tehama

Case Number:  FL48937 
Case Title:  TEHAMA COUNTY  VS.  LAWLESS 
Case Description:  DA SUPPORT 
Filing Date:  05/29/2001 
Disposition Description:  DEFAULT JMT BY COURT 
Disposition Date:  10/04/2001 
 
PARTIES
Party Name Relationship Attorney Name
 
TEHAMA COUNTY  PETITIONER  TEHAMA COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY 
 
LAWLESS, GARY DUANE JR.  RESPONDENT  N/A 
 
 
EVENTS
Date Time Description Disposition
 
No Events were found for Case Number: FL48937.
 
ACTIONS
Date Description
 
05/29/2001  COMPLAINT FILED, SUMMONS ISSUED 
 
06/08/2001  PROOF OF MAILING 
 
08/14/2001  PROOF OF SERVICE 
 
10/03/2001  REQUEST TO ENTER DEFAULT & CLERK'S ENTRY OF DEFAULT JMT 
 
10/03/2001  DECLARATION FOR DEFAULT OR UNCONTESTED JUDGMENT (DAFS) 
 
10/04/2001  JUDGMENT ENTERED & NOTICES MAILED (FL) BOOK:191 PAGE:200 
 
10/17/2001  PROOF OF MAILING 
 
10/29/2001  NOTICE OF ENTRY OF JUDGMENT AND CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE BY MAIL 
 

I have two more phone numbers other than the ones you post.  ,

these are both the son according to the birthdate
seems yours are for the son also

the shingletown and the manton listings are showing the same street address
manton and shingletown do run right into one another so I think it is safe to assume
those are for the same property/house.  so if that is the son
we have lost the father gary d lawless somewhere.  hmmm

so the question still is... is the gary d lawless in butte county as a sex offender, the son or the father?

is the father dead? or maybe in prison? for life? or something? or out of state. 

if we find the father gary d lawless, then we can figure out who his father is and determine if he is a cousin or whatever to melissa's line.

let me post melissa's line

GARY D LAWLESS
Born  Apr 1966   
03/2006
(626) Edit-No phone numbers please


GARY D LAWLESS Born  Apr 1966     
 03/2006
(626) Edit-No phone numbers please

Hi DD - I just wanted to say Hi and Welcome to the forum and also complement you on all your investigative work on the Huckaby/Tim Lawless connection!

these are listed with the above numbers I just posted

MONROVIA, CA
SAN PEDRO, CA
EVERGREEN PARK, IL
ITHACA, NY
LONG BEACH, CA   Possible Relatives:
 
(626) Edit-No phone numbers please

BRENNAN, LAWLESS MARY (Age 53)
LAWLESS, MARY (Age 53)
 

MONROVIA, CA
SOLANA BEACH, CA
ARCADIA, CA

relatives   
 
LAWLESS, RONALD TR (Age 108)
LAWLESS, TODD ALFRED (Age 37)



(626) Edit-No phone numbers please/b]

DUARTE, CA
LOS ANGELES, CA

I don't know if you are familiar with the area, so let me give you a little background info..


manton is tehema county
shingleton is shasta county (as is redding)

now is strange they have the same street address in manton as in shingletown being it is two different counties, but these are tiny tiny mountain towns and they do this kind of stuff, so don't let that throw you off, when looking up shasta county or tehema county, they will be in both.  the deeds are all over in shasta county I have them all will post them.

the rock creek address listed in manton and shingletown

also shows that this person has address in
notice the indiana address in Borden, I have not looked there yet

32288 ROCK CREEK MANTON, CA
MANTON, CA
CORNING, CA
REDDING, CA
BORDEN, IN

Possible Relatives:

GOMES, TIMOTHY J (Age 44)
SCHUTZENHOFER, CYNTHIA MARIE (Age 39)
LAWLESS DOLAN, VICTORIA R (Age 39)
GOMES, BURNHAM
GOMES, MARYLIN E (Age 71) mother
LAWLESS, SAMANTHA TO (Age 48)
LAWLESS, LOWELL
LAWLESS, LAWLESS G
GOMES, JEFFERY C (Age 41) brother

Maybe this is him.  His SS# is listed as having a Washington state of issue.  I also note that MH has been known to use the name Lawlers:

LAWLESS, GARY
LAWLERS, GARY
(DOB: 09/1919) (Age: 89)    

5460 BANCROFT AVE APT 306
OAKLAND, CA 94601-5842
ALAMEDA COUNTY
(07/2004-Current)    

3727 41ST AVE APT D
SACRAMENTO, CA 95824-2536
SACRAMENTO COUNTY
(07/2000-10/2004)    

3728 73RD
OAKLAND, CA 94605
ALAMEDA COUNTY
(11/2000-11/2000)    

4529 BROOKFIELD DR
SACRAMENTO, CA 95823-3749
SACRAMENTO COUNTY
(03/2000-10/2000)    

1911 N 5TH AVE APT 5
PASCO, WA 99301-3693
FRANKLIN COUNTY
(01/1988-12/1991)    

9506 BIRCH ST APT 4
OAKLAND, CA 94603-1653
ALAMEDA COUNTY
(01/1983-04/1985)    

2738 73RD AVE APT
OAKLAND, CA 94605-2846
ALAMEDA COUNTY

other people and places connected to the rock creek address and that gary d lawless are

RANCHO CORDOVA, CA
SACRAMENTO, CA
CORNING, CA
SAINT ANN, MO
ANTELOPE, CA
NOVATO, CA
MANTON, CA
CHICO, CA
SAINT LOUIS, MO
SAN FRANCISCO FPO, CA
BRIDGETON, MO

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, GARY DUANE (Age 43) brother
SCHUTZENHOFER, CYNTHIA MARIE (Age 39)
GOMES, BURNHAM
GOMES, MARYLIN E (Age 71) mother
GOMES, GARY D
NEASBITT, CHONA JEAN (Age 35)
GOMES, JEFFERY C (Age 41) brother
LAWLESS, CHONA J (Age 35)
LAWLESS, GARY E

Possible Roommates / Associates:

DAVIS, TIMOTHY
((edit - old roommate not involved))



MANTON, CA
ROCHESTER, WA

Possible Relatives:

GOMES, TIMOTHY J (Age 44) timother john lawless
GOMES, MARYLIN E (Age 71) mother





MANTON, CA
MARYSVILLE, CA

Possible Relatives:

ROCK, JAMES J (Age 79)





MANTON, CA
BOULDER CREEK, CA





MANTON, CA

Possible Relatives:

GOMES, TIMOTHY J (Age 44) timother john lawless

these are all connected to timothy and the debina way address

notice the SPANAWAY Washington.

remember the people on the video at the clarkston church in washington, their name is johnson, they said they were worried about their safety over this, which was weird, but they are in spanaway,


there is also a duane ministries listed with them up there in spanaway I have not had time to track yet, but will.  he is also in clarkston and lewiston
gary d lawless' middle name is duane. I am wondering if this might be connected to this line?

still looking.


TIMOTHY J LAWLESS
3532 DEBINA WAY
RANCHO CORDOVA, CA 95670

same biz
3532 DEBINA RANCHO CORDOVA, CA

SPANAWAY, WA
EATONVILLE, WA
RANCHO CORDOVA, CA
TACOMA, WA

Possible Relatives:

MINER, MAX E (Age 75)
MINER, VUDY (Age 62)


Possible Employment / Business Associations:

VENDORCONX INC
NEXT OPPORTUNITY, INC
VENDORCONNECTS, INC
RANCHO CORDOVA, CA
SACRAMENTO, CA

Possible Relatives:

NEASBITT, CHONA JEAN (Age 35)
LAWLESS, CHONA J (Age 35)


RANCHO CORDOVA, CA
SACRAMENTO, CA

Possible Relatives:

GOMES, TIMOTHY J (Age 44)
LAWLESS, TIMOTHY J (Age 44)



these lawless names are also in spanaway washington.

one of them has the same name of Duane as does gary duane lawless brother to the RIGHT timothy J Lawless


LAWLESS, DUANE T (Age 55)

Possible Employment / Business Associations:


DUANE LAWLESS MINISTRYS
TACOMA, WA the right timothy also is listed with this town too
BELLEVUE, WA
UNIVERSITY PLACE, WA
PORTLAND, OR
SPANAWAY, WA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, AYREEN S (Age 38)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

MASTERSON, JAMES J (Age 67)
LOVELY, HENRY (Age 58)
LOVELY, ROBERTA A (Age 55)
GALLATY, TIMOTHY B (Age 46)
WILLIAMS, ALICE P P (Age 70)
QUINONES, NELSON A (Age 43)
BADGUIO, ALEXANDER L (Age 57)
GARCIA, D





. LAWLESS, MICHAEL EDWARD (Age 55)

Associated names:

LAWLESS, MELVIN E

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

GRM INVESTMENTS, INC
PUYALLUP, WA
SEQUIM, WA
PORT ANGELES, WA
SPANAWAY, WA
Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, EDWARD M
LAWLESS, KYNA MARIE (Age 28)
LAWLESS, YVONNE (Age 52)
LAWLESS, MIKE PAM
LAWLESS, PAMELA GAYLE (Age 51)





LAWLESS, PAMELA GAYLE (Age 51)

Associated names:

WHITNEY, PAM G

SEQUIM, WA
PORT ANGELES, WA
PUYALLUP, WA
SPANAWAY, WA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, MICHAEL EDWARD (Age 55)
LAWLESS, EDWARD M



LAWLESS, MIKE PAM
LAWLESS, KYNA MARIE (Age 28)

hmm now this is interesting because if you look at the butte county arrest for not registering as a sex offender for gary d lawless ...there is a note on those court docs that says the defendent MIGHT BE IN ALAMENDA COUNTY JAIL..

here we see this gary lawless above has alameda county addresses...we need to check all these out

I know the father gary d lawless was born about 1933... that would make him approx.  76,

a lot of these data bases have the ages messed up a lot of times. 

lets try to check the gary at these addresses out. 

I can only find one Gary D Lawless in the death Index and the birth year is off



Name     Birth   Death    Last Residence   Last Benefit    SSN   Issued
   
GARY W LAWLESS    02 Dec 1946   26 Sep 2006 (V)   40217 (Louisville, Jefferson, KY)   (none specified)   Edit-remove ss#   Kentucky

GARY D LAWLESS    30 Dec 1947   18 Apr 1989   75639 (De Berry, Panola, TX)   (none specified)   Edit-remove ss#   Texas   

GARY W LAWLESS    24 Jul 1942   26 Feb 1995   (not specified)   (none specified)   Edit-remove ss#   Missouri   

5460 BANCROFT
oakland,
not showing him listed there but there are a bunch of harris and williams names



okay gary lawless showing up with katherine lawless at this one
I have her name somewhere, will find it

3727 41ST AVE
sacramento ca
Possible Employment / Business Associations:

 KATHERINE DO Offices and Clinics of Chiropractors
  OAKLAND, CA
HAYWARD, CA
SACRAMENTO, CA

Possible Relatives:

ROBINSON, ROSE (Age 78)
ROBINSON, SANDRANNA L (Age 38)
LAWLESS, KATHERINE M (Age 52)
ROBINSON, CARLOS S (Age 40)
LAWLESS, JERMAINE A (Age 27)
ROBINSON, SHADEEB O
ROBINSONSETZER, CARLOS (Age 40)
LAWLESS, GARY
ROBINSON, J 


ANTIOCH, CA
PITTSBURG, CA
HAYWARD, CA
OAKLAND, CA
SACRAMENTO, CA

 Possible Relatives:

ROBINSON, KATHERINE M (Age 36)
LAWLESS, KATHERINE M (Age 52)
LAWLESS, GARY

Possible Roommates / Associates:

HALL, HESTER HAMPTON (Age 51)
HAMPTON, ROBERT LEE (Age 51)



9506 BIRCH OAKLAND, CA


not finding him here, but more harris and williams here




well we know if all these addresses are the same gary lawless then we are looking for THIS one with katherine and jermaine lawless.  so I will look that up

yes I had found that one also, but he is too young, so can't be the father. 
but sometimes they are not listed in the ss index, rarely they aren't but I have seen them now. 

this is the katherine lawless/robinson with gary lawless in oakland and sacramento above with jermaine. 

LAWLESS, KATHERINE M (Age 52)

Associated names:

 KATHERINE, R
 LAWLESS, GARY
  SACRAMENTO, CA
UNION CITY, CA

Possible Relatives:

ROBINSON, KATHERINE M (Age 36)
LAWLESS, JERMAINE A (Age 27)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

WATSON, OTIS L (Age 57)
HOWARD, ETHEL H (Age 78)






  ROBINSON, KATHERINE M (Age 36)

Associated names:

 KATHERINE,  LAWLE
 LAWLESS, KATHERINE M

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

 KATHERINE DO Offices and Clinics of Chiropractors
OAKLAND, CA
HAYWARD, CA
SACRAMENTO, CA

Possible Relatives:

ROBINSON, ROSE (Age 78)
ROBINSON, SANDRANNA L (Age 38)
LAWLESS, KATHERINE M (Age 52)
ROBINSON, CARLOS S (Age 40)
LAWLESS, JERMAINE A (Age 27)
ROBINSON, SHADEEB O
ROBINSON SETZER, CARLOS (Age 40)
LAWLESS, GARY
ROBINSON, J
 

Tehama County Records

document not available

Document Number   Z0257567
Instrument_Number   004317
InstrumentType   JUDGMENT
Recording_Date   03/31/1998
Grantor   LAWLESS, GARY DUANE
Grantee   SHASTA COUNTY OF
Book   1780
Page   0047
NumberOfPages   

document not available


Document Number   Z0315026
Instrument_Number   006938
InstrumentType   ABSTRACT OF JUDGMENT
Recording_Date   03/30/2006
Grantor   LAWLESS, GARY D JR
Grantee   SHASTA COUNTY OF
Book   
Page   
NumberOfPages   


.....and not sure if this is related.....


document not available


Document Number   Z0175288
Instrument_Number   000556
InstrumentType   DEED
Recording_Date   01/12/1999
Grantor   WILD HORSE PROPERTIES #1 L L
WILD HORSE PROPERTIES #1 L L C
Grantee   LAWLESS, DONALD THOMAS
LAWLESS, MARLENE
Book   1843
Page   0467
NumberOfPages   

Earlier today we talked about an SO in Maine, named Timothy R Lawless, aged 26.


Timothy R Lawless
Date of Birth: 07/18/1983

Residence: Calais ME, 04619

Address last verified on: 01/28/2009

SORA #: 5741  
Convictions
Statute: 17-A MRSA (283)(1)(A)
Offense: Dissemination of sexually explicit material
Statutory Description: Intentionally or knowingly disseminate or possess with intent to disseminate any book, magazine, newspaper, print, negative, slide, motion picture, videotape, computer data file or other mechanically, electronically or chemically reproduced visual image or material that depicts any minor who the person knows or has reason to know is a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct.
Case #: CR-07-136
Court: Superior Court Machias
Statute: 17-A MRSA (284)(1)(A)
Offense: Possess sexually explicit material
Statutory Description: Intentionally or knowingly possess sexually explicit material which depicts another person engaging in sexually explicit conduct, and the other person has not in fact attained 16 years of age or the person knows or has reason to know that the other person has not attained 16 years of age.
Case #: CR-07-136
Court: Superior Court Machias
Statute: 17-A MRSA (283)(1)(C)
Offense: Dissemination of sexually explicit material
Statutory Description: Intentionally or knowingly disseminate or possess with intent to disseminate any book, magazine, newspaper, print, negative, slide, motion picture, videotape, computer data file or other mechanically, electronically or chemically reproduced visual image or material that depicts any minor who is less than 12 years of age who the person knows or has reason to know is a minor less than 12 years of age engaging in sexually explicit conduct.
Case #: CR-07-136
Court: Superior Court Machias
Statute: 17-A MRSA (284)(1)(C)
Offense: Possess sexual explicit material of minor under 12
Statutory Description: Intentionally or knowingly possess sexually explicit material which depicts another person engaging in sexually explicit conduct, and the other person has not in fact attained 12 years of age or the person knows or has reason to know that the other person has not attained 12 years of age.
Case #: CR-07-136
Court: Superior Court Machias




Is this Gramps?
Gordon Lester Lawless SR
Date of Birth: 11/19/1924

Residence: Presque isle ME, 04769

Address last verified on: 02/13/2009

SORA #: 5115  
Out of State Sentencing
Statute: Second Degree Child Molestation
Court: Rhode Island
Docket #: W2-2002-0366A
Statute: Second Degree Child Molestation
Court: Rhode Island
Docket #: W2-2002-0366A
Statute: Second Degree Child Molestation
Court: Rhode Island
Docket #: W2-2002-0366A
Statute: Second Degree Child Molestation
Court: Rhode Island
Docket #: W2-2002-0366A

Do they fit anywhere? Before you freak out about the physical similarities between Timothy R and Timothy J Lawless, right now there is nothing more than their names to tie then, thus why I throw it out. If you click on the above link, and it does not return "live data" just search Lawless, Timothy R
 

I have looked for the father gary d lawless for 2 days.  I have went through marriages, divorces, court docs, land deeds, phone, city directories, news archives etc.  still no him.

here is what I am thinking. 

the mother divorced him in napa ... 5 yrs later she marries gomes, then we find her and the boys in butte county, tehema county, and shasta county and they are still up there in redding area... shasta/tehema/manton etc and redding. 

I think the father got left back in the bay area.  so where did he go.

if he is the sex offender in butte county did he move out of state, as he is not in megans? or is that the son who is now in shingletown / manton, who is not on the megans either hmmmm

now if the father left state, he would have to register in the other state and not be in megans... so where did he go..

being the butte county court doc for the sex offender stated they might be in the alameda jail, maybe he was and was still over there in the bay area, but picked up a charge in butte?  but what was he doing over there with the x wife?  did the kids go over to butte where he was, and then the mother go over there too... was the gary d lawless the mother and jeff the son committ battery on the x husband gary? or was it the son gary?  we find all of them up in manton on the same land deeds... and we find the son gary up there.  so where is the father.. back in alameda bay area?  so did he leave there and go out of state so he is not on megans

that is my guess.  he is out of state... but where.  in washington?

now what if he is under his middle name?  is it duane? the same as his son's? 

could he be in washington up around spanaway under his middle name of duane?
just a guess. 

let me go looking

all the ones in tehema and shasta county are the right family, but the gary d lawless on them are the SON.  there are tons of deeds on them too.  the mother and the 3 boys and the wives of the boys and the grandmother, mother of marylin who is the boys mom. 

but I can't find the father gary d lawless up there.  he is just gone.  he is not showing up dead.  I am thinking he is under another name, perhaps the middle name of D which might be duane as his sons middle name is duane. 

let me get melissa/clifford lane lawless line on here so everyone has those names to compare and cross-reference. 

George W. Lawless (Father of Clifford Lane Lawless)
born - date unknown, North Dakota
death - November 11, 1969

His Parents born: Unknown, USA

George W. Lawless married: 1st wife

Jesse G. Dicus (Mother of Clifford Lane Lawless)
born - about 1907 Washington
death -
Her Parents Born: Father, Iowa / Mother Canada(English)
Her parents: Father Alfred Dicus; Mother Sarah/aka Sallie/aka Sadie
Parents of Alfred Dicus: Father, Ohio / Mother, Iowa
Parents of Sarah: both from Canada/English
Alfred Dicus
Born -12 Mar 1876
Death - Feb 1972 (Brewster, Okanogan, WA 98812 )
Sadie Dicus
Born - 28 Feb 1882
Death - Apr 1966 98846 (Pateros, Okanogan, WA)


George W. Lawless married: 2nd wife November 24, 1955 Brewster WA

Esther Luretta Lawless
born - October 23, 1897; Rome, Wisconsin
death - Jan 1983 (Brewster, Okanogan, WA 98812)
Her Parents Born: unknown

_______________________________
Jesse G. Dicus (Mother of Clifford Lane Lawless)
marred: 2nd husband
Unknown - AKA "Lucky Louie"
born-
death -

_________________________

Children of George W. Lawless and Jessie G. Dicus

son: Paul George Lawless
born - Jan 24, 1927
death - Mar 26, 1997

married: 1st Wife

born -
death -



son: Clifford Lane Lawless
born -
death - Living

married: 1st Wife July 9, 1960; Modesto Ca
Connie L Harris
born -
death - Living
Her Parents: A. A. Harris & Irene Harris

____________________________

Children of Clifford Lane Lawless & Connie L. Harris:

Brian Lawless
born -
death - Living

Brett Lawless
born -
death - Living

Joni Lawless
born -
death - Living
married Hughes

___________________________
Children of Brian Lawless & Judy A ?

Melissa Chantel Lawless
born -
death - Living

married 1st Husband Johnny Huckaby


Adam B Lawless 23

Celeb J Lawless 21

Julianne Lawless

more information on Clifford Lane Lawless

living in San Jose at least from Sept 1976 - Sept 1979
Quad-City Herald Sept 9, 1976
Lane Lawless of San Jose, California, was here last week visiting Esther Lawless

Quad-City Herald Sept 6, 1979
Mr. and Mrs. Lane Lawless, Brian, Brett and Joni of San Jose, California, have been visiting Eshter Lawless.
They took a trip up the Nethow for a few days, and celebrated Lane's birthday with the Ted Huckabee family.



graduated from Brewster HS in 1950

Was on debate team at brewster High School
Quad-City Herald - Feb 7, 1980

Religious Background Information

clifford lane lawless studied under A. A. Harris

clifford's wife Connie is the daughter of A. A. and Irene Harris.

clifford and wife connie were married by A. A. Harris in Modesto Ca on July 9, 1960 He was also baptized this day by A. A. Harris

He was saved Wenatchee, Washington, In April of 1960. He was baptized July 9, 1960 by the authority of the Eastside Missionary Baptist Church of East Wenatchee. Elder A.A. Harris administered the ordinance



so he was baptized in wanachee wa the same day he was married in modesto CA?______________________________



more information on Paul George Lawless (Brother of Clifford Lane Lawless)

Paul George Lawless ( Brother of Clifford Lane Lawless)
Born: 24 Jan 1927
Died: 26 Mar 1997



P. George Lawless ( Brother of Clifford Lane Lawless)

1930 United States Federal Census
Name: P George Lawless
Home in 1930: Brewster, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1926
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: George W Lawless
Mother's Name: Jessie G
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:
father George W Lawless born North Dakota
his parents born Unknown in USA
Occupation of George W Lawless - electrician
George W Lawless is a War Veteran

Mother, Jesse G. Dicus born In Washington
her father b. in Iowa, her mother b. Canada/English

Neighbors: 1930 census
Rawley Family
Lamberton Family


Household Members:
Name Age
George W Lawless 37
Jessie G Lawless 24
P George Lawless 3 4/12



Death Record For Paul George LawlessPaul Lawless
SSN: Edit-remove ss#
Last Residence: 20781 Hyattsville, Prince Georges, Maryland, United States of America
Born: 24 Jan 1927
Died: 26 Mar 1997
State (Year) SSN issued: Washington (Before 1951)


military for George Paul Lawless/Paul George Lawless
U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
about George P Lawless
Name: George P Lawless
Birth Year: 1927
Race: White, citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: Washington
State of Residence: Washington
County or City: Okanogan

Enlistment Date: 20 Jun 1945
Enlistment State: Washington
Enlistment City: Fort Lewis
Branch: No branch assignment
Branch Code: No branch assignment
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life

Education: 4 years of high school
Marital Status: Single, without dependents

More information on Esther Luretta Lawless (Step-Mother of Clifford Lane Lawless)

Esther Luretta Lawless
born October 23, 1897 Rome, Wisconsin
died/ Sacred Medical Center Spokane
Living in Brewster wa
member of Sacred Heart Roman Catholic church and the Altar Society.
she followed the seasonal fruit harvest
funeral-wednesday, jan 26, 1983 10 am
sacred heart roman catholic church.
rosary services hel tuesday jan 25, 1983 8pm barnes chapel rev joe bell officiating,
intermet brewster cemetery. barnes chapel, brewster in charge of arrangmets.

ESTHER LAWLESS
23 Oct 1897
Jan 1983
98812 (Brewster, Okanogan, WA)
Edit-remove ss#
California first issue SS#

More information on Jesse Dicus

The Herald Reporter - Aug 18, 1960

Reunio Brings Sisters Together

The home of Mrs. Florence Mansfield was the scene of the reunion of six Sanderson sisters and their families last Sunday.

Present was Mrs. Clara McKenzie, from Lewiston, Idaho, who arrived Friday night of last week, Mrs. Bea Ganzman, of Walla Walla, who was accompanied by her grandson, Gary, who arrived on Monday of last week, Mr. and Mrs. George of Snyder, (Gladys), of Seattle, who came on Tuesday of last week, Mr. and Mrs. Harold Haight, (Grace), of Spokane, who arrived last Saturday, and Mrs. Al Dicus, (Sadie), of Pateros.

Mr. and Mrs. George O. Snyder and their family, from Clallam Bay, also came to the reunion, as did Mr. and Mrs. Tom Mutch and their three children, of Ephrata. Mrs. Mutch is a daughter of the Haights, and George Snyder is the so of the George Snyders. Others present were Mr. and Mrs. Frank Dicus, from Chelan, Mr. and Mrs. Kenneth Sanderson, from 25 mile creek, Mrs. Jessie Lawless, from Seattle, and Mrs. Eva Sanderson, Mr. and Mrs. Ernie Lemon and family, Mr. Phin Wright, and Mrs. Mamie Tupper, all of Pateros.

Most of the visitors left on Monday, after spending some time visiting their many old friends and relatives in this area.

_____________________

1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Jesse Dicus
Home in 1920: Pateros, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 13 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1907
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Name: Alfred
Father's Birth Place: Iowa
Mother's Name: Sarah
Mother's Birth Place: Canada
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Female
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 371
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Dicus 42
Sarah Dicus 37
Eva Dicus 17
Jesse Dicus 13
Everest Dicus 9
David Dicus 7
______________

father of jesse Dicus

ALFRED DICUS
Born -12 Mar 1876
DEath -Feb 1972
(Brewster, Okanogan, WA 98812 )
Edit-remove ss#Washington

Mother of Jesse Dicus
SADIE DICUS
Born - 28 Feb 1882
Death - Apr 1966 98846 (Pateros, Okanogan, WA)
Edit remove ss#  Washington

___________________

jesse's brother David above

Name: David W Dicus
Home in 1930: Pateros, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1912
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: Alferd
Mother's Name: Sallie E
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alferd Dicus 54
Sallie E Dicus 48
Eva L Dicus 27
Everest A Dicus 20
David W Dicus 18
Norbert F Dicus 8

Washington Death Index, 1940-1996
about David W Dicus
Name: David W Dicus
Date of Death: 31 Jan 1970
Place of Death: Omak
RESIDENCE: Okanogan
Gender: Male
Certificate: 001282

________________

more info on siblings of Jesse Dicus



Brother of Jesse Dicus
EVEREST A DICUS
22 Feb 1910 06
Jan 1993
(Tonasket, Okanogan, WA 98855)
Edit-remove s# Washington

More information on Alfred Dicus Family

1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Alfred Dicus
Home in 1900: Foster Creek, Douglas, Washington
Age: 24
Birth Date: Mar 1876
Birthplace: Iowa
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Son
Father's Name: John J
Father's Birthplace: Ohio
Mother's Name: Lorretta
Mother's Birthplace: Iowa
Marital Status: Single
Residence : Chester, Columbia, Foster Creek, Gibson, and Pierpoint Precincts, Douglas, Washington
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John J Dicus 50
Lorretta Dicus 45
Alfred Dicus 24
William Dicus 14
Grace Dicus 16
Mark Dicus 9
John Dicus 6
Oscar Dicus 4

more information on Bea Ganzman, who was at the reunion, who had the grandson named Gary

1920 United States Federal Census
about Beatrice V Ganzman
Name: Beatrice V Ganzman
[Beatrice V Tanzman]
Home in 1920: Pateros, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 24 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Carl L E
Father's Birth Place: Canada
Mother's Birth Place: Canada
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 366
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Carl L E Ganzman 33
Beatrice V Ganzman 24
Hellen G Ganzman 4 2/12
Frances E Ganzman 2 1/12
C Everett Ganzman 11/12




1920 United States Federal Census
about Hellen G Ganzman
Name: Hellen G Ganzman
[Hellen G Tanzman]
Home in 1920: Pateros, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 4 years 2 months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1915
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Name: Carl L E
Father's Birth Place: Germany
Mother's Name: Beatrice V
Mother's Birth Place: Washington
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Female
Image: 366
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Carl L E Ganzman 33
Beatrice V Ganzman 24
Hellen G Ganzman 4 2/12
Frances E Ganzman 2 1/12
C Everett Ganzman 11/12


Social Security Death Index
about Everett C. Ganzman
Name: Everett C. Ganzman
SSN: Edit-remove ss#
Last Residence: 98902 Yakima, Yakima, Washington, United States of America
Born: 18 Jan 1919
Died: 31 Aug 1998
State (Year) SSN issued: Washington (Before 1951)


Name: Everett C Ganzman
Birth Date: May 1920
Address: 620 S Pleasant Av, Yakima, Washington 98902-0501 (1993)
[15 S 8th Av #9, Yakima, Washington 98902-0401 (1993)]


World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Carl Ludwig Edward Ganzman
Name: Carl Ludwig Edward Ganzman
County: Okanogan
State: Washington
Birthplace: Baden;Germany
Birth Date: 13 Jul 1886
Race: Caucasian (White)
Roll: 1991725
DraftBoard: 0

Here is what I am coming up with

Gary D Lawless JR Age: 40-44
32288 Rock Creek Rd
Manton, CA 96059-8606
(530) Edit-no phone numbers please

Gary D Lawless Age: 65+
3080 S Yale St
Wichita, KS 67210-1426


Could Sr be in Kansas?

Thanks to Klass-

Timothy R Lawless
Date of Birth: 07/18/1983

Residence: Calais ME, 04619

Address last verified on: 01/28/2009

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub6_022109/TimothyRLawlessMaine.jpg)

Oklahoma cancelled business registrations:

3500673354 GARY D. LAWLESS MINISTRIES, L.L.C. 4245050001 Cancelled 7/1/2005

on the marriage record of marylin tieken and gary d lawless, gary is born about 1933..making him about 76 yrs old today. 

these are the parents of timothy, gary d, and jeffrey carl lawless  aka gomes after the step father.

hmmm can you get any more info on this person... is there a filing of DBA or something with his birthdate or an address we can punch in?

is taht pic on the left with the pimp daddy hat timothy john lawless / gomes?

let me see if I can pull up kids for timothy john lawless gomes, maybe that other one is his son. let me go look

Lawless in CALAIS, ME



LAWLESS, SCOTT D (Age 39)
 LEWISTON, ME
BAILEYVILLE, ME
PORTLAND, ME
CALAIS, ME
SCARBOROUGH, ME
S PORTLAND, ME
WOODLAND, ME
ALEXANDER, ME
BARING, ME
SOUTH FREEPORT, ME   

Possible Roommates / Associates:

VICAIRE, RICHARD C (Age 41)





LAWLESS, CARMEN D (Age 52)
LOUISVILLE, KY
ALEXANDER, ME
CALAIS, ME
BARING, ME   





  LAWLESS, JOHN F (Age 47)
  CALAIS, ME
BAILEYVILLE, ME
ALEXANDER, ME
BARING, ME

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, DAVIDA M (Age 43)






.  PERKINS, BRENDA M (Age 44)

Associated names:

 LAWLESS, BRENDA M
 ROCKLAND, ME
BAILEYVILLE, ME
CALAIS, ME
ALEXANDER, ME
CARIBOU, ME
BARING, ME

Possible Relatives:

PERKINS, BRENDA M (Age 51)
PERKINS, TIMOTHY A (Age 56)
PERKINS, SUZANNE
PERKINS, I





.  LAWLESS, FREDERICK W (Age 52)
 CALAIS, ME   






  LAWLESS, DAVIDA M (Age 43)
 BAILEYVILLE, ME
CALAIS, ME
WOODLAND, ME


Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, JOHN F (Age 47)
LAWLESS, JOHN F (Age 67)





  LAWLESS, STEPHEN H (Age 77)
 CALAIS, ME
CARIBOU, ME
BAILEYVILLE, ME
WOODLAND, ME
PRINCETON, ME   





 LAWLESS, JOHN F (Age 67)

Associated names:

 LAWLESS, JOHN
 CALAIS, ME
BAILEYVILLE, ME
ALEXANDER, ME
WOODLAND, ME

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, DAVIDA M (Age 43)
LAWLESS, ARLINE J (Age 68)





 LAWLESS, AMANDA L (Age 31)
    CALAIS, ME
BANGOR, ME   





  LAWLESS, SHANE T (Age 49)
 CALAIS, ME
BANGOR, ME

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, THOMAS H (Age 80)






.  LAWLESS, JOHN F
 CALAIS, ME   




.  LAWLESS, ANGELA D (Age 32)

Associated names:

 COTTRELL, ANGELA
  BAILEYVILLE, ME
CALAIS, ME

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, ARLINE L (Age 68)






  LAWLESS, LYNN A
 CALAIS, ME   





 LAWLESS, THOMAS H (Age 80)
 CALAIS, ME

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, SHANE T (Age 49)





  LAWLESS, DAVIDA M
 CALAIS, ME   





.  LAWLESS, LYNN
  CALAIS, ME   





  LAWLESS, JOHN JR

Associated names:

 LAWLESS, JR JOHN
  CALAIS, ME   





  LAWLESS, VANCE D
CALAIS, ME   




  LAWLESS, ARLINE J (Age 68)
CALAIS, ME

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, JOHN F (Age 67)






  LAWLESS, SCOTT D
  CALAIS, ME   





  LAWLESS, AMANDA
 CALAIS, ME   





 LAWLESS, JR FREDERICK W
  CALAIS, ME   





  LAWLESS, BRENDA
  CALAIS, ME   





  LAWLESS, AMANDA
 CALAIS, ME   





.  LAWLESS, S L
  CALAIS, ME   




.  LAWLESS, A
 CALAIS, ME   





.  LAWLESS, T
 CALAIS, ME   






 LAWLESS, F
  CALAIS, ME   





 LAWLESS, T
 CALAIS, ME   






  LAWLESS, EUGENIA G
 CALAIS, ME

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, STEPHEN H





  LAWLESS, STEPHEN H
 CALAIS, ME

Relatives:

LAWLESS, EUGENIA G
 

This is not a church, its a LLC, or limited liability co.
No exempt status of any kind, definately for profit.

Possible, but he would have been 18 when he was born (Sr).

Here's something really interesting..
The John in your Maine Lawless's, and the A Lawless, any chance that is an Agnes or Alice using Agnes as an alias?
We have found some pubs with those 2..

Blink .... his myspace - last login 2007

http://www.myspace.com/nugget2006
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=58445689&albumID=647419&imageID=1686236

Gary D in here as well from a 1975 article.

That is just way too many Lawless's for me to check!  I now have a headache!!!!  There are Lawless's in every county I have searched so far.....can't keep up with them!  It's like trying to find a Smith or Jones only these people all seem to be connected to a church in one way or another!   ::MonkeyConfused::   

GARY D. LAWLESS MINISTRIES, L.L.C.

Entity Type
Domestic Limited Liability Company

Filing Number
3500673354

GARY D LAWLESS
6320 E 3RD
TULSA, OK 74112

Name Type
Legal

http://www.infibeam.com/Books/categories/Religion/search?q=Agnes%20Lawless

this link comes up with 38 Books that tag " Agnes Lawless" - this is books under religion. Other Lawless Authors come up as well. Lots of Lawless within Religion huh..

State of California Recorded Documents

http://www.ca.gov/OS_Government_documents.html

I hear you!  I am going after the Oklahoma one I posted as on the last page as both he and son listed are the right age,

just for reference to see if they tie to your OK ones


MILLERTON BAPTIST CHURCH INCORPORATED
Millerton, OK    
LAWLESS, WENDY
(CONTACT)
 

Well I'm off to bed....good luck to all in your searches!

MILLERTON BAPTIST CHURCH INCORPORATED

Filing Number
1412049285

Entity Type
Domestic Not For Profit Corporation Church

(RA) Registered Agent
MILLERTON BAPTIST CHURCH INCORPORATED
302 N E
MILLERTON, OK 74750

(RA) Effective Date: 9/22/2004
 
Name Type
Legal 

Nite!  I am almost done myself.

at this address
6320 E 3RD
TULSA, OK 74112
Possible Relatives:

LOLLIS, GARY DON (Age 54)
LOLLIS, LINDA
LOLLIS, DONNY D (Age 35)
LOLLIS, MICHAEL D (Age 35)
LOLLIS, MICHELLE JANIECE (Age 28)

Sorry if I missed it , but have we checked this address?
Gary D Lawless Age: 65+
3080 S Yale St
Wichita, KS 67210-1426

3080 S Yale St
WICHITA, KS
BELLE PLAINE, KS

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, SIR GARY W (Age 67)
 

May 11, 2007 10:43 pm US/Pacific
Oakland Man Gets 7 Years For Fatal Shooting
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numSlides of totalImages  An Oakland man was sentenced Friday to seven years in state prison for a shooting incident more than six years ago that left one associate dead and another wounded.

Gary Lawless, 30, had faced a possible term of 50 years to life if he'd been convicted of murder and attempted murder charges for the incident in the 2400 block of East 23rd Street shortly before 11 p.m. on Dec. 4, 2000, that left 25-year-old Sirreginald Gardner dead and Robert Coleman wounded.

But prosecutor Chris Lamiero allowed Lawless to plead no contest to the lesser charge of voluntary manslaughter on April 13, three weeks after jurors deadlocked 6-6 on his fate following a lengthy trial that included the shooting of a key prosecution witness.

Jurors said they had problems with the credibility of witnesses both for the prosecution and the defense.

The attempted murder charge against Lawless was dropped in exchange for his plea.

Because Lawless has been in custody since July of 2003, he will only have to serve about two more years before he is eligible for parole.

Gardner's mother, Pamela McGloughlin, told Alameda County Superior Court Judge C. Don Clay in Friday's sentencing that a seven-year sentence "is not enough time for what he (Lawless) did to my son."

McLoughlin said her son "won't rest in peace until this is resolved" with a tougher sentence for Lawless.

But Clay said prosecutors agreed to a plea bargain and light sentence for Lawless because the jury deadlocked. He said he would go along with the agreement.

However, the judge told Lawless that he was involved in "a world of guns and violence and that's not acceptable."

Lecturing his courtroom, which was filled with people waiting for other cases, Clay said, "You young men and women have to stop playing with guns and take care of each other."

In his closing argument in March, Lamiero told jurors that the shooting was sparked by a turf war over a drug-selling spot and Lawless opened fire with an assault rifle in retaliation for an incident earlier that evening in which he and several associates were threatened at gunpoint by another group of young people.

Lamiero said Lawless and his associates left the site after the first encounter and returned with guns later that night.

He said Lawless sent Gardner and another man, Robert Coleman, ahead to scout the scene but became impatient after their car broke down and they failed to give him a report on who was at the corner.

Lamiero said Lawless "saw some targets of opportunity" and opened fire, hitting his own associates, Gardner and
Coleman.

Robert Coleman is the brother of Glynn Coleman, who also was involved in the incident.

Lawless admitted on the witness stand that he's a drug dealer and a convicted child molester but denied firing any shots that night.
In his closing argument, defense attorney William DuBois accused Lamiero of putting on an "ugly stepsister of a case and trying to squeeze it into Cinderella's shoe."

He said the prosecution's witnesses were unreliable and alleged, "This case is an example of the government reaching beyond the bounds of fairness."

Lawless testified that Glynn Coleman was the person who carried out the shooting, stating that he tried to talk Coleman out of it but Coleman insisted.

Leroy Coleman, a brother of Glynn Coleman and Robert Coleman, also testified that Glynn Coleman did the shooting.

But Lamiero told jurors not to believe Leroy Coleman, reminding them that Coleman is in state prison for two murders and alleging that "Leroy couldn't even get his story straight" about what happened that night.

Glynn Coleman was shot to death while sitting in his car in the 5100 block of Bancroft Avenue, near Cole Street, in Oakland about 11:30 p.m. on March 17, 2003. That case has never been solved, according to prosecutor Lamiero.

At about 5:45 p.m. on Jan. 16 of this year, two weeks after Lawless' trial began, prosecution witness Terence Smith was shot while sitting in a van at the Coliseum BART station in Oakland. Smith survived the shooting, but wasn't able to testify.

After Friday's hearing, McLoughlin said she thinks that Lawless "will kill again" after he's released from prison in a few years.

http://cbs5.com/local/oakland.fatal.shooting.2.455487.html

That is interesting.  Sounds like some folks in Florida on another thread riding around looking for each other with guns. 

Welcome Doubledecker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1   Sorry I didn't welcome you earlier, I went right to work searching and sadly have so far come up empty.

Good nite all who are leaving.  I'm going to stay awhile longer and search.

hmmm so he was 30 in 2007, so would be 32 now... so I wonder if he is the one who was in the butte county jail?  sex offender, been in custody since july 2003, drug user .  and the butte court said he might be in the alameda jail. 

if this is him he is not the father, or the gary d lawless the brother of timothy as timothy's brother was born 1968 which would make him 41 now, not 32. 

I wonder if there could be a mistake in the paper on his age? hmmm

well tired now, but will look at this more tomorrow. 

if this guy was in jail inn 2007 and had a couple more years to do, did he just get out?
this article is may 11 2007, he might have just got out. 

could he be a step brother? who was born to the father gary d lawless after he divorced timothy's mother.  that would make him younger than the other boys... but would he have another son with the same name?

I don't know, will think about this tomorrow. 

I wish they would put the birthdates on the butte county court records, would certainly help ugh

I just finished checking both vinenet and kasper for inmates with the name of Lawless in california and Oklahoma.  Nothing for gary or duane

my gut tells me this is the sex offender that has not registered but I have no proof,

Yes I was thinking the same thing.  lol

I think so also... and I looked up the gary lawless who might have lived in oakland and it might be the one with katherine M lawless/nee robinson listed with a gary lawless and a jermaine lawless 27.  I'm too tired now to be able to remember which line this connects to.. I will work on this more tomorrow. 

I think this is the one listed with the 89 year old lawless. 

will look it all up tomorrow and sort all through it again. 

this guy could be out of jail now.  so I wonder where he is, paroled to oakland?  or did he parole elsewhere?

WOW!!! ::MonkeyWink::
You Monkeys have been VERY busy today!!!(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa149/Ayani_album/smilies.gif)

With fresh eyes and a morning cup of coffee, I will read this thread more thoroughly!...
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Good Morning  Lonemonkey!!!!  I just made a fresh pot of coffee and may stay up all nite !!

Doubledecker,

I found a Timothy A Lawless with Melissa Lawless as relative on Intellius

 Timothy A Lawless
View Details
 43  Peoria, IL
Crystal Lake, IL
Metamora, IL         
Timothy A Lawless
Melissa Lawless
Jane E Lawless 

So I googled Timothy A Lawless and got a link to Kidsafe org.

http://www.ksrc.us/Leagues/asp/listn2.asp

If you scroll down to Timothy A Lawless it shows him a Deacon and unknown for the team he will coach or whatever.  Anyway I'm wondering if he gave false info to try to pass a background check so he could get involved with kids.???? 
 ::MonkeyEek::

This is me... ::MonkeyConfused::
I've been up 5 and will be up again at the same dog gone time!
I can't wait to dig into this with you Monkeys in the morning!
G'Night All
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Godnite Lonemonkey!!!

You look really, really tired.  Have a good rest!

Link to the Church that Connie Lawless family operates
Salinas, California
http://www.alisalbaptistchurch.org/
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St. Mary of the Nativity Catholic Church in Salinas is less than a Block from Alisal Baptist Church - I mapped it ... says less than 1 min by car ...

http://www.bishop-accountability.org/AbuseTracker/print.html
CALIFORNIA
Monterey Herald
By CLARE MOUNTEER
Guest commentary
Updated: 04/26/2009 01:36:01 AM PDT
It is not surprising that the public is shocked and confused by recent high-profile charges leveled against Melissa Huckaby, accused of the rape and murder of 8-year-old Sandra Cantu, and in our own community by sexual assault charges against the Rev. Antonio Cortes and Dr. Carl Bergstrom.

We like to think that young mothers, priests and doctors are some of the most trustworthy people in society when it comes to our personal safety. Some, like the parishioners of St. Mary's, where Cortes has been their priest, find it not just unthinkable, but unbelievable that a man who has been so helpful to so many could ever sexually violate a young boy. And there is comfort in that belief. To believe differently makes us afraid to trust anyone and makes us all vulnerable.

Although these cases have yet to be adjudicated, they do illustrate the unfortunate truth that anyone can be accused of being a perpetrator of sexual violence, and that anyone can be a victim. In these cases, two of the alleged victims are children, and one is a male. In all three cases, the victims and alleged perpetrators were known to each other.
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http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news2009/03_04/2009_04_21_Zamudio_SalinasPriests.htm

snipped:

Four hours after the court hearing, parishioners gathered at the east Salinas church to pray. About 60 people recited a rosary for Cortes. Some parishioners said they plan to hold prayer sessions every day at 5:30 p.m. until Cortes' legal troubles are over.

"We are willing to do anything to get him out of [jail]," Bravo said.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Bail for Cortes is $750,000, but Hernandez said he plans to ask the judge to reduce it to $50,000. It is unclear who will pay for Cortes' legal defense or bail. The Diocese of Monterey County will not pay for a defense attorney or bail, said Warren Hoy, spokesman for the diocese.Hoy said Cortes received a small stipend while he worked for two years at St. Mary's, a church of roughly 5,000 parishioners.
Cortes has been the head priest at St. Mary's since June 2007 and has been with the diocese for about 12 years, including churches in Gonzales, Greenfield and Soledad, Hoy said. Cortes, 41, originally met the victim, a church member, when the boy was 14. Then, in February, Cortes gave him alcohol and began molesting him, prosecutors said. On April 14, the priest allegedly sodomized the boy, now 16.
The Salinas Police Department is investigating the case and trying to determine if there are any other victims.

Should have been 'Goodnite Lonemonkey!!!'

It must be true that some people wouldn't know evil if it walked up and slapped them in the face.  So sad...   ::MonkeyNoNo::

GOOD MORNING AGAIN FROM THE EAST COAST!  We're getting closer, monkeys, much, much, closer:


LAWLESS, GARY D
(DOB: 07/1932)
 (Age: 76) 

2100 N UNION ST APT
PONCA CITY, OK 74601-1534
KAY COUNTY
(05/1995-01/1996)

I'll hunt some more. . .
 

By the way, not to complicate matters any further, but I ran an associated persons search for 6320 E 3rd Street in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and came up with a Gary, but his last name was spelled LOLLIS, not Lawless.  Is this another wrinkle?  Has anyone else seen that spelling?

More on Gary D. Lawless from Oklahoma. Note the Kansas connection. I located this information by running a Historical Person Locator report on the Gary D. Lawless who lived at the Oklahoma address I posted above.

Historical Person Locator
This data is for informational purposes only.   
 
Finder Information
Name:   LAWLESS, GARY D
Address:   821 APACHE DR
WICHITA, KS 67207-2119
SEDGWICK COUNTY
Phone:   316-Edit-No phone numbers please
Date of Birth:   07/1932

Finder Information
Name:   LAWLESS, GARY D
Address:   5028-2 E FUNSTON ST APT 2
WICHITA, KS 67218-4361
SEDGWICK COUNTY
Phone:   316-Edit-No phone numbers please
Date of Birth:   07/1932

Finder Information
Name:   LAWLESS, GARY D
Address:   2100 N UNION ST APT
PONCA CITY, OK 74601-1534
KAY COUNTY
Date of Birth:   07/1932

Finder Information
Name:   LAWLESS, GARY D
Address:   RR 2 BOX 195
BELLE PLAINE, KS 67013
SUMNER COUNTY
Date of Birth:   07/1932

I did an historical address report on that addy.  No reports of any "lawless" or "lollis" having ever lived there.  Let me know if you want to see the report anyway, and I'll post it.  It's about 17 persons long.

I have no idea if this is connected, but I thought it might be worth investigating.  I found it while searching for Oklahoma corporations associated with the name "Lawless."

1912154996 

LANE LAWLESS  INCORPORATOR   
Domestic For Profit Business Corporation 

Registered Agent - LAWLESS LANE
5010 S 167TH E AVE
TULSA, OK 74134   

I'm going to check out that address . . .

Sorry for cluttering the thread--no likely connection:

Name: LAWLESS, LANDON L (LANE)
Address: 5010 S 167TH EAST AVE
TULSA, OK 74134-7185
TULSA COUNTY
Date of Birth: 05/1971
 

Good Morning Monkeys!

Impressive body of work you guys. Wow.

On the article posted for Gary Lawless, with the failed to register, blah blah. I am thinking the way that article is worded that he was 30 in 2000, at the time of the incident, which puts him at 39-40 now?
B

Morning everyone!  I have a silly question......has anyone thought about just trying to contact Chona Lawless and ask her if Timothy and Melissa are related?  I know this is really out there... but who knows, she just might talk  ::MonkeyCool::

Chona Lawless Myspace page??

http://www.myspace.com/chonaisms101

good morning, up and at it again. 

 Timothy A Lawless
Birth Date: Dec 1965
I have addresses if necessary
 
LAWLESS, TIMOTHY A (Age 43)

Associated names:

 LAWLESS, TIM D  same person
 CRYSTAL LAKE, IL
PEORIA, IL


LAWLESS, MELISSA
 CRYSTAL LAKE, IL

I can't figure out which melissa this is,
might be melissa K lawless, not sure

Quick Facts

Chona Lawless has set her myspace profile to private-looks like recently...       www.tracypress.com

Contact Details
Chona Lawless, Folsom, CA. (916) 986-9...   www.whitepages.com
Chona J Lawless. 3532 Debina Way, Rancho Cordova, CA. Phone Unlisted...   whitepages.addresses.com

Personal Profiles
CJ Lawless. "If you're going to judge me, you had better know the truth about me......profile.myspace.com - Deep Web Chona J Lawless...

Facebook    www.facebook.com
Chona Lawless <CJLawless>. Female, 35... [Some information require login]

Bebo    www.bebo.com - Deep Web

Professional & Business
Chona J Lawless, Lady Legendz...
Fictitious Business Names - Sacramento County, CA    www.efbn.saccounty.net - Deep Web

catching up here,

the one above is the right age,
I have the right gary d lawless as born about 1933 on the marriage record of him married to marylin Elizabeth Tieken and also last name Short, same marriage date.

this is the mother of timothy john, Gary Duane, and Jeffrey Carl (all Lawless on birth record), aka of all is Gomes, the last name of their step father Manuel Gomes who their mother married 5 yrs later. 

let me take the info you have above for gary d lawless born 7/1932 and see what else I can find, to figure out if this guy you have is the same one as Timothy's father of record. 

Timothy Lawless

http://208.43.55.68/search/?FirstName=timothy+&LastName=Lawless&City=&State=ca&Country=&CategoryID=2&Interface=2


Gary D Lawless

Public Records
Gary D Lawless...
Inmate information - Nebraska Department of Correc    dcs-inmatesearch.ne.gov - Deep Web

http://208.43.55.68/search/?FirstName=Gary+d&LastName=Lawless&City=&State=ca&Country=&CategoryID=2&Interface=2

Parents of George W Lawless
James H Lawless
B 15 Mat 1865/66 Rockspring, Patrick VA
D Nov 1945 MO

married 14 May 1890
Tecumseh, Johnson , NE

Nancy Hanse Rowland
B 5 Jan 1865 Glasgow, Barron, KY
D 9 Dec 1945 Omark, Okanogan, WA


Children or James H  Lawless and Nancy Hanse Rowland:

Agnes Lawless
B 1893 , WA
D 10 Aug 1976, WA

Mabel Pearl Lawless
B 1890 Tecumsehm Johnson, New Brunswick, Canada
D 6 Nov 1959 Okanogan, Brewster, WA

George Webster Lawless (father of Clifford Lane Lawless)
B 28 apr 1892 Fremont, Dodge, NE
D 11 Nov 1969 WA

John Mack Lawless
B 23 Nov 1893, York, New Brunswick, Canada
D 6 Feb 1965, California

Zina Ellen Lawless
B 15 Oct 1895, New Brunswick Canada
D 22 Jul 1897 New Brunswick Canada

Willian Bryan Lawless
B 31 Aug 1897 New Brunsiwick Canada
D 15 Aug 1975 Okanogan, Brewster WA

Ralph Devere Lawless
B 1 Jan 1902 New Brunswick Canada
D 23 May 1963 Okanogan , Brewster, WA

Richard Birdette Lawless
B 1909 Washington
D 26 May 1962 Brewster, WA


More about
Agnes Lawless
B 1893 , WA
D 10 Aug 1976, WA

married

James Levi Turner
B 1889 Missouri
D 1973 washington

Children:

Ruth Kay Turner
B 1922 Washington
D 29 Aug 1998 Soap Lake, WA

James L Turner
B 1923

Donald Dee Turner
B 17 Apr 1933 Washington
D 16 Dec 1963 Washington

More about
Mabel Pearl Lawless
B 1890 Tecumsehm Johnson, New Brunswick, Canada
D 6 Nov 1959 Okanogan, Brewster, WA

Married

Leland Haley

Children:

Georgia Pearl Haley

B 1911 WA
D 1969 Okanogan, Brewster, WA

Married

Harry McCartney

Children :

Harry McCartney

More about
Willian Bryan Lawless
B 31 Aug 1897 New Brunsiwick Canada
D 15 Aug 1975 Okanogan, Brewster WA

married

Gladys Thayer
B 1898

More about
Richard Birdette Lawless
B 1909 Washington
D 26 May 1962 Brewster, WA

married

Wilma Holt

just heard this on the news

pastor clifford lane lawless and wife are in Sutter County or sutter CA waiting for this to die down, no intention of closing church

okay sutter county and sutter CA are two different places but close, I have to look them up but one might be in yuba county .  these are very close to butte county and not far from sacramento either. 

I don't have time to check out which lawless live there right now, but will look later, this might help us track which lawless they are related to over there. 

right now I am working on the gary d lawless in OK born july 1932, but wanted to post this note about what was just on the news.

Thanks.  I am putting together a family tree (see above) to figure out which branch belongs to whom.  I will look at this in a few minutes.

yes I just read your part of the tree... ok from where clifford starts with his father, I have all that on down and then I have 2 more generations back on cliffords mother's side, it is at the first part of this thread. 

now it is the father of clifford where most likely will branch off with the brothers of george w lawless, the father of clifford.  most likely it is one of the brothers of george w lawless where we will find gary d lawless coming down that line, MY Guess.

now that we have the brothers of george w, father of clifford and his brothers, we should be able to come right back down those brothers' lines and run into gary d lawless... IF, in fact he is part of this lawless family. 

I got news for them--THIS AIN'T EVER GONNA DIE DOWN! 

more info on richard birdette lawless
he was a LODGER in this household

Name: Richard B Lawless
Home in 1930: Brewster, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910 
Birthplace: Washington 
Relation to Head of House: Lodger   
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Clarence H Whitley 40 
Hilda G Whitley 35 
Ila O Whitley 15 
Edward C Whitley 13 
Bethell M Whitley 10 
Olive M Whitley 8 
Charles Roller 67 
Amandus Benson 65 
Richard B Lawless 20   
 

here is NANCY, the mother of George W lawless, father of clifford lane lawless.
this is where I was working UP last night.
James the father of george w lawless is no longer in the household?  did he die? remarry?  lets hope he did not remarry and end up with another whole line from him somewhere.

Name: Richard D Lawless
Home in 1920: Bodie, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 9 years 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1911
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head of House: Son 
Father's Birth Place: Indiana 
Mother's Name: Nancy W
Mother's Birth Place: Illinois 
Marital Status: Single 
Race: White
Sex: Male
Image: 171 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Nancy W Lawless 54 
George W Lawless 27 
William B Lawless 22 
Ralph D Lawless 18 
Agnes A Lawless 15 
Richard D Lawless 9 
Mabel P Heley 28 
Georgie P Heley 8 
 

Lawless' in Sutter (Yuba County) and Sutter County:

 No.   Full Name   Address/Phone
       
1.  SALVATO, MARY J
LAWLESS, MARY J
(DOB: 07/1959)
(Age: 49)
PO BOX 244
OLIVEHURST, CA 95961-0244
YUBA COUNTY
(01/2000-Current)

1644 2ND AVE
OLIVEHURST, CA 95961-4003
YUBA COUNTY
(11/2007-09/2008)

1875 N TOWNSHIP RD
YUBA CITY, CA 95993-9661
SUTTER COUNTY
(09/2004-09/2006)

1642 2ND AVE
OLIVEHURST, CA 95961-4003
YUBA COUNTY
(10/1999-09/2006)


       
2.  LAWLESS, CLAUDE
1482 SKY HARBOR DR # 13
MARYSVILLE, CA 95901-7470
YUBA COUNTY
(09/1991-Current)


       
3.  LAWLESS, SHARON L
(DOB: 1956)
(Age: 53)           
1574 HEATHER DR APT 106
YUBA CITY, CA 95993-2214
SUTTER COUNTY
(01/1983-Current)

500 KING AVE APT 16
YUBA CITY, CA 95991-2846
SUTTER COUNTY
(01/1983-01/1983)

4.  LAWLES, JOHN
LAWLESS, JOHN
4356 TWAIN DR
MARYSVILLE, CA 95901-7549
YUBA COUNTY
(04/2000-09/2002)

5.  LAWLESS, MARY FRANCES
LAWLESS, MARY F
LAWLESS, MARY
(DOB: 01/1962)
(Age: 47)       
3203 SCHULER DR
BOSSIER CITY, LA 71112-5125
BOSSIER COUNTY
(08/2002-Current)

PSC BOX 1936
APO, AE 09494
(03/1997-03/1997)

3330 WAVERLY DR
BEALE AFB, CA 95903-2128
YUBA COUNTY
(02/1995-02/1995)

4632 LARK DR
BEALE AFB, CA 95903-2529
YUBA COUNTY
(06/1994-06/1994)

PSC 50 BOX 1936
APO, AE 09494-9998


       
6.  LAWLESS, ROBERT JAMES
LAWLESS, ROBERT J
LAWLESS, ROBERT
(DOB: 04/1960)
(Age: 49)
3203 SCHULER DR
BOSSIER CITY, LA 71112-5125
BOSSIER COUNTY
(06/2002-Current)

3330 WAVERLY DR
BEALE AFB, CA 95903-2128
YUBA COUNTY
(01/1995-01/1995)

4632 LARK DR
BEALE AFB, CA 95903-2529
YUBA COUNTY
(05/1994-05/1994)

PSC 14 BOX 5095
APO NEW YORK, NY 09192
(04/1992-12/1992)

PSC 10 BOX 2225
APO NEW YORK, NY 09130
(04/1992-04/1992)

PSC 1 BOX 5095
APO NEW YORK, NY 09633
(01/1990-12/1991)

PSC 50 BOX 1936
APO, AE 09494-9998


7.  LAWLESS, WILLIAM DEAN
LAWLESS, WILLIAM D
PO BOX 14
ARBUCKLE, CA 95912-0014
COLUSA COUNTY
(06/2006-Current)
       
8. OTIS, MARGARET L
LAWLESS, MARGARET L
(DOB: 04/1959)
(Age: 50)       
4104 VILLA DR
REDDING, CA 96001-2901
SHASTA COUNTY
(02/1986-Current)
OTIS LARRY D
(02/1986-Current)


2349 FOOTHILL BLVD
OROVILLE, CA 95966-5520
BUTTE COUNTY
(10/1985-04/1986)
    
9. LAWLESS, ANTHONY A   
3249 RIDGE DR
BEALE AFB, CA 95903-2139
YUBA COUNTY
(01/1990-Current)

10. LAWLESS, ROGER
645 TREELINE DR ST
SMARTVILLE, CA 95977
NEVADA COUNTY
(03/2005-10/2005)

11.  LALLIS-MARTINEZ, MAXINE
LAWLESS MARTINEZ, MAXINE M
2449 BALDWIN AVE
PALERMO, CA 95968-9756
BUTTE COUNTY
(08/2002-Current)

We are on the same wave length.  I think it will catch up with one of George W's siblings branches and there are many as you can see.

James Lawless - Nancy's husband was still alive in 1920.  He died in 1945 as did she.  I was concerned that he may have remarried as well as they both pass within a month of each other but in different states. 

ok this has different states listed for the births of parents etc and the child, but this is off of the census.  but is definitely the same family.

when you start getting back this far in genealogy it is common to have errors on the records, but this is showing the family living in Malaga, Chelan, Washington in 1910 census. 

Malaga, Chelan, Washington

ooops didn't post the record haha

here it is


ok this has different states listed for the births of parents etc and the child, but this is off of the census.  but is definitely the same family.

when you start getting back this far in genealogy it is common to have errors on the records, but this is showing the family living in Malaga, Chelan, Washington in 1910 census. 


1910 United States Federal Census
about John M Lawless
Name: John M Lawless
Age in 1910: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Birthplace: Nebraska
Relation to Head of House: Son 
Father's Name: James H W
Father's Birth Place: Indiana 
Mother's Name: Nancy H 
Mother's Birth Place: Kentucky 
Home in 1910: Malaga, Chelan, Washington
Marital Status: Single 
Race: White
Gender: Male 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
James H W Lawless 43 grandparents of CLL
Nancy H Lawless 45   
George W Lawless 17  father of clifford lane lawless
John M Lawless 16  john mack lawless, uncle of clifford lane lawless
William B Lawless 12  Uncle of CLL
Ralph D Lawless 8  Uncle of CCL
Agnes A Lawless 6  aunt of CLL
Bardette Lawless 1/12  uncle or aunt of CLL
 
 

I think also it will be the brother of george w lawless(father of clifford lane lawless)
it will be one of george's kids, an uncle of CLL, who will come down and run into Gary D lawless... I HOPE LOL...

heck james was not  in the household of nancy way back there on the census, so he might have left and remarried someone and started a whole new line of lawless.  LOL   lets hope not ugh. 

ok I will keep digging and we can piece this together.  we have to find gary d lawless, father of timothy john lawless somewhere in this mess.  LOL

Name: John M Lawless
Birth Date: Nov 1958
Phone Number: Edit-No phone numbers please
Address: Pob 1614, Chelan, Washington 98816-0701 (1993)
[836 S Bridge St, Brewster, Washington 98812]
[318 E Trow, Chelan, Washington 98816] 


Pob 1614, Chelan, Washington
CHELAN, WA
BREWSTER, WA
MANSON, WA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, JOHN M (Age 50)
 


Pob 1614, Chelan, Washington
CHELAN, WA
BREWSTER, WA
MANSON, WA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, LISA G (Age 38) 


836 S Bridge St, Brewster, Washington
CHELAN, WA
BREWSTER, WA
MANSON, WA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, JOHN M (Age 50)



836 S Bridge St, Brewster, Washington

 CHELAN, WA
BREWSTER, WA
MANSON, WA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, LISA G (Age 38)



318 E Trow, Chelan, Washington

don't find lawless name here, but found a JOHNSON, and there are a lot of JOHNSONS in the other addresses above. there is a nancy johnson at this address age 89

if we need this later I will post all the names at these addresses, but for now just leave this with the John M Lawless.  He has to be one of the kids of someone.

1910

Name: James H W Lawless
Age in 1910: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Birthplace: Indiana  
Relation to Head of House: Head 
Father's Birth Place: United States of America 
Mother's Birth Place: United States of America 
Spouse's Name: Nancy H
Home in 1910: Malaga, Chelan, Washington  
Marital Status: Married 
Race: White
Gender: Male 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
James H W Lawless 43 
Nancy H Lawless 45 
George W Lawless 17  father of CLL
John M Lawless 16 
William B Lawless 12 
Ralph D Lawless 8 
Agnes A Lawless 6 
Bardette Lawless 1/12  this is richard bardette lawless
 
 so james is living with nancy on 1910 census, but depending on when they took the census this could be anytime within 10 years before 1910 that he was there.



1920

by 1920 census James, husband of Nancy is gone out of the house.
so he left sometime between 1910 and 1920.

Name: Richard D Lawless son of nancy and james, uncle of CLL
Home in 1920: Bodie, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 9 years 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1911
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head of House: Son 
Father's Birth Place: Indiana 
Mother's Name: Nancy W
Mother's Birth Place: Illinois 
Marital Status: Single 
Race: White
Sex: Male
Image: 171 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Nancy W Lawless 54 
George W Lawless 27  father of CLL
William B Lawless 22 
Ralph D Lawless 18 
Agnes A Lawless 15 
Richard D Lawless 9  he goes to live with other family on 1930 census- see below
Mabel P Heley 28 
Georgie P Heley 8 

1930

everyone gone but Mabel P Haley 39

Name: Nancy H Lawless
Home in 1930: Brewster, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 
Birthplace: Kentucky 
Relation to Head of House: Head 
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Nancy H Lawless 65  
Mabel P Haley 39


richard now with other family
Name: Richard B Lawless this is richard bargette lawlessHome in 1930: Brewster, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910 
Birthplace: Washington 
Relation to Head of House: Lodger 
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Clarence H Whitley 40 
Hilda G Whitley 35 
Ila O Whitley 15 
Edward C Whitley 13 
Bethell M Whitley 10 
Olive M Whitley 8 
Charles Roller 67 
Amandus Benson 65 
Richard B Lawless 20   living with another family now
 

First sister Agnes.  Doubt highly it is this branch.

Agnes Ada Lawless
B 17 Mar 1904, Bernita or Chelan  , WA
D 10 Aug 1976, Soap Lake WA

married 8 Apr 1922 Okanogan, Washington

James Levi Turner
B 1889 Missouri
D 1973 washington

             Children:

           1. Ruth Kay Turner
           B 10 Jul 1922  Tenino Washington
           D 29 Aug 1998 Soap Lake, WA

Married 1 Jun 1949 Soap Lake, Gant County, Washington

Gilbert (Gib) Leroy Lester
B 8 Sep 1921, Iowa
D 26 Nov 1998 Soap Lake, Washington
Gilbert L. Lester
Gilbert L. Lester, 77, of Soap Lake, died Thursday, Nov. 26, 1998, in Wenatchee. He was a retired farmer and a longtime resident of Soap Lake. Survivors include two sons, Vern of Chelan and Bert of Wenatchee. Funeral services will be held at 10 a.m. Friday at Nicoles Funeral Home in Ephrata, Pastor Robert Deviney officiating. Burial will follow at the Odessa Cemetery. Arrangements are by Nicoles Funeral Home.
Children:

1. Vern Lee Lester of Chelan

2. Gilbert Leroy Lester of Wenatchee
   
2. James Lee Turner
B 22 Aug 1923 Tenino, Thurston County, Washington
D 11 Apr 1997, Soap Lake, Grant County, WA

3. Donald Dee Turner
B 17 Apr 1933 Grant Orchard, Washington
D 16 Dec 1963  Republic, Washington

Me thinks ::MonkeyEek::
There's TOO many alias'....I wonder how deep this will all go???
Feels and seems big, but it might just be me! ::MonkeyConfused::

I will research thru the day...in and out.

here is nancy H Lawless/nee Rowland married James H Lawless, father of george W Lawless, who is the father of CLL

Name: Nancy H. Rowland
Home in 1880: Glasgow Junction, Barren, Kentucky
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Birthplace: Kentucky
Relation to Head of Household: Daughter
Father's Name: George W.
Father's birthplace: Kentucky
Mother's Name: Martha E.
Mother's birthplace: Kentucky
Neighbors: View others on page 
Occupation: Helping Keep House
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Female
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane: View Image
Household Members: Name Age
George W. Rowland 54 
Martha E. Rowland 41 
Wm. Wade Rowland 20 
Jos. B. Rowland 19 
Lucy Rowland 17 
Nancy H. Rowland 15 
Minnie L. Rowland 12 
John C. Rowland 11 
James T. Rowland 9 
Judy T. Rowland 6 
Martha B. Rowland 4 
Genie P. Rowland 2 
Martin Sartain 26 
 

DoubleDeck!!!
I enjoy your posts!  Great Info.
I am new too! ::MonkeyDance::
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Sister number 2 :

Mabel Pearl Lawless
B 14 Feb 1891 Tecumsehm Johnson, New Brunswick, Canada
D 26 Nov 1959 Okanogan, Brewster, WA

Married

Leland Haley


Children:
Georgia Pearl Haley
B 1911 WA
D 1969 Okanogan, Brewster, WA

1st Marriage

Barney Sachse

   Children:
   Male Sachse

2nd Marriage 20 Oct 1928 Brewster, WA

Harry McCartney


Children :

Harry McCartney
Female McCartney

LOLLIS is coming up as an alternative spelling in my genealogy databases

Sorry, if someone has already responded to this.  I had posted it amidst the change to the new thread.

I was curious if Timothy Lawless had any children of his own.  If indeed, a son, is he also a pastor??? 

Thanks,

WELCOME TO THE NEW MONKEY'S...YOUR DOING A SUPER JOB. 
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1920 Census - James and son John Mack are gone.  Did Dad James take son John with him?

hmmm maybe he did, father james H lawless took John Mack with him


John make lawless ends up dying in los angeles california

the gary d lawless we are looking for was born about 1933. 
maybe we can find the obit to this john mack lawless and see if gary pops up as a son.  john mack would be about 31 when gary d is born.  gary's son's middle name is John(timothy john lawless)

let me go look more

Name: John M Lawless
Social Security #: ((edit - please do not post SS numbers) 
Sex: MALE 
Birth Date: 23 Nov 1894
Birthplace: Nebraska 
Death Date: 6 Feb 1965
Death Place: Los Angeles 
Mother's Maiden Name: Rowland 

WHOA

Dale Johnson?

making a note of this, just ran into it

middle name is john, and is in NAPA, where gary d lawless and marylin tieken(parents of timothy john lawless) were married.  probably not anyone as he is born in cali in 1864 and all the other lawless seem to be in washington, but just sticking this here for later.

he did die in napa 10 years after gary d lawless is born
hmmm wonder if gary d lawless was born in Napa?  he got married there.
Name: William John Lawless
Social Security #: 0 
Sex: MALE 
Birth Date: 21 Jun 1864
Birthplace: California 
Death Date: 16 Sep 1943
Death Place: Napa 
Mother's Maiden Name: Lully 
FATHER'S SURNAME: Lawless 

Lol, sorry could not resist, are you sure there was not a "check" next to idiot or insane?

Doubledecker, if you did not start out with that name, you would have earned it by post size alone :)

Everyone on here pat yourself on the back, this thread was started yesterday, that's amazing. I dont want to bust the groove until your ready, and then I have 2 more names to throw at you to compare addresses to what you have already. I'm seeing a pattern potentially.

You guys are awesome monkeys 
B

Afternoon all!

This is mind boggling and I'm not finding much.

I did find domain registration for Next Opportunity, Inc.  Do we already have this?  If not, which thread should I post it in.  It shows Tim Lawless and the Rancho Cordova address.  Also Godaddy.com

Nancy Hanse Rowland/Lawless is the daughter of

George Washington Rowland
B 1826 , KY
D 1890 Glasgow, Barron, KY
(George W Rowland was the postmaster of Burkesvillem, KY which is 7 miles from Glasgow on the Fallen Timber Creek)
and

Martha Emaline Bailey
B. 2 Apr 1839, Glasgow, Barren, KY
D Glasgow, Barron KY

George Washington Rowland and Martha Emaline Bailey had the following children:

 Mary Susan ROWLAND b: 1858 in ,Barron,KY
 Alice Hall ROWLAND b: 1858 in ,Barron,KY
 William Wade ROWLAND b: 1859 in ,Barron,KY
 Joseph B. ROWLAND b: 1861 in ,Barron,KY
 LUCY Ann ROWLAND b: 6 Sep 1863 in ,Barron,KY
 Nancy Hanse ROWLAND b: 5 Jan 1865 in Glasgow,Barron,KY
 Minnie Lee ROWLAND b: 1868 in ,Barron,KY
 John C. ROWLAND b: May 1869 in ,Barron,KY
 Grant ROWLAND b: 2 Jan 1870 in ,Barron,KY
 James T. ROWLAND b: 1871 in ,Barron,KY
 Judah I. ROWLAND b: 29 Aug 1873 in ,Barron,KY
 Martha Bell ROWLAND b: 1876 in ,Barron,KY
 Genie Pearl ROWLAND b: 1878 in ,Barron,KY
 Clement H. ROWLAND b: 1880 in ,Barron,KY

James H. Lawless left his family in Brewster, WA in 1918

he returns 20 years later in 1938
who knows where he was - prison?  remarried? (oh how nice, another family?)
He stays a few months, then leaves again

next heard about someone is requesting burial funds for him somewhere in Missouri in November of 1945

I believe yes, upthread.
B

UNCLE OF CCL
brother of george W. Lawless, father of CCL


1910 living with parents

1910 United States Federal Census
about Ralph D Lawless
Name: Ralph D Lawless
Age in 1910: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: James H W
Father's Birth Place: Indiana
Mother's Name: Nancy H
Mother's Birth Place: Kentucky
Home in 1910: Malaga, Chelan, Washington
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James H W Lawless 43
Nancy H Lawless 45
George W Lawless 17
John M Lawless 16
William B Lawless 12
Ralph D Lawless 8
Agnes A Lawless 6
Bardette Lawless 1/12

1920, with his MOTHER, father is gone as of 1918
Name: Ralph D Lawless
Home in 1920: Bodie, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 18 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Birth Place: Indiana
Mother's Name: Nancy W
Mother's Birth Place: Illinois
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Male
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 171
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Nancy W Lawless 54
George W Lawless 27
William B Lawless 22
Ralph D Lawless 18  
Agnes A Lawless 15
Richard D Lawless 9
Mabel P Heley 28 this is mabel lawless married HALEY
Georgie P Heley 8






1930 is living with another family
Ralph D Lawless
Home in 1930: Brewster, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head of House: Lodger  
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ben Buob 35
Ralph D Lawless 28
John F Dougherty 48
William M Ginn 55
Marshall J C Andrews 50
Minnie Andrews 49
Theo L Pederson 24

Dale Johnson? I think that name is in my memory bank somewhere, lol.  Is he the pastor in Washington state? Yikes, even more and more confused by the minute....

The Herald Reporter - Jun 9, 1960
Members of Den 4 of Brewster Cub Scouts, accompanied by their leader, Mrs Dick Lawless, and Mrs. Scott Hull, wet up Paradise Hill on Saturday to have a picnic for their last meetingof the school year.

They ate luch at the old mill site and enjoyed swimming at a small pond there.

scouts attending were Terry Shenyer, Joel Kirk, Brad Hull, Gerald Lawless, Lonnie Sheets, Dennis Cruden, Ted Goehry ad Bobby Crossland.

Others going were Dale Crossland, Gil Gamble, Harvey Hull, Carleen, Johnnie and Nancy Lawless

The Herald Reporter - Aug 12, 1976

50 years ago - that would be 1926, but the cars are 1936 modes hmmmm

Dick Lawless reported the sale of two new 1936 four door Dodge touring Sedans.  Deliveries were made to J.J. Stuttler ad Roy H. Plemons last weekend

I have hit a brick wall with John Mack Lawless.

No obituary, no divorce, no cemetery listing nothing. No mention of him whatsoever

I am moving on to the next sibling.  If I have missed something about in posted that may help me please let me know.

William Bryan Lawless
B 31 Aug 1897 New Brunsiwick Canada
D 15 Aug 1975 Okanogan, Brewster WA

Married

Gladys Thayer
B 1898 Brewster, Okanogan, WA
Before 1978

Children:
William Lawless


The Herald Reporter - Feb 18, 1960
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=EnYMAAAAIBAJ&sjid=nWUDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6213,77122&dq=gladys-lawless


Ruth B Thayer, Gladys Mother’s Obit:
Note – mentions grandson “Bill”
Quad-City Herald - Feb 9, 1978
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=0kkMAAAAIBAJ&sjid=eGMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5158,745743&dq=gladys-lawless

Is there a possibility his name could be John Mic Lawless?  Because I found one in Kentucky-deceased--was 85 years old.  I can post if you want.

Actually, here's the info:

LAWLESS, JOHN MIC
LAWLESS, JOHN M
LAWLESS, JOHN
Deceased
(DOB: 06/1921)
(DOD: 05/12/2006)
 (Age at Death:84) 
2826 ELEANOR AVE 1
LOUISVILLE, KY 40205-2938
JEFFERSON COUNTY
(01/1957-Current) 
502-Edit-no phone numbers please
 
 

I do not think that is the right one.  The one that is related died in California.

John Mack Lawless
B 23 Nov 1893, York, New Brunswick, Canada
D 6 Feb 1965, Los Angeles, California

This has to be the "Grandson Bill" that is mentioned In Ruth Thayer's obit. 

Quad-City Herald - Jun 16, 1983
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=BZENAAAAIBAJ&sjid=kmMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4814,568356&dq=bill-lawless+brewster

If you google "John Mack Lawless" in quotes, you'll come up with a hit for an obituary from the Herald Reporter in Washington.  I can't get the image because I'm not a member, but it appears the obituary contains the following information:

Publication Title: The Herald Reporter
Successor: The Herald Reporter
Content Source: SmallTownPapers, Inc.
Country: USA
State: Washington
Town: Brewster
Zip Code: 98812
Start Date Year: 1902
Year: 1966
Month: March
Day: 17
Page Number: 8
Original data from:SmallTownPapers® Collection

Here's the link if anyone has access.  http://www.footnote.com/document/65092106/

If no one has access, let me know and I'll join and buy it.  Call it "taking one for the team" but one not nearly as courageous as Wyks. . .

Another article about Bill Lawless and his wife Carleen. They were at the Johnson house.

Quad-City Herald - Dec 25, 1986
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=EJoMAAAAIBAJ&sjid=5WUDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2658,976981&dq=bill-lawless+brewster

I also found this on ancestry.com

John Mack Lawless
Birth: 23 Nov 1893 - York, York, New Brunswick, Canada

Death: 6 Feb 1965 - California, USA

That is the right one.  We just have a gap of about 20 years from when he leaves his parents house and dies in Los Angeles.

Carleen A Lawless, wife of Grandson Bill Lawless.

Carleen A Lawless Age 54, Brewster, WA
Carlee Lawless
Carlee A Lawless
Carleen Lawless
Carlee Michael
Carleen Michael
Carleen A Michael
Carleen A Shepard
Carleen Sheperd

I really apologize for the successive posts.  If you guys rather me wait until I get all my info together, let me know and I will.  I just dip in and out during the course of the workday so I post the info as I retrieve it.

Anyway, take a look at this link:

http://records.ancestry.com/Nancy%20Roland_records.ashx?pid=38663107

It's on ancestry.com, and suggests a relationship with Nancy Roland, George Washington Roland (George Lawless?), and a host of Lawlesses. 

actually it helps if you just keep posting whatever you find, as you find it
this way if I see something I recognize in there I know what it goes with and can post it, that gives us all help linking this together.  that's my opinion anyway. ::MonkeyCool::

somehow in the 2 posts above I posted in someone elses writing and so here is the info again


he's popping up in my data bases as :

Name: John M Lawless
Social Security #: ((edit - please do not post SS numbers))Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 23 Nov 1894
Birthplace: Nebraska
Death Date: 6 Feb 1965
Death Place: Los Angeles
Mother's Maiden Name: Rowland

Is anyone a member of ancestry.com?  There seems to be a lot of info on the "right" John Mack Lawless. If no one is a member, I'm thinking of joining it.

John Mack Lawless
Smeltzer Family Tree
 Includes:
CitationsBirth:  dd mm 1893 - city, York, Nebraska, USA
Death:  date - California, USA
Parents:  name surname, name surname

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I totally agree.  I read as I post and am hoping that an AHA! moment will come that will connect Gary D to this clan.  The more info we can post the more likely we will find the right bread crumb that will lead us to the Lawless bakery!

Yup this is the right one! So the million dollar question is where does he go for abt 25 years after he leaves the house and does he take his son with him?  There is a huge gap with absolutely nothing until he dies in LA.  When does he get to LA?  Why does he go to LA?   This can be so frustrating at times.....

No I am not.  I think you can get census and other stuff there as well. I would be careful about pulling info from trees that other people have posted.  If they did not do the correct research then the tree is wrong.  Something I have found out from experience for going genealogy for a lot of years.  If you can not find the census, birth, or death certs take the member submitted trees with a grain of salt.  JMO

I might join and check it out.  The links it says are available are apparently from death records and census records dating back to the early 1900's.  Might be hype, but it's probably worth a few bucks to check it out.  Unfortunately, my legal database isn't pulling anything more than what we already know, which is very odd.

I'm a member