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Title: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 27, 2009, 06:16:45 PM
Starting this thread because at blinkoncrime.com we are approaching 300 comments on this topic, and the info is coming rapid fire, I will try to bring over as much as I can.

Article and comments:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/04/24/sandra-cantu-case-sources-lawless-relative-arrested-on-sex-charges/

Blink


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 27, 2009, 06:28:05 PM
Brother of Timothy Lawless

Case Information Case Number: NCR79526 butte county, ca
Case Title: PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, JEFFREY CARL
Case Type: D.U.I.
Filing Date: 06/29/98
Disposition Date: 12/03/98
CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO & SENTENCED

Parties Name Type Attorney
LAWLESS, JEFFREY CARL DEFENDANT VANDERVOORT, J JOSEPH
Charges Count Filing Document Degree Charge
00 CIT ASF ADMIN SCREENING FEE

Plea:
Plea Date:
Disposition:

Sentence:

00 CIT Misdemeanor (A) 1202.4 PC RESTITUTION FINE

Plea:
Plea Date:
Disposition:

Sentence:

00 Misdemeanor (A) 1214.1(a) PC CIVIL ASSESSMENTS

Plea:
Plea Date:
Disposition:

Sentence:

01 CIT Misdemeanor (C) 23152(a) CVC DRIVING UNDER INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL/DRUGS

Plea: NG
Plea Date: 08/04/98
Disposition: 12/03/98
CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO
Sentence: 12/03/98
SUMMARY PROBN 36 MO;48 HRS BCJ-REPORT
1-8-99 8PM;$1248+$100+$24+$35 IN MONTHLY
PMTS OF $75;LEVEL I DUI SCHOOL
02 CIT Infraction (T) 16028)(a) CVC NO INSURANCE

Plea: NG
Plea Date: 08/04/98
Disposition: 12/03/98
DISMISSED
Sentence:

03 CIT Infraction (T) 21657 CVC ONE-WAY TRAFFIC AND OFF-CENTER LANES

Plea: NG
Plea Date: 08/04/98
Disposition: 12/03/98
DISMISSED
Sentence:

04 CIT Infraction (T) 14601.1(a) CVC DRIVING WHILE SUSPENDED OR REVOKED

Plea: NG
Plea Date: 08/04/98
Disposition: 12/03/98
DISMISSED
Sentence:

Actions Date Action Description
03/07/00 ABST TO DMV - FTP (DE3) LICENSE SUSPENDED
02/14/00 NTC: CIVIL ASSESSMENT ADDED-NO ADDRESS
$1433
01/13/00 NTC: TICKLER: 10-DAY NOTICE
$750 APRIL-JAN’00 PMTS
01/06/00 NTC: TICKLER: 10-DAY NOTICE
$750 APRIL-JAN’00 PMTS
01/26/99 ABST TO DMV - CONVICTION (DE1)
09/08/98 MOTION TO WITHDRAW AS ATTORNEY OF RECORD
08/04/98 WAIVER OF DEFT’S PERSONAL PRESENCE 977 PC
08/04/98 STIPULATION FOR COMMISSIONER TO SIT AS
JUDGE PRO TEM
06/29/98 CITATION FILED BY CPD 98-4576 OFFICER 1295
06/29/98 O/R AGREEMENT SIGNED BY DEFT

Events Date Time Event Description Dept Code Department/Judge
12/03/98 13:30 DISPOSITION SETTING

Disposition Date: 12/03/98
PLED NOLO; WAIVED TIME, SENTENCED CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
10/22/98 13:00 DISPOSITION/SETTING
DEFT ORDERED PERSONALLY PRESENT

Disposition Date: 10/22/98
CONT FOR DISPO SET CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
09/28/98 08:00 JURY TRIAL - MUNI CT CRIM/TRAFFIC

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
VACATED C11 HON WILLIAM O SCOTT; COMMISSIONER
09/24/98 13:00 TRIAL READINESS
AND MOTION TO W/DRAW AS ATTY OF RECORD
JT SET FOR 9-28-98

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
TRIAL DATE VACATED; CONT FOR SETTING CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
09/24/98 00:00 MTN: TO WITHDRAW AS ATTORNEY OF RECORD

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
WITHDRAWN CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
08/27/98 10:00 PRETRIAL CONFERENCE

Disposition Date: 08/27/98
TRIAL DATE SET C06 HON DARRELL STEVENS; JUDGE
08/04/98 08:30 ARRAIGNMENT

Disposition Date: 08/04/98
PLED NOT GLTY BY ATTY;T/W;SET FOR P/T

Case Information Case Number:   NCR79526 butte county, ca
Case Title:   PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, JEFFREY CARL
Case Type:   D.U.I.
Filing Date:   06/29/98
Disposition Date:   12/03/98
   CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO & SENTENCED
 
Parties Name   Type   Attorney
LAWLESS, JEFFREY CARL    DEFENDANT    VANDERVOORT, J JOSEPH
   Charges    Count   Filing Document   Degree   Charge   
   00   CIT      ASF       ADMIN SCREENING FEE   
                  
      Plea:            
      Plea Date:            
      Disposition:            
                  
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
   00   CIT   Misdemeanor (A)   1202.4    PC   RESTITUTION FINE   
                  
      Plea:            
      Plea Date:            
      Disposition:            
                  
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
   00      Misdemeanor (A)   1214.1(a)    PC   CIVIL ASSESSMENTS   
                  
      Plea:            
      Plea Date:            
      Disposition:            
                  
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
   01   CIT   Misdemeanor (C)   23152(a)    CVC   DRIVING UNDER INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL/DRUGS   
                  
      Plea:   NG         
      Plea Date:   08/04/98         
      Disposition:   12/03/98         
         CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO          
      Sentence:   12/03/98         
         SUMMARY PROBN 36 MO;48 HRS BCJ-REPORT         
         1-8-99 8PM;$1248+$100+$24+$35 IN MONTHLY         
         PMTS OF $75;LEVEL I DUI SCHOOL         
   02   CIT   Infraction (T)   16028)(a)    CVC   NO INSURANCE   
                  
      Plea:   NG         
      Plea Date:   08/04/98         
      Disposition:   12/03/98         
         DISMISSED          
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
   03   CIT   Infraction (T)   21657    CVC   ONE-WAY TRAFFIC AND OFF-CENTER LANES   
                  
      Plea:   NG         
      Plea Date:   08/04/98         
      Disposition:   12/03/98         
         DISMISSED          
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
   04   CIT   Infraction (T)   14601.1(a)    CVC   DRIVING WHILE SUSPENDED OR REVOKED   
                  
      Plea:   NG         
      Plea Date:   08/04/98         
      Disposition:   12/03/98         
         DISMISSED          
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
 
Actions Date   Action Description
03/07/00   ABST TO DMV - FTP (DE3) LICENSE SUSPENDED
02/14/00   NTC: CIVIL ASSESSMENT ADDED-NO ADDRESS
  $1433
01/13/00   NTC: TICKLER: 10-DAY NOTICE
  $750 APRIL-JAN'00 PMTS
01/06/00   NTC: TICKLER: 10-DAY NOTICE
  $750 APRIL-JAN'00 PMTS
01/26/99   ABST TO DMV - CONVICTION (DE1)
09/08/98   MOTION TO WITHDRAW AS ATTORNEY OF RECORD
08/04/98   WAIVER OF DEFT'S PERSONAL PRESENCE 977 PC
08/04/98   STIPULATION FOR COMMISSIONER TO SIT AS
  JUDGE PRO TEM
06/29/98   CITATION FILED BY CPD 98-4576 OFFICER 1295
06/29/98   O/R AGREEMENT SIGNED BY DEFT
 
Events Date   Time   Event Description   Dept Code   Department/Judge
12/03/98   13:30   DISPOSITION SETTING

Disposition Date: 12/03/98
PLED NOLO; WAIVED TIME, SENTENCED   CSM   HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
10/22/98   13:00   DISPOSITION/SETTING
  DEFT ORDERED PERSONALLY PRESENT

Disposition Date: 10/22/98
CONT FOR DISPO SET   CSM   HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
09/28/98   08:00   JURY TRIAL - MUNI CT CRIM/TRAFFIC

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
VACATED   C11   HON WILLIAM O SCOTT; COMMISSIONER
09/24/98   13:00   TRIAL READINESS
  AND MOTION TO W/DRAW AS ATTY OF RECORD
  JT SET FOR 9-28-98

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
TRIAL DATE VACATED; CONT FOR SETTING   CSM   HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
09/24/98   00:00   MTN: TO WITHDRAW AS ATTORNEY OF RECORD

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
WITHDRAWN   CSM   HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
08/27/98   10:00   PRETRIAL CONFERENCE

Disposition Date: 08/27/98
TRIAL DATE SET   C06   HON DARRELL STEVENS; JUDGE
08/04/98   08:30   ARRAIGNMENT

Disposition Date: 08/04/98
PLED NOT GLTY BY ATTY;T/W;SET FOR P/T


doubledecker
Submitted on 2009/04/27 at 4:12pm
Case Information Case Number: NT016910 butte county, ca
Case Title: PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, JEFFREY
Case Type: REGISTRATION
Filing Date: 09/30/97
Disposition Date: 07/24/98
BAIL PAID/FORFEIT AFTER FTA - CONV

Parties Name Type Attorney
LAWLESS, JEFFREY DEFENDANT
Charges Count Filing Document Degree Charge
01 CIT Infraction (T) 4000(a) CVC REGISTRATION REQUIRED

Plea:
Plea Date:
Disposition: 07/24/98
BAIL PAID/FORFEITED (CONVICTION)
Sentence:

02 CIT Infraction (T) 26708(a) CVC RESTRICTED VIEW - SIGN, STICKERS, ETC.

Plea:
Plea Date:
Disposition: 07/24/98
BAIL PAID/FORFEITED (CONVICTION)
Sentence:

Actions Date Action Description
06/29/98 RELEASE TO DMV - FTA (DE2)
PIF GCSV/ALHAMBRA 5-28-98 CK
04/01/98 ABST TO DMV - FTA (DE5) LICENSE HOLD

Events Date Time Event Description Dept Code Department/Judge
10/29/97 08:00 TRAFFIC ARRAIGNMENT - APPEAR/POST BAIL
BAIL + FTA AMT = $389 AS OF 11/26/97

Disposition Date: 03/26/98
REFERRED TO GC SERVICES

Case Information Case Number:   NT016910  butte county, ca
Case Title:   PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, JEFFREY
Case Type:   REGISTRATION
Filing Date:   09/30/97
Disposition Date:   07/24/98
   BAIL PAID/FORFEIT AFTER FTA - CONV
 
Parties Name   Type   Attorney
LAWLESS, JEFFREY    DEFENDANT    
   Charges    Count   Filing Document   Degree   Charge   
   01   CIT   Infraction (T)   4000(a)    CVC   REGISTRATION REQUIRED   
                  
      Plea:            
      Plea Date:            
      Disposition:   07/24/98         
         BAIL PAID/FORFEITED (CONVICTION)          
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
   02   CIT   Infraction (T)   26708(a)    CVC   RESTRICTED VIEW - SIGN, STICKERS, ETC.   
                  
      Plea:            
      Plea Date:            
      Disposition:   07/24/98         
         BAIL PAID/FORFEITED (CONVICTION)          
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
 
Actions Date   Action Description
06/29/98   RELEASE TO DMV - FTA (DE2)
  PIF GCSV/ALHAMBRA 5-28-98 CK
04/01/98   ABST TO DMV - FTA (DE5) LICENSE HOLD
 
Events Date   Time   Event Description   Dept Code   Department/Judge
10/29/97   08:00   TRAFFIC ARRAIGNMENT - APPEAR/POST BAIL
  BAIL + FTA AMT = $389 AS OF 11/26/97

Disposition Date: 03/26/98
REFERRED TO GC SERVICES
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 27, 2009, 06:31:44 PM
Posted by doubledecker at blinkoncrime.com
this is the mother and the two brothers, or the mother, one brother jeffrey Carl Lawless/ Gomes and the father.

father and one brother are both named gary d lawless.

mother is marylin, she would be over 70 yrs old now. seems must be some kind of family dispute. I know they are on a lot of land deeds back and forth, not sure what they were doing, but also a lot of tax liens.

I have many court docs for deeds, liens, child support, and arrests for traffic, dui’s, drugs, warrants and top of warrants etc. and of course the one for gary d lawless(brother or father) for failing to register as a sex offender in 2002.

CASE NUMBER:
FL35509
CASE TITLE:
LAWLESS VS. GOMES
CASE DESCRIPTION:
***DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
FILING DATE:
03/17/1993
DISPOSITION DESCRIPTION:
DISMISSED
DISPOSITION DATE:
04/12/1993

PARTIES
PARTY NAME RELATIONSHIP ATTORNEY NAME

LAWLESS, GARY D.
PLAINTIFF PRO PER

GOMES, JEFF C.
DEFENDANT N/A

GOMES, MARILYN E.
DEFENDANT N/A

EVENTS
DATE TIME DESCRIPTION DISPOSITION

04/05/1993 1:45PM OSC RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TRO CONT TO 04/12/93 BY COURT

04/12/1993 1:45PM OSC RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TRO GRANTED

ACTIONS
DATE DESCRIPTION

03/17/1993 OSC & TRO RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE

03/29/1993 PROOF OF SERVICE

03/29/1993 PROOF OF SERVICE TO JEFF C. GOMES

this is the mother and the two brothers, or the mother, one brother jeffrey Carl Lawless/ Gomes and the father.

father and one brother are both named gary d lawless. 

mother is marylin, she would be over 70 yrs old now.  seems must be some kind of family dispute.  I know they are on a lot of land deeds back and forth, not sure what they were doing, but also a lot of tax liens. 

I have many court docs for deeds, liens, child support, and arrests for traffic, dui's, drugs, warrants and top of warrants etc.  and of course the one for gary d lawless(brother or father) for failing to register as a sex offender in 2002. 

CASE NUMBER:   
FL35509
CASE TITLE:   
LAWLESS  VS.  GOMES
CASE DESCRIPTION:   
***DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
FILING DATE:   
03/17/1993
DISPOSITION DESCRIPTION:   
DISMISSED
DISPOSITION DATE:   
04/12/1993

PARTIES
PARTY NAME   RELATIONSHIP   ATTORNEY NAME
 

LAWLESS, GARY D.
PLAINTIFF    PRO PER
 

GOMES, JEFF C.
DEFENDANT    N/A
 

GOMES, MARILYN E.
DEFENDANT    N/A
 


EVENTS
DATE   TIME   DESCRIPTION   DISPOSITION
 

04/05/1993    1:45PM    OSC RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TRO    CONT TO 04/12/93 BY COURT
 

04/12/1993    1:45PM    OSC RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TRO    GRANTED
 


ACTIONS
DATE   DESCRIPTION
 

03/17/1993    OSC & TRO RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
 

03/29/1993    PROOF OF SERVICE
 

03/29/1993    PROOF OF SERVICE TO JEFF C. GOMES

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Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Rob on April 27, 2009, 06:32:16 PM
Blink, I'm not sure what's going on here, but I do see many people with multiple names. THAT'S ALWAYS TROUBLE.

Unraveling all these names is gonna be difficult for internet posters and even the FBI.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Rob on April 27, 2009, 06:34:54 PM
Blink I think you accidentally posted Doubledecker's IP address. I believe it was in post two.

Please give that a looksee and will a Mod delete this post.

TIA

Edit:  Thanks Rob, I deleted it


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 27, 2009, 06:39:13 PM
I’m just pulling this one out by itself(from above) so it is easy to reference

failing to register as a sex offender charge for gary d lawless

the PC 290 is failer to register as a sex offender.

butte county ca
PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, GARY
CRIMINAL
06/13/02
12/17/02

01 COM Misdemeanor (A)290(g)(1) PC FAILURE TO REGISTER

Plea: NC
Plea Date: 12/17/02
Disposition: 12/17/02
CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO
Sentence: 12/17/02
FORMAL PROBN 36 MTHS; JAIL 30 DAYS;
11590 H&S; SRCH

I'm just pulling this one out by itself(from above) so it is easy to reference

failing to register as a sex offender charge for gary d lawless

the PC 290 is failer to register as a sex offender.


butte county ca
PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, GARY
CRIMINAL
06/13/02
12/17/02

01   COM   Misdemeanor (A)290(g)(1)    PC   FAILURE TO REGISTER
      
   Plea:   NC
   Plea Date:   12/17/02
   Disposition:   12/17/02
      CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO
   Sentence:   12/17/02
      FORMAL PROBN 36 MTHS; JAIL 30 DAYS;
      11590 H&S; SRCH

doubledecker
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Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 27, 2009, 06:42:06 PM
Blink here is what I gathered on the whole Famdangaly.  The DOB's will help with determinign who is father and who is son.  It also lists other possible alias, as they go between Mom's maiden and married names:

Lawless
Short
Tieken, and
Gomes

Name: Timothy J Lawless
Birth Date: 11 Dec 1964
Gender: Male
Mother's Maiden Name: Tieken
Birth County: Glenn


brother
Name: Gary D Lawless
Birth Date: 7 Apr 1966
Gender: Male
Mother's Maiden Name: Tieken
Birth County: Napa


brother
Name: Jeffrey C Lawless
Birth Date: 21 Nov 1967
Gender: Male
Mother's Maiden Name: Tieken
Birth County: Napa


Mother of all boys above
Name: Marylin Elizabeth Tieken
Birth Date: 20 Mar 1937
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Forman
Birth County: Napa

Mother married Gary D Lawless AFTER all boys above were born
Name: Marylin E Tieken
Age: 30
Est. Birth: abt 1938
Spouse Name: Gary D Lawless
Spouse Age: 35
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1933
Date: 6 Jun 1968
Location: Napa


Mother divorces Gary D Lawless a month After she married himcaifornia divorce
Name: Marylin E Ticken
Spouse Name: Gary D Lawless
Location: Napa
Date: Jul 1968

Mother is also married to Gary D Lawless using the last name of SHORT, on the very same day she married him under the last name if Tieken


Name: Gary D Lawless
Age: 35
Est. Birth: abt 1933
Spouse Name: Marylin E Short
Spouse Age: 30
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1938
Date: 6 Jun 1968
Location: Napa


Mother then marries Manuel Gomes
Name: Marylin E Tieken
Age: 36
Est. Birth: abt 1937
Spouse Name: Manuel Gomes
Spouse Age: 44
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1929
Date: 30 Oct 1973
Location: Solano

I found no divorce for marilyn and manuel gomes


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: cece on April 27, 2009, 06:58:39 PM
Wow, I just caught up on all the comments on your original post about the Timothy Lawless, MH connection. 

Doubledecker seems to have a lot of info on these two families. 

I just have to comend you for all your hard work.  I don't know where you get the energy to do it.  But I'm sure I'm not the only one that appreciates what you bring to us to help connect the dots.  Thank you.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 27, 2009, 07:05:18 PM
Rob-

LOL, I got the bat message to Klaasend, thank you, and here I thought I was being so careful when pulling it.. yeesh. TY Klaas

Lone Monkey, thanks.  As Rob pointed out, there is so much going on here, names, backgrounds, SO's. This, combined with some of the comments I am seeing that DO NOT GET POSTED, makes me think we are on the cusp of "more". Ugh.

Blink


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: twinkiesmom on April 27, 2009, 07:37:53 PM
Is there any connection between this missing child and this case?  I think the girl pictured in the younger PE facebook looks a lot like this missing child.  Young PE may be related to her making the connection innocent.  I was hesitant to post it but this link indicates she may be in southern CA (alleged parental abduction from MN).

http://dojapp.doj.ca.gov/missing/detail.asp?FCN=1860906200131


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 27, 2009, 07:39:01 PM
I found a newspaper article from Brewster with a picture and name of John Lawless but it is a High School Homecoming thing and i think he would have been only 12 yr at the time not to mention this one is going by john instead of Timothy. ???????

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=r0MMAAAAIBAJ&sjid=RWMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2417,2038463&dq=john-lawless



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: cece on April 27, 2009, 08:04:29 PM
Is there any connection between this missing child and this case?  I think the girl pictured in the younger PE facebook looks a lot like this missing child.  Young PE may be related to her making the connection innocent.  I was hesitant to post it but this link indicates she may be in southern CA (alleged parental abduction from MN).

http://dojapp.doj.ca.gov/missing/detail.asp?FCN=1860906200131

Wow, twinkiesmom.  I'm not good at this, but I'm sure someone here can pull up the picture of PE with a little girl, & this one & put them side by side for comparison.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: cece on April 27, 2009, 08:24:15 PM
Here is the link again of PE facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/people/Philip-Espinosa/1356296112

And here is the link for the missing little girl: (Maya Marisol Espinosa)

http://dojapp.doj.ca.gov/missing/detail.asp?FCN=1860906200131


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 27, 2009, 08:26:59 PM
Case Information  Case Number: CM017360
Case Title: PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, GARY 
Case Type: CRIMINAL
Filing Date: 06/13/02
Disposition Date: 12/17/02
 CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO & SENTENCED



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Parties  Name Type Attorney
LAWLESS, GARY  DEFENDANT  KING, STEPHEN 
   In Custody? Y/N: N   Status: WARRNT
   Charges   Count Filing Document Degree Charge 
 00 CIT Misdemeanor (A) 1203.2(a)    PC VOP: FTA ON PTN, 10/20/03; PRB REVOKED 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 
     
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 00  Misdemeanor (A) 1202.4    PC RESTITUTION FINE 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 12/17/02
   P/PLAN 
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 00  Misdemeanor (A) SUPERVISION FEE    PC PROBATION SUPERVISION FEES 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 12/17/02
   P/PLAN 
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 00  Misdemeanor (A) 1203.2(a)    PC VIOLATION OF PROB -PETN FILED 10-1-03 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 
     
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 01 COM Misdemeanor (A) 290(g)(1)    PC FAILURE TO REGISTER 

  Plea: NC
  Plea Date: 12/17/02
  Disposition: 12/17/02
   CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO 
  Sentence: 12/17/02
   FORMAL PROBN 36 MTHS; JAIL 30 DAYS;
   11590 H&S; SRCH
   
 02 COM Misdemeanor (C) 23152(a)    CVC DUI ALCOHOL/DRUGS W PRIOR 

  Plea: NC
  Plea Date: 12/17/02
  Disposition: 12/17/02
   CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO; PRIOR ADM 
  Sentence: 12/17/02
   CONDITIONAL/REVOCABLE RELEASE 60MOS/
   JAIL 14 DYS;
   
 03 COM Misdemeanor (C) 23152(b)    CVC DRIVING W/.08% OR GREATER BLOOD ALCOHOL 

  Plea: NG
  Plea Date: 07/23/02
  Disposition: 12/17/02
   DISMISSED 
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 04 COM Misdemeanor (A) 148(a)(1)    PC RESIST, OBSTRUCT, DELAY PEACE OFFICER 

  Plea: NC
  Plea Date: 12/17/02
  Disposition: 12/17/02
   CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO 
  Sentence: 12/17/02
   SEE COUNT 2 FOR SENTENCE
   
   
Warrants   Issue Date Bail Amount Disposition Date Disposition Description
 11/17/03 $5,000.00       




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Actions  Date Action Description
11/17/03 WARRANT ISSUED TO OPD

 
10/01/03 PET FOR HEARING RE: V.O.P.

 
07/09/03 ORDER GRANTING FORMAL PROBATION SIGNED & FILED
  AMENDED

 
01/17/03 NTC: NTC OF RESCHEDULING
  PROBATION REVIEW

 
12/17/02 PAYMENT AGREEMENT FILED

 
12/17/02 ADVISEMENT OF RIGHTS, WAIVER & PLEA FORM

 
12/17/02 ORDER GRANTING FORMAL PROBATION SIGNED & FILED

 
12/17/02 ORDER GRANTING SUMMARY PROBATION

 
06/19/02 NTC: ARRAIGNMENT
  290(a)(1)(A)PC 23152(a)CVC 23152(b)CVC

 
06/13/02 COMPLAINT FILED BY DDA L. PASSMORE
  OPD 02-1827

 
05/09/02 BAIL BOND: SENECA INSURANCE; BEAR BB
  S10-00513046 $10000

 



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Events  Date Time Event Description Dept Code Department/Judge
01/26/04 09:30 CUSTODY STATUS
  DEFT MIGHT BE IN CUSTODY IN ALAMEDA
  COUNTY

Disposition Date: 01/26/04
OFF-CALENDAR; WARRANT TO REMAIN ACTIVE

 B12 HON. ROBERT A GLUSMAN; JUDGE
10/20/03 08:30 PET RE VIOLATION OF PROBATION

Disposition Date: 10/20/03
FTA; PROB RVKD; B/W ORD; BAIL SET $5000

 B12 HON. ROBERT A GLUSMAN; JUDGE
03/17/03 09:30 PROBATION REVIEW

Disposition Date: 03/17/03
PROBATION CONTINUED

 B12 HON. ROBERT A GLUSMAN; JUDGE
03/15/03 09:30 PROBATION REVIEW

Disposition Date: 01/17/03
ADVANCED TO 3/18/03

 B12 HON. ROBERT A GLUSMAN; JUDGE
12/17/02 09:30 MTN: REDUCE FELONY TO MISD

Disposition Date: 12/17/02
GRANTED

 B12 HON. ROBERT A GLUSMAN; JUDGE
12/17/02 09:30 PRELIMINARY HEARING

Disposition Date: 12/17/02
PLED NOLO; WAIVED TIME, SENTENCED

 B12 HON. ROBERT A GLUSMAN; JUDGE
11/19/02 09:30 PRELIMINARY HEARING

Disposition Date: 11/19/02
CONTINUED TO 12/17/02

 B12 HON. ROBERT A GLUSMAN; JUDGE
10/15/02 14:01 PRELIMINARY HEARING

Disposition Date: 10/15/02
CONTINUED TO 11/19/02

 B12 HON. ROBERT A GLUSMAN; JUDGE
10/08/02 09:30 PRELIMINARY HEARING

Disposition Date: 10/08/02
OFF-CAL.; CAL. ON THIS DATE IN ERROR

 B12 HON. ROBERT A GLUSMAN; JUDGE
09/10/02 09:30 PRELIMINARY HEARING

Disposition Date: 09/10/02
CONTINUED FOR SAME EVENT

 BL1 HON. WILLIAM LAMB; ASSIGNED JUDGE
08/13/02 09:30 PRELIMINARY HEARING

Disposition Date: 08/13/02
CONTINUED TO 9/10/02

 BL1 HON. WILLIAM LAMB; ASSIGNED JUDGE
07/23/02 09:30 FUR ARRAIGNMT -ENTRY OF PLEA, APP OF CSL

Disposition Date: 07/23/02
ARRAIGNED; PD APPTD PLED N/G

 BL1 HON. WILLIAM LAMB; ASSIGNED JUDGE
07/02/02 09:30 ARRAIGNMENT
  290(a)(1)(A)PC 23152(a)CVC 23152(b)CVC

Disposition Date: 07/02/02
ARRAIGNED TO RETAIN COUNSEL

 BL1 HON. WILLIAM LAMB; ASSIGNED JUDGE


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 27, 2009, 08:30:46 PM
Case Information  Case Number: NCR70659
Case Title: PEOPLE vs. GOMES, JEFF CARL 
Case Type: CRIMINAL
Filing Date: 03/19/96
Disposition Date: 12/03/98
 ALL CHARGES DISMISSED



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Parties  Name Type Attorney
GOMES, JEFF CARL  DEFENDANT  VANDERVOORT, J JOSEPH 
   In Custody? Y/N: N   Status: 
 AKA - ALSO KNOWN AS: LAWLESS, JEFF 
   Charges   Count Filing Document Degree Charge 
 01 COM Misdemeanor (A) 242    PC BATTERY 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 12/03/98
   DISMISSED 
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 02 COM Misdemeanor (A) 1320(a)-042496    PC FAILURE TO APPEAR - RELEASED ON O/R 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 12/03/98
   DISMISSED 
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 03 COM Misdemeanor (A) 853.7--7/14/98    PC FAILURE TO APPEAR ON A CITATION 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 12/03/98
   DISMISSED 
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
Warrants   Issue Date Bail Amount Disposition Date Disposition Description
 04/24/96 $5,000.00      06/28/98 WARRANT SERVED
 07/15/98 $8,000.00      09/24/98 WARRANT RECALLED




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Actions  Date Action Description
09/25/98 WARRANT RETURNED & FILED

 
09/24/98 ARREST WARRANT RECALLED

 
07/15/98 WARRANT ISSUED TO CPD
  COMMISSIONER SCOTT

 
07/14/98 COMPLAINT FILED IN MUNI CT BY CLERK
  853.7 PC

 
06/29/98 WARRANT RETURNED & FILED

 
06/28/98 O/R AGREEMENT SIGNED BY DEFT

 
10/06/96 CONVERTED FROM CHICO COURT SYSTEM

 



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Events  Date Time Event Description Dept Code Department/Judge
12/03/98 13:30 ENTRY OF PLEA

Disposition Date: 12/03/98
DISMISSED

 CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
10/22/98 13:00 ARRAIGNMENT ON FTA / ENTRY OF PLEA
  UNDERLYING & TWO FTAs
  ** DEFT ORDERED PERSONALLY PRESENT **

Disposition Date: 10/22/98
CONT FOR EPO/DISPO

 CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
09/24/98 13:20 ARRAIGNMENT ON FTA (NON VOP)
  UNDERLYING AND 2 FTA'S

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
HELD; CONT FOR SAME

 CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
07/14/98 08:30 ARRAIGNMENT ON FTA (NON VOP)

Disposition Date: 07/14/98
B/W ORDERED ISSUED; 853.7 PC; $8000

 C06 HON DARRELL STEVENS; JUDGE
04/29/96 08:00 JURY TRIAL - MUNI CT CR/TRF (CNV)
  242 PC ATTY: KING

Disposition Date: 04/29/96
CONVERSION DISP

 N2 
04/24/96 10:00 TRIAL READINESS (CNV)
  242 PC ATTY: KING

Disposition Date: 04/24/96
CONVERSION DISP

 NCR 
04/10/96 10:00 ENTRY OF PLEA (CNV)
  242 PC

Disposition Date: 04/10/96
CONVERSION DISP

 NCR 
03/19/96 08:30 FIRST APPEARANCE
  KING

Disposition Date: 10/06/96
CONVERSION DISP
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 27, 2009, 08:31:31 PM
Case Information  Case Number: NT016910
Case Title: PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, JEFFREY 
Case Type: REGISTRATION
Filing Date: 09/30/97
Disposition Date: 07/24/98
 BAIL PAID/FORFEIT AFTER FTA - CONV



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Parties  Name Type Attorney
LAWLESS, JEFFREY  DEFENDANT   
   Charges   Count Filing Document Degree Charge 
 01 CIT Infraction (T) 4000(a)    CVC REGISTRATION REQUIRED 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 07/24/98
   BAIL PAID/FORFEITED (CONVICTION) 
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 02 CIT Infraction (T) 26708(a)    CVC RESTRICTED VIEW - SIGN, STICKERS, ETC. 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 07/24/98
   BAIL PAID/FORFEITED (CONVICTION) 
  Sentence: 
   
   
   



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Actions  Date Action Description
06/29/98 RELEASE TO DMV - FTA (DE2)
  PIF GCSV/ALHAMBRA 5-28-98 CK

 
04/01/98 ABST TO DMV - FTA (DE5) LICENSE HOLD

 



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Events  Date Time Event Description Dept Code Department/Judge
10/29/97 08:00 TRAFFIC ARRAIGNMENT - APPEAR/POST BAIL
  BAIL + FTA AMT = $389 AS OF 11/26/97

Disposition Date: 03/26/98
REFERRED TO GC SERVICES

 NTR CHICO TRAFFIC ARRAIGNMENT DEPT


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 27, 2009, 08:32:27 PM
Case Information  Case Number: NCR79526
Case Title: PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, JEFFREY CARL 
Case Type: D.U.I.
Filing Date: 06/29/98
Disposition Date: 12/03/98
 CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO & SENTENCED



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Parties  Name Type Attorney
LAWLESS, JEFFREY CARL  DEFENDANT  VANDERVOORT, J JOSEPH 
   Charges   Count Filing Document Degree Charge 
 00  Misdemeanor (A) 1214.1(a)    PC CIVIL ASSESSMENTS 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 
     
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 00 CIT  ASF     ADMIN SCREENING FEE 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 
     
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 00 CIT Misdemeanor (A) 1202.4    PC RESTITUTION FINE 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 
     
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 01 CIT Misdemeanor (C) 23152(a)    CVC DRIVING UNDER INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL/DRUGS 

  Plea: NG
  Plea Date: 08/04/98
  Disposition: 12/03/98
   CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO 
  Sentence: 12/03/98
   SUMMARY PROBN 36 MO;48 HRS BCJ-REPORT
   1-8-99 8PM;$1248+$100+$24+$35 IN MONTHLY
   PMTS OF $75;LEVEL I DUI SCHOOL
 02 CIT Infraction (T) 16028)(a)    CVC NO INSURANCE 

  Plea: NG
  Plea Date: 08/04/98
  Disposition: 12/03/98
   DISMISSED 
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 03 CIT Infraction (T) 21657    CVC ONE-WAY TRAFFIC AND OFF-CENTER LANES 

  Plea: NG
  Plea Date: 08/04/98
  Disposition: 12/03/98
   DISMISSED 
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 04 CIT Infraction (T) 14601.1(a)    CVC DRIVING WHILE SUSPENDED OR REVOKED 

  Plea: NG
  Plea Date: 08/04/98
  Disposition: 12/03/98
   DISMISSED 
  Sentence: 
   
   
   



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Actions  Date Action Description
03/07/00 ABST TO DMV - FTP (DE3) LICENSE SUSPENDED

 
02/14/00 NTC: CIVIL ASSESSMENT ADDED-NO ADDRESS
  $1433

 
01/13/00 NTC: TICKLER: 10-DAY NOTICE
  $750 APRIL-JAN'00 PMTS

 
01/06/00 NTC: TICKLER: 10-DAY NOTICE
  $750 APRIL-JAN'00 PMTS

 
01/26/99 ABST TO DMV - CONVICTION (DE1)

 
09/08/98 MOTION TO WITHDRAW AS ATTORNEY OF RECORD

 
08/04/98 WAIVER OF DEFT'S PERSONAL PRESENCE 977 PC

 
08/04/98 STIPULATION FOR COMMISSIONER TO SIT AS
  JUDGE PRO TEM

 
06/29/98 CITATION FILED BY CPD 98-4576 OFFICER 1295

 
06/29/98 O/R AGREEMENT SIGNED BY DEFT

 



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Events  Date Time Event Description Dept Code Department/Judge
12/03/98 13:30 DISPOSITION SETTING

Disposition Date: 12/03/98
PLED NOLO; WAIVED TIME, SENTENCED

 CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
10/22/98 13:00 DISPOSITION/SETTING
  DEFT ORDERED PERSONALLY PRESENT

Disposition Date: 10/22/98
CONT FOR DISPO SET

 CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
09/28/98 08:00 JURY TRIAL - MUNI CT CRIM/TRAFFIC

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
VACATED

 C11 HON WILLIAM O SCOTT; COMMISSIONER
09/24/98 13:00 TRIAL READINESS
  AND MOTION TO W/DRAW AS ATTY OF RECORD
  JT SET FOR 9-28-98

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
TRIAL DATE VACATED; CONT FOR SETTING

 CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
09/24/98 00:00 MTN: TO WITHDRAW AS ATTORNEY OF RECORD

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
WITHDRAWN

 CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
08/27/98 10:00 PRETRIAL CONFERENCE

Disposition Date: 08/27/98
TRIAL DATE SET

 C06 HON DARRELL STEVENS; JUDGE
08/04/98 08:30 ARRAIGNMENT

Disposition Date: 08/04/98
PLED NOT GLTY BY ATTY;T/W;SET FOR P/T

 C06 HON DARRELL STEVENS; JUDGE


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 27, 2009, 08:49:50 PM
Case Information Case Number: ST041261
Case Title: PEOPLE VS LAWLESS JR, GARY DUAN
Case Type: RUNNING STOP LIGHT/SIGN
Filing Date: 12/27/01
Disposition Date: 04/05/02
 CONVICTED ON PLEA OF GUILTY



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Parties Name Type Attorney
LAWLESS, GARY DUANE JR  DEFENDANT   
   Charges  Count Filing Document Degree Charge 
 1 CIT Infraction (T) 21802(b)    CVC VIOLATION OF RIGHT-OF-WAY - ENTERING 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 
     
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 2 CIT  YES-TVS     ELIGIBLE FOR TRAFFIC SCHOOL 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 
     
  Sentence: 
   
   
   
 3 COM Misdemeanor (D) 40508(a)    CVC FTA ON SIGNED TRAFFIC CITATION (MCW05) 

  Plea: 
  Plea Date: 
  Disposition: 
     
  Sentence: 
   
   
   



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Actions Date Action Description
04/05/02 RELEASE TO DMV - FAILURE TO APPEAR (DE2)

 
04/05/02 ABSTRACT TO DMV - CONVICTION (DE1)

 
03/28/02 ABSTRACT TO DMV - FTA (DE5) LICENSE HOLD

 



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Events Date Time Event Description Dept Code Department/Judge
02/04/02 08:00 TRAFFIC ARRAIGNMENT
  BAIL + FTA AMT = $341 AS OF 02/18/02
  TOTAL TVS FEES $154; CERT DUE 06/10/02

Disposition Date: 04/05/02
CONVICTED ON PLEA OF GUILTY

 STR WILLOWS TRAFFIC COURT - 1ST ARRAIGNMENT


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 27, 2009, 08:51:10 PM
Here is the link again of PE facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/people/Philip-Espinosa/1356296112

And here is the link for the missing little girl: (Maya Marisol Espinosa)

http://dojapp.doj.ca.gov/missing/detail.asp?FCN=1860906200131

They do look alike.  Wish we could blow up the facebook pic to get a better look.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 09:05:46 PM
hi all, I am new here, have not even read here, but I will try to jump in here and help work on this.

I have more info to post also. 

all the above info I will summarize here really quick for those who do not wish to scroll through all the docs above.

basically this is what is going on here.


mother of timothy john lawless maiden name is Tieken. Her mothers maiden name is forman(timothy's grandmother)

his mother had the 3 boys, timothy, Gary and Jeffrey/jeffery ( in that order ) all last name lawless on the birth records.
then she married Gary D lawless after they were all born. she married gary D lawless using the name Marylin e tieken and also married him using the name marylin e short, on the same day. she divorced him a month later. 5 yrs late she marries manuel gomes.

these boys are using the name of lawless and gomes. being she married both men after they were born, I am not sure if gary d lawless is their father ( although the docs have his last name for them), and they were married ONLY one month. they could have lived together all those years before being married though. so it is hard to say if gary d lawless is even their father. And then they start using the name of Gomes after that.

timothy was born in glenn county cali, north of sacrment a ways, then the other two boys are born in Napa later.  she marries Gary D lawless in Napa.  A month later they divorce.  then 5 years later she marries manuel gomes.  Later I find them in butte county (above sacramento a ways)  this is where all of the arrests docs are coming from.  There are no dates of birth on the arrest records, so I don't know if the Gary D lawless in Butte county jail for failure to register as a sex offender is The father/x husband of marylin, or if this is the son Gary Duane Lawless JR.  whoever it is, they are not in megan register.  So did he move out of state?  or die?  but the son Gary Duane Lawless then shows up in Manton, ca farther north, and in redding, far north cali.  so does the mother and the son jeffrey carl lawless who usually uses the Gomes name.  The mother, gary, jeff, timothy are all on deeds in the manton area, or in redding.  Still no birthdates on any docs up there so still don't know if this is the father gary d lawless or if this is the son Gary D lawless. 

I have a current address of either the father or the son, again, no birthdate so can't tell which one it is, but whoever it is, they are not in megans, so must be the one who is NOT the sex offender? So where is the other one? . 

I have a listing for indiana for someone in the family, but don't know yet which one. 

I also find the grandmother, mother of marylin in redding. 

Now clifford lane lawless was a pastor in redding at the beacon church at one time. 

he is also listed as the president on a lawless roof biz

there is also a Lawless roofing in redding under another lawless that I have not been able to connect clifford lane lawless line to...yet. 

but timothy and his family is well established in Manton and Redding.  Manton is a tiny little town that use to have about 300 people in it.  a few years back it burned to the ground so now it has even less people in it... anyone there probably knows all about these people.  I am working on getting some info from someone in the area.

this is a pretty wild family... alcohol, drugs, lots of warrants, and the mother 70 years old is charged with battery.  LOL

so that is a little run-down on the family


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 09:11:37 PM
Here is the link again of PE facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/people/Philip-Espinosa/1356296112

And here is the link for the missing little girl: (Maya Marisol Espinosa)

http://dojapp.doj.ca.gov/missing/detail.asp?FCN=1860906200131

They do look alike.  Wish we could blow up the facebook pic to get a better look.

I can blow those two pics up for you if you like.  Is it okay to post them on here?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 27, 2009, 09:23:54 PM
Doubledecker-

Welcome to Scared Monkeys, I see you have already pulled up a vine.
Great Job.

B


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 09:28:05 PM
I have the clifford lane lawless line, where do you want me to post that?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 27, 2009, 09:30:28 PM
hi all, I am new here, have not even read here, but I will try to jump in here and help work on this.

I have more info to post also. 

all the above info I will summarize here really quick for those who do not wish to scroll through all the docs above.

basically this is what is going on here.


mother of timothy john lawless maiden name is Tieken. Her mothers maiden name is forman(timothy's grandmother)

his mother had the 3 boys, timothy, Gary and Jeffrey/jeffery ( in that order ) all last name lawless on the birth records.
then she married Gary D lawless after they were all born. she married gary D lawless using the name Marylin e tieken and also married him using the name marylin e short, on the same day. she divorced him a month later. 5 yrs late she marries manuel gomes.

these boys are using the name of lawless and gomes. being she married both men after they were born, I am not sure if gary d lawless is their father ( although the docs have his last name for them), and they were married ONLY one month. they could have lived together all those years before being married though. so it is hard to say if gary d lawless is even their father. And then they start using the name of Gomes after that.

timothy was born in glenn county cali, north of sacrment a ways, then the other two boys are born in Napa later.  she marries Gary D lawless in Napa.  A month later they divorce.  then 5 years later she marries manuel gomes.  Later I find them in butte county (above sacramento a ways)  this is where all of the arrests docs are coming from.  There are no dates of birth on the arrest records, so I don't know if the Gary D lawless in Butte county jail for failure to register as a sex offender is The father/x husband of marylin, or if this is the son Gary Duane Lawless JR.  whoever it is, they are not in megan register.  So did he move out of state?  or die?  but the son Gary Duane Lawless then shows up in Manton, ca farther north, and in redding, far north cali.  so does the mother and the son jeffrey carl lawless who usually uses the Gomes name.  The mother, gary, jeff, timothy are all on deeds in the manton area, or in redding.  Still no birthdates on any docs up there so still don't know if this is the father gary d lawless or if this is the son Gary D lawless. 

I have a current address of either the father or the son, again, no birthdate so can't tell which one it is, but whoever it is, they are not in megans, so must be the one who is NOT the sex offender? So where is the other one? . 

I have a listing for indiana for someone in the family, but don't know yet which one. 

I also find the grandmother, mother of marylin in redding. 

Now clifford lane lawless was a pastor in redding at the beacon church at one time. 

he is also listed as the president on a lawless roof biz

there is also a Lawless roofing in redding under another lawless that I have not been able to connect clifford lane lawless line to...yet. 

but timothy and his family is well established in Manton and Redding.  Manton is a tiny little town that use to have about 300 people in it.  a few years back it burned to the ground so now it has even less people in it... anyone there probably knows all about these people.  I am working on getting some info from someone in the area.

this is a pretty wild family... alcohol, drugs, lots of warrants, and the mother 70 years old is charged with battery.  LOL

so that is a little run-down on the family


 ::cartwheel::  WELCOME DOUBLEDECKER   ::cartwheel::

I posted some additional court records on Gary JR.

Please take a look at http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinion/columnists/36053144.html

The picture after About Gary Lawless. He has an uncanny resemblance to Timothy Lawless.  What do you think?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 09:37:57 PM
well I don't know yet about the pic but clifford lane lawless family comes down out of canada.  but there are so many Lawless people I will have to pull up docs to figure who is who. 

were those other arrests you posted out of the butte county?  I had more but did not post them.  if those are out of butte county then you probably got the rest of them on there.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 27, 2009, 09:38:51 PM
Doubledecker-
here is fine. This way we can keep the general thread clean, and just carry over any notable work product as it develops.

Another Canada connection Northern Rose? Yes, he strongly resembles TL


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 27, 2009, 09:39:02 PM
hi all, I am new here, have not even read here, but I will try to jump in here and help work on this.

I have more info to post also. 

all the above info I will summarize here really quick for those who do not wish to scroll through all the docs above.

basically this is what is going on here.


mother of timothy john lawless maiden name is Tieken. Her mothers maiden name is forman(timothy's grandmother)

his mother had the 3 boys, timothy, Gary and Jeffrey/jeffery ( in that order ) all last name lawless on the birth records.
then she married Gary D lawless after they were all born. she married gary D lawless using the name Marylin e tieken and also married him using the name marylin e short, on the same day. she divorced him a month later. 5 yrs late she marries manuel gomes.

these boys are using the name of lawless and gomes. being she married both men after they were born, I am not sure if gary d lawless is their father ( although the docs have his last name for them), and they were married ONLY one month. they could have lived together all those years before being married though. so it is hard to say if gary d lawless is even their father. And then they start using the name of Gomes after that.

timothy was born in glenn county cali, north of sacrment a ways, then the other two boys are born in Napa later.  she marries Gary D lawless in Napa.  A month later they divorce.  then 5 years later she marries manuel gomes.  Later I find them in butte county (above sacramento a ways)  this is where all of the arrests docs are coming from.  There are no dates of birth on the arrest records, so I don't know if the Gary D lawless in Butte county jail for failure to register as a sex offender is The father/x husband of marylin, or if this is the son Gary Duane Lawless JR.  whoever it is, they are not in megan register.  So did he move out of state?  or die?  but the son Gary Duane Lawless then shows up in Manton, ca farther north, and in redding, far north cali.  so does the mother and the son jeffrey carl lawless who usually uses the Gomes name.  The mother, gary, jeff, timothy are all on deeds in the manton area, or in redding.  Still no birthdates on any docs up there so still don't know if this is the father gary d lawless or if this is the son Gary D lawless. 

I have a current address of either the father or the son, again, no birthdate so can't tell which one it is, but whoever it is, they are not in megans, so must be the one who is NOT the sex offender? So where is the other one? . 

I have a listing for indiana for someone in the family, but don't know yet which one. 

I also find the grandmother, mother of marylin in redding. 

Now clifford lane lawless was a pastor in redding at the beacon church at one time. 

he is also listed as the president on a lawless roof biz

there is also a Lawless roofing in redding under another lawless that I have not been able to connect clifford lane lawless line to...yet. 

but timothy and his family is well established in Manton and Redding.  Manton is a tiny little town that use to have about 300 people in it.  a few years back it burned to the ground so now it has even less people in it... anyone there probably knows all about these people.  I am working on getting some info from someone in the area.

this is a pretty wild family... alcohol, drugs, lots of warrants, and the mother 70 years old is charged with battery.  LOL

so that is a little run-down on the family


Does this help at all:

LAWLESS, GARY D
LAWLESS, GARY
LAWLESS, GARYE D
LAWLESS, GARYE(DOB: 04/1966) (Age: 43)    

32288 ROCK CREEK RD
MANTON, CA 96059-8606
TEHAMA COUNTY
(12/1992-Current)    Most Recent Telephone Listing 530-Edit no phone numbers please  LAWLESS GARY (12/1992-Current)

32288 ROCK CREEK RD
SHINGLETOWN, CA 96088
SHASTA COUNTY
(11/2008-Current)    530-Edit-No phone numbers pleaseLAWLESS GARY(Current Listing Name)

1914 SCOTT AVE
CORNING, CA 96021-2825
TEHAMA COUNTY
(07/1989-07/2005)    

7446 TRUCKEE RD
CORNING, CA 96021
TEHAMA COUNTY
(05/1998-06/1998)    

PO BOX 273
CORNING, CA 96021-0273
TEHAMA COUNTY
(09/1995-05/1998)    

2446 TRUCKEE AVE
GERBER, CA 96035
TEHAMA COUNTY
(11/1997-11/1997)


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 09:39:39 PM
I'll just post the clifford lane lawless lines here, and if they need to go elsewhere I guess someone can move them.  I just don't want to clutter up the threads by putting the wrong info in  the wrong place


or should I start a thread for that line?  I don't know how you guys do things around here


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 27, 2009, 09:40:53 PM
well I don't know yet about the pic but clifford lane lawless family comes down out of canada.  but there are so many Lawless people I will have to pull up docs to figure who is who. 

were those other arrests you posted out of the butte county?  I had more but did not post them.  if those are out of butte county then you probably got the rest of them on there.

Yes they were out of Butte.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 27, 2009, 09:42:47 PM
I'll just post the clifford lane lawless lines here, and if they need to go elsewhere I guess someone can move them.  I just don't want to clutter up the threads by putting the wrong info in  the wrong place


or should I start a thread for that line?  I don't know how you guys do things around here


Welcome DoubleDecker!  Glad to have you.  It looks to me like you come with ENERGY!  ::MonkeyDance:: 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 27, 2009, 09:48:54 PM
Tehama
Case Number:  NT112206 
Case Title:  PEOPLE  VS.  LAWLESS JR., GARY DUA 
Case Description:  SEATBELTS VIEW CHARGES 
Filing Date:  12/28/1994 
Disposition Description:  BAIL PAID/FORFEITED; CONVICTION 
Disposition Date:  01/23/1995 
 
PARTIES
Party Name Relationship Attorney Name
 
LAWLESS, GARY DUANE JR.  DEFENDANT  N/A 
 
 
EVENTS
Date Time Description Disposition
 
02/06/1995  8:30AM  TRAFFIC ARRAIGNMENT  BAIL INCREASED TO $240.00 02/06/95  BAIL PAID & FORFEITED 
 
 
ACTIONS
Date Description
 
12/28/1994  TRAFFIC CITATION FILED - #WU74473 ISSUED BY: CHP OFFICER: 7347 
 
02/08/1995  CONVICTION ABSTRACT TO DMV (MC-DE1) 
 
10/22/2008  CASE SELECTED FOR FILE DESTRUCTION (MCD49) 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 27, 2009, 09:50:05 PM
Tehama

Case Number:  FL48937 
Case Title:  TEHAMA COUNTY  VS.  LAWLESS 
Case Description:  DA SUPPORT 
Filing Date:  05/29/2001 
Disposition Description:  DEFAULT JMT BY COURT 
Disposition Date:  10/04/2001 
 
PARTIES
Party Name Relationship Attorney Name
 
TEHAMA COUNTY  PETITIONER  TEHAMA COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY 
 
LAWLESS, GARY DUANE JR.  RESPONDENT  N/A 
 
 
EVENTS
Date Time Description Disposition
 
No Events were found for Case Number: FL48937.
 
ACTIONS
Date Description
 
05/29/2001  COMPLAINT FILED, SUMMONS ISSUED 
 
06/08/2001  PROOF OF MAILING 
 
08/14/2001  PROOF OF SERVICE 
 
10/03/2001  REQUEST TO ENTER DEFAULT & CLERK'S ENTRY OF DEFAULT JMT 
 
10/03/2001  DECLARATION FOR DEFAULT OR UNCONTESTED JUDGMENT (DAFS) 
 
10/04/2001  JUDGMENT ENTERED & NOTICES MAILED (FL) BOOK:191 PAGE:200 
 
10/17/2001  PROOF OF MAILING 
 
10/29/2001  NOTICE OF ENTRY OF JUDGMENT AND CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE BY MAIL 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 09:50:57 PM
I have two more phone numbers other than the ones you post.  ,

these are both the son according to the birthdate
seems yours are for the son also

the shingletown and the manton listings are showing the same street address
manton and shingletown do run right into one another so I think it is safe to assume
those are for the same property/house.  so if that is the son
we have lost the father gary d lawless somewhere.  hmmm

so the question still is... is the gary d lawless in butte county as a sex offender, the son or the father?

is the father dead? or maybe in prison? for life? or something? or out of state. 

if we find the father gary d lawless, then we can figure out who his father is and determine if he is a cousin or whatever to melissa's line.

let me post melissa's line

GARY D LAWLESS
Born  Apr 1966   
03/2006
(626) Edit-No phone numbers please


GARY D LAWLESS Born  Apr 1966     
 03/2006
(626) Edit-No phone numbers please


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: klaasend on April 27, 2009, 09:53:10 PM
Hi DD - I just wanted to say Hi and Welcome to the forum and also complement you on all your investigative work on the Huckaby/Tim Lawless connection!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 09:53:42 PM
these are listed with the above numbers I just posted

MONROVIA, CA
SAN PEDRO, CA
EVERGREEN PARK, IL
ITHACA, NY
LONG BEACH, CA   Possible Relatives:
 
(626) Edit-No phone numbers please

BRENNAN, LAWLESS MARY (Age 53)
LAWLESS, MARY (Age 53)
 

MONROVIA, CA
SOLANA BEACH, CA
ARCADIA, CA

relatives   
 
LAWLESS, RONALD TR (Age 108)
LAWLESS, TODD ALFRED (Age 37)



(626) Edit-No phone numbers please/b]

DUARTE, CA
LOS ANGELES, CA







Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 09:57:29 PM
I don't know if you are familiar with the area, so let me give you a little background info..


manton is tehema county
shingleton is shasta county (as is redding)

now is strange they have the same street address in manton as in shingletown being it is two different counties, but these are tiny tiny mountain towns and they do this kind of stuff, so don't let that throw you off, when looking up shasta county or tehema county, they will be in both.  the deeds are all over in shasta county I have them all will post them.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 10:01:09 PM
the rock creek address listed in manton and shingletown

also shows that this person has address in
notice the indiana address in Borden, I have not looked there yet

32288 ROCK CREEK MANTON, CA
MANTON, CA
CORNING, CA
REDDING, CA
BORDEN, IN

Possible Relatives:

GOMES, TIMOTHY J (Age 44)
SCHUTZENHOFER, CYNTHIA MARIE (Age 39)
LAWLESS DOLAN, VICTORIA R (Age 39)
GOMES, BURNHAM
GOMES, MARYLIN E (Age 71) mother
LAWLESS, SAMANTHA TO (Age 48)
LAWLESS, LOWELL
LAWLESS, LAWLESS G
GOMES, JEFFERY C (Age 41) brother


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 27, 2009, 10:01:22 PM
I have two more phone numbers other than the ones you post.  ,

these are both the son according to the birthdate
seems yours are for the son also

the shingletown and the manton listings are showing the same street address
manton and shingletown do run right into one another so I think it is safe to assume
those are for the same property/house.  so if that is the son
we have lost the father gary d lawless somewhere.  hmmm

so the question still is... is the gary d lawless in butte county as a sex offender, the son or the father?

is the father dead? or maybe in prison? for life? or something? or out of state. 

if we find the father gary d lawless, then we can figure out who his father is and determine if he is a cousin or whatever to melissa's line.

let me post melissa's line

GARY D LAWLESS
Born  Apr 1966   
03/2006
(626) Edit-No phone numbers please


GARY D LAWLESS Born  Apr 1966     
 03/2006
(626) Edit-No phone numbers please


Maybe this is him.  His SS# is listed as having a Washington state of issue.  I also note that MH has been known to use the name Lawlers:

LAWLESS, GARY
LAWLERS, GARY
(DOB: 09/1919) (Age: 89)    

5460 BANCROFT AVE APT 306
OAKLAND, CA 94601-5842
ALAMEDA COUNTY
(07/2004-Current)    

3727 41ST AVE APT D
SACRAMENTO, CA 95824-2536
SACRAMENTO COUNTY
(07/2000-10/2004)    

3728 73RD
OAKLAND, CA 94605
ALAMEDA COUNTY
(11/2000-11/2000)    

4529 BROOKFIELD DR
SACRAMENTO, CA 95823-3749
SACRAMENTO COUNTY
(03/2000-10/2000)    

1911 N 5TH AVE APT 5
PASCO, WA 99301-3693
FRANKLIN COUNTY
(01/1988-12/1991)    

9506 BIRCH ST APT 4
OAKLAND, CA 94603-1653
ALAMEDA COUNTY
(01/1983-04/1985)    

2738 73RD AVE APT
OAKLAND, CA 94605-2846
ALAMEDA COUNTY


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 10:02:53 PM
other people and places connected to the rock creek address and that gary d lawless are

RANCHO CORDOVA, CA
SACRAMENTO, CA
CORNING, CA
SAINT ANN, MO
ANTELOPE, CA
NOVATO, CA
MANTON, CA
CHICO, CA
SAINT LOUIS, MO
SAN FRANCISCO FPO, CA
BRIDGETON, MO

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, GARY DUANE (Age 43) brother
SCHUTZENHOFER, CYNTHIA MARIE (Age 39)
GOMES, BURNHAM
GOMES, MARYLIN E (Age 71) mother
GOMES, GARY D
NEASBITT, CHONA JEAN (Age 35)
GOMES, JEFFERY C (Age 41) brother
LAWLESS, CHONA J (Age 35)
LAWLESS, GARY E

Possible Roommates / Associates:

DAVIS, TIMOTHY
((edit - old roommate not involved))



MANTON, CA
ROCHESTER, WA

Possible Relatives:

GOMES, TIMOTHY J (Age 44) timother john lawless
GOMES, MARYLIN E (Age 71) mother





MANTON, CA
MARYSVILLE, CA

Possible Relatives:

ROCK, JAMES J (Age 79)





MANTON, CA
BOULDER CREEK, CA





MANTON, CA

Possible Relatives:

GOMES, TIMOTHY J (Age 44) timother john lawless



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 10:08:44 PM
these are all connected to timothy and the debina way address

notice the SPANAWAY Washington.

remember the people on the video at the clarkston church in washington, their name is johnson, they said they were worried about their safety over this, which was weird, but they are in spanaway,


there is also a duane ministries listed with them up there in spanaway I have not had time to track yet, but will.  he is also in clarkston and lewiston
gary d lawless' middle name is duane. I am wondering if this might be connected to this line?

still looking.


TIMOTHY J LAWLESS
3532 DEBINA WAY
RANCHO CORDOVA, CA 95670


same biz
3532 DEBINA RANCHO CORDOVA, CA

SPANAWAY, WA

EATONVILLE, WA
RANCHO CORDOVA, CA
TACOMA, WA

Possible Relatives:

MINER, MAX E (Age 75)
MINER, VUDY (Age 62)


Possible Employment / Business Associations:

VENDORCONX INC
NEXT OPPORTUNITY, INC
VENDORCONNECTS, INC
RANCHO CORDOVA, CA
SACRAMENTO, CA

Possible Relatives:

NEASBITT, CHONA JEAN (Age 35)
LAWLESS, CHONA J (Age 35)


RANCHO CORDOVA, CA
SACRAMENTO, CA

Possible Relatives:

GOMES, TIMOTHY J (Age 44)
LAWLESS, TIMOTHY J (Age 44)



these lawless names are also in spanaway washington.

one of them has the same name of Duane as does gary duane lawless brother to the RIGHT timothy J Lawless


LAWLESS, DUANE T (Age 55)

Possible Employment / Business Associations:


DUANE LAWLESS MINISTRYS
TACOMA, WA the right timothy also is listed with this town too
BELLEVUE, WA
UNIVERSITY PLACE, WA
PORTLAND, OR
SPANAWAY, WA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, AYREEN S (Age 38)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

MASTERSON, JAMES J (Age 67)
LOVELY, HENRY (Age 58)
LOVELY, ROBERTA A (Age 55)
GALLATY, TIMOTHY B (Age 46)
WILLIAMS, ALICE P P (Age 70)
QUINONES, NELSON A (Age 43)
BADGUIO, ALEXANDER L (Age 57)
GARCIA, D





. LAWLESS, MICHAEL EDWARD (Age 55)

Associated names:

LAWLESS, MELVIN E

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

GRM INVESTMENTS, INC
PUYALLUP, WA
SEQUIM, WA
PORT ANGELES, WA
SPANAWAY, WA
Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, EDWARD M
LAWLESS, KYNA MARIE (Age 28)
LAWLESS, YVONNE (Age 52)
LAWLESS, MIKE PAM
LAWLESS, PAMELA GAYLE (Age 51)





LAWLESS, PAMELA GAYLE (Age 51)

Associated names:

WHITNEY, PAM G

SEQUIM, WA
PORT ANGELES, WA
PUYALLUP, WA
SPANAWAY, WA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, MICHAEL EDWARD (Age 55)
LAWLESS, EDWARD M



LAWLESS, MIKE PAM
LAWLESS, KYNA MARIE (Age 28)




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 10:14:07 PM


Quote

Maybe this is him.  His SS# is listed as having a Washington state of issue.  I also note that MH has been known to use the name Lawlers:

LAWLESS, GARY
LAWLERS, GARY
(DOB: 09/1919) (Age: 89)    

5460 BANCROFT AVE APT 306
OAKLAND, CA 94601-5842
ALAMEDA COUNTY
(07/2004-Current)    

3727 41ST AVE APT D
SACRAMENTO, CA 95824-2536
SACRAMENTO COUNTY
(07/2000-10/2004)    

3728 73RD
OAKLAND, CA 94605
ALAMEDA COUNTY
(11/2000-11/2000)    

4529 BROOKFIELD DR
SACRAMENTO, CA 95823-3749
SACRAMENTO COUNTY
(03/2000-10/2000)    

1911 N 5TH AVE APT 5
PASCO, WA 99301-3693
FRANKLIN COUNTY
(01/1988-12/1991)    

9506 BIRCH ST APT 4
OAKLAND, CA 94603-1653
ALAMEDA COUNTY
(01/1983-04/1985)    

2738 73RD AVE APT
OAKLAND, CA 94605-2846
ALAMEDA COUNTY

hmm now this is interesting because if you look at the butte county arrest for not registering as a sex offender for gary d lawless ...there is a note on those court docs that says the defendent MIGHT BE IN ALAMENDA COUNTY JAIL..

here we see this gary lawless above has alameda county addresses...we need to check all these out

I know the father gary d lawless was born about 1933... that would make him approx.  76,

a lot of these data bases have the ages messed up a lot of times. 

lets try to check the gary at these addresses out. 



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Izzy58 on April 27, 2009, 10:25:43 PM
I can only find one Gary D Lawless in the death Index and the birth year is off



Name     Birth   Death    Last Residence   Last Benefit    SSN   Issued
   
GARY W LAWLESS    02 Dec 1946   26 Sep 2006 (V)   40217 (Louisville, Jefferson, KY)   (none specified)   Edit-remove ss#   Kentucky

GARY D LAWLESS    30 Dec 1947   18 Apr 1989
   75639 (De Berry, Panola, TX)   (none specified)   Edit-remove ss#   Texas   

GARY W LAWLESS    24 Jul 1942   26 Feb 1995   (not specified)   (none specified)   Edit-remove ss#   Missouri   


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 10:26:01 PM
5460 BANCROFT
oakland,

not showing him listed there but there are a bunch of harris and williams names



okay gary lawless showing up with katherine lawless at this one
I have her name somewhere, will find it

3727 41ST AVE
sacramento ca

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

 KATHERINE DO Offices and Clinics of Chiropractors
  OAKLAND, CA
HAYWARD, CA
SACRAMENTO, CA

Possible Relatives:

ROBINSON, ROSE (Age 78)
ROBINSON, SANDRANNA L (Age 38)
LAWLESS, KATHERINE M (Age 52)
ROBINSON, CARLOS S (Age 40)
LAWLESS, JERMAINE A (Age 27)
ROBINSON, SHADEEB O
ROBINSONSETZER, CARLOS (Age 40)
LAWLESS, GARY
ROBINSON, J 


ANTIOCH, CA
PITTSBURG, CA
HAYWARD, CA
OAKLAND, CA
SACRAMENTO, CA

 Possible Relatives:

ROBINSON, KATHERINE M (Age 36)
LAWLESS, KATHERINE M (Age 52)
LAWLESS, GARY


Possible Roommates / Associates:

HALL, HESTER HAMPTON (Age 51)
HAMPTON, ROBERT LEE (Age 51)



9506 BIRCH OAKLAND, CA


not finding him here, but more harris and williams here




well we know if all these addresses are the same gary lawless then we are looking for THIS one with katherine and jermaine lawless.  so I will look that up


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 10:28:48 PM
I can only find one Gary D Lawless in the death Index and the birth year is off



Name     Birth   Death    Last Residence   Last Benefit    SSN   Issued
   
GARY W LAWLESS    02 Dec 1946   26 Sep 2006 (V)   40217 (Louisville, Jefferson, KY)   (none specified)   Edit-remove ss#   Kentucky

GARY D LAWLESS    30 Dec 1947   18 Apr 1989
   75639 (De Berry, Panola, TX)   (none specified)   Edit-remove ss#   Texas   

GARY W LAWLESS    24 Jul 1942   26 Feb 1995   (not specified)   (none specified)   Edit-Remove ss#   Missouri   

yes I had found that one also, but he is too young, so can't be the father. 
but sometimes they are not listed in the ss index, rarely they aren't but I have seen them now. 




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 10:30:53 PM
this is the katherine lawless/robinson with gary lawless in oakland and sacramento above with jermaine. 

LAWLESS, KATHERINE M (Age 52)

Associated names:

 KATHERINE, R
 LAWLESS, GARY
  SACRAMENTO, CA
UNION CITY, CA

Possible Relatives:

ROBINSON, KATHERINE M (Age 36)
LAWLESS, JERMAINE A (Age 27)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

WATSON, OTIS L (Age 57)
HOWARD, ETHEL H (Age 78)






  ROBINSON, KATHERINE M (Age 36)

Associated names:

 KATHERINE,  LAWLE
 LAWLESS, KATHERINE M

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

 KATHERINE DO Offices and Clinics of Chiropractors
OAKLAND, CA
HAYWARD, CA
SACRAMENTO, CA

Possible Relatives:

ROBINSON, ROSE (Age 78)
ROBINSON, SANDRANNA L (Age 38)
LAWLESS, KATHERINE M (Age 52)
ROBINSON, CARLOS S (Age 40)
LAWLESS, JERMAINE A (Age 27)
ROBINSON, SHADEEB O
ROBINSON SETZER, CARLOS (Age 40)
LAWLESS, GARY
ROBINSON, J
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Izzy58 on April 27, 2009, 10:30:58 PM


Tehama County Records

document not available

Document Number   Z0257567
Instrument_Number   004317
InstrumentType   JUDGMENT
Recording_Date   03/31/1998
Grantor   LAWLESS, GARY DUANE
Grantee   SHASTA COUNTY OF
Book   1780
Page   0047
NumberOfPages   










Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Izzy58 on April 27, 2009, 10:33:28 PM
document not available


Document Number   Z0315026
Instrument_Number   006938
InstrumentType   ABSTRACT OF JUDGMENT
Recording_Date   03/30/2006
Grantor   LAWLESS, GARY D JR
Grantee   SHASTA COUNTY OF
Book   
Page   
NumberOfPages   


.....and not sure if this is related.....


document not available


Document Number   Z0175288
Instrument_Number   000556
InstrumentType   DEED
Recording_Date   01/12/1999
Grantor   WILD HORSE PROPERTIES #1 L L
WILD HORSE PROPERTIES #1 L L C
Grantee   LAWLESS, DONALD THOMAS
LAWLESS, MARLENE
Book   1843
Page   0467
NumberOfPages   


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 27, 2009, 10:33:56 PM
Earlier today we talked about an SO in Maine, named Timothy R Lawless, aged 26.


Timothy R Lawless
Date of Birth: 07/18/1983

Residence: Calais ME, 04619

Address last verified on: 01/28/2009

SORA #: 5741  
Convictions
Statute: 17-A MRSA (283)(1)(A)
Offense: Dissemination of sexually explicit material
Statutory Description: Intentionally or knowingly disseminate or possess with intent to disseminate any book, magazine, newspaper, print, negative, slide, motion picture, videotape, computer data file or other mechanically, electronically or chemically reproduced visual image or material that depicts any minor who the person knows or has reason to know is a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct.
Case #: CR-07-136
Court: Superior Court Machias
Statute: 17-A MRSA (284)(1)(A)
Offense: Possess sexually explicit material
Statutory Description: Intentionally or knowingly possess sexually explicit material which depicts another person engaging in sexually explicit conduct, and the other person has not in fact attained 16 years of age or the person knows or has reason to know that the other person has not attained 16 years of age.
Case #: CR-07-136
Court: Superior Court Machias
Statute: 17-A MRSA (283)(1)(C)
Offense: Dissemination of sexually explicit material
Statutory Description: Intentionally or knowingly disseminate or possess with intent to disseminate any book, magazine, newspaper, print, negative, slide, motion picture, videotape, computer data file or other mechanically, electronically or chemically reproduced visual image or material that depicts any minor who is less than 12 years of age who the person knows or has reason to know is a minor less than 12 years of age engaging in sexually explicit conduct.
Case #: CR-07-136
Court: Superior Court Machias
Statute: 17-A MRSA (284)(1)(C)
Offense: Possess sexual explicit material of minor under 12
Statutory Description: Intentionally or knowingly possess sexually explicit material which depicts another person engaging in sexually explicit conduct, and the other person has not in fact attained 12 years of age or the person knows or has reason to know that the other person has not attained 12 years of age.
Case #: CR-07-136
Court: Superior Court Machias




Is this Gramps?
Gordon Lester Lawless SR
Date of Birth: 11/19/1924

Residence: Presque isle ME, 04769

Address last verified on: 02/13/2009

SORA #: 5115  
Out of State Sentencing
Statute: Second Degree Child Molestation
Court: Rhode Island
Docket #: W2-2002-0366A
Statute: Second Degree Child Molestation
Court: Rhode Island
Docket #: W2-2002-0366A
Statute: Second Degree Child Molestation
Court: Rhode Island
Docket #: W2-2002-0366A
Statute: Second Degree Child Molestation
Court: Rhode Island
Docket #: W2-2002-0366A

Do they fit anywhere? Before you freak out about the physical similarities between Timothy R and Timothy J Lawless, right now there is nothing more than their names to tie then, thus why I throw it out. If you click on the above link, and it does not return "live data" just search Lawless, Timothy R
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 10:46:16 PM
I have looked for the father gary d lawless for 2 days.  I have went through marriages, divorces, court docs, land deeds, phone, city directories, news archives etc.  still no him.

here is what I am thinking. 

the mother divorced him in napa ... 5 yrs later she marries gomes, then we find her and the boys in butte county, tehema county, and shasta county and they are still up there in redding area... shasta/tehema/manton etc and redding. 

I think the father got left back in the bay area.  so where did he go.

if he is the sex offender in butte county did he move out of state, as he is not in megans? or is that the son who is now in shingletown / manton, who is not on the megans either hmmmm

now if the father left state, he would have to register in the other state and not be in megans... so where did he go..

being the butte county court doc for the sex offender stated they might be in the alameda jail, maybe he was and was still over there in the bay area, but picked up a charge in butte?  but what was he doing over there with the x wife?  did the kids go over to butte where he was, and then the mother go over there too... was the gary d lawless the mother and jeff the son committ battery on the x husband gary? or was it the son gary?  we find all of them up in manton on the same land deeds... and we find the son gary up there.  so where is the father.. back in alameda bay area?  so did he leave there and go out of state so he is not on megans

that is my guess.  he is out of state... but where.  in washington?

now what if he is under his middle name?  is it duane? the same as his son's? 

could he be in washington up around spanaway under his middle name of duane?
just a guess. 

let me go looking


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 10:49:09 PM
document not available


Document Number   Z0315026
Instrument_Number   006938
InstrumentType   ABSTRACT OF JUDGMENT
Recording_Date   03/30/2006
Grantor   LAWLESS, GARY D JR
Grantee   SHASTA COUNTY OF
Book   
Page   
NumberOfPages   


.....and not sure if this is related.....


document not available


Document Number   Z0175288
Instrument_Number   000556
InstrumentType   DEED
Recording_Date   01/12/1999
Grantor   WILD HORSE PROPERTIES #1 L L
WILD HORSE PROPERTIES #1 L L C
Grantee   LAWLESS, DONALD THOMAS
LAWLESS, MARLENE
Book   1843
Page   0467
NumberOfPages   

all the ones in tehema and shasta county are the right family, but the gary d lawless on them are the SON.  there are tons of deeds on them too.  the mother and the 3 boys and the wives of the boys and the grandmother, mother of marylin who is the boys mom. 

but I can't find the father gary d lawless up there.  he is just gone.  he is not showing up dead.  I am thinking he is under another name, perhaps the middle name of D which might be duane as his sons middle name is duane. 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 10:51:41 PM
let me get melissa/clifford lane lawless line on here so everyone has those names to compare and cross-reference. 

George W. Lawless (Father of Clifford Lane Lawless)
born - date unknown, North Dakota
death - November 11, 1969

His Parents born: Unknown, USA

George W. Lawless married: 1st wife

Jesse G. Dicus (Mother of Clifford Lane Lawless)
born - about 1907 Washington
death -
Her Parents Born: Father, Iowa / Mother Canada(English)
Her parents: Father Alfred Dicus; Mother Sarah/aka Sallie/aka Sadie
Parents of Alfred Dicus: Father, Ohio / Mother, Iowa
Parents of Sarah: both from Canada/English
Alfred Dicus
Born -12 Mar 1876
Death - Feb 1972 (Brewster, Okanogan, WA 98812 )
Sadie Dicus
Born - 28 Feb 1882
Death - Apr 1966 98846 (Pateros, Okanogan, WA)


George W. Lawless married: 2nd wife November 24, 1955 Brewster WA

Esther Luretta Lawless
born - October 23, 1897; Rome, Wisconsin
death - Jan 1983 (Brewster, Okanogan, WA 98812)
Her Parents Born: unknown

_______________________________
Jesse G. Dicus (Mother of Clifford Lane Lawless)
marred: 2nd husband
Unknown - AKA "Lucky Louie"
born-
death -

_________________________

Children of George W. Lawless and Jessie G. Dicus

son: Paul George Lawless
born - Jan 24, 1927
death - Mar 26, 1997

married: 1st Wife

born -
death -



son: Clifford Lane Lawless
born -
death - Living

married: 1st Wife July 9, 1960; Modesto Ca
Connie L Harris
born -
death - Living
Her Parents: A. A. Harris & Irene Harris

____________________________

Children of Clifford Lane Lawless & Connie L. Harris:

Brian Lawless
born -
death - Living

Brett Lawless
born -
death - Living

Joni Lawless
born -
death - Living
married Hughes

___________________________
Children of Brian Lawless & Judy A ?

Melissa Chantel Lawless
born -
death - Living

married 1st Husband Johnny Huckaby


Adam B Lawless 23

Celeb J Lawless 21

Julianne Lawless


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 10:52:03 PM
more information on Clifford Lane Lawless

living in San Jose at least from Sept 1976 - Sept 1979
Quad-City Herald Sept 9, 1976
Lane Lawless of San Jose, California, was here last week visiting Esther Lawless

Quad-City Herald Sept 6, 1979
Mr. and Mrs. Lane Lawless, Brian, Brett and Joni of San Jose, California, have been visiting Eshter Lawless.
They took a trip up the Nethow for a few days, and celebrated Lane's birthday with the Ted Huckabee family.



graduated from Brewster HS in 1950

Was on debate team at brewster High School
Quad-City Herald - Feb 7, 1980

Religious Background Information

clifford lane lawless studied under A. A. Harris

clifford's wife Connie is the daughter of A. A. and Irene Harris.

clifford and wife connie were married by A. A. Harris in Modesto Ca on July 9, 1960 He was also baptized this day by A. A. Harris

He was saved Wenatchee, Washington, In April of 1960. He was baptized July 9, 1960 by the authority of the Eastside Missionary Baptist Church of East Wenatchee. Elder A.A. Harris administered the ordinance



so he was baptized in wanachee wa the same day he was married in modesto CA?______________________________



more information on Paul George Lawless (Brother of Clifford Lane Lawless)

Paul George Lawless ( Brother of Clifford Lane Lawless)
Born: 24 Jan 1927
Died: 26 Mar 1997



P. George Lawless ( Brother of Clifford Lane Lawless)

1930 United States Federal Census
Name: P George Lawless
Home in 1930: Brewster, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1926
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: George W Lawless
Mother's Name: Jessie G
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:
father George W Lawless born North Dakota
his parents born Unknown in USA
Occupation of George W Lawless - electrician
George W Lawless is a War Veteran

Mother, Jesse G. Dicus born In Washington
her father b. in Iowa, her mother b. Canada/English

Neighbors: 1930 census
Rawley Family
Lamberton Family


Household Members:
Name Age
George W Lawless 37
Jessie G Lawless 24
P George Lawless 3 4/12



Death Record For Paul George LawlessPaul Lawless
SSN: Edit-remove ss#
Last Residence: 20781 Hyattsville, Prince Georges, Maryland, United States of America
Born: 24 Jan 1927
Died: 26 Mar 1997
State (Year) SSN issued: Washington (Before 1951)


military for George Paul Lawless/Paul George Lawless
U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
about George P Lawless
Name: George P Lawless
Birth Year: 1927
Race: White, citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: Washington
State of Residence: Washington
County or City: Okanogan

Enlistment Date: 20 Jun 1945
Enlistment State: Washington
Enlistment City: Fort Lewis
Branch: No branch assignment
Branch Code: No branch assignment
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life

Education: 4 years of high school
Marital Status: Single, without dependents



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 10:52:22 PM
More information on Esther Luretta Lawless (Step-Mother of Clifford Lane Lawless)

Esther Luretta Lawless
born October 23, 1897 Rome, Wisconsin
died/ Sacred Medical Center Spokane
Living in Brewster wa
member of Sacred Heart Roman Catholic church and the Altar Society.
she followed the seasonal fruit harvest
funeral-wednesday, jan 26, 1983 10 am
sacred heart roman catholic church.
rosary services hel tuesday jan 25, 1983 8pm barnes chapel rev joe bell officiating,
intermet brewster cemetery. barnes chapel, brewster in charge of arrangmets.

ESTHER LAWLESS
23 Oct 1897
Jan 1983
98812 (Brewster, Okanogan, WA)
Edit-remove ss#
California first issue SS#


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 10:52:42 PM
More information on Jesse Dicus

The Herald Reporter - Aug 18, 1960

Reunio Brings Sisters Together

The home of Mrs. Florence Mansfield was the scene of the reunion of six Sanderson sisters and their families last Sunday.

Present was Mrs. Clara McKenzie, from Lewiston, Idaho, who arrived Friday night of last week, Mrs. Bea Ganzman, of Walla Walla, who was accompanied by her grandson, Gary, who arrived on Monday of last week, Mr. and Mrs. George of Snyder, (Gladys), of Seattle, who came on Tuesday of last week, Mr. and Mrs. Harold Haight, (Grace), of Spokane, who arrived last Saturday, and Mrs. Al Dicus, (Sadie), of Pateros.

Mr. and Mrs. George O. Snyder and their family, from Clallam Bay, also came to the reunion, as did Mr. and Mrs. Tom Mutch and their three children, of Ephrata. Mrs. Mutch is a daughter of the Haights, and George Snyder is the so of the George Snyders. Others present were Mr. and Mrs. Frank Dicus, from Chelan, Mr. and Mrs. Kenneth Sanderson, from 25 mile creek, Mrs. Jessie Lawless, from Seattle, and Mrs. Eva Sanderson, Mr. and Mrs. Ernie Lemon and family, Mr. Phin Wright, and Mrs. Mamie Tupper, all of Pateros.

Most of the visitors left on Monday, after spending some time visiting their many old friends and relatives in this area.

_____________________

1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Jesse Dicus
Home in 1920: Pateros, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 13 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1907
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Name: Alfred
Father's Birth Place: Iowa
Mother's Name: Sarah
Mother's Birth Place: Canada
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Female
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 371
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Dicus 42
Sarah Dicus 37
Eva Dicus 17
Jesse Dicus 13
Everest Dicus 9
David Dicus 7
______________

father of jesse Dicus

ALFRED DICUS
Born -12 Mar 1876
DEath -Feb 1972
(Brewster, Okanogan, WA 98812 )
Edit-remove ss#Washington

Mother of Jesse Dicus
SADIE DICUS
Born - 28 Feb 1882
Death - Apr 1966 98846 (Pateros, Okanogan, WA)
Edit remove ss#  Washington

___________________

jesse's brother David above

Name: David W Dicus
Home in 1930: Pateros, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1912
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: Alferd
Mother's Name: Sallie E
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alferd Dicus 54
Sallie E Dicus 48
Eva L Dicus 27
Everest A Dicus 20
David W Dicus 18
Norbert F Dicus 8

Washington Death Index, 1940-1996
about David W Dicus
Name: David W Dicus
Date of Death: 31 Jan 1970
Place of Death: Omak
RESIDENCE: Okanogan
Gender: Male
Certificate: 001282

________________

more info on siblings of Jesse Dicus



Brother of Jesse Dicus
EVEREST A DICUS
22 Feb 1910 06
Jan 1993
(Tonasket, Okanogan, WA 98855)
Edit-remove s# Washington


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 10:52:59 PM
More information on Alfred Dicus Family

1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Alfred Dicus
Home in 1900: Foster Creek, Douglas, Washington
Age: 24
Birth Date: Mar 1876
Birthplace: Iowa
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Son
Father's Name: John J
Father's Birthplace: Ohio
Mother's Name: Lorretta
Mother's Birthplace: Iowa
Marital Status: Single
Residence : Chester, Columbia, Foster Creek, Gibson, and Pierpoint Precincts, Douglas, Washington
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John J Dicus 50
Lorretta Dicus 45
Alfred Dicus 24
William Dicus 14
Grace Dicus 16
Mark Dicus 9
John Dicus 6
Oscar Dicus 4


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 10:53:18 PM
more information on Bea Ganzman, who was at the reunion, who had the grandson named Gary

1920 United States Federal Census
about Beatrice V Ganzman
Name: Beatrice V Ganzman
[Beatrice V Tanzman]
Home in 1920: Pateros, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 24 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Carl L E
Father's Birth Place: Canada
Mother's Birth Place: Canada
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 366
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Carl L E Ganzman 33
Beatrice V Ganzman 24
Hellen G Ganzman 4 2/12
Frances E Ganzman 2 1/12
C Everett Ganzman 11/12




1920 United States Federal Census
about Hellen G Ganzman
Name: Hellen G Ganzman
[Hellen G Tanzman]
Home in 1920: Pateros, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 4 years 2 months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1915
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Name: Carl L E
Father's Birth Place: Germany
Mother's Name: Beatrice V
Mother's Birth Place: Washington
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Female
Image: 366
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Carl L E Ganzman 33
Beatrice V Ganzman 24
Hellen G Ganzman 4 2/12
Frances E Ganzman 2 1/12
C Everett Ganzman 11/12


Social Security Death Index
about Everett C. Ganzman
Name: Everett C. Ganzman
SSN: Edit-remove ss#
Last Residence: 98902 Yakima, Yakima, Washington, United States of America
Born: 18 Jan 1919
Died: 31 Aug 1998
State (Year) SSN issued: Washington (Before 1951)


Name: Everett C Ganzman
Birth Date: May 1920
Address: 620 S Pleasant Av, Yakima, Washington 98902-0501 (1993)
[15 S 8th Av #9, Yakima, Washington 98902-0401 (1993)]


World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Carl Ludwig Edward Ganzman
Name: Carl Ludwig Edward Ganzman
County: Okanogan
State: Washington
Birthplace: Baden;Germany
Birth Date: 13 Jul 1886
Race: Caucasian (White)
Roll: 1991725
DraftBoard: 0



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 27, 2009, 10:55:24 PM
Here is what I am coming up with

Gary D Lawless JR Age: 40-44
32288 Rock Creek Rd
Manton, CA 96059-8606
(530) Edit-no phone numbers please

Gary D Lawless Age: 65+
3080 S Yale St
Wichita, KS 67210-1426


Could Sr be in Kansas?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 27, 2009, 10:55:39 PM
Thanks to Klass-

Timothy R Lawless
Date of Birth: 07/18/1983

Residence: Calais ME, 04619

Address last verified on: 01/28/2009

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub6_022109/TimothyRLawlessMaine.jpg)



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 27, 2009, 11:01:15 PM
Oklahoma cancelled business registrations:

3500673354 GARY D. LAWLESS MINISTRIES, L.L.C. 4245050001 Cancelled 7/1/2005


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 11:01:20 PM
Here is what I am coming up with

Gary D Lawless JR Age: 40-44
32288 Rock Creek Rd
Manton, CA 96059-8606
(530) Edit-No phone numbers please

Gary D Lawless Age: 65+
3080 S Yale St
Wichita, KS 67210-1426


Could Sr be in Kansas?

on the marriage record of marylin tieken and gary d lawless, gary is born about 1933..making him about 76 yrs old today. 

these are the parents of timothy, gary d, and jeffrey carl lawless  aka gomes after the step father.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 11:07:16 PM
Oklahoma cancelled business registrations:

3500673354 GARY D. LAWLESS MINISTRIES, L.L.C. 4245050001 Cancelled 7/1/2005


hmmm can you get any more info on this person... is there a filing of DBA or something with his birthdate or an address we can punch in?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 11:09:18 PM
Oklahoma cancelled business registrations:

3500673354 GARY D. LAWLESS MINISTRIES, L.L.C. 4245050001 Cancelled 7/1/2005


hmmm can you get any more info on this person... is there a filing of DBA or something with his birthdate or an address we can punch in?

a ministry or church would have a 501 c 3 filing with the fed gov, should be under tax exempt bizes under the fed gov. 
they are online I have been in them before. 

hmmm also should check out the duane ministries in spanaway WA.  through there too. 

hmm just making a note of this and will get back to it if no one else can do it.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 11:11:36 PM
Thanks to Klass-

Timothy R Lawless
Date of Birth: 07/18/1983

Residence: Calais ME, 04619

Address last verified on: 01/28/2009

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub6_022109/TimothyRLawlessMaine.jpg)



is taht pic on the left with the pimp daddy hat timothy john lawless / gomes?

let me see if I can pull up kids for timothy john lawless gomes, maybe that other one is his son. let me go look


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 11:17:12 PM
Lawless in CALAIS, ME



LAWLESS, SCOTT D (Age 39)
 LEWISTON, ME
BAILEYVILLE, ME
PORTLAND, ME
CALAIS, ME
SCARBOROUGH, ME
S PORTLAND, ME
WOODLAND, ME
ALEXANDER, ME
BARING, ME
SOUTH FREEPORT, ME   

Possible Roommates / Associates:

VICAIRE, RICHARD C (Age 41)





LAWLESS, CARMEN D (Age 52)
LOUISVILLE, KY
ALEXANDER, ME
CALAIS, ME
BARING, ME   





  LAWLESS, JOHN F (Age 47)
  CALAIS, ME
BAILEYVILLE, ME
ALEXANDER, ME
BARING, ME

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, DAVIDA M (Age 43)






.  PERKINS, BRENDA M (Age 44)

Associated names:

 LAWLESS, BRENDA M
 ROCKLAND, ME
BAILEYVILLE, ME
CALAIS, ME
ALEXANDER, ME
CARIBOU, ME
BARING, ME

Possible Relatives:

PERKINS, BRENDA M (Age 51)
PERKINS, TIMOTHY A (Age 56)
PERKINS, SUZANNE
PERKINS, I





.  LAWLESS, FREDERICK W (Age 52)
 CALAIS, ME   






  LAWLESS, DAVIDA M (Age 43)
 BAILEYVILLE, ME
CALAIS, ME
WOODLAND, ME


Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, JOHN F (Age 47)
LAWLESS, JOHN F (Age 67)





  LAWLESS, STEPHEN H (Age 77)
 CALAIS, ME
CARIBOU, ME
BAILEYVILLE, ME
WOODLAND, ME
PRINCETON, ME   





 LAWLESS, JOHN F (Age 67)

Associated names:

 LAWLESS, JOHN
 CALAIS, ME
BAILEYVILLE, ME
ALEXANDER, ME
WOODLAND, ME

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, DAVIDA M (Age 43)
LAWLESS, ARLINE J (Age 68)





 LAWLESS, AMANDA L (Age 31)
    CALAIS, ME
BANGOR, ME   





  LAWLESS, SHANE T (Age 49)
 CALAIS, ME
BANGOR, ME

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, THOMAS H (Age 80)






.  LAWLESS, JOHN F
 CALAIS, ME   




.  LAWLESS, ANGELA D (Age 32)

Associated names:

 COTTRELL, ANGELA
  BAILEYVILLE, ME
CALAIS, ME

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, ARLINE L (Age 68)






  LAWLESS, LYNN A
 CALAIS, ME   





 LAWLESS, THOMAS H (Age 80)
 CALAIS, ME

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, SHANE T (Age 49)





  LAWLESS, DAVIDA M
 CALAIS, ME   





.  LAWLESS, LYNN
  CALAIS, ME   





  LAWLESS, JOHN JR

Associated names:

 LAWLESS, JR JOHN
  CALAIS, ME   





  LAWLESS, VANCE D
CALAIS, ME   




  LAWLESS, ARLINE J (Age 68)
CALAIS, ME

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, JOHN F (Age 67)






  LAWLESS, SCOTT D
  CALAIS, ME   





  LAWLESS, AMANDA
 CALAIS, ME   





 LAWLESS, JR FREDERICK W
  CALAIS, ME   





  LAWLESS, BRENDA
  CALAIS, ME   





  LAWLESS, AMANDA
 CALAIS, ME   





.  LAWLESS, S L
  CALAIS, ME   




.  LAWLESS, A
 CALAIS, ME   





.  LAWLESS, T
 CALAIS, ME   






 LAWLESS, F
  CALAIS, ME   





 LAWLESS, T
 CALAIS, ME   






  LAWLESS, EUGENIA G
 CALAIS, ME

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, STEPHEN H





  LAWLESS, STEPHEN H
 CALAIS, ME

Relatives:

LAWLESS, EUGENIA G
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 27, 2009, 11:19:16 PM
Oklahoma cancelled business registrations:

3500673354 GARY D. LAWLESS MINISTRIES, L.L.C. 4245050001 Cancelled 7/1/2005


hmmm can you get any more info on this person... is there a filing of DBA or something with his birthdate or an address we can punch in?

a ministry or church would have a 501 c 3 filing with the fed gov, should be under tax exempt bizes under the fed gov. 
they are online I have been in them before. 

hmmm also should check out the duane ministries in spanaway WA.  through there too. 

hmm just making a note of this and will get back to it if no one else can do it.

This is not a church, its a LLC, or limited liability co.
No exempt status of any kind, definately for profit.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 27, 2009, 11:23:41 PM
Thanks to Klass-

Timothy R Lawless
Date of Birth: 07/18/1983

Residence: Calais ME, 04619

Address last verified on: 01/28/2009

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub6_022109/TimothyRLawlessMaine.jpg)



is taht pic on the left with the pimp daddy hat timothy john lawless / gomes?

let me see if I can pull up kids for timothy john lawless gomes, maybe that other one is his son. let me go look

Possible, but he would have been 18 when he was born (Sr).

Here's something really interesting..
The John in your Maine Lawless's, and the A Lawless, any chance that is an Agnes or Alice using Agnes as an alias?
We have found some pubs with those 2..


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 27, 2009, 11:29:41 PM
Thanks to Klass-

Timothy R Lawless
Date of Birth: 07/18/1983

Residence: Calais ME, 04619

Address last verified on: 01/28/2009

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub6_022109/TimothyRLawlessMaine.jpg)


Blink .... his myspace - last login 2007

http://www.myspace.com/nugget2006
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Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 27, 2009, 11:36:12 PM
Gary D in here as well from a 1975 article.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Izzy58 on April 27, 2009, 11:41:51 PM
That is just way too many Lawless's for me to check!  I now have a headache!!!!  There are Lawless's in every county I have searched so far.....can't keep up with them!  It's like trying to find a Smith or Jones only these people all seem to be connected to a church in one way or another!   ::MonkeyConfused::   


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 27, 2009, 11:42:50 PM
GARY D. LAWLESS MINISTRIES, L.L.C.

Entity Type
Domestic Limited Liability Company

Filing Number
3500673354

GARY D LAWLESS
6320 E 3RD
TULSA, OK 74112

Name Type
Legal


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 27, 2009, 11:43:00 PM
http://www.infibeam.com/Books/categories/Religion/search?q=Agnes%20Lawless

this link comes up with 38 Books that tag " Agnes Lawless" - this is books under religion. Other Lawless Authors come up as well. Lots of Lawless within Religion huh..


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Izzy58 on April 27, 2009, 11:45:58 PM
State of California Recorded Documents

http://www.ca.gov/OS_Government_documents.html


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 27, 2009, 11:49:40 PM
That is just way too many Lawless's for me to check!  I now have a headache!!!!  There are Lawless's in every county I have searched so far.....can't keep up with them!  It's like trying to find a Smith or Jones only these people all seem to be connected to a church in one way or another!   ::MonkeyConfused::   

I hear you!  I am going after the Oklahoma one I posted as on the last page as both he and son listed are the right age,


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 27, 2009, 11:53:59 PM
just for reference to see if they tie to your OK ones


MILLERTON BAPTIST CHURCH INCORPORATED
Millerton, OK    
LAWLESS, WENDY
(CONTACT)
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Izzy58 on April 27, 2009, 11:56:22 PM
That is just way too many Lawless's for me to check!  I now have a headache!!!!  There are Lawless's in every county I have searched so far.....can't keep up with them!  It's like trying to find a Smith or Jones only these people all seem to be connected to a church in one way or another!   ::MonkeyConfused::   

I hear you!  I am going after the Oklahoma one I posted as on the last page as both he and son listed are the right age,

Well I'm off to bed....good luck to all in your searches!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 12:02:09 AM
just for reference to see if they tie to your OK ones


MILLERTON BAPTIST CHURCH INCORPORATED
Millerton, OK    
LAWLESS, WENDY
(CONTACT)
 

MILLERTON BAPTIST CHURCH INCORPORATED

Filing Number
1412049285

Entity Type
Domestic Not For Profit Corporation Church

(RA) Registered Agent
MILLERTON BAPTIST CHURCH INCORPORATED
302 N E
MILLERTON, OK 74750

(RA) Effective Date: 9/22/2004
 
Name Type
Legal 



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 12:03:29 AM
That is just way too many Lawless's for me to check!  I now have a headache!!!!  There are Lawless's in every county I have searched so far.....can't keep up with them!  It's like trying to find a Smith or Jones only these people all seem to be connected to a church in one way or another!   ::MonkeyConfused::   

I hear you!  I am going after the Oklahoma one I posted as on the last page as both he and son listed are the right age,

Well I'm off to bed....good luck to all in your searches!

Nite!  I am almost done myself.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 12:04:05 AM
GARY D. LAWLESS MINISTRIES, L.L.C.

Entity Type
Domestic Limited Liability Company

Filing Number
3500673354

GARY D LAWLESS
6320 E 3RD
TULSA, OK 74112

Name Type
Legal


at this address
6320 E 3RD
TULSA, OK 74112

Possible Relatives:

LOLLIS, GARY DON (Age 54)
LOLLIS, LINDA
LOLLIS, DONNY D (Age 35)
LOLLIS, MICHAEL D (Age 35)
LOLLIS, MICHELLE JANIECE (Age 28)


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 12:17:13 AM
GARY D. LAWLESS MINISTRIES, L.L.C.

Entity Type
Domestic Limited Liability Company

Filing Number
3500673354

GARY D LAWLESS
6320 E 3RD
TULSA, OK 74112

Name Type
Legal


at this address
6320 E 3RD
TULSA, OK 74112

Possible Relatives:

LOLLIS, GARY DON (Age 54)
LOLLIS, LINDA
LOLLIS, DONNY D (Age 35)
LOLLIS, MICHAEL D (Age 35)
LOLLIS, MICHELLE JANIECE (Age 28)

Sorry if I missed it , but have we checked this address?
Gary D Lawless Age: 65+
3080 S Yale St
Wichita, KS 67210-1426


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 12:36:50 AM
GARY D. LAWLESS MINISTRIES, L.L.C.

Entity Type
Domestic Limited Liability Company

Filing Number
3500673354

GARY D LAWLESS
6320 E 3RD
TULSA, OK 74112

Name Type
Legal


at this address
6320 E 3RD
TULSA, OK 74112

Possible Relatives:

LOLLIS, GARY DON (Age 54)
LOLLIS, LINDA
LOLLIS, DONNY D (Age 35)
LOLLIS, MICHAEL D (Age 35)
LOLLIS, MICHELLE JANIECE (Age 28)

Sorry if I missed it , but have we checked this address?
Gary D Lawless Age: 65+
3080 S Yale St
Wichita, KS 67210-1426

3080 S Yale St
WICHITA, KS

BELLE PLAINE, KS

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, SIR GARY W (Age 67)
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 12:37:48 AM
May 11, 2007 10:43 pm US/Pacific
Oakland Man Gets 7 Years For Fatal Shooting
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numSlides of totalImages  An Oakland man was sentenced Friday to seven years in state prison for a shooting incident more than six years ago that left one associate dead and another wounded.

Gary Lawless, 30, had faced a possible term of 50 years to life if he'd been convicted of murder and attempted murder charges for the incident in the 2400 block of East 23rd Street shortly before 11 p.m. on Dec. 4, 2000, that left 25-year-old Sirreginald Gardner dead and Robert Coleman wounded.

But prosecutor Chris Lamiero allowed Lawless to plead no contest to the lesser charge of voluntary manslaughter on April 13, three weeks after jurors deadlocked 6-6 on his fate following a lengthy trial that included the shooting of a key prosecution witness.

Jurors said they had problems with the credibility of witnesses both for the prosecution and the defense.

The attempted murder charge against Lawless was dropped in exchange for his plea.

Because Lawless has been in custody since July of 2003, he will only have to serve about two more years before he is eligible for parole.

Gardner's mother, Pamela McGloughlin, told Alameda County Superior Court Judge C. Don Clay in Friday's sentencing that a seven-year sentence "is not enough time for what he (Lawless) did to my son."

McLoughlin said her son "won't rest in peace until this is resolved" with a tougher sentence for Lawless.

But Clay said prosecutors agreed to a plea bargain and light sentence for Lawless because the jury deadlocked. He said he would go along with the agreement.

However, the judge told Lawless that he was involved in "a world of guns and violence and that's not acceptable."

Lecturing his courtroom, which was filled with people waiting for other cases, Clay said, "You young men and women have to stop playing with guns and take care of each other."

In his closing argument in March, Lamiero told jurors that the shooting was sparked by a turf war over a drug-selling spot and Lawless opened fire with an assault rifle in retaliation for an incident earlier that evening in which he and several associates were threatened at gunpoint by another group of young people.

Lamiero said Lawless and his associates left the site after the first encounter and returned with guns later that night.

He said Lawless sent Gardner and another man, Robert Coleman, ahead to scout the scene but became impatient after their car broke down and they failed to give him a report on who was at the corner.

Lamiero said Lawless "saw some targets of opportunity" and opened fire, hitting his own associates, Gardner and
Coleman.

Robert Coleman is the brother of Glynn Coleman, who also was involved in the incident.

Lawless admitted on the witness stand that he's a drug dealer and a convicted child molester but denied firing any shots that night.
In his closing argument, defense attorney William DuBois accused Lamiero of putting on an "ugly stepsister of a case and trying to squeeze it into Cinderella's shoe."

He said the prosecution's witnesses were unreliable and alleged, "This case is an example of the government reaching beyond the bounds of fairness."

Lawless testified that Glynn Coleman was the person who carried out the shooting, stating that he tried to talk Coleman out of it but Coleman insisted.

Leroy Coleman, a brother of Glynn Coleman and Robert Coleman, also testified that Glynn Coleman did the shooting.

But Lamiero told jurors not to believe Leroy Coleman, reminding them that Coleman is in state prison for two murders and alleging that "Leroy couldn't even get his story straight" about what happened that night.

Glynn Coleman was shot to death while sitting in his car in the 5100 block of Bancroft Avenue, near Cole Street, in Oakland about 11:30 p.m. on March 17, 2003. That case has never been solved, according to prosecutor Lamiero.

At about 5:45 p.m. on Jan. 16 of this year, two weeks after Lawless' trial began, prosecution witness Terence Smith was shot while sitting in a van at the Coliseum BART station in Oakland. Smith survived the shooting, but wasn't able to testify.

After Friday's hearing, McLoughlin said she thinks that Lawless "will kill again" after he's released from prison in a few years.

http://cbs5.com/local/oakland.fatal.shooting.2.455487.html


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 28, 2009, 01:05:43 AM
That is interesting.  Sounds like some folks in Florida on another thread riding around looking for each other with guns. 

Welcome Doubledecker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1   Sorry I didn't welcome you earlier, I went right to work searching and sadly have so far come up empty.

Good nite all who are leaving.  I'm going to stay awhile longer and search.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 01:06:17 AM
May 11, 2007 10:43 pm US/Pacific
Oakland Man Gets 7 Years For Fatal Shooting
OAKLAND (BCN) ― 
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numSlides of totalImages  An Oakland man was sentenced Friday to seven years in state prison for a shooting incident more than six years ago that left one associate dead and another wounded.

Gary Lawless, 30, had faced a possible term of 50 years to life if he'd been convicted of murder and attempted murder charges for the incident in the 2400 block of East 23rd Street shortly before 11 p.m. on Dec. 4, 2000, that left 25-year-old Sirreginald Gardner dead and Robert Coleman wounded.

But prosecutor Chris Lamiero allowed Lawless to plead no contest to the lesser charge of voluntary manslaughter on April 13, three weeks after jurors deadlocked 6-6 on his fate following a lengthy trial that included the shooting of a key prosecution witness.

Jurors said they had problems with the credibility of witnesses both for the prosecution and the defense.

The attempted murder charge against Lawless was dropped in exchange for his plea.

Because Lawless has been in custody since July of 2003, he will only have to serve about two more years before he is eligible for parole.

Gardner's mother, Pamela McGloughlin, told Alameda County Superior Court Judge C. Don Clay in Friday's sentencing that a seven-year sentence "is not enough time for what he (Lawless) did to my son."

McLoughlin said her son "won't rest in peace until this is resolved" with a tougher sentence for Lawless.

But Clay said prosecutors agreed to a plea bargain and light sentence for Lawless because the jury deadlocked. He said he would go along with the agreement.

However, the judge told Lawless that he was involved in "a world of guns and violence and that's not acceptable."

Lecturing his courtroom, which was filled with people waiting for other cases, Clay said, "You young men and women have to stop playing with guns and take care of each other."

In his closing argument in March, Lamiero told jurors that the shooting was sparked by a turf war over a drug-selling spot and Lawless opened fire with an assault rifle in retaliation for an incident earlier that evening in which he and several associates were threatened at gunpoint by another group of young people.

Lamiero said Lawless and his associates left the site after the first encounter and returned with guns later that night.

He said Lawless sent Gardner and another man, Robert Coleman, ahead to scout the scene but became impatient after their car broke down and they failed to give him a report on who was at the corner.

Lamiero said Lawless "saw some targets of opportunity" and opened fire, hitting his own associates, Gardner and
Coleman.

Robert Coleman is the brother of Glynn Coleman, who also was involved in the incident.

Lawless admitted on the witness stand that he's a drug dealer and a convicted child molester but denied firing any shots that night.
In his closing argument, defense attorney William DuBois accused Lamiero of putting on an "ugly stepsister of a case and trying to squeeze it into Cinderella's shoe."

He said the prosecution's witnesses were unreliable and alleged, "This case is an example of the government reaching beyond the bounds of fairness."

Lawless testified that Glynn Coleman was the person who carried out the shooting, stating that he tried to talk Coleman out of it but Coleman insisted.

Leroy Coleman, a brother of Glynn Coleman and Robert Coleman, also testified that Glynn Coleman did the shooting.

But Lamiero told jurors not to believe Leroy Coleman, reminding them that Coleman is in state prison for two murders and alleging that "Leroy couldn't even get his story straight" about what happened that night.

Glynn Coleman was shot to death while sitting in his car in the 5100 block of Bancroft Avenue, near Cole Street, in Oakland about 11:30 p.m. on March 17, 2003. That case has never been solved, according to prosecutor Lamiero.

At about 5:45 p.m. on Jan. 16 of this year, two weeks after Lawless' trial began, prosecution witness Terence Smith was shot while sitting in a van at the Coliseum BART station in Oakland. Smith survived the shooting, but wasn't able to testify.

After Friday's hearing, McLoughlin said she thinks that Lawless "will kill again" after he's released from prison in a few years.

http://cbs5.com/local/oakland.fatal.shooting.2.455487.html

hmmm so he was 30 in 2007, so would be 32 now... so I wonder if he is the one who was in the butte county jail?  sex offender, been in custody since july 2003, drug user .  and the butte court said he might be in the alameda jail. 

if this is him he is not the father, or the gary d lawless the brother of timothy as timothy's brother was born 1968 which would make him 41 now, not 32. 

I wonder if there could be a mistake in the paper on his age? hmmm

well tired now, but will look at this more tomorrow. 

if this guy was in jail inn 2007 and had a couple more years to do, did he just get out?
this article is may 11 2007, he might have just got out. 

could he be a step brother? who was born to the father gary d lawless after he divorced timothy's mother.  that would make him younger than the other boys... but would he have another son with the same name?

I don't know, will think about this tomorrow. 

I wish they would put the birthdates on the butte county court records, would certainly help ugh


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 01:08:23 AM
I just finished checking both vinenet and kasper for inmates with the name of Lawless in california and Oklahoma.  Nothing for gary or duane


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 01:10:32 AM
May 11, 2007 10:43 pm US/Pacific
Oakland Man Gets 7 Years For Fatal Shooting
OAKLAND (BCN) ― 
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numSlides of totalImages  An Oakland man was sentenced Friday to seven years in state prison for a shooting incident more than six years ago that left one associate dead and another wounded.

Gary Lawless, 30, had faced a possible term of 50 years to life if he'd been convicted of murder and attempted murder charges for the incident in the 2400 block of East 23rd Street shortly before 11 p.m. on Dec. 4, 2000, that left 25-year-old Sirreginald Gardner dead and Robert Coleman wounded.

But prosecutor Chris Lamiero allowed Lawless to plead no contest to the lesser charge of voluntary manslaughter on April 13, three weeks after jurors deadlocked 6-6 on his fate following a lengthy trial that included the shooting of a key prosecution witness.

Jurors said they had problems with the credibility of witnesses both for the prosecution and the defense.

The attempted murder charge against Lawless was dropped in exchange for his plea.

Because Lawless has been in custody since July of 2003, he will only have to serve about two more years before he is eligible for parole.

Gardner's mother, Pamela McGloughlin, told Alameda County Superior Court Judge C. Don Clay in Friday's sentencing that a seven-year sentence "is not enough time for what he (Lawless) did to my son."

McLoughlin said her son "won't rest in peace until this is resolved" with a tougher sentence for Lawless.

But Clay said prosecutors agreed to a plea bargain and light sentence for Lawless because the jury deadlocked. He said he would go along with the agreement.

However, the judge told Lawless that he was involved in "a world of guns and violence and that's not acceptable."

Lecturing his courtroom, which was filled with people waiting for other cases, Clay said, "You young men and women have to stop playing with guns and take care of each other."

In his closing argument in March, Lamiero told jurors that the shooting was sparked by a turf war over a drug-selling spot and Lawless opened fire with an assault rifle in retaliation for an incident earlier that evening in which he and several associates were threatened at gunpoint by another group of young people.

Lamiero said Lawless and his associates left the site after the first encounter and returned with guns later that night.

He said Lawless sent Gardner and another man, Robert Coleman, ahead to scout the scene but became impatient after their car broke down and they failed to give him a report on who was at the corner.

Lamiero said Lawless "saw some targets of opportunity" and opened fire, hitting his own associates, Gardner and
Coleman.

Robert Coleman is the brother of Glynn Coleman, who also was involved in the incident.

Lawless admitted on the witness stand that he's a drug dealer and a convicted child molester but denied firing any shots that night.
In his closing argument, defense attorney William DuBois accused Lamiero of putting on an "ugly stepsister of a case and trying to squeeze it into Cinderella's shoe."

He said the prosecution's witnesses were unreliable and alleged, "This case is an example of the government reaching beyond the bounds of fairness."

Lawless testified that Glynn Coleman was the person who carried out the shooting, stating that he tried to talk Coleman out of it but Coleman insisted.

Leroy Coleman, a brother of Glynn Coleman and Robert Coleman, also testified that Glynn Coleman did the shooting.

But Lamiero told jurors not to believe Leroy Coleman, reminding them that Coleman is in state prison for two murders and alleging that "Leroy couldn't even get his story straight" about what happened that night.

Glynn Coleman was shot to death while sitting in his car in the 5100 block of Bancroft Avenue, near Cole Street, in Oakland about 11:30 p.m. on March 17, 2003. That case has never been solved, according to prosecutor Lamiero.

At about 5:45 p.m. on Jan. 16 of this year, two weeks after Lawless' trial began, prosecution witness Terence Smith was shot while sitting in a van at the Coliseum BART station in Oakland. Smith survived the shooting, but wasn't able to testify.

After Friday's hearing, McLoughlin said she thinks that Lawless "will kill again" after he's released from prison in a few years.

http://cbs5.com/local/oakland.fatal.shooting.2.455487.html

hmmm so he was 30 in 2007, so would be 32 now... so I wonder if he is the one who was in the butte county jail?  sex offender, been in custody since july 2003, drug user .  and the butte court said he might be in the alameda jail. 

if this is him he is not the father, or the gary d lawless the brother of timothy as timothy's brother was born 1968 which would make him 41 now, not 32. 

I wonder if there could be a mistake in the paper on his age? hmmm

well tired now, but will look at this more tomorrow. 

if this guy was in jail inn 2007 and had a couple more years to do, did he just get out?
this article is may 11 2007, he might have just got out. 

could he be a step brother? who was born to the father gary d lawless after he divorced timothy's mother.  that would make him younger than the other boys... but would he have another son with the same name?

I don't know, will think about this tomorrow. 

I wish they would put the birthdates on the butte county court records, would certainly help ugh

my gut tells me this is the sex offender that has not registered but I have no proof,


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 01:12:18 AM
That is interesting.  Sounds like some folks in Florida on another thread riding around looking for each other with guns. 

Welcome Doubledecker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1   Sorry I didn't welcome you earlier, I went right to work searching and sadly have so far come up empty.

Good nite all who are leaving.  I'm going to stay awhile longer and search.

Yes I was thinking the same thing.  lol


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 01:33:12 AM
May 11, 2007 10:43 pm US/Pacific
Oakland Man Gets 7 Years For Fatal Shooting
OAKLAND (BCN) ― 
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numSlides of totalImages  An Oakland man was sentenced Friday to seven years in state prison for a shooting incident more than six years ago that left one associate dead and another wounded.

Gary Lawless, 30, had faced a possible term of 50 years to life if he'd been convicted of murder and attempted murder charges for the incident in the 2400 block of East 23rd Street shortly before 11 p.m. on Dec. 4, 2000, that left 25-year-old Sirreginald Gardner dead and Robert Coleman wounded.

But prosecutor Chris Lamiero allowed Lawless to plead no contest to the lesser charge of voluntary manslaughter on April 13, three weeks after jurors deadlocked 6-6 on his fate following a lengthy trial that included the shooting of a key prosecution witness.

Jurors said they had problems with the credibility of witnesses both for the prosecution and the defense.

The attempted murder charge against Lawless was dropped in exchange for his plea.

Because Lawless has been in custody since July of 2003, he will only have to serve about two more years before he is eligible for parole.

Gardner's mother, Pamela McGloughlin, told Alameda County Superior Court Judge C. Don Clay in Friday's sentencing that a seven-year sentence "is not enough time for what he (Lawless) did to my son."

McLoughlin said her son "won't rest in peace until this is resolved" with a tougher sentence for Lawless.

But Clay said prosecutors agreed to a plea bargain and light sentence for Lawless because the jury deadlocked. He said he would go along with the agreement.

However, the judge told Lawless that he was involved in "a world of guns and violence and that's not acceptable."

Lecturing his courtroom, which was filled with people waiting for other cases, Clay said, "You young men and women have to stop playing with guns and take care of each other."

In his closing argument in March, Lamiero told jurors that the shooting was sparked by a turf war over a drug-selling spot and Lawless opened fire with an assault rifle in retaliation for an incident earlier that evening in which he and several associates were threatened at gunpoint by another group of young people.

Lamiero said Lawless and his associates left the site after the first encounter and returned with guns later that night.

He said Lawless sent Gardner and another man, Robert Coleman, ahead to scout the scene but became impatient after their car broke down and they failed to give him a report on who was at the corner.

Lamiero said Lawless "saw some targets of opportunity" and opened fire, hitting his own associates, Gardner and
Coleman.

Robert Coleman is the brother of Glynn Coleman, who also was involved in the incident.

Lawless admitted on the witness stand that he's a drug dealer and a convicted child molester but denied firing any shots that night.
In his closing argument, defense attorney William DuBois accused Lamiero of putting on an "ugly stepsister of a case and trying to squeeze it into Cinderella's shoe."

He said the prosecution's witnesses were unreliable and alleged, "This case is an example of the government reaching beyond the bounds of fairness."

Lawless testified that Glynn Coleman was the person who carried out the shooting, stating that he tried to talk Coleman out of it but Coleman insisted.

Leroy Coleman, a brother of Glynn Coleman and Robert Coleman, also testified that Glynn Coleman did the shooting.

But Lamiero told jurors not to believe Leroy Coleman, reminding them that Coleman is in state prison for two murders and alleging that "Leroy couldn't even get his story straight" about what happened that night.

Glynn Coleman was shot to death while sitting in his car in the 5100 block of Bancroft Avenue, near Cole Street, in Oakland about 11:30 p.m. on March 17, 2003. That case has never been solved, according to prosecutor Lamiero.

At about 5:45 p.m. on Jan. 16 of this year, two weeks after Lawless' trial began, prosecution witness Terence Smith was shot while sitting in a van at the Coliseum BART station in Oakland. Smith survived the shooting, but wasn't able to testify.

After Friday's hearing, McLoughlin said she thinks that Lawless "will kill again" after he's released from prison in a few years.

http://cbs5.com/local/oakland.fatal.shooting.2.455487.html

hmmm so he was 30 in 2007, so would be 32 now... so I wonder if he is the one who was in the butte county jail?  sex offender, been in custody since july 2003, drug user .  and the butte court said he might be in the alameda jail. 

if this is him he is not the father, or the gary d lawless the brother of timothy as timothy's brother was born 1968 which would make him 41 now, not 32. 

I wonder if there could be a mistake in the paper on his age? hmmm

well tired now, but will look at this more tomorrow. 

if this guy was in jail inn 2007 and had a couple more years to do, did he just get out?
this article is may 11 2007, he might have just got out. 

could he be a step brother? who was born to the father gary d lawless after he divorced timothy's mother.  that would make him younger than the other boys... but would he have another son with the same name?

I don't know, will think about this tomorrow. 

I wish they would put the birthdates on the butte county court records, would certainly help ugh

my gut tells me this is the sex offender that has not registered but I have no proof,

I think so also... and I looked up the gary lawless who might have lived in oakland and it might be the one with katherine M lawless/nee robinson listed with a gary lawless and a jermaine lawless 27.  I'm too tired now to be able to remember which line this connects to.. I will work on this more tomorrow. 

I think this is the one listed with the 89 year old lawless. 

will look it all up tomorrow and sort all through it again. 

this guy could be out of jail now.  so I wonder where he is, paroled to oakland?  or did he parole elsewhere?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on April 28, 2009, 01:44:28 AM
WOW!!! ::MonkeyWink::
You Monkeys have been VERY busy today!!!(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa149/Ayani_album/smilies.gif)

With fresh eyes and a morning cup of coffee, I will read this thread more thoroughly!...
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Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 28, 2009, 01:47:21 AM
Good Morning  Lonemonkey!!!!  I just made a fresh pot of coffee and may stay up all nite !!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 28, 2009, 01:54:42 AM
Doubledecker,

I found a Timothy A Lawless with Melissa Lawless as relative on Intellius

 Timothy A Lawless
View Details
 43  Peoria, IL
Crystal Lake, IL
Metamora, IL         
Timothy A Lawless
Melissa Lawless
Jane E Lawless 

So I googled Timothy A Lawless and got a link to Kidsafe org.

http://www.ksrc.us/Leagues/asp/listn2.asp

If you scroll down to Timothy A Lawless it shows him a Deacon and unknown for the team he will coach or whatever.  Anyway I'm wondering if he gave false info to try to pass a background check so he could get involved with kids.???? 
 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on April 28, 2009, 02:08:08 AM
This is me... ::MonkeyConfused::
I've been up 5 and will be up again at the same dog gone time!
I can't wait to dig into this with you Monkeys in the morning!
G'Night All
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Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 28, 2009, 02:17:44 AM
Godnite Lonemonkey!!!

You look really, really tired.  Have a good rest!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 28, 2009, 02:20:25 AM
Link to the Church that Connie Lawless family operates
Salinas, California
http://www.alisalbaptistchurch.org/
--------------------------
St. Mary of the Nativity Catholic Church in Salinas is less than a Block from Alisal Baptist Church - I mapped it ... says less than 1 min by car ...

http://www.bishop-accountability.org/AbuseTracker/print.html
CALIFORNIA
Monterey Herald
By CLARE MOUNTEER
Guest commentary
Updated: 04/26/2009 01:36:01 AM PDT
It is not surprising that the public is shocked and confused by recent high-profile charges leveled against Melissa Huckaby, accused of the rape and murder of 8-year-old Sandra Cantu, and in our own community by sexual assault charges against the Rev. Antonio Cortes and Dr. Carl Bergstrom.

We like to think that young mothers, priests and doctors are some of the most trustworthy people in society when it comes to our personal safety. Some, like the parishioners of St. Mary's, where Cortes has been their priest, find it not just unthinkable, but unbelievable that a man who has been so helpful to so many could ever sexually violate a young boy. And there is comfort in that belief. To believe differently makes us afraid to trust anyone and makes us all vulnerable.

Although these cases have yet to be adjudicated, they do illustrate the unfortunate truth that anyone can be accused of being a perpetrator of sexual violence, and that anyone can be a victim. In these cases, two of the alleged victims are children, and one is a male. In all three cases, the victims and alleged perpetrators were known to each other.
----------
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news2009/03_04/2009_04_21_Zamudio_SalinasPriests.htm

snipped:

Four hours after the court hearing, parishioners gathered at the east Salinas church to pray. About 60 people recited a rosary for Cortes. Some parishioners said they plan to hold prayer sessions every day at 5:30 p.m. until Cortes' legal troubles are over.

"We are willing to do anything to get him out of [jail]," Bravo said.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Bail for Cortes is $750,000, but Hernandez said he plans to ask the judge to reduce it to $50,000. It is unclear who will pay for Cortes' legal defense or bail. The Diocese of Monterey County will not pay for a defense attorney or bail, said Warren Hoy, spokesman for the diocese.Hoy said Cortes received a small stipend while he worked for two years at St. Mary's, a church of roughly 5,000 parishioners.
Cortes has been the head priest at St. Mary's since June 2007 and has been with the diocese for about 12 years, including churches in Gonzales, Greenfield and Soledad, Hoy said. Cortes, 41, originally met the victim, a church member, when the boy was 14. Then, in February, Cortes gave him alcohol and began molesting him, prosecutors said. On April 14, the priest allegedly sodomized the boy, now 16.
The Salinas Police Department is investigating the case and trying to determine if there are any other victims.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 28, 2009, 02:22:57 AM
Godnite Lonemonkey!!!

You look really, really tired.  Have a good rest!

Should have been 'Goodnite Lonemonkey!!!'


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 28, 2009, 02:26:37 AM
Link to the Church that Connie Lawless family operates
Salinas, California
http://www.alisalbaptistchurch.org/
--------------------------
St. Mary of the Nativity Catholic Church in Salinas is less than a Block from Alisal Baptist Church - I mapped it ... says less than 1 min by car ...

http://www.bishop-accountability.org/AbuseTracker/print.html
CALIFORNIA
Monterey Herald
By CLARE MOUNTEER
Guest commentary
Updated: 04/26/2009 01:36:01 AM PDT
It is not surprising that the public is shocked and confused by recent high-profile charges leveled against Melissa Huckaby, accused of the rape and murder of 8-year-old Sandra Cantu, and in our own community by sexual assault charges against the Rev. Antonio Cortes and Dr. Carl Bergstrom.

We like to think that young mothers, priests and doctors are some of the most trustworthy people in society when it comes to our personal safety. Some, like the parishioners of St. Mary's, where Cortes has been their priest, find it not just unthinkable, but unbelievable that a man who has been so helpful to so many could ever sexually violate a young boy. And there is comfort in that belief. To believe differently makes us afraid to trust anyone and makes us all vulnerable.

Although these cases have yet to be adjudicated, they do illustrate the unfortunate truth that anyone can be accused of being a perpetrator of sexual violence, and that anyone can be a victim. In these cases, two of the alleged victims are children, and one is a male. In all three cases, the victims and alleged perpetrators were known to each other.
----------
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news2009/03_04/2009_04_21_Zamudio_SalinasPriests.htm

snipped:

Four hours after the court hearing, parishioners gathered at the east Salinas church to pray. About 60 people recited a rosary for Cortes. Some parishioners said they plan to hold prayer sessions every day at 5:30 p.m. until Cortes' legal troubles are over.

"We are willing to do anything to get him out of [jail]," Bravo said.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Bail for Cortes is $750,000, but Hernandez said he plans to ask the judge to reduce it to $50,000. It is unclear who will pay for Cortes' legal defense or bail. The Diocese of Monterey County will not pay for a defense attorney or bail, said Warren Hoy, spokesman for the diocese.Hoy said Cortes received a small stipend while he worked for two years at St. Mary's, a church of roughly 5,000 parishioners.
Cortes has been the head priest at St. Mary's since June 2007 and has been with the diocese for about 12 years, including churches in Gonzales, Greenfield and Soledad, Hoy said. Cortes, 41, originally met the victim, a church member, when the boy was 14. Then, in February, Cortes gave him alcohol and began molesting him, prosecutors said. On April 14, the priest allegedly sodomized the boy, now 16.
The Salinas Police Department is investigating the case and trying to determine if there are any other victims.

It must be true that some people wouldn't know evil if it walked up and slapped them in the face.  So sad...   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 28, 2009, 08:19:29 AM
Oklahoma cancelled business registrations:

3500673354 GARY D. LAWLESS MINISTRIES, L.L.C. 4245050001 Cancelled 7/1/2005


hmmm can you get any more info on this person... is there a filing of DBA or something with his birthdate or an address we can punch in?

GOOD MORNING AGAIN FROM THE EAST COAST!  We're getting closer, monkeys, much, much, closer:


LAWLESS, GARY D
(DOB: 07/1932)
 (Age: 76) 

2100 N UNION ST APT
PONCA CITY, OK 74601-1534
KAY COUNTY
(05/1995-01/1996)

I'll hunt some more. . .
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 28, 2009, 08:21:20 AM
By the way, not to complicate matters any further, but I ran an associated persons search for 6320 E 3rd Street in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and came up with a Gary, but his last name was spelled LOLLIS, not Lawless.  Is this another wrinkle?  Has anyone else seen that spelling?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 28, 2009, 08:27:56 AM
More on Gary D. Lawless from Oklahoma. Note the Kansas connection. I located this information by running a Historical Person Locator report on the Gary D. Lawless who lived at the Oklahoma address I posted above.

Historical Person Locator
This data is for informational purposes only.   
 
Finder Information
Name:   LAWLESS, GARY D
Address:   821 APACHE DR
WICHITA, KS 67207-2119
SEDGWICK COUNTY
Phone:   316-Edit-No phone numbers please
Date of Birth:   07/1932

Finder Information
Name:   LAWLESS, GARY D
Address:   5028-2 E FUNSTON ST APT 2
WICHITA, KS 67218-4361
SEDGWICK COUNTY
Phone:   316-Edit-No phone numbers please
Date of Birth:   07/1932

Finder Information
Name:   LAWLESS, GARY D
Address:   2100 N UNION ST APT
PONCA CITY, OK 74601-1534
KAY COUNTY
Date of Birth:   07/1932

Finder Information
Name:   LAWLESS, GARY D
Address:   RR 2 BOX 195
BELLE PLAINE, KS 67013
SUMNER COUNTY
Date of Birth:   07/1932


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 28, 2009, 08:34:22 AM
GARY D. LAWLESS MINISTRIES, L.L.C.

Entity Type
Domestic Limited Liability Company

Filing Number
3500673354

GARY D LAWLESS
6320 E 3RD
TULSA, OK 74112

Name Type
Legal


at this address
6320 E 3RD
TULSA, OK 74112

Possible Relatives:

LOLLIS, GARY DON (Age 54)
LOLLIS, LINDA
LOLLIS, DONNY D (Age 35)
LOLLIS, MICHAEL D (Age 35)
LOLLIS, MICHELLE JANIECE (Age 28)

Sorry if I missed it , but have we checked this address?
Gary D Lawless Age: 65+
3080 S Yale St
Wichita, KS 67210-1426

I did an historical address report on that addy.  No reports of any "lawless" or "lollis" having ever lived there.  Let me know if you want to see the report anyway, and I'll post it.  It's about 17 persons long.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 28, 2009, 08:42:54 AM
I have no idea if this is connected, but I thought it might be worth investigating.  I found it while searching for Oklahoma corporations associated with the name "Lawless."

1912154996 

LANE LAWLESS  INCORPORATOR   
Domestic For Profit Business Corporation 

Registered Agent - LAWLESS LANE
5010 S 167TH E AVE
TULSA, OK 74134   

I'm going to check out that address . . .


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 28, 2009, 08:49:22 AM
I have no idea if this is connected, but I thought it might be worth investigating.  I found it while searching for Oklahoma corporations associated with the name "Lawless."

1912154996 

LANE LAWLESS  INCORPORATOR   
Domestic For Profit Business Corporation 

Registered Agent - LAWLESS LANE
5010 S 167TH E AVE
TULSA, OK 74134   

I'm going to check out that address . . .


Sorry for cluttering the thread--no likely connection:

Name: LAWLESS, LANDON L (LANE)
Address: 5010 S 167TH EAST AVE
TULSA, OK 74134-7185
TULSA COUNTY
Date of Birth: 05/1971
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 28, 2009, 09:31:27 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

Impressive body of work you guys. Wow.

On the article posted for Gary Lawless, with the failed to register, blah blah. I am thinking the way that article is worded that he was 30 in 2000, at the time of the incident, which puts him at 39-40 now?
B


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Izzy58 on April 28, 2009, 10:14:50 AM
Morning everyone!  I have a silly question......has anyone thought about just trying to contact Chona Lawless and ask her if Timothy and Melissa are related?  I know this is really out there... but who knows, she just might talk  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Izzy58 on April 28, 2009, 11:04:52 AM
Chona Lawless Myspace page??

http://www.myspace.com/chonaisms101


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 11:22:03 AM
Doubledecker,

I found a Timothy A Lawless with Melissa Lawless as relative on Intellius

 Timothy A Lawless
View Details
 43  Peoria, IL
Crystal Lake, IL
Metamora, IL         
Timothy A Lawless
Melissa Lawless
Jane E Lawless 

So I googled Timothy A Lawless and got a link to Kidsafe org.

http://www.ksrc.us/Leagues/asp/listn2.asp

If you scroll down to Timothy A Lawless it shows him a Deacon and unknown for the team he will coach or whatever.  Anyway I'm wondering if he gave false info to try to pass a background check so he could get involved with kids.???? 
 ::MonkeyEek::

good morning, up and at it again. 

 Timothy A Lawless
Birth Date: Dec 1965
I have addresses if necessary
 
LAWLESS, TIMOTHY A (Age 43)

Associated names:

 LAWLESS, TIM D  same person
 CRYSTAL LAKE, IL
PEORIA, IL


LAWLESS, MELISSA
 CRYSTAL LAKE, IL

I can't figure out which melissa this is,
might be melissa K lawless, not sure




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Izzy58 on April 28, 2009, 11:27:52 AM
Chona Lawless Myspace page??

http://www.myspace.com/chonaisms101

Facebook
http://www.facebook.com/srch.php?nm=chona+j+lawless


Chona Lawless
RE/MAX Gold of Gold River
916-638-1177
2095 Golden Centre Ln Suite 30
Gold River, CA 95670


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Izzy58 on April 28, 2009, 11:40:09 AM

Quick Facts

Chona Lawless has set her myspace profile to private-looks like recently...       www.tracypress.com

Contact Details
Chona Lawless, Folsom, CA. (916) 986-9...   www.whitepages.com
Chona J Lawless. 3532 Debina Way, Rancho Cordova, CA. Phone Unlisted...   whitepages.addresses.com

Personal Profiles
CJ Lawless. "If you're going to judge me, you had better know the truth about me......profile.myspace.com - Deep Web Chona J Lawless...

Facebook    www.facebook.com
Chona Lawless <CJLawless>. Female, 35... [Some information require login]

Bebo    www.bebo.com - Deep Web

Professional & Business

Chona J Lawless, Lady Legendz...
Fictitious Business Names - Sacramento County, CA    www.efbn.saccounty.net - Deep Web



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 11:44:30 AM
Oklahoma cancelled business registrations:

3500673354 GARY D. LAWLESS MINISTRIES, L.L.C. 4245050001 Cancelled 7/1/2005


hmmm can you get any more info on this person... is there a filing of DBA or something with his birthdate or an address we can punch in?

GOOD MORNING AGAIN FROM THE EAST COAST!  We're getting closer, monkeys, much, much, closer:


LAWLESS, GARY D
(DOB: 07/1932)
 (Age: 76) 

2100 N UNION ST APT
PONCA CITY, OK 74601-1534
KAY COUNTY
(05/1995-01/1996)

I'll hunt some more. . .
 


catching up here,

the one above is the right age,
I have the right gary d lawless as born about 1933 on the marriage record of him married to marylin Elizabeth Tieken and also last name Short, same marriage date.

this is the mother of timothy john, Gary Duane, and Jeffrey Carl (all Lawless on birth record), aka of all is Gomes, the last name of their step father Manuel Gomes who their mother married 5 yrs later. 

let me take the info you have above for gary d lawless born 7/1932 and see what else I can find, to figure out if this guy you have is the same one as Timothy's father of record. 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Izzy58 on April 28, 2009, 11:51:17 AM
Timothy Lawless

http://208.43.55.68/search/?FirstName=timothy+&LastName=Lawless&City=&State=ca&Country=&CategoryID=2&Interface=2


Gary D Lawless

Public Records
Gary D Lawless...
Inmate information - Nebraska Department of Correc    dcs-inmatesearch.ne.gov - Deep Web

http://208.43.55.68/search/?FirstName=Gary+d&LastName=Lawless&City=&State=ca&Country=&CategoryID=2&Interface=2


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 11:52:48 AM
Parents of George W Lawless
James H Lawless
B 15 Mat 1865/66 Rockspring, Patrick VA
D Nov 1945 MO

married 14 May 1890
Tecumseh, Johnson , NE

Nancy Hanse Rowland
B 5 Jan 1865 Glasgow, Barron, KY
D 9 Dec 1945 Omark, Okanogan, WA


Children or James H  Lawless and Nancy Hanse Rowland:

Agnes Lawless
B 1893 , WA
D 10 Aug 1976, WA

Mabel Pearl Lawless
B 1890 Tecumsehm Johnson, New Brunswick, Canada
D 6 Nov 1959 Okanogan, Brewster, WA

George Webster Lawless (father of Clifford Lane Lawless)
B 28 apr 1892 Fremont, Dodge, NE
D 11 Nov 1969 WA

John Mack Lawless
B 23 Nov 1893, York, New Brunswick, Canada
D 6 Feb 1965, California

Zina Ellen Lawless
B 15 Oct 1895, New Brunswick Canada
D 22 Jul 1897 New Brunswick Canada

Willian Bryan Lawless
B 31 Aug 1897 New Brunsiwick Canada
D 15 Aug 1975 Okanogan, Brewster WA

Ralph Devere Lawless
B 1 Jan 1902 New Brunswick Canada
D 23 May 1963 Okanogan , Brewster, WA

Richard Birdette Lawless
B 1909 Washington
D 26 May 1962 Brewster, WA


More about
Agnes Lawless
B 1893 , WA
D 10 Aug 1976, WA

married

James Levi Turner
B 1889 Missouri
D 1973 washington

Children:

Ruth Kay Turner
B 1922 Washington
D 29 Aug 1998 Soap Lake, WA

James L Turner
B 1923

Donald Dee Turner
B 17 Apr 1933 Washington
D 16 Dec 1963 Washington

More about
Mabel Pearl Lawless
B 1890 Tecumsehm Johnson, New Brunswick, Canada
D 6 Nov 1959 Okanogan, Brewster, WA

Married

Leland Haley

Children:

Georgia Pearl Haley

B 1911 WA
D 1969 Okanogan, Brewster, WA

Married

Harry McCartney

Children :

Harry McCartney

More about
Willian Bryan Lawless
B 31 Aug 1897 New Brunsiwick Canada
D 15 Aug 1975 Okanogan, Brewster WA

married

Gladys Thayer
B 1898

More about
Richard Birdette Lawless
B 1909 Washington
D 26 May 1962 Brewster, WA

married

Wilma Holt


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 11:56:17 AM
just heard this on the news

pastor clifford lane lawless and wife are in Sutter County or sutter CA waiting for this to die down, no intention of closing church

okay sutter county and sutter CA are two different places but close, I have to look them up but one might be in yuba county .  these are very close to butte county and not far from sacramento either. 

I don't have time to check out which lawless live there right now, but will look later, this might help us track which lawless they are related to over there. 

right now I am working on the gary d lawless in OK born july 1932, but wanted to post this note about what was just on the news.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 12:03:51 PM
just heard this on the news

pastor clifford lane lawless and wife are in Sutter County or sutter CA waiting for this to die down, no intention of closing church

okay sutter county and sutter CA are two different places but close, I have to look them up but one might be in yuba county .  these are very close to butte county and not far from sacramento either. 

I don't have time to check out which lawless live there right now, but will look later, this might help us track which lawless they are related to over there. 

right now I am working on the gary d lawless in OK born july 1932, but wanted to post this note about what was just on the news.

Thanks.  I am putting together a family tree (see above) to figure out which branch belongs to whom.  I will look at this in a few minutes.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 12:17:38 PM
just heard this on the news

pastor clifford lane lawless and wife are in Sutter County or sutter CA waiting for this to die down, no intention of closing church

okay sutter county and sutter CA are two different places but close, I have to look them up but one might be in yuba county .  these are very close to butte county and not far from sacramento either. 

I don't have time to check out which lawless live there right now, but will look later, this might help us track which lawless they are related to over there. 

right now I am working on the gary d lawless in OK born july 1932, but wanted to post this note about what was just on the news.

Thanks.  I am putting together a family tree (see above) to figure out which branch belongs to whom.  I will look at this in a few minutes.


yes I just read your part of the tree... ok from where clifford starts with his father, I have all that on down and then I have 2 more generations back on cliffords mother's side, it is at the first part of this thread. 

now it is the father of clifford where most likely will branch off with the brothers of george w lawless, the father of clifford.  most likely it is one of the brothers of george w lawless where we will find gary d lawless coming down that line, MY Guess.

now that we have the brothers of george w, father of clifford and his brothers, we should be able to come right back down those brothers' lines and run into gary d lawless... IF, in fact he is part of this lawless family. 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 28, 2009, 12:24:26 PM
just heard this on the news

pastor clifford lane lawless and wife are in Sutter County or sutter CA waiting for this to die down, no intention of closing church


I got news for them--THIS AIN'T EVER GONNA DIE DOWN! 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 12:27:38 PM
Parents of George W Lawless
James H Lawless
B 15 Mat 1865/66 Rockspring, Patrick VA
D Nov 1945 MO

married 14 May 1890
Tecumseh, Johnson , NE

Nancy Hanse Rowland
B 5 Jan 1865 Glasgow, Barron, KY
D 9 Dec 1945 Omark, Okanogan, WA


Children or James H  Lawless and Nancy Hanse Rowland:

Agnes Lawless
B 1893 , WA
D 10 Aug 1976, WA

Mabel Pearl Lawless
B 1890 Tecumsehm Johnson, New Brunswick, Canada
D 6 Nov 1959 Okanogan, Brewster, WA

George Webster Lawless (father of Clifford Lane Lawless)
B 28 apr 1892 Fremont, Dodge, NE
D 11 Nov 1969 WA

John Mack Lawless
B 23 Nov 1893, York, New Brunswick, Canada
D 6 Feb 1965, California

Zina Ellen Lawless
B 15 Oct 1895, New Brunswick Canada
D 22 Jul 1897 New Brunswick Canada

Willian Bryan Lawless
B 31 Aug 1897 New Brunsiwick Canada
D 15 Aug 1975 Okanogan, Brewster WA

Ralph Devere Lawless
B 1 Jan 1902 New Brunswick Canada
D 23 May 1963 Okanogan , Brewster, WA

Richard Birdette Lawless
B 1909 Washington
D 26 May 1962 Brewster, WA


More about
Agnes Lawless
B 1893 , WA
D 10 Aug 1976, WA

married

James Levi Turner
B 1889 Missouri
D 1973 washington

Children:

Ruth Kay Turner
B 1922 Washington
D 29 Aug 1998 Soap Lake, WA

James L Turner
B 1923

Donald Dee Turner
B 17 Apr 1933 Washington
D 16 Dec 1963 Washington

More about
Mabel Pearl Lawless
B 1890 Tecumsehm Johnson, New Brunswick, Canada
D 6 Nov 1959 Okanogan, Brewster, WA

Married

Leland Haley

Children:

Georgia Pearl Haley

B 1911 WA
D 1969 Okanogan, Brewster, WA

Married

Harry McCartney

Children :

Harry McCartney

More about
Willian Bryan Lawless
B 31 Aug 1897 New Brunsiwick Canada
D 15 Aug 1975 Okanogan, Brewster WA

married

Gladys Thayer
B 1898

More about
Richard Birdette Lawless
B 1909 Washington
D 26 May 1962 Brewster, WA

married

Wilma Holt

more info on richard birdette lawless
he was a LODGER in this household

Name: Richard B Lawless
Home in 1930: Brewster, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910 
Birthplace: Washington 

Relation to Head of House: Lodger   
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Clarence H Whitley 40 
Hilda G Whitley 35 
Ila O Whitley 15 
Edward C Whitley 13 
Bethell M Whitley 10 
Olive M Whitley 8 
Charles Roller 67 
Amandus Benson 65 
Richard B Lawless 20   
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 12:31:22 PM
Parents of George W Lawless
James H Lawless
B 15 Mat 1865/66 Rockspring, Patrick VA
D Nov 1945 MO

married 14 May 1890
Tecumseh, Johnson , NE

Nancy Hanse Rowland
B 5 Jan 1865 Glasgow, Barron, KY
D 9 Dec 1945 Omark, Okanogan, WA


Children or James H  Lawless and Nancy Hanse Rowland:

Agnes Lawless
B 1893 , WA
D 10 Aug 1976, WA

Mabel Pearl Lawless
B 1890 Tecumsehm Johnson, New Brunswick, Canada
D 6 Nov 1959 Okanogan, Brewster, WA

George Webster Lawless (father of Clifford Lane Lawless)
B 28 apr 1892 Fremont, Dodge, NE
D 11 Nov 1969 WA

John Mack Lawless
B 23 Nov 1893, York, New Brunswick, Canada
D 6 Feb 1965, California

Zina Ellen Lawless
B 15 Oct 1895, New Brunswick Canada
D 22 Jul 1897 New Brunswick Canada

Willian Bryan Lawless
B 31 Aug 1897 New Brunsiwick Canada
D 15 Aug 1975 Okanogan, Brewster WA

Ralph Devere Lawless
B 1 Jan 1902 New Brunswick Canada
D 23 May 1963 Okanogan , Brewster, WA

Richard Birdette Lawless
B 1909 Washington
D 26 May 1962 Brewster, WA


More about
Agnes Lawless
B 1893 , WA
D 10 Aug 1976, WA

married

James Levi Turner
B 1889 Missouri
D 1973 washington

Children:

Ruth Kay Turner
B 1922 Washington
D 29 Aug 1998 Soap Lake, WA

James L Turner
B 1923

Donald Dee Turner
B 17 Apr 1933 Washington
D 16 Dec 1963 Washington

More about
Mabel Pearl Lawless
B 1890 Tecumsehm Johnson, New Brunswick, Canada
D 6 Nov 1959 Okanogan, Brewster, WA

Married

Leland Haley

Children:

Georgia Pearl Haley

B 1911 WA
D 1969 Okanogan, Brewster, WA

Married

Harry McCartney

Children :

Harry McCartney

More about
Willian Bryan Lawless
B 31 Aug 1897 New Brunsiwick Canada
D 15 Aug 1975 Okanogan, Brewster WA

married

Gladys Thayer
B 1898

More about
Richard Birdette Lawless
B 1909 Washington
D 26 May 1962 Brewster, WA

married

Wilma Holt

more info on richard birdette lawless
he was a LODGER in this household

Name: Richard B Lawless
Home in 1930: Brewster, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910 
Birthplace: Washington 

Relation to Head of House: Lodger   
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Clarence H Whitley 40 
Hilda G Whitley 35 
Ila O Whitley 15 
Edward C Whitley 13 
Bethell M Whitley 10 
Olive M Whitley 8 
Charles Roller 67 
Amandus Benson 65 
Richard B Lawless 20   
 


here is NANCY, the mother of George W lawless, father of clifford lane lawless.
this is where I was working UP last night.
James the father of george w lawless is no longer in the household?  did he die? remarry?  lets hope he did not remarry and end up with another whole line from him somewhere.

Name: Richard D Lawless
Home in 1920: Bodie, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 9 years 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1911
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head of House: Son 
Father's Birth Place: Indiana 
Mother's Name: Nancy W
Mother's Birth Place: Illinois 
Marital Status: Single 
Race: White
Sex: Male
Image: 171 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Nancy W Lawless 54 
George W Lawless 27 
William B Lawless 22 
Ralph D Lawless 18 
Agnes A Lawless 15 
Richard D Lawless 9 
Mabel P Heley 28 
Georgie P Heley 8 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 28, 2009, 12:33:28 PM
just heard this on the news

pastor clifford lane lawless and wife are in Sutter County or sutter CA waiting for this to die down, no intention of closing church

okay sutter county and sutter CA are two different places but close, I have to look them up but one might be in yuba county .  these are very close to butte county and not far from sacramento either. 

I don't have time to check out which lawless live there right now, but will look later, this might help us track which lawless they are related to over there. 

right now I am working on the gary d lawless in OK born july 1932, but wanted to post this note about what was just on the news.

Lawless' in Sutter (Yuba County) and Sutter County:

 No.   Full Name   Address/Phone
       
1.  SALVATO, MARY J
LAWLESS, MARY J
(DOB: 07/1959)
(Age: 49)
PO BOX 244
OLIVEHURST, CA 95961-0244
YUBA COUNTY
(01/2000-Current)

1644 2ND AVE
OLIVEHURST, CA 95961-4003
YUBA COUNTY
(11/2007-09/2008)

1875 N TOWNSHIP RD
YUBA CITY, CA 95993-9661
SUTTER COUNTY
(09/2004-09/2006)

1642 2ND AVE
OLIVEHURST, CA 95961-4003
YUBA COUNTY
(10/1999-09/2006)


       
2.  LAWLESS, CLAUDE
1482 SKY HARBOR DR # 13
MARYSVILLE, CA 95901-7470
YUBA COUNTY
(09/1991-Current)


       
3.  LAWLESS, SHARON L
(DOB: 1956)
(Age: 53)           
1574 HEATHER DR APT 106
YUBA CITY, CA 95993-2214
SUTTER COUNTY
(01/1983-Current)

500 KING AVE APT 16
YUBA CITY, CA 95991-2846
SUTTER COUNTY
(01/1983-01/1983)

4.  LAWLES, JOHN
LAWLESS, JOHN
4356 TWAIN DR
MARYSVILLE, CA 95901-7549
YUBA COUNTY
(04/2000-09/2002)

5.  LAWLESS, MARY FRANCES
LAWLESS, MARY F
LAWLESS, MARY
(DOB: 01/1962)
(Age: 47)       
3203 SCHULER DR
BOSSIER CITY, LA 71112-5125
BOSSIER COUNTY
(08/2002-Current)

PSC BOX 1936
APO, AE 09494
(03/1997-03/1997)

3330 WAVERLY DR
BEALE AFB, CA 95903-2128
YUBA COUNTY
(02/1995-02/1995)

4632 LARK DR
BEALE AFB, CA 95903-2529
YUBA COUNTY
(06/1994-06/1994)

PSC 50 BOX 1936
APO, AE 09494-9998


       
6.  LAWLESS, ROBERT JAMES
LAWLESS, ROBERT J
LAWLESS, ROBERT
(DOB: 04/1960)
(Age: 49)
3203 SCHULER DR
BOSSIER CITY, LA 71112-5125
BOSSIER COUNTY
(06/2002-Current)

3330 WAVERLY DR
BEALE AFB, CA 95903-2128
YUBA COUNTY
(01/1995-01/1995)

4632 LARK DR
BEALE AFB, CA 95903-2529
YUBA COUNTY
(05/1994-05/1994)

PSC 14 BOX 5095
APO NEW YORK, NY 09192
(04/1992-12/1992)

PSC 10 BOX 2225
APO NEW YORK, NY 09130
(04/1992-04/1992)

PSC 1 BOX 5095
APO NEW YORK, NY 09633
(01/1990-12/1991)

PSC 50 BOX 1936
APO, AE 09494-9998


7.  LAWLESS, WILLIAM DEAN
LAWLESS, WILLIAM D
PO BOX 14
ARBUCKLE, CA 95912-0014
COLUSA COUNTY
(06/2006-Current)
       
8. OTIS, MARGARET L
LAWLESS, MARGARET L
(DOB: 04/1959)
(Age: 50)       
4104 VILLA DR
REDDING, CA 96001-2901
SHASTA COUNTY
(02/1986-Current)
OTIS LARRY D
(02/1986-Current)


2349 FOOTHILL BLVD
OROVILLE, CA 95966-5520
BUTTE COUNTY
(10/1985-04/1986)
    
9. LAWLESS, ANTHONY A   
3249 RIDGE DR
BEALE AFB, CA 95903-2139
YUBA COUNTY
(01/1990-Current)

10. LAWLESS, ROGER
645 TREELINE DR ST
SMARTVILLE, CA 95977
NEVADA COUNTY
(03/2005-10/2005)

11.  LALLIS-MARTINEZ, MAXINE
LAWLESS MARTINEZ, MAXINE M
2449 BALDWIN AVE
PALERMO, CA 95968-9756
BUTTE COUNTY
(08/2002-Current)




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 12:34:27 PM
just heard this on the news

pastor clifford lane lawless and wife are in Sutter County or sutter CA waiting for this to die down, no intention of closing church

okay sutter county and sutter CA are two different places but close, I have to look them up but one might be in yuba county .  these are very close to butte county and not far from sacramento either. 

I don't have time to check out which lawless live there right now, but will look later, this might help us track which lawless they are related to over there. 

right now I am working on the gary d lawless in OK born july 1932, but wanted to post this note about what was just on the news.

Thanks.  I am putting together a family tree (see above) to figure out which branch belongs to whom.  I will look at this in a few minutes.


yes I just read your part of the tree... ok from where clifford starts with his father, I have all that on down and then I have 2 more generations back on cliffords mother's side, it is at the first part of this thread. 

now it is the father of clifford where most likely will branch off with the brothers of george w lawless, the father of clifford.  most likely it is one of the brothers of george w lawless where we will find gary d lawless coming down that line, MY Guess.

now that we have the brothers of george w, father of clifford and his brothers, we should be able to come right back down those brothers' lines and run into gary d lawless... IF, in fact he is part of this lawless family. 

We are on the same wave length.  I think it will catch up with one of George W's siblings branches and there are many as you can see.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 12:41:18 PM
Parents of George W Lawless
James H Lawless
B 15 Mat 1865/66 Rockspring, Patrick VA
D Nov 1945 MO

married 14 May 1890
Tecumseh, Johnson , NE

Nancy Hanse Rowland
B 5 Jan 1865 Glasgow, Barron, KY
D 9 Dec 1945 Omark, Okanogan, WA


Children or James H  Lawless and Nancy Hanse Rowland:

Agnes Lawless
B 1893 , WA
D 10 Aug 1976, WA

Mabel Pearl Lawless
B 1890 Tecumsehm Johnson, New Brunswick, Canada
D 6 Nov 1959 Okanogan, Brewster, WA

George Webster Lawless (father of Clifford Lane Lawless)
B 28 apr 1892 Fremont, Dodge, NE
D 11 Nov 1969 WA

John Mack Lawless
B 23 Nov 1893, York, New Brunswick, Canada
D 6 Feb 1965, California

Zina Ellen Lawless
B 15 Oct 1895, New Brunswick Canada
D 22 Jul 1897 New Brunswick Canada

Willian Bryan Lawless
B 31 Aug 1897 New Brunsiwick Canada
D 15 Aug 1975 Okanogan, Brewster WA

Ralph Devere Lawless
B 1 Jan 1902 New Brunswick Canada
D 23 May 1963 Okanogan , Brewster, WA

Richard Birdette Lawless
B 1909 Washington
D 26 May 1962 Brewster, WA


More about
Agnes Lawless
B 1893 , WA
D 10 Aug 1976, WA

married

James Levi Turner
B 1889 Missouri
D 1973 washington

Children:

Ruth Kay Turner
B 1922 Washington
D 29 Aug 1998 Soap Lake, WA

James L Turner
B 1923

Donald Dee Turner
B 17 Apr 1933 Washington
D 16 Dec 1963 Washington

More about
Mabel Pearl Lawless
B 1890 Tecumsehm Johnson, New Brunswick, Canada
D 6 Nov 1959 Okanogan, Brewster, WA

Married

Leland Haley

Children:

Georgia Pearl Haley

B 1911 WA
D 1969 Okanogan, Brewster, WA

Married

Harry McCartney

Children :

Harry McCartney

More about
Willian Bryan Lawless
B 31 Aug 1897 New Brunsiwick Canada
D 15 Aug 1975 Okanogan, Brewster WA

married

Gladys Thayer
B 1898

More about
Richard Birdette Lawless
B 1909 Washington
D 26 May 1962 Brewster, WA

married

Wilma Holt

more info on richard birdette lawless
he was a LODGER in this household

Name: Richard B Lawless
Home in 1930: Brewster, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910 
Birthplace: Washington 

Relation to Head of House: Lodger   
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Clarence H Whitley 40 
Hilda G Whitley 35 
Ila O Whitley 15 
Edward C Whitley 13 
Bethell M Whitley 10 
Olive M Whitley 8 
Charles Roller 67 
Amandus Benson 65 
Richard B Lawless 20   
 


here is NANCY, the mother of George W lawless, father of clifford lane lawless.
this is where I was working UP last night.
James the father of george w lawless is no longer in the household?  did he die? remarry?  lets hope he did not remarry and end up with another whole line from him somewhere.

Name: Richard D Lawless
Home in 1920: Bodie, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 9 years 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1911
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head of House: Son 
Father's Birth Place: Indiana 
Mother's Name: Nancy W
Mother's Birth Place: Illinois 
Marital Status: Single 
Race: White
Sex: Male
Image: 171 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Nancy W Lawless 54 
George W Lawless 27 
William B Lawless 22 
Ralph D Lawless 18 
Agnes A Lawless 15 
Richard D Lawless 9 
Mabel P Heley 28 
Georgie P Heley 8 
 


James Lawless - Nancy's husband was still alive in 1920.  He died in 1945 as did she.  I was concerned that he may have remarried as well as they both pass within a month of each other but in different states. 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 12:46:43 PM
Parents of George W Lawless
James H Lawless
B 15 Mat 1865/66 Rockspring, Patrick VA
D Nov 1945 MO

married 14 May 1890
Tecumseh, Johnson , NE

Nancy Hanse Rowland
B 5 Jan 1865 Glasgow, Barron, KY
D 9 Dec 1945 Omark, Okanogan, WA


Children or James H  Lawless and Nancy Hanse Rowland:

Agnes Lawless
B 1893 , WA
D 10 Aug 1976, WA

Mabel Pearl Lawless
B 1890 Tecumsehm Johnson, New Brunswick, Canada
D 6 Nov 1959 Okanogan, Brewster, WA

George Webster Lawless (father of Clifford Lane Lawless)
B 28 apr 1892 Fremont, Dodge, NE
D 11 Nov 1969 WA

John Mack Lawless
B 23 Nov 1893, York, New Brunswick, Canada
D 6 Feb 1965, California

Zina Ellen Lawless
B 15 Oct 1895, New Brunswick Canada
D 22 Jul 1897 New Brunswick Canada

Willian Bryan Lawless
B 31 Aug 1897 New Brunsiwick Canada
D 15 Aug 1975 Okanogan, Brewster WA

Ralph Devere Lawless
B 1 Jan 1902 New Brunswick Canada
D 23 May 1963 Okanogan , Brewster, WA

Richard Birdette Lawless
B 1909 Washington
D 26 May 1962 Brewster, WA


More about
Agnes Lawless
B 1893 , WA
D 10 Aug 1976, WA

married

James Levi Turner
B 1889 Missouri
D 1973 washington

Children:

Ruth Kay Turner
B 1922 Washington
D 29 Aug 1998 Soap Lake, WA

James L Turner
B 1923

Donald Dee Turner
B 17 Apr 1933 Washington
D 16 Dec 1963 Washington

More about
Mabel Pearl Lawless
B 1890 Tecumsehm Johnson, New Brunswick, Canada
D 6 Nov 1959 Okanogan, Brewster, WA

Married

Leland Haley

Children:

Georgia Pearl Haley

B 1911 WA
D 1969 Okanogan, Brewster, WA

Married

Harry McCartney

Children :

Harry McCartney

More about
Willian Bryan Lawless
B 31 Aug 1897 New Brunsiwick Canada
D 15 Aug 1975 Okanogan, Brewster WA

married

Gladys Thayer
B 1898

More about
Richard Birdette Lawless
B 1909 Washington
D 26 May 1962 Brewster, WA

married

Wilma Holt

more info on richard birdette lawless
he was a LODGER in this household

Name: Richard B Lawless
Home in 1930: Brewster, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910 
Birthplace: Washington 

Relation to Head of House: Lodger   
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Clarence H Whitley 40 
Hilda G Whitley 35 
Ila O Whitley 15 
Edward C Whitley 13 
Bethell M Whitley 10 
Olive M Whitley 8 
Charles Roller 67 
Amandus Benson 65 
Richard B Lawless 20   
 


here is NANCY, the mother of George W lawless, father of clifford lane lawless.
this is where I was working UP last night.
James the father of george w lawless is no longer in the household?  did he die? remarry?  lets hope he did not remarry and end up with another whole line from him somewhere.

Name: Richard D Lawless
Home in 1920: Bodie, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 9 years 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1911
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head of House: Son 
Father's Birth Place: Indiana 
Mother's Name: Nancy W
Mother's Birth Place: Illinois 
Marital Status: Single 
Race: White
Sex: Male
Image: 171 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Nancy W Lawless 54 
George W Lawless 27 
William B Lawless 22 
Ralph D Lawless 18 
Agnes A Lawless 15 
Richard D Lawless 9 
Mabel P Heley 28 
Georgie P Heley 8 
 


ok this has different states listed for the births of parents etc and the child, but this is off of the census.  but is definitely the same family.

when you start getting back this far in genealogy it is common to have errors on the records, but this is showing the family living in Malaga, Chelan, Washington in 1910 census. 

Malaga, Chelan, Washington


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 12:50:50 PM
ooops didn't post the record haha

here it is


ok this has different states listed for the births of parents etc and the child, but this is off of the census.  but is definitely the same family.

when you start getting back this far in genealogy it is common to have errors on the records, but this is showing the family living in Malaga, Chelan, Washington in 1910 census. 


1910 United States Federal Census
about John M Lawless
Name: John M Lawless
Age in 1910: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Birthplace: Nebraska
Relation to Head of House: Son 
Father's Name: James H W
Father's Birth Place: Indiana 
Mother's Name: Nancy H 
Mother's Birth Place: Kentucky 
Home in 1910: Malaga, Chelan, Washington
Marital Status: Single 
Race: White
Gender: Male 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
James H W Lawless 43 grandparents of CLL
Nancy H Lawless 45 
 
George W Lawless 17  father of clifford lane lawless
John M Lawless 16  john mack lawless, uncle of clifford lane lawless
William B Lawless 12  Uncle of CLL
Ralph D Lawless 8  Uncle of CCL
Agnes A Lawless 6  aunt of CLL
Bardette Lawless 1/12  uncle or aunt of CLL
 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 12:56:14 PM
just heard this on the news

pastor clifford lane lawless and wife are in Sutter County or sutter CA waiting for this to die down, no intention of closing church

okay sutter county and sutter CA are two different places but close, I have to look them up but one might be in yuba county .  these are very close to butte county and not far from sacramento either. 

I don't have time to check out which lawless live there right now, but will look later, this might help us track which lawless they are related to over there. 

right now I am working on the gary d lawless in OK born july 1932, but wanted to post this note about what was just on the news.

Thanks.  I am putting together a family tree (see above) to figure out which branch belongs to whom.  I will look at this in a few minutes.


yes I just read your part of the tree... ok from where clifford starts with his father, I have all that on down and then I have 2 more generations back on cliffords mother's side, it is at the first part of this thread. 

now it is the father of clifford where most likely will branch off with the brothers of george w lawless, the father of clifford.  most likely it is one of the brothers of george w lawless where we will find gary d lawless coming down that line, MY Guess.

now that we have the brothers of george w, father of clifford and his brothers, we should be able to come right back down those brothers' lines and run into gary d lawless... IF, in fact he is part of this lawless family. 

We are on the same wave length.  I think it will catch up with one of George W's siblings branches and there are many as you can see.

I think also it will be the brother of george w lawless(father of clifford lane lawless)
it will be one of george's kids, an uncle of CLL, who will come down and run into Gary D lawless... I HOPE LOL...

heck james was not  in the household of nancy way back there on the census, so he might have left and remarried someone and started a whole new line of lawless.  LOL   lets hope not ugh. 

ok I will keep digging and we can piece this together.  we have to find gary d lawless, father of timothy john lawless somewhere in this mess.  LOL


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 01:08:20 PM
Name: John M Lawless
Birth Date: Nov 1958
Phone Number: Edit-No phone numbers please
Address: Pob 1614, Chelan, Washington 98816-0701 (1993)
[836 S Bridge St, Brewster, Washington 98812]
[318 E Trow, Chelan, Washington 98816] 


Pob 1614, Chelan, Washington
CHELAN, WA
BREWSTER, WA
MANSON, WA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, JOHN M (Age 50)
 


Pob 1614, Chelan, Washington
CHELAN, WA
BREWSTER, WA
MANSON, WA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, LISA G (Age 38) 


836 S Bridge St, Brewster, Washington
CHELAN, WA
BREWSTER, WA
MANSON, WA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, JOHN M (Age 50)



836 S Bridge St, Brewster, Washington

 CHELAN, WA
BREWSTER, WA
MANSON, WA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, LISA G (Age 38)



318 E Trow, Chelan, Washington

don't find lawless name here, but found a JOHNSON, and there are a lot of JOHNSONS in the other addresses above. there is a nancy johnson at this address age 89

if we need this later I will post all the names at these addresses, but for now just leave this with the John M Lawless.  He has to be one of the kids of someone.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 01:21:28 PM

1910

Name: James H W Lawless
Age in 1910: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Birthplace: Indiana  
Relation to Head of House: Head 
Father's Birth Place: United States of America 
Mother's Birth Place: United States of America 
Spouse's Name: Nancy H
Home in 1910: Malaga, Chelan, Washington  
Marital Status: Married 
Race: White
Gender: Male 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
James H W Lawless 43 
Nancy H Lawless 45 
George W Lawless 17  father of CLL
John M Lawless 16 
William B Lawless 12 
Ralph D Lawless 8 
Agnes A Lawless 6 
Bardette Lawless 1/12  this is richard bardette lawless
 
 so james is living with nancy on 1910 census, but depending on when they took the census this could be anytime within 10 years before 1910 that he was there.



1920

by 1920 census James, husband of Nancy is gone out of the house.
so he left sometime between 1910 and 1920.


Name: Richard D Lawless son of nancy and james, uncle of CLL
Home in 1920: Bodie, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 9 years 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1911
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head of House: Son 
Father's Birth Place: Indiana 
Mother's Name: Nancy W
Mother's Birth Place: Illinois 
Marital Status: Single 
Race: White
Sex: Male
Image: 171 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Nancy W Lawless 54 
George W Lawless 27  father of CLL
William B Lawless 22 
Ralph D Lawless 18 
Agnes A Lawless 15 
Richard D Lawless 9  he goes to live with other family on 1930 census- see below
Mabel P Heley 28 
Georgie P Heley 8 

1930

everyone gone but Mabel P Haley 39

Name: Nancy H Lawless
Home in 1930: Brewster, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 65

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 
Birthplace: Kentucky 
Relation to Head of House: Head 
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Nancy H Lawless 65  
Mabel P Haley 39


richard now with other family
Name: Richard B Lawless this is richard bargette lawlessHome in 1930: Brewster, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910 
Birthplace: Washington 
Relation to Head of House: Lodger 
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Clarence H Whitley 40 
Hilda G Whitley 35 
Ila O Whitley 15 
Edward C Whitley 13 
Bethell M Whitley 10 
Olive M Whitley 8 
Charles Roller 67 
Amandus Benson 65 
Richard B Lawless 20   living with another family now
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 01:34:02 PM
First sister Agnes.  Doubt highly it is this branch.

Agnes Ada Lawless
B 17 Mar 1904, Bernita or Chelan  , WA
D 10 Aug 1976, Soap Lake WA

married 8 Apr 1922 Okanogan, Washington

James Levi Turner
B 1889 Missouri
D 1973 washington

             Children:

           1. Ruth Kay Turner
           B 10 Jul 1922  Tenino Washington
           D 29 Aug 1998 Soap Lake, WA

Married 1 Jun 1949 Soap Lake, Gant County, Washington

Gilbert (Gib) Leroy Lester
B 8 Sep 1921, Iowa
D 26 Nov 1998 Soap Lake, Washington
Gilbert L. Lester
Gilbert L. Lester, 77, of Soap Lake, died Thursday, Nov. 26, 1998, in Wenatchee. He was a retired farmer and a longtime resident of Soap Lake. Survivors include two sons, Vern of Chelan and Bert of Wenatchee. Funeral services will be held at 10 a.m. Friday at Nicoles Funeral Home in Ephrata, Pastor Robert Deviney officiating. Burial will follow at the Odessa Cemetery. Arrangements are by Nicoles Funeral Home.
Children:

1. Vern Lee Lester of Chelan

2. Gilbert Leroy Lester of Wenatchee
   
2. James Lee Turner
B 22 Aug 1923 Tenino, Thurston County, Washington
D 11 Apr 1997, Soap Lake, Grant County, WA

3. Donald Dee Turner
B 17 Apr 1933 Grant Orchard, Washington
D 16 Dec 1963  Republic, Washington


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on April 28, 2009, 01:37:26 PM
By the way, not to complicate matters any further, but I ran an associated persons search for 6320 E 3rd Street in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and came up with a Gary, but his last name was spelled LOLLIS, not Lawless.  Is this another wrinkle?  Has anyone else seen that spelling?


Me thinks ::MonkeyEek::
There's TOO many alias'....I wonder how deep this will all go???
Feels and seems big, but it might just be me! ::MonkeyConfused::

I will research thru the day...in and out.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 01:38:39 PM
here is nancy H Lawless/nee Rowland married James H Lawless, father of george W Lawless, who is the father of CLL

Name: Nancy H. Rowland
Home in 1880: Glasgow Junction, Barren, Kentucky
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Birthplace: Kentucky
Relation to Head of Household: Daughter
Father's Name: George W.
Father's birthplace: Kentucky
Mother's Name: Martha E.
Mother's birthplace: Kentucky
Neighbors: View others on page 
Occupation: Helping Keep House
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Female
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane: View Image
Household Members: Name Age
George W. Rowland 54 
Martha E. Rowland 41 
Wm. Wade Rowland 20 
Jos. B. Rowland 19 
Lucy Rowland 17 
Nancy H. Rowland 15 
Minnie L. Rowland 12 
John C. Rowland 11 
James T. Rowland 9 
Judy T. Rowland 6 
Martha B. Rowland 4 
Genie P. Rowland 2 
Martin Sartain 26 
 




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on April 28, 2009, 01:48:36 PM
DoubleDeck!!!
I enjoy your posts!  Great Info.
I am new too! ::MonkeyDance::
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Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 01:51:14 PM
Sister number 2 :

Mabel Pearl Lawless
B 14 Feb 1891 Tecumsehm Johnson, New Brunswick, Canada
D 26 Nov 1959 Okanogan, Brewster, WA

Married

Leland Haley


Children:
Georgia Pearl Haley
B 1911 WA
D 1969 Okanogan, Brewster, WA

1st Marriage

Barney Sachse

   Children:
   Male Sachse

2nd Marriage 20 Oct 1928 Brewster, WA

Harry McCartney


Children :

Harry McCartney
Female McCartney


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 01:52:18 PM
By the way, not to complicate matters any further, but I ran an associated persons search for 6320 E 3rd Street in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and came up with a Gary, but his last name was spelled LOLLIS, not Lawless.  Is this another wrinkle?  Has anyone else seen that spelling?


Me thinks ::MonkeyEek::
There's TOO many alias'....I wonder how deep this will all go???
Feels and seems big, but it might just be me! ::MonkeyConfused::

I will research thru the day...in and out.


LOLLIS is coming up as an alternative spelling in my genealogy databases


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: GramaMonkey on April 28, 2009, 01:57:23 PM
Sorry, if someone has already responded to this.  I had posted it amidst the change to the new thread.

I was curious if Timothy Lawless had any children of his own.  If indeed, a son, is he also a pastor??? 

Thanks,

WELCOME TO THE NEW MONKEY'S...YOUR DOING A SUPER JOB. 
 ::MonkeyDance::  ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 01:58:39 PM

1910

Name: James H W Lawless
Age in 1910: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Birthplace: Indiana  
Relation to Head of House: Head 
Father's Birth Place: United States of America 
Mother's Birth Place: United States of America 
Spouse's Name: Nancy H
Home in 1910: Malaga, Chelan, Washington  
Marital Status: Married 
Race: White
Gender: Male 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
James H W Lawless 43 
Nancy H Lawless 45 
George W Lawless 17  father of CLL
John M Lawless 16 
William B Lawless 12 
Ralph D Lawless 8 
Agnes A Lawless 6 
Bardette Lawless 1/12  this is richard bardette lawless
 
 so james is living with nancy on 1910 census, but depending on when they took the census this could be anytime within 10 years before 1910 that he was there.



1920

by 1920 census James, husband of Nancy is gone out of the house.
so he left sometime between 1910 and 1920.


Name: Richard D Lawless son of nancy and james, uncle of CLL
Home in 1920: Bodie, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 9 years 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1911
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head of House: Son 
Father's Birth Place: Indiana 
Mother's Name: Nancy W
Mother's Birth Place: Illinois 
Marital Status: Single 
Race: White
Sex: Male
Image: 171 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Nancy W Lawless 54 
George W Lawless 27  father of CLL
William B Lawless 22 
Ralph D Lawless 18 
Agnes A Lawless 15 
Richard D Lawless 9  he goes to live with other family on 1930 census- see below
Mabel P Heley 28 
Georgie P Heley 8 

1930

everyone gone but Mabel P Haley 39

Name: Nancy H Lawless
Home in 1930: Brewster, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 65

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 
Birthplace: Kentucky 
Relation to Head of House: Head 
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Nancy H Lawless 65  
Mabel P Haley 39


richard now with other family
Name: Richard B Lawless this is richard bargette lawlessHome in 1930: Brewster, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910 
Birthplace: Washington 
Relation to Head of House: Lodger 
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Clarence H Whitley 40 
Hilda G Whitley 35 
Ila O Whitley 15 
Edward C Whitley 13 
Bethell M Whitley 10 
Olive M Whitley 8 
Charles Roller 67 
Amandus Benson 65 
Richard B Lawless 20   living with another family now
 


1920 Census - James and son John Mack are gone.  Did Dad James take son John with him?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 02:08:04 PM
hmmm maybe he did, father james H lawless took John Mack with him


John make lawless ends up dying in los angeles california

the gary d lawless we are looking for was born about 1933. 
maybe we can find the obit to this john mack lawless and see if gary pops up as a son.  john mack would be about 31 when gary d is born.  gary's son's middle name is John(timothy john lawless)

let me go look more

Name: John M Lawless
Social Security #: ((edit - please do not post SS numbers) 
Sex: MALE 
Birth Date: 23 Nov 1894
Birthplace: Nebraska 
Death Date: 6 Feb 1965
Death Place: Los Angeles 
Mother's Maiden Name: Rowland 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 28, 2009, 02:12:18 PM
just heard this on the news

pastor clifford lane lawless and wife are in Sutter County or sutter CA waiting for this to die down, no intention of closing church

okay sutter county and sutter CA are two different places but close, I have to look them up but one might be in yuba county .  these are very close to butte county and not far from sacramento either. 

I don't have time to check out which lawless live there right now, but will look later, this might help us track which lawless they are related to over there. 

right now I am working on the gary d lawless in OK born july 1932, but wanted to post this note about what was just on the news.

Thanks.  I am putting together a family tree (see above) to figure out which branch belongs to whom.  I will look at this in a few minutes.


yes I just read your part of the tree... ok from where clifford starts with his father, I have all that on down and then I have 2 more generations back on cliffords mother's side, it is at the first part of this thread. 

now it is the father of clifford where most likely will branch off with the brothers of george w lawless, the father of clifford.  most likely it is one of the brothers of george w lawless where we will find gary d lawless coming down that line, MY Guess.

now that we have the brothers of george w, father of clifford and his brothers, we should be able to come right back down those brothers' lines and run into gary d lawless... IF, in fact he is part of this lawless family. 

We are on the same wave length.  I think it will catch up with one of George W's siblings branches and there are many as you can see.

I think also it will be the brother of george w lawless(father of clifford lane lawless)
it will be one of george's kids, an uncle of CLL, who will come down and run into Gary D lawless... I HOPE LOL...

heck james was not  in the household of nancy way back there on the census, so he might have left and remarried someone and started a whole new line of lawless.  LOL   lets hope not ugh. 

ok I will keep digging and we can piece this together.  we have to find gary d lawless, father of timothy john lawless somewhere in this mess.  LOL

WHOA

Dale Johnson?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 02:12:51 PM
making a note of this, just ran into it

middle name is john, and is in NAPA, where gary d lawless and marylin tieken(parents of timothy john lawless) were married.  probably not anyone as he is born in cali in 1864 and all the other lawless seem to be in washington, but just sticking this here for later.

he did die in napa 10 years after gary d lawless is born
hmmm wonder if gary d lawless was born in Napa?  he got married there.
Name: William John Lawless
Social Security #: 0 
Sex: MALE 
Birth Date: 21 Jun 1864
Birthplace: California 
Death Date: 16 Sep 1943
Death Place: Napa 
Mother's Maiden Name: Lully 
FATHER'S SURNAME: Lawless 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 28, 2009, 02:19:40 PM
here is nancy H Lawless/nee Rowland married James H Lawless, father of george W Lawless, who is the father of CLL

Name: Nancy H. Rowland
Home in 1880: Glasgow Junction, Barren, Kentucky
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Birthplace: Kentucky
Relation to Head of Household: Daughter
Father's Name: George W.
Father's birthplace: Kentucky
Mother's Name: Martha E.
Mother's birthplace: Kentucky
Neighbors: View others on page 
Occupation: Helping Keep House
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Female
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane: View Image
Household Members: Name Age
George W. Rowland 54 
Martha E. Rowland 41 
Wm. Wade Rowland 20 
Jos. B. Rowland 19 
Lucy Rowland 17 
Nancy H. Rowland 15 
Minnie L. Rowland 12 
John C. Rowland 11 
James T. Rowland 9 
Judy T. Rowland 6 
Martha B. Rowland 4 
Genie P. Rowland 2 
Martin Sartain 26 
 




Lol, sorry could not resist, are you sure there was not a "check" next to idiot or insane?

Doubledecker, if you did not start out with that name, you would have earned it by post size alone :)

Everyone on here pat yourself on the back, this thread was started yesterday, that's amazing. I dont want to bust the groove until your ready, and then I have 2 more names to throw at you to compare addresses to what you have already. I'm seeing a pattern potentially.

You guys are awesome monkeys 
B


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 28, 2009, 02:29:32 PM
Afternoon all!

This is mind boggling and I'm not finding much.

I did find domain registration for Next Opportunity, Inc.  Do we already have this?  If not, which thread should I post it in.  It shows Tim Lawless and the Rancho Cordova address.  Also Godaddy.com


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 02:44:05 PM
here is nancy H Lawless/nee Rowland married James H Lawless, father of george W Lawless, who is the father of CLL

Name: Nancy H. Rowland
Home in 1880: Glasgow Junction, Barren, Kentucky
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Birthplace: Kentucky
Relation to Head of Household: Daughter
Father's Name: George W.
Father's birthplace: Kentucky
Mother's Name: Martha E.
Mother's birthplace: Kentucky
Neighbors: View others on page 
Occupation: Helping Keep House
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Female
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane: View Image
Household Members: Name Age
George W. Rowland 54 
Martha E. Rowland 41 
Wm. Wade Rowland 20 
Jos. B. Rowland 19 
Lucy Rowland 17 
Nancy H. Rowland 15 
Minnie L. Rowland 12 
John C. Rowland 11 
James T. Rowland 9 
Judy T. Rowland 6 
Martha B. Rowland 4 
Genie P. Rowland 2 
Martin Sartain 26 
 




Lol, sorry could not resist, are you sure there was not a "check" next to idiot or insane?

Doubledecker, if you did not start out with that name, you would have earned it by post size alone :)

Everyone on here pat yourself on the back, this thread was started yesterday, that's amazing. I dont want to bust the groove until your ready, and then I have 2 more names to throw at you to compare addresses to what you have already. I'm seeing a pattern potentially.

You guys are awesome monkeys 
B

Nancy Hanse Rowland/Lawless is the daughter of

George Washington Rowland
B 1826 , KY
D 1890 Glasgow, Barron, KY
(George W Rowland was the postmaster of Burkesvillem, KY which is 7 miles from Glasgow on the Fallen Timber Creek)
and

Martha Emaline Bailey
B. 2 Apr 1839, Glasgow, Barren, KY
D Glasgow, Barron KY

George Washington Rowland and Martha Emaline Bailey had the following children:

 Mary Susan ROWLAND b: 1858 in ,Barron,KY
 Alice Hall ROWLAND b: 1858 in ,Barron,KY
 William Wade ROWLAND b: 1859 in ,Barron,KY
 Joseph B. ROWLAND b: 1861 in ,Barron,KY
 LUCY Ann ROWLAND b: 6 Sep 1863 in ,Barron,KY
 Nancy Hanse ROWLAND b: 5 Jan 1865 in Glasgow,Barron,KY
 Minnie Lee ROWLAND b: 1868 in ,Barron,KY
 John C. ROWLAND b: May 1869 in ,Barron,KY
 Grant ROWLAND b: 2 Jan 1870 in ,Barron,KY
 James T. ROWLAND b: 1871 in ,Barron,KY
 Judah I. ROWLAND b: 29 Aug 1873 in ,Barron,KY
 Martha Bell ROWLAND b: 1876 in ,Barron,KY
 Genie Pearl ROWLAND b: 1878 in ,Barron,KY
 Clement H. ROWLAND b: 1880 in ,Barron,KY


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 02:44:54 PM
James H. Lawless left his family in Brewster, WA in 1918

he returns 20 years later in 1938
who knows where he was - prison?  remarried? (oh how nice, another family?)
He stays a few months, then leaves again

next heard about someone is requesting burial funds for him somewhere in Missouri in November of 1945



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 28, 2009, 02:45:43 PM
Afternoon all!

This is mind boggling and I'm not finding much.

I did find domain registration for Next Opportunity, Inc.  Do we already have this?  If not, which thread should I post it in.  It shows Tim Lawless and the Rancho Cordova address.  Also Godaddy.com

I believe yes, upthread.
B


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 03:15:38 PM
UNCLE OF CCL
brother of george W. Lawless, father of CCL


1910 living with parents

1910 United States Federal Census
about Ralph D Lawless
Name: Ralph D Lawless
Age in 1910: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: James H W
Father's Birth Place: Indiana
Mother's Name: Nancy H
Mother's Birth Place: Kentucky
Home in 1910: Malaga, Chelan, Washington
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James H W Lawless 43
Nancy H Lawless 45

George W Lawless 17
John M Lawless 16
William B Lawless 12
Ralph D Lawless 8
Agnes A Lawless 6
Bardette Lawless 1/12

1920, with his MOTHER, father is gone as of 1918
Name: Ralph D Lawless
Home in 1920: Bodie, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 18 years

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Birth Place: Indiana
Mother's Name: Nancy W
Mother's Birth Place: Illinois
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Male
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 171
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Nancy W Lawless 54
George W Lawless 27
William B Lawless 22
Ralph D Lawless 18  
Agnes A Lawless 15
Richard D Lawless 9
Mabel P Heley 28 this is mabel lawless married HALEY
Georgie P Heley 8






1930 is living with another family
Ralph D Lawless
Home in 1930: Brewster, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head of House: Lodger  
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ben Buob 35
Ralph D Lawless 28
John F Dougherty 48
William M Ginn 55
Marshall J C Andrews 50
Minnie Andrews 49
Theo L Pederson 24




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on April 28, 2009, 03:39:12 PM
just heard this on the news

pastor clifford lane lawless and wife are in Sutter County or sutter CA waiting for this to die down, no intention of closing church

okay sutter county and sutter CA are two different places but close, I have to look them up but one might be in yuba county .  these are very close to butte county and not far from sacramento either. 

I don't have time to check out which lawless live there right now, but will look later, this might help us track which lawless they are related to over there. 

right now I am working on the gary d lawless in OK born july 1932, but wanted to post this note about what was just on the news.

Thanks.  I am putting together a family tree (see above) to figure out which branch belongs to whom.  I will look at this in a few minutes.


yes I just read your part of the tree... ok from where clifford starts with his father, I have all that on down and then I have 2 more generations back on cliffords mother's side, it is at the first part of this thread. 

now it is the father of clifford where most likely will branch off with the brothers of george w lawless, the father of clifford.  most likely it is one of the brothers of george w lawless where we will find gary d lawless coming down that line, MY Guess.

now that we have the brothers of george w, father of clifford and his brothers, we should be able to come right back down those brothers' lines and run into gary d lawless... IF, in fact he is part of this lawless family. 

We are on the same wave length.  I think it will catch up with one of George W's siblings branches and there are many as you can see.

I think also it will be the brother of george w lawless(father of clifford lane lawless)
it will be one of george's kids, an uncle of CLL, who will come down and run into Gary D lawless... I HOPE LOL...

heck james was not  in the household of nancy way back there on the census, so he might have left and remarried someone and started a whole new line of lawless.  LOL   lets hope not ugh. 

ok I will keep digging and we can piece this together.  we have to find gary d lawless, father of timothy john lawless somewhere in this mess.  LOL

WHOA

Dale Johnson?

Dale Johnson? I think that name is in my memory bank somewhere, lol.  Is he the pastor in Washington state? Yikes, even more and more confused by the minute....


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 03:41:51 PM

The Herald Reporter - Jun 9, 1960
Members of Den 4 of Brewster Cub Scouts, accompanied by their leader, Mrs Dick Lawless, and Mrs. Scott Hull, wet up Paradise Hill on Saturday to have a picnic for their last meetingof the school year.

They ate luch at the old mill site and enjoyed swimming at a small pond there.

scouts attending were Terry Shenyer, Joel Kirk, Brad Hull, Gerald Lawless, Lonnie Sheets, Dennis Cruden, Ted Goehry ad Bobby Crossland.

Others going were Dale Crossland, Gil Gamble, Harvey Hull, Carleen, Johnnie and Nancy Lawless


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 03:46:41 PM
The Herald Reporter - Aug 12, 1976

50 years ago - that would be 1926, but the cars are 1936 modes hmmmm

Dick Lawless reported the sale of two new 1936 four door Dodge touring Sedans.  Deliveries were made to J.J. Stuttler ad Roy H. Plemons last weekend





Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 03:49:21 PM
I have hit a brick wall with John Mack Lawless.

No obituary, no divorce, no cemetery listing nothing. No mention of him whatsoever

I am moving on to the next sibling.  If I have missed something about in posted that may help me please let me know.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 04:12:58 PM
William Bryan Lawless
B 31 Aug 1897 New Brunsiwick Canada
D 15 Aug 1975 Okanogan, Brewster WA

Married

Gladys Thayer
B 1898 Brewster, Okanogan, WA
Before 1978

Children:
William Lawless


The Herald Reporter - Feb 18, 1960
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=EnYMAAAAIBAJ&sjid=nWUDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6213,77122&dq=gladys-lawless


Ruth B Thayer, Gladys Mother’s Obit:
Note – mentions grandson “Bill”
Quad-City Herald - Feb 9, 1978
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=0kkMAAAAIBAJ&sjid=eGMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5158,745743&dq=gladys-lawless



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 28, 2009, 04:19:24 PM
I have hit a brick wall with John Mack Lawless.

No obituary, no divorce, no cemetery listing nothing. No mention of him whatsoever

I am moving on to the next sibling.  If I have missed something about in posted that may help me please let me know.

Is there a possibility his name could be John Mic Lawless?  Because I found one in Kentucky-deceased--was 85 years old.  I can post if you want.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 28, 2009, 04:22:22 PM
I have hit a brick wall with John Mack Lawless.

No obituary, no divorce, no cemetery listing nothing. No mention of him whatsoever

I am moving on to the next sibling.  If I have missed something about in posted that may help me please let me know.

Is there a possibility his name could be John Mic Lawless?  Because I found one in Kentucky-deceased--was 85 years old.  I can post if you want.

Actually, here's the info:

LAWLESS, JOHN MIC
LAWLESS, JOHN M
LAWLESS, JOHN
Deceased
(DOB: 06/1921)
(DOD: 05/12/2006)
 (Age at Death:84) 
2826 ELEANOR AVE 1
LOUISVILLE, KY 40205-2938
JEFFERSON COUNTY
(01/1957-Current) 
502-Edit-no phone numbers please
 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 04:22:47 PM
I have hit a brick wall with John Mack Lawless.

No obituary, no divorce, no cemetery listing nothing. No mention of him whatsoever

I am moving on to the next sibling.  If I have missed something about in posted that may help me please let me know.

Is there a possibility his name could be John Mic Lawless?  Because I found one in Kentucky-deceased--was 85 years old.  I can post if you want.

I do not think that is the right one.  The one that is related died in California.

John Mack Lawless
B 23 Nov 1893, York, New Brunswick, Canada
D 6 Feb 1965, Los Angeles, California


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 04:25:01 PM
This has to be the "Grandson Bill" that is mentioned In Ruth Thayer's obit. 

Quad-City Herald - Jun 16, 1983
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=BZENAAAAIBAJ&sjid=kmMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4814,568356&dq=bill-lawless+brewster


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 28, 2009, 04:28:46 PM
I have hit a brick wall with John Mack Lawless.

No obituary, no divorce, no cemetery listing nothing. No mention of him whatsoever

I am moving on to the next sibling.  If I have missed something about in posted that may help me please let me know.

Is there a possibility his name could be John Mic Lawless?  Because I found one in Kentucky-deceased--was 85 years old.  I can post if you want.

I do not think that is the right one.  The one that is related died in California.

John Mack Lawless
B 23 Nov 1893, York, New Brunswick, Canada
D 6 Feb 1965, Los Angeles, California


If you google "John Mack Lawless" in quotes, you'll come up with a hit for an obituary from the Herald Reporter in Washington.  I can't get the image because I'm not a member, but it appears the obituary contains the following information:

Publication Title: The Herald Reporter
Successor: The Herald Reporter
Content Source: SmallTownPapers, Inc.
Country: USA
State: Washington
Town: Brewster
Zip Code: 98812
Start Date Year: 1902
Year: 1966
Month: March
Day: 17
Page Number: 8
Original data from:SmallTownPapers® Collection

Here's the link if anyone has access.  http://www.footnote.com/document/65092106/

If no one has access, let me know and I'll join and buy it.  Call it "taking one for the team" but one not nearly as courageous as Wyks. . .




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 04:29:10 PM
Another article about Bill Lawless and his wife Carleen. They were at the Johnson house.

Quad-City Herald - Dec 25, 1986
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=EJoMAAAAIBAJ&sjid=5WUDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2658,976981&dq=bill-lawless+brewster


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 28, 2009, 04:31:01 PM
I have hit a brick wall with John Mack Lawless.

No obituary, no divorce, no cemetery listing nothing. No mention of him whatsoever

I am moving on to the next sibling.  If I have missed something about in posted that may help me please let me know.

I also found this on ancestry.com

John Mack Lawless
Birth: 23 Nov 1893 - York, York, New Brunswick, Canada

Death: 6 Feb 1965 - California, USA



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 04:33:36 PM
I have hit a brick wall with John Mack Lawless.

No obituary, no divorce, no cemetery listing nothing. No mention of him whatsoever

I am moving on to the next sibling.  If I have missed something about in posted that may help me please let me know.

I also found this on ancestry.com

John Mack Lawless
Birth: 23 Nov 1893 - York, York, New Brunswick, Canada

Death: 6 Feb 1965 - California, USA



That is the right one.  We just have a gap of about 20 years from when he leaves his parents house and dies in Los Angeles.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 04:35:06 PM
Carleen A Lawless, wife of Grandson Bill Lawless.

Carleen A Lawless Age 54, Brewster, WA
Carlee Lawless
Carlee A Lawless
Carleen Lawless
Carlee Michael
Carleen Michael
Carleen A Michael
Carleen A Shepard
Carleen Sheperd


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 28, 2009, 04:35:10 PM
I really apologize for the successive posts.  If you guys rather me wait until I get all my info together, let me know and I will.  I just dip in and out during the course of the workday so I post the info as I retrieve it.

Anyway, take a look at this link:

http://records.ancestry.com/Nancy%20Roland_records.ashx?pid=38663107

It's on ancestry.com, and suggests a relationship with Nancy Roland, George Washington Roland (George Lawless?), and a host of Lawlesses. 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 04:36:33 PM
I have hit a brick wall with John Mack Lawless.

No obituary, no divorce, no cemetery listing nothing. No mention of him whatsoever

I am moving on to the next sibling.  If I have missed something about in posted that may help me please let me know.

he's popping up in my data bases as :

Name: John M Lawless
Social Security #: ((edit - please do not post SS numbers))
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 23 Nov 1894
Birthplace: Nebraska
Death Date: 6 Feb 1965
Death Place: Los Angeles
Mother's Maiden Name: Rowland

Is there a possibility his name could be John Mic Lawless?  Because I found one in Kentucky-deceased--was 85 years old.  I can post if you want.

I do not think that is the right one.  The one that is related died in California.

John Mack Lawless
B 23 Nov 1893, York, New Brunswick, Canada
D 6 Feb 1965, Los Angeles, California



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 04:39:12 PM
I really apologize for the successive posts.  If you guys rather me wait until I get all my info together, let me know and I will.  I just dip in and out during the course of the workday so I post the info as I retrieve it.

Anyway, take a look at this link:

http://records.ancestry.com/Nancy%20Roland_records.ashx?pid=38663107

It's on ancestry.com, and suggests a relationship with Nancy Roland, George Washington Roland (George Lawless?), and a host of Lawlesses. 

actually it helps if you just keep posting whatever you find, as you find it
this way if I see something I recognize in there I know what it goes with and can post it, that gives us all help linking this together.  that's my opinion anyway. ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 04:40:02 PM
somehow in the 2 posts above I posted in someone elses writing and so here is the info again


he's popping up in my data bases as :

Name: John M Lawless
Social Security #: ((edit - please do not post SS numbers))Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 23 Nov 1894
Birthplace: Nebraska
Death Date: 6 Feb 1965
Death Place: Los Angeles
Mother's Maiden Name: Rowland


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 28, 2009, 04:41:09 PM
Is anyone a member of ancestry.com?  There seems to be a lot of info on the "right" John Mack Lawless. If no one is a member, I'm thinking of joining it.

John Mack Lawless
Smeltzer Family Tree
 Includes:
CitationsBirth:  dd mm 1893 - city, York, Nebraska, USA
Death:  date - California, USA
Parents:  name surname, name surname

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Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 04:44:23 PM
I really apologize for the successive posts.  If you guys rather me wait until I get all my info together, let me know and I will.  I just dip in and out during the course of the workday so I post the info as I retrieve it.

Anyway, take a look at this link:

http://records.ancestry.com/Nancy%20Roland_records.ashx?pid=38663107

It's on ancestry.com, and suggests a relationship with Nancy Roland, George Washington Roland (George Lawless?), and a host of Lawlesses. 

actually it helps if you just keep posting whatever you find, as you find it
this way if I see something I recognize in there I know what it goes with and can post it, that gives us all help linking this together.  that's my opinion anyway. ::MonkeyCool::

I totally agree.  I read as I post and am hoping that an AHA! moment will come that will connect Gary D to this clan.  The more info we can post the more likely we will find the right bread crumb that will lead us to the Lawless bakery!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 04:49:26 PM
somehow in the 2 posts above I posted in someone elses writing and so here is the info again


he's popping up in my data bases as :

Name: John M Lawless
Social Security #: ((edit - please do not post SS numbers ))Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 23 Nov 1894
Birthplace: Nebraska
Death Date: 6 Feb 1965

Death Place: Los Angeles
Mother's Maiden Name: Rowland

Yup this is the right one! So the million dollar question is where does he go for abt 25 years after he leaves the house and does he take his son with him?  There is a huge gap with absolutely nothing until he dies in LA.  When does he get to LA?  Why does he go to LA?   This can be so frustrating at times.....


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 04:52:50 PM
Is anyone a member of ancestry.com?  There seems to be a lot of info on the "right" John Mack Lawless. If no one is a member, I'm thinking of joining it.

John Mack Lawless
Smeltzer Family Tree
 Includes:
CitationsBirth:  dd mm 1893 - city, York, Nebraska, USA
Death:  date - California, USA
Parents:  name surname, name surname

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


No I am not.  I think you can get census and other stuff there as well. I would be careful about pulling info from trees that other people have posted.  If they did not do the correct research then the tree is wrong.  Something I have found out from experience for going genealogy for a lot of years.  If you can not find the census, birth, or death certs take the member submitted trees with a grain of salt.  JMO


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 28, 2009, 04:59:48 PM
Is anyone a member of ancestry.com?  There seems to be a lot of info on the "right" John Mack Lawless. If no one is a member, I'm thinking of joining it.

John Mack Lawless
Smeltzer Family Tree
 Includes:
CitationsBirth:  dd mm 1893 - city, York, Nebraska, USA
Death:  date - California, USA
Parents:  name surname, name surname

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No I am not.  I think you can get census and other stuff there as well. I would be careful about pulling info from trees that other people have posted.  If they did not do the correct research then the tree is wrong.  Something I have found out from experience for going genealogy for a lot of years.  If you can not find the census, birth, or death certs take the member submitted trees with a grain of salt.  JMO

I might join and check it out.  The links it says are available are apparently from death records and census records dating back to the early 1900's.  Might be hype, but it's probably worth a few bucks to check it out.  Unfortunately, my legal database isn't pulling anything more than what we already know, which is very odd.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 05:09:10 PM
Is anyone a member of ancestry.com?  There seems to be a lot of info on the "right" John Mack Lawless. If no one is a member, I'm thinking of joining it.

John Mack Lawless
Smeltzer Family Tree
 Includes:
CitationsBirth:  dd mm 1893 - city, York, Nebraska, USA
Death:  date - California, USA
Parents:  name surname, name surname

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


I'm a member


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 05:11:05 PM
hmmm

the first two children are born before they are married.  either dates are wrong, the 2 chidren were born before they got married(I doubt it) or these are someone elses children?  a sister who died?  or a sibling?  it happened a lot back then


James H Lawless
B 15 Mat 1865/66 Rockspring, Patrick VA
D Nov 1945 MO

married 14 May 1890
Tecumseh, Johnson , NE

Nancy Hanse Rowland
B 5 Jan 1865 Glasgow, Barron, KY
D 9 Dec 1945 Omark, Okanogan, WA


Children or James H Lawless and Nancy Hanse Rowland:

Agnes Lawless
B 1893 , WA
D 10 Aug 1976, WA

Mabel Pearl Lawless
B 1890 Tecumsehm Johnson, New Brunswick, Canada
D 6 Nov 1959 Okanogan, Brewster, WA


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 05:12:40 PM
I'm seeing things haha,

my previous post agnes is ok, but mabel is not, she is born before they are married if these dates are right


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 05:15:17 PM
hmmm

the first two children are born before they are married.  either dates are wrong, the 2 chidren were born before they got married(I doubt it) or these are someone elses children?  a sister who died?  or a sibling?  it happened a lot back then


James H Lawless
B 15 Mat 1865/66 Rockspring, Patrick VA
D Nov 1945 MO

married 14 May 1890
Tecumseh, Johnson , NE

Nancy Hanse Rowland
B 5 Jan 1865 Glasgow, Barron, KY
D 9 Dec 1945 Omark, Okanogan, WA


Children or James H Lawless and Nancy Hanse Rowland:

Agnes Lawless
B 1893 , WA
D 10 Aug 1976, WA

Mabel Pearl Lawless
B 1890 Tecumsehm Johnson, New Brunswick, Canada
D 6 Nov 1959 Okanogan, Brewster, WA

Looks like a shot gun wedding to me.  They were married in May and I could not find a date for Mabel's birth but I would bet she was born in November or Dec.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 05:22:52 PM
Is anyone a member of ancestry.com?  There seems to be a lot of info on the "right" John Mack Lawless. If no one is a member, I'm thinking of joining it.

John Mack Lawless
Smeltzer Family Tree
 Includes:
CitationsBirth:  dd mm 1893 - city, York, Nebraska, USA
Death:  date - California, USA
Parents:  name surname, name surname

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


I'm in ancestry, anything I see I am posting



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 05:23:41 PM
Name: John M Lawlers
[John M Lawless] 
Home in 1920: Dyer, Douglas, Washington
Age: 25 years 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Birthplace: Nebraska
Relation to Head of House: Head 
Father's Birth Place: Nebraska 
Mother's Birth Place: Kentucky 
Marital Status: Single 
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own 
Able to read: Yes 
Able to Write: Yes 
Image: 592 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
John M Lawlers 25 

I am thinking this might be our lost john mack lawless/lawlers? not sure but guessing
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 28, 2009, 05:27:01 PM
Is anyone a member of ancestry.com?  There seems to be a lot of info on the "right" John Mack Lawless. If no one is a member, I'm thinking of joining it.

John Mack Lawless
Smeltzer Family Tree
 Includes:
CitationsBirth:  dd mm 1893 - city, York, Nebraska, USA
Death:  date - California, USA
Parents:  name surname, name surname

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


No I am not.  I think you can get census and other stuff there as well. I would be careful about pulling info from trees that other people have posted.  If they did not do the correct research then the tree is wrong.  Something I have found out from experience for going genealogy for a lot of years.  If you can not find the census, birth, or death certs take the member submitted trees with a grain of salt.  JMO

I might join and check it out.  The links it says are available are apparently from death records and census records dating back to the early 1900's.  Might be hype, but it's probably worth a few bucks to check it out.  Unfortunately, my legal database isn't pulling anything more than what we already know, which is very odd.


No Jess, it is not. I am getting the same problem. Something is up.
I am beginning to question if the fact that both Cliff and Connie having the same initials and if you note the variations on here...
catch my drift? I have been trying to match deeds with what you guys are coming up with and it is NOT matching up...
B


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 05:28:27 PM
Name: John M Lawlers
[John M Lawless] 
Home in 1920: Dyer, Douglas, Washington
Age: 25 years 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Birthplace: Nebraska
Relation to Head of House: Head 
Father's Birth Place: Nebraska 
Mother's Birth Place: Kentucky 
Marital Status: Single 
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own 
Able to read: Yes 
Able to Write: Yes 
Image: 592 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
John M Lawlers 25 

I am thinking this might be our lost john mack lawless/lawlers? not sure but guessing
 


Right age, right state, could very well be him. 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 05:30:12 PM
Is anyone a member of ancestry.com?  There seems to be a lot of info on the "right" John Mack Lawless. If no one is a member, I'm thinking of joining it.

John Mack Lawless
Smeltzer Family Tree
 Includes:
CitationsBirth:  dd mm 1893 - city, York, Nebraska, USA
Death:  date - California, USA
Parents:  name surname, name surname

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


No I am not.  I think you can get census and other stuff there as well. I would be careful about pulling info from trees that other people have posted.  If they did not do the correct research then the tree is wrong.  Something I have found out from experience for going genealogy for a lot of years.  If you can not find the census, birth, or death certs take the member submitted trees with a grain of salt.  JMO

I might join and check it out.  The links it says are available are apparently from death records and census records dating back to the early 1900's.  Might be hype, but it's probably worth a few bucks to check it out.  Unfortunately, my legal database isn't pulling anything more than what we already know, which is very odd.


No Jess, it is not. I am getting the same problem. Something is up.
I am beginning to question if the fact that both Cliff and Connie having the same initials and if you note the variations on here...
catch my drift? I have been trying to match deeds with what you guys are coming up with and it is NOT matching up...
B

My brains feel like they are about to ooze out of my ears, and my teeth hurt from clenching them!  I am taking a break.  Hope you guys have some luck while I am gone!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 05:44:00 PM
I'm pulling all the docs out of ancestry that I find. 

like someone else said, you have to be careful of family trees, I am finding a lot of things people stuck in their trees that are not right.  I too have done genealogy for years; people will stick anything they find that is remotely like it.

I am beginning to think someone messed up john mack lawless really good.

they certainly have the birth states off.

what I am doing is information from the recorded documents.  census records, marriages, draft info/military, birth records, death records

census info can be off too.  if the census taker asked the neighbor for the info when someone is not home, they write down whatever the neighbor told them, half the time it is wrong.  but it usually gives you the right town and county etc and date of the census.  but the names and places of birth and the ages of the kids can be off.




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 05:46:03 PM
this guy is probably a child of someone, maybe john mack's son?

Name: John M Lawless
Birth Date: Nov 1958  
Phone Number:Edit-No phone numbers please
Address: Pob 1614, Chelan, Washington 98816-0701 (1993)
[836 S Bridge St, Brewster, Washington 98812]
[318 E Trow, Chelan, Washington 98816]


Pob 1614, Chelan, Washington
CHELAN, WA
BREWSTER, WA
MANSON, WA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, JOHN M (Age 50)



Pob 1614, Chelan, Washington
CHELAN, WA
BREWSTER, WA
MANSON, WA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, LISA G (Age 38)


836 S Bridge St, Brewster, Washington
CHELAN, WA
BREWSTER, WA
MANSON, WA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, JOHN M (Age 50)



836 S Bridge St, Brewster, Washington

CHELAN, WA
BREWSTER, WA
MANSON, WA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, LISA G (Age 38)



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 06:18:30 PM

Name: John M Lawlers[John M Lawless]   Home in 1920: Dyer, Douglas, Washington  
Age: 25 years 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Birthplace: Nebraska
Relation to Head of House: Head 
Father's Birth Place: Nebraska  right place for dad's birth
Mother's Birth Place: Kentucky  right place for mother's birth
Marital Status: Single 
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own 
Able to read: Yes 
Able to Write: Yes 
Image: 592 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
John M Lawlers 25  right age

I am thinking this might be our lost john mack lawless/lawlers? not sure but guessing
 

ok his father is also in douglas county when he registers for WWI
this has to be the john mack lawless son above

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: George Webster Lawless  
County: Douglas 
State: Washington
 
Birthplace: Nebraska;United States of America 
Birth Date: 28 Apr 1892
Race: Caucasian (White) 
Roll: 1991537 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 28, 2009, 06:25:04 PM
I agree.  I bet the census taker wrote it down wrong rather than asking for spelling.

Can you also please pull info on
Ralph Devere Lawless
B 1 Jan 1902 New Brunswick Canada
D 23 May 1963 Okanogan , Brewster, WA

1910 lived in Malaga, Chelan, Washington
1920 lived in Bodie, Okanogan, Washington
1930 lived in Brewster Washington


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 06:37:20 PM
ooops in my above post right before this one I said john mack lawless was son of george, they are brothers,

I am convinced this is the right john mack lawless/lawyers. 

everything matches.

I guess we should look for john mack under the last name of lawlers as well as lawless


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 07:13:25 PM
I agree.  I bet the census taker wrote it down wrong rather than asking for spelling.

Can you also please pull info on
Ralph Devere Lawless
B 1 Jan 1902 New Brunswick Canada
D 23 May 1963 Okanogan , Brewster, WA

1910 lived in Malaga, Chelan, Washington
1920 lived in Bodie, Okanogan, Washington
1930 lived in Brewster Washington


Ralph D Lawless
Age in 1910: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head of House: Son 
Father's Name: James H W
Father's Birth Place: Indiana 
Mother's Name: Nancy H 
Mother's Birth Place: Kentucky 
Home in 1910: Malaga, Chelan, Washington
Marital Status: Single 
Race: White
Gender: Male 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
James H W Lawless 43 
Nancy H Lawless 45 
George W Lawless 17 
John M Lawless 16 
William B Lawless 12 
Ralph D Lawless 8 
Agnes A Lawless 6 
Bardette Lawless 1/12 
 


Name: Ralph D Lawless
Home in 1920: Bodie, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 18 years 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head of House: Son 
Father's Birth Place: Indiana 
Mother's Name: Nancy W
Mother's Birth Place: Illinois 
Marital Status: Single 
Race: White
Sex: Male
Able to read: Yes 
Able to Write: Yes 
Image: 171 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Nancy W Lawless 54 
George W Lawless 27 
William B Lawless 22 
Ralph D Lawless 18 
Agnes A Lawless 15 
Richard D Lawless 9 
Mabel P Heley 28 
Georgie P Heley 8 
 


Name: Ralph D Lawless
Home in 1930: Brewster, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902 
Birthplace: Washington 
Relation to Head of House: Lodger 
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Ben Buob 35 
Ralph D Lawless 28 
John F Dougherty 48 
William M Ginn 55 
Marshall J C Andrews 50 
Minnie Andrews 49 
Theo L Pederson 24 




 
 
 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 07:17:52 PM
Washington Death Index, 1940-1996
about William B Lawless
Name: William B Lawless
Date of Death: 15 Aug 1975
Place of Death: Okanogan 
Age: 77 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898 
RESIDENCE: Okanogan 
Gender: Male 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: klaasend on April 28, 2009, 07:47:40 PM
PLEASE do not post SS numbers.  I know in this case the person may have been deceased but it's against our policy to post SS numbers.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 28, 2009, 07:49:01 PM
THis link is a newspaper clipping from the Quad City Herald.

It mentions John Lawless, Dick Lawless and George Lawless in the same article.  It is dated Nov. 26, 1981.  Thought it would be helpful in tying the three together.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=OJcNAAAAIBAJ&sjid=RGMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6422,862918&dq=brewster+james+%7C+joseph+%7C+joe+%7C+jonathan+lawless

I don't know how to put the clippings on here or I would have so you could just read it.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 07:50:50 PM
PLEASE do not post SS numbers.  I know in this case the person may have been deceased but it's against our policy to post SS numbers.

thanks, I will be sure to delete them out of there before posting. 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 07:52:51 PM
THis link is a newspaper clipping from the Quad City Herald.

It mentions John Lawless, Dick Lawless and George Lawless in the same article.  It is dated Nov. 26, 1981.  Thought it would be helpful in tying the three together.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=OJcNAAAAIBAJ&sjid=RGMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6422,862918&dq=brewster+james+%7C+joseph+%7C+joe+%7C+jonathan+lawless

I don't know how to put the clippings on here or I would have so you could just read it.


Quad-City Herald - Nov 26, 1981

Visiting with John Lawless during the weekend were Buzzy Dowell, Bridgeport, Mrs. Dick Lawless and children and Geo.(george) Lawless of Brewster.



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 07:59:19 PM
Name: William B Lawless  
Home in 1930: Brewster, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898 
Birthplace: Nebraska 
Relation to Head of House: Head 
Spouse's Name: Gladys M  
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
William B Lawless 32 
Gladys M Lawless 31   
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 28, 2009, 08:13:01 PM
Another link for a newspaper clipping.  So sorry, I know I need to learn to post these like ya'll do.

This one says that John Lawless spent the weekend with his parents Betty and Don Johnson.  WTH?????   

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=nq0MAAAAIBAJ&sjid=mGMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5454,1290360&dq=brewster+james+%7C+joseph+%7C+joe+%7C+jonathan+lawless

 ::MonkeyConfused::No wonder we are having such a hard time finding ancestry lines. ::MonkeyConfused::   .


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 08:15:58 PM
Another link for a newspaper clipping.  So sorry, I know I need to learn to post these like ya'll do.

This one says that John Lawless spent the weekend with his parents Betty and Don Johnson.  WTH?????   

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=nq0MAAAAIBAJ&sjid=mGMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5454,1290360&dq=brewster+james+%7C+joseph+%7C+joe+%7C+jonathan+lawless

 ::MonkeyConfused::No wonder we are having such a hard time finding ancestry lines. ::MonkeyConfused::   .

you are doing great finding these, it really helps. 

hmmm parents johnson?  I bet his mother remarried and that is his mother and his step father ?  just a guess, let me try to find them


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 08:20:02 PM
Quad-City Herald - Feb 22, 1979
John Lawless spent the holiday weekend home with his parents, Betty and Don Johnson. John attends North Seattle Community College


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 08:25:08 PM
Bette June Grimes & Donald Lafayette Johnson

Date:6 Jun 1965
Location:Brewster, WA

she is the x-wife of richard Birdette Lawless, the brother of george w lawless. 

so she is the aunt of clifford land lawless.

her son John lawless would be the cousin of clifford lane lawless. 

hmm wonder if she has other kids, let me go see.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 28, 2009, 08:25:29 PM
This one mentions Deidra Lawless, granddaughter of Betty and Don Johnson.  Also Tom and Carlene Shepard, all going to the wedding reception of Jerry Lawless. Also mentions nephews of Betty with 2 different last names.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=z64MAAAAIBAJ&sjid=i2MDAAAAIBAJ&pg=956,339744&dq=betty-and-don-johnson


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 08:29:52 PM
Bette June Grimes
Birth:27 Jun 1923
Albion, Carter, Montana, United States

father

Paul Jonathan Grimes
 
Birth:4 Mar 1887
Des Moines, Polk, Iowa, United States
Death:7 Jun 1962
Prosser, Benton, Washington, United States


mother

Florence Lucile Shepard
 
Birth:7 Jan 1899
Flora, Clay, Illinois, United States
Death:8 Mar 1987
Prosser, Benton, Washington, United States


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 08:31:38 PM

Bette June Grimes married ----

Richard Birdette lawless
Birth:22 Mar 1910
Wenatchee, Chelan, Washington, United States
Death:26 May 1962
Brewster, Okanogan, Washington, United States
Marriage:31 Dec 1945
Pateros, Okanogan, Washington, United States


then she married

Donald Lafayette Johnson
Birth:19 Aug 1923
Huston, Canyon, Idaho, United States
Death:14 Dec 2005
Wenatchee, Chelan, Washington, United States
Marriage:6 Jun 1965
Brewster, Okanogan, Washington, United States


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 08:35:57 PM
This one mentions Deidra Lawless, granddaughter of Betty and Don Johnson.  Also Tom and Carlene Shepard, all going to the wedding reception of Jerry Lawless. Also mentions nephews of Betty with 2 different last names.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=z64MAAAAIBAJ&sjid=i2MDAAAAIBAJ&pg=956,339744&dq=betty-and-don-johnson


Quad-City Herald - Aug 12, 1982


Deidre Lawless of Wenatchee has bee visiting here with grandmother, Betty ad Don Johnson.  The Johnsons and Tom and Carlene shepard went to Weatchee last Saturday for the wedding reception of Jerry Lawless.


Also  visiting the Johnsons last week was Betty's nephew, Harry and Evelyn McCartney Jr., who are former residents.  They also visited with Harry's brother Bill Sachse and Sonny Samplson, a classmate.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 28, 2009, 08:43:10 PM
We may be getting close to something.  Earlier i think someone mentioned a Dale Johnson??????

BTW Doubledecker thanks for putting the info out there to see.  Maybe I can paraphrase it so you won't have to keep doing that.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 28, 2009, 08:51:34 PM
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=664MAAAAIBAJ&sjid=i2MDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4904,2004081&dq=brewster+james+%7C+joseph+%7C+joe+%7C+jonathan+lawless

Quad City Herald Mar 17, 1983


New Grandson

Baby boy, Bryn Cole, born March 14 at Wenatchee hospital to Gerald and Louann Lawless. Joins a brother at home, Ian.  Grandparents include Betty and Don Johnson and Mr. and Mrs. Dean Warner of Orondo.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 28, 2009, 08:52:41 PM
We may be getting close to something.  Earlier i think someone mentioned a Dale Johnson??????

BTW Doubledecker thanks for putting the info out there to see.  Maybe I can paraphrase it so you won't have to keep doing that.

Yes, Dale Johnson is who the FBI was looking for during their recent trip and meeting with Bill Creutzenberg.
B


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 08:55:56 PM
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=664MAAAAIBAJ&sjid=i2MDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4904,2004081&dq=brewster+james+%7C+joseph+%7C+joe+%7C+jonathan+lawless

Quad City Herald Mar 17, 1983


New Grandson

Baby boy, Bryn Cole, born March 14 at Wenatchee hospital to Gerald and Louann Lawless. Joins a brother at home, Ian.  Grandparents include Betty and Don Johnson and Mr. and Mrs. Dean Warner of Orondo.

gerald must be the son of betty and richard birdette lawless.  so gerald will be another cousin of clifford lane lawless

and now we know gerald married louan most likely last name warner, as they are the other grandparents...will see if I can find them.

you are doing a great job...thanks... this helps a lot !!!!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 09:00:33 PM
LAWLESS, GERALD D (Age 58) E WENATCHEE, WA
EAST WENATCHEE, WA
WENATCHEE, WA
LEAVENWORTH, WA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, LUANNE D (Age 51)
LAWLESS, KAI A (Age 22)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

WILDER, JAMES C (Age 59)
WILDER, ELIZABETH L (Age 56)
SOPER, JOSEPH R (Age 60)  didn't we have the SOPER name somewhere?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 28, 2009, 09:05:01 PM
 ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance::

Here is the Maine Connection

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=EJoMAAAAIBAJ&sjid=5WUDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2658,976981&dq=brewster+lawless+seattle+john-lawless

Quad City Herald Dec 25, 1986

It was an early Christmas celebration last weekend at the home of Don and Bette Johnson.  Visiting were her daughter Nancy and Nick Pizzatola and daughter Monique of Seattle, and son Jerry and Louanne Lawless and their four sons of East Wenatchee.  Joining them for a feast were Bill Lawless and children of Brewster.  John Lawless called unexpectedly from Bangor, Maine, with Christmas greetings.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 09:21:47 PM
ex-wife betty, of richard birdette Lawless, uncle of clifford Lane lawless

donald johnson is the 2nd marriage of betty

JOHNSON, DONALD L (Age 85) middle name is lafayette
 EAST WENATCHEE, WA
BREWSTER, WA
BELLEVUE, WA

Possible Relatives:

JOHNSON, BENJAMIN MICHAEL  (Age 37)
JOHNSON, BETTE J (Age 85)ex-wife of Richard Birdette Lawless
JOHNSON, TERRY DEAN (Age 37)
JOHNSON, LOUISE T (Age 62)
JOHNSON, LARRY PAUL (Age 61)
JOHNSON, RUTH (Age 31)
JOHNSON, LORI PAULANN (Age 34)
JOHNSON, BETTE J
JOHNSON, KIMBERLY (Age 26) 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 09:30:20 PM
::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance::

Here is the Maine Connection

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=EJoMAAAAIBAJ&sjid=5WUDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2658,976981&dq=brewster+lawless+seattle+john-lawless

Quad City Herald Dec 25, 1986

It was an early Christmas celebration last weekend at the home of Don and Bette Johnson.  Visiting were her daughter Nancy and Nick Pizzatola and daughter Monique of Seattle, and son Jerry and Louanne Lawless and their four sons of East Wenatchee.  Joining them for a feast were Bill Lawless and children of Brewster.  John Lawless called unexpectedly from Bangor, Maine, with Christmas greetings.


hmmm, let me see what I can find on that.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 09:41:02 PM
BTW

I am organizing all of this info into a "report" so we can understand it all when we are done.  I know right now it looks like a big huge jumbled up mess trying to sort through all this stuff, but I am getting it all organized and will post it when we get these people all hooked up together.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 28, 2009, 09:42:58 PM
I think you are doing a fantastic job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 28, 2009, 10:00:04 PM
BTW

I am organizing all of this info into a "report" so we can understand it all when we are done.  I know right now it looks like a big huge jumbled up mess trying to sort through all this stuff, but I am getting it all organized and will post it when we get these people all hooked up together.

Your work is amazing you guys, just wanted to let you know.

Don't forgot that ME connection has Gordon Lester Lawless (registered SO) and Timothy Lawless (not CA Lawless) Registered SO
as well.

B


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 10:05:36 PM
BTW

I am organizing all of this info into a "report" so we can understand it all when we are done.  I know right now it looks like a big huge jumbled up mess trying to sort through all this stuff, but I am getting it all organized and will post it when we get these people all hooked up together.

Your work is amazing you guys, just wanted to let you know.

Don't forgot that ME connection has Gordon Lester Lawless (registered SO) and Timothy Lawless (not CA Lawless) Registered SO
as well.

B

yes I have a note over here to watch for them.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 28, 2009, 10:15:56 PM
John Lawless - Kentucy Connection

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=jK0MAAAAIBAJ&sjid=mGMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4097,254603&dq=brewster+lawless+seattle+john-lawless

Quad City Herald-Sept 21, 1978

Takes vacation

   John Lawless, Brewster, flew to Louisville, Kentucky recently, where he spent eight days visiting John McCollum, former Bridgeport teacher, who is now teaching protocol at the Pentagon.  While there John toured Ft. Knox, Lincoln's birthplac, and other historic landmarks in that area, as well as visiting friends and relatives.   Lawless will be attending North Seattle Community again this year, where he is studying eletrical engineering.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 10:28:09 PM
John Lawless - Kentucy Connection

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=jK0MAAAAIBAJ&sjid=mGMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4097,254603&dq=brewster+lawless+seattle+john-lawless

Quad City Herald-Sept 21, 1978

Takes vacation

   John Lawless, Brewster, flew to Louisville, Kentucky recently, where he spent eight days visiting John McCollum, former Bridgeport teacher, who is now teaching protocol at the Pentagon.  While there John toured Ft. Knox, Lincoln's birthplac, and other historic landmarks in that area, as well as visiting friends and relatives.   Lawless will be attending North Seattle Community again this year, where he is studying eletrical engineering.

okay that is the son of richard birdette Lawless, uncle of CCL
who was married to john's(above) mother betty June Shepard, who then married Donald Lafayette Johnson.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 10:29:14 PM
hmmm someone else is an electrical engineer? can't remember who


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 28, 2009, 10:36:00 PM
John Lawless in Provo Utah - 1982

This guy really gets around and likes school. 

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=4a4MAAAAIBAJ&sjid=i2MDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3297,1422609&dq=brewster+lawless+seattle+john-lawles


Christmas 1982

Quad City Herald Dec. 30, 1982

Family together
   Spending Christmas with Don and Betty Johnson were Nick and Nancy Pizzitola from Seattle, and Nick's father, Charles Pizzitola from Texas; Jerry and Luann Lawless and Ian of East Wenatchee; John Lawless, who is home for ten days from the BYU in Provo, Utah, and Carleen and Tom Shepherd, Terry, Sarah and Judd, and Bill Lawless, all of Brewster.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 11:07:23 PM
John Lawless in Provo Utah - 1982

This guy really gets around and likes school. 

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=4a4MAAAAIBAJ&sjid=i2MDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3297,1422609&dq=brewster+lawless+seattle+john-lawles


Christmas 1982

Quad City Herald Dec. 30, 1982

Family together
   Spending Christmas with Don and Betty Johnson were Nick and Nancy Pizzitola from Seattle, and Nick's father, Charles Pizzitola from Texas; Jerry and Luann Lawless and Ian of East Wenatchee; John Lawless, who is home for ten days from the BYU in Provo, Utah, and Carleen and Tom Shepherd, Terry, Sarah and Judd, and Bill Lawless, all of Brewster.


hmmm  he is going to BRIGHAM YOUNG UNIVERSITY...
you would think they would have a family tree through him. 

is Carleen the daughter?  I bet she is...

let me see something


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 28, 2009, 11:17:04 PM
I think you are doing a fantastic job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ditto that!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 28, 2009, 11:18:07 PM
BTW

I am organizing all of this info into a "report" so we can understand it all when we are done.  I know right now it looks like a big huge jumbled up mess trying to sort through all this stuff, but I am getting it all organized and will post it when we get these people all hooked up together.

Your work is amazing you guys, just wanted to let you know.

Don't forgot that ME connection has Gordon Lester Lawless (registered SO) and Timothy Lawless (not CA Lawless) Registered SO
as well.

B

Has anyone researched Gordon Lester Lawless?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 28, 2009, 11:21:57 PM
BTW

I am organizing all of this info into a "report" so we can understand it all when we are done.  I know right now it looks like a big huge jumbled up mess trying to sort through all this stuff, but I am getting it all organized and will post it when we get these people all hooked up together.

Your work is amazing you guys, just wanted to let you know.

Don't forgot that ME connection has Gordon Lester Lawless (registered SO) and Timothy Lawless (not CA Lawless) Registered SO
as well.



B

Has anyone researched Gordon Lester Lawless?

I've been loking for both of them. So far I found a police chief in NYPD by the name of Timothy Lawless.  I'm thinking surely not.  I'm keeping link in case it turns into something later.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 11:22:54 PM
ok here is the other electrician
George W Lawless - electrician


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 28, 2009, 11:24:03 PM
hmmm someone else is an electrical engineer? can't remember who

DoubleDecker your posts are blowing my mind.
I did a search too and came up with an electrical engineer - I have so so many notes.
 :gaah:


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 28, 2009, 11:26:56 PM

hmmm  he is going to BRIGHAM YOUNG UNIVERSITY...
you would think they would have a family tree through him. 

is Carleen the daughter?  I bet she is...

let me see something
::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 11:27:06 PM
BTW

I am organizing all of this info into a "report" so we can understand it all when we are done.  I know right now it looks like a big huge jumbled up mess trying to sort through all this stuff, but I am getting it all organized and will post it when we get these people all hooked up together.

Your work is amazing you guys, just wanted to let you know.

Don't forgot that ME connection has Gordon Lester Lawless (registered SO) and Timothy Lawless (not CA Lawless) Registered SO
as well.

B

Has anyone researched Gordon Lester Lawless?


I have not looked for him specifically, but I keep watching for him to pop up in the CLL line back there somewhere.  so far have not seen him pop up.  I am back into the CLL line clear back into the 1700's.  some of they stay in indiana, some go to maryland, some are in maine, but so far not gordon yet,


I can just punch him in and see if there is anything on him, hang on


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 28, 2009, 11:29:08 PM
BTW

I am organizing all of this info into a "report" so we can understand it all when we are done.  I know right now it looks like a big huge jumbled up mess trying to sort through all this stuff, but I am getting it all organized and will post it when we get these people all hooked up together.

Your work is amazing you guys, just wanted to let you know.

Don't forgot that ME connection has Gordon Lester Lawless (registered SO) and Timothy Lawless (not CA Lawless) Registered SO
as well.

B

Has anyone researched Gordon Lester Lawless?

Here's what I found with a preliminary search:

LAWLESS SR, GORDON L
LAWLESS, GORDON
(DOB: 11/1924)
(Age: 84)    

47 TOWER ST FL 1ST
WESTERLY, RI 02891-1941
(03/1986-Current)    

4 DEWBERRY DR APT 12
PRESQUE ISLE, ME 04769-3155
(09/2008)
     

42 MARGIN ST APT 3
WESTERLY, RI 02891-2142
(05/1999)     

42 MARGIN ST APT 1
WESTERLY, RI 02891-2142
(09/1993)

and

LAWLESS SR, GORDON
(DOB: 05/1968)
(Age: 40)     
42 MARGIN ST FL 1
WESTERLY, RI 02891-2142
(08/2003)



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 11:33:03 PM
what do you have on gordon lester lawless

anything will help, so I can figure out the right one. 

what state, town, age, anything?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 28, 2009, 11:34:43 PM
Timothy Lawless in Maine:

1.    LAWLESS, TIMOTHY R
       LAWLESS, TIMOTHY
       (DOB: 07/1983)
       (Age: 25)    
       PO BOX 15
       ROBBINSTON, ME 04671-0015
       WASHINGTON COUNTY
       (03/2003-Current) SMALL GEORGE & CARMEN(Current Listing Name)

173 SHATTUCK RD
CALAIS, ME 04619-4301
WASHINGTON COUNTY
(10/2002-07/2004)    
(ME:1983-1984)

2.    LAWLESS, TIMOTHY    
        RR 1 APT
        ROBBINSTON, ME 04671-9801
        WASHINGTON COUNTY
        (01/2005-Current)   
   
 3.    LAWLESS, TIMOTHY R    
       27 GARLAND RD
       ROBBINSTON, ME 04671
       WASHINGTON COUNTY


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 28, 2009, 11:37:39 PM
what do you have on gordon lester lawless

anything will help, so I can figure out the right one. 

what state, town, age, anything?
http://www.veromi.net/Summary.asp?fn=gordon&mn=&ln=lawless&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=&city=&state=&age=&vw=&Search=&Input=&x=110&y=20
LAWLESS, GORDON
Available    RNCHO CORDOVA, CA    Possible Relatives:
LAWLESS, RAYMOND G
LAWLESS, LINDA V
---------
LAWLESS, GORDON L (Age 40)
Associated names:
 LEWLESS, GORDON L
Available(5)    Available    WESTERLY, RI
BRADFORD, RI      Possible Roommates / Associates:

DURFREE, ANGIE M (Age 35)
NETROE, ANGEL MARIE (Age 41)
LAWLESS, ANGEL (Age 38)


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 28, 2009, 11:38:24 PM
what do you have on gordon lester lawless

anything will help, so I can figure out the right one. 

what state, town, age, anything?

BINGO ON GORDON LESTER LAWLESS!!!   LOOK HERE!!!!  PICTURE AND ALL!!!!!

http://www.backgroundcheckall.com/sex-offender-detail.php?st=ME&oID=ME5115&aID=182804961



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 11:39:38 PM
Name: Gordon L Lawless Sr
Birth Date: Nov 1924
Phone Number: Edit-No phone numbers please
Address: 47 Tower St, Westerly, Rhode Island 02891-0901 (1993)


brb I have to reboot, I have so much stuff open the computer is like a snail LOL.

brb with more


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 28, 2009, 11:40:21 PM
what do you have on gordon lester lawless

anything will help, so I can figure out the right one. 

what state, town, age, anything?

BINGO ON GORDON LESTER LAWLESS!!!   LOOK HERE!!!!  PICTURE AND ALL!!!!!

http://www.backgroundcheckall.com/sex-offender-detail.php?st=ME&oID=ME5115&aID=182804961



By the way, he is also associated with the Westerly RI addresses posted earlier.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 28, 2009, 11:45:56 PM
what do you have on gordon lester lawless

anything will help, so I can figure out the right one. 

what state, town, age, anything?

BINGO ON GORDON LESTER LAWLESS!!!   LOOK HERE!!!!  PICTURE AND ALL!!!!!

http://www.backgroundcheckall.com/sex-offender-detail.php?st=ME&oID=ME5115&aID=182804961



By the way, he is also associated with the Westerly RI addresses posted earlier.

yes same birthday on that address, let me find more

gee an 85 yr old sex offender, wth


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 28, 2009, 11:48:26 PM
what do you have on gordon lester lawless

anything will help, so I can figure out the right one. 

what state, town, age, anything?

BINGO ON GORDON LESTER LAWLESS!!!   LOOK HERE!!!!  PICTURE AND ALL!!!!!

http://www.backgroundcheckall.com/sex-offender-detail.php?st=ME&oID=ME5115&aID=182804961



By the way, he is also associated with the Westerly RI addresses posted earlier.

yes same birthday on that address, let me find more

gee an 85 yr old sex offender, wth

yep:  Check this out: http://sor.informe.org/cgi-bin/sor/step3.pl?id=5115&search=3&zip=04769&area=0&limiter=

His convictions were in Rhode Island:

Statute: Second Degree Child Molestation
Court: Rhode Island
Docket #: W2-2002-0366A
Statute: Second Degree Child Molestation
Court: Rhode Island
Docket #: W2-2002-0366A
Statute: Second Degree Child Molestation
Court: Rhode Island
Docket #: W2-2002-0366A
Statute: Second Degree Child Molestation
Court: Rhode Island
Docket #: W2-2002-0366A


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 28, 2009, 11:55:19 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/feb/22/childprotection.society


Paedophile vigilantes face life termsRetired sea captain murdered after he was cleared of indecently assaulting nine-year-old girl
Martin Wainwright The Guardian, Friday 22 February 2002 01.55 GMT Article historyTwo self-appointed "paedophile vigilantes" face life sentences for the murder of a retired sea captain committed according to a plan drawn up by a teenage girl high on cannabis and alcohol.
Pub cellarman Ian Lawless, 40, and his jobless godson Gary Lawson, 19, shouted abuse as they were found guilty of setting fire to the Grimsby flat of Alf Wilkins, 67, a former deep sea fisherman and tugboat captain who had been cleared of indecently assaulting a nine-year-old girl.

Two other neighbours on the Yarborough estate in Grimsby were also convicted for their part in the murder. Mr Wilkins died of smoke inhalation after the pair set fire to his flat by igniting an accelerant they had poured through his letter box.

Chantelle Day, 17, who drew up the murder plan, will be sentenced later for conspiracy, while Gary Fairbanks, 43, was given two years for intimidating a witness.

After the five week trial at Hull crown court, Detective Superintendent Gavin Baggs, who led the murder inquiry, warned the case sent "a strong message about what happens to people who chose to take the law into their own hands".

He said: "Alfred Wilkins was a well liked old man who kept himself to himself, but who was tormented by criminal offences founded by speculation. We are particularly grateful to witnesses who bravely spoke out, sometimes against neighbours, friends and relatives."

Lawson and Lawless - who was described as obnoxious by his QC - both claimed that their actions had widespread support on the estate.

The trial heard that the pensioner, who was waiting for a hip operation, had been targeted ruthlessly - taunted in the street and savagely beaten a week before his death by two hooded men who burst into his graffiti-sprayed flat.

He led a lonely life and had befriended some of the children on the estate, but those involved with the murderous gang repaid him with vicious rumour-mongering and steadily worsening violence.

The trial was told that a murder plot was hatched over drunken drug-taking sessions, based on an illiterate blueprint drawn up by Day, who was then Lawson's 16-year-old girlfriend. This proposed not only a variety of ways of killing Wilkins but also gave details of alibis for those involved.

Extracts read to the jury included: "Put some socks in his mouth with some Sellotape over it. Pour petrol all over his flat and all over him. Then set him on fire. Then set fire to his flat making sure it is all blown up with him in it."

The trial heard details of Lawless's chronic drunkenness and fantasies, which included an attempt to persuade fellow prisoners on remand that he was a member of the Taliban. Lawson meanwhile openly boasted of the day that turpentine was poured through Wilkins's letterbox and set alight: "He is going to get done in. I am going to do it. He is going to get blown up."

The day after his victim's flat had been left a blackened ruin, he said to a friend: "I told you I would do him in. I killed Alf."

Wilkins's suffocated body was found in the kitchen of his flat in February last year with the word "Nonce" - prison slang for sex offender - scrawled on the window, and his 12-year-old black alsatian Lucky lying nearby. Lawson told Humberside police detectives after his arrest: "When it became known Alf was dead, everyone wanted to party."

Fairbanks was found not guilty of incitement to murder but admitted telling a witness Mandy Tasker, his next-door neighbour: "Tasker, you're a f***ing grass. I am going to petrol bomb your house."

Ian Lawless caught my eye hear but this is in UK I believe.  If it si irrelevant please delete.  I did not know and have been finding some other things out of country regarding the Lawless clan.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 28, 2009, 11:55:54 PM
Ok, it's midnight here on the East Coast.  Good night guys--keep up the good work.  Remember why we're here-

JUSTICE FOR SANDRA!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Kat_Gram on April 28, 2009, 11:58:48 PM
And you guys trying to prove what ?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 29, 2009, 12:08:58 AM
Mods therem is a very bad word in an article that I copied and pasted.  I should have struck through it before pasting but forgot.  ME sorry monkey... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 29, 2009, 12:12:37 AM
Mods therem is a very bad word in an article that I copied and pasted.  I should have struck through it before pasting but forgot.  ME sorry monkey... ::MonkeyNoNo::

It is in my last long post above, towards the end starts with f.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 12:16:21 AM
And you guys trying to prove what ?

I know Kat_Gram your thinking  ::MonkeyEek:: to all of this. But truly their is a bottom to all of this and the links are slowly falling into place - that the Lawless family is all connected within .. something that is not " Godly" ..
All centering around " Abuse within Clergy" primarily towards children ..
Which links to the Death of Sandra Cantu. It's too much for me to try to explain in one post.
The Lawless family of who are simply named - all have alias names - many names and past's and history's that are all associated with sexual abuse of children..
what you see within all the posts are pieces of a very entangled dynamic puzzle ..

 Monkey's are in pursuit for Justice for Sandra ...
That and Justice period, not letting the Lawless slide .. Not this time.



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 12:19:03 AM
Gordon Lawless
Home in 1930: Millinocket, Penobscot, Maine
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1924 
Relation to Head of House: Son 
Parent's Name: Alice L
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Alice L Lawless 41 
Katherine N Leclair 19 
Lionel L Leclair 2 4/12 
John F Lawless 14 
Dammey Lawless 11 
Donald Lawless 7 
Gordon Lawless 6
 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 12:20:44 AM
And you guys trying to prove what ?

I know Kat_Gram your thinking  ::MonkeyEek:: to all of this. But truly their is a bottom to all of this and the links are slowly falling into place - that the Lawless family is all connected within .. something that is not " Godly" ..
All centering around " Abuse within Clergy" primarily towards children ..
Which links to the Death of Sandra Cantu. It's too much for me to try to explain in one post.
The Lawless family of who are simply named - all have alias names - many names and past's and history's that are all associated with sexual abuse of children..
what you see within all the posts are pieces of a very entangled dynamic puzzle ..

 Monkey's are in pursuit for Justice for Sandra ...
That and Justice period, not letting the Lawless slide .. Not this time.



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 12:25:37 AM
Doubledecker

How in the world do you keep track of all what you post - I have a hard time myself.

I start going back, and I wind up forth and then my Monkey brain splits because I think of something and .. cant recall who ..or how I recall it ..
How do you keep tract of all this ?



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 12:25:51 AM
I got here because people were saying timothy john lawless the guy arrested for all the counts of sexual abuse in sacramento was related to melissa huckaby.

I decided to prove it or disprove it one LOL

so that is what brought me here LOL

so that is what I am doing. 

the only way to do this is to go through the whole family and all the people they married to see if they connect LOL

so that is what I am doing.

It looks like a jumbled up mess unless you familiarize yourself with all these names, but once you understand how they all connect you can then see we are really getting somewhere here.

I am also making a "report" form of all this information, which I will post when we have this all hooked up.  Shouldn't be too much longer until we figure out how all this is connected.  we just about have it for a link in the middle.

we are working from present back, and from past forward, they will meet up somewhre in between. 

but for those who are not really following along, this looks like one huge mess LOL

but really, we are getting there.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 12:29:23 AM
Doubledecker

How in the world do you keep track of all what you post - I have a hard time myself.

I start going back, and I wind up forth and then my Monkey brain splits because I think of something and .. cant recall who ..or how I recall it ..
How do you keep tract of all this ?



Its not easy LOL

but I do have all my work in a searchable database.  most of it I can remember, but when I can't I just go search for it.  but I have these names down pretty well now


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 12:33:32 AM
I got here because people were saying timothy john lawless the guy arrested for all the counts of sexual abuse in sacramento was related to melissa huckaby.

I decided to prove it or disprove it one LOL

so that is what brought me here LOL

so that is what I am doing. 

the only way to do this is to go through the whole family and all the people they married to see if they connect LOL

so that is what I am doing.

It looks like a jumbled up mess unless you familiarize yourself with all these names, but once you understand how they all connect you can then see we are really getting somewhere here.

I am also making a "report" form of all this information, which I will post when we have this all hooked up.  Shouldn't be too much longer until we figure out how all this is connected.  we just about have it for a link in the middle.

we are working from present back, and from past forward, they will meet up somewhre in between. 

but for those who are not really following along, this looks like one huge mess LOL

but really, we are getting there.  ::MonkeyCool::
I am going call you " DD" from now on in Sandra's Cages.
When I first joined SM - I did and still do at times what your doing when you post .. seems that if you type it that way it is easier to read ..when you add all the breaks between sentences. I am GUILTY too  :shock:. I learned though it just takes up too much space and its harder to read when someone does put spaces between sentences.
Not knockin you at all. You have done a tremendous amount of research and work - and YOU are breaking brick walls with your info... Just thought I would mention it ..
Again please don't take it personal as a Ugh. I read all your posts - all of them.
No Hate k ........ please don't find me that way  :smt049
Justice for Sandra :smt059


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 12:41:37 AM
the link I am missing and trying to find is gary d lawless who is the father of record for timothy John Lawless aks Gomes. 

timothy's brothers are Gary Duane Lawless and Jeffrey Carl Lawless, both aka gomes.

their mother is marylin Elizabeth Tieken
married Gary D lawless, she also married him the same date as Marylin E Short
she divorced him a month later.  she married manuel gomes 5 yrs later.

the father gary D lawless is the one who just is nowhere to be found. 

I have the famliy in glenn county ca, tehema county ca, butte county ca, shasta county ca, napa ca,

they all have arrest records, even the mother. 
drugs, dui's, battery, and there is a gary d lawless in butte county court records who failed to register as a sex offender but was found over in the alameda jail for charges involving a drug deal gone bad in oakland.  his sentence should have been up sometime this year, so he could be out now or he might still be in prison. 

if this is the person in the butte county jail then it would be the brother gary d lawless because of his age.  his brother and mother also had charges in butte county so I would think this is the gary of that family. 

if so, they we have to sex offenders in this family, timothy john lawless and gary d lawless his brother.

I am trying to find the father gary d lawless to see if he ties into the family of clifford lane lawless, melissa's grandfather.  so this is why we are going up and down all the lawless lines to find this guy and see how all this family connects.  while doing so, we are running into more and more child molesters within the lawless lines. 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 12:45:26 AM
I got here because people were saying timothy john lawless the guy arrested for all the counts of sexual abuse in sacramento was related to melissa huckaby.

I decided to prove it or disprove it one LOL

so that is what brought me here LOL

so that is what I am doing. 

the only way to do this is to go through the whole family and all the people they married to see if they connect LOL

so that is what I am doing.

It looks like a jumbled up mess unless you familiarize yourself with all these names, but once you understand how they all connect you can then see we are really getting somewhere here.

I am also making a "report" form of all this information, which I will post when we have this all hooked up.  Shouldn't be too much longer until we figure out how all this is connected.  we just about have it for a link in the middle.

we are working from present back, and from past forward, they will meet up somewhre in between. 

but for those who are not really following along, this looks like one huge mess LOL

but really, we are getting there.  ::MonkeyCool::
I am going call you " DD" from now on in Sandra's Cages.
When I first joined SM - I did and still do at times what your doing when you post .. seems that if you type it that way it is easier to read ..when you add all the breaks between sentences. I am GUILTY too  :shock:. I learned though it just takes up too much space and its harder to read when someone does put spaces between sentences.
Not knockin you at all. You have done a tremendous amount of research and work - and YOU are breaking brick walls with your info... Just thought I would mention it ..
Again please don't take it personal as a Ugh. I read all your posts - all of them.
No Hate k ........ please don't find me that way  :smt049
Justice for Sandra :smt059


haha oh on the spacing of sentences. 
I guess I do that because I usually don't "talk" much and just use to separating research names etc so it is not all ran together.  Never even thought of it before. LOL



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 12:47:06 AM
DD
My biggest worst is I use these ........ ........ .......... ......... and big spaces - but I have learned its easier to read ( for the Reader) if the bulk of sentences posted are together.
Take advantage of the Bold and the Underline and the color Changes - Just highlight what you want to be noticed most within your post and click on the buttons above
and then there is the Monkey Icon's and the (more) you can click and it will bring up a bunch icons that you can put into your posts as well. 

DD is  ::MonkeyDance:: & is so Appreciated ! Both for your efforts & posts :thumright: !!
You just joined here and Your Amazing and Your efforts are just off the charts - Just WOW.
Take advantage of the Buttons above, especially when you want the Eye to jump to the statement that means the most within your post.



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 12:57:51 AM
DD in a Nutshell what is your gut feeling of  " Melissa Huckaby" ?



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 01:04:58 AM
DD in a Nutshell what is your gut feeling of  " Melissa Huckaby" ?

In a nutshell?  She's a nut! LOL  Seriously though, I don't believe she is "crazy" at all.  She's not legally insane.  She's warped and twisted.  She likes attention, she is all about me, me, me.  She probably hates the world and wants to destroy whatever she does not like.  That is how I see her.  I do believe she is part of something that they have not dug up yet, or if they have, they are not telling anyone. I have my own theory about her and all of this, but I will just work on trying to prove things that will back up my thoughts.  It will all come out if we keep digging.  I'm sure of that.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 01:11:51 AM
John Lawless in Provo Utah - 1982

This guy really gets around and likes school. 

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=4a4MAAAAIBAJ&sjid=i2MDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3297,1422609&dq=brewster+lawless+seattle+john-lawles


Christmas 1982

Quad City Herald Dec. 30, 1982

Family together
   Spending Christmas with Don and Betty Johnson were Nick and Nancy Pizzitola from Seattle, and Nick's father, Charles Pizzitola from Texas; Jerry and Luann Lawless and Ian of East Wenatchee; John Lawless, who is home for ten days from the BYU in Provo, Utah, and Carleen and Tom Shepherd, Terry, Sarah and Judd, and Bill Lawless, all of Brewster.

here is Nancy
Name: Nancy L Lawless  
Gender: Female 
Residence State: Washington 
Spouse: Nicholas A Pizzitola
Spouse residence state: Washington 
Marriage Date: 19 Feb 1977
Marriage city: Virginia City 
Officiant type: Civil celebrant 
Recorded date: 16 Mar 1977
Recorded city: Reno 

I bet Nancy is the daughter of betty and 1st husband richard Birdette Lawless, uncle of CLL. 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 01:28:06 AM
DD in a Nutshell what is your gut feeling of  " Melissa Huckaby" ?

In a nutshell?  She's a nut! LOL  Seriously though, I don't believe she is "crazy" at all.  She's not legally insane.  She's warped and twisted.  She likes attention, she is all about me, me, me.  She probably hates the world and wants to destroy whatever she does not like.  That is how I see her.  I do believe she is part of something that they have not dug up yet, or if they have, they are not telling anyone. I have my own theory about her and all of this, but I will just work on trying to prove things that will back up my thoughts.  It will all come out if we keep digging.  I'm sure of that.
When I first saw the Vid of her in Court and her expressions " Trigger Words" that caused her to Melt. My first thoughts were " she witnessed Sandra being Raped" and Sandra being Killed .. That is my gut. She was there.
I think that She lured Sandra into the Lawless Home, then Drugged her and stuffed her into the suitcase ..And left it in the Driveway. For another to Pick up, and she then drove off and went to the Church to meet who. I think that MH is a female chicken hawk..
She got away with it with Ms. Polk's Child. She lured her, drugged her and gave her to God know's who for a few hours to do God knows what - and they Paid her, paid her well.
And then Sandra was " right there" and she was yet another victim.
If you read " TracyGirl" her posts in Sandra's Cage - She lives in Tracy.
The Day that Sandra Cantu was declared missing " March 27th" was the day of a funeral for a slain officer of the Tracy Police Dept. The entire city was caught up with the Funeral precession and all LE was either involved or away from their normal posts - TG said that she witnessed the Funeral through her city during her drive home - hours 4-5 PM.
Sandra as we all know was last seen at 4:30ish ..
There were over 20k residents standing curbside for this Officer - and yet SANDRA was reported by Mom missing around 8 pm.
The person who transported Sandra knew that the LE were all tied up into this Funeral and just somehow skated by ...
Because MH reported that evening to police that her " Eddie Bauer Suitcase" was stolen after Sandra was reported Missing. Because MH reported the Suitcase missing after 8:30pm on March 27th. She called Tracy LE and said her suitcase had been stolen - Hmph. Well she left it in the driveway in the mid after noon because her reports are the "Kids" were getting off the bus and I thought they may have seen something ..
Yet then she did not go to the LE station to file a report due to she was told she could file it online ..yet then turned around and said she had no internet connection to do so.
Yet on the Vid's with Connie Lawless she states that the Computers were taken from the Lawless Home on April 8th I believe.

Connie Lawless is a liar, she is not in denial, she is not to be looked upon as a fragile old woman .. she is what she is a product of her marriage and past. She is the Key to all of this. She was there when Sandra entered the Lawless home. Jmo's .. but Its all going to come out. There are all guilty and are responsible for Sandra's Death.
again jmo.
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 29, 2009, 01:36:44 AM
Who do you think might be Alice L.'s husband.  Does the L stand for her maiden name or what???  My brain is tired.  I wonder if one of her son's is named after Dad.....


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 29, 2009, 01:48:38 AM
I found this with March 28, 1991 dod for Alice L. Lawless.  There isn't anything else on page about family or anything.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 01:51:36 AM
Blink do you have a email address?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 29, 2009, 01:57:56 AM
Blink do you have a email address?

Email Klaas, she will connect us.
B


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 02:02:29 AM
Blink do you have a email address?

Email Klaas, she will connect us.
B
K ...Thank U Blink


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 29, 2009, 03:02:53 AM
Doubledecker lookee here  ::MonkeyEek::

I don't recall this business info Timothy Lawless

 http://www.spoke.com/info/pXM5Ghp/TimLawless

Tim Lawless This is me
Chase Paymentech Solutions

15446 Bel Red Road 330
Redmond, WA 98052-5507      Send E-mail 
  Get More Info   
Has this info changed? 
Not Tim? Claim your own profile 
Tim Lawless's Colleagues
1,323 contacts at Chase Paymentech Solutions

Monique Ciccarone
National Marketing Manager
Roger Hart
Executive Vice President
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Director, Corporate Alliances
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SVP Business Development

Don and Betty Johnson have a daughter named Monique and a granddaughter named Diedra

This links him to them if only in aquaintance but I have a feeling it's more.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: GramaMonkey on April 29, 2009, 08:46:55 AM
O/T -

Boo Monkey is celebrating a Birthday today.  Please go to the Monkey Lounge as a thread has been started. 



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: GramaMonkey on April 29, 2009, 09:15:35 AM
O/T -

Boo Monkey is celebrating a Birthday today.  Please go to the Monkey Lounge as a thread has been started. 

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4977.0


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 11:52:19 AM
Good Morning!  Wow did you guys ever get a lot done while I was away pulling my brain back in place !  I have read through and rather than answering each post want to synopsis.

To the poster who found the obit and is willing to sign up, it would be great to see it to see what names are listing - and yes Wyks really took one for the team the other day!

Carleen Lawless/Sheperd/Shepard/Michael

She was married to Tom Shepard and I have found this on her.  Not sure where the name Michael fits in yet:

Carleen A Lawless Age 54, Brewster, WA
Carlee Lawless
Carlee A Lawless
Carleen Lawless
Carlee Michael
Carleen Michael
Carleen A Michael
Carleen A Shepard
Carleen Sheperd


I left off working on Ralph Devere Lawless brother of George Webster.  Would it be best to continue on this or should I move on to the next sibling of George?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 29, 2009, 12:10:18 PM

To the poster who found the obit and is willing to sign up, it would be great to see it to see what names are listing - and yes Wyks really took one for the team the other day!


My pleasure.  Turns out it's not a Obit, but a Hearing on a Petition for Distribution of his estate.  But there some useful info here anyway.




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 29, 2009, 12:11:22 PM

To the poster who found the obit and is willing to sign up, it would be great to see it to see what names are listing - and yes Wyks really took one for the team the other day!


My pleasure.  Turns out it's not a Obit, but a Hearing on a Petition for Distribution of his estate.  But there some useful info here anyway.




Sorry, you can delete that--wrong one. . . obviously. . .


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 29, 2009, 12:14:56 PM

To the poster who found the obit and is willing to sign up, it would be great to see it to see what names are listing - and yes Wyks really took one for the team the other day!


Let's try this again--My pleasure.  Again, it's a notice of distribution of estate:



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Wyks on April 29, 2009, 12:16:07 PM

<respectully snipped>
 
Here's the link if anyone has access.  http://www.footnote.com/document/65092106/

If no one has access, let me know and I'll join and buy it.  Call it "taking one for the team" but one not nearly as courageous as Wyks. . .

  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyTongue::

Am wayyyyyyyyy the heck back on page I dunno, and am just amazed and astonished at all the work being done with this!  Will roll up my sleeves and join in, if I can ever catch up with y'all!  heeeeeeeee



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 12:29:23 PM
Thanks Jess! So his brother William Bryan looked after the estate. 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 12:36:57 PM
Ralph Devere Lawless is busried in the Locust Grove Cemetery , Brewster, Washington:

Lawless, Ralph D, b. Jan 01, 1902, d. May 23, 1963, Washington, Pvt US Army WWI, SW side, B-78 L-4


Here is the rest of the Lawless clan that are also buried there:

Lawless, Esther L, b. Oct 23, 1897, d. Jan 20, 1983, s/by George W, SW side, B-90 L-2
Lawless, George W, b. Apr 28, 1892, d. Dec 06, 1968, Washington Pfc 91st Div Mil Police Co WWI, SW side, B-90 L-1
Lawless, Gladys M, b. 1899, d. 1966 , SW side
Lawless, John, b. Nov 24, 1893, d. Feb 06, 1965, Washington Pfc Hq Det 316th Ammo Train WWI, SW side, B-78 L-5
Lawless, Nancy H, b. 1865, d. 1945, SW side, B-78 L-1
Lawless, Ralph D, b. Jan 01, 1902, d. May 23, 1963, Washington, Pvt US Army WWI, SW side, B-78 L-4
Lawless, Richard B, b. (Mar 22) 1910, d. (May 26) 1962, Beloved Husband and Father, SW side, B-78 L-12
Lawless, William B., b. 08/31/1897, d. 8/15/1975, by Gladys, SW side, B-78 L-7




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 12:37:53 PM
good morning

Trying to get my thoughts together and go at this again today.  I have also been putting everything in report form so maybe I should post at least the basic family reports so it is all together for everyone to use and expand from.  No need for several people to redo the same work. 

let me get coffee(I NEED IT)and I will get the basic family reports on here for each.  I can't possibly add all the docs, photos, notes, newsclippings etc, it would take a whole website LOL. 

If anyone has a name they need to know if I researched it yet and what I have, just let me know, I have been compiling everything into a searchable database, so all I have to do is plug in the name and see what info we already have.

 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 12:38:20 PM
Looking at all the information we have found on this family, if nothing else we have put their family tree together for them for free!   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 12:40:48 PM
good morning

Trying to get my thoughts together and go at this again today.  I have also been putting everything in report form so maybe I should post at least the basic family reports so it is all together for everyone to use and expand from.  No need for several people to redo the same work. 

let me get coffee(I NEED IT)and I will get the basic family reports on here for each.  I can't possibly add all the docs, photos, notes, newsclippings etc, it would take a whole website LOL. 

If anyone has a name they need to know if I researched it yet and what I have, just let me know, I have been compiling everything into a searchable database, so all I have to do is plug in the name and see what info we already have.

 

good morning!  I am just starting on

Richard Birdette Lawless
B 1909 Washington
D 26 May 1962 Brewster, WA

There was little I could find on Ralph Devere and based on his headstone inscription do not believe he ever spawned offspring.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 12:42:37 PM
Good Morning!  Wow did you guys ever get a lot done while I was away pulling my brain back in place !  I have read through and rather than answering each post want to synopsis.

To the poster who found the obit and is willing to sign up, it would be great to see it to see what names are listing - and yes Wyks really took one for the team the other day!

Carleen Lawless/Sheperd/Shepard/Michael

She was married to Tom Shepard and I have found this on her.  Not sure where the name Michael fits in yet:

Carleen A Lawless Age 54, Brewster, WA
Carlee Lawless
Carlee A Lawless
Carleen Lawless
Carlee Michael
Carleen Michael
Carleen A Michael
Carleen A Shepard
Carleen Sheperd


I left off working on Ralph Devere Lawless brother of George Webster.  Would it be best to continue on this or should I move on to the next sibling of George?


I'll post what I have on ralph and maybe you can see what you have that I don't and what I have that you don't so we can get it all together.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 12:44:02 PM
Looking at all the information we have found on this family, if nothing else we have put their family tree together for them for free!   ::MonkeyLaugh::

LOL I was thinking the same thing.  We are doing all their genealogy for them on both sides LOL


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 29, 2009, 01:00:50 PM
Census data for John M. Lawless, circia 1930.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 01:01:29 PM
Richard Birdette Lawless is going to take most of the day.  I have already found three marriages for him and all have spawned children!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 29, 2009, 01:01:48 PM
Census data for John M. Lawless, circia 1930.

Sorry, I'm really messing up today.  I had to attach only the portion showing the lawlesses, as the attachment is too big.



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 29, 2009, 01:04:43 PM
Census data for John M. Lawless, circia 1930.

Sorry, I'm really messing up today.  I had to attach only the portion showing the lawlesses, as the attachment is too big.



The headings, from left to right, are attached:







Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 01:10:03 PM
Children of Richard Birdette Lawless and Bette June Grimes

Gerald d lawless
married Luanne

John Lawless


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 01:11:14 PM
ooops

didn't get that all posted

here it is

what I have on richard birdette Lawless

_______________________________

Richard Birdette Lawless Mar 22 1910 - Uncle of CLL
Birth: mar 22 1910
Wenatchee, Chelan, Washington
Death: may 26 1962
Brewster, Okanogan, Washington

Parents
Jame H lawless
Birth: 15 Mar 1865/66
Rockspring, Patrick, Virginia, United States
Death: Nov 1945
Missouri, United States

nancy hanse rowland
Birth: jan 5 1865
glasgow, barro, KY
Death: dec 9 1945
Omark, Okanogan, WA


1910 Census
Name: Bardette Lawless
Age in 1910: 1/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head-of-house: Son
Father's Name: James H W
Father's Birth Place: Indiana
Mother's Name: Nancy H
Mother's Birth Place: Kentucky
Home in 1910: Malaga, Chelan, Washington
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James H W Lawless 43
Nancy H Lawless 45
George W Lawless 17
John M Lawless 16
William B Lawless 12
Ralph D Lawless 8
Agnes A Lawless 6
Bardette Lawless 1/12

1920 Census
Name: Richard D Lawless
Home in 1920: Bodie, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 9 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1911
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head-of-house: Son
Father's Birth Place: Indiana
Mother's Name: Nancy W
Mother's Birth Place: Illinois
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Male
Image: 171
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Nancy W Lawless 54
George W Lawless 27
William B Lawless 22
Ralph D Lawless 18
Agnes A Lawless 15
Richard D Lawless 9
Mabel P Heley 28
Georgie P Heley 8


1930 Census
Name: Richard B Lawless
Home in 1930: Brewster, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head-of-house: Lodger
Race: White
Occupation:
Education:
Military service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Clarence H Whitley 40
Hilda G Whitley 35
Ila O Whitley 15
Edward C Whitley 13
Bethell M Whitley 10
Olive M Whitley 8
Charles Roller 67
Amandus Benson 65
Richard B Lawless 20

1936
Marriage to Wilma Toots Holt
Seattle, King, Washington, United States

Dec 31 1945
Marriage to Bette June Grimes
Pateros, Okanogan, Washington, United States
(she later{june 6, 1965} married Donald Lafayette Johnson - I have her info)

DEATH-May 26,1962
Name: Richard Lawless
SSN: xxxxxxx (I have this if you need it, can't post it)
Born: 22 Mar 1910
Died: May 1962
State (Year) SSN issued: Washington (Before 1951)


Children of Richard Birdette Lawless and Bette June Grimes

Gerald d lawless
married Luanne

John Lawless


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 01:12:57 PM
Richard Birdette Lawless is going to take most of the day.  I have already found three marriages for him and all have spawned children!

well I posted a jump start for you, who is his 3rd wife, I only have two so far?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Wyks on April 29, 2009, 01:13:49 PM
Doubledecker

How in the world do you keep track of all what you post - I have a hard time myself.

I start going back, and I wind up forth and then my Monkey brain splits because I think of something and .. cant recall who ..or how I recall it ..
How do you keep tract of all this ?



Would sure like to know this!!!  Have a visual of each of you with post-it notes stuck everywhere around you, on the comp, the walls, desk, shelves, even the cat that wanders by.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Amazing work!! 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 01:14:37 PM
I have tons of info on Bette June Grimes, first wife of richard Birdette Lawless

I have nothing yet on his wife wilma toots


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 01:24:26 PM
Ralph Devere lawless
Birth: jan 1 1902
New Brunswick, Canada 
Death: May 23 1963
Okanogan , Brewster, WA 

Parents
Jame H lawless
Birth: 15 Mar 1865/66
Rockspring, Patrick, Virginia, United States 
Death: Nov 1945
Missouri, United States 

nancy hanse rowland
Birth: jan 5 1865
glasgow, barro, KY 
Death: dec 9 1945
Omark, Okanogan, WA 
   

1910 Census- age 8
Residence Malaga, Chelan, Washington
1910 United States Federal Census

Name: Ralph D Lawless
Age in 1910: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head-of-house: Son 
Father's Name: James H W
Father's Birth Place: Indiana 
Mother's Name: Nancy H 
Mother's Birth Place: Kentucky 
Home in 1910: Malaga, Chelan, Washington
Marital Status: Single 
Race: White
Gender: Male 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
James H W Lawless 43 
Nancy H Lawless 45 
George W Lawless 17 
John M Lawless 16 
William B Lawless 12 
Ralph D Lawless 8 
Agnes A Lawless 6 
Bardette Lawless 1/12 
 



1920 Census - age 18
Residence
Bodie, Okanogan, Washington
1920 United States Federal Census

Name: Ralph D Lawless
Home in 1920: Bodie, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 18 years 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head-of-house: Son 
Father's Birth Place: Indiana 
Mother's Name: Nancy W
Mother's Birth Place: Illinois 
Marital Status: Single 
Race: White
Sex: Male
Able to read: Yes 
Able to Write: Yes 
Image: 171 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Nancy W Lawless 54 
George W Lawless 27 
William B Lawless 22 
Ralph D Lawless 18 
Agnes A Lawless 15 
Richard D Lawless 9 
Mabel P Heley 28 
Georgie P Heley 8 
 


1930 Census - age 28
Residence
Brewster, Okanogan, Washington

1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Ralph D Lawless
Home in 1930: Brewster, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902 
Birthplace: Washington 
Relation to Head-of-house: Lodger 
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Ben Buob 35 
Ralph D Lawless 28 
John F Dougherty 48 
William M Ginn 55 
Marshall J C Andrews 50 
Minnie Andrews 49 
Theo L Pederson 24 
 


Death age 61
May 23 1963, Okanogan , Brewster, WA



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 29, 2009, 01:28:41 PM
Quad City Herald July 17,1986
30th grandchild
A baby boy, their fourth boy, was born Monday July 14 to Gerry and Luanne Lawless, East

Wenatchee.
Kai Aaron Richard Lawless was born in Northcentral Washington Hospital.
3 brothers of the home Ian, Brynne, and Colt.  Grandparents - Mr and Mrs Don Johnson,

Brewster and Mr. and Mrs. Dean Warner, Orondo. He is the 30th grandchild for the Johnsons.

Here is info regarding names of some of Gerald siblings and birthdate of one.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 01:29:11 PM
I wonder if there is any way the admin could have a thread to put the completed work reports on, so it is not all lost inside of this work thread? I really hate asking because I am so new here, but if the "completed" work was all in report form and all together in one separate place, this information would not get lost and it would make for very easy reference for those trying to work on this and everyone would not be repeating someone elses work. Not to mention everyone could understand it.

Is that possible?
? ? ?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 01:35:17 PM
Richard Birdette Lawless
B 22 Mar 1910 Washington
D 26 May 1962 Brewster, WA

Locust Grove Cemetery Brewster, WA
Headstone
Lawless, Richard B, b. (Mar 22) 1910, d. (May 26) 1962, Beloved Husband and Father, SW side, B-78 L-12

Marriage 1 31 Dec 1945, Pateros, WA

Bette Jane Grimes
B 27 Jun 1923, Albion , MT

Parents Paul Johanthan Grimes  and Florence Lucile Shepard


Richard Birdette Lawless and Bette Jane Grimes had four children:


Child one - Nancy Lawless  married Nick Pizzitola (father was Charles Nickolas Pizzitola mother was Audrey Black)


There is an article about Nick and Nancy here : http://www.footnote.com/document/35586762/

that I can not get to but it mentions other family. 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 01:39:49 PM
Bringing forward the article on Nick and Nancy spending Christmas at the Johnson's.



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 01:53:35 PM
Wife of Richard Birdette Lawless Uncle of CLL
she then married Donald Lafayette Johnson


Parents of Bette June Grimes
Paul Jonathan Grimes
Birth: 4 Mar 1887
Des Moines, Polk, Iowa, United States 
Death: 7 Jun 1962
Prosser, Benton, Washington, United States 

Florence Lucile Shepard
Birth: 7 Jan 1899
Flora, Clay, Illinois, United States 
Death: 8 Mar 1987
Prosser, Benton, Washington, United States 

______________________
Bette June Grimes
Birth: 27 Jun 1923
Albion, Carter, Montana, United States 
Death: ?


1930 Census  age 7
Residence
Township 12, Butte, South Dakota
1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Betty J Grimes
Home in 1930: Township 12, Butte, South Dakota
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1924 
Relation to Head-of-house: Daughter 
Father's Name: Paul J
Mother's Name: Florence L
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Paul J Grimes 43 
Florence L Grimes 31 
Paul E Grimes 8 
Betty J Grimes 6 
Robert A Grimes 4 
Melvin R Grimes 3 
W B Lyons 52 
 

Dec 31, 1945 - age 22
Marriage to Richard Birdette lawless
Pateros, Okanogan, Washington, United States
 
June 6, 1965 - age 41
Marriage to Donald Lafayette Johnson
Brewster, Okanogan, Washington, United States

I have info on Donald Lafayette Johnson



 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 29, 2009, 01:55:03 PM
Another Lawless attending BYU.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?
id=Q5cNAAAAIBAJ&sjid=RGMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3563,1424718&dq=lawless

Quad City Herald March 18,1982

Don and Betty Johnson visited recently in Salt Lake City with members of Don's family
Betty's son, John Lawless, attending school at BYU in Provo, visited them in Salt Lake.

Note that Don Johnson has family in Utah as we are searching for Dale Johnson also.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 01:57:00 PM
Richard Birdette Lawless and Bette Jane Grimes had four children:

Child two Gerry Lawless  married a Luanne Warner (parents were Dean Warner and Ms. Wainscott)

They had three children:

Ian  Lawless
Brynne Lawless
Colt Lawless
Kai Aaron Richard Lawless

Note to all – Does anyone else find it strange that a Lawless married a Warner and the church that Lane has is named “Warner”?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 01:58:20 PM
Another Lawless attending BYU.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?
id=Q5cNAAAAIBAJ&sjid=RGMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3563,1424718&dq=lawless

Quad City Herald March 18,1982

Don and Betty Johnson visited recently in Salt Lake City with members of Don's family
Betty's son, John Lawless, attending school at BYU in Provo, visited them in Salt Lake.

Note that Don Johnson has family in Utah as we are searching for Dale Johnson also.



I'll post what I have on Don Johnson line


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 01:59:02 PM
Sorry last post should say that Gerry and Luanne Lawless had FOUR children.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 29, 2009, 01:59:04 PM
Quad City Herald July 17,1986
30th grandchild
A baby boy, their fourth boy, was born Monday July 14 to Gerry and Luanne Lawless, East

Wenatchee.
Kai Aaron Richard Lawless was born in Northcentral Washington Hospital.
3 brothers of the home Ian, Brynne, and Colt.  Grandparents - Mr and Mrs Don Johnson,
Brewster and Mr. and Mrs. Dean Warner, Orondo. He is the 30th grandchild for the Johnsons.

Here is info regarding names of some of Gerald siblings and birthdate of one.

Here is the link for the above post

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=5YMAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1WUDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4773,1969020&dq=grandchild+aaron-richard-lawless


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 02:06:54 PM
Donald Lafayette Johnson 8/19/23 2nd M. of Bette June Grimes

Parents
George Lafayette Johnson
Birth: 9 Oct 1885
Mapleton, Utah, Utah, United States 
Death: 22 Jan 1968
Nampa, Canyon, Idaho, United States 

Julia Bisbee Crandall
Birth: 18 Dec 1887
Vernal, Uinta, Utah, United States 
Death: 22 Aug 1978
St George, Washington, Utah, United States 

Donald Lafayette Johnson
Birth: 19 Aug 1923
Huston, Canyon, Idaho, United States 
Death: 14 Dec 2005
Wenatchee, Chelan, Washington, United States 

Birth Aug 19, 1923
Huston, Canyon, Idaho, United States
Social Security Death Index

June 6, 1965 - age 41
Marriage to Bette June Grimes
Brewster, Okanogan, Washington, United States

Death December 14, 2005 - age 82
Wenatchee, Chelan, Washington, United States
Social Security Death Index
about Donald L. Johnson
Name: Donald L. Johnson
SSN: xxxxxx  I have this number, can't post on the board
Last Residence: 98802  East Wenatchee, Douglas, Washington
Born: 19 Aug 1923
Died: 14 Dec 2005
State (Year) SSN issued: Idaho (Before 1951) 


He was in the Navy
I have a photo of him dressed in Navy Uniform.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 02:14:19 PM
Richard Birdette Lawless and Bette Jane Grimes had four children:

Child two Gerry Lawless  married a Luanne Warner (parents were Dean Warner and Ms. Wainscott)

They had three children:

Ian  Lawless
Brynne Lawless
Colt Lawless
Kai Aaron Richard Lawless

Note to all – Does anyone else find it strange that a Lawless married a Warner and the church that Lane has is named “Warner”?


I want to edit this one.  It looks like Luanne Warner was married before to a "Campbell"  I am finding a Ein Lawless that is a child of  Luanne Campbell who married Gerry Lawless.  I swear this family has more twists than a package of twizzlers.  Can someone hunt down Luanne Warner/Campbell/Lawless and confirm if in fact this is true?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Wyks on April 29, 2009, 02:22:29 PM
Richard Birdette Lawless and Bette Jane Grimes had four children:

Child two Gerry Lawless  married a Luanne Warner (parents were Dean Warner and Ms. Wainscott)

They had three children:

Ian  Lawless
Brynne Lawless
Colt Lawless
Kai Aaron Richard Lawless

Note to all – Does anyone else find it strange that a Lawless married a Warner and the church that Lane has is named “Warner”?


Yes I think it's very odd! 

Plus another strange thing about the Warner Alliance Church in Lewiston, Idaho.  The current pastor there, Bill Creutzberg, (who also pastors the First Church of God in Clarksburg WA), said that he knows nothing about Pastor Lane Lawless.  Even tho Lane is said to have pastored both churches as well.  Weird.  Would love for the FBI to give this Creutzberg a LDT.  heh

http://www.klewtv.com/news/43641802.html (http://www.klewtv.com/news/43641802.html)






Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 29, 2009, 02:25:19 PM
I just found this.  Loks like we are working the same puzzle piece???????

http://news.google.com/newspapers?

id=zq4MAAAAIBAJ&sjid=i2MDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6343,295561&dq=lawless
Quad City Herald Aug 5, 1982

Family picnic in backyard of Don and Betty Johnson in Brewster. Present were Nancy and Nick Pizzaitola, Seattle; Jerry and Luann Lawless and Ein, Wenatchee; and Tom and Carleen Sheperd, Sarah and Judd and Bill Lawless, all of Brewster.
Jerry Lawless and Luann Campbell were married July 23 at Coeur d'Alene. There will be a reception for them Saturday evening, August 7, at the Wenatchee Convention Center.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 02:29:11 PM
Parents of  Jame H lawless (James is also listed as James Webster Lawless)
McNealy A M Lawless  &  Sarah Ann Nicholas

Jame H lawless
Birth:  15 Mar 1865/66
Rockspring, Patrick, Virginia, United States 
Death:  Nov 1945
Missouri, United States 

James married Nancy May 14 1890 in Tecumseh, Johnson, New Brunswick, Canada

nancy hanse rowland
Birth:  jan 5 1865
glasgow, barro, KY 
Death:  dec 9 1945
Omark, Okanogan, WA 


Children of Jame H lawless and nancy hanse rowland

Mabel Pearl lawless       
B.1890 Tecumseh, Johnson, Nebraska, United States
D  Nov 6 1959 Okanogan, Brewster, WA  - 

george webster lawless       
B 28 Apr 1892Fremont, Dodge, Nebraska, United States 
D 11 Nov 1969 Washington, United States   

Zina Ellen lawless       
B oct 1895 Nebraska, United States 
D jul 22 1897 Nebraska, United States   

William Bryan lawless       
B aug 31 1897 Nebraska, United States 
D aug 15 1975 Okanogan, Brewster WA   

Ralph Devere lawless       
B jan 1 1902 New Brunswick, Canada 
D May 23 1963 Okanogan , Brewster, WA   

agnes lawless       
B abt 1904 Washington 
D aug 10 1976 Washington

Richard Birdette lawless       
B mar 22 1910  Wenatchee, Chelan, Washington
D may 26 1962 Brewster, Okanogan, Washington   

john mack lawless   
B nov 23 1983 York, York, Nebraska, United States 
D feb 6 1965 California, United States   
 


 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 29, 2009, 02:31:38 PM
I wonder if there is any way the admin could have a thread to put the completed work reports on, so it is not all lost inside of this work thread? I really hate asking because I am so new here, but if the "completed" work was all in report form and all together in one separate place, this information would not get lost and it would make for very easy reference for those trying to work on this and everyone would not be repeating someone elses work. Not to mention everyone could understand it.

Is that possible?
? ? ?
Sure, not to answer for a mod of course, but when it is ready in report form, depending on the format, mods will sticky it, like this thread is
B


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 29, 2009, 02:33:25 PM
I have to leave for a while but I'll bbl.

Good Luck with the search.



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 02:34:28 PM
Richard Birdette Lawless and Bette Jane Grimes had four children:

Child three Carleen Lawless married Tom  Shepard (parents are George Leo Shepard b. 26 Oct 1910 Old Everts, South Dakota
Mother Violet Louise Olmsted B 20 Mar 1916 Pollock, South Dakota

Child one Sarah  Shepard
Child two Judd Shepard
Child three Terry Shepard
One of the above two Shepard girls marries a Theal


Quad-City Herald - Aug 20, 1981
Carleen Shepard Childcare Group
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=KpcNAAAAIBAJ&sjid=RGMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4519,33098&dq=carleen+brewster

Second marriage for Carleen Lawless/Shepard (Shepherd) to unknown and they seem to have one male child in that marriage.  This one is driving me nuts!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 02:50:30 PM
Richard Birdette Lawless and Bette Jane Grimes had four children:

Child three Carleen Lawless married Tom  Shepard (parents are George Leo Shepard b. 26 Oct 1910 Old Everts, South Dakota
Mother Violet Louise Olmsted B 20 Mar 1916 Pollock, South Dakota

Child one Sarah  Shepard
Child two Judd Shepard
Child three Terry Shepard
One of the above two Shepard girls marries a Theal


Quad-City Herald - Aug 20, 1981
Carleen Shepard Childcare Group
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=KpcNAAAAIBAJ&sjid=RGMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4519,33098&dq=carleen+brewster

Second marriage for Carleen Lawless/Shepard (Shepherd) to unknown and they seem to have one male child in that marriage.  This one is driving me nuts!


I figured it out and there is NO SECOND marraige for Carleen Lawless.  Their was a previous marriage for her husband Tom Shepard and they had a son.  He goes by the name Shepard so it is all good.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 04:55:20 PM
Richard Birdette Lawless and Bette Jane Grimes had four children:

Child Four John Lawless married Ms. Shutt ( father Mr Shutt mother Ms. Halliday)
 They had 4 children

Child one male
Child two male
Child three female
Child four male

Chronology of John:

1976 played football in High School

1979 flys home to visit parents Betty and Don Johnson from North Seattle Community College.

1978 flew to Louisville Kentucky to visit John McCollum his former Bridge Port Teacher

1982 (Mar) Don and Betty Johnson are in Utah visiting and John who is attending school at BYU in Provo visited them in Salt Lake.

1982 (Dec) visits Brewster for 10 days from BYU in Provo

1983 Returns to parents home( Don and Betty Johnson) after attending BYU in Utah.  Plans to continue schooling during winter quarter.

1986 calls home at Christmas from Bangor, Maine

I loose him after 1986. Is this when he married Ms. Shutt and settles there to have his 4 children?
 I even signed into BYU site to search their Alumi.  For someone who went to BYU for so long and NOTHING to come up on him there is nuts.  It is almost like they wiped him off their site?

this one needs further searching.

I am going to go after  Richard Birdette Lawless first wife Wilma "Toots" Holt and marriage now.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 05:31:53 PM
I'll try to find john above, child of richard birdette lawless and bette june


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 29, 2009, 05:34:41 PM
Hey Monkeys get a load of all the aliases for Louann Lawless and not one of them is Campbell   ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

US Search people search
Luanne Lawless

http://preview.ussearch.com/preview/ala/newsearch?&searchLName=LAWLESS&searchFName=LUANN&adID=145-0000000017&adsource=145&TID=0&searchtab=people&sourceid=2466461

Luanne Fox
Luanne D Fox
Luanna Lacei
Luanna D Lacei
Luanna Dee Lacei
Luanne D Lacei
Luwanna Lacei
Lauanne Lawless
Luane Lawless
Luanna Lawless
Luanne Lawless
Luanne D Lawless
Luanne Warner
Luanne D Warner
age  51
East Wenatchee , WA
Spokane , WA
Newhall , CA
Wenatchee , WA
Orondo , WA
Wrangell , AK

Intellius
http://www.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&&PHPSESSID=523ab235e0f9c05afd8d413256e782ed
Luanne D Lawless
View Details
 51  E Wenatchee, WA
Wenatchee, WA
Whittier, CA
East Wenatchee, WA
Oroville, WA       
Luanne D Lawless
Gerry D Lawless
Kai A.r. Lawless
Gerald D Lawless 





Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 05:36:01 PM
Well this is intereting:

Am searching for the burial site of my grandfather James H. Lawless, as well as any other info. He left his family in Brewster, WA in 1918 and then returned for a short time in 1938 with no explanation for his whereabouts for the past 20 yrs. After a few months he left again and the family heard nothing until Nov. 1945 when a request for burial funds came from somewhere in Missouri. Incarceration? 2nd family?

then she corrects:

The correct middle initial is W,not H, we've discovered.James Webster Lawless. And it may have been 1936 that he reappeared in WA. instead of 1938. Please respond if you have any info on my grandfather. Thanks


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 05:38:55 PM
Hey Monkeys get a load of all the aliases for Louann Lawless and not one of them is Campbell   ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

US Search people search
Luanne Lawless

http://preview.ussearch.com/preview/ala/newsearch?&searchLName=LAWLESS&searchFName=LUANN&adID=145-0000000017&adsource=145&TID=0&searchtab=people&sourceid=2466461

Luanne Fox
Luanne D Fox
Luanna Lacei
Luanna D Lacei
Luanna Dee Lacei
Luanne D Lacei
Luwanna Lacei
Lauanne Lawless
Luane Lawless
Luanna Lawless
Luanne Lawless
Luanne D Lawless
Luanne Warner
Luanne D Warner
age  51
East Wenatchee , WA
Spokane , WA
Newhall , CA
Wenatchee , WA
Orondo , WA
Wrangell , AK

Intellius
http://www.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&&PHPSESSID=523ab235e0f9c05afd8d413256e782ed
Luanne D Lawless
View Details
 51  E Wenatchee, WA
Wenatchee, WA
Whittier, CA
East Wenatchee, WA
Oroville, WA       
Luanne D Lawless
Gerry D Lawless
Kai A.r. Lawless
Gerald D Lawless 





and we should be surprised at this point?  I think they have more names than a phone book for the whole clan! 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 05:48:24 PM
I am wondering if gary d lawless, father of record for timothy john lawless, changed his name? LOL

I'm tracking down john son of richard birdette now, he is another weird one.  he is the brother of gerry/jerry/gerald married to luanne. 

why would the paper say he married luanne campbell, when she is nowhere under that name? 

I'll try to help figure that out too.  gee


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 05:50:08 PM
I am wondering if gary d lawless, father of record for timothy john lawless, changed his name? LOL

I'm tracking down john son of richard birdette now, he is another weird one.  he is the brother of gerry/jerry/gerald married to luanne. 

why would the paper say he married luanne campbell, when she is nowhere under that name? 

I'll try to help figure that out too.  gee

quoting myself but just had a thought...what if, gerry is gary? let me try to match dates.  maybe these two brothers have reason to leave? change names, their stepfather was donald lafayette johnson.  were they living over by clarkston/lewiston at any time? 

let me try to compare dates


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 06:04:36 PM
I am wondering if gary d lawless, father of record for timothy john lawless, changed his name? LOL

I'm tracking down john son of richard birdette now, he is another weird one.  he is the brother of gerry/jerry/gerald married to luanne. 

why would the paper say he married luanne campbell, when she is nowhere under that name? 

I'll try to help figure that out too.  gee

quoting myself but just had a thought...what if, gerry is gary? let me try to match dates.  maybe these two brothers have reason to leave? change names, their stepfather was donald lafayette johnson.  were they living over by clarkston/lewiston at any time? 

let me try to compare dates

Good thought - D for Donald?.  John really puzzled me as he was such an athlete in High School.  I would assume he would be on some team at BYU.  Nada.  And he vanishes. 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 06:23:37 PM
Does anyone have a DOB for our Gary D Lawless?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 29, 2009, 06:32:32 PM
I think it is 07/1932


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 06:41:36 PM
I think it is 07/1932
Thanks.  Wrong one.  I found a Gary David Lawless B:8 Jun 1965.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 29, 2009, 07:14:15 PM
I wonder  if there is a father and son Gary D. Lawless.  If so the dates you have would work.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 07:15:25 PM
I am wondering if gary d lawless, father of record for timothy john lawless, changed his name? LOL

I'm tracking down john son of richard birdette now, he is another weird one.  he is the brother of gerry/jerry/gerald married to luanne. 

why would the paper say he married luanne campbell, when she is nowhere under that name? 

I'll try to help figure that out too.  gee

quoting myself but just had a thought...what if, gerry is gary? let me try to match dates.  maybe these two brothers have reason to leave? change names, their stepfather was donald lafayette johnson.  were they living over by clarkston/lewiston at any time? 

let me try to compare dates

Good thought - D for Donald?.  John really puzzled me as he was such an athlete in High School.  I would assume he would be on some team at BYU.  Nada.  And he vanishes. 

well the older john mack lawless is almost as weird also... he does die in los angeles.

because he goes to cali, I am wondering if he could be related to the gary d lawless?



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 07:22:21 PM
I wonder  if there is a father and son Gary D. Lawless.  If so the dates you have would work.

yes there is a father and son Gary D lawless.  this is the main person I am looking for. Timothy John Lawless has a brother Gary Duane Lawless.  The father of record is Gary D Lawless.  He married their mother in Napa Ca.  I cannot for the life of me figure out where he comes from, nor where he goes.  He is listed as the father of the 3 boys.  he marries their mother after they are born, but they are named lawless.  they divorce one month after they marry.  I can then find the boys and the mother moving all over california and in and out of jail.  The mother also is arrested in Butte county for battery with one of her boys against Gary D Lawless, but I can't tell if it is the son or the father.  Also Gary D lawless is arrested there as well for failure to register as a sex offender, again no birthdate on the records.  However, in the court records it states they think he might be in the Alameda county jail in cali.  There is a gary lawless in the alameda jail around that time for a drug deal gone bad/murder.  He then beats the murder charge and should have been released this year.  but the age is off.  he is not the father.  but he might be the son with the date off the age at the time in the news.

So I have been trying to find this father Gary D lawless.  I am wondering if he is from the Lawless famlies up in Washington.  If so, he could be related to Clifford Lane Lawless.  This is my whole reason for looking into all the famliy genealogy in the first place LOL


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 07:27:09 PM
Does anyone have a DOB for our Gary D Lawless?

everything should be in the first posts I posted on here let me get them


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 07:29:41 PM
pages 1 & 2 of this thread has most all of the info on it for the father gary d lawless, his wife, and the 3 boys.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: klaasend on April 29, 2009, 07:30:39 PM
I’m just pulling this one out by itself(from above) so it is easy to reference

failing to register as a sex offender charge for gary d lawless

the PC 290 is failer to register as a sex offender.

butte county ca
PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, GARY
CRIMINAL
06/13/02
12/17/02

01 COM Misdemeanor (A)290(g)(1) PC FAILURE TO REGISTER

Plea: NC
Plea Date: 12/17/02
Disposition: 12/17/02
CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO
Sentence: 12/17/02
FORMAL PROBN 36 MTHS; JAIL 30 DAYS;
11590 H&S; SRCH

I'm just pulling this one out by itself(from above) so it is easy to reference

failing to register as a sex offender charge for gary d lawless

the PC 290 is failer to register as a sex offender.


butte county ca
PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, GARY
CRIMINAL
06/13/02
12/17/02

01   COM   Misdemeanor (A)290(g)(1)    PC   FAILURE TO REGISTER
      
   Plea:   NC
   Plea Date:   12/17/02
   Disposition:   12/17/02
      CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO
   Sentence:   12/17/02
      FORMAL PROBN 36 MTHS; JAIL 30 DAYS;
      11590 H&S; SRCH

doubledecker
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Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: klaasend on April 29, 2009, 07:30:57 PM
Brother of Timothy Lawless

Case Information Case Number: NCR79526 butte county, ca
Case Title: PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, JEFFREY CARL
Case Type: D.U.I.
Filing Date: 06/29/98
Disposition Date: 12/03/98
CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO & SENTENCED

Parties Name Type Attorney
LAWLESS, JEFFREY CARL DEFENDANT VANDERVOORT, J JOSEPH
Charges Count Filing Document Degree Charge
00 CIT ASF ADMIN SCREENING FEE

Plea:
Plea Date:
Disposition:

Sentence:

00 CIT Misdemeanor (A) 1202.4 PC RESTITUTION FINE

Plea:
Plea Date:
Disposition:

Sentence:

00 Misdemeanor (A) 1214.1(a) PC CIVIL ASSESSMENTS

Plea:
Plea Date:
Disposition:

Sentence:

01 CIT Misdemeanor (C) 23152(a) CVC DRIVING UNDER INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL/DRUGS

Plea: NG
Plea Date: 08/04/98
Disposition: 12/03/98
CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO
Sentence: 12/03/98
SUMMARY PROBN 36 MO;48 HRS BCJ-REPORT
1-8-99 8PM;$1248+$100+$24+$35 IN MONTHLY
PMTS OF $75;LEVEL I DUI SCHOOL
02 CIT Infraction (T) 16028)(a) CVC NO INSURANCE

Plea: NG
Plea Date: 08/04/98
Disposition: 12/03/98
DISMISSED
Sentence:

03 CIT Infraction (T) 21657 CVC ONE-WAY TRAFFIC AND OFF-CENTER LANES

Plea: NG
Plea Date: 08/04/98
Disposition: 12/03/98
DISMISSED
Sentence:

04 CIT Infraction (T) 14601.1(a) CVC DRIVING WHILE SUSPENDED OR REVOKED

Plea: NG
Plea Date: 08/04/98
Disposition: 12/03/98
DISMISSED
Sentence:

Actions Date Action Description
03/07/00 ABST TO DMV - FTP (DE3) LICENSE SUSPENDED
02/14/00 NTC: CIVIL ASSESSMENT ADDED-NO ADDRESS
$1433
01/13/00 NTC: TICKLER: 10-DAY NOTICE
$750 APRIL-JAN’00 PMTS
01/06/00 NTC: TICKLER: 10-DAY NOTICE
$750 APRIL-JAN’00 PMTS
01/26/99 ABST TO DMV - CONVICTION (DE1)
09/08/98 MOTION TO WITHDRAW AS ATTORNEY OF RECORD
08/04/98 WAIVER OF DEFT’S PERSONAL PRESENCE 977 PC
08/04/98 STIPULATION FOR COMMISSIONER TO SIT AS
JUDGE PRO TEM
06/29/98 CITATION FILED BY CPD 98-4576 OFFICER 1295
06/29/98 O/R AGREEMENT SIGNED BY DEFT

Events Date Time Event Description Dept Code Department/Judge
12/03/98 13:30 DISPOSITION SETTING

Disposition Date: 12/03/98
PLED NOLO; WAIVED TIME, SENTENCED CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
10/22/98 13:00 DISPOSITION/SETTING
DEFT ORDERED PERSONALLY PRESENT

Disposition Date: 10/22/98
CONT FOR DISPO SET CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
09/28/98 08:00 JURY TRIAL - MUNI CT CRIM/TRAFFIC

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
VACATED C11 HON WILLIAM O SCOTT; COMMISSIONER
09/24/98 13:00 TRIAL READINESS
AND MOTION TO W/DRAW AS ATTY OF RECORD
JT SET FOR 9-28-98

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
TRIAL DATE VACATED; CONT FOR SETTING CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
09/24/98 00:00 MTN: TO WITHDRAW AS ATTORNEY OF RECORD

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
WITHDRAWN CSM HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
08/27/98 10:00 PRETRIAL CONFERENCE

Disposition Date: 08/27/98
TRIAL DATE SET C06 HON DARRELL STEVENS; JUDGE
08/04/98 08:30 ARRAIGNMENT

Disposition Date: 08/04/98
PLED NOT GLTY BY ATTY;T/W;SET FOR P/T

Case Information Case Number:   NCR79526 butte county, ca
Case Title:   PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, JEFFREY CARL
Case Type:   D.U.I.
Filing Date:   06/29/98
Disposition Date:   12/03/98
   CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO & SENTENCED
 
Parties Name   Type   Attorney
LAWLESS, JEFFREY CARL    DEFENDANT    VANDERVOORT, J JOSEPH
   Charges    Count   Filing Document   Degree   Charge   
   00   CIT      ASF       ADMIN SCREENING FEE   
                  
      Plea:            
      Plea Date:            
      Disposition:            
                  
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
   00   CIT   Misdemeanor (A)   1202.4    PC   RESTITUTION FINE   
                  
      Plea:            
      Plea Date:            
      Disposition:            
                  
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
   00      Misdemeanor (A)   1214.1(a)    PC   CIVIL ASSESSMENTS   
                  
      Plea:            
      Plea Date:            
      Disposition:            
                  
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
   01   CIT   Misdemeanor (C)   23152(a)    CVC   DRIVING UNDER INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL/DRUGS   
                  
      Plea:   NG         
      Plea Date:   08/04/98         
      Disposition:   12/03/98         
         CONVICTED ON PLEA OF NOLO          
      Sentence:   12/03/98         
         SUMMARY PROBN 36 MO;48 HRS BCJ-REPORT         
         1-8-99 8PM;$1248+$100+$24+$35 IN MONTHLY         
         PMTS OF $75;LEVEL I DUI SCHOOL         
   02   CIT   Infraction (T)   16028)(a)    CVC   NO INSURANCE   
                  
      Plea:   NG         
      Plea Date:   08/04/98         
      Disposition:   12/03/98         
         DISMISSED          
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
   03   CIT   Infraction (T)   21657    CVC   ONE-WAY TRAFFIC AND OFF-CENTER LANES   
                  
      Plea:   NG         
      Plea Date:   08/04/98         
      Disposition:   12/03/98         
         DISMISSED          
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
   04   CIT   Infraction (T)   14601.1(a)    CVC   DRIVING WHILE SUSPENDED OR REVOKED   
                  
      Plea:   NG         
      Plea Date:   08/04/98         
      Disposition:   12/03/98         
         DISMISSED          
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
 
Actions Date   Action Description
03/07/00   ABST TO DMV - FTP (DE3) LICENSE SUSPENDED
02/14/00   NTC: CIVIL ASSESSMENT ADDED-NO ADDRESS
  $1433
01/13/00   NTC: TICKLER: 10-DAY NOTICE
  $750 APRIL-JAN'00 PMTS
01/06/00   NTC: TICKLER: 10-DAY NOTICE
  $750 APRIL-JAN'00 PMTS
01/26/99   ABST TO DMV - CONVICTION (DE1)
09/08/98   MOTION TO WITHDRAW AS ATTORNEY OF RECORD
08/04/98   WAIVER OF DEFT'S PERSONAL PRESENCE 977 PC
08/04/98   STIPULATION FOR COMMISSIONER TO SIT AS
  JUDGE PRO TEM
06/29/98   CITATION FILED BY CPD 98-4576 OFFICER 1295
06/29/98   O/R AGREEMENT SIGNED BY DEFT
 
Events Date   Time   Event Description   Dept Code   Department/Judge
12/03/98   13:30   DISPOSITION SETTING

Disposition Date: 12/03/98
PLED NOLO; WAIVED TIME, SENTENCED   CSM   HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
10/22/98   13:00   DISPOSITION/SETTING
  DEFT ORDERED PERSONALLY PRESENT

Disposition Date: 10/22/98
CONT FOR DISPO SET   CSM   HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
09/28/98   08:00   JURY TRIAL - MUNI CT CRIM/TRAFFIC

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
VACATED   C11   HON WILLIAM O SCOTT; COMMISSIONER
09/24/98   13:00   TRIAL READINESS
  AND MOTION TO W/DRAW AS ATTY OF RECORD
  JT SET FOR 9-28-98

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
TRIAL DATE VACATED; CONT FOR SETTING   CSM   HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
09/24/98   00:00   MTN: TO WITHDRAW AS ATTORNEY OF RECORD

Disposition Date: 09/24/98
WITHDRAWN   CSM   HON. STEVEN R MCNELIS, ASSIGNED JUDGE
08/27/98   10:00   PRETRIAL CONFERENCE

Disposition Date: 08/27/98
TRIAL DATE SET   C06   HON DARRELL STEVENS; JUDGE
08/04/98   08:30   ARRAIGNMENT

Disposition Date: 08/04/98
PLED NOT GLTY BY ATTY;T/W;SET FOR P/T


doubledecker
Submitted on 2009/04/27 at 4:12pm
Case Information Case Number: NT016910 butte county, ca
Case Title: PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, JEFFREY
Case Type: REGISTRATION
Filing Date: 09/30/97
Disposition Date: 07/24/98
BAIL PAID/FORFEIT AFTER FTA - CONV

Parties Name Type Attorney
LAWLESS, JEFFREY DEFENDANT
Charges Count Filing Document Degree Charge
01 CIT Infraction (T) 4000(a) CVC REGISTRATION REQUIRED

Plea:
Plea Date:
Disposition: 07/24/98
BAIL PAID/FORFEITED (CONVICTION)
Sentence:

02 CIT Infraction (T) 26708(a) CVC RESTRICTED VIEW - SIGN, STICKERS, ETC.

Plea:
Plea Date:
Disposition: 07/24/98
BAIL PAID/FORFEITED (CONVICTION)
Sentence:

Actions Date Action Description
06/29/98 RELEASE TO DMV - FTA (DE2)
PIF GCSV/ALHAMBRA 5-28-98 CK
04/01/98 ABST TO DMV - FTA (DE5) LICENSE HOLD

Events Date Time Event Description Dept Code Department/Judge
10/29/97 08:00 TRAFFIC ARRAIGNMENT - APPEAR/POST BAIL
BAIL + FTA AMT = $389 AS OF 11/26/97

Disposition Date: 03/26/98
REFERRED TO GC SERVICES

Case Information Case Number:   NT016910  butte county, ca
Case Title:   PEOPLE vs. LAWLESS, JEFFREY
Case Type:   REGISTRATION
Filing Date:   09/30/97
Disposition Date:   07/24/98
   BAIL PAID/FORFEIT AFTER FTA - CONV
 
Parties Name   Type   Attorney
LAWLESS, JEFFREY    DEFENDANT    
   Charges    Count   Filing Document   Degree   Charge   
   01   CIT   Infraction (T)   4000(a)    CVC   REGISTRATION REQUIRED   
                  
      Plea:            
      Plea Date:            
      Disposition:   07/24/98         
         BAIL PAID/FORFEITED (CONVICTION)          
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
   02   CIT   Infraction (T)   26708(a)    CVC   RESTRICTED VIEW - SIGN, STICKERS, ETC.   
                  
      Plea:            
      Plea Date:            
      Disposition:   07/24/98         
         BAIL PAID/FORFEITED (CONVICTION)          
      Sentence:            
                  
                  
                  
 
Actions Date   Action Description
06/29/98   RELEASE TO DMV - FTA (DE2)
  PIF GCSV/ALHAMBRA 5-28-98 CK
04/01/98   ABST TO DMV - FTA (DE5) LICENSE HOLD
 
Events Date   Time   Event Description   Dept Code   Department/Judge
10/29/97   08:00   TRAFFIC ARRAIGNMENT - APPEAR/POST BAIL
  BAIL + FTA AMT = $389 AS OF 11/26/97

Disposition Date: 03/26/98
REFERRED TO GC SERVICES
 



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: klaasend on April 29, 2009, 07:31:21 PM
Posted by doubledecker at blinkoncrime.com
this is the mother and the two brothers, or the mother, one brother jeffrey Carl Lawless/ Gomes and the father.

father and one brother are both named gary d lawless.

mother is marylin, she would be over 70 yrs old now. seems must be some kind of family dispute. I know they are on a lot of land deeds back and forth, not sure what they were doing, but also a lot of tax liens.

I have many court docs for deeds, liens, child support, and arrests for traffic, dui’s, drugs, warrants and top of warrants etc. and of course the one for gary d lawless(brother or father) for failing to register as a sex offender in 2002.

CASE NUMBER:
FL35509
CASE TITLE:
LAWLESS VS. GOMES
CASE DESCRIPTION:
***DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
FILING DATE:
03/17/1993
DISPOSITION DESCRIPTION:
DISMISSED
DISPOSITION DATE:
04/12/1993

PARTIES
PARTY NAME RELATIONSHIP ATTORNEY NAME

LAWLESS, GARY D.
PLAINTIFF PRO PER

GOMES, JEFF C.
DEFENDANT N/A

GOMES, MARILYN E.
DEFENDANT N/A

EVENTS
DATE TIME DESCRIPTION DISPOSITION

04/05/1993 1:45PM OSC RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TRO CONT TO 04/12/93 BY COURT

04/12/1993 1:45PM OSC RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TRO GRANTED

ACTIONS
DATE DESCRIPTION

03/17/1993 OSC & TRO RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE

03/29/1993 PROOF OF SERVICE

03/29/1993 PROOF OF SERVICE TO JEFF C. GOMES

this is the mother and the two brothers, or the mother, one brother jeffrey Carl Lawless/ Gomes and the father.

father and one brother are both named gary d lawless. 

mother is marylin, she would be over 70 yrs old now.  seems must be some kind of family dispute.  I know they are on a lot of land deeds back and forth, not sure what they were doing, but also a lot of tax liens. 

I have many court docs for deeds, liens, child support, and arrests for traffic, dui's, drugs, warrants and top of warrants etc.  and of course the one for gary d lawless(brother or father) for failing to register as a sex offender in 2002. 

CASE NUMBER:   
FL35509
CASE TITLE:   
LAWLESS  VS.  GOMES
CASE DESCRIPTION:   
***DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
FILING DATE:   
03/17/1993
DISPOSITION DESCRIPTION:   
DISMISSED
DISPOSITION DATE:   
04/12/1993

PARTIES
PARTY NAME   RELATIONSHIP   ATTORNEY NAME
 

LAWLESS, GARY D.
PLAINTIFF    PRO PER
 

GOMES, JEFF C.
DEFENDANT    N/A
 

GOMES, MARILYN E.
DEFENDANT    N/A
 


EVENTS
DATE   TIME   DESCRIPTION   DISPOSITION
 

04/05/1993    1:45PM    OSC RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TRO    CONT TO 04/12/93 BY COURT
 

04/12/1993    1:45PM    OSC RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TRO    GRANTED
 


ACTIONS
DATE   DESCRIPTION
 

03/17/1993    OSC & TRO RE: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
 

03/29/1993    PROOF OF SERVICE
 

03/29/1993    PROOF OF SERVICE TO JEFF C. GOMES

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Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 07:31:31 PM
I do have more court docs & deeds for the family but nothing that is really going to tie anything to finding the FATHER gary d lawless.




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 07:31:41 PM
I am wondering if gary d lawless, father of record for timothy john lawless, changed his name? LOL

I'm tracking down john son of richard birdette now, he is another weird one.  he is the brother of gerry/jerry/gerald married to luanne. 

why would the paper say he married luanne campbell, when she is nowhere under that name? 

I'll try to help figure that out too.  gee

quoting myself but just had a thought...what if, gerry is gary? let me try to match dates.  maybe these two brothers have reason to leave? change names, their stepfather was donald lafayette johnson.  were they living over by clarkston/lewiston at any time? 

let me try to compare dates

Good thought - D for Donald?.  John really puzzled me as he was such an athlete in High School.  I would assume he would be on some team at BYU.  Nada.  And he vanishes. 

well the older john mack lawless is almost as weird also... he does die in los angeles.

because he goes to cali, I am wondering if he could be related to the gary d lawless?



Ancestry has a 1940 census subsitute up.  When you type in John Lawless and Location California, on about the third page is a John M Lawless living with a Helen A Lawless.  I can not see what city or the fiull details as I am not a member

http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/grouplist.aspx?group=1940census&cj=1&o_xid=0000865524&o_lid=0000865524


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: klaasend on April 29, 2009, 07:32:19 PM
Doubledecker - I bumped a few of those up.  What I did is "quoted" them and posted and it simply moved/copied them to this page.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on April 29, 2009, 07:37:34 PM
I wonder  if there is a father and son Gary D. Lawless.  If so the dates you have would work.

yes there is a father and son Gary D lawless.  this is the main person I am looking for. Timothy John Lawless has a brother Gary Duane Lawless.  The father of record is Gary D Lawless.  He married their mother in Napa Ca.  I cannot for the life of me figure out where he comes from, nor where he goes.  He is listed as the father of the 3 boys.  he marries their mother after they are born, but they are named lawless.  they divorce one month after they marry.  I can then find the boys and the mother moving all over california and in and out of jail.  The mother also is arrested in Butte county for battery with one of her boys against Gary D Lawless, but I can't tell if it is the son or the father.  Also Gary D lawless is arrested there as well for failure to register as a sex offender, again no birthdate on the records.  However, in the court records it states they think he might be in the Alameda county jail in cali.  There is a gary lawless in the alameda jail around that time for a drug deal gone bad/murder.  He then beats the murder charge and should have been released this year.  but the age is off.  he is not the father.  but he might be the son with the date off the age at the time in the news.

So I have been trying to find this father Gary D lawless.  I am wondering if he is from the Lawless famlies up in Washington.  If so, he could be related to Clifford Lane Lawless.  This is my whole reason for looking into all the famliy genealogy in the first place LOL

There is no death record for the son Gary D lawless? Is there a birth cert? Are their 2 ssi numbers on for each GDL? I am wondering if they made him up or he died as an infant? Do you think that is possible? 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: SunnyinTX on April 29, 2009, 07:40:14 PM
Although I haven't posted much in this case, I read and am so impressed with the research that has been done.  There are so many crazies in this case.....I cringe to even think how many others have been abused and possibly murdered by this group.....when the autopsy report was sealed my mind went crazy with wonder what this child might have gone through.  Thank goodness for all of you that can stick here...


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 07:43:07 PM
Doubledecker - I bumped a few of those up.  What I did is "quoted" them and posted and it simply moved/copied them to this page.

thanks


here are the boys
Name: Timothy J Lawless
Birth Date: 11 Dec 1964
Gender: Male
Mother's Maiden Name: Tieken
Birth County: Glenn




brotherName: Gary D Lawless
Birth Date: 7 Apr 1966
Gender: Male
Mother's Maiden Name: Tieken
Birth County: Napa


brotherName: Jeffrey C Lawless
Birth Date: 21 Nov 1967
Gender: Male
Mother's Maiden Name: Tieken
Birth County: Napa

mother and father of timothy john lawless

Name: Marylin E Tieken
Age: 30
Est. Birth: abt 1938
Spouse Name: Gary D Lawless
Spouse Age: 35
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1933
Date: 6 Jun 1968
Location: Napa

Name: Marylin E Tieken
Age: 36
Est. Birth: abt 1937
Spouse Name: Manuel Gomes
Spouse Age: 44
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1929
Date: 30 Oct 1973
Location: Solano



mothers birth and mother's maiden name

Name: Marylin Elizabeth Tieken
Birth Date: 20 Mar 1937
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Forman
Birth County: Napa

caifornia divorce
Name: Marylin E Ticken
Spouse Name: Gary D Lawless
Location: Napa
Date: Jul 1968



Mother is also married to Gary D Lawless using the last name of SHORT, on the very same day she married him under the last name if Tieken
I can't find a divorce with her under the name of short

Name: Gary D Lawless
Age: 35
Est. Birth: abt 1933
Spouse Name: Marylin E Short
Spouse Age: 30
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1938
Date: 6 Jun 1968
Location: Napa


Mother then marries Manuel Gomes
Name: Marylin E Tieken
Age: 36
Est. Birth: abt 1937
Spouse Name: Manuel Gomes
Spouse Age: 44
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1929
Date: 30 Oct 1973
Location: Solano

I found no divorce for mother and manuel gomes
yet.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on April 29, 2009, 07:46:21 PM
Who has this many people in their family? Sheesh! I don't know how you are all keeping track. I am lost but know I will be found soon. I can't wait to see the report!

Oh BTW, you should send these people a bill! Yikes you have worked hard on this! 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 07:46:43 PM
I wonder  if there is a father and son Gary D. Lawless.  If so the dates you have would work.

yes there is a father and son Gary D lawless.  this is the main person I am looking for. Timothy John Lawless has a brother Gary Duane Lawless.  The father of record is Gary D Lawless.  He married their mother in Napa Ca.  I cannot for the life of me figure out where he comes from, nor where he goes.  He is listed as the father of the 3 boys.  he marries their mother after they are born, but they are named lawless.  they divorce one month after they marry.  I can then find the boys and the mother moving all over california and in and out of jail.  The mother also is arrested in Butte county for battery with one of her boys against Gary D Lawless, but I can't tell if it is the son or the father.  Also Gary D lawless is arrested there as well for failure to register as a sex offender, again no birthdate on the records.  However, in the court records it states they think he might be in the Alameda county jail in cali.  There is a gary lawless in the alameda jail around that time for a drug deal gone bad/murder.  He then beats the murder charge and should have been released this year.  but the age is off.  he is not the father.  but he might be the son with the date off the age at the time in the news.

So I have been trying to find this father Gary D lawless.  I am wondering if he is from the Lawless famlies up in Washington.  If so, he could be related to Clifford Lane Lawless.  This is my whole reason for looking into all the famliy genealogy in the first place LOL

There is no death record for the son Gary D lawless? Is there a birth cert? Are their 2 ssi numbers on for each GDL? I am wondering if they made him up or he died as an infant? Do you think that is possible? 


see my post I just put above for the 3 boys. 

on the court records for butte county they don't put the birthdates on them.  I can't tell who it is...but someone found the news article for the arrest of a gary d lawless in oakland, alameda county... and the gary d lawless doc in butte county for the sex offender says he might be in alameda jail, and the one in the alameda jail said he is a sex offender. 

he also is not on megans.  yet he had the warrant in butte county for failing to register, perhaps he was in jail all that time in alameda is why he is not on megans


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 07:54:30 PM
btw for those who are not familar with this family, this is the timothy john lawless in the sacramento jail for all the sex charges.  Gary is his brother who is also a sex offender.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 07:56:17 PM
Northern Rose,

thanks for the substitute 40 census links, I am going through them now


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 08:00:09 PM
btw for those who are not familar with this family, this is the timothy john lawless in the sacramento jail for all the sex charges.  Gary is his brother who is also a sex offender.

oh forgot to say-all the boys and the mother in this family also use the last name GOMES, they switch back and forth at random


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 08:05:54 PM
Northern Rose,

thanks for the substitute 40 census links, I am going through them now
::MonkeyDance:: HI DD ...
I see your working your Monkey butt off again. I found a site for you too. I was poking around it earlier. Its an OK site, but it does make it easy if your looking up criminal backgrounds using " a last name" will search the entire US and show all that come up below with Name, D.O.B and what court they were in.

You may already have it, not sure, But for all that Wish to use it - Go for it.
http://www.criminalsearches.com/default.aspx


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 08:14:41 PM
cool! thanks Deenie for the criminal link.  Let me go try it out ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 08:15:35 PM
I wonder  if there is a father and son Gary D. Lawless.  If so the dates you have would work.

yes there is a father and son Gary D lawless.  this is the main person I am looking for. Timothy John Lawless has a brother Gary Duane Lawless.  The father of record is Gary D Lawless.  He married their mother in Napa Ca.  I cannot for the life of me figure out where he comes from, nor where he goes.  He is listed as the father of the 3 boys.  he marries their mother after they are born, but they are named lawless.  they divorce one month after they marry.  I can then find the boys and the mother moving all over california and in and out of jail.  The mother also is arrested in Butte county for battery with one of her boys against Gary D Lawless, but I can't tell if it is the son or the father.  Also Gary D lawless is arrested there as well for failure to register as a sex offender, again no birthdate on the records.  However, in the court records it states they think he might be in the Alameda county jail in cali.  There is a gary lawless in the alameda jail around that time for a drug deal gone bad/murder.  He then beats the murder charge and should have been released this year.  but the age is off.  he is not the father.  but he might be the son with the date off the age at the time in the news.

So I have been trying to find this father Gary D lawless.  I am wondering if he is from the Lawless famlies up in Washington.  If so, he could be related to Clifford Lane Lawless.  This is my whole reason for looking into all the famliy genealogy in the first place LOL

There is no death record for the son Gary D lawless? Is there a birth cert? Are their 2 ssi numbers on for each GDL? I am wondering if they made him up or he died as an infant? Do you think that is possible? 


see my post I just put above for the 3 boys. 

on the court records for butte county they don't put the birthdates on them.  I can't tell who it is...but someone found the news article for the arrest of a gary d lawless in oakland, alameda county... and the gary d lawless doc in butte county for the sex offender says he might be in alameda jail, and the one in the alameda jail said he is a sex offender. 

he also is not on megans.  yet he had the warrant in butte county for failing to register, perhaps he was in jail all that time in alameda is why he is not on megans

Also the news article from Okland CA of a Gary Lawless , assault, drug charges and previous molestation.  At least on witness were shot before they could testify.  It is early on in this thread.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 08:16:57 PM
Who has this many people in their family? Sheesh! I don't know how you are all keeping track. I am lost but know I will be found soon. I can't wait to see the report!

Oh BTW, you should send these people a bill! Yikes you have worked hard on this! 
Genealogy services are us!  LOL


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 08:17:07 PM
I think it is 07/1932

which one is this?  do you know?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 08:24:15 PM
WRONG GUY - REMOVED


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 08:29:37 PM
http://www.ussearch.com

this is a good site too, shows alias names ... hmmm.
How old is the Lester Lawless you were looking for?
And was that his First name " Lester" or Middle ?



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 08:32:12 PM
Gary D. Lawless
http://preview.ussearch.com/preview/ala/newsearch?
Gary D Lawless
Gary Gomes
Gary Lawless
Garye Lawless
Garye D Lawless
   43
Address Available    
Manton, CA
Corning , CA
Gerber , CA
Borden , IN
Relative: Timothy J Lawless


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 08:33:44 PM
Gary D. Lawless
http://preview.ussearch.com/preview/ala/newsearch?
Gary D Lawless
76
Address Available    Phone Available    
Wichita , KS
Ponca City , OK
Belle Plaine , KS
Relative:   Gary D Lawless


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 08:39:03 PM
If you go to the site of http://www.criminalsearches.com

Advanced search you can pick a " Charge" say Homicide and then search the persons name.
I tried using the Sex offense advanced search with names that I have found that have been convicted ..
BUT I think that this site is Only allowed to "search" State records that allow this site to tag names.. I think some of the States do not allow the records to come up. That's why I say this site is " Ok". It does pull all records.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 08:39:48 PM
If you go to the site of http://www.criminalsearches.com

Advanced search you can pick a " Charge" say Homicide and then search the persons name.
I tried using the Sex offense advanced search with names that I have found that have been convicted ..
BUT I think that this site is Only allowed to "search" State records that allow this site to tag names.. I think some of the States do not allow the records to come up. That's why I say this site is " Ok". It does pull all records.
My Bad- It Does NOT pull all records.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 08:39:52 PM
Doubledecker I found a weird one.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=_JANAAAAIBAJ&sjid=kmMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3770,21136&dq=lawless+brewster

Attend Race
Attending the Mattawa Desert 100 Motor bike races this past weekend were Rich Tomason and his two sons, Bill Lawless and Pat Kegley.

I do not recall in our searching connecting Thomason with Kegley and Lawless.  Which branch does this one belong to?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 08:40:09 PM
gee these people are something else


washington state dept of corrections

washington
Brynn Cole Lawless Date of Birth: 03/14/1983  
AKAs: Height: 6'3"
Weight: 202 LBS
Hair Color: GRAY
Eye Color: BROWN
Race: WHITE
Gender: Male

V CRIMINAL OFFENSE 1
V Violent
Case Number: 051004909
Offense Type: Assault
Offense Code: 9A36031
Offense Description: ASSAULT 3
Conviction Place: CHELAN
Date Reported:

washington
Full Name: Luanne Dee Lawless Date of Birth: 08/15/1957  
AKAs: Height: 5'8"
Weight: 110 LBS
Hair Color: BROWN
Eye Color: BROWN
Race: WHITE
Gender: Female

T CRIMINAL OFFENSE 1
T Theft/Robbery

Case Number: 962465
Offense Type: Fraud
Offense Code:
Offense Description: FORGERY FORGERY
Date Reported:

T CRIMINAL OFFENSE 2
Offense Date:
Case Number: 962465
Offense Type: Fraud
Offense Code:
Offense Description: OTHER FELONY FORGERY
Date Reported:


who is this?

Full Name: Dick Lawless Date of Birth: 08/05/1948  
AKAs: Height: 5'11"
Weight: 150 LBS
Hair Color: BROWN
Eye Color: HAZEL
Race: WHITE
Gender: Male

S CRIMINAL OFFENSE 1
Offense Date:
S Sex Related
Case Number: 928793
Offense Type: Rape
Offense Code:
Offense Description: RAPE OF CHILD 1 RAPE OF CHILD 1
Date Reported:

S CRIMINAL OFFENSE 2
Offense Date:
Case Number: 928793
Offense Type: Rape
Offense Code:
Offense Description: RAPE OF CHILD 1 INDECENT LIBERTIES
Date Reported:

S CRIMINAL OFFENSE 3
Offense Date:
Case Number: 928793
Offense Type: Rape
Offense Code:
Offense Description: INDECENT LIBERTIES RAPE OF CHILD 1
Date Reported:

O CRIMINAL OFFENSE 4
Offense Date:
Case Number: 928793
Offense Type: Traffic/Other
Offense Code:
Offense Description: INDECENT LIBERTIES INDECENT LIBERTIES
Date Reported:


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 29, 2009, 08:46:14 PM
Oklahoma cancelled business registrations:

3500673354 GARY D. LAWLESS MINISTRIES, L.L.C. 4245050001 Cancelled 7/1/2005


hmmm can you get any more info on this person... is there a filing of DBA or something with his birthdate or an address we can punch in?

GOOD MORNING AGAIN FROM THE EAST COAST!  We're getting closer, monkeys, much, much, closer:


LAWLESS, GARY D
(DOB: 07/1932)
 (Age: 76) 

2100 N UNION ST APT
PONCA CITY, OK 74601-1534
KAY COUNTY
(05/1995-01/1996)

I'll hunt some more. . .
 


catching up here,

the one above is the right age,
I have the right gary d lawless as born about 1933 on the marriage record of him married to marylin Elizabeth Tieken and also last name Short, same marriage date.

this is the mother of timothy john, Gary Duane, and Jeffrey Carl (all Lawless on birth record), aka of all is Gomes, the last name of their step father Manuel Gomes who their mother married 5 yrs later. 

let me take the info you have above for gary d lawless born 7/1932 and see what else I can find, to figure out if this guy you have is the same one as Timothy's father of record. 


I got that birthdate from this quote.  I brought it forward so you can see.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 08:48:12 PM
Gary D. Lawless
http://preview.ussearch.com/preview/ala/newsearch?
Gary D Lawless
Gary Gomes
Gary Lawless
Garye Lawless
Garye D Lawless
   43
Address Available    
Manton, CA
Corning , CA
Gerber , CA
Borden , IN
Relative: Timothy J Lawless

I have a lot of addresses for this family.  they are all over northern cali in yuba county, sacramento county, glenn county, napa, tehema county, shasta county, butte county.  the last I find them they seem to be up in the redbluff/manton/redding area.  but timothy is in sacramento area now in jail.

the father is just nowhere to be found.  ugh  but he is who is needed to be found to see if he is related to the CLL lawless family.



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 09:03:53 PM
Gary D. Lawless
http://preview.ussearch.com/preview/ala/newsearch?
Gary D Lawless
76
Address Available    Phone Available    
Wichita , KS
Ponca City , OK
Belle Plaine , KS
Relative:   Gary D Lawless

I had found this one also.  he is the right age. 
oh this is the one that was born 07/1932
okay now that I am not so tired LOL, I see more going on here. LOL


okay so what is going on here.  we have a gary d lawless the right age, but not sure it is him for sure.  we have landon lane lawless there too.  so is this gary d lawless the father of  timothy, gary, and jeffrey in cali?

LAWLESS, GARY D 76
07/1932

2100 N UNION ST APT
PONCA CITY, OK 74601-1534
KAY COUNTY
(05/1995-01/1996)



Name: LAWLESS, GARY D
Address: 821 APACHE DR
WICHITA, KS 67207-2119
SEDGWICK COUNTY
Phone: 316-Edit-No phone numbers please
Date of Birth: 07/1932


Name: LAWLESS, GARY D
Address: 5028-2 E FUNSTON ST APT 2
WICHITA, KS 67218-4361
SEDGWICK COUNTY
Phone: 316-Edit-No phone numbers please
Date of Birth: 07/1932


Name: LAWLESS, GARY D
Address: 2100 N UNION ST APT
PONCA CITY, OK 74601-1534
KAY COUNTY
Date of Birth: 07/1932


Name: LAWLESS, GARY D
Address: RR 2 BOX 195
BELLE PLAINE, KS 67013
SUMNER COUNTY
Date of Birth: 07/1932


LAWLESS, GARY D

PONCA CITY, OK

Possible Relatives:

LAW, KYLE ANDREW (Age 28)




LAWLESS, GARY D
TULSA, OK



Name: Gary D Lawless
Address: 2100 N Union St
City: Ponca City
State: Oklahoma
Zip Code: 74601-1534
Phone Number: 405-Edit-No phone numbers please
Residence Years: 1997




and here is landon lane
LANE LAWLESS INCORPORATOR
Domestic For Profit Business Corporation

Registered Agent - LAWLESS LANE
5010 S 167TH E AVE  
TULSA, OK 74134
Name: LAWLESS, LANDON L (LANE)  
Address: 5010 S 167TH EAST AVE
TULSA, OK 74134-7185
TULSA COUNTY
Date of Birth: 05/1971


Oklahoma District Courts, OK

 
Full Name:  Landon Lane Lawless Date of Birth:  05/25/1971  
AKAs:  Height:   
Weight:   
Hair Color:   
Eye Color:   
Race:   
Gender:  Unspecified
 

ADDRESSES  
     
Possible Previous Address 1:  RR 1 , COWETA, WAGONER COUNTY, OK 74429 
Possible Previous Address 2:  S 273RD EAST AVE, COWETA, WAGONER COUNTY, OK 74429 
Possible Previous Address 3:  FAIRWAY MEADOWS DR, GARLAND, DALLAS COUNTY, TX 75044 
     


O CRIMINAL OFFENSE 1 
O Traffic/Other
 
Case Number: 061-TR 0002709
Offense Type: Traffic/Other
Offense Code: 
Offense Description: 80 IN 70, SPEEDING
Conviction Place: PITTSBURG
Date Reported: 07/19/2000
 
O CRIMINAL OFFENSE 2 
Offense Date:   
Case Number: 046-TR 0104507
Offense Type: Traffic/Other
Offense Code: 
Offense Description: SPEEDING
Date Reported: 10/23/2001
 
O CRIMINAL OFFENSE 3 
Offense Date:   
Case Number: 046-TR 0104507
Offense Type: Traffic/Other
Offense Code: 
Offense Description: SPEEDING
Conviction Place: MCINTOSH
Date Reported: 10/23/2001
Disposition: GUILTY PLEA



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 09:04:05 PM
add another grandchild for Bette Johnson

April 8, 1976 article







Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 09:04:31 PM
what is it with all the Alias Names ..  ::MonkeyWaa::

http://preview.ussearch.com/preview/ala/newsearch?adID=10002101&searchtab=people&searchFName=&searchMName=&searchLName=Lawlers&searchCity=&searchState=&searchApproxAge=&x=70&y=28

Melissa Lawless " 90"

Melissa Lawlers
Melissa Huckaby
Melissa C Huckaby
Melissa Lawless
Melissa C Lawless
Melissa Chantel Lawless
90
Tracy , CA
Cypress , CA
Anaheim , CA
La Habra , CA
--
http://preview.ussearch.com/preview/ala/newsearch?adID=10002101&searchtab=people&searchFName=arthur&searchMName=d&searchLName=harris&searchCity=&searchState=CA&searchApproxAge=&x=62&y=22
Arthur Dewayne Harris
Pastor of Alisal Baptist - Connie's Brother

Arthur D Harris
Dewayne Harris
Dewayne A Harris
66
Address Available    Phone Available    Salinas , CA
Dewayne Harris
Diana L Harris
Michael Harris


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 09:08:24 PM
Doubledecker I found a weird one.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=_JANAAAAIBAJ&sjid=kmMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3770,21136&dq=lawless+brewster

Attend Race
Attending the Mattawa Desert 100 Motor bike races this past weekend were Rich Tomason and his two sons, Bill Lawless and Pat Kegley.

I do not recall in our searching connecting Thomason with Kegley and Lawless.  Which branch does this one belong to?

I have not seen those before


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 09:10:38 PM
whats with all the aliases you ask?
well for one thing these data bases will put every single spelling anyone ever used, or a typo on a record or whatever, so some are just innocently changed.
On the other hand, we have a bunch of criminal in this family, drugs, sex offenders, fraud, theft, assaults, etc.  These are people who need to change their names and hide. LOL  And I think that is exactly what they are doing.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 09:10:43 PM
1983 article states Jerry and Luann Lawless were visiting Don and Betty Johnson from Wenatchee.  Have we checked the Wenatchee records for arrests?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 09:16:37 PM
 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyEek:: Yet another lawless Lawless

I went and searched for the heck of it - Salinas. Ca - the name Harris
Pastor A.A. Harris is Connie's Father (dead), and Pastor A.D. Harris is Connie's Brother at Alisal Baptist
Does not mean that is the end of the " brothers, cousins ..
Ok -
Salina's Ca - Harris no first name searched -
http://www.criminalsearches.com/details.aspx?id=w1x00xC9&vw=criminal&1=FwNmuRTQjqq%2b612yB29YbHZ8XvDeUWaF60wff5bY4po%3d&input=name

Kenneth Wayne Harris 
Date of Birth:      11/21/1949 - so he is 60 at present
AKAs:     Ken Way E Harris
Height:     5'6"
Weight:     158 LBS
Hair Color:     GRAY
Eye Color:     BROWN
Race:     WHITE
Gender:     Male
Hmm just another Child Molester
Offense Description:      LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS ACTS WITH CHILD UNDER 14 YEARS
possible address: GARLEN LN, SALINAS, MONTEREY COUNTY, CA 93907

 :smt091



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 09:20:57 PM
1983 article states Jerry and Luann Lawless were visiting Don and Betty Johnson from Wenatchee.  Have we checked the Wenatchee records for arrests?

I just punched in for washington state overall.  found luanne for fraud, I suppose that is her, need to check the date to verify for sure.

and that brynne cole could be her son, for assault. wasn't he someone's son?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 09:21:06 PM
1983 article states Jerry and Luann Lawless were visiting Don and Betty Johnson from Wenatchee.  Have we checked the Wenatchee records for arrests?
Northern here is a site for you
http://www.clark.wa.gov/sheriff/sorsearch/sorsearch.aspx?type=LEVELIII
and another
http://www.icrimewatch.net/results.php?AgencyID=54597&SubmitNameSearch=1&OfndrCity=&OfndrLast=gomes&OfndrFirst=

You have to hit the search Button in the upper left hand corner - with icrime

- Both these sites cover Wenatchee area for Sex offenders.
The first link is to the sheriff's dept  - You don't even have to have a name you can click on the buttons as it states and it will pull up everyone.
I did that and WHEW WEEE MY GAWD ..the photos of some of these men are so EVIL ..
Help us all ..and I think most of them are just rambling around this planet free .. they are not in jail most of them.




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 09:27:58 PM
Doubledecker I found a weird one.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=_JANAAAAIBAJ&sjid=kmMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3770,21136&dq=lawless+brewster

Attend Race
Attending the Mattawa Desert 100 Motor bike races this past weekend were Rich Tomason and his two sons, Bill Lawless and Pat Kegley.

I do not recall in our searching connecting Thomason with Kegley and Lawless.  Which branch does this one belong to?

I have not seen those before

Found another article about Rich Thomason and Bill Lalwless going to Salt Flats to try to break the speed record.

Quad-City Herald - Sep 16, 1982
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=064MAAAAIBAJ&sjid=i2MDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3406,537957&dq=lawless+brewster


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 09:31:17 PM
1983 article states Jerry and Luann Lawless were visiting Don and Betty Johnson from Wenatchee.  Have we checked the Wenatchee records for arrests?
Northern here is a site for you
http://www.clark.wa.gov/sheriff/sorsearch/sorsearch.aspx?type=LEVELIII
and another
http://www.icrimewatch.net/results.php?AgencyID=54597&SubmitNameSearch=1&OfndrCity=&OfndrLast=gomes&OfndrFirst=

You have to hit the search Button in the upper left hand corner - with icrime

- Both these sites cover Wenatchee area for Sex offenders.
The first link is to the sheriff's dept  - You don't even have to have a name you can click on the buttons as it states and it will pull up everyone.
I did that and WHEW WEEE MY GAWD ..the photos of some of these men are so EVIL ..
Help us all ..and I think most of them are just rambling around this planet free .. they are not in jail most of them.




Thanks Deenie!  I will try these in a bit.  Still working on putting together the mess of descendants from Ruchard B Lawless and Wilma Toots Holt.  They only had one son (as far as I could find)  but he was married 3 times and had kids with all three wives.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 29, 2009, 09:31:27 PM
Monkeys!!

I am a bit under the weather but I wanted to stop in and show support and praise for the awesome work you are doing. There are several compliments on it on the blinkoncrime site.

DD- I think you are correct that there are multiple names with similar initials, wth? So are we of the opinion the Gary D Sr is in Oklahoma?

How is the sex offender Harris related to Connie Harris Lawless?

I think our next project is a "Tree of Criminals" of this clan, and see what patterns emerge.

Doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out if both brothers were molesters, there is a high probability they were molested. I am running in between jumping around with pride on your work here, and feeling the need to shower.

In awe and praise-

Blink


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 09:33:51 PM
1983 article states Jerry and Luann Lawless were visiting Don and Betty Johnson from Wenatchee.  Have we checked the Wenatchee records for arrests?

Luanne Lawless
Luanne D Lawless
Luanne Fox
Luanne D Fox
Luanna Lacei
Luanna D Lacei
Luanna Dee Lacei
Luanne D Lacei
Luwanna Lacei
Lauanne Lawless
Luane Lawless
Luanna Lawless
Luanne Warner
Luanne D Warner
 51
East Wenatchee , WA
Spokane , WA
Newhall , CA
Wenatchee , WA
Orondo , WA
Wrangell , AK 

9  addresses in  WENATCHEE WA
3  addresses in  WRANGELL AK
5  addresses in  NEWHALL CA
10  addresses in  EAST WENATCHEE WA
6  addresses in  ORONDO WA
4  addresses in  SPOKANE WA

LAWLESS, LUANNE D (Age 51)

Associated names:

FOX, LUANNE 
LACEI, LUANNA D
 LACEI, LUANNE D
  EAST WENATCHEE, WA
E WENATCHEE, WA
WHITTIER, CA
WENATCHEE, WA

Possible Relatives:

FOX, RANDALL LAMOINE (Age 51)
LAWLESS, GERALD D (Age 58)
FOX, COREY LYNN (Age 42)
FOX, CONSUELA (Age 64)
LAWLESS, KAI A (Age 22)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

WILDER, JAMES C (Age 59)
WILDER, ELIZABETH L (Age 56)


 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 29, 2009, 09:34:36 PM
Doubledecker,
Did you see my post last night about the business listed for Timothy Lawless that showed Monique and Diedra working for same company which he supposed owns.  Take a lowk at all the addresses.  Don and Betty had a daughter named Monique and granddaughter named Diedra!!!!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 09:38:05 PM
Not sure if this has already been captured ,

Lane Lawless was living in Livermore California in 1982

Quad-City Herald - Oct 14, 1982
Lane Lawless, Livermore, California , visited last week in Brewster with Mrs. Esther Lawless.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=164MAAAAIBAJ&sjid=i2MDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4359,750752&dq=lawless+brewster


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 09:39:49 PM

so does luanne and gerry part of the CLL family down in whittier and La habra?

luanne and gerry have a whittier  listing above

now look at this

LAWLESS, SHARON A (Age 66)
  SOUTH GATE, CA
LA HABRA, CA  melissa is from here
WHITTIER, CA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, LEONARD

Possible Roommates / Associates:

DEJONG, SONDRA C (Age 68)



here is brett
LAWLESS, BRETT ARTHUR (Age 45)
LAKEWOOD, CA
WHITTIER, CA
BELLFLOWER, CA

 Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, MARY ELISABETH (Age 44)




here is joni, daughter of CLL
HUGHES, JONI IRENE (Age 41)


Associated names:

 HUGHES, JONI E
 LAWLESS, JONI I
WHITTIER, CA
PALMDALE, CA
LAWNDALE, CA
RIALTO, CA
TORRANCE, CA
TRACY, CA
HAWTHORNE, CA

Possible Relatives:

HUGHES, JOHN PHILIP (Age 47)
HUGHES, JEAN MARIE (Age 67)
HUGHES, JULIE MAE (Age 44)
HUGHES, JEFFREY LLOYD (Age 39)
LAWLESS, CLIFFORD LANE (Age 67)
HUGHES, COOPER WILLIAM
HUGHES, JOANIE

Possible Roommates / Associates:

WINKELMAN, CHERYL D (Age 54)
WINKELMAN, DONALD ROY (Age 60)
WINKELMAN, MARK DOUGLAS (Age 35)




here is melissa

LAWLESS, MELISSA CHANTEL (Age 27)

Associated names:

 HUCKABY, MELISSA
 LA HABRA, CA
TRACY, CA
CYPRESS, CA
WHITTIER, CA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, JUDY A (Age 49)
LAWLESS, BRIAN L (Age 48)
LAWLESS, ADAM B (Age 23)
HUCKABY, JOHN
LAWLESS, CONNIE
LAWLESS, CLIFFORD L
LAWLESS, LANE BRIAN
LAWLESS, CALEB J (Age 21)
LAWLESS, JULIANNE 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 09:45:49 PM
Doubledecker,
Did you see my post last night about the business listed for Timothy Lawless that showed Monique and Diedra working for same company which he supposed owns.  Take a lowk at all the addresses.  Don and Betty had a daughter named Monique and granddaughter named Diedra!!!!

yes I did see it, I copied it over into my "to do" list I have over here in my files, but I just have not had time to get to it yet ugh.  There are just so many lines etc, and I keep going on one til I get stuck, then I go onto another.  Everyonce in awhile I will just take a break and try to look up whatever anyone else is doing.  It's just so mind-boggling I have to try to keep my thoughts on one thing at a time.  but I will eventually get through everything--- one day ugh :gaah:


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 09:46:07 PM
Doubledecker , now that is interesting.  I know we are getting close.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 09:49:06 PM
Not sure if this has already been captured ,

Lane Lawless was living in Livermore California in 1982

Quad-City Herald - Oct 14, 1982
Lane Lawless, Livermore, California , visited last week in Brewster with Mrs. Esther Lawless.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=164MAAAAIBAJ&sjid=i2MDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4359,750752&dq=lawless+brewster

yes he use to live there.  I don't know if you are from or familiar with cali.  livermore is just up the hill from tracy, going to the bay area.  I think he pastored a church there. 

he was also living in san jose, modesto, eureka, redding, and a few others I can't remember off the top of my head right now.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 09:51:06 PM
Jess could you help with this one as well?

There is an article about Nick and Nancy here : http://www.footnote.com/document/35586762/

that I can not get to but it mentions other family. 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 29, 2009, 09:52:21 PM
Not sure if this has already been captured ,

Lane Lawless was living in Livermore California in 1982

Quad-City Herald - Oct 14, 1982
Lane Lawless, Livermore, California , visited last week in Brewster with Mrs. Esther Lawless.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=164MAAAAIBAJ&sjid=i2MDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4359,750752&dq=lawless+brewster

yes he use to live there.  I don't know if you are from or familiar with cali.  livermore is just up the hill from tracy, going to the bay area.  I think he pastored a church there. 

he was also living in san jose, modesto, eureka, redding, and a few others I can't remember off the top of my head right now.
Hayward and Redondo Beach, IIRC (formerly Gardena)


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 09:55:05 PM
Monkeys!!

I am a bit under the weather but I wanted to stop in and show support and praise for the awesome work you are doing. There are several compliments on it on the blinkoncrime site.

DD- I think you are correct that there are multiple names with similar initials, wth? So are we of the opinion the Gary D Sr is in Oklahoma?

How is the sex offender Harris related to Connie Harris Lawless?

I think our next project is a "Tree of Criminals" of this clan, and see what patterns emerge.

Doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out if both brothers were molesters, there is a high probability they were molested. I am running in between jumping around with pride on your work here, and feeling the need to shower.

In awe and praise-

Blink

 Blink take care of yourself and hope you feel better real soon.  I agree, we have put together in a few days what should take months.  There are many  awesome moneys all pulling together to get this done. 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 10:01:21 PM
Doubledecker , now that is interesting.  I know we are getting close.

ok luanne is married to gerald/gerry/jerry .  he is the son of richard birdette Lawless and Bette June grimes  who marries next Donald Lafayette Johnson.

gerald's brother is the john lawless we can't find who
and there father is the brother to CLL's dad,
so... gerald and john are first cousins to CLL
gerald and luanne are down in whittier and la habra where CLL's kids are and melissa.

now who is the dick back up there who is the sex offender.  let me look.  is that richard the father? or someone else?

brynne lawless is the son of gerald and luanne



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 29, 2009, 10:18:16 PM
Jess could you help with this one as well?

There is an article about Nick and Nancy here : http://www.footnote.com/document/35586762/

that I can not get to but it mentions other family. 

You got it!  Happy to oblige!



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 29, 2009, 10:20:04 PM
Perhaps this can shed some more light on something.   It's George M. Lawless' obit.




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 10:25:34 PM
Perhaps this can shed some more light on something.   It's George M. Lawless' obit.





cool  there is paul lawless, brother of CLL
he went to Lompoc. 

let me see who is there.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 10:27:37 PM
Birth announcement Bryan Cole Lawless son of Louann (fraud charges) and Gerald/Jerry Lawless.  Bryan was born 14 Mar 1983 so if the apples does not fall far from the tree he may be "in the system" if someone has time to check.

Quad-City Herald - Mar 17, 1983
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 29, 2009, 10:28:42 PM
Esther Lawless Obit


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 10:30:31 PM
Jessstar what date was on that obit for George W Lawless?  You make me happy !!   ::cartwheel::   ::MonkeyDance::   ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 29, 2009, 10:33:05 PM
These names are familiar (Dicus).  Was Lane in the navy?



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 10:35:12 PM
If I could BAKE you all a Cake .. I would
HOLY Banana's the Stuff you all find ...

 ::MonkeyDance::

WOW WOW Double Northern WOW ..


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 29, 2009, 10:36:03 PM
Jessstar what date was on that obit for George W Lawless?  You make me happy !!   ::cartwheel::   ::MonkeyDance::   ::cartwheel::

Sorry about that. . . December 12, 1968


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 10:37:03 PM
If I could BAKE you all a Cake .. I would
HOLY Banana's the Stuff you all find ...

 ::MonkeyDance::

WOW WOW Double Northern WOW ..
Add JESS and BLINK ..
Blink I hope your taking your Vita C  :smt056


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 10:37:46 PM
Lane Lawless parents are Gworge W Lawless and Jesse G Dicus.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 10:38:42 PM
paul george lawless aka george paul, aka p. george
brother of CLL


Social Security Death Index
about Paul Lawless
Name: Paul Lawless
SSN: xxxxx  I have the number, can't post it
Last Residence: 20781  Hyattsville, Prince Georges, Maryland, United States of America
Born: 24 Jan 1927
Died: 26 Mar 1997
State (Year) SSN issued: Washington (Before 1951)
 
: Paul Lawless
Birth Date: Jan 1927
Address: 4625 Quimby Av, Beltsville, Maryland 20705-0701 (1993)
[Pob 403, Beltsville, Maryland 20704-0701 (1984)] 


U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
about George P Lawless
Name: George P Lawless
Birth Year: 1927 
Race: White, citizen (White) 
Nativity State or Country: Washington 
State of Residence: Washington 
County or City: Okanogan 
   
Enlistment Date: 20 Jun 1945
Enlistment State: Washington 
Enlistment City: Fort Lewis 
Branch: No branch assignment 
Branch Code: No branch assignment 
Grade Code: Private 
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law 
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men) 
Source: Civil Life 
   
Education: 4 years of high school 
Marital Status: Single, without dependents 
Height: 00 
Weight: 000 
 
1930 United States Federal Census
about P George Lawless
Name: P George Lawless
Home in 1930: Brewster, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1926 
Relation to Head-of-house: Son 
Father's Name: George W
Mother's Name: Jessie G
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
George W Lawless 37 
Jessie G Lawless 24 
P George Lawless 3 4/

so at some point he is in LOMPOC, CA
hmmm I can't find an address for him there
anyone?

what other lawless went to maryland. 
someone else is in beltsville.  let me look

 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 29, 2009, 10:39:02 PM
Esther Lawless Obit


And that would be January 27, 1983   ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 10:43:14 PM
okay he is the owner of paul's books I bet, I remember seeing that too let me find it

paul george Lawless, brother to clifford lane lawless
this is the right age for 1927 birthdate, this is him.


LAWLESS, GEORGE PAUL (Age 82)

Associated names:

LAWLESS, PAUL
LAWLESS, G

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

CHEM-TECH AGENCY, INC
PAUL'S BOOKS
BELTSVILLE, MD same address as son Paul above
HYATTSVILLE, MD
WOODBRIDGE, VA

Possible Roommates / Associates:

HORA, TRILOCHAN S (Age 60)


LAWLESS, PAUL GEORGE
LAWLESS, PAUL G
LAWLESS, PAUL
(DOB: 01/1927)(DOD: 03/26/1997) (Age at Death:70)

4312 HAMILTON ST
HYATTSVILLE, MD 20781-1938
PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY
(03/1997-Current)

PO BOX 403
BELTSVILLE, MD 20704-0403
PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY
(01/1983-01/1997)

11509 NEVIS DR
BELTSVILLE, MD 20705-3512
PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY
(11/1996-11/1996)

4625 QUIMBY AVE
BELTSVILLE, MD 20705-1537
PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

CHEM-TECH AGENCY, INC
PAUL'S BOOKS BELTSVILLE, MD
HYATTSVILLE, MD
WOODBRIDGE, VA

Possible Roommates / Associates:

HORA, TRILOCHAN S (Age 60) who is this?  




ARLINGTON, VA
BELTSVILLE, MD
WOODBRIDGE, VA
FAIRFAX, VA

Possible Relatives:

HORA, TRILOCHAN S (Age 42)
HORA, T S

Possible Roommates / Associates:

LAWLESS, GEORGE PAUL (Age 82)


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 10:50:26 PM
Esther Lawless Obit


And that would be January 27, 1983   ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyRoll::
http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi
ESTHER LAWLESS    23 Oct 1897   Jan 1983   98812 (Brewster, Okanogan, WA)


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 10:52:42 PM
where I am at:

Locust Grove Cemetery Brewster, WA
Headstone
Lawless, Richard B, b. (Mar 22) 1910, d. (May 26) 1962, Beloved Husband and Father, SW side, B-78 L-12

1930 – Dick Lawless was employed at the Motor. Co . Garage Brewster

1950 - Dick Lawless purchased the half interest owned by Weldon Sampson in the Brewster Gift Shop

1956 - Mr & Mrs Dick Lawless purchase the former Weldon Sampson home and now reside there.

1960 – Elected Kiwanis president Brewster

Married Wilma (Toots) Holt 1936 Seattle,King, WA

First marraige of Richard B Lawless to Wilma Toots Holt

They have a son
This one son has the following marriages and children.  I have not slotted names in yet as I have not confirmed them all.

First marriage to a Ms. Hammond
   Child one Male Lawless
   Child two female Lawless

Second marriage to unknown
   Child one Female Lawless
   Child two Male Lawless

Marriage 3 to a Ms. Pickett
   Child one Female Lawless



Catch you all in the morning! 





Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 10:54:34 PM
Paul Lawless
PAUL LAWLESS    24 Jan 1927   26 Mar 1997 (V)   20781 (Hyattsville, Prince Georges, MD)   (none specified)

State that issued Death Cert: WA
http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 10:55:33 PM
Good Night Northern
You Rock ~ thank You for all your Efforts !!  ::MonkeyDance::



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 29, 2009, 10:55:56 PM
This would be January 2, 1975



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 29, 2009, 10:58:02 PM
Here is an article from Tulsa World, ( Oklahoma paper?) 

Tulsa World Fri. Oct. 13, 2006
Births - St. Francis Hospital
Theresa and Timothy Lawless, Hulbert, boy.

Don't know if this is him But I'll keep looking for his Dad may be in Oklahoma.



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 10:58:10 PM
Birth announcement Bryan Cole Lawless son of Louann (fraud charges) and Gerald/Jerry Lawless.  Bryan was born 14 Mar 1983 so if the apples does not fall far from the tree he may be "in the system" if someone has time to check.

Quad-City Herald - Mar 17, 1983
 


yes same birthdate, I had posted the charges earlier but did not know if the birthdate matched, but it does. 
now who is this DICK with the rape of child charge? at the end of this.  the other is the mother for fraud.
these are all in washinton

washington
Brynn Cole Lawless Date of Birth: 03/14/1983
AKAs: Height: 6'3"
Weight: 202 LBS
Hair Color: GRAY
Eye Color: BROWN
Race: WHITE
Gender: Male

V CRIMINAL OFFENSE 1
V Violent
Case Number: 051004909
Offense Type: Assault
Offense Code: 9A36031
Offense Description: ASSAULT 3
Conviction Place: CHELAN
Date Reported:

washington
Full Name: Luanne Dee Lawless Date of Birth: 08/15/1957
AKAs: Height: 5'8"
Weight: 110 LBS
Hair Color: BROWN
Eye Color: BROWN
Race: WHITE
Gender: Female

T CRIMINAL OFFENSE 1
T Theft/Robbery

Case Number: 962465
Offense Type: Fraud
Offense Code:
Offense Description: FORGERY FORGERY
Date Reported:

T CRIMINAL OFFENSE 2
Offense Date:
Case Number: 962465
Offense Type: Fraud
Offense Code:
Offense Description: OTHER FELONY FORGERY
Date Reported:


who is this?

Full Name: Dick Lawless Date of Birth: 08/05/1948  
AKAs: Height: 5'11"
Weight: 150 LBS
Hair Color: BROWN
Eye Color: HAZEL
Race: WHITE
Gender: Male

S CRIMINAL OFFENSE 1
Offense Date:
S Sex Related
Case Number: 928793
Offense Type: Rape
Offense Code:
Offense Description: RAPE OF CHILD 1 RAPE OF CHILD 1  
Date Reported:

S CRIMINAL OFFENSE 2
Offense Date:
Case Number: 928793
Offense Type: Rape
Offense Code:
Offense Description: RAPE OF CHILD 1 INDECENT LIBERTIES  
Date Reported:

S CRIMINAL OFFENSE 3
Offense Date:
Case Number: 928793
Offense Type: Rape
Offense Code:
Offense Description: INDECENT LIBERTIES RAPE OF CHILD 1  
Date Reported:

O CRIMINAL OFFENSE 4
Offense Date:
Case Number: 928793
Offense Type: Traffic/Other
Offense Code:
Offense Description: INDECENT LIBERTIES INDECENT LIBERTIES
Date Reported:



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 29, 2009, 11:02:23 PM
Holy Smolly!  This is for sure the LAWLESS family tree.  What other charges will come up?  Nite all...really letting my eyes rest.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 29, 2009, 11:02:25 PM
November 29, 1973:



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 29, 2009, 11:03:18 PM
Holy Smolly!  This is for sure the LAWLESS family tree.  What other charges will come up?  Nite all...really letting my eyes rest.

Unbelievable, isn't it. 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 29, 2009, 11:04:23 PM
Holy Smolly!  This is for sure the LAWLESS family tree.  What other charges will come up?  Nite all...really letting my eyes rest.


Oh, and good nite NR.  I'm gonna be hitting the sack in a few too.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 11:04:23 PM
I keep going back to this site - front page link
http://www.kyusa.addr.com/

click on the surname Lawless and it takes you to this link

http://www.kyusa.addr.com/Lawless//index.html

If you go to it  - it is the page of the history of the name Lawless - and it does show a George W. Lawless


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 29, 2009, 11:07:09 PM
Still in MD as of December 1982:



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 11:11:18 PM
I did an Advanced search of the name Lawless for death records - born 1899 +

http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi?lastname=LAWLESS&birth=1899&stat=a&start=21

I did not use a State - came up with 4 pages of names


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 29, 2009, 11:13:26 PM
He's in Lompoc in April 1967



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 11:16:55 PM
These names are familiar (Dicus).  Was Lane in the navy?



there is a bunch of them in the navy, I will have to check for CLL. 

I have all the dicus genealgy will post later.  Dicus is the [arents of Connie lawless, wife of CLL.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 11:26:57 PM
These names are familiar (Dicus).  Was Lane in the navy?



there is a bunch of them in the navy, I will have to check for CLL. 

I have all the dicus genealgy will post later.  Dicus is the [arents of Connie lawless, wife of CLL.


oooppp    dicus is the name of CLL's mother
Jessie Grace Dicus
Birth: 1906
Douglas, Washington, United States 
Death:
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on April 29, 2009, 11:28:30 PM
You know I  did my family name in the criminal search Deenie posted and all that really came up was 3 people with traffic violations! Is this family for real?

Good night Northern Rose, sleep well!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 11:30:52 PM
every time paul is visiting or they mention him, he is always by himself, never mentions a wife or kids.  I am thinking he might have never married?

he is also all over.  I wonder if he was career military? 

U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
about George P Lawless
Name: George P Lawless
Birth Year: 1927   
Race: White, citizen (White) 
Nativity State or Country: Washington 
State of Residence: Washington 
County or City: Okanogan 
   
Enlistment Date: 20 Jun 1945  he would be 18 yrs old then
Enlistment State: Washington 
Enlistment City: Fort Lewis 
Branch: No branch assignment 
Branch Code: No branch assignment 
Grade Code: Private 
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law 
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men) 
Source: Civil Life 
   
Education: 4 years of high school 
Marital Status: Single, without dependents 
Height: 00 
Weight: 000 
 
 

 Save This Record
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 11:35:36 PM
You know I  did my family name in the criminal search Deenie posted and all that really came up was 3 people with traffic violations! Is this family for real?

Good night Northern Rose, sleep well!

oh they are for real alright.  All acting like they are all just normal people.  Melissa is not the only one all twisted up.  I don't know how many of these people she ever had contact with, but CLL certainly had a lot of contact with them.  I want to find out who this dick lawless is with all the child rape charges. I notice there was a mrs dick lawless who took the scouts on a trip and gerald lawless was one of the scouts.  His father is richard birdette lawless, wonder if he is dick?  will try to see.  the right dick is born aug 1948, would be about 61 yrs old now.  let me see if I can find him.  he was in jail in washington


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 11:38:03 PM
You know I  did my family name in the criminal search Deenie posted and all that really came up was 3 people with traffic violations! Is this family for real?

Good night Northern Rose, sleep well!
TracyGirl this family stands up to their Name .. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 11:39:09 PM
its not the father of gerald and john - he is too old
seems about two generations down from that 
august 1948  hmmm still looking

Richard Birdette lawless
Birth: mar 22 1910
Wenatchee, Chelan, Washington 
Death: may 26 1962
Brewster, Okanogan, Washington 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 29, 2009, 11:40:23 PM
This would be January 2, 1975



Do we have Paul in Missouri?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 11:43:00 PM
Name: Richard R Lawless
Birth Date: Aug 1948  
Address: 3020 Grand Av #7, Everett, Washington 98201-0101 (1990)
[415 N Lakeview Rd #Tt4, Lynnwood, Washington 98037-0501 (1988)]
[6323 Beech St #21e, Everett, Washington 98203] 

wow look where he is - I remember this guy.  trying to remember where he fits.  let me check my files.

LAWLESS, RICHARD RAY (Age 60)

Associated names:

 LAWLES, R 
 LAWLES, RICHARD R
 LAWLESS, RICHARD R
  DEER LODGE, MT
LEWISTON, ID
CLARKSTON, WA

MARYSVILLE, WA
EVERETT, WA
MOUNTLAKE TERRACE, WA
LYNNWOOD, WA

 Possible Relatives:

JEANBLANC, AMANDA MARIE (Age 30)
LAWLESS, RENEE M (Age 36)
LAWLES, RICHARD
BREITBACH LAWLESS, HEATHER CHRISTINE

Possible Roommates / Associates:

MONTGOMERY, BRENDA KAY (Age 51)


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 29, 2009, 11:43:12 PM
every time paul is visiting or they mention him, he is always by himself, never mentions a wife or kids.  I am thinking he might have never married?

he is also all over.  I wonder if he was career military? 


Perhaps he was.  Before the site I was using to find the articles I posted went down, I did find an article that called him a "social scientist."  I'll have to dig it out tomorrow when the site is back up.

Until tomorrow, monkeys, keep up the good work, and keep the energy high! 




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 29, 2009, 11:46:07 PM
This would be January 2, 1975



Do we have Paul in Missouri?

According to that article, yes.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 11:47:19 PM
These names are familiar (Dicus).  Was Lane in the navy?



there is a bunch of them in the navy, I will have to check for CLL. 

I have all the dicus genealgy will post later.  Dicus is the [arents of Connie lawless, wife of CLL.


oooppp    dicus is the name of CLL's mother
Jessie Grace Dicus
Birth: 1906
Douglas, Washington, United States 
Death:
 
that would make Her 103 - My Grandpa was born in 1906 he passed in 1986

Naw somethings wrong because I chased her on the Death records site and she is not listed as deceased .. Should we look up the Guy "Smuckers" on Good Morning America ..to see if knows her ? lol ..
 
Maybe the first name is a nickname Jessie
I don't know but this is the link all born after 1899 for the last name Dicus
http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 11:48:04 PM
I saw that brenda montgomer name in some news article.  will try to find it.
anyone remember that name?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 29, 2009, 11:55:26 PM
Grace Lawless born 1906 -

Deceased Aug 83

90247 (Gardena, Los Angeles, CA)

http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi?lastname=lawless&birth=1906&stat=a&start=41


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 29, 2009, 11:56:22 PM
George W. Lawless married: 1st wife

Jesse G. Dicus (Mother of Clifford Lane Lawless)
born - about 1907 Washington
death -
Her Parents Born: Father, Iowa / Mother Canada(English)
Her parents: Father Alfred Dicus; Mother Sarah/aka Sallie/aka Sadie
Parents of Alfred Dicus: Father, Ohio / Mother, Iowa
Parents of Sarah: both from Canada/English
Alfred Dicus  
Born -12 Mar 1876
Death - Feb 1972 (Brewster, Okanogan, WA 98812 )
Sadie Dicus
Born - 28 Feb 1882
Death - Apr 1966 98846 (Pateros, Okanogan, WA)


George W. Lawless married: 2nd wife November 24, 1955 Brewster WA

Esther Luretta Lawless
born - October 23, 1897; Rome, Wisconsin
death - Jan 1983 (Brewster, Okanogan, WA 98812)
Her Parents Born: unknown

_______________________________
Jesse G. Dicus (Mother of Clifford Lane Lawless)
marred: 2nd husband
Unknown - AKA "Lucky Louie"
born-
death -

_________________________

Children of George W. Lawless and Jessie G. Dicus

son: Paul George Lawless
born - Jan 24, 1927
death - Mar 26, 1997

married: 1st Wife

born -
death -



son: Clifford Lane Lawless
born -
death - Living

married: 1st Wife July 9, 1960; Modesto Ca
Connie L Harris
born -
death - Living
Her Parents: A. A. Harris & Irene Harris


1910 United States Federal Census
about Jessie S Dicus
Name: Jessie S Dicus  
Age in 1910: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1906
Birthplace: Washington
Relation to Head-of-house: Daughter 
Father's Name: Alferd
Father's Birth Place: Iowa 
Mother's Name: Sarah E L 
Mother's Birth Place: Canada English 
Home in 1910: Pateros, Okanogan, Washington
Marital Status: Single 
Race: White
Gender: Female 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Alferd Dicus 34 
Sarah E L Dicus 28 
Eve L Dicus 7 
Dortha E Dicus 5 
Jessie S Dicus 4   
Baby Dicus
 
 
1930 United States Federal Census
about Jessie G Lawless
Name: Jessie G Lawless  
Home in 1930: Brewster, Okanogan, Washington
Age: 24

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1906 
Relation to Head-of-house: Wife 
Spouse's name: George W
 Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
George W Lawless 37 
Jessie G Lawless 24 
 
P George Lawless 3 4/12 
 
 

 



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 30, 2009, 12:22:38 AM
This would be January 2, 1975



Do we have Paul in Missouri?

According to that article, yes.

lol, right Jess, I meant, do we have an address on here and located him in MO as a corroborator? I may totally have missed it, but I did not think we saw him anywhere but MD. I will get right back to sickly lurking if I eff this up  ::MonkeyConfused::

SO's under Richard Lawless from Dru Sjodin site:


http://www.nsopw.gov/Core/ResultDetails.aspx?index=3&x=BF89CFC9-A1B4-4514-B7E3-3D87F0805E80

Richard Keith Lawless  *** COMPLIANT ***        
 
Physical Characteristics  
Gender: Male  Eyes: Brown
Race: White Hair: Brown
DOB: 11/27/1957 Height: 5' 11  
Age: 51 Weight: 195 lbs
 
Registration Details  
Status:  Compliant
Last Verification Date:  04/13/2009
Date of Initial Registration:  03/02/2001
Date of Registration Expiration:  LIFE
 
Michigan Public Sex Offender Registry (PSOR)




Offense Description State Conviction Date Court Name
750.335A  Indecent Exposure MI  03/30/2001  3rd Circuit-Crim Division  
750.10A  Sexually Delinquent Person MI  03/30/2001  3rd Circuit-Crim Division  
750.335A  Indecent Exposure MI  11/30/1991  District 19  
750.335A  Indecent Exposure MI  09/09/1992  District 19  
**This link reflects the current statute and due to continuous legislative changes, may not be indicative of the statute at the time the offender was convicted.**
 Address Information
 Type Street Address City State Zip
 
 Primary 17570 Freedom Ln Brownstown MI 48193
 

 Campus/School Information
 Role Name Street City State Zip
 
 None      
 

  

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Copyright © 2006 State of Michigan
 
Identification  
        SOR # 11954787

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
       MDOC: 171255
 
Known Alias(es)  
Rick  Lawless
 
Known Scars/Marks/Tattoos  
Scars: Arm, Right  
 
Scars: Chin  
 
Scars: Forearm, Right  
 
Scars: Thigh, Right  

[size=14ptRichard Ray Lawless[/size][/size]

LOOK WHO'S FROM WASHINGTON, now living in Montana:

 http://www.nsopw.gov/Core/ResultDetails.aspx?index=4&x=BF89CFC9-A1B4-4514-B7E3-3D87F0805E80

Lawless, Richard Ray
Offender Type: Sexual
Level: Non-Designated


Photo Date: 11/26/2007

Physical Description (Updated 03/22/2007)  Race: Caucasian Sex: Male Age: 60
Height: 5'11" Weight: 150 Birth Date: 08/05/1948
Skin Tone:  Hair: Brown Eyes: Hazel
Scars, Marks, Tattoos:  

Last Known Address  Primary Address: 742 Old West Mullen Trail  
City: Elliston State: MT Zip Code: 59728
County: Powell

 
Offense Non-Montana Statute:  Washington Rape Of A Child  Counts:  1  
Sentence Date:  09/24/1986  
  
Registration Agency  Agency: Powell County Sheriff Phone: (406) 846-2711

Registrant Information Updated: 03/24/2009 09:32:28 AM
Source: Montana Sexual or Violent Offender Registry

If this is not the same guy, they are related, imo..

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub6_022109/RobertRichardLawlessCompare.jpg)







 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on April 30, 2009, 12:41:06 AM
This would be January 2, 1975



Do we have Paul in Missouri?

According to that article, yes.

lol, right Jess, I meant, do we have an address on here and located him in MO as a corroborator? I may totally have missed it, but I did not think we saw him anywhere but MD. I will get right back to sickly lurking if I eff this up  ::MonkeyConfused::

SO's under Richard Lawless from Dru Sjodin site:


http://www.nsopw.gov/Core/ResultDetails.aspx?index=3&x=BF89CFC9-A1B4-4514-B7E3-3D87F0805E80

Richard Keith Lawless  *** COMPLIANT ***        
 
Physical Characteristics  
Gender: Male  Eyes: Brown
Race: White Hair: Brown
DOB: 11/27/1957 Height: 5' 11  
Age: 51 Weight: 195 lbs
 
Registration Details  
Status:  Compliant
Last Verification Date:  04/13/2009
Date of Initial Registration:  03/02/2001
Date of Registration Expiration:  LIFE
 
Michigan Public Sex Offender Registry (PSOR)




Offense Description State Conviction Date Court Name
750.335A  Indecent Exposure MI  03/30/2001  3rd Circuit-Crim Division  
750.10A  Sexually Delinquent Person MI  03/30/2001  3rd Circuit-Crim Division  
750.335A  Indecent Exposure MI  11/30/1991  District 19  
750.335A  Indecent Exposure MI  09/09/1992  District 19  
**This link reflects the current statute and due to continuous legislative changes, may not be indicative of the statute at the time the offender was convicted.**
 Address Information
 Type Street Address City State Zip
 
 Primary 17570 Freedom Ln Brownstown MI 48193
 

 Campus/School Information
 Role Name Street City State Zip
 
 None      
 

  

Michigan.gov Home   |  MSP Home  |  State Web Sites  |  Contact MSP
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Copyright © 2006 State of Michigan
 
Identification  
        SOR # 11954787

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
       MDOC: 171255
 
Known Alias(es)  
Rick  Lawless
 
Known Scars/Marks/Tattoos  
Scars: Arm, Right  
 
Scars: Chin  
 
Scars: Forearm, Right  
 
Scars: Thigh, Right  

[size=14ptRichard Ray Lawless[/size][/size]

LOOK WHO'S FROM WASHINGTON, now living in Montana:

 http://www.nsopw.gov/Core/ResultDetails.aspx?index=4&x=BF89CFC9-A1B4-4514-B7E3-3D87F0805E80

Lawless, Richard Ray
Offender Type: Sexual
Level: Non-Designated


Photo Date: 11/26/2007

Physical Description (Updated 03/22/2007)  Race: Caucasian Sex: Male Age: 60
Height: 5'11" Weight: 150 Birth Date: 08/05/1948
Skin Tone:  Hair: Brown Eyes: Hazel
Scars, Marks, Tattoos:  

Last Known Address  Primary Address: 742 Old West Mullen Trail  
City: Elliston State: MT Zip Code: 59728
County: Powell

 
Offense Non-Montana Statute:  Washington Rape Of A Child  Counts:  1  
Sentence Date:  09/24/1986  
  
Registration Agency  Agency: Powell County Sheriff Phone: (406) 846-2711

Registrant Information Updated: 03/24/2009 09:32:28 AM
Source: Montana Sexual or Violent Offender Registry

If this is not the same guy, they are related, imo..

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub6_022109/RobertRichardLawlessCompare.jpg)







 

Are you kidding me? another one? Holy smokes! Is this guy related to MH?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 12:47:44 AM
that richard R lawless you have aug 1948 is the very same guy I am researching now.
he is the one out of clarkston wa and lewiston ID and deer park mt.  he is the one I have listed with 3 charges of child rape in washington.  I am digging up a bunch of stuff on him and I found something I can't say.  we have to figure out who all this guy is connected to.  he also has addresses with JOHNSON names, can't find a dale yet though, but I ran into something really not good at all.  will not post it, but we have got to figure out how this guy connects to the lawless lines in cali.

who is that robert you say he is related to?



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 12:52:22 AM
this address for richard r lawless will not come up at all
Last Known Address  Primary Address: 742 Old West Mullen Trail   
City: Elliston State: MT Zip Code: 59728

I wonder if this guy is on the run?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 12:56:45 AM
Name: Richard R Lawless
Birth Date: Aug 1948
Address: 3020 Grand Av #7, Everett, Washington 98201-0101 (1990)
[415 N Lakeview Rd #Tt4, Lynnwood, Washington 98037-0501 (1988)]
[6323 Beech St #21e, Everett, Washington 98203]


DEER LODGE, MT
LEWISTON, ID
CLARKSTON, WA
MARYSVILLE, WA
EVERETT, WA
MOUNTLAKE TERRACE, WA
LYNNWOOD, WA

Possible Relatives:

JEANBLANC, AMANDA MARIE (Age 30)
LAWLESS, RENEE M (Age 36)
LAWLES, RICHARD
BREITBACHLAWLESS, HEATHER CHRISTINE

Possible Roommates / Associates:

MONTGOMERY, BRENDA KAY (Age 51)





Name: Richard R Lawless
Address: 7122 SE 142nd Av, Clearview, Washington 98290-1201 (1987)

7122 SE 142nd Av, Clearview, Washington
SNOHOMISH, WA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, MELANIE



7122 SE 142nd Av, Clearview, Washington
SNOHOMISH, WA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, RICHARD R (Age 60)



Name: Richard R Lawless
Address: 24200 S 60th E Av, Mountlake Terrace, Washington 98043-0301 (1993)


24200 S 60th E Av, Mountlake Terrace, Washington

can't find nothing at this address that seems to fit

but did find the name of this biz, then cross-referenced and found a biz with the same name here/it caught my eye because of Jeffers and whittier, so just making a note of it, probably is nothing.

MULTITRONICS SYSTEMS CORPORATION
South el monte, CA
Whittier, CA  
JEFFERS, R A the jeffers name keeps popping up with timothy john lawless addresses, not sure if connected(PRESIDENT)
JEFFERS, R A
(REGISTERED AGENT) COLIMA PODIATRISTS GROUP, INC
R A JEFFERS & SONS


Name: Richard Lawless
Address: 415 Lakeview Rd
City: Lynnwood
State: Washington
Zip Code: 98037-2142
Phone Number: 206-Edit-No phone numbers please
Residence Years: 1994 1995



this name is above with richard r lawless address

(206) Edit-No phone numbers please

OLYMPIA, WA
OCEAN SHORES, WA
SEATTLE, WA
LYNNWOOD, WA
EVERETT, WA

Possible Relatives:

BAJOCICH, MARY N (Age 38)
JOHN, BAJOCICH (Age 48)
BAJOCICH, MARTIN A (Age 95)
BAJOCICH, MARIA N (Age 71)
BACKMAN, COREEN J (Age 37)
BACKMAN, ELDON F
BAJOCICH, JOHN K (Age 48)


also at this address/ johnson names
LYNNWOOD, WA
CLINTON, MN
MCALLEN, TX
ORTONVILLE, MN

Possible Relatives:

JOHNSON, BERNICE L (Age 79)
JOHNSON, ERNEST W (Age 103)
JOHNSON, NANCY M (Age 43)
JOHNSON, HOWARD A (Age 69)
JOHNSON, CLAYTON W (Age 71)
JOHNSON, CLIFFORD D (Age 63)
JOHNSON, CAROL J (Age 62)
JOHNSON, WILLIAM

Possible Roommates / Associates:

VINCENT, PATRICIA ANN (Age 109)
MONARKO, JAMES ROBERT (Age 40)
BROWN, DELBERT F (Age 67)
BROOM, PHILLIP BOREN (Age 60)

also at this address
LAS VEGAS, NV
GRAND PRAIRIE, TX
SUN CITY, AZ
COLORADO SPRINGS, CO
ARLINGTON, TX
LYNNWOOD, WA
EDMONDS, WA
MOUNTLAKE TERRACE, WA
SHORELINE, WA

Possible Relatives:

MILLERHUBER, CRYSTAL M (Age 41)
LARREAU, BARBARA JEAN (Age 64)
LARREAU, JASON S (Age 36)
LARREAU, STACY LEE
LARREAU, STACY (Age 46)
LARREAU, NORA
WALLACE, CINDY RENE (Age 38)
LARREAU, MARNIE
LARREAU, KATHERINE E (Age 63)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

TURNER, DAVID T (Age 39)
TURNER, MELANIE COLLEEN (Age 39)
HARRIS, CHARLIE O (Age 86)
BERNHARD, DOROTHY V (Age 75)
LARREAU, KEITH A (Age 41)






Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on April 30, 2009, 12:57:49 AM
this address for richard r lawless will not come up at all
Last Known Address  Primary Address: 742 Old West Mullen Trail   
City: Elliston State: MT Zip Code: 59728

I wonder if this guy is on the run?

3 charges of child rape? He is not in jail? WTbleeeeep! I just realized the pic has 2 different men. Can you post a link to the information you don't want to post or is it of a sensitive nature?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 30, 2009, 12:58:57 AM
that richard R lawless you have aug 1948 is the very same guy I am researching now.
he is the one out of clarkston wa and lewiston ID and deer park mt.  he is the one I have listed with 3 charges of child rape in washington.  I am digging up a bunch of stuff on him and I found something I can't say.  we have to figure out who all this guy is connected to.  he also has addresses with JOHNSON names, can't find a dale yet though, but I ran into something really not good at all.  will not post it, but we have got to figure out how this guy connects to the lawless lines in cali.

who is that robert you say he is related to?



ok to e me double decker on that if you prefer, If your uncomfortable posting as is.

B


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2009, 01:02:13 AM
Lane Lawless - Black and White

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/lawlessshit-1.jpg)


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 01:11:31 AM
just ran into this while looking for something else

Nevada Marriage Index, 1956-2005
about Nancy L Lawless
Name: Nancy L Lawless  
Gender: Female 
Residence state: Washington 
Spouse: Nicholas A Pizzitola  
Spouse residence state: Washington 
Marriage Date: 19 Feb 1977
Marriage city: Virginia City 
Officiant type: Civil celebrant 
Recorded date: 16 Mar 1977
Recorded city: Reno 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2009, 01:14:36 AM
The Two Men compared from Blinks photos -

Richard and Robert

The Black and White Photo is the Senior to the Male in the Color photo

They are related Men that is what I see - no doubt in my mind.
From 2000-2007 I was an Esthetician and it was my position to study the human face and practice skin care. I have had over 10k faces within my hands. The Human face tells no tales.
I am sure each and everyone of you has had someone at some point in your life come to You and ask you if you have a sister named " so n so" because You look just like another..or someone has come up to you and has thought you were someone they knew.. by Face.

Literally there is 5 types of skin and less than 10 skeletal groupings of features - and Yes they can be mixed into Thousands of " results" - yet when it all comes down to it .. the Human face is not that complicated.
Those two men in the photos' as I see it - are Father and Son.




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on April 30, 2009, 01:24:30 AM
The Two Men compared from Blinks photos -

Richard and Robert

The Black and White Photo is the Senior to the Male in the Color photo

They are related Men that is what I see - no doubt in my mind.
From 2000-2007 I was an Esthetician and it was my position to study the human face and practice skin care. I have had over 10k faces within my hands. The Human face tells no tales.
I am sure each and everyone of you has had someone at some point in your life come to You and ask you if you have a sister named " so n so" because You look just like another..or someone has come up to you and has thought you were someone they knew.. by Face.

Literally there is 5 types of skin and less than 10 skeletal groupings of features - and Yes they can be mixed into Thousands of " results" - yet when it all comes down to it .. the Human face is not that complicated.
Those two men in the photos' as I see it - are Father and Son.




so are you thinking the b&w photo is the father? They do look a like, I'll give you that!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on April 30, 2009, 01:26:08 AM
Sorry Deenie I see you answered my question. Sorry I am watching ghost hunters and trying to read at the same time, lol.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: klaasend on April 30, 2009, 01:45:09 AM
The Two Men compared from Blinks photos -

Richard and Robert

The Black and White Photo is the Senior to the Male in the Color photo

They are related Men that is what I see - no doubt in my mind.
From 2000-2007 I was an Esthetician and it was my position to study the human face and practice skin care. I have had over 10k faces within my hands. The Human face tells no tales.
I am sure each and everyone of you has had someone at some point in your life come to You and ask you if you have a sister named " so n so" because You look just like another..or someone has come up to you and has thought you were someone they knew.. by Face.

Literally there is 5 types of skin and less than 10 skeletal groupings of features - and Yes they can be mixed into Thousands of " results" - yet when it all comes down to it .. the Human face is not that complicated.
Those two men in the photos' as I see it - are Father and Son.




All 3 have similar facial features.  Slight differences in the noses and ears.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub6_022109/LawlessCompare.jpg)


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2009, 01:46:33 AM
The Two Men compared from Blinks photos -

Richard and Robert

The Black and White Photo is the Senior to the Male in the Color photo

They are related Men that is what I see - no doubt in my mind.
From 2000-2007 I was an Esthetician and it was my position to study the human face and practice skin care. I have had over 10k faces within my hands. The Human face tells no tales.
I am sure each and everyone of you has had someone at some point in your life come to You and ask you if you have a sister named " so n so" because You look just like another..or someone has come up to you and has thought you were someone they knew.. by Face.

Literally there is 5 types of skin and less than 10 skeletal groupings of features - and Yes they can be mixed into Thousands of " results" - yet when it all comes down to it .. the Human face is not that complicated.
Those two men in the photos' as I see it - are Father and Son.




so are you thinking the b&w photo is the father? They do look a like, I'll give you that!

Yep, the Black and White is the Father. I can tell by his skin for one. And the other photo of the Other Man - has different texture within his skin. It's not as aged and not as tight around the eyes ..which shows a more youthful face - YET Science tells
When you look at a parent and compare a child -the parent normally holds the more distinctive features. The child is a simulation of the parent. The are def related.
You can go look at your own family photos. Its true.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 01:50:45 AM
this is the same richard Ray Lawless born aug 15 1948
here he is listed with wife amanda

Name: Richard Lawless
Spouse: Amanda 
Address: 1132 Bryden Ave 
City: Lewiston 
State: Idaho 
Zip Code: 83501-5351
Phone Number: 208-Edit-No phone numbers please
Residence Years: 1998 1999 2000 2001 



at the above address is DEER LODGE, MT
LEWISTON, ID
CLARKSTON, WA
MARYSVILLE, WA
EVERETT, WA
MOUNTLAKE TERRACE, WA
LYNNWOOD, WA

Possible Relatives:

JEANBLANC, AMANDA MARIE (Age 30) wife or daughter with same 1st nameLAWLESS, RENEE M (Age 36)
LAWLES, RICHARD
BREITBACH LAWLESS, HEATHER CHRISTINE

Possible Roommates / Associates:

MONTGOMERY, BRENDA KAY (Age 51)
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 30, 2009, 01:55:06 AM
 :2brickwall: No Timothy  No Gary :2brickwall:

Guess it's time to make a pot of coffee and dig in again!!!!

Need some monkey power - Here it comes -

JUSTICE FOR SANDRA


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2009, 02:04:44 AM
The Photo's Compared - that Klaas just posted

There are many similarities within these 3 men -

Hair line, Eyes are a dead give away - and folds of skin around the nose -
They all share the same hair pattern .. but how I see it within all of them is the Eyes and the sockets within the face itself.

Lane Lawless has a Hook Nose or what is otherwise known as a Roman Nose that is very prominent. He may have gotten that from his Mother ..

A hook nose is a elongated tip of the nose that lays lower - yet has nostrils higher
I have in my time found that Hook noses are more prominent within people that are of mixed races. American Indian, Black, Hispanic, European.

If the Lawless were as I see it from Washington or Northern Territories - they may have American Indian within their family tree.

Thoughts or mine -  I am not an expert. 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2009, 02:09:23 AM
 :smt049 :smt059

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/AngelSandra-3.gif)

 :sunny:


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2009, 02:18:59 AM
4getUnot -

I know this is very difficult for all of us to ingest the thoughts of mixed Ugh - religion and abuse and all. I have my own prospective for myself, and no I do not attend church. But that means nothing. I don't have to go to a place to worship who I believe in. My belief's are Mine and I am right with them.
Why I say that is because I have a video that is for Sandra

This Video I find is of comfort as I listen to this Song -  for Her " Sandra", Caylee and Adji ( Adji will be Found)  - For all the Babies that are lost, and or not with us right now.

http://www.youtube.com/v/jL6vw5xI0Bg&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x402061&color2=0x9461ca&border=1

Justice for Sandra, Caylee & Adji


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 02:31:17 AM
I need sleep, will work on this tomorrow but I think we are getting there, we just have to close in a few middle links.
gary d lawless, where is he.  and find the parents of this richard Ray lawles aug 15 1958. 
well off I go, my eyes are closing :smt015


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on April 30, 2009, 02:35:15 AM
Deenie

Thank you very much for sharing that with me.  I must say all of this seems pretty overwhelming at times but I do believe that if enough of us join forces we truly can make the world a better place.  I know that Sandra, Caylee are with God safe and sound.  I pray for Haliegh and Adji.  Children who go missing have been very much on my mind since the disappearance of Asha Degree on Feb. 13, 2000.  She was only 9 yrs old.  She disappeared from her home in the middle of the night.  I live in NC not but about an hour or maybe less than where she went missing.  I still look for her although now I look in the Jane Doe files to see if she may have turned up somewhere.  I have a passion about this.  It reminds me of the story of the good shepherd going to look for the one lost little lamb.  I feel that I have found a group that feels as passionately about this as I do and I'm glad to be a part of Scared Monkeys.  By the way, it's nice to meet you!!!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Deenie on April 30, 2009, 03:10:50 AM
Deenie

Thank you very much for sharing that with me.  I must say all of this seems pretty overwhelming at times but I do believe that if enough of us join forces we truly can make the world a better place.  I know that Sandra, Caylee are with God safe and sound.  I pray for Haliegh and Adji.  Children who go missing have been very much on my mind since the disappearance of Asha Degree on Feb. 13, 2000.  She was only 9 yrs old.  She disappeared from her home in the middle of the night.  I live in NC not but about an hour or maybe less than where she went missing.  I still look for her although now I look in the Jane Doe files to see if she may have turned up somewhere.  I have a passion about this.  It reminds me of the story of the good shepherd going to look for the one lost little lamb.  I feel that I have found a group that feels as passionately about this as I do and I'm glad to be a part of Scared Monkeys.  By the way, it's nice to meet you!!!
4getUnot - You will find so many different personality's within SM but the one thread that rings true within all of us - We all want the babies to have peace ..Justice.

I welcome You and for you to know about me .. I have many too within my life -Have never let go of the kids faces/names who were my age when they were put on the news as Missing, back in the early 70's - yet are still Missing, not found yet.  I live in Metro Detroit. When I was 6-9 years old we had a labeled child abductor that has gone down in history yet has never been found " Oakland Child Killer". I remember being in my house at night thinking he could get me.   

Your Pledge to the Little Girl You Stand For is Your Love and its Worthy.
Welcome 4getunot. Your now and have been since you joined very much a Monkey
 :smt049 :pr: :smt051



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 30, 2009, 08:14:20 AM
that richard R lawless you have aug 1948 is the very same guy I am researching now.
he is the one out of clarkston wa and lewiston ID and deer park mt.  he is the one I have listed with 3 charges of child rape in washington.  I am digging up a bunch of stuff on him and I found something I can't say.  we have to figure out who all this guy is connected to.  he also has addresses with JOHNSON names, can't find a dale yet though, but I ran into something really not good at all.  will not post it, but we have got to figure out how this guy connects to the lawless lines in cali.  

who is that robert you say he is related to?



DD, if this is something I can help you with, PLEASE do not hesitate to email me.  Klaas can send you my email address.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 30, 2009, 08:40:19 AM
Deenie

Thank you very much for sharing that with me.  I must say all of this seems pretty overwhelming at times but I do believe that if enough of us join forces we truly can make the world a better place.  I know that Sandra, Caylee are with God safe and sound.  I pray for Haliegh and Adji.  Children who go missing have been very much on my mind since the disappearance of Asha Degree on Feb. 13, 2000.  She was only 9 yrs old.  She disappeared from her home in the middle of the night.  I live in NC not but about an hour or maybe less than where she went missing.  I still look for her although now I look in the Jane Doe files to see if she may have turned up somewhere.  I have a passion about this.  It reminds me of the story of the good shepherd going to look for the one lost little lamb.  I feel that I have found a group that feels as passionately about this as I do and I'm glad to be a part of Scared Monkeys.  By the way, it's nice to meet you!!!

You're not alone 4getUnot.  We are all in this together.  In my entire life, I've never "met" such a cohesive, smart, energetic, determined group of individuals than those on this site.  Someday I'd like to buy you guys dinner.  And I can relate to your story about Asha Degree and Deenie's story about the Oakland Child Killer.  I live not far from where Cherrie Mahan went missing years ago.  She was a sweet little 9 year old girl that got off a school bus about 100 yards from her home on a February day and was never seen again.  That was back in 1985--and the case has never been solved.

I grew up in a small coal town in Eastern Pennsylvania before moving to SW PA.  When I was 7 or 8 years old, I was nearly abducted not 1/2 block from my house.  I remember it like it was yesterday.  I was playing red-light-green-light on my bicycle when a white car pulled up along side of me.  The car was a 4 door with three round red taillights on each side in the back.  There was one guy in the front driving and 2 guys in the back.  All of them were thin with dark hair, and the 2 in the back had goatees.  The guy in the back nearest me rolled his window down and asked me if I was okay.  I said yes.  He said I didn't look ok and that he should take me to my mom.  I said no.  He then asked me if they could give me a ride to the "top of the hill" because it was too far for me to go alone.  I screamed, started crying, the car door opened (at least to this day I think I heard it open), and I took off on my bicycle.  I was able to get away.  I was a lucky one.  Perhaps the worst thing that happened is that my parents never called the police.




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 30, 2009, 08:58:19 AM
Thank you all for sharing your inspirations for your advocacy. I was very moved by it this morning.
 
It also reminded me why we are working so hard on here and in other cases. Sandra Cantu's death was preventable. The sick and twisted crimes happening to "our" children are preventable to the extent we educate ourselves and others as to who is responsible and break the cycle. It is the only way. Caring enough to spend our time on here is the start.



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 10:46:37 AM
just ran into this while looking for something else

Nevada Marriage Index, 1956-2005
about Nancy L Lawless
Name: Nancy L Lawless  
Gender: Female 
Residence state: Washington 
Spouse: Nicholas A Pizzitola  
Spouse residence state: Washington 
Marriage Date: 19 Feb 1977
Marriage city: Virginia City 
Officiant type: Civil celebrant 
Recorded date: 16 Mar 1977
Recorded city: Reno 
 


I just found their daughter Monique born before 1986, possibily in Seattle,  to Nancy and Nick Pizzatola


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 10:49:11 AM
Have we checked for a record for Ein/Ian Lawless son of Jerry/Gerry and Luanne (fraud charges) campbell/warner/Lawless. He would be born before 1982.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 11:16:45 AM
Have we checked for a record for Ein/Ian Lawless son of Jerry/Gerry and Luanne (fraud charges) campbell/warner/Lawless. He would be born before 1982.

Other brothers are:

Kai Aaron Richard Lawless born 14 Jul 1986
Colt Lawless

we already checked Brynne last night and got his charges.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 30, 2009, 11:19:39 AM
Have I officially lost it or is there a John Floyd Thomas somewhere on here?
B


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 12:26:30 PM
1981


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 12:29:55 PM
Have I officially lost it or is there a John Floyd Thomas somewhere on here?
B

I have a Rich Thomason who is the stepdad  of Bill Lawless who is the son from the marriage of Wilma Toots Holt and Richard B Lawless (brother of Lane).   I really hope that made sense.  Not seen the serial killer name yet.



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 12:50:25 PM
Richard Birdette Lawless and Bette Jane Grimes had four children:

Child Four John Lawless married Ms. Shutt ( father Mr Shutt mother Ms. Halliday)
 They had 4 children

Child one male
Child two male
Child three female
Child four male

Chronology of John:

1976 played football in High School

1979 flys home to visit parents Betty and Don Johnson from North Seattle Community College.

1978 flew to Louisville Kentucky to visit John McCollum his former Bridge Port Teacher

1982 (Mar) Don and Betty Johnson are in Utah visiting and John who is attending school at BYU in Provo visited them in Salt Lake.

1982 (Dec) visits Brewster for 10 days from BYU in Provo

1983 Returns to parents home( Don and Betty Johnson) after attending BYU in Utah.  Plans to continue schooling during winter quarter.

1986 calls home at Christmas from Bangor, Maine

I loose him after 1986. Is this when he married Ms. Shutt and settles there to have his 4 children?
 I even signed into BYU site to search their Alumi.  For someone who went to BYU for so long and NOTHING to come up on him there is nuts.  It is almost like they wiped him off their site?

this one needs further searching.

I am going to go after  Richard Birdette Lawless first wife Wilma "Toots" Holt and marriage now.


I am bringing this forward as I found out more about John this morning and hoping that others can help with his search.

- He was on mission for the LDS Church from 1980-1982 in the San Diego area
- started at BYU Provo on Jan 6, 1982
- STUDYING TO BE AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER

If he went on Mission for LDS he must be Mormon.  That means his marriage to Ms.  Shutt would have been Mormon.  Not sure if this helps with finding marriage and children as I am not familiar with the Moron faith. Is there a central mormon birth announcement site that we can trace down the three male children that would have carried on the Lawless name?  I am guessing if they were practicing mormons they would have had the first child within the first year of marriage.

Edit-Fix typos.  MB


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 30, 2009, 12:51:49 PM
Have I officially lost it or is there a John Floyd Thomas somewhere on here?
B

I have a Rich Thomason who is the stepdad  of Bill Lawless who is the son from the marriage of Wilma Toots Holt and Richard B Lawless (brother of Lane).   I really hope that made sense.  Not seen the serial killer name yet.



lol, I suppose thats good news.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on April 30, 2009, 12:56:06 PM
G'Mornin Monkeys! ::MonkeyRoll::
Quick question:
Have you busy Monkeys ruled out California RSO's
Robert Alan Lawless & James Charles Lawless ?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 01:00:58 PM
G'Mornin Monkeys! ::MonkeyRoll::
Quick question:
Have you busy Monkeys ruled out California RSO's
Robert Alan Lawless & James Charles Lawless ?

Not ruled out yet.  Still working down the tree to get all the bloodline and names.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on April 30, 2009, 01:06:26 PM
G'Mornin Monkeys! ::MonkeyRoll::
Quick question:
Have you busy Monkeys ruled out California RSO's
Robert Alan Lawless & James Charles Lawless ?

Not ruled out yet.  Still working down the tree to get all the bloodline and names.

Hi NorRose!
Would it be helpful if I post their photos and info.?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 01:09:36 PM
Richard Birdette Lawless and Bette Jane Grimes had four children:

Child Four John Lawless married Ms. Shutt ( father Mr Shutt mother Ms. Halliday)
 They had 4 children

Child one male
Child two male
Child three female
Child four male

Chronology of John:

1976 played football in High School

1979 flys home to visit parents Betty and Don Johnson from North Seattle Community College.

1978 flew to Louisville Kentucky to visit John McCollum his former Bridge Port Teacher

1982 (Mar) Don and Betty Johnson are in Utah visiting and John who is attending school at BYU in Provo visited them in Salt Lake.

1982 (Dec) visits Brewster for 10 days from BYU in Provo

1983 Returns to parents home( Don and Betty Johnson) after attending BYU in Utah.  Plans to continue schooling during winter quarter.

1986 calls home at Christmas from Bangor, Maine

I loose him after 1986. Is this when he married Ms. Shutt and settles there to have his 4 children?
 I even signed into BYU site to search their Alumi.  For someone who went to BYU for so long and NOTHING to come up on him there is nuts.  It is almost like they wiped him off their site?

this one needs further searching.

I am going to go after  Richard Birdette Lawless first wife Wilma "Toots" Holt and marriage now.


I am bringing this forward as I found out more about John this morning and hoping that others can help with his search.

- He was on mission for the LDS Church from 1980-1982 in the San Diego area
- started at BYU Provo on Jan 6, 1982
- STUDYING TO BE AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER

If he went on Mission for LDS he must be Mormon.  That means his marriage to Ms.  Shutt would have been Mormon.  Not sure if this helps with finding marriage and children as I am not familiar with the Moron faith. Is there a central mormon birth announcement site that we can trace down the three male children that would have carried on the Lawless name?  I am guessing if they were practicing mormons they would have had the first child within the first year of marriage.
Edit-Fix typos

see this is how I do not understand this guy is "lost".  Mormons are required to do their family tree. they are the biggest genealogy buffs on the face of the planet !!!!

let me go do a search in LDS. 

brb


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 01:14:49 PM
G'Mornin Monkeys! ::MonkeyRoll::
Quick question:
Have you busy Monkeys ruled out California RSO's
Robert Alan Lawless & James Charles Lawless ?

Not ruled out yet.  Still working down the tree to get all the bloodline and names.

Hi NorRose!
Would it be helpful if I post their photos and info.?

Yes it would.  Thanks!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on April 30, 2009, 01:30:35 PM
Snipped:
http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov (http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov)

           James Charles Lawless
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/1869503803053.jpg)
261.2     PRIOR CODE-RAPE BY FORCE
288a(c)    ORAL COPULATION WITH PERSON UNDER 14/ETC OR BY FORCE/ETC

THIS SEX OFFENDER HAS BEEN IN VIOLATION OF REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS SINCE 09/26/2008.

INCARCERATED
Last Name:   LAWLESS      First Name: JAMES     Middle Name:  CHARLES     
Description    Offenses    Scars/Marks/Tattoos    Known Aliases
Last Known Address:    
County:    
Zip Code    
Date of Birth:    09-15-1953
Sex:    MALE
Height:    6'0"
Weight:    140
Eye Color:    HAZEL
Hair Color:    BROWN
Ethnicity:    WHITE

                Robert Alan Lawless
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/18607341L7603.jpg)
288(a)     ATTEMPTED LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS ACTS WITH CHILD UNDER 14 YEARS

LAWLESS      First Name: ROBERT     Middle Name:  ALAN
Description    Offenses    Scars/Marks/Tattoos    Known Aliases
Last Known Address:    201 W CALIFORNIA AVE # 321
SUNNYVALE, 94086
County:    SANTA CLARA
Zip Code    94086
Date of Birth:    09-23-1983
Sex:    MALE
Height:    5'10"
Weight:    160
Eye Color:    GREEN
Hair Color:    BLONDE
Ethnicity:    WHITE


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Sacsayhuan on April 30, 2009, 01:49:15 PM
I am bringing all my recent posts over from Blink On Crime to this site - so get ready !

Communication with Tracy Press:
A lightning fast response from Tracy Press - polite and genuine !!! I also send emails to the other press in the area this morning - nothing from them yet ~

Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:24 AM
To: Cheri Matthews
Subject: Timothy Lawless

The following website has been doing quite a bit of research on Timothy Lawless arrest and looking for a connection to the M Huckaby case. A question was possed and I thought the best way to solve the mystery was simply to email you and ask you. Is there a reason you have not reported a story on Timothy Lawless ?

“I too spent a lot of time on Timothy Lawless. It is odd that given the grave nature of his alleged offense, that the Sacramento Bee and Folsom Telegraph did not provide an article. Also Lawless, a former marine, IT guy who worked in major corporations, married to a realtor from a high class firm, on a noted softball team in Folsom, called Gayle Mfg. team, is not a marginal person, so some news coverage would have been expected.”

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/04/24/sandra-cantu-case-sources-lawless-relative-arrested-on-sex-charges/#comment-1482267

This site is now full - new site: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4964.280

From: Cheri Matthews
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 11:03 AM
Subject: RE: Timothy Lawless

As far as we know, and also from what the cops and jail tell us, Timothy Lawless is not related to Melissa Huckaby. That’s why there’s no story. If we found out they were related, we would report on it. But just because someone has the same last name as her grandparents and is charged with a grave crime isn’t enough of a link.

(I emailed back and asked if she would mind me posting her response):

No prob. I appreciate that you’ll let me know if someone finds something! Our sources may not know — or may not be telling the truth. Thanks!

Cheri Matthews
Editor, TP

Thanks for posting that. Jenn Wadsworth and I have communicated back and forth as well.
This is typical of local media.
B


NOW THIS IS WHY NOTHING IS GOING ON IN THE CANTU CASE PUBLICALLY !!!! (AN EMAIL FROM A JOURNALIST FRIEND)

“Ladies: Just one comment on the email exchange below: I can’t agree with J on her comment about the judge’s gag order primarily because it includes “potential witnesses”. As K explained it to me that means if we as journalist would try to interview a neighbor, whistle blower, just an ordinary citizen and they should talk to us, those individuals would be at risk for contempt of court charges even if they had not been noticed that they were potential witnesses.

This vague, all encompassing language enables any other charges past, present or future that might be brought against Melissa Huckaby and/or her extended family or “friends” who might also be culpable to be hidden from the public because of the Judge’s gag order.

It is my belief that the more information you get out to the public the greater the liklihood the truth will surface and the less likely the perps was stay hidden…………..Just a thought………..V.”

This is an email from a friend who is an attorney living near Tracy, but is no longer practicing. She comes from a legal angle.

“Thanks for posting it. I don’t mind. You can post all or some of it, if you feel like it, on Blinkoncrime, or on Scaredmonkeys discussion board re: Sandra Cantu — two threads there, the link between Huckaby and T. Lawless’ and a general link or on Insession discussion forum. Websleuths is doing a poor job in that they moderate out a lot of stuff re: alternative theories.”

It may be the FBI is behind or participating in the Lawless arrest, especially if it involves their jurisdiction: internet child porn, trafficking minors across state lines, or a kidnap or murder of am minor. The FBI can of course issue it's own warrants for arrest. In some California cases, the local authorities do an arrest for child porn and then the U.S. attorney takes over the case.  California State penalties for possession of child porn are moderate compared to federal penalties.

The FBI investigated the church in Washington so someone at the church must be involved with Melissa Huckaby, or someone there is involved with another suspect in the Huckaby case, or there is something in Huckaby’s background about being abused in the context of that church or someone connected to it.

Of course, if a church is involved in child abuse, then the door opens for investigation of cultic, ritual or Satanic aspects of the case. In the Catholic abuse cases, there was a cultic aspect ranging from outright Satanic stuff to priests telling altar boys that they had to shut up and put up or they would go to hell, etc. Also, there is speculation that Huckaby may have used church type items — a crucifix?– in regard to Cantu or other children or herself. There is also speculation that Cantu is an abuse victim herself, and the abuse may involved some religious ideas or persons.

There are a lot of cultic cases where people beat the demons out of
someone and feel they must do so and are justified, or must do so
to save themselves. There are some cultic cases where a person
is told they have a demon and are engaged in molestation or have
urges to do so, and it is not true. I personally dislike all this
demon type stuff, but it is going on, even in mainstream religions.

I think the defense attorney’s dropping his request for disinterment
and a second autopsy shows that the defense will not be agressive
in the early stages of this case. Because there will be no
second autopsy, who knows what could have been detected? Decomposition is already set in where Cantu is located — a mausoleum. Although the medical examiner could have retained specimens for the defense to analyze, that act would not compare to having the entire body available. The D.A. should have offered to stipulate to a second autopsy or at least freezing the body until the defense motion for the second autopsy could be heard. The defense motion was filed AFTER the body was taken out of the freezer to the funeral home.  So decomposition and embalming occurred marring potential scientific review. Essentially, the DA’s allowing the evidence out of the freezer destroyed a big opportunity for a second medical
forensic review of the case.

Now the DA’s opposition to the motion to disinter has been sealed sua sponte by the judge without a hearing or opportunity
for the media to file a request to unseal.”

ANOTHER EMAIL AND WORDS OF WISDOM FROM A FRIEND LIVING NEAR TRACY:

“It is a glaring coincidence at least that T. Lawless and Huckaby, face
similar charges, at the same essential time, and share a last name.

As of now, the efforts on Blink site have resulted in finding out that the Lawless family, has several sex offenders in its ranks, and is very connected to religion. Of course, one can say if any family is traced enough these types of connections or similar ones can occur. Soon, some report will be done by the Blink researchers which lays out all the Lawless Huckaby family history. Given that shrinks say molestation tends to be a multigenerational phenomena, this type of
data could shed light onthe Cantu case.

Whether or not a familial connection exists between Melissa Huckaby and Timothy Lawless — who knows.

Because Folsom, where T. Lawless lives is only a one hour drive to Tracy, and because Huckaby described herself on her website as a “party organizer”, and she appeared to have several male friends in Tracy, it is possible that this group of people knew each other. Note, no adult female friend of Huckaby in Tracy has surfaced that I know of.

What is really driving people crazy in this Tracy case is that no one
really believes that Melissa Huckaby acted alone. People also do not
believe the police who say she acted alone because, 1) they did not
put out an Amber alert that night, and 2) they did not put out bloodhounds that night. My God– what did they think Sandra Cantu did — hop on a bike and go to a bar? 3) the young cop handling the matter Cogburn failed to make a detention of Huckaby when she took the first girl and apparently drugged her in January 09.

Also the Tracy 60, covered by the Tracy Press on April 6 (no longer online, don’t have the article but has been quoted) indicated that Cogburn said that he knew of 50 or 60 people in Tracy currently using child porn and he didn’t have enough evidence to arrest them. There have been three big arrests for child abuse, porn, including the Tracy teen case in the last few months in Tracy. The feds ran Operation Valley Predator last year in the Central Valley and Tracy police participated. This flushed out some, I guess, but it may have made others more careful, and use unusual methods of procurements, photography, etc. such as enlisting Huckaby whom no one suspected of anything.”











Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 01:49:57 PM
Have I officially lost it or is there a John Floyd Thomas somewhere on here?
B

I have a Rich Thomason who is the stepdad  of Bill Lawless who is the son from the marriage of Wilma Toots Holt and Richard B Lawless (brother of Lane).   I really hope that made sense.  Not seen the serial killer name yet.

richard b lawless is the UNCLE OF CLL.   he is the brother of george w lawless who is the father of CLL
LOL pretty soon your mind just gets boggled.  I just got on here so I am pretty alert this morning, but by afternoon I am all scambled up too LOL




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 01:58:52 PM
quick note for everyone trying to sort this stuff out
I have the actual date etc and more but if have this it will help
the kids of all the children listed here will be the first cousins of CLL

parents
James H lawless – 1945 actually james webster, but records have him James H
married
nancy hanse rowland
1865 – 1945

children
Mabel Pearl lawless
1890 – 1959     
george w lawless father of CLL and Paul George
1892 – 1969   
 john mack lawless
1893 – 1965   
  Zina Ellen lawless
1895 – 1897     
William Bryan lawless m. gladys thayer
1897 – 1975     
Ralph Devere lawless
1902 – 1963   
 agnes lawless
1904 – 1976     
Richard Birdette lawless father of Gerald/Jerry and John Lawless
1910 – 1962


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 02:03:22 PM
Have I officially lost it or is there a John Floyd Thomas somewhere on here?
B

I have a Rich Thomason who is the stepdad  of Bill Lawless who is the son from the marriage of Wilma Toots Holt and Richard B Lawless (brother of Lane).   I really hope that made sense.  Not seen the serial killer name yet.

richard b lawless is the UNCLE OF CLL.   he is the brother of george w lawless who is the father of CLL
LOL pretty soon your mind just gets boggled.  I just got on here so I am pretty alert this morning, but by afternoon I am all scambled up too LOL



do you have anything else on this "bill" who is the son of richard birdette and wife toots?  I will add him to my data base and see if I get anything to match up


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on April 30, 2009, 02:06:50 PM
Sacsahuan ::MonkeyCool::
THANKS SO MUCH for your post....(didn't quote it in the interest of space).
That shed light!
  LM


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 02:08:56 PM
Have I officially lost it or is there a John Floyd Thomas somewhere on here?
B

I have a Rich Thomason who is the stepdad  of Bill Lawless who is the son from the marriage of Wilma Toots Holt and Richard B Lawless (brother of Lane).   I really hope that made sense.  Not seen the serial killer name yet.

richard b lawless is the UNCLE OF CLL.   he is the brother of george w lawless who is the father of CLL
LOL pretty soon your mind just gets boggled.  I just got on here so I am pretty alert this morning, but by afternoon I am all scambled up too LOL



Yes good correction thanks!  Maybe I should have another cup of coffee.  I am in the middle of a twisted mess.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 02:10:33 PM
  ::MonkeyDance::  WELCOME Sacsayhuan    ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 02:19:30 PM
Have I officially lost it or is there a John Floyd Thomas somewhere on here?
B

I have a Rich Thomason who is the stepdad  of Bill Lawless who is the son from the marriage of Wilma Toots Holt and Richard B Lawless (brother of Lane).   I really hope that made sense.  Not seen the serial killer name yet.

richard b lawless is the UNCLE OF CLL.   he is the brother of george w lawless who is the father of CLL
LOL pretty soon your mind just gets boggled.  I just got on here so I am pretty alert this morning, but by afternoon I am all scambled up too LOL



do you have anything else on this "bill" who is the son of richard birdette and wife toots?  I will add him to my data base and see if I get anything to match up

That is the tangled mess I working on right now.  Here is hwat I have so far and you can see the questions I have left in there that need confirmation.


William "Bill" Lawless

Stepdad Rich Thomason B 1944 -1953

Married

Linda McCroskey daughter of Windell McCroskey from Olympia (was Linda married to a Lawless?)

William "Bill" Lawless Step-Brother is Pat Kegley
Also has a step-sister from Rich and Linda born 20 Sep 1983 in Brewster

Is Pat from a previous marriage of Rich or Linda?

About step father of Bill Lawless


Oct 1979 Rich Thomason and Ed Tradup spent four days last week at Wendover, Utah attending Bonneville Speed Week.

Nov 1979 – Members of Our Saviour Lutheran Church in Brewster gathered at the Ed Tradup homr Sunday evening for an apple cider-making party and potluck dinner.  Guests also included Linda and Rich Thomason and family , who provided their cider press.

Oct 1981 Rich Thomason and Ed Tradup return from Bonneville Salt flats with care reaching 240mph

May 1982 Rich Thomason placed 6th in his class in the World’s Championship “Over the Hill Gang” motorcycle races at Moxee over the weekend.

July 1982 – Rich Thomasons and wife Linda take the Maverick Steamliner Brewster-based lans speed car to Utah salt flats
Aug 1983 Rich Thomasons family attends the Hot Rod races clocked at 125mph

Sept 1982 Rich Thomason and Ed Tradup second record attempt at breaking the land speed world record was washed out due to rain.  According to Thomason’s wife Linda the World finals were cancelled for the first time in 34 years due to heavy rain.

April 1983 Rich Thomason and his two sons Bill Lawless and Pat Kegley attend the Mattawa Desert 100 motor bike races

May 1983 Rich Thomason participated in moto cross races at Olympia over the weekend, winning 6th place in the World Championships for the Over the Hill Gang, the 30 to 39 year group.  The family visited in Olympia with Linda’s aprents, Mr. and Mrs Windell McCroskey.

Jul 1985 Brewster racing car Maverick owned and built by Brewster orchardists Rich Thomason and Ed Tradup reached a speed of 280 mph before going out of control and rolling several times.  Driver Thomason received only minor bruises.

20 Sep 1983 – Birth announcement – A girl to Mr. and Mrs. Rich Thomason, Brewster.








Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Sacsayhuan on April 30, 2009, 02:20:08 PM
  ::MonkeyDance::  WELCOME Sacsayhuan    ::MonkeyDance::

Thanks - am looking forward to the interaction !~  This site & Blink's are great !~


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 02:27:01 PM
Here are additional questions on the family that I have been keeping notes of through my research .  Would appreciate some help on these while I continue on Bill Lawless:

Vicki Lawless
Who is Vicki Lawless that becomes a math teacher in 1981 in Brewster and where does she fit?

Deidre Lawless
How does Deidre Lawless fit in with Carleen/Carlene Lawless?

Mar 1982 – Carlene and Sarah Shepherd and Betty Lawless attended the production of Alice in Wonderland in Wenatchee Saturday.  They also visited Deidre Lawless there.

Aug 1982 – Deidre Lawless of Wenatchee has been visiting here with grandmother, Betty and Don Johnson.. The Johnsons and Tom and Carlene Shepard went to Wenatchee last Saturday for the wedding reception of Jerry Lawless

Dawn Lawless
How does she fit into the Lawless clan if she is singing with Ethel?

Sep 1982 – Organist was Ethel Lawless , Dawn Lawless sang.

Lucille Lawless
How does Lucille fit into the clan?

1981 Lucille Lawless of Tacoma attends wedding of Mary Lynn Dowell Hill of Bridgeport and Bruce H Davis of Bridgeport






Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on April 30, 2009, 02:39:56 PM
Deenie

Thank you very much for sharing that with me.  I must say all of this seems pretty overwhelming at times but I do believe that if enough of us join forces we truly can make the world a better place.  I know that Sandra, Caylee are with God safe and sound.  I pray for Haliegh and Adji.  Children who go missing have been very much on my mind since the disappearance of Asha Degree on Feb. 13, 2000.  She was only 9 yrs old.  She disappeared from her home in the middle of the night.  I live in NC not but about an hour or maybe less than where she went missing.  I still look for her although now I look in the Jane Doe files to see if she may have turned up somewhere.  I have a passion about this.  It reminds me of the story of the good shepherd going to look for the one lost little lamb.  I feel that I have found a group that feels as passionately about this as I do and I'm glad to be a part of Scared Monkeys.  By the way, it's nice to meet you!!!

You're not alone 4getUnot.  We are all in this together.  In my entire life, I've never "met" such a cohesive, smart, energetic, determined group of individuals than those on this site.  Someday I'd like to buy you guys dinner.  And I can relate to your story about Asha Degree and Deenie's story about the Oakland Child Killer.  I live not far from where Cherrie Mahan went missing years ago.  She was a sweet little 9 year old girl that got off a school bus about 100 yards from her home on a February day and was never seen again.  That was back in 1985--and the case has never been solved.

I grew up in a small coal town in Eastern Pennsylvania before moving to SW PA.  When I was 7 or 8 years old, I was nearly abducted not 1/2 block from my house.  I remember it like it was yesterday.  I was playing red-light-green-light on my bicycle when a white car pulled up along side of me.  The car was a 4 door with three round red taillights on each side in the back.  There was one guy in the front driving and 2 guys in the back.  All of them were thin with dark hair, and the 2 in the back had goatees.  The guy in the back nearest me rolled his window down and asked me if I was okay.  I said yes.  He said I didn't look ok and that he should take me to my mom.  I said no.  He then asked me if they could give me a ride to the "top of the hill" because it was too far for me to go alone.  I screamed, started crying, the car door opened (at least to this day I think I heard it open), and I took off on my bicycle.  I was able to get away.  I was a lucky one.  Perhaps the worst thing that happened is that my parents never called the police.



I too am glad to have found this bunch of monkeys. I am in awe of many of you, your dedication is amazing. I wish everyone in my town could know how much time and effort you have devoted to finding justice for our little "Tracy Angel". When Sandra went missing it was pretty much on the heals of Kyle's escape, arrests of people for rape, molestation and/or child porn and I hit the roof! I fear for the children in my area and just want all of this to stop. Everyday I pass that mazalim where Sandra was laid to rest, every day I pass the house that Kyle so bravely escaped and I send a prayer up to God begging to keep the children safe.



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 30, 2009, 02:50:27 PM
A little information on a Robert Alan Lawless.  Not sure if it's the right guy:

Name: LAWLESS, ROBERT ALAN
Address: 450 N MATHILDA AVE APT E108
SUNNYVALE, CA 94085-4229
SANTA CLARA COUNTY
SSN:
 
Historical Person Locator
This data is for informational purposes only.
 
Finder Information
Name: LAWLESS, ROBERT A
Address: 450 N MATHILDA AVE APT 108
SUNNYVALE, CA 94085-4224
SANTA CLARA COUNTY
 

Person Locator 1
This data is for informational purposes only.
 
Personal Information
Name: LAWLESS, ROBERT
Address: 275 S 12TH ST
SAN JOSE, CA 95112
SSN: 617-14-XXXX
Reported Date: 10/2001
 
Prior Address
Address: 450 N MATHILDA AVE APT E108
SUNNYVALE, CA 94085
Reported Date: 08/2005


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 02:56:18 PM
A little information on a Robert Alan Lawless.  Not sure if it's the right guy:

Name: LAWLESS, ROBERT ALAN
Address: 450 N MATHILDA AVE APT E108
SUNNYVALE, CA 94085-4229
SANTA CLARA COUNTY
SSN:
 
Historical Person Locator
This data is for informational purposes only.
 
Finder Information
Name: LAWLESS, ROBERT A
Address: 450 N MATHILDA AVE APT 108
SUNNYVALE, CA 94085-4224
SANTA CLARA COUNTY
 

Person Locator 1
This data is for informational purposes only.
 
Personal Information
Name: LAWLESS, ROBERT
Address: 275 S 12TH ST
SAN JOSE, CA 95112
SSN: 617-14-XXXX
Reported Date: 10/2001
 
Prior Address
Address: 450 N MATHILDA AVE APT E108
SUNNYVALE, CA 94085
Reported Date: 08/2005


Ok that is just creepy now.  They are both from Santa Clara.  Could we have a father and son here?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 30, 2009, 02:57:58 PM
  ::MonkeyDance::  WELCOME Sacsayhuan    ::MonkeyDance::

Thanks - am looking forward to the interaction !~  This site & Blink's are great !~

Welcome Sacsayhuan! I see you have already pulled up a vine, great!
Do you still need to post the "doc" or do you wish to attatch it here?

B


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 30, 2009, 02:58:34 PM
Does anyone have the DOB handy for the John Lawless we're trying to find?  (the one that married Shutt?)


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 03:31:54 PM
Does anyone have the DOB handy for the John Lawless we're trying to find?  (the one that married Shutt?)

Sorry do not have it as a positive date but was abt 1958

I do know that Shutt's mother's maiden name was Halliday.

John and Ms. Shutt have at least 4 kids:

boy
boy
girl
boy


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 04:03:40 PM
okay let me jump back in here, have looked everywhere for missing john lawless. 
he's as hard to find and gary d lawless father of timothy. 

it seems the lawless' who leave the chelan/brewster area, go somewhere else and just disappear.  You have to wonder why.  Maybe they are running from the law or they are in prison somewhere?  or they just change their name.  Up into a few years ago it was very easy to change your name and be someone else.  we might have to start tracing them through their kids and see who just pops up out of nowhere always living with the family somewhere else?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 04:06:29 PM
okay let me jump back in here, have looked everywhere for missing john lawless. 
he's as hard to find and gary d lawless father of timothy. 

it seems the lawless' who leave the chelan/brewster area, go somewhere else and just disappear.  You have to wonder why.  Maybe they are running from the law or they are in prison somewhere?  or they just change their name.  Up into a few years ago it was very easy to change your name and be someone else.  we might have to start tracing them through their kids and see who just pops up out of nowhere always living with the family somewhere else?

Here is one who doesn't drop out.  THis is the step brother of our Bill Lawless - Parents Richard Thomason and Linda K McCroskey

April 2005 – Apprentice contestant has orchard roots.  Alex Thomason credits his farm background for training him for the real world and possibly reality TV.  Thomason, son of Brewster Washington orchardist Richard and Linda Thomason is a contestant on the hit series The Apprentice.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Sacsayhuan on April 30, 2009, 04:13:35 PM
REGARDING A PARTIAL LIFT ON THE GAG ORDER - an email from my attorney friend living near Tracy:

Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: Partial lift of the gag order in Sandra Cantu case.

“As of April 30 at 12:15 p.m, there is no news on the official
San Joaquin Superior Court website that the gag order was partially lifted. The original gag order remains in place. There was a news article that speculated that it would be partially lifted. Also the court has not emailed to the media any information about a partial lift.

It would probably take a motion by media before the judge to try to lift or modify the original gag order or the gag order on the document filed by the DA in opposition to the disnterment.

Unfortunately, once a judge puts a gag order in place, it is darn expensive in time and money to do the paperwork to try to lift it. And the media usually will have the motion denied by the trial judge and her judicial decisions will havfe to go up appeal to the California Court of Appeals with a writ application and if the writ is not denied summarily, which often happens, and the writ is actually reviewed by the court, the process often takes months to hear. This is so despite the fact the media usually requests quick emergency relief re: lifting a gag so that the trial proceedings don’t pass by in a gagged stated, before a court actually issues a decision one way or the other.

Public court proceedings are the goal of the California judiciary, at least officially, but in practice, sealing is rampant in all kinds of cases, often for specious reasons.

I see your posting at ScaredMonkeys, Blink, and co. I admire your activism.

It appears from the response of the Tracy Press that they did not dig into the Timothy Lawless connection to Melissa Huckaby, other than making a few phone calls to the official authorities.”

K



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 30, 2009, 04:18:09 PM
Does anyone have the DOB handy for the John Lawless we're trying to find?  (the one that married Shutt?)

Sorry do not have it as a positive date but was abt 1958

I do know that Shutt's mother's maiden name was Halliday.

John and Ms. Shutt have at least 4 kids:

boy
boy
girl
boy


That's fine.  The year will help me narrow it down.  Sorry I haven't been too active today--kinda under water a bit at work.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 04:19:53 PM
REGARDING A PARTIAL LIFT ON THE GAG ORDER - an email from my attorney friend living near Tracy:

Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: Partial lift of the gag order in Sandra Cantu case.

“As of April 30 at 12:15 p.m, there is no news on the official
San Joaquin Superior Court website that the gag order was partially lifted. The original gag order remains in place. There was a news article that speculated that it would be partially lifted. Also the court has not emailed to the media any information about a partial lift.

It would probably take a motion by media before the judge to try to lift or modify the original gag order or the gag order on the document filed by the DA in opposition to the disnterment.

Unfortunately, once a judge puts a gag order in place, it is darn expensive in time and money to do the paperwork to try to lift it. And the media usually will have the motion denied by the trial judge and her judicial decisions will havfe to go up appeal to the California Court of Appeals with a writ application and if the writ is not denied summarily, which often happens, and the writ is actually reviewed by the court, the process often takes months to hear. This is so despite the fact the media usually requests quick emergency relief re: lifting a gag so that the trial proceedings don’t pass by in a gagged stated, before a court actually issues a decision one way or the other.

Public court proceedings are the goal of the California judiciary, at least officially, but in practice, sealing is rampant in all kinds of cases, often for specious reasons.

I see your posting at ScaredMonkeys, Blink, and co. I admire your activism.

It appears from the response of the Tracy Press that they did not dig into the Timothy Lawless connection to Melissa Huckaby, other than making a few phone calls to the official authorities.”
K



Well we sure are digging.  Maybe they are waiting for us to finish?    ::MonkeyDance::   ::cartwheel::   ::MonkeyDance::  Hello Tracy Press!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 04:21:26 PM
okay

john calls home in 1986 from bangor maine
___________
richard ray lawless 3 counts of child rape living in clarkston/lewiston where the feds went to the other church, is married to Amanda

there is an amanda lawless who is in bangor maine.  I can't find richard there, but I do find an amanda there approx right age /within a year or so.  she is at some of the same addresses as Turner, Shepard and other connected names

john is the son of richard birdette lawless who married Bette June Grimes and also Toots.

we have the children of bette and richard as
son 1- gerald/jerry m. luanne(fraud) with child brynne(assault)
son 2 - "missing" john

what if richard ray lawless is another child of richard birdette lawless

could be from the bette marriage or the toots marriage
which wife was he married to first? 
it stands to reason that he could have a son richard named after him. 

if john is calling from bangor maine, and richard marries an amanda who lives in bangor maine with names like turner and shepard, it could be john and richard ray are brothers or step brothers. 

this is just a thought, but it seems plausible, I will keep looking




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on April 30, 2009, 04:27:19 PM
I think its important to note you wont find anyone on record saying there is no relation....
Why if someone talked to an "official" wouldnt they be willing to be quoted?


Jess- I think you are 100% correct. I eluded to that last night. In some cases there are tons with gaps, but with same initials.. a marker for that.
B


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 04:30:28 PM
The children of Bette and Richard were posted yesterday  as a recap:

Child 1 Nancy B abt 1946 married Nick Pizzitola (father was Charles Nickolas Pizzitola mother was Audrey Black)
Child from this marriage was posted today.  It was a girl Pizzitola

Child 2 Gerry Lawless married a Luanne Warner/Campbell (parents were Dean Warner and Ms. Wainscott)

They had Four  children
Ein/Ian Lawless
Brynne  Cole Lawless B 14 Mar 1983, Wenatchee
Colt Lawless
Kai Aaron Richard Lawless

Child 3 Carleen Lawless married Tom  Shepard (parents are George Leo Shepard b. 26 Oct 1910 Old Everts, South Dakota
Mother Violet Louise Olmsted B 20 Mar 1916 Pollock, South Dakota

Child one Sarah  Shepard
Child two Judd Shepard
Child three Terry Shepard
One of the above two Shepard girls marries a Theal
Carleen/Carlene Shepard/Lawless also comes up with a Mike Micheals.  Not sure how she is connected as of yet

Child 4 John Lawless married Ms. Shutt ( father Mr Shutt mother Ms. Halliday)
 They had 4 children

Child one male
Child two male
Child three female
Child four male





Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 04:39:45 PM
okay answering my own question... he married toots first

Richard Birdette Lawless (uncle of CLL)
1936
Marriage to Wilma Toots Holt
Seattle, King, Washington, United States

Dec 31 1945
Marriage to Bette June Grimes
Pateros, Okanogan, Washington, United States
(she later{june 6, 1965} married Donald Lafayette Johnson )

children of richard Birdette Lawless and bette June Grimes

Gerald/Jerry Lawless m. Luanne(fraud) - son brynne assautl
John ( calls from bangor )married Ms. Shutt ( father Mr Shutt mother Ms. Halliday)

________________

richard ray lawless - child rape  lives in clarkston/lewiston also
marries Amanda - there is an amanda lawless in bangor with turner & shepard names
also on his charges he is aka "dick"
__________
Name: Richard Lawless
Spouse: Amanda
Address: 1132 Bryden Ave
City: Lewiston
State: Idaho
 
Zip Code: 83501-5351
Phone Number: 208-Edit-No phone numbers please
Residence Years: 1998 1999 2000 2001


DEER LODGE, MT
LEWISTON, ID
CLARKSTON, WA

MARYSVILLE, WA
EVERETT, WA
MOUNTLAKE TERRACE, WA
LYNNWOOD, WA

Possible Relatives:

JEANBLANC, AMANDA MARIE (Age 30)wife?
LAWLESS, RENEE M (Age 36)
LAWLES, RICHARD
BREITBACH LAWLESS, HEATHER CHRISTINE

Possible Roommates / Associates:

MONTGOMERY, BRENDA KAY (Age 51)
I am sure this name is in one of the news articles posted on the board?

________________________________


I don't know if this is the right amanda who married Richard Ray Lawless -child rape

Amanda M Lawless  
Address: 394 Broadway, Bangor, Maine 04401-0201 (1993)
[200 Hancock St, Bangor, Maine 04401-1001 (1992)]
[407 Howard St, Bangor, Maine 04401]

I checked everyone at these addresses
last names I recognize are shepard, turner,

in house with amanda lawless in maine
Possible Relatives:

TURNER, GERALD E (Age 74)
TURNER, GARY J (Age 38)
TURNER, JULIA L (Age 73)
TURNER, JAMES E (Age 47)
TURNER, ANGELA A (Age 30)
TURNER, ALANNA M (Age 31)
TURNER, JAY D (Age 55)
TURNER, COLENE
TURNER, JOHNNA L (Age 30)


SHEPARD, KATHY C (Age 59)
SHEPARD, WAYNE L (Age 59)
SHEPARD, CHRISTOPHER S (Age 33)

HARRIS, CHARLES H (Age 67)
HARRIS, CHARLES H
HARRIS, C
HARRIS, CHAS H
HARRIS, CHARLES


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 04:39:48 PM
okay let me jump back in here, have looked everywhere for missing john lawless. 
he's as hard to find and gary d lawless father of timothy. 

it seems the lawless' who leave the chelan/brewster area, go somewhere else and just disappear.  You have to wonder why.  Maybe they are running from the law or they are in prison somewhere?  or they just change their name.  Up into a few years ago it was very easy to change your name and be someone else.  we might have to start tracing them through their kids and see who just pops up out of nowhere always living with the family somewhere else?

Here is one who doesn't drop out.  This is the step brother of our Bill Lawless - Parents Richard Thomason and Linda K McCroskey

April 2005 – Apprentice contestant has orchard roots.  Alex Thomason credits his farm background for training him for the real world and possibly reality TV.  Thomason, son of Brewster Washington orchardist Richard and Linda Thomason is a contestant on the hit series The Apprentice.

More about Bill Lawless' Step-brother Alex Thomason (there is also a picture of him on the link if you are curious):
 Monday, December 27, 2004

Alex Thomason, a 29-year-old prosecutor who grew up on an apple farm there, is one of two Apprentice candidates from Seattle for this upcoming season in which contestants demonstrate their brashness, intellect and acumen to win a job with the august real estate tycoon.

This upcoming season pits two teams against each other -- one whose members have impressive academic credentials ("Book Smarts") against a team made of those who graduated only from high school and yet have succeeded in business ("Street Smarts").

Alex is on the Book Smarts team. He holds a law degree from Seattle University.

The Insider reached him about The Donald experience, but he was tight-lipped.

His family, though, gushed a bit.

"Oh, we're just really shocked and thrilled," said Linda, his mother. "We're really excited."

Audrey, his 19-year-old sister, dropped some hints. "We're proud. I don't know what to say. We're not supposed to say anything," she said. "Let's put it this way: I'm not surprised."


http://www.seattlepi.com/business/205191_theinsider27.html



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 30, 2009, 04:45:00 PM
REGARDING A PARTIAL LIFT ON THE GAG ORDER - an email from my attorney friend living near Tracy:

Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: Partial lift of the gag order in Sandra Cantu case.

“As of April 30 at 12:15 p.m, there is no news on the official
San Joaquin Superior Court website that the gag order was partially lifted. The original gag order remains in place. There was a news article that speculated that it would be partially lifted. Also the court has not emailed to the media any information about a partial lift.

It would probably take a motion by media before the judge to try to lift or modify the original gag order or the gag order on the document filed by the DA in opposition to the disnterment.

Unfortunately, once a judge puts a gag order in place, it is darn expensive in time and money to do the paperwork to try to lift it. And the media usually will have the motion denied by the trial judge and her judicial decisions will havfe to go up appeal to the California Court of Appeals with a writ application and if the writ is not denied summarily, which often happens, and the writ is actually reviewed by the court, the process often takes months to hear. This is so despite the fact the media usually requests quick emergency relief re: lifting a gag so that the trial proceedings don’t pass by in a gagged stated, before a court actually issues a decision one way or the other.

Public court proceedings are the goal of the California judiciary, at least officially, but in practice, sealing is rampant in all kinds of cases, often for specious reasons.

I see your posting at ScaredMonkeys, Blink, and co. I admire your activism.

It appears from the response of the Tracy Press that they did not dig into the Timothy Lawless connection to Melissa Huckaby, other than making a few phone calls to the official authorities.”

K



He/she is spot on with regard to the gag order.  But there's a greater expense than just time and money--it's public outcry.  A medial outlet would be taking a very calculated risk if it moved to lift this gag order, even partially so.  The language of the order is pretty powerful and I'd guess that for every one person who'd like to see it lifted, there are many more people who are happy to allow it to remain in place to ensure JUSTICE FOR SANDRA and perhaps the many other children who may be saved when this all comes tumbling down--and it will.  Just think what the media backlash would be like if the order was lifted at their request and information was made public that either jeopardized the case, jeopardized the "bigger investigation" as I'll call it, or was incredibily inflammatory.  As they say in these here legal circles, "You can't unring a bell."


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Sacsayhuan on April 30, 2009, 04:50:08 PM
 ::MonkeyWink::

Hi Doubledecker !  You better be careful - you maybe called as a witness and be held in contempt of court !  Great research you and the others are doing in finding all the family members. 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 04:59:56 PM
Here are additional questions on the family that I have been keeping notes of through my research .  Would appreciate some help on these while I continue on Bill Lawless:

Vicki Lawless
Who is Vicki Lawless that becomes a math teacher in 1981 in Brewster and where does she fit?

Deidre Lawless
How does Deidre Lawless fit in with Carleen/Carlene Lawless?

Mar 1982 – Carlene and Sarah Shepherd and Betty Lawless attended the production of Alice in Wonderland in Wenatchee Saturday.  They also visited Deidre Lawless there.

Aug 1982 – Deidre Lawless of Wenatchee has been visiting here with grandmother, Betty and Don Johnson.. The Johnsons and Tom and Carlene Shepard went to Wenatchee last Saturday for the wedding reception of Jerry Lawless

Dawn Lawless
How does she fit into the Lawless clan if she is singing with Ethel?

Sep 1982 – Organist was Ethel Lawless , Dawn Lawless sang.

Lucille Lawless
How does Lucille fit into the clan?

1981 Lucille Lawless of Tacoma attends wedding of Mary Lynn Dowell Hill of Bridgeport and Bruce H Davis of Bridgeport






I dont know if this is the right deidre

Nevada Marriage

Name: Deirdre Lawless  
Gender: Female 
Residence state: Nebraska  
Spouse: Leslie Leonard Lawrence  
Spouse residence state: Nebraska   
Marriage Date: 7 Apr 1972
Marriage city: Las Vegas 
Officiant type: Religious celebrant 
Recorded date: 18 Apr 1972  
Recorded county: Clark 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 05:01:43 PM
The article is about Linda Thomason - mother of Bill Lawless.  All I can think of is Carleen Lawless 3rd child of Bette Grimes and Richard B Lawless (marriage 2).  I am loosing it, how do Charlene and Mildred Huckabee fit in?







Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Sacsayhuan on April 30, 2009, 05:05:02 PM
::MonkeyWink::

Hi Doubledecker and Northern Rose!  You better be careful - you maybe called as a witness and be held in contempt of court !  Great research you and the others are doing in finding all the family members. 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 05:12:05 PM
::MonkeyWink::

Hi Doubledecker !  You better be careful - you maybe called as a witness and be held in contempt of court !  Great research you and the others are doing in finding all the family members. 

 ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 06:05:37 PM
Here is what I could find about Richard Bridette Lawless first marriage to Wilma Toots Holt.  There are still gaps but I am putting it out there if someone else wants to dig into it. 

Richard Birdette Lawless
B 22 Mar 1910 Washington
D 26 May 1962 Brewster, WA

married 1926 Seattle , Kind, WA

Wilma (Toots) Holt

Son  William “Bill”  Lawless

April 1982 Was on Brewster team in the Ridge River Run in Wenatchee as bicyclist leg came in 42 place out of 133 teams.

June 1982 Chairman for Country Fun Run 

Sept 1982 – went to Bonneville Salt Flat in Utah to try for the World Land Speed Record with Stepdad Rich Thomason and Ed Tradup

First marriage to a Ms. Hammond
   Child one Male Lawless
   Child two female Lawless

Second marriage to unknown
   Child one Female Lawless
   Child two Male Lawless

Marriage 3 to a Ms. Pickett
   Child one Female Lawless

About step father Rich Thomason B 1944 -1953
Married
Linda K McCroskey B Abt 1949 daughter of Windell McCroskey from Olympia
Chilren

Stepson Bill Lawless
Stepson Pat Kegley
Son Alex Thomason b abt 1975
Son Adam Thomason
Daughter Amber Thomason b 20 Sep 1983
Daughter Audrey b abt 1985

About step father Rich Thomason

Nov 1976 – Between forty and fifty people descended on Rich and Linda Thomason at their new home at Maverick Orchards on Brewster Flat Monday evening.  The Thomasons recently moved into a new three-part mobile home. 

May 1978 – Linda Thomason starts childbirth classes in Brewster

Oct 1979 Rich Thomason and Ed Tradup spent four days last week at Wendover, Utah attending Bonneville Speed Week.

Nov 1979 – Members of Our Saviour Lutheran Church in Brewster gathered at the Ed Tradup homr Sunday evening for an apple cider-making party and potluck dinner.  Guests also included Linda and Rich Thomason and family , who provided their cider press.

Apr 1980 – The April Prayer Brunch for the Quad-City Christian Womens Club will be held at the home of Mrs. Richard Thomason on Brewster Flat.

Oct 1981 Rich Thomason and Ed Tradup return from Bonneville Salt flats with care reaching 240mph

May 1982 Rich Thomason placed 6th in his class in the World’s Championship “Over the Hill Gang” motorcycle races at Moxee over the weekend.

July 1982 – Rich Thomasons and wife Linda take the Maverick Steamliner Brewster-based lans speed car to Utah salt flats
Aug 1983 Rich Thomasons family attends the Hot Rod races clocked at 125mph

Sept 1982 Rich Thomason and Ed Tradup second record attempt at breaking the land speed world record was washed out due to rain.  According to Thomason’s wife Linda the World finals were cancelled for the first time in 34 years due to heavy rain.

April 1983 Rich Thomason and his two sons Bill Lawless and Pat Kegley attend the Mattawa Desert 100 motor bike races

May 1983 Rich Thomason participated in moto cross races at Olympia over the weekend, winning 6th place in the World Championships for the Over the Hill Gang, the 30 to 39 year group.  The family visited in Olympia with Linda’s aprents, Mr. and Mrs Windell McCroskey.

Jul 1985 Brewster racing car Maverick owned and built by Brewster orchardists Rich Thomason and Ed Tradup reached a speed of 280 mph before going out of control and rolling several times.  Driver Thomason received only minor bruises.

20 Sep 1983 – Birth announcement – A girl(Amber) to Mr. and Mrs. Rich Thomason, Brewster.

Apr 1986 - Amber Thomason wins in easter egg hunt for 0-2 age group

Jan 1999 Richard Thomason said his father made money on Red Delicious apples for more than 30 years.  No more, Thomason has pulled out his Red Delicious trees.

April 2005 – Apprentice contestant has orchard roots.  Alex Thomason credits his farm background for training him for the real world and possibly reality TV.  Thomason, son of Brewster Washington orchardist Richard and Linda Thomason is a contestant on the hit series The Apprentice.

April 2005 - In Brewster, Richard Thomason, one of about 2,000 apple growers in the state, welcomed the news. Some apple-packing lines have cut back on work, partly because of the apple ban, he said.
Feb 2009 - Richard Thomason represents farmers in the North Central Washington. After an engineering career, he returned to run Maverick Orchards, producing tree fruits, primarily apples. “I view the farm life experience as a wonderful character builder,” Thomason said. “I’m a strong believer in the strength it bestows on kids.”

"Exports are just critical. We don't have enough markets in the United States to take all the apples that we have," said Thomason, who also is a plant engineer with Brewster Heights Packing Inc.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 06:15:59 PM
I'll hop on the thomason branch in a bit, right now I am coming down the shepard line finding more info.  they end up in california in calaveras county and in lodi. 
this will take me a bit to get them together. 



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 06:31:58 PM
I'll hop on the thomason branch in a bit, right now I am coming down the shepard line finding more info.  they end up in california in calaveras county and in lodi. 
this will take me a bit to get them together. 



I hear ya!  I am going to work on how these all fit in:

Deidre Lawless
Dawn Lawless
Lucille Lawless
Vicky Lawless

and then see if there is a connection with the ones that Lonemonkey posted pics and info for:

James Charles Lawless b 15 sep 1953
Robert Alan Lawless b 23 sep 1983


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 30, 2009, 06:54:43 PM
I've got to run out for a bit--we're going to color some ceramics with the kids.  I'll be able to devote some time to research tonight.  If someone has an "assignment" for me, let me know!  I don't want to duplicate efforts.  If not, I'll use the time to work on my "letter" project.

Have fun. . . ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 07:10:43 PM
Name: Carleen A Michael
[Carleen A Lawless] 
Birth Date: Jan 1955
Phone Number: Edit-No phone numbers please
Address: Pob 617, Brewster, Washington 98812-0901 (1993)
[309 N 6th St, Brewster, Washington 98812-0501 (1988)]

at this phone number
 (509) Edit-No phone numbers please

MICHAEL, MIKE

 BREWSTER, WA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, CARLEEN A (Age 54)
 _____________________________



309 N 6th St, Brewster, Washington
MICHAEL, MIKE  
___________________________________________

all at this po box
617 PO BOX BREWSTER, WA
MICHAEL, MIKE
 

PATEROS, WA
METHOW, WA
BREWSTER, WA

Possible Relatives:

MICHAEL, MIKE
MICHAEL, NICK (Age 30)


Possible Roommates / Associates:

BAKER, RODNEY A
 


 BREWSTER, WA
MEAD, WA

Possible Relatives:

SHEPARD, JUDD (Age 28)
THEAL, WILLIAM


 BREWSTER, WA

Possible Relatives:

SHEPARD, SARAH A (Age 32)   

___________________________________


 

LAWLESS, CARLEEN A (Age 54)

Associated names:

 MICHAEL, CARLEE  
 MICHAEL, CARLEEN A
  BREWSTER, WA

Possible Relatives:

MICHAEL, MIKE


MICHAEL, MICHAEL T (Age 67)

Associated names:

 MICHAEL, MIKE
 MICHAEL, T
  PATEROS, WA
METHOW, WA  remember CLL went to visit step mother and they drove to Methow
BREWSTER, WA

Possible Relatives:

MICHAEL, MIKE
MICHAEL, NICK (Age 30)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

BAKER, RODNEY A



long shot guess
there is a vickie michael here, maybe she is vickie lawless? right towns


MICHAEL, MIKE P (Age 82) 
  EAST WENATCHEE, WA
E WENATCHEE, WA
CHELAN, WA

Possible Relatives:

MICHAEL, AFRODHITI (Age 103)
MICHAEL, PETER (Age 105)
WILLIAMS, VICKIE J (Age 51)
MICHAEL, JOANNE M (Age 77)
MICHAEL, THOMAS KEITH (Age 51)
MICHAEL, JO A (Age 77)
MICHAEL, LARRY E (Age 48)
MICHAEL, CAMILLE (Age 49)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

CHESTNUT, LISA DIANNE (Age 49)




MICHAEL, MIKE P

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

 MIKE P MICHAEL, DDS, PS
  WEST WENATCHEE, WA
 



MICHAEL, MIKE
 WENATCHEE, WA
Possible Relatives:

MICHAEL, JOANNE




 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 07:16:20 PM
Washington Births, 1907-1919
about Lawless Lawless
Name: Lawless Lawless
Birth Date: 10 Oct 1916
Location: Seattle 
Sex: Male 
Race: White 
Father's Name: John J Lawless 
Mother's Name: Helen Gertrude Warren 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 07:25:08 PM
okay diedre lawless is the granddaughter of bette june lawless, johnson/nee grimes
so she must be the daughter of one of bette's kids



 Bette's kids

Carleen lawless
Gerald d lawless
john lawless
nancy lawless

so she is a daughter of john or gerald, or she is the daughter of carleen or nancy BEFORE they were married.
or she married a lawless and has the name of one of the daughters' married names

LOL  omg am I confusing myself  ::MonkeyConfused::

let me think about this
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 07:50:39 PM
somewhere there is someone who had a "FOX" name, luanne?
I found a deidre lawless with a john j lawless who is in a household with a bunch for people with the last name fox.  she is in her 40's and in kansas  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 07:58:23 PM
Name: Carleen A Michael
[Carleen A Lawless] 
Birth Date: Jan 1955
Phone Number: Edit-No phone numbers please
Address: Pob 617, Brewster, Washington 98812-0901 (1993)
[309 N 6th St, Brewster, Washington 98812-0501 (1988)]

at this phone number
 (509) Edit-No phone numbers please

MICHAEL, MIKE

 BREWSTER, WA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, CARLEEN A (Age 54)
 _____________________________



309 N 6th St, Brewster, Washington
MICHAEL, MIKE  
___________________________________________

all at this po box
617 PO BOX BREWSTER, WA
MICHAEL, MIKE
 

PATEROS, WA
METHOW, WA
BREWSTER, WA

Possible Relatives:

MICHAEL, MIKE
MICHAEL, NICK (Age 30)


Possible Roommates / Associates:

BAKER, RODNEY A
 


 BREWSTER, WA
MEAD, WA

Possible Relatives:

SHEPARD, JUDD (Age 28)
THEAL, WILLIAM


 BREWSTER, WA

Possible Relatives:

SHEPARD, SARAH A (Age 32)   

___________________________________


 

LAWLESS, CARLEEN A (Age 54)

Associated names:

 MICHAEL, CARLEE  
 MICHAEL, CARLEEN A
  BREWSTER, WA

Possible Relatives:

MICHAEL, MIKE


MICHAEL, MICHAEL T (Age 67)

Associated names:

 MICHAEL, MIKE
 MICHAEL, T
  PATEROS, WA
METHOW, WA  remember CLL went to visit step mother and they drove to Methow
BREWSTER, WA

Possible Relatives:

MICHAEL, MIKE
MICHAEL, NICK (Age 30)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

BAKER, RODNEY A



long shot guess
there is a vickie michael here, maybe she is vickie lawless? right towns


MICHAEL, MIKE P (Age 82) 
  EAST WENATCHEE, WA
E WENATCHEE, WA
CHELAN, WA

Possible Relatives:

MICHAEL, AFRODHITI (Age 103)
MICHAEL, PETER (Age 105)
WILLIAMS, VICKIE J (Age 51)
MICHAEL, JOANNE M (Age 77)
MICHAEL, THOMAS KEITH (Age 51)
MICHAEL, JO A (Age 77)
MICHAEL, LARRY E (Age 48)
MICHAEL, CAMILLE (Age 49)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

CHESTNUT, LISA DIANNE (Age 49)




MICHAEL, MIKE P

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

 MIKE P MICHAEL, DDS, PS
  WEST WENATCHEE, WA
 



MICHAEL, MIKE
 WENATCHEE, WA
Possible Relatives:

MICHAEL, JOANNE




 

I kept finding her associated with Mike Micheal as well and not sure how he fit in.  I know one of the daughters married a Theal and I see you have a Theal on the list so we know that is either son-in-law or grandson.  Maybe the other girl married Mike Micheal?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 07:59:19 PM
if this is her she is all over the place.
but look at the age
nancy daughter of bette and richard lawless is born 1946
she is 63, so if she had a daughter at age 16, she could have a daughter who is 47 now, so this might be the right deidre, and be the daughter of one of bette and richards kids.   now being this deidre is back in kansas with a john j lawless.  is that our missing john lawless?


LAWLESS, DEIDRE E (Age 47)

Associated names:

 HARPER, DEIRDRE E
 LAWLESS, DEIDRA
 LAWLESS, DEIDRE
  BOWLING GREEN, KY

Possible Relatives:

LAWLASS, DONALD CHARLES (Age 52)
HARPER, ROBERT LEE (Age 51)
LAWLESS, DEEDEE
HARPER, BOBBY
HARPER, DIEDRE
LAWLESS, CHUCK



 LAWLESS, DEIDRE
 ALPHARETTA, GA   




  LAWLESS, DEIDRE M
  KANSAS CITY, MO   




  LAWLESS, DEIDRE M (Age 46)

Associated names:

 BIEN, DEIDRE M
 BIEN, DIEDRE M
OVERLAND PARK, KS
SHAWNEE MISSION, KS
LENEXA, KS

Possible Relatives:

BIEN, DOUGLAS C (Age 52)
LAWLESS, JOHN J
BIEN, J A

Possible Roommates / Associates:

WEICK, DARRELL WILLIAM (Age 56)
FOX, DEBRA KAY (Age 54)
FOX, DOUGLAS ROY (Age 54)
MULLIN, DANA J (Age 52)
MULLIN, JAMES RICHARD (Age 53)
CARRIGAN, TIMOTHY JAMES (Age 36)
 


LAWLESS, DEIDRE M (Age 46)
 SHAWNEE MISSION, KS

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, THOMAS F (Age 69)
LAWLESS, PATRICK M (Age 45)
LAWLESS, CAROLYN A (Age 42)




  LAWLESS, DEIDRE M
SHAWNEE MISSION, KS   



  LAWLESS, DEIDRE M (Age 46)
 AUSTIN, TX   


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Sacsayhuan on April 30, 2009, 08:00:05 PM
Your going to love this ! ::MonkeyLaugh::

Psychic makes claim to reward money in Cantu case
http://**/breakingnews/ci_12265572?nclick_check=1



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 08:02:15 PM
somewhere there is someone who had a "FOX" name, luanne?
I found a deidre lawless with a john j lawless who is in a household with a bunch for people with the last name fox.  she is in her 40's and in kansas  ::MonkeyShocked::

I have found a John Lawless on the missing list for Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans.  Right age bracket for our missing BYU John. Could he have been doing a mission down there and got swept away?

There is also a John Lawless listed on a New York wedding announcement for his son and it says wife Patrica pre-deceased him.  With last being heard from in Bangor this is as well possible.  Have not found a Patrica Shutt yet if this is the right one.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 08:06:51 PM
I've got to run out for a bit--we're going to color some ceramics with the kids.  I'll be able to devote some time to research tonight.  If someone has an "assignment" for me, let me know!  I don't want to duplicate efforts.  If not, I'll use the time to work on my "letter" project.

Have fun. . . ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::




Ceramics sound so much fun! 

Can you see what you can dig up on these.  I think I saw a civil suit and bankruptcy for Dawn in MI but it is all starting to blend together.

I hear ya!  I am going to work on how these all fit in:

Deidre Lawless
Dawn Lawless
Lucille Lawless
Vicky Lawless

Also any arrests for the rest of Luannes kids.  We know Byrnne has some charges so I am guessing the rest may as well.:

Ein/Ian Lawless
Brynne  Cole Lawless B 14 Mar 1983, Wenatchee
Colt Lawless
Kai Aaron Richard Lawless




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 08:11:40 PM
judd shepard and sarah shepard are the daughters of Tom shepard and carleen lawless.

I think carleen is married to mike micheal at one time?

that is what it is looking like it might be. 



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 08:15:54 PM
Deidre Lawless
Address: 11740 Red Mple Fst Dr, Alpharetta, Georgia 30202-0901 (1992

at this address is:

LAWLESS, JOHN J ATTY (Age 47) same age as deidre(are the twins?)

Associated names:

 JOHN, J LAWLESS
 LAWHIS, JOHN J
 LAWLESS, JOHN J
  HERNDON, VA
BRISTOW, VA
FOSTER CITY, CA
BURLINGAME, CA

MAYS LANDING, NJ
SHAWNEE MISSION, KS
KANSAS CITY, MO
PHILADELPHIA, PA
TOPEKA, KS
HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA
LAGUNA NIGUEL, CA
LENEXA, KS
OVERLAND PARK, KS

Possible Relatives:

CHEN, PENNY YIPEI (Age 44)
JOHNSON, JOSEPHINE H
LAWLESS, PETRICK M (Age 45)
LAWLESS, ROBIN M (Age 43)
LAWLESS, THOMAS F (Age 69)
LAWLESS, MARIANNE C (Age 66)
LAWLESS, PENNY Y
LAWLESS, Y
LAWLESS, LAWLESS P

Possible Roommates / Associates:

GARRETT, DRENA R (Age 63)
HIERSJR, JOSEPH M (Age 63)
WOLCOTT, TONYA J (Age 41)
EHRESMANN, KENNETH WILLIAM (Age 45)
CUDNIKLEFTRIDGE, AUDRA (Age 39)
GARRETT, CHARLES EDWARD (Age 61)


same address as above  LAWLESS, JOHN J
 OVERLAND PARK, KS
SHAWNEE MISSION, KS

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, DEIDRE M (Age 46)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

BIEN, DOUGLAS C (Age 52)

same address as above LAWLESS, JOHN J (Age 48)
 
LAWLESS, JOHN J KANSAS CITY, KS

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, CAROLYN H   maybe the wife?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 30, 2009, 09:30:40 PM
I've got to run out for a bit--we're going to color some ceramics with the kids.  I'll be able to devote some time to research tonight.  If someone has an "assignment" for me, let me know!  I don't want to duplicate efforts.  If not, I'll use the time to work on my "letter" project.

Have fun. . . ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::




Ceramics sound so much fun! 

Can you see what you can dig up on these.  I think I saw a civil suit and bankruptcy for Dawn in MI but it is all starting to blend together.

I hear ya!  I am going to work on how these all fit in:

Deidre Lawless
Dawn Lawless
Lucille Lawless
Vicky Lawless

Also any arrests for the rest of Luannes kids.  We know Byrnne has some charges so I am guessing the rest may as well.:

Ein/Ian Lawless
Brynne  Cole Lawless B 14 Mar 1983, Wenatchee
Colt Lawless
Kai Aaron Richard Lawless




I checked all federal bankruptcy court records for Dawn Lawless and came up empty.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 30, 2009, 09:52:54 PM
Deidre Lawless Bien

BIEN, DEIDRE M
BIEN, DIEDRE M
LAWLESS, DEIDRE M
LAWLESS, DEIDRE
LAWLESS, DIEDRE M(DOB: 12/1962) (Age: 46)    

10433 W 125TH TER
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66213-2171
JOHNSON COUNTY
(07/2006-Current)    Most Recent Telephone Listing 913-Edit-No phone numbers pleaseBIEN DOUG (07/2006-Current)

Most Recent Telephone Listing 913-Edit-No phone numbers pleaseBIEN DOUG (07/2006-Current)
12135 FARLEY ST
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66213-1672
JOHNSON COUNTY
(07/1994-07/2006)    913-Edit-No phone numbers pleaseBIEN DOUG(Current Listing Name)

12705 S MUR LEN RD STE A7
OLATHE, KS 66062-1200
JOHNSON COUNTY
(11/1983-09/2005)    Edit-No phone numbers please

101 UITE C CHILES AND CO
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66212
JOHNSON COUNTY
(10/1997-10/1997)    

11580 CAENEN ST
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66210-2728
JOHNSON COUNTY
(06/1992-01/1997)    

180 UITE C CHILES AND CO
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66210
JOHNSON COUNTY
(12/1994-01/1996)    

9200 INDIAN CREEK PKWY APT
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66210-2002
JOHNSON COUNTY
(08/1994-08/1994)
   
11580 CARMEN
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66210
JOHNSON COUNTY
(06/1992-12/1992)    

9320 DEARBORN ST
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66207-2422
JOHNSON COUNTY
(01/1988-12/1992)    

15406 W 80TH PL
LENEXA, KS 66219-1533
JOHNSON COUNTY
(11/1983-12/1991)    451-8747

9227 LICHTENAUER DR APT 31
LENEXA, KS 66219-2105
JOHNSON COUNTY
(01/1990-12/1990)    Edit-No phone numbers please

15402 W 88TH TER
LENEXA, KS 66219-1411
JOHNSON COUNTY
(10/1990-10/1990)    

10116 W 80TH ST APT
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66204-4724
JOHNSON COUNTY
(03/1987-01/1988)    

7939 W 115TH PL
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66210-2511
JOHNSON COUNTY
(02/1987-02/1987)


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 30, 2009, 09:59:57 PM
Here's some good info on where Deidre fits in:



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 10:00:56 PM
I am looking for Amanda M Lawless
Address: 394 Broadway, Bangor, Maine 04401-0201 (1993)
[200 Hancock St, Bangor, Maine 04401-1001 (1992)]
[407 Howard St, Bangor, Maine 04401]

she is most likely also
JEANBLANC, AMANDA MARIE (30)

she will be with
LAWLESS, RENEE M (Age 36)

I believe she is married
Name: Richard Lawless
Spouse: Amanda
Address: 1132 Bryden Ave
City: Lewiston
State: Idaho
Zip Code: 83501-5351
Phone Number: 208-Edit-No phone numbers please
Residence Years: 1998 1999 2000 2001

this is richard ray lawless aug 15, 1948




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 30, 2009, 10:01:09 PM
Here's some good info on where Deidre fits in:


By the way, that would have been August 1982


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 10:02:39 PM
Here's some good info on where Deidre fits in:



there it is, there is the mccartney name I saw and lost

I am trying to connect
MONTGOMERY, BRENDA KAY (Age 51)
to this mccartney


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 10:03:53 PM
harry and evelyn mccartney in the above news article
I am trying to connect the brenda in my above post
she is also connected to the amanda in my post before that


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 10:08:39 PM
I am looking in Maine for any trace of our John Lawless who called from Bangor and look what I found ....check out his age.  This is not John nor has anything to do with him as far as I can tell but interesting to see if he is a distant relative John was visiting when he called from Maine.

Individual Profile 
Gordon Lester Lawless SR
Date of Birth: 11/19/1924

Residence: Presque isle ME, 04769

Address last verified on: 02/13/2009

SORA #: 5115   
Out of State Sentencing
Statute: Second Degree Child Molestation
Court: Rhode Island
Docket #: W2-2002-0366A
Statute: Second Degree Child Molestation
Court: Rhode Island
Docket #: W2-2002-0366A
Statute: Second Degree Child Molestation
Court: Rhode Island
Docket #: W2-2002-0366A
Statute: Second Degree Child Molestation
Court: Rhode Island
Docket #: W2-2002-0366A


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 10:09:31 PM
Here's some good info on where Deidre fits in:


By the way, that would have been August 1982

Thanks Jess!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 30, 2009, 10:12:18 PM
I am looking for Amanda M Lawless
Address: 394 Broadway, Bangor, Maine 04401-0201 (1993)
[200 Hancock St, Bangor, Maine 04401-1001 (1992)]
[407 Howard St, Bangor, Maine 04401]

she is most likely also
JEANBLANC, AMANDA MARIE (30)

she will be with
LAWLESS, RENEE M (Age 36)

I believe she is married
Name: Richard Lawless
Spouse: Amanda
Address: 1132 Bryden Ave
City: Lewiston
State: Idaho
Zip Code: 83501-5351
Phone Number: 208-Edit-No phone numbers please
Residence Years: 1998 1999 2000 2001

this is richard ray lawless aug 15, 1948




Here's what I have:

BUSENBARK, AMANDA M
BUSENBARK, AMANDA L
BUSENBARK, AMANDA
LAWLESS, AMANDA M(DOB: 01/1974) (Age: 35)    
6257 WHITE PINE DR
MCKINNEY, TX 75070-9512
COLLIN COUNTY
(2008-Current)    Most Recent Telephone Listing 972-Edit-No phone numbers pleaseBUSENBARK SCOTT (2008-Current)

1400 N PARK BLVD APT 1205
GRAPEVINE, TX 76051-3066
TARRANT COUNTY
(03/2007-04/2008)    

394 BROADWAY
BANGOR, ME 04401-3930
PENOBSCOT COUNTY
(02/1993-02/1993)


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 30, 2009, 10:18:49 PM
More detailed info on Amanda Lawless is attached.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 10:22:35 PM
More detailed info on Amanda Lawless is attached.

thanks...this is her.

I am sooooooooooooooooooooo close I am going crazy over here, I can barely even type LOL 

I know they hook up I am just one name away


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 30, 2009, 10:24:39 PM
I'm thinking there might be 2 Amanda M. Lawlesses

LAWLESS, AMANDA M
JEANBLANC, AMANDA M
WARNOCK, AMANDA---AN ALIAS?
(DOB: 10/1978) (Age: 30) (DOB: 10/1978) (Age: 30)    

2933 MAGNOLIA ST APT 204
LEWISTON, ID 83501-4744
NEZ PERCE COUNTY
(02/2006-Current)    

2001 CEDAR AVE
LEWISTON, ID 83501-6135
NEZ PERCE COUNTY
(10/2007-07/2008)    
1132 BRYDEN AVE APT
LEWISTON, ID 83501-5351
NEZ PERCE COUNTY
(09/1998-03/1999)


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 30, 2009, 10:25:25 PM
More detailed info on Amanda Lawless is attached.

thanks...this is her.

I am sooooooooooooooooooooo close I am going crazy over here, I can barely even type LOL 

I know they hook up I am just one name away

What name do  you need?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 30, 2009, 10:30:23 PM
More detailed information on "Amanda Lawless Jeanblanc"



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 30, 2009, 10:34:14 PM
More detailed information on "Amanda Lawless Jeanblanc"


Note this one has the Clarkston, Washington and Idaho connections.::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 10:36:19 PM
brenda k mccartney
harry and evelyn mccartney


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 10:36:49 PM
Found a William Lawless In Jail In OK.  He committed rape in San Diego... ::MonkeyEek::

William Henry Lawless 
 

image 1 of 3  Next   
03/03/2006   
 
 
Aliases     
no known aliases
 
 
Offender IDs     
ODOC#:  806653
Date of Birth:  10/11/1950
 
 
Sex Offender Registration     
Status:  Active
Start Date:  04/23/2003
End Date:  LifeTime
Aggravated:  No
Habitual:  No
Level:  3
 
 
 
 
 Appearance     
 
 
White Male;  age 58;  5 ft. 9 in. tall;  200 pounds;  Gray Or Partially Gray hair;  Blue eyes   
 
 
 
Other Physical Identifiers     
 
 
Scar - Abdomen     
 
 
 
Sex Offender Registration Offenses     
 
 
Rape - Second Degree
.   County: San Diego.   City: San Diego.   State: California.   Date: 11/09/1977   
 
 
 
 
Addresses     
 
 
27701 E Admiral Pl., Lot 75,  Catoosa, Oklahoma 74015   US.   County: Wagoner.   Begin Date: 04/07/2009
Jurisdiction: Wagoner City Police Department.  Comments: Per Wagoner Co SO   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 10:37:23 PM
More detailed information on "Amanda Lawless Jeanblanc"


Note this one has the Clarkston, Washington and Idaho connections.::MonkeyConfused::

yes, I know who she is.  don't get confused haha. this is all fitting together and I should be able to tie this up here real soon


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 10:48:07 PM
MCCARTNEY, HARRAY L (Age 51)

Associated names:

 CARTNEY, HARRY MC
SEATTLE, WA
BURIEN, WA

Possible Relatives:

MCCARTNEY, JEANNE K (Age 45)
MCCARTNEY, HENRY L
MCCARTNEY, EANNE K (Age 45)

____________________

  MCCARTNEY, HARRY S (Age 80)
 SPOKANE, WA
HARRINGTON, WA

Possible Relatives:

MCCARTNEY, EVELYN F (Age 79)
MCCARTNEY, EVELYN

_________________
  MCCARTNEY, HARRY L
 RICHLAND, WA   

____________________

  MCCARTNEY, HARRY
 HARRINGTON, WA   
______________________

  MCCARTNEY, HARRY S
 HARRINGTON, WA   
________________________

  MCCARTNEY, HARRY L (Age 51)
 RICHLAND, WA
BELLINGHAM, WA   
____________________

MCCARTNEY, HARRY L (Age 51)
 BURIEN, WA

Possible Relatives:

MCCARTNEY, JEANNE K (Age 45)
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 10:50:16 PM
Came from washington and his charges are from Washington - resemblance is uncanny

Sexual or Violent Offender Search Details


Offender
Name: Lawless, Richard Ray
Offender Type: Sexual
Level: Non-Designated


Photo Date: 11/26/2007

Physical Description (Updated 03/22/2007)  Race: Caucasian Sex: Male Age: 60
Height: 5'11" Weight: 150 Birth Date: 08/05/1948
Skin Tone:  Hair: Brown Eyes: Hazel
Scars, Marks, Tattoos: 

Last Known Address  Primary Address: 742 Old West Mullen Trail 
City: Elliston State: MT Zip Code: 59728
County: Powell

 
Offense Non-Montana Statute:  Washington Rape Of A Child  Counts:  1 
Sentence Date:  09/24/1986 
 
Registration Agency  Agency: Powell County Sheriff Phone: (406) 846-2711

Registrant Information Updated: 03/24/2009 09:32:28 AM
Source: Montana Sexual or Violent Offender Registry



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 30, 2009, 10:56:00 PM
Came from washington and his charges are from Washington - resemblance is uncanny

Sexual or Violent Offender Search Details


Offender
Name: Lawless, Richard Ray
Offender Type: Sexual
Level: Non-Designated


Photo Date: 11/26/2007

Physical Description (Updated 03/22/2007)  Race: Caucasian Sex: Male Age: 60
Height: 5'11" Weight: 150 Birth Date: 08/05/1948
Skin Tone:  Hair: Brown Eyes: Hazel
Scars, Marks, Tattoos: 

Last Known Address  Primary Address: 742 Old West Mullen Trail 
City: Elliston State: MT Zip Code: 59728
County: Powell

 
Offense Non-Montana Statute:  Washington Rape Of A Child  Counts:  1 
Sentence Date:  09/24/1986 
 
Registration Agency  Agency: Powell County Sheriff Phone: (406) 846-2711

Registrant Information Updated: 03/24/2009 09:32:28 AM
Source: Montana Sexual or Violent Offender Registry



Good God, they all look alike.  Scary. 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 10:56:25 PM
Came from washington and his charges are from Washington - resemblance is uncanny

Sexual or Violent Offender Search Details


Offender
Name: Lawless, Richard Ray
Offender Type: Sexual
Level: Non-Designated


Photo Date: 11/26/2007

Physical Description (Updated 03/22/2007)  Race: Caucasian Sex: Male Age: 60
Height: 5'11" Weight: 150 Birth Date: 08/05/1948
Skin Tone:  Hair: Brown Eyes: Hazel
Scars, Marks, Tattoos: 

Last Known Address  Primary Address: 742 Old West Mullen Trail 
City: Elliston State: MT Zip Code: 59728
County: Powell

 
Offense Non-Montana Statute:  Washington Rape Of A Child  Counts:  1 
Sentence Date:  09/24/1986 
 
Registration Agency  Agency: Powell County Sheriff Phone: (406) 846-2711

Registrant Information Updated: 03/24/2009 09:32:28 AM
Source: Montana Sexual or Violent Offender Registry



this is amanda's husband
he is the one with the 3 counts of child rape


all these people are coming out of these same lines.  I know they are, it is just a matter of hooking them up. we are missing someone in the middle.  who? its somewhere very close to the richard birdette/bette grimes/johnson line.  its someone in there we are missing that hooks them.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on April 30, 2009, 11:04:59 PM
I got to call it a night.  I haven't been getting much sleep lately.  Have a good night.





Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 11:09:38 PM
McCartney comes from Mabel Pearl Lawless marrying Leland Haley They have a daughter - Georgia Pearl Haley - who marries Harry McCartney.  Their son is also named Harry McCartney. 

How is Amanda Connected?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 11:29:10 PM
McCartney comes from Mabel Pearl Lawless marrying Leland Haley They have a daughter - Georgia Pearl Haley - who marries Harry McCartney.  Their son is also named Harry McCartney. 

How is Amanda Connected?

sorry, had to turn off computer, the popups were scrambling all over and would not turn off LOL

ok amanda in clarkston / lewiston is the same addresses with  richard ray lawless the one with the 3 child rape charges out of washington.  He is also married to an amanda, this is most like her, or it is their daughter, but they have the same addresses. 

now there is an amanda lawless in bangor maine and all over who has in the same addresses, turner, shepard, names, which I am trying to tie to the turner shepard names with bette june grimes.  there are some of the same names in each one.
there is also a brenda k mccartney in the richard/amanda lawless houses in clarkston/lewiston one.  I am trying to see if she connects to harry and evelyn, the nephew of bette.  there is a john lawless in one of the houses of amanda lawless with the turner, shepard who is the same one in bangor maine.

I almost get them figured out then lose one and get distracted and then have to go back and compare again.  I found the match, then lost it when all the pop ups went nuts, so now I have to get all my screens back up and find it again ugh.  but I had it right there. I know it is there, but we still have to figure out which kid this is tying to in the bette line. 

let me find this again


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on April 30, 2009, 11:38:58 PM
these are tied to bango maine
TURNER, GERALD E (Age 74)
TURNER, GARY J (Age 38)
TURNER, JULIA L (Age 73)
TURNER, JAMES E (Age 47)
TURNER, ANGELA A (Age 30)
TURNER, ALANNA M (Age 31)
TURNER, JAY D (Age 55)
TURNER, COLENE
TURNER, JOHNNA L (Age 30)


SHEPARD, KATHY C (Age 59)
SHEPARD, WAYNE L (Age 59)
SHEPARD, CHRISTOPHER S (Age 33)


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 11:45:09 PM
MCCARTNEY, HARRAY L (Age 51)

Associated names:

 CARTNEY, HARRY MC
SEATTLE, WA
BURIEN, WA

Possible Relatives:

MCCARTNEY, JEANNE K (Age 45)
MCCARTNEY, HENRY L
MCCARTNEY, EANNE K (Age 45)

____________________

  MCCARTNEY, HARRY S (Age 80)
 SPOKANE, WA
HARRINGTON, WA

Possible Relatives:

MCCARTNEY, EVELYN F (Age 79)
MCCARTNEY, EVELYN

_________________
  MCCARTNEY, HARRY L
 RICHLAND, WA   

____________________

  MCCARTNEY, HARRY
 HARRINGTON, WA   
______________________

  MCCARTNEY, HARRY S
 HARRINGTON, WA   
________________________

  MCCARTNEY, HARRY L (Age 51)
 RICHLAND, WA
BELLINGHAM, WA   
____________________

MCCARTNEY, HARRY L (Age 51)
 BURIEN, WA

Possible Relatives:

MCCARTNEY, JEANNE K (Age 45)
 


This Harry McCartney could very well be the son of Harry McCartney and Gerogia Pearl Haley b. 1911 D. 1969.


Georgia Pearl Haley is the daughter of Mabel Pearl Lawless B. 1890 D 1959 and Leland Haley.

Mabel Pearl Lawless is the daughter of James W  Lawless and Nancy Hanse Rowland


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 11:49:21 PM
The Turner Kids that come from this line are:

Agnes Lawless
B 1893 , WA
D 10 Aug 1976, WA

married

James Levi Turner
B 1889 Missouri
D 1973 washington

Children:

Ruth Kay Turner
B 1922 Washington
D 29 Aug 1998 Soap Lake, WA

James L Turner
B 1923

Donald Dee Turner
B 17 Apr 1933 Washington
D 16 Dec 1963 Washington


I never chased these any further as I was concentrating on following the male Lawless.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on April 30, 2009, 11:52:58 PM
Based on the picture of Amanda's husband and his amazing resemblance of the Lane she marries into the line.

That means there are either two Amanda's or this one marries back into the blood line.

Could this get stranger?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 12:03:30 AM
Based on the picture of Amanda's husband and his amazing resemblance of the Lane she marries into the line.

That means there are either two Amanda's or this one marries back into the blood line.

Could this get stranger?

uh yes it could get stranger   :smt017
it is such a mixed up mess I think they do keep marrying into the same families back and forth, and I could swear I saw them marrying into their own family back there.   :smt107


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 12:08:08 AM
The Turner Kids that come from this line are:

Agnes Lawless
B 1893 , WA
D 10 Aug 1976, WA

married

James Levi Turner
B 1889 Missouri
D 1973 washington

Children:

Ruth Kay Turner
B 1922 Washington
D 29 Aug 1998 Soap Lake, WA

James L Turner
B 1923

Donald Dee Turner
B 17 Apr 1933 Washington
D 16 Dec 1963 Washington


I never chased these any further as I was concentrating on following the male Lawless.

I was not looking at them either but then I ran into amanda lawless in bangor maine with turner, shepar and a few other matches, I think I need to see if the same ones are over there or the same family


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 12:10:12 AM
Chasing Turners for you:

Agnes Lawless
B 1893 , WA
D 10 Aug 1976, WA

married

James Levi Turner
B 20 Feb 1890, Goodson  Missouri
D 1973 washington


Child 1 Ruth Kay Turner  B 1922 Washington D 29 Aug 1998 Soap Lake, WA

Ruth Kay Turner married Mr. Lester

They have a son who goes on to marry Ms. Slagle

Let me continue to get first names.

Thought I would thow this out in case the last names send off any bells.






Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 12:11:46 AM
Wyks it was very scary for me earlier today.  Was looking for you if you wanted to take another one for the team as I just could not do it.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 12:30:10 AM
Here is the story of James as far as I could track him.  The move to MO explains him dropping off the face of the earth.  Why he up and left is anyones guess.


James  Lawless
B 15 May 1865/1866 Rockspring , Patrick VA
D Nov 1945 MO

Oldest of 6 children
Moved to Indiana with his family
Moves to Tecumseh Nebraska met Nancy Rowland there when he was 24 married her in 1890
Moved his family to Wenatchee WA in 1904 and settled on Stemilt Hill
Moved up the Columbia River to Bonita in Douglas CO .  Farmed there.
Postmaster in Bonita from June 1912 to Fen 1915
1919 James left his family and moved to MO
His older sons moved Nancy to Brewster where George and John purchased an apple orchard.
Family took care of Nancy until she died on 7 Dec 1945 in Omak Hospital.
James died in MO Nov 1945 and is buried there.



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 12:45:52 AM
Here is the story of James as far as I could track him.  The move to MO explains him dropping off the face of the earth.  Why he up and left is anyones guess.


James  Lawless
B 15 May 1865/1866 Rockspring , Patrick VA
D Nov 1945 MO

Oldest of 6 children
Moved to Indiana with his family
Moves to Tecumseh Nebraska met Nancy Rowland there when he was 24 married her in 1890
Moved his family to Wenatchee WA in 1904 and settled on Stemilt Hill
Moved up the Columbia River to Bonita in Douglas CO .  Farmed there.
Postmaster in Bonita from June 1912 to Fen 1915
1919 James left his family and moved to MO
His older sons moved Nancy to Brewster where George and John purchased an apple orchard.
Family took care of Nancy until she died on 7 Dec 1945 in Omak Hospital.
James died in MO Nov 1945 and is buried there.



well the turner line is out of missouri also. 

also remember richard ended up 20 yrs old out of the house and a border with other families. seems like something went on.  I read somewhere, should have the notes, that james came back for awhile in 1938 for a few months and then left again.  maybe he went to prison?  why come back after 20 years, stay a few months and then leave again, and wonder who he went to live with in MO... did one of his brothers or something marry into the turners?  maybe they moved back there. I don't know LOL

why would a post master get up and just disappear hmmm

and did he take any sons with him? didn't john mack disappear? or did we find him?  gee trying to remember all of these people :gaah:


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 12:51:34 AM
Here is the story of James as far as I could track him.  The move to MO explains him dropping off the face of the earth.  Why he up and left is anyones guess.


James  Lawless
B 15 May 1865/1866 Rockspring , Patrick VA
D Nov 1945 MO

Oldest of 6 children
Moved to Indiana with his family
Moves to Tecumseh Nebraska met Nancy Rowland there when he was 24 married her in 1890
Moved his family to Wenatchee WA in 1904 and settled on Stemilt Hill
Moved up the Columbia River to Bonita in Douglas CO .  Farmed there.
Postmaster in Bonita from June 1912 to Fen 1915
1919 James left his family and moved to MO
His older sons moved Nancy to Brewster where George and John purchased an apple orchard.
Family took care of Nancy until she died on 7 Dec 1945 in Omak Hospital.
James died in MO Nov 1945 and is buried there.



well the turner line is out of missouri also. 

also remember richard ended up 20 yrs old out of the house and a border with other families. seems like something went on.  I read somewhere, should have the notes, that james came back for awhile in 1938 for a few months and then left again.  maybe he went to prison?  why come back after 20 years, stay a few months and then leave again, and wonder who he went to live with in MO... did one of his brothers or something marry into the turners?  maybe they moved back there. I don't know LOL

why would a post master get up and just disappear hmmm

and did he take any sons with him? didn't john mack disappear? or did we find him?  gee trying to remember all of these people :gaah:

Yes, John Mack disappears from the census same time.  There was a letter that was looking for money to pay for funeral expenses when he died.  The response did say he went back for a short time then left again.



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Wyks on May 01, 2009, 12:52:21 AM

For those wondering about Deirdre.....  I could be very wrong in this, but here goes:

Am thinking that Betty June Grimes Lawless Johnson had one child with Donald Lafayette Johnson, and I think that child is Monique. 

I think Monique had a child which is Deirdre.  I think Monique married a Mr. Ciccarone, not sure whether or not Deirdre is their child or hers with someone else. 

In either case, that would make Betty June fit as Deirdre's grandmother. 

I've seen Deirdre listed as a Johnson, Lawless and Gibbs.  Have also seen her first name spelled Diedra. 

 ::MonkeyConfused::
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 12:52:54 AM
I find these with richard ray lawless the child rapist

JOHNSON, BERNICE L (Age 79)
JOHNSON, ERNEST W (Age 103)
JOHNSON, NANCY M (Age 43)
JOHNSON, HOWARD A (Age 69)
JOHNSON, CLAYTON W (Age 71)
JOHNSON, CLIFFORD D (Age 63)
JOHNSON, CAROL J (Age 62)
JOHNSON, WILLIAM

also with RRL/CR (richard ray lawless/child rapist) is
melanie lawlessthere is also a melanie colene turner
TURNER, DAVID T (Age 39)
TURNER, MELANIE COLLEEN (Age 39)


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 12:53:15 AM
I need some census data pulled if at all possible:

Looking for Walter R Lawless B. 2 Dec 1889, Indiana

Married - 2 Jun 1902 Miami County, Indiana

Evalena Housouer




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 12:54:31 AM

For those wondering about Deirdre.....  I could be very wrong in this, but here goes:

Am thinking that Betty June Grimes Lawless Johnson had one child with Donald Lafayette Johnson, and I think that child is Monique. 

I think Monique had a child which is Deirdre.  I think Monique married a Mr. Ciccarone, not sure whether or not Deirdre is their child or hers with someone else. 

In either case, that would make Betty June fit as Deirdre's grandmother. 

I've seen Deirdre listed as a Johnson, Lawless and Gibbs.  Have also seen her first name spelled Diedra. 

 ::MonkeyConfused::
 

oh I have a gibbs somewhere, let me find it.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Wyks on May 01, 2009, 12:55:38 AM
Wyks it was very scary for me earlier today.  Was looking for you if you wanted to take another one for the team as I just could not do it.

Oh really?  What's up?  I'll help where I can!   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 12:57:20 AM
I have
GIBBS, MARK L
as a relative in the household of amanda lawless in bangor maine
probably nothing but making a note of it


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 12:58:41 AM

For those wondering about Deirdre.....  I could be very wrong in this, but here goes:

Am thinking that Betty June Grimes Lawless Johnson had one child with Donald Lafayette Johnson, and I think that child is Monique. 

I think Monique had a child which is Deirdre.  I think Monique married a Mr. Ciccarone, not sure whether or not Deirdre is their child or hers with someone else. 

In either case, that would make Betty June fit as Deirdre's grandmother. 

I've seen Deirdre listed as a Johnson, Lawless and Gibbs.  Have also seen her first name spelled Diedra. 

 ::MonkeyConfused::
 

OMG this would fit.  I have not looked for kids between Bette and Donald Johnson. 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 01:02:04 AM
Wyks it was very scary for me earlier today.  Was looking for you if you wanted to take another one for the team as I just could not do it.

Oh really?  What's up?  I'll help where I can!   ::MonkeyWink::


I was hunting down one of the disappearing Lawless men, and when I clicked on the link my computer stopped me saying content was of an explicit nature.  I was not going any further.  I am not sure that I even kept that link.  Think I washed my fingers and eyes just for precautionary measures.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 01:04:17 AM
I need some census data pulled if at all possible:

Looking for Walter R Lawless B. 2 Dec 1889, Indiana

Married - 2 Jun 1902 Miami County, Indiana

Evalena Housouer




1880 United States Federal Census
about Walter R. Lawless
Name: Walter R. Lawless
Home in 1880: Jackson, Cass, Indiana
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Birthplace: Indiana
Relation to head-of-household: Son
Father's Name: Mc. A.
Father's birthplace: Virginia
Mother's Name: Sarah A.
Mother's birthplace: Indiana
Neighbors: View others on page 
Occupation: At Home
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane: View Image
Household Members: Name Age
Mc. A. Lawless 34 
Sarah A. Lawless 39 
James H. Lawless 14 
Minnie M. Lawless 10 
Walter R. Lawless 7 
Franklin C. Lawless 2 
George Nicholes 61 
Mary Nicholes 59 
William E. Nicholes 27 
Peter Nicholes 25 
Elisabeth Nicholes 20 
Sameul Nicholes 16 
Noah Nicholes 14 
Franklin Nicholes 12 
 
 
1920 United States Federal Census
about Walter R Lawless
Name: Walter R Lawless
Home in 1920: Dunkirk Ward 4, Chautauqua, New York
Age: 47 years 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Birthplace: Indiana
Relation to Head-of-house: Boarder 
Father's Birth Place: Virginia 
Mother's Birth Place: Ohio 
Marital Status: Married 
Race: White
Sex: Male
Able to read: Yes 
Able to Write: Yes 
Image: 928 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Emma Blanchard 58 
Celia Blanchard 24 
Mildred Hazen 18 
Walter R Lawless 47 
 
 
1930 United States Federal Census
about Walter R Lawliss
Name: Walter R Lawliss
Home in 1930: Dunkirk, Chautauqua, New York
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 
Birthplace: Indiana 
Relation to Head-of-house: Roomer 
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Paul Nieder 66 
Barbara Nieder 66 
Walter R Lawliss 57 
 
 
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Walter Raleigh Lawless
Name: Walter Raleigh Lawless
County: Chautauqua 
State: New York 
Birth Date: 28 Oct 1872
Race: White 
Roll: 1712292 
DraftBoard: 1 
 
Indiana Marriage Collection, 1800-1941
about Walter R Lawless
Name: Walter R Lawless
Spouse Name: Evalena Housouer
Marriage Date: 2 Jun 1902
Marriage County: Miami 
Estimated Birth Year: 1873 
Age: 29 
Source Title 1: Miami County, Indiana 
Source Title 2: Index to Marriage Record 1850-1920 Inclusive Volum 
Source Title 3: Original Record Located County Clerks Office, Peru 
 

death may 1945
indiapolis, marion, indiana




2 Jun 1902
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Wyks on May 01, 2009, 01:06:57 AM
Wyks it was very scary for me earlier today.  Was looking for you if you wanted to take another one for the team as I just could not do it.

Oh really?  What's up?  I'll help where I can!   ::MonkeyWink::


I was hunting down one of the disappearing Lawless men, and when I clicked on the link my computer stopped me saying content was of an explicit nature.  I was not going any further.  I am not sure that I even kept that link.  Think I washed my fingers and eyes just for precautionary measures.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  I can understand why!  Well, if you run across it again, lemme know, I can take it.  I've become immune to all that stuff.  heeeeeee 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 01:08:03 AM
wife dies in cali

California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Evalena Lawless
Name: Evalena Lawless
[Evalena Housover] 
Social Security #: 0 
Sex: FEMALE 
Birth Date: 2 Nov 1883
Birthplace: Indiana 
Death Date: 23 Apr 1940
Death Place: Los Angeles 
 
Mother's Maiden Name: Weever 
Father's Surname: Housover 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 01:12:08 AM
wife dies in cali

California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Evalena Lawless
Name: Evalena Lawless
[Evalena Housover] 
Social Security #: 0 
Sex: FEMALE 
Birth Date: 2 Nov 1883
Birthplace: Indiana 
Death Date: 23 Apr 1940
Death Place: Los Angeles 
 
Mother's Maiden Name: Weever 
Father's Surname: Housover 
 


Here we go again.  Another male that leaves his family......


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 01:14:42 AM
"Idiotic or insane: View Image"

was there really an image to view?  Now I am curious    ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Wyks on May 01, 2009, 01:16:03 AM

Anyone know about how old this Deirdre would be?  And do we have a Kansas Lawless? 

LAWLESS, DEIDRE   M
Age: 46

Associated names:
BIEN, DEIDRE M
BIEN, DIEDRE M

OVERLAND PARK, KS
SHAWNEE MISSION, KS
LENEXA, KS

      
    * BIEN, DOUGLAS  C (Age 52)
    * LAWLESS, JOHN  J
    * BIEN, J  A



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 01:16:59 AM
bette june grimes/lawless/johnson
she was 22 when she married lawless
she was 42 when she married johnson

it's possible she had a child at 42, but not common in 1965?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 01:23:00 AM
can we see where
Name: Evalena Lawless
[Evalena Housover] 

ends up on the census between the time Walter heads to New York and she dies in Cali?

Hoping to find soem Lawless kids with her if he took off.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Wyks on May 01, 2009, 01:23:34 AM

Do you guys remember this post from another monkey earlier on?? 



I don't recall this business info Timothy Lawless

 http://www.spoke.com/info/pXM5Ghp/TimLawless

Tim Lawless This is me
Chase Paymentech Solutions
15446 Bel Red Road 330
Redmond, WA 98052-5507      Send E-mail
  Get More Info   
Has this info changed?
Not Tim? Claim your own profile
Tim Lawless's Colleagues
1,323 contacts at Chase Paymentech Solutions

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Executive Vice President
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Don and Betty Johnson have a daughter named Monique and a granddaughter named Diedra

This links him to them if only in aquaintance but I have a feeling it's more.



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 01:24:21 AM

Anyone know about how old this Deirdre would be?  And do we have a Kansas Lawless? 

LAWLESS, DEIDRE   M
Age: 46

Associated names:
BIEN, DEIDRE M
BIEN, DIEDRE M

OVERLAND PARK, KS
SHAWNEE MISSION, KS
LENEXA, KS

      
    * BIEN, DOUGLAS  C (Age 52)
    * LAWLESS, JOHN  J
    * BIEN, J  A



No on age, Yes on Kansas


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 01:25:45 AM
LAWLESS, DEIDRE M (Age 46)
SHAWNEE MISSION, KS

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, THOMAS F (Age 69)
LAWLESS, PATRICK M (Age 45)
LAWLESS, CAROLYN A (Age 42)

LAWLESS, DEIDRE M (Age 46)


Associated names:

BIEN, DEIDRE M
BIEN, DIEDRE M
OVERLAND PARK, KS
SHAWNEE MISSION, KS
LENEXA, KS

Possible Relatives:

BIEN, DOUGLAS C (Age 52)
LAWLESS, JOHN J
BIEN, J A

Possible Roommates / Associates:

WEICK, DARRELL WILLIAM (Age 56)
FOX, DEBRA KAY (Age 54)
FOX, DOUGLAS ROY (Age 54)
MULLIN, DANA J (Age 52)
MULLIN, JAMES RICHARD (Age 53)
CARRIGAN, TIMOTHY JAMES (Age 36)

LAWLESS, JOHN J ATTY (Age 47)  

Associated names:

JOHN, J LAWLESS
LAWHIS, JOHN J
LAWLESS, JOHN J

HERNDON, VA
BRISTOW, VA
FOSTER CITY, CA
BURLINGAME, CA
MAYS LANDING, NJ
SHAWNEE MISSION, KS
KANSAS CITY, MO
PHILADELPHIA, PA
TOPEKA, KS
HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA
LAGUNA NIGUEL, CA
LENEXA, KS
OVERLAND PARK, KS

Possible Relatives:

CHEN, PENNY YIPEI (Age 44)
JOHNSON, JOSEPHINE H
LAWLESS, PETRICK M (Age 45)
LAWLESS, ROBIN M (Age 43)
LAWLESS, THOMAS F (Age 69)
LAWLESS, MARIANNE C (Age 66)
LAWLESS, PENNY Y
LAWLESS, Y
LAWLESS, LAWLESS P


Possible Roommates / Associates:

GARRETT, DRENA R (Age 63)
HIERS JR, JOSEPH M (Age 63)
WOLCOTT, TONYA J (Age 41)
EHRESMANN, KENNETH WILLIAM (Age 45)
CUDNIKLEFTRIDGE, AUDRA (Age 39)
GARRETT, CHARLES EDWARD (Age 61)




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 01:26:50 AM
nancy daughter of bette and richard lawless is born 1946
she is 63, so if she had a daughter at age 16, she could have a daughter who is 47 now, so this might be the right deidre, and be the daughter of one of bette and richards kids. now being this deidre is back in kansas with a john j lawless. is that our missing john lawless?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 01:28:20 AM
nancy daughter of bette and richard lawless is born 1946
she is 63, so if she had a daughter at age 16, she could have a daughter who is 47 now, so this might be the right deidre, and be the daughter of one of bette and richards kids. now being this deidre is back in kansas with a john j lawless. is that our missing john lawless?


only of that John is an electrical engineer or into electronics.  If he is we have a winner!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 01:31:42 AM
nancy daughter of bette and richard lawless is born 1946
she is 63, so if she had a daughter at age 16, she could have a daughter who is 47 now, so this might be the right deidre, and be the daughter of one of bette and richards kids. now being this deidre is back in kansas with a john j lawless. is that our missing john lawless?


only of that John is an electrical engineer or into electronics.  If he is we have a winner!

Our missing John was in his Senior Year in High School in 1976.  Assume he was 18 that would make his DOB abt 1958. He would be 50 - 51 today.  Could he have graduated at age 14 to make him 47?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 01:47:02 AM
he leaves in the draft
she stays
he is still in ny on 1930 census
she dies in los angeles in 1940
she is in indiana census 1939, but she could have left as early as 1921, and still be on the 1930 census. 

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918  
about Walter Raleigh Lawless
Name: Walter Raleigh Lawless
County: Chautauqua 
State: New York  

Name: Walter R Lawless
Home in 1920: Dunkirk Ward 4, Chautauqua, New York  
Relation to Head-of-house: Boarder   

1930 United States Federal Census 
Name: Lena Lawless
Home in 1930: Indianapolis, Marion, Indiana


Death Date: 23 Apr 1940  
Death Place: Los Angeles   

 







Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 01:49:46 AM
ooops above should read
she is in indiana census 1930, but she could have left as early as 1921, and still be on the 1930 census.

i had typed 1939


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 01:51:15 AM
nancy daughter of bette and richard lawless is born 1946
she is 63, so if she had a daughter at age 16, she could have a daughter who is 47 now, so this might be the right deidre, and be the daughter of one of bette and richards kids. now being this deidre is back in kansas with a john j lawless. is that our missing john lawless?


only of that John is an electrical engineer or into electronics.  If he is we have a winner!

Our missing John was in his Senior Year in High School in 1976.  Assume he was 18 that would make his DOB abt 1958. He would be 50 - 51 today.  Could he have graduated at age 14 to make him 47?

he probably did not graduate that young hmmm
but those data bases can be a few years off


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 01:52:32 AM
ooops above should read
she is in indiana census 1930, but she could have left as early as 1921, and still be on the 1930 census.

i had typed 1939

Thanks for the update I was wondering about that.  So no kids showing. What a shame.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 01:56:30 AM
hmmm she is also listed as deidre harper

LAWLESS, DEIDRE E (Age 47)

Associated names:

HARPER, DEIRDRE E
LAWLESS, DEIDRA
LAWLESS, DEIDRE
BOWLING GREEN, KY


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 02:04:19 AM
Going to bed.  Stuck on the next one as well without a census.

Franklin C Lawless
B  1878 Indiana
D 26 Sep 1938/39

Married 12 Jan 1901

Margaret A Blue


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 02:19:12 AM
donald lafayette johnson had another wife, last name garner
her father is dale crandall garer
she and donald have 5 living children
if they named one of the boys after her father, then we have a dale johnson

let me go try to find birth records


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Wyks on May 01, 2009, 02:53:26 AM
Sorry to leave so abruptly.  My sons decided to reposition the router.   Took over an hour to get hooked up and back online when that didn't work.   ::MonkeyRoll::

*note to self .. lock up router, swallow key*

 ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Wyks on May 01, 2009, 02:55:34 AM
donald lafayette johnson had another wife, last name garner
her father is dale crandall garer
she and donald have 5 living children
if they named one of the boys after her father, then we have a dale johnson

let me go try to find birth records

 ::MonkeyEek::   



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on May 01, 2009, 08:03:13 AM

Anyone know about how old this Deirdre would be?  And do we have a Kansas Lawless? 

LAWLESS, DEIDRE   M
Age: 46

Associated names:
BIEN, DEIDRE M
BIEN, DIEDRE M

OVERLAND PARK, KS
SHAWNEE MISSION, KS
LENEXA, KS

      
    * BIEN, DOUGLAS  C (Age 52)
    * LAWLESS, JOHN  J
    * BIEN, J  A



Wyks, from my earlier post:

Deidre Lawless Bien

BIEN, DEIDRE M
BIEN, DIEDRE M
LAWLESS, DEIDRE M
LAWLESS, DEIDRE
LAWLESS, DIEDRE M(DOB: 12/1962) (Age: 46)   

10433 W 125TH TER
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66213-2171
JOHNSON COUNTY
(07/2006-Current)    Most Recent Telephone Listing 913-Edit-No phone numbers pleaseBIEN DOUG (07/2006-Current)

Most Recent Telephone Listing 913-Edit-No phone numbers pleaseBIEN DOUG (07/2006-Current)
12135 FARLEY ST
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66213-1672
JOHNSON COUNTY
(07/1994-07/2006)    913-Edit-No phone numbers pleaseBIEN DOUG(Current Listing Name)

12705 S MUR LEN RD STE A7
OLATHE, KS 66062-1200
JOHNSON COUNTY
(11/1983-09/2005)   Edit-No phone numbers please

101 UITE C CHILES AND CO
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66212
JOHNSON COUNTY
(10/1997-10/1997)   

11580 CAENEN ST
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66210-2728
JOHNSON COUNTY
(06/1992-01/1997)   

180 UITE C CHILES AND CO
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66210
JOHNSON COUNTY
(12/1994-01/1996)   

9200 INDIAN CREEK PKWY APT
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66210-2002
JOHNSON COUNTY
(08/1994-08/1994)
   
11580 CARMEN
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66210
JOHNSON COUNTY
(06/1992-12/1992)   

9320 DEARBORN ST
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66207-2422
JOHNSON COUNTY
(01/1988-12/1992)   

15406 W 80TH PL
LENEXA, KS 66219-1533
JOHNSON COUNTY
(11/1983-12/1991)    Edit-No phone numbers please
9227 LICHTENAUER DR APT 31
LENEXA, KS 66219-2105
JOHNSON COUNTY
(01/1990-12/1990)    Edit-No phone numbers please

15402 W 88TH TER
LENEXA, KS 66219-1411
JOHNSON COUNTY
(10/1990-10/1990)   

10116 W 80TH ST APT
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66204-4724
JOHNSON COUNTY
(03/1987-01/1988)   

7939 W 115TH PL
OVERLAND PARK, KS 66210-2511
JOHNSON COUNTY
(02/1987-02/1987)


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on May 01, 2009, 08:57:48 AM
Yeesh. You guys are amazing.

So we have connected Diedre and Her Mom and Tim Lawless through the business info, correct?

B


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 09:57:12 AM
Yeesh. You guys are amazing.

So we have connected Diedre and Her Mom and Tim Lawless through the business info, correct?

B

We have connected Diedre through association to Tim Lawless through the business info.  There is still work to be done to ensure this is the Deidre that Bette Johnson and her daughter Carleen Lawless keep visiting in Wenatchee in 1982.  There is also work to be done to connect Deirdre to Betty and Don Johnson through bloodline.  As of 1984 Bette had 30 grandkids!

We are close.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 10:04:15 AM
I need help getting the census information on this lovely union.

Franklin C Lawless
B  1878 Indiana
D 26 Sep 1938/39

Married 12 Jan 1901

Margaret A Blue


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 10:13:59 AM
nancy daughter of bette and richard lawless is born 1946
she is 63, so if she had a daughter at age 16, she could have a daughter who is 47 now, so this might be the right deidre, and be the daughter of one of bette and richards kids. now being this deidre is back in kansas with a john j lawless. is that our missing john lawless?


Nancy married Nick Pizzitola and they had their daughter Monique Pizzitola bef 1986

It is always Carleen that goes with Betty to visit Deidre. 
Carleen Lawless married Tom  Shepard (parents are George Leo Shepard b. 26 Oct 1910 Old Everts, South Dakota
Mother Violet Louise Olmsted B 20 Mar 1916 Pollock, South Dakota

I personally think that either

a) Carleen had a child out of wedlock before she married Tom Shepard
b) Deidre is the daughter of one of the three marriages of the son born to Richard and first wife Wilma Toots and Bette being the maternal type goes to visit this child.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on May 01, 2009, 10:22:56 AM
I need help getting the census information on this lovely union.

Franklin C Lawless
B  1878 Indiana
D 26 Sep 1938/39

Married 12 Jan 1901

Margaret A Blue


Is this him?

1 FILE LAWLESS-1878
1 NAME Franklin C. /LAWLESS/
1 SEX Male
1 BIRT
2 DATE <1878>
2 PLAC IN
3 PAGE FHL Film 1254268; National Archives Film T9-0268; Page 453D
1 CENS
2 DATE 1880
2 PLAC Jackson, Cass, Indiana
3 PAGE FHL Film 1254268; National Archives Film T9-0268; Page 453D
4 TEXT Extract: 1880 United States Census
5 CONT Census Place: Jackson, Cass, Indiana
5 CONT Source: FHL Film 1254268; National Archives Film T9-0268; Page 453D
5 CONT Household:
5 CONT             Rel      Sex    Marr Race Age Birthplace
5 CONT Mc. A. LAWLESS
5 CONT             Self     Male   M    W    34  VA
5 CONT       Occ: Farmer                                        Fa: VA Mo: VA
5 CONT Sarah A. LAWLESS
5 CONT             Wife     Female M    W    39  IN
5 CONT       Occ: Keeping House                                 Fa: OH Mo: VA
5 CONT James H. LAWLESS
5 CONT             Son      Male   S    W    14  IL
5 CONT       Occ: At Home                                       Fa: VA Mo: IN
5 CONT Minnie M. LAWLESS
5 CONT             Dau      Female S    W    10  IN
5 CONT       Occ: At Home                                       Fa: VA Mo: IN
5 CONT Walter R. LAWLESS
5 CONT             Son      Male   S    W    7   IN
5 CONT       Occ: At Home                                       Fa: VA Mo: IN
5 CONT Franklin C. LAWLESS
5 CONT             Son      Male   S    W    2   IN
5 CONT       Occ: At Home                                       Fa: VA Mo: IN



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on May 01, 2009, 10:38:03 AM
1930 Census Data on Margaret & Frank Lawless



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 10:39:40 AM
I need help getting the census information on this lovely union.

Franklin C Lawless
B  1878 Indiana
D 26 Sep 1938/39

Married 12 Jan 1901

Margaret A Blue


Is this him?

1 FILE LAWLESS-1878
1 NAME Franklin C. /LAWLESS/
1 SEX Male
1 BIRT
2 DATE <1878>
2 PLAC IN
3 PAGE FHL Film 1254268; National Archives Film T9-0268; Page 453D
1 CENS
2 DATE 1880
2 PLAC Jackson, Cass, Indiana
3 PAGE FHL Film 1254268; National Archives Film T9-0268; Page 453D
4 TEXT Extract: 1880 United States Census
5 CONT Census Place: Jackson, Cass, Indiana
5 CONT Source: FHL Film 1254268; National Archives Film T9-0268; Page 453D
5 CONT Household:
5 CONT             Rel      Sex    Marr Race Age Birthplace
5 CONT Mc. A. LAWLESS
5 CONT             Self     Male   M    W    34  VA
5 CONT       Occ: Farmer                                        Fa: VA Mo: VA
5 CONT Sarah A. LAWLESS
5 CONT             Wife     Female M    W    39  IN
5 CONT       Occ: Keeping House                                 Fa: OH Mo: VA
5 CONT James H. LAWLESS
5 CONT             Son      Male   S    W    14  IL
5 CONT       Occ: At Home                                       Fa: VA Mo: IN
5 CONT Minnie M. LAWLESS
5 CONT             Dau      Female S    W    10  IN
5 CONT       Occ: At Home                                       Fa: VA Mo: IN
5 CONT Walter R. LAWLESS
5 CONT             Son      Male   S    W    7   IN
5 CONT       Occ: At Home                                       Fa: VA Mo: IN
5 CONT Franklin C. LAWLESS
5 CONT             Son      Male   S    W    2   IN
5 CONT       Occ: At Home                                       Fa: VA Mo: IN



Yes it is!!!  Can we keep tracking him on the next few census?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on May 01, 2009, 10:43:13 AM
The 1930 Census Data I posted shows only Margaret & Frank as occupants. 

Census - US Federal 1930

… Indiana » MIAMI » PERU CITY, WARD 2 » 52-16 » Sheet 4A

State:
    Indiana

   1. Lawless, Margaret (b: 1873*)

      Household:
          Lawless, Frank (b: 1878*)


I'm still trying to find earlier  census data to confirm whether or not they had children.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 10:46:00 AM
The 1930 Census Data I posted shows only Margaret & Frank as occupants. 

Census - US Federal 1930

… Indiana » MIAMI » PERU CITY, WARD 2 » 52-16 » Sheet 4A

State:
    Indiana

   1. Lawless, Margaret (b: 1873*)

      Household:
          Lawless, Frank (b: 1878*)


I'm still trying to find earlier  census data to confirm whether or not they had children.


Thanks that would be great!  He seems to stick around so his and Margaret's deaths may be in Peru as well.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on May 01, 2009, 11:18:56 AM
The 1930 Census Data I posted shows only Margaret & Frank as occupants. 

Census - US Federal 1930

… Indiana » MIAMI » PERU CITY, WARD 2 » 52-16 » Sheet 4A

State:
    Indiana

   1. Lawless, Margaret (b: 1873*)

      Household:
          Lawless, Frank (b: 1878*)


I'm still trying to find earlier  census data to confirm whether or not they had children.


Thanks that would be great!  He seems to stick around so his and Margaret's deaths may be in Peru as well.

1920 Census information shows the following members of the household:

Frank C Lawless     40
Margarete Lawless    46
George A Burgher    32
Jennette M Burgher    30

George A. Burgher is listed as his step son, and Jennette his daughter in law.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on May 01, 2009, 11:31:58 AM
1900 Census Data for Frank Lawless is attached.  It's a little confusing though, as it has him as a resident of the William J. and Minnie Ellis household, and his relationship is listed as "br in law."  Look at lines 39-41.





Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on May 01, 2009, 11:35:04 AM
Marriage Record for Frank Lawless

Name:     Franklin C Lawless
Spouse Name:    Margaret A Blue
Marriage Date:    12 Jan 1901
Marriage County:    Miami
Estimated Birth Year:    1878
Age:    23
Source Title 1:    Miami County, Indiana
Source Title 2:    Index to Marriage Record 1850-1920 Inclusive Volum
Source Title 3:    Original Record Located County Clerks Office, Peru
Book:    C 10
OS Page:    558


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 11:51:32 AM
The 1930 Census Data I posted shows only Margaret & Frank as occupants. 

Census - US Federal 1930

… Indiana » MIAMI » PERU CITY, WARD 2 » 52-16 » Sheet 4A

State:
    Indiana

   1. Lawless, Margaret (b: 1873*)

      Household:
          Lawless, Frank (b: 1878*)


I'm still trying to find earlier  census data to confirm whether or not they had children.


Thanks that would be great!  He seems to stick around so his and Margaret's deaths may be in Peru as well.

1920 Census information shows the following members of the household:

Frank C Lawless     40
Margarete Lawless    46
George A Burgher    32
Jennette M Burgher    30

George A. Burgher is listed as his step son, and Jennette his daughter in law.


Step son?  There is only an 8 year difference between Frank and George.  Margaret would have been 14 if George is her child.  Guess that is possible. and Jennette marrying George would make her a daughter in law.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 01, 2009, 11:55:12 AM
Hey Hey Monkeys!!!! TGIF ::MonkeyDance::
Need help with research?
 LM


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 11:56:22 AM
Yeesh. You guys are amazing.

So we have connected Diedre and Her Mom and Tim Lawless through the business info, correct?



no, haha, we have connected no one for certain yet.
 
my personal opinion is this:  (from what it is looking like to me)

richard ray lawless - 3 counts of child rape, living in  buclarkston/lewiston areas will most likely connect to one of the CCL's uncles families, of which there is the Johnson line also

Timothy John Lawless, 10 sex crimes in jail in sacramento, whose father is gary d lawless, is still a total brick wall as no one can find Gary D lawless the father. But we believe the gary d lawless sex offender is his brother.  this is the gary d lawless who also was arrested and in prison on a drug deal gone bad/murder, he beat the murder and was to be released this year, he could be out, or just about getting out.
we are still working to find out which line his father is from. 

The Rhode Island sex offend Gordon Lester Lawless MIGHT connect back to the Washington Lawless family of CCL.  He is in bangor maine, which there is an amanda lawless in bangor maine. An Amanda Lawless marries the above child rapist Richard Ray Lawless.  Also there is a John Lawless in the CLL uncles list who leaves Washington and goes to Bangor Maine, so we are trying to figure out if all these connect.

CLL's uncle Richard Birdette Lawless' first wife bette then married Donald Johnson, whose first wife was Garner, her father is Dale Garner.  They have 5 childern(unknown names at this time).  If they named one of their sons after her father Dale, we then have a Dale Johnson(I just found that last night so will work on that). 

There are a few more sex offenders we are working on, but off the top of my head I can't remember them but they are somewhere in these threads LOL


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on May 01, 2009, 11:58:38 AM
The 1930 Census Data I posted shows only Margaret & Frank as occupants. 

Census - US Federal 1930

… Indiana » MIAMI » PERU CITY, WARD 2 » 52-16 » Sheet 4A

State:
    Indiana

   1. Lawless, Margaret (b: 1873*)

      Household:
          Lawless, Frank (b: 1878*)


I'm still trying to find earlier  census data to confirm whether or not they had children.


Thanks that would be great!  He seems to stick around so his and Margaret's deaths may be in Peru as well.

1920 Census information shows the following members of the household:

Frank C Lawless     40
Margarete Lawless    46
George A Burgher    32
Jennette M Burgher    30

George A. Burgher is listed as his step son, and Jennette his daughter in law.


Step son?  There is only an 8 year difference between Frank and George.  Margaret would have been 14 if George is her child.  Guess that is possible. and Jennette marrying George would make her a daughter in law.


1920 Census Data is attached.



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 11:59:13 AM
1900 Census Data for Frank Lawless is attached.  It's a little confusing though, as it has him as a resident of the William J. and Minnie Ellis household, and his relationship is listed as "br in law."  Look at lines 39-41.

This actually makes sense. Minnie is his sister, second oldest of the children.
Minnie Lawless
B 1870 Indiana

Married

William J  Ellis
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on May 01, 2009, 12:00:15 PM
The 1930 Census Data I posted shows only Margaret & Frank as occupants. 

Census - US Federal 1930

… Indiana » MIAMI » PERU CITY, WARD 2 » 52-16 » Sheet 4A

State:
    Indiana

   1. Lawless, Margaret (b: 1873*)

      Household:
          Lawless, Frank (b: 1878*)


I'm still trying to find earlier  census data to confirm whether or not they had children.


Thanks that would be great!  He seems to stick around so his and Margaret's deaths may be in Peru as well.

1920 Census information shows the following members of the household:

Frank C Lawless     40
Margarete Lawless    46
George A Burgher    32
Jennette M Burgher    30

George A. Burgher is listed as his step son, and Jennette his daughter in law.


Step son?  There is only an 8 year difference between Frank and George.  Margaret would have been 14 if George is her child.  Guess that is possible. and Jennette marrying George would make her a daughter in law.


1920 Census Data is attached.



Look at lines 62-65.  That may say Step daughter in law by Jeannette's name.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on May 01, 2009, 12:01:16 PM
1900 Census Data for Frank Lawless is attached.  It's a little confusing though, as it has him as a resident of the William J. and Minnie Ellis household, and his relationship is listed as "br in law."  Look at lines 39-41.

This actually makes sense. Minnie is his sister, second oldest of the children.
Minnie Lawless
B 1870 Indiana

Married

William J  Ellis
 

WOW!  You are on the ball NROSE!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on May 01, 2009, 12:02:04 PM
I can't seem to find the 1910 Census data for Frank Lawless. . .


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 12:02:06 PM
Hey Hey Monkeys!!!! TGIF ::MonkeyDance::
Need help with research?
 LM

Can always use help Lone!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 01, 2009, 12:04:23 PM
Yeesh. You guys are amazing.

So we have connected Diedre and Her Mom and Tim Lawless through the business info, correct?



no, haha, we have connected no one for certain yet.
 
my personal opinion is this:  (from what it is looking like to me)

richard ray lawless - 3 counts of child rape, living in  buclarkston/lewiston areas will most likely connect to one of the CCL's uncles families, of which there is the Johnson line also

Timothy John Lawless, 10 sex crimes in jail in sacramento, whose father is gary d lawless, is still a total brick wall as no one can find Gary D lawless the father. But we believe the gary d lawless sex offender is his brother.  this is the gary d lawless who also was arrested and in prison on a drug deal gone bad/murder, he beat the murder and was to be released this year, he could be out, or just about getting out.
we are still working to find out which line his father is from. 


Do you have a Birth date for Gary D. Lawless?
I Have 2 for that name:
12/30/1947 Carthage, Texas
7/03/1932   Belle Plaine Kansas


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 12:05:14 PM
Hey Hey Monkeys!!!! TGIF ::MonkeyDance::
Need help with research?
 LM

always need help, please jump in


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 12:05:24 PM
Hey Hey Monkeys!!!! TGIF ::MonkeyDance::
Need help with research?
 LM

Can always use help Lone!

Attached is a pic of Gary Lawless - Poet from Seattle.  He is somehow connected to the Wenatchee/Brewster clan.  Can you chase this guy down.  anything will help.



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 01, 2009, 12:06:48 PM
You guys should make a
RESEARCH WISH LIST  ::MonkeyLaugh::
but seriously...whatcha want help with???

Point me in a direction and off I'll go..........


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 01, 2009, 12:11:09 PM
Hey Hey Monkeys!!!! TGIF ::MonkeyDance::
Need help with research?
 LM

Can always use help Lone!

Attached is a pic of Gary Lawless - Poet from Seattle.  He is somehow connected to the Wenatchee/Brewster clan.  Can you chase this guy down.  anything will help.


Okie-Doke NorRose!
I found a National Sex Offender Registry that was very helpful!
Here's the link:
http://www.criminalcheck.com/ (http://www.criminalcheck.com/)

Sex Offender Name Search
Results for "LAWLESS" on 85 database(s) Searched by Name

Name    Date Of Birth    Source
LAWLESS,BUBBA   Sep 14 1949   Texas Sex Offenders [Alias]
LAWLESS,CHAD   n/a   Wisconsin Sex Offender [alias]
LAWLESS,CHAD R   n/a   Wisconsin Sex Offender
LAWLESS,CHRISTOPHER L   Mar 16 1978   Illinois Sex Offender
LAWLESS,DAVID ANDREW   Aug 1 1965   Texas Sex Offenders [Alias]
LAWLESS,GORDON LESTER SR   Nov 19 1924   Maine Sex Offender
LAWLESS,JACK   Sep 14 1949   Texas Sex Offenders [Alias]
LAWLESS,JACK S   Sep 14 1949   Texas Sex Offenders [Alias]
LAWLESS,JACK SIDNEY   Sep 14 1949   Texas Sex Offenders
LAWLESS,JAMES CHARLES   Sep 15 1953   California Sex Offender
LAWLESS,JAMES CHARLES   n/a   California Sex Offender [alias]
LAWLESS,JAMES CHARLES   n/a   California Sex Offender [alias]
LAWLESS,JEFFERY L   n/a   Wisconsin Sex Offender [alias]
LAWLESS,JEFFERY L SR   n/a   Wisconsin Sex Offender
LAWLESS,JEFFREY L SR   n/a   Wisconsin Sex Offender [alias]
LAWLESS,JIMMY   n/a   California Sex Offender [alias]
LAWLESS,JOHN   Sep 15 1942   New York Sex Offender
LAWLESS,LARRY   Nov 27 1958   Ohio Sex Offender
LAWLESS,LARRY   Nov 27 1958   Ohio Sex Offender
LAWLESS,RICHARD KEITH   Nov 27 1957   Michigan Sex Offender
LAWLESS,RICHARD RAY   Aug 5 1948   Montana Sex Offender
LAWLESS,RICK   Nov 27 1957   Michigan Sex Offender [Alias]
LAWLESS,ROBERT ALAN   Sep 23 1983   California Sex Offender
LAWLESS,ROBERT LEE   Dec 21 1944   Texas Sex Offenders
LAWLESS,TIMOTHY R   Jul 18 1983   Maine Sex Offender
LAWLESS,WALLIE   Dec 1 1952   Iowa Sex Offender
LAWLESS,WALLIE   Dec 1 1952   Iowa Sex Offender
LAWLESS,WALLIE   Dec 1 1952   Iowa Sex Offender
LAWLESS,WILLIAM HENRY   Oct 11 1950   Oklahoma Sex Offender


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 12:16:48 PM
Yeesh. You guys are amazing.

So we have connected Diedre and Her Mom and Tim Lawless through the business info, correct?



no, haha, we have connected no one for certain yet.
 
my personal opinion is this:  (from what it is looking like to me)

richard ray lawless - 3 counts of child rape, living in  buclarkston/lewiston areas will most likely connect to one of the CCL's uncles families, of which there is the Johnson line also

Timothy John Lawless, 10 sex crimes in jail in sacramento, whose father is gary d lawless, is still a total brick wall as no one can find Gary D lawless the father. But we believe the gary d lawless sex offender is his brother.  this is the gary d lawless who also was arrested and in prison on a drug deal gone bad/murder, he beat the murder and was to be released this year, he could be out, or just about getting out.
we are still working to find out which line his father is from. 


Do you have a Birth date for Gary D. Lawless?
I Have 2 for that name:
12/30/1947 Carthage, Texas
7/03/1932   Belle Plaine Kansas

these are the 3 boys

Timothy John Lawless (in jail in sac for 10 sex crimes)
Name: Timothy J Lawless (Timothy John Lawless, aka Gomes)
Birth Date: 11 Dec 1964
Gender: Male
Mother's Maiden Name: Tieken
Birth County: Glenn

brother
Name: Gary D Lawless (Gary Duane Lawless, aka Gomes)
Birth Date: 7 Apr 1966
Gender: Male
Mother's Maiden Name: Tieken
Birth County: Napa

brother
Name: Jeffrey C Lawless (jeffrey carl lawless, aka Gomes)
Birth Date: 21 Nov 1967
Gender: Male
Mother's Maiden Name: Tieken
Birth County: Napa

mother and father of timothy john lawless
Name: Marylin E Tieken
Age: 30
Est. Birth: abt 1938
Spouse Name: Gary D Lawless
Spouse Age: 35
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1933
Date: 6 Jun 1968
Location: Napa

Name: Marylin E Tieken
Age: 36
Est. Birth: abt 1937
Spouse Name: Manuel Gomes
Spouse Age: 44
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1929
Date: 30 Oct 1973
Location: Solano

mothers birth and mother's maiden name
Name: Marylin Elizabeth Tieken
Birth Date: 20 Mar 1937
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Forman
Birth County: Napa

caifornia divorce
Name: Marylin E Ticken
Spouse Name: Gary D Lawless
Location: Napa
Date: Jul 1968

she married gary d lawless under the last name of short also
Name: Gary D Lawless
Age: 35
Est. Birth: abt 1933  
Spouse Name: Marylin E Short
Spouse Age: 30
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1938
Date: 6 Jun 1968  
Location: Napa

I have arrest records, child support, property deeds, etc.  We just can't figure out where Gary D. Lawless the father went or which lawless family he connects to. The mother and brothers show up in Napa, Glenn County, Butte County, Tehema County, Shasta County.  We believe the brother Gary is the Sex Offender who was in Butte County who was in Jail in Oakland/Alameda County, suppose to be released from prison this year.(not positive if this is him but seems to be).  all we need now is the father and go back and find his parents to see which line he ties too.

__________________________


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 12:20:53 PM
okay I saw a MINER name with one of the Lawless somewhere
here are places timothy is listed with

TIMOTHY J LAWLESS  
3532 DEBINA WAY
RANCHO CORDOVA, CA 95670

same biz
3532 DEBINA RANCHO CORDOVA, CA

SPANAWAY, WA
EATONVILLE, WA
RANCHO CORDOVA, CA
TACOMA, WA
 

Possible Relatives:

MINER, MAX E (Age 75)
MINER, VUDY (Age 62)


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 12:22:30 PM
Yeesh. You guys are amazing.

So we have connected Diedre and Her Mom and Tim Lawless through the business info, correct?



no, haha, we have connected no one for certain yet.
 
my personal opinion is this:  (from what it is looking like to me)

richard ray lawless - 3 counts of child rape, living in  buclarkston/lewiston areas will most likely connect to one of the CCL's uncles families, of which there is the Johnson line also

Timothy John Lawless, 10 sex crimes in jail in sacramento, whose father is gary d lawless, is still a total brick wall as no one can find Gary D lawless the father. But we believe the gary d lawless sex offender is his brother.  this is the gary d lawless who also was arrested and in prison on a drug deal gone bad/murder, he beat the murder and was to be released this year, he could be out, or just about getting out.
we are still working to find out which line his father is from. 


Do you have a Birth date for Gary D. Lawless?
I Have 2 for that name:
12/30/1947 Carthage, Texas
7/03/1932   Belle Plaine Kansas

these are the 3 boys

Timothy John Lawless (in jail in sac for 10 sex crimes)
Name: Timothy J Lawless (Timothy John Lawless, aka Gomes)
Birth Date: 11 Dec 1964
Gender: Male
Mother's Maiden Name: Tieken
Birth County: Glenn

brother
Name: Gary D Lawless (Gary Duane Lawless, aka Gomes)
Birth Date: 7 Apr 1966
Gender: Male
Mother's Maiden Name: Tieken
Birth County: Napa

brother
Name: Jeffrey C Lawless (jeffrey carl lawless, aka Gomes)
Birth Date: 21 Nov 1967
Gender: Male
Mother's Maiden Name: Tieken
Birth County: Napa

mother and father of timothy john lawless
Name: Marylin E Tieken
Age: 30
Est. Birth: abt 1938
Spouse Name: Gary D Lawless
Spouse Age: 35
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1933
Date: 6 Jun 1968
Location: Napa

Name: Marylin E Tieken
Age: 36
Est. Birth: abt 1937
Spouse Name: Manuel Gomes
Spouse Age: 44
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1929
Date: 30 Oct 1973
Location: Solano

mothers birth and mother's maiden name
Name: Marylin Elizabeth Tieken
Birth Date: 20 Mar 1937
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Forman
Birth County: Napa

caifornia divorce
Name: Marylin E Ticken
Spouse Name: Gary D Lawless
Location: Napa
Date: Jul 1968

she married gary d lawless under the last name of short also
Name: Gary D Lawless
Age: 35
Est. Birth: abt 1933  
Spouse Name: Marylin E Short
Spouse Age: 30
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1938
Date: 6 Jun 1968  
Location: Napa

I have arrest records, child support, property deeds, etc.  We just can't figure out where Gary D. Lawless the father went or which lawless family he connects to. The mother and brothers show up in Napa, Glenn County, Butte County, Tehema County, Shasta County.  We believe the brother Gary is the Sex Offender who was in Butte County who was in Jail in Oakland/Alameda County, suppose to be released from prison this year.(not positive if this is him but seems to be).  all we need now is the father and go back and find his parents to see which line he ties too.

__________________________
Totally agree Double, if someone else wants to take this on and work up this branch of the tree that would be great.  I am working down the tree right now and hopefully we can meet in the middle and make the connection.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 01, 2009, 12:23:11 PM
Hey Hey Monkeys!!!! TGIF ::MonkeyDance::
Need help with research?
 LM

Can always use help Lone!

Snipped:
http://www.uuchurchsacobiddeford.com/garylawless.html (http://www.uuchurchsacobiddeford.com/garylawless.html)
Attached is a pic of Gary Lawless - Poet from Seattle.  He is somehow connected to the Wenatchee/Brewster clan.  Can you chase this guy down.  anything will help.

(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/church_frontview.jpg)
Sponsored by the Unitarian Universalist Church of Saco and Biddeford
60 School Street, Saco, ME 04072 (directions)

                                  Meet the Poet
                                  Gary Lawless

(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/GaryLawless.jpg)
Gary Lawless has published 14 poetry collections in the U.S. including "Caribouddhism" and "Poems for the Wild Earth". His writing deals with issues of environmental and social justice, and listening to the voices of the underprivileged and overlooked.

Lawless has taught at Mt. Ararat High School in Topsham and Bates College in Lewiston. He received grants from the Cabot Trust and the Quebec Labrador Foundation for work in Newfoundland and Labrador, has been poet-in-residence for the Island Institute in Sitka, Alaska, and for Isle Royale National Park, in Lake Superior. He received a grant from the National Endowment for the Arts for publishing. He was one of the founding members of the Maine Writers and Publishers Alliance.

Lawless is co-owner of Gulf of Maine Books an independent bookstore in Brunswick. He resides at Chimney Farm in Nobleboro.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 12:24:41 PM
Here are the other ones that I need census data, death, marriage certs on.  BIG thanks in advance

Violet Hazel Lawless
B. 6 Sep 1886 Indiana
D FL

Married 3 Jun 1907

Charles P Kopp

AND

Minnie Lawless
B 1870 Indiana

Married

William J  Ellis


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: justwondering on May 01, 2009, 12:26:09 PM
Hi.  Here is a question for DD

Your info:
Timothy John Lawless, 10 sex crimes in jail in sacramento, whose father is gary d lawless, is still a total brick wall as no one can find Gary D lawless the father. But we believe the gary d lawless sex offender is his brother.  this is the gary d lawless who also was arrested and in prison on a drug deal gone bad/murder, he beat the murder and was to be released this year, he could be out, or just about getting out.


Is the guy responsible for the highlighted area above truly a Gary "D" Lawless, because I actually think he is a guy named Gary Lawless (without the "D") who is an Oakland gang member that is 30 years old in 2007.  He was in jail from July 2003-2007.  He is the accused murderer, sex offender, & drug dealer that shot his fellow gang member.  His birth record is below.

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Gary Lawless
Name:    Gary Lawless
Birth Date:    17 Oct 1976
Gender:    Male
Mother's Maiden Name:    Love
Birth County:    Alameda
Order Original Certificate:    Order Now

There also is a Gary Lawless that is a horse jockey in Alameda in 1974-76, but I'm doubt he is related to any of these guys.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Sacsayhuan on May 01, 2009, 12:26:58 PM
  ::MonkeyConfused::  I know this is going to sound very idiotic, but --- when I was doing a genealogical study about 10 years ago - the books I read - suggested to call the Mormons -  I have to go find the books - and find out their mailing address and telephone numbers.  Apparently they have an extensive library and research material.  Don't kill the messenger - just an idea.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 01, 2009, 12:27:44 PM
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/lawless.gif)

Gary Lawless is a poet, co-owner of Gulf of Maine Bookstore in Brunswick, Maine, and publisher of Blackberry Books. He and his partner Beth Leonard have lived for almost 20 years at Chimney Farm, the Maine home of writers Henry Beston, Elizabeth Coatsworth, and Kate Beston Barnes. For more information on Chimney farm and the current plans to preserve and protect it, go to Saving Chimney Farm Gary is also the editor of the website, Embargopoets, featuring poems from countries embargoed by the United States government.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 01, 2009, 12:29:02 PM
  ::MonkeyConfused::  I know this is going to sound very idiotic, but --- when I was doing a genealogical study about 10 years ago - the books I read - suggested to call the Mormons -  I have to go find the books - and find out their mailing address and telephone numbers.  Apparently they have an extensive library and research material.  Don't kill the messenger - just an idea.

You don't even have to call...
It's ALL on line!!!! ::MonkeyDance::
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp (http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp)


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on May 01, 2009, 12:29:29 PM
Is poet Gary a Gary D?

AND

Do we have a Lynette Lawless on here?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 01, 2009, 12:33:30 PM
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/GaryLawless.jpg)
Looks like this Gary Lawless was born in Belfast, Ireland.
http://www.uuchurchsacobiddeford.com/garylawless.html (http://www.uuchurchsacobiddeford.com/garylawless.html)

Gary Lawless grew up in Belfast and now co-owns a bookstore in Brunswick. He is the editor of Blackberry Books and has published poetry widely. Dr. Gary Lawless was awarded an honorary Phd., by the University of Southern Maine, spring 2008. You can see his recent writings at mygrations.blogspot.com


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on May 01, 2009, 12:39:10 PM
Here are the other ones that I need census data, death, marriage certs on.  BIG thanks in advance

Violet Hazel Lawless
B. 6 Sep 1886 Indiana
D FL

Married 3 Jun 1907

Charles P Kopp

AND

Minnie Lawless
B 1870 Indiana

Married

William J  Ellis


Here's a start:

Name:     Violet H Lawless
Spouse Name:    Cam Lawson
Marriage Date:    6 Jul 1904
Marriage County:    Miami
Estimated Birth Year:    1886
Age:    18
Source Title 1:    Miami County, Indiana
Source Title 2:    Index to Marriage Record 1850-1920 Inclusive Volum
Source Title 3:    Original Record Located County Clerks Office, Peru
Book:    C 11
OS Page:    481


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 01, 2009, 12:39:38 PM
  ::MonkeyConfused::  I know this is going to sound very idiotic, but --- when I was doing a genealogical study about 10 years ago - the books I read - suggested to call the Mormons -  I have to go find the books - and find out their mailing address and telephone numbers.  Apparently they have an extensive library and research material.  Don't kill the messenger - just an idea.

There is also good info on the Jesus Christ of Ladder Day Saints site.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on May 01, 2009, 12:40:30 PM
Here are the other ones that I need census data, death, marriage certs on.  BIG thanks in advance

Violet Hazel Lawless
B. 6 Sep 1886 Indiana
D FL

Married 3 Jun 1907

Charles P Kopp

AND

She must have been pretty busy. . .

Name:     Violet H Lawless
Spouse Name:    Iler E Cloud
Marriage Date:    31 Oct 1908
Marriage County:    Miami
Estimated Birth Year:    1886
Age:    22
Source Title 1:    Miami County, Indiana
Source Title 2:    Index to Marriage Record 1850-1920 Inclusive Volum
Source Title 3:    Original Record Located County Clerks Office, Peru
Book:    C 12
OS Page:    544

Minnie Lawless
B 1870 Indiana

Married

William J  Ellis


Here's a start:

Name:     Violet H Lawless
Spouse Name:    Cam Lawson
Marriage Date:    6 Jul 1904
Marriage County:    Miami
Estimated Birth Year:    1886
Age:    18
Source Title 1:    Miami County, Indiana
Source Title 2:    Index to Marriage Record 1850-1920 Inclusive Volum
Source Title 3:    Original Record Located County Clerks Office, Peru
Book:    C 11
OS Page:    481


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on May 01, 2009, 12:41:18 PM
Here are the other ones that I need census data, death, marriage certs on.  BIG thanks in advance

Violet Hazel Lawless
B. 6 Sep 1886 Indiana
D FL

Married 3 Jun 1907

Charles P Kopp

AND

Minnie Lawless
B 1870 Indiana

Married

William J  Ellis


Here's a start:

Name:     Violet H Lawless
Spouse Name:    Cam Lawson
Marriage Date:    6 Jul 1904
Marriage County:    Miami
Estimated Birth Year:    1886
Age:    18
Source Title 1:    Miami County, Indiana
Source Title 2:    Index to Marriage Record 1850-1920 Inclusive Volum
Source Title 3:    Original Record Located County Clerks Office, Peru
Book:    C 11
OS Page:    481

She must have been pretty busy. . . Divorced and remarried 4 years later?

Name:     Violet H Lawless
Spouse Name:    Iler E Cloud
Marriage Date:    31 Oct 1908
Marriage County:    Miami
Estimated Birth Year:    1886
Age:    22
Source Title 1:    Miami County, Indiana
Source Title 2:    Index to Marriage Record 1850-1920 Inclusive Volum
Source Title 3:    Original Record Located County Clerks Office, Peru
Book:    C 12
OS Page:    544


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on May 01, 2009, 12:42:28 PM
Here are the other ones that I need census data, death, marriage certs on.  BIG thanks in advance

Violet Hazel Lawless
B. 6 Sep 1886 Indiana
D FL

Married 3 Jun 1907

Charles P Kopp

AND

Minnie Lawless
B 1870 Indiana

Married

William J  Ellis


Here's a start:

Name:     Violet H Lawless
Spouse Name:    Cam Lawson
Marriage Date:    6 Jul 1904
Marriage County:    Miami
Estimated Birth Year:    1886
Age:    18
Source Title 1:    Miami County, Indiana
Source Title 2:    Index to Marriage Record 1850-1920 Inclusive Volum
Source Title 3:    Original Record Located County Clerks Office, Peru
Book:    C 11
OS Page:    481

She must have been pretty busy. . . Divorced and remarried 4 years later?

Name:     Violet H Lawless
Spouse Name:    Iler E Cloud
Marriage Date:    31 Oct 1908
Marriage County:    Miami
Estimated Birth Year:    1886
Age:    22
Source Title 1:    Miami County, Indiana
Source Title 2:    Index to Marriage Record 1850-1920 Inclusive Volum
Source Title 3:    Original Record Located County Clerks Office, Peru
Book:    C 12
OS Page:    544

Now I'm really confused. . . . ::MonkeyConfused::

Name:     Violet H Lawless
Spouse Name:    Onarles P Kopp
Marriage Date:    3 Jun 1907
Marriage County:    Miami
Estimated Birth Year:    1887
Age:    20
Source Title 1:    Miami County, Indiana
Source Title 2:    Index to Marriage Record 1850-1920 Inclusive Volum
Source Title 3:    Original Record Located County Clerks Office, Peru
Book:    C 12
OS Page:    323


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 01, 2009, 12:52:59 PM
Belfast - Ireland or Maine? ::MonkeyEek::
Me thinks Maine!
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/P168504.jpg)

Snipped:
http://waldo.villagesoup.com/Community/story.cfm?storyID=156380 (http://waldo.villagesoup.com/Community/story.cfm?storyID=156380)
First person -- Lawless: Lives find voice in poetry
By Jay Davis
The Republican Journal Senior Reporter
   
BELFAST (May 1): Poet Gary Lawless' mission in life is to introduce the last people you'd expect would be interested to the life-changing language of poems.

Many of his students can't read or write. His longest relationship has been with a school for people with developmental disabilities in Brunswick called Spindleworks, but he also has worked with prisoners, the homeless, refugees and, now, combat veterans.

Lawless, who was born in the old Waldo County Hospital that was located across High Street from Waterfall Arts, came to poetry the hard way, too.

As a Belfast Area High School senior, he and two friends went to Boston to check out Tufts University, where the sister of one of them was studying. Late one night, after a session at the psychedelic dance club Boston Tea Party, Lawless was struck by a Ford Fairlane traveling at 60 to 70 mph as he crossed the Mass Turnpike.

His body was shattered, and a seven-vehicle pile-up ensued that included a tractor-trailer. He says now he can't remember a thing about the collision, or the two weeks that followed. But he ended up back home in Belfast in a cast that encased his lower body and bandages that hid 36 stitches in his head and a fractured skull.

Kept indoors by his injuries, Lawless read poems by ancient Chinese and Japanese writers who venerated the outdoors. He exchanged letters with Gary Snyder, the California-based naturalist poet celebrated in Jack Kerouac's book Dharma Bums, which Lawless had purchased at Palmer's Stationery on Main Street a few years earlier.

He had no interest in graduate school, so he asked Snyder if he could live with him as an apprentice -- “just like during the Renaissance.” The day after he graduated he hitchhiked to California and began learning about Buddhism and Zen and poetry from a master who would soon win a Pulitzer Prize.

Lawless was puttering about the family home Monday, preparing to plant an apple tree. His mother Ruth, who now lives in a nursing home in Bath, had asked him to reinstall the white wire fence around the ferns that she planted years ago after digging them up in the wild.

His parents – former Police Chief Jake Lawless (there's also a Judge Lawless on the family tree) and former telephone operator Ruth Lawless – were readers, though, and Gary visited bookstores in Camden and Bangor to buy volumes not available in Belfast.

“When I was little, I had three grandparents all living on High Street,” he said, “so I had a good extended family looking out for me.” And as he grew, there were outings to Swan Lake and City Park and the harbor where his love of nature was born.

In recent years, Lawless has challenged language barriers by reading his poems in Italy, Lithuania, Latvia, Cuba and Slovenia. He is provided a translator, he said, because he speaks only English. Once, the translator was drunk and told a story about a river instead of reading his poems, he said.

His work with nonmainstream groups is meant to “use poetry as a way to get them to feel what they have to say is worthwhile. Through poetry, they get a voice, and then they can speak for themselves. They become activists on their own behalf,” he said.

The Spindleworks poets have published two volumes of their work, including a poem describing what it's like to not be able to read that Lawless presented Monday night.



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 12:53:03 PM
Hi.  Here is a question for DD

Your info:
Timothy John Lawless, 10 sex crimes in jail in sacramento, whose father is gary d lawless, is still a total brick wall as no one can find Gary D lawless the father. But we believe the gary d lawless sex offender is his brother.  this is the gary d lawless who also was arrested and in prison on a drug deal gone bad/murder, he beat the murder and was to be released this year, he could be out, or just about getting out.


Is the guy responsible for the highlighted area above truly a Gary "D" Lawless, because I actually think he is a guy named Gary Lawless (without the "D") who is an Oakland gang member that is 30 years old in 2007.  He was in jail from July 2003-2007.  He is the accused murderer, sex offender, & drug dealer that shot his fellow gang member.  His birth record is below.

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Gary Lawless
Name:    Gary Lawless
Birth Date:    17 Oct 1976
Gender:    Male
Mother's Maiden Name:    Love
Birth County:    Alameda
Order Original Certificate:    Order Now

There also is a Gary Lawless that is a horse jockey in Alameda in 1974-76, but I'm doubt he is related to any of these guys.


we don't know if this is the brother or not.  the age is off a few years and that bothered me. on the butte county warrants there is a gary lawless who is a sex offender.  on the warrant docs it states they think he might be in the alameda jail.  this is why someone went looking in the alameda jail and found this one.  I forgot who found the info on the alameda jail one, it is somewhere in this thread. LOL
we are trying to find out if that is him.  the butte county arrest warrant docs gives no birthdate for gary lawless.  but the right gary d lawless' mother and brother jeffrey were also arrested over in butte county for battery and the plaintiff is Gary lawless, so it seems they were all over there and going to jail.  all of the arrest warrant docs for the whole family are in this thread. 

I am working on organizing all of this stuff in categories in a searchable database.  takes a lot of time ugh.  and trying to research at the same time.  but until they you can use the search function on this board to look for the info already in this thread.  it is scrambled all through here and everyone finds something and posts it to this thread.  It will be awhile before I can get this all organized ugh.

if you could help find out if this is the correct gary lawless would certainly help


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on May 01, 2009, 12:53:23 PM
Minnie Lawless:

Name:     Minnie M. Lawless
Home in 1880:    Jackson, Cass, Indiana
Age:    10
Estimated Birth Year:    abt 1870
Birthplace:    Indiana
Relation to head-of-household:    Daughter
Father's Name:    Mc. A.
Father's birthplace:    Virginia
Mother's Name:    Sarah A.
Mother's birthplace:    Indiana
Neighbors:    View others on page
Occupation:    At Home
Marital Status:    Single
Race:    White
Gender:    Female
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane:
   
View Image
Household Members:    
Name    Age
Mc. A. Lawless    34
Sarah A. Lawless    39
James H. Lawless    14
Minnie M. Lawless    10
Walter R. Lawless    7
Franklin C. Lawless    2
George Nicholes    61
Mary Nicholes    59
William E. Nicholes    27
Peter Nicholes    25
Elisabeth Nicholes    20
Sameul Nicholes    16
Noah Nicholes    14
Franklin Nicholes    12


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 12:55:23 PM
Is poet Gary a Gary D?

AND

Do we have a Lynette Lawless on here?

I have not see lynette, who is she suppose to be?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 12:56:24 PM
I have violet in my data base, let me get it


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on May 01, 2009, 12:59:05 PM
Minnie Lawless 1880 Census Data is attached.  The reference to the Nichols being household members is an error on the site.

Lines 37-42



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 12:59:32 PM
 
Violet Hazel Lawless
Birth: 6 Sep 1886
Rockspring, Patrick, Virginia, United States 
Death: 15 Dec 1966
Haines City, Polk, Florida, United States 

is this the right one you are looking for, if so, I have a lot of info for her




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 01, 2009, 12:59:37 PM
On to Violet...
This came up immediately!...
LAWLESS GENEALOGY - Life IN The Past Lane
http://kyusa.addr.com/Lawless/ (http://kyusa.addr.com/Lawless/)


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on May 01, 2009, 01:00:44 PM
Minnie Lawless summary of 1910 Census data:

Name:     Minnie M Ellis
[Minnie M Lawless]
Age in 1910:    39
Estimated Birth Year:    abt 1871
Birthplace:    Indiana
Relation to Head-of-house:    Wife
Father's Birth Place:    Virginia
Mother's Name:    Sarrah A
Mother's Birth Place:    Indiana
Spouse's name:    James W
Home in 1910:    Peru Ward 2, Miami, Indiana
Marital Status:    Married
Race:    White
Gender:    Female
Neighbors:    View others on page
Household Members:    
Name    Age
James W Ellis    49
Minnie M Ellis    39
Sarrah A Lawless    67


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 01, 2009, 01:02:42 PM
LAWLESS FAMILY GENEALOGY FORUM-
http://genforum.genealogy.com/lawless/all.html (http://genforum.genealogy.com/lawless/all.html)


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 01:07:03 PM
 I have these.  which are you missing

census
1920
1930

florida death

indiana marriage,
 hazel v king to robert M harmon
violet cloud to lee king,
violet h lawless to cam lawson
violet h lawless go iler e cloud
 

ss death

articles i the kokomo tribune, indiana


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: JessStar on May 01, 2009, 01:07:27 PM
Gotta run out for a bit.  bbl


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 01:10:07 PM
the kokomo tribune articles do not mark the name, they give you the page and you have to read it all to find the name ugh. 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 01:12:43 PM
I am going to go back to timothy john lawless this morning because I recognize something that matches somewhere and I need to find that.  now that we have a lot more names and locations of others, I think I might be able to fit timothy in there. so I will be doing that. 

if you need anything looked up for a record etc, just ask, I will check my database, it has over 200 people in it now with all the docs I can find, so I have a lot in there that I have not even had time to look at yet. 

so just ask,

also if you have info found, post it and I will add it to the data base and run a check through and see if it hooks up to more info


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Sacsayhuan on May 01, 2009, 01:14:14 PM
Hi.  Here is a question for DD

Your info:
Timothy John Lawless, 10 sex crimes in jail in sacramento, whose father is gary d lawless, is still a total brick wall as no one can find Gary D lawless the father. But we believe the gary d lawless sex offender is his brother.  this is the gary d lawless who also was arrested and in prison on a drug deal gone bad/murder, he beat the murder and was to be released this year, he could be out, or just about getting out.


Is the guy responsible for the highlighted area above truly a Gary "D" Lawless, because I actually think he is a guy named Gary Lawless (without the "D") who is an Oakland gang member that is 30 years old in 2007.  He was in jail from July 2003-2007.  He is the accused murderer, sex offender, & drug dealer that shot his fellow gang member.  His birth record is below.

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Gary Lawless
Name:    Gary Lawless
Birth Date:    17 Oct 1976
Gender:    Male
Mother's Maiden Name:    Love
Birth County:    Alameda
Order Original Certificate:    Order Now

There also is a Gary Lawless that is a horse jockey in Alameda in 1974-76, but I'm doubt he is related to any of these guys.


we don't know if this is the brother or not.  the age is off a few years and that bothered me. on the butte county warrants there is a gary lawless who is a sex offender.  on the warrant docs it states they think he might be in the alameda jail.  this is why someone went looking in the alameda jail and found this one.  I forgot who found the info on the alameda jail one, it is somewhere in this thread. LOL
we are trying to find out if that is him.  the butte county arrest warrant docs gives no birthdate for gary lawless.  but the right gary d lawless' mother and brother jeffrey were also arrested over in butte county for battery and the plaintiff is Gary lawless, so it seems they were all over there and going to jail.  all of the arrest warrant docs for the whole family are in this thread. 

I am working on organizing all of this stuff in categories in a searchable database.  takes a lot of time ugh.  and trying to research at the same time.  but until they you can use the search function on this board to look for the info already in this thread.  it is scrambled all through here and everyone finds something and posts it to this thread.  It will be awhile before I can get this all organized ugh.

if you could help find out if this is the correct gary lawless would certainly help

  Doubledecker - I'd help - but I have no idea what I am doing to the extent that you do.  Maybe I should go off and find Gary ?  If you can't find him - hmmm - let me make a few phone calls.  Can you email me and give me exactly what you have on him - ask blink for my email address - the gentleman I would call - could probably track him down - maybe - Friday afternoon - hurry.   


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 01:20:58 PM
Belfast - Ireland or Maine? ::MonkeyEek::
Me thinks Maine!
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/P168504.jpg)

Snipped:
http://waldo.villagesoup.com/Community/story.cfm?storyID=156380 (http://waldo.villagesoup.com/Community/story.cfm?storyID=156380)
First person -- Lawless: Lives find voice in poetry
By Jay Davis
The Republican Journal Senior Reporter
   
BELFAST (May 1): Poet Gary Lawless' mission in life is to introduce the last people you'd expect would be interested to the life-changing language of poems.

Many of his students can't read or write. His longest relationship has been with a school for people with developmental disabilities in Brunswick called Spindleworks, but he also has worked with prisoners, the homeless, refugees and, now, combat veterans.

Lawless, who was born in the old Waldo County Hospital that was located across High Street from Waterfall Arts, came to poetry the hard way, too.

As a Belfast Area High School senior, he and two friends went to Boston to check out Tufts University, where the sister of one of them was studying. Late one night, after a session at the psychedelic dance club Boston Tea Party, Lawless was struck by a Ford Fairlane traveling at 60 to 70 mph as he crossed the Mass Turnpike.

His body was shattered, and a seven-vehicle pile-up ensued that included a tractor-trailer. He says now he can't remember a thing about the collision, or the two weeks that followed. But he ended up back home in Belfast in a cast that encased his lower body and bandages that hid 36 stitches in his head and a fractured skull.

Kept indoors by his injuries, Lawless read poems by ancient Chinese and Japanese writers who venerated the outdoors. He exchanged letters with Gary Snyder, the California-based naturalist poet celebrated in Jack Kerouac's book Dharma Bums, which Lawless had purchased at Palmer's Stationery on Main Street a few years earlier.

He had no interest in graduate school, so he asked Snyder if he could live with him as an apprentice -- “just like during the Renaissance.” The day after he graduated he hitchhiked to California and began learning about Buddhism and Zen and poetry from a master who would soon win a Pulitzer Prize.

Lawless was puttering about the family home Monday, preparing to plant an apple tree. His mother Ruth, who now lives in a nursing home in Bath, had asked him to reinstall the white wire fence around the ferns that she planted years ago after digging them up in the wild.

His parents – former Police Chief Jake Lawless (there's also a Judge Lawless on the family tree) and former telephone operator Ruth Lawless – were readers, though, and Gary visited bookstores in Camden and Bangor to buy volumes not available in Belfast.

“When I was little, I had three grandparents all living on High Street,” he said, “so I had a good extended family looking out for me.” And as he grew, there were outings to Swan Lake and City Park and the harbor where his love of nature was born.

In recent years, Lawless has challenged language barriers by reading his poems in Italy, Lithuania, Latvia, Cuba and Slovenia. He is provided a translator, he said, because he speaks only English. Once, the translator was drunk and told a story about a river instead of reading his poems, he said.

His work with nonmainstream groups is meant to “use poetry as a way to get them to feel what they have to say is worthwhile. Through poetry, they get a voice, and then they can speak for themselves. They become activists on their own behalf,” he said.

The Spindleworks poets have published two volumes of their work, including a poem describing what it's like to not be able to read that Lawless presented Monday night.



This is excellent. Our missing John Lawless who married Ms. Shutt and has 4 kids was last heard from Bangor when he called home.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 01:22:02 PM
I don't have a Lynnette either.  Closest is Luanne (fraud charges) Lawless.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 01:25:46 PM
Minnie Lawless 1880 Census Data is attached.  The reference to the Nichols being household members is an error on the site.

Lines 37-42

It is not an error.  Her mom was Sarah A Nichols before she married Mack Lawless and they were living with Sarah's parents and siblings.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 01, 2009, 01:26:06 PM
NorRose ::MonkeyRoll::
Which direction should I go???
I came up with nothing more than was already contributed for Violet!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on May 01, 2009, 01:27:06 PM
Is poet Gary a Gary D?

AND

Do we have a Lynette Lawless on here?

I have not see lynette, who is she suppose to be?

a spouse, not blood relative, may not be related, was checking


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 01:27:28 PM
 
Violet Hazel Lawless
Birth: 6 Sep 1886
Rockspring, Patrick, Virginia, United States 
Death: 15 Dec 1966
Haines City, Polk, Florida, United States 

is this the right one you are looking for, if so, I have a lot of info for her





This one

Child 6
Violet Hazel Lawless
B. 6 Sep 1886 Indiana
D FL

Husband 1 Cam Lawson Married 6 Jul 1904 Miami , Indiana


Husband 2
Charles P Kopp Married 3 Jun 1907 Miami, Indiana


Husband 3 Iler Cloud ,married 31 Oct 1908, Miami, Indiana




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 01:32:04 PM
Is poet Gary a Gary D?

AND

Do we have a Lynette Lawless on here?

I have not see lynette, who is she suppose to be?

a spouse, not blood relative, may not be related, was checking

can you email me Sacsayhuan's email, so I can give her the info to give to the person to go find gary. I should have enough here that it would be easy to find if someone could just call places.  I'm not a "caller" LOL  I like to remain anonymous and hidden  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Edit:
Please don't make any calls. 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 01, 2009, 01:32:12 PM
Is poet Gary a Gary D?

AND

Do we have a Lynette Lawless on here?

I have not see lynette, who is she suppose to be?

a spouse, not blood relative, may not be related, was checking
Mornin' Blink
How ya doing?
Gary the Poet seems to be just Gary Lawless...


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 01:35:26 PM
Minnie Lawless 1880 Census Data is attached.  The reference to the Nichols being household members is an error on the site.

Lines 37-42

It is not an error.  Her mom was Sarah A Nichols before she married Mack Lawless and they were living with Sarah's parents and siblings.

who is MACK lawless, is that john mack? or part of his line? do you know right off hand.

gee I am trying to do too many lines at once.  I will stick to timothy john for right now because I am seeing connections up in washington where the ccl lines are.  but I will make notes and toss out info or do lookups.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 01:36:54 PM
Is poet Gary a Gary D?

AND

Do we have a Lynette Lawless on here?

I have not see lynette, who is she suppose to be?

a spouse, not blood relative, may not be related, was checking
Mornin' Blink
How ya doing?
Gary the Poet seems to be just Gary Lawless...

any marrieges on him, or birth date? did he ever live in cali?
in napa?
or glenn county?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 01:37:46 PM
Nrose-
ok I have this one
This one

Child 6
Violet Hazel Lawless
B. 6 Sep 1886 Indiana
D FL

Husband 1 Cam Lawson Married 6 Jul 1904 Miami , Indian
Husband 2 Charles P Kopp Married 3 Jun 1907 Miami, Indiana
Husband 3 Iler Cloud ,married 31 Oct 1908, Miami, Indiana

will post what I have
brb


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 01:42:29 PM
Minnie Lawless 1880 Census Data is attached.  The reference to the Nichols being household members is an error on the site.

Lines 37-42

It is not an error.  Her mom was Sarah A Nichols before she married Mack Lawless and they were living with Sarah's parents and siblings.

who is MACK lawless, is that john mack? or part of his line? do you know right off hand.

gee I am trying to do too many lines at once.  I will stick to timothy john for right now because I am seeing connections up in washington where the ccl lines are.  but I will make notes and toss out info or do lookups.

McNealy (Mack) A. Lawless
B. 16 Feb 1846 , Patrick Va
D. 12 Oct 1908, Peru, Miami, Ind.

Married 1846

Sarah Ann Nicholas daughter of George Nicholas and Mary Warner 1846, Patrick  Co, VA
B. 6 Jul 1842, Patrick County , VA
D. 27 Jan 1914, Peru, Miami, Ind.

These are Minnie's parents.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 01:46:05 PM
Violet Hazel Lawless
Birth: 6 Sep 1886
Rockspring, Patrick, Virginia, United States 
Death: 15 Dec 1966
Haines City, Polk, Florida, United States 

1920 United States Federal Census
about Hazel Harmon
Name: Hazel Harmon
Home in 1920: Kokomo Ward 6, Howard, Indiana
Age: 32 years 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Birthplace: Georgia
Relation to Head-of-house: Wife 
Spouse's name: Robert
Father's Birth Place: Virginia 
Mother's Birth Place: Indiana 
Marital Status: Married 
Race: White
Sex: Female
Able to read: Yes 
Able to Write: Yes 
Image: 749 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Harmon 87 
Hazel Harmon 32 
Agnes Moise 45 
 
1930 United States Federal Census
about Hazel Harmon
Name: Hazel Harmon
Home in 1930: Center, Howard, Indiana
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 
Relation to Head-of-house: Wife 
Spouse's name: Robert
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Harmon 46 
Hazel Harmon 43 
Hattie Ford 17 
William Ford 39 
William Holler 78


 Indiana Marriage Collection, 1800-1941
about Hazel V King
Name: Hazel V King
Spouse Name: Robert M Harmon
Marriage Date: 10 Nov 1919
Marriage County: Miami 
Birth Date: 6 Sep
Age: 32 
Source Title 1: Miami County, Indiana 
Source Title 2: Index to Marriage Record 1850-1920 Inclusive Volum 
Source Title 3: Original Record Located County Clerks Office, Peru 
Book: C 23 
OS Page: 491 
 
Indiana Marriage Collection, 1800-1941
about Violet Cloud
Name: Violet Cloud
Spouse Name: Lee King
Marriage Date: 29 Jun 1912
Marriage County: Miami 
Birth Date: 6 Sep
Age: 26 
Source Title 1: Miami County, Indiana 
Source Title 2: Index to Marriage Record 1850-1920 Inclusive Volum 
Source Title 3: Original Record Located County Clerks Office, Peru 
Book: C-16 
OS Page: 180 

Indiana Marriage Collection, 1800-1941
about Violet H Lawless
Name: Violet H Lawless
Spouse Name: Cam Lawson
Marriage Date: 6 Jul 1904
Marriage County: Miami 
Estimated Birth Year: 1886 
Age: 18 
Source Title 1: Miami County, Indiana 
Source Title 2: Index to Marriage Record 1850-1920 Inclusive Volum 
Source Title 3: Original Record Located County Clerks Office, Peru 
Book: C 11 
OS Page: 481 
 
Indiana Marriage Collection, 1800-1941
about Violet H Lawless
Name: Violet H Lawless
Spouse Name: Iler E Cloud
Marriage Date: 31 Oct 1908
Marriage County: Miami 
Estimated Birth Year: 1886 
Age: 22 
Source Title 1: Miami County, Indiana 
Source Title 2: Index to Marriage Record 1850-1920 Inclusive Volum 
Source Title 3: Original Record Located County Clerks Office, Peru 
Book: C 12 
OS Page: 544 
 
Social Security Death Index
about Hazel V. Dye
Name: Hazel V. Dye
SSN: xxxxx  i have this if you need it, can't post it
Last Residence: 33844  Haines City, Polk, Florida, United States of America
Born: 6 Sep 1886
Died: 15 Dec 1966
State (Year) SSN issued: Florida (1954)
 
1920 United States Federal Census
about Minnie Ellis
Name: Minnie Ellis
Home in 1920: Peru Ward 2, Miami, Indiana
Age: 49 years 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Birthplace: Indiana
Relation to Head-of-house: Wife 
Spouse's name: William
Father's Birth Place: West Virginia 
Mother's Birth Place: Indiana 
Marital Status: Married 
Race: White
Sex: Female
Able to read: Yes 
Able to Write: Yes 
Image: 370 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
William Ellis 59 
Minnie Ellis 49 


 1930 United States Federal Census
about James W Ellis
Name: James W Ellis
Home in 1930: Peru, Miami, Indiana
Age: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 
Birthplace: Kansas 
Relation to Head-of-house: Head 
Spouse's name: Minnie
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
James W Ellis 69 
Minnie Ellis 59 
Viola Gamble   
Charles F Ford 15 
 
 
1880 United States Federal Census
about Minnie M. Lawless
Name: Minnie M. Lawless
Home in 1880: Jackson, Cass, Indiana
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Birthplace: Indiana
Relation to head-of-household: Daughter
Father's Name: Mc. A.
Father's birthplace: Virginia
Mother's Name: Sarah A.
Mother's birthplace: Indiana
Neighbors: View others on page 
Occupation: At Home
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Female
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane: View Image
Household Members: Name Age
Mc. A. Lawless 34 
Sarah A. Lawless 39 
James H. Lawless 14 
Minnie M. Lawless 10 
Walter R. Lawless 7 
Franklin C. Lawless 2 
George Nicholes 61 
Mary Nicholes 59 
William E. Nicholes 27 
Peter Nicholes 25 
Elisabeth Nicholes 20 
Sameul Nicholes 16 
Noah Nicholes 14 
Franklin Nicholes 12 
 
 1900 United States Federal Census
about Minnie Ellis
Name: Minnie Ellis
Home in 1900: Peru, Miami, Indiana
Age: 31
Birth Date: Dec 1868
Birthplace: Indiana
Race: White
Ethnicity: American 
Gender: Female 
Relationship to head-of-house: Wife
Father's Birthplace: Virginia 
Mother's Birthplace: Indiana 
Mother: number of living children: 0 
Mother: How many children: 0 
Spouse's name: William J
Marriage Year: 1888 
Marital Status: Married 
Years Married: 12 
Residence : Peru City, Miami, Indiana
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
William J Ellis 39 
Minnie Ellis 31 
Franklin C Lawless 22 
 
 1910 United States Federal Census
about Minnie M Ellis
Name: Minnie M Ellis
[Minnie M Lawless] 
Age in 1910: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Birthplace: Indiana
Relation to Head-of-house: Wife 
Father's Birth Place: Virginia 
Mother's Name: Sarrah A 
Mother's Birth Place: Indiana 
Spouse's name: James W
Home in 1910: Peru Ward 2, Miami, Indiana
Marital Status: Married 
Race: White
Gender: Female 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
James W Ellis 49 
Minnie M Ellis 39 
Sarrah A Lawless 67 
 
 

 



 

 

 

 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 01:46:19 PM
NorRose ::MonkeyRoll::
Which direction should I go???
I came up with nothing more than was already contributed for Violet!

Can you keep after Gary Lawless the poet and his partner that was posted a page back.

these are his parents.  Lets see if he has siblings, etc. anything on his parents, surely as a writer there has to be more info that he has out there as a biography.

His parents – former Police Chief Jake Lawless (there's also a Judge Lawless on the family tree) and former telephone operator Ruth Lawless – were readers, though, and Gary visited bookstores in Camden and Bangor to buy volumes not available in Belfast.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 01, 2009, 01:48:20 PM
Is poet Gary a Gary D?

AND

Do we have a Lynette Lawless on here?

I have not see lynette, who is she suppose to be?

a spouse, not blood relative, may not be related, was checking
Mornin' Blink
How ya doing?
Gary the Poet seems to be just Gary Lawless...

any marrieges on him, or birth date? did he ever live in cali?
in napa?
or glenn county?

Snipped:
http://waldo.villagesoup.com/Community/story.cfm?storyID=156380 (http://waldo.villagesoup.com/Community/story.cfm?storyID=156380)
Gary is married to/partners with Ruth Leonard.
He traveled to California...
"The day after he graduated he hitchhiked to California and began learning about Buddhism and Zen and poetry from a master who would soon win a Pulitzer Prize."


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 01, 2009, 01:49:37 PM
NorRose ::MonkeyRoll::
Which direction should I go???
I came up with nothing more than was already contributed for Violet!

Can you keep after Gary Lawless the poet and his partner that was posted a page back.

these are his parents.  Lets see if he has siblings, etc. anything on his parents, surely as a writer there has to be more info that he has out there as a biography.

His parents – former Police Chief Jake Lawless (there's also a Judge Lawless on the family tree) and former telephone operator Ruth Lawless – were readers, though, and Gary visited bookstores in Camden and Bangor to buy volumes not available in Belfast.

Thanks for the direction NorRose! ::MonkeyDance::
I'm on it!
Gary and Ruth!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 01:51:51 PM
This can not be right.  There is a 37 year difference in their ages.  It must have been transcribed wrong and should be 37

1920 United States Federal Census
about Hazel Harmon
Name: Hazel Harmon
Home in 1920: Kokomo Ward 6, Howard, Indiana
Age: 32 years 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Birthplace: Georgia
Relation to Head-of-house: Wife 
Spouse's name: Robert
Father's Birth Place: Virginia 
Mother's Birth Place: Indiana 
Marital Status: Married 
Race: White
Sex: Female
Able to read: Yes 
Able to Write: Yes 
Image: 749 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Harmon 87 
Hazel Harmon 32 
Agnes Moise 45 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on May 01, 2009, 01:53:46 PM
DD

as you requested, check your e.. Also, you should have gotten one from me yesterday?
B


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 01, 2009, 01:54:04 PM
Snipped:
http://www.uuchurchsacobiddeford.com/garylawless.html (http://www.uuchurchsacobiddeford.com/garylawless.html)

Gary Lawless is sponsored by this CHURCH:
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/church_frontview.jpg)
Sponsored by the Unitarian Universalist Church of Saco and Biddeford
60 School Street, Saco, ME 04072 (directions)

                             


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 02:07:46 PM
sorry have to run, school called, son is hurt.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on May 01, 2009, 02:10:45 PM
sorry have to run, school called, son is hurt.

O my, I hope he is ok-

I have to take off for Mommy duties until this eve as well, have a great day 2nd shift :)

B


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 01, 2009, 02:17:24 PM
sorry have to run, school called, son is hurt.

O my, I hope he is ok-

I have to take off for Mommy duties until this eve as well, have a great day 2nd shift :)

B
I hope he is OK too, NorRose!
BBL
LM
(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss13/steaveoogway/funny-monkey.jpg)


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Wyks on May 01, 2009, 02:27:15 PM
Thanks all for the answers on Monique and Deirdre!  A lot of hard work going on in here!   ::MonkeyDance:: 







Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 02:29:05 PM
  ::MonkeyConfused::  I know this is going to sound very idiotic, but --- when I was doing a genealogical study about 10 years ago - the books I read - suggested to call the Mormons -  I have to go find the books - and find out their mailing address and telephone numbers.  Apparently they have an extensive library and research material.  Don't kill the messenger - just an idea.

mormons are THE genalogists of all time.  but they are doing the very same thing we are LOL.  It all just takes time.  I am in a lot of the LDS records looking also.  but calling them might help.  Someone in there might have a pedigree already done that will save us a ton of time.  Any mormon church will have access to lds records.  they have a lot of this stuff on microfische and cd.  if you go to their family history center their are volunteers there who will help you do your lookups


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 02:30:53 PM
NorRose ::MonkeyRoll::
Which direction should I go???
I came up with nothing more than was already contributed for Violet!

Can you keep after Gary Lawless the poet and his partner that was posted a page back.

these are his parents.  Lets see if he has siblings, etc. anything on his parents, surely as a writer there has to be more info that he has out there as a biography.

His parents – former Police Chief Jake Lawless (there's also a Judge Lawless on the family tree) and former telephone operator Ruth Lawless – were readers, though, and Gary visited bookstores in Camden and Bangor to buy volumes not available in Belfast.


paul lawless owned a bookstore back there somewhere, I posted the info in this thread somewhere back there.  I can't remember which paul lawless it was.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on May 01, 2009, 02:52:45 PM
Afternoon Monks!!

 Sorry for my absence recently but had to tend to home and family matters.  I have alot of notes and links that I hadn't posted earlier because I wasn't sure if they had any relevance.  After I finished catching up I saw a lot of names that I've seen in my notes.  Am going through them now to pull out any useful info.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 01, 2009, 02:56:17 PM
This is probably nothing...but I went to www.whitepages.com

Gary D Jr Lawless Jr home

32288 Rock Creek Rd

Manton, CA 96059-8606

(530) Edit-No phone numbers please

Listing Details
Age: 40-44
SPONSORED LINKS
Lookup Background Info for Gary Lawless.

Gary D Lawlesshome

3080 S Yale St

Wichita, KS 67210-1426

phone number unavailable

Listing Details
Age: 65+
SPONSORED LINKS
Lookup Background Info for Gary Lawless.
 
Also in  Canada
Gary Lawlesshome

10809 Saskatchewan Dr NW, # 10809

Edmonton, AB T6E 4S5

(780) Edit-No phone numbers please
Listing Details
SPONSORED LINKS
Lookup Background Info for Gary Lawless.
Equifax Credit Watch™ 
 

 Make it easy for people to contact you on WhitePages.com

Learn moreAdd your listing
Gary Lawlesswork

2330 Millrace Crt, Unit 5

Mississauga, ON L5N 1W2

(800) 561-9100

Listing Details
Job title: President

Company: Simms T. S. & Co.
SPONSORED LINKS
Lookup Background Info for Gary Lawless.
Equifax Credit Watch™ 
 

 Garry Lawlesswork

5714 Gateway Blvd Nw

Edmonton, AB T6H 2H5

(780) Edit-No phone numbers please

Listing Details
Job title: President & Board Member

Company: G M L Home Services
SPONSORED LINKS
Lookup Background Info for Garry Lawless.
Equifax Credit Watch™ 
 

 Garry Lawlesshome

street address not available


Charlottetown, PE

(902) Edit-No phone numbers please

Listing Details

This maybe the Gary Lawless that was on the www.winnipegfreepress.ca website

G Lawlesshome
84 Cloverwood Rd
Winnipeg, MB R3Y 1R6
(204) Edit-No phone numbers pleaseType: Land Line
Provider: MTS Communications
Location: Winnipeg, Mb, MB
Due to number portability, some numbers have been transferred to a new service provider.


 
 
 

 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on May 01, 2009, 02:59:22 PM
sorry have to run, school called, son is hurt.

Oh no! I hope he is ok!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 01, 2009, 03:15:31 PM
Violet Hazel Lawless    Compact Disc #66     Pin #880691 Pedigree
 Sex:  F 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Event(s)
 Birth:   6 Sep 1886
 
  Rockspring, Patrick, VA 
 Death:   
 
  FL 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Parents
 Father:  McNealy A. (Mack) Lawless     Disc #66     Pin #880682   
 Mother:  Sarah Ann Nicholas     Disc #66     Pin #880473 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Marriage(s)
 Spouse:  Charles P. Kopp     Disc #66     Pin #880692 
 Marriage:  3 Jun 1907
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=/eng/search/ancestorsearchresults.asp


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 03:56:41 PM
This is probably nothing...but I went to www.whitepages.com

Gary D Jr Lawless Jr home

32288 Rock Creek Rd

Manton, CA 96059-8606

(530) Edit-No phone numbers please

snipped quote for room

this is the son gary duane lawless, brother of timothy john lawless and jeffrey carl lawless, mother marylin elizabeth lawless who married Gary D lawless who we cannot figure out where he went. 

from the birth records of kids, the marriage licence, it looks like Gary(the father) was in Glenn County in 1964, in napa by april 1966 through June 1968

the mother and kids show up in butte county, tehema county, shasta county.

there is a gary lawless in butte county court for warrants, one of which is failing to register as a sex offender and also court docs for mother and son jeffrey for battery on gary d lawless. 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 03:59:15 PM
gary lawless in maine
The day after he graduated he hitchhiked to California and began learning about Buddhism and Zen and poetry  from a master who would soon win a Pulitzer Prize.

I wonder who this master is?  and I wonder if this was in Berkeley?  hmmmm


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 04:08:15 PM
he's a BEAT wow!!! unreal
anyone familar with the "beats"? 
I thought I had a big HMMMMM going on here.


He exchanged letters with Gary Snyder, the California-based naturalist poet celebrated in Jack Kerouac's book Dharma Bums, which Lawless had purchased at Palmer's Stationery on Main Street a few years earlier.

He had no interest in graduate school, so he asked Snyder if he could live with him as an apprentice -- “just like during the Renaissance.” The day after he graduated he hitchhiked to California and began learning about Buddhism and Zen and poetry from a master who would soon win a Pulitzer Prize.
________________________--

In 1954 in San Francisco, Ginsberg met Peter Orlovsky, with whom he fell in love and who remained his life-long partner.[6]

Also in San Francisco Ginsberg met members of the San Francisco Renaissance and other poets who would later be associated with the Beat Generation in a broader sense. Ginsberg's mentor William Carlos Williams wrote an introductory letter to San Francisco Renaissance figurehead Kenneth Rexroth, who then introduced Ginsberg into the San Francisco poetry scene. There, Ginsberg also met three budding poets and Zen enthusiasts who were friends at Reed College: Gary Snyder, Philip Whalen, and Lew Welch. In 1959, along with poets John Kelly, Bob Kaufman, A. D. Winans, and William Margolis, Ginsberg was one of the founders of the Beatitude poetry magazine



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 04:45:24 PM
Gary D Lawlesshome
3080 S Yale St
Wichita, WICHITA, KS

BELLE PLAINE, KS

for this address is:
Possible Relatives
LAWLESS, SIR GARY (Age 67)   KS 67210-1426
Age: 65+


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 04:56:03 PM
Ok back.  So Gary the poet is a Beat.   ::MonkeyDance::

Anything on his parents and if he has siblings?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: justwondering on May 01, 2009, 05:00:27 PM
Is this a Gary we are looking for?
http://www.theburnstudio.com/our_staff.html  (See his picture)

The Burn Studio, Inc.  •  1031 North Victory Place  •  Burbank, CA  •  (818) 847-0177  •   info@theburnstudio.com

"GARY LAWLESS has been following the sport of bodybuilding/fitness for over 20 years. He has been active in sports his whole life, competing in soccer, baseball, football, beach volleyball, martial arts, and water skiing. He became a certified  personal trainer in 2000. He trains men and women of all ages including competitive figure athletes. He has been taught by the best in the industry."


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 05:16:49 PM
Gary Lawless married to Terri L Leach One I have not looked at yet.

Akron Beacon Journal (OH) - November 4, 1998 - B11 DEATH NOTICE

DEATH NOTICE / CLASSIFIED 
  Edna D. Leach Edna D. Leach, 94, of Hiram, died Monday. Preceded in death by her parents, Charles and Augusta (Kading) Dade; her husband, Sherman D. Leach Sr.; her son, Sherman Jr.; and 10 brothers and sisters, she is survived by her daughters, Sylvia (Howard) Boyd, Terri L. (Gary) Lawless; three grandchildren, and seven great-grandchildren. Funeral services will be private. Contributions may be made to Hiram Fire Department or to Hiram Christian Church. (Mallory-DeHaven-Carlson,... 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: justwondering on May 01, 2009, 05:18:05 PM
Here's another Gary D Lawless, but I don't think it has anything to do with this.  I am just posting if DD wants to look at it later.

http://www.sumgenius.com.au/lawless_family_tree.htm

LAWLESS Family Tree
with links to British India

Gary David LAWLESS  born, 6.8.1965


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on May 01, 2009, 05:38:10 PM
Luann L Campbell
View Details
Age 52 
Stockton, CA
Tracy, CA

Detroit Lakes, MN
Pel Rapids, MN
Isleton, CA           

Scott R Campbell
Colin C Campbell
Elaine C Campbell
Lou Ann Campbell
Monique Ann Campbell
Lu Ann Campbell
Casey S Campbell
Dustin A Campbell
Lu-ann Campbell 

http://www.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&qf=luann&qmi=&qn=campbell&qs=&trackit=74


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Wyks on May 01, 2009, 05:47:40 PM
Luann L Campbell
View Details
Age 52 
Stockton, CA
Tracy, CA

Detroit Lakes, MN
Pel Rapids, MN
Isleton, CA           

Scott R Campbell
Colin C Campbell
Elaine C Campbell
Lou Ann Campbell
Monique Ann Campbell
Lu Ann Campbell
Casey S Campbell
Dustin A Campbell
Lu-ann Campbell 

http://www.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&qf=luann&qmi=&qn=campbell&qs=&trackit=74

Thanks 4getUnot!

Monique has more last names than Carter's has pills!  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/smiley-gahh.gif)


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 05:51:15 PM
will someone else take a look at this and give your opinion, is this the wrong melissa huckay and all a coincidence?  or is this her and the age(1 yr) and middle initial is off? (S instead of C)

below there is an address of 200 school and also an address of 200 sheila... it's possible one of these is not right?  they both are the street # of 200.  they are listed that way in the search engine with "a" melissa huckaby so I listed them here they way they show up in the search data base. 


the search in oakdale was across the street from arnold and judy Thomas(said to be the cousin of sinclair, but no sinclair I can find)
Arnold A Thomas
262 School Ave
Oakdale, CA 95361-2816
Household: Judy L Thomas


Judy L Thomas
262 School Ave
Oakdale, CA 95361-2816

directly across the steet is

Catherine M Johnson  who is this johnson?
263 School Ave

Oakdale, CA 95361-2815
(209) Edit-No phone numbers please

others listed at this address are
263 SCHOOL OAKDALE, CA
__________________________________
OAKDALE, CA
RIVERBANK, CA
BERKELEY, CA

Possible Relatives:

BALLARD, JACK VINCENT
BALLARD, MARGUERITE A (Age 53)
ANDERSON, JENNIFER J (Age 49)
ANDERSON, STEPHEN E (Age 51)
BALLARDHAUB, CHRISTINE D (Age 36)
ANDERSON, GREG
ANDERSON, GRETCHEN E (Age 50)
BALLARD, ROSS V (Age 60)
BALLARD, JENNIFER L
________________________________
HUGHSON, CA
TURLOCK, CA
OAKDALE, CA
MODESTO, CA
KNIGHTS FERRY, CA

Possible Relatives:

GONZALEZ, SARA (Age 51)
GONZALES, TERECITA (Age 34)
GONZALES, SUSANNA CHRISTINA (Age 54)
GONZALES, JANET L
WILLOUGHBY, RICHARD M (Age 35)
GONZALES, MICHEALA L (Age 29)
GONZALES, ANDY G (Age 39)
GONZALES, EMIGH NICHOLE (Age 28)
GONZALES, GREG P
_________________________________
TURLOCK, CA
MODESTO, CA
OAKDALE, CA

Possible Relatives:

GONZALEZ, SARA (Age 51)
GONZALES, SUSANNA CHRISTINA (Age 54)
GONZALES, TERECITA (Age 34)
LEE, GONZALES (Age 55)
WILLOUGHBY, RICHARD M (Age 35)
GONZALES, EMIGH NICHOLE (Age 28)
GONZALES, ANDY G (Age 39)
GONZALES, MICHEALA L (Age 29)
GONZALES, GREG P
_________________________________
OAKDALE, CA
SANTA CRUZ, CA
MODESTO, CA

Possible Relatives:  who are all these johnson names?

JOHNSON, MARK A (Age 43)
METCALF MCGEE, CHERYL D (Age 53)
FISKUM, LORALEE D
JOHNSTON, DAVID ALLEN (Age 50)
SISK, WILLIAM DAVID (Age 51)
JOHNSON, DONALD ARTHUR (Age 83)
FISKUM, WAYNE A
FISKUM, CATHY J (Age 45)
JOHNSON, KENNA M

Possible Roommates / Associates:

EVANS, CHERYL DIANE (Age 53)
_______________________________
OAKDALE, CA

Possible Relatives:

ANDERSON, CORRINE L (Age 60)
DAVIS, TIMOTHY B (Age 43)
ANDERSON, GREG
ANDERSON, GRETCHEN E (Age 54)
ANDERSON, JONATHAN D (Age 35)
DAVIS, BRUCE TIMOTHY  timothy bruce Davis
ANDERSON, GREG

trying to remember, wasn't there a bruce or timothy davis in the washington paper with one of the lawless'?  
______________________________________________
Possible Employment / Business Associations:

HORIZON CONTRACTOR SUPPLIES & EQUIPMENT SALES Durable Goods, NEC
_____________________________________
RIVERBANK, CA
TURLOCK, CA
OAKDALE, CA
HUGHSON, CA
MODESTO, CA

Possible Relatives:

LEE, GONZALES (Age 55)
GONZALES, JANET L
GONZALES, MICHEALA L (Age 29)
GONZALES, ANDY G (Age 39)
GONZALES, JAN L
___________________________________
OAKDALE, CA
RIVERBANK, CA

Possible Relatives:

ANDERSON, CORRINE L (Age 60)
ANDERSON, GREG
ANDERSON, GRETCHEN E (Age 50)
ANDERSON, DONNA L (Age 75)
STANLEY, ANDERSON F (Age 76)
ANDERSON, GREGORY E (Age 54)
ANDERSON, CORINNE D
ANDERSON, JONATHAN D (Age 35)
ANDERSON, GREGORY

Possible Roommates / Associates:

DAVIS, TIMOTHY B (Age 43)
______________________________
HUGHSON, CA
TURLOCK, CA
OAKDALE, CA

Possible Relatives:

GONZALES, JANET L
LEE, GONZALES (Age 55)
GONZALES, MICHEALA L (Age 29)
GONZALES, EMIGH NICHOLE (Age 28)
GONZALES, JAN L
_____________________
OAKDALE, CA

Possible Relatives:

ANDERSON, CORRINE L (Age 60)

__________________________________
Possible Employment / Business Associations:

C & G TRACTOR SERVICE Typewriter Repair
OAKDALE, CA

Possible Relatives:

ANDERSON, GRETCHEN E (Age 50)
ANDERSON, CORRINE L (Age 60)
ANDERSON, GRETCHEN E (Age 54)
__________________________
OAKDALE, CA

Possible Relatives:

GONZALES, JANET L
LEE, GONZALES (Age 55)
GONZALES, EMIGH NICHOLE (Age 28)
GONZALES, ANDY G (Age 39)

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who is this melissa huckaby on the same block of school street that is searched in Oakdale, which is listed with possible relatives of donald r huckaby who is at the primitive baptist church in Tracy, who also as possible relatives with the phone number of melissa huckaby.   
at 200 school ave is
Melissa Huckaby

200 School Ave
Modesto, CA
she shares a phone number with the rest of these people
but the age is one year off and the middle initial is S not C but other things match
.

is this the other melissa huckaby in tracy/manteca who just happens to be part of the family of the primitive baptist church in tracy ALSO lives on the same street in the same block as the house searched in oakdale, and also has another address in Modesto with Wohler?  ::MonkeyEek::

are these people relatives of johnny huckaby, x husband of the melissa huckaby/lawless?  or is this HER?  Or is this just one really weird coincidence?  


(209) 522-0628

MANTECA, CA
MODESTO, CA
TRACY, CA

Possible Relatives:

HUCKABY, DONALD R (Age 75) see tracy church below
HUCKABY, CAROLYN D (Age 73)
HUCKABY, STNALEY R (Age 58)
HUCKABY, CYNTHIA D (Age 48)
HUCKABY, DOLORES
HUCKABY, CHRISTOPHER (Age 24)
HUCKABY, DELORES
HUCKABY, WILLIAM T
HUCKABY, RUBY

this phone number is connected to :

MELISSA HUCKABY Record Created: 05/2005
200 SCHOOL AVE same street they searched
MODESTO, CA 95351
(209) Edit-No phone numbers please  


MELISSA HUCKABY Record Created: 05/2004
200 SHEILA CT
MODESTO, CA
(209) 522-0628


200 SCHOOL MODESTO, CA

MANTECA, CA
MODESTO, CA
TRACY, CA

Possible Relatives:

HUCKABY, DONALD R (Age 75) see tracy church below
HUCKABY, CAROLYN D (Age 73)
HUCKABY, STNALEY R (Age 58)
HUCKABY, CYNTHIA D (Age 48)
HUCKABY, DOLORES
HUCKABY, CHRISTOPHER (Age 24)
HUCKABY, DELORES
HUCKABY, WILLIAM T
HUCKABY, RUBY



also listed at 200 sheila modesto is:

John T. Wohler  
WOHLER, DAWN M


___________________________



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 05:55:52 PM
tracy non-profit tax exempt
Donald R Huckaby (above posts)


FIRM FOUNDATION PRIMITIVE BAPTIST CHURCH OF CHRIST
647 LOURENCE CT
TRACY, CA

95376-8737
Asset Amount n/r
Income Amount n/r
Form 990 Revenue Amount n/r
Employer Identification Number
(nine digit number assigned by the IRS to identify a company) (available with data download)
In Care Of Name
(the officer, director, etc. to whose attention any correspondence should be directed) DONALD R HUCKABY see above
Classification
(category under which an organization may be tax exempt) Religious Organization
Filing Requirement
(the primary return(s) the organization is required to file) Form 990 - Not required to file (church)
Taxonomy
(classifies an exempt Internal Revenue Code 501 (c)(3) organization) Religion Related, Spiritual Development N.E.C.
Secondary Name
(another name under which this nonprofit organization does business. Also used for trade names, chapter names, or local numbers for subordinate organizations of group rulings) n/r
Affiliation
(defines the organizational grouping) This organization is an independent organization or an independent auxiliary (i.e., not affiliated with a National, Regional, or Geographic grouping of organizations).
Deductibility Status Contributions are deductible
Principal Activity (available with data download)
Foundation Type Church
Tax Period
(the date of the latest return filed) n/r
Accounting Period
(accounting month end date of organization) 12



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on May 01, 2009, 05:56:27 PM
Ok back.  So Gary the poet is a Beat.   ::MonkeyDance::

Anything on his parents and if he has siblings?

What is "a Beat?"


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on May 01, 2009, 05:58:37 PM
Ok back.  So Gary the poet is a Beat.   ::MonkeyDance::

Anything on his parents and if he has siblings?

What is "a Beat?"

The other MH lives in Manteca


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 06:28:08 PM
johnny huckaby also has a manteca listing..

_____________________

but now look at this..

LAWLESS, GARY DUANE (Age 43)
SCHUTZENHOFER, CYNTHIA MARIE (Age 39)
GOMES, BURNHAM
GOMES, MARYLIN E (Age 71) timothy's mother
GOMES, GARY D
NEASBITT, CHONA JEAN (Age 35)
GOMES, JEFFERY C (Age 41)
LAWLESS, CHONA J (Age 35)
LAWLESS, GARYE

Possible Roommates / Associates:

DAVIS, TIMOTHY
((edit - old roommate not involved))

is this the same timothy bruce davis/bruce timothy davis, above with the school street address above.  this one is with gary duane lawless brother of timothy john lawless.   


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: justwondering on May 01, 2009, 06:29:47 PM
Ok back.  So Gary the poet is a Beat.   ::MonkeyDance::

Anything on his parents and if he has siblings?

What is "a Beat?"

I am posting one of the 50 definitions from urban dictionary.  I forgot most of you weren't alive in the 50's!

beatnik    
   
Jazz hippies in berets.
"Like. . . .wow daddio." Beatnik speak.




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on May 01, 2009, 06:33:39 PM
Ok back.  So Gary the poet is a Beat.   ::MonkeyDance::

Anything on his parents and if he has siblings?

What is "a Beat?"

I am posting one of the 50 definitions from urban dictionary.  I forgot most of you weren't alive in the 50's!

beatnik    
   
Jazz hippies in berets.
"Like. . . .wow daddio." Beatnik speak.



LOL ohhhhh a beatnik! That I know. Thanks!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on May 01, 2009, 06:39:56 PM
http://www.tracypress.com/pages/full_story?page_label=results_content&id=2323517-Life+suddenly+scary+for+the+other+Melissa+Huckaby&widget=push&article-Life%20suddenly%20scary%20for%20the%20other%20Melissa%20Huckaby%20=&open=&

This is a story of the "other" MH

It says she has an "S" for a middle initial. Her parents are stan and Cyndi Huckaby


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 06:46:50 PM
Here's another Gary D Lawless, but I don't think it has anything to do with this.  I am just posting if DD wants to look at it later.

http://www.sumgenius.com.au/lawless_family_tree.htm

LAWLESS Family Tree
with links to British India

Gary David LAWLESS  born, 6.8.1965

missing gary d lawless is born about 1933.  he would be about 76 years old now if still living


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 06:57:31 PM
"The Beats" out of wichita kansas, then went to berkeley, they got allen ghinsberg interested in "the vortex" so he went to wichita to see what it was all about,  It became a whole movement, many of the wichita beats went out to berkeley. 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 07:01:30 PM
ooops did not mean to post that yet

anyway, when you have time you can read all about the whole thing here. Many of them are still in berkeley.  It's really not just beatniks, its something much more complicated.  It encompasses a LOT of things.  It is very good to understand if you are studying any unsolved crimes etc out of this generation.  You can get a real feel for what is going on at the time.
http://www.vlib.us/beats/


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 07:26:53 PM
hmmm kathy lawless page,
they pulled off all the photos
http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:yZ8pGGdsQGMJ:www.classmates.com/directory/public/memberprofile/list.htm%3FregId%3D8698225803+lawless+lewiston+id&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 07:33:14 PM
so this person went to state prison there

Bittleston said he has not been contacted by the authorities and has “no recollection” of Lane Lawless or of “any connection” to the Cantu case. Asked if there’d ever been allegations of child abuse and/or molestation at the church, he replied, “At one time, there was some… but it was an adult not involved with any of that name (Lawless) that I’m aware of.”

“We at the church found an elderly person who was doing some not-good things, so it went to court and he was sent into state jurisdiction” – meaning state prison, Bittleston said. “I was called in on that but I can’t see where there was any connection there… Any time that a church is working with children you’re going to have a certain amount of that … but we took it right to the authorities and it was taken care of.”


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 07:51:17 PM
Name:   Lawless, Gerald Francis  Year of birth:  1955     
City:  Spokane  State:  WA   


Case History
Kootenai  County, ID
1  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Gerald Francis Lawless   
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-2000-0066443   Magistrate   Judge:  To Be Assigned   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  08/10/2000  I49-432 Registration-vio Of Trip Permit And Display
Arresting Officer:  Leonard 3161, P, POE  111945  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 08/16/2000
Fines/fees: $48.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  08/10/2000  New Case Filed 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 07:53:02 PM
Name:   Lawless, John Frances  Year of birth:  1964   
City:  Driggs  State:  ID   



Case History
Kootenai 
1  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. John Frances Lawless   
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-2007-0006601   Magistrate   Judge:  To Be Assigned   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  03/27/2007  I49-801 Traffic Control Devices-fail To Obey
Arresting Officer:  Lind 2816, S, ISP  1266855  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 04/09/2007
Fines/fees: $62.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  03/28/2007  New Case Filed 
  04/09/2007  Guilty Plea Or Admission Of Guilt - GT (I49-801 Traffic Control Devices-fail To Obey) 
  04/09/2007  Sentenced To Pay Fine (I49-801 Traffic Control Devices-fail To Obey) 
  04/09/2007  Case status changed: closed pending clerk action 
  04/16/2007  Case status changed (batch process) 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 07:54:11 PM
Name:   Lawless, Robert Joseph  Year of birth:  1927     
City:  Hayden Lake  State:  ID   


Case History
Kootenai 
1  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Robert Joseph Lawless   
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-2003-0011080   Magistrate   Judge:  To Be Assigned   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  05/27/2003  I49-807(2) Stop Sign-fail To Stop/yield From
Arresting Officer:  Dalton Officer,, DGPD  82543  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 06/02/2003
Fines/fees: $53.00
 
  05/27/2003  I49-673 Safety Restraint-fail To Use
Arresting Officer:  Dalton Officer,, DGPD  82543  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 06/02/2003
Fines/fees: $5.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  05/28/2003  New Case Filed 
  06/02/2003  Guilty Plea Or Admission Of Guilt - GT (I49-807(2) Stop Sign-fail To Stop/yield From) 
  06/02/2003  Sentenced To Pay Fine (I49-807(2) Stop Sign-fail To Stop/yield From) 
  06/02/2003  Guilty Plea Or Admission Of Guilt - GT (I49-673 Safety Restraint-fail To Use) 
  06/02/2003  Sentenced To Pay Fine (I49-673 Safety Restraint-fail To Use) 
  06/02/2003  Case status changed: closed pending clerk action 
  06/09/2003  Case status changed (batch process) 
  08/04/2003  Case status changed (batch process) 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 07:55:29 PM
Name:   Lawless, Elwood M  Year of birth:  1910     
City:  Alhambra  State:  CA   
Case History
Lewis 
1  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Elwood M Lawless   
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-1992-0012868   Magistrate   Judge:  Magistrate Court Clerks   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  08/20/1992  I49-654(2) Speed-exceed Maximum Speed Limit
Arresting Officer:  Hanson, Scott, 1000  246919  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 08/25/1992
Fines/fees: $43.00 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 07:58:08 PM
here is amanda in lewistong, she is with richard ray lawless - child rapist

Name:   Lawless, Amanda Marie   Year of birth:  1978   
City:  Lewiston  State:  ID     

he is listed as a JR on here.


Case History
Nez Perce 
1  Cases Found. 
Amanda Marie Lawless vs. Richard Ray Lawless Jr   
Case: CV-2005-0001960  Magistrate   Filed:  09/06/2005  Subtype:  Domestic Relations   Judge:  Michael Griffin   Status:  Closed  11/03/2005 
  Defendants: Lawless, Richard Ray Jr   
  Plaintiffs: Lawless, Amanda Marie   
 
Disposition:  Date  Judgment Type  Disposition Date  Disposition Type  Parties  In Favor Of 
  11/03/2005  Divorce    Lawless, Richard Ray Jr (Defendant), Lawless, Amanda Marie (Plaintiff)  Unknown  
 
Register of actions:  Date   
  09/06/2005  New Case Filed-Domestic Relations 
  09/06/2005  Filing: F1 - Divorce/Legal Separation Paid by: Jones, Brower & Callery Receipt number: 0264604 Dated: 09/06/2005 Amount: $123.00 (Check) 
  09/06/2005  Plaintiff: Lawless, Amanda Marie Attorney Retained Robert L Brower 
  09/08/2005  Acceptance Of Service - 9/8/2005 
  10/13/2005  Completion - Focus on Children - Plaintiff 
  10/13/2005  Completion - Focus on Children - Defendant 
  11/02/2005  Affidavit For Default 
  11/02/2005  Child Support Order Transmittal Form 
  11/02/2005  Child Support Work Sheet 
  11/02/2005  Affidavit Verifying Income 
  11/02/2005  Affidavit For Default 
  11/02/2005  Affidavit Of Non-military Service 
  11/02/2005  Hearing Scheduled (Default Divorce 11/03/2005 01:00 PM) 
  11/03/2005  Hearing result for Default Divorce held on 11/03/2005 01:00 PM: Hearing Held 
  11/03/2005  Order For Default 
  11/03/2005  Decree of divorce 
  11/03/2005  Disposition With Hearing 
  11/03/2005  Final Judgement, Order Or Decree Entered 
  11/03/2005  Case Status Changed: Closed 
  11/03/2005  Civil Disposition entered for: Lawless, Richard Ray Jr, Defendant; Lawless, Amanda Marie, Plaintiff. order date: 11/3/2005   
  10/09/2008  Miscellaneous Payment: For Making Copy Of Any File Or Record By The Clerk, Per Page Paid by: Lawless, Amanda Marie Receipt number: 0322810 Dated: 10/9/2008 Amount: $11.00 (Check) 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 08:00:55 PM
here she is again

Name:   Lawless, Amanda M  Year of birth:  1978   
City:  Clarkston  State:  WA   


Case History
Nez Perce 
3  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Amanda M Lawless   
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-2005-0000317   Magistrate   Judge:  Court Clerk   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  01/12/2005  I49-801 Traffic Control Devices-fail To Obey  
Arresting Officer:  Hendrick, Leslie, LPD  91540  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 01/21/2005
Fines/fees: $53.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  01/13/2005  New Case Filed 
  01/13/2005  Prosecutor Assigned Jamie C. Shropshire 
  01/13/2005  Criminal Complaint 
  01/13/2005  Hearing Scheduled (Arraignment 01/26/2005 04:00 PM) 
  01/21/2005  Hearing result for Arraignment held on 01/26/2005 04:00 PM: Hearing Vacated 
  01/21/2005  Guilty Plea Or Admission Of Guilt (I49-801 Traffic Control Devices-fail To Obey) 
  01/21/2005  Case Status Changed: closed pending clerk action 
  01/21/2005  Infraction Deferred Payment Agreement 
  07/27/2007  Case Status Changed (batch process) 
 
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
State of Idaho vs. Amanda M Lawless   
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-2002-0084398   Magistrate   Judge:  Court Clerk   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  09/17/2002  I49-672 Driving-passenger Safety Child Under 4 Yoa/40 Lbs  
Arresting Officer:  Augello, Sam, LPD  74168  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 10/09/2002
Fines/fees: $60.00
 
  09/17/2002  I49-673 Safety Restraint-fail To Use  
Arresting Officer:  Augello, Sam, LPD  74168  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 10/09/2002
Fines/fees: $5.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  09/18/2002  New Case Filed 
  10/09/2002  Guilty Plea Or Admission Of Guilt (I49-672 Driving-passenger Safety Child Under 4 Yoa/40 Lbs) 
  10/09/2002  Guilty Plea Or Admission Of Guilt (I49-673 Safety Restraint-fail To Use) 
  10/09/2002  Case Status Changed: closed pending clerk action 
  03/21/2003  Case Status Changed (batch process) 
 
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Amanda M Lawless, etal. vs. Cheryl Lynn Huddleston   
Case: CV-1998-0001779  Magistrate   Filed:  10/05/1998  Subtype:  Small Claims   Judge:  Stephen L. Calhoun   Status:  Closed  12/23/1998 
  Defendants: Huddleston, Cheryl Lynn   
  Plaintiffs: Lawless, Amanda M  Lawless, Rick     
Register of actions:  Date   
  10/05/1998  New Case Filed 
  10/05/1998  Small Claims 
  10/05/1998  Complaint Filed 
  10/05/1998  Summons Issued 
  10/15/1998  Answer To Claim 
  10/16/1998  Court Trial Scheduled - Small Claims (12/23/1998) Stephen Calhoun 
  11/05/1998  Summons Returned-served-10-5-98-cheryl 
  12/23/1998  Hearing Held 
  12/23/1998  Disposition With Hearing 
  12/23/1998  Judgment 
  12/23/1998  Final Judgement, Order Or Decree Entered 
  09/27/1999  Satisfaction Of Judgment 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 08:04:31 PM
 this last name is listed with someone we have.
Name:   Lawless, Heather Breitbach   Year of birth:  1981   
City:  Lewiston  State:  ID   



 
Case History
Nez Perce 
2  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Heather Breitbach Lawless   
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-2008-0010684   Magistrate   Judge:  Court Clerk   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed pending clerk action 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  12/02/2008  I49-430 Registration-fail Register Annually
Arresting Officer:  Massey, Robert, LPD  116556  Finding: Guilty-Default
Disposition date: 12/23/2008
Fines/fees: $55.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  12/04/2008  New Case Filed-Infraction 
  12/04/2008  Prosecutor Assigned Jamie C. Shropshire 
  12/04/2008  Complaint & Summons 
  12/04/2008  Hearing Scheduled (Arraignment 12/16/2008 04:00 PM) 
  12/04/2008  Hearing result for Arraignment held on 12/16/2008 04:00 PM: Hearing Vacated 
  12/04/2008  Hearing Scheduled (Pretrial - City 12/23/2008 02:00 PM) 
  12/04/2008  A Plea is entered for charge: - NG (I49-430 Registration-fail Register Annually) 
  12/08/2008  Bond Posted - Surety (Amount 500.00 ) 
  12/23/2008  Hearing result for Pretrial - City held on 12/23/2008 02:00 PM: Failure To Appear For Hearing Or Trial 
  12/23/2008  Case Status Changed: closed pending clerk action 
  12/23/2008  Notice of Default Judgment/Noncompliance 
  12/26/2008  Bond Voided 
 
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Peterson Enterprises Inc vs. Richard R Lawless, etal.   
Case: CV-2006-0002979  Magistrate   Filed:  12/22/2006  Subtype:  Other Claims   Judge:  Kent J. Merica   Status:  Closed  03/02/2007 
  Defendants: Lawless, Heather Breitbach  Lawless, Richard R   
  Plaintiffs: Peterson Enterprises Inc   
Disposition:  Date  Judgment Type  Disposition Date  Disposition Type  Parties  In Favor Of 
  03/02/2007  Default Judgment    Lawless, Richard R (Defendant), Lawless, Heather Breitbach (Defendant),  Peterson Enterprises Inc (Plaintiff)  Unknown 
  Comment: $700.50 plus interest 
 
Register of actions:  Date   
  12/22/2006  New Case Filed-Other Claims 
  12/22/2006  Filing: B1 - Civil Complaint, More Than $300, Not $1000 No Prior Appearance Paid by: Peterson Enterprises Inc (plaintiff) Receipt number: 0288788 Dated: 12/22/2006 Amount: $68.00 (Check) 
  12/22/2006  Complaint Filed 
  12/22/2006  Summons Filed 
  12/22/2006  Plaintiff: Peterson Enterprises Inc Attorney Retained John E. Redal   
  02/27/2007  Cost Bill 
  02/27/2007  Affidavit Of Attorney Fees And Costs 
  02/27/2007  Affidavit In Support 
  02/27/2007  Motion For Default 
  02/27/2007  Affidavit Of Service 1/9/2007 Richard 
  03/01/2007  Affidavit Of Service 1/9/2007 Heather 
 
  03/02/2007  Order For Default 
  03/02/2007  Entry of Default 
  03/02/2007  Default Judgment Entered Without Hearing 
  03/02/2007  Civil Disposition entered for: Lawless, Heather, Defendant; Lawless, Richard R, Defendant; Peterson Enterprises Inc, Plaintiff. order date: 3/2/2007 
  03/02/2007  Case Status Changed: Closed 
  04/23/2007  Motion For Continuing Garnishment 
  04/23/2007  Affidavit in Support of Execution 
  04/23/2007  Affidavit of Interest Computation 
  04/24/2007  Miscellaneous Payment: Writs Of Execution Paid by: Peterson Enterprises Inc Receipt number: 0294922 Dated: 4/24/2007 Amount: $2.00 (Check) 
  04/25/2007  Order for Continuing Garnishment 
  04/30/2007  Writ Issued 
  05/03/2007  Writ Returned - Not Satisfied 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on May 01, 2009, 08:05:37 PM
Here is aa

http://news.google.com/newspapers?

id=20kMAAAAIBAJ&sjid=eGMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6351,1304385&dq=brewster+%7C+lawless+dale-johnson
Hold this for Dale Johnson info.
Quad Cty Herald Aug 13, 1978
First Assembly of God Church in Kennewick wedding took place March 4, 1978.
This is an article uniting Ann Lessig and Mike Troutman in marriage.  Parents of the bride are Mr. and Mrs. Norman Dale Johnson of Kennewick and parents of the groom are Mr and Mrs Pat Troutman of Brewster.  Article also says Lynn Lessig is twin sister of the bride and a Sue Leornard and Tina Johnson.  Also Eric Johnson, Kennewik brother of the bride in the wedding. Alot of other names I didn't recognize but this may hold a clue or may be unrelated altogether.

Could Dale Johnson be Norman Dale Johnson???


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 08:07:18 PM
is this the same richard lawless?  and who is lois j thell, could thell be thiel?

Case History
Nez Perce 
1  Cases Found. 
Wanda Payton, etal. vs. Richard Lawless, etal.   
Case: CV-1997-0001167  District   Filed:  06/30/1997  Subtype:  Personal Injury   Judge:  District Clerk   Status:  Closed  03/24/1998 
  Defendants: Doe, John  Lawless, Richard  Thell, Lois J.   
  Plaintiffs: Patyon, Jon  Payton, Wanda   
 
Register of actions:  Date   
  06/30/1997  Transfer In (from Idaho Court Or County)  
  06/30/1997  Order Granting Change Of Venue, Pay To New County 
  06/30/1997  Complaint Filed 
  06/30/1997  Notice Of Appearance 
  06/30/1997  Notice Of Service Of Discovery- Plf 
  06/30/1997  Certificate Of Readiness For Trial 
  06/30/1997  Request For Trial Setting 
  06/30/1997  Notice Of Hearing For 1-14-97 At 10:30 Am 
  06/30/1997  Response To Request For Trial Setting 
  06/30/1997  Order For Final Pretrial 11-18-97 At 10:30 Am 
  06/30/1997  Jury Trial Scheduled For 12-1-97 At 9:30 Am 
  06/30/1997  Motion To Change Of Venue 
  06/30/1997  Affidavit In Support Of Motion 
  06/30/1997  Memorandum In Support Of Mtn To Change Venue 
  06/30/1997  Notice Of Hearing 5-27-97 At 2:00 Pm 
  06/30/1997  Memorandum In Opposition To Mtn Change Venue 
  06/30/1997  Amended Notice Of Hearing 6-3-97 At 10:30 Am, 
  06/30/1997  Affidavit Of Wanda Payton In Opposition To Mt 
  06/30/1997  Order To Change Venue 
  07/01/1997  Order Assigning Judge 
  07/17/1997  Amended Complaint Filed 
  08/08/1997  Order Setting Telephonic Scheduling Conferenc 
  08/08/1997  Hearing Scheduled - Tele Scheduling (09/09/1997) Ida Rudolph Leggett 
  09/09/1997  Hearing Held - Tele Scheduling 
  09/10/1997  Notice Taking Oral Examination-def 
  09/12/1997  Scheduling Order, Notice Of Trial Setting 
  09/12/1997  And Initial Pretrial Order 
  09/12/1997  Jury Trial Scheduled - (04/13/1998) Ida Rudolph Leggett 
  09/16/1997  Answer To Amended Complaint & Demand Jury Tri 
  09/16/1997  Notice Of Service-defendant 
  09/18/1997  Notice Intent To Take Deposition Upon Oral 
  09/18/1997  Examination-plf 
  09/18/1997  Notice Intent To Take Deposition Upon Oral 
  09/18/1997  Examination-plf 
  09/18/1997  Notice Intent To Take Deposition Upon Oral 
  09/18/1997  Examination-plf 
  10/02/1997  Notice Of Service-defendant 
  12/01/1997  Notice Of Service-plaintiff 
  12/03/1997  Notice Of Service-defendant 
  01/28/1998  Notice Of Service-plaintiff 
  02/09/1998  Notice Of Service-defendant 
  02/11/1998  Notice Taking Deposition-def 
  02/17/1998  Notice Taking Video Deposition Dr. Brandford 
  02/18/1998  Offer Of Settlement 
  02/27/1998  Notice Of Service-plaintiff 
  03/05/1998  Amended Notice Taking Video Deposition-plf 
  03/19/1998  Stipulation Dismiss With Prejudice 
  03/24/1998  Hearing Vacated - Jury Trial 
  03/24/1998  Order To Dismiss With Prejudice 
  03/24/1998  Disposition Without Trial Or Hearing 
  03/24/1998  Final Judgement, Order Or Decree Entered 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on May 01, 2009, 08:09:05 PM
Here is aa

http://news.google.com/newspapers?

id=20kMAAAAIBAJ&sjid=eGMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6351,1304385&dq=brewster+%7C+lawless+dale-johnson
Hold this for Dale Johnson info.
Quad Cty Herald Aug 13, 1978
First Assembly of God Church in Kennewick wedding took place March 4, 1978.
This is an article uniting Ann Lessig and Mike Troutman in marriage.  Parents of the bride are Mr. and Mrs. Norman Dale Johnson of Kennewick and parents of the groom are Mr and Mrs Pat Troutman of Brewster.  Article also says Lynn Lessig is twin sister of the bride and a Sue Leornard and Tina Johnson.  Also Eric Johnson, Kennewik brother of the bride in the wedding. Alot of other names I didn't recognize but this may hold a clue or may be unrelated altogether.

Could Dale Johnson be Norman Dale Johnson???

Link was broken. Here it is below fixed.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=20kMAAAAIBAJ&sjid=eGMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6351,1304385&dq=brewster+%7C+lawless+dale-johnson


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 08:09:09 PM
this is the right year of birth for richard ray lawless child rapist

Name:   Lawless, Richard Ray  Year of birth:  1948     
City:  Lewiston  State:  ID   



Case History
Nez Perce 
1  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Richard Ray Lawless  
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-1997-0005906   Magistrate   Judge:  Court Clerk   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  02/16/1997  I49-654(2) Speed-exceed Maximum Speed Limit  
Arresting Officer:  Hill, George, LPD  29644  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 03/03/1997
Fines/fees: $48.00 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 08:10:52 PM
here is the JR, so hmmm. 

Name:  Lawless, Richard Ray Jr   Year of birth:  1971    
City:  Lewiston  State:  ID   
Case History
Nez Perce 
1  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Richard Ray Lawless Jr   
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-2008-0004123   Magistrate   Judge:  Court Clerk   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed pending clerk action 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  05/27/2008  I49-1232 Insurance-fail To Provide Proof Of Insurance  
Arresting Officer:  Gobbi, David A, LPD  112739  Finding: Dismissed By Court
Disposition date: 06/04/2008
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
  05/27/2008  I49-673 Safety Restraint-fail To Use  
Arresting Officer:  Gobbi, David A, LPD  112739  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 06/04/2008
Fines/fees: $10.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  05/28/2008  New Case Filed-Infraction 
  05/28/2008  Prosecutor Assigned Jamie C. Shropshire 
  05/28/2008  Criminal Complaint 
  05/28/2008  Hearing Scheduled (Arraignment 06/11/2008 04:00 PM) 
  06/04/2008  Dismissal During/after Trial Or Hearing (I49-1232 Insurance-fail To Provide Proof Of Insurance) 
  06/04/2008  Dismissed Before Trial Or Hearing 
  06/04/2008  Guilty Plea Or Admission Of Guilt (I49-673 Safety Restraint-fail To Use) 
  06/04/2008  Change Plea To Guilty Before H/t 
  06/04/2008  Case Status Changed: closed pending clerk action 
  06/04/2008  Hearing result for Arraignment held on 06/11/2008 04:00 PM: Hearing Vacated 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 08:13:09 PM

so amanda marie is married to richard ray lawless JRhe probably is the son of the child rapist.

Nez Perce 
1  Cases Found. 
Amanda Marie Lawless vs. Richard Ray Lawless Jr   
Case: CV-2005-0001960  Magistrate   Filed:  09/06/2005  Subtype:  Domestic Relations   Judge:  Michael Griffin   Status:  Closed  11/03/2005 
  Defendants: Lawless, Richard Ray Jr   
  Plaintiffs: Lawless, Amanda Marie   
Disposition:  Date  Judgment Type  Disposition Date  Disposition Type  Parties  In Favor Of 
  11/03/2005  Divorce    Lawless, Richard Ray Jr (Defendant), Lawless, Amanda Marie (Plaintiff)  Unknown 
 
Register of actions:  Date   
  09/06/2005  New Case Filed-Domestic Relations 
  09/06/2005  Filing: F1 - Divorce/Legal Separation Paid by: Jones, Brower & Callery Receipt number: 0264604 Dated: 09/06/2005 Amount: $123.00 (Check) 
  09/06/2005  Plaintiff: Lawless, Amanda Marie Attorney Retained Robert L Brower 
  09/08/2005  Acceptance Of Service - 9/8/2005 
  10/13/2005  Completion - Focus on Children - Plaintiff 
  10/13/2005  Completion - Focus on Children - Defendant 
  11/02/2005  Affidavit For Default 
  11/02/2005  Child Support Order Transmittal Form 
  11/02/2005  Child Support Work Sheet 
  11/02/2005  Affidavit Verifying Income 
  11/02/2005  Affidavit For Default 
  11/02/2005  Affidavit Of Non-military Service 
  11/02/2005  Hearing Scheduled (Default Divorce 11/03/2005 01:00 PM) 
  11/03/2005  Hearing result for Default Divorce held on 11/03/2005 01:00 PM: Hearing Held 
  11/03/2005  Order For Default 
  11/03/2005  Decree of divorce 
  11/03/2005  Disposition With Hearing 
  11/03/2005  Final Judgement, Order Or Decree Entered 
  11/03/2005  Case Status Changed: Closed 
  11/03/2005  Civil Disposition entered for: Lawless, Richard Ray Jr, Defendant; Lawless, Amanda Marie, Plaintiff. order date: 11/3/2005   
  10/09/2008  Miscellaneous Payment: For Making Copy Of Any File Or Record By The Clerk, Per Page Paid by: Lawless, Amanda Marie Receipt number: 0322810 Dated: 10/9/2008 Amount: $11.00 (Check) 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 08:21:38 PM
Name:   Lawless, Curtis Roderick  Year of birth:  1943   
City:  Redford Twp  State: MI  
____________________________________
 Name:   Lawless, Duane T  Year of birth:  1953   
City:  Portland  State:  OR
he has the ministries
________________________________
 
Case History
Ada 
1  Cases Found. 
In The Matter Of The Estate Of Ann Hosier Lawless Deceased 
Case: CV-IE-1996-59864
Old Case: SP-IE-96-00087*M  Magistrate   Filed:  02/16/1996  Subtype:  Informal Estate   Judge:  Patricia Flanagan   Status:  Closed  04/11/2006 
  Subjects: Lawless, Ann Hosier   
  Other Parties: Lawless, Elizabeth M  Lawless, Margaret C
   
Register of actions:  Date   
  02/16/1996  New Case Filed 
  02/16/1996  Probate Matters, Asking For Appointment Of Personal Representative 
  02/16/1996  Last Will And Testament 
  02/16/1996  (2) Acceptance Of Appointment 
  02/16/1996  Statement Of Informal Probate & Appt Of P R 
  02/16/1996  Letters Testamentary 
 ___________________________

Name:   Lawless, Robert Lynn  Year of birth:  1968   
City:  Boise  State:  ID   

_____________________________
Defendants: Lawless, Robert Lynn    
  Plaintiffs: Chamberlain, Samantha M    
Disposition:  Date  Judgment Type  Disposition Date  Disposition Type  Parties  In Favor Of 
  11/20/2008  Dismissal W/out Prej    Lawless, Robert Lynn (Defendant), Chamberlain, Samantha M (Plaintiff) 
______________________

I think this person is listed somwhere with amanda
Name:   Lawless, Samantha M  Year of birth:  1966   
City:  Boise  State:  ID   
_______________________________





 





Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 08:22:25 PM
Bingham 
1  Cases Found. 
Beneficial Mortgage Company Of Idaho vs. Richard R. Lawless, etal. 
Case: CV-2007-0000517  District   Filed:  02/28/2007  Subtype:  Other Claims   Judge:  Darren B. Simpson   Status:  Closed  10/26/2007 
  Defendants: Jeanblanc, Amanda M.  Lawless, Richard R.    
  Plaintiffs: Beneficial Mortgage Company Of Idaho   
Disposition:  Date  Judgment Type  Disposition Date  Disposition Type  Parties  In Favor Of 
  04/09/2007  Money Jdgmt Default    Lawless, Richard R. (Defendant), Beneficial Mortgage Company Of Idaho (Plaintiff)  Unknown 
  Comment: $16709.82 
  10/26/2007  Dismissal W/out Prej  10/26/2007  Dismissal W/out Prej  Jeanblanc, Amanda M. (Defendant), Beneficial Mortgage Company Of Idaho (Plaintiff)  Unknown 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 08:45:15 PM
we have her somewhere
Name:   Lawless, Lisa  Year of birth:  1961   
City:  Driggs  State:  ID 
_______________________

 same town as lisa above
Name:   Lawless, John Frances  Year of birth:  1964   
City:  Driggs  State:  ID   

divorce
Defendants: Lawless, John Francis Jr    
  Plaintiffs: Lawless, Lisa Kay   

_____________________________

ase History
Kootenai 
2  Cases Found. 
Mark Young vs. Robert Lawless, etal. 
Case: CV-2004-0005891  Magistrate   Filed:  08/12/2004  Subtype:  Other Claims   Judge:  Benjamin R. Simpson   Status:  Closed  08/23/2004 
  Defendants: Lawless, Robert  Lawless, Samantha   
  Plaintiffs: Young, Mark 
_____________________________

Name:   Lawless, Robert Lynn  Year of birth:  1968   
City:  Hayden  State:  ID   
_______________________
Name:   Lawless, Lori  Year of birth:     
City:  Fairbanks  State:  AK   

Latah 
1  Cases Found. 
Dana L Gutshall, etal. vs. Ira Monroe Lawless, etal. 
Case: CV-2005-0000882  Magistrate   Filed:  09/29/2005  Subtype:  Small Claims   Judge:  William C. Hamlett   Status:  Closed  01/05/2006 
  Defendants: Lawless, Ira Monroe  Lawless, Lori    
  Plaintiffs: Gutshall, Dana L  Gutshall, Patricia Lurae   

Name:   Lawless, Ira Monroe  Year of birth:  1972   
City:  Lewiston  State:  ID   


__________________________________

Name:   Lawless, Amanda M  Year of birth:  1978   
City:  Clarkston  State:  WA   
______________________________
 
Name:   Lawless, Heather Breitbach  Year of birth:  1981   
City:  Lewiston  State:  ID   
________________________

Name:   Lawless, Richard Ray  Year of birth:  1948   
City:  Lewiston  State:  ID   
____________________________________
Name:   Lawless, Richard Ray Jr  Year of birth:  1971   
City:  Lewiston  State:  ID 
 
___________________________________

Nez Perce 
1  Cases Found. 
Peterson Enterprises Inc vs. Richard R Lawless, etal. 
Case: CV-2006-0002979  Magistrate   Filed:  12/22/2006  Subtype:  Other Claims   Judge:  Kent J. Merica   Status:  Closed  03/02/2007 
  Defendants: Lawless, Heather Breitbach  Lawless, Richard R   
  Plaintiffs: Peterson Enterprises Inc   
___________________________--
divorceCase History
Teton 
1  Cases Found. 
Lisa Kay Lawless vs. John Francis Lawless Jr 
Case: CV-1997-0000150  Magistrate   Filed:  09/29/1997  Subtype:  Domestic Relations   Judge:  Colin W. Luke   Status:  Closed  10/02/1997 
  Defendants: Lawless, John Francis Jr   
  Plaintiffs: Lawless, Lisa Kay   
 
_______________________

Name:   Lawless, James And Linda   Year of birth:     
City:  Mccall  State:  ID   
____________________

Defendants: Lawless, James  Lawless, Lynne A.   
  Plaintiffs: Collection Bureau,, Inc.   
___________________________

 
Name:   Lawless, Lynne A.  Year of birth:  1949     
City:  Mccall  State:  ID 
___________________________

 
 



 







Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 08:46:11 PM
is this the same richard lawless?  and who is lois j thell, could thell be thiel?

Case History
Nez Perce 
1  Cases Found. 
Wanda Payton, etal. vs. Richard Lawless, etal.   
Case: CV-1997-0001167  District   Filed:  06/30/1997  Subtype:  Personal Injury   Judge:  District Clerk   Status:  Closed  03/24/1998 
  Defendants: Doe, John  Lawless, Richard  Thell, Lois J.   
  Plaintiffs: Patyon, Jon  Payton, Wanda   
 
Register of actions:  Date   
  06/30/1997  Transfer In (from Idaho Court Or County)  
  06/30/1997  Order Granting Change Of Venue, Pay To New County 
  06/30/1997  Complaint Filed 
  06/30/1997  Notice Of Appearance 
  06/30/1997  Notice Of Service Of Discovery- Plf 
  06/30/1997  Certificate Of Readiness For Trial 
  06/30/1997  Request For Trial Setting 
  06/30/1997  Notice Of Hearing For 1-14-97 At 10:30 Am 
  06/30/1997  Response To Request For Trial Setting 
  06/30/1997  Order For Final Pretrial 11-18-97 At 10:30 Am 
  06/30/1997  Jury Trial Scheduled For 12-1-97 At 9:30 Am 
  06/30/1997  Motion To Change Of Venue 
  06/30/1997  Affidavit In Support Of Motion 
  06/30/1997  Memorandum In Support Of Mtn To Change Venue 
  06/30/1997  Notice Of Hearing 5-27-97 At 2:00 Pm 
  06/30/1997  Memorandum In Opposition To Mtn Change Venue 
  06/30/1997  Amended Notice Of Hearing 6-3-97 At 10:30 Am, 
  06/30/1997  Affidavit Of Wanda Payton In Opposition To Mt 
  06/30/1997  Order To Change Venue 
  07/01/1997  Order Assigning Judge 
  07/17/1997  Amended Complaint Filed 
  08/08/1997  Order Setting Telephonic Scheduling Conferenc 
  08/08/1997  Hearing Scheduled - Tele Scheduling (09/09/1997) Ida Rudolph Leggett 
  09/09/1997  Hearing Held - Tele Scheduling 
  09/10/1997  Notice Taking Oral Examination-def 
  09/12/1997  Scheduling Order, Notice Of Trial Setting 
  09/12/1997  And Initial Pretrial Order 
  09/12/1997  Jury Trial Scheduled - (04/13/1998) Ida Rudolph Leggett 
  09/16/1997  Answer To Amended Complaint & Demand Jury Tri 
  09/16/1997  Notice Of Service-defendant 
  09/18/1997  Notice Intent To Take Deposition Upon Oral 
  09/18/1997  Examination-plf 
  09/18/1997  Notice Intent To Take Deposition Upon Oral 
  09/18/1997  Examination-plf 
  09/18/1997  Notice Intent To Take Deposition Upon Oral 
  09/18/1997  Examination-plf 
  10/02/1997  Notice Of Service-defendant 
  12/01/1997  Notice Of Service-plaintiff 
  12/03/1997  Notice Of Service-defendant 
  01/28/1998  Notice Of Service-plaintiff 
  02/09/1998  Notice Of Service-defendant 
  02/11/1998  Notice Taking Deposition-def 
  02/17/1998  Notice Taking Video Deposition Dr. Brandford 
  02/18/1998  Offer Of Settlement 
  02/27/1998  Notice Of Service-plaintiff 
  03/05/1998  Amended Notice Taking Video Deposition-plf 
  03/19/1998  Stipulation Dismiss With Prejudice 
  03/24/1998  Hearing Vacated - Jury Trial 
  03/24/1998  Order To Dismiss With Prejudice 
  03/24/1998  Disposition Without Trial Or Hearing 
  03/24/1998  Final Judgement, Order Or Decree Entered 
 


One of Carleen Lawless' girls ( I believe it to be Sarah but have no proof yet) marries a THEAL.  This could be a connection.  The other daughters name is Terry .


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 08:49:21 PM
Here is aa

http://news.google.com/newspapers?

id=20kMAAAAIBAJ&sjid=eGMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6351,1304385&dq=brewster+%7C+lawless+dale-johnson
Hold this for Dale Johnson info.
Quad Cty Herald Aug 13, 1978
First Assembly of God Church in Kennewick wedding took place March 4, 1978.
This is an article uniting Ann Lessig and Mike Troutman in marriage.  Parents of the bride are Mr. and Mrs. Norman Dale Johnson of Kennewick and parents of the groom are Mr and Mrs Pat Troutman of Brewster.  Article also says Lynn Lessig is twin sister of the bride and a Sue Leornard and Tina Johnson.  Also Eric Johnson, Kennewik brother of the bride in the wedding. Alot of other names I didn't recognize but this may hold a clue or may be unrelated altogether.

Could Dale Johnson be Norman Dale Johnson???

If you are thinking of the Johnson that married Bette Jane Grimes, it is not the same one.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on May 01, 2009, 08:54:04 PM
Here is aa

http://news.google.com/newspapers?

id=20kMAAAAIBAJ&sjid=eGMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6351,1304385&dq=brewster+%7C+lawless+dale-johnson
Hold this for Dale Johnson info.
Quad Cty Herald Aug 13, 1978
First Assembly of God Church in Kennewick wedding took place March 4, 1978.
This is an article uniting Ann Lessig and Mike Troutman in marriage.  Parents of the bride are Mr. and Mrs. Norman Dale Johnson of Kennewick and parents of the groom are Mr and Mrs Pat Troutman of Brewster.  Article also says Lynn Lessig is twin sister of the bride and a Sue Leornard and Tina Johnson.  Also Eric Johnson, Kennewik brother of the bride in the wedding. Alot of other names I didn't recognize but this may hold a clue or may be unrelated altogether.

Could Dale Johnson be Norman Dale Johnson???

OMG there is so much data on here I am on 20 minutes and digesting at 50%. I KNEW his name would not be Dale, nobody could find anything. Good work.

Back to reading, B


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 08:57:00 PM
King County Washington


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on May 01, 2009, 09:03:09 PM
Do we have a count as to how many child rapies/molesters are in this family? This research is for 2 family lines and trying to connect them, so how many in each line are we talking about?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 09:04:11 PM
Here is aa

http://news.google.com/newspapers?

id=20kMAAAAIBAJ&sjid=eGMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6351,1304385&dq=brewster+%7C+lawless+dale-johnson
Hold this for Dale Johnson info.
Quad Cty Herald Aug 13, 1978
First Assembly of God Church in Kennewick wedding took place March 4, 1978.
This is an article uniting Ann Lessig and Mike Troutman in marriage.  Parents of the bride are Mr. and Mrs. Norman Dale Johnson of Kennewick and parents of the groom are Mr and Mrs Pat Troutman of Brewster.  Article also says Lynn Lessig is twin sister of the bride and a Sue Leornard and Tina Johnson.  Also Eric Johnson, Kennewik brother of the bride in the wedding. Alot of other names I didn't recognize but this may hold a clue or may be unrelated altogether.

Could Dale Johnson be Norman Dale Johnson???

oh this is good info !!! lots of stuff here, I will see if this might be dale johnson ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 09:05:29 PM
Daily News of Los Angeles April 3, 1987

Gary Lawless has been chosen the "Most Improved Student" in the ninth- grade class at Luther Burbank Junior High School this year. ...

This would be the right age group for our Gary Jr.  Does anyone have access to the full article?

http://docs.newsbank.com/g/GooglePM/LA/lib00086,0EF5139CC249A444.html


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 01, 2009, 09:06:32 PM
Do we have a count as to how many child rapies/molesters are in this family? This research is for 2 family lines and trying to connect them, so how many in each line are we talking about?


One is too many, this makes my stomach turn!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on May 01, 2009, 09:11:37 PM
Do we have a count as to how many child rapies/molesters are in this family? This research is for 2 family lines and trying to connect them, so how many in each line are we talking about?


One is too many, this makes my stomach turn!

I am just in shock! It seems like there are more then what would be in the average family, or I hope anyway.   


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on May 01, 2009, 09:16:00 PM
Do we have a count as to how many child rapies/molesters are in this family? This research is for 2 family lines and trying to connect them, so how many in each line are we talking about?


That should be our next order of business, mapping out the SO's in this family line and how they are connected. I only got a hard fought 3.0 in statistics and probability, so I am no expert, but does anyone else think this is the highest concentration of SO's in a family, ever? Any volunteers to start that list?
B


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 09:20:40 PM
Do we have a count as to how many child rapies/molesters are in this family? This research is for 2 family lines and trying to connect them, so how many in each line are we talking about?


it is very hard to say how many of these child molester/rapists are part of this family.  we just keep finding more and more sex offenders, but we have to research each one to figure out which family they connect to. ugh.  what makes it so hard, I think the criminals/molesters etc in the family try to move away or change their name or go on the run, and you can't find them to figure out what family they are in. 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 09:25:03 PM
does anyone have these johnsons with lawless?

LYNNWOOD, WA
CLINTON, MN
MCALLEN, TX
ORTONVILLE, MN

Possible Relatives:

JOHNSON, BERNICE L (Age 79)
JOHNSON, ERNEST W (Age 103)
JOHNSON, NANCY M (Age 43)
JOHNSON, HOWARD A (Age 69)
JOHNSON, CLAYTON W (Age 71)
JOHNSON, CLIFFORD D (Age 63)
JOHNSON, CAROL J (Age 62)
JOHNSON, WILLIAM


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Blink34 on May 01, 2009, 09:30:04 PM
http://sacramento.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel09/sc042009.htm

April 20, 2009 United States Attorney's Office
Eastern District of California
Contact: (916) 554-2700 
Life Sentences in Sexual Abuse Case

SACRAMENTO, CA—Acting United States Attorney Lawrence G. Brown announced today that United States District Judge William B. Shubb sentenced ALLEN HARROD, 61, of Sacramento, and MICHAEL LaBRECQUE, 50, of Fort Worth, Texas, today to life in prison. A federal jury returned a guilty verdict in February 2008 of six counts of the interstate travel of four minors for the purpose of engaging in unlawful sexual conduct, and one count each for the transfer of HARROD’s seven-year-old son to LaBRECQUE for the purpose of producing sexually explicit images of the boy.

Judge Shubb imposed the statutory maximum sentence of 15 years for each of the six travel counts, and ordered that they be run consecutively for a total of 1080 months (90 years). The life sentence imposed by the Judge for HARROD’s transfer, and LaBRECQUE’s assumption of custody of the Harrod boy for purposes of producing child pornography, was ordered to run concurrently with the 1080 months imposed in the other six counts.

This case was the product of an extensive investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigations, the Sacramento County District Attorney’s Office, and the Folsom Police Department, which originated the case.

According to Assistant United States Attorney Laurel D. White, who prosecuted the case, in sentencing the defendants, Judge Shubb noted that the case represented one of the most serious cases he had adjudicated during this tenure as a Federal District Court Judge. For more than a decade, HARROD and LaBRECQUE and their wives, engaged in ritualistic sex acts with children from the two families as part of a religion started by HARROD and followed by LaBRECQUEs and his wife. HARROD’s self-proclaimed religion—a loosely-defined amalgam of doctrine derived from the Book of Mormon and the Bible—promoted the sexual abuse of children as a means of promoting each child’s sexual maturation from childhood to adulthood. Children of both HARROD and the LaBRECQUEs testified at trial about the sexual abuse inflicted by each defendant. A fourth defendant, HARROD’s common-law wife IRENE HUNT, had previously pleaded guilty in federal court pursuant to a plea agreement wherein she agreed to cooperate with the government and testify against the others. HUNT provided an insider’s view of the two men’s plan to transport LaBRECQUE’s daughters from Texas to Sacramento for the purpose of engaging in sex acts with HARROD.

The testimony and evidence introduced at trial also revealed that LaBRECQUE engaged in ongoing sexual activity with his daughters prior to each girl’s travel to Sacramento in order to prepare them for the sex acts each would engage in with HARROD. Evidence revealed that LaBRECQUE would begin to sexually train his daughters when they were about seven or eight years old. Evidence offered at trial, however, revealed one daughter was as young as four years old when the sex began.

The evidence also revealed that HARROD transferred custody of his then seven-year old son to the LaBRECQUE so that sexually explicit images could be taken of the boy. In July 1991, the boy traveled to Fort Worth, Texas with his mother, IRENE HUNT, and lived in the LaBRECQUE household where he was home-schooled and photographed engaged in sexually explicit conduct with LaBRECQUE’s wife, JULIETTE LaBRECQUE. The evidence also revealed that another purpose of transporting HARROD’s son to Texas was to train him in sexual activity for the purpose of some day assuming HARROD’s role as the patriarch of the two families. The jury was unable to reach a verdict on the two counts involving JULIETTE LaBRECQUE, and charges against her were dismissed.   

 
If anyone feels this should also be on the general thread, please feel free to put there, I just posted it here as we seem to be seeing all the SO activity, and here is an egregious example. AND......... This investigation started in Folsom.
B


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on May 01, 2009, 09:44:38 PM
The mom's should have received 90+ years as well. What kind of mother allows those things to happen to her children? Horrible story, just horrible.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 10:26:25 PM
polk, seattle city directory 1943-1944

hardware co - james w lawless  3047 15th ave W
carole v lawless f&n r326 N 103rd
Edwin W (betty M) printer west seattle herald h408 bellevue av N apt2
fred (vivian) mach OB&MW r 19226 18th av NE
James G (roseanna A) h922 14th av
James W (May) (interbay hardware co) h1910 10th av W
Robert B h1321 E Union apt 109

lawliss with an i
charles A (Blythe) r 738 N 81st






Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 10:41:55 PM
didn't we have a lawless / kopp marriage names ?

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Christopher Ralph Lawless
Name: Christopher Ralph Lawless
Birth Date: 3 Jan 1948
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Kopp 
Birth County: Santa Clara 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 10:43:58 PM
mother is a turner

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Steven E Lawless
Name: Steven E Lawless
Birth Date: 25 Apr 1958
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Turner 
Birth County: Alameda 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 10:45:57 PM
mother is a conklin

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Gary D Lawless
Name: Gary D Lawless  
Birth Date: 23 Mar 1958
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Conklin 
Birth County: San Diego 

this is not the gary d lawless brother of timothy lawless unless the father had another son with another woman?
timothy's mother and his brother's mother is the same and is marylin tieken
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 01, 2009, 10:47:07 PM
another one with turner mother
California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Donald S Lawless
Name: Donald S Lawless
Birth Date: 31 May 1960
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Turner 
Birth County: Alameda 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on May 01, 2009, 10:59:38 PM
http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2006/03/06/deserter-i2259.jpg (http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2006/03/06/deserter-i2259.jpg)


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on May 01, 2009, 11:06:54 PM
http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2006/03/06/deserter-i2259.jpg (http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2006/03/06/deserter-i2259.jpg)

The link above is a picture of the person in article below.  I didn't know how to post the photo so I provided link.  He looks like one of the family. Check it out. 

Left: U.S. Marine Corps; Right: Ft. Worth Star-Telegram via AP
The photo on the left shows Ernest Johnson Jr. as he looked in 1969. On the right is the same man, now going by the name Ernest "Buck" McQueen.  Another long-term Marine deserter, Ernest "Buck" McQueen, was arrested in Fort Worth in January. McQueen was Ernest Johnson Jr. when he left Camp Lejeune, N.C., in November 1969 because of concerns about going to Vietnam. McQueen, 55, also was discharged without disciplinary action. McQueen says he didn't take a new name to hide. His Social Security card says "McQueen." He says he was born Ernest Johnson Jr., but when his biological father left, his mother raised her son by her married name, McQueen. When he joined the Marines, he says, they
insisted he go by Ernest Johnson Jr.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-03-07-deserter-side_x.htm



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on May 01, 2009, 11:07:23 PM
http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2006/03/06/deserter-i2259.jpg (http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2006/03/06/deserter-i2259.jpg)

my gosh they all have the same face. who are these men?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on May 01, 2009, 11:09:58 PM
http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2006/03/06/deserter-i2259.jpg (http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2006/03/06/deserter-i2259.jpg)

my gosh they all have the same face. who are these men?
Sorry I posted too soon! Wow they look like the lawless clan. They have that same oval face, same hair line, forehead. Are they connected to one of the lawless families?


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on May 01, 2009, 11:18:25 PM
didn't we have a lawless / kopp marriage names ?

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Christopher Ralph Lawless
Name: Christopher Ralph Lawless
Birth Date: 3 Jan 1948
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Kopp 
Birth County: Santa Clara 
 


Violet Hazel Lawless
2nd marriage - Charles P. Kopp


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on May 01, 2009, 11:19:52 PM
http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2006/03/06/deserter-i2259.jpg (http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2006/03/06/deserter-i2259.jpg)

my gosh they all have the same face. who are these men?
Sorry I posted too soon! Wow they look like the lawless clan. They have that same oval face, same hair line, forehead. Are they connected to one of the lawless families?

He is an Ernest Johnson Jr.  Don't know for sure if he is any relation but he sure looks like them.  Glad to see other monkeys agree!!!!


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: 4getUnot on May 02, 2009, 12:02:54 AM
didn't we have a lawless / kopp marriage names ?

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Christopher Ralph Lawless
Name: Christopher Ralph Lawless
Birth Date: 3 Jan 1948
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Kopp 
Birth County: Santa Clara 
 


I searched back on this thread.  All I find is a Violet H Lawless 2nd marriage to Charles  Kopp



Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 02, 2009, 08:49:36 AM
didn't we have a lawless / kopp marriage names ?

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Christopher Ralph Lawless
Name: Christopher Ralph Lawless
Birth Date: 3 Jan 1948
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Kopp 
Birth County: Santa Clara 
 

Yes we do:

McNealy (Mack) A. Lawless and Sarah Ann Nicholas

Child 6
Violet Hazel Lawless
B. 6 Sep 1886 Indiana
D 15 Dec 1966, Haines City , Polk Florida

Husband 1 Cam Lawson Married 6 Jul 1904 Miami , Indiana

Husband 2 Charles P Kopp Married 3 Jun 1907 Miami, Indiana

Husband 3 Iler  E Cloud ,married 31 Oct 1908, Miami, Indiana

Husband 4 Lee King Married 29 Jun 1912 Miami, Indiana

Husband 5 Robert M Harmon b abt 1883  Married  10 Nov 1919 Miami, Indiana

Husband 6 Mr Dye.




Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 02, 2009, 09:10:15 AM
Has anyone pulled this birth announcement to see if it names other family?  It is one you need to purchase which is why I ask.

Mar 6, 2002
LAWLESS, Timothy and Chona, a boy.

http://docs.newsbank.com/g/GooglePM/SB/lib00166,0F21D759204FB17A.html


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 02, 2009, 09:42:02 AM
Has anyone pulled this birth announcement to see if it names other family?  It is one you need to purchase which is why I ask.

Mar 6, 2002
LAWLESS, Timothy and Chona, a boy.

http://docs.newsbank.com/g/GooglePM/SB/lib00166,0F21D759204FB17A.html

good morning, let me see if I can find that


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 02, 2009, 09:51:18 AM
just ran into this one

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Shelly A Lawless
Name: Shelly A Lawless
Birth Date: 10 Nov 1967
Gender: Female 
Mother's Maiden Name: Crall   
Birth County: Ventura 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 02, 2009, 09:52:17 AM
we have mattos somewhere

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Jeffrey A Lawless
Name: Jeffrey A Lawless
Birth Date: 22 Aug 1969
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Mattos   
Birth County: San Bernardino 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 02, 2009, 09:53:44 AM
another mattos

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Jason M Lawless
Name: Jason M Lawless
Birth Date: 9 Sep 1975
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Mattos   
Birth County: San Bernardino 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 02, 2009, 09:55:21 AM
i'm sure we all know this but don't know if we have the doc
California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Melissa Chantel Lawless
Name: Melissa Chantel Lawless  
Birth Date: 23 Feb 1981
Gender: Female 
Mother's Maiden Name: Purks 
Birth County: Orange 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 02, 2009, 09:56:29 AM
here's adam

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Adam Brian Lawless
Name: Adam Brian Lawless  
Birth Date: 16 Sep 1985
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Purks 
Birth County: Orange 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 02, 2009, 09:57:18 AM
celeb's


California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Caleb Joshua Lawless
Name: Caleb Joshua Lawless  
Birth Date: 3 Aug 1987
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Purks 
Birth County: Orange 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 02, 2009, 10:04:39 AM
can we pull this?

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=cabirth1905&so=2&cj=1&pcc=2&hc=50&gs1co=2%2cUSA&gsfn=marylin&prox=1&gsln=ticken&gspl=7%2cCalifornia&rank=0&sx=y&gss=angs-c&o_xid=0002790452&o_lid=0002790452


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 02, 2009, 10:10:49 AM
not sure who these area but here they are for later reference

Sheena Lawanna Bearden 4 Sep 1950  Female  Neasbitt  Kern   
Lois L Branscum  13 Apr 1964 Female  Neasbitt  Tulare 
 Mary J Branscum 19 Feb 1965  Female  Neasbitt  Tulare   
Craig S Harless 27 Jul 1977  Male  Neasbitt  Solano   
Christopher Lee Harless 4 Apr 1979  Male  Neasbitt  Solano   
Carrie Ann Harless 5 Jan 1982  Female  Neasbitt  Solano   
Michael Cheyne Hayes 25 May 1982  Male  Neasbitt  Kern   
Ashley Faith Jacobs 13 Sep 1990  Female  Neasbitt  Sacramento   
Jeanette M McMahon 7 Jan 1970  Female  Neasbitt  Orange   
Jeremy M McMahon 10 Jun 1975  Male  Neasbitt  Orange   
Susan Michellelynn McMaster 23 Jan 1983  Female  Neasbitt  Kern   
Jessica Rose McMaster 4 Dec 1986  Female  Neasbitt  Kern   
Trina Lee Neasbitt 31 Jul 1981  Female  Neasbitt  Nevada   
Richard Bergen Standiford 7 Apr 1982  Male  Neasbitt  Solano 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 02, 2009, 10:16:28 AM
can we pull this?

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=cabirth1905&so=2&cj=1&pcc=2&hc=50&gs1co=2%2cUSA&gsfn=marylin&prox=1&gsln=ticken&gspl=7%2cCalifornia&rank=0&sx=y&gss=angs-c&o_xid=0002790452&o_lid=0002790452

that's on the board somewhere -  but where ?  ::MonkeyConfused::
finding stuff in all this mess
this is the mother of timothy, gary duane and jeffery carl
she married gary d lawless and manuel gomes

here it is again
California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Marylin Elizabeth Tieken
Name: Marylin Elizabeth Tieken
Birth Date: 20 Mar 1937
Gender: Female 
Mother's Maiden Name: Forman 
Birth County: Napa 
 


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 02, 2009, 10:17:33 AM
Has anyone pulled this birth announcement to see if it names other family?  It is one you need to purchase which is why I ask.

Mar 6, 2002
LAWLESS, Timothy and Chona, a boy.

http://docs.newsbank.com/g/GooglePM/SB/lib00166,0F21D759204FB17A.html

This would not be on Ancestry.  It is an old article from the Sacremento Bee newspaper and is pay -per-view for the full announcement.


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 02, 2009, 10:19:43 AM
can we pull this?

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=cabirth1905&so=2&cj=1&pcc=2&hc=50&gs1co=2%2cUSA&gsfn=marylin&prox=1&gsln=ticken&gspl=7%2cCalifornia&rank=0&sx=y&gss=angs-c&o_xid=0002790452&o_lid=0002790452

that's on the board somewhere -  but where ?  ::MonkeyConfused::
finding stuff in all this mess
this is the mother of timothy, gary duane and jeffery carl
she married gary d lawless and manuel gomes

here it is again
California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Marylin Elizabeth Tieken
Name: Marylin Elizabeth Tieken
Birth Date: 20 Mar 1937
Gender: Female 
Mother's Maiden Name: Forman 
Birth County: Napa 
 


That was really early on before I started my lists.  Just wanted to to add the correct info as I am getting over loaded with lawless names as well  LOL


Title: Re: The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection
Post by: Northern Rose on May 02, 2009, 10:21:56 AM
We had picture of one of the brothers from myspace or facebook.  Not sure if that was the pimp daddy hat or the other one.  Which one was the correct brother as I would like to do a side by side with this image.  I think I am really close.



Title: Re: The