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Title: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15 5/20/09 - 6/03/09
Post by: MuffyBee on May 07, 2009, 11:03:57 PM
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Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mymonkey on May 20, 2009, 02:42:01 PM
Woo Hoo ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: MuffyBee on May 20, 2009, 02:42:52 PM
 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 02:43:39 PM
(I am reposting here.)
Good afternoon Monkey friends  ::MonkeyAngel::

Today is a good day for Haleigh to be found!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 20, 2009, 02:44:05 PM
Yay,  new cage, now come on Monkeys, lets get it dirty, Please let Haleigh be found before this one is over!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 02:44:55 PM
THANK YOU   MUFFY BEE   FOR POSTING  BRANDI'S PIC AS AN OPENING

I peddled as fast as I could go...Whew..finally made it!!!

(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j84/funkymonk16/Monkeyonbicycle.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 02:45:10 PM
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
I job well done MuffyBee!!! doesn't look like you needed practice, you did it like a pro!!!
 ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 02:45:17 PM
It's new, its clean..  Grama did you make it over.. ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 20, 2009, 02:45:21 PM
They were just talking about the Vigil on HLN  a while ago, and of course you know they had to mention the Anthony's being there...........just once I wish they would show up for something and nobody would say a word about them, act like they didnt even exist..........Maybe then they would get the message!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 02:47:41 PM
Something has been dangling in my mind.  I know that there has been talk of a possible..doorbell.

Is / was it actually a ..doorbell someone heard the night Haleigh went missing????

Or..is it possible it was a ...cellphone...with a distinctive ring....like a doorbell.  I have listened to some cellphone rings, and some are actually quite real sounding, like a baby crying.

Just another thought to ponder....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 20, 2009, 02:48:27 PM
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
Thank you Muffy!

 ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 02:49:29 PM
It's new, its clean..  Grama did you make it over.. ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyDance::

For sure, and I left most of my funny pics behind... ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mymonkey on May 20, 2009, 02:52:02 PM
Something has been dangling in my mind.  I know that there has been talk of a possible..doorbell.

Is / was it actually a ..doorbell someone heard the night Haleigh went missing????

Or..is it possible it was a ...cellphone...with a distinctive ring....like a doorbell.  I have listened to some cellphone rings, and some are actually quite real sounding, like a baby crying.

Just another thought to ponder....
Grama,
I have often thought it was a cell phone, mine has a ring tone just like a doorbell..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mizjay on May 20, 2009, 02:56:02 PM
ISLANDMONKEY   :smt060    Just want to echo Muffy's prayers  and thoughts for the baby and all of you.  Hugs from me


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 20, 2009, 03:02:17 PM
Something has been dangling in my mind.  I know that there has been talk of a possible..doorbell.

Is / was it actually a ..doorbell someone heard the night Haleigh went missing????

Or..is it possible it was a ...cellphone...with a distinctive ring....like a doorbell.  I have listened to some cellphone rings, and some are actually quite real sounding, like a baby crying.

Just another thought to ponder....

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Grama I was looking for info about that last night. I was looking at some old videos and came across one that was talking about the doorbell. I asked over yonder and thay said it was in the background of a video or something, and it was the person who posted the video sound or something, I'm still  ::MonkeyConfused::  about the darn doorbell.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 20, 2009, 03:04:02 PM
Me too, a doorbell or a cell phone ring tone?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 20, 2009, 03:05:00 PM
They were just talking about the Vigil on HLN  a while ago, and of course you know they had to mention the Anthony's being there...........just once I wish they would show up for something and nobody would say a word about them, act like they didnt even exist..........Maybe then they would get the message!

I know HH, I wish they'd just go away, but it doesn't look like it's gonna happen anytime soon. I wish the media wouldn't be all over them every time they did anything.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 20, 2009, 03:06:04 PM
Me too, a doorbell or a cell phone ring tone?

The video said, that LE came to a man named Marty Hubbard and told him they were looking for a doorbell that sounded like a grandfather clock.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 20, 2009, 03:11:22 PM
Hey Island, are you here?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 20, 2009, 03:13:10 PM
Me too, a doorbell or a cell phone ring tone?

The video said, that LE came to a man named Marty Hubbard and told him they were looking for a doorbell that sounded like a grandfather clock.
Thanks, I remember this from a while back, I have heard many different door bells before, but none that have sounded like that. But I'm sure there are.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 20, 2009, 03:14:45 PM
Hey Island, are you here?
Island had to go to the hospital, Elijah is having a problem with his lung  ::MonkeyWaa:: hopefully she will come on later and tell us the little guy is alright, he is one little fighter  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 03:17:04 PM
Something has been dangling in my mind.  I know that there has been talk of a possible..doorbell.

Is / was it actually a ..doorbell someone heard the night Haleigh went missing????

Or..is it possible it was a ...cellphone...with a distinctive ring....like a doorbell.  I have listened to some cellphone rings, and some are actually quite real sounding, like a baby crying.

Just another thought to ponder....

Maybe I am mistaken here, but I thought that it was mentioned when there was talk on a cellphone and the background noise sounded like a doorbell.  Or...maybe I have it all wrong. ::MonkeyConfused::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: Grama I was looking for info about that last night. I was looking at some old videos and came across one that was talking about the doorbell. I asked over yonder and thay said it was in the background of a video or something, and it was the person who posted the video sound or something, I'm still  ::MonkeyConfused::  about the darn doorbell.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 20, 2009, 03:18:14 PM
Me too, a doorbell or a cell phone ring tone?

The video said, that LE came to a man named Marty Hubbard and told him they were looking for a doorbell that sounded like a grandfather clock.
Thanks, I remember this from a while back, I have heard many different door bells before, but none that have sounded like that. But I'm sure there are.

My MIL has one of those doorbells that you can change the tune it plays. It has a few different sounds, I haven't heard all of them but, one of them does sound like a grandfather clock. What I don't understand is if it was just background noise on a youtube video someone posted about the case, why would LE be interested in that, and how did it lead them to that guy? Sounds like a tip of some kind ...... but what kind of tip involves a doorbell and/or grandfather clock.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 20, 2009, 03:18:53 PM

Hey Donna, good to hear from you!  You are such a gracious soul to send Crystal a gift of funds!  She is trying to stay in Baker County for some doctors ordered ROR after her last seizure.  Emotionally, this tragedy has taken a tremendous toll on her nerves.  She is so anxious to get back to Satsuma to what she refers to as “Haleigh’s House” (the Haleigh Bug Center), but we are all encouraging her to ease back into it.  I think she believes that Haleigh may just walk through that door one day!  It’s an optimistic dream, and hope from the bottom of my heart that Haleigh can one day spend time playing in that little building Crystal has decorated for her. 

 

Crystal is not able to apply for jobs at this point, because the doctor wants her to be as “stress free” as possible until her next EEG rules out every possible thing.  They have done test after test, but so far, doctors have found nothing physically wrong to cause the seizures.  They are saying they believe it is due to her extreme emotional trauma and stress.  Consequently, she is seeking solace from home, being a mom to Chloe,
  and 
and to little Junior on weekends.  She is mailing out Amber Alert flyers during the kids’ nap time, and trying to help set up the new non profit corp for Haleigh and other missing children.  It’s impossible, of course, to keep a mother of a missing child from being up night and day, thinking of what else she could possibly do to find her little girl. 

 

Again, your gift of funds will make her life a little easier to cope with – regardless of the amount – Crystal cries sometimes, just knowing that there are folks out there to support her, a complete stranger to them.  I told her that there is still a lot of good people left in the world.  She wants so much to be strong enough to be more worthwhile to the Center, and eventually to helping with the Foundation.  But right now, she needs to rest, cope, and wait for Haleigh’s safe return.  Thank you so much, Donna, for being a friend and symbol of support to Crystal.  I am sending her this email so she’ll understand your true empathy and compassion for her and her family.  Your gift will brighten her spirit, and maybe give her one less problem in day to day life to have to deal with.  I’ll let you know when I’m coming back to town.  I believe in about a week.  I’d love to do lunch!  Keep in touch, and thank you for your kind, generous spirit.   Speak with you soon I hope!

 

Oh!  You can send the gift to Crystal’s home address:                                              Thank You so Much!

 

Kim L. Picazio, Esquire

Law Office of Kim L. Picazio, PA


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 03:19:57 PM
Sorry about that above post.  For some reason, my computer keeps jumping up rows, when I am responding to a quote, therefore, making it impossible to see what/where I am typing.  I have tried to figure it out.... ::MonkeyConfused::  as you can see, I was not lucky. ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 20, 2009, 03:20:42 PM
Thats one of the E-mails I just recieved from Kim, I had to take out a few things like address and other names that were in there, but I wanted to post it for those that wanted to hear what she had to say!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 03:24:20 PM
http://www.bloggernews.net/120946

In regards to Simon Barrett's blog. After reading what he had to say about this case thus far I sat back and thought about everything to do with this case myself for a while. From the beginning I felt things were bass ackwards. My son is dyslexic and I understand the troubles he has in deciphering simple words. I have a niece who is a mirror twin and she used to write backwards. She has had special intervention that taught her to write correctly now thank goodness. Not so much with my son as he is still struggling. I think that with this case that I am feeling like my son must feel which is pure and sheer frustration at this point.

I am thinking about how Simon is asking the question about who is working for who and it is making my head spin right now. (More like a feeling of having vertigo really.)

Is it inside conflict of interest maybe? (in-fighting) or is there more to it?
It seems distracting at this point and I am looking forward to an update to straighten things out in regards to this.

On another note the body that was found could very possibly be CR. I'm not looking forward to finding out who it is exactly because it is sad no matter what but too it may be able to rule out one possibility in the Haleigh Cummings case.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 20, 2009, 03:24:34 PM
Thats one of the E-mails I just recieved from Kim, I had to take out a few things like address and other names that were in there, but I wanted to post it for those that wanted to hear what she had to say!
Thank-you for posting that, I have no doubt in my mind that stress, and the horrible trauma she is going through has brought about seizures.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 20, 2009, 03:25:58 PM
Sorry about that above post.  For some reason, my computer keeps jumping up rows, when I am responding to a quote, therefore, making it impossible to see what/where I am typing.  I have tried to figure it out.... ::MonkeyConfused::  as you can see, I was not lucky. ::MonkeyDevil::

I found what you were saying.  ::MonkeyCool:: Now that you mention it, I do remember some talk about background in a phone call or something, I think this story just kinda went away.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 20, 2009, 03:28:43 PM
http://www.bloggernews.net/120946

In regards to Simon Barrett's blog. After reading what he had to say about this case thus far I sat back and thought about everything to do with this case myself for a while. From the beginning I felt things were bass ackwards. My son is dyslexic and I understand the troubles he has in deciphering simple words. I have a niece who is a mirror twin and she used to write backwards. She has had special intervention that taught her to write correctly now thank goodness. Not so much with my son as he is still struggling. I think that with this case that I am feeling like my son must feel which is pure and sheer frustration at this point.

I am thinking about how Simon is asking the question about who is working for who and it is making my head spin right now. (More like a feeling of having vertigo really.)

Is it inside conflict of interest maybe? (in-fighting) or is there more to it?
It seems distracting at this point and I am looking forward to an update to straighten things out in regards to this.

On another note the body that was found could very possibly be CR. I'm not looking forward to finding out who it is exactly because it is sad no matter what but too it may be able to rule out one possibility in the Haleigh Cummings case.



I can just imagine how frustrating it is for your son  ::MonkeyAngel:: That blog and the comments are interesting, and like one of the comments, why is this person leaving cryptic clues? I'd like to know also  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 03:28:45 PM
Hey Island, are you here?
Island had to go to the hospital, Elijah is having a problem with his lung  ::MonkeyWaa:: hopefully she will come on later and tell us the little guy is alright, he is one little fighter  ::MonkeyAngel::

Prayers for little Elijah. Be well little man!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 20, 2009, 03:33:57 PM
http://www.bloggernews.net/120946

In regards to Simon Barrett's blog. After reading what he had to say about this case thus far I sat back and thought about everything to do with this case myself for a while. From the beginning I felt things were bass ackwards. My son is dyslexic and I understand the troubles he has in deciphering simple words. I have a niece who is a mirror twin and she used to write backwards. She has had special intervention that taught her to write correctly now thank goodness. Not so much with my son as he is still struggling. I think that with this case that I am feeling like my son must feel which is pure and sheer frustration at this point.

I am thinking about how Simon is asking the question about who is working for who and it is making my head spin right now. (More like a feeling of having vertigo really.)

Is it inside conflict of interest maybe? (in-fighting) or is there more to it?
It seems distracting at this point and I am looking forward to an update to straighten things out in regards to this.

On another note the body that was found could very possibly be CR. I'm not looking forward to finding out who it is exactly because it is sad no matter what but too it may be able to rule out one possibility in the Haleigh Cummings case.




There was chatter over yonder about his blog and comments on the blog. I went and read the article he wrote and a couple comments, and I am  ::MonkeyConfused:: I don't understand what he and Cobra are saying or talking about, and honestly I don't wanna play their little game. Sounds like he has issues with KP(?) .... whatever his problem especially if it has nothing to do with Haleigh, he needs to either get over it, or just come out and say WTH he is talking about, and if it DOES have something to do with Haleigh ...... SHAME ON HIM .... who plays games with a missing child case .......as for Simon maybe he had some of what Pickles has been drinking.  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 20, 2009, 03:36:25 PM
Hey Island, are you here?
Island had to go to the hospital, Elijah is having a problem with his lung  ::MonkeyWaa:: hopefully she will come on later and tell us the little guy is alright, he is one little fighter  ::MonkeyAngel::

So sorry to hear that ... I hope he's OK. Prayer are with Island and family.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 03:37:28 PM
Thats one of the E-mails I just recieved from Kim, I had to take out a few things like address and other names that were in there, but I wanted to post it for those that wanted to hear what she had to say!
thanks for sharing that HH! a few weeks ago I posted a note of encouragement to Crystal here,hoping she reads it and wishing I could do more to help her feel the hope and prayers being said for her, Haleigh and her family!! no one should have to feel the incredible pain of the lose of a child and to have a missing child must drive you toward complete insanity. The worry and fear in her every moment is no wonder she has had seizures and it sounds asinine to say rest and relax to someone going through that horror!   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 03:38:22 PM
http://www.bloggernews.net/120946

In regards to Simon Barrett's blog. After reading what he had to say about this case thus far I sat back and thought about everything to do with this case myself for a while. From the beginning I felt things were bass ackwards. My son is dyslexic and I understand the troubles he has in deciphering simple words. I have a niece who is a mirror twin and she used to write backwards. She has had special intervention that taught her to write correctly now thank goodness. Not so much with my son as he is still struggling. I think that with this case that I am feeling like my son must feel which is pure and sheer frustration at this point.

I am thinking about how Simon is asking the question about who is working for who and it is making my head spin right now. (More like a feeling of having vertigo really.)

Is it inside conflict of interest maybe? (in-fighting) or is there more to it?
It seems distracting at this point and I am looking forward to an update to straighten things out in regards to this.

On another note the body that was found could very possibly be CR. I'm not looking forward to finding out who it is exactly because it is sad no matter what but too it may be able to rule out one possibility in the Haleigh Cummings case.



I can just imagine how frustrating it is for your son  ::MonkeyAngel:: That blog and the comments are interesting, and like one of the comments, why is this person leaving cryptic clues? I'd like to know also  ::MonkeyConfused::

It could also be a cryptic message to someone specific who is involved with this case too.
(I've never had vertigo but the way I feel right now about this seriously feels vertigo-ish.)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 03:40:59 PM
http://www.bloggernews.net/120946

In regards to Simon Barrett's blog. After reading what he had to say about this case thus far I sat back and thought about everything to do with this case myself for a while. From the beginning I felt things were bass ackwards. My son is dyslexic and I understand the troubles he has in deciphering simple words. I have a niece who is a mirror twin and she used to write backwards. She has had special intervention that taught her to write correctly now thank goodness. Not so much with my son as he is still struggling. I think that with this case that I am feeling like my son must feel which is pure and sheer frustration at this point.

I am thinking about how Simon is asking the question about who is working for who and it is making my head spin right now. (More like a feeling of having vertigo really.)

Is it inside conflict of interest maybe? (in-fighting) or is there more to it?
It seems distracting at this point and I am looking forward to an update to straighten things out in regards to this.

On another note the body that was found could very possibly be CR. I'm not looking forward to finding out who it is exactly because it is sad no matter what but too it may be able to rule out one possibility in the Haleigh Cummings case.




There was chatter over yonder about his blog and comments on the blog. I went and read the article he wrote and a couple comments, and I am  ::MonkeyConfused:: I don't understand what he and Cobra are saying or talking about, and honestly I don't wanna play their little game. Sounds like he has issues with KP(?) .... whatever his problem especially if it has nothing to do with Haleigh, he needs to either get over it, or just come out and say WTH he is talking about, and if it DOES have something to do with Haleigh ...... SHAME ON HIM .... who plays games with a missing child case .......as for Simon maybe he had some of what Pickles has been drinking.  ::MonkeyDevil::
::MonkeyDevil:: Oh my my my how I so totally agree with you!
I saw the --> ::MonkeyConfused:: <-- and I almost blew chunks. So not cool.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 03:50:06 PM
Something has been dangling in my mind.  I know that there has been talk of a possible..doorbell.

Is / was it actually a ..doorbell someone heard the night Haleigh went missing????

Or..is it possible it was a ...cellphone...with a distinctive ring....like a doorbell.  I have listened to some cellphone rings, and some are actually quite real sounding, like a baby crying.

Just another thought to ponder....

From what I heard, an older person's door bell was run that night.. not sure where that person lived, I guess it was reported to Le??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 03:53:40 PM
Regarding the blog of Barrett's....

Why put out...little clues, little hints, and leave the ropes dangling.  If it has something to do with Haleigh's disappearance, get your arses over to LE and get this out in the open.

If it has to do with inter problems of those that have involved themselves in this case, then that is something that they will have to sort out...don't come on the net, whining about problems, when you are becoming or have become  part of them.

Monkey's have enough researching to do to find Haleigh.  Monkey's cannot solve all of the other issues too....so as they say...chit or get off the pot.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 03:56:46 PM
Regarding the blog of Barrett's....

Why put out...little clues, little hints, and leave the ropes dangling.  If it has something to do with Haleigh's disappearance, get your arses over to LE and get this out in the open.

If it has to do with inter problems of those that have involved themselves in this case, then that is something that they will have to sort out...don't come on the net, whining about problems, when you are becoming or have become  part of them.

Monkey's have enough researching to do to find Haleigh.  Monkey's cannot solve all of the other issues too....so as they say...chit or get off the pot.


EXACTLY!!!!!!! Thank you Grama!
Grama knows too!
(I got me a big ol' glass of sweet tea sitting here for ya Grams.)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 03:57:00 PM
Something has been dangling in my mind.  I know that there has been talk of a possible..doorbell.

Is / was it actually a ..doorbell someone heard the night Haleigh went missing????

Or..is it possible it was a ...cellphone...with a distinctive ring....like a doorbell.  I have listened to some cellphone rings, and some are actually quite real sounding, like a baby crying.

Just another thought to ponder....

From what I heard, an older person's door bell was run that night.. not sure where that person lived, I guess it was reported to Le??


Wonder if that may have been Paul Poppen, as I understand he moved a few weeks afterwards, but supposedly he was a Snowbird. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: darla on May 20, 2009, 03:57:59 PM
Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!!

If there is a pressor this afternoon could someone in the area update on it here?

IM.... prayers from Auntie Darla for Elijah and family. He is a fighter and I am sure he will pull through this setback. Kiss his lil head for me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 20, 2009, 03:58:14 PM
Regarding the blog of Barrett's....

Why put out...little clues, little hints, and leave the ropes dangling.  If it has something to do with Haleigh's disappearance, get your arses over to LE and get this out in the open.

If it has to do with inter problems of those that have involved themselves in this case, then that is something that they will have to sort out...don't come on the net, whining about problems, when you are becoming or have become  part of them.

Monkey's have enough researching to do to find Haleigh.  Monkey's cannot solve all of the other issues too....so as they say...chit or get off the pot.



 :2notworthy: well said Grama!!!! (http://bestsmileys.com/clapping/2.gif)

Someone at WS found that KP's husband is in the business of bio-fuels, could be what they are talking about, how it relates to finding Haleigh I have no clue.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 03:59:40 PM
Regarding the blog of Barrett's....

Why put out...little clues, little hints, and leave the ropes dangling.  If it has something to do with Haleigh's disappearance, get your arses over to LE and get this out in the open.

If it has to do with inter problems of those that have involved themselves in this case, then that is something that they will have to sort out...don't come on the net, whining about problems, when you are becoming or have become  part of them.

Monkey's have enough researching to do to find Haleigh.  Monkey's cannot solve all of the other issues too....so as they say...chit or get off the pot.


EXACTLY!!!!!!! Thank you Grama!
Grama knows too!
(I got me a big ol' glass of sweet tea sitting here for ya Grams.)

Thank you....and maybe you can give me a briefing as to what this sweet tea is that everyone speaks about. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 03:59:40 PM
Simon's article is just a blog to keep the blog going IMO, lawyers lawyering up, so what? if I were a lawyer involved in a case like this and money was being handled, deposited, withdrawn, ect., I'd have a lawyer too just to keep everything on the up and up. many of the people you complain about who's getting what monies are the same people asking for funds for themselves so they can continue their "work", MAKE SOME PROGRESS PEOPLE, stop trying to show how much shadier others are than yourself! geez, we're always hearing something gonna break and yet when we hear the new story it answers NOTHING ABOUT HALEIGH'S WHEREABOUTS! gawd it's maddening at times...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 04:03:59 PM
Regarding the blog of Barrett's....

Why put out...little clues, little hints, and leave the ropes dangling.  If it has something to do with Haleigh's disappearance, get your arses over to LE and get this out in the open.

If it has to do with inter problems of those that have involved themselves in this case, then that is something that they will have to sort out...don't come on the net, whining about problems, when you are becoming or have become  part of them.

Monkey's have enough researching to do to find Haleigh.  Monkey's cannot solve all of the other issues too....so as they say...chit or get off the pot.


EXACTLY!!!!!!! Thank you Grama!
Grama knows too!
(I got me a big ol' glass of sweet tea sitting here for ya Grams.)

Thank you....and maybe you can give me a briefing as to what this sweet tea is that everyone speaks about. 

OH, I think I figured out the clue...hmmmm.... sweet tea =  orange & vodka....am I right???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 04:05:14 PM
Regarding the blog of Barrett's....

Why put out...little clues, little hints, and leave the ropes dangling.  If it has something to do with Haleigh's disappearance, get your arses over to LE and get this out in the open.

If it has to do with inter problems of those that have involved themselves in this case, then that is something that they will have to sort out...don't come on the net, whining about problems, when you are becoming or have become  part of them.

Monkey's have enough researching to do to find Haleigh.  Monkey's cannot solve all of the other issues too....so as they say...chit or get off the pot.



 :2notworthy: well said Grama!!!! (http://bestsmileys.com/clapping/2.gif)

Someone at WS found that KP's husband is in the business of bio-fuels, could be what they are talking about, how it relates to finding Haleigh I have no clue.
maybe they feel Haleigh is a child prodigy whose mind holds answers as to new and amazing ways of the future and are peeved they are not being cut in... it's just that inane


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 04:05:37 PM
Regarding the blog of Barrett's....

Why put out...little clues, little hints, and leave the ropes dangling.  If it has something to do with Haleigh's disappearance, get your arses over to LE and get this out in the open.

If it has to do with inter problems of those that have involved themselves in this case, then that is something that they will have to sort out...don't come on the net, whining about problems, when you are becoming or have become  part of them.

Monkey's have enough researching to do to find Haleigh.  Monkey's cannot solve all of the other issues too....so as they say...chit or get off the pot.


EXACTLY!!!!!!! Thank you Grama!
Grama knows too!
(I got me a big ol' glass of sweet tea sitting here for ya Grams.)

Thank you....and maybe you can give me a briefing as to what this sweet tea is that everyone speaks about. 
Well since you asked, sweet tea to me is like "gonolusga nuwodi" which in tsalagi/(Cherokee) means medicine wind. Medicine wind is what you pray for on a hot and miserable day. (That's my humble answer.)
PS the only way you can get good sweet tea is to make sure the sugar melts and is in no way still crystalized. (JMO)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 20, 2009, 04:11:31 PM
mlee thank you for correcting my error in post #1567 from the last cage.....apologies to all of the monkeys....I can't figure out what went wrong I got that from mapquest , posted the directions and the link....perhaps it was an old listing and Mema has since moved her restraunt ? Afterall a town that small and food that good maybe she needed a bigger place? Or maybe just a mapquest error? Who knows anyway thank you for correcting that for me , this case is confusing enough with out incorrect information.... ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 04:11:39 PM
Thank you, wonder if the native reserve near my home would have any info on that.  Maybe during their pow wows ...  as their native language is Ojibway.  But, most are fluent English speaking.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 04:16:18 PM
I think the board froze up?  ::MonkeyLaugh::
Here's how my family makes sweet tea in case that is the answer you were looking for?
Put some sugar in a pitcher, well quite a bit of sugar really, like a cup or well we use about a cup and a half sometimes more or less it depends, add hot water and stir till all sugar is dissolved then add your tea bags (we use four sometimes five) and let it set till you achieve desired tea strength. Fill up a glass (It has to be glass) with ice and add your sweet tea and there ya go.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 04:27:07 PM
Thank you, wonder if the native reserve near my home would have any info on that.  Maybe during their pow wows ...  as their native language is Ojibway.  But, most are fluent English speaking.
My Husband is Ojibway and Cherokee too LOL!
Yes most speak English and language preservation is crucial to all tribes and many speak fluently in their native tounge as well. I speak a few languages.
Hopefully the directions I gave for sweet tea in the last thread cleared things up a little better.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 04:36:36 PM
I can find reason to understand why the Cummings would not want to attend the vigil with the A's being there also and what not. Ok fine. With that said, I really can't understand why Ron and Misty couldn't attend the vigil in Leesburg. If there were some legit understandable reason then fine but I haven't heard about any.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 20, 2009, 04:43:18 PM
Something big must have happened on the Rumor Thread #56 at WS, it's not only closed it went poof  ::MonkeyEek:: Anyone no what happened?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: SunnyinTX on May 20, 2009, 04:44:02 PM
Hey Island, are you here?
Island had to go to the hospital, Elijah is having a problem with his lung  ::MonkeyWaa:: hopefully she will come on later and tell us the little guy is alright, he is one little fighter  ::MonkeyAngel::

Oh my...I do hope he is OK....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 04:48:22 PM
Something big must have happened on the Rumor Thread #56 at WS, it's not only closed it went poof  ::MonkeyEek:: Anyone no what happened?

The rumor thread, is it one of the ones not available to the general public viewer?
WS is pretty strict on some things apparently and unfortunately unless you're a member some of us folks can't see a lot of the goings ons there.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 20, 2009, 04:52:13 PM
Something big must have happened on the Rumor Thread #56 at WS, it's not only closed it went poof  ::MonkeyEek:: Anyone no what happened?

The rumor thread, is it one of the ones not available to the general public viewer?
WS is pretty strict on some things apparently and unfortunately unless you're a member some of us folks can't see a lot of the goings ons there.
It's in the parking lot where you have to be a member, and it gets crazy in the rumor thread, and then they close it for awhile and reopen it. This time it completely went poof.  ::MonkeyEek:: Curious if there was some interesting info they were discussing, or if it was just fighting.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 04:52:34 PM
Not sure if this link has been posted yet or not.
(Includes audio from Kim P.)

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 05:03:22 PM
From another poster at another site the poster is saying that they believe it was Crystal's cousin Candace who reportedly saw Ron backhand Haleigh.
(I have no idea if this is true or not.)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 20, 2009, 05:13:31 PM
From another poster at another site the poster is saying that they believe it was Crystal's cousin Candace who reportedly saw Ron backhand Haleigh.
(I have no idea if this is true or not.)
Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 05:29:52 PM
Something big must have happened on the Rumor Thread #56 at WS, it's not only closed it went poof  ::MonkeyEek:: Anyone no what happened?

I was over there about the time it said was closed until 6PM.  I did not notice any type of aruguing or fighting going on.  There was a post made by b..me, that apparently stated that lived close to where Tori Stafford was from ( that would put this person in Canada) anyhow, continuing with the post, stated that due to the Stafford findings etc...that she/he would be UNABLE to continue with the Haleigh searching thread.   However, should an arrest be made, then would return to the forum.  Now, some asked specifics, but I did not see anymore replies.  I tried to go and pick up the post...but it has also been deleted from posters info.

I always thought that this person was a local, but maybe there is another connection somehow.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 05:33:10 PM
I think the board froze up?  ::MonkeyLaugh::
Here's how my family makes sweet tea in case that is the answer you were looking for?
Put some sugar in a pitcher, well quite a bit of sugar really, like a cup or well we use about a cup and a half sometimes more or less it depends, add hot water and stir till all sugar is dissolved then add your tea bags (we use four sometimes five) and let it set till you achieve desired tea strength. Fill up a glass (It has to be glass) with ice and add your sweet tea and there ya go.

Thanks, Patricia....will have to give it a try.  Maybe my grandchildren will like it for a cool drink.  I am a coffee hound, but sometimes I consume the canned iced tea.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 20, 2009, 05:37:08 PM
Something big must have happened on the Rumor Thread #56 at WS, it's not only closed it went poof  ::MonkeyEek:: Anyone no what happened?

I was over there about the time it said was closed until 6PM.  I did not notice any type of aruguing or fighting going on.  There was a post made by b..me, that apparently stated that lived close to where Tori Stafford was from ( that would put this person in Canada) anyhow, continuing with the post, stated that due to the Stafford findings etc...that she/he would be UNABLE to continue with the Haleigh searching thread.   However, should an arrest be made, then would return to the forum.  Now, some asked specifics, but I did not see anymore replies.  I tried to go and pick up the post...but it has also been deleted from posters info.

I always thought that this person was a local, but maybe there is another connection somehow.
Thank-you, now that is odd. This person does have connections with someone in the Satsuma area, what she calls her sources, but I had no idea she lived in Canada. How very strange that she could not continue with the Haleigh searching thread, due to the Stafford findings. Now my mind is in overdrive.  ::MonkeyEek:: Wonder who this person really is?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 05:41:53 PM
From another poster at another site the poster is saying that they believe it was Crystal's cousin Candace who reportedly saw Ron backhand Haleigh.
(I have no idea if this is true or not.)
Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::

You're welcome No Rose.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 20, 2009, 05:44:02 PM
Since Brandi is away, I thought I'd give this a shot.

(http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv267/Maven2379/haleightest.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 05:46:04 PM
Something big must have happened on the Rumor Thread #56 at WS, it's not only closed it went poof  ::MonkeyEek:: Anyone no what happened?

I was over there about the time it said was closed until 6PM.  I did not notice any type of aruguing or fighting going on.  There was a post made by b..me, that apparently stated that lived close to where Tori Stafford was from ( that would put this person in Canada) anyhow, continuing with the post, stated that due to the Stafford findings etc...that she/he would be UNABLE to continue with the Haleigh searching thread.   However, should an arrest be made, then would return to the forum.  Now, some asked specifics, but I did not see anymore replies.  I tried to go and pick up the post...but it has also been deleted from posters info.

I always thought that this person was a local, but maybe there is another connection somehow.
Thank-you, now that is odd. This person does have connections with someone in the Satsuma area, what she calls her sources, but I had no idea she lived in Canada. How very strange that she could not continue with the Haleigh searching thread, due to the Stafford findings. Now my mind is in overdrive.  ::MonkeyEek:: Wonder who this person really is?

From what I read....I felt that may have had something to do with possibly pre-decisions as to who maybe the culprit/guilty party.  Pre - judgement.  Maybe residence isn't in Canada, but something triggered the decision.  Funny how we read so many articles in the news, and how we can sometimes put ourselves in other's situations. How about the fact of info being put out??? Just my thought....which we can have many of course.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 05:48:09 PM
Since Brandi is away, I thought I'd give this a shot.

(http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv267/Maven2379/haleightest.jpg)

Thank you Maven for bringing that forward.  I am sure Brandi  ::MonkeyAngel:: will be pleased.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 20, 2009, 05:48:11 PM
Something big must have happened on the Rumor Thread #56 at WS, it's not only closed it went poof  ::MonkeyEek:: Anyone no what happened?

I was over there about the time it said was closed until 6PM.  I did not notice any type of aruguing or fighting going on.  There was a post made by b..me, that apparently stated that lived close to where Tori Stafford was from ( that would put this person in Canada) anyhow, continuing with the post, stated that due to the Stafford findings etc...that she/he would be UNABLE to continue with the Haleigh searching thread.   However, should an arrest be made, then would return to the forum.  Now, some asked specifics, but I did not see anymore replies.  I tried to go and pick up the post...but it has also been deleted from posters info.

I always thought that this person was a local, but maybe there is another connection somehow.

Not sure who their (b...me) contact is, but they seem to know some stuff. I didn't notice any fighting either, looked like evryone was getting along fairly well. I saw that they were questioning who the J person was, I don't think that would shut it down tho. Who knows, guess I'll check back in after 6.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 05:51:55 PM
Something big must have happened on the Rumor Thread #56 at WS, it's not only closed it went poof  ::MonkeyEek:: Anyone no what happened?

I was over there about the time it said was closed until 6PM.  I did not notice any type of aruguing or fighting going on.  There was a post made by b..me, that apparently stated that lived close to where Tori Stafford was from ( that would put this person in Canada) anyhow, continuing with the post, stated that due to the Stafford findings etc...that she/he would be UNABLE to continue with the Haleigh searching thread.   However, should an arrest be made, then would return to the forum.  Now, some asked specifics, but I did not see anymore replies.  I tried to go and pick up the post...but it has also been deleted from posters info.

I always thought that this person was a local, but maybe there is another connection somehow.

Not sure who their (b...me) contact is, but they seem to know some stuff. I didn't notice any fighting either, looked like evryone was getting along fairly well. I saw that they were questioning who the J person was, I don't think that would shut it down tho. Who knows, guess I'll check back in after 6.

Maven, I jumped the gun here....this possibly can be your pic...if so, I am sorry as did not see Brandi's name on it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 20, 2009, 05:52:25 PM

Thank you Maven for bringing that forward.  I am sure Brandi  ::MonkeyAngel:: will be pleased.

It's not as good as Brandi's pictures but I have only worked with paint shop a couple times. Hope you guys like it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 05:59:37 PM

Thank you Maven for bringing that forward.  I am sure Brandi  ::MonkeyAngel:: will be pleased.

It's not as good as Brandi's pictures but I have only worked with paint shop a couple times. Hope you guys like it.
it's awesome Maven! nice work!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 06:06:40 PM
I think the board froze up?  ::MonkeyLaugh::
Here's how my family makes sweet tea in case that is the answer you were looking for?
Put some sugar in a pitcher, well quite a bit of sugar really, like a cup or well we use about a cup and a half sometimes more or less it depends, add hot water and stir till all sugar is dissolved then add your tea bags (we use four sometimes five) and let it set till you achieve desired tea strength. Fill up a glass (It has to be glass) with ice and add your sweet tea and there ya go.

Thanks, Patricia....will have to give it a try.  Maybe my grandchildren will like it for a cool drink.  I am a coffee hound, but sometimes I consume the canned iced tea.   ::MonkeyWink::
LOL you and my Mother would be two peas in a pod on the coffee. (Canned tea hasn't got a thing on sweet tea.)

~Saying prayers that little Haleigh will be found soon~


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 06:13:13 PM

Thank you Maven for bringing that forward.  I am sure Brandi  ::MonkeyAngel:: will be pleased.

It's not as good as Brandi's pictures but I have only worked with paint shop a couple times. Hope you guys like it.

It's beautiful Maven. Thank you.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 06:20:21 PM

Thank you Maven for bringing that forward.  I am sure Brandi  ::MonkeyAngel:: will be pleased.

It's not as good as Brandi's pictures but I have only worked with paint shop a couple times. Hope you guys like it.

It is beautiful, Maven   ::MonkeyAngel::  You have done an excellent job.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 20, 2009, 06:20:51 PM
Very beautiful, thanks Maven  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 20, 2009, 06:34:06 PM
Thank you monkeys!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 06:45:37 PM
mlee thank you for correcting my error in post #1567 from the last cage.....apologies to all of the monkeys....I can't figure out what went wrong I got that from mapquest , posted the directions and the link....perhaps it was an old listing and Mema has since moved her restraunt ? Afterall a town that small and food that good maybe she needed a bigger place? Or maybe just a mapquest error? Who knows anyway thank you for correcting that for me , this case is confusing enough with out incorrect information.... ::MonkeyConfused::

It's okay sweety,  our lady in Satsuma lives right at hand, and she is a guest.. so she sends me emails with info on Satsuma..  I wouldn't have known either.  I've been to Florida once,  we vacationed at St. Pete's beach about 5 years ago.. great vacation and hated to leave Gulf.. But, had I looked it up, would have been the same for me.. you didn't do anything wrong..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 07:22:45 PM
I don't have any idea how the Stafford case could involve the Cummings case, no clue..

And I am not going to defend Barrett's Blog.. But, I do believe there is info there that we were not aware of prior.. I picked up on several things and a possible confirmation on something.  I know it was confusing the way creptic little statements were made. But.. wow, if what I think has occurred it blows my mind, and I know it will blow you guys away..  When he is talking about oil.. we have several choices.
1. that he is referring to KP's husband and his affiations.
2. that he is referring to Money.
3. the reference to Sweet Oil is Money, dropping at their feet.

makes reference to a lawyer who hired a lawyer. Why would a lawyer need a Lawyer.
1. civil action
2. criminal action
3. Financial issues.

He makes reference to the same background group of attorneys what were involved and caught in crap with the Anthony's. Like they are trying to involve themselves in Haleigh's Case.

He makes reference to a trail of Money.. Well I got that one, because I had found a post.. that most people overlooked, because the writer of the post act's like a fool who can't spell, lives in the back woods and terrible grammer. Except, when they slip up and their grammer is good, very good.. And sentence structures are about perfect.  We are talking about Rainy.. remember Rainy.. we discussed that well. I am going to post Rainy's original post, and I want you to think, about a trail of Money.

Read this very carefully, and I  think this is the trail of money.....

"oh come on art, cobra got mad because kim p had said he could use the money crystal gave him to give her, the money was owed to kim p. and kim p had cobra bail out nay nay and amber. or let cobra use it for bail cobra got upset. so he said that thing about crystal.
cause he got mad crystal called him on this crap. LE has said nobody has been ruled out. Art."

Now, think.. Who would know about this?
If Kim is Pro Pono.. why does Crystal owe her Money?  Where does the money go from Kim?

And last reference he Made, was McDonalds
The drop off point and pick up point for ron and crystal exchanging the kids.

Cobra's comment:  About leaving town..

This does tell a story, and it is indirect..  I would honestly say, for this to be released,  a resolve is close, and these guys are busting a gut not to able to tell everything they know.  It is close.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 20, 2009, 07:29:36 PM
There are many boats sounds... ::MonkeyTongue::

The 3 ring low harbor chime

Almost church bell chime

Kooking for one that sounds like grand father clock chime

http://www.sounddogs.com/results.asp?Type=1&CategoryID=1010&SubcategoryID=11


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 07:47:19 PM
There are many boats sounds... ::MonkeyTongue::

The 3 ring low harbor chime

Almost church bell chime

Kooking for one that sounds like grand father clock chime

http://www.sounddogs.com/results.asp?Type=1&CategoryID=1010&SubcategoryID=11

Try this site Jersey....


http://www.audiosparx.com/sa/realtones/tones.cfm/rtone.true/sound_group_iid.2414


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 07:48:51 PM
I don't have any idea how the Stafford case could involve the Cummings case, no clue..

And I am not going to defend Barrett's Blog.. But, I do believe there is info there that we were not aware of prior.. I picked up on several things and a possible confirmation on something.  I know it was confusing the way creptic little statements were made. But.. wow, if what I think has occurred it blows my mind, and I know it will blow you guys away..  When he is talking about oil.. we have several choices.
1. that he is referring to KP's husband and his affiations.
2. that he is referring to Money.
3. the reference to Sweet Oil is Money, dropping at their feet.

makes reference to a lawyer who hired a lawyer. Why would a lawyer need a Lawyer.
1. civil action
2. criminal action
3. Financial issues.

He makes reference to the same background group of attorneys what were involved and caught in crap with the Anthony's. Like they are trying to involve themselves in Haleigh's Case.

He makes reference to a trail of Money.. Well I got that one, because I had found a post.. that most people overlooked, because the writer of the post act's like a fool who can't spell, lives in the back woods and terrible grammer. Except, when they slip up and their grammer is good, very good.. And sentence structures are about perfect.  We are talking about Rainy.. remember Rainy.. we discussed that well. I am going to post Rainy's original post, and I want you to think, about a trail of Money.

Read this very carefully, and I  think this is the trail of money.....

"oh come on art, cobra got mad because kim p had said he could use the money crystal gave him to give her, the money was owed to kim p. and kim p had cobra bail out nay nay and amber. or let cobra use it for bail cobra got upset. so he said that thing about crystal.
cause he got mad crystal called him on this crap. LE has said nobody has been ruled out. Art."

Now, think.. Who would know about this?
If Kim is Pro Pono.. why does Crystal owe her Money?  Where does the money go from Kim?

And last reference he Made, was McDonalds
The drop off point and pick up point for ron and crystal exchanging the kids.

Cobra's comment:  About leaving town..

This does tell a story, and it is indirect..  I would honestly say, for this to be released,  a resolve is close, and these guys are busting a gut not to able to tell everything they know.  It is close.
I hope you are right Mlee about this being close and they are having a hard time sitting still knowing what's to come.  I have thought the lawyer lawyering up is in regard to financial issues, it just makes sense especially with the Haleighbug center becoming a not for profit org. I also got the McDonald's reference as being the drop off/meeting place for the kids but am lost at the money trail unless it is being inferred that monies are funneled out of the center and to RC or that branch of the family??? As for myself, I am finding it hard to believe we are close to the truth and am losing faith anyone is rushing to bring Haleigh out from the hiding place she's been for the past three months. At one point I had believed this child was dead but I changed my mind quite a while ago and believe the "sweet oil" some believe others are enjoying, keeps them from devulging all they know, waiting for their fair share, jmo. I read and reread rainy's posts since I'm with you as in I believe there are clues in some of those posts, rainy is far from what he/she tries to portray.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 20, 2009, 07:51:58 PM
Thanks grama.. We don't know if the trail ended for Haleigh @ the r/r tracks or down by the water .. Now I wonder if a boat picked her up and the chime that was in question could of came from a boat.. ::MonkeyTongue::


Prayers for Haleigh...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 07:57:20 PM
I don't have any idea how the Stafford case could involve the Cummings case, no clue..

And I am not going to defend Barrett's Blog.. But, I do believe there is info there that we were not aware of prior.. I picked up on several things and a possible confirmation on something.  I know it was confusing the way creptic little statements were made. But.. wow, if what I think has occurred it blows my mind, and I know it will blow you guys away..  When he is talking about oil.. we have several choices.
1. that he is referring to KP's husband and his affiations.
2. that he is referring to Money.
3. the reference to Sweet Oil is Money, dropping at their feet.

makes reference to a lawyer who hired a lawyer. Why would a lawyer need a Lawyer.
1. civil action
2. criminal action
3. Financial issues.

He makes reference to the same background group of attorneys what were involved and caught in crap with the Anthony's. Like they are trying to involve themselves in Haleigh's Case.

He makes reference to a trail of Money.. Well I got that one, because I had found a post.. that most people overlooked, because the writer of the post act's like a fool who can't spell, lives in the back woods and terrible grammer. Except, when they slip up and their grammer is good, very good.. And sentence structures are about perfect.  We are talking about Rainy.. remember Rainy.. we discussed that well. I am going to post Rainy's original post, and I want you to think, about a trail of Money.

Read this very carefully, and I  think this is the trail of money.....

"oh come on art, cobra got mad because kim p had said he could use the money crystal gave him to give her, the money was owed to kim p. and kim p had cobra bail out nay nay and amber. or let cobra use it for bail cobra got upset. so he said that thing about crystal.
cause he got mad crystal called him on this crap. LE has said nobody has been ruled out. Art."

Now, think.. Who would know about this?
If Kim is Pro Pono.. why does Crystal owe her Money?  Where does the money go from Kim?

And last reference he Made, was McDonalds
The drop off point and pick up point for ron and crystal exchanging the kids.

Cobra's comment:  About leaving town..

This does tell a story, and it is indirect..  I would honestly say, for this to be released,  a resolve is close, and these guys are busting a gut not to able to tell everything they know.  It is close.
I hope you are right Mlee about this being close and they are having a hard time sitting still knowing what's to come.  I have thought the lawyer lawyering up is in regard to financial issues, it just makes sense especially with the Haleighbug center becoming a not for profit org. I also got the McDonald's reference as being the drop off/meeting place for the kids but am lost at the money trail unless it is being inferred that monies are funneled out of the center and to RC or that branch of the family??? As for myself, I am finding it hard to believe we are close to the truth and am losing faith anyone is rushing to bring Haleigh out from the hiding place she's been for the past three months. At one point I had believed this child was dead but I changed my mind quite a while ago and believe the "sweet oil" some believe others are enjoying, keeps them from devulging all they know, waiting for their fair share, jmo. I read and reread rainy's posts since I'm with you as in I believe there are clues in some of those posts, rainy is far from what he/she tries to portray.

When I read that Blog and things started to fall into place, everything that has occurred now makes perfect sense. I could almost hear those guys rolling around, just chomping at the pit.. Like it was Christmas Morning, and they had so much trouble holding back.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 08:00:44 PM
Another one of rainly post.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 6:34 am
Not making light of what? I read Llisa and do not see where it says Crystal Clear. It says clear alot though. So what if Crystal made up some lies. She needs to get attention on her situation. She can do what she wants with her money from Haleighbug. It is not anyones concern and if you do not like it, do not send money. Haleigh is Crystal daughter and Cobra need to stop asking for Crystal money.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 08:04:58 PM
I think this one begins with great detail.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
I do not think LE can rule anyone out Art. If they do then the other people will wonder why am I not ruled out. The real person that did this may get real careful. You saying LE has ruled Crystal out? Why did they say they have not ruled anyone out? Who else you think LE has ruled out?

I still say that Cobra brought in Kim P. Kim P went in the media and made Ron look Like shit. Ron let her say so much shit before he did one day get a lawyer. she was saying he beat Haleigh bloody and threw junior down the stairs. Then he goes and gets a lawyer and Cobra is saying Ron ran out and got a lawyer? No, Ron got a Lawyer because Crystal had one and Kim P was all over the news putting the focus on custody and abuse and off of missing Haleigh.

I am going to be saying so when I hear any cobra tales. Because now he has included crystal in his liar story.

Kim P has paid for some shit so Crystal owed her money. The money came out of Haleighbug to pay her back for Crystal bills she had helped with. It was give to Cobra to give to Kim. Then Nay and Amber need to be bailed out. Cobra talk to Kim and Kim say use the money to bail out girls. Me thinks because she want amber in rehab so she look good witness to take Junior to live w crystal. Cobra use this money for bail. no problem crystal do nothing wrong. All she do is pay back Kim P. Cobra here some person say that money give from Crystal to Cobra. Cobra go nuts. Say crystal hands not clean. Crystal not being true self in the media. Everyone say Cobra not say this, misquoted but Art say he talk to Cobra and Cobra did say this.

So what Cobra mean art? What you mean he want to be ambiguous? Mean because he really have no dirt on crystal and just had a piss fit?

---------------------------

Now, notice how he/she jumps back and forth on sides.. pro and con against crystal??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 20, 2009, 08:17:56 PM
I don't have any idea how the Stafford case could involve the Cummings case, no clue..

And I am not going to defend Barrett's Blog.. But, I do believe there is info there that we were not aware of prior.. I picked up on several things and a possible confirmation on something.  I know it was confusing the way creptic little statements were made. But.. wow, if what I think has occurred it blows my mind, and I know it will blow you guys away..  When he is talking about oil.. we have several choices.
1. that he is referring to KP's husband and his affiations.
2. that he is referring to Money.
3. the reference to Sweet Oil is Money, dropping at their feet.

makes reference to a lawyer who hired a lawyer. Why would a lawyer need a Lawyer.
1. civil action
2. criminal action
3. Financial issues.

He makes reference to the same background group of attorneys what were involved and caught in crap with the Anthony's. Like they are trying to involve themselves in Haleigh's Case.

He makes reference to a trail of Money.. Well I got that one, because I had found a post.. that most people overlooked, because the writer of the post act's like a fool who can't spell, lives in the back woods and terrible grammer. Except, when they slip up and their grammer is good, very good.. And sentence structures are about perfect.  We are talking about Rainy.. remember Rainy.. we discussed that well. I am going to post Rainy's original post, and I want you to think, about a trail of Money.

Read this very carefully, and I  think this is the trail of money.....

"oh come on art, cobra got mad because kim p had said he could use the money crystal gave him to give her, the money was owed to kim p. and kim p had cobra bail out nay nay and amber. or let cobra use it for bail cobra got upset. so he said that thing about crystal.
cause he got mad crystal called him on this crap. LE has said nobody has been ruled out. Art."

Now, think.. Who would know about this?
If Kim is Pro Pono.. why does Crystal owe her Money?  Where does the money go from Kim?

And last reference he Made, was McDonalds
The drop off point and pick up point for ron and crystal exchanging the kids.

Cobra's comment:  About leaving town..

This does tell a story, and it is indirect..  I would honestly say, for this to be released,  a resolve is close, and these guys are busting a gut not to able to tell everything they know.  It is close.

The way I understood it from interviews is that KP may have advanced crystal money to use as rent on the haleighbug and crystal was to pay her back once she got it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 08:19:16 PM
I think this one begins with great detail.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
I do not think LE can rule anyone out Art. If they do then the other people will wonder why am I not ruled out. The real person that did this may get real careful. You saying LE has ruled Crystal out? Why did they say they have not ruled anyone out? Who else you think LE has ruled out?

I still say that Cobra brought in Kim P. Kim P went in the media and made Ron look Like shit. Ron let her say so much shit before he did one day get a lawyer. she was saying he beat Haleigh bloody and threw junior down the stairs. Then he goes and gets a lawyer and Cobra is saying Ron ran out and got a lawyer? No, Ron got a Lawyer because Crystal had one and Kim P was all over the news putting the focus on custody and abuse and off of missing Haleigh.

I am going to be saying so when I hear any cobra tales. Because now he has included crystal in his liar story.

Kim P has paid for some shit so Crystal owed her money. The money came out of Haleighbug to pay her back for Crystal bills she had helped with. It was give to Cobra to give to Kim. Then Nay and Amber need to be bailed out. Cobra talk to Kim and Kim say use the money to bail out girls. Me thinks because she want amber in rehab so she look good witness to take Junior to live w crystal. Cobra use this money for bail. no problem crystal do nothing wrong. All she do is pay back Kim P. Cobra here some person say that money give from Crystal to Cobra. Cobra go nuts. Say crystal hands not clean. Crystal not being true self in the media. Everyone say Cobra not say this, misquoted but Art say he talk to Cobra and Cobra did say this.

So what Cobra mean art? What you mean he want to be ambiguous? Mean because he really have no dirt on crystal and just had a piss fit?

---------------------------

Now, notice how he/she jumps back and forth on sides.. pro and con against crystal??

I am getting confused here. Who do you believe that this Rainey person is exactly and if it is someone connected then what is in it for them to be posting these things on AH's website?  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 08:23:54 PM
I should add that I have been suspicious of that same poster for quite some time myself over things that were said and mannerism ect... but due to the flip flopping I couldn't quite make anything out of any of it. It could possibly just be an innocent poster questioning the validity of what is going on but yeah the posters notable grammatical styles and changes have me scratching my head.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 08:29:25 PM
Thanks grama.. We don't know if the trail ended for Haleigh @ the r/r tracks or down by the water .. Now I wonder if a boat picked her up and the chime that was in question could of came from a boat.. ::MonkeyTongue::


Prayers for Haleigh...

Excellent thought Jersey.  Someone could have been down there with a cellphone at the same time, and that is what the person heard.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 08:33:56 PM
I think this one begins with great detail.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
I do not think LE can rule anyone out Art. If they do then the other people will wonder why am I not ruled out. The real person that did this may get real careful. You saying LE has ruled Crystal out? Why did they say they have not ruled anyone out? Who else you think LE has ruled out?

I still say that Cobra brought in Kim P. Kim P went in the media and made Ron look Like shit. Ron let her say so much shit before he did one day get a lawyer. she was saying he beat Haleigh bloody and threw junior down the stairs. Then he goes and gets a lawyer and Cobra is saying Ron ran out and got a lawyer? No, Ron got a Lawyer because Crystal had one and Kim P was all over the news putting the focus on custody and abuse and off of missing Haleigh.

I am going to be saying so when I hear any cobra tales. Because now he has included crystal in his liar story.

Kim P has paid for some shit so Crystal owed her money. The money came out of Haleighbug to pay her back for Crystal bills she had helped with. It was give to Cobra to give to Kim. Then Nay and Amber need to be bailed out. Cobra talk to Kim and Kim say use the money to bail out girls. Me thinks because she want amber in rehab so she look good witness to take Junior to live w crystal. Cobra use this money for bail. no problem crystal do nothing wrong. All she do is pay back Kim P. Cobra here some person say that money give from Crystal to Cobra. Cobra go nuts. Say crystal hands not clean. Crystal not being true self in the media. Everyone say Cobra not say this, misquoted but Art say he talk to Cobra and Cobra did say this.

So what Cobra mean art? What you mean he want to be ambiguous? Mean because he really have no dirt on crystal and just had a piss fit?

---------------------------

Now, notice how he/she jumps back and forth on sides.. pro and con against crystal??
yes I do and also the 8th grade education level comes and goes as well...I have my suspicions as to who this person belongs to and I don't blame the families for following on the forums, I just wonder as to why they try to portray themselves so back woods


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 20, 2009, 08:38:20 PM
mlee thank you for correcting my error in post #1567 from the last cage.....apologies to all of the monkeys....I can't figure out what went wrong I got that from mapquest , posted the directions and the link....perhaps it was an old listing and Mema has since moved her restraunt ? Afterall a town that small and food that good maybe she needed a bigger place? Or maybe just a mapquest error? Who knows anyway thank you for correcting that for me , this case is confusing enough with out incorrect information.... ::MonkeyConfused::

It's okay sweety,  our lady in Satsuma lives right at hand, and she is a guest.. so she sends me emails with info on Satsuma..  I wouldn't have known either.  I've been to Florida once,  we vacationed at St. Pete's beach about 5 years ago.. great vacation and hated to leave Gulf.. But, had I looked it up, would have been the same for me.. you didn't do anything wrong..

Thank you Melee....I feel better now....all of the monkeys are so kind to us newcomers....I love this cage! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 08:38:55 PM
snipped from mlee's post............
 
I am going to highlight a few words in RED.  Read them very slowly....WHO IS SPEAKING IN THE PRESENT TENSE?????

I think this one begins with great detail.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
I do not think LE can rule anyone out Art. If they do then the other people  will wonder why am I not ruled out. The real person that did this may get real careful. You saying LE has ruled Crystal out? Why did they say they have not ruled anyone out? Who else you think LE has ruled out?

The rest of the paragraph sounds to me...as if...WHOEVER ..I..  IS....is trying to find out about information pertaining to...process of elimination.  In other words.....AM I RULED OUT?????



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 08:39:37 PM
Thanks grama.. We don't know if the trail ended for Haleigh @ the r/r tracks or down by the water .. Now I wonder if a boat picked her up and the chime that was in question could of came from a boat.. ::MonkeyTongue::


Prayers for Haleigh...

Excellent thought Jersey.  Someone could have been down there with a cellphone at the same time, and that is what the person heard.
I remember reading something at WS a while back on the chime noise that LE thought could perhaps be a doorbell. I am most likely wrong, but wasn't it found out that the noise that they were looking for was found to have come from the background noise from the house of a poster who had video captured one of the news release/pressers on their television? Apparently this video was shared on you tube and didn't this video cause the LE to search?
I could be so very very wrong but that is what my understanding was.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 20, 2009, 08:44:18 PM
oh I dont know i am not a member of WS... i read some where awhile back they went to hubbard's home regarding a chime?? ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 20, 2009, 08:46:27 PM
Thanks grama.. We don't know if the trail ended for Haleigh @ the r/r tracks or down by the water .. Now I wonder if a boat picked her up and the chime that was in question could of came from a boat.. ::MonkeyTongue::


Prayers for Haleigh...

Excellent thought Jersey.  Someone could have been down there with a cellphone at the same time, and that is what the person heard.
I remember reading something at WS a while back on the chime noise that LE thought could perhaps be a doorbell. I am most likely wrong, but wasn't it found out that the noise that they were looking for was found to have come from the background noise from the house of a poster who had video captured one of the news release/pressers on their television? Apparently this video was shared on you tube and didn't this video cause the LE to search?
I could be so very very wrong but that is what my understanding was.


sometimes when you get a text message the cell phone will chime.....also some car doors make a dinging sound if the keys are still in the ignition?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 08:46:51 PM
I should add that I have been suspicious of that same poster for quite some time myself over things that were said and mannerism ect... but due to the flip flopping I couldn't quite make anything out of any of it. It could possibly just be an innocent poster questioning the validity of what is going on but yeah the posters notable grammatical styles and changes have me scratching my head.
personally I think it is someone connected to Crystal but tries to keep that under their hat and I think they are just following along to see if they read anything that gives a clue as to what happened, worried sick and trying to find anything out, I think the flip flopping goes to not wanting to be attacked on AH's site since posters there have been known to get mean. You can tell some things they know are fact, not just from reading reliable sources but through a close connection to what LE tells the family and the events that have taken place since Haleigh has gone missing, imo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 20, 2009, 08:48:34 PM
oh I dont know i am not a member of WS... i read some where awhile back they went to hubbard's home regarding a chime?? ::MonkeyTongue::

Yes they did, I came across the video last night, I didn't bookmark it, I'll see if I can find it. It wasn't much they just talked to him and he said LE was looking for a doorbell that sounded like a grandfather clock.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 08:48:57 PM
snipped from mlee's post............
 
I am going to highlight a few words in RED.  Read them very slowly....WHO IS SPEAKING IN THE PRESENT TENSE?????

I think this one begins with great detail.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
I do not think LE can rule anyone out Art. If they do then the other people  will wonder why am I not ruled out. The real person that did this may get real careful. You saying LE has ruled Crystal out? Why did they say they have not ruled anyone out? Who else you think LE has ruled out?

The rest of the paragraph sounds to me...as if...WHOEVER ..I..  IS....is trying to find out about information pertaining to...process of elimination.  In other words.....AM I RULED OUT?????


It could be more grammatical errors though.
(Below I have edited the sentence to show the possibility of error.)

If they do then the other people will wonder,  "Why am I not ruled out?"


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 20, 2009, 08:51:53 PM
oh I dont know i am not a member of WS... i read some where awhile back they went to hubbard's home regarding a chime?? ::MonkeyTongue::

Yes they did, I came across the video last night, I didn't bookmark it, I'll see if I can find it. It wasn't much they just talked to him and he said LE was looking for a doorbell that sounded like a grandfather clock.

Can you believe I actually remembered what site I saw this on? ............ I can't  ::MonkeyLaugh:: here's the video:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2514985/new_haleigh_cummings_home_video_to_help_find_the_child/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 08:52:34 PM
snipped from mlee's post............
 
I am going to highlight a few words in RED.  Read them very slowly....WHO IS SPEAKING IN THE PRESENT TENSE?????

I think this one begins with great detail.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
I do not think LE can rule anyone out Art. If they do then the other people  will wonder why am I not ruled out. The real person that did this may get real careful. You saying LE has ruled Crystal out? Why did they say they have not ruled anyone out? Who else you think LE has ruled out?

The rest of the paragraph sounds to me...as if...WHOEVER ..I..  IS....is trying to find out about information pertaining to...process of elimination.  In other words.....AM I RULED OUT?????


It could be more grammatical errors though.
(Below I have edited the sentence to show the possibility of error.)

If they do then the other people will wonder,  "Why am I not ruled out?"

Whoever it is....is definitely connected and a possible suspect, right???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: jaggard19 on May 20, 2009, 08:52:52 PM
Light a candle for Haleigh:

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Halei




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 20, 2009, 08:56:03 PM
snipped from mlee's post............
 
I am going to highlight a few words in RED.  Read them very slowly....WHO IS SPEAKING IN THE PRESENT TENSE?????

I think this one begins with great detail.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
I do not think LE can rule anyone out Art. If they do then the other people  will wonder why am I not ruled out. The real person that did this may get real careful. You saying LE has ruled Crystal out? Why did they say they have not ruled anyone out? Who else you think LE has ruled out?

The rest of the paragraph sounds to me...as if...WHOEVER ..I..  IS....is trying to find out about information pertaining to...process of elimination.  In other words.....AM I RULED OUT?????


It could be more grammatical errors though.
(Below I have edited the sentence to show the possibility of error.)

If they do then the other people will wonder,  "Why am I not ruled out?"

Whoever it is....is definitely connected and a possible suspect, right???

Could be ..... or maybe it's just somebody who thinks they know something, hard to tell who is on the other side of the computer.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 08:57:25 PM
oh I dont know i am not a member of WS... i read some where awhile back they went to hubbard's home regarding a chime?? ::MonkeyTongue::
I'm not a member there either. I have aol so they won't allow me to join. It makes no sense to me but ok. About that chime noise though I remember reading something at WS website and they were discussing the sound and apparently the noise was coming from one of the posters videe that was shared on you tube? If that is true many many people watch you tube videos and it is possible that LE saw it and though it best to rule out the possibility that the chime came from the original recording?
I am clueless on this but that is what I read in the thread there at WS back then.
(Hey I had to do something with my time while I was waiting for Monkey confirmation LOL!)
I do read at a few other sites though WS is definately not one of my favorites.
THIS ONE is  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 20, 2009, 08:59:29 PM
Thanks grama.. We don't know if the trail ended for Haleigh @ the r/r tracks or down by the water .. Now I wonder if a boat picked her up and the chime that was in question could of came from a boat.. ::MonkeyTongue::


Prayers for Haleigh...

Excellent thought Jersey.  Someone could have been down there with a cellphone at the same time, and that is what the person heard.
I remember reading something at WS a while back on the chime noise that LE thought could perhaps be a doorbell. I am most likely wrong, but wasn't it found out that the noise that they were looking for was found to have come from the background noise from the house of a poster who had video captured one of the news release/pressers on their television? Apparently this video was shared on you tube and didn't this video cause the LE to search?
I could be so very very wrong but that is what my understanding was.

Yes, it was Patty G's.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 09:01:20 PM
snipped from mlee's post............
 
I am going to highlight a few words in RED.  Read them very slowly....WHO IS SPEAKING IN THE PRESENT TENSE?????

I think this one begins with great detail.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
I do not think LE can rule anyone out Art. If they do then the other people  will wonder why am I not ruled out. The real person that did this may get real careful. You saying LE has ruled Crystal out? Why did they say they have not ruled anyone out? Who else you think LE has ruled out?

The rest of the paragraph sounds to me...as if...WHOEVER ..I..  IS....is trying to find out about information pertaining to...process of elimination.  In other words.....AM I RULED OUT?????


It could be more grammatical errors though.
(Below I have edited the sentence to show the possibility of error.)

If they do then the other people will wonder,  "Why am I not ruled out?"

Whoever it is....is definitely connected and a possible suspect, right???

Could be ..... or maybe it's just somebody who thinks they know something, hard to tell who is on the other side of the computer.
I agree. I do read what other posters say though and I admit I do try to decipher intentions...especially after the annafl postings.  ::MonkeyEek::
...just sayin.  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 09:02:39 PM
Thanks grama.. We don't know if the trail ended for Haleigh @ the r/r tracks or down by the water .. Now I wonder if a boat picked her up and the chime that was in question could of came from a boat.. ::MonkeyTongue::


Prayers for Haleigh...

Excellent thought Jersey.  Someone could have been down there with a cellphone at the same time, and that is what the person heard.
I remember reading something at WS a while back on the chime noise that LE thought could perhaps be a doorbell. I am most likely wrong, but wasn't it found out that the noise that they were looking for was found to have come from the background noise from the house of a poster who had video captured one of the news release/pressers on their television? Apparently this video was shared on you tube and didn't this video cause the LE to search?
I could be so very very wrong but that is what my understanding was.

Yes, it was Patty G's.

Thank you No Rose. Am I right about the suspicious noise and that is the nosie they were trying to rule out?
I was thinking yes but I'm not 100% sure.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 20, 2009, 09:05:58 PM
Thanks grama.. We don't know if the trail ended for Haleigh @ the r/r tracks or down by the water .. Now I wonder if a boat picked her up and the chime that was in question could of came from a boat.. ::MonkeyTongue::


Prayers for Haleigh...

Excellent thought Jersey.  Someone could have been down there with a cellphone at the same time, and that is what the person heard.
I remember reading something at WS a while back on the chime noise that LE thought could perhaps be a doorbell. I am most likely wrong, but wasn't it found out that the noise that they were looking for was found to have come from the background noise from the house of a poster who had video captured one of the news release/pressers on their television? Apparently this video was shared on you tube and didn't this video cause the LE to search?
I could be so very very wrong but that is what my understanding was.

Yes, it was Patty G's.

Yep that's what I read too. I just wonder how Patty G's doorbell led them to Marty Hubbard.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 20, 2009, 09:06:33 PM
oh I dont know i am not a member of WS... i read some where awhile back they went to hubbard's home regarding a chime?? ::MonkeyTongue::

Yes they did, I came across the video last night, I didn't bookmark it, I'll see if I can find it. It wasn't much they just talked to him and he said LE was looking for a doorbell that sounded like a grandfather clock.

Can you believe I actually remembered what site I saw this on? ............ I can't  ::MonkeyLaugh:: here's the video:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2514985/new_haleigh_cummings_home_video_to_help_find_the_child/

Thats its maven... Thanks ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 20, 2009, 09:07:35 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/03/doorbell-chime-investigated-in-haleigh-case/

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — A tip led investigators on Monday to a mobile home located down the road from where missing 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings was last seen.

The homeowner there said detectives questioned him about a doorbell, WJXT-TV reported.

“It was just another tip they’re following up on, which is good. They have to follow up on every tip. The only thing everybody cares about is this child that’s missing, so it’s not any inconvenience to me or my family. They’re more than welcome to come any time they need to. A tip is a tip,” said neighbor Marty Hubbard.

He said the investigators were looking specifically for a doorbell that chimed like a grandfather clock, and that some tip or lead led them to his house. Hubbard said he doesn’t have a doorbell.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 20, 2009, 09:08:06 PM
I agree. I do read what other posters say though and I admit I do try to decipher intentions...especially after the annafl postings.  ::MonkeyEek::
...just sayin.  ::MonkeyDevil::

I do too. I read what is said and kinda file it away. and Annafl  ::MonkeyEek:: still don't know what to make of that mess.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 09:08:22 PM
I think this one begins with great detail.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
I do not think LE can rule anyone out Art. If they do then the other people will wonder why am I not ruled out. The real person that did this may get real careful. You saying LE has ruled Crystal out? Why did they say they have not ruled anyone out? Who else you think LE has ruled out?

I still say that Cobra brought in Kim P. Kim P went in the media and made Ron look Like shit. Ron let her say so much shit before he did one day get a lawyer. she was saying he beat Haleigh bloody and threw junior down the stairs. Then he goes and gets a lawyer and Cobra is saying Ron ran out and got a lawyer? No, Ron got a Lawyer because Crystal had one and Kim P was all over the news putting the focus on custody and abuse and off of missing Haleigh.

I am going to be saying so when I hear any cobra tales. Because now he has included crystal in his liar story.

Kim P has paid for some shit so Crystal owed her money. The money came out of Haleighbug to pay her back for Crystal bills she had helped with. It was give to Cobra to give to Kim. Then Nay and Amber need to be bailed out. Cobra talk to Kim and Kim say use the money to bail out girls. Me thinks because she want amber in rehab so she look good witness to take Junior to live w crystal. Cobra use this money for bail. no problem crystal do nothing wrong. All she do is pay back Kim P. Cobra here some person say that money give from Crystal to Cobra. Cobra go nuts. Say crystal hands not clean. Crystal not being true self in the media. Everyone say Cobra not say this, misquoted but Art say he talk to Cobra and Cobra did say this.

So what Cobra mean art? What you mean he want to be ambiguous? Mean because he really have no dirt on crystal and just had a piss fit?

---------------------------

Now, notice how he/she jumps back and forth on sides.. pro and con against crystal??

I am getting confused here. Who do you believe that this Rainey person is exactly and if it is someone connected then what is in it for them to be posting these things on AH's website?  ::MonkeyConfused::

I don't know.. but who ever that person is, they know more that what the average person is aware of.. They know more details. There have been people working this thread since day one, and spent so much time researching for details. We have HH who goes down to Satsuma and visits with Kim and Crystal.. And in all that time, and all that work.. who ever this person is knows details.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 09:13:10 PM
snipped from mlee's post............
 
I am going to highlight a few words in RED.  Read them very slowly....WHO IS SPEAKING IN THE PRESENT TENSE?????

I think this one begins with great detail.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
I do not think LE can rule anyone out Art. If they do then the other people  will wonder why am I not ruled out. The real person that did this may get real careful. You saying LE has ruled Crystal out? Why did they say they have not ruled anyone out? Who else you think LE has ruled out?

The rest of the paragraph sounds to me...as if...WHOEVER ..I..  IS....is trying to find out about information pertaining to...process of elimination.  In other words.....AM I RULED OUT?????


It could be more grammatical errors though.
(Below I have edited the sentence to show the possibility of error.)

If they do then the other people will wonder,  "Why am I not ruled out?"

Whoever it is....is definitely connected and a possible suspect, right???

Could be ..... or maybe it's just somebody who thinks they know something, hard to tell who is on the other side of the computer.

They quote the arguement pretty well, and also he talks to Art like they know each other.  Who it is, we could only guess at.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 20, 2009, 09:13:14 PM
I made another picture, I kinda got into it after the first one, so here it is:

(http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv267/Maven2379/haleighimg2-1.jpg)



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 09:14:09 PM
I think this one begins with great detail.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
I do not think LE can rule anyone out Art. If they do then the other people will wonder why am I not ruled out. The real person that did this may get real careful. You saying LE has ruled Crystal out? Why did they say they have not ruled anyone out? Who else you think LE has ruled out?

I still say that Cobra brought in Kim P. Kim P went in the media and made Ron look Like shit. Ron let her say so much shit before he did one day get a lawyer. she was saying he beat Haleigh bloody and threw junior down the stairs. Then he goes and gets a lawyer and Cobra is saying Ron ran out and got a lawyer? No, Ron got a Lawyer because Crystal had one and Kim P was all over the news putting the focus on custody and abuse and off of missing Haleigh.

I am going to be saying so when I hear any cobra tales. Because now he has included crystal in his liar story.

Kim P has paid for some shit so Crystal owed her money. The money came out of Haleighbug to pay her back for Crystal bills she had helped with. It was give to Cobra to give to Kim. Then Nay and Amber need to be bailed out. Cobra talk to Kim and Kim say use the money to bail out girls. Me thinks because she want amber in rehab so she look good witness to take Junior to live w crystal. Cobra use this money for bail. no problem crystal do nothing wrong. All she do is pay back Kim P. Cobra here some person say that money give from Crystal to Cobra. Cobra go nuts. Say crystal hands not clean. Crystal not being true self in the media. Everyone say Cobra not say this, misquoted but Art say he talk to Cobra and Cobra did say this.

So what Cobra mean art? What you mean he want to be ambiguous? Mean because he really have no dirt on crystal and just had a piss fit?

---------------------------

Now, notice how he/she jumps back and forth on sides.. pro and con against crystal??

I am getting confused here. Who do you believe that this Rainey person is exactly and if it is someone connected then what is in it for them to be posting these things on AH's website?  ::MonkeyConfused::

I don't know.. but who ever that person is, they know more that what the average person is aware of.. They know more details. There have been people working this thread since day one, and spent so much time researching for details. We have HH who goes down to Satsuma and visits with Kim and Crystal.. And in all that time, and all that work.. who ever this person is knows details.
I agree Mlee whoever that is seems to have insider information at times. It could be someone close enough that has genuine concern for the case with no alliances in the kook pot though too maybe?
(My appologies but as of today with Simon's blog posts the whole thing has come to kookie status for me.)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 09:15:07 PM
I made another picture, I kinda got into it after the first one, so here it is:

(http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv267/Maven2379/haleighimg2-1.jpg)


~BEAUTIFUL~ Thank you Maven  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 09:18:41 PM
I made another picture, I kinda got into it after the first one, so here it is:

(http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv267/Maven2379/haleighimg2-1.jpg)



Looks great Maven..   You have the hang of it..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 20, 2009, 09:20:05 PM
Thank-you Maven  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 09:32:17 PM
I think this one begins with great detail.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
I do not think LE can rule anyone out Art. If they do then the other people will wonder why am I not ruled out. The real person that did this may get real careful. You saying LE has ruled Crystal out? Why did they say they have not ruled anyone out? Who else you think LE has ruled out?

I still say that Cobra brought in Kim P. Kim P went in the media and made Ron look Like shit. Ron let her say so much shit before he did one day get a lawyer. she was saying he beat Haleigh bloody and threw junior down the stairs. Then he goes and gets a lawyer and Cobra is saying Ron ran out and got a lawyer? No, Ron got a Lawyer because Crystal had one and Kim P was all over the news putting the focus on custody and abuse and off of missing Haleigh.

I am going to be saying so when I hear any cobra tales. Because now he has included crystal in his liar story.

Kim P has paid for some shit so Crystal owed her money. The money came out of Haleighbug to pay her back for Crystal bills she had helped with. It was give to Cobra to give to Kim. Then Nay and Amber need to be bailed out. Cobra talk to Kim and Kim say use the money to bail out girls. Me thinks because she want amber in rehab so she look good witness to take Junior to live w crystal. Cobra use this money for bail. no problem crystal do nothing wrong. All she do is pay back Kim P. Cobra here some person say that money give from Crystal to Cobra. Cobra go nuts. Say crystal hands not clean. Crystal not being true self in the media. Everyone say Cobra not say this, misquoted but Art say he talk to Cobra and Cobra did say this.

So what Cobra mean art? What you mean he want to be ambiguous? Mean because he really have no dirt on crystal and just had a piss fit?

---------------------------

Now, notice how he/she jumps back and forth on sides.. pro and con against crystal??

I am getting confused here. Who do you believe that this Rainey person is exactly and if it is someone connected then what is in it for them to be posting these things on AH's website?  ::MonkeyConfused::

I don't know.. but who ever that person is, they know more that what the average person is aware of.. They know more details. There have been people working this thread since day one, and spent so much time researching for details. We have HH who goes down to Satsuma and visits with Kim and Crystal.. And in all that time, and all that work.. who ever this person is knows details.
I agree Mlee whoever that is seems to have insider information at times. It could be someone close enough that has genuine concern for the case with no alliances in the kook pot though too maybe?
(My appologies but as of today with Simon's blog posts the whole thing has come to kookie status for me.)


I know what your saying Patricia..  When we listened to the Blog radio the other day,  remember how Cobra pulled a little gag order on the guys as they were talking..  hinting, to stop talking.  These guys know something.. And they have been under a gag to keep certain details quiet.  They wanted to start releasing info, but could not be quoted directly from what they said.. So they put it in a puzzle, and handed it to the public to figure out for themselves.  You know they have been as frustrated as we are with the little bits and pieces that trickle out. And, they have been pretty good about letting us know whats out there.  They did that today, but indirectly.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 20, 2009, 09:32:39 PM
Beautiful picture of our Haleigh.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mymonkey on May 20, 2009, 09:34:37 PM
I made another picture, I kinda got into it after the first one, so here it is:

(http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv267/Maven2379/haleighimg2-1.jpg)


I think this has got to be my very favorite pic of Haleigh so far, she looks so happy and care free like a five year should be...great work.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 20, 2009, 09:35:29 PM
Just Thinking Out Loud... I tend to do alot... .I wonder when Ron and Fibsty going to move out of GGranny's home... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 09:40:01 PM
I agree. I do read what other posters say though and I admit I do try to decipher intentions...especially after the annafl postings.  ::MonkeyEek::
...just sayin.  ::MonkeyDevil::

I do too. I read what is said and kinda file it away. and Annafl  ::MonkeyEek:: still don't know what to make of that mess.

OK, Monkeys put your thinkin' caps on.  Speaking of AnnaFL...I remember her saying that she was a relative or some type of connection...to the Sheffields/Griffis Clan.  Now, also the fact that it was mentioned that Ron did some work for her..like the landscaping or tree stuff.

But then I thught she lived in Gainesville, and a website was pulled up for her.  But now here we have Katrina Belcher who seems to fit that description of AnnaFL.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 20, 2009, 09:41:28 PM
snipped from mlee's post............
 
I am going to highlight a few words in RED.  Read them very slowly....WHO IS SPEAKING IN THE PRESENT TENSE?????

I think this one begins with great detail.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
I do not think LE can rule anyone out Art. If they do then the other people  will wonder why am I not ruled out. The real person that did this may get real careful. You saying LE has ruled Crystal out? Why did they say they have not ruled anyone out? Who else you think LE has ruled out?

The rest of the paragraph sounds to me...as if...WHOEVER ..I..  IS....is trying to find out about information pertaining to...process of elimination.  In other words.....AM I RULED OUT?????


It could be more grammatical errors though.
(Below I have edited the sentence to show the possibility of error.)

If they do then the other people will wonder,  "Why am I not ruled out?"

Whoever it is....is definitely connected and a possible suspect, right???

Could be ..... or maybe it's just somebody who thinks they know something, hard to tell who is on the other side of the computer.

It could be just misting, or it could be a down pour of rain.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 09:43:09 PM
I made another picture, I kinda got into it after the first one, so here it is:

(http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv267/Maven2379/haleighimg2-1.jpg)



Nice again, Maven. A suggestion to you.  I remember that Brandi was not putting her name on, and these pics were being copied to other sites...which was not setting toooo good.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 09:43:20 PM
awesome pic Maven!!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mymonkey on May 20, 2009, 09:44:09 PM
Just Thinking Out Loud... I tend to do alot... .I wonder when Ron and Fibsty going to move out of GGranny's home... ::MonkeyTongue::
Free rent, Free food, Free Babysitter....three "F" =I doubt it


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 09:47:00 PM
snipped from mlee's post............
 
I am going to highlight a few words in RED.  Read them very slowly....WHO IS SPEAKING IN THE PRESENT TENSE?????

I think this one begins with great detail.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
I do not think LE can rule anyone out Art. If they do then the other people  will wonder why am I not ruled out. The real person that did this may get real careful. You saying LE has ruled Crystal out? Why did they say they have not ruled anyone out? Who else you think LE has ruled out?

The rest of the paragraph sounds to me...as if...WHOEVER ..I..  IS....is trying to find out about information pertaining to...process of elimination.  In other words.....AM I RULED OUT?????


It could be more grammatical errors though.
(Below I have edited the sentence to show the possibility of error.)

If they do then the other people will wonder,  "Why am I not ruled out?"

Whoever it is....is definitely connected and a possible suspect, right???

Could be ..... or maybe it's just somebody who thinks they know something, hard to tell who is on the other side of the computer.

It could be just misting, or it could be a down pour of rain.  ::MonkeyEek::
yeah Heart, it could be, I thought that at one time but have dismissed it, seems like a higher education level than she possesses


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 09:48:03 PM
snipped from mlee's post............
 
I am going to highlight a few words in RED.  Read them very slowly....WHO IS SPEAKING IN THE PRESENT TENSE?????

I think this one begins with great detail.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
I do not think LE can rule anyone out Art. If they do then the other people  will wonder why am I not ruled out. The real person that did this may get real careful. You saying LE has ruled Crystal out? Why did they say they have not ruled anyone out? Who else you think LE has ruled out?

The rest of the paragraph sounds to me...as if...WHOEVER ..I..  IS....is trying to find out about information pertaining to...process of elimination.  In other words.....AM I RULED OUT?????


It could be more grammatical errors though.
(Below I have edited the sentence to show the possibility of error.)

If they do then the other people will wonder,  "Why am I not ruled out?"

Whoever it is....is definitely connected and a possible suspect, right???

Could be ..... or maybe it's just somebody who thinks they know something, hard to tell who is on the other side of the computer.

It could be just misting, or it could be a down pour of rain.  ::MonkeyEek::

Then next comes the thunder and following with the lightening and the big bang.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 09:54:48 PM
Just Thinking Out Loud... I tend to do alot... .I wonder when Ron and Fibsty going to move out of GGranny's home... ::MonkeyTongue::
Free rent, Free food, Free Babysitter....three "F" =I doubt it

We mustn't forget the ...get out of jail card...when you pass GO!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 20, 2009, 09:57:04 PM
Thanks again to all monkeys!

Grama thank you for the suggestion, I do remember Brandi having problems with people copying her stuff, I will have to remember that in the future.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 09:57:07 PM
Went and counted how man inmates are still behind bars over the past week.  40 inmates are still locked up.  Wow..that is a lot of samdamwitches for lunch.  Geeze at $3.00 a samdamwitch, one could make a good profit selling to the local jail.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 20, 2009, 09:57:37 PM
My OPINION on this rainy subject is that she is from the cummings side and is acting like she's defending crystal because she knows she's only making things look worse for crystal anyway.  Someone on Arts site said some mean things about Crystal cummings(rons sister)'s hair do and this rainy commented back bad to that poster so why would anyone from crystals s. side do that.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/14/the-bald-truth-on-cnn-jane-velez-mitchell/#comments

comments number 325 and 340

Just a thought :)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 20, 2009, 10:05:09 PM

OK, Monkeys put your thinkin' caps on.  Speaking of AnnaFL...I remember her saying that she was a relative or some type of connection...to the Sheffields/Griffis Clan.  Now, also the fact that it was mentioned that Ron did some work for her..like the landscaping or tree stuff.

But then I thught she lived in Gainesville, and a website was pulled up for her.  But now here we have Katrina Belcher who seems to fit that description of AnnaFL.

And belcher is kin to both side isn't she?  great thinking grama.  Now if we can look back and pick apart what all this AnnaFL has said and dig up as much as we can on belcher. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 10:07:31 PM
I agree. I do read what other posters say though and I admit I do try to decipher intentions...especially after the annafl postings.  ::MonkeyEek::
...just sayin.  ::MonkeyDevil::

I do too. I read what is said and kinda file it away. and Annafl  ::MonkeyEek:: still don't know what to make of that mess.

OK, Monkeys put your thinkin' caps on.  Speaking of AnnaFL...I remember her saying that she was a relative or some type of connection...to the Sheffields/Griffis Clan.  Now, also the fact that it was mentioned that Ron did some work for her..like the landscaping or tree stuff.

But then I thught she lived in Gainesville, and a website was pulled up for her.  But now here we have Katrina Belcher who seems to fit that description of AnnaFL.

Talk about hitting the nail on the head.. good Grama..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 10:09:29 PM

OK, Monkeys put your thinkin' caps on.  Speaking of AnnaFL...I remember her saying that she was a relative or some type of connection...to the Sheffields/Griffis Clan.  Now, also the fact that it was mentioned that Ron did some work for her..like the landscaping or tree stuff.

But then I thught she lived in Gainesville, and a website was pulled up for her.  But now here we have Katrina Belcher who seems to fit that description of AnnaFL.

And belcher is kin to both side isn't she?  great thinking grama.  Now if we can look back and pick apart what all this AnnaFL has said and dig up as much as we can on belcher. 

I can tell you one thing I learned.. She and Great Grandma Sykes.. sued Walmart, and both Katrina and Eric both filed against Great Grandma Sykes for protection orders.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 10:11:32 PM
I think this one begins with great detail.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
I do not think LE can rule anyone out Art. If they do then the other people will wonder why am I not ruled out. The real person that did this may get real careful. You saying LE has ruled Crystal out? Why did they say they have not ruled anyone out? Who else you think LE has ruled out?

I still say that Cobra brought in Kim P. Kim P went in the media and made Ron look Like shit. Ron let her say so much shit before he did one day get a lawyer. she was saying he beat Haleigh bloody and threw junior down the stairs. Then he goes and gets a lawyer and Cobra is saying Ron ran out and got a lawyer? No, Ron got a Lawyer because Crystal had one and Kim P was all over the news putting the focus on custody and abuse and off of missing Haleigh.

I am going to be saying so when I hear any cobra tales. Because now he has included crystal in his liar story.

Kim P has paid for some shit so Crystal owed her money. The money came out of Haleighbug to pay her back for Crystal bills she had helped with. It was give to Cobra to give to Kim. Then Nay and Amber need to be bailed out. Cobra talk to Kim and Kim say use the money to bail out girls. Me thinks because she want amber in rehab so she look good witness to take Junior to live w crystal. Cobra use this money for bail. no problem crystal do nothing wrong. All she do is pay back Kim P. Cobra here some person say that money give from Crystal to Cobra. Cobra go nuts. Say crystal hands not clean. Crystal not being true self in the media. Everyone say Cobra not say this, misquoted but Art say he talk to Cobra and Cobra did say this.

So what Cobra mean art? What you mean he want to be ambiguous? Mean because he really have no dirt on crystal and just had a piss fit?

---------------------------

Now, notice how he/she jumps back and forth on sides.. pro and con against crystal??

I am getting confused here. Who do you believe that this Rainey person is exactly and if it is someone connected then what is in it for them to be posting these things on AH's website?  ::MonkeyConfused::

I don't know.. but who ever that person is, they know more that what the average person is aware of.. They know more details. There have been people working this thread since day one, and spent so much time researching for details. We have HH who goes down to Satsuma and visits with Kim and Crystal.. And in all that time, and all that work.. who ever this person is knows details.
I agree Mlee whoever that is seems to have insider information at times. It could be someone close enough that has genuine concern for the case with no alliances in the kook pot though too maybe?
(My appologies but as of today with Simon's blog posts the whole thing has come to kookie status for me.)


I know what your saying Patricia..  When we listened to the Blog radio the other day,  remember how Cobra pulled a little gag order on the guys as they were talking..  hinting, to stop talking.  These guys know something.. And they have been under a gag to keep certain details quiet.  They wanted to start releasing info, but could not be quoted directly from what they said.. So they put it in a puzzle, and handed it to the public to figure out for themselves.  You know they have been as frustrated as we are with the little bits and pieces that trickle out. And, they have been pretty good about letting us know whats out there.  They did that today, but indirectly.

I get the same impression mlee. I am just completely frustrated with the silence at this point, which brings me back to something I posted yesterday about Misty being Haleigh and Jr's step PARENT and since she now OWNS that title she also OWES IT TO HALEIGH to speak up and do whatever necessary to bring HER step CHILD home!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 20, 2009, 10:11:41 PM
Just wanted to comment on what we were saying earlier about the poster ba...me from WS, I checked her posts, and she is from Ontario Canada.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 10:14:00 PM
I agree. I do read what other posters say though and I admit I do try to decipher intentions...especially after the annafl postings.  ::MonkeyEek::
...just sayin.  ::MonkeyDevil::

I do too. I read what is said and kinda file it away. and Annafl  ::MonkeyEek:: still don't know what to make of that mess.

OK, Monkeys put your thinkin' caps on.  Speaking of AnnaFL...I remember her saying that she was a relative or some type of connection...to the Sheffields/Griffis Clan.  Now, also the fact that it was mentioned that Ron did some work for her..like the landscaping or tree stuff.

But then I thught she lived in Gainesville, and a website was pulled up for her.  But now here we have Katrina Belcher who seems to fit that description of AnnaFL.
OK Grams and am I off in left field when I say that it may have been discovered that her girlfriend is a SO or RSO?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 20, 2009, 10:14:31 PM
Oh yeah I was looking up records and it seems that GGsykes (isn't her name annette?) and her husband (myles) were involved in some sort of Sykes realty co. and have tons of records in connections with that and for some reason myles gave her power of attorney.  Monkeys let me know if I have the wrong sykes, but I think they are the right ones.  Does anybody know anything about GGS's husband?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 20, 2009, 10:17:22 PM
I agree. I do read what other posters say though and I admit I do try to decipher intentions...especially after the annafl postings.  ::MonkeyEek::
...just sayin.  ::MonkeyDevil::

I do too. I read what is said and kinda file it away. and Annafl  ::MonkeyEek:: still don't know what to make of that mess.

OK, Monkeys put your thinkin' caps on.  Speaking of AnnaFL...I remember her saying that she was a relative or some type of connection...to the Sheffields/Griffis Clan.  Now, also the fact that it was mentioned that Ron did some work for her..like the landscaping or tree stuff.

But then I thught she lived in Gainesville, and a website was pulled up for her.  But now here we have Katrina Belcher who seems to fit that description of AnnaFL.
OK Grams and am I off in left field when I say that it may have been discovered that her girlfriend is a SO or RSO?

Could the rema or whoever she is that also witnessed RC and MC's wedding be her girlfriend?  Or did she make you think she has a girlfriend to throw you off who she really is?  I have heard that about her gf before somewhere.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 10:17:59 PM
My OPINION on this rainy subject is that she is from the cummings side and is acting like she's defending crystal because she knows she's only making things look worse for crystal anyway.  Someone on Arts site said some mean things about Crystal cummings(rons sister)'s hair do and this rainy commented back bad to that poster so why would anyone from crystals s. side do that.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/14/the-bald-truth-on-cnn-jane-velez-mitchell/#comments

comments number 325 and 340

Just a thought :)
Good eye JNGA. That was personal wasn't it? Everyone else let it fly right on by.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 10:18:41 PM
I agree. I do read what other posters say though and I admit I do try to decipher intentions...especially after the annafl postings.  ::MonkeyEek::
...just sayin.  ::MonkeyDevil::

I do too. I read what is said and kinda file it away. and Annafl  ::MonkeyEek:: still don't know what to make of that mess.

OK, Monkeys put your thinkin' caps on.  Speaking of AnnaFL...I remember her saying that she was a relative or some type of connection...to the Sheffields/Griffis Clan.  Now, also the fact that it was mentioned that Ron did some work for her..like the landscaping or tree stuff.

But then I thught she lived in Gainesville, and a website was pulled up for her.  But now here we have Katrina Belcher who seems to fit that description of AnnaFL.
do you think they are the same person?? I thought we had a pic of annafl on a horse next to RC during a ground search


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 10:20:01 PM

OK, Monkeys put your thinkin' caps on.  Speaking of AnnaFL...I remember her saying that she was a relative or some type of connection...to the Sheffields/Griffis Clan.  Now, also the fact that it was mentioned that Ron did some work for her..like the landscaping or tree stuff.

But then I thught she lived in Gainesville, and a website was pulled up for her.  But now here we have Katrina Belcher who seems to fit that description of AnnaFL.

And belcher is kin to both side isn't she?  great thinking grama.  Now if we can look back and pick apart what all this AnnaFL has said and dig up as much as we can on belcher. 

I can tell you one thing I learned.. She and Great Grandma Sykes.. sued Walmart, and both Katrina and Eric both filed against Great Grandma Sykes for protection orders.
Just curious but did GGMa and her file seperate law suits or are they the same incident or?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 10:29:02 PM

I know what your saying Patricia..  When we listened to the Blog radio the other day,  remember how Cobra pulled a little gag order on the guys as they were talking..  hinting, to stop talking.  These guys know something.. And they have been under a gag to keep certain details quiet.  They wanted to start releasing info, but could not be quoted directly from what they said.. So they put it in a puzzle, and handed it to the public to figure out for themselves.  You know they have been as frustrated as we are with the little bits and pieces that trickle out. And, they have been pretty good about letting us know whats out there.  They did that today, but indirectly.

I get the same impression mlee. I am just completely frustrated with the silence at this point, which brings me back to something I posted yesterday about Misty being Haleigh and Jr's step PARENT and since she now OWNS that title she also OWES IT TO HALEIGH to speak up and do whatever necessary to bring HER step CHILD home!


Hon, she doesn't have that much capacity or maturity.. It would never cross her mind.  I anticipate that Great Grandma takes care of Little Ron most of the time, so he is out of short elevator's hair. With of course the exception of her having to take him to the medical clinic.  That will never happen..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 10:29:55 PM

OK, Monkeys put your thinkin' caps on.  Speaking of AnnaFL...I remember her saying that she was a relative or some type of connection...to the Sheffields/Griffis Clan.  Now, also the fact that it was mentioned that Ron did some work for her..like the landscaping or tree stuff.

But then I thught she lived in Gainesville, and a website was pulled up for her.  But now here we have Katrina Belcher who seems to fit that description of AnnaFL.

And belcher is kin to both side isn't she?  great thinking grama.  Now if we can look back and pick apart what all this AnnaFL has said and dig up as much as we can on belcher. 

I can tell you one thing I learned.. She and Great Grandma Sykes.. sued Walmart, and both Katrina and Eric both filed against Great Grandma Sykes for protection orders.
Just curious but did GGMa and her file seperate law suits or are they the same incident or?
No, all in one.. doesn't explain what happened..  But both at once.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 10:30:00 PM
I agree. I do read what other posters say though and I admit I do try to decipher intentions...especially after the annafl postings.  ::MonkeyEek::
...just sayin.  ::MonkeyDevil::

I do too. I read what is said and kinda file it away. and Annafl  ::MonkeyEek:: still don't know what to make of that mess.

OK, Monkeys put your thinkin' caps on.  Speaking of AnnaFL...I remember her saying that she was a relative or some type of connection...to the Sheffields/Griffis Clan.  Now, also the fact that it was mentioned that Ron did some work for her..like the landscaping or tree stuff.

But then I thught she lived in Gainesville, and a website was pulled up for her.  But now here we have Katrina Belcher who seems to fit that description of AnnaFL.
OK Grams and am I off in left field when I say that it may have been discovered that her girlfriend is a SO or RSO?
What exactly was it that made people believe that it was the person with the website from Gainseville? Was there anything concrete tying AnnaFl to that person?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 10:31:05 PM
I agree. I do read what other posters say though and I admit I do try to decipher intentions...especially after the annafl postings.  ::MonkeyEek::
...just sayin.  ::MonkeyDevil::

I do too. I read what is said and kinda file it away. and Annafl  ::MonkeyEek:: still don't know what to make of that mess.

OK, Monkeys put your thinkin' caps on.  Speaking of AnnaFL...I remember her saying that she was a relative or some type of connection...to the Sheffields/Griffis Clan.  Now, also the fact that it was mentioned that Ron did some work for her..like the landscaping or tree stuff.

But then I thught she lived in Gainesville, and a website was pulled up for her.  But now here we have Katrina Belcher who seems to fit that description of AnnaFL.

I thought that was also, but they told me it was someone else, her name was listed under the article.
do you think they are the same person?? I thought we had a pic of annafl on a horse next to RC during a ground search


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 10:31:16 PM

OK, Monkeys put your thinkin' caps on.  Speaking of AnnaFL...I remember her saying that she was a relative or some type of connection...to the Sheffields/Griffis Clan.  Now, also the fact that it was mentioned that Ron did some work for her..like the landscaping or tree stuff.

But then I thught she lived in Gainesville, and a website was pulled up for her.  But now here we have Katrina Belcher who seems to fit that description of AnnaFL.

And belcher is kin to both side isn't she?  great thinking grama.  Now if we can look back and pick apart what all this AnnaFL has said and dig up as much as we can on belcher. 

I can tell you one thing I learned.. She and Great Grandma Sykes.. sued Walmart, and both Katrina and Eric both filed against Great Grandma Sykes for protection orders.
Just curious but did GGMa and her file seperate law suits or are they the same incident or?
No, all in one.. doesn't explain what happened..  But both at once.
I am curious about that lawsuit but since we can't know what it was about I'll just set that aside for now. Thank you.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 10:35:20 PM
OK wish me luck. I'm diving into the old monkey cages. I got monkey goggles on and I'm sure I'll need a safety gas mask but I'm going in. Anyone want to spot me?
Tag team? Alright I'm on a hunt for the old AnnaFl posts and such...say a prayer please.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 20, 2009, 10:35:57 PM
Oh yeah I was looking up records and it seems that GGsykes (isn't her name annette?) and her husband (myles) were involved in some sort of Sykes realty co. and have tons of records in connections with that and for some reason myles gave her power of attorney.  Monkeys let me know if I have the wrong sykes, but I think they are the right ones.  Does anybody know anything about GGS's husband?
They sold property to Katrina and eric belcher on 6/22/2001 about a year after K and E got married.  Isn't GGS supposed to be Katrina B.'s mom?  Why would you get a protection order on your mom?  Hmmmm


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 10:36:12 PM
The things you all make us newbies do... ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 20, 2009, 10:37:37 PM
OK wish me luck. I'm diving into the old monkey cages. I got monkey goggles on and I'm sure I'll need a safety gas mask but I'm going in. Anyone want to spot me?
Tag team? Alright I'm on a hunt for the old AnnaFl posts and such...say a prayer please.

Good luck  ::MonkeyLaugh::  Just pick a cage and put annaFL in the search box at the top.  When the results come up make a note of the time and day so they are easier to find.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 10:37:49 PM
OK wish me luck. I'm diving into the old monkey cages. I got monkey goggles on and I'm sure I'll need a safety gas mask but I'm going in. Anyone want to spot me?
Tag team? Alright I'm on a hunt for the old AnnaFl posts and such...say a prayer please.

There are also more current ones, she has current postings on Art Harris..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 20, 2009, 10:44:33 PM

I thought that was also, but they told me it was someone else, her name was listed under the article.
do you think they are the same person?? I thought we had a pic of annafl on a horse next to RC during a ground search

A while back I posted that photo or a link to it with them searching on horseback because someone on arts site said that the woman with horses that helped with the search knew what happened, but yes the name was posted on the article and it was not Katrina Belcher.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 10:45:43 PM
Well I might be doing something wrong. I'm not sure what but I can't access the older posts. Is it just me?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 20, 2009, 10:46:44 PM
The woman on horseback if I remember correctly shared a last name with the preacher.   But there was other women on horseback in those photos. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 10:46:51 PM
The things you all make us newbies do... ::MonkeyDevil::
I'll help what cage do you want me start on?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 20, 2009, 10:47:25 PM
Well I might be doing something wrong. I'm not sure what but I can't access the older posts. Is it just me?

They are listed under high profile archives


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 20, 2009, 10:47:39 PM

OK, Monkeys put your thinkin' caps on.  Speaking of AnnaFL...I remember her saying that she was a relative or some type of connection...to the Sheffields/Griffis Clan.  Now, also the fact that it was mentioned that Ron did some work for her..like the landscaping or tree stuff.

But then I thught she lived in Gainesville, and a website was pulled up for her.  But now here we have Katrina Belcher who seems to fit that description of AnnaFL.

And belcher is kin to both side isn't she?  great thinking grama.  Now if we can look back and pick apart what all this AnnaFL has said and dig up as much as we can on belcher. 

Belcher and more

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4988.1620


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 20, 2009, 10:48:18 PM
Heres a link

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=42.0


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 10:48:28 PM
Oh yeah I was looking up records and it seems that GGsykes (isn't her name annette?) and her husband (myles) were involved in some sort of Sykes realty co. and have tons of records in connections with that and for some reason myles gave her power of attorney.  Monkeys let me know if I have the wrong sykes, but I think they are the right ones.  Does anybody know anything about GGS's husband?
They sold property to Katrina and eric belcher on 6/22/2001 about a year after K and E got married.  Isn't GGS supposed to be Katrina B.'s mom?  Why would you get a protection order on your mom?  Hmmmm

I'll pull both the protection orders and the lawsuit.. All I can think of, this must be a hard family to live with.  I do believe that is her Mom.  I have tried to find Myles Sykes Obituary to prove he is her Dad, also found data on SQUIRES DONALD B49120 
SQUIRES ANITA J B49120, which should be Teresa neves Dad, but these files will not open up, there are 3 different files listing them, B49120, B49121, B49122.  I will post the cases.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 10:50:46 PM
Well I might be doing something wrong. I'm not sure what but I can't access the older posts. Is it just me?
I can't either what am I doing wrong?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 10:54:08 PM
I went to check at another site to see what was going on and someone I feel is a very level headed poster found and posted this link so I am bringing it here:
http://www.bloggernews.net/120963

(Thank you Panache)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 20, 2009, 10:54:39 PM
IM...hope little grand son is ok...thinking of you and your family..


Nite monkeys...
sad discouraging day with the news of Tori probably being murdered....having a hard time wrapping my brain around the cruelty of perps to little innocent children...
talk with you all tomorrow...
God Bless Haleigh and other missing children...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 10:54:49 PM
Well I might be doing something wrong. I'm not sure what but I can't access the older posts. Is it just me?
I can't either what am I doing wrong?
I wonder if there is only so many threads available at one time? Or?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 20, 2009, 10:55:03 PM
Quote from: JNGA on April 26, 2009, 11:53:46 PM
Quote from: mlee on April 26, 2009, 08:10:17 AM
Quote from: JNGA on April 26, 2009, 01:33:13 AM

Photo found here
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Haleigh%20Cummings/?start=200
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Haleigh%20Cummings/h005.jpg)


I found this photo again on st.augustine.com and here is what the caption reads
Connie Wright (L) and Ronald Cummings, the missing five year-olds father, return from searching wooded areas on horseback. Law enforcement and volunteers continued to search for five year-old Haleigh Ann-Marie Cummings Sunday February 15, 2009 in Satsuma, FL. (The Florida Times-Union, Bruce Lipsky)2009

www.staugustine.com/.../news_021609_006.shtml


NancyMz Says:
April 25th, 2009 at 8:12 am
Art,I don’t think it was a stranger abduction either. I think it’s someone who lives close by.I think that person now sits in the corner of the local bar figuring they have gotten away with. I think that that someone with knowledge of what happened helped in the search. Owns a search dog and whatnot. I think also that this person with knowledge of what happened owns a horse and is a woman. I think the person with knowledge knows who and what but they don’t know where .jmo


A comment on Art Harris's website
http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/24/haleigh-cummings-cnns-jane-velez-mitchell/#comments


Hmmmmmm 


Yes, your Hmmmmmmmm is so right, I do believe we have referred to that female in the past..  the horses are a key..  that is Annafl, isn't it Monkeys..  Guess she and ron know one another..


Read the purple writing   


Connie Wright is she Pastor Terry Wright (Ron's Pastor) wife or relative...

http://www.dunnscreekchurch.com/staff.htm


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 10:55:10 PM
Guys here are the records.. 
==============================
UCN: 542001DR000370FDXXXX
File Date: 2001-03-09 Disposition Date: 2001-03-20
File Type: INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION - FD10
Judge: A W NICHOLS III   

Plaintiffs
BELCHER ERIC  Defendants
SYKES ANNETTE 


Date Docket Description
2001-03-09 001.PETITION FOR INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION AGAINST 

2001-03-09 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE 

2001-03-09 002.AFFIDAVIT AND MOTION FOR WAIVER OF FEES FOR 

2001-03-09 PETITION FOR INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION 

2001-03-09 003.CLERK'S CERTIFICATE AS TO AFFIDAVIT AND MOTION 

2001-03-09 FOR WAIVER OF FEES 

2001-03-09 004.FAMILY LAW FINANCIAL AFFIDAVIT (SHORT FORM) 

2001-03-09 005.ORDER SETTING HEARING ON PETITION FOR INJUNCTION 

2001-03-09 FOR PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WITHOUT 

2001-03-09 ISSUANCE OF AN INTERIM TEMPORARY INJUNCTION 

2001-03-09 3/9/2001 EEH IN RE: HEARING SET FOR 3/26/2001 @ 

2001-03-09 1:30PM EEH 

2001-03-09 ORD RT 3/15/2001 SVD 3/13/2001 PUTNAM CO 

2001-03-19 006.MOTION TO MODIFY OR DISSOLVE TEMPORARY INJUNCTION - 

2001-03-19 >FILED BY PETITIONER - SENT TO EEH 

2001-03-20 007.ORDER OF DISMISSAL OF INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION 

2001-03-20 >AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE 3/20/2001 WAP IN RE: 

2001-03-20 >PETITIONER TO PAY FILING FEE IN 30 DAYS 

2001-03-20 >REC OR BK 850.0 PG 1445 FL# 408615 

2001-04-27 008.RECEIPT FOR PAYMENT OF FILING FEE BY PETITIONER 

2001-05-30 009.COPY OF $20.00 CHECK (# 023571) SENT TO PUTNAM CO 

2001-05-30 >SHERIFFS OFFICE 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 10:56:17 PM


UCN: 542002CA000584CAXXXX
File Date: 2002-12-11 Disposition Date: 2004-02-02
File Type: FORECLOSURE - CA16
Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM   

Plaintiffs
EQUICREDIT CORP OF AMERICA  Defendants
DOE JANE
DOE JOHN
SYKES ANNETTE
UNK SPOUSE OF ANNETTE SYKES 


Date Docket Description
2002-12-11 001.COMPLAINT FOR FORECLOSURE OF MORTGAGE 

2002-12-11 002.NOTICE OF LIS PENDENS REC OR BK 917 PG 1515-1516 

2002-12-18 > 12/19/02 

2002-12-18 003.SUMMONS - SHERIFF PUTNAM COUNTY - JANE DOE 

2002-12-18 SUMM RTD 12/31/02 UNEXECUTED NOT FOUND 

2002-12-18 004.SUMMONS - SHERIFF PUTNAM COUNTY - ANNETTE SYKES 

2002-12-18 SUMM RTD 12/31/02 SVD12/26/02 DUE 01/15/03 

2002-12-18 005.SUMMONS - SHERIFF PUTNAM COUNTY - UNKNOWN SPOUSE OF 

2002-12-18 >ANNETTE SYKES 

2002-12-18 SUMM RTD 12/31/02 UNEXECUTED NOT FOUND 

2002-12-18 006.SUMMONS - SHERIFF PUTNAM COUNTY - JOHN DOE 

2002-12-18 SUMM RTD 12/31/02 UNEXECUTED NOT FOUND 

2003-05-01 007.SUGGESTION OF BANKRUPTCY CHAPTER 7 FILED MIDDLE 

2003-05-01 >DISTRICT JACKSONVILLE 04-11-2003 CASE NO: 

2003-05-01 >03-03697-3P7 

2004-01-09 008.NOTICE OF FILING - COPY OF DISCHARGE OF DEBTOR 

2004-01-09 009.MOTION FOR DEFAULT 

2004-01-09 010.NON MILITARY AFFIDAVIT 

2004-01-09 011.PLAINTIFFS MOTION FOR SUMMARY FINAL JUDGMENT OF 

2004-01-09 .FORECLOSURE INCLUDING AWARD OF ATTORNEYS FEES 

2004-01-09 .COSTS 

2004-01-09 012.AFFIDAVIT OF INDEBTEDNESS 

2004-01-09 013.AFFIDAVIT OF COSTS 

2004-01-09 014.AFFIDAVIT OF PLAINTIFFS COUNSEL AS TO ATTORNEYS 

2004-01-09 .FEES 

2004-01-09 015.AFFIDAVIT OF REASONABLE ATTORNEYS FEES 

2004-01-09 016.CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE 

2004-01-09 017.NOTICE OF VOLUNTARY DISMISSAL OF COUNT III OF THE 

2004-01-09 .COMPLAINT RE ESTABLISHMENT OF LOST NOTE REC 01-14-04 

2004-01-09 018.NOTICE OF DROPPING PARTIES (UNKNOWN SPOUSE OF 

2004-01-09 .ANNETTE SYKES; JOHN DOE; JANE DOE) REC 01-14-04 

2004-01-09 019.NOTICE OF TELEPHONIC HEARING - 02-02-2004 @9:30 

2004-01-09 .EEH IN RE: MOTION FOR DEFAULT; MOTION FOR 

2004-01-09 .SUBSTITUTION OF PLAINTIFF; MOTION FOR SUMMARY 

2004-01-09 .FINAL JUDGMENT OF FORECLOSURE INCLUDING AWARD OF 

2004-01-09 .ATTORNEYS FEES AND COSTS 

2004-01-12 020.CLERKS CERTIFICATE 

2004-01-12 021.DEFAULT (ANNETTE SYKES) 01-12-2004 

2004-02-02 022.NOTICE OF FILING - ORIGINAL NOTE MORTGAGE AND 

2004-02-02 .ASSIGNMENT OF MORTGAGE FILED BEFORE THE COURT 

2004-02-02 023.MOTION FOR SUBSTITUTION OF PLAINTIFF 

2004-02-02 024.ORDER SUBSTITUTION PLAINTIFF 01-15-04 EEH IN RE: 

2004-02-02 .BANK OF NEW YORK SUBSTITUTED AS PLAINTIFF 

2004-02-02 025.SUMMARY FINAL JUDGMENT OF FORECLOSURE INCLUDING 

2004-02-02 .AWARD OF ATTORNEYS FEES AND COSTS 02-02-04 EEH 

2004-02-02 .IN RE: JUDGMENT AMOUNT $82,963.81 SALE SET 

2004-02-02 .03-03-02 @11:00 REC 02-05-04 

2004-02-04 026.NOTICE OF FORECLOSURE SALE - PALATKA DAILY NEWS 

2004-02-04 .02-10-03; 02-17-03 - SALE 03-03-2004 @11:00 

2004-03-03 027.PROOF OF PUBLICATION - NOTICE OF SALE 

2004-03-03 028.CERTIFICATE OF SALE - PLAINTIFF - $100.00 

2004-03-16 029.CERTIFICATE OF TITLE REC 03-17-04 

2004-03-16 030.CERTIFICATE OF DISBURSEMENTS - NO MONIES COLLECTED 

2004-03-16 .OR DISBURSED BY CLERK 

2004-07-12 031.MOTION TO AMEND SUMMARY JUDGMENT OF FORECLOSURE 

2004-07-12 .INCLUDING AWARD OF ATTORNEYS FEES AND COSTS 

2004-07-12 .NUNC PRO TUNC AND TO AMEND CERTIFICATE OF 

2004-07-12 .TITLE NUNC PRO TUNC 

2004-07-12 032.ORDER GRANTING MOTION TO AMEND SUMMARY 

2004-07-12 .JUDGMENT OF FORECLOSURE INCLUDING AWARD OF 

2004-07-12 .ATTORNEYS FEES AND COSTS NUNC PRO TUNC AND TO 

2004-07-12 .AMEND CERTIFICATE OF TITLE NUNC PRO TUNC 

2004-07-12 .07-09-2004 EEH 

2004-07-12 033.AMENDED SUMMARY FINAL JUDGMENT OF FORECLOSURE 

2004-07-12 .INCLUDING AWARD OF ATTORNEYS FEES AND COSTS 

2004-07-12 .07-09-2004 EEH 

2004-07-13 034.AMENDED CERTIFICATE OF TITLE - NUNC PRO 

2004-07-13 .TUNC 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 10:57:17 PM
---------------------------------------------
UCN: 542000CA000041CAXXXX
File Date: 2000-02-02 Disposition Date: 2002-03-27
File Type: OTHER NEGLIGENCE - CA22
Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM   

Plaintiffs
SYKES DOROTHY ANNETTE
SYKES KIRBY  Defendants
WAL-MART STORES, INC. 


Date Docket Description
2000-02-02 001.COMPLAINT FOR DAMAGES 

2000-02-07 002.SUMMONS - ATTY - WAL-MART STORES, INC. 

2000-02-07 SUMM RTD 02/22/00 SVD 02/15/00 DUE 03/06/00 

2000-02-22 003.NOTICE OF FILING / ORIGINAL RETURN OF SERVICE ON 

2000-02-22 >WAL MART STORES, INC. 

2000-03-03 004.NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION 05/10/00 @ 1:30 PM AND 

2000-03-03 >3:00PM - ON DOROTHY ANNETTE SYKES AND KIRBY SYKES 

2000-03-03 005.ANSWER OF WAL-MART STORES, INC. 

2000-03-03 006.FIRST REQUEST FOR PRODUCTION 

2000-03-03 007.NOTICE OF SERVICE OF DEFENDNAT'S FIRST INTERROGATORIES 

2000-03-03 007.TO PLAINTIFF 

2000-03-14 008.PLAINTIFF'S RESPONSE TO DEFENDANT'S AFFIRMATIVE 

2000-03-14 >DEFENSES 

2000-03-24 009.STIPULATION FOR SUBSTITUTION OF COUNSEL 

2000-03-24 010.ORDER FOR SUBSTITUTION OF COUNSEL / 3-24-2000 AWN 

2000-04-05 011.RESPONSE TO REQUEST TO PRODUCE 

2000-05-04 012.NOTICE OF COMPLIANCE 

2000-05-22 013.NOTICE OF PRODUCTION FROM NON-PARTY - COLUMBIA 

2000-05-22 >PUTNAM MEDICAL, COLUMBIA PUTNAM MEIDCAL - BILLS, J 

2000-05-22 >H GATEWOOD EMERGENCY SERVICES, PUTNAM COUNTY 

2000-05-22 >CHIROPRACTIC CENTER, PUTNAM RADIOLOGY ASSOCIATES, T 

2000-05-22 >R SEDGES, M.D., ALLSTATE INSURANCE AND BLUE CROSS 

2000-05-22 >BLUE SHIELD INSURANCE 

2000-06-28 014.REQUEST FOR COPIES 

2000-07-21 015.DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO COMPEL BETTER ANSWERS TO 

2000-07-21 >FIRST INTERROGATORIES 

2000-07-31 016.NOTICE OF SERVICE OF OFFER OF JUDGMENT OR SETTLEMENT 

2000-08-21 017.NOTICE OF TELEPHONIC HEARING: 9-12-2000 @ 11:00 AM 

2000-08-21 >IN RE: DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO COMPEL BETTER ANSWERS 

2000-08-21 >TO FIRST INTERROGATORIES 

2000-09-06 018.NOTICE TO PRODUCE 

2000-09-12 019.NOTICE OF FILING 

2000-09-15 020.ORDER / 9-15-2000 AWN 

2000-09-20 021.DEFENDANT'S RESPONSE TO PLAINTIFFS' REQUEST FOR 

2000-09-20 >COPIES 

2000-10-13 022.DEFENDANT'S RESPONSE TO PLAINTIFF'S FIRST REQUEST 

2000-10-13 >FOR PRODUCTION 

2000-11-17 023.PLAINTIFF'S MOTION TO COMPEL DISCOVERY AND FOR 

2000-11-17 >SANCTIONS 

2000-12-11 024.DEFENDANT'S SUPPLEMENTAL RESPONSE TO PLAINTIFF'S 

2000-12-11 >FIRST REQUEST FOR PRODUCTION 

2001-01-08 025.SECOND NOTICE OF PRODUCTION FROM NON PARTIES 

2001-01-17 026.REQUEST FOR COPIES 

2001-02-01 027.NOTICE FOR TRIAL - APPROXIMATELY 2 DAYS 

2001-02-19 028.NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITIONS: 3-15-2001 @ 10:00 AM 

2001-02-19 >/ JIM POUNDS 

2001-02-20 029.NOTICE OF HEARING 4-6-2001 @ 11:00 AM IN RE: 

2001-02-20 >PLAINTIFF'S MOTION TO COMPEL AND FOR SANCTIONS 

2001-03-26 030.SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM DEPOSITION - SHERIFF - JIM 

2001-03-26 >POUNDS 

2001-03-26 >SUBP RTD 3-26-2001 SVD UNEXECUTED 

2001-04-17 031.THIRD NOTICE OF PRODUCTION FROM NON-PARTIES 

2001-04-26 032.REQUEST FOR COPIES 

2001-08-09 033.ORDER SETTING JURY TRIAL AND DIRECTING PRE TRIAL 

2001-08-09 >PROCEDURE 08-07-2001 AWN IN RE: SET FOR TRIAL 

2001-08-09 >01-07-2002 @9:00 AWN 

2001-09-24 034.COPY OF NOTICE OF SERVICE OF DEFENDANTS SECOND 

2001-09-24 >INTERROGATORIES TO PLAINTIFF - ATTACHMENTS 

2001-10-19 035.PLAINTIFF'S EXPERT WITNESS LIST 

2001-10-22 036.FOURTH NOTICE OF PRODUCTION FROM NON PARTIES 

2001-10-22 037.DEFENDANT'S EXPERT WITNESS LIST 

2001-10-29 038.NOTICE OF FILING ORIGINAL SIGNATURE - ORIGINAL 

2001-10-29 >SIGNATURE ON PREVIOUSLY FILED NOTICE OF MEDIATION 

2001-11-02 039.NOTICE OF MEDIATION - MEDIATION SET 11-16-2001 

2001-11-02 >@1:30 BEFORE JEFFREY DOBSON MEDIATOR 

2001-11-05 040.REQUEST FOR PHYSICAL EXAMINATION 12-05-2001 @2:15 

2001-11-06 041.PLAINTIFF'S WITNESS LIST 

2001-11-07 042.DEFENDANT'S FACT WITNESS LIST 

2001-11-09 043.NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION DUCES TECUM 11-15-2001 

2001-11-09 >@10:00 IN RE: DEPOSITION OF RECORDS CUSTODIAN OF 

2001-11-09 >DR EFRAIN SALGADO 

2001-11-09 044.NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION DUCES TECUM 11-15-2001 

2001-11-09 >@10:00 IN RE: DEPOSITION RECORDS CUSTODIAN OF DR 

2001-11-09 >STEPHAN STANESCU 

2001-11-16 045.PLAINTIFF'S SUPPLEMENTAL WITNESS LIST 

2001-11-19 046.DEFENDANT WAL-MART STORES INC MOTION TO COMPEL 

2001-11-19 >RESPONSE TO SECOND INTERROGATORIES 

2001-11-21 047.PLAINTIFF'S NOTICE OF SERVICE OF INTERROGATORIES TO 

2001-11-21 >DEFENDANT WAL MART STORES INC 

2001-11-21 048.REQUEST FOR COPIES 

2001-11-21 049.PLAINTIFF'S NOTICE TO PRODUCE 

2001-11-21 050.DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO COMPEL BETTER ANSWERS TO 

2001-11-21 >SECOND INTERROGATORIES 

2001-11-21 051.NOTICE OF SERVICE OF OFFER OF JUDGMENT OR 

2001-11-21 >SETTLEMENT TO DOROTHY ANNETTE SYKES 

2001-11-21 052.NOTICE OF SERVICE OF OFFER OF JUDGMENT OR 

2001-11-21 >SETTLEMENT TO KIRBY SYKES 

2001-11-26 053.MEDIATION DISPOSITION REPORT 11-19-2001 JD MEDIATOR 

2001-11-26 >IN RE: PARTIES REACHED AN IMPASSE AS TO ALL ISSUES 

2001-11-28 054.PLAINTIFF'S MOTION TO QUASH SUBPOENAS 

2001-11-29 055.NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION DUCES TECUM 11-28-2001 

2001-11-29 >@10:00 IN RE: DEPOSITION OF RECORDS CUSTODIAN OF 

2001-11-29 >DR EFRAIN SALGADO 

2001-11-29 056.NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION DUCES TECUM 12-03-2001 

2001-11-29 >@11:30 IN RE: DEPOSITION OF MICHAEL PIETTE 

2001-11-29 057.NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION DUCES TECUM 12-03-2001 

2001-11-29 >@1:00 IN RE: DEPOSITION OF E W RASCO 

2001-11-29 058.DEFENDANT'S SUPPLEMENTAL EXPERT WITNESS LIST 

2001-11-30 059.MOTION TO CONTINUE TRIAL TERM - PLAINTIFFS 

2001-12-03 060.DEFENDANT'S SUPPLEMENTAL FACT WITNESS LIST 

2001-12-06 061.NOTICE OF TAKING TELEPHONE DEPOSITION DUCES TECUM 

2001-12-06 >12-19-2001 @2:00 IN R: DEPOSIITON OF GENERAL 

2001-12-06 >MANAGER OF FIRST CARE FLORIDA INC 

2001-12-06 062.DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO STRIKE PLAINTIFFS EXPERT 

2001-12-06 >WITNESS 

2001-12-06 063.NOTICE OF TAKING TELEPHONE DEPOSITION DUCES TECUM 

2001-12-06 >12-18-2001 @2:00 IN RE: DEPOSITION OF E W TASCO 

2001-12-10 064.DEFENDANT WAL MARTS MOTION FOR SANCTIONS 

2001-12-10 065.SECOND REQUEST FOR PHYSICAL EXAMINATION 

2001-12-11 066.AMENDED MOTION TO CONTINUE TRIAL TERM 

2001-12-11 067.NOTICE OF HEARING 12-12-2001 @9:00 AWN IN RE: 

2001-12-11 >PLAINTIFFS AMENDED MOTION TO CONTINUE 

2001-12-18 068.NOTICE OF COMPLIANCE WITH MOTION TO COMPEL 

2001-12-19 069.AMENDED NOTICE OF TAKING TELEPHONE DEPOSITION DUCES 

2001-12-19 >TECUM 12-18-2001 @11:45 IN RE: DEPOSITION OF E W 

2001-12-19 >RASCO 

2001-12-19 070.ORDER CONTINUING JURY TRIAL AND DIRECTING PRE TRIAL 

2001-12-19 >PROCEDURE 12-19-2001 AWN IN RE: TRIAL CONTINUED 

2001-12-19 >TO 03-04-2002 @9:00 

2001-12-20 071.SECOND AMENDED NOTICE OF TAKING TELEPHONE 

2001-12-20 >DEPOSITION DUCES TECUM OF E W RASCO 01-23-2002 

2001-12-20 >@10:30 

2001-12-21 072.THIRD REQUEST FOR PHYSICAL EXAMINATION 

2001-12-28 073.ORDER 12-28-2001 AWN IN RE: DEFENDANTS MOTION TO 

2001-12-28 >COMPEL BETTER ANSWERS TO SECOND INTERROGATOIRES 

2001-12-28 >GRANTED DEFENDANTS MOTION TO STRIKE EXPERT DR 

2001-12-28 >MICHAEL PIETTE MOOT COURT DEFERS RULING ON 

2001-12-28 >DEFENDANTS MOTION FOR SANCTIONS 

2002-01-14 074.NOTICE OF SERVICE OF DEFENDANTS ANSWERS TO 

2002-01-14 >PLAINTIFFS SECOND INTERROGATORIES 

2002-01-14 075.DEFENDANT'S RESPONSE TO PLAINTIFFS SECOND REQUEST 

2002-01-14 >FOR PRODUCTION 

2002-01-14 076.NOTICE OF SERVICE OF DEFENDANTS THIRD 

2002-01-14 >INTERROGATORIES TO PLAINTIFF 

2002-01-14 077.DEFENDANT WALMART STORES INC MOTION TO COMPEL 

2002-01-14 >PLAINTIFF DOROTHY SYKES TO APPEAR FOR DEPOSITION 

2002-01-14 078.DEFENDANTS MOTION TO SHORTEN TIME FOR PLAINTIFFS 

2002-01-14 >RESPONSE TO INTERROGATORY 

2002-01-17 079.NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION DUCES TECUM 02-14-2002 

2002-01-17 >@3:00 IN RE: DEPOSITION OF DR MELVIN GREER 

2002-01-17 080.NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION DUCES TECUM 02-20-2002 

2002-01-17 >@3:00 IN RE: DEPOSITION DR TOD NORTHRUP 

2002-01-22 081.DEFENDANT'S RESPONSE TO PLAINTIFFS REQUEST FOR 

2002-01-22 >COPIES 

2002-01-22 082.NOTICE OF TELEPHONIC HEARING 02-14-2002 @3:30 AWN 

2002-01-22 >IN RE: DEFENDANTS MOTION TO COMPEL PLAINTIFF TO 

2002-01-22 >APPEAR FOR DEPOSITION AND DEFENDANTS MOTION TO 

2002-01-22 >SHORTEN TIME FOR PLAINTIFFS RESPONSE TO 

2002-01-22 >INTERROGATORIES 

2002-01-25 083.SUGGESTION OF DEATH - KIRBY SYKES DIED 01-24-2002 

2002-01-28 084.NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITOIN DUCES TECUM 02-01-2002 

2002-01-28 >@10:15 IN RE: DEPOSITION OF RECORDS CUSTODIAN 

2002-01-28 >COLUMBIA PUTNAM COMMUNITY MEDICAL CENTER 

2002-01-28 085.NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION DUCES TECUM 02-01-2002 

2002-01-28 >@10:00 IN RE: DEPOSITION OF RECORDS CUSTODIAN 

2002-01-28 >RURAL HEALTH CARE INC 

2002-02-06 086.AMENDED NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION DUCES TECUM 

2002-02-06 >02-19-2002 @8:00 IN RE: DEPOSITION OF DR MELVIN 

2002-02-06 >GREER 

2002-02-07 087.SECOND REQUEST FOR PRODUCTION 

2002-02-07 088.DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO SHORTEN TIME FOR PLAINTIFFS 

2002-02-07 >RESPONSE TO DEFENDANTS SECOND REQUEST FOR PRODUCTION 

2002-02-07 089.AMENDED NOTICE OF TELEPHONIC HEARING 02-14-2002 

2002-02-07 >@3:30 AWN IN RE: DEFENDANTS MOTION TO COMPEL 

2002-02-07 >PLAINTIFF TO APPEAR FOR DEPOSITION; DEFENDANTS 

2002-02-07 >MOTION TO SHORTEN TIME FOR PLAINTIFFS RESPONSE TO 

2002-02-07 >INTERROGATORIES; DEFENDANTS MOTION TO SHORTEN TIME 

2002-02-07 >FOR PLAINTIFFS RESPONSE TO SECOND REQUEST FOR 

2002-02-07 >PRODUCTION 

2002-02-08 090.REQUEST FOR COPIES 

2002-02-08 091.NOTICE OF FILING RETURN OF SERVICE 

2002-02-08 092.SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED BY 

2002-02-08 >ATTORNEY TO MELVIN GREER MD - SVD JESSICA BROOKER 

2002-02-08 >SR SECRETARY 01-25-2002 

2002-02-08 093.NOTICE OF FILING RETURN OF SERVICE 

2002-02-08 094.SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED BY 

2002-02-08 >ATTORNEY TO TOD NORTHRUP MD SVD BECKY FERRIS 

2002-02-08 >01-23-02 

2002-02-11 095.THIRD AMENDED NOTICE OF TAKING TELEPHONE DEPOSITION 

2002-02-11 >DUCES TECUM OF E W RASCO 02-13-2002 @1:00 

2002-02-13 096.SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM FOR TRIAL ISSUED BY ATTORNEY 

2002-02-13 >TO DR STEPHAN STANESCU SVD 02-11-2002 

2002-02-13 097.SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM FOR TRIAL ISSUED BY ATTORNEY 

2002-02-13 >TO DR JOHN P BASKETT SVD 02-11-2002 

2002-02-13 098.SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM FOR TRIAL ISSUED BY ATTORNEY 

2002-02-13 >TO MARIA RIVERA MD - SVD ALBINO GAW 02-11-2002 

2002-02-15 099.DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO STRIKE PLAINTIFFS EXPERT E W 

2002-02-15 >RASCO 

2002-02-21 100.DEFENDANT'S RESPONSE TO PLAINTIFFS REQUEST FOR 

2002-02-21 >COPIES 

2002-02-22 101.EMERGENCY MOTION TO COMPEL MOTION TO STRIKE AND 

2002-02-22 >MOTION FOR SANCTIONS 

2002-02-22 102.NOTICE OF TELEPHONIC HEARING 03-01-2002 @2:15 AWN 

2002-02-22 >IN RE: DEFENDANTS MOTION TO STRIKE PLAINTIFFS 

2002-02-22 >EXPERT E W RASCO 

2002-02-22 103.NOTICE OF FILING DEPOSITION TRANSCRIPT OF E W RASCO 

2002-02-22 104.TELEPHONIC DEPOSITION OF: E W RASCO 02-13-2002 

2002-02-25 105.DEFENDANT'S EXHIBIT LIST 

2002-02-25 106.MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANTS MOTION TO SRIKE 

2002-02-25 >PLAINTIFFS EXPERT ED RASCO 

2002-02-25 107.AFFIDAVIT OF GERRI PENNACHIO (EXHIBIT A) 

2002-02-25 108.NOTICE OF HEARING 03-01-2002 @10:15 AWN IN RE: 

2002-02-25 >PLAINTIFFS EMERGENCY MOTION TO COMPEL MOTION TO 

2002-02-25 >STRIKE AND MOTION FOR SANCTIONS 

2002-02-28 109.SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM FOR TRIAL ISSUED BY ATTORNEY 

2002-02-28 >TO DR TOD NORTHRUM 

2002-02-28 110.NOTICE OF FILING IME (MEDICAL EXAMINATION) 

2002-02-28 111.INDEPENDENT MEDICAL EXAMINATION BY TED NORTHRUP OF 

2002-02-28 >DOROTHY SYKES 

2002-03-01 112.WAL MARTS UNILATERAL PRETRIAL STIPULATION 

2002-03-01 113.DEFENDANTS MOTION TO STRIKE PLAINTIFF KIRBY SYKES 

2002-03-01 >CONSORTIUM CLAIM 

2002-03-01 114.DEFENDANT'S FIRST MOTION IN LIMINE 

2002-03-01 115.NOTICE OF TELEPHONIC HEARING 03-01-2002 @3:00 AWN 

2002-03-01 >IN RE: DEFENDANTS MOTION TO STRIKE KIRBY SYKES AND 

2002-03-01 >DEFENDANTS FIRST MOTION IN LIMINE 

2002-03-01 116.JOINT PRETRIAL STIPULATION 

2002-03-27 117.NOTICE OF VOLUNTARY DISMISSAL REC OR BK 889 PG 1906 
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 10:58:02 PM

UCN: 541999DR008224FDXXXX
File Date: 1999-10-04 Disposition Date: 1999-10-04
File Type: INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION - FD10
Judge: WILLIAM A PARSONS   

Plaintiffs
SYKES KATRINA  Defendants
BELCHER ERIC 


Date Docket Description
1999-10-04 001.PETITION FOR INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION AGAINST 

1999-10-04 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE 

1999-10-04 002.AFFIDAVIT AND MOTION FOR WAIVER OF FEES FOR 

1999-10-04 PETITION FOR INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION 

1999-10-04 003.CLERK'S CERTIFICATE AS TO AFFIDAVIT AND MOTION 

1999-10-04 FOR WAIVER OF FEES 

1999-10-04 004.FAMILY LAW FINANCIAL AFFIDAVIT (SHORT FORM) 

1999-10-04 005.TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION AGAINST 

1999-10-04 >DOMESTIC VIOLENCE 10-3-99 PTM IN RE: HEARING SET 

1999-10-04 >10-13-99 @10:30 RESPONDENT TO HAVE NO CONTACT WITH 

1999-10-04 >PETITIONER OR GO WITHIN 500 FEET OF PETITIONER'S 

1999-10-04 >RESIDENCE PETITIONER TO HAVE TEMPORARY USE OF 

1999-10-04 >DWELLING 

1999-10-04 >ORDER RT 10-6-99 SVD 10-3-99 PUTNAM SO#1750-FB 

1999-10-07 006.MOTION TO DISSOLVE 

1999-10-08 007.ORDER OF DISMISSAL OF TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR 

1999-10-08 >PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE 10-8-99 WAP 

1999-10-08 >IN RE: PETITIONER FILED MOTION TO DISSOLVE 10-6-99 

1999-10-08 > ACCORDINGLY CASE DISMISSED WITHOUT PREJUDICE 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 10:58:52 PM
Finally, the last one...... Busy people..

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UCN: 541999DR007064FDXXXX
File Date: 1999-01-20 Disposition Date: 1999-01-19
File Type: INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION - FD10
Judge: A W NICHOLS III   

Plaintiffs
SYKES KATRINA  Defendants
SYKES DOROTHY ANNETTE 


Date Docket Description
1999-01-20 001.PETITION FOR INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION AGAINST 

1999-01-20 >DOMESTIC VIOLENCE 

1999-01-20 002.AFFIDAVIT AND MOTION FOR WAIVER OF FEES FOR 

1999-01-20 >PETITION FOR INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION 

1999-01-20 003.CLERK'S CERTIFICATE AS TO AFFIDAVIT AND MOTION 

1999-01-20 >FOR WAIVER OF FEES 

1999-01-20 004.FAMILY LAW FINANCIAL AFFIDAVIT (SHORT FORM) 

1999-01-20 005.TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION AGAINST 

1999-01-20 >DOMESTIC VIOLENCE 1/19/99 WAP IN RE: PARTIES 

1999-01-20 >TO APPEAR 2/1/99 @ 4:00 AWN RESPONDENT SHALL 

1999-01-20 >NOT GO WITHIN 500 FT OF PETITIONERS RESIDENCE 

1999-01-20 >224 DAVIS LAKE RD PALATKA FL RESPONDENT SHALL 

1999-01-20 >NOT USE OR POSSESS A FIREARM OR AMMUNITION 

1999-01-20 >RESPONDENT IS TO HAVE NO CONTACT WITH 

1999-01-20 >PETITIONERS MINOR CHILDREN UNTIL FUTHER ORDER 

1999-01-20 >OF THE COURT DOES NOT INVOLVE ISSUES OF CUSTODY 

1999-01-20 >OR VISITATION TEMP ORD RT 01-25-99 SVD 

1999-01-20 >01-21-99 PUTNAM SO#990224 

1999-02-01 006.TRO COURT MINUTES ENT CIR CT MIN BK 299 PG 456 

1999-02-03 007.ORDER OF DISMISSAL OF TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR 

1999-02-03 >PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC OR REPEAT VIOLENCE 

1999-02-03 >2-2-99 AWN IN RE: EVIDENCE PRESENTED 

1999-02-03 >INSUFFICIENT UNDER FLROIDA LAW TO ALLOW COURT 

1999-02-03 >TO ISSUE INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION AGAINST 

1999-02-03 >DOMESTIC OR REPEAT ACCORDINGLY CASE DISMISSED 

 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 10:59:32 PM
I agree. I do read what other posters say though and I admit I do try to decipher intentions...especially after the annafl postings.  ::MonkeyEek::
...just sayin.  ::MonkeyDevil::

I do too. I read what is said and kinda file it away. and Annafl  ::MonkeyEek:: still don't know what to make of that mess.

OK, Monkeys put your thinkin' caps on.  Speaking of AnnaFL...I remember her saying that she was a relative or some type of connection...to the Sheffields/Griffis Clan.  Now, also the fact that it was mentioned that Ron did some work for her..like the landscaping or tree stuff.

But then I thught she lived in Gainesville, and a website was pulled up for her.  But now here we have Katrina Belcher who seems to fit that description of AnnaFL.
OK Grams and am I off in left field when I say that it may have been discovered that her girlfriend is a SO or RSO?
What exactly was it that made people believe that it was the person with the website from Gainseville? Was there anything concrete tying AnnaFl to that person?

It was said that her live in (female) was the S/O hat was a mod on the WS forum.  I cannot remember what type of website there was, but guess we are gonna have to go back and do a net search for AnnaFL..or go to our members list and see if she is till up..ad check out her posts.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 11:00:21 PM
I went to check at another site to see what was going on and someone I feel is a very level headed poster found and posted this link so I am bringing it here:
http://www.bloggernews.net/120963

(Thank you Panache)

Oh goodness. I'm not sure what the heck is going on but Simon is right. A lot of the stuff going on is on the outside fringes and has nothing to do with finding Haleigh.
I pray all the weird side hijinks stuff just goes away for now, no I take that back, I don't ever want to know what they are talking about unless it has anything to do with finding Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 11:03:12 PM
I agree. I do read what other posters say though and I admit I do try to decipher intentions...especially after the annafl postings.  ::MonkeyEek::
...just sayin.  ::MonkeyDevil::

I do too. I read what is said and kinda file it away. and Annafl  ::MonkeyEek:: still don't know what to make of that mess.

OK, Monkeys put your thinkin' caps on.  Speaking of AnnaFL...I remember her saying that she was a relative or some type of connection...to the Sheffields/Griffis Clan.  Now, also the fact that it was mentioned that Ron did some work for her..like the landscaping or tree stuff.

But then I thught she lived in Gainesville, and a website was pulled up for her.  But now here we have Katrina Belcher who seems to fit that description of AnnaFL.
OK Grams and am I off in left field when I say that it may have been discovered that her girlfriend is a SO or RSO?
What exactly was it that made people believe that it was the person with the website from Gainseville? Was there anything concrete tying AnnaFl to that person?

It was said that her live in (female) was the S/O hat was a mod on the WS forum.  I cannot remember what type of website there was, but guess we are gonna have to go back and do a net search for AnnaFL..or go to our members list and see if she is till up..ad check out her posts.

 ::MonkeyEek:: Was a mod?  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 11:08:25 PM
Well I might be doing something wrong. I'm not sure what but I can't access the older posts. Is it just me?

They are listed under high profile archives
Thanks JNGA


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 20, 2009, 11:14:04 PM
Myles K Sykes is GGS's husband I believe and I believe the K stands for Kirby 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 11:17:31 PM
Myles K Sykes is GGS's husband I believe and I believe the K stands for Kirby 

Yes, you are right.. We know the date of his death and location, but cannot find an obituary to confirm who their children are.  We believe that Katrina is their daughter, but we need to be able to confirm.  Right now Wyks has her listed as a relative of Crystal, and with the Sykes maiden name, she is also related to ron.  Apparently, Teresa neves is a child from the first marriage.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 11:18:39 PM
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   Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #10
« Reply #1903 on: April 04, 2009, 07:58:15 PM » 

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Quote from: GramaMonkey on April 04, 2009, 07:40:31 PM
Quote from: Wyks on April 04, 2009, 07:31:23 PM
Hmmm..

*If* AnnaFL is indeed Joy Drawdy, who lives in Gainesville, FL... and if she indeed has a significant other who is a sex offender, then this appears to be her:

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=62331




What was the name of Windchime on WS??


Terri something. Sorry, I answered incorrectly the first time.
 
If you want to find any older posts.  In the search box type: AnnaFl...all of the posts with her name will come up.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 11:26:05 PM
Myles K Sykes is GGS's husband I believe and I believe the K stands for Kirby 

Yes, you are right.. We know the date of his death and location, but cannot find an obituary to confirm who their children are.  We believe that Katrina is their daughter, but we need to be able to confirm.  Right now Wyks has her listed as a relative of Crystal, and with the Sykes maiden name, she is also related to ron.  Apparently, Teresa neves is a child from the first marriage.

Maybe check his first name as Kirby....He may just used his middle name MYLES....as his first


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 20, 2009, 11:27:24 PM
Katrina Marie Sykes married Brian Keith Branham on  12-28-1992
and I had another thought...I guess this Katrina Marie might be where Haleighs middle name came from.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 20, 2009, 11:27:35 PM
Name: Myles K Sykes
Birth Date: 27 November 1940
Death Date: 23 January 2002 
Issuing State: Florida
Residence at Death: Crescent City,Putnam,Florida 32112
Satsuma Cemetery, Putnam, Florida



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 11:33:51 PM
I went to check at another site to see what was going on and someone I feel is a very level headed poster found and posted this link so I am bringing it here:
http://www.bloggernews.net/120963

(Thank you Panache)

Oh goodness. I'm not sure what the heck is going on but Simon is right. A lot of the stuff going on is on the outside fringes and has nothing to do with finding Haleigh.
I pray all the weird side hijinks stuff just goes away for now, no I take that back, I don't ever want to know what they are talking about unless it has anything to do with finding Haleigh.

some of what Simon is saying in code makes sense in the way he spells it out, old macdonalds PHARM imo, is referring to pharmaceutical drugs, as we know many, many of these people are very casual in talking about their own personal use without prescriptions, he also says there is more than one Macdonalds(which is not how mickeydees is spelled anyway and I don't think that's a mistake) and the sweet oil that flows from the street sale of these drugs is HUGE. I have said all along Ron's dealings in this world are directly related to Haleigh gone missing. It also sounds like there is some hanky panky going on between "outsiders" who have come to "help" don't you think? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 11:37:16 PM
Well I might be doing something wrong. I'm not sure what but I can't access the older posts. Is it just me?
I can't either what am I doing wrong?
as for family connections going back in thread #3 which is early March, discussions state it's believed annafl is related but not by blood, to Marie, Crystal's mother and that pirate, poster on WS is a "close" relative of Ron's and that is posted by pirate on WS and brought over to SM.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 20, 2009, 11:38:08 PM
I went to check at another site to see what was going on and someone I feel is a very level headed poster found and posted this link so I am bringing it here:
http://www.bloggernews.net/120963

(Thank you Panache)

Oh goodness. I'm not sure what the heck is going on but Simon is right. A lot of the stuff going on is on the outside fringes and has nothing to do with finding Haleigh.
I pray all the weird side hijinks stuff just goes away for now, no I take that back, I don't ever want to know what they are talking about unless it has anything to do with finding Haleigh.

some of what Simon is saying in code makes sense in the way he spells it out, old macdonalds PHARM imo, is referring to pharmaceutical drugs, as we know many, many of these people are very casual in talking about their own personal use without prescriptions, he also says there is more than one Macdonalds(which is not how mickeydees is spelled anyway and I don't think that's a mistake) and the sweet oil that flows from the street sale of these drugs is HUGE. I have said all along Ron's dealings in this world are directly related to Haleigh gone missing. It also sounds like there is some hanky panky going on between "outsiders" who have come to "help" don't you think? 

Ronald Macdonald.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: TxLady2 on May 20, 2009, 11:40:22 PM
Something big must have happened on the Rumor Thread #56 at WS, it's not only closed it went poof  ::MonkeyEek:: Anyone no what happened?

I was over there about the time it said was closed until 6PM.  I did not notice any type of aruguing or fighting going on.  There was a post made by b..me, that apparently stated that lived close to where Tori Stafford was from ( that would put this person in Canada) anyhow, continuing with the post, stated that due to the Stafford findings etc...that she/he would be UNABLE to continue with the Haleigh searching thread.   However, should an arrest be made, then would return to the forum.  Now, some asked specifics, but I did not see anymore replies.  I tried to go and pick up the post...but it has also been deleted from posters info.

I always thought that this person was a local, but maybe there is another connection somehow.
Thank-you, now that is odd. This person does have connections with someone in the Satsuma area, what she calls her sources, but I had no idea she lived in Canada. How very strange that she could not continue with the Haleigh searching thread, due to the Stafford findings. Now my mind is in overdrive.  ::MonkeyEek:: Wonder who this person really is?

Hi, NoRose... are you all talking about badme? She is just someone who cares very much about Haleigh, and it has probably taken a toll on her... like it does a lot of folks. I know she did have a source in the area there, but not very many know who that source is... probably just the mods. TG has posted a few times that she is sincere and what she posts about is authentic.
I was surprised at the post she made today, but I completely understand. Could be that she feels she has been wrong with her feelings of who is guilty or not... could be that she has had some information that changed her mind at how the case is going. IDK, I can't read minds... but as far as I know, she is okay. No need to worry... she is not a local, I'm sure of that.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 11:44:00 PM
I went to check at another site to see what was going on and someone I feel is a very level headed poster found and posted this link so I am bringing it here:
http://www.bloggernews.net/120963

(Thank you Panache)

Oh goodness. I'm not sure what the heck is going on but Simon is right. A lot of the stuff going on is on the outside fringes and has nothing to do with finding Haleigh.
I pray all the weird side hijinks stuff just goes away for now, no I take that back, I don't ever want to know what they are talking about unless it has anything to do with finding Haleigh.

some of what Simon is saying in code makes sense in the way he spells it out, old macdonalds PHARM imo, is referring to pharmaceutical drugs, as we know many, many of these people are very casual in talking about their own personal use without prescriptions, he also says there is more than one Macdonalds(which is not how mickeydees is spelled anyway and I don't think that's a mistake) and the sweet oil that flows from the street sale of these drugs is HUGE. I have said all along Ron's dealings in this world are directly related to Haleigh gone missing. It also sounds like there is some hanky panky going on between "outsiders" who have come to "help" don't you think? 

Ronald Macdonald.... ::MonkeyTongue::
right on JG hmmm I thought I was looking for a place duh...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: TxLady2 on May 20, 2009, 11:44:52 PM
Well I might be doing something wrong. I'm not sure what but I can't access the older posts. Is it just me?
I can't either what am I doing wrong?
as for family connections going back in thread #3 which is early March, discussions state it's believed annafl is related but not by blood, to Marie, Crystal's mother and that pirate, poster on WS is a "close" relative of Ron's and that is posted by pirate on WS and brought over to SM.

Are you sure about that? I thought pirate was not related to either side of the family... if so, only distantly.
I believe AnnaFL said she was related to the Griffis family, so not directly related to Marie or Crystal. Not sure if that is true or not, considering how it finally ended.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 11:52:09 PM
Something big must have happened on the Rumor Thread #56 at WS, it's not only closed it went poof  ::MonkeyEek:: Anyone no what happened?

I was over there about the time it said was closed until 6PM.  I did not notice any type of aruguing or fighting going on.  There was a post made by b..me, that apparently stated that lived close to where Tori Stafford was from ( that would put this person in Canada) anyhow, continuing with the post, stated that due to the Stafford findings etc...that she/he would be UNABLE to continue with the Haleigh searching thread.   However, should an arrest be made, then would return to the forum.  Now, some asked specifics, but I did not see anymore replies.  I tried to go and pick up the post...but it has also been deleted from posters info.

I always thought that this person was a local, but maybe there is another connection somehow.
Thank-you, now that is odd. This person does have connections with someone in the Satsuma area, what she calls her sources, but I had no idea she lived in Canada. How very strange that she could not continue with the Haleigh searching thread, due to the Stafford findings. Now my mind is in overdrive.  ::MonkeyEek:: Wonder who this person really is?

Hi, NoRose... are you all talking about badme? She is just someone who cares very much about Haleigh, and it has probably taken a toll on her... like it does a lot of folks. I know she did have a source in the area there, but not very many know who that source is... probably just the mods. TG has posted a few times that she is sincere and what she posts about is authentic.
I was surprised at the post she made today, but I completely understand. Could be that she feels she has been wrong with her feelings of who is guilty or not... could be that she has had some information that changed her mind at how the case is going. IDK, I can't read minds... but as far as I know, she is okay. No need to worry... she is not a local, I'm sure of that.
those arrests did take their toll today on most of us, I know, I caught myself mouthing off earlier about this case. None of us wants to hear that kind of outcome! heartbreaking doesn't come close to describing it... hope she's ok after a rest from here and comes back soon... To whom it may concern:
PLEASE KEEP HALEIGH SAFE AND RETURN HER TO HER FAMILY even if you despise her parents, she should be with her siblings!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: TxLady2 on May 20, 2009, 11:53:05 PM
I have a suggestion. Since y'all are so concerned with who everybody is over there, why don't the ones of you who are members at WS tell us your nicknames over there, so we can figure out who YOU are. I mean, fair is fair, right?
Look... I like both places, and I don't have a problem with this board, except sometimes it takes 15 minutes for the page to load, if it ever does.... otherwise I would be here a lot. I just get tired of it freezing up on this old computer.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 11:56:51 PM
Well I might be doing something wrong. I'm not sure what but I can't access the older posts. Is it just me?
I can't either what am I doing wrong?
as for family connections going back in thread #3 which is early March, discussions state it's believed annafl is related but not by blood, to Marie, Crystal's mother and that pirate, poster on WS is a "close" relative of Ron's and that is posted by pirate on WS and brought over to SM.

Are you sure about that? I thought pirate was not related to either side of the family... if so, only distantly.
I believe AnnaFL said she was related to the Griffis family, so not directly related to Marie or Crystal. Not sure if that is true or not, considering how it finally ended.
I only know I read that info in haleigh thread #3 and it was a direct quote from pirate brought over to SM and posted early in march....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 11:56:52 PM
I went to check at another site to see what was going on and someone I feel is a very level headed poster found and posted this link so I am bringing it here:
http://www.bloggernews.net/120963

(Thank you Panache)

Oh goodness. I'm not sure what the heck is going on but Simon is right. A lot of the stuff going on is on the outside fringes and has nothing to do with finding Haleigh.
I pray all the weird side hijinks stuff just goes away for now, no I take that back, I don't ever want to know what they are talking about unless it has anything to do with finding Haleigh.

some of what Simon is saying in code makes sense in the way he spells it out, old macdonalds PHARM imo, is referring to pharmaceutical drugs, as we know many, many of these people are very casual in talking about their own personal use without prescriptions, he also says there is more than one Macdonalds(which is not how mickeydees is spelled anyway and I don't think that's a mistake) and the sweet oil that flows from the street sale of these drugs is HUGE. I have said all along Ron's dealings in this world are directly related to Haleigh gone missing. It also sounds like there is some hanky panky going on between "outsiders" who have come to "help" don't you think? 

Ronald Macdonald.... ::MonkeyTongue::
Well he might possibly think that he is a mac Daddy, or Misty might anyway.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 11:59:40 PM
I have a suggestion. Since y'all are so concerned with who everybody is over there, why don't the ones of you who are members at WS tell us your nicknames over there, so we can figure out who YOU are. I mean, fair is fair, right?
Look... I like both places, and I don't have a problem with this board, except sometimes it takes 15 minutes for the page to load, if it ever does.... otherwise I would be here a lot. I just get tired of it freezing up on this old computer.  ::MonkeyCool::

I don't post over on WS since I have a hard time navigating that site, ugh, and I think I tried to register there and never got an email confirmation...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 12:01:45 AM
Name: Myles K Sykes
Birth Date: 27 November 1940
Death Date: 23 January 2002 
Issuing State: Florida
Residence at Death: Crescent City,Putnam,Florida 32112
Satsuma Cemetery, Putnam, Florida



From his social security.. yep.. I don't understand why Ancestry doesn't have his obit listed.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mymonkey on May 21, 2009, 12:10:07 AM
I went to check at another site to see what was going on and someone I feel is a very level headed poster found and posted this link so I am bringing it here:
http://www.bloggernews.net/120963

(Thank you Panache)

Oh goodness. I'm not sure what the heck is going on but Simon is right. A lot of the stuff going on is on the outside fringes and has nothing to do with finding Haleigh.
I pray all the weird side hijinks stuff just goes away for now, no I take that back, I don't ever want to know what they are talking about unless it has anything to do with finding Haleigh.

some of what Simon is saying in code makes sense in the way he spells it out, old macdonalds PHARM imo, is referring to pharmaceutical drugs, as we know many, many of these people are very casual in talking about their own personal use without prescriptions, he also says there is more than one Macdonalds(which is not how mickeydees is spelled anyway and I don't think that's a mistake) and the sweet oil that flows from the street sale of these drugs is HUGE. I have said all along Ron's dealings in this world are directly related to Haleigh gone missing. It also sounds like there is some hanky panky going on between "outsiders" who have come to "help" don't you think? 

Ronald thinks he his a whopper...I see him more as a burger king guy...sorry could not help myself ::MonkeyDevil::

Ronald Macdonald.... ::MonkeyTongue::
Well he might possibly think that he is a mac Daddy, or Misty might anyway.


I see Ronald more as a Burger King guy....Home of the Whopper...got to be the reason women love him  ::MonkeyDevil::::MonkeyDevil:: sorry could not help myself ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 21, 2009, 12:13:56 AM
I went to check at another site to see what was going on and someone I feel is a very level headed poster found and posted this link so I am bringing it here:
http://www.bloggernews.net/120963

(Thank you Panache)

Oh goodness. I'm not sure what the heck is going on but Simon is right. A lot of the stuff going on is on the outside fringes and has nothing to do with finding Haleigh.
I pray all the weird side hijinks stuff just goes away for now, no I take that back, I don't ever want to know what they are talking about unless it has anything to do with finding Haleigh.

some of what Simon is saying in code makes sense in the way he spells it out, old macdonalds PHARM imo, is referring to pharmaceutical drugs, as we know many, many of these people are very casual in talking about their own personal use without prescriptions, he also says there is more than one Macdonalds(which is not how mickeydees is spelled anyway and I don't think that's a mistake) and the sweet oil that flows from the street sale of these drugs is HUGE. I have said all along Ron's dealings in this world are directly related to Haleigh gone missing. It also sounds like there is some hanky panky going on between "outsiders" who have come to "help" don't you think? 

Ronald thinks he his a whopper...I see him more as a burger king guy...sorry could not help myself ::MonkeyDevil::

Ronald Macdonald.... ::MonkeyTongue::
Well he might possibly think that he is a mac Daddy, or Misty might anyway.


I see Ronald more as a Burger King guy....Home of the Whopper...got to be the reason women love him  ::MonkeyDevil::::MonkeyDevil:: sorry could not help myself ::MonkeyWink::
LOL! Home of the whoppers all right. (He's the one who picked Haleigh up from the bus stop dontcha know?)  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 21, 2009, 12:14:09 AM
TXLady2

I only post here and on Art harris and I use JNGA on both sites, Just so everybody knows   ::MonkeyWink::
 :2waver:  And hello to all the guest out there looking into the monkey cage!



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 12:25:53 AM
I went to check at another site to see what was going on and someone I feel is a very level headed poster found and posted this link so I am bringing it here:
http://www.bloggernews.net/120963

(Thank you Panache)

Oh goodness. I'm not sure what the heck is going on but Simon is right. A lot of the stuff going on is on the outside fringes and has nothing to do with finding Haleigh.
I pray all the weird side hijinks stuff just goes away for now, no I take that back, I don't ever want to know what they are talking about unless it has anything to do with finding Haleigh.

some of what Simon is saying in code makes sense in the way he spells it out, old macdonalds PHARM imo, is referring to pharmaceutical drugs, as we know many, many of these people are very casual in talking about their own personal use without prescriptions, he also says there is more than one Macdonalds(which is not how mickeydees is spelled anyway and I don't think that's a mistake) and the sweet oil that flows from the street sale of these drugs is HUGE. I have said all along Ron's dealings in this world are directly related to Haleigh gone missing. It also sounds like there is some hanky panky going on between "outsiders" who have come to "help" don't you think? 

Ronald Macdonald.... ::MonkeyTongue::
Well he might possibly think that he is a mac Daddy, or Misty might anyway.

This is what Phat means.
 
An adjective used in pop culture to express approval. Hence, someone or something that is phat could be entertaining, intelligent, attractive or otherwise to be admired. When the word first surfaced in the 1960s, men generally used it to describe attractive, or "fine", women.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 12:28:40 AM
I have a suggestion. Since y'all are so concerned with who everybody is over there, why don't the ones of you who are members at WS tell us your nicknames over there, so we can figure out who YOU are. I mean, fair is fair, right?
Look... I like both places, and I don't have a problem with this board, except sometimes it takes 15 minutes for the page to load, if it ever does.... otherwise I would be here a lot. I just get tired of it freezing up on this old computer.  ::MonkeyCool::


Well, Im of course mlee on sm, nothing on ws not a member, marelee on simon's, mlee on Art Harris.. so you have mine.... oh yes, on my Roberts Blog, I'm mareleigh.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 12:35:29 AM
I just followed the link left by Patricia to Simon's Blog, before reading the poster's, I read Simon's comments, here is a small tid bit..... Helloooooo????


"I will even offer some sage advice, get back to finding Haleigh, and keep your family jewels in your pants, frolicking can come later, after we have found the little girl.

Simon Barrett"

           


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 21, 2009, 12:38:55 AM
I went to check at another site to see what was going on and someone I feel is a very level headed poster found and posted this link so I am bringing it here:
http://www.bloggernews.net/120963

(Thank you Panache)

Oh goodness. I'm not sure what the heck is going on but Simon is right. A lot of the stuff going on is on the outside fringes and has nothing to do with finding Haleigh.
I pray all the weird side hijinks stuff just goes away for now, no I take that back, I don't ever want to know what they are talking about unless it has anything to do with finding Haleigh.

some of what Simon is saying in code makes sense in the way he spells it out, old macdonalds PHARM imo, is referring to pharmaceutical drugs, as we know many, many of these people are very casual in talking about their own personal use without prescriptions, he also says there is more than one Macdonalds(which is not how mickeydees is spelled anyway and I don't think that's a mistake) and the sweet oil that flows from the street sale of these drugs is HUGE. I have said all along Ron's dealings in this world are directly related to Haleigh gone missing. It also sounds like there is some hanky panky going on between "outsiders" who have come to "help" don't you think? 

Ronald Macdonald.... ::MonkeyTongue::
Well he might possibly think that he is a mac Daddy, or Misty might anyway.

This is what Phat means.
 
An adjective used in pop culture to express approval. Hence, someone or something that is phat could be entertaining, intelligent, attractive or otherwise to be admired. When the word first surfaced in the 1960s, men generally used it to describe attractive, or "fine", women.


MacDonald's, phat and pharm.
Tales from the crypt though ennit?

WHERE IS HALEIGH!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 21, 2009, 12:40:27 AM
I just followed the link left by Patricia to Simon's Blog, before reading the poster's, I read Simon's comments, here is a small tid bit..... Helloooooo????


"I will even offer some sage advice, get back to finding Haleigh, and keep your family jewels in your pants, frolicking can come later, after we have found the little girl.

Simon Barrett"

           


I have no idea who he might be talking to but he is 100% right.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 12:42:41 AM
I hate to leave such good company tonight, but got to go upstairs.  Even too tired for the idiot child inside to come out to play.  6 comes early.. You guys are working so hard tonight and good info is flowing in.. I'm tickled pink..  Stay safe tonight, and out of trouble..  Night Monkeys and guest.....  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 21, 2009, 12:43:24 AM
I hate to leave such good company tonight, but got to go upstairs.  Even too tired for the idiot child inside to come out to play.  6 comes early.. You guys are working so hard tonight and good info is flowing in.. I'm tickled pink..  Stay safe tonight, and out of trouble..  Night Monkeys and guest.....  ::MonkeyRoll::
Goodnight mlee.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 21, 2009, 12:50:10 AM
Just a heads up for those that were questioning Pirate on WS.....she is not a family memeber of Rons at all!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 21, 2009, 12:51:00 AM
Good night Mlee


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 21, 2009, 12:51:47 AM
I just followed the link left by Patricia to Simon's Blog, before reading the poster's, I read Simon's comments, here is a small tid bit..... Helloooooo????


"I will even offer some sage advice, get back to finding Haleigh, and keep your family jewels in your pants, frolicking can come later, after we have found the little girl.

Simon Barrett"
I already commented on that~he begins by referencing lawyers doesn't he?

           



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 21, 2009, 12:53:13 AM
I wonder if this could be Katrina Belcher, if she is TN's sister, I think there is enough resemblance to be half sisters.

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Haleigh%20Cummings/?action=view&current=t3.jpg


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 21, 2009, 12:56:06 AM
I hate to leave such good company tonight, but got to go upstairs.  Even too tired for the idiot child inside to come out to play.  6 comes early.. You guys are working so hard tonight and good info is flowing in.. I'm tickled pink..  Stay safe tonight, and out of trouble..  Night Monkeys and guest.....  ::MonkeyRoll::
night mlee sleep well and sound sweet dreams.....maybe tomorrow Haleigh will be home safe


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 21, 2009, 12:58:07 AM
Just a heads up for those that were questioning Pirate on WS.....she is not a family memeber of Rons at all!
oops~sorry to bring that over with no proof but a HUGE thanks HH for clearing that up...any reason why they made that claim early on? attention is my guess


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 21, 2009, 01:02:00 AM
I wonder if this could be Katrina Belcher, if she is TN's sister, I think there is enough resemblance to be half sisters.

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Haleigh%20Cummings/?action=view&current=t3.jpg
don't know if it's katrina but sure is a resemblance to Theresa and GGma!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 21, 2009, 01:12:47 AM
Monkeys, monkeys monkeys....I came home tonight to eleven pure pages of absolute brilliance!!!  Monkeys at their finest!  Good work tonight, wow, I'm floored!  Wish I could have been here helping...  For all your hard work, I offer Margaritas all around~


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 21, 2009, 01:25:41 AM
Ok, I found somebody else that we haven't looked at yet, or atleast not that I know of.  It's misty's exboyfriend billy.  So far I don't know anything about him and it's hard to search without a last name and he looks like he might be pretty young too, so I don't think we are going to find much on him but atleast he's in the cast of characters now.
Here is a photo of him and this is how I found him. 
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Haleigh%20Cummings/?action=view&current=MistyandBilly2007.jpg

So how could he be connected?  Well, what if.....   He got mad at ron for taking his girl away and decided to take rons girl away? (theory only not fact)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 21, 2009, 01:26:19 AM
here's a question~ has anyone ever friended a friend of someone on any of these myspace pages? in the Tori Stafford case Michael's page is still open and one of his friends who he has many pics of on multiple sites can still be friended(if that's even a word or action)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 21, 2009, 01:38:23 AM
Just a heads up for those that were questioning Pirate on WS.....she is not a family memeber of Rons at all!
oops~sorry to bring that over with no proof but a HUGE thanks HH for clearing that up...any reason why they made that claim early on? attention is my guess
None other than frustrated because they couldnt figure it out and just wanted to call her on something!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 21, 2009, 01:46:51 AM
here's a question~ has anyone ever friended a friend of someone on any of these myspace pages? in the Tori Stafford case Michael's page is still open and one of his friends who he has many pics of on multiple sites can still be friended(if that's even a word or action)
I don't know about anyone else but as for me no. Not that I would know of on any of the sites. I think it a very bad idea personally.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 21, 2009, 01:52:29 AM
here's a question~ has anyone ever friended a friend of someone on any of these myspace pages? in the Tori Stafford case Michael's page is still open and one of his friends who he has many pics of on multiple sites can still be friended(if that's even a word or action)
I don't know about anyone else but as for me no. Not that I would know of on any of the sites. I think it a very bad idea personally.
I know, I think it's a bad idea too, just asking in case someone could say for sure it's ok, no problem, go ahead do it haha, just tempted but I know better~thanks tho


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 21, 2009, 02:29:43 AM
goodknight all good monkeys, sleep sound with sweet dreams ~ tomorrow (daylight actually) hopefully will be the day Haleigh comes back safely!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 21, 2009, 02:37:02 AM
Night maureen, I don't do that either, but several monkeys are friends with crystal.  If you do just make sure your SM name isn't anything close or guessable with your myspace.  I don't think most would add strangers.  Crystal would(if she was logging in) just to find haleigh and get her photo and story out there, but do you think misty would?  I don't.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 21, 2009, 07:15:13 AM
Oh yeah I was looking up records and it seems that GGsykes (isn't her name annette?) and her husband (myles) were involved in some sort of Sykes realty co. and have tons of records in connections with that and for some reason myles gave her power of attorney.  Monkeys let me know if I have the wrong sykes, but I think they are the right ones.  Does anybody know anything about GGS's husband?
They sold property to Katrina and eric belcher on 6/22/2001 about a year after K and E got married.  Isn't GGS supposed to be Katrina B.'s mom?  Why would you get a protection order on your mom?  Hmmmm

I'll pull both the protection orders and the lawsuit.. All I can think of, this must be a hard family to live with.  I do believe that is her Mom.  I have tried to find Myles Sykes Obituary to prove he is her Dad, also found data on SQUIRES DONALD B49120 
SQUIRES ANITA J B49120, which should be Teresa neves Dad, but these files will not open up, there are 3 different files listing them, B49120, B49121, B49122.  I will post the cases.




Myles Kirby Sykes

on www.legacy.com

http://www.legacy.com/Obituaries.asp?Page=ObitFinderResults&FirstName=myles&LastName=sykes&State=FL&DateRange=2000-2009&Newspaper=&Keyword=

I think it is Florida Union News, you could find someone to do "look ups" to the Library to find the complete obit up on Microfilm, if of coarse there is "microflim reader" at Jacksonville, Library or is there a Putham Library?  Remember the libraries are closed for Memorial Day.
check before you go. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 21, 2009, 07:30:07 AM
Oh yeah I was looking up records and it seems that GGsykes (isn't her name annette?) and her husband (myles) were involved in some sort of Sykes realty co. and have tons of records in connections with that and for some reason myles gave her power of attorney.  Monkeys let me know if I have the wrong sykes, but I think they are the right ones.  Does anybody know anything about GGS's husband?
They sold property to Katrina and eric belcher on 6/22/2001 about a year after K and E got married.  Isn't GGS supposed to be Katrina B.'s mom?  Why would you get a protection order on your mom?  Hmmmm

I'll pull both the protection orders and the lawsuit.. All I can think of, this must be a hard family to live with.  I do believe that is her Mom.  I have tried to find Myles Sykes Obituary to prove he is her Dad, also found data on SQUIRES DONALD B49120 
SQUIRES ANITA J B49120, which should be Teresa neves Dad, but these files will not open up, there are 3 different files listing them, B49120, B49121, B49122.  I will post the cases.




Myles Kirby Sykes

on www.legacy.com

http://www.legacy.com/Obituaries.asp?Page=ObitFinderResults&FirstName=myles&LastName=sykes&State=FL&DateRange=2000-2009&Newspaper=&Keyword=

I think it is Florida Union News, you could find someone to do "look ups" to the Library to find the complete obit up on Microfilm, if of coarse there is "microflim reader" at Jacksonville, Library or is there a Putham Library?  Remember the libraries are closed for Memorial Day.
check before you go. 


Donald Squires on Legacy.com
http://www.legacy.com/Obituaries.asp?Page=ObitFinderResults&FirstName=donald&LastName=squire&State=FL&DateRange=all&Newspaper=&Keyword=

Sometimes on ancestry.com on message boards you may be able to locate someone that is willing to look up an obit.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 07:44:13 AM
Just a heads up for those that were questioning Pirate on WS.....she is not a family memeber of Rons at all!

Who is she???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 21, 2009, 07:46:34 AM
Good Morning all Monkeys and Guests!
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Haleigh Cummings – Scuttlebut From The Sewers

Posted on May 20th, 2009
by Simon Barrett in Op-ed, Society and Culture


Yup folks, this is not hard news, and it certainly does nothing to help find Haleigh Cummings. From a reporters standpoint there is little to report on, the cops are tight lipped, and although they clearly want a resolution, they seem somewhat reticent to talk to the press. The press is a double edged sword, we can be your best friend, or your worst enemy, pretty much it is your choice.

Play straight with us, we play straight with you.  Dink with us, we dink back. The results are usually ugly.

Because of the lack of hard news I have been poking around in the periphery, and everywhere I look I cringe.

There are more shady dealings going on than even I can comprehend. Understand this has nothing to do with finding Haleigh, this is all stupidity happening on the fringes.

Threats are flying, the old ‘he said, she said’ is the word of the day. There are some hotel hijinks that I am not quite ready to go on prime time with, but it is a classic!

There are some interesting connections between the Haleigh Bug deal and a lawyer. Again I am not ready for prime time.

My advice to the folks that I am talking about, and you know who you are. Watch out, watch out, the press is about!

I will even offer some sage advice, get back to finding Haleigh, and keep your family jewels in your pants, frolicking can come later, after we have found the little girl.

Simon Barrett

http://www.bloggernews.net/120963


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 21, 2009, 07:59:32 AM
Katrina Marie Sykes married Brian Keith Branham on  12-28-1992
and I had another thought...I guess this Katrina Marie might be where Haleighs middle name came from.

Here's another Obit

Brian Keith Branham

PALATKA, Fla. -- Brian Keith Branham, 48, died Sunday, September 23, 2007. Services are 11 a.m. Thursday at Masters Funeral Home. Visitation is 6 to 8 p.m. today at the funeral home.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 21, 2009, 08:06:16 AM
#8  Justice4Haleigh Says:
May 20th, 2009 at 3:31 pm

Art, excited to see that you will be on JVM tonight, way to go! Keep up the great work.

You might want to ask what excuse Ron’s lawyers use for Ronald and company not to attend any of the vigils offered that day, like the Duckett vigil? There were no Anthony’s there. What a lazy bum, what doesn’t he have an excuse for? Everything is always someone elses fault, never Ronalds fault. Find Haleigh!!! And a petition has been started to demand le focus their time on finding Haleigh and quit making excuses like shauland did with “Life goes on” which he stated to the Gainesville interview. Who is this guy? Does he give a rip that a 5 year old little girl is still missing after 3 long months? Where is the urgency in this case and finding little Haleigh? That department is corrupt! Here is the link to sign the petition http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/demand-action-to-find-haleigh-cummings

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/demand-action-to-find-haleigh-cummings

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/demand-action-to-find-haleigh-cummings

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/20/the-bald-truth-on-cnn-jane-velez-mitchell-2/#commentshttp://www.artharris.com/2009/05/20/the-bald-truth-on-cnn-jane-velez-mitchell-2/#comments


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 21, 2009, 08:11:12 AM
Ok, I had another thought (lol...I have them all the time...lol ::MonkeyHaHa:: )  in response to what was in the quote from me in my last post about this Katrina Marie Sykes Branham Belcher might have been where Haleighs middle name came from...I think it is more of a possiblity that she was named after her grandmother Marie Griffis...I just wasn't thinking straight.  All this searching is making my head spin ::MonkeyConfused:: , but I do it for Haleigh. 

 God bless little Haleigh where ever she is and hold her tight in your arms to keep her safe until she is found and gets to go home to someone who will take care of her  


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 21, 2009, 08:17:30 AM
#34  Art Harris Says:
May 21st, 2009 at 12:38 am

Nikkole–

FBI was down early on and remains on call should the sheriff need more, sources tell me. They were used for profiling and their behavioural experts took a look at JR’s “man in black,” squeeky shoes and bouncing scenario … as I’ve reported.

#36  Art Harris Says:
May 21st, 2009 at 12:47 am

Phyliss–A family friend tells me Ronald is in a terrible funk, as anyone would be–a daughter no one can dispute he adored, is missing; he’s having a hard time finding work, and had to work the other day for hours to net $20, after gas. How well he and Misty are getting along, hard to tell. Frankly, he could use a media coach; his video pitch to bring Haleigh home did not project the empathy or heartache others tell me he’s feeling. His lawyers did him on favor approving that performance, done more in deposition style that a human response to a sympathetic questioner. We’re happy to give him and his family time if they’d like to revisit anything. A friend is relaying this to his Mom.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/20/the-bald-truth-on-cnn-jane-velez-mitchell-2/#comments


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 21, 2009, 08:20:22 AM
Oh yeah I was looking up records and it seems that GGsykes (isn't her name annette?) and her husband (myles) were involved in some sort of Sykes realty co. and have tons of records in connections with that and for some reason myles gave her power of attorney.  Monkeys let me know if I have the wrong sykes, but I think they are the right ones.  Does anybody know anything about GGS's husband?
They sold property to Katrina and eric belcher on 6/22/2001 about a year after K and E got married.  Isn't GGS supposed to be Katrina B.'s mom?  Why would you get a protection order on your mom?  Hmmmm

I'll pull both the protection orders and the lawsuit.. All I can think of, this must be a hard family to live with.  I do believe that is her Mom.  I have tried to find Myles Sykes Obituary to prove he is her Dad, also found data on SQUIRES DONALD B49120 
SQUIRES ANITA J B49120, which should be Teresa neves Dad, but these files will not open up, there are 3 different files listing them, B49120, B49121, B49122.  I will post the cases.




Myles Kirby Sykes

on www.legacy.com

http://www.legacy.com/Obituaries.asp?Page=ObitFinderResults&FirstName=myles&LastName=sykes&State=FL&DateRange=2000-2009&Newspaper=&Keyword=

I think it is Florida Union News, you could find someone to do "look ups" to the Library to find the complete obit up on Microfilm, if of coarse there is "microflim reader" at Jacksonville, Library or is there a Putham Library?  Remember the libraries are closed for Memorial Day.
check before you go. 



Free Look-ups for Florida:
http://geneasearch.com/lookups/fl.htm

I haven't found free-look-ups for for Putnam County, FL.  I would ask the "free look-up people", when they visit the Library, to look up an obit, of coarse, if the libraries have the obits or archives for newspapers. I never assume.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 21, 2009, 08:27:23 AM
Good Morning all Monkeys and Guests!
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Haleigh Cummings – Scuttlebut From The Sewers

Posted on May 20th, 2009
by Simon Barrett in Op-ed, Society and Culture


Yup folks, this is not hard news, and it certainly does nothing to help find Haleigh Cummings. From a reporters standpoint there is little to report on, the cops are tight lipped, and although they clearly want a resolution, they seem somewhat reticent to talk to the press. The press is a double edged sword, we can be your best friend, or your worst enemy, pretty much it is your choice.

Play straight with us, we play straight with you.  Dink with us, we dink back. The results are usually ugly.

Because of the lack of hard news I have been poking around in the periphery, and everywhere I look I cringe.

There are more shady dealings going on than even I can comprehend. Understand this has nothing to do with finding Haleigh, this is all stupidity happening on the fringes.

Threats are flying, the old ‘he said, she said’ is the word of the day. There are some hotel hijinks that I am not quite ready to go on prime time with, but it is a classic!

There are some interesting connections between the Haleigh Bug deal and a lawyer. Again I am not ready for prime time.

My advice to the folks that I am talking about, and you know who you are. Watch out, watch out, the press is about!

I will even offer some sage advice, get back to finding Haleigh, and keep your family jewels in your pants, frolicking can come later, after we have found the little girl.

Simon Barrett

http://www.bloggernews.net/120963

Confuzzled said,in May 20th, 2009 at 7:45 pm WTF are you talking about now? I think it’s nonsense how there is a missing CHILD and two grown men want to talk in code. Either get the balls to say what you want or stop clogging up the net with this crap. Every time I try to do a search on this case, this chicken ass bull shit comes up.

Grow up, get some balls, and post something useful.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 21, 2009, 08:28:35 AM
www.findagrave.com  I have no clue if the Squires on this site are pertaining to your search.

First pick your search:

Simply key in a last name, country, state, county and search.

This is a very good reference, sometimes and other times it leaves you dizzy:)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 08:31:11 AM
Two orbits later, one not listing more than we had.. 6 bucks later.. Read it and weep.......

Deceased Name: Myles K. Sykes, 61 
 
WELAKA -- Myles Kirby Sykes, 61, a retiree of Florida Department of Agriculture, died Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2002.

A native of Island Grove, he was a longtime resident of Hawthorne. Mr. Sykes was a member of First Baptist Church of Fruitland Park.

Survivors include his wife of 22 years, Annette Sykes, Welaka; son, Ronald Cummings, Crescent City; stepson, Donald Squires, Crescent City; daughters, Teresa Neves, Lady Lake, Melanie Kintzler, Oakfield, Wis., and Crystal Cummings, Wildwood; brothers, Thomas Sykes, Ocala, William Sykes, Opelika, Ala., and James Sykes, Marianna; sisters, Margie Boles, Gainesville, Berniece Woodward, Micanopy, Frances Coullette, Jacksonville, Glenda Miller, Texas and Cora Sue Price, Island Grove; 10 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild.

Masters Funeral Home, Palatka, provided information.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 21, 2009, 08:49:17 AM
OMG, that is so messed up.  I would have thought misty might have been the one who wrote it, but she was probably still in diapers then.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 08:50:58 AM
Now this is the one I couldn't get, the program kept throwing errors.

Squires, Donald -  Squires, Donald, 82, of Lauderdale Lakes passed away Wednesday June 23, 2004. He was a WWII vet and devoted husband, a loving father of three   ....   More 
Published in the Sun-Sentinel on 7/4/2004 

Which means, who ever compiled the other orbit, was doing it by the seat of their pants and does appear to be confusing.
Does not list three children for him, it shows only one daughter, which of course is Teresa and she is a step daughter.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 21, 2009, 08:51:00 AM
Two orbits later, one not listing more than we had.. 6 bucks later.. Read it and weep.......

Deceased Name: Myles K. Sykes, 61 
 
WELAKA -- Myles Kirby Sykes, 61, a retiree of Florida Department of Agriculture, died Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2002.

A native of Island Grove, he was a longtime resident of Hawthorne. Mr. Sykes was a member of First Baptist Church of Fruitland Park.

Survivors include his wife of 22 years, Annette Sykes, Welaka; son, Ronald Cummings, Crescent City; stepson, Donald Squires, Crescent City; daughters, Teresa Neves, Lady Lake, Melanie Kintzler, Oakfield, Wis., and Crystal Cummings, Wildwood; brothers, Thomas Sykes, Ocala, William Sykes, Opelika, Ala., and James Sykes, Marianna; sisters, Margie Boles, Gainesville, Berniece Woodward, Micanopy, Frances Coullette, Jacksonville, Glenda Miller, Texas and Cora Sue Price, Island Grove; 10 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild.

Masters Funeral Home, Palatka, provided information.


Missing=  Katrina Sykes, daughter.

Son= Ronald Cummings ( should be grandson)
daughter= Crystal Cummings ( should be grandaughter)



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 08:56:42 AM
You would think its monday morning, and my head is spinning..  first the Myles obit is crazy, and second I just realized I was trying to buy Donald Squires too.  Think I need to finish my coffee, anyway, we have a bit more info.. just ignore my references that one is the other..  Maybe I need to go back to bed.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 21, 2009, 08:57:31 AM
Two orbits later, one not listing more than we had.. 6 bucks later.. Read it and weep.......

Deceased Name: Myles K. Sykes, 61 
 
WELAKA -- Myles Kirby Sykes, 61, a retiree of Florida Department of Agriculture, died Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2002.

A native of Island Grove, he was a longtime resident of Hawthorne. Mr. Sykes was a member of First Baptist Church of Fruitland Park.

Survivors include his wife of 22 years, Annette Sykes, Welaka; son, Ronald Cummings, Crescent City; stepson, Donald Squires, Crescent City; daughters, Teresa Neves, Lady Lake, Melanie Kintzler, Oakfield, Wis., and Crystal Cummings, Wildwood; brothers, Thomas Sykes, Ocala, William Sykes, Opelika, Ala., and James Sykes, Marianna; sisters, Margie Boles, Gainesville, Berniece Woodward, Micanopy, Frances Coullette, Jacksonville, Glenda Miller, Texas and Cora Sue Price, Island Grove; 10 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild.

Masters Funeral Home, Palatka, provided information.


Two orbits later, one not listing more than we had.. 6 bucks later.. Read it and weep

 ::MonkeyDevil:: Thank you mlee. Perhaps you can get reimbursed from the SM kitty  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 09:05:33 AM
Two orbits later, one not listing more than we had.. 6 bucks later.. Read it and weep.......

Deceased Name: Myles K. Sykes, 61 
 
WELAKA -- Myles Kirby Sykes, 61, a retiree of Florida Department of Agriculture, died Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2002.

A native of Island Grove, he was a longtime resident of Hawthorne. Mr. Sykes was a member of First Baptist Church of Fruitland Park.

Survivors include his wife of 22 years, Annette Sykes, Welaka; son, Ronald Cummings, Crescent City; stepson, Donald Squires, Crescent City; daughters, Teresa Neves, Lady Lake, Melanie Kintzler, Oakfield, Wis., and Crystal Cummings, Wildwood; brothers, Thomas Sykes, Ocala, William Sykes, Opelika, Ala., and James Sykes, Marianna; sisters, Margie Boles, Gainesville, Berniece Woodward, Micanopy, Frances Coullette, Jacksonville, Glenda Miller, Texas and Cora Sue Price, Island Grove; 10 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild.

Masters Funeral Home, Palatka, provided information.


Two orbits later, one not listing more than we had.. 6 bucks later.. Read it and weep

 ::MonkeyDevil:: Thank you mlee. Perhaps you can get reimbursed from the SM kitty  ::MonkeyHaHa::

It's okay Heart, its money well spent.. only way we were going to get it.. what blows my mind who whoever wrote the orbit, must be related to rainy.....  and I didn't catch the Donald Squires on the search.. anyway if that was teresa first husband, boy did she marry an older man.. must be a junior or a third Donald Squires that she married.   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 21, 2009, 09:07:27 AM
Two orbits later, one not listing more than we had.. 6 bucks later.. Read it and weep.......

Deceased Name: Myles K. Sykes, 61 
 
WELAKA -- Myles Kirby Sykes, 61, a retiree of Florida Department of Agriculture, died Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2002.

A native of Island Grove, he was a longtime resident of Hawthorne. Mr. Sykes was a member of First Baptist Church of Fruitland Park.

Survivors include his wife of 22 years, Annette Sykes, Welaka; son, Ronald Cummings, Crescent City; stepson, Donald Squires, Crescent City; daughters, Teresa Neves, Lady Lake, Melanie Kintzler, Oakfield, Wis., and Crystal Cummings, Wildwood; brothers, Thomas Sykes, Ocala, William Sykes, Opelika, Ala., and James Sykes, Marianna; sisters, Margie Boles, Gainesville, Berniece Woodward, Micanopy, Frances Coullette, Jacksonville, Glenda Miller, Texas and Cora Sue Price, Island Grove; 10 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild.

Masters Funeral Home, Palatka, provided information.


Add two kids I didn't know about.  I think Donald Squires should be a jr if he is GG Sykes' son


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 09:09:17 AM
You would think its monday morning, and my head is spinning..  first the Myles obit is crazy, and second I just realized I was trying to buy Donald Squires too.  Think I need to finish my coffee, anyway, we have a bit more info.. just ignore my references that one is the other..  Maybe I need to go back to bed.....


Hey, at least now we know that Ronald McDonald has a brother..... Donald Squires...  remember Grama.. the brother???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 09:20:17 AM
Two orbits later, one not listing more than we had.. 6 bucks later.. Read it and weep.......

Deceased Name: Myles K. Sykes, 61 
 
WELAKA -- Myles Kirby Sykes, 61, a retiree of Florida Department of Agriculture, died Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2002.

A native of Island Grove, he was a longtime resident of Hawthorne. Mr. Sykes was a member of First Baptist Church of Fruitland Park.

Survivors include his wife of 22 years, Annette Sykes, Welaka; son, Ronald Cummings, Crescent City; stepson, Donald Squires, Crescent City; daughters, Teresa Neves, Lady Lake, Melanie Kintzler, Oakfield, Wis., and Crystal Cummings, Wildwood; brothers, Thomas Sykes, Ocala, William Sykes, Opelika, Ala., and James Sykes, Marianna; sisters, Margie Boles, Gainesville, Berniece Woodward, Micanopy, Frances Coullette, Jacksonville, Glenda Miller, Texas and Cora Sue Price, Island Grove; 10 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild.

Masters Funeral Home, Palatka, provided information.


Add two kids I didn't know about.  I think Donald Squires should be a jr if he is GG Sykes' son

 ::MonkeyConfused:: This thing has my head on backwards..... Okay lets do a check list here, and I will finish my cereal and try to get my brain to working right..  Talk about a dizzy blonde this morning.. and it isn't even blonde just white.. ::MonkeyConfused::

Donald Squires orbit we have with wife and three children must be father of Annette's first husband.
Donald Squires jr  is the first husband.. of Annette.

Myles Sykes is the second husband of Annette.
daughter - Teresa Squires - step daughter to Myles
Son - Donald Squires - stepson to Myles

Teresa Squires has two children
Ronald McDonald cummings
Crystal Cummings.
---------------------> Brothers and sisters listed.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 21, 2009, 09:42:20 AM
Two orbits later, one not listing more than we had.. 6 bucks later.. Read it and weep.......

Deceased Name: Myles K. Sykes, 61 
 
WELAKA -- Myles Kirby Sykes, 61, a retiree of Florida Department of Agriculture, died Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2002.

A native of Island Grove, he was a longtime resident of Hawthorne. Mr. Sykes was a member of First Baptist Church of Fruitland Park.

Survivors include his wife of 22 years, Annette Sykes, Welaka; son, Ronald Cummings, Crescent City; stepson, Donald Squires, Crescent City; daughters, Teresa Neves, Lady Lake, Melanie Kintzler, Oakfield, Wis., and Crystal Cummings, Wildwood; brothers, Thomas Sykes, Ocala, William Sykes, Opelika, Ala., and James Sykes, Marianna; sisters, Margie Boles, Gainesville, Berniece Woodward, Micanopy, Frances Coullette, Jacksonville, Glenda Miller, Texas and Cora Sue Price, Island Grove; 10 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild.

Masters Funeral Home, Palatka, provided information.


Add two kids I didn't know about.  I think Donald Squires should be a jr if he is GG Sykes' son

 ::MonkeyConfused:: This thing has my head on backwards..... Okay lets do a check list here, and I will finish my cereal and try to get my brain to working right..  Talk about a dizzy blonde this morning.. and it isn't even blonde just white.. ::MonkeyConfused::

Donald Squires orbit we have with wife and three children must be father of Annette's first husband.
Donald Squires jr  is the first husband.. of Annette.

Myles Sykes is the second husband of Annette.
daughter - Teresa Squires - step daughter to Myles
Son - Donald Squires - stepson to Myles

Teresa Squires has two children
Ronald McDonald cummings
Crystal Cummings.
---------------------> Brothers and sisters listed.

Thank you mlee!  I am sure with all of the info that was researched mlee would have been able to wirte up the obit, without errors and saved herself 6 bucks.  I have done some genealogy and now one can see how boggled the mind can get, reading all of the incorrect info that was printed.

One thing we all do know for sure.....US MONKEYS ARE ALL RELATED.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 21, 2009, 09:43:38 AM
TxLady2  I don't post at WS but I do admire pirate and ba..me. I don't get these hints and riddles, actually I'm getting mad at it. There is a child missing and could be deceased, and there is game playing on some of the blogs. Now look at this new one, suggesting keeping the family jewels inside the pants and hotel hijinks  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 09:56:44 AM
I just flew in from Topix.....  this is new....

27 min ago
Sami wrote:
<quoted text>
AuntieEm, What? I just looked and couldn't find anything, do you have a link for this. TIA
Sami,

I checked wesh.com and a mans body was found,
nothing about a child in a swamp. I checked fox news on-line, nothing there. I understand from
scaredmonkeys.com that TJhart has sometime to report tommorrow. We need to wait until tomorrow.
IMO

I guess one of our guest... no matter.. Anyone heard anything about a child found in the Swamps??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 21, 2009, 09:57:55 AM
Considering the obit that mlee posted...which is all screwed up....

Donald Squires - I think is a brother to Teresa Squires Neves

Found this -

DONALD ROBERT SQUIRES
CRESCENT CITY,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 7/14/2008 6:43:19 PM  - Booking#: 08-03179
Release Date & Time: 7/14/2008 7:02:52 PM
DOB: 3/20/1961  -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
 

Charges   Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
812.0142C1-3 GRAND THEFT 3RD DEGREE (>$300, <$5,000) F 3  $1,004.00  7/14/2008 7:02:15 PM
        $1,004.00   

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/squires.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 10:03:03 AM
Considering the obit that mlee posted...which is all screwed up....

Donald Squires - I think is a brother to Teresa Squires Neves

Found this -

DONALD ROBERT SQUIRES
CRESCENT CITY,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 7/14/2008 6:43:19 PM  - Booking#: 08-03179
Release Date & Time: 7/14/2008 7:02:52 PM
DOB: 3/20/1961  -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
 

Charges   Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
812.0142C1-3 GRAND THEFT 3RD DEGREE (>$300, <$5,000) F 3  $1,004.00  7/14/2008 7:02:15 PM
        $1,004.00   

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/squires.jpg)

Apples and Trees, and good golly Molly.. I would not want to run to that man even in the day light....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 21, 2009, 10:26:57 AM
Author: Pattylou65  This user is a Descendant of a Confederate Soldier.      (---.sip.jax.bellsouth.net)
Date: July 28th, 2008 11:36:28 AM EST

I live not far from where John Henry Squires is buried. He was buried on his home place near Satsuma, Florida. Some of the family stil lives on the property. They are not sure exactly where he is buried.
It is true that he was shot b;y; him neighbor.
He was the oldest son of John Henry Squires Sr. He was born in Horry Co. S.C.
It is in a district called Dog Bluff. The land was used for tobacco use for man;y
years. I am trying to find a newspaper of criminal report to find out what happened. There was no paper here in 1870 so I am going to try larger surrounding counties.
Appreciate anyhelp. Patty Squires Swilley

http://74.125.45.132/search?q=cache:cMHSGK87SDYJ:www.civilwarflorida.com/site/comments/read_comment.php%3FcommentREF%3D257+donald+squires+palatka+florida&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 21, 2009, 10:31:47 AM
I just flew in from Topix.....  this is new....

27 min ago
Sami wrote:
<quoted text>
AuntieEm, What? I just looked and couldn't find anything, do you have a link for this. TIA
Sami,

I checked wesh.com and a mans body was found,
nothing about a child in a swamp. I checked fox news on-line, nothing there. I understand from
scaredmonkeys.com that TJhart has sometime to report tommorrow. We need to wait until tomorrow.
IMO

I guess one of our guest... no matter.. Anyone heard anything about a child found in the Swamps??

One of the posters over on Topix posted about that yesterday.  Said he/she saw it on Fox News scroller,  but I have not found anything on it.  I have been searching since yesterday.

It will be interesting to know who it is as well as who the young man was that hung himself in jail which was reported yesterday.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 21, 2009, 10:46:37 AM
Well I might be doing something wrong. I'm not sure what but I can't access the older posts. Is it just me?
I can't either what am I doing wrong?
as for family connections going back in thread #3 which is early March, discussions state it's believed annafl is related but not by blood, to Marie, Crystal's mother and that pirate, poster on WS is a "close" relative of Ron's and that is posted by pirate on WS and brought over to SM.

skipping ahead...sorry if this has already been said,,
Annafl was a fake,...she said that she was a relative of Marie's....Marie had said distant, Annafl made it sound as if they were closer...turns out from what was said on WS I believe that she was not related at all...Her real name is Joyanna...I remember that cause I thought that it was an unusual name..
If her "partner" was the  mod on WS...she was  outed by some other members over there...The mod and her previous husband who is still in jail were arrested for molesting HIS children...She did not reveal all of that to the admin on WS which caused them all kinds of embarrassment....of course since she was a convicted child molester on a forum concerning missing children..
I can get these articles if needed....I am going from memory for the moment but I believe that I am accurate...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 10:56:47 AM
Well I might be doing something wrong. I'm not sure what but I can't access the older posts. Is it just me?
I can't either what am I doing wrong?
as for family connections going back in thread #3 which is early March, discussions state it's believed annafl is related but not by blood, to Marie, Crystal's mother and that pirate, poster on WS is a "close" relative of Ron's and that is posted by pirate on WS and brought over to SM.

To tell you the Truth Maureen, I'm wondering who in that little burg is not related to who...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 21, 2009, 11:01:37 AM
You would think its monday morning, and my head is spinning..  first the Myles obit is crazy, and second I just realized I was trying to buy Donald Squires too.  Think I need to finish my coffee, anyway, we have a bit more info.. just ignore my references that one is the other..  Maybe I need to go back to bed.....


Hey, at least now we know that Ronald McDonald has a brother..... Donald Squires...  remember Grama.. the brother???

I am confused...If Donald is Granny's son, wouldn't he be Ron's uncle then?
Teresa is not Donald's mother...Annette is right?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 21, 2009, 11:09:46 AM
Well I might be doing something wrong. I'm not sure what but I can't access the older posts. Is it just me?
I can't either what am I doing wrong?
as for family connections going back in thread #3 which is early March, discussions state it's believed annafl is related but not by blood, to Marie, Crystal's mother and that pirate, poster on WS is a "close" relative of Ron's and that is posted by pirate on WS and brought over to SM.

skipping ahead...sorry if this has already been said,,
Annafl was a fake,...she said that she was a relative of Marie's....Marie had said distant, Annafl made it sound as if they were closer...turns out from what was said on WS I believe that she was not related at all...Her real name is Joyanna...I remember that cause I thought that it was an unusual name..
If her "partner" was the  mod on WS...she was  outed by some other members over there...The mod and her previous husband who is still in jail were arrested for molesting HIS children...She did not reveal all of that to the admin on WS which caused them all kinds of embarrassment....of course since she was a convicted child molester on a forum concerning missing children..
I can get these articles if needed....I am going from memory for the moment but I believe that I am accurate...
thanks Cookie! I remember when annafl was outed as a fake and liar but I hadn't heard about the WS mod SO girlfriend who molested her stepchildren with her then husband/father of those children.....WHAT???????? but it would have to be just that crazy to fit into this case


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 21, 2009, 11:25:52 AM
I just flew in from Topix.....  this is new....

27 min ago
Sami wrote:
<quoted text>
AuntieEm, What? I just looked and couldn't find anything, do you have a link for this. TIA
Sami,

I checked wesh.com and a mans body was found,
nothing about a child in a swamp. I checked fox news on-line, nothing there. I understand from
scaredmonkeys.com that TJhart has sometime to report tommorrow. We need to wait until tomorrow.
IMO

I guess one of our guest... no matter.. Anyone heard anything about a child found in the Swamps??

One of the posters over on Topix posted about that yesterday.  Said he/she saw it on Fox News scroller,  but I have not found anything on it.  I have been searching since yesterday.

It will be interesting to know who it is as well as who the young man was that hung himself in jail which was reported yesterday.
I went to topix to read up about the child found in the swamps. Looks to be a random fly by BS post.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 21, 2009, 11:29:56 AM
Well I might be doing something wrong. I'm not sure what but I can't access the older posts. Is it just me?
I can't either what am I doing wrong?
as for family connections going back in thread #3 which is early March, discussions state it's believed annafl is related but not by blood, to Marie, Crystal's mother and that pirate, poster on WS is a "close" relative of Ron's and that is posted by pirate on WS and brought over to SM.

skipping ahead...sorry if this has already been said,,
Annafl was a fake,...she said that she was a relative of Marie's....Marie had said distant, Annafl made it sound as if they were closer...turns out from what was said on WS I believe that she was not related at all...Her real name is Joyanna...I remember that cause I thought that it was an unusual name..
If her "partner" was the  mod on WS...she was  outed by some other members over there...The mod and her previous husband who is still in jail were arrested for molesting HIS children...She did not reveal all of that to the admin on WS which caused them all kinds of embarrassment....of course since she was a convicted child molester on a forum concerning missing children..
I can get these articles if needed....I am going from memory for the moment but I believe that I am accurate...
That's pretty much what I recall also Cookie.
Does this AnnaFL still post over at WS?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 21, 2009, 11:39:00 AM
No idea Patricia...never go over there...
I tried to join WS but they wouldn't let me join cause of my email addy...can you imagine? their loss right? LOL!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 21, 2009, 11:46:39 AM
No idea Patricia...never go over there...
I tried to join WS but they wouldn't let me join cause of my email addy...can you imagine? their loss right? LOL!
I know huh? They wouldn't let me join for the same reason. Yup I agree...their loss.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 21, 2009, 11:49:39 AM
Well I might be doing something wrong. I'm not sure what but I can't access the older posts. Is it just me?
I can't either what am I doing wrong?
as for family connections going back in thread #3 which is early March, discussions state it's believed annafl is related but not by blood, to Marie, Crystal's mother and that pirate, poster on WS is a "close" relative of Ron's and that is posted by pirate on WS and brought over to SM.

skipping ahead...sorry if this has already been said,,
Annafl was a fake,...she said that she was a relative of Marie's....Marie had said distant, Annafl made it sound as if they were closer...turns out from what was said on WS I believe that she was not related at all...Her real name is Joyanna...I remember that cause I thought that it was an unusual name..
If her "partner" was the  mod on WS...she was  outed by some other members over there...The mod and her previous husband who is still in jail were arrested for molesting HIS children...She did not reveal all of that to the admin on WS which caused them all kinds of embarrassment....of course since she was a convicted child molester on a forum concerning missing children..
I can get these articles if needed....I am going from memory for the moment but I believe that I am accurate...

Actually, anna fl is related to Marie's husband........got that from Marie herself that is why I stated it was distant relationship. Flake YES!!!!!! She was the one who brought in Dominic Casey and Marie had never heard of him, then when she did find out of his antics in Orlando, she wanted NO part of him or Anna FL.

Oh~Good morning Monkeys!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 21, 2009, 12:05:40 PM
Hi IM, how is everything with you today?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 21, 2009, 12:18:50 PM
Well I might be doing something wrong. I'm not sure what but I can't access the older posts. Is it just me?
I can't either what am I doing wrong?
as for family connections going back in thread #3 which is early March, discussions state it's believed annafl is related but not by blood, to Marie, Crystal's mother and that pirate, poster on WS is a "close" relative of Ron's and that is posted by pirate on WS and brought over to SM.

skipping ahead...sorry if this has already been said,,
Annafl was a fake,...she said that she was a relative of Marie's....Marie had said distant, Annafl made it sound as if they were closer...turns out from what was said on WS I believe that she was not related at all...Her real name is Joyanna...I remember that cause I thought that it was an unusual name..
If her "partner" was the  mod on WS...she was  outed by some other members over there...The mod and her previous husband who is still in jail were arrested for molesting HIS children...She did not reveal all of that to the admin on WS which caused them all kinds of embarrassment....of course since she was a convicted child molester on a forum concerning missing children..
I can get these articles if needed....I am going from memory for the moment but I believe that I am accurate...

Actually, anna fl is related to Marie's husband........got that from Marie herself that is why I stated it was distant relationship. Flake YES!!!!!! She was the one who brought in Dominic Casey and Marie had never heard of him, then when she did find out of his antics in Orlando, she wanted NO part of him or Anna FL.

Oh~Good morning Monkeys!!

Hi IS :)  how's baby Elijah doing this morning hun?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 21, 2009, 12:24:48 PM
I just flew in from Topix.....  this is new....

27 min ago
Sami wrote:
<quoted text>
AuntieEm, What? I just looked and couldn't find anything, do you have a link for this. TIA
Sami,

I checked wesh.com and a mans body was found,
nothing about a child in a swamp. I checked fox news on-line, nothing there. I understand from
scaredmonkeys.com that TJhart has sometime to report tommorrow. We need to wait until tomorrow.
IMO

I guess one of our guest... no matter.. Anyone heard anything about a child found in the Swamps??

One of the posters over on Topix posted about that yesterday.  Said he/she saw it on Fox News scroller,  but I have not found anything on it.  I have been searching since yesterday.

It will be interesting to know who it is as well as who the young man was that hung himself in jail which was reported yesterday.
I went to topix to read up about the child found in the swamps. Looks to be a random fly by BS post.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

It was not posted as a child.  IIrc, it was posted as a man.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 21, 2009, 12:37:41 PM
You would think its monday morning, and my head is spinning..  first the Myles obit is crazy, and second I just realized I was trying to buy Donald Squires too.  Think I need to finish my coffee, anyway, we have a bit more info.. just ignore my references that one is the other..  Maybe I need to go back to bed.....


Hey, at least now we know that Ronald McDonald has a brother..... Donald Squires...  remember Grama.. the brother???

I am confused...If Donald is Granny's son, wouldn't he be Ron's uncle then?
Teresa is not Donald's mother...Annette is right?
I'm getting so mixed up with all the relatives  ::MonkeyConfused:: And I too am beginning to wonder if more then half the town isn't related.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 21, 2009, 12:39:21 PM
Island, hope the little one is doing better  ::MonkeyAngel::  AnnaFl was banned awhile ago at WS.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 21, 2009, 12:44:31 PM
Man found in landfill
died naturally

Updated: Wednesday, 20 May 2009, 7:54 PM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 19 May 2009, 4:14 PM EDT

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - Investigators have concluded that a body found in a Volusia County landfill is adult male who died of natural causes.

The Volusia County Medical Examiner conducted an autopsy on Wednesday, a day after the body was discovered at the Tomoka Landfill just west of Daytona Beach.  Workders found the body just before 2 p.m. as they were  sorting through recycling materials.

The body was in an advanced state of decomposition.  Though the gender has been identified, investigators do not yet have a name of the victim.   An investigation into how the body ended up at the landfill is being conducted by Volusia County deputies.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/volusia_news/052009body_in_landfill


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 21, 2009, 12:50:53 PM
I just flew in from Topix.....  this is new....

27 min ago
Sami wrote:
<quoted text>
AuntieEm, What? I just looked and couldn't find anything, do you have a link for this. TIA
Sami,

I checked wesh.com and a mans body was found,
nothing about a child in a swamp. I checked fox news on-line, nothing there. I understand from
scaredmonkeys.com that TJhart has sometime to report tommorrow. We need to wait until tomorrow.
IMO

I guess one of our guest... no matter.. Anyone heard anything about a child found in the Swamps??

One of the posters over on Topix posted about that yesterday.  Said he/she saw it on Fox News scroller,  but I have not found anything on it.  I have been searching since yesterday.

It will be interesting to know who it is as well as who the young man was that hung himself in jail which was reported yesterday.
I went to topix to read up about the child found in the swamps. Looks to be a random fly by BS post.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

It was not posted as a child.  IIrc, it was posted as a man.
I searched back and found a post that was saying that on Fox news a banner was at the bottom of the screen saying a child was found in the swamp. There were no other posts about it prior to that one... but many followed.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 21, 2009, 01:11:22 PM
O/T  BLUE BARREL found near where woman's body found floatin in IL - 

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/wildcard_10/PetersonLink


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 21, 2009, 01:11:37 PM
Man found in landfill
died naturally

Updated: Wednesday, 20 May 2009, 7:54 PM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 19 May 2009, 4:14 PM EDT

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - Investigators have concluded that a body found in a Volusia County landfill is adult male who died of natural causes.

The Volusia County Medical Examiner conducted an autopsy on Wednesday, a day after the body was discovered at the Tomoka Landfill just west of Daytona Beach.  Workders found the body just before 2 p.m. as they were  sorting through recycling materials.

The body was in an advanced state of decomposition.  Though the gender has been identified, investigators do not yet have a name of the victim.   An investigation into how the body ended up at the landfill is being conducted by Volusia County deputies.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/volusia_news/052009body_in_landfill

If the body was in advanced state of decomposition, how do they know that it was "natural causes"? ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 21, 2009, 01:16:10 PM
O/T  BLUE BARREL found near where woman's body found floatin in IL - 

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/wildcard_10/PetersonLink

Uh oh, sounds like Drew and his bling is in more trouble.   ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 21, 2009, 01:19:34 PM
Hi IM, how is everything with you today?

Pretty good Maureen, at work and jumping threads between here and Stacy P/Savio thread ::MonkeyConfused:: How are you today?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: SuzieQ on May 21, 2009, 01:20:54 PM
Man found in landfill
died naturally

Updated: Wednesday, 20 May 2009, 7:54 PM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 19 May 2009, 4:14 PM EDT

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - Investigators have concluded that a body found in a Volusia County landfill is adult male who died of natural causes.

The Volusia County Medical Examiner conducted an autopsy on Wednesday, a day after the body was discovered at the Tomoka Landfill just west of Daytona Beach.  Workders found the body just before 2 p.m. as they were  sorting through recycling materials.

The body was in an advanced state of decomposition.  Though the gender has been identified, investigators do not yet have a name of the victim.   An investigation into how the body ended up at the landfill is being conducted by Volusia County deputies.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/volusia_news/052009body_in_landfill

If the body was in advanced state of decomposition, how do they know that it was "natural causes"? ::MonkeyConfused::



This sounds like Aruba! What did he do?  Died of natural causes, than put himself in a dumpster? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 21, 2009, 01:21:46 PM
O/T  BLUE BARREL found near where woman's body found floatin in IL - 

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/wildcard_10/PetersonLink

Uh oh, sounds like Drew and his bling is in more trouble.   ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

this could be the break that they need to keep this creep in jail forever....
looks like his half/step? brother was telling the truth..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 21, 2009, 01:22:26 PM
Well I might be doing something wrong. I'm not sure what but I can't access the older posts. Is it just me?
I can't either what am I doing wrong?
as for family connections going back in thread #3 which is early March, discussions state it's believed annafl is related but not by blood, to Marie, Crystal's mother and that pirate, poster on WS is a "close" relative of Ron's and that is posted by pirate on WS and brought over to SM.

skipping ahead...sorry if this has already been said,,
Annafl was a fake,...she said that she was a relative of Marie's....Marie had said distant, Annafl made it sound as if they were closer...turns out from what was said on WS I believe that she was not related at all...Her real name is Joyanna...I remember that cause I thought that it was an unusual name..
If her "partner" was the  mod on WS...she was  outed by some other members over there...The mod and her previous husband who is still in jail were arrested for molesting HIS children...She did not reveal all of that to the admin on WS which caused them all kinds of embarrassment....of course since she was a convicted child molester on a forum concerning missing children..
I can get these articles if needed....I am going from memory for the moment but I believe that I am accurate...

Actually, anna fl is related to Marie's husband........got that from Marie herself that is why I stated it was distant relationship. Flake YES!!!!!! She was the one who brought in Dominic Casey and Marie had never heard of him, then when she did find out of his antics in Orlando, she wanted NO part of him or Anna FL.

Oh~Good morning Monkeys!!

Hi IS :)  how's baby Elijah doing this morning hun?

Thanks for asking, he is better because they gave him steroids (which is a double edged sword in Micro Preemies, but it had to be done. I swear I'm on a crazy train headed straight to psycho - ville!!!! But, I gave him to God a long time ago and his has been faithful ever since, so I will continue to pray and ask for prayers, and just like Peaches would say, "I am expecting a miracle"!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 21, 2009, 01:25:20 PM
Island, hope the little one is doing better  ::MonkeyAngel::  AnnaFl was banned awhile ago at WS.

Thanks Rosie, he is but it is a wait and see game ............and I'm not a patient person, so it's tough but not as bad for me as my daughter as I have work/crazy life to distract me, and she doesn't have any of those things......Thanks for asking!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 21, 2009, 01:26:31 PM
O/T  BLUE BARREL found near where woman's body found floatin in IL - 

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/wildcard_10/PetersonLink

Uh oh, sounds like Drew and his bling is in more trouble.   ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::
Yes, it does  ::MonkeyNoNo::  Thanks for the article about the dead man at the landfill. How many natural deaths end up at a landfill?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 21, 2009, 01:28:30 PM
Island, hope the little one is doing better  ::MonkeyAngel::  AnnaFl was banned awhile ago at WS.

Thanks Rosie, he is but it is a wait and see game ............and I'm not a patient person, so it's tough but not as bad for me as my daughter as I have work/crazy life to distract me, and she doesn't have any of those things......Thanks for asking!
I will continue my prayers for Elijah and your family  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 21, 2009, 01:31:48 PM
Well I might be doing something wrong. I'm not sure what but I can't access the older posts. Is it just me?
I can't either what am I doing wrong?
as for family connections going back in thread #3 which is early March, discussions state it's believed annafl is related but not by blood, to Marie, Crystal's mother and that pirate, poster on WS is a "close" relative of Ron's and that is posted by pirate on WS and brought over to SM.

skipping ahead...sorry if this has already been said,,
Annafl was a fake,...she said that she was a relative of Marie's....Marie had said distant, Annafl made it sound as if they were closer...turns out from what was said on WS I believe that she was not related at all...Her real name is Joyanna...I remember that cause I thought that it was an unusual name..
If her "partner" was the  mod on WS...she was  outed by some other members over there...The mod and her previous husband who is still in jail were arrested for molesting HIS children...She did not reveal all of that to the admin on WS which caused them all kinds of embarrassment....of course since she was a convicted child molester on a forum concerning missing children..
I can get these articles if needed....I am going from memory for the moment but I believe that I am accurate...

Actually, anna fl is related to Marie's husband........got that from Marie herself that is why I stated it was distant relationship. Flake YES!!!!!! She was the one who brought in Dominic Casey and Marie had never heard of him, then when she did find out of his antics in Orlando, she wanted NO part of him or Anna FL.

Oh~Good morning Monkeys!!

Hi IS :)  how's baby Elijah doing this morning hun?

Thanks for asking, he is better because they gave him steroids (which is a double edged sword in Micro Preemies, but it had to be done. I swear I'm on a crazy train headed straight to psycho - ville!!!! But, I gave him to God a long time ago and his has been faithful ever since, so I will continue to pray and ask for prayers, and just like Peaches would say, "I am expecting a miracle"!
AWE. He is one tough little man for sure!
I love Peaches saying and I'm right there with ya on that!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 21, 2009, 01:36:07 PM
I just went into a search engine and found this,

SYKES, D
SYKES, ANNETTE D Crescent City, FL
Lady Lake, FL
Pomona Park, FL
Welaka, FL
Possible relatives or associates,
SYKES, MYLES K
ARBUCKLE, KATRINA M
SYKES, ANNETTE
SYKES, MYLES
SYKES, KATHERIN H
SYKES, ERWIN D
SYKES, SYKES


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 21, 2009, 01:55:50 PM
Interesting maybe?
http://genforum.genealogy.com/sykes/messages/2.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 21, 2009, 01:57:49 PM
O/T

Because we love our children and because you wonderful monkeys work so hard at finding the little lost ones....I'm posting one of my favorite YouTubes.  This is a new one.  Enjoy and have a great day. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2p5augniQA


Where's Haleigh Cummings???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 21, 2009, 01:58:21 PM
Found this on white pages.  There maybe more than one Katrina / Katherine Sykes.  The records maybe just all jumbled together.

Katrina ArbuckleKatrina M Arbuckle
Katrina Belcher
Katrina Coc Belcher
Katrina Eric Belcher
Katrina M Belcher
Katrina S Belcher
Katrina Sykes Belcher
Katrina M Bra
Katrina Bramham
Katrina M Bramham
Katrina Branam
Katrina M Branham
Katrina Sykes
Katrina M Sykes


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 21, 2009, 02:01:06 PM
O/T  BLUE BARREL found near where woman's body found floatin in IL - 

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/wildcard_10/PetersonLink

Uh oh, sounds like Drew and his bling is in more trouble.   ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::
Yes, it does  ::MonkeyNoNo::  Thanks for the article about the dead man at the landfill. How many natural deaths end up at a landfill?

Well, a lot of folks die in their ...BED!!!  Wasn't there some comment made about Chad Reynolds saying that he would end up in a dumpster/landfill...or something to that....now don't quote me on exact words.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: alagary on May 21, 2009, 02:02:42 PM
O/t  the boy buried in the New Mexico sand box , his mother did it
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090521/ap_on_re_us/us_playground_body


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 21, 2009, 02:05:46 PM
Hi IM, how is everything with you today?

Pretty good Maureen, at work and jumping threads between here and Stacy P/Savio thread ::MonkeyConfused:: How are you today?
I'm great but can't find my tent ugh it's got to be here..... how's the baby?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 21, 2009, 02:06:05 PM
O/T  BLUE BARREL found near where woman's body found floatin in IL - 

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/wildcard_10/PetersonLink

Uh oh, sounds like Drew and his bling is in more trouble.   ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::
Yes, it does  ::MonkeyNoNo::  Thanks for the article about the dead man at the landfill. How many natural deaths end up at a landfill?

Well, a lot of folks die in their ...BED!!!  Wasn't there some comment made about Chad Reynolds saying that he would end up in a dumpster/landfill...or something to that....now don't quote me on exact words.
Yes there was a comment about Chad waiting in a dumpster, maybe he did die and he will never be found. Lot of people are fortunate enough to die peacefully in their bed, it just struck me odd, how this poor man ended up in a landfill  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 21, 2009, 02:06:18 PM
O/t  the boy buried in the New Mexico sand box , his mother did it
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090521/ap_on_re_us/us_playground_body

I saw that about the same time you did alagary.  :(
Can't believe it.  Can't understand what is going on... can't wrap my brain around why... :(


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 21, 2009, 02:14:14 PM
Just a heads up for those that were questioning Pirate on WS.....she is not a family memeber of Rons at all!

Who is she???

Pirate is a local woman who is unrelated to anyone in this case as far as I know, being a local she just hears things. She is very nice, and was tickled last week when folks thought she was Jerry Santos. My name over there is the same as here, cept with numbers behind it. I have talked to both badme and pirate in PMs over there and both are very nice and care about this case very much.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 21, 2009, 02:15:04 PM
Hi IM, how is everything with you today?

Pretty good Maureen, at work and jumping threads between here and Stacy P/Savio thread ::MonkeyConfused:: How are you today?
I'm great but can't find my tent ugh it's got to be here..... how's the baby?


Waiting to get another update, they weaned him quite a bit from his oscillator and oxygen needs last night and according to my daughter they hope to have him on CPAP within 24 -36v hrs, which is a HUGE step! So far, so good.........but, as always I will continue to ask for prayers!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 21, 2009, 02:16:40 PM
Interesting maybe?
http://genforum.genealogy.com/sykes/messages/2.html

Long time ago posting looking for the info.  Well, wonder if they would want an update as to what he scene plays at this time.  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 21, 2009, 02:21:29 PM
Hi IM, how is everything with you today?

Pretty good Maureen, at work and jumping threads between here and Stacy P/Savio thread ::MonkeyConfused:: How are you today?
I'm great but can't find my tent ugh it's got to be here..... how's the baby?


Waiting to get another update, they weaned him quite a bit from his oscillator and oxygen needs last night and according to my daughter they hope to have him on CPAP within 24 -36v hrs, which is a HUGE step! So far, so good.........but, as always I will continue to ask for prayers!!

well rest easy I continue to pray!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 21, 2009, 02:26:11 PM
O/t  the boy buried in the New Mexico sand box , his mother did it
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090521/ap_on_re_us/us_playground_body

I saw that about the same time you did alagary.  :(
Can't believe it.  Can't understand what is going on... can't wrap my brain around why... :(
the story has updated and now says the mother suffocated him, had second thoughts, revived him with CPR then decided to suffocate him again~what's wrong with people??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 02:28:23 PM
O/t  the boy buried in the New Mexico sand box , his mother did it
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090521/ap_on_re_us/us_playground_body

That absolutely breaks my heart.. How anyone could be so cold and ruthless, he died in his sleep.. She revived  him and then held her hands over his little nose and mouth and made him suffer into death.  You know that she is not going to walk away from this in any easy way, shape or form...  All she had to do was walk him up to a Church and put his little hand in a Minister's, Priest what ever, and then just walk away..  It is so easy to just give a child to the State..  She never had to take him home from the hospital at birth. I just don't understand how people can be so cold hearted and ruthless.  She is no different than Casey Anthony.  Both are the problems in this world, not the children.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 21, 2009, 02:30:59 PM
Found this on white pages.  There maybe more than one Katrina / Katherine Sykes.  The records maybe just all jumbled together.

Katrina ArbuckleKatrina M Arbuckle
Katrina Belcher
Katrina Coc Belcher
Katrina Eric Belcher
Katrina M Belcher
Katrina S Belcher
Katrina Sykes Belcher
Katrina M Bra
Katrina Bramham
Katrina M Bramham
Katrina Branam
Katrina M Branham
Katrina Sykes
Katrina M Sykes


John Welfenberg
      Palatka , FL
 John D Arbuckle


I think it was stated that Annette Sykes maiden name was Welfenberg.  I seen a Welfenberg with relatives as Arbuckle....This maybe Annette's side of the family before marriage, and could very well be a daughter with the same first name that married an Arbuckle.

Guess it is not important, but nonetheless here it is.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 21, 2009, 02:31:12 PM
Hi IM, how is everything with you today?

Pretty good Maureen, at work and jumping threads between here and Stacy P/Savio thread ::MonkeyConfused:: How are you today?
I'm great but can't find my tent ugh it's got to be here..... how's the baby?


Waiting to get another update, they weaned him quite a bit from his oscillator and oxygen needs last night and according to my daughter they hope to have him on CPAP within 24 -36v hrs, which is a HUGE step! So far, so good.........but, as always I will continue to ask for prayers!!

well rest easy I continue to pray!!!!!!!!

I'm going to try tonight an get some rest, had account in town last night and son had his baseball party, so going to sleep around 7pm sounds great! thanks again for the continued faithul prayers.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 02:34:09 PM
Hi IM, how is everything with you today?

Pretty good Maureen, at work and jumping threads between here and Stacy P/Savio thread ::MonkeyConfused:: How are you today?
I'm great but can't find my tent ugh it's got to be here..... how's the baby?


Waiting to get another update, they weaned him quite a bit from his oscillator and oxygen needs last night and according to my daughter they hope to have him on CPAP within 24 -36v hrs, which is a HUGE step! So far, so good.........but, as always I will continue to ask for prayers!!


IM, remind me how premie was he at birth, and how old is he now??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 21, 2009, 02:34:10 PM
O/t  the boy buried in the New Mexico sand box , his mother did it
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090521/ap_on_re_us/us_playground_body

I saw that about the same time you did alagary.  :(
Can't believe it.  Can't understand what is going on... can't wrap my brain around why... :(
the story has updated and now says the mother suffocated him, had second thoughts, revived him with CPR then decided to suffocate him again~what's wrong with people??

It's horrible. I can't understand people, how could anyone do anything like that. It's so sad


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 02:39:56 PM
The Mother who killed her son in Albuquerque,  she and the child were homeless and transient.. She made the decision that she didn't want her son to grow up, alone and with no one to love or care for him..  She has tried to committed suicide twice since she was arrested.  Albuquerque PD..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: rosebud on May 21, 2009, 02:58:48 PM
I have a question, please? Is AnnaFla., Donna Sue over at Topix? Also, who is Murt?
You monkeys are so smart i knew if anyone would know it would be you monks. TIA ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 21, 2009, 03:00:32 PM
Hi IM, how is everything with you today?

Pretty good Maureen, at work and jumping threads between here and Stacy P/Savio thread ::MonkeyConfused:: How are you today?
I'm great but can't find my tent ugh it's got to be here..... how's the baby?


Waiting to get another update, they weaned him quite a bit from his oscillator and oxygen needs last night and according to my daughter they hope to have him on CPAP within 24 -36v hrs, which is a HUGE step! So far, so good.........but, as always I will continue to ask for prayers!!


IM, remind me how premie was he at birth, and how old is he now??

He was a 23 weeker, and he is 8 weeks old today...........he's had pneumonia, heart surgery where they had to collapse his lung and NEC twice and a IVH so far, and yet he still keeps fighting and has great motor skills so far.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 21, 2009, 03:01:06 PM
I have a question, please? Is AnnaFla., Donna Sue over at Topix? Also, who is Murt?
You monkeys are so smart i knew if anyone would know it would be you monks. TIA ::MonkeyAngel::

Not sure about Donna Sue, I don't go to Topix much, that place is terrible. I had to ask about Murt a while back as I was clueless also, I was told that he is someone who inserts himself into these kinds of cases.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: rosebud on May 21, 2009, 03:06:00 PM
I don't like it over at Topix, myself. I never post. They seem to bicker constantly, and get very ugly. That's why I like it here. You monkeys are all so nice and considerate to everyone. Not to mention so informative.
Monkeys Rule    ::MonkeyDance::                       ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: leslee on May 21, 2009, 03:06:18 PM
I have a question, please? Is AnnaFla., Donna Sue over at Topix? Also, who is Murt?
You monkeys are so smart i knew if anyone would know it would be you monks. TIA ::MonkeyAngel::

AnnaFl pretended to be someone she was not....with "inside" info on the Haleigh case. Donna Sue I have no clue and Murt ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: basically tries to interject himself into missing childrens cases, has a "news" van, filmed Padilla at Blanchard Park always made it sound like he was privy to inside information. Had his site "hacked", I could go on and on, basically a harmless nut IMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: darla on May 21, 2009, 03:17:42 PM
Trust me ...Donna Sue is not Annafl.

Good Afternoon Monkeys and guest!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 21, 2009, 03:24:26 PM
Trust me ...Donna Sue is not Annafl.

Good Afternoon Monkeys and guest!
Good Afternoon,  ::MonkeyHaHa:: yes Donna Sue is not Annafl.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 21, 2009, 03:28:19 PM
I don't like it over at Topix, myself. I never post. They seem to bicker constantly, and get very ugly. That's why I like it here. You monkeys are all so nice and considerate to everyone. Not to mention so informative.
Monkeys Rule    ::MonkeyDance::                       ::cartwheel::

I agree with you 150% about your Topix comments.  I had first registered when the Anthony case came to life.  At first it wasn't too bad, everyone was discussing the evidence, etc.  Further down the line, it was getting very difficult to even see what everyone was babbling about.  The posts were being nothing more than constant digging, nagging, trying their darnest to ridicule other posters.  Threads were being pulled left and right.  It didn't center around the case at all, it became more of which poster slammed who, and who had better digs. 

Every now and then I head back to check and it has gotten worse.  It is nothing more than a constant poster to poster battle.  If they were smart, they would just shut the whole darn thing down, as nothing is getting discussed other than who is smarter Joe poster or Pete poster.

I haven't even took a look to see how the Haleigh thread is doing, guess I am afraid to.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 21, 2009, 03:43:03 PM
Two orbits later, one not listing more than we had.. 6 bucks later.. Read it and weep.......

Deceased Name: Myles K. Sykes, 61 
 
WELAKA -- Myles Kirby Sykes, 61, a retiree of Florida Department of Agriculture, died Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2002.

A native of Island Grove, he was a longtime resident of Hawthorne. Mr. Sykes was a member of First Baptist Church of Fruitland Park.

Survivors include his wife of 22 years, Annette Sykes, Welaka; son, Ronald Cummings, Crescent City; stepson, Donald Squires, Crescent City; daughters, Teresa Neves, Lady Lake, Melanie Kintzler, Oakfield, Wis., and Crystal Cummings, Wildwood; brothers, Thomas Sykes, Ocala, William Sykes, Opelika, Ala., and James Sykes, Marianna; sisters, Margie Boles, Gainesville, Berniece Woodward, Micanopy, Frances Coullette, Jacksonville, Glenda Miller, Texas and Cora Sue Price, Island Grove; 10 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild.

Masters Funeral Home, Palatka, provided information.


This is awesome....you need a monkey star!!!....I was making myself crazy seraching for this obit....wanted to go outside and scrub my forehead up and down the sidewalk!....okay here we go...

https://www.myfloridacounty.com/serv/MyFloridaCounty/ORI/Order

SYKES MYLES K;
WELFENBERG DOROTHY A
NO GRANTEE INDEXED 07/10/1979 MARRIAGE RECORD ALACHUA 474958 1219/282 1

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&gsfn=robert&gsln=welfenberg&=&gsby=&gsb2co=1%2CAll+Countries&gsb2pl=1%2C+&gsdy=&gsd2co=1%2CAll+Countries&gsd2pl=1%2C+&=&=&=&sbo=0&sbor=&srchb=r&prox=1&db=&ti=0&ti.si=0&gl=allgs&gss=asrf&gst=34&so=3

Name:  Robert Bing Welfenberg
Spouse:  Dorothy Annette Squires
Marriage:  date - St Louis

 Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997
Name:  Teresa Annette Squires
Father:  Joe Stephen Squires
Birth:  date - Dallas

looks like Joe Stephen Squires was Dorothy Sykes first husband if we can find the marriage record for this we should have her maiden name....
maiden name ?,Squires,Welfenberg,Sykes......maybe it is listed in the Texas marriages?....unless he moved there after they seperated ? I think that Donald Squires is Dorothy's son (he resembles her in his pic),Teresa's brother  and that Jason Squires is Donald Squires son which would make him Ronalds cousin.....
::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 21, 2009, 03:43:46 PM
we need a what's wrong with people thread...
a man and woman got into an argument in a car outside of Tampa Fl, the man snatched up the woman's baby and threw him out the window, he is not the father, the baby has died.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: little lulu on May 21, 2009, 03:46:35 PM
O/T  BLUE BARREL found near where woman's body found floatin in IL - 

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/wildcard_10/PetersonLink
I wonder how smug he will look in the next news shot...hope they put him in general population with his bling and let the other prisoners have at him.

Am in awe of everyone here and all the research going on,  have a hard time following at times but I salute each and every one of you and all the work you've put in trying to find Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 21, 2009, 04:37:54 PM
Just read this on Topix. (Could be bogus?)

guest
Palatka, FL
 Reply »
#34654 23 min ago
Has anyone been listening to 97.3? I just got a call from someone who said they heard on there that there was going to be an arrest within the hour? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 21, 2009, 04:38:21 PM
we need a what's wrong with people thread...
a man and woman got into an argument in a car outside of Tampa Fl, the man snatched up the woman's baby and threw him out the window, he is not the father, the baby has died.
   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 21, 2009, 04:40:37 PM
Just read this on Topix. (Could be bogus?)

guest
Palatka, FL
 Reply »
#34654 23 min ago
Has anyone been listening to 97.3? I just got a call from someone who said they heard on there that there was going to be an arrest within the hour? 
The way the day is going, little boy in Albuqueque has been identified, mother arrested. Looks very close to finding little Tori's remains, could be Stacey P or Lisa S body found in Illinois, it would not surprise me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 04:49:17 PM
Hi IM, how is everything with you today?

Pretty good Maureen, at work and jumping threads between here and Stacy P/Savio thread ::MonkeyConfused:: How are you today?

He is still having problems with his lung development?  8 weeks is a good sign, and his fighting is the best..  Here is a site to lift your heart....  http://twomiracles.blogspot.com/
I'm great but can't find my tent ugh it's got to be here..... how's the baby?


Waiting to get another update, they weaned him quite a bit from his oscillator and oxygen needs last night and according to my daughter they hope to have him on CPAP within 24 -36v hrs, which is a HUGE step! So far, so good.........but, as always I will continue to ask for prayers!!


IM, remind me how premie was he at birth, and how old is he now??

He was a 23 weeker, and he is 8 weeks old today...........he's had pneumonia, heart surgery where they had to collapse his lung and NEC twice and a IVH so far, and yet he still keeps fighting and has great motor skills so far.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 21, 2009, 04:50:45 PM
Is it Rainey there in Palatka today I wonder?
I sure hope they are able to search and get this mystery solved!
Today would be a great day to bring little Haleigh back to those who love her.

~We are saying prayers for you baby girl~


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 04:51:59 PM
Story of my life.. it cut me off....... I really did have a response.

I said, 

He is still having problems with lung developemnt?  Being 8 weeks is a very good sign also he is a fighter and that is a great sign.... Wanted to leave you with a site, to lift your heart...  http://twomiracles.blogspot.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 21, 2009, 04:54:37 PM
WHAT THE???????????????????

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 04:58:35 PM
we need a what's wrong with people thread...
a man and woman got into an argument in a car outside of Tampa Fl, the man snatched up the woman's baby and threw him out the window, he is not the father, the baby has died.
   ::MonkeyNoNo::

And so shall he... lethal injection.......  Don't know what the f....... is wrong with people.. Murder of children, murder of wives, drugs, abuse, always angry and wanting to start a fight, look at the blind woman attacked on the bus..  is it in the water??

Tell you.. the best way I deal with people..  I go outside and dig up bushes and garden.. by the time I come in, I have forgotten what the mad was all about.  Going to hit the news and see if something is going to happen in Florida today.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 21, 2009, 05:00:04 PM
WHAT THE???????????????????

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

Cobra was right about one thing and that's a fact!
The LE ARE trying to run Cobra out of town!
WHAT IS GOING ON HERE????
I have one thing to say to the LE in that town...LET COBRA GO!!!!
He's one of the only ones who have gone the extra steps to try to find Haleigh and this is how they are going to do him?

I just don't understand this mess.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 21, 2009, 05:03:08 PM
WHAT THE???????????????????

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php


FLASH----P.I./Bondsman/Surety Agent William "Cobra" Staubs To Surrender To Police

Thursday, May 21, 2009 3:32 pm, Thursday, I received a telephone call from private investigator/bondsman/surety agent William Eugene "Cobra" Staubs.  The man was obviously shaken.

Staubs told me he had been informed by an offical at the Putnam County Florida Sheriff's Office that a warrant for his arrest would be on the teletype within the hour.

After a second or two of silence, I asked Staubs why on earth would he be wanted by the sheriff's office.  Staubs told me the that warrant was for false imprisonment.

I remembered that Staubs was accused of illegally detaining a Putnam County man who was free on bail on a sex abuse charge several weeks ago.

Last month, deputies say Staubs apprehended and handcuffed William Snodgrass, 55, who in 2007 was charged with capital sexual battery of a 9-year-old girl. Snodgrass was held for an hour, deputies added.

The allegation was being reviewed by local prosecutors until apparently now.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office has not returned our calls.

Staubs told me he will be tuning himself in at the Putnam County Jail Friday at 9 am ET.

Staubs added that he plans to be out of jail within minutes of his surrender and will be attending the Blue Crab Festival in Palatka this weekend.

http://www.thesky973.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 05:06:14 PM
Boy the SO is really on the ball....... when it comes to other things not to much on the Ball.....




http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

P.I./Bondsman/Surety Agent William "Cobra" Staubs To Surrender To Police

Thursday, May 21, 2009 3:32 pm, Thursday, I received a telephone call from private investigator/bondsman/surety agent William Eugene "Cobra" Staubs.  The man was obviously shaken.

Staubs told me he had been informed by an offical at the Putnam County Florida Sheriff's Office that a warrant for his arrest would be on the teletype within the hour.

After a second or two of silence, I asked Staubs why on earth would he be wanted by the sheriff's office.  Staubs told me the that warrant was for false imprisonment.

I remembered that Staubs was accused of illegally detaining a Putnam County man who was free on bail on a sex abuse charge several weeks ago.

Last month, deputies say Staubs apprehended and handcuffed William Snodgrass, 55, who in 2007 was charged with capital sexual battery of a 9-year-old girl. Snodgrass was held for an hour, deputies added.

The allegation was being reviewed by local prosecutors until apparently now.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office has not returned our calls.

Staubs told me he will be tuning himself in at the Putnam County Jail Friday at 9 am ET.

Staubs added that he plans to be out of jail within minutes of his surrender and will be attending the Blue Crab Festival in Palatka this weekend.

 REPORTER'S NOTES 5/20/2009  -- It Just Gets Stranger by the Minute

This past Sunday, The National Vigil for Hope 2009 was held in several communities throught the nation.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 21, 2009, 05:16:43 PM
WHAT THE???????????????????

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php
Well, there's the arrest that was being talked about  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 21, 2009, 05:17:57 PM
SHAVAN  DAWNISE  LAWSON
PALATKA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/21/2009 5:09:29 PM  - Booking#: 09-02080
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 5/10/1989 -  RACE: B  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
782.04-2   HOMICIDE-WILLFUL KILL MURDER NOT PREMEDITATED NO FELONY OFFENSE   F   F    $0.00    
                $0.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754225&IMG=30622


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 21, 2009, 05:18:26 PM
WHAT THE???????????????????

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php


FLASH----P.I./Bondsman/Surety Agent William "Cobra" Staubs To Surrender To Police

Thursday, May 21, 2009 3:32 pm, Thursday, I received a telephone call from private investigator/bondsman/surety agent William Eugene "Cobra" Staubs.  The man was obviously shaken.

Staubs told me he had been informed by an offical at the Putnam County Florida Sheriff's Office that a warrant for his arrest would be on the teletype within the hour.

After a second or two of silence, I asked Staubs why on earth would he be wanted by the sheriff's office.  Staubs told me the that warrant was for false imprisonment.

I remembered that Staubs was accused of illegally detaining a Putnam County man who was free on bail on a sex abuse charge several weeks ago.

Last month, deputies say Staubs apprehended and handcuffed William Snodgrass, 55, who in 2007 was charged with capital sexual battery of a 9-year-old girl. Snodgrass was held for an hour, deputies added.

The allegation was being reviewed by local prosecutors until apparently now.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office has not returned our calls.

Staubs told me he will be tuning himself in at the Putnam County Jail Friday at 9 am ET.

Staubs added that he plans to be out of jail within minutes of his surrender and will be attending the Blue Crab Festival in Palatka this weekend.

http://www.thesky973.com/

OMG this is crazy!!!!.......get the bus ready and I'll make the pickett signs....we need to protest!!!! ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 21, 2009, 05:20:25 PM
Haleigh Update: P.I. Cobra Staubs To Surrender To Police

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 21, 2009, 05:31:29 PM
Haleigh Update: P.I. Cobra Staubs To Surrender To Police

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

Guess Snottygrass made a complaint. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 21, 2009, 05:33:28 PM
Name: Myles K Sykes
Birth Date: 27 November 1940
Death Date: 23 January 2002 
Issuing State: Florida
Residence at Death: Crescent City,Putnam,Florida 32112
Satsuma Cemetery, Putnam, Florida



From his social security.. yep.. I don't understand why Ancestry doesn't have his obit listed.






--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=harzed&id=I23289


Liviing "Stallings"
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Florida Divorce Index, 1927-2001

Name: Robert B Welfenberg

Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Dorothy
Divorce Date: 18 Dec 1979
County: Putnam
Certificate Number: 069137



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 21, 2009, 05:39:30 PM
I see a new Monkey in the cage...WELCOME seahorse

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/dfjg.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: little lulu on May 21, 2009, 05:39:47 PM
WHAT THE???????????????????

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

Cobra was right about one thing and that's a fact!
The LE ARE trying to run Cobra out of town!
WHAT IS GOING ON HERE????
I have one thing to say to the LE in that town...LET COBRA GO!!!!
He's one of the only ones who have gone the extra steps to try to find Haleigh and this is how they are going to do him?

I just don't understand this mess.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


This is just CRAZY....one person that is truly trying to find Haliegh and LE is after him....this is sickning .
But I don't know why I am so surprised....this makes about as much sense as anything else does in this case.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 21, 2009, 05:41:14 PM
(http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv267/Maven2379/Haleighpatriotic.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 21, 2009, 05:43:07 PM
Name: Myles K Sykes
Birth Date: 27 November 1940
Death Date: 23 January 2002 
Issuing State: Florida
Residence at Death: Crescent City,Putnam,Florida 32112
Satsuma Cemetery, Putnam, Florida



From his social security.. yep.. I don't understand why Ancestry doesn't have his obit listed.
Two orbits later, one not listing more than we had.. 6 bucks later.. Read it and weep.......

Deceased Name: Myles K. Sykes, 61 
 
WELAKA -- Myles Kirby Sykes, 61, a retiree of Florida Department of Agriculture, died Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2002.

A native of Island Grove, he was a longtime resident of Hawthorne. Mr. Sykes was a member of First Baptist Church of Fruitland Park.

Survivors include his wife of 22 years, Annette Sykes, Welaka; son, Ronald Cummings, Crescent City; stepson, Donald Squires, Crescent City; daughters, Teresa Neves, Lady Lake, Melanie Kintzler, Oakfield, Wis., and Crystal Cummings, Wildwood; brothers, Thomas Sykes, Ocala, William Sykes, Opelika, Ala., and James Sykes, Marianna; sisters, Margie Boles, Gainesville, Berniece Woodward, Micanopy, Frances Coullette, Jacksonville, Glenda Miller, Texas and Cora Sue Price, Island Grove; 10 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild.

Masters Funeral Home, Palatka, provided information.


This is awesome....you need a monkey star!!!....I was making myself crazy seraching for this obit....wanted to go outside and scrub my forehead up and down the sidewalk!....okay here we go...

https://www.myfloridacounty.com/serv/MyFloridaCounty/ORI/Order

SYKES MYLES K;
WELFENBERG DOROTHY A
NO GRANTEE INDEXED 07/10/1979 MARRIAGE RECORD ALACHUA 474958 1219/282 1

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&gsfn=robert&gsln=welfenberg&=&gsby=&gsb2co=1%2CAll+Countries&gsb2pl=1%2C+&gsdy=&gsd2co=1%2CAll+Countries&gsd2pl=1%2C+&=&=&=&sbo=0&sbor=&srchb=r&prox=1&db=&ti=0&ti.si=0&gl=allgs&gss=asrf&gst=34&so=3

Name:  Robert Bing Welfenberg
Spouse:  Dorothy Annette Squires
Marriage:  date - St Louis

 Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997
Name:  Teresa Annette Squires
Father:  Joe Stephen Squires
Birth:  date - Dallas

looks like Joe Stephen Squires was Dorothy Sykes first husband if we can find the marriage record for this we should have her maiden name....
maiden name ?,Squires,Welfenberg,Sykes......maybe it is listed in the Texas marriages?....unless he moved there after they seperated ? I think that Donald Squires is Dorothy's son (he resembles her in his pic),Teresa's brother  and that Jason Squires is Donald Squires son which would make him Ronalds cousin.....
::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

Is this Annette's husband with family tree?

Robert Bing Welfenberg

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=harzed&id=I23289

Family Trees




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 21, 2009, 05:44:18 PM
Haleigh Update: P.I. Cobra Staubs To Surrender To Police

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

Guess Snottygrass made a complaint. 

Missouri_Mom says:


He states he will turn himself in Friday at 9am..expects to be out in minutes....which is usually the norm routine for this jail.

http://www.topix.com/city/satsuma-fl/2009/02/missing-5-year-old-florida-girl-likely-was-abducted-police-say/p1645


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 21, 2009, 05:49:02 PM
Name: Myles K Sykes
Birth Date: 27 November 1940
Death Date: 23 January 2002 
Issuing State: Florida
Residence at Death: Crescent City,Putnam,Florida 32112
Satsuma Cemetery, Putnam, Florida

ROBERT B WELFENBERG
http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi?lastname=Welfenberg&firstname=robert&nt=exact

Try an Obit in Missouri,




From his social security.. yep.. I don't understand why Ancestry doesn't have his obit listed.
Two orbits later, one not listing more than we had.. 6 bucks later.. Read it and weep.......

Deceased Name: Myles K. Sykes, 61 
 
WELAKA -- Myles Kirby Sykes, 61, a retiree of Florida Department of Agriculture, died Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2002.

A native of Island Grove, he was a longtime resident of Hawthorne. Mr. Sykes was a member of First Baptist Church of Fruitland Park.

Survivors include his wife of 22 years, Annette Sykes, Welaka; son, Ronald Cummings, Crescent City; stepson, Donald Squires, Crescent City; daughters, Teresa Neves, Lady Lake, Melanie Kintzler, Oakfield, Wis., and Crystal Cummings, Wildwood; brothers, Thomas Sykes, Ocala, William Sykes, Opelika, Ala., and James Sykes, Marianna; sisters, Margie Boles, Gainesville, Berniece Woodward, Micanopy, Frances Coullette, Jacksonville, Glenda Miller, Texas and Cora Sue Price, Island Grove; 10 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild.

Masters Funeral Home, Palatka, provided information.


This is awesome....you need a monkey star!!!....I was making myself crazy seraching for this obit....wanted to go outside and scrub my forehead up and down the sidewalk!....okay here we go...

https://www.myfloridacounty.com/serv/MyFloridaCounty/ORI/Order

SYKES MYLES K;
WELFENBERG DOROTHY A
NO GRANTEE INDEXED 07/10/1979 MARRIAGE RECORD ALACHUA 474958 1219/282 1

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&gsfn=robert&gsln=welfenberg&=&gsby=&gsb2co=1%2CAll+Countries&gsb2pl=1%2C+&gsdy=&gsd2co=1%2CAll+Countries&gsd2pl=1%2C+&=&=&=&sbo=0&sbor=&srchb=r&prox=1&db=&ti=0&ti.si=0&gl=allgs&gss=asrf&gst=34&so=3

Name:  Robert Bing Welfenberg
Spouse:  Dorothy Annette Squires
Marriage:  date - St Louis

 Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997
Name:  Teresa Annette Squires
Father:  Joe Stephen Squires
Birth:  date - Dallas

looks like Joe Stephen Squires was Dorothy Sykes first husband if we can find the marriage record for this we should have her maiden name....
maiden name ?,Squires,Welfenberg,Sykes......maybe it is listed in the Texas marriages?....unless he moved there after they seperated ? I think that Donald Squires is Dorothy's son (he resembles her in his pic),Teresa's brother  and that Jason Squires is Donald Squires son which would make him Ronalds cousin.....
::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

Is this Annette's husband with family tree?

Robert Bing Welfenberg

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=harzed&id=I23289

Family Trees





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 21, 2009, 06:02:47 PM
Name: Myles K Sykes
Birth Date: 27 November 1940
Death Date: 23 January 2002 
Issuing State: Florida
Residence at Death: Crescent City,Putnam,Florida 32112
Satsuma Cemetery, Putnam, Florida



From his social security.. yep.. I don't understand why Ancestry doesn't have his obit listed.
Two orbits later, one not listing more than we had.. 6 bucks later.. Read it and weep.......

Deceased Name: Myles K. Sykes, 61 
 
WELAKA -- Myles Kirby Sykes, 61, a retiree of Florida Department of Agriculture, died Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2002.

A native of Island Grove, he was a longtime resident of Hawthorne. Mr. Sykes was a member of First Baptist Church of Fruitland Park.

Survivors include his wife of 22 years, Annette Sykes, Welaka; son, Ronald Cummings, Crescent City; stepson, Donald Squires, Crescent City; daughters, Teresa Neves, Lady Lake, Melanie Kintzler, Oakfield, Wis., and Crystal Cummings, Wildwood; brothers, Thomas Sykes, Ocala, William Sykes, Opelika, Ala., and James Sykes, Marianna; sisters, Margie Boles, Gainesville, Berniece Woodward, Micanopy, Frances Coullette, Jacksonville, Glenda Miller, Texas and Cora Sue Price, Island Grove; 10 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild.

Masters Funeral Home, Palatka, provided information.


This is awesome....you need a monkey star!!!....I was making myself crazy seraching for this obit....wanted to go outside and scrub my forehead up and down the sidewalk!....okay here we go...

https://www.myfloridacounty.com/serv/MyFloridaCounty/ORI/Order

SYKES MYLES K;
WELFENBERG DOROTHY A
NO GRANTEE INDEXED 07/10/1979 MARRIAGE RECORD ALACHUA 474958 1219/282 1

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&gsfn=robert&gsln=welfenberg&=&gsby=&gsb2co=1%2CAll+Countries&gsb2pl=1%2C+&gsdy=&gsd2co=1%2CAll+Countries&gsd2pl=1%2C+&=&=&=&sbo=0&sbor=&srchb=r&prox=1&db=&ti=0&ti.si=0&gl=allgs&gss=asrf&gst=34&so=3

Name:  Robert Bing Welfenberg
Spouse:  Dorothy Annette Squires
Marriage:  date - St Louis

 Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997
Name:  Teresa Annette Squires
Father:  Joe Stephen Squires
Birth:  date - Dallas

looks like Joe Stephen Squires was Dorothy Sykes first husband if we can find the marriage record for this we should have her maiden name....
maiden name ?,Squires,Welfenberg,Sykes......maybe it is listed in the Texas marriages?....unless he moved there after they seperated ? I think that Donald Squires is Dorothy's son (he resembles her in his pic),Teresa's brother  and that Jason Squires is Donald Squires son which would make him Ronalds cousin.....
::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

Is this Annette's husband with family tree?

Robert Bing Welfenberg

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=harzed&id=I23289

Family Trees

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Welfenberg&GSst=11&GRid=20695256&

Robert Bing Welfenberg :Obituary on "findagrave.com"  -----------Do I get a star?




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 21, 2009, 06:12:50 PM
O/T

Additional man arrested in Pinellas human trafficking case

Reported by: Carly Timmons
Email: ctimmons@abcactionnews.com
Last Update: 6:05 pm

PINELLAS COUNTY, FL -- Detectives have arrested an additional suspect in the human trafficking case currently under investigation by the Pinellas County Sheriff's Office, the Clearwater Area Human Trafficking Task Force, the Clearwater Police Department and the FDLE.

The suspect was arrested on a warrant at about noon on Thursday in Tampa.

26-year-old William Chrismichael Perez was arrested and charged Thursday in connection with one count of human trafficking. He is currently being held at the Hillsborough County Jail.

This is an open investigation, and more arrests are likely. Anyone having any knowledge about these individuals believed connected to this human trafficking operation or any of the victims, is asked to call Pinellas Sheriff's Detective Jeremy Lewis, at 727-582-6200, or to remain anonymous and to receive a possible cash reward, call Crime Stoppers at 1-800-973-TIPS.
Copyright 2009 The E.W. Scripps Co. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/local/story/Additional-man-arrested-in-Pinellas-human/T0loTArkD06dkd6_dwGUCQ.cspx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 21, 2009, 06:13:08 PM
Name: Myles K Sykes
Birth Date: 27 November 1940
Death Date: 23 January 2002 
Issuing State: Florida
Residence at Death: Crescent City,Putnam,Florida 32112
Satsuma Cemetery, Putnam, Florida



From his social security.. yep.. I don't understand why Ancestry doesn't have his obit listed.
Two orbits later, one not listing more than we had.. 6 bucks later.. Read it and weep.......

Deceased Name: Myles K. Sykes, 61 
 
WELAKA -- Myles Kirby Sykes, 61, a retiree of Florida Department of Agriculture, died Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2002.

A native of Island Grove, he was a longtime resident of Hawthorne. Mr. Sykes was a member of First Baptist Church of Fruitland Park.

Survivors include his wife of 22 years, Annette Sykes, Welaka; son, Ronald Cummings, Crescent City; stepson, Donald Squires, Crescent City; daughters, Teresa Neves, Lady Lake, Melanie Kintzler, Oakfield, Wis., and Crystal Cummings, Wildwood; brothers, Thomas Sykes, Ocala, William Sykes, Opelika, Ala., and James Sykes, Marianna; sisters, Margie Boles, Gainesville, Berniece Woodward, Micanopy, Frances Coullette, Jacksonville, Glenda Miller, Texas and Cora Sue Price, Island Grove; 10 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild.

Masters Funeral Home, Palatka, provided information.


This is awesome....you need a monkey star!!!....I was making myself crazy seraching for this obit....wanted to go outside and scrub my forehead up and down the sidewalk!....okay here we go...

https://www.myfloridacounty.com/serv/MyFloridaCounty/ORI/Order

SYKES MYLES K;
WELFENBERG DOROTHY A
NO GRANTEE INDEXED 07/10/1979 MARRIAGE RECORD ALACHUA 474958 1219/282 1

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&gsfn=robert&gsln=welfenberg&=&gsby=&gsb2co=1%2CAll+Countries&gsb2pl=1%2C+&gsdy=&gsd2co=1%2CAll+Countries&gsd2pl=1%2C+&=&=&=&sbo=0&sbor=&srchb=r&prox=1&db=&ti=0&ti.si=0&gl=allgs&gss=asrf&gst=34&so=3

Name:  Robert Bing Welfenberg
Spouse:  Dorothy Annette Squires
Marriage:  date - St Louis

 Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997
Name:  Teresa Annette Squires
Father:  Joe Stephen Squires
Birth:  date - Dallas

looks like Joe Stephen Squires was Dorothy Sykes first husband if we can find the marriage record for this we should have her maiden name....
maiden name ?,Squires,Welfenberg,Sykes......maybe it is listed in the Texas marriages?....unless he moved there after they seperated ? I think that Donald Squires is Dorothy's son (he resembles her in his pic),Teresa's brother  and that Jason Squires is Donald Squires son which would make him Ronalds cousin.....
::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

Is this Annette's husband with family tree?

Robert Bing Welfenberg

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=harzed&id=I23289

Family Trees

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Welfenberg&GSst=11&GRid=20695256&

Robert Bing Welfenberg :Obituary on "findagrave.com"  -----------Do I get a star?


Birth:  unknown
Death:  Jul. 27, 2007

Robert B. "Bob" Welfenberg, 64, of Palatka, died Friday, July 27, 2007, at his residence.

Born in St. Louis, Mo., Mr. Welfenberg settled here in the early 1970s after his military service. He was a U.S. Army veteran of the Vietnam Conflict. In 2006 he retired as an engineering technician from PDM Bridge in Palatka after 27 years of service. When he was young, Bob was a cowboy and a rodeo rider. He was a Baptist. He was formerly active at the First Baptist Church in Hollister where he ministered to the young people. He enjoyed fishing. The two main things in Bob's life were his family and his work.

He was preceded in death by his parents, Walter and Angela Welfenberg, who were married 59 years.

Sorry the link I posted is not in operation, try www.findagrave.com and name, etc.
 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 21, 2009, 06:15:17 PM
I see a new Monkey in the cage...WELCOME seahorse

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/dfjg.jpg)

Thank-you GramaMonkey,

I enjoy your posts.  I hope to contribute and bring home Haleigh.

Seahorse


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 21, 2009, 06:21:06 PM
Haleigh Cummings: At What Cost?

Posted on May 21st, 2009
by Stone in Op-ed

Satsuma, Florida-  What webs we weave I like to say, in the midst of the search effort for my girl Haleigh we have stumbled upon a brier patch. At the bottom of the thorns is quick sand. There are side shows going on around this investigation that is enough to make you ill. I am most concerned with the Anthony’s and their insistence on becoming support for Haleigh’s search, its a horrendous idea to allow people who don’t have the first clue on searching and recovering anything to support the search of a missing child. Where are their credentials for all of this? Does that fancy low grade bass boat make them qualified enough, is it the ATV that makes them qualified to search for a missing child? I haven’t seen one thing that qualifies them to be out searching for a needle in a haystack. Give me a break, and they want to extend support to Haleigh’s search. It blows my mind, Haleigh’s image should not be for use by the Anthony’s or any of their cohorts. Haleigh is much to fragile and unstable to be preyed upon by the Anthony’s, why? What is their purpose for wanting to swoop in suddenly and be Haleigh’s saving grace. Makes me want to vomit, sorry to be so brash but its the truth, just the thought of them supporting Haleigh’s search in anyway makes me ill. They are not in anyway qualified to be involved or lend their support to Haleigh’s search. There has been many tail feathers ruffled at a connection I made between them and Michelle Bart with her Never Lose Hope Foundation, it was only at the time in regards to the vigil held Sunday night in Florida where Haleigh’s mother, Crystal and grandmother Marie Griffis were in attendance.

It was all over the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation website, it was all over the Caylee Marie Anthony Myspace page, I have sources who received the same lay out of the event in email that was on the CMAF website. They invited themselves Michelle and NLHF foundation had no clue they was crashing the party, I don’t believe it. All one needs to do is read the internet to see and connect the dots, there is much side shows and drama saturating Haleigh’s disappearance its unbelievable, this bothers me. Haleigh does not need these people in her corner. She does not need people who are willing to lie regardless of consequence and effects. The Anthony’s to this very day this second accuse the fantasy Nanny Z. the perfect 10 woman, rich in cars and homes as being Caylee’s killer. How can they be of any support to Haleigh? Her disappearance is not in any way shape of form like Caylee’s murder, Caylee was murdered by her mother. What are they going to do for Haleigh print fliers, make t-shirts, sit at a display and finger print children and give out water while others search for her on foot in the swamps and woods? Maybe sale some rubber bracelets? I don’t see how them sitting at a display booth or on a bass fishing boat is going to help find Haleigh. What more do they have to offer then anyone else out searching for Haleigh? Cobra for example, makes me giggle, besides law enforcement I would take Cobra out searching for my missing child over the Anthony’s or Michelle Bart any day. He has the credentials and the experience in investigating, searching and recovering people. He is more qualified then either of those organizations put together to be out searching for a missing child. Haleigh needs him on her side, not “foundations” to hand out water and fliers or to sell t-shirts and bracelets. She needs folks pounding the pavement, rattling cages, shaken things up. Not sitting in the sun doing nothing but spitting in the wind. Efforts that create a tsunami not cloud the pool, I have seen more from Cobra then anyone out there looking for her. I am not in any way putting law enforcement investigators down they just are keeping their investigation to themselves, its understandable, but as a reporter I have to have other sources for my information and I have credible sources regardless of what some may think. I would trust my sources over any person any time, no matter who tells me “I am the source”.

I don’t know where the dots begin or where they might possibly end, I have only connected a couple, I get the feeling the dots could be like the stars in the sky, the only one I am concerned with is the Anthony’s and their foundation supporting my girl Haleigh’s search, all the others can piss up a rope as far as I care. People can come at me and try to change my mind, and try and force me to  admit a wrong I will not, I do not think the Anthony’s and their foundation and all that follow behind them like a pack of vultures need to be supporting Haleigh’s search. It boils my blood to think of Haleigh being plastered up on their billboards. They support a child killer, they wear their flags of support whenever in the media eye, the green shamrock pin, Cindy wears it every time she is on the television. That is her support of her daughter the child killer Casey Anthony. I don’t support child killers myself. The tie that binds I suppose, but where does the delusion and deceit end and the truth of the reality begin, when does one wake up and smell the roses, and say wow I can see clearly now? When does Caylee’s family take up her fight, and defend her to her killer? I doubt that is ever going to be achieved. Cover your own backsides is the way I see it. How can people so obviously covering up the murder of a child be fit to be out searching for any child, let alone Haleigh? Can’t accept it I just can’t. I see this from a bad lowly view, the support they want to extend to Haleigh’s search, its a terrible position to see it from. Only bad can come of their support and involvement in Haleigh’s search. I will write about it as long as there is the chance of them being involved or as long as they are if they do end up supporting Haleigh’s search. I am in this for Haleigh and her best interest, I am here for Haleigh to keep her in the know to pine for her and wait burning in that big empty desert at her crossroad. Haleigh come home, I stand with baited breath for her. If anyone thinks I will let this go and just lay down and take the Anthony’s and their foundation weaseling their way into Haleigh’s search they are wrong. I will not, I can’t its a poor choice. Haleigh doesn’t need that type of attention, it is without a doubt going to make a bigger mess then what it has turned out to be.

Haleigh is a five year old girl she has blonde hair and brown eyes, she may be disguised she is around three feet tall and weighs about thirty nine pounds. I say around and about because she has been gone long enough to grow. She has a birthmark on her left cheek. Please call Putnam County Sheriffs at (386) 329-0800 if you have any information about her. God bless you Haleigh Cummings.

Please if you would like to donate in the search effort for Haleigh Cummings do so at:

Any Sun Trust Bank and donate to “Case Closed Inc.” c/o William Staubs.

OR

2)Send an encouraging letter with small donation to:

Case Closed/William Staubs

PO BOX 267967
Weston, FL
33326

http://www.bloggernews.net/120969


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 21, 2009, 06:21:20 PM
Thank you seahorse....  Here is you star...

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/Decorated%20images/ar118906407752115.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 21, 2009, 06:24:23 PM
Name: Myles K Sykes
Birth Date: 27 November 1940
Death Date: 23 January 2002 
Issuing State: Florida
Residence at Death: Crescent City,Putnam,Florida 32112
Satsuma Cemetery, Putnam, Florida



From his social security.. yep.. I don't understand why Ancestry doesn't have his obit listed.
Two orbits later, one not listing more than we had.. 6 bucks later.. Read it and weep.......

Deceased Name: Myles K. Sykes, 61 
 
WELAKA -- Myles Kirby Sykes, 61, a retiree of Florida Department of Agriculture, died Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2002.

A native of Island Grove, he was a longtime resident of Hawthorne. Mr. Sykes was a member of First Baptist Church of Fruitland Park.

Survivors include his wife of 22 years, Annette Sykes, Welaka; son, Ronald Cummings, Crescent City; stepson, Donald Squires, Crescent City; daughters, Teresa Neves, Lady Lake, Melanie Kintzler, Oakfield, Wis., and Crystal Cummings, Wildwood; brothers, Thomas Sykes, Ocala, William Sykes, Opelika, Ala., and James Sykes, Marianna; sisters, Margie Boles, Gainesville, Berniece Woodward, Micanopy, Frances Coullette, Jacksonville, Glenda Miller, Texas and Cora Sue Price, Island Grove; 10 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild.

Masters Funeral Home, Palatka, provided information.


This is awesome....you need a monkey star!!!....I was making myself crazy seraching for this obit....wanted to go outside and scrub my forehead up and down the sidewalk!....okay here we go...

https://www.myfloridacounty.com/serv/MyFloridaCounty/ORI/Order

SYKES MYLES K;
WELFENBERG DOROTHY A
NO GRANTEE INDEXED 07/10/1979 MARRIAGE RECORD ALACHUA 474958 1219/282 1

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&gsfn=robert&gsln=welfenberg&=&gsby=&gsb2co=1%2CAll+Countries&gsb2pl=1%2C+&gsdy=&gsd2co=1%2CAll+Countries&gsd2pl=1%2C+&=&=&=&sbo=0&sbor=&srchb=r&prox=1&db=&ti=0&ti.si=0&gl=allgs&gss=asrf&gst=34&so=3

Name:  Robert Bing Welfenberg
Spouse:  Dorothy Annette Squires
Marriage:  date - St Louis

 Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997
Name:  Teresa Annette Squires
Father:  Joe Stephen Squires
Birth:  date - Dallas

looks like Joe Stephen Squires was Dorothy Sykes first husband if we can find the marriage record for this we should have her maiden name....
maiden name ?,Squires,Welfenberg,Sykes......maybe it is listed in the Texas marriages?....unless he moved there after they seperated ? I think that Donald Squires is Dorothy's son (he resembles her in his pic),Teresa's brother  and that Jason Squires is Donald Squires son which would make him Ronalds cousin.....
::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

Is this Annette's husband with family tree?

Robert Bing Welfenberg

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=harzed&id=I23289

Family Trees



Brother of Annette: Carl W. Stallings- source: www.findagrave.com

Birth:  Aug. 1, 1930
Death:  Jan. 18, 2008

Carl W. Stallings Sr., 77, of San Mateo went home to be with the Lord Friday, Jan. 18, 2008, at Haven Hospice Roberts Care Center following a brief illness.

Born in Gainesville, Ga. Aug. 1, 1930, Mr. Stallings had been a resident of San Mateo for the past 69 years, coming from Gadsden, Ala. In 1978, Carl retired from the Georgia-Pacific Corp. in Palatka after 30 years of service. He later worked for the former Putnam Paper and Packing in Palatka. He was a member of the Francis Baptist Church near Palatka. Carl enjoyed sports, fishing and woodworking. His favorite football team was the Florida Gators.

He was preceded in death by his father, George Stallings; his mother Iliff Stallings; his step mother, Martha Stallings; a brother, George Stallings; and a daughter, Gail Evans.

Surviving are his wife of 58 years, Neville Stallings of San Mateo; three sons and daughters-in-law, Carl Jr. and Suzette Stallings of San Mateo, Stephen and Candy Stallings of Francis, and Mark Stallings of Palatka; a daughter and son-in-law, Stephanie and Bill Kelly of Bay Minette, Ala.; one sister, Annette Sykes of Welaka; three brothers and sisters-in-law, Wayman and Jean Stallings of Francis, Ormand and Ruby Stallings of Francis, and Homer and Brenda Stallings of Welaka; 12 grandchildren, eight great-grandchildren and one great-great-grandson.

Calling hours will be from 6-8 p.m. Tuesday, Jan. 22, at Masters Funeral Home of Palatka. Funeral services will be at 11 a.m. Wednesday, Jan. 23, at Masters Funeral Home of Palatka with the Rev. Buddy Lynch and the Rev. Harry Varnadoe officiating. Burial will follow in the Palatka Memorial Gardens with military honors bestowed by the United States Air Force.

Memorial gifts may be sent to either Haven Hospice Roberts Care Center, 6400 St. Johns Ave., Palatka, FL 32177 or Francis Baptist Church (for the building fund), 155 CR 309C, Palatka, FL. 32177.
 
 
 
Burial:
Palatka Memorial Gardens
Palatka
Putnam County
Florida, USA
 
Created by: Kristy Thomas
Record added: Jan 21, 2008
Find A Grave Memorial# 24081835
 
 
 
Cemetery Photo
Added by: Rose SMITH BOYD 
 
 
Photos may be scaled.
Click on image for full size.
 
 
 

 Go Gator's. God Bless u..
- Robert C. Hill, Sr.
 Added: Jul. 26, 2008
 
- Kristy Thomas
 Added: Mar. 2, 2008
 
 
 
 
 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 21, 2009, 06:25:29 PM
WELCOME SEAHORSE   ::MonkeyDance::  Heart, interesting article.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 21, 2009, 06:29:32 PM
Name: Myles K Sykes
Birth Date: 27 November 1940
Death Date: 23 January 2002 
Issuing State: Florida
Residence at Death: Crescent City,Putnam,Florida 32112
Satsuma Cemetery, Putnam, Florida



From his social security.. yep.. I don't understand why Ancestry doesn't have his obit listed.
Two orbits later, one not listing more than we had.. 6 bucks later.. Read it and weep.......

Deceased Name: Myles K. Sykes, 61 
 
WELAKA -- Myles Kirby Sykes, 61, a retiree of Florida Department of Agriculture, died Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2002.

A native of Island Grove, he was a longtime resident of Hawthorne. Mr. Sykes was a member of First Baptist Church of Fruitland Park.

Survivors include his wife of 22 years, Annette Sykes, Welaka; son, Ronald Cummings, Crescent City; stepson, Donald Squires, Crescent City; daughters, Teresa Neves, Lady Lake, Melanie Kintzler, Oakfield, Wis., and Crystal Cummings, Wildwood; brothers, Thomas Sykes, Ocala, William Sykes, Opelika, Ala., and James Sykes, Marianna; sisters, Margie Boles, Gainesville, Berniece Woodward, Micanopy, Frances Coullette, Jacksonville, Glenda Miller, Texas and Cora Sue Price, Island Grove; 10 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild.

Masters Funeral Home, Palatka, provided information.


This is awesome....you need a monkey star!!!....I was making myself crazy seraching for this obit....wanted to go outside and scrub my forehead up and down the sidewalk!....okay here we go...

https://www.myfloridacounty.com/serv/MyFloridaCounty/ORI/Order

SYKES MYLES K;
WELFENBERG DOROTHY A
NO GRANTEE INDEXED 07/10/1979 MARRIAGE RECORD ALACHUA 474958 1219/282 1

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&gsfn=robert&gsln=welfenberg&=&gsby=&gsb2co=1%2CAll+Countries&gsb2pl=1%2C+&gsdy=&gsd2co=1%2CAll+Countries&gsd2pl=1%2C+&=&=&=&sbo=0&sbor=&srchb=r&prox=1&db=&ti=0&ti.si=0&gl=allgs&gss=asrf&gst=34&so=3

Name:  Robert Bing Welfenberg
Spouse:  Dorothy Annette Squires
Marriage:  date - St Louis

 Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997
Name:  Teresa Annette Squires
Father:  Joe Stephen Squires
Birth:  date - Dallas

looks like Joe Stephen Squires was Dorothy Sykes first husband if we can find the marriage record for this we should have her maiden name....
maiden name ?,Squires,Welfenberg,Sykes......maybe it is listed in the Texas marriages?....unless he moved there after they seperated ? I think that Donald Squires is Dorothy's son (he resembles her in his pic),Teresa's brother  and that Jason Squires is Donald Squires son which would make him Ronalds cousin.....
::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

Is this Annette's husband with family tree?

Robert Bing Welfenberg

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=harzed&id=I23289

Family Trees

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------FATHER to Annette Syke, source: www.findagrave.com




-Birth:  unknown
Death:  Dec. 8, 2002

George Robert Stallings, 93, of Welaka died Sunday, December 8, 2002 at the residence of his son in Francis following an extended illness.
He was a native of Lowell County, Georgia. He served in the U.S. Navy on the U.S.S. Missouri.
He later owned and operated a barber shop in Boston, Ga. before moving to Brunswick, Ga., where he worked in a defense plant for several years.
He had been a resident of Putnam County for the past 59 years, first living in Francis and after 1968 in Welaka, where he had been a member of the Welaka Baptist Church for many years. He worked for the City of Palatka as a policeman up until 1948 when he went to work at the former Hudson Pulp and Paper Corp. in Palatka. He helped to construct the mill and remained employed there until 1959 when he retired on disability.
He was preceded in death by his wives: Iliff Stallings, Martha Stallings and Vera Stallings; one daughter: Hildred Stallings; and one son: George Martin Stallings.
He is survived by four sons and daughters-in-law: Carl and Neville Stallings, Wayman and Jean Stallings, and Ormand and Ruby Stallings, all of Francis; and Homer and Brenda Stallings, Satsuma; one daughter: Annette Sykes, Welaka; 18 grandchildren; 39 great grandchildren and 11 great great grandchildren.
Flowers are gratefully accepted or memorial gifts may be sent to Hospice of the Lakes, 6400 St. Johns Ave., Palatka, FL 32177.
Calling hours will be from 5 until 7 p.m., Wednesday at Masters Funeral Home, Palatka.
Funeral services will be 11 a.m., Thursday, Dec. 12 at the funeral home, with the Rev. Sonny Pipkins officiating.
In honor of Mr. Stallings life a video tribute will be shown during the service.
Interment will follow in Palatka Memorial Gardens.
Masters Funeral Home of Palatka is in charge of arrangements
 
 
Burial:
Palatka Memorial Gardens
Palatka
Putnam County
Florida, USA
 
Created by: Kristy Thomas
Record added: Mar 02, 2008
Find A Grave Memorial# 24993154
 
 
 
Cemetery Photo
Added by: Rose SMITH BOYD 
 
 
Photos may be scaled.
Click on image for full size.
 
 
 

 Thank u for ur Service to our Nation. God Bless u & Rest in Peace..
- Robert C. Hill, Sr.
 Added: Aug. 8, 2008
 
 
 
 
 

Accuracy and Copyright Disclaimer


 






Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 06:33:25 PM
We heard from our Lady, who's our "Eyes in Satsuma"..  And We Monkeys want to Thank her for Everything She Does.

"mlee,  Weather still bad here in (NE FL) but did break up a bit around noon.  I drove over to
Welaka and hunted up 216 4th Avenue (GGM Sykes).   The double wide manufactured home is at the
end of the road and beyond the road is a swamp to the south.  The MH is very large, neat and on a large
lot.  On my first pass near the MH I saw a young man in the front yard.  On my second and final pass I
saw a young woman with him.  I believe from the size relationship that it was Ron and Mistie.  This was
at 1:12 p.m. today, Thursday.  In the front yard off the dirt road was a white car, large white truck and a
burgundy/purple car.    In the back yard I could partially see a large white motorhome or pull behind
trailer that could easily be lived in.  I couldn't see all of it so I don't know if it were a motorhome or just a
trailer, but it was definitely living quarters of some kind.  I saw no tent from my angle on the road.   I did
not go directly in front of the home as the road dead ends and I would have had to turn around in a
crowded space.  I was between 150 and 200 feet away from the property.   Remember I'm 70 and my eyes
are not the best.   
 
I had written previously about a car in front of the HaleighBug Center that was blue/purple.   The car in
front of 216 4th Av. was a burgundy/purple shade and are not the same.
 
The other comment I want to make is that Ron (as I believe it was him) looks much thinner than his first
pictures when Haleigh was just missing. 
 
I have heard nothing new outside the SM blog which I do read daily.  I will keep an eye on the Center."


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 21, 2009, 06:35:41 PM
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Seahorse


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 21, 2009, 06:39:42 PM
We heard from our Lady, who's our "Eyes in Satsuma"..  And We Monkeys want to Thank her for Everything She Does.

"mlee,  Weather still bad here in (NE FL) but did break up a bit around noon.  I drove over to
Welaka and hunted up 216 4th Avenue (GGM Sykes).   The double wide manufactured home is at the
end of the road and beyond the road is a swamp to the south.  The MH is very large, neat and on a large
lot.  On my first pass near the MH I saw a young man in the front yard.  On my second and final pass I
saw a young woman with him.  I believe from the size relationship that it was Ron and Mistie.  This was
at 1:12 p.m. today, Thursday.  In the front yard off the dirt road was a white car, large white truck and a
burgundy/purple car.    In the back yard I could partially see a large white motorhome or pull behind
trailer that could easily be lived in.  I couldn't see all of it so I don't know if it were a motorhome or just a
trailer, but it was definitely living quarters of some kind.  I saw no tent from my angle on the road.   I did
not go directly in front of the home as the road dead ends and I would have had to turn around in a
crowded space.  I was between 150 and 200 feet away from the property.   Remember I'm 70 and my eyes
are not the best.   
 
I had written previously about a car in front of the HaleighBug Center that was blue/purple.   The car in
front of 216 4th Av. was a burgundy/purple shade and are not the same.
 
The other comment I want to make is that Ron (as I believe it was him) looks much thinner than his first
pictures when Haleigh was just missing. 
 
I have heard nothing new outside the SM blog which I do read daily.  I will keep an eye on the Center."


Thanks for the info mlee!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 21, 2009, 06:39:49 PM
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome

Seahorse

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Thank you for your already posted contributions!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 21, 2009, 06:47:05 PM
Thank you seahorse....  Here is you star...

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GramaMonkey,


Thank-you for the gold star! 

I knew where to look under every rock, because, I have a lot of experience where to look. My cousin and I found our gr-grandmother, it took two years of searching, now I can use some of the sources from those experiences to connect the dots.

I LOVE the seahorse, Thank-you & God Bless Haleigh.

Seahorse


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 06:56:59 PM
There has been a terrific job of finding info today... this is great......  Now, the question what are we going to do with our gathering of data..  We now know who family members are and we can play trackers.  Now, for the other side of the family.

Johnny Marcus Sheffield had three wives.... 
Maria Johns (at one time the family name was St. John's- they cut it down to Johns) 
Jennifer Anne Jacobs (second name, and her second married name - maiden name is Ickerson, 
Connie Hale, youngest of the three.

With Johnny and Maria they have three girls and one boy
Crystal
Marcus
Shoot have to look them up.

With Johnny and Jennifer, don't think they have children together, possible they do.
Jennifer is the ex step Mom who was over at the Haleigh Bug Center helping Crystal out a lot, she is also very close friends to the owners of the Mobile home that Haleigh went missing from.

With Johnny and Connie, they have a small boy.....

Johnny and Connie live in Satsuma, and so does Jennifer and she now goes by Jennifer Jacobs, although she has been married twice since her divorce with Johnny, she was married to a Townsend and a Wampler (I think thats the spelling)

Once we understand who is who in the families, we can figure how far the families extend, to other locations, like Other States..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 21, 2009, 06:59:04 PM
Thank you seahorse....  Here is you star...

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/Decorated%20images/ar118906407752115.jpg)

GramaMonkey,


Thank-you for the gold star! 

I knew where to look under every rock, because, I have a lot of experience where to look. My cousin and I found our gr-grandmother, it took two years of searching, now I can use some of the sources from those experiences to connect the dots.

I LOVE the seahorse, Thank-you & God Bless Haleigh.

Seahorse

Ok Seahorse and other Monkeys, who exactly is this Whitmore or Whitmeyer that was a witness and signed as a witness on Ron and Misty's marriage license?  I run into a brick wall on that one.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 06:59:38 PM
I see a new Monkey in the cage...WELCOME seahorse

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And a very good researcher too.... look at the treasures..  And we have Patricia..  Digs like a Monkey Pro...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 21, 2009, 07:01:29 PM
I see a new Monkey in the cage...WELCOME seahorse

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GramaMonkey,

Please excuse me if I'm reposting.  I felt important just in case it didn't come through before.

Thank-you,Seahorse

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Annette Sykes, father's obit from www.findagrave.com  IMO


Birth:  unknown
Death:  Dec. 8, 2002

George Robert Stallings, 93, of Welaka died Sunday, December 8, 2002 at the residence of his son in Francis following an extended illness.

He was a native of Lowell County, Georgia. He served in the U.S. Navy on the U.S.S. Missouri.
He later owned and operated a barber shop in Boston, Ga. before moving to Brunswick, Ga., where he worked in a defense plant for several years.

He had been a resident of Putnam County for the past 59 years, first living in Francis and after 1968 in Welaka, where he had been a member of the Welaka Baptist Church for many years. He worked for the City of Palatka as a policeman up until 1948 when he went to work at the former Hudson Pulp and Paper Corp. in Palatka. He helped to construct the mill and remained employed there until 1959 when he retired on disability.
He was preceded in death by his wives: Iliff Stallings, Martha Stallings and Vera Stallings; one daughter: Hildred Stallings; and one son: George Martin Stallings.

He is survived by four sons and daughters-in-law: Carl and Neville Stallings, Wayman and Jean Stallings, and Ormand and Ruby Stallings, all of Francis; and Homer and Brenda Stallings, Satsuma; one daughter: Annette Sykes, Welaka; 18 grandchildren; 39 great grandchildren and 11 great great grandchildren.
Flowers are gratefully accepted or memorial gifts may be sent to Hospice of the Lakes, 6400 St. Johns Ave., Palatka, FL 32177.

Calling hours will be from 5 until 7 p.m., Wednesday at Masters Funeral Home, Palatka.
Funeral services will be 11 a.m., Thursday, Dec. 12 at the funeral home, with the Rev. Sonny Pipkins officiating.

In honor of Mr. Stallings life a video tribute will be shown during the service.
Interment will follow in Palatka Memorial Gardens.
Masters Funeral Home of Palatka is in charge of arrangements
 
 
Burial:
Palatka Memorial Gardens
Palatka
Putnam County
Florida, USA
 
Created by: Kristy Thomas
Record added: Mar 02, 2008
Find A Grave Memorial# 24993154
 
 
 
Cemetery Photo
Added by: Rose SMITH BOYD 
 
 
Photos may be scaled.
Click on image for full size.
 
 
 

 Thank u for ur Service to our Nation. God Bless u & Rest in Peace..
- Robert C. Hill, Sr.
 Added: Aug. 8, 2008
 
 
 
 
 

Accuracy and Copyright Disclaimer


 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 21, 2009, 07:03:36 PM
There has been a terrific job of finding info today... this is great......  Now, the question what are we going to do with our gathering of data..  We now know who family members are and we can play trackers.  Now, for the other side of the family.

Johnny Marcus Sheffield had three wives.... 
Maria Johns (at one time the family name was St. John's- they cut it down to Johns) 
Jennifer Anne Jacobs (second name, and her second married name - maiden name is Ickerson, 
Connie Hale, youngest of the three.

With Johnny and Maria they have three girls and one boy
Crystal
Marcus
Shoot have to look them up.

With Johnny and Jennifer, don't think they have children together, possible they do.
Jennifer is the ex step Mom who was over at the Haleigh Bug Center helping Crystal out a lot, she is also very close friends to the owners of the Mobile home that Haleigh went missing from.

With Johnny and Connie, they have a small boy.....

Johnny and Connie live in Satsuma, and so does Jennifer and she now goes by Jennifer Jacobs, although she has been married twice since her divorce with Johnny, she was married to a Townsend and a Wampler (I think thats the spelling)

Once we understand who is who in the families, we can figure how far the families extend, to other locations, like Other States..

According to a local at WS Marty (Johnny) met his current wife when she was 17, and  the child they have is not his biological son. They plan to move to Kentucky very soon.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 07:05:10 PM
Thank you seahorse....  Here is you star...

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/Decorated%20images/ar118906407752115.jpg)

GramaMonkey,


Thank-you for the gold star! 

I knew where to look under every rock, because, I have a lot of experience where to look. My cousin and I found our gr-grandmother, it took two years of searching, now I can use some of the sources from those experiences to connect the dots.

I LOVE the seahorse, Thank-you & God Bless Haleigh.

Seahorse

Ok Seahorse and other Monkeys, who exactly is this Whitmore or Whitmeyer that was a witness and signed as a witness on Ron and Misty's marriage license?  I run into a brick wall on that one.

Don't know Heart, at least not yet.. figure she has to be related somehow..  will be working on it.. you know brick walls are, we get the monkeys together and knock that wall down in a heart beat, have brick pieces all over the cage floor. Gotta find a broom for that...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 21, 2009, 07:07:56 PM
Name: Myles K Sykes
Birth Date: 27 November 1940
Death Date: 23 January 2002 
Issuing State: Florida
Residence at Death: Crescent City,Putnam,Florida 32112
Satsuma Cemetery, Putnam, Florida



From his social security.. yep.. I don't understand why Ancestry doesn't have his obit listed.
Two orbits later, one not listing more than we had.. 6 bucks later.. Read it and weep.......

Deceased Name: Myles K. Sykes, 61 
 
WELAKA -- Myles Kirby Sykes, 61, a retiree of Florida Department of Agriculture, died Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2002.

A native of Island Grove, he was a longtime resident of Hawthorne. Mr. Sykes was a member of First Baptist Church of Fruitland Park.

Survivors include his wife of 22 years, Annette Sykes, Welaka; son, Ronald Cummings, Crescent City; stepson, Donald Squires, Crescent City; daughters, Teresa Neves, Lady Lake, Melanie Kintzler, Oakfield, Wis., and Crystal Cummings, Wildwood; brothers, Thomas Sykes, Ocala, William Sykes, Opelika, Ala., and James Sykes, Marianna; sisters, Margie Boles, Gainesville, Berniece Woodward, Micanopy, Frances Coullette, Jacksonville, Glenda Miller, Texas and Cora Sue Price, Island Grove; 10 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild.

Masters Funeral Home, Palatka, provided information.


This is awesome....you need a monkey star!!!....I was making myself crazy seraching for this obit....wanted to go outside and scrub my forehead up and down the sidewalk!....okay here we go...

https://www.myfloridacounty.com/serv/MyFloridaCounty/ORI/Order

SYKES MYLES K;
WELFENBERG DOROTHY A
NO GRANTEE INDEXED 07/10/1979 MARRIAGE RECORD ALACHUA 474958 1219/282 1

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&gsfn=robert&gsln=welfenberg&=&gsby=&gsb2co=1%2CAll+Countries&gsb2pl=1%2C+&gsdy=&gsd2co=1%2CAll+Countries&gsd2pl=1%2C+&=&=&=&sbo=0&sbor=&srchb=r&prox=1&db=&ti=0&ti.si=0&gl=allgs&gss=asrf&gst=34&so=3

Name:  Robert Bing Welfenberg
Spouse:  Dorothy Annette Squires
Marriage:  date - St Louis

 Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997
Name:  Teresa Annette Squires
Father:  Joe Stephen Squires
Birth:  date - Dallas

looks like Joe Stephen Squires was Dorothy Sykes first husband if we can find the marriage record for this we should have her maiden name....
maiden name ?,Squires,Welfenberg,Sykes......maybe it is listed in the Texas marriages?....unless he moved there after they seperated ? I think that Donald Squires is Dorothy's son (he resembles her in his pic),Teresa's brother  and that Jason Squires is Donald Squires son which would make him Ronalds cousin.....
::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

Is this Annette's husband with family tree?

Robert Bing Welfenberg

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=harzed&id=I23289

Family Trees

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------FATHER to Annette Syke, source: www.findagrave.com




-Birth:  unknown
Death:  Dec. 8, 2002

George Robert Stallings, 93, of Welaka died Sunday, December 8, 2002 at the residence of his son in Francis following an extended illness.
He was a native of Lowell County, Georgia. He served in the U.S. Navy on the U.S.S. Missouri.
He later owned and operated a barber shop in Boston, Ga. before moving to Brunswick, Ga., where he worked in a defense plant for several years.
He had been a resident of Putnam County for the past 59 years, first living in Francis and after 1968 in Welaka, where he had been a member of the Welaka Baptist Church for many years. He worked for the City of Palatka as a policeman up until 1948 when he went to work at the former Hudson Pulp and Paper Corp. in Palatka. He helped to construct the mill and remained employed there until 1959 when he retired on disability.
He was preceded in death by his wives: Iliff Stallings, Martha Stallings and Vera Stallings; one daughter: Hildred Stallings; and one son: George Martin Stallings.
He is survived by four sons and daughters-in-law: Carl and Neville Stallings, Wayman and Jean Stallings, and Ormand and Ruby Stallings, all of Francis; and Homer and Brenda Stallings, Satsuma; one daughter: Annette Sykes, Welaka; 18 grandchildren; 39 great grandchildren and 11 great great grandchildren.
Flowers are gratefully accepted or memorial gifts may be sent to Hospice of the Lakes, 6400 St. Johns Ave., Palatka, FL 32177.
Calling hours will be from 5 until 7 p.m., Wednesday at Masters Funeral Home, Palatka.
Funeral services will be 11 a.m., Thursday, Dec. 12 at the funeral home, with the Rev. Sonny Pipkins officiating.
In honor of Mr. Stallings life a video tribute will be shown during the service.
Interment will follow in Palatka Memorial Gardens.
Masters Funeral Home of Palatka is in charge of arrangements
 
 
Burial:
Palatka Memorial Gardens
Palatka
Putnam County
Florida, USA
 
Created by: Kristy Thomas
Record added: Mar 02, 2008
Find A Grave Memorial# 24993154
 
 
 
Cemetery Photo
Added by: Rose SMITH BOYD 
 
 
Photos may be scaled.
Click on image for full size.
 
 
 

 Thank u for ur Service to our Nation. God Bless u & Rest in Peace..
- Robert C. Hill, Sr.
 Added: Aug. 8, 2008
 
 
 
 
 

Accuracy and Copyright Disclaimer


 





Bravo Seahorse!!!....you get three gold stars!.....welcome to the cage.....I can see you are going to be a very resourceful monkey!....thank you for the info.....let's keep digging.... ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 07:11:34 PM
There has been a terrific job of finding info today... this is great......  Now, the question what are we going to do with our gathering of data..  We now know who family members are and we can play trackers.  Now, for the other side of the family.

Johnny Marcus Sheffield had three wives.... 
Maria Johns (at one time the family name was St. John's- they cut it down to Johns) 
Jennifer Anne Jacobs (second name, and her second married name - maiden name is Ickerson, 
Connie Hale, youngest of the three.

With Johnny and Maria they have three girls and one boy
Crystal
Marcus
Shoot have to look them up.

With Johnny and Jennifer, don't think they have children together, possible they do.
Jennifer is the ex step Mom who was over at the Haleigh Bug Center helping Crystal out a lot, she is also very close friends to the owners of the Mobile home that Haleigh went missing from.

With Johnny and Connie, they have a small boy.....

Johnny and Connie live in Satsuma, and so does Jennifer and she now goes by Jennifer Jacobs, although she has been married twice since her divorce with Johnny, she was married to a Townsend and a Wampler (I think thats the spelling)

Once we understand who is who in the families, we can figure how far the families extend, to other locations, like Other States..

According to a local at WS Marty (Johnny) met his current wife when she was 17, and  the child they have is not his biological son. They plan to move to Kentucky very soon.

I guess this is as good a time to start tracking as there ever will be..  They've been together for sometime, haven't they. Figure Johnny loves the boy, like its not any different.. his or not..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 21, 2009, 07:12:12 PM
We heard from our Lady, who's our "Eyes in Satsuma"..  And We Monkeys want to Thank her for Everything She Does.

"mlee,  Weather still bad here in (NE FL) but did break up a bit around noon.  I drove over to
Welaka and hunted up 216 4th Avenue (GGM Sykes).   The double wide manufactured home is at the
end of the road and beyond the road is a swamp to the south.  The MH is very large, neat and on a large
lot.  On my first pass near the MH I saw a young man in the front yard.  On my second and final pass I
saw a young woman with him.  I believe from the size relationship that it was Ron and Mistie.  This was
at 1:12 p.m. today, Thursday.  In the front yard off the dirt road was a white car, large white truck and a
burgundy/purple car.    In the back yard I could partially see a large white motorhome or pull behind
trailer that could easily be lived in.  I couldn't see all of it so I don't know if it were a motorhome or just a
trailer, but it was definitely living quarters of some kind.  I saw no tent from my angle on the road.   I did
not go directly in front of the home as the road dead ends and I would have had to turn around in a
crowded space.  I was between 150 and 200 feet away from the property.   Remember I'm 70 and my eyes
are not the best.   
 
I had written previously about a car in front of the HaleighBug Center that was blue/purple.   The car in
front of 216 4th Av. was a burgundy/purple shade and are not the same.
 
The other comment I want to make is that Ron (as I believe it was him) looks much thinner than his first
pictures when Haleigh was just missing. 
 
I have heard nothing new outside the SM blog which I do read daily.  I will keep an eye on the Center."


Thank you for posting that mlee....and a big thanks to this kind individual who shared of her time to go and be our eyes! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 21, 2009, 07:17:29 PM
There has been a terrific job of finding info today... this is great......  Now, the question what are we going to do with our gathering of data..  We now know who family members are and we can play trackers.  Now, for the other side of the family.

Johnny Marcus Sheffield had three wives.... 
Maria Johns (at one time the family name was St. John's- they cut it down to Johns) 
Jennifer Anne Jacobs (second name, and her second married name - maiden name is Ickerson, 
Connie Hale, youngest of the three.

With Johnny and Maria they have three girls and one boy
Crystal
Marcus
Shoot have to look them up.

With Johnny and Jennifer, don't think they have children together, possible they do.
Jennifer is the ex step Mom who was over at the Haleigh Bug Center helping Crystal out a lot, she is also very close friends to the owners of the Mobile home that Haleigh went missing from.

With Johnny and Connie, they have a small boy.....

Johnny and Connie live in Satsuma, and so does Jennifer and she now goes by Jennifer Jacobs, although she has been married twice since her divorce with Johnny, she was married to a Townsend and a Wampler (I think thats the spelling)

Once we understand who is who in the families, we can figure how far the families extend, to other locations, like Other States..

According to a local at WS Marty (Johnny) met his current wife when she was 17, and  the child they have is not his biological son. They plan to move to Kentucky very soon.

I guess this is as good a time to start tracking as there ever will be..  They've been together for sometime, haven't they. Figure Johnny loves the boy, like its not any different.. his or not..

It seems he does, he's known since she was pregnant with the child that it wasn't his, but has raised the child as his own. I think they have already found a place in Kentucky, and rumor is they are packing now.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: momoftwins on May 21, 2009, 07:20:59 PM
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I just love this pic. Maven.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 21, 2009, 07:23:44 PM
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Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Hi all. I just stopped by to say hello and let you know I am still making art for Haleigh and researching the case.

I'll be back sometime soon.

Take care, and keep on sleuthing!

~Brandi


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: rosebud on May 21, 2009, 07:24:46 PM
OMG, I'm such a stupid Monkey. Please forgive me on asking the wrong darn name. It was Karen Lee was who I meaning to ask about. I know one of u monkeys go over there and by NO MEANS was I referring to anyone here. I hope I don't have this one screwed up as well. The reason I'm asking is someone I know has thought that Karen Lee might be AnnaFla. I remember when I had first come on this board that, there was prob with AnnaFla. She has had prob with AnnaFla herself and has been thinking about this alot lately. If this is one of u monkeys please don't throw nanners. I'm still a baby monk. LOL Does that help for being stupid?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 21, 2009, 07:26:23 PM


While I am here, welcome SeaHorse and any new monkeys!

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 21, 2009, 07:28:59 PM
Very nice pic Brandi, and I'm glad you are back!  ::MonkeyAngel::

momoftwins Thanks!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 21, 2009, 07:29:36 PM
Is there anyway for someone to find the death certificate for the other hubs of Annette??

We now have her first husband obit.  Next in line is ...hmmm..Squires?  Then  Myles K. Sykes

Maybe those obits, would give us ALL of the children to Annette, plus offspring relatives to the hubs besides.  Maybe this way we can find out who this...Rena or Renate  Whitmore is!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: rosebud on May 21, 2009, 07:30:43 PM
I've just come back in this afternoon and saw about Cobra. How the heck does he end up in jail and all those druggies,child molestors,etc. all walk free. Something is very wrong down there. I know everyone has already said all this,but, I just can not believe this is going to happen. I have bail money and a big mouth if I can come with u guys to go to protest        ::cartwheel::
 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 21, 2009, 07:33:03 PM
There has been a terrific job of finding info today... this is great......  Now, the question what are we going to do with our gathering of data..  We now know who family members are and we can play trackers.  Now, for the other side of the family.

Johnny Marcus Sheffield had three wives.... 
Maria Johns (at one time the family name was St. John's- they cut it down to Johns) 
Jennifer Anne Jacobs (second name, and her second married name - maiden name is Ickerson, 
Connie Hale, youngest of the three.

With Johnny and Maria they have three girls and one boy
Crystal
Marcus
Shoot have to look them up.

With Johnny and Jennifer, don't think they have children together, possible they do.
Jennifer is the ex step Mom who was over at the Haleigh Bug Center helping Crystal out a lot, she is also very close friends to the owners of the Mobile home that Haleigh went missing from.

With Johnny and Connie, they have a small boy.....

Johnny and Connie live in Satsuma, and so does Jennifer and she now goes by Jennifer Jacobs, although she has been married twice since her divorce with Johnny, she was married to a Townsend and a Wampler (I think thats the spelling)

Once we understand who is who in the families, we can figure how far the families extend, to other locations, like Other States..

Connie's maiden name is Hale, if you are interested.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 21, 2009, 07:34:52 PM
I've just come back in this afternoon and saw about Cobra. How the heck does he end up in jail and all those druggies,child molestors,etc. all walk free. Something is very wrong down there. I know everyone has already said all this,but, I just can not believe this is going to happen. I have bail money and a big mouth if I can come with u guys to go to protest        ::cartwheel::
 ::MonkeyDance::

It seems the more "news" we get, the crazier this whole case and everyone surrounding it gets. Maybe they just wanna give Cobra one of their tasty sammiches.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: lady on May 21, 2009, 07:36:11 PM
I see a new Monkey in the cage...WELCOME seahorse

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/dfjg.jpg)
Hey..............that looks like me !!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 21, 2009, 07:46:51 PM
Other interesting information from over yonder ....... Ron's attorney has apparently advised him not to talk to LE, and Misty does not have a lawyer yet.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 21, 2009, 07:48:09 PM
Brandi, nice to see you and beautiful pic of Haleigh  ::MonkeyAngel:: " Eyes in Satsuma"..  thanks for all your info  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 21, 2009, 07:49:40 PM
Other interesting information from over yonder ....... Ron's attorney has apparently advised him not to talk to LE, and Misty does not have a lawyer yet.
Ron's lawyer has advised him not to talk to LE, saw this coming  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 21, 2009, 07:52:47 PM
Other interesting information from over yonder ....... Ron's attorney has apparently advised him not to talk to LE, and Misty does not have a lawyer yet.
Good Afterneen Maven, The last I heard from Satsuma, Misty does have a lawyer, She hasnt said who yet or maybe they dropped her by now but she did have one.....I will find out for sure!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 07:53:42 PM
OMG, I'm such a stupid Monkey. Please forgive me on asking the wrong darn name. It was Karen Lee was who I meaning to ask about. I know one of u monkeys go over there and by NO MEANS was I referring to anyone here. I hope I don't have this one screwed up as well. The reason I'm asking is someone I know has thought that Karen Lee might be AnnaFla. I remember when I had first come on this board that, there was prob with AnnaFla. She has had prob with AnnaFla herself and has been thinking about this alot lately. If this is one of u monkeys please don't throw nanners. I'm still a baby monk. LOL Does that help for being stupid?
She was before my time, but I remember the monkey's talking about her, and I did help research a bit on her..  I found her website and she runs a pet store or something.. don't remember right off.  anyway she is still very active on Arts site.  I see her there all the time.  I have run into a few people that I was sure were under different names on his site, as well as other's.. but no matter, I learned why they do.  I posted on art my opinion on the photo of Haleigh that I still believe is bruising, another poster who is actually a registered Monkey, but not an active poster, she/ he / it  came on and razed me a bit, said that the monkeys had come to the conclusion the bruise was not a bruise and I was only over there trying to start trouble....  Like I said she is registered as a monkey, but not a poster on the site...  As far as that bruise is concerned, still looks like one to me..  And every Monkey or poster has a right to their opinion....  So, it probably is the reason we should all run by different names on different sites..  Using one identity poster on Monkey's as well as other sites,  we are far to easy to track.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 21, 2009, 08:01:54 PM
Other interesting information from over yonder ....... Ron's attorney has apparently advised him not to talk to LE, and Misty does not have a lawyer yet.
Good Afterneen Maven, The last I heard from Satsuma, Misty does have a lawyer, She hasnt said who yet or maybe they dropped her by now but she did have one.....I will find out for sure!

Thanks HH, good to see you here. Have you received an email from KP today about the blog and comments on bi-fuel and her husband?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 21, 2009, 08:04:43 PM

Thank-you for the warm welcome's.

It was an exhausting search for a couple minutes, until, I hit it lucky and luckier.

I am very happy the three gold stars. God Bless.


Seahorse


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 21, 2009, 08:06:35 PM
I've just come back in this afternoon and saw about Cobra. How the heck does he end up in jail and all those druggies,child molestors,etc. all walk free. Something is very wrong down there. I know everyone has already said all this,but, I just can not believe this is going to happen. I have bail money and a big mouth if I can come with u guys to go to protest        ::cartwheel::
 ::MonkeyDance::

It seems the more "news" we get, the crazier this whole case and everyone surrounding it gets. Maybe they just wanna give Cobra one of their tasty sammiches.

Breaking News - Haleigh Cummings – More Insanity In Putnam County

Posted on May 21st, 2009
by Simon Barrett in Society and Culture


OK, this is hitting a little close to home. Now it is the good guys that are getting the raw deal. Not all the facts are in, but it looks like William “Cobra” Staubs is headed to jail. In what I can only call the stupidest piece of police work in history they are slapping a false imprisonment rap on him!

Details are a little sketchy at this time but as they come in I will update this story.

This story has its roots in an incident that occurred weeks ago. A known sex offender tried to donate some furniture to the Haleigh Bug center, and was sent packing when they discovered that he was on a $78,000 bond concerning some pedophile charges.

At some point there was a communication by the insurance company and Cobra. Cobra talked to the offender and when he got lippy, Cobra cuffed him. It seems that the insurance company then got cold feet, and asked Cobra to release him, in fact drive him home. The offender was quickly released by Cobra.

It transpires that the accused, a Mr. Snodgrass immediately went to the Putnam County Police and spoke with a Detective Taylor. And it was indeed this same detective that contacted Cobra this afternoon to inform him that there is an arrest warrant out for William Staubs.

Now Putnam County have decided to take Cobra to task. We in the news media following this case are mortified that this has happened. We are a close knit group and share information that does not always make the press. It has been well known that there is little love lost between the Putnam County cops and Cobra for quite some time. As I see it they would like nothing more than to get Cobra out of the picture, and this looks like their opening move.

Cobra is an honorable man and plans on turning himself in. The phone calls, emails, and text messages are flying so fast at the moment that I could only talk to Cobra for a couple of minutes. This whole story only erupted about an hour ago.

    I am scared brother, jail is not a good place for me

    I Just hope I don’t get shanked!

This incident happened weeks ago, why the delay? Well there has been some very bad blood flowing for the past couple of weeks between Cobra and some of the other players. This is neither the time nor the place to talk about that, but in my mind it is a contributing factor.

As I mentioned earlier, as more details come in, we will keep you updated.

Cobra’s current plan is to drive up to Putnam County first thing in the morning and surrender himself. My press friends will be there to report.

I class Cobra as a friend, and a very honorable person, this move is about as low as anyone can get.

You can bet that this will get a big splash from the media.

We here at BNN wish Cobra the best, and you can bet your bottom dollar we will be following this act of crass stupidity.

Why pick on someone that is just trying to help? I asked that question of another journalist friend this morning, and the reply was “I don’t know, you would think they would like the help”.

I am seething over this development, as are several other journalists. It does nothing to help find Haleigh Cummings, all it does is create another sideshow.

The question in my mind is why now? Well it might have something to do with a few comments he made on our radio show last Sunday, you can catch the recording here.

Simon Barrett

http://www.bloggernews.net/120971


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 21, 2009, 08:15:49 PM
Good Evening Monkey's..... Welcome new Monkey's.... ::MonkeyTongue::

With the the drugs ,drug dealers and revolving door in Putnam.. I want an internal

investigation done... Get rid of all the crooked cops ..... I am beginning to think

some of them are getting some sort of kick back with these drug dealers...JMO...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 21, 2009, 08:19:54 PM
O/T

Lake Como Man Locked in Shed by Burglars

2009-5-21 by: Lt. Johnny Greenwood

Lake Como – On Wednesday (5/20), A 75 year-old Lake Como man reported being locked in his storage shed by two juveniles while they burglarized his residence. The victim reported to Deputy Christie Bridges that he observed two juveniles walking down Lake Como Drive in front of his residence. One of the juveniles was a white male, and the other was a Hispanic male. The victim stated that he walked behind his residence and into his shed. While inside the shed, he heard the door closing behind him, and witnessed the white male pushing it shut. The victim report he was in the shed for 10-15 minutes before he was able to use a chainsaw to cut a hole in the door and crawl out. The victim discovered that his residence had been burglarized, and items were stolen from inside. Sheriff Jeff hardy assigned Major Crimes Detective Sheryl Daley to the investigation.

Anyone with information as to the identity of these two individuals is asked to call Crime stoppers at 888-277-TIPS (8477).

http://www.pcso.us/article.aspx?ArticleID=39


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 21, 2009, 08:20:35 PM
Other interesting information from over yonder ....... Ron's attorney has apparently advised him not to talk to LE, and Misty does not have a lawyer yet.
Good Afterneen Maven, The last I heard from Satsuma, Misty does have a lawyer, She hasnt said who yet or maybe they dropped her by now but she did have one.....I will find out for sure!

I see OVER YONDER has been visiting the Monkey's site.   ::MonkeyLaugh::  The obit that mlee posted was posted over yonder...WITH ALL THE ERRORS WITH IT.   ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 21, 2009, 08:21:19 PM
Good Evening Monkey's..... Welcome new Monkey's.... ::MonkeyTongue::

With the the drugs ,drug dealers and revolving door in Putnam.. I want an internal

investigation done... Get rid of all the crooked cops ..... I am beginning to think

some of them are getting some sort of kick back with these drug dealers...JMO...

Good evening JG!

 ITA!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 21, 2009, 08:21:50 PM
Other interesting information from over yonder ....... Ron's attorney has apparently advised him not to talk to LE, and Misty does not have a lawyer yet.
Good Afterneen Maven, The last I heard from Satsuma, Misty does have a lawyer, She hasnt said who yet or maybe they dropped her by now but she did have one.....I will find out for sure!

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: Probably one of those ..DIAL A LAWYER   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 21, 2009, 08:25:11 PM
N I C E  T O  S E E  Y O U  B R A N D I

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/welbac-1.gif)

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 21, 2009, 08:30:24 PM
Other interesting information from over yonder ....... Ron's attorney has apparently advised him not to talk to LE, and Misty does not have a lawyer yet.
Good Afterneen Maven, The last I heard from Satsuma, Misty does have a lawyer, She hasnt said who yet or maybe they dropped her by now but she did have one.....I will find out for sure!

I see OVER YONDER has been visiting the Monkey's site.   ::MonkeyLaugh::  The obit that mlee posted was posted over yonder...WITH ALL THE ERRORS WITH IT.   ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyLaugh::  I saw that, I am a bit behind over there, still got lots to read.  ::MonkeyTongue::  Did you see the letter from KP? I was wondering if HH had gotten the same thing.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 21, 2009, 08:30:27 PM
File Date: 2009-04-29 Disposition Date: 
File Type: DOM - FD05
Judge: A W NICHOLS III   

Plaintiffs
WHITMORE RENEA  Defendants
WHITMORE RICHARD 


Date Docket Description
2009-04-29 001.PETITION FOR DISSOLUTION OF MARRIAGE 

2009-04-29 002.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE 

2009-04-29 003.NOTICE OF SOCIAL SECURITY - PETITIONER 

2009-04-29 004.FINANCIAL AFFIDAVIT - PETITIONER 

2009-04-29 005.UNIFORM CHILD CUSTODY JURISDICTION/ENFORCEMENT AFFID. 

2009-04-29 008.REQUEST FOR SUMMONS TO BE ISSUED 

2009-04-29 006.PARENTING PLAN WITHOUT SIGNATURE 

2009-04-29 007.FILING FEE RECEIPT $418.00 

2009-05-05 009.SUMMONS ISSUED TO:RICHARD WHITMORE/FLAGLER COUNTY 

Hey Grama I am missing 2 more stars...... ::MonkeyTongue::




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 21, 2009, 08:31:09 PM
Other interesting information from over yonder ....... Ron's attorney has apparently advised him not to talk to LE, and Misty does not have a lawyer yet.
Good Afterneen Maven, The last I heard from Satsuma, Misty does have a lawyer, She hasnt said who yet or maybe they dropped her by now but she did have one.....I will find out for sure!

I see OVER YONDER has been visiting the Monkey's site.   ::MonkeyLaugh::  The obit that mlee posted was posted over yonder...WITH ALL THE ERRORS WITH IT.   ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 21, 2009, 08:31:49 PM
Good Evening Monkey's..... Welcome new Monkey's.... ::MonkeyTongue::

With the the drugs ,drug dealers and revolving door in Putnam.. I want an internal

investigation done... Get rid of all the crooked cops ..... I am beginning to think

some of them are getting some sort of kick back with these drug dealers...JMO...

(http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr140/TAFENN/AssKickin.gif)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 21, 2009, 08:33:35 PM
Good Evening Monkey's..... Welcome new Monkey's.... ::MonkeyTongue::

With the the drugs ,drug dealers and revolving door in Putnam.. I want an internal

investigation done... Get rid of all the crooked cops ..... I am beginning to think

some of them are getting some sort of kick back with these drug dealers...JMO...

Posted by: flordahboi at May. 17, 2009 at 1:44:15 am

This is Putnam County... When I use to come here to visit when I was little, I would always know when we were here because the road would start falling apart. All that we have here are bars, mud holes, and churches. Have you ever been to the Wal-Mart here? If you ever saw half of the people you see in our Wal-Mart anywhere else, you would think they were homeless or mentally handicapped or laugh at them, but it's normal here... Putnam county is FULL of white trash. It's a little white trash hick town. Their behavior isn't a surprise to anyone around here because it happens all the time. Half of my cousins are on drugs. I actually have a cousin who supports his girlfriend who's so bad on drugs she steals his check book and falsely claimed HIS unemployment while he was working to get money for drugs... Things like that happen all the time around here... That's why no one does anything about it. I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying that if you're raised around it, it's easier to accept it. They not only need to do something about their situation, but I believe Putnam County needs a ***** wake up call. Look at the two guys who got out of jail just recently. I've personally been to jail here and basically everyone in there knows each other because it is such a small town. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the C.O.'s helped the guys escape. The jail is FAR too inadequate as it is.... They don't even have an a/c... Just 3 fans in every cell block. It's basically a poor County and they have to be at least 50 years behind everyone else.

http://www.staugustine.com/stories/051609/news_051609_021.shtml


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 21, 2009, 08:34:47 PM
File Date: 2009-04-29 Disposition Date: 
File Type: DOM - FD05
Judge: A W NICHOLS III   

Plaintiffs
WHITMORE RENEA  Defendants
WHITMORE RICHARD 


Date Docket Description
2009-04-29 001.PETITION FOR DISSOLUTION OF MARRIAGE 

2009-04-29 002.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE 

2009-04-29 003.NOTICE OF SOCIAL SECURITY - PETITIONER 

2009-04-29 004.FINANCIAL AFFIDAVIT - PETITIONER 

2009-04-29 005.UNIFORM CHILD CUSTODY JURISDICTION/ENFORCEMENT AFFID. 

2009-04-29 008.REQUEST FOR SUMMONS TO BE ISSUED 

2009-04-29 006.PARENTING PLAN WITHOUT SIGNATURE 

2009-04-29 007.FILING FEE RECEIPT $418.00 

2009-05-05 009.SUMMONS ISSUED TO:RICHARD WHITMORE/FLAGLER COUNTY 

Hey Grama I am missing 2 more stars...... ::MonkeyTongue::




Thanks JG,  you deserve 5 more stars!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 21, 2009, 08:36:03 PM
File Date: 2009-04-29 Disposition Date: 
File Type: DOM - FD05
Judge: A W NICHOLS III   

Plaintiffs
WHITMORE RENEA  Defendants
WHITMORE RICHARD 


Date Docket Description
2009-04-29 001.PETITION FOR DISSOLUTION OF MARRIAGE 

2009-04-29 002.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE 

2009-04-29 003.NOTICE OF SOCIAL SECURITY - PETITIONER 

2009-04-29 004.FINANCIAL AFFIDAVIT - PETITIONER 

2009-04-29 005.UNIFORM CHILD CUSTODY JURISDICTION/ENFORCEMENT AFFID. 

2009-04-29 008.REQUEST FOR SUMMONS TO BE ISSUED 

2009-04-29 006.PARENTING PLAN WITHOUT SIGNATURE 

2009-04-29 007.FILING FEE RECEIPT $418.00 

2009-05-05 009.SUMMONS ISSUED TO:RICHARD WHITMORE/FLAGLER COUNTY 

Hey Grama I am missing 2 more stars...... ::MonkeyTongue::


 ::MonkeyLaugh::  Something to put in your signature line...

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa258/XlovexxbritfordX/stars-cartoon.gif)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 21, 2009, 08:36:12 PM
Other interesting information from over yonder ....... Ron's attorney has apparently advised him not to talk to LE, and Misty does not have a lawyer yet.
Good Afterneen Maven, The last I heard from Satsuma, Misty does have a lawyer, She hasnt said who yet or maybe they dropped her by now but she did have one.....I will find out for sure!

Thanks HH, good to see you here. Have you received an email from KP today about the blog and comments on bi-fuel and her husband?
Her husband does own it, but she said it has nothing to so with this case at all!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 08:37:28 PM
Other interesting information from over yonder ....... Ron's attorney has apparently advised him not to talk to LE, and Misty does not have a lawyer yet.
Good Afterneen Maven, The last I heard from Satsuma, Misty does have a lawyer, She hasnt said who yet or maybe they dropped her by now but she did have one.....I will find out for sure!

I see OVER YONDER has been visiting the Monkey's site.   ::MonkeyLaugh::  The obit that mlee posted was posted over yonder...WITH ALL THE ERRORS WITH IT.   ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue::

Oh Grama, that would be double posting, and they would be so mad if I went over and posted anything they had posted..  I hope their reading.. So, for the poster who took that to WS ..  "I paid for that obit... wanta split the fee?"  "That will be 3 bucks."


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 21, 2009, 08:39:29 PM
Mlee and gramma........................that there's funny..............I dont care who you are!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 08:42:43 PM
Mlee and gramma........................that there's funny..............I dont care who you are!!!

Do you think I should repost it, after I let my idiot inner child come out???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 21, 2009, 08:46:31 PM
Mlee and gramma........................that there's funny..............I dont care who you are!!!

Do you think I should repost it, after I let my idiot inner child come out???
I say go for it!!!!!!!  LOL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 21, 2009, 08:47:25 PM
Teresa Sykes  Search Date: 05/21/2009 Search Time: 5:46 PM
Location: FL Database: Marriage Records Full Results: Click Here
 

View all 10 marriage records for Teresa Sykes, which includes available information for:

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 21, 2009, 08:47:26 PM
Other interesting information from over yonder ....... Ron's attorney has apparently advised him not to talk to LE, and Misty does not have a lawyer yet.
Good Afterneen Maven, The last I heard from Satsuma, Misty does have a lawyer, She hasnt said who yet or maybe they dropped her by now but she did have one.....I will find out for sure!

Thanks HH, good to see you here. Have you received an email from KP today about the blog and comments on bi-fuel and her husband?
Her husband does own it, but she said it has nothing to so with this case at all!

I was just wondering if you got the same email that other people have, someone posted the letter. I was sure whatever they were talking about had nothing to do with Haleigh anyway, but that email helped to clear it all up.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 08:49:23 PM
Mlee and gramma........................that there's funny..............I dont care who you are!!!

Do you think I should repost it, after I let my idiot inner child come out???
I say go for it!!!!!!!  LOL

you know I can move those names around until they can't tell who was who....  Heck, I thought I was losing it this morning just trying to get them straight in my mind.  Took me 4 post to get it almost straight..  And 2 pages later Cookie came in found one of the middle  postings  and straightened me right out, for sure.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 21, 2009, 08:50:13 PM
Other interesting information from over yonder ....... Ron's attorney has apparently advised him not to talk to LE, and Misty does not have a lawyer yet.
Good Afterneen Maven, The last I heard from Satsuma, Misty does have a lawyer, She hasnt said who yet or maybe they dropped her by now but she did have one.....I will find out for sure!

Thanks HH, good to see you here. Have you received an email from KP today about the blog and comments on bi-fuel and her husband?
Her husband does own it, but she said it has nothing to so with this case at all!

I was just wondering if you got the same email that other people have, someone posted the letter. I was sure whatever they were talking about had nothing to do with Haleigh anyway, but that email helped to clear it all up.
Yep, and I think if they think bi-fuel could have anything to do with Haleigh missing, I think someone is really reaching....lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 21, 2009, 08:52:23 PM
Well the person who wrote the glowing report for Putnam County that Heart posted, sure wouldn't be asked to write a report for the travel bureau  ::MonkeyEek:: That was a little harsh  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 21, 2009, 08:59:39 PM


Breaking News - Haleigh Cummings – More Insanity In Putnam County

Posted on May 21st, 2009
by Simon Barrett in Society and Culture

OK, this is hitting a little close to home. Now it is the good guys that are getting the raw deal. Not all the facts are in, but it looks like William “Cobra” Staubs is headed to jail. In what I can only call the stupidest piece of police work in history they are slapping a false imprisonment rap on him!

At some point there was a communication by the insurance company and Cobra. Cobra talked to the offender and when he got lippy, Cobra cuffed him. It seems that the insurance company then got cold feet, and asked Cobra to release him, in fact drive him home. The offender was quickly released by Cobra.

It transpires that the accused, a Mr. Snodgrass immediately went to the Putnam County Police and spoke with a Detective Taylor. And it was indeed this same detective that contacted Cobra this afternoon to inform him that there is an arrest warrant out for William Staubs.

Now Putnam County have decided to take Cobra to task. We in the news media following this case are mortified that this has happened. We are a close knit group and share information that does not always make the press. It has been well known that there is little love lost between the Putnam County cops and Cobra for quite some time. As I see it they would like nothing more than to get Cobra out of the picture, and this looks like their opening move.

Cobra is an honorable man and plans on turning himself in. The phone calls, emails, and text messages are flying so fast at the moment that I could only talk to Cobra for a couple of minutes. This whole story only erupted about an hour ago.

Simon Barrett

http://www.bloggernews.net/120971

Ok, this really p's me off.  In my opinion Cobra is a good guy.  My thoughts on why this Snodgrass guy is doing this is either
-He has something to do with the Haleigh case and doesn't want Cobra snooping around his door.
or
-He thinks he can use his case against Cobra to get off easier on the other pending charges against him.

Now I know who I'm going to research next!
It was said that the police was sure he wasn't in the area because of the collar he was wearing, but did they go back and check the records to see if he was ever in her area?  And even cobra said that he wouldn't trust those collars because they have some kind of delay on them that allow someone to get away that he was chasing once.  And I'm still thinking that if this guy had anything to do with Haleighs disappearance that there might have been someone else involved.  I think and hope that Cobra will get out as soon as he goes in because he knows the bonding laws so well. 
Stay strong Cobra, and God Bless you, I know you are the good guy!  I can't wait to hear you on simon barretts show again!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 09:01:10 PM
Well the person who wrote the glowing report for Putnam County that Heart posted, sure wouldn't be asked to write a report for the travel bureau  ::MonkeyEek:: That was a little harsh  ::MonkeyRoll::

I give you my word, if I were going to florida for any reason, I would it Florida on 95 and make the first right turn and head straight for the gulf and then head south, you wouldn't catch me any where near putnam county. I have a sister that lives down there, and thank Heavens she was smart enought to move over near Tampa, now I hope she gets even smarter and moves the heck out of Florida.... ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 21, 2009, 09:01:31 PM
Well the person who wrote the glowing report for Putnam County that Heart posted, sure wouldn't be asked to write a report for the travel bureau  ::MonkeyEek:: That was a little harsh  ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: It really does seem a bit harsh, but from what we've learned so far, maybe not too far from fact. But yeah I don't think they'll be getting a job offer from Putnam Tourism any time soon.  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 09:08:53 PM
Well the person who wrote the glowing report for Putnam County that Heart posted, sure wouldn't be asked to write a report for the travel bureau  ::MonkeyEek:: That was a little harsh  ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: It really does seem a bit harsh, but from what we've learned so far, maybe not too far from fact. But yeah I don't think they'll be getting a job offer from Putnam Tourism any time soon.  ::MonkeyDevil::

You know Maven, we could start just dividing up the folks in Satsuma,  We could put all the Predators on the South side,  all the Druggies and ladies of the night, walking around in broad dayling, on the west side, the regular Criminals on the east side.. Tell you the truth, I think the south and west and east would overlap the North, so I guess we don't have a place to put the good people, will have to move all the good people to Miami.  Then the Le won't have to worry about putting the good people in jail, there won't be any available.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 21, 2009, 09:10:36 PM
Mlee and gramma........................that there's funny..............I dont care who you are!!!

  ::MonkeyShocked::    ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyTongue::    :smt046

I can't believe they didn't read a couple of posts down and see where we were talking about how messed up it was.
That's just too funny, well Mlee I guess it was worth it after all just for that!  ::MonkeyLaugh::
Did I read that Brandi is back?  Hey  :smt039 Welcome Back Brandi, we missed you!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 21, 2009, 09:13:55 PM
mlee,    Im hurt,   I have lived in Florida my entire life and have never encountered any people like this, oh Ive seen a few bad ones and some riled up red necks and good ole boys that fight and I mean fight, but not like these folks,      anyway.........you talk about crime.....Miami , now thats crime right there.......oh no you couldnt hog tie me and throw me in Miami!!!!!!lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 09:25:13 PM
mlee,    Im hurt,   I have lived in Florida my entire life and have never encountered any people like this, oh Ive seen a few bad ones and some riled up red necks and good ole boys that fight and I mean fight, but not like these folks,      anyway.........you talk about crime.....Miami , now thats crime right there.......oh no you couldnt hog tie me and throw me in Miami!!!!!!lol

Sweety, don't be hurt.. you don't have to live in Satsuma.  Going to give you a little taste of what I am referring to.  Our lady who lives in Satsuma, "Our Eyes of Satsuma", This is what she had to say.. And I do worry about her welfare... and her and her families safety.

"I looked up Land Clearing, Timber, Logging for Crescent City addresses/phone numbers.  Many
places did not have an address listed, just phone number in the yellow pages.  Thomas Tree Service,
Timberfalls, Southern Tree & Stump were shown.  I also found Mills & Sons Land Clearing in Welaka and
Phillip & Son Land Clearing in Crescent City   Some phone numbers are cell and don't show an exchange.
Thomas Tree Service is very close to me and I know of them personally as they are in the neighborhood.
They are strongly suspected of involvment.  One girl/woman came out on the street as my husband was
going by and propositioned him after stopping him   Also another neighbor who owns land adjacent to me,
((edit)), has been robbed twice and the persons were found living at that residence, 132 Pomona
Landing Rd.  ((edit))personally told me she was threatened by them.  You can verify what I say
by looking at the GIS map.   If you need to quote anything, please only use the first three sentences
of this paragraph.  There is much more to the story than I am mentioning right now.  LE knows and
watches the residence. There are several of us in the neighborhood that are concerned about the
activities and retaliations of the Thomas clan."
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 21, 2009, 09:25:48 PM

Annette Sykes, father's obit from www.findagrave.com  IMO

Birth:  unknown
Death:  Dec. 8, 2002

George Robert Stallings, 93, of Welaka died Sunday, December 8, 2002 at the residence of his son in Francis following an extended illness.

He was a native of Lowell County, Georgia. He served in the U.S. Navy on the U.S.S. Missouri.
He later owned and operated a barber shop in Boston, Ga. before moving to Brunswick, Ga., where he worked in a defense plant for several years.

He had been a resident of Putnam County for the past 59 years, first living in Francis and after 1968 in Welaka, where he had been a member of the Welaka Baptist Church for many years. He worked for the City of Palatka as a policeman up until 1948 when he went to work at the former Hudson Pulp and Paper Corp. in Palatka. He helped to construct the mill and remained employed there until 1959 when he retired on disability.

He was preceded in death by his wives: Iliff Stallings, Martha Stallings and Vera Stallings; one daughter: Hildred Stallings; and one son: George Martin Stallings.

He is survived by four sons and daughters-in-law: Carl and Neville Stallings, Wayman and Jean Stallings, and Ormand and Ruby Stallings, all of Francis; and Homer and Brenda Stallings, Satsuma; one daughter: Annette Sykes, Welaka; 18 grandchildren; 39 great grandchildren and 11 great great grandchildren.
Flowers are gratefully accepted or memorial gifts may be sent to Hospice of the Lakes, 6400 St. Johns Ave., Palatka, FL 32177.

Calling hours will be from 5 until 7 p.m., Wednesday at Masters Funeral Home, Palatka.
Funeral services will be 11 a.m., Thursday, Dec. 12 at the funeral home, with the Rev. Sonny Pipkins officiating.

In honor of Mr. Stallings life a video tribute will be shown during the service.
Interment will follow in Palatka Memorial Gardens.
Masters Funeral Home of Palatka is in charge of arrangements
 
Burial:
Palatka Memorial Gardens
Palatka
Putnam County
Florida, USA
 
Created by: Kristy Thomas
Record added: Mar 02, 2008
Find A Grave Memorial# 24993154
 

Great job seahorse!  So this is Why he Gave Annette and Myles property for the sum of love and affection, he was her dad.  He died close to the time when Myles Sykes did.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 21, 2009, 09:35:12 PM
mlee,    Im hurt,   I have lived in Florida my entire life and have never encountered any people like this, oh Ive seen a few bad ones and some riled up red necks and good ole boys that fight and I mean fight, but not like these folks,      anyway.........you talk about crime.....Miami , now thats crime right there.......oh no you couldnt hog tie me and throw me in Miami!!!!!!lol

Sweety, don't be hurt.. you don't have to live in Satsuma.  Going to give you a little taste of what I am referring to.  Our lady who lives in Satsuma, "Our Eyes of Satsuma", This is what she had to say.. And I do worry about her welfare... and her and her families safety.

"I looked up Land Clearing, Timber, Logging for Crescent City addresses/phone numbers.  Many
places did not have an address listed, just phone number in the yellow pages.  Thomas Tree Service,
Timberfalls, Southern Tree & Stump were shown.  I also found Mills & Sons Land Clearing in Welaka and
Phillip & Son Land Clearing in Crescent City   Some phone numbers are cell and don't show an exchange.
Thomas Tree Service is very close to me and I know of them personally as they are in the neighborhood.
They are strongly suspected of involvment.  One girl/woman came out on the street as my husband was
going by and propositioned him after stopping him   Also another neighbor who owns land adjacent to me,
((edit)), has been robbed twice and the persons were found living at that residence, 132 Pomona
Landing Rd.  ((edit)) personally told me she was threatened by them.  You can verify what I say
by looking at the GIS map.   If you need to quote anything, please only use the first three sentences
of this paragraph.  There is much more to the story than I am mentioning right now.  LE knows and
watches the residence. There are several of us in the neighborhood that are concerned about the
activities and retaliations of the Thomas clan."
 

That kind of stuff goes on in every small town, it doesnt mean alot, just know they are there and sont be associated with them, there's also alot of good older people that live in that area and this kind of stuff never touches them, true its worse in Satsuma then some other small towns, but really to understand small town life you have to live there......its different then you could know if you arent from one.........my friend lives in Palatka and I have always been associated with this area but I never knew anyone in Satsuma or even knew what went on there!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: alagary on May 21, 2009, 09:37:13 PM
I don't want to stack quotes so I'll just say this , Cobra should not have cuffed Snodgrass for getting " lippy " . Didn't know that was a crime .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 21, 2009, 09:38:22 PM

Annette Sykes, father's obit from www.findagrave.com  IMO

Birth:  unknown
Death:  Dec. 8, 2002

George Robert Stallings, 93, of Welaka died Sunday, December 8, 2002 at the residence of his son in Francis following an extended illness.

He was a native of Lowell County, Georgia. He served in the U.S. Navy on the U.S.S. Missouri.
He later owned and operated a barber shop in Boston, Ga. before moving to Brunswick, Ga., where he worked in a defense plant for several years.

He had been a resident of Putnam County for the past 59 years, first living in Francis and after 1968 in Welaka, where he had been a member of the Welaka Baptist Church for many years. He worked for the City of Palatka as a policeman up until 1948 when he went to work at the former Hudson Pulp and Paper Corp. in Palatka. He helped to construct the mill and remained employed there until 1959 when he retired on disability.

He was preceded in death by his wives: Iliff Stallings, Martha Stallings and Vera Stallings; one daughter: Hildred Stallings; and one son: George Martin Stallings.

He is survived by four sons and daughters-in-law: Carl and Neville Stallings, Wayman and Jean Stallings, and Ormand and Ruby Stallings, all of Francis; and Homer and Brenda Stallings, Satsuma; one daughter: Annette Sykes, Welaka; 18 grandchildren; 39 great grandchildren and 11 great great grandchildren.
Flowers are gratefully accepted or memorial gifts may be sent to Hospice of the Lakes, 6400 St. Johns Ave., Palatka, FL 32177.

Calling hours will be from 5 until 7 p.m., Wednesday at Masters Funeral Home, Palatka.
Funeral services will be 11 a.m., Thursday, Dec. 12 at the funeral home, with the Rev. Sonny Pipkins officiating.

In honor of Mr. Stallings life a video tribute will be shown during the service.
Interment will follow in Palatka Memorial Gardens.
Masters Funeral Home of Palatka is in charge of arrangements
 
Burial:
Palatka Memorial Gardens
Palatka
Putnam County
Florida, USA
 
Created by: Kristy Thomas
Record added: Mar 02, 2008
Find A Grave Memorial# 24993154
 

Great job seahorse!  So this is Why he Gave Annette and Myles property for the sum of love and affection, he was her dad.  He died close to the time when Myles Sykes did.

So I wonder what the rate of pay was as a Policeman vs a pulp and paper Corp. back when?
(Them are some mighty deep roots right there though.)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 21, 2009, 09:52:40 PM
I don't want to stack quotes so I'll just say this , Cobra should not have cuffed Snodgrass for getting " lippy " . Didn't know that was a crime .
I really am not sure what to think about all this  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 09:53:16 PM
mlee,    Im hurt,   I have lived in Florida my entire life and have never encountered any people like this, oh Ive seen a few bad ones and some riled up red necks and good ole boys that fight and I mean fight, but not like these folks,      anyway.........you talk about crime.....Miami , now thats crime right there.......oh no you couldnt hog tie me and throw me in Miami!!!!!!lol

Sweety, don't be hurt.. you don't have to live in Satsuma.  Going to give you a little taste of what I am referring to.  Our lady who lives in Satsuma, "Our Eyes of Satsuma", This is what she had to say.. And I do worry about her welfare... and her and her families safety.

"I looked up Land Clearing, Timber, Logging for Crescent City addresses/phone numbers.  Many
places did not have an address listed, just phone number in the yellow pages.  Thomas Tree Service,
Timberfalls, Southern Tree & Stump were shown.  I also found Mills & Sons Land Clearing in Welaka and
Phillip & Son Land Clearing in Crescent City   Some phone numbers are cell and don't show an exchange.
Thomas Tree Service is very close to me and I know of them personally as they are in the neighborhood.
They are strongly suspected of involvment.  One girl/woman came out on the street as my husband was
going by and propositioned him after stopping him   Also another neighbor who owns land adjacent to me,
((edit)), has been robbed twice and the persons were found living at that residence, 132 Pomona
Landing Rd.  ((edit))personally told me she was threatened by them.  You can verify what I say
by looking at the GIS map.   If you need to quote anything, please only use the first three sentences
of this paragraph.  There is much more to the story than I am mentioning right now.  LE knows and
watches the residence. There are several of us in the neighborhood that are concerned about the
activities and retaliations of the Thomas clan."
 

That kind of stuff goes on in every small town, it doesnt mean alot, just know they are there and sont be associated with them, there's also alot of good older people that live in that area and this kind of stuff never touches them, true its worse in Satsuma then some other small towns, but really to understand small town life you have to live there......its different then you could know if you arent from one.........my friend lives in Palatka and I have always been associated with this area but I never knew anyone in Satsuma or even knew what went on there!

After all we have researched and learned about the area, this doesn't make you think.. This cannot be the average typical community. The amount of predators alone in a small area is terrifing, the criminal element is vast, and it appears there is a larger than life community of drug activitiy.  All in one small community.  And to be so small, suddenly there is a child that disappears, and no one knows anything.  The good people that live in that area, do not deserve to have to put up with this, and apparently,
Le has not been effective for so long, they all run rampant.  It's like watching the horses get out of the corral, and waiting  10 years to gather them back up and put them back in the corral..  Their numbers have grown, they have run the community and forced it into sumission for so long, that they know who the Le is, when they go to work, when they get off work, when they will show up at the local hang outs, where they live, who their families are, where their children go to school. And when you have the career element in charge, you have money that is available to turn a head, and not see whats going on.  So, what was at one time a law biding community, and a haven for raising children.  Does not exist any longer.  And it would be fearful to walk down the street at night, or possible even drive.  Why were you encouraged so intently to be careful when you visit that community. Why did you feel safer having your son go with you.  Because, you were not safe even visiting.  These people don't like stranger coming into their little world.. Disrups their lifestyle and business.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 21, 2009, 10:14:38 PM
mlee,  you have taken what I have said wrong, I said Satsuma is more dangerous then other small town and that is the reason I will take  my son with me, The point I was trying to make is that, the low life people that we are hearing about are very aware as to who they can mess with and who they cant, the older more prevalent people of the community dont really know about the underbelly folks of the area because these trouble makers know better than to mess with these people because they have the money and the power to bring things down on them and so they look one way and the older ones look another and they act like each other dont exist....this is why I say they are good people there, but if your not from there then yea, trouble........   This town needs to be cleaned up,  but some of the trouble makers are related to money and they will just get out............thats just how it is in these twons.....thats how it has always been!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 21, 2009, 10:25:48 PM
Welp if I am reading this correctly in the early 1940's the going rate of pay for police officers was $22.50+ per week per FLPD history.

http://ci.ftlaud.fl.us/POLICE/history.html

Without going into a history lesson on the pulp and paper corps at the time they seemed to be doing well coming out of the depression. It was unhealthy to the workers and waste by products were being emitted into the water ways. YUCK! I read a few hints about segreating workers ect... I am thinking pay was near or around minimum wage at that time which was .75 per hour.

Pop's took a pay cut that's for sure.

 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 10:27:54 PM
mlee,  you have taken what I have said wrong, I said Satsuma is more dangerous then other small town and that is the reason I will take  my son with me, The point I was trying to make is that, the low life people that we are hearing about are very aware as to who they can mess with and who they cant, the older more prevalent people of the community dont really know about the underbelly folks of the area because these trouble makers know better than to mess with these people because they have the money and the power to bring things down on them and so they look one way and the older ones look another and they act like each other dont exist....this is why I say they are good people there, but if your not from there then yea, trouble........   This town needs to be cleaned up,  but some of the trouble makers are related to money and they will just get out............thats just how it is in these twons.....thats how it has always been!!

And that alone is frightening.  They do have control, and this is the first time in their reality that the town is under such an intense eye, its nationwide.  They have the options to clean that town up, how, it would really be tough.. I do think that Cobra showed the country what was really in that town.  He is big and stocky and loud, but I do think his intentions have been honorable.  And apparently, he either stepped on toes or he stepped out of line.. I don't know.. I do know they wanted him out... But, Why???

The small town I was born in, is deep deep south, most of the kids really don't obtain an education, school was never a priority, I imagine it has its amount of drug activity and criminal element, but it didn't when I was a kid. My Great grandmother came from Holmes County, Florida, her Father died there in the civil war, so we do have history there. 

But, all little towns that are allowed to be ruled by the under element is frightening, and this is one of them.  From what we have seen so far, we have to wonder how many of their kids actually have a chance of living normal lives.  There has to be a group of great kids, who will graduate and go off to college, but those kids won't return to this town.  They won't want to raise their children where their children are not safe.  I believe the families that continue to live in the same community that ron and misty and the children lived, are virtually frightened for their children.. daily.. fearful at night,  will this happen again.. Why that family.. they just moved in? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 21, 2009, 10:39:43 PM
mlee,    holmes county........do you mean like chipley or vernon.......thats where my sons family is from and have always been from..........nice small town and with the same problem........kids and drugs and alot of partying.......but when I use to go there to visit his family.......I didnt see that part of it, because his family was one of the older families from there an did not associate with the underbelly, but the younger generation....oh boy........yep same thing.....just not as bad..........Yep  they need to do something to clean this up........its needs to be addressed at all these small town meetings and   get the local police officers out and new officers in that  have no connection with the town itself!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 21, 2009, 10:40:20 PM
I don't want to stack quotes so I'll just say this , Cobra should not have cuffed Snodgrass for getting " lippy " . Didn't know that was a crime .

If he did anything wrong, then he shouldn't have your right.  Does that licence that some articles have mentioned that cobra has, given to him by the state of FL, allow him to defend himself if he believes he is in danger like a police office can?  If so, did he think he was in danger?   Maybe that was why he detained snodgrass.  Was the bail bonds company telling him they wanted to bring snod in when this happened and then after he was cuffed said never mind?  if that was the case then cobra should be let off the hook because it was not his fault.  I personally don't know, but we know that this snodgrass is a shady character and is just looking to deal up some trouble for the good guy. 

To all the Bad guys out there looking into the monkey cage
YOU WILL NOT WIN, IN THE END THE GOOD WILL PREVAIL!  THE EYES OF AMERICA IS ON YOUR LITTLE SMALL TOWN AND THE WIND OF CHANGE IS COMING!!! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 21, 2009, 10:49:58 PM
Welp if I am reading this correctly in the early 1940's the going rate of pay for police officers was $22.50+ per week per FLPD history.

http://ci.ftlaud.fl.us/POLICE/history.html

Without going into a history lesson on the pulp and paper corps at the time they seemed to be doing well coming out of the depression. It was unhealthy to the workers and waste by products were being emitted into the water ways. YUCK! I read a few hints about segreating workers ect... I am thinking pay was near or around minimum wage at that time which was .75 per hour.

Pop's took a pay cut that's for sure.

 
I could not find the link to Hudson Pulp and Paper Corp earlier so the history used for pulp and paper factories was derived from a website that had done a generalized study.
Read here about Hudson Pulp and Paper if you are interested:

The Color of Work: The Struggle for Civil Rights in the ...
At Hudson Pulp and Paper Company in Palatka, Florida, black workers related that they .... Collis C. Jordan was hired at Union Camp in 1948, working as, ...... “ I have been employed at the Union Bag—Camp Paper Corporation for 17 and a half ...... Because the lines had been merged on the basis of existing pay rates, ...

www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&se=gglsc&d=100743302

Interesting...The First Coast Community Credit Union was founded by a group of employees from The Hudson Pulp and Paper Company.

http://www.firstcoastccu.com/pdfs/FirstNews-Fall-2006.pdf

(Just throwing this stuff out there.)






Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 10:57:46 PM
Welp if I am reading this correctly in the early 1940's the going rate of pay for police officers was $22.50+ per week per FLPD history.

http://ci.ftlaud.fl.us/POLICE/history.html

Without going into a history lesson on the pulp and paper corps at the time they seemed to be doing well coming out of the depression. It was unhealthy to the workers and waste by products were being emitted into the water ways. YUCK! I read a few hints about segreating workers ect... I am thinking pay was near or around minimum wage at that time which was .75 per hour.

Pop's took a pay cut that's for sure.

 

1976 fresh out of the Academy,  Monthly wage was $515.00 a month.....  Cops don't go to work for big salary's.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 21, 2009, 10:59:33 PM
I don't want to stack quotes so I'll just say this , Cobra should not have cuffed Snodgrass for getting " lippy " . Didn't know that was a crime .

If he did anything wrong, then he shouldn't have your right.  Does that licence that some articles have mentioned that cobra has, given to him by the state of FL, allow him to defend himself if he believes he is in danger like a police office can?  If so, did he think he was in danger?   Maybe that was why he detained snodgrass.  Was the bail bonds company telling him they wanted to bring snod in when this happened and then after he was cuffed said never mind?  if that was the case then cobra should be let off the hook because it was not his fault.  I personally don't know, but we know that this snodgrass is a shady character and is just looking to deal up some trouble for the good guy. 

To all the Bad guys out there looking into the monkey cage
YOU WILL NOT WIN, IN THE END THE GOOD WILL PREVAIL!  THE EYES OF AMERICA IS ON YOUR LITTLE SMALL TOWN AND THE WIND OF CHANGE IS COMING!!! 

Yes, thats the reason you have to handle these kind of people with kid gloves, just like the Cummings, they know what you can and can not do to them, they know the law, that education comes from breaking it so many times, if your not allowed to do something to them, then by all means dont do it......they will call you on it.........thats why right now, the LE is finding it hard to get people to cooperate in this case, they are all or have been criminals in the past and if nothing else, they know the law......LE has  to dot their i's and cross their t's for their own protection!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 21, 2009, 11:03:37 PM
Welp if I am reading this correctly in the early 1940's the going rate of pay for police officers was $22.50+ per week per FLPD history.

http://ci.ftlaud.fl.us/POLICE/history.html

Without going into a history lesson on the pulp and paper corps at the time they seemed to be doing well coming out of the depression. It was unhealthy to the workers and waste by products were being emitted into the water ways. YUCK! I read a few hints about segreating workers ect... I am thinking pay was near or around minimum wage at that time which was .75 per hour.

Pop's took a pay cut that's for sure.

 

1976 fresh out of the Academy,  Monthly wage was $515.00 a month.....  Cops don't go to work for big salary's.....
Sure but the sucky ratio's were what they were and are what they are.
Even $515.00 a month was better than minimum wage at that time. (slightly anyway.)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 21, 2009, 11:05:45 PM
snipped...JNGA's response regarding Snodgrass.

Ok, this really p's me off.  In my opinion Cobra is a good guy.  My thoughts on why this Snodgrass guy is doing this is either
-He has something to do with the Haleigh case and doesn't want Cobra snooping around his door.
or
-He thinks he can use his case against Cobra to get off easier on the other pending charges against him.

Now I know who I'm going to research next!
It was said that the police was sure he wasn't in the area because of the collar he was wearing, but did they go back and check the records to see if he was ever in her area?  And even cobra said that he wouldn't trust those collars because they have some kind of delay on them that allow someone to get away that he was chasing once.  And I'm still thinking that if this guy had anything to do with Haleighs disappearance that there might have been someone else involved.  I think and hope that Cobra will get out as soon as he goes in because he knows the bonding laws so well. 
Stay strong Cobra, and God Bless you, I know you are the good guy!  I can't wait to hear you on simon barretts show again!
 
 EVERY TIME I read the comment (that I put in red) MY EYES OPEN WIDE....My thinking cap goes on....and I ask the same question, over and over again!!!!

Maybe Snodgrass and other S/O were INDEED IN THEIR AREA....BUT show me where it is proven that SOMEONE DID NOT GO TO THEIR PLACE OF RESIDENCE...NOR MEET ONE OF THESE OFFENDERS SOMEWHERE ELSE.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 21, 2009, 11:15:22 PM
snipped...JNGA's response regarding Snodgrass.

Ok, this really p's me off.  In my opinion Cobra is a good guy.  My thoughts on why this Snodgrass guy is doing this is either
-He has something to do with the Haleigh case and doesn't want Cobra snooping around his door.
or
-He thinks he can use his case against Cobra to get off easier on the other pending charges against him.

Now I know who I'm going to research next!
It was said that the police was sure he wasn't in the area because of the collar he was wearing, but did they go back and check the records to see if he was ever in her area?  And even cobra said that he wouldn't trust those collars because they have some kind of delay on them that allow someone to get away that he was chasing once.  And I'm still thinking that if this guy had anything to do with Haleighs disappearance that there might have been someone else involved.  I think and hope that Cobra will get out as soon as he goes in because he knows the bonding laws so well. 
Stay strong Cobra, and God Bless you, I know you are the good guy!  I can't wait to hear you on simon barretts show again!
 
 EVERY TIME I read the comment (that I put in red) MY EYES OPEN WIDE....My thinking cap goes on....and I ask the same question, over and over again!!!!

Maybe Snodgrass and other S/O were INDEED IN THEIR AREA....BUT show me where it is proven that SOMEONE DID NOT GO TO THEIR PLACE OF RESIDENCE...NOR MEET ONE OF THESE OFFENDERS SOMEWHERE ELSE.



I'm so P/O about what is happening to Cobra that I could just spit. What the heck is going on in ol' Palutka? That's what I am thinking. Here they have a guy who is doing whatever he can to help find this little girl and they go and arrest him for trying to do what he does best? Cobra had the right to arrest the guy. He hadn't come to the HB center just that one time from what I understood Snodgrass had been there several times. At which point is it considered tresspassing, harrassment anyway? My my my I guess the LE there could care less if this Snodgrass guy, who by the way, is schedualed to appear in court for sex crimes, is causing a woman who's young Daughter is missing to be terrified even further?
GET A CLUE PALATKA!
The guy was asked to get off the property more than once!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 21, 2009, 11:18:38 PM
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome

Seahorse

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Thank you for your already posted contributions!


Heart,

Thank-you, very much. I Love the Seahorse, Thank-you!
It was a lucky day for me that I found the information, almost, like it was mean't to be. 

God Bless, Seahorse


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 21, 2009, 11:18:54 PM
And Satsuma too!
(Can ya tell I am mad?)
Putnam county any ol ways darn it!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 21, 2009, 11:24:21 PM
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome

Seahorse

(http://oilocean.com/index/digital/colors/seahorse.gif)

Thank you for your already posted contributions!


Heart,

Thank-you, very much. I Love the Seahorse, Thank-you!
It was a lucky day for me that I found the information, almost, like it was mean't to be. 

God Bless, Seahorse

Hiya Seahorse. Nice to meet you and great work BTW!
I look forward to reading your posts :)
(I'm a newbie too.)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 21, 2009, 11:29:11 PM
mlee,    holmes county........do you mean like chipley or vernon.......thats where my sons family is from and have always been from..........nice small town and with the same problem........kids and drugs and alot of partying.......but when I use to go there to visit his family.......I didnt see that part of it, because his family was one of the older families from there an did not associate with the underbelly, but the younger generation....oh boy........yep same thing.....just not as bad..........Yep  they need to do something to clean this up........its needs to be addressed at all these small town meetings and   get the local police officers out and new officers in that  have no connection with the town itself!!

You hit it on the head, Vernon.. My Mother's family Brister's and Austins settled there in 1849, and fam is still there. My Great grandmother was a Hall from Holmes, they had migrated down from Apling County, Ga. And then onto La.  Of course for Vernon it makes it rougher with Ft. Polk right at hand.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 21, 2009, 11:40:04 PM
mlee,    holmes county........do you mean like chipley or vernon.......thats where my sons family is from and have always been from..........nice small town and with the same problem........kids and drugs and alot of partying.......but when I use to go there to visit his family.......I didnt see that part of it, because his family was one of the older families from there an did not associate with the underbelly, but the younger generation....oh boy........yep same thing.....just not as bad..........Yep  they need to do something to clean this up........its needs to be addressed at all these small town meetings and   get the local police officers out and new officers in that  have no connection with the town itself!!

You hit it on the head, Vernon.. My Mother's family Brister's and Austins settled there in 1849, and fam is still there. My Great grandmother was a Hall from Holmes, they had migrated down from Apling County, Ga. And then onto La.  Of course for Vernon it makes it rougher with Ft. Polk right at hand.
Cool,   Ive heard of a few Halls and some Bristols,  thats great,   My sons family is the Sheffields and Tuckers, if you've  ever heard of them some are from  Chipley and Panama city Beach.......but they were raised up in the sand hills of Vernon!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 21, 2009, 11:45:16 PM
 ::MonkeyLaugh::   OM Goodness, mlee....did you just find out that you and Higher Hopes are related????  and that the Sheffields are part of it????

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 21, 2009, 11:52:36 PM
::MonkeyLaugh::   OM Goodness, mlee....did you just find out that you and Higher Hopes are related????  and that the Sheffields are part of it????

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
uhhhhh    no  Grama not those Sheffields and they arent my family.....I said my sons family, I havent been married to his father for 17 years..........no no no no..................no way ........lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 21, 2009, 11:55:03 PM
Good evening monkeys!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 22, 2009, 12:03:18 AM
the quote stack was already long so I snipped only the obit from a few pages back...

Birth:  unknown
Death:  Jul. 27, 2007

Robert B. "Bob" Welfenberg, 64, of Palatka, died Friday, July 27, 2007, at his residence.

Born in St. Louis, Mo., Mr. Welfenberg settled here in the early 1970s after his military service. He was a U.S. Army veteran of the Vietnam Conflict. In 2006 he retired as an engineering technician from PDM Bridge in Palatka after 27 years of service. When he was young, Bob was a cowboy and a rodeo rider. He was a Baptist. He was formerly active at the First Baptist Church in Hollister where he ministered to the young people. He enjoyed fishing. The two main things in Bob's life were his family and his work.

He was preceded in death by his parents, Walter and Angela Welfenberg, who were married 59 years.

Sorry the link I posted is not in operation, try www.findagrave.com and name, etc.

same company Ron was working for uhmmmm???? ::MonkeyEek::
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 22, 2009, 12:04:41 AM
::MonkeyLaugh::   OM Goodness, mlee....did you just find out that you and Higher Hopes are related????  and that the Sheffields are part of it????

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa::
uhhhhh    no  Grama not those Sheffields and they arent my family.....I said my sons family, I havent been married to his father for 17 years..........no no no no..................no way ........lol

Just had to get that poke in there, I knew it wasn't true HH.   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 22, 2009, 12:06:55 AM
I was reading on blogger news and someone asked if anyone saw the letter Kim Picazio put out today, has anyone seen a letter? where would she put it out? I can't find it ugh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 22, 2009, 12:13:38 AM
Here's the letter you were looking for from Kim P.


My Husband is involved in a start up bio-fuel company. The only thing
anyone could ever find on him or us is that we have funded the HB Center,
and this litigation, out of our own pockets. Big conspiracy, huh? Yes -
we’ve given funds and goodwill to the Haleigh Cummings case, and to the
Sheffield family, when no other lawyer would step up on a pro bono basis.
They have no funds to hire a lawyer, now or in the past. They pay me
nothing. They do not have enough funds through donations or otherwise, to
fund the Haleigh Bug Center. I did that because I wanted to for Crystal.
It was therapeutic for her. It was also a good idea, in hindsight, for the
Satsuma community, which was ripe for a central locale to convene, hold
hands, and give support to the search for a child that went missing in their
town. I agreed to represent Crystal Sheffield for free (even declining
offers from people demanding to send me litigation funds), because my family
has is fortunate to have enough resources to take on the endeavor.

I’ve taken time away from my own family to help another mother with a
missing child, I have paid for the entire set up of the Haleigh Bug Center,
and just paid the rent and electric bill out of my own personal account, I
have paid additional staff to work on the case, I’ve paid for months of
hotel rooms for all of us, purchased office equipment, computers, printers,
private investigators, etc. to assist the Mother’s effort to find her
daughter and protect her son living with Ronald Cummings and Misty, and now
I am paying for the entire establishment Haleigh Bug Foundation, filling out
IRS forms, applications with the Department of this or that, for hours of my
every working day. My Husband has even utilized his own staff at his
company to assist with phone calls, emails, government forms, etc. for the
start up of the HB Foundation, and fielding efforts for the search of
Haleigh. The other day, he even called in a favor to his corporate lawyers
requesting they volunteer their time to walk us through the set up process
for a Florida non profit organization, and file some government forms for
us. Wow. My Husband is a really bad guy, huh? Thank God he has allowed me
to take my professional and now personal mission to help on this case. And
my family has had to ride this bus with me. I just want to kiss him and my
kids for believing and supporting me while I trudge on in this case. It has
been tough, and has made him have to change a few more diapers than usual,
since “Mom” is out of town a lot.

I hear blogger after blogger say - “Let’s just find Haleigh!” My sentiments
exactly. Only I have chosen not to merely TYPE those words on my computer.
I am doing it -taking action, taking the funds out of my own pocket to hire
people to do it. Every day, every minute. I am the one who rebukes my
“rough and tough” Private Investigators when they scamper like scared
children from the “hood” of Palatka, being chased away by gun wielding drug
dealers. I PUT DOWN MY COMPUTER, get in my car, look at their sweaty,
terrorized faces, and say, “YOU WIMPS! Geez - I’ll go get that guy’s
statement myself! He can’t be such a bad guy!” and drive my car right up to
the door of some of the most dangerous criminals’ dens.
My cell phone number is 954-520-9969. Whoever wants to come to Satsuma and
volunteer months of their time to help me find Haleigh, and protect the
welfare of Ronald Cummings, Jr., they need to call me. That’s how I can be
reached. Let’s go! Call! I’ll personally bring them up to speed, and
tell them where I’m presently at in this case in our search efforts.

I have professional staff in town, computers, support investigators, the
best IT guys you’d want to meet, administrative staff, and a house I’ve
rented for staff that I keep stocked with yummy treats for everyone to snack
on - WHILE THEY LOOK FOR HALEIGH. Then they can volunteer a few hours per
day to the Haleigh Bug Center, a local community center which I set up out
of my own pocket. And I even throw a Bar B Q once in a while with free food
for anyone who walks up, to thank that well-intentioned community for all
they have done to support the search for this missing child. This is where
my Husband and I choose to spend our money. What is the link between
biofuel and the HB Center? - there ya go. Mystery solved.

I am looking for Haleigh Cummings, and working to protect Junior who is,
without a shadow of a doubt, in an unsafe household. I have spent hundreds
of hours and thousands of dollars doing so. My Husband and I have been
married for 14 years and still hold hands when we walk through the mall. Our
children are the apples of our eye. I don’t “booze it up” or go to bars to
party. I work, and work hard. I am a serious lawyer. Crystal Sheffield,
her mom, sister and brother, are solid -like family to me. Anyone can sit
around and search for something “amiss” when they see something too good or
generous to be true - it is a shameful habit for many. There is no “behind
the scenes agenda” for me. I have not earned a dime, but have spent many on
this effort. I don’t need to further my career - what a joke - I’d been
looking to slow down my case load before the Sheffield case hit my desk. I
have spent tens of thousands of dollars to help this struggling family and
community. Yes - I admit it. The cat’s out of the bag.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 22, 2009, 12:17:43 AM
I am so peed about Cobra getting arrested....I wish we could all go pickett the jail in the morning...cheer Cobra on as he walks in there ....monkeys pray for his saftey.....  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 22, 2009, 12:17:49 AM
I was reading on blogger news and someone asked if anyone saw the letter Kim Picazio put out today, has anyone seen a letter? where would she put it out? I can't find it ugh

I have seen the letter, she mailed it to some of the people she is in contact with. Someone over on WS posted it, if you are a member it's somewhere in the latest thread.  It was basically just a letter explaining her reasons for being there and helping Crystal. We aren't supposed to take posts from there and I don't wanna get banned, it took forever for me to get approved.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 22, 2009, 12:18:44 AM
Thanks HH, I was going to ask if you could post it as you received the same letter.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 22, 2009, 12:22:01 AM
Here's the letter you were looking for from Kim P.


My Husband is involved in a start up bio-fuel company. The only thing
anyone could ever find on him or us is that we have funded the HB Center,
and this litigation, out of our own pockets. Big conspiracy, huh? Yes -
we’ve given funds and goodwill to the Haleigh Cummings case, and to the
Sheffield family, when no other lawyer would step up on a pro bono basis.
They have no funds to hire a lawyer, now or in the past. They pay me
nothing. They do not have enough funds through donations or otherwise, to
fund the Haleigh Bug Center. I did that because I wanted to for Crystal.
It was therapeutic for her. It was also a good idea, in hindsight, for the
Satsuma community, which was ripe for a central locale to convene, hold
hands, and give support to the search for a child that went missing in their
town. I agreed to represent Crystal Sheffield for free (even declining
offers from people demanding to send me litigation funds), because my family
has is fortunate to have enough resources to take on the endeavor.

I’ve taken time away from my own family to help another mother with a
missing child, I have paid for the entire set up of the Haleigh Bug Center,
and just paid the rent and electric bill out of my own personal account, I
have paid additional staff to work on the case, I’ve paid for months of
hotel rooms for all of us, purchased office equipment, computers, printers,
private investigators, etc. to assist the Mother’s effort to find her
daughter and protect her son living with Ronald Cummings and Misty, and now
I am paying for the entire establishment Haleigh Bug Foundation, filling out
IRS forms, applications with the Department of this or that, for hours of my
every working day. My Husband has even utilized his own staff at his
company to assist with phone calls, emails, government forms, etc. for the
start up of the HB Foundation, and fielding efforts for the search of
Haleigh. The other day, he even called in a favor to his corporate lawyers
requesting they volunteer their time to walk us through the set up process
for a Florida non profit organization, and file some government forms for
us. Wow. My Husband is a really bad guy, huh? Thank God he has allowed me
to take my professional and now personal mission to help on this case. And
my family has had to ride this bus with me. I just want to kiss him and my
kids for believing and supporting me while I trudge on in this case. It has
been tough, and has made him have to change a few more diapers than usual,
since “Mom” is out of town a lot.

I hear blogger after blogger say - “Let’s just find Haleigh!” My sentiments
exactly. Only I have chosen not to merely TYPE those words on my computer.
I am doing it -taking action, taking the funds out of my own pocket to hire
people to do it. Every day, every minute. I am the one who rebukes my
“rough and tough” Private Investigators when they scamper like scared
children from the “hood” of Palatka, being chased away by gun wielding drug
dealers. I PUT DOWN MY COMPUTER, get in my car, look at their sweaty,
terrorized faces, and say, “YOU WIMPS! Geez - I’ll go get that guy’s
statement myself! He can’t be such a bad guy!” and drive my car right up to
the door of some of the most dangerous criminals’ dens.
My cell phone number is 954-520-9969. Whoever wants to come to Satsuma and
volunteer months of their time to help me find Haleigh, and protect the
welfare of Ronald Cummings, Jr., they need to call me. That’s how I can be
reached. Let’s go! Call! I’ll personally bring them up to speed, and
tell them where I’m presently at in this case in our search efforts.

I have professional staff in town, computers, support investigators, the
best IT guys you’d want to meet, administrative staff, and a house I’ve
rented for staff that I keep stocked with yummy treats for everyone to snack
on - WHILE THEY LOOK FOR HALEIGH. Then they can volunteer a few hours per
day to the Haleigh Bug Center, a local community center which I set up out
of my own pocket. And I even throw a Bar B Q once in a while with free food
for anyone who walks up, to thank that well-intentioned community for all
they have done to support the search for this missing child. This is where
my Husband and I choose to spend our money. What is the link between
biofuel and the HB Center? - there ya go. Mystery solved.

I am looking for Haleigh Cummings, and working to protect Junior who is,
without a shadow of a doubt, in an unsafe household. I have spent hundreds
of hours and thousands of dollars doing so. My Husband and I have been
married for 14 years and still hold hands when we walk through the mall. Our
children are the apples of our eye. I don’t “booze it up” or go to bars to
party. I work, and work hard. I am a serious lawyer. Crystal Sheffield,
her mom, sister and brother, are solid -like family to me. Anyone can sit
around and search for something “amiss” when they see something too good or
generous to be true - it is a shameful habit for many. There is no “behind
the scenes agenda” for me. I have not earned a dime, but have spent many on
this effort. I don’t need to further my career - what a joke - I’d been
looking to slow down my case load before the Sheffield case hit my desk. I
have spent tens of thousands of dollars to help this struggling family and
community. Yes - I admit it. The cat’s out of the bag.



wow!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 22, 2009, 12:33:34 AM
Thanks HH, I was going to ask if you could post it as you received the same letter.
YW......its a nice letter!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 22, 2009, 12:41:49 AM
thanks HH I really appreciate you passing that along!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 22, 2009, 12:57:38 AM
thanks HH I really appreciate you passing that along!!!!!
YW.........its long though, but it tells alot and shows just what kind of person KP is!!!!!!!  Believe me, she is nice!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mizjay on May 22, 2009, 01:50:50 AM

 That was a great letter from KP. Crystal is lucky to have her helping and giving her hope.
Such a crazy town, Cobra being jailed because of a scumbag like Snodgrass. Many many pages ago I  said that I really believed that he was the person who did this and I still do.  Seems like he's one of those criminals that wants to insert himself into the investigation, in this case, wanting to be all up in the personal space of the victims mother/family. Why?
Maybe he craves watching the anguish that he caused or some other sick perversion.  It takes some balls for a SO to even want to be seen in the vacinity of a case that involves a child's abduction.  That's my thought and I'm stickin to it!!!!
 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 22, 2009, 03:06:11 AM
Hi guys... just popping in real quick because I was wondering if anyone here can provide me with the picture of misty's mother and dad... the one where he has his shirt off and she is sitting on the floor next to him????
if you can thanks in advance i would love to explain why but i need to see the pic again first.... i know i saw it somewhere an dI thought it was on here some where but i have searched and i cannot find it


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 22, 2009, 03:44:13 AM
Hi guys... just popping in real quick because I was wondering if anyone here can provide me with the picture of misty's mother and dad... the one where he has his shirt off and she is sitting on the floor next to him????
if you can thanks in advance i would love to explain why but i need to see the pic again first.... i know i saw it somewhere an dI thought it was on here some where but i have searched and i cannot find it

Is this it?


(http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv267/Maven2379/Misty%20MySpace/mistysmomdad.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 05:33:56 AM
Daniel E. Snodgrass,54, Satsuma Fl
Another possible past place of residence East, Palatka
According to this link he lives with a lady named Joan
http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=40211360250112091840&lower=1&more_info=1&form_mode=opt_b

 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 05:50:54 AM
Map showing  snodgrass location in relation to cummings location.  according to google maps the creek goes right up to his backyard.  This is the address given for him on the white pages .com and the road view shows a long dirt road like art said in his article.  The red stars mark the cummings and snodgrass locations.  The purple star is marking a place that made me think about recently when someone asked about a island that you can see from the hwy.  Makes me go Hmmmm

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1775/sat2.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: alagary on May 22, 2009, 06:35:28 AM
I don't want to stack quotes so I'll just say this , Cobra should not have cuffed Snodgrass for getting " lippy " . Didn't know that was a crime .

If he did anything wrong, then he shouldn't have your right.  Does that licence that some articles have mentioned that cobra has, given to him by the state of FL, allow him to defend himself if he believes he is in danger like a police office can?  If so, did he think he was in danger?   Maybe that was why he detained snodgrass.  Was the bail bonds company telling him they wanted to bring snod in when this happened and then after he was cuffed said never mind?  if that was the case then cobra should be let off the hook because it was not his fault.  I personally don't know, but we know that this snodgrass is a shady character and is just looking to deal up some trouble for the good guy. 

To all the Bad guys out there looking into the monkey cage
YOU WILL NOT WIN, IN THE END THE GOOD WILL PREVAIL!  THE EYES OF AMERICA IS ON YOUR LITTLE SMALL TOWN AND THE WIND OF CHANGE IS COMING!!! 

Yes, thats the reason you have to handle these kind of people with kid gloves, just like the Cummings, they know what you can and can not do to them, they know the law, that education comes from breaking it so many times, if your not allowed to do something to them, then by all means dont do it......they will call you on it.........thats why right now, the LE is finding it hard to get people to cooperate in this case, they are all or have been criminals in the past and if nothing else, they know the law......LE has  to dot their i's and cross their t's for their own protection!
I hope that didn't look like I was defending Snodgrass ,from what I've seen on here he belongs in jail .  What I meant was that Cobra should not have used  " lippy " as a reason to cuff him .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 06:37:03 AM
I am so peed about Cobra getting arrested....I wish we could all go pickett the jail in the morning...cheer Cobra on as he walks in there ....monkeys pray for his saftey.....  ::MonkeyAngel::

Good Morning.. 

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/rally_monkey_1-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 06:50:29 AM
According to a news article he lived somewhere else and it's close to green lane.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 06:50:37 AM
I hope that didn't look like I was defending Snodgrass ,from what I've seen on here he belongs in jail .  What I meant was that Cobra should not have used  " lippy " as a reason to cuff him .

I sniped..

Well, I agree that would never be a good reason to take anyone into custody or handcuff.  there had to be more to the story, and I think Simon explained it in far more detail on his blog.  Once you handcuff a person, that literally means arrest. You have taken their freedom away at that point..  :smt117  By the way... Good Morning Monkeys. :flower:


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 06:59:03 AM
the quote stack was already long so I snipped only the obit from a few pages back...

Birth:  unknown
Death:  Jul. 27, 2007

Robert B. "Bob" Welfenberg, 64, of Palatka, died Friday, July 27, 2007, at his residence.

Born in St. Louis, Mo., Mr. Welfenberg settled here in the early 1970s after his military service. He was a U.S. Army veteran of the Vietnam Conflict. In 2006 he retired as an engineering technician from PDM Bridge in Palatka after 27 years of service. When he was young, Bob was a cowboy and a rodeo rider. He was a Baptist. He was formerly active at the First Baptist Church in Hollister where he ministered to the young people. He enjoyed fishing. The two main things in Bob's life were his family and his work.

He was preceded in death by his parents, Walter and Angela Welfenberg, who were married 59 years.

Sorry the link I posted is not in operation, try www.findagrave.com and name, etc.

same company Ron was working for uhmmmm???? ::MonkeyEek::
 


If he was married to teresa neves, I bet he did a lot of ministering to ron, but it just didn't take.. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: theboyzmom on May 22, 2009, 07:09:28 AM
I hope that didn't look like I was defending Snodgrass ,from what I've seen on here he belongs in jail .  What I meant was that Cobra should not have used  " lippy " as a reason to cuff him .

I sniped..

Well, I agree that would never be a good reason to take anyone into custody or handcuff.  there had to be more to the story, and I think Simon explained it in far more detail on his blog.  Once you handcuff a person, that literally means arrest. You have taken their freedom away at that point..  :smt117  By the way... Good Morning Monkeys. :flower:

I do not know the entire story but since Cobra is a bounty hunter/PI he has the ability to cuff someone if there is perceived danger when doing his job. We do not know what is meant by "lippy" but I am sure Cobra knows the difference between normal BS and what could be a danger. This reminds me of when Dog was arrested - for doing his job . . .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 22, 2009, 07:22:16 AM
(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm79/Bud42650/Special%20Things/66.gif)

WOW  Monkeys are really swingin' this morning.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 07:26:00 AM
Good Morning! :)

Heres a link of the article about Daniel Everett Snodgrass and it has a address listed for him.  I'm not sure if this address or the one from white pages.com is current, but art mentioned in his article that it was about a mile from green lane so it's probaly the one in this article.
He was married atleast twice,first marriage ended 8/1987,second marriage was to Joan Susann Newberger on 2/12/1996,Snodgrass was marriage number 6 for Joan
He was born in Ohio 11/1953
She was born in New York 10/1946

http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/122107/met_227510044.shtml


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 22, 2009, 07:28:22 AM
Is there anyway for someone to find the death certificate for the other hubs of Annette??

We now have her first husband obit.  Next in line is ...hmmm..Squires?  Then  Myles K. Sykes

Maybe those obits, would give us ALL of the children to Annette, plus offspring relatives to the hubs besides.  Maybe this way we can find out who this...Rena or Renate  Whitmore is!!!!

GrammaMonkey,

http://www.kindredtrails.com/FL_Putnam.html

Seahorse


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 22, 2009, 07:30:20 AM
Daniel E. Snodgrass,54, Satsuma Fl
Another possible past place of residence East, Palatka
According to this link he lives with a lady named Joan
http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=40211360250112091840&lower=1&more_info=1&form_mode=opt_b

 

Here is her mugshot... Joan Snodgrass
(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/joansapp.jpg)




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 07:46:28 AM
Is there anyway for someone to find the death certificate for the other hubs of Annette??

We now have her first husband obit.  Next in line is ...hmmm..Squires?  Then  Myles K. Sykes

Maybe those obits, would give us ALL of the children to Annette, plus offspring relatives to the hubs besides.  Maybe this way we can find out who this...Rena or Renate  Whitmore is!!!!

GrammaMonkey,

http://www.kindredtrails.com/FL_Putnam.html

Seahorse

Tell you the truth, I though Elizabeth Taylor held the title for most marriages in the USA.. Now, I do believe teresa needs to be place in the Guinness World Records.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 07:49:12 AM
Daniel E. Snodgrass,54, Satsuma Fl
Another possible past place of residence East, Palatka
According to this link he lives with a lady named Joan
http://www.whitepages.com/search/Replay?search_id=40211360250112091840&lower=1&more_info=1&form_mode=opt_b

 

Here is her mugshot... Joan Snodgrass
(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/joansapp.jpg)




We had an arrest record of her up awhile back, and also a comparison photo of her and the woman from Jacksonville, who had the dream about Haleigh..  Haleigh was suppose to be found in a field in Missouri.  I thought then, maybe not the same person, but so closely resembled could be related.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 07:57:47 AM
I remember that now that you said something, snodgrass is her 6th husband.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 08:13:49 AM
I remember that now that you said something, snodgrass is her 6th husband.

I don't know what's wrong with these people..  Marriage seems to be a hobby in that town..  And is she still with him after he was charged.... talk about desperate... geezzzzzz..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 08:18:47 AM
In the article in the link I posted a couple of replys back it said he had a girlfriend. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 08:19:56 AM
In the article in the link I posted a couple of replys back it said he had a girlfriend. ::MonkeyHaHa::

Either way,  but settle for a predator??  Wonder how many children she has..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 08:24:43 AM
Sorry I didn't post this link, it's the one that talks about the girlfriend.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/14898136/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 08:30:19 AM
Sorry I didn't post this link, it's the one that talks about the girlfriend.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/14898136/detail.html

That man makes your skin crawl... he is bold and brazen.. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 08:34:46 AM
Sorry I didn't post this link, it's the one that talks about the girlfriend.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/14898136/detail.html

I have been looking for a photo of him and haven't been able to find one, but at the link above click on the video tab and you can see a photo of him and video of the girlfriend he has had for 8 years.  It said the girls were taken away from their father because he may have know what was happening.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 22, 2009, 08:38:31 AM
Body found in landfill identified as Holly Hill man

Susan Jacobson | Sentinel Staff Writer
    5:51 PM EDT, May 21, 2009

Holly Hill police have identified a man whose body was found at a landfill as Michael D. Bobo, 52.

Bobo's roommate reported him missing from their Holly Hill home on April 29.

Investigators don't know how the body ended up at the landfill. But they say Bobo died of natural causes.

Check back for updates.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-volusia-landfill-body-identified-052109,0,288405.story


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 22, 2009, 08:41:42 AM
Body found in landfill identified as Holly Hill man

Susan Jacobson | Sentinel Staff Writer
    5:51 PM EDT, May 21, 2009

Holly Hill police have identified a man whose body was found at a landfill as Michael D. Bobo, 52.

Bobo's roommate reported him missing from their Holly Hill home on April 29.

Investigators don't know how the body ended up at the landfill. But they say Bobo died of natural causes.

Check back for updates.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-volusia-landfill-body-identified-052109,0,288405.story

May 22, 2009

Body found at landfill ID'd as Holly Hill man

Staff Report

Investigators have identified a body found in cardboard being recycled at the Tomoka Landfill as that of a Holly Hill man, officials said Thursday.

Michael D. Bobo, 52, was found Tuesday by crews working at Gel Corp, which operates a recyclables processing facility at the landfill, Volusia County sheriff's spokesman Gary Davidson said. An autopsy conducted by the Volusia County Medical Examiner's Office on Wednesday found no signs of foul play, and no indication of suicide.

Bobo was reported missing by his roommate April 29, Davidson said.

Gel Corp. recycles throughout Volusia County. Truckloads of boxes are delivered daily to the landfill off Tomoka Farms Road in Port Orange from commercial businesses, officials said, so it's unlikely the body, which had begun to decompose, had been there more than a day.

Sheriff's investigators continue working to determine how his body ended up at the landfill.

http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/EastVolusia/evlEAST02052209.htm


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 22, 2009, 08:46:45 AM
Sorry I didn't post this link, it's the one that talks about the girlfriend.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/14898136/detail.html

I have been looking for a photo of him and haven't been able to find one, but at the link above click on the video tab and you can see a photo of him and video of the girlfriend he has had for 8 years.  It said the girls were taken away from their father because he may have know what was happening.

Here he is...Daniel Snodgrass

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/snod.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 22, 2009, 08:47:55 AM
Is there anyway for someone to find the death certificate for the other hubs of Annette??

We now have her first husband obit.  Next in line is ...hmmm..Squires?  Then  Myles K. Sykes

Maybe those obits, would give us ALL of the children to Annette, plus offspring relatives to the hubs besides.  Maybe this way we can find out who this...Rena or Renate  Whitmore is!!!!

GrammaMonkey,

http://www.kindredtrails.com/FL_Putnam.html

Seahorse

Thanks, seahorse


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 22, 2009, 08:48:29 AM
In other Florida news:

Child dies after being left in car

May 22, 2009 2:30 AM (5 hrs ago) AP
 
MIAMI

Officials say an 18-month-old boy died after he was left in the back seat of a truck in South Florida.

Miami-Dade police say the child's father arrived at a strip mall parking lot where the truck was parked around 3 p.m. Thursday. He noticed the child was unresponsive and called 911. Fire Rescue pronounced the boy dead at the scene.

Authorities say the child had been left in a child safety seat when his mother went to work around 9 a.m.

No charges have been filed yet, but police are still investigating.

http://www.examiner.com/a-2029403~Child_dies_after_being_left_in_car.html?cid=rss-Florida_Headlines


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 08:48:51 AM
Sorry I didn't post this link, it's the one that talks about the girlfriend.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/14898136/detail.html

I have been looking for a photo of him and haven't been able to find one, but at the link above click on the video tab and you can see a photo of him and video of the girlfriend he has had for 8 years.  It said the girls were taken away from their father because he may have know what was happening.

About as close a photo from the video as I can get. sort of grainy.
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/snodgrass-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 08:52:39 AM
Ok I don't know if this is related to the sheffield-griffis's or not, but here it is

Daniel snodgrass's girlfriend of 8 years according to that news video is

Sherlyn Gail sanders

I found a record where ruth eloise griffis scott gave sherlyn g sanders power of attorney in 2000 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 08:55:25 AM
That's so sad heart.  What gets me is that there are all these people who have kids and don't take care of them, when theres so many people out there who can't have kids who would love and care for them.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 08:56:54 AM
Ok I don't know if this is related to the sheffield-griffis's or not, but here it is

Daniel snodgrass's girlfriend of 8 years according to that news video is

Sherlyn Gail sanders

I found a record where ruth eloise griffis scott gave sherlyn g sanders power of attorney in 2000 

Wow, that is probably Sherlyn's Mom, and she was a graffis, same as Bruce and Chad and now Marie Graffis.  Good Golly, is everybody related in that town??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 22, 2009, 09:04:32 AM
Is there anyway for someone to find the death certificate for the other hubs of Annette??

We now have her first husband obit.  Next in line is ...hmmm..Squires?  Then  Myles K. Sykes

Maybe those obits, would give us ALL of the children to Annette, plus offspring relatives to the hubs besides.  Maybe this way we can find out who this...Rena or Renate  Whitmore is!!!!

GrammaMonkey,

http://www.kindredtrails.com/FL_Putnam.html

Seahorse

Thanks, seahorse
::cartwheel::


Gramamonkey,

This is an idea: Search for family reunions:

 "Welfenberg family reunions", "Squires family reunions" & "Stallings family reunions".
 
Perhaps, ancestry.com (message boards) may post reunions. We can try googling  "Welfenberg family reunions" the LOGIC behind this idea, is to find the reunion contacts.  I looked under every rock when I found my gr-gma and gr-gfa, it is worth a try. I think outside the box or outside the cage".

Thanks, again, to all the warm welcomes I recieved, I dont wish to clutter up the monkey space with my T.Y.'s.
I was LUCKY in my searches. I am pleased to be a part of the talented monkeys! Thanks, again.



Seahorse


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 09:08:36 AM
Is there anyway for someone to find the death certificate for the other hubs of Annette??

We now have her first husband obit.  Next in line is ...hmmm..Squires?  Then  Myles K. Sykes

Maybe those obits, would give us ALL of the children to Annette, plus offspring relatives to the hubs besides.  Maybe this way we can find out who this...Rena or Renate  Whitmore is!!!!

GrammaMonkey,

http://www.kindredtrails.com/FL_Putnam.html

Seahorse

Thanks, seahorse
::cartwheel::


Gramamonkey,

This is an idea: Search for family reunions:

 "Welfenberg family reunions", "Squires family reunions" & "Stallings family reunions".
 
Perhaps, ancestry.com (message boards) may post reunions. We can try googling  "Welfenberg family reunions" the LOGIC behind this idea, is to find the reunion contacts.  I looked under every rock when I found my gr-gma and gr-gfa, it is worth a try. I think outside the box or outside the cage".

Thanks, again, to all the warm welcomes I recieved, I dont wish to clutter up the monkey space with my T.Y.'s.
I was LUCKY in my searches. I am pleased to be a part of the talented monkeys! Thanks, again.



Seahorse

Cludder all you want.. you have great research skills.. and I am so glad you know about thinking outside the box.. tickles me pink..  we break down the walls and scatter brick pieces on the bottom of the cage, hey I'll find us a broom to pick it up..  Hey, just keep going and keep the ideas coming..  I have your back, and no doubt in my mind, grama and jersey are right there too.... so cludder away...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: lady on May 22, 2009, 09:09:42 AM
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/demand-action-to-find-haleigh-cummings  dont know if this was posted here yet or not...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 22, 2009, 09:12:42 AM
Remains ID'd As Missing Marion County Man
Friday, May 22, 2009 7:28:32 AM

Investigators confirm remains found are that of Derek McGivern.

(http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedImages/Stories/Local/derek%20mcgivern.jpg)

    * Marion Man, 28, Missing For Over A Week
    * Bloody Clothes, Bones Believed To Belong To Missing Man


OCALA -- Marion County sheriff's investigators have confirmed human remains found in the Ocala National Forest last week are that of Derek McGivern.

McGivern, 27, was last seen alive on May 3 leaving a Kangaroo Express on state Road 40.
 
Investigators also say bloody clothes found at the scene matched the clothes McGivern was wearing in a photograph.

Investigators are still trying to figure out how McGivern died.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/5/22/remains_id39d_as_missing_marion_county_man.html

Missing Man: Derek McGivern--FL--05/03/2009
http://projectjason.org/forums/index.php?topic=6059.0


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 09:27:37 AM
Remains ID'd As Missing Marion County Man
Friday, May 22, 2009 7:28:32 AM

Investigators confirm remains found are that of Derek McGivern.

(http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedImages/Stories/Local/derek%20mcgivern.jpg)

    * Marion Man, 28, Missing For Over A Week
    * Bloody Clothes, Bones Believed To Belong To Missing Man


OCALA -- Marion County sheriff's investigators have confirmed human remains found in the Ocala National Forest last week are that of Derek McGivern.

McGivern, 27, was last seen alive on May 3 leaving a Kangaroo Express on state Road 40.
 
Investigators also say bloody clothes found at the scene matched the clothes McGivern was wearing in a photograph.

Investigators are still trying to figure out how McGivern died.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/5/22/remains_id39d_as_missing_marion_county_man.html

Missing Man: Derek McGivern--FL--05/03/2009
http://projectjason.org/forums/index.php?topic=6059.0


Wow Heart.... another one.....  from what it describes this was very violent.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 09:47:02 AM
Did anybody ever hear anything else on the one found at the landfill?  I'm wondering if it was chad reynolds.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 22, 2009, 09:49:47 AM
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/demand-action-to-find-haleigh-cummings  dont know if this was posted here yet or not...
Thanks, here is one sentence from this that is astonishing.  ( Recently Dick Shauland of the Putnam County Sheriff's office stated "Life goes on".)   ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: lady on May 22, 2009, 09:54:10 AM
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/demand-action-to-find-haleigh-cummings  dont know if this was posted here yet or not...
Thanks, here is one sentence from this that is astonishing.  ( Recently Dick Shauland of the Putnam County Sheriff's office stated "Life goes on".)   ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyNoNo::
Yes I agree Rose..I seen that in an article on the web before and I couldnt believe how cold hearted someone could be..Its sad


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 10:08:35 AM
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/demand-action-to-find-haleigh-cummings  dont know if this was posted here yet or not...
Thanks, here is one sentence from this that is astonishing.  ( Recently Dick Shauland of the Putnam County Sheriff's office stated "Life goes on".)   ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Is this a indirect phrase coming from the Le.. That means, hey it's all over.. Case cold, and we just go about new business now.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 10:10:14 AM
Anyone checked out the bookings this morning, to see if Cobra is out yet..  If he's been in there an hour.. would not be good......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 10:11:37 AM
WILLIAM EUGENE STAUBS

Booking Date & Time: 5/22/2009 10:03:19 AM  - Booking#: 09-02097
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 6/23/1957 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
 

Charges   Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
787.02-2  KIDNAP-FALSE IMPRISONMENT ADULT OR CHILD UNDER 13 YEARS OF AGE F T  $5,004.00 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 22, 2009, 10:13:50 AM
Thanks HH for posting Kim's letter  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: lady on May 22, 2009, 10:16:54 AM
WILLIAM EUGENE STAUBS

Booking Date & Time: 5/22/2009 10:03:19 AM  - Booking#: 09-02097
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 6/23/1957 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
 

Charges   Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
787.02-2  KIDNAP-FALSE IMPRISONMENT ADULT OR CHILD UNDER 13 YEARS OF AGE F T  $5,004.00 

WTH this pi**es me off... but dont arrest Misty for falsiflying imformation


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 22, 2009, 10:17:57 AM
Anyone checked out the bookings this morning, to see if Cobra is out yet..  If he's been in there an hour.. would not be good......

(http://public.pcso.us/jail/adb.asp?IMG=58634)
Wheres my sammich?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 10:19:53 AM
He does not look happy in that photo, I hope they don't give him any trouble.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 22, 2009, 10:20:20 AM
Did anybody ever hear anything else on the one found at the landfill?  I'm wondering if it was chad reynolds.

Look up thread JNGA, I posted an article this morning regarding the body at the landfill, it was not Chad Reynolds.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 10:25:16 AM
Your not going to believe this.. This guy didn't have time to turn around in his cell, not even sure if he had time to walk from the booking table to the cell.

 
 
 JOSEPH SCOTT LIEBL
HAWTHORNE,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/22/2009 9:47:46 AM  - Booking#: 09-02096
Release Date & Time: 5/22/2009 9:55:45 AMDOB: 10/6/1977 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
 

Charges   Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
843.15-1a FAILURE TO APPEAR  F T  $0.00  5/22/2009 12:00:00 AM
        $0.00   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 10:25:50 AM
I think that's a different one, If I remember correctly the one I'm thinking of was found in Daytona.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 10:28:51 AM
ok heart I saw it and that was it, the holly hill man
Died of natural causes found in a cardboard box at landfill??? ::MonkeyEek:: sounds odd to me


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 22, 2009, 10:33:49 AM
Your not going to believe this.. This guy didn't have time to turn around in his cell, not even sure if he had time to walk from the booking table to the cell.

 
 
 JOSEPH SCOTT LIEBL
HAWTHORNE,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/22/2009 9:47:46 AM  - Booking#: 09-02096
Release Date & Time: 5/22/2009 9:55:45 AMDOB: 10/6/1977 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
 

Charges   Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
843.15-1a FAILURE TO APPEAR  F T  $0.00  5/22/2009 12:00:00 AM
        $0.00   


Wonder who posted bond for him


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 10:33:50 AM
I's been 30 minutes


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 10:38:09 AM
WHY, IS HE STILL IN THERE?????? I hope when he gets out, he gets the meanest, head hunting lawyer in the state of Florida and sue's that Department, that Insurance Company that that Pervert....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 10:43:08 AM
Exactly Mlee!  I just hope they don't try to hurt him.  They put the guy who puts bad guys in jail in jail with the bad guys.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 10:45:42 AM
You know I was thinking maybe he should put his investigator hat on and start investigating while on the inside and then I'll bet they wouldn't want him there.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 22, 2009, 10:47:00 AM
Exactly Mlee!  I just hope they don't try to hurt him.  They put the guy who puts bad guys in jail in jail with the bad guys.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Maybe he is doing an ...IN JAIL...investigation, and getting some good info from the inmates.  ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 22, 2009, 10:52:46 AM
WILLIAM EUGENE STAUBS

Booking Date & Time: 5/22/2009 10:03:19 AM  - Booking#: 09-02097
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 6/23/1957 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
 

Charges   Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
787.02-2  KIDNAP-FALSE IMPRISONMENT ADULT OR CHILD UNDER 13 YEARS OF AGE F T  $5,004.00 

WTH this pi**es me off... but dont arrest Misty for falsiflying imformation
That would be to hard  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 22, 2009, 10:53:47 AM
You know I was thinking maybe he should put his investigator hat on and start investigating while on the inside and then I'll bet they wouldn't want him there.

We both had our thinkin' hats on at the same time.  Yep....insider...would be great.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 22, 2009, 10:53:59 AM
He does not look happy in that photo, I hope they don't give him any trouble.
Something must be wrong with the camera, it's all blurry  ::MonkeyEek:: Of course with all the pics that camera has to take, no wonder  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 22, 2009, 10:54:58 AM
ok heart I saw it and that was it, the holly hill man
Died of natural causes found in a cardboard box at landfill??? ::MonkeyEek:: sounds odd to me
I know, that's just to weird.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: lady on May 22, 2009, 11:01:15 AM
ok heart I saw it and that was it, the holly hill man
Died of natural causes found in a cardboard box at landfill??? ::MonkeyEek:: sounds odd to me
I know, that's just to weird.
Yea like he knew he was dieing or about to die so he put himself in the dumpster..Better check Misty out on that one...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 11:04:52 AM
just seems like someone would have noticed the box was a little heavy and according to the roommate he had been missing for almost a month, just seems odd


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: lady on May 22, 2009, 11:07:15 AM
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 11:09:32 AM
Simon barrett said A-1 bail bonds is working on getting him out now


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 22, 2009, 11:09:36 AM
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

hmmmm....WOW..look like NO ONE WANTS COBRA OUT ON THE STREETS....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: lady on May 22, 2009, 11:11:06 AM
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

hmmmm....WOW..look like NO ONE WANTS COBRA OUT ON THE STREETS....
Listen to the AUDIO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 11:31:55 AM
Simon barrett said A-1 bail bonds is working on getting him out now

I have said this before and I guess this proves it out.. Criminals, like Snodgrass have more rights then Victims, and certainly more rights than Cobra did.  Cobra would not have taken him into custody, if he did not think he had full authority to do so..  But, here we have Cobra trying to get out of that jail, while criminals walk in the door and 5 minutes later walk out, and Snodgrass is out, about and doing just exactly what he wants to do..  And that may well include preying on other children as we speak.. Is Le concerned about that.. apparently not........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 11:34:49 AM
Over at blogger news net I'm hearing rumors that johnny sheffield and his wife are moving to kentucky

http://www.bloggernews.net/120971#comment-1241721


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 11:36:44 AM
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

hmmmm....WOW..look like NO ONE WANTS COBRA OUT ON THE STREETS....

Grama, Le needs a shake up...  Maybe if they get tired of the public laughing at their inability to do things right..  The truth shall overcome..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 11:42:50 AM
If he gets out on bail, does that mean that he Can't leave the area?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 22, 2009, 11:47:55 AM
Not sure if this has been posted yet...

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754245&IMG=58634

So why hasn't he been bonded out yet?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 22, 2009, 11:50:03 AM
Simon barrett said A-1 bail bonds is working on getting him out now

I have said this before and I guess this proves it out.. Criminals, like Snodgrass have more rights then Victims, and certainly more rights than Cobra did.  Cobra would not have taken him into custody, if he did not think he had full authority to do so..  But, here we have Cobra trying to get out of that jail, while criminals walk in the door and 5 minutes later walk out, and Snodgrass is out, about and doing just exactly what he wants to do..  And that may well include preying on other children as we speak.. Is Le concerned about that.. apparently not........

We've seen how the revolving door works their in that county. From what we have seen the way things go Cobra should have been out within minutes.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 11:51:49 AM
yep patricia, I think something up


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 22, 2009, 12:04:07 PM
Over at blogger news net I'm hearing rumors that johnny sheffield and his wife are moving to kentucky

http://www.bloggernews.net/120971#comment-1241721
They have been talking about that over yonder also.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 22, 2009, 12:05:20 PM
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

hmmmm....WOW..look like NO ONE WANTS COBRA OUT ON THE STREETS....
Is that Chuck who is bailing him out?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 12:06:56 PM
Simon Barrett said A-1 is working on it and that's not the same as chucks


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 22, 2009, 12:16:48 PM
So all of the sudden the DA decides to go ahead and arrest Cobra on (IMO) a bogus charge?
Hmmm...What was Cobra onto exactly that made them decide to put the brakes on him?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 22, 2009, 12:18:40 PM
MacDonald's, Phat and pharm maybe?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 12:24:58 PM
On simon barrett's show art would get to saying things and cobra would try to hush him up and tell him not to give it away.  Do yall think cobra dugg something up on his own and shared it with LE and they told him to keep it quiet, but he took art in his confidence and told him and they did this cause a little too much got out or do yall think it solely has to do with the charges at hand? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 22, 2009, 12:25:01 PM
 ::MonkeyLaugh::


Well, hopefully he will get one of those good samdamwitches...or maybe two since he stayed longer.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 22, 2009, 12:31:12 PM
MacDonald's, Phat and pharm maybe?
I don't have the link but too Simon was speaking to LE in that blog.
LE has been so tight lipped and what not.

Alls I know is that Snodgrass had no business harrassing people at the HB center. NONE. How many times did the LE need to be called on the guy?
I am thinking that KP should have filed a restraining order against Snodgrass if she hasn't already though too.
The fact that he was out on bond and willfully violated that bond several times by going to the HB center where there were children present, not to forget mention Crystal who definately didn't need to be distressed, harrassed and further emotionally upset by his prescence.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: theboyzmom on May 22, 2009, 12:31:13 PM
In other Florida news:

Child dies after being left in car

May 22, 2009 2:30 AM (5 hrs ago) AP
 
MIAMI

Officials say an 18-month-old boy died after he was left in the back seat of a truck in South Florida.

Miami-Dade police say the child's father arrived at a strip mall parking lot where the truck was parked around 3 p.m. Thursday. He noticed the child was unresponsive and called 911. Fire Rescue pronounced the boy dead at the scene.

Authorities say the child had been left in a child safety seat when his mother went to work around 9 a.m.

No charges have been filed yet, but police are still investigating.

http://www.examiner.com/a-2029403~Child_dies_after_being_left_in_car.html?cid=rss-Florida_Headlines

The saddest part is that the parents will never face jail time - it is my understanding that no parent that has cooked their child has ever gone to jail . . .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 22, 2009, 12:34:35 PM
::MonkeyLaugh::


Well, hopefully he will get one of those good samdamwitches...or maybe two since he stayed longer.

Yeah them starchy foods must be real good and stuff. There must be some additional flavor or something to that green bologna and hot kool-aid that just keeps bringing folks back too. (I just threw up in my mouth a little eeeeeewwwwwaaaaa!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 12:37:02 PM
 ::MonkeyDance::  He's out!!!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 22, 2009, 12:38:17 PM
::MonkeyDance::  He's out!!!  ::MonkeyDance::

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
 ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 22, 2009, 12:40:19 PM
In other news:

Melissa Huckaby is now being charged in poisining a child and a man per MSNBC.


Accused killer of Tracy girl faces new poison charges
http://**/breakingnews/ci_12429079


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 22, 2009, 01:22:29 PM
This is a sad story, why do people like to hurt kids
http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=130501&catid=40
It is almost to the point where I feel like I can't read and follow these cases much longer. Sometimes I just think it would be better for my sanity and blood pressure to just watch TV Land and nothing more and toss my computer out the window. I am so frustrated with human beings and the evilness.
try to remember the ones that come out good . When it gets really bad remember Elisabeth Smart . Good happens from keeping thesechildrens face in the news
I am praying for a miracle...scratch that...I am expecting a miracle in Haleigh's case.
(TY Alagary, Peaches and HH.)

~Where is little Haleigh~!!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 22, 2009, 01:25:50 PM
This is a sad story, why do people like to hurt kids
http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=130501&catid=40
It is almost to the point where I feel like I can't read and follow these cases much longer. Sometimes I just think it would be better for my sanity and blood pressure to just watch TV Land and nothing more and toss my computer out the window. I am so frustrated with human beings and the evilness.
try to remember the ones that come out good . When it gets really bad remember Elisabeth Smart . Good happens from keeping thesechildrens face in the news
I am praying for a miracle...scratch that...I am expecting a miracle in Haleigh's case.
(TY Alagary, Peaches and HH.)

~Where is little Haleigh~!!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 22, 2009, 01:28:46 PM
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/demand-action-to-find-haleigh-cummings

please sign this to demand they get answers for Haleigh!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 22, 2009, 01:31:11 PM
(TY Alagary, Peaches and HH.)
OOPS! Darn me!
I meant to type in TY Alagary, Peaches, "IS" and HH but shoot I should have included everyone's name.
I have some chores calling out my name so I'll BB in a few.
(I'm concerned and have been about Snodgrass and his intentions to donate to the HB center. I am focusing in on him today for sure.)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 22, 2009, 01:35:50 PM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing62.png)
Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: alagary on May 22, 2009, 01:41:45 PM
Ain't liked Snodgrass from way back . early on he was connected somehow with Misty . She probably called him John ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: MuffyBee on May 22, 2009, 01:44:49 PM
Brandi ~  It's good to see you.  Thank you for posting the lovely pic of Haleigh. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 01:45:30 PM
Ain't liked Snodgrass from way back . early on he was connected somehow with Misty . She probably called him John ::MonkeyCool::

Maybe she needed unicycle lessons too......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 22, 2009, 01:48:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6OK1QtiEUw

This is the best video about this case I have seen.........liars in Satsuma!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 22, 2009, 01:49:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6OK1QtiEUw

This is the best video about this case I have seen.........liars in Satsuma!!!
Thanks HH  ::MonkeyCool::   Thanks Brandi, lovely pic  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cece on May 22, 2009, 01:51:12 PM
Thank you Brandi for the beautiful Haleigh picture.  Good to see you back.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Glad to hear Cobra is out.  Wonder what took so long?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 01:53:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6OK1QtiEUw

This is the best video about this case I have seen.........liars in Satsuma!!!

Is it titled "If their Lips are Moving"?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cece on May 22, 2009, 02:21:47 PM
Does anyone have a link to Cobra's release?  TIA.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 22, 2009, 02:25:15 PM
Something has been dangling in my mind.  I know that there has been talk of a possible..doorbell.

Is / was it actually a ..doorbell someone heard the night Haleigh went missing????

Or..is it possible it was a ...cellphone...with a distinctive ring....like a doorbell.  I have listened to some cellphone rings, and some are actually quite real sounding, like a baby crying.

Just another thought to ponder....
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GramaMonkey

 There is another birth to Joe Stephen Squires in Texas, (Harris)?

Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997.  Your talented monkey found Teresa Ann Squires in Dallas, Texas.

 "Betty Louise Squires", a sister to Teresa?  If Betty is a sister to Teresa?  Hymmmm...

 
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Name:  Betty Louise Squires
Father:  Joe Stephen Squires
Birth:  date - Harris
 
 Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997

 
Name:  Teresa Annette Squires
Father:  Joe Stephen Squires
Birth:  date - Dallas
 

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 22, 2009, 02:28:29 PM
You have GOT to be kidding, right?  They gave him a 5K bond....and with all the other TRASH I have seen they go lighter on the bonds.  Never in my life have I heard of such craziness.
I think I'll send Cobra a little something something, HE'S THE ONLY PERSON OUT LOOKING FOR HALEIGH AND WHAT THE HE** IS LE WORRIED ABOUT HIM FOR??????  Omg I'm irritated.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 22, 2009, 02:30:42 PM
William Eugene Staubs, 51, turned himself in to Putnam County Sheriffs Department this morning after learning yesterday that they had issued a warrant for his arrest for False Imprisonment with a bail of $5,004. (Putnam County Online Booking Info)

Staubs gained national attention recently when he showed up in Putnam County to investigate the case of missing 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings (you can read more about Haleigh here.

Early after his arrival, there were news reports of a sex offender in the area that had shown up to the newly created Haleighbug Center to offer donations of office furniture.

Cobra decided to go question Snodgrass and in the process decided he was in violation of his bail and placed him in handcuffs, under arrest. Cobra held him for over an hour.

The problem arises from the fact that Cobra had no authority to make that arrest. He did not pay the bail, did not issue the bail bond, nor was he hired by the bondsman that did issue it to revoke the bail. When contacted the Bondsman that did issue the bond declined to revoke the bail and Cobra released Snodgrass.

Many are angry at Putnam County authorities for filing the charges because he “appears” to be the only one doing anything about finding the missing girl.

However, things aren’t always as they appear. So far, everything Cobra has “exposed” was already known to investigators and all Cobra accomplished was to make public what the investigators wanted to keep quiet.

Additionally, Cobra could have endangered their case. There is no question that Cobra broke the law in making that arrest. Only the person who pays the bail, the bondsman that issued the bond, and the court/law enforcement can revoke a bail bond. Cobra had no authority whatsoever to do so.

Even if Snodgrass had confessed to kidnapping Haleigh, that information would likely have been thrown out by the courts because of the false imprisonment. (Note: LE has already indicated they believe the abduction is not a stranger abduction which eliminates Snodgrass). Cobra could have caused a guilty man to walk free by his actions

Edit: to fix repeat



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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 22, 2009, 02:32:19 PM
Oh Bot........I messed that up big time.....I tried to post the link, but it somehow doubled up he post.....goodness!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 22, 2009, 02:43:26 PM
I'm sniping HH, cause well, just cause

~~~
Even if Snodgrass had confessed to kidnapping Haleigh, that information would likely have been thrown out by the courts because of the false imprisonment. (Note: LE has already indicated they believe the abduction is not a stranger abduction which eliminates Snodgrass). Cobra could have caused a guilty man to walk free by his actions

~~~~~~

BUT SNODGRASS DOES KNOW HALEIGH!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 22, 2009, 02:47:27 PM
(In between chores right now lol)

I am very glad that Cobra is out and hopefully that case will be resolved soon.
I was looking to see if there were any updates and came acrossed this video, which I have watched and listened to several times, and thought I would post the link to it.
(Caution as there is some foul language on the video.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUhfVMwTyw8

This song sooooo fits today!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 22, 2009, 02:47:27 PM
I'm sniping HH, cause well, just cause

~~~
Even if Snodgrass had confessed to kidnapping Haleigh, that information would likely have been thrown out by the courts because of the false imprisonment. (Note: LE has already indicated they believe the abduction is not a stranger abduction  which eliminates Snodgrass). Cobra could have caused a guilty man to walk free by his actions

~~~~~~

BUT SNODGRASS DOES KNOW HALEIGH!!!!
yes,   hence the word....NOT a stranger abduction!!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 22, 2009, 02:53:04 PM
I'm sniping HH, cause well, just cause

~~~
Even if Snodgrass had confessed to kidnapping Haleigh, that information would likely have been thrown out by the courts because of the false imprisonment. (Note: LE has already indicated they believe the abduction is not a stranger abduction  which eliminates Snodgrass). Cobra could have caused a guilty man to walk free by his actions

~~~~~~

BUT SNODGRASS DOES KNOW HALEIGH!!!!
yes,   hence the word....NOT a stranger abduction!!!!!!
Yes, but they're wrong to say it eliminates him.  No way, no shape, no how.  How far did he live from the Cummings?  And Donald Sapp is the one that knew and is friends with Misty?  (Do I have my story straight?)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 22, 2009, 02:57:37 PM
I'm sniping HH, cause well, just cause

~~~
Even if Snodgrass had confessed to kidnapping Haleigh, that information would likely have been thrown out by the courts because of the false imprisonment. (Note: LE has already indicated they believe the abduction is not a stranger abduction  which eliminates Snodgrass). Cobra could have caused a guilty man to walk free by his actions

~~~~~~

BUT SNODGRASS DOES KNOW HALEIGH!!!!
yes,   hence the word....NOT a stranger abduction!!!!!!
HH, yesterday it was mentioned on the forum that Ron's lawyers have told him not to speak to LE. I wasn't surprised by that, but I wonder if you have heard that. If that is true, that speaks volumns to me  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 22, 2009, 02:58:07 PM
I'm sniping HH, cause well, just cause

~~~
Even if Snodgrass had confessed to kidnapping Haleigh, that information would likely have been thrown out by the courts because of the false imprisonment. (Note: LE has already indicated they believe the abduction is not a stranger abduction  which eliminates Snodgrass). Cobra could have caused a guilty man to walk free by his actions

~~~~~~

BUT SNODGRASS DOES KNOW HALEIGH!!!!
yes,   hence the word....NOT a stranger abduction!!!!!!
I'm not so sure that a false imprisonment charge is going to stick. I've seen cases where LE has taken people into custody only to release them later due to lack of evidence so the DA's office tells them to let them go.
Snodgrass was being detained until further advised by the insurance company. Also IMO Cobra had plenty enough evidence and Cobra should have arrested him, revoked his bond and threw his rear end in jail.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 22, 2009, 02:59:20 PM
I'm sniping HH, cause well, just cause

~~~
Even if Snodgrass had confessed to kidnapping Haleigh, that information would likely have been thrown out by the courts because of the false imprisonment. (Note: LE has already indicated they believe the abduction is not a stranger abduction  which eliminates Snodgrass). Cobra could have caused a guilty man to walk free by his actions

~~~~~~

BUT SNODGRASS DOES KNOW HALEIGH!!!!
yes,   hence the word....NOT a stranger abduction!!!!!!
HH, yesterday it was mentioned on the forum that Ron's lawyers have told him not to speak to LE. I wasn't surprised by that, but I wonder if you have heard that. If that is true, that speaks volumns to me  ::MonkeyEek::
It SCREAMS to me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Dolce on May 22, 2009, 03:00:56 PM
::MonkeyDance::A CALL TO MONKEY ACTION - AMBER DUBOIS ::MonkeyDance::

Please help raise awareness for this missing teen who’s story has never been told as others have.  Please help give Amber the chance to come home.  I have made it so easy for you to shoot an email over to Greta and Nancy.  Also, links to post and send comments.  Please take a moment to do this for her family who are active Monkeys.
TIA


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I want to hear more about this case.  I want to see her featured as a missing person.  This childs disappearance could happen to any family and it is scary!  Please research and air her story.

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 22, 2009, 03:01:42 PM
It screams to me also Patricia  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 22, 2009, 03:04:55 PM
It screams to me also Patricia  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Rose,  its true , they are now saying they will handle anything that is asked of Ronald and if he is made to talk to LE he is not to do so without his att.... with him!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 22, 2009, 03:06:37 PM
I'm sniping HH, cause well, just cause

~~~
Even if Snodgrass had confessed to kidnapping Haleigh, that information would likely have been thrown out by the courts because of the false imprisonment. (Note: LE has already indicated they believe the abduction is not a stranger abduction  which eliminates Snodgrass). Cobra could have caused a guilty man to walk free by his actions

~~~~~~

BUT SNODGRASS DOES KNOW HALEIGH!!!!
yes,   hence the word....NOT a stranger abduction!!!!!!
I'm not so sure that a false imprisonment charge is going to stick. I've seen cases where LE has taken people into custody only to release them later due to lack of evidence so the DA's office tells them to let them go.
Snodgrass was being detained until further advised by the insurance company. Also IMO Cobra had plenty enough evidence and Cobra should have arrested him, revoked his bond and threw his rear end in jail.


Right. I agree.  In Texas, if a bond is revoked, anyone can arrest you and take you back.  (they leave this to bounty hunters and pi's, unless you're pulled over by LE and they take you in)  I guess Cobra arrested him, put him in cuffs, was going to take him in, but put in a call to the bail bond company to make sure they were revoking the bond.  Cobra had him, and then the company said they weren't going to revoke it, so he had to let him go.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 22, 2009, 03:12:46 PM
It screams to me also Patricia  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Rose,  its true , they are now saying they will handle anything that is asked of Ronald and if he is made to talk to LE he is not to do so without his att.... with him!
Thank-you  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 22, 2009, 03:14:14 PM
I'm sniping HH, cause well, just cause

~~~
Even if Snodgrass had confessed to kidnapping Haleigh, that information would likely have been thrown out by the courts because of the false imprisonment. (Note: LE has already indicated they believe the abduction is not a stranger abduction  which eliminates Snodgrass). Cobra could have caused a guilty man to walk free by his actions

~~~~~~

BUT SNODGRASS DOES KNOW HALEIGH!!!!
yes,   hence the word....NOT a stranger abduction!!!!!!
I'm not so sure that a false imprisonment charge is going to stick. I've seen cases where LE has taken people into custody only to release them later due to lack of evidence so the DA's office tells them to let them go.
Snodgrass was being detained until further advised by the insurance company. Also IMO Cobra had plenty enough evidence and Cobra should have arrested him, revoked his bond and threw his rear end in jail.


Right. I agree.  In Texas, if a bond is revoked, anyone can arrest you and take you back.  (they leave this to bounty hunters and pi's, unless you're pulled over by LE and they take you in)  I guess Cobra arrested him, put him in cuffs, was going to take him in, but put in a call to the bail bond company to make sure they were revoking the bond.  Cobra had him, and then the company said they weren't going to revoke it, so he had to let him go.
The bond company might not have wanted to revoke the bond but Cobra still could have arrested him is what I had thought though too. Cobra still had enough evidence and could have pressed charges against him.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 22, 2009, 03:16:45 PM
http://www.nbc15online.com/news/local/story/Former-Satsuma-Police-Officer-Investigated/5RgqkZ9R1U2yu78jKVevdQ.cspx


I think FBI is cleaning house and fixing things in Putnam!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 22, 2009, 03:17:58 PM
http://www.nbc15online.com/news/local/story/Former-Satsuma-Police-Officer-Investigated/5RgqkZ9R1U2yu78jKVevdQ.cspx


I think FBI is cleaning house and fixing things in Putnam!!!
Excellent


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 22, 2009, 03:19:57 PM
http://www.pcso.us/employment



They are also  asking for more help, must be thinkin they are likely to loose some by the time this is all over!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 22, 2009, 03:20:32 PM
http://www.nbc15online.com/news/local/story/Former-Satsuma-Police-Officer-Investigated/5RgqkZ9R1U2yu78jKVevdQ.cspx


I think FBI is cleaning house and fixing things in Putnam!!!
That's Satsuma, Alabama I think.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 22, 2009, 03:24:45 PM
http://www.nbc15online.com/news/local/story/Former-Satsuma-Police-Officer-Investigated/5RgqkZ9R1U2yu78jKVevdQ.cspx


I think FBI is cleaning house and fixing things in Putnam!!!
That's Satsuma, Alabama I think.
Well    duhh....yes it is...........lol.....I didnt read the state........hope this false info doesnt jump over to the no parking zone!!!!lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 22, 2009, 03:27:13 PM
http://www.nbc15online.com/news/local/story/Former-Satsuma-Police-Officer-Investigated/5RgqkZ9R1U2yu78jKVevdQ.cspx


I think FBI is cleaning house and fixing things in Putnam!!!
That's Satsuma, Alabama I think.
Well    duhh....yes it is...........lol.....I didnt read the state........hope this false info doesnt jump over to the no parking zone!!!!lol
No parking zone? Oh at WS you mean right?
LMBO!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Dolce on May 22, 2009, 03:40:15 PM
 ::MonkeyDance::  Monkeys and Lurkers and Guests...it is not enough to sit here and read and post all day long if you are not willing to do something as simple as sending an email or post a comment requesting that media attention be brought to these cases.  It takes only a moment of your time to help save a childs entire life. 
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4583.msg816870#msg816870


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 03:52:32 PM
I'm sniping HH, cause well, just cause

~~~
Even if Snodgrass had confessed to kidnapping Haleigh, that information would likely have been thrown out by the courts because of the false imprisonment. (Note: LE has already indicated they believe the abduction is not a stranger abduction which eliminates Snodgrass). Cobra could have caused a guilty man to walk free by his actions

~~~~~~

BUT SNODGRASS DOES KNOW HALEIGH!!!!

Let us be honest here.. we do not know for a fact, who Snodgrass knows and doesn't know.  He was very interested in the Haleighbug center..  Also we came across a connection in names with the families in an earlier post.. need to go back and see. Now,  how was Cobra going to hurt this case, when the shear facts of the criminal act, do not involve Cobra at all.  Cobra was acting in a professional manner,  knowing the guy was violating his terms of probation, by entering the Haleighbug center at all, and had gone there on a number of occasions and when Le was notified of his presence and he continued to run out of the center away to avoid the Le.  So, that means that witness's observed him in the center, he apparently had been ask to leave on several occasions and returned.  LE was aware that he was going there, they were aware that he was in violation of his bond, and they could have gone to his house and arrrested him and charged him with the violations and revoked his bond.  So, this is really bs.  Before Cobra took him into custody, he contacted the insurance co, involved in the bonding company, they advised him to go for it, and then after the man was in custody by Cobra, the insurance company called back and said, no don't take him into custody,  you need to release him..   When this hits court, and cobra has a good sharp attorney.. He will walk away clean..  And then he needs to file a civil action suit against, the county of putnam, the insurance company and snodgrass.  Will he will.. you betcha..

For the insurance company to change its mind, someone had to be in contact with them and put pressure on their decision, which means you can lay money on the odds that it was a detective from LE..  The concept it was going to hurt their case was crap.  If they had a case that was originally good enought for Le to arrest this man and charge him, and he was out on bond and violating his bond conditions, the only thing it hurts right now is the credibility of the Le officers for not taking action of his violations.  If the District attorney is trying to build a case against the girls father, he may be working a deal with Snodgrass to give the guy up, if this is the case what it might have hurt was the deal the da was trying to pull off to gain access to the father.  And that is bs. cobra embarressed the le.. thats all he did.. He showed them up as cops not doing their job.....   And my response to the da, the sheriff and his detective.. "Hey, life is rough, Shi--t Happens dude,  do the job - your paid to do.. Life goes on".....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 22, 2009, 03:55:14 PM
I'm sniping HH, cause well, just cause

~~~
Even if Snodgrass had confessed to kidnapping Haleigh, that information would likely have been thrown out by the courts because of the false imprisonment. (Note: LE has already indicated they believe the abduction is not a stranger abduction which eliminates Snodgrass). Cobra could have caused a guilty man to walk free by his actions

~~~~~~

BUT SNODGRASS DOES KNOW HALEIGH!!!!

Let us be honest here.. we do not know for a fact, who Snodgrass knows and doesn't know.  He was very interested in the Haleighbug center..  Also we came across a connection in names with the families in an earlier post.. need to go back and see. Now,  how was Cobra going to hurt this case, when the shear facts of the criminal act, do not involve Cobra at all.  Cobra was acting in a professional manner,  knowing the guy was violating his terms of probation, by entering the Haleighbug center at all, and had gone there on a number of occasions and when Le was notified of his presence and he continued to run out of the center away to avoid the Le.  So, that means that witness's observed him in the center, he apparently had been ask to leave on several occasions and returned.  LE was aware that he was going there, they were aware that he was in violation of his bond, and they could have gone to his house and arrrested him and charged him with the violations and revoked his bond.  So, this is really bs.  Before Cobra took him into custody, he contacted the insurance co, involved in the bonding company, they advised him to go for it, and then after the man was in custody by Cobra, the insurance company called back and said, no don't take him into custody,  you need to release him..   When this hits court, and cobra has a good sharp attorney.. He will walk away clean..  And then he needs to file a civil action suit against, the county of putnam, the insurance company and snodgrass.  Will he will.. you betcha..

For the insurance company to change its mind, someone had to be in contact with them and put pressure on their decision, which means you can lay money on the odds that it was a detective from LE..  The concept it was going to hurt their case was crap.  If they had a case that was originally good enought for Le to arrest this man and charge him, and he was out on bond and violating his bond conditions, the only thing it hurts right now is the credibility of the Le officers for not taking action of his violations.  If the District attorney is trying to build a case against the girls father, he may be working a deal with Snodgrass to give the guy up, if this is the case what it might have hurt was the deal the da was trying to pull off to gain access to the father.  And that is bs. cobra embarressed the le.. thats all he did.. He showed them up as cops not doing their job.....   And my response to the da, the sheriff and his detective.. "Hey, life is rough, Shi--t Happens dude,  do the job - your paid to do.. Life goes on".....
My Goodness Mlee you sure do have a way with the truth there!
 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 22, 2009, 03:59:00 PM
Ok Mlee, great post.  Sounds about right.  Now tell me who lived closest, Donald Sapp or Snodgrass?  Who was the SO that knew Misty?  Who the SO that watched the kids on the trampoline?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 04:07:39 PM
Ok Mlee, great post.  Sounds about right.  Now tell me who lived closest, Donald Sapp or Snodgrass?  Who was the SO that knew Misty?  Who the SO that watched the kids on the trampoline?

I don't remember if its Donald or the other one.. One of them is a step grandparent to the coslins girls.. I wish grama was here she would clear my mind.. But I believe the Sapp man who is a Predator was living down at or around short elevators brothers house on Tyler..  Come on Monkeys,  help me out here.. you remember.   Also, there was a person who had made a post claiming that the two Sapp's were not related.  Shoot.. typing with my mind racing is so hard to get out..  I think the closest would be Sapp.   But, we just found something about that June Snodgrass shares one of the family names involved with the cummings clan.. couple of pages back.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 04:31:36 PM
Posted originally by OsPainter

...  Haleigh, possibly a maternal cousin:

Sapp, Donald Lee
bd
possibly related in some  ...
...  to Guy W. Sapp, Raymond Sapp, (which could make Donald  ...
...  some way to a Griffis (which could make Donald related by marriage as a maternal  ...
...  of Crystal's family is from/living. Donald moved to 315 2nd Ave, Satsuma, (which  ...
...  car on 1/7/2009 and died the next day. Donald Lee Sapp moved into Jeffrey and Billye' ...
... . And a few weeks after that, Haleigh disappeared.
----> Registered Sex Offender,  ...
... . Billye Lee Griffis had testified in Donald's trial in the 1990's. A Raymond Sapp  ...
...  to bail in one of Donald's cases, and Donald is mentioned in  ...
...  obituary in 2005. Donald is/was married and has four children,  ...
...  to Raymond Sapp's obituary.
Pic:
http://i229. ...
...  violence restraining order against Donald Lee Sapp, which was denied.

TWO DAYS  ...
...  the next day.

A few weeks later, Donald Lee Sapp moved into Jeffrey and Billye' ...
... .

A few weeks after that, Haleigh disappeared.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 22, 2009, 04:35:07 PM
Kim P involvement???

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

(Some people apparently need to get back on the same page if at all possible IMHO.)

~Haleigh's page~



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 22, 2009, 04:43:07 PM
I sat back for a minute and I realize now what is going on and it has $$$ all over it. I don't know how to say it except to come out and say it but Haleigh is not for sale.
Haleigh is worth more to people, strangers who have never even met her even and people  who truly care about her than any danged ol' dollar sign and until these people wake the he-double toothpicks up and stop worrying about $$$ Haleigh will NOT be the focus.
It will be about who to channel more of those $$$ too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUhfVMwTyw8&feature=related

So Cobra got thrown under the bus and into jail over $$$?

~WHERE IS LITTLE HALEIGH~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 22, 2009, 04:44:03 PM
Thank you Mlee, aka Monkey with cute glasses.  You're the BEST!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Cappuccino on May 22, 2009, 04:48:00 PM
 P.I. In Haleigh Case Arrested On Kidnapping Charge
Staubs Accused Of Holding Man Against His Will


SATSUMA, Fla. -- A private investigator and bondsman related to the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings was arrested and charged with false imprisonment Friday.

William Eugene Staubs, 51, of Weston, Fla., is accused of taking Daniel Everett Snodgrass, 51, from his Satsuma home against his will on March 20.

Staubs, also known as "Cobra," had been working closely with attorney Kim Picazio, who represents Crystal Sheffield, the mother of Haleigh Cummings. Haleigh has been missing since February, and was last seen in her Satsuma home.

It all started when Snodgrass was arrested and charged with sexual battery of a child under 12. Snodgrass filed a complaint saying that Staubs called him out of his home on a loudspeaker with a siren on.

According to a news release, Snodgrass told Detective Ken Taylor that Staubs told Snodgrass he was revoking Snodgrass' bond, threw Snodgrass to the ground, handcuffed him and forced him into Staubs vehicle. Staubs then reportedly drove away from the residence headed towards Palatka, according to the release. After driving a short distance and making several telephone calls, Staubs reportedly turned around, drove Snodgrass back to his residence and released him, the news release said.

Jail officials said that Snodgrass had been bonded out of jail when the incident occurred.

Staubs is being held on $5,004 bond at the Putnam County Jail.

Since Haleigh disappeared, little information has been uncovered regarding her whereabouts.

Her father, Ronald Cummings, recently married his girlfriend Misty Croslin, who was home at the time Haleigh went missing.

http://www.wesh.com/news/19540822/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Cappuccino on May 22, 2009, 05:00:57 PM
Never mind read back & didnt catch this link
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 22, 2009, 05:01:28 PM
Kim P involvement???

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

(Some people apparently need to get back on the same page if at all possible IMHO.)

~Haleigh's page~


WTH is going on here? This has turned into a complete three ring circus, not on the level of the Anthonys, but it is headed that way and I'm disgusted  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 22, 2009, 05:04:08 PM
Hi guys... just popping in real quick because I was wondering if anyone here can provide me with the picture of misty's mother and dad... the one where he has his shirt off and she is sitting on the floor next to him????
if you can thanks in advance i would love to explain why but i need to see the pic again first.... i know i saw it somewhere an dI thought it was on here some where but i have searched and i cannot find it

Is this it?


(http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv267/Maven2379/Misty%20MySpace/mistysmomdad.jpg)

Yes and No thank you very much this is definitely the one I asked for but not the one I thought it was... maybe you can still help
like I said I thought this was the one but I was wrong...
what I was looking for is a pic of Misty's mom that shows her tattoos..... maybe it was on eof the ones of them at a beach/pool in misty's myspace... this is driving me nuts
In particular a cartoon character that I thought I saw on her... I know it sounds like a crazy request but I do have a method to my madness:)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 22, 2009, 05:12:52 PM
Kim P involvement???

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

(Some people apparently need to get back on the same page if at all possible IMHO.)

~Haleigh's page~


WTH is going on here? This has turned into a complete three ring circus, not on the level of the Anthonys, but it is headed that way and I'm disgusted  ::MonkeyNoNo::
You and me both.
I cannot even imagine how much stress this is causing any of the people who are trying to find this little girl but where do you draw the line. I keep seeing a bunch of smack thrown at Cobra on other sites and the man came up in this case thinking it would be solved soon and he was spending his own out of pocket money till it run out. I understand the need for funding for both Kim P.'s agenda and Cobra but come on!
What the heck?
It's one thing to say "Hey we needs some money over here to keep this thing going." but it's a whole nother can of worms when you start undermining people who are sincerely out there with one thing in mind and that is to find Haleigh.

This is not


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 22, 2009, 05:32:31 PM
I finally went to BNN and offered up my own opiion on what all these people could do to help find Haleigh and just because I said maybe Cobra should try to lay low and start doing whatever he is gonna do without a camera in front og him and lets all focus on Haleigh and try to find her, and so then guess what.........I got Banned    lololololololol........well my first and last time trying to talk sensable on BNN...........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 22, 2009, 05:37:13 PM
I finally went to BNN and offered up my own opiion on what all these people could do to help find Haleigh and just because I said maybe Cobra should try to lay low and start doing whatever he is gonna do without a camera in front og him and lets all focus on Haleigh and try to find her, and so then guess what.........I got Banned    lololololololol........well my first and last time trying to talk sensable on BNN...........

Yeah that's BNN though. They are a media source so what you said was kind of a slap in the face to them I think.
I'll have nothing to do with those sites. Art Harris I like and I have posted on his site. Notice how he hasn't posted much recently?
I wonder what his thoughts are on all of this?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 22, 2009, 05:46:14 PM
I finally went to BNN and offered up my own opiion on what all these people could do to help find Haleigh and just because I said maybe Cobra should try to lay low and start doing whatever he is gonna do without a camera in front og him and lets all focus on Haleigh and try to find her, and so then guess what.........I got Banned    lololololololol........well my first and last time trying to talk sensable on BNN...........
  ::MonkeyEek:: What forum is BNN, I don't think I'm familiar with it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 22, 2009, 06:11:01 PM
I'm sniping HH, cause well, just cause

~~~
Even if Snodgrass had confessed to kidnapping Haleigh, that information would likely have been thrown out by the courts because of the false imprisonment. (Note: LE has already indicated they believe the abduction is not a stranger abduction which eliminates Snodgrass). Cobra could have caused a guilty man to walk free by his actions

~~~~~~

BUT SNODGRASS DOES KNOW HALEIGH!!!!

Let us be honest here.. we do not know for a fact, who Snodgrass knows and doesn't know.  He was very interested in the Haleighbug center..  Also we came across a connection in names with the families in an earlier post.. need to go back and see. Now,  how was Cobra going to hurt this case, when the shear facts of the criminal act, do not involve Cobra at all.  Cobra was acting in a professional manner,  knowing the guy was violating his terms of probation, by entering the Haleighbug center at all, and had gone there on a number of occasions and when Le was notified of his presence and he continued to run out of the center away to avoid the Le.  So, that means that witness's observed him in the center, he apparently had been ask to leave on several occasions and returned.  LE was aware that he was going there, they were aware that he was in violation of his bond, and they could have gone to his house and arrrested him and charged him with the violations and revoked his bond.  So, this is really bs.  Before Cobra took him into custody, he contacted the insurance co, involved in the bonding company, they advised him to go for it, and then after the man was in custody by Cobra, the insurance company called back and said, no don't take him into custody,  you need to release him..   When this hits court, and cobra has a good sharp attorney.. He will walk away clean..  And then he needs to file a civil action suit against, the county of putnam, the insurance company and snodgrass.  Will he will.. you betcha..

For the insurance company to change its mind, someone had to be in contact with them and put pressure on their decision, which means you can lay money on the odds that it was a detective from LE..  The concept it was going to hurt their case was crap.  If they had a case that was originally good enought for Le to arrest this man and charge him, and he was out on bond and violating his bond conditions, the only thing it hurts right now is the credibility of the Le officers for not taking action of his violations.  If the District attorney is trying to build a case against the girls father, he may be working a deal with Snodgrass to give the guy up, if this is the case what it might have hurt was the deal the da was trying to pull off to gain access to the father.  And that is bs. cobra embarressed the le.. thats all he did.. He showed them up as cops not doing their job.....   And my response to the da, the sheriff and his detective.. "Hey, life is rough, Shi--t Happens dude,  do the job - your paid to do.. Life goes on".....
My Goodness Mlee you sure do have a way with the truth there!
 ::MonkeyDance::

couldn't have said it any better myself!!!!!.....Cobra is just trying to find Haleigh. Everyone in that town should be backing him. Snodgrass didn't like being restrained,held against his will , and having the crap scared out of him well maybe now he is starting to get a clue about how that little 9 year old girl felt at least cobra didn't molest him while he was helpless on the ground!!!! LE should have looked the other way!!! JMO......someone post me a pic of a raging monkey !


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 22, 2009, 06:15:33 PM

Yes and No thank you very much this is definitely the one I asked for but not the one I thought it was... maybe you can still help
like I said I thought this was the one but I was wrong...
what I was looking for is a pic of Misty's mom that shows her tattoos..... maybe it was on eof the ones of them at a beach/pool in misty's myspace... this is driving me nuts
In particular a cartoon character that I thought I saw on her... I know it sounds like a crazy request but I do have a method to my madness:)


I think I know which one you are talking about, I didn't save that one, I'm sure someone else did, I'll go look and see if I can find it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 22, 2009, 06:20:21 PM

http://www.topix.com/forum/county/putnam-fl/TPI7GB9F8TD1E0UKR

The underground
Interlachen, FL

We seen how some people get fired and how some people doesn't. If you are not in the click, you don't get anywhere. One deputy handcuffed a subject to the sally port gate, the gate went up, pulling the subject into the air. Guess what, he is still working there. He is part of the click.

I guess Cobra was not part of the click!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 22, 2009, 06:24:32 PM
Is this anything???

http://registry.adoption.com/records/79164.html

Submitted By:  Rena Whitmore(a Birth Mother)
Origionally Added:  Jun 04, 2000
 
   Highlights of the Adoption Record -- the Adoptee

Birthplace:  Florida 
Birthdate:  October 28, 1957 
Gender:  Female 
Agency:   
Hospital:   
 Adoptee's Birthname:  Rena Whitmore
Adoptee's Name:   Unknown (Williams?)
Birthmother's Name:  Rena Whitmore
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cece on May 22, 2009, 06:40:30 PM
I am so frustrated & sad today.  This is turning into one big circus & doesn't seem to bring us any closer to finding Haleigh. 

So much in-fighting, drugs, prostituton, lies, lies, lies.

I'm bringing Brandi's picture forward to remind myself why I'm here.

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/HALEIGH.png)

Thank you Brandi.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 06:43:56 PM
I finally went to BNN and offered up my own opiion on what all these people could do to help find Haleigh and just because I said maybe Cobra should try to lay low and start doing whatever he is gonna do without a camera in front og him and lets all focus on Haleigh and try to find her, and so then guess what.........I got Banned    lololololololol........well my first and last time trying to talk sensable on BNN...........

Dear HH, don't worry about it hon.. they are not interested in helping us or any other forum in finding Haleigh.. I found so little actually conversation dealing with Haleigh.  Some are rude..  It is a Clic..   Do remember, they do visit, some are the lurkers and then try to repeat what they find..  So, don't take anything to heart.. just let them play their own games, there is no info there to help us.. And they seem resentful when you try to give them info.  I posted the other day the info on the breathing machine, and was advised by Pickles that was only posting and rumor.. I responded with the statement that Art Harris had made on the Radio.. I thought, What Pickles? you should have remembered that,  you were on the same radio interview when he made the statement..  The only info we are going to ever accquire from BNN, is from the Radio interviews or the Blogs reporting info, but not the posters.  It's their loss.. We have the good stuff.. We're the Monkeys...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 22, 2009, 06:48:42 PM
Is Cobra going to leave and go back home? I just don't see what is going to be accomplished by him anymore, and now with the accusations he made about Kim, it seems not very many people want him around. Art Harris, is he still around, he has been quite lately. If Cobra hangs around I wouldn't be surprised if someone made an attempt to hurt him.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 22, 2009, 06:51:12 PM
P.I. In Haleigh Case Arrested On Kidnapping Charge

Staubs Accused Of Holding Man Against His Will

POSTED: 3:38 pm EDT May 22, 2009

SATSUMA, Fla. -- A private investigator and bondsman related to the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings was arrested and charged with false imprisonment Friday.

William Eugene Staubs, 51, of Weston, Fla., is accused of taking Daniel Everett Snodgrass, 51, from his Satsuma home against his will on March 20.

Staubs, also known as "Cobra," had been working closely with attorney Kim Picazio, who represents Crystal Sheffield, the mother of Haleigh Cummings. Haleigh has been missing since February, and was last seen in her Satsuma home.

[Haleigh Cummings, 5, was reported missing on Feb. 11.]
Haleigh Cummings, 5, was reported missing on Feb. 11.

It all started when Snodgrass was arrested and charged with sexual battery of a child under 12. Snodgrass filed a complaint saying that Staubs called him out of his home on a loudspeaker with a siren on.

According to a news release, Snodgrass told Detective Ken Taylor that Staubs told Snodgrass he was revoking Snodgrass' bond, threw Snodgrass to the ground, handcuffed him and forced him into Staubs vehicle. Staubs then reportedly drove away from the residence headed towards Palatka, according to the release. After driving a short distance and making several telephone calls, Staubs reportedly turned around, drove Snodgrass back to his residence and released him, the news release said.

Jail officials said that Snodgrass had been bonded out of jail when the incident occurred.

Staubs is being held on $5,004 bond at the Putnam County Jail.

Since Haleigh disappeared, little information has been uncovered regarding her whereabouts.

Her father, Ronald Cummings, recently married his girlfriend Misty Croslin, who was home at the time Haleigh went missing.

http://www.wesh.com/news/19540822/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Dolce on May 22, 2009, 06:54:52 PM
::MonkeyDance:: ANOTHER VERY QUICK EASY EMAIL FOR AMBER DUBOIS!! ::MonkeyDance::

SEND TO: (Just copy and past into the "To" field of your email)

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Sample email:

Hello -

I am a faithful, longtime viewer.  I would like to call to your attention the case of Amber Dubois  - this beautiful 14 year old girl who went missing in Escondido, CA .

I want to hear more about this case.  I want to see her featured as a missing person.  This child’s disappearance could happen to any family and it is scary!  Please research and air her story.

Regards,


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 06:58:07 PM
I'm sniping HH, cause well, just cause

~~~
Even if Snodgrass had confessed to kidnapping Haleigh, that information would likely have been thrown out by the courts because of the false imprisonment. (Note: LE has already indicated they believe the abduction is not a stranger abduction which eliminates Snodgrass). Cobra could have caused a guilty man to walk free by his actions

~~~~~~

BUT SNODGRASS DOES KNOW HALEIGH!!!!

Let us be honest here.. we do not know for a fact, who Snodgrass knows and doesn't know.  He was very interested in the Haleighbug center..  Also we came across a connection in names with the families in an earlier post.. need to go back and see. Now,  how was Cobra going to hurt this case, when the shear facts of the criminal act, do not involve Cobra at all.  Cobra was acting in a professional manner,  knowing the guy was violating his terms of probation, by entering the Haleighbug center at all, and had gone there on a number of occasions and when Le was notified of his presence and he continued to run out of the center away to avoid the Le.  So, that means that witness's observed him in the center, he apparently had been ask to leave on several occasions and returned.  LE was aware that he was going there, they were aware that he was in violation of his bond, and they could have gone to his house and arrrested him and charged him with the violations and revoked his bond.  So, this is really bs.  Before Cobra took him into custody, he contacted the insurance co, involved in the bonding company, they advised him to go for it, and then after the man was in custody by Cobra, the insurance company called back and said, no don't take him into custody,  you need to release him..   When this hits court, and cobra has a good sharp attorney.. He will walk away clean..  And then he needs to file a civil action suit against, the county of putnam, the insurance company and snodgrass.  Will he will.. you betcha..

For the insurance company to change its mind, someone had to be in contact with them and put pressure on their decision, which means you can lay money on the odds that it was a detective from LE..  The concept it was going to hurt their case was crap.  If they had a case that was originally good enought for Le to arrest this man and charge him, and he was out on bond and violating his bond conditions, the only thing it hurts right now is the credibility of the Le officers for not taking action of his violations.  If the District attorney is trying to build a case against the girls father, he may be working a deal with Snodgrass to give the guy up, if this is the case what it might have hurt was the deal the da was trying to pull off to gain access to the father.  And that is bs. cobra embarressed the le.. thats all he did.. He showed them up as cops not doing their job.....   And my response to the da, the sheriff and his detective.. "Hey, life is rough, Shi--t Happens dude,  do the job - your paid to do.. Life goes on".....
My Goodness Mlee you sure do have a way with the truth there!
 ::MonkeyDance::

couldn't have said it any better myself!!!!!.....Cobra is just trying to find Haleigh. Everyone in that town should be backing him. Snodgrass didn't like being restrained,held against his will , and having the crap scared out of him well maybe now he is starting to get a clue about how that little 9 year old girl felt at least cobra didn't molest him while he was helpless on the ground!!!! LE should have looked the other way!!! JMO......someone post me a pic of a raging monkey !

I hope your ready for this one... I figure its GramaMonkey when she is ready to slap heads..
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 22, 2009, 07:09:02 PM
I'm sniping HH, cause well, just cause

~~~
Even if Snodgrass had confessed to kidnapping Haleigh, that information would likely have been thrown out by the courts because of the false imprisonment. (Note: LE has already indicated they believe the abduction is not a stranger abduction which eliminates Snodgrass). Cobra could have caused a guilty man to walk free by his actions

~~~~~~

BUT SNODGRASS DOES KNOW HALEIGH!!!!

Let us be honest here.. we do not know for a fact, who Snodgrass knows and doesn't know.  He was very interested in the Haleighbug center..  Also we came across a connection in names with the families in an earlier post.. need to go back and see. Now,  how was Cobra going to hurt this case, when the shear facts of the criminal act, do not involve Cobra at all.  Cobra was acting in a professional manner,  knowing the guy was violating his terms of probation, by entering the Haleighbug center at all, and had gone there on a number of occasions and when Le was notified of his presence and he continued to run out of the center away to avoid the Le.  So, that means that witness's observed him in the center, he apparently had been ask to leave on several occasions and returned.  LE was aware that he was going there, they were aware that he was in violation of his bond, and they could have gone to his house and arrrested him and charged him with the violations and revoked his bond.  So, this is really bs.  Before Cobra took him into custody, he contacted the insurance co, involved in the bonding company, they advised him to go for it, and then after the man was in custody by Cobra, the insurance company called back and said, no don't take him into custody,  you need to release him..   When this hits court, and cobra has a good sharp attorney.. He will walk away clean..  And then he needs to file a civil action suit against, the county of putnam, the insurance company and snodgrass.  Will he will.. you betcha..

For the insurance company to change its mind, someone had to be in contact with them and put pressure on their decision, which means you can lay money on the odds that it was a detective from LE..  The concept it was going to hurt their case was crap.  If they had a case that was originally good enought for Le to arrest this man and charge him, and he was out on bond and violating his bond conditions, the only thing it hurts right now is the credibility of the Le officers for not taking action of his violations.  If the District attorney is trying to build a case against the girls father, he may be working a deal with Snodgrass to give the guy up, if this is the case what it might have hurt was the deal the da was trying to pull off to gain access to the father.  And that is bs. cobra embarressed the le.. thats all he did.. He showed them up as cops not doing their job.....   And my response to the da, the sheriff and his detective.. "Hey, life is rough, Shi--t Happens dude,  do the job - your paid to do.. Life goes on".....
My Goodness Mlee you sure do have a way with the truth there!
 ::MonkeyDance::

couldn't have said it any better myself!!!!!.....Cobra is just trying to find Haleigh. Everyone in that town should be backing him. Snodgrass didn't like being restrained,held against his will , and having the crap scared out of him well maybe now he is starting to get a clue about how that little 9 year old girl felt at least cobra didn't molest him while he was helpless on the ground!!!! LE should have looked the other way!!! JMO......someone post me a pic of a raging monkey !

I hope your ready for this one... I figure its GramaMonkey when she is ready to slap heads..
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Thank you ....that is the first time I have laughed today....you are the best!....I will make now I am smiling ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 22, 2009, 07:09:28 PM
Cobra' arrested; Bounty hunter from Haleigh case charged with false imprisonment

    * By Matt Coleman
    * Story updated at 4:35 PM on Friday, May. 22, 2009


A South Florida bounty hunter involved in the search for Haleigh Cummings was charged Friday with falsely imprisoning a man who was free on bail on a child-sex charge.
 
William Eugene Staubs, 51, who goes by the name “Cobra,” was arrested after police said he handcuffed 55-year-old Daniel Everett Snodgrass March 20 and held him against his will.

The bounty hunter drove to Snodgrass’ Satsuma home about noon, turned on a siren and called for the man using a loudspeaker, according to a Putnam County Sheriff’s Office arrest report.

The report said the bondsman threw Snodgrass to the ground, put his knee in his back and handcuffed him. Two deputies watched as Snodgrass was forced into a sport utility vehicle, the report said. He was driven around for about an hour and interrogated.

He was dropped off back at home, and his kidnapper became far friendlier, asking for a hug and offering to “help him for free if he ever got into future trouble,” according to the arrest report.

Snodgrass was charged with capital sexual battery in December 2007. He is accused of sexually abusing a 9-year-old girl after tying her to a bed and taking pictures of the child and her 16-year-old sister dressed in lingerie.

He had been released from jail on bond, but Staubs did not represent the bonding agency. A Sheriff’s Office news release said the owner of C.E. Parish General Agency Inc. in Bushnell, the bonding agency responsible for Snodgrass, told Staubs the bond wasn’t to be revoked.

Staubs is an associate of Kim Picazio, a South Florida attorney representing Crystal Sheffield. Sheffield’s daughter, 5-year-old Haleigh, has been missing since Feb. 10 when she vanished from her Satsuma home.

Staubs was taken to the Putnam County jail. Bail was set at $5,000.

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-05-22/story/cobra_arrested_bounty_hunter_from_haleigh_case_charged_with_false_impris


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 07:10:38 PM
Is this anything???

http://registry.adoption.com/records/79164.html

Submitted By:  Rena Whitmore(a Birth Mother)
Origionally Added:  Jun 04, 2000
 
   Highlights of the Adoption Record -- the Adoptee

Birthplace:  Florida 
Birthdate:  October 28, 1957 
Gender:  Female 
Agency:   
Hospital:   
 Adoptee's Birthname:  Rena Whitmore
Adoptee's Name:   Unknown (Williams?)
Birthmother's Name:  Rena Whitmore
 


This is so good..  wow.. you deserve a star.. have to go through my bag of tricks and find you a treat....   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 22, 2009, 07:11:32 PM
::MonkeyDance:: ANOTHER VERY QUICK EASY EMAIL FOR AMBER DUBOIS!! ::MonkeyDance::

SEND TO: (Just copy and past into the "To" field of your email)

Sara.Farden@turner.com; Emanuella.Grinberg@turner.com; Rachel.wells@turner.com; Brooke.anderson@turner.com; Nancy.Baker@turner.com; Cynthia.Antoniak@msnbc.com; Tracey.lyons@msnbc.com; Matthew.Cantor@foxnews.com; Beth.Carey@turner.com; Natisha.Lance@turner.com; Macedo@foxnews.com; Diana.schaldenbrand@cbs.com; Dana.schimmel@ap.org; rbrown@amw.com; mxfraga@telemundo.com

Sample email:

Hello -

I am a faithful, longtime viewer.  I would like to call to your attention the case of Amber Dubois  - this beautiful 14 year old girl who went missing in Escondido, CA .

I want to hear more about this case.  I want to see her featured as a missing person.  This child’s disappearance could happen to any family and it is scary!  Please research and air her story.

Regards,


I did Dolce and thank you so much for doing what you can to help keep all of these cases out there for all the world to see.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 22, 2009, 07:12:27 PM
http://www.pcso.us/employment



They are also  asking for more help, must be thinkin they are likely to loose some by the time this is all over!

Alot of positions in Palatka... ::MonkeyTongue::

Putnam County Sheriff's Office

Join the Team Today!

Jeff Hardy, Sheriff

Other Incentives
 
Salary Incentive (certified officer)
$360.00/year Associates Degree
$960.00/year Bachelors Degree
$240.00/year for every 80 hours of
advanced training completed
 

 
Other Compensation (certified officer)
$ 350.00/year Associates Degree
$ 550.00/year Bachelors Degree
$ 850.00/year Masters Degree
$ 300.00/year Emergency Medical Technician
$ 300.00/year Foreign Language Skill
Paid Overtime for Special Teams/Units

 
Service and Promotional Opportunities
 
Special Teams
SWAT
Hostage Negotiations
Street Crimes Unit (STOP Team)
Corrections Response Team
Dive Team
Bicycle Unit
Motorcycle Traffic/Escort Unit
DUI/Traffic Unit
Honor Guard
Field Training Officer
CRT (Crisis Response Team)

 
Competitive Promotions
Sergeant and Lieutenant

 
Indianapolis Car Plan (some divisions may not apply)
Each Deputy Sheriff has an
assigned car that they take home everyday.


 





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 22, 2009, 07:22:22 PM
Is this anything???

http://registry.adoption.com/records/79164.html

Submitted By:  Rena Whitmore(a Birth Mother)
Origionally Added:  Jun 04, 2000
 
   Highlights of the Adoption Record -- the Adoptee

Birthplace:  Florida 
Birthdate:  October 28, 1957 
Gender:  Female 
Agency:   
Hospital:   
 Adoptee's Birthname:  Rena Whitmore
Adoptee's Name:   Unknown (Williams?)
Birthmother's Name:  Rena Whitmore
 


Oh wow my2cents, yes it is, its another step in the info gathering of Rena Whitmore.

Adoptee's Birthdate:      October 28, 1957
Birthplace:     Key West,
  Florida
Adoptee's Gender:     Female


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 07:26:58 PM
http://www.pcso.us/employment



They are also  asking for more help, must be thinkin they are likely to loose some by the time this is all over!

Alot of positions in Palatka... ::MonkeyTongue::

Putnam County Sheriff's Office

Join the Team Today!

Jeff Hardy, Sheriff

Other Incentives
 
Salary Incentive (certified officer)
$360.00/year Associates Degree
$960.00/year Bachelors Degree
$240.00/year for every 80 hours of
advanced training completed
 

 
Other Compensation (certified officer)
$ 350.00/year Associates Degree
$ 550.00/year Bachelors Degree
$ 850.00/year Masters Degree
$ 300.00/year Emergency Medical Technician
$ 300.00/year Foreign Language Skill
Paid Overtime for Special Teams/Units

 
Service and Promotional Opportunities
 
Special Teams
SWAT
Hostage Negotiations
Street Crimes Unit (STOP Team)
Corrections Response Team
Dive Team
Bicycle Unit
Motorcycle Traffic/Escort Unit
DUI/Traffic Unit
Honor Guard
Field Training Officer
CRT (Crisis Response Team)

 
Competitive Promotions
Sergeant and Lieutenant

 
Indianapolis Car Plan (some divisions may not apply)
Each Deputy Sheriff has an
assigned car that they take home everyday.


 





Maybe, Putnam county will actually hire a bunch of educated LE that know how to clean up a few communities.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 07:32:05 PM
Is this anything???

http://registry.adoption.com/records/79164.html

Submitted By:  Rena Whitmore(a Birth Mother)
Origionally Added:  Jun 04, 2000
 
   Highlights of the Adoption Record -- the Adoptee

Birthplace:  Florida 
Birthdate:  October 28, 1957 
Gender:  Female 
Agency:   
Hospital:   
 Adoptee's Birthname:  Rena Whitmore
Adoptee's Name:   Unknown (Williams?)
Birthmother's Name:  Rena Whitmore
 


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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 22, 2009, 07:52:04 PM

Annette Sykes, father's obit from www.findagrave.com  IMO

Birth:  unknown
Death:  Dec. 8, 2002

George Robert Stallings, 93, of Welaka died Sunday, December 8, 2002 at the residence of his son in Francis following an extended illness.

He was a native of Lowell County, Georgia. He served in the U.S. Navy on the U.S.S. Missouri.
He later owned and operated a barber shop in Boston, Ga. before moving to Brunswick, Ga., where he worked in a defense plant for several years.

He had been a resident of Putnam County for the past 59 years, first living in Francis and after 1968 in Welaka, where he had been a member of the Welaka Baptist Church for many years. He worked for the City of Palatka as a policeman up until 1948 when he went to work at the former Hudson Pulp and Paper Corp. in Palatka. He helped to construct the mill and remained employed there until 1959 when he retired on disability.

He was preceded in death by his wives: Iliff Stallings, Martha Stallings and Vera Stallings; one daughter: Hildred Stallings; and one son: George Martin Stallings.

He is survived by four sons and daughters-in-law: Carl and Neville Stallings, Wayman and Jean Stallings, and Ormand and Ruby Stallings, all of Francis; and Homer and Brenda Stallings, Satsuma; one daughter: Annette Sykes, Welaka; 18 grandchildren; 39 great grandchildren and 11 great great grandchildren.
Flowers are gratefully accepted or memorial gifts may be sent to Hospice of the Lakes, 6400 St. Johns Ave., Palatka, FL 32177.

Calling hours will be from 5 until 7 p.m., Wednesday at Masters Funeral Home, Palatka.
Funeral services will be 11 a.m., Thursday, Dec. 12 at the funeral home, with the Rev. Sonny Pipkins officiating.

In honor of Mr. Stallings life a video tribute will be shown during the service.
Interment will follow in Palatka Memorial Gardens.
Masters Funeral Home of Palatka is in charge of arrangements
 
Burial:
Palatka Memorial Gardens
Palatka
Putnam County
Florida, USA
 
Created by: Kristy Thomas
Record added: Mar 02, 2008
Find A Grave Memorial# 24993154
 

Great job seahorse!  So this is Why he Gave Annette and Myles property for the sum of love and affection, he was her dad.  He died close to the time when Myles Sykes did.


---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I can not retrieve the complete information but she is listed on Ancestry.com.
She married Welfenberg in Missouri, so..Dorothy Annette Squires, this may be to Myles Sykes? (#3)


Dorothy Annette Squires

Florida Marriage Collection, 1822-1875 and 1927-2001


Birth, Marriage & Death
 
 
PreviewName: Dorothy Annette Squires
County of Marriage: Putnam
 
 
 

--------------------


This is curious, but, QUESTIONABLE
I found a Dorothy Squires. as a WAC

http://userdb.rootsweb.ancestry.com/news/cgi-bin/search.cgi?main_id=638464&database=Newspaper%20Indexes&return_to=http://userdb.rootsweb.com/news/&submitter_id=

Newspaper Index for Dorothy, WAC SQUIRES
Name: SQUIRES, Dorothy, WAC
Paper: Batavia Daily News
Page 6
Published: New York, Genesee Co. NY

Event Date: September 12, 1944
Headline: Joins WAC



 




---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I found "Betty Louise Squires" as the daughter of Joe Stephen Squires on the Texas records, Harris, TEXAS.
Yes, that should be a sister to Teresa Annette Squires.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 22, 2009, 07:56:23 PM
William “Cobra” Staubs – What Really Happened In Putnam County Today

Posted on May 22nd, 2009

by Simon Barrett in Society and Culture


Cobra has been tirelessly looking for the missing girl, Haleigh Cummings. Of course not all help is viewed as useful. And certainly Cobra has created a certain amount of havoc in his investigations. He is a rough and ready guy, he is also the nicest man you could ever meet. It is an overused phrase, but Cobra is the guy that would give you the shirt off his back.

I reported yesterday that an arrest warrant had been issued for Cobra, and he is a man of his word, an honorable man. He said that he would turn himself in to Putnan County early this morning, and he did just that.

When I spoke to him, and some other people yesterday, the game plan was to already have the Bond filed, and it should just be a question of walking in, filling out the forms, a picture, and fingerprints and walk out again.

Of course the best laid plans of men and mice do have a tendency of going astray. Today was a fine example,  a telling example. Know your friends before trusting them.

The bond had been arranged through a local company, a company that Cobra had some previous dealings with. (It won’t take much research to find the name, but I for one do not wish to publish it!). He arrived at the appointed time, all of the paperwork was in order, and the bond company went in and posted it.

Cobra then surrendered to the police, and was processed. All was going well, he had just been told that he was free to go, when the phone rang, the bond company had changed their mind! The door was locked, Cobra was led to the holding cells, forced to strip (likely not a pretty sight) and made to put on prison garb.

According to reports a second local bondsman refused to help, offering the sage advice ‘you are going away for a long time’. That statement blew my mind, Cobra always talks in such glowing terms about the brothers and sisters in the trade, and how they look after each other.

The good news is, there are decent people in this world, a bond company out of Miami stepped in, and after two hours behind bars Cobra was freed.

Needless to say Cobra Staubs is absolutely fuming over this entire fiasco, and I do not blame him.

I’ll share a secret with you all, yesterday morning there were a flurry of phone calls and emails between us press types, and we had decided to drop a particular line of questioning as it was not helping the search for Haleigh, it was counterproductive. Well I think that line of questioning is now back on the table.

Clearly the major thrust is to find Haleigh Cummings, and in my eyes there are only two people actually engaged on that mission, to slap felony charges on Cobra is insanity.

I will have more information tomorrow, but we do plan on running a radio show on Sunday. Cobra will be on, and it will be a cracker!

Simon Barrett

http://www.bloggernews.net/120979


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 22, 2009, 08:21:31 PM
Thanks Heart  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 22, 2009, 08:31:15 PM
Is this anything???

http://registry.adoption.com/records/79164.html

Submitted By:  Rena Whitmore(a Birth Mother)
Origionally Added:  Jun 04, 2000
 
   Highlights of the Adoption Record -- the Adoptee

Birthplace:  Florida 
Birthdate:  October 28, 1957 
Gender:  Female 
Agency:   
Hospital:   
 Adoptee's Birthname:  Rena Whitmore
Adoptee's Name:   Unknown (Williams?)
Birthmother's Name:  Rena Whitmore
 


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yeah! my first trophies as a monkey.....i'm so proud! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 22, 2009, 08:34:38 PM
http://www.pcso.us/employment



They are also  asking for more help, must be thinkin they are likely to loose some by the time this is all over!

Alot of positions in Palatka... ::MonkeyTongue::

Putnam County Sheriff's Office

Join the Team Today!

Jeff Hardy, Sheriff

Other Incentives
 
Salary Incentive (certified officer)
$360.00/year Associates Degree
$960.00/year Bachelors Degree
$240.00/year for every 80 hours of
advanced training completed
 

 
Other Compensation (certified officer)
$ 350.00/year Associates Degree
$ 550.00/year Bachelors Degree
$ 850.00/year Masters Degree
$ 300.00/year Emergency Medical Technician
$ 300.00/year Foreign Language Skill
Paid Overtime for Special Teams/Units

 
Service and Promotional Opportunities
 
Special Teams
SWAT
Hostage Negotiations
Street Crimes Unit (STOP Team)
Corrections Response Team
Dive Team
Bicycle Unit
Motorcycle Traffic/Escort UnitDUI/Traffic Unit
Honor Guard
Field Training Officer
CRT (Crisis Response Team)

 
Competitive Promotions
Sergeant and Lieutenant

 
Indianapolis Car Plan (some divisions may not apply)
Each Deputy Sheriff has an
assigned car that they take home everyday.


Here is my resume~   I am qualified and then some...

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: ospainter on May 22, 2009, 08:56:51 PM
Here is an article that appeared in the Palatka News. I joined to get the online copy.

March 25, 2009

BY KRISTIN CHAMBERS
Palatka Daily News
SATSUMA – A bounty hunter has been accused of illegally detaining a Putnam County man free on bail on a sex abuse charge. William Staubs, 51, who calls himself “Cobra,” recently traveled to Satsuma in the wake of the disappearance of Haleigh  Cummings, a 5-year-old girl reported missing Feb. 10.
On Friday, deputies say Staubs apprehended and handcuffed Daniel Snodgrass, 55, who in 2007 was charged with capital sexual battery of a 9-yearold girl. Snodgrass was held for an hour, deputies  added. County authorities submitted a report Tuesday to the State Attorney’s Office in Palatka detailing the results of their investigation and whether Staubs, who reportedly has worked for bail agencies, had authority to place Snodgrass in custody. It was unclear Tuesday night how long the case would be reviewed by prosecutors. Snodgrass is free on bail and under electronic supervision until his trial this summer and recently offered to donate goods to the Cummings family. According to a report filed by Deputy Richard Griffin, who interviewed several witnesses, Staubs had driven his black SUV to the Snodgrass residence, parked and walked past a “No Trespassing” sign. Snodgrass, who had called 911, stepped outside after deputies arrived, Griffin said. Even though no warrant had been issued, Staubs told Snodgrass he was under arrest and handcuffed his arms and his legs and “forced him to the ground,” Griffin said. Staubs then shoved his knee into Snodgrass’ back, and “yanked” him off the ground into the SUV, Griffin said. Snodgrass was questioned for an hour by Staubs while being driven around the Satsuma area with a cameraman, Martin Reed, riding along, before Snodgrass was taken back home, Griffin said. Staubs asked Snodgrass if they “were cool” after returning to the residence, asked for a hug and offered to do free private investigation work, the report said. Staubs reportedly told Snodgrass he wouldn’t have been arrested if he had answered Staub’s questions. Snodgrass signed a complaint affidavit against Staubs for false imprisonment, the report said. Efforts were unsuccessful to reach Staubs for comment about the incident. The phone number for Staubs on Griffin’s report was not a working number, according to a telephone company recording.

kchambers@palatkadailynews.com

imo, there is a lot more to this whole story that might come out..Guess we will have to wait and see.

Oh and if everyone remembers AnnaFL was here looking for info. about Snodgrass before this even happened.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 22, 2009, 09:04:02 PM
Thanks Heart!

I just read the article and some of the comments over there.  Conspiracy theories abound!

I am not sure where I lie in regards to Cobra at the moment.

Do I think Cobra should have been arrested NO. The POS SO  shouldn't even be walking free right now, but he is, and ya can't just slap cuffs on people and drive them around questioning them for an hour, should he have these rights IMO NO, but unfortunately he does, and Cobra should have known better. As for the whole KP involvement in all of this I call BS, if KP had that kinda pull there I think we would have seen a lot more action on the part of LE and DCF involving the alleged claims of abuse.

I appreciate what Cobra is doing, and at first was very happy he was there .... at least someone is looking for Haleigh. I think Cobra got lost somewhere along the way, in each one of his recent radio shows and in the TJ Hart clips Cobra has mentioned making money, getting donations.

Simon and Pickles need to stop sharing whatever they are drinking or smoking with Cobra.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 22, 2009, 09:20:06 PM
Here is an article that appeared in the Palatka News. I joined to get the online copy.

March 25, 2009

BY KRISTIN CHAMBERS
Palatka Daily News
SATSUMA – A bounty hunter has been accused of illegally detaining a Putnam County man free on bail on a sex abuse charge. William Staubs, 51, who calls himself “Cobra,” recently traveled to Satsuma in the wake of the disappearance of Haleigh  Cummings, a 5-year-old girl reported missing Feb. 10.
On Friday, deputies say Staubs apprehended and handcuffed Daniel Snodgrass, 55, who in 2007 was charged with capital sexual battery of a 9-yearold girl. Snodgrass was held for an hour, deputies  added. County authorities submitted a report Tuesday to the State Attorney’s Office in Palatka detailing the results of their investigation and whether Staubs, who reportedly has worked for bail agencies, had authority to place Snodgrass in custody. It was unclear Tuesday night how long the case would be reviewed by prosecutors. Snodgrass is free on bail and under electronic supervision until his trial this summer and recently offered to donate goods to the Cummings family. According to a report filed by Deputy Richard Griffin, who interviewed several witnesses, Staubs had driven his black SUV to the Snodgrass residence, parked and walked past a “No Trespassing” sign. Snodgrass, who had called 911, stepped outside after deputies arrived, Griffin said. Even though no warrant had been issued, Staubs told Snodgrass he was under arrest and handcuffed his arms and his legs and “forced him to the ground,” Griffin said. Staubs then shoved his knee into Snodgrass’ back, and “yanked” him off the ground into the SUV, Griffin said. Snodgrass was questioned for an hour by Staubs while being driven around the Satsuma area with a cameraman, Martin Reed, riding along, before Snodgrass was taken back home, Griffin said. Staubs asked Snodgrass if they “were cool” after returning to the residence, asked for a hug and offered to do free private investigation work, the report said. Staubs reportedly told Snodgrass he wouldn’t have been arrested if he had answered Staub’s questions. Snodgrass signed a complaint affidavit against Staubs for false imprisonment, the report said. Efforts were unsuccessful to reach Staubs for comment about the incident. The phone number for Staubs on Griffin’s report was not a working number, according to a telephone company recording.

kchambers@palatkadailynews.com

imo, there is a lot more to this whole story that might come out..Guess we will have to wait and see.

Oh and if everyone remembers AnnaFL was here looking for info. about Snodgrass before this even happened.

I wonder exactly who the "source" was for this reporter? Who's account is this of what occurred that day? I guess we will have to wait and see.
As for AnnaFL do you recall exactly what it was she was after?

This whole thing has me beyond words frustrated right now. I'm not even sure what to think about Simon and Ms. Pickles or whatever her name is. They might not be getting a dime for their time and effort but they are getting publicity. The way this whole thing is leaning it is ugly. I thought TJ Hart and Art Harris were supposed to participate on Sunday but Simon today said no to both. (I saw it advertized differently during the week.)
You would think they (TJH and AH) would be all over this situation if it were going to lead to finding Haleigh.
I think Cobra "officially" needs a publicist, an attorney and a public communications director and probably a few more things to boot. I don't think he knew for one second what was in the road up ahead when he decided to go and look for little Haleigh. If Art Harris and TJ Hart are advising him at all I sure hope he is listening to them before this whole thing becomes one gigantic embarrassment when he never deserved it.
OK yeah there is a case against him right now. Let's wait and see what is going to happen with that.
Cobra needs to step back away from the mess and start making some phone calls IMHO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: ospainter on May 22, 2009, 09:21:21 PM
Cookie, I know your not online right now, but hope you see this.

Do you remember when this was on HLN's and we both responded here about it?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4610.1640

You posted:

    
Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #3
« Reply #1656 on: March 03, 2009, 06:28:39 PM »
   
Capt. on HLN says that no one has been ruled out...also says that Haleigh was seen in the evening by a neighbor...Ron had gotten Haleigh off of the bus...getting tips from psychics....brick that was holding door is still being tested....


I posted:

    
Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #3
« Reply #1658 on: March 03, 2009, 06:30:57 PM »
   
Someone from LE just stated on HLNs that a neighbor saw Haleigh in late evening. Didn't say exactly what time.

Also he said that father got Haleigh off the school bus.

He said NO ONE has been cleared so far.

Anyone else hear this?

OS


The reason I am asking, I have searched online to try and find the video or transcript, wondering if you might have a copy.

I sent an email to HLN's and got this response:

Thank you for contacting HLN. Please contact Cision Video Monitoring Service at 866-639-5087 for footage of CNN programming. Cision is a company not affiliated with CNN. Transcripts of our shows and news segments are available at no charge on our Web site at www.CNN.com/transcripts.

I thought I would ask you before I call. The transcript is not online that I can find.

Thank you,

OS



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: ospainter on May 22, 2009, 09:35:26 PM

I wonder exactly who the "source" was for this reporter? Who's account is this of what occurred that day? I guess we will have to wait and see.
As for AnnaFL do you recall exactly what it was she was after?

This whole thing has me beyond words frustrated right now. I'm not even sure what to think about Simon and Ms. Pickles or whatever her name is. They might not be getting a dime for their time and effort but they are getting publicity. The way this whole thing is leaning it is ugly. I thought TJ Hart and Art Harris were supposed to participate on Sunday but Simon today said no to both. (I saw it advertized differently during the week.)
You would think they (TJH and AH) would be all over this situation if it were going to lead to finding Haleigh.
I think Cobra "officially" needs a publicist, an attorney and a public communications director and probably a few more things to boot. I don't think he knew for one second what was in the road up ahead when he decided to go and look for little Haleigh. If Art Harris and TJ Hart are advising him at all I sure hope he is listening to them before this whole thing becomes one gigantic embarrassment when he never deserved it.
OK yeah there is a case against him right now. Let's wait and see what is going to happen with that.
Cobra needs to step back away from the mess and start making some phone calls IMHO.

Hi Patricia,

It looks to me like the reporter is quoting the officer or his report.

AnnaFL came here to get us to help her get info. about Snodgrass and we did. AnnaFL iirc was trying to make a connection with Snodgrass and Misty, which evidently was a rumor going around. Snodgrass was interviewed by LE and nothing that I know of ever came of it. Just a rumor..but glad LE checked that POS out. That should have been enough imo. but it wasn't and now we have this.

There's more that I won't go into..we will just have to wait and see.

None of this is helping to find Haleigh and that is all I and everyone here wants. It's a shame.

OS





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 22, 2009, 09:35:59 PM
Here is an article that appeared in the Palatka News. I joined to get the online copy.

March 25, 2009

BY KRISTIN CHAMBERS
Palatka Daily News
SATSUMA – A bounty hunter has been accused of illegally detaining a Putnam County man free on bail on a sex abuse charge. William Staubs, 51, who calls himself “Cobra,” recently traveled to Satsuma in the wake of the disappearance of Haleigh  Cummings, a 5-year-old girl reported missing Feb. 10.
On Friday, deputies say Staubs apprehended and handcuffed Daniel Snodgrass, 55, who in 2007 was charged with capital sexual battery of a 9-yearold girl. Snodgrass was held for an hour, deputies  added. County authorities submitted a report Tuesday to the State Attorney’s Office in Palatka detailing the results of their investigation and whether Staubs, who reportedly has worked for bail agencies, had authority to place Snodgrass in custody. It was unclear Tuesday night how long the case would be reviewed by prosecutors. Snodgrass is free on bail and under electronic supervision until his trial this summer and recently offered to donate goods to the Cummings family. According to a report filed by Deputy Richard Griffin, who interviewed several witnesses, Staubs had driven his black SUV to the Snodgrass residence, parked and walked past a “No Trespassing” sign. Snodgrass, who had called 911, stepped outside after deputies arrived, Griffin said. Even though no warrant had been issued, Staubs told Snodgrass he was under arrest and handcuffed his arms and his legs and “forced him to the ground,” Griffin said. Staubs then shoved his knee into Snodgrass’ back, and “yanked” him off the ground into the SUV, Griffin said. Snodgrass was questioned for an hour by Staubs while being driven around the Satsuma area with a cameraman, Martin Reed, riding along, before Snodgrass was taken back home, Griffin said. Staubs asked Snodgrass if they “were cool” after returning to the residence, asked for a hug and offered to do free private investigation work, the report said. Staubs reportedly told Snodgrass he wouldn’t have been arrested if he had answered Staub’s questions. Snodgrass signed a complaint affidavit against Staubs for false imprisonment, the report said. Efforts were unsuccessful to reach Staubs for comment about the incident. The phone number for Staubs on Griffin’s report was not a working number, according to a telephone company recording.

kchambers@palatkadailynews.com

imo, there is a lot more to this whole story that might come out..Guess we will have to wait and see.

Oh and if everyone remembers AnnaFL was here looking for info. about Snodgrass before this even happened.


ospainter since you can access there would you mind looking up the obit for Eric Belcher I saw it in the archives but I could not get the whole thing ....would be nice to see it....thank you


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: ospainter on May 22, 2009, 09:44:28 PM


ospainter since you can access there would you mind looking up the obit for Eric Belcher I saw it in the archives but I could not get the whole thing ....would be nice to see it....thank you

Hi my2cents

I would be glad to, but my subscription expired in April. I have had that article for a while.. Think I paid $6.84 for 30 days.

Sorry

OS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 22, 2009, 09:51:29 PM


ospainter since you can access there would you mind looking up the obit for Eric Belcher I saw it in the archives but I could not get the whole thing ....would be nice to see it....thank you

Hi my2cents

I would be glad to, but my subscription expired in April. I have had that article for a while.. Think I paid $6.84 for 30 days.

Sorry

OS

That's okay  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 22, 2009, 09:53:04 PM

I wonder exactly who the "source" was for this reporter? Who's account is this of what occurred that day? I guess we will have to wait and see.
As for AnnaFL do you recall exactly what it was she was after?

This whole thing has me beyond words frustrated right now. I'm not even sure what to think about Simon and Ms. Pickles or whatever her name is. They might not be getting a dime for their time and effort but they are getting publicity. The way this whole thing is leaning it is ugly. I thought TJ Hart and Art Harris were supposed to participate on Sunday but Simon today said no to both. (I saw it advertized differently during the week.)
You would think they (TJH and AH) would be all over this situation if it were going to lead to finding Haleigh.
I think Cobra "officially" needs a publicist, an attorney and a public communications director and probably a few more things to boot. I don't think he knew for one second what was in the road up ahead when he decided to go and look for little Haleigh. If Art Harris and TJ Hart are advising him at all I sure hope he is listening to them before this whole thing becomes one gigantic embarrassment when he never deserved it.
OK yeah there is a case against him right now. Let's wait and see what is going to happen with that.
Cobra needs to step back away from the mess and start making some phone calls IMHO.

Hi Patricia,

It looks to me like the reporter is quoting the officer or his report.

AnnaFL came here to get us to help her get info. about Snodgrass and we did. AnnaFL iirc was trying to make a connection with Snodgrass and Misty, which evidently was a rumor going around. Snodgrass was interviewed by LE and nothing that I know of ever came of it. Just a rumor..but glad LE checked that POS out. That should have been enough imo. but it wasn't and now we have this.

There's more that I won't go into..we will just have to wait and see.

None of this is helping to find Haleigh and that is all I and everyone here wants. It's a shame.

OS




Sad to say but I agree with you and you are right, it is a shame...a sad shame.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: ospainter on May 22, 2009, 10:03:25 PM
Gotta go.

Hugs,

OS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 10:18:36 PM
I was looking for the photo of misty's mom and dad that someone has been asking for.  When I couldn't find it I thought maybe they saw it in a video and not a photo so in checking through videos I found this one where the croslins speak out and who is right up under their buts....RC's dad.  Damage control maybe?

http://tr.truveo.com/croslin-family-speaks/id/1346972614   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 10:25:52 PM
Ok we have dug deeper into the backgrounds of a bunch of those involved lately, but not all.  Now It's on to Sheffield/Griffis and The Croslins.  If any of you monkeys has any info we can start with, post it.  I think we need to make a family tree with haleigh in the center and all of her family branching out and put all related info by their names.  I think it would give us a better picture of the overall situation.  We should even list Known ex's and friends and enemys/rivals for everybody on it too.   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 22, 2009, 10:29:10 PM
I was looking for the photo of misty's mom and dad that someone has been asking for.  When I couldn't find it I thought maybe they saw it in a video and not a photo so in checking through videos I found this one where the croslins speak out and who is right up under their buts....RC's dad.  Damage control maybe?

http://tr.truveo.com/croslin-family-speaks/id/1346972614   

Hi that was me looking for the pic of the croslin's thanks for trying!!! I can't get the video to work... my computer has issues since my son got a hold of it..
it just dawned on me that I have been following this case since day 1 and I don't recall ever even seeing RC's dad...  what is his first name/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 22, 2009, 10:32:41 PM
Ok we have dug deeper into the backgrounds of a bunch of those involved lately, but not all.  Now It's on to Sheffield/Griffis and The Croslins.  If any of you monkeys has any info we can start with, post it.  I think we need to make a family tree with haleigh in the center and all of her family branching out and put all related info by their names.  I think it would give us a better picture of the overall situation.  We should even list Known ex's and friends and enemys/rivals for everybody on it too.   
Here's a lovely appetizer Brandon frye Misty's cousin from Tennesse (also Joe's cousin)... he's a real beaut
http://www.myspace.com/tha_villes_illest_kixxx
he was planning a trip to fl to see his aunt marilyn on 2/4/09... don't know if he came with Joe and I have been unable thus far to determine who marilyn is


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 22, 2009, 10:37:34 PM
I have tried the fam tree so many times and i get lost... to many house hoppers to figure siblings vs. cousins and too  many people with the same names... but if you want to start i will add what i know so far... i suggest handwriting it on paper before claiming it in type... and use a pencil you will need it   ::MonkeyHaHa:: LOL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 22, 2009, 10:41:58 PM
So if you are correct that the source was LE I'm wondering how that's going to work out in court when Cobra explains to the judge that LE was present when this "illegal detaining" was taking place and that the LE who were there at the time the "alleged" incident occurred was then willingly giving this information out to the media?

(I need some motrin after today and that is a fact!)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 22, 2009, 10:43:47 PM
So if you are correct that the source was LE I'm wondering how that's going to work out in court when Cobra explains to the judge that LE was present when this "illegal detaining" was taking place and that the LE who were there at the time the "alleged" incident occurred was then willingly giving this information out to the media?

(I need some motrin after today and that is a fact!)

OOps I meant to address this to OS.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 10:44:25 PM
Cookie, I know your not online right now, but hope you see this.

Do you remember when this was on HLN's and we both responded here about it?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4610.1640

You posted:

    
Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #3
« Reply #1656 on: March 03, 2009, 06:28:39 PM »
   
Capt. on HLN says that no one has been ruled out...also says that Haleigh was seen in the evening by a neighbor...Ron had gotten Haleigh off of the bus...getting tips from psychics....brick that was holding door is still being tested....


I posted:

    
Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #3
« Reply #1658 on: March 03, 2009, 06:30:57 PM »
   
Someone from LE just stated on HLNs that a neighbor saw Haleigh in late evening. Didn't say exactly what time.

Also he said that father got Haleigh off the school bus.

He said NO ONE has been cleared so far.

Anyone else hear this?

OS


The reason I am asking, I have searched online to try and find the video or transcript, wondering if you might have a copy.

I sent an email to HLN's and got this response:

Thank you for contacting HLN. Please contact Cision Video Monitoring Service at 866-639-5087 for footage of CNN programming. Cision is a company not affiliated with CNN. Transcripts of our shows and news segments are available at no charge on our Web site at www.CNN.com/transcripts.

I thought I would ask you before I call. The transcript is not online that I can find.

Thank you,

OS



I found this JVM transcript from March 3, 2009
Not sure if it is what your looking for.
http://tr.truveo.com/croslin-family-speaks/id/1346972614

In it it mentions a cummings neighbor and police got a tip about his doorbell (which he says he doesn't have), His name is Marty Hubbard and on Art's article about snodgrass wanting to donate to the haleigh bug it said that when snodgrass was confronted about being a SO he called out to his friend MARTY to call the police.
I wonder if the two marty's could be one in the same???

Also A door bell that rings like a grandfather clock...Could it be a ringtone for a cell phone??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 10:51:05 PM
I was looking for the photo of misty's mom and dad that someone has been asking for.  When I couldn't find it I thought maybe they saw it in a video and not a photo so in checking through videos I found this one where the croslins speak out and who is right up under their buts....RC's dad.  Damage control maybe?

http://tr.truveo.com/croslin-family-speaks/id/1346972614   

Hi that was me looking for the pic of the croslin's thanks for trying!!! I can't get the video to work... my computer has issues since my son got a hold of it..
it just dawned on me that I have been following this case since day 1 and I don't recall ever even seeing RC's dad...  what is his first name/

Jack Lester cummings his mugshot is floating around here somewhere just type his name in the search box and see if it comes up.  He was there when geraldo so called attacked ron. :)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 22, 2009, 10:52:53 PM
Cookie, I know your not online right now, but hope you see this.

Do you remember when this was on HLN's and we both responded here about it?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4610.1640

You posted:

    
Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #3
« Reply #1656 on: March 03, 2009, 06:28:39 PM »
   
Capt. on HLN says that no one has been ruled out...also says that Haleigh was seen in the evening by a neighbor...Ron had gotten Haleigh off of the bus...getting tips from psychics....brick that was holding door is still being tested....


I posted:

    
Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #3
« Reply #1658 on: March 03, 2009, 06:30:57 PM »
   
Someone from LE just stated on HLNs that a neighbor saw Haleigh in late evening. Didn't say exactly what time.

Also he said that father got Haleigh off the school bus.

He said NO ONE has been cleared so far.

Anyone else hear this?

OS


The reason I am asking, I have searched online to try and find the video or transcript, wondering if you might have a copy.

I sent an email to HLN's and got this response:

Thank you for contacting HLN. Please contact Cision Video Monitoring Service at 866-639-5087 for footage of CNN programming. Cision is a company not affiliated with CNN. Transcripts of our shows and news segments are available at no charge on our Web site at www.CNN.com/transcripts.

I thought I would ask you before I call. The transcript is not online that I can find.

Thank you,

OS



I found this JVM transcript from March 3, 2009
Not sure if it is what your looking for.
http://tr.truveo.com/croslin-family-speaks/id/1346972614

In it it mentions a cummings neighbor and police got a tip about his doorbell (which he says he doesn't have), His name is Marty Hubbard and on Art's article about snodgrass wanting to donate to the haleigh bug it said that when snodgrass was confronted about being a SO he called out to his friend MARTY to call the police.
I wonder if the two marty's could be one in the same???

Also A door bell that rings like a grandfather clock...Could it be a ringtone for a cell phone??
I think you put the wrong link


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 22, 2009, 10:53:03 PM
Thanks Heart!

I just read the article and some of the comments over there.  Conspiracy theories abound!

I am not sure where I lie in regards to Cobra at the moment.

Do I think Cobra should have been arrested NO. The POS SO  shouldn't even be walking free right now, but he is, and ya can't just slap cuffs on people and drive them around questioning them for an hour, should he have these rights IMO NO, but unfortunately he does, and Cobra should have known better. As for the whole KP involvement in all of this I call BS, if KP had that kinda pull there I think we would have seen a lot more action on the part of LE and DCF involving the alleged claims of abuse.

I appreciate what Cobra is doing, and at first was very happy he was there .... at least someone is looking for Haleigh. I think Cobra got lost somewhere along the way, in each one of his recent radio shows and in the TJ Hart clips Cobra has mentioned making money, getting donations.

Simon and Pickles need to stop sharing whatever they are drinking or smoking with Cobra.

Maven,  I am surprised that it had not happened sooner.  I too appreciate Cobra trying to help find Haleigh.  However it has always been my opinion that the gun/s and camera/s were a bit much. And after reading the Palatka News article that Monkey ospainter posted, that just strengthens my opinion.

Is this all about finding Haleigh or what is really going on?

I have never seen anything like this.

My hope is that Haleigh is found safe and placed in a safe environment wherever that may be.

And I hope that Cobra will eventually return to his own family safe and sound.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 11:04:46 PM
Try this one
http://tr.truveo.com/croslin-family-speaks/id/1627720880
if it doesn't work just google search croslin speak out video
it should come up but there will be a comercial first so just wait it out for a sec

Link to photo for Jack cummings RC's dad 
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=750776&IMG=30907


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 22, 2009, 11:12:02 PM
Cookie, I know your not online right now, but hope you see this.

Do you remember when this was on HLN's and we both responded here about it?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4610.1640

You posted:

    
Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #3
« Reply #1656 on: March 03, 2009, 06:28:39 PM »
   
Capt. on HLN says that no one has been ruled out...also says that Haleigh was seen in the evening by a neighbor...Ron had gotten Haleigh off of the bus...getting tips from psychics....brick that was holding door is still being tested....


I posted:

    
Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #3
« Reply #1658 on: March 03, 2009, 06:30:57 PM »
   
Someone from LE just stated on HLNs that a neighbor saw Haleigh in late evening. Didn't say exactly what time.

Also he said that father got Haleigh off the school bus.

He said NO ONE has been cleared so far.

Anyone else hear this?

OS


The reason I am asking, I have searched online to try and find the video or transcript, wondering if you might have a copy.

I sent an email to HLN's and got this response:

Thank you for contacting HLN. Please contact Cision Video Monitoring Service at 866-639-5087 for footage of CNN programming. Cision is a company not affiliated with CNN. Transcripts of our shows and news segments are available at no charge on our Web site at www.CNN.com/transcripts.

I thought I would ask you before I call. The transcript is not online that I can find.

Thank you,

OS



I found this JVM transcript from March 3, 2009
Not sure if it is what your looking for.
http://tr.truveo.com/croslin-family-speaks/id/1346972614

In it it mentions a cummings neighbor and police got a tip about his doorbell (which he says he doesn't have), His name is Marty Hubbard and on Art's article about snodgrass wanting to donate to the haleigh bug it said that when snodgrass was confronted about being a SO he called out to his friend MARTY to call the police.
I wonder if the two marty's could be one in the same???

Also A door bell that rings like a grandfather clock...Could it be a ringtone for a cell phone??
I think you put the wrong link
also I have no clue what you are talking about a doorbell but i will go read it on arts site I guess....
anyways I know for a fact that a good 80% of remote doorbells.. Like the removable kind where you stick the buzzer outside and the noise maker inside with no wires involved... they all sound like a grandfather clock I know because we had to buy one and I returned 5 different brands because i hated the sound of it


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 11:20:24 PM
Sorry ::MonkeyHaHa::  I'm do so much digging that I'm   ::MonkeyConfused::  I have 7 tabs open with different info on all this.  Thanks for pointing out my mistake. 
I found this JVM transcript from March 3, 2009
Not sure if it is what your looking for.
In it it mentions a cummings neighbor and police got a tip about his doorbell (which he says he doesn't have), His name is Marty Hubbard and on Art's article about snodgrass wanting to donate to the haleigh bug it said that when snodgrass was confronted about being a SO he called out to his friend MARTY to call the police.
I wonder if the two marty's could be one in the same???
Also A door bell that rings like a grandfather clock...Could it be a ringtone for a cell phone??
The correct link should be
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/03/ijvm.01.html

Oh and great thought on the wireless doorbells


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 22, 2009, 11:28:00 PM
Cookie, I know your not online right now, but hope you see this.

Do you remember when this was on HLN's and we both responded here about it?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4610.1640

You posted:

    
Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #3
« Reply #1656 on: March 03, 2009, 06:28:39 PM »
   
Capt. on HLN says that no one has been ruled out...also says that Haleigh was seen in the evening by a neighbor...Ron had gotten Haleigh off of the bus...getting tips from psychics....brick that was holding door is still being tested....


I posted:

    
Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #3
« Reply #1658 on: March 03, 2009, 06:30:57 PM »
   
Someone from LE just stated on HLNs that a neighbor saw Haleigh in late evening. Didn't say exactly what time.

Also he said that father got Haleigh off the school bus.

He said NO ONE has been cleared so far.

Anyone else hear this?

OS


The reason I am asking, I have searched online to try and find the video or transcript, wondering if you might have a copy.

I sent an email to HLN's and got this response:

Thank you for contacting HLN. Please contact Cision Video Monitoring Service at 866-639-5087 for footage of CNN programming. Cision is a company not affiliated with CNN. Transcripts of our shows and news segments are available at no charge on our Web site at www.CNN.com/transcripts.

I thought I would ask you before I call. The transcript is not online that I can find.

Thank you,

OS



os, you may want to look here:  http://www.blinkx.com/videos/Haleigh+Cummings


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 22, 2009, 11:36:18 PM
I have tried the fam tree so many times and i get lost... to many house hoppers to figure siblings vs. cousins and too  many people with the same names... but if you want to start i will add what i know so far... i suggest handwriting it on paper before claiming it in type... and use a pencil you will need it   ::MonkeyHaHa:: LOL


lots of info here...
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:nwb1-7UddnUJ:www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php%3Ft%3D79849+hank+croslin+jr&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 22, 2009, 11:39:53 PM
Good night Monkeys ...Have a great weekend!!!! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 22, 2009, 11:55:45 PM
I was looking for the photo of misty's mom and dad that someone has been asking for.  When I couldn't find it I thought maybe they saw it in a video and not a photo so in checking through videos I found this one where the croslins speak out and who is right up under their buts....RC's dad.  Damage control maybe?

http://tr.truveo.com/croslin-family-speaks/id/1346972614   

Hi that was me looking for the pic of the croslin's thanks for trying!!! I can't get the video to work... my computer has issues since my son got a hold of it..
it just dawned on me that I have been following this case since day 1 and I don't recall ever even seeing RC's dad...  what is his first name/

I have been unsuccessful in find that picture. Ron's dad .... I think I knew his name at one point  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 22, 2009, 11:56:20 PM
Good night
Hope you have a great weekend also.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 22, 2009, 11:57:06 PM
I have tried the fam tree so many times and i get lost... to many house hoppers to figure siblings vs. cousins and too  many people with the same names... but if you want to start i will add what i know so far... i suggest handwriting it on paper before claiming it in type... and use a pencil you will need it   ::MonkeyHaHa:: LOL

 ::MonkeyDevil:: There is no way I'd even attempt a family tree here, I just don't have the patience.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 22, 2009, 11:58:22 PM
So if you are correct that the source was LE I'm wondering how that's going to work out in court when Cobra explains to the judge that LE was present when this "illegal detaining" was taking place and that the LE who were there at the time the "alleged" incident occurred was then willingly giving this information out to the media?

(I need some motrin after today and that is a fact!)

I don't understand that either there was LEO there, why didn't they stop him BEFORE he did it.   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 22, 2009, 11:59:33 PM
Thanks Heart!

I just read the article and some of the comments over there.  Conspiracy theories abound!

I am not sure where I lie in regards to Cobra at the moment.

Do I think Cobra should have been arrested NO. The POS SO  shouldn't even be walking free right now, but he is, and ya can't just slap cuffs on people and drive them around questioning them for an hour, should he have these rights IMO NO, but unfortunately he does, and Cobra should have known better. As for the whole KP involvement in all of this I call BS, if KP had that kinda pull there I think we would have seen a lot more action on the part of LE and DCF involving the alleged claims of abuse.

I appreciate what Cobra is doing, and at first was very happy he was there .... at least someone is looking for Haleigh. I think Cobra got lost somewhere along the way, in each one of his recent radio shows and in the TJ Hart clips Cobra has mentioned making money, getting donations.

Simon and Pickles need to stop sharing whatever they are drinking or smoking with Cobra.

Maven, I fell asleep while you monkeys were working, and working hard..  When I finally woke up, of course you know the inner idiot child of mine is close at hand, and I got to thinking about poor HH being banned from the BNN, and I remembered the time I wasted over there earlier this afternoon..  After reading your post, the events of the visit are back fresh in mind..  I wasn't posting this afternoon, but reading their little commentaries which had more to do with each other and their tiny clic and a bit here and there about Cobra.. Suddently, they have this jump from one blog page to another, the link was left for those to follow, so I followed having no idea what in the world was going on.. As we get the the new blog page, which had been an active page about two weeks ago, was now the new posting page, and I find that the group is running from the LuLu, and the comments are flying about the dreaded LulU that this Ms Pickles had been warned of, and she went on that this LuLu was a poster setup by Kim and coming on the blogs and forums and disrupting the coversations and starting troubles, and apparently the luLu had shown up and the group needed to burrow out and jump to another blog page..  By that time, I am dizzy, and thinking what the f is going on here, people jumping around a website from blog to blog trying to out run a dreaded lulu.   So, I go to google and I start a search for this dreaded forum and blogging dreaded lulu..  Found the lulu on Topix, and it turns out to be this rather nutty individual who talks rather crazy and ask stupid questions, sort of thing you run into anywhere.. they drive you a bit nuts, but if you ignore it, like all bad pennies it heads out somewhere else to get the attention its needs to thrive on.. But, the thoughts of a bunch of grown people jumping from blog page to blog page running from the dreaded lulu, thinking they have lost it, just makes my inner child crazy.. because this woman had left the blog page address there to follow, and I'm thinking, how can you out run something your giving specific information on how to follow you.. She continuted to explain to the group that the dreaded lulu who was hot on their tail, was a mole that Kim had put on the web, searching forumns and blogs to cause disruption, that no one could say anything against the Crystal or the Kim without a tirade from the dreaded LULU...  I reached the point, with my eyes spread wide open wondering if I had stepped into the a cartoon world, and looking over my should to see if the dreaded lULU was behind me. Then I thought about my posting on there the day before. I had posted the info on the breathing machine missing from ron's that le was still looking for..  And a poster commented on my post. Well, this ms pickles pops up and say's oh don't pay attention to that posting, its taken from other postings and rumors..  I responded with Art harris direct Quote from the Radio interview..  ms Pickles came back with.. Oh, I guess I haven't spent the time reading Arts Blog.. I'm setting back looking at the computer screen and think.. wait a minute.. ms pickles was on the radio during the same interview with Art Harris when he made that comment..  That makes the idiot child in my head just roll around laughing its butt off..   Was she sleeping when Art was talking??  Then this afternoon.. Our HH returns and advises she has been Banned from HNN, because she suggest for Cobra's own well being might well leave the area for a time....  Good Golly and Duck feathers ready for the tar and feathering, they banned her......   So, my advise to the Monkeys,  keep up with Simon's Blogs and Radio show for updates and info.  But, be very careful before you post on their blog... you might get caught up in the race to escape the dreaded LULU, or banned for just being a smart person voicing your opinion...  Don't admit to being from SM, its referred to as Over Yonder..  Or you might be reading a post and find the whole group has jumped ship and left you setting there all alone, trying to escape the dreaded LULU.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 23, 2009, 12:00:08 AM
I was looking for the photo of misty's mom and dad that someone has been asking for.  When I couldn't find it I thought maybe they saw it in a video and not a photo so in checking through videos I found this one where the croslins speak out and who is right up under their buts....RC's dad.  Damage control maybe?

http://tr.truveo.com/croslin-family-speaks/id/1346972614   

Hi that was me looking for the pic of the croslin's thanks for trying!!! I can't get the video to work... my computer has issues since my son got a hold of it..
it just dawned on me that I have been following this case since day 1 and I don't recall ever even seeing RC's dad...  what is his first name/

Jack Lester cummings his mugshot is floating around here somewhere just type his name in the search box and see if it comes up.  He was there when geraldo so called attacked ron. :)

Ahhhh yes Jack that's it .... I knew it started with a J ... then confused myself with think of Crystal's dad.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 23, 2009, 12:09:17 AM
mlee,    Yes, I was there when the dreaded Lulu as they call her was there and she just did the same thing I did, speak up for Kim P and say the same thing about maybe Cobra should approch this in a different manner,   crazy people over there,   why run from her and jump from blog to blog, why not just bann her like they did me,   what did they forget how to do it already?....they really need help!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 23, 2009, 12:09:28 AM
Mlee I have been over there last night and today and noticed the same thing.  I don't usually post over there but today I did. I used my same screen name as here.  I am now caught up in chats with a certain bail bondsman.

http://www.bloggernews.net/120979#comment-1244442


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 23, 2009, 12:10:27 AM
Thanks Heart!

I just read the article and some of the comments over there.  Conspiracy theories abound!

I am not sure where I lie in regards to Cobra at the moment.

Do I think Cobra should have been arrested NO. The POS SO  shouldn't even be walking free right now, but he is, and ya can't just slap cuffs on people and drive them around questioning them for an hour, should he have these rights IMO NO, but unfortunately he does, and Cobra should have known better. As for the whole KP involvement in all of this I call BS, if KP had that kinda pull there I think we would have seen a lot more action on the part of LE and DCF involving the alleged claims of abuse.

I appreciate what Cobra is doing, and at first was very happy he was there .... at least someone is looking for Haleigh. I think Cobra got lost somewhere along the way, in each one of his recent radio shows and in the TJ Hart clips Cobra has mentioned making money, getting donations.

Simon and Pickles need to stop sharing whatever they are drinking or smoking with Cobra.

Maven,  I am surprised that it had not happened sooner.  I too appreciate Cobra trying to help find Haleigh.  However it has always been my opinion that the gun/s and camera/s were a bit much. And after reading the Palatka News article that Monkey ospainter posted, that just strengthens my opinion.

Is this all about finding Haleigh or what is really going on?

I have never seen anything like this.

My hope is that Haleigh is found safe and placed in a safe environment wherever that may be.

And I hope that Cobra will eventually return to his own family safe and sound.



I hope so too. I think there is much more going on 'behind the scenes' and I doubt any of it involves finding Haleigh. It makes me so sad, seems like everyone has failed her. I hope she is found soon and that someone is taking care of her. I'm not sure which home would be a better environment at this point either.

I hope Cobra returns home safely too. I think he started with good intentions, and I think they are still there, but they have kinda been overshadowed.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 23, 2009, 12:12:55 AM
The bail bondsman just said that GLP's mom contacted him about getting cobra out, but before he could give her an answer (which would have been no) someone else had already did it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 23, 2009, 12:20:54 AM
mlee:
 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyDevil::

Very nice summary!! (http://bestsmileys.com/clapping/2.gif) (http://bestsmileys.com/clapping/2.gif)



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 23, 2009, 12:23:25 AM
This particular bail bondsman say he/she was there when cobra cuffed snodgrass  and that H/S may be called as a witness...I guess that's why H/S would have declined to post cobra's bond.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 23, 2009, 12:30:54 AM
Mlee I have been over there last night and today and noticed the same thing.  I don't usually post over there but today I did. I used my same screen name as here.  I am now caught up in chats with a certain bail bondsman.

http://www.bloggernews.net/120979#comment-1244442

Would you mind if I come into the conversation over there..  Because, after finding info on June Snodgrass, whom we pulled up some time ago on arrest warrent's, she apparently is related to him, and we also found that there is a name connection with one of the families included in the cummings family.  It is very possible that  Snodgrass knew Haleigh.  Also, there is an element that has been brought out about a 15 minute delay on those ankle monitors, not always completely accurate tracking.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 23, 2009, 12:32:19 AM
Mlee I have been over there last night and today and noticed the same thing.  I don't usually post over there but today I did. I used my same screen name as here.  I am now caught up in chats with a certain bail bondsman.

http://www.bloggernews.net/120979#comment-1244442

I went and read the blog and I now officially have a migraine. I'm sure of it.

Sooooo....now we are going to find out about another local Palutka Bail Bondsman for some reason? Great.
(Maybe he/she hopes to be the one that bails out the person(s) responsible for Haleigh's disappearance?
I sure hope the heck so because I could give a rats rear end otherwise.

Them people probably think they struck oil with all the publicity they are getting.
The real highlight of all of it was watching JNGA take no prisoners! heh! Thank goodness for that... otherwise we might have had to try to find one of those bozos there to bond ya out girlie. (Oh heck no!)
Gah!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 23, 2009, 12:34:44 AM
This particular bail bondsman say he/she was there when cobra cuffed snodgrass  and that H/S may be called as a witness...I guess that's why H/S would have declined to post cobra's bond.
Ok so the bonds person does have some relavance to the situation.
(I was feeling a vein popping out on my forehead so thank for clearing that up. LOL)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 23, 2009, 12:35:45 AM
I don't mind mlee your very welcome


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 23, 2009, 12:39:09 AM
Mlee I have been over there last night and today and noticed the same thing.  I don't usually post over there but today I did. I used my same screen name as here.  I am now caught up in chats with a certain bail bondsman.

http://www.bloggernews.net/120979#comment-1244442

I went and read the blog and I now officially have a migraine. I'm sure of it.

Sooooo....now we are going to find out about another local Palutka Bail Bondsman for some reason? Great.
(Maybe he/she hopes to be the one that bails out the person(s) responsible for Haleigh's disappearance?
I sure hope the heck so because I could give a rats rear end otherwise.

Them people probably think they struck oil with all the publicity they are getting.
The real highlight of all of it was watching JNGA take no prisoners! heh! Thank goodness for that... otherwise we might have had to try to find one of those bozos there to bond ya out girlie. (Oh heck no!)
Gah!!!!

Just Don't call Chucks!!   ::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 23, 2009, 12:44:08 AM
He skipped my question about weather or not snodgrass could drop the charges if he wants.  Do any of you monkeys know?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 23, 2009, 12:48:03 AM
Mlee I have been over there last night and today and noticed the same thing.  I don't usually post over there but today I did. I used my same screen name as here.  I am now caught up in chats with a certain bail bondsman.

http://www.bloggernews.net/120979#comment-1244442

I went and read the blog and I now officially have a migraine. I'm sure of it.

Sooooo....now we are going to find out about another local Palutka Bail Bondsman for some reason? Great.
(Maybe he/she hopes to be the one that bails out the person(s) responsible for Haleigh's disappearance?
I sure hope the heck so because I could give a rats rear end otherwise.

Them people probably think they struck oil with all the publicity they are getting.
The real highlight of all of it was watching JNGA take no prisoners! heh! Thank goodness for that... otherwise we might have had to try to find one of those bozos there to bond ya out girlie. (Oh heck no!)
Gah!!!!

Just Don't call Chucks!!   ::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyLaugh::
LOLOL! NO WAY! Chuck is out of luck and he can go buck a duck! (I was in the mood to make a ryhme.)
On a more serious note I am 100% against the abusing of animals.
No duck bucking please.

I wonder what this other bonds person has to say in regards to what happened with Cobra being arrested and what not?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 23, 2009, 12:48:24 AM
This particular bail bondsman say he/she was there when cobra cuffed snodgrass  and that H/S may be called as a witness...I guess that's why H/S would have declined to post cobra's bond.
Ok so the bonds person does have some relavance to the situation.
(I was feeling a vein popping out on my forehead so thank for clearing that up. LOL)

I don't know who the heck that person is. I did read earlier that A-1 was supposed to post his bond, guess I'll go look at the Sunbiz listings.

JNGA!!  ::MonkeyDance:: Great job over there!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 23, 2009, 12:51:25 AM
Marty Hubbard sure got a long rap sheet.. DVR's, Carrying a concealed weapon , driving while license suspened, aggrevated stalking, drivng DUI property damage.
disorderly toxication. I wonder why LE was interesting in checking him out.. ::MonkeyTongue::

Where he lives.....

http://www.mapquest.com/mq/9-0RSG9hf9tGGTn497BQvW

Defendant
HUBBARD, MARTY LEE 
Alias


Date # Docket Description
2001-02-12 2 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND 

2001-02-12 2 $1504.00 UNSECURED BOND SET 

2001-02-12 2 NO CONTACT WITH ALLEGED VICTIM 

2001-02-12 3 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY 

2001-02-12 4 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING 

2001-02-12 5 NOTICE OF HEARING (3-15-2001) GIVEN AT JAIL 

2001-03-15 6 ARRAIGNMENT MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, ADJUGDED SOLVENT, 

2001-03-15 6 COURT ENTERED PLEA OF NOT GUILTY AND P D APPOINTED 

2001-03-15 6 (SHARON FELICIANO), SET FOR PRETRIAL 04/04/01 

2001-03-15 7 AFFIDAVIT 

2001-03-15 7 ORDER OF INDIGENCY AND ORDER AS TO THE PUBLIC DEFENDER 

2001-03-15 7 $40.00 APPLICATION FEE IMPOSED 

2001-03-15 8 PRE-TRIAL ORDER (04/04/01) 

2001-04-04 9 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY SHARON FELICIANO 

2001-04-04 9 STATE AND DEFENSE ANNOUNCED READY FOR TRIAL 

2001-04-04 9 CASE SET FOR NON-JURY TRIAL 04/30/2001 

2001-04-04 10 WAIVER OF JURY TRIAL 

2001-04-04 11 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (04-30-2001) 

2001-04-10 12 SUBPOENA ISSUED TO: D/S D HAYES, PCSO 

2001-04-10 13 SUBPOENA ISSUED TO: TRACY PHILLIPS 

2001-04-17 14 SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED: TRACY PHILLIPS 

2001-04-19 15 INFORMATION BATTERY (DVR) 

2001-04-24 16 SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED: D/S D HAYES, PCSO 

2001-04-30 17 TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES ATT BY SHARON FELICIANO 

2001-04-30 17 ASST PD FOR NON JURY TRIAL - W-DREW FORMER PLEA - ENT 

2001-04-30 17 PLEA OF NOLO CONTENDERE TO BATTERY - DVR - DEFT SWORN 

2001-04-30 17 PLEA ACCEPTED, ADJUDGED GUILTY 

2001-04-30 17 PROB HRDS 1 YEAR 

2001-04-30 17 $156.50 FINE AND COST SUSPENDED 

2001-04-30 17 $ 40.00 PD APPLICATION FEE SUSPENDED 

2001-04-30 17 COMPLETE BATTERERS INTERVENTION PROGRAM 

2001-04-30 17 NO CONTACT WITH VICTIM FOR ONE YEAR UNSUPERVISED 

2001-04-30 18 ORDER OF PROBATION 

2001-11-05 19 AFFIDAVIT: VIOLATION OF PROBATION 

2001-11-07 20 VOP NOTICE ISSUED BY SHERIFF'S SERVICE (11/27/2001) 

2001-11-27 21 VOP ARRAIGNMENT MINUTES: DEFT NOT PRESENT IN COURT 

2001-11-27 21 CAPIAS ISSUED - $1504.00 

2001-11-29 22 NOTICE RETURNED UNEXECUTED 

2002-04-25 23 REARREST REPORT - CAPIAS - FTA AT VOP ARRAIGNMENT 

2002-04-26 24 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING 

2002-04-26 24 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY 

2002-04-26 24 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND 

2002-04-26 24 $1504.00 SECURED BOND SET 

2002-04-26 25 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY 

2002-04-26 26 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING 

2002-04-26 27 CAPIAS RETURNED EXECUTED 

2002-04-29 28 $1504.00 CHUCK'S BAIL BOND-#342878 (04/26/2002)  2002-04-29 28 CONTINENTAL HERITAGE INSURANCE COMPANY 

2002-04-30 29 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (05-28-2002) 

2002-05-28 30 VOP ARRAIGNMENT MINUTES: DEFT PRES, P D REAPPOINTED 

2002-05-28 30 (DEBORAH STAFFORD) ARR ENT PLEA OF NOT GUILTY TO VOP 

2002-05-28 30 VIOLATION HEARING SET 06/14/2002 

2002-05-28 31 AFFIDAVIT 

2002-05-28 31 ORDER OF INDIGENCY AND ORDER AS TO THE PUBLIC DEFENDER 

2002-05-28 31 $40.00 APPLICATION FEE IMPOSED 

2002-05-28 32 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (06/14/2002) 

2002-06-04 33 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (06/14/2002) 

2002-06-14 34 VOP HEARING MIN: DEFT PRES ATT BY DEBORAH STAFFORD 

2002-06-14 34 W-DREW FORMER PLEA - ENT PLEA OF NOLO CONTENDERE TO VOP 

2002-06-14 34 PLEA ACCEPTED, PROBATION TERMINATED UNSUCCESSFUL 

2002-06-14 34 $40.00 PD APPLICATION FEE SUSPENDED 

2002-06-14 35 WRITTEN PLEA OF GUILTY OR NOLO CONTENDERE TO 

2002-06-14 35 CRIMINAL CHARGES IN COUNTY COURT 

Everybody loves Chuckie....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 23, 2009, 12:52:44 AM
Mlee I have been over there last night and today and noticed the same thing.  I don't usually post over there but today I did. I used my same screen name as here.  I am now caught up in chats with a certain bail bondsman.

http://www.bloggernews.net/120979#comment-1244442

Would you mind if I come into the conversation over there..  Because, after finding info on June Snodgrass, whom we pulled up some time ago on arrest warrent's, she apparently is related to him, and we also found that there is a name connection with one of the families included in the cummings family.  It is very possible that  Snodgrass knew Haleigh.  Also, there is an element that has been brought out about a 15 minute delay on those ankle monitors, not always completely accurate tracking.

IA mlee. The fifteen minute delay does bother me a lot can be done in fifteen minutes, that doesn't even take into account the fact that someone may have brought Haleigh to him or any other perv in the area. Do SO have like a network?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 23, 2009, 12:54:05 AM
He skipped my question about weather or not snodgrass could drop the charges if he wants.  Do any of you monkeys know?

I really have no idea, I would think that he could, but if it was witnessed by LE maybe not.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 23, 2009, 12:54:28 AM
Marty Hubbard sure got a long rap sheet.. DVR's, Carrying a concealed weapon , driving while license suspened, aggrevated stalking, drivng DUI property damage.
disorderly toxication. I wonder why LE was interesting in checking him out.. ::MonkeyTongue::

Where he lives.....

http://www.mapquest.com/mq/9-0RSG9hf9tGGTn497BQvW

Defendant
HUBBARD, MARTY LEE 
Alias


Date # Docket Description
2001-02-12 2 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND 

2001-02-12 2 $1504.00 UNSECURED BOND SET 

2001-02-12 2 NO CONTACT WITH ALLEGED VICTIM 

2001-02-12 3 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY 

2001-02-12 4 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING 

2001-02-12 5 NOTICE OF HEARING (3-15-2001) GIVEN AT JAIL 

2001-03-15 6 ARRAIGNMENT MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, ADJUGDED SOLVENT, 

2001-03-15 6 COURT ENTERED PLEA OF NOT GUILTY AND P D APPOINTED 

2001-03-15 6 (SHARON FELICIANO), SET FOR PRETRIAL 04/04/01 

2001-03-15 7 AFFIDAVIT 

2001-03-15 7 ORDER OF INDIGENCY AND ORDER AS TO THE PUBLIC DEFENDER 

2001-03-15 7 $40.00 APPLICATION FEE IMPOSED 

2001-03-15 8 PRE-TRIAL ORDER (04/04/01) 

2001-04-04 9 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY SHARON FELICIANO 

2001-04-04 9 STATE AND DEFENSE ANNOUNCED READY FOR TRIAL 

2001-04-04 9 CASE SET FOR NON-JURY TRIAL 04/30/2001 

2001-04-04 10 WAIVER OF JURY TRIAL 

2001-04-04 11 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (04-30-2001) 

2001-04-10 12 SUBPOENA ISSUED TO: D/S D HAYES, PCSO 

2001-04-10 13 SUBPOENA ISSUED TO: TRACY PHILLIPS 

2001-04-17 14 SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED: TRACY PHILLIPS 

2001-04-19 15 INFORMATION BATTERY (DVR) 

2001-04-24 16 SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED: D/S D HAYES, PCSO 

2001-04-30 17 TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES ATT BY SHARON FELICIANO 

2001-04-30 17 ASST PD FOR NON JURY TRIAL - W-DREW FORMER PLEA - ENT 

2001-04-30 17 PLEA OF NOLO CONTENDERE TO BATTERY - DVR - DEFT SWORN 

2001-04-30 17 PLEA ACCEPTED, ADJUDGED GUILTY 

2001-04-30 17 PROB HRDS 1 YEAR 

2001-04-30 17 $156.50 FINE AND COST SUSPENDED 

2001-04-30 17 $ 40.00 PD APPLICATION FEE SUSPENDED 

2001-04-30 17 COMPLETE BATTERERS INTERVENTION PROGRAM 

2001-04-30 17 NO CONTACT WITH VICTIM FOR ONE YEAR UNSUPERVISED 

2001-04-30 18 ORDER OF PROBATION 

2001-11-05 19 AFFIDAVIT: VIOLATION OF PROBATION 

2001-11-07 20 VOP NOTICE ISSUED BY SHERIFF'S SERVICE (11/27/2001) 

2001-11-27 21 VOP ARRAIGNMENT MINUTES: DEFT NOT PRESENT IN COURT 

2001-11-27 21 CAPIAS ISSUED - $1504.00 

2001-11-29 22 NOTICE RETURNED UNEXECUTED 

2002-04-25 23 REARREST REPORT - CAPIAS - FTA AT VOP ARRAIGNMENT 

2002-04-26 24 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING 

2002-04-26 24 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY 

2002-04-26 24 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND 

2002-04-26 24 $1504.00 SECURED BOND SET 

2002-04-26 25 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY 

2002-04-26 26 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING 

2002-04-26 27 CAPIAS RETURNED EXECUTED 

2002-04-29 28 $1504.00 CHUCK'S BAIL BOND-#342878 (04/26/2002)  2002-04-29 28 CONTINENTAL HERITAGE INSURANCE COMPANY 

2002-04-30 29 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (05-28-2002) 

2002-05-28 30 VOP ARRAIGNMENT MINUTES: DEFT PRES, P D REAPPOINTED 

2002-05-28 30 (DEBORAH STAFFORD) ARR ENT PLEA OF NOT GUILTY TO VOP 

2002-05-28 30 VIOLATION HEARING SET 06/14/2002 

2002-05-28 31 AFFIDAVIT 

2002-05-28 31 ORDER OF INDIGENCY AND ORDER AS TO THE PUBLIC DEFENDER 

2002-05-28 31 $40.00 APPLICATION FEE IMPOSED 

2002-05-28 32 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (06/14/2002) 

2002-06-04 33 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (06/14/2002) 

2002-06-14 34 VOP HEARING MIN: DEFT PRES ATT BY DEBORAH STAFFORD 

2002-06-14 34 W-DREW FORMER PLEA - ENT PLEA OF NOLO CONTENDERE TO VOP 

2002-06-14 34 PLEA ACCEPTED, PROBATION TERMINATED UNSUCCESSFUL 

2002-06-14 34 $40.00 PD APPLICATION FEE SUSPENDED 

2002-06-14 35 WRITTEN PLEA OF GUILTY OR NOLO CONTENDERE TO 

2002-06-14 35 CRIMINAL CHARGES IN COUNTY COURT 

Everybody loves Chuckie....


 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 23, 2009, 12:55:43 AM
I looked him up the other day JG, but my computer was acting funky I was only able to pull up one of his MANY records, thanks for posting.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 23, 2009, 12:56:18 AM
Thanks JG


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 23, 2009, 01:00:50 AM
Oh Mlee is in the house! You go Mlee ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 23, 2009, 01:05:43 AM
Mlee, can I have your e-mail address, I have a letter that Kim P. sent me today and I think you would enjoy reading it!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 23, 2009, 01:06:55 AM
This particular bail bondsman say he/she was there when cobra cuffed snodgrass  and that H/S may be called as a witness...I guess that's why H/S would have declined to post cobra's bond.
Ok so the bonds person does have some relavance to the situation.
(I was feeling a vein popping out on my forehead so thank for clearing that up. LOL)

I don't know who the heck that person is. I did read earlier that A-1 was supposed to post his bond, guess I'll go look at the Sunbiz listings.

JNGA!!  ::MonkeyDance:: Great job over there!
Maven, could you get your e-mail address to me, I have something for you to read that I need to send to you!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 23, 2009, 01:07:44 AM
Mlee, can I have your e-mail address, I have a letter that Kim P. sent me today and I think you would enjoy reading it!

no fair HH ....hhhhffftttttt!    ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 23, 2009, 01:08:48 AM
This particular bail bondsman say he/she was there when cobra cuffed snodgrass  and that H/S may be called as a witness...I guess that's why H/S would have declined to post cobra's bond.
Ok so the bonds person does have some relavance to the situation.
(I was feeling a vein popping out on my forehead so thank for clearing that up. LOL)

I don't know who the heck that person is. I did read earlier that A-1 was supposed to post his bond, guess I'll go look at the Sunbiz listings.

JNGA!!  ::MonkeyDance:: Great job over there!
Maven, could you get your e-mail address to me, I have something for you to read that I need to send to you!

I responded too quick!! LOL sorry! I don't know how to get it to you without posting it here.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: rosebud on May 23, 2009, 01:09:53 AM
Mlee,thank you for saying everything I have been wanting to say. There is something I have wanted to say but I try to read unless I have something to offer. I think it was on Mother's day and Jan,Art,Cobra, Pickles all the ones that come on for the broadcast was on. Pickles was barely able to follow with what everyone was saying. At the time I thought, this woman is either sleeping or has been celebrating Mother's Day in a big way. Now, I ask how disrespestful is that? I never write over there,but, I ocassionally go to see what they have to say. It seems as though they have taken a nose dive. This Lulu person really hit a nerve for them What's the big deal for them to RUN from them? Just have some of u kind monkeys have gone there and gottten "banned". I see nowhere, where that site is about Haleigh.Which is so sad. As for Art not going to be there this Sunday I think that is a big red flag. Art works on fact and not BS. I know his site is a bit crazy as well,but,this is just unacceptable of what's going on with Pickles. Sorry but I only call someone Ms.Mrs,Mr. that I have respect for. I see no way that she has proven to have any respect. I think they don't like the idea that the Monkeys are smart people that truly love Haleigh.
Sorry, my monkey friends that I made this so long. I could go on and on b/c I'am so angry with all this BS. Not too, mention the fact that Cobra went to jail for trying to help. Which I know that's another story in itself.
O.K. I'll shut up for now. Thanks for letting me vent.
I wrote this so quickly, I may have a few errors, please forgive.
Pickles, if u reading this, get back to Haleigh. The crown belongs to her not you.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 23, 2009, 01:12:35 AM
Mlee,thank you for saying everything I have been wanting to say. There is something I have wanted to say but I try to read unless I have something to offer. I think it was on Mother's day and Jan,Art,Cobra, Pickles all the ones that come on for the broadcast was on. Pickles was barely able to follow with what everyone was saying. At the time I thought, this woman is either sleeping or has been celebrating Mother's Day in a big way. Now, I ask how disrespestful is that? I never write over there,but, I ocassionally go to see what they have to say. It seems as though they have taken a nose dive. This Lulu person really hit a nerve for them What's the big deal for them to RUN from them? Just have some of u kind monkeys have gone there and gottten "banned". I see nowhere, where that site is about Haleigh.Which is so sad. As for Art not going to be there this Sunday I think that is a big red flag. Art works on fact and not BS. I know his site is a bit crazy as well,but,this is just unacceptable of what's going on with Pickles. Sorry but I only call someone Ms.Mrs,Mr. that I have respect for. I see no way that she has proven to have any respect. I think they don't like the idea that the Monkeys are smart people that truly love Haleigh.
Sorry, my monkey friends that I made this so long. I could go on and on b/c I'am so angry with all this BS. Not too, mention the fact that Cobra went to jail for trying to help. Which I know that's another story in itself.
O.K. I'll shut up for now. Thanks for letting me vent.
I wrote this so quickly, I may have a few errors, please forgive.
Pickles, if u reading this, get back to Haleigh. The crown belongs to her not you.
I agree,    I only wanted to tell them something I was told and they banned me really fast.......I never went there before and now I wont be again, but yea pickles sounded drunk or something on that radio cut.....I told someone on here the same thing!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 23, 2009, 01:16:55 AM
I have been wondering how old pickles is because most of the time she acts like a child. seriously


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 23, 2009, 01:17:33 AM
Oh Mlee is in the house! You go Mlee ::MonkeyDance::

Did you notice how fast that man jumped ship.... wow he was off to bed..  thats okay.. we can be there to greet him in the morning..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 23, 2009, 01:19:56 AM
Mlee,thank you for saying everything I have been wanting to say. There is something I have wanted to say but I try to read unless I have something to offer. I think it was on Mother's day and Jan,Art,Cobra, Pickles all the ones that come on for the broadcast was on. Pickles was barely able to follow with what everyone was saying. At the time I thought, this woman is either sleeping or has been celebrating Mother's Day in a big way. Now, I ask how disrespestful is that? I never write over there,but, I ocassionally go to see what they have to say. It seems as though they have taken a nose dive. This Lulu person really hit a nerve for them What's the big deal for them to RUN from them? Just have some of u kind monkeys have gone there and gottten "banned". I see nowhere, where that site is about Haleigh.Which is so sad. As for Art not going to be there this Sunday I think that is a big red flag. Art works on fact and not BS. I know his site is a bit crazy as well,but,this is just unacceptable of what's going on with Pickles. Sorry but I only call someone Ms.Mrs,Mr. that I have respect for. I see no way that she has proven to have any respect. I think they don't like the idea that the Monkeys are smart people that truly love Haleigh.
Sorry, my monkey friends that I made this so long. I could go on and on b/c I'am so angry with all this BS. Not too, mention the fact that Cobra went to jail for trying to help. Which I know that's another story in itself.
O.K. I'll shut up for now. Thanks for letting me vent.
I wrote this so quickly, I may have a few errors, please forgive.
Pickles, if u reading this, get back to Haleigh. The crown belongs to her not you.
I agree,    I only wanted to tell them something I was told and they banned me really fast.......I never went there before and now I wont be again, but yea pickles sounded drunk or something on that radio cut.....I told someone on here the same thing!

Pickles was definitely under the influence! I was reading some of Lulu's comments last night, and it got crazy, I wanted to post soooo bad but refrained. They were saying she worked for KP, she was KP, or that she's the one that stole Haleigh, it was crazy!!! I have noticed anyone not in agreement over there or anyone who comes there with anything other than BS is attacked, that's why I didn't post. Hard to believe it is adults behind those computer screens!

OT Which reminds me of this older guy, I used to work with who recently passed, he used to say with this really funny way when he heard something crazy all the while shaking his head ......... haaaaaaawd ta believe. Guess ya had to be there. May he RIP  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 23, 2009, 01:25:06 AM
He skipped my question about weather or not snodgrass could drop the charges if he wants.  Do any of you monkeys know?

Okay, this is a felony charge not a minor...  The one that I think is the active pusher on this is that Detective..  He I would put money on, is the one that contacted the Insurance Company, and that Bonding Company and on his own agenda had this cancelled.  This is what I think they are doing.. the news report about this messing with the states case against Snodgrass.  1. they have a poor case. 2. I read they are looking into charging the father as an accomplice. 3. the da is working a plea agreement with snodgrass to testify against the father.

Which in my mind is big B.... S...., because even if snodgrass is convicted it will be to a lower charge and he will be back on the street in a short time.. He will never face a long term prison sentence.   That is what this is about...  LE didn't pick him up themselves, because of this.  Which makes him being treated with kid gloves....  The woman he lives with, I bet you there are children in that house...  A predator does not live with women who do not have children.. the women are stupid and think they are the reason the predator is there.. big dream, they are there for the children...... ghezzzzzz crazy women..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 23, 2009, 01:28:18 AM
Well we did get a small bit of info out of him/her, and I must say he/she  handled there self well.    ::MonkeyWink::  this person first stated that snodgrass was cleared because of the GPS on him, but after I called him/her on it they went on to say LE has only ruled out the possiblity that he was in the area at the time, which in my opinion doesn't rule him out as a suspect.  I think this person is someone close to DSnod though.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 23, 2009, 01:29:39 AM
Oh Mlee is in the house! You go Mlee ::MonkeyDance::

Did you notice how fast that man jumped ship.... wow he was off to bed..  thats okay.. we can be there to greet him in the morning..
Man your up late,  but dont go to bed yet, I wanted to send you something I got from kim P. today.......do I have your e-mail adrress?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 23, 2009, 01:31:29 AM
I agree Mlee


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 23, 2009, 01:33:14 AM
Oh Mlee is in the house! You go Mlee ::MonkeyDance::

Did you notice how fast that man jumped ship.... wow he was off to bed..  thats okay.. we can be there to greet him in the morning..
Man your up late,  but dont go to bed yet, I wanted to send you something I got from kim P. today.......do I have your e-mail adrress?

Yes, you do.. mareleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 23, 2009, 01:41:11 AM
I agree Mlee

I am really teed off at the LE..  And the aspects of Kim wanting Cobra out of town?? ... There is a cover going and that is not acceptable.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 23, 2009, 01:43:46 AM
I agree Mlee

I am really teed off at the LE..  And the aspects of Kim wanting Cobra out of town?? ... There is a cover going and that is not acceptable.
just sent you something, its a letter I recieved from Kim P. today thought you  might wanna read it!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 23, 2009, 01:44:20 AM
Oh Mlee is in the house! You go Mlee ::MonkeyDance::

Did you notice how fast that man jumped ship.... wow he was off to bed..  thats okay.. we can be there to greet him in the morning..

LOL yes I did ..... good questions JNGA!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 23, 2009, 01:46:18 AM
Oh Mlee is in the house! You go Mlee ::MonkeyDance::

Did you notice how fast that man jumped ship.... wow he was off to bed..  thats okay.. we can be there to greet him in the morning..
Man your up late,  but dont go to bed yet, I wanted to send you something I got from kim P. today.......do I have your e-mail adrress?

Thank you .. I know contact with Kim helps encourage you to continue..  Lets hope there is a major break soon.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 23, 2009, 01:46:37 AM
I agree Mlee

I am really teed off at the LE..  And the aspects of Kim wanting Cobra out of town?? ... There is a cover going and that is not acceptable.

IA mlee!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: ospainter on May 23, 2009, 01:55:09 AM
So if you are correct that the source was LE I'm wondering how that's going to work out in court when Cobra explains to the judge that LE was present when this "illegal detaining" was taking place and that the LE who were there at the time the "alleged" incident occurred was then willingly giving this information out to the media?

(I need some motrin after today and that is a fact!)

It looks like the reporter got a copy of the incident report, which anyone can do for $10.00 at the PCSO from what I have been told. I have never tried to get one though.

That is how the article reads to me. The reporter was quoting the investigating officer from his report.

I think we will learn soon enough exactly the who, what, where, when etc regarding this.

I know nothing more about the actual incident, the day it happened, then what I read in the article.

I was lead to believe that the article was incorrect, then last month another reporter at Palatka news mentioned it so I knew it was true.

I just want the truth, whatever it is and whoever it involves. Let the chips fall as they say.

OS







Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: ospainter on May 23, 2009, 02:03:18 AM

I found this JVM transcript from March 3, 2009
Not sure if it is what your looking for.
http://tr.truveo.com/croslin-family-speaks/id/1346972614

In it it mentions a cummings neighbor and police got a tip about his doorbell (which he says he doesn't have), His name is Marty Hubbard and on Art's article about snodgrass wanting to donate to the haleigh bug it said that when snodgrass was confronted about being a SO he called out to his friend MARTY to call the police.
I wonder if the two marty's could be one in the same???

Also A door bell that rings like a grandfather clock...Could it be a ringtone for a cell phone??

Hi JNGA,

It was the 6 to 7 hr HLN's show with Mike Galano, but thanks so much for looking.

I think iirc, a tip was called in about a grandfather clock sound, it was later determined that the person that posted the utube where you could hear the grandfather clock, actually came from the person's clock that posted the utube. does that make sense? I hope I have that right. My memory is not very good.

I don't know about the Marty's..sorry.

OS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: ospainter on May 23, 2009, 02:06:04 AM


os, you may want to look here:  http://www.blinkx.com/videos/Haleigh+Cummings

Heart

Thank you I will look there.

OS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 23, 2009, 02:10:23 AM
Well its time for this ole monkey to head upstairs. 

One thought before I go..  Cobra while within Satsuma, has virtually kept the pot stirred..  He has helped keep the media attention, what little is still left to keep the Spirit of Finding Little Haleigh.

He truly is one of Haleigh's Knights in Shinning Armor..

Once Cobra is gone from Putnam County,  and they have finally ran the media away.. The news of Haleigh gone missing will stop.  You will hear about her occasionally, but not actively.. 

Childen's services, who are overdue in their normal deadline in the report of their investigation and determination.  If they recommend that Little Ron stays with big ron.... there you go...  If they recommend that Little Ron goes to Crystal?
Will they remain in Baker County? Will they relocate?

If the recommendation for Little Ron to say with big ron, then the court will make the choice, and the battle will be long and hard. and if the court chooses the same, the battle will be long and hard.

Kim will eventually, return to her home and family...

The case will be listed as totally COLD..  Nothing will be done in the Search for Haleigh, as far as LE is concerned.

Will Haleigh ever be found?  I certainly hope that Haleigh is out there somewhere, healthy, safe and loved....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 23, 2009, 02:18:29 AM
I agree mlee, Cobra despite his faults has kept the case in the media, however small.

I waswondering .... were they all told to keep quiet? Ron and Misty have since Ron got his 'dream team'   ::MonkeyRoll:: so I imagine it was they who told the Cummings to ST*U.  KP hasn't been on any of the shows either, mind you NG I can understand her not wanting to go there, but she's been very quiet. Are the shows just not inviting her? or Has LE asked them to zip it?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 23, 2009, 02:22:02 AM
Jerome place... ::MonkeyTongue::

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/JeromesPlace.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mymonkey on May 23, 2009, 03:48:24 AM
Jerome place... ::MonkeyTongue::

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/JeromesPlace.jpg)


Is that a police  car in front of his house?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 23, 2009, 05:23:40 AM
Mlee,thank you for saying everything I have been wanting to say. There is something I have wanted to say but I try to read unless I have something to offer. I think it was on Mother's day and Jan,Art,Cobra, Pickles all the ones that come on for the broadcast was on. Pickles was barely able to follow with what everyone was saying. At the time I thought, this woman is either sleeping or has been celebrating Mother's Day in a big way. Now, I ask how disrespestful is that? I never write over there,but, I ocassionally go to see what they have to say. It seems as though they have taken a nose dive. This Lulu person really hit a nerve for them What's the big deal for them to RUN from them? Just have some of u kind monkeys have gone there and gottten "banned". I see nowhere, where that site is about Haleigh.Which is so sad. As for Art not going to be there this Sunday I think that is a big red flag. Art works on fact and not BS. I know his site is a bit crazy as well,but,this is just unacceptable of what's going on with Pickles. Sorry but I only call someone Ms.Mrs,Mr. that I have respect for. I see no way that she has proven to have any respect. I think they don't like the idea that the Monkeys are smart people that truly love Haleigh.
Sorry, my monkey friends that I made this so long. I could go on and on b/c I'am so angry with all this BS. Not too, mention the fact that Cobra went to jail for trying to help. Which I know that's another story in itself.
O.K. I'll shut up for now. Thanks for letting me vent.
I wrote this so quickly, I may have a few errors, please forgive.
Pickles, if u reading this, get back to Haleigh. The crown belongs to her not you.

Oh Rosebud....I didn't want to tell anyone, but since HH confessed...I too have been banned.  I try to pull up all the links you guys post, but all I get is a white screen.  Last Sunday I suggested to "pickles" that I would think since a beautiful little girl is missing, she might want to pay attention during her next radio show and I did, err, well...Ok, I told her she sounded like an idiot AND drunk and she was being disrespectful to a whole lot of people that were seriously concerned about Haleigh. And that if she HAD to be on Sundays show, could she please stop giggling, because this is a VERY SERIOUS MATTER.  And I told her it wasn't a freaking joke. 

So yeah.  I'm banned too.  oh well.   ::MonkeyCool::

Now.  The reason I say Snodgrass knows Haleigh is because he lived in the vicinity.  Haven't we heard Misty and the kids walked around some?  Betcha as a POS, he knows all the little kids in town.  And if it's anywhere near Green Lane...  well, we for the most part knows who lives on our streets, don't we??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 23, 2009, 08:27:32 AM
Here is an article that appeared in the Palatka News. I joined to get the online copy.

March 25, 2009

BY KRISTIN CHAMBERS
Palatka Daily News
SATSUMA – A bounty hunter has been accused of illegally detaining a Putnam County man free on bail on a sex

----------------------snip---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

2cents.

I haven't found Eric Belcher, but...I found this nice search...http://usadailyobits.com/florida-obituaries-21509/

Seahorse


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: little lulu on May 23, 2009, 08:50:52 AM
New article:

http://www.artharris.com/category/art-harris-reports/

The hairs on my neck are raised this morning...I keep seeing the posts here about the 'Lulu Person'  whomever this is...is not me,  I can barely keep up with what is going on in here. 





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 23, 2009, 09:24:54 AM
lulu is from simon barretts blog.  When I was watching people chat back and forth via comments I saw that someone was lulu and that all of a sudden someone else started using her name, so no one over there likes that person for that fact and the fact that they don't like the comments that person posts and find her annoying.  But like hh said why not simply ban her? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 23, 2009, 09:36:44 AM
Here is an article that appeared in the Palatka News. I joined to get the online copy.

March 25, 2009

BY KRISTIN CHAMBERS
Palatka Daily News
SATSUMA – A bounty hunter has been accused of illegally detaining a Putnam County man free on bail on a sex

----------------------snip---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

2cents.

I haven't found Eric Belcher, but...I found this nice search...http://usadailyobits.com/florida-obituaries-21509/

Seahorse

Hello 2 cents and buy Monkeys,


Have you guys checked Cemeteries?:)  I have called cemeteries and usually, very helpful people.

What is great about cemeteries, sometimes, you will find an  obit on line, or the person(interment),-if they
maintain a web-site. I have called different cemeteries in my past search, they call sell information "genealogy" for the internet.

I would keep in mind historical societies, I have called Historical Societies (in another state) and recieved great information on cemeteries, etc. Jacksonville, Library, main branch (a guess) look them up on line, see if they offer genealogy or OBITS.

Searches, keep it mind, they may not be fully loaded. IMO

http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genealogyInfo.php?locIndex=8908


Florida divorce index on ancestry.com, it may not be fully loaded, IMO

http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=8837&offerid=0%3a7858%3a0


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 23, 2009, 09:46:45 AM
New article:

http://www.artharris.com/category/art-harris-reports/

The hairs on my neck are raised this morning...I keep seeing the posts here about the 'Lulu Person'  whomever this is...is not me,  I can barely keep up with what is going on in here. 





Sug, we know that.. don't worry.. the Lulu person I found on Topix..  if you get a chance google  lulu and topix together and you will find this person.. they talk real crazy, never become part of a conversation.. it was just their choice of names.  My point was how crazy those people were acting, racing around the board, just to avoid who ever lulu was.  Please don't take this personal, it has nothing to do with you or your username..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 23, 2009, 09:52:26 AM
Here is an article that appeared in the Palatka News. I joined to get the online copy.

March 25, 2009

BY KRISTIN CHAMBERS
Palatka Daily News
SATSUMA – A bounty hunter has been accused of illegally detaining a Putnam County man free on bail on a sex

----------------------snip---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

2cents.

I haven't found Eric Belcher, but...I found this nice search...http://usadailyobits.com/florida-obituaries-21509/

Seahorse

Hello 2 cents and buy Monkeys,


Have you guys checked Cemeteries?:)  I have called cemeteries and usually, very helpful people.

What is great about cemeteries, sometimes, you will find an  obit on line, or the person(interment),-if they
maintain a web-site. I have called different cemeteries in my past search, they call sell information "genealogy" for the internet.

I would keep in mind historical societies, I have called Historical Societies (in another state) and recieved great information on cemeteries, etc. Jacksonville, Library, main branch (a guess) look them up on line, see if they offer genealogy or OBITS.

Searches, keep it mind, they may not be fully loaded. IMO

http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genealogyInfo.php?locIndex=8908


Florida divorce index on ancestry.com, it may not be fully loaded, IMO

http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=8837&offerid=0%3a7858%3a0


Many of the States have archived vaults.. such as georgia.. that you can pull up marriages, death certificates etc. I will pull the address's for the vaults..  Louisiana has a library that has archive storage,  Miss - No, Ala - No.. SC big archive search file.. How much to current date we would find in the files, I don't know..  Now SC has Wills..  Florida, I have to do a bit of research to see if they have a vault.. NC, big vault..  Now. Byu has a huge site that we can draw from, also Familysearch, I received an email the other day that they had extended their search program.. Remember Familysearch, and Ancestry has been taken over by BYU, and they have just really started a dna volunteer program called Sorenson's, obtaining both dna and family genealogy.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 23, 2009, 09:53:48 AM
New article:

http://www.artharris.com/category/art-harris-reports/

The hairs on my neck are raised this morning...I keep seeing the posts here about the 'Lulu Person'  whomever this is...is not me,  I can barely keep up with what is going on in here. 




I can barely keep up also  ::MonkeyConfused::  I believe you are not the LULU PERSON  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 23, 2009, 10:09:59 AM
Mlee,thank you for saying everything I have been wanting to say. There is something I have wanted to say but I try to read unless I have something to offer. I think it was on Mother's day and Jan,Art,Cobra, Pickles all the ones that come on for the broadcast was on. Pickles was barely able to follow with what everyone was saying. At the time I thought, this woman is either sleeping or has been celebrating Mother's Day in a big way. Now, I ask how disrespestful is that? I never write over there,but, I ocassionally go to see what they have to say. It seems as though they have taken a nose dive. This Lulu person really hit a nerve for them What's the big deal for them to RUN from them? Just have some of u kind monkeys have gone there and gottten "banned". I see nowhere, where that site is about Haleigh.Which is so sad. As for Art not going to be there this Sunday I think that is a big red flag. Art works on fact and not BS. I know his site is a bit crazy as well,but,this is just unacceptable of what's going on with Pickles. Sorry but I only call someone Ms.Mrs,Mr. that I have respect for. I see no way that she has proven to have any respect. I think they don't like the idea that the Monkeys are smart people that truly love Haleigh.
Sorry, my monkey friends that I made this so long. I could go on and on b/c I'am so angry with all this BS. Not too, mention the fact that Cobra went to jail for trying to help. Which I know that's another story in itself.
O.K. I'll shut up for now. Thanks for letting me vent.
I wrote this so quickly, I may have a few errors, please forgive.
Pickles, if u reading this, get back to Haleigh. The crown belongs to her not you.

Oh Rosebud....I didn't want to tell anyone, but since HH confessed...I too have been banned.  I try to pull up all the links you guys post, but all I get is a white screen.  Last Sunday I suggested to "pickles" that I would think since a beautiful little girl is missing, she might want to pay attention during her next radio show and I did, err, well...Ok, I told her she sounded like an idiot AND drunk and she was being disrespectful to a whole lot of people that were seriously concerned about Haleigh. And that if she HAD to be on Sundays show, could she please stop giggling, because this is a VERY SERIOUS MATTER.  And I told her it wasn't a freaking joke. 

So yeah.  I'm banned too.  oh well.   ::MonkeyCool::

Now.  The reason I say Snodgrass knows Haleigh is because he lived in the vicinity.  Haven't we heard Misty and the kids walked around some?  Betcha as a POS, he knows all the little kids in town.  And if it's anywhere near Green Lane...  well, we for the most part knows who lives on our streets, don't we??

Don't worry your cute little ears about it, they will eventually nail all of us.. those people are strange.. They don't want to hear truths.  They don't like outsiders, I found that out the other day..  To date, the only thing that I have obtained info from, was the radio interviews, from art and cobra, and the story line blog that might have a tid bit in it.. Other than that.. the posters are not interested in Haleigh gone Missing, or talking about it.  After, making fun of them last night here, I wouldn't doubt they will come lurking, and decide who I am and ban me.... I thought about going over there and telling them that I was going to ban myself to save my sanity from their stupidy..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: little lulu on May 23, 2009, 10:15:39 AM
Thank-you all,  I really like being here although I don't contribute anything other than admiration for all the research and dedication you Monkey's are doing.  I work full time,  and have found when I am at home there is no time to do house work for reading in here...LOL.  Even my husband questions me as to what the Monkey's are saying because you all know it before it ever makes it to JVM or Nancy Grace.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 23, 2009, 10:15:46 AM
Here is an article that appeared in the Palatka News. I joined to get the online copy.

March 25, 2009

BY KRISTIN CHAMBERS
Palatka Daily News
SATSUMA – A bounty hunter has been accused of illegally detaining a Putnam County man free on bail on a sex

----------------------snip---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

2cents.

I haven't found Eric Belcher, but...I found this nice search...http://usadailyobits.com/florida-obituaries-21509/

Seahorse

Hello 2 cents and buy Monkeys,


Have you guys checked Cemeteries?:)  I have called cemeteries and usually, very helpful people.

What is great about cemeteries, sometimes, you will find an  obit on line, or the person(interment),-if they
maintain a web-site. I have called different cemeteries in my past search, they call sell information "genealogy" for the internet.

I would keep in mind historical societies, I have called Historical Societies (in another state) and recieved great information on cemeteries, etc. Jacksonville, Library, main branch (a guess) look them up on line, see if they offer genealogy or OBITS.

Searches, keep it mind, they may not be fully loaded. IMO

http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genealogyInfo.php?locIndex=8908


Florida divorce index on ancestry.com, it may not be fully loaded, IMO

http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=8837&offerid=0%3a7858%3a0


Many of the States have archived vaults.. such as georgia.. that you can pull up marriages, death certificates etc. I will pull the address's for the vaults..  Louisiana has a library that has archive storage,  Miss - No, Ala - No.. SC big archive search file.. How much to current date we would find in the files, I don't know..  Now SC has Wills..  Florida, I have to do a bit of research to see if they have a vault.. NC, big vault..  Now. Byu has a huge site that we can draw from, also Familysearch, I received an email the other day that they had extended their search program.. Remember Familysearch, and Ancestry has been taken over by BYU, and they have just really started a dna volunteer program called Sorenson's, obtaining both dna and family genealogy.


http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=FLdivorce&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=ms_db-8837&gsln=welfenberg

I found a Robert Welfenberg, divorce, Putham County.  I can not retrieve the info., we know the papers were filed in Putham County, FL. I can't assume this is her husband but since the last name is rare, it should be Dorothy Annette Stallings, Squires, Welfenberg, Sykes, husband. IMO

I have called for county clerks offices for divorces, it $$ to look up a divorce, generally, I have gotten lucky in one city and they just looked up a divorce free from over the phone.  I found you need to call the courthouse where the
divorce was filed. I think you guys knew that -its just I didn't:)  You can also look up Wills, $$.



http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=FLdivorce&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=ms_db-8837&gsln=welfenberg


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 23, 2009, 10:23:56 AM
Here is an article that appeared in the Palatka News. I joined to get the online copy.

March 25, 2009

BY KRISTIN CHAMBERS
Palatka Daily News
SATSUMA – A bounty hunter has been accused of illegally detaining a Putnam County man free on bail on a sex

----------------------snip---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

2cents.

I haven't found Eric Belcher, but...I found this nice search...http://usadailyobits.com/florida-obituaries-21509/

Seahorse

Hello 2 cents and buy Monkeys,


Have you guys checked Cemeteries?:)  I have called cemeteries and usually, very helpful people.

What is great about cemeteries, sometimes, you will find an  obit on line, or the person(interment),-if they
maintain a web-site. I have called different cemeteries in my past search, they call sell information "genealogy" for the internet.

I would keep in mind historical societies, I have called Historical Societies (in another state) and recieved great information on cemeteries, etc. Jacksonville, Library, main branch (a guess) look them up on line, see if they offer genealogy or OBITS.

Searches, keep it mind, they may not be fully loaded. IMO

http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genealogyInfo.php?locIndex=8908


Florida divorce index on ancestry.com, it may not be fully loaded, IMO

http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=8837&offerid=0%3a7858%3a0


Many of the States have archived vaults.. such as georgia.. that you can pull up marriages, death certificates etc. I will pull the address's for the vaults..  Louisiana has a library that has archive storage,  Miss - No, Ala - No.. SC big archive search file.. How much to current date we would find in the files, I don't know..  Now SC has Wills..  Florida, I have to do a bit of research to see if they have a vault.. NC, big vault..  Now. Byu has a huge site that we can draw from, also Familysearch, I received an email the other day that they had extended their search program.. Remember Familysearch, and Ancestry has been taken over by BYU, and they have just really started a dna volunteer program called Sorenson's, obtaining both dna and family genealogy.


http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=FLdivorce&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=ms_db-8837&gsln=welfenberg

I found a Robert Welfenberg, divorce, Putham County.  I can not retrieve the info., we know the papers were filed in Putham County, FL. I can't assume this is her husband but since the last name is rare, it should be Dorothy Annette Stallings, Squires, Welfenberg, Sykes, husband. IMO

I have called for county clerks offices for divorces, it $$ to look up a divorce, generally, I have gotten lucky in one city and they just looked up a divorce free from over the phone.  I found you need to call the courthouse where the
divorce was filed. I think you guys knew that -its just I didn't:)  You can also look up Wills, $$.



http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=FLdivorce&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=ms_db-8837&gsln=welfenberg

Wow.. you do dig well.. When I go back to Texas research.. you coming with me? 
I can't believe how many times these women have been married.. Wondering just how many times these woman have been married..  No wonder those familes are so dysfunctional..   Let me get a bit more coffee down, and my head cleared pretty good, and I will dig with you....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 23, 2009, 10:39:16 AM
Goodmorning Jersey and Mio.. Happy to see you guyz on a fine sun shinning carolina morning..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mioyshi on May 23, 2009, 11:02:11 AM
Goodmorning Jersey and Mio.. Happy to see you guyz on a fine sun shinning carolina morning..

Good Morning Mlee,,,,

I am forever trying to stay current here, so much to read, http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30891649
so little time.










Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 23, 2009, 11:09:33 AM
Good Morning Monkey's.... I see all the monkey's are busy looking up information to find our Haleigh.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 23, 2009, 11:10:37 AM
This one pertains to Grandma Sykes..

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/248807-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 23, 2009, 11:13:13 AM
These two pertain to Robert B. Welfenburg and Two of his wives, Bernice and Donna

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/3677321.jpg)
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/3565701.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 23, 2009, 11:35:47 AM
Here is an article that appeared in the Palatka News. I joined to get the online copy.

March 25, 2009

BY KRISTIN CHAMBERS
Palatka Daily News
SATSUMA – A bounty hunter has been accused of illegally detaining a Putnam County man free on bail on a sex

----------------------snip---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

2cents.

I haven't found Eric Belcher, but...I found this nice search...http://usadailyobits.com/florida-obituaries-21509/

Seahorse

Hello 2 cents and buy Monkeys,


Have you guys checked Cemeteries?:)  I have called cemeteries and usually, very helpful people.

What is great about cemeteries, sometimes, you will find an  obit on line, or the person(interment),-if they
maintain a web-site. I have called different cemeteries in my past search, they call sell information "genealogy" for the internet.

I would keep in mind historical societies, I have called Historical Societies (in another state) and recieved great information on cemeteries, etc. Jacksonville, Library, main branch (a guess) look them up on line, see if they offer genealogy or OBITS.

Searches, keep it mind, they may not be fully loaded. IMO

http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genealogyInfo.php?locIndex=8908


Florida divorce index on ancestry.com, it may not be fully loaded, IMO

http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=8837&offerid=0%3a7858%3a0


Many of the States have archived vaults.. such as georgia.. that you can pull up marriages, death certificates etc. I will pull the address's for the vaults..  Louisiana has a library that has archive storage,  Miss - No, Ala - No.. SC big archive search file.. How much to current date we would find in the files, I don't know..  Now SC has Wills..  Florida, I have to do a bit of research to see if they have a vault.. NC, big vault..  Now. Byu has a huge site that we can draw from, also Familysearch, I received an email the other day that they had extended their search program.. Remember Familysearch, and Ancestry has been taken over by BYU, and they have just really started a dna volunteer program called Sorenson's, obtaining both dna and family genealogy.


http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=FLdivorce&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=ms_db-8837&gsln=welfenberg

I found a Robert Welfenberg, divorce, Putham County.  I can not retrieve the info., we know the papers were filed in Putham County, FL. I can't assume this is her husband but since the last name is rare, it should be Dorothy Annette Stallings, Squires, Welfenberg, Sykes, husband. IMO

I have called for county clerks offices for divorces, it $$ to look up a divorce, generally, I have gotten lucky in one city and they just looked up a divorce free from over the phone.  I found you need to call the courthouse where the
divorce was filed. I think you guys knew that -its just I didn't:)  You can also look up Wills, $$.



http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=FLdivorce&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=ms_db-8837&gsln=welfenberg
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

We dig well, because, we smell rotten stuff!  We need to find out where all this stink comes from:) God bless you, digging up Mr.W., I going to make a pot of coffee and read.  WOW!
TY 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 23, 2009, 11:36:49 AM
I am reading Art new column, on the incidence and the arrest and failure of the first company A-1 bonding to bond Cobra out.. It's over money, they claimed he still owed them....  Money mind you.. the golden goose that people chase..

Come on over and read with me......

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/#more-2049


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 23, 2009, 12:08:27 PM
Details:

UCN: 542007CF002375XXAXMX
File Date: 2007-12-19 Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM   
Defense Atty: MOYER, JEAN DESROSIERS 

Defendant
SNODGRASS, DANIEL E 
Alias
SANGRASS, DANIEL E 


Date # Docket Description
2007-12-19 1 COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. KE TAYLOR (9/23/07) 

2007-12-19 1 CAPITAL SEXUAL BATTERY 

2007-12-19 1 LEWD & LASCIVIOUS MOLESTATION 

2007-12-19 2 WARRANT ISSUED - NO BOND AWN 

2007-12-20 3 ARREST REPORT: WARRANT (12/19/2007) 

2007-12-20 4 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 

2007-12-20 4 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY 

2007-12-20 4 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND 

2007-12-20 4 NO BOND SET 

2007-12-20 5 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY 

2007-12-20 6 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER 

2007-12-20 7 WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED 

2008-02-06 8 INFORMATION - I - SEXUAL BATTERY ON PERSON LESS THAN 

2008-02-06 8 12 YEARS OF AGE - II - LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS MOLESTATION 

2008-02-07 9 COMPLAINT TRANSFERRED FROM CASE NO.08-402MM 

2008-02-07 10 COMPLAINT TRANSFERRED FROM CASE NO. 08-401MM 

2008-02-08 11 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (02-29-2008) IN JAIL 

2008-02-29 12 ARRAIGNMENT MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, SWORN, ARRAIGNED, 

2008-02-29 12 PUBLIC DEFENDER APPOINTED, ENTERED PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, 

2008-02-29 12 SET FOR PRE TRIAL 05/13/2008. 

2008-02-29 13 AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS 

2008-02-29 14 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER 

2008-02-29 15 ORDER SETTING PRE TRIAL 05/13/2008 

2008-02-29 16 WAIVER OF AARRAIGNMENT AND WRITTEN PLEA OF NOT GUILTY 

2008-02-29 16 FILED BY VALLI B QUETTI 

2008-02-29 17 NOTICE OF INTENT TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCOVERY 

2008-03-04 18 MOTION FOR BOND REDUCTION 

2008-03-13 19 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 03/20/2008 @ 2:30 PM 

2008-03-13 19 ON MOTION FOR BOND 

2008-03-17 20 STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED: 

2008-03-17 20 DET. KENNETH D. TAYLOR 

2008-03-19 21 DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO COMPEL RESPONSE TO DISCOVERY 

2008-03-20 22 MOTION HEARING MINUTES: MOTION FOR BOND REDUCTION 

2008-03-20 22 CONTINUED UNTIL FURTHER ORDER OF COURT 

2008-03-25 23 STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED: 

2008-03-25 23 DET KENNETH D TAYLOR 

2008-03-31 24 STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT 

2008-03-31 25 WITNESS LIST 

2008-03-31 26 DEMAND FOR RECIPROCAL DISCLOSURE 

2008-04-10 27 ORDER CONCERNING BOND - BOND SET AT $70,004. SECURED 

2008-04-14 28 AMENDED ORDER 

2008-04-15 29 $70,004.00 CHUCK'S BAIL BOND POSTED - #PC125-703710 

2008-04-15 30 $ 5,004.00 CHUCK'S BAIL BOND POSTED - #PC7-742669 

2008-04-15 30 04/11/2008 CONTINENTAL HERITAGE INSURANCE CO. 

2008-04-16 31 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (05-13-2008) 

2008-05-13 32 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY VAL QUETTI 

2008-05-13 32 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE 

2008-05-13 32 CONTINUED TO 09/17/2008 

2008-05-13 32 COURT HAS NO OBJECTION TO DR APPTS & ATTORNEY APPTS 

2008-05-13 32 OUT OF COUNTY 

2008-05-16 33 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (09/17/2008) 

2008-06-27 34 AMENDED BOND STIPULATION 

2008-06-27 35 ORDER GRANTING AUTHORIZATION FOR DEFENDANT TO LEAVE 

2008-06-27 35 PUTNAM COUNTY 

2008-07-28 36 NOTICE OF FILING DEFENDANT'S PERMISSION TO TRAVEL 

2008-07-28 36 OUTSIDE PUTNAM COUNTY 

2008-07-30 37 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION 

2008-07-30 38 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED TO: DET PEGGY CONE 

2008-07-30 38 TO BE TAKEN 09/03/2008 AT 09:00 AM 

2008-07-30 39 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED TO: EVIDENCE COSTODIAN 

2008-07-30 39 PCSO - TO BE TAKEN 09/03/2008 AT 09:30 AM 

2008-07-30 40 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED TO: MICHAEL HARRELL 

2008-07-30 40 TO BE TAKEN 09/03/2008 AT 10:00 AM 

2008-07-30 41 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED TO: SGT RICKY LYLE 

2008-07-30 41 TO BE TAKEN 09/03/2008 AT 10:30 AM 

2008-07-30 42 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED TO: DET ELTON MILLER 

2008-07-30 42 TO BE TAKEN 09/03/2008 AT 11:00 AM 

2008-07-30 43 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED TO: WILLIAM PRIOLETTI 

2008-07-30 43 TO BE TAKEN 09/03/2008 AT 11:30 AM 

2008-07-30 44 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED TO: DET DAVID SANDERS 

2008-07-30 44 TO BE TAKEN 09/03/2008 AT 01:30 PM 

2008-07-30 45 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED TO: DET DOUG SCHWALL 

2008-07-30 45 TO BE TAKEN 09/03/2008 AT 02:00 PM 

2008-07-30 46 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED TO: DET KENNETH TAYLOR 

2008-07-30 46 TO BE TAKEN 09/03/2008 AT 02:30 PM 

2008-07-30 47 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED TO: DET JULIE SIMMS 

2008-07-30 47 TO BE TAKEN 09/03/2008 AT 03:00 PM 

2008-08-05 48 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION RETURNED SERVED: 

2008-08-05 48 EVIDENCE CUSTODIAN - PCSO 

2008-08-05 49 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION RETURNED SERVED: 

2008-08-05 49 SGT. RICKY LYLE 

2008-08-05 50 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION RETURNED SERVED: 

2008-08-05 50 DET DOUG SCHWALL 

2008-08-05 51 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION RETURNED SERVED: 

2008-08-05 51 DET WILLIAM PRIOLETTI 

2008-08-05 52 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION RETURNED SERVED: 

2008-08-05 52 DET DAVID SANDERS 

2008-08-05 53 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION RETURNED SERVED: 

2008-08-05 53 DET KENNETH TAYLOR 

2008-08-05 54 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION RETURNED SERVED: 

2008-08-05 54 DET JULIE SIMMS WALKER 

2008-08-05 55 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION RETURNED SERVED: 

2008-08-05 55 DET ELTON MILLER 

2008-08-12 56 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION 

2008-08-12 57 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED TO: LILLIAN VAN HOUTEN 

2008-08-12 57 TO BE TAKEN 10/03/2008 AT 09:30 AM 

2008-08-12 58 MOTION FOR DISCLOSURE OF CHILD PROTECTION TEAM 

2008-08-12 58 RECORDS AND REPORTS 

2008-08-13 59 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION RETURNED SERVED: 

2008-08-13 59 MICHAEL HARRELL - PCSO 

2008-08-20 60 MOTION FOR STATEMENT OF PARTICULARS AND REQUEST FOR 

2008-08-20 60 HEARING 

2008-08-20 61 DEFENDANT'S 2ND MOTION TO COMPEL RESPONSE TO DISCOVERY 

2008-08-20 62 ORDER GRANTING TESTIMONY OF CHILD PROTECTION TEAM 

2008-08-20 63 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION RETURNED SERVED: 

2008-08-20 63 LILLIAN VAN HOUTEN SUB SVC DENA JOHNSON 

2008-08-25 64 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION RETURNED SERVED: 

2008-08-25 64 DET. PEGGY CONE - PCSO 

2008-08-27 65 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 09/02/2008 AT 03:30 PM 

2008-08-27 66 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION 

2008-08-27 67 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED TO: WILLIAM COTTER 

2008-08-27 67 TO BE TAKEN 10/03/2008 AT 10:00 AM 

2008-08-27 68 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED TO: B.M.W. C/O PARENT 

2008-08-27 68 OR GUARDIAN - TO BE TAKEN 10/03/2008 AT 10:45 AM 

2008-09-02 69 MOTION HEARING MINUTES: DEFENSE MOTION FOR STATEMENT 

2008-09-02 69 OF PARTICULARS - STATE TO PREPARE ORDER 

2008-09-02 69 PT CON'T TO 10/08/2008 

2008-09-05 70 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (10-08-2008) 

2008-09-05 71 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION RETURNED UNSERVED: 

2008-09-05 71 B.M.W. C/O PARENT - VACANT LOT 

2008-09-05 72 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION RETURNED SERVED: 

2008-09-05 72 WILLIAM COTTER - DCF 

2008-09-09 73 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION 

2008-09-09 74 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED TO: A.M.W 

2008-09-09 74 TO BE TAKEN 10/17/2008 @ 1:00 PM 

2008-10-08 75 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY VAL QUETTI, 

2008-10-08 75 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE 

2008-10-08 75 CONTINUED TO 11/13/2008 

2008-10-08 76 NOTICE OF SIMILAR FACT EVIDENCE 

2008-10-10 79 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION RETURNED SERVED: 

2008-10-10 79 A.M.W. C/O SHANNON CHANCEY 

2008-10-13 77 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (11-13-2008) 

2008-10-13 78 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (11-13-2008) 

2008-10-14 80 SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST 

2008-10-14 81 SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST 

2008-10-20 82 MOTION TO WITHDRAW 

2008-10-20 83 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 10/21/2008 @ 1:30 PM 

2008-10-21 84 MOTION TO SUBSTITUTE COUNSEL 

2008-10-21 85 ORDER ON MOTION TO SUBSTITUTE COUNSEL - GRANTED 

2008-10-21 86 MOTION HEARING MINUTES: MOTION TO WITHDRAW AS 

2008-10-21 86 COUNSEL GRANTED - JEAN MOYER SUBSTITUTED AS COUNSEL 

2008-10-21 87 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (11/13/2008) 

2008-10-27 88 SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST 

2008-10-27 89 AMENDED INFORMATION (SEXUAL BATTERY ON PERSON LESS 

2008-10-27 89 THAN 12 YEARS OF AGE; LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS MOLESTATION) 

2008-11-04 90 ORDER GRANTING MOTION TO COMPEL DISCOVERY 

2008-11-13 91 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JEAN MOYER 

2008-11-13 91 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE 

2008-11-13 91 CONTINUED TO 12/18/2008 

2008-11-17 92 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (12/18/2008) 

2008-11-17 93 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (12/18/2008) 

2008-12-18 94 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JEAN MOYER 

2008-12-18 94 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE 

2008-12-18 94 CONTINUED TO 01/14/2009 

2008-12-22 95 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (01-14-2009) 

2008-12-22 96 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (01-14-2009) 

2009-01-14 97 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JEAN MOYER 

2009-01-14 97 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE 

2009-01-14 97 CONTINUED TO 03/05/2009 

2009-01-15 98 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03/05/2009) 

2009-01-15 99 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (03/05/2009) 

2009-01-26 100 NOTICE OF ALIBI 

2009-01-26 101 MOTION FOR ADDITIONAL DISCOVERY 

2009-01-26 102 DEFENDANT'S RESPONSE TO STATE'S MOTION FOR DISCOVERY 

2009-01-27 103 MOTION TO MODIFY CONDITIONS OF PRETRIAL RELEASE 

2009-03-02 104 APPLICATION FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS 

2009-03-02 105 MOTION FOR DEPOSITION 

2009-03-02 106 MOTION TO TAKE VIDEO TESTIMONY OF WITNESS UNDER AGE 16 

2009-03-02 107 MOTION TO TAKE VIDEO TESTIMONY OF WITNESS UNDER AGE 16 

2009-03-02 108 DEFENSE'S ADDITIONAL WITNESS LIST 

2009-03-05 109 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JEAN MOYER 

2009-03-05 109 STATE AND DEFENSE ANNOUNCED READY FOR TRIAL 

2009-03-05 109 CASE SET FOR JURY TRIAL 06/22/2009 

2009-03-06 110 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (06/22/2009) 

2009-03-06 111 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (06/22/2009) 

2009-03-16 112 ORDER FINDING DEFT INDIGENT FOR COSTS 

2009-03-25 113 MOTION TO MODIFY CONDITIONS OF PRETRIAL RELEASE 

2009-04-09 114 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/01/2009 AT 02:00PM 

2009-04-30 115 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION 

2009-04-30 116 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED TO: BARBIE HUDSON, RN 

2009-04-30 116 TO BE TAKEN 05/12/2009 @ 1:00 PM 

2009-04-30 117 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED TO: MARK JOHN WEBB 

2009-04-30 117 TO BE TAKEN 05/12/2009 @ 2:00 PM 

2009-05-01 118 MOTION HEARING MINUTES: MOTION TO MODIFY CONDITIONS 

2009-05-01 118 OF PRE-TRIAL RELEASE - JEAN MOYER TO PREPARE ORDER 

2009-05-01 119 COPY OF GLOBAL MONITORING INVOICE 

2009-05-08 120 ORDER DENYING DEFTS MOTION TO MODIFY CONDITIONS 

2009-05-08 120 OF PRE TRIAL RELEASE 




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: ospainter on May 23, 2009, 01:01:06 PM

I found this JVM transcript from March 3, 2009
Not sure if it is what your looking for.
http://tr.truveo.com/croslin-family-speaks/id/1346972614

In it it mentions a cummings neighbor and police got a tip about his doorbell (which he says he doesn't have), His name is Marty Hubbard and on Art's article about snodgrass wanting to donate to the haleigh bug it said that when snodgrass was confronted about being a SO he called out to his friend MARTY to call the police.
I wonder if the two marty's could be one in the same???

Also A door bell that rings like a grandfather clock...Could it be a ringtone for a cell phone??

Hi JNGA,

It was the 6 to 7 hr HLN's show with Mike Galano, but thanks so much for looking.

I think iirc, a tip was called in about a grandfather clock sound, it was later determined that the person that posted the utube where you could hear the grandfather clock, actually came from the person's clock that posted the utube. does that make sense? I hope I have that right. My memory is not very good.

I don't know about the Marty's..sorry.

OS

The time of the show should be 5 to 6 pm not 6 to 7. Cookie and I both saw it and posted about it before 6 pm.

OS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 23, 2009, 01:01:15 PM
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=ROOT_CATEGORY&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=ms_f-2&gsfn=+Annette&gsln=welfenberg&msbpn=12&msbpn__ftp=Florida%2C+USA&msdpn=12&msdpn__ftp=Florida%2C+USA

I hope this link comes through...I am digging..Why are we going back to Texas to search?

I did find a Sykes / Belcher gravestone on Ancestry.com (pictures) in Texas

"Bobbi Louise Squires" was born in Harris, Texas to Joe Stephen Squires
"Teresa Ann ette Squires" was born in Dallas, Texas to Joe Stephen Squires.


IMO
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I found a different in Florida "Bobbi Squires" on findagrave.com she was born (I think) 1928, a relative? IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 23, 2009, 01:19:05 PM
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=ROOT_CATEGORY&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=ms_f-2&gsfn=+Annette&gsln=welfenberg&msbpn=12&msbpn__ftp=Florida%2C+USA&msdpn=12&msdpn__ftp=Florida%2C+USA

I hope this link comes through...I am digging..Why are we going back to Texas to search?

I did find a Sykes / Belcher gravestone on Ancestry.com (pictures) in Texas

"Bobbi Louise Squires" was born in Harris, Texas to Joe Stephen Squires
"Teresa Ann ette Squires" was born in Dallas, Texas to Joe Stephen Squires.


IMO
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I found a different in Florida "Bobbi Squires" on findagrave.com she was born (I think) 1928, a relative? IMO

Could be the mom.. I thing Grandma is about the same age I am, so her Mom would have been born about that time.  My Mother was born in 1930..  Why research in Texas..  I took a break from my Genealogy Research.. Researching John Stewart Roberts to come over and Research and Find Haleigh.. When we have her home.. I go back to tearing Texas files apart... Lots to tear apart..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 23, 2009, 01:23:03 PM
http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi?lastname=welfenberg&firstname=&nt=exact

The logic behind me posting the above link is the make clear on the Welfenberg's.
There are two Robert Welfenberg's, only, one Robert B.Welfenberg that I am aware of.

Why can't I find "Joe Stephen Squires"? Joseph or Stephen?  This guy is difficult to catch,
perhaps, he was wise to maintain a low profile, I wonder why. There is a 1945 Texas census it is on
familysearch.org., "pilot program" click on the map, a list of links to search, one is 1945 Texas census
among other cholces.

PS I you are interested, I would try, "Family Search Pilot Program" on google, may be the best route.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 23, 2009, 01:40:50 PM
http://vitals.rootsweb.ancestry.com/tx/death/search.cgi

Free site for Texas death records. Please, keep in mind, sometimes, sites are fully loaded.

I am looking for a free Florida death records search if one is available?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 23, 2009, 01:53:24 PM
http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/deathrecords.html

Online Searchable Death Indexes for the USA
Includes Obituaries, Cemeteries & the Social Security Death


I know you are talented monkeys, I didn't want to assume anything, so I popped the link just in case.
That's all for now:)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 23, 2009, 01:59:00 PM
Hi please could a talented monkey assemble a structure of Dorothy Annette Stallings husbands?
I get all messed up with this womens husbands, first was it Squires or was it Welfenberg?
So it three times we think she was married?

Why can't we find anything on Joe Stephan Squires?  Do we know if he is really dead or just playing dead?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 23, 2009, 02:24:33 PM
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=ROOT_CATEGORY&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=ms_f-2&gsfn=+Annette&gsln=welfenberg&msbpn=12&msbpn__ftp=Florida%2C+USA&msdpn=12&msdpn__ftp=Florida%2C+USA

I hope this link comes through...I am digging..Why are we going back to Texas to search?

I did find a Sykes / Belcher gravestone on Ancestry.com (pictures) in Texas

"Bobbi Louise Squires" was born in Harris, Texas to Joe Stephen Squires
"Teresa Ann ette Squires" was born in Dallas, Texas to Joe Stephen Squires.


IMO
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I found a different in Florida "Bobbi Squires" on findagrave.com she was born (I think) 1928, a relative? IMO

This is Bobby and Bert Squires from Putnam, but do not list Joe or his children.
Bert Howard Squires, 81, of Francis, died peacefully Sunday, Dec. 11, 2005, at the Putnam Community Medical Center in Palatka.

He was a native and lifelong resident of Francis. He was a distinguished WWII veteran, having served in the U.S. Army. While in the U.S. Army he was assigned to the 9th Armored Division of the 52 Armored Infantry Battalion. His service included participating in the landing at Normandy on D-Day on June 6, 1944 and the Battle of the Bulge. Wounded in the Battle of the Bulge, he was captured by the German forces and imprisoned. For his service he received the European African Middle Eastern Ribbon, two Bronze Stars, Purple Heart and one Oak Leaf Cluster and the World War II Service Ribbon. His record of military service was featured in the Palatka Daily News. Following the war he worked for Georgia-Pacific Corp. in Palatka as a crane operator and later as a control room operator, retiring in 1986 after 35 years of service. He was a member of the Pineland Lodge No. 86, Free and Accepted Masons and was of the Baptist faith. He loved his family, friends and animals and he enjoyed his memories of past days of hunting.

He was preceded in death by his parents, Albert and Margaret(McCraney) Squires and his twin brother, Bruce Squires.

Surviving is his wife of 60 years, Betty Squires; his son and daughter-in-law, Tommy and Kathy Squires; grandson, Bruce Squires and fiance Terri Sawyer; nine great-grandchildren; two sisters-in-law, Virginia Mitchell and Doris Wells; nieces and nephews, Linda Driggers, Judy Cooper, Sharon Myers Squires, Michael and Mark Wells, Marcy Russell and Matthew, Sammy, Danny and Benny Wells.

The family will receive friends from 5-7 p.m. Wednesday, at Masters Funeral Home of Palatka. Funeral services will be 2 p.m. Thursday, Dec. 15, at the funeral home, with the Rev. Harry Varnadoe and the Rev. Bill Williams officiating. Burial will follow at Etoniah Cemetery, Bardin, with military honors bestowed by the U. S. Army.
 
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 23, 2009, 02:43:05 PM
http://www.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&qf=katrina&qmi=M&qn=arbuckle&qs=FL&trackit=74


Eric Wade Belcher, fell off the face of the earth without an obit, or I can't find it, but, I did find he has a relative "Katrina Arbuckle" is that Katrina Sykes Belcher Arbuckle?  I looked up Katrina Arbuckle and found
 Ark. is a state on the search engine above.

http://www.peoplefinders.com/search/searchpreview.aspx?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on May 23, 2009, 02:48:58 PM
New article:

http://www.artharris.com/category/art-harris-reports/

The hairs on my neck are raised this morning...I keep seeing the posts here about the 'Lulu Person'  whomever this is...is not me,  I can barely keep up with what is going on in here. 





Oh Lulu we don't think it's you, the people on Simon's blog are crazy  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 23, 2009, 02:49:55 PM
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start

Lot's of free links, but, click the above link,hopefully, it will take to the right site and then click
on the map, where you wish to search.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=family+search+pilot+program&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g1


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 23, 2009, 02:55:45 PM
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=ROOT_CATEGORY&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=ms_f-2&gsfn=+Annette&gsln=welfenberg&msbpn=12&msbpn__ftp=Florida%2C+USA&msdpn=12&msdpn__ftp=Florida%2C+USA

I hope this link comes through...I am digging..Why are we going back to Texas to search?

I did find a Sykes / Belcher gravestone on Ancestry.com (pictures) in Texas

"Bobbi Louise Squires" was born in Harris, Texas to Joe Stephen Squires
"Teresa Ann ette Squires" was born in Dallas, Texas to Joe Stephen Squires.


IMO
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I found a different in Florida "Bobbi Squires" on findagrave.com she was born (I think) 1928, a relative? IMO

This is Bobby and Bert Squires from Putnam, but do not list Joe or his children.
Bert Howard Squires, 81, of Francis, died peacefully Sunday, Dec. 11, 2005, at the Putnam Community Medical Center in Palatka.

He was a native and lifelong resident of Francis. He was a distinguished WWII veteran, having served in the U.S. Army. While in the U.S. Army he was assigned to the 9th Armored Division of the 52 Armored Infantry Battalion. His service included participating in the landing at Normandy on D-Day on June 6, 1944 and the Battle of the Bulge. Wounded in the Battle of the Bulge, he was captured by the German forces and imprisoned. For his service he received the European African Middle Eastern Ribbon, two Bronze Stars, Purple Heart and one Oak Leaf Cluster and the World War II Service Ribbon. His record of military service was featured in the Palatka Daily News. Following the war he worked for Georgia-Pacific Corp. in Palatka as a crane operator and later as a control room operator, retiring in 1986 after 35 years of service. He was a member of the Pineland Lodge No. 86, Free and Accepted Masons and was of the Baptist faith. He loved his family, friends and animals and he enjoyed his memories of past days of hunting.

He was preceded in death by his parents, Albert and Margaret(McCraney) Squires and his twin brother, Bruce Squires.

Surviving is his wife of 60 years, Betty Squires; his son and daughter-in-law, Tommy and Kathy Squires; grandson, Bruce Squires and fiance Terri Sawyer; nine great-grandchildren; two sisters-in-law, Virginia Mitchell and Doris Wells; nieces and nephews, Linda Driggers, Judy Cooper, Sharon Myers Squires, Michael and Mark Wells, Marcy Russell and Matthew, Sammy, Danny and Benny Wells.

The family will receive friends from 5-7 p.m. Wednesday, at Masters Funeral Home of Palatka. Funeral services will be 2 p.m. Thursday, Dec. 15, at the funeral home, with the Rev. Harry Varnadoe and the Rev. Bill Williams officiating. Burial will follow at Etoniah Cemetery, Bardin, with military honors bestowed by the U. S. Army.
 
 

Thank-you, I will keep digging.  The "military registrations" are GREAT on ancestry.com, I'm sorry, I dont have a
membership, they are the bestsource, because they listed the addresses, who is the next of kin, height, weight, etc.
ancestry.com anything military on ancestry is just great stuff, but, you need to be a member OR press "pictures"
sometimes somethng will appear, or information.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 23, 2009, 04:44:52 PM
Katrina (Sykes) Belcher, Arbuckle, Branham ?

http://www.peoplefinders.com/search/searchpreview.aspx?

Katrina Arbucklle has another name under #3 on this page.

I find this curious at how the men seem to die young. IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 23, 2009, 04:51:10 PM
http://www.footnote.com/

Seems to be a good source, they are offering a free seven day membership if you are interested, same as ancestry, but, more like scrambled eggs. OK, I am finished at cluttering up for the day. I would read the fine print what you agree to before signing up for the free membership, I don't know what it is, but, buyer beware:)  IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 23, 2009, 05:07:07 PM
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=ROOT_CATEGORY&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=ms_f-2&gsfn=+Annette&gsln=welfenberg&msbpn=12&msbpn__ftp=Florida%2C+USA&msdpn=12&msdpn__ftp=Florida%2C+USA

I hope this link comes through...I am digging..Why are we going back to Texas to search?

I did find a Sykes / Belcher gravestone on Ancestry.com (pictures) in Texas

"Bobbi Louise Squires" was born in Harris, Texas to Joe Stephen Squires
"Teresa Ann ette Squires" was born in Dallas, Texas to Joe Stephen Squires.


IMO
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I found a different in Florida "Bobbi Squires" on findagrave.com she was born (I think) 1928, a relative? IMO

Could be the mom.. I thing Grandma is about the same age I am, so her Mom would have been born about that time.  My Mother was born in 1930..  Why research in Texas..  I took a break from my Genealogy Research.. Researching John Stewart Roberts to come over and Research and Find Haleigh.. When we have her home.. I go back to tearing Texas files apart... Lots to tear apart..

Remember Ron took the children to Texas when he took the children from Crystal.
Who does Ron know in Texas??? Was it a family member he was visiting? ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Dolce on May 23, 2009, 05:15:50 PM
::MonkeyDance:: ANOTHER VERY QUICK EASY EMAIL FOR AMBER DUBOIS!! ::MonkeyDance::

Yes, I am asking for everyone to please help again in getting the word out today.  I want to swamp the media with requests each day until they get her name out there and to the viewers.  She needs some coverage as she has not had any mainstream focus as of yet. 
TIA


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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 23, 2009, 05:36:54 PM
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=ROOT_CATEGORY&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=ms_f-2&gsfn=+Annette&gsln=welfenberg&msbpn=12&msbpn__ftp=Florida%2C+USA&msdpn=12&msdpn__ftp=Florida%2C+USA

I hope this link comes through...I am digging..Why are we going back to Texas to search?

I did find a Sykes / Belcher gravestone on Ancestry.com (pictures) in Texas

"Bobbi Louise Squires" was born in Harris, Texas to Joe Stephen Squires
"Teresa Ann ette Squires" was born in Dallas, Texas to Joe Stephen Squires.


IMO
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I found a different in Florida "Bobbi Squires" on findagrave.com she was born (I think) 1928, a relative? IMO

Could be the mom.. I thing Grandma is about the same age I am, so her Mom would have been born about that time.  My Mother was born in 1930..  Why research in Texas..  I took a break from my Genealogy Research.. Researching John Stewart Roberts to come over and Research and Find Haleigh.. When we have her home.. I go back to tearing Texas files apart... Lots to tear apart..

Remember Ron took the children to Texas when he took the children from Crystal.
Who does Ron know in Texas??? Was it a family member he was visiting? ::MonkeyTongue::

Quite Possible, his Grandma was born in Dallas, Texas.. there are lots of Squires still out there, haven't checked for the rest yet...  Heard from Grama today???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 23, 2009, 05:41:57 PM
LISTEN to Timothy's 5-22-09 interview with William 'COBRA' Staubs.

COBRA speaks out after being charged and jailed on 5-22-2009 for a crime he allegedly committed over two months prior in the presence of police officers who did nothing.

http://writeintoaction.com/COBRA.htm


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 23, 2009, 06:16:37 PM
LISTEN to Timothy's 5-22-09 interview with Johnny Sheffield, father of Crystal Sheffiield (Haleigh Cummings' Biological Mother)

http://writeintoaction.com/COBRA.htm


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 23, 2009, 06:19:09 PM
Good afternoon,


I haven't heard from grama.


"Glenda Miller, Texas", Myles K. Sykes, daughter? listed, below on Mr.Sykes obit.

I found it curious that "Katrina Sykes, Belcher, Branham ,Arbuckle",  Arkansaw was on one search and not again on any others. IMO


Seahorse

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Deceased Name: Myles K. Sykes, 61 
 
WELAKA -- Myles Kirby Sykes, 61, a retiree of Florida Department of Agriculture, died Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2002.

A native of Island Grove, he was a longtime resident of Hawthorne. Mr. Sykes was a member of First Baptist Church of Fruitland Park.

Survivors include his wife of 22 years, Annette Sykes, Welaka; son, Ronald Cummings, Crescent City; stepson, Donald Squires, Crescent City; daughters, Teresa Neves, Lady Lake, Melanie Kintzler, Oakfield, Wis., and Crystal Cummings, Wildwood; brothers, Thomas Sykes, Ocala, William Sykes, Opelika, Ala., and James Sykes, Marianna; sisters, Margie Boles, Gainesville, Berniece Woodward, Micanopy, Frances Coullette, Jacksonville, Glenda Miller, Texas and Cora Sue Price, Island Grove; 10 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 23, 2009, 06:22:16 PM
LISTEN to Timothy's 5-22-09 interview with Johnny Sheffield, father of Crystal Sheffiield (Haleigh Cummings' Biological Mother)

http://writeintoaction.com/COBRA.htm

My heart goes out even more so for little Haleigh after listening to this. It feels as if my heart is just a heavy 2x4 right now.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mymonkey on May 23, 2009, 06:23:39 PM
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=ROOT_CATEGORY&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=ms_f-2&gsfn=+Annette&gsln=welfenberg&msbpn=12&msbpn__ftp=Florida%2C+USA&msdpn=12&msdpn__ftp=Florida%2C+USA

I hope this link comes through...I am digging..Why are we going back to Texas to search?

I did find a Sykes / Belcher gravestone on Ancestry.com (pictures) in Texas

"Bobbi Louise Squires" was born in Harris, Texas to Joe Stephen Squires
"Teresa Ann ette Squires" was born in Dallas, Texas to Joe Stephen Squires.


IMO
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I found a different in Florida "Bobbi Squires" on findagrave.com she was born (I think) 1928, a relative? IMO

Could be the mom.. I thing Grandma is about the same age I am, so her Mom would have been born about that time.  My Mother was born in 1930..  Why research in Texas..  I took a break from my Genealogy Research.. Researching John Stewart Roberts to come over and Research and Find Haleigh.. When we have her home.. I go back to tearing Texas files apart... Lots to tear apart..

Remember Ron took the children to Texas when he took the children from Crystal.
Who does Ron know in Texas??? Was it a family member he was visiting? ::MonkeyTongue::

Good catch,  I remember Crystal saying he was going to Mexico on vacation and had to stop in Tex. to work,made me wonder if your on vacation why would you not have money with you, so maybe Ron was going to hide the kids in Texas..from Crystal.ugh ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 23, 2009, 06:27:04 PM
I like to please make something I said clear, it is "World War 11 Draft Registration Cards, great information, it has nothing do with this case, but, if ever you wish to connect more dots, they are the best for the next of kin, address, color of eyes, hair, height, etc.  All military records are great because they are accurate.


Seahorse


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 23, 2009, 06:29:12 PM
Good afternoon,


I haven't heard from grama.


"Glenda Miller, Texas", Myles K. Sykes, daughter? listed, below on Mr.Sykes obit.

I found it curious that "Katrina Sykes, Belcher, Branham ,Arbuckle",  Arkansaw was on one search and not again on any others. IMO


Seahorse

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Deceased Name: Myles K. Sykes, 61 
 
WELAKA -- Myles Kirby Sykes, 61, a retiree of Florida Department of Agriculture, died Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2002.

A native of Island Grove, he was a longtime resident of Hawthorne. Mr. Sykes was a member of First Baptist Church of Fruitland Park.

Survivors include his wife of 22 years, Annette Sykes, Welaka; son, Ronald Cummings, Crescent City; stepson, Donald Squires, Crescent City; daughters, Teresa Neves, Lady Lake, Melanie Kintzler, Oakfield, Wis., and Crystal Cummings, Wildwood; brothers, Thomas Sykes, Ocala, William Sykes, Opelika, Ala., and James Sykes, Marianna; sisters, Margie Boles, Gainesville, Berniece Woodward, Micanopy, Frances Coullette, Jacksonville, Glenda Miller, Texas and Cora Sue Price, Island Grove; 10 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild.

    
Who's Who in the Haleigh Cummings Case

here: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4570.0


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 23, 2009, 06:42:11 PM
::MonkeyDance:: ANOTHER VERY QUICK EASY EMAIL FOR AMBER DUBOIS!! ::MonkeyDance::

Yes, I am asking for everyone to please help again in getting the word out today.  I want to swamp the media with requests each day until they get her name out there and to the viewers.  She needs some coverage as she has not had any mainstream focus as of yet. 
TIA


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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 23, 2009, 07:19:46 PM
(http://image.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/kim-picazio(1).jpg)
(http://image.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/19538253_179X240(1).jpg)


Hear the audio of ‘Cobra’ and Kim Picazio below:


http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m5d23-Audio-Cobra-bails-out-blames-Haleigh-Cummings-moms-attorney-for-his-arrest-Picazio-responds


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 23, 2009, 08:33:24 PM
Quote from Cobra on this interview.. really grabbed me real fast.. Cobra was repeating a comment that kim made, after she had told him to shut up, "your going to cause us to lose this custody fight, your gonna cost my client to lose both these kids."


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 23, 2009, 08:55:41 PM
Quote from Cobra on this interview.. really grabbed me real fast.. Cobra was repeating a comment that kim made, after she had told him to shut up, "your going to cause us to lose this custody fight, your gonna cost my client to lose both these kids."
I dont get it...what stands out about that to you?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 23, 2009, 09:03:53 PM
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=ROOT_CATEGORY&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=ms_f-2&gsfn=+Annette&gsln=welfenberg&msbpn=12&msbpn__ftp=Florida%2C+USA&msdpn=12&msdpn__ftp=Florida%2C+USA

I hope this link comes through...I am digging..Why are we going back to Texas to search?

I did find a Sykes / Belcher gravestone on Ancestry.com (pictures) in Texas

"Bobbi Louise Squires" was born in Harris, Texas to Joe Stephen Squires
"Teresa Ann ette Squires" was born in Dallas, Texas to Joe Stephen Squires.


IMO
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I found a different in Florida "Bobbi Squires" on findagrave.com she was born (I think) 1928, a relative? IMO

Could be the mom.. I thing Grandma is about the same age I am, so her Mom would have been born about that time.  My Mother was born in 1930..  Why research in Texas..  I took a break from my Genealogy Research.. Researching John Stewart Roberts to come over and Research and Find Haleigh.. When we have her home.. I go back to tearing Texas files apart... Lots to tear apart..
[/quote



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http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=harzed&id=I23287



He divorced Dorothy 18 Dec 1879
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ID: I23287
Name: Robert Bing Welfenberg
Sex: M
Birth: 11 AUG 1942
Death: 27 JUL 2007
Note:
Florida Divorce Index, 1927-2001
Name: Robert B Welfenberg
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Dorothy
Divorce Date: 18 Dec 1979
County: Putnam
Certificate Number: 069137

Florida Marriage Collection, 1822-1875 and 1927-2001
Name: Robert Bing Welfenberg
Name: Donna Eugena Dearing
Marriage Date: 13 Feb 1999
County of Marriage: Putnam
Gender: Male
Race: White
Certificate: 010352
Source: Florida Department of Health

Social Security Death Index
Name: Robert B. Welfenberg
SSN: 493-44-9391
Last Residence: 32177 Palatka, Putnam, Florida
Born: 11 Aug 1942
Died: 27 Jul 2007
State (Year) SSN issued: Missouri (1957-1958 )





Father: Walter Welfenberg b: 9 APR 1921 in St Louis County, Missouri
Mother: Angela G McLaughlin b: 12 FEB 1921

Marriage 1 Living Stallings

Marriage 2 Living Dearing






Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 23, 2009, 09:14:10 PM
This one pertains to Grandma Sykes..

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/248807-1.jpg)
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Hi Mlee,

With all you hot information I kept digging and here we are!!  Dorothy Annette Welfensberg was divorced on
18 Dec 1979. IMO. I hope I have all my monkeys a row.  Do I have this right? Thank-you.  Seahorse
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ID: I23287
Name: Robert Bing Welfenberg
Sex: M
Birth: 11 AUG 1942
Death: 27 JUL 2007
Note:
Florida Divorce Index, 1927-2001
Name: Robert B Welfenberg
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Dorothy
Divorce Date: 18 Dec 1979
County: Putnam
Certificate Number: 069137

Florida Marriage Collection, 1822-1875 and 1927-2001
Name: Robert Bing Welfenberg
Name: Donna Eugena Dearing
Marriage Date: 13 Feb 1999
County of Marriage: Putnam
Gender: Male
Race: White
Certificate: 010352
Source: Florida Department of Health

Social Security Death Index
Name: Robert B. Welfenberg
SSN: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Last Residence: 32177 Palatka, Putnam, Florida
Born: 11 Aug 1942
Died: 27 Jul 2007
State (Year) SSN issued: Missouri (1957-1958 )





Father: Walter Welfenberg b: 9 APR 1921 in St Louis County, Missouri
Mother: Angela G McLaughlin b: 12 FEB 1921

Marriage 1 Living Stallings

Marriage 2 Living Dearing

Edit to remove ssn



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 23, 2009, 09:23:23 PM
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=harzed&id=I23287

The above link is for my last post:)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: MuffyBee on May 23, 2009, 09:35:42 PM
Please don't post anyone's social security number. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 23, 2009, 10:24:52 PM
Hi Muffybee..

I want to wish you a happy and relax Memorial Day... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: MuffyBee on May 23, 2009, 10:28:52 PM
Hi JG  :smt006

I keep hoping with each day, Haleigh will be found. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 23, 2009, 10:35:02 PM
Hi Muffybee..

I want to wish you a happy and relax Memorial Day... ::MonkeyTongue::

A Happy and relaxed Memorial Day to all the Monkeys!!

And wishing a soon safe return of Haleigh!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 23, 2009, 10:39:21 PM
Hi Muffybee..

I want to wish you a happy and relax Memorial Day... ::MonkeyTongue::

I add to the wish.. rest this weekend, next week might be a busy week.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: lady on May 23, 2009, 11:23:04 PM
Quote from Cobra on this interview.. really grabbed me real fast.. Cobra was repeating a comment that kim made, after she had told him to shut up, "your going to cause us to lose this custody fight, your gonna cost my client to lose both these kids."
I dont know who to believe anymore...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 23, 2009, 11:27:14 PM
Just Thinking Outloud.... I haven't heard or read any where about the comment about losing custody of both kids...... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 23, 2009, 11:31:21 PM
Just Thinking Outloud.... I haven't heard or read any where about the comment about losing custody of both kids...... ::MonkeyTongue::

It is said only on the interview with Cobra.. You need the link?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 23, 2009, 11:36:32 PM
Just Thinking Outloud.... I haven't heard or read any where about the comment about losing custody of both kids...... ::MonkeyTongue::

It is said only on the interview with Cobra.. You need the link?

Yep... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 23, 2009, 11:43:34 PM
Cookie, I know your not online right now, but hope you see this.

Do you remember when this was on HLN's and we both responded here about it?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4610.1640

You posted:

    
Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #3
« Reply #1656 on: March 03, 2009, 06:28:39 PM »
   
Capt. on HLN says that no one has been ruled out...also says that Haleigh was seen in the evening by a neighbor...Ron had gotten Haleigh off of the bus...getting tips from psychics....brick that was holding door is still being tested....


I posted:

    
Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #3
« Reply #1658 on: March 03, 2009, 06:30:57 PM »
   
Someone from LE just stated on HLNs that a neighbor saw Haleigh in late evening. Didn't say exactly what time.

Also he said that father got Haleigh off the school bus.

He said NO ONE has been cleared so far.

Anyone else hear this?

OS


The reason I am asking, I have searched online to try and find the video or transcript, wondering if you might have a copy.

I sent an email to HLN's and got this response:

Thank you for contacting HLN. Please contact Cision Video Monitoring Service at 866-639-5087 for footage of CNN programming. Cision is a company not affiliated with CNN. Transcripts of our shows and news segments are available at no charge on our Web site at www.CNN.com/transcripts.

I thought I would ask you before I call. The transcript is not online that I can find.

Thank you,

OS



I found this JVM transcript from March 3, 2009
Not sure if it is what your looking for.
http://tr.truveo.com/croslin-family-speaks/id/1346972614

In it it mentions a cummings neighbor and police got a tip about his doorbell (which he says he doesn't have), His name is Marty Hubbard and on Art's article about snodgrass wanting to donate to the haleigh bug it said that when snodgrass was confronted about being a SO he called out to his friend MARTY to call the police.
I wonder if the two marty's could be one in the same???

Also A door bell that rings like a grandfather clock...Could it be a ringtone for a cell phone??
I think you put the wrong link
also I have no clue what you are talking about a doorbell but i will go read it on arts site I guess....
anyways I know for a fact that a good 80% of remote doorbells.. Like the removable kind where you stick the buzzer outside and the noise maker inside with no wires involved... they all sound like a grandfather clock I know because we had to buy one and I returned 5 different brands because i hated the sound of it

OS....I remember when we  both saw and posted this at the same time...
what are you thinking?
good to see you by the way...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 23, 2009, 11:53:45 PM
Just Thinking Outloud.... I haven't heard or read any where about the comment about losing custody of both kids...... ::MonkeyTongue::

It is said only on the interview with Cobra.. You need the link?

Yep... ::MonkeyTongue::

http://writeintoaction.com/COBRA.htm


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: lady on May 24, 2009, 12:00:11 AM
Just Thinking Outloud.... I haven't heard or read any where about the comment about losing custody of both kids...... ::MonkeyTongue::

It is said only on the interview with Cobra.. You need the link?

Yep... ::MonkeyTongue::

http://writeintoaction.com/COBRA.htm
I seen this but its just what Cobra says was said...Is there a taped convo where we can actually hear Kim tell him this?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 24, 2009, 12:04:14 AM
Just Thinking Outloud.... I haven't heard or read any where about the comment about losing custody of both kids...... ::MonkeyTongue::

It is said only on the interview with Cobra.. You need the link?

Yep... ::MonkeyTongue::
No,   its easy to say someone said something....  I dont know!

http://writeintoaction.com/COBRA.htm
I seen this but its just what Cobra says was said...Is there a taped convo where we can actually hear Kim tell him this?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: lady on May 24, 2009, 12:09:28 AM
Just Thinking Outloud.... I haven't heard or read any where about the comment about losing custody of both kids...... ::MonkeyTongue::

It is said only on the interview with Cobra.. You need the link?

Yep... ::MonkeyTongue::
No,   its easy to say someone said something....  I dont know!

http://writeintoaction.com/COBRA.htm
I seen this but its just what Cobra says was said...Is there a taped convo where we can actually hear Kim tell him this?
ok I cant go on just that..I dont pay attention to that he said she said crap so I guess till I hear other proof I will stay nuetral..Im not saying I dont believe Cobra though just too much shady business going on..imo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 24, 2009, 12:15:33 AM
Just Thinking Outloud.... I haven't heard or read any where about the comment about losing custody of both kids...... ::MonkeyTongue::

It is said only on the interview with Cobra.. You need the link?

Yep... ::MonkeyTongue::
No,   its easy to say someone said something....  I dont know!

http://writeintoaction.com/COBRA.htm
I seen this but its just what Cobra says was said...Is there a taped convo where we can actually hear Kim tell him this?
ok I cant go on just that..I dont pay attention to that he said she said crap so I guess till I hear other proof I will stay nuetral..Im not saying I dont believe Cobra though just too much shady business going on..imo
me either....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 24, 2009, 12:55:46 AM
Well.. I listen to the interview 7 times and I did not hear the word kids but kid no pluerals.. also refered to as little youngin , jr ..JMO.. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 24, 2009, 01:07:21 AM
Well.. I listen to the interview 7 times and I did not hear the word kids but kid no pluerals.. also refered to as little youngin , jr ..JMO.. ::MonkeyTongue::

Sorry that was Johnny interview...

Now Cobra interview... Listen to it 4 times .. lose custody of the kid not kids..... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 24, 2009, 02:28:50 AM
I was out for most the day and when I come home the first thing I did was come to see if there were any news on the Haleigh case.
As sad as I am to hear more about what happened behind the scenes as to what led up to Cobra's arrest, I do realized that as ugly as it is, it is all a part of what goes on with the people who are most closely involved with this case and yes it is pertinent information.
I have seen enough to know that this whole case has turned into a politically motivated free for all and Cobra is probably spot on when he says that NO ONE has clean hands.
This is pathetic on the part of any and all people have been and are continuing to exploit this little child's abduction.
Finding Haleigh is not the single motivating factor for some of these people and it makes me violently sick!

~WHERE IS LITTLE HALEIGH~!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 24, 2009, 02:46:59 AM
Let me get this correct here...So the same firm that is now denying that they gave Cobra the go ahead to process Snodgrass are also known to commit unlawful acts such as, hiring Samuel E. Hightower as a bondsmen when they knew full well that it was against the law to do any suchathing considering that Hightower was a felon?
And those people at C.E. Parish not only expect but demand that LE take their words as truth????
Is that correct?
Because that is what I understood after hearing the Cobra interview.

If all of this information from Cobra is true and correct, and I believe that it is, then a whole lotta change needs to come rolling through.
This is a HUGE black eye for the entire state of Florida.
All these shiesty characters freely and willfully manipulating the system for their own personal gain and all the while a beautiful little girl is missing.

~WHERE IS LITTLE HALEIGH~???????
 
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: lady on May 24, 2009, 09:42:34 AM
It is all very confusing to me..I just usually sit here and read but then once in awhile I get mad and I have to say something..All along I been thinking Crystal is the victim in this and now the last couple weeks Im not so sure..I mean sure everyone has skeletons in there closet no doubt and when you are involved in something this big be prepared stuff is gonna get dug up and come out about you..All along with these seisures (sp) that Crystal has been having, and they keep saying they dont know why she is having them well right away I thought her medicine thats shes taking is not working together so to speak for her..You cant mix certain meds as most people know..So im beginning to believe now that I heard Cobra say shes mixing Zannys and Loritabs together its starting to make sence...Now thats what I think hes talking about when he says noone has clean hands..Okay then I understand Kim is her lawyer and we all know lawyers work for there clients and will stretch the truth so to speak to win the case for thier client. So at this point I guess im saying im leaning to Cobra more on this after he said Kim told him hes gonna end up costing her client custody..Well IMO if shes mixing drugs like that then I believe she should get help before it bites her in the ass..She cant take care of her babies if shes having seizures and what not..Them babies depend on her to live..If she has another accident and they are with her she may lose them forever..This of course is just my opinion..To Crystal I would say clean your act up or lose your babies..I dont have any sympathy for people that put themselves before thier children..Im thinking maybe neither party deserve to have those kids..Sad to say because I believe children need thier mother but if thier mother is gonna put them behind themselves then they dont deserve to have them..I know this may sound mean towards Crystal but its really not meant to be that way..Its just MOI


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 24, 2009, 10:09:32 AM
Good Morning, I've caught up, and frankly don't know what to think, besides it is a huge mess. Maybe all these people, Cobra, Kim, TJ Hart and Art Harris need to go home and let LE do their work, I don't see how any of this is helping getting to the bottom of what happened to Haleigh. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: melisb on May 24, 2009, 11:44:41 AM
 ::MonkeyWink::Mornin' beautiful Monkey Minds,  will lurk back later!  I have one of my questions again (being computer and texting illiterate) but what does iirc mean?  Have a wonderful holiday!  Relax by yourself or surrounded with family, you all deserve it.  My hubby, son and I invite you all to a wonderful southern cookout.  Gotta go get ready for today and tomorrow.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 24, 2009, 11:45:33 AM
Good Morning, I've caught up, and frankly don't know what to think, besides it is a huge mess. Maybe all these people, Cobra, Kim, TJ Hart and Art Harris need to go home and let LE do their work, I don't see how any of this is helping getting to the bottom of what happened to Haleigh. ::MonkeyNoNo::

It's not.. but the entire show in Satsuma seems like its begining to completely fall apart.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 24, 2009, 11:50:57 AM
Good Morning, I've caught up, and frankly don't know what to think, besides it is a huge mess. Maybe all these people, Cobra, Kim, TJ Hart and Art Harris need to go home and let LE do their work, I don't see how any of this is helping getting to the bottom of what happened to Haleigh. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Good Morning Monkeys ~

I am with you NRCG... little miffed by what has been happening the past few days and what has surfaced....as far as the cast of characters. If the cast are bringing forth some inforamtion that will help this town and uncover some untruths, hidden, or corrupt happenings, that is for the best.  I know it may not be bringing Haleigh home, but this town does appear to need a good scrubbing and if the cast is helping...good for them.  It is obvious that some of these happenings are having a bearing on the reason that Haleigh went missing in the first place...JMO......  If they are making some progress and hopefully leading to Haleigh....or like you said, pack up and go home, if it will help find her.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 24, 2009, 12:04:40 PM
Good Morning, I've caught up, and frankly don't know what to think, besides it is a huge mess. Maybe all these people, Cobra, Kim, TJ Hart and Art Harris need to go home and let LE do their work, I don't see how any of this is helping getting to the bottom of what happened to Haleigh. ::MonkeyNoNo::

It's not.. but the entire show in Satsuma seems like its begining to completely fall apart.
With that I completely agree with  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 24, 2009, 12:18:11 PM
Good Morning, I've caught up, and frankly don't know what to think, besides it is a huge mess. Maybe all these people, Cobra, Kim, TJ Hart and Art Harris need to go home and let LE do their work, I don't see how any of this is helping getting to the bottom of what happened to Haleigh. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Good Morning Monkeys ~

I am with you NRCG... little miffed by what has been happening the past few days and what has surfaced....as far as the cast of characters. If the cast are bringing forth some inforamtion that will help this town and uncover some untruths, hidden, or corrupt happenings, that is for the best.  I know it may not be bringing Haleigh home, but this town does appear to need a good scrubbing and if the cast is helping...good for them.  It is obvious that some of these happenings are having a bearing on the reason that Haleigh went missing in the first place...JMO......  If they are making some progress and hopefully leading to Haleigh....or like you said, pack up and go home, if it will help find her.
I'm just afraid things were botched up from the beginning, and valuable info or searching wasn't done, and this little one has to suffer because of it. And this town sure does need a good scrubbing. I come from a town about the same size, and while it has some problems, nothing like this  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 24, 2009, 12:27:08 PM
Hi brave Monkeys,

I found a Glenda Sykes Miller, age 70,Texas.

http://www.peoplefinders.com/search/searchpreview.aspx? (scroll to # 27) Not positive if this is the sister, the names
glenda Sykes Miller are common. Her states don't match up with Florida, but, all the states aren't listed?
.

Deceased Name: Myles K. Sykes, 61 
 
WELAKA -- Myles Kirby Sykes, 61, a retiree of Florida Department of Agriculture, died Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2002.

A native of Island Grove, he was a longtime resident of Hawthorne. Mr. Sykes was a member of First Baptist Church of Fruitland Park.

Survivors include his wife of 22 years, Annette Sykes, Welaka; son, Ronald Cummings, Crescent City; stepson, Donald Squires, Crescent City; daughters, Teresa Neves, Lady Lake, Melanie Kintzler, Oakfield, Wis., and Crystal Cummings, Wildwood; brothers, Thomas Sykes, Ocala, William Sykes, Opelika, Ala., and James Sykes, Marianna; sisters, Margie Boles, Gainesville, Berniece Woodward, Micanopy, Frances Coullette, Jacksonville, Glenda Miller, Texas and Cora Sue Price, Island Grove; 10 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild.

Masters Funeral Home, Palatka, provided information.


I have also found a Glenda Miller on official public records, I would discount this one until verified because of the common name.

http://www.realestate.countyclerk.dallascounty.org/search.aspx?cabinet=opr

This is all for today,
Seahorse


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 24, 2009, 12:31:42 PM
::MonkeyWink::Mornin' beautiful Monkey Minds,  will lurk back later!  I have one of my questions again (being computer and texting illiterate) but what does iirc mean?  Have a wonderful holiday!  Relax by yourself or surrounded with family, you all deserve it.  My hubby, son and I invite you all to a wonderful southern cookout.  Gotta go get ready for today and tomorrow.
iirc (If I Recall Correctly) you have a wonderful holiday  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 24, 2009, 12:32:37 PM
Or is it, If I Remember Correctly, I'm sorry  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 24, 2009, 12:35:37 PM
Sorry, the link I posted didn't work after I posted it.
www. Peoplefinders.com  scroll to # 27



MILLER, GLENDA  SYKES
Age: 70

Associated names:
MILLER, GLENDA F
SMITH, GLENDA F
SMITH, GLENDA G
SMITH, GLENDA S

 FAIRVIEW, TX
CLARKSVILLE, TN
DALLAS, TX
MCKINNEY, TX
MC KINNEY, TX

  SMITH, JAMES  WAYNE (Age 59)
SMITH, MARTHA  GAIL (Age 46)
MILLER, PERRY  BRADLEY (Age 73)


MORRISON, MARTHA  E (Age 59)
SMITH, TAMATHA  ROCHEL (Age 45)
ELDRIDGE, ORETHA (Age 58)
 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 24, 2009, 01:20:56 PM
StraightTalk (Orange Park, FL) says:

Where's that audio, Hobbitt? Those two are also not all she's on. Lortabs are hydrocodones, and are highly addictive...and lethal when mixed. Kim knows what all she's on, and that's why she's quit pushing so hard on the Jr custody thing. One family member also says Kim caught them smoking dope at haleighbug one night and was livid.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35084

Her drug use is not past tense. Notice how Kim P's backed off helping her?? There's a reason for that. And that reason lies in her tox screens.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35081

Misssherriff (Saint Augustine, FL) says:

Evening folks,

Been busy and popping in on occasion to read a bit. I am not taking up or going against anyone, just viewing this entire picture and can't keep my fingers from typing....so here goes....

Can you all read between the lines on this latest news with Cobra?
First to remember....Cobra is a Licensed PI and sworn to tell the truth And to back it up (must keep written, oral, photo's and tapes) good, bad or indifferent and will not compromise his license for anyone or for any case to include abide by the law and report findings to law enforcement.
Yes, Cobra chooses to be seen in the media just like anyone else involved in this case. Haleigh was and is still in the forefront right?(as one poster said here, who cares where it came from as long as it is brought here.?..forget who that was)

Has anyone noticed that Kim P has done a complete 180 on the person (Cobra) whom She brought into this case to help find Haleigh?
Ya think Cobra may know or saw something in this case that he cannot keep secret for her client due to him sworn to uphold the law, good, bad or indifferent?

Just food for thought and All JMO.
(helmet is safely secured on my head ;)

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35136

hobbit55 says

KP did have something to do with Cobra's release being delayed.

Remember back when Cobra was asking for donations because he'd spent the last of his money on $600 bail for Nay Nay and Amber?

Well, he never paid that bail. The woman who issued the bond is still waiting for it. What's more, the reason she held up Cobra's bond was due to a call she got from KP in which Kim let her know she had given Cobra the $600 for Nay Nay and Ambers bond that Donna never got.

Cobra now says he thought it was "expense" money. Donna held his bond up until she got paid the $500 for this one.

According to Art Harris's article Donna was the one who did the bond for Nay Nay and Amber. That was $600 which wasn't paid.
Then she agreed to do the bond for Cobra, which was to be $500 (10% of the total bond). Donna did the bond and her assistant delivered Cobra and the paperwork to the jail. But they hadn't gotten the $500 yet.
Then she received call from Kim thanking her for bailing Nay Nay and Amber out. She mentioned to Kim she still hadn't been paid and that's when Kim informed her she had given Cobra the money to pay her.
That is when she called her assistant and told her to pull the bond until Cobra pays the $500.
Yes, a bondsman can refuse to issue a bond if you owe them money. They do not have to issue a bond. It is a risk doing so and they have the right to determine whether to take that risk.
After Cobra's girlfriend went and paid her the $500 she re-issued the bond. He still owes her the $600. Plus there was more. There was $300 for him to pick up a woman he never found plus an additional $100 for an informant to find her.
This is all in Arts article. http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-c...

According to the article and Donna, she didn't take it up with the Donna. She had called to thank Donna for bailing Nay Nay and Amber out and it was Donna that brought up not being paid for it. That's when Kim told her she'd given the money to Cobra to pay her. Kim didn't stop Cobra's bail, Donna did because she felt he had scammed her. Remember, he STILL owes her $1,000 after he paid the $500 for his own bond.

All Donna was doing was making sure she got her money up front for his bond.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-c...

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35182


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 24, 2009, 02:07:20 PM
Private Detectives and Investigators

http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos157.htm


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 24, 2009, 02:20:42 PM
In other Palatka, Florida news:

Mom charged in 5-week-old's death

By Kristin Chambers
Published: Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:05 AM EDT
A Palatka woman has been charged with second-degree murder after her 5-week-old baby was pronounced dead Thursday morning.

Shovan Lawson, 20, was arrested after authorities suspected the baby was harmed, Assistant Chief James Griffith of the Palatka Police Department said.

Police officers met emergency medical personnel at Lawson's home around 9:10 a.m. after receiving a call that 5-week-old Destiny Lawson was unresponsive.

The baby was transported to Putnam Community Medical Center, where she was pronounced dead at 9:40 a.m.

*
An autopsy is being conducted to determine the cause of death.

"Medical staff of PCMC said there was suspicion of foul play based on the appearance of the child," Griffith said.

Lawson was also the mother of a 5-month-old child who died in November.

"That case was investigated, an autopsy was performed on that child, and the medical examiner found no evidence to indicate foul play at that time," Griffith said.

Lawson was arrested Thursday based on the evidence collected and information gathered from her family.

She is being held at the Putnam County Jail without bond.

kchambers@palatkadailynews.com

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/05/24/news/news02.txt

(http://public.pcso.us/jail/adb.asp?IMG=30622)

SHOVAN  DAWNISE  LAWSON
PALATKA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/21/2009 5:09:29 PM  - Booking#: 09-02080
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 5/10/1989 -  RACE: B  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
782.04-2   HOMICIDE-WILLFUL KILL MURDER NOT PREMEDITATED NO FELONY OFFENSE   F   F    $0.00    
                $0.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754225&IMG=30622


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 24, 2009, 02:50:40 PM
I sit back and read this forum day in and day out, like so many other monkeys, who are so much more talented in bringing info here, than I could ever be. I am sick of the games and nonsense with the players in this case. I can only hope and pray that LE has a handle on this and it hasn't become a cold case. I just don't understand what is going on in this case, except I know a pretty little girl didn't vanish into thin air, and a little boy who I hope is being taken good care of.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 24, 2009, 03:15:22 PM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Animation17.gif)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: ospainter on May 24, 2009, 03:18:38 PM


OS....I remember when we  both saw and posted this at the same time...
what are you thinking?
good to see you by the way...

Hi Cookie

Nice to see you too.

I was just trying to find a video or transcript of the show, I wanted to see which Capt./LE it was, do you remember was it the White haired gentlemen? Capt. Shauland I believe is his name.

There is no video or transcript for that show online and. Sure glad you saw it too. I was going to order it, but it really isn't necessary for me because both you and I saw it.

OS



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: little lulu on May 24, 2009, 03:37:33 PM
What a mess of everything. Cobra, Kim, Art, the Bail Bonds...it's all such a mess.  I had written someone and asked if the FBI was still on this case, his answer was yes....but now I just don't believe it at all. 
I think they are gone..and LE has NOTHING new and are sitting and waiting for someone to slip up, otherwise, it's going cold. 
It amazes me the difference between this and the Anthony case,  seems like there was something new all the time going on with Casey...but this silence is DEAFENING.
My stomach is in knots after reading all about Cobra and Kim..That's all we have right now...and it's just not enough.  I wonder if we all took our picket signs and stood outside of the Sheriffs office...would it help.

I truly believe Cobra's heart was in the right place, now this case has taken him over....he is out of Money, and still no Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: little lulu on May 24, 2009, 03:38:54 PM
Oh...and Brandi, I love your latest creation. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 24, 2009, 03:40:09 PM
What a mess of everything. Cobra, Kim, Art, the Bail Bonds...it's all such a mess.  I had written someone and asked if the FBI was still on this case, his answer was yes....but now I just don't believe it at all. 
I think they are gone..and LE has NOTHING new and are sitting and waiting for someone to slip up, otherwise, it's going cold. 
It amazes me the difference between this and the Anthony case,  seems like there was something new all the time going on with Casey...but this silence is DEAFENING.
My stomach is in knots after reading all about Cobra and Kim..That's all we have right now...and it's just not enough.  I wonder if we all took our picket signs and stood outside of the Sheriffs office...would it help.

I truly believe Cobra's heart was in the right place, now this case has taken him over....he is out of Money, and still no Haleigh.
Yes, and I have to say I don't trust anyone in this case anymore  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I do hope LE knows what they are doing.   Brandi, lovely pic of Haleigh.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: melisb on May 24, 2009, 03:42:14 PM
::MonkeyWink::Mornin' beautiful Monkey Minds,  will lurk back later!  I have one of my questions again (being computer and texting illiterate) but what does iirc mean?  Have a wonderful holiday!  Relax by yourself or surrounded with family, you all deserve it.  My hubby, son and I invite you all to a wonderful southern cookout.  Gotta go get ready for today and tomorrow.
iirc (If I Recall Correctly) you have a wonderful holiday  ::MonkeyAngel::
::cartwheel:: Thank you so much!  First time using quote so I probably inserted and typed wrong so if it's jumbled I apologize.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 24, 2009, 03:44:10 PM
I sit back and read this forum day in and day out, like so many other monkeys, who are so much more talented in bringing info here, than I could ever be. I am sick of the games and nonsense with the players in this case. I can only hope and pray that LE has a handle on this and it hasn't become a cold case. I just don't understand what is going on in this case, except I know a pretty little girl didn't vanish into thin air, and a little boy who I hope is being taken good care of.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

no rose this has been a case like none other that I have seen before.  It has been my opinion and only my opinion that the outsiders that have stepped into this case were/are way out of line.  As much as I want to be in the know of what is going on in the case, the outsiders have been too involved and loose lipped as far as I am concerned.

Some statements made and some not spoken by Cobra and Art regarding Misty and Ron have me wondering at times,  just what are their opinions are, what do they actually know about Ron and Misty's involvement or non-involvement in the disappearance of Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 24, 2009, 04:06:07 PM
I sit back and read this forum day in and day out, like so many other monkeys, who are so much more talented in bringing info here, than I could ever be. I am sick of the games and nonsense with the players in this case. I can only hope and pray that LE has a handle on this and it hasn't become a cold case. I just don't understand what is going on in this case, except I know a pretty little girl didn't vanish into thin air, and a little boy who I hope is being taken good care of.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

no rose this has been a case like none other that I have seen before.  It has been my opinion and only my opinion that the outsiders that have stepped into this case were/are way out of line.  As much as I want to be in the know of what is going on in the case, the outsiders have been too involved and loose lipped as far as I am concerned.

Some statements made and some not spoken by Cobra and Art regarding Misty and Ron have me wondering at times,  just what are their opinions are, what do they actually know about Ron and Misty's involvement or non-involvement in the disappearance of Haleigh.

I so much agree with both of you.

I only started following missing persons when Caylee's case came to the media. Then I followed this case. I am not a veteran mp follower. Maybe this is what happens when the case runs cold. I dunno. Is Haleigh's case a cold case?

I am heartbroken and beyond frustrated with all of the players in this case that we have picked apart, not knowing how they might be involved. It makes me dizzy.

And I am still frustrated with rumor vs fact in this case.

It's just heartbreaking on so many levels.

However, without any proof otherwise, I remain hopeful and believe Haleigh is alive. Somewhere.





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mymonkey on May 24, 2009, 04:20:53 PM
I think it has turned into a Jerry Springer show, and Haleigh is not the important one now, its out of control and everyone in Satsuma should be ashamed. ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 24, 2009, 04:37:10 PM
I sit back and read this forum day in and day out, like so many other monkeys, who are so much more talented in bringing info here, than I could ever be. I am sick of the games and nonsense with the players in this case. I can only hope and pray that LE has a handle on this and it hasn't become a cold case. I just don't understand what is going on in this case, except I know a pretty little girl didn't vanish into thin air, and a little boy who I hope is being taken good care of.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

no rose this has been a case like none other that I have seen before.  It has been my opinion and only my opinion that the outsiders that have stepped into this case were/are way out of line.  As much as I want to be in the know of what is going on in the case, the outsiders have been too involved and loose lipped as far as I am concerned.

Some statements made and some not spoken by Cobra and Art regarding Misty and Ron have me wondering at times,  just what are their opinions are, what do they actually know about Ron and Misty's involvement or non-involvement in the disappearance of Haleigh.

I so much agree with both of you.

I only started following missing persons when Caylee's case came to the media. Then I followed this case. I am not a veteran mp follower. Maybe this is what happens when the case runs cold. I dunno. Is Haleigh's case a cold case?

I am heartbroken and beyond frustrated with all of the players in this case that we have picked apart, not knowing how they might be involved. It makes me dizzy.

And I am still frustrated with rumor vs fact in this case.

It's just heartbreaking on so many levels.

However, without any proof otherwise, I remain hopeful and believe Haleigh is alive. Somewhere.

Hi there Brandi!   Good to see you,  hope your weekend is an enjoyable one!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 24, 2009, 04:40:13 PM
It's good to see you all again. I missed you. Thanks for your kindness.

Sorry for the O/T .. just thought it'd be better to say this once, rather than thank each person for their greetings. ;-)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 24, 2009, 04:44:54 PM
I think it has turned into a Jerry Springer show, and Haleigh is not the important one now, its out of control and everyone in Satsuma should be ashamed. ::MonkeyWaa::

I agree, and what is left of the search for Haleigh is:  what Cobra may continue to do..  The public trying to stay updated through the Media.  And whatever the Le has on the back burner..... And that's it...   Unless, someone who has information comes forward, or there is an absolute sighting of Haleigh....  LE has made the statement that Cobra never found or updated them with any new information they didn't already have.  So, I guess that means Le has everything that is out there and still has nothing on the facts of Haleigh gone missing.  I think its over.  Am I surprised, no, I expected this from the little mystery game last week on BNN.  It certainly will not do us any good to take side, not going to resolve anything. It is as it is now.  This thing could be debated here and everywhere for years, without a resolve.  We will never learn the complete truth.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: little lulu on May 24, 2009, 04:57:51 PM
I think it has turned into a Jerry Springer show, and Haleigh is not the important one now, its out of control and everyone in Satsuma should be ashamed. ::MonkeyWaa::

Exactly...You are right,  EVERYONE is Satsuma, all the players in this case,  LE....everyone should be ashamed.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 24, 2009, 05:19:57 PM
Misssherriff (Saint Augustine, FL ) says:


FYI: earlier in this live show, Cobra has the tape recordings from the Snodgrass bailbondsman from Valentine.

Guess we have to wait until Simon lists the interview recoding later, I missed it but got an email stating Cobra has backed up his claims.

Only speculation until hearing the entire show.

Prayers for Haleigh!

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35284


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 24, 2009, 05:43:06 PM
It's good to see you all again. I missed you. Thanks for your kindness.

Sorry for the O/T .. just thought it'd be better to say this once, rather than thank each person for their greetings. ;-)
I have followed so many cases, Caylee's has been like nothing I have ever seen, ever. Haleigh's case is a close second, I am thoroughly disgusted, Haleigh has been lost in all this, at least that is how it feels. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: lady on May 24, 2009, 05:44:29 PM
Misssherriff (Saint Augustine, FL ) says:


FYI: earlier in this live show, Cobra has the tape recordings from the Snodgrass bailbondsman from Valentine.

Guess we have to wait until Simon lists the interview recoding later, I missed it but got an email stating Cobra has backed up his claims.

Only speculation until hearing the entire show.

Prayers for Haleigh!

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35284
Yes i listened to the interview..Cobra stated he was wearing a wire ..He busted a bail bondsmen from Jacksonville lieing ..And told him he was wearing a wire the hole time.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 24, 2009, 05:44:36 PM
I think it has turned into a Jerry Springer show, and Haleigh is not the important one now, its out of control and everyone in Satsuma should be ashamed. ::MonkeyWaa::

I agree, and what is left of the search for Haleigh is:  what Cobra may continue to do..  The public trying to stay updated through the Media.  And whatever the Le has on the back burner..... And that's it...   Unless, someone who has information comes forward, or there is an absolute sighting of Haleigh....  LE has made the statement that Cobra never found or updated them with any new information they didn't already have.  So, I guess that means Le has everything that is out there and still has nothing on the facts of Haleigh gone missing.  I think its over.  Am I surprised, no, I expected this from the little mystery game last week on BNN.  It certainly will not do us any good to take side, not going to resolve anything. It is as it is now.  This thing could be debated here and everywhere for years, without a resolve.  We will never learn the complete truth.
I agree.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 24, 2009, 06:18:19 PM
I think it has turned into a Jerry Springer show, and Haleigh is not the important one now, its out of control and everyone in Satsuma should be ashamed. ::MonkeyWaa::

I agree, and what is left of the search for Haleigh is:  what Cobra may continue to do..  The public trying to stay updated through the Media.  And whatever the Le has on the back burner..... And that's it...   Unless, someone who has information comes forward, or there is an absolute sighting of Haleigh....  LE has made the statement that Cobra never found or updated them with any new information they didn't already have.  So, I guess that means Le has everything that is out there and still has nothing on the facts of Haleigh gone missing.  I think its over.  Am I surprised, no, I expected this from the little mystery game last week on BNN.  It certainly will not do us any good to take side, not going to resolve anything. It is as it is now.  This thing could be debated here and everywhere for years, without a resolve.  We will never learn the complete truth.
I agree.
It's sad to admit that I agree too. I heard Art Harris saying that the LE is more in tuned to that town than we all started to think and I have a glimmer of hope in hearing someone who is a seasoned investigative reporter come out and say it.
I also heard Cobra come out and say to the world that he can't be run off. That's the spirit my friend. When the going get's tuff then the tuff get's going. That don't mean that when things get tuff that they ever go away though and that is where people get confused. Cobra has gotten a chance to get in line with LE on this case and I am a believer that things happen for a reason. It is possible that with LE and Cobra being on the same page that there will be something good come out of all of this and Haleigh will be found.
I am praying every day that Haleigh will be found and that there will be justice in this case.
Let today be that day.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 24, 2009, 06:21:50 PM
Blog Radio is on the site.. Ms Pickles said..  "I'm NOT Drunk"..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 24, 2009, 06:22:23 PM

Bonded Out: Back at Home

Reported by: Céline McArthur

Email: cmcarthur@ActionNewsJax.com
Last Update: 5/20 6:47 pm


When you approach the Satsuma home where Daniel Snodgrass lives, it becomes clear you need to stay away. There's a no trespassing sign, a stop sign and caution tape.  What you don't know from the outside of his home, is that Daniel Snodgrass is accused of a violent crime against a child. Police say, Snodgrass tied a little girl to a bed and sexually assaulted her. He was arrested in 2007 and denied bond. Four months later, Judge Edward Hedstrom reversed that decision. 70 thousand dollars bond and a GPS ankle bracelet got Snodgrass out of jail and back in the community for more than a year, which makes some of his neighbors nervous, "to me, until you're proven guilty, you're still kind of scary. If you've been arrested for the crime, I don't think they can really arrest you unless they have some pretty good reasoning," explained neighbor, Katie Pate.

        "The justice system says you're innocent until proven guilty." FDLE's special agent in charge, Dominick Pape, says that's the rationale for bond and a judge can only deny you bond if they find you a threat to the community or a serious flight risk. This raises questions about Snodgrass. Action News Celine McArthur called Judge Hedstrom to find out why he didn't find Snodgrass a threat. He wasn't able to speak with us.

        In the mean time, Action News learned Snodgrass is not alone. The department of justice studied the pre-trial release system and in one year, found that 12 percent of people charged with murder and 52 percent of people charged with rape were let out before trial. About a third of those defendants were either re-arrested for a new offense, failed to appear in court or committed another pre-trial violation.

        Armed with this information Action News went to the Putnam County courthouse. Celine McArthur, tried to speak with the judge and to the assistant state attorney's that work out of the courthouse, none of them would speak. They did however give Action News a number for a public information officer out of Daytona. That information officer couldn't get us answers either.
         
        Answers, Diane Hildreth, a mother who lives right down the street from Snodgrass wants to hear, "if they're going to bond them out, they obviously have a reason to do so, so why not tell us?"
You won't be able to find out if anyone else in your neighborhood is charged with a violent crime. Local police departments, including Putnam County and JSO don't track them unless a judge asks them to in a specific case.

        That's something Katie Pate wants changed, so that she can protect her family, "If you see the car, get inside. If you see the person around, get inside. If you notice any suspicious activity going around in that house, report it because you never know what's going on. Things happen in this world, it's pretty much gone crazy."

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Bonded-Out-Back-at-Home/VdJgIp0gl0KfJ6KZfcE9Tg.cspx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 24, 2009, 06:26:24 PM
Misssherriff (Saint Augustine, FL ) says:


FYI: earlier in this live show, Cobra has the tape recordings from the Snodgrass bailbondsman from Valentine.

Guess we have to wait until Simon lists the interview recoding later, I missed it but got an email stating Cobra has backed up his claims.

Only speculation until hearing the entire show.

Prayers for Haleigh!

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35284
Yes i listened to the interview..Cobra stated he was wearing a wire ..He busted a bail bondsmen from Jacksonville lieing ..And told him he was wearing a wire the hole time.

Thanks lady!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: lady on May 24, 2009, 06:48:10 PM
Misssherriff (Saint Augustine, FL ) says:


FYI: earlier in this live show, Cobra has the tape recordings from the Snodgrass bailbondsman from Valentine.

Guess we have to wait until Simon lists the interview recoding later, I missed it but got an email stating Cobra has backed up his claims.

Only speculation until hearing the entire show.

Prayers for Haleigh!

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35284
Yes i listened to the interview..Cobra stated he was wearing a wire ..He busted a bail bondsmen from Jacksonville lieing ..And told him he was wearing a wire the hole time.

Thanks lady!
Anything for a monkey ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: lady on May 24, 2009, 06:53:37 PM

Bonded Out: Back at Home

Reported by: Céline McArthur

Email: cmcarthur@ActionNewsJax.com
Last Update: 5/20 6:47 pm


When you approach the Satsuma home where Daniel Snodgrass lives, it becomes clear you need to stay away. There's a no trespassing sign, a stop sign and caution tape.  What you don't know from the outside of his home, is that Daniel Snodgrass is accused of a violent crime against a child. Police say, Snodgrass tied a little girl to a bed and sexually assaulted her. He was arrested in 2007 and denied bond. Four months later, Judge Edward Hedstrom reversed that decision. 70 thousand dollars bond and a GPS ankle bracelet got Snodgrass out of jail and back in the community for more than a year, which makes some of his neighbors nervous, "to me, until you're proven guilty, you're still kind of scary. If you've been arrested for the crime, I don't think they can really arrest you unless they have some pretty good reasoning," explained neighbor, Katie Pate.

        "The justice system says you're innocent until proven guilty." FDLE's special agent in charge, Dominick Pape, says that's the rationale for bond and a judge can only deny you bond if they find you a threat to the community or a serious flight risk. This raises questions about Snodgrass. Action News Celine McArthur called Judge Hedstrom to find out why he didn't find Snodgrass a threat. He wasn't able to speak with us.

        In the mean time, Action News learned Snodgrass is not alone. The department of justice studied the pre-trial release system and in one year, found that 12 percent of people charged with murder and 52 percent of people charged with rape were let out before trial. About a third of those defendants were either re-arrested for a new offense, failed to appear in court or committed another pre-trial violation.

        Armed with this information Action News went to the Putnam County courthouse. Celine McArthur, tried to speak with the judge and to the assistant state attorney's that work out of the courthouse, none of them would speak. They did however give Action News a number for a public information officer out of Daytona. That information officer couldn't get us answers either.
         
        Answers, Diane Hildreth, a mother who lives right down the street from Snodgrass wants to hear, "if they're going to bond them out, they obviously have a reason to do so, so why not tell us?"
You won't be able to find out if anyone else in your neighborhood is charged with a violent crime. Local police departments, including Putnam County and JSO don't track them unless a judge asks them to in a specific case.

        That's something Katie Pate wants changed, so that she can protect her family, "If you see the car, get inside. If you see the person around, get inside. If you notice any suspicious activity going around in that house, report it because you never know what's going on. Things happen in this world, it's pretty much gone crazy."

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Bonded-Out-Back-at-Home/VdJgIp0gl0KfJ6KZfcE9Tg.cspx
Must be a disease or something noone in that county can give any answers...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 24, 2009, 06:55:27 PM
How far is that lake away from ron's trailer..  there is an element that the ankle monitors dragging when near a body of water within about 1500 feet.  And they ask how far away does snodgrass live from that mobile home.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: lady on May 24, 2009, 07:01:20 PM
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: lady on May 24, 2009, 07:05:10 PM
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/05/24/Haleigh-Cummings-  sorry heres the one from today.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 24, 2009, 07:20:09 PM
Misssherriff (Saint Augustine, FL ) says:


FYI: earlier in this live show, Cobra has the tape recordings from the Snodgrass bailbondsman from Valentine.

Guess we have to wait until Simon lists the interview recoding later, I missed it but got an email stating Cobra has backed up his claims.

Only speculation until hearing the entire show.

Prayers for Haleigh!

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35284
Yes i listened to the interview..Cobra stated he was wearing a wire ..He busted a bail bondsmen from Jacksonville lieing ..And told him he was wearing a wire the hole time.

Cobra belives that Haleigh is alive and that some family members are hidding her.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 24, 2009, 07:24:48 PM
Misssherriff (Saint Augustine, FL ) says:


FYI: earlier in this live show, Cobra has the tape recordings from the Snodgrass bailbondsman from Valentine.

Guess we have to wait until Simon lists the interview recoding later, I missed it but got an email stating Cobra has backed up his claims.

Only speculation until hearing the entire show.

Prayers for Haleigh!

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35284
Yes i listened to the interview..Cobra stated he was wearing a wire ..He busted a bail bondsmen from Jacksonville lieing ..And told him he was wearing a wire the hole time.

Cobra belives that Haleigh is alive and that some family members are hidding her.

I heard the question about which family.. seemed like odd answers, I thought he directed it towards rons family, then corrected it and said he didn't say that  I have to go back and listen to that part again, just sure exactly what he was referring to.. no answer for motivation.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 24, 2009, 07:27:21 PM
Misssherriff (Saint Augustine, FL ) says:


FYI: earlier in this live show, Cobra has the tape recordings from the Snodgrass bailbondsman from Valentine.

Guess we have to wait until Simon lists the interview recoding later, I missed it but got an email stating Cobra has backed up his claims.

Only speculation until hearing the entire show.

Prayers for Haleigh!

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35284
Yes i listened to the interview..Cobra stated he was wearing a wire ..He busted a bail bondsmen from Jacksonville lieing ..And told him he was wearing a wire the hole time.

Cobra belives that Haleigh is alive and that some family members are hidding her.
I hope and pray that he is right. Haleigh needs to come home. Hopefully since Cobra and LE have had a more open line of communication then their combined efforts will lead to something significant that will solve this case once and for all.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Cappuccino on May 24, 2009, 07:28:59 PM
http://writeintoaction.com/COBRA.htm  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I've said it all along, these personal vendettas and/or custody battle has totally taken this case off its tracks - hellooo finding what happened to Haleigh should be the ONLY focus right now, the rest can be dealt with at the appropriate time.

I'm disgusted with ALL of the individuals surrounding this case on both sides & its neck deep - what happened here with Cobra is gonna bite them all in the bum, their error was trying to run him out of town to keep his mouth shut & attempting to ruin this man's livelihood & reputation, shameful.   You can bet he's gonna be more determined now, I can't say I approve of the approach but is it any wonder now why he has cameras rolling he cant trust anyone in this mess!   Now its clear why KP had to hire her own attorney, which I found to be a rather interesting development.  Say what you will about Ron but at least his attorneys are handling their end professionally & ethically.    Kim is just a snake in the grass grabbing onto this case for the media spotlight & she is not doing Crystal any favors.  If she did this & she had a history with Cobra & his ex-wife, shouldn't it beg the question what this woman would be willing to do or lie about to advance her agenda?  Ya know dirty secrets have a way of always rising to the top, the truth will prevail eventually but my main concern is that it is sadly probably too late for Haleigh's benefit & well being.  These adults involved should be ashamed of themselves for their past & present behavior, I'm amazed at the ignorance & depth of muck with the whole lot of them from both sides.   Can we not get back to what should be the only burning question:   Where is Haleigh?!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 24, 2009, 07:29:09 PM
Misssherriff (Saint Augustine, FL ) says:


FYI: earlier in this live show, Cobra has the tape recordings from the Snodgrass bailbondsman from Valentine.

Guess we have to wait until Simon lists the interview recoding later, I missed it but got an email stating Cobra has backed up his claims.

Only speculation until hearing the entire show.

Prayers for Haleigh!

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35284
Yes i listened to the interview..Cobra stated he was wearing a wire ..He busted a bail bondsmen from Jacksonville lieing ..And told him he was wearing a wire the hole time.

lady the bails bondman that called in was a bails bondman that post on NBB,  he at first claimed to be this bondsman by the name of Valentine that was on site at the take down of Snodgrass by Cobra wearing a wire. However the call-in bondsman admitted that he was not Valentine in the end after coming under questioning by Simon, Art and Cobra.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 24, 2009, 07:32:19 PM
Cobra stated that there was no man in black the night Haleigh went missing.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 24, 2009, 07:35:39 PM
Please don't post anyone's social security number. 

MuffyBee.

Thank-you for the reminder about ssn, that was a real error, it slipped my attention, will pay more attention to details.
Do you know what else GramaMonkey wants to be looked up,please? 

I found GGMA Sykes divorce 1978, she must have married Myles a year or two later. I would love to know where Donald Robert Squires, 1961, where he was born? We know Teresa Annette Squires was born in Dallas, Texas. It is a mystery of who "Betty Louise Squires" born Harris, TX.  Betty and Teresa father is Joe Stephen Squires. I think I found a Joe "Steven" Squires in Harris,TX. his father is the late Charlie W. Squire. I am going to wait if anyone has more information.  Are we sure that Joe Squires is dead or is it possible he is still living?  He is a big mystery. Not one of the Squires children have Joe Stephen Squires listed as a relative, I wonder if they didn't know him as a Dad. This whole family is scrambled eggs.

Curious, how old was Dorothy Annette Sykes, when she had Donald Robert Squires?  If we could find out what state Donald Robert Squires was born, maybe, it would give a clue to Joe Stephen Squire or Joe Steven Squires.

I may not have found the mystery relative in Texas, I posted earlier today the info.

God Bless,
Seahorse


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 24, 2009, 07:38:52 PM
Under investigation:  Art stated that the alledged Misty slapping Jr side his head at the doctors office is being investigated.

Chapter 39 of the Florida Statues.

http://www.flcourts.org/gen_public/family/bin/2005Chapter39.pdf


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 24, 2009, 07:46:34 PM
Under investigation:  Art stated that the alledged Misty slapping Jr side his head at the doctors office is being investigated.

Chapter 39 of the Florida Statues.

http://www.flcourts.org/gen_public/family/bin/2005Chapter39.pdf

Heart even still don't you find it a wee bit odd that no emergency custody hearing was filed on Jr's behalf?
If KP felt that she had reason to believe that anything ANYTHING could put Jr's well being in danger then don't you think that would have been acted upon already?
I'm concerned about Jr and if I were that child's Mother that emergency custody hearing would have been filed from the get go when it was found out about Misty's 3 day bender and Ron "allowed" that underage party girl to care for and be responsible for the children? The girl wasn't even being responsible with herself let alone to put children in her trust and care.
Something here just isn't right beyond being completely insane.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 24, 2009, 07:56:07 PM
And let's not forget that Ron was allowing Misty to drive those kids around full well knowing that she had no drivers license. Again we are talking about Misty who had no drivers license, is lacking in education and who most likely had no drivers training either which means that there was a HUGE chance and possibility that she could have gotten into an accident and either injured the kids, herself and possibly others.
It looks to me that Ron was playing russian roullette with his children's lives no?

So my question is why hasn't there been an emergency motion filed?
What would stop KP from filing?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 24, 2009, 08:10:27 PM
Please don't post anyone's social security number. 

MuffyBee.

Thank-you for the reminder about ssn, that was a real error, it slipped my attention, will pay more attention to details.
Do you know what else GramaMonkey wants to be looked up,please? 

I found GGMA Sykes divorce 1978, she must have married Myles a year or two later. I would love to know where Donald Robert Squires, 1961, where he was born? We know Teresa Annette Squires was born in Dallas, Texas. It is a mystery of who "Betty Louise Squires" born Harris, TX.  Betty and Teresa father is Joe Stephen Squires. I think I found a Joe "Steven" Squires in Harris,TX. his father is the late Charlie W. Squire. I am going to wait if anyone has more information.  Are we sure that Joe Squires is dead or is it possible he is still living?  He is a big mystery. Not one of the Squires children have Joe Stephen Squires listed as a relative, I wonder if they didn't know him as a Dad. This whole family is scrambled eggs.

Curious, how old was Dorothy Annette Sykes, when she had Donald Robert Squires?  If we could find out what state Donald Robert Squires was born, maybe, it would give a clue to Joe Stephen Squire or Joe Steven Squires.

I may not have found the mystery relative in Texas, I posted earlier today the info.

God Bless,
Seahorse

Hi Paricia ~  Been out of the loop this pat weekend, so have to thank you for whatever info you have found so far.  Not sure what else we need....or maybe we have what we wanted.  Will check and see, maybe mlee can offer a suggestion as to who maybe looked at as far as relatives, etc...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 24, 2009, 08:13:56 PM
Please don't post anyone's social security number. 

MuffyBee.

Thank-you for the reminder about ssn, that was a real error, it slipped my attention, will pay more attention to details.
Do you know what else GramaMonkey wants to be looked up,please? 

I found GGMA Sykes divorce 1978, she must have married Myles a year or two later. I would love to know where Donald Robert Squires, 1961, where he was born? We know Teresa Annette Squires was born in Dallas, Texas. It is a mystery of who "Betty Louise Squires" born Harris, TX.  Betty and Teresa father is Joe Stephen Squires. I think I found a Joe "Steven" Squires in Harris,TX. his father is the late Charlie W. Squire. I am going to wait if anyone has more information.  Are we sure that Joe Squires is dead or is it possible he is still living?  He is a big mystery. Not one of the Squires children have Joe Stephen Squires listed as a relative, I wonder if they didn't know him as a Dad. This whole family is scrambled eggs.

Curious, how old was Dorothy Annette Sykes, when she had Donald Robert Squires?  If we could find out what state Donald Robert Squires was born, maybe, it would give a clue to Joe Stephen Squire or Joe Steven Squires.

I may not have found the mystery relative in Texas, I posted earlier today the info.

God Bless,
Seahorse

Hi Paricia ~  Been out of the loop this pat weekend, so have to thank you for whatever info you have found so far.  Not sure what else we need....or maybe we have what we wanted.  Will check and see, maybe mlee can offer a suggestion as to who maybe looked at as far as relatives, etc...

Sorry seahorse, you can tell I haven't been keeping up with the names as well.  I am not sure if we need anyone else looked at.  Will have to go back and see what we need, if  anymore info.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 24, 2009, 08:28:32 PM
Misssherriff (Saint Augustine, FL ) says:


FYI: earlier in this live show, Cobra has the tape recordings from the Snodgrass bailbondsman from Valentine.

Guess we have to wait until Simon lists the interview recoding later, I missed it but got an email stating Cobra has backed up his claims.

Only speculation until hearing the entire show.

Prayers for Haleigh!

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35284
Yes i listened to the interview..Cobra stated he was wearing a wire ..He busted a bail bondsmen from Jacksonville lieing ..And told him he was wearing a wire the hole time.

Cobra belives that Haleigh is alive and that some family members are hidding her.

I heard the question about which family.. seemed like odd answers, I thought he directed it towards rons family, then corrected it and said he didn't say that  I have to go back and listen to that part again, just sure exactly what he was referring to.. no answer for motivation.

True, Cobra can hardly be heard.  I believe Cobra informed the caller that Ron's side had been checked out and now they are going on to the other side.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 24, 2009, 08:31:44 PM
Misssherriff (Saint Augustine, FL ) says:


FYI: earlier in this live show, Cobra has the tape recordings from the Snodgrass bailbondsman from Valentine.

Guess we have to wait until Simon lists the interview recoding later, I missed it but got an email stating Cobra has backed up his claims.

Only speculation until hearing the entire show.

Prayers for Haleigh!

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35284
Yes i listened to the interview..Cobra stated he was wearing a wire ..He busted a bail bondsmen from Jacksonville lieing ..And told him he was wearing a wire the hole time.

Cobra belives that Haleigh is alive and that some family members are hidding her.

I heard the question about which family.. seemed like odd answers, I thought he directed it towards rons family, then corrected it and said he didn't say that  I have to go back and listen to that part again, just sure exactly what he was referring to.. no answer for motivation.

melee and all Monkeys: What was your take on Cobra's, Art's response on Crystal's usage or nonusage of drugs?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Cappuccino on May 24, 2009, 08:34:07 PM
Recording of BNN broadcast is up http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/05/24/Haleigh-Cummings-


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 24, 2009, 08:40:47 PM
A guest came on and ask about the abduction being family involved, and he said yes... no hesitation.  The ask which side to look at? and I'm not sure the term he said, but the caller said, ron's family huh, cobra came back and disputed that. So the question came up again, and reference to ron's family.. Again, Cobra louder, said.. I didn't say that.. They ask for motivation for the abduction.. never got answered.

My opinion, where to look..  look at facts.  We have torn ron's family to shreds, almost completed the best darn genealogy file on that family then they have ever seen. Surprised we didn't track every one of them back to the civil war.  It is not there.  Grama knows who I believe little Haleigh has been with in a general sense, and who I beleive took Haleigh.. Too many people disagree.. But, lets me honest, we have tracked everything and its brother now for a few months.. All path's have lead to a dead end.  I believe Haleigh is alive, well and safe and has been.  Think back to a comment I made months ago, when the suddenly one morning all would wake up and find the families goa..   Well, Crystal has returned to Baker Co. Anyone have observation in Baker Co.  Maria and Bruce live in Sanderson, anyone have observations in Sanderson.  We  had a perfectly good sighting in Crestview, but that was knocked down and stepped on.. Althought, we do have a Tim Sheffield and wife live over there and drive a little black car that resembles a ford mustang..   Now, Johnny and connie are heading for Kentucky..  If I had a choice, I would look in NC, SC, Texas, New Mexico, Colorado and Oklahoma..  Bull riding country.  He was wearing a shirt with the Bull riding insignia on it, in a photograph.. good a clue as any.. Connie is a nurse, hey hospitals and Doctor's officers all over this County..  But, I know where there are a bunch of research hospitals, and they are always hiring.  Two, Johnny has diabetes, he said.. which means he needs to settle near a veterans hospital. And or a Military Base with medical facility.   So, think back to the night Haleigh went missing.. Think about the weekend prior and what all had occurred, and then put yourself in Crystal's shoes.  Think about how your children were being treated, and the type of person who was taking care of them. A teenage Druggie..  And even if Amber wasn't related to Crystal, she had almost gotten into a fight with misty, who do you think she would call and rag on misty and her bad habits??  Food for thought.  But.. we need to put this in one direction without battles, working together we might come up with something, if we divide and go in different directions and disagree on everything, we might just quit right now and set here and look at this computer screen.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 24, 2009, 08:42:00 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 24, 2009, 08:44:14 PM
A guest came on and ask about the abduction being family involved, and he said yes... no hesitation.  The ask which side to look at? and I'm not sure the term he said, but the caller said, ron's family huh, cobra came back and disputed that. So the question came up again, and reference to ron's family.. Again, Cobra louder, said.. I didn't say that.. They ask for motivation for the abduction.. never got answered.

My opinion, where to look..  look at facts.  We have torn ron's family to shreds, almost completed the best darn genealogy file on that family then they have ever seen. Surprised we didn't track every one of them back to the civil war.  It is not there.  Grama knows who I believe little Haleigh has been with in a general sense, and who I beleive took Haleigh.. Too many people disagree.. But, lets me honest, we have tracked everything and its brother now for a few months.. All path's have lead to a dead end.  I believe Haleigh is alive, well and safe and has been.  Think back to a comment I made months ago, when the suddenly one morning all would wake up and find the families goa..   Well, Crystal has returned to Baker Co. Anyone have observation in Baker Co.  Maria and Bruce live in Sanderson, anyone have observations in Sanderson.  We  had a perfectly good sighting in Crestview, but that was knocked down and stepped on.. Althought, we do have a Tim Sheffield and wife live over there and drive a little black car that resembles a ford mustang..   Now, Johnny and connie are heading for Kentucky..  If I had a choice, I would look in NC, SC, Texas, New Mexico, Colorado and Oklahoma..  Bull riding country.  He was wearing a shirt with the Bull riding insignia on it, in a photograph.. good a clue as any.. Connie is a nurse, hey hospitals and Doctor's officers all over this County..  But, I know where there are a bunch of research hospitals, and they are always hiring.  Two, Johnny has diabetes, he said.. which means he needs to settle near a veterans hospital. And or a Military Base with medical facility.   So, think back to the night Haleigh went missing.. Think about the weekend prior and what all had occurred, and then put yourself in Crystal's shoes.  Think about how your children were being treated, and the type of person who was taking care of them. A teenage Druggie..  And even if Amber wasn't related to Crystal, she had almost gotten into a fight with misty, who do you think she would call and rag on misty and her bad habits??  Food for thought.  But.. we need to put this in one direction without battles, working together we might come up with something, if we divide and go in different directions and disagree on everything, we might just quit right now and set here and look at this computer screen.

I listened again and what I believe Cobra's first response was:  Ron's side has been checked out, so who does that leave.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 24, 2009, 08:48:36 PM
Misssherriff (Saint Augustine, FL ) says:


FYI: earlier in this live show, Cobra has the tape recordings from the Snodgrass bailbondsman from Valentine.

Guess we have to wait until Simon lists the interview recoding later, I missed it but got an email stating Cobra has backed up his claims.

Only speculation until hearing the entire show.

Prayers for Haleigh!

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35284
Yes i listened to the interview..Cobra stated he was wearing a wire ..He busted a bail bondsmen from Jacksonville lieing ..And told him he was wearing a wire the hole time.

Cobra belives that Haleigh is alive and that some family members are hidding her.

I heard the question about which family.. seemed like odd answers, I thought he directed it towards rons family, then corrected it and said he didn't say that  I have to go back and listen to that part again, just sure exactly what he was referring to.. no answer for motivation.

Heart, I don't know.. I do know that all drugs have a life time in the system.  And it depends on when the drug testing took place, and or if it was a random unscheduled testing.  Art says that her test came up clear,  Cobra says she takes loritabs and xanex..  I just don't know and that's the God's honest truth..  I do know that if she is on drugs and it is effecting her physically, then she is her own worst enemy, and it would be her own fault if they did not allow her to keep the childen. From the way they have been talking lately,  I got the impression, that it was Crystal or Foster Care, because ron was totally left out of all of the conversation..   Of course this is my opinion only.. and speculation of what they were saying..
melee and all Monkeys: What was your take on Cobra's, Art's response on Crystal's usage or nonusage of drugs?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Cappuccino on May 24, 2009, 08:55:53 PM
Do we have a screencap of Crystal's myspace with a reported makeup picture with the caption "getting ready for the show" which was actually preparing for the vigil last weekend?   I struggled to listen to the BNN broadcast & heard that there.  They went on about the Anthonys being involved and not surprisingly I totally agree on that point, they have some nerve supporting their killer while using missing children efforts as a front & blood money to pay their bills - these are not the type of people I would surround myself with EVER much less in crisis.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: klaasend on May 24, 2009, 08:57:07 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 24, 2009, 08:58:10 PM
Do we have a screencap of Crystal's myspace with a reported makeup picture with the caption "getting ready for the show" which was actually preparing for the vigil last weekend?   I struggled to listen to the BNN broadcast & heard that there.  They went on about the Anthonys being involved and not surprisingly I totally agree on that point, they have some nerve supporting their killer while using missing children efforts as a front & blood money to pay their bills - these are not the type of people I would surround myself with EVER much less in crisis.

I posted the photos about a week or so ago. I can repost.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 24, 2009, 08:59:49 PM
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/marie.jpg)
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/marieandcrystal.jpg)
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/crystalbeforeinterview.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 24, 2009, 09:04:20 PM
Do we have a screencap of Crystal's myspace with a reported makeup picture with the caption "getting ready for the show" which was actually preparing for the vigil last weekend?   I struggled to listen to the BNN broadcast & heard that there.  They went on about the Anthonys being involved and not surprisingly I totally agree on that point, they have some nerve supporting their killer while using missing children efforts as a front & blood money to pay their bills - these are not the type of people I would surround myself with EVER much less in crisis.

I posted the photos about a week or so ago. I can repost.

These were apparently for another show, or interview.. they have been on the site for some time..  Now, what happened with  Haleigh has nothing to do with the Anthony's.. The Anthonys brought themselves into this..  So, what we need to deal with is making a determination on why Haleigh need to be removed from the home.. We are going to have to put ourselves in the place of a concerned parent, knowing the homelife style was not good for the children.. This has nothing to do with Money.. I repeat it has nothing to do with the Anthony's.. The reason I agreed to post the photos, was the lack of emotion, that I feel is not there.  No tears, no crying, no anger, no hysteria.. And I also repeat these photos have nothing to do with this last show.. so, we need to cut that concept out, completely..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: klaasend on May 24, 2009, 09:06:52 PM
Mlee - do you have the link to the myspace these came from?  Thanks!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 24, 2009, 09:18:11 PM
Do we have a screencap of Crystal's myspace with a reported makeup picture with the caption "getting ready for the show" which was actually preparing for the vigil last weekend?   I struggled to listen to the BNN broadcast & heard that there.  They went on about the Anthonys being involved and not surprisingly I totally agree on that point, they have some nerve supporting their killer while using missing children efforts as a front & blood money to pay their bills - these are not the type of people I would surround myself with EVER much less in crisis.

I posted the photos about a week or so ago. I can repost.

These were apparently for another show, or interview.. they have been on the site for some time..  Now, what happened with  Haleigh has nothing to do with the Anthony's.. The Anthonys brought themselves into this..  So, what we need to deal with is making a determination on why Haleigh need to be removed from the home.. We are going to have to put ourselves in the place of a concerned parent, knowing the homelife style was not good for the children.. This has nothing to do with Money.. I repeat it has nothing to do with the Anthony's.. The reason I agreed to post the photos, was the lack of emotion, that I feel is not there.  No tears, no crying, no anger, no hysteria.. And I also repeat these photos have nothing to do with this last show.. so, we need to cut that concept out, completely..
If we are going to concentrate on a concerned parent knowing the homelife style was not good for the children, then pray tell, why would they  take only one and not both?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 24, 2009, 09:18:59 PM
Mlee - do you have the link to the myspace these came from?  Thanks!

There are some similar ones in a "green room" getting ready for a show on Marie's page at http://www.myspace.com/luckylady1207

(On the front page)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: lady on May 24, 2009, 09:20:56 PM
Mlee - do you have the link to the myspace these came from?  Thanks!

There are some similar ones in a "green room" getting ready for a show on Marie's page at http://www.myspace.com/luckylady1207

(On the front page)
they arent on Crystals myspace...I just checked


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 24, 2009, 09:25:49 PM
Mlee - do you have the link to the myspace these came from?  Thanks!

There are some similar ones in a "green room" getting ready for a show on Marie's page at http://www.myspace.com/luckylady1207

(On the front page)
they arent on Crystals myspace...I just checked

I don't think they ever were. As I recall, they were on Marie's page only.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: klaasend on May 24, 2009, 09:52:00 PM
Mlee - do you have the link to the myspace these came from?  Thanks!

There are some similar ones in a "green room" getting ready for a show on Marie's page at http://www.myspace.com/luckylady1207

(On the front page)
they arent on Crystals myspace...I just checked

I don't think they ever were. As I recall, they were on Marie's page only.

Brandi - good to see you.

Please remind me who Marie is, is Marie Crystal's sister?  I'm not sure of the importance of what Marie is saying in the pic.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 24, 2009, 09:56:30 PM
If someone on Crystal's side had abducted Haleigh I am not understanding how either Crystal, a friend or family member ect... could take ony one of the children and not both but I am on board for checking out Crystal and her side of the family etc...

I remember there was an issue about the MH keys that LE was looking for and that LE had gone to the wrong camp.
Do we have the information nailed down about that particular situation or?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 24, 2009, 09:59:54 PM
Mlee - do you have the link to the myspace these came from?  Thanks!

Yes, I do.. 

http://www.myspace.com/luckylady1207 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 24, 2009, 10:00:14 PM
StraightTalk (Orange Park, FL) says:


sorry,poca, but it's true. her own sister posted about 3 weeks ago a comment to a buddy on myspace that said they'd been "smokin in the car and broke their stem but had to make due. she specified crystal by name "creep," her nickname for crystal. why would her own sister be posting back-and-forth with one of her friends about their adventures of the night before if she was making it up? why would cobra say crystals hands weren't clean either, then further tell exactly what kind of drugs she was taking? guess he didn't know about the drugs she was smoking in the car "when they broke their stem." can anyone tell us what someone would be smoking out of a stem?? why would kim be so gun-ho on rushing to get jr. out of such a "dangerous situation," then almost 3 months later we find out the paperworks not even been filed? why has she not pushed the courts to take jr. yet? why after almost 3 months has dfs not found any reason to take jr out of the home (though i sure don't like that he's living there either) if the living conditions were as bad as kim tried to make them seem? none of it makes sense if crystals clean and sober. if it were my client and i wanted to prove to the courts and the judge and everyone else involved that my client wasn't doing drugs, i'd make d*mn sure every eyeball i could find would be looking at her clean drug test results. anyone seen them? all imo, of COURSE!

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35352

Does anyone have the link to Crystal's sister's myspace page?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 24, 2009, 10:01:34 PM
Blog Radio is on the site.. Ms Pickles said..  "I'm NOT Drunk"..

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!


The biggest difference between the two cases that I see is a $125,000.00 (something like that) reward, and a $35,000.00 reward.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 24, 2009, 10:02:48 PM
Mlee - do you have the link to the myspace these came from?  Thanks!

There are some similar ones in a "green room" getting ready for a show on Marie's page at http://www.myspace.com/luckylady1207

(On the front page)
they arent on Crystals myspace...I just checked

I don't think they ever were. As I recall, they were on Marie's page only.

Brandi - good to see you.

Please remind me who Marie is, is Marie Crystal's sister?  I'm not sure of the importance of what Marie is saying in the pic.

Hi klaasend! I'm not Brandi, but Marie is Crystal's mother.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 24, 2009, 10:15:47 PM
StraightTalk (Orange Park, FL) says:


sorry,poca, but it's true. her own sister posted about 3 weeks ago a comment to a buddy on myspace that said they'd been "smokin in the car and broke their stem but had to make due. she specified crystal by name "creep," her nickname for crystal. why would her own sister be posting back-and-forth with one of her friends about their adventures of the night before if she was making it up? why would cobra say crystals hands weren't clean either, then further tell exactly what kind of drugs she was taking? guess he didn't know about the drugs she was smoking in the car "when they broke their stem." can anyone tell us what someone would be smoking out of a stem?? why would kim be so gun-ho on rushing to get jr. out of such a "dangerous situation," then almost 3 months later we find out the paperworks not even been filed? why has she not pushed the courts to take jr. yet? why after almost 3 months has dfs not found any reason to take jr out of the home (though i sure don't like that he's living there either) if the living conditions were as bad as kim tried to make them seem? none of it makes sense if crystals clean and sober. if it were my client and i wanted to prove to the courts and the judge and everyone else involved that my client wasn't doing drugs, i'd make d*mn sure every eyeball i could find would be looking at her clean drug test results. anyone seen them? all imo, of COURSE!

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35352

Does anyone have the link to Crystal's sister's myspace page?

A stem would most likely be a pipe stem. I wonder what they were smoking?
I wonder if Crystal can be asked to submit to a drug test at this point 
especially since the information is out there for the whole world to see via her own Sister or?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 24, 2009, 10:19:01 PM
Good Morning, I've caught up, and frankly don't know what to think, besides it is a huge mess. Maybe all these people, Cobra, Kim, TJ Hart and Art Harris need to go home and let LE do their work, I don't see how any of this is helping getting to the bottom of what happened to Haleigh. ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree Rosie!

Lady....Crystal did not lose custody of her kids for no good reason,,,single fathers do not generally get custody of their children over the mother unless there is reason...
Crystal does not have clean hands in this whole sad saga either...I think that more will come out about Crystal during the investigation...this could all backfire on her....
I hope that the children go to the best possible home and if that is not with either parent, then so be it...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 24, 2009, 10:20:18 PM
Mlee, you've been saying it.  I know you have.  I thought the same a few weeks ago when I read that KP is trying to get rid of Cobra.  Or when he was looking at Crystal and KP wasn't happy about it.  I think that's when I waffled on the whole Ron thing.  Somethings wrong with the whole picture...somethings wrong.....somethings wrong....

So.  Why not Jr. too?  Because then it is obviously a parent abduction? It would be too obvious that Crystal got them away because of the money due to Ron for child support? Or was money the incentive all along? Taking a page out of the Anthony's??  Why else...there's something else, I can't grab onto it.

Mlee, weigh in!  Why not Jr.?  Come on Monkeys...why not Jr.?  And I'm in Texas.  What do ya'll need?  And I find myself looking for this little girl every where I go. 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 24, 2009, 10:21:47 PM
Mlee - do you have the link to the myspace these came from?  Thanks!

There are some similar ones in a "green room" getting ready for a show on Marie's page at http://www.myspace.com/luckylady1207

(On the front page)
they arent on Crystals myspace...I just checked

I don't think they ever were. As I recall, they were on Marie's page only.

Brandi - good to see you.

Please remind me who Marie is, is Marie Crystal's sister?  I'm not sure of the importance of what Marie is saying in the pic.

Thanks, Klaas.

Sorry, I was out doing some stuff.

Marie Griffis, Crystal's mother. She is pictured in the images with Crystal.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 24, 2009, 10:23:22 PM
Do we have a screencap of Crystal's myspace with a reported makeup picture with the caption "getting ready for the show" which was actually preparing for the vigil last weekend?   I struggled to listen to the BNN broadcast & heard that there.  They went on about the Anthonys being involved and not surprisingly I totally agree on that point, they have some nerve supporting their killer while using missing children efforts as a front & blood money to pay their bills - these are not the type of people I would surround myself with EVER much less in crisis.

I posted the photos about a week or so ago. I can repost.

These were apparently for another show, or interview.. they have been on the site for some time..  Now, what happened with  Haleigh has nothing to do with the Anthony's.. The Anthonys brought themselves into this..  So, what we need to deal with is making a determination on why Haleigh need to be removed from the home.. We are going to have to put ourselves in the place of a concerned parent, knowing the homelife style was not good for the children.. This has nothing to do with Money.. I repeat it has nothing to do with the Anthony's.. The reason I agreed to post the photos, was the lack of emotion, that I feel is not there.  No tears, no crying, no anger, no hysteria.. And I also repeat these photos have nothing to do with this last show.. so, we need to cut that concept out, completely..
If we are going to concentrate on a concerned parent knowing the homelife style was not good for the children, then pray tell, why would they  take only one and not both?

Okay, lets go back to that night..   Misty is passed out.... cold....  having a good time somethings just wears you out.  Remember, that Haleigh and Little ron had an issue over what dvd to watch.  Apaprently, little ron won out, and they were laying down watching the movie.  Now, it is a big possibility that Haleigh did not go to sleep, like we thought.  Because, her dvd was in the machine, that the le took. Snow Dogs.. So, little miss was up watching her Movie..  There is no doubt in my mind, that Haleigh opened up the front door.. But, she would not do this for a stranger..  If someone were trying to break in, that child would have been screaming..  So, someone she knew and loved, she opened the door for.  Now, think about the bed.. Misty and little ron were sleeping on. Pushed against the wall.  Think misty on the outside nearest the door, because she isn't going to crawl into bed overtop a child, push the kid over.. So, you have him on the bed near the wall.  You want to remove a sleeping child who is sleeping next to the wall.
You can't get to him, without kneeling on the bed, pulling him down to the bottom of the bed, he would have woke up and let me tell you.. so would misty..  Had he been sleeping on the sofa, or in his own room.. there would have been two children missing that night.... He was not accessable.  I believe they changed her clothing, in the kitchen, gathered whatever they took, threw her dirty shirt in the dirty clothes pile. And left the House.  The back door was BS..  I even think they may have left a note, telling ron where Haleigh was going, but.. before he found the note.. misty was on the phone with the le and the show was on...   Now, think about the path the dogs traveled, down green to monroe, to bucanan cir, back to monroe to tyler and then the railroad tracks.

They got lost leaving the area.. unfamiliar territory.  When they headed down monroe, probably thinking there would be an outlet, there is none, so they circled bucanan cir, no outlet, back to monroe.  The no outlet, there is a ten foot security wooden fence around the entire area.. the only outlet they could find was the one they walked in one, tyler.. Thats the track the dogs followed, to the railroad track.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 24, 2009, 10:25:08 PM
From what I understand from reading into a few different websites there are ways to pass the standard drug tests. I'm not exactly sure of whether this is true or not but I thought I'd share what I had read.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 24, 2009, 10:29:04 PM
StraightTalk (Orange Park, FL) says:


sorry,poca, but it's true. her own sister posted about 3 weeks ago a comment to a buddy on myspace that said they'd been "smokin in the car and broke their stem but had to make due. she specified crystal by name "creep," her nickname for crystal. why would her own sister be posting back-and-forth with one of her friends about their adventures of the night before if she was making it up? why would cobra say crystals hands weren't clean either, then further tell exactly what kind of drugs she was taking? guess he didn't know about the drugs she was smoking in the car "when they broke their stem." can anyone tell us what someone would be smoking out of a stem?? why would kim be so gun-ho on rushing to get jr. out of such a "dangerous situation," then almost 3 months later we find out the paperworks not even been filed? why has she not pushed the courts to take jr. yet? why after almost 3 months has dfs not found any reason to take jr out of the home (though i sure don't like that he's living there either) if the living conditions were as bad as kim tried to make them seem? none of it makes sense if crystals clean and sober. if it were my client and i wanted to prove to the courts and the judge and everyone else involved that my client wasn't doing drugs, i'd make d*mn sure every eyeball i could find would be looking at her clean drug test results. anyone seen them? all imo, of COURSE!

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35352

Does anyone have the link to Crystal's sister's myspace page?

Here is Sarah's http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=370621864

She also has a sister Savannah, I believe. I don't have Savannah's page.

(I don't "do" myspace.) LOL



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 24, 2009, 10:29:40 PM
Do we have a screencap of Crystal's myspace with a reported makeup picture with the caption "getting ready for the show" which was actually preparing for the vigil last weekend?   I struggled to listen to the BNN broadcast & heard that there.  They went on about the Anthonys being involved and not surprisingly I totally agree on that point, they have some nerve supporting their killer while using missing children efforts as a front & blood money to pay their bills - these are not the type of people I would surround myself with EVER much less in crisis.

I posted the photos about a week or so ago. I can repost.

These were apparently for another show, or interview.. they have been on the site for some time..  Now, what happened with  Haleigh has nothing to do with the Anthony's.. The Anthonys brought themselves into this..  So, what we need to deal with is making a determination on why Haleigh need to be removed from the home.. We are going to have to put ourselves in the place of a concerned parent, knowing the homelife style was not good for the children.. This has nothing to do with Money.. I repeat it has nothing to do with the Anthony's.. The reason I agreed to post the photos, was the lack of emotion, that I feel is not there.  No tears, no crying, no anger, no hysteria.. And I also repeat these photos have nothing to do with this last show.. so, we need to cut that concept out, completely..
If we are going to concentrate on a concerned parent knowing the homelife style was not good for the children, then pray tell, why would they  take only one and not both?

Okay, lets go back to that night..   Misty is passed out.... cold....  having a good time somethings just wears you out.  Remember, that Haleigh and Little ron had an issue over what dvd to watch.  Apaprently, little ron won out, and they were laying down watching the movie.  Now, it is a big possibility that Haleigh did not go to sleep, like we thought.  Because, her dvd was in the machine, that the le took. Snow Dogs.. So, little miss was up watching her Movie..  There is no doubt in my mind, that Haleigh opened up the front door.. But, she would not do this for a stranger..  If someone were trying to break in, that child would have been screaming..  So, someone she knew and loved, she opened the door for.  Now, think about the bed.. Misty and little ron were sleeping on. Pushed against the wall.  Think misty on the outside nearest the door, because she isn't going to crawl into bed overtop a child, push the kid over.. So, you have him on the bed near the wall.  You want to remove a sleeping child who is sleeping next to the wall.
You can't get to him, without kneeling on the bed, pulling him down to the bottom of the bed, he would have woke up and let me tell you.. so would misty..  Had he been sleeping on the sofa, or in his own room.. there would have been two children missing that night.... He was not accessable.  I believe they changed her clothing, in the kitchen, gathered whatever they took, threw her dirty shirt in the dirty clothes pile. And left the House.  The back door was BS..  I even think they may have left a note, telling ron where Haleigh was going, but.. before he found the note.. misty was on the phone with the le and the show was on...   Now, think about the path the dogs traveled, down green to monroe, to bucanan cir, back to monroe to tyler and then the railroad tracks.

They got lost leaving the area.. unfamiliar territory.  When they headed down monroe, probably thinking there would be an outlet, there is none, so they circled bucanan cir, no outlet, back to monroe.  The no outlet, there is a ten foot security wooden fence around the entire area.. the only outlet they could find was the one they walked in one, tyler.. Thats the track the dogs followed, to the railroad track.
I recall there were differering answers between Marie and Crystal as to whether she had ever been in that MH or not.
I am going out for a few so maybe another poster can get the links to prove the differing answers on that.
BBL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 24, 2009, 10:30:38 PM
I recall there were differering answers between Marie and Crystal as to whether "she" had ever been in that MH or not.
I am going out for a few so maybe another poster can get the links to prove the differing answers on that.
BBL

"she" meaning Crystal.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 24, 2009, 10:33:21 PM
http://writeintoaction.com/COBRA.htm  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I've said it all along, these personal vendettas and/or custody battle has totally taken this case off its tracks - hellooo finding what happened to Haleigh should be the ONLY focus right now, the rest can be dealt with at the appropriate time.

I'm disgusted with ALL of the individuals surrounding this case on both sides & its neck deep - what happened here with Cobra is gonna bite them all in the bum, their error was trying to run him out of town to keep his mouth shut & attempting to ruin this man's livelihood & reputation, shameful.   You can bet he's gonna be more determined now, I can't say I approve of the approach but is it any wonder now why he has cameras rolling he cant trust anyone in this mess!   Now its clear why KP had to hire her own attorney, which I found to be a rather interesting development.  Say what you will about Ron but at least his attorneys are handling their end professionally & ethically.    Kim is just a snake in the grass grabbing onto this case for the media spotlight & she is not doing Crystal any favors.  If she did this & she had a history with Cobra & his ex-wife, shouldn't it beg the question what this woman would be willing to do or lie about to advance her agenda?  Ya know dirty secrets have a way of always rising to the top, the truth will prevail eventually but my main concern is that it is sadly probably too late for Haleigh's benefit & well being.  These adults involved should be ashamed of themselves for their past & present behavior, I'm amazed at the ignorance & depth of muck with the whole lot of them from both sides.   Can we not get back to what should be the only burning question:   Where is Haleigh?!!!

Great post Cappy! I have said all along just about the same thing that you have said about KP....she is there to butter her own toast...She started all of the bad feelings between Ron and Crystal...before she showed up, at least they were decent to each other and comforting each other, as witnessed in several pictures...jmo....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 24, 2009, 10:35:08 PM
StraightTalk (Orange Park, FL) says:


sorry,poca, but it's true. her own sister posted about 3 weeks ago a comment to a buddy on myspace that said they'd been "smokin in the car and broke their stem but had to make due. she specified crystal by name "creep," her nickname for crystal. why would her own sister be posting back-and-forth with one of her friends about their adventures of the night before if she was making it up? why would cobra say crystals hands weren't clean either, then further tell exactly what kind of drugs she was taking? guess he didn't know about the drugs she was smoking in the car "when they broke their stem." can anyone tell us what someone would be smoking out of a stem?? why would kim be so gun-ho on rushing to get jr. out of such a "dangerous situation," then almost 3 months later we find out the paperworks not even been filed? why has she not pushed the courts to take jr. yet? why after almost 3 months has dfs not found any reason to take jr out of the home (though i sure don't like that he's living there either) if the living conditions were as bad as kim tried to make them seem? none of it makes sense if crystals clean and sober. if it were my client and i wanted to prove to the courts and the judge and everyone else involved that my client wasn't doing drugs, i'd make d*mn sure every eyeball i could find would be looking at her clean drug test results. anyone seen them? all imo, of COURSE!

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35352

Does anyone have the link to Crystal's sister's myspace page?
pocahanas
Alachua, FL
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|Report Abuse |Judge it! |#35384 5 min ago
In answer to the questions about Ron and Misty living in the tent and that that should be reason enough to take Ron Jr.....that was looked into and it was proven that only Ron and Misty stayed in the tent.....Jr was staying in the home with the grandmother and that was checked on several times, also Crystal has been wanting to come back to the Haleigh center, its the doctors that tell her to step away from the place they think causes her stress and anxiety,she calls it Haleigh's house.... Also, the reason there has not been papers filed is because Kim said they are still looking into alegations about somethings and waiting to see what comes out of all that before they file.....also, I dont care what Crystals sister wrote on her my space page, this girl isnt the best place to get info from and everybody cant have it both ways.....scream for facts about some things and take someone's words for another thing, Crystal is not on drugs, not anything she hasnt been told to take...and yes, she has been following up on her Doctors appointments...Words are gonna fly when someones finances dont pan out and thats just how it is....some are damned if they do and damned if they dont!! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 24, 2009, 10:39:16 PM
I recall there were differering answers between Marie and Crystal as to whether she had ever been in that MH or not.
I am going out for a few so maybe another poster can get the links to prove the differing answers on that.
BBL

Yes, the interview is priceless.. I had such problems trying to find the entire thing..
It was with NG. Crystal was talking about the back door, and made statements to the effect that no one could get in that door from the outside, and it was too high for the kids to open.. Something to this effect. She was so clear about this topic, that it left questions with NG and an FBI profiler they had on the show, that had questions about how she could know all of these things.  When NG ask her about her knowledge, she said, it was from what ron said. When NG ask her if she had been in the mobile home since Haleigh went missing, first she said YES, then said Oh No..  When NG ask Marie, Crystal answered for Marie and said No, she hasn't been.

There are several interviews that if you watch, you set there are really go , oh my gosh.
They hold hands so tight, their circulation is almost cut off..   on one interview, Crystal is ask a question, and she doesn't respond, just looks at the reporter, and Marie has to elbow her to get her started.

Still another interview,  Marie is holding Crystal as Crystal is sobbing???, and tears are flowing down Marie's face at one of the Vigils, Marie looks into the Camera and says, I know Haleigh is missing her Daddy.  I sort of shook my head and thought, hey your holding her Mommy, isn't she missing her Mommy and Daddy???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 24, 2009, 10:41:05 PM
StraightTalk (Orange Park, FL) says:


sorry,poca, but it's true. her own sister posted about 3 weeks ago a comment to a buddy on myspace that said they'd been "smokin in the car and broke their stem but had to make due. she specified crystal by name "creep," her nickname for crystal. why would her own sister be posting back-and-forth with one of her friends about their adventures of the night before if she was making it up? why would cobra say crystals hands weren't clean either, then further tell exactly what kind of drugs she was taking? guess he didn't know about the drugs she was smoking in the car "when they broke their stem." can anyone tell us what someone would be smoking out of a stem?? why would kim be so gun-ho on rushing to get jr. out of such a "dangerous situation," then almost 3 months later we find out the paperworks not even been filed? why has she not pushed the courts to take jr. yet? why after almost 3 months has dfs not found any reason to take jr out of the home (though i sure don't like that he's living there either) if the living conditions were as bad as kim tried to make them seem? none of it makes sense if crystals clean and sober. if it were my client and i wanted to prove to the courts and the judge and everyone else involved that my client wasn't doing drugs, i'd make d*mn sure every eyeball i could find would be looking at her clean drug test results. anyone seen them? all imo, of COURSE!

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35352

Does anyone have the link to Crystal's sister's myspace page?

A stem would most likely be a pipe stem. I wonder what they were smoking?
I wonder if Crystal can be asked to submit to a drug test at this point 
especially since the information is out there for the whole world to see via her own Sister or?

2Spunky says:

Crystal's been back in Baker County since her 2nd seizure. She said that in her video taped interview with TJHart, and her family and those who hung around HBC for a few weeks after also said that. She came back for 3 days during which time she had her 1AM seizure at HBC and was running around with an ax in her hand with Chloe and her sister Sarah there with her. She went back to Baker County immediately after she went to the ER for that event. That's when all of the stories from Sarah's MySpace page surfaced. Seems she'd been telling about the couple of days leading up to that final event, and someone one apparently copied those portions of her page and put them out on the internet. I'm with Hobbit in that I don't think either Crystal or Ron are capable or responsible enough to take care of children - Haleigh, Jr., Chloe, or Chad's two that are supposedly living with them, though I've seen nothing to confirm that. I know that I personally wouldn't want or allow my children to live in a home with someone who was legally barred from seeing his own children for 2 years due to reported violence and abuse.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35377


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 24, 2009, 10:46:00 PM
Mlee - do yt
I must have missed all of these photos if they were previously posted here! I never saw them all doodied up for the show! hmmmmmmm......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 24, 2009, 10:47:39 PM
Mlee - do yt
I must have missed all of these photos if they were previously posted here! I never saw them all doodied up for the show! hmmmmmmm......

wow....I really messed this quote up...sorry...I am on my laptop which I don't use real often so I must have pressed on something that I didn't notice!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 24, 2009, 10:50:54 PM
Mlee - do yt
I must have missed all of these photos if they were previously posted here! I never saw them all doodied up for the show! hmmmmmmm......

wow....I really messed this quote up...sorry...I am on my laptop which I don't use real often so I must have pressed on something that I didn't notice!

Happens to the best of us.

Just glad you are here, cookie ;-)

Yes, mlee pointed them out some time ago, and I went and uploaded most of them to my photobucket account, and made note of the URL for Marie's page back then.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 24, 2009, 10:51:39 PM
See? Now I went and did it too, cookie!  LOL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: jaggard19 on May 24, 2009, 10:58:49 PM
Please light a candle for Haleigh:

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Halei

and Adji:

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=adji

and Jaliek Rainwalker:

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=jal

Keep them in our prayers.

Thank you.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 24, 2009, 11:03:50 PM
thanks Jag...will do!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: lady on May 24, 2009, 11:10:35 PM
http://www.myspace.com/luckylady1207    This is Maries myspace  http://www.myspace.com/sarah32063 this is sarahs. hope its what u were lookinng for


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: lady on May 24, 2009, 11:12:42 PM
http://www.myspace.com/luckylady1207    This is Maries myspace  http://www.myspace.com/sarah32063 this is sarahs. hope its what u were lookinng for
HEART...Sarah is Crystals sister.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 24, 2009, 11:14:09 PM
http://www.myspace.com/luckylady1207    This is Maries myspace  http://www.myspace.com/sarah32063 this is sarahs. hope its what u were lookinng for
HEART...Sarah is Crystals sister.

Thanks lady!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: lady on May 25, 2009, 12:19:52 AM
StraightTalk (Orange Park, FL) says:


sorry,poca, but it's true. her own sister posted about 3 weeks ago a comment to a buddy on myspace that said they'd been "smokin in the car and broke their stem but had to make due. she specified crystal by name "creep," her nickname for crystal. why would her own sister be posting back-and-forth with one of her friends about their adventures of the night before if she was making it up? why would cobra say crystals hands weren't clean either, then further tell exactly what kind of drugs she was taking? guess he didn't know about the drugs she was smoking in the car "when they broke their stem." can anyone tell us what someone would be smoking out of a stem?? why would kim be so gun-ho on rushing to get jr. out of such a "dangerous situation," then almost 3 months later we find out the paperworks not even been filed? why has she not pushed the courts to take jr. yet? why after almost 3 months has dfs not found any reason to take jr out of the home (though i sure don't like that he's living there either) if the living conditions were as bad as kim tried to make them seem? none of it makes sense if crystals clean and sober. if it were my client and i wanted to prove to the courts and the judge and everyone else involved that my client wasn't doing drugs, i'd make d*mn sure every eyeball i could find would be looking at her clean drug test results. anyone seen them? all imo, of COURSE!

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35352

Does anyone have the link to Crystal's sister's myspace page?
pocahanas
Alachua, FL
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|Report Abuse |Judge it! |#35384 5 min ago
In answer to the questions about Ron and Misty living in the tent and that that should be reason enough to take Ron Jr.....that was looked into and it was proven that only Ron and Misty stayed in the tent.....Jr was staying in the home with the grandmother and that was checked on several times, also Crystal has been wanting to come back to the Haleigh center, its the doctors that tell her to step away from the place they think causes her stress and anxiety,she calls it Haleigh's house.... Also, the reason there has not been papers filed is because Kim said they are still looking into alegations about somethings and waiting to see what comes out of all that before they file.....also, I dont care what Crystals sister wrote on her my space page, this girl isnt the best place to get info from and everybody cant have it both ways.....scream for facts about some things and take someone's words for another thing, Crystal is not on drugs, not anything she hasnt been told to take...and yes, she has been following up on her Doctors appointments...Words are gonna fly when someones finances dont pan out and thats just how it is....some are damned if they do and damned if they dont!! 
Who is this pocahanas person???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 25, 2009, 12:20:02 AM
http://www.myspace.com/luckylady1207    This is Maries myspace  http://www.myspace.com/sarah32063 this is sarahs. hope its what u were lookinng for
HEART...Sarah is Crystals sister.
lady, do you remember what the latest info on Jeremiah Regan is?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: lady on May 25, 2009, 12:48:51 AM
http://www.myspace.com/luckylady1207    This is Maries myspace  http://www.myspace.com/sarah32063 this is sarahs. hope its what u were lookinng for
HEART...Sarah is Crystals sister.
lady, do you remember what the latest info on Jeremiah Regan is?
Sorry Heart I do not..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: lady on May 25, 2009, 12:58:40 AM
StraightTalk (Orange Park, FL) says:


sorry,poca, but it's true. her own sister posted about 3 weeks ago a comment to a buddy on myspace that said they'd been "smokin in the car and broke their stem but had to make due. she specified crystal by name "creep," her nickname for crystal. why would her own sister be posting back-and-forth with one of her friends about their adventures of the night before if she was making it up? why would cobra say crystals hands weren't clean either, then further tell exactly what kind of drugs she was taking? guess he didn't know about the drugs she was smoking in the car "when they broke their stem." can anyone tell us what someone would be smoking out of a stem?? why would kim be so gun-ho on rushing to get jr. out of such a "dangerous situation," then almost 3 months later we find out the paperworks not even been filed? why has she not pushed the courts to take jr. yet? why after almost 3 months has dfs not found any reason to take jr out of the home (though i sure don't like that he's living there either) if the living conditions were as bad as kim tried to make them seem? none of it makes sense if crystals clean and sober. if it were my client and i wanted to prove to the courts and the judge and everyone else involved that my client wasn't doing drugs, i'd make d*mn sure every eyeball i could find would be looking at her clean drug test results. anyone seen them? all imo, of COURSE!

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35352

Does anyone have the link to Crystal's sister's myspace page?
pocahanas
Alachua, FL
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|Report Abuse |Judge it! |#35384 5 min ago
In answer to the questions about Ron and Misty living in the tent and that that should be reason enough to take Ron Jr.....that was looked into and it was proven that only Ron and Misty stayed in the tent.....Jr was staying in the home with the grandmother and that was checked on several times, also Crystal has been wanting to come back to the Haleigh center, its the doctors that tell her to step away from the place they think causes her stress and anxiety,she calls it Haleigh's house.... Also, the reason there has not been papers filed is because Kim said they are still looking into alegations about somethings and waiting to see what comes out of all that before they file.....also, I dont care what Crystals sister wrote on her my space page, this girl isnt the best place to get info from and everybody cant have it both ways.....scream for facts about some things and take someone's words for another thing, Crystal is not on drugs, not anything she hasnt been told to take...and yes, she has been following up on her Doctors appointments...Words are gonna fly when someones finances dont pan out and thats just how it is....some are damned if they do and damned if they dont!! 
Who is this pocahanas person???
Ahhh nevermind I figured it out...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 25, 2009, 01:53:27 AM
Hi please could a talented monkey assemble a structure of Dorothy Annette Stallings husbands?
I get all messed up with this womens husbands, first was it Squires or was it Welfenberg?
So it three times we think she was married?

Why can't we find anything on Joe Stephan Squires?  Do we know if he is really dead or just playing dead?

woooh holiday weekends are tiring!.....thought a break might do me good but found myself following relatives around trying to talk about the case search with them lol....they were looking at me like I was crazy !....glad to be back in the cage. I am trying to catch up on everything....I see you monkeys were working steady....

Okay it was Dorothy to Squires first....Dorothy to Welfenberg second....then Dorothy to Sykes last.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 25, 2009, 01:54:54 AM
Hi please could a talented monkey assemble a structure of Dorothy Annette Stallings husbands?
I get all messed up with this womens husbands, first was it Squires or was it Welfenberg?
So it three times we think she was married?

Why can't we find anything on Joe Stephan Squires?  Do we know if he is really dead or just playing dead?

woooh holiday weekends are tiring!.....thought a break might do me good but found myself following relatives around trying to talk about the case search with them lol....they were looking at me like I was crazy !....glad to be back in the cage. I am trying to catch up on everything....I see you monkeys were working steady....

Okay it was Dorothy to Squires first....Dorothy to Welfenberg second....then Dorothy to Sykes last.


I think that Squires is still alive?....found one on intellius in Nevada? Not sure if it is him?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 25, 2009, 07:06:13 AM
Hi please could a talented monkey assemble a structure of Dorothy Annette Stallings husbands?
I get all messed up with this womens husbands, first was it Squires or was it Welfenberg?
So it three times we think she was married?

Why can't we find anything on Joe Stephan Squires?  Do we know if he is really dead or just playing dead?

woooh holiday weekends are tiring!.....thought a break might do me good but found myself following relatives around trying to talk about the case search with them lol....they were looking at me like I was crazy !....glad to be back in the cage. I am trying to catch up on everything....I see you monkeys were working steady....

Okay it was Dorothy to Squires first....Dorothy to Welfenberg second....then Dorothy to Sykes last.


Thank-you, 2cents.

Is this RC's relative in Florida?  I highlighted on Myles Sykes OBIT his sisters listed and her name, I found her on peoplefinders.com she is a Sykes, or Glenda Miller, I believe she is on line 27 on Peoplefinders.com. She is 70 and she may fit into Sykes sister listed on his Obit. Thanks. I have posted the peoplefinders information on a few pages back, I just feel crumpy to repeatly post this womans information, I think it is important or I wouldn't have done it. I can't assume she is the relative but it looks pretty darn close.

I think that Squires is still alive?....found one on intellius in Nevada? Not sure if it is him?


Deceased Name: Myles K. Sykes, 61 
 
WELAKA -- Myles Kirby Sykes, 61, a retiree of Florida Department of Agriculture, died Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2002.

A native of Island Grove, he was a longtime resident of Hawthorne. Mr. Sykes was a member of First Baptist Church of Fruitland Park.

Survivors include his wife of 22 years, Annette Sykes, Welaka; son, Ronald Cummings, Crescent City; stepson, Donald Squires, Crescent City; daughters, Teresa Neves, Lady Lake, Melanie Kintzler, Oakfield, Wis., and Crystal Cummings, Wildwood; brothers, Thomas Sykes, Ocala, William Sykes, Opelika, Ala., and James Sykes, Marianna; sisters, Margie Boles, Gainesville, Berniece Woodward, Micanopy, Frances Coullette, Jacksonville, Glenda Miller, Texas  and Cora Sue Price, Island Grove; 10 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Red on May 25, 2009, 08:56:07 AM
Memorial Day 2009 … Remember & Honor Our Brave who Have Served and Sacrificed for Your Freedoms

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/05/25/memorial-day-2009-remember-honor-our-brave-who-have-served-and-sacrificed-for-your-freedoms/

Quote
On this Memorial Day please remember to give thanks and honor those who have laid down their lives in the ultimate sacrifice to protect our liberty and freedom.

(http://scaredmonkeys.com/fun-images/memorial_day2008_3_small.jpg)

To often in the United States we look for heroes in the wrong places or we use the term hero when it should never be. These individuals who have died to protect our way of life are and always will be true, American Heroes.

May everyone have a safe and happy Memorial Day ... Please remember to say a prayer and thank those who have laid down their lives for us.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 25, 2009, 09:16:36 AM
Memorial Day 2009 … Remember & Honor Our Brave who Have Served and Sacrificed for Your Freedoms

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/05/25/memorial-day-2009-remember-honor-our-brave-who-have-served-and-sacrificed-for-your-freedoms/

Quote
On this Memorial Day please remember to give thanks and honor those who have laid down their lives in the ultimate sacrifice to protect our liberty and freedom.

(http://scaredmonkeys.com/fun-images/memorial_day2008_3_small.jpg)

To often in the United States we look for heroes in the wrong places or we use the term hero when it should never be. These individuals who have died to protect our way of life are and always will be true, American Heroes.

May everyone have a safe and happy Memorial Day ... Please remember to say a prayer and thank those who have laid down their lives for us.

Along with our Prayers, we wish you and your Family a safe and happy Holiday also.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 25, 2009, 09:46:09 AM
Memorial Day 2009 … Remember & Honor Our Brave who Have Served and Sacrificed for Your Freedoms

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/05/25/memorial-day-2009-remember-honor-our-brave-who-have-served-and-sacrificed-for-your-freedoms/

Quote
On this Memorial Day please remember to give thanks and honor those who have laid down their lives in the ultimate sacrifice to protect our liberty and freedom.

(http://scaredmonkeys.com/fun-images/memorial_day2008_3_small.jpg)

To often in the United States we look for heroes in the wrong places or we use the term hero when it should never be. These individuals who have died to protect our way of life are and always will be true, American Heroes.

May everyone have a safe and happy Memorial Day ... Please remember to say a prayer and thank those who have laid down their lives for us.
Thank-you, I hope you and your family have a safe and happy Memorial Day also. Many true American heroes  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 25, 2009, 09:57:07 AM
Memorial Day 2009 … Remember & Honor Our Brave who Have Served and Sacrificed for Your Freedoms

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/05/25/memorial-day-2009-remember-honor-our-brave-who-have-served-and-sacrificed-for-your-freedoms/

Quote
On this Memorial Day please remember to give thanks and honor those who have laid down their lives in the ultimate sacrifice to protect our liberty and freedom.

(http://scaredmonkeys.com/fun-images/memorial_day2008_3_small.jpg)

To often in the United States we look for heroes in the wrong places or we use the term hero when it should never be. These individuals who have died to protect our way of life are and always will be true, American Heroes.

May everyone have a safe and happy Memorial Day ... Please remember to say a prayer and thank those who have laid down their lives for us.

Red,
 

A prayer also for the men and women suffering from wounds and stress related illinesses due to war.
That must be a living hell, returning from war and reliving the nightmares every minute of every day for the rest of your life.
God Bless the soldiers,

Seahorse


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 25, 2009, 10:37:33 AM
Hi please could a talented monkey assemble a structure of Dorothy Annette Stallings husbands?
I get all messed up with this womens husbands, first was it Squires or was it Welfenberg?
So it three times we think she was married?

Why can't we find anything on Joe Stephan Squires?  Do we know if he is really dead or just playing dead?

woooh holiday weekends are tiring!.....thought a break might do me good but found myself following relatives around trying to talk about the case search with them lol....they were looking at me like I was crazy !....glad to be back in the cage. I am trying to catch up on everything....I see you monkeys were working steady....

Okay it was Dorothy to Squires first....Dorothy to Welfenberg second....then Dorothy to Sykes last.


Thank-you, 2cents.

Is this RC's relative in Florida?  I highlighted on Myles Sykes OBIT his sisters listed and her name, I found her on peoplefinders.com she is a Sykes, or Glenda Miller, I believe she is on line 27 on Peoplefinders.com. She is 70 and she may fit into Sykes sister listed on his Obit. Thanks. I have posted the peoplefinders information on a few pages back, I just feel crumpy to repeatly post this womans information, I think it is important or I wouldn't have done it. I can't assume she is the relative but it looks pretty darn close.

I think that Squires is still alive?....found one on intellius in Nevada? Not sure if it is him?


Deceased Name: Myles K. Sykes, 61 
 
WELAKA -- Myles Kirby Sykes, 61, a retiree of Florida Department of Agriculture, died Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2002.

A native of Island Grove, he was a longtime resident of Hawthorne. Mr. Sykes was a member of First Baptist Church of Fruitland Park.

Survivors include his wife of 22 years, Annette Sykes, Welaka; son, Ronald Cummings, Crescent City; stepson, Donald Squires, Crescent City; daughters, Teresa Neves, Lady Lake, Melanie Kintzler, Oakfield, Wis., and Crystal Cummings, Wildwood; brothers, Thomas Sykes, Ocala, William Sykes, Opelika, Ala., and James Sykes, Marianna; sisters, Margie Boles, Gainesville, Berniece Woodward, Micanopy, Frances Coullette, Jacksonville, Glenda Miller, Texas  and Cora Sue Price, Island Grove; 10 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild.



Good morning Seahorse, saw you on and then you were gone..  You and Two Cents have done a great job in your digging. But, after yesterday's reports.. it looks like we are going to have to jump the fence and start digging on the other side.  So, I guess the primary families to look at are Sheffield, John's, St. Johns and Graffis.  And the counties are St. Johns, Baker, Putnam.  I know the Sheffield and St. John's families came out of Georgia into Florida from previous digging, and the went back to Georgia and then back to Florida.. Don't ask me why.. all of our Ancestors seemed to have the itch to move back and forth, and they did so at great hardship.. Anyway.. Thats where I will be digging. Georgia and Florida, of course you know there is expansion with the families and they are found in about every state. Added family names to look at, ickerman, Jocobs, Hale (extended families)  We know that Crystal has two sisters and a brother named marcus.  I think there is already info on the forum that was posted that will help guide us.  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4570.0;wap2


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: monkeymiser on May 25, 2009, 10:46:25 AM
In answer to what is smoked in stem it is usually crack cocaine!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 25, 2009, 11:04:17 AM
In answer to what is smoked in stem it is usually crack cocaine!
WELCOME I thought so, but wasn't sure, thanks.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: MuffyBee on May 25, 2009, 11:07:06 AM
Good morning and welcome to Scared Monkeys, monkeymiser  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 25, 2009, 11:09:34 AM
In answer to what is smoked in stem it is usually crack cocaine!

I have been all over that myspace page, and I have never found anything posted like that which refers to this.  I do believe it was just rumor and speculation.  It was posted on another site and then brought over here.  Unless someone can give us a link to take us to that location it was original found, actual statement then, we can't touch that. That would be an accusation and possible a slander that we could get in trouble for. And I won't walk that path, and would suggest that no one else does. I just went back through over 200 postings on that site. I repeat there is nothing there.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: crazybabyborg on May 25, 2009, 11:18:10 AM
In answer to what is smoked in stem it is usually crack cocaine!

Happy Memorial Day to all Monkeys! Welcome, monkeymiser!    ::MonkeyDance::

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 25, 2009, 11:18:12 AM
In answer to what is smoked in stem it is usually crack cocaine!

I have been all over that myspace page, and I have never found anything posted like that which refers to this.  I do believe it was just rumor and speculation.  It was posted on another site and then brought over here.  Unless someone can give us a link to take us to that location it was original found, actual statement then, we can't touch that. That would be an accusation and possible a slander that we could get in trouble for. And I won't walk that path, and would suggest that no one else does. I just went back through over 200 postings on that site. I repeat there is nothing there.
I have no idea if this is rumor or not, but at WS Stormy a local did say that Misty was at the hospital yesterday for pain in her side, she was released so it could not have been apendicitis. There is conversation about Stormy's friend talking to Ron at the hospital, and it is interesting to say the least. But again, I don't know if this is rumor or not. All of this is just frustrating. And now we have a sweet little girl with an Amber Alert issued in Michigan, which I pray ends well  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 25, 2009, 11:19:09 AM
CBB Happy Memorial Day to you as well, and to all the Monkeys and their families  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: crazybabyborg on May 25, 2009, 11:29:21 AM
Thanks, norose! Right backatcha!   ::MonkeyWink::

On this day when we are remembering the sacrifices made for us by others, I can't help but remember the children here that are lost and that should be with a loving family of their own. Prayers for Haleigh, and Caylee, and all those who are displaced, passed into heaven, or simply not afforded a family that cares. I'm grateful for the SM family and proud that I'm part of it, because of those who emotionally surrogate for these little ones. God Bless You All!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 25, 2009, 11:36:10 AM
Thanks, norose! Right backatcha!   ::MonkeyWink::

On this day when we are remembering the sacrifices made for us by others, I can't help but remember the children here that are lost and that should be with a loving family of their own. Prayers for Haleigh, and Caylee, and all those who are displaced, passed into heaven, or simply not afforded a family that cares. I'm grateful for the SM family and proud that I'm part of it, because of those who emotionally surrogate for these little ones. God Bless You All!


Good morning and Happy Memorial Day CBB and No Rose.. I hope you have family gathering.. And I am sorry that Misty is having problems, if she is.. Hope all will be okay with her.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: monkeymiser on May 25, 2009, 11:49:48 AM
Thank you so much for welcoming me. Glad to be here  ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 25, 2009, 12:22:57 PM
Thank you so much for welcoming me. Glad to be here  ::cartwheel::

I apologize for not welcoming you first, before I fussed.  Forgive me, and welcome to the Monkey Cage.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 25, 2009, 12:26:43 PM
Happy Memorial Day all Monkeys and Guests!

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And Welcome monkeymiser!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 25, 2009, 12:42:02 PM
In answer to what is smoked in stem it is usually crack cocaine!

I have been all over that myspace page, and I have never found anything posted like that which refers to this.  I do believe it was just rumor and speculation.  It was posted on another site and then brought over here.  Unless someone can give us a link to take us to that location it was original found, actual statement then, we can't touch that. That would be an accusation and possible a slander that we could get in trouble for. And I won't walk that path, and would suggest that no one else does. I just went back through over 200 postings on that site. I repeat there is nothing there.

Good morning mlee!  Are you a friend of Sarahs on myspace?  I have read that there is a screenshot of the page where Sarah posted that message floating around on the net somewhere.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mymonkey on May 25, 2009, 12:47:56 PM
Thank you so much for welcoming me. Glad to be here  ::cartwheel::


Welcome Monkeymiser


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 25, 2009, 01:00:24 PM
Happy Memorial Day all Monkeys and Guests!

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And Welcome monkeymiser!

Good morning Heart, ready for a Holiday.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 25, 2009, 01:03:36 PM
In answer to what is smoked in stem it is usually crack cocaine!

I have been all over that myspace page, and I have never found anything posted like that which refers to this.  I do believe it was just rumor and speculation.  It was posted on another site and then brought over here.  Unless someone can give us a link to take us to that location it was original found, actual statement then, we can't touch that. That would be an accusation and possible a slander that we could get in trouble for. And I won't walk that path, and would suggest that no one else does. I just went back through over 200 postings on that site. I repeat there is nothing there.

Good morning mlee!  Are you a friend of Sarahs on myspace?  I have read that there is a screenshot of the page where Sarah posted that message floating around on the net somewhere.


No, Heart I'm not.. haven't been to Sarah's page to go throught it, I did pull it up for the address.  I'll be very honest with you, from what I have seen on the other's, these sisters are very tight with one another. I can't even begin to imagine one saying anything harmful about the other.  They seem like a very tight family unit.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 25, 2009, 01:12:55 PM
Thank you so much for welcoming me. Glad to be here  ::cartwheel::

Nice to have a new monkey posting!

Welcome to the monkey cage, monkeymiser.

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 25, 2009, 01:14:25 PM
In answer to what is smoked in stem it is usually crack cocaine!

I have been all over that myspace page, and I have never found anything posted like that which refers to this.  I do believe it was just rumor and speculation.  It was posted on another site and then brought over here.  Unless someone can give us a link to take us to that location it was original found, actual statement then, we can't touch that. That would be an accusation and possible a slander that we could get in trouble for. And I won't walk that path, and would suggest that no one else does. I just went back through over 200 postings on that site. I repeat there is nothing there.

Good morning mlee!  Are you a friend of Sarahs on myspace?  I have read that there is a screenshot of the page where Sarah posted that message floating around on the net somewhere.


No, Heart I'm not.. haven't been to Sarah's page to go throught it, I did pull it up for the address.  I'll be very honest with you, from what I have seen on the other's, these sisters are very tight with one another. I can't even begin to imagine one saying anything harmful about the other.  They seem like a very tight family unit.

Adding to my own quote.. I am not even going to get caught up in that.. I know who posted it on topix. I am not going to get caught up in any of this..
I will help search for Haleigh, but will not be caught up in taking sides either way.  I will go in the direction that I believe has been suggest to look. But, I am not into helping anyone cause more harm than has already been done. Art said, quote unquote, he had knowledge and it had been verified, she was drug free on her screening.  That is not any of my business, its between her and DCS and LE. I am not walking down that path.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 25, 2009, 01:21:08 PM
Welcome MonkeyMiser  :)

Quick questions for the brilliant monkeys on board today.  Who is the man in the camo behind Crystals mother in this video, and is the man standing behind Crystal Chad?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_H5oEauLF4

Thank you


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 25, 2009, 01:24:47 PM
Welcome MonkeyMiser  :)

Quick questions for the brilliant monkeys on board today.  Who is the man in the camo behind Crystals mother in this video, and is the man standing behind Crystal Chad?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_H5oEauLF4

Thank you

To be very honest with you, I can only guess that it is either Chad Graffis or Marcus Sheffield.  Thats about the best I can do.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 25, 2009, 01:26:12 PM
Haleigh's Case At a Standstill

GLEN SAINT MARY, FL -- Monday is National Missing Children's Day.

The case that captured so many people's attention on the First Coast this year is that of 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings.

In Baker County, Haleigh's mother and her family have almost regained a sense of normalcy.

However, there is a big, gaping hole.

Haleigh has been missing for almost four months.

"I try to keep myself occupied so I don't stay stressed out," Crystal Sheffield, Haleigh's mother, told First Coast News Sunday.

Sheffield continues to take care of her youngest child. Haleigh's grandmother, Marie Griffis, is back on her school bus route and tends to their farm in Glen St. Mary.

It's a hundred miles away from where Haleigh disappeared from her father's Putnam County home in February.

Griffis said, "There's not a waking moment that we're not wondering where is Haleigh and who has her. It's awful. It's just awful."

On the edge of the Griffis property is a large sign with Haleigh's picture on it, asking if you've seen her.

When it comes to the investigation, there's not much new to report.

Griffis said she and her daughter keep in touch with investigators at the Putnam County Sheriff's Office.

Griffis said, the investigators have "this one path that they're on. But everything that comes into them just goes nowhere-- but right back to the same road they're going down. Until they get all the information they need, we're at a standstill."

The case of the missing girl has periodically shifted attention onto so many different angles and extra players in the past few months.

Haleigh's mother said, "I think it's nonsense because [the attention] should not be taken off of Haleigh, and it has been. Everybody is worried about what everybody else is doing. They need to be worried about Haleigh."

Meanwhile, life goes on but the pain of living life without answers about Haleigh continues.

"It's awful knowing we have to go on in our daily lives without her," Griffis said.

Haleigh's mother teared up and said, "There's no way to describe it."

If you know any information about the Haleigh Cummings case or have seen her, call Crime Stoppers at 1-888-277-TIPS.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=138565&catid=3


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mymonkey on May 25, 2009, 01:31:20 PM
Welcome MonkeyMiser  :)

Quick questions for the brilliant monkeys on board today.  Who is the man in the camo behind Crystals mother in this video, and is the man standing behind Crystal Chad?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_H5oEauLF4

Thank you

Thunder are you asking about the man that is not looking at the camera and is spitting tobacco?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 25, 2009, 01:31:50 PM
Just what I figured the case is at a standstill/cold case  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 25, 2009, 01:34:37 PM
Just what I figured the case is at a standstill/cold case  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Your right, it is...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 25, 2009, 01:43:05 PM
In answer to what is smoked in stem it is usually crack cocaine!

I have been all over that myspace page, and I have never found anything posted like that which refers to this.  I do believe it was just rumor and speculation.  It was posted on another site and then brought over here.  Unless someone can give us a link to take us to that location it was original found, actual statement then, we can't touch that. That would be an accusation and possible a slander that we could get in trouble for. And I won't walk that path, and would suggest that no one else does. I just went back through over 200 postings on that site. I repeat there is nothing there.

Good morning mlee!  Are you a friend of Sarahs on myspace?  I have read that there is a screenshot of the page where Sarah posted that message floating around on the net somewhere.


No, Heart I'm not.. haven't been to Sarah's page to go throught it, I did pull it up for the address.  I'll be very honest with you, from what I have seen on the other's, these sisters are very tight with one another. I can't even begin to imagine one saying anything harmful about the other.  They seem like a very tight family unit.
Hi. Happy Memorial Day to all of you... I am reading old posts and most likely have whoever this sara's myspace is.... so my question is who is sara and what's the deal with her... ( I added everyone and their mother a long time ago so I really do probably have her and don't know who you are talking about )


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 25, 2009, 01:44:11 PM
In answer to what is smoked in stem it is usually crack cocaine!

I have been all over that myspace page, and I have never found anything posted like that which refers to this.  I do believe it was just rumor and speculation.  It was posted on another site and then brought over here.  Unless someone can give us a link to take us to that location it was original found, actual statement then, we can't touch that. That would be an accusation and possible a slander that we could get in trouble for. And I won't walk that path, and would suggest that no one else does. I just went back through over 200 postings on that site. I repeat there is nothing there.

Good morning mlee!  Are you a friend of Sarahs on myspace?  I have read that there is a screenshot of the page where Sarah posted that message floating around on the net somewhere.


No, Heart I'm not.. haven't been to Sarah's page to go throught it, I did pull it up for the address.  I'll be very honest with you, from what I have seen on the other's, these sisters are very tight with one another. I can't even begin to imagine one saying anything harmful about the other.  They seem like a very tight family unit.
Hi. Happy Memorial Day to all of you... I am reading old posts and most likely have whoever this sara's myspace is.... so my question is who is sara and what's the deal with her... ( I added everyone and their mother a long time ago so I really do probably have her and don't know who you are talking about )

Sarah is Crystal's sister.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mymonkey on May 25, 2009, 01:44:14 PM
Just what I figured the case is at a standstill/cold case  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Your right, it is...


THIS IS SO SAD... I think if the circus had not come to town it would not be at a standstill. Praying for Haleigh to be found ::MonkeyAngel:: ::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 25, 2009, 01:44:36 PM
Yes MyMonkey.  The one with his arms crossed, looking down the whole time.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 25, 2009, 01:46:24 PM
Welcome MonkeyMiser  :)

Quick questions for the brilliant monkeys on board today.  Who is the man in the camo behind Crystals mother in this video, and is the man standing behind Crystal Chad?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_H5oEauLF4

Thank you
Yup Chad Griffis definitely
http://www.myspace.com/418138401


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 25, 2009, 01:46:46 PM
One thing I am thinking about right now is cameras. There are businesses off of the 17 right? Both directions? I am going to be out for most of the day spending time with family so maybe another Monkey can look into this today? If not I can do it when I get back.
I am wondering what businesses are located off the 17 in either direction and if it is possible that any of those businesses might have cameras that have coverage extending to the roadway?
I've thought of it before and I am certain that LE has already checked it out but today I was thinking, what if they haven't?

Have a safe day today everyone.
BBL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 25, 2009, 01:54:19 PM
One thing I am thinking about right now is cameras. There are businesses off of the 17 right? Both directions? I am going to be out for most of the day spending time with family so maybe another Monkey can look into this today? If not I can do it when I get back.
I am wondering what businesses are located off the 17 in either direction and if it is possible that any of those businesses might have cameras that have coverage extending to the roadway?
I've thought of it before and I am certain that LE has already checked it out but today I was thinking, what if they haven't?

Have a safe day today everyone.
BBL


That is a very good idea.. I know they have checked the camera in the Kangaroo, but I'm not sure what business's there are on 17, will pull up google earth and take a look. thanks


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 25, 2009, 01:56:01 PM
Welcome MonkeyMiser  :)

Quick questions for the brilliant monkeys on board today.  Who is the man in the camo behind Crystals mother in this video, and is the man standing behind Crystal Chad?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_H5oEauLF4

Thank you
Yup Chad Griffis definitely
http://www.myspace.com/418138401

I concur. Definitely appears to be Chad Griffis, Crystal's boyfriend/fiancé.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 25, 2009, 01:57:12 PM
Just what I figured the case is at a standstill/cold case  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Your right, it is...


THIS IS SO SAD... I think if the circus had not come to town it would not be at a standstill. Praying for Haleigh to be found ::MonkeyAngel:: ::

Yes.. as of the day the Sheriff came outside for an interview and said they really had nothing further, and the search's were called off.  In all honesty, had the circus had not come to town, we would have been in this same stop over a month ago.  With less knowledge.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 25, 2009, 02:04:32 PM
Highway 17 is a long stretched out highway cutting right through the woods and with hardly anything on either side but a few old businesses and small stores. everything is old...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 25, 2009, 02:28:29 PM
In answer to what is smoked in stem it is usually crack cocaine!

I have been all over that myspace page, and I have never found anything posted like that which refers to this.  I do believe it was just rumor and speculation.  It was posted on another site and then brought over here.  Unless someone can give us a link to take us to that location it was original found, actual statement then, we can't touch that. That would be an accusation and possible a slander that we could get in trouble for. And I won't walk that path, and would suggest that no one else does. I just went back through over 200 postings on that site. I repeat there is nothing there.
I have no idea if this is rumor or not, but at WS Stormy a local did say that Misty was at the hospital yesterday for pain in her side, she was released so it could not have been apendicitis. There is conversation about Stormy's friend talking to Ron at the hospital, and it is interesting to say the least. But again, I don't know if this is rumor or not. All of this is just frustrating. And now we have a sweet little girl with an Amber Alert issued in Michigan, which I pray ends well  ::MonkeyAngel::

mlee....not directed at you at all....but with all the things that have been said over here about Ron and Misty and his family, I would think that it is a little late to be worrying about slander, rumors and untruths....just sayin...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 25, 2009, 02:51:27 PM
Good Afternoon Monkey's... ::MonkeyTongue::

 
Remember our Hero's


(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/memorial-day-cross.gif)






Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 25, 2009, 02:55:58 PM
Good Afternoon Monkey's... ::MonkeyTongue::

 
Remember our Hero's


(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/memorial-day-cross.gif)






Happy Holiday to you too Jersey.. Hope your day is going well.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 25, 2009, 03:03:35 PM
Just what I figured the case is at a standstill/cold case  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yes , Thats what I am thinking...

God Bless Haleigh.. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 25, 2009, 03:05:16 PM
Welcome MonkeyMiser  :)

Quick questions for the brilliant monkeys on board today.  Who is the man in the camo behind Crystals mother in this video, and is the man standing behind Crystal Chad?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_H5oEauLF4

Thank you

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_j-DUX_c9sAg/ScG97uRms-I/AAAAAAAADH8/6s4L73qKHT0/s400/Crystal+Sheffield,+Johnny+Sheffield+her+dad.bmp)

Sheffield, Marcus Sheffield





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 25, 2009, 03:12:41 PM
snipped from mlee...

Happy Holiday to you too Jersey.. Hope your day is going well. ::MonkeyTongue::

Happy Memorial Day to all the sweet monkey's...

Thank you melee.  Happy Memorial Day!!!.. My son who is a proud soldier from Fort Eustis is with our family until tonight... God Bless Our Soldiers who keep us safe ,  those who lost their lives and those who fight to keep the freedom we have...



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 25, 2009, 03:21:42 PM
snipped from mlee...

Happy Holiday to you too Jersey.. Hope your day is going well. ::MonkeyTongue::

Happy Memorial Day to all the sweet monkey's...

Thank you melee.  Happy Memorial Day!!!.. My son who is a proud soldier from Fort Eustis is with our family until tonight... God Bless Our Soldiers who keep us safe ,  those who lost their lives and those who fight to keep the freedom we have...



Amen...Bless your son and the other soldiers who protect us and keep us safe!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 25, 2009, 03:29:01 PM
Welcome MonkeyMiser  :)

Quick questions for the brilliant monkeys on board today.  Who is the man in the camo behind Crystals mother in this video, and is the man standing behind Crystal Chad?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_H5oEauLF4

Thank you
Yup Chad Griffis definitely
http://www.myspace.com/418138401

I concur. Definitely appears to be Chad Griffis, Crystal's boyfriend/fiancé.

So sorry, I misread your question. You asked about the man in a camoflage hat. That's Marcus Sheffield.

Here is a print screen from the video with my name-markers:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image32-1.png)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 25, 2009, 04:06:17 PM
I am upset because this all became a circus.. The cops in Putnam to me are crooked. When you have a crooked county you have a crooked goverment..
I just wonder if LE and  goverment officals are receiving kick backs...The judge who let Snodgrass out on bond no collateral.  Why has nothing been done to S/O Snodgrass going to the HaleighBug Center... ::MonkeyTongue::

How can a criminal and SO be affiliated with a bail bonds company.. .Chucks bail bonds.. Why is Putnam turning a blind eye to all of this...MONEY.. .

Then we have CHARLES D INGRAM an S/O- I read was an ex palatka police officer..

Daniel Bass and S/O

Donals Sapp and S/O

Cobra keeps changing paths and  I really dont know if he knows more than us.. Maybe about the drug dealing and who they are.. But I Thank him for searching for Haleigh ...

One of true facts right now is...Haleigh was last seen with....Fibsty

Where is Haleigh ?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 25, 2009, 04:19:47 PM
 ::MonkeyDevil::

FACTS ARE FACTS   ::MonkeyDevil::

NOTHING CAN BE DISPUTED IN JERSEY'S POST


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 25, 2009, 04:39:40 PM
On Maries myspace photo page ....do we know who Ms. Julia is?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 25, 2009, 04:41:08 PM
::MonkeyDevil::

FACTS ARE FACTS   ::MonkeyDevil::

NOTHING CAN BE DISPUTED IN JERSEY'S POST
I'll second that


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 25, 2009, 04:47:31 PM

 
NOTICE OF ACTION   
Written by Notice     
Thursday, 07 May 2009 
IN THE CIRCUIT COURT, eighth judicial circuit, IN AND FOR BAKER COUNTY, FLORIDA
CASE NO.: 02-2009-0071-ca


In re: gene Harvey, as
    TAX COLLECTOR OF
    BAKER COUNTY, FLORIDA
______________________________/

NOTICE OF ACTION

TO: Delinquent Taxpayer Receiving This Notice

YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED that a Petition for Validation of Tax Warrant issued for unpaid 2007, Baker County Personal Property Taxes has been filed by Gene Harvey, Baker County Tax Collector, in which you are named as a party for nonpayment of 2007 Personal Property Taxes as assessed against you. Upon ratification and confirmation of the petition by the Court, the Tax Collector shall be authorized to issue a tax warrant against you, and levy upon, seize and sell so much of your personal property as necessary to satisfy the delinquent taxes, plus costs, interest, attorney’s fees, and other charges.
YOU WILL BE DISMISSED AS A PARTY TO THIS ACTION WITHOUT ANY COURT APPEARANCE BY YOU IF YOU PAY SAID DELINQUENT TAXES OWED BY YOU AND COSTS TO THE TAX COLLECTOR AT: 32 North 5th St., MACCLENNY, FLORIDA 32063, PRIOR TO THE FINAL HEARING SCHEDULED IN THIS MATTER.
You are further notified that a Final Hearing will be held in this matter on the 26th day of May, 2009, at the Baker County Courthouse in Macclenny, Baker County, Florida, at 10:40 a.m. before the Honorable Phyllis M. Rosier, Circuit Judge, at which time you or your attorney may present your objections, if any, to issuance of the Tax Warrant against you. The amount of the assessment or amount of taxes levied have been paid or not.
A copy of the Petition filed herein may be obtained at the office of the Clerk of the Circuit Court in Macclenny, Baker County, Florida, upon request.
WITNESS my hand and seal of this court on this 9th day of April, 2009.

LIST OF DEFENDANTS
1. 07-5001805
    FIBERSTEAM CARPET CLEANING
    6166 Adams Rd.
    Macclenny, FL 32063
2. 07-5002280
    BRUCE GRIFFIS
    12222 Mud Lake Rd.
    Glen St. Mary, FL 32040

3. 07-5003285
    MACCLENNY LIQUORS, INC.
    303 Macclenny Ave.
    Macclenny, FL 32063
4. 07-5003298
    MACCLENNY PEDIATRICS
    28 Macclenny Ave. W.
    Macclenny, FL 32063
5. 07-5003670
    NORRIS WOODWORKS, INC.
    10499 Mud Lake Rd.
    Glen St. Mary, FL 32040
6. 07-5005499
    PATRICIA D. GRAY REALTY
    1171 South 6th St.
    Macclenny, Fl 32063
7. 07-5006477
    NORRIS FARMS, INC.
    10499 Mud Lake Rd.
    Glen St. Mary, FL 32040
8. 07-5006665
    CREEKSIDE FARMS, INC.
    P.O. Box 1218
    Macclenny, FL 32063
9. 07-5007458
    CYPRESS  BAY BUILDERS, INC.
    5803 JB Hines Rd.
    Macclenny, FL 32063
10. 07-5007493
    RIVER ROAD ENTERPRISES, INC.
    4221 Deerfield Circle
    Jacksonville, FL 32234   
AL FRASER
As CLERK OF THE COURT
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 25, 2009, 04:57:35 PM
Do we have a list or partial tree of the Griffis,johns ,St.johns,sheffield names??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 25, 2009, 05:27:41 PM

 
NOTICE OF ACTION   
Written by Notice     
Thursday, 07 May 2009 
IN THE CIRCUIT COURT, eighth judicial circuit, IN AND FOR BAKER COUNTY, FLORIDA
CASE NO.: 02-2009-0071-ca


In re: gene Harvey, as
    TAX COLLECTOR OF
    BAKER COUNTY, FLORIDA
______________________________/

NOTICE OF ACTION

TO: Delinquent Taxpayer Receiving This Notice

YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED that a Petition for Validation of Tax Warrant issued for unpaid 2007, Baker County Personal Property Taxes has been filed by Gene Harvey, Baker County Tax Collector, in which you are named as a party for nonpayment of 2007 Personal Property Taxes as assessed against you. Upon ratification and confirmation of the petition by the Court, the Tax Collector shall be authorized to issue a tax warrant against you, and levy upon, seize and sell so much of your personal property as necessary to satisfy the delinquent taxes, plus costs, interest, attorney’s fees, and other charges.
YOU WILL BE DISMISSED AS A PARTY TO THIS ACTION WITHOUT ANY COURT APPEARANCE BY YOU IF YOU PAY SAID DELINQUENT TAXES OWED BY YOU AND COSTS TO THE TAX COLLECTOR AT: 32 North 5th St., MACCLENNY, FLORIDA 32063, PRIOR TO THE FINAL HEARING SCHEDULED IN THIS MATTER.
You are further notified that a Final Hearing will be held in this matter on the 26th day of May, 2009, at the Baker County Courthouse in Macclenny, Baker County, Florida, at 10:40 a.m. before the Honorable Phyllis M. Rosier, Circuit Judge, at which time you or your attorney may present your objections, if any, to issuance of the Tax Warrant against you. The amount of the assessment or amount of taxes levied have been paid or not.
A copy of the Petition filed herein may be obtained at the office of the Clerk of the Circuit Court in Macclenny, Baker County, Florida, upon request.
WITNESS my hand and seal of this court on this 9th day of April, 2009.

LIST OF DEFENDANTS
1. 07-5001805
    FIBERSTEAM CARPET CLEANING
    6166 Adams Rd.
    Macclenny, FL 32063
2. 07-5002280
    BRUCE GRIFFIS
    12222 Mud Lake Rd.
    Glen St. Mary, FL 32040

3. 07-5003285
    MACCLENNY LIQUORS, INC.
    303 Macclenny Ave.
    Macclenny, FL 32063
4. 07-5003298
    MACCLENNY PEDIATRICS
    28 Macclenny Ave. W.
    Macclenny, FL 32063
5. 07-5003670
    NORRIS WOODWORKS, INC.
    10499 Mud Lake Rd.
    Glen St. Mary, FL 32040
6. 07-5005499
    PATRICIA D. GRAY REALTY
    1171 South 6th St.
    Macclenny, Fl 32063
7. 07-5006477
    NORRIS FARMS, INC.
    10499 Mud Lake Rd.
    Glen St. Mary, FL 32040
8. 07-5006665
    CREEKSIDE FARMS, INC.
    P.O. Box 1218
    Macclenny, FL 32063
9. 07-5007458
    CYPRESS  BAY BUILDERS, INC.
    5803 JB Hines Rd.
    Macclenny, FL 32063
10. 07-5007493
    RIVER ROAD ENTERPRISES, INC.
    4221 Deerfield Circle
    Jacksonville, FL 32234   
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Bruce A Griffis
12222 Mud Lake Rd
Glen Saint Mary, FL 32040-6410
(904) 275-3471
 Nancy M Griffis,  Jr Griffis

http://www.whitepages.com/search/FindPerson?extra_listing=mixed&form_mode=opt_b&post_back=1&firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=bruce&name=griffis&street=&city_zip=Glen+St.+Mary&state_id=32040&localtime=survey


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 25, 2009, 05:31:43 PM
http://bakercountypress.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2122&Itemid=79

Haleigh’s relatives seek prayers   
Written by Joel Addington     
Thursday, 26 February 2009 


A note posted at the door of the school district’s transportation department addresses coworkers of Haleigh Cummings’ grandmother, a Glen St. Mary resident and school bus driver.

“We heard from Marie Griffis and she wanted everyone to know that she is thankful for all the thoughts and prayers from everyone. Please remember to keep them in your prayers,” reads the message, which also tells people how to donate to Haleigh’s family.

The missing 5-year-old’s mother, grandfather and grandaunt also live in Baker County. Ms. Griffis has remained camped with Haleigh’s mother, Crystal Cummings of Glen, near the abduction site in Putnam County since the investigation began.

The grandaunt, Patricia Yeomans, is also a Baker County school bus driver, and reminders of Haleigh can be found all over the bus garage on Lowder Street in Macclenny. There are notes on the bulletin board, employees wear Haleigh pins and each bus grill in the yard is adorned with a pink ribbon in her honor.

“She has a lot of friends here,” said Ms. Yeomans after finishing her route February 24. “We got to talking about how we could support Haleigh and Marie and help to get the word out. We decided on the bus ribbons and made pins and flyers. We’re working on having shirts made, too. I’m going to wear something everyday until she’s found.”

Concentrating on getting information out about the case has helped Ms. Yeomans cope with Haleigh’s disappearance. Talking about it and praying for her safe return has also comforted the family in recent weeks, she said.

“Anything to get the word out there and keep it out there and keep it in everyone’s memory. It could be a long time,” she said.

When asked how her family is handling the national media spotlight that’s been focused on the case, Ms. Yeomans said, “I’m sure it’s been hard on them, but it’s for Haleigh. If we have to stand in front of cameras and talk about Haleigh, we’ll stand there all day long.”

She asked that everyone keep praying for Haleigh, spread the word about her disappearance and circulate her picture.

“Anyone with information should call it in,” said Ms. Yeomans. “Even if it’s the smallest thing, call it in.”

Young Haleigh disappeared from her father’s mobile home near Satsuma on February 10, an event that soon caught the interest of media here in the United States and overseas.

 
 
Last Updated ( Thursday, 23 April 2009 ) 
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 25, 2009, 05:47:43 PM
http://bakercountypress.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2122&Itemid=79

Haleigh’s relatives seek prayers   
Written by Joel Addington     
Thursday, 26 February 2009 


A note posted at the door of the school district’s transportation department addresses coworkers of Haleigh Cummings’ grandmother, a Glen St. Mary resident and school bus driver.

“We heard from Marie Griffis and she wanted everyone to know that she is thankful for all the thoughts and prayers from everyone. Please remember to keep them in your prayers,” reads the message, which also tells people how to donate to Haleigh’s family.

The missing 5-year-old’s mother, grandfather and grandaunt also live in Baker County. Ms. Griffis has remained camped with Haleigh’s mother, Crystal Cummings of Glen, near the abduction site in Putnam County since the investigation began.

The grandaunt, Patricia Yeomans, is also a Baker County school bus driver, and reminders of Haleigh can be found all over the bus garage on Lowder Street in Macclenny. There are notes on the bulletin board, employees wear Haleigh pins and each bus grill in the yard is adorned with a pink ribbon in her honor.

“She has a lot of friends here,” said Ms. Yeomans after finishing her route February 24. “We got to talking about how we could support Haleigh and Marie and help to get the word out. We decided on the bus ribbons and made pins and flyers. We’re working on having shirts made, too. I’m going to wear something everyday until she’s found.”

Concentrating on getting information out about the case has helped Ms. Yeomans cope with Haleigh’s disappearance. Talking about it and praying for her safe return has also comforted the family in recent weeks, she said.

“Anything to get the word out there and keep it out there and keep it in everyone’s memory. It could be a long time,” she said.

When asked how her family is handling the national media spotlight that’s been focused on the case, Ms. Yeomans said, “I’m sure it’s been hard on them, but it’s for Haleigh. If we have to stand in front of cameras and talk about Haleigh, we’ll stand there all day long.”

She asked that everyone keep praying for Haleigh, spread the word about her disappearance and circulate her picture.

“Anyone with information should call it in,” said Ms. Yeomans. “Even if it’s the smallest thing, call it in.”

Young Haleigh disappeared from her father’s mobile home near Satsuma on February 10, an event that soon caught the interest of media here in the United States and overseas.

 
 
Last Updated ( Thursday, 23 April 2009 ) 
 

very very good, we have a new family member name. Yeomans. World gets smaller everyday.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 25, 2009, 06:05:06 PM
The post below is in reference to Misty and Jr while at the clinic.

MyLipsRSealed (Jacksonville, FL) says:

Locally (near the Satsuma area), they say she thumped him on the back of the head with a finger while at a local health clinic. Not proven, but widely spread.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35648



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 25, 2009, 06:18:35 PM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Animation23.gif)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Gizzie on May 25, 2009, 06:28:30 PM
Ooh, I love this one, Brandi, nice work!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 25, 2009, 06:33:18 PM
Ooh, I love this one, Brandi, nice work!

Sometimes it is nice to see Haleigh with important people in her life.

And, I have been learning some new artistic techniques while I took a little break from daily posting. Glad you like it. Thank you.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 25, 2009, 06:52:08 PM
Ooh, I love this one, Brandi, nice work!

Sometimes it is nice to see Haleigh with important people in her life.

And, I have been learning some new artistic techniques while I took a little break from daily posting. Glad you like it. Thank you.

Yes Brandi, that is very lovely.  Thank you!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 25, 2009, 07:04:56 PM
Thank-you Brandi  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 25, 2009, 07:11:34 PM
2Spunky says:

Guess everyone knows Crystal was at the Blue Crab Festival in Palatka this weekend selling t-shirts and carrying around her donation jars?

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35670


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 25, 2009, 07:19:58 PM
The post below is in reference to Misty and Jr while at the clinic.

MyLipsRSealed (Jacksonville, FL) says:

Locally (near the Satsuma area), they say she thumped him on the back of the head with a finger while at a local health clinic. Not proven, but widely spread.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35648



MyLipsRSealed (Jacksonville, FL) says:

hey, i'm just telling you what one of the locals who claimed to be there said. they said it was so harmless that it normally wouldn't even have fazed them had it not been Misty and they were paying attention to how she acted around jr. they did say it had been blown way out of proportion but you'd think she'd have known all eyes would be on her. wonder how she got him there since she has no license?

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35664


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: lady on May 25, 2009, 07:26:41 PM
The post below is in reference to Misty and Jr while at the clinic.

MyLipsRSealed (Jacksonville, FL) says:

Locally (near the Satsuma area), they say she thumped him on the back of the head with a finger while at a local health clinic. Not proven, but widely spread.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35648



MyLipsRSealed (Jacksonville, FL) says:

hey, i'm just telling you what one of the locals who claimed to be there said. they said it was so harmless that it normally wouldn't even have fazed them had it not been Misty and they were paying attention to how she acted around jr. they did say it had been blown way out of proportion but you'd think she'd have known all eyes would be on her. wonder how she got him there since she has no license?

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35664
Oh heart im sure we will hear alot of different opinions on her actions..Anything said over there I chalk up as bs..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 25, 2009, 07:41:10 PM
The post below is in reference to Misty and Jr while at the clinic.

MyLipsRSealed (Jacksonville, FL) says:

Locally (near the Satsuma area), they say she thumped him on the back of the head with a finger while at a local health clinic. Not proven, but widely spread.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35648



MyLipsRSealed (Jacksonville, FL) says:

hey, i'm just telling you what one of the locals who claimed to be there said. they said it was so harmless that it normally wouldn't even have fazed them had it not been Misty and they were paying attention to how she acted around jr. they did say it had been blown way out of proportion but you'd think she'd have known all eyes would be on her. wonder how she got him there since she has no license?

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35664
Oh heart im sure we will hear alot of different opinions on her actions..Anything said over there I chalk up as bs..
It appears a lot of what anyone says just about anywhere in this case is bs.

However I don't discount everything just because of where it is posted.

And I don't assume that just because something is posted somewhere it is fact.

We've been there before in this case.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 25, 2009, 07:45:06 PM
Thank-you Brandi  ::MonkeyAngel::

Beautiful, Brandi.  I am happy to see her family amongst the pics you post.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: MuffyBee on May 25, 2009, 07:50:58 PM
Thank-you Brandi  ::MonkeyAngel::

Beautiful, Brandi.  I am happy to see her family amongst the pics you post.

I agree.  Very beautiful, Brandi. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 25, 2009, 07:52:55 PM
This is of course...way O/T...but I wanted you all to see.  This happened about 20 minutes from where I live.  I had heard on the radio about someone being reported, and a description of the person and vehicle.  Here is the news report on the arrest and the offender.  Adding that I live in Canada.

Florida Man Nabbed in Luring Case

Posted by Andrea on Friday, May 22nd, 2009 pm 4:45:43 PM
With the assistance of a keen citizen and Dryden OPP, The Dryden Police Service is please to advise the officers caught Kenneth Luedtke age 68 of Florida Today at Canadian Tire. The arrest was made in relation to the child luring investigation from May 5th. Luedtke will be held in custody, pending further investigation. The Dryden Police would like to thank the citizens of Dryden for their assistance in bringing a quick end to this disturbing investigation.

Did a bit of checking the white pages...


Kenneth R Luedtke

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 25, 2009, 08:48:20 PM
Hi Brandi,

Thank-you for elegant welcome sign. Did you also do the razzle dazzle seahorse? I saw two seahorses, both are great.
Was one yours? Thank-you. Keep up your nice work, we all need beauty.

Seahorse


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 25, 2009, 08:50:05 PM
The post below is in reference to Misty and Jr while at the clinic.

MyLipsRSealed (Jacksonville, FL) says:

Locally (near the Satsuma area), they say she thumped him on the back of the head with a finger while at a local health clinic. Not proven, but widely spread.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35648



MyLipsRSealed (Jacksonville, FL) says:

hey, i'm just telling you what one of the locals who claimed to be there said. they said it was so harmless that it normally wouldn't even have fazed them had it not been Misty and they were paying attention to how she acted around jr. they did say it had been blown way out of proportion but you'd think she'd have known all eyes would be on her. wonder how she got him there since she has no license?

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35664
Oh heart im sure we will hear alot of different opinions on her actions..Anything said over there I chalk up as bs..
It appears a lot of what anyone says just about anywhere in this case is bs.

However I don't discount everything just because of where it is posted.

And I don't assume that just because something is posted somewhere it is fact.

We've been there before in this case.

Best thing to really do, is just put it on the rumor pile and lets wait until Le or DCS does something, if they don't..  then you know it isn't a big deal, if they do then you know it was true. Better than trying to second guess.  Best not to take side on the issue. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 25, 2009, 08:59:55 PM
Do we have a list or partial tree of the Griffis,johns ,St.johns,sheffield names??

This was compiled by the Mod's.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4570.0;wap2

I don't know who Ms Julie is.. I did realize that the two little girls, one of course was Haleigh.. all dressed up, and the other is Haleigh's Aunt, Crystal's little sister. I had not realized her baby sister was so young.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 25, 2009, 09:06:28 PM
Do we have a list or partial tree of the Griffis,johns ,St.johns,sheffield names??

This was compiled by the Mod's.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4570.0;wap2

I don't know who Ms Julie is.. I did realize that the two little girls, one of course was Haleigh.. all dressed up, and the other is Haleigh's Aunt, Crystal's little sister. I had not realized her baby sister was so young.

Thank you mlee  .....I appreciate it!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 25, 2009, 09:21:38 PM
The post below is in reference to Misty and Jr while at the clinic.

MyLipsRSealed (Jacksonville, FL) says:

Locally (near the Satsuma area), they say she thumped him on the back of the head with a finger while at a local health clinic. Not proven, but widely spread.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35648



MyLipsRSealed (Jacksonville, FL) says:

hey, i'm just telling you what one of the locals who claimed to be there said. they said it was so harmless that it normally wouldn't even have fazed them had it not been Misty and they were paying attention to how she acted around jr. they did say it had been blown way out of proportion but you'd think she'd have known all eyes would be on her. wonder how she got him there since she has no license?

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35664
Oh heart im sure we will hear alot of different opinions on her actions..Anything said over there I chalk up as bs..
It appears a lot of what anyone says just about anywhere in this case is bs.

However I don't discount everything just because of where it is posted.

And I don't assume that just because something is posted somewhere it is fact.

We've been there before in this case.

Best thing to really do, is just put it on the rumor pile and lets wait until Le or DCS does something, if they don't..  then you know it isn't a big deal, if they do then you know it was true. Better than trying to second guess.  Best not to take side on the issue. 

Then just about everything that has been posted on these threads should be moved to the rumor thread including your posts.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 25, 2009, 09:30:09 PM
The post below is in reference to Misty and Jr while at the clinic.

MyLipsRSealed (Jacksonville, FL) says:

Locally (near the Satsuma area), they say she thumped him on the back of the head with a finger while at a local health clinic. Not proven, but widely spread.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35648



MyLipsRSealed (Jacksonville, FL) says:

hey, i'm just telling you what one of the locals who claimed to be there said. they said it was so harmless that it normally wouldn't even have fazed them had it not been Misty and they were paying attention to how she acted around jr. they did say it had been blown way out of proportion but you'd think she'd have known all eyes would be on her. wonder how she got him there since she has no license?

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35664
Oh heart im sure we will hear alot of different opinions on her actions..Anything said over there I chalk up as bs..
It appears a lot of what anyone says just about anywhere in this case is bs.

However I don't discount everything just because of where it is posted.

And I don't assume that just because something is posted somewhere it is fact.

We've been there before in this case.

Best thing to really do, is just put it on the rumor pile and lets wait until Le or DCS does something, if they don't..  then you know it isn't a big deal, if they do then you know it was true. Better than trying to second guess.  Best not to take side on the issue. 

Then just about everything that has been posted on these threads should be moved to the rumor thread including your posts.

Also, I have not and will not take either side, for the simple fact that I am well aware that I do not know any of the individuals involved. So therefore I cannot say what any of them are or are not capable of.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 25, 2009, 09:34:01 PM
The post below is in reference to Misty and Jr while at the clinic.

MyLipsRSealed (Jacksonville, FL) says:

Locally (near the Satsuma area), they say she thumped him on the back of the head with a finger while at a local health clinic. Not proven, but widely spread.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35648



MyLipsRSealed (Jacksonville, FL) says:

hey, i'm just telling you what one of the locals who claimed to be there said. they said it was so harmless that it normally wouldn't even have fazed them had it not been Misty and they were paying attention to how she acted around jr. they did say it had been blown way out of proportion but you'd think she'd have known all eyes would be on her. wonder how she got him there since she has no license?

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35664
Oh heart im sure we will hear alot of different opinions on her actions..Anything said over there I chalk up as bs..
It appears a lot of what anyone says just about anywhere in this case is bs.

However I don't discount everything just because of where it is posted.

And I don't assume that just because something is posted somewhere it is fact.

We've been there before in this case.

Best thing to really do, is just put it on the rumor pile and lets wait until Le or DCS does something, if they don't..  then you know it isn't a big deal, if they do then you know it was true. Better than trying to second guess.  Best not to take side on the issue. 

Then just about everything that has been posted on these threads should be moved to the rumor thread including your posts.

Your probably right Heart.. Because right now we have a Cold Case, and nothing we had from the past is going to do us any good.  So, do we go forward looking on the other side of the street for Haleigh, or do we just stop.  And to date, I have seen very little over at Topix, that hasn't generally come from over here.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 25, 2009, 09:58:29 PM
The post below is in reference to Misty and Jr while at the clinic.

MyLipsRSealed (Jacksonville, FL) says:

Locally (near the Satsuma area), they say she thumped him on the back of the head with a finger while at a local health clinic. Not proven, but widely spread.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35648



MyLipsRSealed (Jacksonville, FL) says:

hey, i'm just telling you what one of the locals who claimed to be there said. they said it was so harmless that it normally wouldn't even have fazed them had it not been Misty and they were paying attention to how she acted around jr. they did say it had been blown way out of proportion but you'd think she'd have known all eyes would be on her. wonder how she got him there since she has no license?

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35664
Oh heart im sure we will hear alot of different opinions on her actions..Anything said over there I chalk up as bs..
It appears a lot of what anyone says just about anywhere in this case is bs.

However I don't discount everything just because of where it is posted.

And I don't assume that just because something is posted somewhere it is fact.

We've been there before in this case.

Best thing to really do, is just put it on the rumor pile and lets wait until Le or DCS does something, if they don't..  then you know it isn't a big deal, if they do then you know it was true. Better than trying to second guess.  Best not to take side on the issue. 

Then just about everything that has been posted on these threads should be moved to the rumor thread including your posts.

Your probably right Heart.. Because right now we have a Cold Case, and nothing we had from the past is going to do us any good.  So, do we go forward looking on the other side of the street for Haleigh, or do we just stop.  And to date, I have seen very little over at Topix, that hasn't generally come from over here.

And everything over here comes from somewhere else.  I don't think that we have anyone on the ground in Satsuma or Palatka actually investigating this case.  We get our info from newspapers, cable news, blogs, via the net,etc.. You may not like Topix, but that is your choice.  However imho  there are some things that have been useful that has been posted there and it did not come from here.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 25, 2009, 10:27:32 PM
Hi Brandi,

Thank-you for elegant welcome sign. Did you also do the razzle dazzle seahorse? I saw two seahorses, both are great.
Was one yours? Thank-you. Keep up your nice work, we all need beauty.

Seahorse

Thank you, Seahorse. No, I did not post a seahorse or make one that was posted in this thread.

I did, however create one for you at: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4314.msg816752#msg816752

I agree, the beauty and humor at times, is very important to helping us focus on why we are here and being able to cope with the tragedies.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 25, 2009, 10:42:47 PM
#121  Art Harris Says:
May 25th, 2009 at 11:34 am

This comes from a reader…just copied from my in box. Happy Memorial Day to all. Art

Dear Sir,

Thank you very much for your dedication to this little girls case. I hope, against increasing odds, that she is found alive and will recover from whatever terrors she has experienced away from her family.

In light of all the child abduction/murder stories that have been increasingly exposed, all any parent can ask is please, please, keep this story alive! I wish you, the detectives of the Putnam County PD, William Eugene Staubs (Cobra), Jan and Simon Barrett the very best with your efforts.

Not everyone comes from the very best of circumstances, even those that do are capable of being ‘bad’ people.

The next time you see Ron Cummings, please tell him, people out here - like me - wish him and his family continued strength for him, his ex - Crystal Sheffield, and his current wife Misty and they are in our prayers.

With respect, Sara

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/#comments


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 25, 2009, 10:45:31 PM
Hi Brandi,

Thank-you for elegant welcome sign. Did you also do the razzle dazzle seahorse? I saw two seahorses, both are great.
Was one yours? Thank-you. Keep up your nice work, we all need beauty.

Seahorse

Thank you, Seahorse. No, I did not post a seahorse or make one that was posted in this thread.

I did, however create one for you at: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4314.msg816752#msg816752

I agree, the beauty and humor at times, is very important to helping us focus on why we are here and being able to cope with the tragedies.

Hey Brandi...have been out of town and barely here but I am so pleased that you are joining us again! did you get caught up on the stuff that you were doing?
xxxx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 25, 2009, 10:47:11 PM
thanks Heart for the article...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 25, 2009, 11:20:22 PM
Beautiful picture Brandi....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 26, 2009, 01:33:50 AM
Haleigh and her little sister,   I love this picture,


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 26, 2009, 08:22:03 AM
Haleigh and her little sister,   I love this picture,

very sweet picture....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 26, 2009, 08:24:50 AM
Good Morning Monkeys and Guests!

laujorlyn (Tallahassee, FL Tallahassee, F) says:

Misty (and that is her name) did go to the hospital. She is not pregnant.
She was discharged after a few hours.

Of course we do not have a dx but she is not pg.

This information came from someone who was at the hosptial when she was there.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35700


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 26, 2009, 08:49:51 AM
Good Morning Monkeys and Guests!

laujorlyn (Tallahassee, FL Tallahassee, F) says:

Misty (and that is her name) did go to the hospital. She is not pregnant.
She was discharged after a few hours.

Of course we do not have a dx but she is not pg.

This information came from someone who was at the hosptial when she was there.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35700

morning!
did you read the post over there by BS? kindof agree with some of that post...Ron has shown more restraint as far as bad mouthing Crystal....jmo...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mioyshi on May 26, 2009, 08:53:49 AM
Good Moring  All Monkeys ,
No new news from me, but, I did read this article, telling of how fdle is making a new way of identifying bodies they find. Apparently, there are over 50 thousand known bodies, without identifications  nationwide!!   Now, that is a head shaker for sure . ::MonkeyNoNo::


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-cold-cases-missing-link-fdle-052609,0,2379006.story


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 26, 2009, 08:57:02 AM
Good Morning all!  I haven't been on in a little bit and have some catching up to do, but first I wanted to pop in and say Hi    :2waver:
I ust got through listening to simon barretts latest.  I'm glad cobra is doing well and still looking for Haleigh.  Mlee did you listen to simons show?  Our friend the bail agent was on and I really like how cobra handled him  ::MonkeyHaHa::  He can say what he wants but one can tell he only wants his 15 minutes of fame and to sock it to cobra in the public spotlight, well that sure backfired on him didn't it.   ::MonkeyHaHa::  He even told me when we were chatting on simons comments that he couldn't say much because he might be called as a witness in the case, well I wonder why he called into simons show then, and why did he start commenting on the blog?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 26, 2009, 09:03:43 AM
Good Morning Monkeys and Guests!

laujorlyn (Tallahassee, FL Tallahassee, F) says:

Misty (and that is her name) did go to the hospital. She is not pregnant.
She was discharged after a few hours.

Of course we do not have a dx but she is not pg.

This information came from someone who was at the hosptial when she was there.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35700

morning!
did you read the post over there by BS? kindof agree with some of that post...Ron has shown more restraint as far as bad mouthing Crystal....jmo...

Good morning cookie!  Yes I did read that and I agree with it.  It should make one stop and ponder at least for a moment.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 26, 2009, 09:09:32 AM
Good Morning all!  I haven't been on in a little bit and have some catching up to do, but first I wanted to pop in and say Hi    :2waver:
I ust got through listening to simon barretts latest.  I'm glad cobra is doing well and still looking for Haleigh.  Mlee did you listen to simons show?  Our friend the bail agent was on and I really like how cobra handled him  ::MonkeyHaHa::  He can say what he wants but one can tell he only wants his 15 minutes of fame and to sock it to cobra in the public spotlight, well that sure backfired on him didn't it.   ::MonkeyHaHa::  He even told me when we were chatting on simons comments that he couldn't say much because he might be called as a witness in the case, well I wonder why he called into simons show then, and why did he start commenting on the blog?

I was so tickled when he claimed he didn't say things he did, and Cobra minded him he had everything on tape.. The man responded with,  Well you didn't tell me  I was being taped, and Cobra said, Man its written all over the outside of my truck, that recordings and video were in progress, you saw the cameras.  The man.. Shut up at that point, and was off the air...  Now, who's not telling the truth..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 26, 2009, 09:10:54 AM
Good Morning all!  I haven't been on in a little bit and have some catching up to do, but first I wanted to pop in and say Hi    :2waver:
I ust got through listening to simon barretts latest.  I'm glad cobra is doing well and still looking for Haleigh.  Mlee did you listen to simons show?  Our friend the bail agent was on and I really like how cobra handled him  ::MonkeyHaHa::  He can say what he wants but one can tell he only wants his 15 minutes of fame and to sock it to cobra in the public spotlight, well that sure backfired on him didn't it.   ::MonkeyHaHa::  He even told me when we were chatting on simons comments that he couldn't say much because he might be called as a witness in the case, well I wonder why he called into simons show then, and why did he start commenting on the blog?

JNGA, the bail agent is also posting on Art Harris' site as well.

#105  bailagent328 Says:
May 25th, 2009 at 1:30 am

Mr. Harris

I would like to clear the air about this “wire” situation …..to be completly honest i don’t recall the exact conversation …….. if in fact I did say i thought he should be arrested ……there is one major difference last time i checked…… a statement made does constitute action . I mean to say that i could say i would like to arrest someone ….however that doesn’t mean i have the authority …… to actually take that person into custody

thank you

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/#comments


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 26, 2009, 09:23:47 AM
Good Moring  All Monkeys ,
No new news from me, but, I did read this article, telling of how fdle is making a new way of identifying bodies they find. Apparently, there are over 50 thousand known bodies, without identifications  nationwide!!   Now, that is a head shaker for sure . ::MonkeyNoNo::


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-cold-cases-missing-link-fdle-052609,0,2379006.story

morning Mio...that is indeed a head shaker!! unreal!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mioyshi on May 26, 2009, 09:30:09 AM
Good Moring  All Monkeys ,
No new news from me, but, I did read this article, telling of how fdle is making a new way of identifying bodies they find. Apparently, there are over 50 thousand known bodies, without identifications  nationwide!!   Now, that is a head shaker for sure . ::MonkeyNoNo::


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-cold-cases-missing-link-fdle-052609,0,2379006.story

morning Mio...that is indeed a head shaker!! unreal!

  Morning Cookie, and yes, sort of makes one want to offer help to fdle doesnt it? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 26, 2009, 09:50:52 AM
I know Mlee I was loving simons show   ::MonkeyDance::  and couldn't believe he called in, because he said that he could be called as a witness and couldn't say much, yet he seems like he wants to say a lot.   

Thanks Heart I hadn't read that one yet.  Well there goes mr. bailagent328's credibility out the window.  I'm wondering now if his agency will lose the contract for mr. snodgrass's collar tracking, because we don't need this person who is caught lieing to be monitoring a accused sex offender charged with very bad crimes on children who will stand trial in the next month.  I feel like he'll run, but I hope he doesn't. 

And I've said it before and I'll say it again about the collar snod was wearing...They thought the titannic to be unsinkable didn't they...Man can do anything he sets his mind to...all he has to do is think of a way! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 26, 2009, 09:50:59 AM
Good Morning, just shaking my head with all the side circus events that are happening.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 26, 2009, 10:27:50 AM
Good Morning, just shaking my head with all the side circus events that are happening.

Please shake it slowly, because as this continues.. you will be shaking your head a long long time. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 26, 2009, 10:30:34 AM
I know Mlee I was loving simons show   ::MonkeyDance::  and couldn't believe he called in, because he said that he could be called as a witness and couldn't say much, yet he seems like he wants to say a lot.   

Thanks Heart I hadn't read that one yet.  Well there goes mr. bailagent328's credibility out the window.  I'm wondering now if his agency will lose the contract for mr. snodgrass's collar tracking, because we don't need this person who is caught lieing to be monitoring a accused sex offender charged with very bad crimes on children who will stand trial in the next month.  I feel like he'll run, but I hope he doesn't. 

And I've said it before and I'll say it again about the collar snod was wearing...They thought the titannic to be unsinkable didn't they...Man can do anything he sets his mind to...all he has to do is think of a way! 

That entire interview, actually keep me on my toes.. Good call in questions..  Did you read my question to Ms. Pickles, I just left.
I wanted confirmation that - Art had made that statement.  Also, in Ms. Pickles introduction the other day.. She left a message, and I believe it was directed over here to SM.. "I'm not Drunk",


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 26, 2009, 10:46:35 AM
Good Morning, just shaking my head with all the side circus events that are happening.

Please shake it slowly, because as this continues.. you will be shaking your head a long long time. 
You got that right, I'm very disgusted by it all, and I don't believe that LE have a clue in what has happened here at all. I hate to say that, but that is how I feel.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 26, 2009, 11:25:13 AM
Good Morning, just shaking my head with all the side circus events that are happening.

Please shake it slowly, because as this continues.. you will be shaking your head a long long time. 
You got that right, I'm very disgusted by it all, and I don't believe that LE have a clue in what has happened here at all. I hate to say that, but that is how I feel.

What ever they do know, they are not going to share.  I have thought maybe they have figured the entire thing out, and just waiting for someone to slip up.  And then I thought maybe they don't have anymore than what we have.  So much, he said, she said out there. It's very hard to know the exact truth. Cobra is between a rock and a hard spot right now.. With these charges vented against him, he may have his investigative license removed, which would put him in our place.  He could still visit with people, but not in an official capacity.   But, lets be honest about this.. sometimes as just a private citizen, you can go set in a little local place to eat,  make friends with the neighbors who linger over a cup of coffee, and they will tell you everything they know and what they have heard.  Go, hang out at a bar with the locals, and you will learn a lot more about the night life in town, all surrounds being buddies with the locals, they will tell each other everything, and the press or investigators nothing.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Cappuccino on May 26, 2009, 12:15:42 PM
Good Morning all!  I haven't been on in a little bit and have some catching up to do, but first I wanted to pop in and say Hi    :2waver:
I ust got through listening to simon barretts latest.  I'm glad cobra is doing well and still looking for Haleigh.  Mlee did you listen to simons show?  Our friend the bail agent was on and I really like how cobra handled him  ::MonkeyHaHa::  He can say what he wants but one can tell he only wants his 15 minutes of fame and to sock it to cobra in the public spotlight, well that sure backfired on him didn't it.   ::MonkeyHaHa::  He even told me when we were chatting on simons comments that he couldn't say much because he might be called as a witness in the case, well I wonder why he called into simons show then, and why did he start commenting on the blog?

JNGA, the bail agent is also posting on Art Harris' site as well.

#105  bailagent328 Says:
May 25th, 2009 at 1:30 am

Mr. Harris

I would like to clear the air about this “wire” situation …..to be completly honest i don’t recall the exact conversation …….. if in fact I did say i thought he should be arrested ……there is one major difference last time i checked…… a statement made does constitute action . I mean to say that i could say i would like to arrest someone ….however that doesn’t mean i have the authority …… to actually take that person into custody

thank you

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/#comments

Here is the thing that cracked me up, this dude was trying to call out Cobra & gain his own 15 minutes yet he had no problem under his monitoring of a capitol felony sex offender showing up where children are 3 times & inserting himself into a case involving a missing child/possibly worse...what does that say about him?   Seems to me his real motive was to take away attention from that & he resents Cobra for taking action when he should have on the first offense of Snodgrass breaking his bail conditions.   By his first post over there it should have been clear to everyone immediately that he was a complete putz!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cece on May 26, 2009, 12:16:51 PM
Good Morning, just shaking my head with all the side circus events that are happening.

Please shake it slowly, because as this continues.. you will be shaking your head a long long time. 
You got that right, I'm very disgusted by it all, and I don't believe that LE have a clue in what has happened here at all. I hate to say that, but that is how I feel.

What ever they do know, they are not going to share.  I have thought maybe they have figured the entire thing out, and just waiting for someone to slip up.  And then I thought maybe they don't have anymore than what we have.   So much, he said, she said out there. It's very hard to know the exact truth. Cobra is between a rock and a hard spot right now.. With these charges vented against him, he may have his investigative license removed, which would put him in our place.  He could still visit with people, but not in an official capacity.   But, lets be honest about this.. sometimes as just a private citizen, you can go set in a little local place to eat,  make friends with the neighbors who linger over a cup of coffee, and they will tell you everything they know and what they have heard.  Go, hang out at a bar with the locals, and you will learn a lot more about the night life in town, all surrounds being buddies with the locals, they will tell each other everything, and the press or investigators nothing.

This is the way I've been.  I don't know if LE have a good idea of what happened, or if they just don't know.  I would like to hold out hope, for Haleigh's sake, that they have a good idea.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 26, 2009, 12:44:46 PM
Good Morning all!  I haven't been on in a little bit and have some catching up to do, but first I wanted to pop in and say Hi    :2waver:
I ust got through listening to simon barretts latest.  I'm glad cobra is doing well and still looking for Haleigh.  Mlee did you listen to simons show?  Our friend the bail agent was on and I really like how cobra handled him  ::MonkeyHaHa::  He can say what he wants but one can tell he only wants his 15 minutes of fame and to sock it to cobra in the public spotlight, well that sure backfired on him didn't it.   ::MonkeyHaHa::  He even told me when we were chatting on simons comments that he couldn't say much because he might be called as a witness in the case, well I wonder why he called into simons show then, and why did he start commenting on the blog?

JNGA, the bail agent is also posting on Art Harris' site as well.

#105  bailagent328 Says:
May 25th, 2009 at 1:30 am

Mr. Harris

I would like to clear the air about this “wire” situation …..to be completly honest i don’t recall the exact conversation …….. if in fact I did say i thought he should be arrested ……there is one major difference last time i checked…… a statement made does constitute action . I mean to say that i could say i would like to arrest someone ….however that doesn’t mean i have the authority …… to actually take that person into custody

thank you

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/#comments

Here is the thing that cracked me up, this dude was trying to call out Cobra & gain his own 15 minutes yet he had no problem under his monitoring of a capitol felony sex offender showing up where children are 3 times & inserting himself into a case involving a missing child/possibly worse...what does that say about him?   Seems to me his real motive was to take away attention from that & he resents Cobra for taking action when he should have on the first offense of Snodgrass breaking his bail conditions.   By his first post over there it should have been clear to everyone immediately that he was a complete putz!

Good morning/afternoon and I agree with everything you just stated. My take on it after hearing him speak is that this guy mucked up and he knows it. Why else was he was inserting himself in the online sites and callling into the radio show? I'm thinking that it is due the fact that he wasn't doing his job of monitoring Snodgrass like he should have been. I believe he is correct about possibly being called in as a witness. I have a feeling that he will brought in to court along with all of his internet communications.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 26, 2009, 03:16:21 PM

Bounty hunter from Haleigh case charged

Cummings attorney: We are not involved



Updated: Tuesday, 26 May 2009, 1:01 PM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 26 May 2009, 12:55 PM EDT

SATSUMA, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - On Tuesday, attorneys representing Haleigh Cumming's family said they are not involved in a civil case involving a bounty hunter who was was charged over the weekend with falsely imprisoning a man who was free on bail on a child-sex charge.

William Eugene Staubs, 51, who goes by the name “Cobra,” was arrested Friday after police said he handcuffed 55-year-old Daniel Everett Snodgrass March 20 and held him against his will for about an hour.

On Tuesday, the attorney’s representing the Cummings released a statement that said they were not involved in the civil case about Cobra’s false imprisonment. “Snodgrass was formerly, before being ruled out, a person of interest in Haleigh’s disappearance,” the statement read.

Cobra was allegedly taped by news reporter Art Harris during the imprisonment and interrogation of Snodgrass. “Cobra and Art Harris have shared information and collaborated in this case,” attorney's also wrote in the statement.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/052609cummings_statement


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Cappuccino on May 26, 2009, 03:53:26 PM

Bounty hunter from Haleigh case charged

Cummings attorney: We are not involved



Updated: Tuesday, 26 May 2009, 1:01 PM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 26 May 2009, 12:55 PM EDT

SATSUMA, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - On Tuesday, attorneys representing Haleigh Cumming's family said they are not involved in a civil case involving a bounty hunter who was was charged over the weekend with falsely imprisoning a man who was free on bail on a child-sex charge.

William Eugene Staubs, 51, who goes by the name “Cobra,” was arrested Friday after police said he handcuffed 55-year-old Daniel Everett Snodgrass March 20 and held him against his will for about an hour.

On Tuesday, the attorney’s representing the Cummings released a statement that said they were not involved in the civil case about Cobra’s false imprisonment. “Snodgrass was formerly, before being ruled out, a person of interest in Haleigh’s disappearance,” the statement read.

Cobra was allegedly taped by news reporter Art Harris during the imprisonment and interrogation of Snodgrass. “Cobra and Art Harris have shared information and collaborated in this case,” attorney's also wrote in the statement.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/052609cummings_statement

The article is unclear which attorneys since both Haleigh's parents have an attorney or attorneys.  By "Cummings" do they indeed mean Ron's attorneys?  Foxorlando should have clarified this better & delved further.  If it is indeed KP she best be careful with her statements because word has it there is proof that she made a few phone calls & one has to wonder why she gave the money to post nay-nay & Amber's bonds...hinky meter way up.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 26, 2009, 04:30:34 PM
Good afternoon monkeys....I think we all have our own opinions of what we think may have happened myself included.....but we cannot get tunnel vision....we must keep exploring all avenues....there may be something that we have overlooked or something that we have not discovered yet....one time I was looking for a cap to an ink pen that I was writing with , I looked eveywhere after exhausting myself I went to let out a sigh of defeat and the cap blew right out of my mouth I had been sub-consciencely chewing on it the whole time! lol....the answers are there somewhere so lets take a deep breath and put our thinking caps on.....GO MONKEYS! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 26, 2009, 04:42:26 PM
This is an old video but I had not seen it before....take a look and pay close attention to the people here , there may be clues...towards the end when the family is coming out just as MC and RC pass by Crystal there is a young guy behind Misty but in front of Sykes.....does anyone know who this is????

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-02-16/story/search_for_haleigh_scales_back


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Cappuccino on May 26, 2009, 05:08:23 PM
Good Morning Monkeys and Guests!

laujorlyn (Tallahassee, FL Tallahassee, F) says:

Misty (and that is her name) did go to the hospital. She is not pregnant.
She was discharged after a few hours.

Of course we do not have a dx but she is not pg.

This information came from someone who was at the hosptial when she was there.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post35700

morning!
did you read the post over there by BS? kindof agree with some of that post...Ron has shown more restraint as far as bad mouthing Crystal....jmo...


Good morning cookie!  Yes I did read that and I agree with it.  It should make one stop and ponder at least for a moment.

He has all along even before being lawyered up, when he did have to answer to mudslinging & allegations it was brief at best in comparison to the barrage begun by Marie as others followed - that is how it went down, merit or not - like it or not,  it is what it is.   If everyone recalls he always brought it back to searching for Haleigh.  Look they ALL have issues that are questionable & unacceptable but your point is well taken & should be duly noted by everyone.  The rest is a massive hott mess & Im not out ruling anyone nor siding with a particular side, I'm on the victim's side, in this case that is Haleigh.   There is a reason I'm not a cop, I'd have locked them all up in one big room until one of them fessed up to something that would lead to what happened to Haleigh - its highly improbable that this is a stranger abduction.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 26, 2009, 05:10:15 PM
Something I have been wondering about here.

The weekend prior to Haleigh's dissapearance it was said that Amber Brooks and Misty had nearly gone to blows over the message that Misty had put in Amber's comments section of her "My Space" page.
"i got ur man and i will have ur baby to"

Nay Nay said she had dropped Misty off at her Brother's house. (I'm assuming she meant Misty's Brother's house.)
Nay Nay then stated that at some point she allowed Amber Brooks to borrow her car and that Amber had gotten the car stuck in the mud and that there was a dent in the trunk.
There was more to that story but what I am wondering is what (if any) significance this would have on Haleigh's disappearance?
That is a lot of information and I am wondering exactly why Nay Nay would share all of that publicly if she thought it were significant to the case? Why not take that information straight to LE?
Also I have not seen anything where Amber is disputing anything that Nay Nay said.

We've heard from Nay Nay and WBG about that night but no so much from Amber Brooks...why?







Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 26, 2009, 05:13:37 PM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing65.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 26, 2009, 05:16:35 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mostpopular/story/The-search-for-Haleigh-continues/xSJ8-u1rW0CysJ2g29cRFw.cspx

new article on cobra....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 26, 2009, 05:17:14 PM

Bounty hunter from Haleigh case charged

Cummings attorney: We are not involved



Updated: Tuesday, 26 May 2009, 1:01 PM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 26 May 2009, 12:55 PM EDT

SATSUMA, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - On Tuesday, attorneys representing Haleigh Cumming's family said they are not involved in a civil case involving a bounty hunter who was was charged over the weekend with falsely imprisoning a man who was free on bail on a child-sex charge.

William Eugene Staubs, 51, who goes by the name “Cobra,” was arrested Friday after police said he handcuffed 55-year-old Daniel Everett Snodgrass March 20 and held him against his will for about an hour.

On Tuesday, the attorney’s representing the Cummings released a statement that said they were not involved in the civil case about Cobra’s false imprisonment. “Snodgrass was formerly, before being ruled out, a person of interest in Haleigh’s disappearance,” the statement read.

Cobra was allegedly taped by news reporter Art Harris during the imprisonment and interrogation of Snodgrass. “Cobra and Art Harris have shared information and collaborated in this case,” attorney's also wrote in the statement.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/052609cummings_statement

The article is unclear which attorneys since both Haleigh's parents have an attorney or attorneys.  By "Cummings" do they indeed mean Ron's attorneys?  Foxorlando should have clarified this better & delved further.  If it is indeed KP she best be careful with her statements because word has it there is proof that she made a few phone calls & one has to wonder why she gave the money to post nay-nay & Amber's bonds...hinky meter way up.

Hi Cap!

Haleigh has only one parent with the last name of Cummings, that is her father Ron.
Haleigh's  mother's last name is Sheffield


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 26, 2009, 05:19:22 PM
Something I have been wondering about here.

The weekend prior to Haleigh's dissapearance it was said that Amber Brooks and Misty had nearly gone to blows over the message that Misty had put in Amber's comments section of her "My Space" page.
"i got ur man and i will have ur baby to"

Nay Nay said she had dropped Misty off at her Brother's house. (I'm assuming she meant Misty's Brother's house.)
Nay Nay then stated that at some point she allowed Amber Brooks to borrow her car and that Amber had gotten the car stuck in the mud and that there was a dent in the trunk.
There was more to that story but what I am wondering is what (if any) significance this would have on Haleigh's disappearance?
That is a lot of information and I am wondering exactly why Nay Nay would share all of that publicly if she thought it were significant to the case? Why not take that information straight to LE?
Also I have not seen anything where Amber is disputing anything that Nay Nay said.

We've heard from Nay Nay and WBG about that night but no so much from Amber Brooks...why?







There is also that questionable scratch in the van that belongs to either Misty, her cousin or? and the van being parked in a different spot ect...

This is just a thought (and possibly out in left field) but I wonder if Amber and Misty had ever attempted resolving there issues at a later time...possibly after Misty went back to Ron's trailer even?
Also wondering if Amber has a cell phone and if they checked the records of her cell phone to see if she had made a calls to Misty anywhere after the time that the two of them had nearly gone to blows?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 26, 2009, 05:20:44 PM

Bounty hunter from Haleigh case charged

Cummings attorney: We are not involved



Updated: Tuesday, 26 May 2009, 1:01 PM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 26 May 2009, 12:55 PM EDT

SATSUMA, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - On Tuesday, attorneys representing Haleigh Cumming's family said they are not involved in a civil case involving a bounty hunter who was was charged over the weekend with falsely imprisoning a man who was free on bail on a child-sex charge.

William Eugene Staubs, 51, who goes by the name “Cobra,” was arrested Friday after police said he handcuffed 55-year-old Daniel Everett Snodgrass March 20 and held him against his will for about an hour.

On Tuesday, the attorney’s representing the Cummings released a statement that said they were not involved in the civil case about Cobra’s false imprisonment. “Snodgrass was formerly, before being ruled out, a person of interest in Haleigh’s disappearance,” the statement read.

Cobra was allegedly taped by news reporter Art Harris during the imprisonment and interrogation of Snodgrass. “Cobra and Art Harris have shared information and collaborated in this case,” attorney's also wrote in the statement.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/052609cummings_statement

The article is unclear which attorneys since both Haleigh's parents have an attorney or attorneys.  By "Cummings" do they indeed mean Ron's attorneys?  Foxorlando should have clarified this better & delved further.  If it is indeed KP she best be careful with her statements because word has it there is proof that she made a few phone calls & one has to wonder why she gave the money to post nay-nay & Amber's bonds...hinky meter way up.

Hi Cap!

Haleigh has only one parent with the last name of Cummings, that is her father Ron.
Haleigh's  mother's last name is Sheffield
However they should/could have said Ron Cumming's attorneys, since as far as we know Ron  is the only one on his side of the family that has an attorney/s.  It is still up in the air whether Misty has hired an attorney or not.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 26, 2009, 05:20:46 PM
great pic Brandi.....you do great work....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 26, 2009, 05:23:34 PM
Something I have been wondering about here.

The weekend prior to Haleigh's dissapearance it was said that Amber Brooks and Misty had nearly gone to blows over the message that Misty had put in Amber's comments section of her "My Space" page.
"i got ur man and i will have ur baby to"

Nay Nay said she had dropped Misty off at her Brother's house. (I'm assuming she meant Misty's Brother's house.)
Nay Nay then stated that at some point she allowed Amber Brooks to borrow her car and that Amber had gotten the car stuck in the mud and that there was a dent in the trunk.
There was more to that story but what I am wondering is what (if any) significance this would have on Haleigh's disappearance?
That is a lot of information and I am wondering exactly why Nay Nay would share all of that publicly if she thought it were significant to the case? Why not take that information straight to LE?
Also I have not seen anything where Amber is disputing anything that Nay Nay said.

We've heard from Nay Nay and WBG about that night but no so much from Amber Brooks...why?







There is also that questionable scratch in the van that belongs to either Misty, her cousin or? and the van being parked in a different spot ect...

This is just a thought (and possibly out in left field) but I wonder if Amber and Misty had ever attempted resolving there issues at a later time...possibly after Misty went back to Ron's trailer even?
Also wondering if Amber has a cell phone and if they checked the records of her cell phone to see if she had made a calls to Misty anywhere after the time that the two of them had nearly gone to blows?

I would love to see those cell phone records.....I wonder if they had any phones that LE does not know about? like prepaid where you buy the card with the minutes and load it on to those little track phones.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 26, 2009, 05:39:34 PM
great pic Brandi.....you do great work....

Thank you. I found one of these pictures on some myspace page, I forget whose, and it was untitled, but I thought it sure looks like Haleigh. Then when HH posted the other image here I knew I had a match.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Cappuccino on May 26, 2009, 05:41:08 PM

Bounty hunter from Haleigh case charged

Cummings attorney: We are not involved



Updated: Tuesday, 26 May 2009, 1:01 PM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 26 May 2009, 12:55 PM EDT

SATSUMA, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - On Tuesday, attorneys representing Haleigh Cumming's family said they are not involved in a civil case involving a bounty hunter who was was charged over the weekend with falsely imprisoning a man who was free on bail on a child-sex charge.

William Eugene Staubs, 51, who goes by the name “Cobra,” was arrested Friday after police said he handcuffed 55-year-old Daniel Everett Snodgrass March 20 and held him against his will for about an hour.

On Tuesday, the attorney’s representing the Cummings released a statement that said they were not involved in the civil case about Cobra’s false imprisonment. “Snodgrass was formerly, before being ruled out, a person of interest in Haleigh’s disappearance,” the statement read.

Cobra was allegedly taped by news reporter Art Harris during the imprisonment and interrogation of Snodgrass. “Cobra and Art Harris have shared information and collaborated in this case,” attorney's also wrote in the statement.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/052609cummings_statement

The article is unclear which attorneys since both Haleigh's parents have an attorney or attorneys.  By "Cummings" do they indeed mean Ron's attorneys?  Foxorlando should have clarified this better & delved further.  If it is indeed KP she best be careful with her statements because word has it there is proof that she made a few phone calls & one has to wonder why she gave the money to post nay-nay & Amber's bonds...hinky meter way up.

Hi Cap!

Haleigh has only one parent with the last name of Cummings, that is her father Ron.
Haleigh's  mother's last name is Sheffield
However they should/could have said Ron Cumming's attorneys, since as far as we know Ron  is the only one on his side of the family that has an attorney/s.  It is still up in the air whether Misty has hired an attorney or not.


Hey ya Heart!

I know the last names but my point is the general public may be confused because the Sheffield's side has an attorney that is knee deep in this latest drama over Snodgrass & KP is denying same, whateva with her I have about much respect for her as I do a slug getting in my garden.   She is not doing Crystal any favors by representing her.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 26, 2009, 05:41:25 PM
Something I have been wondering about here.

The weekend prior to Haleigh's dissapearance it was said that Amber Brooks and Misty had nearly gone to blows over the message that Misty had put in Amber's comments section of her "My Space" page.
"i got ur man and i will have ur baby to"

Nay Nay said she had dropped Misty off at her Brother's house. (I'm assuming she meant Misty's Brother's house.)
Nay Nay then stated that at some point she allowed Amber Brooks to borrow her car and that Amber had gotten the car stuck in the mud and that there was a dent in the trunk.
There was more to that story but what I am wondering is what (if any) significance this would have on Haleigh's disappearance?
That is a lot of information and I am wondering exactly why Nay Nay would share all of that publicly if she thought it were significant to the case? Why not take that information straight to LE?
Also I have not seen anything where Amber is disputing anything that Nay Nay said.

We've heard from Nay Nay and WBG about that night but no so much from Amber Brooks...why?







There is also that questionable scratch in the van that belongs to either Misty, her cousin or? and the van being parked in a different spot ect...

This is just a thought (and possibly out in left field) but I wonder if Amber and Misty had ever attempted resolving there issues at a later time...possibly after Misty went back to Ron's trailer even?
Also wondering if Amber has a cell phone and if they checked the records of her cell phone to see if she had made a calls to Misty anywhere after the time that the two of them had nearly gone to blows?

My focus is still on Lisa Ann Brooks, Amber's mother which may or may not include Amber.  They both had axes to grind with Misty. 

It has been said that LE is looking at a family member or someone close to the family.

It has been rumored that Amber and Crystal are cousins, which would also make Lisa related to Crystal.

When was it that Amber got Nay, Nay's car stuck in the mud?

Whats up with the car keys that Cobra claims that he found?

Why is there a warrant out for Lisa Ann Brooks for robbery? 

Why did Lisa rob someone? 

Did she need the money to get out of town quick?

Why did she leave town all of a sudden, right after she told her mother Mary that she spotted Ron and Misty in the parking area of the apartments where Mary lives?

Who was the preacher or TJ's informant that said Ron Jr was sent by Ron to Mary's door that night?  And where is this informant now?

We have heard quite a bit from Nay Nay and hardly nothing from Amber.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 26, 2009, 05:41:48 PM
Okay monkeys , this is what I am thinking….at first I thought S/O then I thought  drug deal gone bad, or accident, intentional harm, etc. but with all of those theories there was always a piece of the puzzle that did not fit so I have come to this conclusion. I think that allof the crazy , illegal ,jaw dropping stuff surrounding RC and MC has been going on all along, it is just  an everyday way of life for them as well as a lot of other folks in Satsuma. Seems to be the norm there. I do think that RC and MC plus others are lying and staging certain things for various reasons.
I think that Ron did owe money to drug dealers and they were closing in on him to the point that he was desperate enough to rob some petty dealer hoping to get enough drugs or money to buy some time but it wasn’t enough. I think he was going around trying to borrow money etc from other drug dealers or whoever owed him for anything, filing on Crystal for child support, and beating people up . I think that he was checking the door everyday before he went to work and that is why all of them were sleeping in one room etc. I believe that he finally went to Gma Sykes and told her he was in trouble and that he needed x amount of dollars or they were threatening Haleigh. She told him she could  not help him or would see what she could do. But Gma Sykes seems to me like a very tough lady and I think that she  was not going to be threatened or her family and that it might not even end  if she paid the money. Therefore she  went over to Ron’s that evening took the clothes and slipped misty something …..afterall they were eating and drinking or she may have even given Misty something to make her feel better from her 3 day bender. ( remember in the Sandra Cantu cases they were talking about  that drug that  might have been used on Sandra ( said that it was used in outpatient proceedures and the patient was rendered immobile and remembered vitually nothing afterwards?)
I think that she went back later that night  after everyone was a sleep and took her key , opened the door, walked right in got the item that Haleigh needed, got her out of bed ,changed her clothes at the backdoor and left with her. I think that she is with a trustworthy relative /longtime friend of Sykes. It would have to be within reasonable distance or they met her halfway.
This would protect Haleigh , surround Ron with police and cameras so he would be fairly safe and the drug dealers would have to  back off. She knows this would cause massive searching and  the drug dealers would be busted and running scared all over the place and this did happen.  I think that if anyone in that town knew anything they would be singing like a bird to save their own butts from whatever they were charged with but they don’t know anything. For this to work Ron ,Misty , Teresa ,nobody could know because when the police come out , news reporters,etc. it would have to be true emotions. They would also have to take a polygraph  etc.  This would be tramatic for Ron and Misty but maybe it would teach them a lesson about doing /dealing drugs etc. maybe they would see that this really could happen and how aweful it would be.
Now not being in on the plan Ron and Misty would think that the drug dealers really took Haleigh but they can’t tell the police that now can they? So Ron is pissed that is why he was making threats on the 911 call knowing that it would be made public ( the thought that the call was being recorded was in his mind ….he even mentioned that) . I think Mistys story about getting up at 3 and blah blah blah is a crock. I think that she was  sedated (remember her saying that she saw Junior getup and go into the living room but she was so exhausted that she just passed out?) and Ron did get off early that night , was seen at the convience store getting smokes etc. and that he came home around 2:30 and  he found Haleigh gone and woke up Misty . They could not find Haleigh and staged the backdoor made up the story about her waking up at 3 etc . and told her that is all she has to say….that is all she knows. They wanted it to look like an abduction  but not implicate themselves in anyway. He probably thought that the cops would find her and bring her back home.

This would explain :
why Ron was making threats, aggravated with Misty (probably had told her to be extra watchful of the kids)not looking outside, positive that someone had taken her and hid her, the lapse of time getting story straight, had Misty call instead of himself.

And why Misty  has so many inconsistencies, didn’t want to talk to dispatcher on second  911 call, had to stay in the tent most of the next day because she felt like crap, does not want to do a walk through because there are just some things that she can not remember.

And why g gma was there so fast , she was expecting the call

And why Tim Miller left so quickly stating “this is not what it looks like”

 And why Le called off the ground search so early, still believes that  it is an inside job,keeping everything close to the vest

And why Cobra says he believes that she  is being passed through the family
 
LE probably believes that she is in a safe place ,they just don’t know where and so while they are looking they are taking this  opportunity to bust some of these drug dealers pimps etc , clean up the town some.
I think that after most of the questioning  and first few news interviews g gr Sykes told Ronald and Misty what she had done and why  and that Haleigh was okay. This would explain why Ron went from ranting and raving and crying on the ground to marriage ,carnivals and mudding,etc. Even though he was not happy about the marriage it was probably Mistys reward for keeping quiet or maybe she is pg.) This would also explain that little smirk on his face that we all see in the later interviews, his lack of blame to Misty, lack of staying in the media pleaing for his daughters return, and Misty does not need a lawyer, and has not been in the media for awhile now ( Lord knows she would let the cat out of the bag) Also why gr gma praises Misty so highly and offered up the family jewels and seen that Ron married her. ( kind of her reward for being drugged, taking the heat from everyone etc.) You notice gma Neves  has even chilled out , guess they finally let her in on it.
I do think that there was one glitch though…I don’t think that they planned on Crystal standing up for herself this time…. I think that they thought she would be passive and just let them walk all over her ,be really sad but go running back home with her tale tucked between her legs and wait for them to call and tell her Haleigh had reappeared. But they were wrong she is not a  13 year old girl anymore ,terrified of Ron, hooked on drugs to  the point she can’t function. She is older , wiser, is going to be married, has another child now and has been able to gain custody of Chads kids, and driving, not to mention the encouragement from her family, KimP., and Cobra. Having said all of that I think that  is why it is taking longer to have Haleigh reappear…..the last thing that gr g ma Sykes wants is for Haleigh to come home to a custody battle and Crystal win. It is all about Gr g ma Sykes and her family….I think  that she takes care of her own. Poor Crystal even though I’m sure she is not perfect is going through pure heck! Being she is not in on the plan.

Most of us would be  terrified to do something like this….some of us might do it for the love of the child….but I am thinking that she  reasoned this out by telling herself I am up in years all of my kids are grown, I will probably spend my later years in a nursing home in a small room starring at the ceiling alone eating crappy food anyway so not much difference in that and a jail cell at least Haleigh would be safe . And a jury would probably go light on me anyway.
Now think about it for a minute if you had not followed the case as close as us monkeys have and gr g ma Sykes was to get on the stand and cry big tears and tell you how afraid she was and how bad the drug dealers are and how  Ron just got in with the wrong crowd and  that he was a good boy who just needed  rehab etc. would you throw the book at her?
I like to think of Haleigh being with someone close to Sykes getting lots of hugs and kisses , watching cartoons in her pj’s,eating homemade brownies and in a peaceful invironment but the bottom line is she needs to be in school.able to go outside and play with other children her own age.and be able to go to the doctor if needed.  So they need to find her . I think we need to keep searching through g ma Sykes relatives and eliminate the deceased ones and get a pretty good idea of who she may have been placed with.
JMO….I am still open to  all areas of searching.

Any thoughts?…….. Any Nanners?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Cappuccino on May 26, 2009, 05:44:47 PM
The search for Haleigh continues

On Memorial Day Palatka's Blue Crab Festival is jam packed. And for folks searching for Haleigh it's the perfect opportunity to spread the word. Cobra, is a private investigator, and despite a recent arrest over accusations he handcuffed a man he was interviewing about Haleigh's disappearance, he has spent the holiday weekend manning a Haleigh Cummings tent.

"I've been here 3 days, collected $80. Put up with rainstorms. I did better going to business associates and asking them for help. That's been more successful, but this keeps the word out."

He's hoping someone here knows something that will help him bring Haleigh home.

"I tell them here's my card. Call me. I'm not tired of looking. I'll continue, that's what I do everyday."

And he believes that hard work will eventually lead to answers.

"There's going to be a conclusion. I just hope it's a positive one. Anything done in the darkness is always brought to the light. It always comes out."    
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mostpopular/story/The-search-for-Haleigh-continues/xSJ8-u1rW0CysJ2g29cRFw.cspx

Tell it bro, truer words have never been spoken...We all just wish it would have occurred long ago.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 26, 2009, 05:44:52 PM

Bounty hunter from Haleigh case charged

Cummings attorney: We are not involved



Updated: Tuesday, 26 May 2009, 1:01 PM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 26 May 2009, 12:55 PM EDT

SATSUMA, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - On Tuesday, attorneys representing Haleigh Cumming's family said they are not involved in a civil case involving a bounty hunter who was was charged over the weekend with falsely imprisoning a man who was free on bail on a child-sex charge.

William Eugene Staubs, 51, who goes by the name “Cobra,” was arrested Friday after police said he handcuffed 55-year-old Daniel Everett Snodgrass March 20 and held him against his will for about an hour.

On Tuesday, the attorney’s representing the Cummings released a statement that said they were not involved in the civil case about Cobra’s false imprisonment. “Snodgrass was formerly, before being ruled out, a person of interest in Haleigh’s disappearance,” the statement read.

Cobra was allegedly taped by news reporter Art Harris during the imprisonment and interrogation of Snodgrass. “Cobra and Art Harris have shared information and collaborated in this case,” attorney's also wrote in the statement.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/052609cummings_statement

The article is unclear which attorneys since both Haleigh's parents have an attorney or attorneys.  By "Cummings" do they indeed mean Ron's attorneys?  Foxorlando should have clarified this better & delved further.  If it is indeed KP she best be careful with her statements because word has it there is proof that she made a few phone calls & one has to wonder why she gave the money to post nay-nay & Amber's bonds...hinky meter way up.

Hi Cap!

Haleigh has only one parent with the last name of Cummings, that is her father Ron.
Haleigh's  mother's last name is Sheffield
However they should/could have said Ron Cumming's attorneys, since as far as we know Ron  is the only one on his side of the family that has an attorney/s.  It is still up in the air whether Misty has hired an attorney or not.


Hey ya Heart!

I know the last names but my point is the general public may be confused because the Sheffield's side has an attorney that is knee deep in this latest drama over Snodgrass & KP is denying same, whateva with her I have about much respect for her as I do a slug getting in my garden.   She is not doing Crystal any favors by representing her.

Which would mean that Nancy Grace would be right on the money regarding KP, lol.  Maybe one reason NG has backed off the case and is sitting back to see who will drown.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 26, 2009, 06:00:37 PM
HI 2cents,

I read part of your post, sounds pretty good. Curious, if she shipped her to Sykes sister, I wished we could get someone
with binoculars to spy if there is a child at her house.  Let's say about 3:30 pm they shipped Haleigh off to TX., how long would it take to travel by car? So they waited 12 hours, until, she arrived before phoning the missing child disappearance. My theory and opinion is the child is in better hands. I listened to GmaSykes, first telephone interview on NG and she didn't sound worried at the least, I saw Crystal Cummings first TV interview on NG not the least bit shook up. I go with your theory, but with TX?  I am still trying to confirm if that Sykes is the right person in Texas. I found family trees but not with Myles Sykes on them, still digging. If I knew she was there, I wouldn't tell anyone, the child is much better off with a grand-
aunt.

(The above is spectulation and my opinions.)

Seahorse


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 26, 2009, 06:11:03 PM
My2cents your theory is the one that I want to be true.
I sat here reading what your thoughts were and I had tears a rolling I tell ya!
I'll get back atcha if I can think of anything else to say...right now I am just going to pray that you are right.

~Where is little Haleigh~  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 26, 2009, 06:41:16 PM
HI 2cents,

I read part of your post, sounds pretty good. Curious, if she shipped her to Sykes sister, I wished we could get someone
with binoculars to spy if there is a child at her house.  Let's say about 3:30 pm they shipped Haleigh off to TX., how long would it take to travel by car? So they waited 12 hours, until, she arrived before phoning the missing child disappearance. My theory and opinion is the child is in better hands. I listened to GmaSykes, first telephone interview on NG and she didn't sound worried at the least, I saw Crystal Cummings first TV interview on NG not the least bit shook up. I go with your theory, but with TX?  I am still trying to confirm if that Sykes is the right person in Texas. I found family trees but not with Myles Sykes on them, still digging. If I knew she was there, I wouldn't tell anyone, the child is much better off with a grand-
aunt.

(The above is spectulation and my opinions.)

Seahorse

I think there is a Texas tie somewhere....I remember reading someone talking about RC made a trip to Texas a while back before all of this happened.....could be a Squires connection or Miller connection....if someone met Sykes in Satsuma and brought her to Texas they would have probably been in Texas before LE was through going through all of the mobile home park....but lets keep open minds to other possibilities too.. ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 26, 2009, 06:43:20 PM
Something I have been wondering about here.

The weekend prior to Haleigh's dissapearance it was said that Amber Brooks and Misty had nearly gone to blows over the message that Misty had put in Amber's comments section of her "My Space" page.
"i got ur man and i will have ur baby to"

Nay Nay said she had dropped Misty off at her Brother's house. (I'm assuming she meant Misty's Brother's house.)
Nay Nay then stated that at some point she allowed Amber Brooks to borrow her car and that Amber had gotten the car stuck in the mud and that there was a dent in the trunk.
There was more to that story but what I am wondering is what (if any) significance this would have on Haleigh's disappearance?
That is a lot of information and I am wondering exactly why Nay Nay would share all of that publicly if she thought it were significant to the case? Why not take that information straight to LE?
Also I have not seen anything where Amber is disputing anything that Nay Nay said.

We've heard from Nay Nay and WBG about that night but no so much from Amber Brooks...why?







The Fact of Amber and Crystal being related has never been confirmed or determined,  but, I would wonder, would it seem impossible to wonder if there is a communication link between Amber and Crystal, especially after Amber having a problem with Misty.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 26, 2009, 07:04:56 PM
Something I have been wondering about here.

The weekend prior to Haleigh's dissapearance it was said that Amber Brooks and Misty had nearly gone to blows over the message that Misty had put in Amber's comments section of her "My Space" page.
"i got ur man and i will have ur baby to"

Nay Nay said she had dropped Misty off at her Brother's house. (I'm assuming she meant Misty's Brother's house.)
Nay Nay then stated that at some point she allowed Amber Brooks to borrow her car and that Amber had gotten the car stuck in the mud and that there was a dent in the trunk.
There was more to that story but what I am wondering is what (if any) significance this would have on Haleigh's disappearance?
That is a lot of information and I am wondering exactly why Nay Nay would share all of that publicly if she thought it were significant to the case? Why not take that information straight to LE?
Also I have not seen anything where Amber is disputing anything that Nay Nay said.

We've heard from Nay Nay and WBG about that night but no so much from Amber Brooks...why?







The Fact of Amber and Crystal being related has never been confirmed or determined,  but, I would wonder, would it seem impossible to wonder if there is a communication link between Amber and Crystal, especially after Amber having a problem with Misty.

I've not seen anything to prove Amber and Crystal were related either.
If there were communications between Crystal and Amber you would think that phone records, computers ect... would have already been searched to verify the possibility. It's a maybe on that aspect though. I wouldn't rule anything out unless there were some solid proof that says otherwise.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 26, 2009, 07:22:53 PM
New article:

http://www.bloggernews.net/121019#comments


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 26, 2009, 07:47:10 PM
my2cents  that was a really good post. I certainly have my thoughts, and I'm in the minority, I personally don't feel Haleigh is no longer with us. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 26, 2009, 07:51:21 PM
my2cents  that was a really good post. I certainly have my thoughts, and I'm in the minority, I personally don't feel Haleigh is no longer with us. ::MonkeyNoNo::

That could very well be the case and if so I wish they would find her so she can have a proper burial but look how long it took them to find little Caylee and she was so close by....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 26, 2009, 07:51:26 PM
New article:

http://www.bloggernews.net/121019#comments
Interesting article and comments.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 26, 2009, 08:40:31 PM
my2cents  that was a really good post. I certainly have my thoughts, and I'm in the minority, I personally don't feel Haleigh is no longer with us. ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree too rose that Haleigh is no longer with us..  ::MonkeyTongue::

God Bless Haleigh..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 26, 2009, 08:50:52 PM
my2cents  that was a really good post. I certainly have my thoughts, and I'm in the minority, I personally don't feel Haleigh is no longer with us. ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree too rose that Haleigh is no longer with us..  ::MonkeyTongue::

God Bless Haleigh..

I may be wrong, but the way I read this, is the she said she does believe Haleigh is still with us.

I do. I have no proof or evidence at all that she is dead.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 26, 2009, 09:17:43 PM
my2cents  that was a really good post. I certainly have my thoughts, and I'm in the minority, I personally don't feel Haleigh is no longer with us. ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree too rose that Haleigh is no longer with us..  ::MonkeyTongue::

God Bless Haleigh..

I may be wrong, but the way I read this, is the she said she does believe Haleigh is still with us.

I do. I have no proof or evidence at all that she is dead.

i agree...until we have proof, to me she is still alive....respect to all who have a different feeling...

Capps...I agree with your analogy of KP....have always thought that she is/was just out to make a name for herself..who ever heard of her before all this happened? bad thing is though, she has made herself look so unprofessional, who would ever hire her? jmo of course...she and Geraldo started all the fighting with Ron and Crystal in my opinion....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: strayze on May 26, 2009, 10:20:02 PM
my2cents  that was a really good post. I certainly have my thoughts, and I'm in the minority, I personally don't feel Haleigh is no longer with us. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Do you mean that you believe Haleigh is dead, by the use of the double negative where the second negative cancels out the first?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: strayze on May 26, 2009, 10:25:39 PM
my2cents  that was a really good post. I certainly have my thoughts, and I'm in the minority, I personally don't feel Haleigh is no longer with us. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Do you mean that you believe Haleigh is not dead, i.e., alive, by the use of the double negative where the second negative cancels out the first?  I do hope that she is alive and was taken by one who knows the family, as suspected by some.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 26, 2009, 10:31:57 PM
my2cents  that was a really good post. I certainly have my thoughts, and I'm in the minority, I personally don't feel Haleigh is no longer with us. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Do you mean that you believe Haleigh is dead, by the use of the double negative where the second negative cancels out the first?

The quote stacks get confusing sometimes....mine was the forever long one....the rest were just replies to my big one....some of the replies think that she is no longer with us......I think that she is alive and has been put with someone by gr g ma Sykes but JMO....  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 26, 2009, 10:57:03 PM
Hello Monkeys, just home from work and caught up on reading, was hoping for some news on Haleigh!!!  God Bless Her


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mymonkey on May 26, 2009, 11:30:04 PM
my2cents  that was a really good post. I certainly have my thoughts, and I'm in the minority, I personally don't feel Haleigh is no longer with us. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Do you mean that you believe Haleigh is dead, by the use of the double negative where the second negative cancels out the first?

The quote stacks get confusing sometimes....mine was the forever long one....the rest were just replies to my big one....some of the replies think that she is no longer with us......I think that she is alive and has been put with someone by gr g ma Sykes but JMO....  ::MonkeyConfused::

I like your theory.....I have always said ggm Sykes was the grand master of the lies...jmo ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 27, 2009, 12:29:37 AM
Another beautiful picture of Haleigh........May God be with you!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 27, 2009, 01:20:21 AM
Wow my2cents.  Wow.  I hope you're right.  And if you are, she is in a better place with a grand aunt or whoever is taking care of her.

Personally, (no offense to anyone else) but I believe she's still alive.  Everyone in Satsuma keeps saying "they are waiting...", I do not see a murder investigation. There is no grieving.  Heartsick, yes.  Grieving, no.  I don't see it.  I'm not positive, but in the Caylee case LE knew it was a murder investigation a month into it...?  Last we heard from LE, they were still thinking it's a family abduction.  Cobra believes it's family.  Find it hard to think they were flat out lying about that. They didn't say they were looking for a body.  And the evidence has been collected (back door, paneling from water heater) if evidence had shown foul play, I think we'd know it.

Oh yeah.  I think Haleigh is still alive.  SO WHERE IS HALEIGH???

P.S.  I think it blew up wayyyy bigger than anyone could imagine, and they are not sure how to bring her home.  If they plan on bringing her home at all.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Blumonkey on May 27, 2009, 02:17:51 AM
I think the key to what happened to Haleigh lies with Misty and Ron. There are so many sordid personalities on the periphery that it is easy to lose focus on what is central. In my opinion the focus should be on Misty and her " inconsistent statements." I want to believe she is alive but my heart tells me otherwise. I pray there is a break in this case soon and this precious child is found.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: darla on May 27, 2009, 03:17:55 AM
I think the key to what happened to Haleigh lies with Misty and Ron. There are so many sordid personalities on the periphery that it is easy to lose focus on what is central. In my opinion the focus should be on Misty and her " inconsistent statements." I want to believe she is alive but my heart tells me otherwise. I pray there is a break in this case soon and this precious child is found.

Blumonkey ..I agree with you and No Rose. It has been to long. And no matter how many police reports are pulled on everyone in Putnam County, Tenn and Texas and Ga. It all leads right back to Ron and Misty. Do they honestly think they can bring Haleigh back one day and the cops will just say "OH Wow...She is home...Case closed? No further questions? It does not make any sense what so ever to me. If drug dealers were after Ron's Kids do you think they would give up if Haleigh was gone? What about Jr....doesn't he matter ?  No.... they would just do a drive-by on Ron and/or Misty and be done with it. JMOO ....I think LE and the Judge in that County need to be investigated. Something just "ain't" sitting right with me.
GOD BLESS HALEIGH AND HOLD HER CLOSE!


Forgot my manners, Good late evening/early morning Monkeys. I am finally caught up on 3 threads. Goodnight!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 27, 2009, 05:06:37 AM
It is my view that T.N. and D.A.S. may have had lot's of experience at ducking their children from the their fathers.

I will look for the audio telephone interview of T..N on the NG show, the very first brand spanking telephone interview where

I certainly couldn't tell she was missing anyone.  It may be awhile if I can locate that audio, I am determined to re-listen

to that tape, she was very disciplined with her answers, in my opinion.

Seahorse


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 27, 2009, 05:27:09 AM
HI 2cents,

I read part of your post, sounds pretty good. Curious, if she shipped her to Sykes sister, I wished we could get someone
with binoculars to spy if there is a child at her house.  Let's say about 3:30 pm they shipped Haleigh off to TX., how long would it take to travel by car? So they waited 12 hours, until, she arrived before phoning the missing child disappearance. My theory and opinion is the child is in better hands. I listened to GmaSykes, first telephone interview on NG and she didn't sound worried at the least, I saw Crystal Cummings first TV interview on NG not the least bit shook up. I go with your theory, but with TX?  I am still trying to confirm if that Sykes is the right person in Texas. I found family trees but not with Myles Sykes on them, still digging. If I knew she was there, I wouldn't tell anyone, the child is much better off with a grand-
aunt.

(The above is spectulation and my opinions.)

Seahorse

I think there is a Texas tie somewhere....I remember reading someone talking about RC made a trip to Texas a while back before all of this happened.....could be a Squires connection or Miller connection....if someone met Sykes in Satsuma and brought her to Texas they would have probably been in Texas before LE was through going through all of the mobile home park....but lets keep open minds to other possibilities too.. ::MonkeyRoll::

Goodmorning 2cents,

I agree with you to keep an open mind. 

They would need to wait 12 hours to ensure H.C. arrived because of Amber Alert for a missing child, so they wouldn't be stopped.
R.C's, momma and grannie, may have had plenty of experience at hiding their own children from their fathers, a theory of mine. This is "great step aunt" may also have experience in this family, at ducking the kids from the fathers. IMO

Seahorse


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 27, 2009, 06:41:55 AM
I still believe that she is alive.
We can't give up on her.  She could be out there waiting for someone to come and save her.  Put yourself in Haleighs shoes. 
It's been long enough, LE needs to put 2 and 2 together and bring her home.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: starcat29 on May 27, 2009, 06:49:28 AM
I still believe that she is alive.
We can't give up on her.  She could be out there waiting for someone to come and save her.  Put yourself in Haleighs shoes. 
It's been long enough, LE needs to put 2 and 2 together and bring her home.



I stand right with you JNGA i believe she is Alive to


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 07:28:08 AM
Good morning Monkeys and Guests!

Putnam hikes fuel tax


In other business, commissioners:
Approved the transfer of $164,729 to the sheriff's office budget from several grants, including $35,000 from the state to help defray costs associated with the search for Haleigh Cummings, a 5-year-old Satsuma girl who disappeared on Feb. 10.

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/05/27/news/news01.txt


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 08:06:48 AM
Investigators Still Trying to Identify Landfill Body    
Posted: 9:24 PM May 26, 2009
Last Updated: 9:24 PM May 26, 2009
Reporter: Vanessa Nguyen
Email Address: news@wctv.tv

Jackson County Sheriff's Investigators are still trying to identify a body found in a landfill yesterday, and they could use some help.

Workers at the Spring Hill landfill in Campbellton discovered the body around 1:00 Monday afternoon. Investigators believe the man died within the last 48 hours, but so far they don't know the cause of death.

They say it's a white man with reddish brown hair. It may take some time until they can make a positive identification.

"I think you have to understand, the condition of this body is going to impede our progress in this case, we're probably going to have to rely heavily on DNA for identification. I think it's gonna take some time. first of all, we've got to have someone to compare it to," says Lou Roberts, Jackson County Sheriff.

Authorities are using blood hounds to try and pick-up a scent leading from the landfill, which handles waste from several counties in Florida, Alabama and Georgia.

If you have any information about this case, please contact the Jackson County Sheriff's Office at 850-482-9624.

http://www.wctv.tv/home/headlines/46136392.html#


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 08:27:20 AM
I still believe that she is alive.
We can't give up on her.  She could be out there waiting for someone to come and save her.  Put yourself in Haleighs shoes. 
It's been long enough, LE needs to put 2 and 2 together and bring her home.



This is an idea, that has popped into my head.. I have run across several news articles, and the info on the who arrived at what time.  Look at a 7 hour time frame of travel.  Using a compass pinpoint Satsuma, and the areas on a 180 degree at that 7 hour travel locations, start pinpoint towns and cities.. And start looking for family members.   On one News report as a quote from LE on February 12, 2009. Le advised the reporter, that Crystal lived in Georgia and that she was at home at the time that Haleigh went missing.  Now, does that not cause a bit of brain confusion?  Where would the detective reporting this, come up with this info?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 27, 2009, 08:35:58 AM
I wonder why LE hasn't release the evidence that they have collected in the home.
They release the van . Do they have to arrest someone  or ones  before they release any findings that they have collected... So far no word on the door they took and the piece of wall or anything else... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 27, 2009, 08:38:56 AM
I wonder why LE hasn't release the evidence that they have collected in the home.
They release the van . Do they have to arrest someone  or ones  before they release any findings that they have collected... So far no word on the door they took and the piece of wall or anything else... ::MonkeyTongue::

Yeah, I am sure they have not released any findings on the evidence collected because they don't have to.

The rules of discovery do not apply here. Yet.

Good morning all.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 27, 2009, 08:40:52 AM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing63.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 08:42:51 AM
Good morning Brandi and all Monkeys...
no news on any missing kids today I see...sigh....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 08:43:39 AM
Cute picture Brandi...
Yes...let's keep hope alive for Haleigh .....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 27, 2009, 08:44:52 AM
Good Morning Monkey's.... ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue::

Beatiful picture of Haleigh.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 27, 2009, 08:47:08 AM
Another keepsake, Brandi.  How many does this latest make???  I just love the bassett hound, one of mine from years back.  I have recently seen photos of the puppy that was donated to the Sheffields for Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 08:53:00 AM
Here is your points of interest.. all 7 hour - driving hours.
Fayetteville NC
Charlotte, NC
Rockingham, NC
Laurenburg, NC
Spartenburg, sc
Atlanta, Ga
Athens, Ga
LaGrange, Ga
Montgomery, Ala
Mobile, Ala 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 27, 2009, 08:53:56 AM
Another keepsake, Brandi.  How many does this latest make???  I just love the bassett hound, one of mine from years back.  I have recently seen photos of the puppy that was donated to the Sheffields for Haleigh.

I've made 71 of them now, Grama.

I have not seen the puppy pictures.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 27, 2009, 08:56:08 AM
I wonder why LE hasn't release the evidence that they have collected in the home.
They release the van . Do they have to arrest someone  or ones  before they release any findings that they have collected... So far no word on the door they took and the piece of wall or anything else... ::MonkeyTongue::

They may have something of interest, but until they can piece this puzzle together and connect the dots with the evidence, if any was found, guess cannot tip off the abductor, if any.

If the theory of Gr Sykes turned out to be true, well they have Squires right close to them as that is where Jr. was going daily. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 27, 2009, 09:06:21 AM
I wonder why LE hasn't release the evidence that they have collected in the home.
They release the van . Do they have to arrest someone  or ones  before they release any findings that they have collected... So far no word on the door they took and the piece of wall or anything else... ::MonkeyTongue::

They may have something of interest, but until they can piece this puzzle together and connect the dots with the evidence, if any was found, guess cannot tip off the abductor, if any.

If the theory of Gr Sykes turned out to be true, well they have Squires right close to them as that is where Jr. was going daily. 

True.. Are their any Squires in Texas or Tennessee ? ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 27, 2009, 09:08:37 AM
I wonder why LE hasn't release the evidence that they have collected in the home.
They release the van . Do they have to arrest someone  or ones  before they release any findings that they have collected... So far no word on the door they took and the piece of wall or anything else... ::MonkeyTongue::

They may have something of interest, but until they can piece this puzzle together and connect the dots with the evidence, if any was found, guess cannot tip off the abductor, if any.

If the theory of Gr Sykes turned out to be true, well they have Squires right close to them as that is where Jr. was going daily. 

True.. Are their any Squires in Texas or Tennessee ? ::MonkeyTongue::

I might add that own and live on a farm... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 09:13:45 AM
William ‘COBRA’ Staubs announces intent to file BAR complaint against Florida Attorney Kim Picazio

http://writeintoaction.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 27, 2009, 09:19:48 AM
William ‘COBRA’ Staubs announces intent to file BAR complaint against Florida Attorney Kim Picazio

http://writeintoaction.com/

Thanks for this, Heart. I have never heard of this Timothy Charles Holmseth before last week. Apparently he is blogging this case? I don't see where a legitimate news source is paying for these articles from him.

Anyway, the merry-go-round continues, I see.

As Haleigh goes missing.

*sigh*


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 09:41:45 AM
William ‘COBRA’ Staubs announces intent to file BAR complaint against Florida Attorney Kim Picazio

http://writeintoaction.com/

Thanks for this, Heart. I have never heard of this Timothy Charles Holmseth before last week. Apparently he is blogging this case? I don't see where a legitimate news source is paying for these articles from him.

Anyway, the merry-go-round continues, I see.

As Haleigh goes missing.

*sigh*

OH MY GOD!! you can't make this crap up folks! what the hell???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 09:44:54 AM
William ‘COBRA’ Staubs announces intent to file BAR complaint against Florida Attorney Kim Picazio

http://writeintoaction.com/

Thanks for this, Heart. I have never heard of this Timothy Charles Holmseth before last week. Apparently he is blogging this case? I don't see where a legitimate news source is paying for these articles from him.

Anyway, the merry-go-round continues, I see.

As Haleigh goes missing.

*sigh*

Boy it is a bit much, isn't it!



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 27, 2009, 09:45:24 AM
William ‘COBRA’ Staubs announces intent to file BAR complaint against Florida Attorney Kim Picazio

http://writeintoaction.com/
   ::MonkeyEek::  Good Morning, beautiful pic Brandi. If Haleigh is with a family member, my problem with this would be medical care. Since Haleigh has Turner's syndrome, I'm sure she would have to go to the doctor, I just feel that someone would recognize her, or be suspicious, something.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: alagary on May 27, 2009, 09:48:21 AM
William ‘COBRA’ Staubs announces intent to file BAR complaint against Florida Attorney Kim Picazio

http://writeintoaction.com/
All that stuff towards the end of the article makes it sound like the Satsuma creepiness is contagious  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 09:50:05 AM
In other news:

Knife Found: Search for Nevaeh Buchanan

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/Search_Continues_for_Neviah_B


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 09:55:32 AM
William ‘COBRA’ Staubs announces intent to file BAR complaint against Florida Attorney Kim Picazio

http://writeintoaction.com/
All that stuff towards the end of the article makes it sound like the Satsuma creepiness is contagious  ::MonkeyEek::

no wonder KP showed up down there....she sounds like the rest of em...birds of a feather and all that ..
do you think that Crystal was having an affair with the 26 yr old guy? would explain why she was at the Haleigh bug place at 1:30 in the morning...with a "friend"....just sayin....my oh my..,how easily rumors and gossip can be started....think I just started one myself there....just provin a point....but it could be true.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: alagary on May 27, 2009, 10:06:53 AM
William ‘COBRA’ Staubs announces intent to file BAR complaint against Florida Attorney Kim Picazio

http://writeintoaction.com/
I just looked around on this guys site and putting this article in the thrash .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 27, 2009, 10:09:17 AM
GOOD GRIEF CHARLEY BROWN

Makes one wonder, if any of them are REMEMBERING HALEIGH

This pie has been cut toooooooo manyyyyyy times. 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 27, 2009, 10:18:26 AM
William ‘COBRA’ Staubs announces intent to file BAR complaint against Florida Attorney Kim Picazio

http://writeintoaction.com/
All that stuff towards the end of the article makes it sound like the Satsuma creepiness is contagious  ::MonkeyEek::

no wonder KP showed up down there....she sounds like the rest of em...birds of a feather and all that ..
do you think that Crystal was having an affair with the 26 yr old guy? would explain why she was at the Haleigh bug place at 1:30 in the morning...with a "friend"....just sayin....my oh my..,how easily rumors and gossip can be started....think I just started one myself there....just provin a point....but it could be true.....

GOONESS, anything is possible cookie.  However, a lot of posted info and news info can be taken and a lot of speculation.  Lord knows, what was or is going on.  Can those involved not set their minds to finding Haleigh???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 10:22:47 AM
William ‘COBRA’ Staubs announces intent to file BAR complaint against Florida Attorney Kim Picazio

http://writeintoaction.com/
All that stuff towards the end of the article makes it sound like the Satsuma creepiness is contagious  ::MonkeyEek::

no wonder KP showed up down there....she sounds like the rest of em...birds of a feather and all that ..
do you think that Crystal was having an affair with the 26 yr old guy? would explain why she was at the Haleigh bug place at 1:30 in the morning...with a "friend"....just sayin....my oh my..,how easily rumors and gossip can be started....think I just started one myself there....just provin a point....but it could be true.....

GOONESS, anything is possible cookie.  However, a lot of posted info and news info can be taken and a lot of speculation.  Lord knows, what was or is going on.  Can those involved not set their minds to finding Haleigh???

I know...right Gramma?  ::MonkeyConfused:: boggles the mind!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 10:34:28 AM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6kkH4xekiNo/ShK3pU8H1pI/AAAAAAAAGz0/DVjn4X9z2DA/s1600-h/bilde.jpg)



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 10:36:57 AM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6kkH4xekiNo/ShK3pU8H1pI/AAAAAAAAGz0/DVjn4X9z2DA/s1600-h/bilde.jpg)



errr,...Heart...did you have something to say?  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 27, 2009, 10:44:02 AM
 ::MonkeyConfused:: Morning all, I've been away so long and just prayed that when I got a chance to hop back on maybe we would have a new lead on Haleigh ::MonkeyNoNo:: , but sadly it is same sh!t different day.........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 10:44:40 AM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6kkH4xekiNo/ShK3pU8H1pI/AAAAAAAAGz0/DVjn4X9z2DA/s400/bilde.jpg)
Concerned volunteer Don Knop ties up a poster of missing child Haleigh Cummings on Wednesday outside the Haleigh Bug Center near Satsuma, a memorial center intended to keep the community aware of the missing 5-year-old.


Either Jeremiah Ragan's pic has been removed from Sarah Sheffield's myspace page or I cannot located at the present.  It/they were there on her page up until this morning.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 10:46:20 AM
thanks Heart...
the Haleighbug center looks abandoned...  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 10:46:46 AM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6kkH4xekiNo/ShK3pU8H1pI/AAAAAAAAGz0/DVjn4X9z2DA/s1600-h/bilde.jpg)



errr,...Heart...did you have something to say?  ::MonkeyDance::

errr yes cookie, however I made a monkey bo bo instead  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 10:48:19 AM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6kkH4xekiNo/ShK3pU8H1pI/AAAAAAAAGz0/DVjn4X9z2DA/s1600-h/bilde.jpg)



errr,...Heart...did you have something to say?  ::MonkeyDance::

errr yes cookie, however I made a monkey bo bo instead  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyHaHa::  couldn't resist that one!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 27, 2009, 10:54:08 AM
GOOD GRIEF CHARLEY BROWN

Makes one wonder, if any of them are REMEMBERING HALEIGH

This pie has been cut toooooooo manyyyyyy times. 


All I can say to all of this is WTF  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 27, 2009, 11:11:58 AM
Here are the puppy pics Brandi~~~

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/s_9d2ba0de972041ae96d95d894c224dbe.jpg)         (http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/s_88836a8e7d0a412599a70c80fe2bd58d.jpg)       (http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/s_9cd2b3ad9568490c91281028c0773fb7.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 11:13:08 AM
Here are the puppy pics Brandi~~~

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/s_9d2ba0de972041ae96d95d894c224dbe.jpg)         (http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/s_88836a8e7d0a412599a70c80fe2bd58d.jpg)       (http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/s_9cd2b3ad9568490c91281028c0773fb7.jpg)

how cute!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Northern Rose on May 27, 2009, 11:22:27 AM
O/T

If you have not done so please sign the petition - Tori's law, to have the Amber Alert system changed.  If we can get things changed in Canada then the US will likely also review their Alert system.  There are currently 31, 799 signatures.  It is being taken to Parliament this afternoon.  Please take the time to sign. it.http://www.petitiononline.com/vict888/petition.html

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Warning system 'fatally flawed,' creator says
CHILD SAFETY: Red tape has rendered Amber Alert 'ineffective,' advocate says
Posted By PATRICK MALONEY, SUN MEDIA
Posted 2 hours ago
 

The Amber Alert system is "fatally flawed" and in dire need of changes, warns the American child-safety advocate who helped create the original program.

Marc Klaas is particularly critical of the rule that apparently stopped Woodstock police from invoking an Amber Alert after Victoria "Tori" Stafford's April 8 disappearance -- the need for a description of a suspect vehicle.

"In a stranger (kidnapping) or an overtly predatory scenario, the perpetrator is going to take steps to cover his tracks," Klaas said from California.

"Therefore, it's incredibly unlikely you'll be able to get that information.

"It excludes the vast majority of children who need the Amber Alert the most."

Klaas, whose daughter Polly was kidnapped from a 1993 slumber party and killed, was a renowned child-safety advocate by the time nine-year-old Amber Hagerman was abducted from an Arlington, Texas, parking lot in 1996. He later helped her family develop the first Amber Alert program, which has spread across the U. S. and Canada.

But the "red tape" created since has rendered it ineffective, Klaas said, noting many of the high-profile child abductions -- Elizabeth Smart and Adam Walsh, for examples -- wouldn't have qualified for an Amber Alert.

Klaas has become increasingly critical in recent months, largely because of the kidnapping of a California child: Two men tied up a family, ransacked their home and took a young child -- but an Amber Alert wasn't issued immediately because no one could describe the abductors' vehicle, he said.

"It's astonishing."

Vehicle descriptions are most likely in cases of family abductions, which are generally the least dangerous, Klaas said.

"It's a fatal flaw. I'm really concerned that the children that need this kind of response the most are the children least served by it."


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 11:46:35 AM
thanks NR....I signed the petition in Tori's thread....good to get the word out on this!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Cappuccino on May 27, 2009, 12:22:50 PM
William ‘COBRA’ Staubs announces intent to file BAR complaint against Florida Attorney Kim Picazio

http://writeintoaction.com/
All that stuff towards the end of the article makes it sound like the Satsuma creepiness is contagious  ::MonkeyEek::

no wonder KP showed up down there....she sounds like the rest of em...birds of a feather and all that ..
do you think that Crystal was having an affair with the 26 yr old guy? would explain why she was at the Haleigh bug place at 1:30 in the morning...with a "friend"....just sayin....my oh my..,how easily rumors and gossip can be started....think I just started one myself there....just provin a point....but it could be true.....

I called that....can't say what is fact or fiction out of that saga article but even if a portion of it is true Im not shocked.   Kim's involvement in making calls regarding HER giving money to someone to bail out Nay-nay & Amber inandofitself is very questionable conduct for an attorney representing someone else connected to these individuals, come on folks we know why she did & it does not help Crystal to have druggies speaking on her behalf in any capacity.  KP has presented herself & represented her client very unprofessionally & certainly unwisely just by her national TV appearances alone.   She has literally handed Ron Cummings an opportunity to file a civil lawsuit against her for slandering him with abuse allegations that she may never be able to prove but disseminated nationwide publicly maliciously.   With all the blatant allegations she has made with no hesitation, one has to wonder why she did not file for an emergency hearing for custody of Ron, Jr on behalf of her client, she is snowing the public.   She has to know that the general public would question why if her allegations are true & Crystal was perfectly suited to be rewarded parental custody of Ron Jr why she did not seek this hearing yet or why DFS has not removed Ron Jr from his present custodial residence to Crystal or foster care for further determination with cause.  Her over zealous actions toward greed in seeking fame & fortune thru legal counsel is more than obvious & with no surprise is going to jam her up.  All I do know is that it is rather odd that an attorney in good standing & representing a client should have reason to have to have an attorney...hmmm well there is one other snake in the grass that had to do so also - Jose Baez who has 3 bar complaints against him that have recently moved from review to the grievance arbitration level.     Crystal would be wise to fire KP & break all ties while obtaining proper legal counsel from an attorney that can provide proper advise & more realistic representation.  If Crystal hopes to gain custody she really needs to focus on getting healthy, providing a safe permanent home, prove financial stability & making sure she can be proven to take proper care of children full time while associating with people not caught up in drug abuse & criminal conduct.     KP is the perfect example that sometimes "class" is not determined by whether someone wears a suit or a pair of jeans, shame on her.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 27, 2009, 12:28:38 PM
I wonder why LE hasn't release the evidence that they have collected in the home.
They release the van . Do they have to arrest someone  or ones  before they release any findings that they have collected... So far no word on the door they took and the piece of wall or anything else... ::MonkeyTongue::

They may have something of interest, but until they can piece this puzzle together and connect the dots with the evidence, if any was found, guess cannot tip off the abductor, if any.

If the theory of Gr Sykes turned out to be true, well they have Squires right close to them as that is where Jr. was going daily. 

True.. Are their any Squires in Texas or Tennessee ? ::MonkeyTongue::

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Glenda Sykes Miller, age 70, Texas. peoplefinders.com line 27, look up under Glenda Miller, line 27

Myles Sykes obit has listed a SISTER listed as Glenda Miller, that is what I found on line 27, a Glenda "Sykes' Miller.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 27, 2009, 12:30:40 PM
thanks Heart...
the Haleighbug center looks abandoned...  ::MonkeyShocked::
This picture is a old picture back when they were first starting the center....its not recent!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 12:36:43 PM
William ‘COBRA’ Staubs announces intent to file BAR complaint against Florida Attorney Kim Picazio

http://writeintoaction.com/
All that stuff towards the end of the article makes it sound like the Satsuma creepiness is contagious  ::MonkeyEek::

no wonder KP showed up down there....she sounds like the rest of em...birds of a feather and all that ..
do you think that Crystal was having an affair with the 26 yr old guy? would explain why she was at the Haleigh bug place at 1:30 in the morning...with a "friend"....just sayin....my oh my..,how easily rumors and gossip can be started....think I just started one myself there....just provin a point....but it could be true.....

I called that....can't say what is fact or fiction out of that saga article but even if a portion of it is true Im not shocked.   Kim's involvement in making calls regarding HER giving money to someone to bail out Nay-nay & Amber inandofitself is very questionable conduct for an attorney representing someone else connected to these individuals, come on folks we know why she did & it does not help Crystal to have druggies speaking on her behalf in any capacity.  KP has presented herself & represented her client very unprofessionally & certainly unwisely just by her national TV appearances alone.   She has literally handed Ron Cummings an opportunity to file a civil lawsuit against her for slandering him with abuse allegations that she may never be able to prove but disseminated nationwide publicly maliciously.   With all the blatant allegations she has made with no hesitation, one has to wonder why she did not file for an emergency hearing for custody of Ron, Jr on behalf of her client, she is snowing the public.   She has to know that the general public would question why if her allegations are true & Crystal was perfectly suited to be rewarded parental custody of Ron Jr why she did not seek this hearing yet or why DFS has not removed Ron Jr from his present custodial residence to Crystal or foster care for further determination with cause.  Her over zealous actions toward greed in seeking fame & fortune thru legal counsel is more than obvious & with no surprise is going to jam her up.  All I do know is that it is rather odd that an attorney in good standing & representing a client should have reason to have to have an attorney...hmmm well there is one other snake in the grass that had to do so also - Jose Baez who has 3 bar complaints against him that have recently moved from review to the grievance arbitration level.     Crystal would be wise to fire KP & break all ties while obtaining proper legal counsel from an attorney that can provide proper advise & more realistic representation.  If Crystal hopes to gain custody she really needs to focus on getting healthy, providing a safe permanent home, prove financial stability & making sure she can be proven to take proper care of children full time while associating with people not caught up in drug abuse & criminal conduct.     KP is the perfect example that sometimes "class" is not determined by whether someone wears a suit or a pair of jeans, shame on her.

bravo Capps...a few of us have been yammering on this since the whole sad saga began!
Kim is out for Kim and to get her mug on tv...I have said before, if she really had anything on Ron causing abuse to those kids, then she should have filed some sort of emergency through DCFS..and as we see, Crystal still does not have the kids, they have not been taken away from Ron ....speaks volumes to me...what exactly has Kim accomplished while being down there? besides chaos and fighting between the parents of a missing child? time for KP to get the heck outta dodge...jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 27, 2009, 12:48:07 PM
<snipped>bravo Capps...a few of us have been yammering on this since the whole sad saga began!
Kim is out for Kim and to get her mug on tv...I have said before, if she really had anything on Ron causing abuse to those kids, then she should have filed some sort of emergency through DCFS..and as we see, Crystal still does not have the kids, they have not been taken away from Ron ....speaks volumes to me...what exactly has Kim accomplished while being down there? besides chaos and fighting between the parents of a missing child? time for KP to get the heck outta dodge...jmo

Not being smart or anything but,  there are no KIDS.. now there is only a child, the other one came up missing from Ronalds home in the middle of the night while the adult that was suppose to watching them was Lord only knows where....Also, right now the child that is left is in the Great Grandmothers home, not alone with Ronald and is the main reason nothing has been done right now,,,,,,How do any of us know what Kim is doing, just because Cobra said it does not make it so.........if Cobra speaks the gospel  truth and we are gonna take his word as truth, then where is Haleigh, he said he would find her within the week, that was months ago, he also said NayNay and all the drug dealers he was hunting up, right there under his nose in Satsuma and Palatka, would break this case, well uhhh     NO it didnt happen,   nothing has Haqppened since Cobra jumped on this case but more stories and drama...........



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mymonkey on May 27, 2009, 01:02:29 PM
JMO They all need to pack up their crap and I mean that in more ways than one and get out of town and let LE do their job....LE can read SM  ::MonkeyDance::and get more information than they can from any of these folks that are in Satsuma trying to help. ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 01:03:41 PM
<snipped>bravo Capps...a few of us have been yammering on this since the whole sad saga began!
Kim is out for Kim and to get her mug on tv...I have said before, if she really had anything on Ron causing abuse to those kids, then she should have filed some sort of emergency through DCFS..and as we see, Crystal still does not have the kids, they have not been taken away from Ron ....speaks volumes to me...what exactly has Kim accomplished while being down there? besides chaos and fighting between the parents of a missing child? time for KP to get the heck outta dodge...jmo

Not being smart or anything but,  there are no KIDS.. now there is only a child, the other one came up missing from Ronalds home in the middle of the night while the adult that was suppose to watching them was Lord only knows where....Also, right now the child that is left is in the Great Grandmothers home, not alone with Ronald and is the main reason nothing has been done right now,,,,,,How do any of us know what Kim is doing, just because Cobra said it does not make it so.........if Cobra speaks the gospel  truth and we are gonna take his word as truth, then where is Haleigh, he said he would find her within the week, that was months ago, he also said NayNay and all the drug dealers he was hunting up, right there under his nose in Satsuma and Palatka, would break this case, well uhhh     NO it didnt happen,   nothing has Haqppened since Cobra jumped on this case but more stories and drama...........



HH.. I am just a tad confused here.  I was under the impression, that Cobra was the one who brought Kim in,  And Cobra was brought in by the Minister..  But, what I don't know, is Who brought Jeremiah Regan in?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 01:08:59 PM
<snipped>bravo Capps...a few of us have been yammering on this since the whole sad saga began!
Kim is out for Kim and to get her mug on tv...I have said before, if she really had anything on Ron causing abuse to those kids, then she should have filed some sort of emergency through DCFS..and as we see, Crystal still does not have the kids, they have not been taken away from Ron ....speaks volumes to me...what exactly has Kim accomplished while being down there? besides chaos and fighting between the parents of a missing child? time for KP to get the heck outta dodge...jmo

Not being smart or anything but,  there are no KIDS.. now there is only a child, the other one came up missing from Ronalds home in the middle of the night while the adult that was suppose to watching them was Lord only knows where....Also, right now the child that is left is in the Great Grandmothers home, not alone with Ronald and is the main reason nothing has been done right now,,,,,,How do any of us know what Kim is doing, just because Cobra said it does not make it so.........if Cobra speaks the gospel  truth and we are gonna take his word as truth, then where is Haleigh, he said he would find her within the week, that was months ago, he also said NayNay and all the drug dealers he was hunting up, right there under his nose in Satsuma and Palatka, would break this case, well uhhh     NO it didnt happen,   nothing has Haqppened since Cobra jumped on this case but more stories and drama...........



Not being smart or anything but, higherhopes, how long have you been knowing or acquainted with Crystal and Kim?  How often do you communicate with them?  How many times have you been in their presence?

I'm asking because I've wonder for some time just how well do you know all and/or some of the players in this case.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 01:09:25 PM
<snipped>bravo Capps...a few of us have been yammering on this since the whole sad saga began!
Kim is out for Kim and to get her mug on tv...I have said before, if she really had anything on Ron causing abuse to those kids, then she should have filed some sort of emergency through DCFS..and as we see, Crystal still does not have the kids, they have not been taken away from Ron ....speaks volumes to me...what exactly has Kim accomplished while being down there? besides chaos and fighting between the parents of a missing child? time for KP to get the heck outta dodge...jmo

Not being smart or anything but,  there are no KIDS.. now there is only a child, the other one came up missing from Ronalds home in the middle of the night while the adult that was suppose to watching them was Lord only knows where....Also, right now the child that is left is in the Great Grandmothers home, not alone with Ronald and is the main reason nothing has been done right now,,,,,,How do any of us know what Kim is doing, just because Cobra said it does not make it so.........if Cobra speaks the gospel  truth and we are gonna take his word as truth, then where is Haleigh, he said he would find her within the week, that was months ago, he also said NayNay and all the drug dealers he was hunting up, right there under his nose in Satsuma and Palatka, would break this case, well uhhh     NO it didnt happen,   nothing has Haqppened since Cobra jumped on this case but more stories and drama...........


I said kids cause of the alleged abuse to both kids...that has been accused...and that with the return of Haleigh, then it would be kids as well...right? and as ornery and mean as some have said on here that Ron is, doubt that granny could really stop him if he wanted to abuse jr...What has Kim done for Crystal and in the hunt for Haleigh? seems that Cobra is the one out looking for Haleigh...none of her family members seem to be looking for her...jmo...of couse...
some  on here have believed what Cobra has said all along, and now that it doesn't bode well for Crystal and her attorney, he is not to be believed? can't have it both ways...either he is credible or he is not....I am not saying that he is or is not...I have said all along though that I think that Kim was down there for her own purposes and not for Crystal and Haleigh and I stand by that...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 27, 2009, 01:10:23 PM
<snipped>bravo Capps...a few of us have been yammering on this since the whole sad saga began!
Kim is out for Kim and to get her mug on tv...I have said before, if she really had anything on Ron causing abuse to those kids, then she should have filed some sort of emergency through DCFS..and as we see, Crystal still does not have the kids, they have not been taken away from Ron ....speaks volumes to me...what exactly has Kim accomplished while being down there? besides chaos and fighting between the parents of a missing child? time for KP to get the heck outta dodge...jmo

Not being smart or anything but,  there are no KIDS.. now there is only a child, the other one came up missing from Ronalds home in the middle of the night while the adult that was suppose to watching them was Lord only knows where....Also, right now the child that is left is in the Great Grandmothers home, not alone with Ronald and is the main reason nothing has been done right now,,,,,,How do any of us know what Kim is doing, just because Cobra said it does not make it so.........if Cobra speaks the gospel  truth and we are gonna take his word as truth, then where is Haleigh, he said he would find her within the week, that was months ago, he also said NayNay and all the drug dealers he was hunting up, right there under his nose in Satsuma and Palatka, would break this case, well uhhh     NO it didnt happen,   nothing has Haqppened since Cobra jumped on this case but more stories and drama...........



HH.. I am just a tad confused here.  I was under the impression, that Cobra was the one who brought Kim in,  And Cobra was brought in by the Minister..  But, what I don't know, is Who brought Jeremiah Regan in?
Cobra didnt bring Kim in, Kim brought Kim in by wanting to help Crystal......I have no idea about Jeremiah, I was under the impression that he was contacted by someone local,   dont really know.........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 01:11:15 PM
<snipped>bravo Capps...a few of us have been yammering on this since the whole sad saga began!
Kim is out for Kim and to get her mug on tv...I have said before, if she really had anything on Ron causing abuse to those kids, then she should have filed some sort of emergency through DCFS..and as we see, Crystal still does not have the kids, they have not been taken away from Ron ....speaks volumes to me...what exactly has Kim accomplished while being down there? besides chaos and fighting between the parents of a missing child? time for KP to get the heck outta dodge...jmo

Not being smart or anything but,  there are no KIDS.. now there is only a child, the other one came up missing from Ronalds home in the middle of the night while the adult that was suppose to watching them was Lord only knows where....Also, right now the child that is left is in the Great Grandmothers home, not alone with Ronald and is the main reason nothing has been done right now,,,,,,How do any of us know what Kim is doing, just because Cobra said it does not make it so.........if Cobra speaks the gospel  truth and we are gonna take his word as truth, then where is Haleigh, he said he would find her within the week, that was months ago, he also said NayNay and all the drug dealers he was hunting up, right there under his nose in Satsuma and Palatka, would break this case, well uhhh     NO it didnt happen,   nothing has Haqppened since Cobra jumped on this case but more stories and drama...........



HH.. I am just a tad confused here.  I was under the impression, that Cobra was the one who brought Kim in,  And Cobra was brought in by the Minister..  But, what I don't know, is Who brought Jeremiah Regan in?

from what I heard, Kim brought Regan in...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 01:12:54 PM
<snipped>bravo Capps...a few of us have been yammering on this since the whole sad saga began!
Kim is out for Kim and to get her mug on tv...I have said before, if she really had anything on Ron causing abuse to those kids, then she should have filed some sort of emergency through DCFS..and as we see, Crystal still does not have the kids, they have not been taken away from Ron ....speaks volumes to me...what exactly has Kim accomplished while being down there? besides chaos and fighting between the parents of a missing child? time for KP to get the heck outta dodge...jmo

Not being smart or anything but,  there are no KIDS.. now there is only a child, the other one came up missing from Ronalds home in the middle of the night while the adult that was suppose to watching them was Lord only knows where....Also, right now the child that is left is in the Great Grandmothers home, not alone with Ronald and is the main reason nothing has been done right now,,,,,,How do any of us know what Kim is doing, just because Cobra said it does not make it so.........if Cobra speaks the gospel  truth and we are gonna take his word as truth, then where is Haleigh, he said he would find her within the week, that was months ago, he also said NayNay and all the drug dealers he was hunting up, right there under his nose in Satsuma and Palatka, would break this case, well uhhh     NO it didnt happen,   nothing has Haqppened since Cobra jumped on this case but more stories and drama...........



HH.. I am just a tad confused here.  I was under the impression, that Cobra was the one who brought Kim in,  And Cobra was brought in by the Minister..  But, what I don't know, is Who brought Jeremiah Regan in?
Cobra didnt bring Kim in, Kim brought Kim in by wanting to help Crystal......I have no idea about Jeremiah, I was under the impression that he was contacted by someone local,   dont really know.........

how coincidental then is it that Cobra and Kim knew each other before and they both just showed up to help find this missing child out of all the missing kids?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 01:13:49 PM
JMO They all need to pack up their crap and I mean that in more ways than one and get out of town and let LE do their job....LE can read SM  ::MonkeyDance::and get more information than they can from any of these folks that are in Satsuma trying to help. ::MonkeyWaa::

mymonkey, that was and has been my thought for some time now.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 27, 2009, 01:14:13 PM
<snipped>bravo Capps...a few of us have been yammering on this since the whole sad saga began!
Kim is out for Kim and to get her mug on tv...I have said before, if she really had anything on Ron causing abuse to those kids, then she should have filed some sort of emergency through DCFS..and as we see, Crystal still does not have the kids, they have not been taken away from Ron ....speaks volumes to me...what exactly has Kim accomplished while being down there? besides chaos and fighting between the parents of a missing child? time for KP to get the heck outta dodge...jmo

Not being smart or anything but,  there are no KIDS.. now there is only a child, the other one came up missing from Ronalds home in the middle of the night while the adult that was suppose to watching them was Lord only knows where....Also, right now the child that is left is in the Great Grandmothers home, not alone with Ronald and is the main reason nothing has been done right now,,,,,,How do any of us know what Kim is doing, just because Cobra said it does not make it so.........if Cobra speaks the gospel  truth and we are gonna take his word as truth, then where is Haleigh, he said he would find her within the week, that was months ago, he also said NayNay and all the drug dealers he was hunting up, right there under his nose in Satsuma and Palatka, would break this case, well uhhh     NO it didnt happen,   nothing has Haqppened since Cobra jumped on this case but more stories and drama...........


I said kids cause of the alleged abuse to both kids...that has been accused...and that with the return of Haleigh, then it would be kids as well...right? and as ornery and mean as some have said on here that Ron is, doubt that granny could really stop him if he wanted to abuse jr...What has Kim done for Crystal and in the hunt for Haleigh? seems that Cobra is the one out looking for Haleigh...none of her family members seem to be looking for her...jmo...of couse...
some  on here have believed what Cobra has said all along, and now that it doesn't bode well for Crystal and her attorney, he is not to be believed? can't have it both ways...either he is credible or he is not....I am not saying that he is or is not...I have said all along though that I think that Kim was down there for her own purposes and not for Crystal and Haleigh and I stand by that...
Well if Cobra is out hunting for Haleigh,      where is he hunting,    she is not  in Satsuma or Palatka or at the Blue crab festival or at MEMa's, or at the Motels or at the jail or anywhere he has been......No he is not hunting for Haleigh, he is hunting for Notoriety, he is no better then anyone else,    showboating is what this case has turned into, heck at this point I wouldnt be surprise if someone didnt watch the saga of the Anthony's and decided to follow suit and get in on the same thing.......makes me sick!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 01:15:27 PM
JMO They all need to pack up their crap and I mean that in more ways than one and get out of town and let LE do their job....LE can read SM  ::MonkeyDance::and get more information than they can from any of these folks that are in Satsuma trying to help. ::MonkeyWaa::

mymonkey, that was and has been my thought for some time now.

I agree as well...these clowns have done nothing but muck the waters for LE...imo....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 27, 2009, 01:16:45 PM
<snipped>bravo Capps...a few of us have been yammering on this since the whole sad saga began!
Kim is out for Kim and to get her mug on tv...I have said before, if she really had anything on Ron causing abuse to those kids, then she should have filed some sort of emergency through DCFS..and as we see, Crystal still does not have the kids, they have not been taken away from Ron ....speaks volumes to me...what exactly has Kim accomplished while being down there? besides chaos and fighting between the parents of a missing child? time for KP to get the heck outta dodge...jmo

Not being smart or anything but,  there are no KIDS.. now there is only a child, the other one came up missing from Ronalds home in the middle of the night while the adult that was suppose to watching them was Lord only knows where....Also, right now the child that is left is in the Great Grandmothers home, not alone with Ronald and is the main reason nothing has been done right now,,,,,,How do any of us know what Kim is doing, just because Cobra said it does not make it so.........if Cobra speaks the gospel  truth and we are gonna take his word as truth, then where is Haleigh, he said he would find her within the week, that was months ago, he also said NayNay and all the drug dealers he was hunting up, right there under his nose in Satsuma and Palatka, would break this case, well uhhh     NO it didnt happen,   nothing has Haqppened since Cobra jumped on this case but more stories and drama...........



HH.. I am just a tad confused here.  I was under the impression, that Cobra was the one who brought Kim in,  And Cobra was brought in by the Minister..  But, what I don't know, is Who brought Jeremiah Regan in?
Cobra didnt bring Kim in, Kim brought Kim in by wanting to help Crystal......I have no idea about Jeremiah, I was under the impression that he was contacted by someone local,   dont really know.........

how coincidental then is it that Cobra and Kim knew each other before and they both just showed up to help find this missing child out of all the missing kids?
Not coincidental...................Rev Grund knows Cobra and he knows Leonard Padia ans he contacted Cobra and Cobra was seen asking L.Padia how he could get involved in a missing childs case and undoubtly he told him, and here he is!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 01:17:40 PM
<snipped>bravo Capps...a few of us have been yammering on this since the whole sad saga began!
Kim is out for Kim and to get her mug on tv...I have said before, if she really had anything on Ron causing abuse to those kids, then she should have filed some sort of emergency through DCFS..and as we see, Crystal still does not have the kids, they have not been taken away from Ron ....speaks volumes to me...what exactly has Kim accomplished while being down there? besides chaos and fighting between the parents of a missing child? time for KP to get the heck outta dodge...jmo

Not being smart or anything but,  there are no KIDS.. now there is only a child, the other one came up missing from Ronalds home in the middle of the night while the adult that was suppose to watching them was Lord only knows where....Also, right now the child that is left is in the Great Grandmothers home, not alone with Ronald and is the main reason nothing has been done right now,,,,,,How do any of us know what Kim is doing, just because Cobra said it does not make it so.........if Cobra speaks the gospel  truth and we are gonna take his word as truth, then where is Haleigh, he said he would find her within the week, that was months ago, he also said NayNay and all the drug dealers he was hunting up, right there under his nose in Satsuma and Palatka, would break this case, well uhhh     NO it didnt happen,   nothing has Haqppened since Cobra jumped on this case but more stories and drama...........


I said kids cause of the alleged abuse to both kids...that has been accused...and that with the return of Haleigh, then it would be kids as well...right? and as ornery and mean as some have said on here that Ron is, doubt that granny could really stop him if he wanted to abuse jr...What has Kim done for Crystal and in the hunt for Haleigh? seems that Cobra is the one out looking for Haleigh...none of her family members seem to be looking for her...jmo...of couse...
some  on here have believed what Cobra has said all along, and now that it doesn't bode well for Crystal and her attorney, he is not to be believed? can't have it both ways...either he is credible or he is not....I am not saying that he is or is not...I have said all along though that I think that Kim was down there for her own purposes and not for Crystal and Haleigh and I stand by that...
Well if Cobra is out hunting for Haleigh,      where is he hunting,    she is not  in Satsuma or Palatka or at the Blue crab festival or at MEMa's, or at the Motels or at the jail or anywhere he has been......No he is not hunting for Haleigh, he is hunting for Notoriety, he is no better then anyone else,    showboating is what this case has turned into, heck at this point I wouldnt be surprise if someone didnt watch the saga of the Anthony's and decided to follow suit and get in on the same thing.......makes me sick!

and where is Kim and her bunch looking for Haleigh at?
I think that there has been a lot of showboating in this case....most of it started with Geraldo showing up and who brought him to town?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Dolce on May 27, 2009, 01:27:17 PM
So sorry to break in to your conversation over here... I have posted over in the Adji thread that his memorial is no longer where it once was in front of his neighborhood.  I am currently working on 3 posters to place up there this weekend.  If you would like to leave a note in his thread for him I am most happy to include it on his posters.  Words of encouragement, prayers, and well wishes are welcomed...I am sure that his family will love to see how much support and love that they have from everyone. 
I will post pictures of the posters in their new home this weekend.
TIA


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 01:29:05 PM
<snipped>bravo Capps...a few of us have been yammering on this since the whole sad saga began!
Kim is out for Kim and to get her mug on tv...I have said before, if she really had anything on Ron causing abuse to those kids, then she should have filed some sort of emergency through DCFS..and as we see, Crystal still does not have the kids, they have not been taken away from Ron ....speaks volumes to me...what exactly has Kim accomplished while being down there? besides chaos and fighting between the parents of a missing child? time for KP to get the heck outta dodge...jmo

Not being smart or anything but,  there are no KIDS.. now there is only a child, the other one came up missing from Ronalds home in the middle of the night while the adult that was suppose to watching them was Lord only knows where....Also, right now the child that is left is in the Great Grandmothers home, not alone with Ronald and is the main reason nothing has been done right now,,,,,,How do any of us know what Kim is doing, just because Cobra said it does not make it so.........if Cobra speaks the gospel  truth and we are gonna take his word as truth, then where is Haleigh, he said he would find her within the week, that was months ago, he also said NayNay and all the drug dealers he was hunting up, right there under his nose in Satsuma and Palatka, would break this case, well uhhh     NO it didnt happen,   nothing has Haqppened since Cobra jumped on this case but more stories and drama...........



HH.. I am just a tad confused here.  I was under the impression, that Cobra was the one who brought Kim in,  And Cobra was brought in by the Minister..  But, what I don't know, is Who brought Jeremiah Regan in?

Jeremiah Regan has been painting and renovating the small building on US 17 this week ... http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:DRsRkbLQyMkJ:scaredmonkeys.net/index.php%3Ftopic%3D4741.1680+jeremiah+regan+art+harris&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 27, 2009, 01:30:24 PM
thanks Heart...
the Haleighbug center looks abandoned...  ::MonkeyShocked::
This picture is a old picture back when they were first starting the center....its not recent!!

Good afternoon HH~

Just checking in to see when you are headed down to Satsuma again........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 01:30:25 PM
So sorry to break in to your conversation over here... I have posted over in the Adji thread that his memorial is no longer where it once was in front of his neighborhood.  I am currently working on 3 posters to place up there this weekend.  If you would like to leave a note in his thread for him I am most happy to include it on his posters.  Words of encouragement, prayers, and well wishes are welcomed...I am sure that his family will love to see how much support and love that they have from everyone. 
I will post pictures of the posters in their new home this weekend.
TIA

Thank you Dolce!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 01:34:07 PM
I hate to get into the middle of a divide an conquer.  But, I ran across something and just a little curious about it. 

HH since you have spent a great deal of time down at the Haleigh bug center,you might know..   

Did Jeremiah wear dog tags that had Little Haleigh's photo on them?

And, if he did..  Which one of the ladies at the Haleigh Bug Center wore a long sleeved Black pullover top?  With good size rings on her left hand?

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/jeremiahregan20092.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 27, 2009, 01:39:25 PM
I don't know, but is anyone looking for Haleigh, anyone, her dad, her stepmom, her mom, anyone. This has turned into a soap opera, and nothing is being accomplished, He!!, I even wonder if LE is still on this case  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Puzzler on May 27, 2009, 01:40:14 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys!  ::MonkeyCool::

I'm a little confused:  Is the attorney KP supposed to be helping "look for" Haleigh or supposed to be helping Haleigh's mother with legal problems?  TIA



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 27, 2009, 01:40:36 PM
<snipped>bravo Capps...a few of us have been yammering on this since the whole sad saga began!
Kim is out for Kim and to get her mug on tv...I have said before, if she really had anything on Ron causing abuse to those kids, then she should have filed some sort of emergency through DCFS..and as we see, Crystal still does not have the kids, they have not been taken away from Ron ....speaks volumes to me...what exactly has Kim accomplished while being down there? besides chaos and fighting between the parents of a missing child? time for KP to get the heck outta dodge...jmo

Not being smart or anything but,  there are no KIDS.. now there is only a child, the other one came up missing from Ronalds home in the middle of the night while the adult that was suppose to watching them was Lord only knows where....Also, right now the child that is left is in the Great Grandmothers home, not alone with Ronald and is the main reason nothing has been done right now,,,,,,How do any of us know what Kim is doing, just because Cobra said it does not make it so.........if Cobra speaks the gospel  truth and we are gonna take his word as truth, then where is Haleigh, he said he would find her within the week, that was months ago, he also said NayNay and all the drug dealers he was hunting up, right there under his nose in Satsuma and Palatka, would break this case, well uhhh     NO it didnt happen,   nothing has Haqppened since Cobra jumped on this case but more stories and drama...........


I said kids cause of the alleged abuse to both kids...that has been accused...and that with the return of Haleigh, then it would be kids as well...right? and as ornery and mean as some have said on here that Ron is, doubt that granny could really stop him if he wanted to abuse jr...What has Kim done for Crystal and in the hunt for Haleigh? seems that Cobra is the one out looking for Haleigh...none of her family members seem to be looking for her...jmo...of couse...
some  on here have believed what Cobra has said all along, and now that it doesn't bode well for Crystal and her attorney, he is not to be believed? can't have it both ways...either he is credible or he is not....I am not saying that he is or is not...I have said all along though that I think that Kim was down there for her own purposes and not for Crystal and Haleigh and I stand by that...
Well if Cobra is out hunting for Haleigh,      where is he hunting,    she is not  in Satsuma or Palatka or at the Blue crab festival or at MEMa's, or at the Motels or at the jail or anywhere he has been......No he is not hunting for Haleigh, he is hunting for Notoriety, he is no better then anyone else,    showboating is what this case has turned into, heck at this point I wouldnt be surprise if someone didnt watch the saga of the Anthony's and decided to follow suit and get in on the same thing.......makes me sick!

and where is Kim and her bunch looking for Haleigh at?
I think that there has been a lot of showboating in this case....most of it started with Geraldo showing up and who brought him to town?

I never heard Kim proclaim that she was gonna find Haleigh, she said she was there to help Crystal, Cobra is the hunter as he claims and he said he would find her.....thats his show........not Kims,   Geraldo, jumped in this on his own because he wanted his ratings to go up, just like always, he just went wherever he could cause the most trouble!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 27, 2009, 01:41:58 PM
I hate to get into the middle of a divide an conquer.  But, I ran across something and just a little curious about it. 

HH since you have spent a great deal of time down at the Haleigh bug center,you might know..   

Did Jeremiah wear dog tags that had Little Haleigh's photo on them?

And, if he did..  Which one of the ladies at the Haleigh Bug Center wore a long sleeved Black pullover top?  With good size rings on her left hand?

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/jeremiahregan20092.jpg)
The woman in this picture, that is on Jeremiahs My Space default, is a old girlfriend of his and that is the reeason she is cut out,   its not anybody from the Center!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 27, 2009, 01:43:22 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys!  ::MonkeyCool::

I'm a little confused:  Is the attorney KP supposed to be helping "look for" Haleigh or supposed to be helping Haleigh's mother with legal problems?  TIA


AMEN,  although she has looked and went out with people that have come to her and had clues, she is and attorney!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 01:45:18 PM
I don't know, but is anyone looking for Haleigh, anyone, her dad, her stepmom, her mom, anyone. This has turned into a soap opera, and nothing is being accomplished, He!!, I even wonder if LE is still on this case  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I wish I had an answer for you.... But, I don't.. And somewhere in the midst of this soap opera, there are answers.. cloaked and hidden from view.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 01:46:09 PM
<snipped>bravo Capps...a few of us have been yammering on this since the whole sad saga began!
Kim is out for Kim and to get her mug on tv...I have said before, if she really had anything on Ron causing abuse to those kids, then she should have filed some sort of emergency through DCFS..and as we see, Crystal still does not have the kids, they have not been taken away from Ron ....speaks volumes to me...what exactly has Kim accomplished while being down there? besides chaos and fighting between the parents of a missing child? time for KP to get the heck outta dodge...jmo

Not being smart or anything but,  there are no KIDS.. now there is only a child, the other one came up missing from Ronalds home in the middle of the night while the adult that was suppose to watching them was Lord only knows where....Also, right now the child that is left is in the Great Grandmothers home, not alone with Ronald and is the main reason nothing has been done right now,,,,,,How do any of us know what Kim is doing, just because Cobra said it does not make it so.........if Cobra speaks the gospel  truth and we are gonna take his word as truth, then where is Haleigh, he said he would find her within the week, that was months ago, he also said NayNay and all the drug dealers he was hunting up, right there under his nose in Satsuma and Palatka, would break this case, well uhhh     NO it didnt happen,   nothing has Haqppened since Cobra jumped on this case but more stories and drama...........


I said kids cause of the alleged abuse to both kids...that has been accused...and that with the return of Haleigh, then it would be kids as well...right? and as ornery and mean as some have said on here that Ron is, doubt that granny could really stop him if he wanted to abuse jr...What has Kim done for Crystal and in the hunt for Haleigh? seems that Cobra is the one out looking for Haleigh...none of her family members seem to be looking for her...jmo...of couse...
some  on here have believed what Cobra has said all along, and now that it doesn't bode well for Crystal and her attorney, he is not to be believed? can't have it both ways...either he is credible or he is not....I am not saying that he is or is not...I have said all along though that I think that Kim was down there for her own purposes and not for Crystal and Haleigh and I stand by that...
Well if Cobra is out hunting for Haleigh,      where is he hunting,    she is not  in Satsuma or Palatka or at the Blue crab festival or at MEMa's, or at the Motels or at the jail or anywhere he has been......No he is not hunting for Haleigh, he is hunting for Notoriety, he is no better then anyone else,    showboating is what this case has turned into, heck at this point I wouldnt be surprise if someone didnt watch the saga of the Anthony's and decided to follow suit and get in on the same thing.......makes me sick!

and where is Kim and her bunch looking for Haleigh at?
I think that there has been a lot of showboating in this case....most of it started with Geraldo showing up and who brought him to town?

I never heard Kim proclaim that she was gonna find Haleigh, she said she was there to help Crystal, Cobra is the hunter as he claims and he said he would find her.....thats his show........not Kims,   Geraldo, jumped in this on his own because he wanted his ratings to go up, just like always, he just went wherever he could cause the most trouble!!!!

and that turned out to be with Crystal and her bunch right? Who did he do the interviews with? when did the mudslinging start and with who?? just sayin..
and right, Kim is not there to help find Haleigh...as clearly witnessed in her actions...imo....



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 01:46:50 PM
I hate to get into the middle of a divide an conquer.  But, I ran across something and just a little curious about it. 

HH since you have spent a great deal of time down at the Haleigh bug center,you might know..   

Did Jeremiah wear dog tags that had Little Haleigh's photo on them?

And, if he did..  Which one of the ladies at the Haleigh Bug Center wore a long sleeved Black pullover top?  With good size rings on her left hand?

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/jeremiahregan20092.jpg)
The woman in this picture, that is on Jeremiahs My Space default, is a old girlfriend of his and that is the reeason she is cut out,   its not anybody from the Center!!!!!!!

The dog tags,  Do they have an image of Haleigh on it, and how do you know that the photo contained an old girl friend, and they cut her out of the photo to put it on his myspace?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 01:48:00 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys!  ::MonkeyCool::

I'm a little confused:  Is the attorney KP supposed to be helping "look for" Haleigh or supposed to be helping Haleigh's mother with legal problems?  TIA


AMEN,  although she has looked and went out with people that have come to her and had clues, she is and attorney!!!

when and where did she look and with who? never heard this before..
not that she is obligated to do so.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 01:48:50 PM
I hate to get into the middle of a divide an conquer.  But, I ran across something and just a little curious about it. 

HH since you have spent a great deal of time down at the Haleigh bug center,you might know..   

Did Jeremiah wear dog tags that had Little Haleigh's photo on them?

And, if he did..  Which one of the ladies at the Haleigh Bug Center wore a long sleeved Black pullover top?  With good size rings on her left hand?

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/jeremiahregan20092.jpg)
The woman in this picture, that is on Jeremiahs My Space default, is a old girlfriend of his and that is the reeason she is cut out,   its not anybody from the Center!!!!!!!

The dog tags,  Do they have an image of Haleigh on it, and how do you know that the photo contained an old girl friend, and they cut her out of the photo to put it on his myspace?

that was my question too..how do you know that it is an old girlfriend?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 27, 2009, 01:49:19 PM
I hate to get into the middle of a divide an conquer.  But, I ran across something and just a little curious about it. 

HH since you have spent a great deal of time down at the Haleigh bug center,you might know..   

Did Jeremiah wear dog tags that had Little Haleigh's photo on them?

And, if he did..  Which one of the ladies at the Haleigh Bug Center wore a long sleeved Black pullover top?  With good size rings on her left hand?

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/jeremiahregan20092.jpg)
The woman in this picture, that is on Jeremiahs My Space default, is a old girlfriend of his and that is the reeason she is cut out,   its not anybody from the Center!!!!!!!

The dog tags,  Do they have an image of Haleigh on it, and how do you know that the photo contained an old girl friend, and they cut her out of the photo to put it on his myspace?
Because I saw the orginal picture, and no at the time I didnt see a image of Haleigh on the tags......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 27, 2009, 01:49:21 PM
A few names that appear to have ...left the discussions.

Orlando Traylor ~  Just where is he at this time??  He and Ron had a falled out...and now??

Crystal Cummings ~ Ron's sister..was on he TV a few times, appeared ..dazed..or out of it. 

This is Crystal's niece, and appears she is out of the loop.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 01:50:11 PM
<snipped>bravo Capps...a few of us have been yammering on this since the whole sad saga began!
Kim is out for Kim and to get her mug on tv...I have said before, if she really had anything on Ron causing abuse to those kids, then she should have filed some sort of emergency through DCFS..and as we see, Crystal still does not have the kids, they have not been taken away from Ron ....speaks volumes to me...what exactly has Kim accomplished while being down there? besides chaos and fighting between the parents of a missing child? time for KP to get the heck outta dodge...jmo

Not being smart or anything but,  there are no KIDS.. now there is only a child, the other one came up missing from Ronalds home in the middle of the night while the adult that was suppose to watching them was Lord only knows where....Also, right now the child that is left is in the Great Grandmothers home, not alone with Ronald and is the main reason nothing has been done right now,,,,,,How do any of us know what Kim is doing, just because Cobra said it does not make it so.........if Cobra speaks the gospel  truth and we are gonna take his word as truth, then where is Haleigh, he said he would find her within the week, that was months ago, he also said NayNay and all the drug dealers he was hunting up, right there under his nose in Satsuma and Palatka, would break this case, well uhhh     NO it didnt happen,   nothing has Haqppened since Cobra jumped on this case but more stories and drama...........



HH.. I am just a tad confused here.  I was under the impression, that Cobra was the one who brought Kim in,  And Cobra was brought in by the Minister..  But, what I don't know, is Who brought Jeremiah Regan in?
Cobra didnt bring Kim in, Kim brought Kim in by wanting to help Crystal......I have no idea about Jeremiah, I was under the impression that he was contacted by someone local,   dont really know.........

Richard Grund - MySpace.com Blogs - RJ: The Sword of THE KING MySpace Blog


Before I deal with the RUMOR that Cobra and I are doing this for some big movie deal we have going I want to clarify one more point that Cobra will expound upon in the days ahead when he speaks about this.

Cobra reached out to a lawyer he knew in South Florida named Kim Picazio to see if she could help Crystal Sheffield.  He brought her into the case.

Cobra then contacted a journalist he knew named Art Harris (artharris.com) to see if Art wanted to report the story.

Cobra's intent was and is to find Haleigh Cummings and figured that getting the story out there would help.  Now, get ready...here comes the big one...HE SPENT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF HIS OWN MONEY DOING IT!  He was not at any time working for Kim Picazio as has been reported.  He was not working for Crystal Sheffiield.  He was not working for Ronald Cummings even though Ronald tried to hire him; most likely to stop Cobra's investigation into Misty.  Cobra will fill in the rest of the blanks during his upcoming interview but I wanted to get that out there.

more...http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:QjcZ4BTuXkQJ:blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm%3Ffuseaction%3Dblog.ListAll%26friendId%3D85212505+richard+grund+cobra+nancy+grace&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 27, 2009, 01:51:27 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys!  ::MonkeyCool::

I'm a little confused:  Is the attorney KP supposed to be helping "look for" Haleigh or supposed to be helping Haleigh's mother with legal problems?  TIA


AMEN,  although she has looked and went out with people that have come to her and had clues, she is and attorney!!!

when and where did she look and with who? never heard this before..
not that she is obligated to do so.....
She went wading out in the swamps with a couple of Pychic women that proclaimed that that was where Haleigh ws and she went with them and borrowed a boat from ond old man that lived at the edge of this swamp........she went with several of Mistys friends around town to different houses and places that they took her to question different people.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 01:53:50 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys!  ::MonkeyCool::

I'm a little confused:  Is the attorney KP supposed to be helping "look for" Haleigh or supposed to be helping Haleigh's mother with legal problems?  TIA


AMEN,  although she has looked and went out with people that have come to her and had clues, she is and attorney!!!

when and where did she look and with who? never heard this before..
not that she is obligated to do so.....
She went wading out in the swamps with a couple of Pychic women that proclaimed that that was where Haleigh ws and she went with them and borrowed a boat from ond old man that lived at the edge of this swamp........she went with several of Mistys friends around town to different houses and places that they took her to question different people.....

did she tell you this? just wondering cause I haven't heard this at all...she went with Misty's friends? why with her friends?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 01:54:57 PM
I hate to get into the middle of a divide an conquer.  But, I ran across something and just a little curious about it. 

HH since you have spent a great deal of time down at the Haleigh bug center,you might know..   


Did Jeremiah wear dog tags that had Little Haleigh's photo on them?

And, if he did..  Which one of the ladies at the Haleigh Bug Center wore a long sleeved Black pullover top?  With good size rings on her left hand?

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/jeremiahregan20092.jpg)
The woman in this picture, that is on Jeremiahs My Space default, is a old girlfriend of his and that is the reeason she is cut out,   its not anybody from the Center!!!!!!!

The dog tags,  Do they have an image of Haleigh on it, and how do you know that the photo contained an old girl friend, and they cut her out of the photo to put it on his myspace?
Because I saw the orginal picture, and no at the time I didnt see a image of Haleigh on the tags......

Why would there be an original photo of him and his girl friend at the Haleigh Bug center?  Did he show you his family photos?   Also have you ever heard of these people? Did Crystal or Kim ever talk about them?
Frank E. Sheffield
Roxanne Sheffield

Both from Tallahassee
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 27, 2009, 01:56:30 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys!  ::MonkeyCool::

I'm a little confused:  Is the attorney KP supposed to be helping "look for" Haleigh or supposed to be helping Haleigh's mother with legal problems?  TIA


AMEN,  although she has looked and went out with people that have come to her and had clues, she is and attorney!!!

when and where did she look and with who? never heard this before..
not that she is obligated to do so.....
She went wading out in the swamps with a couple of Pychic women that proclaimed that that was where Haleigh ws and she went with them and borrowed a boat from ond old man that lived at the edge of this swamp........she went with several of Mistys friends around town to different houses and places that they took her to question different people.....

did she tell you this? just wondering cause I haven't heard this at all...she went with Misty's friends? why with her friends?
she did tell me an so did the women, and Mistys friends she contacted for any info that she could get and they agreed to help in whatever way they could, and so thats what they did, it didnt pan out to be anything, but she did check and recheck diffeerent people...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 01:56:33 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys!  ::MonkeyCool::

I'm a little confused:  Is the attorney KP supposed to be helping "look for" Haleigh or supposed to be helping Haleigh's mother with legal problems?  TIA


AMEN,  although she has looked and went out with people that have come to her and had clues, she is and attorney!!!

when and where did she look and with who? never heard this before..
not that she is obligated to do so.....
She went wading out in the swamps with a couple of Pychic women that proclaimed that that was where Haleigh ws and she went with them and borrowed a boat from ond old man that lived at the edge of this swamp........she went with several of Mistys friends around town to different houses and places that they took her to question different people.....

did she tell you this? just wondering cause I haven't heard this at all...she went with Misty's friends? why with her friends?
sorry to be questioning HH, but can not picture Kim wading out into a swamp with some psychic women and getting into a borrowed boat   ::MonkeyConfused::  sorry...can't picture her doing something like that....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 27, 2009, 01:57:37 PM
I hate to get into the middle of a divide an conquer.  But, I ran across something and just a little curious about it. 

HH since you have spent a great deal of time down at the Haleigh bug center,you might know..   


Did Jeremiah wear dog tags that had Little Haleigh's photo on them?

And, if he did..  Which one of the ladies at the Haleigh Bug Center wore a long sleeved Black pullover top?  With good size rings on her left hand?

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/jeremiahregan20092.jpg)
The woman in this picture, that is on Jeremiahs My Space default, is a old girlfriend of his and that is the reeason she is cut out,   its not anybody from the Center!!!!!!!

The dog tags,  Do they have an image of Haleigh on it, and how do you know that the photo contained an old girl friend, and they cut her out of the photo to put it on his myspace?
Because I saw the orginal picture, and no at the time I didnt see a image of Haleigh on the tags......

Why would there be an original photo of him and his girl friend at the Haleigh Bug center?  Did he show you his family photos?   Also have you ever heard of these people? Did Crystal or Kim ever talk about them?
Frank E. Sheffield
Roxanne Sheffield

Both from Tallahassee
 
I never said the photo was at the Haleigh Center, and no I haev never heard of these people or heard of anyone talkiing about them!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Blue Moon on May 27, 2009, 01:58:03 PM
JMO, I used to come here every day to see if there is any news on Haleigh yet but after today and seeing all the sniping and back and forth I do believe I will not get my news from this thread anymore.  Haleigh is GONE, her underage step-mother (Ha Ha) was last to be seen with her and the LE in that little screwed up town cannot/willnot do anything to bring this child home.  Ron is a bully who abuses his "girlfriends" and his children, Chrystal needs to grow up and become responsible and the remaining child needs to be removed FROM ALL OF THEM NOW.  Sides have been taken here and the snide comments back and forth is not getting anything accomplished for this child.  Go to the Natalee Holloway thread and read about corruption in Aruba and there is your answer to what has become of this case.  LE appears to me to be inept and cannot/will not solve this and bring this child home. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 02:00:07 PM
I hate to get into the middle of a divide an conquer.  But, I ran across something and just a little curious about it. 

HH since you have spent a great deal of time down at the Haleigh bug center,you might know..   


Did Jeremiah wear dog tags that had Little Haleigh's photo on them?

And, if he did..  Which one of the ladies at the Haleigh Bug Center wore a long sleeved Black pullover top?  With good size rings on her left hand?

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/jeremiahregan20092.jpg)
The woman in this picture, that is on Jeremiahs My Space default, is a old girlfriend of his and that is the reeason she is cut out,   its not anybody from the Center!!!!!!!

The dog tags,  Do they have an image of Haleigh on it, and how do you know that the photo contained an old girl friend, and they cut her out of the photo to put it on his myspace?
Because I saw the orginal picture, and no at the time I didnt see a image of Haleigh on the tags......

Why would there be an original photo of him and his girl friend at the Haleigh Bug center?  Did he show you his family photos?   Also have you ever heard of these people? Did Crystal or Kim ever talk about them?
Frank E. Sheffield
Roxanne Sheffield

Both from Tallahassee
 
I never said the photo was at the Haleigh Center, and no I haev never heard of these people or heard of anyone talkiing about them!!

That's okay, I have Cobra's address. I will write and ask him these questions, he was around there alot.... thanks anyway.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 27, 2009, 02:00:43 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys!  ::MonkeyCool::

I'm a little confused:  Is the attorney KP supposed to be helping "look for" Haleigh or supposed to be helping Haleigh's mother with legal problems?  TIA


AMEN,  although she has looked and went out with people that have come to her and had clues, she is and attorney!!!

when and where did she look and with who? never heard this before..
not that she is obligated to do so.....
She went wading out in the swamps with a couple of Pychic women that proclaimed that that was where Haleigh ws and she went with them and borrowed a boat from ond old man that lived at the edge of this swamp........she went with several of Mistys friends around town to different houses and places that they took her to question different people.....

did she tell you this? just wondering cause I haven't heard this at all...she went with Misty's friends? why with her friends?
sorry to be questioning HH, but can not picture Kim wading out into a swamp with some psychic women and getting into a borrowed boat   ::MonkeyConfused::  sorry...can't picture her doing something like that....
Then your wrong because the LE has the report of what happened and the pictures and the other people involved has handed in there statement also.......The old guy that owned the boat handed in one and so did the pychic ladies, so yea, it happened ..........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 27, 2009, 02:02:26 PM
I hate to get into the middle of a divide an conquer.  But, I ran across something and just a little curious about it. 

HH since you have spent a great deal of time down at the Haleigh bug center,you might know..   


Did Jeremiah wear dog tags that had Little Haleigh's photo on them?

And, if he did..  Which one of the ladies at the Haleigh Bug Center wore a long sleeved Black pullover top?  With good size rings on her left hand?

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/jeremiahregan20092.jpg)
The woman in this picture, that is on Jeremiahs My Space default, is a old girlfriend of his and that is the reeason she is cut out,   its not anybody from the Center!!!!!!!

The dog tags,  Do they have an image of Haleigh on it, and how do you know that the photo contained an old girl friend, and they cut her out of the photo to put it on his myspace?
Because I saw the orginal picture, and no at the time I didnt see a image of Haleigh on the tags......

Why would there be an original photo of him and his girl friend at the Haleigh Bug center?  Did he show you his family photos?   Also have you ever heard of these people? Did Crystal or Kim ever talk about them?
Frank E. Sheffield
Roxanne Sheffield

Both from Tallahassee
 
I never said the photo was at the Haleigh Center, and no I haev never heard of these people or heard of anyone talkiing about them!!

That's okay, I have Cobra's address. I will write and ask him these questions, he was around there alot.... thanks anyway.
I answered your questions, but of course by all means ask Cobra!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 27, 2009, 02:06:22 PM
JMO, I used to come here every day to see if there is any news on Haleigh yet but after today and seeing all the sniping and back and forth I do believe I will not get my news from this thread anymore.  Haleigh is GONE, her underage step-mother (Ha Ha) was last to be seen with her and the LE in that little screwed up town cannot/willnot do anything to bring this child home.  Ron is a bully who abuses his "girlfriends" and his children, Chrystal needs to grow up and become responsible and the remaining child needs to be removed FROM ALL OF THEM NOW.  Sides have been taken here and the snide comments back and forth is not getting anything accomplished for this child.  Go to the Natalee Holloway thread and read about corruption in Aruba and there is your answer to what has become of this case.  LE appears to me to be inept and cannot/will not solve this and bring this child home. JMO
Blue Moon, I am with you on this, corruption, inept investigation, people that should go home because they are just causing more damage, and I believe Haleigh is gone also, I just don't see it any other way, God knows I have tried. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 02:06:57 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys!  ::MonkeyCool::

I'm a little confused:  Is the attorney KP supposed to be helping "look for" Haleigh or supposed to be helping Haleigh's mother with legal problems?  TIA


AMEN,  although she has looked and went out with people that have come to her and had clues, she is and attorney!!!

when and where did she look and with who? never heard this before..
not that she is obligated to do so.....
She went wading out in the swamps with a couple of Pychic women that proclaimed that that was where Haleigh ws and she went with them and borrowed a boat from ond old man that lived at the edge of this swamp........she went with several of Mistys friends around town to different houses and places that they took her to question different people.....

did she tell you this? just wondering cause I haven't heard this at all...she went with Misty's friends? why with her friends?
sorry to be questioning HH, but can not picture Kim wading out into a swamp with some psychic women and getting into a borrowed boat   ::MonkeyConfused::  sorry...can't picture her doing something like that....
Then your wrong because the LE has the report of what happened and the pictures and the other people involved has handed in there statement also.......The old guy that owned the boat handed in one and so did the pychic ladies, so yea, it happened ..........

I would love to see those pictures of Kim wading around in a swamp....you gotta admit that she would not seem the type to do that....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 27, 2009, 02:10:54 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys!  ::MonkeyCool::

I'm a little confused:  Is the attorney KP supposed to be helping "look for" Haleigh or supposed to be helping Haleigh's mother with legal problems?  TIA


AMEN,  although she has looked and went out with people that have come to her and had clues, she is and attorney!!!

when and where did she look and with who? never heard this before..
not that she is obligated to do so.....
She went wading out in the swamps with a couple of Pychic women that proclaimed that that was where Haleigh ws and she went with them and borrowed a boat from ond old man that lived at the edge of this swamp........she went with several of Mistys friends around town to different houses and places that they took her to question different people.....

did she tell you this? just wondering cause I haven't heard this at all...she went with Misty's friends? why with her friends?
sorry to be questioning HH, but can not picture Kim wading out into a swamp with some psychic women and getting into a borrowed boat   ::MonkeyConfused::  sorry...can't picture her doing something like that....
Then your wrong because the LE has the report of what happened and the pictures and the other people involved has handed in there statement also.......The old guy that owned the boat handed in one and so did the pychic ladies, so yea, it happened ..........

I would love to see those pictures of Kim wading around in a swamp....you gotta admit that she would not seem the type to do that....

What do you mean "not seem the type" I have seen her on her hands and knees cleaning up at the center, I have seen her sweeping off the cement in front of the Haleigh center, I have seen her doing all kinds of things, I dont know what you mean by "seem the type"........she isnt worried about doing that kind of stuff!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 02:15:37 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys!  ::MonkeyCool::

I'm a little confused:  Is the attorney KP supposed to be helping "look for" Haleigh or supposed to be helping Haleigh's mother with legal problems?  TIA


AMEN,  although she has looked and went out with people that have come to her and had clues, she is and attorney!!!

when and where did she look and with who? never heard this before..
not that she is obligated to do so.....
She went wading out in the swamps with a couple of Pychic women that proclaimed that that was where Haleigh ws and she went with them and borrowed a boat from ond old man that lived at the edge of this swamp........she went with several of Mistys friends around town to different houses and places that they took her to question different people.....

did she tell you this? just wondering cause I haven't heard this at all...she went with Misty's friends? why with her friends?
sorry to be questioning HH, but can not picture Kim wading out into a swamp with some psychic women and getting into a borrowed boat   ::MonkeyConfused::  sorry...can't picture her doing something like that....
Then your wrong because the LE has the report of what happened and the pictures and the other people involved has handed in there statement also.......The old guy that owned the boat handed in one and so did the pychic ladies, so yea, it happened ..........

I would love to see those pictures of Kim wading around in a swamp....you gotta admit that she would not seem the type to do that....

What do you mean "not seem the type" I have seen her on her hands and knees cleaning up at the center, I have seen her sweeping off the cement in front of the Haleigh center, I have seen her doing all kinds of things, I dont know what you mean by "seem the type"........she isnt worried about doing that kind of stuff!!!
sweeping off a cement front is hardly the same as wading through a swamp ....
And no, she doesn't seem the type to do any of that stuff either...sorry.,...that is my feeling...from what I have seen of her...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 27, 2009, 02:15:46 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys!  ::MonkeyCool::

I'm a little confused:  Is the attorney KP supposed to be helping "look for" Haleigh or supposed to be helping Haleigh's mother with legal problems?  TIA


AMEN,  although she has looked and went out with people that have come to her and had clues, she is and attorney!!!

when and where did she look and with who? never heard this before..
not that she is obligated to do so.....
She went wading out in the swamps with a couple of Pychic women that proclaimed that that was where Haleigh ws and she went with them and borrowed a boat from ond old man that lived at the edge of this swamp........she went with several of Mistys friends around town to different houses and places that they took her to question different people.....

did she tell you this? just wondering cause I haven't heard this at all...she went with Misty's friends? why with her friends?
sorry to be questioning HH, but can not picture Kim wading out into a swamp with some psychic women and getting into a borrowed boat   ::MonkeyConfused::  sorry...can't picture her doing something like that....

I CAN verify this........this was a while back and some psychic called and told them that Haleigh was on one of the Islands around in that area, (this came from Marie FYI), and IIRC they even went at night to search, Crystal and Marie so desperate that they will look anywhere, anytime even just from a randon psychic tip -------and KP was with them.

HH~If I have any part of that wrong let me know, it was  a long time ago when Marie gave me this info, I'm thinking late March or early April FWIR.

IM


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 27, 2009, 02:17:31 PM
JMO, I used to come here every day to see if there is any news on Haleigh yet but after today and seeing all the sniping and back and forth I do believe I will not get my news from this thread anymore.  Haleigh is GONE, her underage step-mother (Ha Ha) was last to be seen with her and the LE in that little screwed up town cannot/willnot do anything to bring this child home.  Ron is a bully who abuses his "girlfriends" and his children, Chrystal needs to grow up and become responsible and the remaining child needs to be removed FROM ALL OF THEM NOW.  Sides have been taken here and the snide comments back and forth is not getting anything accomplished for this child.  Go to the Natalee Holloway thread and read about corruption in Aruba and there is your answer to what has become of this case.  LE appears to me to be inept and cannot/will not solve this and bring this child home. JMO
Blue Moon, I am with you on this, corruption, inept investigation, people that should go home because they are just causing more damage, and I believe Haleigh is gone also, I just don't see it any other way, God knows I have tried. ::MonkeyNoNo::
Yes, Rose, its all so petty and childish, the only thing that matters is Haleigh and thats who everybody should be concerned with, right now for some it has become a mud slinging match and the ones that are slinging has dirty hands!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 02:17:59 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys!  ::MonkeyCool::

I'm a little confused:  Is the attorney KP supposed to be helping "look for" Haleigh or supposed to be helping Haleigh's mother with legal problems?  TIA


AMEN,  although she has looked and went out with people that have come to her and had clues, she is and attorney!!!

when and where did she look and with who? never heard this before..
not that she is obligated to do so.....
She went wading out in the swamps with a couple of Pychic women that proclaimed that that was where Haleigh ws and she went with them and borrowed a boat from ond old man that lived at the edge of this swamp........she went with several of Mistys friends around town to different houses and places that they took her to question different people.....

did she tell you this? just wondering cause I haven't heard this at all...she went with Misty's friends? why with her friends?
sorry to be questioning HH, but can not picture Kim wading out into a swamp with some psychic women and getting into a borrowed boat   ::MonkeyConfused::  sorry...can't picture her doing something like that....

I CAN verify this........this was a while back and some psychic called and told them that Haleigh was on one of the Islands around in that area, (this came from Marie FYI), and IIRC they even went at night to search, Crystal and Marie so desperate that they will look anywhere, anytime even just from a randon psychic tip -------and KP was with them.

HH~If I have any part of that wrong let me know, it was  a long time ago when Marie gave me this info, I'm thinking late March or early April FWIR.

IM

if this is true, then how did the LE get the photos of it and get a report on it? did they go with as well?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 27, 2009, 02:19:51 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys!  ::MonkeyCool::

I'm a little confused:  Is the attorney KP supposed to be helping "look for" Haleigh or supposed to be helping Haleigh's mother with legal problems?  TIA


AMEN,  although she has looked and went out with people that have come to her and had clues, she is and attorney!!!

when and where did she look and with who? never heard this before..
not that she is obligated to do so.....
She went wading out in the swamps with a couple of Pychic women that proclaimed that that was where Haleigh ws and she went with them and borrowed a boat from ond old man that lived at the edge of this swamp........she went with several of Mistys friends around town to different houses and places that they took her to question different people.....

did she tell you this? just wondering cause I haven't heard this at all...she went with Misty's friends? why with her friends?
sorry to be questioning HH, but can not picture Kim wading out into a swamp with some psychic women and getting into a borrowed boat   ::MonkeyConfused::  sorry...can't picture her doing something like that....
Then your wrong because the LE has the report of what happened and the pictures and the other people involved has handed in there statement also.......The old guy that owned the boat handed in one and so did the pychic ladies, so yea, it happened ..........

I would love to see those pictures of Kim wading around in a swamp....you gotta admit that she would not seem the type to do that....

What do you mean "not seem the type" I have seen her on her hands and knees cleaning up at the center, I have seen her sweeping off the cement in front of the Haleigh center, I have seen her doing all kinds of things, I dont know what you mean by "seem the type"........she isnt worried about doing that kind of stuff!!!
sweeping off a cement front is hardly the same as wading through a swamp ....
And no, she doesn't seem the type to do any of that stuff either...sorry.,...that is my feeling...from what I have seen of her...
and what have you seen of her......her clips on the news, her slot on NG.....how do you get and opinion of someone and what they would do from 10 minutes of them sitting in a chair talking about a case...........I dont get it!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 27, 2009, 02:20:28 PM
JMO, I used to come here every day to see if there is any news on Haleigh yet but after today and seeing all the sniping and back and forth I do believe I will not get my news from this thread anymore.  Haleigh is GONE, her underage step-mother (Ha Ha) was last to be seen with her and the LE in that little screwed up town cannot/willnot do anything to bring this child home.  Ron is a bully who abuses his "girlfriends" and his children, Chrystal needs to grow up and become responsible and the remaining child needs to be removed FROM ALL OF THEM NOW.  Sides have been taken here and the snide comments back and forth is not getting anything accomplished for this child.  Go to the Natalee Holloway thread and read about corruption in Aruba and there is your answer to what has become of this case.  LE appears to me to be inept and cannot/will not solve this and bring this child home. JMO
Blue Moon, I am with you on this, corruption, inept investigation, people that should go home because they are just causing more damage, and I believe Haleigh is gone also, I just don't see it any other way, God knows I have tried. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Ditto~I'm beginning to wonder if LE lays off the backs of the druggie's in lieu of kickbacks, heaven knows nobody gets any punishment in that town....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 27, 2009, 02:23:16 PM
JMO, I used to come here every day to see if there is any news on Haleigh yet but after today and seeing all the sniping and back and forth I do believe I will not get my news from this thread anymore.  Haleigh is GONE, her underage step-mother (Ha Ha) was last to be seen with her and the LE in that little screwed up town cannot/willnot do anything to bring this child home.  Ron is a bully who abuses his "girlfriends" and his children, Chrystal needs to grow up and become responsible and the remaining child needs to be removed FROM ALL OF THEM NOW.  Sides have been taken here and the snide comments back and forth is not getting anything accomplished for this child.  Go to the Natalee Holloway thread and read about corruption in Aruba and there is your answer to what has become of this case.  LE appears to me to be inept and cannot/will not solve this and bring this child home. JMO
Blue Moon, I am with you on this, corruption, inept investigation, people that should go home because they are just causing more damage, and I believe Haleigh is gone also, I just don't see it any other way, God knows I have tried. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Ditto~I'm beginning to wonder if LE lays off the backs of the druggie's in lieu of kickbacks, heaven knows nobody gets any punishment in that town....
I am so disgusted with all of this and some other cases, I could just scream. I do hope that little Elijah is doing good  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 27, 2009, 02:25:00 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys!  ::MonkeyCool::

I'm a little confused:  Is the attorney KP supposed to be helping "look for" Haleigh or supposed to be helping Haleigh's mother with legal problems?  TIA


AMEN,  although she has looked and went out with people that have come to her and had clues, she is and attorney!!!

when and where did she look and with who? never heard this before..
not that she is obligated to do so.....
She went wading out in the swamps with a couple of Pychic women that proclaimed that that was where Haleigh ws and she went with them and borrowed a boat from ond old man that lived at the edge of this swamp........she went with several of Mistys friends around town to different houses and places that they took her to question different people.....

did she tell you this? just wondering cause I haven't heard this at all...she went with Misty's friends? why with her friends?
sorry to be questioning HH, but can not picture Kim wading out into a swamp with some psychic women and getting into a borrowed boat   ::MonkeyConfused::  sorry...can't picture her doing something like that....

I CAN verify this........this was a while back and some psychic called and told them that Haleigh was on one of the Islands around in that area, (this came from Marie FYI), and IIRC they even went at night to search, Crystal and Marie so desperate that they will look anywhere, anytime even just from a randon psychic tip -------and KP was with them.

HH~If I have any part of that wrong let me know, it was  a long time ago when Marie gave me this info, I'm thinking late March or early April FWIR.

IM

if this is true, then how did the LE get the photos of it and get a report on it? did they go with as well?

Cookie~I wasn't about to question Marie about who got pictures from what, seriously I couldn't believe they were out searching an outlying Island in the middle of the night out of pure desperation so I didn't feel the need to quiz her over minutia............just got the facts and moved on from there.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 27, 2009, 02:25:32 PM
Island, yes the phychic women instisted several times that Haleigh was in that swamp, there was a marker attached to a tree and they said they just knew that that was where Haleigh was at...........after several times of driving as far as they could and looking at the location through binoculars and seaching around the area they could walk on, these women continued to come back so one day....Kim just said OK  lets go out to that area and see what is there up close......she got in the vehicle with the ladies, and she wouldnt let Crystal come just in case something did turn up.......she went out there....she walked around until she saw a small cabin in the woods and walked up to it because there was a boat leaning up against a tree and she asked the old man that lived there could she borrow the boat, he let her and they proceded to roll out to the area the ladies were talking about.........it turned out to be a marker for a trout line, and Kim pulled and pulled until they got it up all to no avail, it was nothing!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 02:27:30 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys!  ::MonkeyCool::

I'm a little confused:  Is the attorney KP supposed to be helping "look for" Haleigh or supposed to be helping Haleigh's mother with legal problems?  TIA


AMEN,  although she has looked and went out with people that have come to her and had clues, she is and attorney!!!

when and where did she look and with who? never heard this before..
not that she is obligated to do so.....
She went wading out in the swamps with a couple of Pychic women that proclaimed that that was where Haleigh ws and she went with them and borrowed a boat from ond old man that lived at the edge of this swamp........she went with several of Mistys friends around town to different houses and places that they took her to question different people.....

did she tell you this? just wondering cause I haven't heard this at all...she went with Misty's friends? why with her friends?
sorry to be questioning HH, but can not picture Kim wading out into a swamp with some psychic women and getting into a borrowed boat   ::MonkeyConfused::  sorry...can't picture her doing something like that....
Then your wrong because the LE has the report of what happened and the pictures and the other people involved has handed in there statement also.......The old guy that owned the boat handed in one and so did the pychic ladies, so yea, it happened ..........

I would love to see those pictures of Kim wading around in a swamp....you gotta admit that she would not seem the type to do that....

What do you mean "not seem the type" I have seen her on her hands and knees cleaning up at the center, I have seen her sweeping off the cement in front of the Haleigh center, I have seen her doing all kinds of things, I dont know what you mean by "seem the type"........she isnt worried about doing that kind of stuff!!!
sweeping off a cement front is hardly the same as wading through a swamp ....
And no, she doesn't seem the type to do any of that stuff either...sorry.,...that is my feeling...from what I have seen of her...
and what have you seen of her......her clips on the news, her slot on NG.....how do you get and opinion of someone and what they would do from 10 minutes of them sitting in a chair talking about a case...........I dont get it!!!
same as you have formed an opinion of others just from clips and gossip and rumors....no different..
I have an opinion of Kim and that is my opinion...doesn't mean that you have to feel the same...same as I think that Misty has something to hide...just from the clips that I have seen on tv...just that I don't think that Crystal is comfortable with all the mudslinging that she has participated in against ron...from clips on tv...I don't think that she would have been involved in any of that if Kim had not been there egging her on....again, just my opinions....feelings that one gets from watching and listening....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 27, 2009, 02:28:57 PM
JMO, I used to come here every day to see if there is any news on Haleigh yet but after today and seeing all the sniping and back and forth I do believe I will not get my news from this thread anymore.  Haleigh is GONE, her underage step-mother (Ha Ha) was last to be seen with her and the LE in that little screwed up town cannot/willnot do anything to bring this child home.  Ron is a bully who abuses his "girlfriends" and his children, Chrystal needs to grow up and become responsible and the remaining child needs to be removed FROM ALL OF THEM NOW.  Sides have been taken here and the snide comments back and forth is not getting anything accomplished for this child.  Go to the Natalee Holloway thread and read about corruption in Aruba and there is your answer to what has become of this case.  LE appears to me to be inept and cannot/will not solve this and bring this child home. JMO
Blue Moon, I am with you on this, corruption, inept investigation, people that should go home because they are just causing more damage, and I believe Haleigh is gone also, I just don't see it any other way, God knows I have tried. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Ditto~I'm beginning to wonder if LE lays off the backs of the druggie's in lieu of kickbacks, heaven knows nobody gets any punishment in that town....
I am so disgusted with all of this and some other cases, I could just scream. I do hope that little Elijah is doing good  ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks for asking!!!!!!! He had a rough patch last week, but today and this past weekend he's doing wonderful...........maybe he know we've moved and have a special  room just for him and he's ready to come home and let me spoil him rotten to the core


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 02:30:33 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys!  ::MonkeyCool::

I'm a little confused:  Is the attorney KP supposed to be helping "look for" Haleigh or supposed to be helping Haleigh's mother with legal problems?  TIA


AMEN,  although she has looked and went out with people that have come to her and had clues, she is and attorney!!!

when and where did she look and with who? never heard this before..
not that she is obligated to do so.....
She went wading out in the swamps with a couple of Pychic women that proclaimed that that was where Haleigh ws and she went with them and borrowed a boat from ond old man that lived at the edge of this swamp........she went with several of Mistys friends around town to different houses and places that they took her to question different people.....

did she tell you this? just wondering cause I haven't heard this at all...she went with Misty's friends? why with her friends?
sorry to be questioning HH, but can not picture Kim wading out into a swamp with some psychic women and getting into a borrowed boat   ::MonkeyConfused::  sorry...can't picture her doing something like that....

I CAN verify this........this was a while back and some psychic called and told them that Haleigh was on one of the Islands around in that area, (this came from Marie FYI), and IIRC they even went at night to search, Crystal and Marie so desperate that they will look anywhere, anytime even just from a randon psychic tip -------and KP was with them.

HH~If I have any part of that wrong let me know, it was  a long time ago when Marie gave me this info, I'm thinking late March or early April FWIR.

IM

if this is true, then how did the LE get the photos of it and get a report on it? did they go with as well?

Cookie~I wasn't about to question Marie about who got pictures from what, seriously I couldn't believe they were out searching an outlying Island in the middle of the night out of pure desperation so I didn't feel the need to quiz her over minutia............just got the facts and moved on from there.

agreed....HH had said that LE had a report on this and also photos of it a few posts up so that is why I had questions about that part...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 27, 2009, 02:31:32 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys!  ::MonkeyCool::

I'm a little confused:  Is the attorney KP supposed to be helping "look for" Haleigh or supposed to be helping Haleigh's mother with legal problems?  TIA


AMEN,  although she has looked and went out with people that have come to her and had clues, she is and attorney!!!

when and where did she look and with who? never heard this before..
not that she is obligated to do so.....
She went wading out in the swamps with a couple of Pychic women that proclaimed that that was where Haleigh ws and she went with them and borrowed a boat from ond old man that lived at the edge of this swamp........she went with several of Mistys friends around town to different houses and places that they took her to question different people.....

did she tell you this? just wondering cause I haven't heard this at all...she went with Misty's friends? why with her friends?
sorry to be questioning HH, but can not picture Kim wading out into a swamp with some psychic women and getting into a borrowed boat   ::MonkeyConfused::  sorry...can't picture her doing something like that....
Then your wrong because the LE has the report of what happened and the pictures and the other people involved has handed in there statement also.......The old guy that owned the boat handed in one and so did the pychic ladies, so yea, it happened ..........

I would love to see those pictures of Kim wading around in a swamp....you gotta admit that she would not seem the type to do that....

What do you mean "not seem the type" I have seen her on her hands and knees cleaning up at the center, I have seen her sweeping off the cement in front of the Haleigh center, I have seen her doing all kinds of things, I dont know what you mean by "seem the type"........she isnt worried about doing that kind of stuff!!!
sweeping off a cement front is hardly the same as wading through a swamp ....
And no, she doesn't seem the type to do any of that stuff either...sorry.,...that is my feeling...from what I have seen of her...
and what have you seen of her......her clips on the news, her slot on NG.....how do you get and opinion of someone and what they would do from 10 minutes of them sitting in a chair talking about a case...........I dont get it!!!
same as you have formed an opinion of others just from clips and gossip and rumors....no different..
I have an opinion of Kim and that is my opinion...doesn't mean that you have to feel the same...same as I think that Misty has something to hide...just from the clips that I have seen on tv...just that I don't think that Crystal is comfortable with all the mudslinging that she has participated in against ron...from clips on tv...I don't think that she would have been involved in any of that if Kim had not been there egging her on....again, just my opinions....feelings that one gets from watching and listening....

I havent formed and opinion from watching clips, I have gotten and opinion from being right there standing beside her and watching her do things and listening to what she says and how she acts, I have heard Crystal herself sya things, about what Ronald has done and her feelings about Misty and her feelings that Jr. might not be safe, all without Kim even being in the room!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 27, 2009, 02:32:17 PM
Island, yes the phychic women instisted several times that Haleigh was in that swamp, there was a marker attached to a tree and they said they just knew that that was where Haleigh was at...........after several times of driving as far as they could and looking at the location through binoculars and seaching around the area they could walk on, these women continued to come back so one day....Kim just said OK  lets go out to that area and see what is there up close......she got in the vehicle with the ladies, and she wouldnt let Crystal come just in case something did turn up.......she went out there....she walked around until she saw a small cabin in the woods and walked up to it because there was a boat leaning up against a tree and she asked the old man that lived there could she borrow the boat, he let her and they proceded to roll out to the area the ladies were talking about.........it turned out to be a marker for a trout line, and Kim pulled and pulled until they got it up all to no avail, it was nothing!!!!!

That's what I recalled ( but hey my brain is toast at this point!), it just broke my heart that Crystal and her family truly believed so deeply she was out there and I just felt I knew she wasn't......they are so desperate they will follow up on anything to believe she is coming come, and sadly I think it's been way too long for that.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mymonkey on May 27, 2009, 02:33:10 PM
I think we are feeling frustration ::MonkeyWaa::over Haleigh not being found and to add salt to the wound another child comes up missing every few days....its just over whelming and it takes a tow on everyone....just try and put yourself in the shoes of these families...we have a lot to be thankful for and should stay positive and pray for  the families and searchers and LE....put our energy into prayer...not bickering...jmo ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 27, 2009, 02:33:56 PM
Island, yes the phychic women instisted several times that Haleigh was in that swamp, there was a marker attached to a tree and they said they just knew that that was where Haleigh was at...........after several times of driving as far as they could and looking at the location through binoculars and seaching around the area they could walk on, these women continued to come back so one day....Kim just said OK  lets go out to that area and see what is there up close......she got in the vehicle with the ladies, and she wouldnt let Crystal come just in case something did turn up.......she went out there....she walked around until she saw a small cabin in the woods and walked up to it because there was a boat leaning up against a tree and she asked the old man that lived there could she borrow the boat, he let her and they proceded to roll out to the area the ladies were talking about.........it turned out to be a marker for a trout line, and Kim pulled and pulled until they got it up all to no avail, it was nothing!!!!!

That's what I recalled ( but hey my brain is toast at this point!), it just broke my heart that Crystal and her family truly believed so deeply she was out there and I just felt I knew she wasn't......they are so desperate they will follow up on anything to believe she is coming come, and sadly I think it's been way too long for that.
I agree, I dont think she is ever coming home, at least not the way she left!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Cappuccino on May 27, 2009, 02:50:11 PM
<snipped>bravo Capps...a few of us have been yammering on this since the whole sad saga began!
Kim is out for Kim and to get her mug on tv...I have said before, if she really had anything on Ron causing abuse to those kids, then she should have filed some sort of emergency through DCFS..and as we see, Crystal still does not have the kids, they have not been taken away from Ron ....speaks volumes to me...what exactly has Kim accomplished while being down there? besides chaos and fighting between the parents of a missing child? time for KP to get the heck outta dodge...jmo

Not being smart or anything but,  there are no KIDS.. now there is only a child, the other one came up missing from Ronalds home in the middle of the night while the adult that was suppose to watching them was Lord only knows where....Also, right now the child that is left is in the Great Grandmothers home, not alone with Ronald and is the main reason nothing has been done right now,,,,,,How do any of us know what Kim is doing, just because Cobra said it does not make it so.........if Cobra speaks the gospel  truth and we are gonna take his word as truth, then where is Haleigh, he said he would find her within the week, that was months ago, he also said NayNay and all the drug dealers he was hunting up, right there under his nose in Satsuma and Palatka, would break this case, well uhhh     NO it didnt happen,   nothing has Haqppened since Cobra jumped on this case but more stories and drama...........



For clarification purposes, plural is correct because there is no proof that Haleigh is no longer with us & custody would include her even in absentia until otherwise determined, pray not.   Secondly, Haleigh being  abducted from her home under whose care was NOT the issue being discussed in these two posts...and while I can attest personally that I'm not taking any individuals word as gospel, I speak to the facts which everyone has been able to witness live on national TV & Donna confirming that Kim Piczio supplied money to pay Nay-nay & Amber's bond & held up Cobra's bond.  Sorry I dont buy just because Ron Jr is physically staying at his grandmother's that is the reason an emergency hearing was not filed, that does not remove all danger that has been claimed to be relevant.   As far as Misty goes, while I agree she is a hot mess and suspect that she may have not even been home or in any condition to care for children & should not have been trusted to care for young children, many parents leave their children in late teen-aged care all the time, every day for hours on end to even a weekend (not that I ever did or would) -- too many right on this forum probably have used a teenage babysitter on occasion - anything can happen in those instances within five minutes much less hours.   We have to keep in mind other cases such as Jessica Lunsford where her grandparents were right down the hall of a very small mobile home & her father was at nightshift work when she was abducted by a monster right from her bedroom window (I doubt that happened here, I agree, but we do not know for sure either way who took Haleigh).   As far as Cobra's involvement "nothing has Haqppened since Cobra jumped on this case but more stories and drama..........." the same can be said about Kim Piczio tenfold.   I must say, I totally understand that this is an emotional case but it is getting just a bit too tiring that any posts that may differ with pro Crystal support gets jumped on - no one was attacking Crystal here or taking a side,  in fact Crystal's best interest was discussed in my original post because I don't have blinders on while following this case closely & can look at things objectively.   It was an opinion about a snake attorney that should pack her bags & get out of this case before more harm is done & interferes further with the one goal everyone should be focused on and that is finding Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 27, 2009, 02:54:03 PM
William ‘COBRA’ Staubs announces intent to file BAR complaint against Florida Attorney Kim Picazio

http://writeintoaction.com/
All that stuff towards the end of the article makes it sound like the Satsuma creepiness is contagious  ::MonkeyEek::

no wonder KP showed up down there....she sounds like the rest of em...birds of a feather and all that ..
do you think that Crystal was having an affair with the 26 yr old guy? would explain why she was at the Haleigh bug place at 1:30 in the morning...with a "friend"....just sayin....my oh my..,how easily rumors and gossip can be started....think I just started one myself there....just provin a point....but it could be true.....

I called that....can't say what is fact or fiction out of that saga article but even if a portion of it is true Im not shocked.   Kim's involvement in making calls regarding HER giving money to someone to bail out Nay-nay & Amber inandofitself is very questionable conduct for an attorney representing someone else connected to these individuals, come on folks we know why she did & it does not help Crystal to have druggies speaking on her behalf in any capacity.  KP has presented herself & represented her client very unprofessionally & certainly unwisely just by her national TV appearances alone.   She has literally handed Ron Cummings an opportunity to file a civil lawsuit against her for slandering him with abuse allegations that she may never be able to prove but disseminated nationwide publicly maliciously.   With all the blatant allegations she has made with no hesitation, one has to wonder why she did not file for an emergency hearing for custody of Ron, Jr on behalf of her client, she is snowing the public.   She has to know that the general public would question why if her allegations are true & Crystal was perfectly suited to be rewarded parental custody of Ron Jr why she did not seek this hearing yet or why DFS has not removed Ron Jr from his present custodial residence to Crystal or foster care for further determination with cause.  Her over zealous actions toward greed in seeking fame & fortune thru legal counsel is more than obvious & with no surprise is going to jam her up.  All I do know is that it is rather odd that an attorney in good standing & representing a client should have reason to have to have an attorney...hmmm well there is one other snake in the grass that had to do so also - Jose Baez who has 3 bar complaints against him that have recently moved from review to the grievance arbitration level.     Crystal would be wise to fire KP & break all ties while obtaining proper legal counsel from an attorney that can provide proper advise & more realistic representation.  If Crystal hopes to gain custody she really needs to focus on getting healthy, providing a safe permanent home, prove financial stability & making sure she can be proven to take proper care of children full time while associating with people not caught up in drug abuse & criminal conduct.     KP is the perfect example that sometimes "class" is not determined by whether someone wears a suit or a pair of jeans, shame on her.

All of this craziness does nothing but divert attention away from finding little Haleigh. We all know this and it is frustrating.
I'm waiting for Mr. Springer to pop out from the mouth of one of the gators there at any time now to be quite honest.
Anyway,
Good advice for sure Cappuccino.
We must think along the same lines quite a bit.
I dunno but I am beginning to think that you REALY ARE in my head.
It's getting scary  ::MonkeyHaHa::
It's even getting to the point that I'm considering changing my name to mocha latte.
(I am soooo kidding)  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 02:56:06 PM
<snipped>bravo Capps...a few of us have been yammering on this since the whole sad saga began!
Kim is out for Kim and to get her mug on tv...I have said before, if she really had anything on Ron causing abuse to those kids, then she should have filed some sort of emergency through DCFS..and as we see, Crystal still does not have the kids, they have not been taken away from Ron ....speaks volumes to me...what exactly has Kim accomplished while being down there? besides chaos and fighting between the parents of a missing child? time for KP to get the heck outta dodge...jmo

Not being smart or anything but,  there are no KIDS.. now there is only a child, the other one came up missing from Ronalds home in the middle of the night while the adult that was suppose to watching them was Lord only knows where....Also, right now the child that is left is in the Great Grandmothers home, not alone with Ronald and is the main reason nothing has been done right now,,,,,,How do any of us know what Kim is doing, just because Cobra said it does not make it so.........if Cobra speaks the gospel  truth and we are gonna take his word as truth, then where is Haleigh, he said he would find her within the week, that was months ago, he also said NayNay and all the drug dealers he was hunting up, right there under his nose in Satsuma and Palatka, would break this case, well uhhh     NO it didnt happen,   nothing has Haqppened since Cobra jumped on this case but more stories and drama...........



For clarification purposes, plural is correct because there is no proof that Haleigh is no longer with us & custody would include her even in absentia until otherwise determined, pray not.   Secondly, Haleigh being  abducted from her home under whose care was NOT the issue being discussed in these two posts...and while I can attest personally that I'm not taking any individuals word as gospel, I speak to the facts which everyone has been able to witness live on national TV & Donna confirming that Kim Piczio supplied money to pay Nay-nay & Amber's bond & held up Cobra's bond.  Sorry I dont buy just because Ron Jr is physically staying at his grandmother's that is the reason an emergency hearing was not filed, that does not remove all danger that has been claimed to be relevant.   As far as Misty goes, while I agree she is a hot mess and suspect that she may have not even been home or in any condition to care for children & should not have been trusted to care for young children, many parents leave their children in late teen-aged care all the time, every day for hours on end to even a weekend (not that I ever did or would) -- too many right on this forum probably have used a teenage babysitter on occasion - anything can happen in those instances within five minutes much less hours.   We have to keep in mind other cases such as Jessica Lunsford where her grandparents were right down the hall of a very small mobile home & her father was at nightshift work when she was abducted by a monster right from her bedroom window (I doubt that happened here, I agree, but we do not know for sure either way who took Haleigh).   As far as Cobra's involvement "nothing has Haqppened since Cobra jumped on this case but more stories and drama..........." the same can be said about Kim Piczio tenfold.   I must say, I totally understand that this is an emotional case but it is getting just a bit too tiring that any posts that may differ with pro Crystal support gets jumped on - no one was attacking Crystal here or taking a side,  in fact Crystal's best interest was discussed in my original post because I don't have blinders on while following this case closely & can look at things objectively.   It was an opinion about a snake attorney that should pack her bags & get out of this case before more harm is done & interferes further with the one goal everyone should be focused on and that is finding Haleigh.

agreed Capps....good post....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 27, 2009, 02:56:40 PM
JMO, I used to come here every day to see if there is any news on Haleigh yet but after today and seeing all the sniping and back and forth I do believe I will not get my news from this thread  anymore.  Haleigh is GONE, her underage step-mother (Ha Ha) was last to be seen with her and the LE in that little screwed up town cannot/willnot do anything to bring this child home.  Ron is a bully who abuses his "girlfriends" and his children, Chrystal needs to grow up and become responsible and the remaining child needs to be removed FROM ALL OF THEM NOW.  Sides have been taken here and the snide comments back and forth is not getting anything accomplished for this child.  Go to the Natalee Holloway thread and read about corruption in Aruba and there is your answer to what has become of this case.  LE appears to me to be inept and cannot/will not solve this and bring this child home. JMO

Blue Moon ~  A long time member, however, a new name on the Haleigh thread.

I would just like to make a comment about your visits and obviously today not finding any new NEWS on the Haleigh case.

We have several, or I should say many posters on this forum of Haleigh's that put an awful lot of time and researching to try and come to some conclusions as to what happened or where Haleigh may be.

Myself and others are signed in several times a day and continue to follow along with other's information.  Should someone make a posting, it is automatically questioned should there not be a link or reference to verify said post.  I am sure that it is the same on the Natalie thread or any other's for that matter.

I must say that your comment ( that I highlighted in RED) is your opinion and find it rather offensive to the daily posters.

Maybe come and spend sometime on this forum and you will possibly get a glimpse of the extensive work that is being put into the research. You appear to have a few opinions of your own and we would like you to share your reasons with us.
 




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 02:59:38 PM
JMO, I used to come here every day to see if there is any news on Haleigh yet but after today and seeing all the sniping and back and forth I do believe I will not get my news from this thread  anymore.  Haleigh is GONE, her underage step-mother (Ha Ha) was last to be seen with her and the LE in that little screwed up town cannot/willnot do anything to bring this child home.  Ron is a bully who abuses his "girlfriends" and his children, Chrystal needs to grow up and become responsible and the remaining child needs to be removed FROM ALL OF THEM NOW.  Sides have been taken here and the snide comments back and forth is not getting anything accomplished for this child.  Go to the Natalee Holloway thread and read about corruption in Aruba and there is your answer to what has become of this case.  LE appears to me to be inept and cannot/will not solve this and bring this child home. JMO

Blue Moon ~  A long time member, however, a new name on the Haleigh thread.

I would just like to make a comment about your visits and obviously today not finding any new NEWS on the Haleigh case.

We have several, or I should say many posters on this forum of Haleigh's that put an awful lot of time and researching to try and come to some conclusions as to what happened or where Haleigh may be.

Myself and others are signed in several times a day and continue to follow along with other's information.  Should someone make a posting, it is automatically questioned should there not be a link or reference to verify said post.  I am sure that it is the same on the Natalie thread or any other's for that matter.

I must say that your comment ( that I highlighted in RED) is your opinion and find it rather offensive to the daily posters.

Maybe come and spend sometime on this forum and you will possibly get a glimpse of the extensive work that is being put into the research. You appear to have a few opinions of your own and we would like you to share your reasons with us.
 




gramma!! my thoughts exactly...I had composed a reply much like this one and decided against it...glad that I did cause you said it so much better...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Cappuccino on May 27, 2009, 03:00:18 PM
<snipped>bravo Capps...a few of us have been yammering on this since the whole sad saga began!
Kim is out for Kim and to get her mug on tv...I have said before, if she really had anything on Ron causing abuse to those kids, then she should have filed some sort of emergency through DCFS..and as we see, Crystal still does not have the kids, they have not been taken away from Ron ....speaks volumes to me...what exactly has Kim accomplished while being down there? besides chaos and fighting between the parents of a missing child? time for KP to get the heck outta dodge...jmo

Not being smart or anything but,  there are no KIDS.. now there is only a child, the other one came up missing from Ronalds home in the middle of the night while the adult that was suppose to watching them was Lord only knows where....Also, right now the child that is left is in the Great Grandmothers home, not alone with Ronald and is the main reason nothing has been done right now,,,,,,How do any of us know what Kim is doing, just because Cobra said it does not make it so.........if Cobra speaks the gospel  truth and we are gonna take his word as truth, then where is Haleigh, he said he would find her within the week, that was months ago, he also said NayNay and all the drug dealers he was hunting up, right there under his nose in Satsuma and Palatka, would break this case, well uhhh     NO it didnt happen,   nothing has Haqppened since Cobra jumped on this case but more stories and drama...........



HH.. I am just a tad confused here.  I was under the impression, that Cobra was the one who brought Kim in,  And Cobra was brought in by the Minister..  But, what I don't know, is Who brought Jeremiah Regan in?
Cobra didnt bring Kim in, Kim brought Kim in by wanting to help Crystal......I have no idea about Jeremiah, I was under the impression that he was contacted by someone local,   dont really know.........

how coincidental then is it that Cobra and Kim knew each other before and they both just showed up to help find this missing child out of all the missing kids?
Not coincidental...................Rev Grund knows Cobra and he knows Leonard Padia ans he contacted Cobra and Cobra was seen asking L.Padia how he could get involved in a missing childs case and undoubtly he told him, and here he is!!!!!

Not entirely true, Lenny does know Cobra & he introduced him to Rev Grund the day of Caylee's memorial.   There is footage of Cobra being at the memorial site on Suburban with Lenny, Rev Grund and others (check WFTV on Caylee's memorial date).   From there Rev Grund spoke to Cobra about a personal matter involving his family being attacked & harassed, falsely accused in Caylee's murder spearheaded by none other than Cindy.  Cobra has given interviews on this several times & Rev Grund has spoken to it on his myspace blogs.  In the midst of that conversation Rev Grund requesting that Cobra look into Haleigh's disappearance.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Cappuccino on May 27, 2009, 03:02:34 PM
Patricia, mocha latte you just provided a few sweet chuckles much appreciated  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 03:04:32 PM
Patricia, mocha latte you just provided a few sweet chuckles much appreciated  ::MonkeyHaHa::

white chocolate mocha for me!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 27, 2009, 03:04:55 PM
JMO, I used to come here every day to see if there is any news on Haleigh yet but after today and seeing all the sniping and back and forth I do believe I will not get my news from this thread anymore.  Haleigh is GONE, her underage step-mother (Ha Ha) was last to be seen with her and the LE in that little screwed up town cannot/willnot do anything to bring this child home.  Ron is a bully who abuses his "girlfriends" and his children, Chrystal needs to grow up and become responsible and the remaining child needs to be removed FROM ALL OF THEM NOW.  Sides have been taken here and the snide comments back and forth is not getting anything accomplished for this child.  Go to the Natalee Holloway thread and read about corruption in Aruba and there is your answer to what has become of this case.  LE appears to me to be inept and cannot/will not solve this and bring this child home. JMO
Blue Moon, I am with you on this, corruption, inept investigation, people that should go home because they are just causing more damage, and I believe Haleigh is gone also, I just don't see it any other way, God knows I have tried. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Ditto~I'm beginning to wonder if LE lays off the backs of the druggie's in lieu of kickbacks, heaven knows nobody gets any punishment in that town....
I am so disgusted with all of this and some other cases, I could just scream. I do hope that little Elijah is doing good  ::MonkeyAngel::
Me to No Rose. I hope and pray too that little Elijah is somewhere safe and is waiting for someone to rescue him. Poor baby. It seriously breaks my heart that his case was just a blip in the media. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 27, 2009, 03:05:45 PM
I am in No way a Crystal supporter, I am just Not a Ronald supporter or a Misty supporter, and facts are facts and in this case there are only so many facts to be heard......
 I would just like to know why it is being said that Kim needs to pack up and go home, she hasnt been on the Sky every day saying something and hanging out with Pickles and that bunch from BNN talking trash about everybody and keeping th little rumors and inuedos floating around....She is just Crystals attourney and is doing the same thing that any attourney would do, and all these stories about her wouldnt be out here if other people didnt keep throwing them out there......

  This entire case has gone to the dogs......................If everybody was more worried about Haleigh and where she was, they wouldnt have time to jump on every radio show that came on or do videos every time they made a move, they would be busy staying on the down low so that if someone really did want to contact them, they would know that the person could keep their mouth shut and not blab it to everybody that would listen........Haleigh come home!!!!!!  May God Bless You!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 27, 2009, 03:08:58 PM
Patricia, mocha latte you just provided a few sweet chuckles much appreciated  ::MonkeyHaHa::

See new SN  ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
 ::MonkeyDevil::

~Where is little Haleigh~???  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 27, 2009, 03:09:45 PM
<snipped>bravo Capps...a few of us have been yammering on this since the whole sad saga began!
Kim is out for Kim and to get her mug on tv...I have said before, if she really had anything on Ron causing abuse to those kids, then she should have filed some sort of emergency through DCFS..and as we see, Crystal still does not have the kids, they have not been taken away from Ron ....speaks volumes to me...what exactly has Kim accomplished while being down there? besides chaos and fighting between the parents of a missing child? time for KP to get the heck outta dodge...jmo

Not being smart or anything but,  there are no KIDS.. now there is only a child, the other one came up missing from Ronalds home in the middle of the night while the adult that was suppose to watching them was Lord only knows where....Also, right now the child that is left is in the Great Grandmothers home, not alone with Ronald and is the main reason nothing has been done right now,,,,,,How do any of us know what Kim is doing, just because Cobra said it does not make it so.........if Cobra speaks the gospel  truth and we are gonna take his word as truth, then where is Haleigh, he said he would find her within the week, that was months ago, he also said NayNay and all the drug dealers he was hunting up, right there under his nose in Satsuma and Palatka, would break this case, well uhhh     NO it didnt happen,   nothing has Haqppened since Cobra jumped on this case but more stories and drama...........



HH.. I am just a tad confused here.  I was under the impression, that Cobra was the one who brought Kim in,  And Cobra was brought in by the Minister..  But, what I don't know, is Who brought Jeremiah Regan in?
Cobra didnt bring Kim in, Kim brought Kim in by wanting to help Crystal......I have no idea about Jeremiah, I was under the impression that he was contacted by someone local,   dont really know.........

how coincidental then is it that Cobra and Kim knew each other before and they both just showed up to help find this missing child out of all the missing kids?
Not coincidental...................Rev Grund knows Cobra and he knows Leonard Padia ans he contacted Cobra and Cobra was seen asking L.Padia how he could get involved in a missing childs case and undoubtly he told him, and here he is!!!!!

Not entirely true, Lenny does know Cobra & he introduced him to Rev Grund the day of Caylee's memorial.   There is footage of Cobra being at the memorial site on Suburban with Lenny, Rev Grund and others (check WFTV on Caylee's memorial date).   From there Rev Grund spoke to Cobra about a personal matter involving his family being attacked & harassed, falsely accused in Caylee's murder spearheaded by none other than Cindy.  Cobra has given interviews on this several times & Rev Grund has spoken to it on his myspace blogs.  In the midst of that conversation Rev Grund requesting that Cobra look into Haleigh's disappearance.
True enough.......Cobra did ask Leanord about how he could become involved in a missing childs case!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Cappuccino on May 27, 2009, 03:11:12 PM
Hmmm....appearances on Geraldo, JVM, NBC, Nancy Grace come to mind...just saying

Frankly, I feel at this point all these individuals should take a backseat verbally to LE including the FBI & DFS doing their jobs.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mymonkey on May 27, 2009, 03:12:02 PM
I am in No way a Crystal supporter, I am just Not a Ronald supporter or a Misty supporter, and facts are facts and in this case there are only so many facts to be heard......
 I would just like to know why it is being said that Kim needs to pack up and go home, she hasnt been on the Sky every day saying something and hanging out with Pickles and that bunch from BNN talking trash about everybody and keeping th little rumors and inuedos floating around....She is just Crystals attourney and is doing the same thing that any attourney would do, and all these stories about her wouldnt be out here if other people didnt keep throwing them out there......

  This entire case has gone to the dogs......................If everybody was more worried about Haleigh and where she was, they wouldnt have time to jump on every radio show that came on or do videos every time they made a move, they would be busy staying on the down low so that if someone really did want to contact them, they would know that the person could keep their mouth shut and not blab it to everybody that would listen........Haleigh come home!!!!!!  May God Bless You!!

Is Kim in Satsuma now or she in her office just curious if she has set up office full time in Satsuma....I would think she has other cases as well ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Searching on May 27, 2009, 03:15:49 PM
I am in No way a Crystal supporter, I am just Not a Ronald supporter or a Misty supporter, and facts are facts and in this case there are only so many facts to be heard......
 I would just like to know why it is being said that Kim needs to pack up and go home, she hasnt been on the Sky every day saying something and hanging out with Pickles and that bunch from BNN talking trash about everybody and keeping th little rumors and inuedos floating around....She is just Crystals attourney and is doing the same thing that any attourney would do, and all these stories about her wouldnt be out here if other people didnt keep throwing them out there......

  This entire case has gone to the dogs......................If everybody was more worried about Haleigh and where she was, they wouldnt have time to jump on every radio show that came on or do videos every time they made a move, they would be busy staying on the down low so that if someone really did want to contact them, they would know that the person could keep their mouth shut and not blab it to everybody that would listen........Haleigh come home!!!!!!  May God Bless You!!

I was trying to get caught up now that I am back and able to. You are very much a Crystal supporter and have proven to be so by your continued attacks on anyone who says anything about her. If you are going to take a stand and stand to support someone as well as have the nerve to attack others with differing opinions of the person/s,then please have the nerve to admit you support them. Just sayin.

Capp , great to see your wonderful mind here.
Monkeys,great to see you all.
I have missed you.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Cappuccino on May 27, 2009, 03:15:59 PM
Patricia, mocha latte you just provided a few sweet chuckles much appreciated  ::MonkeyHaHa::

See new SN  ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
 ::MonkeyDevil::

~Where is little Haleigh~???  ::MonkeyAngel::

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Searching on May 27, 2009, 03:17:33 PM
Well, this was a short visit,way too much reading to catch up and now have my duties here at home to take care of, will hopefully see all tonight.

Big Monkey Hugs to All.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Cappuccino on May 27, 2009, 03:18:59 PM
I am in No way a Crystal supporter, I am just Not a Ronald supporter or a Misty supporter, and facts are facts and in this case there are only so many facts to be heard......
 I would just like to know why it is being said that Kim needs to pack up and go home, she hasnt been on the Sky every day saying something and hanging out with Pickles and that bunch from BNN talking trash about everybody and keeping th little rumors and inuedos floating around....She is just Crystals attourney and is doing the same thing that any attourney would do, and all these stories about her wouldnt be out here if other people didnt keep throwing them out there......

  This entire case has gone to the dogs......................If everybody was more worried about Haleigh and where she was, they wouldnt have time to jump on every radio show that came on or do videos every time they made a move, they would be busy staying on the down low so that if someone really did want to contact them, they would know that the person could keep their mouth shut and not blab it to everybody that would listen........Haleigh come home!!!!!!  May God Bless You!!

I was trying to get caught up now that I am back and able to. You are very much a Crystal supporter and have proven to be so by your continued attacks on anyone who says anything about her. If you are going to take a stand and stand to support someone as well as have the nerve to attack others with differing opinions of the person/s,then please have the nerve to admit you support them. Just sayin.

Capp , great to see your wonderful mind here.
Monkeys,great to see you all.
I have missed you.

Awws....fantabulious to see you too searching, you've been greatly missed!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 27, 2009, 03:19:39 PM
JMO, I used to come here every day to see if there is any news on Haleigh yet but after today and seeing all the sniping and back and forth I do believe I will not get my news from this thread anymore.  Haleigh is GONE, her underage step-mother (Ha Ha) was last to be seen with her and the LE in that little screwed up town cannot/willnot do anything to bring this child home.  Ron is a bully who abuses his "girlfriends" and his children, Chrystal needs to grow up and become responsible and the remaining child needs to be removed FROM ALL OF THEM NOW.  Sides have been taken here and the snide comments back and forth is not getting anything accomplished for this child.  Go to the Natalee Holloway thread and read about corruption in Aruba and there is your answer to what has become of this case.  LE appears to me to be inept and cannot/will not solve this and bring this child home. JMO
Blue Moon, I am with you on this, corruption, inept investigation, people that should go home because they are just causing more damage, and I believe Haleigh is gone also, I just don't see it any other way, God knows I have tried. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Ditto~I'm beginning to wonder if LE lays off the backs of the druggie's in lieu of kickbacks, heaven knows nobody gets any punishment in that town....
I am so disgusted with all of this and some other cases, I could just scream. I do hope that little Elijah is doing good  ::MonkeyAngel::
Me to No Rose. I hope and pray too that little Elijah is somewhere safe and is waiting for someone to rescue him. Poor baby. It seriously breaks my heart that his case was just a blip in the media. ::MonkeyNoNo::

LOL~Patricia (mocha latte) Elijah is my grandson who was born at 23 weeks gestation in March...........he is safe at Sacred Heart hospital in the hands of the best neonatologist anywhere, and he has the prayers of the monkeys, so he is in good hands.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 27, 2009, 03:20:26 PM
I am in No way a Crystal supporter, I am just Not a Ronald supporter or a Misty supporter, and facts are facts and in this case there are only so many facts to be heard......
 I would just like to know why it is being said that Kim needs to pack up and go home, she hasnt been on the Sky every day saying something and hanging out with Pickles and that bunch from BNN talking trash about everybody and keeping th little rumors and inuedos floating around....She is just Crystals attourney and is doing the same thing that any attourney would do, and all these stories about her wouldnt be out here if other people didnt keep throwing them out there......

  This entire case has gone to the dogs......................If everybody was more worried about Haleigh and where she was, they wouldnt have time to jump on every radio show that came on or do videos every time they made a move, they would be busy staying on the down low so that if someone really did want to contact them, they would know that the person could keep their mouth shut and not blab it to everybody that would listen........Haleigh come home!!!!!!  May God Bless You!!

HH I agree I am on no ones side but Haleigh's in all this mess. This case is getting more and more frustrating as days go by. It's a case of who do you believe from the start. All we are left with is trying to put together the facts step by step while at the same time consider potential possibilities as to what "could have happened". I have a theory but I am doing my absolute best to discount every little piece of it and I just haven't managed to do that yet. There are other theories that are possible also so now I am trying to discount those theories as well. The GGMa Sykes theory is the one I prefer and I'll say that straight up. I hope and pray it is the one that proves to be true.
In the meantime the only ones I even remotely care about in this case is the children. I admit also that I am supportive of LE, Cobra, TJ Hart, Art Harris and anyone else who is willing to tromp through in the muck there in gator territory to find little Haleigh because at the end of the day she is the one that is missing. Haleigh matters most right now. This innocent baby girl and her Brother deserve the chance to be able to grow up together in a safe and loving environment.
The adults in this case have failed these children plain and simple and none of them get a pass in my book.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 03:24:14 PM
I am in No way a Crystal supporter, I am just Not a Ronald supporter or a Misty supporter, and facts are facts and in this case there are only so many facts to be heard......
 I would just like to know why it is being said that Kim needs to pack up and go home, she hasnt been on the Sky every day saying something and hanging out with Pickles and that bunch from BNN talking trash about everybody and keeping th little rumors and inuedos floating around....She is just Crystals attourney and is doing the same thing that any attourney would do, and all these stories about her wouldnt be out here if other people didnt keep throwing them out there......

  This entire case has gone to the dogs......................If everybody was more worried about Haleigh and where she was, they wouldnt have time to jump on every radio show that came on or do videos every time they made a move, they would be busy staying on the down low so that if someone really did want to contact them, they would know that the person could keep their mouth shut and not blab it to everybody that would listen........Haleigh come home!!!!!!  May God Bless You!!

I was trying to get caught up now that I am back and able to. You are very much a Crystal supporter and have proven to be so by your continued attacks on anyone who says anything about her. If you are going to take a stand and stand to support someone as well as have the nerve to attack others with differing opinions of the person/s,then please have the nerve to admit you support them. Just sayin.

Capp , great to see your wonderful mind here.
Monkeys,great to see you all.
I have missed you.

Awws....fantabulious to see you too searching, you've been greatly missed!

Searching!!! my girl!!! glad to see you back!! you have been so missed!
now I will be back later...going to see dear grand daughters...all 3 of them!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 27, 2009, 03:24:56 PM
JMO, I used to come here every day to see if there is any news on Haleigh yet but after today and seeing all the sniping and back and forth I do believe I will not get my news from this thread anymore.  Haleigh is GONE, her underage step-mother (Ha Ha) was last to be seen with her and the LE in that little screwed up town cannot/willnot do anything to bring this child home.  Ron is a bully who abuses his "girlfriends" and his children, Chrystal needs to grow up and become responsible and the remaining child needs to be removed FROM ALL OF THEM NOW.  Sides have been taken here and the snide comments back and forth is not getting anything accomplished for this child.  Go to the Natalee Holloway thread and read about corruption in Aruba and there is your answer to what has become of this case.  LE appears to me to be inept and cannot/will not solve this and bring this child home. JMO
Blue Moon, I am with you on this, corruption, inept investigation, people that should go home because they are just causing more damage, and I believe Haleigh is gone also, I just don't see it any other way, God knows I have tried. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Ditto~I'm beginning to wonder if LE lays off the backs of the druggie's in lieu of kickbacks, heaven knows nobody gets any punishment in that town....
I am so disgusted with all of this and some other cases, I could just scream. I do hope that little Elijah is doing good  ::MonkeyAngel::
Me to No Rose. I hope and pray too that little Elijah is somewhere safe and is waiting for someone to rescue him. Poor baby. It seriously breaks my heart that his case was just a blip in the media. ::MonkeyNoNo::

LOL~Patricia (mocha latte) Elijah is my grandson who was born at 23 weeks gestation in March...........he is safe at Sacred Heart hospital in the hands of the best neonatologist anywhere, and he has the prayers of the monkeys, so he is in good hands.  ::MonkeyAngel::
(See you know he is on my mind too! How is little man doing? ((((((( HUGS ))))))) for y'all for everything you have been going through.)
 
I did mean Adji in that post though. Little Adji is still missing and I pray that he is safe somewhere, unharmed and waiting for someone to find him.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Cappuccino on May 27, 2009, 03:26:16 PM

The adults in this case have failed these children plain and simple and none of them get a pass in my book.

I will concur with this with every ounce of my being.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 03:27:49 PM

The adults in this case have failed these children plain and simple and none of them get a pass in my book.

I will concur with this with every ounce of my being.

me too!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 27, 2009, 03:28:50 PM
I am in No way a Crystal supporter, I am just Not a Ronald supporter or a Misty supporter, and facts are facts and in this case there are only so many facts to be heard......
 I would just like to know why it is being said that Kim needs to pack up and go home, she hasnt been on the Sky every day saying something and hanging out with Pickles and that bunch from BNN talking trash about everybody and keeping th little rumors and inuedos floating around....She is just Crystals attourney and is doing the same thing that any attourney would do, and all these stories about her wouldnt be out here if other people didnt keep throwing them out there......

  This entire case has gone to the dogs......................If everybody was more worried about Haleigh and where she was, they wouldnt have time to jump on every radio show that came on or do videos every time they made a move, they would be busy staying on the down low so that if someone really did want to contact them, they would know that the person could keep their mouth shut and not blab it to everybody that would listen........Haleigh come home!!!!!!  May God Bless You!!

I was trying to get caught up now that I am back and able to. You are very much a Crystal supporter and have proven to be so by your continued attacks on anyone who says anything about her. If you are going to take a stand and stand to support someone as well as have the nerve to attack others with differing opinions of the person/s,then please have the nerve to admit you support them. Just sayin.

Capp , great to see your wonderful mind here.
Monkeys,great to see you all.
I have missed you.
OK  well first of all, Iwas not attacking anybody, I was answering them just like they were answering me, its called a conversation........its hard to attack,  per say through a computor..........anyway....I know what I am......you however do not know me.......
   I will, refrain from posting here after this post, I am on my way to Satsuma. I am done loading up the car and am about to leave, I  orginally went to the Haleigh Bug Center for all the monkeys here, I came back and posted  pictures and stuff about what I saw and heard for everyone that knew I was going and wanted me to report back......I even signed several of the posters on the wall there,   from the Monkey.........Come home safe..................
   Its funny  to me that someone can ask me a question or make a statement and I can answer them and I get called out as attacking, but whatever...... 
   I will continue to ask questions and try to find out what I can about Haleigh......I will continue to wear my bracelets and my t-shirt with her picture on it where ever I go......

    The truth will come out one day, it will........I have been truthful in everything I have ever said on this case, I promise you that, if you knew me you would know that, I cant help what I saw or what I heard I just tell it like I see it or hear it!!!!
     Have a nice day Monkeys...........God Bless Haleigh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 27, 2009, 03:31:16 PM
<snipped>bravo Capps...a few of us have been yammering on this since the whole sad saga began!
Kim is out for Kim and to get her mug on tv...I have said before, if she really had anything on Ron causing abuse to those kids, then she should have filed some sort of emergency through DCFS..and as we see, Crystal still does not have the kids, they have not been taken away from Ron ....speaks volumes to me...what exactly has Kim accomplished while being down there? besides chaos and fighting between the parents of a missing child? time for KP to get the heck outta dodge...jmo

Not being smart or anything but,  there are no KIDS.. now there is only a child, the other one came up missing from Ronalds home in the middle of the night while the adult that was suppose to watching them was Lord only knows where....Also, right now the child that is left is in the Great Grandmothers home, not alone with Ronald and is the main reason nothing has been done right now,,,,,,How do any of us know what Kim is doing, just because Cobra said it does not make it so.........if Cobra speaks the gospel  truth and we are gonna take his word as truth, then where is Haleigh, he said he would find her within the week, that was months ago, he also said NayNay and all the drug dealers he was hunting up, right there under his nose in Satsuma and Palatka, would break this case, well uhhh     NO it didnt happen,   nothing has Haqppened since Cobra jumped on this case but more stories and drama...........



For clarification purposes, plural is correct because there is no proof that Haleigh is no longer with us & custody would include her even in absentia until otherwise determined, pray not.   Secondly, Haleigh being  abducted from her home under whose care was NOT the issue being discussed in these two posts...and while I can attest personally that I'm not taking any individuals word as gospel, I speak to the facts which everyone has been able to witness live on national TV & Donna confirming that Kim Piczio supplied money to pay Nay-nay & Amber's bond & held up Cobra's bond.  Sorry I dont buy just because Ron Jr is physically staying at his grandmother's that is the reason an emergency hearing was not filed, that does not remove all danger that has been claimed to be relevant.   As far as Misty goes, while I agree she is a hot mess and suspect that she may have not even been home or in any condition to care for children & should not have been trusted to care for young children, many parents leave their children in late teen-aged care all the time, every day for hours on end to even a weekend (not that I ever did or would) -- too many right on this forum probably have used a teenage babysitter on occasion - anything can happen in those instances within five minutes much less hours.   We have to keep in mind other cases such as Jessica Lunsford where her grandparents were right down the hall of a very small mobile home & her father was at nightshift work when she was abducted by a monster right from her bedroom window (I doubt that happened here, I agree, but we do not know for sure either way who took Haleigh).   As far as Cobra's involvement "nothing has Haqppened since Cobra jumped on this case but more stories and drama..........." the same can be said about Kim Piczio tenfold.   I must say, I totally understand that this is an emotional case but it is getting just a bit too tiring that any posts that may differ with pro Crystal support gets jumped on - no one was attacking Crystal here or taking a side,  in fact Crystal's best interest was discussed in my original post because I don't have blinders on while following this case closely & can look at things objectively.   It was an opinion about a snake attorney that should pack her bags & get out of this case before more harm is done & interferes further with the one goal everyone should be focused on and that is finding Haleigh.

Great post, Capp.

I just caught up on about 5 pages of reading about this mess.

I'd like to point out a post Heart made that did not appear to get any attention. It quotes Richard Grund saying, among other things:

1. "I asked Cobra to go up and speak to them to see if there was anything he could do."

2.  "Cobra reached out to a lawyer he knew in South Florida named Kim Picazio to see if she could help Crystal Sheffield.  He brought her into the case."

3.  "Cobra then contacted a journalist he knew named Art Harris (artharris.com) to see if Art wanted to report the story." ... "He was not at any time working for Kim Picazio as has been reported.  He 9Cobra)was not working for Crystal Sheffiield.  He was not working for Ronald Cummings even though Ronald tried to hire him; most likely to stop Cobra's investigation into Misty."

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:QjcZ4BTuXkQJ:blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm%3Ffuseaction%3Dblog.ListAll%26friendId%3D85212505+richard+grund+cobra+nancy+grace&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

I know this was posted weeks ago, but it seems there is still some confusion over these facts as stated by Mr. Grund.

I hope this helps sort a few things out.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 27, 2009, 03:32:34 PM
JMO, I used to come here every day to see if there is any news on Haleigh yet but after today and seeing all the sniping and back and forth I do believe I will not get my news from this thread anymore.  Haleigh is GONE, her underage step-mother (Ha Ha) was last to be seen with her and the LE in that little screwed up town cannot/willnot do anything to bring this child home.  Ron is a bully who abuses his "girlfriends" and his children, Chrystal needs to grow up and become responsible and the remaining child needs to be removed FROM ALL OF THEM NOW.  Sides have been taken here and the snide comments back and forth is not getting anything accomplished for this child.  Go to the Natalee Holloway thread and read about corruption in Aruba and there is your answer to what has become of this case.  LE appears to me to be inept and cannot/will not solve this and bring this child home. JMO
Blue Moon, I am with you on this, corruption, inept investigation, people that should go home because they are just causing more damage, and I believe Haleigh is gone also, I just don't see it any other way, God knows I have tried. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Ditto~I'm beginning to wonder if LE lays off the backs of the druggie's in lieu of kickbacks, heaven knows nobody gets any punishment in that town....
I am so disgusted with all of this and some other cases, I could just scream. I do hope that little Elijah is doing good  ::MonkeyAngel::
Me to No Rose. I hope and pray too that little Elijah is somewhere safe and is waiting for someone to rescue him. Poor baby. It seriously breaks my heart that his case was just a blip in the media. ::MonkeyNoNo::

LOL~Patricia (mocha latte) Elijah is my grandson who was born at 23 weeks gestation in March...........he is safe at Sacred Heart hospital in the hands of the best neonatologist anywhere, and he has the prayers of the monkeys, so he is in good hands.  ::MonkeyAngel::
(See you know he is on my mind too! How is little man doing? ((((((( HUGS ))))))) for y'all for everything you have been going through.)
 
I did mean Adji in that post though. Little Adji is still missing and I pray that he is safe somewhere, unharmed and waiting for someone to find him.

Patricia aka ML........he is doing great today!! Thanks for the Hugs, I think next time I'm in crisis mode I won't bite off as much as this last time, moving and buying a home, etc.......but it did help distract my worries for a bit!!!

I agree about Adji, he hasn't garnered near the attention that others have and frankly I'm p!ssed at Nancy disGrace.....she has had a show for almost one yr about Casey Anthony and FTLOG she is in jail and will spend the remainder of her life in prison (if she makes it that far), and NG has done such a huge disservice to all the other missing children out there that need awareness, all while focusing on the same BOMBSHELL for the past yr..............truly sad and not a true victim advocate IMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 27, 2009, 03:35:17 PM
Well, this was a short visit,way too much reading to catch up and now have my duties here at home to take care of, will hopefully see all tonight.

Big Monkey Hugs to All.

Welcome back, Searching!

You were missed. Glad to have you back with us!

~Brandi


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 27, 2009, 03:37:45 PM
I am in No way a Crystal supporter, I am just Not a Ronald supporter or a Misty supporter, and facts are facts and in this case there are only so many facts to be heard......
 I would just like to know why it is being said that Kim needs to pack up and go home, she hasnt been on the Sky every day saying something and hanging out with Pickles and that bunch from BNN talking trash about everybody and keeping th little rumors and inuedos floating around....She is just Crystals attourney and is doing the same thing that any attourney would do, and all these stories about her wouldnt be out here if other people didnt keep throwing them out there......

  This entire case has gone to the dogs......................If everybody was more worried about Haleigh and where she was, they wouldnt have time to jump on every radio show that came on or do videos every time they made a move, they would be busy staying on the down low so that if someone really did want to contact them, they would know that the person could keep their mouth shut and not blab it to everybody that would listen........Haleigh come home!!!!!!  May God Bless You!!

I was trying to get caught up now that I am back and able to. You are very much a Crystal supporter and have proven to be so by your continued attacks on anyone who says anything about her. If you are going to take a stand and stand to support someone as well as have the nerve to attack others with differing opinions of the person/s,then please have the nerve to admit you support them. Just sayin.

Capp , great to see your wonderful mind here.
Monkeys,great to see you all.
I have missed you.
OK  well first of all, Iwas not attacking anybody, I was answering them just like they were answering me, its called a conversation........its hard to attack,  per say through a computor..........anyway....I know what I am......you however do not know me.......
   I will, refrain from posting here after this post, I am on my way to Satsuma. I am done loading up the car and am about to leave, I  orginally went to the Haleigh Bug Center for all the monkeys here, I came back and posted  pictures and stuff about what I saw and heard for everyone that knew I was going and wanted me to report back......I even signed several of the posters on the wall there,   from the Monkey.........Come home safe..................
   Its funny  to me that someone can ask me a question or make a statement and I can answer them and I get called out as attacking, but whatever...... 
   I will continue to ask questions and try to find out what I can about Haleigh......I will continue to wear my bracelets and my t-shirt with her picture on it where ever I go......

    The truth will come out one day, it will........I have been truthful in everything I have ever said on this case, I promise you that, if you knew me you would know that, I cant help what I saw or what I heard I just tell it like I see it or hear it!!!!
     Have a nice day Monkeys...........God Bless Haleigh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HH Please don't refrain from posting here hun. Your input is as important as anyone elses. You have great thoughts and considerations also and look Haleigh is still missing and we have no proof as to what the truth is yet. If for some reason it is found that the people you support had anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance I wouldn't think for one second to cast blame on you for caring and sticking to your guns on what you believed. That goes for anyone here really.
I appreciate what your input even if I ever disagreed with you is what I am trying to say.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 27, 2009, 03:40:22 PM
JMO, I used to come here every day to see if there is any news on Haleigh yet but after today and seeing all the sniping and back and forth I do believe I will not get my news from this thread anymore.  Haleigh is GONE, her underage step-mother (Ha Ha) was last to be seen with her and the LE in that little screwed up town cannot/willnot do anything to bring this child home.  Ron is a bully who abuses his "girlfriends" and his children, Chrystal needs to grow up and become responsible and the remaining child needs to be removed FROM ALL OF THEM NOW.  Sides have been taken here and the snide comments back and forth is not getting anything accomplished for this child.  Go to the Natalee Holloway thread and read about corruption in Aruba and there is your answer to what has become of this case.  LE appears to me to be inept and cannot/will not solve this and bring this child home. JMO
Blue Moon, I am with you on this, corruption, inept investigation, people that should go home because they are just causing more damage, and I believe Haleigh is gone also, I just don't see it any other way, God knows I have tried. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Ditto~I'm beginning to wonder if LE lays off the backs of the druggie's in lieu of kickbacks, heaven knows nobody gets any punishment in that town....
I am so disgusted with all of this and some other cases, I could just scream. I do hope that little Elijah is doing good  ::MonkeyAngel::
Me to No Rose. I hope and pray too that little Elijah is somewhere safe and is waiting for someone to rescue him. Poor baby. It seriously breaks my heart that his case was just a blip in the media. ::MonkeyNoNo::

LOL~Patricia (mocha latte) Elijah is my grandson who was born at 23 weeks gestation in March...........he is safe at Sacred Heart hospital in the hands of the best neonatologist anywhere, and he has the prayers of the monkeys, so he is in good hands.  ::MonkeyAngel::
(See you know he is on my mind too! How is little man doing? ((((((( HUGS ))))))) for y'all for everything you have been going through.)
 
I did mean Adji in that post though. Little Adji is still missing and I pray that he is safe somewhere, unharmed and waiting for someone to find him.

Patricia aka ML........he is doing great today!! Thanks for the Hugs, I think next time I'm in crisis mode I won't bite off as much as this last time, moving and buying a home, etc.......but it did help distract my worries for a bit!!!

I agree about Adji, he hasn't garnered near the attention that others have and frankly I'm p!ssed at Nancy disGrace.....she has had a show for almost one yr about Casey Anthony and FTLOG she is in jail and will spend the remainder of her life in prison (if she makes it that far), and NG has done such a huge disservice to all the other missing children out there that need awareness, all while focusing on the same BOMBSHELL for the past yr..............truly sad and not a true victim advocate IMO.
I quit watching NG for the same exact reason. I'm to the opinion that NG is just a run of the mill grandstander at this point. No love for NG anymore which is sad because in the beginning I was a huge fan.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 27, 2009, 03:51:28 PM
New article.
Haleigh Cummings – Cost Concerns In Putnam County

http://www.bloggernews.net/121030#respond


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 27, 2009, 03:53:51 PM
From the article,

Simon Barrett:

"I know that someone out there has information, and I will make a deal, contact one of us. If you are scared of the repercussions, go to an internet cafe, set up an anonymous email account, and talk to us."

"I for one am not after retribution, I am for resolution."


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 27, 2009, 03:54:03 PM
I am in No way a Crystal supporter, I am just Not a Ronald supporter or a Misty supporter, and facts are facts and in this case there are only so many facts to be heard......
 I would just like to know why it is being said that Kim needs to pack up and go home, she hasnt been on the Sky every day saying something and hanging out with Pickles and that bunch from BNN talking trash about everybody and keeping th little rumors and inuedos floating around....She is just Crystals attourney and is doing the same thing that any attourney would do, and all these stories about her wouldnt be out here if other people didnt keep throwing them out there......

  This entire case has gone to the dogs......................If everybody was more worried about Haleigh and where she was, they wouldnt have time to jump on every radio show that came on or do videos every time they made a move, they would be busy staying on the down low so that if someone really did want to contact them, they would know that the person could keep their mouth shut and not blab it to everybody that would listen........Haleigh come home!!!!!!  May God Bless You!!

I was trying to get caught up now that I am back and able to. You are very much a Crystal supporter and have proven to be so by your continued attacks on anyone who says anything about her. If you are going to take a stand and stand to support someone as well as have the nerve to attack others with differing opinions of the person/s,then please have the nerve to admit you support them. Just sayin.

Capp , great to see your wonderful mind here.
Monkeys,great to see you all.
I have missed you.
OK  well first of all, Iwas not attacking anybody, I was answering them just like they were answering me, its called a conversation........its hard to attack,  per say through a computor..........anyway....I know what I am......you however do not know me.......
   I will, refrain from posting here after this post, I am on my way to Satsuma. I am done loading up the car and am about to leave, I  orginally went to the Haleigh Bug Center for all the monkeys here, I came back and posted  pictures and stuff about what I saw and heard for everyone that knew I was going and wanted me to report back......I even signed several of the posters on the wall there,   from the Monkey.........Come home safe..................
   Its funny  to me that someone can ask me a question or make a statement and I can answer them and I get called out as attacking, but whatever...... 
   I will continue to ask questions and try to find out what I can about Haleigh......I will continue to wear my bracelets and my t-shirt with her picture on it where ever I go......

    The truth will come out one day, it will........I have been truthful in everything I have ever said on this case, I promise you that, if you knew me you would know that, I cant help what I saw or what I heard I just tell it like I see it or hear it!!!!
     Have a nice day Monkeys...........God Bless Haleigh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HH~Don't you dare girl..............I enjoy your post, and insight and I HAVE been attacked for supporting Crystal (which, yes I do!!!!!!!!) by some here, but don't let it get to you, I just blow it off and keep moving because you and I know we are all after the same goal and that is finding out what happened to Haleigh, and who is responsible, then seeking justice. I remember some attacking Crystal straight out about her answer to whether of not she passed a poly.....she stated "that she was told it had to be sent to Washington "and someone came on flat out calling her a liar, and then voila the truth was revealed that the Ploygraphs WERE indeed sent to quantico, and this poster disappeared for quite some time. So, come back and let's keep on working on it. PS you have nanners, and let me know how Crystal likes the little goodie bag I sent.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 03:54:29 PM
<snipped>bravo Capps...a few of us have been yammering on this since the whole sad saga began!
Kim is out for Kim and to get her mug on tv...I have said before, if she really had anything on Ron causing abuse to those kids, then she should have filed some sort of emergency through DCFS..and as we see, Crystal still does not have the kids, they have not been taken away from Ron ....speaks volumes to me...what exactly has Kim accomplished while being down there? besides chaos and fighting between the parents of a missing child? time for KP to get the heck outta dodge...jmo

Not being smart or anything but,  there are no KIDS.. now there is only a child, the other one came up missing from Ronalds home in the middle of the night while the adult that was suppose to watching them was Lord only knows where....Also, right now the child that is left is in the Great Grandmothers home, not alone with Ronald and is the main reason nothing has been done right now,,,,,,How do any of us know what Kim is doing, just because Cobra said it does not make it so.........if Cobra speaks the gospel  truth and we are gonna take his word as truth, then where is Haleigh, he said he would find her within the week, that was months ago, he also said NayNay and all the drug dealers he was hunting up, right there under his nose in Satsuma and Palatka, would break this case, well uhhh     NO it didnt happen,   nothing has Haqppened since Cobra jumped on this case but more stories and drama...........



For clarification purposes, plural is correct because there is no proof that Haleigh is no longer with us & custody would include her even in absentia until otherwise determined, pray not.   Secondly, Haleigh being  abducted from her home under whose care was NOT the issue being discussed in these two posts...and while I can attest personally that I'm not taking any individuals word as gospel, I speak to the facts which everyone has been able to witness live on national TV & Donna confirming that Kim Piczio supplied money to pay Nay-nay & Amber's bond & held up Cobra's bond.  Sorry I dont buy just because Ron Jr is physically staying at his grandmother's that is the reason an emergency hearing was not filed, that does not remove all danger that has been claimed to be relevant.   As far as Misty goes, while I agree she is a hot mess and suspect that she may have not even been home or in any condition to care for children & should not have been trusted to care for young children, many parents leave their children in late teen-aged care all the time, every day for hours on end to even a weekend (not that I ever did or would) -- too many right on this forum probably have used a teenage babysitter on occasion - anything can happen in those instances within five minutes much less hours.   We have to keep in mind other cases such as Jessica Lunsford where her grandparents were right down the hall of a very small mobile home & her father was at nightshift work when she was abducted by a monster right from her bedroom window (I doubt that happened here, I agree, but we do not know for sure either way who took Haleigh).   As far as Cobra's involvement "nothing has Haqppened since Cobra jumped on this case but more stories and drama..........." the same can be said about Kim Piczio tenfold.   I must say, I totally understand that this is an emotional case but it is getting just a bit too tiring that any posts that may differ with pro Crystal support gets jumped on - no one was attacking Crystal here or taking a side,  in fact Crystal's best interest was discussed in my original post because I don't have blinders on while following this case closely & can look at things objectively.   It was an opinion about a snake attorney that should pack her bags & get out of this case before more harm is done & interferes further with the one goal everyone should be focused on and that is finding Haleigh.

Great post, Capp.

I just caught up on about 5 pages of reading about this mess.

I'd like to point out a post Heart made that did not appear to get any attention. It quotes Richard Grund saying, among other things:

1. "I asked Cobra to go up and speak to them to see if there was anything he could do."

2.  "Cobra reached out to a lawyer he knew in South Florida named Kim Picazio to see if she could help Crystal Sheffield.  He brought her into the case."

3.  "Cobra then contacted a journalist he knew named Art Harris (artharris.com) to see if Art wanted to report the story." ... "He was not at any time working for Kim Picazio as has been reported.  He 9Cobra)was not working for Crystal Sheffiield.  He was not working for Ronald Cummings even though Ronald tried to hire him; most likely to stop Cobra's investigation into Misty."

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:QjcZ4BTuXkQJ:blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm%3Ffuseaction%3Dblog.ListAll%26friendId%3D85212505+richard+grund+cobra+nancy+grace&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

I know this was posted weeks ago, but it seems there is still some confusion over these facts as stated by Mr. Grund.

I hope this helps sort a few things out.

Brandi, thank you for posting this.. good clarification.. And was as I though.. thank you again.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 27, 2009, 03:56:51 PM
I know how I feel about every person in this case, and believe me if I let loose, I would not be welcomed back to this forum. Nor am I going to get in the middle of the heated debate of who is on who's side. All I know and have observed for many, many months is that HH has been very helpful in the Caylee and Haleigh case. And who is the one here, getting physically involved with this case, going to Satsuma, taking pictures, giving us info, we wouldn't have that if HH didn't go there and relay what is happening. Now she is going again, and I wish you a safe trip, and please come back and post, I know I'm looking forward to what you have observed. ::MonkeyAngel::  Take care


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 27, 2009, 04:02:00 PM
I know how I feel about every person in this case, and believe me if I let loose, I would not be welcomed back to this forum. Nor am I going to get in the middle of the heated debate of who is on who's side. All I know and have observed for many, many months is that HH has been very helpful in the Caylee and Haleigh case. And who is the one here, getting physically involved with this case, going to Satsuma, taking pictures, giving us info, we wouldn't have that if HH didn't go there and relay what is happening. Now she is going again, and I wish you a safe trip, and please come back and post, I know I'm looking forward to what you have observed. ::MonkeyAngel::  Take care

I feel the same way Rosie.............also about letting loose and being banned for telling how I really feel. HH has gone out of her way more than once to get info, photos etc and the last time she was there she was there for 1/2 day minimum, and scared as h#ll at one point when she called me, now I too am looking forward to her trip and am going to call her and encourage her to come back and continue with those of us who look forward to her news.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 27, 2009, 04:02:31 PM


Man wanted for allegedly raping 9-year-old girl 
 
 
 
  http://www.sunnewspapers.net/
   
 
 Charlotte County Sheriff’s Major Crimes detectives issued a BOLO  - Be On the Lookout - for a man wanted in connection with a sexual battery at gunpoint on a 9-year-old girl Tuesday afternoon in Englewood.

According to MCU detectives, the suspect is white male Kevin Carroll Bordwell, 43, with last known address on Anita Avenue., in Englewood.

An arrest warrant has been obtained on charges of captial sexual battery, burglary with battery, and armed burglary. Detectives said the suspect is known to the victim. He should be considered armed and dangerous, according to Sheriff's spokesman Bob Carpenter.

Bordwell is described to be 6-foot, 3-inches tall, 180 pounds, and thin dark brown hair with some gray. He is possibly driving a 2002 red Mercury Marquis 4 door with Florida license EN85Z, according to Carpenter. Bordwell was last seen wearing a blue checkered button-down shirt with jean shorts, brown belt, and brown slip-on shoes.

Any information on the current location of Bordwell should be provided the Charlotte County Sheriff’s Office at 941-639-2101, or 941-637-TIPS (8477).
 
The other offender I posted about the other day, still remaines jailed.  He is a summer resident of the local area, from Port Charlotte, Fl.
 
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 27, 2009, 04:04:22 PM
This link may have already been posted.

http://johnhgohdecommentator.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/was-crystal-sheffield-lying-all-along/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 04:15:06 PM
This link may have already been posted.

http://johnhgohdecommentator.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/was-crystal-sheffield-lying-all-along/


Well,  I guess that may well have needed to have been said..  Maybe we should give him an award..  maybe it is time to put the divisions aside and put Finding Haleigh as the Topic of the day... 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 27, 2009, 04:20:21 PM
I know how I feel about every person in this case, and believe me if I let loose, I would not be welcomed back to this forum. Nor am I going to get in the middle of the heated debate of who is on who's side. All I know and have observed for many, many months is that HH has been very helpful in the Caylee and Haleigh case. And who is the one here, getting physically involved with this case, going to Satsuma, taking pictures, giving us info, we wouldn't have that if HH didn't go there and relay what is happening. Now she is going again, and I wish you a safe trip, and please come back and post, I know I'm looking forward to what you have observed. ::MonkeyAngel::  Take care

I feel the same way Rosie.............also about letting loose and being banned for telling how I really feel. HH has gone out of her way more than once to get info, photos etc and the last time she was there she was there for 1/2 day minimum, and scared as h#ll at one point when she called me, now I too am looking forward to her trip and am going to call her and encourage her to come back and continue with those of us who look forward to her news.
Thank-you, she has always been kind to me, in both Caylee and Haleigh forum, and I hope she does come back with a report from Satsuma  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 27, 2009, 04:21:16 PM
Well, this was a short visit,way too much reading to catch up and now have my duties here at home to take care of, will hopefully see all tonight.

Big Monkey Hugs to All.

Capp , great to see your wonderful mind here.
Monkeys,great to see you all.
I have missed you.
 
 So good to see you back, Searching.

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 27, 2009, 04:23:10 PM
This link may have already been posted.

http://johnhgohdecommentator.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/was-crystal-sheffield-lying-all-along/

My thoughts on this is that somehow Crystal could possibly have gotten wind of the fact that Misty was out with WBG the prior weekend and she could very well have coached Jr. to say the that he had seen a man wearing black with sqeaky shoes and the bouncing on the couch thing because she thought it was a possible lead but the thing that strikes me as odd is the fact that she went to the media with this.
I would like to know though... Did she take this information to LE first or was this revealed to the media first?
And if she did get wind of Misty and WBG I am curious to know who told her about it?
(I'll just sit here scratching my head since I know I probably won't get an answer.)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 27, 2009, 04:24:59 PM
I know how I feel about every person in this case, and believe me if I let loose, I would not be welcomed back to this forum. Nor am I going to get in the middle of the heated debate of who is on who's side. All I know and have observed for many, many months is that HH has been very helpful in the Caylee and Haleigh case. And who is the one here, getting physically involved with this case, going to Satsuma, taking pictures, giving us info, we wouldn't have that if HH didn't go there and relay what is happening. Now she is going again, and I wish you a safe trip, and please come back and post, I know I'm looking forward to what you have observed. ::MonkeyAngel::  Take care

I feel the same way Rosie.............also about letting loose and being banned for telling how I really feel. HH has gone out of her way more than once to get info, photos etc and the last time she was there she was there for 1/2 day minimum, and scared as h#ll at one point when she called me, now I too am looking forward to her trip and am going to call her and encourage her to come back and continue with those of us who look forward to her news.
Thank-you, she has always been kind to me, in both Caylee and Haleigh forum, and I hope she does come back with a report from Satsuma  ::MonkeyAngel::

Me three.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 27, 2009, 04:26:50 PM
This link may have already been posted.

http://johnhgohdecommentator.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/was-crystal-sheffield-lying-all-along/


Well,  I guess that may well have needed to have been said..  Maybe we should give him an award..  maybe it is time to put the divisions aside and put Finding Haleigh as the Topic of the day... 

Hiya Mlee. I am 100% on board with that.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 04:30:18 PM
This link may have already been posted.

http://johnhgohdecommentator.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/was-crystal-sheffield-lying-all-along/

My thoughts on this is that somehow Crystal could possibly have gotten wind of the fact that Misty was out with WBG the prior weekend and she could very well have coached Jr. to say the that he had seen a man wearing black with sqeaky shoes and the bouncing on the couch thing because she thought it was a possible lead but the thing that strikes me as odd is the fact that she went to the media with this.
I would like to know though... Did she take this information to LE first or was this revealed to the media first?
And if she did get wind of Misty and WBG I am curious to know who told her about it?
(I'll just sit here scratching my head since I know I probably won't get an answer.)

How about a phone call from Amber... who would know everything that was going on.. And who was Amber very upset with, Misty!
There is a poster over at Art's we have discussed many times.. Act crazy, act's like a very uneducated person, bad grammer, that suddently is as articulate as a very educated person...  But, had made reference to Amber being with Crystal in her Tent after Haleigh was discovered missing.  A lie?,  A Rumor? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 27, 2009, 04:41:48 PM
This link may have already been posted.

http://johnhgohdecommentator.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/was-crystal-sheffield-lying-all-along/

My thoughts on this is that somehow Crystal could possibly have gotten wind of the fact that Misty was out with WBG the prior weekend and she could very well have coached Jr. to say the that he had seen a man wearing black with sqeaky shoes and the bouncing on the couch thing because she thought it was a possible lead but the thing that strikes me as odd is the fact that she went to the media with this.
I would like to know though... Did she take this information to LE first or was this revealed to the media first?
And if she did get wind of Misty and WBG I am curious to know who told her about it?
(I'll just sit here scratching my head since I know I probably won't get an answer.)

How about a phone call from Amber... who would know everything that was going on.. And who was Amber very upset with, Misty!
There is a poster over at Art's we have discussed many times.. Act crazy, act's like a very uneducated person, bad grammer, that suddently is as articulate as a very educated person...  But, had made reference to Amber being with Crystal in her Tent after Haleigh was discovered missing.  A lie?,  A Rumor? 
Yep. We've discussed that poster before. Quite a Jewel though isn't she? Am wondering if there is anyway that LE, AH or Cobra could possibly tie that up?
First I've heard of Amber being in Crystal's tent though. Not sure on that either.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 27, 2009, 04:42:44 PM
We each see articles, posts thru our own eyes.  We each read between the lines of the news articles, hoping to find something this is not being said.

We all have views on each side.  That does not make us sole supporters of either side.  One day, I can see all of the clues, infomation leading to Ron & Misty.  Then when someone posts other information concerning the Sheffield side, I can see their point as well. 

I and neither do any of you...KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HALEIGH.  We are all here for the same reason to research information and try to come with a theory or info that can bring Haleigh home.

Each has contributed in their own way.  All of the posters here need a round of applause, as everyone has worked very hard to come to a conclusion.  Our hands are tied .....  we are unable to access some information that is not available to us.  Whether LE has their grips on the case, is another thing we do not know.

Even though we see one side or the other, we are still the MONKEYS and must work together to keep this forum open. 





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 27, 2009, 04:44:34 PM
I wonder why LE hasn't release the evidence that they have collected in the home.
They release the van . Do they have to arrest someone  or ones  before they release any findings that they have collected... So far no word on the door they took and the piece of wall or anything else... ::MonkeyTongue::

They may have something of interest, but until they can piece this puzzle together and connect the dots with the evidence, if any was found, guess cannot tip off the abductor, if any.

If the theory of Gr Sykes turned out to be true, well they have Squires right close to them as that is where Jr. was going daily. 

True.. Are their any Squires in Texas or Tennessee ? ::MonkeyTongue::

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Glenda Sykes Miller, age 70, Texas. peoplefinders.com line 27, look up under Glenda Miller, line 27

Myles Sykes obit has listed a SISTER listed as Glenda Miller, that is what I found on line 27, a Glenda "Sykes' Miller.

Awesome work !......does it show an address??? ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 27, 2009, 04:51:37 PM
We each see articles, posts thru our own eyes.  We each read between the lines of the news articles, hoping to find something this is not being said.

We all have views on each side.  That does not make us sole supporters of either side.  One day, I can see all of the clues, infomation leading to Ron & Misty.  Then when someone posts other information concerning the Sheffield side, I can see their point as well. 

I and neither do any of you...KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HALEIGH.  We are all here for the same reason to research information and try to come with a theory or info that can bring Haleigh home.

Each has contributed in their own way.  All of the posters here need a round of applause, as everyone has worked very hard to come to a conclusion.  Our hands are tied .....  we are unable to access some information that is not available to us.  Whether LE has their grips on the case, is another thing we do not know.

Even though we see one side or the other, we are still the MONKEYS and must work together to keep this forum open. 




TY Grams. You have a beautiful way with words. It is what it is and I too applaud all the Monkeys for all the hard work and effort put into this case.
~THANK YOU ALL~  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 27, 2009, 04:57:13 PM
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Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 27, 2009, 04:59:23 PM
 BREAK TIME -  TIME FOR THE MONKEY DANCE

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 27, 2009, 04:59:24 PM
I wonder why LE hasn't release the evidence that they have collected in the home.
They release the van . Do they have to arrest someone  or ones  before they release any findings that they have collected... So far no word on the door they took and the piece of wall or anything else... ::MonkeyTongue::

They may have something of interest, but until they can piece this puzzle together and connect the dots with the evidence, if any was found, guess cannot tip off the abductor, if any.

If the theory of Gr Sykes turned out to be true, well they have Squires right close to them as that is where Jr. was going daily. 

True.. Are their any Squires in Texas or Tennessee ? ::MonkeyTongue::

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Glenda Sykes Miller, age 70, Texas. peoplefinders.com line 27, look up under Glenda Miller, line 27

Myles Sykes obit has listed a SISTER listed as Glenda Miller, that is what I found on line 27, a Glenda "Sykes' Miller.

Awesome work !......does it show an address??? ::MonkeyDance::

Try GLENDA SYKES MILLER Clarksville TN


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 05:09:45 PM
BREAK TIME -  TIME FOR THE MONKEY DANCE

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Well, I do believe your little dancing crew deserves some Bananas..  I decided, I better send enough for all the monkeys..
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 27, 2009, 05:13:14 PM
I wonder why LE hasn't release the evidence that they have collected in the home.
They release the van . Do they have to arrest someone  or ones  before they release any findings that they have collected... So far no word on the door they took and the piece of wall or anything else... ::MonkeyTongue::

They may have something of interest, but until they can piece this puzzle together and connect the dots with the evidence, if any was found, guess cannot tip off the abductor, if any.

If the theory of Gr Sykes turned out to be true, well they have Squires right close to them as that is where Jr. was going daily. 

True.. Are their any Squires in Texas or Tennessee ? ::MonkeyTongue::

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Glenda Sykes Miller, age 70, Texas. peoplefinders.com line 27, look up under Glenda Miller, line 27

Myles Sykes obit has listed a SISTER listed as Glenda Miller, that is what I found on line 27, a Glenda "Sykes' Miller.

Awesome work !......does it show an address??? ::MonkeyDance::

Try GLENDA SYKES MILLER Clarksville TN



okay...thank you....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 27, 2009, 05:21:31 PM
Tried the people search for that city,state.  Nothing listed even for a ...MILLER.  Any other clues??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 05:23:10 PM
<snipped>bravo Capps...a few of us have been yammering on this since the whole sad saga began!
Kim is out for Kim and to get her mug on tv...I have said before, if she really had anything on Ron causing abuse to those kids, then she should have filed some sort of emergency through DCFS..and as we see, Crystal still does not have the kids, they have not been taken away from Ron ....speaks volumes to me...what exactly has Kim accomplished while being down there? besides chaos and fighting between the parents of a missing child? time for KP to get the heck outta dodge...jmo

Not being smart or anything but,  there are no KIDS.. now there is only a child, the other one came up missing from Ronalds home in the middle of the night while the adult that was suppose to watching them was Lord only knows where....Also, right now the child that is left is in the Great Grandmothers home, not alone with Ronald and is the main reason nothing has been done right now,,,,,,How do any of us know what Kim is doing, just because Cobra said it does not make it so.........if Cobra speaks the gospel  truth and we are gonna take his word as truth, then where is Haleigh, he said he would find her within the week, that was months ago, he also said NayNay and all the drug dealers he was hunting up, right there under his nose in Satsuma and Palatka, would break this case, well uhhh     NO it didnt happen,   nothing has Haqppened since Cobra jumped on this case but more stories and drama...........



For clarification purposes, plural is correct because there is no proof that Haleigh is no longer with us & custody would include her even in absentia until otherwise determined, pray not.   Secondly, Haleigh being  abducted from her home under whose care was NOT the issue being discussed in these two posts...and while I can attest personally that I'm not taking any individuals word as gospel, I speak to the facts which everyone has been able to witness live on national TV & Donna confirming that Kim Piczio supplied money to pay Nay-nay & Amber's bond & held up Cobra's bond.  Sorry I dont buy just because Ron Jr is physically staying at his grandmother's that is the reason an emergency hearing was not filed, that does not remove all danger that has been claimed to be relevant.   As far as Misty goes, while I agree she is a hot mess and suspect that she may have not even been home or in any condition to care for children & should not have been trusted to care for young children, many parents leave their children in late teen-aged care all the time, every day for hours on end to even a weekend (not that I ever did or would) -- too many right on this forum probably have used a teenage babysitter on occasion - anything can happen in those instances within five minutes much less hours.   We have to keep in mind other cases such as Jessica Lunsford where her grandparents were right down the hall of a very small mobile home & her father was at nightshift work when she was abducted by a monster right from her bedroom window (I doubt that happened here, I agree, but we do not know for sure either way who took Haleigh).   As far as Cobra's involvement "nothing has Haqppened since Cobra jumped on this case but more stories and drama..........." the same can be said about Kim Piczio tenfold.   I must say, I totally understand that this is an emotional case but it is getting just a bit too tiring that any posts that may differ with pro Crystal support gets jumped on - no one was attacking Crystal here or taking a side,  in fact Crystal's best interest was discussed in my original post because I don't have blinders on while following this case closely & can look at things objectively.   It was an opinion about a snake attorney that should pack her bags & get out of this case before more harm is done & interferes further with the one goal everyone should be focused on and that is finding Haleigh.

Great post, Capp.

I just caught up on about 5 pages of reading about this mess.

I'd like to point out a post Heart made that did not appear to get any attention. It quotes Richard Grund saying, among other things:

1. "I asked Cobra to go up and speak to them to see if there was anything he could do."

2.  "Cobra reached out to a lawyer he knew in South Florida named Kim Picazio to see if she could help Crystal Sheffield.  He brought her into the case."

3.  "Cobra then contacted a journalist he knew named Art Harris (artharris.com) to see if Art wanted to report the story." ... "He was not at any time working for Kim Picazio as has been reported.  He 9Cobra)was not working for Crystal Sheffiield.  He was not working for Ronald Cummings even though Ronald tried to hire him; most likely to stop Cobra's investigation into Misty."

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:QjcZ4BTuXkQJ:blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm%3Ffuseaction%3Dblog.ListAll%26friendId%3D85212505+richard+grund+cobra+nancy+grace&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

I know this was posted weeks ago, but it seems there is still some confusion over these facts as stated by Mr. Grund.

I hope this helps sort a few things out.

Thank you Brandi!  I got distracted, had to  do my daily reports and send them out.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 05:24:59 PM
Searching welcome back.  Yes you were missed greatly!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 05:35:06 PM
There was one interesting aside about the deficit facing Putnam County, and that is the cost of funding the Haleigh Cummings case. Often people do not realize how much it costs to fund an investigation that lasts for months on end. The Commissioners ‘approved the transfer of $164,729 to the sheriff’s office budget from several grants, including $35,000 from the state to help defray costs associated with the search for Haleigh Cummings.’

There have been plenty of leads in the case, but so far all have seemed to be dead ends. Even the press has mostly dropped interest in Haleigh Cummings. There are a few of us though that are committed to following this to conclusion, and I would like to salute Art Harris and TJ Hart for there continued efforts. If it were not for these two people this case would be just a dusty file in a long forgotten file cabinet.

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 05:38:52 PM
CHARLES  EDWARD  CORING
Palatka ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/27/2009 5:12:24 PM  - Booking#: 08-05185
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 1/1/1984 -  RACE: B  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
782.04-1a2   HOMICIDE-WILLFUL KILL MURDER WHILE ENGAGED IN CERTAIN FELONY OFFENSE   F   C    $0.00    
810.02-2b   BURGL DWELLING STRUCTURE OR CONVEYANCE ARMED   F   F    $0.00    
782.04-1A1   FIRST DEGREE MURDER   F   C    $0.00    
810.02-2b   BURGL DWELLING STRUCTURE OR CONVEYANCE ARMED   F   F    $0.00    
812.014-2c1   LARC THEFT IS 300 OR MORE BUT LESS THAN 5000 DOLS   F   T    $0.00    
                $0.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=750916&IMG=38161


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 27, 2009, 06:03:04 PM
Tried the people search for that city,state.  Nothing listed even for a ...MILLER.  Any other clues??

The reason why I suggested Clarksville TN is because there is a link for a
comprehensive background report for: GLENDA SYKES MILLER Clarksville TN. None of the others.
Not sure if that means anything or not.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 27, 2009, 06:26:02 PM
Tried the people search for that city,state.  Nothing listed even for a ...MILLER.  Any other clues??

The reason why I suggested Clarksville TN is because there is a link for a
comprehensive background report for: GLENDA SYKES MILLER Clarksville TN. None of the others.
Not sure if that means anything or not.

Perry Bradley Miller is possibly Glenda Sykes Miller's Husband?
Age 73.
(See line 18) http://www.peoplefinders.com/search/searchpreview.aspx?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 27, 2009, 06:39:54 PM
Lookie what I found.

http://www.realestate.countyclerk.dallascounty.org/detail.aspx?doc=199800338195&ms=0&n=199800338195

If it shows a fatal error with java just click ok.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 27, 2009, 06:58:17 PM
I've found one Perry Miller listing in Dallas, TX and three Glenda Miller's in Dalls also.
Not sure what is ok to post or not.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 27, 2009, 07:08:15 PM
I've found one Perry Miller listing in Dallas, TX and three Glenda Miller's in Dalls also.
Not sure what is ok to post or not.

We are not restricted from posting names.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 27, 2009, 07:12:23 PM
I've found one Perry Miller listing in Dallas, TX and three Glenda Miller's in Dalls also.
Not sure what is ok to post or not.

We are not restricted from posting names.
OK Thanks Grams.
I did find listings though so if anyone were interested.
I won't post what I found but there are a few possibilities.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 07:14:12 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 07:16:18 PM
Oh sorry about that!  Brandi help please!  Can you fix the pic of the contract above for me.  TIA!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 27, 2009, 07:28:52 PM
BBL Monkeys. I have some chores that need attention.
I am saying a prayer that Haleigh is found by the time I sign back on.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 27, 2009, 07:32:00 PM
Have you Monkeys tried www.classmates.com 

After you register, search... people, k-12 schools, etc.

Type in a last name and away you go to dig seach, etc. I hope this is helpful.
 
One important thing your name may appear after you register, careful, you may wish to register under a deceased member of your family & their school, that way you are anonymous. Clever monkeys!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: klaasend on May 27, 2009, 07:40:10 PM
Oh sorry about that!  Brandi help please!  Can you fix the pic of the contract above for me.  TIA!

Brandi cannot help you.  Likely only I can.  Brandi is not a moderator.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 27, 2009, 07:44:20 PM
 I would suggest to register under a late family members name, it will keep yourself anonymous on classmates.com


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 08:07:34 PM
Oh sorry about that!  Brandi help please!  Can you fix the pic of the contract above for me.  TIA!

Brandi cannot help you.  Likely only I can.  Brandi is not a moderator.

Oh well you will do fine klaasend.  Thank you so much!  Hope all is fine with you and yours.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 08:10:18 PM
Have you Monkeys tried www.classmates.com 

After you register, search... people, k-12 schools, etc.

Type in a last name and away you go to dig seach, etc. I hope this is helpful.
 
One important thing your name may appear after you register, careful, you may wish to register under a deceased member of your family & their school, that way you are anonymous. Clever monkeys!

now that is clever Klaas...had not thought of that!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 08:15:20 PM
We each see articles, posts thru our own eyes.  We each read between the lines of the news articles, hoping to find something this is not being said.

We all have views on each side.  That does not make us sole supporters of either side.  One day, I can see all of the clues, infomation leading to Ron & Misty.  Then when someone posts other information concerning the Sheffield side, I can see their point as well. 

I and neither do any of you...KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HALEIGH.  We are all here for the same reason to research information and try to come with a theory or info that can bring Haleigh home.

Each has contributed in their own way.  All of the posters here need a round of applause, as everyone has worked very hard to come to a conclusion.  Our hands are tied .....  we are unable to access some information that is not available to us.  Whether LE has their grips on the case, is another thing we do not know.

Even though we see one side or the other, we are still the MONKEYS and must work together to keep this forum open. 



yep...I agree....everyone on here has a valuable opinion...everyone!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 08:16:46 PM
BBL Monkeys. I have some chores that need attention.
I am saying a prayer that Haleigh is found by the time I sign back on.




you have a life outside of here???  How bizarre!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 27, 2009, 08:26:54 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/COBRAsContract.jpg)

Heart, what contract is this? I am having difficulty reading it. Can you send me to the source, please?



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 27, 2009, 08:44:51 PM
I wonder why LE hasn't release the evidence that they have collected in the home.
They release the van . Do they have to arrest someone  or ones  before they release any findings that they have collected... So far no word on the door they took and the piece of wall or anything else... ::MonkeyTongue::

They may have something of interest, but until they can piece this puzzle together and connect the dots with the evidence, if any was found, guess cannot tip off the abductor, if any.

If the theory of Gr Sykes turned out to be true, well they have Squires right close to them as that is where Jr. was going daily. 

True.. Are their any Squires in Texas or Tennessee ? ::MonkeyTongue::

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Glenda Sykes Miller, age 70, Texas. peoplefinders.com line 27, look up under Glenda Miller, line 27

Myles Sykes obit has listed a SISTER listed as Glenda Miller, that is what I found on line 27, a Glenda "Sykes' Miller.

Awesome work !......does it show an address??? ::MonkeyDance::

Try GLENDA SYKES MILLER Clarksville TN



okay...thank you....

Finally caught up... Good Evening Monkeys..... ::MonkeyTongue::

I will find addresses... Well i dont know who would agree with me but if Fibsty didn't have all the inconsistant stories we would have a timeline and if we have a timeline
we might of found Haleigh by now.....  ::MonkeyEek::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 08:47:40 PM
Jersey...yep...Misty is the key....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 27, 2009, 08:49:44 PM
CHARLES  EDWARD  CORING
Palatka ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/27/2009 5:12:24 PM  - Booking#: 08-05185
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 1/1/1984 -  RACE: B  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
782.04-1a2   HOMICIDE-WILLFUL KILL MURDER WHILE ENGAGED IN CERTAIN FELONY OFFENSE   F   C    $0.00    
810.02-2b   BURGL DWELLING STRUCTURE OR CONVEYANCE ARMED   F   F    $0.00    
782.04-1A1   FIRST DEGREE MURDER   F   C    $0.00    
810.02-2b   BURGL DWELLING STRUCTURE OR CONVEYANCE ARMED   F   F    $0.00    
812.014-2c1   LARC THEFT IS 300 OR MORE BUT LESS THAN 5000 DOLS   F   T    $0.00    
                $0.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=750916&IMG=38161

Heart.. I am alittle confused is this one of the players involved in the Haleigh case? ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 08:50:32 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/COBRAsContract.jpg)

Heart, what contract is this? I am having difficulty reading it. Can you send me to the source, please?



That is the contract between Cobra and Johnny Sheffield's mother-in-law, Ruby Kanger.

http://writeintoaction.com/COBRA%27s%20Contract.JPG

Klaasend took care of it for me.  It was oversized big time.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 08:52:49 PM
CHARLES  EDWARD  CORING
Palatka ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/27/2009 5:12:24 PM  - Booking#: 08-05185
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 1/1/1984 -  RACE: B  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
782.04-1a2   HOMICIDE-WILLFUL KILL MURDER WHILE ENGAGED IN CERTAIN FELONY OFFENSE   F   C    $0.00    
810.02-2b   BURGL DWELLING STRUCTURE OR CONVEYANCE ARMED   F   F    $0.00    
782.04-1A1   FIRST DEGREE MURDER   F   C    $0.00    
810.02-2b   BURGL DWELLING STRUCTURE OR CONVEYANCE ARMED   F   F    $0.00    
812.014-2c1   LARC THEFT IS 300 OR MORE BUT LESS THAN 5000 DOLS   F   T    $0.00    
                $0.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=750916&IMG=38161

Heart.. I am alittle confused is this one of the players involved in the Haleigh case? ::MonkeyTongue::

No, not to my knowledge JG.  Just another Palatka, Fl miscreant.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 27, 2009, 08:52:55 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/COBRAsContract.jpg)

Heart, what contract is this? I am having difficulty reading it. Can you send me to the source, please?



That is the contract between Cobra and Johnny Sheffield's mother-in-law, Ruby Kanger.

http://writeintoaction.com/COBRA%27s%20Contract.JPG

Klaasend took care of it for me.  It was oversized big time.

Thank you very much, Heart.

LOL ... seen many over-sized pictures here before ;-)



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 08:57:26 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/COBRAsContract.jpg)

Heart, what contract is this? I am having difficulty reading it. Can you send me to the source, please?



That is the contract between Cobra and Johnny Sheffield's mother-in-law, Ruby Kanger.

http://writeintoaction.com/COBRA%27s%20Contract.JPG

Klaasend took care of it for me.  It was oversized big time.

Thank you very much, Heart.

LOL ... seen many over-sized pictures here before ;-)



that document is how my thighs look  in the reflection on the side of my car...or one of those mirrors at the carnivals.... ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: jules3699 on May 27, 2009, 08:58:07 PM
JMO, I used to come here every day to see if there is any news on Haleigh yet but after today and seeing all the sniping and back and forth I do believe I will not get my news from this thread anymore.  Haleigh is GONE, her underage step-mother (Ha Ha) was last to be seen with her and the LE in that little screwed up town cannot/willnot do anything to bring this child home.  Ron is a bully who abuses his "girlfriends" and his children, Chrystal needs to grow up and become responsible and the remaining child needs to be removed FROM ALL OF THEM NOW.  Sides have been taken here and the snide comments back and forth is not getting anything accomplished for this child.  Go to the Natalee Holloway thread and read about corruption in Aruba and there is your answer to what has become of this case.  LE appears to me to be inept and cannot/will not solve this and bring this child home. JMO
Blue Moon, I am with you on this, corruption, inept investigation, people that should go home because they are just causing more damage, and I believe Haleigh is gone also, I just don't see it any other way, God knows I have tried. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Ditto~I'm beginning to wonder if LE lays off the backs of the druggie's in lieu of kickbacks, heaven knows nobody gets any punishment in that town....
I am so disgusted with all of this and some other cases, I could just scream. I do hope that little Elijah is doing good  ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks for asking!!!!!!! He had a rough patch last week, but today and this past weekend he's doing wonderful...........maybe he know we've moved and have a special  room just for him and he's ready to come home and let me spoil him rotten to the core

Awww....I am so glad Elijah is doing wonderful and have enjoyed the photos you have shared with us.  I bet you cant wait to get him home and I am sure he cant wait to be home with his wonderful moma and grandma!!!  I am so happy for you IM! This is great news!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 27, 2009, 09:02:25 PM
http://writeintoaction.com/COBRA%27s%20Contract.JPG

According to the above link, on May 13, 2009 .. Cobra entered into a contract with Haleigh's paternal grandfather's mother-in-law.

In it, he agrees to look for Haleigh Cummmings for the sum of $5.00.

What in the world would be the purpose of this? I thought he was there looking for her from the beginning. And this is the first I have heard of Ruby Kanger, Johnny Sheffield's mother-in-law.

Man, I am confused. Am I just out of the loop on this one?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 09:05:27 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/COBRAsContract.jpg)

Heart, what contract is this? I am having difficulty reading it. Can you send me to the source, please?



That is the contract between Cobra and Johnny Sheffield's mother-in-law, Ruby Kanger.

http://writeintoaction.com/COBRA%27s%20Contract.JPG

Klaasend took care of it for me.  It was oversized big time.

Thank you very much, Heart.

LOL ... seen many over-sized pictures here before ;-)



that document is how my thighs look  in the reflection on the side of my car...or one of those mirrors at the carnivals.... ::MonkeyHaHa::
Oh cookie, you are a mess  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 09:06:28 PM
http://writeintoaction.com/COBRA%27s%20Contract.JPG

According to the above link, on May 13, 2009 .. Cobra entered into a contract with Haleigh's paternal grandfather's mother-in-law.

In it, he agrees to look for Haleigh Cummmings for the sum of $5.00.

What in the world would be the purpose of this? I thought he was there looking for her from the beginning. And this is the first I have heard of Ruby Kanger, Johnny Sheffield's mother-in-law.

Man, I am confused. Am I just out of the loop on this one?

Brandi....I will try to find the article about this...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 09:07:56 PM
http://writeintoaction.com/COBRA%27s%20Contract.JPG

According to the above link, on May 13, 2009 .. Cobra entered into a contract with Haleigh's paternal grandfather's mother-in-law.

In it, he agrees to look for Haleigh Cummmings for the sum of $5.00.

What in the world would be the purpose of this? I thought he was there looking for her from the beginning. And this is the first I have heard of Ruby Kanger, Johnny Sheffield's mother-in-law.

Man, I am confused. Am I just out of the loop on this one?

Brandi....I will try to find the article about this...

Heart...where is that article where Cobra is telling all  about Kim P. on here...if you have it faster than I can get it...Brandi needs it...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 09:09:57 PM
brandi...here it is...very interesting reading...Heart supplied the article...read the whole thing...

William ‘COBRA’ Staubs announces intent to file BAR complaint against Florida Attorney Kim Picazio

http://writeintoaction.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 27, 2009, 09:11:11 PM
Tried the people search for that city,state.  Nothing listed even for a ...MILLER.  Any other clues??

I found alot of Glenda Millers in TN.... I think if a family member has Haleigh on GGRANNY side it would be her  maiden name.. As GGranny has been married a couple of times or more... Stallings or Squire was her maiden name?? I am so confused @ this time .. What is GGranny maiden name.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 27, 2009, 09:11:57 PM
brandi...here it is...very interesting reading...Heart supplied the article...read the whole thing...

William ‘COBRA’ Staubs announces intent to file BAR complaint against Florida Attorney Kim Picazio

http://writeintoaction.com/

Thanks!

I found it right when you posted the link. LOL

I thought I had read the entire article earlier. Lemme go read thoroughly this time.

Thank you again, cookie.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 09:12:37 PM
http://writeintoaction.com/COBRA%27s%20Contract.JPG

According to the above link, on May 13, 2009 .. Cobra entered into a contract with Haleigh's paternal grandfather's mother-in-law.

In it, he agrees to look for Haleigh Cummmings for the sum of $5.00.

What in the world would be the purpose of this? I thought he was there looking for her from the beginning. And this is the first I have heard of Ruby Kanger, Johnny Sheffield's mother-in-law.

Man, I am confused. Am I just out of the loop on this one?

In the radio interview with Simon, Pickles, Cobra, Art last Sunday, or it could have been the interview from the site tht the copy of the contract is on,  Cobra mentioned something about KP trying to get rid of him and he also stated that he had entered into a contract with Johnny Sheffield's mother-in-law Ruby, not mentioning her last name.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 09:13:49 PM
Tried the people search for that city,state.  Nothing listed even for a ...MILLER.  Any other clues??

I found alot of Glenda Millers in TN.... I think if a family member has Haleigh on GGRANNY side it would be her  maiden name.. As GGranny has been married a couple of times or more... Stallings or Squire was her maiden name?? I am so confused @ this time .. What is GGranny maiden name.... ::MonkeyTongue::

are there 2 great granny's? one on Crystals side too? Remember Marie stated early on that she felt that Haleigh was in another state....what does she know? what family does she have out of state?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 27, 2009, 09:16:49 PM
http://writeintoaction.com/COBRA%27s%20Contract.JPG

According to the above link, on May 13, 2009 .. Cobra entered into a contract with Haleigh's paternal grandfather's mother-in-law.

In it, he agrees to look for Haleigh Cummmings for the sum of $5.00.

What in the world would be the purpose of this? I thought he was there looking for her from the beginning. And this is the first I have heard of Ruby Kanger, Johnny Sheffield's mother-in-law.

Man, I am confused. Am I just out of the loop on this one?

In the radio interview with Simon, Pickles, Cobra, Art last Sunday, or it could have been the interview from the site tht the copy of the contract is on,  Cobra mentioned something about KP trying to get rid of him and he also stated that he had entered into a contract with Johnny Sheffield's mother-in-law Ruby, not mentioning her last name.

Ok, I read that part of the article. What I am confused about is why does Cobra need any contract to be in Satsuma and look for Haleigh on his own? I thought that was what he was doing from the start. Looking for her on his own dime and time.

I don't get the purpose of the $5.00 contract. Is it some legal thing that allows him to use some "powers" he has as a PI?

~Brandi is confused.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 09:17:51 PM
I wonder why LE hasn't release the evidence that they have collected in the home.
They release the van . Do they have to arrest someone  or ones  before they release any findings that they have collected... So far no word on the door they took and the piece of wall or anything else... ::MonkeyTongue::

They may have something of interest, but until they can piece this puzzle together and connect the dots with the evidence, if any was found, guess cannot tip off the abductor, if any.

If the theory of Gr Sykes turned out to be true, well they have Squires right close to them as that is where Jr. was going daily. 

True.. Are their any Squires in Texas or Tennessee ? ::MonkeyTongue::

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Glenda Sykes Miller, age 70, Texas. peoplefinders.com line 27, look up under Glenda Miller, line 27

Myles Sykes obit has listed a SISTER listed as Glenda Miller, that is what I found on line 27, a Glenda "Sykes' Miller.

Awesome work !......does it show an address??? ::MonkeyDance::

Try GLENDA SYKES MILLER Clarksville TN



okay...thank you....

Finally caught up... Good Evening Monkeys..... ::MonkeyTongue::

I will find addresses... Well i dont know who would agree with me but if Fibsty didn't have all the inconsistant stories we would have a timeline and if we have a timeline
we might of found Haleigh by now.....  ::MonkeyEek::



We might combine our facts that we are aware of, and try to create a timeline that we can work from.. We might well start with what information we can obtain from the friday prior, through that weekend.  We still have unanswered questions as to where the children were that weekend and if they were at home at Sunday night, or was ronald trying to get over to the children that monday morning to take Haleigh  to school.  I think if we combine our info we can create a good basic line to look at.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 09:18:38 PM
Tried the people search for that city,state.  Nothing listed even for a ...MILLER.  Any other clues??

I found alot of Glenda Millers in TN.... I think if a family member has Haleigh on GGRANNY side it would be her  maiden name.. As GGranny has been married a couple of times or more... Stallings or Squire was her maiden name?? I am so confused @ this time .. What is GGranny maiden name.... ::MonkeyTongue::

Ok Grama and JG, whose side of the family do you think  Brooks (Amber, Lisa, and Mary,  belongs, the Sheffields or the Johns, or some other?

I have ran across a Justin and Jason Johns in San Mateo. And possibly a Brian Johns in Bostwick.   Anyone know Mary D Brooks maiden name?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 27, 2009, 09:18:40 PM
Tried the people search for that city,state.  Nothing listed even for a ...MILLER.  Any other clues??

I found alot of Glenda Millers in TN.... I think if a family member has Haleigh on GGRANNY side it would be her  maiden name.. As GGranny has been married a couple of times or more... Stallings or Squire was her maiden name?? I am so confused @ this time .. What is GGranny maiden name.... ::MonkeyTongue::

are there 2 great granny's? one on Crystals side too? Remember Marie stated early on that she felt that Haleigh was in another state....what does she know? what family does she have out of state?

We will look @ both sides who has family out of state. Also 7 hours away and mostly likely live in a rural area or owns their own farm where Haleigh would be out of sight... Marie made that comment  I dont think to incriminate themselves but knowing the Cummings and GGranny Sykes have family out of state... melee posted states that were 7 hours away also I wanted to know if Texas is 7 hours away? ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 09:22:22 PM
Tried the people search for that city,state.  Nothing listed even for a ...MILLER.  Any other clues??

I found alot of Glenda Millers in TN.... I think if a family member has Haleigh on GGRANNY side it would be her  maiden name.. As GGranny has been married a couple of times or more... Stallings or Squire was her maiden name?? I am so confused @ this time .. What is GGranny maiden name.... ::MonkeyTongue::

are there 2 great granny's? one on Crystals side too? Remember Marie stated early on that she felt that Haleigh was in another state....what does she know? what family does she have out of state?

We will look @ both sides who has family out of state. Also 7 hours away and mostly likely live in a rural area or owns their own farm where Haleigh would be out of sight... Marie made that comment  I dont think to incriminate themselves but knowing the Cummings and GGranny Sykes have family out of state... melee posted states that were 7 hours away also I wanted to know if Texas is 7 hours away? ::MonkeyTongue::
I am in Texas JG, I know that I am 15 hours away from Ga and I believe that Florida would be farther.  My son is based in Georgia and I believe Florida is at least 6 hours from him.   But let me check that out, just going off the top of my head at the present which is pretty scrambled right now, lol.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 09:23:46 PM
Tried the people search for that city,state.  Nothing listed even for a ...MILLER.  Any other clues??

I found alot of Glenda Millers in TN.... I think if a family member has Haleigh on GGRANNY side it would be her  maiden name.. As GGranny has been married a couple of times or more... Stallings or Squire was her maiden name?? I am so confused @ this time .. What is GGranny maiden name.... ::MonkeyTongue::

are there 2 great granny's? one on Crystals side too? Remember Marie stated early on that she felt that Haleigh was in another state....what does she know? what family does she have out of state?

We will look @ both sides who has family out of state. Also 7 hours away and mostly likely live in a rural area or owns their own farm where Haleigh would be out of sight... Marie made that comment  I dont think to incriminate themselves but knowing the Cummings and GGranny Sykes have family out of state... melee posted states that were 7 hours away also I wanted to know if Texas is 7 hours away? ::MonkeyTongue::

still...don't you think that it was an odd comment to make right when Haleigh was missing? she said it almost like she was sure about it and that Haleigh was safe...dunno..that is the way I took it anyway...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 27, 2009, 09:26:39 PM
Tried the people search for that city,state.  Nothing listed even for a ...MILLER.  Any other clues??

I found alot of Glenda Millers in TN.... I think if a family member has Haleigh on GGRANNY side it would be her  maiden name.. As GGranny has been married a couple of times or more... Stallings or Squire was her maiden name?? I am so confused @ this time .. What is GGranny maiden name.... ::MonkeyTongue::

Ok Grama and JG, whose side of the family do you think  Brooks (Amber, Lisa, and Mary,  belongs, the Sheffields or the Johns, or some other?

I have ran across a Justin and Jason Johns in San Mateo. And possibly a Brian Johns in Bostwick.   Anyone know Mary D Brooks maiden name?

Maybe all us monkeys all can take a name and do some searching in other states..
we have the Sheffield,s Cummings, Croslins, Johns, Squires, GGranny maiden /9stallings) not sure.. please add  to the list... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 27, 2009, 09:28:12 PM
Tried the people search for that city,state.  Nothing listed even for a ...MILLER.  Any other clues??

I found alot of Glenda Millers in TN.... I think if a family member has Haleigh on GGRANNY side it would be her  maiden name.. As GGranny has been married a couple of times or more... Stallings or Squire was her maiden name?? I am so confused @ this time .. What is GGranny maiden name.... ::MonkeyTongue::

are there 2 great granny's? one on Crystals side too? Remember Marie stated early on that she felt that Haleigh was in another state....what does she know? what family does she have out of state?

We will look @ both sides who has family out of state. Also 7 hours away and mostly likely live in a rural area or owns their own farm where Haleigh would be out of sight... Marie made that comment  I dont think to incriminate themselves but knowing the Cummings and GGranny Sykes have family out of state... melee posted states that were 7 hours away also I wanted to know if Texas is 7 hours away? ::MonkeyTongue::

still...don't you think that it was an odd comment to make right when Haleigh was missing? she said it almost like she was sure about it and that Haleigh was safe...dunno..that is the way I took it anyway...

No I dont think it was odd if my grand daughter was missing... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 09:29:12 PM
Tried the people search for that city,state.  Nothing listed even for a ...MILLER.  Any other clues??

I found alot of Glenda Millers in TN.... I think if a family member has Haleigh on GGRANNY side it would be her  maiden name.. As GGranny has been married a couple of times or more... Stallings or Squire was her maiden name?? I am so confused @ this time .. What is GGranny maiden name.... ::MonkeyTongue::

are there 2 great granny's? one on Crystals side too? Remember Marie stated early on that she felt that Haleigh was in another state....what does she know? what family does she have out of state?

Cookie, we know that Marie's maiden name was John's.  early on in the research,  I found some data and thought I had posted it.  In fact, I had found a John's female who had married a Cummings, this would be about a generation or so back..  I don't know who her parents were, but I do believe that she and johnny were married in Baker county or St. John's county.  I guess its time to start digging.  I found in the distance elements I was talking about this morning, that there are about 1500 Sheffields in the cities and towns that I posted, within that 7 hour travel time. 
This is what I based it on.  In a news report I located, I found that the Detective had told the reporter that Crystal was at her residence in Georgia at the time Haleigh went missing. That is odd, you have to admit.  Second, the reports that Marie was notified at 3:45 in the morning, not Crystal.. but Marie. They called Johnny Sheffield to drive over to the mobile home and check it out, in case it was a prank??  Now, lets be honest and direct.. Why would they think this was a prank?
next, it is reported that they were seen gasing up, also that Marie finished her bus route, prior to starting to head out of Satsuma.  Now, I know for a fact, Marie could have called in and had a substitue drive the bus that morning.  I use to be a substitue bus driver, so that too makes you wonder>  Next, it was reported they did not arrive for 7 to 7 and 1/2 hours after the initial call was made.  My thoughts, what if.. they wanted to make sure Haleigh had safely arrived at a location out of state.  By the time they arrived in Satsuma, Haleigh would have been that far away.

I think there are many details that are out there, we just haven't found them, if we work together, we just might..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 27, 2009, 09:36:27 PM
Ok I am going to search for Cummings in other states.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 09:37:10 PM
Tried the people search for that city,state.  Nothing listed even for a ...MILLER.  Any other clues??

I found alot of Glenda Millers in TN.... I think if a family member has Haleigh on GGRANNY side it would be her  maiden name.. As GGranny has been married a couple of times or more... Stallings or Squire was her maiden name?? I am so confused @ this time .. What is GGranny maiden name.... ::MonkeyTongue::

are there 2 great granny's? one on Crystals side too? Remember Marie stated early on that she felt that Haleigh was in another state....what does she know? what family does she have out of state?

Cookie, we know that Marie's maiden name was John's.  early on in the research,  I found some data and thought I had posted it.  In fact, I had found a John's female who had married a Cummings, this would be about a generation or so back..  I don't know who her parents were, but I do believe that she and johnny were married in Baker county or St. John's county.  I guess its time to start digging.  I found in the distance elements I was talking about this morning, that there are about 1500 Sheffields in the cities and towns that I posted, within that 7 hour travel time. 
This is what I based it on.  In a news report I located, I found that the Detective had told the reporter that Crystal was at her residence in Georgia at the time Haleigh went missing. That is odd, you have to admit.  Second, the reports that Marie was notified at 3:45 in the morning, not Crystal.. but Marie. They called Johnny Sheffield to drive over to the mobile home and check it out, in case it was a prank??  Now, lets be honest and direct.. Why would they think this was a prank?
next, it is reported that they were seen gasing up, also that Marie finished her bus route, prior to starting to head out of Satsuma.  Now, I know for a fact, Marie could have called in and had a substitue drive the bus that morning.  I use to be a substitue bus driver, so that too makes you wonder>  Next, it was reported they did not arrive for 7 to 7 and 1/2 hours after the initial call was made.  My thoughts, what if.. they wanted to make sure Haleigh had safely arrived at a location out of state.  By the time they arrived in Satsuma, Haleigh would have been that far away.

I think there are many details that are out there, we just haven't found them, if we work together, we just might..

mlee....yep...that makes sense and goes with Marie's statement that she thought or had a feeling that Haleigh was in another state...I think that she may have even named the state IIRC....Myself, I thought it odd at the time and kindof piqued my hinky meter at the time...but could just be me...
I don't understand the delay in Crystal getting to Satsuma either....I would not even stop for a minute would you? would be out that door so darn fast...I wonder if she could have even called the police where she lives and gotten a police escort or an officer to drive her at top speed?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 09:38:42 PM
Ok I am going to search for Cummings in other states.... ::MonkeyTongue::

ok...I live in Illinois...who would you like for me to investigate? I am officially a Monkey McTective now....in my own mind anyways....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 27, 2009, 09:41:14 PM
Ok I am going to search for Cummings in other states.... ::MonkeyTongue::

ok...I live in Illinois...who would you like for me to investigate? I am officially a Monkey McTective now....in my own mind anyways....

Who ever you want cookie.. the more help the better.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 09:47:31 PM
Ok I am going to search for Cummings in other states.... ::MonkeyTongue::

ok...I live in Illinois...who would you like for me to investigate? I am officially a Monkey McTective now....in my own mind anyways....

First let's gather facts for a timeline.  the reason for Haleigh to go missing, has to be a parental issue.  Haleigh's wellbeing.   Something promoted this to occur.  It is not going to be money.  I think its possible that something about the weekend prior initiated this.  It's possible that the party weekend was a little bit too much for someone to handle, and it was a breaking point.   So, lets dig on that weekend with what we can find.  You notice Amber has said nothing. she could be the candle that lite the flame.

Two, I think we should gather as much information like grandparents, brothers sisters of the sheffields that live in other states..  Take your choice Cookie their is alot to go around..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 09:51:02 PM
Tried the people search for that city,state.  Nothing listed even for a ...MILLER.  Any other clues??

I found alot of Glenda Millers in TN.... I think if a family member has Haleigh on GGRANNY side it would be her  maiden name.. As GGranny has been married a couple of times or more... Stallings or Squire was her maiden name?? I am so confused @ this time .. What is GGranny maiden name.... ::MonkeyTongue::

are there 2 great granny's? one on Crystals side too? Remember Marie stated early on that she felt that Haleigh was in another state....what does she know? what family does she have out of state?

We will look @ both sides who has family out of state. Also 7 hours away and mostly likely live in a rural area or owns their own farm where Haleigh would be out of sight... Marie made that comment  I dont think to incriminate themselves but knowing the Cummings and GGranny Sykes have family out of state... melee posted states that were 7 hours away also I wanted to know if Texas is 7 hours away? ::MonkeyTongue::
I am in Texas JG, I know that I am 15 hours away from Ga and I believe that Florida would be farther.  My son is based in Georgia and I believe Florida is at least 6 hours from him.   But let me check that out, just going off the top of my head at the present which is pretty scrambled right now, lol.

Heart, I ran about a 90 degree of larger towns and cities that are about 7 hours from Satsuma, and then I ran a search on Sheffields, this was the results. about 1500 of them.

Zabasearch...

Fayetteville NC - SHEFFIELD - 29 Free Listings   
Charlotte, NC -  SHEFFIELD - 74 Free Listings   
Rockingham, NC - SHEFFIELD - 4 Free Listings   
Laurenburg, NC none
Spartenburg, sc - SHEFFIELD - 612 Free Listings 
Atlanta, Ga -  SHEFFIELD - 537 Free Listings   
LaGrange, Ga - SHEFFIELD - 6 Free Listings   
Montgomery, Ala - SHEFFIELD - 40 Free Listings   
Mobile, Ala -  SHEFFIELD - 302 Free Listings 
Athens, Ga -  SHEFFIELD - 66 Free Listings 




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 09:56:58 PM
I've found one Perry Miller listing in Dallas, TX and three Glenda Miller's in Dalls also.
Not sure what is ok to post or not.

Total Distance: 27.4 mi Perry Miller from me.

There are actually 5 different Glenda Millers listed in the Dallas, Tx area.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 10:03:42 PM
I wanted to add,  Fayetteville is where Ft. Bragg is located, also Polk Field, so it is Army and Air Force.  Very large City, which stretches down to Hoke County, NC.

Rockingham is a small community, rural and very country..

Charlotte, is absolutely huge, and to tell you the truth, on one afternoon at Carawins, which is huge Park, you might see 200 little girls that look alot like Haleigh.

Laurenburg, is larger than Rockingham, stretched out, and butts up against SC.

Spartenburg, SC, another very large city, spread out and rural.

Atlanta, takes in at least 12 counties.

Montgomery, LaGrange Mobile, Montgomery and Athens, I really don't know much about.  I have been in and through all the others.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 10:05:55 PM
I've found one Perry Miller listing in Dallas, TX and three Glenda Miller's in Dalls also.
Not sure what is ok to post or not.

Total Distance: 27.4 mi Perry Miller from me.

There are actually 5 different Glenda Millers listed in the Dallas, Tx area.

We found this past week that Grandma Sykes was born in Dallas.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 27, 2009, 10:09:18 PM
mlee.. your good with the towns and states.. Can you post a list of states that are 7 hours away... I started my search for Cummings and going to find out first if they are indded family members before I do the state search for them..., ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 10:09:21 PM
Ok I am going to search for Cummings in other states.... ::MonkeyTongue::

ok...I live in Illinois...who would you like for me to investigate? I am officially a Monkey McTective now....in my own mind anyways....

First let's gather facts for a timeline.  the reason for Haleigh to go missing, has to be a parental issue.  Haleigh's wellbeing.   Something promoted this to occur.  It is not going to be money.  I think its possible that something about the weekend prior initiated this.  It's possible that the party weekend was a little bit too much for someone to handle, and it was a breaking point.   So, lets dig on that weekend with what we can find.  You notice Amber has said nothing. she could be the candle that lite the flame.

Two, I think we should gather as much information like grandparents, brothers sisters of the sheffields that live in other states..  Take your choice Cookie their is alot to go around..

Ok, according to a poster with the user name of Genva at itsamysterytome site who says she lives in the Satsuma area, Haleigh and Jr were with Crystal the weekend that Misty was out partying.

What day was it that Misty hooked up with Nay, Nay?

What day was it that Amber hooked up with Nay, Nay?

Was Amber communicating with Crystal before, after, or during the entire time of the partying?

What was the day that Amber borrowed Nay, Nay's car?

What was the day (night) that Lisa Brooks say she spotted Ron in the parking lot of Mary Brooks apt. complex?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 27, 2009, 10:11:27 PM
Can we post family member when we find them in Who's who... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 10:15:30 PM
mlee.. your good with the towns and states.. Can you post a list of states that are 7 hours away... I started my search for Cummings and going to find out first if they are indded family members before I do the state search for them..., ::MonkeyTongue::


North Carolina, South Carolina, West Side of Georgia, Alabama. Those are our states that have cities that travel time is 7 hours.
I will post a map showing you where every thing sets.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 27, 2009, 10:17:35 PM
mlee.. your good with the towns and states.. Can you post a list of states that are 7 hours away... I started my search for Cummings and going to find out first if they are indded family members before I do the state search for them..., ::MonkeyTongue::


North Carolina, South Carolina, West Side of Georgia, Alabama. Those are our states that have cities that travel time is 7 hours.
I will post a map showing you where every thing sets.

Thanks.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 10:18:17 PM
I've found one Perry Miller listing in Dallas, TX and three Glenda Miller's in Dalls also.
Not sure what is ok to post or not.

Total Distance: 27.4 mi Perry Miller from me.

There are actually 5 different Glenda Millers listed in the Dallas, Tx area.

We found this past week that Grandma Sykes was born in Dallas.

Approximately 195 Sykes listed in the DFW metroplex area, and that is not even counting all the little suburbs. Which if they are the older generation and lived on an acre or more, farms, etc., they probably will be in the suburbs. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 10:19:45 PM
Ok I am going to search for Cummings in other states.... ::MonkeyTongue::

ok...I live in Illinois...who would you like for me to investigate? I am officially a Monkey McTective now....in my own mind anyways....

First let's gather facts for a timeline.  the reason for Haleigh to go missing, has to be a parental issue.  Haleigh's wellbeing.   Something promoted this to occur.  It is not going to be money.  I think its possible that something about the weekend prior initiated this.  It's possible that the party weekend was a little bit too much for someone to handle, and it was a breaking point.   So, lets dig on that weekend with what we can find.  You notice Amber has said nothing. she could be the candle that lite the flame.

Two, I think we should gather as much information like grandparents, brothers sisters of the sheffields that live in other states..  Take your choice Cookie their is alot to go around..

Ok, according to a poster with the user name of Genva at itsamysterytome site who says she lives in the Satsuma area, Haleigh and Jr were with Crystal the weekend that Misty was out partying.

What day was it that Misty hooked up with Nay, Nay?

What day was it that Amber hooked up with Nay, Nay?

Was Amber communicating with Crystal before, after, or during the entire time of the partying?

What was the day that Amber borrowed Nay, Nay's car?

What was the day (night) that Lisa Brooks say she spotted Ron in the parking lot of Mary Brooks apt. complex?

now that is interesting..had not heard that before, nor had it occurred to me that Crystal had the kids while Misty was partying...I think that most/some of us had assumed that the grannys had filled in taking care of the kids while Misty was on her binge....very interesting indeed...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 10:25:36 PM
Look at this old fool with one foot in the grave.
He will pay his $104.00 and then back on the streets again.

GERALD  DAVID  CREWS
East Palatka ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/27/2009 9:26:57 PM  - Booking#: 09-02162
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 3/9/1949 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
784.048-2   STALKING FOLLOW HARASS CYBERSTALK ANOTHER   F   F    $1,004.00    
                $1,004.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754320&IMG=58662http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754320&IMG=58662


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 10:32:05 PM
If this isn't big enough, I wil enlarge it.

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/statemap.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 27, 2009, 10:35:50 PM
Ok I am going to search for Cummings in other states.... ::MonkeyTongue::

ok...I live in Illinois...who would you like for me to investigate? I am officially a Monkey McTective now....in my own mind anyways....

First let's gather facts for a timeline.  the reason for Haleigh to go missing, has to be a parental issue.  Haleigh's wellbeing.   Something promoted this to occur.  It is not going to be money.  I think its possible that something about the weekend prior initiated this.  It's possible that the party weekend was a little bit too much for someone to handle, and it was a breaking point.   So, lets dig on that weekend with what we can find.  You notice Amber has said nothing. she could be the candle that lite the flame.

Two, I think we should gather as much information like grandparents, brothers sisters of the sheffields that live in other states..  Take your choice Cookie their is alot to go around..

Ok, according to a poster with the user name of Genva at itsamysterytome site who says she lives in the Satsuma area, Haleigh and Jr were with Crystal the weekend that Misty was out partying.

What day was it that Misty hooked up with Nay, Nay?

What day was it that Amber hooked up with Nay, Nay?

Was Amber communicating with Crystal before, after, or during the entire time of the partying?

What was the day that Amber borrowed Nay, Nay's car?

What was the day (night) that Lisa Brooks say she spotted Ron in the parking lot of Mary Brooks apt. complex?

I believe that poster is incorrect. I remember vividly that Crystal had stated that the next weekend (right after she went missing) was going to be her weekend with the kids. And she got the kids every 2 weeks. So, No. Crystal did not have them the weekend of Misty's "bender."

Here is a video interview stating that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OBfC3Zig3s

I believe further that GGma reportedly bringing clothes back Monday night (whether you believe it or not) was related to her probably watching the kids over the weekend at her house.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 10:36:28 PM
Ok I am going to search for Cummings in other states.... ::MonkeyTongue::

ok...I live in Illinois...who would you like for me to investigate? I am officially a Monkey McTective now....in my own mind anyways....

First let's gather facts for a timeline.  the reason for Haleigh to go missing, has to be a parental issue.  Haleigh's wellbeing.   Something promoted this to occur.  It is not going to be money.  I think its possible that something about the weekend prior initiated this.  It's possible that the party weekend was a little bit too much for someone to handle, and it was a breaking point.   So, lets dig on that weekend with what we can find.  You notice Amber has said nothing. she could be the candle that lite the flame.

Two, I think we should gather as much information like grandparents, brothers sisters of the sheffields that live in other states..  Take your choice Cookie their is alot to go around..

Ok, according to a poster with the user name of Genva at itsamysterytome site who says she lives in the Satsuma area, Haleigh and Jr were with Crystal the weekend that Misty was out partying.

What day was it that Misty hooked up with Nay, Nay?

What day was it that Amber hooked up with Nay, Nay?

Was Amber communicating with Crystal before, after, or during the entire time of the partying?

What was the day that Amber borrowed Nay, Nay's car?

What was the day (night) that Lisa Brooks say she spotted Ron in the parking lot of Mary Brooks apt. complex?

now that is interesting..had not heard that before, nor had it occurred to me that Crystal had the kids while Misty was partying...I think that most/some of us had assumed that the grannys had filled in taking care of the kids while Misty was on her binge....very interesting indeed...

I thought it was interesting as well when I read it cookie.  Gets one to pondering a bit.

March 30, 2009 Genva says:  Then again I know the family said the weekend before the child went missing that Misty and Crystal’s cousin were hanging out all weekend.This cousin is the person whom introduced Misty to Ronald. So I thought maybe Crystal had her cousin get Misty to leave the home with her, and then Crystal or someone on Crystal’s side of the family came into the home and took Haleigh, hoping to get DCF to find Ronald unable to properly care for the childern ( just like she doing right now), and get the childern taken from the father. Why??????? maybe Why??????? maybe because she’d was shedule to appear in court on failure to pay her child support. She was looking at some jail time. However after the child went missing Crystal went to the Putnam county court house and asked that the hearing be postponed until after the child was found. this was filed approx 4-5 days after the child was gone. I find that ODD… The hearing was indeed postponed. The warrent was with drawn.

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:JwGM1YmW_rIJ:itsamysterytome.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/crystal-sheffields-haleigh-bug-foundation-is-open-for-business/+genva+itsamysterytome&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 27, 2009, 10:39:37 PM
If this isn't big enough, I wil enlarge it.

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/statemap.jpg)

I have photoshop I can enlarge it there and save it thanks... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 10:40:39 PM
Ok I am going to search for Cummings in other states.... ::MonkeyTongue::

ok...I live in Illinois...who would you like for me to investigate? I am officially a Monkey McTective now....in my own mind anyways....

First let's gather facts for a timeline.  the reason for Haleigh to go missing, has to be a parental issue.  Haleigh's wellbeing.   Something promoted this to occur.  It is not going to be money.  I think its possible that something about the weekend prior initiated this.  It's possible that the party weekend was a little bit too much for someone to handle, and it was a breaking point.   So, lets dig on that weekend with what we can find.  You notice Amber has said nothing. she could be the candle that lite the flame.

Two, I think we should gather as much information like grandparents, brothers sisters of the sheffields that live in other states..  Take your choice Cookie their is alot to go around..

Ok, according to a poster with the user name of Genva at itsamysterytome site who says she lives in the Satsuma area, Haleigh and Jr were with Crystal the weekend that Misty was out partying.

What day was it that Misty hooked up with Nay, Nay?

What day was it that Amber hooked up with Nay, Nay?

Was Amber communicating with Crystal before, after, or during the entire time of the partying?

What was the day that Amber borrowed Nay, Nay's car?

What was the day (night) that Lisa Brooks say she spotted Ron in the parking lot of Mary Brooks apt. complex?

now that is interesting..had not heard that before, nor had it occurred to me that Crystal had the kids while Misty was partying...I think that most/some of us had assumed that the grannys had filled in taking care of the kids while Misty was on her binge....very interesting indeed...

I think, we were all under the assumption that the kids were with ron's mom or grandma.  It also brings back a thought that I played with prior.  I thought of little Haleigh knowing that someone was coming for her that night, and that was one reason she was staying up.  I still think they came in the front door, and Haleigh let them in. Haleigh could have heard them coming into the closed front porch, stood on the sofa looking out the window, and was jumping up and down excited they were there.  I still think that had Junior been asleep on the sofa or his room, he would have been missing also.  I think they could not take him out of bed, it was blocked by misty.   Crystal would have had to return them either that morning or the night before, if she didn't the Le would have come after her with a warrant. bottom line.. What if she dropped the kids off with the Grandma, and ron went to pick the kids up that next morning. explains his rush to get Haleigh to school on time.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 10:41:32 PM
Ok I am going to search for Cummings in other states.... ::MonkeyTongue::

ok...I live in Illinois...who would you like for me to investigate? I am officially a Monkey McTective now....in my own mind anyways....

First let's gather facts for a timeline.  the reason for Haleigh to go missing, has to be a parental issue.  Haleigh's wellbeing.   Something promoted this to occur.  It is not going to be money.  I think its possible that something about the weekend prior initiated this.  It's possible that the party weekend was a little bit too much for someone to handle, and it was a breaking point.   So, lets dig on that weekend with what we can find.  You notice Amber has said nothing. she could be the candle that lite the flame.

Two, I think we should gather as much information like grandparents, brothers sisters of the sheffields that live in other states..  Take your choice Cookie their is alot to go around..

Ok, according to a poster with the user name of Genva at itsamysterytome site who says she lives in the Satsuma area, Haleigh and Jr were with Crystal the weekend that Misty was out partying.

What day was it that Misty hooked up with Nay, Nay?

What day was it that Amber hooked up with Nay, Nay?

Was Amber communicating with Crystal before, after, or during the entire time of the partying?

What was the day that Amber borrowed Nay, Nay's car?

What was the day (night) that Lisa Brooks say she spotted Ron in the parking lot of Mary Brooks apt. complex?

I believe that poster is incorrect. I remember vividly that Crystal had stated that the next weekend (right after she went missing) was going to be her weekend with the kids. And she got the kids every 2 weeks. So, No. Crystal did not have them the weekend of Misty's "bender."

Here is a video interview stating that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OBfC3Zig3s

I believe further that GGma reportedly bringing clothes back Monday night (whether you believe it or not) was related to her probably watching the kids over the weekend at her house.



Well that cleared that up Brandi.  Thank you!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 27, 2009, 10:42:18 PM
Heart, I can answer another one of your questions:

"What was the day (night) that Lisa Brooks say she spotted Ron in the parking lot of Mary Brooks apt. complex?"

From my timeline notes:

"Indeed, just before 10 p.m. Sunday night, April 19, according to a 911 call my source heard on a police scanner, Brooks’ grandmother called the Putnam County Sheriff’s dispatcher to report Cummings had pulled up outside her house in his purple Nissan Ultima and sent Haleigh’s little brother, Junior, to her door to ask for his little brother, Jordan."


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 10:53:16 PM
Ok I am going to search for Cummings in other states.... ::MonkeyTongue::

ok...I live in Illinois...who would you like for me to investigate? I am officially a Monkey McTective now....in my own mind anyways....

First let's gather facts for a timeline.  the reason for Haleigh to go missing, has to be a parental issue.  Haleigh's wellbeing.   Something promoted this to occur.  It is not going to be money.  I think its possible that something about the weekend prior initiated this.  It's possible that the party weekend was a little bit too much for someone to handle, and it was a breaking point.   So, lets dig on that weekend with what we can find.  You notice Amber has said nothing. she could be the candle that lite the flame.

Two, I think we should gather as much information like grandparents, brothers sisters of the sheffields that live in other states..  Take your choice Cookie their is alot to go around..

Ok, according to a poster with the user name of Genva at itsamysterytome site who says she lives in the Satsuma area, Haleigh and Jr were with Crystal the weekend that Misty was out partying.

What day was it that Misty hooked up with Nay, Nay?

What day was it that Amber hooked up with Nay, Nay?

Was Amber communicating with Crystal before, after, or during the entire time of the partying?

What was the day that Amber borrowed Nay, Nay's car?

What was the day (night) that Lisa Brooks say she spotted Ron in the parking lot of Mary Brooks apt. complex?

I believe that poster is incorrect. I remember vividly that Crystal had stated that the next weekend (right after she went missing) was going to be her weekend with the kids. And she got the kids every 2 weeks. So, No. Crystal did not have them the weekend of Misty's "bender."

Here is a video interview stating that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OBfC3Zig3s

I believe further that GGma reportedly bringing clothes back Monday night (whether you believe it or not) was related to her probably watching the kids over the weekend at her house.



Well that cleared that up Brandi.  Thank you!

I agree that is what Crystal said.. But, Ron nor his Mother or Grandmother never commented on that.  That question was never ask of them was it?  Could be that the dirty clothes were brought back and given to grandma and she washed them.  The reason why I brought this up, is that commentary that was on that link earlier, where Ron talked about how many different untruth's that Crystal had been telling.  And that poster, that rainy had made a statement that Crystal had not been honest about somethings to cover her self..  Let's see if we can find anything that confirms where the kids were.. this I do believe we need to keep an open eye on.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 10:54:49 PM
Brandi....I did remember Crystal saying that  she would have the kids the following weekend...
but thanks for verifying that info....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 10:57:03 PM
Heart, I can answer another one of your questions:

"What was the day (night) that Lisa Brooks say she spotted Ron in the parking lot of Mary Brooks apt. complex?"

From my timeline notes:

"Indeed, just before 10 p.m. Sunday night, April 19, according to a 911 call my source heard on a police scanner, Brooks’ grandmother called the Putnam County Sheriff’s dispatcher to report Cummings had pulled up outside her house in his purple Nissan Ultima and sent Haleigh’s little brother, Junior, to her door to ask for his little brother, Jordan."

all of which turned out to be untrue as well....IIRC


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 11:01:38 PM
The night that misty and ron had a fight and he dropped her off at her brothers, was Friday night right?  Was there ever anything said about Ron having the kids with them?  Any of the interviews?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 27, 2009, 11:01:46 PM
Good Night Monkeys..... I am off searching....... ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 27, 2009, 11:04:02 PM
Good Night Monkeys..... I am off searching....... ::MonkeyWink::

Good night, JG!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 11:08:44 PM
Good Night Monkeys..... I am off searching....... ::MonkeyWink::

Nite Jersey, I'm not far behind you.. the boys must have thrown the upstairs cat out of their room, she upstairs fussing about it..   About time to go upstairs.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 27, 2009, 11:12:02 PM
snipped     mlee....yep...that makes sense and goes with Marie's statement that she thought or had a feeling that Haleigh was in another state...I think that she may have even named the state IIRC....Myself, I thought it odd at the time and kindof piqued my hinky meter at the time...but could just be me...
I don't understand the delay in Crystal getting to Satsuma either....I would not even stop for a minute would you? would be out that door so darn fast...I wonder if she could have even called the police where she lives and gotten a police escort or an officer to drive her at top speed?

I believe Marie said alabama or georgia



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 27, 2009, 11:16:22 PM
Ok I am going to search for Cummings in other states.... ::MonkeyTongue::

ok...I live in Illinois...who would you like for me to investigate? I am officially a Monkey McTective now....in my own mind anyways....

First let's gather facts for a timeline.  the reason for Haleigh to go missing, has to be a parental issue.  Haleigh's wellbeing.   Something promoted this to occur.  It is not going to be money.  I think its possible that something about the weekend prior initiated this.  It's possible that the party weekend was a little bit too much for someone to handle, and it was a breaking point.   So, lets dig on that weekend with what we can find.  You notice Amber has said nothing. she could be the candle that lite the flame.

Two, I think we should gather as much information like grandparents, brothers sisters of the sheffields that live in other states..  Take your choice Cookie their is alot to go around..

Ok, according to a poster with the user name of Genva at itsamysterytome site who says she lives in the Satsuma area, Haleigh and Jr were with Crystal the weekend that Misty was out partying.

What day was it that Misty hooked up with Nay, Nay?

What day was it that Amber hooked up with Nay, Nay?

Was Amber communicating with Crystal before, after, or during the entire time of the partying?

What was the day that Amber borrowed Nay, Nay's car?

What was the day (night) that Lisa Brooks say she spotted Ron in the parking lot of Mary Brooks apt. complex?

now that is interesting..had not heard that before, nor had it occurred to me that Crystal had the kids while Misty was partying...I think that most/some of us had assumed that the grannys had filled in taking care of the kids while Misty was on her binge....very interesting indeed...
I don't think that is correct since IIRC Crystal said in a very early interview she had not seen the kids in three weeks


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 11:17:47 PM
snipped     mlee....yep...that makes sense and goes with Marie's statement that she thought or had a feeling that Haleigh was in another state...I think that she may have even named the state IIRC....Myself, I thought it odd at the time and kindof piqued my hinky meter at the time...but could just be me...
I don't understand the delay in Crystal getting to Satsuma either....I would not even stop for a minute would you? would be out that door so darn fast...I wonder if she could have even called the police where she lives and gotten a police escort or an officer to drive her at top speed?

I believe Marie said alabama or georgia



Yes, she sure did.. I thought that was an odd statement, and it crossed my mind, that she was talking with knowledge. She looked straight into the camera and I thought, that woman slipped up, she intended to lie and the truth came out instead.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 27, 2009, 11:19:16 PM
oops sorry I wasn't caught up before I felt to urge to post


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 11:24:41 PM
Actually Maureen, I thought she said two weeks, I could well be wrong.. that though lingered with me after the interview, and I thought why didn't you have them this weekend, since if it were two weeks then that should have been her weekend.  I'll find that video and post it, to make sure..  I went through all of those interviews, and at the end I still felt that they knew far more than they were telling. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 27, 2009, 11:24:41 PM
snipped     mlee....yep...that makes sense and goes with Marie's statement that she thought or had a feeling that Haleigh was in another state...I think that she may have even named the state IIRC....Myself, I thought it odd at the time and kindof piqued my hinky meter at the time...but could just be me...
I don't understand the delay in Crystal getting to Satsuma either....I would not even stop for a minute would you? would be out that door so darn fast...I wonder if she could have even called the police where she lives and gotten a police escort or an officer to drive her at top speed?

I believe Marie said alabama or georgia



Yes, she sure did.. I thought that was an odd statement, and it crossed my mind, that she was talking with knowledge. She looked straight into the camera and I thought, that woman slipped up, she intended to lie and the truth came out instead.

yes...I was surprised when she said what she said...and she did look straight into the camera..

Maureen...good to see you...

going to bed now Monkeys...been a long day...talk to you all tomorrow...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 11:26:07 PM
snipped     mlee....yep...that makes sense and goes with Marie's statement that she thought or had a feeling that Haleigh was in another state...I think that she may have even named the state IIRC....Myself, I thought it odd at the time and kindof piqued my hinky meter at the time...but could just be me...
I don't understand the delay in Crystal getting to Satsuma either....I would not even stop for a minute would you? would be out that door so darn fast...I wonder if she could have even called the police where she lives and gotten a police escort or an officer to drive her at top speed?

I believe Marie said alabama or georgia



Yes, she sure did.. I thought that was an odd statement, and it crossed my mind, that she was talking with knowledge. She looked straight into the camera and I thought, that woman slipped up, she intended to lie and the truth came out instead.

yes...I was surprised when she said what she said...and she did look straight into the camera..

Maureen...good to see you...

going to bed now Monkeys...been a long day...talk to you all tomorrow...

Good night Cookie..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 27, 2009, 11:28:12 PM
snipped     mlee....yep...that makes sense and goes with Marie's statement that she thought or had a feeling that Haleigh was in another state...I think that she may have even named the state IIRC....Myself, I thought it odd at the time and kindof piqued my hinky meter at the time...but could just be me...
I don't understand the delay in Crystal getting to Satsuma either....I would not even stop for a minute would you? would be out that door so darn fast...I wonder if she could have even called the police where she lives and gotten a police escort or an officer to drive her at top speed?

I believe Marie said alabama or georgia



Yes, she sure did.. I thought that was an odd statement, and it crossed my mind, that she was talking with knowledge. She looked straight into the camera and I thought, that woman slipped up, she intended to lie and the truth came out instead.

yes...I was surprised when she said what she said...and she did look straight into the camera..

Maureen...good to see you...

going to bed now Monkeys...been a long day...talk to you all tomorrow...

Good night, cookie.

I am gonna raise my hand on this one too. I thought it was odd that she calmly suggested that maybe she was in another state as well. Very odd.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 27, 2009, 11:29:10 PM
O/T Body in Des Plaines River Wasn't Peterson Or Stebic

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Remains-Found-in-Des-Plaines-River-Not-Peterson-Stebic.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 11:33:33 PM
oops sorry I wasn't caught up before I felt to urge to post

That weekend thing doesn't make sense at all does it, she gets them every other weekend, so if she had not seen them for three weeks that means she was well over due.   The way it should be set up.. if she has them every other weekend, then if she was to have them on the coming weekend, she would have or should have had them the weekend before misty went to party.  Which means she should have had them Jan 30, 31 and returned them on the 1st.  Now, if by chance she had them the weekend of the 6, 7 and returned them on the 8th, then she would have had them 3 weeks prior.  Could have been a slip up.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 27, 2009, 11:35:37 PM
snipped     mlee....yep...that makes sense and goes with Marie's statement that she thought or had a feeling that Haleigh was in another state...I think that she may have even named the state IIRC....Myself, I thought it odd at the time and kindof piqued my hinky meter at the time...but could just be me...
I don't understand the delay in Crystal getting to Satsuma either....I would not even stop for a minute would you? would be out that door so darn fast...I wonder if she could have even called the police where she lives and gotten a police escort or an officer to drive her at top speed?

I believe Marie said alabama or georgia



Yes, she sure did.. I thought that was an odd statement, and it crossed my mind, that she was talking with knowledge. She looked straight into the camera and I thought, that woman slipped up, she intended to lie and the truth came out instead.

yes...I was surprised when she said what she said...and she did look straight into the camera..

Maureen...good to see you...

going to bed now Monkeys...been a long day...talk to you all tomorrow...
thanks cookie~ I was just off signing the petition for Tori's law and commenting on the bonnie sweeten fiasco geez, that's local news for me, I don't get it...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 11:36:08 PM
snipped     mlee....yep...that makes sense and goes with Marie's statement that she thought or had a feeling that Haleigh was in another state...I think that she may have even named the state IIRC....Myself, I thought it odd at the time and kindof piqued my hinky meter at the time...but could just be me...
I don't understand the delay in Crystal getting to Satsuma either....I would not even stop for a minute would you? would be out that door so darn fast...I wonder if she could have even called the police where she lives and gotten a police escort or an officer to drive her at top speed?

I believe Marie said alabama or georgia



Yes, she sure did.. I thought that was an odd statement, and it crossed my mind, that she was talking with knowledge. She looked straight into the camera and I thought, that woman slipped up, she intended to lie and the truth came out instead.

yes...I was surprised when she said what she said...and she did look straight into the camera..

Maureen...good to see you...

going to bed now Monkeys...been a long day...talk to you all tomorrow...

Good night, cookie.

I am gonna raise my hand on this one too. I thought it was odd that she calmly suggested that maybe she was in another state as well. Very odd.

When you go through their interviews, you find so many little things that don't make sense.  And their body motions are so odd.  I have watched her dab her eyes so many many times, and never seen one tear.. That has bothered me alot.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 27, 2009, 11:38:32 PM
I've found one Perry Miller listing in Dallas, TX and three Glenda Miller's in Dalls also.
Not sure what is ok to post or not.

We are not restricted from posting names.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

P.M. is on Intelius.com, his middle is Bradley, relative is G.M. the same one on Peoplefinders #27.
Myles Sykes, obituary, listed Glenda Miller as a sister, and when I looked her up on Peoplefinders.com  #27,
Glenda Sykes Miller.  Now is she the sister? All the names match. P.B.M. husband? He may be the one that is from Tenn.
a guess.  Dallas is one city on her list of cities past and present? I just want to be discreet a little:)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 11:42:39 PM
O/T

State Police: Remains in Des Plaines River not Stacy Peterson or Lisa Stebic


http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1594722,w-des-plaines-river-body-052709.article


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 27, 2009, 11:43:44 PM
oops sorry I wasn't caught up before I felt to urge to post

That weekend thing doesn't make sense at all does it, she gets them every other weekend, so if she had not seen them for three weeks that means she was well over due.   The way it should be set up.. if she has them every other weekend, then if she was to have them on the coming weekend, she would have or should have had them the weekend before misty went to party.  Which means she should have had them Jan 30, 31 and returned them on the 1st.  Now, if by chance she had them the weekend of the 6, 7 and returned them on the 8th, then she would have had them 3 weeks prior.  Could have been a slip up.
it's more of the missing information I so wish we had...I don't know why it hasn't been disclosed what was going on with the kids the weekend prior, although it's not surprising since so much is kept from the public in this case. That is just sooo strange since generally LE asks for the public's help.... I am so frustrated with this investigation that I have to sit quietly and just read here so as not to mouth off. All we ever hear is it's so close to being solved, LE knows lots and keeps it close so leaks won't ruin future arrests, give me a break! when do they intend on finding this child? it's no good if it's 12 or so years from now!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 27, 2009, 11:45:48 PM
Lookie what I found.

http://www.realestate.countyclerk.dallascounty.org/detail.aspx?doc=199800338195&ms=0&n=199800338195

If it shows a fatal error with java just click ok.

Here is Perry Bradley Miller and Glenda Miller right here in Dallas records. I think y'all must have missed this post.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 11:47:22 PM
O/T

State Police: Remains in Des Plaines River not Stacy Peterson or Lisa Stebic


http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1594722,w-des-plaines-river-body-052709.article

I saw it earlier on the news.. I hate to say this but I am disappointed in a way.. Was hoping they would be able to charge him with the second murder.  You know, that when Stacy was a teen, several years before she married him, he was married and dating Stacy's sister (the one who died with cancer), the girls Mother walked out of their home with Bible in hand, on her way to Church. And disappeared......  I think drew peterson is a serial killer.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 27, 2009, 11:49:54 PM
Lookie what I found.

http://www.realestate.countyclerk.dallascounty.org/detail.aspx?doc=199800338195&ms=0&n=199800338195

If it shows a fatal error with java just click ok.

Here is Perry Bradley Miller and Glenda Miller right here in Dallas records. I think y'all must have missed this post.

Type in Miller Perry
Document number is 199800338195


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 27, 2009, 11:52:34 PM
Heart, I can answer another one of your questions:

"What was the day (night) that Lisa Brooks say she spotted Ron in the parking lot of Mary Brooks apt. complex?"

From my timeline notes:

"Indeed, just before 10 p.m. Sunday night, April 19, according to a 911 call my source heard on a police scanner, Brooks’ grandmother called the Putnam County Sheriff’s dispatcher to report Cummings had pulled up outside her house in his purple Nissan Ultima and sent Haleigh’s little brother, Junior, to her door to ask for his little brother, Jordan."

Thanks Brandi.

Goodnight all.  It is time for me to turn in as well.

Prayers for good news on Haleigh on tomorrow!



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 27, 2009, 11:52:42 PM
oops sorry I wasn't caught up before I felt to urge to post

That weekend thing doesn't make sense at all does it, she gets them every other weekend, so if she had not seen them for three weeks that means she was well over due.   The way it should be set up.. if she has them every other weekend, then if she was to have them on the coming weekend, she would have or should have had them the weekend before misty went to party.  Which means she should have had them Jan 30, 31 and returned them on the 1st.  Now, if by chance she had them the weekend of the 6, 7 and returned them on the 8th, then she would have had them 3 weeks prior.  Could have been a slip up.
it's more of the missing information I so wish we had...I don't know why it hasn't been disclosed what was going on with the kids the weekend prior, although it's not surprising since so much is kept from the public in this case. That is just sooo strange since generally LE asks for the public's help.... I am so frustrated with this investigation that I have to sit quietly and just read here so as not to mouth off. All we ever hear is it's so close to being solved, LE knows lots and keeps it close so leaks won't ruin future arrests, give me a break! when do they intend on finding this child? it's no good if it's 12 or so years from now!

Well the families seem to be fading away..  maybe the word should be pulling away.   Someone in the neighborhood should have seen the children.. if they were with Grandma Sykes, why wouldn't that have come out in an interview.  Maybe they all thought it wasn't important, but it well could be a very important element in this. 

Good to talk to you Maureen, haven't seen you much lately.. this ole Monkey is going upstair. Hope to visit with you tomorrow.. Good night.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 27, 2009, 11:56:21 PM
Lookie what I found.

http://www.realestate.countyclerk.dallascounty.org/detail.aspx?doc=199800338195&ms=0&n=199800338195

If it shows a fatal error with java just click ok.

Here is Perry Bradley Miller and Glenda Miller right here in Dallas records. I think y'all must have missed this post.

Type in Miller Perry
Document number is 199800338195
I was finally able to open up the official document and I am seeing that it is saying that this Glenda Miller was Glenda Smith at some point and it is also showing Perry B. Miller.
???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 27, 2009, 11:56:55 PM
the number one problem I have with the "taken by a family member" and is hidden in another state is, why would Jr be left behind?? I think that if someone was driven to that extereme where they felt it in the best interest to remove the child from that environment they would risk waking the passed out babysitter and take both children. I can't understand any reasoning they wold leave one behind, it just doesn't make sense to me. and on another note, I would think if someone did feel they were acting in the child's best interest, when the search became the focus of so much publicity they would have come forward since to be driven to such a decision makes you think it's someone with a good heart who could not stand the circumstances the children were living under. It's hard to believe someone with this thought process could stand by and watch this circus without losing their mind.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 27, 2009, 11:57:40 PM
goodnight mlee, sweet and peaceful dreams!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 27, 2009, 11:58:08 PM
Lookie what I found.

http://www.realestate.countyclerk.dallascounty.org/detail.aspx?doc=199800338195&ms=0&n=199800338195

If it shows a fatal error with java just click ok.

Here is Perry Bradley Miller and Glenda Miller right here in Dallas records. I think y'all must have missed this post.

Type in Miller Perry
Document number is 199800338195
I was finally able to open up the official document and I am seeing that it is saying that this Glenda Miller was Glenda Smith at some point and it is also showing Perry B. Miller.
???
Correction Glenda S. Smith


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 28, 2009, 12:10:06 AM
MILLER, GLENDA  SYKES (Age 70)
MORRISON, MARTHA  E (Age 59)
MILLER, GLENDA  F

I've also found a Glenda F. Miller in Dallas also.
So then if Perry Bradley Miller and Glenda S. (Sykes) Miller are married then could Glenda F. Perry be their Daughter or?
 ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on May 28, 2009, 12:15:56 AM
I've got to go to bed too! see you in the morning.... goodknight all you great people!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 28, 2009, 12:29:23 AM
I've got to go to bed too! see you in the morning.... goodknight all you great people!
Goodnight Maureen.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 28, 2009, 07:13:40 AM
the number one problem I have with the "taken by a family member" and is hidden in another state is, why would Jr be left behind?? I think that if someone was driven to that extereme where they felt it in the best interest to remove the child from that environment they would risk waking the passed out babysitter and take both children. I can't understand any reasoning they wold leave one behind, it just doesn't make sense to me. and on another note, I would think if someone did feel they were acting in the child's best interest, when the search became the focus of so much publicity they would have come forward since to be driven to such a decision makes you think it's someone with a good heart who could not stand the circumstances the children were living under. It's hard to believe someone with this thought process could stand by and watch this circus without losing their mind.

I still think it has to do with where he was sleeping.  To grab Junior, mean't having to wake misty.
Here is a layout of the home, it was created by a news crew.
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/cummings.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2009, 07:33:58 AM
I agree that Ron Jr. was probably not taken because of where he was sleeping, supposedly with Misty...would have been harder to reach.....if we are to believe that it was a family member who took Haleigh...I am not leaning towards a family member taking Haleigh for any reason except something that I don't want to think about...however, I am open to listen and to embrace that idea cause it could be true, and also, it would mean that Haleigh is still alive, which I believe....My feeling is that it was someone, possibly a distant family member, possibly a neighbor who watched the home and the family, especially Haleigh...<<shivers>>> and made his/her move to take Haleigh when Misty was out of the house..or she could have been passed out from her weekend of partying....
at this time none of us know what happened to Haleigh so any thing and any theory is possible...
We do know that Misty was the last person to have seen Haleigh before she disappeared....she needs to talk and tell the LE whatever she knows...How can she live with herself? she is the key to the timeline....imo....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: little lulu on May 28, 2009, 07:40:19 AM
Good Morning Monkeys,

Was hoping for good news this morning.  Trying to play catch up here and read back almost 10 pages...when is HH coming back...was she going to spend the night there? 
I am so impressed someone from the Monkeys is actually going there and bringing us firsthand photos and information.
 
Am just sick there is no news and little Haleigh is fading off the new's, sadly I think LE is no where close to solving this case. 

I dreamed about Haleigh the other night, and that tells me am going to have to back off....I just don't understand LE in this case,  are they like the ones involved here...are they relatives?  Nothing makes any sense from this town.


God Bless Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 28, 2009, 08:17:14 AM


still...don't you think that it was an odd comment to make right when Haleigh was missing? she said it almost like she was sure about it and that Haleigh was safe...dunno..that is the way I took it anyway...
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Cookie, trying to not stack up, but not sure if it's going to work when I try to just get your post out  (and I'll bet my thighs are bigger than your thighs! )  Anyway, do you remember WHEN Marie said that...I know it was in one of the first blips we saw of the family....I'd like to see it again.  And also don't remember hearing her say she thought Haleigh was safe...and that folks, is something I'd like to watch all over again!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 28, 2009, 08:29:31 AM
I've found one Perry Miller listing in Dallas, TX and three Glenda Miller's in Dalls also.
Not sure what is ok to post or not.

Total Distance: 27.4 mi Perry Miller from me.

There are actually 5 different Glenda Millers listed in the Dallas, Tx area.

We found this past week that Grandma Sykes was born in Dallas.

Approximately 195 Sykes listed in the DFW metroplex area, and that is not even counting all the little suburbs. Which if they are the older generation and lived on an acre or more, farms, etc., they probably will be in the suburbs. 

I live an hour outside of Dallas and I promise no one would ever ever find me out here.  Local sheriff had a hard time finding me.  :(  So yes, I would assume further outside of Dallas.  There's all these little towns down here Heart...you're in Texas, you know.  We've got Palmer and Ennis and Coriscana and Maypearl and Italy and Milford and Midlothian and that's just within twenty minutes of me, but far enough away from Dallas to be "country". 

I don't think it's just here, but people in these towns have no idea what's really going on.  I mean, they don't know Haleigh is still missing.  They always assume she was found when they don't hear about it on the local news anymore.  I mention it at work and everyone just looks at me dumbfounded and I WORK in Dallas!   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2009, 08:30:06 AM


still...don't you think that it was an odd comment to make right when Haleigh was missing? she said it almost like she was sure about it and that Haleigh was safe...dunno..that is the way I took it anyway...

Cookie, trying to not stack up, but not sure if it's going to work when I try to just get your post out  (and I'll bet my thighs are bigger than your thighs! )  Anyway, do you remember WHEN Marie said that...I know it was in one of the first blips we saw of the family....I'd like to see it again.  And also don't remember hearing her say she thought Haleigh was safe...and that folks, is something I'd like to watch all over again!
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Thunder...how are ya?
yes...IIRC, it was one of the first clips that we saw of the family...she was very matter of fact...
I thought that Mlee was going back to visit this clip so maybe she has it handy...otherwise Brandi usually has her notes...I will try to find it...I don't think that she specifically said that she felt that Haleigh was safe in another state...it was her demeanor I suppose that made me think that she wasn't too worried about it at the time...now I am curious all over again...will try to find it...
xxxxx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 28, 2009, 08:35:08 AM
Good morning and good to see you here too!  Curious is right.  I'm curious to look at it three months later with fresh eyes.  When I watched Ronald with Geraldo again, my feelings about it had changed.  Not sure why, but they had.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 28, 2009, 08:41:28 AM
I agree that Ron Jr. was probably not taken because of where he was sleeping, supposedly with Misty...would have been harder to reach.....if we are to believe that it was a family member who took Haleigh...I am not leaning towards a family member taking Haleigh for any reason except something that I don't want to think about...however, I am open to listen and to embrace that idea cause it could be true, and also, it would mean that Haleigh is still alive, which I believe....My feeling is that it was someone, possibly a distant family member, possibly a neighbor who watched the home and the family, especially Haleigh...<<shivers>>> and made his/her move to take Haleigh when Misty was out of the house..or she could have been passed out from her weekend of partying....
at this time none of us know what happened to Haleigh so any thing and any theory is possible...
We do know that Misty was the last person to have seen Haleigh before she disappeared....she needs to talk and tell the LE whatever she knows...How can she live with herself? she is the key to the timeline....imo....

Good morning Cookie..  I have gone over that a thousand times in my mind.. I think one of the family members got riled up about something.  It is possible they thought the children were not safe or taken care of,  It could be to punish Ron for keeping Misty after that weekend.  I personally believe with little details we have, like the thought of this being a prank, the details of untruths coming out.  I wonder if, they left Ron a note telling him what was done.. This in their mind would have shown ron misty was irresponsible..  But, the note not found until the Le was called, and all hell was breaking loose.  And then this whole thing blew sky high.  Looking at the elements, of a report that Haleigh had been seen about an hour and a half prior to Misty waking up.. What is Misty was really awake and fussing with Ron about the past weekend, him calling to make sure she was at home, and realized Haleigh was gone.. 2:30 in the morning. That would put Haleigh last sighting about 12:00 to 12:30... Misty feel sound to sleep, and the arrival of whomever between 12:00 midnight and 2:00.  Okay, if the trip back to Glen St. Mary's takes at least 2 hours, then you have her arriving back to that location about the same time Marie was notified.  Not Crystal notified, Marie.. Why not Crystal??
So, they think.. Hey whats going on here, is this a prank.. we left a note.. Ron knows where she is..  They are messing with us, threatening to call the police.. So, they send Johnny over to the house, and he reports back.. hey its no prank, Le is all over the place.  So, they are back in Glen St. Mary's with Haleigh, and terrified to get caught with her.. So, what do we do with Haleigh.. We get her out of here, and as far away as possible. So, they stall the return to Satsuma, until Haleigh is safely out of state and in a location with Family.  Which would give all the different bits and pieces, all Ron actually had to say was "I was at Work", no lie.. proven fact.. He just didn't finish it, and if questioned about his knowlege prior to calling Le, hey he would be telling the truth. He would not have known until after LE was notified and he found the note.  Now, Misty.. she would be guilty of the past weekend, cheating on Ron.. Having used drugs, and just falling out that night. But, the only thing she knows is that she put the kids to bed, and woke up from Ron's phone call, and then realized Haleigh was gone. Anything else she knows, was told to her by Ron..  Would either one know where Haleigh is.. Not really, I doubt that the Family member who took Haleigh or arranged her location to stay would give that info out to anyone but direct family members.  I still believe that Crystal's seizures are probably not from drugs, but from absolute terror and stress of going to prison.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2009, 08:46:48 AM
Good morning and good to see you here too!  Curious is right.  I'm curious to look at it three months later with fresh eyes.  When I watched Ronald with Geraldo again, my feelings about it had changed.  Not sure why, but they had.

just looked for the video...no luck...
in what way have your feelings towards Ron changed after watching the video with Geraldo?
my feeling is that Ron expected Geraldo to be there to try to raise awareness of Haleigh's disappearance and was completely ambushed by Geraldo in front of everyone watching the show...I think that Ron handled himself a lot better than others might have if faced with the same treatment...just my opinion...now would like to hear your opinion...
xxxx 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 28, 2009, 08:47:45 AM
Mlee, we always go back to why Jr. wasn't taken. 
There's the possibility that someone was caught in the middle of trying to get the kids out, there's the possibility that they couldn't reach over Misty, there's the possibility that just one child would make the statement it was intended to by the abduction. 

What about Jr. being grandmas baby?  You know, the little boy, so like Ronald as a child.  Maybe everyone knows Grandma Neves is going to take care of little Ronald no matter what...?

When I was little, my mother was going through a divorce with my dad.  Lots of drugs and alcohol, all kinds of crap.  My mother had three children under age 5.  She took me to live with my grandmother because it was too hard with all three kids.  To this day I do not know if she couldn't afford all of us, or if it was just easier, or what.  But I will tell you this, I left my mothers house and remember my daddy coming to my grandmas to tell me good bye, and he was crying and I couldn't understand.  I lived with my grandmother for four and half years.  Granny loved me, oh she did.  And then one day, out of the blue, my mother came and took me back and it was, let's just say that everything I did was wrong.  My mother was a hard woman.  My grandmother called 18 lawyers, trying to find a way to get me back.  My mother moved us all to Colorado with her new husband (that I didn't even know) anyway, long story short, there was nothing my granny could do about it.  So I'm just wondering, maybe someone thought Jr. would be just fine....?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2009, 08:51:04 AM
mlee.....all very good theories that you have there...like I say, anything is possible..
when you lay it out the way that you did, it makes sense that it could have happened that way...

do you know how to find that video where Marie is talking about Haleigh being out of state? we want to view it again...I tried for a while to find it googling Marie's name...came up with pages of stuff but I must need to be more specific in my search as I kept going through the wrong articles...thanks...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2009, 08:51:23 AM
Good Morning monkeys and guests!

Ok we have all ponder what happened to Haleigh. I don't think that a well-meaning family member is in possession of Haleigh.  A well-meaning family member would have attempted to get custody of both children and would have gone about it within the proper channels.

 The following are various reasons that have ran through my head:

1)  A setup by Amber and Lisa Brooks (both had an ax to grind with both Misty and Ron) (rumored to be family members)

2)  Haleigh was hurt/accidentally killed during a fight between Misty and Ron. (But when, the time line as we know it now complicates that.) But may be one of the reasons for their marriage.

3) A sex offender

4) A drug debt


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2009, 08:53:37 AM
Thunder...bless your granny...is she still around? she sounds like quite a woman...

my heart would be torn out if my grand daughter was taken from me...she is my heart!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2009, 08:56:18 AM
Good Morning monkeys and guests!

Ok we have all ponder what happened to Haleigh. I don't think that a well-meaning family member is in possession of Haleigh.  A well-meaning family member would have attempted to get custody of both children and would have gone about it within the proper channels.

 The following are various reasons that have ran through my head:

1)  A setup by Amber and Lisa Brooks (both had an ax to grind with both Misty and Ron) (rumored to be family members)

2)  Haleigh was hurt/accidentally killed during a fight between Misty and Ron. (But when, the time line as we know it now complicates that.) But may be one of the reasons for their marriage.

3) A sex offender

4) A drug debt

Heart...all plausible ....

Except #2...I don't  think that happened...jmo....there would be some sortof evidence left behind wouldn't there?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: alagary on May 28, 2009, 09:13:17 AM
mlees' map got me to remember that about 2 months ago I noticed someone ( sorry ,can't remember who ) lived in Wetumpka Al. It's only ten miles from Montgomery . I tried the search up top but nothing comes up . Any idea ?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2009, 09:18:32 AM
Good Morning monkeys and guests!

Ok we have all ponder what happened to Haleigh. I don't think that a well-meaning family member is in possession of Haleigh.  A well-meaning family member would have attempted to get custody of both children and would have gone about it within the proper channels.

 The following are various reasons that have ran through my head:

1)  A setup by Amber and Lisa Brooks (both had an ax to grind with both Misty and Ron) (rumored to be family members)

2)  Haleigh was hurt/accidentally killed during a fight between Misty and Ron. (But when, the time line as we know it now complicates that.) But may be one of the reasons for their marriage.

3) A sex offender

4) A drug debt

Heart...all plausible ....

Except #2...I don't  think that happened...jmo....there would be some sortof evidence left behind wouldn't there?
Not necessarily cookie.  Does not Haleigh have breathing problems.  Could have hit her head on something, not leaving blood, etc.

This is not my main (theory) but just one that has run across my mind.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2009, 09:22:55 AM
Heart....like I say, anything is possible with this bunch...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2009, 09:25:34 AM
#215  Art Harris Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 11:52 pm

It’s a shame/tbird==
In response to your question about crystal and back child support. In fact, a mystery donor from Texas sent Crystal a check to be usd only for child support, to help get her out of the hole. According to Kim Picazio, her lawyer, ’she received $4,100 and paid some of the arrears, yes. … Crystal never saw the $$ “It was deposited into Picazio’s trust account, then to the Central Depository, then right to Ron. He’s richer today than last month,’” Picazio tells The Bald Truth in an exclusive interview tonight.
——Original Message——

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/#comments


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 28, 2009, 09:26:57 AM
Good morning and good to see you here too!  Curious is right.  I'm curious to look at it three months later with fresh eyes.  When I watched Ronald with Geraldo again, my feelings about it had changed.  Not sure why, but they had.

just looked for the video...no luck...
in what way have your feelings towards Ron changed after watching the video with Geraldo?
my feeling is that Ron expected Geraldo to be there to try to raise awareness of Haleigh's disappearance and was completely ambushed by Geraldo in front of everyone watching the show...I think that Ron handled himself a lot better than others might have if faced with the same treatment...just my opinion...now would like to hear your opinion...
xxxx 

My feelings about Ron have always been the same, But from the first time we started looking around and checking rumors about the Grandmother making that statement about Georgia and Alabama, and I found it was Marie.. And the whole thing started falling into place.. You see no one would even consider this was a parent abduction.  I believed that Ron was more abusive to the kids than necessary, and he has a instant temper.  Now, all of this is part of what caused Haleigh to go missing..   We have to remember,  all of these factors, allegations of abuse, the drug issues, the misty issues all built the fire.  But, I believe Misty's weekend was what finally issue that made the twig snap.   We have spent more time arguing about Ron and Misty and not taking the time to really look at the clues we have.  I developed my Theory about the Parental Abduction 6 weeks ago. And it is basically the same now, as it was then. While we were arguing about Ron on the site,  I have been searching for Haleigh on my own with the Sheffields.  I sent my Theory to the Le, that same tuesday afternoon, that the Sheriff gave his interview, stating that the conflict between the families was causing an interference in the investigation.  And with Cobra searching more for a Body in my mind than a living child, everybody was looking at the same elements. I have never thought that Haleigh was dead.  That's why I went back and went through every interview with Crystal and Marie.  But, to really come out and talk about it, my fear was that the situation in Satsuma was critical at that time, and if put out there, it might be construded as a reality and Ron would go after the Sheffields and the mess would have blown up like an atomic bomb going off.   Think about Ron's comments to two people, Chad and Marcus..  He directly told both of them, I am 75 per cent sure, that I know where Haleigh is.. A statement he later denied. But, he was telling both of them, hey guys.. I know where you guys took Haleigh, I know the familes too.   Another, comment and I have repeated this several times.  Marie at a vigil at the tents, Crystal is cradled in her Arms, Tears rolling down Marie's face and she say's.. " I know that Haleigh is missing her Daddy",  I thought.. WHAT..  Missing her Daddy?  Why wouldn't she be missing both her Mommy and Daddy.  Somethings its the little statements people slip up saying, that start to fill in the puzzle.  So, from the beginning.. I haven't been on either side, I just see the flaws in both sides.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 28, 2009, 09:30:31 AM
the number one problem I have with the "taken by a family member" and is hidden in another state is, why would Jr be left behind?? I think that if someone was driven to that extereme where they felt it in the best interest to remove the child from that environment they would risk waking the passed out babysitter and take both children. I can't understand any reasoning they wold leave one behind, it just doesn't make sense to me. and on another note, I would think if someone did feel they were acting in the child's best interest, when the search became the focus of so much publicity they would have come forward since to be driven to such a decision makes you think it's someone with a good heart who could not stand the circumstances the children were living under. It's hard to believe someone with this thought process could stand by and watch this circus without losing their mind.
I agree with you, and what about doctor visits and such, someone would get suspicious, at least I would think so.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2009, 09:31:05 AM
#215  Art Harris Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 11:52 pm

It’s a shame/tbird==
In response to your question about crystal and back child support. In fact, a mystery donor from Texas sent Crystal a check to be usd only for child support, to help get her out of the hole. According to Kim Picazio, her lawyer, ’she received $4,100 and paid some of the arrears, yes. … Crystal never saw the $$ “It was deposited into Picazio’s trust account, then to the Central Depository, then right to Ron. He’s richer today than last month,’” Picazio tells The Bald Truth in an exclusive interview tonight.
——Original Message——

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/#comments


yeah, well so is Crystal since her debt got paid by someone else..
I am sure that ron could have used the money all along in trying to support the kids...Kim doesn't need to make it sound as if he hit the lottery or something..this was money owed to him by the bio mom for the support of their children...you know how kids like to eat and have clothes on them when they go to school, have to go to see doctors etc......annoying little things like that that costs money, Kim... ::MonkeyConfused:: 
Crystal has probably made out better financially than Ron has in this whole fiasco...more sympathizers for her than for Ron...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 28, 2009, 09:33:54 AM
alagary ~  Checked out the Wetumpka, AL search on www.whitepages.com and put in Sheffields.  Do any of these ring a bell??

Beth A Sheffieldhome
225 Mountain Meadows Ln
Wetumpka, AL 36093-3859
(334) 514-0719

Listing Details
Household: Kenneth E Sheffield


•Chad G Sheffieldhome

338 Meadowview Dr

Wetumpka, AL 36092-4169

(334) 514-6412


Household: Kendra D Sheffield, Chadrick Sheffiel

338 Meadowview Dr

Wetumpka, AL 36092-4169

(334) 514-6412


View Beth Sheffield's Profile •Christopher B Sheffieldhome

103 Cardinal Ct

Wetumpka, AL 36092-6983

(334) 569-3906

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Age: 30-34

Household: Michelle R Sheffield
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View Beth Sheffield's Profile •Elaine C Sheffieldhome

203 Richard Rd

Wetumpka, AL 36092-3028

(334) 567-8812

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Household: Howard L Sheffield
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View Beth Sheffield's Profile •Howard L Sheffieldhome

203 Richard Rd

Wetumpka, AL 36092-3028

(334) 567-8812

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Age: 65+

Household: Elaine C Sheffield
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View Beth Sheffield's Profile •Kendra D Sheffieldhome

338 Meadowview Dr

Wetumpka, AL 36092-4169

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Age: 35-39

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View Beth Sheffield's Profile •Kenneth E Sheffieldhome

225 Mountain Meadows Ln

Wetumpka, AL 36093-3859

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Household: Beth A Sheffield
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View Beth Sheffield's Profile •Michelle R Sheffieldhome

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2009, 09:36:55 AM
mlee...I too see the flaws on both sides of this family..none of them have clean hands as far as I am concerned...

In regards to the statement that Ron made about being 75% sure that he knew where Haleigh was, Crystal had said on tv that he had told Chad that...but later retracted it and said that it was a misunderstanding...so, not sure how much credence we can give to that one...however, you could be right in that Ron was trying to convey a message to them that he knew what they had done....
but like I said, Crystal later retracted it so who knows...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 28, 2009, 09:38:07 AM
the number one problem I have with the "taken by a family member" and is hidden in another state is, why would Jr be left behind?? I think that if someone was driven to that extereme where they felt it in the best interest to remove the child from that environment they would risk waking the passed out babysitter and take both children. I can't understand any reasoning they wold leave one behind, it just doesn't make sense to me. and on another note, I would think if someone did feel they were acting in the child's best interest, when the search became the focus of so much publicity they would have come forward since to be driven to such a decision makes you think it's someone with a good heart who could not stand the circumstances the children were living under. It's hard to believe someone with this thought process could stand by and watch this circus without losing their mind.
I agree with you, and what about doctor visits and such, someone would get suspicious, at least I would think so.

It's the same thing,  she could be with a relative that has a signed statment giving authorization for her treatment.  This takes someone to sign the form, and someone who is a notary to put the seal on.. Look at this vast family, I guarentee something like that either accompanied Haleigh, or was mailed to the person who has her..  Taking her to a Doctor,  she may be going under a different name, they have authorization for her treatment.. Pay cash for the bill.. No one in that Clinic is going to ask any questions.  Other than, about her turners syndrome if they even tell the doctor that, she may only have to need her medications, for what might be thought to be ashma.  She may go to different clinic's, never the same one twice.  Do they really look at a child and think< " Hey that's Haleigh?"   No, they stay so busy, it might cross their mind, but they may have seen 5 other girls that day that might have looked like Haleigh.  And, being in another state..  would not be the same as in Florida.. If there is a will, there is a way..  Got to remember, Connie Sheffield is a nurse, at the hospital.  That speaks volumn's.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 28, 2009, 09:38:09 AM
There are also 2 pages of Johns in Wetumpka, AL, plus Sykes as well.

D Sykeshome

225 Woodhaven Ln

Wetumpka, AL
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Household: A Sykes
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 •Duncan E Sykeshome

1016 Marshell Rd

Wetumpka, AL 36093-3525

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 •Isadora Sykeshome

PO Box 341D

Wetumpka, AL 36092-0006

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 •Jean S Sykeshome

8435 Balm Rd

Wetumpka, AL 36092-6732

(334) 541-4829

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 28, 2009, 09:46:50 AM
There are also 3 Cummings, 1 Squires, 4 Neves in Wetumpka, AL.

Remember the LE dispatch transmissions. There was at one point that the LE were at 116 Tyler St.  We never actually found out why they were at Tyler.  Woman heard screaming at 2:30, Cousin Joe staying with the Croslins on Tyler.

Just thinking, maybe Misty and the kids had been at Tyler, something happened there, and then she came home in time to meet Ron.  So, everything checked at the MH....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 28, 2009, 09:48:50 AM
#215  Art Harris Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 11:52 pm

It’s a shame/tbird==
In response to your question about crystal and back child support. In fact, a mystery donor from Texas sent Crystal a check to be usd only for child support, to help get her out of the hole. According to Kim Picazio, her lawyer, ’she received $4,100 and paid some of the arrears, yes. … Crystal never saw the $$ “It was deposited into Picazio’s trust account, then to the Central Depository, then right to Ron. He’s richer today than last month,’” Picazio tells The Bald Truth in an exclusive interview tonight.
——Original Message——

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/#comments


yeah, well so is Crystal since her debt got paid by someone else..
I am sure that ron could have used the money all along in trying to support the kids...Kim doesn't need to make it sound as if he hit the lottery or something..this was money owed to him by the bio mom for the support of their children...you know how kids like to eat and have clothes on them when they go to school, have to go to see doctors etc......annoying little things like that that costs money, Kim... ::MonkeyConfused:: 
Crystal has probably made out better financially than Ron has in this whole fiasco...more sympathizers for her than for Ron...


Remember the little game put out by Simon and Cobra and Art on the BNN about following the trail of money..  This is what I think may have happened.  Crystal had acquired money to give to Ronald, part payment of child support.. He's out of work, needs the money.. she owes it, and he knows that she knows, don't piss him off, because he can still tell everything he knows. 

So, Crystal and Kim have a little attorney - client talk.. Crystal needs to get Ron the money, but can't just go up and hand it to him, can't send it either by mail.. too many hands in the post office. 

So, Crystal gives Cobra the cash to give Kim,  but.. Kim either not thinking or whatever reason, told Cobra go ahead and use that money for the bond for the girls.. we need the girls out, clearing their heads and we need to know, what they know.. Especially, Amber.. Or what ever Amber has told Nay Nay..  So Cobra uses the money.  Which means, Kim doesn't arrange to give Ron the Money, he and Crystal had agreed upon.  So, Crystal find's out from Ron.. Hey, no money..  Crystal goes after Cobra, and they have it out..  Cobra goes to Kim, and kim goes back to Crystal and tries to resolve the issue....   Then, the issue of Money being arranged by Crystal and Kim that was given to Cobra.. I think a calming thing, here is your money.. lets be buddies again. Didn't work.  Did Ron get the money he and Crystal would have Agreed upon??  Don't know, but do know Ron would be upset...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 28, 2009, 09:54:19 AM
There are also 3 Cummings, 1 Squires, 4 Neves in Wetumpka, AL.

Remember the LE dispatch transmissions. There was at one point that the LE were at 116 Tyler St.  We never actually found out why they were at Tyler.  Woman heard screaming at 2:30, Cousin Joe staying with the Croslins on Tyler.

Just thinking, maybe Misty and the kids had been at Tyler, something happened there, and then she came home in time to meet Ron.  So, everything checked at the MH....

The only thing that would worry me about this.. Junior would have been awake with them, and he would have said something, maybe not to his Mom, but to Great Grandma.. I do believe she has been the kids rock.. Watching the Christmas Video, the kids are glowing talking to her.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 28, 2009, 09:55:47 AM
www.firstcoastnews.com has a lot of the original videos still up on their website.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 28, 2009, 09:59:15 AM
mlees' map got me to remember that about 2 months ago I noticed someone ( sorry ,can't remember who ) lived in Wetumpka Al. It's only ten miles from Montgomery . I tried the search up top but nothing comes up . Any idea ?

Alagary,
 Could this be it?   If it's not I would suggest searching in the High profile Missing archives thread.  The box only searches the thread you are currently in I believe.
 -jnga 


Quote
Searching on May 04, 2009, 02:39:16 PM
Quote
  Jerseygirl345 on May 04, 2009, 02:31:24 PM
Crystal Sheffield mom stated something about other state.. I think she said Georgia...

Donald R Squires
View Details
 40  Snellville, GA
Huntsville, AL
Rochester, NY 


http://www.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&qf=D&qmi=&qn=Squires&qs=GA&trackit=74


And Missouri no??? she said 2 different states


She had said Georgia and Alabama....

This one is closer to home.... and there was a sighting, but of course.. they said it wasn't Haleigh, even thought she responded to the woman singing Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 28, 2009, 10:01:18 AM
#215  Art Harris Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 11:52 pm

It’s a shame/tbird==
In response to your question about crystal and back child support. In fact, a mystery donor from Texas sent Crystal a check to be usd only for child support, to help get her out of the hole. According to Kim Picazio, her lawyer, ’she received $4,100 and paid some of the arrears, yes. … Crystal never saw the $$ “It was deposited into Picazio’s trust account, then to the Central Depository, then right to Ron. He’s richer today than last month,’” Picazio tells The Bald Truth in an exclusive interview tonight.
——Original Message——

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/#comments


Heart, this may well be more than we think.. You know Haleigh did not have to stay in one location..  What if that mystery Donor in Texas, is also family??  Trying to keep the lid on things. Ron did need the money and it was filter through Kim.... to Ron..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2009, 10:03:05 AM
the number one problem I have with the "taken by a family member" and is hidden in another state is, why would Jr be left behind?? I think that if someone was driven to that extereme where they felt it in the best interest to remove the child from that environment they would risk waking the passed out babysitter and take both children. I can't understand any reasoning they wold leave one behind, it just doesn't make sense to me. and on another note, I would think if someone did feel they were acting in the child's best interest, when the search became the focus of so much publicity they would have come forward since to be driven to such a decision makes you think it's someone with a good heart who could not stand the circumstances the children were living under. It's hard to believe someone with this thought process could stand by and watch this circus without losing their mind.
I agree with you, and what about doctor visits and such, someone would get suspicious, at least I would think so.

It's the same thing,  she could be with a relative that has a signed statment giving authorization for her treatment.  This takes someone to sign the form, and someone who is a notary to put the seal on.. Look at this vast family, I guarentee something like that either accompanied Haleigh, or was mailed to the person who has her..  Taking her to a Doctor,  she may be going under a different name, they have authorization for her treatment.. Pay cash for the bill.. No one in that Clinic is going to ask any questions.  Other than, about her turners syndrome if they even tell the doctor that, she may only have to need her medications, for what might be thought to be ashma.  She may go to different clinic's, never the same one twice.  Do they really look at a child and think< " Hey that's Haleigh?"   No, they stay so busy, it might cross their mind, but they may have seen 5 other girls that day that might have looked like Haleigh.  And, being in another state..  would not be the same as in Florida.. If there is a will, there is a way..  Got to remember, Connie Sheffield is a nurse, at the hospital.  That speaks volumn's.

Goodmorning,

Please could anyone answer this 20,000 question of mine?  Why on earth hasn't one of Haliegh's family members,said one word about the Turners ailment to the "abductors"?  I would plea for the child's health -breathing machine? Inhaler? 

Misty, mentioned that Haleigh would wake up in the middle of night with leg cramps, not one relative mentioned Haleigh's fragile health.  Haleigh's hand were bandaged because of Turners, this is a delicate child, why, in three stinkin months, Ron has never mentioned to please bring her home because of the ailment.  Instead 'drop her off' like she were a Cocker Spaniel, something stinks.

OT

I encluded Myles Sykes obit, I hope you don't mind, for a reminder of his brothers and sisters, I may pop over to classmates.com
and see if they have photos of these members and sometimes there are notes or informtion on this site. The dog on problem is once
you are registered you hop on the site and naturally your name is everywhere you go. I suggested in registering under an alias and alias school on CM because the digging won't backtrack to you. I may just register under my late Godmothers name and her school and another e-mail address.  There is no such thing of being anonymous.  I can't believe how much information obits have about relatives.  Annettes father Stallings also has relatives listed in his obit. I remember a seer said a woman with gray hair who smoked cigerettes has the child, I don't know. There are others that think differently, I just wonder why Cobra thinks Haleigh is alive, there needs to be some logic to his thinking.

Seahorse

Quote from: my2cents on May 21, 2009, 02:43:03 PM
Quote from: mlee on May 21, 2009, 07:31:11 AM
Two orbits later, one not listing more than we had.. 6 bucks later.. Read it and weep.......

Deceased Name: Myles K. Sykes, 61 
 
WELAKA -- Myles Kirby Sykes, 61, a retiree of Florida Department of Agriculture, died Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2002.

A native of Island Grove, he was a longtime resident of Hawthorne. Mr. Sykes was a member of First Baptist Church of Fruitland Park.

Survivors include his wife of 22 years, Annette Sykes, Welaka; son, Ronald Cummings, Crescent City; stepson, Donald Squires, Crescent City; daughters, Teresa Neves, Lady Lake, Melanie Kintzler, Oakfield, Wis., and Crystal Cummings, Wildwood; brothers, Thomas Sykes, Ocala, William Sykes, Opelika, Ala., and James Sykes, Marianna; sisters, Margie Boles, Gainesville, Berniece Woodward, Micanopy, Frances Coullette, Jacksonville, Glenda Miller, Texas and Cora Sue Price, Island Grove; 10 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild.

Masters Funeral Home, Palatka, provided information.



This is awesome....you need a monkey star!!!....I was making myself crazy seraching for this obit....wanted to go outside and scrub my forehead up and down the sidewalk!....okay here we go...

https://www.myfloridacounty.com/serv/MyFloridaCounty/ORI/Order

SYKES MYLES K;
WELFENBERG DOROTHY A
NO GRANTEE INDEXED 07/10/1979 MARRIAGE RECORD ALACHUA 474958 1219/282 1

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&gsfn=robert&gsln=welfenberg&=&gsby=&gsb2co=1%2CAll+Countries&gsb2pl=1%2C+&gsdy=&gsd2co=1%2CAll+Countries&gsd2pl=1%2C+&=&=&=&sbo=0&sbor=&srchb=r&prox=1&db=&ti=0&ti.si=0&gl=allgs&gss=asrf&gst=34&so=3

Name:  Robert Bing Welfenberg
Spouse:  Dorothy Annette Squires
Marriage:  date - St Louis

 Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997
Name:  Teresa Annette Squires
Father:  Joe Stephen Squires
Birth:  date - Dallas

looks like Joe Stephen Squires was Dorothy Sykes first husband if we can find the marriage record for this we should have her maiden name....
maiden name ?,Squires,Welfenberg,Sykes......maybe it is listed in the Texas marriages?....unless he moved there after they seperated ? I think that Donald Squires is Dorothy's son (he resembles her in his pic),Teresa's brother  and that Jason Squires is Donald Squires son which would make him Ronalds cousin.....
   

Is this Annette's husband with family tree?

Robert Bing Welfenberg

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=harzed&id=I23289

Family Trees

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http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Welfenberg&GSst=11&GRid=20695256&

Robert Bing Welfenberg :Obituary on "findagrave.com"  -----------Do I get a star?


 
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11   Missing Persons - High Profile / Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida / Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15  on: May 21, 2009, 04:49:02 PM 
Quote from: seahorse on May 21, 2009, 04:43:07 PM
Quote from: mlee on May 20, 2009, 11:01:45 PM
Quote from: Jerseygirl345 on May 20, 2009, 10:27:35 PM
Name: Myles K Sykes
Birth Date: 27 November 1940
Death Date: 23 January 2002 
Issuing State: Florida
Residence at Death: Crescent City,Putnam,Florida 32112
Satsuma Cemetery, Putnam, Florida

ROBERT B WELFENBERG
http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi?lastname=Welfenberg&firstname=robert&nt=exact

Try an Obit in Missouri,





From his social security.. yep.. I don't understand why Ancestry doesn't have his obit listed.

Quote from: my2cents on May 21, 2009, 02:43:03 PM
Quote from: mlee on May 21, 2009, 07:31:11 AM
Two orbits later, one not listing more than we had.. 6 bucks later.. Read it and weep.......

Deceased Name: Myles K. Sykes, 61 
 
WELAKA -- Myles Kirby Sykes, 61, a retiree of Florida Department of Agriculture, died Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2002.

A native of Island Grove, he was a longtime resident of Hawthorne. Mr. Sykes was a member of First Baptist Church of Fruitland Park.

Survivors include his wife of 22 years, Annette Sykes, Welaka; son, Ronald Cummings, Crescent City; stepson, Donald Squires, Crescent City; daughters, Teresa Neves, Lady Lake, Melanie Kintzler, Oakfield, Wis., and Crystal Cummings, Wildwood; brothers, Thomas Sykes, Ocala, William Sykes, Opelika, Ala., and James Sykes, Marianna; sisters, Margie Boles, Gainesville, Berniece Woodward, Micanopy, Frances Coullette, Jacksonville, Glenda Miller, Texas and Cora Sue Price, Island Grove; 10 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild.

 
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2009, 10:08:23 AM
www.firstcoastnews.com has a lot of the original videos still up on their website.

just listened to Marie..she said on one of the videos that after Crystal called her at 5 a.m. on the morning that she found out that Haleigh was missing, Marie immediately called her supervisor who arranged to get a substitute bus driver for Marie's route that morning.....so,that one can be laid to rest as well that she did not go into work and did not go on her route before coming to Putnam County..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 28, 2009, 10:09:29 AM
you know, even after the he said she said...  there are points at hand.  Crystal really didn't start going after Ron, until the media found out she had gone to DCS in December..  Then, she was having to explain why she went to the public, and her past and his past etc..

When, Kim came into the picture,  that's when things started heating up.. more to protect Crystal's image than anything else, and to give her legal custody of the children.. in case Haleigh could suddenly reappear.  For some reason, NG had a sudden dislike for both Crystal and Kim.. I can't explain it.. but, she saw something in both or possible including Marie, that didn't set right with her..  There is something that NG has not said in public. But it is there.

Cookie pointed out that Ron has not gone public with any hate statements against Crystal..  Remember the first photo with Ron on the ground crying and Crystal patting and rubbing his back..  I bet there is still a close relationship between the two.
They both just got caught up in this whirl of publicity and circus..   Ron may well be protecting Crystal and trying to retain his custody.. That was the reason for the marriage.. to keep Misty quiet, and close at hand so she doesn't take off and start running her mouth.. I bet there is an unlying agreement between Crystal and Ron about Haleigh's return.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2009, 10:11:01 AM
There are also 3 Cummings, 1 Squires, 4 Neves in Wetumpka, AL.

Remember the LE dispatch transmissions. There was at one point that the LE were at 116 Tyler St.  We never actually found out why they were at Tyler.  Woman heard screaming at 2:30, Cousin Joe staying with the Croslins on Tyler.

Just thinking, maybe Misty and the kids had been at Tyler, something happened there, and then she came home in time to meet Ron.  So, everything checked at the MH....
I believe that Cousin Joe was staying with the sister-in-law, Chelsea, who had possession of the van, who lives in Crescent City.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 28, 2009, 10:12:31 AM
www.firstcoastnews.com has a lot of the original videos still up on their website.

just listened to Marie..she said on one of the videos that after Crystal called her at 5 a.m. on the morning that she found out that Haleigh was missing, Marie immediately called her supervisor who arranged to get a substitute bus driver for Marie's route that morning.....so,that one can be laid to rest as well that she did not go into work and did not go on her route before coming to Putnam County..

Lets dig on this Cookie, because it has been reported differently. Marie may have learned how not to tell the truth.  Lets both dig on this and compare and make a decision, okay?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2009, 10:13:31 AM
snip Seahorse: Goodmorning,

Please could anyone answer this 20,000 question of mine?  Why on earth hasn't one of Haliegh's family members,said one word about the Turners ailment to the "abductors"?  I would plea for the child's health -breathing machine? Inhaler?

Misty, mentioned that Haleigh would wake up in the middle of night with leg cramps, not one relative mentioned Haleigh's fragile health.  Haleigh's hand were bandaged because of Turners, this is a delicate child, why, in three stinkin months, Ron has never mentioned to please bring her home because of the ailment.  Instead 'drop her off' like she were a Cocker Spaniel, something stinks.

Why hasn't any of the family members mentioned it? Crystal has had more air time than Ron has had...whether by choice or not...Kim has been on plenty of shows....she doesn't mention returning Haleigh due to health problems either...
you would think that the whole family would be appealing for her due to her health problems to whom ever took her...Poor baby...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2009, 10:16:25 AM
www.firstcoastnews.com has a lot of the original videos still up on their website.

just listened to Marie..she said on one of the videos that after Crystal called her at 5 a.m. on the morning that she found out that Haleigh was missing, Marie immediately called her supervisor who arranged to get a substitute bus driver for Marie's route that morning.....so,that one can be laid to rest as well that she did not go into work and did not go on her route before coming to Putnam County..

Lets dig on this Cookie, because it has been reported differently. Marie may have learned how not to tell the truth.  Lets both dig on this and compare and make a decision, okay?

the video that I watched was from February 11th I believe...in the link that Gramma provided...so it was early on when she made the statement...
do we have any other written or a video to the contrary?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 28, 2009, 10:17:58 AM
This is a little off the topic, but this is Grama Sykes comment about the child custody petition.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=134115&catid=3

"The only thing that needs to be talked about is Haleigh Ann Marie Cummings! Nothing else," Sykes said. "If they want to do all that other stuff, they should've waited until Haleigh came home. Any issues they had should not be now. Now is not the time."



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: alagary on May 28, 2009, 10:22:58 AM
Thanks GM and JNGA . Sorry I can't remember which , I noticed it because Wetumpka is near where I live . It was at a time when a whole lot of names were coming up .
 There sure are a lot of the same names in that area though . Just putting 2 and 2 together and still getting nowhere .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2009, 10:34:27 AM
This is a little off the topic, but this is Grama Sykes comment about the child custody petition.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=134115&catid=3

"The only thing that needs to be talked about is Haleigh Ann Marie Cummings! Nothing else," Sykes said. "If they want to do all that other stuff, they should've waited until Haleigh came home. Any issues they had should not be now. Now is not the time."



and I agree with granny Sykes...
I know that some dislike Granny Sykes and Teresa...but for the life of me, I haven't seen anything but 2 loving country grannys who love their kids and their grand kids...what is wrong with that?
I do not understand though their praises for Misty...that is a bit off to me..
I don't think that either of these 2 women would hide anything from LE to protect Misty if it meant that Haleigh would be found....jmo... but I don't get why they care so much for Misty when her stories have changed in regards to what happened that night...as a gramma, I would be all over that...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2009, 10:47:23 AM
#215  Art Harris Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 11:52 pm

It’s a shame/tbird==
In response to your question about crystal and back child support. In fact, a mystery donor from Texas sent Crystal a check to be usd only for child support, to help get her out of the hole. According to Kim Picazio, her lawyer, ’she received $4,100 and paid some of the arrears, yes. … Crystal never saw the $$ “It was deposited into Picazio’s trust account, then to the Central Depository, then right to Ron. He’s richer today than last month,’” Picazio tells The Bald Truth in an exclusive interview tonight.
——Original Message——

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/#comments


Heart, this may well be more than we think.. You know Haleigh did not have to stay in one location..  What if that mystery Donor in Texas, is also family??  Trying to keep the lid on things. Ron did need the money and it was filter through Kim.... to Ron..

I thought about it being a family member when I read Art's response to the poster.
May well be. 

Imho if it is just some unrelated donor, they are certainly not helping Crystal become a more responsible parent.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2009, 10:50:26 AM
Talking about videos this video bugs the stuffing out of me. 

Can tell me why she is so dog on happy when she has a child or grand baby missing? Old video of her defending Misty.  I really thought this woman had HC in the house just by watching her with sound and without sound. This is the most strange woman. IMO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca251Iv_sFk&feature=PlayList&p=A6FBCBE7F2D08705&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=10

You all have seen this it isn't new just puzzling.
Exclusive: Haleigh Cummings Granma Defends Misty!
Youtube.com Art Harris interview


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2009, 11:06:38 AM
snip Seahorse: Goodmorning,

Please could anyone answer this 20,000 question of mine?  Why on earth hasn't one of Haliegh's family members,said one word about the Turners ailment to the "abductors"?  I would plea for the child's health -breathing machine? Inhaler?

Misty, mentioned that Haleigh would wake up in the middle of night with leg cramps, not one relative mentioned Haleigh's fragile health.  Haleigh's hand were bandaged because of Turners, this is a delicate child, why, in three stinkin months, Ron has never mentioned to please bring her home because of the ailment.  Instead 'drop her off' like she were a Cocker Spaniel, something stinks.

Why hasn't any of the family members mentioned it? Crystal has had more air time than Ron has had...whether by choice or not...Kim has been on plenty of shows....she doesn't mention returning Haleigh due to health problems either...
you would think that the whole family would be appealing for her due to her health problems to whom ever took her...Poor baby...


Cookie,

You are 100% right not Marie or Crystal have not mentioned the breathing machine or inhaler. The only slight difference is Haleigh was, a guest, almost, or a visitor at their home, four days a month? Still, the very first thing would be of Haleigh's health. Why for heaven's sake hadn't anyone mentioned the child's fragile health? They are so egotist it had never entered their minds. IMO They are too busy all of them covering their butts, to even mention the child's health.  IMO.  If Haliegh is still living she must
be staying with people who have babysit her before, IMO. I think if we knew where she stayed before, that should be a major factor, unless, they are shuttering the child back and forth. IMO

Seahorse


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 28, 2009, 11:12:12 AM
This is a little off the topic, but this is Grama Sykes comment about the child custody petition.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=134115&catid=3

"The only thing that needs to be talked about is Haleigh Ann Marie Cummings! Nothing else," Sykes said. "If they want to do all that other stuff, they should've waited until Haleigh came home. Any issues they had should not be now. Now is not the time."



and I agree with granny Sykes...
I know that some dislike Granny Sykes and Teresa...but for the life of me, I haven't seen anything but 2 loving country grannys who love their kids and their grand kids...what is wrong with that?
I do not understand though their praises for Misty...that is a bit off to me..
I don't think that either of these 2 women would hide anything from LE to protect Misty if it meant that Haleigh would be found....jmo... but I don't get why they care so much for Misty when her stories have changed in regards to what happened that night...as a gramma, I would be all over that...

It's the aspect that Silence is a conversation within its self.. that she has to know something she is not saying, and since she was the last person to see Haleigh in the House, then it has to lie with her.  But, it doesn't..  She woke up and found Haleigh gone. no idea what happened.  But, her secret was sealed in a Marriage certificate. And her secret is what Ron told her after the LE were called. Hey, Crystal and or fam have Haleigh...... Period, that's all the girl really knows.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2009, 11:13:11 AM
Talking about videos this video bugs the stuffing out of me. 

Can tell me why she is so dog on happy when she has a child or grand baby missing? Old video of her defending Misty.  I really thought this woman had HC in the house just by watching her with sound and without sound. This is the most strange woman. IMO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca251Iv_sFk&feature=PlayList&p=A6FBCBE7F2D08705&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=10

You all have seen this it isn't new just puzzling.
Exclusive: Haleigh Cummings Granma Defends Misty!
Youtube.com Art Harris interview

had not seen this one...looks like an overly prideful granny? dunno...certainly is a bit off..
why she felt the need to overly praise Misty is beyond me as well...Misty had only been with Ronald for what, 5-7 months when Haleigh went missing? Misty would have still been on her best behavior in front of the children and ron's family...the honeymoon phase if you will...If Misty was so happy and cozy with her life as mommy/wifey to be..why did she feel the need to go on a 3 day bender with another man? what does TN think of that ??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 28, 2009, 11:14:46 AM
Talking about videos this video bugs the stuffing out of me. 

Can tell me why she is so dog on happy when she has a child or grand baby missing? Old video of her defending Misty.  I really thought this woman had HC in the house just by watching her with sound and without sound. This is the most strange woman. IMO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca251Iv_sFk&feature=PlayList&p=A6FBCBE7F2D08705&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=10

You all have seen this it isn't new just puzzling.
Exclusive: Haleigh Cummings Granma Defends Misty!
Youtube.com Art Harris interview

Now, think about it.  If Ron knows who Haleigh went with, and that she is safe and sound.. Would Grandma Sykes beable to put on a false front.  Really rather harer to hide the truth, and promote a lie.  Because your face and your mouth, tell different stories.
I guess it boils down to all of them, not being very good actors or actress's.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 28, 2009, 11:16:12 AM
Talking about videos this video bugs the stuffing out of me. 

Can tell me why she is so dog on happy when she has a child or grand baby missing? Old video of her defending Misty.  I really thought this woman had HC in the house just by watching her with sound and without sound. This is the most strange woman. IMO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca251Iv_sFk&feature=PlayList&p=A6FBCBE7F2D08705&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=10

You all have seen this it isn't new just puzzling.
Exclusive: Haleigh Cummings Granma Defends Misty!
Youtube.com Art Harris interview

had not seen this one...looks like an overly prideful granny? dunno...certainly is a bit off..
why she felt the need to overly praise Misty is beyond me as well...Misty had only been with Ronald for what, 5-7 months when Haleigh went missing? Misty would have still been on her best behavior in front of the children and ron's family...the honeymoon phase if you will...If Misty was so happy and cozy with her life as mommy/wifey to be..why did she feel the need to go on a 3 day bender with another man? what does TN think of that ??

Keep your friends close and your enemies Closer...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 28, 2009, 11:18:00 AM
snip Seahorse: Goodmorning,

Please could anyone answer this 20,000 question of mine?  Why on earth hasn't one of Haliegh's family members,said one word about the Turners ailment to the "abductors"?  I would plea for the child's health -breathing machine? Inhaler?

Misty, mentioned that Haleigh would wake up in the middle of night with leg cramps, not one relative mentioned Haleigh's fragile health.  Haleigh's hand were bandaged because of Turners, this is a delicate child, why, in three stinkin months, Ron has never mentioned to please bring her home because of the ailment.  Instead 'drop her off' like she were a Cocker Spaniel, something stinks.

Why hasn't any of the family members mentioned it? Crystal has had more air time than Ron has had...whether by choice or not...Kim has been on plenty of shows....she doesn't mention returning Haleigh due to health problems either...
you would think that the whole family would be appealing for her due to her health problems to whom ever took her...Poor baby...


Cookie,



You are 100% right not Marie or Crystal have not mentioned the breathing machine or inhaler. The only slight difference is Haleigh was, a guest, almost, or a visitor at their home, four days a month? Still, the very first thing would be of Haleigh's health. Why for heaven's sake hadn't anyone mentioned the child's fragile health? They are so egotist it had never entered their minds. IMO They are too busy all of them covering their butts, to even mention the child's health.  IMO.  If Haliegh is still living she must
be staying with people who have babysit her before, IMO. I think if we knew where she stayed before, that should be a major factor, unless, they are shuttering the child back and forth. IMO

Seahorse

 ::MonkeyDance::Time to do the Monkey Dance.. on the same page...  ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 28, 2009, 11:21:27 AM
www.firstcoastnews.com has a lot of the original videos still up on their website.

just listened to Marie..she said on one of the videos that after Crystal called her at 5 a.m. on the morning that she found out that Haleigh was missing, Marie immediately called her supervisor who arranged to get a substitute bus driver for Marie's route that morning.....so,that one can be laid to rest as well that she did not go into work and did not go on her route before coming to Putnam County..

Lets dig on this Cookie, because it has been reported differently. Marie may have learned how not to tell the truth.  Lets both dig on this and compare and make a decision, okay?

the video that I watched was from February 11th I believe...in the link that Gramma provided...so it was early on when she made the statement...
do we have any other written or a video to the contrary?

I have seen it written and in a video interview.. both the call, the fact she did run her route that day, and the 7 hour thing.  I need to dig it al up for you to compare..   I wish we had a pi in Baker County. We would run their backsides off finding info for us.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 28, 2009, 11:50:07 AM
I just find it so strange that you never hear anything of Gr Sykes or Gr Neves in the news anymore. 

The actions of Ron and Misty, going along with their everyday cares and it appears to me that all four of them, either know where she is, or something is fishy about them.  You just don't kinda give up, and forget that she is out there.  You try and make attempts to be heard.  All four of these people are just sitting down behind the fence, keeping their mouths shut.  WHY?????



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 28, 2009, 12:14:30 PM
I just find it so strange that you never hear anything of Gr Sykes or Gr Neves in the news anymore. 

The actions of Ron and Misty, going along with their everyday cares and it appears to me that all four of them, either know where she is, or something is fishy about them.  You just don't kinda give up, and forget that she is out there.  You try and make attempts to be heard.  All four of these people are just sitting down behind the fence, keeping their mouths shut.  WHY?????



I have been out digging on statements from the Two Grandmas, Neves and Sikes.. And I did find a bit of jewel in the midst. Confirmation on who Tina Belcher is.. She is Teresa's sister, daughter of Annette Sikes....  -- Monkey dance- ::MonkeyDance::


http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-02-14/story/lonely_little_brother_waiting_for_haleigh  "Neves said her son and the rest of the family would hold a candlelight vigil Friday night, as they have every night since Haleigh disappeared.

She and her sister Tina Belcher, Haleigh's aunt, smiled when they looked at Thursday night's candles still burning below a table full of Valentines and teddy bears and photos. There also was a packet of fruit chews someone left amid the tribute for Haleigh.

That someone was Junior, Belcher said, explaining how her nephew insisted on buying his sister a treat when she took him into a convenience store.

"We've got to get one for Sissy," the almost-4-year-old told his aunt about the fruit chews. "We'll give her the candy when she gets home.""



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 28, 2009, 12:34:23 PM
I just find it so strange that you never hear anything of Gr Sykes or Gr Neves in the news anymore. 

The actions of Ron and Misty, going along with their everyday cares and it appears to me that all four of them, either know where she is, or something is fishy about them.  You just don't kinda give up, and forget that she is out there.  You try and make attempts to be heard.  All four of these people are just sitting down behind the fence, keeping their mouths shut.  WHY?????


This is all so strange, it's like the little one has just been forgotten  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 28, 2009, 12:47:39 PM
I just find it so strange that you never hear anything of Gr Sykes or Gr Neves in the news anymore. 

The actions of Ron and Misty, going along with their everyday cares and it appears to me that all four of them, either know where she is, or something is fishy about them.  You just don't kinda give up, and forget that she is out there.  You try and make attempts to be heard.  All four of these people are just sitting down behind the fence, keeping their mouths shut.  WHY?????


This is all so strange, it's like the little one has just been forgotten  ::MonkeyNoNo::

They have too.. Child Custody, everything is so public.. Two, when this case is no longer a biggy..  Haleigh will come home...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 28, 2009, 12:49:19 PM
Sorry guys, got to post this....  Here we are with the young man so many have chosen to love and admire...... Right..

http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=8659888399


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 28, 2009, 01:45:31 PM
Talking about videos this video bugs the stuffing out of me. 

Can tell me why she is so dog on happy when she has a child or grand baby missing? Old video of her defending Misty.  I really thought this woman had HC in the house just by watching her with sound and without sound. This is the most strange woman. IMO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca251Iv_sFk&feature=PlayList&p=A6FBCBE7F2D08705&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=10

You all have seen this it isn't new just puzzling.
Exclusive: Haleigh Cummings Granma Defends Misty!
Youtube.com Art Harris interview

ITA Seahorse, she is an enabler and naive at best! Her son left the most precious children in the care of a drug wh@re who had been on a 3 day binge sleeping with another man!!!!!! And you can't tell me she didn't have a clue (even ole Ron knew) about it, Satsuma is too small to not know these things are going on. How on earth can you praise the one who "lost" your precious grandbaby and then offer blessings for a marriage? To me the only answer is Misty is covering for something/someone and they are all covering their @sses. JMO




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 28, 2009, 01:53:41 PM
I just find it so strange that you never hear anything of Gr Sykes or Gr Neves in the news anymore. 

The actions of Ron and Misty, going along with their everyday cares and it appears to me that all four of them, either know where she is, or something is fishy about them.  You just don't kinda give up, and forget that she is out there.  You try and make attempts to be heard.  All four of these people are just sitting down behind the fence, keeping their mouths shut.  WHY?????


This is all so strange, it's like the little one has just been forgotten  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Amen......I will never understand it!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 28, 2009, 02:12:39 PM
I just find it so strange that you never hear anything of Gr Sykes or Gr Neves in the news anymore. 

The actions of Ron and Misty, going along with their everyday cares and it appears to me that all four of them, either know where she is, or something is fishy about them.  You just don't kinda give up, and forget that she is out there.  You try and make attempts to be heard.  All four of these people are just sitting down behind the fence, keeping their mouths shut.  WHY?????


This is all so strange, it's like the little one has just been forgotten  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Amen......I will never understand it!
Do you know if HH got to Satsuma safely?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 28, 2009, 02:12:48 PM
This is just my theory of a few points.  If there is some cover-up going on, then WHO would be the one's that would lose big time??? 

Someone dealing with drugs, OK....but this I believe extends a bit further up/down the line. 

GR Neves works for the LE as a dispather, in two different counties ( I have read that prior, not sure if still the same arrangemet).  So, is she involved, and then someone a bit higher up as well. This would explain the reasons that Ron can flount his tush around town, with pills, and doing his little 'jobs' and he doesn't seem to get nailed for anything.

Is Neves also 'involved'...not only knowing about what is taking place, but also as far as dealing, selling, supplying????

Then we also have Gr Sykes....just cause she is up in years, would be the perfect 'cover-up'...ummmmm who would think that lovable GrGranny,who loves those kids to death, would be involved with a drug dealer.  (me...that is who....maybe I am wrong....very possible)

So are these two, plus Ron in a situation that also involves some higher ups?




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 28, 2009, 02:15:15 PM
This is just my theory of a few points.  If there is some cover-up going on, then WHO would be the one's that would lose big time??? 

Someone dealing with drugs, OK....but this I believe extends a bit further up/down the line. 

GR Neves works for the LE as a dispather, in two different counties ( I have read that prior, not sure if still the same arrangemet).  So, is she involved, and then someone a bit higher up as well. This would explain the reasons that Ron can flount his tush around town, with pills, and doing his little 'jobs' and he doesn't seem to get nailed for anything.

Is Neves also 'involved'...not only knowing about what is taking place, but also as far as dealing, selling, supplying????

Then we also have Gr Sykes....just cause she is up in years, would be the perfect 'cover-up'...ummmmm who would think that lovable GrGranny,who loves those kids to death, would be involved with a drug dealer.  (me...that is who....maybe I am wrong....very possible)

So are these two, plus Ron in a situation that also involves some higher ups?



Anything is possible, what I don't get is if this was a family abduction, don't you think someone in this group would have had this all bumbled up by now.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2009, 02:18:40 PM
snip Seahorse: Goodmorning,

Please could anyone answer this 20,000 question of mine?  Why on earth hasn't one of Haliegh's family members,said one word about the Turners ailment to the "abductors"?  I would plea for the child's health -breathing machine? Inhaler?

Misty, mentioned that Haleigh would wake up in the middle of night with leg cramps, not one relative mentioned Haleigh's fragile health.  Haleigh's hand were bandaged because of Turners, this is a delicate child, why, in three stinkin months, Ron has never mentioned to please bring her home because of the ailment.  Instead 'drop her off' like she were a Cocker Spaniel, something stinks.

Why hasn't any of the family members mentioned it? Crystal has had more air time than Ron has had...whether by choice or not...Kim has been on plenty of shows....she doesn't mention returning Haleigh due to health problems either...
you would think that the whole family would be appealing for her due to her health problems to whom ever took her...Poor baby...


Cookie,

You are 100% right not Marie or Crystal have not mentioned the breathing machine or inhaler. The only slight difference is Haleigh was, a guest, almost, or a visitor at their home, four days a month? Still, the very first thing would be of Haleigh's health. Why for heaven's sake hadn't anyone mentioned the child's fragile health? They are so egotist it had never entered their minds. IMO They are too busy all of them covering their butts, to even mention the child's health.  IMO.  If Haliegh is still living she must
be staying with people who have babysit her before, IMO. I think if we knew where she stayed before, that should be a major factor, unless, they are shuttering the child back and forth. IMO

Seahorse



Cookie,

The end of the video, T.N. answers questions, her responds to Art's questions are almost business like. (gramma defends misty).

I am looking for the first telephone interview with T.N. her voice is controlled, disciplined, not emotional on the phone call,  she seemed to be defending her Misty on the phone call, too. This call she mentioned she sent a family member over with some clothes, at the time I thought, maybe, hand me downs, she didn't mention who the family member was and I thought that was odd.  When I find or if I find the audio, I will post it.  This just stinks to high heaven, this is why we as woman can not let this go.

Seahorse


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 28, 2009, 02:21:00 PM
This is just my theory of a few points.  If there is some cover-up going on, then WHO would be the one's that would lose big time??? 

Someone dealing with drugs, OK....but this I believe extends a bit further up/down the line. 

GR Neves works for the LE as a dispather, in two different counties ( I have read that prior, not sure if still the same arrangemet).  So, is she involved, and then someone a bit higher up as well. This would explain the reasons that Ron can flount his tush around town, with pills, and doing his little 'jobs' and he doesn't seem to get nailed for anything.

Is Neves also 'involved'...not only knowing about what is taking place, but also as far as dealing, selling, supplying????

Then we also have Gr Sykes....just cause she is up in years, would be the perfect 'cover-up'...ummmmm who would think that lovable GrGranny,who loves those kids to death, would be involved with a drug dealer.  (me...that is who....maybe I am wrong....very possible)

So are these two, plus Ron in a situation that also involves some higher ups?



Anything is possible, what I don't get is if this was a family abduction, don't you think someone in this group would have had this all bumbled up by now.  ::MonkeyConfused::

My thoughts exactly ~  If this was indeed a family abduction, WHY IS THE OTHER SIDE JUST BUYING TIME???  Why are they not on the bandwagon, turning the other side in??? I can get to the point that it was possible that a family abduction took place, but cannot understand why the other side is letting this go on................and on...............and on.  Why if they know, would they not report them with facts, info and get this little sweetheart HOME????

Someone has the bell dangling, and it is not time to ring it yet.  Is it possible that the side that should be screaming at the top of their lungs, also has something to hide, if they open their yapps.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2009, 02:23:23 PM
I just find it so strange that you never hear anything of Gr Sykes or Gr Neves in the news anymore. 

The actions of Ron and Misty, going along with their everyday cares and it appears to me that all four of them, either know where she is, or something is fishy about them.  You just don't kinda give up, and forget that she is out there.  You try and make attempts to be heard.  All four of these people are just sitting down behind the fence, keeping their mouths shut.  WHY?????



Gramma....I find it strange that we haven't heard from ANYBODY! not Crystals side either! We don't even know if Crystal or her mother are even still in town or if they went back to Baker county...
Misty from what I know has not even been spotted anywhere, except maybe the report at the doctor office...No Ron,  No granny's....nobody...Kim P once in awhile which I could live with out seeing...What gives? Did all of the working folks go back to work? It is as if none of this even happened and everyone is going back to their lives...everyone except Haleigh that it is...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 28, 2009, 02:23:49 PM
I just find it so strange that you never hear anything of Gr Sykes or Gr Neves in the news anymore. 

The actions of Ron and Misty, going along with their everyday cares and it appears to me that all four of them, either know where she is, or something is fishy about them.  You just don't kinda give up, and forget that she is out there.  You try and make attempts to be heard.  All four of these people are just sitting down behind the fence, keeping their mouths shut.  WHY?????


This is all so strange, it's like the little one has just been forgotten  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Amen......I will never understand it!
Do you know if HH got to Satsuma safely?

No, I just called her and left her a message to call me when she arrived and let me know if she needs anything.......like emotional support, the last time she was there she was sick in the pit of her stomach just from turning onto Green Drive. Thank God we actually have someone willing to take off and go. I would love to, but with grandbaby in the NICU I never leave this Island, too afraid something may happen and very grateful she is willing to step up to the plate for the rest of us.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 28, 2009, 02:36:27 PM
I just find it so strange that you never hear anything of Gr Sykes or Gr Neves in the news anymore. 

The actions of Ron and Misty, going along with their everyday cares and it appears to me that all four of them, either know where she is, or something is fishy about them.  You just don't kinda give up, and forget that she is out there.  You try and make attempts to be heard.  All four of these people are just sitting down behind the fence, keeping their mouths shut.  WHY?????



Gramma....I find it strange that we haven't heard from ANYBODY! not Crystals side either! We don't even know if Crystal or her mother are even still in town or if they went back to Baker county...
Misty from what I know has not even been spotted anywhere, except maybe the report at the doctor office...No Ron,  No granny's....nobody...Kim P once in awhile which I could live with out seeing...What gives? Did all of the working folks go back to work? It is as if none of this even happened and everyone is going back to their lives...everyone except Haleigh that it is...

YES!!!  Cookie, seems that the spotlight is being turned off.  No longer shining brightly on this case, and appears that everyone is letting this happen.  Is this the plan....so everyone will just put it in the back of their minds and back off.  I  am waiting for the chit bubble to burst, cause you can only hand out so much chit....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2009, 02:49:00 PM
Sorry guys, got to post this....  Here we are with the young man so many have chosen to love and admire...... Right..

http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=8659888399

right..he does not look like much of a stud muffin to me...just sayin....he could be a really nice guy...dunno...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 28, 2009, 03:06:05 PM
Ok, so I can buy the whole thing. I can see it all happening.  I can imagine it all blowing up bigger than you-know-what, and now they all need it to calm down and get the spot light off of them. 

(By the way, the theory of the money chain and paying back Ronald is brilliant!  And I think you may be exactly right. Who in the world donates the exact amount needed?) 

So.  Let's put ourselves in their shoes for just a moment.  How are we going to get Haleigh home with the least amount of people being prosecuted?  And who will we blame?  Will grandma or grandpa, great grand auntie, whoever step up to the plate and say, "yep, it was me!" What the final scene?  How do we get Haleigh home and make this all go away?

Cookie, I would love to tell you how I felt rewatching that video, and will do so, but my little girls end of school year preschool program is tonight and I haven't gotten anything done around this house today, going to pop off to do that and later tonight, when everyone is in bed, I'll come back and tell you   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 28, 2009, 03:07:57 PM
Thanks Island  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 28, 2009, 03:08:39 PM
Sorry guys, got to post this....  Here we are with the young man so many have chosen to love and admire...... Right..

http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=8659888399

right..he does not look like much of a stud muffin to me...just sayin....he could be a really nice guy...dunno...
Agreed, not much of a looker, at least to me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 28, 2009, 03:26:30 PM
Sorry guys, got to post this....  Here we are with the young man so many have chosen to love and admire...... Right..

http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=8659888399

right..he does not look like much of a stud muffin to me...just sayin....he could be a really nice guy...dunno...
Agreed, not much of a looker, at least to me.

Well his comment about smoking Blunts, doesn't put him on my list.. That is Jeremiah Regan for you..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2009, 03:39:57 PM
I just find it so strange that you never hear anything of Gr Sykes or Gr Neves in the news anymore. 

The actions of Ron and Misty, going along with their everyday cares and it appears to me that all four of them, either know where she is, or something is fishy about them.  You just don't kinda give up, and forget that she is out there.  You try and make attempts to be heard.  All four of these people are just sitting down behind the fence, keeping their mouths shut.  WHY?????


This is all so strange, it's like the little one has just been forgotten  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Amen......I will never understand it!
Do you know if HH got to Satsuma safely?

no rose, I read a post on another site this morning where HH said that she was, at that time, at a flea bag hotel in Satsuma.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 28, 2009, 03:43:02 PM
Thanks Island  ::MonkeyCool::

YW Rosie ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2009, 03:44:47 PM
Sorry guys, got to post this....  Here we are with the young man so many have chosen to love and admire...... Right..

http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=8659888399

right..he does not look like much of a stud muffin to me...just sayin....he could be a really nice guy...dunno...
Agreed, not much of a looker, at least to me.

Well his comment about smoking Blunts, doesn't put him on my list.. That is Jeremiah Regan for you..

(http://file047a.bebo.com/6/large/2009/03/07/14/8659888399a10275146370l.jpg)

Jeremiah Regan


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 28, 2009, 03:49:22 PM
Thanks Heart, I would imagine there aren't a lot of motels around there, but I could be wrong.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2009, 03:53:01 PM
www.firstcoastnews.com has a lot of the original videos still up on their website.

just listened to Marie..she said on one of the videos that after Crystal called her at 5 a.m. on the morning that she found out that Haleigh was missing, Marie immediately called her supervisor who arranged to get a substitute bus driver for Marie's route that morning.....so,that one can be laid to rest as well that she did not go into work and did not go on her route before coming to Putnam County..

Lets dig on this Cookie, because it has been reported differently. Marie may have learned how not to tell the truth.  Lets both dig on this and compare and make a decision, okay?

the video that I watched was from February 11th I believe...in the link that Gramma provided...so it was early on when she made the statement...
do we have any other written or a video to the contrary?

I have seen it written and in a video interview.. both the call, the fact she did run her route that day, and the 7 hour thing.  I need to dig it al up for you to compare..   I wish we had a pi in Baker County. We would run their backsides off finding info for us.

In a video on firstcoast news (I cannot seem to copy a link directly to it) dated Feb 11 ...I just listened to Marie say that she got a call at 5 AM that she was missing and called her supervisor, she even mentioned his name, and he arranged for a substitute driver for her route that day.

I think Cookie mentioned this same video.

I am not sure why we are deciding to doubt that this was the case.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2009, 04:06:08 PM
I just find it so strange that you never hear anything of Gr Sykes or Gr Neves in the news anymore. 

The actions of Ron and Misty, going along with their everyday cares and it appears to me that all four of them, either know where she is, or something is fishy about them.  You just don't kinda give up, and forget that she is out there.  You try and make attempts to be heard.  All four of these people are just sitting down behind the fence, keeping their mouths shut.  WHY?????


This is all so strange, it's like the little one has just been forgotten  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Amen......I will never understand it!
Do you know if HH got to Satsuma safely?

no rose, I read a post on another site this morning where HH said that she was, at that time, at a flea bag hotel in Satsuma.

I read that same post, Heart.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2009, 04:16:57 PM
I just find it so strange that you never hear anything of Gr Sykes or Gr Neves in the news anymore. 

The actions of Ron and Misty, going along with their everyday cares and it appears to me that all four of them, either know where she is, or something is fishy about them.  You just don't kinda give up, and forget that she is out there.  You try and make attempts to be heard.  All four of these people are just sitting down behind the fence, keeping their mouths shut.  WHY?????


This is all so strange, it's like the little one has just been forgotten  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Amen......I will never understand it!
Do you know if HH got to Satsuma safely?

no rose, I read a post on another site this morning where HH said that she was, at that time, at a flea bag hotel in Satsuma.

I read that same post, Heart.

Great Brandi!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 28, 2009, 04:22:50 PM
May I ask what forum HH is posting on?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: little lulu on May 28, 2009, 04:30:18 PM
Just checking in to see if HH has posted...I went to bed last night thinking of her, praying she is safe.

This 'no news' is so danged frustrating...

God Bless Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2009, 04:31:17 PM
May I ask what forum HH is posting on?
no rose since she does not use the same user name as the one that she uses here at this site, I would rather not say.  I just happened to run across it one day.  However if you will look back at some of her posts within the last week, I am sure you will find it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 28, 2009, 05:01:51 PM
May I ask what forum HH is posting on?
no rose since she does not use the same user name as the one that she uses here at this site, I would rather not say.  I just happened to run across it one day.  However if you will look back at some of her posts within the last week, I am sure you will find it.
Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2009, 06:53:03 PM
I just find it so strange that you never hear anything of Gr Sykes or Gr Neves in the news anymore. 

The actions of Ron and Misty, going along with their everyday cares and it appears to me that all four of them, either know where she is, or something is fishy about them.  You just don't kinda give up, and forget that she is out there.  You try and make attempts to be heard.  All four of these people are just sitting down behind the fence, keeping their mouths shut.  WHY?????



Gramma....I find it strange that we haven't heard from ANYBODY! not Crystals side either! We don't even know if Crystal or her mother are even still in town or if they went back to Baker county...
Misty from what I know has not even been spotted anywhere, except maybe the report at the doctor office...No Ron,  No granny's....nobody...Kim P once in awhile which I could live with out seeing...What gives? Did all of the working folks go back to work? It is as if none of this even happened and everyone is going back to their lives...everyone except Haleigh that it is...

YES!!!  Cookie, seems that the spotlight is being turned off.  No longer shining brightly on this case, and appears that everyone is letting this happen.  Is this the plan....so everyone will just put it in the back of their minds and back off.  I  am waiting for the chit bubble to burst, cause you can only hand out so much chit....

HI,

Maybe, the families want to sneak Haleigh back in town. IMO.
Would this explain why they are silent?  Do you remember gma Neves, pointing to the camera and instructing the public and scolding the public to keep the focus on Haleigh? The problem was she and her son weren't focusing on the child but on a wedding.  My opinion is they want to keep the focus off of them, and want to sneak the child back without any penalty. Why does Cobra believe Haleigh is alive?  Does anyone have any thoughts to why he feels the child is alive, it has to be more than a hunch. IMO and Thank-you.

Seahorse


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2009, 07:03:41 PM
I just find it so strange that you never hear anything of Gr Sykes or Gr Neves in the news anymore. 

The actions of Ron and Misty, going along with their everyday cares and it appears to me that all four of them, either know where she is, or something is fishy about them.  You just don't kinda give up, and forget that she is out there.  You try and make attempts to be heard.  All four of these people are just sitting down behind the fence, keeping their mouths shut.  WHY?????


This is all so strange, it's like the little one has just been forgotten  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Amen......I will never understand it!


HI,

Do you remember when RC was faking crying and fell to his knees, when he was holding Haleigh's photograph?  I thought about that scene,if I were the parent with a missing child, I would be hugging her favorite stuffed animal and not a 8 x10 photograph. He whimped and moaned with his eyes shut and not one tear. Before he fell to his knees, he mentioned his child was so well mannered, but, he didn't mention her fragile health. This just stinks to high heaven.

Seahorse


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2009, 07:24:43 PM
Hi Seahorse.

I assume you are referring to this picture?

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/45007510.jpg)

I guess one could look at it both ways. I personally thought it looked like a very distressed individual. I have no idea why he was holding the picture at that moment, but I assume it was to get her image out into the public eye. This was very early after Haleigh disappeared.

Not arguing with you at all. Your hinkymeter is yours, mine is mine. ;-)

~Brandi


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: alagary on May 28, 2009, 07:29:21 PM
Sorry guys, got to post this....  Here we are with the young man so many have chosen to love and admire...... Right..

http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=8659888399

right..he does not look like much of a stud muffin to me...just sayin....he could be a really nice guy...dunno...
Agreed, not much of a looker, at least to me.

Well his comment about smoking Blunts, doesn't put him on my list.. That is Jeremiah Regan for you..

(http://file047a.bebo.com/6/large/2009/03/07/14/8659888399a10275146370l.jpg)

Jeremiah Regan
well aint that pretty ? I think he found a new home .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2009, 07:29:38 PM
In other Florida news:

Hundreds of Northeast Florida foster kids on psychotropic

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-05-28/story/hundreds_of_northeast_florida_foster_kids_on_psychotropic_drugs


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 28, 2009, 07:39:44 PM
I ran across a post on Art Harris's site the other day.  The poster user name was Avi.  And she told about her visit with the Cummings Family. Quite extensive and detailed.  you might take time to drop in and check it out.

http://www.artharris.com


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 28, 2009, 07:51:05 PM
This is part of an email I sent to GramaMonkey just a bit ago..  This is what I think..

The arrival time for both Marie and Crystal is off, telling you terrible off.  if either one were notified at 3:49, and Crystal didn't become hysterical, like right that moment, or Marie didn't become hysterical, and she waited until 5:00 to contact  Marie, and then Johnny, and thought it was a prank?  The fact remains they did not show up until almost 11:00 am......  If they left at 5:30 they would have been setting in Satsuma at 7:00 o'clock am.  So, the issue is still a 7 hour time issue.  They can fuss and cuss and try to throw it off the track, but the facts remain the same.  That;s like writing it across the wall in letters 5 feet tall, hey there is something wrong with this...
 
Right now, Crystal is between a rock and a bolder.. The story is out,  the possibility of drugs is out, Kim is a trashed attorney and that story it out..  Jeremiah Regan is something else, and that story is out.  So, where does she go from here.  She has choices, and her participation in any major organization representing missing children.. I don't think so.... They will can both her and Marie. What choices will DCS have now. Well Cobra thinks you almost have to kill a child before they will come yank it away from you.. What would happen in court, hey the judge will know as much as we, about everything that's out..  Thats really going to be a guessing point.  So, what might they do now.......
 
A. She can sneak Haleigh home.
B. She can come in and confess and the Le will bring Haleigh Home, plus arrest everyone that participated.
C. She can pick up and move the he.. out of dodge.
D. She can leave Haleigh out where ever she is, a sh.. thing to do, and just ride the waves.  And pretend she dosn't know anything, she was in Georgia.  That's not a joke.  Two reports list them in Georgia.  Her and Marie.  Two news reports...
 
If I had two choices,  my first would be A. and my second would be C.  By the way, the 4 grand that was a donation from Texas, naw,  it came out of Kim's pocket..  It's part of the follow the money.  But, you noticed that Ron got his money.....  So, now he is quiet, and misty has cash to blow, she's quiet.  So.. the choices are available.   I wonder, will ron and misty decide to move too.....  Maybe, Johnny and Connie and Crystal and the Baby, and Marie and Bruce and Jennifer and Ron and Misty will all use the same moving van and move the hell out of Florida.....  chad he won't go.. he's already asking girls for their phone numbers..  So, watch on the major roadways, this huge moving van, with flags attached to the top, Jeremiah strapped to the roof, and a huge banner across the side.. "That say's Kentucky or bust.. just kidding"

 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2009, 07:58:55 PM
Hi Seahorse.

I assume you are referring to this picture?

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/45007510.jpg)

I guess one could look at it both ways. I personally thought it looked like a very distressed individual. I have no idea why he was holding the picture at that moment, but I assume it was to get her image out into the public eye. This was very early after Haleigh disappeared.

Not arguing with you at all. Your hinkymeter is yours, mine is mine. ;-)

HI Brandi,

This the above picture is from the video I made reference to.  Your are very thoughtful and generous to give him the benefit of the doubt.  My question is why hasn't he made computer photos showing Haleigh with her hair short, her hair dyed black or the child in a baseball cap?  If someone abducted her, Brandi, do you think Haleigh would still have long flowing curly blonde hair? 
Seahorse

~Brandi


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2009, 08:02:27 PM

O/T

45 charged in child pornography sting


Sheriff calls images horrific

Updated: Thursday, 28 May 2009, 12:31 PM EDT
Published : Thursday, 28 May 2009, 11:42 AM EDT

WINTER HAVEN, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - Authorities say they have charged more than three dozen suspects with possession of child pornography, including one man with over 10,000 images.

Click here to see suspects

The Polk County Sheriff's Office says 35 suspects were arrested Thursday, and they are still looking for six others. The investigation began more than a year ago. Forty-five people were charged in all.

Sheriff Grady Judd called it the largest child pornography sting in the department's history. “These images are not just images of children without clothes,” Sheriff Judd said. “These images are horrific displays of children being forced to expose their genitals, forced to perform sexual acts – images of children being raped.”

The average age of the victims are between 1-12 years of age, both female and male victims.

Judd says the suspects include a father and son who are both registered sex offenders and were each charged with ten counts of possession of child pornography. Others were found with thousands of images and videos.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/local/052809child_porn_sting

http://www.wftv.com/news/19590984/detail.html



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2009, 08:12:46 PM
Hi Seahorse.

I assume you are referring to this picture?

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/45007510.jpg)

I guess one could look at it both ways. I personally thought it looked like a very distressed individual. I have no idea why he was holding the picture at that moment, but I assume it was to get her image out into the public eye. This was very early after Haleigh disappeared.

Not arguing with you at all. Your hinkymeter is yours, mine is mine. ;-)
~Brandi

HI Brandi,

This the above picture is from the video I made reference to.  Your are very thoughtful and generous to give him the benefit of the doubt.  My question is why hasn't he made computer photos showing Haleigh with her hair short, her hair dyed black or the child in a baseball cap? If someone abducted her, Brandi, do you think Haleigh would still have long flowing curly blonde hair? 
Seahorse



I was just trying to provide the photo you were mentioning in your post and I added my take on it. I just thought he looked distraught when I saw it back then and still looks that way to me.

I have not seen anyone make or distribute computer photos showing Haleigh with hair as you describe. Not Crystal, not Ronald, nor any of their representatives or family members.

It's very sad that it appears no one is really looking for this child.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 28, 2009, 08:26:00 PM
This is a little off the topic, but this is Grama Sykes comment about the child custody petition.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=134115&catid=3

"The only thing that needs to be talked about is Haleigh Ann Marie Cummings! Nothing else," Sykes said. "If they want to do all that other stuff, they should've waited until Haleigh came home. Any issues they had should not be now. Now is not the time."



and I agree with granny Sykes...
I know that some dislike Granny Sykes and Teresa...but for the life of me, I haven't seen anything but 2 loving country grannys who love their kids and their grand kids...what is wrong with that?
I do not understand though their praises for Misty...that is a bit off to me..
I don't think that either of these 2 women would hide anything from LE to protect Misty if it meant that Haleigh would be found....jmo... but I don't get why they care so much for Misty when her stories have changed in regards to what happened that night...as a gramma, I would be all over that...

The only reason I can come up with GGranny and Mother Teresa praising Fibsy is because they all know where Haleigh is and what happened.. What mother in their right mind would praise someone and have their blessing in marrying their son when FIBSTY was the last to see Haleigh, the inconsistancies, 3 day drug bender , and can't even remember where the children slept let alone knew what they were wearing.. And during this time was NOT the time to be thinking of getting married and getting a tatoo...While LE was having a intensive search for Haleigh they were getting married..... And as far as Mother Teresa I beleive she was in that home that night when this all went down and came back to make it look as though she just arrived...  If I was the mother and this happen someone would have black eyes and not be walking ... Its just not adding up... ::MonkeyNoNo::

911: “911, what’s your emergency”

Misty Croslin: “Hi…umm…I just woke up…and our backdoor was wide open and I think…and I can’t find our daughter”

http://www.electroniccrossing.com/blog6.php/haleigh-cummings-911-call-transcript

http://www.zimbio.com/Haleigh+Cummings/articles/12/Haleigh+Cummings+911+Call+Misty+Croslin

http://eyesforlies.blogspot.com/2009/03/ronald-misty-onthe-today-show.html

Greta interview- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-z6jX8Xvmc

Today show- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1PlszjkZ5Q





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 28, 2009, 08:30:32 PM
Forgot this video on the today show...... ::MonkeyTongue::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1PlszjkZ5Q


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2009, 08:38:02 PM
I ran across a post on Art Harris's site the other day.  The poster user name was Avi.  And she told about her visit with the Cummings Family. Quite extensive and detailed.  you might take time to drop in and check it out.

http://www.artharris.com

melee where on Art's site?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2009, 08:40:56 PM
I ran across a post on Art Harris's site the other day.  The poster user name was Avi.  And she told about her visit with the Cummings Family. Quite extensive and detailed.  you might take time to drop in and check it out.

http://www.artharris.com

melee where on Art's site?

Although I did not want to give Art any of my advertising clicks, I went there as well, and could not find any posts by an "Avi" in his current "article" either, Heart.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 28, 2009, 08:42:23 PM
I ran across a post on Art Harris's site the other day.  The poster user name was Avi.  And she told about her visit with the Cummings Family. Quite extensive and detailed.  you might take time to drop in and check it out.

http://www.artharris.com

melee where on Art's site?
Haleigh Cummings: Cobra Arrested, Bonds Out!
Her name is Ava, I misspelled it.. Post #90

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/#comments


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Truth Seeker on May 28, 2009, 08:46:48 PM
This is part of an email I sent to GramaMonkey just a bit ago..  This is what I think..

The arrival time for both Marie and Crystal is off, telling you terrible off.  if either one were notified at 3:49, and Crystal didn't become hysterical, like right that moment, or Marie didn't become hysterical, and she waited until 5:00 to contact  Marie, and then Johnny, and thought it was a prank?  The fact remains they did not show up until almost 11:00 am......  If they left at 5:30 they would have been setting in Satsuma at 7:00 o'clock am.  So, the issue is still a 7 hour time issue.  They can fuss and cuss and try to throw it off the track, but the facts remain the same.  That;s like writing it across the wall in letters 5 feet tall, hey there is something wrong with this...
 SNIP

One question about the time line - are you taking into account that Crystal went directly to LE upon arrival in town?  Where do you place her at 11:00 am?  At the MH?  In front of a camera?  Beside Ronald?.  Just curious about the 11:00am reference point.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2009, 08:58:52 PM
I ran across a post on Art Harris's site the other day.  The poster user name was Avi.  And she told about her visit with the Cummings Family. Quite extensive and detailed.  you might take time to drop in and check it out.

http://www.artharris.com

melee where on Art's site?
Haleigh Cummings: Cobra Arrested, Bonds Out!
Her name is Ava, I misspelled it.. Post #90

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/#comments

thanks for drawing our attention to that post Mlee...very good to read something good about Ron and his family for a change..it seems genuine I think......I think that when it all comes out during the court battle if it gets that far, we will be surprised at what we will see...Crystal may not be as crystal clean as some think...There is something wrong that Ron has not lost custody and the children given to Crystal if all that she and her attorney have claimed......If the courts felt that the children/Ron Jr. was in any kind of danger, he would have been taken by now...jmo....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 28, 2009, 09:02:19 PM
Hi Seahorse.

I assume you are referring to this picture?

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/45007510.jpg)

I guess one could look at it both ways. I personally thought it looked like a very distressed individual. I have no idea why he was holding the picture at that moment, but I assume it was to get her image out into the public eye. This was very early after Haleigh disappeared.

Not arguing with you at all. Your hinkymeter is yours, mine is mine. ;-)
~Brandi

HI Brandi,

This the above picture is from the video I made reference to.  Your are very thoughtful and generous to give him the benefit of the doubt.  My question is why hasn't he made computer photos showing Haleigh with her hair short, her hair dyed black or the child in a baseball cap? If someone abducted her, Brandi, do you think Haleigh would still have long flowing curly blonde hair? 
Seahorse



I was just trying to provide the photo you were mentioning in your post and I added my take on it. I just thought he looked distraught when I saw it back then and still looks that way to me.

I have not seen anyone make or distribute computer photos showing Haleigh with hair as you describe. Not Crystal, not Ronald, nor any of their representatives or family members.

It's very sad that it appears no one is really looking for this child.

Brandi,

Perhaps, I should make up computer photos with the child in a baseball cap, hair dyed, but, I would feel it wouldn't be proper.
Do you have any idea's, Brandi, why all of these guys wouldn't want to find this precious little girl?  A theory was floated that daddy was in trouble with the child's absentees from Kindergarden, 27 days absent, some excused and some weren't, and also if my memory serves me correctly, seven days tardy. My thoughts are he panicked and hid H.C. until the end of the school year which I understand would be June 5 for Haleigh. I know it sounds a little far fetched,but, all these characters are far fetched.
Brandi, since, no family members are in an active search, do you think perhaps they know who has her?  Just questions.  Do you have any idea why Cobra would think Haleigh was still alive after nearly four months?  What information could he have that is convincing?  Thank-you.

Seahorser


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2009, 09:03:07 PM
I ran across a post on Art Harris's site the other day.  The poster user name was Avi.  And she told about her visit with the Cummings Family. Quite extensive and detailed.  you might take time to drop in and check it out.

http://www.artharris.com

melee where on Art's site?
Haleigh Cummings: Cobra Arrested, Bonds Out!
Her name is Ava, I misspelled it.. Post #90

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/#comments

Thanks melee!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2009, 09:13:05 PM
Brandi,

Perhaps, I should make up computer photos with the child in a baseball cap, hair dyed, but, I would feel it wouldn't be proper.
Do you have any idea's, Brandi, why all of these guys wouldn't want to find this precious little girl?  A theory was floated that daddy was in trouble with the child's absentees from Kindergarden, 27 days absent, some excused and some weren't, and also if my memory serves me correctly, seven days tardy. My thoughts are he panicked and hid H.C. until the end of the school year which I understand would be June 5 for Haleigh. I know it sounds a little far fetched,but, all these characters are far fetched.
Brandi, since, no family members are in an active search, do you think perhaps they know who has her?  Just questions.  Do you have any idea why Cobra would think Haleigh was still alive after nearly four months?  What information could he have that is convincing?  Thank-you.

Seahorser

Not sure why you are singling me out for these questions. LOL

When I have a theory or thought about this case, I post it.

I cannot answer your questions, Seahorse. If I could, or anyone could, perhaps Haleigh would be home.

Good questions; I just do not know the answers.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2009, 09:13:58 PM
Hi Seahorse.

I assume you are referring to this picture?

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/45007510.jpg)

I guess one could look at it both ways. I personally thought it looked like a very distressed individual. I have no idea why he was holding the picture at that moment, but I assume it was to get her image out into the public eye. This was very early after Haleigh disappeared.

Not arguing with you at all. Your hinkymeter is yours, mine is mine. ;-)
~Brandi

HI Brandi,

This the above picture is from the video I made reference to.  Your are very thoughtful and generous to give him the benefit of the doubt.  My question is why hasn't he made computer photos showing Haleigh with her hair short, her hair dyed black or the child in a baseball cap? If someone abducted her, Brandi, do you think Haleigh would still have long flowing curly blonde hair? 
Seahorse



I was just trying to provide the photo you were mentioning in your post and I added my take on it. I just thought he looked distraught when I saw it back then and still looks that way to me.

I have not seen anyone make or distribute computer photos showing Haleigh with hair as you describe. Not Crystal, not Ronald, nor any of their representatives or family members.

It's very sad that it appears no one is really looking for this child.

Brandi,

Perhaps, I should make up computer photos with the child in a baseball cap, hair dyed, but, I would feel it wouldn't be proper.
Do you have any idea's, Brandi, why all of these guys wouldn't want to find this precious little girl?  A theory was floated that daddy was in trouble with the child's absentees from Kindergarden, 27 days absent, some excused and some weren't, and also if my memory serves me correctly, seven days tardy. My thoughts are he panicked and hid H.C. until the end of the school year which I understand would be June 5 for Haleigh. I know it sounds a little far fetched,but, all these characters are far fetched.
Brandi, since, no family members are in an active search, do you think perhaps they know who has her?  Just questions.  Do you have any idea why Cobra would think Haleigh was still alive after nearly four months?  What information could he have that is convincing?  Thank-you.

Seahorser

Just my opinion.  But we are not privy to what all is or is not being done.  The majority of cable news outlets are not reporting on the case. Newspapers ever once and a while produces an article. If not for Art Harris  ::MonkeyEek:: and the antics of other outsiders we would not have heard as much as we have.

However Haleigh is not the first and unfortunately will not be the last that we do not hear pleas from their parents and love ones.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 28, 2009, 09:19:29 PM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing64.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2009, 10:00:18 PM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing64.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh

Oh very nice Brandi!  Haleigh looks so sweet!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 28, 2009, 10:05:34 PM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing64.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh

Oh very nice Brandi!  Haleigh looks so sweet!

yes...very sweet little child..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 28, 2009, 10:14:15 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 28, 2009, 10:19:26 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2009, 10:40:38 PM
NANCYMGRIFFIS
LICENSE NUMBER: CNA165701
 
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GLEN ST MARY,FL32040 


http://ww2.doh.state.fl.us/IRM00PRAES/PRASINDI.ASP?LicId=444019&ProfNBR=4401

JG, I tried unsuccessfully pulling up that address (12222 Mud Lake Road) via google maps a few nights ago when a Monkey posted of list of unpaid property taxes and I tried again tonight and still no luck.

I wonder what type of property this is. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 28, 2009, 10:43:14 PM
NANCYMGRIFFIS
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Address of Record
12222 MUD LAKE ROAD
GLEN ST MARY,FL32040 


http://ww2.doh.state.fl.us/IRM00PRAES/PRASINDI.ASP?LicId=444019&ProfNBR=4401

JG, I tried unsuccessfully pulling up that address (12222 Mud Lake Road) via google maps a few nights ago when a Monkey posted of list of unpaid property taxes and I tried again tonight and still no luck.

I wonder what type of property this is. 

I dont know why? I will try.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mymonkey on May 28, 2009, 10:47:40 PM
I wonder  if or who has Haleigh and the who being someone that knows her medical condition could order her meds off the internet or go to Mexico and stock up so that she would be properly medicated. Just a thought... ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 28, 2009, 10:54:38 PM
NANCYMGRIFFIS
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Address of Record
12222 MUD LAKE ROAD
GLEN ST MARY,FL32040 


http://ww2.doh.state.fl.us/IRM00PRAES/PRASINDI.ASP?LicId=444019&ProfNBR=4401

JG, I tried unsuccessfully pulling up that address (12222 Mud Lake Road) via google maps a few nights ago when a Monkey posted of list of unpaid property taxes and I tried again tonight and still no luck.

I wonder what type of property this is. 

I dont know why? I will try.... ::MonkeyTongue::

I used google earth and found 12222 Mud lake road. I hope the link works..

Edit to remove non-working link and add working link per JG.
http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=30.21563,-82.231521&spn=0.000883,0.001717&z=19


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 28, 2009, 11:06:51 PM
last try...12222 mud lake Rd... ::MonkeyTongue::

http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=30.21563,-82.231521&spn=0.000883,0.001717&z=19


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 28, 2009, 11:22:25 PM
last try...12222 mud lake Rd... ::MonkeyTongue::

http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=30.21563,-82.231521&spn=0.000883,0.001717&z=19

Third try was the charm,  thanks JG.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 29, 2009, 12:00:59 AM
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12222 MUD LAKE ROAD
GLEN ST MARY,FL32040 


http://ww2.doh.state.fl.us/IRM00PRAES/PRASINDI.ASP?LicId=444019&ProfNBR=4401

Very interesting.....also sometimes a prescription is issued 3 months at a time....and when a child is being passed around there may be medication at several houses that could be used....for instance at the parents and the grandparents...I noticed that in several of the pictures Haleigh is wearing a gold necklace I can't tell what it is but was wondering could it be a medical alert necklace? Can anyone zoom in on that ?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 29, 2009, 12:26:00 AM
http://bakercountypress.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2130&Itemid=94

Mission accomplished (almost)   
Written by Joel Addington     
Friday, 27 February 2009 
After close to two weeks of hunting for a local angle on the Haleigh Cummings story, I finally found one, or more accurately, it found me.

Sometimes that’s how it works, you cast a wide net fishing for information, comments from people who might know something. In this case, my net came back empty and the ‘fish’ just happened to jump in the boat.

I was aiming for comments from Haleigh’s immediate family, but ended up with what turned out to be a unique perspective (and one that hasn’t been shown in other media outlets) from Haleigh’s grandaunt, the sister of Haliegh’s grandmother. She called us about pink ribbons that were put on school buses in support of Haleigh and her family. She also called the other newspaper in town (more on that below).

I came away with a slight twist on a pretty obvious,  no-brainer angle: how is the family coping in these trying times? I gathered that the best and probably only way family members can cope with a tragedy like this, other than prayer, is to immerse themselves in doing everything possible to get the child's story out to as many people as possible, indefinitely.

The story has gotten huge, garnering national coverage and daily stories from Jacksonville news outlets. There's not much left people don't know about Haleigh or her parents. But something the grandaunt, Patricia, said crystalized my story for me. And it was something the immediate family may have not addressed publicly — the possibility that it could be months if not years before any conclusion comes to this tragedy. It's probably not something Haliegh's father and mother want to even consider.
Patricia though, mentioned the importance of getting the word out, and keeping it out. The day I interviewed her and in the days that followed, the hoards of media in Satsuma were packing up and moving out. Patricia pledged to wear a pin, T-shirt or something with Haleigh’s face on it until the girl is found.

She’s in this thing for the long haul, even if the media is not.

I asked how the families had been dealing with the intense media spotlight, Geraldo and Nancy Grace and the like. Patricia said its been tough, but if they had to stand in front of cameras all day and talk about Haleigh, they’d gladly do it for her sake.

I had found my hook. I came back to the office and wrote up the lead story on our front page. The next day, the paper hit the racks and while delivering it (yes, I man a paper route too) I saw the competition ran a Haleigh story as well, only instead of the aunt, they’d spoken with Haleigh’s mother and I think her grandmother too. Patricia had said she’d pass my number along to them, and I assume they chose not to contact us for whatever reason.

I was a little dismayed to see this, although I thought my story read much better and certainly had a voice not yet heard in this saga. Patricia is on the periphery of the story, not so close as to have been jaded by prodding reporters, but close enough to offer some real insights.

And I said I'd plug in my story a yard sale that’s benefitting the family. I did not, so I’m doing it here. Be at the corner of CR 125 and US 90 in Glen March 14 at 8:00 am.

Moving on (segways, who needs 'em). No-bid contracts seem to be all the rave this season. There's the City of Jacksonville's management contract for their landfill, the no-bid construction procurement policy at the New River landfill and now the new jail in Macclenny is getting in on the action.

They aren't bidding out some $350,000 of phone work, but sole-sourcing it to NEFCOM by going through the jail's builder Ajax. This could be because NEFCOM's owner, Larry Townes, is also loaning the jail the money to do the job. He owns a bank too. Now lets be clear, there's nothing illegal about this arrangement. This fella owns a phone company and a bank and probably a slew of other businesses that have the luxury of being able to offer financing for their "products."

I actually envy Mr. Townes. He can loan the money, get it back to do the job (hopefully making a profit by charging more for the work than it costs to actually do it), park the cash somewhere earning interest or loan it out again, AND collect the interest on the first loan.

Remind me to acquire a bank the first chance I get.

But what's all this mean for the jail? Hopefully a REALLY low interest rate on the loan. I'm thinking no more than the 4 or 5 percent. The jail should get a low rate already because it's a nonprofit, but more so because they didn't make NEFCOM compete for the work with other phone contractors.

We'll just have to wait and see what sort of repayment terms are included  in the loan agreement that's up for consideration next month. As always, stay tuned
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 29, 2009, 01:24:51 AM
Good evening my2cents.
I read the article and what I find rather odd about what this great Aunt is saying is everything really. I'm no expert on how family members deal with situation such as this, but, it just seems to soon for the great Aunt to come to such a conclusion really. It's apparent that she must have come to some form of acceptance and I'm wanting to say acceptance of defeat even.
I hope that makes sense.

I read her statements several times over to make sure I hadn't misread what she had said there.
I wonder if LE had a professional evaluate it?



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 29, 2009, 02:09:00 AM
Not sure if this has been posted yet or not...
If so I am re-posting this with ~Respect~

Haleigh Cummings – Time For The Dogs?

http://www.bloggernews.net/121048

A quote from Simon's article,

"Someone with a trained cadaver dog, drop me a line, my email is zzsimonb@gmail.com."



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 29, 2009, 02:12:36 AM
God Bless Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 29, 2009, 02:22:29 AM
God Bless Haleigh

Aho and Amen!

So many people are suffering, even people who have never met this child. She is the sweetheart Daughter to so many now. Please allow this little girl to be found. I pray to you Creator let it be so.

I heard it said by an elder that when two people pray in agreeance then agreeance will be answered.
Me and you HH we are in agreeance.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 29, 2009, 02:27:08 AM
God Bless Haleigh

Aho and Amen!

So many people are suffering, even people who have never met this child. She is the sweetheart Daughter to so many now. Please allow this little girl to be found. I pray to you Creator let it be so.

I heard it said by an elder that when two people pray in agreeance then agreeance will be answered.
Me and you HH we are in agreeance.


hey, is my picture showing........also Crystal posted a bulletin on My Space yesterday, it is so sad!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Blumonkey on May 29, 2009, 04:24:34 AM
Does anyone know if Haleigh was being treated with Growth Hormone? This is a common treatment for Turner Syndrome and must be utilized before puberty. A pediatric endocrinologist must be seen for treatment and follow up at a minimum of every 3 months. Lab work is usually monthly and prescriptions written for a month's supply at a time since the dose is lab and weight based.It is given in injection form usually 3 times a week and family members are taught to give the injections if there is not a nurse in the family. There are not that many pediatric endocrinologists. I live in a major city and we have 3 within a 100 mile radius and 2 of the 3 are in practice together. Sometimes these little girls have hypothyroidism also and would need to be followed up in the same way. Just out of curiosity I asked 2 of these docs if they would be suspicious should a 5 year old show up for treatment with no referral and no medical records. Both of the physicians said not only were they aware of this missing child but they had discussed it months ago in a staff meeting to inform staff. In addition Turner Syndrome patients sometime have cardiac anomalies or hypertension which would require follow up with other specialists. We know that Haleigh was under the care of a physician IIRC her Mom was chastised by family court for missing Dr. appointments. On the other hand, it would be much easier to find treatment for asthma. Drop by any clinic, give any name and pay cash. Since Spring and Fall are usually triggers, it is safe to say she would have needed her nebulizer treatments or inhaler if she is still with us. This child has at least 2 chronic illnesses that we are aware of, both of which cause her to be more vulnerable to infection or other illnesses. I agree with the other astute posters who ask why,for the love of Haleigh,are all family members not pleading for the return of this child ???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 29, 2009, 05:30:05 AM
Forgot this video on the today show...... ::MonkeyTongue::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1PlszjkZ5Q

Jerseygirl,

He and Ted Bundy look so much a like, chilling. I hope he is innocent of everything, but, his looks are just frightening.
The Today Show,R.C., seemed to talk through his teeth to Meredith, I wish she would have given him a five knuckle sandwich. He had such an opportunity to speak to Haleigh or ask the abductors for mercy for his child, instead, he chose to defend his marriage. I hope that Haleigh is at peace where ever she is, it didn't appear the child had much peace living with this guy. IMO.

Seahorse


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: little lulu on May 29, 2009, 06:37:11 AM
Good Morning Monkeys and Guests!

HH...great picture...where is that located?  Are you at home now? 
I found this blog post interesting...hopefully someone will volunteer.
Praying TODAY will be the day Haleigh is found.


Not sure if this has been posted yet or not...
If so I am re-posting this with ~Respect~

Haleigh Cummings – Time For The Dogs?

http://www.bloggernews.net/121048

A quote from Simon's article,

"Someone with a trained cadaver dog, drop me a line, my email is zzsimonb@gmail.com."




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: starcat29 on May 29, 2009, 07:13:13 AM
not sure i can post this but ifn't i am sry but crystal has asked to pass it on


     ---------------- Bulletin Message -----------------
From: HALEIGH BUGS MAMA
To:
Date: May 27, 2009 12:48 PM
Subject: My sweet baby girl HaLeigh Cummings, Bring her home!!!!!


This is HaLeigh's mother Crystal Sheffield. If anyone out there knows where she is please contact the police, jrop her off at a store or the police station.. Just some where so someone can contact an officer... I'm begging who ever has our little girl please bring her home, she really needs to be with her family she has medical problems that need to be took care of.. HaLeigh's family are the only one's who know how to tend to her needs!!!! This is tearing me apart not having our baby home with us. To my sweet angel baby girl mommy love's you more than you will ever know. I want you to know I will never give up on you until we are together again. Who ever reads this please know how much this hurts me and if you know anything please let me know. HaLeigh is my first baby, if you are a parent and you know something please I'm begging you from the bottom of my heart to let someone know if you know anything. If it were your child put yourself in our shoes, what would you do I would hope you would do the right thing and report it. I would if I knew something about anyone elses child... This is the most important thing to me right now is to find our HaLeigh Bug....

HaLeigh Mommy loves you to the moon and stars and back forever and ever!!!! I WILL NEVER GIVE UP ON YOU BABY GIRL!!!!!!
   
   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 29, 2009, 08:14:19 AM
last try...12222 mud lake Rd... ::MonkeyTongue::

http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=30.21563,-82.231521&spn=0.000883,0.001717&z=19

Good morning, I'm on  apparently, you must be working already.. Anyway, I pulled up the map this morning and looked at the location..  Now, if Crystal's Mobile home is right in front of Marie's  on Marie's property,  where is it? am I blind this morning and not seeing the forest for the trees.  I have seen photograph's of the yard area, the swing, the kids in and around the pool..  I wonder if the two last units are linked and Marie references the house on the left as above her?  Okay....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 29, 2009, 08:24:14 AM
not sure i can post this but ifn't i am sry but crystal has asked to pass it on


     ---------------- Bulletin Message -----------------
From: HALEIGH BUGS MAMA
To:
Date: May 27, 2009 12:48 PM
Subject: My sweet baby girl HaLeigh Cummings, Bring her home!!!!!


This is HaLeigh's mother Crystal Sheffield. If anyone out there knows where she is please contact the police, jrop her off at a store or the police station.. Just some where so someone can contact an officer... I'm begging who ever has our little girl please bring her home, she really needs to be with her family she has medical problems that need to be took care of.. HaLeigh's family are the only one's who know how to tend to her needs!!!! This is tearing me apart not having our baby home with us. To my sweet angel baby girl mommy love's you more than you will ever know. I want you to know I will never give up on you until we are together again. Who ever reads this please know how much this hurts me and if you know anything please let me know. HaLeigh is my first baby, if you are a parent and you know something please I'm begging you from the bottom of my heart to let someone know if you know anything. If it were your child put yourself in our shoes, what would you do I would hope you would do the right thing and report it. I would if I knew something about anyone elses child... This is the most important thing to me right now is to find our HaLeigh Bug....

HaLeigh Mommy loves you to the moon and stars and back forever and ever!!!! I WILL NEVER GIVE UP ON YOU BABY GIRL!!!!!!
   
   


We should all HOPE and PRAY, this does Happen.. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 29, 2009, 08:32:01 AM
Good morning Monkeys and Guests!

#254  wannaknow Says:
May 29th, 2009 at 12:35 am

Well, its good that someone donated enough money for Crystal to pay her child support…At least thats out of the way and now Ronald can maybe hire PI to help with this investigation, but I bet he doesnt….He will spend it on cigarettes and beer and drugs and maybe conoms so that Musty doesnt end up pregnant if she isnt already.. I just wish if there was nothing important to report on the where-a-bouts on Haleigh,then all the other crap we keep hearing would just stop being reported, I dont care about child support owed or who everybody thinks might be on drugs and how bad Cobra is screwing up this case looking for notoriety, I just wanna hear about Haleigh, I just want to hear what LE has to say about where this investigation is leading, have they got any clues at all, do they know anymore than they did before, do they think this is gonna be a cold case or do they think it will be solved, do they still think Haleigh is alive or not…….If everybody would just stop reporting on all the trash that is going around and just report on Haleigh I think this case might get back on track……..God Bless Haleigh!!!!


#255 Art Harris Says:
May 29th, 2009 at 1:01 am

WANNAKNOW:

Great post. We’ve decided to let garbagemen pick up the trash and go through it since it’s impossible to dissect without thick gloves and a nose-pin to keep from smelling the stench. Problem is it’s impossible to understand the circumstances of collection and competing agendas behind it without devoting all our valuable time to juggling jello that often turns out not to be what it was made out to be…We just think it demeans and hurts the credibility of the good folks who have taken to driving the garbage truck.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/#comments


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 29, 2009, 08:51:36 AM
After reading all the post, something occurred to me.   The reason Haleigh went Missing, is based totally on the Dirty Laundry, created directly or indirectly in both the lives, of both parents.  The reverse came, When Haleigh did go Missing. This brought all of the Dirty Laundry out to be aired.  It is a fact of life, that one determined the other.  Now, Haleigh is still missing, and the Dirty Laundry is now Aired.
And it's time for the two People in Haleigh's life, to finally work out the differences,  that created this mess, to just "Bring Haleigh Home".  Someone needs to put both Parents in a room at the same time, look them both in the Eye and tell them both, "the gag is up"..  "Where is Haleigh?" 
And don't misunderstand what I said, I said Both Parents... 
Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 29, 2009, 08:52:25 AM
12222 Mud Lake Rd.

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/mudlakerd.jpg)
(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/mudlke2.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 29, 2009, 08:53:14 AM
God Bless Haleigh

Wonder where this photo of Haleigh is???   Is it on the top of memaw's????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 29, 2009, 08:53:37 AM
#218  Cee Cee Says:
May 28th, 2009 at 12:27 am

To Everyone:
I am so tired of people bashing our LE,I happen to know the detective in the pic, he is a very good person he beleives in the system and he does things the way they should be done.He was a drug detective for many years,he knows the drug holes and people and of all the LE I think he can definately get to the bottom of things. I also know personally one of the other detectives and you will not find a better person inside and out and what ever the truth is he will definately tell it.He is a awesome father and this I am sure hits home for both of them.And as far as Charles Ingram, yes he is a EX-officer,and things aren’t as easy in this town for him as ya’ll may think it is,and I know several officers who do not care for him or what he had been accused of doing.He did his time and what does he have to do with bonding drug dealers,molesters,and drug addicts out of jail.His wife ran this business when he was in prison this is her business not his,she does have to make a living and bonding is a good living she has done this for years.I guess you all want to pick this town and the people here apart,do you all know how many kids go missing a year?I say this over and over again the person that holds the key here is Misty,I don’t buy the little intemedated girl act she is a street smart,nasty mouth,lying 17 year old girl that should have her butt in school.And Ava said she is so in love,yeah that’s why she was off having sex with someone else the weekend before Haleigh went missing.That’s why she is refusing to help LE now.The day she picked her wedding dress up I was there,she was all happy no sign of a tear,just the face of someone who looks like she got away with something.I can and will talk about these people,I was really heartbroken for Ron in the begining until he said on TV that he never did drugs,I think that’s when lights when off in alot of peoples heads,because there are alot of people here that has seen him doing drugs we have been in the same room with him.It would of been better to tell the truth and say I am trying to stop I need help,or something besides lying.The big picture Haleigh is missing and someone knows and how can they find out if the last person to be with her won’t talk, and when she does and they ask her questions she doesn’t like she walks out.That’s alot of love she shows there for Haleigh,right Ava. God Bless them all and I’ll pray for Haleigh until the day she is found.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/#comments


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 29, 2009, 08:56:29 AM
12222 Mud Lake Rd.

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/mudlakerd.jpg)
(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/mudlke2.jpg)

Thanks Grama!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2009, 09:35:16 AM
Thanks, for all the links and posts from Art's site, and Crystal's message on myspace. HH thanks for that billboard pic of Haleigh, hope you are safe in Satsuma.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 29, 2009, 09:37:58 AM
Good morning Monkeys and Guests!

#254  wannaknow Says:
May 29th, 2009 at 12:35 am

Well, its good that someone donated enough money for Crystal to pay her child support…At least thats out of the way and now Ronald can maybe hire PI to help with this investigation, but I bet he doesnt….He will spend it on cigarettes and beer and drugs and maybe conoms so that Musty doesnt end up pregnant if she isnt already.. I just wish if there was nothing important to report on the where-a-bouts on Haleigh,then all the other crap we keep hearing would just stop being reported, I dont care about child support owed or who everybody thinks might be on drugs and how bad Cobra is screwing up this case looking for notoriety, I just wanna hear about Haleigh, I just want to hear what LE has to say about where this investigation is leading, have they got any clues at all, do they know anymore than they did before, do they think this is gonna be a cold case or do they think it will be solved, do they still think Haleigh is alive or not…….If everybody would just stop reporting on all the trash that is going around and just report on Haleigh I think this case might get back on track……..God Bless Haleigh!!!!




me thinks a bit the pot calling the kettle black? just sayin.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 29, 2009, 09:48:08 AM
I received this from our Lady "Eyes of Satsuma", yesterday, after she read our post.

Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 5:52:04 PM
Subject: No "flea bag" hotel in Satsuma

mlee,  If HH is in Satsuma and staying, I don't know where it would be.   There is no hotel/motel in that  area or within 10 miles.  A couple of decent motels in Palatka on 17/100/20 (main road called Reid St.  and a bed&breakfast. South of Satsuma is Crescent City and  there is a Lakeside Motel, but I don't think it's currently open.  Just off 17 on Main St. is a bed and breakfast.  Places to stay are hard to come by. 
 
Satsuma has Mema's Restraunt (really a tiny, un-modern building) but with great food, a Dollar Store, a Kangaroo service station, a towing company, a fruit stand, a couple of trailer parks (small and not modern) and the Haleigh Bug Center.  I'll be going by there and see what's happening.  Then I'll let you know.  I sure don't think HH will be in any trouble there.  The weather is still messy with a lot of rain and the worse she should be is wet.
 
SMs research on family within driving distance is a good thought.  It's strange nothing has leaked out.  Thanks for all your work.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 29, 2009, 09:59:22 AM
I am sure that HH will be just fine in Satsuma....
who is going to harm her? no one even knows who she is ....
don't understand the worry over this...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 29, 2009, 10:06:17 AM
#218  Cee Cee Says:
May 28th, 2009 at 12:27 am

To Everyone:
I am so tired of people bashing our LE,I happen to know the detective in the pic, he is a very good person he beleives in the system and he does things the way they should be done.He was a drug detective for many years,he knows the drug holes and people and of all the LE I think he can definately get to the bottom of things. I also know personally one of the other detectives and you will not find a better person inside and out and what ever the truth is he will definately tell it.He is a awesome father and this I am sure hits home for both of them.And as far as Charles Ingram, yes he is a EX-officer,and things aren’t as easy in this town for him as ya’ll may think it is,and I know several officers who do not care for him or what he had been accused of doing.He did his time and what does he have to do with bonding drug dealers,molesters,and drug addicts out of jail.His wife ran this business when he was in prison this is her business not his,she does have to make a living and bonding is a good living she has done this for years.I guess you all want to pick this town and the people here apart,do you all know how many kids go missing a year?I say this over and over again the person that holds the key here is Misty,I don’t buy the little intemedated girl act she is a street smart,nasty mouth,lying 17 year old girl that should have her butt in school.And Ava said she is so in love,yeah that’s why she was off having sex with someone else the weekend before Haleigh went missing.That’s why she is refusing to help LE now.The day she picked her wedding dress up I was there,she was all happy no sign of a tear,just the face of someone who looks like she got away with something.I can and will talk about these people,I was really heartbroken for Ron in the begining until he said on TV that he never did drugs,I think that’s when lights when off in alot of peoples heads,because there are alot of people here that has seen him doing drugs we have been in the same room with him.It would of been better to tell the truth and say I am trying to stop I need help,or something besides lying.The big picture Haleigh is missing and someone knows and how can they find out if the last person to be with her won’t talk, and when she does and they ask her questions she doesn’t like she walks out.That’s alot of love she shows there for Haleigh,right Ava. God Bless them all and I’ll pray for Haleigh until the day she is found.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/#comments


Thanks Heart for posting this.  I am glad that it is not one of our Monkeys looking thru a magnifying glass trying to give a positive view, cause I do believe the MONKEYS are all a bit smarter than this poster.  We do not have to be locals to see what is going down in Putnam county.

My RED highlighted in the above.  If this LE officer was in the drug unit for many years, then will someone PLEASE tell me, WHY is that COUNTY full of drug dealers, drug users, etc.....that have not been taken down and busted for good.   Was someone keeping their eyes and ears closed when all of this was taking place for many years..   

Same goes for the green highlight.  Why is it that the locals can see what is happening.  Is it that the locals have better eyesight???  This poster did notihing but attempt to put the POSITIVE VIEWS ON LE....C

Charles Ingrham....well that is to darn bad, he is the one that committed the crime, and it will follow him to his grave.  As far as I am concerned he SHOULD NOT EVEN BE OUT AMONGST THE PUBLIC.  He is the one that offended...not everyone else.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 29, 2009, 10:06:54 AM
I am sure that HH will be just fine in Satsuma....
who is going to harm her? no one even knows who she is ....
don't understand the worry over this...

She was responding to the post on SM who were concerned about her well being. Don't know.. Have to ask the posters who were concerned.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 29, 2009, 10:10:48 AM
I am sure that HH will be just fine in Satsuma....
who is going to harm her? no one even knows who she is ....
don't understand the worry over this...

She was responding to the post on SM who were concerned about her well being. Don't know.. Have to ask the posters who were concerned.

mlee...yeah..I know...and I am agreeing with her....I know that some are concerned about her well being going down there...I don't think that there is anything to worry about...otherwise...don't go if there was any real danger..jmo....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 29, 2009, 10:17:17 AM
I received this from our Lady "Eyes of Satsuma", yesterday, after she read our post.

Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 5:52:04 PM
Subject: No "flea bag" hotel in Satsuma

mlee,  If HH is in Satsuma and staying, I don't know where it would be.   There is no hotel/motel in that  area or within 10 miles.  A couple of decent motels in Palatka on 17/100/20 (main road called Reid St.  and a bed&breakfast. South of Satsuma is Crescent City and  there is a Lakeside Motel, but I don't think it's currently open.  Just off 17 on Main St. is a bed and breakfast.  Places to stay are hard to come by. 
 
Satsuma has Mema's Restraunt (really a tiny, un-modern building) but with great food, a Dollar Store, a Kangaroo service station, a towing company, a fruit stand, a couple of trailer parks (small and not modern) and the Haleigh Bug Center.  I'll be going by there and see what's happening.  Then I'll let you know.  I sure don't think HH will be in any trouble there.  The weather is still messy with a lot of rain and the worse she should be is wet.
 
SMs research on family within driving distance is a good thought.  It's strange nothing has leaked out.  Thanks for all your work.


According to postings on another site, HH is back home, returned home last night.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 29, 2009, 10:22:20 AM
I am sure that HH will be just fine in Satsuma....
who is going to harm her? no one even knows who she is ....
don't understand the worry over this...

She was responding to the post on SM who were concerned about her well being. Don't know.. Have to ask the posters who were concerned.

Heck she should have volunteered to go make a few drug deals, and then can get some more arrests.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 29, 2009, 10:24:02 AM
I received this from our Lady "Eyes of Satsuma", yesterday, after she read our post.

Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 5:52:04 PM
Subject: No "flea bag" hotel in Satsuma

mlee,  If HH is in Satsuma and staying, I don't know where it would be.   There is no hotel/motel in that  area or within 10 miles.  A couple of decent motels in Palatka on 17/100/20 (main road called Reid St.  and a bed&breakfast. South of Satsuma is Crescent City and  there is a Lakeside Motel, but I don't think it's currently open.  Just off 17 on Main St. is a bed and breakfast.  Places to stay are hard to come by. 
 
Satsuma has Mema's Restraunt (really a tiny, un-modern building) but with great food, a Dollar Store, a Kangaroo service station, a towing company, a fruit stand, a couple of trailer parks (small and not modern) and the Haleigh Bug Center.  I'll be going by there and see what's happening.  Then I'll let you know.  I sure don't think HH will be in any trouble there.  The weather is still messy with a lot of rain and the worse she should be is wet.
 
SMs research on family within driving distance is a good thought.  It's strange nothing has leaked out.  Thanks for all your work.


According to postings on another site, HH is back home, returned home last night.

Apparently, one or more of the posters at sm.. thought she was staying overnight.. Don't know..  I was playing over at EffMyPic.com,  amazing site.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 29, 2009, 10:33:23 AM
I received this from our Lady "Eyes of Satsuma", yesterday, after she read our post.

Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 5:52:04 PM
Subject: No "flea bag" hotel in Satsuma

mlee,  If HH is in Satsuma and staying, I don't know where it would be.   There is no hotel/motel in that  area or within 10 miles.  A couple of decent motels in Palatka on 17/100/20 (main road called Reid St.  and a bed&breakfast. South of Satsuma is Crescent City and  there is a Lakeside Motel, but I don't think it's currently open.  Just off 17 on Main St. is a bed and breakfast.  Places to stay are hard to come by. 
 
Satsuma has Mema's Restraunt (really a tiny, un-modern building) but with great food, a Dollar Store, a Kangaroo service station, a towing company, a fruit stand, a couple of trailer parks (small and not modern) and the Haleigh Bug Center.  I'll be going by there and see what's happening.  Then I'll let you know.  I sure don't think HH will be in any trouble there.  The weather is still messy with a lot of rain and the worse she should be is wet.
 
SMs research on family within driving distance is a good thought.  It's strange nothing has leaked out.  Thanks for all your work.


According to postings on another site, HH is back home, returned home last night.

Apparently, one or more of the posters at sm.. thought she was staying overnight.. Don't know..  I was playing over at EffMyPic.com,  amazing site.

I had never heard of it, I will have to check it out melee. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2009, 10:36:51 AM
I was one that said to HH be safe, I say be safe to anyone I know who is going on a trip. Have a safe trip, is all I meant.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 29, 2009, 10:41:13 AM
I was one that said to HH be safe, I say be safe to anyone I know who is going on a trip. Have a safe trip, is all I meant.

don't think it was your post that the poster from another forum was commenting on...jmo....
dunno....
how are you?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 29, 2009, 10:44:21 AM
I was one that said to HH be safe, I say be safe to anyone I know who is going on a trip. Have a safe trip, is all I meant.

don't think it was your post that the poster from another forum was commenting on...jmo....
dunno....
how are you?

No, Cookie it is this forum, she chooses to email me and another Monkey, she has mentioned prior. I have encouraged her to join us as a member.  She seems to be attached and loves to read the postings on our forum.. I take that as a compliment.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2009, 10:48:28 AM
I was one that said to HH be safe, I say be safe to anyone I know who is going on a trip. Have a safe trip, is all I meant.

don't think it was your post that the poster from another forum was commenting on...jmo....
dunno....
how are you?
Angry and frustrated with all these cases, how are you?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 29, 2009, 10:57:05 AM
I was one that said to HH be safe, I say be safe to anyone I know who is going on a trip. Have a safe trip, is all I meant.

don't think it was your post that the poster from another forum was commenting on...jmo....
dunno....
how are you?

No, Cookie it is this forum, she chooses to email me and another Monkey, she has mentioned prior. I have encouraged her to join us as a member.  She seems to be attached and loves to read the postings on our forum.. I take that as a compliment.

that's right....she emails you but reads our forum right? sorry...forgot for a minute that she wasn't from another forum...Yes...she would be most welcome here..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 29, 2009, 10:57:52 AM
I was one that said to HH be safe, I say be safe to anyone I know who is going on a trip. Have a safe trip, is all I meant.

don't think it was your post that the poster from another forum was commenting on...jmo....
dunno....
how are you?
Angry and frustrated with all these cases, how are you?

the very same my friend...the very same...xxxx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 29, 2009, 10:58:45 AM
I was one that said to HH be safe, I say be safe to anyone I know who is going on a trip. Have a safe trip, is all I meant.

I got an email from her late last night and she is safely back (although I was concerned because anyone asking questions there pique's curiousity), and that she did...........very interesting people she spoke with yesterday and can't wait until I'm off work and can hear all the info she dug up!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2009, 11:01:41 AM
I was one that said to HH be safe, I say be safe to anyone I know who is going on a trip. Have a safe trip, is all I meant.

I got an email from her late last night and she is safely back (although I was concerned because anyone asking questions there pique's curiousity), and that she did...........very interesting people she spoke with yesterday and can't wait until I'm off work and can hear all the info she dug up!!
Good to hear, I can imagine the info she dug up  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 29, 2009, 11:04:56 AM
I was one that said to HH be safe, I say be safe to anyone I know who is going on a trip. Have a safe trip, is all I meant.

I got an email from her late last night and she is safely back (although I was concerned because anyone asking questions there pique's curiousity), and that she did...........very interesting people she spoke with yesterday and can't wait until I'm off work and can hear all the info she dug up!!
Good to hear, I can imagine the info she dug up  ::MonkeyEek::

She did say this trip was a real "eye opener", and very fruitful........so, I'll let you know when I know what she dug up!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 29, 2009, 11:09:14 AM
I was one that said to HH be safe, I say be safe to anyone I know who is going on a trip. Have a safe trip, is all I meant.

I got an email from her late last night and she is safely back (although I was concerned because anyone asking questions there pique's curiousity), and that she did...........very interesting people she spoke with yesterday and can't wait until I'm off work and can hear all the info she dug up!!
Good to hear, I can imagine the info she dug up  ::MonkeyEek::

She did say this trip was a real "eye opener", and very fruitful........so, I'll let you know when I know what she dug up!

Well, that sure sounds promising....some new facts maybe to continue with. 

I sure hope the folks that can contribute do not rememer their early school slogan...

SILENCE IS GOLDEN ...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 29, 2009, 11:10:23 AM
gonna try to post this....wish me luck!

this is a picture of Crystal and her dad, which I thought that we had thought was her brother? or do he and dad resemble each other...both wearing camouflage hat..  ...Crystal is holding a picture of missing Haleigh...a poster on here yesterday thought that it was odd that Ron was crying and holding a picture of Haleigh...
also, farther down in the article, Marie says, I'm gonna look around hell and half of Georgia until I find her....Why Georgia?

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090211/ARTICLES/902111009/0/ENTERTAINMENT


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2009, 11:12:08 AM
I was one that said to HH be safe, I say be safe to anyone I know who is going on a trip. Have a safe trip, is all I meant.

I got an email from her late last night and she is safely back (although I was concerned because anyone asking questions there pique's curiousity), and that she did...........very interesting people she spoke with yesterday and can't wait until I'm off work and can hear all the info she dug up!!
Good to hear, I can imagine the info she dug up  ::MonkeyEek::

She did say this trip was a real "eye opener", and very fruitful........so, I'll let you know when I know what she dug up!
Thanks, hope little Elijah is doing fine  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Searching on May 29, 2009, 11:31:18 AM
gonna try to post this....wish me luck!

this is a picture of Crystal and her dad, which I thought that we had thought was her brother? or do he and dad resemble each other...both wearing camouflage hat..  ...Crystal is holding a picture of missing Haleigh...a poster on here yesterday thought that it was odd that Ron was crying and holding a picture of Haleigh...
also, farther down in the article, Marie says, I'm gonna look around hell and half of Georgia until I find her....Why Georgia?

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090211/ARTICLES/902111009/0/ENTERTAINMENT

Hi cookie,
I just wanted to chime in on the photo comment about Ron holding a photo, and Crystal as well. It is standard in a missing persons case for the media,reporter and or liaison to tell you to have an 8x10 photo of the missing person on hand to get the image out there.
Hope that helps


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 29, 2009, 11:32:45 AM
I was one that said to HH be safe, I say be safe to anyone I know who is going on a trip. Have a safe trip, is all I meant.

I got an email from her late last night and she is safely back (although I was concerned because anyone asking questions there pique's curiousity), and that she did...........very interesting people she spoke with yesterday and can't wait until I'm off work and can hear all the info she dug up!!
Good to hear, I can imagine the info she dug up  ::MonkeyEek::

She did say this trip was a real "eye opener", and very fruitful........so, I'll let you know when I know what she dug up!
Thanks, hope little Elijah is doing fine  ::MonkeyAngel::

He is doing fine, although it's like waiting on pins and needles everyday because he can be having a wonderful day then take a turn for he worst...it's like living on the crazy train headed to psychotic most days. Thanks for asking and your continued prayers!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 29, 2009, 11:37:49 AM
gonna try to post this....wish me luck!

this is a picture of Crystal and her dad, which I thought that we had thought was her brother? or do he and dad resemble each other...both wearing camouflage hat..  ...Crystal is holding a picture of missing Haleigh...a poster on here yesterday thought that it was odd that Ron was crying and holding a picture of Haleigh...
also, farther down in the article, Marie says, I'm gonna look around hell and half of Georgia until I find her....Why Georgia?

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090211/ARTICLES/902111009/0/ENTERTAINMENT

Hi cookie,
I just wanted to chime in on the photo comment about Ron holding a photo, and Crystal as well. It is standard in a missing persons case for the media,reporter and or liaison to tell you to have an 8x10 photo of the missing person on hand to get the image out there.
Hope that helps

Hi Searching! that is kindo what I had thought as well..
I wanted the poster here to see that it is probably pretty common...Sorry I can't remember who was asking about the picture holding with Ron......I hadn't really thought much about it until the poster had questioned it...then I started thinking....and just happened to run across this article...
what did you think about the comment that Marie made about searching in Georgia for Haleigh?
good to see you
computer problems cured?
one of my computers had to go in...had it for less than a month...now they have decided to give me a new computer, which I am happy with....good thing it isn't my only one!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 29, 2009, 11:40:39 AM
Seahorse was the poster asking about the picture...I think that Searching has answered the questions about posing with a picture of a missing child....We knew that some smart monkey would know the answers!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 29, 2009, 11:47:08 AM
I received this from our Lady "Eyes of Satsuma", yesterday, after she read our post.

Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 5:52:04 PM
Subject: No "flea bag" hotel in Satsuma

mlee,  If HH is in Satsuma and staying, I don't know where it would be.   There is no hotel/motel in that  area or within 10 miles.  A couple of decent motels in Palatka on 17/100/20 (main road called Reid St.  and a bed&breakfast. South of Satsuma is Crescent City and  there is a Lakeside Motel, but I don't think it's currently open.  Just off 17 on Main St. is a bed and breakfast.  Places to stay are hard to come by. 
 
Satsuma has Mema's Restraunt (really a tiny, un-modern building) but with great food, a Dollar Store, a Kangaroo service station, a towing company, a fruit stand, a couple of trailer parks (small and not modern) and the Haleigh Bug Center.  I'll be going by there and see what's happening.  Then I'll let you know.  I sure don't think HH will be in any trouble there.  The weather is still messy with a lot of rain and the worse she should be is wet.
 
SMs research on family within driving distance is a good thought.  It's strange nothing has leaked out.  Thanks for all your work.


According to postings on another site, HH is back home, returned home last night.

Apparently, one or more of the posters at sm.. thought she was staying overnight.. Don't know..  I was playing over at EffMyPic.com,  amazing site.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: melee (http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/monkey-1.jpg)  i am sooooo slow!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 29, 2009, 11:52:39 AM
I received this from our Lady "Eyes of Satsuma", yesterday, after she read our post.

Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 5:52:04 PM
Subject: No "flea bag" hotel in Satsuma

mlee,  If HH is in Satsuma and staying, I don't know where it would be.   There is no hotel/motel in that  area or within 10 miles.  A couple of decent motels in Palatka on 17/100/20 (main road called Reid St.  and a bed&breakfast. South of Satsuma is Crescent City and  there is a Lakeside Motel, but I don't think it's currently open.  Just off 17 on Main St. is a bed and breakfast.  Places to stay are hard to come by. 
 
Satsuma has Mema's Restraunt (really a tiny, un-modern building) but with great food, a Dollar Store, a Kangaroo service station, a towing company, a fruit stand, a couple of trailer parks (small and not modern) and the Haleigh Bug Center.  I'll be going by there and see what's happening.  Then I'll let you know.  I sure don't think HH will be in any trouble there.  The weather is still messy with a lot of rain and the worse she should be is wet.
 
SMs research on family within driving distance is a good thought.  It's strange nothing has leaked out.  Thanks for all your work.


According to postings on another site, HH is back home, returned home last night.

Apparently, one or more of the posters at sm.. thought she was staying overnight.. Don't know..  I was playing over at EffMyPic.com,  amazing site.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: melee (http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/monkey-1.jpg)  i am sooooo slow!

well I must be slower cause I don't get it.... ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 29, 2009, 11:54:18 AM
I received this from our Lady "Eyes of Satsuma", yesterday, after she read our post.

Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 5:52:04 PM
Subject: No "flea bag" hotel in Satsuma

mlee,  If HH is in Satsuma and staying, I don't know where it would be.   There is no hotel/motel in that  area or within 10 miles.  A couple of decent motels in Palatka on 17/100/20 (main road called Reid St.  and a bed&breakfast. South of Satsuma is Crescent City and  there is a Lakeside Motel, but I don't think it's currently open.  Just off 17 on Main St. is a bed and breakfast.  Places to stay are hard to come by. 
 
Satsuma has Mema's Restraunt (really a tiny, un-modern building) but with great food, a Dollar Store, a Kangaroo service station, a towing company, a fruit stand, a couple of trailer parks (small and not modern) and the Haleigh Bug Center.  I'll be going by there and see what's happening.  Then I'll let you know.  I sure don't think HH will be in any trouble there.  The weather is still messy with a lot of rain and the worse she should be is wet.
 
SMs research on family within driving distance is a good thought.  It's strange nothing has leaked out.  Thanks for all your work.


According to postings on another site, HH is back home, returned home last night.

Apparently, one or more of the posters at sm.. thought she was staying overnight.. Don't know..  I was playing over at EffMyPic.com,  amazing site.

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: melee (http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/monkey-1.jpg)  i am sooooo slow!

well I must be slower cause I don't get it.... ::MonkeyShocked::

scratch that! I took a closer look and I totally get it now.... ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Searching on May 29, 2009, 11:55:09 AM
gonna try to post this....wish me luck!

this is a picture of Crystal and her dad, which I thought that we had thought was her brother? or do he and dad resemble each other...both wearing camouflage hat..  ...Crystal is holding a picture of missing Haleigh...a poster on here yesterday thought that it was odd that Ron was crying and holding a picture of Haleigh...
also, farther down in the article, Marie says, I'm gonna look around hell and half of Georgia until I find her....Why Georgia?

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090211/ARTICLES/902111009/0/ENTERTAINMENT

Hi cookie,
I just wanted to chime in on the photo comment about Ron holding a photo, and Crystal as well. It is standard in a missing persons case for the media,reporter and or liaison to tell you to have an 8x10 photo of the missing person on hand to get the image out there.
Hope that helps

Hi Searching! that is kindo what I had thought as well..
I wanted the poster here to see that it is probably pretty common...Sorry I can't remember who was asking about the picture holding with Ron......I hadn't really thought much about it until the poster had questioned it...then I started thinking....and just happened to run across this article...
what did you think about the comment that Marie made about searching in Georgia for Haleigh?
good to see you
computer problems cured?
one of my computers had to go in...had it for less than a month...now they have decided to give me a new computer, which I am happy with....good thing it isn't my only one!

Hi, yes,it is standard,it is a way of getting the image out there. I find all the Ga. comments quite odd myself, but ehh,that's just me. Things will stand out to me that do not to others.I suppose it is all in how you choose to see it.
computer is so so,still learning this one. Computers are not what they are cracked up to be I do suppose.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 29, 2009, 12:00:22 PM
gonna try to post this....wish me luck!

this is a picture of Crystal and her dad, which I thought that we had thought was her brother? or do he and dad resemble each other...both wearing camouflage hat..  ...Crystal is holding a picture of missing Haleigh...a poster on here yesterday thought that it was odd that Ron was crying and holding a picture of Haleigh...
also, farther down in the article, Marie says, I'm gonna look around hell and half of Georgia until I find her....Why Georgia?

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090211/ARTICLES/902111009/0/ENTERTAINMENT

Hummmmmmm. Sounds like she had a plan.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Searching on May 29, 2009, 12:03:48 PM
Good morning Monkeys and Guests!

#254  wannaknow Says:
May 29th, 2009 at 12:35 am

Well, its good that someone donated enough money for Crystal to pay her child support…At least thats out of the way and now Ronald can maybe hire PI to help with this investigation, but I bet he doesnt….He will spend it on cigarettes and beer and drugs and maybe conoms so that Musty doesnt end up pregnant if she isnt already.. I just wish if there was nothing important to report on the where-a-bouts on Haleigh,then all the other crap we keep hearing would just stop being reported, I dont care about child support owed or who everybody thinks might be on drugs and how bad Cobra is screwing up this case looking for notoriety, I just wanna hear about Haleigh, I just want to hear what LE has to say about where this investigation is leading, have they got any clues at all, do they know anymore than they did before, do they think this is gonna be a cold case or do they think it will be solved, do they still think Haleigh is alive or not…….If everybody would just stop reporting on all the trash that is going around and just report on Haleigh I think this case might get back on track……..God Bless Haleigh!!!!


#255 Art Harris Says:
May 29th, 2009 at 1:01 am

WANNAKNOW:

Great post. We’ve decided to let garbagemen pick up the trash and go through it since it’s impossible to dissect without thick gloves and a nose-pin to keep from smelling the stench. Problem is it’s impossible to understand the circumstances of collection and competing agendas behind it without devoting all our valuable time to juggling jello that often turns out not to be what it was made out to be…We just think it demeans and hurts the credibility of the good folks who have taken to driving the garbage truck.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/#comments

I would be careful with that one heart, I heard a rumor,well not so much rumor,but was told a lawyer is preparing the paperwork against that poster in red due to the slandering of another poster. Apparently that one claimed a person who actually has worked in missing persons and such,of going all over the internet saying bad things about Crystal and also claimed the person was being investigated for obstruction and or some such charge. I read some of the back and forth on that yesterday and was able to contact the accused. It will be a big mess for the accuser,that is for sure. This person accused has a career to protect.so be very careful with believing what that one posts.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Searching on May 29, 2009, 12:07:08 PM
gonna try to post this....wish me luck!

this is a picture of Crystal and her dad, which I thought that we had thought was her brother? or do he and dad resemble each other...both wearing camouflage hat..  ...Crystal is holding a picture of missing Haleigh...a poster on here yesterday thought that it was odd that Ron was crying and holding a picture of Haleigh...
also, farther down in the article, Marie says, I'm gonna look around hell and half of Georgia until I find her....Why Georgia?

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090211/ARTICLES/902111009/0/ENTERTAINMENT

Hummmmmmm. Sounds like she had a plan.

Hi mlee,sounds as though somebody had a plan,must have been a doozy too because Haleigh still has not been found. Poor child,and I feel for Jr. too. Not knowing where his sister is.must be hard on him.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Searching on May 29, 2009, 12:09:54 PM
gonna try to post this....wish me luck!

this is a picture of Crystal and her dad, which I thought that we had thought was her brother? or do he and dad resemble each other...both wearing camouflage hat..  ...Crystal is holding a picture of missing Haleigh...a poster on here yesterday thought that it was odd that Ron was crying and holding a picture of Haleigh...
also, farther down in the article, Marie says, I'm gonna look around hell and half of Georgia until I find her....Why Georgia?

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090211/ARTICLES/902111009/0/ENTERTAINMENT

Hi cookie,
I just wanted to chime in on the photo comment about Ron holding a photo, and Crystal as well. It is standard in a missing persons case for the media,reporter and or liaison to tell you to have an 8x10 photo of the missing person on hand to get the image out there.
Hope that helps

Hi Searching! that is kindo what I had thought as well..
I wanted the poster here to see that it is probably pretty common...Sorry I can't remember who was asking about the picture holding with Ron......I hadn't really thought much about it until the poster had questioned it...then I started thinking....and just happened to run across this article...
what did you think about the comment that Marie made about searching in Georgia for Haleigh?
good to see you
computer problems cured?
one of my computers had to go in...had it for less than a month...now they have decided to give me a new computer, which I am happy with....good thing it isn't my only one!
I am sorry cookie, I wanted to add, when you contact the people from missing and exploited,the first thing they ask for is photos,and the 8x10 are apparently preferred.I went through this, so it is standard for them to request photos and they also tell you to have some 8x10 photos on hand for any interviews in the media to get the image out there.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 29, 2009, 12:16:08 PM
Good morning Monkeys and Guests!

#254  wannaknow Says:
May 29th, 2009 at 12:35 am

Well, its good that someone donated enough money for Crystal to pay her child support…At least thats out of the way and now Ronald can maybe hire PI to help with this investigation, but I bet he doesnt….He will spend it on cigarettes and beer and drugs and maybe conoms so that Musty doesnt end up pregnant if she isnt already.. I just wish if there was nothing important to report on the where-a-bouts on Haleigh,then all the other crap we keep hearing would just stop being reported, I dont care about child support owed or who everybody thinks might be on drugs and how bad Cobra is screwing up this case looking for notoriety, I just wanna hear about Haleigh, I just want to hear what LE has to say about where this investigation is leading, have they got any clues at all, do they know anymore than they did before, do they think this is gonna be a cold case or do they think it will be solved, do they still think Haleigh is alive or not…….If everybody would just stop reporting on all the trash that is going around and just report on Haleigh I think this case might get back on track……..God Bless Haleigh!!!!


#255 Art Harris Says:
May 29th, 2009 at 1:01 am

WANNAKNOW:

Great post. We’ve decided to let garbagemen pick up the trash and go through it since it’s impossible to dissect without thick gloves and a nose-pin to keep from smelling the stench. Problem is it’s impossible to understand the circumstances of collection and competing agendas behind it without devoting all our valuable time to juggling jello that often turns out not to be what it was made out to be…We just think it demeans and hurts the credibility of the good folks who have taken to driving the garbage truck.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/#comments

I would be careful with that one heart, I heard a rumor,well not so much rumor,but was told a lawyer is preparing the paperwork against that poster in red due to the slandering of another poster. Apparently that one claimed a person who actually has worked in missing persons and such,of going all over the internet saying bad things about Crystal and also claimed the person was being investigated for obstruction and or some such charge. I read some of the back and forth on that yesterday and was able to contact the accused. It will be a big mess for the accuser,that is for sure. This person accused has a career to protect.so be very careful with believing what that one posts.

I do not see anything slanderous in the above post regarding Crystal.

Do you have a link regarding what it is you are referring to Searching?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 29, 2009, 12:26:20 PM
Anyone have access to WS... I was just in google running search's on the different Fam's, and something popped up that is listed in WS, something about a Coslin and Beliz.....  Anyone know anything about that?  Me, I'm not a member, don't have access. Google can lead me to it, but I can't get to it...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 29, 2009, 12:27:46 PM
Good morning Monkeys and Guests!

#254  wannaknow Says:
May 29th, 2009 at 12:35 am

Well, its good that someone donated enough money for Crystal to pay her child support…At least thats out of the way and now Ronald can maybe hire PI to help with this investigation, but I bet he doesnt….He will spend it on cigarettes and beer and drugs and maybe conoms so that Musty doesnt end up pregnant if she isnt already.. I just wish if there was nothing important to report on the where-a-bouts on Haleigh,then all the other crap we keep hearing would just stop being reported, I dont care about child support owed or who everybody thinks might be on drugs and how bad Cobra is screwing up this case looking for notoriety, I just wanna hear about Haleigh, I just want to hear what LE has to say about where this investigation is leading, have they got any clues at all, do they know anymore than they did before, do they think this is gonna be a cold case or do they think it will be solved, do they still think Haleigh is alive or not…….If everybody would just stop reporting on all the trash that is going around and just report on Haleigh I think this case might get back on track……..God Bless Haleigh!!!!


#255 Art Harris Says:
May 29th, 2009 at 1:01 am

WANNAKNOW:

Great post. We’ve decided to let garbagemen pick up the trash and go through it since it’s impossible to dissect without thick gloves and a nose-pin to keep from smelling the stench. Problem is it’s impossible to understand the circumstances of collection and competing agendas behind it without devoting all our valuable time to juggling jello that often turns out not to be what it was made out to be…We just think it demeans and hurts the credibility of the good folks who have taken to driving the garbage truck.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/#comments

I would be careful with that one heart, I heard a rumor,well not so much rumor,but was told a lawyer is preparing the paperwork against that poster in red due to the slandering of another poster. Apparently that one claimed a person who actually has worked in missing persons and such,of going all over the internet saying bad things about Crystal and also claimed the person was being investigated for obstruction and or some such charge. I read some of the back and forth on that yesterday and was able to contact the accused. It will be a big mess for the accuser,that is for sure. This person accused has a career to protect.so be very careful with believing what that one posts.

I do not see anything slanderous in the above post regarding Crystal.

Do you have a link regarding what it is you are referring to Searching?

more slanderous toward ron in my opinion....and then says others should not  be reporting trash...kindof cheeky don't ya think?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 29, 2009, 12:28:59 PM
Anyone have access to WS... I was just in google running search's on the different Fam's, and something popped up that is listed in WS, something about a Coslin and Beliz.....  Anyone know anything about that?  Me, I'm not a member, don't have access. Google can lead me to it, but I can't get to it...

don't they allow you to read without being a member? I used to do that ....they wouldn't let me join cause of my email addy ....can you imagine?  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2009, 12:30:53 PM
Anyone have access to WS... I was just in google running search's on the different Fam's, and something popped up that is listed in WS, something about a Coslin and Beliz.....  Anyone know anything about that?  Me, I'm not a member, don't have access. Google can lead me to it, but I can't get to it...
I will try to see, wish me luck.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 29, 2009, 12:32:34 PM
Anyone have access to WS... I was just in google running search's on the different Fam's, and something popped up that is listed in WS, something about a Coslin and Beliz.....  Anyone know anything about that?  Me, I'm not a member, don't have access. Google can lead me to it, but I can't get to it...

don't they allow you to read without being a member? I used to do that ....they wouldn't let me join cause of my email addy ....can you imagine?  ::MonkeyDance::

There are some pages I can pull up, but not this one.. don't know if its a rumor or what. This didn't pull up.. you might try it and see if you can.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2009, 12:43:11 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2009, 12:43:48 PM
I see the page is invalid, sorry, let me go again.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2009, 12:46:10 PM
http://jobs.classifieds1000.com/Belize/Nurse_Jobs/170418-LPN


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Searching on May 29, 2009, 12:50:31 PM
Good morning Monkeys and Guests!

#254  wannaknow Says:
May 29th, 2009 at 12:35 am

Well, its good that someone donated enough money for Crystal to pay her child support…At least thats out of the way and now Ronald can maybe hire PI to help with this investigation, but I bet he doesnt….He will spend it on cigarettes and beer and drugs and maybe conoms so that Musty doesnt end up pregnant if she isnt already.. I just wish if there was nothing important to report on the where-a-bouts on Haleigh,then all the other crap we keep hearing would just stop being reported, I dont care about child support owed or who everybody thinks might be on drugs and how bad Cobra is screwing up this case looking for notoriety, I just wanna hear about Haleigh, I just want to hear what LE has to say about where this investigation is leading, have they got any clues at all, do they know anymore than they did before, do they think this is gonna be a cold case or do they think it will be solved, do they still think Haleigh is alive or not…….If everybody would just stop reporting on all the trash that is going around and just report on Haleigh I think this case might get back on track……..God Bless Haleigh!!!!


#255 Art Harris Says:
May 29th, 2009 at 1:01 am

WANNAKNOW:

Great post. We’ve decided to let garbagemen pick up the trash and go through it since it’s impossible to dissect without thick gloves and a nose-pin to keep from smelling the stench. Problem is it’s impossible to understand the circumstances of collection and competing agendas behind it without devoting all our valuable time to juggling jello that often turns out not to be what it was made out to be…We just think it demeans and hurts the credibility of the good folks who have taken to driving the garbage truck.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/#comments

I would be careful with that one heart, I heard a rumor,well not so much rumor,but was told a lawyer is preparing the paperwork against that poster in red due to the slandering of another poster. Apparently that one claimed a person who actually has worked in missing persons and such,of going all over the internet saying bad things about Crystal and also claimed the person was being investigated for obstruction and or some such charge. I read some of the back and forth on that yesterday and was able to contact the accused. It will be a big mess for the accuser,that is for sure. This person accused has a career to protect.so be very careful with believing what that one posts.

I do not see anything slanderous in the above post regarding Crystal.

Do you have a link regarding what it is you are referring to Searching?
My bad heart, it was crystalsfan whom from what I am told has been determined to be wannaknow as well.
post 243 on the following thread.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/

my question is why keep changing posting names? any who,has nothing to do with me and I will not read there anymore,not after seeing all that when trying to get caught up on what I missed. Sad that this kind of thing is going on in this case. The rumors IMO are just keeping the truth buried.Those spreading them are helping to keep the truth from coming out. again JMO
I have to go let the dogs out 4 pups all 7 months old,keep me on my toes. Though it is fun watching the German shepherd with the chihuahuas,they are the same age and love to play together.Plus training the GSD takes a lot of time.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 29, 2009, 12:50:45 PM
Is this misty's sister in law?  Leaving for Belize..  What is this about Ron, he's going to vac in Belize or SA, think Belize is an Island near Mexico, isn't it?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2009, 12:56:54 PM
Is this misty's sister in law?  Leaving for Belize..  What is this about Ron, he's going to vac in Belize or SA, think Belize is an Island near Mexico, isn't it?
Yes, it is Misty's sister in law. All I know is Ron wants to take a vacation there, with Jr. I will see through the day if anything more is said about this.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 29, 2009, 12:59:25 PM
Is this misty's sister in law?  Leaving for Belize..  What is this about Ron, he's going to vac in Belize or SA, think Belize is an Island near Mexico, isn't it?
Yes, it is Misty's sister in law. All I know is Ron wants to take a vacation there, with Jr. I will see through the day if anything more is said about this.

why? does he think that Haleigh could be there?  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 29, 2009, 01:00:36 PM
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http://jobs.classifieds1000.com/Beli...obs/170418-LPN       Rumor has it Ron has requested to take Jr to Belize, vacation?  South America

Well, I went back to the link that I think heart posted yesterday for the Fla Nurses, etc..  Nothing is coming up for a Croslin with a licence....anyone know her maiden name, maybe they are not legally married.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Searching on May 29, 2009, 01:00:45 PM
http://www.oas.org/Juridico/mla/en/traites/en_traites-ext-usa-blz.pdf

wanted to get this here right quick before i go.
extradition treaty for Belize


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 29, 2009, 01:01:25 PM
Is this misty's sister in law?  Leaving for Belize..  What is this about Ron, he's going to vac in Belize or SA, think Belize is an Island near Mexico, isn't it?
Yes, it is Misty's sister in law. All I know is Ron wants to take a vacation there, with Jr. I will see through the day if anything more is said about this.

why? does he think that Haleigh could be there?  ::MonkeyRoll::

I don't know!  I have never heard anything about this before..  I do remember someone said he went to Texas and Mexico on vacation several years back..  This is new...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 29, 2009, 01:02:51 PM
Is this misty's sister in law?  Leaving for Belize..  What is this about Ron, he's going to vac in Belize or SA, think Belize is an Island near Mexico, isn't it?
Yes, it is Misty's sister in law. All I know is Ron wants to take a vacation there, with Jr. I will see through the day if anything more is said about this.

why? does he think that Haleigh could be there?  ::MonkeyRoll::

Who knows, Cookie...maybe that was part of the plan, and HE sent her there. What a strange case, bunch of people. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 29, 2009, 01:03:20 PM
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http://jobs.classifieds1000.com/Beli...obs/170418-LPN       Rumor has it Ron has requested to take Jr to Belize, vacation?  South America

Well, I went back to the link that I think heart posted yesterday for the Fla Nurses, etc..  Nothing is coming up for a Croslin with a licence....anyone know her maiden name, maybe they are not legally married.

gotta run out but perhaps you could go over to the who is who thread on Haleigh's relatives....see if the names jive?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2009, 01:03:26 PM
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I am a LPN that will be moving to pregresso heights community in Belize around july 2009.
http://jobs.classifieds1000.com/Beli...obs/170418-LPN       Rumor has it Ron has requested to take Jr to Belize, vacation?  South America

Well, I went back to the link that I think heart posted yesterday for the Fla Nurses, etc..  Nothing is coming up for a Croslin with a licence....anyone know her maiden name, maybe they are not legally married.
Lindsy hasn't graduated yet, not for a couple more months, I guess according to her myspace, which I don't have.  Pirate from WS, posted this, ( Ron has not petitioned the court that I am aware of. But he has asked Crystal if he could take Jr. to South America this summer to visit a family member. ) So again, who knows?  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 29, 2009, 01:13:43 PM
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I am a LPN that will be moving to pregresso heights community in Belize around july 2009.
http://jobs.classifieds1000.com/Beli...obs/170418-LPN       Rumor has it Ron has requested to take Jr to Belize, vacation?  South America

Well, I went back to the link that I think heart posted yesterday for the Fla Nurses, etc..  Nothing is coming up for a Croslin with a licence....anyone know her maiden name, maybe they are not legally married.
Lindsy hasn't graduated yet, not for a couple more months, I guess according to her myspace, which I don't have.  Pirate from WS, posted this, ( Ron has not petitioned the court that I am aware of. But he has asked Crystal if he could take Jr. to South America this summer to visit a family member. ) So again, who knows?  ::MonkeyConfused::

Well, Golly Molly.. Am I surprised.. Naw..  I bet one day the LE in Putnam and Baker County, may well look around, and all of the familes have gone to Beliz....  Except for Johnny and Connie, their heading for Ketucky..   What have I learned today,  Connie of course I knew was a Nurse,  Marie is a Nurse, and now Misty's sister in Law is an LPN.   I guess keep it in the families.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 29, 2009, 01:15:09 PM
Good morning Monkeys and Guests!

#254  wannaknow Says:
May 29th, 2009 at 12:35 am

Well, its good that someone donated enough money for Crystal to pay her child support…At least thats out of the way and now Ronald can maybe hire PI to help with this investigation, but I bet he doesnt….He will spend it on cigarettes and beer and drugs and maybe conoms so that Musty doesnt end up pregnant if she isnt already.. I just wish if there was nothing important to report on the where-a-bouts on Haleigh,then all the other crap we keep hearing would just stop being reported, I dont care about child support owed or who everybody thinks might be on drugs and how bad Cobra is screwing up this case looking for notoriety, I just wanna hear about Haleigh, I just want to hear what LE has to say about where this investigation is leading, have they got any clues at all, do they know anymore than they did before, do they think this is gonna be a cold case or do they think it will be solved, do they still think Haleigh is alive or not…….If everybody would just stop reporting on all the trash that is going around and just report on Haleigh I think this case might get back on track……..God Bless Haleigh!!!!


#255 Art Harris Says:
May 29th, 2009 at 1:01 am

WANNAKNOW:

Great post. We’ve decided to let garbagemen pick up the trash and go through it since it’s impossible to dissect without thick gloves and a nose-pin to keep from smelling the stench. Problem is it’s impossible to understand the circumstances of collection and competing agendas behind it without devoting all our valuable time to juggling jello that often turns out not to be what it was made out to be…We just think it demeans and hurts the credibility of the good folks who have taken to driving the garbage truck.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/#comments

I would be careful with that one heart, I heard a rumor,well not so much rumor,but was told a lawyer is preparing the paperwork against that poster in red due to the slandering of another poster. Apparently that one claimed a person who actually has worked in missing persons and such,of going all over the internet saying bad things about Crystal and also claimed the person was being investigated for obstruction and or some such charge. I read some of the back and forth on that yesterday and was able to contact the accused. It will be a big mess for the accuser,that is for sure. This person accused has a career to protect.so be very careful with believing what that one posts.

I do not see anything slanderous in the above post regarding Crystal.

Do you have a link regarding what it is you are referring to Searching?
My bad heart, it was crystalsfan whom from what I am told has been determined to be wannaknow as well.
post 243 on the following thread.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/

my question is why keep changing posting names? any who,has nothing to do with me and I will not read there anymore,not after seeing all that when trying to get caught up on what I missed. Sad that this kind of thing is going on in this case. The rumors IMO are just keeping the truth buried.Those spreading them are helping to keep the truth from coming out. again JMO
I have to go let the dogs out 4 pups all 7 months old,keep me on my toes. Though it is fun watching the German shepherd with the chihuahuas,they are the same age and love to play together.Plus training the GSD takes a lot of time.

It is very sad Searching.   Have fun with the dogs!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 29, 2009, 01:21:34 PM
http://www.oas.org/Juridico/mla/en/traites/en_traites-ext-usa-blz.pdf

wanted to get this here right quick before i go.
extradition treaty for Belize

If Ron chose to stay in Beliz, or SA..  If the State of Florida has no charges against him, then there would be no extradition.
If he has contacted Crystal and received her permission to take Little Ron, which was a kindness, since he has Custody and she has visitation. I imagine he has already contacted DCS of his plans.. Seems like he is covering all bases.  Therefore if he decided to remain there,  Crystal has no recourse on this.  He isn't breaking any laws.  And Beliz doesn't have to recognize the custody visitation issue in Florida anyway..  If he close to live there, then he is bound by laws that mandate Beliz.  When a child leaves this Country in the Care of the Legal Parent,  and there has been no illegal activity involved. The other parent is standing in a sinking ship.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 29, 2009, 01:27:58 PM
God Bless Haleigh

Wonder where this photo of Haleigh is???   Is it on the top of memaw's????

Just catching up. Grama, it appears that picture of Haleigh is made from a generator at http://www.effmypic.com/ ... where you upload an image and choose an effect to use. It is not a "real" photo.

Good morning, monkeys ;-)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 29, 2009, 01:29:09 PM
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I am a LPN that will be moving to pregresso heights community in Belize around july 2009.
http://jobs.classifieds1000.com/Beli...obs/170418-LPN       Rumor has it Ron has requested to take Jr to Belize, vacation?  South America

Well, I went back to the link that I think heart posted yesterday for the Fla Nurses, etc..  Nothing is coming up for a Croslin with a licence....anyone know her maiden name, maybe they are not legally married.
Lindsy hasn't graduated yet, not for a couple more months, I guess according to her myspace, which I don't have.  Pirate from WS, posted this, ( Ron has not petitioned the court that I am aware of. But he has asked Crystal if he could take Jr. to South America this summer to visit a family member. ) So again, who knows?  ::MonkeyConfused::

Well, Golly Molly.. Am I surprised.. Naw..  I bet one day the LE in Putnam and Baker County, may well look around, and all of the familes have gone to Beliz....  Except for Johnny and Connie, their heading for Ketucky..   What have I learned today,  Connie of course I knew was a Nurse,  Marie is a Nurse, and now Misty's sister in Law is an LPN.   I guess keep it in the families.

Is Marie a Nurse or a Nures Assistant?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 29, 2009, 01:35:24 PM
Good morning Monkeys and Guests!

#254  wannaknow Says:
May 29th, 2009 at 12:35 am

Well, its good that someone donated enough money for Crystal to pay her child support…At least thats out of the way and now Ronald can maybe hire PI to help with this investigation, but I bet he doesnt….He will spend it on cigarettes and beer and drugs and maybe conoms so that Musty doesnt end up pregnant if she isnt already.. I just wish if there was nothing important to report on the where-a-bouts on Haleigh,then all the other crap we keep hearing would just stop being reported, I dont care about child support owed or who everybody thinks might be on drugs and how bad Cobra is screwing up this case looking for notoriety, I just wanna hear about Haleigh, I just want to hear what LE has to say about where this investigation is leading, have they got any clues at all, do they know anymore than they did before, do they think this is gonna be a cold case or do they think it will be solved, do they still think Haleigh is alive or not…….If everybody would just stop reporting on all the trash that is going around and just report on Haleigh I think this case might get back on track……..God Bless Haleigh!!!!


#255 Art Harris Says:
May 29th, 2009 at 1:01 am

WANNAKNOW:

Great post. We’ve decided to let garbagemen pick up the trash and go through it since it’s impossible to dissect without thick gloves and a nose-pin to keep from smelling the stench. Problem is it’s impossible to understand the circumstances of collection and competing agendas behind it without devoting all our valuable time to juggling jello that often turns out not to be what it was made out to be…We just think it demeans and hurts the credibility of the good folks who have taken to driving the garbage truck.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/#comments

I would be careful with that one heart, I heard a rumor,well not so much rumor,but was told a lawyer is preparing the paperwork against that poster in red due to the slandering of another poster. Apparently that one claimed a person who actually has worked in missing persons and such,of going all over the internet saying bad things about Crystal and also claimed the person was being investigated for obstruction and or some such charge. I read some of the back and forth on that yesterday and was able to contact the accused. It will be a big mess for the accuser,that is for sure. This person accused has a career to protect.so be very careful with believing what that one posts.

I do not see anything slanderous in the above post regarding Crystal.

Do you have a link regarding what it is you are referring to Searching?
My bad heart, it was crystalsfan whom from what I am told has been determined to be wannaknow as well.
post 243 on the following thread.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/

my question is why keep changing posting names? any who,has nothing to do with me and I will not read there anymore,not after seeing all that when trying to get caught up on what I missed. Sad that this kind of thing is going on in this case. The rumors IMO are just keeping the truth buried.Those spreading them are helping to keep the truth from coming out. again JMO
I have to go let the dogs out 4 pups all 7 months old,keep me on my toes. Though it is fun watching the German shepherd with the chihuahuas,they are the same age and love to play together.Plus training the GSD takes a lot of time.

It is very sad Searching.   Have fun with the dogs!


Why do people do this.. quite simple they have an agenda..  they enjoy the control, they manipulate the conversation.. Some could be paid to do this.. If they have the ability to mask and use separate IP address's, then they can enter a forum room under multi personalities.  this leads to a bit of confusion.  And if they are slandering anyone , yea I guess they can be charged. Can they be tracked.. I'm sure that LE can track even a masked IP.  They FBI does that all the time, tracking Hackers. That's how they find them, they can find anybody on the web. Anybody..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 29, 2009, 01:35:28 PM
God Bless Haleigh

Wonder where this photo of Haleigh is???   Is it on the top of memaw's????

Just catching up. Grama, it appears that picture of Haleigh is made from a generatorhttp://www.effmypic.com/ ... where you upload an image and choose an effect to use. It is not a "real" photo.

Good morning, monkeys ;-)

Thanks, Brandi ~ 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: jaggard19 on May 29, 2009, 01:42:01 PM
Please, light a candle for Haleigh!  Prayers that she is brought home, safe and sound.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Halei




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 29, 2009, 01:43:59 PM
ENTRY/EXIT REQUIREMENTS :  All U.S. citizens must have a U.S. passport valid  for the duration of their visit to Belize.  U.S. citizens do not need visas for tourist visits of up to thirty days, but they must have onward or return air tickets and proof of sufficient funds to maintain themselves while in Belize.  Visitors for purposes other than tourism, or who wish to stay longer than 30 days, must obtain visas from the government of Belize.  All tourists and non-Belizean nationalities are required to pay an exit fee of U.S. $35 (payable in U.S. dollars only) when leaving Belize. Additional information on entry and customs requirements may be obtained from the Embassy of Belize at 2535 Massachusetts Avenue NW, Washington, DC  20008, Tel. (202) 332-9636 or at their web site:  http://www.embassyofbelize.org. 

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1055.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2009, 01:45:19 PM
Please, light a candle for Haleigh!  Prayers that she is brought home, safe and sound.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Halei



I just did ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2009, 01:46:54 PM
ENTRY/EXIT REQUIREMENTS :  All U.S. citizens must have a U.S. passport valid  for the duration of their visit to Belize.  U.S. citizens do not need visas for tourist visits of up to thirty days, but they must have onward or return air tickets and proof of sufficient funds to maintain themselves while in Belize.  Visitors for purposes other than tourism, or who wish to stay longer than 30 days, must obtain visas from the government of Belize.  All tourists and non-Belizean nationalities are required to pay an exit fee of U.S. $35 (payable in U.S. dollars only) when leaving Belize. Additional information on entry and customs requirements may be obtained from the Embassy of Belize at 2535 Massachusetts Avenue NW, Washington, DC  20008, Tel. (202) 332-9636 or at their web site:  http://www.embassyofbelize.org. 

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1055.html
What do you think about all the chatter in the parking lot over this? I must be really stupid, I've never heard of Belize until today  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 29, 2009, 01:59:20 PM
Good morning Monkeys and Guests!

#254  wannaknow Says:
May 29th, 2009 at 12:35 am

Well, its good that someone donated enough money for Crystal to pay her child support…At least thats out of the way and now Ronald can maybe hire PI to help with this investigation, but I bet he doesnt….He will spend it on cigarettes and beer and drugs and maybe conoms so that Musty doesnt end up pregnant if she isnt already.. I just wish if there was nothing important to report on the where-a-bouts on Haleigh,then all the other crap we keep hearing would just stop being reported, I dont care about child support owed or who everybody thinks might be on drugs and how bad Cobra is screwing up this case looking for notoriety, I just wanna hear about Haleigh, I just want to hear what LE has to say about where this investigation is leading, have they got any clues at all, do they know anymore than they did before, do they think this is gonna be a cold case or do they think it will be solved, do they still think Haleigh is alive or not…….If everybody would just stop reporting on all the trash that is going around and just report on Haleigh I think this case might get back on track……..God Bless Haleigh!!!!


#255 Art Harris Says:
May 29th, 2009 at 1:01 am

WANNAKNOW:

Great post. We’ve decided to let garbagemen pick up the trash and go through it since it’s impossible to dissect without thick gloves and a nose-pin to keep from smelling the stench. Problem is it’s impossible to understand the circumstances of collection and competing agendas behind it without devoting all our valuable time to juggling jello that often turns out not to be what it was made out to be…We just think it demeans and hurts the credibility of the good folks who have taken to driving the garbage truck.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/#comments

I would be careful with that one heart, I heard a rumor,well not so much rumor,but was told a lawyer is preparing the paperwork against that poster in red due to the slandering of another poster. Apparently that one claimed a person who actually has worked in missing persons and such,of going all over the internet saying bad things about Crystal and also claimed the person was being investigated for obstruction and or some such charge. I read some of the back and forth on that yesterday and was able to contact the accused. It will be a big mess for the accuser,that is for sure. This person accused has a career to protect.so be very careful with believing what that one posts.

I do not see anything slanderous in the above post regarding Crystal.

Do you have a link regarding what it is you are referring to Searching?
My bad heart, it was crystalsfan whom from what I am told has been determined to be wannaknow as well.
post 243 on the following thread.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/

my question is why keep changing posting names? any who,has nothing to do with me and I will not read there anymore,not after seeing all that when trying to get caught up on what I missed. Sad that this kind of thing is going on in this case. The rumors IMO are just keeping the truth buried.Those spreading them are helping to keep the truth from coming out. again JMO
I have to go let the dogs out 4 pups all 7 months old,keep me on my toes. Though it is fun watching the German shepherd with the chihuahuas,they are the same age and love to play together.Plus training the GSD takes a lot of time.

It is very sad Searching.   Have fun with the dogs!


Why do people do this.. quite simple they have an agenda..  they enjoy the control, they manipulate the conversation.. Some could be paid to do this.. If they have the ability to mask and use separate IP address's, then they can enter a forum room under multi personalities.  this leads to a bit of confusion.  And if they are slandering anyone , yea I guess they can be charged. Can they be tracked.. I'm sure that LE can track even a masked IP.  They FBI does that all the time, tracking Hackers. That's how they find them, they can find anybody on the web. Anybody..

Sadly, the reality is that there are potentially going to be a few people who post that could possibly have mental health issues also. Just saying...
Nevertheless, if LE is suspicious of a poster they can track people via the internet at any time, which is a good thing in IMHO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 29, 2009, 02:02:15 PM
Is this misty's sister in law?  Leaving for Belize..  What is this about Ron, he's going to vac in Belize or SA, think Belize is an Island near Mexico, isn't it?
Yes, it is Misty's sister in law. All I know is Ron wants to take a vacation there, with Jr. I will see through the day if anything more is said about this.

why? does he think that Haleigh could be there?  ::MonkeyRoll::

Who the hooty hell takes a vacation to another country when their 5 year-old daughter is missing??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 29, 2009, 02:03:48 PM
ENTRY/EXIT REQUIREMENTS :  All U.S. citizens must have a U.S. passport valid  for the duration of their visit to Belize.  U.S. citizens do not need visas for tourist visits of up to thirty days, but they must have onward or return air tickets and proof of sufficient funds to maintain themselves while in Belize.  Visitors for purposes other than tourism, or who wish to stay longer than 30 days, must obtain visas from the government of Belize.  All tourists and non-Belizean nationalities are required to pay an exit fee of U.S. $35 (payable in U.S. dollars only) when leaving Belize. Additional information on entry and customs requirements may be obtained from the Embassy of Belize at 2535 Massachusetts Avenue NW, Washington, DC  20008, Tel. (202) 332-9636 or at their web site:  http://www.embassyofbelize.org. 

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1055.html
What do you think about all the chatter in the parking lot over this? I must be really stupid, I've never heard of Belize until today  ::MonkeyConfused::

I don't think any of the forums that have info about this case, agrees with their lifestyle nor their choices.  Guess we shall see what transpires.  First she must pass her course exam to be a nurse, then I am sure one must get some testing done in order to legally work there.  There is a lot of paperwork to be filed first....and it just maybe dreams on their end.

If it isn't....then Ron is as sad as a rock bout Haleigh.  I sure hope Crystal gets her eggs all in the same basket and soon. I do know that i order for a US paret to move that they must have the approval of the non custodial parent. 

Is this the place to take a 5 yr old for a vcacation??? What is wrong with going to Disney World?? The link I posted above, has a lot of info about the crime that is being committed. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 29, 2009, 02:05:23 PM
Is this misty's sister in law?  Leaving for Belize..  What is this about Ron, he's going to vac in Belize or SA, think Belize is an Island near Mexico, isn't it?
Yes, it is Misty's sister in law. All I know is Ron wants to take a vacation there, with Jr. I will see through the day if anything more is said about this.

why? does he think that Haleigh could be there?  ::MonkeyRoll::

Who the hooty hell takes a vacation to another country when their 5 year-old daughter is missing??
I have zero idea Brandi. I'm speechless.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 29, 2009, 02:07:57 PM
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I am a LPN that will be moving to pregresso heights community in Belize around july 2009.
http://jobs.classifieds1000.com/Beli...obs/170418-LPN       Rumor has it Ron has requested to take Jr to Belize, vacation?  South America

Well, I went back to the link that I think heart posted yesterday for the Fla Nurses, etc..  Nothing is coming up for a Croslin with a licence....anyone know her maiden name, maybe they are not legally married.
Lindsy hasn't graduated yet, not for a couple more months, I guess according to her myspace, which I don't have.  Pirate from WS, posted this, ( Ron has not petitioned the court that I am aware of. But he has asked Crystal if he could take Jr. to South America this summer to visit a family member. ) So again, who knows?  ::MonkeyConfused::

Well, Golly Molly.. Am I surprised.. Naw..  I bet one day the LE in Putnam and Baker County, may well look around, and all of the familes have gone to Beliz....  Except for Johnny and Connie, their heading for Ketucky..   What have I learned today,  Connie of course I knew was a Nurse,  Marie is a Nurse, and now Misty's sister in Law is an LPN.   I guess keep it in the families.

Is Marie a Nurse or a Nures Assistant?

I believe it was posted here yesterday or the day before, that Marie is a CNA .. certified nurse assistant, not a licensed nurse.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 29, 2009, 02:09:01 PM
Question:
Do we know yet exactly where Ron was staying or who he was staying with when he took the kids to Texas?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 29, 2009, 02:09:23 PM
Is this misty's sister in law?  Leaving for Belize..  What is this about Ron, he's going to vac in Belize or SA, think Belize is an Island near Mexico, isn't it?
Yes, it is Misty's sister in law. All I know is Ron wants to take a vacation there, with Jr. I will see through the day if anything more is said about this.

why? does he think that Haleigh could be there?  ::MonkeyRoll::

Who the hooty hell takes a vacation to another country when their 5 year-old daughter is missing??

UMMMM  RON CUMMINGS????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 29, 2009, 02:12:24 PM
Searching, it is so good to have you back!!! I made this little welcome back image for you the other day, but I didn't see you post after I made it. Hurry back and stay back. LOL

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 29, 2009, 02:13:46 PM
ENTRY/EXIT REQUIREMENTS :  All U.S. citizens must have a U.S. passport valid  for the duration of their visit to Belize.  U.S. citizens do not need visas for tourist visits of up to thirty days, but they must have onward or return air tickets and proof of sufficient funds to maintain themselves while in Belize.  Visitors for purposes other than tourism, or who wish to stay longer than 30 days, must obtain visas from the government of Belize.  All tourists and non-Belizean nationalities are required to pay an exit fee of U.S. $35 (payable in U.S. dollars only) when leaving Belize. Additional information on entry and customs requirements may be obtained from the Embassy of Belize at 2535 Massachusetts Avenue NW, Washington, DC  20008, Tel. (202) 332-9636 or at their web site:  http://www.embassyofbelize.org. 

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1055.html
What do you think about all the chatter in the parking lot over this? I must be really stupid, I've never heard of Belize until today  ::MonkeyConfused::

My stepson built homes for the homeless there on a church mission trip, very poor and somewhat dangerous country.......wouldn't want my small kids there, and didn't really want my stepson there when he was 18yrs old. BUT, MLEE regarding this statement:

Ron contacted Crystal and received her permission to take Little Ron, which was a kindness, since he has Custody and she has visitation.

IIRC~they have joint custody, and he has residential custody..........in TN where I was divorced that meant exactly that JOINT decision making, and he would have HAD to ask permission unless he had full custodial rights, especially to take a child out of the country.......and FWIW, she's a h@ll of a lot nicer than I would be, I wouldn't let him out of my sight with butterbean after my other child disappeared on his watch technically....,not a chance in h#ll!!!!!!!!!!!!!111


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 29, 2009, 02:19:42 PM
ENTRY/EXIT REQUIREMENTS :  All U.S. citizens must have a U.S. passport valid  for the duration of their visit to Belize.  U.S. citizens do not need visas for tourist visits of up to thirty days, but they must have onward or return air tickets and proof of sufficient funds to maintain themselves while in Belize.  Visitors for purposes other than tourism, or who wish to stay longer than 30 days, must obtain visas from the government of Belize.  All tourists and non-Belizean nationalities are required to pay an exit fee of U.S. $35 (payable in U.S. dollars only) when leaving Belize. Additional information on entry and customs requirements may be obtained from the Embassy of Belize at 2535 Massachusetts Avenue NW, Washington, DC  20008, Tel. (202) 332-9636 or at their web site:  http://www.embassyofbelize.org. 

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1055.html
What do you think about all the chatter in the parking lot over this? I must be really stupid, I've never heard of Belize until today  ::MonkeyConfused::

My stepson built homes for the homeless there on a church mission trip, very poor and somewhat dangerous country.......wouldn't want my small kids there, and didn't really want my stepson there when he was 18yrs old. BUT, MLEE regarding this statement:

Ron contacted Crystal and received her permission to take Little Ron, which was a kindness, since he has Custody and she has visitation.

IIRC~they have joint custody, and he has residential custody..........in TN where I was divorced that meant exactly that JOINT decision making, and he would have HAD to ask permission unless he had full custodial rights, especially to take a child out of the country.......and FWIW, she's a h@ll of a lot nicer than I would be, I wouldn't let him out of my sight with butterbean after my other child disappeared on his watch technically....,not a chance in h#ll!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

This makes no sense to me. If she is so concerned about the well-being of her children in Ronald's custody, that she has filed papers with DCF ... why on earth would she agree to let him take her son out of the country, where our legal system would not be able to protect him?

Just boggles my mind.

Makes no sense to me on any front.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 29, 2009, 02:24:56 PM
Is this misty's sister in law?  Leaving for Belize..  What is this about Ron, he's going to vac in Belize or SA, think Belize is an Island near Mexico, isn't it?
Yes, it is Misty's sister in law. All I know is Ron wants to take a vacation there, with Jr. I will see through the day if anything more is said about this.

why? does he think that Haleigh could be there?  ::MonkeyRoll::

Who the hooty hell takes a vacation to another country when their 5 year-old daughter is missing??

UMMMM  RON CUMMINGS????

Exactly.....same one that gets married directly after their child goes missing to the "dumb biatch" that let their child get stole.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 29, 2009, 02:24:58 PM
ENTRY/EXIT REQUIREMENTS :  All U.S. citizens must have a U.S. passport valid  for the duration of their visit to Belize.  U.S. citizens do not need visas for tourist visits of up to thirty days, but they must have onward or return air tickets and proof of sufficient funds to maintain themselves while in Belize.  Visitors for purposes other than tourism, or who wish to stay longer than 30 days, must obtain visas from the government of Belize.  All tourists and non-Belizean nationalities are required to pay an exit fee of U.S. $35 (payable in U.S. dollars only) when leaving Belize. Additional information on entry and customs requirements may be obtained from the Embassy of Belize at 2535 Massachusetts Avenue NW, Washington, DC  20008, Tel. (202) 332-9636 or at their web site:  http://www.embassyofbelize.org. 

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1055.html
What do you think about all the chatter in the parking lot over this? I must be really stupid, I've never heard of Belize until today  ::MonkeyConfused::

My stepson built homes for the homeless there on a church mission trip, very poor and somewhat dangerous country.......wouldn't want my small kids there, and didn't really want my stepson there when he was 18yrs old. BUT, MLEE regarding this statement:

Ron contacted Crystal and received her permission to take Little Ron, which was a kindness, since he has Custody and she has visitation.

IIRC~they have joint custody, and he has residential custody..........in TN where I was divorced that meant exactly that JOINT decision making, and he would have HAD to ask permission unless he had full custodial rights, especially to take a child out of the country.......and FWIW, she's a h@ll of a lot nicer than I would be, I wouldn't let him out of my sight with butterbean after my other child disappeared on his watch technically....,not a chance in h#ll!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

This makes no sense to me. If she is so concerned about the well-being of her children in Ronald's custody, that she has filed papers with DCF ... why on earth would she agree to let him take her son out of the country, where our legal system would not be able to protect him?

Just boggles my mind.

Makes no sense to me on any front.


Makes no sense to me either which leads me to consider that this could potentially be a rumor either in part or in whole.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 29, 2009, 02:30:11 PM
If it were true that Crystal would or did give Ron permission to take little Butterbean to Belize then I am more confused than ever.
Either Crystal herself had something to do with Haleigh's disappearance, which I personally have not seen enough evidence to prove any suchathing, or she is desperately trying to believe that Ron had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance either? Maybe?
gah.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 29, 2009, 02:33:23 PM
Seems to me that LE and DCF would bar Ron from leaving the country in light of the fact that Haleigh is missing and that no one has been cleared. Plain and simple IMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 29, 2009, 02:39:23 PM
Seems to me that LE and DCF would bar Ron from leaving the country in light of the fact that Haleigh is missing and that no one has been cleared. Plain and simple IMO.

I think I'll wait until I have more reason to believe that it is a fact, not just a rumor that Ronald is planning a vacation out of the country with his son to comment further on this.

It's just too outlandish for me to wrap my brain around right now. LOL



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 29, 2009, 02:40:07 PM
Seems to me that LE and DCF would bar Ron from leaving the country in light of the fact that Haleigh is missing and that no one has been cleared. Plain and simple IMO.

I think I'll wait until I have more reason to believe that it is a fact, not just a rumor that Ronald is planning a vacation out of the country with his son to comment further on this.

It's just too outlandish for me to wrap my brain around right now. LOL

Me too Brandi. (My brain hurts right now lol.)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 29, 2009, 02:47:58 PM
Seems to me that LE and DCF would bar Ron from leaving the country in light of the fact that Haleigh is missing and that no one has been cleared. Plain and simple IMO.

I think I'll wait until I have more reason to believe that it is a fact, not just a rumor that Ronald is planning a vacation out of the country with his son to comment further on this.

It's just too outlandish for me to wrap my brain around right now. LOL

Me too Brandi. (My brain hurts right now lol.)

Me three........just beyond comprehension to be honest!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 29, 2009, 02:51:01 PM
If it were true that Crystal would or did give Ron permission to take little Butterbean to Belize then I am more confused than ever.
Either Crystal herself had something to do with Haleigh's disappearance, which I personally have not seen enough evidence to prove any suchathing, or she is desperately trying to believe that Ron had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance either? Maybe?
gah.

Okay, stop just a few moments and ask yourself that question again.. Why would she??   Lets try a few words, Trust, Reliability,
Safety..  If these words don't fit..  Then why would she?  Why would any Mother in her situation, ever consider letting her child leave the safety of this County, and her reach?   If it still doesn't click in,  Ask yourself, what would happen if she had said NO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 29, 2009, 02:54:44 PM
Do we have any information on Haleigh's Great Aunt Patricia?
Such as where she lives and her family tree?
Just curious.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 29, 2009, 02:55:16 PM
If it were true that Crystal would or did give Ron permission to take little Butterbean to Belize then I am more confused than ever.
Either Crystal herself had something to do with Haleigh's disappearance, which I personally have not seen enough evidence to prove any suchathing, or she is desperately trying to believe that Ron had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance either? Maybe?
gah.

Okay, stop just a few moments and ask yourself that question again.. Why would she??   Lets try a few words, Trust, Reliability,
Safety..  If these words don't fit..  Then why would she?  Why would any Mother in her situation, ever consider letting her child leave the safety of this County, and her reach?   If it still doesn't click in,  Ask yourself, what would happen if she had said NO.

I can't even ask myself those questions because IMO, this is so ridiculous that until I KNOW this one is fact over rumor, there is no need in even considering any questions..........I'll call Marie over this one and find out as this is crazy.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 29, 2009, 02:57:50 PM
If it were true that Crystal would or did give Ron permission to take little Butterbean to Belize then I am more confused than ever.
Either Crystal herself had something to do with Haleigh's disappearance, which I personally have not seen enough evidence to prove any suchathing, or she is desperately trying to believe that Ron had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance either? Maybe?
gah.

Okay, stop just a few moments and ask yourself that question again.. Why would she??   Lets try a few words, Trust, Reliability,
Safety..  If these words don't fit..  Then why would she?  Why would any Mother in her situation, ever consider letting her child leave the safety of this County, and her reach?   If it still doesn't click in,  Ask yourself, what would happen if she had said NO.
Wow.
I think I need a cranial band-aid.
I'm gonna go take care of a few things. I'll BBL and maybe we can discuss this then....or not.
Seriously Mlee my head hurts over this one.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 29, 2009, 02:59:32 PM
Is this misty's sister in law?  Leaving for Belize..  What is this about Ron, he's going to vac in Belize or SA, think Belize is an Island near Mexico, isn't it?
Yes, it is Misty's sister in law. All I know is Ron wants to take a vacation there, with Jr. I will see through the day if anything more is said about this.


HI Monkeys,

Maybe Ron wants to get lost in the sauce.

Seahorse


why? does he think that Haleigh could be there?  ::MonkeyRoll::

Who the hooty hell takes a vacation to another country when their 5 year-old daughter is missing??

UMMMM  RON CUMMINGS????

Exactly.....same one that gets married directly after their child goes missing to the "dumb biatch" that let their child get stole.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 29, 2009, 03:00:20 PM
Seems to me that LE and DCF would bar Ron from leaving the country in light of the fact that Haleigh is missing and that no one has been cleared. Plain and simple IMO.

I agree with this....I am thinking that it is just another rumor...plain and simple..

also, some friends of mine go to Belize and they just love it...have never had any problems there at all as far as it being dangerous to travel to...they have a friend who owns a home there and they stay there every year for 2 or more weeks at a time...they love it....Very laid back there from what they said...Can't see Ron and his group having much fun there...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 29, 2009, 03:05:49 PM
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I am a LPN that will be moving to pregresso heights community in Belize around july 2009.
http://jobs.classifieds1000.com/Beli...obs/170418-LPN       Rumor has it Ron has requested to take Jr to Belize, vacation?  South America

Well, I went back to the link that I think heart posted yesterday for the Fla Nurses, etc..  Nothing is coming up for a Croslin with a licence....anyone know her maiden name, maybe they are not legally married.
Lindsy hasn't graduated yet, not for a couple more months, I guess according to her myspace, which I don't have.  Pirate from WS, posted this, ( Ron has not petitioned the court that I am aware of. But he has asked Crystal if he could take Jr. to South America this summer to visit a family member. ) So again, who knows?  ::MonkeyConfused::

Well, Golly Molly.. Am I surprised.. Naw..  I bet one day the LE in Putnam and Baker County, may well look around, and all of the familes have gone to Beliz....  Except for Johnny and Connie, their heading for Ketucky..   What have I learned today,  Connie of course I knew was a Nurse,  Marie is a Nurse, and now Misty's sister in Law is an LPN.   I guess keep it in the families.

Is Marie a Nurse or a Nures Assistant?

I believe it was posted here yesterday or the day before, that Marie is a CNA .. certified nurse assistant, not a licensed nurse.



Thanks Brandi, I thought that was what I read.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 29, 2009, 03:07:04 PM
Well, the President was just talking about securing your data and the safety of the internet..  Never know.. you might pull up someone on a Forum and chat with them, and they turn to be one of the Big Boys....   Big Brother in Action.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 29, 2009, 03:07:52 PM
ENTRY/EXIT REQUIREMENTS :  All U.S. citizens must have a U.S. passport valid  for the duration of their visit to Belize.  U.S. citizens do not need visas for tourist visits of up to thirty days, but they must have onward or return air tickets and proof of sufficient funds to maintain themselves while in Belize.  Visitors for purposes other than tourism, or who wish to stay longer than 30 days, must obtain visas from the government of Belize.  All tourists and non-Belizean nationalities are required to pay an exit fee of U.S. $35 (payable in U.S. dollars only) when leaving Belize. Additional information on entry and customs requirements may be obtained from the Embassy of Belize at 2535 Massachusetts Avenue NW, Washington, DC  20008, Tel. (202) 332-9636 or at their web site:  http://www.embassyofbelize.org. 

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1055.html
What do you think about all the chatter in the parking lot over this? I must be really stupid, I've never heard of Belize until today  ::MonkeyConfused::

I don't think any of the forums that have info about this case, agrees with their lifestyle nor their choices.  Guess we shall see what transpires.  First she must pass her course exam to be a nurse, then I am sure one must get some testing done in order to legally work there.  There is a lot of paperwork to be filed first....and it just maybe dreams on their end.

If it isn't....then Ron is as sad as a rock bout Haleigh.  I sure hope Crystal gets her eggs all in the same basket and soon. I do know that i order for a US paret to move that they must have the approval of the non custodial parent. 

Is this the place to take a 5 yr old for a vcacation??? What is wrong with going to Disney World?? The link I posted above, has a lot of info about the crime that is being committed. 


IMO

There are too many camera's at Disney World.  If you want total privacy another island may be the way to go. The US has camera's, everywhere, so the next place would be out of the country. The law may have a problem with following someone
out of the country, then, again he may go in the opposite direction, too. They are sneaks, IMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 29, 2009, 03:08:19 PM
Is this misty's sister in law?  Leaving for Belize..  What is this about Ron, he's going to vac in Belize or SA, think Belize is an Island near Mexico, isn't it?
Yes, it is Misty's sister in law. All I know is Ron wants to take a vacation there, with Jr. I will see through the day if anything more is said about this.


HI Monkeys,

Maybe Ron wants to get lost in the sauce.

Seahorse


why? does he think that Haleigh could be there?  ::MonkeyRoll::

Who the hooty hell takes a vacation to another country when their 5 year-old daughter is missing??

UMMMM  RON CUMMINGS????

Exactly.....same one that gets married directly after their child goes missing to the "dumb biatch" that let their child get stole.

Oh my all this hostility behind a rumor.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 29, 2009, 03:08:46 PM
Seems to me that LE and DCF would bar Ron from leaving the country in light of the fact that Haleigh is missing and that no one has been cleared. Plain and simple IMO.

I agree with this....I am thinking that it is just another rumor...plain and simple..

also, some friends of mine go to Belize and they just love it...have never had any problems there at all as far as it being dangerous to travel to...they have a friend who owns a home there and they stay there every year for 2 or more weeks at a time...they love it....Very laid back there from what they said...Can't see Ron and his group having much fun there...

Maybe this is the Honeymoon trip... with child..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 29, 2009, 03:18:24 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 29, 2009, 03:29:09 PM
Seems to me that LE and DCF would bar Ron from leaving the country in light of the fact that Haleigh is missing and that no one has been cleared. Plain and simple IMO.

Patricia,

Common sense rules, DCF, doubtfully, would allow the child to be taken out of the country.  I read that DCF still investigating
the child, it is very unlikely they would support a vacation out of the country by any means. Thank-you for a reality check.
I seriously doubt that DCF ,would allow this pair, to take the child out of the state, let alone out of the country. Good thinking Patricia.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 29, 2009, 03:32:19 PM
Seems to me that LE and DCF would bar Ron from leaving the country in light of the fact that Haleigh is missing and that no one has been cleared. Plain and simple IMO.

Patricia,

Common sense rules, DCF, doubtfully, would allow the child to be taken out of the country.  I read that DCF still investigating
the child, it is very unlikely they would support a vacation out of the country by any means. Thank-you for a reality check.
I seriously doubt that DCF ,would allow this pair, to take the child out of the state, let alone out of the country. Good thinking Patricia.

also if I was Crystal, I would fight this every step of the way..
am sure this is just another rumor going around...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 29, 2009, 03:33:44 PM
Seems to me that LE and DCF would bar Ron from leaving the country in light of the fact that Haleigh is missing and that no one has been cleared. Plain and simple IMO.

Patricia,

Common sense rules, DCF, doubtfully, would allow the child to be taken out of the country.  I read that DCF still investigating
the child, it is very unlikely they would support a vacation out of the country by any means. Thank-you for a reality check.
I seriously doubt that DCF ,would allow this pair, to take the child out of the state, let alone out of the country. Good thinking Patricia.

Ditto~not to mention how on earth would he afford it?????

Just talked with HH............lot's of neighbors talking about R/M around there, no shock there I guess in a town that small. Where I live it's so small if you sneeze someone 3 blocks away brings you a tissue.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2009, 03:37:29 PM
If it were true that Crystal would or did give Ron permission to take little Butterbean to Belize then I am more confused than ever.
Either Crystal herself had something to do with Haleigh's disappearance, which I personally have not seen enough evidence to prove any suchathing, or she is desperately trying to believe that Ron had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance either? Maybe?
gah.

Okay, stop just a few moments and ask yourself that question again.. Why would she??   Lets try a few words, Trust, Reliability,
Safety..  If these words don't fit..  Then why would she?  Why would any Mother in her situation, ever consider letting her child leave the safety of this County, and her reach?   If it still doesn't click in,  Ask yourself, what would happen if she had said NO.

I can't even ask myself those questions because IMO, this is so ridiculous that until I KNOW this one is fact over rumor, there is no need in even considering any questions..........I'll call Marie over this one and find out as this is crazy.
All I know is that pirate at ws is saying this, and this person has been reliable in the past, other then that I would not know, everything in this case is outlandish.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 29, 2009, 03:39:50 PM
If it were true that Crystal would or did give Ron permission to take little Butterbean to Belize then I am more confused than ever.
Either Crystal herself had something to do with Haleigh's disappearance, which I personally have not seen enough evidence to prove any suchathing, or she is desperately trying to believe that Ron had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance either? Maybe?
gah.

Okay, stop just a few moments and ask yourself that question again.. Why would she??   Lets try a few words, Trust, Reliability,
Safety..  If these words don't fit..  Then why would she?  Why would any Mother in her situation, ever consider letting her child leave the safety of this County, and her reach?   If it still doesn't click in,  Ask yourself, what would happen if she had said NO.

I can't even ask myself those questions because IMO, this is so ridiculous that until I KNOW this one is fact over rumor, there is no need in even considering any questions..........I'll call Marie over this one and find out as this is crazy.
All I know is that pirate at ws is saying this, and this person has been reliable in the past, other then that I would not know, everything in this case is outlandish.

Hmmm, yes I am familiar with Pirate....but I don't think Crystal would ever go for this, and you are dead on about everything in this case being outlandish and beyond extreme. I think I need a drink already (but, it is 5 o'clock somewhere)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
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Patricia's Friends & Family (3 of 26)
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Ruby Johns Glen Saint Mary, FL
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The grandaunt, Patricia Yeomans, is also a Baker County school bus driver, and reminders of Haleigh can be found all over the bus garage on Lowder Street in Macclenny. There are notes on the bulletin board, employees wear Haleigh pins and each bus grill in the yard is adorned with a pink ribbon in her honor.

http://bakercountypress.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2122&Itemid=79


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2009, 04:06:20 PM
If it were true that Crystal would or did give Ron permission to take little Butterbean to Belize then I am more confused than ever.
Either Crystal herself had something to do with Haleigh's disappearance, which I personally have not seen enough evidence to prove any suchathing, or she is desperately trying to believe that Ron had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance either? Maybe?
gah.

Okay, stop just a few moments and ask yourself that question again.. Why would she??   Lets try a few words, Trust, Reliability,
Safety..  If these words don't fit..  Then why would she?  Why would any Mother in her situation, ever consider letting her child leave the safety of this County, and her reach?   If it still doesn't click in,  Ask yourself, what would happen if she had said NO.

I can't even ask myself those questions because IMO, this is so ridiculous that until I KNOW this one is fact over rumor, there is no need in even considering any questions..........I'll call Marie over this one and find out as this is crazy.
All I know is that pirate at ws is saying this, and this person has been reliable in the past, other then that I would not know, everything in this case is outlandish.

Hmmm, yes I am familiar with Pirate....but I don't think Crystal would ever go for this, and you are dead on about everything in this case being outlandish and beyond extreme. I think I need a drink already (but, it is 5 o'clock somewhere)
Maybe HH heard something about this? I'm sure she got an earfull from the neighbors.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 29, 2009, 04:35:59 PM
 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyTongue::  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Ron must have gotten drift that the MONKEYS WERE INVADING SATSUMA

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 29, 2009, 04:40:01 PM
If it were true that Crystal would or did give Ron permission to take little Butterbean to Belize then I am more confused than ever.
Either Crystal herself had something to do with Haleigh's disappearance, which I personally have not seen enough evidence to prove any suchathing, or she is desperately trying to believe that Ron had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance either? Maybe?
gah.

Okay, stop just a few moments and ask yourself that question again.. Why would she??   Lets try a few words, Trust, Reliability,
Safety..  If these words don't fit..  Then why would she?  Why would any Mother in her situation, ever consider letting her child leave the safety of this County, and her reach?   If it still doesn't click in,  Ask yourself, what would happen if she had said NO.

I can't even ask myself those questions because IMO, this is so ridiculous that until I KNOW this one is fact over rumor, there is no need in even considering any questions..........I'll call Marie over this one and find out as this is crazy.
All I know is that pirate at ws is saying this, and this person has been reliable in the past, other then that I would not know, everything in this case is outlandish.

Hmmm, yes I am familiar with Pirate....but I don't think Crystal would ever go for this, and you are dead on about everything in this case being outlandish and beyond extreme. I think I need a drink already (but, it is 5 o'clock somewhere)
Maybe HH heard something about this? I'm sure she got an earfull from the neighbors.

No, I asked about this directly but she was talking with neighbors etc of R/M's........and yes an earful is a kind way to put it. From what I heard they were always fighting outside the trailer, she would threaten to leave and he would scream at her, smack her around a bit and tell her and the kids the get their @ss back in the trailer, not the most positive report, but pretty much what I expected to hear from those close by.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2009, 04:50:58 PM
Thanks Island, no surprise to me ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on May 29, 2009, 05:00:20 PM
Thanks Island, no surprise to me ::MonkeyNoNo::

YW~ Have a great weekend Monkeys, I'm headed out sans laptop to enjoy the weekend.

God Bless Haleigh!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2009, 05:02:13 PM
Thanks Island, no surprise to me ::MonkeyNoNo::

YW~ Have a great weekend Monkeys, I'm headed out sans laptop to enjoy the weekend.

God Bless Haleigh!
Have a great weekend ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 29, 2009, 05:13:39 PM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing66.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 29, 2009, 05:22:47 PM
New article:

http://www.bloggernews.net/121055


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 29, 2009, 06:01:26 PM
How far would Beliz be from Florida???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 29, 2009, 06:03:52 PM
How far would Beliz be from Florida???

The total distance from Miami, FL to Belize is 804 miles.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 29, 2009, 06:04:13 PM
If the rumor is true....Lindsey C.and family going to Beliz....Rc,Jr.and Mc going....and the houses were so close together....hmmmmm?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 29, 2009, 06:05:29 PM
How far would Beliz be from Florida???

The total distance from Miami, FL to Belize is 804 miles.

Oh wow I thought it was a lot farther...that is interesting ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 29, 2009, 06:06:22 PM
This is probably a stupid question but are ther islands there?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 29, 2009, 06:09:13 PM
New article:

http://www.bloggernews.net/121055

And the lack of news, and the lack of info from the families will continue..  Hopefully,  Art will be staying in the case, maybe Cobra will, but he cannot investigate anything.  I have noticed, nothing has hit HLN.. Not a word from Satsuma.  I imagine, Kim is staying out of the picture, I think Jeremiah will be also.. Crystal has gone home. And, the Cummings are keeping to themselves. None of them have anything they wish to put out to the Public, it would just bring up the Laundry airing of last week.  Can we find Haleigh.  NO.. We can't.   When they feel the time is right, she will be brought back home.  What good does it do any of us, to learn that Ron and Misty might be having marital spats, that is not news..  No body has called LE, so I guess all is well in the Sykes - Cummings World.   I guess we will just set back and watch the moving vans, as they leave town..  Life for these Families will never be the same in either community.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 29, 2009, 06:12:57 PM
This is probably a stupid question but are ther islands there?

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/belize-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 29, 2009, 06:26:01 PM
This is probably a stupid question but are ther islands there?

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/belize-1.jpg)

Thanks mlee....I am so non geographical.... ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 29, 2009, 06:52:31 PM
Here is the view...

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/belize.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 29, 2009, 06:53:03 PM
Good Evening Monkey's..... ::MonkeyTongue::
Coffee Anyone....




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 29, 2009, 07:02:40 PM
If the rumor is true....Lindsey C.and family going to Beliz....Rc,Jr.and Mc going....and the houses were so close together....hmmmmm?

Hi 2cents,

Did a poster mention you need a passport for Beliz?  Did Lindsey's family apply for passports?  This sounds a bazaar.
I'm just thinking if Ronald and Misty have passports, if needed? Isn't Junior is being investigated by DCF?
Wouldn't it be crazy,taking him on a vacation far away? curious.

http://www.travelbelize.org/
http://www.governmentofbelize.gov.bz/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 29, 2009, 07:06:19 PM
Good Evening Monkey's..... ::MonkeyTongue::
Coffee Anyone....

Thanks Jersey ~  That should hold us off on a few rounds.   ::MonkeyWink::

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/coffeemonkey.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 29, 2009, 07:20:00 PM
If the rumor is true....Lindsey C.and family going to Beliz....Rc,Jr.and Mc going....and the houses were so close together....hmmmmm?

Hi 2cents,

Did a poster mention you need a passport for Beliz?  Did Lindsey's family apply for passports?  This sounds a bazaar.
I'm just thinking if Ronald and Misty have passports, if needed? Isn't Junior is being investigated by DCF?
Wouldn't it be crazy,taking him on a vacation far away? curious.

http://www.travelbelize.org/
http://www.governmentofbelize.gov.bz/


a poster did say that you have to have a passport for Beliz....we don't know if they have passports or not....wonder if there is a place to look for pending passport applications?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2009, 07:20:13 PM
This is probably a stupid question but are ther islands there?

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/belize-1.jpg)

Thanks mlee....I am so non geographical.... ::MonkeyConfused::
Don't feel bad, I never heard of this place until today.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2009, 07:21:42 PM
Thanks Jerseygirl, coffee with a little Baileys in it sounds good.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 29, 2009, 07:24:45 PM
If the rumor is true....Lindsey C.and family going to Beliz....Rc,Jr.and Mc going....and the houses were so close together....hmmmmm?

Hi 2cents,

Did a poster mention you need a passport for Beliz?  Did Lindsey's family apply for passports?  This sounds a bazaar.
I'm just thinking if Ronald and Misty have passports, if needed? Isn't Junior is being investigated by DCF?
Wouldn't it be crazy,taking him on a vacation far away? curious.

http://www.travelbelize.org/
http://www.governmentofbelize.gov.bz/


a poster did say that you have to have a passport for Beliz....we don't know if they have passports or not....wonder if there is a place to look for pending passport applications?

To check the status of your application online you will need:

Your last name, including suffixes without punctuations except the hyphen, (for example: Jones III, Patton Jr, Jackson-Smith, O Brien, Mc Queen, Varela Garcia),
Date of birth in the following format:  MM/DD/YYYY, and
The last four digits of your Social Security Number.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 29, 2009, 07:25:43 PM
For those interested,
Quote
With the exception of cruise ship passengers, all visitors to Belize must present a valid passport before entering the country. Please note that driver's licenses and birth certificates are not approved travel documents and cannot be used to enter the country.

http://www.travelbelize.org/plan-your-visit/getting-here/entry-requirements-2.html

Personally, I am waiting before I jump on the Belize vacation bandwagon. I think it is all just rumor at this point.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 29, 2009, 07:27:44 PM
Thanks Jerseygirl, coffee with a little Baileys in it sounds good.

MMMMMM.....not too keen on the Baileys (milky) but the Kahlua hits my spot.  My son came one day and no milk for coffee, so he used..Vodka Mudshake....similar to the two.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 29, 2009, 07:29:19 PM
If the rumor is true....Lindsey C.and family going to Beliz....Rc,Jr.and Mc going....and the houses were so close together....hmmmmm?

Hi 2cents,

Did a poster mention you need a passport for Beliz?  Did Lindsey's family apply for passports?  This sounds a bazaar.
I'm just thinking if Ronald and Misty have passports, if needed? Isn't Junior is being investigated by DCF?
Wouldn't it be crazy,taking him on a vacation far away? curious.

http://www.travelbelize.org/
http://www.governmentofbelize.gov.bz/


a poster did say that you have to have a passport for Beliz....we don't know if they have passports or not....wonder if there is a place to look for pending passport applications?

last four digits of ss# ....well crap!
To check the status of your application online you will need:

Your last name, including suffixes without punctuations except the hyphen, (for example: Jones III, Patton Jr, Jackson-Smith, O Brien, Mc Queen, Varela Garcia),
Date of birth in the following format:  MM/DD/YYYY, and
The last four digits of your Social Security Number.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 29, 2009, 07:30:34 PM
If the rumor is true....Lindsey C.and family going to Beliz....Rc,Jr.and Mc going....and the houses were so close together....hmmmmm?

Hi 2cents,

Did a poster mention you need a passport for Beliz?  Did Lindsey's family apply for passports?  This sounds a bazaar.
I'm just thinking if Ronald and Misty have passports, if needed? Isn't Junior is being investigated by DCF?
Wouldn't it be crazy,taking him on a vacation far away? curious.

http://www.travelbelize.org/
http://www.governmentofbelize.gov.bz/


a poster did say that you have to have a passport for Beliz....we don't know if they have passports or not....wonder if there is a place to look for pending passport applications?

last four digits of ss# ....well crap!
To check the status of your application online you will need:

Your last name, including suffixes without punctuations except the hyphen, (for example: Jones III, Patton Jr, Jackson-Smith, O Brien, Mc Queen, Varela Garcia),
Date of birth in the following format:  MM/DD/YYYY, and
The last four digits of your Social Security Number.

last four digits of ss#...well crap!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 29, 2009, 07:34:57 PM
If the rumor is true....Lindsey C.and family going to Beliz....Rc,Jr.and Mc going....and the houses were so close together....hmmmmm?

Hi 2cents,

Did a poster mention you need a passport for Beliz?  Did Lindsey's family apply for passports?  This sounds a bazaar.
I'm just thinking if Ronald and Misty have passports, if needed? Isn't Junior is being investigated by DCF?
Wouldn't it be crazy,taking him on a vacation far away? curious.

http://www.travelbelize.org/
http://www.governmentofbelize.gov.bz/


a poster did say that you have to have a passport for Beliz....we don't know if they have passports or not....wonder if there is a place to look for pending passport applications?

last four digits of ss# ....well crap!
To check the status of your application online you will need:

Your last name, including suffixes without punctuations except the hyphen, (for example: Jones III, Patton Jr, Jackson-Smith, O Brien, Mc Queen, Varela Garcia),
Date of birth in the following format:  MM/DD/YYYY, and
The last four digits of your Social Security Number.





 Q. Do I need a passport to visit Belize?

A. Yes! All foreign nationals need a passport to enter Belize. Citizens of some countries also require a visa. Citizens of the United States, Canada and most western European countries do not require a visa. Please check and secure necessary documents before your trip
 
 


http://www.hamanasi.com/faq.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on May 29, 2009, 07:37:08 PM
The answer is no we do not need a passport to visit Belize.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 29, 2009, 07:41:15 PM
For those interested,
Quote
With the exception of cruise ship passengers, all visitors to Belize must present a valid passport before entering the country. Please note that driver's licenses and birth certificates are not approved travel documents and cannot be used to enter the country.

http://www.travelbelize.org/plan-your-visit/getting-here/entry-requirements-2.html

Personally, I am waiting before I jump on the Belize vacation bandwagon. I think it is all just rumor at this point.



It may well be, gosh if we play our cards right, maybe they will invite us to go too..  Summer in Beliz.. would really be nice.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 29, 2009, 07:44:13 PM
The answer is no we do not need a passport to visit Belize.

The passport issue, I believe came up with Grama and I, and it was in relation to the rumor actually beginning as being South America, then it turned to Beliz..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 29, 2009, 08:36:27 PM
Monkey's Rock...... ::MonkeyDance::

Well, If they are moving I just wonder if they are selling stuff on craigs list..
We know some of their furniture from pics that have been posted.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2009, 08:53:48 PM
Monkey's Rock...... ::MonkeyDance::

Well, If they are moving I just wonder if they are selling stuff on craigs list..
We know some of their furniture from pics that have been posted.... ::MonkeyTongue::
I know I wouldn't want to buy any of that furniture  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 29, 2009, 08:59:14 PM
Monkey's Rock...... ::MonkeyDance::

Well, If they are moving I just wonder if they are selling stuff on craigs list..
We know some of their furniture from pics that have been posted.... ::MonkeyTongue::
I know I wouldn't want to buy any of that furniture  ::MonkeyEek::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 29, 2009, 09:01:48 PM
I am sorry posted the wrong  little pics...

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 29, 2009, 09:06:19 PM
Did HH get back yet from Satsuma yet with any pics or news update? ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 29, 2009, 09:17:34 PM
The answer is no we do not need a passport to visit Belize.

Hi Guys!!!!
Just kind of lurking today... but you misread the above... you do need a passport but not a visa
if anyone wants to try to figure out a ss# this is the best I can offer
http://people.howstuffworks.com/social-security-number2.htm
doubt it will help much but.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 29, 2009, 09:21:03 PM
Monkey's Rock...... ::MonkeyDance::

Well, If they are moving I just wonder if they are selling stuff on craigs list..
We know some of their furniture from pics that have been posted.... ::MonkeyTongue::

Do you have the actual link for something that they are selling?
usually I can find out info via craigslist postings


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 29, 2009, 09:22:43 PM
curiosity question:   what is this "parking lot" that I always here about on here... I don't see any links for it ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 29, 2009, 09:22:48 PM
Monkey's Rock...... ::MonkeyDance::

Well, If they are moving I just wonder if they are selling stuff on craigs list..
We know some of their furniture from pics that have been posted.... ::MonkeyTongue::

Do you have the actual link for something that they are selling?
usually I can find out info via craigslist postings

no I dont have a link.. I just subjected if they are moving that they might be selling stuff on craigs list.. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 29, 2009, 09:25:01 PM
Welcome new monkey's.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 29, 2009, 09:37:13 PM
This dude must serve his time on the weekends. Because every Friday he has been booked for at least the last three weeks for the same charge.

JIMMIE  LEE  WILLIAMS
PALATKA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/29/2009 7:06:38 PM  - Booking#: 09-01537
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 7/4/1978 -  RACE: B  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
784.03-1a1   BATTERY TOUCH OR STRIKE   M   F    $0.00    
                $0.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=753512&IMG=55404


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 29, 2009, 09:39:08 PM
curiosity question:   what is this "parking lot" that I always here about on here... I don't see any links for it ::MonkeyConfused::

Hi penny for your thoughts, the parking lot is not on this site.  It is over on the Websleuths site and you have to be a member there to access it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 29, 2009, 09:43:12 PM
curiosity question:   what is this "parking lot" that I always here about on here... I don't see any links for it ::MonkeyConfused::

Hi penny for your thoughts, the parking lot is not on this site.  It is over on the Websleuths site and you have to be a member there to access it.

oh okay that makes sense now
well maybe they will let me join now since i used my work email address... kind of dumb the email denial thing, but whatever


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 29, 2009, 09:50:23 PM
Seems to me that LE and DCF would bar Ron from leaving the country in light of the fact that Haleigh is missing and that no one has been cleared. Plain and simple IMO.

Patricia,

Common sense rules, DCF, doubtfully, would allow the child to be taken out of the country.  I read that DCF still investigating
the child, it is very unlikely they would support a vacation out of the country by any means. Thank-you for a reality check.
I seriously doubt that DCF ,would allow this pair, to take the child out of the state, let alone out of the country. Good thinking Patricia.

Ditto~not to mention how on earth would he afford it?????

Just talked with HH............lot's of neighbors talking about R/M around there, no shock there I guess in a town that small. Where I live it's so small if you sneeze someone 3 blocks away brings you a tissue.

Yeah, and if HH was in Ron's neck of the woods, there would probably be lots of talk about Crystal and her family...that is how it is...depends on whose crowd you would be visiting with I would guess..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 29, 2009, 09:54:49 PM
For those interested,
Quote
With the exception of cruise ship passengers, all visitors to Belize must present a valid passport before entering the country. Please note that driver's licenses and birth certificates are not approved travel documents and cannot be used to enter the country.

http://www.travelbelize.org/plan-your-visit/getting-here/entry-requirements-2.html

Personally, I am waiting before I jump on the Belize vacation bandwagon. I think it is all just rumor at this point.



me too....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 29, 2009, 10:00:19 PM
New article:

http://www.bloggernews.net/121055

And the lack of news, and the lack of info from the families will continue..  Hopefully,  Art will be staying in the case, maybe Cobra will, but he cannot investigate anything.  I have noticed, nothing has hit HLN.. Not a word from Satsuma.  I imagine, Kim is staying out of the picture, I think Jeremiah will be also.. Crystal has gone home. And, the Cummings are keeping to themselves. None of them have anything they wish to put out to the Public, it would just bring up the Laundry airing of last week.  Can we find Haleigh.  NO.. We can't.   When they feel the time is right, she will be brought back home.  What good does it do any of us, to learn that Ron and Misty might be having marital spats, that is not news..  No body has called LE, so I guess all is well in the Sykes - Cummings World.   I guess we will just set back and watch the moving vans, as they leave town..  Life for these Families will never be the same in either community.


FYI

NutZ R Us wrote:
Hey you all...my security cought a trojan downloader from the Art Harris site...all I did was click the link here and read that Ava thingie.. Just thought you should know.

HaleysNana wrote:
I've heard about that happening to several people . There were people on Art's talking about it. Maybe somebody's got it in for Art lol...

http://www.topix.com/city/satsuma-fl/2009/02/missing-5-year-old-florida-girl-likely-was-abducted-police-say/p1767


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 29, 2009, 10:02:02 PM
For those interested,
Quote
With the exception of cruise ship passengers, all visitors to Belize must present a valid passport before entering the country. Please note that driver's licenses and birth certificates are not approved travel documents and cannot be used to enter the country.

http://www.travelbelize.org/plan-your-visit/getting-here/entry-requirements-2.html

Personally, I am waiting before I jump on the Belize vacation bandwagon. I think it is all just rumor at this point.



me too....

You got room for another, I am not ready for a wagon ride just yet  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 29, 2009, 10:03:58 PM
 Heart....always room for one more.... ::MonkeyDance:: the more the merrier!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 29, 2009, 10:04:21 PM
This dude must serve his time on the weekends. Because every Friday he has been booked for at least the last three weeks for the same charge.

JIMMIE  LEE  WILLIAMS
PALATKA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/29/2009 7:06:38 PM  - Booking#: 09-01537
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 7/4/1978 -  RACE: B  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
784.03-1a1   BATTERY TOUCH OR STRIKE   M   F    $0.00    
                $0.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=753512&IMG=55404

Can't remember if he was discussed before or not, but I think he is serving the weekends in jail.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 29, 2009, 10:08:14 PM
For those interested,
Quote
With the exception of cruise ship passengers, all visitors to Belize must present a valid passport before entering the country. Please note that driver's licenses and birth certificates are not approved travel documents and cannot be used to enter the country.

http://www.travelbelize.org/plan-your-visit/getting-here/entry-requirements-2.html

Personally, I am waiting before I jump on the Belize vacation bandwagon. I think it is all just rumor at this point.



me too....

You got room for another, I am not ready for a wagon ride just yet  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Besides being out of work, I doubt by July he would have any money left to go either.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 29, 2009, 10:20:23 PM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Animation4.gif)

This makes #80.

Decided today was a day to post two of them. Hope no one minds.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on May 29, 2009, 10:23:55 PM
Well somebody named Penny thought it was news enough, they took it over to Topix and posted it.. and left the link.

Penny...

1 hr ago
Judged:
 1
The rumor is L.C.and family going to "Beliz" Rc,Jr.and Mc are also in the rumor. I would discount the Knuckle Heads, because, he only had
20.00 last week, remember, after working and paying for gas? So it would be impossible for his
to afford the three of them to join in for the fun.

They were trying to find out if a passport is manatory for Beliz. It seems like since this is only a rumor, we shouldn't bite on it.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 29, 2009, 10:24:30 PM
Good morning Monkeys and Guests!

#254  wannaknow Says:
May 29th, 2009 at 12:35 am

Well, its good that someone donated enough money for Crystal to pay her child support…At least thats out of the way and now Ronald can maybe hire PI to help with this investigation, but I bet he doesnt….He will spend it on cigarettes and beer and drugs and maybe conoms so that Musty doesnt end up pregnant if she isnt already.. I just wish if there was nothing important to report on the where-a-bouts on Haleigh,then all the other crap we keep hearing would just stop being reported, I dont care about child support owed or who everybody thinks might be on drugs and how bad Cobra is screwing up this case looking for notoriety, I just wanna hear about Haleigh, I just want to hear what LE has to say about where this investigation is leading, have they got any clues at all, do they know anymore than they did before, do they think this is gonna be a cold case or do they think it will be solved, do they still think Haleigh is alive or not…….If everybody would just stop reporting on all the trash that is going around and just report on Haleigh I think this case might get back on track……..God Bless Haleigh!!!!


#255 Art Harris Says:
May 29th, 2009 at 1:01 am

WANNAKNOW:

Great post. We’ve decided to let garbagemen pick up the trash and go through it since it’s impossible to dissect without thick gloves and a nose-pin to keep from smelling the stench. Problem is it’s impossible to understand the circumstances of collection and competing agendas behind it without devoting all our valuable time to juggling jello that often turns out not to be what it was made out to be…We just think it demeans and hurts the credibility of the good folks who have taken to driving the garbage truck.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/#comments

I would be careful with that one heart, I heard a rumor,well not so much rumor,but was told a lawyer is preparing the paperwork against that poster in red due to the slandering of another poster. Apparently that one claimed a person who actually has worked in missing persons and such,of going all over the internet saying bad things about Crystal and also claimed the person was being investigated for obstruction and or some such charge. I read some of the back and forth on that yesterday and was able to contact the accused. It will be a big mess for the accuser,that is for sure. This person accused has a career to protect.so be very careful with believing what that one posts.

Searching is this what you were referring to:

|
#37142

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post37142


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 29, 2009, 10:26:24 PM
Good morning Monkeys and Guests!

#254  wannaknow Says:
May 29th, 2009 at 12:35 am

Well, its good that someone donated enough money for Crystal to pay her child support…At least thats out of the way and now Ronald can maybe hire PI to help with this investigation, but I bet he doesnt….He will spend it on cigarettes and beer and drugs and maybe conoms so that Musty doesnt end up pregnant if she isnt already.. I just wish if there was nothing important to report on the where-a-bouts on Haleigh,then all the other crap we keep hearing would just stop being reported, I dont care about child support owed or who everybody thinks might be on drugs and how bad Cobra is screwing up this case looking for notoriety, I just wanna hear about Haleigh, I just want to hear what LE has to say about where this investigation is leading, have they got any clues at all, do they know anymore than they did before, do they think this is gonna be a cold case or do they think it will be solved, do they still think Haleigh is alive or not…….If everybody would just stop reporting on all the trash that is going around and just report on Haleigh I think this case might get back on track……..God Bless Haleigh!!!!


#255 Art Harris Says:
May 29th, 2009 at 1:01 am

WANNAKNOW:

Great post. We’ve decided to let garbagemen pick up the trash and go through it since it’s impossible to dissect without thick gloves and a nose-pin to keep from smelling the stench. Problem is it’s impossible to understand the circumstances of collection and competing agendas behind it without devoting all our valuable time to juggling jello that often turns out not to be what it was made out to be…We just think it demeans and hurts the credibility of the good folks who have taken to driving the garbage truck.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/23/haleigh-cummings-cobra-arrested-bonds-out/#comments

I would be careful with that one heart, I heard a rumor,well not so much rumor,but was told a lawyer is preparing the paperwork against that poster in red due to the slandering of another poster. Apparently that one claimed a person who actually has worked in missing persons and such,of going all over the internet saying bad things about Crystal and also claimed the person was being investigated for obstruction and or some such charge. I read some of the back and forth on that yesterday and was able to contact the accused. It will be a big mess for the accuser,that is for sure. This person accused has a career to protect.so be very careful with believing what that one posts.

I do not see anything slanderous in the above post regarding Crystal.

Do you have a link regarding what it is you are referring to Searching?
My bad heart, it was crystalsfan whom from what I am told has been determined to be wannaknow as well.
post 243 on the following thread.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/

my question is why keep changing posting names? any who,has nothing to do with me and I will not read there anymore,not after seeing all that when trying to get caught up on what I missed. Sad that this kind of thing is going on in this case. The rumors IMO are just keeping the truth buried.Those spreading them are helping to keep the truth from coming out. again JMO
I have to go let the dogs out 4 pups all 7 months old,keep me on my toes. Though it is fun watching the German shepherd with the chihuahuas,they are the same age and love to play together.Plus training the GSD takes a lot of time.

Searching is this what you were referring to:

|
#37142

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post37142


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 29, 2009, 10:29:03 PM
Sorry for the double post.  My computer got hung up!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 29, 2009, 10:30:26 PM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Animation4.gif)

This makes #80.

Decided today was a day to post two of them. Hope no one minds.


I don't mind Brandi.. We need to keep Haleigh beautiful face out there... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 29, 2009, 10:31:58 PM
Thanks Brandi  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 29, 2009, 10:39:58 PM
Thanks Brandi  ::MonkeyAngel::

Beautiful as all the others.  I love to see the pics, you will never get a nay nay out of me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 29, 2009, 10:44:39 PM
Thanks Brandi  ::MonkeyAngel::

Beautiful as all the others.  I love to see the pics, you will never get a nay nay out of me.

Isn't that one of our cast of characters in Satsuma? tee hee! Amber's friend?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 29, 2009, 10:57:27 PM
Thanks Brandi  ::MonkeyAngel::

Beautiful as all the others.  I love to see the pics, you will never get a nay nay out of me.

Isn't that one of our cast of characters in Satsuma? tee hee! Amber's friend?

For sure cookie...guess I was speaking the yea yea, nay nay language.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 29, 2009, 11:06:05 PM
goodnite monkey friends...talk to you all tomorrow!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 29, 2009, 11:07:53 PM
goodnite monkey friends...talk to you all tomorrow!

Goodnight as well cookie, have a restful sleep.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 29, 2009, 11:11:55 PM
goodnite monkey friends...talk to you all tomorrow!

Good night, cookie.

I am going to leave as well.

Maybe tomorrow we will have good news about Haleigh ~


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 29, 2009, 11:15:53 PM
Hello Monkeys,    I have a few things to say, first of all, the picture I posted on here last night was just a picture, I didnt say it was from anywhere I have been, I just found it and posted it as everybody does everyday,whats the big deal!!!  It is just a picture that was on someones my space and I saw it thought it was cute and just posted it on HALEIGH's thread!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 29, 2009, 11:17:25 PM
Good Night Cookie.... ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 29, 2009, 11:18:59 PM
Hello Monkeys,    I have a few things to say, first of all, the picture I posted on here last night was just a picture, I didnt say it was from anywhere I have been, I just found it and posted it as everybody does everyday,whats the big deal!!!  It is just a picture that was on someones my space and I saw it thought it was cute and just posted it on HALEIGH's thread!!!

hi HH.. Did you find out any thing new or any pics? ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 29, 2009, 11:22:54 PM
Hello Monkeys,    I have a few things to say, first of all, the picture I posted on here last night was just a picture, I didnt say it was from anywhere I have been, I just found it and posted it as everybody does everyday,whats the big deal!!!  It is just a picture that was on someones my space and I saw it thought it was cute and just posted it on HALEIGH's thread!!!

hi HH.. Did you find out any thing new or any pics? ::MonkeyTongue::
I found out a few things   but nothing new about Haleigh, alot of stuff other people told me. alot of stuff the locals said and I had several places to check out that some people had sent me in e-mails, but as far as anything new about Haleigh ,   Dont I wish!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 29, 2009, 11:25:05 PM
Hello Monkeys,    I have a few things to say, first of all, the picture I posted on here last night was just a picture, I didnt say it was from anywhere I have been, I just found it and posted it as everybody does everyday,whats the big deal!!!  It is just a picture that was on someones my space and I saw it thought it was cute and just posted it on HALEIGH's thread!!!

hi HH.. Did you find out any thing new or any pics? ::MonkeyTongue::
I found out a few things   but nothing new about Haleigh, alot of stuff other people told me. alot of stuff the locals said and I had several places to check out that some people had sent me in e-mails, but as far as anything new about Haleigh ,   Dont I wish!

I hope something breaks soon and Haleigh is found.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 29, 2009, 11:29:05 PM
Hello Monkeys,    I have a few things to say, first of all, the picture I posted on here last night was just a picture, I didnt say it was from anywhere I have been, I just found it and posted it as everybody does everyday,whats the big deal!!!  It is just a picture that was on someones my space and I saw it thought it was cute and just posted it on HALEIGH's thread!!!

hi HH.. Did you find out any thing new or any pics? ::MonkeyTongue::
I found out a few things   but nothing new about Haleigh, alot of stuff other people told me. alot of stuff the locals said and I had several places to check out that some people had sent me in e-mails, but as far as anything new about Haleigh ,   Dont I wish!

I hope something breaks soon and Haleigh is found.... ::MonkeyTongue::
Me too Jersey me too, its sad and I know someone knows something about her whereabouts, most likely its the last ones to see her IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 29, 2009, 11:30:08 PM
Good Night sweet monkey's.

Prayers for Haleigh...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 29, 2009, 11:31:25 PM
Hello Monkeys,    I have a few things to say, first of all, the picture I posted on here last night was just a picture, I didnt say it was from anywhere I have been, I just found it and posted it as everybody does everyday,whats the big deal!!!  It is just a picture that was on someones my space and I saw it thought it was cute and just posted it on HALEIGH's thread!!!

hi HH.. Did you find out any thing new or any pics? ::MonkeyTongue::
I found out a few things   but nothing new about Haleigh, alot of stuff other people told me. alot of stuff the locals said and I had several places to check out that some people had sent me in e-mails, but as far as anything new about Haleigh ,   Dont I wish!

I hope something breaks soon and Haleigh is found.... ::MonkeyTongue::
Me too Jersey me too, its sad and I know someone knows something about her whereabouts, most likely its the last ones to see her IMO

I agree....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 30, 2009, 12:43:59 AM
Klaas, you have mail!...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 30, 2009, 12:47:51 AM
Thanks, for all the links and posts from Art's site, and Crystal's message on myspace. HH thanks for that billboard pic of Haleigh, hope you are safe in Satsuma.  ::MonkeyAngel::
Your welcome Rose, yes Im home and the picture was one that I got off from someones my-space page and just thought it was cute and posted it here because this is Haleighs thread........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 30, 2009, 12:51:41 AM
I just find it so strange that you never hear anything of Gr Sykes or Gr Neves in the news anymore. 

The actions of Ron and Misty, going along with their everyday cares and it appears to me that all four of them, either know where she is, or something is fishy about them.  You just don't kinda give up, and forget that she is out there.  You try and make attempts to be heard.  All four of these people are just sitting down behind the fence, keeping their mouths shut.  WHY?????


This is all so strange, it's like the little one has just been forgotten  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Amen......I will never understand it!
Do you know if HH got to Satsuma safely?

no rose, I read a post on another site this morning where HH said that she was, at that time, at a flea bag hotel in Satsuma.
Yes, I do belong to several sites, just like alot of others here, and I was talking to someone on another site that I talk to sometimes and just to let them know I had arrived safely, so yea .........at that time I had arrived safely.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 30, 2009, 01:02:46 AM
I received this from our Lady "Eyes of Satsuma", yesterday, after she read our post.

Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 5:52:04 PM
Subject: No "flea bag" hotel in Satsuma

mlee,  If HH is in Satsuma and staying, I don't know where it would be.   There is no hotel/motel in that  area or within 10 miles.  A couple of decent motels in Palatka on 17/100/20 (main road called Reid St.  and a bed&breakfast. South of Satsuma is Crescent City and  there is a Lakeside Motel, but I don't think it's currently open.  Just off 17 on Main St. is a bed and breakfast.  Places to stay are hard to come by. 
 
Satsuma has Mema's Restraunt (really a tiny, un-modern building) but with great food, a Dollar Store, a Kangaroo service station, a towing company, a fruit stand, a couple of trailer parks (small and not modern) and the Haleigh Bug Center.  I'll be going by there and see what's happening.  Then I'll let you know.  I sure don't think HH will be in any trouble there.  The weather is still messy with a lot of rain and the worse she should be is wet.
 
SMs research on family within driving distance is a good thought.  It's strange nothing has leaked out.  Thanks for all your work.


According to postings on another site, HH is back home, returned home last night.

Apparently, one or more of the posters at sm.. thought she was staying overnight.. Don't know..  I was playing over at EffMyPic.com,  amazing site.
it is and amazing site, thats undoubly where the person that made the picture that I got off from Crystals my space page got it from,   I thought it was cute and posted it so everybody could see it.......Glad you posted the name of the site, I didnt know about it but now that I do i will know where to go if I want to make some really neat pictures!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: klaasend on May 30, 2009, 01:08:01 AM
You know, I've been pretty busy the last few days with family stuff so I haven't really been following this case.

Seems as though there is some childish bickering going on, likely due to the frustration of no news and no HALEIGH.  Does anyone really think that going after or picking on another poster will help find Haleigh?  Do you think that a poster here at SM is responsible for Haleigh being missing?

By the way, I thought the picture HH found of Haleigh on the billboard was cool.

http://www.effmypic.com/

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/HaleighPic.jpg)

Sad part is, the beautiful little girl above was likely no longer alive by the time we first heard her name.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 30, 2009, 01:23:00 AM
Seems to me that LE and DCF would bar Ron from leaving the country in light of the fact that Haleigh is missing and that no one has been cleared. Plain and simple IMO.

Patricia,

Common sense rules, DCF, doubtfully, would allow the child to be taken out of the country.  I read that DCF still investigating
the child, it is very unlikely they would support a vacation out of the country by any means. Thank-you for a reality check.
I seriously doubt that DCF ,would allow this pair, to take the child out of the state, let alone out of the country. Good thinking Patricia.

Ditto~not to mention how on earth would he afford it?????

Just talked with HH............lot's of neighbors talking about R/M around there, no shock there I guess in a town that small. Where I live it's so small if you sneeze someone 3 blocks away brings you a tissue.

Yeah, and if HH was in Ron's neck of the woods, there would probably be lots of talk about Crystal and her family...that is how it is...depends on whose crowd you would be visiting with I would guess..
Yes there was talk about everybody, but mostly about Ron as he was the one living there and not Crystal, also talk about Misty, the last person to see Haleigh alive IMO...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 30, 2009, 01:42:46 AM
You know, I've been pretty busy the last few days with family stuff so I haven't really been following this case.

Seems as though there is some childish bickering going on, likely due to the frustration of no news and no HALEIGH.  Does anyone really think that going after or picking on another poster will help find Haleigh?  Do you think that a poster here at SM is responsible for Haleigh being missing?

By the way, I thought the picture HH found of Haleigh on the billboard was cool.

http://www.effmypic.com/

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/HaleighPic.jpg)

Sad part is, the beautiful little girl above was likely no longer alive by the time we first heard her name.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thank You Klaas, I liked that picture also, and I agree, its so sad, but true, she is most likely gone and the ones that know wont say anything!   Praying for Haleigh!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 30, 2009, 09:42:55 AM
Thank-you for your update HH. I agree, I do not think Haleigh is no longer with us.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 30, 2009, 11:49:00 AM
Good Morning  Monkey's......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 30, 2009, 12:07:21 PM
New article:

http://www.bloggernews.net/121055

And the lack of news, and the lack of info from the families will continue..  Hopefully,  Art will be staying in the case, maybe Cobra will, but he cannot investigate anything.  I have noticed, nothing has hit HLN.. Not a word from Satsuma.  I imagine, Kim is staying out of the picture, I think Jeremiah will be also.. Crystal has gone home. And, the Cummings are keeping to themselves. None of them have anything they wish to put out to the Public, it would just bring up the Laundry airing of last week.  Can we find Haleigh.  NO.. We can't.   When they feel the time is right, she will be brought back home.  What good does it do any of us, to learn that Ron and Misty might be having marital spats, that is not news..  No body has called LE, so I guess all is well in the Sykes - Cummings World.   I guess we will just set back and watch the moving vans, as they leave town..  Life for these Families will never be the same in either community.


FYI

NutZ R Us wrote:
Hey you all...my security cought a trojan downloader from the Art Harris site...all I did was click the link here and read that Ava thingie.. Just thought you should know.

HaleysNana wrote:
I've heard about that happening to several people . There were people on Art's talking about it. Maybe somebody's got it in for Art lol...

http://www.topix.com/city/satsuma-fl/2009/02/missing-5-year-old-florida-girl-likely-was-abducted-police-say/p1767

Hey in response to this you should beware of what type of sceurity system is telling you that you have the virus....
same thing happened to me when i went to check out ava's post except the system that was alerting me to the supposed virus was not a security system that i had on my computer...
in a nut shell if i had downloaded this new software that was alerting me to the virus i would have been downloading the virus... hope that makes sense...
a lot of viruses disguise themselves as virus protection


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 30, 2009, 12:08:40 PM
Good Morning  Monkey's......

Good Morning Jersey ~  The pic says it all.  Thanks,


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 30, 2009, 12:09:28 PM
HH...was Crystal and Marie still in town? we have heard reports that they have gone back home...

good morning all!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 30, 2009, 12:12:43 PM
snipped from Penny post....

Hey in response to this you should beware of what type of sceurity system is telling you that you have the virus....
same thing happened to me when i went to check out ava's post except the system that was alerting me to the supposed virus was not a security system that i had on my computer...
in a nut shell if i had downloaded this new software that was alerting me to the virus i would have been downloading the virus... hope that makes sense...
a lot of viruses disguise themselves as virus protection
 
 I don't recall where I read it, but had heard that there was some problem attempting to access Art's site.  Not sure if it was a virus or a hacker, but read that it had been taken care of.  I generally don't frequent his site.

I uderstand what you mean Penny, about when the pop ups come up and that is actually a 'warning' not to bite, as it will put the virus on your computer.  I have McAfee, and it will catch the 'problem' if I venture to a site that is a problem.
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 30, 2009, 12:12:50 PM
Good Morning  Monkey's......
good morning to you too!!
are we the only ones here?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 30, 2009, 12:15:18 PM
Good Morning  Monkey's......
good morning to you too!!
are we the only ones here?


I am here...good morning..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: MuffyBee on May 30, 2009, 12:17:31 PM
Good Morning  Monkey's......
good morning to you too!!
are we the only ones here?


I am here...good morning..

 :smt006  I've been here all morning, buzzing in and out of threads.  Hope you are having a great weekend.  I keep hoping for some information about little Haleigh. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 30, 2009, 12:22:54 PM
Good Morning  Monkey's......
good morning to you too!!
are we the only ones here?


I am here...good morning..

 :smt006  I've been here all morning, buzzing in and out of threads.  Hope you are having a great weekend.  I keep hoping for some information about little Haleigh. 

I keep hoping for some news as well...every day I wake up hoping that today will be the day..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: little lulu on May 30, 2009, 12:23:34 PM
Good Afternoon Monkeys! 

Maybe today will be the day Haleigh is found.
God Bless


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 30, 2009, 12:27:16 PM
Good Morning  Monkey's......

Good Morning Jersey ~  The pic says it all.  Thanks,

Good Morning Grama.. Yea I thought that animated gif was cute...
To agree to disagree all working together to find answers.. ::MonkeyTongue::

God Bless Haleigh....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 30, 2009, 12:30:18 PM
Good Morning  Monkey's......

Good Morning Jersey ~  The pic says it all.  Thanks,

Good Morning Grama.. Yea I thought that animated gif was cute...
To agree to disagree all working together to find answers.. ::MonkeyTongue::

God Bless Haleigh....

yep..Amen to that... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 30, 2009, 12:41:23 PM
Good Morning Monkeys and Guests!

On Sunday May/31 at 3pm Central we will be focusing in once more on the Haleigh Cummings case. This story has been mostly been dropped by the the MSM but a few of us are keeping the pressure on. It is often hard to know when to launch a story, our little group is pretty open with sharing information.

http://www.bloggernews.net/121063


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Dolce on May 30, 2009, 12:49:11 PM
Hi Monkey Friends!  We are finishing up the posters for Adji tonight, so if there is anything you would like me to put on it for you please do not forget to leave your messages and wishes in his thread here.  Thanks to everyone’s sweet words we are up to 3 posters, I have a few blanks left, so feel free to chime in!!  Thanks again!!  I will post pictures once this is all completed.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4380.new#new


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 30, 2009, 12:52:43 PM
Just wish there was SOMETHING WE COULD DO.....

We have LOOKED, RESEARCHED MANY TOPICS, PEOPLE AND THEORIES. 

I don't know...but thought if we can get a listing of NEWSPAPERS in OTHER STATES...

KY, TN, GA, and others, type up MISSING PERSON PAGE.... and forward it to as many newspapers that we could find.  Asking folks in that area, if there is someone that happens to have a little 5 yr old that SUDDENLY appeared in their care.  Maybe a neighbor or a friend or a relative would read this and realize that YES..... so and so...have a relative with them, or that they just adopted someone. 

There has to be SOMEONE.....that may read and lead us to Haleigh. 

I remember Shawn from MO ( sorry can't remember last name) that the perp told everyone that he was a relative...so therefore everyone accepted his lies..noone came forward to report Shawn being at that pervs home.  In fact, even Shawn NEVER TOLD anyone, not even his school councellors....that he was being held.

We could include the initial MISSING PERSON INFORMATION, PLEASE HELP US!!!!   



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 30, 2009, 01:32:07 PM
Brandi ~

  Do you possibly have a pic of HALEIGH...with her hair drawn back, and maybe a hat on, or a baseball cap???  If not, are you able to do a pic with a baseball cap and hair drawn???  I do not know about legalities in this respect, but maybe we can get something together instead of sitting idling along without anything to go on.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 30, 2009, 01:58:23 PM
Good Morning Monkeys and Guests!

On Sunday May/31 at 3pm Central we will be focusing in once more on the Haleigh Cummings case. This story has been mostly been dropped by the the MSM but a few of us are keeping the pressure on. It is often hard to know when to launch a story, our little group is pretty open with sharing information.

http://www.bloggernews.net/121063
Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on May 30, 2009, 02:02:24 PM
Grama you can go to ivillage and upload a photo and change the hair length, style, color, and add glasses and hats
here is the link

http://makeover.ivillage.com/makeover/index.jsp

I think if someone has her they have probably cut and colored her precious little blonde curls.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 30, 2009, 02:45:30 PM
Grama you can go to ivillage and upload a photo and change the hair length, style, color, and add glasses and hats
here is the link

http://makeover.ivillage.com/makeover/index.jsp

I think if someone has her they have probably cut and colored her precious little blonde curls.

I wonder if there would be any law against this.  I don't want to get into any legalities over this.  Maybe someone else can give their opinion.  Anyone know????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: little lulu on May 30, 2009, 02:47:10 PM
I just did this quickly in photoshop....hair color would really make a big change. And, if there is no image...maybe someone could tell me how to do this...
(http://[url=http://img35.imageshack.us/my.php?image=haleighdark.jpg][img=http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1382/haleighdark.th.jpg][/url])


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: little lulu on May 30, 2009, 02:48:05 PM
(http://[URL=http://img35.imageshack.us/my.php?image=haleighdark.jpg][IMG]http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1382/haleighdark.th.jpg)[/URL]
[/img]

Could someone tell me how to post an image here?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: little lulu on May 30, 2009, 02:59:16 PM
(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1382/haleighdark.th.jpg) (http://img35.imageshack.us/my.php?image=haleighdark.jpg)

Ok...sorry for the earlier posts...this was a hurried job but does show what a difference the hair color makes.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 30, 2009, 03:03:23 PM
Good Morning  Monkey's......
good morning to you too!!
are we the only ones here?


I am here...good morning..

 :smt006  I've been here all morning, buzzing in and out of threads.  Hope you are having a great weekend.  I keep hoping for some information about little Haleigh. 

I keep hoping for some news as well...every day I wake up hoping that today will be the day..
I'm right there with ya Cookie.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 30, 2009, 03:09:36 PM
Just wish there was SOMETHING WE COULD DO.....

We have LOOKED, RESEARCHED MANY TOPICS, PEOPLE AND THEORIES. 

I don't know...but thought if we can get a listing of NEWSPAPERS in OTHER STATES...

KY, TN, GA, and others, type up MISSING PERSON PAGE.... and forward it to as many newspapers that we could find.  Asking folks in that area, if there is someone that happens to have a little 5 yr old that SUDDENLY appeared in their care.  Maybe a neighbor or a friend or a relative would read this and realize that YES..... so and so...have a relative with them, or that they just adopted someone. 

There has to be SOMEONE.....that may read and lead us to Haleigh. 

I remember Shawn from MO ( sorry can't remember last name) that the perp told everyone that he was a relative...so therefore everyone accepted his lies..noone came forward to report Shawn being at that pervs home.  In fact, even Shawn NEVER TOLD anyone, not even his school councellors....that he was being held.

We could include the initial MISSING PERSON INFORMATION, PLEASE HELP US!!!!   


I think you have a great idea Grams. The thing is that it costs a lot of money for newspapers to print up missing persons adds and unless it is current news they tend to ignore. How about contacting newspapers and asking them if they would consider running a ad even if it were somewhat small space as a tax deduction (if that can be done) or how about contacting the missing persons foundations and asking them to donate to the cause? There used to be missing persons on milk cartons I'm not sure if that is still done or not my family buys the plastic jugs of milk and no ads on the jugs so not sure on that. How about cereal boxes then?
Good idea Grams and we could be doing things to get this rolling. It is going to take volunteer effort to make phone calls and contacting others who could be helping out on a project like this.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 30, 2009, 03:11:22 PM
(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1382/haleighdark.th.jpg) (http://img35.imageshack.us/my.php?image=haleighdark.jpg)

Ok...sorry for the earlier posts...this was a hurried job but does show what a difference the hair color makes.


Wow thanks lulu...it sure does make a difference.  I think when folks are looking, they have a tendency to check out the hair for the curls first. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 30, 2009, 03:30:12 PM
Just wish there was SOMETHING WE COULD DO.....

We have LOOKED, RESEARCHED MANY TOPICS, PEOPLE AND THEORIES. 

I don't know...but thought if we can get a listing of NEWSPAPERS in OTHER STATES...

KY, TN, GA, and others, type up MISSING PERSON PAGE.... and forward it to as many newspapers that we could find.  Asking folks in that area, if there is someone that happens to have a little 5 yr old that SUDDENLY appeared in their care.  Maybe a neighbor or a friend or a relative would read this and realize that YES..... so and so...have a relative with them, or that they just adopted someone. 

There has to be SOMEONE.....that may read and lead us to Haleigh. 

I remember Shawn from MO ( sorry can't remember last name) that the perp told everyone that he was a relative...so therefore everyone accepted his lies..noone came forward to report Shawn being at that pervs home.  In fact, even Shawn NEVER TOLD anyone, not even his school councellors....that he was being held.

We could include the initial MISSING PERSON INFORMATION, PLEASE HELP US!!!!   


I think you have a great idea Grams. The thing is that it costs a lot of money for newspapers to print up missing persons adds and unless it is current news they tend to ignore. How about contacting newspapers and asking them if they would consider running a ad even if it were somewhat small space as a tax deduction (if that can be done) or how about contacting the missing persons foundations and asking them to donate to the cause? There used to be missing persons on milk cartons I'm not sure if that is still done or not my family buys the plastic jugs of milk and no ads on the jugs so not sure on that. How about cereal boxes then?
Good idea Grams and we could be doing things to get this rolling. It is going to take volunteer effort to make phone calls and contacting others who could be helping out on a project like this.
Sunday newspapers seem to sell the most from what I understand. If all newspapers could dedicate a back page on their Sunday edition (some do from what my Mother has told me) then it would be a start. The smaller hometown newspapers are the ones that we could be contacting also if the larger ones are already doing it. (I'm not 100% sure that very many larger ones are?)
Some newspapers are weekly prints also I wouldn't rule them out.
Also online newspaper editions and I have seen a few of them do have something about Haleigh right now. How hard would it be to include an online missing persons page?
I don't know but it is a thought.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 30, 2009, 03:38:46 PM
snipped from Patricia...

Sunday newspapers seem to sell the most from what I understand. If all newspapers could dedicate a back page on their Sunday edition (some do from what my Mother has told me) then it would be a start. The smaller hometown newspapers are the ones that we could be contacting also if the larger ones are already doing it. (I'm not 100% sure that very many larger ones are?)
Some newspapers are weekly prints also I wouldn't rule them out.
Also online newspaper editions and I have seen a few of them do have something about Haleigh right now. How hard would it be to include an online missing persons page?
I don't know but it is a thought.

_______________________________________________________________________

Newspapers are just that....they are in the business to GIVE THE SPECIAL NEWS REPORTS...what better NEWS than a MISSING CHILD..  I would personally prefer to read about a missing child than some of the other news articles that seem to get posted. 

If they don't want to do a feature on this, does't say much for their newspaper.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 30, 2009, 03:46:38 PM
snipped from Patricia...

Sunday newspapers seem to sell the most from what I understand. If all newspapers could dedicate a back page on their Sunday edition (some do from what my Mother has told me) then it would be a start. The smaller hometown newspapers are the ones that we could be contacting also if the larger ones are already doing it. (I'm not 100% sure that very many larger ones are?)
Some newspapers are weekly prints also I wouldn't rule them out.
Also online newspaper editions and I have seen a few of them do have something about Haleigh right now. How hard would it be to include an online missing persons page?
I don't know but it is a thought.

_______________________________________________________________________

Newspapers are just that....they are in the business to GIVE THE SPECIAL NEWS REPORTS...what better NEWS than a MISSING CHILD..  I would personally prefer to read about a missing child than some of the other news articles that seem to get posted. 

If they don't want to do a feature on this, does't say much for their newspaper.

Exactly. Right now I am wondering what criteria the newspapers would have to meet in order to get a tax right off for running missing persons ads?
Can they run the ads themselves and it be considered a tax right off or would a request from LE or a missing persons foundation be required?
Hmmm....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 30, 2009, 03:53:05 PM
 
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing69.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 30, 2009, 03:53:54 PM
Hello monkeys.

No news about Haleigh today, I see.

How terribly sad.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 30, 2009, 03:55:48 PM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing69.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh

That is precious Brandi. Thank you for your beautiful posters.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: jaggard19 on May 30, 2009, 04:39:36 PM
snipped from Patricia...

Sunday newspapers seem to sell the most from what I understand. If all newspapers could dedicate a back page on their Sunday edition (some do from what my Mother has told me) then it would be a start. The smaller hometown newspapers are the ones that we could be contacting also if the larger ones are already doing it. (I'm not 100% sure that very many larger ones are?)
Some newspapers are weekly prints also I wouldn't rule them out.
Also online newspaper editions and I have seen a few of them do have something about Haleigh right now. How hard would it be to include an online missing persons page?
I don't know but it is a thought.

_______________________________________________________________________

Newspapers are just that....they are in the business to GIVE THE SPECIAL NEWS REPORTS...what better NEWS than a MISSING CHILD..  I would personally prefer to read about a missing child than some of the other news articles that seem to get posted. 

If they don't want to do a feature on this, does't say much for their newspaper.


GrammaMonkey and Patricia Mocha Latte:  Now, you guys are talking about the very thing that we have set up a new thread about.  Please join us in helping get this started!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5255.new#new


We need a lot of input.  We are talking about setting up a web site just for these things.  I also suggested the newspapers and news web sites, and hope you will read this thread (only one page at present) and join in.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 30, 2009, 05:21:28 PM
Jag...glad that you brought that thread over here...just in case some of our monkey friends don't venture over to other threads....We should put it on every thread that is active...thanks..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 30, 2009, 06:59:28 PM
snipped from Patricia...

Sunday newspapers seem to sell the most from what I understand. If all newspapers could dedicate a back page on their Sunday edition (some do from what my Mother has told me) then it would be a start. The smaller hometown newspapers are the ones that we could be contacting also if the larger ones are already doing it. (I'm not 100% sure that very many larger ones are?)
Some newspapers are weekly prints also I wouldn't rule them out.
Also online newspaper editions and I have seen a few of them do have something about Haleigh right now. How hard would it be to include an online missing persons page?
I don't know but it is a thought.

_______________________________________________________________________

Newspapers are just that....they are in the business to GIVE THE SPECIAL NEWS REPORTS...what better NEWS than a MISSING CHILD..  I would personally prefer to read about a missing child than some of the other news articles that seem to get posted. 

If they don't want to do a feature on this, does't say much for their newspaper.


GrammaMonkey and Patricia Mocha Latte:  Now, you guys are talking about the very thing that we have set up a new thread about.  Please join us in helping get this started!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5255.new#new


We need a lot of input.  We are talking about setting up a web site just for these things.  I also suggested the newspapers and news web sites, and hope you will read this thread (only one page at present) and join in.


TY Jaggard. I'm in.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 30, 2009, 07:01:47 PM
good Patricia...we need all the help that we can get!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 30, 2009, 07:30:23 PM
It is a sad thing to be waiting around to hear what, if any, new news has come about in this case or any case for that matter.
We aren't hearing anything but I trust and believe that LE and others are out there doing a much better job than any of us can imagine (since they are smart in not letting any of the details out in the case) and I want to say thank you to any and all of those people for all of their tireless efforts on trying to find little Haleigh.
No matter what ~Justice~ will prevail and I for one pray that it will come swiftly.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 30, 2009, 07:40:54 PM
It is a sad thing to be waiting around to hear what, if any, new news has come about in this case or any case for that matter.
We aren't hearing anything but I trust and believe that LE and others are out there doing a much better job than any of us can imagine (since they are smart in not letting any of the details out in the case) and I want to say thank you to any and all of those people for all of their tireless efforts on trying to find little Haleigh.
No matter what ~Justice~ will prevail and I for one pray that it will come swiftly.



Sad indeed.

It just seems to me that with today's technology at LE's disposal that a 5-year-old child could not just go "missing" for almost 4 months with no trace whatsoever.

I have been making the artwork using Haleigh's pictures for this forum for a long time now. It used to be therapeutic for me. I used to think about where she was, when she would be home when I made them.

Now I make them and get an empty feeling as I work on them.

This whole case leaves me feeling empty and sad now. Not hopeful any longer.

Maybe tomorrow that will change. I hope so.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 30, 2009, 08:01:05 PM
Thank you for your posters Brandi. Your contribution is very well received by me and others. It is good that you keep little Haleigh's face seen each and every day.
I have seen people's hope diminish over time.
As I said I do trust and believe that justice will prevail and I mean that sincerely no matter what the outcome. My Mother once told me, pray for the best but expect the worst because in the end, no matter what your expectations are or were, the only surprise you will be left to contend with would be much better that what you expected.
I hope you don't mind me passing along a little piece of my Mother's advice. If I would have only listened to her sooner in life I would have experienced much less grief and that is a fact.
((((((( HUGS))))))) to ya Brandi.
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on May 30, 2009, 08:36:17 PM
I think this is a great idea too.....a lot of times I think that they try to make girls look like boys and vice versa....where is the thread at ?  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 30, 2009, 09:23:43 PM
I keep thinking and thinking about the blanket story Misty told and others are talking about this also, and something just aint right about it, something happened with those blankets, its just weird to me!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 30, 2009, 09:35:00 PM
I keep thinking and thinking about the blanket story Misty told and others are talking about this also, and something just aint right about it, something happened with those blankets, its just weird to me!

I agree too. Ever since the 911 call , the 911  radio transmission, the police report ,the interviews , the marriage and all the inconsistancies , where the children slept, blankets not adding up.. ::MonkeyTongue::

When you cover up something you did and its incriminating you make up a cover for it not realizing that certain details your covering up draws attention ..Unless there was a reason to for your coverup...

Does that make sense in what I am trying to say.. I am not good in explaining myself...



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 30, 2009, 09:38:06 PM
I keep thinking and thinking about the blanket story Misty told and others are talking about this also, and something just aint right about it, something happened with those blankets, its just weird to me!

I agree too. Ever since the 911 call , the 911  radio transmission, the police report ,the interviews , the marriage and all the inconsistancies , where the children slept, blankets not adding up.. ::MonkeyTongue::

When you cover up something you did and its incriminating you make up a cover for it not realizing that certain details your covering up draws attention ..Unless there was a reason to for your coverup...

Does that make sense in what I am trying to say.. I am not good in explaining myself...



Yes, you are making sense to me. Like you don't bring in odd facts like that when recounting the night unless you think it has something to do with it, and you are trying to answer questions not even asked.

Does that make sense?  LOL



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 30, 2009, 09:40:03 PM
I keep thinking and thinking about the blanket story Misty told and others are talking about this also, and something just aint right about it, something happened with those blankets, its just weird to me!

I agree too. Ever since the 911 call , the 911  radio transmission, the police report ,the interviews , the marriage and all the inconsistancies , where the children slept, blankets not adding up.. ::MonkeyTongue::

When you cover up something you did and its incriminating you make up a cover for it not realizing that certain details your covering up draws attention ..Unless there was a reason to for your coverup...

Does that make sense in what I am trying to say.. I am not good in explaining myself...



Yes, you are making sense to me. Like you don't bring in odd facts like that when recounting the night unless you think it has something to do with it, and you are trying to answer questions not even asked.

Does that make sense?  LOL



Thats it Brandi.... You explained it well where I was coming from.. Thank You.. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 30, 2009, 09:54:36 PM
I keep thinking and thinking about the blanket story Misty told and others are talking about this also, and something just aint right about it, something happened with those blankets, its just weird to me!

I agree too. Ever since the 911 call , the 911  radio transmission, the police report ,the interviews , the marriage and all the inconsistancies , where the children slept, blankets not adding up.. ::MonkeyTongue::

When you cover up something you did and its incriminating you make up a cover for it not realizing that certain details your covering up draws attention ..Unless there was a reason to for your coverup...

Does that make sense in what I am trying to say.. I am not good in explaining myself...



Yes, you are making sense to me. Like you don't bring in odd facts like that when recounting the night unless you think it has something to do with it, and you are trying to answer questions not even asked.

Does that make sense?  LOL


Thats exactly it,   like if you think someone might already be thinking about the blanket thing or might have heard it already from someone else, or your scared they might find out about it later, you throw it in there to  cover yourself, kinda just in case!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 30, 2009, 10:06:49 PM
HH...don't know if you say my earlier post to you...did you see Crystal and Marie or are they back home as reported? thanks..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 30, 2009, 10:09:07 PM
Just thinking outloud....

Now Fibsty had the van to pick up Haleigh at the bus stop how did the van get back to Jacksonville where Chelsea lives?? Did Fibsty drive the van with the kids  to Chelsea's where Joe was staying and Joe brough Fibsty back to the MH with the kids... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 30, 2009, 10:13:29 PM
HH...don't know if you say my earlier post to you...did you see Crystal and Marie or are they back home as reported? thanks..
They are back home, but Crystal is gonna try to go back to the running of the Haleigh Center as soon as the Doc tells her she can drive and they are still trying to get a staff for the center set up ,so it can stay open day and night!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 30, 2009, 10:14:18 PM
Just thinking outloud....

Now Fibsty had the van to pick up Haleigh at the bus stop how did the van get back to Jacksonville where Chelsea lives?? Did Fibsty drive the van with the kids  to Chelsea's where Joe was staying and Joe brough Fibsty back to the MH with the kids... ::MonkeyTongue::

eh? when? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 30, 2009, 10:14:21 PM
Just thinking outloud....

Now Fibsty had the van to pick up Haleigh at the bus stop how did the van get back to Jacksonville where Chelsea lives?? Did Fibsty drive the van with the kids  to Chelsea's where Joe was staying and Joe brough Fibsty back to the MH with the kids... ::MonkeyTongue::
Thats a good questuin, there are just too many end left untied!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 30, 2009, 10:15:35 PM
HH...don't know if you say my earlier post to you...did you see Crystal and Marie or are they back home as reported? thanks..
They are back home, but Crystal is gonna try to go back to the running of the Haleigh Center as soon as the Doc tells her she can drive and they are still trying to get a staff for the center set up ,so it can stay open day and night!

thanks...so is it closed now? it looked vacant from the latest pictures that we saw..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on May 30, 2009, 10:29:24 PM
Just thinking outloud....

Now Fibsty had the van to pick up Haleigh at the bus stop how did the van get back to Jacksonville where Chelsea lives?? Did Fibsty drive the van with the kids  to Chelsea's where Joe was staying and Joe brough Fibsty back to the MH with the kids... ::MonkeyTongue::

eh? when? 


 

“We all started thinking about what could have happened that night…I realized the van was in a different spot.”

 

Chelsea Croslin said the night Haleigh disappeared, a family member was staying with them. She says around 4 a.m., when Misty called them to tell them Haleigh was missing, they went outside to the van to drive to Haleigh’s home. Chelsea said she immediately noticed the van was not in the same spot she left it.

 

“I know I don’t park like that, and I was the last to drive the van.”

 

After a few hours, another sign the van was tampered with appeared.

 

“The day Haleigh went missing, everyone was looking for her…she (Misty) called me later that night and said 'Chelsea, please tell me you’re the one who put the scratch in my van.' I started crying and told her there’s no way I put the scratch in her van," said Chelsea.

 

A scratch leading from just behind the driver’s side door handle to the back tire is very visible. Chelsea said that scratch was not there the last time she drove it.

 

“The scratch---it runs all the way down the van. That’s something someone would know if you’re riding against something and steadily scratching it.”

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:VCE3MYgS1fcJ:www.actionnewsjax.com/mostpopular/story/New-Details-About-Evidence-In-The-Haleigh/1k5Lp9GD2E2M74ZPyUJb7g.cspx+CHELSEA+CROSLIN&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 30, 2009, 10:44:29 PM
So, HH ... I really haven't heard anything about your recent visit to Satsuma this past week.

Did you go on the search you said you wanted to check out?

Who did you talk to while there?

Did you see Crystal and/or Kim this trip?

Spill the beans! What did you learn that you can share with us?

Did you take more pictures?

I am anxious to hear about your trip.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 30, 2009, 11:05:17 PM
So, HH ... I really haven't heard anything about your recent visit to Satsuma this past week.

Did you go on the search you said you wanted to check out? Yes, I did, sveral people had sent me things via E-mail that they wanted me to check out and I did, and I found nothing..not anything important anyway!

Who did you talk to while there?I spoke with a few people that were from Rons neighborhood and the one where he lived at at the time and the one where he live before he moved to green lane.

Did you see Crystal and/or Kim this trip?No I didnt, Kim was busy and Crystal was in Baker county.

Spill the beans! What did you learn that you can share with us?I learned alot from the people I spoke with, but I dont know if I could or should share that here, as it is only hearsay and I dont want to get shot at for passing on hearsay!

Did you take more pictures?I took a few.

I am anxious to hear about your trip.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 30, 2009, 11:34:59 PM
Thanks, HH.

Too bad this case is at a standstill.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 31, 2009, 12:47:41 AM
Thanks, HH.

Too bad this case is at a standstill.
Yes it is Brandi,   if you have it would you post another picture of Haleigh with the blue dress on, I love that picture, she was so cute being a Flower girl in that wedding....Thanks


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 31, 2009, 07:55:29 AM
Good Morning Monkeys ~

On Sunday May/31 at 3pm Central we will be focusing in once more on the Haleigh Cummings case. This story has been mostly been dropped by the the MSM but a few of us are keeping the pressure on. It is often hard to know when to launch a story, our little group is pretty open with sharing information

http://www.bloggernews.net/121063   www.blogtalkradio.com

Now I have read a couple of sites...www.artharris.com post # 297  ...states that there was a TIP and that dogs were required for a search for Haleigh.

It is something...but...why would the TIP not go directly to LE.  So, we shall see what becomes of this today...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mioyshi on May 31, 2009, 07:58:43 AM
good morning grama, I see no new news today... I guess we all wish the same thing each day. Bring the children home.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 31, 2009, 08:56:43 AM
Here is another reference to the search..and WHY LE was not contacted...

I know that your initial reaction is ‘go tell the cops’, well isn’t that exactly what happened with Roy Kronk in the Caylee Anthony case? The folks in Putnam County want to do things their own way, and I guess I can not fault them for that, I likely would react the same way.  They are not open to outside help.

http://www.bloggernews.net/121048


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 31, 2009, 09:06:42 AM
morning Monkeys...
sigh...another day with no over night news  on Haleigh I see...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 31, 2009, 10:05:42 AM
Good Morning Monkeys ~

On Sunday May/31 at 3pm Central we will be focusing in once more on the Haleigh Cummings case. This story has been mostly been dropped by the the MSM but a few of us are keeping the pressure on. It is often hard to know when to launch a story, our little group is pretty open with sharing information

http://www.bloggernews.net/121063   www.blogtalkradio.com

Now I have read a couple of sites...www.artharris.com post # 297  ...states that there was a TIP and that dogs were required for a search for Haleigh.

It is something...but...why would the TIP not go directly to LE.  So, we shall see what becomes of this today...
Good Morning, I read the other day that the lady from WS was going to take her dog to search, but I don't know anything more on this. HH thanks for answering the questions about your trip to Satsuma.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 31, 2009, 10:24:05 AM
Good Morning Monkeys ~

On Sunday May/31 at 3pm Central we will be focusing in once more on the Haleigh Cummings case. This story has been mostly been dropped by the the MSM but a few of us are keeping the pressure on. It is often hard to know when to launch a story, our little group is pretty open with sharing information

http://www.bloggernews.net/121063   www.blogtalkradio.com

Now I have read a couple of sites...www.artharris.com post # 297  ...states that there was a TIP and that dogs were required for a search for Haleigh.

It is something...but...why would the TIP not go directly to LE.  So, we shall see what becomes of this today...
Good Morning, I read the other day that the lady from WS was going to take her dog to search, but I don't know anything more on this. HH thanks for answering the questions about your trip to Satsuma.



I sure hope that this was not some prank tipster looking for some damn fame.  Why wait this long to spit it out????   Same reason the Anthony case.....not able to identify or evidence of harm???  Guess better wait and see what comes of this, before anymore speculation.

HH I know you had great intentions, can't blame yourself as LE and many others have been trying to piece this together and they are in the area 24/7. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 31, 2009, 11:15:14 AM
Good Morning Monkeys ~

On Sunday May/31 at 3pm Central we will be focusing in once more on the Haleigh Cummings case. This story has been mostly been dropped by the the MSM but a few of us are keeping the pressure on. It is often hard to know when to launch a story, our little group is pretty open with sharing information

http://www.bloggernews.net/121063   www.blogtalkradio.com

Now I have read a couple of sites...www.artharris.com post # 297  ...states that there was a TIP and that dogs were required for a search for Haleigh.

It is something...but...why would the TIP not go directly to LE.  So, we shall see what becomes of this today...
Good Morning, I read the other day that the lady from WS was going to take her dog to search, but I don't know anything more on this. HH thanks for answering the questions about your trip to Satsuma.
YW.....and I dont know about this tip thing going on at WS, even if its on the up and up, what are they gonna do, just go out with a dog somebody brings and search. I dont know about this, sounds like they just might bite off more then they can chew.....hmmmmmmm


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 31, 2009, 11:20:13 AM
Good Morning Monkeys ~

On Sunday May/31 at 3pm Central we will be focusing in once more on the Haleigh Cummings case. This story has been mostly been dropped by the the MSM but a few of us are keeping the pressure on. It is often hard to know when to launch a story, our little group is pretty open with sharing information

http://www.bloggernews.net/121063   www.blogtalkradio.com

Now I have read a couple of sites...www.artharris.com post # 297  ...states that there was a TIP and that dogs were required for a search for Haleigh.

It is something...but...why would the TIP not go directly to LE.  So, we shall see what becomes of this today...
Good Morning, I read the other day that the lady from WS was going to take her dog to search, but I don't know anything more on this. HH thanks for answering the questions about your trip to Satsuma.



I sure hope that this was not some prank tipster looking for some damn fame.  Why wait this long to spit it out????   Same reason the Anthony case.....not able to identify or evidence of harm???  Guess better wait and see what comes of this, before anymore speculation.

HH I know you had great intentions, can't blame yourself as LE and many others have been trying to piece this together and they are in the area 24/7. 
I know, just cant stand to think that this beautiful baby is still gone, gone without a trace, makes no sense and I just wish someone would come forward, because someone knows something........and that person Im sure is right there in Satauma,   I hope this aint just another prank also, just so sad if the only way they have to get attention is to say something like this just to get tounges wagging and people watching your blog!!!!!    so sad!.....Im gonna continue to pray mfor Haleigh,


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: darla on May 31, 2009, 11:28:14 AM
Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!

I don't come here much anymore, but stopped in to see if there was any news on Haleigh.

I wanted to clarify something that was posted a few pages back about Georgia.....it is a southern heritage thing to say "tear up hell and half of Georgia". I use that phrase quite often when I keep all 7 grandkids at one time. They can tear up hell and half of Georgia when they all get together. It has to do with Sherman's march thru Georgia. I don't think Marie meant it to say Haleigh was in Ga.
HH , glad you are back home...send me some nanners.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 31, 2009, 11:36:35 AM
Good Morning Monkeys ~

On Sunday May/31 at 3pm Central we will be focusing in once more on the Haleigh Cummings case. This story has been mostly been dropped by the the MSM but a few of us are keeping the pressure on. It is often hard to know when to launch a story, our little group is pretty open with sharing information

http://www.bloggernews.net/121063   www.blogtalkradio.com

Now I have read a couple of sites...www.artharris.com post # 297  ...states that there was a TIP and that dogs were required for a search for Haleigh.

It is something...but...why would the TIP not go directly to LE. 

I understand that the tip came to Simon or his site.  There was mention that a dog or dogs were needed for a search, and someone took it over to WS and tried to contact the lady that had done some searches previously.  I do believe that is who is going today.  Keep your fingers crossed and continue to pray....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 31, 2009, 11:44:54 AM
Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!

I don't come here much anymore, but stopped in to see if there was any news on Haleigh.

I wanted to clarify something that was posted a few pages back about Georgia.....it is a southern heritage thing to say "tear up hell and half of Georgia". I use that phrase quite often when I keep all 7 grandkids at one time. They can tear up hell and half of Georgia when they all get together. It has to do with Sherman's march thru Georgia. I don't think Marie meant it to say Haleigh was in Ga.
HH , glad you are back home...send me some nanners.
I will, keep looking and as soon as I have time later today I have a little to tell you,  Daughter turns 16 tomorrow and there is 16 year old girls everywhere around here....lol  but I will get around to it.......lol.....if I survive........lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: darla on May 31, 2009, 11:56:28 AM
Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!

I don't come here much anymore, but stopped in to see if there was any news on Haleigh.

I wanted to clarify something that was posted a few pages back about Georgia.....it is a southern heritage thing to say "tear up hell and half of Georgia". I use that phrase quite often when I keep all 7 grandkids at one time. They can tear up hell and half of Georgia when they all get together. It has to do with Sherman's march thru Georgia. I don't think Marie meant it to say Haleigh was in Ga.
HH , glad you are back home...send me some nanners.
I will, keep looking and as soon as I have time later today I have a little to tell you,  Daughter turns 16 tomorrow and there is 16 year old girls everywhere around here....lol  but I will get around to it.......lol.....if I survive........lol

I will pray for you HH. Here's hoping they don't tear up hell and half of Georgia!!!!

And Klaas I agree with you...Haleigh has been gone since the night of Feb. 9..Just hope she is found soon. God Bless her.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 31, 2009, 12:01:38 PM
Thanks, HH.

Too bad this case is at a standstill.
Yes it is Brandi,   if you have it would you post another picture of Haleigh with the blue dress on, I love that picture, she was so cute being a Flower girl in that wedding....Thanks

She is wearing a blue dress in this image I used two days ago to make this. I don't know anything about a wedding though. Is this the one you wanted to see?

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing66.png)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 31, 2009, 12:23:17 PM
Thanks, HH.

Too bad this case is at a standstill.
Yes it is Brandi,   if you have it would you post another picture of Haleigh with the blue dress on, I love that picture, she was so cute being a Flower girl in that wedding....Thanks

She is wearing a blue dress in this image I used two days ago to make this. I don't know anything about a wedding though. Is this the one you wanted to see?

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing66.png)
Yes, Thank You Brandi, thats the one, she was a flower girl when she wore that, and its beautiful, look at the way they did her hair, just so precious,    anyway Im off to take these girls to the river and then we will have a party,   God Bless Haleigh....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 31, 2009, 02:27:26 PM
anybody seen mlee today or lately?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Spydee on May 31, 2009, 02:45:00 PM
Hello to all monkey!  I am new to this site but I have been keeping up with the Haleigh case for the past couple of months.  I look forward to sharing information in hopes that we can help find the missing link in this case. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 31, 2009, 02:49:53 PM
Hello to all monkey!  I am new to this site but I have been keeping up with the Haleigh case for the past couple of months.  I look forward to sharing information in hopes that we can help find the missing link in this case. 

Hello Spydee and ...

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Welcome/Animation31.gif)

Nice to have you join us and we're looking forward to your input on this case!

~Brandi


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 31, 2009, 02:50:44 PM
anybody seen mlee today or lately?

hey cookie, no I have not seen her post for a day or so.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Spydee on May 31, 2009, 02:57:54 PM
Hello to all monkey!  I am new to this site but I have been keeping up with the Haleigh case for the past couple of months.  I look forward to sharing information in hopes that we can help find the missing link in this case. 

Hello Spydee and ...

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Welcome/Animation31.gif)

Nice to have you join us and we're looking forward to your input on this case!

~Brandi

Thank you so very much!!  I hope I'm doing this right.... Anyway, I've got some questions based on some research I've done.  I'll get my notes together tonight so I can ask them tomorrow.  It's so great to be here in the monkey cage!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Spydee on May 31, 2009, 03:07:08 PM
Have to go for now.  Be back tonight or tomorrow.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 31, 2009, 03:24:45 PM
Hello to all monkey!  I am new to this site but I have been keeping up with the Haleigh case for the past couple of months.  I look forward to sharing information in hopes that we can help find the missing link in this case. 
WELCOME  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Searching on May 31, 2009, 03:30:09 PM
Cookie, I have not seen mlee post and am worried about her.

Brandi,nanners, also, as for the blue dress, it is detailed in an article or 2 about the dress.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=131857&provider=top
New Pictures and Stories About Little Haleigh
Posted By: Jessica Clark     Created: 2/20/2009 6:09:31 PM    Updated: 2/28/2009 12:07:26 AM

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SATSUMA, FL -- Pictures of 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings are posted all over Putnam County. The are on "Missing Child" flyers. Haleigh disappeared from her Satsuma home February 9th.

Friday, Haleigh's family brought out more photographs of the little girl for the media.

And every photograph tells a story.

Like the one of Haleigh as a flower girl in her aunt's wedding in December.



http://wherearethesechildren.blogspot.com/2009/02/ronald-cummings-sister-crystal-shares.html



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: MuffyBee on May 31, 2009, 03:51:23 PM
anybody seen mlee today or lately?

Good afternoon, Cookie  ::MonkeyDance::

mlee:  Last Active:     May 30, 2009, 07:50:53 AM


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 31, 2009, 05:51:45 PM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing70.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 31, 2009, 06:09:10 PM
Oh Brandi, I just love that with the barnboard.  Makes it so rustic. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on May 31, 2009, 06:18:08 PM
Cookie, I have not seen mlee post and am worried about her.

Brandi,nanners, also, as for the blue dress, it is detailed in an article or 2 about the dress.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=131857&provider=top
New Pictures and Stories About Little Haleigh
Posted By: Jessica Clark     Created: 2/20/2009 6:09:31 PM    Updated: 2/28/2009 12:07:26 AM

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SATSUMA, FL -- Pictures of 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings are posted all over Putnam County. The are on "Missing Child" flyers. Haleigh disappeared from her Satsuma home February 9th.

Friday, Haleigh's family brought out more photographs of the little girl for the media.

And every photograph tells a story.

Like the one of Haleigh as a flower girl in her aunt's wedding in December.



http://wherearethesechildren.blogspot.com/2009/02/ronald-cummings-sister-crystal-shares.html


Yep thats where I first saw it and Im glad you were paying attention and found it for Brandi, I also saw a video with other picture from this  wedding on it and there were actually 2 flower girls and they both were dressed in matching dresses..... it was so cute, We need some news on Haleigh soon, like right now!@!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 31, 2009, 06:23:48 PM
snipped from Simon's site.  May 31.

http://www.bloggernews.net/121089

After reading the article, near the bottom is the link for todays radio broadcast.

Kim P. had phoned in. ( I have not listened as of yet to say what was said)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 31, 2009, 06:30:09 PM
snipped from Simon's site.  May 31.

http://www.bloggernews.net/121089

After reading the article, near the bottom is the link for todays radio broadcast.

Kim P. had phoned in. ( I have not listened as of yet to say what was said)

Good Evening Monkeys and New Monkey's... Hi grandma  just got home from work going to see if the interview is posted... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 31, 2009, 06:45:10 PM
Oh Brandi, I just love that with the barnboard.  Makes it so rustic. ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 31, 2009, 08:06:25 PM
Oh Brandi, I just love that with the barnboard.  Makes it so rustic. ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks!

hello all...new monkeys I see! great..fresh ideas...fresh eyes..fresh brain storming....welcome to all..

So, mlee posted yesterday...perhaps she will be here later tonight or tomorrow...thanks to all who answered my inquiry about her...
xxx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 31, 2009, 08:34:47 PM
Well.. Just finished listening to the interview and I took notes.. ::MonkeyTongue::

1. Misty cell phone was taken by investigators- It can show the numbers and also they can get the pings and info from the cell bill.
2. Surveilance tapes around the area have been check from LE
3. They were wondering why cashier check to Ron for child support took awhile.
Well i know if child suppoet is owed you send it to the child support department then they post it and send it to Ron and thats why it might take awhile.. I receive child support and I know in NJ thats how it works.. But not sure how it works in Florida
4. Cobra's client has an area that they wanted to check by certified search dog ( Cobra didnt say who his client was)
5. Washing machine - Cobra was told of 2 stories- the washing machine was on- the washing machine was not on
6. They don't have much info on the van or the blankets- They dont know if it is true that the blanket found in the van was washed, let alone it LE does have the blanket.
7. Time line is still in question
8. Ronald was believed to be @ work from the guys @ work stating he ate @ the cafateria his  cell pings hit tower of his work area..Someone said  unless he left his cell phone @ work if he left and came back.
9. Misty is leading them down the wrong road with the inconsistancies according to Cobra..
10. Kim stated she cannot file a emergency hearing for child custody when DCF is involved.
11. DCF filed an extention becasue new claims came inand they have to be investigated
12. Ron was Amber for 3 and half years and Misty 5- 6 months according to Kim
13. Crystal is not on drugs.. Crystal was on zanax for 1 month after haleigh went missing and has not refilled the bottle. The only medizine she is on is for seizures.
Crytal is not on Loritab or any drugs. When she went to ER they check your blood. DCF has Crystal's records. This all was stated by Kim
14. Ron and his attorney have not gone to meet with LE yet and Crystal has with her attorney.
15. 2 ways for an investigation- This case is tight lip. They were questioning it.
1 Open air
2. Tight lip
16. Kim stated the investigation is on going and LE doing a amazing job.

Just Thinking Outloud...

Did LE conficated any computers in that home ?..

I hope i did not make any notes incorrect from the interview today with Simon.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 31, 2009, 08:42:13 PM
JG....where is this interview at? thanks..
where is everyone tonight?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 31, 2009, 08:42:26 PM
Well.. Just finished listening to the interview and I took notes.. ::MonkeyTongue::

1. Misty cell phone was taken by investigators- It can show the numbers and also they can get the pings and info from the cell bill.
2. Surveilance tapes around the area have been check from LE
3. They were wondering why cashier check to Ron for child support took awhile.
Well i know if child suppoet is owed you send it to the child support department then they post it and send it to Ron and thats why it might take awhile.. I receive child support and I know in NJ thats how it works.. But not sure how it works in Florida
4. Cobra's client has an area that they wanted to check by certified search dog ( Cobra didnt say who his client was)
5. Washing machine - Cobra was told of 2 stories- the washing machine was on- the washing machine was not on
6. They don't have much info on the van or the blankets- They dont know if it is true that the blanket found in the van was washed, let alone it LE does have the blanket.
7. Time line is still in question
8. Ronald was believed to be @ work from the guys @ work stating he ate @ the cafateria his  cell pings hit tower of his work area..Someone said  unless he left his cell phone @ work if he left and came back.
9. Misty is leading them down the wrong road with the inconsistancies according to Cobra..
10. Kim stated she cannot file a emergency hearing for child custody when DCF is involved.
11. DCF filed an extention becasue new claims came inand they have to be investigated
12. Ron was Amber for 3 and half years and Misty 5- 6 months according to Kim
13. Crystal is not on drugs.. Crystal was on zanax for 1 month after haleigh went missing and has not refilled the bottle. The only medizine she is on is for seizures.
Crytal is not on Loritab or any drugs. When she went to ER they check your blood. DCF has Crystal's records. This all was stated by Kim
14. Ron and his attorney have not gone to meet with LE yet and Crystal has with her attorney.
15. 2 ways for an investigation- This case is tight lip. They were questioning it.
1 Open air
2. Tight lip
16. Kim stated the investigation is on going and LE doing a amazing job.

Just Thinking Outloud...

Did LE conficated any computers in that home ?..

I hope i did not make any notes incorrect from the interview today with Simon.



I have a few more minutes left to listen to, but took a break to eat dinner. Your notes are accurate as far as I see.

I would add that Kim Picazio called in and stated that Crystal had never fought the child custody ruling that was made.

I have heard she has and she hasn't up until now.

Good note-taking, JG!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 31, 2009, 08:47:34 PM
so Crystal had never fought to get the kids or keep the kids before now? is that right?
so then  when others have said that Crystal was too intimidated and didn't have money for an attorney etc..that was not accurate then? she just didn't take the time or effort to try to get the kids? even though they were in an "abusive" home? is that correct?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 31, 2009, 08:56:01 PM
so Crystal had never fought to get the kids or keep the kids before now? is that right?
so then  when others have said that Crystal was too intimidated and didn't have money for an attorney etc..that was not accurate then? she just didn't take the time or effort to try to get the kids? even though they were in an "abusive" home? is that correct?

Kim P said after the initial "final" ruling, she did not fight for custody again.

That's how I understood what she said.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 31, 2009, 08:56:32 PM
so Crystal had never fought to get the kids or keep the kids before now? is that right?
so then  when others have said that Crystal was too intimidated and didn't have money for an attorney etc..that was not accurate then? she just didn't take the time or effort to try to get the kids? even though they were in an "abusive" home? is that correct?

Not entirely true..  Lets not twist it - Apparently according to Kim- Crystal did not understand even though the judge gave residential custody not full custody Crystal could of petition a modification.
Aslo according to Kim alot of people don't have money in the Putnam area and instead they just call DCF for an investigation....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 31, 2009, 09:02:08 PM
so Crystal had never fought to get the kids or keep the kids before now? is that right?
so then  when others have said that Crystal was too intimidated and didn't have money for an attorney etc..that was not accurate then? she just didn't take the time or effort to try to get the kids? even though they were in an "abusive" home? is that correct?

I heard the show also and from what I understoof per KP is that the order was made by a magistrate and RC was then awarded custody of the Children. At some point after that award was made CS had made complaints to LE? that RC was possibly driving by and/or harassing CS??? (I'm not 100% sure on the description here please bear with me on that.)
Then when the police? report was made there was an option listed for CS to petition the court in regards to custody arrangements but that the judge whom she eventually appeared in front of said no (according to Kim P. the judges do not like to contradict each others rulings type of thing?) Anyhow Crystal was told by the 2nd or 3rd? judge that the custody arrangement was made final and that terminology being a "final ruling" led CS to believe that she had no other options in the matter either current or in the future.
Legal jargon confuses the best of us. We are not born knowing the laws but too they always say that ignorance is no excuse. And on that note...Please take my own understanding for what it's worth. (Which may not be very much.)
I sure hope that made sense.
 ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on May 31, 2009, 09:09:48 PM
so Crystal had never fought to get the kids or keep the kids before now? is that right?
so then  when others have said that Crystal was too intimidated and didn't have money for an attorney etc..that was not accurate then? she just didn't take the time or effort to try to get the kids? even though they were in an "abusive" home? is that correct?

Not entirely true..  Lets not twist it - Apparently according to Kim- Crystal did not understand even though the judge gave residential custody not full custody Crystal could of petition a modification.
Aslo according to Kim alot of people don't have money in the Putnam area and instead they just call DCF for an investigation....

not twisting anything...just asking for clarification ...
people who don't have money get attorneys assigned to them all the time...lots of people don't have money..not just in that county...if there is a will there is a way...and that is not twisting anything.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 31, 2009, 09:17:35 PM
so Crystal had never fought to get the kids or keep the kids before now? is that right?
so then  when others have said that Crystal was too intimidated and didn't have money for an attorney etc..that was not accurate then? she just didn't take the time or effort to try to get the kids? even though they were in an "abusive" home? is that correct?

Not entirely true..  Lets not twist it - Apparently according to Kim- Crystal did not understand even though the judge gave residential custody not full custody Crystal could of petition a modification.
Aslo according to Kim alot of people don't have money in the Putnam area and instead they just call DCF for an investigation....

not twisting anything...just asking for clarification ...
people who don't have money get attorneys assigned to them all the time...lots of people don't have money..not just in that county...if there is a will there is a way...and that is not twisting anything.

It was also stated  by Kim that Crystal told the truth about using drugs and Ron didn't. he also stated to the judge he was living with his mother and she was helping taking care of the kids. Which he moved out and Ron and Amber moved in together..

I am going back to court with my ex next month for child support and I can not afford an attorney and let alone understand all the jumbo legal terms, but I know this the biggest liars always wins unless you have a good attorney.. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 31, 2009, 09:20:40 PM
so Crystal had never fought to get the kids or keep the kids before now? is that right?
so then  when others have said that Crystal was too intimidated and didn't have money for an attorney etc..that was not accurate then? she just didn't take the time or effort to try to get the kids? even though they were in an "abusive" home? is that correct?

Not entirely true..  Lets not twist it - Apparently according to Kim- Crystal did not understand even though the judge gave residential custody not full custody Crystal could of petition a modification.
Aslo according to Kim alot of people don't have money in the Putnam area and instead they just call DCF for an investigation....

not twisting anything...just asking for clarification ...
people who don't have money get attorneys assigned to them all the time...lots of people don't have money..not just in that county...if there is a will there is a way...and that is not twisting anything.
(I acknowledge that this message was not meant for or to me but...lol.)
According to what KP said during the interview it appears that Crystal was attempting to have the case reheard but that since she was unfamiliar with court proceedure she went about it the wrong way. She also was told by a judge that the custody judgement was final. My take on it is that after that last judge told her that it was a final judgement then she pretty much believed that she had no other options in the matter.
So basically, according to KP, Crystal was ignorant to the law because in reality she could petition the court for a modification to the order. Crystal just didn't know her rights or the laws pertaining to family law.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 31, 2009, 09:22:41 PM
Thanks for the note taking, and clarifications on that interview  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 31, 2009, 09:27:09 PM
Thanks for the note taking, and clarifications on that interview  ::MonkeyAngel::

LOL I'm doing my best to understand it anyway lol.
After hearing all of the interview and mulling what was said around for a while I am finding room to think it is possible that Haleigh is alive. I am saying that because I am hoping and praying that Crystal just lost it one night after finding out information about Misty being the caregiver of her two precious Children. My oh my how this case has it's twists and turns.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 31, 2009, 09:44:37 PM
so Crystal had never fought to get the kids or keep the kids before now? is that right?
so then  when others have said that Crystal was too intimidated and didn't have money for an attorney etc..that was not accurate then? she just didn't take the time or effort to try to get the kids? even though they were in an "abusive" home? is that correct?

Not entirely true..  Lets not twist it - Apparently according to Kim- Crystal did not understand even though the judge gave residential custody not full custody Crystal could of petition a modification.
Aslo according to Kim alot of people don't have money in the Putnam area and instead they just call DCF for an investigation....

not twisting anything...just asking for clarification ...
people who don't have money get attorneys assigned to them all the time...lots of people don't have money..not just in that county...if there is a will there is a way...and that is not twisting anything.

It was also stated  by Kim that Crystal told the truth about using drugs and Ron didn't. he also stated to the judge he was living with his mother and she was helping taking care of the kids. Which he moved out and Ron and Amber moved in together..

I am going back to court with my ex next month for child support and I can not afford an attorney and let alone understand all the jumbo legal terms, but I know this the biggest liars always wins unless you have a good attorney.. ::MonkeyTongue::

Just want to add something else to this interview...Kim had also stated that Crystal was unaware of a LEGAL AID ATTORNEY..that she could have tried to get a hold of one to help her due to financial strain.  So, anyone else maybe this could be an option, if funds are low to get some help when dealing with child support.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 31, 2009, 09:45:23 PM
Thanks for the note taking, and clarifications on that interview  ::MonkeyAngel::

LOL I'm doing my best to understand it anyway lol.
After hearing all of the interview and mulling what was said around for a while I am finding room to think it is possible that Haleigh is alive. I am saying that because I am hoping and praying that Crystal just lost it one night after finding out information about Misty being the caregiver of her two precious Children. My oh my how this case has it's twists and turns.


I am wondering what area  Cobra's client wants to have a certified dog search... ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 31, 2009, 09:47:40 PM
Also from what I understand Ron and his attorney still haven't gone to speak with LE who have made it clear that they had a few things that they wanted to clear up in the case. My question is...WHAT'S THE HOLDUP?????
I appologize for the caps but seriously the questioning pertains to his missing Daughter...His heart remember?
Nothing could hold me back if it were me looking to find out what had happened to my Child and ultimately nothing could hold me back from trying to find my child period.
So why would Ron be reluctant to answer LE's questions?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 31, 2009, 09:49:39 PM
I also listened to Simon's broadcast.  I wanted so much to hear him state that there was TIP that they were looking into.  INSTEAD..........

Simon.....  Ms Pickles is there any new this week concerning Haleigh???

Ms Pickles.....ummmmmmm (sounded like Misty)....NO Simon!!!!

WTF...I was waiting for Ms Pickles to say something about the TIP and they were wanting dogs to do the search.........NOTHING EVEN MENTIONED DURING THE WHOLE BROADCAST. I mean this TIP was right on Simon's website page in his writings.

I have read on another forum that the lady was to go, but due to the heat and the snakes that the dog would not be going.  I have not seen anything posted about the search.  Will keep checking and post what I see.  Uggggggghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 31, 2009, 09:52:30 PM
I also listened to Simon's broadcast.  I wanted so much to hear him state that there was TIP that they were looking into.  INSTEAD..........

Simon.....  Ms Pickles is there any new this week concerning Haleigh???

Ms Pickles.....ummmmmmm (sounded like Misty)....NO Simon!!!!

WTF...I was waiting for Ms Pickles to say something about the TIP and they were wanting dogs to do the search.........NOTHING EVEN MENTIONED DURING THE WHOLE BROADCAST. I mean this TIP was right on Simon's website page in his writings.

I have read on another forum that the lady was to go, but due to the heat and the snakes that the dog would not be going.  I have not seen anything posted about the search.  Will keep checking and post what I see.  Uggggggghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep nothing from Simon or Pickles about the TIP, but Cobra did say his client wanted a certified dog to search a particular area..... ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 31, 2009, 09:53:52 PM
Thanks for the note taking, and clarifications on that interview  ::MonkeyAngel::

LOL I'm doing my best to understand it anyway lol.
After hearing all of the interview and mulling what was said around for a while I am finding room to think it is possible that Haleigh is alive. I am saying that because I am hoping and praying that Crystal just lost it one night after finding out information about Misty being the caregiver of her two precious Children. My oh my how this case has it's twists and turns.


I am wondering what area  Cobra's client wants to have a certified dog search... ::MonkeyEek::

Jersey, did you get the impression that he had contacted LE and yet nothing has been done???  Maybe I misunderstood what he meant.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 31, 2009, 09:55:35 PM
Also from what I understand Ron and his attorney still haven't gone to speak with LE who have made it clear that they had a few things that they wanted to clear up in the case. My question is...WHAT'S THE HOLDUP?????
I appologize for the caps but seriously the questioning pertains to his missing Daughter...His heart remember?
Nothing could hold me back if it were me looking to find out what had happened to my Child and ultimately nothing could hold me back from trying to find my child period.
So why would Ron be reluctant to answer LE's questions?


Good question!!!  Maybe afraid that he may say the wrong thing...maybe knows where she is...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 31, 2009, 09:56:19 PM
Thanks for the note taking, and clarifications on that interview  ::MonkeyAngel::

LOL I'm doing my best to understand it anyway lol.
After hearing all of the interview and mulling what was said around for a while I am finding room to think it is possible that Haleigh is alive. I am saying that because I am hoping and praying that Crystal just lost it one night after finding out information about Misty being the caregiver of her two precious Children. My oh my how this case has it's twists and turns.


I am wondering what area  Cobra's client wants to have a certified dog search... ::MonkeyEek::

Jersey, did you get the impression that he had contacted LE and yet nothing has been done???  Maybe I misunderstood what he meant.

Yes-like LE was at a stand still and if that is true like Cobra said maybe they should not be so tight lip .  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 31, 2009, 09:58:24 PM
Concerning the original custody hearing, Kim P. said that Crystal answered the questions honestly. She said "maybe" Ronald did not answer honestly. She did not say outright that Ronald did not answer them honestly.

I just listened to that part again to be sure of what she said.

(I have a download helper app in firefox that allowed me to download the show as an mp3 and I can stop/play, pause it so I can listen to it carefully.)

Just wanted to make it clear that Kim P. did not say that Ronald lied during that hearing.

He may have lied, but Kim P did not state that.

This is all from that BNN show at http://www.bloggernews.net/121089







Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 31, 2009, 09:59:24 PM
Thanks for the note taking, and clarifications on that interview  ::MonkeyAngel::

LOL I'm doing my best to understand it anyway lol.
After hearing all of the interview and mulling what was said around for a while I am finding room to think it is possible that Haleigh is alive. I am saying that because I am hoping and praying that Crystal just lost it one night after finding out information about Misty being the caregiver of her two precious Children. My oh my how this case has it's twists and turns.


I am wondering what area  Cobra's client wants to have a certified dog search... ::MonkeyEek::
Hopefully if this is the case that they are looking to recover a non live body then my hope and parayer then is that it is the correct place to be looking as her family who loves her, her friends and many of us who have never met yet have come to love this child will have some resolve and closure.
I really do not know what else to say.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 31, 2009, 10:04:19 PM
Thanks for the note taking, and clarifications on that interview  ::MonkeyAngel::

LOL I'm doing my best to understand it anyway lol.
After hearing all of the interview and mulling what was said around for a while I am finding room to think it is possible that Haleigh is alive. I am saying that because I am hoping and praying that Crystal just lost it one night after finding out information about Misty being the caregiver of her two precious Children. My oh my how this case has it's twists and turns.


I am wondering what area  Cobra's client wants to have a certified dog search... ::MonkeyEek::
Hopefully if this is the case that they are looking to recover a non live body then my hope and parayer then is that it is the correct place to be looking as her family who loves her, her friends and many of us who have never met yet have come to love this child will have some resolve and closure.
I really do not know what else to say.

I am wondering why doesn't LE go check the area with a certified search dog? ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 31, 2009, 10:05:44 PM
Also from what I understand Ron and his attorney still haven't gone to speak with LE who have made it clear that they had a few things that they wanted to clear up in the case. My question is...WHAT'S THE HOLDUP?????
I appologize for the caps but seriously the questioning pertains to his missing Daughter...His heart remember?
Nothing could hold me back if it were me looking to find out what had happened to my Child and ultimately nothing could hold me back from trying to find my child period.
So why would Ron be reluctant to answer LE's questions?


Good question!!!  Maybe afraid that he may say the wrong thing...maybe knows where she is...
No excuse for Ron not meeting with LE, none.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 31, 2009, 10:11:08 PM
I had just read something today regarding another case.  They had searched this dwelling 3 times, and FINALLY...went and found another part and the person WAS there. 

Look at the Tori Stafford case, that woman was with them to lead them to where she was and they still couldn't find her.  Still not sure if her body has been found.

Look at Cayee case, how many had been soooooo very close, and had not found her.

Get some more search crews together arm in arm and gooooo again and again. 

See they (LE) feel that this is a family abduction....ARE THEY RIGHT????  or ARE THEY WRONG???  DO THEY REALLY KNOW??????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 31, 2009, 10:12:27 PM
Also from what I understand Ron and his attorney still haven't gone to speak with LE who have made it clear that they had a few things that they wanted to clear up in the case. My question is...WHAT'S THE HOLDUP?????
I appologize for the caps but seriously the questioning pertains to his missing Daughter...His heart remember?
Nothing could hold me back if it were me looking to find out what had happened to my Child and ultimately nothing could hold me back from trying to find my child period.
So why would Ron be reluctant to answer LE's questions?


Good question!!!  Maybe afraid that he may say the wrong thing...maybe knows where she is...
No excuse for Ron not meeting with LE, none.

Who in their right mind would not meet with LE to answers questions regarding your missing child?  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 31, 2009, 10:14:31 PM
Thanks for the note taking, and clarifications on that interview  ::MonkeyAngel::

LOL I'm doing my best to understand it anyway lol.
After hearing all of the interview and mulling what was said around for a while I am finding room to think it is possible that Haleigh is alive. I am saying that because I am hoping and praying that Crystal just lost it one night after finding out information about Misty being the caregiver of her two precious Children. My oh my how this case has it's twists and turns.


I am wondering what area  Cobra's client wants to have a certified dog search... ::MonkeyEek::
Hopefully if this is the case that they are looking to recover a non live body then my hope and parayer then is that it is the correct place to be looking as her family who loves her, her friends and many of us who have never met yet have come to love this child will have some resolve and closure.
I really do not know what else to say.

I am wondering why doesn't LE go check the area with a certified search dog? ::MonkeyTongue::
Possibly a few reasons. Just throwing this out there ok so please don't flog me lol. It is possible that the information is coming from someone who doesn't want any publicity ect... Maybe they are afraid that the Sunshine laws would potentially bring them and or their family members unwanted public attention? Possibly also that the information would be overlooked such as what happened in the CA case. There could be several reasons and those are just off the top of my head. The person offering this information most likely knows that if they are correct as to where Haleigh is then the LE and FBI would be looking into that person and so I am thinking certain the person does not fear anything to do with that aspect of things. Who knows?
We just have to wait and see what comes of this if anything.
As for me in regards to this I hope and pray that the person is beyond wrong and that little Haleigh is with a family member who is taking care of her right now.
MHO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 31, 2009, 10:14:40 PM
I had just read something today regarding another case.  They had searched this dwelling 3 times, and FINALLY...went and found another part and the person WAS there. 

Look at the Tori Stafford case, that woman was with them to lead them to where she was and they still couldn't find her.  Still not sure if her body has been found.

Look at Cayee case, how many had been soooooo very close, and had not found her.

Get some more search crews together arm in arm and gooooo again and again. 

See they (LE) feel that this is a family abduction....ARE THEY RIGHT????  or ARE THEY WRONG???  DO THEY REALLY KNOW??????

Grama.. Did they use search dogs on that case ?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 31, 2009, 10:17:44 PM
I had just read something today regarding another case.  They had searched this dwelling 3 times, and FINALLY...went and found another part and the person WAS there. 

Look at the Tori Stafford case, that woman was with them to lead them to where she was and they still couldn't find her.  Still not sure if her body has been found.

Look at Cayee case, how many had been soooooo very close, and had not found her.

Get some more search crews together arm in arm and gooooo again and again. 

See they (LE) feel that this is a family abduction....ARE THEY RIGHT????  or ARE THEY WRONG???  DO THEY REALLY KNOW??????

Grama.. Did they use search dogs on that case ?

Don't recall reading that.  But the child was alive.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 31, 2009, 10:30:13 PM
I had just read something today regarding another case.  They had searched this dwelling 3 times, and FINALLY...went and found another part and the person WAS there. 

Look at the Tori Stafford case, that woman was with them to lead them to where she was and they still couldn't find her.  Still not sure if her body has been found.

Look at Cayee case, how many had been soooooo very close, and had not found her.

Get some more search crews together arm in arm and gooooo again and again. 

See they (LE) feel that this is a family abduction....ARE THEY RIGHT????  or ARE THEY WRONG???  DO THEY REALLY KNOW??????
I am also wondering if what they use for the dogs to sniff makes a difference to the accuracy of the search. I am wondering if they used Haleigh's pick shirt for the dogs to sniff is what I am getting at. Who is to say that Haleigh didn't have some type of perfume or cleaning solution on her shirt that would throw the dogs off?
I think that it could possibly be very important about the scent of her shirt anyway it seems it would be.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 31, 2009, 10:30:56 PM
I had just read something today regarding another case.  They had searched this dwelling 3 times, and FINALLY...went and found another part and the person WAS there. 

Look at the Tori Stafford case, that woman was with them to lead them to where she was and they still couldn't find her.  Still not sure if her body has been found.

Look at Cayee case, how many had been soooooo very close, and had not found her.

Get some more search crews together arm in arm and gooooo again and again. 

See they (LE) feel that this is a family abduction....ARE THEY RIGHT????  or ARE THEY WRONG???  DO THEY REALLY KNOW??????
I am also wondering if what they use for the dogs to sniff makes a difference to the accuracy of the search. I am wondering if they used Haleigh's """pink""" shirt for the dogs to sniff is what I am getting at. Who is to say that Haleigh didn't have some type of perfume or cleaning solution on her shirt that would throw the dogs off?
I think that it could possibly be very important about the scent of her shirt anyway it seems it would be.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 31, 2009, 10:38:37 PM
And that's another thing...from what I understand there are ways to throw search dogs off path. I'm not 100% sure about how it's done but I am looking into it right now.
It just seems very odd that the dogs were called off so early and also that the dogs didn't lead to anywhere else. Didn't the neighbor say that Haleigh would go over to her house? Where else was Haleigh known to go that the dogs didn't pick up on if any?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 31, 2009, 10:48:50 PM
Here is a how stuff works with search dogs link in case anyone else is interested.

http://animals.howstuffworks.com/animal-facts/sar-dog.htm/printable


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 31, 2009, 11:00:52 PM
I could be way off about the dogs but I am just thinking that there has to be something that has been overlooked somewhere.
I can't remember the show I had watched since it was a long time ago but it was about a dog that could search for miles even when the person they were looking for was traveling in a car. I dunno but it has bothered me about the dogs being called off the search. Something about that just doesn't seem right.

Goodnight Monkeys and guests.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 31, 2009, 11:03:08 PM
I could be way off about the dogs but I am just thinking that there has to be something that has been overlooked somewhere.
I can't remember the show I had watched since it was a long time ago but it was about a dog that could search for miles even when the person they were looking for was traveling in a car. I dunno but it has bothered me about the dogs being called off the search. Something about that just doesn't seem right.

Goodnight Monkeys and guests.


Good Nite Patricia.. Thanks for the post on search dogs... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 31, 2009, 11:05:28 PM
I could be way off about the dogs but I am just thinking that there has to be something that has been overlooked somewhere.
I can't remember the show I had watched since it was a long time ago but it was about a dog that could search for miles even when the person they were looking for was traveling in a car. I dunno but it has bothered me about the dogs being called off the search. Something about that just doesn't seem right.

Goodnight Monkeys and guests.


Good night, Patricia.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 31, 2009, 11:06:42 PM
Thanks for the great discussions this evening...MONKEYS

Time for some sleep...catch everyone in the AM....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: MuffyBee on May 31, 2009, 11:08:03 PM
Good night to all the monkeys headed for the bunky...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Cappuccino on May 31, 2009, 11:10:09 PM
Stopping in to say hi, prayers are always with Haleigh.  I sincerely hope something regarding Haleigh breaks soon, its pretty much a 1/2 year now already....sigh  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 31, 2009, 11:15:19 PM
Thanks for the great discussions this evening...MONKEYS

Time for some sleep...catch everyone in the AM....

Good Nite Grama..

Prayers for Haleigh... ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on May 31, 2009, 11:15:45 PM
Thanks for the great discussions this evening...MONKEYS

Time for some sleep...catch everyone in the AM....

Sleep well, Grama.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on June 01, 2009, 12:04:46 AM
Well.. Just finished listening to the interview and I took notes.. ::MonkeyTongue::

1. Misty cell phone was taken by investigators- It can show the numbers and also they can get the pings and info from the cell bill.
2. Surveilance tapes around the area have been check from LE
3. They were wondering why cashier check to Ron for child support took awhile.
Well i know if child suppoet is owed you send it to the child support department then they post it and send it to Ron and thats why it might take awhile.. I receive child support and I know in NJ thats how it works.. But not sure how it works in Florida
4. Cobra's client has an area that they wanted to check by certified search dog ( Cobra didnt say who his client was)
5. Washing machine - Cobra was told of 2 stories- the washing machine was on- the washing machine was not on
6. They don't have much info on the van or the blankets- They dont know if it is true that the blanket found in the van was washed, let alone it LE does have the blanket.
7. Time line is still in question
8. Ronald was believed to be @ work from the guys @ work stating he ate @ the cafateria his  cell pings hit tower of his work area..Someone said  unless he left his cell phone @ work if he left and came back.
9. Misty is leading them down the wrong road with the inconsistancies according to Cobra..
10. Kim stated she cannot file a emergency hearing for child custody when DCF is involved.
11. DCF filed an extention becasue new claims came inand they have to be investigated
12. Ron was Amber for 3 and half years and Misty 5- 6 months according to Kim
13. Crystal is not on drugs.. Crystal was on zanax for 1 month after haleigh went missing and has not refilled the bottle. The only medizine she is on is for seizures.
Crytal is not on Loritab or any drugs. When she went to ER they check your blood. DCF has Crystal's records. This all was stated by Kim
14. Ron and his attorney have not gone to meet with LE yet and Crystal has with her attorney.
15. 2 ways for an investigation- This case is tight lip. They were questioning it.
1 Open air
2. Tight lip
16. Kim stated the investigation is on going and LE doing a amazing job.

Just Thinking Outloud...

Did LE conficated any computers in that home ?..

I hope i did not make any notes incorrect from the interview today with Simon.



Thanks JG for the notes.  I had to attend my grandson's high school graduation this evening.  I will have to listen to the interview in the morning.

Good night Monkeys!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 01, 2009, 12:06:34 AM
Good night Heart.

And good night monkeys. Bedtime for me too.

Maybe tomorrow we will have news about Haleigh.

Just maybe.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Thunder Bunny on June 01, 2009, 12:08:27 AM
Also from what I understand Ron and his attorney still haven't gone to speak with LE who have made it clear that they had a few things that they wanted to clear up in the case. My question is...WHAT'S THE HOLDUP?????
I appologize for the caps but seriously the questioning pertains to his missing Daughter...His heart remember?
Nothing could hold me back if it were me looking to find out what had happened to my Child and ultimately nothing could hold me back from trying to find my child period.
So why would Ron be reluctant to answer LE's questions?


Good question!!!  Maybe afraid that he may say the wrong thing...maybe knows where she is...
No excuse for Ron not meeting with LE, none.

Who in their right mind would not meet with LE to answers questions regarding your missing child?  ::MonkeyTongue::
Someone that got a note about the child being taken and that someone is afraid to tell the truth now because they're all going to be in hot water for this going on so long and blowing up bigger than anyone in the family could suspect.

I'm thinking about the house with the guy and the shotgun and not letting anyone look on his property....bugging me tonight.  <big sigh>


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Thunder Bunny on June 01, 2009, 12:37:07 AM
This was somewhat of an eye opener for me.  Cut from
http://www.stopfamilyabductionsnow.org/about_abduction.html

Five Things You Might Not Know About Family Abductions

   1. Each year, over 203,000 children (78% of all missing children!) in the U.S. are abducted by a family member, usually a parent.
   2. The biggest motive for family abduction is revenge against another parent, not the child's safety.
   3. More than half of abducting parents have a history of violent behavior, a criminal record, or a substance abuse problem.
   4. Children abducted by family members often suffer severe lifelong emotional and psychological damage.
   5. Nearly 70% of law enforcement agencies do not have a written policy on how to respond to a family abduction.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Blumonkey on June 01, 2009, 02:10:58 AM
This case is heartbreaking. Many of you have done so much to help bring Haleigh home and are to be commended. I just think when we stray away from Misty in any direction we move further from the truth. Her "inconsistent statements" trouble me. I pray every day that this is the day she will be found.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 01, 2009, 07:11:01 AM
Good MORNING Monkeys....

Art Harris Exclusive - Cobra &  Daniel Snodgrass takedown...

http://www.artharris.com/2009/06/01/exclusive-cobras-takedown-controversy/#more-2138

According to the article the Haliegh Bug Center has now moved to Baker County.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 01, 2009, 08:25:50 AM
Good MORNING Monkeys....

Art Harris Exclusive - Cobra &  Daniel Snodgrass takedown...

http://www.artharris.com/2009/06/01/exclusive-cobras-takedown-controversy/#more-2138

According to the article the Haliegh Bug Center has now moved to Baker County.

eh?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 01, 2009, 08:27:41 AM
Brandi...thanks for the clarification on what KP said about Ron telling the truth/maybe not telling the truth...
wishing there was news today of Haleigh....just a snippet from LE to let us know that they are still searching for tips/clues etc...something...

morning all monkeys...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 01, 2009, 08:28:21 AM
Thunder...that was interesting about family abduction too!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: alagary on June 01, 2009, 08:34:39 AM
After reading AHs details about Snodgrass I'm sure that in most areas of the country that he would be safer in jail .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 01, 2009, 08:39:40 AM
HH...don't know if you say my earlier post to you...did you see Crystal and Marie or are they back home as reported? thanks..
They are back home, but Crystal is gonna try to go back to the running of the Haleigh Center as soon as the Doc tells her she can drive and they are still trying to get a staff for the center set up ,so it can stay open day and night!

so, if the center was already moved to Baker county when HH was down in Satsuma, who said that they were going to get staff so that the center could be open day and night? it would have been closed down then!
I remember a picture from the week or so before HH went to Satsuma and it looked vacant then! which I remember that I mentioned ....HH said that it was an old picture...but apparently it was not??? very confusing....does Art really know what he is talking about? or did someone give HH false info? what the heck....we don't know what to believe....Is the Haleighbug center going to be operated out of Crystals home now? I hope that she does not give up on this...it could be helpful in getting clues/tips for Haleigh....at least she is/would be trying to do something by keeping it open...even if it is just a phone line out of her home....jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on June 01, 2009, 09:19:37 AM
Good morning Monkeys and Guests!

I don't know when the following was posted to the Haleighbug.com:

Haleigh’s Mother, Crystal Sheffield, has returned to her home in Baker County, Florida with her family. The Sheffield family will continue their vigilant efforts to keep the search for little Haleigh alive, and in the minds of the public. The family would like to extend their utmost gratitude to all the kindhearted individuals from across the nation who have sent letters of encouragement and support during this time of sorrow and distress. Crystal Sheffield remains determined and optimistic to once again walk hand in hand with her beautiful little girl, to push her in a swing, and to tuck her into bed at night. She pleads for anyone with information about little Haleigh’s whereabouts to come forward immediately, and reunite this family forevermore.

 http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:B2-MHAmJb_YJ:www.haleighbug.com/+haileigh+bug+center+baker+county&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mioyshi on June 01, 2009, 09:30:02 AM
HH...don't know if you say my earlier post to you...did you see Crystal and Marie or are they back home as reported? thanks..
They are back home, but Crystal is gonna try to go back to the running of the Haleigh Center as soon as the Doc tells her she can drive and they are still trying to get a staff for the center set up ,so it can stay open day and night!

so, if the center was already moved to Baker county when HH was down in Satsuma, who said that they were going to get staff so that the center could be open day and night? it would have been closed down then!
I remember a picture from the week or so before HH went to Satsuma and it looked vacant then! which I remember that I mentioned ....HH said that it was an old picture...but apparently it was not??? very confusing....does Art really know what he is talking about? or did someone give HH false info? what the heck....we don't know what to believe....Is the Haleighbug center going to be operated out of Crystals home now? I hope that she does not give up on this...it could be helpful in getting clues/tips for Haleigh....at least she is/would be trying to do something by keeping it open...even if it is just a phone line out of her home....jmo

good morning cookie and all monkeys,,,,,,,you do bring about a few very interesting questions.
It appears no one knows what the heck is going on with certainty..Poor Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 01, 2009, 09:36:35 AM
Good MORNING Monkeys....

Art Harris Exclusive - Cobra &  Daniel Snodgrass takedown...

http://www.artharris.com/2009/06/01/exclusive-cobras-takedown-controversy/#more-2138

According to the article the Haliegh Bug Center has now moved to Baker County.

snipped from the above article........

But Cobra says he grew concerned about Snodgrass after he’d paid a visit to the Haleighbug Center, which was shut down in Satsuma last week and moved to the hay farm in Baker County, where Haleigh’s mother, Crystal Sheffield, lives with her fiancé, and their one hear old, while undergoing further tests for seizures that make her unable to drive, according to her attorney, Kim Picazio.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 01, 2009, 09:43:13 AM
Good Morning, maybe because of Crystal's poor health, it just makes more sense to close the Haleighbug in Satsuma, and operate out of her own house? I don't know?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on June 01, 2009, 09:46:35 AM
Haleigh's Case At a Standstill
Posted By: Jessica Clark Posted By: Jonathan Feldmann     Created: 5/24/2009 2:47:18 PM    Updated: 5/24/2009 10:05:32 PM



GLEN SAINT MARY, FL
-- Monday is National Missing Children's Day.

The case that captured so many people's attention on the First Coast this year is that of 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings.

In Baker County, Haleigh's mother and her family have almost regained a sense of normalcy.

However, there is a big, gaping hole.

Haleigh has been missing for almost four months.

"I try to keep myself occupied so I don't stay stressed out," Crystal Sheffield, Haleigh's mother, told First Coast News Sunday.

Sheffield continues to take care of her youngest child. Haleigh's grandmother, Marie Griffis, is back on her school bus route and tends to their farm in Glen St. Mary.

It's a hundred miles away from where Haleigh disappeared from her father's Putnam County home in February.

Griffis said, "There's not a waking moment that we're not wondering where is Haleigh and who has her. It's awful. It's just awful."

On the edge of the Griffis property is a large sign with Haleigh's picture on it, asking if you've seen her.

When it comes to the investigation, there's not much new to report.

Griffis said she and her daughter keep in touch with investigators at the Putnam County Sheriff's Office.

Griffis said, the investigators have "this one path that they're on. But everything that comes into them just goes nowhere-- but right back to the same road they're going down. Until they get all the information they need, we're at a standstill."

The case of the missing girl has periodically shifted attention onto so many different angles and extra players in the past few months.

Haleigh's mother said, "I think it's nonsense because [the attention] should not be taken off of Haleigh, and it has been. Everybody is worried about what everybody else is doing. They need to be worried about Haleigh."

Meanwhile, life goes on but the pain of living life without answers about Haleigh continues.

"It's awful knowing we have to go on in our daily lives without her," Griffis said.

Haleigh's mother teared up and said, "There's no way to describe it."

If you know any information about the Haleigh Cummings case or have seen her, call Crime Stoppers at 1-888-277-TIPS.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=138565&catid=3


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 01, 2009, 09:48:39 AM
Good Morning, maybe because of Crystal's poor health, it just makes more sense to close the Haleighbug in Satsuma, and operate out of her own house? I don't know?

well...yes...and honestly, she can't stay away from home forever...she would have had to go home at some point...sad though...it is almost feeling like another door is closing in the search for Haleigh..
sigh...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 01, 2009, 10:05:50 AM
Good Morning, maybe because of Crystal's poor health, it just makes more sense to close the Haleighbug in Satsuma, and operate out of her own house? I don't know?

well...yes...and honestly, she can't stay away from home forever...she would have had to go home at some point...sad though...it is almost feeling like another door is closing in the search for Haleigh..
sigh...
Yes, it does.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 01, 2009, 10:51:39 AM
Good MORNING Monkeys....

Art Harris Exclusive - Cobra &  Daniel Snodgrass takedown...

http://www.artharris.com/2009/06/01/exclusive-cobras-takedown-controversy/#more-2138

According to the article the Haliegh Bug Center has now moved to Baker County.

Grama- very interesting article.. The timeline is very important.. I found 13 Marty's with criminal records that one of them might be the one that lives with Snodgrass. I am going to check them out.. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on June 01, 2009, 11:23:32 AM
Putnam County Sheriff's Office
Warrants Section


BROOKS,AMBER NICOLE    W   F   3/29/1989   TRAFFIC OFFENSE

http://public.pcso.us/pubwarrants/warrants_srch_s.aspx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 01, 2009, 11:27:51 AM
Heart...any way that I can get your email?
thanks....
you can send it to my throwaway addy....cookie7@usa.com


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 01, 2009, 12:03:19 PM
Good MORNING Monkeys....

Art Harris Exclusive - Cobra &  Daniel Snodgrass takedown...

http://www.artharris.com/2009/06/01/exclusive-cobras-takedown-controversy/#more-2138

According to the article the Haliegh Bug Center has now moved to Baker County.

Grama- very interesting article.. The timeline is very important.. I found 13 Marty's with criminal records that one of them might be the one that lives with Snodgrass. I am going to check them out.. ::MonkeyTongue::

Here is the info from white pages for Mr. Snodgrass.  Jersey can you get into Google Earth and check this address out...looks to me on the little map, that this leads right to the water.

Daniel E Snodgrass   home
101 Ganey Ln
Satsuma, FL 32189-2218
phone number unavailable
Household: Joan Newberger


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on June 01, 2009, 12:04:23 PM
Heart...any way that I can get your email?
thanks....
you can send it to my throwaway addy....cookie7@usa.com

Done cookie, thanks!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 01, 2009, 12:18:02 PM
Heart...any way that I can get your email?
thanks....
you can send it to my throwaway addy....

Done cookie, thanks!

nanners, as they say...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 01, 2009, 12:36:22 PM
Good MORNING Monkeys....

Art Harris Exclusive - Cobra &  Daniel Snodgrass takedown...

http://www.artharris.com/2009/06/01/exclusive-cobras-takedown-controversy/#more-2138

According to the article the Haliegh Bug Center has now moved to Baker County.

Grama- very interesting article.. The timeline is very important.. I found 13 Marty's with criminal records that one of them might be the one that lives with Snodgrass. I am going to check them out.. ::MonkeyTongue::

Here is the info from white pages for Mr. Snodgrass.  Jersey can you get into Google Earth and check this address out...looks to me on the little map, that this leads right to the water.

Daniel E Snodgrass   home
101 Ganey Ln
Satsuma, FL 32189-2218
phone number unavailable
Household: Joan Newberger


Ok Grama.. I will check the area out.. Thanks ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 01, 2009, 01:04:05 PM
snipped for Grama..Here is the info from white pages for Mr. Snodgrass.  Jersey can you get into Google Earth and check this address out...looks to me on the little map, that this leads right to the water.

Daniel E Snodgrass   home
101 Ganey Ln
Satsuma, FL 32189-2218
phone number unavailable
Household: Joan Newberger


Grama you know I am not good in posting maps.. Here the link...

http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=29.572463,-81.598358&spn=0.001736,0.003015&z=18


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: klaasend on June 01, 2009, 01:18:44 PM
snipped for Grama..Here is the info from white pages for Mr. Snodgrass.  Jersey can you get into Google Earth and check this address out...looks to me on the little map, that this leads right to the water.

Daniel E Snodgrass   home
101 Ganey Ln
Satsuma, FL 32189-2218
phone number unavailable
Household: Joan Newberger


Grama you know I am not good in posting maps.. Here the link...

http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=29.572463,-81.598358&spn=0.001736,0.003015&z=18

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/SnodgrassHome.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on June 01, 2009, 01:20:05 PM
Good MORNING Monkeys....

Art Harris Exclusive - Cobra &  Daniel Snodgrass takedown...

http://www.artharris.com/2009/06/01/exclusive-cobras-takedown-controversy/#more-2138

According to the article the Haliegh Bug Center has now moved to Baker County.

Grama- very interesting article.. The timeline is very important.. I found 13 Marty's with criminal records that one of them might be the one that lives with Snodgrass. I am going to check them out.. ::MonkeyTongue::

Here is the info from white pages for Mr. Snodgrass.  Jersey can you get into Google Earth and check this address out...looks to me on the little map, that this leads right to the water.

Daniel E Snodgrass   home
101 Ganey Ln
Satsuma, FL 32189-2218
phone number unavailable
Household: Joan Newberger


Ok Grama.. I will check the area out.. Thanks ::MonkeyTongue::

JG, Grama,  has a relations been researched for Daniel Bass and the Brooks.
I ran across this so far:

Instrument: 501127   Trans Code: MAR - MARRIAGE RECORD
Book: 985   File Date: 06-08-2004
Consideration: $ 0.00   Description: 2004 0249

BASS WILLIAM HAROLD   EX PARTE
BROOKS LILLIAN ANN


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 01, 2009, 01:50:01 PM
I do not believe Daniel Snodgrass lives on Ganey Lane.

In the video on Art's site (http://www.artharris.com/) Cobra is getting ready to "take down" Snodgrass and is talking to a police officer. The officer says he is going to be standing by at the end of Betsy Ross. There is a Daniel Snodgrass with an address of 116 Betsy Ross Lane, Satsuma, FL. I believe that is where he lives.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Image98.png)
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Image100.png)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 01, 2009, 01:53:02 PM
That's 116 Betsy Ross Place, not Lane.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 01, 2009, 02:03:43 PM
HH...don't know if you say my earlier post to you...did you see Crystal and Marie or are they back home as reported? thanks..
They are back home, but Crystal is gonna try to go back to the running of the Haleigh Center as soon as the Doc tells her she can drive and they are still trying to get a staff for the center set up ,so it can stay open day and night!

so, if the center was already moved to Baker county when HH was down in Satsuma, who said that they were going to get staff so that the center could be open day and night? it would have been closed down then!
I remember a picture from the week or so before HH went to Satsuma and it looked vacant then! which I remember that I mentioned ....HH said that it was an old picture...but apparently it was not??? very confusing....does Art really know what he is talking about? or did someone give HH false info? what the heck....we don't know what to believe....Is the Haleighbug center going to be operated out of Crystals home now? I hope that she does not give up on this...it could be helpful in getting clues/tips for Haleigh....at least she is/would be trying to do something by keeping it open...even if it is just a phone line out of her home....jmo

Yes, the Haleighbug Center reportedly was closed down last week sometime. Crystal's website (www.haleighbug.com) states that she has moved back to Baker County.

However, the site has an outdated portion, as it suggests people come visit the center still:

Quote
If you are in the Satsuma, Florida area, please feel free to stop by the Haleigh Bug Center located at 1185 U.S. 17 South, Satsuma, Florida, 32189.  The Haleigh Bug Center was established serves as a central gathering point for the community to offer love and support to Haleigh’s family while they struggle to cope with this tragic event.

But I believe that is just a sloppy/slow website maintenance issue.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 01, 2009, 02:05:39 PM
That's 116 Betsy Ross Place, not Lane.

Thanks, Brandi ~  Went back to www.whitepages.com and typed in the Betsy Ross address.  I am not sure how current this site is, unless someone else has a different site to check out.


Joan S Poole     home

116 Betsy Ross Pl

Satsuma, FL 32189-2902

phone number unavailable


Household: Everett P Snodgrass
SPONSORED LINKS
Lookup Background Info for Joan Poole.
 
Everett P Snodgrass     home

116 Betsy Ross Pl

Satsuma, FL 32189-2902

phone number unavailable

Listing Details
Household: Joan S Poole
SPONSORED LINKS
Lookup Background Info for Everett Snodgrass.
 
Search School Yearbooks in Satsuma FL

 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 01, 2009, 02:09:01 PM
That's 116 Betsy Ross Place, not Lane.


Hi Brandi.. Grama just was looking into addresses that might be affiliated with  Snodgrass . We were doing some research on Snodgrass... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on June 01, 2009, 02:13:17 PM
Cookie, I have not seen mlee post and am worried about her.


She must be ok, she has logged into her myspace today. 
Her mood says she's Annoyed though.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 01, 2009, 02:22:52 PM
That's 116 Betsy Ross Place, not Lane.


Hi Brandi.. Grama just was looking into addresses that might be affiliated with  Snodgrass . We were doing some research on Snodgrass... ::MonkeyTongue::

Well then. There's another one for you.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 01, 2009, 02:43:32 PM
That's 116 Betsy Ross Place, not Lane.


Hi Brandi.. Grama just was looking into addresses that might be affiliated with  Snodgrass . We were doing some research on Snodgrass... ::MonkeyTongue::

Well then. There's another one for you.

Sooo.. Just where does that SOB .. SO hang his hat??????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 01, 2009, 02:57:46 PM
That's 116 Betsy Ross Place, not Lane.


Hi Brandi.. Grama just was looking into addresses that might be affiliated with  Snodgrass . We were doing some research on Snodgrass... ::MonkeyTongue::

Well then. There's another one for you.

Sooo.. Just where does that SOB .. SO hang his hat??????

As I said, he was living at the Betsy Ross residence on March 20, when Cobra visited him and "talked" to him.

By the way, he is not a convicted SO ... yet.

His trial is set for June 22, later this month.

(Just trying to be fair here.)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 01, 2009, 03:00:14 PM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing68.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on June 01, 2009, 03:02:27 PM
That's 116 Betsy Ross Place, not Lane.


Hi Brandi.. Grama just was looking into addresses that might be affiliated with  Snodgrass . We were doing some research on Snodgrass... ::MonkeyTongue::

Well then. There's another one for you.

Sooo.. Just where does that SOB .. SO hang his hat??????
I dunno Grams but after reading about him on AH's website he should be in a cell and not out roaming the streets freely and trying to give furniture away at the HBC that's for sure.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on June 01, 2009, 03:07:21 PM
So the purple building is no longer the HBC? I would think that unless Mr. Reagan (sp?) had just packed up and moved on that he or at least someone would still be there and available.
I understand that Crystal needed to be with her family for goodness sake if she is having seizures and the seizures are brought on by stress then someone else needs to take the reigns for a while. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 01, 2009, 03:10:19 PM
Cookie, I have not seen mlee post and am worried about her.


She must be ok, she has logged into her myspace today. 
Her mood says she's Annoyed though.

thanks!
tell her to come back here....have seen her on another forum but have not been there when she is...xxx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on June 01, 2009, 03:16:30 PM
I thought about how Ron hasn't gone in to resolve the questioning by LE yet.
I realize that he has an attorney who has probably told him not to speak to LE and that's all fine and good IF he were guilty of something.
I'm not sure how the law works in a situation like this but it seems to me that both Ron and his attorney(s) are hindering the case also now. Just like Misty.
Isn't there some type of charge like obstructing or ??? during the process of an ongoing investigation?
I mean considering that Ron had willingly given statements and participated in the questioning in the beginning and now all the sudden that seems to have stopped.
I just don't know the laws. Grrr I knew I should have gone to law school lol.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on June 01, 2009, 03:24:44 PM
Not sure if this has been posted yet. Mr. Holmseth filed a complaint against KP.

http://writeintoaction.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on June 01, 2009, 03:29:08 PM
Not sure if this has been posted yet. Mr. Holmseth filed a complaint against KP.

http://writeintoaction.com/

WOW! I just saw this posted at the site (link provided above).

"Do You Have Any Information About The "Editing" of 911 Tapes At The Putnam County Sheriff's Department?"

"If" that tape were edited the tape itself can be checked out by people who specialize in that type of thing. FBI even.
Well that is a SERIOUS accusation right there for sure!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 01, 2009, 03:31:09 PM
I thought about how Ron hasn't gone in to resolve the questioning by LE yet.
I realize that he has an attorney who has probably told him not to speak to LE and that's all fine and good IF he were guilty of something.
I'm not sure how the law works in a situation like this but it seems to me that both Ron and his attorney(s) are hindering the case also now. Just like Misty.
Isn't there some type of charge like obstructing or ??? during the process of an ongoing investigation?
I mean considering that Ron had willingly given statements and participated in the questioning in the beginning and now all the sudden that seems to have stopped.
I just don't know the laws. Grrr I knew I should have gone to law school lol.


I know we all want him to talk to LE. I know we all want more information. I know we all want Haleigh brought back home. And if I were a parent of a missing child, I know I would talk to LE, even after listening to this lecture. I think. ;-)

But there are reasons why innocent people should not and choose not to talk to the police. I listened to this lecture about a year ago. It's very interesting and enlightening, and long, as I recall. But worth the listen if you have the time, IMO.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4097602514885833865

James Duane (a law professor) http://www.regent.edu/acad/schlaw/faculty_staff/duane.cfm explains why innocent people should never talk to the police.

Just bringing this up because it kind of answers your question, and it is very eye-opening about our justice system.





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on June 01, 2009, 03:32:29 PM
I thought about how Ron hasn't gone in to resolve the questioning by LE yet.
I realize that he has an attorney who has probably told him not to speak to LE and that's all fine and good IF he were guilty of something.
I'm not sure how the law works in a situation like this but it seems to me that both Ron and his attorney(s) are hindering the case also now. Just like Misty.
Isn't there some type of charge like obstructing or ??? during the process of an ongoing investigation?
I mean considering that Ron had willingly given statements and participated in the questioning in the beginning and now all the sudden that seems to have stopped.
I just don't know the laws. Grrr I knew I should have gone to law school lol.


I know we all want him to talk to LE. I know we all want more information. I know we all want Haleigh brought back home. And if I were a parent of a missing child, I know I would talk to LE, even after listening to this lecture. I think. ;-)

But there are reasons why innocent people should not and choose not to talk to the police. I listened to this lecture about a year ago. It's very interesting and enlightening, and long, as I recall. But worth the listen if you have the time, IMO.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4097602514885833865

James Duane (a law professor) http://www.regent.edu/acad/schlaw/faculty_staff/duane.cfm explains why innocent people should never talk to the police.

Just bringing this up because it kind of answers your question, and it is very eye-opening about our justice system.




Thank you Brandi. :)
I'm off to read it now.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 01, 2009, 03:38:04 PM
Not sure if this has been posted yet. Mr. Holmseth filed a complaint against KP.

http://writeintoaction.com/

WOW! I just saw this posted at the site (link provided above).

"Do You Have Any Information About The "Editing" of 911 Tapes At The Putnam County Sheriff's Department?"

"If" that tape were edited the tape itself can be checked out by people who specialize in that type of thing. FBI even.
Well that is a SERIOUS accusation right there for sure!

another complaint against KP?
thanks for the info...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on June 01, 2009, 03:41:00 PM
 ::MonkeyEek::
And I've only heard a spare few minutes of the video yet.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 01, 2009, 03:45:53 PM
Brandi, thanks for the new pic  ::MonkeyAngel::  I'm so lost with all this, I know they were discussing the 911 tape on WS in the rumors section. Boy, if someone edited that tape, but maybe it was edited for the public, because LE didn't want some of the things made public  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 01, 2009, 03:46:49 PM
I sure hope LE knows what's all going on with this case, because where I'm sitting this is a mess. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on June 01, 2009, 04:19:12 PM
Not sure if this has been posted yet. Mr. Holmseth filed a complaint against KP.

http://writeintoaction.com/

Just checking in for a bit praying something has changed ::MonkeyNoNo:: So sad I do believe this case is WAY COLD.....and when just started reading the complaint and saw the name Al Sharpton, well that was enough for me to stop and move on, especially after the Tawana Brawley incident I don't take him as serious as I do a cold ....... zero credibility in my book!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 01, 2009, 04:24:37 PM
Not sure if this has been posted yet. Mr. Holmseth filed a complaint against KP.

http://writeintoaction.com/

Just checking in for a bit praying something has changed ::MonkeyNoNo:: So sad I do believe this case is WAY COLD.....and when just started reading the complaint and saw the name Al Sharpton, well that was enough for me to stop and move on, especially after the Tawana Brawley incident I don't take him as serious as I do a cold ....... zero credibility in my book!!!!!
I'm with you on that. I believe this case to way cold also.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on June 01, 2009, 04:29:58 PM
Not sure if this has been posted yet. Mr. Holmseth filed a complaint against KP.

http://writeintoaction.com/

Just checking in for a bit praying something has changed ::MonkeyNoNo:: So sad I do believe this case is WAY COLD.....and when just started reading the complaint and saw the name Al Sharpton, well that was enough for me to stop and move on, especially after the Tawana Brawley incident I don't take him as serious as I do a cold ....... zero credibility in my book!!!!!
I'm with you on that. I believe this case to way cold also.

Rosie~I've thought that for soooooooo long and it is terribly frustrating that there continue to be more road blocks thrown up. I understand to a tiny degree why Ron would be leery of the LE, but D@mnit if my child were missing (my heart), I wouldn't give a rat's patootie what happened to me as I'd just want my child back at any/all cost.........Poor Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 01, 2009, 04:35:15 PM
I don't understand any of this anymore in this case. ::MonkeyNoNo:: Only thing I know is Haleigh is missing.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on June 01, 2009, 04:41:35 PM
I don't understand any of this anymore in this case. ::MonkeyNoNo:: Only thing I know is Haleigh is missing.

I know, it's become a circus just like the Caylee Anthony case, except this has zero news coverage in the MSM and minimal coverage anywhere else.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 01, 2009, 06:37:13 PM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing71.jpg)



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: klaasend on June 01, 2009, 06:45:37 PM
I don't understand any of this anymore in this case. ::MonkeyNoNo:: Only thing I know is Haleigh is missing.

I know, it's become a circus just like the Caylee Anthony case, except this has zero news coverage in the MSM and minimal coverage anywhere else.

At least Caylee's body was found.  Seems to me this case (Haliegh) is headed in the direction of so many others that are never solved.  Haleigh will end up like Trenton Ducket where we never really know what happened.

The reason there is no media coverage any more is the FAMILY is not demanding it.  The family could make it happen and they aren't. 

It's all very sad.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Spydee on June 01, 2009, 06:57:42 PM
Hello!  Is anyone around?  I have a question and was hoping a few super monkeys might could help me figure this out.  I've been trying to figure out who William A Sheffield is and why his name has never popped up.  According to a putnam county civil case number 541994DR007804FDXXXX between Johnny M and Nancy M Sheffield, item 36 states that Johnny is excluded as the father of William A Sheffield.  Anyone ever heard of Will, William,  Bill?  It could be a mistake in the court docs but I doubt it.  I did notice however that the judges name was William A. - maybe just a mistake.  Nancy was sueing for unpaid child support.

I hear frustration and confusion in some of the posts.  Don't give up!!!!  There is an answer to this!  I've been working for a couple of months on different angles to this case and found myself giving up.  So I took a few days and began to go back and not read the gossip but review all the video I could so I could hear and document exactly what was said, how it was said, and by whom.  It's amazing to see how much I originally missed and how clearer the picture is now after having done that.

I'll stop for know but I have pages of notes of discrepancies of what was said, when it was said, and when it changed.  Very Interesting!!!!!!  And it's from both sides not just one. 

I've got to go for now but will be back later tonight. 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 01, 2009, 07:27:05 PM
Hello!  Is anyone around?  I have a question and was hoping a few super monkeys might could help me figure this out.  I've been trying to figure out who William A Sheffield is and why his name has never popped up.  According to a putnam county civil case number 541994DR007804FDXXXX between Johnny M and Nancy M Sheffield, item 36 states that Johnny is excluded as the father of William A Sheffield.  Anyone ever heard of Will, William,  Bill?  It could be a mistake in the court docs but I doubt it.  I did notice however that the judges name was William A. - maybe just a mistake.  Nancy was sueing for unpaid child support.

I hear frustration and confusion in some of the posts.  Don't give up!!!!  There is an answer to this!  I've been working for a couple of months on different angles to this case and found myself giving up.  So I took a few days and began to go back and not read the gossip but review all the video I could so I could hear and document exactly what was said, how it was said, and by whom.  It's amazing to see how much I originally missed and how clearer the picture is now after having done that.

I'll stop for know but I have pages of notes of discrepancies of what was said, when it was said, and when it changed.  Very Interesting!!!!!!  And it's from both sides not just one. 

I've got to go for now but will be back later tonight. 



I have looked through both Wyk's list of players in this case and mine.

I have found no William (or derivative of the name) Sheffield.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on June 01, 2009, 07:50:56 PM
I don't understand any of this anymore in this case. ::MonkeyNoNo:: Only thing I know is Haleigh is missing.

I know, it's become a circus just like the Caylee Anthony case, except this has zero news coverage in the MSM and minimal coverage anywhere else.

At least Caylee's body was found.  Seems to me this case (Haliegh) is headed in the direction of so many others that are never solved.  Haleigh will end up like Trenton Ducket where we never really know what happened.

The reason there is no media coverage any more is the FAMILY is not demanding it.  The family could make it happen and they aren't. 

It's all very sad.

The reason the family is not pushing for media coverage, because they have to many issues, that are not very pretty in the public eye.. Too much dirty laundry, so they shy away from the coverage.   And with reports, true or not, we won't know until they have all packed up and left the area.  Town is too small, I imagine a trip to the grocery store with people pointing and whispering rather upsets ones day.  So, I was not surprised when it was reported that people were moving..  Unfortunately, what ever secrets they have, travel with them...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 01, 2009, 07:57:28 PM
I don't understand any of this anymore in this case. ::MonkeyNoNo:: Only thing I know is Haleigh is missing.

I know, it's become a circus just like the Caylee Anthony case, except this has zero news coverage in the MSM and minimal coverage anywhere else.

At least Caylee's body was found.  Seems to me this case (Haliegh) is headed in the direction of so many others that are never solved.  Haleigh will end up like Trenton Ducket where we never really know what happened.

The reason there is no media coverage any more is the FAMILY is not demanding it.  The family could make it happen and they aren't. 

It's all very sad.

The reason the family is not pushing for media coverage, because they have to many issues, that are not very pretty in the public eye.. Too much dirty laundry, so they shy away from the coverage.   And with reports, true or not, we won't know until they have all packed up and left the area.  Town is too small, I imagine a trip to the grocery store with people pointing and whispering rather upsets ones day.  So, I was not surprised when it was reported that people were moving..  Unfortunately, what ever secrets they have, travel with them...

Good Evening melee.... ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 01, 2009, 08:10:10 PM
Is there any way we can help keep Haleigh in the news.. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 01, 2009, 08:13:34 PM
mlee....good to see you!

Spydee...would be interested in your no gossip/rumor point of view...! can you brief us on what you have discovered? thanks...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: lady on June 01, 2009, 08:33:43 PM
OMG goodevening monkeys...I havent been on much..Trying to keep up on the Nevaeh case..So much has gone on here and Ive missed it all...Wasnt today to be Cobras hearing??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on June 01, 2009, 08:35:27 PM
Is there any way we can help keep Haleigh in the news.. ::MonkeyTongue::

Jersey, only as long as we have people like Art Harris doing Article, Cobra acting in the capacity of a private citizen, and Simon doing radio Blogs.  If they can interest reporters in the local Media.  If Crystal and Ron would stop running from the Media and start working together to promote Haleigh's image.   We could start Haleigh Web sites, and keep them updated. Free accounts, and I can write the pages.  The more you have out there, with key search words the more people hit the sites.  As a group we could do this..  Cost nothing.

Cookie, Thank you..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 01, 2009, 08:39:03 PM
also, the parents could any amount of air time I would imagine if they wanted it to keep Haleigh's name out there couldn't they? I would think that any news show would welcome them..especially if Ron and Crystal appeared together and worked together on it...not sniping at each other..just pleading for Haleigh...
everyone has gone silent...why?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on June 01, 2009, 08:45:03 PM
also, the parents could any amount of air time I would imagine if they wanted it to keep Haleigh's name out there couldn't they? I would think that any news show would welcome them..especially if Ron and Crystal appeared together and worked together on it...not sniping at each other..just pleading for Haleigh...
everyone has gone silent...why?

They have totally ducked for cover.  That's all it is.  They had things they never wanted the world to know, or thought there was nothing wrong in what they were doing.. And it came back and bit them both in the butts.  I guess they believe that if they hide from the public, everything will be okay.. Never be okay again.  Bad decisions with their life styles, will follow them now for the rest of their lives.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 01, 2009, 08:48:36 PM
also, the parents could any amount of air time I would imagine if they wanted it to keep Haleigh's name out there couldn't they? I would think that any news show would welcome them..especially if Ron and Crystal appeared together and worked together on it...not sniping at each other..just pleading for Haleigh...
everyone has gone silent...why?

They have totally ducked for cover.  That's all it is.  They had things they never wanted the world to know, or thought there was nothing wrong in what they were doing.. And it came back and bit them both in the butts.  I guess they believe that if they hide from the public, everything will be okay.. Never be okay again.  Bad decisions with their life styles, will follow them now for the rest of their lives.
Well I'm sure there is a lot of things that came out that they are very upset about, but who cares, their daughter is missing, what does it matter about them anyway, and all their issues. Do they not want their daughter back, or what?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on June 01, 2009, 08:53:46 PM
also, the parents could any amount of air time I would imagine if they wanted it to keep Haleigh's name out there couldn't they? I would think that any news show would welcome them..especially if Ron and Crystal appeared together and worked together on it...not sniping at each other..just pleading for Haleigh...
everyone has gone silent...why?

They have totally ducked for cover.  That's all it is.  They had things they never wanted the world to know, or thought there was nothing wrong in what they were doing.. And it came back and bit them both in the butts.  I guess they believe that if they hide from the public, everything will be okay.. Never be okay again.  Bad decisions with their life styles, will follow them now for the rest of their lives.
Well I'm sure there is a lot of things that came out that they are very upset about, but who cares, their daughter is missing, what does it matter about them anyway, and all their issues. Do they not want their daughter back, or what?

I don't know.. I wish I had answers..  I have a free website on bravehost, I will rewrite the index page and set it up for Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 01, 2009, 09:04:19 PM
Thanks mlee  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 01, 2009, 09:05:14 PM
OMG goodevening monkeys...I havent been on much..Trying to keep up on the Nevaeh case..So much has gone on here and Ive missed it all...Wasnt today to be Cobras hearing??

Hiyas, lady! Good to see you!

According to Art Harris (www.artharris.com) ... "No trial date has been set for Staubs; a call to Snodgrass’s attorney requesting comment wasn’t returned by Sunday."


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 01, 2009, 09:15:52 PM
OMG goodevening monkeys...I havent been on much..Trying to keep up on the Nevaeh case..So much has gone on here and Ive missed it all...Wasnt today to be Cobras hearing??

Hiyas, lady! Good to see you!

According to Art Harris (www.artharris.com) ... "No trial date has been set for Staubs; a call to Snodgrass’s attorney requesting comment wasn’t returned by Sunday."

evening Miss Brandi!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 01, 2009, 09:29:56 PM
OMG goodevening monkeys...I havent been on much..Trying to keep up on the Nevaeh case..So much has gone on here and Ive missed it all...Wasnt today to be Cobras hearing??

Hiyas, lady! Good to see you!

According to Art Harris (www.artharris.com) ... "No trial date has been set for Staubs; a call to Snodgrass’s attorney requesting comment wasn’t returned by Sunday."

evening Miss Brandi!

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 01, 2009, 09:33:43 PM
OMG goodevening monkeys...I havent been on much..Trying to keep up on the Nevaeh case..So much has gone on here and Ive missed it all...Wasnt today to be Cobras hearing??

Hiyas, lady! Good to see you!

According to Art Harris (www.artharris.com) ... "No trial date has been set for Staubs; a call to Snodgrass’s attorney requesting comment wasn’t returned by Sunday."

evening Miss Brandi!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/hello/ani-p.gif)

you are too cute!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 01, 2009, 09:43:53 PM
MLEE  is that really YOU!!!!!    HEY EVERYONE TIME FOR THE MONKEY DANCE

Grab your Bananas and let's move..........

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 ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 01, 2009, 09:49:00 PM
PLEASE ~  DO NOT Quote the pics, or I will be in deep doo dooooo!!!!! Thanks,

Just wanted to welcome mlee.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 01, 2009, 09:49:25 PM
Grama..leave it to you to get this party started! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


back to Crystal for one moment...
If Crystal is so worried about Ron Jr. being abused by ron and Misty....why did she leave him again?
Can anyone answer me that? she is so concerned via her attorney KP about the abuse that happened to him and Haleigh....wouldn't she want to stay in Satsuma until after the investigation or the ruling was over? be close at hand to make sure, keep a watchful eye out? let ron know that she is in this for the long haul to get her children in her custody? stay around to let ron know that she is watching him and that there better not be any abuse or she will know about it?
<<<<shaking my head>>>>




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: lady on June 01, 2009, 09:53:51 PM
OMG goodevening monkeys...I havent been on much..Trying to keep up on the Nevaeh case..So much has gone on here and Ive missed it all...Wasnt today to be Cobras hearing??

Hiyas, lady! Good to see you!

According to Art Harris (www.artharris.com) ... "No trial date has been set for Staubs; a call to Snodgrass’s attorney requesting comment wasn’t returned by Sunday."

evening Miss Brandi!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/hello/ani-p.gif)
Aww thanks Brandi...So sad when these little ones keep going missing..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 01, 2009, 09:54:17 PM
Grama..leave it to you to get this party started! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


back to Crystal for one moment...
If Crystal is so worried about Ron Jr. being abused by ron and Misty....why did she leave him again?
Can anyone answer me that? she is so concerned via her attorney KP about the abuse that happened to him and Haleigh....wouldn't she want to stay in Satsuma until after the investigation or the ruling was over? be close at hand to make sure, keep a watchful eye out? let ron know that she is in this for the long haul to get her children in her custody? stay around to let ron know that she is watching him and that there better not be any abuse or she will know about it?
<<<<shaking my head>>>>

Well, cookie it has taken a toll on her health already with the seizures.  I am sure she would love to be right next door to monitor each day, but maybe they have enough to proceed on the custody issue.  I am sure there are locals that will be notifying them of incidents.  Besides who would want to be there each time Ron drives by and flips his finger at the center. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 01, 2009, 10:05:18 PM
Grama..leave it to you to get this party started! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


back to Crystal for one moment...
If Crystal is so worried about Ron Jr. being abused by ron and Misty....why did she leave him again?
Can anyone answer me that? she is so concerned via her attorney KP about the abuse that happened to him and Haleigh....wouldn't she want to stay in Satsuma until after the investigation or the ruling was over? be close at hand to make sure, keep a watchful eye out? let ron know that she is in this for the long haul to get her children in her custody? stay around to let ron know that she is watching him and that there better not be any abuse or she will know about it?
<<<<shaking my head>>>>

Well, cookie it has taken a toll on her health already with the seizures.  I am sure she would love to be right next door to monitor each day, but maybe they have enough to proceed on the custody issue.  I am sure there are locals that will be notifying them of incidents.  Besides who would want to be there each time Ron drives by and flips his finger at the center. 

I understand the health issues...but are her seizures going to  happen any less being farther away from ron jr? would think that it would be more stressful being away from him than being in the same county as he is...
mark my words...the custody issue will go away...KP will go away..the funds at the Haleighbug center will go away...Crystal will not pursue the custody thing...jmo



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on June 01, 2009, 10:06:46 PM
OMG goodevening monkeys...I havent been on much..Trying to keep up on the Nevaeh case..So much has gone on here and Ive missed it all...Wasnt today to be Cobras hearing??

Hiyas, lady! Good to see you!

According to Art Harris (www.artharris.com) ... "No trial date has been set for Staubs; a call to Snodgrass’s attorney requesting comment wasn’t returned by Sunday."

evening Miss Brandi!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/hello/ani-p.gif)

Brandi,  will you donate, with your name on it, one of your favorite images of Haleigh and I will use it on the index web page?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 01, 2009, 10:09:52 PM
OMG goodevening monkeys...I havent been on much..Trying to keep up on the Nevaeh case..So much has gone on here and Ive missed it all...Wasnt today to be Cobras hearing??

Hiyas, lady! Good to see you!

According to Art Harris (www.artharris.com) ... "No trial date has been set for Staubs; a call to Snodgrass’s attorney requesting comment wasn’t returned by Sunday."

evening Miss Brandi!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/hello/ani-p.gif)

Brandi,  will you donate, with your name on it, one of your favorite images of Haleigh and I will use it on the index web page?

Sure, mlee.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on June 01, 2009, 10:13:25 PM
Good evening monkeys and guests.......welcome Spydee and new monkeys ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 01, 2009, 10:13:39 PM
going to the monkey bunk now.....
talk to you all tomorrow...
behave and don't have too much fun without me! ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 01, 2009, 10:18:11 PM
going to the monkey bunk now.....
talk to you all tomorrow...
behave and don't have too much fun without me! ::MonkeyTongue::

Good night, cookie.

I am going to turn the computer off early tonight, myself.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on June 01, 2009, 10:20:06 PM
Ideas for the web page are welcome.  Colors, type.. basic design... wide open for suggestions.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on June 01, 2009, 10:22:35 PM
Ideas for the web page are welcome.  Colors, type.. basic design... wide open for suggestions.

Purple would be a nice color ?  JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 01, 2009, 10:26:45 PM
Ideas for the web page are welcome.  Colors, type.. basic design... wide open for suggestions.

Haleigh's favorite colours are purple and pink. (As most little girls' are.)  lol

They go well together, IMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 01, 2009, 11:02:12 PM
Ideas for the web page are welcome.  Colors, type.. basic design... wide open for suggestions.

I am not too artist and never designed a page.  Not sure how much your gonna do, but thought maybe have a smaller pic of HaLiegh in the middle, and family pics surrounding her.  This is in addition to Brandi's pic.  We are being neutral here, so both sides.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on June 01, 2009, 11:22:24 PM
Ideas for the web page are welcome.  Colors, type.. basic design... wide open for suggestions.

Well its in the works..  waiting for confirmation on the website itself.  We have a Domain.  I wanted to make sure it was close enought to the other to draw people in.. We have  "Haleighbug.net" ..  So, she is on the drawing board.. Ideas????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on June 01, 2009, 11:27:31 PM
 This is what I think your saying grama...   Brandi's  Haleigh  center of page  and cameo her Mom and Dad on either side.  I won't put Junior on there..  we still have to protect him..  Okay,  Misty and Chad?   Or just Ron in cameo on Left and Crystal in Cameo on Right?

I have a script, that hides on the side until you take your mouse near it.. Can use it for links to other sites, runs down full side of page..  Also have butterfly script, butterfly's fly across page.  Really cute..   Bottom middle script for slide show.

Got a beautiful purple background with butterfly's embossed on it......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Spydee on June 01, 2009, 11:46:34 PM
Wow Mlee! I'm super impressed!!!  I wish I could help but creative powers aren't part of my spydee kit.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Spydee on June 01, 2009, 11:51:27 PM
I think you're right about having just Ron and Crystal in the cameo's and not the others.  Keeping it simple and focused is good. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on June 02, 2009, 12:03:00 AM
This is what I think your saying grama...   Brandi's  Haleigh  center of page  and cameo her Mom and Dad on either side.  I won't put Junior on there..  we still have to protect him..  Okay,  Misty and Chad?   Or just Ron in cameo on Left and Crystal in Cameo on Right?

I have a script, that hides on the side until you take your mouse near it.. Can use it for links to other sites, runs down full side of page..  Also have butterfly script, butterfly's fly across page.  Really cute..   Bottom middle script for slide show.

Got a beautiful purple background with butterfly's embossed on it......

It sounds wonderful......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on June 02, 2009, 12:08:44 AM
Grama..leave it to you to get this party started! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


back to Crystal for one moment...
If Crystal is so worried about Ron Jr. being abused by ron and Misty....why did she leave him again?
Can anyone answer me that? she is so concerned via her attorney KP about the abuse that happened to him and Haleigh....wouldn't she want to stay in Satsuma until after the investigation or the ruling was over? be close at hand to make sure, keep a watchful eye out? let ron know that she is in this for the long haul to get her children in her custody? stay around to let ron know that she is watching him and that there better not be any abuse or she will know about it?
<<<<shaking my head>>>>

Well, cookie it has taken a toll on her health already with the seizures.  I am sure she would love to be right next door to monitor each day, but maybe they have enough to proceed on the custody issue.  I am sure there are locals that will be notifying them of incidents.  Besides who would want to be there each time Ron drives by and flips his finger at the center. 
Amen  Grama, LE wants things back to normal and yes, dealing with Ron and his family all the time right there in Satsuma would cause more stress,she cant do anything if she was right next door anyway, they wont let her see Ron Jr. until her visitation time anyway, and there is a certain amount of danger for her there, you never know when someone is gonna freak out and do something stupid, and she does have a little baby to take care of at the same time this is going on, if she comes to Satsuma full time and leaves Cloe at home for her safety then she is being a bad mother to her, so its kinda a loose loose situation!...................Im sure its hard to make any decision!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on June 02, 2009, 12:12:38 AM
also, the parents could any amount of air time I would imagine if they wanted it to keep Haleigh's name out there couldn't they? I would think that any news show would welcome them..especially if Ron and Crystal appeared together and worked together on it...not sniping at each other..just pleading for Haleigh...
everyone has gone silent...why?

They have totally ducked for cover.  That's all it is.  They had things they never wanted the world to know, or thought there was nothing wrong in what they were doing.. And it came back and bit them both in the butts.  I guess they believe that if they hide from the public, everything will be okay.. Never be okay again.  Bad decisions with their life styles, will follow them now for the rest of their lives.
Well I'm sure there is a lot of things that came out that they are very upset about, but who cares, their daughter is missing, what does it matter about them anyway, and all their issues. Do they not want their daughter back, or what?
Your right, they should be traveling around to every news show that would have them and talk and talk about Haleigh, sadly, its not happening, Ron and Misty is hiding out at Gramma Sykes and Crystal is sick, and its all gotten so crazy that it has turned into a big mess!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Thunder Bunny on June 02, 2009, 12:45:06 AM
Just wanted to add my gripe here.  I wish the HELL they'd get on the media too instead of hiding behind the darn attorneys.  <GROWL>  I don't care what they've done.  I don't care what their dirty laundry is.  I don't care who they see and who they sleep with and what drugs they do.  I want THEIR CHILD to come home.  I'm so freaking I R R I T A T E D.

Great idea about the web page Mlee.  Sounds beautiful already.
Yes Cookie, I agree, I want to hear what Spydee has to say.  (and I'm STILL going to tell you what I thought now, 4 months later after watching Geraldo and Ronald)
Welcome Spydee and come on with it.  We need new eyes.
Agreed Brandi, keeping it fair because it's ALL looking dirty right now and thank you for the link about innocence and talking to law.
Patricia, you're awesome.  Keep it up.  I'm listening.  lol
And last, whoever said (Cookie?) that it will never go to court regarding custody of Jr., I believe it sista.  I'm starting to think KP has just come in to stir things up and make some $$ now too.  You're right, Ronald and Crystal could've presented a united front in looking for their daughter as they started at the beginning.  Or they could've at least taken misty out back and figured out where Haleigh is, Texas Style....

am I frustrated much?  Only when it comes to this little girl!!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Blumonkey on June 02, 2009, 01:23:49 AM

I am praying for Divine intervention for a break in this case. I have come to believe that's what it will take. God bless Haleigh and all those who care about her.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on June 02, 2009, 05:00:08 AM
Ronald Squires age 72 is listed as a relative for Donald Robert Squires, Florida on www.Peoplefinders.com
My guess is "Joe" Stephen Squires is Texas is a dud. IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on June 02, 2009, 06:24:48 AM
Grama..leave it to you to get this party started! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


back to Crystal for one moment...
If Crystal is so worried about Ron Jr. being abused by ron and Misty....why did she leave him again?
Can anyone answer me that? she is so concerned via her attorney KP about the abuse that happened to him and Haleigh....wouldn't she want to stay in Satsuma until after the investigation or the ruling was over? be close at hand to make sure, keep a watchful eye out? let ron know that she is in this for the long haul to get her children in her custody? stay around to let ron know that she is watching him and that there better not be any abuse or she will know about it?
<<<<shaking my head>>>>




You know, I went back to the first of the case, and the first issue that came about was the absolute division of camps, and the vigil's that only one family would attend.
Something happened then..  Second, is when Geraldo came in, and.. now, don't misunderstand me, I don't think Geraldo was part of the change,  and I would imagine his producers would have talked to Crystal first. Possible, some one called the Geraldo show to get the interview.  Most of what he does, is a script in front of a teleprompter.  But, also well known to hit pressure points and nerves, which he did with Ron.  With Crystal, someone promoted her going into the abuse.  Someone in Satsuma is the one that did the Divide and Conquer bit. Someone did not want them to become a force together. Separated they would be weaker.  The someone or someones who divided them is someone to take a look at.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 02, 2009, 07:11:49 AM
This is what I think your saying grama...   Brandi's  Haleigh  center of page  and cameo her Mom and Dad on either side.  I won't put Junior on there..  we still have to protect him..  Okay,  Misty and Chad?   Or just Ron in cameo on Left and Crystal in Cameo on Right?

I have a script, that hides on the side until you take your mouse near it.. Can use it for links to other sites, runs down full side of page..  Also have butterfly script, butterfly's fly across page.  Really cute..   Bottom middle script for slide show.

Got a beautiful purple background with butterfly's embossed on it......

mlee you can play around with it.  Brandi's pic maybe best used by itself. Possibly another smaller one of HaLiegh with the surrounding one's.  I just think that it maybe toooooo much and take away from Brandi's photo. Like I said, I am not artistic, so have a go at it, and see how it shapes up.  Your the creator...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: starcat29 on June 02, 2009, 07:25:37 AM
Love what u did brandi.

I see nothing really new about haleigh how sad i hope one day she is found alive and who done this sits in jail for life


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 02, 2009, 07:49:30 AM
Grama..leave it to you to get this party started! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


back to Crystal for one moment...
If Crystal is so worried about Ron Jr. being abused by ron and Misty....why did she leave him again?
Can anyone answer me that? she is so concerned via her attorney KP about the abuse that happened to him and Haleigh....wouldn't she want to stay in Satsuma until after the investigation or the ruling was over? be close at hand to make sure, keep a watchful eye out? let ron know that she is in this for the long haul to get her children in her custody? stay around to let ron know that she is watching him and that there better not be any abuse or she will know about it?
<<<<shaking my head>>>>

Well, cookie it has taken a toll on her health already with the seizures.  I am sure she would love to be right next door to monitor each day, but maybe they have enough to proceed on the custody issue.  I am sure there are locals that will be notifying them of incidents.  Besides who would want to be there each time Ron drives by and flips his finger at the center. 
Amen  Grama, LE wants things back to normal and yes, dealing with Ron and his family all the time right there in Satsuma would cause more stress,she cant do anything if she was right next door anyway, they wont let her see Ron Jr. until her visitation time anyway, and there is a certain amount of danger for her there, you never know when someone is gonna freak out and do something stupid, and she does have a little baby to take care of at the same time this is going on, if she comes to Satsuma full time and leaves Cloe at home for her safety then she is being a bad mother to her, so its kinda a loose loose situation!...................Im sure its hard to make any decision!

well, she has been there for what, almost 4 months and she has been perfectly safe hasn't she? nothing has happened to her physically has it in that amount of time? even when she and KP were spewing the worst allegations of abuse on tv for all the world to see, nothing happened to her then right? so, all of a sudden when no one is saying anything, now she is in danger? that old dog don't hunt anymore...imo,...besides, if anything happened to Crystal, who would be the first person that they would look at? ron of course...And if this was Ron moving back to his home 90 miles away, some would have a field day saying what a horrible person he was for leaving the place where Haleigh disappeared from...so really, it is a no win situation for either of them..
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 02, 2009, 07:51:19 AM
^^^oh, and I forgot to add in my highlighted red above post...actually Crystal has 2 babies to take care, Chloe and Ron jr...does one need her any more than the other one?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 02, 2009, 07:54:33 AM
Just wanted to add my gripe here.  I wish the HELL they'd get on the media too instead of hiding behind the darn attorneys.  <GROWL>  I don't care what they've done.  I don't care what their dirty laundry is.  I don't care who they see and who they sleep with and what drugs they do.  I want THEIR CHILD to come home.  I'm so freaking I R R I T A T E D.

Great idea about the web page Mlee.  Sounds beautiful already.
Yes Cookie, I agree, I want to hear what Spydee has to say.  (and I'm STILL going to tell you what I thought now, 4 months later after watching Geraldo and Ronald)
Welcome Spydee and come on with it.  We need new eyes.
Agreed Brandi, keeping it fair because it's ALL looking dirty right now and thank you for the link about innocence and talking to law.
Patricia, you're awesome.  Keep it up.  I'm listening.  lol
And last, whoever said (Cookie?) that it will never go to court regarding custody of Jr., I believe it sista.  I'm starting to think KP has just come in to stir things up and make some $$ now too.  You're right, Ronald and Crystal could've presented a united front in looking for their daughter as they started at the beginning.  Or they could've at least taken misty out back and figured out where Haleigh is, Texas Style....

am I frustrated much?  Only when it comes to this little girl!!!!!!


Thunder...would really love to hear your theory now since  re watching the Geraldo tape...
when we keep things fair and not on either of the parents side, the perspective changes a bit....
neither of these parents have clean hands in all of this..neither is any better or any worse than the other one in my opinion...





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on June 02, 2009, 08:20:44 AM
Just wanted to add my gripe here.  I wish the HELL they'd get on the media too instead of hiding behind the darn attorneys.  <GROWL>  I don't care what they've done.  I don't care what their dirty laundry is.  I don't care who they see and who they sleep with and what drugs they do.  I want THEIR CHILD to come home.  I'm so freaking I R R I T A T E D.

Great idea about the web page Mlee.  Sounds beautiful already.
Yes Cookie, I agree, I want to hear what Spydee has to say.  (and I'm STILL going to tell you what I thought now, 4 months later after watching Geraldo and Ronald)
Welcome Spydee and come on with it.  We need new eyes.
Agreed Brandi, keeping it fair because it's ALL looking dirty right now and thank you for the link about innocence and talking to law.
Patricia, you're awesome.  Keep it up.  I'm listening.  lol
And last, whoever said (Cookie?) that it will never go to court regarding custody of Jr., I believe it sista.  I'm starting to think KP has just come in to stir things up and make some $$ now too.  You're right, Ronald and Crystal could've presented a united front in looking for their daughter as they started at the beginning.  Or they could've at least taken misty out back and figured out where Haleigh is, Texas Style....

am I frustrated much?  Only when it comes to this little girl!!!!!!


Thunder...would really love to hear your theory now since  re watching the Geraldo tape...
when we keep things fair and not on either of the parents side, the perspective changes a bit....
neither of these parents have clean hands in all of this..neither is any better or any worse than the other one in my opinion...





To really work anything on this case.. That's exactly what we have to do.. treat both sides equally.  Both are equally responsible for the welfare of these children.  Steps taken by either side separately reflect on any outcome.   Look at John Walsh, from day one he began to fight, for the Families rights,  Bringing attention to the lost child,  Gaining legal changes in the system for other parents who lose their children.  We have no idea if their was dirty laundry in their lives.  Never became an issue.  And both parents fought together. 

Ron and Crystal need to find a solid ground together and start working together to find Little Haleigh, or to find out what Happened to Little Haleigh.
Let the past be the past and open up a new future as Parents who want their Child home, and come to some kind of mutual agreement for the welfare of Little Junior. 

I found Kim's first Statement to NC, and it just went all over me.  This is taken out of context.  But, it was a statement that Kim made prior to the website, to the Haleighbug center. But in her original statements about her representation of Crystal.

She stated,  she had first been hired to handle the Media..  Although, she really is an attorney who represents clients with Family issues, like Custody.

One rather contradicts the other.  Like an oxymoron.  The following, was right smack in the middle of the initial conversation.  Now, tell me.. is this not an odd statement for an Attorney to make, when they are promoting the Concept of a Missing Living Child?
========
GRACE: Why do you speak of Haleigh -- why do you speak of Haleigh in the past tense? I notice that you said Haleigh was a child with a lot of physical problems.

PICAZIO: Because she doesn`t have those physical problems anymore.

GRACE: OK, with me, everyone, Kim Picazio, attorney newly hired, attorney newly retained for Haleigh`s biological mother
======


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 02, 2009, 08:36:49 AM
right mlee...



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 02, 2009, 09:40:36 AM
Good Morning, good for you mlee for starting a webpage for Haleigh.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 02, 2009, 09:50:48 AM
Good Morning, good for you mlee for starting a webpage for Haleigh.  ::MonkeyAngel::

morning Rosie....

yes, mlee is doing a very good thing!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 02, 2009, 09:57:32 AM
Good Morning, good for you mlee for starting a webpage for Haleigh.  ::MonkeyAngel::

morning Rosie....

yes, mlee is doing a very good thing!
Yes, and I hope LE in Satsuma are still working hard on this case.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on June 02, 2009, 10:18:37 AM
Grama..leave it to you to get this party started! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


back to Crystal for one moment...
If Crystal is so worried about Ron Jr. being abused by ron and Misty....why did she leave him again?
Can anyone answer me that? she is so concerned via her attorney KP about the abuse that happened to him and Haleigh....wouldn't she want to stay in Satsuma until after the investigation or the ruling was over? be close at hand to make sure, keep a watchful eye out? let ron know that she is in this for the long haul to get her children in her custody? stay around to let ron know that she is watching him and that there better not be any abuse or she will know about it?
<<<<shaking my head>>>>

Well, cookie it has taken a toll on her health already with the seizures.  I am sure she would love to be right next door to monitor each day, but maybe they have enough to proceed on the custody issue.  I am sure there are locals that will be notifying them of incidents.  Besides who would want to be there each time Ron drives by and flips his finger at the center. 
Amen  Grama, LE wants things back to normal and yes, dealing with Ron and his family all the time right there in Satsuma would cause more stress,she cant do anything if she was right next door anyway, they wont let her see Ron Jr. until her visitation time anyway, and there is a certain amount of danger for her there, you never know when someone is gonna freak out and do something stupid, and she does have a little baby to take care of at the same time this is going on, if she comes to Satsuma full time and leaves Cloe at home for her safety then she is being a bad mother to her, so its kinda a loose loose situation!...................Im sure its hard to make any decision!

AMEN HH~ I was married to a man who did the same thing to his ex-wife, the mother of my stepchildren, he did everything to frustrate her visitation even though the judge ordered that any time she was in town (because he moved them over 1000 miles away), she could see them...........N O T!!!!!!! He would say they were going to be at the lake (in the middle of winter), or that they already had plans after her plane landed. It was only when I noticed what really was going on after our marriage that I demanded they have regular visitations with their mother, even if I had to pay to fly the to California, and even then it was a tough battle. He was extrememly manipulative and technically he was alientating them from their mother. When my oldest stepson graduated HS I had a party at the house and invited all his friends and his mother because she was flying in and had no place to hold a party herself, well while he was getting dressed for graduation my ex went upstairs and asked him to "disinvite" her because he said it was "too hard on his parents", I called BS on that and said that she WOULD be there and if he had a problem with it he could pack up and move out of the house. Then I had my family sit with her while I was (as I did) so she didn't feel left out. This was just one of the many stunts he pulled to frustrate her seeing the kids over the yrs. But, it came back to bite him in the b@tt as neither of them have any relationship with their father, one just married and kept the ceremony a secret so he wouldn't show up and both have told him if he ever shows up on their property they will call the police and then get a restraining order and they now have a good relationship with their mother as they can view things as they truly were............you reap what you sow and the truth will prevail one day!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: jules3699 on June 02, 2009, 10:27:34 AM
Grama..leave it to you to get this party started! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


back to Crystal for one moment...
If Crystal is so worried about Ron Jr. being abused by ron and Misty....why did she leave him again?
Can anyone answer me that? she is so concerned via her attorney KP about the abuse that happened to him and Haleigh....wouldn't she want to stay in Satsuma until after the investigation or the ruling was over? be close at hand to make sure, keep a watchful eye out? let ron know that she is in this for the long haul to get her children in her custody? stay around to let ron know that she is watching him and that there better not be any abuse or she will know about it?
<<<<shaking my head>>>>

Well, cookie it has taken a toll on her health already with the seizures.  I am sure she would love to be right next door to monitor each day, but maybe they have enough to proceed on the custody issue.  I am sure there are locals that will be notifying them of incidents.  Besides who would want to be there each time Ron drives by and flips his finger at the center. 
Amen  Grama, LE wants things back to normal and yes, dealing with Ron and his family all the time right there in Satsuma would cause more stress,she cant do anything if she was right next door anyway, they wont let her see Ron Jr. until her visitation time anyway, and there is a certain amount of danger for her there, you never know when someone is gonna freak out and do something stupid, and she does have a little baby to take care of at the same time this is going on, if she comes to Satsuma full time and leaves Cloe at home for her safety then she is being a bad mother to her, so its kinda a loose loose situation!...................Im sure its hard to make any decision!

AMEN HH~ I was married to a man who did the same thing to his ex-wife, the mother of my stepchildren, he did everything to frustrate her visitation even though the judge ordered that any time she was in town (because he moved them over 1000 miles away), she could see them...........N O T!!!!!!! He would say they were going to be at the lake (in the middle of winter), or that they already had plans after her plane landed. It was only when I noticed what really was going on after our marriage that I demanded they have regular visitations with their mother, even if I had to pay to fly the to California, and even then it was a tough battle. He was extrememly manipulative and technically he was alientating them from their mother. When my oldest stepson graduated HS I had a party at the house and invited all his friends and his mother because she was flying in and had no place to hold a party herself, well while he was getting dressed for graduation my ex went upstairs and asked him to "disinvite" her because he said it was "too hard on his parents", I called BS on that and said that she WOULD be there and if he had a problem with it he could pack up and move out of the house. Then I had my family sit with her while I was (as I did) so she didn't feel left out. This was just one of the many stunts he pulled to frustrate her seeing the kids over the yrs. But, it came back to bite him in the b@tt as neither of them have any relationship with their father, one just married and kept the ceremony a secret so he wouldn't show up and both have told him if he ever shows up on their property they will call the police and then get a restraining order and they now have a good relationship with their mother as they can view things as they truly were............you reap what you sow and the truth will prevail one day!

Hello and good morning to all....I agree with you HH and IM.  From the way things have been said in the court doc and other things that have been brought up, seems like Ron has done many things to keep the children from Crystal on many occasions.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 02, 2009, 10:28:16 AM
Very good post Island, and I believe truth will prevail in the end.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on June 02, 2009, 10:44:06 AM
Grama..leave it to you to get this party started! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


back to Crystal for one moment...
If Crystal is so worried about Ron Jr. being abused by ron and Misty....why did she leave him again?
Can anyone answer me that? she is so concerned via her attorney KP about the abuse that happened to him and Haleigh....wouldn't she want to stay in Satsuma until after the investigation or the ruling was over? be close at hand to make sure, keep a watchful eye out? let ron know that she is in this for the long haul to get her children in her custody? stay around to let ron know that she is watching him and that there better not be any abuse or she will know about it?
<<<<shaking my head>>>>

Well, cookie it has taken a toll on her health already with the seizures.  I am sure she would love to be right next door to monitor each day, but maybe they have enough to proceed on the custody issue.  I am sure there are locals that will be notifying them of incidents.  Besides who would want to be there each time Ron drives by and flips his finger at the center. 
Amen  Grama, LE wants things back to normal and yes, dealing with Ron and his family all the time right there in Satsuma would cause more stress,she cant do anything if she was right next door anyway, they wont let her see Ron Jr. until her visitation time anyway, and there is a certain amount of danger for her there, you never know when someone is gonna freak out and do something stupid, and she does have a little baby to take care of at the same time this is going on, if she comes to Satsuma full time and leaves Cloe at home for her safety then she is being a bad mother to her, so its kinda a loose loose situation!...................Im sure its hard to make any decision!

AMEN HH~ I was married to a man who did the same thing to his ex-wife, the mother of my stepchildren, he did everything to frustrate her visitation even though the judge ordered that any time she was in town (because he moved them over 1000 miles away), she could see them...........N O T!!!!!!! He would say they were going to be at the lake (in the middle of winter), or that they already had plans after her plane landed. It was only when I noticed what really was going on after our marriage that I demanded they have regular visitations with their mother, even if I had to pay to fly the to California, and even then it was a tough battle. He was extrememly manipulative and technically he was alientating them from their mother. When my oldest stepson graduated HS I had a party at the house and invited all his friends and his mother because she was flying in and had no place to hold a party herself, well while he was getting dressed for graduation my ex went upstairs and asked him to "disinvite" her because he said it was "too hard on his parents", I called BS on that and said that she WOULD be there and if he had a problem with it he could pack up and move out of the house. Then I had my family sit with her while I was (as I did) so she didn't feel left out. This was just one of the many stunts he pulled to frustrate her seeing the kids over the yrs. But, it came back to bite him in the b@tt as neither of them have any relationship with their father, one just married and kept the ceremony a secret so he wouldn't show up and both have told him if he ever shows up on their property they will call the police and then get a restraining order and they now have a good relationship with their mother as they can view things as they truly were............you reap what you sow and the truth will prevail one day!

Hello and good morning to all....I agree with you HH and IM.  From the way things have been said in the court doc and other things that have been brought up, seems like Ron has done many things to keep the children from Crystal on many occasions.

Morning Jules, good to see you!! ITA, especially remebering the trip to Texas/Mexico. Crystal reminds me very my of my ex's ex wife as she was only 20 when she married him and had been very submissive and didn't really know how to "fight back", it wasn't until he married me (and I was 31), that he learned what a b!tch was! But, he was so proud of everything he did to obtain custody that he shared his little secrets with me...............big mistake, HUGE mistake as I turned around and did the exact same things to him that he did to her, only difference was that I was not as naive as she was and when it came to protecting my son I was lucky enough to be able to conflict out all the other top attorneys in town and pplay hard ball with him, where his previous wife was hit blindsided.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on June 02, 2009, 10:47:57 AM
Very good post Island, and I believe truth will prevail in the end.

thanks Rosie........yes the truth will win out and it may take yrs as the previous incident I wrote about with my ex, but Karma is a B!tch and he went from being the chairman of a bank, head of a fortune 500 company to a homeless drug addict and whino. He created his own hell and is living it on earth only to be followed up with when he meets his maker and has to explain his abuse of my son and more than likely my stepchildren, then he will really know the pain he has inflicted on others.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: jules3699 on June 02, 2009, 10:56:43 AM
Very good post Island, and I believe truth will prevail in the end.

thanks Rosie........yes the truth will win out and it may take yrs as the previous incident I wrote about with my ex, but Karma is a B!tch and he went from being the chairman of a bank, head of a fortune 500 company to a homeless drug addict and whino. He created his own hell and is living it on earth only to be followed up with when he meets his maker and has to explain his abuse of my son and more than likely my stepchildren, then he will really know the pain he has inflicted on others.

Good to see you too Island!  I am glad you got away from you ex and the horrible things he did to your family.  Sad there are ppl like that on this earth!   How is little Elijah doing?  He is so precious!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on June 02, 2009, 11:08:26 AM
Very good post Island, and I believe truth will prevail in the end.

thanks Rosie........yes the truth will win out and it may take yrs as the previous incident I wrote about with my ex, but Karma is a B!tch and he went from being the chairman of a bank, head of a fortune 500 company to a homeless drug addict and whino. He created his own hell and is living it on earth only to be followed up with when he meets his maker and has to explain his abuse of my son and more than likely my stepchildren, then he will really know the pain he has inflicted on others.

Good to see you too Island!  I am glad you got away from you ex and the horrible things he did to your family.  Sad there are ppl like that on this earth!   How is little Elijah doing?  He is so precious!!

Me too Jules, and I have been richly blessed ever since! Elijah is such a blessing himself, and is doing good (of course with micro preemies that can change in an instant), but last week he was doing so good my daughter got to bathe him and he reached up with his tiny hands and touched her face...........course the he peed on her!!!!! I told her your are going to have to get used to that. I swear I love that little angel so much and can't wait for him to come home God willing next month. I bought a house last week and he has a nice room waiting on him.......I think I will take a photo to him today to show him the view so he will be even more excited and heal quicker.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 02, 2009, 11:11:34 AM
Grama..leave it to you to get this party started! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


back to Crystal for one moment...
If Crystal is so worried about Ron Jr. being abused by ron and Misty....why did she leave him again?
Can anyone answer me that? she is so concerned via her attorney KP about the abuse that happened to him and Haleigh....wouldn't she want to stay in Satsuma until after the investigation or the ruling was over? be close at hand to make sure, keep a watchful eye out? let ron know that she is in this for the long haul to get her children in her custody? stay around to let ron know that she is watching him and that there better not be any abuse or she will know about it?
<<<<shaking my head>>>>




You know, I went back to the first of the case, and the first issue that came about was the absolute division of camps, and the vigil's that only one family would attend.
Something happened then..  Second, is when Geraldo came in, and.. now, don't misunderstand me, I don't think Geraldo was part of the change,  and I would imagine his producers would have talked to Crystal first. Possible, some one called the Geraldo show to get the interview.  Most of what he does, is a script in front of a teleprompter.  But, also well known to hit pressure points and nerves, which he did with Ron.  With Crystal, someone promoted her going into the abuse.  Someone in Satsuma is the one that did the Divide and Conquer bit. Someone did not want them to become a force together. Separated they would be weaker.  The someone or someones who divided them is someone to take a look at.....

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/090223095438_022309erich2.jpg)

The first mention of separate vigils I can find in my notes is from Monday, Feb. 23: http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=132058&provider=top

"Wright is one of the few people outside the media who is welcome at the camps of Haleigh's mom and dad. The parents are holding separate vigils each night about a half-mile apart.
At mom's campsite Monday night, CNN lit up the vigil, keeping Haleigh in the national spotlight with an appearance on Nancy Grace's show."

Geraldo's show covered the case the prior weekend.

Interesting timing, is all I can cay.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: jules3699 on June 02, 2009, 11:13:46 AM
Very good post Island, and I believe truth will prevail in the end.

thanks Rosie........yes the truth will win out and it may take yrs as the previous incident I wrote about with my ex, but Karma is a B!tch and he went from being the chairman of a bank, head of a fortune 500 company to a homeless drug addict and whino. He created his own hell and is living it on earth only to be followed up with when he meets his maker and has to explain his abuse of my son and more than likely my stepchildren, then he will really know the pain he has inflicted on others.

Good to see you too Island!  I am glad you got away from you ex and the horrible things he did to your family.  Sad there are ppl like that on this earth!   How is little Elijah doing?  He is so precious!!

Me too Jules, and I have been richly blessed ever since! Elijah is such a blessing himself, and is doing good (of course with micro preemies that can change in an instant), but last week he was doing so good my daughter got to bathe him and he reached up with his tiny hands and touched her face...........course the he peed on her!!!!! I told her your are going to have to get used to that. I swear I love that little angel so much and can't wait for him to come home God willing next month. I bought a house last week and he has a nice room waiting on him.......I think I will take a photo to him today to show him the view so he will be even more excited and heal quicker.



Now that is wonderful news!  I am still praying for him to come home to you soon and I am praying for Haleighs safe return home.  I just wish there would be some good news soon.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 02, 2009, 11:13:58 AM
Glad Elijah is doing good, and what a beautiful view from your home  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 02, 2009, 11:20:42 AM
The last line above should read:

Interesting timing, is all I can say.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 02, 2009, 11:22:37 AM
The last line above should read:

Interesting timing, is all I can say.


God bless Haleigh...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Spydee on June 02, 2009, 11:29:22 AM
Grama..leave it to you to get this party started! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


back to Crystal for one moment...
If Crystal is so worried about Ron Jr. being abused by ron and Misty....why did she leave him again?
Can anyone answer me that? she is so concerned via her attorney KP about the abuse that happened to him and Haleigh....wouldn't she want to stay in Satsuma until after the investigation or the ruling was over? be close at hand to make sure, keep a watchful eye out? let ron know that she is in this for the long haul to get her children in her custody? stay around to let ron know that she is watching him and that there better not be any abuse or she will know about it?
<<<<shaking my head>>>>




You know, I went back to the first of the case, and the first issue that came about was the absolute division of camps, and the vigil's that only one family would attend.
Something happened then..  Second, is when Geraldo came in, and.. now, don't misunderstand me, I don't think Geraldo was part of the change,  and I would imagine his producers would have talked to Crystal first. Possible, some one called the Geraldo show to get the interview.  Most of what he does, is a script in front of a teleprompter.  But, also well known to hit pressure points and nerves, which he did with Ron.  With Crystal, someone promoted her going into the abuse.  Someone in Satsuma is the one that did the Divide and Conquer bit. Someone did not want them to become a force together. Separated they would be weaker.  The someone or someones who divided them is someone to take a look  at.....

Exactly!  I've had help looking at this case from someone who has many years of experience investigating crimes against children and has incredible insight into the social and legal issues surrounding the families involved in those cases.  In fact this person enlisted my help several months ago help find information on this case.  From the beginning I was told to look at both sides of the family without any blinders.  But also, given the family dynamics to look for anyone playing both sides.  I don't remember exactly how (and for now I will call her the expert) the expert said it but was extremely curious about the lack of boundaries within the  families and thought it could be very possible that someone in the middle was playing both sides of the fence.  Meanwhile, months later I have hundreds of pages of documentation..............no real answers but lots of info. 

One name that popped up that I can find no data for:  During an interview with Jeraldo, Crystal mentioned the name Candice (Candace, Kandice), her cousin, was the one that saw Haleigh back handed by Ron.  Who is Candice?  Anyone know?       


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on June 02, 2009, 11:39:01 AM
Very good post Island, and I believe truth will prevail in the end.

thanks Rosie........yes the truth will win out and it may take yrs as the previous incident I wrote about with my ex, but Karma is a B!tch and he went from being the chairman of a bank, head of a fortune 500 company to a homeless drug addict and whino. He created his own hell and is living it on earth only to be followed up with when he meets his maker and has to explain his abuse of my son and more than likely my stepchildren, then he will really know the pain he has inflicted on others.

Good to see you too Island!  I am glad you got away from you ex and the horrible things he did to your family.  Sad there are ppl like that on this earth!   How is little Elijah doing?  He is so precious!!

Me too Jules, and I have been richly blessed ever since! Elijah is such a blessing himself, and is doing good (of course with micro preemies that can change in an instant), but last week he was doing so good my daughter got to bathe him and he reached up with his tiny hands and touched her face...........course the he peed on her!!!!! I told her your are going to have to get used to that. I swear I love that little angel so much and can't wait for him to come home God willing next month. I bought a house last week and he has a nice room waiting on him.......I think I will take a photo to him today to show him the view so he will be even more excited and heal quicker.



Now that is wonderful news!  I am still praying for him to come home to you soon and I am praying for Haleighs safe return home.  I just wish there would be some good news soon.

Thanks for your continued prayers, and the prayers for Haleigh, Adji and all the other missing children that NG continues to skip over every night. Each and every child deserve media time and I wish someone would set up a channel specifically for all the missing children (although it is incredibly sad, they wouldn't even have enough airtime in 2 weeks to show them all).


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 02, 2009, 11:39:20 AM
Spydee...interesting post...can you tell us more?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on June 02, 2009, 11:40:10 AM
Glad Elijah is doing good, and what a beautiful view from your home  ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks again and thank God for foreclosures ::MonkeyTongue:: or I wouldn't have been able to do it!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 02, 2009, 11:46:45 AM
The last line above should read:

Interesting timing, is all I can say.


God bless Haleigh...


(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing60.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 02, 2009, 12:14:10 PM
Spydee...interesting post...can you tell us more?
Yes, I would like to hear more also  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: MuffyBee on June 02, 2009, 12:25:47 PM
The new pic with Haleigh in her Dora swimsuit is adorable.  Brandi, the colors, designs and flowers frame her picture beautifully.  It brings the pic right out.  Thank you. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on June 02, 2009, 12:25:56 PM
The last line above should read:

Interesting timing, is all I can say.


God bless Haleigh...


(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing60.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh

HI Brandi,

I know you are very creative, have you thought about given Haleigh a guaduation cap and diploma?

Now I don't know if daddy will sue you, if you lift a little guaduation cap and paste it on her kindergarden photo.
I hope he won't sue. I saw a kindergarden guaduation photo of an adorable child on Nancy Graces show last night.
The word is Haleigh would be guaduating from Kindergarden this week, as it stand now, she may not be back in time.
But, where ever Haleigh Ann-Marie Cummings is maybe there is a chance she would see it. Thanks, if anyone can do you can.

Seahorse



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 02, 2009, 12:36:11 PM
Seahorse,

I understand your wanting to see Haleigh in her cap and gown.

I think I will wait to make a poster of her when we have a real picture of her wearing her cap and gown!

I believe she is still alive and she will graduate kindergarten at some time.

~Brandi


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on June 02, 2009, 12:49:53 PM
Grama..leave it to you to get this party started! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


back to Crystal for one moment...
If Crystal is so worried about Ron Jr. being abused by ron and Misty....why did she leave him again?
Can anyone answer me that? she is so concerned via her attorney KP about the abuse that happened to him and Haleigh....wouldn't she want to stay in Satsuma until after the investigation or the ruling was over? be close at hand to make sure, keep a watchful eye out? let ron know that she is in this for the long haul to get her children in her custody? stay around to let ron know that she is watching him and that there better not be any abuse or she will know about it?
<<<<shaking my head>>>>




You know, I went back to the first of the case, and the first issue that came about was the absolute division of camps, and the vigil's that only one family would attend.
Something happened then..  Second, is when Geraldo came in, and.. now, don't misunderstand me, I don't think Geraldo was part of the change,  and I would imagine his producers would have talked to Crystal first. Possible, some one called the Geraldo show to get the interview.  Most of what he does, is a script in front of a teleprompter.  But, also well known to hit pressure points and nerves, which he did with Ron.  With Crystal, someone promoted her going into the abuse.  Someone in Satsuma is the one that did the Divide and Conquer bit. Someone did not want them to become a force together. Separated they would be weaker.  The someone or someones who divided them is someone to take a look  at.....

Exactly!  I've had help looking at this case from someone who has many years of experience investigating crimes against children and has incredible insight into the social and legal issues surrounding the families involved in those cases.  In fact this person enlisted my help several months ago help find information on this case.  From the beginning I was told to look at both sides of the family without any blinders.  But also, given the family dynamics to look for anyone playing both sides.  I don't remember exactly how (and for now I will call her the expert) the expert said it but was extremely curious about the lack of boundaries within the  families and thought it could be very possible that someone in the middle was playing both sides of the fence.  Meanwhile, months later I have hundreds of pages of documentation..............no real answers but lots of info. 

One name that popped up that I can find no data for:  During an interview with Jeraldo, Crystal mentioned the name Candice (Candace, Kandice), her cousin, was the one that saw Haleigh back handed by Ron.  Who is Candice?  Anyone know?       

I haven't found Candice yet either, but I thought the interesting thing about that situation.. Ron and misty and the childen were at her house visiting, yet she is Crystal's cousin.  Something about the close relationships that continue.  Also, there was a mention on one of the Simon interviews of their checking out another relative named Roxanne and advised she was related to the Sheffields. Well, I went on a last name and found a Roxanne Sheffield in Tallahassee, but also found a Criminal Attorney who was also a Judge at one time, named Frank E. Sheffield.  In the one of the last interviews where Kim was threatening Cobra, she made mention of knowing an attorny in Tallahassee who could well make sure he (Cobra) lost his license, wondered if this could be the same Attorney.  This family has major extentions.  Yesterday, an issue of a son of Marie's that was not Johnny's, also I had found that Johnny's second wife Jennifer who goes by several last names, currently she is listed as Jacobs in Satsuma, in her myspace she goes by Townsend,  But, her full name is Jennifer Ann Ickerman, Jacobs, Sheffield, Townsend, Wampler.  Now, between marriages, she has a son. not really sure what his last name is.. But, found the boy on her myspace and he resides in Georgia.
I found the legal cases of her attempting to proven parentage on the boy.  Also found a legal case against Annette Sykes in St. John's county,  I need to reread it carefully before I post what I think it involves.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on June 02, 2009, 12:54:09 PM
Glad Elijah is doing good, and what a beautiful view from your home  ::MonkeyAngel::
Yes, it is beautiful, and dont forget to kiss Eli for me,
 Its true, some people let jealousy and self importance over rule common sense and want everything their way and will do anything to get it...then when things turn around and bite them back they yell fowl and unfair and slink into the background, I would still be leary if I was Crystal too, never know when someone like that could decide to cry to someone else and then they go try to do something to her, you never know when that might happen, it could even be years from nowm time has nothing to do with it, they will always try to make things bad for the other person, so yea its a no win situation.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on June 02, 2009, 01:01:25 PM
Glad Elijah is doing good, and what a beautiful view from your home  ::MonkeyAngel::
Yes, it is beautiful, and dont forget to kiss Eli for me,
 Its true, some people let jealousy and self importance over rule common sense and want everything their way and will do anything to get it...then when things turn around and bite them back they yell fowl and unfair and slink into the background, I would still be leary if I was Crystal too, never know when someone like that could decide to cry to someone else and then they go try to do something to her, you never know when that might happen, it could even be years from nowm time has nothing to do with it, they will always try to make things bad for the other person, so yea its a no win situation.......

Thanks and I will give him a kiss for you! In my ex's case, it wasn't so much about self importance, it was to punish her for leaving him.....if he had the kids, everyone would say "wow, she must have been a terrible mom" or "men don't usually get custody", they were strictly pawns used to punish her. I agree about Crystal needing to be leary, these controlling typed don't give up easy, it's only when everyone in their own family turns against them that they realize what they have done, and even then they blame everyone else for their demise. Sad any way you cut it, and who pais the ultimate price~ a precious child named Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on June 02, 2009, 01:07:09 PM
Glad Elijah is doing good, and what a beautiful view from your home  ::MonkeyAngel::
Yes, it is beautiful, and dont forget to kiss Eli for me,
 Its true, some people let jealousy and self importance over rule common sense and want everything their way and will do anything to get it...then when things turn around and bite them back they yell fowl and unfair and slink into the background, I would still be leary if I was Crystal too, never know when someone like that could decide to cry to someone else and then they go try to do something to her, you never know when that might happen, it could even be years from nowm time has nothing to do with it, they will always try to make things bad for the other person, so yea its a no win situation.......

Thanks and I will give him a kiss for you! In my ex's case, it wasn't so much about self importance, it was to punish her for leaving him.....if he had the kids, everyone would say "wow, she must have been a terrible mom" or "men don't usually get custody", they were strictly pawns used to punish her. I agree about Crystal needing to be leary, these controlling typed don't give up easy, it's only when everyone in their own family turns against them that they realize what they have done, and even then they blame everyone else for their demise. Sad any way you cut it, and who pais the ultimate price~ a precious child named Haleigh.
AMEN, couldnt have said it better myself, poor Haleigh,


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on June 02, 2009, 01:52:40 PM
Ronald Squires age 72 is listed as a relative for Donald Robert Squires, Florida on www.Peoplefinders.com
My guess is "Joe" Stephen Squires is Texas is a dud. IMO

Could Ronald Squires be a brother to Joe Stephen Squires....Uncle to Donald RObert Squires ?.....maybe where Haleighs dad Ronald got his name from?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on June 02, 2009, 01:55:09 PM
Grama..leave it to you to get this party started! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


back to Crystal for one moment...
If Crystal is so worried about Ron Jr. being abused by ron and Misty....why did she leave him again?
Can anyone answer me that? she is so concerned via her attorney KP about the abuse that happened to him and Haleigh....wouldn't she want to stay in Satsuma until after the investigation or the ruling was over? be close at hand to make sure, keep a watchful eye out? let ron know that she is in this for the long haul to get her children in her custody? stay around to let ron know that she is watching him and that there better not be any abuse or she will know about it?
<<<<shaking my head>>>>




You know, I went back to the first of the case, and the first issue that came about was the absolute division of camps, and the vigil's that only one family would attend.
Something happened then..  Second, is when Geraldo came in, and.. now, don't misunderstand me, I don't think Geraldo was part of the change,  and I would imagine his producers would have talked to Crystal first. Possible, some one called the Geraldo show to get the interview.  Most of what he does, is a script in front of a teleprompter.  But, also well known to hit pressure points and nerves, which he did with Ron.  With Crystal, someone promoted her going into the abuse.  Someone in Satsuma is the one that did the Divide and Conquer bit. Someone did not want them to become a force together. Separated they would be weaker.  The someone or someones who divided them is someone to take a look  at.....

Exactly!  I've had help looking at this case from someone who has many years of experience investigating crimes against children and has incredible insight into the social and legal issues surrounding the families involved in those cases.  In fact this person enlisted my help several months ago help find information on this case.  From the beginning I was told to look at both sides of the family without any blinders.  But also, given the family dynamics to look for anyone playing both sides.  I don't remember exactly how (and for now I will call her the expert) the expert said it but was extremely curious about the lack of boundaries within the  families and thought it could be very possible that someone in the middle was playing both sides of the fence.  Meanwhile, months later I have hundreds of pages of documentation..............no real answers but lots of info. 

One name that popped up that I can find no data for:  During an interview with Jeraldo, Crystal mentioned the name Candice (Candace, Kandice), her cousin, was the one that saw Haleigh back handed by Ron.  Who is Candice?  Anyone know?       

I haven't found Candice yet either, but I thought the interesting thing about that situation.. Ron and misty and the childen were at her house visiting, yet she is Crystal's cousin.  Something about the close relationships that continue.  Also, there was a mention on one of the Simon interviews of their checking out another relative named Roxanne and advised she was related to the Sheffields. Well, I went on a last name and found a Roxanne Sheffield in Tallahassee, but also found a Criminal Attorney who was also a Judge at one time, named Frank E. Sheffield.  In the one of the last interviews where Kim was threatening Cobra, she made mention of knowing an attorny in Tallahassee who could well make sure he (Cobra) lost his license, wondered if this could be the same Attorney.  This family has major extentions.  Yesterday, an issue of a son of Marie's that was not Johnny's, also I had found that Johnny's second wife Jennifer who goes by several last names, currently she is listed as Jacobs in Satsuma, in her myspace she goes by Townsend,  But, her full name is Jennifer Ann Ickerman, Jacobs, Sheffield, Townsend, Wampler.  Now, between marriages, she has a son. not really sure what his last name is.. But, found the boy on her myspace and he resides in Georgia.
I found the legal cases of her attempting to proven parentage on the boy.  Also found a legal case against Annette Sykes in St. John's county,  I need to reread it carefully before I post what I think it involves.

I think you may be onto something here..... ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on June 02, 2009, 02:00:17 PM
Grama..leave it to you to get this party started! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


back to Crystal for one moment...
If Crystal is so worried about Ron Jr. being abused by ron and Misty....why did she leave him again?
Can anyone answer me that? she is so concerned via her attorney KP about the abuse that happened to him and Haleigh....wouldn't she want to stay in Satsuma until after the investigation or the ruling was over? be close at hand to make sure, keep a watchful eye out? let ron know that she is in this for the long haul to get her children in her custody? stay around to let ron know that she is watching him and that there better not be any abuse or she will know about it?
<<<<shaking my head>>>>




You know, I went back to the first of the case, and the first issue that came about was the absolute division of camps, and the vigil's that only one family would attend.
Something happened then..  Second, is when Geraldo came in, and.. now, don't misunderstand me, I don't think Geraldo was part of the change,  and I would imagine his producers would have talked to Crystal first. Possible, some one called the Geraldo show to get the interview.  Most of what he does, is a script in front of a teleprompter.  But, also well known to hit pressure points and nerves, which he did with Ron.  With Crystal, someone promoted her going into the abuse.  Someone in Satsuma is the one that did the Divide and Conquer bit. Someone did not want them to become a force together. Separated they would be weaker.  The someone or someones who divided them is someone to take a look  at.....

Exactly!  I've had help looking at this case from someone who has many years of experience investigating crimes against children and has incredible insight into the social and legal issues surrounding the families involved in those cases.  In fact this person enlisted my help several months ago help find information on this case.  From the beginning I was told to look at both sides of the family without any blinders.  But also, given the family dynamics to look for anyone playing both sides.  I don't remember exactly how (and for now I will call her the expert) the expert said it but was extremely curious about the lack of boundaries within the  families and thought it could be very possible that someone in the middle was playing both sides of the fence.  Meanwhile, months later I have hundreds of pages of documentation..............no real answers but lots of info. 

One name that popped up that I can find no data for:  During an interview with Jeraldo, Crystal mentioned the name Candice (Candace, Kandice), her cousin, was the one that saw Haleigh back handed by Ron.  Who is Candice?  Anyone know?       


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on June 02, 2009, 02:01:31 PM
Grama..leave it to you to get this party started! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


back to Crystal for one moment...
If Crystal is so worried about Ron Jr. being abused by ron and Misty....why did she leave him again?
Can anyone answer me that? she is so concerned via her attorney KP about the abuse that happened to him and Haleigh....wouldn't she want to stay in Satsuma until after the investigation or the ruling was over? be close at hand to make sure, keep a watchful eye out? let ron know that she is in this for the long haul to get her children in her custody? stay around to let ron know that she is watching him and that there better not be any abuse or she will know about it?
<<<<shaking my head>>>>




You know, I went back to the first of the case, and the first issue that came about was the absolute division of camps, and the vigil's that only one family would attend.
Something happened then..  Second, is when Geraldo came in, and.. now, don't misunderstand me, I don't think Geraldo was part of the change,  and I would imagine his producers would have talked to Crystal first. Possible, some one called the Geraldo show to get the interview.  Most of what he does, is a script in front of a teleprompter.  But, also well known to hit pressure points and nerves, which he did with Ron.  With Crystal, someone promoted her going into the abuse.  Someone in Satsuma is the one that did the Divide and Conquer bit. Someone did not want them to become a force together. Separated they would be weaker.  The someone or someones who divided them is someone to take a look  at.....

Exactly!  I've had help looking at this case from someone who has many years of experience investigating crimes against children and has incredible insight into the social and legal issues surrounding the families involved in those cases.  In fact this person enlisted my help several months ago help find information on this case.  From the beginning I was told to look at both sides of the family without any blinders.  But also, given the family dynamics to look for anyone playing both sides.  I don't remember exactly how (and for now I will call her the expert) the expert said it but was extremely curious about the lack of boundaries within the  families and thought it could be very possible that someone in the middle was playing both sides of the fence.  Meanwhile, months later I have hundreds of pages of documentation..............no real answers but lots of info. 

One name that popped up that I can find no data for:  During an interview with Jeraldo, Crystal mentioned the name Candice (Candace, Kandice), her cousin, was the one that saw Haleigh back handed by Ron.  Who is Candice?  Anyone know?       

this is very interesting.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on June 02, 2009, 03:20:57 PM
Ronald Squires age 72 is listed as a relative for Donald Robert Squires, Florida on www.Peoplefinders.com
My guess is "Joe" Stephen Squires is Texas is a dud. IMO

Could Ronald Squires be a brother to Joe Stephen Squires....Uncle to Donald RObert Squires ?.....maybe where Haleighs dad Ronald got his name from?

The Squires surname has been in Putnam for years. I will try Ronald Squires, born 1937, Florida's, 1945 census, he should be listed and his brothers or siblings.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on June 02, 2009, 03:32:37 PM
Ronald Squires age 72 is listed as a relative for Donald Robert Squires, Florida on www.Peoplefinders.com
My guess is "Joe" Stephen Squires is Texas is a dud. IMO

Could Ronald Squires be a brother to Joe Stephen Squires....Uncle to Donald RObert Squires ?.....maybe where Haleighs dad Ronald got his name from?

The Squires surname has been in Putnam for years. I will try Ronald Squires, born 1937, Florida's, 1945 census, he should be listed and his brothers or siblings.

Good idea.....you are really good with this genealogy stuff....I have got to run some errands ....and then I will try to see if I can run accross something too.... ::MonkeyTongue:: 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on June 02, 2009, 05:08:35 PM
Grama..leave it to you to get this party started! ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


back to Crystal for one moment...
If Crystal is so worried about Ron Jr. being abused by ron and Misty....why did she leave him again?
Can anyone answer me that? she is so concerned via her attorney KP about the abuse that happened to him and Haleigh....wouldn't she want to stay in Satsuma until after the investigation or the ruling was over? be close at hand to make sure, keep a watchful eye out? let ron know that she is in this for the long haul to get her children in her custody? stay around to let ron know that she is watching him and that there better not be any abuse or she will know about it?
<<<<shaking my head>>>>




You know, I went back to the first of the case, and the first issue that came about was the absolute division of camps, and the vigil's that only one family would attend.
Something happened then..  Second, is when Geraldo came in, and.. now, don't misunderstand me, I don't think Geraldo was part of the change,  and I would imagine his producers would have talked to Crystal first. Possible, some one called the Geraldo show to get the interview.  Most of what he does, is a script in front of a teleprompter.  But, also well known to hit pressure points and nerves, which he did with Ron.  With Crystal, someone promoted her going into the abuse.  Someone in Satsuma is the one that did the Divide and Conquer bit. Someone did not want them to become a force together. Separated they would be weaker.  The someone or someones who divided them is someone to take a look  at.....

Exactly!  I've had help looking at this case from someone who has many years of experience investigating crimes against children and has incredible insight into the social and legal issues surrounding the families involved in those cases.  In fact this person enlisted my help several months ago help find information on this case.  From the beginning I was told to look at both sides of the family without any blinders.  But also, given the family dynamics to look for anyone playing both sides.  I don't remember exactly how (and for now I will call her the expert) the expert said it but was extremely curious about the lack of boundaries within the  families and thought it could be very possible that someone in the middle was playing both sides of the fence.  Meanwhile, months later I have hundreds of pages of documentation..............no real answers but lots of info. 

One name that popped up that I can find no data for:  During an interview with Jeraldo, Crystal mentioned the name Candice (Candace, Kandice), her cousin, was the one that saw Haleigh back handed by Ron.  Who is Candice?  Anyone know?       

Possibly:

♥We ♥ u Haleigh Bug♥ is really wishing everyone would just grow up and quit playing high school games.

http://www.myspace.com/phillipandcrystal


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 02, 2009, 05:32:56 PM
Possibly:

♥We ♥ u Haleigh Bug♥ is really wishing everyone would just grow up and quit playing high school games.

http://www.myspace.com/phillipandcrystal

Hi Heart.

Whose site is that? I am confuzzled.

TIA ;-)



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 02, 2009, 05:35:18 PM
Possibly:

♥We ♥ u Haleigh Bug♥ is really wishing everyone would just grow up and quit playing high school games.

http://www.myspace.com/phillipandcrystal

Hi Heart.

Whose site is that? I am confuzzled.

TIA ;-)

After looking closely at what I can see (I am not a member there) ...I see Crystal Sheffield is the center person in the picture there:

(http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/9/m_8b23ce86585f4162b0b15638fa284d83.jpg)

Still, I am confuzzled.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 02, 2009, 05:40:19 PM
I am thinking that blonde in the above picture may be Lisa.

Remember this picture?
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/45007511.jpg)

The caption said: Family friend Lisa Finley, standing, Crystal Sheffield, second left, the mother of Haleigh Cummings, and Teresa Neves, right 

Heck, I dunno. Not even sure why we are trying to identify her. LOL

It's hot here today.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: JNGA on June 02, 2009, 05:57:02 PM
Well she has more than one myspace and on this one you get to see who phil is.

http://www.myspace.com/philandcrys


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on June 02, 2009, 06:05:05 PM
    SQUIRES RONALD;
SQUIRES HAROLD E JR;
SQUIRES TERESA A;
SALTY TERESA A WRIGHT DAVID A;
WRIGHT MARGARET A 10/06/2004 DEED  ORANGE 20040639305 7647/310 2

SQUIRES TERESA A;
SQUIRES RONALD H
MORTGAGE ELECTRONIC REGISTRATION SYSTEMS INC 02/16/2005 SATISFACTION  OSCEOLA 2005040177 2705/1764 1
    Description: 
https://www.myfloridacounty.com/serv/MyFloridaCounty/ORI/Order

I don't know if this is anything or not ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on June 02, 2009, 06:08:00 PM
Possibly:

♥We ♥ u Haleigh Bug♥ is really wishing everyone would just grow up and quit playing high school games.

http://www.myspace.com/phillipandcrystal

Hi Heart.

Whose site is that? I am confuzzled.

TIA ;-)



Hi Brandi all.  I got confused myself.   I did a google on Candace +Satsuma search and found that page.  After I posted it I noticed that it said Crystal and not Candace.  However it does lead to some that we were not aware of that either knows or is familiar with Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on June 02, 2009, 06:15:17 PM

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php

Plaintiffs
SQUIRES ELISA
SQUIRES DONALD

 Defendants
SQUIRES BARBARA FKA
SQUIRES RONALD
SHIVER BARBARA 


Date Docket Description
1995-07-18 001.COMPLAINT 

1995-07-20 002.SUMMONS - SHERIFF - BARBARA SQUIRES SUMM RTD 

1995-07-20 >7-26-95 SVD 7-24-95 DUE 8-13-95 

1995-07-20 003.SUMMONS - SHERIFF - RONALD SQUIRES SUMM RTD 

1995-07-20 >7-26-95 SVD 7-24-95 DUE 8-13-95 

1995-08-10 004.ANSWER / RONALD SQUIRES AND BARBARA SQUIRES 

1995-10-19 005.NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION: 11/30/95 @ 2:00 PM 

1995-10-19 >ON RONALD SQUIRES; 11/30/95 @ 2:30 PM ON 

1995-10-19 >BARBARA SQUIRES 

1995-12-20 006.NOTICE OF VOLUNTARY DISMISSAL REC OR BK 689 

1995-12-20 >PG 203 




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on June 02, 2009, 06:16:19 PM

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php

Plaintiffs
PALATKA HEALTH CARE CENTER  Defendants
FINLEY LISA L 


Date Docket Description
1992-05-22 001.STATEMENT OF CLAIM $649.38 WITH ATTACHMENTS 

1992-05-22 >NOTICE TO APPEAR FOR PRETRIAL CONFERENCE ON 

1992-05-22 >JULY 9 1992 @ 9:30 A.M. $12.00 SS PUT CO 

1992-06-04 002.NOTICE RET SERV ON LISA FINLEY ON JUNE 1 1992 

1992-06-04 >PRETRIAL JUDGE MILLER: PL & DEFT 

1992-06-04 >PRESENT..ADMITTED.. JUDGMENT AGAINST DEFT IN 

1992-06-04 >THE AMOUNT OF $649.38 + $62.50 COST FOR A TOTAL 

1992-06-04 >OF $711.88 

1992-07-16 003.FINAL JUDGMENT AGAINST LISA L FINLEY SIGNED 

1992-07-16 >JULY 15 1992 COPY MAILED TO ALL - OR BK 698 PGS 

1992-07-16 >1633 & 1634 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 02, 2009, 06:24:01 PM
Possibly:

♥We ♥ u Haleigh Bug♥ is really wishing everyone would just grow up and quit playing high school games.

http://www.myspace.com/phillipandcrystal

Hi Heart.

Whose site is that? I am confuzzled.

TIA ;-)

After looking closely at what I can see (I am not a member there) ...I see Crystal Sheffield is the center person in the picture there:

(http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/9/m_8b23ce86585f4162b0b15638fa284d83.jpg)

Still, I am confuzzled.

on that page...there at the bottom left hand corner...a woman with a newborn baby...says Kim P...is that Kim P as in lawyer Kim P? and if so, what is it doing on that page...and mlee is on the right hand side of the page tee hee! at least her avatar is! take a peak...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 02, 2009, 06:25:06 PM
just went back there and the pictures had changed! does that happen on these sites? ^^^


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 02, 2009, 06:31:28 PM
just went back there and the pictures had changed! does that happen on these sites? ^^^

Yes. They are random and change with each page view.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on June 02, 2009, 06:34:03 PM

http://www.123people.com/ext/frm?ti=person%20finder&search_term=amanda%20lauramore&search_country=US&st=person%20finder&target_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sun-sentinel.com%2Fnews%2Flocal%2Fsouthflorida%2Fsfl-haleigh-cummings-pics%2C0%2C1791879.photogallery&section=weblink&wrt_id=217


Image 1 of 26
 
Where is Haleigh?
(REINHOLD MATAY, ASSOCIATED PRESS / February 12, 2009)
Amanda Lauramore comforts her cousin Crystal Sheffield who is the mother of the missing five-year-old girl, Haleigh Cummings who was last seen in Satsuma, Fla., Thursday, Feb. 12, 2009.



There is a very good who's who tree list here....

 http://www.123people.com/ext/frm?ti=person%20finder&search_term=amanda%20lauramore&search_country=US&st=person%20finder&target_url=http%3A%2F%2Flrd.yahooapis.com%2F_ylc%3DX3oDMTVndDdzNWpyBF9TAzIwMjMxNTI3MDIEYXBwaWQDc1k3Wlo2clYzNEhSZm5ZdGVmcmkzRUx4VG5makpERG5QOWVKV1NGSkJHcTJ1V1dFa0xVdm5IYnNBeUNyVkd5Y2REVElUX2tlBGNsaWVudANib3NzBHNlcnZpY2UDQk9TUwRzbGsDdGl0bGUEc3JjcHZpZANYNzhhN21LSWNycTNLMkl3LndKTk9RUEpXODV4a2tvbHBpOEFBNGhN%2FSIG%3D11lsq2r3p%2F**http%253A%2F%2Fwww.refugeesunleashed.net%2Fabout18620.html&section=weblink&wrt_id=227



wow that was a really long http: addy I guess I did that right?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on June 02, 2009, 06:38:37 PM
there is a very long record for Amanda...too long to post....check it out at...

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php

type in lauramore%


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on June 02, 2009, 06:42:10 PM
Well she has more than one myspace and on this one you get to see who phil is.

http://www.myspace.com/philandcrys

Is that Crystal?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: klaasend on June 02, 2009, 06:46:16 PM
Well she has more than one myspace and on this one you get to see who phil is.

http://www.myspace.com/philandcrys

Is that Crystal?

That is not Crystal, Haliegh's mom IMO. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 02, 2009, 06:48:14 PM
Well she has more than one myspace and on this one you get to see who phil is.

http://www.myspace.com/philandcrys

Is that Crystal?

the name before said Crystal Heuer or something like that...maybe this Crystal is a friend of Crystal Sheffield and that is why the first picture was of Crystal S. and 2 other friends? dunno..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 02, 2009, 06:59:34 PM
Well she has more than one myspace and on this one you get to see who phil is.

http://www.myspace.com/philandcrys

Is that Crystal?

That is not Crystal, Haliegh's mom IMO. 

Agreed. That is not Crystal Sheffield.

She is, however in the picture on this page: http://www.myspace.com/phillipandcrystal

(http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction-user.viewAlbums&friendID=184029002)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on June 02, 2009, 07:00:24 PM
Well she has more than one myspace and on this one you get to see who phil is.

http://www.myspace.com/philandcrys

Is that Crystal?

That is not Crystal, Haliegh's mom IMO. 

I didn't think that it looked like her...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on June 02, 2009, 07:16:10 PM
On that page above the picture it clearly says Crystal Heuer. I thought I'd throw that out there in case anyone missed it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on June 02, 2009, 07:17:03 PM
Well she has more than one myspace and on this one you get to see who phil is.

http://www.myspace.com/philandcrys

Is that Crystal?

the name before said Crystal Heuer or something like that...maybe this Crystal is a friend of Crystal Sheffield and that is why the first picture was of Crystal S. and 2 other friends? dunno..
Geez I type slow! You already posted the name LOL!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 02, 2009, 07:25:10 PM
Well she has more than one myspace and on this one you get to see who phil is.

http://www.myspace.com/philandcrys

Is that Crystal?

the name before said Crystal Heuer or something like that...maybe this Crystal is a friend of Crystal Sheffield and that is why the first picture was of Crystal S. and 2 other friends? dunno..
Geez I type slow! You already posted the name LOL!

xxx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on June 02, 2009, 07:27:26 PM
Well she has more than one myspace and on this one you get to see who phil is.

http://www.myspace.com/philandcrys

Is that Crystal?

the name before said Crystal Heuer or something like that...maybe this Crystal is a friend of Crystal Sheffield and that is why the first picture was of Crystal S. and 2 other friends? dunno..

There is a pic of Candace with Katie located here included in the scrolling pictures.


Feb 8 2009 5:50 PM

I miss u too! We need to go to Bourbon asap! I am so excited. We need to get together real soon.
I love u! ♥ Crys


Apr 5 2009 5:52 PM

Hey Honey! How r u doing? I am doing good! Just got done cleaning up the yard. Well I just thought I'd drop in and say hey.
"Loves" Crys


http://www.myspace.com/chevy_luver113


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 02, 2009, 07:52:00 PM
Well she has more than one myspace and on this one you get to see who phil is.

http://www.myspace.com/philandcrys

Is that Crystal?

That is not Crystal, Haliegh's mom IMO. 
Don't look like her to me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 02, 2009, 07:56:05 PM
Well she has more than one myspace and on this one you get to see who phil is.

http://www.myspace.com/philandcrys

Is that Crystal?

That is not Crystal, Haliegh's mom IMO. 
Don't look like her to me.

it's not ...xxx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on June 02, 2009, 08:04:16 PM
Has anyone ran across the name of Rothermil or Judd in your searches on Crystal's side of the family?

Could this possibly be who Ronald was working for before PDM?

Rothermel Fill Dirt
Owners of Rothermel Fill Dirt& Landclearing

(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/112/l_a60b043269a9c17ccafa9997d7cf87c4.jpg)

http://www.myspace.com/landclearing2

and

http://www.myspace.com/kristianddarren


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: klaasend on June 02, 2009, 08:09:41 PM
Don't miss the Dana Pretzer show tonight at 9pm ET:

The Dana Pretzer Show On Scared Monkeys Radio - Tuesday, June 2, 2009 - Special Guests: Mark Williams, Wendy Murphy and Robin Sax with “Nothing but the Sax”

Join Dana tonight on The Dana Pretzer Show live at 9 pm ET on Scared Monkeys radio.

Special Guests will include:

Mark Williams - News reporter who everyone normally sees on The Nancy Grace Show will be discussing the Casey/Caylee Anthony Case.

Wendy Murphy- Former DA and author will be talking about the Melissa Huckaby case and the murder of Sandra Cantu. Also the connection in this case to Child Porn.

Robin Sax - Los Angeles County Deputy District Attorney who specializes in prosecuting sex crimes against children. Read Robin’s new book, Predators and Child Molesters: What Every Parent Needs to Know to Keep Kids Safe. She will be discussing crimes in the news with her weekly segment, “Nothing But the Sax”.

www.scaredmonkeysradio.com


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 02, 2009, 08:12:50 PM
no idea Heart...could be....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on June 02, 2009, 08:32:57 PM
Don't miss the Dana Pretzer show tonight at 9pm ET:

The Dana Pretzer Show On Scared Monkeys Radio - Tuesday, June 2, 2009 - Special Guests: Mark Williams, Wendy Murphy and Robin Sax with “Nothing but the Sax”

Join Dana tonight on The Dana Pretzer Show live at 9 pm ET on Scared Monkeys radio.

Special Guests will include:

Mark Williams - News reporter who everyone normally sees on The Nancy Grace Show will be discussing the Casey/Caylee Anthony Case.

Wendy Murphy- Former DA and author will be talking about the Melissa Huckaby case and the murder of Sandra Cantu. Also the connection in this case to Child Porn.

Robin Sax - Los Angeles County Deputy District Attorney who specializes in prosecuting sex crimes against children. Read Robin’s new book, Predators and Child Molesters: What Every Parent Needs to Know to Keep Kids Safe. She will be discussing crimes in the news with her weekly segment, “Nothing But the Sax”.

www.scaredmonkeysradio.com


Thanks klaasend!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 02, 2009, 10:54:30 PM
*tap tap tap*

Is this thing on?  ;-)



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mamacrazy30 on June 02, 2009, 11:11:06 PM
well, i'm not much, but i'm here.....
oh, Haleigh, where are ya baby, why were you born into a family of jack holes? really?  and it would be one thing if they were actually still looking for her, or down on their knees every day asking god why.  of even if they had just fessed up to le and said 'yeah, we like to smoke pot, take pills, and drink, but damnit, find my freakin' daughter.'  nope, maybe chrystal with the hbug center, but even thats been touched speculation......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 02, 2009, 11:24:45 PM
well, i'm not much, but i'm here.....
oh, Haleigh, where are ya baby, why were you born into a family of jack holes? really?  and it would be one thing if they were actually still looking for her, or down on their knees every day asking god why.  of even if they had just fessed up to le and said 'yeah, we like to smoke pot, take pills, and drink, but damnit, find my freakin' daughter.'  nope, maybe chrystal with the hbug center, but even thats been touched speculation......

Well, mama your input is always welcomed.  It sure is sad how it all seems to have settled down, and nothing more is taking place, that we are hearing about.  If it wasn't for Simon, Art Harris and Cobra we would be in the dark completely.

But the Monkeys will not give up.  We will keep trying to find another little loophole to try and piece this together.....The holes are getting smaller and far and few between, but there has to be something somewhere that will give us a clue......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: my2cents on June 02, 2009, 11:39:18 PM
Ronald Squires age 72 is listed as a relative for Donald Robert Squires, Florida on www.Peoplefinders.com
My guess is "Joe" Stephen Squires is Texas is a dud. IMO

Could Ronald Squires be a brother to Joe Stephen Squires....Uncle to Donald RObert Squires ?.....maybe where Haleighs dad Ronald got his name from?

The Squires surname has been in Putnam for years. I will try Ronald Squires, born 1937, Florida's, 1945 census, he should be listed and his brothers or siblings.

http://www.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&qf=barbara&qmi=&qn=squires&qs=&trackit=74&focusfirst=1

Barbara J Squires 47

Crescent City, FL
Port Orange, FL
Ormond Beach, FL
Rochester, IN   


 Barbi J Squires
Ronald M Squires
Ron Squires
Barbie Squires 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mamacrazy30 on June 02, 2009, 11:40:14 PM
thank you GMonkey.  little Haleigh has been tossed out of the mainstream by not fault of her own.  not to sound snarkey, but ron, misty, crystal, and the whole lot could of said yep...we ALL like to party, say what your gonna' say and then please help us.  they didn't even go that far.  they just all lawyered up.  misty walked out of an le interview, and i guess it was ok with le?  who knows?  they won't talk either...who's looking for Haleigh?  not dad, not cbride, not le, maybe crys for a minuet, but then she started a 'center'.  just cobra, and (yes, i do know) who the heck is he?  why leave it to random bh to try and find your daughter.  ron's out of work now,  i have a GREAT idea as to how he can spend his FREE TIME.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 02, 2009, 11:47:29 PM
well, i'm not much, but i'm here.....
oh, Haleigh, where are ya baby, why were you born into a family of jack holes? really?  and it would be one thing if they were actually still looking for her, or down on their knees every day asking god why.  of even if they had just fessed up to le and said 'yeah, we like to smoke pot, take pills, and drink, but damnit, find my freakin' daughter.'  nope, maybe chrystal with the hbug center, but even thats been touched speculation......

Well, mama your input is always welcomed.  It sure is sad how it all seems to have settled down, and nothing more is taking place, that we are hearing about.  If it wasn't for Simon, Art Harris and Cobra we would be in the dark completely.

But the Monkeys will not give up. We will keep trying to find another little loophole to try and piece this together.....The holes are getting smaller and far and few between, but there has to be something somewhere that will give us a clue......

You got that right, grama!

We will keep Haleigh out there as long as it takes.

 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mamacrazy30 on June 02, 2009, 11:54:55 PM
sorry, no fault of her own..it's been a long day


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on June 03, 2009, 01:24:50 AM
God Bless Haleigh........Bring her home!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 03, 2009, 02:11:35 AM
God Bless Haleigh........Bring her home!

This post reminds me of the poster I made today. I think it is cute .. the message, that is...

I'll post it next ;-)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 03, 2009, 02:14:19 AM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing72.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: pink angel on June 03, 2009, 02:15:10 AM
Saying a prayer for Haleigh tonight. It's time for her to be found.
People that love her in such pain.

Too many little ones all alone out there. It's enough to make you cry.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Brandi on June 03, 2009, 02:25:25 AM
Saying a prayer for Haleigh tonight. It's time for her to be found.
People that love her in such pain.

Too many little ones all alone out there. It's enough to make you cry.

So far, has been very sad. indeed.

We have got to keep hoping she is out there though.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on June 03, 2009, 07:14:04 AM
Good Morning Monkeys and Guests!


Haleigh center moves to Baker County

By Kristin Chambers
Published: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 1:19 AM EDT
First white, then purple, now white again, the Satsuma "Haleighbug" building on U.S. 17, named for missing child Haleigh Cummings, stands vacant - at least in Putnam County.

Due to seizures, Crystal Sheffield, Haleigh's mother, can no longer drive from her home in Baker Coun-ty, Kim Picazio, Sheffield's lawyer, said.

"It's about the mother and the missing child, so we just decided to move it to her," Picazio said.

The Haleighbug Foundation became a registered nonprofit organization in early May, and will now be run out of Baker County on the family's hay farm.

*
"They are going to clean out the guest house, put a fresh coat of paint on it and make it into an office," Picazio said. "It's very therapeutic for Crystal to be active in the search for her daughter."

Donations are going to flyers, postage, T-shirts and various means to continue public awareness of the missing kindergartner.

"When Haleigh is found, we will donate remaining funds to other families with missing children who need funding," Picazio said.

The 5-year-old was reported missing from her Satsuma home at 3:27 a.m. Feb. 10. A massive investigation was conducted, involving ground searches, helicopters, boats, cadaver dogs and horseback units.

More than 4,000 leads have been received by law enforcement, Lt. Johnny Greenwood, spokesman for the Putnam County Sheriff's Office, said.

After almost four months, no trace of the child has been found.

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/06/03/news/news01.txt



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on June 03, 2009, 08:01:01 AM
OT:

Ex-police officer faces sex charges


http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/Local/newEAST05060209.htm


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 03, 2009, 08:09:57 AM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing72.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh

Brandi...this photo of Haleigh is my very favorite of all times! love it!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 03, 2009, 08:11:06 AM
Morning Heart!
Morning all monkey friends...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 03, 2009, 09:27:48 AM
Going back to the drawing board and start again from the 911 call..

God Bless Haleigh.. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 03, 2009, 09:40:42 AM
Good Morning, beautiful pic of Haleigh, Brandi  ::MonkeyAngel::  Good idea to move the Haleighbug Center to Crystal's house.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 03, 2009, 09:42:32 AM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on June 03, 2009, 09:56:13 AM
Good Morning, beautiful pic of Haleigh, Brandi  ::MonkeyAngel::  Good idea to move the Haleighbug Center to Crystal's house.

ITA, especially considering her health issues............and, being in Satsuma and KNOWING you can't see Butterbean except on specific days, seems like someone might have a heart and be a bit more sympathetic and let her visit more often. Very sad IMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on June 03, 2009, 10:01:24 AM
Morning Heart!
Morning all monkey friends...
I wonder how long it has been since  the building was repainted white?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 03, 2009, 10:13:25 AM
Good Morning, beautiful pic of Haleigh, Brandi  ::MonkeyAngel::  Good idea to move the Haleighbug Center to Crystal's house.

ITA, especially considering her health issues............and, being in Satsuma and KNOWING you can't see Butterbean except on specific days, seems like someone might have a heart and be a bit more sympathetic and let her visit more often. Very sad IMO.
That's a great point, why can't Ron let Crystal see Jr more often, under the circumstances? Just being mean and vindictive I guess.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on June 03, 2009, 10:21:04 AM
Good Morning, beautiful pic of Haleigh, Brandi  ::MonkeyAngel::  Good idea to move the Haleighbug Center to Crystal's house.

ITA, especially considering her health issues............and, being in Satsuma and KNOWING you can't see Butterbean except on specific days, seems like someone might have a heart and be a bit more sympathetic and let her visit more often. Very sad IMO.
That's a great point, why can't Ron let Crystal see Jr more often, under the circumstances? Just being mean and vindictive I guess.

I don't know, but it definitely show that side (just like my ex), exerting his control over her stillllllllll! Zero compassion IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on June 03, 2009, 10:44:11 AM
Has anyone saw in print that Crystal is not seeing Ron Jr. more than normal or that Ron is not allowing Crystal to see Ron Jr as much as she would like.

Just asking!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: MuffyBee on June 03, 2009, 10:56:29 AM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing72.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh

Brandi...this photo of Haleigh is my very favorite of all times! love it!!!

I love this one too!  I love the sentiment "send her home"!  My other favorite by Brandi is the one of Haleigh with the little bluebird on it.  Thank you again Brandi  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on June 03, 2009, 11:12:36 AM
Has anyone saw in print that Crystal is not seeing Ron Jr. more than normal or that Ron is not allowing Crystal to see Ron Jr as much as she would like.

Just asking!

Not in print, but I've talked to Crystal and Marie about this over a month ago.......I just remember it so well because it's such a shame ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on June 03, 2009, 11:42:15 AM
God Bless Haleigh........Bring her home!

Forgive me, this is off topic.

Who drove cousin, Joe Overstreet, to the Bus Station or Bus Stop the morning after Haleigh
vanished?  Does anyone know?  I find that curious. I never heard how he managed to leave, and took the Greyhound? back to Tenn. Who drove him to the bus station?  Joe slept in his clothes that night at the Croslins trailor, but never did I read how he mysteriously made his way to the bus stop. Who helped him get away? T.Y. & IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on June 03, 2009, 12:51:42 PM
God Bless Haleigh........Bring her home!

Forgive me, this is off topic.

Who drove cousin, Joe Overstreet, to the Bus Station or Bus Stop the morning after Haleigh
vanished?  Does anyone know?  I find that curious. I never heard how he managed to leave, and took the Greyhound? back to Tenn. Who drove him to the bus station?  Joe slept in his clothes that night at the Croslins trailor, but never did I read how he mysteriously made his way to the bus stop. Who helped him get away? T.Y. & IMO

I don't remember anything ever been reported on that, in fact I wasn't sure if he had a vehicle or not.  Which would have made it stranger if he did,  taking away and good reason to borrow that van...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 03, 2009, 12:58:19 PM
God Bless Haleigh........Bring her home!

Forgive me, this is off topic.

Who drove cousin, Joe Overstreet, to the Bus Station or Bus Stop the morning after Haleigh
vanished?  Does anyone know?  I find that curious. I never heard how he managed to leave, and took the Greyhound? back to Tenn. Who drove him to the bus station?  Joe slept in his clothes that night at the Croslins trailor, but never did I read how he mysteriously made his way to the bus stop. Who helped him get away? T.Y. & IMO

I don't remember anything ever been reported on that, in fact I wasn't sure if he had a vehicle or not.  Which would have made it stranger if he did,  taking away and good reason to borrow that van...
Was it ever posted just exactly when he arrived....and his reasons for arrival....how long was he in the area.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: jules3699 on June 03, 2009, 01:26:47 PM
Not sure if anyone else has seen or heard this:

Haleigh Cummings – BNN Radio Wrap Up May/31Posted on May 31st, 2009 by Simon Barrett in Society and CultureRead 1,668 times.I swear that these shows get more bizarre with every passing week. I have reached the stage where nothing surprises me any more. You just learn to roll with the punches!

I have to admit that I was a little concerned this morning, there really was not much hard news pouring out of Putnam County about the Haleigh Cummings case. Law Enforcement has been rather tight lipped. In fact so tight lipped that the only real news is from what we in the press (and there are only three organizations that are still on the story) can dredge up through the back door, and what the one Private Investigator looking at the case, William “Cobra” Staubs can unearth.

Sure we have our differences of opinion, but for the most part we are a pretty tight group. No one is looking for a headline, but everyone is looking for a solution. If we can resolve this case we will consider that we have done our job. In fact we have a bit of an unwritten rule, when this case does get solved, we are all going to get together.

My script was looking a tad thin as I went on air. Also a couple of guests were missing. Luckily they turned up, and we launched. Our panel this week was Cobra, Ms. Pickles, Denny Griffin, Jan Barrett, and Art Harris.

Last week the big shock was a call in, the bail bondsman that was on site when Cobra took down the accused pedophile William Snodgrass.

This week was even stranger. At around the 45 minute mark we had Kim Picazio call in. Kim Picazio is the attorney representing Haleigh Cummings biological mother Crystal Sheffield. I was surprised that she would call in, I was even more surprised that she would wish to stay around and answer questions. Some of which were fairly complex.

You can listen to the entire show here.  http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/05/31/Haleigh-Cummings


Simon Barrett

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 03, 2009, 01:33:40 PM
Thanks jules3699   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on June 03, 2009, 01:46:10 PM
God Bless Haleigh........Bring her home!

Forgive me, this is off topic.

Who drove cousin, Joe Overstreet, to the Bus Station or Bus Stop the morning after Haleigh
vanished?  Does anyone know?  I find that curious. I never heard how he managed to leave, and took the Greyhound? back to Tenn. Who drove him to the bus station?  Joe slept in his clothes that night at the Croslins trailor, but never did I read how he mysteriously made his way to the bus stop. Who helped him get away? T.Y. & IMO

I don't remember anything ever been reported on that, in fact I wasn't sure if he had a vehicle or not.  Which would have made it stranger if he did,  taking away and good reason to borrow that van...
Was it ever posted just exactly when he arrived....and his reasons for arrival....how long was he in the area.

I will scout and around and see if there any past news on Joe's transportation.

The law isn't allowing any information out to the public on Joes transportation. I never have remember a case where you
couldn't get leaks, doesn't anyone get drunk in that town? You would think after almost four months we would at least know if
Haleigh's backpack was found?  This is what I remember reading: Chelsea said ...Joe slept in his clothes the night H.C. went  missing, that's nice,...from sleeping in his clothes (at her trailer) to the Greyhound bus stop?  His didn't have a car if he came by bus, or did he come in a car and leave by bus? I try to keep an open mind.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on June 03, 2009, 02:16:14 PM
God Bless Haleigh........Bring her home!

Forgive me, this is off topic.

Who drove cousin, Joe Overstreet, to the Bus Station or Bus Stop the morning after Haleigh
vanished?  Does anyone know?  I find that curious. I never heard how he managed to leave, and took the Greyhound? back to Tenn. Who drove him to the bus station?  Joe slept in his clothes that night at the Croslins trailor, but never did I read how he mysteriously made his way to the bus stop. Who helped him get away? T.Y. & IMO

I don't remember anything ever been reported on that, in fact I wasn't sure if he had a vehicle or not.  Which would have made it stranger if he did,  taking away and good reason to borrow that van...
Was it ever posted just exactly when he arrived....and his reasons for arrival....how long was he in the area.



If I remember correctly, he was on probation for burglary in Tenn, and skipped state and went to florida, then returned and they grabbed him.. Think the boy is standing behind Bars......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: jules3699 on June 03, 2009, 03:21:13 PM
Thanks jules3699   ::MonkeyCool::

YW No Rose!! Did you get to listen to the radio show it was quit interesting!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 03, 2009, 03:58:59 PM
Thanks jules3699   ::MonkeyCool::

YW No Rose!! Did you get to listen to the radio show it was quit interesting!
Interesting.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on June 03, 2009, 04:37:31 PM
(http://www.firstcoastnews.com/genthumb.ashx?e=3&h=240&w=320&i=/assetpool/images/090316062628_haleigh_headquarters3.JPG)


Haleigh Cummings HQ Moving to Baker County

 Posted By: Dave Wax  Posted By: Patricia Jimenez      Created: 6/3/2009 11:32:51 AM    Updated: 6/3/2009 2:25:47 PM


http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=139193&catid=3


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Puzzler on June 03, 2009, 04:52:43 PM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing72.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh

Brandi,

I love this picture of Haleigh.  Your work is beautiful!   ::MonkeyCool:



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 03, 2009, 05:01:43 PM
We really don't know for sure if Ron is keeping Jr. from Crystal...for all we know, they could have worked out their differences and are getting along just fine...and all of us should be hoping that that is the case...
I still say, with the custody thing going on, and the threat of abuse to her child, why leave where that child is? She left him with ron before saying that he was abusive and now she is doing it again in a way....If this was the other way around...some would be on ron's case so badly...saying how he must now really care what happens to jr or else he would stick around yadda yadda yadda...
I do understand Crystal wanting to go home...but let's not blame it on her health problems that she is leaving ...she is leaving cause she is ready to go home....that does not mean that she is giving up on Haleigh, but there comes a time when people do have to return to their homes and their lives when they have a loved one missing...I just hope that she continues with the HBC at her home...but I am not betting on it happening...jmo...
If she is prone to seizures, she will have them in Baker County or in Satsuma...but I am sure that she will be more comfortable in her own home rather than where ever she has been staying...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on June 03, 2009, 05:43:00 PM
We really don't know for sure if Ron is keeping Jr. from Crystal...for all we know, they could have worked out their differences and are getting along just fine...and all of us should be hoping that that is the case...
I still say, with the custody thing going on, and the threat of abuse to her child, why leave where that child is? She left him with ron before saying that he was abusive and now she is doing it again in a way....If this was the other way around...some would be on ron's case so badly...saying how he must now really care what happens to jr or else he would stick around yadda yadda yadda...
I do understand Crystal wanting to go home...but let's not blame it on her health problems that she is leaving ...she is leaving cause she is ready to go home....that does not mean that she is giving up on Haleigh, but there comes a time when people do have to return to their homes and their lives when they have a loved one missing...I just hope that she continues with the HBC at her home...but I am not betting on it happening...jmo...
If she is prone to seizures, she will have them in Baker County or in Satsuma...but I am sure that she will be more comfortable in her own home rather than where ever she has been staying...
Well I guess she could steel Jr. and break the law and take him with her rather then wait for the DCF to finish and see if she can get him legally, you dont tell the courts what to do they tell you, but I guess she could just take him anyway, and YES it is about her health, she is sick.......whats so hard to understand about that, good thing she aint in a comma, people would say she is just sleeping and dont wanna get up.......Good Lord......she's sick and her siezures are brought on by stress, and I guess being right there in the same town where her son is and she isnt allowed to go get him and where she has to worry about getting harrassed and yelled at and whatever else might happen.........The HBC will contunue in Baker County, its already underway, and so she will have a place that she can get to right away and not have to worry about the ones in Satsuma that could possible do her harm!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 03, 2009, 05:49:52 PM
We really don't know for sure if Ron is keeping Jr. from Crystal...for all we know, they could have worked out their differences and are getting along just fine...and all of us should be hoping that that is the case...
I still say, with the custody thing going on, and the threat of abuse to her child, why leave where that child is? She left him with ron before saying that he was abusive and now she is doing it again in a way....If this was the other way around...some would be on ron's case so badly...saying how he must now really care what happens to jr or else he would stick around yadda yadda yadda...
I do understand Crystal wanting to go home...but let's not blame it on her health problems that she is leaving ...she is leaving cause she is ready to go home....that does not mean that she is giving up on Haleigh, but there comes a time when people do have to return to their homes and their lives when they have a loved one missing...I just hope that she continues with the HBC at her home...but I am not betting on it happening...jmo...
If she is prone to seizures, she will have them in Baker County or in Satsuma...but I am sure that she will be more comfortable in her own home rather than where ever she has been staying...
Well I guess she could steel Jr. and break the law and take him with her rather then wait for the DCF to finish and see if she can get him legally, you dont tell the courts what to do they tell you, but I guess she could just take him anyway, and YES it is about her health, she is sick.......whats so hard to understand about that, good thing she aint in a comma, people would say she is just sleeping and dont wanna get up.......Good Lord......she's sick and her siezures are brought on by stress, and I guess being right there in the same town where her son is and she isnt allowed to go get him and where she has to worry about getting harrassed and yelled at and whatever else might happen.........The HBC will contunue in Baker County, its already underway, and so she will have a place that she can get to right away and not have to worry about the ones in Satsuma that could possible do her harm!

You don't know that she is not allowed to see Jr...where  has it ever been stated that she doesn't see Jr ? does she try to get jr. more than every 2 weeks? you don't know...none of us do...
who is going to do her harm in Satsuma? she has been there for almost 4 months and no one has harmed her yet...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on June 03, 2009, 05:53:39 PM
We really don't know for sure if Ron is keeping Jr. from Crystal...for all we know, they could have worked out their differences and are getting along just fine...and all of us should be hoping that that is the case...
I still say, with the custody thing going on, and the threat of abuse to her child, why leave where that child is? She left him with ron before saying that he was abusive and now she is doing it again in a way....If this was the other way around...some would be on ron's case so badly...saying how he must now really care what happens to jr or else he would stick around yadda yadda yadda...
I do understand Crystal wanting to go home...but let's not blame it on her health problems that she is leaving ...she is leaving cause she is ready to go home....that does not mean that she is giving up on Haleigh, but there comes a time when people do have to return to their homes and their lives when they have a loved one missing...I just hope that she continues with the HBC at her home...but I am not betting on it happening...jmo...
If she is prone to seizures, she will have them in Baker County or in Satsuma...but I am sure that she will be more comfortable in her own home rather than where ever she has been staying...
Well I guess she could steel Jr. and break the law and take him with her rather then wait for the DCF to finish and see if she can get him legally, you dont tell the courts what to do they tell you, but I guess she could just take him anyway, and YES it is about her health, she is sick.......whats so hard to understand about that, good thing she aint in a comma, people would say she is just sleeping and dont wanna get up.......Good Lord......she's sick and her siezures are brought on by stress, and I guess being right there in the same town where her son is and she isnt allowed to go get him and where she has to worry about getting harrassed and yelled at and whatever else might happen.........The HBC will contunue in Baker County, its already underway, and so she will have a place that she can get to right away and not have to worry about the ones in Satsuma that could possible do her harm!

You don't know that she is not allowed to see Jr...where  has it ever been stated that she doesn't see Jr ? does she try to get jr. more than every 2 weeks? you don't know...none of us do...
who is going to do her harm in Satsuma? she has been there for almost 4 months and no one has harmed her yet...
I know what I was told, and yes she has asked for him more, just dont get to get him because she isnt allowed and the time she has been at the center in Satsuma she had Kim most of the time with her and Kim's bodygaurd, and other people, those people have  to get back to other things and cant stay there with her forever so yea , who knows if she was there all the time what would happen!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 03, 2009, 06:01:14 PM
doesn't Kim have a law practice and her own family back where she lives? doubt if she could stick around watching over Crystal like that...but if that is what you want to say,,,,fine with me...a body guard? you are kidding aren't you?

Anybody hear any news, real news about Haleigh lately? I wish we would hear something ....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on June 03, 2009, 06:04:06 PM
doesn't Kim have a law practice and her own family back where she lives? doubt if she could stick around watching over Crystal like that...but if that is what you want to say,,,,fine with me...a body guard? you are kidding aren't you?

Anybody hear any news, real news about Haleigh lately? I wish we would hear something ....
Thats what I just said was that they had to go back to their other lives................and YES, their was a bodygaurd there, I sat and talked to him for about 2 hours and he was with us sitting at the table at MeMa's so I dont think I dreamed him up!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 03, 2009, 06:06:28 PM
Putnam Jail Employees...Get Overhaul...

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=139214&catid=3


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on June 03, 2009, 06:06:38 PM
We really don't know for sure if Ron is keeping Jr. from Crystal...for all we know, they could have worked out their differences and are getting along just fine...and all of us should be hoping that that is the case...
I still say, with the custody thing going on, and the threat of abuse to her child, why leave where that child is? She left him with ron before saying that he was abusive and now she is doing it again in a way....If this was the other way around...some would be on ron's case so badly...saying how he must now really care what happens to jr or else he would stick around yadda yadda yadda...
I do understand Crystal wanting to go home...but let's not blame it on her health problems that she is leaving ...she is leaving cause she is ready to go home....that does not mean that she is giving up on Haleigh, but there comes a time when people do have to return to their homes and their lives when they have a loved one missing...I just hope that she continues with the HBC at her home...but I am not betting on it happening...jmo...
If she is prone to seizures, she will have them in Baker County or in Satsuma...but I am sure that she will be more comfortable in her own home rather than where ever she has been staying...
Well I guess she could steel Jr. and break the law and take him with her rather then wait for the DCF to finish and see if she can get him legally, you dont tell the courts what to do they tell you, but I guess she could just take him anyway, and YES it is about her health, she is sick.......whats so hard to understand about that, good thing she aint in a comma, people would say she is just sleeping and dont wanna get up.......Good Lord......she's sick and her siezures are brought on by stress, and I guess being right there in the same town where her son is and she isnt allowed to go get him and where she has to worry about getting harrassed and yelled at and whatever else might happen.........The HBC will contunue in Baker County, its already underway, and so she will have a place that she can get to right away and not have to worry about the ones in Satsuma that could possible do her harm!
We know about the HBC continuing in Baker County, it is in at least 2 newspapers.  We read an article that was in the Palatka News first thing this a.m..

Was the HBC in Satsuma closed or closing on your last visit there ?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 03, 2009, 06:18:44 PM
Heart...I sent you something....xxx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: maureen on June 03, 2009, 06:19:35 PM
Good evening monkeys!! been away since thursday and spent yesterday and today catching up, now I'm listening to the Simon Barrett show. Nothing new about Haleigh UGH


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on June 03, 2009, 06:23:21 PM
doesn't Kim have a law practice and her own family back where she lives? doubt if she could stick around watching over Crystal like that...but if that is what you want to say,,,,fine with me...a body guard? you are kidding aren't you?

Anybody hear any news, real news about Haleigh lately? I wish we would hear something ....

Yes, it would be good for LE to make some statement.  At least where they are on this case.  I wonder where DCF is on their investigation.

Rumors run a muck.

Where is HaLeigh?  Find HaLeigh?  We want to know that HaLeigh is alive and well!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on June 03, 2009, 06:24:42 PM
Heart...I sent you something....xxx
ok


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on June 03, 2009, 06:26:07 PM
Heart...I sent you something....xxx

Cookie, I don't believe that Crystal is, nor has she been in danger. The only thing that I have heard in that aspect, is a speculation on another site, stating they thought that Crystal had a fight with a very close male friend the night she was at the Center and it resulted in her being hurt.  Also, I found out the Center never was open at night, and there really wasn't any reason for her to be there that night.  If she suspected anyone was going to break in, then she could have called pd and ask for a frequent patrol on the area, and they would have checked the building once an hour. 

And, if she and ron had a better working relationship, I am sure that she would have little jr would be with her more.  The court sipulates that he has to let her see the kids every other weekend, but when parents are working together both parents benefit.  It's all in the working together as parents, and grandma's backing off a bit on both sides.  If the grandma's got along it would be so much better for Jr. and Little Haleigh when she comes home.  And this case would be resolved.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: jules3699 on June 03, 2009, 06:34:35 PM
Heart...I sent you something....xxx

Cookie, I don't believe that Crystal is, nor has she been in danger. The only thing that I have heard in that aspect, is a speculation on another site, stating they thought that Crystal had a fight with a very close male friend the night she was at the Center and it resulted in her being hurt.  Also, I found out the Center never was open at night, and there really wasn't any reason for her to be there that night.  If she suspected anyone was going to break in, then she could have called pd and ask for a frequent patrol on the area, and they would have checked the building once an hour. 

And, if she and ron had a better working relationship, I am sure that she would have little jr would be with her more.  The court sipulates that he has to let her see the kids every other weekend, but when parents are working together both parents benefit.  It's all in the working together as parents, and grandma's backing off a bit on both sides.  If the grandma's got along it would be so much better for Jr. and Little Haleigh when she comes home.  And this case would be resolved.

In a perfect world with people who will work together that would be great.  But when two are in a canoe and only one is rowing the boat just goes round and round...... ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 03, 2009, 06:40:22 PM
Hi Maureen...wish there was some news to tell you about...sigh...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on June 03, 2009, 06:40:31 PM
<snipped>In a perfect world with people who will work together that would be great.  But when two are in a canoe and only one is rowing the boat just goes round and round......




I agree Jules, it would be a good thing, but one cant point fingers at either unless one knows who the standoffish person is, and its not all up to Crystal to get alone, others are just as bad if not worse about not wanting to roll the boat!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 03, 2009, 06:43:01 PM
Heart...I sent you something....xxx

Cookie, I don't believe that Crystal is, nor has she been in danger. The only thing that I have heard in that aspect, is a speculation on another site, stating they thought that Crystal had a fight with a very close male friend the night she was at the Center and it resulted in her being hurt.  Also, I found out the Center never was open at night, and there really wasn't any reason for her to be there that night.  If she suspected anyone was going to break in, then she could have called pd and ask for a frequent patrol on the area, and they would have checked the building once an hour. 

And, if she and ron had a better working relationship, I am sure that she would have little jr would be with her more.  The court sipulates that he has to let her see the kids every other weekend, but when parents are working together both parents benefit.  It's all in the working together as parents, and grandma's backing off a bit on both sides.  If the grandma's got along it would be so much better for Jr. and Little Haleigh when she comes home.  And this case would be resolved.

In a perfect world with people who will work together that would be great.  But when two are in a canoe and only one is rowing the boat just goes round and round...... ::MonkeyConfused::

or if neither of them are rowing, then they are really in trouble... ::MonkeyWink::

mlee...you are correct in your post...according to sources who are in the know....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 03, 2009, 06:43:43 PM
<snipped>In a perfect world with people who will work together that would be great.  But when two are in a canoe and only one is rowing the boat just goes round and round......




I agree Jules, it would be a good thing, but one cant point fingers at either unless one knows who the standoffish person is, and its not all up to Crystal to get alone, others are just as bad if not worse about not wanting to roll the boat!!!

hope no one rolls the boat...that wouldn't be good!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on June 03, 2009, 06:45:36 PM
<snipped>In a perfect world with people who will work together that would be great.  But when two are in a canoe and only one is rowing the boat just goes round and round......




I agree Jules, it would be a good thing, but one cant point fingers at either unless one knows who the standoffish person is, and its not all up to Crystal to get alone, others are just as bad if not worse about not wanting to roll the boat!!!

hope no one rolls the boat...that wouldn't be good!
You cant make people do what they dont want to.....................


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 03, 2009, 06:49:08 PM
Heart...I sent you something....xxx

Cookie, I don't believe that Crystal is, nor has she been in danger. The only thing that I have heard in that aspect, is a speculation on another site, stating they thought that Crystal had a fight with a very close male friend the night she was at the Center and it resulted in her being hurt.  Also, I found out the Center never was open at night, and there really wasn't any reason for her to be there that night.  If she suspected anyone was going to break in, then she could have called pd and ask for a frequent patrol on the area, and they would have checked the building once an hour. 

And, if she and ron had a better working relationship, I am sure that she would have little jr would be with her more.  The court sipulates that he has to let her see the kids every other weekend, but when parents are working together both parents benefit.  It's all in the working together as parents, and grandma's backing off a bit on both sides.  If the grandma's got along it would be so much better for Jr. and Little Haleigh when she comes home.  And this case would be resolved.

In a perfect world with people who will work together that would be great.  But when two are in a canoe and only one is rowing the boat just goes round and round...... ::MonkeyConfused::
Exactly, and we know there is no such thing, nor will there ever be. It would be nice if the families got along for Jr's sake, he is the one suffering from all this nonsense. Selfishness abounds.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: jules3699 on June 03, 2009, 06:49:31 PM
<snipped>In a perfect world with people who will work together that would be great.  But when two are in a canoe and only one is rowing the boat just goes round and round......




I agree Jules, it would be a good thing, but one cant point fingers at either unless one knows who the standoffish person is, and its not all up to Crystal to get alone, others are just as bad if not worse about not wanting to roll the boat!!!

hope no one rolls the boat...that wouldn't be good!
You cant make people do what they dont want to.....................

Yes you are right and in that case I would just get out of the boat and walk back to shore....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 03, 2009, 06:51:17 PM
The case is cold, period. I'd like to know how much manpower is even being used on this case, that is a question, that should be answered.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 03, 2009, 06:53:06 PM
<snipped>In a perfect world with people who will work together that would be great.  But when two are in a canoe and only one is rowing the boat just goes round and round......




I agree Jules, it would be a good thing, but one cant point fingers at either unless one knows who the standoffish person is, and its not all up to Crystal to get alone, others are just as bad if not worse about not wanting to roll the boat!!!

hope no one rolls the boat...that wouldn't be good!
You cant make people do what they dont want to.....................

you didn't get it....roll the boat......like a funny....roll the boat instead of row the boat...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 03, 2009, 06:55:01 PM
The case is cold, period. I'd like to know how much manpower is even being used on this case, that is a question, that should be answered.

I think that it has been cold for a long time...for shame really...
I don't understand how someone can literally disappear and no one knows anything...and I know it happens all the time, but it still blows my mind!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 03, 2009, 06:56:22 PM
The case is cold, period. I'd like to know how much manpower is even being used on this case, that is a question, that should be answered.

I think that it has been cold for a long time...for shame really...
I don't understand how someone can literally disappear and no one knows anything...and I know it happens all the time, but it still blows my mind!
I can never understand, it's like a person vanishes into thin air, and of course that can't happen  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: jules3699 on June 03, 2009, 06:58:38 PM
The case is cold, period. I'd like to know how much manpower is even being used on this case, that is a question, that should be answered.

I think that it has been cold for a long time...for shame really...
I don't understand how someone can literally disappear and no one knows anything...and I know it happens all the time, but it still blows my mind!
I can never understand, it's like a person vanishes into thin air, and of course that can't happen  ::MonkeyNoNo::

exactly and usually it is the last person to be seen with that person.... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on June 03, 2009, 07:00:09 PM
The case is cold, period. I'd like to know how much manpower is even being used on this case, that is a question, that should be answered.

I think that it has been cold for a long time...for shame really...
I don't understand how someone can literally disappear and no one knows anything...and I know it happens all the time, but it still blows my mind!
I can never understand, it's like a person vanishes into thin air, and of course that can't happen  ::MonkeyNoNo::

exactly and usually it is the last person to be seen with that person.... ::MonkeyNoNo::
Yes, thats the way it is in most cases!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 03, 2009, 07:06:54 PM
The case is cold, period. I'd like to know how much manpower is even being used on this case, that is a question, that should be answered.

I think that it has been cold for a long time...for shame really...
I don't understand how someone can literally disappear and no one knows anything...and I know it happens all the time, but it still blows my mind!
I can never understand, it's like a person vanishes into thin air, and of course that can't happen  ::MonkeyNoNo::

exactly and usually it is the last person to be seen with that person.... ::MonkeyNoNo::
Yes, it is.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: cookie on June 03, 2009, 07:16:48 PM
The case is cold, period. I'd like to know how much manpower is even being used on this case, that is a question, that should be answered.

I think that it has been cold for a long time...for shame really...
I don't understand how someone can literally disappear and no one knows anything...and I know it happens all the time, but it still blows my mind!
I can never understand, it's like a person vanishes into thin air, and of course that can't happen  ::MonkeyNoNo::

exactly and usually it is the last person to be seen with that person.... ::MonkeyNoNo::
Yes, it is.


I happen to think that someone took Haleigh from her home that night who had been watching the house....don't know who...probably someone familiar with the family and their routines..? so, in my way of thinking, this is the person to be the last person that Haleigh would have been with...?
Misty is not telling the truth of what happened that night...I think that we all can agree on that one! I wish that she would just tell the darn truth!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on June 03, 2009, 07:21:18 PM
The case is cold, period. I'd like to know how much manpower is even being used on this case, that is a question, that should be answered.

I think that it has been cold for a long time...for shame really...
I don't understand how someone can literally disappear and no one knows anything...and I know it happens all the time, but it still blows my mind!
I can never understand, it's like a person vanishes into thin air, and of course that can't happen  ::MonkeyNoNo::

exactly and usually it is the last person to be seen with that person.... ::MonkeyNoNo::
Yes, it is.


I happen to think that someone took Haleigh from her home that night who had been watching the house....don't know who...probably someone familiar with the family and their routines..? so, in my way of thinking, this is the person to be the last person that Haleigh would have been with...?
Misty is not telling the truth of what happened that night...I think that we all can agree on that one! I wish that she would just tell the darn truth!
my version is kinda like that also, just a little different.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Heart on June 03, 2009, 07:23:51 PM
In other factual Putnam County news:

Woman Arrested, Fraudulently Called in Her Own Prescription


http://www.pcso.us/article.aspx?ArticleID=41

Fletcher - Brown Escape Review Made Public

http://www.pcso.us/article.aspx?ArticleID=42


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 03, 2009, 07:46:01 PM
Good Evening Monkey's.... ::MonkeyTongue::

I went over the 911 tape, The radio transmission tape , the interviews, inconsistancies + everything and its all leading back to Fibsty and Ron.... I am just wondering if Ron got married to Fibsty real fast because then the LE would have no reason to arrest him for anything at that time... keep those 2 seperate and maybe going to wheel and deal with him.. He got married for a reason.... He did not have to marry Fibsy to keep her close  ... A marriage of secrets, lies and
a purpose.. Who praises someone who was last with their child who is missing??
My God she can't even remember where the children slept let alone what the children were wearing... The children watching the video's then to she remember JR then fell a sleep.. Was Joe @ the home or was he not... The gun issue.. The back door...The blanket..The van...Are all Fibsty inconsistancies because she keeps changing her stories to evenually trying to get her story straight.. Ron claims he doesn't know anything because he was at WORK.. They can't even get their story straight who picked up Haleigh @ the bus stop... The timeline..The delay calling 911...Ronald Cummings: “they better bring f’ing something out here- because if I get my hands on that mother f’er I’m going to kill him…I don’t give a f%*)@# about prison…mother F’ing prison doesn’t scare me.  Ron denies it that he said he was 75% sure who took her... Hmm having alibies .. my daughter stolen, someone could of picked the lock...  In a desperate time when your daughter is missing who could even think of explainations ..Lies, Lies and more Lies..All the past tense words referring to Haleigh ..

Why did Fibsty have the upper hand when she called Ron while he was chatting with Cobra for him to get home.....Then he lawyers up... 4 months and Le and the FBI can't find who has Haleigh if she was with a family member. I am sorry to say Haleigh is no longer with us and her body is somewhere out there and needs to be found.. Ron and Fibsty have the answer where Haleigh is....JMO

God Bless Haleigh.. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: seahorse on June 03, 2009, 07:51:36 PM
http://criminalsearches.com/summary.aspx?input=name&fn=robert&ln=bock&city=&state=NC&zip=

The list of Overstreets, is on this list?

Scared Monkeys has a updated "who's who". I remember reading it a week or so ago that Cuz Joe may be out and about, I will review the "Who's" list.

 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 03, 2009, 07:53:44 PM
Jerseygirl, I could not agree more with your post.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on June 03, 2009, 07:56:43 PM
Good Evening Monkey's.... ::MonkeyTongue::

I went over the 911 tape, The radio transmission tape , the interviews, inconsistancies + everything and its all leading back to Fibsty and Ron.... I am just wondering if Ron got married to Fibsty real fast because then the LE would have no reason to arrest him for anything at that time... keep those 2 seperate and maybe going to wheel and deal with him.. He got married for a reason.... He did not have to marry Fibsy to keep her close  ... A marriage of secrets, lies and
a purpose.. Who praises someone who was last with their child who is missing??
My God she can't even remember where the children slept let alone what the children were wearing... The children watching the video's then to she remember JR then fell a sleep.. Was Joe @ the home or was he not... The gun issue.. The back door...The blanket..The van...Are all Fibsty inconsistancies because she keeps changing her stories to evenually trying to get her story straight.. Ron claims he doesn't know anything because he was at WORK.. They can't even get their story straight who picked up Haleigh @ the bus stop... The timeline..The delay calling 911...Ronald Cummings: “they better bring f’ing something out here- because if I get my hands on that mother f’er I’m going to kill him…I don’t give a f%*)@# about prison…mother F’ing prison doesn’t scare me.  Ron denies it that he said he was 75% sure who took her... Hmm having alibies .. my daughter stolen, someone could of picked the lock...  In a desperate time when your daughter is missing who could even think of explainations ..Lies, Lies and more Lies..All the past tense words referring to Haleigh ..

Why did Fibsty have the upper hand when she called Ron while he was chatting with Cobra for him to get home.....Then he lawyers up... 4 months and Le and the FBI can't find who has Haleigh if she was with a family member. I am sorry to say Haleigh is no longer with us and her body is somewhere out there and needs to be found.. Ron and Fibsty have the answer where Haleigh is....JMO

God Bless Haleigh.. ::MonkeyAngel::
very good post, jersey.......thats the one thing that let me know that things just were not right with what Ronald was saying to Cobra, after having the upper hand and telling her what to say in front of the camera's and her looking to him for every little thing and him walking away from her at the courthouse..it all shows who wears the pants in that family,  but then all of a sudden we are suppose to believe that she ordered Ronald away from Cobra that night and straight out told him that she wasnt gonna do the remake of that night.......Sorry....I dont buy it!!!!!!! its not right........Ronald didnt wanna do anything abd he didnt want Misty to do anything so he set it up like that to keep them both away from Cobra!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 03, 2009, 08:01:14 PM
Does anyone know if Ron is working, and if he is still living at grandma's house? Are Misty and Ron basically laying low?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: jules3699 on June 03, 2009, 08:04:52 PM
well if you all recall... Fibsty was the one that sold the cousin joe story.  But she was the last person to see Haleigh.  LE said they think that it is an inside job meaning they dont think that it was an abduction.  Yes they are tight liped.  Only because they have all the facts, just no evidence.  Someone knows exactly what happened and doesnt want to tell (fear of going to jail)and all are waiting for the truth to come out.  There is someone with that one piece of the puzzle. I so want Haleigh to be found safe but deep down I feel she is not with us.  I just hope that the person with that one shred of this puzzle will come forward and tell.  I dont think it will be that bad for that person if they realize it is the right thing to do.  I am sure LE would work with them to get the truth out.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 03, 2009, 08:05:25 PM
Does anyone know if Ron is working, and if he is still living at grandma's house? Are Misty and Ron basically laying low?

I don't know Rose but they are laying low... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 03, 2009, 08:08:27 PM
Does anyone know if Ron is working, and if he is still living at grandma's house? Are Misty and Ron basically laying low?

I don't know Rose but they are laying low... ::MonkeyTongue::
Was just wondering if grandma was paying for everything.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 03, 2009, 08:09:02 PM
well if you all recall... Fibsty was the one that sold the cousin joe story.  But she was the last person to see Haleigh.  LE said they think that it is an inside job meaning they dont think that it was an abduction.  Yes they are tight liped.  Only because they have all the facts, just no evidence.  Someone knows exactly what happened and doesnt want to tell (fear of going to jail)and all are waiting for the truth to come out.  There is someone with that one piece of the puzzle. I so want Haleigh to be found safe but deep down I feel she is not with us.  I just hope that the person with that one shred of this puzzle will come forward and tell.  I dont think it will be that bad for that person if they realize it is the right thing to do.  I am sure LE would work with them to get the truth out.

I hope so to Jules that someone with a heart and a love of an innocent child come forward and tell what they know...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 03, 2009, 08:10:30 PM
Does anyone know if Ron is working, and if he is still living at grandma's house? Are Misty and Ron basically laying low?

I don't know Rose but they are laying low... ::MonkeyTongue::
Was just wondering if grandma was paying for everything.

Wouldn't Ron be entitled to unemployment?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 03, 2009, 08:14:05 PM
I failed to mention after reviewing my notes...  ::MonkeyTongue::The only reason I see that they moved out of the home real fast because they thought it was bugged.....JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 03, 2009, 08:16:03 PM
Does anyone know if Ron is working, and if he is still living at grandma's house? Are Misty and Ron basically laying low?

I don't know Rose but they are laying low... ::MonkeyTongue::
Was just wondering if grandma was paying for everything.

Wouldn't Ron be entitled to unemployment?
I'm not sure how that works, if you have to be at a job for a period of time, but he could very well be collecting unemployment.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 03, 2009, 08:17:15 PM
well if you all recall... Fibsty was the one that sold the cousin joe story.  But she was the last person to see Haleigh.  LE said they think that it is an inside job meaning they dont think that it was an abduction.  Yes they are tight liped.  Only because they have all the facts, just no evidence.  Someone knows exactly what happened and doesnt want to tell (fear of going to jail)and all are waiting for the truth to come out.  There is someone with that one piece of the puzzle. I so want Haleigh to be found safe but deep down I feel she is not with us.  I just hope that the person with that one shred of this puzzle will come forward and tell.  I dont think it will be that bad for that person if they realize it is the right thing to do.  I am sure LE would work with them to get the truth out.

I hope so to Jules that someone with a heart and a love of an innocent child come forward and tell what they know...
I do also, but you would think that person would have done that by now. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: jules3699 on June 03, 2009, 08:17:58 PM
I failed to mention after reviewing my notes...  ::MonkeyTongue::The only reason I see that they moved out of the home real fast because they thought it was bugged.....JMO

well I dont know about any of you but if I had a child missing I WOULD WANT MY HOUSE BUGGED!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on June 03, 2009, 08:20:15 PM
Thanks JG for that post! On bberry so difficult to type out my exact sentiments to a T!!!!! I couln't agree more   
Good Evening Monkey's.... ::MonkeyTongue:: I went over the 911 tape, The radio transmission tape , the interviews, inconsistancies + everything and its all leading back to Fibsty and Ron.... I am just wondering if Ron got married to Fibsty real fast because then the LE would have no reason to arrest him for anything at that time... keep those 2 seperate and maybe going to wheel and deal with him.. He got married for a reason.... He did not have to marry Fibsy to keep her close ... A marriage of secrets, lies and a purpose.. Who praises someone who was last with their child who is missing?? My God she can't even remember where the children slept let alone what the children were wearing... The children watching the video's then to she remember JR then fell a sleep.. Was Joe @ the home or was he not... The gun issue.. The back door...The blanket..The van...Are all Fibsty inconsistancies because she keeps changing her stories to e


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: no rose colored glasses on June 03, 2009, 08:25:28 PM
I failed to mention after reviewing my notes...  ::MonkeyTongue::The only reason I see that they moved out of the home real fast because they thought it was bugged.....JMO

well I dont know about any of you but if I had a child missing I WOULD WANT MY HOUSE BUGGED!!!
Well, I know I would want to stay there, just in case whoever took Haleigh would drop her off, and not only that, would not want to walk away from the memories, just seems disgraceful to me to leave after such a short amount of time she had been missing.....that in itself, doesn't sit well with me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: jules3699 on June 03, 2009, 08:29:40 PM
I failed to mention after reviewing my notes...  ::MonkeyTongue::The only reason I see that they moved out of the home real fast because they thought it was bugged.....JMO

well I dont know about any of you but if I had a child missing I WOULD WANT MY HOUSE BUGGED!!!
Well, I know I would want to stay there, just in case whoever took Haleigh would drop her off, and not only that, would not want to walk away from the memories, just seems disgraceful to me to leave after such a short amount of time she had been missing.....that in itself, doesn't sit well with me.

you are so right sounds more like running away!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 03, 2009, 08:30:04 PM
I failed to mention after reviewing my notes...  ::MonkeyTongue::The only reason I see that they moved out of the home real fast because they thought it was bugged.....JMO

well I dont know about any of you but if I had a child missing I WOULD WANT MY HOUSE BUGGED!!!

Jules they do it alot especially if they have suspicions or needed some answers...
look @ the Caylee Anthony case... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: islandmonkey on June 03, 2009, 08:30:12 PM
I could be wrong but I thought u only got unemployment when u r laid off and not fired for cause. Maybe some other monkey knows the answer


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 03, 2009, 08:36:12 PM
I could be wrong but I thought u only got unemployment when u r laid off and not fired for cause. Maybe some other monkey knows the answer

I don't know.. In NJ if you got fired you can collect but their is 4-6weeks lost or waiting period.. Not that I ever got fired... ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on June 03, 2009, 08:36:50 PM
I could be wrong but I thought u only got unemployment when u r laid off and not fired for cause. Maybe some other monkey knows the answer
Funny you should ask, My friemd got fired from her job about two months ago and is getting unemplyment right now..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 03, 2009, 08:39:10 PM
I failed to mention after reviewing my notes...  ::MonkeyTongue::The only reason I see that they moved out of the home real fast because they thought it was bugged.....JMO

well I dont know about any of you but if I had a child missing I WOULD WANT MY HOUSE BUGGED!!!
Well, I know I would want to stay there, just in case whoever took Haleigh would drop her off, and not only that, would not want to walk away from the memories, just seems disgraceful to me to leave after such a short amount of time she had been missing.....that in itself, doesn't sit well with me.

The fact that they pulled out completely does not sit well with me either.  One would think that they would stay and pray that she would be returned.  Even though she is NOT there, the memories of her ARE.  Why walk away from HER MEMORIES....the only conclusion I have to that is that they WANTED TO BEGIN FORGETTING.

Especially the fact, that they didn't rent another place...THEY MOVED RIGHT IN WITH GR. GRAMA whether in her home or yard..SAME DIFFERENCE.

IF the unemployment rules are the same as Canada, you are penalized 6 weeks for quitting a job or getting fired.  Then if you have enough working credit hours, you would be able to collect.  Doesn't sound to me that Ron had accumunlated enough time to collect, but who knows.

I just wonder what type of lives Ron and Misty will be having say in about 3 yrs.  If their lives are based on the previews we have seen......GOD FORBID, but some people continue to have such a shattered life, that they have personally created themselves.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 03, 2009, 08:40:10 PM
20 more posts to go 4 a clean cage...... keep on posting  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Maven on June 03, 2009, 08:40:39 PM
Good Evening Monkey's.... ::MonkeyTongue::

I went over the 911 tape, The radio transmission tape , the interviews, inconsistancies + everything and its all leading back to Fibsty and Ron.... I am just wondering if Ron got married to Fibsty real fast because then the LE would have no reason to arrest him for anything at that time... keep those 2 seperate and maybe going to wheel and deal with him.. He got married for a reason.... He did not have to marry Fibsy to keep her close  ... A marriage of secrets, lies and
a purpose.. Who praises someone who was last with their child who is missing??
My God she can't even remember where the children slept let alone what the children were wearing... The children watching the video's then to she remember JR then fell a sleep.. Was Joe @ the home or was he not... The gun issue.. The back door...The blanket..The van...Are all Fibsty inconsistancies because she keeps changing her stories to evenually trying to get her story straight.. Ron claims he doesn't know anything because he was at WORK.. They can't even get their story straight who picked up Haleigh @ the bus stop... The timeline..The delay calling 911...Ronald Cummings: “they better bring f’ing something out here- because if I get my hands on that mother f’er I’m going to kill him…I don’t give a f%*)@# about prison…mother F’ing prison doesn’t scare me.  Ron denies it that he said he was 75% sure who took her... Hmm having alibies .. my daughter stolen, someone could of picked the lock...  In a desperate time when your daughter is missing who could even think of explainations ..Lies, Lies and more Lies..All the past tense words referring to Haleigh ..

Why did Fibsty have the upper hand when she called Ron while he was chatting with Cobra for him to get home.....Then he lawyers up... 4 months and Le and the FBI can't find who has Haleigh if she was with a family member. I am sorry to say Haleigh is no longer with us and her body is somewhere out there and needs to be found.. Ron and Fibsty have the answer where Haleigh is....JMO

God Bless Haleigh.. ::MonkeyAngel::

I've got lots to catch up on, haven't been able to properly read in about a week (summer vacation --- no school), just wanted to say excellent post JG!!  ::MonkeyDance::

and God Bless Haleigh, even tho I can't read here or elsewhere as often as usual she is still always in my thoughts and prayers.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 03, 2009, 08:44:58 PM
I failed to mention after reviewing my notes...  ::MonkeyTongue::The only reason I see that they moved out of the home real fast because they thought it was bugged.....JMO

well I dont know about any of you but if I had a child missing I WOULD WANT MY HOUSE BUGGED!!!
Well, I know I would want to stay there, just in case whoever took Haleigh would drop her off, and not only that, would not want to walk away from the memories, just seems disgraceful to me to leave after such a short amount of time she had been missing.....that in itself, doesn't sit well with me.

The fact that they pulled out completely does not sit well with me either.  One would think that they would stay and pray that she would be returned.  Even though she is NOT there, the memories of her ARE.  Why walk away from HER MEMORIES....the only conclusion I have to that is that they WANTED TO BEGIN FORGETTING.
Especially the fact, that they didn't rent another place...THEY MOVED RIGHT IN WITH GR. GRAMA whether in her home or yard..SAME DIFFERENCE.

IF the unemployment rules are the same as Canada, you are penalized 6 weeks for quitting a job or getting fired.  Then if you have enough working credit hours, you would be able to collect.  Doesn't sound to me that Ron had accumunlated enough time to collect, but who knows.

I just wonder what type of lives Ron and Misty will be having say in about 3 yrs.  If their lives are based on the previews we have seen......GOD FORBID, but some people continue to have such a shattered life, that they have personally created themselves.

Good Point Grama.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 03, 2009, 08:46:33 PM
Think a hint was put out to us Monkeys...to get moving...and get to the new cage.  Mods want an early night tonight...Let's give them a break....keep posting....

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 03, 2009, 08:48:30 PM
Let's do the Monkey Shuffle......

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on June 03, 2009, 08:48:38 PM
I love this picture of Haleigh!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on June 03, 2009, 08:50:17 PM
Also, I was just on Crystals my space and I noticed that Maries my space page has dissapeared!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 03, 2009, 08:50:36 PM
I love this picture of Haleigh!!!!

Beautiful picture of Haleigh....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: mlee on June 03, 2009, 08:51:17 PM
Good Evening Monkey's.... ::MonkeyTongue::

I went over the 911 tape, The radio transmission tape , the interviews, inconsistancies + everything and its all leading back to Fibsty and Ron.... I am just wondering if Ron got married to Fibsty real fast because then the LE would have no reason to arrest him for anything at that time... keep those 2 seperate and maybe going to wheel and deal with him.. He got married for a reason.... He did not have to marry Fibsy to keep her close  ... A marriage of secrets, lies and
a purpose.. Who praises someone who was last with their child who is missing??
My God she can't even remember where the children slept let alone what the children were wearing... The children watching the video's then to she remember JR then fell a sleep.. Was Joe @ the home or was he not... The gun issue.. The back door...The blanket..The van...Are all Fibsty inconsistancies because she keeps changing her stories to evenually trying to get her story straight.. Ron claims he doesn't know anything because he was at WORK.. They can't even get their story straight who picked up Haleigh @ the bus stop... The timeline..The delay calling 911...Ronald Cummings: “they better bring f’ing something out here- because if I get my hands on that mother f’er I’m going to kill him…I don’t give a f%*)@# about prison…mother F’ing prison doesn’t scare me.  Ron denies it that he said he was 75% sure who took her... Hmm having alibies .. my daughter stolen, someone could of picked the lock...  In a desperate time when your daughter is missing who could even think of explainations ..Lies, Lies and more Lies..All the past tense words referring to Haleigh ..

Why did Fibsty have the upper hand when she called Ron while he was chatting with Cobra for him to get home.....Then he lawyers up... 4 months and Le and the FBI can't find who has Haleigh if she was with a family member. I am sorry to say Haleigh is no longer with us and her body is somewhere out there and needs to be found.. Ron and Fibsty have the answer where Haleigh is....JMO

God Bless Haleigh.. ::MonkeyAngel::


Thats why I have been wondering if on that party binge they had that weekend, if she met someone new.. someone who may be involved in this that we don't know about.  It may well have been that testing ron's fury over the weekend issue, she did not want him to know if she had met someone..  We don't know where they went. first they say they went to parties, remember amber and misty almost went to blows... So, that mean't that it was more than just misty, greg, lindsay, and Nay Nay, amber was there. They also claimed they just drove back and forth between Satsuma and St. Augustine..  I can imagine that they did, they had 3 days to do that. But, where did they go in St. Augustine?  Who did they party with, private homes or night clubs.. There is more to this story than greg or Nay nay has told.  I guess the best way to describe it,  location, location, location.  Now,  were they outside and something happened to Haleigh..  Did the go to the lake and Haleigh fell in and drowned?  that is very possible, we are talking about an area that is very very dark.  I found a story that was in a paper, that came from the couple who lived in the house the year prior, They had a 9 year old son that was bothered by the darkness outside the trailer, and they had to put a nightlight in his room for him to sleep.  The man said the area at night was really dark and spooky, that someone could stand in the shadows in the trees and watch the house, and you would never know he was there. There is another person involved here.  I don't think he abducted Haleigh, but I believe something may have happened to Haleigh outside the house....   I still don't believe that Haleigh would have left the house with someone she didn't know and trust.  That would put Jr alone in the house asleep, maybe them running in and out making noise, but somebody was with Misty and Haleigh.  I also wondered, with cousin Joe being the same age as the rest, such as misty, didn't they take him to the parties too?  why leave him home?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 03, 2009, 08:54:38 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 03, 2009, 08:56:40 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on June 03, 2009, 08:57:53 PM
Yep it is really dark and spooky at that trailor which is one of the reasons I was so freaked out the night I was there and I learned from my mistake the first time so you can bet the last time I went I made sure it was light out when I went by there.............nothing but woods on one side of that road and at the end and behind it...........really really dark!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: jules3699 on June 03, 2009, 08:59:54 PM
Yep it is really dark and spooky at that trailor which is one of the reasons I was so freaked out the night I was there and I learned from my mistake the first time so you can bet the last time I went I made sure it was light out when I went by there.............nothing but woods on one side of that road and at the end and behind it...........really really dark!!!

aww that is so scary for an adult imagine how a child would feel living there!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 03, 2009, 09:00:43 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: GramaMonkey on June 03, 2009, 09:01:35 PM
Thats why I have been wondering if on that party binge they had that weekend, if she met someone new.. someone who may be involved in this that we don't know about.  It may well have been that testing ron's fury over the weekend issue, she did not want him to know if she had met someone..  We don't know where they went. first they say they went to parties, remember amber and misty almost went to blows... So, that mean't that it was more than just misty, greg, lindsay, and Nay Nay, amber was there. They also claimed they just drove back and forth between Satsuma and St. Augustine..  I can imagine that they did, they had 3 days to do that. But, where did they go in St. Augustine?  Who did they party with, private homes or night clubs.. There is more to this story than greg or Nay nay has told.  I guess the best way to describe it,  location, location, location.  Now,  were they outside and something happened to Haleigh..  Did the go to the lake and Haleigh fell in and drowned?  that is very possible, we are talking about an area that is very very dark.  I found a story that was in a paper, that came from the couple who lived in the house the year prior, They had a 9 year old son that was bothered by the darkness outside the trailer, and they had to put a nightlight in his room for him to sleep.  The man said the area at night was really dark and spooky, that someone could stand in the shadows in the trees and watch the house, and you would never know he was there. There is another person involved here.  I don't think he abducted Haleigh, but I believe something may have happened to Haleigh outside the house....   I still don't believe that Haleigh would have left the house with someone she didn't know and trust.  That would put Jr alone in the house asleep, maybe them running in and out making noise, but somebody was with Misty and Haleigh.  I also wondered, with cousin Joe being the same age as the rest, such as misty, didn't they take him to the parties too?  why leave him home?

mlee ~  Maybe Cousin Joe soon became the babysitter.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on June 03, 2009, 09:01:39 PM
Yep it is really dark and spooky at that trailor which is one of the reasons I was so freaked out the night I was there and I learned from my mistake the first time so you can bet the last time I went I made sure it was light out when I went by there.............nothing but woods on one side of that road and at the end and behind it...........really really dark!!!

aww that is so scary for an adult imagine how a child would feel living there!
it was just weird, I live in the woods, but this place is different somehow, I cant exsplain it, but it is spooky......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on June 03, 2009, 09:01:57 PM
Good point mlee... Cobra verified that Haleigh was picked up by Fibsty @ the bus stop in the van... Was Fibsty somewhere driving in the van or someone else when the van got scratched... Where were they driving?? Were the children in the van/ how did the van get back to Chelsea house? ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: higherhopes on June 03, 2009, 09:08:05 PM
Good point mlee... Cobra verified that Haleigh was picked up by Fibsty @ the bus stop in the van... Was Fibsty somewhere driving in the van or someone else when the van got scratched... Where were they driving?? Were the children in the van/ how did the van get back to Chelsea house? ::MonkeyTongue::
was the van still there when granny sykes came by later or was it already gone?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 03, 2009, 09:08:33 PM
100??  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #15
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 03, 2009, 09:08:48 PM
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