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GEOFFREY VON CROMVOIRT
Age: ?
School: ?
Job: Numerous Watersports Companies
       Possibly: RED SAIL
                     OCEAN FAITH
                     GO NATIVE

Known to have worked "on the beach"
Worked for a short time for the Visibilty Team
Was fired for "ADD behavior"
Went back to the watersports companies
      (Possibly the ferry driver for Red Sail at the Renaissance Hotel)

As per Michael Dompig:
GVC is annoying/"manic", puts himself in everyone's photos....

Lives at Papaya St. in Tanki Leendert
Only said to live with his father Wim.
Father is an ex-LE officer
Sister works for ALE

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/NYSusan/6185445e-1.jpg)
Possibly........................?

http://206.48.100.138/registry/registry_search.afp
VCB-Horeca Services
Papaya 14-D
Cancelled April 2006
Michael Paul Ramharakh

2nd link: What's with the loooonnnggg name for Wim?
Why use his home address as company address?

http://www.vcbsecurity.com/index_en.php
VCB ELECTRONIC SECURITY Website

DEEPAK:
I immediately faced forward. I looked at Satish with a look saying, what should I do. Satish said to me in dutch to keep driving. This all happened near the restaurant. I saw that at the "Lighthouse" two cars were parked. A green coloured jeep, with according to me four doors, open roof (soft top), that looked like a Suzuki Vitara and a white four door saloon I drove back down at a calm speed.

(saloon?...also, I can't find any 4dr Vitara's w/ soft roofs)
IMO...way too much detail...Did he know the driver of the vehicle?

1- Mysterious white car rental
2- Green Suzuki Jeep at lighthouse
3- IIRC from the transcripts, Deepak mentions a 4-door green vehicle at the dark street where he dropped off Joran & Natalee...near the Marriott?
4- Fisherman report a Suzuki on the beach.
5- The US tourist that met GVC months later did describe his vehicle as a Jeep....I cannot recall the color... Anyone?....

4dr-Suzuki Vitara
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/NYSusan/suzuki-4dr.jpg)
Forgot that I had this pic! GVC's residence.
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/NYSusan/GvCHome-1.jpg)

Regarding #5:

White Jeep.

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. -- With so many rumors and theories coming out of Aruba, including one that places Natalee Holloway and Gottfried Van Cromvoirt near each other the night Holloway disappeared, Holloway's parents spoke out on Tuesday to try to clarify the specifics.

Holloway's father, Dave Holloway, has hired an attorney to help the family try to separate fact from rumor after almost 11 months of trying to unravel the mystery of her disappearance.

Dave Holloway said facts are still rare, especially concerning 19-year-old Van Cromvoirt.

"Down there, they don't really tell you a lot," Holloway said. "Because they don't want it out. It's kind of frustrating."

Holloway does not know if Van Cromvoirt is being held because he is actually involved in Natalee's disappearance or because he just might have information about who was involved.

"We heard rumors (Tuesday) there may be some other arrests," Holloway said.

One theory about Van Cromvoirt's involvement comes from reports that Joran van der Sloot told police that as he, Natalee and the Kalpoe brothers drove away from Carlos and Charlie's the night she vanished, they pulled alongside another car and drove side-by-side for a distance with the people in the vehicles talking back and forth. The people in the second vehicle have never been identified.

Natalee's mother, Beth Twitty, said she is hearing another story.

"I believe also this new suspect is somehow linked to or has access to a boat. I'm hearing he is also an acquaintance of Stephen Croes," Twitty said.

Croes is a party boat disc jockey who was arrested early on in Natalee's case. He backed up van der Sloot's first story about dropping Natalee off at a Holiday Inn.

"I have a feeling all of these suspects are tied together in some way," Twitty said.

Dave Holloway said he does not know when he will officially hear more about Van Cromvoirt, but he said the judicial system's next step will tell him a lot.

"The tell-tale sign is how long they detain him and leave him in jail. If he's turned loose within the next eight days, you know there was not a whole lot to it," Holloway said.

In Aruba, police arrest a person when they suspect he or she could be guilty, then they start gathering evidence. At least six people have been arrested in Natalee Holloway's case, but then released because of a lack of evidence, NBC 13 reported.

Natalee's parents said that because of what they call "Aruba's swinging judicial door," they are not getting their hopes up about Van Cromvoirt yet.
http://www.nbc13.com/news/8812386/detail.html?rss=bir&psp=news

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. --
"I have a feeling all of these suspects are tied together in some way," Twitty said.

I agree 1000%........

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/NYSusan/SCandGVC.jpg)
Jerry Strawberry, Steve Croes, & GVC

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/NYSusan/GeoffreyFriends.jpg)
"Curly" & GVC 'working' in front of the Allegro/Raddison Hotels for a watersports company.
(Allegro Hotel was closed/under construction)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/NYSusan/wynguy2-1.jpg)
Pool guy near the Wyndham...Curly?

Didn't Mickey Johns & Abraham Jones work for a private security company for the Allegro/Radisson Hotels?
And Joran went to the Radisson on Monday with Guido...instead of tennis....

FROM: http://arubanboycott.blogspot.com/
 
<<The Red Sail is one of the ventures of the www.gonativearuba.com holding company who owns some stocks of the VCB Security Company, and Dompig is one of the board directors.
Dompig has the partial authority signiture to renew few of the short term security and night watchman contracts like inspecting the watercrafts on the beach and check/lockdown the incinerators for unauthorized dumpings.
Joran could have easy access to these watercrafts and the incineraters to conduct illegal activities. The Dutchies are covering for Joran because Joran has become an element of the Aruban Tourists Association System.
Joran can get free hotel room for the night, VIP Pass to the casino and freebies at C&C. Figure that out, Joran is controlling the island.>>
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<<Another way to connect GVC, Joran and Koen is the pleasure sex boats owned by the www.gonativearuba.com water sports company that GVC works for. GVC stole the company time and the intellectual properties to let Joran and Koen get into those sex pleasure boats to play and rape the local girls. Koen is holding the webcam and uploading the porn images to some incest porn web shops for profits.>>
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http://www.gonativearuba.com/ourpartners.php
Go Native.com

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/NYSusan/joranandfriends-1.jpg)
The ferry from Renaissance Island?
Crystal Casino & Marriott Renaissance Hotel in background.

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/NYSusan/MDompigOrbs.jpg)
Michael Dompig works/worked for one of the Watersports companies.
Here he is in front of the darkened/closed Allego w/ a friend wearing a
Palm Pleasure t-shirt...(Go Native)

http://i4.tinypic.com/2rha889.jpg  Disregard the Lorenzo Van Rijn? in the upper left.  We now know that is not Lorenzo.

http://www.hi5.com/friend/profile/displayProfile.do?userid=25443285

GVC Hi5 profile

Have any pics of Lorenzo?

Are those professional modelling photos of GVC?...
What's with the make-up  :roll:  LOL

I noticed the make-up also.  And I agree all the people are connected to the crime in some way.

That looks like the father.  Forehead, Nose and beard all match.  He probably took his glasses off for the picture.

Thanks for your input, SAN...'preciate it.

I really got on a roll, huh?

'night!

Florida... You have a picture of Lorenzo already, do you not?   You sent me a couple that confirmed what I had was in fact Lorenzo.  I was told not to show the image.  Perhaps I have you confused with someone else?  The person that sent me the images stated they were 'Florida' from SM.

I thought you meant you had OTHER pics of Lorenzo.....
The ones that I have posted are just not that clear.

OK.  You have the clear image that I have as well.

is the picture you are talking about the "surveillance" picture?...

Hi Kathy.....

Yes, that pic... Art Wood's surveillance photo from June 2005
and mine from August 2005...the one of him in his purple/white van,
his rave ranch & house.

I was hoping there were others..... :?

thanks Florida...I read here on a regular basis but seldom post...it takes me forever just to read without taking the time to post...
did you post those pictures on Faith's site?

Yes, on a few sites....

I believe the true mystery to Lorenzo lies with his deceased father.
After all, he was best friends with Paulus & his demons were his demise.

Florida - I hadn't heard that the Van Rijn father was friends with PVDS.  Do you have any backup to that?  Very interresting indeed.

I dunno...Just something I always knew.....

Paulus was "surveyed" going to Astrid van Rijn's house after Natalee's disappearance.....

In the beginning, it was said years ago, a small child drowned at the van Rijn's pool....or that possible Paul VR was "haunted" by this vision......???
You know how stories get confused......

Either way, I believe the drugs & hallucinations were his downfall.

The goal is to find out whether or not GVC had any further contact with Natalee than what is publicly known.  

First, was GVC in a vehicle that followed J2K from Carlos & Charlies?

There have been numerous accounts that allude to a second and perhaps third vehicle, following closely behind J2K after leaving CnC's.

One alleged witness claimed to see a second vehicle along side J2K exchanging some sort of dialogue as the proceeded to the North side of the island and presumably Arashi Beach.

Secondly, could GVC be the person referred to as a 'local' in Elizabeth Cain's affidavit seen here http://i7.tinypic.com/24fh2sn.jpg ?

On a side note, anyone know if GVC is an associate of Boeti Naar, perhaps via Go Native / Red Sail?

Florida, I don't recall, did we find a clear link between Paul Brough and Go Native the holding company with the subsidiaries Red Sail and VCB?  Email me if you can be a bit more civil this time around.  JK, I have noted a subtle change.  I respect that and appreciate your input as do many others here I am certain.  Thank you for that!

The answers to the GVC questions can IMO only be answered by the MB students.

I would think boeti is an "associate" to everyone...LOL

Do not recall a link to Go Native, etc. and Brough
Possibly Palm Island

Yes, there is a not-so-subtle change..."I just know what I know"

I've always known that Paulus & Paul van Rijn were "best friends"

Either by rumor or fact, a child drowned in Paul van Rijn's pool
And Paul carried this burden

He was "obseesed" with this....

His suicide was either by drugs or remorse

When they say PAULUS visited Astrid...
it could have been as a friend or other.....

Wow, I'd never heard about the child drowning in their pool. Can you tell us anymore?  I wonder if we can find anything to substantiate that story.

It's a long, involved story told by a friend of Paul van Rijn's....

But, like you said: "It has nothing to do with this case."

I DID??????

Whoa!!!!!!!  Did you just say that Paulus was actually SEEN going to the van Rijn house?   That is HUGE!!!! There is absolutely no reason for that to happen with all the confusion at the time.  We need details about this.

Lala's  check out the LCD,  the discussion of the picture of the claimed
PVDS, Lorenzo and Astrid is being discussed.

The only proof that this is indeed the three,  is the word of Art Woods who gave the photo to a poster here who was there on vacation and met with him.  I believe that to be Florida aka NY Susan.....

And NO I am not bashing,  so please don't go there.

MsDarthVada,

I thought on forums we do not refer to others by their "other names"
It's just kinda a respect/privacy thing.....Right?

Art Woods never identified the man in the pic as Paulus....But, now I believe it just could be him.

Thats all news to me.  Thats how the picture was presented when it originally surfaced.  I didn't know it wasn't common knowledge.  


My apologies

florida

FYI

When anyone quotes a poster,and pictures are within that quote (for example, the machete & knife pics)  When I was sticking up for your statement in the LCD,  I quoted it,(pressed that little quote button)  It showed NYSUSAN after the photobucket words.  Anyone can see that.  

No one is denying your hard work on this case..... I give you kudos for doing all you have done.   :D

Cut me a little slack please?