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Hi Monkeys. I am here

Cute puppies Boo!

Doing well, thanks. 
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Deciding if I want to venture out for a drink tonight....

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JSM, we will pray for them both together.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks Fanny. I don't know what is going on, but it has been a long while since they got here. Hopefully everything is okay. The lady walks way faster than the husband, but today he had the grandbaby. He was letting the baby talk to Josef. I hope the baby is okay. I am about to go be Gladys Kravitz and check and see if the ambulance has left.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Hi Monkey with Class. Venture out, just have a designated driver.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Those pups sure have a lot more fun all day than I do. ::MonkeyEek:: What a nice place for the animals.

Great advice except its only 200 ft away.  I wil prob just walk.  If I have more than a couple, its downhill.  lol

You know, if Cindy and George have all those buckets of money coming in like that poster Mei said, you'd hope that they would do something good with it. Instead they are buying fishing boats and campaigning for KC to make more money. What a sad life they lead, it's all about money to them. God isn't going to look too kindly on this. Just wait and see.

Just make sure you don't roll all the way down the hill. You could knock you pipe out of your mouth.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyDance:: Just popping in to say hi to all you Sloggers, I mean sad bloggers! Hi Sloggers!  ::MonkeyDevil::

Gosh you are so lucky. Have fun!

We all know that money does not buy happiness. It can just make us a lot more comfortable. I have both had lots of money, and have had little money at times. Some people do think that they have to have everything under the sun to be happy. One look at the Anthony's home and you could see that there was already excesses of everything! Not just one of things, but multiples of things. I am a pack rat of sorts, but I don't have dozens of everything. It is obvious that the Ants are very materialistic. The more stuff the better. I am sure they are trying to buy some peace of mind, and it ain't gonna happen. No matter how much money they scam, or dump on Casey's defense, they are going to have a miserable existance. JMO

Sad and we don't understand, Cindy is a real gem, isn't she  ::MonkeyRoll::

Hi, QM!! We just keep sloggin' along.   ::MonkeyDevil::

(http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww161/4Siamese/Waving.gif)  Hi guys.  I guess we didn't get any documents today, did we?  I've been gone all day....

I thought I just saw Monken in here?  Monken if you are still here I answered you in Musings with photos.  (If thats the wrong place and needs to be moved to the decorating thread I am sorry admin, she asked me in Musings.) 

Monken was here earlier today. Haven't seen her tonight.

I agree.  I've been in both arenas - very well off - and very poor.   Money buys you nothing but temporary happiness.
The A's are bankrupt.  Morally bankrupt.   Mentally bankrupt.   Monetary bankrupt.  Spiritually bankrupt.   It all equals a miserable existence.   JMO. 

You didn't miss a thing, Sassy.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

::MonkeyWaa:: Thanks, I will have to sit and wait for her return.  ::MonkeyWaa::  My bottom is going to go numb.......

Teach a man to fish and he will eat for life, give a girl Chanel and Jimmy Choos and she will be yours forever!!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Thanks Fanny.

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OT:  Fanny Mae:  i saw your recipe for butterut pound cake, and listed two places where you can get the butternut extract. But, I read the receipe, no baking powder or baking soda?  I want to make this cake for Sunday.  Thanks.  Sorry about the off topic, it will never happen again.

No, neither. Plain flour too. It will make a very dense, moist cake. Did you list the places on Monkens thread? I am sure you will enjoy it.

Fannie Mae:  Yes, on Monkens Cake thread.  And thanks for the recipes!

Back to on topic:  In the petition, one writer said:  You wouldn't have the Manson family on to rant and rave, why give these people air time (actually not word for word, but that is the idea of it).

Night monkeys, I'm off to bed.

Night monkeys. JSM is going to bed, been a really bad day today. I hope we get document dumps this coming week and I cannot wait for LP's deposition. Hugs JSM  ::MonkeyAngel::

I hope you are feeling well my mama times two. JSM worries about you.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I left you a message on Monken's thread.

JSM, I am sorry you had a bad day a work today. Tomorrow will be better.

Good Night my friend, and hug Josef as much as he will let you. See you tomorrow. Are you trying to skate tomorrow??

Night Boo. Hope all you Michiganders stay out of the bad weather tonight.

My eyes are droping tonight, and my body definitely need some rest. Although this hasn't been a busy day news wise we have still come together in love and support for Caylee. We will do it tomorrow, and tomorrow, and the day after tomorrow just as we always have. I am proud of us, the Sacred Monkey as Boo or Teyve likes to call us. There are other bloggers on other threads that love Caylee too. They stand with all of us. It would be a wonderful thing to have a group picture of all the bloggers that stand for Justice and will be here for her. It would be a tremendous shock to Cindy.Many of us has suffered hardships and personal hurts that have come by being so dedicated but still we we stay. I think it would be shocking to Sindy how many of us there are and how dedicated we are. We are far from sad bloggers. It is too bad that Cindy didn't have such a confrontational attitude toward every good gesture. If she could only been begging for Caylee and giving any evidence and deeply distraught, we would have be rally around her to help her through. If she were broken hearted that her Caylee was gone, but wanted whoever did this to face the consequences and determinded to see it done, even if it was a daughter she loved, we would be at her side helping her. We bloggers are not mean, cold people. We have just been treated that way. There's an old saying that you cannot hug a porcupine. It is not in our nature. Cindy has not thanked the right people that did the searching, supporting, and praying. Cindy doesn't have a clue. Sad bloggers. Not even close. JMO

Good night ya'll. God bless.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Well, lets rethink this...............maybe not forever, but at least until they can't afford to give you what you want.  LOL

I moved 15 posts of O/T to:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=569.440
Our Four-legged Friends

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/05/how-do-you-report-a-scam-foundation-caylee-anthony-foundation/

How Do You Report A Scam Foundation: Caylee Anthony Foundation
May 16, 2009 by: Express
128869463257381031-1An Investigation of Fraud in Nonprofit Organizations:

Nonprofit organizations must convince the public that they have the right systems and policies in place to ensure that contributions and other resources are being prudently maintained, managed, and deployed. It is not necessarily about money but rather about the fiduciary responsibility to use donated funds in the manner intended.Downloaded from http://nvs.sagepub.com Linke to Report:  http://nvs.sagepub.com/cgi/reprint/36/4/676

CLICK ON BANNER BELOW FOR SCAM/FRAUD INFO  AND FORUMS:

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How Do You Report Suspected Tax Fraud Activity?
 
If you suspect or know of an individual or company that is not complying with the tax laws, you may report this activity by completing Form 3949-A or http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f3949a.pdf. You may fill out Form 3949-A online, print it and mail it to:

        nternal Revenue Service
        Fresno, CA 93888

If you do not wish to use Form 3949-A, you may send a letter to the address above. Please include the following information, if available:

    *
      Name and address of the person you are reporting
    *
      The taxpayer identification number (social security number for an individual or employer identification number for a business)
    *
      A brief description of the alleged violation, including how you became aware of or obtained the information
    *
      The years involved
    *
      The estimated dollar amount of any unreported income
    *
      Your name, address and daytime telephone number

Although you are not required to identify yourself, it is helpful to do so. Your identity can be kept confidential.

Frequently Asked Questions - 1.13 IRS Procedures: Reporting Fraud  source link:  http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=106778,00.html

CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY FOUNDATION ADDRESS:

www.cayleemarieanthonyfoundation.net

Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation, Inc®. 4937 Hopespring Dr. Orlando, Florida, 32829

This is a registered 501(c)(3), non-profit is pending. Donations will be tax deductible.
Here is Cindy Anthony’s (the well known public liar) e-mail address:      cindy@dgator.com or
Fake Caylee Foundation cma@cayleemarieanthonyfoundation.net 


KID FINDERS NETWORK:

 Kid Finders Network, Inc P.O. Box 212306
West Palm Beach, FL
33421-2306

 Note:  I’m sure there is much more info out there to report Scam Foundation so if you come across any pertinent info that you would like me to post here please e-mail me at express@cayleedaily.com Thanks!

 ::MonkeyAngel:: 

NUT44x4...I love your truck! very festive ::MonkeyCool::

Good morning monkeys and guests

He probably would give him air time if he could...

Good Morning thanks for the article Trimm  ::MonkeyCool::

This is long.But it's interesting.
http://swartzlenamon.com/deathpenaltyblog/

In-Depth Look at the Law: Does the Florida Death Penalty by Lethal Injection Violate the Constitution? (Part 2)

May 15th, 2009

BY admin

Today, in part two of our three part series: the three drugs that make up the Florida execution cocktail are discussed in detail. Again, much of the language used here can be seen in any number of defensive motions filed in capital punishment matters across the state today.

1. Thipental Sodium – the First Drug to be Administered

Thiopental sodium is the first drug to be administered during an execution by lethal injection in Florida. As a general anesthetic, thiopental sodium poses special risks because it is so short-lasting that for any number of reasons it can cease to operate as sufficient anesthesia long before the other drugs cause the death of the condemned.[1] Think about that.

It stops working within minutes.

In an affidavit submitted during litigation in Tennessee, Dr. Dennis Geiser, the chairman of the Department of Large Animal Clinical Sciences at the College of Veterinary Medicine at the University of Tennessee, swore under oath that:

    the dosage of thiopental sodium must be measured with some degree of precision, and the administration of the proper amount of the dosage will depend on the concentration of the drug and the size and condition of the subject. Additionally, the drug must be administered properly so that the full amount of the dosage will directly enter the subject’s blood stream at the proper rate. If the dosage is not correct, or if the drug is not properly administered, then it will not adequately anaesthetize the subject, and the subject may experience the untoward effects of the neuromuscular blocking agent . [Further], under Thiopental Sodium the anesthetic effect is extremely short-lived, and will be effective for surgical restraint and anesthesia for a period of only five to seven minutes.

    Affidavit of Dr. Dennis Geiser, in the case of Abu-Ali Abdul Rahman v. Bell, 226 F.3d 696 (6th Cir. 2000), cert. granted on other grounds, 535 U.S. 1016, cert dismissed as improvidently granted, 537 U.S. 88 (2002), on remand on other grounds, ___F.3d___, 2004 WL 2847749 (6th Cir. Dec. 13, 2004) (en banc) (emphasis supplied).

It actually heightens sensitivity to pain.

Drug manufacturers warn that without careful medical supervision of dosage and administration, barbiturates like thiopental sodium can cause paradoxical excitement and can actually heighten sensitivity to pain. See Physicians Desk Reference, 50th Ed. 1996 at 438-440. Manufacturers warn against administration by intravenous injection (hereinafter AIV) unless a patient is unconscious or otherwise incapacitated. Id. Thus, there are serious problems with the first drug, the anesthetic, actually operating to anesthetize the person being executed sufficiently or for long enough to prevent suffering caused by the subsequent two drugs. Denno, supra, at 95-98.

CONTINUES HERE..http://swartzlenamon.com/deathpenaltyblog/in-depth-look-at-the-law-does-the-florida-death-penalty-by-lethal-injection-violate-the-constitution-part-2#more-189

Thanks Trimm for the article. I just had to leave a comment on his site. I am grouchy today and totally disgusted with all the hoopla about a murderer.

Forgot my manners....Good Afternoon Monkeys and guest!

Edit: fix typo per Darla

Yes, thanks Trimm, I'm cranky today also Darla, with all this, I'm so sick of apologists for everything. ::MonkeyNoNo::

I would like to make a comment on his site also, but I'm afraid what I have to say today would not be appropriate for his site, believe me  ::MonkeyEek::

After watching the A's the other night, I thought what pompus azzes they were.  I wondered how they ever got to that place and what could possibly bring them back.  The only way back, I think is to first admit to themselves what has really occured.  Then admit it to each other.  Then to God or what ever their higher power is.  Then comes the hard part.  They have to start undoing all of the damage they have done.  They need to contact their attorneys and tell them the truth.  Then they need to go see Casey and tell her they will always love her and support her, but that they realize the stories she has been telling cannot be the truth and they will no longer stand by those lies.  They need to convince Casey that this is the only way they can stand by her.  Then and only then can they work together as a family and be happy, be normal.  I will pray to that end.

The Anthonys are beyond redemption. They will never be normal. They will never be happy.
They have been like this their entire lives. They don't want to behave any differently.
I personally think they like all of this. They get sympathy and donations from some who think that they need the public sympathy as they lost granddaughter. You know what, alot of people have lost their children and grandchildren to disease and accidents and murder.
They don't go on LKL selling stinky tiny teddy bears that cost .39 cents that they are going to donate to OCSD.

I totally agree A1, but must respectfully take exception to the "be happy, be normal".  Me thinks that even without the death of Caylee, they could not be happy or normal.   ::MonkeyCool::

Good afternoon Monkeys!  I hope Casey is having to remember her weekends of old!  Missing her party friends & pole dancing at Fusion.   
::MonkeyDevil::

For everyone else, I hope you are enjoying your families & loved ones & having a great weekend.

Good Afternoon, monkeys and guests. We have been outside working and admiring the beautiful flowers, birds and our prolifically growing tomatoes. Maybe my aches and pains are worth it after all.

I was thinking about the Anthony's yard, with all the plants, flowers, and manicured lawn. I was thinking about how much time and effort they must have put into it to be that way. I saw a picture on their foundation site of Cindy and George sitting on their enclosed sun porch and all the beautiful orchids that were growing there. It seems to me that the care for all this must have been a dedicated job.

How can the people that did all the care of growing things, pay so little attention to the little growing girl in their house? Yes, there was all the material things that money could by, and I have no doubt that Caylee was kept scrupulously clean and fed. But who took the time to look deep in her eyes and see the haunted look, or the dark circles under her eyes that we can see in her pictures? Who worried about the fierce arguements and battles that she overheard? I am sure Cindy and Casey and even George did not fight in whispers. How many nights did she lay in her little bed, afraid and listening to all that? And how could they turn a blind eye to Casey's evil, and yet turn her loose with the most valuable thing in their home????

On such a lovely day in my garden, I can still think of Caylee and what happened to her. The Anthonys cared for their plants and pets better than they did for Caylee. There is no denying that. I try not to hate them on a day like today, but I find myself hating them worse. Just my view.    ::MonkeyAngel::

I don't know what happened there.  ::MonkeyEek::

Trimm, I appreciate you posting that article. To tell the truth, I don't really care if Casey gets the needle if it is painful, or makes her excited or takes a long time. I don't care! I am sure that Caylee went through all those things and worse.  I used to be against capital punishment, but I have seen too may evil people do too many evil things.

We lost a police officer where I worked to a cruel man who had terrorized his neighborhood for years. He had warrants out for him for various bad things he had done, but had a family that would hide him. THere had been a huge contingent of officers in the area trying to find him earlier, but couldn't. A little later our friend that was a beat cop in the area spotted him and called for backup. Before anyone could get there, he was shot in the head with his own service gun and was killed. Many neighbors saw the scuffle and saw Teddy Bear overpowered.  He was sentenced to death, as the terrified neighbors testified against him. It was overturned on a technicality, and he was allowed out of bond. When his trial came up again, all the neighbors that would have testified against him either disappeard or were afraid to testify again. As far as I know he is still walking the streets and terifying everyone he comes in contact with. The officer was called Teddy Bear, because he was a kind, compassionate man. He did not deserve what happened to him. My whole outlook about the judicial system and death penalty was changed by this incident.

I pray daily that the system gets it right for Caylee. I don't care whether Casey gets life without parole or death. Either way I hope she is miserable whatever life she has, and that we never have to hear about her again.  Again, just my view.

Oh, yes, we wouldn't want the condemned to feel any pain, now would we? I mean, sure they may have tortured their victim before killing them. The condemned deserve mercy? I think not. Any good SWAT agent knows where the "sweet spot" is. Why not just let a SWAT guy do the execution? Much cheaper, much quicker.

Oh, what's that you say? A bullet to the brain is inhumane? It takes society down to the killer's level? Well....society executes people who kill- after a trial. That's the big difference. The criminals are found guilty and punished. The victims, however, are not allowed that civility.

As you can see by my avi, I'm pro-death penalty for certain cases. This is one. I'll even send the bullet!

You are right!  "The truth shall set you free".

Hi Fanny, glad you are having nice weather and working in your yard.

I have to agree with you regarding the Ant's yard, their plants, their pool. All pristine. I even bet ole George used a ruler to measure when the grass was tall enough and had to be mowed.

We know from video's their house was pristine. When I first saw the home videos of Caylee I couldn't imagine a two year old even lived in the house along with two dogs. White carpet, white furniture all sparkling clean. I thought to myself at the time, someone in that family has OCD.

I forget which one said that George is meticulous about keeping their cars clean, oil changed, etc. Cindy keeps the house in tip top shape, washes Caylee 3 or 4 times a day. KC cleans and cooks for the boyfriend so much, he and the roomate tolerate her because of this.

Your post made me think, did Caylee make a mess of something on Father's day night? Did she spill her juice on the carpet? Did she walk into the house dripping wet from the pool, instead of drying off outside? Did Caylee poop in her diaper and it made a mess?

I am not blaming Caylee for this at all so please be gentle and no nanner throwing, but JSM's question is this. DID CAYLEE DO SOMETHING THAT PISSED ONE OF THOSE CLEAN FREAKS OFF SO BAD/MESSY THAT CAYLEE CAUGHT THE WRATH OF CINDY, KC OR GEORGE?

We know there was a fight, about what we don't know, maybe Caylee made a mess, KC didn't want to clean it up. She and Cindy had a row, Caylee was the one to blame and one of them (KC) killed her for it.

Just throwing this out there, like I said please no nanner throwing at JSM. You monkeys know how much I hate them all.   ::MonkeyWaa::

Trimm, thanks for the article. I meant to post a thank you earlier. If I can figure how to email this article to my step dad and ask him some questions, maybe he can give us some insight to this drug mumbo jumbo means. He is an anesthesiologist and I would like to know his take on it. Only thing is he gives me short explanations and then asks me if that makes sense. Usually it doesn't make sense at all. He did help me make sense when the chloroform info came out.

 ::MonkeyWaa:: I post and everyone leaves.  ::MonkeyWaa:: Going back to laundry now.  ::MonkeyDevil::

I was wanting to add a vid for Mindful thinking of what Casey should have learned.
Youtube though has conveniently banned part One of Scared Straight due to Music infringement. Isn't that special.
I know my parents even as protective as they were " Made Me" watch the documentary " Scared Straight" I was 12 or so ... and I will never forget that documentary. At 12 I was no where near to be a Teen to be put into a scared straight program .. I barely spoke let alone did anything wrong. Yet watching the documentary did instill within me if you do choose the wrong paths in life - the outcome could be THIS.

Casey's worst fear would be that she could no longer Use Cindy's Credit Cards .....

 

Your not Alone :)

Casey
I believe SHE believes she is going to WALK ..and that she will be found not guilty and or even find at the end of all this - that she fight for yet another trial stating she was not represented properly and go for an Appeal.

I know that the Trial is no where near yet - But I really question BOBO's Motives and the motives of the Defense team .. More Money is to be made if Slore is acquitted - Then all the books can be written, the movies can be made .. Reader's Digest Version will be even paid for.

I see Capp is here - what's your opinion.

Ooo I just got chills - Thank You CAPP ~ Lets Pray it is Briant and he is safe.
snipped: http://www.huliq.com/3257/80990/kidnapped-briant-rodriguez-possibly-found-mexico

Detectives in San Bernardino County and the FBI received information from Mexican officials in the border town of Mexicali on Friday. Mexican authorities said that they had found a boy that could be Briant Rodriguez.

Unfortunately, identification of Briant Rodriguez is behing held up by red tape. Mexican officials have requested paperwork, his birth certificate, as well as several other documents to prove his identity. U.S. officials have said they believe the toddler is Briant, but have not yet seen him.

In fact, the boy's mother, Maria Rosalina Millan, flew to the neighboring city of Calexico to confirm his identity but Mexican officials are still asking for the necessary paperwork they say is required to complete an ID procedure in their country.

Thanks Deenie, just read your post about scared straight. I never saw it, probably would have scared to death if I had seen it.

Yah it was made in 1978 and even then it was huge controversy - it is available to watch part 2 and on via Youtube. It's 78 style with the grainy film and all and yes it is still Scary.
 

It is basically the same drugs as given for general anesthesia.
Diprivan is used more than Thiopental Sodium nowadays, the effect is to put you to sleep.
Once you are asleep a muscle relaxant is given. For general anesthesia purposes, you are then intubated and the anesthesia team keep you on mechanical ventilation, then the Surgery proceeds.
As used for lethal injection a dose of Thiopental is given, you are rendered unconscious, the muscle relaxant is given which paralyzes the muscles of respiration. After a short interval all respiration ceases, the heart slows down and ceases.
Most anesthesia drugs have a weight/dose ratio. Anesthesiologists calculate and give the correct dose many times a day. It's not rocket science. What this Dr Geiser says about giving the incorrect dose applies to any medicine.
I fail to see how it can be unusual punishment. The subject is deeply unconscious when death occurs.
I have had to take pets in to have lethal injections and apart from the upset it caused me, the death was very gentle.

The only reason why I brought it up was by the posts about lethal injection -
Just Casey being put into Orange County Prison " Public within the Inmates" may be a worse fate for her, than Lethal injection. Because I feel for once she needs to Stand Straight within her Peers ... Young Women who had Babies(( and have their Children on the Outside and Love them )) when they were even Younger than Slore ..who are now in Prison for Drugs and or B&E or prostitution .. Or incarcerated for Loving a POS guy too much that they were sold out for Drugs as a carrier and so on and so on ..

Slore needs to SEE Human Reaction in its RAWest form ~I think for her to GATHER what she did is for her to be put into general population. Why is that she is in Protection within the county Jail ??? Because they " LE" Knows that if they put Slore in General Population she would be DEAD within 48 hours. The female inmates would GLEEFULLY Take her apart like a Rag Doll.. within 5 mins.
Now would that happen to a Innocent Woman ?? put into general population NO ..
- Slore's entire world has been nothing but a Big fluffy Pamper and she has been Pat on her Axx by her parents.  NO Matter what you do Casey ..rob, steal, lie, construe, cheat, ..its all Ok.
Well not by society - the Ant's Rules are not allowed..
May it be the Anthony's are " Lawless" and believe in their little world of ANTDOM - as long as it is a secret and all is well .. even Murder does not seem to be beneath them. Their Arrogance proceeds their intelligence .. which all boils down to ... Being Martyrs and Money Mongers and Associating themselves with unlawful groups such as KFN.  ( With their Atty by their Side) All though their last words are Its all in Memory of Caylee.

I pray that within the Trial when ever it is to be - that Cindy and George are found Guilty of aiding or destroying evidence - I don't care if they do not go to jail. I just want it on Record that they are the Human Garbage that they prove themselves to Be.
Just because their White, Civil Servants in Career, Have a nice house, wear pressed clothes, have two dogs and a nice yard ...does not mean they can't be Monsters. I am in Hating mood .. sorry.  ::MonkeyDevil::



 

Thank You Western because Your words are true.
It is what is ..Its Lethal - an injection that is 3 times of what is permitted "case in point for surgery"  and causes Death.
My gf worked for the Human Society for 5 yrs and she was on rotation for Uth day she would call it - and I think that she actually has never recovered mentally from that.
Its not painful for the animal in medical terms- what if painful though is the reason why ..
an animal would ever have to be put out .. for lack their of ( too many reasons that make no sense .. can't go there and get into that .. I will have to have Boo/Foggy hold my hand) It is just unjust for too many reasons. 

I remember when it came out, I was in the 6th or 7th grade. It was a big deal. My parents wouldn't let us watch it. Glad they didn't. Plus they didn't need to make us watch, just the "look" from my Daddy would scare you straight.  ::MonkeyHaHa:: I think that is why I never really got into trouble as a kid. He never hit me but once cause I deserved it. and it was with a belt to my behind. Then I got the talking to and after that all he had to do was give the look and I was on the straight and narrow. Too bad Cindy and George didn't give the "look" to KC instead of vice versa. JMO JSM

I agree- it causes a lot of anguish when you have to take your dearly loved pet in.... but compared to a prolonged death gasping for breath, or in severe pain, it is much kinder. No pain for the pet, but  agony for the person who makes the decision.

Sorry I left you to do laundry JSM. I had come inside because a big rainstorm came up. It only lasted a little while, so we went back out  to clean up the dirt off the pavers. My son grilled steak on the grill, along with grilled vegies and baked potato. We've lit the new tiki torches and are going out in a bit to look at the stars. It is perfectly clear tonight.

I don't think if Casey got the needle that it would be anything near the suffering that Caylee went through. I hope Caylee went peacefully, God knows I do. But seeing that Casey left Caylee out where she did, and left her so long, I really don't believe Caylee's death was done in humane manner. What's more, I think Caylee came close to death many times before she actually died. I don't think there was any careful calculations for whatever she was given. And I think she saw the evil, mean face of Casey's many times before she died. Such terrible thoughts to have on such a wonderful day as today was for us. Such a good day has made me somewhat introspective and wishing Caylee could have spent it with us. JMO

We have not forgotten you Caylee, nor will we.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Deenie- I quoted your post but it didn't show up for some reason?

Thanks WO, you made it more simple than if I had asked my step dad. I am sorry about taking pets in for this, makes me really sad. I don't know if I could bear having to do that to my Josef. But that being said, if it were KC I hope she suffers. No muscle relaxant, just duct tape around her mouth and nose, followed by a trash bag around her body. Suffocation isn't good enough for her sorry arse. Sorry JMO JSM

Deenie, I was made to watch Scared Straight too. My God, it's been so many years and I can still see those inmates talking to the teens. Scared the crap out of me!  ::MonkeyEek::

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Miracles do Happen .................

Follow up on Klaas's post within his Cage .. 

It's okay, Fanny JSM just was bored so did laundry. I don't know if you read my reply to you earlier about their yard, clean house etc. If not, no biggie. It's been raining here and it is cold so I am tired and grumpy to say the least.

JSM is going to watch old movies on PBS, some stupid cowboy movie. Magnificent 7 or something like that. It's in color. JSM likes black and white old movies. Have a good night monkeys. I will check back in later. JSM

  ::cartwheel::  ::cartwheel::  ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: I am so glad he was found!!! JSM

I am still very worried about Briant Rodriguez. It is not for sure yet that it is him yet. Mexico seems not to be very co-operative either.  What concerns me is the body of the child found in Albuquerque N.M. buried on a playground. The parents or guardians haven't come forward. Regardless, it is yet another dead and probably murdered child.

http://www.abqjournal.com/abqnews/abqnewseeker-mainmenu-39/12515-apd-continues-to-investigate-death-of-child.html

Thank God!!!! The news came through as I was writing my last post.
 ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance::

Hi My Boo
Yes it was One of the Most Scariest NON Hollywood TV broadcasts that I have ever watched. And will never forget. My Dad was the One who wanted me and my Bro to See it most. He did out of Love not to scare the crap out of us -and I am thankful that he did make us watch it.

Yes, JSM. I did read your reply to my post. That could very well might be what happened. I think the tension in the household had been racheted up for a long time. Something had to blow between Casey and Cindy. Poor Caylee was just caught in the middle.  ::MonkeyWaa:: 

I hope you enjoy your movie tonight. I know how you love you some cowboys. Don't feed Josef too much popcorn!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

O/T Did you ever find out your Italian neighbor lady??

For Briant and His Family ..and All the Parents who are struggling with their own children in their Lives ..Missing or NOT missing. We do struggle as parents full circle yes we do.
For those of us who struggle being Parents sometimes we have to remove ourselves from the situation and just find Peace .. that our kids are not " Slore. 

http://www.youtube.com/v/nUSY1ydMpi8&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x234900&color2=0x4e9e00&border=1

See now, it's different for this generation and that's quite scary in itself. Where as we were taught to respect the law, watch scared straight, our parents spanked us and gave us a stern talking when we did something bad and washed our mouths out with soap when we swore. The line was clearly drawn and if we chose to cross it, we paid the price. It's called morals.

Now children are talking back, calling the police when parents try to discipline them. Remember the article of the teenage girl who called police when daddy took her cell phone away? Yep, he went to jail. Children are screaming at their parents as if they were peers and people are taking it!! Why? B/c they don't want to loose the love of the child. They really have no idea how to raise a child and it's worse with fine examples like Casey Anthony out there. She disrepected her parents, she stole from them, she took their credit cards and spent as much money that it could have paid off my house!! George's comments were perfect example of this. "Your in charge honey" "We work for you!" This girl killed her daughter and he just as much patted her on the back and said "Job well done, don't hate me!"

When my Mom asked me a question, I gave a straight answer, even if it meant getting a spanking in the process. There was no bargaining with her. I respected her and she taught me well. I don't lie, I get all clamy and worry when I attempt to. It just doesn't sit well with me and I'm sure it was the way I was brought up.

Casey is a product of her upbringing. She's had her parents by the tail since she was little and she knew it. She would do wrong and watch Mommy and Daddy scramble to clean up her mess before the neighbors noticed. GA and CA made her what she is today, a cold blooded killer. They shouldn't act shocked, they knew this was coming. Just didn't expect it would be their granddaughter who paid the price. Was probably thinking it would be someone else's kid.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

OT~ Briant Rodriguez reunited with his mother:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6427361.html

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: Wow great news. I am so happy and thankful that he was found safe. Thank you Lord.

Boo I was raised that way too. Now parents let the kids be the parents . My daughter is 7 yrs older than her brother and when he became a teenager, she told him, just tell Moma the truth, cause she is going to find it out anyway. I don't remember but one or two spankings in my life, My dad could make me feel like a snake just talking to me.

Thanks for reading my post. I just didn't know if it was posted. I was having trouble with my computer. I think poor Caylee was torn apart three ways, one by KC as a trophy, one by Cindy not as a grandaughter, but more of "look what KC did to me now! " and for George as a grandaughter as much as Caylee could be with the two evil women in his life running the show. Not trying to take up for George, but I think he is the ONLY one in that family that loved that baby truly and unconditionally. George was probably shocked at being a grandpa, but of all of them, I think he loved Caylee as a human being not as a PRIZE or POSSESSION. JMO JSM

No I don't know what happened with my neighbor last night. I haven't seen her or her husband. I hope she/he or the baby is okay. Thanks for asking. JSM

Forgot my manners...Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!!!!!!!!

JSM tried lying once or twice, got the look. Still tried it when I was older and they always knew I was lying. JSM was a bad bad bad young adult. JSM feels so sorry for her parents at the time. Prayers were answered as I hope I turned out to be a better person than I was in my early 20's.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thank you Deenie. It is hard to be a parent and a grandparent. Yes, and sometimes we do have to remove ourselves from the situation. It does not stop us from loving them.   ::MonkeyAngel::

YES Boo that was how I was Raised too - all My Parent to do was use a Tone in their voice and it was enough for me to quiver in my shoes... I Feared them literally when they used just a tone in their voice. When I was little My Mother used a Paddle Ball set from the Dime store - she cut off the elastic string and Ball and would raise the paddle and WE would RUN.
Not for being a Brat You Can't catch me .. But we Ran for our Lives ..

The entire transcend of Everyone is Equal in School - no Matter if you participate or not as long as your in the Group are your a Winner - Sold out our Kids. NO Scores in Sports.
If you get a decent grade on a report the entire Class gets Pizza - WHO made this UP?
I don't think it was parents? I don't know. I recall going to my Daughters 6th grade " Parent's night" and the teacher was older than Mr. Dress UP and she said .. Nothing about her " Curriculum"  She did say that she needed Tennis Balls for the desks and chairs (feet) to keep them from making a noise she would not allow in her class. She did talk about her students "making out" in the hallway after the bell rang and that she would not give them 2 warnings .. She as well said if your Child is going to miss 5-9 days due to family vacation and or if your not able to get your child to school - I wish for you to contact me so I can send your child's Homework to some one that is able to pick it up in the main office.
It kept all of me from not falling out of my chair and gasping out loud and I never turned my head but gazed for other parents " facial expressions" they are were smiling ..and I thought AM I on another Planet .. This is 6th grade and Public school.
That was when my daughter was in 6th grade and she is now a Senior in High School with a grade point ave of ... I Dont CARE.  Wonder Why ? Not only is School a Parental issue but the Teacher's as well.  Teacher's are not what the used to be in my Book - It's not the Teacher its what they promote - Just breath and blink so I can pass you.

Kinda like Cindy describing Casey and Motherhood

Your Welcome Fanny - I love that Song truly it is one of my faves.

How is your Neck ? Did you get frozen Pea's ...

JSM, I am giving you "the look" now!! You have turned out to be a wonderful caring person, regardless what you did in your 20's....I know your parents are proud of you and love you very much.... We have all done things in our lives that worried our parents. Actually my actions came a little later than yours....My mama still loved me unconditionally though, even though she stayed up plenty of nights smoking one cigarette after another. My daddy was gone by that time, but he would have been doing the same....I never stole a cent from either of them like Casey. I would have never thought about it. I sure didn't kill my own child. I did alway have consequences for what I did, and that was the difference for Casey. JMO

Yes I did, and it worked! My son gave ME "the look" when I sent him out to the freezer in the garage to get them. I did it the next night too, and now I am pain free. Well, my neck is pain free. There are too many sore places on my body from gardening to pack myself with frozen peas. I would probably die of hypothermia.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I wonder if Casey is nice and cozy tonight?? She may be staring at her black artificial flowers..... ::MonkeyEek::

O Good Old Peas .. Yay .. I am glad they helped your pain.
I have to say that I don't believe " even as much as I hate Slore" I don't believe one word out of the so called Inmate's mouth ..about Slore behind bars ..

JSM for You cuz I think your all that - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRkovnss7sg

I haven't made up my mind whether it is true or not. If it was true, I hope they put duct tape over her mouth.  ::MonkeyRoll::

Don't give me the "look". ::MonkeyWaa:: 

My parents all of them love me unconditionally. My 2nd stepdad was here for about four hours this afternoon. He raised us like his own. I love him so much. He loved me and everything I did unconditionally. Long story. If you can go back a ways to musings, you may see my story.

I never stole money either. I had a conscious, KC did not have one. But I wish my mom had smoked, she may have been a little easier on me once I got home a tad late.  ::MonkeyDevil::

  ::MonkeyDance:: Thank you Deenie. I love that song. That makes me happy you think I am all that. I think you are wonderful Deenie.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I found a week ago or so a Orange County Florida site that offered a slide show of " Inmate Cells" which are not bigger than a closet if your in Protection ...

Which now I can't find the link. I just went online to find again that site yet came up with a photo of Caylee which I have never ever seen before.

Maybe this photo was on Larry King this last round of Ants - which is nothing to me.
But I have Never EVER seen this Photo of Caylee and it to me is disturbing.

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k14/boxah104/cayleecellphonelazarro-1.jpg)

Says on the site it is Caylee with Tony  -

http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/tag/casey-anthony-trial/FCC%20Registered%20Cell%20Phone%20and%20Antenna%20Towers%20in%20Orlando,%20Florida/

You are ALL That ~JSM
Now tell me about this photo I have never ever seen of Caylee - do you know it ?
I have seen every pic I think known of Caylee - this one though is  ::MonkeyNoNo:: Can you help me ?

 ::MonkeyAngel:: Night monkeys, JSM loves all you monkeys.  It is so cold and windy tonight. God Bless you all and God Bless Caylee. I am so glad that little boy was found. JSM is having a hard time tonight.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Deenie, the picture was taken by Tony with his cell phone. Very very sad picture. There is also a picture of Caylee with KC from his cell phone too. Very sad.

Thank You Jsm
I have never ever seen that photo before of Caylee
Good Night You xxx

I'm sure I will be back Deenie. I think there is a picture of Caylee and KC that he took with his cell phone. There is another that is kind of blurry and creepy of KC.  I saw it on Orlando Sentinal website. Go look there for doc dump pictures. It is on there, you have to weed out the pictures of the slore and her friends. Hugs to you Deenie. JSM

Is it me or is it .................sigh ?? She looks at best 4 yrs old in that photo when she is not yet even 3.
Why does Caylee look so much older than she really is and so tired in that photo ( not to mention the deep scab on her cheek bone) - When Cindy and George were to be IN CARE of Caylee .......
When it is taken * photo * SLORE was in her GLORY loving TONY .. thinking he was her white horse to ride her away... Mrs Casey Lazzaro .. with rainbows and hearts written in a note pad .. I am sick. I have never seen that photo of Caylee before now.
 :gaah:

Nite JSM and Josef. We have just come in from trying to look at the stars. It is windy and chilly here too, we all had to put on jackets. There is a bunch of clouds out since it got dark, so no stars. Our cats sat inside the sliding back door giving us that "WTF!" look. They are not used to us sitting outside at night. Sorry you are having a bad night tonight. Tomorrow will be better.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Well apparently sindy has a lot of photos of Caylee she can sell off. Must keep the money train coming. So sad, really they have no soul. BUT I am confident that God will take care of them when their time comes. No denying, no lying, no scamming, just the truth.

Caylee looked tired in that pic to me too. I wonder if that was about the time that Ricardo talking about Caylee running into a table at his apartment. If so, that would have made it around June 9 or 10. Casey spent the night with him with Caylee during that period. Casey was really double-dipping. I am afraid Caylee saw and heard many things in her young life that she shouldn't have.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Deenie, there are many pictures of Caylee where she looks so much older than 2 1/2, this one she looks like a very big girl. There is another that she looks like a big girl her in her swim suit and a hat. Then I saw the video of her with her Papa on Father's day and I couldn't believe how tiny and small she was once I saw that video. She was a little tiny baby, but sometimes she looks like a 4 year old. I'm glad I am not the only person that thought the same thing that she looks older. The sad thing is the slore chose Tony over Caylee. No fault of Tony's don't get me wrong, it was all KC's doing. To me Tony was a bad guy at first for saying that he wanted boys not girls. But after seeing his interviews, I think he was a good guy for not wanting Caylee around the partying. JMO JSM 

Thanks Fanny. I swear I want to become a nun and join a convent. Sorry you didn't get to look at the stars. I hope it gets warmer for you so you can send me some tomaters!

Night monkeys, despite a nap, I'm still tired. Heading to bed, I just hope Grissom left me some room!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

JSM - ITA .. I think that Tony even the player he thought he was - he is yet another victim
I don't feel anything bad towards Tony he is just a Guy that was caught up in the free Kitty and you know what I mean.

Love You Boo Good Night  ::MonkeyAngel::

I don't think you really want to be a nun. I think you are saying that because it is Saturday night.... ::MonkeyRoll::

I can't wait for the tomaters either. If we have some on all the ones we planted, I'll send you some and we'll have mater sammiches together.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Night Boo. Josef says night too.

Nite Boo. I am going to go to bed myself. It has been a good day.

Good nite to you too Deenie and JSM and any monkey and guest that have been hanging in the rafters with us tonight. Hopefully next week we will have some new docs and possibly Lenny may give his depo. At least we know that there will be a hearing. If Bozo is there, I am sure he will make a babbling idiot of himself again. Maybe this time Judge Strickland really will chase him around the courtroom with his robes flapping and his gavel in his hand. I sure hope so! Now that would be funny, I don't care who you are.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Good nite, ya'll. Good bless.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I don't know Fanny, I swear if it wasn't for Josef I would try and join a convent. I couldn't give up my baby even for the Lord    ::MonkeyAngel::

Plus I don't think I could do without my monkeys, so JSM will not join the convent.  ::MonkeyWink::

Yes he is a victim. If I hadn't have seen that Tony taped Lee in the care I would have thought Tony was a dawg. That made me think a lot highly about Tony L along with him telling KC to leave Caylee at home if they were partying. JMO JSM

For real, JSM is going to bed now. Sleep well all monkeys. Graduation is tomorrow at the University where I go to church. So no Mass, I have to find a church to go to tomorrow. Have a great evening. Hugs JSM  ::MonkeyAngel::

O boi what a day, I was out of the cage minus to report hearing Briant was found - thanks be to God.   Today, was a whirlwind because we had our new carpet installed, I was so tired I passed out & now I'm up in the wee hours with no night owls to converse with.

I see Lenamon is at his bleeding heart babble again.  Here is my opinion for what it is worth, quite frankly I'm sick of hearing about what we should be considering regarding punishment for convicted murderers.  They sure didnt consider their victims nor the agony & terror they gave them yet I'm supposed to sympathize if they feel a possible touch of discomfort before they are basically put to sleep for good?  How do we equate being put to sleep compared to suffocation, strangulation, stabbing, lethal gunshot wounds, or even murder by overdose?  Do individuals advocating against the death penalty spend one moment thinking about the pain & suffering victims go thru...did they have a choice NO!  While I've always been against physical violence, at the same time I do believe that heinous killers should face the ultimate punishment...who qualifies for that in my mind, serial killers, child murderers, terrorists & those that commit a crime with no regard for human life causing the death of several people.   I'll tell ya one thing had a loved one of mine been murdered, law enforcement better get that person before I do because I can't guarantee I would wait for a jury of peers to determine the outcome - that comes from instinct not the logical mind.   My son was attacked viciously while playing basketball with friends in the privacy of one his friend's backyard, it was horrid but by the grace of God he didnt suffer permanent damage or worse albeit within inches (long story not for this thread) - that had me beyond livid as is & I fought with every ounce of my being to make sure these already harden teenage criminals received punishment.  The issues in that case were many, lowlife parents, school system ignored a zero tolerance policy (1 of them brought a knife to school previously), juvenile jails were crowded, not enough group homes...on and on but after 7 court appearances & my son facing his attackers as a 13 year old to tell the judge what he suffered & what he felt should be done,  they finally got sentenced but it was under par to what the State statue provided.   After that I served as a CASA volunteer for a few years...even then it was quite frustrating because in Jersey there are just not enough facilities, DYFUS is overwhelmed missing way too much before its too late & too many want to give juvenile offenders a second chance to the tune of a dozen recurrences.

We are so far afield from a general consensus of morality today, right now too much of a percentage of society is losing sight of accountability, respect & just plain decency, 1% of that whole is way too many.   Too many parents are failing, substance abuse clouds minds, legislators & judges choose lenacy despite statistics, not enough is being done to offer our youth an education in behavioral studies & mental health yet these same "bleeding heart" individuals utilize 1001 excuses when things go horribly irreversibly wrong.  Unfortunately, all I see is a further decline, I've been afraid for my children-more afraid of what is to come for mine & our generations present/future grandchildren.  I'd like to ask individuals such as Lenamon what he does on a daily basis to prevent these atrocities from occurring, what does he offer society besides excuses.  Like so many of you, my young life was filled with adversity, some that know me long-term would say novel worthy in many respects so the balance in my mind is despite suffrage & anguish I survived with a vengeance making what I could of my life, in turn as a mom, many years of that being a single parent, my 2 blessed me with not an ounce of concern or trouble.   How was that accomplished, relatively simple... natural parental love, providing basic guidelines of behavioral expectations, teaching consideration & compassion of others, applying learned logic, listening skills, quality of time spent with open communication & giving both of them the opportunity to utilize their own critical thinking skills.  Point being, we all have a choice in life & even if we have been exposed to pain in a variety of ways we can look in many directions for strength & achieve a positive outcome to resist not turning out worse than what caused that agony...if you haven't noticed this woman is not one inclined to accept excuses for reprehensible conduct.   I often contemplate how one could be a victim of one thing or another & yet then become the aggressor/abuser if they knew the pain it caused...its a phenomenon we all will continue to grapple with.

One more quick thing, if Casey is convicted of murder but does not receive the death penalty, she will not be in general population - she will be isolated in State prison as well due to being a child killer - even in prison other inmates snub their noses to those that kill babies & wish to cause them harm...so we will spend more of our tax dollars having to take extra measures to protect her life.   As far as what she would ever suffer after her conviction...she is a narcissistic sociopath who will never reach the full magnitude of what she did nor care except for how it affects her, don't expect to ever hear genuine remorse out of her.

I might as well be the first to wish the monkeys good morning as I say good nite...lol

JSM... www.masstimes.org

Good Morning, Capp

I am so sorry about what happened to your son and what he went through.  How is he doing now? 

 

Morning Califmom, tks for asking.  He suffered a can of mace being sprayed in his face, slight lung compromise but healed, a hairline fractured ankle, concussion & multiple bruises back then but he rebounded magnificently & with a strength of character - the kid 4 days later insisted on showing up to his spring concert on crutches so he didnt disappoint his band members, not to mention he had a drum solo, people gave him a standing O & it really helped him overcome the initial trauma.  A few weeks later, since the attack made the local papers, the NJ devils read that in the process of the attack his brand new leather NJ Devil's jacket was stolen & they called our local PD to get in touch with us so they could have us come to a game, dine at the clubhouse & they presented him with a new jacket.  He went on to play Varsity football, hockey & baseball in HS.     A few years later, he was a young EMT when 911 occurred, as it happened he rushed in the city to assist continuing to help at Ground Zero for 6 more days until I encouraged him it was time to return to his pre-med college classes but 6 months later he enlisted, med specialist & I'm a proud Army mom. 

OK, now I'm heading out for a few hours...cyas this afternoon!

I just LOVE 'mater sammiches!!!! Can't plant until memorial day.  I don't get any of my own until September. Just got Topsy Turvey but this seems like a gimmick???  Casey will never know a simple thing like a home grown tomato sandwich!!

Fanny...I enjoy your posts and great sence of humor. Sometimes I can start to feel sad and think to myself...
At least I am not an Anthony....Cheers me right up!!

JSM..Love you and Josef. Still can't reach you. One day we might be on at the same time.  ::MonkeyConfused::

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/05/ted-bundy-and-casey-anthony-death-penalty/
Ted Bundy and Casey Anthony: Death Penalty
May 16, 2009 by: Express
The Trials: Ted Bundy Represented Himself
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WOULD CASEY ANTHONY GET THE DEATH PENALTY IF LAW CHANGES?

American Bar Association Panel Says Fla. Death Penalty in Need of Reform
“    The study’s recommendations:

 ***Among the recommendations by a panel of judges, prosecutors and defense attorneys for changes in Florida’s death penalty were:

    * ***Requiring an unanimous jury verdict before judges can impose a death sentence.
    * ***Creating a commission to investigate wrongful convictions in capital cases and propose methods to prevent them.
    * ***Creating a second commission to review factual claims of innocence.
    * ***Adopting new standards on the qualifications and compensation of death penalty attorneys and appeals lawyers.
    * ***Drafting protocols to determine what cases should be eligible for the death penalty.
    * ***Study racial disparities in capital punishment cases.
    * ***Establishing new rules for clemency.

Attorney General Charlie Crist, who is also the Republican candidate for governor, declined immediate comment Friday through a spokeswoman, but last fall he urged the Legislature not to change the law.
“Had the requirement for an unanimous vote to recommend been in place earlier, serial killers such as Ted Bundy, Aileen Wuornos and others would not have met the fate they deserved for their actions. Juries recommended death for both Bundy and Wuornos by 10-2 votes,” Crist said then.Source  “

If serial killer Ted Bundy did not get a unanimous jury vote for the Death Penalty  do you think Casey Anthony will?  At this point  the current law is that the death penalty does not have to be unanimous but the law could change.

Ted Bundy was his own Death Penalty lawyer in his Trial yet now Casey Anthony must have a “Death Penalty Qualified” lead attorney for her upcoming trial.  I think alot of us are still waiting for more clarification on the Death Qualified attorney requirement in Florida regarding the Casey Anthony case .  Maybe since Ted Bundy did not get any appeals to go through it means since it was ‘his’ choice to be his own counsel that he sealed his fate.  If so, then Casey would seal her fate if she does choose Jose Baez as her lead counsel.

Forget to say Good Morning Monkeys.  ::MonkeyDance::
Mornin' Nutt,I know you're here somewhere.  ::MonkeyDevil::

Morning Monkeys! It's a great day! Hopefully son will be over to take down the ivy and my home will start taking shape again. I will be in and out today. I'm sure there will be no new news but one can only hope that KC has a really bad day today and we will hear about it!  ::MonkeyTongue::

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http://www.wesh.com/news/19471201/detail.html
Anthony's Defense Wants Civil Case Dropped
Gonzalez Says Being Named As Nanny Defamed Her

POSTED: 11:05 am EDT May 15, 2009
UPDATED: 9:55 am EDT May 17, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Attorneys for Casey Anthony are expected to ask a judge to dismiss the defamation suit against her next Tuesday.

Zenaida Gonzalez of Kissimmee claims Anthony's allegations that a babysitter by the same name kidnapped Caylee caused her to lose her job and ruined her good name.

Anthony is in the Orange County Jail, charged with murder in her daughter's death. Caylee's remains were found last December in a wooded area off Suburban Drive near the Anthony family home in East Orange County.

In recent depositions, Anthony's family members said under oath that based on physical description, the woman she was describing is not the same one one suing her. But each also admitted that they never actually met the woman Anthony described.

Friday morning, Gonzalez' attorney Keith Mitnik said he's confident the case will not be dismissed. Mitnik told WESH 2 that they were in the process of amending their original complaint and in Tuesday's hearing will ask that they also be allowed to seek punitive damages against Casey.

"There could be some fireworks," Mitnik said.

Later in the week, another hearing is expected before Judge Jose Rodriguez to determine whether he will order the Anthonys to answer certain questions they would not in their depositions at the offices of Morgan and Morgan last month.

Good Morning, Trimm thanks for the articles. Capp, great post, I'm so sorry for what happened to your son, he sounds like a great person.  ::MonkeyAngel::   Last night I went over to Joy's and she has pics posted of boats  ::MonkeyRoll::  One of the pics, has her about three year old daughter next to one of the boats. I didn't save the pic of the little girl in the mall, the Caylee sighting. I think this little girl could be the one in the sighting, I don't know, but it makes me so mad. If someone wants to look here is her site  http://www.joyangels2930.chatango.com/

Good Morning Monkeys and guests. Top o' the Mornin' to ya!!!  ::MonkeyAngel::

Capp I should have gotten up and chatted with you earlier. I had one of those doze off and wake up kind of nights. Should have just gotten up and be done with it. Just got home from church, and now I need a nap. It is amazing what each monkey brings to the cage. It is no suprise to me the feistiness you relayed about your son's attack. I am glad he turned out to be such a fine man. I can hear the pride in both your children  in your post. You are right, it takes much time and effort to be a parent. It takes much dedication too. Besides being such a good mother and also can explain many legalities to us in a way we can understand, I salute you!!! Besides, when the time is right you can lay down some pretty good NJ smack!! I love it when you go off!!  ::MonkeyDance::

Scarlett, thank you for enjoying my southern humor. We grew up with it and it just comes naturally. You'll probably do ok with your Topsy Turvy. I did consider getting one, but I had a really good place to put ours in the ground.   ::MonkeyWink::

Trimm, thanks for the article about the legislation in Florida about the death penalty. I sure hope it does not go through. I used to not believe in the death penalty, and then I had an abrupt change of heart and have never wavered in my belief again that there are just some evil people out there that do not deserve to waste the natural resourses to keep them alive. Yep, I know, I just got home from church........  ::MonkeyNoNo::

JSM, I hope we will see you later today, and that you haven't run off to a nunnery yet.     ::MonkeyRoll::

Boo, careful with the ivy. When we pulled ours off the fence and garage so they could be painted, there were wasp nests in them!  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyWaa::

Time to go admire and water the garden. Later!  ::MonkeyCool::

Hi Nutt!!!   ::MonkeyDance::

I didn't see you in the cage!

Is that her little girl singing on the Youtube?

What a wonderful victory yesterday when Briant got to go home to his family!!!!  We cannot bring Caylee home,  she is with her Father, but we can be unrelentless in making sure the people responsible for her death will know the Monkeys are not going away and that we love Caylee.

I believe it might be, she has so many different music videos and pics up, is it the girl that is about ten?

That three year old singing is Amy Castle? That's not her daughter.

Oh, ok. I never did see the pics of the boats. Tell you the truth, I was afraid to poke around on her sites. My mamma always told me stay away from crazy people!   ::MonkeyRoll::

Yes, it is a wonderful thing that Briant was found alive. I was so afraid for him. We've had two very good pieces of good news this week! Thank God. I pray for the rest of the missing, both children and adult.
Have you still got your hip waders an slicker on??  ::MonkeyDevil:: I haven't check the weather sites this morning.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sfl-051709-jail-commissary,0,3681469.story

You have to scroll up and she has several pics of boats, one is her three year old girl, I just have a sick feeling they all used that little cutie in the mall that day, and it makes me furious.

cece, I guess when you just sit in a room almost the whole day there is nothing else to do but eat  ::MonkeyEek:: I don't know what my excuse is for snacking through out the day is though  ::MonkeyRoll:: Casey snacks, reads her bible and law books  ::MonkeyEek::

Hi, nope, no slicker now, it is time for the wind to come sweepin down the plain and the unforgiving Oklahoma heat!!

http://www.youtube.com/v/hd0LDSMHjXs&hl=en&fs=1

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: 
Well, I would hope she would be reminded daily of what she did to Caylee, but we know that probably isn't true.   ::MonkeyWaa::

She'd better go easy on the snacks or she won't fit into any of her clothes for the next court appearance!   ::MonkeyDevil::

And that's coming up soon, wonder what she will wear, and we get to see who the DP lawyer is. Is Tuesday still going to be Lenny's depo?

Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!!!

I think Cindy is sending Casey some of her clothes to wear to court. I am waiting for Cindy to bust out in public with some of Casey's slore clothes.

no rose, I have it down that there is a hearing in the civil case on May 19.  I don't know when the Lenny depo is scheduled.  Sorry, I don't take very good notes.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Thank you for the video, Cece.

A couple of the pics there I have never seen. It makes me more angry at Casey to see Caylee's precious face. But we need to keep seeing this and reinforcing our purpose for being here.  ::MonkeyAngel::

 ::MonkeyLaugh::

You're welcome Fanny Mae.  I agree & I get sidetracked by the circus, so I like the reminders of Caylee also.  I miss Brandi's beautiful pictures.  I hope she will be back soon to share again.

Lenny's depo is supposed to be on May 19 too. But Trimm found something on the Orange County Court Clerk's site late Friday afternoon saying something about a cancellation notice for a depo. We don't know whether that is Lenny's. I sure hope not.  ::MonkeyWaa::  I guess we will know more Monday.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Surely to goodness she wouldn't try the blue dress and the knee high boots.  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

My computer mouse seems to have a mind of it's own today, so I will check back with you guys later on.  Monkey hugs to all!

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Thanks, I still hope Lenny's depo goes off as planned, but I doubt it. Today is the National Vigil, if I see Cindy in Casey's blue dress I'm going to :smt078  And if she does, I just hope she has a good fitting bra on  ::MonkeyRoll::

See you later, Cece.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Have a good day cece  ::MonkeyCool::

Maybe she can wear the one  of Casey's that she got at Target with Amy's money. It was barely worn.  ::MonkeyRoll::

Good idea, can't let a perfectly good bra go to waste  ::MonkeyRoll::  I wonder if we will see pics of Cin and George at the vigil, along side Dennis and Sheri? ::MonkeyEek::

You can rest assured there will be one face front and center at the vigil today. JOY and her kids. She is endangering her children by putting their lil faces all over everything . I have always thought that her little girl is the one used for all the Caylee sightings.

Morning Monkeys!!!   ::MonkeyDance::

Wow! That's a visual, Darla!!   ::MonkeyEek::

Can't you just see Shroomhead in a flag towel? She'd look like Uncle Sam, for sure!!!   ::MonkeyEek::

Thank-you me too, and after seeing the little girl by a boat on Joy's chat, I don't have any doubt.  Here is a myspace about the vigil.                http://www.myspace.com/nationalvigilforhope

I'm not good at finding out or figuring out myspace, but is this Michelle Bart's myspace  ::MonkeyConfused::

   ::MonkeyDevil::  At least she wouldn't be in green  ::MonkeyTongue::

No wonder Joy wasn't online on her chats this morning. She was probably busy trying to brush the knots out of her hair. Michelle and Joy must have gone to the same fashion and grooming school.  ::MonkeyRoll::

You and NoRose are probably right about her being the child in the Mall. It didn't work though. Caylee's remains were found anyway.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Isn't this the one that Mr & Mrs Ron Cummings are supposed to be at?
That is going to be quite a tribal family gathering.  ::MonkeyRoll::

hi  ::MonkeyTongue::

Crystal and Marie are going to be there, but I don't think the newlyweds are  ::MonkeyEek::

Good Morning  ::MonkeyCool::

I feel so bad about all the missing and murdered children and adults. I just wish they had someone more reputable and responsible to represent them on a day like today. I guess if my loved one was missing, I would welcome any opportunity to keep them in the media and the memory of people. I just wish it wasn't the likes of Michelle's organization. I wonder just how much money she has make off of these poor families??? I cannot get the vision out of my head of her at the Ritz wheeling and dealing......  ::MonkeyWaa::

hey hun, yes morning nrcg,  almost 3am third night no sleep
I cant wait for the trial, thats my thing.  Whens that happening?  Next year I thought I heard.  Uh oh hubbys up  ::MonkeyShocked::

Cindy in an American flag will make you toss your breakfast . I notice on the NVFH myspace that they have Caylee still listed as missing.

I saw that too  ::MonkeyEek::  and there is also the pic of the little girl letting go of a balloon, Casey had that pic also.

cyas, god bless our lil caylee  ::MonkeyAngel::
I made some posts tonight in my cfs thread in the lounge,  So behind here, but will get a day off on tuesday to read up. 

Good night Lucinda. I hope you can sleep. ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks Klaas, I'm not familiar with the Parker case, how awful ::MonkeyNoNo::

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/05/should-casey-anthony-take-the-stand/

Should Casey Anthony Take the Stand ?
May 17, 2009 by: Express
Or Should Jose Baez Mount a Mental Health Defense to Keep His Client from Exocution?
Casey Anthony’s defense has been the center of much speculation over the months since she was arrested for suspicion of the murder of her 2-year-old missing daughter, Caylee Anthony, in October. Theories of who would be called as witnesses, what could and would be used to thwart the prosecution, and what the overall stategyof defense that would be employed have been the subject of countless news stories and commentaries, blogs and articles. But the most intriguing question has always been: Will Jose Baez put Casey Anthony on the stand?

Tuesday evening, Terence Lenamon told HLN’s Nancy Grace that he and Jose Baez had clashed when discussing strategy for the defense of Casey Anthony prior to the state’s dropping of the death penalty charges and his subsequent dismissal from the defense team. Terence Lenamon, who is considered one of the best death penalty lawyers qualified to try a case in Florida, said that he and Baez disagreed over whether or not a mental-health defense should be used.

It is possibly the main reason why Terence Lenamon was not asked to return to the defense team when the state of Florida decided to pursue again the death penalty against Casey Anthony in mid-April.

According to Richard Hornsby, a defense attorney and analyst for WESH TV, this possibly means that Jose Baez wants to put Casey Anthony on the stand to testify. Hornsby maintains that once put on the stand, the defense is basically saying there is nothing wrong with her, that she knew right from wrong, that there was no mental instability or incapacitance.

Speculation is leaning toward Casey Anthony arguing that Caylee Anthony died accidentally or that she will stand on her story that the mysterious “Zanny the nanny” absconded with the child and later murdered her or caused her death, then disposed of the body near her parents’ home outside Orlando.

WESH’s Bob Kealing said it looked to be an “all or nothing” strategy.WFTV-Channel 9’s legal analyst, Bill Sheaffer, stated that with a mental-health defense, Casey Anthony would have to admit to the crime. Scheaffer believes that Terence Lenamon’s statement on Nancy Grace means that Anthony will continue to push the “Zanny the nanny” story.
But the “Zanny the nanny” story has been problematic from the beginning. Orange County Sheriff’s have yet to find a viable Zenaida Gonzalez, the supposed name of “Zanny the nanny” given authorities by Casey Anthony,

In sworn testimony, not one of her family members or friends admitted to having ever seen the babysitter referred to as “Zanny,” although they had heard her mentioned several times. And the circumstantial fact that someone absconding with a child that had somehow died, by accident or by murder, had brought the child back to within 15 houses of the grandparents’ house to rid themselves of the body, defies all common sense. It is not impossible that they might have done it, but it is a leap that most juries will not take.

The mental-health defense is used in the death penalty phase to keep the defendant from being put to death. But the mental-health defense can only be used as long as Casey Anthony does not take the stand. Once she takes the stand, the defense is telling the jury that their client is mentally competent to testify. If Jose Baez actually puts Casey Anthony on the stand, he will be hoping that the jury either buys an accidental death and fear of prosecution story or a story woven around the idea that someone, “Zanny the nanny” or someone else, took the child and later killed her.

And yet, the mental-health defense is not a true admission of guilt either. Mental-health can be argued as situational and the defense can argue that Casey Anthony was momentarily “not herself” or the victim of a psychotic episode. Given Casey Anthony’s behavior following the disappearance of Caylee Anthony – captured on video, in interviews, and in testimony — she has displayed that she is mentally capable of standing trial. Although the temporary insanity defense is an extreme hard sell to a jury and likely an unwinable defense, it does remain an option for Baez.

It is now only a matter of whether or not Jose Baez will have his client take the stand in her own defense to thwart the state’s mountain of circumstantial evidence against her. Either way, Casey Anthony will have a difficult time establishing innocence. But she does not necessarily have to establish that she is innocent of her daughters murder.Establishing reasonable doubt in the minds of the jurors will no doubt be the goal.

Terence Lenamon did not say that Casey Anthony was guilty, nor did he actually directly say in his appearance on “Nancy Grace” that the prosecutors had the strongest case. But he might as well have said as far back as October that the prosecution already had enough strong evidence, albeit circumstantial, to convict Casey Anthony and that her best defense would have been one where a mental-health defense kept her from a death penalty sentencing, barring that reasonable doubt does not render an acquittal. But no one on the defense team seemed to be listening to Terence Lenamon then and they certainly aren’t listening to him now…Source  Associated Content May 16, 2009 Saul Relative 

Trimm, I didn't want to stack the article you just posted. I don't think that there is a snowball's chance in he77 that Baez didn't ask Lenamon to come back on the team. I think it was Lenamon's good sense that kept him away and refuse. I think he was just trying to cut Bozo a break by saying publicly that Bozo had chosen someone else. JMO

I think that Bozo and Casey both are brazen enough to put Casey on the stand and try to convince the jury that Caylee was kidnapped and murdered. Both of them can let lies slide easily off their tongue. They delude themselves to think that everyone is buying their stories. Both are so used to lying that telling the truth would be alien to them. It is obvious that the Anthonys are trying to convince everyone that someone else did it. Think of Cindy's smirk when Larry King asked her the question. Bozo is leading Casey down that path, and she is sure to follow. I think she thinks she can out think the proscecution and flutter her eyelashes at the jury and fool them all.....I think she is very mistakened. I also think if her trial is televised, there will be a lot more people than me throwing things at their TV's and puters. I am also stocking up on Puff's.....I think we are gonna need them.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I just can not for the life of me see how they can use the accidental death option or the mental health option. Casey was sane enough to cover up what she did for 31 days and lie, lie, lie.....about it. Most people if something accidental happened they would call 911 immediately not carry the body around in the car for days then triple bag it and throw it in the woods. If she overdosed Caylee, in my opinion that is not accidental. The duct tape tells me it was just pure rage that took Caylee's life. I don't see Casey ever admiting what she has done. She only cares about me, me, me. If her car had been stolen, that would have been the end of it and I feel sure that Cindy and George would have helped get her out of the country.

I wasn't either NoRose. Thank you Klaas.

I was going through that area quite frequently during that time, and I would usually read the local papers, and listen to their news. I don't remember a thing about it. How many Gail Parkers are among the lost and murdered! Sad, very sad.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Fanny,I think you are right about Baez and Casey.
I can honestly say the only time I ever saw Casey act concerned was the day that the trunk of the car was being discussed in court.I saw fear that day....briefly.
Baez is letting her believe they can beat this.Otherwise,I don't think it would have gone on this long.They deserve each other.
I can't wait to see what lawyer they bring in to help.  ::MonkeyCool::
I'll be stocking up on stuff to throw at the t.v. too.Anytime I see any of them on t.v. I want to throw something.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
What I really want right now are those documents.  ::MonkeyDevil::
Be back later.I'min the middle of a fierce Pok'emon battle with the grandson.   ::MonkeyDance::
I wonder how many photos Joy will manage to get in at the Vigil?  ::MonkeyRoll::

Lenamon said he " withdrew ".
Now, it is up to Baez to find a qualified attorney as required by Fl laws.
That shouldn't be a difficult task. But there are two things:
a. ) Payment ... this trial will take many hours and where does the money come from ? Casey herself has no money. They have pictures of Caylee, Calyee with Casey and Casey's story told in the first person that would have a high market value. If the declare her indigent and get a public defender, they wouldn't be able to sell these for profit.
 
b. ) Any attorney will have to be united with the defense that Baez wants to mount.
The Zanny the Nanny story has not one thing to back it up. Not one piece of communication, ever. No one ever saw this phantom person, spoke to her or had any communication whatsoever with her. The only person who said Zanny existed also said she had a job and told the rest of the lies.

My contention is that Baez will not be driving this bus much longer. As soon as he makes the announcement as to who the attorney is, we will know what defense tactic they are going to go with.
ps Geragos said that the Peterson trial cost the parents a million. They had owned and operated a succesful business.
 

My son and hubby have discussed making one of those chicken wire cages to go around all the TV's in the house.  A la the BLUES  BROTHERS.  ::MonkeyHaHa::  They have also discussed some kind of muzzle for me. It has gotten really serious around here at times.  ::MonkeyRoll::  I melted a plastic salad spinner one day fixing a salad after a particulary bad day. I pumped that thing so hard......... oh nevermind.   ::MonkeyWaa::  We have a new one now, but I am only allowed to operate it if I am in a good mood.  ::MonkeyRoll::

I think we are long overdue for a really good doc dump. We have worked really hard with all our e-mails......We need to be rewarded.  ::MonkeyDance::

  Scarlett email Klaas and see if she will send you my email address. I don't have a throw away one. Luv you too Scarlett. I like maters with italian dressing.

Thanks Calif, I love that website.

Yes and that is Joy as one of her friends.....dressed all half nekked.   ::MonkeyDevil::

I don't think Baez will be driving the bus much longer either. But if he does stay on, I have to admit that I can't wait to see what the defense is going to be, there is just no way the nanny story could even remotely work. And Fanny Mae I'm afraid to ask how you melted a salad spinner  ::MonkeyEek:: But I could tell stories of things I've done.......  ::MonkeyRoll::

Well, I'll have to go back and check, I some how missed that  ::MonkeyEek::

Afternoon Monkeys. JSM just got home from Mass a while ago. It was First Holy Communion for 4 little kids. I couldn't help think how much their parents love them and their family and friends were so proud. It made me think that Caylee will never be able to have a "day" be it First Communion, first dance, first date, prom, wedding, etc. It also made me very sad that Caylee has no one that love her and are proud of her in her family. Only Monkeys cherish that poor baby.  ::MonkeyWaa:: JMO JSM

Under community partners, there is a picture of Alison Arngrim who played Nellie Olsen on Little House on the Prairie, but I can't find Joy's pic, I guess I'll have to settle for Nellie  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyRoll::

Hey ya everyone!

NoRose, I would not doubt that the little girl used in the "mall sighting" could be Joy's daughter - nothing would shock me.  I actually passed on that possibility, I have no idea if that was followed up on.   I did point out that Joy was at the "Meet & Greet" November 15th that Michelle Bart arranged thru KFN for the Anthonys.    Now I see that nutjob is showing a boat she used to search for Caylee - I cannot even click on her chat without getting revolted...that title of her claiming to love Caylee is just too twisted for me to tolerate.   We all care for Caylee a great deal but I'm not sure any of us can claim that we love her as we never knew her.   If we think about it symbolically we can say comfortably that we care & love the innocence of any child & stand for them but she takes it to a level that is demented - too bad she isnt focused on what is best for her own children as she remains obsessed with this case & her own mental health issues that must be making a negative impact on them.
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Hmmm...Casey brazen enough to insist on being put on the stand at trial, I'd say possibly.  Bozo being stupid enough to do so, absofrigginlutely - actual chance of it happening Id say depends on the strength of evidence in the State's case against her that we may not be aware of yet.  We've already witnessed Casey's demeanor & we've heard her attempt to attack others to save herself.   Think about her statements she has already made, they will come back to bite her HARD.    She is cocky enough, think about when she made that sworn affidavit making that crack about State Prosecutor Ashton or after she was arrested upon her murder one indictment how she questioned a "leak" that the Grand Jury convened or when she made several statements against detectives, to me it exhibits a person with no remorse or accountability but one that is very calculated & attempting to get away with murder.

She has stated that LE refused to listen to her, well she lied and then lied about her lies....her statement at Universal "because I lied" will ring true no matter how hard she goes for an Oscar performance at trial.  I have no doubt that she would love to have all eyes on her as she pokes her eyes to force tears & whine all the day long to explain why she is such a pathetic victim to excuse her behavior...let's not forget the Menendez brothers, in the end they were convicted.  She thinks she is clever - she is far from it.   She thinks she is fooling people but her attitude and body language doesn't lie for her like her mouth does, I say let her assist in getting a conviction.

Any half way decent lawyer would know not to put a client like her on the stand, if she insists and throws a hissy fit, put her on, the prosecution will rip her to shreds. I for one would love to hear what nonsense she would spew.  ::MonkeyEek::

Exactly!   Nonsense being the key word  ::MonkeyWink::   Even if she plays the victim to her mother's iron fist, bottom line - Casey knows the difference between right & wrong, she also had options like all of us have in life she could have taken that did not include killing an innocent babygirl - to me that is the bottom line.

Yikes,I'm sorry NoRose,it was Jon Whynock(sang Cindy's written song at "Caylee's"vigil)myspace.....link below.Scroll down on the right where friends are and you see Joy in a red,silky....ummm....bustier?lol
Click on Joy's name and it goes to one of her myspaces.
But I figured that if Joy knows the Anthony's and knows Jon who sang for the Anthony's and is singing Caylee's song at Michelle Bart's vigils.....Joy must also know Michelle.

http://www.myspace.com/jonwhynock

I'm sure Joy knows Michelle either in reality or in her own reality  ::MonkeyRoll:: I don't think she will be at the vigil she is having a birthday party for her oldest daughter.

Today I just watched the part of Caylee's memorial where Jon sings Caylee's song and at the end of the song,there was ole slore mama(with a big mik in her hand)saying"goodbye Caylee Marie"......I truly hate phony Cindy as much as I do phony George,Lee and slore.Cindy thinks she's a dang star or something......I hope she hears Caylee's voice singing to her every night so she never sleeps again on this beautiful earth.

Me too, and you can bet Cindy will have the mik today for the vigil, that's a guarantee. ::MonkeyEek::

I dunno know how anyone could LOVE a kiddo they never saw in the flesh.
Sure she was a cutie pie, so is every little kiddo in my eyes.
I am wondering if my dislike of the Anthonys and Casey herself is what is driving me.
I am not an unfeeling person but enough of the songs and tributes. Caylee's claime to fame is that she was murdered by her mother and her Grandparents helped out afterwards.
And the mother has hired the most idiotic laywer who ever came on tv to defend his odious client. Linda Kenny Baden is a hoot too.

The smartest thing the press can do is not cover this event in the slightest - doubtful that will happen because the media often clouds newsworthy versus buzz.   What is most disturbing is that the Anthonys (nor their camp) did not take a hint to leave Satsuma since its been reported that members of Haleigh's family plan on attending in Orlando - ugh!

Marie and Crystal will be at the vigil, they will also be on Geraldo tonight  ::MonkeyEek::

I refuse to look! The thought of Joy haff nekked is more than I can take today.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I went outside in a hurry and forgot to log off.  My son helped us plant the last of the roses so we are really done.   ::MonkeyDance::

Now why did you go and do that!  OMG!!! My eyes!!!! And I only have 3 beers in the house!!!  I just had to look..... ::MonkeyWaa::

I see she had her usual stringy retro hairdo.  ::MonkeyRoll::

JSM, I am glad you got to see the little children receive Holy Communion for the first time.  Capp and CatGram were talking about loving a child we have never seen and I think you hit the right word on the head. Cherish. I think that is what we feel is we cherish Caylee and the memory of her.  We have empathy and sympathy for her and what she went through and wish that she didn't have to endure it. I think that is the thing makes us want to see Casey get everything that is coming to her, in spades. I hope that the people that aided, and abetted in any way get their just due too. JMO

NoRose, you know Joy is very creative. She will just have the birthday party at the vigil.   ::MonkeyRoll::

No Rose ...I think she said she was having the party yesterday and today was her birthday. She is asking for trouble with putting her childs name and birthdate on the internet. Not a good idea with all the RSO's in that area.

She is so sickening.I can't wait to see Cindy and George in the witness chair at trial.....if it goes to trial.I want to see them on that stand more than I want to see slore on the stand.

Yep,Chrystal(Haleigh's Mama)and Marie(Haleigh's GMama)are supposed to speak at the vigil.They both have a good reason for being there,the Anthony's do not.

Much like the Anthonys, just because one constantly puts their faces in the camera or "appears" to be making efforts to find a missing child doesn't necessarily mean they care more, are speaking the truth or who are not trying to work towards a hidden agenda.  Somehow I knew it would be the Sheffield side, sorry but I feel the agenda on that side is obvious & no doubt Kim Piczio will appear on Whoraldo yet again to prove my point.  Some may disagree with me on this issue & I rarely comment on this case out of utter frustration but despite the fact that BOTH sides of Haleigh's family has major flaws, issues & criminal backgrounds there is one side that started & has continued to cloud the main focus constantly more out of a vendetta rather than Haleigh's well being & whereabouts, also seemingly now doing the "one upsmenship" in appearance - some of us are capable of seeing right thru the muck.    Frankly, I don't have much to say that is positive about Ron, Crystal, Misty & their extended families, they all are a hot mess to say the least.   I empathize as I always do that another child has been victimized but the Hatfield vs McCoy aspect of this case should never have been a forefront issue while we don't have the answers as to what happened to Haleigh. 

I was questioning myself the last few days exactly why I was so drawn to this child and what I came up with is probably what everyone else here has concluded.

She was cute kid...but, as CatGram said...so are all of the little toddlers out there (not to mention how adorable my own GC are).  No, to me it was because nobody stood up and shouted outrage that her life was stolen from her.  No tears, no anger, no demanding justice...nothing from ANYBODY that was SUPPOSED TO LOVE HER ...and then the stories about the money the GP's and her defense were making off of her.  Then my outrage, my tears, my determination and my demanding justice rose up and will stay till there is JUSTICE for her.  And I am so grateful that we are together with this mission.  

Perhaps ShroomHead and PoopyFace will one day 'get it'...and know what 'unconditional' love really is and isn't.  Unconditional love means that you have enough love to make your child accountable for their actions...teach them to tell the truth....be compassionate...loving....and a giver instead of a taker.  None of which the is in the A's vocabulary.

I would not put that past her, after all it is a Circus....what better place for a childs party?

LOL....it's just a pic of Joy in a red,silky thing that seems like 2 sizes too small or something as she is falling out of it.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Hahaha....so sorry Fannie   ::MonkeyDevil::

Fanny, I am too glad I got to see their First Communion. I really didn't want to go there, but I am glad I did. I don't love Caylee in the sense that I knew her, held her, etc. I love her mostly because she is a creation from God. She wasn't KC's creation to throw out into the woods. She was God's creation, just as much as you, KatGram, the little girl with cerebral palsy today and all Monkeys are wonderful creations from God. I hope this makes total sense. TIA JSM   

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::  Good one.   ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Very well said BluesyGram.

Thanks Bluesy, what I just highlighted in red is what I have been trying to say, it just comes out inarticulately. Thanks for speaking my thoughts. JSM

Another thing...has anyone heard anything from Jennifer D'ofrio (sp)??  Do you think our letter writing campaign after the boat fiasco 'exclusive' worked? 

Oh, and how about Geradass and Bozo's love affair...do you think our letters to Fox and Sponsors cooled that off?

Thanks JSM and Karma for your comments...and all our Monkeys for all you do.

You are welcome. Thanks for saying what my mind wants to say my fingers just cant seem to type.

Maybe their love affair has cooled off or Fox realized with the LKL fiasco, no Anthonys nor their attorneys including Baez should have air time. Not good for ratings. JMO JSM

Just call me your 'DittoHead' Capp.  I don't usually get to comment on your posts because someone else usually has said what I would have said and then mine just would be redundant (eat your heart out Tevye for the run-on sentence mastery here)  So you can just end your posts with...'Ditto, signed BG.'

So what we have here are RELATIVES WITH AN AGENDA...just like the A's and of course the huge skeletons in the closet.  In other words, disasters waiting to happen in both families only with a little different twist.  So sad that the 'disaster' had to be the children IMO.  And the third comparison are the cockroaches drawn to the mess....for their own money/fame advantage.

Cockroaches!!!! Perfect description.  ::MonkeyDevil::

Prayers are going up right now.   ::MonkeyAngel::

I was channel surfing last night and paused on the Geraldo show long enough to see what his line-up was, and it was all subjects that had been covered all week- Miss California, yadayada.  I'd be surprised if he has much of an audience.

Thanks Fanny, we were supposed to go to Mass together today and I got the text. I feel so badly for her. She is such a young little girl to be going through this.

Not sure about Jennifer. I haven't seen another "exclusive" in a while.

Bozo hasn't been on Geraldo's show for a while. He probably is afraid to leave town again to go to New York. The Anthonys might actually try to sneak in and see Casey.  ::MonkeyRoll::

If you notice, Jennifer has not been on NG lately either.  NG got irritated with her one night when she was talking about Cindy this, Cindy that- NG asked her "Just how long have you been on first name terms with her' in a VERY stern manner.  You could see D'Onofrio was upset...

I was just thinking, if Zenaida gets the $15,000 she is suing for, maybe Casey will have to give up her snack habit and drain her jail account to pay her.
Maybe George and Cindy will have to get a job. Maybe they'll sell the boat.

But they'd probably just go bankrupt to avoid paying her....   I saw where they were contemplating bankruptcy, I'm sure that's part of the reason.  Slimy people..

If there is anyway crooked to do something, I am sure they have their plans already in the cooker. They don't miss a trick. They are slicker that owl chit when it comes to "their" money.

D'Onofrio lost me on the overtly fawning piece she did with Spindy when the grieving grandmother was plopped on the floor gazing at the teddy bear by Caylee's bed. I'll bet Spindy had $$$ signs in her eyes as she looked at that bear. She had probably already hatched the plot to sell bears for one of her money raising ventures.  ::MonkeyRoll::

Just got back from the store, thought I'd see pics of the vigil already  ::MonkeyRoll::

I was just looking to see what time it is. It is at 7PM. I noticed there was going to be events in Leesburg and Lake Mary. I wonder which one the Anthony's & Joy will be making their appearance attending tonight? You don't suppose they are going to let Spindy sing, do you?  ::MonkeyRoll::

I wish one of our Monkeys who have an 'in' with Hal or Kathi Belich would ask about where she is.  You are right about the NG smackdown...NG has had enough of that just like us.  Notice she hasn't even been on JVM either.  If she is gone or reassigned..I am sure that our letters (plus the residents of Orlando) had something to do with it.  It is as if she has disappeared as none of the written articles are attributed to her either.

As to the lawsuit by ZG...I think the A's homeowner's insurance would cover that as BitchyBritches was a resident there.  Morgan & Mitnik just filed a petition to go for punitive damages...so the 15G could end up being lots more....I hope she gets millions myself.  She could get that judgement thing going just like the Goldman's have against OJ.  (BTW, the Goldmans own the rights to OJ's book 'If I Did It'.  And then she would have to have a 'watchdog' to grab any monies (go to court) as they try to hide it.  Personally, since ShroomHead 'publicized' the Zaneida Gonzalez name and furthered the tainting of her name more...I think she should have been included in the suit, but am certain M&M know what they are doing and would have if they could.

  

I e-mail pretty regularly with Hal. I will send an e-mail and see what he's got to say.

I think Zaneida deserves something from the Anthonys too. Besides smearing her name, she had to endure hours of sitting there and listening to their awful depos with Spindy and George making faces at her. I'm sure that was almost as bad as seeing all the bad publicity about her. I'm sure it was all she could do to keep from leaping out of her chair and bopping Spindy in her gum smacking mouth.  ::MonkeyDevil::

How would their homeowners Insurance cover a lawsuit for Slander?
If she was physically injured on their property it might, but I don't know how it would cover this event.....

Is it just me..or is Joy's head on another body...I never realized she was so busty..I always thought of her as an average sized person..her face is the same..but the rest looks heavy set.

I thought the same thing DD. But I took a fast look and I am not going back in.  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyWaa::

Awws BG

She is just itching to sing you could see that at the memorial, I can't believe that I didn't know she wrote the lyrics to Caylee's Song, until I heard it on LKL  ::MonkeyEek::

Very well said Bluesy.I agree.

Speaking of Zeneida & Cindy, too bad Zeneida couldnt overcome her shock with Cindy's rudeness & deplorable behavior during the deposition.   When Cindy said "sorry,  you're cute but you're not a 10" I would have lost it on her sorry @$$, or at least quipped back that she was a gum chewing swine with an ugliness befitting her ugly soul.    Can you guys just hear a "O no you didn't!"  I am still flabbergasted on how proud Cindy was of being that snarky & callous...what made it worse was it was so rehearsed.   Cindy may have not been able to avoid Casey being a sociopath but she sure did create the perfect atmosphere for it to manifest into a diabolic outcome.

Thanks Fanny Mae...he would know I am sure.  

M&M need to remind people & the judge about ZG's children having to endure badgering at school.  ZG said in one of her interviews that the kids at school were yelling at her kids...'tell you mama to give that little girl back' and 'your mama's a kidnapper (or something like that).  That must have been awful for them.

Ditto Capp  ::MonkeyWink::

I'm with you Capp.I would of been smackdown 2009.  ::MonkeyDevil:: Cindy still wouldn't be chewing gum...... you know with the wires in her jaws and all.  ::MonkeyCool::

She really does think she is a celebrity doesn't she?  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I hear that...she'd be dialing 1-800-dentist

Poor kids. Growing up is hard enough.  ::MonkeyWaa::

ZG had one of her sons with her for the depos. I don't know if they allowed him to sit with his mom or not. I hope he was able to sit with her and hold her hand, although I am sure that for him it would have been hard for him to hear. He looked like a pretty good size young man too and proud of his mom. Those kids deserve something too. This couldn't have been easy for any of them. It is amazing how far Casey's venom has spread, and how willing the Anthonys are to assist her. JMO

OK monkeys I must get ready for the Survivor finale & some yummie fried chicken for din...I'll probably check in on the late side.   Have a fabulous & relaxing evening, hopefully this week we will get the long awaited document release...I'll start the week of with a "doc dump" dance as I head out(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/mslaitte/MUSIC-DANCE/MJdanceMINI.gif)

'Nite Capp.
I'm going to chill out too. After having the grandson for 3 days,I played out,snacked out,and glad I got him.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Justice For Caylee   ::MonkeyAngel::

Very cool, Capp!!

You have a relaxing evening as well  ::MonkeyCool::

Ditto.

And don't forget the part about Sindy saying that if ZG wouldn't have gone on TV for an interview...this would have all blown over for her.  Well, by that time ZG had lost her job, was living in Motel-fricken-6 with her kids ..and was trying to 'clear' her name in the media...where it all started.  What else was she to do at that point?  How helpless & hopeless she must have felt by then.

It was probably for the best that ZG didn't smack Sindy though...let M&M do it to her where it hurts...her pocketbook.  And it sure did expose the A's for everyone to get to see the side that we knew was there all along.  

Wonder if Sindy saw our comparison of her and the Grinch and that is why she stopped wearing green?  I sure hope so...makes my tummy flutter like butterflys with that thought.

I'm sure you are tired, I know I would be also, have a nice evening  ::MonkeyCool::

You know I could absolutely not pass up a chance for a re-run!!!

(http://i715.photobucket.com/albums/ww157/Fannymae65/MrsGrinch-1.jpg)

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Nite Cappy and Trimm!

BBL, going to eat dinner.  ::MonkeyTongue::

Thanks so much Fanny Mae....I love it and I hope she sees it every day.

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

Nite monkeys. JSM is going away from the cage today. I need a rest.  ::MonkeyWaa:: I have nothing to add tonight so I am going to watch tv and go to bed. Please if you find it i your heart, pray for me. Thanks to all. JSM

Of course I will and try to have a good evening. ::MonkeyAngel::

Evening All Monkeys,

I have a question and I apologize if this has already been discussed. Today I was reading a newspaper article and it stated something that I had not really thought about much until now. The reporter stated that on the LK show Cindy replied to one of the questions about why KC didn't report her daughter missing for over 30 days and Cindy's reply was something about KC's way of coping and grieving. Now is it just me or did Cindy maybe slip up.....GRIEVING??? To me, coping is one thing but GRIEVING.....that is what you do over the death of a loved one. I think that was a real clue that the Ant's know what really happened. JMO. ::MonkeyCool::

Hi Monkeys! I know this has been said before, but for as outspoken as CA is, and all the anger she's shown towards the media, LE, and sloggers (sad bloggers) why is she not showing this same anger towards Caylees "killer"? If she truly believes it wasn't KC, how come she's not screaming from the rooftops that she's going to find and bring Caylees killer to justice? Instead she's angry that KC's even being accused and it's the media & LE's fault. She's been on camera screaming at protestors & the media, but why hasn't she got in front of the camera to say to Caylee's killer (especially since she know's the "killers" name), "We're gonna hunt you down and find you and give our Caylee justice"? Has she done that, and I just missed it? I've never seen her scream in anger at the supposed killer (whom she claimed to have her phone #), just her anger towards everyone else.

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I heard that too. I think she had rehearsed that "ugly coping" crap that Bozo was trying to make fly. Of course I believe that Cindy knew Caylee was gone shortly after her 911 call. Between the time of the call until the first patrol car rolled up they got the truth out of Casey. Lee was telling the truth about Cindy running in the room and asking "What did you do?" When they realized what she did, it was "Who took her?" Cindy was quick on her feet because she has dealt with Casey for years. She was already planning the coverup. I despise them all. JMO

Thank you Red. Good to see you! ::MonkeyDance::

Looks like the Anthony's were in Lake Mary tonight.
http://www.wesh.com/news/19487742/detail.html

Vigil Held For Missing Haleigh Cummings
Caylee Anthony's Grandparents Attend Evening Vigil
POSTED: 8:26 pm EDT May 17, 2009
UPDATED: 8:34 pm EDT May 17, 2009


LAKE MARY, Fla. -- It's been more than three months since 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings disappeared from her home in Putnam County.

Sunday night, friends and supporters of Haleigh's family were in Central Florida for a vigil in the missing child's honor.

Video

Her family has been pleading for the public's help in finding the girl, but keeping constant media attention on Haleigh and many other missing children has proven difficult for families nationwide.

That's why there's a group called the National Coalition to Bring Awareness to Missing Children and Adults that has chosen to have an annual event at locations throughout the country to spotlight these cases.

The group picked Lake Mary because of it's proximity for committee members, as opposed to Satsuma, where Haleigh disappeared from.

Her biological mother, Crystal Sheffield, was scheduled to speak.

In March, Sheffield said on WESH 2 News, "Haleigh, if you're watching, I love you and I miss you."

Haleigh's father's side of the family did not attend, but slain toddler Caylee Anthony's grandparents, Cindy and George Anthony, were there.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

JSM, if you are reading, I left you a message on the prayer thread.  ::MonkeyAngel::

If Spindy thought there was "someone" out there that had really killed Caylee, she would be on them with her baseball bat.  It would be a hunt for the kill with her. She is so transparent!

I wonder what kind of spectacle Cindy made of herself tonight with George standing there looking like he'd like to be anywhere else that there? I'm sure we will see it on the 11 o'clock news.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

That's exactly what I thought! If she truly knew that someone else killed Caylee (ZG) she'd be livid and personally hunting her down. I haven't seen nor heard anything like that from her, just her anger towards everyone else.

I just posted this on the Haleigh thread from a member of WS who attended the vigil this is what she said.   This is a comment from a poster at WS who was at the vigil    Originally Posted by BreatheLife21 
went to the vigil at Lake Mary .
I saw Crystal ,Marie and the baby
Marie and Crystal spoke ,but Crystal really broke down when she spoke.
all of the local news was there , but not a lot of people.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: It is so sad that Haleigh has been gone so long.  ::MonkeyWaa::

You can call into Dana's show and get Robin Sax book ... who's gonna call first!!!

I mean email Dana first.

Just as well Zenaida is not as violent or crude as Cindy.
I can only imagine what she's going through- living in a Motel 6 with 4 kids and a minimum wage job. How on earth does anyone cope with that? Then to be publicly insulted again by the person who has slandered you...   I hope she gets everything they own.
Well everything that hasn't been stolen by Casey or George.

IMO...Sindy was tripping over her lies again.  She was trying to match what she thinks is Bozo's latest defense theory...the ugly coping...but then she throws in the 'grieving'.  Maybe because it was Bozo's idea..that is a stupid idea to her anyway.

Just like when she was yelling at the reporters one day that Caylee wasn't out in the woods...totally out of context to what she was yaking about.  Interesting that is exactly where Caylee was.

Then the report about KC's reaction in the jail on Dec. 11..and the A's eating crab puffs.  Obviously, the A's were hiding out in order to regroup and restategize and KC's reaction was 'oh sh*t...the gig is up'.

There is a You Tube about the 'Freudian Slips' from Sindy that is pretty good.

the A's showing up at Haleigh's vigil makes me sick....they are trying to get on camera again as the grieving  grand parents....parents....

I totally agree with y'all.  Sindy likes to make out like the popo took KC right after they arrived and that they didn't have much time w/KC after that.  That isn't true because they brought her back home after the Universal tour and the Old Folks Home tour.

They had all night and the next AM.  Remember when she was trying to insinuate that LE stole KC's lanyard w/the Universal ID attached?  She made a point of how Lee or she was with KC at all times..so KC wouldn't have had an opportunity to have taken it.  They made a Facebook Page, MySpace Page, sent out text messages, sat in the garage doorway talking w/Lee, etc.  Sindy and Lee just about got the WHOLE story that night ..no doubt about it.

And about that question...'What have you done?'   They had to know that KC took her anger out on THINGS..(that's what Caylee was to them..a thing..not a precious child).  KC reminds me of that eerie movie, "Children Of The Corn"..where all the adults dance around the children and say 'happy' things or the kids will make them disappear.

I am going to the monkey bunky early tonight. I will pray for all my friends who are hurting and need prayers. Of course, I will pray for all the families of missing and murdered souls. I will pray for my garden and everyone elses tonight that are facing a frost. I know God answers prayers, so I am praying prayers are being answered and people and animals are being comforted. I guess it wouldn't hurt if I pray for a doc dump. I also pray that Caylee gets justice.

Nite ya'll. God bless.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Nite Fanny...rest up.  Tomorrow you will get to go outside and admire all of your handiwork.  Wonder is the A's ever take time to smell the flowers.  And it is comforting to know KC never will.

Cookie..it makes me ill also.  The article said they had it in Lake Mary (which is right outside of Orlando) instead of Satsuma where Haleigh is from, because it was more convienient for their people.  Of course, you know it was because of the Stars, the Assanthony's.  Yeah, make the family of a MISSING CHILD travel and hour and a half each way...the Asses are much too busy w/their appearances.

Blah

Hi Monkeys!!!

Did somebody say earlier that Cindy and Casey were exchanging clothes?   ::MonkeyEek::


EEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!    ::MonkeyShocked::

Oh my goodness!!  CBB, now we are going to have to put you in the Witness Protection Program or something to shield you from her wrath!!!

The Anthony family has tainted what I think of the familes of other missing children.
I find / found myself looking at their motives after .. like, how much can they make off of this ?  Can a person retire by selling pictures of a dead grandaughter ?
Baez and Baden ( the him and the her ) have made me question expert testimony for a fee or for face time on tv. I guess juries might wonder about these things too. The State's experts get a salary and would not be considered to be making extra off the hoopla.
I want a doc dump and I want to see Lenny P deliver a knockout punch this week.
Goodnite all. Went to see Angels and Demons earlier .. go see it .. great movie  . way way
better than the book. Holiday tomorrow, going to the track ..  ( pony rides ! )  Oh I am so excited, ponies !

You've done it with this.  Now I have to go change my Depends.

This is the link for the Org. that is hosting the vigil I think.  When I looked, there was no link to NLHF, Caylee nor Kashfinders.  Couldn't get any details from any of the news sites about how many attended or anything, but one of the did say G&A were there ...no other details though.


http://nationalvigilforhope.org/

Had to log in to let everyone know that I won Robin Sax's book on Dana's show tonight.  Am so excited.  Can't wait to get it.


Thanks Dana
Thanks Robin
Thanks Red & Klaasend

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

imaflagal- excellent catch!  Was planning to lurk a few, but had to log in when I saw your post.  That's using your brain!  GREAT (in my best Kelloggs Tony the Tiger voice) job!

BluesyGram-I'm sorry!  I didn't mean to post inside your post.  Way too tired to type straight.  I am sorry!

Sorry to post this first thing in the morning...frankly it made me sick to my stomach

Vigil Held For Missing Haleigh Cummings
Caylee Anthony's Grandparents Attend Evening Vigil

POSTED: 8:26 pm EDT May 17, 2009
UPDATED: 8:34 pm EDT May 17, 2009

LAKE MARY, Fla. -- It's been more than three months since 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings disappeared from her home in Putnam County.

Sunday night, friends and supporters of Haleigh's family were in Central Florida for a vigil in the missing child's honor.

http://www.wesh.com/video/19487471/index.html

Her family has been pleading for the public's help in finding the girl, but keeping constant media attention on Haleigh and many other missing children has proven difficult for families nationwide.

That's why there's a group called the National Coalition to Bring Awareness to Missing Children and Adults that has chosen to have an annual event at locations throughout the country to spotlight these cases.

The group picked Lake Mary because of it's proximity for committee members, as opposed to Satsuma, where Haleigh disappeared from.

Her biological mother, Crystal Sheffield, was scheduled to speak.

In March, Sheffield said on WESH 2 News, "Haleigh, if you're watching, I love you and I miss you."

Haleigh's father's side of the family did not attend, but slain toddler Caylee Anthony's grandparents, Cindy and George Anthony, were there.
http://www.wesh.com/news/19487742/detail.html

Families of Caylee and
Haliegh gather

Updated: Sunday, 17 May 2009, 11:07 PM EDT
Published : Sunday, 17 May 2009, 11:07 PM EDT

    * VALERIE BOEY | FOX 35 News

LAKE MARY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - Sunday night marked the nationwide "Vigil of Hope" for missing children. In Lake Mary, two grieving families attended a vigil in a show of support from one mother to another.

The bond Cindy Anthony and Crystal Sheffield share is a pain deep inside that only those who have a missing child can feel.

"It brought back more emotion than I anticipated, but that emotion's all right because that's how we help other people."

While George and Cindy Anthony still mourn the death of their granddaughter Caylee Marie, they spoke at the vigil to make people aware of missing children nationwide. "Coping with someone missing is the most gut wrenching, sick open wound feeling that you could ever have."

Haleigh Cummings grandmother, Marie Griffith agrees. "I can't explain to you the hurt right here. It's right here aching constantly."

Marie's daughter, Crystal, is devastated. It has been nearly three months since her daughter Haleigh was reported missing. "Whoever has her, I know you're watching. Please bring her home. Haleigh I love you. I won't ever give up on you." Seconds later, Crystal started to collapse.

Cindy knew exactly what to do. "I've been there. People have put chairs underneath me many times."

Marie said it hasn't been easy. "She falls apart. She can't take the stress. It's awful."

That's why Haleigh's family is glad to have help from Caylee's family. "It means a lot. It means a lot. I didn't know anyone was going to be here other than us."

Marie added that she has been frustrated with the dying media coverage. She also wished investigators would do more to find Haleigh.

O really Cindy, you didnt look for your granddaughter you lying POS - good God would someone hammer her head and shake her stupid tree she knows dang well Caylee was never missing but killed within 24 hours she last fought with Casey.  O my God make her stop!!! Can you just imagine the advice she gave Crystal...I shutter at the thought, that girl doesnt need any further dysfunction & bitter banter.   If you ask me Cindy knows she can manipulate her, that's why she's at her side.

Besides these two articles not much was reported on this event thus far- reports are very few attended.

CBB!! EEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

CBB - that was a scary pic to wake up to - but on the up side - don't need coffee to wake up!    ::MonkeyEek::

Good Morning Monkeys and guests!   ::MonkeyAngel::

I'm with you, Theboysmom. My son was in the shower and heard my yelp with shock and surprise at the vision of Spindy. He came running out half wrapped in a towel to see if I was ok. I am not sure I am yet...  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

CBB, You have out done anything I could have imagined!!!!  ::MonkeyDance::

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ISPY:
Reading this post made me think about the story we heard (many archived threads ago) about KC calling Cindy from a party, all upset because the birthday girl was getting all the attention and how Cindy allegedly went off on the host mom.  Isn't that exactly what we saw in these depos.  It's all about Cindy's precious (sarcasm) daughter KC and Cindy truly doesn't care who she destroys in the process.  She's vicious.  I was honestly surprised that Cindy didn't physically go after John Morgan in some form, as he chiseled away at her version of the "truth".  Is it any wonder KC is the way she is? 

Me too, Ispy. She certainly went after him verbally at the end with her using her profane discription of him and her crack about him saying she shouldn't pray. Mr Morgan was polite to a fault with her, even when he was saying "That's the way you like it" over and over to her. That had to be the best line of the day at the depos. I cannot even begin to imagine how she acts behind closed doors.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I so agree Capp.  Cindy will participate in anything that can garner future
publicity (gravy train) anything is o. k. with Cindy as long as she has some control.

How sickening that she has to insert herself into any incident garnering sympathy for another.  i. e.  Crystal's collapse - i. e,. George's (so-called) suicide attempt.  Georgie can't have his suicide attempt nor can a Mother of a lost child have her collapse without that horrible woman trying to one-up them. 
Cindy is beyond disgusting!!!
She brings out the worst in me and I wait for her comeuppance!

 

OK, Monkeys, it is time to wake up and get in the cage!!!!

Trimm!! I am not used to being in here before you!

O/T I was mad at the weatherman on the local news last night, because he said we were going to have frost. We covered all the new plants. When I got up this morning it was 40 degrees and I thought it was all for nothing. But when it was daylight enough, I saw frost on the garage roof. I am giving a prayer of thanks this morning.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Good morning Monkeys! ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyAngel::

I so appreciate all your brilliant research and opinions.

Katgram - have a great day at the races ::MonkeyDance::

Can and Capp, I agree with you both. I have never seen a time when Spindy looked like she needed a chair slipped under her. I, on the otherhand, have felt like throwing a chair at her a time or two. Or three.  ::MonkeyRoll::
The only time I ever saw her in the chair-slipping stage was in the imfamous Michelle Bart news conference when she looked way over medicated. Spindy is not the fainting type!! She is so busy snarling and snapping at the news cameras and people trying to help her that she doesn't have time to get the "vapors." JMO

We need a doc dump.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Good Morning Monkeys.
I just woke up and the first thing I saw was CBB's post. ::MonkeyDevil::
Wait til CC see's that.  ::MonkeyDance::

Now,what about those documents? ::MonkeyCool::

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/05/families-of-caylee-and-haleigh-gather/
Families of Caylee and Haleigh Gather
May 18, 2009 by: Express

 

Casey Anthony May 18 Update:
How long will this misrepresentation from the Anthonys continue?   “If it’s not Legit, You must Quit”

LAKE MARY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - Sunday night marked the nationwide “Vigil of Hope” for missing children. In Lake Mary, two grieving families attended a vigil in a show of support from one mother to another.

The bond Cindy Anthony and Crystal Sheffield share is a pain deep inside that only those who have a missing child can feel.

“It brought back more emotion than I anticipated, but that emotion’s all right because that’s how we help other people.”

While George and Cindy Anthony still mourn the death of their granddaughter Caylee Marie, they spoke at the vigil to make people aware of missing children nationwide. “Coping with someone missing is the most gut wrenching, sick open wound feeling that you could ever have.”

Haleigh Cummings grandmother, Marie Griffith agrees. “I can’t explain to you the hurt right here. It’s right here aching constantly.”

Marie’s daughter, Crystal, is devastated. It has been nearly three months since her daughter Haleigh was reported missing. “Whoever has her, I know you’re watching. Please bring her home. Haleigh I love you. I won’t ever give up on you.” Seconds later, Crystal started to collapse.

Cindy knew exactly what to do. “I’ve been there. People have put chairs underneath me many times.”

Marie said it hasn’t been easy. “She falls apart. She can’t take the stress. It’s awful.”

That’s why Haleigh’s family is glad to have help from Caylee’s family. “It means a lot. It means a lot. I didn’t know anyone was going to be here other than us.”

Marie added that she has been frustrated with the dying media coverage. She also wished investigators would do more to find Haleigh. Fox 35 News Sunday, 17 May 2009, 11:07 PM EDT Article Source Here

Trimm
Who said if it's not legit you must quit? . . . I like it!

I'm not sure,but I like it too.

Photo Gallery from vigil
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/051709vigilforhope/indexGallery.htm

Way to go Bluesy.   ::MonkeyDance::

while reading about Cindy and George at Haleigh's vigil..I almost upchucked my cinnamon toast! bahhhhhh...
those 2 have a lot of nerve invading another child's vigil imo...

Thank you! ::MonkeyAngel::

I agree.
I'd love to give Cindy a chair...... I'll leave it at that.

Gotta have that spotlight on them.They should be ashamed.

these pictures make me sick! Cindy and George have their beaks in every picture possible...
ggrrrr!!!

double ggrrr!!!   

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19490260/detail.html

Caylee, Haleigh Families Lead Vigil
George, Cindy Anthony Speak At National Vigil Of Hope

POSTED: Monday, May 18, 2009
UPDATED: 8:19 am EDT May 18, 2009

LAKE MARY, Fla. -- The families of Caylee Anthony and Haleigh Cummings teamed up Sunday to help raise awareness of missing people throughout Central Florida.
George and Cindy Anthony, the grandparents of Caylee, joined Crystal Sheffield and Marie Griffis, the mother and grandmother of Haleigh, and dozens of other people at Lake Mary City Hall for a national vigil of hope.

The foursome pointed out that 2,300 people are reported missing nationwide every day.

"Even though we don't have Haleigh here at this moment, I know in my heart that (God) is going to bring her back to us," Griffis said.

"Coping with someone missing is the most gut-wrenching, sick, open-wound feeling you can ever, ever have," George Anthony said.

"To the Trenton Ducket family: do not give up hope. To the Zachrary Bernhart family: do not give up home," said Cindy Anthony, referring to the families of other missing children.

A similar gathering was held in Leesberg by the family of Trenton, who disappeared in 2006.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.

Video:Caylee,Haleigh Families Lead Vigil.  http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19490173/index.html

And George knows this HOW?  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused:: his grand daughter was never missing...thanks to his daughter...if she really had been kidnapped and was missing, perhaps she would have had a chance...more than she had with her own mother!

Exactly..Cindy knew this depo was being taped and that it would be released to the media immediately for all the world to see.  And what does she do...acts like a totally junatic and horse's hindend.   One can only imagine what she says and does when no cameras or tape recorders are rolling...I can't imagine living each day of my life with that kind of anger and resentment..all of it misplaced...

me too...only not the chair that Cindy had in mind...won't be some cushy recliner... ::MonkeyWink::

OOOPS!  Should have been lunatic.not junatic...lol.

I do believe that Lenny will still be able to give his depo tomorrow if the other court case is held in the late afternoon ..which I believe happened before..it shouldn't take too long for the judge to say No Way..in this case. Especially since Casey's lawyer has yet to make an appearance any of the depos.

After reading that article about the vigil, yes we better get some kind of doc dump, before I break this computer  ::MonkeyRoll:: Cindy never needed no chair slipped under her before she collapsed. What I wish would have been done on several occasions is when Cindy was attempting to sit down, someone would have pulled the chair away, and she would have fallen on her sorry sad a$$  ::MonkeyEek:: My gosh, I'm cranky this morning  ::MonkeyEek::

Ok ya'll!! It's just too, too, too quiet.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Where is everybody, and what is about to happen????  ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyWaa::

Well, don't go lookin' at that pic of Spindy that CBB posted if you are in a puter breaking mood.  ::MonkeyEek::

My heart breaks for Crystal  ::MonkeyWaa::  Cindy and George please go home and crawl under a rock, please. ::MonkeyNoNo::

They have a lot of nerve walking out of their house into society  ::MonkeyEek::

sad for Crystal....
I agree, Cindy and George need to go back under their rock..

I here,and wondering the same thing.  ::MonkeyCool::

If we don't have something new to talk about we will talk about Spindy. When she is around a camera, if George was going to commit suicide, so was she. If Crystal was faint and overcome, so was she. If Crystal and her mom crying when they spoke, she got to the podium and her voice was cracking worse. Always the star!!! I am beginning to make my own self ill.   ::MonkeyWaa::

Where is Northern Rose?? She hasn't been on in a few days.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

O/T Did you get my message in musings? I e-mailed Searching and haven't heard from her. I think she is still having puter problems.

I have genuine fear for your puter this morning.  ::MonkeyRoll::

Good Morning everyone.  You have to wonder about the neighborhood association where the Anthonys live.  I bet they would love nothing more for them to move to some other location.  I am shocked we haven't heard more of this in the news.

You should  ::MonkeyEek:: What will save me is a doc dump or Lenny tomorrow giving his deposition, but now that doesn't look good either  ::MonkeyNoNo:: There were a couple pics of Cindy at the vigil though that I would like to discuss  ::MonkeyRoll::

I bet they would love them out of there, and if I was in their association, I would be non stop trying to get them out of there. But really the association has no grounds I don't think to get them out of the neighborhood. ::MonkeyEek::

didn't see it but thanks for emailing Searching...will go check it out...thank you..
xxxx

Well, at least it does appear that Joy was not at the vigil last night  ::MonkeyEek::

I know I and alot of other people are perfectly fine with them staying.  I am sure surrounding areas in Florida wouldn't want them to throw a dart and pick their area to move into.  They may have no grounds to get them to move but I would think protestors or people that are aware of what they are doing would be protesting.  We may see this if they continue their TV campaign in the future.

I don't know, but it seems they have disrupted the peace and tranquility in the neighborhood. I guess what they association would worry about more is how well the Anthonys maintain their front lawn.  ::MonkeyRoll::

I am like Monkeywithclass. I would like to hear the REAL scoop from the neighbors. I know we have recently heard that audio of the neighbor couple, and Christina stated that Spindy stormed into her house came to her house to interrogate her armed with her notebook visit with her and chat after Casey told her that Caylee was murdered missing.  ::MonkeyRoll::

good morning monkeys---does anyone recall the approximate date of the conversation about the 2 houses that intersected where caylee was found??  IIRC, one with the name gonzalas and one with name zenida somehow attached to these 2 lots?

TIA!

Good Morning Monkeys & guests:

I'm here but my fingers are frozen and not moving too well.  I was offline all weekend.  Not much news to report Trimm?  Why do we think LP's depo will not be a go?  I'm GAF and not reading back.   ::MonkeyDevil:: TIA, Lovin

I think that Cindy is as much of a sociopath as her daughter..she doesn't know how to behave in these situations so he has to take clues from other's actions and speech and say this is how I feel, felt etc.   

So sad for poor Caylee..Uncle Lee and Papa George didn't set such a hot example either.  I remember one of Casey's ex boyfriends or friends saying that Caylee was flirty ...one can only wonder where she got that from...right!

Not really.GAF.   ::MonkeyHaHa::
We can't find Northern Rose
There are some photos of the vigil.
CBB did a scary photo of Cin-cin.
NoRose needs some news so she doesn't break her puter.
The rest of us are just waiting........(cricket chirp)

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/10/could-zenaida-gonzalez-have-been-code-for-caylee-anthonys-location-and-not-just-a-nannys-name/

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/10/could-zenaida-gonzalez-have-been-code-for-caylee-anthonys-location-and-not-just-a-nannys-name/#comment-1422566

Here is the link

Hey ya checkers!
If I'm not late to the ball again & can get my fingers to work:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/10/could-zenaida-gonzalez-have-been-code-for-caylee-anthonys-location-and-not-just-a-nannys-name/

thanks Trimm and Monkey with Class!

That Trimm character sure is fast!  Nice work.  Sorry I posted the link as well.

Day late & $1.00 short I see...some great stuff on the front page for anyone new that just wants a recap.  Thanks everyone for the updates! Lovinlife

Ya'll are all to fast for me! I just prop back in my chair and wait. I know everyone else will beat me to the punch.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

You notice lately,...especially on LKL ..Cindy used the excuse that Casey was just a kid herself..that's why she partied to show her grief and anxiety over Caylee..then Cindy said at that age she partied too..Lord help those folks that partied with her!  Wonder if this will come up as a dense tactic..it won't fly..she was 22 years old..not 14 or 15.

So Cindy..if you realized you had raised an immature ,sociopathic offpring, who was not capable of taking care of someone else or making decisions for that person...why did you berate her when she wanted you to watch Caylee while she partied hearty?  Seems to me Cindy, knowing what she knew, should have been releived to have Caylee with her rather then out with an immature egotistical parent?

And I still want to know who the Baby Daddy is?  I do not for one minute believe he is dead...I think he is alive and just never knew his one night stand resulted in a child.

You can tell we're ready to jump on anything we can.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I want to know who Caylee's daddy is also, I don't believe he is dead either, but what I really want to know is why the secrecy about this?  ::MonkeyEek::

I think before Casey refused to tell her Momma..her way of controlling Cindy.

I think now to come out with it..well..the Baby Daddy could sue them in civil court for wrongful death, etc..and that would take away any money they have now and money they would make in the future....so they ain't going there.

I am sitting here scratching my head. I have just heard back from Hal and he said Adam Longo did the story about the bass Extreme Search boat, and that he is no longer with the station.  I was sure that Jennifer D'onofrio did the story.   ::MonkeyConfused:: Help!
I'm loosing it.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Unless Adam is blonde with a good figure, it was Jennifer who did the story  ::MonkeyRoll::

So..what kind of bomshell's do you think Lenny will have for Morgan tomorrow?  I am still believing that will happen. 

Saw it.  Way to go CBB.

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I sure hope you are right, it will be very interesting, I don't know what kind of bombshells, but I'm sure there will be.

CC   ::MonkeyDevil:: I don't think it would take much convincing to get Cindy to play strip poker  ::MonkeyEek::

I don't think so either..but who would want to play with her?

Now I don't believe for one minute that they don't know who the daddy is. We have seen Spindy in action, and she would have just ground on Skanky Pants till she told her the truth. She would have with held money and CC's and taken away her car. She is tenacious and would have never let things lie. There is a big reason why the daddy is not disclosed. The social security and child support is the big reason I think this. They are money-hungry vultures, and if there was a way to bring in a buck, they would have done it. Something really stinks on Hoplesspring Dr. JMO  ::MonkeyRoll::

It was him.Here's the story.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19115776/detail.html

I noticed that she DID borrow Skany's pushup bra. It did wonders for her.   ::MonkeyRoll::

I think they know too.

Thanks, I was confused, it was a blond woman who went over to the Anthony's home, and she interviewed George while Cindy stayed in the background.  ::MonkeyRoll:: And George went on and on about his fishing boat.

But,..but..didn't she do the interview out if front of the house for the "Exclusive News Conference"  with the boat? Spindy was standing in the driveway making sure he said the right thing???   ::MonkeyConfused::

We've done it again! This is getting scary!  ::MonkeyHaHa::

It was definitley a woman doing the interview outside the home, I remember that well, because Cindy kept quiet  ::MonkeyEek:: but was sneaking around in the background. ::MonkeyRoll::

I don't know,but it won't be boring.

We need to find out if Lenny will be at the depo tomorrow before we get our hopes up too high.  Ah-hum!!!! Trimm?? Capp??
Whatever he says, I know it'll be good!  ::MonkeyDance::

::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

I remember that.I remember us talking about it.I haven't found it yet.  ::MonkeyRoll::

Wow, we really need Lenny's depo tomorrow, I hope we find out, I don't want to get my hopes up. ::MonkeyEek::

CCI posted your Mrs Grinch pic again last night on the thread. I hope I didn't violate any copyright laws.    ::MonkeyTongue::

This is all I got.

5/1/2009     Subpoena Returned Served     subpoena for annie dowling was substiuted service to Sean Daly, Jr., roommate     
5/15/2009    Notice of Cancellation of Deposition    Notice of Cancellation of Deposition    FERNANDEZ-GONZALEZ ZENAIDA

http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/CivilSelect.aspx?SessionID=f7ce7855-a4c4-4174-845c-ecbd5b712a7d

Thanks Trimm  ::MonkeyCool::

Actually, I think the real reason we do not know who baby daddy is was Cindy not wanting anyone to compete with for custody - I'm not kidding.   After Cindy found out Jesse was not Caylee's biological father, she probably told Casey that she & George would help Casey & there was no need.   Jesse Grund ruined that plan by stunning them with still supporting Casey & caring for Caylee even though he found out Caylee was not his daughter.  Cindy despised it, look at what she is doing to him now.

Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!!!

OMG CBB...you should have given us a warning before hand on that pic of Cindy. That is enough to make to toss your cookies. But I don't doubt that Cindy may have worn something just like that years ago...Oh heck maybe she still does.

The pics from the vigil are all about C & G. Makes you want to scream. At least didn't see Joy's ugly mug.

I also remember Jennifer D'O doing the report on the fishing boat. We all emailed the station about it.

I'll give a ring in a bit, its only 8 there if he's still in CA & I dont call anyone unless it is urgent before 9AM

I hope that doesn't mean what I think it means.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Didn't someone here talk to the secretary at Morgan's office one time?
If we find out Lenny isn't going to be at the depo tomorrow, I am going back to bed and pull the covers over my head and pout!  ::MonkeyWaa::

Norose, I just won a free laptop! I will give it to you if you break your puter. 'Course, I have won about 50 others and I have worried the UPS man crazy.    ::MonkeyRoll::

This is gossip and it's not nice, it's not Sunday and we're off to a new week and I have all the seven deadly sins to choose from as it is a new week ( I have my own religion ).
Maybe they don't know who the Baby Daddy is because Casey pulled a train one evenng / Didn't that come from Uncle Rick ?
..
Also, who has been contributing to the commisary funds for Casey so she can become obese, unhealthy and yet have soft skin ?   
.. Good Morning all.

No, actually it was Holly Bristow of Fox35

Have you noticed they don't try to impose themselves on the Haleigh's father anymore?
He kicked out George out once. Maybe Crystal will get the idea soon...

Capp you are right...we emailed about Jennifer's biased reporting for the Anthony. Holly was the one that Cindy told she would never give her another exclusive and she is the one George called to show her their surprise boat.

I see Kat_Gram is GAF as well.  Obviously the people who contribute to her commissary fund have more money and less of a life than I do...it's a sad world.

Don't know about Uncle Rick's train story but I'd love to hear more from him regarding "family gatherings". ::MonkeyDevil::

Send it to mushroom head.     ::MonkeyDance::

::MonkeyAngel::

Whoops! I meant to say you are an angel. Thanks.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Errr.....Could you think of another punishment???  ::MonkeyEek::

I'll be willing to bet that Spindy choked the truth out of her, and in that case, I'll bet she knows who was the engineer and who was the caboose and all the freight cars in between! If she could nail a one of them she would! Somebody's getting blackmailed, is what I think. JMO

I was taking a look at the NPFH vigil pictures.  I do not see comfort & concern in Cindy, I see contempt, resentment & disdain in that fixed star & locked jaw.    I'll repeat the link because I only screencapped these two for now.   George has that downward stare so he looks concerned & stumbles on his words, I see deception in them both.   I hate to say it but when I listened to Crystal, her tone & the way she says it reminds me how Susan Smith made her pleas, I am not implying she's not genuine but it did cause me pause that the memory came to mind.

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http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/seminole_news/051709_Vigil   Video up now
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/051709vigilforhope/indexGallery.htm   Photo Gallery

Took a while to catch up but I did it!  Hubby was playing with a new router and we had no internet since Friday. 

The vigil pictures make me want to vomit.  I have great compassion for Haleigh's family, but George and Cindy are like a bad case of (insert any vile infliction you feel here).  They just keep coming back.  They need to stay at home, and stay away from the cameras.  I am going to write the sponsors of the LKL interview again and hope that it will deter other networks from hosting them.

Fanny - come for a visit.  We are at -2 with 15 - 20 cm snow expected in the next 24 hours.  Went from sunny 20 above to -2 in under 12 hours.  My perennials don't know if they should put on sunscreen or dig out the fur coats. I refuse to dig out the snow shovels again!

I would be covering my eyes with my hands too if I had that THING staring into my face too!   ::MonkeyWaa::

I am joking...Please, no nasty e-mails.

I don't know how to take any of them, to tell you the truth. I only read on the Haleigh thread. One day I think one thing, and the next day another. JMO 

O/T  There is an arrest pending in the Briant Rodriguez abduction case.  Two suspected have been identified.  Suspect information not released yet.   Those animals cut his hair to conceal his identity, but grace be to God he is healthy & fine.   The police found Briant literally roaming the streets in Mexico.

Oh my!! I will never complain about a little frost again. I am glad to see you here.  ::MonkeyDance::

WTH did you hubby do with the router to knock the internet off??  ::MonkeyShocked::

I am PO'd about the Ants at the vigil too! Norose is about to break her puter.   ::MonkeyRoll::

Fanny, please send me the laptop you won, my computer started making a noise, probably mad like I am. It isn't anymore, but if I go off, it's my computer. I already told my husband prepare to fix my laptop and get this computer in tip top shape. And yes it was Holly who did a piece about the fishing boat, I couldn't think of her name, but it is a blonde woman.

Thanks, that is a case that makes zero sense, and I hope there is some info after they arrest the suspects. No ransom, and the little one wondering around in Mexico with a note in his pocket  ::MonkeyConfused::

I hope that baby was not touched other than having his hair cut.

The top pic of Cindy that you posted, look how evil she looks  ::MonkeyEek::

Me too, but something is way off on this case, hopefully there will be an arrest, and info will come out.

Yep, I think it was Holly Bristow....Maybe the Ants gave her the "exclusive" so it would ruin HER career.  ::MonkeyRoll::

I am on the phone with UPS as we speak. In the meantime, quit slapping around your laptop.  ::MonkeyTongue::

There is something weird about Briant's kidnapping. I'm wondering if maybe they got the wrong child. Maybe at the wrong house. Dunno??

I know NoRose, it went right thru me.   

There's another event coming up on May 25 for the missing as well, can't remember the name of the event  ::MonkeyConfused:: but you know who, will be there as well.

Just got off the phone with Lenny, his deposition is postponed with no new date set.

Damn it!!!  What to do tomorrow?

No wonder I couldn't find it. Cudos to Capp.
I'm going crazy over here,trying to pay bills and hubby asking 15 questions at one time.  ::MonkeyWaa::
I need a vacation.
I want some documents now.  ::MonkeyDevil::

http://www.wftv.com/news/19491712/detail.html

Judge To Consider Motion To Dismiss Zenaida Slander Case
Posted: 10:41 am EDT May 18, 2009

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- A judge will consider a motion Tuesday to dismiss the Zenaida Gonzalez slander case against Casey Anthony. Casey originally told detectives she thought a babysitter named Zenaida Gonzalez kidnapped Caylee.


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RAW VIDEO: Zenaida Talks To WFTV
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A woman with the same name is suing Casey for slander in civil court. Detectives haven't been able to prove Caylee ever had a babysitter named Zenaida.

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Maybe they are waiting to reschedule his depo until after the judge rules on the motion? ::MonkeyConfused:: Has her civil atty made one appearance at any of the depos?  Thoughts? 

Loving,

Casey's civil attorneys have not attended ANY of the depositions tha Zeneida's attorneys conducted (dum dum dum).  Casey's main civil attorney Jonathon Kasen is another arrogant putz but what he refuses to get is that if he has any merit to dropping the civil case he should have advised his client to drop her counter suit (notice no mention of that).   For that matter the most idiotic move in this case so far was allowing Casey to counter sue because it gave the case merit to go forward & look at what we've ascertained thus far from depositions stemming from it.

It doubt strongly that the judge will dismiss the case.  I would not be shocked if there is a lawsuit filed against Cindy Anthony for how she further slandered this ZG many months ago forwarding her daughter's story - refer to the big blow up toward the end of her deposition when Morgan laid into her.

Thanks  ::MonkeyWaa::

O/T~I found this on WFTV.com while searching for news.  WARNING-IT WILL TURN YOUR STOMACH! It is not a matter of if, but when we will be starting a new thread on this piece of crap. JMO.

http://www.wftv.com/news/19471875/detail.html

Mother Collapses, Dies As Child Rapist Son Set Free
Posted: 12:05 pm EDT May 15, 2009
Updated: 11:47 pm EDT May 15, 2009

SEMINOLE COUNTY, Fla. -- A child rapist who admitted to preying on nearly 20 children is now a free man. Kareem Merthie was released during a hearing in Seminole County Friday morning.

<snipped>

He is free to go live with his uncle in a neighborhood on Alexander Avenue in Sanford.

Kareem Merthie does have to register as a sexual predator so neighbors will know he is living there. Neighbors say they are not happy about it.

"Yes, we don't want him around here, too many children round here," said neighbor Anthony Robinson. "Sooner or later, you did it once; you did it 20 times, you're going to do it again."

Merthie was released and will not be monitored, because he was a juvenile at the time of the rapes.

I don't remember seeing him at any of the depos & at this point I can't even remember his name.  You would think he would relish some of the spotlight, like Bozo.  Wonder what is up.

Now that would be wonderful, and I'd love to hear Cindy's rants if that happened. ::MonkeyEek::

Capp,

I agree with you regarding the civil suit.  Would love, love, love for sindy to be named as well.  We have all seen her in all her glory.  I think they will delay the civil suit until after the criminal trial, but I do belive ZG has a right to be cleared in a court of law.  And I believe Mitnick & Morgan want to help the SA's office as much as possible with their depos.

Lovinlife

Remember I mentioned that duct tape is actually commonly used in crimes.   Well, there is an abduction case right in Orange County, here is the article:

Officers Say Man Duct Taped 4-Year-Old Girl's Mouth

Posted: 6:09 am EDT May 18, 2009Updated: 12:20 pm EDT May 18, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Investigators released new information in the arrest of a man accused of trying to abduct a 4-year-old girl from her home.

Mauricio Reyes, 46, is being held in the Orange County jail. He is charged with kidnapping of a child under 12 years old and with burglary of an occupied residence.

IMAGES: Arrest In Attempted Abduction Case
COMPOSITE SKETCH: Photo Released By Officers

Investigators say they were able to track Reyes down through beer cans that were left behind at the scene.

Eyewitness News has learned that through Reyes' arrest, they were able to solve a 2007 attempted kidnapping, which had similar circumstances involving an 8-year-old child. Officers say the child's mother woke up and thwarted the attempted kidnapping.

In the recent attempted abduction, a neighbor's surveillance camera captured Reyes driving away in his jeep.

The attempted abduction happened around 5:00 Thursday morning in the Andover Cay subdivision in East Orange County. Detectives say Reyes broke through a window and snatched the 4-year-old girl from her bed.

Investigators also disclosed a bizarre ritual that happened inside the home. They say Reyes bound the 4-year-old's mouth with duct tape, took her into the garage where he made a bed for her then took her mother's high-heel shoes and laid them next to the bed, before going back into home to search for more items.

The little girl was able to get the tape off of her mouth and scream loud enough to wake her parents.

Investigators had previously released a composite sketch of the suspect, however, Reyes doesn't resemble the man shown in the sketch (see sketch) released by investigators. After the attack, investigators went door to door in the neighborhood passing out flyers and looking for leads.

Officers were able to connect the kind of beer that Reyes left at the scene to a Publix shopping center nearby.

Detectives say Reyes is the man seen on surveillance video as he walked into a Publix store at Curry Ford Road and Dean Road on the night of the attack.

Detectives say they are going to charge Reyes with the 2007 attempted abduction as well. Reyes is scheduled to appear in court at 1:30 Monday afternoon.
http://www.wftv.com/news/19489838/detail.html

It would not shock me if Bozo tries to tie this in somehow to create reasonable doubt - he doesnt stand a chance but I'd be stunned if he didnt try.

 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

Wow, you could be right Capp, Baez just might try to throw this in, it isn't going to work, but he might as well try. I'm not even going to let my mind go wandering  about why the high heel shoes were next to the bed that the kidnapper made in the garage for the child  ::MonkeyShocked::

Lovin',I saw that.It was quite disturbing.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Capp,you're right.I Don't put anything pas Baez.  ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyCool::

Now what in the heck are we going to do tomorrow, maybe the docs will come.

I saw that too and wondered if slore was looking up the 2007 attempted abduction online before Caylee met her fate. HMMMMMM.

Awful, it killed his mother.  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Now that's a great point, and I would not doubt it at all. ::MonkeyEek::

Ya know, this is exactly what I was talking about the other day as part of a long post.   Juvey cases getting lenacy & frankly many of them are quite heinous.    The other crucial problem is regarding sexual predators, way liberal minds just do not want to comprehend that THERE IS NO CURE & THEY WILL NOT STOP!  Write down this scum's name, we'll be discussing it some time in the future - let's pray before he causes real harm or death to another child.   The grief & anguish so palpable that a mother dies in the court room, beyond deplorable...how tragic.

O dear so far this Monday is not starting off so swell...major sigh  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Sorry, I forgot to say Good afternoon Monkeys!  ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks Capp.  So it is Jonathan Kasen.  Seems he is keeping such a low profile on this.  Makes me wonder.

Since we don't get to see Lenny tomorrow, here is something cute:

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THE TALE OF KING GEORGE AND QUEEN CYNTHIA

Once upon a time there lived a Prince by the name of George. Prince George of Hopespring, as in “hope springs eternal”. His parents had high hopes for George, but he never could assert himself very well. When it came time for George to marry and take over the kingdom, there was great strife. There was not a maiden in the kingdom who would marry him. The mere mention of his name, to the ladies in waiting, sent profuse giggles throughout the kingdom. The maidens would say things like “Are you serious? Not witless George? Goober George from Hopespring? I shan’t marry a man who can’t even sharpen his own sword without some assistance in the matter!” Needless to say, they had to look elsewhere for George’s bride. They searched high and low until finally a bride was found. Princess Cynthia of Denial, whose kingdoms motto was “Come live in Denial!” . The entire kingdom of Hopespring was present on the day of the joyous union. Throughout the kingdom people were chanting “Hopespring’s eternal, long live Denial!” So began the life of King George and Queen Cynthia. Soon after their union, they had a daughter, Princess Casey, and boy, was she a handful. She grew up to become the biggest common slut in the kingdom. She loved hanging out in the taverns, and pulling her skirt up over her head for pints of ale. King George and Queen Cynthia were upset, but told themselves that it was “just a phase, she’ll grow out of it”. Not surprisingly, Princess Casey got with child. All the men at the tavern said that it wasn’t their kid. Later on, King George and Queen Cynthia would discover that the father of the child was a one night stand, and Princess Casey couldn’t even remember his name. The Princess did keep a papyrus of his obituary, though. It seems the father of the child had died in a horrible jousting event in Neverwas, pronounced Never Vas, it’s a German name.  So sad. The Princess did not like being pregnant, since it really cramped her style. She could not wait to get back out to the taverns and pull her skirt over her head, roll out with the barrels, and on the barrels…and in the barrels…and around the barrels, you get my drift? When the baby was 2 years old, The Princess decided that she would just start taking her to the taverns with her. The bar wench at Ye Olde Crotch and Crab said that she would help watch the baby. To avoid Queen Cynthia’s constant nagging, Princess Casey just told her mother that she was going to Bible Study. King George and Queen Cynthia bragged to the entire kingdom about Princess Casey being such a holy, good, sweet, kind, smiling, caring mother. That was, until, Princess Casey disappeared, and never returned home. King George was very upset, because the wheels on the horse and cart she was driving needed rotating and balanced. Queen Cynthia set out to find her daughter and grandbaby, but it was to no avail. Thirty days later, they received a letter from Gargamel’s Horse Cart Towing Company. The letter said that their horse and cart had been towed, and they could pick it up for the price of 6 goats, 2 sheep, 1 horse, and barrel of their finest ale. King George was furious and went in person to retrieve the horse and cart. Queen Cynthia went in search of her prodigal daughter. Upon reaching Gargamel’s Towing, King George said “this is rock path robbery!”, and paid Gargamel.”Where’s my cart? You beast!”, said King George, “Just wait until my wife hears about this! Then you’ll be in trouble!” The horse and cart were parked way out in a field. “Oh kind King!”, said Gargamel, “we had to park your horse and cart far away, for it smells frightful!”
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Edit to add link per cece: http://motherclucker.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/the-tale-of-king-george-and-queen-cynthia/

That man they arrested for the attempted kidnapping of the four year old, sure doesn't look like the sketch  ::MonkeyEek::

Thanks cece  ::MonkeyDevil::

She was probably as shocked as us that he is getting off!!!!  That's one man that does not need to be walking the streets! No wonder victims families take matters into their own hands. And then they are prosecuted worse that the child rapists! ::MonkeyShocked::

No he sure does not.  ::MonkeyEek::

Oh Darn, we're gonna have to wait for the rest of the story!!   ::MonkeyDevil::

Clever and a much needed laugh today, tks Cece!   Princess of Denial...how perfect

That's what I thought yesterday when they showed the video pic from Publix.    ::MonkeyShocked::

I hope that's not Bozo's SUPRISE is supposed to be!!! That's it!! Spindy gonna start complaining because the PoPo didn't look for footprints outside of Caylee's bedroom window.   ::MonkeyRoll::

Maybe they have DNA. Uggh! I don't want to go there.  ::MonkeyWaa::

And watch this man is going to turn out to be Zenaida's uncle  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

Now I have some really bad news to report. No date on doc dump per Hal. No dump, no Lenny.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Hopefully the hearing tomorrow will be eventful. That is the best thing I can think of to say.   ::MonkeyWaa::

Well, thanks for trying to find out, it's awful quiet, something is bound to happen  ::MonkeyEek::

And he stole Casey's car.  ::MonkeyRoll::

No Lenny?  No doc dump?  Well, then can we have the Anthonys web cam back, cause I tell you, I need something to be mad at!!!

I am now officially in a snit. I guess we will have to keep talking about Spindy.  ::MonkeyRoll::

I wish Casey had to show up in court tomorrow. We could see how wide in the beam she is getting.   ::MonkeyRoll::

I wonder if Spindy stopped plucking her eyebrow in that terrible arch would they grow out and look like George's uni-brow.  ::MonkeyShocked::

Please! Don't rile up NoRose anymore. Her laptop is hanging on by a thread.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I wonder why we are having to so long?Craziness,I tell you.  ::MonkeyDevil::

Can we still blame it all on CC?

UGH and double UGH...dangdabit!  I don't think we will get much of anything until after the May 28th hearing...I would like a status on Bozo's bar complaints.

O/T The mom in that internet case which she made up a boyfriend on her teen daughter's account & emotionally tortured a young challenged teen girl to the point of causing her suicide is being sentenced today....to me the degree of her conviction is already too soft.   This woman reminds me of what Cindy's twisted brain when it came to her children thru the years.

It is an important issue, cyber bullying does cause death via suicide or murder in more cases than we are nationally aware of, at the very least it damages reputations & emotionally tortures victims.   Personally, if the woman lived a country like Turkey her hands should be cut off to set an example of what not to do will typing!!   I know, I know that does sound barbaric but ask anyone from turkey if they leave the convertible cars wide open if they ever get stolen...just saying.    Maybe, I'm harsh today...maybe not LOL

A1 sounds like a sad blogger.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Sure! Maybe CC will do a pic of Spindy with a uni-brow.  ::MonkeyRoll::

Maybe Casey will have to borrow this outfit from Cindy for her next court appearance.   ::MonkeyDevil::

Well, next week we will be seeing Casey in the courtroom, and get to see her new DP lawyer, and can make comments about what Casey and Linda will be wearing. A1 I love the idea about the web cam, sure miss those days. ::MonkeyEek::

NoRose, put the bat down - it will be okay, breath!

That's a gem of a pic of Cindy, one booby lower then the other, and the expression is priceless.  ::MonkeyRoll::

I wonder if jb's still scrambling around to find someone?  I know, I know...it's a secret.  ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Give me a break!! Cindy you are such a lying Drama Queen!!  :smt078
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Now I feel better!!

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-casey-anthony-civil-case-dismissed-051809,0,1292515.story

Casey Anthony's attorney wants judge to dismiss civil case
Casey Anthony's attorneys want the defamation case against her dismissed, claiming it was filed to generate publicity for a law firm with offices in Orlando.

Sarah Lundy | Sentinel Staff Writer
    12:36 PM EDT, May 18, 2009



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CASEY ANTHONY CASE
Casey Anthony's attorney wants judge to dismiss civil case
Casey Anthony's attorneys want the defamation case against her dismissed, claiming it was filed to generate publicity for a law firm with offices in Orlando.

Sarah Lundy | Sentinel Staff Writer
    12:36 PM EDT, May 18, 2009

Casey Anthony's attorneys want the defamation case against the single mother dismissed, claiming it was filed to generate publicity for a law firm with offices in Orlando.

A hearing is set for Tuesday before Orange Circuit Court Judge Jose R. Rodriguez, who is overseeing the civil case. The Morgan & Morgan law firm, which has offices in Florida, Georgia and Mississippi, is representing Zenaida Gonzalez, a 38-year-old Kissimmee mother of six.

In July, Anthony told investigators that a baby sitter named Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez abducted 2-year-old Caylee Marie a month earlier.

The toddler's skeletal remains were found Dec. 11 in woods less than a mile from the Anthony home in east Orange County. Anthony is charged with first-degree murder and her case is pending in criminal court.

The civil lawsuit was filed in September. So far, several people, including Anthony's parents and brother, have been questioned under oath by John Morgan, Keith Mitnik and other attorneys at the law firm's Orlando office. Anthony's attorney, Jonathan Kasen, have not attended any of the interviews.

In documents filed in February, Kasen contends Gonzalez has failed to show how Anthony has damaged the Kissimmee woman's reputation. He questions whether Gonzalez lost her job and failed to find new employment because of Anthony's actions.

He also points out that Anthony told detectives last summer that she did not know the Zenaida Gonzalez from Kissimmee when shown a picture and reported she wasn't the baby sitter she claimed took her child.

"The only reasonable conclusion that can be drawn about the plaintiff's suit was that it was filed solely to generate publicity for the plaintiff's law firm," Kasen wrote.

Kasen could not be reached today for comment.

Mitnik -- an attorney with Morgan & Morgan -- also could not be reached for comment.

I can't even post right today.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I wouldn't even attempt it. No telling what I might post!

Does anyone else have a problem with the statement that Morgan and Mitnick were trying to get publicity for their firm?   ::MonkeyRoll::

Yes I do.

I feel a tirade coming on. I am trying to control myself.    ::MonkeyRoll::

I'm not from FLA, thank god. But IIRC many Floridians knew of Morgan & Morgan before this case came up and had nothing but good things to say.  I think they were well known in the area and did not need to create a case to get clients, unlike someone else I know whose initials are JAB.   OH I'd love to jab him one right in the eye.  ::MonkeyEek::

I mean no disrespect to Florida Monkeys... I know you have much better weather than Northern Rose & I. ::MonkeyWink::

Me too, how stupid, you would think they could have come up with something other then this nonsense. ::MonkeyRoll::