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Title: Etan Patz-1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later Deceased/Conviction
Post by: canadianmonkey on May 14, 2009, 04:33:51 PM
    
NEW YORK (CNN) -- His was the first photo of a missing child to appear on a milk carton. Almost 30 years later, Etan Patz is still missing.

 
Etan Patz, 6, disappeared while walking to a school bus stop. It was the first time he'd gone alone.

 1 of 2  Etan was 6 when he disappeared on May 25, 1979, the Friday before Memorial Day. He was on his way to school in what is now the upscale Soho neighborhood of New York.

It was the first time he'd walked to the bus stop by himself. It was just a few blocks away. Etan, like any 6-year-old, argued that all of his friends walked to the bus stop alone, and his parents relented.

His mother, Julie Patz, learned that Etan hadn't been in classes when he failed to return home. She called the school at 3:30 p.m., then called the homes of all his friends. When no one had seen Etan, she called police and filed a missing person's report.

By evening more than 100 police officers and searchers had gathered with bloodhounds. The search continued for weeks, but no clues to Etan's whereabouts were found.  Watch an update on the case »

The boy's disappearance was one of the key events that inspired the missing children's movement, which raised awareness of child abductions and led to new ways to search for missing children. Etan's case was the first of the milk carton campaigns of the mid-1980s.


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"In our minds there were only two possibilities," said Stan Patz, the boy's father. "Either Etan was taken by a stranger and killed or he was taken by a very sad woman desperate for a child of her own, and we hoped that such a woman would at least take care of him and keep him safe."

Patz lived with this hope until 1982, when he learned of Jose Antonio Ramos' arrest and the surprising connection between him and a former babysitter of Etan's.

Ramos was a drifter who in 1979 lived in Alphabet City, a neighborhood not far from Soho. In 1982 he was arrested after boys in a neighborhood in the Bronx complained that he had stolen their book bags while trying to coax them into a drainpipe under a bridge, where he lived, said the Patzes and federal prosecutor Stuart GraBois, who spent years investigating the case.

When police found Ramos in his drainpipe home, they found he had many photographs of small blond boys. They noticed that they looked a lot like Etan Patz, according to author Lisa R Cohen's book about the case, "After Etan: The Missing Child Case that Held America Captive."

Bronx police questioned Ramos, and he denied having anything to do with Etan's disappearance. But he did tell police that his girlfriend used to baby-sit for the boy, GraBois said.

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Prosecutors in the Bronx and Manhattan pursued this lead, but concluded they did not have enough evidence to connect Ramos to Etan's disappearance, GraBois and a spokesperson for the Manhattan District Attorney's Office said.

Ramos was released when the parents of the Bronx boys chose not to press charges against him, according to published reports. He left town and disappeared for six years -- until GraBois reviewed Etan's case. GraBois said he focused on Ramos as the prime suspect.

GraBois said he learned in 1988 that Ramos had been arrested and convicted of child molestation and was serving time in a Pennsylvania prison.

GraBois said he brought Ramos to New York for questioning and surprised him with the question: "How many times did you have sex with Etan Patz?"

Ramos told GraBois that he'd taken a little boy to an apartment he had on the lower East Side on the same day that Etan went missing. "He was 90 percent sure it was the same he'd seen in the news that was missing," GraBois said.

According to GraBois, Ramos claimed he released the boy and brought him to a subway station so the boy could go visit his aunt in Washington Heights.

"Etan did not have an aunt in Washington Heights," GraBois said. When questioned further, Ramos refused to say anything more and asked for a lawyer, according to GraBois.

Ramos is serving a 10- to 20-year prison sentence in Pennsylvania. He is scheduled to be released in November 2012, GraBois said.

GraBois said he had Ramos transferred to a federal prison, and planted informants as his cell mates. He wouldn't go into detail about what Ramos might have told them, but said he's convinced he's eyeing the right suspect.

GraBois turned over his evidence to the Manhattan District Attorney's Office, but prosecutors have not brought charges. They say that without a body, they don't have enough evidence.


Etan's case is still considered by the NYPD to be a cold case.

Anyone with information on the whereabouts of Etan Patz or that leads to the arrest and conviction of the individual responsible for his disappearance is asked to call the FBI/NYPD Etan Patz hotline: 212-384-2200.
 
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/13/grace.coldcase.patz/


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 16, 2009, 04:23:41 PM
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/trutv.com/graphics/photos/serial_killers/predators/etan_patz/2-2Missing-poster-Patz-(200.jpg)

Parents on balcony in NY
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/trutv.com/graphics/photos/serial_killers/predators/etan_patz/2-1Stan-&-Julie-Patz-on-bal.jpg)


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 26, 2010, 02:02:23 PM
On Missing Children’s Day, Vance Says Etan Patz Case Re-Opened
Wednesday, May 26th, 2010 5:02 am
On National Missing Children’s Day yesterday, Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance told the Wall Street Journal he had reopened the investigation into the disappearance of 6-year-old Etan Patz, the blond-haired, blue-eyed boy who disappeared 31 years ago yes terday and never returned.

Vance, who took office New Year’s Day when Robert Morgenthau retired after 35 years, has directed his prosecutors to take a fresh look at a case that has haunted New York for decades. Morgenthau argued there was insufficient evidence to proceed in the case.  The prime suspect in the case is Jose Ramos, who was the boyfriend of a woman who had earlier been hired to walk Etan to school during a bus strike. Ramos is in prison for molesting two boys. Etan was declared legally dead in 2001. In 2004, a judge found Ramos responsible for Etan’s death in a civil case.
http://thecrimereport.org/2010/05/26/on-missing-childrens-day-vance-says-etan-patz-case-re-opened/


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: klaasend on May 26, 2010, 09:42:01 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/05/26/new.york.1979.missing.child/index.html?eref=igoogle_cnn

District attorney reopens case of first missing child on milk carton
By Gabriel Falcon, CNN
May 26, 2010 8:12 p.m. EDT

New York (CNN) -- His was the first face of a missing child to appear on the back of a milk carton. Now, nearly 31 years to the day since Etan Patz vanished from a New York street, authorities are reopening his case.

The communications director for Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. confirmed that the office is taking another look at the decades-old mystery.

"It's a case that the district attorney has been aware of since before running for office last year," said Erin Duggan. "Last summer he said he would take a fresh look at the case if he became district attorney. Tuesday he confirmed that the case had been reopened."

Duggan added, "This was the disappearance of a child that gripped the residents of Manhattan and continues to leave many questions unanswered."

Etan was 6 when he disappeared on the morning of May 25, 1979. "It was the first day that he was to walk two blocks from his apartment to the school bus stop," said Lisa R. Cohen, author of "After Etan: The Missing Child Case That Held America Captive."

"He had been wanting to do it by himself, and they gave him permission, literally two short blocks," Cohen said. "And his mother could see the bus stop at the end of the street and she saw parents there, waiting with kids for the bus, and so she let him go."

Etan was never seen alive again.

Jose Antonio Ramos, a convicted child molester, has been identified as a suspect in the disappearance, but has never been charged in connection with the case.

According to Cohen, Ramos initially told investigators that he was "90 percent sure" that a boy he had taken home on that day in 1979 was Etan.

Ramos has since denied making that statement, she said.

Cohen said Etan's father, Stan Patz, contacted her after the news was announced that the prosecutor was reopening the case. "He said, 'Maybe we'll finally get our day court,'" she said.

From families and detectives to people in the missing children movement, this case changed everything, Cohen said.

"Before Etan, parents did not have an image in their mind that something could happen to their children," she said. "And after Etan, they did."

(http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/CRIME/05/26/new.york.1979.missing.child/story.etan.patz.missingkids.jpg)


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on May 27, 2010, 09:23:04 AM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/7024133.html
31-year-old case of missing NYC boy under review
May 26, 2010

NEW YORK — Six-year-old Etan Patz vanished on May 25, 1979. One of the most extensive missing-child searches was mounted to find him, but two decades later, the boy was officially declared dead. No one has ever been arrested.

Now, the Manhattan district attorney's office will take a fresh look at the evidence collected against the prime suspect, a convicted child molester serving 20 years in prison in Pennsylvania.

By looking into the cold case, Cyrus R. Vance Jr. will be making good on a campaign promise. A spokeswoman for Vance said Wednesday she could not comment further on an open investigation.

Etan Patz (pronounced AY'-tahn payts) vanished while walking from his lower Manhattan home to a bus stop two blocks away. His disappearance spawned the national movement to publicize the cases of missing children. His photo was the first put on a milk carton, and his case turned May 25 into National Missing Children's Day.

The longtime former district attorney, Robert Morgenthau, said repeatedly he didn't have enough evidence to charge anyone. But Etan's father, Stan Patz, said that while there is little forensic evidence, he believes there is enough to convene a grand jury and get an indictment.

“All we have been asking for is the district attorney to take a good look at the information,” Patz said. “I realize this is not like ‘CSI.' That's why it's been a tough case all along. But there is enough evidence that a competent attorney can use to prosecute.”

Jose Ramos, who had dated Etan's baby sitter, has been the prime suspect all along, according to the boy's family. Ramos allegedly admitted to Pennsylvania authorities that he tried to molest Etan on the day of the child's disappearance but has denied harming him. It was unclear Wednesday if Ramos has an attorney, and Ramos was unreachable at the prison.

After Etan's disappearance, his parents kept the same number and stayed in the same SoHo apartment, in case he returned. But in 2001, after waiting 22 years, they obtained a court order declaring the boy dead.

In 2004, a Manhattan judge ruled Ramos was responsible for the boy's disappearance and presumed death, after the inmate ignored orders to answer deposition questions for a lawyer for the boy's parents. He was later ordered to pay $2 million to Etan's family.

Ramos is to be released in 2012 after a 20-year sentence for sexually abusing an 8-year-old boy, bringing a certain urgency to the case, which was never officially closed, the boy's father said. At least one FBI agent and a New York Police Department liaison is assigned to the case.

Patz is hopeful a fresh pair of eyes will yield some results.

“He (Vance) says he's willing to do that, and the fact he's willing to say it in public is very encouraging,” Patz said.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 27, 2010, 10:13:09 AM
Muffy and Klaas.....we have a thread on Etan Patz.... I'll merge.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Toler on April 19, 2012, 01:15:16 PM
Patz was six years old when he disappeared May 25, 1979 on his way to the school bus stop, touching off one of the most high-profile missing child cases in New York history. He was the first child ever to be shown on the side of a milk carton, and President Ronald Reagan declared May 25 National Missing Child Day in his honor.
 
Officials are searching the basement of a building on Prince Street in SoHo, based on a re-examination of evidence, police said. Authorities plan to dig up the basement, which is connected to a handyman who had contact with Patz just before he disappeared, according to a law enforcement official.
 
The 15-by-30 basement is at 127B Prince Street, about 200 feet from the building where Patz lived.  ::snipping2:: 

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/19/11286057-fbi-nypd-resume-search-for-etan-patz-who-went-missing-in-1979?lite


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on April 19, 2012, 02:02:50 PM
I hope they find his remains in the building.  Joel Ramos the suspect in this case is up for release from jail this November.  He should never see the light of day.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Toler on April 19, 2012, 06:13:29 PM
Updated at 2:37 p.m. ET] Investigators began jackhammering into the basement of a commercial building in Lower Manhattan on Thursday as part of a search for a 6-year-old boy who disappeared in May 1979 on his way to a bus stop in New York City.
 
"We're looking for human remains, clothing or other personal effects," New York Police Department spokesman Paul Browne said. "It's a very painstaking process."
 
Etan Patz's disappearance, considered a high-profile cold case, prompted authorities to splash the child's image on the sides of milk cartons in hopes of gathering more information. It is thought to be the first time that step was taken for a missing child.
 
"The FBI's Evidence Recovery Team is on the scene," FBI special agent Peter Donald said.
 
The excavation includes boring into the basement floors and walls of a SoHo building on Prince Street in Manhattan, near where the schoolboy is believed to have walked on his way to a bus stop more than three decades ago.  ::snipping2:: 

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/19/feds-in-new-search-for-n-y-boy-missing-since-1979/?hpt=hp_t2


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: cartfly on April 19, 2012, 08:56:08 PM
MODS, if possible could you merge threads regarding Etan. I found one, but I think we have another somewhere. Nutt may know where the other is located. One I found is here:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5105.0  (http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5105.0) Thanks :)


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: KittyMom on April 19, 2012, 09:16:28 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/19/fbi-da-searching-manhattan-building-in-boy-17-disappearance/?test=latestnews
Quote
He wouldn't say what evidence led investigators to the property, but a law enforcement official, speaking on condition of anonymity, told The Associated Press that at the time of the boy's disappearance, the building housed the workspace of a carpenter who was thought to have been friendly with the boy.

Then, within the past few weeks, an FBI dog indicated the possible presence of human remains in the space, prompting the decision to dig.

Some sources told ABC News that prosecutors are now skeptical whether convicted child sex abuser Jose Antonio Ramos -- long considered Patz abductor and killer -- did in fact commit the crime.


 

 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Northern Rose on April 20, 2012, 12:12:17 AM
Etan Patz Search Leads to Handyman's Basement 33 Years Later

(NEW YORK) -- A fresh investigation into the disappearance 33 years ago of a little boy named Etan Patz led to the Manhattan basement workshop of a handyman named Othneil Miller on Thursday.

Investigators believe that Patz, who was 6 years old when he vanished in 1979, was in Miller's basement the night before he disappeared, when Miller befriended the boy and gave him a dollar, sources told ABC News.

Federal agents and New York City police began to tear up the concrete floor of the basement at 127 Prince St. in the SoHo section of Manhattan. The basement was Miller's workshop in 1979.

 ::snipping2::

Thursday's probe, which was reopened by Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance in 2010, began with an interview of Miller.

Based on that interview, law enforcement sources said, a dog was brought to the scene as a warrant was drawn up. The cadaver dog got a positive hit for possible human remains. The warrant was served and the preparations for the excavation, expected to last five days, began.

 ::snipping2::

According to sources, the area of the basement where the dog picked up the scent appears to be one that had been resurfaced with fresh concrete at or shortly after the time of Patz's disappearance.

Sources told ABC News that even if a body had been kept for 24 hours or less and then moved, a trained dog could pick up the scent decades later.

The basement was searched in 1979, the year the boy disappeared, but the floor was never dug up.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.670kboi.com/rssItem.asp?feedid=118&itemid=29834699


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Northern Rose on April 20, 2012, 12:14:01 AM
Etan Patz's Disappearance Still Haunts Many SoHo Residents

More than a generation later, the disappearance of Etan Patz is still very fresh in the minds and hearts of SoHo residents, as many them were living in the neighborhood when the boy disappeared. Borough reporter Rebecca Spitz filed the following report.

On a sunny Thursday morning, SoHo residents were flung back to a dark time in their neighborhood's history -- the day in 1979 when six-year-old Etan Patz disappeared.

They watched NYPD and FBI crews working in the basement of 127 Prince Street, looking for Patz' remains.

"People used to say where is Etan and that was the biggest question and still, to this day, people are asking that question," said neighbor James Christie.

There was no visible movement in the Patz apartment, just a half-block east of the dig site. Neighbors remembered Etan's parents' desperation and incredible resolve.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/159743/etan-patz-s-disappearance-still-haunts-many-soho-residents


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Northern Rose on April 20, 2012, 12:19:14 AM
In Basement, Hopes to Solve ’79 Case of Missing Boy

Investigators swarmed into the basement of a building in SoHo on Thursday with jackhammers, pickaxes and orders to carry out the most extensive search to date for the remains of Etan Patz, a 6-year-old boy whose disappearance more than 30 years ago focused national attention on the problem of missing children.

Officials said they would dig for five days, a much more extensive effort than was made 12 years ago, when detectives searched the basement of an apartment where the primary suspect, Jose A. Ramos, a former mental patient who was serving time for molesting a boy in Pennsylvania, lived when Etan disappeared.

The new search focused on a basement area that had been used as a workshop by a carpenter and handyman from Etan’s building. Investigators are working on the theory that the handyman, Othniel Miller, killed the boy and buried him there, one law enforcement official said.

In recent days, according to the law enforcement official, Mr. Miller was interviewed by agents with the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and when the possibility was raised that the boy had been buried in the basement, he blurted out, “What if the body was moved?” the official said.

 ::snipping2::

Etan, a first grader who was wearing sneakers and an Eastern Airlines pilot’s cap, had pleaded with his parents that he was old enough to make the trip alone. He disappeared on the first day he was allowed to do so.

The basement being searched — at 127B Prince Street, at the corner of Wooster Street — had also been used by the SoHo Playgroup, a parent-led space for preschool children. A woman who had participated in the group as a child said she believed Etan was a member of the playgroup.

The basement is along the route Etan was to have followed that morning in May 1979. Somewhere between his parents’ loft at 113 Prince Street and the bus stop, on West Broadway, he disappeared.

 ::snipping2::

F.B.I. agents were seen escorting Mr. Miller to his apartment in Brooklyn on Thursday afternoon; a law enforcement official said investigators had tried to elicit information from him.

A cousin of Mr. Miller’s, Merdine Splatt, said any suggestion that Mr. Miller was a suspect in Etan’s death was “ridiculous.”

“How did they get him involved in this here? ” she said. “Well, if he was working in the building, quite naturally they will want to know what he knows.”

Efforts to reach Mr. Miller were unsuccessful.

The night before he disappeared, Mr. Miller had given Etan “his dollar wage” for doing chores, wrote Lisa R. Cohen, in “After Etan: The Missing Child Case That Held America Captive.”

More than a decade ago, Mr. Miller invited the police to come in and examine the basement, suggesting that they could tear up the floor if they wanted, but that they would have to pay to replace it, a person involved in the inquiry at the time said. Because Mr. Miller was not a suspect, they did not take him up on his offer, the person said.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/20/nyregion/in-etan-patz-case-police-begin-new-search-for-remains.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Northern Rose on April 20, 2012, 12:21:33 AM
Police search basement for remains of Etan Patz
The boy vanished in 1979 after leaving his family's Manhattan apartment to catch a school bus.

 ::snipping2::

Etan's parents, Stanley and Julie Patz, became outspoken advocates for missing children. For years, they refused to change their phone number, in the hope that Etan was alive somewhere, and might call. They never moved.

Stanley Patz didn't respond to phone calls and email messages Thursday.

No one has ever been prosecuted for the crime, but in recent years Stanley Patz sued an incarcerated drifter and admitted child-molester, Jose Ramos, who had been dating Etan's baby sitter around the time he disappeared.

Ramos denied killing the child, but in 2004 a Manhattan judge ruled him to be responsible for the death, largely due to his refusal to contest the case.

Ramos is scheduled to be released from prison in Pennsylvania in November, when he finishes serving most of a 20-year-sentence for abusing an 8-year-old boy. His pending freedom is one of the factors that has given new urgency to the case.

He is not the carpenter whose old workspace was being searched.

Investigators have looked at a long list of possible suspects over the years, and have excavated in other places before without success.

http://www.pressherald.com/news/nationworld/police-search-basement-for-remains-of-etan-patz_2012-04-20.html


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on April 20, 2012, 08:57:24 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57417579/cautious-optimism-in-search-for-etan-patzs-remains/
Cautious optimism in search for Etan Patz's remains
By John Miller
April 20, 2012

"CBS This Morning" senior correspondent John Miller, a former FBI Assistant Director, was a local reporter in New York City and covered the story when Etan Patz disappeared

Etan Patz has the tragic distinction of being the first missing child ever shown on a milk carton.

His disappearance in New York City captivated the nation in 1979, and the mystery has never been solved.

But now, the New York Police Department and FBI were to begin digging up the concrete floor in the basement in a Manhattan building just down the street from the last place Patz was seen -- the school bus stop.

"We are putting greater emphasis on this location, looking forensically for any evidence of human remains of clothing," says NYPD spokesperson Paul Browne
.

Authorities are cautiously optimistic the search will succeed.

Sources tell CBS News cadaver dogs had indicated the presence of human remains during a search there several days ago.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: KittyMom on April 20, 2012, 09:37:41 AM
It has been so long.  I hope Etan's mommy and daddy finally get some answers.  The person responsible has far fewer days ahead of them than behind them.  Dear God, let them want to meet you with a clear conscience.  Give them nightmares until they confess and lead investigators to Etan.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: flutter1 on April 20, 2012, 10:16:57 AM
It has been so long.  I hope Etan's mommy and daddy finally get some answers.  The person responsible has far fewer days ahead of them than behind them.  Dear God, let them want to meet you with a clear conscience.  Give them nightmares until they confess and lead investigators to Etan.

Amen ::MonkeyAngel::

Another, rather lengthy article, on the disappearance and current search

Quote
'There was a stench of death': Police search apartment of handyman who befriended  Etan Patz and worked with chief suspect in the case that shocked America 33 years ago
::snipping2::

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132164/FBI-search-Manhattan-apartment-Etan-Patz--33-years-went-missing.html?ICO=most_read_module (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132164/FBI-search-Manhattan-apartment-Etan-Patz--33-years-went-missing.html?ICO=most_read_module)


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on April 20, 2012, 05:00:24 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/handyman-etan-patz-probe-innocent/story?id=16180332
Handyman in Etan Patz Probe Says He's Innocent
April 20, 2012

lawyer for the handyman Othniel Miller whose basement workshop is the focal point of a new investigation into the Etan Patz case today denied he had anything to do with the little boy's disappearance more than three decades ago.

"Mr. Miller did not do this," Michael Farkas, the attorney for Miller, told reporters outside the Brooklyn building where Miller lives.

"Mr. Miller denies involvement with what happened to this beautiful young boy and he's going to remain cooperative to the extent that's reasonably possible given this investigation," Farkas said.
 ::snipping2::
Authorities today began the first full day of digging in the Manhattan basement at 127 Prince St. for new evidence, following the startling discovery that the missing child may never have made it off his own New York City block.

Patz's 1979 disappearance sparked a massive city-wide search 33 years ago, but now the FBI and New York City police believe they may find evidence in what was then a handyman's basement workshop just steps away from where the boy was last seen.

The small basement room at the center of the investigation belonged to Miller, now 75, and was also frequented by the case's longtime prime suspect Jose Ramos.
More...
(2 pg article)
Video at Link


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on April 20, 2012, 05:02:10 PM
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/04/etan-patz-search-continues-in-soho-two-suspects.html
Etan Patz Search Continues in Soho
By Joe Coscarelli
April 20, 2012

The FBI and NYPD again crowded 127 Prince Street at the corner of Wooster today in the renewed search for clues in the case of Etan Patz, the 6-year-old who went missing in 1979 and was never found. Cadaver-sniffing dogs reportedly picked up a scent recently in a Soho basement not far from the Patz family home, but an FBI spokesman has called that "one lead of many." Longtime prime suspect Jose Ramos, currently in jail on separate child-molestation charges, reportedly frequented the then-workshop used by neighborhood handyman Othneil Miller, who occasionally paid Etan for chores.

"What's being done right now is they're starting a very controlled and precise digging operation," said NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly today. "They're actually starting at the back wall." The work is expected to take up to five days, and the torn-up concrete will also undergo forensic testing.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on April 20, 2012, 05:05:44 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/20/justice/new-york-etan-patz-investigation/
Feds search for clues in New York boy missing boy case
From Susan Candiotti and Adam Reiss, CNN
April 20, 2012

 ::snipping2::
Etan was officially declared dead in 2001 as part of a civil lawsuit filed by his family against a drifter, Jose Antonio Ramos, a convicted child molester acquainted with Etan's babysitter.

A judge found Ramos responsible for the death and ordered him to pay the family $2 million. He never paid the money.

Though Ramos has been considered a key focus of the probe for years, he has never been charged in the case. He is serving a 20-year sentence in a Pennsylvania prison for molesting another boy and is set to be released later this year.

A source said investigators now also want to expand the pool of possible suspects beyond Ramos.

Stan and Julie Patz, Etan's parents, still live a block away from the scene and wouldn't comment on the new developments. A notice on the apartment building said, "To the hardworking and patient media people: The answer to all your questions at this time is 'no comment.' Please stop ringing our bell and calling for interviews."

Lisa Cohen, the author of "After Etan: The Missing Child Case That Held America Captive," told CNN that "the family's been living through this for 33 years. They've had many moments like this. They've learned how to deal with it."

Dozens of police and federal agents gathered outside the building on Manhattan's Prince Street on Thursday and are expected to continue their search over the next five days. FBI Special Agent Peter Donald said the bureau's Evidence Recovery Team is at the scene.

"We are cautiously optimistic" that the search will be helpful," FBI Special Agent Tim Flannelly said.

Forensic evidence uncovered at the scene will be analyzed at the FBI laboratory in Quantico, Virginia, sources said.

It is not clear whether authorities searched the basement in 1979, though a source said it "figured into" the investigation.

Authorities have reason to think the new search could lead to the discovery of the boy's remains at that location, though they remain wary after past leads in the case failed to pan out, according to two sources familiar with the probe.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Toler on April 20, 2012, 05:06:04 PM
Cops continue to search for clues in Etan Patz disappearance

Investigators carried rubble from a basement excavation site in lower Manhattan on Friday while searching for clues in the 1979 disappearance of a 6-year-old boy.
 
Utility workers with jackhammers and saws helped chip away an area around aging pipes, then law enforcers wearing workmen's gloves carried out the basketball-size chunks of rubble and carefully placed them in refuse bins.

The material will be sifted and then taken elsewhere for testing.
 
Etan Patz vanished in 1979 after leaving his family's SoHo home for a short walk to his school bus stop. He became America's missing child, the little boy who went off to school alone and vanished.
 
FBI and police had arrived Thursday at the building near his home. The renewed investigation recalls the years when printed images of missing children appeared on milk cartons.
 
Etan's disappearance on May 25, 1979, drew national attention to child safety, ushered in a generation of parents who became afraid to send their kids out alone and helped fuel a movement to publicize missing children's cases. President Ronald Reagan declared the day of the boy's disappearance National Missing Children's Day.
 
"The story really resonated and touched millions of moms and dads," said Ernie Allen, the president of the National Center for Exploited and Missing Children, which helped push the national milk carton campaign with Etan's image.
 
And Etan's image on milk cartons, the missing boy shown with thick blond locks and goofy grin, caught the public's imagination like no other. "Etan's photo became almost iconic," Allen said


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/cops_7MntUdyLncVYqcIlitBrcP#ixzz1scI5YKpB


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Toler on April 20, 2012, 10:53:31 PM
Handyman who befriended Etan Patz claims innocence as it emerges his basement could have been dug up 33 years ago but cops said it 'wasn't worth the cost'

The lawyer for the handyman who is the newest person of interest in the disappearance of Etan Patz said his client is innocent of any wrong-doing and has merely been helping police with their investigation.
Michael Farkas spoke to reporters outside the Brooklyn apartment of Othniel Miller, 75, to assure his client was a 'wonderful, hard-working man' who has been cooperating with the case for 30 years - though admired it was the first time he had ever met him.
His statement came on the same day it emerged that police had the opportunity to search the Manhattan basement formerly belonging to Miller which is now at the center of their investigation soon after the six-year-old went missing - but decided not to because it would be too costly.

The FBI and NYPD returned to the place they had considered taking jackhammers to 33 years ago after questioning handyman Miller several times over the last few months.  ::snipping2::


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132164/Etan-Patz-case-reopened-Police-search-apartment-Othniel-Miller-worked-Jose-Ramos.html#ixzz1sdhXw19j


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on April 21, 2012, 11:35:13 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/21/nyregion/etan-patz-search-methods-explained-by-experts.html
The Science of the Search for the Boy on the Milk Carton
April 21, 2012



Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: KittyMom on April 21, 2012, 04:51:43 PM
33 yrs is so long to hope for evidence to be found.  How many times was that basement cleaned or reworked to hide what might have been down there.  It is such a terrible shame that LE chose not to dig when this happened.  That gave someone a chance to move anything that might have been there.  Just a shame!


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: sharon on April 22, 2012, 08:25:25 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/22/justice/new-york-patz-probe/index.html

Official: Suspicious stain found in basement search for Etan Patz
From Susan Candiotti and Ross Levitt, CNN
updated 5:06 AM EDT, Sun April 22, 2012

New York (CNN) -- Investigators discovered a suspicious stain Saturday on a concrete wall while tearing apart a basement in their search for clues in the case of Etan Patz, a 6-year-old who disappeared more than three decades ago, a law enforcement official told CNN.

FBI agents, assisted by the New York Police Department, discovered the stain by spraying the chemical luminol, the law enforcement official said.

The chemical can indicate the presence of blood, but is not always conclusive, according to the official. At this time, the stain is described only as an area of interest.

Investigators used chainsaws to dig out a piece of the wall, which will be sent to the FBI laboratory in Virginia for analysis, the official said.

 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on April 22, 2012, 08:33:09 AM
Playroom eyed as hell cellar
Suspect used kiddie space as workshop

By KATHIANNE BONIELLO and KEVIN FASICK
Last Updated: 7:44 AM, April 22, 2012
Posted: 1:44 AM, April 22, 2012

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They are looking for evidence of death in a SoHo basement that once bustled with life.

Photos emerged yesterday that show beaming kids in the basement of 127 Prince St., where FBI investigators have been searching for evidence in the disappearance 33 years ago of Etan Patz.

The cellar that police now believe may hold the answers to the city’s most heart-wrenching mystery was a space transformed by industrious parents from a commercial cellar to a bright playground.

“We all got together and put down vinyl tiles on the floor and painted the walls,” said Donald Gangemi. “We wound up with 13 kids.”

The parents, lacking community facilities, chipped in to renovate the space, donated by an adjacent art gallery.

The room had no windows but ran the length of the building with a door to the outside, said Judy Reichler, one of the founding parents.

The basement would have been familiar territory to the Patz family. Etan’s older sister, Shira, was a play-group member, Reichler recalled.

But by 1979, the basement was also the domain of Othniel Miller, the now-75-year-old handyman known for doing odd jobs around the neighborhood who emerged this past week as a prime suspect in the case.

“He was a very good craftsman,” said Steve Kuzma, 78, building manager of nearby 133 Wooster St.

Just a day before Etan vanished in May 1979, he was in the basement, earning a buck from Miller for helping out in his workshop.

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After Etan’s disappearance, investigators looking for him noticed freshly poured concrete — although they never dug it up after being told they’d have to pay for repairs.


 ::snipping2::
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/playroom_eyed_as_hell_cellar_eNtvn1xXpAwjpZC0h63IjP#ixzz1sltavwSf



Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on April 22, 2012, 08:50:24 AM

FBI eyes SoHo handyman neighbor who was last seen with Etan 33 years ago

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FBI agents visited suspect Othniel Miller twice in the last three days as the decades-long cold case has been reopened

Etan Patz case: FBI eyes handyman neighbor Othniel Miller after 33 years
Miller was seen with the missing youth on the night before his abduction, and his former workspace in the basement of 127B Prince St. is now the focus of a full-scale excavation for remains and clues

By Corinne Lestch, Henrick Karoliszyn AND Larry Mcshane / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Published: Saturday, April 21, 2012, 8:51 PM
Updated: Sunday, April 22, 2012, 3:32 AM


The retired SoHo handyman suspected in the death of Etan Patz was visited Saturday for the second time in three days by FBI agents probing the reheated cold case.

Although Othniel Miller first started answering questions about the case 33 years ago, FBI agents stopped at his Brooklyn apartment again in the early morning, according to his daughter Stephanie.

“Give him some privacy,” she said of the sickly senior citizen, who had already met several times with the feds over the last month.

The sudden, sustained interest in the 75-year-old man came as the investigation took a dramatic turn this week, with a joint FBI/NYPD team returning to the neighborhood where Patz disappeared.

Miller was seen with the missing youth on the night before his abduction, and his former workspace in the basement of 127B Prince St. is now the focus of a full-scale excavation for remains and clues.

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Stan Patz watches the investigation from his fire escape over Prince St.


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Retired handyman Othniel Miller after questioning on Thursday.

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Jose Ramos in a 2010 mug shot from the Penn. Dept. of Corrections.

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Etan Patz, who vanished on May 25, 1979, on his way to school.


The FBI also questioned a man named Jesse Snell, who had done work for Miller, as part of the recent probe, law enforcement sources said.

Miller’s daughter told the Daily News this week that the FBI was trying to track down several of her father’s former employees.

The dig — just a few doors down the SoHo street from the Patz residence — was in its third day Saturday, and could last through Tuesday.

“The FBI evidence team will be here for as long as it takes,” said FBI spokesman Peter Donald.

Sources said Saturday that a stain from an unknown substance was found on cinder blocks in the basement Thursday, and is being tested.Miller’s ex-wife — in an allegation yet to be confirmed by authorities — told the FBI last year that her 1986 divorce from the Jamaican native was prompted by his sexual assault on a niece, sources told The News.

Miller insisted that he had an alibi for the day of that incident, although the source said his story could not be corroborated or refuted by the feds. And the niece has never been located.

 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/etan-patz-case-fbi-eye-handyman-neighbor-othniel-miller-33-years-article-1.1065531#ixzz1slyHtaxQ


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: klaasend on April 22, 2012, 01:08:50 PM
NEW BLINK POST:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2012/04/22/boy-in-the-basement-is-etan-patz-the-prince-of-prince-street/

Boy In The Basement: Is Etan Patz The Prince of Prince Street?


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on April 22, 2012, 02:16:32 PM
I was talking with a co-worker the other day about this case.  The conversation lead to her saying that she didn't want him to be found in there because it was only a few doors down from where he lived after all these years of looking for him.  I told her that I hope they do find him there to give the family closure.  I said I want to be the person to bury my child.  I didn't want a child molester to have the claim of burring a life I brought into this world.  She looked at me and said when you say it that way you are right.  She said I was just thinking about how hurtful it would be to the parents.  I said either way it's going to be hurtful.  I want to take away the satisfaction this monster had thinking he was going to get away with what he did.  JMO.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 22, 2012, 02:50:07 PM
Well said, San   ::rhino::   :smt023


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Blink34 on April 22, 2012, 03:22:48 PM
I was talking with a co-worker the other day about this case.  The conversation lead to her saying that she didn't want him to be found in there because it was only a few doors down from where he lived after all these years of looking for him.  I told her that I hope they do find him there to give the family closure.  I said I want to be the person to bury my child.  I didn't want a child molester to have the claim of burring a life I brought into this world.  She looked at me and said when you say it that way you are right.  She said I was just thinking about how hurtful it would be to the parents.  I said either way it's going to be hurtful.  I want to take away the satisfaction this monster had thinking he was going to get away with what he did.  JMO.

In my experience, you are exactly right.  I have never heard a family of a missing loved one say they would rather never find them if the death was heinous or some other form or horror.

I also feel strongly that finding Etan will be a huge win in the hope category for many families missing their children in unsolved cases.  The Patz's are also deeply religious people and laying their son to rest is very important to them.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: klaasend on April 22, 2012, 03:23:02 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/22/suspicious-stain-found-in-new-york-city-basement-in-search-for-etan-patz-source/ (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/22/suspicious-stain-found-in-new-york-city-basement-in-search-for-etan-patz-source/)

Stain found in New York City basement in search for Etan Patz could be blood, source says

By Cristina Corbin

Published April 22, 2012

FoxNews.com

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Authorities are testing a suspicious stain found on the wall of a basement being searched in the decades-old disappearance of 6-year-old Etan Patz, a source close to the case told FoxNews.com.

The source says when investigators sprayed Luminol on a wall in the basement, they detected "an organic substance" -- "possibly blood" -- and that the stain has been taken away for further testing. So far, about 50 percent of the basement has been removed.
 ::snipping2::





Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on April 22, 2012, 10:42:49 PM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303592404577360344046456070.html
No Remains Found in Dig
Authorities Suspend Search of SoHo Basement in Investigation of Etan Patz Case
April 22, 2012

Investigators searching a Soho basement for clues to the 1979 disappearance of a 6-year-old Manhattan boy have found no obvious human remains and suspended their efforts on Sunday, said a law-enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation.

The New York Police Department and Federal Bureau of Investigation met Sunday with the family of Etan Patz, who vanished on his way to the school bus 33 years ago. They found items of interest in the basement and are testing them, the official said.
Officials said they planned to shut down the investigation scene on Prince Street on Monday afternoon.

Earlier on Sunday, an FBI spokesman said inclement weather, including heavy rains and high winds, had forced investigators to halt their probe for "operational reasons."

"Our on scene commander decided that suspending operations was the best thing today," said spokesman J. Peter Donald. "We suspended for operational reasons, and I don't want to get into what those reasons are.... We will be back as long as it's needed to complete a through investigation of the crime scene. We will be here as long as it takes."

The FBI declined to comment on developments in the case.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on April 22, 2012, 10:44:12 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sns-rt-usa-newyorkboy-update-2l2e8fm1yn-20120422,0,1946528.story
UPDATE 2-Search for long missing NY boy fails to find remains
April 22, 2012

(3 pgs.)


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on April 23, 2012, 06:46:10 AM
Sad tale of Etan Patz still grips city

33 years later and missing child's story continues to haunt


NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Published: Sunday, April 22, 2012, 11:08 PM
Updated: Monday, April 23, 2012, 4:00 AM


It all comes back now in a rush, nearly 33 years after a 6-year-old boy named Etan Patz went missing on the walk from his home on Prince St. to a school bus stop on West Broadway and changed the life of this city forever.

There had been other children abducted before in New York. But somehow the disappearance of this boy, one whose beautiful, smiling face was instantly known to us all, was like some kind of terrorist attack to the city’s heart. Etan Patz was not safe on the streets of his own neighborhood and in that moment no child was safe.

And from the start, the people working the case or just familiar with it thought the boy had never made it out of the neighborhood. They just could not find evidence of that, could not find Etan Patz, who in those days became everybody’s child.

“Nobody ever really thought that some stranger pulled up in a Chevy Malibu and made off with this boy,” Linda Fairstein was saying Sunday.

 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/sad-tale-etan-grips-city-article-1.1065830#ixzz1srJY2LaL


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: jamcakes on April 23, 2012, 07:41:51 AM
I agree with everyone that bringing the loved home and knowing finally what happened is s important to a family of a missing loved one.  It's also important to let the perps know they can never escape their crime and think they got away with it.  No matter how old they are, they can still be held accountable.

It's a shame that the NYPD didn't feel they needed to dig up this basement all those years ago.  They may have found Etan or the clues needed to find him and his murderer.

All these years later, all they may have done is churned up the pain and anxiety in Etan's loved ones.  And possibly struck fear into an aged killer's heart.  Perhaps the best we can hope for is that Etan's killer come forward and do the right thing before he dies.

I do wonder whether the NYPD will continue to keep this case active or whether they will once again file it as a cold case.  Would the financial resources used to keep this case  open be better used someplace else?

That's a moral and ethical choice I'm glad I don't have to make.  But one that certainly needs to be addressed.  When the LE stops investigating, are we sure they did all they can do or are they simply giving up? Or are they relegating their resources to a newer case in their never ending supply of missing persons?  Another question that comes to mind, are we doing enough as LE and concerned citizens to prevent so many loved ones from going missing in the first place?  Is 48 hours too long to wait in the case of an adult?

Just some deep thoughts on the subject I wanted to share......


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on April 23, 2012, 08:13:32 AM
I agree with everyone that bringing the loved home and knowing finally what happened is s important to a family of a missing loved one.  It's also important to let the perps know they can never escape their crime and think they got away with it.  No matter how old they are, they can still be held accountable.

It's a shame that the NYPD didn't feel they needed to dig up this basement all those years ago.  They may have found Etan or the clues needed to find him and his murderer.

All these years later, all they may have done is churned up the pain and anxiety in Etan's loved ones.  And possibly struck fear into an aged killer's heart.  Perhaps the best we can hope for is that Etan's killer come forward and do the right thing before he dies.

I do wonder whether the NYPD will continue to keep this case active or whether they will once again file it as a cold case.  Would the financial resources used to keep this case  open be better used someplace else?

That's a moral and ethical choice I'm glad I don't have to make.  But one that certainly needs to be addressed.  When the LE stops investigating, are we sure they did all they can do or are they simply giving up? Or are they relegating their resources to a newer case in their never ending supply of missing persons?  Another question that comes to mind, are we doing enough as LE and concerned citizens to prevent so many loved ones from going missing in the first place?  Is 48 hours too long to wait in the case of an adult?

Just some deep thoughts on the subject I wanted to share......

I agree that it is important to let the perps know they didn't get away with their crime.  Imagine if the LE gave up on most cold cases.  We would have a lot of people breathing easy thinking they got away with murder.  LE needs to keep the fear in their hearts that they will always be looking.

I have always wondered why they never dug up the basement 30 years ago.  I have read they the LE didn't have the resources to do so.  If I were the owner of that building and I knew that two of the perps worked from my basement I would have give the LE card blanche to do what they needed to do.

I have read where Othniel Miller blurted out to the police "what if they moved the body" on one of their visits to question him.  Now why would he say something like that.  Makes you wonder.

Cy Vance promised this family that he would reopen this case if he was elected.  He kept his promise.

We as citizens can only do so much to help LE.  We can't do their jobs for them.  They get paid for what they do.  What we can do is keep a watchful eye on suspicious activity and report it.  We can't do their jobs because we are not trained they way they are.  Like the saying goes "If you see something say something".

I think this case was reopened because of all the new technology available to help assist in the search for Etan.  If DNA testing wasn't available I don't think they would have reopened this case.

JMO


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on April 23, 2012, 08:29:49 AM
Search of basement in Etan Patz case expected to resume Monday

NEW YORK –  Investigators searching for clues in the decades-old disappearance of 6-year-old Etan Patz will resume their search of a basement near his New York City home Monday morning.

FBI spokesman Jim Margolin told Fox affiliate WNYW-TV that the search of the basement was halted Sunday due to rain and other factors.

A source close to the case told FoxNews.com that authorities are testing a suspicious stain found on one of the basement's walls on Saturday. The source said when investigators sprayed Luminol on the wall, they detected "an organic substance" -- "possibly blood."

The basement being searched is the former workspace of retired handyman Othniel Miller, 75, who was seen with Patz the night before he disappeared from Manhattan's SoHo neighborhood in 1979.

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Quote
The focus of the investigation shifted to Miller after investigators received new leads in the case. Miller, originally from Jamaica, was interviewed after the boy disappeared and had what authorities deemed a solid alibi at the time.

Authorities, however, noticed that Miller had a newly cemented concrete floor around the time of Etan's disappearance, but opted not to dig it up.

A source close to the case said "there is truth to that" when asked about news reports that Miller blurted out "What if the body was moved?" when taken by police to the basement in recent days.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/23/search-basement-in-etan-patz-case-expected-to-resume-monday/#ixzz1srjXuNZk




Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: KittyMom on April 23, 2012, 11:43:12 AM
This case is one reason I see a need to use whatever means necessary to get info from perps.  Pump them full of drugs, waterboard them, what ever it takes.  Because, when you think about it, they torture their poor victims in even more horrible ways.  Then, as in this case, they spend 33 yrs torturing the family of the victim. 

Treating these monsters like delicate flowers only serves to feed their sickness.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: yuknomenot on April 23, 2012, 11:49:17 AM
This case is one reason I see a need to use whatever means necessary to get info from perps.  Pump them full of drugs, waterboard them, what ever it takes.  Because, when you think about it, they torture their poor victims in even more horrible ways.  Then, as in this case, they spend 33 yrs torturing the family of the victim. 

Treating these monsters like delicate flowers only serves to feed their sickness.
::rhino::


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on April 23, 2012, 01:33:46 PM
This case is one reason I see a need to use whatever means necessary to get info from perps.  Pump them full of drugs, waterboard them, what ever it takes.  Because, when you think about it, they torture their poor victims in even more horrible ways.  Then, as in this case, they spend 33 yrs torturing the family of the victim. 

Treating these monsters like delicate flowers only serves to feed their sickness.

I agree.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: flutter1 on April 23, 2012, 02:37:17 PM
This case is one reason I see a need to use whatever means necessary to get info from perps.  Pump them full of drugs, waterboard them, what ever it takes.  Because, when you think about it, they torture their poor victims in even more horrible ways.  Then, as in this case, they spend 33 yrs torturing the family of the victim. 

Treating these monsters like delicate flowers only serves to feed their sickness.
::rhino::
::rhino:: ::MonkeyHang:: ::rhino::


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Nut44x4 on April 23, 2012, 02:59:14 PM
 ::snipping2::

The FBI said late Monday morning that they had finished with their work at the site in lower Manhattan. Although chief police spokesman Paul Browne says the case remains a missing-person investigation, investigators found no obvious human remains.

The New York Times reports that an FBI statement said it had "concluded the on-site portion of the search. The street and local businesses will be reopened."

Authorities had originally said that the search has been expected to take five days. The search was authorized by a warrant issued by a State Supreme Court judge.

According to CNN, a field test on a possible bloodstain found in the basement was negative, sources said. That stain, possible strands of hair, and a piece of paper is being sent to an FBI laboratory in Virginia to be analyzed.

 ::snipping2::
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57419016-504083/etan-patz-search-ends-investigators-say-no-obvious-sign-of-human-remains-found-in-nyc-basement/
April 23, 2012 11:58 AM


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on April 24, 2012, 11:22:29 PM
Patz investigation a 33-year-long roller-coaster ride

By Michael Pearson, CNN
updated 5:42 PM EDT, Tue April 24, 2012


http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/24/justice/new-york-patz-probe/index.html?hpt=hp_c3

(CNN) -- It seemed a promising development, a team of investigators tearing up a basement in hopes of answering a three-decade-old question: What happened to Etan Patz?

It was a tantalizing lead offering hope that investigators would solve the mystery -- at last -- of what happened to the 6-year-old boy who disappeared on his way to the school bus stop 33 years ago.

There have been a series of such leads over the years in the case, which changed the nation's attitudes toward children's safety and helped launch the missing children's movement.

First there was the drifter living in a drainage tunnel with pictures of boys who looked eerily similar to Etan. A rash of false leads that took investigators as far afield as Israel chasing look-alikes. Then, most recently, a cadaver dog picking up the scent of human remains in a basement near Etan's home.

Each time, the result has been the same: sometimes a few answers, often more questions, and rarely anything resembling the full truth for Etan's parents, Stan and Julie Patz.

The family has endured years of crank calls and far-fetched theories on the home telephone number they never changed in hope Etan might some day try to call.

"They exacted the biggest emotional cost, riding Stan and Julie on a steep vertical incline up the tracks, to plunge straight back down to hell every time," journalist Lisa Cohen writes in her definitive account of the case, "After Etan: The Missing Child Case That Held America Captive."

Such dramatic ups and downs have long been part-and-parcel of the investigation into Etan's disappearance.

In the days and weeks after he went missing in May, 1979, police, the family and neighborhood volunteers worked tirelessly tracking down leads, according to Cohen.

In the two weeks following Etan's disappearance, police put in more than 4,000 hours on the case, interviewing some 500 people, Cohen writes in her book.

Police cruisers swarmed the neighborhood as volunteers plastered the area with 10,000 posters, according to Cohen's account.

Then came the first letdown.

The police officers who'd camped in the Patz home, answering phones and dispatching detectives to follow up on possible leads, packed up and left, the emergency phase of the response over.

In their place, they left a legal pad next to the phone and instructions to log each call. What had been a stream of calls slowed to a trickle, but kept coming, with their stories of boys matching Etan's description seen in places near and far.

None panned out.

Three years later, in 1982, the roller-coaster would start its climb again with reports that a man, Juan Antonio Ramos, had swiped a boy's book bag and tried to lure him and another boy into the drainage tunnel where he was living.

Police found photos of young boys among the man's possessions, and took them to Etan's parents to see if their son was one of them.

"Almost three years into their ordeal, the half-formed scab covering their private life and private pain was being picked off yet again to ooze fresh blood," Cohen wrote in her book. "They greeted the news with the now familiar mix of trepidation tinged with the faint hope, one that could never be discounted, that new exposure could yield new information."

The case didn't pan out, at least initially, and Ramos vanished.

Interest moved on to other reports, Cohen wrote in her book: A photo in Israel, another in Massachusetts. A cab driver who said he picked up the boy the morning of his disappearance.

Like the other leads, nothing came of them.

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Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: flutter1 on April 25, 2012, 03:21:28 PM
God please bring closure to these parents  who have endured the ultimate suffering for the last 33 years.  Just as Mary wept for her son, Jesus, the Patz have cried rivers of tears for their lost Etan.  The answer you give them will probably not bring them their son to hold and love in their arms, but it will give them the peace of mind of performing the last loving act that one loved one can do for another.  I pray for this in the name of your son, Amen.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: KittyMom on April 25, 2012, 10:43:34 PM
God please bring closure to these parents  who have endured the ultimate suffering for the last 33 years.  Just as Mary wept for her son, Jesus, the Patz have cried rivers of tears for their lost Etan.  The answer you give them will probably not bring them their son to hold and love in their arms, but it will give them the peace of mind of performing the last loving act that one loved one can do for another.  I pray for this in the name of your son, Amen.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Lord, hear our cry.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on May 06, 2012, 10:23:26 AM
http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20120501/upper-west-side-morningside-heights/etan-patz-is-not-alone-15-missing-child-cases-nyc-remain-unsolved
Etan Patz is Not Alone: 15 Missing Child Cases in NYC Remain Unsolved
May 1, 2012



Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: melisb on May 24, 2012, 07:36:41 AM
Twitter going crazy with multiple news agencies reporting that a person has implicated himself in Etan's death and now in custody!  Dear God let's hope this is true for his parents sake.  I hope not another fame seeker.  On a small tablet with little reception and can't get a link. Sorry! 


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: melisb on May 24, 2012, 07:41:12 AM
@abc7chicago says story will be on GMA!

Edit to add twitter link.  MB
https://twitter.com/#!/@abc7chicago (https://twitter.com/#!/@abc7chicago)


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Red on May 24, 2012, 07:45:27 AM
Arrest Made in the 1979 Etan Patz Missing Persons Case … Suspect in Custody

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2012/05/24/arrest-made-in-the-1979-etan-patz-missing-persons-case/

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New York City Police Commissioner Ray Kelly has stated that there has been an arrest made in the 1979 Etan Patz missing persons case.  After all this time, could it be true? Could there finally be answers as to what happened to Etan Patz who disappeared in 1979 as we was on his way to school. Etan Patz vanished on May 25, 1979, while walking alone to his school bus stop for the first time just two blocks from his home in New York’s SoHo home.  Could there finally be Justice for Etan?

 ::snipping2::

Fox News this morning, police state that He [the suspect] has made statements implicating himself in the case.

This is just tremndous news and if this is the guy, a great shot in the arm to missing perosns cases.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Red on May 24, 2012, 07:47:38 AM
NJ Man Being Questioned in Etan Patz Disappearance

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Etan-Patz-Disappearance-Man-Questioning-153536105.html

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The NYPD is questioning a New Jersey man in connection with the disappearance of Etan Patz, the 6-year-old boy who vanished more than 30 years ago as he walked to the school bus from his SoHo home, NBC 4 New York first reported Thursday.

Police picked the man up sometime Wednesday evening and brought him to New York City for questioning, sources said.

The man is known to investigators and not anyone new in the case, law enforcement sources say. He worked and lived in Patz's neighborhood when the boy disappeared.
::snipping2::

The man is known to investigators and worked in the area. Police are supposed to provide more details today.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Red on May 24, 2012, 07:48:39 AM
Twitter going crazy with multiple news agencies reporting that a person has implicated himself in Etan's death and now in custody!  Dear God let's hope this is true for his parents sake.  I hope not another fame seeker.  On a small tablet with little reception and can't get a link. Sorry! 

I so hope this is it. After 33 years these parents deserve a break.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 24, 2012, 07:54:01 AM
Indeed......

links to follow

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/24/justice/new-york-etan-patz-twists/

http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2012/05/suspect_in_etan_patz_case_has.html

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/24/man-claims-role-in-disappearance-of-etan-patz-police-say/

http://www.fox10tv.com/dpps/news/national/northeast/nypd-says-person-implicated-in-etan-patz-death-nt12-jgr_4184936

http://www.myfoxny.com/story/18612583/suspect-in-death-of-etan-patz-in-custody-in-new-york


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on May 24, 2012, 09:32:51 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/nypd-person-implicated-etan-patz-death-16419283
NYPD: Person Implicated in Etan Patz Death
By COLLEEN LONG and JENNIFER PELTZ Associated Press
May 24, 2012

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This undated image provided Friday, May 28, 2010 by Stanley K. Patz shows Patz's son Etan who vanished in New York on May 25, 1979. (Stanley K. Patz/AP Photo)


A law enforcement official says a man in custody who has implicated himself in the death of 6-year-old Etan Patz (AY'-tahn payts) was picked up late Wednesday in Camden, N.J., and has been tied to the case in the past.

The man was being questioned Thursday by the Manhattan District Attorney's office, which is heading the probe by the FBI and police.

A person familiar with the investigation says the man's emergence as a person of interest was not related to the search of a Manhattan basement in April.

Investigators are still trying to confirm details of the man's story.
 ::snipping2::

Video at Link


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: labubske on May 24, 2012, 09:48:27 AM
 ::snipping2::
Officials say that the suspect in their custody, Pedro Hernandez, has implicated himself in the death of the little boy
 ::snipping2::

http://abcnews.go.com/US/etan-patz-suspect-implicated-boys-death/story?id=16419936#.T746scVdDLQ


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 24, 2012, 10:02:48 AM
Twitter going crazy with multiple news agencies reporting that a person has implicated himself in Etan's death and now in custody!  Dear God let's hope this is true for his parents sake.  I hope not another fame seeker.  On a small tablet with little reception and can't get a link. Sorry! 

I so hope this is it. After 33 years these parents deserve a break.

I agree.

Janet


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 24, 2012, 10:11:12 AM
Man in custody in decades-old cold case of missing boy Etan Patz, police say
Published May 24, 2012


<snipped>

The Patz family, who has remained in the same apartment for 33 years in the hopes their son would one day return home, has not commented on the recent developments.
 
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/24/suspect-in-custody-in-decades-old-cold-case-missing-boy-etan-patz-police-say/



Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 24, 2012, 10:15:08 AM
Man in custody in decades-old cold case of missing boy Etan Patz, police say
Published May 24, 2012


A New Jersey man once looked at as a possible suspect in the disappearance and death of 6-year-old Etan Patz has "implicated" himself in the decades-old case, the New York City Police commissioner said. 

Law enforcement sources told the New York Post that the man's name is Pedro Hernandez, though police have not yet released his identity. Sources said the man was previously questioned by investigators and is not a new figure in the 33-year-old cold case.

<snipped>

Local news website DNAinfo, quoting sources within the New York City Police Department, said the man told officers, "I did it." But FBI sources told Fox News that they were skeptical over the claim.

New York City police commissioner Raymond Kelly said in a statement Thursday that "an individual now in custody has made statements to NYPD detectives implicating himself in the disappearance and death of Etan Patz 33 years ago."

"We expect to provide further details later today," Kelly said.

The man in custody allegedly told investigators that he lured the boy with candy, stabbed him, cut up his remains and put him in plastic bags, according to the New York Post.

The man was reportedly arrested in Camden, N.J., on Wednesday and taken to New York City for questioning by the Manhattan district attorney's office. He worked and lived in the neighborhood where the boy disappeared.

<snipped>

Investigators have long focused their attention on Jose Ramos, a drifter and onetime boyfriend of Etan's baby sitter. In the early 1980s, he was arrested on theft charges, and had photos of other young, blond boys in his backpack. But there was no hard evidence linking Ramos to the crime.

Ramos, now 68, reportedly admitted trying to molest Etan on the day of his disappearance, but denied abducting him or killing him. Ramos has never been charged criminally in the Patz case and is currently serving a 20-year prison term in Pennsylvania for abusing an 8-year-old boy there. Ramos is scheduled to be released from prison in November.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/24/suspect-in-custody-in-decades-old-cold-case-missing-boy-etan-patz-police-say/


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 24, 2012, 11:13:53 AM
Etan Patz case: New Jersey man claims he lured 6-year-old with candy then stabbed him to death


Former bodega worker being questioned in cold case that gripped the nation

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The former SoHo bodega worker being questioned in connection with the disappearance of Etan Patz told police he lured the boy into his clutches with candy — then stabbed him to death, police sources said Thursday.

Pedro Hernandez told detectives he then stuffed the 6-year-old boy in either one bag — or possibly several bags, the sources said.

If Hernandez’s horrifying admissions are proved true, they would solve a heartbreaking mystery that has bedeviled investigators — and tortured his parents — for 33 years.

Some sleuths buy Hernandez’s story, sources said. Others fear this could be yet another frustrating dead end.

Word that Hernandez was being grilled came a day before the anniversary of Etan’s disappearance — a day detectives often get deluged with hoaxes and false leads related to the case.

Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly, who is in London for a meeting on safeguarding the upcoming Olympics, confirmed cops were grilling a possible suspect.

 ::snipping2::
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/etan-patz-case-nypd-person-custody-implicates-6-year-old-disappearance-death-article-1.1083765#ixzz1vnecamKR


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 24, 2012, 11:20:52 AM
Man Confesses to Strangling Etan Patz, Police Say

By WILLIAM K. RASHBAUM and JOSEPH GOLDSTEIN

A man in custody in Manhattan has confessed to strangling Etan Patz, the 6-year-old boy who vanished in SoHo on his way to school in 1979, wrapping his body in a bag and putting it in a box, a law enforcement official said on Thursday.

The man, Pedro Hernandez, told investigators that he left the box at a location in Manhattan, but when he returned several days later the box was no longer there, the official said. Investigators recently took Mr. Hernandez to that localtion. A second official also said that Mr. Hernandez told the authorities he had strangled the boy and discarded his body.

Shortly after Etan’s disappearance, Mr. Hernandez, who in 1979 worked at a bodega near where the boy disappeared, moved to the Camden area, where he has many relatives, a law enforcement official said.

Investigators interviewed Mr. Hernandez for much of the day on Wednesday in the prosecutor’s office in Camden County in southern New Jersey.

Mr. Hernandez was taken into custody late Wednesday in New Jersey and was taken to the office of the Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., whose prosecutors are overseeing the inquiry by New York police detectives and agents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

 ::snipping2::

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/24/man-claims-role-in-disappearance-of-etan-patz-police-say/?hp


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: labubske on May 24, 2012, 11:24:00 AM
So two different reports from this man...on how he killed Ethan.  I hope that he is not some sicko that is just saying that he did it and leading LE down the wrong path.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: melisb on May 24, 2012, 11:25:15 AM
Starting to sound like another mentally-off, fame claimer!  I was so hoping this was an end.  Maybe so, I dunno?


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 24, 2012, 11:27:52 AM
Man questioned in disappearance of Etan Patz in 1979

By John Bacon, USA TODAY

New York police are questioning a New Jersey man in connection with the disappearance of Etan Patz, the 6-year-old boy who made national news more than 30 years ago when he vanished as he walked to a school bus.

"An individual now in custody has made statements to NYPD detectives implicating himself in the disappearance and death of Etan Patz 33 years ago. We expect to provide further details later today," Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said in a statement.

Update at 10:28 a.m. ET:The New York Times, citing an unidentified law enforcement official, says the man's name is Pedro Hernandez. The Times also had posted some other details, then dropped them from their site.

STORY:  Case heated up last month

Original post: NBC 4 New York and other news outlets, citing undisclosed law enforcement sources, report that police picked the man up late Wednesday and brought him to New York City for questioning.

The station also warns that some NYPD officials are skeptical about the man's story, noting that he lived and worked in Patz's Manhattan neighborhood when the boy disappeared but had not provided details that would lead them to Patz's body.

 ::snipping2::

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/05/man-questioned-in-disappearance-of-etan-patz/1


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 24, 2012, 11:29:01 AM
Starting to sound like another mentally-off, fame claimer!  I was so hoping this was an end.  Maybe so, I dunno?

I agree.  We need to hear more information about this latest arrest.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on May 24, 2012, 11:29:55 AM
So two different reports from this man...on how he killed Ethan.  I hope that he is not some sicko that is just saying that he did it and leading LE down the wrong path.

I wondered the same thing.  Is this another nut case like John Mark Karr who gave a false confession in the murder case of JonBenet Ramsey?

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 24, 2012, 11:47:04 AM
So two different reports from this man...on how he killed Ethan.  I hope that he is not some sicko that is just saying that he did it and leading LE down the wrong path.

labubske

It appears that this guy did not emerge from a vacuum.  According to the following article he was once a person of interested in the disappearance of this little boy.

The method of killing?  Could it have been a combination of both accounts that has spewed from the lips of this sicko?

If Pedro Hernandez has grown a conscience and what he is revealing is the truth ... the parents of Etan Patz will be afforded a measure of closure.

God must provide emotional strength as it is required because I cannot imagine how I would get through the days, months and years of not knowing what happened to child. 

Janet

+++++ 


Man in custody in decades-old cold case of missing boy Etan Patz, police say
Published May 24, 2012


A New Jersey man once looked at as a possible suspect  in the disappearance and death of 6-year-old Etan Patz has "implicated" himself in the decades-old case, the New York City Police commissioner said. 

Law enforcement sources told the New York Post that the man's name is Pedro Hernandez, though police have not yet released his identity. Sources said the man was previously questioned by investigators and is not a new figure in the 33-year-old cold case.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/24/suspect-in-custody-in-decades-old-cold-case-missing-boy-etan-patz-police-say/


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: labubske on May 24, 2012, 12:31:03 PM
So two different reports from this man...on how he killed Ethan.  I hope that he is not some sicko that is just saying that he did it and leading LE down the wrong path.

labubske

It appears that this guy did not emerge from a vacuum.  According to the following article he was once a person of interested in the disappearance of this little boy.

The method of killing?  Could it have been a combination of both accounts that has spewed from the lips of this sicko?

If Pedro Hernandez has grown a conscience and what he is revealing is the truth ... the parents of Etan Patz will be afforded a measure of closure.

God must provide emotional strength as it is required because I cannot imagine how I would get through the days, months and years of not knowing what happened to child. 

Janet

+++++ 


Man in custody in decades-old cold case of missing boy Etan Patz, police say
Published May 24, 2012


A New Jersey man once looked at as a possible suspect  in the disappearance and death of 6-year-old Etan Patz has "implicated" himself in the decades-old case, the New York City Police commissioner said. 

Law enforcement sources told the New York Post that the man's name is Pedro Hernandez, though police have not yet released his identity. Sources said the man was previously questioned by investigators and is not a new figure in the 33-year-old cold case.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/24/suspect-in-custody-in-decades-old-cold-case-missing-boy-etan-patz-police-say/


Yes, he very well could be the killer...since he was looked at as a possible suspect early on.  It is just odd that he gave two different accounts...even down to what he placed Ethan in after he killed him.  True it could be a combination.  For the family, I pray that this is the killer and that part of the agony is over.  So sad.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: jamcakes on May 24, 2012, 01:08:18 PM
Man Claims He Strangled Patz and Put Body in Box, Police Say

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/25/nyregion/man-claims-he-strangled-etan-patz-police-say.html

A man in custody in Manhattan has confessed to strangling Etan Patz, the 6-year-old boy who vanished in SoHo on his way to school in 1979, wrapping his body in a bag and putting it in a box, a law enforcement official said on Thursday.


The man, Pedro Hernandez, told investigators that he left the box at a location in Manhattan, but when he returned several days later the box was no longer there, the official said. Investigators recently took Mr. Hernandez to that location. A second official also said that Mr. Hernandez told the authorities he had strangled the boy and discarded his body.
 ::snipping2::


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: jamcakes on May 24, 2012, 01:11:03 PM
I'm so sorry, it seems I duplicated an already posted article.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Tamikosmom on May 24, 2012, 01:19:56 PM
Man Confesses to Strangling Etan Patz, Police Say

By WILLIAM K. RASHBAUM and JOSEPH GOLDSTEIN

A man in custody in Manhattan has confessed to strangling Etan Patz, the 6-year-old boy who vanished in SoHo on his way to school in 1979, wrapping his body in a bag and putting it in a box, a law enforcement official said on Thursday.

The man, Pedro Hernandez, told investigators that he left the box at a location in Manhattan, but when he returned several days later the box was no longer there, the official said. Investigators recently took Mr. Hernandez to that localtion. A second official also said that Mr. Hernandez told the authorities he had strangled the boy and discarded his body.

Shortly after Etan’s disappearance, Mr. Hernandez, who in 1979 worked at a bodega near where the boy disappeared, moved to the Camden area, where he has many relatives, a law enforcement official said.

Investigators interviewed Mr. Hernandez for much of the day on Wednesday in the prosecutor’s office in Camden County in southern New Jersey.

Mr. Hernandez was taken into custody late Wednesday in New Jersey and was taken to the office of the Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., whose prosecutors are overseeing the inquiry by New York police detectives and agents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

 ::snipping2::

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/24/man-claims-role-in-disappearance-of-etan-patz-police-say/?hp

Does anybody know the time of the press conference?  Maybe there will be some clarification.

Considering there is no body to confirm the truth of Pedro Hernandez story/stories ... I hope he has submitted to a polygraph.  Etan's parents ongoing nightmare of not-knowing must come to an end.

Janet

 


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: KittyMom on May 24, 2012, 01:20:05 PM
I wonder what might have led LE back to this guy after all these years?


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: flutter1 on May 24, 2012, 04:28:47 PM
For the sake of the parents, I really want to believe this confession.  I would feel more confidence in it if it weren't for Juan Antonio Ramos's statement that he tried to lure Etan and another boy into his lair but wasn't successful. 

Who knows, maybe both Ramos and Hernandez are lunies who get off on making confessions.  Which is worse:  Not knowing what happened to your child or a false confession that closes the case?    :2brickwall:


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 24, 2012, 04:40:34 PM
From the New York Post
(http://www.nypost.com/r/nypost/2012/05/24/news/web_photos/test2161222--525x415.jpg)

Pedro Hernandez.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/person_in_custody_in_patz_disappearance_eEcUgDAqlekvwMV0B4QMyJ



Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Northern Rose on May 24, 2012, 05:25:27 PM
abvn ‏@abvn
Every year (Etan's bday & disappearnc),Stan Patz has sent Ramos copy of his missin child poster.On the back "What did u do 2 my little boy?"

https://twitter.com/#!/abvn (https://twitter.com/#!/abvn)


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: melisb on May 24, 2012, 06:34:57 PM
abvn ‏@abvn
Every year (Etan's bday & disappearnc),Stan Patz has sent Ramos copy of his missin child poster.On the back "What did u do 2 my little boy?"

https://twitter.com/#!/abvn (https://twitter.com/#!/abvn)

WOW!  And this man never fired back at Mr. Patz or responded with some kind of stop harassing me type of letter?  Geez, if I was innocent I wouldn't let this go on, kinda makes you think he kept opening the letter/flier (if he did)because he does have some type of guilty conscience?  Weirdo!  I hope this is true for the Patz family's sake!


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 24, 2012, 07:30:07 PM
Etan Patz case: New Jersey man claims he lured 6-year-old with candy then stabbed him to death

Former bodega worker being questioned in boy's 1979 disappearance
Comments (104)


By Jennifer H. Cunningham, Matthew Lysiak, Greg B. Smith, Rocco Parascandola AND Corky Siemaszko / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Published: Thursday, May 24, 2012, 6:55 AM
Updated: Thursday, May 24, 2012, 7:13 PM


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This is the man "Inside Edition" has identified as Pedro Hernandez, the former SoHo bodega owner who is being questioned in the disappearance of Etan Patz.

DEVELOPING: Pedro Hernandez arrested in murder of Etan Patz; First arrest ever made in 6-year-old's 1979 disappearance

A former SoHo bodega worker now being questioned in connection with the 1979 disappearance of Etan Patz told cops he lured the boy into his clutches with candy — then strangled him, police sources said Thursday.

Pedro Hernandez claims he then stuffed the 6-year-old boy’s body in a bag, placed that in a box,
and took it to a hiding place, the sources said.

Hernandez, 51, said when he returned two days later to collect the box — it was gone, the sources said.

If Hernandez’s horrifying admissions are proved true, they would solve a heartbreaking mystery that has bedeviled investigators — and tortured Etan’s parents — for 33 years.

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Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/etan-patz-case-nypd-person-custody-implicates-6-year-old-disappearance-death-article-1.1083765#ixzz1vpgXDtk6


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 24, 2012, 07:33:58 PM
Police Commissioner Ray Kelly is saying they have their man.

This guy worked as a stock clerk at the bodega.

A reporter asked if he had any children and Ray Kelly said he had one child and it's a girl.

They believed he was lured in the basement.

Mr. Hernandez made a promise of a soda to Etan and lead him down the stairs.

Suspect Pedro Hernandez to be arraigned tomorrow.



Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 24, 2012, 07:37:18 PM
Ray Kelly said the detectives believe in the credibility of the statement.

He does not think the body will ever be found.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 24, 2012, 07:45:19 PM
This guy had to be about 18 when he committed this crime.  Etan probably trusted him because he was a teen himself. Kids trust kids.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: KittyMom on May 24, 2012, 10:07:42 PM
So what the heck happened to the 'box'?  If there really was a box, was it picked up by the garbage truck and taken to the dump without ever being opened?


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on May 24, 2012, 10:19:35 PM
So what the heck happened to the 'box'?  If there really was a box, was it picked up by the garbage truck and taken to the dump without ever being opened?

I don't know, KittyMom.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on May 24, 2012, 10:21:22 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/25/nyregion/in-etan-patz-case-a-vigil-over-many-decades.html
Since 1979, a Vigil for the First Face on Milk Cartons and the Ages He Would Miss
By JAMES BARRON
May 24, 2012



Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 24, 2012, 10:23:01 PM
So what the heck happened to the 'box'?  If there really was a box, was it picked up by the garbage truck and taken to the dump without ever being opened?

That what probably happened if this is true.  When you live in the city the trash is piled up pretty high near businesses when it's trash day.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on May 25, 2012, 02:28:52 AM
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/forever_haunted_shamed_nd26Qi7Xj68O91bxpOJMeJ?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=Local
Forever haunted & shamed
May 25, 2012

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The relief is palpable. But the pain and anger will never die.

Many conspired to cover up the 1979 murder of little Etan Patz — the lost boy who will burn forever in the city’s consciousness as the symbol of our pain, suffering and collective guilt.

Pedro Hernandez, 52, of New Jersey, yesterday confessed that he lured young Etan into the basement of a SoHo bodega back in 1979, 33 years ago to this day.

It was just around the corner, and an eternity, from the spot where Etan lived.

He then strangled the poor child, Hernandez admitted to cops, and tossed his lifeless body into the trash. We may never know why, but we know Hernandez never tried to hide his alleged crime.

His loved ones hid his alleged savagery for him — without giving a thought to the damage it did to our city, our nation. To a generation of children who grew up, went to college and had kids of their own, always thinking in the back of their minds: “This could happen to someone I love.’’

For decades, in fact, Hernandez virtually screamed from the rooftops — “I killed Etan.’’ But no one wanted to hear.

Hernandez confessed to his family that he “did a bad thing’’ and murdered a child more than 30 years ago. They did nothing.

He told his so-called “spiritual adviser’’ that he was a child killer at least as far back as the 1980s.

The silence was deafening.
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The cops never interviewed Hernandez all those years ago, they admitted yesterday shamefacedly.
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Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on May 25, 2012, 02:34:15 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/25/nyregion/arrest-of-etan-patz-suspect-shows-haste-by-the-police.html
Publicity First, Evidence Later in Patz Arrest
By JIM DWYER
May 24, 2012

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The boy disappeared 33 years ago, the suspect had been in custody for barely a day, after decades of false starts, but already the publicity engine was outracing the actual investigation or filing of charges. “People heard the word ‘confession’ and they think that’s it, the case is solved,” a law enforcement official involved in the case said.

Is it?

“If this was a baseball game, we would be in the first inning,” the official, who would not be identified, said. “He is lucid, he’s persuasive. But there is not a lot of corroborating information.”

So far, the office of the Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., has not filed charges, though officials suggested that that would happen on Friday, if Mr. Hernandez’s story held up. Mr. Vance did not appear at the police commissioner’s news conference or with the mayor earlier in the day. The attitude among prosecutors was that while Mr. Hernandez had told a compelling story, there was absolutely no need to rush, and many good reasons to be cautious.
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The law enforcement official involved in the case said that investigators were now trying to find reasons to trust Mr. Hernandez’s story. Why would a man with no known history of pedophilia or murderous impulses lure a boy into a bodega basement and strangle him?

“He doesn’t give any motivation in the statement,” the official said. “The admission was totally unsolicited.”

All through the rainy spring afternoon, investigators were chasing down family members and others who had contact with Mr. Hernandez. They were trying to see if he had a pattern of falsely claiming to have done other terrible things, or if he had a psychiatric history.

Asked a number of times why the confession was trustworthy, Mr. Kelly said “the detectives” had credited it, and cited its length of over three hours. But he said in answer to many questions that the detectives were still investigating.
The news conference had come first, while the investigation into many basic facts would have to catch up.
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“Wasn’t it just last month that we were digging up a basement and were sure that it was another guy?” the law enforcement official said. “There’ll be plenty of time for a victory lap, if it’s warranted.”



Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 25, 2012, 05:56:26 AM
Arrest at last in 1979 Etan Patz murder; suspect to appear in court today

* NJ man had ‘urge to kill’ 6-yr.-old

By JAMIE SCHRAM, DOUG AUER, LARRY CELONA and DAN MANGAN
Last Updated: 5:20 AM, May 25, 2012
Posted: 2:42 AM, May 25, 2012


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New York’s most notorious and chilling mystery has finally been solved.

A former SoHo bodega stock boy has confessed to murdering 6-year-old Etan Patz — and will answer to the crime in court exactly 33 years after the boy disappeared while walking to a school-bus stop.

Pedro Hernandez who was charged with second-degree murder yesterday, told cops he had never seen Etan before that day — but once he spotted him, “I knew he was the one . . . [ I ] just felt the urge to kill,” according to a law-enforcement source.

Hernandez, 51, lured the child “with the promise of a soda, and led him to the basement of the bodega, and strangled him there,” said Police Commissioner Ray Kelly.

Hernandez then placed Etan’s body in a bag, took it about a block and a half away and left it “with the trash,” Kelly said.

Hernandez denied sexually abusing the boy, but investigators are skeptical, sources said.

In his written confession, Hernandez stated, “I’m sorry, I shoke [sic] him,” the sources said.

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Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/arrest_at_last_in_murder_DRJQtD8Q3jXWnWGyEjOfwM#ixzz1vsDoNO7w



Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: KittyMom on May 25, 2012, 11:01:31 AM
I have my doubts about this.  I want some closure for the Patz family, but this just doesn't sound reasonable.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: labubske on May 25, 2012, 11:20:55 AM
I have my doubts about this.  I want some closure for the Patz family, but this just doesn't sound reasonable.

I know...it seems really odd after all of this time this man admits to it.  I would like to know what prompted this...did they go and ask questions and he broke or did he approach LE?  I was also thinking about what would happen if he makes it to trial (if he chooses to plead not guilty) and then back tracks his statement and says that he lied...do they have anything at all on him, other than his confession?  So sad for the family.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: labubske on May 25, 2012, 11:23:10 AM
I have my doubts about this.  I want some closure for the Patz family, but this just doesn't sound reasonable.

I know...it seems really odd after all of this time this man admits to it.  I would like to know what prompted this...did they go and ask questions and he broke or did he approach LE?  I was also thinking about what would happen if he makes it to trial (if he chooses to plead not guilty) and then back tracks his statement and says that he lied...do they have anything at all on him, other than his confession?  So sad for the family.

Also, I wonder if he knew the guy sitting in jail (Ramos)?  He is up to get out of prison, right?  Isn't that why they are working so hard on finding out what happened to Etan? 


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 25, 2012, 11:55:05 AM
Suspect in Etan Patz murder taken to Bellevue Hospital, placed on suicide watch: source
By LAURA ITALIANO
Last Updated: 11:24 AM, May 25, 2012
Posted: 10:22 AM, May 25, 2012


(http://www.nypost.com/r/nypost/2012/05/25/news/web_photos/052412etan14MATT102259--525x350.jpg)

The former bodega where Pedro Hernandez claimed he killed Etan Patz.

The former SoHo bodega stock boy who confessed to murdering 6-year-old Etan Patz was taken to Bellevue Hospital this morning and placed on suicide watch after telling authorities he was off his psychiatric medication, sources told The Post.

"He has been talking about killing himself," a source said.

Pedro Hernandez, who has been charged with second-degree murder, told cops yesterday he had never seen Etan before that day — but once he spotted him, “I knew he was the one . . . [ I ] just felt the urge to kill,” according to a law-enforcement source.

At 5:30 a.m. today, after being in police custody for more than 24 hours, Hernandez was taken to Bellevue Hospital, saying he was depressed and off his medication.

The hospital visit is expected to delay Hernandez's arraignment in Manhattan Criminal Court, which is now scheduled for sometime this afternoon.

Hernandez, 51, lured the child “with the promise of a soda, and led him to the basement of the bodega, and strangled him there,” said Police Commissioner Ray Kelly.

Hernandez then placed Etan’s body in a bag, took it about a block and a half away and left it “with the trash,” Kelly said.

Hernandez denied sexually abusing the boy, but investigators are skeptical, sources said.

In his written confession, Hernandez stated, “I’m sorry, I shoke [sic] him,” the sources said.

Yesterday’s arrest of the married New Jersey dad — who was 18 when Etan was killed — brought a sense of closure to the boy’s long-suffering parents.

Stan and Julie Patz were out of the city, but cops informed them of the dramatic development. “Mr. Patz was taken aback, a little surprised and overwhelmed,” said Lt. Christopher Zimmerman, head of the NYPD’s Missing Persons Squad.

Hernandez’s name was included in a detective’s report when the case broke, but was not questioned until Wednesday.

The cancer-stricken Hernandez, a churchgoing teetotaler, was identified as a suspect in the past month by a member of his family after news broke that investigators were digging up a former handyman’s basement on Prince Street in late April.

Nothing was found there, but the search prompted Hernandez’s brother-in-law, José Lopez, to call the NYPD and tell them that Hernandez had admitted killing an unnamed child shortly after Etan vanished, sources said.

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Read more: http://tinyurl.com/7kskfaz


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: labubske on May 25, 2012, 12:01:14 PM
Thanks San...that article answered a lot of my questions.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on May 25, 2012, 07:06:14 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-05-25/etan-patz/55210168/1
Man charged with 2nd-degree murder in Etan Patz case
By Donna Leinwand Leger, USA TODAY
May 25, 2012

On the 33rd anniversary of 6-year-old Etan Patz disappearance from a New York City neighborhood, prosecutors on Friday charged a former convenience store clerk with 2nd-degree murder.
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Authorities say they have a detailed, signed confession from Hernandez and corroborating accounts from relatives and friends who heard Hernandez admit that he'd "done something bad" to a child in New York City.

On Friday in a video hearing from his bed at Belleview Hospital, Hernandez pleaded not guilty to second-degree murder charges. Hernandez, questioned by prosecutors in New Jersey on Wednesday and arrested Thursday, was at the hospital to undergo a psychological examination and receive medicine for an existing health problem, but doctors admitted him after he said he was contemplating suicide, police said.

Hernandez' court-appointed attorney Harvey Fishbein said Friday he had not met with his client and had no comment about the criminal case against him. Fishbein said he expected Hernandez to be arraigned at the hospital.
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Video:
http://bcove.me/vwnr58m1

Photo Gallery with 13 Images
:
http://mediagallery.usatoday.com/Arrest+in+Etan+Patz+case/G3923,A12558


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 25, 2012, 07:19:34 PM
Etan Patz case: Confessed killer Pedro Hernandez formally charged with second-degree murder, exactly 33 years after boy vanished

Pedro Hernandez faces arraignment on murder charge in death of 6-year-old in 1979

By Rocco Parascandola, Janon Fisher AND Corky Siemaszko / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

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The confessed killer of little Etan Patz was formally charged Friday with strangling the 6-year-old boy and stuffing his body “inside a plastic bag.”

Pedro Hernandez was hit with the second-degree murder charge while he was sitting on a suicide watch at Bellevue Hospital.

Hernandez, who was supposed to be arraigned in Manhattan Criminal Court, wound up facing justice wearing an orange prison jumpsuit in a fifth floor hospital conference room after he “started making statements about wanting to kill himself,” sources said.

Hernandez, who also admitted he’d been on psychiatric meds in the past, was charged exactly 33 years after little Etan disappeared while en route to a school bus stop in SoHo.

A disabled former construction worker who also reportedly suffers from cancer, Hernandez was taken to the hospital initially for medicine for another undisclosed ailment.

It was then that doctors deemed him a danger to himself.

His wife, Rosemary, and college-age daughter, Becky, had been expecting to see him at the courthouse.

When they got word Hernandez wasn’t coming, they left, accompanied by a young man with corn-rowed hair and their court-appointed lawyer, Harvey Fishbein.

Meanwhile in Soho, Etan’s long-suffering parents, Stan and Julie Patz, returned home to their Prince St. apartment from Massachusetts.

They were up in Cambridge watching their daughter receive a master’s degree in education from Harvard on Thursday while police were preparing to charge Hernandez with killing Etan. They also have another son.

Etan was killed about a block away from his home at what was then a bodega at 448 West Broadway. It is now a store that sells high-end eye glasses.

“It was just another store in the neighborhood,” said 71-year-old Jonathan Straus, who stopped by to look at the makeshift memorial of flowers and teddy bears that appeared there overnight.

Other longtime SoHo denizens recalled the bodega owner, whom they remembered as Miguel, held cockfights in the basement where Etan was killed.

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Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/etan-patz-suspect-takes-detour-bellevue-hospital-court-appearance-article-1.1084474#ixzz1vvTsRCJl


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 25, 2012, 07:24:43 PM
Suspect in Etan Patz case arraigned on murder charge

From Susan Candiotti, CNN
updated 7:07 PM EDT, Fri May 25, 2012


New York (CNN) -- Pedro Hernandez was arraigned early Friday evening on a second-degree charge tied to the case of Etan Patz, the New York boy whose disappearance 33 years to the day spurred nationwide attention about missing children.

The suspect appeared about 6:25 p.m. Friday via video feed from Manhattan's Bellevue Hospital Center, where he is being held for evaluation and is on suicide watch, according to a law enforcement source.

Judge Matthew Sciarrino presided over the proceedings from a New York courtroom, where people watched the arraignment.

Sciarrino denied bail for Hernandez after defense attorney Harvey Fishbein said the suspect has a "long psychiatric history" including schizophrenia, bipolar disorder and hallucinations. The lawyer asked that Hernandez undergo a full psychiatric evaluation, a request the judge granted.

Dressed in an orange jumpsuit and sitting at a brown table, Hernandez did not speak and showed no evident emotion during the proceedings.

The next major step in the legal process would be for a grand jury to hear prosecutors' evidence against Hernandez for a potential indictment. It is not clear when this might happen.

The former Manhattan stock clerk who lived in Etan's neighborhood when the boy vanished was arrested Thursday by police following up on a tip.

The next day, he was sent to the hospital "because he's on medications, and we prefer to administer those in a hospital setting," said police spokesman Paul Browne, who declined to elaborate on the medications.

"When Hernandez arrived at the hospital, he began making statements that he wanted to die, and a psychiatric evaluation was ordered, " added the law enforcement source.

Neighbors say suspect in Patz killing lived a quiet life with his family

Hernandez, who was 19 in 1979, told police he lured Etan to a store with the promise of a soda, choked him and placed his body in the trash about a block and a half away, Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said. The boy was killed in the basement of a Manhattan building, according to the charging document filed late Friday afternoon by the Manhattan district attorney's office.

"Detectives believe in the credibility of the statement," Kelly said, although investigators had not uncovered any forensic evidence linking Hernandez to the boy's disappearance.

Kelly said it is unlikely that Etan's remains would be found.

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http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/25/justice/new-york-etan-patz/index.html?hpt=hp_t1


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on May 25, 2012, 08:25:21 PM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304065704577426673396270252.html
Confession Not Enough in Patz Case
By TAMER EL-GHOBASHY, STEVE EDER and SEAN GARDINER
May 25, 2012

Prosecutors brought a formal murder charge against the man who allegedly confessed to murdering 6-year-old Etan Patz in New York City in 1979, but they will face the challenges of trying a decades-old case with little evidence.

Pedro Hernandez appeared at his criminal-court arraignment early Friday evening via a video-link from Bellevue Hospital Center where he had been admitted for a psychiatric evaluation. He sat wearing an orange jumpsuit and didn't address the court as his attorney said the suspect had a long history of mental illness, including schizophrenia and bi-polar disorder.

The attorney, Harvey Fishbein, said Mr. Hernandez also suffers from visual and auditory hallucinations during the brief arraignment in which his client was ordered held without bail by Manhattan Criminal Court Judge Matthew Sciarrino Jr. He wasn't required to enter a plea.
More...



Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: KittyMom on May 25, 2012, 10:16:24 PM
Oh, good grief...this guy is nuts.  No way can they believe his story without proof.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 26, 2012, 12:04:05 AM
Oh, good grief...this guy is nuts.  No way can they believe his story without proof.

I agree that he is nuts.  It makes me wonder what other information they have on him.  What exactly did he tell the police that made them charge him.  I know he gave the confession but it's something he said that made it stick.

Yesterday commissioner Kelly said we have our man.  They weren't saying too much in the press conference.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 26, 2012, 07:21:20 AM
SoHo pals saw the devil in Etan 'killer'

By JEANE MACINTOSH and LORENA MONGELLI
Last Updated: 5:47 AM, May 26, 2012
Posted: 1:02 AM, May 26, 2012


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In the first desperate days after Etan Patz disappeared, scores of neighborhood kids frantically took to their bikes to help search for the missing SoHo 6-year-old.

But one 19-year-old, known for his explosive temper, stood alone in front of the corner store where he worked, silently watching the futile efforts of his friends.

He was the boy’s killer, bodega stock boy Pedro Hernandez.

“Every day, we were all out looking for Etan — everyone except Pedro,” said Roberto Monticello, who was 16 at the time.

“We would meet every morning, our posse with our bikes, at the jewelry store across the street from the deli” where Hernandez worked — which was plastered with photos of Etan.

They were “inside, outside, everywhere you looked,” he said. “Pedro would just stand outside, looking at us, watching. Looking back, it seems strange. Everyone was searching. But he didn’t.”

Monticello, along with several Hernandez relatives, said the suspect always had a dark side and was full of simmering rage.

“He was tightly coiled — you wouldn’t want to get him angry,” Monticello said.

“He was the kind of guy you just knew, even as a kid, that one day he’ll lose it. He’ll just blow up, hit someone, stab them, whatever,” he said.


“But kill a child? I never would have thought that of him.”

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/waiting_for_killer_to_snap_c9eI26iqgDtq7in0NcN3gO#ixzz1vyPjEWSK


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: jamcakes on May 26, 2012, 08:37:35 AM
Suspect in Etan Patz murder taken to Bellevue Hospital, placed on suicide watch: source
By LAURA ITALIANO
Last Updated: 11:24 AM, May 25, 2012
Posted: 10:22 AM, May 25, 2012


(http://www.nypost.com/r/nypost/2012/05/25/news/web_photos/052412etan14MATT102259--525x350.jpg)

The former bodega where Pedro Hernandez claimed he killed Etan Patz.

The former SoHo bodega stock boy who confessed to murdering 6-year-old Etan Patz was taken to Bellevue Hospital this morning and placed on suicide watch after telling authorities he was off his psychiatric medication, sources told The Post.

"He has been talking about killing himself," a source said.

Pedro Hernandez, who has been charged with second-degree murder, told cops yesterday he had never seen Etan before that day — but once he spotted him, “I knew he was the one . . . [ I ] just felt the urge to kill,” according to a law-enforcement source.

At 5:30 a.m. today, after being in police custody for more than 24 hours, Hernandez was taken to Bellevue Hospital, saying he was depressed and off his medication.

The hospital visit is expected to delay Hernandez's arraignment in Manhattan Criminal Court, which is now scheduled for sometime this afternoon.

Hernandez, 51, lured the child “with the promise of a soda, and led him to the basement of the bodega, and strangled him there,” said Police Commissioner Ray Kelly.

Hernandez then placed Etan’s body in a bag, took it about a block and a half away and left it “with the trash,” Kelly said.

Hernandez denied sexually abusing the boy, but investigators are skeptical, sources said.

In his written confession, Hernandez stated, “I’m sorry, I shoke [sic] him,” the sources said.

Yesterday’s arrest of the married New Jersey dad — who was 18 when Etan was killed — brought a sense of closure to the boy’s long-suffering parents.

Stan and Julie Patz were out of the city, but cops informed them of the dramatic development. “Mr. Patz was taken aback, a little surprised and overwhelmed,” said Lt. Christopher Zimmerman, head of the NYPD’s Missing Persons Squad.

Hernandez’s name was included in a detective’s report when the case broke, but was not questioned until Wednesday.

The cancer-stricken Hernandez, a churchgoing teetotaler, was identified as a suspect in the past month by a member of his family after news broke that investigators were digging up a former handyman’s basement on Prince Street in late April.

Nothing was found there, but the search prompted Hernandez’s brother-in-law, José Lopez, to call the NYPD and tell them that Hernandez had admitted killing an unnamed child shortly after Etan vanished, sources said.

 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://tinyurl.com/7kskfaz


If Hernandez told his own family that he had killed a young boy shortly after Etan went missing, why didn't they report it then?  I'm appalled!


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on May 26, 2012, 09:50:17 AM
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/05/26/etan-patz-painfully-obvious-evidence.html
Etan Patz: Painfully Obvious Evidence
My Michael Daly
May 26, 2012







Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 26, 2012, 12:12:23 PM
Hernandez ‘too crazy’ for cops when he confessed years ago

By DOUG AUER and JAMIE SCHRAM
Last Updated: 8:03 AM, May 26, 2012
Posted: 1:41 AM, May 26, 2012


Etan Patz’s alleged killer tried to confess to cops years ago that he had murdered the long-missing 6-year-old — but he was dismissed as a nutjob and detectives never followed through, the suspect’s sister told The Post yesterday.

“Every time the anniversary of that little boy came up on TV, I would say, ‘Why doesn’t he turn himself in?’ ” recalled Lucy Suarez, 43, the youngest sister of Pedro Hernandez.

“And my sister said, ‘He did, but the police let him go because they said he was too crazy,’ ” Suarez said.

Sources yesterday also revealed that five days after Etan disappeared, cops saw Hernandez at the bodega, where one of the owners explained away his presence by noting he was merely his brother-in-law. There is no record that police ever interviewed Hernandez that day about Etan.

Hernandez, 51, confessed to the NYPD Wednesday after a relative ratted him out, police said. He was arraigned on a second-degree murder charge from Bellevue Hospital on the 33rd anniversary of Etan’s disappearance.

“Every time the Patz anniversary came up, and we saw it on TV, we would always get haunted by it,” Suarez said from her home in Camden, NJ.

“I would say, ‘Damn, this thing isn’t dying down. That little boy’s blood is crying out for mercy.’ And we would pray, we would pray for God’s mercy, so God must have heard us.”


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Hernandez, who cops and family members said has HIV, was taken to Bellevue yesterday after threatening to kill himself, sources said. He was arraigned via a video link to a courtroom.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/too_crazy_for_cops_when_he_confessed_WY7fGMsSiaE3UYaCdc0A3J#ixzz1vzbCeyRy


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 26, 2012, 12:17:49 PM
How police blew it in ’79

By JAMIE SCHRAM, PHILIP MESSING and DAREH GREGORIAN
Last Updated: 8:35 AM, May 26, 2012
Posted: 12:47 AM, May 26, 2012


The biggest missing-persons investigations in city history could have led to Etan Patz’s alleged killer decades ago if not for some big mistakes, law-enforcement sources told The Post.

Hundreds of police chasing down thousands of tips and red herrings, detectives looking for personal glory, a lack of a centralized database and the emergence of a perfect suspect led investigators to overlook the man now charged in the murder.

“The bigger the investigation, the more people that are involved, the more difficult the coordination is,” said a retired senior law-enforcement official. “There can be mistakes.”

nd there were doozies in the Patz case. Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said that while Pedro Hernandez’s name was known to investigators soon after Etan’s disappearance, they never interviewed him.

A law-enforcement source noted that with up to 500 officers assigned to the case at one point, the detectives involved might have assumed that somebody else would have spoken to Hernandez.

The flood of tips from the concerned public also pointed away from the blocks where Etan had disappeared — to as far away as Israel — and all the leads had to be chased down.

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Robert Shaw, one of the lead investigators in the original case, declined comment yesterday.

In a 1991 magazine interview, Shaw said the investigation had been hampered by cops who acted like they were competing against each other.

“Everybody wanted to solve the case for the glory,” he told Vanity Fair.


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Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/how_police_blew_it_in_gPklr3vkpzJGCQSqNC9bxM#ixzz1vzcbrpIa



Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Red on May 26, 2012, 02:08:22 PM
Etan Patz Murder Suspect Pedro Hernandez Arraigned on Second Degree Murder Charge … Is He Guilty or Just Another Crazy John Marc Karr Type?

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2012/05/26/etan-patz-murder-suspect-pedro-hernandez-arraigned-on-second-degree-murder-charge-is-he-guilty-or-just-another-crazy-john-marc-carr-type/

KILLER OR KRAZY?

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So the question remains, is Pedro Hernandez really guilty of murdering Etan Patz or is he just a crazy lunatic? Hernandez’ court-appointed lawyer, Harvey Fishbein, stated to the judge during the arraignment that his client is bipolar, schizophrenic and has a “history of hallucinations, both visual and auditory.” So did Pedro Hernandez really commit this crime or is he another John Marc Karr? For those who have forgot, John Marc Karr confessed to killing JonBenet Ramsey. The only thing that might have been more crazy than the media circus surrounding the confessed killer was John Marc Karr himself. In the end prosecutors never charged Karr with the murder because their was not a DNA match.

So does the prosecution have more evidence than is presently known? Has Hernandez confessed to things and provided details of the murder than have never been disclosed and only the killer would know? That remains to be seen. There are many challenges ahead to convict Pedro Hernandez.
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The part that gets me about the confession is that Pedro Hernandez basically said that he killed Etan on the spur of the moment just because he felt like it. Then never again in his life he ever killed again? Hmm. One would think if he actually did the crime there was sadly more to this crime than just a death or the sake of taking a life. That being said, if Hernandez was a child predator, he never again acted out?

Just all so very bizarre.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 26, 2012, 09:18:16 PM
For parents of Etan Patz, 33 years of false hopes

Law enforcement or psychics or strangers mostly, have long been telling Etan’s parents that they have (false) news on Etan.

By Lisa R. Cohen / SPECIAL TO THE NEWS
Published: Saturday, May 26, 2012, 7:33 PM
Updated: Saturday, May 26, 2012, 8:36 PM


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Another false lead: A New York Daily News clipping from Dec. 22, 1982 shows Chester Jones, the cab driver who thought he picked up Etan Patz.

The anniversary of 6-year old Etan Patz’s disappearance from SoHo has fallen on the Friday of Memorial Day weekend before.

On that first Friday May 25, back in 1979, it was a cool, misty day. By early evening, more than 10 hours after Etan was last seen, hundreds of police officers were out in full force when the rain started. By the time bloodhounds were finally brought in Saturday morning, authorities were resigned to the fact the trail had probably gone cold, washed away down the neighborhood’s gutters.

Now, we are being told that if the dogs had followed the trail, it would have led to a bag containing Etan’s broken body, sitting mere blocks from the Patz loft.

In a stunning turn of events, 51-year-old Pedro Hernandez was charged last week with strangling the boy, first luring him into the corner bodega near the bus stop where Etan was headed. Hernandez has told police he went back to find the body a couple of days later, but it was gone.

This is the first time anyone has ever been charged in the 33-year case of what is often called “the most famous missing child since the Lindbergh baby.” That is a huge milestone.

But it isn’t — by far — the first wild upswing in the decades-long case. For 33 years, law enforcement or psychics or strangers mostly, have been telling Etan’s parents, Stan and Julie Patz, that they either knew who had taken their son, or where Etan was, or even that they were Etan.

Etan’s parents never changed their phone number, in hopes he might call. He never did, but plenty of strangers left messages around the clock. They reported seeing Etan in places as far-flung as New England and New Mexico. Sometimes multiple reports from across the country came in on the same day.

Sometimes, in instances of unfathomable cruelty, the voice at the other end of the line would claim to be Etan — usually an adult voice, often drunk. At other times, the voice was clearly mentally unstable, and in the early years, Julie Patz would take it upon herself to track down mental services for a troubled or lonely caller.

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In 1986, acting on a tip, authorities in the Seattle area fingerprinted, footprinted and questioned a boy and then grilled his parents. The boy looked remarkably like Etan and the family had recently moved to the neighborhood from upstate New York. Only seven years into the case, Stan Patz’s response was terse: “We have been through a lot of them like this.”

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/parents-etan-patz-33-years-false-hopes-article-1.1085165#ixzz1w1olydKb


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 27, 2012, 08:01:45 AM
FBI doubts Pedro Hernandez responsible for the killing of Etan Patz
 
Some in district attorney's office pushed for more evidence before arrest, police sources say


By Rocco Parascandola, Kerry Burke AND Larry Mcshane / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Published: Sunday, May 27, 2012, 3:00 AM
Updated: Sunday, May 27, 2012, 3:00 AM

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FBI officials remain unconvinced by the shocking murder confession from a bipolar suspect in the long-unsolved Etan Patz disappearance, sources told the Daily News.

While the detailed admission from Pedro Hernandez seemed to wrap up the 33-year probe, there is great doubt among FBI brass that the former SoHo bodega worker is the boy’s killer, sources said.

“The bosses are very skeptical,” said a police source who is in close contact with the FBI. “They don’t believe him. He’s got mental problems and there’s no other evidence. They think we moved too fast.”

Hernandez’s mental history is not the only reason the feds are leery. FBI investigators who reviewed Hernandez’s confession told The News inconsistencies in his story undermine his credibility.

Law enforcement attention in the case had long focused on convicted child molester Jose Ramos, currently behind bars in Pennsylvania, and more recently on neighborhood handyman Othniel Miller.

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Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/fbi-doubts-pedro-hernandez-responsible-killing-etan-patz-article-1.1085274#ixzz1w4QYQUHv


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 27, 2012, 08:04:46 AM
Etan suspect knew 'intimate details' tying him to slaying: sources

By BRAD HAMILTON
Last Updated: 6:38 AM, May 27, 2012
Posted: 1:57 AM, May 27, 2012


Pedro Hernandez provided detectives with “intimate details” about the murder of Etan Patz that only the killer could have known, sources told The Post.

NYPD detectives believe these key clues, kept secret for 33 years, are proof that the former SoHo bodega stockboy charged in the infamous abduction knew too much to not be involved.

Sources said investigators were stunned to learn that Hernandez had this inside information, which cops never disclosed to the public despite intense public scrutiny and three decades of frustration in trying to unravel what happened to the 6-year-old in 1979.

The specifics have remained secret and are known by fewer than a dozen current law-enforcement officials, including Police Commissioner Ray Kelly and Manhattan District Attorney Cy Vance, the sources said.

They said the closely held details likely relate to Patz’s body — scars, birth marks, moles or other identifying characteristics — items he wore or had when he disappeared or knowledge the killer gleaned about Patz’s family before the killing.

Hernandez, who confessed to strangling the boy in the basement of the bodega where he worked at Prince Street and West Broadway in SoHo, was considered unreliable by some NYPD investigators because of his mental instability.

“They thought there were medical issues and he might be one of those publicity seekers,” one source said.

“But pretty seasoned detectives are confident this is the guy based on information he had. And the circle of people who know is very narrow. They’re not even telling other people in the unit.”

 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/killer_knew_etan_secret_ug3keSiZtxNplgwwWUVDsM#ixzz1w4RXBJX0



Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Northern Rose on May 27, 2012, 10:49:12 AM
Doubts over confession


PEDRO Hernandez, the man the authorities say has confessed to killing Etan Patz 33 years ago - a death that sparked a nationwide change in missing persons investigations - has been prescribed at least one anti-psychotic medication for ''a number of years'' a person with knowledge of his mental history said.

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http://www.watoday.com.au/world/doubts-over-confession-20120527-1zd05.html


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 27, 2012, 11:34:53 AM
’79 NYPD boss doubts just one slaying for Etan suspect

By PHILIP MESSING
Last Updated: 8:02 AM, May 27, 2012
Posted: 12:58 AM, May 27, 2012


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ROBERT J. MCGUIRE Talks of the killer’s urge.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/nypd_boss_doubts_just_one_slaying_w9NEUMKuioB7uATorB3RsK#ixzz1w5IYN9Vd


If Pedro Hernandez really did kill Etan Patz, the accused murderer likely had other victims over the past 33 years, former NYPD Commissioner Robert J. McGuire told The Post.

“If you have that uncontrollable urge towards children, you do that more than once in your life. You are not a happily married guy who is a member of a Pentecostal church,” said McGuire — the top cop when Etan disappeared in 1979.

“I have done a fair amount of investigation of these types of cases, and I don’t remember [any] case of one person who acted out just once. The urge may be unforgivable, but it’s also uncontrollable.”


McGuire is shocked Hernandez has never emerged as a suspect in any subsequent pedophile-related investigations and has trouble believing the alleged killer is a happily married member of a church.

“The confusing thing about pedophilia or child attacks is that you tend not to do that once in your life,” he insisted.

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Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/nypd_boss_doubts_just_one_slaying_w9NEUMKuioB7uATorB3RsK#ixzz1w5IEieNO


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 28, 2012, 08:45:56 AM
'Monster' hid Etan's body in bodega fridge before trash dump: sources

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By LARRY CELONA, JOSH MARGOLIN and BOB FREDERICKS
Last Updated: 5:48 AM, May 28, 2012
Posted: 12:40 AM, May 28, 2012


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He put Etan’s body on ice.

The man who confessed to strangling little Etan Patz was calculating enough to stash the child’s corpse in a basement walk-in refrigerator before tossing it out with the trash, sources told The Post yesterday.

Demented murder suspect Pedro Hernandez, 51, revealed to authorities that after killing the child May 25, 1979, “he put him in the walk-in box and kept him there until he took him out and put him in the garbage,” a law-enforcement source said.

It’s unclear how long Hernandez, then 19, kept the boy’s body hidden in the basement fridge at his family’s SoHo bodega, where he worked as a stock boy, after killing him. Etan’s body had been stuffed in a plastic bag and then put into a box before being stowed in the walk-in, sources said.

But the grisly package remained there until the coast was clear and Hernandez could sneak it out to the street that night. He told cops he wound up carrying the box to an alley down the block and dumping it in other garbage that was later hauled off by a trash truck.

The lurid detail came during Hernandez’s stunning confession to cops last week in which he admitted to luring the towheaded 6-year-old into the bodega with the promise of a cold soda. Etan had been walking to his school bus stop — just across the street from the bodega — by himself for the very first time when he was abducted.

Cops are feverishly poring over old blueprints of the building to see if they include any description of the walk-in.

A longtime resident said the bodega’s owner at the time, identified as Luis, also used the basements of two neighboring businesses for storage and illegal cockfights.

Hernandez could have brought Etan’s body to a refrigerator that was either in a common storage area used by both businesses or in a space directly below the bodega where the owner’s wife cooked.


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/etan_body_hidden_in_fridge_UtKCVlOdG93RlWA9fxMSwI#ixzz1wARgaIvM


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 28, 2012, 08:53:25 AM
If this story is true then more people had to know what happened to Etan.  The owners of that bodega knew and they covered up for him.  He waited until the coast was clear to move a box with a dead boy in it all by himself at night?  I don't think so.  Someone helped this guy.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on May 28, 2012, 08:59:14 AM
If this story is true then more people had to know what happened to Etan.  The owners of that bodega knew and they covered up for him.  He waited until the coast was clear to move a box with a dead boy in it all by himself at night?  I don't think so.  Someone helped this guy.


After reading the article you posted(and the story is true) I agree with you San, "...more people had to know what happened to Etan."


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on May 28, 2012, 10:42:06 AM
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/05/nj_man_charged_with_killing_et.html
N.J. man charged with killing Etan Patz confessed crime to prayer group 30 years ago
May 28, 2012
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EPA/NYPD handoutA flier showing a photo of Etan Patz, who went missing in 1979. Members of a prayer group Pedro Hernandez, the accused killer of Patz, told the NY Times, he admitted during a 1980s prayer group to strangling the youngster.

BLACKWOOD — Pedro Hernandez confessed last week to the 1979 murder of 6-year-old Etan Patz in lower Manhattan. While the admission was the first by Hernandez, 51, confessed to authorities, it may not have been for members of St. Anthony of Padua Roman Catholic Church in Camden, to which he belonged, according to a report by the NY Times.

In the interview with the paper, members of the prayer group Hernandez belonged to at St. Anthony of Padua, told them Hernandez admitted during a group meeting in the 1980s that he had strangled a boy and placed the body in a Dumpster. Last week Hernandez made the same admission to police, telling them he abducted and strangled Patz in the stockroom of a lower Manhattan bodega where he worked, while the youngster walked to his school bus stop. The confession bolstered a 33-year-old case.

Tomas Rivera, 76, of Blackwood, a leader of the prayer group, told the Times he did not feel it was his place to notify the police because the confession was not made to him exclusively.

“He confessed to the group,” Rivera told the paper.
Rivera also told the Times he was questioned by police last week and was instructed “not to say anything” he said.

Hernandez’s alleged confession to the group could prove crucial to the case as there is no DNA, physical or forensic evidence, nor was the body of the 6-year-old ever found.
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Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: KittyMom on May 28, 2012, 11:45:18 AM
Why did no one in the prayer group not contact LE?  How did they live with this knowledge all this time?  I really don't understand people sometimes.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Sister on May 28, 2012, 01:01:57 PM
Why did no one in the prayer group not contact LE?  How did they live with this knowledge all this time?  I really don't understand people sometimes.
Really -- I wouldn't be able to live with myself knowing a family was suffering and some precious child's body was . . .


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: labubske on May 28, 2012, 01:04:12 PM
Why did no one in the prayer group not contact LE?  How did they live with this knowledge all this time?  I really don't understand people sometimes.
Really -- I wouldn't be able to live with myself knowing a family was suffering and some precious child's body was . . .

There should be something done about that...how is that legally okay...the worry of the family...all of the resources used...fear in the community.  If anyone knew and did not report it should be held accountable. 


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: flutter1 on May 29, 2012, 04:20:03 AM
Why did no one in the prayer group not contact LE?  How did they live with this knowledge all this time?  I really don't understand people sometimes.
Really -- I wouldn't be able to live with myself knowing a family was suffering and some precious child's body was . . .

There should be something done about that...how is that legally okay...the worry of the family...all of the resources used...fear in the community.  If anyone knew and did not report it should be held accountable. 

If there isn't a law covering the failure to report a crime, it is at least certainly a moral flaw.   ::monkeydenied::


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 29, 2012, 06:52:06 AM
A haunting ride: Etan’s dad cycles past ‘murder site’

By LARRY CELONA , JOSH SAUL and DAN MANGAN
Last Updated: 6:16 AM, May 29, 2012
Posted: 1:47 AM, May 29, 2012


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SO SAD: Stan Patz yesterday bikes toward the corner store that once was the bodega where 6-year-old Etan allegedly was killed in 1979.

Etan Patz’s father yesterday took a heartbreaking bicycle ride past the site where his 6-year-old son was allegedly murdered, as law-enforcement sources admitted it’s likely cops will never find his child’s body.

A grim-faced Stan Patz got on his bike in front of his SoHo building and pedaled down the street past the eyeglass store that now occupies 448 West Broadway. The shop was formerly the bodega where a one-time stock boy last week admitted to strangling Etan 33 years ago.

The emotional dad couldn’t keep himself from looking at the store before riding by in silence.

It now appears that he and his wife, Julie, will never get the chance to bury the remains of their angelic little boy.

Pedro Hernandez, 51, has told cops he killed Etan in the bodega’s basement May 25, 1979, and tossed his body out with the garbage at nearby 113 Thompson St.

The Sanitation Department is pulling its old records to try to determine whether the trash was removed that night by a city or private hauler and where it might have been dumped — setting the stage for a possible search for Etan’s remains.

But a law-enforcement source yesterday said that authorities “are never going to undertake that kind of searching” if the trash was taken to a landfill, noting, “It would cost millions of dollars.

“You’re talking about hundreds of tons of garbage,” the source said.

Even with a search, “You’d probably still never find that body.”

Martin Bellew, a 23-year Sanitation Department veteran who played a key role in the disposal of the 9/11 debris, said the trash pile with Etan’s body was most likely taken to the massive Fresh Kills landfill on Staten Island — taller than the Statue of Liberty when it closed in 2001.

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Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/haunting_ride_Jnbl1mYLz9A8gc41EwqBgM#ixzz1wFq4XICX


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: KittyMom on May 29, 2012, 10:26:27 AM
My heart breaks for the Patz family.  After all this time, to face a potential certainty that they may never a proper burial for their little boy. 


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on May 29, 2012, 07:08:57 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/05/29/justice/new-york-pedro-hernandez-profile/
Who is Pedro Hernandez, accused in Etan Patz case?
By Susan Candiotti and David Ariosto, CNN
May 29, 2012

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An "Inside Edition" photo of Pedro Hernandez, who authorities say has confessed to strangling Etan Patz in 1979.




Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 29, 2012, 07:20:28 PM
Patz 'killer' returned to work at bodega years after '79 slaying: sister

By JULIA MARSH in Camden, NJ and DAN MANGAN in NY
Last Updated: 6:19 PM, May 29, 2012
Posted: 12:07 PM, May 29, 2012


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He went back to the scene of the crime.

The sister of admitted Etan Patz killer Pedro Hernandez today revealed that her brother returned to work at a Manhattan bodega several years after allegedly strangling the innocent 6-year-old in the basement of the same store in 1979.

Hernarndez, who last week confessed to killing Etan when he was an 18-year-old stockboy at the SoHo bodega, had first quit working there and moved to New Jersey shortly after Etan vanished on March 25, 1979.

After getting married to his first wife, Daisy, in south Jersey and staying married for several years while living there, the couple divorced.

Hernandez then moved back to New York City and resumed work at the bodega on the corner of West Broadway and Prince Street while living with his sister Luz, said another sister, Norma Hernandez, to reporters today at her Camden, NJ, home.

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Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/sister_confession_patz_suspect_says_D4Jd0CoOc8uYnruM73nC1I#ixzz1wIsX5ooz


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on May 30, 2012, 07:58:29 PM
New photo of Etan Patz's alleged killer released

By David K. Li
Last Updated: 7:41 PM, May 30, 2012
Posted: 7:39 PM, May 30, 2012


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Pedro Hernandez mug shot

This could the face of Etan Patz’s killer.

Here is the booking mug shot of Pedro Hernandez, the 51-year-old New Jersey man who allegedly confessed last week to killing the SoHo tyke decades ago.

 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/pedro_hernandez_alleged_killer_dw2JFkIrbUWzIW7ehOayjL#ixzz1wOsrGcHU


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on June 01, 2012, 02:16:24 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/02/nyregion/psychiatrists-puzzled-by-hernandezs-confession-in-etan-patz-case.html?google_editors_picks=true
Psychiatrists Puzzled by Confession in Patz Case
By BENEDICT CAREY
June 1, 2012

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Pedro Hernandez in an undated photo, left, and as photographed by the police in May.

His confession came more than three decades after the fact. He had no apparent motive or criminal record. And his mental struggles — he had a diagnosis of schizophrenia and bipolar disorder — were reportedly being treated.
Details about the life of Pedro Hernandez, who confessed last week to the 1979 murder of Etan Patz, a 6-year-old who disappeared while walking to a bus stop in SoHo, are still far too scarce to make any authoritative judgments, psychiatrists say.

But if Mr. Hernandez’s trajectory from obscure family man to prime suspect appears highly unusual, so, too, is the 33-year-old case, and perhaps also its solution. Some experts offered possible explanations for how he could have strangled the boy and lived with the secret all these years, while others wondered if he confessed to a crime he did not commit, a common phenomenon in notorious crimes.

All agreed that there were huge gaps in Mr. Hernandez’s life story. Did he have a history of erratic or violent behavior? When was he found to have a mental disorder? When did he begin treatment? If he killed Etan, could he have killed other people and never gotten caught?
More...


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on June 03, 2012, 04:47:13 PM
http://www.silive.com/opinion/editorials/index.ssf/2012/06/search_for_etan_patz_where.html
Search where for Etan Patz?
June 3, 2012



Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on June 03, 2012, 04:48:40 PM
http://www.northjersey.com/news/Etan_Patz_case_raises_complex_question_of_duty.html
Etan Patz case raises complex question of duty
May 3, 2012

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Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on June 06, 2012, 09:27:09 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/wife-confessed-etan-patz-killer-attorney-husband-suffers-delusions-article-1.1089948
Wife of confessed Etan Patz killer says through attorney that husband suffers from delusions  
Rosemary Hernandez breaks silence, wants DA to understand severity of Pedro Hernandez's mental illness
June 4, 2012

The wife of the man police say confessed to killing 6-year-old Etan Patz in 1979 has broken her silence to say her husband has “suffered from delusions” for years.

Speaking out for the first time through her newly hired attorney, Rosemary Hernandez said her husband, Pedro, has long been mentally troubled.

The attorney, Robert Gottlieb, told the Daily News on Monday that Rosemary Hernandez “asked me to assist her in making sure that the district attorney understands the severity of her husband’s mental illness.”

“He has suffered from delusions and other mental illnesses for many years,” Gottlieb said.

Hernandez hired Gottlieb last week after she says she was repeatedly pursued by NYPD detectives trying to get her to corroborate her husband’s claims.
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The day police took Hernandez into custody at his home outside Camden, N.J., Rosemary and the couple’s daughter, Becky, were driven to New York by city detectives.

Since then, the police have scrambled to corroborate Pedro Hernandez’s claims. Gottlieb says detectives repeatedly tried to question Rosemary Hernandez.

“Rosemary feels that the police have harassed her, even though she cooperated fully with them when her husband was arrested,” Gottlieb said.

A key issue is Pedro Hernandez’s mental state. His attorney has said he has been diagnosed as both schizophrenic and bipolar and has taken medication for both conditions.

Manhattan District Attorney Cy Vance Jr. has yet to bring the case to a grand jury, and sources say the FBI has expressed reservations about the integrity of the confession.

Police have said that Hernandez told relatives years ago he had killed an unnamed boy in New York City, and some of the relatives have backed up that assertion.
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Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on June 06, 2012, 09:29:51 AM
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/06/etan_patz_case_camden_police_h.html
Etan Patz case: Camden police say there's no record of report from Pedro Hernandez's sister
June 6, 2012

Camden police Tuesday said they have no records to corroborate a woman’s claim that she told them her brother had killed a child in New York.

Pedro Hernandez, 51, of Maple Shade was arrested last month after confessing to police that he strangled Etan Patz in a bodega near the Patz home in May 1979 and then dumped the 6-year-old’s body in an alley beside the Manhattan shop. Hernandez, who was a stock clerk at the bodega at the time, has been charged with second-degree murder.

His sister, Camden resident Norma Hernandez, has said she told police more than 25 years ago that her brother had slain a child.

Norma Hernandez, 54, said she did not recall the year she reached out to police, but she believed it was shortly after investigators began focusing on a suspect in the Patz case. That man, convicted child molester Jose Ramos, was named in numerous published reports in 1985.

"We have yet to find any reports that Ms. Hernandez claims she made," Camden Police Chief Scott Thomson told The Star-Ledger.

"I’ve also spoken to a retired Camden police captain who was a detective during the time frame in question," Thomson said. "He distinctly remembers the Patz case and the visceral emotions it invoked of every cop to find Etan or catch the suspected abductor. He also found it hard to believe that any cop at that time would have been dismissive of such an egregious claim."

The news comes as the Manhattan district attorney deliberates whether to bring the case before a grand jury.
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Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: cw618 on June 06, 2012, 11:07:51 PM
wondering if something was dound,that can be brought to the GJ

Etan Patz Disappearance: Police Search NJ Home of Suspect, Pedro Hernandez
By RICHARD ESPOSITO and DAVID F. MEYERS (@davidfmeyers) | ABC News – 5 hrs ago Edit to add date.  MB  June 6, 2012
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In a quest for evidence to bolster Hernandez's confession for the New York City 6-year-old's 1979 murder, at least a dozen detectives and investigators from New York City and New Jersey, two marked Maple Shade police cars, three New York unmarked vehicles, and a crime scene van arrived at the home this afternoon.
 
Two uniformed local officers entered the apartment with guns drawn after two women with keys opened the door for them, including Hernandez's wife, Rosemary Hernandez. They swept the apartment and then a New York team approached the door, explained the warrant to the two women and began the search.
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A photographer entered the house along with the investigators, who arrived at the scene at about 4 p.m.
 
"It is part of the continuing investigation," said NYPD Deputy Commissioner for Public Information Paul Browne.
 
Browne would not comment further on the investigation, nor the scope of the warrant.
 
Asked multiple times by ABC News what the reason was for the search, officers at scene declined any comment.
 http://news.yahoo.com/etan-patz-disappearance-police-search-nj-home-suspect-211636251--abc-news-topstories.html


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on June 08, 2012, 06:15:05 AM
Bombshell evidence in Etan slay
Kid clothes, toy at ‘killer’ home


By JAMIE SCHRAM Police Bureau Chief
Last Updated: 4:25 AM, June 8, 2012
Posted: 12:32 AM, June 8, 2012


Nypd detectives found an old toy and worn clothing that are “age appropriate” for Etan Patz hidden in the New Jersey home of the boy’s confessed killer, law-enforcement sources told The Post yesterday.

Investigators planned to test the items for DNA — and hope they will serve as key evidence in the murder case against 51-year-old former SoHo bodega stockboy Pedro Hernandez, the sources said.

Cops were stunned by the discovery Wednesday as they executed a search warrant at Hernandez’s home in Maple Shade, near Camden.

“When they were found, the air was sucked right out of the room, [it was] a very emotional moment,” a source said.

The clothes and unidentified toy appear to be from the late 1970s. The clothes were worn and “not clean,” the source said. “Imagine what your drawers would look like 33 years later.”

The sources wouldn’t describe the clothing, but the blond, blue-eyed boy was wearing blue pants, a blue jacket and a black Eastern Air Lines pilot’s cap when he disappeared on May 25, 1979.

It was unclear whether cops have shown the new evidence to Etan’s parents, Stanley and Julia Patz, to see whether the couple could identify the items.

The sources noted that Hernandez also has a son, and that the items would be tested to see if they belonged to him.

“They have to send it to a lab or analyze it,” a second source said.

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Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/bombshell_evidence_in_etan_slay_fP80xTLJI5KnhZDRbhTSOO#ixzz1xC9wcRsU


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on June 08, 2012, 08:47:26 PM
Police don’t believe children’s clothes found at Pedro Hernandez home belonged to slain Etan Patz

Hernandez claimed to have killed boy in 1979, but there's still no physical evidence

By Rocco Parascandola, Janon Fisher AND Corky Siemaszko / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Friday, June 8, 2012, 2:00 PM


A child-sized pair of shorts and a Matchbox car were found at the home of the mentally-ill New Jersey man who claims he strangled little Etan Patz, but police don’t think they belonged to the 6-year-old Manhattan boy who vanished three decades ago.

“We found nothing that we believe belongs to the boy,” one source told the Daily News on Friday, noting that Etan wasn’t wearing shorts when he vanished 33 years ago — he was wearing blue pants.

Out of an abundance of cautions, investigators intend to do a DNA test on the shorts to rule out the possibility they belonged to Etan, sources said.

They also removed a computer hard drive and some papers from the residence, but saw no sign of Etan’s beloved black Eastern Airlines cap, which he was also wearing when he disappeared 33-years-ago, sources said.

Suspect Pedro Hernandez and his wife Rosemary got the shorts and toy from neighbors in Maple Shade, N.J., and were intending to sell them at yard sales, sources said.

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Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/kiddie-clothes-found-confessed-etan-patz-killer-house-sources-belong-lost-boy-police-children-clothes-found-predro-hernandez-home-belonged-slain-etan-patz-article-1.1092172#ixzz1xFhyfcIZ


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: San on June 09, 2012, 06:11:13 AM
Chilling Etan-slay clues are revealed; cops waited two weeks before asking to search 'killer' home

By NATASHA VELEZ and JAMIE SCHRAM
Last Updated: 5:39 AM, June 9, 2012
Posted: 12:47 AM, June 9, 2012


A search of the home of Etan Patz’s accused killer turned up a pair of boys’ white Fruit of the Loom briefs, a yellow Matchbox-style car etched with the word “Stryker” and a pair of blue children’s-size shorts, sources said yesterday.

The items were found secreted in an attic room of the Maple Shade, NJ, house of Pedro Hernandez, who used the space as his bedroom, sources said.

Hernandez, 51, confessed May 24 to killing Etan, who went missing on his way to a SoHo bus stop in 1979.

Meanwhile yesterday, records showed the NYPD waited two weeks to even ask permission to search Hernandez’s home, first applying for a warrant June 6.

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Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/chilling_etan_slay_clues_are_revealed_VwZjOB1qikFtLu8QK2yPZI#ixzz1xHzMVPnR


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on June 11, 2012, 11:42:00 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/11/nyregion/for-patz-suspect-a-tumultuous-past.html?google_editors_picks=true
For Patz Suspect, a Life Filled With Tumult and Family Mistrust
June 11, 2012



Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on August 08, 2012, 05:46:01 PM
http://www.chron.com/news/article/Police-seek-more-evidence-in-NYC-Etan-Patz-case-3773025.php
Etan Patz case: NYPD searches new part of Soho building where suspected killer Pedro Hernandez once worked
Police gain access to part of building that they had not searched before

August 8, 2012

The NYPD returned Wednesday to the Soho building where the suspected killer of Etan Patz once worked — and searched a part of the building that they had never accessed before, police sources said.

Investigators were later seen leaving the building at West Broadway and Prince St. with at least one paper bag filled with possible evidence.

The building now houses an eyeglass shop, but it used to be the bodega where Pedro Hernandez worked at the time of Patz’s disappearance in 1979.
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A police source said Wednesday’s basement search is not tied to any new developments. But the source added that police were given access to a portion of the buillding that they had not searched before.

Detectives were also seen yesterday at the nearby home of Hernandez’s sister.

Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly would not comment on a report that Hernandez’s first wife told police that in the mid-1980s she found a picture of Patz from a police flier hidden in Hernandez’s belongings.

The picture was not found when police searched Hernandez's New Jersey home after his arrest.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on August 08, 2012, 05:48:46 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/investigators-seek-more-evidence-in-nyc-etan-patz-case-return-to-site-of-former-grocery-store/2012/08/08/1e97b7c8-e19b-11e1-89f7-76e23a982d06_story.html
Investigators seek more evidence in NYC Etan Patz case, return to site of former grocery store
August 8, 2012

NEW YORK — New York City police returned on Wednesday to the site of a former grocery store to look for evidence in the 1979 disappearance of a 6-year-old boy.

New York Police Department spokesman Paul Browne confirmed investigators searched the retail space in Manhattan’s SoHo neighborhood, where the alleged abductor of Etan Patz once worked.
Browne characterized the search as routine, but wouldn’t discuss what was being sought or if it was found. The effort, he said, “wasn’t based on any new information.”

Pedro Hernandez has been charged in the slaying of Patz, one of the first missing children whose picture ever appeared on a milk carton. He remains held without bail in a psychiatric hospital jail ward.
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Hernandez’s sister has said she heard secondhand that he told a church prayer group in the 1980s that he killed a child in New York City. But Hernandez, now 51, wasn’t eyed as a suspect in Etan’s disappearance until last month, when a tipster contacted police.

Police say Hernandez, of Maple Shade, N.J., told investigators he lured the boy into the shop with the promise of a soda. He allegedly said he led the child to the basement, choked him and left his body in a bag of trash about a block away.

The court case has been put on hold while as doctors evaluate Hernandez’s mental fitness for trial and investigators seek more evidence beyond his alleged confession.
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Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on August 08, 2012, 06:53:35 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/etan-patz-investigation-returns-soho-basement/story?id=16962119
Etan Patz Investigation Returns to SoHo Basement
August 8, 2012

Investigators returned to the lower Manhattan basement today where first-grader Etan Patz was allegedly murdered in 1979, the latest attempt to find clues in a case that has gripped and haunted New York City for 33 years.

Police removed several large bags of material from the site where Patz's accused killer told investigators earlier this year that he killed the boy.
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Today's search was carried out because police gained access to part of the site previously inaccessible to them.
"We always intended to go back to the location," said Deputy Commissioner for Public Information Paul Browne, "We did so at a time that was more convenient to the owner."

Browne said there were "no new developments" nor was there any new information that brought police back to the location.

Sources said investigators were looking for physical evidence that Patz had been there, including clothing, blood and DNA that may have survived more than three decades.
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Hernandez had admitted to family members and friends as early as 1981 that he "done a bad thing and killed a child in New York." Someone went to police in April after police searched the basement, but found nothing linking Patz to that room.

Currently, the case against Hernandez hangs on his confession. Sources said police hoped to find evidence that corroborates Hernandez's story.

Video at Link


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on August 08, 2012, 06:57:00 PM
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/patz_killer_kept_photo_says_boy_ohZ2fBkyunLYNKTeVuaLMO?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=Manhattan
Patz's killer kept photo of boy for years, ex-wife says
August 8, 2012

The man who confessed to killing Etan Patz kept a photo of the boy among his personal possessions for years after the murder, his ex-wife told investigators.

Pedro Hernandez' ex-wife Daisy Rivera said she found the picture, which appeared to be cut from one of the missing persons posters that blanketed the city in 1979, in a “box of his personal papers” that he kept in their New Jersey home, a law enforcement source told The Post.

“She brought up that once she was going through a box of his with personal papers and inside that box was the picture of Patz,” the source said. “She said it looked like it came from a missing poster that was put up in the neighborhood.

When confronted with the photo, an angry Hernandez freaked out, Rivera told cops.

“She asked ‘What is this?’ He said ‘What are you doing? Put that away! Don’t go through my stuff!” the source said.

Cops got a search warrant for the Maple Shade, New Jersey house where Hernandez was living with his second wife and daughter - but came up empty.

“One of the things they were looking for when they got a search warrant for the house was this picture or this box but they didn’t find it so they’ll have to use her testimony” if there’s a trial, the source said.
More...



Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on August 10, 2012, 01:37:34 PM
http://online.wsj.com/article/AP4a6d500178884893b98f1d58fe444675.html
NY detectives searching evidence in Etan Patz case
August 10, 2012

NEW YORK — Detectives have returned to the site of a former grocery store while investigating the 1979 disappearance of Etan Patz (AY'-tahn PAYTS').

The 6-year-old boy was one of the first missing children ever featured on a milk carton.

The search resumed Friday in Manhattan's SoHo neighborhood, where the alleged abductor once worked.

Police also searched the site Wednesday. They're not saying what they've found, if anything.

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Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: KittyMom on August 10, 2012, 03:02:51 PM
What a prolonged nightmare for the Patz family.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on August 19, 2012, 08:59:26 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/10/etan-patz-search-nypd-find-only-garbage-unsealing-coal-room_n_1763811.html?utm_hp_ref=new-york
Etan Patz Search: NYPD Finds Only Garbage After Unsealing Coal Room In Soho
August 10, 2012

MANHATTAN — The NYPD returned to the former SoHo bodega where Etan Patz was allegedly murdered to break into an old storage room where coal that fueled the building’s furnace used to be kept, DNAinfo.com New York has learned.

All they found was garbage.

The coal room is in the basement of 448 West Broadway, which used to house the bodega where Etan's confessed killer Pedro Hernandez once worked.

When detectives first swarmed the building after Hernandez's arrest in May, they found the room inaccessible, save for small apertures where coal could be dumped in from a chute above and shovelled out through an opening at the bottom.

Detectives could peer into it, but could not get in.

When cops returned to the building Wednesday, they were with Emergency Service Unit officers equipped with saws and other tools to cut through the wall. Because the room housed coal for so long, cops first did an air quality check to
ensure no noxious fumes would be released, sources said.

Once inside the coal room, though, they found nothing related to the boy's disappearance.

Evidence teams collected all the trash they found, sources said, but they do not believe it will yield any clues to what happened to Etan.
More...

Slide show at link.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Northern Rose on October 29, 2012, 12:14:36 PM
 
Former top suspect in Etan Patz case to be freed

Man previously believed to have been responsible for Jewish boy's disappearance in 1979 to be freed from prison after 25 years
Associated Press Published:  10.29.12,
 
While prosecutors weigh what to do about a suspect who surprisingly surfaced this spring in the landmark 1979 disappearance case of Etan Patz, the man who was the prime suspect for years is about to go free after more than two decades in prison for molesting other children.
 
These two threads in the tangled story are set to cross next month, a twist that evokes decades of uncertainties and loose ends in the search for what happened to the sandy-haired 6-year-old last seen walking to his Manhattan school bus stop.

The new suspect, Pedro Hernandez, has been charged with Etan's murder after police said he emerged as a suspect and confessed this spring. But there's no public indication that authorities have found anything beyond his admission to implicate him, and his lawyer has said Hernandez is mentally ill.
 
The Pennsylvania inmate, Jose Ramos, was declared responsible for Etan's death in a civil court, but the Manhattan district attorney's office has said there wasn't enough evidence to charge him criminally. After serving 25 years on child molestation convictions in Pennsylvania, he's set to be freed Nov. 7, about a week before prosecutors are due to indicate whether they believe there's evidence enough to keep going after Hernandez.

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 http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4298573,00.html


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on November 06, 2012, 02:01:00 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/06/longtime-suspect-in-etan-patz-case-to-be-released/
Longtime suspect in Etan Patz case to be released
November 6, 2012

PHILADELPHIA –  The man who was long the prime suspect in a landmark case of a missing New York City boy is about to be released from a Pennsylvania prison where he spent 20 years for molesting other children
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Jose Ramos, was declared responsible for Etan's death in a civil court in 2004, but the Manhattan district attorney's office has said there wasn't enough evidence to charge him criminally. He has denied any involvement in Etan's disappearance.

Ramos has been incarcerated at a prison at Dallas in northeastern Pennsylvania on unrelated child molestation convictions. Prison spokesman Michael Goyne said Tuesday that Ramos is set to be freed Wednesday.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: sharon on November 07, 2012, 12:48:36 PM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/11/06/3084522/longtime-suspect-in-etan-patz.html#storylink=misearch


Posted on Tuesday, 11.06.12

Longtime Etan Patz suspect released, then held


By JOANN LOVIGLIO
Associated Press

PHILADELPHIA -- A man long considered the prime suspect in the disappearance of a New York City boy more than three decades ago was released from a Pennsylvania prison on Wednesday, then immediately arrested on a Megan's Law violation after providing an outdated address of where he would be residing, state police said.

Jose Antonio Ramos was immediately taken into custody following his release from a northeastern Pennsylvania prison where he spent more than 20 years for molesting children because he failed to provide accurate information as required of sex offenders, according to state police.

Pennsylvania State Police Lt. Richard Krawetz said Ramos gave an address of a relative from more than 30 years ago and, while the address existed, the relative hasn't lived at that location for years, Krawetz said.

"When he walked out of the main gate, he was taken into custody by troopers," he said.

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Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: flutter1 on November 07, 2012, 02:01:55 PM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/11/06/3084522/longtime-suspect-in-etan-patz.html#storylink=misearch


Posted on Tuesday, 11.06.12

Longtime Etan Patz suspect released, then held


By JOANN LOVIGLIO
Associated Press

PHILADELPHIA -- A man long considered the prime suspect in the disappearance of a New York City boy more than three decades ago was released from a Pennsylvania prison on Wednesday, then immediately arrested on a Megan's Law violation after providing an outdated address of where he would be residing, state police said.

Jose Antonio Ramos was immediately taken into custody following his release from a northeastern Pennsylvania prison where he spent more than 20 years for molesting children because he failed to provide accurate information as required of sex offenders, according to state police.

Pennsylvania State Police Lt. Richard Krawetz said Ramos gave an address of a relative from more than 30 years ago and, while the address existed, the relative hasn't lived at that location for years, Krawetz said.

"When he walked out of the main gate, he was taken into custody by troopers," he said.

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So no one from Pardons and Parole had verified that he was indeed to be living at this relative's house?  My daughter was only in for a year and they called me before they would ever grant her probation.   ::CowboySmiley::


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Nut44x4 on November 14, 2012, 08:11:58 AM
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/13/15144861-grand-jury-considers-charges-in-etan-patz-disappearance?lite

Grand jury considers charges in Etan Patz disappearance
11-14-12

NEW YORK -- A Manhattan grand jury is hearing evidence against Pedro Hernandez in the 1979 disappearance of Etan Patz, NBC 4 New York has learned.


Follow @NBCNewsUS

A decision is expected by Thursday whether Hernandez will be indicted on kidnapping and murder charges.
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Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Northern Rose on November 14, 2012, 01:21:30 PM
Defense lawyer says suspect indicted in 1979 kidnapping, death of 6-year-old NYC boy Etan Patz
November 14, 2012 - 1:05 pm EST

NEW YORK — The suspect in the infamous 1979 disappearance of a 6-year-old boy from his New York City neighborhood has been indicted on charges of murder and kidnapping, his lawyer said Wednesday.

Pedro Hernandez, 51, of Maple Shade, N.J., was indicted by a New York City grand jury in the death of Etan Patz, attorney Harvey Fishbein said. Hernandez was arrested earlier this year, and investigators say he confessed.

The district attorney's office would not comment.

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http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/a7a38c6992a24676a4838fba2aec99d0/US-Missing-NYC-Boy
 


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on November 15, 2012, 09:57:01 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/accused-etan-patz-killer-plead-guilty-lawyer-article-1.1202525?localLinksEnabled=false&google_editors_picks=true
Pedro Hernandez, charged with 1979 kidnapping and killing of Etan Patz, recants confession
Hernandez is a schizophrenic prone to hallucinations, but Manhattan District Attorney's office says evidence former stockboy is guilty ''is credible'
November 15, 2012

The former SoHo bodega worker who cops say confessed last year to kidnapping and killing little Etan Patz back in 1979 has recanted his confession.
 
Pedro Hernandez will plead not guilty to murdering the 6-year-old Manhattan boy — who became an international symbol of missing children — at his next court appearance, his lawyer Harvey Fishbein said Thursday.
 
Hernandez, 51, made "a false confession" to police, Fishbein said. "The statements made by my client are not reliable," he added.


Furthermore, the prosecution's case rests solely on the admission of a schizophrenic prone to hallucinations, Fishbein said.
 
"The really sad part of this case is that it will take time, it will take money ... and it will not tell the city what happened to Etan Patz," he said.

Prosecutors said they believe Hernandez's confession is solid.
 
"We believe the evidence that Mr. Hernandez killed Etan Patz to be credible and persuasive, and that his statements are not the product of any mental illness," said Erin Duggan, spokeswoman for Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr.
 
Hernandez, who now lives in South Jersey, did not say a thing at a brief hearing Thursday.
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Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on November 15, 2012, 09:59:40 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ex-patz-suspect-convicted-pedophile-planned-runaway-florida-article-1.1202693
Jose Ramos, long prime suspect in Etan Patz disappearance, plotted whirlwind trip to New York, Florida and Brazil after release: Prosecutor
Letters show Janet Hicks, Ramos' pen pal, used made-up 'grandson' to lure him

November 15, 2012

Convicted pedophile Jose Ramos — long the prime suspect in the disappearance in Etan Patz — plotted to run away to Florida with a female pen pal after he was sprung from a Pennsylvania prison, the Daily News has learned. But first, the unlikely couple planned a pit stop in Manhattan, just a few miles from where the boy disappeared in 1979.

In letters intercepted by state police, the duo discussed holing up in the Mayflower Hotel in the Upper West Side, or Carlton Arms Hotel in Kips Bay, following Ramos' expected release from prison last week after serving a 27-year sentence for molesting two boys.

Ramos and Janet Hicks of Reno, Nev. then were going to make way down to Florida in a school bus, then perhaps Brazil, according to the letters, said Luzerne County district attorney Alexis Falvello.

Hicks pitched bringing along her grandson, Falvello said.

But there was a big problem: "There was no grandson," Falvello said. "She was using that to bait him" into a relationship.

Investigators intercepted letters between Hicks and Ramos beginning early last month, after they grew suspicious the 69-year-old pervert had no intention of living in a Bronx apartment he listed as his expected residence upon release. Turns out, the apartment belonged to a cousin who hasn't lived there in 30 years and wanted nothing to do with the pedophile.

Instead of being released from the clink, Ramos was promptly re-arrested on the felony Megan’s Law violation, and now faces an additional 10 years behind bars.
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Ramos was long considered a prime suspect in the 1979 disappearance of Etan, whose parents still live at the same Prince Street address in SoHo. On Wednesday, Pedro Hernandez was indicted on the murder and kidnapping of the 6-year-old boy. But the Manhattan DA's case against Hernandez -- who has a long history of mental illness -- has been criticized because it hinges largely on videotaped confessions.

“Nothing has changed my mind that Jose Ramos is responsible for the abduction and murder of Etan Patz,” said Brian O’Dwyer, who represented the Patz family in a 2004 civil case.

“None of the evidence I have seen so far changes my belief that the New York Supreme Court got it right in the case against Ramos."


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on December 13, 2012, 01:33:47 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57558913/etan-patz-suspect-he-was-alive-when-i-left-him/
Etan Patz suspect: He was alive when I left him
December 13, 2012

NEW YORK Pedro Hernandez told New York City Detectives that, when he left Etan Patz's body in a doorway, he believed the little boy was still alive.

The 1979 disappearance of the six year old became the most symbolic kidnapping case since the murder of the Lindberg baby, stirring the movement that put missing children on milk cartons and billboards.

The stunning revelation and other new details come in documents filed with the court just after Hernandez entered a not guilty plea to the very crimes he confessed to last May in a marathon session with police. In that session, he detailed the killing of the boy, during questioning and again on video.
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The new details of Hernandez's statements to police and prosecutors give some indications of questions that may be raised at trial. Questions such as, when police searched the basements in the blocks around the boy's home, why was the book bag behind the freezer not discovered? Why did no witness remember seeing a man carrying a box big enough to contain the body of a 50 pound boy? And why, in the massive dragnet on the streets of the Manhattan neighborhood of SoHo that began the night of Patz's disappearance was the box with his body not found?
For each question, there are possible explanations. Police might not have looked behind the freezer. A stock boy carrying a large box might not have struck passersby as unusual. The private carting company that served the streets where Hernandez says he left the box may have picked it up before the boy was reported missing.

In a motion to dismiss the indictment against Hernandez, his lawyer, Harvey Fishbein, argues that Hernandez's confession alone is unreliable because of his long psychiatric history. The document also states, "In the six months since Hernandez's arrest, the NYPD (New York Police Department) and the New York County District Attorney's Office have conducted an intensive investigation attempting to corroborate Mr. Hernandez's statements. However, I am told by the District Attorney's Office they have found nothing."
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Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on May 15, 2013, 05:19:48 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/15/etan-patz/2163213/
Judge: Man accused of killing Etan Patz can face trial
May 15, 2013

NEW YORK (AP) — A man charged with murder decades after one of the nation's most infamous child disappearances can be brought to trial, a judge ruled Wednesday, turning down the man's claim that the case was too thin to proceed.

In a case that hinges on a disputed confession, the judge said there was enough evidence to sustain the charges against Pedro Hernandez of Maple Shade, N.J. He is accused of killing 6-year-old Etan Patz, last seen walking to his Manhattan school bus stop in 1979.

The ruling propels the case toward a trial that would likely revolve around whether Hernandez' confession amounts to a mentally ill man's imaginings, as his defense claims.
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Hernandez, 52, was arrested last May after police got a tip that he'd told people years before that he had killed a child in New York City.

Hernandez then told authorities he'd seen Etan at the bus stop, offered the boy a soda to entice him to a corner store where Hernandez worked and choked the boy in the basement. Hernandez said he tossed Etan's book bag behind a basement freezer, put his limp body in a box and left it with some trash about a block away.

Hernandez is due back in court July 31.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on September 15, 2014, 04:07:52 PM
When read in full, this article covers a lot.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/16/nyregion/in-taped-confession-in-etan-patz-case-something-just-took-over-me.html?google_editors_picks=true
In Taped Confession in Etan Patz Case: ‘Something Just Took Over Me’
September 15, 2014

The confession came in a soft, unwavering tone. He recalled when he first spotted the boy, standing on the sidewalk outside a bodega where he worked at West Broadway and Prince Street in SoHo.

The man told investigators that he enticed the boy with an offer of a soda, and then opened up a gate in the sidewalk and led the boy, Etan Patz, down into a cellar.

“When he went in front of me I grabbed him by the neck and I started to choke him,” the man, Pedro Hernandez, told the investigators. “I wanted to let go but I just couldn’t.”

It was 2 a.m. on May 24, 2012, nearly 33 years to the day that Etan, who was 6 at the time, vanished on his way to school. His disappearance and presumed murder haunted New York City for decades, and forever changed perceptions across the country about how closely children should be watched.
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The hearing before Justice Maxwell Wiley is being held to determine if Mr. Hernandez’s confessions should be thrown out before the case goes to trial. The matter is crucial to the prosecution, since there is no known physical evidence linking Mr. Hernandez to the crime.

Mr. Hernandez’s lawyer, Harvey Fishbein, told the court his client, who has a low I.Q. and a history of mental illness, gave a false confession to investigators in New York.

He said Mr. Hernandez was so suggestible because of his intellectual disability and mental problems that he became convinced — especially following an initial interrogation in Camden, N.J., that lasted nearly eight hours — that he had killed Etan.

“There is no question that when the detectives were finished with my client in the morning of May 23, my client believed what he was saying to the police was true,” Mr. Fishbein said. “The issue is, was it reliable?”

Justice Wiley must decide if Mr. Hernandez understood his right to remain silent and was intelligent enough to waive it. He must also rule on whether the confessions — Mr. Hernandez made at least three videotaped statements — were voluntary or coerced by the police.

Mr. Hernandez’s lawyer has argued his client’s statements to the police were false.

But the office of Cyrus R. Vance Jr., the Manhattan district attorney, has concluded the confessions are credible and not the results of delusions or police coercion.
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Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on September 15, 2014, 04:14:50 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/15/us-usa-crime-patz-idUSKBN0HA20C20140915
New York court watches taped confession by accused killer of Etan Patz
September 15, 2014



Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on September 20, 2014, 10:15:51 AM
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/09/19/video-shows-detectives-comforted-suspect-while-confessing-to-1979-case-of-missing-etan-patz/
Video Shows Detectives Comforted Suspect While Confessing To 1979 Case Of Missing Etan Patz
September 19, 2014

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork/AP) – The man suspected of killing a 6-year-old boy in one of New York City’s most notorious missing children’s cases burst into tears during a videotaped confession as detectives hugged and comforted him.
The video played Thursday in Manhattan state Supreme Court was the first taped confession by Pedro Hernandez. He was arrested in May 2012 for the killing of Etan Patz who disappeared May 25, 1979. But it’s the second tape viewed by Judge Maxwell Wiley, who must decide whether the confessions will be used as evidence in Hernandez’ upcoming murder trial, not whether the admissions are true.
More...


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: cw618 on January 06, 2015, 01:25:46 AM
long article with past and current details

http://nydn.us/1BuSyhE

Mystery lingers as Pedro Hernandez — who confessed to the 1979 slaying of Etan Patz, 6, but later recanted — heads to trial
BY SHAYNA JACOBS , DAREH GREGORIAN  NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Saturday, January 3, 2015, 11:56 PM
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It sounds like a simple case.

Pedro Hernandez confessed in excruciating detail about attacking a golden-haired 6-year-old boy, telling detectives matter-of-factly that he’d lured him into a bodega basement, “grabbed him by the neck and started to choke him.”

“It was like something took over me and, I don’t know, something just took over me and I choked him,” Hernandez, 53, said in the chilling admission.

“It was just something that happened.”
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Hernandez’s lawyer says his client is mentally ill, and with an IQ under 70, was easily coerced into making the confession during hours-long interviews with cops and prosecutors.

Hernandez has since recanted, saying he didn’t kill the boy. His attorney, Harvey Fishbein, also noted there’s no known physical evidence linking Hernandez to the crime. Etan’s body has never been found.

“Mr. Hernandez appears to be the only witness against himself, and he is an unreliable witness,” Fishbein told the Daily News.
more
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/suspect-1975-etan-patz-case-murder-article-1.2065087


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on February 02, 2015, 09:51:03 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/03/nyregion/etan-patzs-mother-speaks-in-court-of-the-day-her-son-disappeared.html
Etan Patz’s Mother Speaks in Court of the Day He Disappeared
February 2, 2015

The Case of Etan Patz
The disappearance of Etan Patz, a 6-year-old boy, gripped New York City in 1979 and the years that followed. Below is a timeline of events in the case. JAN. 29, 2015 (link to timeline: )
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/01/30/nyregion/etan-patz-timeline.html


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on March 09, 2015, 11:00:07 AM
BBM  ?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/daughter-testifies-murder-trial-1979-missing-boy-case-29500181
Daughter Testifies at Murder Trial in 1979 Missing Boy Case
March 9, 2015

The 25-year-old daughter of a man on trial for murder in the 1979 disappearance of Etan Patz (AY'-tahn payts) is testifying on his behalf.

Becky Hernandez says the stress of her father's arrest prevented her from getting a master's degree.

Monday is the first time the woman has spoken publicly about the charges against her father.

She testified her father was very strict. She wasn't allowed out with friends, and he held her hand crossing the street until she was 14.

Pedro Hernandez confessed in 2012 to choking 6-year-old Etan in the basement of a convenience store where he worked.
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Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 20, 2015, 03:49:50 AM
http://bangordailynews.com/2015/03/19/news/nation/man-accused-of-etan-patzs-1979-murder-may-have-given-false-confession/?ref=polbeat

NEW YORK — An expert on false confessions testified Thursday that a former grocery store worker accused of killing a missing New York City boy in 1979 could be at risk of falsely admitting to a crime due to mental illness and low intellectual abilities.
 
Pedro Hernandez, 54, on trial for the kidnapping and murder of 6-year-old Etan Patz, confessed to police in 2012 that he choked the boy, stuffed him in a garbage bag and box and left him in a New York alley.
 
Defense attorneys say Hernandez concocted a false confession under police coercion and that he suffers from mental illness and hallucinations. He could face life in prison if convicted.
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Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Red on April 17, 2015, 01:26:48 PM
Jury weighs fate of accused killer of Etan Patz, original 'milk carton' missing child

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/17/us/etan-patz-court-verdict-pedro-hernandez/

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On Friday, more than 35 years after frenzied media coverage of his case horrified parents everywhere, a New York jury will again deliberate over a possible verdict against the man charged in his killing, Pedro Hernandez. He confessed to police three years ago.

Etan Patz's parents have waited that long for justice, but some have questioned whether that is at all possible in Hernandez's case. His lawyer has said that he is mentally challenged, severely mentally ill and unable to discern whether he committed the crime or not.

But Hernandez has been repeatedly diagnosed with schizophrenia and has an "IQ in the borderline-to-mild mental retardation range," his attorney Harvey Fishbein has said.

Police interrogated Hernandez for 7½ hours before he confessed.

"I think anyone who sees these confessions will understand that when the police were finished, Mr. Hernandez believed he had killed Etan Patz. But that doesn't mean he actually did, and that's the whole point of this case," Fishbein has said.
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Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Red on April 17, 2015, 01:28:21 PM
Jury in Case of Missing Boy Etan Patz Asks to View Evidence

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/jury-case-missing-boy-etan-patz-asks-view-30392729

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Jurors deliberating in the New York City murder trial of a man accused of kidnapping and killing 6-year-old Etan Patz (AY'-tahn payts) in 1979 have asked to review a confession and other evidence.

Pedro Hernandez says he choked Etan in a convenience store basement after luring him there with the promise of a soda. He was a teenage stock clerk when the boy disappeared May 25, 1979.

On Friday, jurors asked to see a missing-person's poster shown to Hernandez at the police station before he confessed. They have also requested the videotaped confession and some witness statements.
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Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on May 05, 2015, 12:37:48 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/05/05/new-york-jury-unable-to-reach-verdict-in-etan-patz-murder-case/
New York jury unable to reach verdict in Etan Patz murder case
May 5, 2015

DEVELOPING: The New York jury in the Etan Patz murder trial said Tuesday that it is unable to reach a verdict on the 15th day of deliberations, Reuters reported.

The judge told jury members to try one more time to reach a verdict, the report said. Pedro Hernandez, 54, who is on trial, made a confession in 2012. His lawyers say it's false, and they've pointed to another suspect who wasn't charged. But prosecutors say the admissions are sound.

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In the 10 weeks of testimony, jurors heard from prayer group members who said he confessed to killing a boy in New York. Hernandez's former neighbor and ex-wife also said he confessed.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: cw618 on May 08, 2015, 03:12:16 PM
Mistrial Is Declared in Etan Patz Case
By JAMES C. McKINLEY Jr.MAY 8, 2015
A judge declared a mistrial in the Etan Patz murder trial on Friday after jurors said for a third time that they could not reach a verdict despite three weeks of deliberation, leaving unresolved a missing child case that has vexed the city for decades.
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The jury of seven men and five women said they were firmly deadlocked in deciding the fate of Pedro Hernandez, 54, a disabled factory worker from New Jersey. The trial turned on a confession Mr. Hernandez gave 33 years after Etan Patz, who was 6, vanished while walking to a school bus stop in SoHo, an admission that the prosecution argued proved his guilt and that the defense called a fiction invented under police pressure.

more
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/09/nyregion/etan-patz-jury-murder-trial.html?module=Notification&version=BreakingNews&region=FixedTop&action=Click&contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=34100393&pgtype=article


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Red on May 09, 2015, 10:33:09 AM
Judge Maxwell Wiley Declared a Mistrial in the Etan Patz Missing Child/Murder Case … Single Holdout Said He Could Not Vote to Convict Pedro Hernandez

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2015/05/09/judge-maxwell-wiley-declared-a-mistrial-in-the-etan-patz-missing-childmurder-case-single-holdout-said-he-could-not-vote-to-convict-pedro-hernandez/

Some of these jurors need to understand that "reasonable doubt" does not mean any doubt.

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On Friday, the Judge Maxwell Wiley declared a mistrial in the Etan Patz missing child/murder trial as the jury after deliberating for three weeks could not reach a unanimous verdict. In the end, a lobe juror was the hold out as the jury was deadlocked, 11-1. The lone holdout juror, Adam C. Sirois, said to reporters following the trial, “Ultimately I couldn’t find enough evidence that was not circumstantial to convict.  I couldn’t get there.” The lone juror, Juror #11, could not find it in himself to convict the kidnapping and murder suspect, Pedro Hernandez, who confessed to the murder? Etan Patz was the 6 year old boy who vanished while walking to a school bus stop in SoHo, NYC in 1979. His body has never been found.
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Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: klaasend on May 18, 2015, 04:04:51 PM
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Etan-Patz-Missing-Boy-Soho-1979-Mistrial-Pedro-Hernandez-Jurors-Re-try-Case-Cy-Vance-Manhattan-304158191.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_NYBrand (http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Etan-Patz-Missing-Boy-Soho-1979-Mistrial-Pedro-Hernandez-Jurors-Re-try-Case-Cy-Vance-Manhattan-304158191.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_NYBrand)

May 18, 2015

Manhattan District Attorney Says He Intends to Re-try Etan Patz Murder Case
Eleven of the 12 jurors believed Hernandez was guilty; one held out against a conviction

Manhattan's top prosecutor said Monday he plans to re-try the Etan Patz murder case, which ended in mistrial earlier this month after the 12-person jury told a judge for the third time they could not reach a unanimous decision on whether 54-year-old Pedro Hernandez killed the 6-year-old boy in 1979.

Manhattan District Attorney Cy Vance made the comments on MSNBC's "The Cycle." He said he intended to officially announce plans to re-try the case at a court date in June.

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Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: MuffyBee on June 10, 2015, 05:47:42 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/10/us-usa-crime-patz-idUSKBN0OQ2QH20150610
New trial for man who said he killed New York boy to open in 2016
June 10, 2015

A new trial for the former New York deli worker who confessed to strangling 6-year-old Etan Patz in a case that changed the way the U.S. responds to missing children will open in 2016, a judge said on Wednesday.

A month after declaring a mistrial because of a hung jury, Judge Maxwell Wiley told Pedro Hernandez that a new jury would be picked as early as December to hear the kidnapping and murder case in state Supreme Court in Manhattan.

Seven jurors from Hernandez' first murder trial, in which a single holdout declined to convict him in the 1979 killing, returned to court to hear the judge's decision. The group on Wednesday included Adam Sirois, the holdout.

"I wanted to see what happened today," Sirois told reporters outside the courtroom, saying it will be difficult for Hernandez to get a fair trial in New York.
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"We are very frustrated and disheartened still," said fellow former juror Jennifer O'Connor, who was among the 11 jurors who voted to convict Hernandez. "We're here supporting the new DA and his team."

Opening statements from the defense, which maintains Hernandez is mentally ill and his 2012 confession to police was coerced, and the prosecution, which maintains he is a cunning criminal and his statements were voluntary, will begin in 2016, the judge said.

Hernandez, 54, confessed to strangling the boy in the basement of the deli where he worked in New York's Soho neighborhood. He said he put the boy's still-moving body in a box and left it in a nearby alley.

Despite a massive search, Patz was never found. He was declared legally dead in 2001.

His father Stan Patz has said the family was "frustrated and very disappointed" by the jury's inability to reach a verdict.

Hernandez was questioned in 2012 after investigators received a tip from his brother-in-law, who said Hernandez allegedly confessed the crime to a church prayer group in the 1980s.

The lead prosecutor for the next trial will be assistant district attorney Joel Seidemann, who replaces Joan Illuzzi-Orbon as she steps down to run as a Republican for Staten Island district attorney.


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 25, 2016, 03:06:32 PM
http://www.people.com/article/date-set-for-pedro-hernandez-retrial

Date Set For Retrial of Man Accused of Killing New York City Boy Etan Patz in 1979

05/24/2016 AT 01:55 PM EDT
The retrial of Pedro Hernandez for the alleged 1979 murder of 6-year-old Etan Patz in New York City is scheduled to commence this fall, PEOPLE confirms.

During a hearing held Tuesday morning in State Supreme Court in Manhattan, Justice Maxwell Wiley said Sept. 6 would be the likely start date for the trial, though he said the date would be finalized during the next court date in the widely publicized case, which is scheduled for July 11.
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Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 20, 2016, 11:42:29 AM
Retrial for 1979 disappearance of Etan Patz begins.
http://www.thespec.com/news-story/6919255-he-was-the-first-missing-child-on-a-milk-carton-now-a-murder-retrial-begins/
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Suspect Pedro Hernandez sat impassively as his retrial opened in a case that eluded investigators for decades, ratcheted up Americans' consciousness of missing children and now centres on whether a chilling confession was true. A jury deadlocked last year.

With Etan's father and Hernandez's wife and daughter looking on, the trial began as an echo of the haunting story that unfolded over four months last year — so haunting that many of the jurors and alternates from the last trial were in the audience Wednesday to watch.

Prosecutors say Hernandez, 55, hid a brutal secret for more than 30 years. His lawyers say he's mentally ill and falsely confessed to waylaying and killing Etan as he walked to his school bus stop on May 25, 1979.

Etan's 6-year-old face became one of the first missing-children's portraits that Americans saw on milk cartons, and the anniversary of his disappearance became National Missing Children's Day. His parents helped push for a law that modernized how law enforcement handles missing-child cases.

But his body has never been found.

Hernandez's lawyers say a decadeslong search has led to the wrong man.

"As human beings, all of us ... have sympathy for the Patz family. That is not the issue here," defence lawyer Harvey Fishbein said during jury selection. He's due to give his opening statement later Wednesday.  ::snipping3:: ::snipping3::


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 14, 2017, 03:15:34 PM
February 14, 2017

Statement from John F. Clark on the verdict in the Etan Patz trial / GUILTY
http://www.missingkids.org/vnr

“The abduction of 6-year-old Etan Patz nearly 40 years ago as he walked to his school bus awakened the nation to child abduction and helped change the way law enforcement investigates these crimes,” said John F. Clark, CEO and president of The National Center for Missing & Exploited Children. “NCMEC is here today – and America’s children are safer – because of Etan and other children whose abductions and killings launched a national movement. We applaud the Manhattan district attorney and law enforcement who never stopped fighting for justice for Etan. Our hearts go out to Etan’s parents, Stanley and Julie, who finally have the answers they’ve sought for 38 years.”
(http://www.missingkids.org/en_US/desktop/EtanPatz_Statement.jpg)


Title: Re: Etan Patz - 1st Missing Child on a Milk Carton Case Re-Opened 31 Years Later
Post by: Nut44x4 on February 15, 2017, 12:23:15 AM
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(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/02/15/nyregion/15PATZconvict1/00PATZconvict1-master768.jpg)
Pedro Hernandez, shown in court in 2012, confessed to luring the 6-year-old Etan Patz into the basement of a bodega and attacking him in 1979
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/nyregion/etan-patz-pedro-hernandez-guilty.html?_r=2

Pedro Hernandez Found Guilty of Kidnapping and Killing Etan Patz in 1979
2-14-17
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Mr. Hernandez, 56, is scheduled to be sentenced on Feb. 28. He faces up to 25 years to life in prison on both the kidnapping and murder charges, prosecutors said.