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Title: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 26, 2009, 02:34:24 PM
Good Mornin' Klaas & Blink ::MonkeyRoll::
I was wondering...
Do you think it might be a good idea to start a thread/vine focusing in on the Oregon/Calif Lawless Family connection?

Grants Pass
That weird compound
Donald Lawless...
All come to mind.
  LM

Ya know, I do- What a Good Idea, that way we can keep the logistics seperate, the connection thread has so much data on it. I feel like a dum dum, but then again, I dont think we had a clue how convoluded this would get.
Thanks Lone
B
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks Blink! ::MonkeyWink::
Well if you plug in Lawless in Grants Pass...
You get them ALL!!!!
We need to zero in on who is connected and who is not.

Could Donald L. Lawless of 501 Lawless Lane really be RONALD Lawless????


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 26, 2009, 02:41:05 PM
Donald Thomas Lawless

Age
53
Grants Pass, OR
Agness, OR
      intelius.com    
Barbara Mae Lawless
Lewis Edwin Lawless
Jessica Louise Lawless
Joseph Lewis Lawless
Marlene L Lawless
Joe Lawless



Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 26, 2009, 02:45:28 PM
Donald Lawless
(work)
Job title: Treasurer
Company: Lawless Roofing
501 Lawless Ln
Grants Pass, OR 97526-7101

Type: Land Line
Provider: Qwest Corporation
Location: Grants Pass, OR






Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 26, 2009, 02:49:43 PM
    Lloyd Lewis Lawless

Age   42
Grants Pass, OR
Newberg, OR
Rogue River, OR
Glendale, OR
Eureka, CA

intelius.com    
Julia Lynn Lawless
Janice Evelyn Lawless
Michael Lawless
Lynne Lawless
Teresa Lawless
Jeffery R Lawless
Jeffrey R Lawless


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 26, 2009, 03:09:21 PM
Uniform Commercial Code (UCC)

Search Results Include Filings Through 05/21/2009 12:00 AM
            
Organization
Individual:
Lawless
      
Lapse Status:

Name     Address     Lien Number     Lien type     Filed    Termination date     Lapse date
LAWLESS, BARBARA M.
[Individual]    PO BOX 1328
GRANTS PASS, OR 97526    631042    UCC    08-15-2003    ------------    08-15-2013

LAWLESS, DONALD T.
[Individual]    PO BOX 1778
GRANTS PASS, OR 97528-0320    631042    UCC    08-15-2003    ------------    08-15-2013

LAWLESS, MARLENE
[Individual]    PO BOX 1328
GRANTS PASS, OR 97526    631042    UCC    08-15-2003    ------------    08-15-2013

LAWLESS, LEWIS E.
[Individual]    PO BOX 1328
GRANTS PASS, OR 97526    631042    UCC    08-15-2003    ------------    08-15-2013

LAWLESS, MARLENE
[Individual]    PO BOX 1328
GRANTS PASS, OR 97526    6530988    UCC    04-08-2004    ------------    04-08-2014

LAWLESS, DONALD T
[Individual]    PO BOX 1778
GRANTS PASS, OR 97528-0320    6530988    UCC    04-08-2004    ------------    04-08-2014

LAWLESS, LEWIS E
[Individual]    PO BOX 1328
GRANTS PASS, OR 97526    6530988    UCC    04-08-2004    ------------    04-08-2014

LAWLESS, BARBARA M
[Individual]    PO BOX 1328
GRANTS PASS, OR 97526    6530988    UCC    04-08-2004    ------------    04-08-2014

LAWLESS, JOSEPH L
[Individual]    27727 GUERBER LN
CORVALLIS, OR 97333-9217    6552621    UCC    04-28-2004    03-09-2005    04-28-2009

LAWLESS, DONALD T
[Individual]    PO BOX 1778
GRANTS PASS, OR 97528-0216    6552621    UCC    04-28-2004    03-09-2005    04-28-2009

LAWLESS, LEWIS E
[Individual]    PO BOX 1778
GRANTS PASS, OR 97528-0216    6552621    UCC    04-28-2004    03-09-2005    04-28-2009

LAWLESS, DONALD T.
[Individual]    PO BOX 1778
GRANTS PASS, OR 97528    6552748    UCC    04-28-2004    03-09-2005    04-28-2009

LAWLESS, LEWIS E.
[Individual]    PO BOX 1778
GRANTS PASS, OR 97528    6552748    UCC    04-28-2004    03-09-2005    04-28-2009

LAWLESS, CRAIG A.
[Individual]    4080 JUMPOFF JOE CR. RD.
GRANTS PASS, OR 97526    6602890    UCC    06-16-2004    02-07-2007    06-16-2009

LAWLESS, TIMM
[Individual]    205 CHESTNUT DR
GRANTS PASS, OR 97526    7595143    UCC    04-23-2007    ------------    04-23-2012

LAWLESS, TIMMAS
[Individual]    205 CHESTNUT DR
GRANTS PASS, OR 97526    7595143    UCC    04-23-2007    ------------    04-23-2012

LAWLESS, DONALD T.
[Individual]    PO BOX 1778
GRANTS PASS, OR 97528    7610080    UCC    05-07-2007    ------------    05-07-2012

LAWLESS, LEWIS E.
[Individual]    PO BOX 1328
GRANTS PASS, OR 97526    7610080    UCC    05-07-2007    ------------    05-07-2012


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 26, 2009, 03:17:32 PM
Snipped:
http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090520/A_NEWS/905200330 (http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090520/A_NEWS/905200330)

To avoid the news media covering Melissa Huckaby's arrest, Judy Lawless took Madison and, until April 20, was staying with a relative in Oregon, according to court documents.

Johnny Huckaby wrote in court papers that he traveled to Oregon with the court order to retrieve his daughter, but Judy Lawless had already taken her back to Southern California. He accuses her of lying to him about Madison's whereabouts.

Johnny Huckaby also claims that, in recent years, his ex-wife denied his attempts to contact their daughter, threatening to hide out in Oregon and tell Madison he was not her father.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 26, 2009, 03:29:29 PM
Snipped:
http://tracypress.com/printer_friendly/2594324 (http://tracypress.com/printer_friendly/2594324)

Huckaby swallowed razor blades in suicide try, ex-husband says
by Jennifer Wadsworth
05.20.09 - 07:23 pm

....She said that after the media frenzy that followed her daughter Melissa Huckaby’s arrest on charges that she raped and killed 8-year-old Sandra Cantu, Lawless took Madison to a relative’s house in Grants Pass, Ore., to protect her from the chaos in Tracy.

Johnny Huckaby called Lawless on her cell phone to find out where she had taken his daughter. He asked if Madison had seen horses that day, and Lawless said that she had, “indicating that Madison and she were still in Oregon,” Johnny Huckaby said in court filings. Sources have said the Lawless family has a ranch in Oregon.

He didn’t tell Lawless at the time that a judge had already signed papers granting him legal custody of his daughter. But when he flew to Oregon and showed up at the aunt’s house on April 19, Lawless and Madison had already flown back to Cypress.

“What the hell are you doing?” he said he asked Lawless once he got her on the phone again.....

“I can’t believe that you are doing this to your daughter,” she responded, according to Johnny Huckaby.

He said he accused Lawless of lying to him about Madison’s whereabouts and that she replied, “I didn’t want anyone to know where she was.”


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 26, 2009, 04:03:19 PM
501 Lawless Lane
GrantsPass Oregon
Map Images
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/v39hlenx20647sy48441z17sGalile.jpg)


(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/v39hlenx20646sy48442z17sGali.jpg)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: MunkeyMunk on May 26, 2009, 04:30:08 PM
WOW!!! Been gone since Friday, out of town....  We live 1/2 hr. from Grants Pass...better go check out this farm.... ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 26, 2009, 11:29:27 PM
Snipped:
http://www.veromi.net/Summary.asp (http://www.veromi.net/Summary.asp)

LAWLESS,�LEWIS�EDWIN (Age 77)

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

�LAWLESS ROOFING INC
�LAWLESS ROOFING, INC
�SADDLE MOUNTAIN CATTLE COMPANY
�WEST WOOD, LTD
   Available(6)    Available    GRANTS PASS,�OR
DALLAS,�OR
AGNESS,�OR
KLAMATH FALLS,�OR
BROOKINGS,�OR    Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS,�BARBARA�MAE�(Age�73)
LAWLESS,�MARLENE�L�(Age�52)
LAWLESS,�DONALD�THOMAS�(Age�54)
LAWLESS,�JESSICA�LOUISE�(Age�32)
LAWLESS,�JOSEPH�LEWIS�(Age�30)
LAWLESS,�DON�T
LAWLESS,�JOE�L�(Age�30)
LAWLESS,�IS�E
LAWLESS,�JESSICA�L�(Age�32)�

Snipped:
http://www.privateeye.com/Search/SearchResults.aspx?auth=&vw=people&input=name&fn=L&mn=&ln=Lawless&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=&age=&city=Grants+Pass&state=OR&db=www.privateeye.com (http://www.privateeye.com/Search/SearchResults.aspx?auth=&vw=people&input=name&fn=L&mn=&ln=Lawless&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=&age=&city=Grants+Pass&state=OR&db=www.privateeye.com)

LAWLESS, LLOYD THOMAS
Phone Number AvailablePhone Number AvailableDate of Birth Available
GET INFO   

Bay Point, CA
Seal Beach, CA
Grants Pass, OR
Rogue River, OR
Bothell, WA
Kirkland, WA
Redmond, WA
   
Possible Relatives:
LAWLESS, JANICE EVELYN
LAWLESS, LYNN MARIE
LAWLESS, TERESA EILEEN
LAWLESS, JEFFERY ROGER
LAWLESS, WALTER SCOTT
SIMONSON, NATASHA CAREN
LAWLESS, SCOTT

LAWLESS, LEONARD DWAYNE
Phone Number AvailablePhone Number AvailableDate of Birth Available
GET INFO   

Canyon Country, CA
Goleta, CA
Newhall, CA
Santa Clarita, CA
Saugus, CA
Colorado Spgs, CO
Colorado Springs, CO
Aurora, NE
Lincoln, NE
Grants Pass, OR
   
Possible Relatives:
VALERIUS, CYNTHIA ANN
LAWLESS, MARK STEVEN
LAWLESS, JACK STANFORD
LAWLESS, JACK
LAWLESS, JOHN
LAWLESS, CYNTHIA A

LAWLESS, LYNN MARIE
Phone Number AvailablePhone Number AvailableDate of Birth Available
GET INFO   

Costa Mesa, CA
Huntington Beach, CA
Santa Ana, CA

Grants Pass, OR
Bothell, WA
Everett, WA
Kirkland, WA
   
Possible Relatives:
LAWLESS, LLOYD THOMAS
LAWLESS, JANICE EVELYN
LAWLESS, WALTER SCOTT
SIMONSON, NATASHA CAREN
SHERMAN, WAYNE GARY
LAWLESS, SCOTT
SHERMAN, GRANT






Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 27, 2009, 12:42:04 PM
Now Clifford Lane Lawless was a pastor in redding at the beacon church at one time. 

he is also listed as the President on a Lawless roof biz

there is also a Lawless Roofing in redding under another Lawless that I have not been able to connect Clifford lane Lawless line to...yet. 

So here we have LAWLESS ROOFING in California and Oregon...

Donald Lawless
(work)
Job title: Treasurer
Company: Lawless Roofing
501 Lawless Ln
Grants Pass, OR 97526-7101


Type: Land Line
Provider: Qwest Corporation
Location: Grants Pass, OR


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 27, 2009, 12:49:55 PM
BEFORE THE OFFICE OF ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS
STATE OF OREGON
for the
WATER RESOURCES DEPARTMENT


In the Matter of the Determination of the Relative Rights of the Waters of the Klamath River,
a Tributary of the Pacific Ocean

United States of America; Klamath Irrigation District; Klamath Drainage District; Tulelake Irrigation District; Klamath Basin Improvement District; Ady District Improvement Company; Enterprise Irrigation District; Malin Irrigation District; Midland District Improvement Co.; Pine Grove Irrigation District; Pioneer District Improvement Company; Poe Valley Improvement District; Shasta View Irrigation District; Sunnyside Irrigation District; Don Johnston & Son; Bradley S. Luscombe; Randy Walthall; Inter-County Title Company; Winema Hunting Lodge, Inc.; Van Brimmer Ditch Company; Plevna District Improvement Company; Collins Products, LLC;
Contestants

vs.

Donald Lawless; Marlene Lawless; Lewis Lawless;
Claimants/Contestants.


DRAFT CAPTION
Case No. 212
Claim: 97
Contests: 38, 28401, 34782, 3747, and 41323
1 WaterWatch


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 27, 2009, 01:06:32 PM
Snipped:
http://www.veromi.net/Summary.asp (http://www.veromi.net/Summary.asp)    

 LAWLESS,�DONALD�T�in�GRANTS PASS,�OR

1�Match�Found�(100 max.)
�    Name/AKAs    Phone    Address    City, State    Possible Relatives    �
1.    LAWLESS,�DONALD�THOMAS (Age 54)

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

LAWLESS ROOFING, INC
SADDLE MOUNTAIN CATTLE COMPANY
   Available(3)    Available    MONMOUTH,�OR
KLAMATH FALLS,�OR
GRANTS PASS,�OR
DALLAS,�OR
CHEMULT,�OR
AGNESS,�OR    

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS,�LEWIS�EDWIN�(Age�77)
LAWLESS,�MARLENE�L�(Age�52)
LAWLESS,�BARBARA�MAE�(Age�73)
LAWLESS,�JESSICA�LOUISE�(Age�32)
LAWLESS,�JOSEPH�LEWIS�(Age�30)
LAWLESS,�JOE�L�(Age�30)
LAWLESS,�LENE
LAWLESS,�IS�E
LAWLESS,�JOSEPH�L

Possible Roommates / Associates:

LAWLESS,�DON�T
BACON,�CHERYL
   View Details

*Notice HOW many family members have initial L as a middle name???
Just like:
Clifford L Lawless
Connie L Lawless

   


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 27, 2009, 01:27:56 PM
Judy Lawless has had MH's daughter In Grants Pass Oregon...
A search on JL in Grants Pass:
1.    LAWLESS,�JUDY�C (Age 47)
   �    Available    SPOKANE VALLEY,�WA
PORTLAND,�OR    Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS,�NATHAN�M�(Age�48)�


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 27, 2009, 01:45:14 PM
In fact this is MH's Dad
Snipped:
http://www.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1& (http://www.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&)

     Brian L Lawless

View Details
   48
Cypress, CA
La Habra, CA

Possible Relatives:                         intelius.com
Adam B Lawless
Clifford L Lawless
Connie Lawless
Melissa C Lawless
Judy A Lawless

Caleb J Lawless
Julianne Lawless


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 27, 2009, 01:57:07 PM
Hmmmmm....
What do you suppose Brian L Lawless' middle name is???
So, it's:
Connie Lane Lawless
Clifford Lane Lawless
                                 
Brian L(?) Lawless


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 27, 2009, 02:08:26 PM
...If we plug in CLANE Lawless in Tracy we seemingly get the Pastor with a DIFFERENT middle name.... P
And as we see in the other threads, this family seems very devious with the name change tricks!!!!!

    Lane P Lawless

View Details
   77    Tracy, CA    intelius.com    intelius.com    intelius.com    intelius.com    intelius.com    Lane C Lawless
Pstr Lane Lawless
Clifford Lane Lawless
Clane Lawless
Connie Lane Lawless
Joni I Lawless


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 27, 2009, 02:53:55 PM
Snipped:
http://preview.ussearch.com/preview/ala/newsearch?adID=10002101&searchtab=people&searchFName=&searchMName=&searchLName=Lawless&searchCity=Grants+Pass&searchState=OR&searchApproxAge=&x=46&y=42 (http://preview.ussearch.com/preview/ala/newsearch?adID=10002101&searchtab=people&searchFName=&searchMName=&searchLName=Lawless&searchCity=Grants+Pass&searchState=OR&searchApproxAge=&x=46&y=42)
 
Blanca L Lawless
   91
   Address Available    Phone Available
Rosamond , CA
Grants Pass , OR
Acton , CA
Santa Clarita , CA
Canyon Country , CA

Possible Relatives:
Cynthia Ann Lawless
Hernan Lawless
Jack Stanford Lawless
Jack Stanfo Lawless


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 27, 2009, 02:59:21 PM
Jan E Lawless
   64
   Address Available    Phone Available    
Redmond , WA
Vancouver , WA
Ocean Park , WA
Grants Pass , OR
Mesa , AZ
Everett , WA
Yakima , WA
Woodinville , WA
Bothell , WA
Bay Point , CA
Seal Beach , CA


Jan E Lawless
Janice Lawless
Janice E Lawless
Janice Evelyn Lawless
Jan Entriken
Janice E Entriken
Janice E Entroken
Jan Halgren
Jan E Halgren
Janice Halgren
Janice E Halgren
Janice Evelyn Halgren
Janice Laless

*same source as above post


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 27, 2009, 03:01:05 PM
      Tami M Lawless
      Address Available    Phone Available    Grants Pass , OR
Possible Relatives:
Cindy Lawless
Cindylou S Lawless
Edwin M Lawless
Timmas Michael Lawless
Timothy Lawless


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 27, 2009, 03:07:34 PM
J S Lawless
Jack S Lawless
Jack Stanfo Lawless
Jack Stanford Lawless
   84
   Address Available    Phone Available
Rosamond , CA
Grants Pass , OR
Santa Clarita , CA

Possible Relatives:
Blanca L Lawless
Cynthia Ann Lawless
Jack Stanford Lawless
Leonard Dwayne Lawless



Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 27, 2009, 03:17:36 PM
Here are the results for a criminal search on L Lawless in Grants Pass, Oregon
Snipped:
http://preview.ussearch.com/preview/ala/newsearch? (http://preview.ussearch.com/preview/ala/newsearch?)

Criminal Search Results

People found:
11 that match L Lawless in OR. (these are the ones with ties to Calif.)
= Available Information
first name mi last name (req) city - Any lived in state - Any lived in age
#    Name    Age    Phone    Address    City/State    Relatives    Premium Information

1.)    Lewis Lawless (He is listed as the same age as The Pastor Lawless - 77)
Lewis E Lawless
Lewis F Lawless
   77
   Address Available    Phone Available    
Agness , OR
Grants Pass , OR

Barbara M Lawless
Donald Thomas Lawless
Joseph L Lawless
Katie D Lawless
   View Details

2.)    Lloyd Lawless
Lloyd L Lawless
   42
   Address Available    Phone Available
Newberg , OR
Grants Pass , OR
Eureka , CA
Glendale , OR
Fort Polk , LA

Julia L Lawless
Julia Lawless
Sydney M Lawless
   View Details

3.)    Floyd Lawless
Lloyd Lawless
Lloyd T Lawless
Lloyd Thomas Lawless
Loyd T Lawless
   64
   Address Available    Phone Available    
Kelseyville , CA
Grants Pass , OR
Rogue River , OR
San Antonio , TX
Bay Point , CA
Seal Beach , CA
Redmond , WA
      View Details

4.)    Lori Brumble
           Lori L Lawless
   39
   Address Available    Phone Available
Rogue River , OR
Grants Pass , OR

Beverly J Lawless
   View Details



5.)     Lynn Lawless
Lynn M Lawless
Lynne M Lawless
Lynne Marie Lawless
Lynn Sherman
Lynn M Sherman
Lynn Marie Sherman
Lynne M Sherman
Lynne Marie Sherman
   38
   Address Available    Phone Available
Everett , WA
Seal Beach , CA
Bothell , WA
Kirkland , WA
Huntington Beach , CA
Grants Pass , OR
Santa Ana , CA
Concord , CA
Costa Mesa , CA
   

      


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Blink34 on May 27, 2009, 08:04:46 PM
Lone-

News updates were flooding me today, I could not keep up. I just wanted to stop in show support for the amazing work your doing. I'll see if I can enlist some help, lol.

B


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 27, 2009, 11:26:35 PM
Blink
You ROCK!
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/362049190_m.jpg)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 28, 2009, 12:51:28 AM
Lewis Lawless (age 77 like Pastor Lawless) from Grants Pass, Oregon
Interesting it's a PO Box #...


Name       Address       Lien Number       Lien type       Filed      Termination date       Lapse date
LAWLESS, LEWIS E.
[Individual]    PO BOX 1328
GRANTS PASS, OR 97526    631042    UCC    08-15-2003    ------------    08-15-2013

LAWLESS, LEWIS E
[Individual]    PO BOX 1328
GRANTS PASS, OR 97526    6530988    UCC    04-08-2004    ------------    04-08-2014

LAWLESS, LEWIS E
[Individual]    PO BOX 1778
GRANTS PASS, OR 97528-0216    6552621    UCC    04-28-2004    03-09-2005    04-28-2009

LAWLESS, LEWIS E.
[Individual]    PO BOX 1778
GRANTS PASS, OR 97528    6552748    UCC    04-28-2004    03-09-2005    04-28-2009

LAWLESS, LEWIS E.
[Individual]    PO BOX 1328
GRANTS PASS, OR 97526    7610080    UCC    05-07-2007    ------------    05-07-2012


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 28, 2009, 12:59:12 AM
Snipped:
http://www.birthdatabase.com/cgi-bin/query.pl?textfield=Lewis&textfield2=lawless&age= (http://www.birthdatabase.com/cgi-bin/query.pl?textfield=Lewis&textfield2=lawless&age=)

Birthdate for:
LEWIS E LAWLESS     1932-04-13     Brookings     OR

Snipped:
http://www1.wrd.state.or.us/files/Publications/klamath-adj/Pleadings/Claim_97Page3.html (http://www1.wrd.state.or.us/files/Publications/klamath-adj/Pleadings/Claim_97Page3.html)

Pleadings for claim 97
05/21/2004
    
   UNITED STATES OF AMERICA    AFFIDAVIT AND TESTIMONY OF DALE BOOK

05/21/2004    
   MARLENE AND LEWIS LAWLESS    CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
05/21/2004    
   MARLENE AND LEWIS LAWLESS    DIRECT TESTIMONY OF LEROY GIENGER
05/21/2004    
   MARLENE AND LEWIS LAWLESS    DIRECT TESTIMONY OF JAMES R. GOOLD
05/21/2004    
   MARLENE AND LEWIS LAWLESS    TRANSMITTAL LETTER
05/21/2004    
   MARLENE AND LEWIS LAWLESS    AFFIDAVIT OF VINCENT BODNER, JR IN SUPPORT OF
05/21/2004    
   MARLENE AND LEWIS LAWLESS    AFFIDAVIT OF JAMES R. GOOLD IN SUPPORT OF THE
05/21/2004    
   UNITED STATES OF AMERICA    CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
05/21/2004    
   MARLENE AND LEWIS LAWLESS    DIRECT TESTIMONY OF DONALD LAWLESS
05/21/2004    
   MARLENE AND LEWIS LAWLESS    AFFIDAVIT OF RONALD S. YOCKIM
07/01/2004    
   UNITED STATES OF AMERICA    AMENDMENT TO STIPULATION BETWEEN THE UNITED
07/06/2004    
   UNITED STATES OF AMERICA    NTC OF ELECTRONIC FILING - UNOPPOSED MTN TO
07/06/2004    
   UNITED STATES OF AMERICA    97 US MTN MODIFY SCHED ORDER
07/06/2004    
   UNITED STATES OF AMERICA    97 US CERT SERV
07/09/2004    
   MARLENE AND LEWIS LAWLESS    SUBMISSION OF ORIGINAL DIRECT TESTIMONY OF
07/13/2004    
   HOP    97 ORDER MODIFYING SCHEDULING ORDER
07/16/2004    
   UNITED STATES OF AMERICA    REBUTTAL TESTIMONY OF DALE BOOK
07/16/2004    
   UNITED STATES OF AMERICA    TRANSMITTAL LTR
07/16/2004    
   UNITED STATES OF AMERICA    97 US CERT SERVICE
07/16/2004    
   MARLENE AND LEWIS LAWLESS    CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
07/16/2004    
   MARLENE AND LEWIS LAWLESS    REBUTTAL TESTIMONY OF JAMES R. GOOLD
07/16/2004    
   UNITED STATES OF AMERICA    NTC OF ELECTRONIC FILING - REBUTTAL TESTIMONY
07/16/2004    
   MARLENE AND LEWIS LAWLESS    AFFIDAVIT OF RICK N BARNES
07/16/2004    
   UNITED STATES OF AMERICA    UNITED STATES' EXHIBIT 14 -- GOOLD DEPOSITION
07/16/2004    
   MARLENE AND LEWIS LAWLESS    LETTER SUBMITTING ORIGINAL SIGNED DOCUMENTS
07/16/2004    
   MARLENE AND LEWIS LAWLESS    REBUTTAL TESTIMONY OF DONALD LAWLESS
07/16/2004    
   MARLENE AND LEWIS LAWLESS    REBUTTAL AFFIDAVIT OF RONALD S YOCKIM
07/16/2004    
   MARLENE AND LEWIS LAWLESS    REBUTTAL TESTIMONY OF LEWIS LAWLESS
07/28/2004    
   THE KLAMATH TRIBES    97 TRIBES VOLUNTARY WITHDRAWAL OF CONTEST
07/28/2004    
   THE KLAMATH TRIBES    97 TRIBES CERT SERVICE
08/03/2004    
   UNITED STATES OF AMERICA    UNITED STATES' CONTEST AMENDMENT
08/03/2004    
   UNITED STATES OF AMERICA    UNITED STATES' MOTION TO FILE LATE CONTEST

   Thursday, July 06, 2006


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 28, 2009, 01:04:43 AM
Snipped:
http://www1.wrd.state.or.us/files/Publications/klamath-adj/Pleadings/Claim_97.html (http://www1.wrd.state.or.us/files/Publications/klamath-adj/Pleadings/Claim_97.html)

Pleadings for claim 97
05/11/2002
    
   KPWU    CERTIFICATE OF FILING/SERVICE - NTC OF CHANGE
08/19/2002    
   UNITED STATES OF AMERICA    CORRECTED NOTICE OF ELECTRONIC FILING --
11/21/2002    
   DRAFT CAPTION
11/21/2002    
   SERVICE MATRIX
05/06/2003    
   WATERWATCH OF OREGON, INC    LETTER TO HOP RE: DISMISSAL OF CONTESTS
05/09/2003    
   HOP    ORDER REQUIRING PREHEARING STATEMENTS
05/09/2003    
   HOP    INITIAL HOP LETTER
05/20/2003    
   HOP    ORDER DISMISSING WATERWATCH OF OREGON,
06/26/2003    
   THE KLAMATH TRIBES    97 TRIBES' PREHEARING STMT
06/26/2003    
   THE KLAMATH TRIBES    97 TRIBES' CERT SERVICE
06/30/2003    
   MARLENE AND LEWIS LAWLESS    97 LAWLESS PREHEARING STMT
06/30/2003    
   OWRD    97 OWRD PREHEARING STMT
06/30/2003    
   UNITED STATES OF AMERICA    97 US CERT SERVICE
06/30/2003    
   UNITED STATES OF AMERICA    97 US PREHEARING STMT
06/30/2003    
   MARLENE AND LEWIS LAWLESS    97 LAWLESS CERT SERVICE
06/30/2003    
   MARLENE AND LEWIS LAWLESS    97 LAWLESS TRANSMIT LTR
06/30/2003    
   KPWU    97 KPWU PREHEARING STMT
06/30/2003    
   OWRD    97 OWRD TRANSMITTAL LTR
06/30/2003    
   KPWU    CERTIFICATE OF FILING/SERVICE
07/10/2003    
   HOP    SCHEDULING ORDER
08/08/2003    
   OWRD    97 AFFIDAVIT TERI HRANAC
08/11/2003    
   OWRD    97 OWRD EXHIBIT 1
08/11/2003    
   OWRD    97 CERT FILING-SERVICE
08/11/2003    
   OWRD    97 Letter to Judge Young
08/28/2003    
   MARLENE AND LEWIS LAWLESS    97 LAWLESS DISC TO TRIBES
08/28/2003    
   MARLENE AND LEWIS LAWLESS    97 LAWLESS TRANSMIT LTR
08/28/2003    
   MARLENE AND LEWIS LAWLESS    97 LAWLESS CERT SERVICE TRIBES
08/28/2003    
   MARLENE AND LEWIS LAWLESS    97 LAWLESS DISC TO US
08/28/2003    
   MARLENE AND LEWIS LAWLESS    97 LAWLESS LTR TO US
08/28/2003    
   MARLENE AND LEWIS LAWLESS    97 LAWLESS CERT SERV US
09/11/2003    
   KPWU    CERT OF FILING-SERVICE
09/11/2003    
   KPWU    97 KPWU DISC TO LAWLESS

   Thursday, July 06, 2006


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 28, 2009, 01:16:15 AM
Snipped:
http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_88dzy (http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_88dzy)

Lawless Roofing Inc
501 Lawless Ln, Grants Pass, OR 97526-7101


Contact Phone:    (541) 479-****
URL (web address):    
Business Category:    Roofing/Siding Contractor in Grants Pass, OR
Industry (SIC):    Roofing, Siding, and Sheet Metal Work

Estimate My Roofing Cost Compare 3 Local Roofing Bids 3 Roofing Bids in 9 seconds!

Roofing Estimates Find Five-Star Rated Roofing Pros Backed by Our Service Guarantee!

The ads are not affiliated with Lawless Roofing Inc
Business Information

This company profile is for the private company Lawless Roofing Inc , located in Grants Pass, OR. Lawless Roofing Inc's line of business is roofing/siding contractor.
Company Name:    Lawless Roofing Inc

Address:    501 Lawless Ln, Grants Pass, OR 97526-7101 (Map)
Alt Business Name:    
Location Type:    Single Location
Est. Annual Sales:    $2,300,000
Est. # of Employees:    35
Est. Empl. at Loc.:    35
Year Started:    1951
State of Incorp:    OR
SIC #Code:    1761
Contact's Name:    Lewis Lawless
Contact's Title:    President

NAICS:    Roofing Contractors


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 28, 2009, 01:36:06 AM
Snipped:
http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_cbtwnt (http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_cbtwnt)

Clover Road Baptist Church
11000 W Clover Rd, Tracy, CA 95376-1703


Contact Phone:    (209) 836-4171
URL (web address):    www.clover-road-baptist-church.com
Business Category:    Religious Organization in Tracy, CA
Industry (SIC):    Religious Organizations

The ads are not affiliated with Clover Road Baptist Church
Business Information

This company profile is for the private company Clover Road Baptist Church , located in Tracy, CA. Clover Road Baptist Church's line of business is religious organization.
Company Name:    Clover Road Baptist Church
Address:    11000 W Clover Rd, Tracy, CA 95376-1703 (Map)
Alt Business Name:    
Location Type:    Single Location
Est. Annual Sales:    
Est. # of Employees:    1
Est. Empl. at Loc.:    1
Year Started:    1957
State of Incorp:    CA
SIC #Code:    padlock icon View Details
Contact's Name:    Lane Lawless
Contact's Title:    Pastor
NAICS:    Religious Organizations


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 28, 2009, 01:41:46 AM
Snipped:
http://www.mahalo.com/Clover_Road_Baptist_Church (http://www.mahalo.com/Clover_Road_Baptist_Church)

Fast Facts

   1. Church address: 11000 West Clover Road, Tracy, CA 95376
   2. Church phone number: (209) 836-4171
   3. The Clover Road Baptist Church is the product of a merger between Victory and Sovereign Grace Baptist churches
   4. Church bible study is on Sundays at 10:45 a.m.
   5. Worship services are Sundays at 12:00 p.m. and 2:30 p.m., and Wednesdays at 7:30 p.m.
   6. Witnesses state that evidence was removed from the church during the night of April 6
   7. The pastor of the church lived in the Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park
   8. A home in the mobile home park was searched, but as of April 7, police have not identified the owner
   9. The church is not far from the drainage ditch, in which Cantu's body was found

Pastor Lane Lawless

Pastor Lane Lawless began leading the Clover Road Baptist Church in 1981, after having taken over the position from Elder A.A. Harris. Lawless' wife, Connie is the daughter of the former pastor. He and his wife were married in 1960 and have three children, Brian, Brett, and Joni, and nine grandchildren.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 28, 2009, 12:44:29 PM
Snipped:
http://www.veromi.net/Summary.asp (http://www.veromi.net/Summary.asp)

I find this entry interesting...
The age is off by 10 years (Pastor Lawless is 77) yet the associated names are correct.  When compared with the next entry... we see only the relatives we *know* about.

LAWLESS,�CLIFFORD�LANE (Age 67)

Associated names:
�LAWLESS,�LANE�C
�LAWLESS,�LANE�L
�LAWLESS,�LANE�PASTR
�LAWLOR,�LANE�
   Available(3)    Available
TRACY,�CA
SAN JOSE,�CA
LIVERMORE,�CA


Possible Relatives:
HUGHES,�JONI�IRENE�(Age�41)
LAWLESS,�CLANE�(Age�31)
LAWLESS,�LANE�PASTR
LAWLESS,�PSTR�LANE
LAWLESS,�CONNIE�L�(Age�67)

Possible Roommates / Associates:
CHAMMISA,�CHERYL�(Age�47)
CHAMMISA,�JEFF
MARTINEZ,�PORFIRIO

So who are they?  Members of the church?  Roommates?


LAWLESS,�CLIFFORD�L
   Available(2)    Available    LA HABRA,�CA    

Possible Relatives:
LAWLESS,�JUDY�A�(Age�49)
LAWLESS,�BRIAN�L�(Age�48)
LAWLESS,�ADAM�B�(Age�23)
LAWLESS,�MELISSA�CHANTEL�(Age�27)
LAWLESS,�CONNIE
LAWLESS,�LANE�BRIAN�
   View Details


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 28, 2009, 01:07:17 PM
Snipped:
http://preview.ussearch.com/preview/ala/newsearch?&searchLName=Chammisa&searchState=CA&searchCity=Tracy&searchFName=Jeff&adID=238000C913&adsource=108&TID=0&searchtab=home (http://preview.ussearch.com/preview/ala/newsearch?&searchLName=Chammisa&searchState=CA&searchCity=Tracy&searchFName=Jeff&adID=238000C913&adsource=108&TID=0&searchtab=home)

Plugging in Jeff Chammisa, possible roommate(?) of Connie & Lane Lawless

People found: 1 that match Jeff Chammisa in CA.
= Available Information
first name mi last name (req) city - Any lived in state - Any lived in age
#    Name    Age    Phone    Address    City/State    Relatives    Premium Information
1    Sheryl Camisa
S Cammisa
Sherly A Cammisa
Sheryl Cammisa
Sheryl A Cammisa
Sheryl A Davis
   46
   Address Available    Phone Available    
Salida , CA
Tracy , CA
Patterson , CA
San Ramon , CA
Dublin , CA

This is from the Timothy Lawless Connection vine (thread):

Good Afternoon Monkeys !!! I believe I have connected some phone numbers that are unlisted and unpublished.
This post may be long but I wanted to be able to show the trail and how I have connected Clifford Lane Lawless, Jeffrey Olson's unlisted number and Annette Cammissa. I don't know what the connection is but you can look at the building on google.

In regard to post #1548 and the chammisa name and jeffrey olson please check this out.---?????????????

 Sheryl Cammisa
Sheryl A Cammisa
Sheryl Camisa
S Cammisa
Sherly A Cammisa
Cheryl Chammisa
Sheryl A Davis
 46
     Salida , CA
Tracy , CA
Patterson , CA
San Ramon , CA
Dublin , CA
 Amanda R Cammisa
Annette M Cammisa
Gregory S Cammisa
Jeffrey A Cammisa

CHAMMISA, CHERYL  (Age 46)
Associated names:
 CAMMISA,  SHERYL
Available TRACY, CA Possible Relatives:
CHAMMISA, JEFF
Possible Roommates / Associates:
LAWLESS, CLIFFORD LANE (Age 68)

 Sheryl Cammisa
      Tracy , CA
 Annette M Cammisa
 View Details 
2 Sheryl Cammisa
      Tracy , CA
 Annette M Cammisa
 View Details 
3 Sheryl Cammisa
Sheryl A Cammisa
Sheryl Camisa
S Cammisa
Sherly A Cammisa
Cheryl Chammisa
Sheryl A Davis
 46
     Salida , CA
Tracy , CA
Patterson , CA
San Ramon , CA
Dublin , CA
 Amanda R Cammisa
Annette M Cammisa
Gregory S Cammisa
Jeffrey A Cammisa

Sheryl Davis work
25800 Industrial Blvd, Apt AA2313
Hayward, CA 94545-5229
View phone
Listing Details
Job title: Owner
Company: Sheryl's Fantasy Sensations < i can't find any info address, phone etc for this business

Jeffrey Cammisa
Jeffrey A Cammisa
Jeffery A Camisa
Jeff Cammisa
Jeff A Cammisa
 47
     Boise , ID
Stockton , CA
Altaville , CA
Tracy , CA                 <<notice all these locations
Patterson , CA
Dublin , CA
San Ramon , CA
Pleasanton , CA
Walnut Creek , CA

 Annette M Cammisa
Gregory S Cammisa
Sheryl A Cammisa

Annette Cammisa home
street address not available
Tracy, CA
(209) 834-2914 < no address
This number on google points to a location on E 11th st between Adam st and Holly St or across from Adam st. (see map on white pages reverse searc for number location)



(209) 835-8024  < this is number Jeffrey Olson has for himself. it is unpublished w/no address
Type: Land Line

Provider: Pacific Bell
Location: Tracy, CA
Due to number portability, some numbers have been transferred to a new service
provider.Type: Land Line
 Provider: Pacific Bell
Location: Tracy, CA
This number on google also points to a location on E 11th St between Adam St and Holly St or straight across from Adam St. (see map on white pages reverse search for number location)



Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 28, 2009, 01:40:37 PM
Snipped:
http://www.veromi.net/Default.asp?vw=people&input=name&fn=jeffrey&mn=a&ln=chammisa&city=&state=&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=&age=&1=A6&2=C334A74518B1636F3A37168EC1AE9BF14661&3=BA&Codes=%3B%3B (http://www.veromi.net/Default.asp?vw=people&input=name&fn=jeffrey&mn=a&ln=chammisa&city=&state=&dobmm=&dobdd=&doby=&age=&1=A6&2=C334A74518B1636F3A37168EC1AE9BF14661&3=BA&Codes=%3B%3B)

Hmmm,
This is odd.  It seems strange there is not much on record for a Jeff Chammisa...
Only that he is/was an Associate/Roommate of Lane Lawless.

No matches were found for JEFFREY A CHAMMISA


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 28, 2009, 01:55:10 PM
So...Jeff is just Jeff, apparently.
Snipped:
http://www.veromi.net/Summary.asp (http://www.veromi.net/Summary.asp)

People Search: CHAMMISA,�JEFF�
<< Search Again

1�Match�Found�(100 max.)
�    Name/AKAs    Phone    Address    City, State    Possible Relatives    �
1.    CHAMMISA,�JEFF�

Associated names:
�CAMMISA,��JEFFERY
   Available(1)    Available    TRACY,�CA    Possible Relatives:
CHAMMISA,�CHERYL�(Age�46)

Possible Roommates / Associates:
LAWLESS,�CLIFFORD�LANE�(Age�68)
CAMMISA,�JEFFREY�A�(Age�49)

This and the above posts are ALL I can find on either of them...


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 28, 2009, 02:03:11 PM
Snipped:
http://whitepages.addresses.com/results.php?ReportType=34&qc=tracy&qf=Porfirio&qn=martinez&qs=CA&qk=100 (http://whitepages.addresses.com/results.php?ReportType=34&qc=tracy&qf=Porfirio&qn=martinez&qs=CA&qk=100)

Possible Associate/Roommate:
Porfirio Martinez is listed as an Associate/Roommate of Lane Lawless.
Check out where he is listed as living!

Porfirio Martinez
812 W Clover Rd #57
Tracy, CA 95376

(209) 836-****
Add to Address Book | Map
   


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: love4ever on May 28, 2009, 03:56:06 PM
So...Jeff is just Jeff, apparently.
Snipped:
http://www.veromi.net/Summary.asp (http://www.veromi.net/Summary.asp)

People Search: CHAMMISA,�JEFF�
<< Search Again

1�Match�Found�(100 max.)
�    Name/AKAs    Phone    Address    City, State    Possible Relatives    �
1.    CHAMMISA,�JEFF�

Associated names:
�CAMMISA,��JEFFERY
   Available(1)    Available    TRACY,�CA    Possible Relatives:
CHAMMISA,�CHERYL�(Age�46)

Possible Roommates / Associates:
LAWLESS,�CLIFFORD�LANE�(Age�68)
CAMMISA,�JEFFREY�A�(Age�49)

This and the above posts are ALL I can find on either of them...

There has mass Research and alot of credited work in the; "The Timothy Lawless - Melissa Huckaby Connection" which you did too..lol

The information you are looking for can be found on page 79 of that thread.

I know now, that when searching for certain names in this family
that we have to do a lot of juggling with whole names or just a few single letters. Name changing has been going on since who knows when, but it mostly consisted of one
using their mothers maiden name etc, other associated family names were used, but long ago that was the common way. In the families that were are researching now it seems as even a simple letter change is very becoming of them..lol..

An example cited here:

The Importance of Given Names
by Donna Przecha    

http://www.genealogy.com/35_donna.html


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: love4ever on May 28, 2009, 04:30:27 PM
And sorry for posting that again Lone I didnt see 4getunots post..sorry ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 28, 2009, 10:34:14 PM
I made this Loving Tribute the day of Sandra's Memorial...
So much grief I needed to express!
I hope you Monkeys enjoy this.

http://www.youtube.com/v/P_3gL5bZMgE


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Blink34 on May 29, 2009, 10:39:47 AM
Lone-

Extraordinary. I am without words except to say thank you.

Monkeys grab your tissues.
B


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: MunkeyMunk on May 29, 2009, 12:01:55 PM

Beautiful, Lone thank you
monkey huggggs!!


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on May 29, 2009, 01:15:05 PM
Lone you are local right? Did you by chance go to the memorial? Words do not fully express the feeling surrounding that area. it was so quiet, no one was talking but everyone was there together. 

I have seen Sandra in person before. I had not written about it I don't think. My work had taken me to the mobile home park a time or two. I was struck at the sense of community there and by the way the kids always played together . The older kids watched the younger ones. Adults were out talking...I recall seeing Sandra running around  with a few other children. She stood out because she was absolutely beautiful and full of life. she was the type that are just noticed I suppose, a type it seemed people were drawn to. Even in death she had that ability to draw people to her. I along with many others will never forget her.

BTW, if you all would like me to go place flowers or a stuffed monkey, I will. I am planning on going there sometime soon.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 29, 2009, 02:32:10 PM
Lone you are local right? Did you by chance go to the memorial? Words do not fully express the feeling surrounding that area. it was so quiet, no one was talking but everyone was there together. 

I have seen Sandra in person before. I had not written about it I don't think. My work had taken me to the mobile home park a time or two. I was struck at the sense of community there and by the way the kids always played together . The older kids watched the younger ones. Adults were out talking...I recall seeing Sandra running around  with a few other children. She stood out because she was absolutely beautiful and full of life. she was the type that are just noticed I suppose, a type it seemed people were drawn to. Even in death she had that ability to draw people to her. I along with many others will never forget her.

BTW, if you all would like me to go place flowers or a stuffed monkey, I will. I am planning on going there sometime soon.

WOW!!!!
What a WONDERFUL and touching post Tracy!!!!!! ::MonkeyAngel::

No, I am not in Tracy and did not attend her Memorial.  I am about 1-2 hours away.  But she captured something inside my heart and I can't let go!  Perhaps it was her incredible embodiment of what a childhood SHOULD be...skipping happily worry-free.  Innocent.  Pure. 
Or
Maybe it's because someone tried to abduct me, too when I was 8...
But that was a stranger so I knew to RUN...
How could Sandra ever in her wildest imagination even know an adult could be capable of such heinous cruelty???  She never stood a chance.

These cases....Caylee, Adji, Haleigh, Sandra....and many more!
Have stirred something SO deep inside of me this past year.  I wish I were an Angel and I could save them all....
But I am mortal.
Still, I have a burning desire for JUSTICE...
Just like you Monkeys!

This is what Scared Monkeys is ALL about...JUSTICE!!!!
I deeply respect you Monkeys and ALL you do for love and the commitment to JUSTICE!!!!
  LM
PS I would love it if you left a monkey for us!!!


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 29, 2009, 02:37:14 PM

Beautiful, Lone thank you
monkey huggggs!!

MONKEY HUGS BACK!!!!

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb275/blh752/hugs.jpg)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 29, 2009, 03:00:12 PM
Ok Blink...
In my research for this vine, I have reached a Phillipines-Lawless Connection.  I wonder if I should post it here or not.  Do you know of this connection?  There is a lot of Sex Slave traffic thru there, right?

Hmmmm...
I'll post it here and you can move it if you need to.

So, Melissa is the eldest of 3.
She has 2 younger brother Caleb and Adam.
Caleb has a BEBO (similiar to MySpace) account and located within it are MANY photos he has posted.
In 1 album he titled "EXODUS"...
He is in the Philippines I believe.
Now, curiously Gary the Poet Lawless goes there, too!

So here are some links and photos...
Caleb Lawless
Snipped:
http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=408459217 (http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=408459217)

hi everyone since I only have one friend hello there. :)
Gender         
Male   
Profile Views   
78 times   
Hometown   Country
Orange county   United States
Caleb Lawless's URL
http://www.bebo.com/cpoloha
   
Music
all kinds, just not country
Films
dazed and confused, noahs arc, north shore, without a paddle, and much much more
Sports
water polo, swimming, surfing
Scared Of
spiders, sharks
Happiest When
I have food and someone interesting to talk to you

Photos from EXODUS & PHILOS:(the curly haired blonde is Melissa's brother)
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/408459217a1321458298b809267771l.jpg)
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/408459217a444771664b479999844l.jpg)
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/408459217a1321471015b325170115l.jpg)

Gary The Poet Lawless
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/lawless.gif)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Blink34 on May 29, 2009, 03:18:40 PM
Lone, I am going to say I think I have that connection through the missionary work of his church. I also believe some of the Cali Lawless's adopt kids from the different areas.

Psst. I have a secret. Nobody nibbled on the bait I put in the original thread on the Texas Connections, should I bump it and see if someone catches it and wants to start the Texas thread?  Personally, that is where I believe we will find Gary, among other things.
B


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 29, 2009, 03:25:30 PM
Lone, I am going to say I think I have that connection through the missionary work of his church. I also believe some of the Cali Lawless's adopt kids from the different areas.

Psst. I have a secret. Nobody nibbled on the bait I put in the original thread on the Texas Connections, should I bump it and see if someone catches it and wants to start the Texas thread?  Personally, that is where I believe we will find Gary, among other things.
B
I say...
DO IT!!!!! ::MonkeyDance::
Let's get these talented Monkeys rollin'  ::cartwheel::
 Lm :)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 29, 2009, 03:33:04 PM
Here's a start....
Jack Lawless
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/JackLawless.jpg)

Person ID
5904936    Sex
MALE    Race
WHITE    Height
508
Weight
160    Hair Color
Brown    Eye Color
BLUE    Ethnic
UNKNOWN - CCH
Name ID
14190116    Name
LAWLESS,JACK SIDNEY

Alias Name:
Name ID
14190112    Alias Name
BUBBA,NICKNAME

Name ID
14190113    Alias Name
LAWLESS,BUBBA

Name ID
14190114    Alias Name
LAWLESS,JACK

Name ID
14190115    Alias Name
LAWLESS,JACK S

Birthdate(s)

Date of Birth ID
6302387    Person ID
5904936    Date of Birth Type
B    Date of Birth
1949-09-14 00:00:00.000

Individual Data

Individual ID
5904936    DPS Number
01416813

Individual ID
5904936    DPS No.
01416813    Risk

none found    SSZ Code

none found
SWD Code

Registration Event

Event ID
19645417    Event
Change of Status    Event Date
2009-02-25 00:00:00.000    ORI Text
TXHPD0000

Address Event

Address Event ID
9056745    PDV Code
Texas Resident

Address

Address ID
16199913    Street/P.O. Box Number
1008    Street Name
MCGOWEN ST    Apartment No.
5
City
HOUSTON    Place Type
U.S. STATES    Place
Texas    ZIP Code
77002
County Code
HARRIS

Education Event

Education Event ID
71790    PDV Code
None    Education ID

Education

none found
License Event

License Event ID
51983    PDV Code
None    License ID

License

none found
Occupation Event

Occupation Event ID
14043744    PDV Code
Unemployed    Occupation ID

Occupation

none found
Offense

Offense ID
2444853    Place Type
U.S. STATES    Place
Texas    Offense Code
36990013
Version No.
1    Out of State Code
TX    Out of State Offense
   General Offense Code
Dis. Flag
N    OST Code
PAR    CPR Code
7Y    CDD Date
1999-02-24 00:00:00.000
AOV No.
17    SOV Code
F

Offense Detail

Place Type
U.S. STATES    Place
Texas    Offense Code
36990013    Version No.
1
Offense Description
INDECENCY W/A CHILD EXPOSES    TXC Code
36990013    Status Code
A    Citation
21.11 (a)(2)

Offense ID
2444854    Place Type
U.S. STATES    Place
Texas    Offense Code
36990013
Version No.
1    Out of State Code
TX    Out of State Offense
   General Offense Code
Dis. Flag
N    OST Code
PAR    CPR Code
97Y    CDD Date
1999-02-24 00:00:00.000
AOV No.
17    SOV Code
F

Offense Detail

Place Type
U.S. STATES    Place
Texas    Offense Code
36990013    Version No.
1
Offense Description
INDECENCY W/A CHILD EXPOSES    TXC Code
36990013    Status Code
A    Citation
21.11 (a)(2)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 29, 2009, 03:34:49 PM
Sorry that was snipped from:
http://search.criminalcheck.com/PDdetails.php?db=TXSOR_ALIAS_NAME&rec=61651&ed=177&dlnumber=CC&dlstate=CC&id=CC (http://search.criminalcheck.com/PDdetails.php?db=TXSOR_ALIAS_NAME&rec=61651&ed=177&dlnumber=CC&dlstate=CC&id=CC)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 29, 2009, 03:43:12 PM
Next up we got...
Robert Lee Lawless (got the infamous middle name initial L)
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/RLLawless.jpg)

Person ID
10088955    Sex
MALE    Race
WHITE    Height
604
Weight
200    Hair Color
Gray or Partially Gray    Eye Color
HAZEL    Ethnic
NON-HISPANIC

Name

Name ID
23939268    Name
LAWLESS,ROBERT LEE

Alias Names

none found
Birthdate(s)

Date of Birth ID
9854054    Person ID
10088955    Date of Birth Type
B    Date of Birth
1944-12-21 00:00:00.000

Individual Data

Individual ID
11103359    DPS Number
04891532

Individual Sex Offender Registration

Individual ID
11103359    DPS No.
04891532    Risk

none found    SSZ Code

none found
SWD Code

none found    ERT Code

none found    ERD Date
   VRP Code

none found

Registration Event

Event ID
19642482    Event
Change of Status    Event Date
2008-10-31 00:00:00.000    ORI Text
txspd0000

Address Event

Address Event ID
9053753    PDV Code
Incarcerated

Address

Address ID
16198672    Street/P.O. Box Number
   Street Name
   Apartment No.
City
   Place Type
U.S. STATES    Place
Texas    ZIP Code
County Code
Education
none found
License Event
License Event ID
49046    PDV Code
None    License ID
License

none found
Occupation Event

Occupation Event ID
14040778    PDV Code
Unemployed    Occupation ID

Occupation

none found
Offense

Offense ID
2479366    Place Type
U.S. STATES    Place
Texas    Offense Code
37040001
Version No.
1    Out of State Code
TX    Out of State Offense
   General Offense Code
Dis. Flag
Y    OST Code
UNK    CPR Code
5Y    CDD Date
1993-07-22 00:00:00.000
AOV No.
0    SOV Code
U

Offense Detail

Place Type
U.S. STATES    Place
Texas    Offense Code
37040001    Version No.
1
Offense Description
POSS OF CHILD PORNOGRAPHY    TXC Code
37040001    Status Code
A    Citation
43.26 (a)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Blink34 on May 29, 2009, 03:56:31 PM
Next up we got...
Robert Lee Lawless (got the infamous middle name initial L)
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/RLLawless.jpg)

Person ID
10088955    Sex
MALE    Race
WHITE    Height
604
Weight
200    Hair Color
Gray or Partially Gray    Eye Color
HAZEL    Ethnic
NON-HISPANIC

Name

Name ID
23939268    Name
LAWLESS,ROBERT LEE

Alias Names

none found
Birthdate(s)

Date of Birth ID
9854054    Person ID
10088955    Date of Birth Type
B    Date of Birth
1944-12-21 00:00:00.000

Individual Data

Individual ID
11103359    DPS Number
04891532

Individual Sex Offender Registration

Individual ID
11103359    DPS No.
04891532    Risk

none found    SSZ Code

none found
SWD Code

none found    ERT Code

none found    ERD Date
   VRP Code

none found

Registration Event

Event ID
19642482    Event
Change of Status    Event Date
2008-10-31 00:00:00.000    ORI Text
txspd0000

Address Event

Address Event ID
9053753    PDV Code
Incarcerated

Address

Address ID
16198672    Street/P.O. Box Number
   Street Name
   Apartment No.
City
   Place Type
U.S. STATES    Place
Texas    ZIP Code
County Code
Education
none found
License Event
License Event ID
49046    PDV Code
None    License ID
License

none found
Occupation Event

Occupation Event ID
14040778    PDV Code
Unemployed    Occupation ID

Occupation

none found
Offense

Offense ID
2479366    Place Type
U.S. STATES    Place
Texas    Offense Code
37040001
Version No.
1    Out of State Code
TX    Out of State Offense
   General Offense Code
Dis. Flag
Y    OST Code
UNK    CPR Code
5Y    CDD Date
1993-07-22 00:00:00.000
AOV No.
0    SOV Code
U

Offense Detail

Place Type
U.S. STATES    Place
Texas    Offense Code
37040001    Version No.
1
Offense Description
POSS OF CHILD PORNOGRAPHY    TXC Code
37040001    Status Code
A    Citation
43.26 (a)



Lone, could I call on you start the Texas/Ok/KS thread?
Im cracking up right now, your like on "automatics', lol. Awesome.
I fear if we dont keep the geography intact we will miss someone :)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 29, 2009, 03:59:30 PM
Robert Lawless

work

5615 Armour Dr
Snipped:
http://www.whitepages.com/16176/track/10215/search/Replay?search_id=20291301915171133025&lower=1&more_info=1 (http://www.whitepages.com/16176/track/10215/search/Replay?search_id=20291301915171133025&lower=1&more_info=1)

Robert L Lawless
Houston, TX 77020-8004
(713) 671-****
Type: unavailable
Provider: unavailable
Location: unavailable

Job title: Plant Manager
Company: The Lawless Group


Robert L Lawless
home
3603 Windy Ridge Ct

San Antonio, TX 78259-2612
(210) 481-****

Household:
Rodney L Lawless, Kimberly Lawless

Snipped:

http://www.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1& (http://www.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&)
Robert Lee Lawless
View Details
   64
Austin, TX
San Antonio, TX
Azle, TX
Fort Worth, TX
Roswell, GA
   intelius.com
Relatives:        
Phalba Lawless




Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 29, 2009, 04:03:06 PM
Quote
Lone, could I call on you start the Texas/Ok/KS thread?
Im cracking up right now, your like on "automatics', lol. Awesome.
I fear if we dont keep the geography intact we will miss someone :)

I'm craaaazy fingers! ::MonkeyHaHa::
Yea, sure thing!
I will post the stuff over on that vine...hee hee


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 29, 2009, 04:06:25 PM
Lone, I am going to say I think I have that connection through the missionary work of his church. I also believe some of the Cali Lawless's adopt kids from the different areas.

Psst. I have a secret. Nobody nibbled on the bait I put in the original thread on the Texas Connections, should I bump it and see if someone catches it and wants to start the Texas thread?  Personally, that is where I believe we will find Gary, among other things.
B
Re-posting from the CA/OR Connection...


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 29, 2009, 04:07:47 PM
Lone, I am going to say I think I have that connection through the missionary work of his church. I also believe some of the Cali Lawless's adopt kids from the different areas.

Psst. I have a secret. Nobody nibbled on the bait I put in the original thread on the Texas Connections, should I bump it and see if someone catches it and wants to start the Texas thread?  Personally, that is where I believe we will find Gary, among other things.
B
I say...
DO IT!!!!! ::MonkeyDance::
Let's get these talented Monkeys rollin'  ::cartwheel::
 Lm :)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 29, 2009, 04:19:16 PM
Be back soon Monkeys...
(http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m389/Journey1954/monkeys.gif)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Sister on May 30, 2009, 10:01:28 AM
On Blink's site at comment #419 you will find photo of Robert, Richard and CLL, at comment #414 you will see a photo of a Lane Lawless, and at comment #340 you will see a mention of Landon Lawless.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Blink34 on May 30, 2009, 10:22:48 AM
On Blink's site at comment #419 you will find photo of Robert, Richard and CLL, at comment #414 you will see a photo of a Lane Lawless, and at comment #340 you will see a mention of Landon Lawless.

Sister - Can you be so kind as to refresh my memory on the date of the marriage of Gary D Lawless and Marilyn Short Tieken Lawless Gomes? I recall they divorced a month later. I am trying to figure out on the Texas/Ok/KS if the Gary D Lawless, deceased 1975 near DeBerry, is our guy. His Mom is a Betty (not sure) Lawless. He seems to potentially have some sort of infirmery from 1968- till his death in 1975.
B


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 30, 2009, 05:22:17 PM
Does anyone know the name of the Cemetery on Lawless Lane in Grants Pass Oregon?
I'd like to see who is buried there?
Any Monkey?
  Lm


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 30, 2009, 07:28:15 PM
Does anyone know the name of the Cemetery on Lawless Lane in Grants Pass Oregon?
I'd like to see who is buried there?
Any Monkey?
  Lm

Still searching for the above...
But this interesting
Snipped:
http://www.interment.net/data/us/or/josephine/granite_hill/gran_jl.htm (http://www.interment.net/data/us/or/josephine/granite_hill/gran_jl.htm)

Lawless, Baby Girl,
b. (6/23/1952), d. 6/23/1952, Aged 0 yrs 0 mos 0 days, mortuary marker, Plot S/15/L6-10, [JB]


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 30, 2009, 07:38:01 PM
Does anyone know the name of the Cemetery on Lawless Lane in Grants Pass Oregon?
I'd like to see who is buried there?
Any Monkey?
  Lm

Still searching for the above...
But this interesting
Snipped:
http://www.interment.net/data/us/or/josephine/granite_hill/gran_jl.htm (http://www.interment.net/data/us/or/josephine/granite_hill/gran_jl.htm)

Lawless, Baby Girl,
b. (6/23/1952), d. 6/23/1952, Aged 0 yrs 0 mos 0 days, mortuary marker, Plot S/15/L6-10, [JB]

I checked ALL public listings for cemeteries (including Family Cemeteries) in Grants Pass, Oregon.
NONE of them seem to be the one that shows up across the street from:
501 Lawless Lane
Grant Pass, Oregon

Lawless Roofing/Donald Lawless w/ connections to Pastor Lawless as "President".
This baby girl, is in fact the only Lawless listed as buried in Grants Pass, that I could find.
So watcha think about that Monkeys??? ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 30, 2009, 09:05:48 PM
Hmmm
Well this is curious Monkeys...
I would imagine this is a different Melissa Lawless but I did notice that the funeral services were for a Pastor in Maine which is where Gary the Poet Lawless is...
This is the church he is affiliated with
[imghttp://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/church_frontview.jpg][/img]

Snipped:
http://www.123people.com/ext/frm?ti=person%20finder&search_term=melissa%20lawless&search_country=US&st=person%20finder&target_url=http%3A%2F%2Flrd.yahooapis.com%2F_ylc%3DX3oDMTVnNzlwb2E1BF9TAzIwMjMxNTI3MDIEYXBwaWQDc1k3Wlo2clYzNEhSZm5ZdGVmcmkzRUx4VG5makpERG5QOWVKV1NGSkJHcTJ1V1dFa0xVdm5IYnNBeUNyVkd5Y2REVElUX2tlBGNsaWVudANib3NzBHNlcnZpY2UDQk9TUwRzbGsDdGl0bGUEc3JjcHZpZANfLnVIejJLSWNycXpENFhIU29ibUYuTXJXODV4NDBvYzRJTUFEZ0sw%2FSIG%3D12puaiiv7%2F**http%253A%2F%2Fwww.pnne2.org%2FDocuments%2FMinutes%2FPresbytery%252520Minutes%252520W%25252020090314.pdf&section=document&wrt_id=257 (http://www.123people.com/ext/frm?ti=person%20finder&search_term=melissa%20lawless&search_country=US&st=person%20finder&target_url=http%3A%2F%2Flrd.yahooapis.com%2F_ylc%3DX3oDMTVnNzlwb2E1BF9TAzIwMjMxNTI3MDIEYXBwaWQDc1k3Wlo2clYzNEhSZm5ZdGVmcmkzRUx4VG5makpERG5QOWVKV1NGSkJHcTJ1V1dFa0xVdm5IYnNBeUNyVkd5Y2REVElUX2tlBGNsaWVudANib3NzBHNlcnZpY2UDQk9TUwRzbGsDdGl0bGUEc3JjcHZpZANfLnVIejJLSWNycXpENFhIU29ibUYuTXJXODV4NDBvYzRJTUFEZ0sw%2FSIG%3D12puaiiv7%2F**http%253A%2F%2Fwww.pnne2.org%2FDocuments%2FMinutes%2FPresbytery%252520Minutes%252520W%25252020090314.pdf&section=document&wrt_id=257)

Melissa Lawless appeared before the committee to begin her training as a Commissioned Lay Pastor, having previously been approved by the session of the Antrim  Presbyterian Church.

Our current roster is as follows:
Candidates: Beth Richeson
Inquirers: Cynthia Kekung
CLP trainees: Claire Austin
Matthew Long
Ricky Rivera
Melissa Lawless


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 30, 2009, 09:06:54 PM
Gary the poet Lawless
 Church
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/church_frontview.jpg)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 30, 2009, 09:46:23 PM
Does anyone know the name of the Cemetery on Lawless Lane in Grants Pass Oregon?
I'd like to see who is buried there?
Any Monkey?
  Lm

Still searching for the above...
But this interesting
Snipped:
http://www.interment.net/data/us/or/josephine/granite_hill/gran_jl.htm (http://www.interment.net/data/us/or/josephine/granite_hill/gran_jl.htm)

Lawless, Baby Girl,
b. (6/23/1952), d. 6/23/1952, Aged 0 yrs 0 mos 0 days, mortuary marker, Plot S/15/L6-10, [JB]

I checked ALL public listings for cemeteries (including Family Cemeteries) in Grants Pass, Oregon.
NONE of them seem to be the one that shows up across the street from:
501 Lawless Lane
Grant Pass, Oregon

Lawless Roofing/Donald Lawless w/ connections to Pastor Lawless as "President".
This baby girl, is in fact the only Lawless listed as buried in Grants Pass, that I could find.
So watcha think about that Monkeys??? ::MonkeyConfused::


Okie-Doke
I think I finally found the name of the cemetery across the street..
Tokay Heights Cemetery

Snipped:
http://yellowpages.superpages.com/mapbasedsearch/mapsearch.jsp?SRC=searchbug&C=Lawless+Roofing+Heating+Air&STYPE=S&L=Grants+Pass+OR&R=N&EG=1&RR=10&LID=0505524529&map.x=212&map.y=125&level=8&lat=042437216&lng=-123293597&POI1lat=042437216&POI1lng=-123293597&POI1name=Lawless+Roofing+Heating+Air&streetaddress=501+Lawless+Lane&city=Grants+Pass&state=OR&zip=97526&spad=no (http://yellowpages.superpages.com/mapbasedsearch/mapsearch.jsp?SRC=searchbug&C=Lawless+Roofing+Heating+Air&STYPE=S&L=Grants+Pass+OR&R=N&EG=1&RR=10&LID=0505524529&map.x=212&map.y=125&level=8&lat=042437216&lng=-123293597&POI1lat=042437216&POI1lng=-123293597&POI1name=Lawless+Roofing+Heating+Air&streetaddress=501+Lawless+Lane&city=Grants+Pass&state=OR&zip=97526&spad=no)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 30, 2009, 10:01:06 PM
The cemetery across the small road from Lawless Roofing in Oregon is called Tokay Heights Cemetery. I can't find who is buried there, does anyone have a site you can post for me?

Too bad you were not on line today Tracy!!!!
I needed your smarts...Lol ::MonkeyRoll::
Anyway...I'm not finding it easy to find out who is buried there.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 30, 2009, 10:13:42 PM
According to this website:
 http://www.oregon.gov/OPRD/HCD/OCHC/docs/Cemetery_List.pdf (http://www.oregon.gov/OPRD/HCD/OCHC/docs/Cemetery_List.pdf)
It is historically Grants Pass IOOF (International Order of Odd Fellows) adjoins with Masonic Cemetery.  Established in 1891, it remains active.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 30, 2009, 11:02:09 PM
According to this website:
 http://www.oregon.gov/OPRD/HCD/OCHC/docs/Cemetery_List.pdf (http://www.oregon.gov/OPRD/HCD/OCHC/docs/Cemetery_List.pdf)
It is historically Grants Pass IOOF (International Order of Odd Fellows) adjoins with Masonic Cemetery.  Established in 1891, it remains active.

Correction IOOF - Independent Order of Odd Fellows


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Brenda in KY on May 30, 2009, 11:03:02 PM
According to this website:
 http://www.oregon.gov/OPRD/HCD/OCHC/docs/Cemetery_List.pdf (http://www.oregon.gov/OPRD/HCD/OCHC/docs/Cemetery_List.pdf)
It is historically Grants Pass IOOF (International Order of Odd Fellows) adjoins with Masonic Cemetery.  Established in 1891, it remains active.

Here is the link for the names of the records index.....looks like there are 679 records...

http://www.interment.net/data/us/or/josephine/masonic/index.htm

Masonic Cemetery
Grants Pass, Josephine County, Oregon

NE F St and Foothill Blvd, Grants Pass, Oregon

Lat: 42° 26' 11"N, Lon: 123° 17' 35"W

Contact: Lloyd Siewig, 541-476-9064
PO Box 553, Merlin OR 97532

Contributed by Jean Boling, May 26, 2007 [jeanboling@charter.net]. Total records = 679.

From I-5 exit 55 or the Grants Pass Parkway, turn west onto Agness. Follow Agness to Foothill Blvd and go south .4 miles. Cemetery is on the right (west side) and is directly next to the Masonic Cemetery.

    The Masonic Cemetery is situated next to the IOOF Cemetery in Grants Pass. The dividing line is the road that goes straight under the Masonic sign. Everything to the left of that is the IOOF cemetery, right is the Masonic Cemetery.

    The IOOF Cemetery was established in 1891. Then half of the land was sold to the Masons for their cemetery in 1898. This cemetery remains active today. Family plot stones are listed in the Miscellaneous area. Information in parentheses does not appear on the marker, but was acquired from research, families, cemetery and funeral home records.

    I visited and transcribed this cemetery in the summer of 2004 from all existing stones.

        - Jean Boling


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 30, 2009, 11:16:50 PM
Here are images of it...
This is across from 501 Lawless Lane - Grants Pass, Oregon
                  IOOF - Tokay Heights Cemetery
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/CEM46826831_117786684788.jpg)
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/CEM46867609_122943176728.jpg)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 30, 2009, 11:37:56 PM
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Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 30, 2009, 11:39:09 PM
Above Snipped:
Lawless Roofing - 501 Lawless Lane
http://www.superpages.com/bp/Grants-Pass-OR/Lawless-Roofing-Heating-Air-L0505524529.htm (http://www.superpages.com/bp/Grants-Pass-OR/Lawless-Roofing-Heating-Air-L0505524529.htm)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 30, 2009, 11:52:06 PM
Here is the list (finally) of those buried at IOOF/TOKAY HEIGHTS CEMETERY
Snipped:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GScid=2168218 (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GScid=2168218)

Grave Search Results
Records 1 to 40 (of 90 total matches)
   Records 41 - 80
Name    Cemetery

Barnes, Albert S.
b. 1837 d. 1922    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Barnes, Connie C.
b. 1846 d. 1918    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Beagle, Martha Ellen "Ella" Cline
b. Mar. 10, 1879 d. Jan. 29, 1935    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Beagle, Owen Hess
b. Dec. 27, 1878 d. Jun. 7, 1924    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Beagle, Owen Jewell
b. Jul. 2, 1910 d. Jul. 16, 1925    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Brandt, Christina Becker
b. 1846 d. 1942    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Calhoun, Ella D
b. Jan. 31, 1870 d. Jan. 12, 1951    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Calhoun, George S
b. Sep. 13, 1867 d. Nov. 19, 1939    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Chapman, William
b. Jul. 16, 1837 d. Nov. 21, 1903    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Cole, Velma Blanche Everton
b. Sep. 22, 1902 d. Feb. 5, 1931    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Cotter, Berniece Careta Vahrenwald
b. Feb. 24, 1917 d. Aug. 4, 1999    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Cotter, Everett Glen
b. Jun. 6, 1915 d. Jan. 17, 1993    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Davis, Isaac M.
b. 1859 d. 1928    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Davis, Lillie Mae
b. 1880 d. 1947    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Davis, Mary J.
b. 1858 d. 1936    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Day, Audrey
b. unknown d. Aug. 13, 1907    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Day, Charlotte Elizabeth
b. Jan. 17, 1915 d. Jul. 19, 1931    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Day, Elizabeth Carter
b. Jan. 22, 1838 d. Apr. 9, 1921    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Day, Irene
b. unknown d. Mar. 3, 1905    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Day, Jessie M. Hubbard
b. Dec. 19, 1873 d. Aug. 13, 1907    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Day, John Elmer
b. Oct. 8, 1867 d. Jan. 3, 1944    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Day, Mary Estella Tanner
b. 1873 d. Feb. 1, 1942    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Day, Noah
b. May 6, 1834 d. May 31, 1913    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Dearinger, Mable Helen Kinney
b. Apr. 13, 1879 d. Jun. 1, 1954    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Everton, Alwilda M Jennings
b. Nov. 12, 1871 d. Mar. 4, 1946    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Everton, Arthur Edwin
b. Jun. 29, 1868 d. Mar. 10, 1946    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Everton, Carrie Eva Robertson
b. Feb. 15, 1871 d. Sep. 24, 1907    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Everton, Eldon L.
b. Oct. 13, 1899 d. Apr. 17, 1964    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Everton, Elmer Ellsworth
b. Nov. 23, 1863 d. Oct. 11, 1921    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Everton, Mary Jane Davis
b. Feb. 3, 1842 d. Apr. 12, 1925    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Everton, Nellie Estella
b. Mar. 13, 1884 d. Apr. 5, 1891    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Everton, Percy Thomas
b. Dec. 5, 1876 d. Apr. 29, 1957    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Everton, Rose Belle Hyckman
b. Jul. 16, 1877 d. Jan. 25, 1916    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Everton, Thomas
b. Jul. 16, 1902 d. Jul. 16, 1902    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Everton, Thomas John
b. Apr. 26, 1840 d. Feb. 27, 1930    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Everton, William Ernest
b. Dec. 10, 1865 d. Jul. 7, 1926    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Fallin, William H
b. Mar. 21, 1863 d. Feb. 13, 1919    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Fallon, Rose
b. 1903 d. 1922    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Goff, Milton Homer
b. Jan. 19, 1875 d. Nov. 28, 1951    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Goff, Sylvina Phelps
b. Jan. 11, 1880 d. Nov. 7, 1952    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA


Higgins, Margaret E.
b. Jun. 12, 1899 d. Sep. 3, 1993    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Hiller, George John
b. Nov. 18, 1868 d. Sep. 30, 1901    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Hubbard, Edwin J.
b. Mar. 26, 1875 d. Mar. 11, 1903    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Hubbard, John Alexander
b. Sep. 14, 1847 d. Apr. 1, 1923    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Hubbard, John Alexander
b. Sep. 14, 1847 d. Apr. 1, 1923    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Hubbard, Mary Jane Annett
b. Oct. 5, 1848 d. Jan. 13, 1923    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Hubbard, Willard
b. Apr. 24, 1902 d. Sep. 24, 1903    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Jennings, Artemicia Cooper
b. Sep. 5, 1834 d. Mar. 24, 1906    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Jennings, Jesse Roland
b. Sep. 7, 1825 d. May 14, 1903    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Johnson, John Hilding
b. 1912 d. 1936    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Jordan, Anna H
b. 1862 d. 1929    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Jordan, Frank W
b. 1859 d. 1948    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Kinney, Henry Woods
b. 1853 d. Jan. 24, 1899    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Lamphear, Myrtle Alice
b. Jan. 25, 1905 d. Jan. 11, 1992    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Light, William J
b. unknown d. Dec. 1, 1936    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Loomis, J E
b. Dec. 1, 1828 d. Aug. 9, 1905    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Meikle, Florence V
b. unknown d. unknown    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Meikle, James B
b. unknown d. unknown    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Murray, John Robert
b. Jan. 15, 1870 d. May 31, 1949    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Murray, Susan Ann McAllister~Hiller
b. Apr. 15, 1872 d. Jan. 11, 1973    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Niemala, Emma Gertrude Goff
b. Oct. 23, 1904 d. Jul. 27, 1979    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Niemala, Ophia Lulu Goff
b. May 24, 1900 d. May 17, 1954    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Norton, Elizabeth
b. unknown d. Jan. 10, 1936    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Norton, Henry A
b. Jun. 22, 1889 d. Apr. 22, 1980    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Norton, Hiram A
b. 1918 d. 1990    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Norton, Judge H D
b. Feb. 17, 1865 d. Feb. 9, 1942    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Orme, Grant
b. 1871 d. 1933    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Orme, Grant L.
b. 1907 d. 1978    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Orme, Mildred C.
b. 1910 d. 1949    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Orme, Millie A.
b. 1883 d. 1975    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Orme, Stephen G.
b. 1945 d. 1976    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Osborne, Margaret Amanda Everton
b. Dec. 30, 1874 d. Jul. 15, 1961    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Price, Palmyra Elizabeth Trumbull Masiker
b. Apr. 11, 1830 d. Jul. 23, 1914    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Price, Samuel
b. 1834 d. 1921    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Robertson, Larkin Anderson
b. Jan. 8, 1852 d. Jul. 20, 1926    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Root, Daniel
b. Apr. 14, 1831 d. Jul. 17, 1896    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Root, Margaret Ann Zeller
b. Dec. 4, 1832 d. Sep. 14, 1914    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Sheafter, Sara A.
b. 1842 d. 1919    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Slover, Lucinda Elmira Todd
b. 1858 d. Jun. 20, 1941    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Swindle, George Robert, Jr
b. Feb. 15, 1917 d. Feb. 21, 2006    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

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 Records 1 - 40    Records 81 - 90
   
 Niemala, Emma Gertrude Goff
b. Oct. 23, 1904 d. Jul. 27, 1979    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Niemala, Ophia Lulu Goff
b. May 24, 1900 d. May 17, 1954    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Norton, Elizabeth
b. unknown d. Jan. 10, 1936    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Norton, Henry A
b. Jun. 22, 1889 d. Apr. 22, 1980    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Norton, Hiram A
b. 1918 d. 1990    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Norton, Judge H D
b. Feb. 17, 1865 d. Feb. 9, 1942    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Orme, Grant
b. 1871 d. 1933    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Orme, Grant L.
b. 1907 d. 1978    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Orme, Mildred C.
b. 1910 d. 1949    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Orme, Millie A.
b. 1883 d. 1975    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Orme, Stephen G.
b. 1945 d. 1976    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Osborne, Margaret Amanda Everton
b. Dec. 30, 1874 d. Jul. 15, 1961    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Price, Palmyra Elizabeth Trumbull Masiker
b. Apr. 11, 1830 d. Jul. 23, 1914    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Price, Samuel
b. 1834 d. 1921    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Robertson, Larkin Anderson
b. Jan. 8, 1852 d. Jul. 20, 1926    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Root, Daniel
b. Apr. 14, 1831 d. Jul. 17, 1896    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Root, Margaret Ann Zeller
b. Dec. 4, 1832 d. Sep. 14, 1914    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Sheafter, Sara A.
b. 1842 d. 1919    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Slover, Lucinda Elmira Todd
b. 1858 d. Jun. 20, 1941    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA

Swindle, George Robert, Jr
b. Feb. 15, 1917 d. Feb. 21, 2006    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA


Thomas, George W.
b. 1855 d. 1940    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA
Thomas, Marion G.
b. 1910 d. 1913    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA
Thomas, Nellie A.
b. 1872 d. 1948    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA
Turnbow, J. M.
b. Dec. 7, 1858 d. Aug. 20, 1932    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA
Twiehaus, Elrena
b. Nov. 13, 1872 d. Aug. 15, 1958    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA
Twiehaus, McDonald
b. May 1, 1866 d. Aug. 27, 1942    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA
Vahrenwald, Elsie Eldora Jackson
b. May 10, 1893 d. Jan. 10, 1993    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA
Vahrenwald, Emil Frederick
b. Dec. 10, 1893 d. Sep. 26, 1965    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA
Vahrenwald, Stearl W.
b. Mar. 19, 1915 d. Jan. 22, 1943    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA
Wiseman, Carlotta Kinney
b. May 13, 1903 d. May 29, 1987    IOOF Cemetery
Grants Pass
Josephine County
Oregon, USA
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 Records 41 - 80    
   


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 31, 2009, 12:11:29 AM
Snipped:
http://www.whitepages.com/16176/track/10215/search/Replay?search_id=62301301915214756526&lower=1&more_info=1 (http://www.whitepages.com/16176/track/10215/search/Replay?search_id=62301301915214756526&lower=1&more_info=1)

Cheryl Bacon

work

501 Lawless Ln
Grants Pass, OR 97526-7101
(541) 479-1839
Type: Land Line
Provider: Qwest Corporation
Location: Grants Pass, OR

Job title: Owner
Company: Lawless Roofing


So, Pastor Lane is the "President" and an "Owner" is named Cheryl...
Pastor Lawless has a mysterious associate or roommate by the name of Cheryl...


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 31, 2009, 12:14:34 AM
Snipped:
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Robert Burns

501 Lawless Ln
Grants Pass, OR 97526-7101
(541) 479-1839
Type: Land Line
Provider: Qwest Corporation
Location: Grants Pass, OR

Job title: Vice President
Company: Lawless Roofing



Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 31, 2009, 12:16:40 AM
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Donald Lawless

work

501 Lawless Ln
Grants Pass, OR 97526-7101

(541) 479-1839
Type: Land Line
Provider: Qwest Corporation
Location: Grants Pass, OR
Due to number portability, some numbers have been transferred to a new service provider.

Job title: Treasurer
Company: Lawless Roofing



Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Sister on May 31, 2009, 12:27:23 AM
On Blink's site at comment #419 you will find photo of Robert, Richard and CLL, at comment #414 you will see a photo of a Lane Lawless, and at comment #340 you will see a mention of Landon Lawless.

Sister - Can you be so kind as to refresh my memory on the date of the marriage of Gary D Lawless and Marilyn Short Tieken Lawless Gomes? I recall they divorced a month later. I am trying to figure out on the Texas/Ok/KS if the Gary D Lawless, deceased 1975 near DeBerry, is our guy. His Mom is a Betty (not sure) Lawless. He seems to potentially have some sort of infirmery from 1968- till his death in 1975.
B

Blink -Marylin Elizabeth Tieken/Lawless/Short/Gomes were married June 6, 1968 -- after their sons were born.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Blink34 on May 31, 2009, 08:31:20 AM
Does anyone know the name of the Cemetery on Lawless Lane in Grants Pass Oregon?
I'd like to see who is buried there?
Any Monkey?
  Lm

No, but It's on the main thread, I want to say Tracygirl posted it?
(embarassing admission but I think I posted a link to the surrounding cemetaries as well, :()
B


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Blink34 on May 31, 2009, 08:37:17 AM
On Blink's site at comment #419 you will find photo of Robert, Richard and CLL, at comment #414 you will see a photo of a Lane Lawless, and at comment #340 you will see a mention of Landon Lawless.

Sister - Can you be so kind as to refresh my memory on the date of the marriage of Gary D Lawless and Marilyn Short Tieken Lawless Gomes? I recall they divorced a month later. I am trying to figure out on the Texas/Ok/KS if the Gary D Lawless, deceased 1975 near DeBerry, is our guy. His Mom is a Betty (not sure) Lawless. He seems to potentially have some sort of infirmery from 1968- till his death in 1975.
B

Blink -Marylin Elizabeth Tieken/Lawless/Short/Gomes were married June 6, 1968 -- after their sons were born.

Sister, thank you, that's a perfect fit then for Love's Gary D Lawless, Sr, then, no?
TY card says he was in TX for the last 7 years, dies in 1975. In 1968 he marries Tieken for a month. He moves to Texas under the care of Dr. Hill, for what?
B


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Sister on May 31, 2009, 11:28:49 AM
Blink, a guess would just be that as to what ailed him.  However, I do know if a person suffers from a disability which does not permit them to take care of their own affairs, the Social Security Disability check are send to someone "for the benefit of".


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 31, 2009, 12:52:00 PM
On Blink's site at comment #419 you will find photo of Robert, Richard and CLL, at comment #414 you will see a photo of a Lane Lawless, and at comment #340 you will see a mention of Landon Lawless.

Sister - Can you be so kind as to refresh my memory on the date of the marriage of Gary D Lawless and Marilyn Short Tieken Lawless Gomes? I recall they divorced a month later. I am trying to figure out on the Texas/Ok/KS if the Gary D Lawless, deceased 1975 near DeBerry, is our guy. His Mom is a Betty (not sure) Lawless. He seems to potentially have some sort of infirmery from 1968- till his death in 1975.
B

Blink -Marylin Elizabeth Tieken/Lawless/Short/Gomes were married June 6, 1968 -- after their sons were born.

Sister, thank you, that's a perfect fit then for Love's Gary D Lawless, Sr, then, no?
TY card says he was in TX for the last 7 years, dies in 1975. In 1968 he marries Tieken for a month. He moves to Texas under the care of Dr. Hill, for what?
B

blink, I am not sure what you are saying.  the gary dee lawless in texas is way too young to be the cali missing gary d lawless.  missing gary d lawless, fathr of timothy etc was born about 1933.  the gary dee lawless in texas was born long after that; is young enought o be a son of missing gary dee lawless.  but gary dee lawless' father is dee h lawless. 

is there another gary lawless in texas I am missing? 

gee everytime I type the screen is jumping all up and down.  sorry if there are typos in here.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on May 31, 2009, 01:45:40 PM
The cemetery across the small road from Lawless Roofing in Oregon is called Tokay Heights Cemetery. I can't find who is buried there, does anyone have a site you can post for me?

Too bad you were not on line today Tracy!!!!
I needed your smarts...Lol ::MonkeyRoll::
Anyway...I'm not finding it easy to find out who is buried there.
Oh gosh you do not need my smarts! You did awesome! I gave up at Tokay heights cemetary.



Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on May 31, 2009, 01:48:32 PM
Here are images of it...
This is across from 501 Lawless Lane - Grants Pass, Oregon
                  IOOF - Tokay Heights Cemetery
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/CEM46826831_117786684788.jpg)
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/CEM46867609_122943176728.jpg)

Can you possibly get a front view pic of the roofing company across the way?


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 31, 2009, 04:16:53 PM
501 Lawless Lane
GrantsPass Oregon
Map Images
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/v39hlenx20647sy48441z17sGalile.jpg)


(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/v39hlenx20646sy48442z17sGali.jpg)


Hi Tracy! ::MonkeyWink::
This was the best I could do...
But I wouldn't be surprised if some other monkey can get a better screen shot...
  Lm


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: love4ever on May 31, 2009, 04:22:32 PM
Can someone check this out, or if it is worth checking into..
I have to work on my college studies..lol

“An Evening of Chimney Farm Stories”
Gary Lawless, Chimney Farm resident caretaker-I think it might just be a historical mark?,
poet, and Gulf of Maine Bookstore owner will
lead this evening.

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:0l60LBs2HcwJ:www.nobleborohistoricalsociety.org/NHSProgram2005-2006.pdf+Gary+Lawless,+Chimney+Farm+resident+caretaker&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a (http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:0l60LBs2HcwJ:www.nobleborohistoricalsociety.org/NHSProgram2005-2006.pdf+Gary+Lawless,+Chimney+Farm+resident+caretaker&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a)



I know this is just stuff, but i want to put it out there,
you never know what you might find.


Easement donor and former Maine Poet Laureate, Kate Barnes, has negotiated an easement document with DLWA which encourages actual farming on “Chimney Farm.”  Working with caretakers Gary Lawless and Beth Leonard, their donkeys Jenny and Emmy Lou and neighbor Henry Oliver,  DLWA has done field reclamation work (“brushing”) in 2005 and 2007. 

Efforts to save Chimney Farm from development began in 1997 and reached a resting point late in 2007 with all but 6½ acres preserved in perpetuity.  Easement protection of two parcels of field with views to the lake was purchased for $225,000, thanks to some very dedicated fundraising and over 180 individual cash donations.  The remaining 6½ acres with the farmstead buildings, is owned by the Beston/Coatsworth family and remains unprotected.  However, DLWA has a right of first refusal should the property come on the market.

Sara and Alexander Buck, Sr. bought the Chimney Farm property on the west side of the road.  They donated an easement on the field and cemetery (and had a lovely replacement picket fence built for the cemetery); and in December, 2007 donated an easement on the remaining woodland between the road and Deep Cove.  Henry Oliver manages the 60+ Acre woodlot as a “working forest.”



http://www.dlwa.org/conservancy.html (http://www.dlwa.org/conservancy.html)


Just sayin..lol


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 31, 2009, 04:28:38 PM
Here are a few more....
Snipped:
http://maps.google.com/maps?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hl=en&q=501%20Lawless%20Lane%2C%20Grants%20Pass%20OR&tab=il (http://maps.google.com/maps?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hl=en&q=501%20Lawless%20Lane%2C%20Grants%20Pass%20OR&tab=il)

     IOOF - TOKAY HEIGHTS CEMETERY
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/IOOF.jpg)

     Lawless Roofing - 501 Lawless Lane
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/501LawlessLAne.jpg)

        Lawless Roofing
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/Lawlessroofing.jpg)

            Lawless Roofing
'(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/lawlessroof.jpg)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 31, 2009, 04:31:36 PM
Can someone check this out, or if it is worth checking into..
I have to work on my college studies..lol

“An Evening of Chimney Farm Stories”
Gary Lawless, Chimney Farm resident caretaker-I think it might just be a historical mark?,
poet, and Gulf of Maine Bookstore owner will
lead this evening.

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:0l60LBs2HcwJ:www.nobleborohistoricalsociety.org/NHSProgram2005-2006.pdf+Gary+Lawless,+Chimney+Farm+resident+caretaker&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a (http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:0l60LBs2HcwJ:www.nobleborohistoricalsociety.org/NHSProgram2005-2006.pdf+Gary+Lawless,+Chimney+Farm+resident+caretaker&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a)



I know this is just stuff, but i want to put it out there,
you never know what you might find.


Easement donor and former Maine Poet Laureate, Kate Barnes, has negotiated an easement document with DLWA which encourages actual farming on “Chimney Farm.”  Working with caretakers Gary Lawless and Beth Leonard, their donkeys Jenny and Emmy Lou and neighbor Henry Oliver,  DLWA has done field reclamation work (“brushing”) in 2005 and 2007. 

Efforts to save Chimney Farm from development began in 1997 and reached a resting point late in 2007 with all but 6½ acres preserved in perpetuity.  Easement protection of two parcels of field with views to the lake was purchased for $225,000, thanks to some very dedicated fundraising and over 180 individual cash donations.  The remaining 6½ acres with the farmstead buildings, is owned by the Beston/Coatsworth family and remains unprotected.  However, DLWA has a right of first refusal should the property come on the market.

Sara and Alexander Buck, Sr. bought the Chimney Farm property on the west side of the road.  They donated an easement on the field and cemetery (and had a lovely replacement picket fence built for the cemetery); and in December, 2007 donated an easement on the remaining woodland between the road and Deep Cove.  Henry Oliver manages the 60+ Acre woodlot as a “working forest.”


http://www.dlwa.org/conservancy.html (http://www.dlwa.org/conservancy.html)

Just sayin..lol

Ahh Yes ::MonkeyRoll::
Gary the Poet Lawless..Lol
There is a good deal about him in the Timothy Lawless thread!
In fact, on the last page I referred to him and posted his pic....
Not completely sure about him.
 Lm


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 31, 2009, 04:32:57 PM
Hmmm
Well this is curious Monkeys...
I would imagine this is a different Melissa Lawless but I did notice that the funeral services were for a Pastor in Maine which is where Gary the Poet Lawless is...
This is the church he is affiliated with
[imghttp://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/church_frontview.jpg][/img]

Snipped:
http://www.123people.com/ext/frm?ti=person%20finder&search_term=melissa%20lawless&search_country=US&st=person%20finder&target_url=http%3A%2F%2Flrd.yahooapis.com%2F_ylc%3DX3oDMTVnNzlwb2E1BF9TAzIwMjMxNTI3MDIEYXBwaWQDc1k3Wlo2clYzNEhSZm5ZdGVmcmkzRUx4VG5makpERG5QOWVKV1NGSkJHcTJ1V1dFa0xVdm5IYnNBeUNyVkd5Y2REVElUX2tlBGNsaWVudANib3NzBHNlcnZpY2UDQk9TUwRzbGsDdGl0bGUEc3JjcHZpZANfLnVIejJLSWNycXpENFhIU29ibUYuTXJXODV4NDBvYzRJTUFEZ0sw%2FSIG%3D12puaiiv7%2F**http%253A%2F%2Fwww.pnne2.org%2FDocuments%2FMinutes%2FPresbytery%252520Minutes%252520W%25252020090314.pdf&section=document&wrt_id=257 (http://www.123people.com/ext/frm?ti=person%20finder&search_term=melissa%20lawless&search_country=US&st=person%20finder&target_url=http%3A%2F%2Flrd.yahooapis.com%2F_ylc%3DX3oDMTVnNzlwb2E1BF9TAzIwMjMxNTI3MDIEYXBwaWQDc1k3Wlo2clYzNEhSZm5ZdGVmcmkzRUx4VG5makpERG5QOWVKV1NGSkJHcTJ1V1dFa0xVdm5IYnNBeUNyVkd5Y2REVElUX2tlBGNsaWVudANib3NzBHNlcnZpY2UDQk9TUwRzbGsDdGl0bGUEc3JjcHZpZANfLnVIejJLSWNycXpENFhIU29ibUYuTXJXODV4NDBvYzRJTUFEZ0sw%2FSIG%3D12puaiiv7%2F**http%253A%2F%2Fwww.pnne2.org%2FDocuments%2FMinutes%2FPresbytery%252520Minutes%252520W%25252020090314.pdf&section=document&wrt_id=257)

Melissa Lawless appeared before the committee to begin her training as a Commissioned Lay Pastor, having previously been approved by the session of the Antrim  Presbyterian Church.

Our current roster is as follows:
Candidates: Beth Richeson
Inquirers: Cynthia Kekung
CLP trainees: Claire Austin
Matthew Long
Ricky Rivera
Melissa Lawless


Here was something that is probably not relevant but I included it all the same....


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 31, 2009, 04:37:40 PM
Snipped from the Timothy Lawless Thread:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4964.760 (http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4964.760)

DO we know how many of the Lawless Man connections on here are Reverends/ Pastors, etc?

Happy Saturday, I am fixing to take off in a bit and my head hurts :)
B

Hey Hey Monkeys!!!! TGIF ::MonkeyDance::
Need help with research?
 LM

Can always use help Lone!

Snipped:
http://www.uuchurchsacobiddeford.com/garylawless.html (http://www.uuchurchsacobiddeford.com/garylawless.html)
Attached is a pic of Gary Lawless - Poet from Seattle.  He is somehow connected to the Wenatchee/Brewster clan.  Can you chase this guy down.  anything will help.

(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/church_frontview.jpg)
Sponsored by the Unitarian Universalist Church of Saco and Biddeford
60 School Street, Saco, ME 04072 (directions)

                                  Meet the Poet
                                  Gary Lawless

(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/newshound4ever/GaryLawless.jpg)

Lawless is co-owner of Gulf of Maine Books an independent bookstore in Brunswick. He resides at Chimney Farm in Nobleboro.
Blink
This is the church that sponsors Gary the poet.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 31, 2009, 04:58:54 PM
This is a kind of an interesting, quick little bit of IOOF symbols...

http://www.youtube.com/v/P_3gL5bZMgE
http://www.youtube.com/v/vOq-1NWFriA
circa 1910 banner featuring the symbols of the International Order of Odd Fellows


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: love4ever on May 31, 2009, 05:55:42 PM
There is something funny about gary lawless the poet.
Don't quite know what it is yet.

And there was a cemetary mentioned long ago in the
timothy lawless thread that was also in relation to the
IOOF. I remember reading about it through research.

You are funny LM..lol


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Brenda in KY on May 31, 2009, 06:14:49 PM
Blink, a guess would just be that as to what ailed him.  However, I do know if a person suffers from a disability which does not permit them to take care of their own affairs, the Social Security Disability check are send to someone "for the benefit of".

I think this might be the Gary D. Lawless you all are talking about.  He had an accident in his pickup truck and was paralyzed.  Here's the first section of the newspaper article about it.....it is continued on another page on the newspaper.  And here's the link also....

http://bwilkins.panola.edu/Library/PanolaWatchman/1983/06-05-83.pdf




 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on May 31, 2009, 06:47:43 PM
Blink, a guess would just be that as to what ailed him.  However, I do know if a person suffers from a disability which does not permit them to take care of their own affairs, the Social Security Disability check are send to someone "for the benefit of".

I think this might be the Gary D. Lawless you all are talking about.  He had an accident in his pickup truck and was paralyzed.  Here's the first section of the newspaper article about it.....it is continued on another page on the newspaper.  And here's the link also....

http://bwilkins.panola.edu/Library/PanolaWatchman/1983/06-05-83.pdf




 

The article states he is 34 in June 1984 and his mother is Betty. Does that fit? Sorry to much information for me to retain


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on May 31, 2009, 07:07:05 PM
I had a thought I wanted to share. It most likely is absolutely nothing, There is a business associated with a person in the lawless line associated with lawless roofing in Grants pass, the same city that MH's mother is said to have taken MH daughter. It is Saddle Mountain Cattle company. MH  is  said she was familiar with the dairy in which the suitcase was found, but she could have meant she is familiar with a dairy. There are several dairy farms in Grants pass Oregon. There is a Saddle Mountain Dairy in AZ, but there is a Saddle Mountain in Oregon.

Have we looked into the company  Saddle  Mountain Cattle company?


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 31, 2009, 07:25:00 PM
I had a thought I wanted to share. It most likely is absolutely nothing, There is a business associated with a person in the lawless line associated with lawless roofing in Grants pass, the same city that MH's mother is said to have taken MH daughter. It is Saddle Mountain Cattle company. MH  is  said she was familiar with the dairy in which the suitcase was found, but she could have meant she is familiar with a dairy. There are several dairy farms in Grants pass Oregon. There is a Saddle Mountain Dairy in AZ, but there is a Saddle Mountain in Oregon.

Have we looked into the company  Saddle  Mountain Cattle company?

This is what I found Tracy...


 ::MonkeyConfused::
Remember back when we talked about Saddle Mountain Cattle company? Was this company supposed to be in TX? It is a business which kept coming up with Lawless roofing

Snipped:
http://www.veromi.net/Summary.asp (http://www.veromi.net/Summary.asp)    

 LAWLESS,�DONALD�T�in�GRANTS PASS,�OR

1�Match�Found�(100 max.)
�    Name/AKAs    Phone    Address    City, State    Possible Relatives    �
1.    LAWLESS,�DONALD�THOMAS (Age 54)

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

LAWLESS ROOFING, INC
SADDLE MOUNTAIN CATTLE COMPANY
   Available(3)    Available    MONMOUTH,�OR
KLAMATH FALLS,�OR
GRANTS PASS,�OR
DALLAS,�OR
CHEMULT,�OR
AGNESS,�OR    

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS,�LEWIS�EDWIN�(Age�77)
LAWLESS,�MARLENE�L�(Age�52)
LAWLESS,�BARBARA�MAE�(Age�73)
LAWLESS,�JESSICA�LOUISE�(Age�32)
LAWLESS,�JOSEPH�LEWIS�(Age�30)
LAWLESS,�JOE�L�(Age�30)
LAWLESS,�LENE
LAWLESS,�IS�E
LAWLESS,�JOSEPH�L

Possible Roommates / Associates:

LAWLESS,�DON�T
BACON,�CHERYL
   View Details

*Notice HOW many family members have initial L as a middle name???
Just like:
Clifford L Lawless
Connie L Lawless

   


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on May 31, 2009, 07:35:45 PM
I'll be back Monkeys!!!...
My son is in a recital this evening! ::MonkeyDance::
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t233/bipolarbettie/typingmonkey.jpg)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on May 31, 2009, 07:41:31 PM
I'll be back Monkeys!!!...
My son is in a recital this evening! ::MonkeyDance::
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t233/bipolarbettie/typingmonkey.jpg)

Break a leg to Lone's son! ::MonkeyDance::

 BTW, I need to take a break. I read your son was having a rectal this evening! Big difference I would say! ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 31, 2009, 08:30:48 PM
I believe this could be thomas Mat lawless who was born may 19, 1899.  he is the father of everett lawless who is listed up in grants pass with Lawless roofing.

thomas mat lawless married grace marie miranda mitchell. 

some of their children are

earl n lawless
everett thomas lawless
ruby verdetta lawless

they all have the mother's mitchell maiden name on the birth records.

Cll's line is coming out of nebraska also.


1900 United States Federal Census
about Thomas M Lawless
Name: Thomas M Lawless
Home in 1900: Emerson, Harlan, Nebraska  
Age: 1
Birth Date: May 1899
Birthplace: Nebraska
Race: White
Ethnicity: American 
Gender: Male 
Relationship to head-of-house: Son
Father's Name: Mike
Father's Birthplace: Minnesota 
Mother's Name: Julia
Mother's Birthplace: New York 
Marital Status: Single 
Residence : Oxford Village, Harlan, Nebraska
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Mike Lawless 39 
Julia Lawless 27 
James M Lawless 5 
Maggie M Lawless 3 
Thomas M Lawless 1 
 
 



Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 31, 2009, 09:01:02 PM
can anyone find an obit or cemetery recorde for thomas mat lawless, or anything at all on him.

these are the people we are looking for connected to the grants pass lawless line

Report
Name   Birth date   Death date
Ada Elizabeth "Addie" Stevens   November 09, 1865   December 21, 1940
Dean Arthur Spencer   July 26, 1896   December 31, 1951
Earl N Lawless   June 09, 1923   February 13, 1974
Everett Thomas Lawless   January 07, 1926   
Gertrude Mitchell   Abt. 1866   
Grace Marie Miranda Mitchell   April 01, 1904   July 26, 1994
Jennie Mitchell   Abt. 1857   
Jessie Mitchell   Abt. 1868   
John M Mitchell   June 07, 1894   June 07, 1894
John Newton Mitchell   February 07, 1856   April 19, 1950
John R Murphy   Abt. 1925   
Kathleen A Kennedy      
Mark T Lawless   July 03, 1950   August 08, 1993
Mary Ann Babbitt   July 11, 1831   August 23, 1899
Mary M Unknown      
Mary Mitchell   Abt. 1862   
Minnie Pearl Mitchell   November 13, 1895   March 21, 1961
Olive Mitchell   Abt. 1854   
Ora "Ovie" Franklin Mitchell   June 07, 1894   December 25, 1991
Ruby Verdetta Lawless   February 23, 1928   September 29, 1981
Thomas Mat Lawless   May 19, 1899   January 23, 1979
unknown      
William Mitchell   Abt. 1831   


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 31, 2009, 09:03:30 PM
these are also part of that family


Report
Name   Birth date   Death date
Barbara Mae Unknown      
Donald Thomas Lawless      
Jessica Louise Lawless      
Joseph Lewis Lawless      
Lewis Edwin Lawless      
Marlene L Unknown      
   


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 31, 2009, 09:05:06 PM
here is how some of them are connected.  thomas mat lawless is the oldest of this group, he married grace marie miranda mitchell

Kinship of Thomas Mat Lawless
Name   Relationship with Thomas Lawless   Civil   Canon
Babbitt, Mary Ann   Grandmother of the wife      
Kennedy, Kathleen A   Wife of the grandson      
Lawless, Earl N   Son   I   1
Lawless, Everett Thomas   Son   I   1
Lawless, Mark T   Grandson   II   2
Lawless, Ruby Verdetta   Daughter   I   1
Lawless, Thomas Mat   Self      0
Mitchell, Gertrude   Aunt of the wife      
Mitchell, Grace Marie Miranda   Wife      
Mitchell, Jennie   Aunt of the wife      
Mitchell, Jessie   Aunt/uncle of the wife      
Mitchell, John M   Brother-in-law      
Mitchell, John Newton   Father-in-law      
Mitchell, Mary   Aunt of the wife      
Mitchell, Minnie Pearl   Sister-in-law      
Mitchell, Olive   Aunt of the wife      
Mitchell, Ora "Ovie" Franklin   Brother-in-law      
Mitchell, William   Grandfather of the wife      
Murphy, John R   Son-in-law      
Stevens, Ada Elizabeth "Addie"   Mother-in-law      
unknown   Father   I   1
Unknown, Mary M   Daughter-in-law      


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 31, 2009, 09:10:31 PM
here is what I have so far


Descendants of Thomas Mat Lawless


Generation No. 1

1.  THOMAS MAT2 LAWLESS  (UNKNOWN1) was born May 19, 1899, and died January 23, 1979 in Grants Pass, Oregon, USA.  He married GRACE MARIE MIRANDA MITCHELL, daughter of JOHN MITCHELL and ADA STEVENS.  She was born April 01, 1904 in Dodge City, Ford, Kansas, and died July 26, 1994 in Grants Pass, Josephine, Oregon, USA.
   
Children of THOMAS LAWLESS and GRACE MITCHELL are:
2.   i.   EARL N3 LAWLESS, b. June 09, 1923, Colorado, USA; d. February 13, 1974, Santa Clara, California, USA.
   ii.   EVERETT THOMAS LAWLESS, b. January 07, 1926, Fresno, California, USA.
   iii.   RUBY VERDETTA LAWLESS, b. February 23, 1928, Grants Pass, Oregon, USA; d. September 29, 1981, Lincoln, Placer, California, USA; m. JOHN R MURPHY, March 13, 1960, Sacramento, California, USA; b. Abt. 1925.

Marriage Notes for RUBY LAWLESS and JOHN MURPHY:
California Marriage Index, 1960-1985
about Ruby V Lawless
Name: Ruby V Lawless
Age: 32 
Est. Birth: abt 1928 
Spouse Name: John R Murphy
Spouse Age: 35 
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1925 
Date: 13 Mar 1960
Location: Sacramento 
 



Generation No. 2

2.  EARL N3 LAWLESS (THOMAS MAT2, UNKNOWN1) was born June 09, 1923 in Colorado, USA, and died February 13, 1974 in Santa Clara, California, USA.  He married MARY M UNKNOWN. 
   
Child of EARL LAWLESS and MARY UNKNOWN is:
   i.   MARK T4 LAWLESS, b. July 03, 1950; d. August 08, 1993, California, USA; m. KATHLEEN A KENNEDY.




Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 31, 2009, 09:11:55 PM
now everett shares some addresses with donald t lawless and lewis lawless, but I can't hook them up yet.  but they have to be the same family.  I just don't know how they fit yet


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 31, 2009, 09:17:06 PM
the children of thomas Mat Lawless and grace marie miranda mitchell

of the 3 children I have so far (above posts)
they were born in colorado, then fresno california, then grants pass oregon.

everett lawless the son was born in fresno. 

now also, dorothy daphne doyle who is the mother of ronald sutton lawless in los angeles is also born in colorado.

I am trying to figure out if these all connect.  but for now just concentrating on getting the grants pass names all tied together how they fit with one another


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 31, 2009, 10:58:58 PM
1201 L GRANTS PASS, OR



 GLENDALE, OR
QUITMAN, TX
GRANTS PASS, OR
WOLF CREEK, OR

Possible Relatives:

DEUSON, GENE
DEUSON, VIKKI R (Age 40)
DEUSON, KIMBERLEE KAY (Age 37)
DEUSON, IRVING EUGENE (Age 65)



 CHINO, CA
GRANTS PASS, OR
SAINT PAUL, MN
MARYSVILLE, CA

Possible Relatives:

RAY, CHARLIE STEPHEN (Age 60)
SNYDER, STEPHEN (Age 59)
RAY, PAULA LYNN (Age 55)
SKILES, PETER (Age 32)
REIDELL, THOMAS A (Age 56)
ADAMS, LORRINA KAY (Age 46)
RAY, STEPHEN (Age 41)
REIDELL, DEBBIE
RAY, ALICIA ANNE (Age 32)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

LEISHMAN, DEBORAH ANNE (Age 55)
LEISHAM, DEBORAH A (Age 55)




 PACIFICA, CA
ORINDA, CA
FRESNO, CA
GRANTS PASS, OR
SUNNYVALE, CA
ROGUE RIVER, OR
ASHLAND, OR
LOS GATOS, CA
OAKLAND, CA

Possible Relatives:

HALL, JOHN ANDREW (Age 90)
HALL, JOHN LOY (Age 37)
WELLS, VICKI S (Age 41)
HALL, JOYCE L (Age 60)
HALL, RONALD L (Age 66)
BAKER, JOHN RAYMOND (Age 59)
MENDENHALL, ERIK ALLEN (Age 33)
HALL, R L
BAKER, JOEL B

Possible Roommates / Associates:

SMITH, VERNON R (Age 52)



SACRAMENTO, CA
REDDING, CA

GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

ARMENTA, DEBRA JOY (Age 54)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

WOLBER, DARWIN LEE (Age 66)
MOORE, ELAINE MARIE (Age 73)
MOORE, LESTER HARLEY (Age 77)
KING, DAVID H (Age 39)
MOORE, JEEFREY ELLIS (Age 53)



 GOLD HILL, OR
GRANTS PASS, OR
FORT BRAGG, NC
SPRING LAKE, NC
COLORADO SPRINGS, CO
RED SPRINGS, NC
WHITE CITY, OR
EUGENE, OR

Possible Relatives:

KNIFONG, TARA C
KNIFONG, COLLEEN (Age 48)
KNIFONG, STEPHANIE GAY (Age 36)
KNIFONG, ANNA M (Age 39)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

CENTENO, RAUL HUMBERTO (Age 40)
CENTENO, ENEIDA L (Age 40)
FAIN, CHRISTOPHER R (Age 51)
FAIN, VALERIE LYNN (Age 47)
GOOCH, JEFFERY ALLAN (Age 36)
RIVERA, ALEJANDRO MANUEL (Age 35)
SMITH, KRISTOPHER DANIEL (Age 33)



 GRANTS PASS, OR
MEDFORD, OR

 Possible Relatives:

WOLBER, JON DARWIN (Age 38)
PITTSLEY, TERESA LEE (Age 40)
WOLBER, JANICE OUIDA (Age 64)
WOLBER, TRUST

Possible Roommates / Associates:

REEL, JOY FAYE (Age 75)
PITTSLEY, SEAN C (Age 41)
MOORE, LESTER HARLEY (Age 77)
MOORE, ELAINE MARIE (Age 73)
KING, DAVID H (Age 39)
MOORE, JEEFREY ELLIS (Age 53)



 CENTRAL POINT, OR
OLYMPIA, WA
GRANTS PASS, OR
MEDFORD, OR

Possible Relatives:

WHITE, PAUL TIMOTHY (Age 46)
WHITE, LAURA GRACEPETERSON (Age 46)
KINGSLIEN, RONALD WILLIAM (Age 46)
WILDEY, MACHEAL KIMBERLY (Age 45)
FURLANO, JERRY LYNN (Age 67)
FURLANO, BOBBY EARLINE (Age 62)
FURIANO, BOBBIE E
FURLANO, LARRY
JENSON, VICTORIA DEANN (Age 44)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

MITCHELL, JAMES M (Age 105)
MITCHELL, RUBY H (Age 92)

WILDEY, JOHN ALLEN (Age 45)
WILDEY, MACHEAL KIMBERLY (Age 45)


 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

SELLS, LEANN GAIL (Age 35)
LAWLESS, BEVERLY JEAN (Age 66)
LAWLESS, LORI LYNN (Age 39)
LAWLESS, GRACE M (Age 105) grace mitchell wife of thomas mat lawless
LAWLESS, LORI L (Age 39)
LAWLESS, MARLENE wife of donald
LAWLESS, DONALD donald thomas lawless



 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, EVERETT THOMAS (Age 83) this age is wrong son of thomas mat Lawless & grace mitchell
LAWLESS, HAROLD MICHAEL (Age 68) son of thomas mat Lawless & grace mitchell
LAWLESS, EVA T (Age 87)
LAWLESS, LORI L (Age 39)
LAWLESS, MARLENE wife of donald
LAWLESS, DONALD  donald thomas lawless



 GRANTS PASS, OR

 Possible Relatives:

GRUBER ODUANE, KAREN (Age 65)
ODUANE, DORALEE (Age 45)
ODUANE, JAMES IRVIN (Age 62)
DUANE, RORY O
ODUANE, ROBERT JAMES (Age 27)
ODUANE, RORY ALLEN (Age 45)
DUANE, VICKIE L (Age 41)
DUANEI, JAMES I (Age 62)
DUANE, JAMES O (Age 62)



 BURIEN, WA
GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

MOORE, LESTER HARLEY (Age 77)
MOORE, JEEFREY ELLIS (Age 53)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

REEL, JOY FAYE (Age 75)
WOLBER, DARWIN LEE (Age 66)
KING, DAVID H (Age 39)



 BURIEN, WA
SEAHURST, WA
GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

MOORE, ELAINE MARIE (Age 73)
MOORE, JEEFREY ELLIS (Age 53)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

REEL, JOY FAYE (Age 75)
WOLBER, DARWIN LEE (Age 66)
KING, DAVID H (Age 39)



 GRANTS PASS, OR
QUITMAN, TX

Possible Relatives:

DEUSON, GENE
DEUSON, JANICE RHEA (Age 60)
DEUSON, VIKKI R (Age 40)
DEUSON, IRVING EUGENE (Age 65)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

CALLAHAN BAINUM, CAREL (Age 62)
BAINUM, CAREL C (Age 62)



 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

KNIFONG, STEVEN GRANT (Age 39)



 GRANTS PASS, OR
CENTRAL POINT, OR
MEDFORD, OR

Possible Relatives:

KINGSLIEN, VICTORIA DEANN (Age 44)
WILDEY, MACHEAL KIMBERLY (Age 45)
SWEARINGEN, WINIFRED M (Age 36)
JENSON, STEVEN GLENN (Age 47)




 CRESWELL, OR
SPRINGFIELD, OR
EUGENE, OR
GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

REEL, KERTHEL BEVERLY (Age 83)
REEL, KATIE BEVERLY
REEL, KERTHEL E (Age 85)




 GRANTS PASS, OR
MEDFORD, OR
BEND, OR
ESTACADA, OR

Possible Relatives:

MOORE, PEGGY PATRICIA (Age 54)
LEAVENS, DEBRA JEAN (Age 52)
MOORE, LESTER HARLEY (Age 77)
MOORE, DEBBY J
MOORE, ELAINE MARIE (Age 73)
MOORE, JOSHUA REUBEN (Age 33)
MOORE, Y P

Possible Roommates / Associates:

GILLILAND, RICHARD LEE (Age 55)
REEL, JOY FAYE (Age 75)
BRADFIELD, JAMES J (Age 33)
WOLBER, DARWIN LEE (Age 66)
BENNETT, CAROLYN JEAN (Age 59)
LEAVENS, JOHN DARRELL (Age 59)
GILLILAND, RENE L (Age 29)
KING, DAVID H (Age 39)




 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

ODUANE, BARBARA GRACE (Age 66)
ODUANE, JAMES IRVIN (Age 62)
DUANEI, JAMES I (Age 62)
ODUANE, JAMES I (Age 62)




 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

GRUBERODUANE, KAREN (Age 65)
ODUANE, BARBARA GRACE (Age 66)
DUANE, VICKIE L (Age 41)
ODUANE, RONNIE M (Age 53)
ODUANE, L

Possible Roommates / Associates:

ODUANE, JAMES IRVIN (Age 63)
DUANEI, JAMES I (Age 63)



 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, GRACE M (Age 105)
LAWLESS, HAROLD MICHAEL (Age 68)
LAWLESS, MARLENE


 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, HAROLD MICHAEL (Age 68)
LAWLESS, GRACE M (Age 105)
LAWLESS, DONALD 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 31, 2009, 11:17:18 PM
I believe these are all children of thomas Mat Lawless & Grace Marie Miranda Mitchell.

the last 5 are born in alameda california.  Harold michael is listed with them at their addresses in oregon, so he must be a son, his mother's maiden name is mitchell.  the other last 4 have the mother's maiden name as mitchell and also all born in alameda, california.  I will work more to confirm these are their children.  I know the first 3 certainly are their children. 

(http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww90/doubledeck/lawlessgrouporegon.jpg)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 31, 2009, 11:32:19 PM
just want to bring this over here because this is alameda county

5460 BANCROFT
oakland,
not showing him listed there but there are a bunch of harris and williams names



okay gary lawless showing up with katherine lawless at this one
I have her name somewhere, will find it

3727 41ST AVE
sacramento ca
Possible Employment / Business Associations:

 KATHERINE DO Offices and Clinics of Chiropractors
  OAKLAND, CA
HAYWARD, CA
SACRAMENTO, CA

Possible Relatives:

ROBINSON, ROSE (Age 78)
ROBINSON, SANDRANNA L (Age 38)
LAWLESS, KATHERINE M (Age 52)
ROBINSON, CARLOS S (Age 40)
LAWLESS, JERMAINE A (Age 27)
ROBINSON, SHADEEB O
ROBINSONSETZER, CARLOS (Age 40)
LAWLESS, GARY
ROBINSON, J 


ANTIOCH, CA
PITTSBURG, CA
HAYWARD, CA
OAKLAND, CA
SACRAMENTO, CA

 Possible Relatives:

ROBINSON, KATHERINE M (Age 36)
LAWLESS, KATHERINE M (Age 52)
LAWLESS, GARY

Possible Roommates / Associates:

HALL, HESTER HAMPTON (Age 51)
HAMPTON, ROBERT LEE (Age 51)



9506 BIRCH OAKLAND, CA


not finding him here, but more harris and williams here




Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 31, 2009, 11:36:22 PM
I believe these are all children of thomas Mat Lawless & Grace Marie Miranda Mitchell.

the last 5 are born in alameda california.  Harold michael is listed with them at their addresses in oregon, so he must be a son, his mother's maiden name is mitchell.  the other last 4 have the mother's maiden name as mitchell and also all born in alameda, california.  I will work more to confirm these are their children.  I know the first 3 certainly are their children. 

(http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww90/doubledeck/lawlessgrouporegon.jpg)

ok marian margaret lawless is born in FRESNO, NOT ALAMEDA
so they are going back and forth from fresno to grants pass, back to fresno.

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Marian Margaret Lawless
Name: Marian Margaret Lawless
Birth Date: 6 Apr 1930
Gender: Female 
Mother's Maiden Name: Mitchell 
Birth County: Fresno 
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: love4ever on May 31, 2009, 11:42:40 PM
I am bumping this from the Timothy lawless thread.

LAWLESS, TERRY L

DES MOINES, WA
FRESNO, CA
SHELTON, WA
KENT, WA   

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, RENEE C
(Age 38)

So I followed Renee Lawless here:

LAWLESS, RENEE C (Age 38)

Associated names:

SYKES, RENEE

KENT, WA   

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, TERRY L
SYKES, RONALD A (Age 38)
SYKES, ANNE M (Age 62)
SYKES, GERALD C (Age 35)
SYKES, JULIET M (Age 46)


So I decided just to look in relation to the "SYKE" name and the results...

SYKES, GARRY DWAYNE (Age 38)

Associated names:

SYKES, GARY D
   
Available   

PINE BLUFF, AR
GOULD, AR
BREMERTON, WA
APO SEATTLE, WA
PORTLAND, OR
LIBERAL, KS
FPO SAN FRANCISCO, CA
COMPTON, CA
FPO, AP
APO, AP
APO SEATTLE, WA
SEATTLE, WA
FPO SEATTLE, WA
LONG BEACH, CA
SAN FRANCISCO, CA   

Possible Relatives:

SYKES, LOUIS D (Age 48)
SYKES, VIVIAN L (Age 48)
SYKES, VIVIAN L (Age 32)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

JAMES, BERNARD (Age 58)
JOHNSON, DOROTHY BELMONT (Age 78)
JOHNSON, LORENZO (Age 82)
JOHNSON, CHANTINA (Age 49)



And then nothing..haha..Dangit!!!


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 31, 2009, 11:47:49 PM
this one is married in shasta county california

California Marriage Index, 1960-1985
about June D Lawless
Name: June D Lawless  
Age: 31 
Est. Birth: abt 1940 
Spouse Name: William A Butler  
Spouse Age: 33 
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1938 
Date: 23 Jan 1971
Location: Shasta   



Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 31, 2009, 11:50:35 PM
thanks for bringing that post over love4ever. 
I THINK LOL, we are getting somewhere here. 

this fresno stuff is starting to tie up.  and I know there was a gerald d lawless in fresno also.  there is also a gerald d lawless son of richard birdette lawless and bette june grimes in washington(richard the uncle of CLL).  maybe they will hook up.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on May 31, 2009, 11:55:23 PM
California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Harold Michael Lawless
Name: Harold Michael Lawless  
Birth Date: 25 Aug 1940  
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Mitchell  
Birth County: Alameda 
 

Social Security Death Index
about Harold M. Lawless
Name: Harold M. Lawless  
SSN: xxxxxxx
Last Residence: 97527  Grants Pass, Josephine, Oregon
Born: 25 Aug 1940
Died: 27 May 2006
State (Year) SSN issued: Oregon (1956)
 
Name: Harold M Lawless
Birth Date: Aug 1940
Address: 423 Timberidge Rd, Grants Pass, Oregon 97527-0201 (1993)
[920 NE 11th St, Grants Pass, Oregon 97526-1201 (1992)]
[1201 SW L St, Grants Pass, Oregon 97526] 

__________________________



Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: love4ever on May 31, 2009, 11:58:49 PM
That is the Terry Lee Lawless I found here:

(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5512/offenderimageaspx.th.jpg) (http://img189.imageshack.us/my.php?image=offenderimageaspx.jpg)

Lawless, Terry Lee
x Homeless, Seattle 00002

:Personal Identifiers
   
Sex:  M    
Ethnicity:  White
Height:  5' 9"    
Weight:  170
Age:  38    
Hair Color:  BRO
Eye Color:  BRO    

Conviction Information

Convicting Crime:   Unknown  Degree: 0

RCW: Unknown

Convicting Jurisdiction: King

Level III

Offenders Neighborhood

A map of the Offender's Neighborhood is not available
because of an invalid address.


Legend
 No Legend is available.


And here...

"Mr. Lawless was convicted in King County of Child Molestation First Degree
and Attempted Child Molestation First Degree in 1992. The victim’s in this case
were a ten and an eleven year old female. One was known to him, one was not.

He was also convicted of two counts of Robbery 1 and one count of Attempted
Robbery 1 in King County in 1992".

PDF CITED:
http://www.ci.kent.wa.us/assets/0/179/328/1338/8e5afd29-69f1-4e78-b128-b31dd22d66d5.pdf (http://www.ci.kent.wa.us/assets/0/179/328/1338/8e5afd29-69f1-4e78-b128-b31dd22d66d5.pdf)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 01, 2009, 12:01:33 AM
California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Barbara Grace Lawless
Name: Barbara Grace Lawless  
Birth Date: 13 May 1943
Gender: Female 
Mother's Maiden Name: Mitchell   
Birth County: Alameda 
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 01, 2009, 12:07:04 AM
I think this one is too old for the sex offender in seattle.  do you have a birthdate for that guy?

maybe this is the one listed before that in fresno?

Name: Terry L Lawless
Birth Date: Jul 1955
 
Phone Number: 224-4093
Address: 4449 N Lafayette, Fresno, California 93705-0501 (1993)
[3290 W Ashland #182, Fresno, California 93722-0201 (1978)]
[4121 E Tulare #D, Fresno, California 93702] 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: love4ever on June 01, 2009, 12:09:35 AM
thanks for bringing that post over love4ever. 
I THINK LOL, we are getting somewhere here. 

this fresno stuff is starting to tie up.  and I know there was a gerald d lawless in fresno also.  there is also a gerald d lawless son of richard birdette lawless and bette june grimes in washington(richard the uncle of CLL).  maybe they will hook up.


I hope it all hooks up soon DD....


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 01, 2009, 12:13:45 AM
okay there are two terry lawless at one of the freso addresses, and also listed with them is a seattle address.  so the sex offender might be the son at this address? 

alll below are at this address
4449 LAFAYETTE FRESNO, CA

SEATTLE, WA
FRESNO, CA
 

Possible Relatives:

MCEWIN, TERRY LYNN (Age 53)must be the wife of thomas G lawless?
LAWLESS, THOMAS G (Age 57)
WILLIAMS, DEBBIE L (Age 54)
LAWLESS, KRISTIN R (Age 32)
WILSON, LISA A



Possible Roommates / Associates:

CONLEY, KAREN L (Age 61)
__________________

FRESNO, CA

Possible Relatives:

WILLIAMS, DEBBIE L (Age 54)
MCEWIN, TERRY LYNN (Age 53)
LAWLESS, TIMOTHY B (Age 61)
LAWLESS, KRISTIN R (Age 32)
LAWLESS, TERRY L   
__________________

FRESNO, CA Possible Relatives:

WILLIAMS, DEBBIE L (Age 54)
LAWLESS, THOMAS G (Age 57)
LAWLESS, TIMOTHY B (Age 61)
LAWLESS, KRISTIN R (Age 32)
LAWLESS, DEBBIE LYNN (Age 54)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

FRANCO, JACKIE LEE (Age 59)
LOWLESS, THOMAS G
____________________________

FRESNO, CA
MADERA, CA

Possible Relatives:

BRUNER, RANDY WAYNE
MCEWIN, TERRY LYNN (Age 53)
MEYERS, DANIEL J (Age 43)
MEYERS, LARRY E (Age 46)
LAWLESS, THOMAS G (Age 57)
LAWLESS, TIMOTHY B (Age 61)
LAWLESS, KRISTIN R (Age 32)
WILLIAMS, OLAS (Age 96)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

LOWLESS, THOMAS G
_______________

 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 01, 2009, 12:16:17 AM
thanks for bringing that post over love4ever. 
I THINK LOL, we are getting somewhere here. 

this fresno stuff is starting to tie up.  and I know there was a gerald d lawless in fresno also.  there is also a gerald d lawless son of richard birdette lawless and bette june grimes in washington(richard the uncle of CLL).  maybe they will hook up.


I hope it all hooks up soon DD....

well as many sex offenders we have in lawless lines who knows.  but I think we are going to find someone in fresno.  hopefully gary d lawless father of timothy will be in either fresno or alameda.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: love4ever on June 01, 2009, 12:21:07 AM
Terry Lee Lawless dob February 8, 1971

http://www.ci.kent.wa.us/assets/0/179/328/1338/8e5afd29-69f1-4e78-b128-b31dd22d66d5.pdf (http://www.ci.kent.wa.us/assets/0/179/328/1338/8e5afd29-69f1-4e78-b128-b31dd22d66d5.pdf)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 01, 2009, 12:26:50 AM
this is jermaine lawless with gary lawless and katherine lawless in alameda

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Jermaine Antoine Lawless
Name: Jermaine Antoine Lawless  
Birth Date: 15 Feb 1982
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Hampton  
Birth County: Alameda   
_______________________________
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 01, 2009, 12:32:30 AM
this might be him.  this is above with renee c

LAWLESS, TERRY L
DES MOINES, WA
FRESNO, CA
SHELTON, WA
KENT, WA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, RENEE C (Age 38)  
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 01, 2009, 12:36:06 AM
LAWLESS, LORI LYNN (Age 39)

Associated names:

 BRUMBLE, LORI 
 BRUMBLE, LEE X
 LAWLESS, LORRI L
 ROGUE RIVER, OR
GRANTS PASS, OR  

Possible Relatives:

SELLS, LEANN GAIL (Age 35)
LAWLESS, BEVERLY JEAN (Age 66)
LAWLESS, HAROLD MICHAEL (Age 68)
BRUMBLE, VIKI AN (Age 39)
BRUMBLE, LEE (Age 50)
BRUMBLE, MISTY (Age 30)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

MCDONALD, DARLENE LORRAINE (Age 64)
BLOWERS, LISA MYRA (Age 52)
OAKLEY, GEORGE HAROLD (Age 33)
MCCARTY, TRACEY L (Age 42)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 01, 2009, 12:39:58 AM
okay they are in fresno in 1930'
who is this 77 yr old john w lawless?

1930 United States Federal Census
about Thomas M Lawless
Name: Thomas M Lawless
Home in 1930: Fresno, Fresno, California
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900 
Birthplace: Nebraska 
Relation to Head-of-house: Head 
Spouse's name: Grace M
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas M Lawless 30 
Grace M Lawless 26
  grace/nee mitchell
Earl N Lawless 6 
Everett T Lawless 4 3/12 
Ruby V Lawless 2 2/12 
John W Lawless 77  is this the father of thomas?
 
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 01, 2009, 12:44:29 AM
john w lawless is the uncle of thomas Mat Lawless
1930 United States Federal Census
about John W Lawless
Name: John W Lawless
Home in 1930: Fresno, Fresno, California  
Age: 77
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 
Relation to Head-of-house: Uncle  
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas M Lawless 30 
Grace M Lawless 26 
Earl N Lawless 6 
Everett T Lawless 4 3/12 
Ruby V Lawless 2 2/12 
John W Lawless 77  
 
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: love4ever on June 01, 2009, 12:57:39 AM
I need to go rest DD, I will be back in
the morning. You do a great job!!!
Sweet Dreams to you!
::MonkeyAngel::

~Love~


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 01, 2009, 12:59:08 AM
this is getting interesting.  the uncle of thomas mat lawless is living with him in fresno, the uncle is john w lawless he is 77.

so I find this, right age, and living with brother in oregon( I am not sure this is the right john w lawless but it might be)

1920 United States Federal Census
about James Lawless
Name: James Lawless
Home in 1920: Butte Falls, Jackson, Oregon  
Age: 70 years 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Birthplace: New York
Relation to Head-of-house: Brother   
Father's Birth Place: Ireland 
Mother's Birth Place: Ireland 
Marital Status: Single 
Race: White
Sex: Male
Able to read: Yes 
Able to Write: Yes 
Image: 106 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
John W Lawless 68 
James Lawless 70 
 
_______________
now look at this

I don't know if this is the right one or not, but his occupation is KENO PLAYER LOL

1880 United States Federal Census
about James Lawless
Name: James Lawless
Home in 1880: Troy, Rensselaer, New York
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Birthplace: New York
Relation to head-of-household: Self (Head)
Spouse's name: Amelia
Father's birthplace: Ireland
Mother's birthplace: Ireland
Neighbors: View others on page 
Occupation: Keno Player
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane: View Image
Household Members: Name Age
James Lawless 30 
Amelia Lawless 24 
Hattie Lawless 3M 
Marietta Salisbury 50 
Edgar Hale 13 
 
 

 
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 01, 2009, 01:03:37 AM
now here is a james from new york has a son thomas born 1899 right birth year for thomas mat lawless.  wife of james, and mother of thomas, is julia also from new york.  also a son named earl.

1910 United States Federal Census
about Thomas Lawless
Name: Thomas Lawless
Age in 1910: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Birthplace: Nebraska
Relation to Head-of-house: Son 
Father's Birth Place: New York 
Mother's Name: Julia 
Mother's Birth Place: New York 
Home in 1910: Leroy, Logan, Colorado
Marital Status: Single 
Race: White
Gender: Male 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Julia Lawless 35 
James Lawless 15 
Maggie Lawless 13 
Thomas Lawless 11 
Eliza Lawless 8 
Raymond Lawless 6 
Earl Lawless 1 
 
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 01, 2009, 01:04:18 AM
above in 1910 they were living in colorado.  this is where one of thomas kids are born, in colorado


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 01, 2009, 01:05:40 AM
now I don't know if the new york ones are the right ones, I am just looking and making notes. 



Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 01, 2009, 01:09:48 AM
the first child of thomas mat lawless and grace mitchell is earl n lawless and he is born in colorado, 1923, then the next child is born in fresno, california, so this fits with the julia and james being in colorado in 1910 and they had a son earl also

California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Earl N Lawless
Name: Earl N Lawless  
Social Security #:xxxxx
Sex: MALE 
Birth Date: 9 Jun 1923  
Birthplace: Colorado   
Death Date: 13 Feb 1974
Death Place: Santa Clara 
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on June 01, 2009, 01:10:08 AM
I'll be back Monkeys!!!...
My son is in a recital this evening! ::MonkeyDance::

Break a leg to Lone's son! ::MonkeyDance::

 BTW, I need to take a break. I read your son was having a rectal this evening! Big difference I would say! ::MonkeyLaugh::

Thanks So Much Tracy!!!!
HE was just AWESOME....says the beaming Mama ::MonkeyDance::
It's all about balance, eh?
I do miss Wyks, however...
Tuff Stuff...This case!


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on June 01, 2009, 01:34:25 AM
I'll be back Monkeys!!!...
My son is in a recital this evening! ::MonkeyDance::

Break a leg to Lone's son! ::MonkeyDance::

 BTW, I need to take a break. I read your son was having a rectal this evening! Big difference I would say! ::MonkeyLaugh::

Thanks So Much Tracy!!!!
HE was just AWESOME....says the beaming Mama ::MonkeyDance::
It's all about balance, eh?
I do miss Wyks, however...
Tuff Stuff...This case!

I miss Wyks too and have been thinking about her these past few days, hoping she is ok.
Glad your son did awesome at the recital, not rectal, lol.
Speaking of balance, Good nite, going to bed now!


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 01, 2009, 01:35:51 AM
now lets see if he connects, he would be born about 1932, so this could be gary d lawless.
this is gerald dean lawless aka woodle.
 

Name: Gerald D Lawless
[Gerald D Woodle
Birth Date: Jul 1931
[Jul 1961] 
Phone Number: 431-0614
Address: 6284 N Selland, Fresno, California 93711-0801 (1993)
[1306 W University Av, Fresno, California 93705-1201 (1992)]
[3685 N Van Ness, Fresno, California 93704] 


6284 SELLAND FRESNO, CA

 FRESNO, CA
CARUTHERS, CA
PINEDALE, CA

Possible Relatives:

GILL, SHELLI E (Age 45)
GILL, HENRY E (Age 66)
LAWLESS, ALMA LAVERNE (Age 77)
LAWLESS, GERALD DEAN (Age 77)
LAWLESS, ALMA L (Age 78)
GILL, JOE E
GILL, HENRY E
GILL, LARRY A
LAWLESS, LAWLESS GERALD

Possible Roommates / Associates:

FROST, BILLIE JUNE
FROST, RICHARD H



Possible Employment / Business Associations:

GERALD D LAWLESS, INC FRESNO, CA

Possible Relatives:

WOODLE, PATRICIA HADLEY (Age 59)
WOODLE, SUSAN S (Age 47)
WOODLE, DAVID MARTIN (Age 69)
LAWLESSGILL, CAROLYN R (Age 56)
LAWLESS, ALMA LAVERNE (Age 77)
LAWLESS, ALMA L (Age 78)
LAWLESS, L TRUST
LAWLESS, LAWLESS GERALD

Possible Roommates / Associates:

FROST, BILLIE JUNE
FROST, RICHARD H




 FRESNO, CA

 Possible Relatives:

LAWLESSGILL, CAROLYN R (Age 56)
LAWLESS, GERALD DEAN (Age 77)
BERMANATTY, RICHARD P (Age 62)
LAWLESS, LAWLESS GERALD
LAWLESS, L TRUST

Possible Roommates / Associates:

FROST, RICHARD H
LAWLESS, ALMA L (Age 78)
FROST, BILLIE JUNE




 FRESNO, CA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESSGILL, CAROLYN R (Age 56)
LAWLESS, GERALD DEAN (Age 77)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

FROST, RICHARD H
FROST, BILLIE JUNE
LAWLESS, ALMA LAVERNE (Age 78)



 FRESNO, CA

Possible Relatives:

FROST, RICHARD H

Possible Roommates / Associates:

LAWLESSGILL, CAROLYN R (Age 57)
LAWLESS, ALMA LAVERNE (Age 78)
LAWLESS, ALMA L (Age 78)
LAWLESS, GERALD DEAN (Age 78)



 FRESNO, CA

Possible Relatives:

FROST, BILLIE JUNE

Possible Roommates / Associates:

LAWLESSGILL, CAROLYN R (Age 57)
LAWLESS, GERALD DEAN (Age 78)
LAWLESS, ALMA L (Age 78)
LAWLESS, ALMA LAVERNE (Age 78)



 FRESNO, CA

 Possible Relatives:

LAWLESSGILL, CAROLYN R (Age 56)
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 01, 2009, 01:51:24 AM
wife and daughter of gerald dean lawless in fresno

Alma Lavern Lawless
[Suggest a correction]
Birth:    Sep. 28, 1931
Death:    Jun. 18, 2006

Alma was a retired medical assistant of 34 years with Dr. Jack Schiff, Dr. Robert Beklotz and Dr. Eugene Lowe.

Alma was the beloved wife of Gerald "Jerry" Lawless; the mother of, Carolyn Lawless Montanez; and the sister of Dorothy Cunningham of Lompoc, CA, and Linda Freeman of Washington.

A Graveside Service will be held at Clovis District Cemetery on Thursday, June 22, 2006, at 10:00 a.m.

Remembrances may be made to Nancy Hinds Hospice, 1416 W. Twain, Fresno, CA 93711.

LISLE FUNERAL HOME 1605 'L' Street, Fresno 266-0666


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 02:39:47 PM
I need a marriage license for this person
Alma Lavern Lawless
[Suggest a correction]
Birth:    Sep. 28, 1931
Death:    Jun. 18, 2006


and then I will know the nee/maiden name of her and her sisters.  Her sister linda lives in washington,  I wonder where? 

okay this is what I will work on now.  maybe they come from washington in the same area as CLL lawless line? 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on June 02, 2009, 02:54:49 PM
I need a marriage license for this person
Alma Lavern Lawless
[Suggest a correction]
Birth:    Sep. 28, 1931
Death:    Jun. 18, 2006


and then I will know the nee/maiden name of her and her sisters.  Her sister linda lives in washington,  I wonder where? 

okay this is what I will work on now.  maybe they come from washington in the same area as CLL lawless line? 
Hey DD
Do you think Marilyn (Timothy's mom) connects to the Oregon Clan???
Check my latest post in Timothy Lawless Connection....
Curious
 Lm
PS
I will see if I can find a marriage license


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 04:25:22 PM
here is earl n lawless, son of thomas mat lawless and grace mitchell/lawless roofing family in oregon

connected is also gary s lawless.  He is 55.  he is living in hayward cali.  this is bay area.  now how is he related to earn N lawless?  and where did he get the name of Gary?

2987 SYDNEY HAYWARD, CA

 RIPON, CA
ALAMEDA, CA
OAKLAND, CA
SAN LORENZO, CA
CORONADO, CA
MODESTO, CA
HAYWARD, CA
CASTRO VALLEY, CA

Possible Relatives:

CROWLEY, PAUL J (Age 68)
ROURICK, DANIEL A (Age 51)
ROURICK, DANNNY A (Age 51)
CROWLEY, ROBYN L (Age 46)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

STUDEBAKER, SAMANTHA CATHERINE (Age 37)
NELSON, DEBORAH ANNE (Age 53)
LAWLESS, GARY S (Age 56)



CASTRO VALLEY, CA
OAKLAND, CA
HAYWARD, CA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, MARY M (Age 83)hmm who is this, she is old
LAWLESS, MARK T
LAWLESS, DEBRA A
NELSON, DEBORAH ANNE (Age 52)
LAWLESS, EARL N
LAWLESS, DEBBIE A
LAWLESS, M T
LAWLESS, JACKIE L (Age 53) nee rueb

Possible Roommates / Associates:

CROWLEY, PAMELA H (Age 48)
ROURICK, DANIEL A (Age 52)



 SAN LEANDRO, CA
CASTRO VALLEY, CA
OAKLAND, CA
HAYWARD, CA

 Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, DEBRA A
LAWLESS, EARL N
LAWLESS, MARK T
LAWLESS, MARY M (Age 83)
LAWLESS, GARY S (Age 55)
LAWLESS, DEBBIE A
NELSON, GARVIN L
NELSON, GARVE L
NELSON, VIVIAN J (Age 75)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

CROWLEY, PAMELA H (Age 48)
ROURICK, DANIEL A (Age 52)
MCENTEE, LABARBERA CHERYL (Age 38)




 SAN LORENZO, CA
ALAMEDA, CA
CASTRO VALLEY, CA
CORONADO, CA
MODESTO, CA
HAYWARD, CA
OAKLAND, CA

Possible Relatives:

CROWLEY, PAMELA H (Age 48)
ROURICK, DANNNY A (Age 51)
ROURICK, PAM (Age 49)
ROURICK, DANIEL P
ROURICK, PAMELA C (Age 48)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

NELSON, DEBORAH ANNE (Age 53)
LAWLESS, GARY S (Age 56)



 HAYWARD, CA

Possible Relatives:

NELSON, DEBORAH ANNE (Age 52)
LAWLESS, GARY S (Age 55)
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 04:28:44 PM
18203 CREST HAYWARD, CA


 CASTRO VALLEY, CA
HAYWARD, CA
SAN LEANDRO, CA
NORTH HILLS, CA
CHARLOTTE, NC  

Possible Relatives:

WHITFIELD, KEITH W (Age 47)
FERNANDES, ANTHONY F (Age 89)
FERNANDES, PRESSIE F (Age 85)
WHITFIELD, ZACHARY J (Age 23)



 CASTRO VALLEY, CA
OAKLAND, CA
HAYWARD, CA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, MARY M (Age 83)
LAWLESS, MARK T
LAWLESS, DEBRA A
NELSON, DEBORAH ANNE (Age 52)
LAWLESS, EARL N
LAWLESS, DEBBIE A
LAWLESS, M T
LAWLESS, JACKIE L (Age 53)


Possible Roommates / Associates:

CROWLEY, PAMELA H (Age 48)
ROURICK, DANIEL A (Age 52)




 CASTRO VALLEY, CA
HAYWARD, CA
WAIMEA, HI

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, EARL N
NELSON, DEBORAH ANNE (Age 52)
LAWLESS, MARY M (Age 83)
LAWLESS, GARY S (Age 55)
LAWLESS, JACKIE L (Age 53)
 
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on June 02, 2009, 04:31:13 PM
I'll be Baaack later!  ::MonkeyRoll::
(http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/GaryHinrichs/monkey3-1.jpg)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 04:37:51 PM
here they are in OAKLAND, cali

7916 WINTHROPE OAKLAND, CA

 RENO, NV
SAN LEANDRO, CA
MANTECA, CA
UNION CITY, CA
OAKLAND, CA

Possible Relatives:

DELBUONO, LORRAINE M (Age 76)
DELBUONO, JENT ANTHONY (Age 45)
DELBUONO, LORRAINE M



 ANTIOCH, CA
SAN LEANDRO, CA
OAKLAND, CA
SAN JOSE, CA
DURHAM, NC
ALAMEDA, CA
CHAPEL HILL, NC  


Possible Relatives:

JOHNSON, VIVIAN LEE (Age 49)
JOHNSON, POLLY
JOHNSON, RODERICK L (Age 55)
SMITH, AELAINE H (Age 42)
JOHNSON, GLORIA J (Age 55)
JOHNSON, ERIN P (Age 47)
JOHNSON, NICOLE S (Age 47)
JOHNSON, SHETEKA (Age 49)
JOHNSON, PAULA JEAN (Age 53)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

WHEATLEY, GLORIA ALYCE (Age 73)
JOSEPH, DANIELLE ELIZABETH (Age 33)



 UPPER MARLBORO, MD
SAN LEANDRO, CA
HAYWARD, CA
OAKLAND, CA

Possible Relatives:

BURNS, WILLIE E (Age 67)
BURNS, MARK B (Age 49)
BURNS, JENIFER

Possible Roommates / Associates:

FOSTER, TRACY (Age 37)
MCCLOUD, ESTHER H
MCCLOUDJR, CHARLES J (Age 73)



 CASTRO VALLEY, CA
OAKLAND, CA
HAYWARD, CA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, MARY M (Age 83)
LAWLESS, MARK T
LAWLESS, DEBRA A
NELSON, DEBORAH ANNE (Age 52)
LAWLESS, EARL N
LAWLESS, DEBBIE A
LAWLESS, M T
LAWLESS, JACKIE L (Age 53
) nee rueb

Possible Roommates / Associates:

CROWLEY, PAMELA H (Age 48)
ROURICK, DANIEL A (Age 52)




 SAN LEANDRO, CA
CASTRO VALLEY, CA
OAKLAND, CA
HAYWARD, CA

 Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, DEBRA A
LAWLESS, EARL N
LAWLESS, MARK T
LAWLESS, MARY M (Age 83)
LAWLESS, GARY S (Age 55)
LAWLESS, DEBBIE A

NELSON, GARVIN L
NELSON, GARVE L
NELSON, VIVIAN J (Age 75)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

CROWLEY, PAMELA H (Age 48)
ROURICK, DANIEL A (Age 52)
MCENTEE, LABARBERA CHERYL (Age 38)



 SAN LEANDRO, CA
OAKLAND, CA

Possible Relatives:

NELSON, DEBORAH ANNE (Age 52)
LAWLESS, GARY S (Age 55)  



SAN JOSE, CA
ANTIOCH, CA
OAKLAND, CA
RICHMOND, CA

Possible Relatives:

JOHNSON, DANA M (Age 46)
JOHNSON, ENN P
JOHNSON, ROBIN EUGENIA (Age 52)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

CARTER, ANDRIA M (Age 25)



 OAKLAND, CA 

 Possible Roommates / Associates:

SILVA MEDINA,  JOSE (Age 41)
GRIEGO, BENNIE LOUIE (Age 51)
WILLIAMS, JOHNNY FRANCIS (Age 37)
ESPINOZA, FERNANDO




 OAKLAND, CA

Possible Relatives:

GRIEGO, JOEL

Possible Roommates / Associates:

HENTON, MICHAEL LEE (Age 28)
HENTON, NANCY A (Age 64)
BRAZELTON, JOEL F (Age 79)
WILLIAMS, JOHNNY FRANCIS (Age 37)
BARGOMA, WANDRA SWAYNE (Age 64)




 OAKLAND, CA
SACRAMENTO, CA  

Possible Relatives:

WILLIAMSON, VANESSA V (Age 37)
WILLIAMS, PERCY
WILLIAMS, FEDO
WILLIAMSON, BURNADETTE (Age 56)
WILLIAMS, JOHNTAY LAMONT (Age 61)
WILLIAMS, VIETTA ROSE (Age 53)
WILLIAMS, FABUNMI O (Age 41)
WILLIAMS, LOLITA
WILLIAMS, FABUNMI OLUBIYI (Age 40)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

HENTON, MICHAEL LEE (Age 28)
HENTON, NANCY A (Age 64)
BRAZELTON, JOEL F (Age 79)
GRIEGO, BENNIE LOUIE (Age 51)
BARGOMA, WANDRA SWAYNE (Age 64)
BRAZELTON, LAURA L (Age 49)
DCANADY, DINO D (Age 44)
HARRIS, ARTHUR L (Age 66)who is this?
CANACKY, DINO (Age 44)



 OAKLAND, CA
SAN LEANDRO, CA
PANORAMA CITY, CA
NORTHRIDGE, CA
LOS ANGELES, CA
HAYWARD, CA
SIGNAL HILL, CA
COVINA, CA
VENICE, CA

Possible Relatives:

THOMAS, ERNESTO DON (Age 53)
THOMAS, SEAN CHARLES (Age 38)
THOMAS, ARMANDO V (Age 50)
ROBINSON, MALIKA JUANITA (Age 37)
GARDNER, YESHESHANDA S (Age 35)
THOMAS, MILTON R (Age 81)
THOMAS, KENNETH RAY (Age 52)
THOMAS, GREG
THOMAS, GINA MARIE (Age 39)



 OAKLAND, CA

Possible Relatives:

NELSON, DEBORAH ANNE (Age 52)
NELSON, J
NELSON, BARBARA


Possible Relatives:

NELSON, DEBORAH ANNE (Age 52)
NELSON, B
NELSON, BARBARA



OAKLAND, CA

Possible Relatives:

NELSON, DEBORAH ANNE (Age 52)
NELSON, J



 OAKLAND, CA

Possible Relatives:

THOMAS, CHENOA A (Age 31)
THOMAS, DENNIS
THOMAS, ZENAIDA D



 OAKLAND, CA

Possible Relatives:

THOMAS, CHENOA A (Age 31)
THOMAS, CHENON A
THOMAS, ZENAIDA D


Possible Relatives:

THOMAS, CHENOA   A (Age 31)
THOMAS, DENNIS
THOMAS, CHENON A





 OAKLAND, CA

Possible Relatives:

NELSON, DEBORAH ANNE (Age 52)



OAKLAND, CA

Possible Relatives:

DELBUONO, TANA A (Age 54) 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 05:39:59 PM
California Marriage Index, 1960-1985
about Gary S Lawless
Name: Gary S Lawless
Age: 23 
Est. Birth: abt 1954 
Spouse Name: Jackie L Rueb
Spouse Age: 20 
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1957 
Date: 20 Feb 1977
Location: Alameda 
 
__________________________

California Divorce Index, 1966-1984
about Gary S Lawless
Name: Gary S Lawless
Spouse Name: Jackie L
Location: Ventura 
Date: 15 Apr 1981
 
____________________________________-

I think gary s lawless is the son of earl n lawless, who is the son of thomas mat lawless/oregon roofing family.  Gary gets married in alameda/bay area cali.  he is divorced in ventura/southern cali.  middle "S", hmmm

so does earl have a brother gary? someone in this family must be named gary, somewhere



Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 05:42:11 PM
I need a marriage license for this person
Alma Lavern Lawless
[Suggest a correction]
Birth:    Sep. 28, 1931
Death:    Jun. 18, 2006


and then I will know the nee/maiden name of her and her sisters.  Her sister linda lives in washington,  I wonder where? 

okay this is what I will work on now.  maybe they come from washington in the same area as CLL lawless line? 
Hey DD
Do you think Marilyn (Timothy's mom) connects to the Oregon Clan???
Check my latest post in Timothy Lawless Connection....
Curious
 Lm
PS
I will see if I can find a marriage license

I really thinnk gary d lawless the missing father might connect to the oregon linne.  it is just a guess.  gee, this screen is jumping all over ugh.  let me go read your post on the other thread


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 06:38:17 PM
parents
thoman & Grace Lawless/oregon roofing company
son
Earl N Lawless and wife is mary m unknown earl born 1923, d. 1974
earl is born in colorado, he dies in santa clara bay are cali
he was living with family in fresno in 1930.

son of earl and Mary m
Gary S lawless born 1954


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 06:58:20 PM
now we have gerald dean lawless married to alma laverne unknown
daughter is carolyn lawless
all living in fresno

and company gerald d lawless inc.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 07:02:05 PM
and we have these lawless listed in fresno also


LAWLESS, JULIE A (Age 45)
LAWLESS, LARRY J (Age 69)
LAWLESS, LORI ANN (Age 44)
LAWLESS, BRIAN JOHN (Age 46)
LAWLESS, JOAN A (Age 66)
LAWLESS, STEVEN J (Age 41)
WEAVERLAWLESS, PAMELA L (Age 43)
LAWLESS, BRIAN J


 FRESNO, CA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, JULIE A (Age 45)
LAWLESS, LARRY J (Age 69)
LAWLESS, STEVEN J (Age 41)
LAWLESS, JOAN A (Age 66)
LAWLESS, ANN
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 07:13:22 PM
also at the above address is

GLAMOUR PHOTOGRAPHY, INC


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 07:33:37 PM
look at the children of thomas mat lawless and grace mitchell(oregon lawless roofing family)

1923, 1926, 1927, 1930, 1937, 1939, 1940, 1943

3 yrw, 1 yr, 3 yrs, 7 yrs, 2 yrs, 1 yr, 3 yrs.

a big gap between 1930 and 1937...
are we missing some children?? 
gary d lawless father of timothy lawless is born about 1933, he would fit in the GAP.



 
   
 Earl N lawless
1923 – 1974     
everett thomas lawless
1926 –     
Ruby Vernetta lawless
1927 – 1981     
Marian M lawless
1930 –     
Betty Jane lawless
1937 –     
June Donna lawless
1939 –     
harold michael lawless
1940 – 2006     
barbara grace lawless
1943 – 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 07:37:10 PM
the children above are born
colorado
fresno
grants pass
fresno
alameda
alameda
alameda
alameda



Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 07:41:55 PM
child 1930 is born in freso, then we have a gap until child 1937 who is born in alameda.

gary d lawless father of timothy is married in napa to tieken. this is cali bay area, a little above the bay area.  alameda is also the bay area.

I do believe there is a child missing between 1930 and 1937.  with all these kids every few years, it is very strange there is a 7 year gap in between them.  she has children all the way through 1943.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 08:50:29 PM
LAWLESS, MARK T
 CASTRO VALLEY, CA
HAYWARD, CA
WAIMEA, HI

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, EARL N
NELSON, DEBORAH ANNE (Age 52)
LAWLESS, MARY M (Age 83)
LAWLESS, GARY S (Age 55)
LAWLESS, JACKIE L (Age 53)  wife/x wife of gary s lawless above


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 09:08:10 PM
California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Mark Thomas Lawless
Name: Mark Thomas Lawless
Birth Date: 3 Jul 1950
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Sanchez 
Birth County: Alameda 
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 10:16:30 PM
making a note before I get lost LOL

eva sanderson is the grand aunt of CLL, she is the aunt of his mother jessie dicus. 
eva anderson married harold haight and they had a daughter who a Mutch.

now I am looking in grants pass that there is a HAIGHT with a bunch of lawless names, and then at the same address is connected harold michael lawless, who is in the house with everett, earl etc of the lawless roofing line in grants pass. 

now I have to see if this harold haight in the Cll line is the same family as in the lawless roofing line in grants pass..

this is a mixed up mess and will take me a bit to sort through it all. 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 10:21:46 PM
Name: Beverly J Lawless
Birth Date: Nov 1942
Address: 423 Timberidge Rd, Grants Pass, Oregon 97527-1201 (1992)
[920 NE 11th St, Grants Pass, Oregon 97526]
[1307 SE Perry St, Grants Pass, Oregon 97526]

at the timberbridge address there is:

PAPPAS, JENNIFER K (Age 43)
MALONE, LYNN MARIE (Age 46)
ANDES, ANDES KRETINA (Age 35)
MALONE, STEPHEN MARK (Age 32)
HAIGHT, JUDITH E (Age 64)
MALONEY, FLORENCE JOANN (Age 35)
MALONE, PAMELA DENISE (Age 40)
MALONE, KEDRA
MALONE, JENNIFER K

Possible Roommates / Associates:

MEITER, JOHN S
HAIGHT, GLEN R (Age 83)
BROWN, MICHEAL LEE (Age 47)



LAWLESS, LORI LYNN (Age 39)
LAWLESS, BEVERLY JEAN (Age 66)
LAWLESS, HAROLD MICHAEL (Age 68) lawless roofing linne
SELLS, HENRY BERTRAN (Age 73)
SELLS, LARRY BERTRAN (Age 39)
SELLS, AUDREY JEAN (Age 63)
TINCHER, LAURINDA MAE (Age 41)
SELLS, AARON DAVID (Age 36)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

DAVIDSON, LEVINA MAE (Age 82)
DAVIDSON, LINDA MARIE (Age 62)
DAVIDSON, CLARENCE H (Age 89)
HAVEN, DARRYL WAYNE (Age 41)


Possible Relatives:

SELLS, LEANN GAIL (Age 35)
LAWLESS, BEVERLY JEAN (Age 66)
LAWLESS, LORI LYNN (Age 39)
LAWLESS, GRACE M  (Age 105)wife of thomas mat lawless;/she is nee mitchell
LAWLESS, LORI L (Age 39)
LAWLESS, MARLENE wife of donald below
LAWLESS, DONALD lawless roofingdonald thomas lawless


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 10:27:31 PM
so he is out of washington.  that is good, he might be related to harold haight, still looking.


U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
about Glen R Haight
Name: Glen R Haight  
Birth Year: 1926  
Race: White, citizen (White) 
Nativity State or Country: Washington   
State of Residence: Oregon 
County or City: Benton 
   
Enlistment Date: 23 Jan 1946
Enlistment State: California 
Enlistment City: Portola 
Branch: No branch assignment 
Branch Code: No branch assignment 
Grade: Corporal 
Grade Code: Corporal 
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the Panama Canal Department 
Component: Regular Army (including Officers, Nurses, Warrant Officers, and Enlisted Men) 
Source: Enlisted Man, Philippine Scout or recall to AD of an enlisted man who had been transferred to the ERC 
   
Education: 2 years of high school 
Marital Status: Single, without dependents 
Height: 04 
Weight: 050 
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 10:29:26 PM
Name: Glen R Haight
Birth Date: Oct 1926  
Phone Number: 474-1768
Address: 507 SE Jackson, Roseburg, Oregon 97470-0101 (1993)
[423 Timberidge Rd, Grants Pass, Oregon 97527-0301 

this is the same one listed with harold michael lawless and donald thomas lawless of the lawless roofing line, and is the same one in the military record which says he was born in washington.

 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 10:33:32 PM
here is harold haight who married Cll's grandaunt /this is eva grace sanderson.  glen r haight would have been 4 yrs old at the time of the 1930 census.  he does not seem to be in their household.  hmmm

1930 United States Federal Census
about Harold A Haight
Name: Harold A Haight
Home in 1930: Wenatchee, Chelan, Washington
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 
Birthplace: Wisconsin 
Relation to Head-of-house: Head 
Spouse's name: Grace E
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Harold A Haight 39 
Grace E Haight 43 
Margaret E Haight 16 
Barbara L Haight 14 
Isabelle G Haight 13 
Frank W Haight 6 
 
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 10:37:38 PM
here is the ones connected to CLL this is his grand aunt

Washington Births, 1907-1919
about Barbara Louise Haight
Name: Barbara Louise Haight
Birth Date: 4 Jul 1915
Location: Okanogan 
Sex: Female 
Race: White 
Father's Name: Harold Althouse Haight 
Mother's Name: Eva Grace (sanderson) aunt of jessie dicus, mother of CLL 
Image Filename: 2711 
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 10:38:39 PM
another daughter of harold haight and CLL's grand aunt eva "grace" sanderson

Washington Births, 1907-1919
about Isabelle Gladya Haight
Name: Isabelle Gladya Haight
Birth Date: 27 Oct
Location: Okanogan 
Sex: Female 
Race: White 
Father's Name: Harold A Haight 
Image Filename: 2711 
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on June 02, 2009, 10:51:47 PM
Do we know the names of Pastor Lane's parents? ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 11:02:29 PM
Harold Althouse Haight
Birth: 20 Sep 1890
Ashland, Ashland, Wisconsin, United States 
Death: 1963
Spokane, Spokane, Washington, United States 

the husband of eva grace sanderson(Cll's grand aunt/aunt of his mother jessie dicus)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 11:05:20 PM
Do we know the names of Pastor Lane's parents? ::MonkeyConfused::

yes I have his family all the way back, if you look on the genealogy /no discussion pages. 

if we can hook this glen r haight (who is in the households of the oregon roofing lawless line) to this harold althouse haight line who is grand uncle by marriage to CLL, then I think we can pretty much be sure the lawless roofing line in grants pass is connected to the lawless linne of CLL.

I can't hook they up yet still looking for more info on glen r haight wife judy.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 11:26:02 PM
this glen r haight is showing up with the oregon roofing lawless line. 

then in the CLL line we have harold althouse haight married to sarah sanderson's sister, which would be the grand aunt of Cll. 

you will see sarah sanderson married to alfred dicus, these are the parents of jessie dicus who is the mother of CLL. 

Descendants of Alfred Dicus
                              
   1     Alfred Dicus   1876 - 1972   b: March 12, 1876 in Woodbury, Iowa, United States   d: February 06, 1972 in Brewster, Okanogan, Washington, United States   Age at birth of first child: 25 est.   Age at death: 95         
.      +Sarah Edna Lousia Sadie Sanderson   1882 - 1966   b: February 28, 1882 in Olden Twp, Frontenac, Ontario, Canada   d: April 09, 1966 in Pateros, Okanogan, Washington, United States   Age at birth of first child: 19 est.   Age at death: 84         
........   2     Infant Dicus   1901 -   b: 1901                  
........   2     Eva Loetta Dicus   1902 -   b: 1902                  
........   2     Dorothy Elva Dicus   1904 -   b: 1904                  
........   2     Jessie Grace Dicus   1906 -   b: 1906 in Douglas, Washington, United States      Age at birth of first child: 21 est.            
...........      +George Webster Lawless   1892 - 1969   b: April 28, 1892 in Fremont, Dodge, Nebraska, United States   d: November 11, 1969 in Washington, United States   Age at birth of first child: 34   Age at death: 77         
..................   3     Clifford "Lane" Lawless   1931 -   b: August 1931                  
.....................      +Constance Lorene Harris   1941 -   b: August 06, 1941 in Monterey County, California, USA                  
............................   4     Brett Lawless                        
............................   4     Brian L Lawless   1961 -   b: 1961                  
...............................      +Judy A. Purks                        
............................   4     Joni Lawless                        
...............................      +Hughes                        
..................   3     Paul George Lawless   1927 - 1997   b: January 24, 1927   d: March 26, 1997 in Hyattsville, Prince Georges, Maryland, United States of America      Age at death: 70         
........      *2nd Husband of Jessie Grace Dicus:                        
...........      +"Lucky Louie"                        
........   2     Everest Alfred Dicus   1910 - 1993   b: February 22, 1910   d: January 1993 in Tonasket, Okanogan, Washington, USA      Age at death: 82 est.         
...........      +Norma May Greenway                        
........   2     David Wilson Dicus   1912 - 1970   b: 1912   d: January 31, 1970 in Omak, Okanogan, Washington, USA      Age at death: 58 est.         
........   2     Norbert Frank Dicus   1921 -   b: 1921                  


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 11:33:10 PM
hmmm can't find a connection yet through haight, so will try some other way.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 11:47:54 PM
okay this is harold michael lawless/oregon lawless roofing line
he is married to beverly jean SILVA.

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Harold Michael Lawless
Name: Harold Michael Lawless
Birth Date: 25 Aug 1940
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Mitchell 
Birth County: Alameda 
 
he is the son of thomas mat lawless and grace marie miranda mitchell. 
he is one of the kids who were born in alameda.

Social Security Death Index
about Harold M. Lawless
Name: Harold M. Lawless
SSN: xxxxxxxx
Last Residence: 97527  Grants Pass, Josephine, Oregon
Born: 25 Aug 1940
Died: 27 May 2006
State (Year) SSN issued: Oregon (1956)
 
Nevada Marriage Index, 1956-2005
about Harold M Lawless
Name: Harold M Lawless
Spouse: Silva Beverly Jean  
Marriage Date: 2 Oct 1963
Recorded county: Clark 
Page: M04 

hmmm silva is a very common name, but... could she be related to the silva dairy where sandra's body was deposited in the irrigation pond?
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 02, 2009, 11:58:36 PM
this is june donna lawless, another daughter of thomas mat lawless and grace marie miranda mitchell. 


June donna lawless is the sister of harold michael lawess.  she married william butler, born about 1938. she was born in alameda, cali.

REDDING, CA
PALO CEDRO, CA right by redding
SAN JOSE, CA bay area/santa clara county
ANDERSON, CA right by redding
SANTA CLARA, CA
GRANTS PASS, OR  

Possible Relatives:

STEWART, MICHAEL SHAWN (Age 46)
STEWART, TRACEY IRENE (Age 41)
STEWART, BURT D
AXNER, DANYELL LYNN (Age 30)
STEWART, KANDY
PENNINGTON, RONALD R
STEWART, MICHAEL S (Age 46)
STEWART BOUTTE, KANDY L (Age 50)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

BUTLER, DONNA JUNE
BUTLER, DONNA JUNE

BOUTTE, DAVID JOHN (Age 52)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 03, 2009, 12:03:32 AM
here they are with brumble, I remember seeing that name somewhere.


ROGUE RIVER, OR
GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

SELLS, LEANN GAIL (Age 35)
LAWLESS, BEVERLY JEAN (Age 66)
LAWLESS, HAROLD MICHAEL (Age 68)

BRUMBLE, VIKI AN (Age 39)
BRUMBLE, LEE (Age 50)
BRUMBLE, MISTY (Age 30)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

MCDONALD, DARLENE LORRAINE (Age 64)
BLOWERS, LISA MYRA (Age 52)
OAKLEY, GEORGE HAROLD (Age 33)
MCCARTY, TRACEY L (Age 42)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 03, 2009, 12:06:34 AM
this might be her, but I am not sure yet

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Beverly Jean Silva
Name: Beverly Jean Silva
Birth Date: 22 Nov 1942
Gender: Female 
Mother's Maiden Name: Domenici 
Birth County: Sonoma   
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 03, 2009, 12:09:14 AM
yes it is her above, same nov 1942 birthdate, and these are the same addresses with the lawless roofing line she is listed with.

Name: Beverly J Lawless
Birth Date: Nov 1942
Address: 423 Timberidge Rd, Grants Pass, Oregon 97527-1201 (1992)
[920 NE 11th St, Grants Pass, Oregon 97526]
[1307 SE Perry St, Grants Pass, Oregon 97526] 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 03, 2009, 12:12:50 AM
she is born in Sonoma, cali.  that is basically the same place as Napa where gary d lawless, father of timothy, married marylin tieken.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Sister on June 03, 2009, 10:04:37 PM
DD, I don't know if this will help with the Haights, but you did a post in re a newspaper article about that family on Blinks original site here #53.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on June 04, 2009, 12:35:30 AM
look at the children of thomas mat lawless and grace mitchell(oregon lawless roofing family)

1923, 1926, 1927, 1930, 1937, 1939, 1940, 1943

3 yrw, 1 yr, 3 yrs, 7 yrs, 2 yrs, 1 yr, 3 yrs.

a big gap between 1930 and 1937...
are we missing some children?? 
gary d lawless father of timothy lawless is born about 1933, he would fit in the GAP.



 
   
 Earl N lawless
1923 – 1974     
everett thomas lawless
1926 –     
Ruby Vernetta lawless
1927 – 1981     
Marian M lawless
1930 –     
Betty Jane lawless
1937 –     
June Donna lawless
1939 –     
harold michael lawless
1940 – 2006     
barbara grace lawless
1943 – 

Could Cl fit into the missing year?


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on June 04, 2009, 12:50:25 AM
look at the children of thomas mat lawless and grace mitchell(oregon lawless roofing family)

1923, 1926, 1927, 1930, 1937, 1939, 1940, 1943

3 yrw, 1 yr, 3 yrs, 7 yrs, 2 yrs, 1 yr, 3 yrs.

a big gap between 1930 and 1937...
are we missing some children?? 
gary d lawless father of timothy lawless is born about 1933, he would fit in the GAP.



 
   
 Earl N lawless
1923 – 1974     
everett thomas lawless
1926 –     
Ruby Vernetta lawless
1927 – 1981     
Marian M lawless
1930 –     
Betty Jane lawless
1937 –     
June Donna lawless
1939 –     
harold michael lawless
1940 – 2006     
barbara grace lawless
1943 – 

Could Cl fit into the missing year?
This is very interesting, Monkeys!!! ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on June 04, 2009, 01:02:40 AM
I have read during the great depression families with a lot of children would send a child or two to relatives. Could this have happened?

Maybe that is why CL parents do not show any other children, maybe they could not have any? Cl's brother could have been adopted or maybe this family sent 2 children? Does this sound crazy?


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 04, 2009, 02:28:10 PM
I have read during the great depression families with a lot of children would send a child or two to relatives. Could this have happened?

Maybe that is why CL parents do not show any other children, maybe they could not have any? Cl's brother could have been adopted or maybe this family sent 2 children? Does this sound crazy?

no, this is not crazy at all, this did happen a lot then.  cousins grew up in the same households all the time.  if someone is having children every year and they have 3 or 4 kids already a lot of times some would go live with the mother's sister.  and another reason they use to send boys to live with a brother or sister is to keep the last name in the family if something happened to one family, they had boys to carry on the last name who they sent to the uncles house.  or maybe they just could not affordd to support all the kids or the mother got really sick or sometimes the mother died in childbirth and the babies were sent to live with the sister because the father could not take care of the small babies.  also there were some states back then who had land grants and would give families land, and the amount of land given depended on how many children you had.  so if a family had no children or only one, they would get more kids from someoe so they could get more land.  just a lot of weird stuff went on


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on June 04, 2009, 02:29:32 PM
Tracy... ::MonkeyConfused::
Nothin'...
and I mean NOTHIN....
would sound crazy to me in this case!!!!


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 04, 2009, 03:10:48 PM
Tracy... ::MonkeyConfused::
Nothin'...
and I mean NOTHIN....
would sound crazy to me in this case!!!!

well, I am sure I could post a couple of thoughts of mine that surely would sound crazy, so I shall refrain LOL.  however, without getting into specifics I do not think Melissa just woke up one day and decided to kill sandra cantu.  I think there is much more to this case that might not ever surface unless some concerned people keep digging and digging, matching locations, people, dates and other cases.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on June 04, 2009, 03:55:27 PM
Tracy... ::MonkeyConfused::
Nothin'...
and I mean NOTHIN....
would sound crazy to me in this case!!!!

well, I am sure I could post a couple of thoughts of mine that surely would sound crazy, so I shall refrain LOL.  however, without getting into specifics I do not think Melissa just woke up one day and decided to kill sandra cantu.  I think there is much more to this case that might not ever surface unless some concerned people keep digging and digging, matching locations, people, dates and other cases.

DoubleD
I'll 2nd that....
  Lm


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Sister on June 04, 2009, 05:24:45 PM
DD and all, I couldn't agree more.  I went and got a new shovel this past weekend and told them to order a new one for me every week until I told them to stop.
 :smt061 Justice for Sandra!!!


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 04, 2009, 07:52:03 PM
okay I saw this name the other day, now I have this so sticking it on here because I know it goes with someone.

Nevada Marriage Index, 1956-2005
about Walter Scott Lawless
Name: Walter Scott Lawless  
Gender: Male 
Residence state: Oregon  
Spouse: Natasha Caren Baumgardner  
Spouse residence state: Oregon 
Marriage Date: 31 Dec 1990
Marriage County: Washoe 
Recorded date: 7 Jan 1991
Recorded city: Reno 
Book: 896 
Page: 919 
Instrument number: D085833 

I also found a couple more children in the birth records, one is charles walter lawless.  more of the oregon earl n lawless roofing family, trying to find more connected names
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 04, 2009, 07:56:10 PM
and who is this out of grants pass?

Social Security Death Index
about Nettie Lawless
Name: Nettie Lawless
SSN: xxxxxx
Last Residence: 97526  Grants Pass, Josephine, Oregon, United States of America
Born: 20 Mar 1901
Died: Oct 1976
State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951)
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 04, 2009, 07:56:41 PM
Social Security Death Index
about Raymond Lawless
Name: Raymond Lawless
SSN: xxxxxxx
Last Residence: 97526  Grants Pass, Josephine, Oregon, United States of America
Born: 9 Apr 1902
Died: Jul 1976
State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951)
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Sister on June 04, 2009, 07:59:54 PM
Walter Scott Lawless -- see #7 this thread.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 04, 2009, 08:00:31 PM
Social Security Death Index
about Roland Lawless
Name: Roland Lawless
SSN: xxxxxxx
Last Residence: 97526  Grants Pass, Josephine, Oregon, United States of America
Born: 20 Jul 1933
Last Benefit: 97526  Grants Pass, Josephine, Oregon, United States of America
Died: Nov 1981
State (Year) SSN issued: Oregon (1951-1952)
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 04, 2009, 08:01:43 PM
Social Security Death Index
about Edwin Lawless
Name: Edwin Lawless
SSN: xxxxxx
Last Residence: 97526  Grants Pass, Josephine, Oregon, United States of America
Born: 2 Mar 1958
Died: Dec 1973
State (Year) SSN issued: Oregon (1971-1972)
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 04, 2009, 08:04:46 PM
I don't know who this is but the middle name of burdet is like birdette, so making a note here of this guy, born 1905, he might fit back there somewhere

Oregon Death Index, 1903-98
about Alton Burdet Lawless
Name: Lawless, Alton Burdet  
County: Deschutes 
Death Date: 22 Nov 1995
Certificate: 95-24484 
Age: 90 
Birth Date: 26 Oct 1905  
Spouse: Zena   


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 04, 2009, 08:09:12 PM
okay I remember thinking Julia might fit with john the uncle of someone.  where is that john w lawless on the 1930 census with someone, he is listed as the uncle.  gee I can't remember where all this stuff is. 

Oregon Death Index, 1903-98
about John Lawless
Name: Lawless, John  
County: Josephine (this is the county grants pass is in)  
Death Date: 27 Apr 1950
Certificate: 3792 
Spouse: Julia  
 
wow, no birthdate on here grrrr


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 04, 2009, 08:13:00 PM
here it is, the uncle john w lawless is on the census with thomas mat lawless who is the one with the lawless roofing in oregon.  hmmm I wonder if the one who dies above is this john w lawless.  the one above is 77 years old in 1930 census, so if he dies in 1950 he would be 97 when he dies.  maybe we can find an obit for a john w lawless dies when this guy does who is 97 when he dies? in josephine county oregon.

Name: Thomas M Lawless
Home in 1930: Fresno, Fresno, California
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900 
Birthplace: Nebraska 
Relation to Head-of-house: Head 
Spouse's name: Grace M
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas M Lawless 30 
Grace M Lawless 26 
Earl N Lawless 6 
Everett T Lawless 4 3/12 
Ruby V Lawless 2 2/12 
John W Lawless 77  who is this?


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 04, 2009, 08:14:15 PM
somewhere I have a post about two brothers:  John and james lawless, one has a wife julia, and I think they were out of new york, but they were living somewhere in oregon..


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 04, 2009, 08:16:47 PM
now here is a julia lawless who died in josephine county also,

Oregon Death Index, 1903-98
about Julia B Lawless
Name: Lawless, Julia B  
County: Josephine  
Death Date: 14 Jun 1955
Certificate: 6703 
Spouse: Michael  

again no birthdate for her ugh.  her spouse is michael and we have harold michael in our lawless roofing line in grants pass and this is the same county.
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 04, 2009, 08:20:14 PM
here is nettie who married raymond lawless also dies in josephine county

Oregon Death Index, 1903-98
about Nettie Fra Lawless
Name: Lawless, Nettie Fra
County: Josephine 
Death Date: 22 Oct 1976
Certificate: 76-15811 
Age: 75 
Birth Date: Mar 1901  
Spouse: Raymon 

her birthdate is 1901, her husband raymond is probably a few years before her
our thomas mat lawless is born 1899. 
could raymond be the brother of thomas mat lawless?  could be.
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 04, 2009, 08:23:20 PM
raymond lawless, husband of nettie in previous post

he dies in jackson county oregon.  I have a bunch of info on the lawless who lived in jackson county.  my guess they are related to the ones in josephine county.  I think they are in central point in jackson county, I don't think that is too far from grants pass. let me look I might be wrong about that.

Oregon Death Index, 1903-98
about Raymond Mic Lawless
Name: Lawless, Raymond Mic  
County: Jackson 
Death Date: 28 Jul 1976
Certificate: 76-12581 
Age: 73 
Birth Date: Apr 1903  4 years younger than thomas mac lawless
Spouse: Nettie   
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 04, 2009, 08:24:42 PM
Oregon Death Index, 1903-98
about Robert L Lawless
Name: Lawless, Robert L  
County: Josephine   
Death Date: 31 Jul 1948
Certificate: 7939 
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 04, 2009, 08:26:43 PM
Oregon Death Index, 1903-98
about Roland Tho Lawless
Name: Lawless, Roland Tho  tho probably = thomas
County: Josephine   
Death Date: 22 Nov 1981
Certificate: 81-18658 
Age: 48 
Birth Date: 20 Jul 1933  
Spouse: Betty   

now the grandfather of CLL is james H W lawless married Rowland.  I wonder if this is where the first name of roland might be coming from.  just a thought
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 04, 2009, 08:33:08 PM
this is in roseburg oregon farther north than grants pass, but we have a gertrude lawless in something so making a note of this.  there was also a DICK lawless in washington CLL line, I think it was richard birdette lawless the paper up there refered to as "dick".  I wonder if this is him?  and I forget where gertrude lawless is, but she is somewhere LOL

United States Obituary Collection
about Robert L. Lawless
Name of Deceased: Robert L. Lawless  
Age at Death: 88 
Death Date: 30 May 2003
Obituary Date: 5 May 2005
Newspaper Title: News-Review, The 
Newspaper Location: Roseburg, OR, Us
Birth Date: 30 Aug 1914  
Locations Mentioned in Obituary: Winchester,
Jacksonville
Murrayville
ID
Franklin,
 
Other Persons Mentioned in Obituary: Leigh Ann
Frances
Gene Lawless
Laura Lonergan
Becky Lawless
Sharon Hossner
Ronald Lawless E.
Jack Lawless
Kelly Lawless
Terri Valstad
Nanny Lawless A. Howell
Blanche Thomas
Senta Cornelius
Sophia Zachary
Sister Marie Michael
Margie Constant
Michael Lawless A.
Linda Eilering
Gertrude Lawless
Dave Lawless
Tracy Lawless
Randy Lawless
Steve Lawless
Tom Lawless (Surviving Wife,
Edna Weder
Lisa Lawless
Tammy Zulauf
John Hawkins
Ed Lawless
Joni Bledsoe
Dick Lawless
Rita Crockett
 
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 04, 2009, 08:42:00 PM
notice that both nettie and raymond lawless who lived and died in oregon, got their ss #'s in cali.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Sister on June 04, 2009, 08:47:43 PM
Richard Birdette Lawless was born either in 1909 or 1910 died 1962.  Parents are James H. W. Lawless and Nancy Rowland -- their children George Webster 1862-1959 (father of CLL), John Mack 1893-1965, William Bryan (1897-1975), Ralph Devere (1902-1968) Agnes A., Bardette????, Richard Birdette, Mabel Pearl (1890-1959), and Zina Ellen(1895-1896).  I'm not sure who Bardette is, but a 1905ish birth would make sense.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Sister on June 05, 2009, 01:44:32 PM
There is a Julia Lynn Lawless, who I believe (as in not sure) is associated with Donald Thomas Lawless, treasurer of Lawless Roofing in Ore, wife Marlene.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 05, 2009, 05:04:55 PM
There is a Julia Lynn Lawless, who I believe (as in not sure) is associated with Donald Thomas Lawless, treasurer of Lawless Roofing in Ore, wife Marlene.

hmmm do you have anything else on her or how you found her, is she listed on something?


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 05, 2009, 05:07:59 PM
perhaps this is her

GRANTS PASS, OR
NEWBERG, OR
EUREKA, CA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, LLOYD LEWIS (Age 42)
LAWLESS, A L
LAWLESS, MICHAEL (Age 27)
 

GRANTS PASS, OR
EUREKA, CA

NEWBERG, OR

 Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, JULIA LYNN (Age 40)
LAWLESS, A L wonder who this is
LAWLESS, MICHAEL (Age 27)
 
cll also pastured a church in eureka


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 05, 2009, 05:26:46 PM
okay I saw this name the other day, now I have this so sticking it on here because I know it goes with someone.

Nevada Marriage Index, 1956-2005
about Walter Scott Lawless
Name: Walter Scott Lawless  
Gender: Male 
Residence state: Oregon  
Spouse: Natasha Caren Baumgardner  
Spouse residence state: Oregon 
Marriage Date: 31 Dec 1990
Marriage County: Washoe 
Recorded date: 7 Jan 1991
Recorded city: Reno 
Book: 896 
Page: 919 
Instrument number: D085833 

I also found a couple more children in the birth records, one is charles walter lawless.  more of the oregon earl n lawless roofing family, trying to find more connected names
 


ok here is a bunch of people who go with walter scott lawless

1950 REGINA GRANTS PASS, OR

 ROGUE RIVER, OR
GRANTS PASS, OR
BOTHELL, WA
REDMOND, WA
KIRKLAND, WA
BAY POINT, CA
SEAL BEACH, CA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, JANICE EVELYN (Age 64)
LAWLESS, LYNN MARIE (Age 38)
LAWLESS, TERESA EILEEN (Age 51)
LAWLESS, JEFFERY ROGER (Age 45)
LAWLESS, WALTER SCOTT (Age 44)
SIMONSON, NATASHA CAREN (Age 44)
LAWLESS, SCOTT

Possible Roommates / Associates:

REBELLO, PATRICIA ANN (Age 82)
LOOZEN, JOHN HENDRIK (Age 83)
VERBECK, LUPE C (Age 79)
HALGREN, CARL G (Age 74)



 TUKWILA, WA
MESA, AZ
VANCOUVER, WA
ROGUE RIVER, OR
KIRKLAND, WA
GRANTS PASS, OR
REDMOND, WA
WOODINVILLE, WA
BEND, OR
BAY POINT, CA
SEAL BEACH, CA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, LLOYD THOMAS (Age 64)
LAWLESS, LYNN MARIE (Age 38)
LAWLESS, JEFFERY ROGER (Age 45)
LAWLESS, JEFFERY R
LAWLESS, TERESA EILEEN (Age 51)
LAWLESS, WALTER SCOTT (Age 44)
SIMONSON, NATASHA CAREN (Age 44)
ENTRIKEN, DOROTHY R (Age 93)
HALGREN, NORMA J (Age 75)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

HIRSH, LINDA K (Age 60)
WOODRUFF, MARIAN K (Age 54)
COLBERT, TERI LYNN (Age 39)
KEOPRASEURT, BOUASONE (Age 38)
 


 BOTHELL, WA
EVERETT, WA
KIRKLAND, WA
GRANTS PASS, OR
HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA
COSTA MESA, CA
SANTA ANA, CA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, LLOYD THOMAS (Age 64)
LAWLESS, JANICE EVELYN (Age 64)
LAWLESS, WALTER SCOTT (Age 44)
SIMONSON, NATASHA CAREN (Age 44)
SHERMAN, WAYNE GARY (Age 38)
LAWLESS, SCOTT
SHERMAN, GRANT

Possible Roommates / Associates:

EMORY, TRACY LYNN (Age 39)
COOK, TIMOTHY G (Age 40)
GIX, JOHN STANLEY (Age 58)
ABDELBASET, SHARIF M (Age 35)
BUMGARDNER, RACHEL LYNN (Age 32)
NALLEY, LINDA SUEANN (Age 33)
COLLIER, CHRISTINA D (Age 31)
 


 GRANTS PASS, OR
PHOENIX, OR
LAS VEGAS, NV
SANTA ANA, CA
MEDFORD, OR
KILLEEN, TX

Possible Relatives:

MOORE ATKINS, WENDY L (Age 41)
FOLEY, PATRICK MICHAEL (Age 44)
DIPIETRO, CAROL H (Age 52)
WEICHERS, LESA MICHELLE (Age 42)
TAYLOR, JEREMY JASON (Age 38)
IRWIN, JAMIE ANN (Age 41)
TAYLOR, MATT

Possible Roommates / Associates:

KELLEY, SHIRLEY AGNESS (Age 66)
KELLEY, JAMES CURTIS (Age 43)
BUNES, KERRIE B (Age 39)
HOGAN, JAMES A (Age 45)
MILLER, GALE M (Age 38)
 


 GRANTS PASS, OR
CHOWCHILLA, CA
SILVERTON, OR

Possible Relatives:

LANCASTER, CHASITY LEANN (Age 35)
VERDEJA, COLUSA
FERGUSON, MARGARET A (Age 87)
LANCASTER, JACKIE DEANN (Age 33)
FERGUSON, GEORGE EDWARD (Age 62)
LANCASTER, TABATHA ANGEL (Age 21)
LANCASTER, TABATHA A

Possible Roommates / Associates:

FERGUSON, TONYA ANGEL (Age 37)
 


 JUNEAU, AK
GRANTS PASS, OR
BEND, OR
KISSIMMEE, FL
JACKSONVILLE, FL

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, JANICE EVELYN (Age 64)
LAWLESS, LLOYD THOMAS (Age 64)
LAWLESS, LYNN MARIE (Age 38)
SIMONSON, NATASHA CAREN (Age 44)
BAUMGARDNER, NATASHA C
LAWLESS, SCOTT
 


 LOOMIS, CA
INCLINE VILLAGE, NV
GRANTS PASS, OR
SACRAMENTO, CA
DAVIS, CA


Possible Relatives:

LANCASTER, TANYA A (Age 37)
FERGUSON, GEORGE E (Age 86)
FERGUSON, TONYA ANGEL (Age 37)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

KETCHINGMAN, GEORGE T (Age 73)


 KLAMATH FALLS, OR
VANCOUVER, WA
GRANTS PASS, OR
KAILUA KONA, HI
PORTLAND, OR

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, LLOYD THOMAS (Age 64)
LAWLESS, JANICE EVELYN (Age 64)
LAWLESS, LYNN MARIE (Age 38)
SIMONSON, RANDALL DEAN (Age 38)
LAWLESS, WALTER SCOTT (Age 44)
MCNURLIN, JOANN M (Age 58)
BAUMGARDNER, LISA M (Age 39)
ROBINSON, TIM GILBERT (Age 48)
BAUMGARDNER, DAVID JOHN (Age 53)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

DEXTER, ROBERT RAY (Age 54)
DEXTER, TONI JOANNE (Age 62)
 


 GRANTS PASS, OR
KENNEWICK, WA
SALEM, OR

Possible Relatives:

PONT, JOANNE (Age 60)
PONT, MARTIN L (Age 64)
DAVIS, ANGELA MARIE (Age 36)
HOGAN, JAMES
DUNES, BRENT (Age 37)
HOGAN, JAMES A (Age 44)
PONT, PHYLLIS L (Age 96)
BUNES, BRENT D (Age 37)
HOGAN, MATT

Possible Roommates / Associates:

TAYLOR, MICHELLE L (Age 34)
 

 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

COTTER, MARK ALLAN (Age 37)
COTTER, GOLDA RUTH (Age 63)
COTTER, RICHARD GLENN (Age 68)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

METCALF, DAVID EUGENE (Age 44)
HOPKINS, RAYMOND E (Age 47)



 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

COTTER, HENRY EVERETT (Age 71)
COTTER, MARK ALLAN (Age 37)
COTTER, RICHARD GLENN (Age 68)
COTTER, H

Possible Roommates / Associates:

METCALF, DAVID EUGENE (Age 44)
HOPKINS, RAYMOND E (Age 47)



 GRANTS PASS, OR
WOODINVILLE, WA
REDMOND, WA
KIRKLAND, WA


Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, JANICE EVELYN (Age 64)
ENTRIKEN, WALTER R
ENTRIKEN, SHARON J (Age 65)
ENTRIKEN, SHARON J (Age 65)
ENTRIKEN, WALTER RONALD (Age 67)
ENTRIKEN, W RONALD (Age 67)



 BOTHELL, WA
EVERETT, WA
GRANTS PASS, OR
KIRKLAND, WA
SANTA ANA, CA
COSTA MESA, CA

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, LYNN MARIE (Age 38)
SHERMAN, GRANT



 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, JANICE EVELYN (Age 64)
LAWLESS, LLOYD THOMAS (Age 64)
LAWLESS, LYNN MARIE (Age 38)
LAWLESS, WALTER SCOTT (Age 44)
SIMONSON, NATASHA CAREN (Age 44)


 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, LYNN MARIE (Age 38)
SHERMAN, WAYNE GARY (Age 38)
 


 GRANTS PASS, OR
COARSEGOLD, CA
SHORELINE, WA
SILVERTON, OR
ROGUE RIVER, OR
CLACKAMAS, OR
CHOWCHILLA, CA
SEATTLE, WA
CLOVIS, CA
EVERETT, WA

 Possible Relatives:

LANCASTER, TANYA A (Age 37)
FERGUSON, PAMELA KAY (Age 53)
FERGUSON, PAMELA
FERGUSON, TONYA ANGEL (Age 37)



 GRANTS PASS, OR
KENNEWICK, WA

Possible Relatives:

BUNES, KERRIE B (Age 39)
DUFFY, LISA RENEE (Age 44)
HOGAN, JEANNE
HOGAN, KERRI (Age 43)
HOGAN, KATHRYN (Age 51)
HOGAN, LEN T

Possible Roommates / Associates:

TAYLOR, MICHELLE L (Age 34)



 GRANTS PASS, OR
ROGUE RIVER, OR
SILVERTON, OR

Possible Relatives:

FERGUSON, MARGARET A (Age 87)
FERGUSON, GEORGE EDWARD (Age 62)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

LANCASTER, TANYA A (Age 37)




 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

LANCASTER, TANYA A (Age 37) 




Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 05, 2009, 06:00:12 PM
California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Lloyd Thomas Lawless
Name: Lloyd Thomas Lawless  
Birth Date: 8 Jul 1944
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Ornellas  
Birth County: Alameda   
______________________________

this must be a brother

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Micheal Wayne Lawless
Name: Micheal Wayne Lawless  
Birth Date: 16 Oct 1946
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Ornellas   
Birth County: Alameda   

____________________

anopther brother ?

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Craig A Lawless
Name: Craig A Lawless  
Birth Date: 25 Jan 1957
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Ornellas  
Birth County: Alameda   

____________________


 
 

 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 05, 2009, 06:48:06 PM
mark thomas lawless of the lawless grants pass roofing family
his mother is mary m sanchez

here is another lawless with a mother who is sanchez.  I don't know if this is mary m sanchez or not, but she is having this baby in orange county cali...this is where melissa lawless was born.

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Jonathan David Lawless
Name: Jonathan David Lawless
Birth Date: 22 Dec 1982
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Sanchez 
Birth County: Orange 
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Sister on June 05, 2009, 06:55:11 PM
1201 L GRANTS PASS, OR



 GLENDALE, OR
QUITMAN, TX
GRANTS PASS, OR
WOLF CREEK, OR

Possible Relatives:

DEUSON, GENE
DEUSON, VIKKI R (Age 40)
DEUSON, KIMBERLEE KAY (Age 37)
DEUSON, IRVING EUGENE (Age 65)



 CHINO, CA
GRANTS PASS, OR
SAINT PAUL, MN
MARYSVILLE, CA

Possible Relatives:

RAY, CHARLIE STEPHEN (Age 60)
SNYDER, STEPHEN (Age 59)
RAY, PAULA LYNN (Age 55)
SKILES, PETER (Age 32)
REIDELL, THOMAS A (Age 56)
ADAMS, LORRINA KAY (Age 46)
RAY, STEPHEN (Age 41)
REIDELL, DEBBIE
RAY, ALICIA ANNE (Age 32)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

LEISHMAN, DEBORAH ANNE (Age 55)
LEISHAM, DEBORAH A (Age 55)




 PACIFICA, CA
ORINDA, CA
FRESNO, CA
GRANTS PASS, OR
SUNNYVALE, CA
ROGUE RIVER, OR
ASHLAND, OR
LOS GATOS, CA
OAKLAND, CA

Possible Relatives:

HALL, JOHN ANDREW (Age 90)
HALL, JOHN LOY (Age 37)
WELLS, VICKI S (Age 41)
HALL, JOYCE L (Age 60)
HALL, RONALD L (Age 66)
BAKER, JOHN RAYMOND (Age 59)
MENDENHALL, ERIK ALLEN (Age 33)
HALL, R L
BAKER, JOEL B

Possible Roommates / Associates:

SMITH, VERNON R (Age 52)



SACRAMENTO, CA
REDDING, CA

GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

ARMENTA, DEBRA JOY (Age 54)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

WOLBER, DARWIN LEE (Age 66)
MOORE, ELAINE MARIE (Age 73)
MOORE, LESTER HARLEY (Age 77)
KING, DAVID H (Age 39)
MOORE, JEEFREY ELLIS (Age 53)



 GOLD HILL, OR
GRANTS PASS, OR
FORT BRAGG, NC
SPRING LAKE, NC
COLORADO SPRINGS, CO
RED SPRINGS, NC
WHITE CITY, OR
EUGENE, OR

Possible Relatives:

KNIFONG, TARA C
KNIFONG, COLLEEN (Age 48)
KNIFONG, STEPHANIE GAY (Age 36)
KNIFONG, ANNA M (Age 39)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

CENTENO, RAUL HUMBERTO (Age 40)
CENTENO, ENEIDA L (Age 40)
FAIN, CHRISTOPHER R (Age 51)
FAIN, VALERIE LYNN (Age 47)
GOOCH, JEFFERY ALLAN (Age 36)
RIVERA, ALEJANDRO MANUEL (Age 35)
SMITH, KRISTOPHER DANIEL (Age 33)



 GRANTS PASS, OR
MEDFORD, OR

 Possible Relatives:

WOLBER, JON DARWIN (Age 38)
PITTSLEY, TERESA LEE (Age 40)
WOLBER, JANICE OUIDA (Age 64)
WOLBER, TRUST

Possible Roommates / Associates:

REEL, JOY FAYE (Age 75)
PITTSLEY, SEAN C (Age 41)
MOORE, LESTER HARLEY (Age 77)
MOORE, ELAINE MARIE (Age 73)
KING, DAVID H (Age 39)
MOORE, JEEFREY ELLIS (Age 53)



 CENTRAL POINT, OR
OLYMPIA, WA
GRANTS PASS, OR
MEDFORD, OR

Possible Relatives:

WHITE, PAUL TIMOTHY (Age 46)
WHITE, LAURA GRACEPETERSON (Age 46)
KINGSLIEN, RONALD WILLIAM (Age 46)
WILDEY, MACHEAL KIMBERLY (Age 45)
FURLANO, JERRY LYNN (Age 67)
FURLANO, BOBBY EARLINE (Age 62)
FURIANO, BOBBIE E
FURLANO, LARRY
JENSON, VICTORIA DEANN (Age 44)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

MITCHELL, JAMES M (Age 105)
MITCHELL, RUBY H (Age 92)

WILDEY, JOHN ALLEN (Age 45)
WILDEY, MACHEAL KIMBERLY (Age 45)


 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

SELLS, LEANN GAIL (Age 35)
LAWLESS, BEVERLY JEAN (Age 66)
LAWLESS, LORI LYNN (Age 39)
LAWLESS, GRACE M (Age 105) grace mitchell wife of thomas mat lawless
LAWLESS, LORI L (Age 39)
LAWLESS, MARLENE wife of donald
LAWLESS, DONALD donald thomas lawless



 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, EVERETT THOMAS (Age 83) this age is wrong son of thomas mat Lawless & grace mitchell
LAWLESS, HAROLD MICHAEL (Age 68) son of thomas mat Lawless & grace mitchell
LAWLESS, EVA T (Age 87)
LAWLESS, LORI L (Age 39)
LAWLESS, MARLENE wife of donald
LAWLESS, DONALD  donald thomas lawless



 GRANTS PASS, OR

 Possible Relatives:

GRUBER ODUANE, KAREN (Age 65)
ODUANE, DORALEE (Age 45)
ODUANE, JAMES IRVIN (Age 62)
DUANE, RORY O
ODUANE, ROBERT JAMES (Age 27)
ODUANE, RORY ALLEN (Age 45)
DUANE, VICKIE L (Age 41)
DUANEI, JAMES I (Age 62)
DUANE, JAMES O (Age 62)



 BURIEN, WA
GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

MOORE, LESTER HARLEY (Age 77)
MOORE, JEEFREY ELLIS (Age 53)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

REEL, JOY FAYE (Age 75)
WOLBER, DARWIN LEE (Age 66)
KING, DAVID H (Age 39)



 BURIEN, WA
SEAHURST, WA
GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

MOORE, ELAINE MARIE (Age 73)
MOORE, JEEFREY ELLIS (Age 53)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

REEL, JOY FAYE (Age 75)
WOLBER, DARWIN LEE (Age 66)
KING, DAVID H (Age 39)



 GRANTS PASS, OR
QUITMAN, TX

Possible Relatives:

DEUSON, GENE
DEUSON, JANICE RHEA (Age 60)
DEUSON, VIKKI R (Age 40)
DEUSON, IRVING EUGENE (Age 65)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

CALLAHAN BAINUM, CAREL (Age 62)
BAINUM, CAREL C (Age 62)



 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

KNIFONG, STEVEN GRANT (Age 39)



 GRANTS PASS, OR
CENTRAL POINT, OR
MEDFORD, OR

Possible Relatives:

KINGSLIEN, VICTORIA DEANN (Age 44)
WILDEY, MACHEAL KIMBERLY (Age 45)
SWEARINGEN, WINIFRED M (Age 36)
JENSON, STEVEN GLENN (Age 47)




 CRESWELL, OR
SPRINGFIELD, OR
EUGENE, OR
GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

REEL, KERTHEL BEVERLY (Age 83)
REEL, KATIE BEVERLY
REEL, KERTHEL E (Age 85)




 GRANTS PASS, OR
MEDFORD, OR
BEND, OR
ESTACADA, OR

Possible Relatives:

MOORE, PEGGY PATRICIA (Age 54)
LEAVENS, DEBRA JEAN (Age 52)
MOORE, LESTER HARLEY (Age 77)
MOORE, DEBBY J
MOORE, ELAINE MARIE (Age 73)
MOORE, JOSHUA REUBEN (Age 33)
MOORE, Y P

Possible Roommates / Associates:

GILLILAND, RICHARD LEE (Age 55)
REEL, JOY FAYE (Age 75)
BRADFIELD, JAMES J (Age 33)
WOLBER, DARWIN LEE (Age 66)
BENNETT, CAROLYN JEAN (Age 59)
LEAVENS, JOHN DARRELL (Age 59)
GILLILAND, RENE L (Age 29)
KING, DAVID H (Age 39)




 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

ODUANE, BARBARA GRACE (Age 66)
ODUANE, JAMES IRVIN (Age 62)
DUANEI, JAMES I (Age 62)
ODUANE, JAMES I (Age 62)




 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

GRUBERODUANE, KAREN (Age 65)
ODUANE, BARBARA GRACE (Age 66)
DUANE, VICKIE L (Age 41)
ODUANE, RONNIE M (Age 53)
ODUANE, L

Possible Roommates / Associates:

ODUANE, JAMES IRVIN (Age 63)
DUANEI, JAMES I (Age 63)



 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, GRACE M (Age 105)
LAWLESS, HAROLD MICHAEL (Age 68)
LAWLESS, MARLENE


 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

LAWLESS, HAROLD MICHAEL (Age 68)
LAWLESS, GRACE M (Age 105)
LAWLESS, DONALD 

family of Donald Thomas Lawless, treasurer of Lawless Roofing, OR
son Jeffrey Robert, daughter, Lynne Marie, et a.
Lewis E. has Craig A.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 05, 2009, 06:55:41 PM
I hate posting all of this stuff, but I know the answers are here in this mess.  It is just a matter of one of us seeing the right name and remembering who it hooks to.  Its hard to keep them all in our memories.  but if they are out here, maybe we will see it.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Sister on June 05, 2009, 07:08:42 PM
The connection will be made -- I know it!!!!
I don't have a data base or search thing (whatever it's called), but I have made some handwritten notes and at least have learned how to "quote" -- none of my research, don't ya know.  Part of my theory learned way back when, I don't need to "know" the answer, I just need to "know" where to look.
You ask, I'll look (over what lots of people have done). :smt024


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on June 05, 2009, 11:14:22 PM
Hey Sister
You know what?
You ROCK!!!!!
And We're Rollin....
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Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Sister on June 06, 2009, 12:03:11 AM
How precious!  Thanks for the smile.
Headed to nighty, nighty and my dream land.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 06, 2009, 01:19:21 AM
Name: Cheryl A Bacon  
Birth Date: Jul 1960
Address: 415 Mina Ln, Grants Pass, Oregon 97526-0901 (1993)
[1671 Webster Rd, Grants Pass, Oregon 97526-0801 (1982)]


415 MINA GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

 GEORGE'S ROGUE VALLEY INSULATION COMPANY
 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

BACON, CHERYL ANN (Age 48)
BACON, FREDDIE JOE (Age 79)
BACON, RENA RAE (Age 73)
BACON, BECKY
BACON, TYLER C

Possible Roommates / Associates:

DANKO, GEORGE IMRE (Age 43)
WRIGHT, ESTALEEN WYNN (Age 80)
MOUNCE, NAOMI CHLOE (Age 32)
DANIELS, VIVIAN NADINE (Age 80)
IVY, BONNIE LUCILLE (Age 78)




 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

BACON, RICHARD GEORGE (Age 52)
BACON, TYLER C




 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

CHILDERS, JOE DALE (Age 61)
CHILDERS, MISTY
CHILDERS, BOBBY DALE (Age 38)
CHILDERS, TERESA EARLENE (Age 58)



 GRANTS PASS, OR

1671 WEBSTER GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives   


Possible Employment / Business Associations:

 GEORGE'S ROGUE VALLEY INSULATION COMPANY
 


 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

BACON, CHERYL ANN (Age 48)
BACON, FREDDIE JOE (Age 79)
BACON, RENA RAE (Age 73)
BACON, BECKY
BACON, TYLER C

Possible Roommates / Associates:

DANKO, GEORGE IMRE (Age 43)
WRIGHT, ESTALEEN WYNN (Age 80)
MOUNCE, NAOMI CHLOE (Age 32)
DANIELS, VIVIAN NADINE (Age 80)
IVY, BONNIE LUCILLE (Age 78)
 


 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

BACON, RICHARD GEORGE (Age 52)
BACON, TYLER C 






Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 06, 2009, 01:25:39 AM
Nevada Marriage Index, 1956-2005
about Richard G Bacon
Name: Richard G Bacon  richard george bacon
Gender: Male 
Residence state: Oregon   
Spouse: Cheryl A Byrd  this is cheryl a bacon,
Spouse residence state: Oregon 
Marriage Date: 12 Oct 1980
Marriage city: Reno 
Officiant type: Religious celebrant 
Recorded date: 21 Oct 1980
Recorded city: Reno 
Book: 725- 
Page: 113 2 
Instrument number: 7853 
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 06, 2009, 01:35:46 AM
this MIGHT be her, not sure

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Cheryl A Byrd
Name: Cheryl A Byrd
Birth Date: 31 Jan 1961
Gender: Female 
Mother's Maiden Name: Brown 
Birth County: Madera   

someone else was born in madera I forget who it was.
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 06, 2009, 01:48:11 AM
if that is her above this must be her sister
California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Wynona Byrd
Name: Wynona Byrd
Birth Date: 26 Jul 1959
Gender: Female 
Mother's Maiden Name: Brown 
Birth County: Madera 
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Sister on June 06, 2009, 01:57:25 AM
could cheryl bacon be cheryl gomes, I need to look

GOMES, CHERYL A      MCRDCVG -09-0000657      DF      04/13/2009
                   
   All Parties      Case No      Party      Date
   GOMES, CHERYL A      MCRDCVG -09-0000657      DF      04/13/2009
   TARGET NATIONAL BANK      MCRDCVG -09-0000657      PL      04/13/2009

I don't know.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 06, 2009, 01:59:39 AM
cheryl a gomes in redding is 5 yrs younger than cheryl a bacon nee byrd in grants pass oregon.  it does not look like they are the same person

GOMES, CHERYL ANN (Age 43)

Associated names:

 GOMES, HERYL A
  REDDING, CA
TULELAKE, CA
CHICO, CA

 Possible Relatives:

GOMES, JACKSON CAROL (Age 46)
GOMES, W
GOMES, JUNE E (Age 46)
GOMES, GLENN A (Age 83)
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Sister on June 06, 2009, 02:03:17 AM
odd that Cheryl Bacon would be listed at CLL's church and the Lawless business in OR


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Tracygirl on June 06, 2009, 03:07:35 AM
odd that Cheryl Bacon would be listed at CLL's church and the Lawless business in OR

maybe here is your link or a part of the link  but how does she link? that is the question. Who is she????


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 06, 2009, 01:15:39 PM
odd that Cheryl Bacon would be listed at CLL's church and the Lawless business in OR

hi Sister, if you can show me where she is hooked up to the CLL church, I can go from there to figure out what she is doing with them. 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Sister on June 06, 2009, 02:32:34 PM
working on it now.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Sister on June 06, 2009, 03:52:17 PM
I KNOW Cheryl is connected to both the business and the church.  Just can't find it and have read more than 1,000 posts.  However, in the process, I marked all the accounts of Lawless people being lawless.  There are more than 40 references (some are duplicates).  Also making a list of every reference to the business and the church.
We'll get these suckers yet (thank you Lord).
Probably won't be back on for a while.  This has become a passion for me for many reasons.  Justice for Sandra!!!


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Brenda in KY on June 06, 2009, 09:59:28 PM
this MIGHT be her, not sure

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Cheryl A Byrd
Name: Cheryl A Byrd
Birth Date: 31 Jan 1961
Gender: Female 
Mother's Maiden Name: Brown 
Birth County: Madera   

someone else was born in madera I forget who it was.
 


Here's a little more info about Cheryl Byrd Bacon from Classmates.....


   
Cheryl Bacon (Byrd)
Grants Pass High School
Grants pass, OR
Class of 1978
Biography: Life Divorced, 3 children (1 with current partner), living with a great guy (marria... read more

Life
Divorced, 3 children (1 with current partner), living with a great guy (marriage now scares me), been with the same company for 18 years as their accountant, enjoying life, family and friends. Like to dance, drink with friends, go to the sand dunes and ride hard. Kick it by the river or walk along the beach at night. Fun is getting out of Grants Pass in the motorhome and not really knowing where we are going or what we are doing. Make life simple!

Here's her public pic from Classmates too...

http://www.classmates.com/directory/public/memberprofile/list.htm?regId=7067317759



Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Sister on June 06, 2009, 10:07:49 PM
Brenda,
If you have any kind of search base, could you check to see if a Cheryl A. Bacon was the resident for the Clover Baptist Church, where Melissa Huckaby's grandfather, Clifford Lane Lawless is the pastor.
If not, I'll search tomorrow.
Blessings.
 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Brenda in KY on June 06, 2009, 10:15:04 PM
Brenda,
If you have any kind of search base, could you check to see if a Cheryl A. Bacon was the resident for the Clover Baptist Church, where Melissa Huckaby's grandfather, Clifford Lane Lawless is the pastor.
If not, I'll search tomorrow.
Blessings.
 ::MonkeyAngel::

I remember seeing her name connected to the church.....I'm searching now to find it....


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 06, 2009, 10:49:06 PM
I ran into some bacons over in kansas/oklahoma just a bit ago with the gary d lawless/ something line haha, let me go get those names and see if any are with cheryl ann bacon / nee byrd.

thanks for that info brenda, it confirmed cherly ann bacon is nee byrd.  good, so we have her and her sister wynona byrd.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 06, 2009, 10:52:50 PM
ok this is my post from the duggan king lawless thread

this is gary d lawless born 1932 in wichita kansas, the one with gary w lawless etc. 

so I need to get some time and see if these bacons are connected to cheryl ann bacon/nee byrd. 
_______________________________________
hmmm this is interesting. at the gary d lawless apache address is:(wichita kansas)
remember cheryl bacon with the oregon grants pass lawless roofing family

so we will have to see if these are connected to cheryl bacon of the lawless roofing line.  gee

Address:   821 APACHE DR
WICHITA, KS 67207-2119

WICHITA, KS

Possible Relatives:

BACON, SUSAN L (Age 52)
BACON, MATTHEW PHILLIP (Age 28)
BACON, PHIL (Age 57)
BACON, DUSTIN (Age 27)
 

 WICHITA, KS

Possible Relatives:

BACON, ROBERT P (Age 57)
BACON, MATTHEW PHILLIP (Age 28)
BACON, ROBERT
BACON, DUSTIN (Age 27)
BACON, PHIL (Age 57) 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 06, 2009, 10:54:31 PM
ok this is my post from the duggan king lawless thread

this is gary d lawless born 1932 in wichita kansas, the one with gary w lawless etc. 

so I need to get some time and see if these bacons are connected to cheryl ann bacon/nee byrd. 
_______________________________________
hmmm this is interesting. at the gary d lawless apache address is:(wichita kansas)
remember cheryl bacon with the oregon grants pass lawless roofing family

so we will have to see if these are connected to cheryl bacon of the lawless roofing line.  gee

Address:   821 APACHE DR
WICHITA, KS 67207-2119

WICHITA, KS

Possible Relatives:

BACON, SUSAN L (Age 52)
BACON, MATTHEW PHILLIP (Age 28)
BACON, PHIL (Age 57)
BACON, DUSTIN (Age 27)
 

 WICHITA, KS

Possible Relatives:

BACON, ROBERT P (Age 57)
BACON, MATTHEW PHILLIP (Age 28)
BACON, ROBERT
BACON, DUSTIN (Age 27)
BACON, PHIL (Age 57) 



I am quoting this and adding this other info all in the same post so it is easy to compare

Name: Cheryl A Bacon
Birth Date: Jul 1960
Address: 415 Mina Ln, Grants Pass, Oregon 97526-0901 (1993)
[1671 Webster Rd, Grants Pass, Oregon 97526-0801 (1982)]


415 MINA GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Employment / Business Associations:

 GEORGE'S ROGUE VALLEY INSULATION COMPANY
 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

BACON, CHERYL ANN (Age 48)
BACON, FREDDIE JOE (Age 79)
BACON, RENA RAE (Age 73)
BACON, BECKY
BACON, TYLER C

Possible Roommates / Associates:

DANKO, GEORGE IMRE (Age 43)
WRIGHT, ESTALEEN WYNN (Age 80)
MOUNCE, NAOMI CHLOE (Age 32)
DANIELS, VIVIAN NADINE (Age 80)
IVY, BONNIE LUCILLE (Age 78)




 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

BACON, RICHARD GEORGE (Age 52)
BACON, TYLER C




 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

CHILDERS, JOE DALE (Age 61)
CHILDERS, MISTY
CHILDERS, BOBBY DALE (Age 38)
CHILDERS, TERESA EARLENE (Age 58)



 GRANTS PASS, OR

1671 WEBSTER GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives   


Possible Employment / Business Associations:

 GEORGE'S ROGUE VALLEY INSULATION COMPANY
 


 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

BACON, CHERYL ANN (Age 48)
BACON, FREDDIE JOE (Age 79)
BACON, RENA RAE (Age 73)
BACON, BECKY
BACON, TYLER C

Possible Roommates / Associates:

DANKO, GEORGE IMRE (Age 43)
WRIGHT, ESTALEEN WYNN (Age 80)
MOUNCE, NAOMI CHLOE (Age 32)
DANIELS, VIVIAN NADINE (Age 80)
IVY, BONNIE LUCILLE (Age 78)
 


 GRANTS PASS, OR

Possible Relatives:

BACON, RICHARD GEORGE (Age 52)
BACON, TYLER C 





Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 06, 2009, 11:27:48 PM
here is another bacon name.  this one is at an address where anna leona lawless nee boyles was living in corning cali tehema county.  she is born 1901 in  oklahoma, got ss # in kansas, lived in corning, died in monterey.  she might be gary d lawless missing mother.  listed at her address in corning is this person with middle name BACON

Name: Anne L Lawless
Address: 651 Toomes #20, Corning, California 96021-0601 (1981)
[1550 Kaufman St, Corning, California 96021-0701 (1980)]

hmmm no lawless listed there on toomes, but there is:
TURNIER, LAURA BACON (Age 70)
remember cheryl ann bacon on the lawless roofing in oregon line


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: lonemonkey on June 07, 2009, 12:04:09 AM
Hi Sister
I mentioned this in another thread... ::MonkeyRoll::
I am wondering if you are thinking of the Cheryl listed as an Associate/Roommate of CLL at the MBP...
Her name is Cheryl with a different surname...something like Chammisa.
Anyway, I wonder if they are the same person?!
  Lm


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: Sister on June 07, 2009, 12:07:37 AM
Thanks for looking.  I need to take a few days away from this.  Sometimes stepping back is good.  I know we're close, but it is beginning to be difficult when I know the info is in here and I just can't find it.
Thanks everyone, blessings.
 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: love4ever on June 25, 2009, 10:57:54 PM
Through research I keep seeing a Fred Silva who maybe has a sister Beverly Lawless from Grants pass Oregon..Has anyone else seen this? I am not going to cite the site because it is an obit and you have to pay...


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 25, 2009, 11:47:02 PM
Through research I keep seeing a Fred Silva who maybe has a sister Beverly Lawless from Grants pass Oregon..Has anyone else seen this? I am not going to cite the site because it is an obit and you have to pay...

I have a beverly jean lawless 66 in grants pass with harold lawless


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 25, 2009, 11:58:39 PM
Beveryly Jean Lawless in grants pass is beverly Jean Silva married Harold Michael lawless of the oregan lawless line.

she was born nov 22 1942 in Sonoma Cali.  Her mother's nee name is Domenici


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 26, 2009, 12:05:35 AM
 
Name: Paul Clifford Silva
Social Security #: xxxxxx
Sex: MALE 
Birth Date: 23 Oct 1912
Birthplace: California 
Death Date: 3 Sep 1996
Death Place: Sonoma 
Mother's Maiden Name: Domenici 



Name:  Paul Clifford Silva
Mother:  Domenici
Birth:  23 Oct 1912 - California
Death:  3 Sep 1996 - Sonoma

Name: Silva
Birth Date: 23 Oct 1912
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Domenici 
Birth County: Sonoma 



Name:  Silva
Mother:  Domenici
Birth:  23 Oct 1912 - Sonoma, California
 
Name: John J Silva
Birth Date: 4 Sep 1914
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Domenici 
Birth County: Sonoma 

 

Name:  John J Silva
Mother:  Domenici
Birth:  4 Sep 1914 - Sonoma, California
 
 Name: Fredrick A Silva  
Birth Date: 18 Jun 1917
Gender: Male 
Mother's Maiden Name: Domenici 
Birth County: Sonoma 



Name:  Fredrick A Silva
Mother:  Domenici
Birth:  18 Jun 1917 - Sonoma, California

 
 
Name:  Vernon G Silva
Mother:  Domenici
Birth:  28 Oct 1921 - Sonoma, California

 
 
Name:  Beverly Jean Silva married oregon lawless harold michael lawless
Mother:  Domenici
Birth:  22 Nov 1942 - Sonoma, California



 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 26, 2009, 12:22:26 AM
cheryl ann bacon with the oregon lawless line is cheryl ann byrd

Nevada Marriage Index, 1956-2005
about Richard G Bacon
Name: Richard G Bacon
Gender: Male 
Residence State: Oregon 
Spouse: Cheryl A Byrd
Spouse residence state: Oregon 
Marriage Date: 12 Oct 1980
Marriage City: Reno 
Officiant type: Religious celebrant 
Recorded Date: 21 Oct 1980
Recorded city: Reno 
Book: 725- 
Page: 113 2 
Instrument number: 7853 
 


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 26, 2009, 12:23:38 AM
another one of them married a sanchez, we have someone else somewhere with sanchez, all these dairy people


up in the oregon lawlessline we have joes bros inc, what is that, did we figure that out before?  was that a dairy?


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: love4ever on June 26, 2009, 12:53:12 AM
Beveryly Jean Lawless in grants pass is beverly Jean Silva married Harold Michael lawless of the oregan lawless line.

she was born nov 22 1942 in Sonoma Cali.  Her mother's nee name is Domenici

Ok thank you DD...All I kept seeing was this...LOL


FRED SILVA
$2.95 - Santa Rosa Press Democrat - NewsBank - Feb 26, 1997
Fred Silva, a longtime Montgomery Village butcher who also sharpened ... Vern Silva of Prescott Valley, Ariz.; sister, Beverly Lawless of Grants Pass, Ore.; ...
All 2 related - Related web pages


And then when I clicked the link I would get this...without Beverly Lawless name..LOL

FRED SILVA
Article 1 of 1 found (1)
Article ID: 9702260110
Published on February 26, 1997

Fred Silva, a longtime Montgomery Village butcher who also sharpened knives for his customers, died Feb. 14 at a Santa Rosa hospital of congestive heart failure. He was 79.

Silva began working at cleanup and meat cutting as a 12-year-old at the shop of his father, John Silva, on Wilson Street in Santa Rosa.

His wife, Ruth Silva of Santa Rosa, said he operated Silva's Quality Meats as one of the first businesses in the new Montgomery Village Shopping Center in the 1950s. He

Snipped:
http://news.google.com/archivesearch?um=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=Fred+Silva+Grants+pass&cf=all (http://news.google.com/archivesearch?um=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=Fred+Silva+Grants+pass&cf=all)

http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=SA&p_theme=sa&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EAFED85B3931A30&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM (http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=SA&p_theme=sa&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EAFED85B3931A30&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 26, 2009, 01:10:58 AM
Beveryly Jean Lawless in grants pass is beverly Jean Silva married Harold Michael lawless of the oregan lawless line.

she was born nov 22 1942 in Sonoma Cali.  Her mother's nee name is Domenici

Ok thank you DD...All I kept seeing was this...LOL


FRED SILVA
$2.95 - Santa Rosa Press Democrat - NewsBank - Feb 26, 1997
Fred Silva, a longtime Montgomery Village butcher who also sharpened ... Vern Silva of Prescott Valley, Ariz.; sister, Beverly Lawless of Grants Pass, Ore.; ...
All 2 related - Related web pages


And then when I clicked the link I would get this...without Beverly Lawless name..LOL

FRED SILVA
Article 1 of 1 found (1)
Article ID: 9702260110
Published on February 26, 1997

Fred Silva, a longtime Montgomery Village butcher who also sharpened knives for his customers, died Feb. 14 at a Santa Rosa hospital of congestive heart failure. He was 79.

Silva began working at cleanup and meat cutting as a 12-year-old at the shop of his father, John Silva, on Wilson Street in Santa Rosa.

His wife, Ruth Silva of Santa Rosa, said he operated Silva's Quality Meats as one of the first businesses in the new Montgomery Village Shopping Center in the 1950s. He

Snipped:
http://news.google.com/archivesearch?um=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=Fred+Silva+Grants+pass&cf=all (http://news.google.com/archivesearch?um=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=Fred+Silva+Grants+pass&cf=all)

http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=SA&p_theme=sa&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EAFED85B3931A30&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM (http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=SA&p_theme=sa&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EAFED85B3931A30&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM)


hmmmm  so ruth must be domenici?   I wonder if all the births a few posts back with the mother domenici are all siblings.  so they are all in sonoma county, and he is in the hospital in santa rosa, this is close to napa.  now how does harold michael lawless of the oregon lawless line meet beverly jean silva?  and take a look at that first child who is a silva with mother demenici in sonoma...paul clifford, the two names of CLL and his brother.  this is getting interesting. 

lets keep digginng.


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: love4ever on June 26, 2009, 01:18:06 AM
I love digging DD, can you tell??..lol..I like to find the strange unique stuff ::MonkeyCool::  I am on it when I have time. My college classes are killin me!!! ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: love4ever on June 26, 2009, 01:35:34 AM
This is a list of Livestock ID's Brand Masters, You will see....

Bacchetti, Lino & Mario
Silva
18700 S Bacchetti Road
Tracy CA 95376

A 085167


Lawless, Donald T
P O Box 1328
Grants Pass OR 97526

A 156001

DD, since my mind wanders as does my research, have we established that there is a family connection by marriage, between the Silvas in Tracy and Lawless (anywhere..lol)??


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: love4ever on June 26, 2009, 01:37:09 AM
This is a list of Livestock ID's Brand Masters, You will see....

Bacchetti, Lino & Mario
Silva
18700 S Bacchetti Road
Tracy CA 95376

A 085167


Lawless, Donald T
P O Box 1328
Grants Pass OR 97526

A 156001

DD, since my mind wanders as does my research, have we established that there is a family connection by marriage, between the Silvas in Tracy and Lawless (anywhere..lol)??

OH mY!!!

Snipped:
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:5-vDZPhuFHcJ:www.cdfa.ca.gov/AHFSS/Livestock_ID/pdfs/2002%2520Brand%2520Book/L%2520%2520Pages%2520462-496.pdf+Fred+Silva+Harold+Lawless+Ann+Silva+Tracy+Tracy+California&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a (http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:5-vDZPhuFHcJ:www.cdfa.ca.gov/AHFSS/Livestock_ID/pdfs/2002%2520Brand%2520Book/L%2520%2520Pages%2520462-496.pdf+Fred+Silva+Harold+Lawless+Ann+Silva+Tracy+Tracy+California&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a)


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 26, 2009, 01:46:05 AM
This is a list of Livestock ID's Brand Masters, You will see....

Bacchetti, Lino & Mario
Silva
18700 S Bacchetti Road
Tracy CA 95376

A 085167


Lawless, Donald T
P O Box 1328
Grants Pass OR 97526

A 156001

DD, since my mind wanders as does my research, have we established that there is a family connection by marriage, between the Silvas in Tracy and Lawless (anywhere..lol)??

the only possible connection we have with silva in tracy so far is that ann silva is at the bacchetti dairy, and almer gomes was friends with bacchetti, and almers son or was it nephew etc, lives across the street from cll and melissa in the MHP. 


now we have beverly jean silva married to harold michael lawless of the oregon lawless line who has the LAWLESS ROOFING and the cattle company.  harold is part of the thomas mat lawless line with grace mitchell, everett lawless and donald thomas lawless all up in grants pass oregon and connected to redding califor.
________________________
Social Security Death Index
about Paul C. Silva
Name: Paul C. Silva
SSN: 555-10-7191 
Last Residence: 94559  Napa, Napa, California, United States of America
Born: 23 Oct 1912
Died: 3 Sep 1996
State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951)
 
and here is paul clifford silva who has the domenici mother, same as beverly jean silva/lawless has, ad he dies in napa. 

napa is where marylin tieken is born marries gary d lawless ad where one of the ids or two of the kids are born. 


so how did haralod michael lawless of the grants pass or line meet beveryly jean silva in napa?

could gary d lawelss father of timothy etc be part of the harold lawless oregon line?


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: love4ever on June 26, 2009, 01:55:27 AM
This is a list of Livestock ID's Brand Masters, You will see....

Bacchetti, Lino & Mario
Silva
18700 S Bacchetti Road
Tracy CA 95376

A 085167


Lawless, Donald T
P O Box 1328
Grants Pass OR 97526

A 156001

DD, since my mind wanders as does my research, have we established that there is a family connection by marriage, between the Silvas in Tracy and Lawless (anywhere..lol)??

the only possible connection we have with silva in tracy so far is that ann silva is at the bacchetti dairy, and almer gomes was friends with bacchetti, and almers son or was it nephew etc, lives across the street from cll and melissa in the MHP. 


now we have beverly jean silva married to harold michael lawless of the oregon lawless line who has the LAWLESS ROOFING and the cattle company.  harold is part of the thomas mat lawless line with grace mitchell, everett lawless and donald thomas lawless all up in grants pass oregon and connected to redding califor.
________________________
Social Security Death Index
about Paul C. Silva
Name: Paul C. Silva
SSN: 555-10-7191 
Last Residence: 94559  Napa, Napa, California, United States of America
Born: 23 Oct 1912
Died: 3 Sep 1996
State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951)
 
and here is paul clifford silva who has the domenici mother, same as beverly jean silva/lawless has, ad he dies in napa. 

napa is where marylin tieken is born marries gary d lawless ad where one of the ids or two of the kids are born. 


so how did haralod michael lawless of the grants pass or line meet beveryly jean silva in napa?

could gary d lawelss father of timothy etc be part of the harold lawless oregon line?


Another funny DD, I get a kick outta this...when you say..."could so and so be part of so and so"..I think OMG here we go again, more research...LOL...but thank you for the confirmation, it helps me to know what it is I need to look for!!!  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 26, 2009, 01:59:28 AM
there is a gary steven lawless in the grants pass line (GP LINE)
but he is way too young, but it least they have a gary name.  I will keep looking


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: love4ever on June 26, 2009, 02:02:55 AM
there is a gary steven lawless in the grants pass line (GP LINE)
but he is way too young, but it least they have a gary name.  I will keep looking

So cute!! At least they have a Gary..lol
LOL..I know you are being serious DD, I am sorry...I think I have the giggles tonight..Thats a good thing tho, right??? ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: The California/Oregon Lawless Family Connection
Post by: doubledecker on June 26, 2009, 02:31:10 AM
there is a gary steven lawless in the grants pass line (GP LINE)
but he is way too young, but it least they have a gary name.  I will keep looking

So cute!! At least they have a Gary..lol
LOL..I know you are being serious DD, I am sorry...I think I have the giggles tonight..Thats a good thing tho, right??? ::MonkeyAngel::

this stuff will drive you nuts if you don't find humor in it all.  I'm trying to figure out how harold michael lawless met someone in sonoma county cali.  he must have some ties there?  maybe relatives or maybe he was in the navy or something? her silva family seems to stay there.