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Title: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 - 8/30/09
Post by: MuffyBee on June 26, 2009, 11:07:43 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing55.png)


Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 06, 2009, 01:26:45 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 06, 2009, 01:26:58 PM
YAY..... ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4::   we made it.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Leroy on August 06, 2009, 01:27:18 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 06, 2009, 01:30:04 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on August 06, 2009, 01:35:30 PM
 ::MonkeyWaa::   My puter froze up, so I couldn't      ::MonkeySkate::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 06, 2009, 01:41:18 PM
How long will it take Misty to file charges on her dad and brother? She will back Ron, she is not going to back her family, imo.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Sassycat on August 06, 2009, 01:44:39 PM
  ::MonkeyAngel::    ::MonkeyAngel::    Thinking of you Haleigh.    ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 06, 2009, 01:44:55 PM
How long will it take Misty to file charges on her dad and brother? She will back Ron, she is not going to back her family, imo.
I dont think Misty can file any charges, I think since Ronald already had thats the end of it.........I can bet you that if they check the phone records it will prove that Misty did call her family to come get her.....then lied because Ronald was there and when they called back out of concern, she told the, not to come ....everything was fine.....I wonder what is next.....something will certainly come down because of all this...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Sassycat on August 06, 2009, 01:46:30 PM
How long will it take Misty to file charges on her dad and brother? She will back Ron, she is not going to back her family, imo.

I hope nothing bad happens when he is released.    ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 06, 2009, 02:06:07 PM
How long will it take Misty to file charges on her dad and brother? She will back Ron, she is not going to back her family, imo.

I hope nothing bad happens when he is released.    ::MonkeyNoNo::
Me too  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 06, 2009, 02:11:16 PM
How long will it take Misty to file charges on her dad and brother? She will back Ron, she is not going to back her family, imo.
I dont think Misty can file any charges, I think since Ronald already had thats the end of it.........I can bet you that if they check the phone records it will prove that Misty did call her family to come get her.....then lied because Ronald was there and when they called back out of concern, she told the, not to come ....everything was fine.....I wonder what is next.....something will certainly come down because of all this...
Yes, and I hope one of the things is Jr being put in a safer home, but I doubt it.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 06, 2009, 02:41:16 PM
According to a poster on WS, Jr wasn't at the house when this all went down, I hope that this is true.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 06, 2009, 02:45:58 PM
PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- Misty Croslin-Cummings has posted bail for her husband who had been behind bars since early Thursday morning on burglary charges......
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=142925&catid=3


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 06, 2009, 02:47:40 PM
PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- Misty Croslin-Cummings has posted bail for her husband who had been behind bars since early Thursday morning on burglary charges......
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=142925&catid=3
Thanks, she will stand by her man.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 06, 2009, 02:53:22 PM
PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- Misty Croslin-Cummings has posted bail for her husband who had been behind bars since early Thursday morning on burglary charges......
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=142925&catid=3

Wonder what money was used to post bail considering they aren't working as far as I know.  Sad but expected.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 06, 2009, 02:56:05 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/MistyPostsBond.jpg)

(http://www.firstcoastnews.com/genthumb.ashx?e=3&h=240&w=320&i=/assetpool/images/090806024130_080609_ron2.JPG)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 06, 2009, 03:35:58 PM
Thanks for the update  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 06, 2009, 03:47:10 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20300975/detail.html

PALATKA, Fla. -- The father of a missing Putnam County girl was bonded out of jail by his wife on Thursday.

Ronald Cummings was arrested and booked into the Putnam County Jail on a charge of burglary with assault or battery. He made a first appearance in court and bond was set at $12,504.

Cummings is accused of beating up his wife Misty Croslin's father during a fight at the Cummings' home.
Ronald Cummings
Ronald Cummings

Neither jail officials nor officials with the Putnam County Sheriff's Office would provide further details.

Haleigh was reported missing from her home in Satsuma in February, and no trace of the girl was been found. A $35,000 reward remains available for her return.

The Department of Children and Families closed an abuse investigation into Cummings last month and found no evidence against him in his daughter's disappearance.

Cummings and Croslin both agreed to complete parenting classes.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 06, 2009, 04:05:11 PM
I could just scream when I see that smirk on Ron's face  ::MonkeyEek:: I wonder also where the money came from to bail him out?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on August 06, 2009, 04:25:40 PM
I find the burglary charge a bit far fetched. Assault or battery, yes, but burglary??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 06, 2009, 04:35:00 PM
I find the burglary charge a bit far fetched. Assault or battery, yes, but burglary??
That is strange.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 06, 2009, 04:37:32 PM
I could just scream when I see that smirk on Ron's face  ::MonkeyEek:: I wonder also where the money came from to bail him out?

Misty had a matching smirk.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 06, 2009, 04:39:32 PM
I could just scream when I see that smirk on Ron's face  ::MonkeyEek:: I wonder also where the money came from to bail him out?

Misty had a matching smirk.
Yes, but it doesn't upset me as much as Rons.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 06, 2009, 04:49:52 PM
I could just scream when I see that smirk on Ron's face  ::MonkeyEek:: I wonder also where the money came from to bail him out?

Misty had a matching smirk.
Yes, but it doesn't upset me as much as Rons.

And why does she always wear long sleeves? That would be way to hot and uncomfortable in the Fl. weather no?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 06, 2009, 04:55:47 PM
I could just scream when I see that smirk on Ron's face  ::MonkeyEek:: I wonder also where the money came from to bail him out?

Misty had a matching smirk.
Yes, but it doesn't upset me as much as Rons.

And why does she always wear long sleeves? That would be way to hot and uncomfortable in the Fl. weather no?
Maybe she is a cutter? I know I would not be able to wear long sleeves in that heat.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 06, 2009, 05:07:08 PM
Sykes tells Action News she doesn't know why Hank Croslin Sr., Hank Croslin Jr. and Lisa Croslin came over to her home after Ronald got in a fight with Croslin Jr. earlier in the day. She says the men fought several times in her front yard and tried to get Misty, Ronald’s wife, to go home with them. Sykes says Ronald went into her home, came out, and punched Croslin Jr. to keep him from taking Misty away. She says the Croslins left and minutes later Putnam County Sheriff’s deputies showed up and arrested Ronald.           ( I wonder what the fight was about earlier in the day? )


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 06, 2009, 05:35:16 PM
HLN was just talking about this...not saying a whole lot more than we already know..

would like to mention that it is really nice to see some  posters from this forum taking part in this discussion who don't normally post much on the Haleigh thread... a new perspective and some new   theories and ideas will be most welcome! ....

Now talk Misty and tell the truth!! we want to know! Where is Haleigh???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: theboyzmom on August 06, 2009, 06:13:47 PM
I am pretty sure that Ron laid hands on Misty and the family came over to rescue her. She  may have even called them and asked them to help. Once they got there she changed her mind. She is terrified of Ron. And I am pretty sure that is why she wears long sleeves. She knows what happened and is too scared to tell. Too bad Ron did not stay in jail and give her time to come to her senses. All of this is IMO only of course!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 06, 2009, 06:15:01 PM
I am pretty sure that Ron laid hands on Misty and the family came over to rescue her. She  may have even called them and asked them to help. Once they got there she changed her mind. She is terrified of Ron. And I am pretty sure that is why she wears long sleeves. She knows what happened and is too scared to tell. Too bad Ron did not stay in jail and give her time to come to her senses. All of this is IMO only of course!
I'm on the same page as you are.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on August 06, 2009, 06:19:37 PM
I am pretty sure that Ron laid hands on Misty and the family came over to rescue her. She  may have even called them and asked them to help. Once they got there she changed her mind. She is terrified of Ron. And I am pretty sure that is why she wears long sleeves. She knows what happened and is too scared to tell. Too bad Ron did not stay in jail and give her time to come to her senses. All of this is IMO only of course!

A lot of people where long sleeves here in Florida, usually light colors though. Some say it keeps them cooler, some do it to keep the sun off of them. I was thinking more along the lines of covering up bruises or even track marks.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 06:24:19 PM
I'm glad Haleigh is getting some media attention but sad it took an act of violence to make it so.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 06, 2009, 06:31:47 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20300975/detail.html
Haleigh Cummings' Father Bonds Out Of Jail
Ronald Cummings Faces Burglary Charge

POSTED: 6:40 am EDT August 6, 2009
UPDATED: 6:01 pm EDT August 6, 2009
PALATKA, Fla. -- The father of a missing Putnam County girl was bonded out of jail by his wife on Thursday after just 12 hours.
Ronald Cummings was arrested and booked into the Putnam County Jail on charges of burglary and simple battery. He made a first appearance in court and bond was set at $12,504.

Cummings is accused of beating up his wife Misty Croslin's father and brother during a fight at the Cummings' home.
Ronald Cummings
Ronald Cummings

The Croslins said Misty called them in the middle of the night asking them to pick her up because she didn't want to live with Cummings anymore -- so they went to get their daughter.
"An argument ensued between the Croslins and Ronald Cummings, which ultimately resulted in a physical confrontation. The Croslins reported that Ronald Cummings assaulted them," Rick Ryan of the Putnam County Sheriff's Office said.

The family was finally able to drive away and dialed 911 for help. Deputies eventually spoke with Cummings.

"Cummings exercised his right not to talk to the officers, and based on their investigation and what the witnesses stated, Cummings was subsequently arrested," Ryan said.

Haleigh Cummings, 5, was reported missing from her home in Satsuma in February, and no trace of the girl was been found. A $35,000 reward remains available for her return.

"We're still investigating those leads, and we're still interviewing people routinely," Ryan said.

The Department of Children and Families closed an abuse investigation into Ronald Cummings last month and found no evidence against him in his daughter's disappearance.
Cummings and Croslin both agreed to complete parenting classes.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 06, 2009, 06:56:28 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/actionlocal/story/Cummings-Croslin-family-speak-about-arrest/mLXK584190mQsmKIOzg82g.cspx              Misty filed a restraining order on her brother.   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Blue Moon on August 06, 2009, 07:04:34 PM
I am pretty sure that Ron laid hands on Misty and the family came over to rescue her. She  may have even called them and asked them to help. Once they got there she changed her mind. She is terrified of Ron. And I am pretty sure that is why she wears long sleeves. She knows what happened and is too scared to tell. Too bad Ron did not stay in jail and give her time to come to her senses. All of this is IMO only of course!

I agree with ya on this.  She is a "classic battered wife".  My opinion but I have a family member whom I witnessed it for 30 years and this little girl is just like my family member who was abused (I saw it twice and begged and pleaded but she would not listen).


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 06, 2009, 07:11:09 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: How incredibly sad this is the enviroment Jr is in..........and I agree with everyone about the long sleeves and covering bruises, it was WAY too hot hear today for long sleeves especially a black colored top, I was in a bathing suit on the beach and I was hot ::MonkeyTongue::

MOO I believe Ron is an abuser and always will be, he seems to have anger and control issues and that's why he's suspicious to me in Haleigh's disappearance as it's not a huge jump to consider he and Misty could have gotten into a knock down drag out fight that Haleigh could have gotten into the middle after her three day drug and sex bender with WBG.

Also, is it just me does Misty look heavier?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 06, 2009, 07:12:24 PM
Details:

UCN: 542009DR001003FDXXXX
File Date: 2009-08-06 Disposition Date: 
File Type: INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION - FD10
Judge: ELIZABETH A MORRIS   

Plaintiffs
CUMMINGS MISTY J  Defendants
CROSLIN JR HANK T 


Date Docket Description
2009-08-06 001.PETITION FOR INJUNCTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE 

2009-08-06 002.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE 

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on August 06, 2009, 07:23:47 PM
 I put my money on Granny Sykes that came up with the cash....looks like Misty has put on a few pounds....and Ronald still looks like the AZZ that he is.jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 06, 2009, 07:27:40 PM
My mother who was a victim of spousal abuse, always had the bruises on her face.  Also black eyes galore.  I'm wondering in Misty's case if the long sleeves are not to hide drug injection places?  Or perhaps the bruising that comes with sloppy injections. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 06, 2009, 07:38:26 PM
::MonkeyNoNo:: How incredibly sad this is the enviroment Jr is in..........and I agree with everyone about the long sleeves and covering bruises, it was WAY too hot hear today for long sleeves especially a black colored top, I was in a bathing suit on the beach and I was hot ::MonkeyTongue::

MOO I believe Ron is an abuser and always will be, he seems to have anger and control issues and that's why he's suspicious to me in Haleigh's disappearance as it's not a huge jump to consider he and Misty could have gotten into a knock down drag out fight that Haleigh could have gotten into the middle after her three day drug and sex bender with WBG.

Also, is it just me does Misty look heavier?
Yes, Misty does look heavier to me. I believe Ron is an abuser also.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 06, 2009, 07:45:41 PM
Details:

UCN: 542009DR001003FDXXXX
File Date: 2009-08-06 Disposition Date: 
File Type: INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION - FD10
Judge: ELIZABETH A MORRIS   

Plaintiffs
CUMMINGS MISTY J  Defendants
CROSLIN JR HANK T 


Date Docket Description
2009-08-06 001.PETITION FOR INJUNCTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE 

2009-08-06 002.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE 

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php


Thanks


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 06, 2009, 07:52:23 PM
::MonkeyNoNo:: How incredibly sad this is the enviroment Jr is in..........and I agree with everyone about the long sleeves and covering bruises, it was WAY too hot hear today for long sleeves especially a black colored top, I was in a bathing suit on the beach and I was hot ::MonkeyTongue::

MOO I believe Ron is an abuser and always will be, he seems to have anger and control issues and that's why he's suspicious to me in Haleigh's disappearance as it's not a huge jump to consider he and Misty could have gotten into a knock down drag out fight that Haleigh could have gotten into the middle after her three day drug and sex bender with WBG.

Also, is it just me does Misty look heavier?
Yes, Misty does look heavier to me. I believe Ron is an abuser also.
I believe Misty did call her brother to come get her, looks to me like Ronald had already hit Misty and thats why the phone call was made, now because of the big fight Misty says thats how she got hit, something needs to break with this case, its obvious that they are hiding something, too bad Ronald got out this soon, given a few days away from him might have made a world of difference in Misty and there's no telling what she might have let slip...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 06, 2009, 07:53:38 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/actionlocal/story/Cummings-Croslin-family-speak-about-arrest/mLXK584190mQsmKIOzg82g.cspx              Misty filed a restraining order on her brother.   ::MonkeyEek::
bet I know who's idea this was......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 06, 2009, 07:54:44 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/actionlocal/story/Cummings-Croslin-family-speak-about-arrest/mLXK584190mQsmKIOzg82g.cspx              Misty filed a restraining order on her brother.   ::MonkeyEek::
bet I know who's idea this was......
Me too  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 06, 2009, 08:06:43 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/actionlocal/story/Cummings-Croslin-family-speak-about-arrest/mLXK584190mQsmKIOzg82g.cspx              Misty filed a restraining order on her brother.   ::MonkeyEek::
bet I know who's idea this was......
Me too  ::MonkeyRoll::
be sure and watch NG.....the story is suppose to be on there, I think KP is on the panel........should be interesting.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Tams on August 06, 2009, 08:07:21 PM
Hello Monkey Friends!

So glad others noticed as well that Misty does not appear to be her old youthful petite self . . . we always saw pics of her with tight low-rise jeans; this pic shows her looking a bit plumpish & matronly in baggy pants. Hmmm......... anybody else thinking what I'm thinking? Wouldn't be at all surprising if she was preggers, no? (Goodness knows whose it is!)

With regards to the long sleeved shirt - agree with you all - abuse is probably a given, and needle/drug use would not be at all surprising, now would it?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 06, 2009, 08:08:44 PM
NG can take time away from Michael Jackson? Thanks, should be interesting.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 06, 2009, 08:11:58 PM
NG can take time away from Michael Jackson? Thanks, should be interesting.
well it surprised me too, but maybe she was forced to with everything else that is going on...lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 06, 2009, 08:12:57 PM
Hello Monkey Friends!

So glad others noticed as well that Misty does not appear to be her old youthful petite self . . . we always saw pics of her with tight low-rise jeans; this pic shows her looking a bit plumpish & matronly in baggy pants. Hmmm......... anybody else thinking what I'm thinking? Wouldn't be at all surprising if she was preggers, no? (Goodness knows whose it is!)

With regards to the long sleeved shirt - agree with you all - abuse is probably a given, and needle/drug use would not be at all surprising, now would it?

Not to me.......frankly nothing at this point would surprise me ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 06, 2009, 08:22:50 PM
Hello Monkey Friends!

So glad others noticed as well that Misty does not appear to be her old youthful petite self . . . we always saw pics of her with tight low-rise jeans; this pic shows her looking a bit plumpish & matronly in baggy pants. Hmmm......... anybody else thinking what I'm thinking? Wouldn't be at all surprising if she was preggers, no? (Goodness knows whose it is!)

With regards to the long sleeved shirt - agree with you all - abuse is probably a given, and needle/drug use would not be at all surprising, now would it?

Not to me.......frankly nothing at this point would surprise me ::MonkeyDevil2::
The only thing about this cse that has surprised me is that Ronald was able to contain himself from getting in trouble for almost 6 whole months,,,well that we know of anyway.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Tams on August 06, 2009, 08:36:43 PM
Hello Monkey Friends!

So glad others noticed as well that Misty does not appear to be her old youthful petite self . . . we always saw pics of her with tight low-rise jeans; this pic shows her looking a bit plumpish & matronly in baggy pants. Hmmm......... anybody else thinking what I'm thinking? Wouldn't be at all surprising if she was preggers, no? (Goodness knows whose it is!)

With regards to the long sleeved shirt - agree with you all - abuse is probably a given, and needle/drug use would not be at all surprising, now would it?

Not to me.......frankly nothing at this point would surprise me ::MonkeyDevil2::
The only thing about this cse that has surprised me is that Ronald was able to contain himself from getting in trouble for almost 6 whole months,,,well that we know of anyway.

Great point indeed . . . in fact, maybe LE has been just WAITING for him to slip up . . . although they didn't keep him detained for long. Unfortunately. (Let those prison guards ply some info out of him!) There's no way that he stopped using/dealing drugs, partaking in drunken carousing & brawls, etc. etc. etc. for 6 whole months, as you pointed out. Somehow been flying under the media's radar - but hopefully not LE's.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 06, 2009, 08:43:45 PM
I was just wondering if Ron is keeping Misty's family from her.....Keeping her close... Keeping the truth from coming out ....Hmmm ... ::MonkeyTongue::

Where Is Haleigh.. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 06, 2009, 08:46:18 PM
I was just wondering if Ron is keeping Misty's family from her.....Keeping her close... Keeping the truth from coming out ....Hmmm ... ::MonkeyTongue::

Where Is Haleigh.. ::MonkeyAngel::


I think you may very well have hit the nail on the head JG.............


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 06, 2009, 08:55:50 PM
I was just wondering if Ron is keeping Misty's family from her.....Keeping her close... Keeping the truth from coming out ....Hmmm ... ::MonkeyTongue::

Where Is Haleigh.. ::MonkeyAngel::


I think you may very well have hit the nail on the head JG.............
That sounds about right.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 06, 2009, 09:14:51 PM
I was just wondering if Ron is keeping Misty's family from her.....Keeping her close... Keeping the truth from coming out ....Hmmm ... ::MonkeyTongue::

Where Is Haleigh.. ::MonkeyAngel::


I think you may very well have hit the nail on the head JG.............
Yes, I also think that is what he is doing.......................Oh and I guess NG still is biased with the Haleigh case, I thought she was gonna cover it, had seen on her web site where some said something about it, but NO, she passed right by it....whats up with that?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mytime on August 06, 2009, 09:25:30 PM
Nothing on NG!!  But it is on Jane!! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 06, 2009, 09:35:16 PM
Nothing on NG!!  But it is on Jane!! 
Thanks MT.....should have known better then to watch NG........

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=142925&catid=3


updated video with pictures of granny sykes and misty going to bail Ron out.........Granny was there so that explains some things..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 06, 2009, 09:35:17 PM
what pictures of Misty are you all talking about? the one that is on here on Pg. 1...she does look broader in the hips but she does  not look preggers to me...what do you all think?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 06, 2009, 09:37:00 PM
Please God...let all of these people be sterile and not able to procreate!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mytime on August 06, 2009, 09:45:03 PM
what pictures of Misty are you all talking about? the one that is on here on Pg. 1...she does look broader in the hips but she does  not look preggers to me...what do you all think?

I didn't think she looked pregnant!!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 06, 2009, 09:51:11 PM
But Ronald Cummings said the Croslins showed up at his grandmother's home after Misty Cummings told them not to come, the report says. He said the Croslins approached him in an "aggressive" way. Cummings said he ended up pushing Hank Croslin Jr. when he came too close and then fought with both men. Cummings said the father held him while the son hit him, according to the report.

This makes no sense at all.  Why would they come to get Misty if Misty hadn't called and asked for help?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 06, 2009, 09:54:12 PM
But Ronald Cummings said the Croslins showed up at his grandmother's home after Misty Cummings told them not to come, the report says. He said the Croslins approached him in an "aggressive" way. Cummings said he ended up pushing Hank Croslin Jr. when he came too close and then fought with both men. Cummings said the father held him while the son hit him, according to the report.

This makes no sense at all.  Why would they come to get Misty if Misty hadn't called and asked for help?
Thats my question also, you can bet she called and then didnt want Ronald to know she did so this is the reason she is acting like its all her families fault,,,  just crazy..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 06, 2009, 10:03:48 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/actionlocal/story/Cummings-Croslin-family-speak-about-arrest/mLXK584190mQsmKIOzg82g.cspx

Misty's brother Hank Jr. speaks in this video about what happened.........crazy.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 06, 2009, 10:06:18 PM
Klaas..I am pretty sure that she called her family..otherwise why show up at that time of night? most folks would be in bed by that time..at least in my household we would be...course, if you don't work, all the world is a party right?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 06, 2009, 10:07:41 PM
I was just wondering if Ron is keeping Misty's family from her.....Keeping her close... Keeping the truth from coming out ....Hmmm ... ::MonkeyTongue::

Where Is Haleigh.. ::MonkeyAngel::


I think you may very well have hit the nail on the head JG.............
Yes, I also think that is what he is doing.......................Oh and I guess NG still is biased with the Haleigh case, I thought she was gonna cover it, had seen on her web site where some said something about it, but NO, she passed right by it....whats up with that?


Who knows, but she is so biased towards a druggie thug with anger/control issues and completely against Crystal who I absolutely believe was an abuse victim and now it looks like Misty may be one too. Control freaks are notorious for cutting off those they control from family/friends.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 06, 2009, 10:29:03 PM
I was just wondering if Ron is keeping Misty's family from her.....Keeping her close... Keeping the truth from coming out ....Hmmm ... ::MonkeyTongue::

Where Is Haleigh.. ::MonkeyAngel::


I think you may very well have hit the nail on the head JG.............
Yes, I also think that is what he is doing.......................Oh and I guess NG still is biased with the Haleigh case, I thought she was gonna cover it, had seen on her web site where some said something about it, but NO, she passed right by it....whats up with that?


Who knows, but she is so biased towards a druggie thug with anger/control issues and completely against Crystal who I absolutely believe was an abuse victim and now it looks like Misty may be one too. Control freaks are notorious for cutting off those they control from family/friends.......

ITA...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 06, 2009, 10:51:07 PM
I have some pics I will post off off 3rd ave which is close to GGranny home in Welaka where Ron and Misty are staying..  ::MonkeyTongue::

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 06, 2009, 10:52:29 PM
The Log cabin bar..

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 06, 2009, 10:55:00 PM
Citco then come the Bank alittle past the bank is 4th ave..

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 06, 2009, 10:58:44 PM
4th ave is off of 3rd past Bank.. Croslin did not have to go far to make a call from Kangaroo store which is off of 3rd ave...

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 06, 2009, 11:05:11 PM
Kangaroo store is not showing up on google but it is close the the boat store which is before the Citco..

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 06, 2009, 11:11:29 PM
Thanks for the pics Jersey, the kangaroo store is really just right there at Granny Sykes house, if I was Misty I believe i would have jumped in the truck with my brother and got the heck out of there, but then Ronald could have threatened her family if she left with them, and no one knows better then Misty just what Ronald is capable of.....Im sure she has seen it first hand.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Idgie on August 06, 2009, 11:20:44 PM
I was just wondering if Ron is keeping Misty's family from her.....Keeping her close... Keeping the truth from coming out ....Hmmm ... ::MonkeyTongue::

Where Is Haleigh.. ::MonkeyAngel::


I think you may very well have hit the nail on the head JG.............
Yes, I also think that is what he is doing.......................Oh and I guess NG still is biased with the Haleigh case, I thought she was gonna cover it, had seen on her web site where some said something about it, but NO, she passed right by it....whats up with that?


Who knows, but she is so biased towards a druggie thug with anger/control issues and completely against Crystal who I absolutely believe was an abuse victim and now it looks like Misty may be one too. Control freaks are notorious for cutting off those they control from family/friends.......
Druggie thug? I beg your pardon but aren't more than RC duggies'. Woops on that one!!!   I have seen a lot of biased opinions.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on August 06, 2009, 11:35:57 PM
Thanks for the pics Jersey, the kangaroo store is really just right there at Granny Sykes house, if I was Misty I believe i would have jumped in the truck with my brother and got the heck out of there, but then Ronald could have threatened her family if she left with them, and no one knows better then Misty just what Ronald is capable of.....Im sure she has seen it first hand.

I don't think this is going to end with just Haleigh missing.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::  You have to wonder what trump Ronald has on Misty to get her to turn on family.  IMHO, she made that call.  Sad, sad, sad.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 06, 2009, 11:40:38 PM
Thanks for the pics Jersey, the kangaroo store is really just right there at Granny Sykes house, if I was Misty I believe i would have jumped in the truck with my brother and got the heck out of there, but then Ronald could have threatened her family if she left with them, and no one knows better then Misty just what Ronald is capable of.....Im sure she has seen it first hand.

I don't think this is going to end with just Haleigh missing.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::  You have to wonder what trump Ronald has on Misty to get her to turn on family.  IMHO, she made that call.  Sad, sad, sad.
Yes,it could also be something that he is holding over her hed, I agree, but I still think she is scared of what he might do to her or her family..........sad situation, she would be much better off if she would just meet with LE and tell all....everything......before someone gets hurt..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on August 06, 2009, 11:43:08 PM
Thanks for the pics Jersey, the kangaroo store is really just right there at Granny Sykes house, if I was Misty I believe i would have jumped in the truck with my brother and got the heck out of there, but then Ronald could have threatened her family if she left with them, and no one knows better then Misty just what Ronald is capable of.....Im sure she has seen it first hand.

I don't think this is going to end with just Haleigh missing.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::  You have to wonder what trump Ronald has on Misty to get her to turn on family.  IMHO, she made that call.  Sad, sad, sad.
Yes,it could also be something that he is holding over her hed, I agree, but I still think she is scared of what he might do to her or her family..........sad situation, she would be much better off if she would just meet with LE and tell all....everything......before someone gets hurt..
Yes - or before someone else gets hurt.  I think my hope that she was taken to Tn or somewhere is fading fast.  IMHO, Misty knows something Ron did or vice versa. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 06, 2009, 11:46:12 PM
Thanks for the pics Jersey, the kangaroo store is really just right there at Granny Sykes house, if I was Misty I believe i would have jumped in the truck with my brother and got the heck out of there, but then Ronald could have threatened her family if she left with them, and no one knows better then Misty just what Ronald is capable of.....Im sure she has seen it first hand.

I don't think this is going to end with just Haleigh missing.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::  You have to wonder what trump Ronald has on Misty to get her to turn on family.  IMHO, she made that call.  Sad, sad, sad.
Yes,it could also be something that he is holding over her hed, I agree, but I still think she is scared of what he might do to her or her family..........sad situation, she would be much better off if she would just meet with LE and tell all....everything......before someone gets hurt..
Yes - or before someone else gets hurt.  I think my hope that she was taken to Tn or somewhere is fading fast.  IMHO, Misty knows something Ron did or vice versa. 
I have always believed that Haleigh was gone before the first 911 call was made, and yes....someone else is gonna get hurt if someone doesnt spill the beans soon.....Im still not clear on just what happened to Haleigh, but I really think Ronald most likely hurt her and Misty saw it all..........JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on August 06, 2009, 11:48:20 PM
Thanks for the pics Jersey, the kangaroo store is really just right there at Granny Sykes house, if I was Misty I believe i would have jumped in the truck with my brother and got the heck out of there, but then Ronald could have threatened her family if she left with them, and no one knows better then Misty just what Ronald is capable of.....Im sure she has seen it first hand.

I don't think this is going to end with just Haleigh missing.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::  You have to wonder what trump Ronald has on Misty to get her to turn on family.  IMHO, she made that call.  Sad, sad, sad.
Yes,it could also be something that he is holding over her hed, I agree, but I still think she is scared of what he might do to her or her family..........sad situation, she would be much better off if she would just meet with LE and tell all....everything......before someone gets hurt..
Yes - or before someone else gets hurt.  I think my hope that she was taken to Tn or somewhere is fading fast.  IMHO, Misty knows something Ron did or vice versa. 
I have always believed that Haleigh was gone before the first 911 call was made, and yes....someone else is gonna get hurt if someone doesnt spill the beans soon.....Im still not clear on just what happened to Haleigh, but I really think Ronald most likely hurt her and Misty saw it all..........JMO

Given the shotgun wedding and his not tossing her to the curb for her own actions, I tend to agree with you HH. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 06, 2009, 11:52:02 PM
Thanks for the pics Jersey, the kangaroo store is really just right there at Granny Sykes house, if I was Misty I believe i would have jumped in the truck with my brother and got the heck out of there, but then Ronald could have threatened her family if she left with them, and no one knows better then Misty just what Ronald is capable of.....Im sure she has seen it first hand.

I don't think this is going to end with just Haleigh missing.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::  You have to wonder what trump Ronald has on Misty to get her to turn on family.  IMHO, she made that call.  Sad, sad, sad.
Yes,it could also be something that he is holding over her hed, I agree, but I still think she is scared of what he might do to her or her family..........sad situation, she would be much better off if she would just meet with LE and tell all....everything......before someone gets hurt..
Yes - or before someone else gets hurt.  I think my hope that she was taken to Tn or somewhere is fading fast.  IMHO, Misty knows something Ron did or vice versa. 
I have always believed that Haleigh was gone before the first 911 call was made, and yes....someone else is gonna get hurt if someone doesnt spill the beans soon.....Im still not clear on just what happened to Haleigh, but I really think Ronald most likely hurt her and Misty saw it all..........JMO

Given the shotgun wedding and his not tossing her to the curb for her own actions, I tend to agree with you HH. 
Yes, I dont know many men that would have married the girl that had just left him and partied all weekend with another man, so yea, looks like he had no choice but to try to keep her happy........the whole case is crazy....poor Haleigh......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 06, 2009, 11:52:42 PM
Thanks for the pics Jersey, the kangaroo store is really just right there at Granny Sykes house, if I was Misty I believe i would have jumped in the truck with my brother and got the heck out of there, but then Ronald could have threatened her family if she left with them, and no one knows better then Misty just what Ronald is capable of.....Im sure she has seen it first hand.

I don't think this is going to end with just Haleigh missing.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::  You have to wonder what trump Ronald has on Misty to get her to turn on family.  IMHO, she made that call.  Sad, sad, sad.
Yes,it could also be something that he is holding over her hed, I agree, but I still think she is scared of what he might do to her or her family..........sad situation, she would be much better off if she would just meet with LE and tell all....everything......before someone gets hurt..
Yes - or before someone else gets hurt.  I think my hope that she was taken to Tn or somewhere is fading fast.  IMHO, Misty knows something Ron did or vice versa. 
I have always believed that Haleigh was gone before the first 911 call was made, and yes....someone else is gonna get hurt if someone doesnt spill the beans soon.....Im still not clear on just what happened to Haleigh, but I really think Ronald most likely hurt her and Misty saw it all..........JMO

Given the shotgun wedding and his not tossing her to the curb for her own actions, I tend to agree with you HH. 

I believe to something happened to Haleigh too.. God Bless Haleigh.. ::MonkeyAngel::

We need some ground searches ..Start with the San Mateo area and Dunns creek area..  JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 07, 2009, 12:10:41 AM
I was just wondering if Ron is keeping Misty's family from her.....Keeping her close... Keeping the truth from coming out ....Hmmm ... ::MonkeyTongue::

Where Is Haleigh.. ::MonkeyAngel::


I think you may very well have hit the nail on the head JG.............
Yes, I also think that is what he is doing.......................Oh and I guess NG still is biased with the Haleigh case, I thought she was gonna cover it, had seen on her web site where some said something about it, but NO, she passed right by it....whats up with that?


Who knows, but she is so biased towards a druggie thug with anger/control issues and completely against Crystal who I absolutely believe was an abuse victim and now it looks like Misty may be one too. Control freaks are notorious for cutting off those they control from family/friends.......
Druggie thug? I beg your pardon but aren't more than RC duggies'. Woops on that one!!!   I have seen a lot of biased opinions.

Sorry, I don't understand the "aren't more than RC druggies" in your post.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 07, 2009, 12:14:18 AM
Thanks for the pics Jersey, the kangaroo store is really just right there at Granny Sykes house, if I was Misty I believe i would have jumped in the truck with my brother and got the heck out of there, but then Ronald could have threatened her family if she left with them, and no one knows better then Misty just what Ronald is capable of.....Im sure she has seen it first hand.

I don't think this is going to end with just Haleigh missing.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::  You have to wonder what trump Ronald has on Misty to get her to turn on family.  IMHO, she made that call.  Sad, sad, sad.
Yes,it could also be something that he is holding over her hed, I agree, but I still think she is scared of what he might do to her or her family..........sad situation, she would be much better off if she would just meet with LE and tell all....everything......before someone gets hurt..
Yes - or before someone else gets hurt.  I think my hope that she was taken to Tn or somewhere is fading fast.  IMHO, Misty knows something Ron did or vice versa. 
I have always believed that Haleigh was gone before the first 911 call was made, and yes....someone else is gonna get hurt if someone doesnt spill the beans soon.....Im still not clear on just what happened to Haleigh, but I really think Ronald most likely hurt her and Misty saw it all..........JMO

Given the shotgun wedding and his not tossing her to the curb for her own actions, I tend to agree with you HH. 

I believe to something happened to Haleigh too.. God Bless Haleigh.. ::MonkeyAngel::

We need some ground searches ..Start with the San Mateo area and Dunns creek area..  JMO


ITA with all the above sadly. I also think they need to search the PDM property and the route he takes to PDM.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 07, 2009, 01:15:34 AM
There are alot of druggies involved in this case.  Only one was arrested last night because he was being a THUG.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 07, 2009, 01:33:37 AM
There are alot of druggies involved in this case.  Only one was arrested last night because he was being a THUG.

Agreed on that.......

Seems like breaking news here on the Billings thread, I've been hopping all over the place tonight ::MonkeySkate::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mytime on August 07, 2009, 01:48:13 AM
There are alot of druggies involved in this case.  Only one was arrested last night because he was being a THUG.


Gotta love how Misty's dad dressed up for his interview!!   ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 07, 2009, 08:54:32 AM
no one on either side of this family has clean hands it seems....drugs/alcohol has played a big part in all of their lives from what we have seen and heard...and read in police reports..it is sad that one day these little ones involved in this family will be able to  look up police reports on their parents, grand parents, aunts, uncles and friends of the family...not to mention, worst of all,  a missing child in the mix....
will these kids have a chance growing up to be productive human beings or will they follow in their parent's footsteps? they see and learn from example...
really sad....jmo....Both sides of the family have let Haleigh down as far as I am concerned...jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 07, 2009, 09:40:39 AM
There are alot of druggies involved in this case.  Only one was arrested last night because he was being a THUG.


Gotta love how Misty's dad dressed up for his interview!!   ::MonkeyDevil2::
He could have a least put on a tee shirt  ::MonkeyRoll:: What a mess, I just hope someone doesn't end up badly injured or dead if another brawl happens again.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 07, 2009, 10:21:20 AM
I honestly believe that Misty did call her family that night to come and get her...I think that perhaps she did this behind Ron's back...the family showed up wanting Misty to leave with them..Ron, not knowing that Misty called her family thought that they were at his home to start problems with him and Misty...Meanwhile, Misty lies (again!) to Ron and says that she doesn't know why they are there..either out of fear or they had already made up after the fight that they had been in...and she changed her mind about wanting out...the phone records will show who called who and since Ron was arrested we will be able to find out because of the Sunshine law right? 
 
I believe the brother....about the phone call...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: callie4u on August 07, 2009, 10:25:13 AM
Where is the video of Misty's dad?  I missed it.  Thanks


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 07, 2009, 10:31:34 AM
I honestly believe that Misty did call her family that night to come and get her...I think that perhaps she did this behind Ron's back...the family showed up wanting Misty to leave with them..Ron, not knowing that Misty called her family thought that they were at his home to start problems with him and Misty...Meanwhile, Misty lies (again!) to Ron and says that she doesn't know why they are there..either out of fear or they had already made up after the fight that they had been in...and she changed her mind about wanting out...the phone records will show who called who and since Ron was arrested we will be able to find out because of the Sunshine law right? 
 
I believe the brother....about the phone call...
I really believe that the family came over to help Misty, and it upsets me that she is breaking ties by trying to get a restraining order on her brother. I do feel that Misty's family do care about harm coming to her, and they were doing what most families would do, go over and get her because she was so upset.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 07, 2009, 10:33:38 AM
Where is the video of Misty's dad?  I missed it.  Thanks

here is the link that I saw it on...

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mostpopular/story/Cummings-Croslin-family-speak-about-arrest/mLXK584190mQsmKIOzg82g.cspx


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Post by: islandmonkey on August 07, 2009, 10:43:36 AM
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090807/ARTICLES/908079983/1002?Title=School-supply-drive-planned-in-con


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School supply drive planned in connection with missing girl's birthday

By Karen Voyles
Staff writer


Published: Friday, August 7, 2009 at 8:14 a.m.
Last Modified: Friday, August 7, 2009 at 8:14 a.m.
The maternal family of a missing Putnam County girl has planned a school supply drive in connection with her sixth birthday. Haleigh Cummings, who was last seen nearly six months ago, disappeared from her father's home early in the morning on February 10. Her sixth birthday is on August 17.

Early Friday morning, Haleigh’s mother, Crystal Sheffield, and maternal grandmother, Marie Griffis, announced the school supply drive and issued another plea for anyone with information about the little girl to call investigators.

Haleigh, who has blond hair and brown eyes, weighed 39 pounds and was three feet tall when she was last seen by her younger brother, father and father's girlfriend at her father's home in Satsuma, which is about 75 miles east of Gainesville.

On August 17, Haleigh's birthday, several of her maternal relatives will be Riverfront Park in Palatka from 10 a.m. until 5 p.m. to accept donations of school supplies Browning Pearce Elementary School, the school Haleigh had been attending. Only school supplies will be accepted. No cash donations will be accepted, according to a news release issued Friday morning.

In the news release, family members said the supplies will be delivered to the school to establish what they are calling Haleigh's Closet, a place school supplies will be available to teachers and students in pre-kindergarten through fifth grade at Browning Pearce.

The family also said that they will accept school supplies shipped to Haleigh’s maternal grandmother Marie Griffis, 12222 Mud Lake Rd., Glen St. Mary FL, 32040.

In announcing the school supply drive in Haleigh's name, her maternal relatives also issued another plea for anyone with information about Haleigh to call the Putnam County Sheriff's Office at (386)329-0808 or call Crime Stoppers anonymously at 888-277-TIPS.

A reward fund of $35,000 has been established for information leading to her recovery or the conviction of anyone involved in her disappearance.




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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 07, 2009, 10:49:05 AM
Since I basically know nothing about DCF and their workings, except what I read on this board, is there any chance that they may look into this again, regarding little Ron Jr?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: callie4u on August 07, 2009, 11:12:02 AM
Thanks Cookie for sending me that link.  Ewwww.  Could have had a shirt.  Those people are like none I have ever seen before.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 07, 2009, 12:29:25 PM
Thanks Cookie for sending me that link.  Ewwww.  Could have had a shirt.  Those people are like none I have ever seen before.
You got that right, except for the Anthonys, because they are something else also. I'm waiting to see how this all twists and turns and somehow Crystal will get some blame for all this.


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Post by: islandmonkey on August 07, 2009, 02:35:15 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-news-080709,0,3334406.story

Family of Haleigh Cummings still hopes for her return
Crystal Sheffield, mother of missing Haleigh Cummings, says "continues to search for her daughter and is not giving up her fight."

 
 
Sentinel Staff Writer
 
11:58 AM EDT, August 7, 2009
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As the six-month anniversary of Haleigh Cummings' disappearance approaches, her mother released statement today saying she continues to search for her daughter and is not giving up her fight.

The 5-year-old girl vanished from her bed in rural Satsuma in Putnam County in February.

Sunday will mark the six-month anniversary of the last time she was seen.

Her father's then-girlfriend put Haleigh to bed about 10 p.m. Feb. 9 while father Ronald Cummings was working. Then she discovered Haleigh missing about at about 3:30 a.m. Feb. 10.

Haleigh's mother, Crystal Sheffield, was at her home in Baker County near the Florida- Georgia state line at the time of her daughter's disappearance.

Authorities have classified what has happened as an abduction. In her statement, Crystal Sheffield pleaded for her daughter's return.

"Although it has almost been six months since Haleigh's disappearance, I still have hope that my daughter will come home," Crystal Sheffield said in the statement. "I will continue to do whatever it takes to keep her face out in the public for everyone to see. I ask if anyone out there knows anything to please call Crime Stoppers or your local police.

The girl's birthday is Aug. 17.

"Haleigh is about to be six years old, I am begging once again from the bottom of my heart for whoever has my sweet daughter to let her go," the statement added. "Please, she needs to be home with her family, she does not belong with anyone else. This is tearing my heart out of my chest, a part of me is missing and that is Haleigh."

Anyone with information on her whereabouts is asked to contact the Putnam County Sheriff's Office at 386-329-0808 or Crime Stoppers at 1-888-277-TIPS, the statement said.

Check back for updates.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 07, 2009, 03:17:00 PM
Thanks for IM.    ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 07, 2009, 03:19:16 PM
Thanks for IM.    ::MonkeyAngel::
Yes, thanks.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: penny for your thoughts on August 07, 2009, 03:52:14 PM
Since I basically know nothing about DCF and their workings, except what I read on this board, is there any chance that they may look into this again, regarding little Ron Jr?
well normally getting a restraining order on any one is a double edged sword... if something like this happens and you don't get one then you are at fault for not protecting your home from a dangerous person... but if you do get one then they tell you well your home is not safe because you have documented that a dangerous person might go there in the future and a piece of paper will not stop an assault from happening again...
it really depends on how dcf wants to look at it


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 07, 2009, 03:54:51 PM
Since I basically know nothing about DCF and their workings, except what I read on this board, is there any chance that they may look into this again, regarding little Ron Jr?
well normally getting a restraining order on any one is a double edged sword... if something like this happens and you don't get one then you are at fault for not protecting your home from a dangerous person... but if you do get one then they tell you well your home is not safe because you have documented that a dangerous person might go there in the future and a piece of paper will not stop an assault from happening again...
it really depends on how dcf wants to look at it
Thanks


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 07, 2009, 04:38:32 PM
542009CF001430XXAXMX
File Date: 2009-08-06 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty:

Defendant
C, RONALD LEMYLES
Alias


Date # Docket Description
2009-08-06 1 ARREST REPORT - PCSO D/S QUINTIER (ARREST 8/5/09)

2009-08-06 1 BOOKING NUMBER: 09-3225

2009-08-06 1 BURGLARY OF CONVEYANCE WITH BATTERY

2009-08-06 2 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 8/6/09

2009-08-06 2 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY

2009-08-06 2 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND

2009-08-06 2 $12,5004.00 SECURED BOND SET

2009-08-06 3 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
2009-08-06 4 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING                                                            ( So did he not get all that back child support? If he did, is it all spent, or is having that amount of money looked at as nothing, so you still can claim insolvency?  ::MonkeyConfused::)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 07, 2009, 05:27:32 PM
Bounty Hunter William "Cobra" Staubs Wants His Freedom Back

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2009/08/william-cobra-staubs.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 07, 2009, 06:00:04 PM
Bounty Hunter William "Cobra" Staubs Wants His Freedom Back

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2009/08/william-cobra-staubs.html
Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 07, 2009, 06:29:30 PM
Ronald Cummings speaks for the first time since his arrest


Last Update: 6:13 pm

WELAKA, Fla. -– 24 hours after making bail at the Putnam County Jail for a burglary with assault charge, Ronald Cummings invited Action News to his home to speak about what the next few weeks will hold for him and his family. Monday will mark six months since his daughter disappeared from their Satsuma home. One week later is Haleigh’s 6th birthday.

“I just try to stay strong for Haleigh, that’s all,” said Cummings.

Sitting in a rocking recliner at his home, Cummings was wearing the t-shirt made for him with his daughter’s face on it. All around his home are reminders of the little girl who was about to turn 6-years-old on August 17th.

“I’m never going to give up on my child. What father can give up on their child?”

Cummings says there are several things bothering him about the investigation into who took his daughter from his home. He says the thing that bothers him the most is that Sheriff’s Officers are not giving him weekly updates on how the investigation is going.

“They don’t contact me to let me know what’s going on. You’d think once a week, or once every two weeks they’d contact me and let me know what they’re doing to try and find her. They act like they don’t do anything,” said Cummings.

“It would make me feel better that they’re letting me know what they’re doing to find my daughter. It’s not going to make me feel great until my daughter comes home.”

Ronald’s grandmother Annette Sykes showed Action News never before seen photos of Haleigh during her first birthday party. Sykes says every one of her children or grandchildren always get their own birthday cake at parties to do with as they please. In the three photos Sykes showed Action News, one photo shows Haleigh smiling with her hand on the cake, the next shows her scraping her fingers along the frosting, and the final shows her with a mouthful of cake grinning from ear to ear.

“The only way to go on is with hope that my daughter will be home when I wake up,” said Cummings.

Ronald says each of Haleigh’s 5 birthdays have been spent with a big celebration. He says they always ended with a birthday cake.

“Birthday cake, some kind of a party whether it’s a skating rink or pool, just party with her friends,” said Cummings.

Action News confirmed with the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office that the investigation into Haleigh’s disappearance has not gone cold. Investigators say once a month they meet to discuss any and all leads, and compare notes. We have also learned the chief investigator has changed, and is now being headed up by a deputy who was one of the first on the scene of the disappearance back on February 10th.

Ronald tells Action News he plans on holding a candlelight vigil for Haleigh at his church on Sunday. He also says on the 17th, he and his family will launch balloons in remembrance of her birthday. Cummings says each of those balloons will have a flier with her face and information on it so wherever it pops, someone will see her face.

Crystal Sheffield, Haleigh’s mother, is also doing something special to honor Haleigh’s birthday. Sheffield tells Action News several of her relatives will be at Riverfront Park in Palatka from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. to accept donations of school supplies for Browning Pearce Elementary School, the school Haleigh attended. Only school supplies will be accepted, no cash.

Cummings says the bottom line is that the focus needs to stay on finding his missing daughter. He says all of the drama behind family squabbles doesn’t mean a thing until his daughter is back home.

“Thank you anyone who is helping find my daughter, I appreciate it. And if you have my daughter please return her, and if you’re watching -- baby I love you,” said Cummings.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Ronald-Cummings-speaks-for-the-first-time-since/9Ij0J9vMwku_XZLxnDEc1g.cspx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 07, 2009, 06:40:47 PM
snip from above article that Heart provided:

Cummings says the bottom line is that the focus needs to stay on finding his missing daughter. He says all of the drama behind family squabbles doesn’t mean a thing until his daughter is back home.

errr...Yeah, Ron, we all agree that the focus needs to say on Haleigh...
So don't get involved or create family drama and squabbles...You ARE the family drama on this one!!! you and Misty and her family.... ::MonkeyConfused::  jmo...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 07, 2009, 06:42:00 PM
snip from above article that Heart provided:

Cummings says the bottom line is that the focus needs to stay on finding his missing daughter. He says all of the drama behind family squabbles doesn’t mean a thing until his daughter is back home.

errr...Yeah, Ron, we all agree that the focus needs to say stay on Haleigh...
So don't get involved or create family drama and squabbles...You ARE the family drama on this one!!! you and Misty and her family.... ::MonkeyConfused::  jmo...

edited my own post...my fingers were flying on that one!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 07, 2009, 06:43:34 PM
snip from above article that Heart provided:

Cummings says the bottom line is that the focus needs to stay on finding his missing daughter. He says all of the drama behind family squabbles doesn’t mean a thing until his daughter is back home.

errr...Yeah, Ron, we all agree that the focus needs to say on Haleigh...
So don't get involved or create family drama and squabbles...You ARE the family drama on this one!!! you and Misty and her family.... ::MonkeyConfused::  jmo...
Agreed  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 07, 2009, 06:53:19 PM
I think that Misty does look pg in the  clipping of her and gr grandma Sykes coming out of the jail...my sister in law is petite like Misty and all she ever showed was a little ball in front ....from the back and front you could barely tell that she was expecting only from the side view....Ron never had a problem hand delivering Misty to her brothers before why now? maybe she is carrying his child?.....isn't it strange how the brother always ends up in the middle of all of Mistys drama except for the night that Haleigh went missing and he was so close he could have just run right over..... and again there is Sykes running to clean up Rons messes...... ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 07, 2009, 06:56:11 PM
Details:

UCN: 542009DR001003FDXXXX
File Date: 2009-08-06 Disposition Date: 
File Type: INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION - FD10
Judge: ELIZABETH A MORRIS   

Plaintiffs
CUMMINGS MISTY J  Defendants
CROSLIN JR HANK T 


Date Docket Description
2009-08-06 001.PETITION FOR INJUNCTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE 

2009-08-06 002.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE 

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php



Looks like Misty has a  drivers license now????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 07, 2009, 07:43:33 PM
Has the Justice for Haleigh Blog site been removed or are they just experiencing problems?

The following message is what I receive when I try to access it.

Blog has been removed

Sorry, the blog at justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com has been removed. This address is not available for new blogs.

Did you expect to see your blog here? See:'I can't find my blog on the Web, where is it?'


http://justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 07, 2009, 07:46:46 PM
I think that Misty does look pg in the  clipping of her and gr grandma Sykes coming out of the jail...my sister in law is petite like Misty and all she ever showed was a little ball in front ....from the back and front you could barely tell that she was expecting only from the side view....Ron never had a problem hand delivering Misty to her brothers before why now? maybe she is carrying his child?.....isn't it strange how the brother always ends up in the middle of all of Mistys drama except for the night that Haleigh went missing and he was so close he could have just run right over..... and again there is Sykes running to clean up Rons messes...... ::MonkeyConfused::
She looks heavier to me, can't tell if she is pregnant. And you are right grandma is there to help/enable.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 07, 2009, 07:47:13 PM
Has the Justice for Haleigh Blog site been removed or are they just experiencing problems?

The following message is what I receive when I try to access it.

Blog has been removed

Sorry, the blog at justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com has been removed. This address is not available for new blogs.

Did you expect to see your blog here? See:'I can't find my blog on the Web, where is it?'


http://justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com/
I wonder  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 07, 2009, 08:14:52 PM
Video of :Cummings speaks for the first time since arrest

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Cummings-speaks-for-the-first-time-since-arrest/9Ij0J9vMwku_XZLxnDEc1g.cspx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 07, 2009, 08:29:24 PM
Has the Justice for Haleigh Blog site been removed or are they just experiencing problems?

The following message is what I receive when I try to access it.

Blog has been removed

Sorry, the blog at justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com has been removed. This address is not available for new blogs.

Did you expect to see your blog here? See:'I can't find my blog on the Web, where is it?'


http://justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com/
I wonder  ::MonkeyConfused::

The cached page is still there and was updated yesterday:

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:rFZGJgflJLQJ:justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com/+justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 07, 2009, 08:46:59 PM
Has the Justice for Haleigh Blog site been removed or are they just experiencing problems?

The following message is what I receive when I try to access it.

Blog has been removed

Sorry, the blog at justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com has been removed. This address is not available for new blogs.

Did you expect to see your blog here? See:'I can't find my blog on the Web, where is it?'


http://justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com/
I wonder  ::MonkeyConfused::

The cached page is still there and was updated yesterday:

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:rFZGJgflJLQJ:justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com/+justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Thanks Klaas.

Another poster told me that she had read somewhere today that the owner of the blog is on vacation for a week or so.

I guess we will see.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 07, 2009, 08:52:30 PM
Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 07, 2009, 08:55:18 PM
Has the Justice for Haleigh Blog site been removed or are they just experiencing problems?

The following message is what I receive when I try to access it.

Blog has been removed

Sorry, the blog at justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com has been removed. This address is not available for new blogs.

Did you expect to see your blog here? See:'I can't find my blog on the Web, where is it?'


http://justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com/
I wonder  ::MonkeyConfused::

The cached page is still there and was updated yesterday:

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:rFZGJgflJLQJ:justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com/+justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Thanks Klaas.

Another poster told me that she had read somewhere today that the owner of the blog is on vacation for a week or so.

I guess we will see.

Well I suppose you could temporarily take it offline but why would you if you were only going on vacation?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 07, 2009, 09:00:50 PM
Has the Justice for Haleigh Blog site been removed or are they just experiencing problems?

The following message is what I receive when I try to access it.

Blog has been removed

Sorry, the blog at justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com has been removed. This address is not available for new blogs.

Did you expect to see your blog here? See:'I can't find my blog on the Web, where is it?'


http://justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com/
I wonder  ::MonkeyConfused::

The cached page is still there and was updated yesterday:

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:rFZGJgflJLQJ:justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com/+justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Thanks Klaas.

Another poster told me that she had read somewhere today that the owner of the blog is on vacation for a week or so.

I guess we will see.

Well I suppose you could temporarily take it offline but why would you if you were only going on vacation?

That was my thought also. 

As well as leave it up with a note stating it will be updated upon return from vacation.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 07, 2009, 09:31:08 PM
O/T

RANDY  DEAN  BIEGENWALD
PALATKA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 8/5/2009 8:25:24 PM  - Booking#: 09-03217
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 3/28/1978 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
794.011-2a   SEX ASSLT BY 18 YOA OLDER SEX BATTERY VICT UNDER 12 YOA   F   C    $0.00    
800.04-5b   LEWD LASCV BEHAVIOR MOLEST VIC LESS 12YOA OFFENDER 18 YOA OR OLDER   F   L    $0.00    
                $0.00    



Man accused of sexually abusing 4 yr. old


Last Update: 2:53 pm

Investigators say Biegenwald sexually abused a young girl.
PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- A local man is accused sexually abusing a young girl. The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office arrested 31-year-old Randy Dean Biegenwald.

Investigators say they received a call from the girl's mother in May of this year She told them her four-year-old daughter was possibly victimized by Biegenwald between January 2006 and July 2008.

Biegenwald was booked into the Putnam County jail Wednesday night on charges of capital sexual battery and lewd or lascivious behavior with a victim under the age of twelve. He is being held without bond.

We'll have the very latest tonight, on Action News at 6. 

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Man-accused-of-sexually-abusing-4-yr-old/cunekT6IyECYh-01g3-JLw.cspx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 07, 2009, 09:50:23 PM
VIDEO:  Bail bondsman sues county (Putnam County, Fl)

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoid=32888



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 07, 2009, 09:52:52 PM
O/T

RANDY  DEAN  BIEGENWALD
PALATKA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 8/5/2009 8:25:24 PM  - Booking#: 09-03217
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 3/28/1978 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
794.011-2a   SEX ASSLT BY 18 YOA OLDER SEX BATTERY VICT UNDER 12 YOA   F   C    $0.00    
800.04-5b   LEWD LASCV BEHAVIOR MOLEST VIC LESS 12YOA OFFENDER 18 YOA OR OLDER   F   L    $0.00    
                $0.00    



Man accused of sexually abusing 4 yr. old


Last Update: 2:53 pm

Investigators say Biegenwald sexually abused a young girl.
PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- A local man is accused sexually abusing a young girl. The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office arrested 31-year-old Randy Dean Biegenwald.

Investigators say they received a call from the girl's mother in May of this year She told them her four-year-old daughter was possibly victimized by Biegenwald between January 2006 and July 2008.

Biegenwald was booked into the Putnam County jail Wednesday night on charges of capital sexual battery and lewd or lascivious behavior with a victim under the age of twelve. He is being held without bond.

We'll have the very latest tonight, on Action News at 6. 

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Man-accused-of-sexually-abusing-4-yr-old/cunekT6IyECYh-01g3-JLw.cspx


does this seem odd to anyone else? she called in May of this year and the alleged assault of this child "possibly" happened between January 2006 and July 2008...why did she wait so long to call? does this guy have a prior arrest for molesting children? is this a boyfriend of the mom's?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 07, 2009, 10:09:59 PM
O/T

RANDY  DEAN  BIEGENWALD
PALATKA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 8/5/2009 8:25:24 PM  - Booking#: 09-03217
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 3/28/1978 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
794.011-2a   SEX ASSLT BY 18 YOA OLDER SEX BATTERY VICT UNDER 12 YOA   F   C    $0.00    
800.04-5b   LEWD LASCV BEHAVIOR MOLEST VIC LESS 12YOA OFFENDER 18 YOA OR OLDER   F   L    $0.00    
                $0.00    



Man accused of sexually abusing 4 yr. old


Last Update: 2:53 pm

Investigators say Biegenwald sexually abused a young girl.
PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- A local man is accused sexually abusing a young girl. The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office arrested 31-year-old Randy Dean Biegenwald.

Investigators say they received a call from the girl's mother in May of this year She told them her four-year-old daughter was possibly victimized by Biegenwald between January 2006 and July 2008.

Biegenwald was booked into the Putnam County jail Wednesday night on charges of capital sexual battery and lewd or lascivious behavior with a victim under the age of twelve. He is being held without bond.

We'll have the very latest tonight, on Action News at 6. 

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Man-accused-of-sexually-abusing-4-yr-old/cunekT6IyECYh-01g3-JLw.cspx


does this seem odd to anyone else? she called in May of this year and the alleged assault of this child "possibly" happened between January 2006 and July 2008...why did she wait so long to call? does this guy have a prior arrest for molesting children? is this a boyfriend of the mom's?

Very odd.

Perhaps we will find out later.

RANDY  DEAN  BIEGENWALD
SATSUMA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 8/6/2007 10:33:00 PM  - Booking#: 07-03549
Release Date & Time: 8/7/2007 1:40:05 AM
DOB: 3/28/1978 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
893.147-1   NARCOTIC EQUIP-POSSESS AND OR USE   M   1    $504.00    8/7/2007 1:38:30 AM
893.13-6b   MARIJUANA-POSSESS NOT MORE THAN 20 GRAMS   M   1    $504.00    8/7/2007 1:38:02 AM
                $1,008.00    

RANDY  DEAN  BIEGENWALD
SATSUMA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/16/2009 10:34:13 AM  - Booking#: 09-02008
Release Date & Time: 5/22/2009 11:05:23 AM
DOB: 3/28/1978 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
901.11-   CONTEMPT OF COURT    N   N    $1,000.00    
                $1,000.00    


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Blumonkey on August 07, 2009, 10:18:55 PM
O/T

RANDY  DEAN  BIEGENWALD
PALATKA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 8/5/2009 8:25:24 PM  - Booking#: 09-03217
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 3/28/1978 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
794.011-2a   SEX ASSLT BY 18 YOA OLDER SEX BATTERY VICT UNDER 12 YOA   F   C    $0.00    
800.04-5b   LEWD LASCV BEHAVIOR MOLEST VIC LESS 12YOA OFFENDER 18 YOA OR OLDER   F   L    $0.00    
                $0.00    



Man accused of sexually abusing 4 yr. old


Last Update: 2:53 pm

Investigators say Biegenwald sexually abused a young girl.
PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- A local man is accused sexually abusing a young girl. The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office arrested 31-year-old Randy Dean Biegenwald.

Investigators say they received a call from the girl's mother in May of this year She told them her four-year-old daughter was possibly victimized by Biegenwald between January 2006 and July 2008.

Biegenwald was booked into the Putnam County jail Wednesday night on charges of capital sexual battery and lewd or lascivious behavior with a victim under the age of twelve. He is being held without bond.

We'll have the very latest tonight, on Action News at 6. 

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Man-accused-of-sexually-abusing-4-yr-old/cunekT6IyECYh-01g3-JLw.cspx


does this seem odd to anyone else? she called in May of this year and the alleged assault of this child "possibly" happened between January 2006 and July 2008...why did she wait so long to call? does this guy have a prior arrest for molesting children? is this a boyfriend of the mom's?
Good question. And why did it take LE 3 months to arrest him? I am glad he is being held with
out bond. Putnam county appears to be a haven for child molesters and drug abusers. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 08, 2009, 12:32:48 AM
O/T

RANDY  DEAN  BIEGENWALD
PALATKA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 8/5/2009 8:25:24 PM  - Booking#: 09-03217
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 3/28/1978 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
794.011-2a   SEX ASSLT BY 18 YOA OLDER SEX BATTERY VICT UNDER 12 YOA   F   C    $0.00    
800.04-5b   LEWD LASCV BEHAVIOR MOLEST VIC LESS 12YOA OFFENDER 18 YOA OR OLDER   F   L    $0.00    
                $0.00    



Man accused of sexually abusing 4 yr. old


Last Update: 2:53 pm

Investigators say Biegenwald sexually abused a young girl.
PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- A local man is accused sexually abusing a young girl. The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office arrested 31-year-old Randy Dean Biegenwald.

Investigators say they received a call from the girl's mother in May of this year She told them her four-year-old daughter was possibly victimized by Biegenwald between January 2006 and July 2008.

Biegenwald was booked into the Putnam County jail Wednesday night on charges of capital sexual battery and lewd or lascivious behavior with a victim under the age of twelve. He is being held without bond.

We'll have the very latest tonight, on Action News at 6. 

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Man-accused-of-sexually-abusing-4-yr-old/cunekT6IyECYh-01g3-JLw.cspx


does this seem odd to anyone else? she called in May of this year and the alleged assault of this child "possibly" happened between January 2006 and July 2008...why did she wait so long to call? does this guy have a prior arrest for molesting children? is this a boyfriend of the mom's?
Good question. And why did it take LE 3 months to arrest him? I am glad he is being held with
out bond. Putnam county appears to be a haven for child molesters and drug abusers. ::MonkeyNoNo::

There was a warrant out for his arrest May 13, 2009 in Collier County. Occupation Mover.
had numerous addresses. 1 in San Mateo.... Wonder if Ron knew him..

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2009/may/13/police-beat-may-13/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 08, 2009, 12:38:44 AM
I dont know why the link didnt work I posted here another link.....
 ::MonkeyTongue::

Name: Biegenwald, Randy D.
Charge: WRIT OF BODILY ATTACHMENT
Residence: Naples
Age: 31
Occupation: Mover
Case #: O06-1483FD

http://www.naplesnews.com/photos/galleries/2009/may/13/collier-county-arrests-51309/70810/




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: sharlock on August 08, 2009, 08:03:19 AM

Does anyone know what became of the previous complaint made against Ronnie for trying to take his other son who he had no legal custody too?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 08, 2009, 11:58:28 AM
O/T

RANDY  DEAN  BIEGENWALD
PALATKA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 8/5/2009 8:25:24 PM  - Booking#: 09-03217
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 3/28/1978 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
794.011-2a   SEX ASSLT BY 18 YOA OLDER SEX BATTERY VICT UNDER 12 YOA   F   C    $0.00    
800.04-5b   LEWD LASCV BEHAVIOR MOLEST VIC LESS 12YOA OFFENDER 18 YOA OR OLDER   F   L    $0.00    
                $0.00    



Man accused of sexually abusing 4 yr. old


Last Update: 2:53 pm

Investigators say Biegenwald sexually abused a young girl.
PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- A local man is accused sexually abusing a young girl. The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office arrested 31-year-old Randy Dean Biegenwald.

Investigators say they received a call from the girl's mother in May of this year She told them her four-year-old daughter was possibly victimized by Biegenwald between January 2006 and July 2008.

Biegenwald was booked into the Putnam County jail Wednesday night on charges of capital sexual battery and lewd or lascivious behavior with a victim under the age of twelve. He is being held without bond.

We'll have the very latest tonight, on Action News at 6. 

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Man-accused-of-sexually-abusing-4-yr-old/cunekT6IyECYh-01g3-JLw.cspx


does this seem odd to anyone else? she called in May of this year and the alleged assault of this child "possibly" happened between January 2006 and July 2008...why did she wait so long to call? does this guy have a prior arrest for molesting children? is this a boyfriend of the mom's?
Good question. And why did it take LE 3 months to arrest him? I am glad he is being held with
out bond. Putnam county appears to be a haven for child molesters and drug abusers. ::MonkeyNoNo::

There was a warrant out for his arrest May 13, 2009 in Collier County. Occupation Mover.
had numerous addresses. 1 in San Mateo.... Wonder if Ron knew him..

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2009/may/13/police-beat-may-13/

On RANDY  DEAN  BIEGENWALD  Putnam County arrest records I see that it shows two different locations for him, one in Satsuma and one in Palatka.  Searching the white pages, I did not find an address for Randy, but there is one for a Stephen Biegenwald at 626 Kirby St, which is down around the Crill Ave (the Huddle House), 2.3 mi.

13.1 mi from the Green Ln address in Satsuma.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 08, 2009, 12:02:32 PM
Has the Justice for Haleigh Blog site been removed or are they just experiencing problems?

The following message is what I receive when I try to access it.

Blog has been removed

Sorry, the blog at justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com has been removed. This address is not available for new blogs.

Did you expect to see your blog here? See:'I can't find my blog on the Web, where is it?'


http://justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com/
I wonder  ::MonkeyConfused::

The cached page is still there and was updated yesterday:

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:rFZGJgflJLQJ:justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com/+justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Thanks Klaas.

Another poster told me that she had read somewhere today that the owner of the blog is on vacation for a week or so.

I guess we will see.

Well I suppose you could temporarily take it offline but why would you if you were only going on vacation?

Justice for Haleigh has a temporary site for now. JFH Blog has an explanation as to what happened.
http://justiceforhaleigh.wordpress.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 08, 2009, 12:06:17 PM
Police deny rumors that they found Haleigh's body

By CHAD SMITH  |  Posted: Saturday, August 8, 2009 ; Updated: 11:17 PM on Saturday, August 8, 2009


On Friday, the day Haleigh Cummings' mother announced an event to mark her missing daughter's sixth birthday in hopes of keeping the brown-eyed blonde in the news, police in Putnam County released a statement to quell a rumor that the girl's body had been found.

Lt. Johnny Greenwood, a spokesman for the Putnam County Sheriff's Office, said the department fielded three calls Friday from reporters who said they heard Haleigh was found dead, either in Putnam County or Jacksonville.

"We just want to get (the rumor) stopped before it gets to out of control," Greenwood said after sending an e-mail to media outlets stating the "rumor is false."


The reporters -- two from local outlets and the other from NBC -- did not say where they heard the rumor, he said.

Greenwood said the department reacted so quickly to the rumor because detectives did not want anyone thinking the case was closed.

"We don't want people to think this is over. They still need to look," he said. "Somebody out there knows something. Somebody out there has the one piece of information that we need to break this open."

Haleigh has been missing since Feb. 10, when she reportedly disappeared from her father's home in Satsuma, about 10 miles south of Palatka.

At about 3:30 that morning, Ronald Cummings' live-in 17-year-old girlfriend, Misty Croslin, called police to say Haleigh was gone.

Croslin, who has since married Cummings, told a dispatcher that she woke up and discovered the rear door to their manufactured home had been propped open.

She said she locked the door before going to bed.

On Friday morning, a spokeswoman sent out a statement from Crystal Sheffield, Haleigh's mother, pleading for the girl's return.

"I still have hope that my daughter will come home," the statement quoted Sheffield as saying. "I will continue to do whatever it takes to keep her face out in the public for everyone to see."

Sheffield, who lives in Glen St. Mary, announced an event would be held to mark Haleigh's birthday and to solicit school supplies for "students who are in need" at her school.

The event, at Riverfront Park in Palatka, is scheduled for Aug. 15 between 10 a.m. and 5 p.m. The girl's birthday is two days later.

The spokeswoman, Ellen Johnson, did not return phone calls or an e-mail left for comment.

Several events have kept Haleigh's face in the news after she went missing, but most stories have revolved around her family.

Cummings and Croslin's marriage in March was highly publicized, given his missing daughter and her age.

On Wednesday night, Cummings was arrested at his grandmother's home in Welaka after a fistfight with his wife's father and brother.

Cummings was charged with burglary with assault or battery, a first-degree felony, and was released from jail on bond Thursday.

He allegedly went into his in-laws' car as they were trying to leave and hit the brother.

Misty Cummings' brother told police she called him crying, saying she didn't want to be at home with her husband and asking for him to pick her up.

However, she denied asking for help and said she told her brother not to come over.

"We really don't know what the fight was about," Greenwood said.

Meantime, he wants the focus to stay on Haleigh.

The Sheriff's Office has received roughly 5,000 tips in the case, but few have been fruitful.

"A lot of tips are people's theories," he said. "We need good information."

http://www.staugustine.com/stories/080809/news_080809_035.shtml


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 08, 2009, 12:43:45 PM
Radio says:  LE did a search today in a wooded area in Welaka.

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,135.msg59610.html#msg59610


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 08, 2009, 01:43:57 PM
LL Papa says:

I got up early this morning and have spent a little time getting better acquainted with Putnam County, FL politics in general and Sheriff Jeff Hardy and the PCSO is particular. Some of what I’ve noted seems bizarre and unusual to say the very least.

From 2004 – 2009 the sheriff of Putnam County was Dean Kelly, but in a landslide victory Jeff Hardy defeated Sheriff Kelly for the office. Sheriff Kelly had 31 years experience as a law enforcement officer, but allegations of unrest within the sheriff’s department, corruption, and incompetence prevailed with the voters. Jeff Hardy was elected by a 67% to 33% margin.

From Sheriff Hardy’s resume on campaign literature it is apparent that his experience as a law enforcement officer is not exactly textbook “Colombo” as to investigations in general and missing child cases in particular. Newly elected Mr. Hardy had spent the previous 14 years as a School Resource Officer and Commander in charge of, among other things, school crossing guards and unruly children at school.

Sheriff Hardy took office on January 6th, 2009. On his first day on the job, Sheriff Hardy fired one third of the command staff of the Sheriff’s department after making this statement on August 27, 2008:

Quote
"I know all the command staff there. I have a relationship with them. I'm not going to go in there and fire everyone. But I will restructure the agency to make it more efficient."

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news...

Officers terminated included:

-Undersheriff, Colonel Scott Simmons

-Chief of Detectives, Major Keith Riddick

-Assistant Chief of Detectives Captain Rick Lashley

-Assistant Chief of Special Services Captain Phil Altice

-Assistant Chief of Corrections Captain Doug Rau

Combined, these Officers had put 117 years of service into the Putnam County Sheriff's Office.

Thirty three days later on February 10th, 2009, Haleigh Cummings vanished. After firing, among others, an experienced Chief of Detectives and Assistant Chief of Detectives, Sheriff Hardy has appointed 3 different lead Investigators to be responsible for Haleigh’s case. According to this article,

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/default.aspx

the latest chief investigator on Haleigh’s case appears to be Deputy Barney R. Fife Nelson, who listed Haleigh as a male and CS being 19 years old on his incident report on 2/10.

Remember this statement from the Jane Valez Mitchell show?

Quote
REV. TERRY WRIGHT, CUMMINGS FAMILY PASTOR: He told me absolutely not. He was not an informant for the Putnam County Sheriff`s Office. He was not an informant (UNINTELLIGIBLE). He was not an informant in any way, shape, and form. That`s not saying he didn`t do some things he regrets, but he was not an official informant. That is correct.

I spent an hour and a half with him last night. He told me last night -- we were out in the middle of the cold in North Florida. Believe it or not, it does get cold in North Florida. We were out in the middle of North Florida, and he told me this. He said, "Pastor," he said, "I kissed my daughter, went to work, trying to make an honest living, trying to make an honest wage. I came home eight hours later, and she was gone."

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/2...

Reverand Wright is the minister at Dunn’s Creek Baptist Church, and is Ronald Cumming’s Pastor.

Guess who else is also a member at Dunn’s Creek Baptist Church?

Quote
Sheriff Jeff Hardy is a member of Dunn's Creek Baptist Church

www.hardyforsheriff.com/page14.html

Does Haleigh Cummings even have a chance?

Somethings not right with this picture.

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topi...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Leroy on August 08, 2009, 02:11:31 PM
Police deny rumors that they found Haleigh's body

By CHAD SMITH  |  Posted: Saturday, August 8, 2009 ; Updated: 11:17 PM on Saturday, August 8, 2009


On Friday, the day Haleigh Cummings' mother announced an event to mark her missing daughter's sixth birthday in hopes of keeping the brown-eyed blonde in the news, police in Putnam County released a statement to quell a rumor that the girl's body had been found.

Lt. Johnny Greenwood, a spokesman for the Putnam County Sheriff's Office, said the department fielded three calls Friday from reporters who said they heard Haleigh was found dead, either in Putnam County or Jacksonville.

"We just want to get (the rumor) stopped before it gets to out of control," Greenwood said after sending an e-mail to media outlets stating the "rumor is false."


The reporters -- two from local outlets and the other from NBC -- did not say where they heard the rumor, he said.

Greenwood said the department reacted so quickly to the rumor because detectives did not want anyone thinking the case was closed.

"We don't want people to think this is over. They still need to look," he said. "Somebody out there knows something. Somebody out there has the one piece of information that we need to break this open."

---snipped---

http://www.staugustine.com/stories/080809/news_080809_035.shtml


And IMO that somebody's name is Misty


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 08, 2009, 02:21:20 PM
Now who would have started a rumor like that  ::MonkeyEek::  And a search today in a wooded area  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 08, 2009, 02:43:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/bVzvAOKmnUQ&hl=en&fs=1


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 08, 2009, 03:33:21 PM
Thank-you cece. I'm really wondering about how this rumor got started about Haleigh being found deceased.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 08, 2009, 04:02:05 PM
it is beyond me why anyone would start rumors like that about a missing child...
I just hope that the parents of Haleigh knew about this being a false rumor  in plenty of time before getting upset over it all... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 08, 2009, 04:02:56 PM
Police deny rumors that they found Haleigh's body

By CHAD SMITH  |  Posted: Saturday, August 8, 2009 ; Updated: 11:17 PM on Saturday, August 8, 2009


On Friday, the day Haleigh Cummings' mother announced an event to mark her missing daughter's sixth birthday in hopes of keeping the brown-eyed blonde in the news, police in Putnam County released a statement to quell a rumor that the girl's body had been found.

Lt. Johnny Greenwood, a spokesman for the Putnam County Sheriff's Office, said the department fielded three calls Friday from reporters who said they heard Haleigh was found dead, either in Putnam County or Jacksonville.

"We just want to get (the rumor) stopped before it gets to out of control," Greenwood said after sending an e-mail to media outlets stating the "rumor is false."


The reporters -- two from local outlets and the other from NBC -- did not say where they heard the rumor, he said.

Greenwood said the department reacted so quickly to the rumor because detectives did not want anyone thinking the case was closed.

"We don't want people to think this is over. They still need to look," he said. "Somebody out there knows something. Somebody out there has the one piece of information that we need to break this open."

---snipped---

http://www.staugustine.com/stories/080809/news_080809_035.shtml


And IMO that somebody's name is Misty

very true Leroy!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: clarice on August 08, 2009, 04:26:23 PM
[[/quote]Thanks, she will stand by her man.
[/quote]

Yep, till the money dries up!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Thunder Bunny on August 08, 2009, 04:43:08 PM
Thank you for the video Cece.
It was beautiful.

Makes me want to cry. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: SuzieQ on August 08, 2009, 05:05:03 PM
LL Papa says:

I got up early this morning and have spent a little time getting better acquainted with Putnam County, FL politics in general and Sheriff Jeff Hardy and the PCSO is particular. Some of what I’ve noted seems bizarre and unusual to say the very least.

From 2004 – 2009 the sheriff of Putnam County was Dean Kelly, but in a landslide victory Jeff Hardy defeated Sheriff Kelly for the office. Sheriff Kelly had 31 years experience as a law enforcement officer, but allegations of unrest within the sheriff’s department, corruption, and incompetence prevailed with the voters. Jeff Hardy was elected by a 67% to 33% margin.

From Sheriff Hardy’s resume on campaign literature it is apparent that his experience as a law enforcement officer is not exactly textbook “Colombo” as to investigations in general and missing child cases in particular. Newly elected Mr. Hardy had spent the previous 14 years as a School Resource Officer and Commander in charge of, among other things, school crossing guards and unruly children at school.

Sheriff Hardy took office on January 6th, 2009. On his first day on the job, Sheriff Hardy fired one third of the command staff of the Sheriff’s department after making this statement on August 27, 2008:

Quote
"I know all the command staff there. I have a relationship with them. I'm not going to go in there and fire everyone. But I will restructure the agency to make it more efficient."

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news...

Officers terminated included:

-Undersheriff, Colonel Scott Simmons

-Chief of Detectives, Major Keith Riddick

-Assistant Chief of Detectives Captain Rick Lashley

-Assistant Chief of Special Services Captain Phil Altice

-Assistant Chief of Corrections Captain Doug Rau

Combined, these Officers had put 117 years of service into the Putnam County Sheriff's Office.

Thirty three days later on February 10th, 2009, Haleigh Cummings vanished. After firing, among others, an experienced Chief of Detectives and Assistant Chief of Detectives, Sheriff Hardy has appointed 3 different lead Investigators to be responsible for Haleigh’s case. According to this article,

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/default.aspx

the latest chief investigator on Haleigh’s case appears to be Deputy Barney R. Fife Nelson, who listed Haleigh as a male and CS being 19 years old on his incident report on 2/10.

Remember this statement from the Jane Valez Mitchell show?

Quote
REV. TERRY WRIGHT, CUMMINGS FAMILY PASTOR: He told me absolutely not. He was not an informant for the Putnam County Sheriff`s Office. He was not an informant (UNINTELLIGIBLE). He was not an informant in any way, shape, and form. That`s not saying he didn`t do some things he regrets, but he was not an official informant. That is correct.

I spent an hour and a half with him last night. He told me last night -- we were out in the middle of the cold in North Florida. Believe it or not, it does get cold in North Florida. We were out in the middle of North Florida, and he told me this. He said, "Pastor," he said, "I kissed my daughter, went to work, trying to make an honest living, trying to make an honest wage. I came home eight hours later, and she was gone."
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/2...

Reverand Wright is the minister at Dunn’s Creek Baptist Church, and is Ronald Cumming’s Pastor.

Guess who else is also a member at Dunn’s Creek Baptist Church?

Quote
Sheriff Jeff Hardy is a member of Dunn's Creek Baptist Church

www.hardyforsheriff.com/page14.html

Does Haleigh Cummings even have a chance?

Somethings not right with this picture.

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topi...


So in Ron's own words, he only worked an 8 hour shift.  So when did he start work?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: clarice on August 08, 2009, 05:32:11 PM
If he worked eight hours then it must have been 4 to 12am or 7 to 3.am

Either way, makes three hours to accoutn for.

::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 08, 2009, 06:25:26 PM
Thank-you cece. I'm really wondering about how this rumor got started about Haleigh being found deceased.

Me too no rose.  I hope someone gets to the bottom of it & soon.

If Haleigh is still alive, it is time she was brought home.

If Haleigh is no longer alive, it is still time for her to be brought home.

 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 08, 2009, 06:26:53 PM
Thank you for the video Cece.
It was beautiful.

Makes me want to cry. 

Me too, Thunder Bunny, me too.   ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 08, 2009, 06:39:19 PM
It's a beautifully done video


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 08, 2009, 06:47:29 PM
Location of this fire is approximately 6 miles from 202 Green Lane.  Posting just in case needed in future.


Houseboat, dock structure destroyed by afternoon fire (Watch Video Here)

By Chris DeVitto
Published: Saturday, August 8, 2009 4:38 PM EDT
Watch Video  http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/08/08/news/news01.tnv


SATSUMA - Riverside firefighters responding to a houseboat fire on Cleo Lane were met with an unusual sight, Fire Chief Ray Steybe said.

"I don't ever remember chasing a fire down the river - this is a first," Steybe said.

"I literally watched my fire floating down the river."

Steybe said when his units arrived at 121 Cleo Lane at about 3 p.m. Friday they were met with a houseboat (about 60 feet in length) fully engulfed and an adjacent small dockside apartment burning.

"We had to go to a second alarm because the houseboat broke loose and floated into the channel (on Dunns Creek)," he said.

Twelve units from Pomona Park, Satsuma, San Mateo, Crescent City and Palatka fire departments were dispatched for the two-alarm fire, he added.

Firefighters extinguished the apartment fire within 30 minutes. Nearby residents took to their boats and kept the burning remains of the floating home in the center of Dunns Creek away from any other homes or docks.

Steybe said no one was in the apartment or in the houseboat when the fire occurred and there were no injuries to firefighters who fought the two blazes.

Putnam County Fire Marshal Allen Peacock said the fire started on the boat before spreading to the dockside apartment.

"We are still trying to ascertain where the fire started on the boat," he said.

Peacock said this fire was a little bit unusual because of the boat floating away.

"No one was home at the time of the fire and we are being assisted by the state fire marshal's office during the investigation," he said.

Neighbor John Beeson said when he ran to the dock he saw that the apartment and boat were fully engulfed.

"I've never seen anything like that before," he said.

"When the houseboat broke loose and floated downstream where there were houses, we were afraid it would burn them."

Resident Ruby Bangs said when she came out of her back door she saw black smoke.

"The houseboat was on fire really bad," she said. "It must have caught the apartment on fire."

Bangs said when the boat broke loose from its moorings, it started to float into a nearby canal.

"It was going into the first canal and fishermen got it and pulled it to the center of Dunns Creek," she said.

Steybe said Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission officers towed the boat to a grassy area near the north shore of Dunns Creek where it wouldn't threaten any structures while the fire was extinguished.

The boat was later moved back to its original mooring.

"The houseboat and the apartment are both total losses," he said.

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/08/08/news/news01.txt


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 08, 2009, 07:17:31 PM
[
Thanks, she will stand by her man.
[/quote]

Yep, till the money dries up!
[/quote] Yes


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 08, 2009, 09:45:20 PM
Cece..thank you for that video...so sad to see it but yet it was beautiful

I think that both Ron and Crystal have done some very wrong things, maybe have not always made the right decisions and have made mistakes along the way, haven't we all?  but I have no doubt in my mind that BOTH of these parents love this child very much and want her back home with her family...JMO.....they both need some parenting classes ....I think that they are probably doing the best that they can do with the "tools" that they have been given to work with....I hope that they both get a second chance with Haleigh..with some healthy parenting classes behind them...jmo.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 09, 2009, 09:42:29 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-lochaleigh-cummings-six-months-080909aug09,0,502551.story

Cops have few clues in case of Haleigh Cummings, girl missing for months
By Anika Myers Palm

Sentinel staff writer

August 9, 2009

Six months ago, 5-year-old Haleigh Ann-Marie Cummings vanished after her father's girlfriend put her to bed.

The 3-foot, 3-inch girl from Satsuma hasn't been seen since.

In the ensuing months, deputies have continued a search for Haleigh that has brought few clues since the early days of the case, and her family has faced media and law-enforcement scrutiny.

"It's still an active case; we have the same investigators assigned," Lt. Johnny Greenwood of the Putnam County Sheriff's Office said. "Every tip that comes in, we investigate."

In the days after Haleigh's disappearance, family members made several television appearances to plead for the little girl's return. They have been less vocal recently.

The Florida Department of Children and Families investigated child-abuse claims against Ronald Cummings, 25, Haleigh's father, made by the girl's mother, Crystal Sheffield. At the time of his daughter's disappearance, Cummings lived with Haleigh, 3-year-old son Ronald Jr. and his 17-year-old girlfriend, Misty Croslin. Cummings and Croslin married in March.

Greg Kimball, an attorney with the Palatka firm of Kimball and Snider, represented the Cummings family from about a month after Haleigh's disappearance until DCF closed its case in July with no findings of abuse.

"I don't think we have any plans to get back into the fray," Kimball said.

Cummings was arrested last week at his grandmother's house in Welaka after a fight with some of his wife's relatives.

Hank Croslin Jr., brother of Misty Cummings, said Ronald Cummings hit him several times. Cummings was booked into the Putnam County Jail on Thursday morning on a charge of burglary with assault or battery. He later posted bail of $12,504 and left the jail.

Sheffield, who lives in Baker County not far from the Georgia line, said Friday in a prepared statement that she still is hoping for her daughter's safe return.

"Haleigh is about to be 6 years old, I am begging once again from the bottom of my heart for whoever has my sweet daughter to let her go," Sheffield wrote.

Misty Cummings said she put Haleigh to bed about 10 p.m. Feb. 9 and woke about 3:30 a.m. to find the girl missing. She called 911. Ronald Cummings then joined the call when he returned home from work, saying he needed assistance and would kill the person who had taken his daughter.

Deputies noted that, although a screen door at the home had been propped open, there was no sign of forced entry.

No suspects have emerged in the search for Haleigh.

There have been no breakthroughs in the case — and sometimes tips have been counterproductive.

Just last week, Greenwood had to publicly deny an unconfirmed rumor that the girl's body had been found.

"We didn't need that misinformation getting out to the public," he said.

Although the Sheriff's Office still considers the Haleigh investigation to be a missing-persons case, one of the two investigators assigned to the case is a homicide detective.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office asks anyone with information about Haleigh's disappearance to call Crime Stoppers at 1-888-277-8477.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: JessStar on August 09, 2009, 09:47:52 AM
This poor child.  I pray she's in a safe place away from these lunatics.  God willing . . .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 09, 2009, 09:49:26 AM
snip from Klaas article:

"Although the Sheriff's Office still considers the Haleigh investigation to be a missing-persons case, one of the two investigators assigned to the case is a homicide detective."



that doesn't sound good...

morning all....hope that we hear something soon...for Haleigh's sake...




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 09, 2009, 09:54:21 AM
snip from Klaas article:

"Although the Sheriff's Office still considers the Haleigh investigation to be a missing-persons case, one of the two investigators assigned to the case is a homicide detective."



that doesn't sound good...

morning all....hope that we hear something soon...for Haleigh's sake...



Morning, it also doesn't sound good that they have few clues.


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Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 09, 2009, 11:22:03 AM
Just Thinking Out Loud.... Follow the trail

Bards own lot 202 Green Ln ...Where Ron was renting.

Bards own 204 Green LN.... Now I know the Bard's can not be living in all the properties they own in Florida.. Who is renting or living @ 204 Green Ln..

Bard Donald + Phyllis H/w Name Code Parcels (Putnam County GIS Interactive Mapping) 
995 Ebenezer Church Rd Needmore Pa 172388702  82610 1   

Parcel 911 Addresses
204 Green Ln, Satsuma [320]   (MapQuest Map) 

Structure Data
Type Year Area Square Feet
Mobile Home 1987 Base 840
    Carport Unfinished 336
    Screen Porch Unfinished 338

Extra Feature Data
Code Descriptions
1 Walks
14 Central A/c - M/h


Special Building Data
Code Size Square Footage Descriptions
DUTU 9X10 90 Detached Utility Unfinished

http://www.putnam-fl.com/palookup/main.php

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/204greenlane.jpg)







Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 09, 2009, 11:27:19 AM
Thanks Jerseygirl.      "I don't think we have any plans to get back into the fray," Kimball said.   I find this to be a very telling statement from Ron's ex lawyer.


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Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 09, 2009, 11:37:13 AM
Thanks Jerseygirl.      "I don't think we have any plans to get back into the fray," Kimball said.   I find this to be a very telling statement from Ron's ex lawyer.

I read that article Klaas posted.. It make you wonder why Le can set aside certain rumors but why can't they set aside other rumors... Like for instance Ron's work hours was it 8 or 10 and if it was 8 did he get in work late was he on time ect.. LE is so closed lip and today its been 6 months and no Haleigh... I wonder if this closed lip case is hurting LE on finding Haleigh...

Where Is Haleigh... ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: Heart on August 09, 2009, 11:40:03 AM
Good Morning all!

Haleigh Cummings – BNN Radio Aug/9
Posted on August 9th, 2009
by Simon Barrett in crime


We will be running our regular Blog Talk Radio program this afternoon at 3pm Central. The focus will be on recent developments in the Haleigh Cummings investigation.

Our panel will be the regulars, the Barretts, Denny Griffin, TJ Hart, and William “Cobra” Staubs.

more...

http://www.bloggernews.net/121832


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 09, 2009, 12:27:09 PM
Thanks Jerseygirl.      "I don't think we have any plans to get back into the fray," Kimball said.   I find this to be a very telling statement from Ron's ex lawyer.

I read that article Klaas posted.. It make you wonder why Le can set aside certain rumors but why can't they set aside other rumors... Like for instance Ron's work hours was it 8 or 10 and if it was 8 did he get in work late was he on time ect.. LE is so closed lip and today its been 6 months and no Haleigh... I wonder if this closed lip case is hurting LE on finding Haleigh...

Where Is Haleigh... ::MonkeyAngel::
I just don't know anymore, and the fact that there is only two detectives working on this case, if I read that correctly.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 09, 2009, 12:27:36 PM
Thanks Heart  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 09, 2009, 02:00:17 PM
I did a reverse address look up and it had this person living at 204 Green Lane, Satsuma , Florida.. On white pages... ::MonkeyTongue::

Tresha C Wright
204 Green Ln
Satsuma, FL 32189-2859
Age: 30-34


http://www.whitepages.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 09, 2009, 03:21:49 PM
This poor child.  I pray she's in a safe place away from these lunatics.  God willing . . .
::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: Searching on August 09, 2009, 03:36:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/user/floodofnoah#play/all/uploads-all/0/XEHt_TZ4qu4


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Thunder Bunny on August 09, 2009, 06:48:45 PM
You know how transcripts have been know to be wrong?  Transposed incorrectly?  You know how if I tell someone something and then they are under pressure (say, camera) to repeat it and they repeat it wrong?  Or if I tell my mother in law I'm going to work and she doesn't stop and think I work twelve and fourteen hour shifts, in her mind I work eight....I'm just wondering if the Preacher "said" it wrong.  Or if in his mind everyone works eight hours....I sure would like to ask him. 

Course, as you all say, it's stupid that LE hasn't come right out and TOLD us what hours Ronald worked.  Would clear ONE QUESTION off the desk.  Sheesh.  Jersey, you might be right...them withholding could very well be hurting the case and causing these rumors that they spend so much time putting out. 


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Post by: Searching on August 09, 2009, 07:09:05 PM
Bringing from AH. I felt the more, the better.

Quote from: 2Spunky on Today at 01:34:42 PM
I was asked on behalf of the families to post this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
 
 
First Baptist Church of Welaka                                             
638 3rd Avenue
Welaka, FL 32193
(386) 467-3251
August 16, 2009
Time: 3:00 PM
 
 
"Prayers of Love and Hope for HaLeigh's Safe Return"
 
Please join Ronald Cummings and family in "Prayers of Love and Hope for HaLeigh's Safe Return".
 
Five year old HaLeigh Ann Marie Cummings has been missing since the early morning hours of February 10th, 2009.
 
Ronald Cummings pleads, “Bring my baby home, I love and miss her with all my heart.”
 
To HaLeigh, Mr. Cummings says, “HaLeigh, Baby, I will never stop looking for you”.
 
Her family invites everyone to share in this service of hope and prayer with Pastor Mike Stanley.
 
Please come and join in a candle lighting chain of Love and Hope.
 
The service will be held on the front lawn at First Baptist Church of Welaka.
Sunday, August 16, 2009 at 3:00 PM.
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 09, 2009, 07:16:22 PM
Bringing from AH. I felt the more, the better.

Quote from: 2Spunky on Today at 01:34:42 PM
I was asked on behalf of the families to post this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
 
 
First Baptist Church of Welaka                                             
638 3rd Avenue
Welaka, FL 32193
(386) 467-3251
August 16, 2009
Time: 3:00 PM
 
 
"Prayers of Love and Hope for HaLeigh's Safe Return"
 
Please join Ronald Cummings and family in "Prayers of Love and Hope for HaLeigh's Safe Return".
 
Five year old HaLeigh Ann Marie Cummings has been missing since the early morning hours of February 10th, 2009.
 
Ronald Cummings pleads, “Bring my baby home, I love and miss her with all my heart.”
 
To HaLeigh, Mr. Cummings says, “HaLeigh, Baby, I will never stop looking for you”.
 
Her family invites everyone to share in this service of hope and prayer with Pastor Mike Stanley.
 
Please come and join in a candle lighting chain of Love and Hope.
 
The service will be held on the front lawn at First Baptist Church of Welaka.
Sunday, August 16, 2009 at 3:00 PM.
 

Thank you Searching!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 09, 2009, 07:26:18 PM
Bringing from AH. I felt the more, the better.

Quote from: 2Spunky on Today at 01:34:42 PM
I was asked on behalf of the families to post this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
 
 
First Baptist Church of Welaka                                             
638 3rd Avenue
Welaka, FL 32193
(386) 467-3251
August 16, 2009
Time: 3:00 PM
 
 
"Prayers of Love and Hope for HaLeigh's Safe Return"
 
Please join Ronald Cummings and family in "Prayers of Love and Hope for HaLeigh's Safe Return".
 
Five year old HaLeigh Ann Marie Cummings has been missing since the early morning hours of February 10th, 2009.
 
Ronald Cummings pleads, “Bring my baby home, I love and miss her with all my heart.”
 
To HaLeigh, Mr. Cummings says, “HaLeigh, Baby, I will never stop looking for you”.
 
Her family invites everyone to share in this service of hope and prayer with Pastor Mike Stanley.
 
Please come and join in a candle lighting chain of Love and Hope.
 
The service will be held on the front lawn at First Baptist Church of Welaka.
Sunday, August 16, 2009 at 3:00 PM.
 

Thank you Searching!
Your welcome.   ::MonkeyAngel:: Praying for Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 09, 2009, 07:38:12 PM
Fury says:

Please excuse me for butting in, but the Saturday print edition of The Palatka Daily News had coverage about the search south of Welaka. Since the newspaper is put to bed well before midnight the night before, the search of Mud Springs was done on Friday.

Headline of story reads: No sign of Haleigh in Friday Search.

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,136.msg60646.html#msg60646


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 09, 2009, 09:59:58 PM
thank you Searching for the article from AH...

in regards to the hours that Ron worked,,,it is what the pastor said, not what Ron had said and could very well have been said wrong... as Thunder stated above....jmo....the standard for working a shift is normally 8 hr shifts, so perhaps that is where that came from?
I agree, something like that could easily be cleared up by LE...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 09, 2009, 10:31:43 PM
Haleigh's family remains divided 6 months later

Grandmother wants peace but sees too many issues

    * By Dana Treen
    * Story updated at 7:27 PM on Sunday, Aug. 9, 2009

Six months into the unsolved disappearance of Haleigh Cummings, those who deeply love her believe she is still alive.

It’s about the only thing the two families closest to the investigation of her disappearance agree on.

With Monday marking the six-month anniversary of her case and next week’s arrival of her sixth birthday, her divided family has even scheduled separate events in Putnam County.

“It doesn’t matter what anybody says, we just want the safe return of Haleigh,” said Annette Sykes, whose grandson Ronald Cummings is Haleigh’s father. “Nothing else matters.”

Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, the long-estranged parents of Haleigh and her 4-year-old brother Ronald Jr., see each other only to exchange the boy at a pre-arranged stop in Florahome, about midway between Cummings’ home in southern Putnam County and Sheffield’s in western Baker County.

Tension between Cummings, Sheffield and their families has hummed like high-voltage background noise since the beginning of the case.

Sheffield’s mother, Marie Griffis, said law enforcement authorities have asked the two families not to have contact beyond the exchanges of Ronald Jr.

“I feel like that maybe if the families could speak with each other and put differences aside that maybe it would help the case, but there is too much going on down there and it is being pushed our way to blame us for what happened in Putnam County,” Griffis said from her home outside Sanderson where Sheffield also lives.

She said her family has been accused of abducting Haleigh and hiding her with family out of state.

She said she has no idea how her granddaughter vanished but said the kindergartner was living with Cummings and his 17-year-old girlfriend when she was reported missing.

“I don’t know what, I don’t know how but they were the last people to see my granddaughter,” Griffis said. “They’re the last two people to see her. They’re accountable for her whereabouts.”

Cummings said he and former girlfriend Misty Croslin — who he has since married and is now Misty Cummings — have been unfairly targeted.

“There should have been more attention to Crystal’s family,” he said. “I think they should have paid more attention to everyone rather than just me and Misty.”

He said questioning should have been broader.

“They didn’t have the big picture,” he said. “Why do they not question everybody?”

Cummings: It went ‘personal’

In recent interviews at Sykes’ Welaka home where Ronald Cummings, 25, and his wife live, he told the Times-Union the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office focus was shortsighted.

Standing outside wearing T-shirts with Haleigh’s likeness, Ronald and Misty Cummings said they gave dozens of hours of interviews in February and March, including her longest, which she said occurred just before the couple were married.

“I think the longest time I was in there was eight hours,” she said.

Ronald Cummings said the investigation went in the wrong direction.

“They took a child-abduction investigation and made it a personal investigation,” he said. “Instead of keeping the focus on finding Haleigh, they made the focus on Misty and what she was doing one weekend and what happened six months ago and what happened seven years ago. It was tunnel vision.”

Cummings has cut off interviews with investigators.

“Besides ‘No I didn’t have nothing to do with my child being missing,’ what do you say?” he asked.

Maj. Gary Bowling, director of law enforcement for the department, said detectives would like to interview Cummings again but have been resisted.

The interviews with Misty Cummings have produced different pictures, he said. She was alone with Cummings’ children the night Haleigh disappeared. She has told authorities she woke up about 3 a.m. and found the 5-year-old missing.

“We’ve said from day one Misty’s story is absolutely filled with inconsistencies,” Bowling said.

Cummings was at work the night his daughter vanished and came home as the 911 call to authorities was being made.

He has not worked since that last night shift, then lost his job because he did not stay in contact, according to the company. Cummings said he has not been able to find another job and does not know if he can go back to work.

“Each day gets harder and harder,” he said.

He moved from the mobile home where Haleigh vanished and said he still cannot go there.

“We don’t even want to be in that area,” he said.

Cummings, who has a minor criminal background, was arrested early Thursday after an altercation with a brother of his wife and her parents.

Sykes, who saw part of the fight, said Cummings’ arrest was another difficult turn, a distraction from an attempt to heighten awareness of Haleigh’s disappearance.

“We’re trying to do something positive for Haleigh and then something like this happens,” she said Thursday.

Theories abound

Pressures have come from all sides and been kept alive on the Web where bloggers argue and speculate, said family members and others in the case.

Griffis said she has become accustomed to accusations.

“If  there is inconsistencies that the police know about on our side of the family, they need to come question us,” she said. “I want them to question us.”

Mainstream media attention has waned, she said.

“All the interest is just that, it is in the blogs,” she said.

She has been accused of masterminding an abduction, that Haleigh is somewhere with other family members, she said.

She has asked to take a lie detector test and was given a voice stress analysis.

The next step should be for detectives to name those who are no longer suspects, she said.

“You need to start excluding the people that you know do not have this information,” she said.

Bowling said it takes rock-solid alibis before detectives can eliminate anyone and those have not been established. He said the best that can be done is assign degrees of suspicion to people.

“Where is the responsibility in saying somebody is not a suspect?” he said.

Sheffield, 24, is more blunt about Cummings.

“I really do feel like he is covering for Misty and she is covering for him,” she said.

In the early months of the case, a small, vacant building in Satsuma was painted purple and opened as an information center and informal listening post near the Satsuma neighborhood where Haleigh disappeared.

The Haleighbug Center was closed after Sheffield had medical problems that included seizures. Shirts and posters, donated toys and other items were brought to Baker County where Sheffield lives on family property with her fiance, their toddler daughter and his two children.

“I searched all I could down there,” she said. “My body couldn’t take it.

“Sometimes I sit and I think and I think and I think about where she could be and it drives me crazy.”

Griffis said the sense of loss deepens every day.

“It is just a lot of not knowing,” she said. “We are constantly questioning why this happened.”

Not giving up

Posters with Haleigh’s face that were once pasted to storefronts and car windows are fewer and fewer.

At Ronies Food in Glen St. Mary, a laminated poster still stands beneath a window sign advertising a lunch menu.

Jamie Taylor, whose family owns the restaurant, said taking it down would be like giving up. She said it seemed as if detectives never had much to go on.

“It’s kind of hard to take it down,” she said. “I know if it was my daughter I wouldn’t take it down until she was found.”

Both families hold on to the belief that Haleigh is alive and have organized reminders of her upcoming birthday and that it’s been six months since she’s been seen.

“I believe she is still alive,” Griffis said. “And that Ronald and Misty they are the key to it.”

Among the events will be a school supply drop-off and a prayer vigil the families have organized independently. A balloon release is scheduled to increase awareness that she remains gone.

“We don’t want World War III,” Sykes said. “It doesn’t matter what anybody says we just want the safe return of Haleigh.”

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-08-09/story/haleighs_family_remains_divided_6_months_later


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 10, 2009, 12:04:34 AM
You know how transcripts have been know to be wrong?  Transposed incorrectly?  You know how if I tell someone something and then they are under pressure (say, camera) to repeat it and they repeat it wrong?  Or if I tell my mother in law I'm going to work and she doesn't stop and think I work twelve and fourteen hour shifts, in her mind I work eight....I'm just wondering if the Preacher "said" it wrong.  Or if in his mind everyone works eight hours....I sure would like to ask him. 

Course, as you all say, it's stupid that LE hasn't come right out and TOLD us what hours Ronald worked.  Would clear ONE QUESTION off the desk.  Sheesh.  Jersey, you might be right...them withholding could very well be hurting the case and causing these rumors that they spend so much time putting out. 

This is so confusing on Ron's work hours that day. I also remember readin in the news paper that Ron work 8 hours and now i am going to have to dig it up again but i did find this article...

Misty is the key to the investigation and we are trying to work through inconsistencies in her account of the critical time period," Bowling said.

Investigators also met Wednesday with Cummings, he said.

"We are satisfied with the interviews that we have had so far with Ronald, and his account of the eight hours in question," Bowling added.

http://www.zimbio.com/Misty+Croslin/articles/27/Haleigh+Cummings+new+stepmother+not+cleared


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 10, 2009, 12:10:48 AM
If the 8 hours of his work shift is correct then it explains the timeline from 7pm to 3am..

PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- After Ronald Cummings and his new wife, Misty Croslin Cummings, appeared on The Today Show Friday morning, the Putnam County Sheriff's Office commented on what was said.

For the first time, investigators mentioned their concerns about inconsistencies with Misty Cummings' story about what happened the night 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings disappeared.

Captain Dick Schauland confirmed Friday morning that investigators do have concerns about the timeline Misty has provided.

Schauland told First Coast News, "What happened during that eight-hour time period from 7 p.m. to 3 a.m. when she found the child missing and what occurred during that time is what [investigators] are trying to straighten out."

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=133696&provider=top


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 10, 2009, 08:18:31 AM
  HaLeigh Cummings’ Grandmother, Teresa Neves, Brutally Interrogated and Threatened with Imprisonment by Putnam County Sheriff’s officials

listen http://writeintoaction.com/HaLeigh%20Cummings%20Staubs%20Holmseth%20Putnam%20Threaten%20Teresa%20Neves.mp3

August 7, 2009

by Timothy Charles Holmseth

At a scheduled meeting on Monday, July 13 between Putnam County Sheriff’s Department officials and Teresa Neves, paternal grandmother of missing five year-old HaLeigh Cumming, PCSD officials viciously berated the heart-sick grandmother and threatened her with imprisonment.

  The only people present at the private meeting were Putnam County Sheriff’s Department officials: Detective Peggy Cone, Captain Dominic Piscatello, Undersheriff Rick Ryan, as well as Teresa Neves.

Within hours of that meeting Ft. Lauderdale Private Detective William ‘Cobra’ Staubs, who says he has contacts, knew all the details of what was done and said at the meeting.

Staubs’ version is consistent with others who know about the meeting (audio attached.)

“They tore her ass up,” Staubs said. “Listen man, she could be committing suicide tonight, I mean, it was that bad,” he said. “Man they got her f---in crying man - they tore her ass up. They tore her ass up!”

“She went to the cop station to find out what happened to her f----n grand-daughter,” Staubs said, expressing dismay at what the officials did to Neves. “That’s f----in grandma man! Grandma lost her kid!”

According to Staubs, the officials were accusing Neves of disclosing their investigative tactics.

“[The police] are going to send everybody out,” Staubs said, disclosing a prediction he received from his inside source at the department. “They’re going to start threatening everybody. They’re trying to control it.”   

Expressing outrage at the recent tactics of the PCSD as it appears to become more and more paranoid each day, Staubs said the investigation seems to be hopelessly challenged and is in need of an investigation conducted solely by the FBI.

“You better figure out what you’re going to do. Are you going put an innocent grandma who’s hurting, looking for her kid, in jail? Or are you going to get the right police on this case?” Staubs said.   The only people present at the private meeting were Putnam County Sheriff’s Department officials: Detective Peggy Cone, Captain Dominic Piscatello, Undersheriff Rick Ryan, as well as Teresa Neves.

Within hours of that meeting Ft. Lauderdale Private Detective William ‘Cobra’ Staubs, who says he has contacts, knew all the details of what was done and said at the meeting.

Staubs’ version is consistent with others who know about the meeting (audio attached.)

“They tore her ass up,” Staubs said. “Listen man, she could be committing suicide tonight, I mean, it was that bad,” he said. “Man they got her f---in crying man - they tore her ass up. They tore her ass up!”

“She went to the cop station to find out what happened to her f----n grand-daughter,” Staubs said, expressing dismay at what the officials did to Neves. “That’s f----in grandma man! Grandma lost her kid!”

According to Staubs, the officials were accusing Neves of disclosing their investigative tactics.

“[The police] are going to send everybody out,” Staubs said, disclosing a prediction he received from his inside source at the department. “They’re going to start threatening everybody. They’re trying to control it.”   

Expressing outrage at the recent tactics of the PCSD as it appears to become more and more paranoid each day, Staubs said the investigation seems to be hopelessly challenged and is in need of an investigation conducted solely by the FBI.

“You better figure out what you’re going to do. Are you going put an innocent grandma who’s hurting, looking for her kid, in jail? Or are you going to get the right police on this case?” Staubs said.

http://writeintoaction.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 10, 2009, 09:01:33 AM
HaLeigh Ann-Marie Cummings Missing for Six Months and Birthday School Supply Drive Event Planned

        Missing Five Year Old HaLeigh Cummings. (PRNewsFoto/Crystal Sheffield)

GLEN ST. MARY, FL UNITED STATES
   
   
 
Missing Five Year Old HaLeigh Ann-Marie Cummings from Satsuma, Florida

GLEN ST. MARY, Fla., Aug. 10 /PRNewswire/ -- HaLeigh Cummings disappeared from her home in Satsuma, Florida, approximately 75 miles east of Gainesville, during the early morning hours of February 10, 2009. She is 3' tall and weighs 39 pounds. She has blonde hair and brown eyes. It has now been six months since her disappearance.


HaLeigh's mother Crystal Sheffield continues to search for her daughter and is not giving up her fight.

"Although it has almost been six months since HaLeigh's disappearance, I still have hope that my daughter will come home. I will continue to do whatever it takes to keep her face out in the public for everyone to see. I ask if anyone out there knows anything to please call Crime Stoppers or your local police. HaLeigh is about to be six years old, I am begging once again from the bottom of my heart for whoever has my sweet daughter to let her go. Please, she needs to be home with her family, she does not belong with anyone else. This is tearing my heart out of my chest, a part of me is missing and that is HaLeigh. Every day I wake up wondering if I will get a call saying they found my angel. HaLeigh, mommy and daddy love you more than anything in this world, we will never give up on you. Someone out there knows something, please just let someone know if you do. I will not mention your name, all I want is my daughter home safe and sound. I LOVE YOU ALWAYS HALEIGH. - Crystal Sheffield (Mommy)."

HaLeigh's maternal grandmother Marie Griffis has not given up the fight either.

"It's been an agonizing six months since my granddaughter's disappearance and it is pure torture waking up each morning wondering where she may be; if she is okay, if she is being fed, clothed and given 'love' most of all. More importantly is where is HaLeigh? I never imagined ever having to go through such pain, but we will get up and continue in our daily task of finding HaLeigh. Although there have been obstacles in the way that have slowed us almost to a stop in our search for HaLeigh, we have pushed through that and now are back on track. This is just the beginning of our efforts to find HaLeigh. We will never stop looking for HaLeigh and never give up even when the road gets rough, it's rough every day but we will prevail.

Please, if anyone has information pertaining to HaLeigh's disappearance, please call and report it to the authorities listed. I beg that if you have HaLeigh. please just drop her off somewhere; in a hospital, fire department, local supermarket or shopping mall. Someone out there has her or knows what happened! I am begging of you, please come forward so we can end this nightmare. Tell someone what you know, I wouldn't want anyone to have to go through this kind of pain."

The Sheffield / Griffis Family are sending this information to the entire Southeastern Unites States to ask that the public please keep an eye out for HaLeigh wherever they might live. Anyone with information on her whereabouts is asked to contact the Putnam County Sheriff's Office at 386-329-0808 or Crime Stoppers at 1-888-277-TIPS. The link to the FBI Missing Person page for HaLeigh is http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/cummings_h.htm. A reward of $35,000 is available for information leading to her recovery or the conviction of anyone involved in her disappearance. You may remain anonymous.

Along with the six month mark of HaLeigh's disappearance, a very special event is also soon approaching - HaLeigh's Sixth Birthday on August 17, 2009. In honor of HaLeigh Cummings' Sixth Birthday, her family will be working with HaLeigh's school, Browning Pearce Elementary School on collecting school supplies that will be stored and distributed to students who are in need. The Sheffield / Griffis Family is calling this effort "HaLeigh's Closet" to honor HaLeigh's belief that "Sharing is Caring". Children in need of school supplies will be able to go to "HaLeigh's Closet" to get these supplies.

Please help us to honor this special day by visiting us at Riverfront Park in Palatka, Florida on Saturday, August 15th from 10:00 AM to 5:00 PM to drop off your donations of school supplies for "HaLeigh's Closet". HaLeigh's school has grades Pre-K through 5th grade. A school supply list can be found at http://www.putnamschools.org/index/SchoolSupplyList.pdf. All supplies will be immediately delivered to the school for later distribution by the faculty.

If anyone would like to help in honoring HaLeigh and cannot attend the event, you can purchase supplies online at www.staples.com and have them shipped to HaLeigh's grandmother Marie Griffis, as the school officials have requested. If your purchase is $50.00 or more, shipping is free. If under $50.00, shipping is $9.95. The shipping address for Marie Griffis is 12222 Mud Lake Rd., Glen St. Mary FL, 32040. All school supplies will be immediately delivered to HaLeigh's school for later distribution by the faculty. Only school supplies will be allowed as donations: no monetary donations will be accepted.


SOURCE Crystal Sheffield

http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/08-10-2009/0005074653&EDATE=


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 10, 2009, 09:19:59 AM
Ron’s Interview with Fox Jacksonville

Of particular interest is the close up of Ron Cummings’ eye with a very dilated pupil.

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 10, 2009, 09:43:51 AM
Morning all....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 10, 2009, 09:54:31 AM
Ron’s Interview with Fox Jacksonville

Of particular interest is the close up of Ron Cummings’ eye with a very dilated pupil.

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 10, 2009, 09:55:51 AM
Good Morning  ::MonkeyBike::  According to Staubs, the officials were accusing Neves of disclosing their investigative tactics.   Well if that was what she was doing I don't blame them for being mad.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 10, 2009, 10:11:37 AM
(http://www.jacksonville.com/files/imagecache/story_slideshow_thumb/editorial/images/additional/132/met_07HaleighSixth_0.jpg)
JON M. FLETCHER/The Times-Union
Crystal Sheffield has been blunt in her belief that Haleigh's father and stepmother are at fault.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 10, 2009, 10:32:52 AM
Ron’s Interview with Fox Jacksonville

Of particular interest is the close up of Ron Cummings’ eye with a very dilated pupil.

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(http://justiceforhaleigh.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/ron-eye.jpg?w=300&h=225)
His pupils look huge, but I'm not sure what that all means  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 10, 2009, 10:32:53 AM
(http://media2.myfoxorlando.com//photo/2009/04/07/Haleigh_school_picture_20090407130313272_640_480.JPG)


Six months since Haleigh disappeared


Updated: Monday, 10 Aug 2009, 9:58 AM EDT
Published : Monday, 10 Aug 2009, 9:58 AM EDT

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - It has been six months since anyone has seen Haleigh Cummings. The Putnam County girl has been missing since Februrary.

According to investigators in Putnam County, Haleigh was kidnapped early on February 10th.
The last person to see the five-year-old was her father's girlfriend, now wife, Misty Croslin, who placed the 911 call alerting police to Haliegh's disappearance.

Though authorities still have no suspect in the case, police say the Cummings case is not yet cold. A gathering of various law enforcement agencies on June 5 determined that there are still leads to follow up on. If you have any information on Haleigh's disappearance, please call 911.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/081009_haleigh_six_months_mis


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 10, 2009, 11:32:28 AM
Haleigh's family remains divided 6 months later

Grandmother wants peace but sees too many issues

    * By Dana Treen
    * Story updated at 7:27 PM on Sunday, Aug. 9, 2009

Six months into the unsolved disappearance of Haleigh Cummings, those who deeply love her believe she is still alive.

It’s about the only thing the two families closest to the investigation of her disappearance agree on.

With Monday marking the six-month anniversary of her case and next week’s arrival of her sixth birthday, her divided family has even scheduled separate events in Putnam County.

“It doesn’t matter what anybody says, we just want the safe return of Haleigh,” said Annette Sykes, whose grandson Ronald Cummings is Haleigh’s father. “Nothing else matters.”

Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, the long-estranged parents of Haleigh and her 4-year-old brother Ronald Jr., see each other only to exchange the boy at a pre-arranged stop in Florahome, about midway between Cummings’ home in southern Putnam County and Sheffield’s in western Baker County.

Tension between Cummings, Sheffield and their families has hummed like high-voltage background noise since the beginning of the case.

Sheffield’s mother, Marie Griffis, said law enforcement authorities have asked the two families not to have contact beyond the exchanges of Ronald Jr.

“I feel like that maybe if the families could speak with each other and put differences aside that maybe it would help the case, but there is too much going on down there and it is being pushed our way to blame us for what happened in Putnam County,” Griffis said from her home outside Sanderson where Sheffield also lives.

She said her family has been accused of abducting Haleigh and hiding her with family out of state.

She said she has no idea how her granddaughter vanished but said the kindergartner was living with Cummings and his 17-year-old girlfriend when she was reported missing.

“I don’t know what, I don’t know how but they were the last people to see my granddaughter,” Griffis said. “They’re the last two people to see her. They’re accountable for her whereabouts.”

Cummings said he and former girlfriend Misty Croslin — who he has since married and is now Misty Cummings — have been unfairly targeted.

“There should have been more attention to Crystal’s family,” he said. “I think they should have paid more attention to everyone rather than just me and Misty.”

He said questioning should have been broader.

“They didn’t have the big picture,” he said. “Why do they not question everybody?”

Cummings: It went ‘personal’

In recent interviews at Sykes’ Welaka home where Ronald Cummings, 25, and his wife live, he told the Times-Union the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office focus was shortsighted.

Standing outside wearing T-shirts with Haleigh’s likeness, Ronald and Misty Cummings said they gave dozens of hours of interviews in February and March, including her longest, which she said occurred just before the couple were married.

“I think the longest time I was in there was eight hours,” she said.

Ronald Cummings said the investigation went in the wrong direction.

“They took a child-abduction investigation and made it a personal investigation,” he said. “Instead of keeping the focus on finding Haleigh, they made the focus on Misty and what she was doing one weekend and what happened six months ago and what happened seven years ago. It was tunnel vision.”

Cummings has cut off interviews with investigators.

“Besides ‘No I didn’t have nothing to do with my child being missing,’ what do you say?” he asked.

Maj. Gary Bowling, director of law enforcement for the department, said detectives would like to interview Cummings again but have been resisted.

The interviews with Misty Cummings have produced different pictures, he said. She was alone with Cummings’ children the night Haleigh disappeared. She has told authorities she woke up about 3 a.m. and found the 5-year-old missing.

“We’ve said from day one Misty’s story is absolutely filled with inconsistencies,” Bowling said.

Cummings was at work the night his daughter vanished and came home as the 911 call to authorities was being made.

He has not worked since that last night shift, then lost his job because he did not stay in contact, according to the company. Cummings said he has not been able to find another job and does not know if he can go back to work.

“Each day gets harder and harder,” he said.

He moved from the mobile home where Haleigh vanished and said he still cannot go there.

“We don’t even want to be in that area,” he said.

Cummings, who has a minor criminal background, was arrested early Thursday after an altercation with a brother of his wife and her parents.

Sykes, who saw part of the fight, said Cummings’ arrest was another difficult turn, a distraction from an attempt to heighten awareness of Haleigh’s disappearance.

“We’re trying to do something positive for Haleigh and then something like this happens,” she said Thursday.

Theories abound

Pressures have come from all sides and been kept alive on the Web where bloggers argue and speculate, said family members and others in the case.

Griffis said she has become accustomed to accusations.

“If  there is inconsistencies that the police know about on our side of the family, they need to come question us,” she said. “I want them to question us.”

Mainstream media attention has waned, she said.

“All the interest is just that, it is in the blogs,” she said.

She has been accused of masterminding an abduction, that Haleigh is somewhere with other family members, she said.

She has asked to take a lie detector test and was given a voice stress analysis.

The next step should be for detectives to name those who are no longer suspects, she said.

“You need to start excluding the people that you know do not have this information,” she said.

Bowling said it takes rock-solid alibis before detectives can eliminate anyone and those have not been established. He said the best that can be done is assign degrees of suspicion to people.

“Where is the responsibility in saying somebody is not a suspect?” he said.

Sheffield, 24, is more blunt about Cummings.

“I really do feel like he is covering for Misty and she is covering for him,” she said.

In the early months of the case, a small, vacant building in Satsuma was painted purple and opened as an information center and informal listening post near the Satsuma neighborhood where Haleigh disappeared.

The Haleighbug Center was closed after Sheffield had medical problems that included seizures. Shirts and posters, donated toys and other items were brought to Baker County where Sheffield lives on family property with her fiance, their toddler daughter and his two children.

“I searched all I could down there,” she said. “My body couldn’t take it.

“Sometimes I sit and I think and I think and I think about where she could be and it drives me crazy.”

Griffis said the sense of loss deepens every day.

“It is just a lot of not knowing,” she said. “We are constantly questioning why this happened.”

Not giving up

Posters with Haleigh’s face that were once pasted to storefronts and car windows are fewer and fewer.

At Ronies Food in Glen St. Mary, a laminated poster still stands beneath a window sign advertising a lunch menu.

Jamie Taylor, whose family owns the restaurant, said taking it down would be like giving up. She said it seemed as if detectives never had much to go on.

“It’s kind of hard to take it down,” she said. “I know if it was my daughter I wouldn’t take it down until she was found.”

Both families hold on to the belief that Haleigh is alive and have organized reminders of her upcoming birthday and that it’s been six months since she’s been seen.

“I believe she is still alive,” Griffis said. “And that Ronald and Misty they are the key to it.”

Among the events will be a school supply drop-off and a prayer vigil the families have organized independently. A balloon release is scheduled to increase awareness that she remains gone.

“We don’t want World War III,” Sykes said. “It doesn’t matter what anybody says we just want the safe return of Haleigh.”

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-08-09/story/haleighs_family_remains_divided_6_months_later

Why is ROn trying so freaking hard to divert any attention from himself or Misty, they were the last to see her and he's so d@mn defensive about anyoe getting into hhis "personal" business....but, isn't that what LE HAS to do???? Why stop cooperating with LE unless he has something to hide??? I just don't get it, uf he really wants his daughter found he should answer any and all questions they have, I don't care if he thinks they are relevant or not just get over your worry about yourself and aswer LE's questions and that goes for Misty too. After reading this article, it's pretty clear to me who the focus of the investigation is on and I agree that these two indeed hold the key. He needs to quit whining and man up already as this is n't about what he wants, it's about Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 10, 2009, 11:42:35 AM
Bringing from AH. I felt the more, the better.

Quote from: 2Spunky on Today at 01:34:42 PM
I was asked on behalf of the families to post this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
 
 
First Baptist Church of Welaka                                             
638 3rd Avenue
Welaka, FL 32193
(386) 467-3251
August 16, 2009
Time: 3:00 PM
 
 
"Prayers of Love and Hope for HaLeigh's Safe Return"
 
Please join Ronald Cummings and family in "Prayers of Love and Hope for HaLeigh's Safe Return".
 
Five year old HaLeigh Ann Marie Cummings has been missing since the early morning hours of February 10th, 2009.
 
Ronald Cummings pleads, “Bring my baby home, I love and miss her with all my heart.”
 
To HaLeigh, Mr. Cummings says, “HaLeigh, Baby, I will never stop looking for you”.
 
Her family invites everyone to share in this service of hope and prayer with Pastor Mike Stanley.
 
Please come and join in a candle lighting chain of Love and Hope.
 
The service will be held on the front lawn at First Baptist Church of Welaka.
Sunday, August 16, 2009 at 3:00 PM.
 

Is this a different pastor than the one with Ron in February/March........I thought his name was Terry Wright IIRc


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 10, 2009, 11:46:48 AM
I agree IM, and it sure looks like LE is doing something different if indeed we believe the story about what happened when Ron's mom went to the police station.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 10, 2009, 11:54:44 AM
Thoughts on the Haleigh Cummings case

Posted on August 10th, 2009
by Denny Griffin in All News


I have been following the Haleigh Cummings case since the girl disappeared from her Satsuma, Florida home on February 10. Six months later Haleigh is still missing; and as far as is known publicly there have been no major developments in the investigation of late.

With the police remaining tight-lipped, where can people go to get credible information? To be honest, I find the options to be limited. The case has gone cold in the national media; and I understand there is a lack of interest by the local news reporters as well.

Thankfully there are still a few outlets that remain attentive to Haleigh’s situation. Among them is Simon Barrett’s reporting on Blogger News Network and on his Blog Talk Radio show. And the reporting of TJ Hart, News Director for Florida station The Sky, at 97.3 FM.

However, in addition to the apparent lack of progress in the investigation itself, I am becoming increasingly frustrated by the circus atmosphere surrounding this case. A fiction writer would be hard pressed to create the number of unique characters, egos, sub-plots and hidden agendas that exist here.

Although I was aware that Internet blogs are rife with unsubstantiated rumors and outright lies, I didn’t truly appreciate the depth of the side issues until I listened to Simon Barrett’s show yesterday. Not only are some bloggers running amok, but some of the key players are involved in vendettas against one another and using Haleigh’s disappearance as a vehicle to get their revenge or accomplish their goals.

As an example, let’s take a look at what happened to bail bondsman and bounty hunter William “Cobra” Staubs. Mr. Staubs arrived in the Satsuma area with the honorable intention of helping to find Haleigh. However, his efforts were cut short when he ran afoul of attorney Kim Picazio. Staubs suddenly found himself under arrest and his business license suspended. He is currently thousands of dollars in debt due to the mounting legal fees required to fight what he says are bogus charges.

It appears that many of Staubs’ legal problems can be placed at the feet of Ms. Picazio. Her brother-in-law was on the program yesterday and said that Picazio stated in his presence that she planned to destroy Staubs professionally and financially.

But she isn’t the only source of grief for the bondsman. Staubs himself disclosed yesterday that there is an active effort to run Putnam County Sheriff Jeff Hardy out of office. According to Staubs, there are several factions within and outside of the department that want Hardy gone for various reasons. He said he was even offered a cash payment to set Hardy up to take a fall. It was a situation Staubs refused to be drawn into. But one has to wonder what effect - if any - his decision had on how he has been treated in Putnam County.

All these things might make for an exciting novel. But are they doing anything to further the effort to find Haleigh Cummings? In my opinion, no. In fact, I believe they are doing just the opposite.

It’s time to put egos and personal agendas aside; and use those energies to find Haleigh.     

http://www.bloggernews.net/121844


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 10, 2009, 11:56:52 AM
I agree IM, and it sure looks like LE is doing something different if indeed we believe the story about what happened when Ron's mom went to the police station.

Yes, that is interesting and I can see the fact they wanted to question her, but I don't give much credence to Tim H as I think he's whacko ::MonkeyConfused:: and Cobra I'm not sure about either. But after that long article stating how many times and for how long they have worked on Misty's timeline and how they have wanted to re-interview Ron and he's not cooperating leads me to believe LE has some POI's- they just aren't naming them. Seriously, who would be more of a POI than Ron/Misty as they were the last ones to see her, and they aren't cooperating , now Mama Neves gets questioned and well it's about time IMO-they need to go balls to the wall from now on as 6 months is too long ::MonkeyNoNo::

Interesting that they also have a homicide investigator on the case. I know many don't want "to go there", but to thoroughly investigate they need to look at every potential aspect of this case and sadly that is one side of it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 10, 2009, 11:59:45 AM
I agree IM, and it sure looks like LE is doing something different if indeed we believe the story about what happened when Ron's mom went to the police station.

Yes, that is interesting and I can see the fact they wanted to question her, but I don't give much credence to Tim H as I think he's whacko ::MonkeyConfused:: and Cobra I'm not sure about either. But after that long article stating how many times and for how long they have worked on Misty's timeline and how they have wanted to re-interview Ron and he's not cooperating leads me to believe LE has some POI's- they just aren't naming them. Seriously, who would be more of a POI than Ron/Misty as they were the last ones to see her, and they aren't cooperating , now Mama Neves gets questioned and well it's about time IMO-they need to go balls to the wall from now on as 6 months is too long ::MonkeyNoNo::

Interesting that they also have a homicide investigator on the case. I know many don't want "to go there", but to thoroughly investigate they need to look at every potential aspect of this case and sadly that is one side of it.
Yes, and logically Haleigh was in the care of Ron/Misty at the time not anyone else. But I think logic left along time ago sadly  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 10, 2009, 12:01:59 PM
I agree IM, and it sure looks like LE is doing something different if indeed we believe the story about what happened when Ron's mom went to the police station.

Yes, that is interesting and I can see the fact they wanted to question her, but I don't give much credence to Tim H as I think he's whacko ::MonkeyConfused:: and Cobra I'm not sure about either. But after that long article stating how many times and for how long they have worked on Misty's timeline and how they have wanted to re-interview Ron and he's not cooperating leads me to believe LE has some POI's- they just aren't naming them. Seriously, who would be more of a POI than Ron/Misty as they were the last ones to see her, and they aren't cooperating , now Mama Neves gets questioned and well it's about time IMO-they need to go balls to the wall from now on as 6 months is too long ::MonkeyNoNo::

Interesting that they also have a homicide investigator on the case. I know many don't want "to go there", but to thoroughly investigate they need to look at every potential aspect of this case and sadly that is one side of it.
Yes, and logically Haleigh was in the care of Ron/Misty at the time not anyone else. But I think logic left along time ago sadly  ::MonkeyNoNo::

IAgreed. BRB, my puter died and I'm o a borrowed one than jumps around when I type and I can't see what I'm typing. God Bless this child and bring her home


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 10, 2009, 12:10:40 PM
Six Months Since Haleigh Vanished
By
Rich Jones, News Director
@ August 10, 2009 8:59 AM

It's been six months since Haleigh Cummings disappeared from her Satsuma home.
By all inidications, police are no closer to finding the girl today than that morning in February.

Thousands of leads have come in to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office and investigators have interviewed family, friends and neighbors.

Lt. Johnny Greenwood maintains their focus is to find Haleigh alive.

"A lot of the tips are opinion, people calling in saying 'You need to interview so and so, I've seen them on TV and something's just not right'. Those kind of tips we have to file off of people's opinions on one side and then we go with anything that might have a substantial lead to it in another pile".

Haleigh turns six years-old next Monday.

http://wokv.com/localnews/2009/08/six-months-...


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Post by: Heart on August 10, 2009, 12:12:17 PM
Six Months Since Haleigh Vanished
By
Rich Jones, News Director
@ August 10, 2009 8:59 AM

It's been six months since Haleigh Cummings disappeared from her Satsuma home.
By all inidications, police are no closer to finding the girl today than that morning in February.

Thousands of leads have come in to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office and investigators have interviewed family, friends and neighbors.

Lt. Johnny Greenwood maintains their focus is to find Haleigh alive.

"A lot of the tips are opinion, people calling in saying 'You need to interview so and so, I've seen them on TV and something's just not right'. Those kind of tips we have to file off of people's opinions on one side and then we go with anything that might have a substantial lead to it in another pile".

Haleigh turns six years-old next Monday.

http://wokv.com/localnews/2009/08/six-months-...


Lt. Johnny Greenwood maintains their focus is to find Haleigh alive.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 10, 2009, 12:28:35 PM
Six Months Since Haleigh Vanished
By
Rich Jones, News Director
@ August 10, 2009 8:59 AM

It's been six months since Haleigh Cummings disappeared from her Satsuma home.
By all inidications, police are no closer to finding the girl today than that morning in February.

Thousands of leads have come in to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office and investigators have interviewed family, friends and neighbors.

Lt. Johnny Greenwood maintains their focus is to find Haleigh alive.

"A lot of the tips are opinion, people calling in saying 'You need to interview so and so, I've seen them on TV and something's just not right'. Those kind of tips we have to file off of people's opinions on one side and then we go with anything that might have a substantial lead to it in another pile".

Haleigh turns six years-old next Monday.

http://wokv.com/localnews/2009/08/six-months-...


Lt. Johnny Greenwood maintains their focus is to find Haleigh alive.


that is good to hear! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Thunder Bunny on August 10, 2009, 01:44:26 PM
I've got a couple of questions....in the one article it does not make sense to me that the LE would want the families divided.  Why?  This makes no sense.  Working together might get something accomplished.  Standing a family unit and a stronger force.  Asking questions of each other and considering information together, instead of "he said, she said, I heard, I read.."
Why would LE want them apart?  And I'd like to know WHO told Marie Griffis that.  WHO?  Did they tell the Cummings side that as well?

The other question, (oh my gosh, there are so many! but pressing on my mind today)  If LE thinks Teresa Neves was leaking information, I can see them treating her that way.  WHICH NO ONE has the right to do.  Let's imagine we were to walk in and ask about our missing child or grand baby.  We have a right to know, yes?  And if they treated us this way, how would we feel?  I'm pretty sure KP was the one leaking all the info.  Remember how "in good" she was with Peggy Cone?  Again, this isn't making sense.  Surely they know KP was causing big waves.

So.  They want to keep the families separated.  They want to make sure there are no leaks. But after six months, honestly.  If I were in that family, don't care which side, at this point I'd have to say that you have not found my child, and I NEED TO FIGURE THIS OUT.  I'd be at the other camps side and putting it ALL ON THE TABLE.

And Crystal, I'm confused.  She said in one of the very first interviews that Ronald would not hurt HaLeigh.  (yes, she said it. if he is so violent, why would she say it? I think I'd be saying, "I DON'T KNOW!")  And then not even two, three days later, she tells Geraldo she thinks he is violent.  Omgosh you guys.  This WHOLE case is just crazy.

Have you noticed that in the other recent cases, the police have given statements and keep the public somewhat updated?  This child is believed to be...this child might have come to some harm...this child is missing with her mother and possibly headed to Arizona...this child has a life filled with SO's...this person is going to get caught because we know a suitcase was reported missing....

And what do we have with HaLeigh?  We have a big fat N.O.T.H.I.N.G.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 10, 2009, 01:47:08 PM
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

This article speaks volumes to me, and IMO seems to be more towards implicating Ron/Misty (heck, even Ron does it by his attititude and lack of cooperation:

“I don’t know what, I don’t know how but they were the last people to see my granddaughter,” Griffis said. “They’re the last two people to see her. They’re accountable for her whereabouts.”

1) FACT! Until they can rule them out LE is in a rock/hard place and it shouldn't take 6 months to rule them out.... ::MonkeyWink::

Cummings said he and former girlfriend Misty Croslin — who he has since married and is now Misty Cummings — have been unfairly targeted.

2) BS~ Their actions speak louder than their words, family is always targeted first anyway especially the family who were with her at the time "she got stole"

“There should have been more attention to Crystal’s family,” he said. “I think they should have paid more attention to everyone rather than just me and Misty.

3) Seems like LE is focuisng on them and they have reasons to, they already stated they don't know WHAT happened or WHEN it happened


He said questioning should have been broader.

“They didn’t have the big picture,” he said. “Why do they not question everybody?”

4) Because they need to clear YOU and your girlfriend/wife who just came off a 3 day drug/sexs bender and YOU left your precious children in the care of that ::MonkeyNoNo::

Cummings: It went ‘personal’

5) OF ocurse it did, you again left your child in the care of an unfit caregiver and now one of your children is gone due to your severe lack of any good judgement and if I was Crystal I'd be mad as he77 and I'd have spizzed too...any mother in their right mind would be furious after hearing 3 -4 different stories about where everyone was sleeping, and all the inconsistencies

In recent interviews at Sykes’ Welaka home where Ronald Cummings, 25, and his wife live, he told the Times-Union the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office focus was shortsighted.

Standing outside wearing T-shirts with Haleigh’s likeness, Ronald and Misty Cummings said they gave dozens of hours of interviews in February and March, including her longest, which she said occurred just before the couple were married.

“I think the longest time I was in there was eight hours,” she said.

6) Becasue you are lying and they know it

Ronald Cummings said the investigation went in the wrong direction.

“They took a child-abduction investigation and made it a personal investigation,” he said. “Instead of keeping the focus on finding Haleigh, they made the focus on Misty and what she was doing one weekend and what happened six months ago and what happened seven years ago. It was tunnel vision.”

7) That's how investigations are handled Ron OR didn't your dispatch mommy tell you....... ::MonkeyConfused::

Cummings has cut off interviews with investigators.

“Besides ‘No I didn’t have nothing to do with my child being missing,’ what do you say?” he asked.

Maj. Gary Bowling, director of law enforcement for the department, said detectives would like to interview Cummings again but have been resisted.

8) Nuff said......... If you have nothing to hide and really want her found get your @ss back in there and make Misty tell what she knows, unless of course it implicates you Ron

The interviews with Misty Cummings have produced different pictures, he said. She was alone with Cummings’ children the night Haleigh disappeared. She has told authorities she woke up about 3 a.m. and found the 5-year-old missing.

“We’ve said from day one Misty’s story is absolutely filled with inconsistencies,” Bowling said.

Cummings was at work the night his daughter vanished and came home as the 911 call to authorities was being made.

He has not worked since that last night shift, then lost his job because he did not stay in contact, according to the company. Cummings said he has not been able to find another job and does not know if he can go back to work.
Guess you're looking for more free meals and donations ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 10, 2009, 02:12:30 PM
He has not worked since that last night shift, then lost his job because he did not stay in contact, according to the company. Cummings said he has not been able to find another job and does not know if he can go back to work.    (Please there is no reason why you can't find somekind of job and go back to work, none.)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 10, 2009, 02:22:00 PM
Update on criminal dockets. Ronald Cummings... ::MonkeyTongue::

UCN: 542009CF001430XXAXMX
File Date: 2009-08-06 Judge: TERRY J LARUE   
Defense Atty: 

Defendant
CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 
Alias


Date # Docket Description
2009-08-06 1 ARREST REPORT - PCSO D/S QUINTIER (ARREST 8/5/09) 

2009-08-06 1 BOOKING NUMBER: 09-3225 

2009-08-06 1 BURGLARY OF CONVEYANCE WITH BATTERY 

2009-08-06 2 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 8/6/09 

2009-08-06 2 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY 

2009-08-06 2 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND 

2009-08-06 2 $12,5004.00 SECURED BOND SET 

2009-08-06 3 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY 

2009-08-06 4 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING 

2009-08-07 5 $12504.00 A-1-24 HOUR CITY BEST BAIL BONDS #2148146 
2009-08-07 5 AMERICAN BANKERS INSURANCE CO 


Edit:  Add link per jerseygirl345:

.http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 10, 2009, 02:22:34 PM
Update on criminal dockets. Ronald Cummings... ::MonkeyTongue::

UCN: 542009CF001430XXAXMX
File Date: 2009-08-06 Judge: TERRY J LARUE   
Defense Atty: 

Defendant
CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 
Alias


Date # Docket Description
2009-08-06 1 ARREST REPORT - PCSO D/S QUINTIER (ARREST 8/5/09) 

2009-08-06 1 BOOKING NUMBER: 09-3225 

2009-08-06 1 BURGLARY OF CONVEYANCE WITH BATTERY 

2009-08-06 2 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 8/6/09 

2009-08-06 2 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY 

2009-08-06 2 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND 

2009-08-06 2 $12,5004.00 SECURED BOND SET 

2009-08-06 3 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY 

2009-08-06 4 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING 

2009-08-07 5 $12504.00 A-1-24 HOUR CITY BEST BAIL BONDS #2148146 
2009-08-07 5 AMERICAN BANKERS INSURANCE CO 




Link...http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php

Added link to above post.  MB


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 10, 2009, 02:23:21 PM
Thanks Jerseygirl


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 10, 2009, 02:28:00 PM
Good afternoon Muffybee.. ::MonkeyTongue::

Thanks for all your help...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 10, 2009, 02:36:01 PM
Update- Ronlad cummings and Crystal sheffield...

 ::MonkeyTongue::UCN: 542005DR001321FDXXXX
File Date: 2005-09-16 Disposition Date: 2007-11-08
File Type: PATERNITY - FD12
Judge: A W NICHOLS III   

Plaintiffs
CUMMINGS RONALD LEMYLES  Defendants
SHEFFIELD CRYSTAL DIANE 


Date Docket Description
2005-09-16 001.PETITION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY AND RELATED RELIEF 

2005-09-16 002.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE 

2005-09-16 003.UNIFORM CHILD CUSTODY JURISDICTION/ENFORCEMENT AFFID. 

2005-09-16 004.FINANCIAL AFFIDAVIT - PETITIONER 

2005-09-16 005.NOTICE OF SOCIAL SECURITY - PETITIONER 

2005-09-16 006.REQUEST FOR SUMMONS TO BE ISSUED 

2005-09-16 007. SUMMONS ISSUED:CRYSTAL DIANE SHEFFIELD 9/19/2005 

2005-09-16 .ADDRESS:11024 ARROWBROOK JAX FL 32221 

2005-09-16 .SUMM RT 10-26-05 SVD 10-05-05 DUE 10-25-05 

2005-10-18 008. ANSWER FILED BY PETITIONER 

2005-10-26 009. MOTION TO SET HEARING 

2005-10-26 010. MOTION FOR DEFAULT 

2005-10-27 011. DEFAULT ENTERED 

2005-10-27 012.CLERK'S CERTIFICATE 

2005-11-01 013. EMERGENCY VERIFED MOTION FOR CHILD PICK-UP ORDER 

2005-11-01 015.UNIFORM CHILD CUSTODY JURISDICTION/ENFORCEMENT AFFID. 

2005-11-01 016. ORDER SETTING ASIDE DEFAULT - EEH 

2005-11-01 017.ORDER OF REFERRAL TO GENERAL MAGISTRATE - EEH 

2005-11-01 .PETITION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY AND FOR RELATED RELIEF 

2005-11-01 .FILED BY PETITIONER 

2005-11-01 014.CERTFICATE OF COMPLETITION - CRYSTAL CUMMINGS 

2005-11-22 018. COPY - NOTICE OF HEARING - 12-01-05 @ 9:00 RMP 

2005-11-22 .PETITIONERS MOTION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY 

2005-12-01 019. FAMILY COURT MIN - PET. PRES, RESP. NOT PRES, 

2005-12-01 .C/S TO BE DETERMINED, SHARED PRIMARY RESIDENTAL WITH 

2005-12-01 .FATHER,. STANDARD AT FATHER DISCREATION, JUDICALLY 

2005-12-01 .RECOGNIZED 05-1354 -FD, RONALD CUMMINGS DECLARED LEGAL 

2005-12-01 .FATHER OF BOTH CHILDREN , SHARED PARENTAL RESPONSLIBILTY

2005-12-01 .WITH PRIMARY RESIDENTAL WITH FATHER, STANDARD 

2005-12-01 .VISITATION DISCRESTION OF FATHER IF SAFETY FOR THE 

2005-12-01 .CHILDREN CONCERNS ADVISE, 24 HRS NOTICE TO EXCERSISE 

2005-12-01 .VISITATION , MOTHER NOT TO REMOVE CHILDREN FROM THE 

2005-12-01 .STATE OF FLORIDA WITHOUT FATHERS WRITTN CONSENT OR 

2005-12-01 .FURTHER ORDER OF THE COURT 

2005-12-05 022.REPORT/RECOMMENDATION OF GENERAL MASTER-MP 

2005-12-05 .PET. FOUND TO BE FATHER OF MINOR CHILDREN, SHARED 

2005-12-05 .PARENTAL RESPONSLIBLITY, WITH PETITIONER HAVING 

2005-12-05 .PRIMARY RESIDENTAL CUSTODY, UNSUPERVISED VISITATION 

2005-12-05 .ACCORDING TO STANDARD VISITATION SCHEDULE, MOTHER TO 

2005-12-05 .PAY C/S OF $323/MTH TO BEGININING WHEN ORDER SIGNED 

2005-12-05 .BOTH PARTIES TO MAINTAIN MEDICAID INSURANCE ON BOTH 

2005-12-05 .CHILDREN 

2005-12-05 020. NOTICE OF CURRENT ADDRESS - CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD 

2005-12-05 021.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE - RESPONDENT 

2005-12-06 023. FAXED LETTER FROM RESPONDENT TO MAGISTRATE IN RE: 

2005-12-06 .REHEARING 

2005-12-08 024. RETURN TO SENDER - REPORT AND RECOMMEDATION - RESP. 

2005-12-13 025. NOTICE OF HEARING - 12-27-05 @ 10:30 RMP - PETITIONERS 

2005-12-13 .MOTION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY AND RELATED RELIEF 

2005-12-13 026. ORDER GRANTING MOTION FOR REHEARING - RMP - 

2005-12-27 027.CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION OF PARENTING CLASS 

2005-12-27 RESPONDENT 

2005-12-27 028.FAMILY COURT MINUTES 

2006-01-03 029.REPORT/RECOMMENDATION OF GEN.MAG. ON FJ OF PATERNITY 

2006-01-06 030. MOTION FOR REHEARING AND OBJECTION TO FINDINGS 

2006-01-06 OF MAGISTRATE 

2006-01-20 031.MOTION TO STRIKE OR DIMISS MOTION FOR REHEARING 

2006-01-20 AND OBJECTION TO FINDINGS OF MAGISTRATE-PETITIONER 

2006-01-24 032.NOTICE OF HEARING-HRG SET FOR 02/28/06 @ 1:30 

2006-01-24 EEH-COURTROOM 305 

2006-01-25 033.NOTICE OF HEARING-HRG SET FOR 02/28/06 @ 1:30-EEH 

2006-01-31 034.CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION-HUSBAND 

2006-02-28 035.FAMILY COURT MINUTES 

2006-03-02 036.NOTICE OF HEARING-SET FOR 04/06/06 @ 3:00 

2006-03-09 037.EMERGENCY MOTION FOR RETURN OF CHILDREN - PETITIONER 

2006-03-15 038.NOTICE OF HEARING - HRG SET FOR 03/21/06 @ 10:30 

2006-03-16 039.SUBPOENA FOR HEARING - HRG SET FOR 03/21/06 @ 10:30 

2006-03-16 SUBPOENA FOR: MICHAEL S WORD C/O WALMART DISTRIBUTION 

2006-03-16 CENTER 

2006-03-20 040.NOTICE OF FILING TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR 

2006-03-20 PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WITH MINOR 

2006-03-20 CHILDREN 

2006-03-21 041.FAMILY COURT MINUTES 

2006-03-22 042.ORDER ON EMERGENCY MOTION FOR RETURN OF CHILDREN 

2006-03-22 043.NOTICE OF FILING TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR 

2006-03-22 PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WITH MINOR 

2006-03-22 CHILDREN 

2006-04-04 044.NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING 

2006-04-12 045.NOTICE OF UN-AVAILABILITY-CHARLES BEHM-ESQUIRE 

2006-08-17 046.NOTICE OF HEARING - STATUS CONFERENCE 

2006-08-17 HRG SET FOR 10/04/06 @ 3:00 - EEH 

2006-10-04 047.FAMILY COURT MINUTES-PET NOT PRESENT-R MURPHY PRESENT 

2006-10-04 RESP NOT PRESENT-C BEHM PRESENT 

2006-12-28 048.NOTICE OF HEARING - HRG SET FOR 01/04/07 @ 3:30 

2007-01-04 049.NOTICE OF FILING TRANSCRIPT - RESPONDENT 

2007-01-26 050.NOTICE OF HEARING REGARDING OBJECTIONS TO FINDINGS 

2007-01-26 OF MAGISTRATE-HRG SET FOR 02/13/07 @ 2:00 - EEH 

2007-02-13 051.FAMILY COURT MINUTES PET PR RESP PR 

2007-02-22 052.NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY OF COUNSEL - BEHM 

2007-05-11 053.CORRESPONDENCE FROM NANCY GRIFFIS TO EEH 

2007-11-08 054.ORDER APPROVING REPORT/RECOMMENDATIONS OF MAGISTRATE 

2007-11-26 FL#200754636011 

2008-06-16 055.DOR INTERCEPT IN THE AMOUNT OF $48.00 ON 06/16/08 

2009-02-10 056.MOTION FOR CONTEMPT 03-27-09 AT 08:30 

2009-02-20 057.NOTICE OF DISMISSAL 

2009-03-17 058.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE - KIM PICAZIO FOR CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD

2009-03-20 059.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE-T JERRY SNIDER FOR FATHER 

2009-03-26 060.NOTICE OF PRODUCTION FROM NON-PARTY 

2009-04-06 061.OBJECTION TO NOTICE OF PRODUCTION FROM NON-PARTY 

2009-06-08 062.MEMO FROM FINANCE TO KIM PICAZIO: UNCOLLECTED FUNDS HOLD

2009-06-18 063.MEMO FROM FINANCE TO KIM PICAZIO: PAYMENT OF UNCOLLECTED

2009-06-18 FUNDS HOLD DUE TO IDENTIFY THEFT 

2009-07-08 064.NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY 

2009-07-14 065.AGREED ORDER ON CHILDRENS ISSUES - AWN 

2009-07-14 FL#200954681414 

2009-07-17 066.MOTION TO WITHDRAW - KIM PICAZIO/RESPONDENT 

2009-07-22 ----:NOTE TO FILE----(DKT#66) ATTORNEY TO SET HEARING 

2009-07-22 08/05/09 @ 11:00 BY PHONE - AWN ---- 

2009-07-27 067.NOTICE OF HEARING/AWN FOR 08/05/09 AT 11:00 

2009-07-29 068.CONSENT ON COUNSELS MOTION TO WITHDRAW-JERRY SNIDER 

2009-08-05 069.FAMILY COURT MINUTES 

2009-08-10 070.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE - CAROL CALDWELL FOR MOTHER 

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 10, 2009, 02:38:39 PM
Carol A. Caldwell, Attorney at Law ..


Welcome to the Law Office of Carol A. Caldwell, Attorney and Registered Nurse. Our legal practice focuses on Family Law and Elder law related matters in St. Augustine, Jacksonville, St. Johns County, Duval County, and other Northeast Florida counties.
Our goal is to provide quality, individualized legal service to clients. Communication is essential and the attorney-client relationship is entered as a partnership in which the client is an active participant in the legal process.

http://www.carolcaldwelllaw.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 10, 2009, 02:43:03 PM
Thanks jerseygirl for bringing all the info.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 10, 2009, 02:55:01 PM
Carol A. Caldwell, Attorney at Law ..


Welcome to the Law Office of Carol A. Caldwell, Attorney and Registered Nurse. Our legal practice focuses on Family Law and Elder law related matters in St. Augustine, Jacksonville, St. Johns County, Duval County, and other Northeast Florida counties.
Our goal is to provide quality, individualized legal service to clients. Communication is essential and the attorney-client relationship is entered as a partnership in which the client is an active participant in the legal process.

http://www.carolcaldwelllaw.com/

Thanks JG~Very interesting.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 10, 2009, 03:19:11 PM
Carol A. Caldwell, Attorney at Law ..


Welcome to the Law Office of Carol A. Caldwell, Attorney and Registered Nurse. Our legal practice focuses on Family Law and Elder law related matters in St. Augustine, Jacksonville, St. Johns County, Duval County, and other Northeast Florida counties.
Our goal is to provide quality, individualized legal service to clients. Communication is essential and the attorney-client relationship is entered as a partnership in which the client is an active participant in the legal process.

http://www.carolcaldwelllaw.com/

Thanks JG~Very interesting.
Attorney and Registered Nurse, that is interesting.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: jules3699 on August 10, 2009, 04:02:39 PM
Hi All just checkin the post here today and I have been wondering..... ::MonkeyNoNo::Does anyone know why Rons uncle Donald R. Squires said he didnt want to squeal on Kin?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 10, 2009, 04:12:12 PM
Hi All just checkin the post here today and I have been wondering..... ::MonkeyNoNo::Does anyone know why Rons uncle Donald R. Squires said he didnt want to squeal on Kin?
I don't know, anybody?  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: jules3699 on August 10, 2009, 04:16:48 PM
Hi All just checkin the post here today and I have been wondering..... ::MonkeyNoNo::Does anyone know why Rons uncle Donald R. Squires said he didnt want to squeal on Kin?
I don't know, anybody?  ::MonkeyConfused::

I found it on here http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:rFZGJgflJLQJ:justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com/+justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us but I couldnt click on the comments and there wasnt much on it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: jules3699 on August 10, 2009, 04:17:42 PM
Ron Cummings Uncle Donald Squires




Donald R. Squires, DOB 3/20/61
Uncle of Ronald Cummings


Son of Annette Sykes, brother of Teresa Neves


Great Uncle of Haleigh Cummings


Criminal history consisting mainly of hunting violations can be found at the Putnam County Clerk of Court website.




Quote attributed to Uncle Donald when he was asked what he knew about Haleigh's disappearance:










"I won't squeal on my kin."


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 10, 2009, 04:20:16 PM
Hi All just checkin the post here today and I have been wondering..... ::MonkeyNoNo::Does anyone know why Rons uncle Donald R. Squires said he didnt want to squeal on Kin?
I don't know, anybody?  ::MonkeyConfused::

I found it on here http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:rFZGJgflJLQJ:justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com/+justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us but I couldnt click on the comments and there wasnt much on it.

We don't know if that is a factual quote so pretty hard to answer.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 10, 2009, 04:30:56 PM
And it seems so odd the answer, if indeed that was his answer, I won't squeal on kin  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 10, 2009, 04:36:05 PM
Hello No rose......I cant believe Haleigh has been gone for 6 months and still we know nothing...poor baby......Oh and I want to say that the local CBS station has something up about "new information on the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings,    dont know what thats about or if its just a recap because its been 6 months but Im gonna do some checking and see what else I can find....will let you know...





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 10, 2009, 04:46:21 PM
Hello No rose......I cant believe Haleigh has been gone for 6 months and still we know nothing...poor baby......Oh and I want to say that the local CBS station has something up about "new information on the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings,    dont know what thats about or if its just a recap because its been 6 months but Im gonna do some checking and see what else I can find....will let you know...




Hi, please do  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 10, 2009, 06:04:55 PM
Hello No rose......I cant believe Haleigh has been gone for 6 months and still we know nothing...poor baby......Oh and I want to say that the local CBS station has something up about "new information on the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings,    dont know what thats about or if its just a recap because its been 6 months but Im gonna do some checking and see what else I can find....will let you know...




Hi, please do  ::MonkeyAngel::
Well, I watched it and it was just interviews with grandma sykes and a few others, more or less talking about how the case is still being checked into and some of the same things we have alreay heard and seen,....  God Bless HaLeigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 10, 2009, 06:07:08 PM
Hello No rose......I cant believe Haleigh has been gone for 6 months and still we know nothing...poor baby......Oh and I want to say that the local CBS station has something up about "new information on the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings,    dont know what thats about or if its just a recap because its been 6 months but Im gonna do some checking and see what else I can find....will let you know...




Hi, please do  ::MonkeyAngel::
Well, I watched it and it was just interviews with grandma sykes and a few others, more or less talking about how the case is still being checked into and some of the same things we have alreay heard and seen,....  God Bless HaLeigh.
Thank-you


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 10, 2009, 06:38:59 PM
also according to a channel 12 news source, Misty does have a lawyer, wonder what the name is, and LE says they still have not talked to her...........boy you would think since Haliegh is still missing Ronald would more or less make Misty fgo talk to LE........thats just to weird.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 10, 2009, 06:44:26 PM
also according to a channel 12 news source, Misty does have a lawyer, wonder what the name is, and LE says they still have not talked to her...........boy you would think since Haliegh is still missing Ronald would more or less make Misty fgo talk to LE........thats just to weird.
Makes no sense to me unless you are hiding something.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 10, 2009, 06:59:05 PM
Family Members Hold Out Hope for Haleigh's Return (Video included)

Posted By: Taren Reed Report By: Jackelyn Barnard Created: 8/10/2009 6:09:36 PM Updated: 8/10/2009 6:45:52 PM

PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- In Haleigh Cummings' home is a present and many stuffed animals. The gifts are sitting by the front door waiting for the five-year-old.

Nearby there is a candle which the family lights every night. They say the candle will burn until Haleigh comes home.

"It's waiting, everyday waiting for somebody to say we found Haleigh," says Annette Sykes, Haleigh's great-grandmother.

It's been six months since the little girl just vanished from her Satsuma home. Ronald Cummings, Haleigh's dad, moved out after the disappearance. Someone else lives in the home now.

"If anything it's gotten worse for Ron," says Sykes. She says he rarely sleeps anymore.

They say it's as if life is standing still and it was just yesterday that panic had set in.

Next week, Haleigh will turn six-years-old. The family still holds out hope that she is still alive.

But everyday there are fewer tips that come in to police. "Somebody knows what happened to Haleigh Cummings. We are just waiting for that one piece of information to break the case wideopen," says Lt. Johnny Greenwood, of the Putnam County Sheriff's Office.

Greenwood says a FDLE agent is now combing through all leads to make sure nothing is missed. "We are gonna find her and bring her home," says Greenwood.

Six months after she disappeared, Haleigh's family has a message for the person who took her. It is the same one they pleaded before. "Just bring her home."

Police say they have no suspects in this case.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/florida/news-article.aspx?storyid=143152&catid=4



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 10, 2009, 07:31:54 PM
I feel sorry for everyone who loves Haleigh..this has to be a living nightmare....
God bless Haleigh and hope that she is found soon...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 10, 2009, 07:37:22 PM
Hi All just checkin the post here today and I have been wondering..... ::MonkeyNoNo::Does anyone know why Rons uncle Donald R. Squires said he didnt want to squeal on Kin?
I don't know, anybody?  ::MonkeyConfused::

I found it on here http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:rFZGJgflJLQJ:justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com/+justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us but I couldnt click on the comments and there wasnt much on it.

We don't know if that is a factual quote so pretty hard to answer.

And it looks like the 12 comments posted have been removed.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 10, 2009, 07:48:31 PM
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww92/Ger_09/news010.jpg)

Ger over at AH's site has posted some more pics.

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,122.105.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 10, 2009, 07:48:33 PM
Hi All just checkin the post here today and I have been wondering..... ::MonkeyNoNo::Does anyone know why Rons uncle Donald R. Squires said he didnt want to squeal on Kin?
I don't know, anybody?  ::MonkeyConfused::

I found it on here http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:rFZGJgflJLQJ:justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com/+justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us but I couldnt click on the comments and there wasnt much on it.

We don't know if that is a factual quote so pretty hard to answer.

And it looks like the 12 comments posted have been removed.
actually, the commwnts have not been removed, the blog has. Blog has been removed

Sorry, the blog at justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com has been removed. This address is not available for new blogs.

I have heard that is Pirates or was Pirates blog and we know how honest she was on WS   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 10, 2009, 07:49:25 PM
Hi All just checkin the post here today and I have been wondering..... ::MonkeyNoNo::Does anyone know why Rons uncle Donald R. Squires said he didnt want to squeal on Kin?
I don't know, anybody?  ::MonkeyConfused::

I found it on here http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:rFZGJgflJLQJ:justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com/+justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us but I couldnt click on the comments and there wasnt much on it.

We don't know if that is a factual quote so pretty hard to answer.

And it looks like the 12 comments posted have been removed.
actually, the comments have not been removed, the blog has. Blog has been removed

Sorry, the blog at justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com has been removed. This address is not available for new blogs.

I have heard that is Pirates or was Pirates blog and we know how honest she was on WS   ::MonkeyRoll::
self edit to fix my typo....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 10, 2009, 07:54:19 PM
I feel sorry for everyone who loves Haleigh..this has to be a living nightmare....
God bless Haleigh and hope that she is found soon...

Hi cookie, how are ya? I sure hope she is found soon. I am sure the fighting,bickering,finger pointing and baseless allegations going on do not help this family, EITHER SIDE, and makes it more difficult to go through.  oh, BTW , wanna cookie? chocolate chip... but, hmm, maybe you do not even eat cookies..  ::MonkeyTease::   ::MonkeyWink:: 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 10, 2009, 08:01:13 PM
2009-08-05 069.FAMILY COURT MINUTES

2009-08-10 070.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE - CAROL CALDWELL FOR MOTHER

2009-08-10 071.MOTHERS EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION FOR COUNSELING

2009-08-10 FOR MINOR CHILD

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 10, 2009, 08:02:34 PM
  HaLeigh Cummings’ Grandmother, Teresa Neves, Brutally Interrogated and Threatened with Imprisonment by Putnam County Sheriff’s officials

listen http://writeintoaction.com/HaLeigh%20Cummings%20Staubs%20Holmseth%20Putnam%20Threaten%20Teresa%20Neves.mp3

August 7, 2009

by Timothy Charles Holmseth

At a scheduled meeting on Monday, July 13 between Putnam County Sheriff’s Department officials and Teresa Neves, paternal grandmother of missing five year-old HaLeigh Cumming, PCSD officials viciously berated the heart-sick grandmother and threatened her with imprisonment.

  According to Staubs, the officials were accusing Neves of disclosing their investigative tactics.

“[The police] are going to send everybody out,” Staubs said, disclosing a prediction he received from his inside source at the department. “They’re going to start threatening everybody. They’re trying to control it.”   

Expressing outrage at the recent tactics of the PCSD as it appears to become more and more paranoid each day, Staubs said the investigation seems to be hopelessly challenged and is in need of an investigation conducted solely by the FBI.

“You better figure out what you’re going to do. Are you going put an innocent grandma who’s hurting, looking for her kid, in jail? Or are you going to get the right police on this case?” Staubs said.   The only people present at the private meeting were Putnam County Sheriff’s Department officials: Detective Peggy Cone, Captain Dominic Piscatello, Undersheriff Rick Ryan, as well as Teresa Neves.

Within hours of that meeting Ft. Lauderdale Private Detective William ‘Cobra’ Staubs, who says he has contacts, knew all the details of what was done and said at the meeting.

Staubs’ version is consistent with others who know about the meeting (audio attached.)
According to Staubs, the officials were accusing Neves of disclosing their investigative tactics.

“[The police] are going to send everybody out,” Staubs said, disclosing a prediction he received from his inside source at the department. “They’re going to start threatening everybody. They’re trying to control it.”   

Expressing outrage at the recent tactics of the PCSD as it appears to become more and more paranoid each day, Staubs said the investigation seems to be hopelessly challenged and is in need of an investigation conducted solely by the FBI.

“You better figure out what you’re going to do. Are you going put an innocent grandma who’s hurting, looking for her kid, in jail? Or are you going to get the right police on this case?” Staubs said.

http://writeintoaction.com/
According to Tim Miller who arrived ready to search for Haleigh, he was turned away by the police, as they thought this was a police matter and did not appreciate help in searching.






Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 10, 2009, 08:06:38 PM
Hi All just checkin the post here today and I have been wondering..... ::MonkeyNoNo::Does anyone know why Rons uncle Donald R. Squires said he didnt want to squeal on Kin?
I don't know, anybody?  ::MonkeyConfused::

I found it on here http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:rFZGJgflJLQJ:justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com/+justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us but I couldnt click on the comments and there wasnt much on it.

We don't know if that is a factual quote so pretty hard to answer.

And it looks like the 12 comments posted have been removed.
actually, the commwnts have not been removed, the blog has. Blog has been removed

Sorry, the blog at justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com has been removed. This address is not available for new blogs.

I have heard that is Pirates or was Pirates blog and we know how honest she was on WS   ::MonkeyRoll::

Justice for Haleigh is back


http://criminalconversation.lefora.com/2009/08/08/justice-for-haleigh-is-back/page1/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 10, 2009, 08:16:25 PM
Hi All just checkin the post here today and I have been wondering..... ::MonkeyNoNo::Does anyone know why Rons uncle Donald R. Squires said he didnt want to squeal on Kin?
I don't know, anybody?  ::MonkeyConfused::

I found it on here http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:rFZGJgflJLQJ:justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com/+justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us but I couldnt click on the comments and there wasnt much on it.

We don't know if that is a factual quote so pretty hard to answer.

And it looks like the 12 comments posted have been removed.
actually, the comments have not been removed, the blog has. Blog has been removed

Sorry, the blog at justiceforhaleigh.blogspot.com has been removed. This address is not available for new blogs.

I have heard that is Pirates or was Pirates blog and we know how honest she was on WS   ::MonkeyRoll::
self edit to fix my typo....

Justiceforhaleigh's Blog

Family Court Activity today August 10, 2009
Filed under: Uncategorized — justiceforhaleigh @ 9:00 pm

From the Putnam County Court Docket
2009-08-05    069.FAMILY COURT MINUTES
2009-08-10    070.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE – CAROL CALDWELL FOR MOTHER
2009-08-10    071.MOTHERS EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION FOR COUNSELING
2009-08-10    FOR MINOR CHILD

It looks as if Crystal has a new attorney for the family dockets.

It also appears that Crystal is petitioning the court for an emergency hearing for Ronald Jr. to receive some counseling.  What a shame that Crystal is being forced to petition the courts for such a thing.   I can only assume that means that Ron Cummings is not permitting this child to receive therapy and this is Crystal’s only recourse.

One would assume that young Ronald Jr. would have been receiving counseling since his big sister allegedly disappeared from the bedroom in which they were both sleeping.   One would also assume that a caring parent would support counseling for his son and would not force the other parent to file for an emergency hearing in order to have the child receive such much needed help.


http://justiceforhaleigh.wordpress.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 10, 2009, 08:46:34 PM
I feel sorry for everyone who loves Haleigh..this has to be a living nightmare....
God bless Haleigh and hope that she is found soon...

Hi cookie, how are ya? I sure hope she is found soon. I am sure the fighting,bickering,finger pointing and baseless allegations going on do not help this family, EITHER SIDE, and makes it more difficult to go through.  oh, BTW , wanna cookie? chocolate chip... but, hmm, maybe you do not even eat cookies..  ::MonkeyTease::   ::MonkeyWink:: 

Hi Searching...how are you?
I hope that Haleigh is found soon too! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 10, 2009, 10:14:58 PM
Haleigh Cummings investigation reaches 6-month mark

Last Update: 6:32 pm

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- Both Haleigh Cummings' mother and father say the pain of losing Haleigh hasn’t changed a bit since day one. Monday marks six months since anyone saw her, and investigators say they are no closer to finding out what happened to her.

“There’s somebody out there that knows something…we’re not giving up hope. We’re working this as aggressively as we were on day one, we’re just looking for that one piece of information,” said Lt. Johnny Greenwood of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office.

“Somebody knows what happened to Haleigh Cummings, and we’re just waiting on that one piece of information that’s going to break the case right open,” said Greenwood.

Remarks like that are what fuel both of Haleigh’s parents to go on everyday. Both Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield say the six month mark is devastating, but what’s worse is that Haleigh’s sixth birthday is only one week away on August 17th.

“We talked about it because it was coming up soon, and now her birthday’s coming up soon, and that’s going to be really hard for me,” said Crystal Sheffield.

Haleigh’s mother spoke exclusively with Action News on the 6 month mark of her daughter’s disappearance. Crystal says she remembers Haleigh’s 5th birthday party last year.

“I will say that, she’s a daddy’s girl, but she’s momma’s baby…she’s my first baby, so whatever she wanted she got. If she didn’t get what she wanted she’d pitch a fit. After that, she opened the rest of her presents and she was nothing but smiles and giggles,” said Sheffield.

Inside Ronald Cummings' home, Haleigh’s Great Grandmother sat in a chair wearing a shirt with Haleigh’s face on it. She says the past six months have been most difficult on Haleigh’s father and little brother.


“He just doesn’t understand why his sissy won’t come home. And he talks about her. If he goes to the store, if he gets a candy bar he has to get his sister a candy bar. If he gets a toy he has to get a toy. His nightmares aren’t as bad as they used to be, but he won’t go to sleep unless his daddy or Misty are in the house,” said Annette Sykes.

“He knows that somebody stole his sister. But it just doesn’t sink in. You know, he’s so young and he doesn’t understand what that means,” said Sykes.

Both sides of Haleigh’s family say they wish the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office contacted them more to let them know the latest in the investigation.

“They’ve done everything they can with what they have, but me being a mom I just feel like there’s more that they can do...I don’t know what else to do,” said Crystal Sheffield.

“For us to just have to sit here and wait, and wait, and wait, and nobody call to say anything, I guarantee you if it was their child or grandchild they’d be jumping up and down screaming,” said Annette Sykes.

We took the family’s concerns to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office. A Deputy there says it is keeping all of the specifics of the investigation close to the cuff. The Deputy also said he was unaware that investigators had not called the family in awhile, and would be addressing that with them.

“I don’t know the status of the callbacks, I’ll have to look into it,” said Lt. Johnny Greenwood.

The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office did say the Haleigh Cummings investigation is far from a cold case. It says tips come in daily, but many are not factual or just don’t pan out. Deputies also tell Action News a member of the FDLE is currently going over every single tip and lead that has come in to make sure no stone is left unturned. Action News has also confirmed a new chief investigator has taken over the case, and she is the head of Putnam County’s missing persons division.

Both sides of Haleigh’s family also tell Action News they are ready to put aside their differences and work together to try and find Haleigh.

“It’s something we should have all done a long time ago. I just think both sides of the family should come together for Haleigh…I feel it’s just the right thing to do,” said Crystal Sheffield.

Sheffield is holding a drive to try and gather school supplies for classrooms where Haleigh used to attend school. It’s going to be in downtown Palatka on Saturday, August 15th from 10am-5pm at Riverfront Park.

Ronald Cummings family is doing two separate events to honor Haleigh’s birthday. On Sunday August 16th, his family will hold a candlelight vigil at the First Baptist Church of Welaka at 3pm. Then on Monday August 17th at 2:16pm, he will be releasing purple and red balloons with fliers showing Haleigh’s information. The Cummings are encouraging everyone to download her missing person’s flier from the FDLE’s website and attach it to balloons and do the same on Monday.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Haleigh-Cummings-investigation-reaches-6-month/p4wXKq55rEauOjBTjViGfQ.cspx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 10, 2009, 10:35:01 PM
(Video)Haleigh Cummings investigation reaches 6-month mark

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Haleigh-Cummings-investigation-reaches-6-month/p4wXKq55rEauOjBTjViGfQ.cspx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 10, 2009, 10:43:46 PM
(http://www.bloggernews.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/back-door-to-haleighs-house-from-side-trailer.jpg)

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Haleigh Cummings - Has Satsuma Forgotten?
Posted on August 10th, 2009

by Armando in All News, Society and Culture, crime

This article tugged at my heart strings. It proves to me that there are decent people out there. Armando is a gentleman that I have great respect for. Unlike so many others that prefer the safety of their own computer, he took some time out to actually visit Satsuma. It was by no means his first visit, he and his young family lived not far from the area when Haleigh Cummings first went missing. One would think that with the little girls 6th birthday, and the 6 month anniversary of her disappearance, a small town like Satsuma would be a buzz - Simon

I wrote this article simply to help in the finding of Haleigh Ann Marie Cummings. As everyone knows this little girl was abducted from her home in Satsuma Fl, but not many have had the opportunity to go there themselves and see the suspicious settings and rural areas in which she could have vanished into. I took it up on my self to drive there and have a look around shall we say. But with one thing in mind to see how many fliers or post about Haleigh I would find. I never intended to go there as a spectator or some hero but rather a concerned citizen worried about the whereabouts of a missing child, I was able to take a few pictures that kept me thinking.

The streets were empty. The locals spoke about football games and fishing. The police I noticed seemed to be having a normal day. The sad thing to me about all that was that I was minutes away from Haleigh’s house and not one rose bush on the side of the road, or a sign reading “WE MISS YOU HALEIGH”, no memorial or sign of a community morning a missing child. I know to some it may sound harsh but not even a poster or flier saying MISSING CHILD! As I drove closer my heart began to beat faster with the thought “what if this was my child?”

I stopped at Monroe and Green Ln and started to wonder if I should do this. The whole trip, the whole mission sort of say was simply to see how the community was taking the whole thing, how many fliers or posters or memorials or any awareness of Haleigh missing I saw. So far nothing, but I was confident that maybe in her street would be different. I made a right on Monroe and slowly drove through, scared, anxious, just wanting to see something that represents the little girl who everyone has become obsessed with (some for good some for bad) missing, and again nothing. Nothing on HER road, nothing.

I drove through this dirt road and the trailers are not as bad as some may perceive. The trailer next to where Haleigh once played around and ate her meals and lived in was empty. So I figure I would get out of my truck and look around. I stood at the trailer which pointed directly to the back door where Haleigh was taken out off. My heart sunk to the ground as my prayers were silently mumble to myself and God. I just stared in disbelieve.

I quickly called my wife who was picking up our oldest daughter from her aunts and broke down on her. Broke down knowing that this could have been my child innocently living her life, and some scum individual can lurk through the shadows preying on her. I took some pictures and left immediately. I jumped in my truck and punched the pedal down and ripped through this community that does not even have the decency to post a simple flier for Haleigh. On my way out I stopped at the St John’s River Club and several gas stations and even MeeMa’s and nothing. They know about her but no signs. Seems the whole town is under wraps.

Woods behind the trailer, is this where she went?

I did this just to see what attention Haleigh was receiving in her home town, seems to me like the bloggers care more. Sorry but it’s true. I’ve read a lot of comments and some are positive wishing Haleigh well and others are frustrated asking for answers. And the truth is we are all entitled to our own opinion. Whether one agrees or the other doesn’t. We all have a genuine concern for this little girl. And that is why Balloons for Haleigh seem so right to me. Because in the mist of all of us disagreeing and bickering, on the 17th we have one common; filling the sky with purple and red balloons. The ones that wish her well, and the ones who think the family is involved, and the ones who just want her FOUND. We no longer have that uncommon but now we all agree on releasing these balloons into the air. Now that’s sharing a common.

In ending, everyone from TJ Hart to Simon, Cobra and all of those who comment and post and blog and call in with your opinions to Simon’s show are doing more for Haleigh then her own community. I did not see not one flier or post asking for Haleigh Cummings whereabouts. Not one memorial in her honor. No red and purple ribbons around trees. NOTHING. I left my daughter’s teddy bear at Haleigh’s intersection. I did not see anything else! Whether it’s because they have been instructed to or threatened or maybe they just don’t care if Haleigh went missing. I don’t know that’s up to us to decide as the ones who care that Haleigh Cummings is found.

This is not to take shots at any member of the Satsuma community; it was simply to see how many fliers or post was seen. None.

Thank You

Armando

http://www.bloggernews.net/121869


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 10, 2009, 11:03:30 PM
Goodnight all!

May God shine his light of love down upon this earth tomorrow and reveal HaLeigh's whereabouts and deliver her home safely.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 11, 2009, 01:55:47 AM
http://public.pcso.us/jail/booking.aspx

Looks like Donald Sapp has been arrested.....Thank God........now mybe if he knows anything now would be the time for him to talk........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Thunder Bunny on August 11, 2009, 02:35:56 AM
Grrr.  I spent ten minutes looking for the link that I thought you posted Heart, with Grandma Sykes.  Wasn't there a video for that interview as well?  I'm either going crazy and starting to make things up or going crazy and can't remember anything. 

I was thinking...(scary, I know) But how many times have they changed investigators in six months?  How many times have they changed investigators in the last six weeks?  No wonder no one is getting in touch with the families!  (Marie said the same thing Grandma Sykes said in one of those articles.)  So no wonder, because no one that is investigating (or starting to investigate and then they put someone else on the job) knows what's going on!!  Or is it just me and it seems like a lot cause I really AM going crazy?



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 11, 2009, 05:31:28 AM
DONALD   SAPP
SATSUMA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 8/11/2009 1:02:40 AM  - Booking#: 09-03289
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 10/21/1970 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
794.011-2a   SEX ASSLT BY 18 YOA OLDER SEX BATTERY VICT UNDER 12 YOA   F   C    $0.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=755778&IMG=55520


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 11, 2009, 08:28:04 AM
snipped from article above by Armando:


In ending, everyone from TJ Hart to Simon, Cobra and all of those who comment and post and blog and call in with your opinions to Simon’s show are doing more for Haleigh then her own community. I did not see not one flier or post asking for Haleigh Cummings whereabouts. Not one memorial in her honor. No red and purple ribbons around trees. NOTHING. I left my daughter’s teddy bear at Haleigh’s intersection. I did not see anything else! Whether it’s because they have been instructed to or threatened or maybe they just don’t care if Haleigh went missing. I don’t know that’s up to us to decide as the ones who care that Haleigh Cummings is found.

I think that this is what we were talking about on here a week or so ago...it boggles my mind that there are no reminders such as posters, fliers, teddy bears etc...of Haleigh...not in her hometown and not in Baker County where the rest of her family lives...this is really disgraceful imo....
none of these people have jobs, why in heck are they not out posting info about Haleigh in every corner of their small towns??? I am more disgusted by this entire family than ever before...right down to the grand parents!! If her own family is not doing their part to keep Haleigh's name and picture out there, why would they expect total strangers to do more? So they are going to launch balloons and they are going to collect school supplies to mark Haleigh's birthday, what are they doing for her every day until then? what will they do in the days following? nothing! just like they are doing now...Ron gets into fights with family, does nothing that we know of to rally the town to look for Haleigh... Crystal still has not opened up the Haleighbug center in Baker county like she said that she would...how many months since it closed down in Satsuma? enough days to have set up a new center I would imagine......imo...I am beginning to wonder, is it just too much work for Crystal to be bothered doing it? and is it asking too much of Ron/Misty to stay out of trouble and to go out daily and ask questions about this missing little girl or to hang up posters in every little cubby hole in that town? must be since it appears that there is not a sign of a little girl missing in either parent's town....beyond unbelievable to me...ALL my personal opinion...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 11, 2009, 08:29:15 AM
snipped from article above by Armando:


In ending, everyone from TJ Hart to Simon, Cobra and all of those who comment and post and blog and call in with your opinions to Simon’s show are doing more for Haleigh then her own community. I did not see not one flier or post asking for Haleigh Cummings whereabouts. Not one memorial in her honor. No red and purple ribbons around trees. NOTHING. I left my daughter’s teddy bear at Haleigh’s intersection. I did not see anything else! Whether it’s because they have been instructed to or threatened or maybe they just don’t care if Haleigh went missing. I don’t know that’s up to us to decide as the ones who care that Haleigh Cummings is found.

I think that this is what we were talking about on here a week or so ago...it boggles my mind that there are no reminders such as posters, fliers, teddy bears etc...of Haleigh...not in her hometown and not in Baker County where the rest of her family lives...this is really disgraceful imo....
none of these people have jobs, why in heck are they not out posting info about Haleigh in every corner of their small towns??? I am more disgusted by this entire family than ever before...right down to the grand parents!! If her own family is not doing their part to keep Haleigh's name and picture out there, why would they expect total strangers to do more? So they are going to launch balloons and they are going to collect school supplies to mark Haleigh's birthday, what are they doing for her every day until then? what will they do in the days following? nothing! just like they are doing now...Ron gets into fights with family, does nothing that we know of to rally the town to look for Haleigh... Crystal still has not opened up the Haleighbug center in Baker county like she said that she would...how many months since it closed down in Satsuma? enough days to have set up a new center I would imagine......imo...I am beginning to wonder, is it just too much work for Crystal to be bothered doing it? and is it asking too much of Ron/Misty to stay out of trouble and to go out daily and ask questions about this missing little girl or to hang up posters in every little cubby hole in that town? must be since it appears that there is not a sign of a little girl missing in either parent's town....beyond unbelievable to me...ALL my personal opinion...


edited to show quote from Armando.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 11, 2009, 08:43:08 AM
Grrr.  I spent ten minutes looking for the link that I thought you posted Heart, with Grandma Sykes.  Wasn't there a video for that interview as well?  I'm either going crazy and starting to make things up or going crazy and can't remember anything. 

I was thinking...(scary, I know) But how many times have they changed investigators in six months?  How many times have they changed investigators in the last six weeks?  No wonder no one is getting in touch with the families!  (Marie said the same thing Grandma Sykes said in one of those articles.)  So no wonder, because no one that is investigating (or starting to investigate and then they put someone else on the job) knows what's going on!!  Or is it just me and it seems like a lot cause I really AM going crazy?



Good Morning All!

Thunder Bunny there is a video in the upper right side of this article if that is what you are speaking of.

Haleigh Cummings investigation reaches 6-month mark

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Haleigh-Cummings-investigation-reaches-6-month/p4wXKq55rEauOjBTjViGfQ.cspx

and there is a video here also located on the upper right side of the article:
Family Members Hold Out Hope for Haleigh's Return

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/florida/news-article.aspx?storyid=143152&catid=4


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 11, 2009, 08:46:16 AM
Haleigh Cummings investigation reaches 6-month mark

Last Update: 6:32 pm

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- Both Haleigh Cummings' mother and father say the pain of losing Haleigh hasn’t changed a bit since day one. Monday marks six months since anyone saw her, and investigators say they are no closer to finding out what happened to her.

“There’s somebody out there that knows something…we’re not giving up hope. We’re working this as aggressively as we were on day one, we’re just looking for that one piece of information,” said Lt. Johnny Greenwood of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office.

“Somebody knows what happened to Haleigh Cummings, and we’re just waiting on that one piece of information that’s going to break the case right open,” said Greenwood.

Remarks like that are what fuel both of Haleigh’s parents to go on everyday. Both Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield say the six month mark is devastating, but what’s worse is that Haleigh’s sixth birthday is only one week away on August 17th.

“We talked about it because it was coming up soon, and now her birthday’s coming up soon, and that’s going to be really hard for me,” said Crystal Sheffield.

Haleigh’s mother spoke exclusively with Action News on the 6 month mark of her daughter’s disappearance. Crystal says she remembers Haleigh’s 5th birthday party last year.

“I will say that, she’s a daddy’s girl, but she’s momma’s baby…she’s my first baby, so whatever she wanted she got. If she didn’t get what she wanted she’d pitch a fit. After that, she opened the rest of her presents and she was nothing but smiles and giggles,” said Sheffield.

Inside Ronald Cummings' home, Haleigh’s Great Grandmother sat in a chair wearing a shirt with Haleigh’s face on it. She says the past six months have been most difficult on Haleigh’s father and little brother.


“He just doesn’t understand why his sissy won’t come home. And he talks about her. If he goes to the store, if he gets a candy bar he has to get his sister a candy bar. If he gets a toy he has to get a toy. His nightmares aren’t as bad as they used to be, but he won’t go to sleep unless his daddy or Misty are in the house,” said Annette Sykes.

“He knows that somebody stole his sister. But it just doesn’t sink in. You know, he’s so young and he doesn’t understand what that means,” said Sykes.

Both sides of Haleigh’s family say they wish the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office contacted them more to let them know the latest in the investigation.

“They’ve done everything they can with what they have, but me being a mom I just feel like there’s more that they can do...I don’t know what else to do,” said Crystal Sheffield.

“For us to just have to sit here and wait, and wait, and wait, and nobody call to say anything, I guarantee you if it was their child or grandchild they’d be jumping up and down screaming,” said Annette Sykes.

We took the family’s concerns to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office. A Deputy there says it is keeping all of the specifics of the investigation close to the cuff. The Deputy also said he was unaware that investigators had not called the family in awhile, and would be addressing that with them.

  you don't have to sit there and wait for the LE to come to you, you could be over there sitting on their doorstep daily getting any crumb of info that they may throw your way..even if they said that they had nothing new...

“I don’t know the status of the callbacks, I’ll have to look into it,” said Lt. Johnny Greenwood.

don't know the status of callbacks on the only missing child in Satsuma? too busy Lt. Greenwood? chasing around re offending druggies? put their bond a little higher and perhaps they won't bond out within the first half hour of being arrested...

The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office did say the Haleigh Cummings investigation is far from a cold case. It says tips come in daily, but many are not factual or just don’t pan out. Deputies also tell Action News a member of the FDLE is currently going over every single tip and lead that has come in to make sure no stone is left unturned. Action News has also confirmed a new chief investigator has taken over the case, and she is the head of Putnam County’s missing persons division.

Both sides of Haleigh’s family also tell Action News they are ready to put aside their differences and work together to try and find Haleigh.
 
Now we're talking! Put aside your differences and put your heads together, compare any clues, info, tips that either of you may have been given and see if anything pans out...also, organize some news stories together showing a united front for Haleigh and put her name back in the news!


“It’s something we should have all done a long time ago. I just think both sides of the family should come together for Haleigh…I feel it’s just the right thing to do,” said Crystal Sheffield.

Amen! that is what some of us have been saying since Haleigh went missing! someone finally coming to their senses..good job Crystal....

Sheffield is holding a drive to try and gather school supplies for classrooms where Haleigh used to attend school. It’s going to be in downtown Palatka on Saturday, August 15th from 10am-5pm at Riverfront Park.

Ronald Cummings family is doing two separate events to honor Haleigh’s birthday. On Sunday August 16th, his family will hold a candlelight vigil at the First Baptist Church of Welaka at 3pm. Then on Monday August 17th at 2:16pm, he will be releasing purple and red balloons with fliers showing Haleigh’s information. The Cummings are encouraging everyone to download her missing person’s flier from the FDLE’s website and attach it to balloons and do the same on Monday.

all good all good!!!! Now let's doing something weekly, daily to keep Haleigh's name out there...go hang up posters....

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Haleigh-Cummings-investigation-reaches-6-month/p4wXKq55rEauOjBTjViGfQ.cspx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 11, 2009, 09:15:54 AM
DONALD   SAPP
SATSUMA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 8/11/2009 1:02:40 AM  - Booking#: 09-03289
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 10/21/1970 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
794.011-2a   SEX ASSLT BY 18 YOA OLDER SEX BATTERY VICT UNDER 12 YOA   F   C    $0.00    

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Florida Department of Law Enforcement - Sexual Offender / Predator Flyer
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Donald Lee Sapp
Date Of Photo: 04/07/2009

Designation:    Sexual Offender
Name:    Donald Lee Sapp
Status:    Released - Required to Register
Department of Corrections #:    558096
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Date of Birth:    10/21/1970
Race :    White
Sex:    Male
Hair:    Brown
Eyes:    Hazel
Height:    5'08"
Weight:    145 lbs
Sapp is registered as a Sexual Offender.
Positive identification cannot be established unless a fingerprint comparison is made.
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Donald Sapp
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315 2nd Ave
Satsuma, FL 32189-2953
Putnam COUNTY    Source: Dept. of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicle
Received: 04/08/2009
Type of Address: Permanent    
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11/16/1995    LEWD,LASCIVIOUS CHILD U/16; F.S. 800.04 (PRINCIPAL)    9301917    PUTNAM, FL    Not Available
Victim Information
Gender:Unknown  Minor:Yes

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=6441


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 11, 2009, 09:23:37 AM
thanks Heart...what a creepo that Sapp is!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 11, 2009, 10:28:14 AM
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: This is EXACTLY what HH reported to us from her lsat trip.......very sad especially in the town she disappeared from ::MonkeyMad:: Makes you wonder what is really going on in that town and why can't Ron/Misty get off their azz and post flyers and ribbons......not just Crystal - IIRC she has 3 kids to take care of and should do more, but Ron/Misty have jr and do nothing but frustrate LE with their lack of cooperation........PATHETIC and disgusting are words to come to mind
snipped from article above by Armando:


In ending, everyone from TJ Hart to Simon, Cobra and all of those who comment and post and blog and call in with your opinions to Simon’s show are doing more for Haleigh then her own community. I did not see not one flier or post asking for Haleigh Cummings whereabouts. Not one memorial in her honor. No red and purple ribbons around trees. NOTHING. I left my daughter’s teddy bear at Haleigh’s intersection. I did not see anything else! Whether it’s because they have been instructed to or threatened or maybe they just don’t care if Haleigh went missing. I don’t know that’s up to us to decide as the ones who care that Haleigh Cummings is found.

I think that this is what we were talking about on here a week or so ago...it boggles my mind that there are no reminders such as posters, fliers, teddy bears etc...of Haleigh...not in her hometown and not in Baker County where the rest of her family lives...this is really disgraceful imo....
none of these people have jobs, why in heck are they not out posting info about Haleigh in every corner of their small towns??? I am more disgusted by this entire family than ever before...right down to the grand parents!! If her own family is not doing their part to keep Haleigh's name and picture out there, why would they expect total strangers to do more? So they are going to launch balloons and they are going to collect school supplies to mark Haleigh's birthday, what are they doing for her every day until then? what will they do in the days following? nothing! just like they are doing now...Ron gets into fights with family, does nothing that we know of to rally the town to look for Haleigh... Crystal still has not opened up the Haleighbug center in Baker county like she said that she would...how many months since it closed down in Satsuma? enough days to have set up a new center I would imagine......imo...I am beginning to wonder, is it just too much work for Crystal to be bothered doing it? and is it asking too much of Ron/Misty to stay out of trouble and to go out daily and ask questions about this missing little girl or to hang up posters in every little cubby hole in that town? must be since it appears that there is not a sign of a little girl missing in either parent's town....beyond unbelievable to me...ALL my personal opinion...



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 11, 2009, 10:29:59 AM
Very pathetic and disgusting  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 11, 2009, 10:35:45 AM
Haleigh Cummings investigation reaches 6-month mark

Last Update: 6:32 pm

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- Both Haleigh Cummings' mother and father say the pain of losing Haleigh hasn’t changed a bit since day one. Monday marks six months since anyone saw her, and investigators say they are no closer to finding out what happened to her.

“There’s somebody out there that knows something…we’re not giving up hope. We’re working this as aggressively as we were on day one, we’re just looking for that one piece of information,” said Lt. Johnny Greenwood of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office.

“Somebody knows what happened to Haleigh Cummings, and we’re just waiting on that one piece of information that’s going to break the case right open,” said Greenwood.

Remarks like that are what fuel both of Haleigh’s parents to go on everyday. Both Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield say the six month mark is devastating, but what’s worse is that Haleigh’s sixth birthday is only one week away on August 17th.

“We talked about it because it was coming up soon, and now her birthday’s coming up soon, and that’s going to be really hard for me,” said Crystal Sheffield.

Haleigh’s mother spoke exclusively with Action News on the 6 month mark of her daughter’s disappearance. Crystal says she remembers Haleigh’s 5th birthday party last year.

“I will say that, she’s a daddy’s girl, but she’s momma’s baby…she’s my first baby, so whatever she wanted she got. If she didn’t get what she wanted she’d pitch a fit. After that, she opened the rest of her presents and she was nothing but smiles and giggles,” said Sheffield.

Inside Ronald Cummings' home, Haleigh’s Great Grandmother sat in a chair wearing a shirt with Haleigh’s face on it. She says the past six months have been most difficult on Haleigh’s father and little brother.


“He just doesn’t understand why his sissy won’t come home. And he talks about her. If he goes to the store, if he gets a candy bar he has to get his sister a candy bar. If he gets a toy he has to get a toy. His nightmares aren’t as bad as they used to be, but he won’t go to sleep unless his daddy or Misty are in the house,” said Annette Sykes.

“He knows that somebody stole his sister. But it just doesn’t sink in. You know, he’s so young and he doesn’t understand what that means,” said Sykes. ::MonkeyShocked::


WTH??????? Couldn't there be a "better" way of telling him about haleigh other than somebody stole her ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyEek:: Do any of these people have any common sense whatsoever ::MonkeyConfused::
Both sides of Haleigh’s family say they wish the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office contacted them more to let them know the latest in the investigation.

“They’ve done everything they can with what they have, but me being a mom I just feel like there’s more that they can do...I don’t know what else to do,” said Crystal Sheffield.

“For us to just have to sit here and wait, and wait, and wait, and nobody call to say anything, I guarantee you if it was their child or grandchild they’d be jumping up and down screaming,” said Annette Sykes.

We took the family’s concerns to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office. A Deputy there says it is keeping all of the specifics of the investigation close to the cuff. The Deputy also said he was unaware that investigators had not called the family in awhile, and would be addressing that with them.

“I don’t know the status of the callbacks, I’ll have to look into it,” said Lt. Johnny Greenwood.

The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office did say the Haleigh Cummings investigation is far from a cold case. It says tips come in daily, but many are not factual or just don’t pan out. Deputies also tell Action News a member of the FDLE is currently going over every single tip and lead that has come in to make sure no stone is left unturned. Action News has also confirmed a new chief investigator has taken over the case, and she is the head of Putnam County’s missing persons division.

Both sides of Haleigh’s family also tell Action News they are ready to put aside their differences and work together to try and find Haleigh.

“It’s something we should have all done a long time ago. I just think both sides of the family should come together for Haleigh…I feel it’s just the right thing to do,” said Crystal Sheffield.

Sheffield is holding a drive to try and gather school supplies for classrooms where Haleigh used to attend school. It’s going to be in downtown Palatka on Saturday, August 15th from 10am-5pm at Riverfront Park.

Ronald Cummings family is doing two separate events to honor Haleigh’s birthday. On Sunday August 16th, his family will hold a candlelight vigil at the First Baptist Church of Welaka at 3pm. Then on Monday August 17th at 2:16pm, he will be releasing purple and red balloons with fliers showing Haleigh’s information. The Cummings are encouraging everyone to download her missing person’s flier from the FDLE’s website and attach it to balloons and do the same on Monday.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Haleigh-Cummings-investigation-reaches-6-month/p4wXKq55rEauOjBTjViGfQ.cspx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 11, 2009, 10:38:42 AM
::MonkeyNoNo:: This is EXACTLY what HH reported to us from her lsat trip.......very sad especially in the town she disappeared from ::MonkeyMad:: Makes you wonder what is really going on in that town and why can't Ron/Misty get off their azz and post flyers and ribbons......not just Crystal - IIRC she has 3 kids to take care of and should do more, but Ron/Misty have jr and do nothing but frustrate LE with their lack of cooperation........PATHETIC and disgusting are words to come to mind
snipped from article above by Armando:


In ending, everyone from TJ Hart to Simon, Cobra and all of those who comment and post and blog and call in with your opinions to Simon’s show are doing more for Haleigh then her own community. I did not see not one flier or post asking for Haleigh Cummings whereabouts. Not one memorial in her honor. No red and purple ribbons around trees. NOTHING. I left my daughter’s teddy bear at Haleigh’s intersection. I did not see anything else! Whether it’s because they have been instructed to or threatened or maybe they just don’t care if Haleigh went missing. I don’t know that’s up to us to decide as the ones who care that Haleigh Cummings is found.

I think that this is what we were talking about on here a week or so ago...it boggles my mind that there are no reminders such as posters, fliers, teddy bears etc...of Haleigh...not in her hometown and not in Baker County where the rest of her family lives...this is really disgraceful imo....
none of these people have jobs, why in heck are they not out posting info about Haleigh in every corner of their small towns??? I am more disgusted by this entire family than ever before...right down to the grand parents!! If her own family is not doing their part to keep Haleigh's name and picture out there, why would they expect total strangers to do more? So they are going to launch balloons and they are going to collect school supplies to mark Haleigh's birthday, what are they doing for her every day until then? what will they do in the days following? nothing! just like they are doing now...Ron gets into fights with family, does nothing that we know of to rally the town to look for Haleigh... Crystal still has not opened up the Haleighbug center in Baker county like she said that she would...how many months since it closed down in Satsuma? enough days to have set up a new center I would imagine......imo...I am beginning to wonder, is it just too much work for Crystal to be bothered doing it? and is it asking too much of Ron/Misty to stay out of trouble and to go out daily and ask questions about this missing little girl or to hang up posters in every little cubby hole in that town? must be since it appears that there is not a sign of a little girl missing in either parent's town....beyond unbelievable to me...ALL my personal opinion...

I included Ron and Misty in my post IM...NONE of them are working and could do more...imo...it is also very sad that the town that her mother lives in has no posters of Haleigh either don't you think? surely none of the stores/gas stations/restaurants  that BOTH of these parents go to in either town would object to a poster of Haleigh hanging in their window...all they would have to do is ask and hang the poster themselves...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 11, 2009, 10:39:50 AM
WTH??????? Couldn't there be a "better" way of telling him about haleigh other than somebody stole her   Do any of these people have any common sense whatsoever   (I believe they have none, and it sealed the deal for me if that is what they told a small child  ::MonkeyNoNo::)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 11, 2009, 10:45:47 AM
WTH??????? Couldn't there be a "better" way of telling him about haleigh other than somebody stole her   Do any of these people have any common sense whatsoever   (I believe they have none, and it sealed the deal for me if that is what they told a small child  ::MonkeyNoNo::)

I seem to recall that Crystal had jr. on a tv interview  early on, where she was talking to  him about the man dressed in black who came in and took Sissy or something like that..not the exact words  but I wondered then what in the heck they had told this child about Haleigh missing......both sides need to think before they speak I guess...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 11, 2009, 10:47:55 AM
WTH??????? Couldn't there be a "better" way of telling him about haleigh other than somebody stole her   Do any of these people have any common sense whatsoever   (I believe they have none, and it sealed the deal for me if that is what they told a small child  ::MonkeyNoNo::)

That's what GGMA Sykes said.......FTLOG someone get Jr out of their care, poor kids probably needs massive therapy at this point. He probably wonders if he might "get stole" ::MonkeyConfused:: I'm furious now especially after reading this, and that Ron refuses to cooperate......we knew Misty wasn't and that was horrible, but now maybe we know WHY she wouldn't.  ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 11, 2009, 10:52:50 AM
yes I remember......very poor choice IMO, but for GGMA to tell Jr "Haleigh got stolen" is beyond the realm of comprehension to me...
Ron and Misty NEED to cooperate with the investigation .........and that we know from LE. I don't recall anything about the Sheffield side NOT cooperating, but I have my own theories why they aren't and it's all about CYA

 
WTH??????? Couldn't there be a "better" way of telling him about haleigh other than somebody stole her   Do any of these people have any common sense whatsoever   (I believe they have none, and it sealed the deal for me if that is what they told a small child  ::MonkeyNoNo::)

I seem to recall that Crystal had jr. on a tv interview  early on, where she was talking to  him about the man dressed in black who came in and took Sissy or something like that..not the exact words  but I wondered then what in the heck they had told this child about Haleigh missing......both sides need to think before they speak I guess...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 11, 2009, 10:57:18 AM
Ron Jr needs to be removed from this volatile situation, but I'm aware that won't happen, but for heaven's sake get the little boy some therapy, before it's too late.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 11, 2009, 11:04:14 AM
I hope that ron jr gets some therapy...I would think that a child who has gone through what he has gone through would need to talk with a  person who has training in dealing with children with this type of stress and tragedy in their lives..jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 11, 2009, 11:08:52 AM
I agree-incredibly volatile......Ron can't control his temper very well as we've seen, but we know all to well from all the current cases, ie Robert Manwill and so many others how DCF is failing to protect the children and it's a d@mn shame what these babies are subjected to, not just physically but emotionally too. I'm ready for a drink and it's not even noon ::MonkeyDevil2::

Ron Jr needs to be removed from this volatile situation, but I'm aware that won't happen, but for heaven's sake get the little boy some therapy, before it's too late.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 11, 2009, 11:13:07 AM
well I am going to the pool so see all of you later!

have a great day everyone...Perhaps we will hear some news on Haleigh soon!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 11, 2009, 11:28:10 AM
Video Clip of Marie Griffis & Crystal

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-08-09/story/haleighs_family_remains_divided_6_months_later


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 11, 2009, 11:37:30 AM

Man arrested for sexual battery involving young girl


Last Update: 10:50 am

(http://www.actionnewsjax.com/media/news/e/4/0/e40dfee1-38d9-4c8e-8e0e-905ef61ad645/Story.jpg)
Arrested and accused of sexual battery on a young girl

SATSUMA, Fla. -- A 38-year-old Satsuma man has been arrested for sexual battery involving a young girl.

Police say a 13-year-old girl told her parents that she had been sexually assaulted by Donald Sapp about two years ago.

After an investigation, Sapp was booked into the Putnam County Jail on one count of sexual battery.

He is being held without bond.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Man-arrested-for-sexual-battery-involving-young/1oo-zxx_pUqmFeojUPHB8Q.cspx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 11, 2009, 11:49:29 AM
I agree-incredibly volatile......Ron can't control his temper very well as we've seen, but we know all to well from all the current cases, ie Robert Manwill and so many others how DCF is failing to protect the children and it's a d@mn shame what these babies are subjected to, not just physically but emotionally too. I'm ready for a drink and it's not even noon ::MonkeyDevil2::

Ron Jr needs to be removed from this volatile situation, but I'm aware that won't happen, but for heaven's sake get the little boy some therapy, before it's too late.  ::MonkeyMad::
Hello IM, and yes I agree Ron Jr. needs some therapy,but I dont see it doing much good if he is to continue to live in the same surroundings that he has been subjected to his whole life, and until something is found out about what happened to Haleigh, I dont know how much good it will do,,,,,This should be another reason for Ronald to want Misty to go get her time line straight and sit down with LE and answer whatever questions they might have if she is not guilty, I dont see what the harm of doing that is, it just might help catch the real  criminal and help LE to drop her from their list of suspects.....
OH and Im glad someone finally wrote about the posters and such not being in the stores and things, I know what I did and did not see........guess someone else had to tell it though..............oh well.........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 11, 2009, 11:57:20 AM
I agree-incredibly volatile......Ron can't control his temper very well as we've seen, but we know all to well from all the current cases, ie Robert Manwill and so many others how DCF is failing to protect the children and it's a d@mn shame what these babies are subjected to, not just physically but emotionally too. I'm ready for a drink and it's not even noon ::MonkeyDevil2::

Ron Jr needs to be removed from this volatile situation, but I'm aware that won't happen, but for heaven's sake get the little boy some therapy, before it's too late.  ::MonkeyMad::
I'm ready for one and I don't even drink no more, I'll indulge in a RC Cola  ::MonkeyRoll:: I thought Ron Jr had gotten some therapy early on?  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 11, 2009, 11:59:47 AM
I agree-incredibly volatile......Ron can't control his temper very well as we've seen, but we know all to well from all the current cases, ie Robert Manwill and so many others how DCF is failing to protect the children and it's a d@mn shame what these babies are subjected to, not just physically but emotionally too. I'm ready for a drink and it's not even noon ::MonkeyDevil2::

Ron Jr needs to be removed from this volatile situation, but I'm aware that won't happen, but for heaven's sake get the little boy some therapy, before it's too late.  ::MonkeyMad::
Hello IM, and yes I agree Ron Jr. needs some therapy,but I dont see it doing much good if he is to continue to live in the same surroundings that he has been subjected to his whole life, and until something is found out about what happened to Haleigh, I dont know how much good it will do,,,,,This should be another reason for Ronald to want Misty to go get her time line straight and sit down with LE and answer whatever questions they might have if she is not guilty, I dont see what the harm of doing that is, it just might help catch the real  criminal and help LE to drop her from their list of suspects.....
OH and Im glad someone finally wrote about the posters and such not being in the stores and things, I know what I did and did not see........guess someone else had to tell it though..............oh well.........
I see your point HH, but somekind of therapy might help, and like I asked before I thought he got some early on. Now I'm just going to say it, could it be that Ron/Misty don't want therapy for the child, because he might say things they don't want him to say?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 11, 2009, 12:07:48 PM
I agree-incredibly volatile......Ron can't control his temper very well as we've seen, but we know all to well from all the current cases, ie Robert Manwill and so many others how DCF is failing to protect the children and it's a d@mn shame what these babies are subjected to, not just physically but emotionally too. I'm ready for a drink and it's not even noon ::MonkeyDevil2::

Ron Jr needs to be removed from this volatile situation, but I'm aware that won't happen, but for heaven's sake get the little boy some therapy, before it's too late.  ::MonkeyMad::
Hello IM, and yes I agree Ron Jr. needs some therapy,but I dont see it doing much good if he is to continue to live in the same surroundings that he has been subjected to his whole life, and until something is found out about what happened to Haleigh, I dont know how much good it will do,,,,,This should be another reason for Ronald to want Misty to go get her time line straight and sit down with LE and answer whatever questions they might have if she is not guilty, I dont see what the harm of doing that is, it just might help catch the real  criminal and help LE to drop her from their list of suspects.....
OH and Im glad someone finally wrote about the posters and such not being in the stores and things, I know what I did and did not see........guess someone else had to tell it though..............oh well.........
I see your point HH, but somekind of therapy might help, and like I asked before I thought he got some early on. Now I'm just going to say it, could it be that Ron/Misty don't want therapy for the child, because he might say things they don't want him to say?
I think the victums advocate epople had someone talk to him early on, but a regular schedule with a trained therapist is what they are wanting now, but like you say, who knows how many appointments he will make it to since he lives with Ronald and Misty...I dont know ...we will just have to wait and see, maybe GM Sykes will step in and get him there since they live with her also who knows, but I do think it will do him some good to talk to someone that is on neither side...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 11, 2009, 12:19:58 PM
I can't even imagine how scared he is, I'm sure his thought of being stolen must be awful. One of my neighbor's kids who is the same age as Jr, when his grandpa died, for months I kept hearing him say to the other kids, that he was going to die, and the kids kept telling him no you aren't let's just play. So I wonder if Jr is even enjoying anything with the fears hanging over him?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 11, 2009, 12:25:24 PM
I can't even imagine how scared he is, I'm sure his thought of being stolen must be awful. One of my neighbor's kids who is the same age as Jr, when his grandpa died, for months I kept hearing him say to the other kids, that he was going to die, and the kids kept telling him no you aren't let's just play. So I wonder if Jr is even enjoying anything with the fears hanging over him?
Yea, I know how that goes, but I just worry if he really did see something or if he was really asleep and didnt hear or see anything, if he knows something deep down then his fears have to worse because who or what he might have seen just may till be around him and that has to be bad........for his sake I hope he knows nothing....that might be a little easier for him to deal with, its just a bad situation all the way around...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 11, 2009, 12:27:46 PM
I can't even imagine how scared he is, I'm sure his thought of being stolen must be awful. One of my neighbor's kids who is the same age as Jr, when his grandpa died, for months I kept hearing him say to the other kids, that he was going to die, and the kids kept telling him no you aren't let's just play. So I wonder if Jr is even enjoying anything with the fears hanging over him?
Yea, I know how that goes, but I just worry if he really did see something or if he was really asleep and didnt hear or see anything, if he knows something deep down then his fears have to worse because who or what he might have seen just may till be around him and that has to be bad........for his sake I hope he knows nothing....that might be a little easier for him to deal with, its just a bad situation all the way around...
You got that right, bad situation all the way around  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 11, 2009, 12:32:24 PM
I can't even imagine how scared he is, I'm sure his thought of being stolen must be awful. One of my neighbor's kids who is the same age as Jr, when his grandpa died, for months I kept hearing him say to the other kids, that he was going to die, and the kids kept telling him no you aren't let's just play. So I wonder if Jr is even enjoying anything with the fears hanging over him?
Yea, I know how that goes, but I just worry if he really did see something or if he was really asleep and didnt hear or see anything, if he knows something deep down then his fears have to worse because who or what he might have seen just may till be around him and that has to be bad........for his sake I hope he knows nothing....that might be a little easier for him to deal with, its just a bad situation all the way around...
You got that right, bad situation all the way around  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Yes, its bad.......but IMO....someone has to talk soon, someone has to know what happened and the only reason I can think of that someone that might know what happened to Haleigh has not went down to LE and spilled their guts to get the reward money is because, the only one that knows what happened is the one that caused Haleigh to be gone to begin with, and if thats the case then just how in the Hell is anyone ever gonna find out anything...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: SuzieQ on August 11, 2009, 12:56:32 PM
http://justiceforhaleigh.wordpress.com/

 I was able to speak with someone connected to the Sheffield/Griffis family and obtained more information about the action taken in the Putnam County Family Court yesterday.

Since Haleigh’s disappearance Law Enforcement and the Victim’s Advocate office have been recommending and offering free counseling for Ron Cummings Jr.   According to the custody agreement, all medical treatment Haleigh and Ronald Junior receive must be disclosed to and approved by both parents.

Crystal has wanted Junior to receive counseling for the last six months.  So have Teresa Neves and Annette Sykes.  However, Ron Cummings has refused to allow Ron Jr. to receive counseling of any kind.  When Crystal’s six week visitation schedule with Ron Jr. was established she contacted the Victim’s Advocate Office of the Florida Attorney General.   She completed all of the paperwork required to begin counseling and hoped that through this channel Ron Jr. would obtain the help she believes he desperately needs.

Unfortunately, the Victim’s Advocate Office required that Ron Cummings agree to the counseling and he once again refused to allow his son to talk with any therapist, counselor or mental health professional of any kind.  Without Ron’s agreement, the Victim’s Advocate Office had no choice but to decline to provide assistance to Ron Jr.

Crystal believes strongly that Ron Jr. needs some kind of counseling.  Because Ron Cummings would not permit this, she had no choice but to take legal action.   An emergency hearing should take place this week and at that time the documentation of Ron Cummings refusal to allow counseling will be presented to the court.   Hopefully the Judge assigned to the case will understand how desperately Ron Jr. needs to talk with someone and will order Ron to cooperate with getting counseling for his son.

Should the judge find it appropriate to refuse counseling for a little boy who’s big sister was allegedly kidnapped from the room in which he was sleeping, I hope the new attorney working with Crystal will take action that will elevate the issue to a higher court in Florida.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 11, 2009, 01:01:09 PM
SuzieQ thanks for that info, I guess it fits with my thoughts that Ron doesn't want Jr to talk, afraid of what he might say. To bad he isn't thinking about the welfare of Jr.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 11, 2009, 01:10:36 PM
SuzieQ thanks for that info, I guess it fits with my thoughts that Ron doesn't want Jr to talk, afraid of what he might say. To bad he isn't thinking about the welfare of Jr.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Or Haleigh for that matter....it appears as usual he is only thinking of himself if this is indeed true, but we know something WAS filed with the court regarding counseling so I tend to believe something IS going on.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 11, 2009, 01:12:29 PM
SuzieQ thanks for that info, I guess it fits with my thoughts that Ron doesn't want Jr to talk, afraid of what he might say. To bad he isn't thinking about the welfare of Jr.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Or Haleigh for that matter....it appears as usual he is only thinking of himself if this is indeed true, but we know something WAS filed with the court regarding counseling so I tend to believe something IS going on.... ::MonkeyTongue::
Me too, and if he is forced to have Jr see a counselor he won't be too happy about that  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 11, 2009, 01:20:47 PM
Actually it reminds me of when I was going thru a divorce from Satan ::MonkeyDevil2:: and my son who was 3 1/2 was having nightmares and all kind of problems including telling me he didn't want to visit his dad because he was scared of him, so I explained to Satan that he couldn't pick him up that day and that I had taken him to a child psychologist and he had another appt 2 days from then. Well he went ballistic and told me I needed a court order to take him, sadly that day I found out why he didn't want him anywhere near a professional ::MonkeyNoNo::

SuzieQ thanks for that info, I guess it fits with my thoughts that Ron doesn't want Jr to talk, afraid of what he might say. To bad he isn't thinking about the welfare of Jr.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Or Haleigh for that matter....it appears as usual he is only thinking of himself if this is indeed true, but we know something WAS filed with the court regarding counseling so I tend to believe something IS going on.... ::MonkeyTongue::
Me too, and if he is forced to have Jr see a counselor he won't be too happy about that  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: theboyzmom on August 11, 2009, 04:52:41 PM
Actually it reminds me of when I was going thru a divorce from Satan ::MonkeyDevil2:: and my son who was 3 1/2 was having nightmares and all kind of problems including telling me he didn't want to visit his dad because he was scared of him, so I explained to Satan that he couldn't pick him up that day and that I had taken him to a child psychologist and he had another appt 2 days from then. Well he went ballistic and told me I needed a court order to take him, sadly that day I found out why he didn't want him anywhere near a professional ::MonkeyNoNo::

SuzieQ thanks for that info, I guess it fits with my thoughts that Ron doesn't want Jr to talk, afraid of what he might say. To bad he isn't thinking about the welfare of Jr.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Or Haleigh for that matter....it appears as usual he is only thinking of himself if this is indeed true, but we know something WAS filed with the court regarding counseling so I tend to believe something IS going on.... ::MonkeyTongue::
Me too, and if he is forced to have Jr see a counselor he won't be too happy about that  ::MonkeyRoll::

Sadly IM that seems to be the  main reason people do not want kids taken to therapists. I know that my ex was not happy when my 10 y/o was ordered by the court to go- mostly because my ex had to hear about how his actions affected the kids.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 11, 2009, 05:05:24 PM
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Attorney Carol A. Caldwell

Licensure

    * Licensed to practice law in Florida
    * Licensed registered nurse in Florida


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 11, 2009, 05:12:32 PM
(http://public.pcso.us/jail/adb.asp?IMG=37631)

KRISTINA  RENEE  PREVATT

San Mateo ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 8/11/2009 4:17:53 PM  - Booking#: 09-03302
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 5/30/1990 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
843.15-1a   FAILURE TO APPEAR    F   T    $0.00    
843.15-1a   FAILURE TO APPEAR    F   T    $0.00    
                $0.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=755794&IMG=37631


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 11, 2009, 05:15:37 PM
They should just keep Nay Nay there at the jail  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 11, 2009, 05:19:10 PM


KRISTINA  RENEE  PREVATT

San Mateo ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 8/11/2009 4:17:53 PM  - Booking#: 09-03302
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 5/30/1990 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
843.15-1a   FAILURE TO APPEAR    F   T    $0.00    
843.15-1a   FAILURE TO APPEAR    F   T    $0.00    
                $0.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=755794&IMG=37631

Warrants were for:

PREVATT,KRISTINA RENEE    W   F   5/30/1990   PROBATION VIOLATION
PREVATT,KRISTINA RENEE    W   F   5/30/1990   DANGEROUS DRUGS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 11, 2009, 05:20:33 PM
Actually it reminds me of when I was going thru a divorce from Satan ::MonkeyDevil2:: and my son who was 3 1/2 was having nightmares and all kind of problems including telling me he didn't want to visit his dad because he was scared of him, so I explained to Satan that he couldn't pick him up that day and that I had taken him to a child psychologist and he had another appt 2 days from then. Well he went ballistic and told me I needed a court order to take him, sadly that day I found out why he didn't want him anywhere near a professional ::MonkeyNoNo::

SuzieQ thanks for that info, I guess it fits with my thoughts that Ron doesn't want Jr to talk, afraid of what he might say. To bad he isn't thinking about the welfare of Jr.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Or Haleigh for that matter....it appears as usual he is only thinking of himself if this is indeed true, but we know something WAS filed with the court regarding counseling so I tend to believe something IS going on.... ::MonkeyTongue::
Me too, and if he is forced to have Jr see a counselor he won't be too happy about that  ::MonkeyRoll::

Sadly IM that seems to be the  main reason people do not want kids taken to therapists. I know that my ex was not happy when my 10 y/o was ordered by the court to go- mostly because my ex had to hear about how his actions affected the kids.

They certainly don't like to hear anything negative about their actions having consequences on the kids.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 11, 2009, 05:21:48 PM
They should just keep Nay Nay there at the jail  ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyShocked::

Amen to that NRCG


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 11, 2009, 05:27:02 PM
They should just keep Nay Nay there at the jail  ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyShocked::

Amen to that NRCG
It is so sad to see so many young people ruining their lives. I remember the first pic I saw of her sitting on her porch with her baby. She looks so different now, such a shame.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 11, 2009, 06:12:11 PM
They should just keep Nay Nay there at the jail  ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyShocked::

Amen to that NRCG
It is so sad to see so many young people ruining their lives. I remember the first pic I saw of her sitting on her porch with her baby. She looks so different now, such a shame.

That was Amber Brooks sitting on the porch with her baby, no rose.

I get them mixed up too.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 11, 2009, 06:13:10 PM
 Thanks  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 11, 2009, 06:14:53 PM
Thanks  ::MonkeyConfused::

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::  hard to keep all these characters straight sometimes isn't it?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 11, 2009, 06:18:14 PM
Thanks  ::MonkeyConfused::

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::  hard to keep all these characters straight sometimes isn't it?
It is but now I remember  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 11, 2009, 07:18:37 PM
I wonder if there is any relationship between Crystal's new lawyer, Carol Ann Caldwell and Attorney Kevin Caldwell of the Palatka office of the Florida Division of Children and Families, who informed Ronald's attorneys, Kimball & Snider that the investigation is closed with no factual finding of abuse against Ronald Cummings.

I sure would like to see the documents in order to see if they contain anything regarding counseling for Ron Jr.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mostpopular/story/Haleigh-Cummings-mother-fires-lawyer/MJLzNHfa_kW9NEtIY25Psw.cspx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 11, 2009, 07:43:11 PM
I wonder if there is any relationship between Crystal's new lawyer, Carol Ann Caldwell and Attorney Kevin Caldwell of the Palatka office of the Florida Division of Children and Families, who informed Ronald's attorneys, Kimball & Snider that the investigation is closed with no factual finding of abuse against Ronald Cummings.

I sure would like to see the documents in order to see if they contain anything regarding counseling for Ron Jr.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mostpopular/story/Haleigh-Cummings-mother-fires-lawyer/MJLzNHfa_kW9NEtIY25Psw.cspx


yes.. that will be interesting to see those documents...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 11, 2009, 08:10:32 PM
 It's  unfortunate that Ron C has custody of his children by Crystal, in that Ron and Misty are  drug addicts and Ron has a violent streak he cannot control.  The lack of cooperation of Ron and Misty, and the inconsistencies in Misty's story, suggests there is more than what meets the eye.  I believe it is entirely possible that Ron fatally injured Haleigh in one of his violent attacks.  He very well could have been under the influence of drugs.  His crying jags suggest drugs also.  This is a dark enclave near Satsuma, well back in the sticks, some distance from civilization.  Back there in the sticks disposal is not that difficult, especially with allegators lurking.  Misty and Ron care only about their next high, for there is not more in this life for them.  They live a dark life from high to high.  They have no or little education, so what more is there than the drug induced highs, or the next drug dealer.  Haleigh is totally irrelevant to them.  I do hope I am wrong, but I have no hope of finding Haleigh in this environment.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 11, 2009, 08:41:49 PM
It's  unfortunate that Ron C has custody of his children by Crystal, in that Ron and Misty are  drug addicts and Ron has a violent streak he cannot control.  The lack of cooperation of Ron and Misty, and the inconsistencies in Misty's story, suggests there is more than what meets the eye.  I believe it is entirely possible that Ron fatally injured Haleigh in one of his violent attacks.  He very well could have been under the influence of drugs.  His crying jags suggest drugs also.  This is a dark enclave near Satsuma, well back in the sticks, some distance from civilization.  Back there in the sticks disposal is not that difficult, especially with allegators lurking.  Misty and Ron care only about their next high, for there is not more in this life for them.  They live a dark life from high to high.  They have no or little education, so what more is there than the drug induced highs, or the next drug dealer.  Haleigh is totally irrelevant to them.  I do hope I am wrong, but I have no hope of finding Haleigh in this environment.
  I am sorry, but do you know them personally to be able to say these things as facts? That is the problem with this case IMO.. everyone is so quick to post their opinions as facts. Back to lurking I go.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 11, 2009, 08:50:17 PM
Justiceforhaleigh's Blog


First Coast News Article Part 2 August 11, 2009
Filed under: Uncategorized — justiceforhaleigh @ 6:58 pm

Second installment of my observations concerning this article;

 

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-08-09/story/haleighs_family_remains_divided_6_months_later

“They took a child-abduction investigation and made it a personal investigation,” he said. “Instead of keeping the focus on finding Haleigh, they made the focus on Misty and what she was doing one weekend and what happened six months ago and what happened seven years ago. It was tunnel vision.”


How can investigators NOT make the investigation about Misty when she is the last person reported to have seen Haleigh?


How can investigators ignore Misty’s drug activities that occurred just hours before Haleigh disappeared?

As to the six months ago comment, I wonder what happened at that time that has Ron irked?  It sure hasn’t hit the news or the blogs yet.

 

Regarding seven years ago, could Ron be talking about some of his drug arrests?

Sorry Ron but when a man chooses to have a relationship with and marry someone who does drugs, it’s hard to believe the man is not participating in such activities.

 

Later in the article Marie Griffis said this;


“The next step should be for detectives to name those who are no longer suspects”, she said.

“You need to start excluding the people that you know do not have this information,” she said.


Bowling said it takes rock-solid alibis before detectives can eliminate anyone and those have not been established. He said the best that can be done is assign degrees of suspicion to people.”


I find it interesting that Major Bowling mentions that rock solid alibis have not been established.  Perhaps the article I wrote a couple of weeks ago concerning the shift hours at PDM Bridge were correct.   Clearly Ron’s “I was at work” alibi is not holding up with the authorities or he would be cleared.

 One can assume that others who have not been cleared don’t have alibis if they were at home; but we would expect that being at work would be a “rock solid” alibi.

I saved the best for last with this quote from Ron Cummings;


“There should have been more attention to Crystal’s family,” he said. “I think they should have paid more attention to everyone rather than just me and Misty.”


He said questioning should have been broader.


“They didn’t have the big picture,” he said. “Why do they not question everybody?”


I cannot believe this man has the audacity to point the finger of blame at Crystal and her family in one breath and in the next, tell the media that he is not cooperating with the investigation.

What kind of pathology would explain this behavior?   Are there any mental health professionals who would like to weigh in on this?


http://justiceforhaleigh.wordpress.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 11, 2009, 08:53:11 PM
Interesting article  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Idgie on August 11, 2009, 09:20:40 PM
It's  unfortunate that Ron C has custody of his children by Crystal, in that Ron and Misty are  drug addicts

Who could they be placed with that is drug free?

  His crying jags suggest drugs also. 

They also suggest deep depression and Post traumatic Stress syndrome.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Idgie on August 11, 2009, 09:24:24 PM
It's  unfortunate that Ron C has custody of his children by Crystal, in that Ron and Misty are  drug addicts and Ron has a violent streak he cannot control.  The lack of cooperation of Ron and Misty, and the inconsistencies in Misty's story, suggests there is more than what meets the eye.  I believe it is entirely possible that Ron fatally injured Haleigh in one of his violent attacks.  He very well could have been under the influence of drugs.  His crying jags suggest drugs also.  This is a dark enclave near Satsuma, well back in the sticks, some distance from civilization.  Back there in the sticks disposal is not that difficult, especially with allegators lurking.  Misty and Ron care only about their next high, for there is not more in this life for them.  They live a dark life from high to high.  They have no or little education, so what more is there than the drug induced highs, or the next drug dealer.  Haleigh is totally irrelevant to them.  I do hope I am wrong, but I have no hope of finding Haleigh in this environment.
  I am sorry, but do you know them personally to be able to say these things as facts? That is the problem with this case IMO.. everyone is so quick to post their opinions as facts. Back to lurking I go.

ITA



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 11, 2009, 09:29:31 PM
It's  unfortunate that Ron C has custody of his children by Crystal, in that Ron and Misty are  drug addicts and Ron has a violent streak he cannot control.  The lack of cooperation of Ron and Misty, and the inconsistencies in Misty's story, suggests there is more than what meets the eye.  I believe it is entirely possible that Ron fatally injured Haleigh in one of his violent attacks.  He very well could have been under the influence of drugs.  His crying jags suggest drugs also.  This is a dark enclave near Satsuma, well back in the sticks, some distance from civilization.  Back there in the sticks disposal is not that difficult, especially with allegators lurking.  Misty and Ron care only about their next high, for there is not more in this life for them.  They live a dark life from high to high.  They have no or little education, so what more is there than the drug induced highs, or the next drug dealer.  Haleigh is totally irrelevant to them.  I do hope I am wrong, but I have no hope of finding Haleigh in this environment.
 
 I am sorry, but do you know them personally to be able to say these things as facts? That is the problem with this case IMO.. everyone is so quick to post their opinions as facts. Back to lurking I go.

ITA




ITA as well...there has been plenty of drug use on both sides of the family...to be fair...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 11, 2009, 09:33:36 PM
Let's just say none of them are strangers to drugs.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 11, 2009, 09:36:02 PM
Let's just say none of them are strangers to drugs.

thank you Rosie ....and that is correct...sad but correct...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 11, 2009, 10:16:23 PM
Missing boy identified as 5-year-old Hassani Campbell of Fremont

By Kristin Bender
Oakland Tribune
Posted: 08/10/2009 08:36:43 PM PDT
Updated: 08/11/2009 10:08:20 AM PDT

(http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site571/2009/0811/20090811_072930_missing_VIEWER.jpg)
Oakland police are searching for Hassani Campbell, 5, of Oakland. The boy, who is disabled, was last seen Monday afternoon in the Rockridge neighborhood.

OAKLAND — More than a dozen police continue to search this morning for a missing boy with cerebral palsy who was last seen in Oakland Monday afternoon.

Five-year-old Hassani Campbell of Fremont was reported missing from the 6000 block of College Avenue at around 4:15 p.m., according to the Oakland police youth services unit.

Witnesses told police Campbell was in Oakland with a family friend, who was dropping off another child to Campbell's aunt.

Campbell was left in the car, a newer model BMW, while the man took the other child into the aunt's home. The boy, who wears braces on both legs, was gone when the man returned, witnesses said. TV footage shot last night showed the car being towed.

The shopping district in the area of College and Harwood avenues, has been closed on and off during the search, which last night included search dogs and a helicopter.

The boy is described as light-skinned African-American, standing 3 feet tall and weighing about 40 pounds. He was wearing a gray sweatshirt and gray sweatpants the last time he was seen.

Anyone with information is asked to call police at 510-238-3641


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 11, 2009, 10:21:19 PM
I'm afraid this isn't going to end happily  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 11, 2009, 10:24:35 PM
I'm afraid this isn't going to end happily  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I know...I kindof feel the same way...sad to say...we have seen way too many of these stories lately...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 11, 2009, 10:25:49 PM
I'm afraid this isn't going to end happily  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I know...I kindof feel the same way...sad to say...we have seen way too many of these stories lately...
Nothing seems to be adding up.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 11, 2009, 10:27:11 PM
I'm afraid this isn't going to end happily  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I know...I kindof feel the same way...sad to say...we have seen way too many of these stories lately...

edited cause I clicked post to soon...meant to add...

we must keep the faith though! miracles happen every day and this little one could be the miracle we are looking for..

nite everyone...hopefully tomorrow will be a brighter day for missing children everywhere and they will be found.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 11, 2009, 10:27:57 PM
I'm afraid this isn't going to end happily  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I know...I kindof feel the same way...sad to say...we have seen way too many of these stories lately...
Nothing seems to be adding up.

I agree with you Rosie...it isn't adding up for me either!
talk to you tomorrow...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 11, 2009, 10:31:24 PM
Have a good evening  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 11, 2009, 10:37:33 PM
Have a good evening  ::MonkeyAngel::
good evening Rose, and yes, Ive had a bad feelings that things were not gonna end good every since I heard the 911 call..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 11, 2009, 10:49:35 PM
Have a good evening  ::MonkeyAngel::
good evening Rose, and yes, Ive had a bad feelings that things were not gonna end good every since I heard the 911 call..
Yes  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: clarice on August 11, 2009, 11:52:27 PM
Can anyone tell me Crystal Sheffield's birthdate? I'd appreciate it.
 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 12, 2009, 02:10:15 AM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Tams on August 12, 2009, 03:23:43 AM
I'm afraid this isn't going to end happily  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I know...I kindof feel the same way...sad to say...we have seen way too many of these stories lately...
Nothing seems to be adding up.

I agree with you Rosie...it isn't adding up for me either!
talk to you tomorrow...

. . . Seems many of us are sharing similar feelings . . . reading the article from the man who went down there and found NOTHING that shows ANYONE is concerned about looking for Haleigh - as stated by HigherHopes previously - solidified and says it all, IMO.

What parent would EVER EVER EVER just give up and walk away from "finding their missing child" if they were truly "missing"? And not even PRETEND to be trying to look? No way. Look at all of the examples - whose loved ones have been gone for MUCH longer - what true grief and fear and determination really look like: the Ocasio & Kesse families, Christine Sheddy's family, the Holloways, and on and on and on . . .

IMO, the only answer to my question above is: the parents who know EXACTLY where that child is.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: melisb on August 12, 2009, 08:16:32 AM
Please allow me my soapbox moment and don't throw nanners at me.  Everyone is understandably getting frustrated not being able to find these missing babies.  Some of us are forgetting that all posts are in "our opinion only" unless backed by a proven fact with a link to somewhere or something solid.  Strayzes' post says, "lack of cooperation-story suggests", "I believe it is entirely possible", "very well could be", etc., etc., etc.,...  This post could've been worded a little differently but I don't take everything said to heart.  There were some obvious truths to some of the OPINION stated but let's not come out swinging so hard. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 12, 2009, 08:55:35 AM
Let's just say none of them are strangers to drugs.

I do agree with this, although Ron has a far more extensive record for hardcore drugs, and he does appear to have an extremely short fuse (thus requiring LE to camp out at PDM a few days during shift change and the cops worrying about their safety due to Ron being known to carry a gun) during his last arrest. Violent tendencies + drugs + leaving precious children in the care of Misty coming off 3 day bender of sex/drugs = disaster!!!!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 12, 2009, 09:03:25 AM
Please allow me my soapbox moment and don't throw nanners at me.  Everyone is understandably getting frustrated not being able to find these missing babies.  Some of us are forgetting that all posts are in "our opinion only" unless backed by a proven fact with a link to somewhere or something solid.  Strayzes' post says, "lack of cooperation-story suggests", "I believe it is entirely possible", "very well could be", etc., etc., etc.,...  This post could've been worded a little differently but I don't take everything said to heart.  There were some obvious truths to some of the OPINION stated but let's not come out swinging so hard. 

BINGO!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 12, 2009, 09:35:59 AM
Please allow me my soapbox moment and don't throw nanners at me.  Everyone is understandably getting frustrated not being able to find these missing babies.  Some of us are forgetting that all posts are in "our opinion only" unless backed by a proven fact with a link to somewhere or something solid.  Strayzes' post says, "lack of cooperation-story suggests", "I believe it is entirely possible", "very well could be", etc., etc., etc.,...  This post could've been worded a little differently but I don't take everything said to heart.  There were some obvious truths to some of the OPINION stated but let's not come out swinging so hard. 

BINGO!!
Agreed, and the facts are Haleigh was in the care of her dad and Misty when she went missing, not her mom's care at the time. And Tams and IM I also agree with what you both stated as well.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Thunder Bunny on August 12, 2009, 12:37:05 PM
Heart, thanks for providing those links that I spent forever looking for.  You rock!  And I adore you!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 12, 2009, 01:34:31 PM
Dead Rat Involved in Feud Between Croslin and Cummings

Posted By: Dave Wax Posted By: Gary Detman     Created: 8/12/2009 11:31:04 AM    Updated: 8/12/2009 12:41:40 PM

PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- The Putnam County Sheriff's Office says they are investigating another incident that may involve Ronald Cummings.

Cummings has been the subject of attention this year as the father of a missing girl for whom there has been an Amber Alert for over six months.

The PCSO says Hank Croslin, Jr., filed a report last Saturday about a dead rat in his mailbox.

He told deputies a neighbor saw Ronald Cummings putting something in his mailbox around midnight.

Cummings was arrested last week following an altercation with Croslin, who is the brother of Cummings' wife, Misty.

The sheriff's office says the incident is not tied to the search for 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings. Her birthday is Sunday. She disappeared after going to bed on the night of February 9.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=143252&catid=3


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Tams on August 12, 2009, 01:51:30 PM
Dead Rat Involved in Feud Between Croslin and Cummings

Posted By: Dave Wax Posted By: Gary Detman     Created: 8/12/2009 11:31:04 AM    Updated: 8/12/2009 12:41:40 PM

PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- The Putnam County Sheriff's Office says they are investigating another incident that may involve Ronald Cummings.

Cummings has been the subject of attention this year as the father of a missing girl for whom there has been an Amber Alert for over six months.

The PCSO says Hank Croslin, Jr., filed a report last Saturday about a dead rat in his mailbox.

He told deputies a neighbor saw Ronald Cummings putting something in his mailbox around midnight.

Cummings was arrested last week following an altercation with Croslin, who is the brother of Cummings' wife, Misty.

The sheriff's office says the incident is not tied to the search for 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings. Her birthday is Sunday. She disappeared after going to bed on the night of February 9.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=143252&catid=3

Well, my my my . . . and just WHAT do you suppose the significance of a dead rat could be, hmmm? Seems to me that Ronnie boy is getting a bit unnerved at the possibility that anyone who may have any knowledge of any wrongdoings (is that a word? LOL) committed by him might be about to "RAT" him out. . . and he's already loudly and publicly declared that he has no qualms about killing anyone who crosses him. How much longer do you suppose he can continue to try to control this entire situation and everyone involved in it?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 12, 2009, 01:55:15 PM
Dead Rat Involved in Feud Between Croslin and Cummings

Posted By: Dave Wax Posted By: Gary Detman     Created: 8/12/2009 11:31:04 AM    Updated: 8/12/2009 12:41:40 PM

PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- The Putnam County Sheriff's Office says they are investigating another incident that may involve Ronald Cummings.

Cummings has been the subject of attention this year as the father of a missing girl for whom there has been an Amber Alert for over six months.

The PCSO says Hank Croslin, Jr., filed a report last Saturday about a dead rat in his mailbox.

He told deputies a neighbor saw Ronald Cummings putting something in his mailbox around midnight.

Cummings was arrested last week following an altercation with Croslin, who is the brother of Cummings' wife, Misty.

The sheriff's office says the incident is not tied to the search for 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings. Her birthday is Sunday. She disappeared after going to bed on the night of February 9.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=143252&catid=3

Well, my my my . . . and just WHAT do you suppose the significance of a dead rat could be, hmmm? Seems to me that Ronnie boy is getting a bit unnerved at the possibility that anyone who may have any knowledge of any wrongdoings (is that a word? LOL) committed by him might be about to "RAT" him out. . . and he's already loudly and publicly declared that he has no qualms about killing anyone who crosses him. How much longer do you suppose he can continue to try to control this entire situation and everyone involved in it?
Hopefully not much longer  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 12, 2009, 01:57:02 PM
Ronald Cummings, the father of missing Putnam County 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings, has been questioned about a headless rat found in an in-law's mailbox.

Cummings' brother-in-law Hank Croslin Jr. told investigators he found the dead rat in his Satsuma mailbox Saturday and feared for his life. A fight between Croslin and Cummings two days earlier resulted in Cummings' arrest.

A neighbor of Croslin's reported seeing Ronald Cummings' truck stop at the Croslin's mailbox around midnight the night before.

The neighbor said the truck moved down the street, turned around and drove past with Cummings driving and someone else in the cab, according to a Putnam County Sheriff's Office report.

Cummings and a second person were interviewed later Saturday and denied knowing about the rat.

Cummings and Croslin fought early Thursday when Croslin and his parents came to the mobile home were Cummings and his wife Misty Cummings stay with Cummings' grandmother.

Ronald Cummings was arrested and charged with felony burglary with battery.

In the report, Croslin said he feared retaliation.

Cummings' daughter was reported missing Feb. 10 from the mobile home where he was living with his girlfriend and his two children. The case gained national attention and has not been solved.

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-08-12/story/father_of_missing_haleigh_cummings_questioned_about_headless_rat


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 12, 2009, 02:05:37 PM
A headless rat  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Tams on August 12, 2009, 02:06:20 PM
In the article referenced by Heart above:

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-08-12/story/father_of_missing_haleigh_cummings_questioned_about_headless_rat

   . . . apparently not only did RC find a dead rat to make his point, but he beheaded it. This violent twisted POS is showing us all just exactly what he is capable of, no?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Tams on August 12, 2009, 02:08:20 PM
A headless rat  ::MonkeyEek::

We both saw that at the same time I do believe . . . EEK is right!!!


Hiya Rosie!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 12, 2009, 02:16:29 PM
Heart, thanks for providing those links that I spent forever looking for.  You rock!  And I adore you!

My pleasure and thank you Thunder Bunny!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 12, 2009, 02:26:41 PM
Ronald Cummings, the father of missing Putnam County 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings, has been questioned about a headless rat found in an in-law's mailbox.

Cummings' brother-in-law Hank Croslin Jr. told investigators he found the dead rat in his Satsuma mailbox Saturday and feared for his life. A fight between Croslin and Cummings two days earlier resulted in Cummings' arrest.

A neighbor of Croslin's reported seeing Ronald Cummings' truck stop at the Croslin's mailbox around midnight the night before.

The neighbor said the truck moved down the street, turned around and drove past with Cummings driving and someone else in the cab, according to a Putnam County Sheriff's Office report.

Cummings and a second person were interviewed later Saturday and denied knowing about the rat.

Cummings and Croslin fought early Thursday when Croslin and his parents came to the mobile home were Cummings and his wife Misty Cummings stay with Cummings' grandmother.

Ronald Cummings was arrested and charged with felony burglary with battery.

In the report, Croslin said he feared retaliation.

Cummings' daughter was reported missing Feb. 10 from the mobile home where he was living with his girlfriend and his two children. The case gained national attention and has not been solved.

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-08-12/story/father_of_missing_haleigh_cummings_questioned_about_headless_rat


 ::MonkeyShocked:: I'm just glad a neighbor verified this and it's not a he said-he said situation, but to me it sounds like a message. I seriously think Ron needs a mental health evaluation, he seems to be a few fries short of a happy meal or just exceptionally mean  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 12, 2009, 02:42:40 PM
Dead Rat Involved in Feud Between Croslin and Cummings


Well, my my my . . . and just WHAT do you suppose the significance of a dead rat could be, hmmm? Seems to me that Ronnie boy is getting a bit unnerved at the possibility that anyone who may have any knowledge of any wrongdoings (is that a word? LOL) committed by him might be about to "RAT" him out. . . and he's already loudly and publicly declared that he has no qualms about killing anyone who crosses him. How much longer do you suppose he can continue to try to control this entire situation and everyone involved in it?
Hopefully not much longer  ::MonkeyEek::
Well I had been giving the father of missing HaLeigh the benifit of doubt, but I am starting to think that perhaps Theresa Neves should have gotten her son some professional mental help long before this. jmo at this time.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 12, 2009, 02:56:47 PM
I agree, Ron is way overdue for a mental health evaluation.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 12, 2009, 03:29:38 PM
Missing girl's dad accused of putting headless rat in mailbox

By Lise Fisher & Karen Voyles
Staff writers

Published: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 at 1:25 p.m.
Last Modified: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 at 1:25 p.m.

(http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=GS&Date=20090812&Category=ARTICLES&ArtNo=908129940&Ref=AR)

Ronald Cummings was not charged but was questioned by Putnam County sheriff's deputies about the Aug. 8 rat incident, which was reported two days after Cummings was arrested in connection with another alleged incident involving his wife's family.

Deputies arrested Ronald Cummings Aug. 6 on a charge of burglary with assault or battery after he was accused of hitting his brother-in-law.

Deputies said Cummings and Hank Croslin Jr., the brother of Cummings' wife, Misty, got into a fight on Aug. 6 after Misty contacted her family and said she didn't want to stay at a home with her husband any longer.

When her brother and parents arrived, Hank Croslin said Ronald Cummings was "acting crazy" and swung at him. Croslin said that, as he tried to drive away, Cummings got into the vehicle and started hitting him again. Cummings, meanwhile, signed affidavits saying his brother-in-law and father-in-law were the aggressors, the Sheriff's Office reported. Deputies forwarded those affidavits to prosecutors for review, and Ronald Cummings was booked and later released on bond from the jail. The matter remains under investigation by the State Attorney's Office.

On Saturday, deputies were dispatched to Hank Croslin's home to investigate a claim that Ronald Cummings may have put a headless rat in Croslin's mailbox. Cummings told deputies he was not responsible for the incident.

Croslin told a deputy that he found the mutilated rodent in his mailbox and suspected Cummings put it there because, during the dispute a week earlier, Cummings allegedly told Croslin he would get back at him.

Croslin also told deputies that he knew Cummings owned several guns and he was afraid the headless rat was a sign Cummings was going to kill him. Croslin told deputies he wanted charges filed against Cummings.

A witness who lives nearby gave deputies a written statement about what she saw the previous night. The woman said she had been watching television and heard a truck coming up the road in front of her house. In her statement, the woman wrote that she saw Cummings driving his truck and saw him slow down in front of Croslin's house. Then, she said, he appeared to put something into the mailbox.

Cummings denied the allegation, deputies said, and also voluntarily agreed to be questioned about the incident and to provide a written statement.

Ronald Cummings is the father of Haleigh Cummings, who disappeared from the home she shared with him, her younger brother and her father's then-girlfriend Misty Croslin in February. Cummings and Croslin have since married.

Investigators continue to search for the 5-year-old girl, who has not been seen or heard from since. Haleigh, who has blond hair and brown eyes, weighed 39 pounds and was 3 feet tall when she was last seen.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090812/ARTICLES/908129940/-1/NEWS10?Title=Missing-girl-s-dad-accused-of-putting-headless-rat-in-mailbox-


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 12, 2009, 03:44:20 PM
Seriously, what type of individual puts a beheaded rat into someone's mailbox?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 12, 2009, 03:55:11 PM
Seriously, what type of individual puts a beheaded rat into someone's mailbox?

The type with a hot temper, sending a message and/or someone who has trouble controlling their reage ::MonkeyDevil2:: Just a guess ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 12, 2009, 03:57:29 PM
Seriously, what type of individual puts a beheaded rat into someone's mailbox?

The type with a hot temper, sending a message and/or someone who has trouble controlling their reage ::MonkeyDevil2:: Just a guess ::MonkeyBike::
I could just vomit with the thought of someone doing that, I don't care if it is a rat, things like that upset me. Disgusting  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 12, 2009, 04:06:44 PM
Isn't tampering with a mailbox a crime?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 12, 2009, 04:18:47 PM
Isn't tampering with a mailbox a crime?

yes, and it's federal.........is it just me or does this seem to be "escalating"  ::MonkeyTongue:: I have a feeling he is a ticking time bomb and sure as he77 wouldn't want to be around when he blows.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Monkey with Class on August 12, 2009, 04:21:20 PM
Isn't tampering with a mailbox a crime?

A former postal guy here.   A mailbox is a piece of Federal property.  The owner does buy it, but still remains federal property.  Contents inside for sure.  Structure could go that way as well. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 12, 2009, 04:30:51 PM
Thanks Monkey with Class and IM for your answers. Ron is a ticking time bomb, gee too much time on his hands, go and get a job and do something constructive  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 12, 2009, 05:33:00 PM
I wonder what Ron said to LE when questioned about this incident? He certainly couldn't use, I don't know, I was at work  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 12, 2009, 05:43:59 PM
Dead Rat Involved in Feud Between Croslin and Cummings


Well, my my my . . . and just WHAT do you suppose the significance of a dead rat could be, hmmm? Seems to me that Ronnie boy is getting a bit unnerved at the possibility that anyone who may have any knowledge of any wrongdoings (is that a word? LOL) committed by him might be about to "RAT" him out. . . and he's already loudly and publicly declared that he has no qualms about killing anyone who crosses him. How much longer do you suppose he can continue to try to control this entire situation and everyone involved in it?
Hopefully not much longer  ::MonkeyEek::
Well I had been giving the father of missing HaLeigh the benifit of doubt, but I am starting to think that perhaps Theresa Neves should have gotten her son some professional mental help long before this. jmo at this time.



Trust me, in the culture that Cummings lives in, professional mental help is not in the picture.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 12, 2009, 05:55:34 PM
Dead Rat Involved in Feud Between Croslin and Cummings


Well, my my my . . . and just WHAT do you suppose the significance of a dead rat could be, hmmm? Seems to me that Ronnie boy is getting a bit unnerved at the possibility that anyone who may have any knowledge of any wrongdoings (is that a word? LOL) committed by him might be about to "RAT" him out. . . and he's already loudly and publicly declared that he has no qualms about killing anyone who crosses him. How much longer do you suppose he can continue to try to control this entire situation and everyone involved in it?
Hopefully not much longer  ::MonkeyEek::
Well I had been giving the father of missing HaLeigh the benifit of doubt, but I am starting to think that perhaps Theresa Neves should have gotten her son some professional mental help long before this. jmo at this time.



Trust me, in the culture that Cummings lives in, professional mental help is not in the picture.
Wishful thinking I guess  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 12, 2009, 06:19:05 PM
Video:  Rat New Accusation In Putnam Family Feud


The dispute between the families involved in the life of 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings, who disappeared six months ago this week, continues to grow. The latest accusation involves a headless rat left in a mailbox.

http://www.news4jax.com/video/20375786/index.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 12, 2009, 06:36:37 PM
Video:  Rat New Accusation In Putnam Family Feud


The dispute between the families involved in the life of 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings, who disappeared six months ago this week, continues to grow. The latest accusation involves a headless rat left in a mailbox.

http://www.news4jax.com/video/20375786/index.html
  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 12, 2009, 06:51:45 PM
Video:  Rat New Accusation In Putnam Family Feud


The dispute between the families involved in the life of 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings, who disappeared six months ago this week, continues to grow. The latest accusation involves a headless rat left in a mailbox.

http://www.news4jax.com/video/20375786/index.html
  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Someone has too much time on their hands that could be better spent in searching for Haleigh.  So sad.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 12, 2009, 06:56:37 PM
"Haleigh Cummings has been missing since February. For her 6th birthday, we are doing a world-wide vigil to do from wherever you are. It will be on August 17, 2009 at 9 pm. Please watch this video for details, and if you do participate, send pictures of the vigil to meganprence@live.com. Also, please visit www.snapshotsearch.net and www.haleighbug.com to help missing children! "

http://www.youtube.com/v/twvZlrAzQ4U&hl=en&fs=1


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 12, 2009, 07:03:31 PM
Ronald Cummings, the father of missing Putnam County 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings, has been questioned about a headless rat found in an in-law's mailbox.

Cummings' brother-in-law Hank Croslin Jr. told investigators he found the dead rat in his Satsuma mailbox Saturday and feared for his life. A fight between Croslin and Cummings two days earlier resulted in Cummings' arrest.

A neighbor of Croslin's reported seeing Ronald Cummings' truck stop at the Croslin's mailbox around midnight the night before.

The neighbor said the truck moved down the street, turned around and drove past with Cummings driving and someone else in the cab, according to a Putnam County Sheriff's Office report.

Cummings and a second person were interviewed later Saturday and denied knowing about the rat.

Cummings and Croslin fought early Thursday when Croslin and his parents came to the mobile home were Cummings and his wife Misty Cummings stay with Cummings' grandmother.

Ronald Cummings was arrested and charged with felony burglary with battery.

In the report, Croslin said he feared retaliation.

Cummings' daughter was reported missing Feb. 10 from the mobile home where he was living with his girlfriend and his two children. The case gained national attention and has not been solved.

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-08-12/story/father_of_missing_haleigh_cummings_questioned_about_headless_rat
Really?  sounds like someone is about to lose it


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 12, 2009, 07:10:33 PM
Slowly but surely losing it  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 12, 2009, 07:15:42 PM
Art Harris Privately Admits Knowledge of Faked Photographs

(Photo-journalist secretly paid thousands by William 'Cobra'  Staubs to provide P/R for Crystal Sheffield and her attorney, Kim Picazio)

August 12, 2009

by Timothy Charles Holmseth

Ft. Lauderdale Private Investigator William 'Cobra' Staubs said Photo-journalist Art Harris, who sometimes appears on CNN, was paid thousands of dollars to follow Staubs around during his search activities regarding the HaLeigh Cummings disappearance. The fact that money had exchanged hands was supposed to be kept secret from the public.

The momentary payment effectively made Harris a public relations firm as Staubs acted as private investigator for Crystal Sheffield and her attorney, Kim Picazio.

The catalog of stories written by Harris and published at artharris.com will provide one with an idea of what Sheffield, Staubs, and Picazio received for money.

Staubs also said Harris admitted to him that a HaLeigh Cummings photo, which Harris had publicly stated was original and personally vouched for, was in fact re-touched.

Staubs recounted by paraphrase what Harris told him in mid-July about the controversial photographs. “Art in as much admitted to me that something was going on with the pictures – he said ‘what if we cleaned up a little acne or something like that?”

Staubs said Harris used the word "we."

The alleged admission by Harris is significant because he  had been publicly defending the integrity of the photos on his website The Bald Truth - artharris.com.

Staubs said Harris sounded proud of what he had done.  “It’s kind of like he gave me an itty bitty smirk out there, you know, maybe we did this (to the photo),” Staubs recounted, explaining how Harris was justifying the deception.

The conversation between Staubs and Harris about the photo was sparked by repeated emails and telephone calls Staubs said he was receiving from Harris. Staubs said Harris kept contacting him and asking him to apply some kind of pressure on Timothy Holmseth (publisher of Write Into Action) to remove his stories that were exposing the fake photos, which had been created to solicit money from the public on a website called haleighbug.com.

On June 24, 2009, Harris instructed his moderator to post the photo with a personal note from him that assured everyone the photo was authentic.

more...

http://www.writeintoaction.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 12, 2009, 07:31:55 PM
great...so while Haleigh is missing they're playing their own fame game. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 12, 2009, 07:52:46 PM
great...so while Haleigh is missing they're playing their own fame game. ::MonkeyNoNo::
There isn't to much going on in this case that isn't disgusting, what a shame  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: SuzieQ on August 12, 2009, 08:42:29 PM
Who is this guy?

/www.writeintoaction.com/Jeff%20Hardy%20Complaint.htm

Seems he has filed a complaint against the Sheriff and maybe half of the  County.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 12, 2009, 09:03:02 PM
Who is this guy?

/www.writeintoaction.com/Jeff%20Hardy%20Complaint.htm

Seems he has filed a complaint against the Sheriff and maybe half of the  County.

IMO, he's a bit of a kook


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Tina Bee on August 12, 2009, 09:19:09 PM
Ronald Cummings is coming undone.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 12, 2009, 09:28:45 PM
Ronald Cummings is coming undone.
I believe he is also.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 12, 2009, 09:58:12 PM
Ronald Cummings is coming undone.
I believe he is also.
You know Rose, something is up with Ronald Cummings ...IMO..and I have never been as sure of it as I am now, common sense and looking at past cases lets me know that he is coming unglue because the waiting and wondering is starting to get to him, he know something.....he;s hiding something , and he is scared to death that something is gonna come out that he wont be able to control and thats the reason for all the crazy stuff going on right now., also, the only reason I can see that is causing all this craziness with the Croslins is that he think s they may know something, and the only way I can believe that they do is that maybe Mist did say something to one of them right after this happened when she was staying back at home with her parents, and the only reason I know of as to why the Croslins{if they do know something} wouldnt talk is to save Misty from prosecution, but I think with everything going on that something is bound to come out sooner then later, something is going on and its just under the radar right now,,,,IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 12, 2009, 10:00:00 PM
Who is this guy?

/www.writeintoaction.com/Jeff%20Hardy%20Complaint.htm

Seems he has filed a complaint against the Sheriff and maybe half of the  County.

IMO, he's a bit of a kook
IA.....we seem to have the same opinion Klaas....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Thunder Bunny on August 13, 2009, 04:19:47 AM
If it were my daughter, I would have came unglued a longgggggg time ago.  :(


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: melisb on August 13, 2009, 07:38:50 AM
I think that maybe Ron has been doing this kind stuff for a long time and able to get away with it for whatever reasons.  It's just that there is a spotlight on him now and hopefully there will be consequences.  Retaliation seems to be something he's familiar with, didn't he say on the 911 call the night Haleigh went missing that he knew (or words to that effect) who did this and he would kill them if he got to them first.  Ron just might've done something really bad to someone and isn't just possible that in retaliation they just marched right in and took her right in front of Misty?  I still say lock her up for something minor, hold her for a while and tell her Ron is turning on her, going out with other women and she's probably ditzy and insecure enough to believe it and start spilling what she knows!!!!! ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 13, 2009, 07:39:54 AM
Haleigh's father is accused of placing rat in in-laws' mailbox

By CHAD SMITH  |   More by this reporter  |  chad.smith@staugustine.com  |   Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2009 ; Updated: 10:04 PM on Thursday, August 13, 2009

The saga of the search for Haleigh Ann-Marie Cummings, the 5-year-old Putnam County girl who has been missing since February, took another twist Wednesday, when police announced that her father was accused of leaving a decapitated rat in his in-laws' mailbox, days after a fistfight with the same in-laws landed him in jail.

Ronald Cummings' brother-in-law, Hank Croslin Jr., told police Saturday that he found a rat in his mailbox and suspected Cummings of putting it there "as a sign ... he was going to kill him," according to a police report.

Croslin, 23, signed a charge of retaliating on a witness against Cummings and an unnamed juvenile. In March, Cummings, 25, married Misty Croslin, 17, but it was not clear whether she was the listed juvenile.


Cummings, who denied the allegations and agreed to speak with a detective about the incident, has not been formally charged. The State Attorney's Office is reviewing the case, Assistant State Attorney Chris Kelley said.

Lt. Johnny Greenwood, a spokesman for the Putnam County Sheriff's Office, said the department released the report Wednesday after fielding several inquiries about it from reporters, but many of the documents related to the case could not be released.

"We're really not giving out any information on this thing," he said.

Cummings was arrested Aug. 5 after getting into a fight with Croslin and Hank Croslin Sr. on the front yard of his grandmother's house in Welaka.

Cummings allegedly entered his in-laws' van to punch the younger Croslin, and he was charged with burglary with assault or battery, a first-degree felony punishable by life in prison.

He was released from jail on bond the next afternoon, and Kelly said the State Attorney's Office is reviewing the burglary charge to determine if it has a case, standard protocol with felonies.

Cummings' mother-in-law, Lisa Croslin, told police she, too, thought he put the rat in her mailbox and said "she had several small children living with her at (her) residence and was afraid that Ronald would come there causing further problems with her son."

A neighbor, Patricia Kay Pierce, told police she was watching TV about midnight Saturday when she saw Cummings drive by her home with the juvenile in the passenger seat.

The juvenile's name was redacted from the police report.

Pierce said she saw one of the two get out of his truck and put something in a neighbor's mailbox.

Monday marked the six-month point since Haleigh was reported missing from her father's Satsuma home on Feb. 10.

Greenwood said investigators don't believe the recent tension between Cummings and his wife's family has anything to do with the girl's disappearance, but it is taking attention away from the search for her.

"We're focusing on trying to find Haleigh," he said, "and we don't want to be distracted by these little issues."

http://www.staugustine.com/stories/081309/news_1846820.shtml


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 13, 2009, 09:22:51 AM
If it were my daughter, I would have came unglued a longgggggg time ago.  :(

I would have too....that being said I wouldn't be putting dead headless rats in mailboxes, marrying the "one who got my child stole", nor going across Florida to get tattoos. Makes me wonder what the Croslins know via Misty and what Ron doesn't want "ratted: out on him. Pun intended ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 13, 2009, 09:39:37 AM
(http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/61/gismaptylerstreet.jpg)

Pierces live at 112 Tyler the Croslins at 116 Tyler


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2009, 09:40:20 AM
Most people who become unglued because their family member is missing or murdered try to do something constructive, like looking for their loved one, start or join an organization, do something good for the horrible misjustice that was done to their family. Most people are intelligent enough not to put headless rats in a mailbox.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 13, 2009, 09:58:42 AM
More of the same:

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/08/13/news/news02.txt

Deputies report headless rodent left in Cummings relative's mailbox
By Chris DeVitto
Published: Thursday, August 13, 2009 3:16 AM EDT

SATSUMA - Ronald Cummings' brother-in-law says someone put a headless rat in his mailbox.

A report from the Putnam County Sheriff's Office comes a few days after Cummings, the father of missing Satsuma girl Haleigh Cummings, was arrested and jailed for 12 hours on an assault charge after a fight with his brother-in- law, Hank Croslin Jr.

Cummings had an altercation with Croslin Jr. and other family members after they arrived at Cummings' Welaka home on Aug. 5.

Each claims the other was responsible for the altercation.

Because of the confrontation, Cummings is facing charges of burglary with battery. State Attorney Joe Boatwright said the case against Cummings is still under investigation.

A PCSO report filed on Saturday said deputies who arrived at the Satsuma residence of Croslin Jr. were told that Ronald Cummings was suspected of placing a headless rat in the mailbox because of the earlier incident involving the assault.

"Hank advised that during the investigation of the altercation, Ronald made several comments that he would get back at him," the report said.

A neighbor who witnessed the incident reported to deputies that Cummings' truck was seen near the mailbox about midnight and something was placed inside the box, the report said.

A deputy photographed the dead rat inside the mailbox before disposing of it, the report also said.

Later when deputies questioned Cummings about the incident, he denied he had anything to do with the rat, the report said.

Haleigh Cummings was reported missing at 3:27 a.m. Feb 10 by her babysitter, Misty Croslin, now Cummings' wife.

The discovery prompted a massive search, but no trace of the blond kindergartner has been found.

Haleigh's sixth birthday is Monday.

cdevitto@palatkadailynews.com


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2009, 10:28:25 AM
A neighbor who witnessed the incident reported to deputies that Cummings' truck was seen near the mailbox about midnight and something was placed inside the box, the report said.
If it is the same truck with Only God Can Judge Me, or whatever the exact statement is, written on the back window, that was really stupid......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2009, 10:41:34 AM
A neighbor, Patricia Kay Pierce, told police she was watching TV about midnight Saturday when she saw Cummings drive by her home with the juvenile in the passenger seat.

The juvenile's name was redacted from the police report.

Pierce said she saw one of the two get out of his truck and put something in a neighbor's mailbox
(Would Misty be considered a juvenile?)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 13, 2009, 11:13:07 AM
A neighbor, Patricia Kay Pierce, told police she was watching TV about midnight Saturday when she saw Cummings drive by her home with the juvenile in the passenger seat.

The juvenile's name was redacted from the police report.

Pierce said she saw one of the two get out of his truck and put something in a neighbor's mailbox
(Would Misty be considered a juvenile?)

Could be - but I thought she would be an emancipated minor due to her marriage, I sure as he77 hope it wasn't Jr ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: fatcatlurker on August 13, 2009, 11:48:21 AM
Thanks for the map and addresses Heart! 




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2009, 12:00:42 PM
A neighbor, Patricia Kay Pierce, told police she was watching TV about midnight Saturday when she saw Cummings drive by her home with the juvenile in the passenger seat.

The juvenile's name was redacted from the police report.

Pierce said she saw one of the two get out of his truck and put something in a neighbor's mailbox
(Would Misty be considered a juvenile?)

Could be - but I thought she would be an emancipated minor due to her marriage, I sure as he77 hope it wasn't Jr ::MonkeyMad::
Me too, that would be awful.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 13, 2009, 12:04:52 PM
A neighbor, Patricia Kay Pierce, told police she was watching TV about midnight Saturday when she saw Cummings drive by her home with the juvenile in the passenger seat.

The juvenile's name was redacted from the police report.

Pierce said she saw one of the two get out of his truck and put something in a neighbor's mailbox
(Would Misty be considered a juvenile?)

hangnon says:

If the witness had said they saw Ron pushing his truck past her house with the minor steering, then maybe I would think about believing her, since Ron's truck does not run.

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,139.msg63275.html#msg63275

Well we would have proof had LE told the reporter OR if the reporter had done a better job of investigative reporting and talked to the witnesses that were with Ron that night.  So no I don't have proof other then I, as well as others, have known, for several weeks that the truck is broken down

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,139.msg63288.html#msg63288

I guess you can call the SA office and ask who gave their statements regarding the report. I am not sure if they are available yet but they will be under the sunshine law. But I can tell you that yes there were witnesses to Ron's whereabouts that night and to the fact that his truck does not run.

I am sure Spunky will dig and find out the truth.

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,139.msg63301.html#msg63301


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2009, 12:12:00 PM
So, this is all a lie, and of course Ron would never do such a thing?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 13, 2009, 12:34:28 PM
So, this is all a lie, and of course Ron would never do such a thing?

Don't know at this point.  We will just have to wait and see.  I know that there have been posters posting that his truck was inoperable since this rat story began and others stating that his truck had been up on blocks at one time.

We will just have to wait for official reports from LE.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2009, 12:35:19 PM
So, this is all a lie, and of course Ron would never do such a thing?

Don't know at this point.  We will just have to wait and see.  I know that there have been posters posting that his truck was inoperable since this rat story began and others stating that his truck had been up on blocks at one time.

We will just have to wait for official reports from LE.
I'll wait and see.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 13, 2009, 12:58:01 PM
Posted: Thursday, 13 August 2009 10:12AM

HaLeigh Still Missing as Birthday Nears

Monday, August 17, 2009 is Haleigh Cummings 6th birthday. The Satsuma girl was abducted from her father Ronald Cummings' home in Hermit's Cove while in the care of her now-stepmother Misty Cummings.

Ronald, Misty and Haleigh's brother, Ron Jr., now live with Ronald's grandmother, Annette Sykes. In Sykes' home is a wrapped gift and several stuffed animals waiting for for Haleigh when she returns.

Family members remain hopeful, but anxious s her birthday nears. Annette Sykes told FirstCoast News this week,"It's waiting, you know, everyday waiting. It's waiting for somebody to say 'we've got HaLeigh.' It's like walking on egg shells all the time."

Ronald Cummings rarely sleeps and has been losing weight, according to friends of the family.

Ronald has been the focus of a couple of recent disputes with members of his wife's family. He was recently charges with burglary and assault or battery as the result of a fight in his grandmother's front yard with his brother-in-law and father-in-law. His latest bout of trouble came when Cummings' brother-in-law Hank Croslin Jr. accused him of placing a headless of a rat in his mailbox.

Lt. Johnny Greenwood with the Putnam County Sheriff's Office says law enforcement officials are wanting your information on this case. He says they are missing just one piece of this puzzle. All they want to do is bring HaLeigh Cummings home.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office also confirmed earlier reports that an FDLE agent is now combing through all leads to make sure nothing is missed.

The Sky has also learned that Misty Croslin-Cummings was asked again to come in for re-questioning in the child's disappearance. Misty now has an attorney and both have declined the request for futher quesioning.


Families Plan Birthday Events for HaLeigh

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4999874.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 13, 2009, 01:03:42 PM
Thanks for the map and addresses Heart! 





 ::MonkeyShocked:: FCL~good to see you stranger.......missed ya ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 13, 2009, 01:12:46 PM
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The Sky has also learned that Misty Croslin-Cummings was asked again to come in for re-questioning in the child's disappearance. Misty now has an attorney and both have declined the request for futher quesioning.


Sorry but that is BS!  Misty was the last one (according to her) to see Haleigh alive.  Why isn't she cooperating?  This is exactly why people like me think she and Ron are guilty of harming Haleigh.  If you have nothing to hide you hide nothing.  You cooperate.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 13, 2009, 01:30:03 PM
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The Sky has also learned that Misty Croslin-Cummings was asked again to come in for re-questioning in the child's disappearance. Misty now has an attorney and both have declined the request for futher quesioning.


Sorry but that is BS!  Misty was the last one (according to her) to see Haleigh alive.  Why isn't she cooperating?  This is exactly why people like me think she and Ron are guilty of harming Haleigh.  If you have nothing to hide you hide nothing.  You cooperate.

B I N G O  ::MonkeyMad::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 13, 2009, 01:34:12 PM
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The Sky has also learned that Misty Croslin-Cummings was asked again to come in for re-questioning in the child's disappearance. Misty now has an attorney and both have declined the request for futher quesioning.


Sorry but that is BS!  Misty was the last one (according to her) to see Haleigh alive.  Why isn't she cooperating?  This is exactly why people like me think she and Ron are guilty of harming Haleigh.  If you have nothing to hide you hide nothing.  You cooperate.

B I N G O  ::MonkeyMad::



Exactly.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 13, 2009, 01:38:19 PM
(snipped)

The Sky has also learned that Misty Croslin-Cummings was asked again to come in for re-questioning in the child's disappearance. Misty now has an attorney and both have declined the request for futher quesioning.


Sorry but that is BS!  Misty was the last one (according to her) to see Haleigh alive.  Why isn't she cooperating?  This is exactly why people like me think she and Ron are guilty of harming Haleigh.  If you have nothing to hide you hide nothing.  You cooperate.

Hopefully with this new FDLE agent involved in the case we will see some movement being made soon.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 13, 2009, 01:41:27 PM
Thanks for the map and addresses Heart! 




Sure fcl!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2009, 02:22:06 PM
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The Sky has also learned that Misty Croslin-Cummings was asked again to come in for re-questioning in the child's disappearance. Misty now has an attorney and both have declined the request for futher quesioning.


Sorry but that is BS!  Misty was the last one (according to her) to see Haleigh alive.  Why isn't she cooperating?  This is exactly why people like me think she and Ron are guilty of harming Haleigh.  If you have nothing to hide you hide nothing.  You cooperate.
I couldn't agree more with you, this is ridiculous.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2009, 02:22:44 PM
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The Sky has also learned that Misty Croslin-Cummings was asked again to come in for re-questioning in the child's disappearance. Misty now has an attorney and both have declined the request for futher quesioning.


Sorry but that is BS!  Misty was the last one (according to her) to see Haleigh alive.  Why isn't she cooperating?  This is exactly why people like me think she and Ron are guilty of harming Haleigh.  If you have nothing to hide you hide nothing.  You cooperate.

Hopefully with this new FDLE agent involved in the case we will see some movement being made soon.
Let's hope so.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 13, 2009, 02:54:48 PM
http://www.bloggernews.net/121899

Another Side Show: Haleigh Cummings Dad Accused of Putting Dead Rat in a Mailbox
Posted on August 13th, 2009 by Simon Barrett in crimeRead 24 times.

This just in from TJ, I have to admit that I am considering setting up a new category on the site, Haleigh Cummings Side Show. Are these people for real? The sad part is that the side shows extend far further than what is reported on. One day, after this case is solved, I am going to run a radio segment just on the sideshows - Simon

The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office says they are investigating another incident that may involve Ronald Cummings.

Cummings has been the subject of attention this year as the father of a missing girl for whom there has been an Amber Alert for over six months.

On Saturday, PCSO deputies were dispatched to Hank Croslin’s home to investigate a claim that Ronald Cummings may have put a headless rat in Croslin’s mailbox. Cummings told deputies he was not responsible for the incident.

(snipped)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2009, 03:16:47 PM
I can just imagine what all the other side shows are, can't wait to read that.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 13, 2009, 04:05:44 PM
I can just imagine what all the other side shows are, can't wait to read that.

I don't even know what to say.Poor little Haleigh.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2009, 04:06:35 PM
I can just imagine what all the other side shows are, can't wait to read that.

I don't even know what to say.Poor little Haleigh.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
I know, and poor little Jr  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 13, 2009, 04:30:30 PM
I can just imagine what all the other side shows are, can't wait to read that.

I don't even know what to say.Poor little Haleigh.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
I know, and poor little Jr  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I worry for him.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2009, 04:34:28 PM
I can just imagine what all the other side shows are, can't wait to read that.

I don't even know what to say.Poor little Haleigh.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
I know, and poor little Jr  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I worry for him.   ::MonkeyCool::
I sure hope he is allowed to get somekind of therapy.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 13, 2009, 05:23:11 PM
A neighbor, Patricia Kay Pierce, told police she was watching TV about midnight Saturday when she saw Cummings drive by her home with the juvenile in the passenger seat.

The juvenile's name was redacted from the police report.

Pierce said she saw one of the two get out of his truck and put something in a neighbor's mailbox
(Would Misty be considered a juvenile?)

hangnon says:

If the witness had said they saw Ron pushing his truck past her house with the minor steering, then maybe I would think about believing her, since Ron's truck does not run.

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,139.msg63275.html#msg63275

Well we would have proof had LE told the reporter OR if the reporter had done a better job of investigative reporting and talked to the witnesses that were with Ron that night.  So no I don't have proof other then I, as well as others, have known, for several weeks that the truck is broken down

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,139.msg63288.html#msg63288

I guess you can call the SA office and ask who gave their statements regarding the report. I am not sure if they are available yet but they will be under the sunshine law. But I can tell you that yes there were witnesses to Ron's whereabouts that night and to the fact that his truck does not run.

I am sure Spunky will dig and find out the truth.

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,139.msg63301.html#msg63301

But doesn't Gr Gma Sykes have a red truck ???? and wasn't that what they said that Ron was in when he was offering 50 dollars for the whereabouts of WBG???? ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 13, 2009, 05:40:26 PM
A neighbor, Patricia Kay Pierce, told police she was watching TV about midnight Saturday when she saw Cummings drive by her home with the juvenile in the passenger seat.

The juvenile's name was redacted from the police report.

Pierce said she saw one of the two get out of his truck and put something in a neighbor's mailbox
(Would Misty be considered a juvenile?)

hangnon says:

If the witness had said they saw Ron pushing his truck past her house with the minor steering, then maybe I would think about believing her, since Ron's truck does not run.

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,139.msg63275.html#msg63275

Well we would have proof had LE told the reporter OR if the reporter had done a better job of investigative reporting and talked to the witnesses that were with Ron that night.  So no I don't have proof other then I, as well as others, have known, for several weeks that the truck is broken down

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,139.msg63288.html#msg63288

I guess you can call the SA office and ask who gave their statements regarding the report. I am not sure if they are available yet but they will be under the sunshine law. But I can tell you that yes there were witnesses to Ron's whereabouts that night and to the fact that his truck does not run.

I am sure Spunky will dig and find out the truth.

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,139.msg63301.html#msg63301

But doesn't Gr Gma Sykes have a red truck ???? and wasn't that what they said that Ron was in when he was offering 50 dollars for the whereabouts of WBG???? ::MonkeyConfused::

I don't believe that that has ever been proven and I am not sure that anyone said that it was Ron in the red truck.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 13, 2009, 05:43:34 PM
What’s with this Misty??
August 13, 2009


In this interview with Art Harris, Misty talks about the night Haleigh disappeared.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/03/17/i-dont-need-a-lawyer-lawyers-are-for-guilty-people-misty-cummings-exclusive/

“Lawyers are for guilty people, I have nothing to hide,”

A couple of weeks ago I posted about a  **rumor**  I heard that Misty had retained counsel.  That information has been confirmed this week by at least two media outlets.

For example, Gainesville’s Sky97.3 discusses it in this article;

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4999874.php

The Sky has also learned that Misty Croslin-Cummings was asked again to come in for re-questioning in the child’s disappearance. Misty now has an attorney and both have declined the request for futher questioning.

 

Are we to assume that since Misty believes that innocent people don’t need lawyers she is guilty since she now has one?

http://justiceforhaleigh.wordpress.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 13, 2009, 06:00:11 PM
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The Sky has also learned that Misty Croslin-Cummings was asked again to come in for re-questioning in the child's disappearance. Misty now has an attorney and both have declined the request for futher quesioning.


Sorry but that is BS!  Misty was the last one (according to her) to see Haleigh alive.  Why isn't she cooperating?  This is exactly why people like me think she and Ron are guilty of harming Haleigh.  If you have nothing to hide you hide nothing.  You cooperate.

Misty does need to cooperate! if she is innocent, and has nothing to hide, then spill your guts to try to get this little girl found!!
I still am not convinced that Ron had anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance....jmo, Crystal is innocent in the disappearance too imo.....
Misty knows more, that I am sure of....,

stop the sideshows Cummings/Croslings,  and get out and do something constructive to find your missing child!!!  grrrrr...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: fatcatlurker on August 13, 2009, 07:32:44 PM
Thanks for the map and addresses Heart! 





 ::MonkeyShocked:: FCL~good to see you stranger.......missed ya ::MonkeyBike::

Hello  IM & All!  I stepped away for awhile than came back a lurkin!  This case in particular aggravates the heck out of me just like you guys.  I always try to be positive and see the good and it's been tough with this one. 

I'm sorry some of you have been going thru some hard knocks I've been praying for you!   

Looks like same old same old with these players.  I'm hanging in the Christine Sheddy pages she disappeared in my neck of the woods and I'd like to be there to assist if and when the sh!t hits the fan. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 13, 2009, 09:10:26 PM
Possible and more than not  related to the Sykes, Cummings

CHRISTINA  M  BELCHER
HAWTHORNE ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 8/13/2009 7:04:50 PM  - Booking#: 09-03333
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 3/8/1989 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
784.021-1a   AGGRAV ASSLT - WEAPON W DEADLY WEAPON WITHOUT INTENT TO KILL   F   T    $0.00    
843.01-   RESIST OFFICER WITH VIOLENCE   F   T    $1,504.00    
806.13-1b3   DAMAGE PROP-CRIM MISCH 1000 DOLS OR MORE   F   T    $1,004.00    
                $2,508.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=755834&IMG=51576


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 13, 2009, 09:22:51 PM
I can just imagine what all the other side shows are, can't wait to read that.

I don't even know what to say.Poor little Haleigh.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
I know, and poor little Jr  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I worry for him.   ::MonkeyCool::
I sure hope he is allowed to get somekind of therapy.
  Therapy is not in the works.  In that culture, therapy is not part of the language.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 13, 2009, 09:26:06 PM
(snipped)

The Sky has also learned that Misty Croslin-Cummings was asked again to come in for re-questioning in the child's disappearance. Misty now has an attorney and both have declined the request for futher quesioning.


Sorry but that is BS!  Misty was the last one (according to her) to see Haleigh alive.  Why isn't she cooperating?  This is exactly why people like me think she and Ron are guilty of harming Haleigh.  If you have nothing to hide you hide nothing.  You cooperate.

B I N G O  ::MonkeyMad::


 

Exactly.   ::MonkeyMad::
Misty could not give a consistent statement to LE.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 13, 2009, 09:37:11 PM
Possible and more than not  related to the Sykes, Cummings

CHRISTINA  M  BELCHER
HAWTHORNE ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 8/13/2009 7:04:50 PM  - Booking#: 09-03333
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 3/8/1989 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
784.021-1a   AGGRAV ASSLT - WEAPON W DEADLY WEAPON WITHOUT INTENT TO KILL   F   T    $0.00    
843.01-   RESIST OFFICER WITH VIOLENCE   F   T    $1,504.00    
806.13-1b3   DAMAGE PROP-CRIM MISCH 1000 DOLS OR MORE   F   T    $1,004.00    
                $2,508.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=755834&IMG=51576

Katrina Belcher Sykes missing HaLeigh
http://www.myspace.com/486859336


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: SuzieQ on August 13, 2009, 10:02:45 PM
Not the same person. The one on myspace has grandchildren. The one arrested is only 20yrs old. Even with that bunch, I don't think it is possible.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2009, 10:06:09 PM
Not the same person. The one on myspace has grandchildren. The one arrested is only 20yrs old. Even with that bunch, I don't think it is possible.
  ::MonkeyDevil::  Hopefully not


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 14, 2009, 12:05:44 AM
Not the same person. The one on myspace has grandchildren. The one arrested is only 20yrs old. Even with that bunch, I don't think it is possible.

I was/as not suggesting that they are the same person. Only that they are related.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: SuzieQ on August 14, 2009, 12:23:05 AM
Could very well be related. I wonder where last name Sykes came from.

The one on myspace gives her father as Bob Welfenberg, her husband as Eric Balcher and her children as Ranea, J.D., and Hope.

Christina M. Belcher could be her husband's brothers child.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 14, 2009, 12:28:13 AM
Possible and more than not  related to the Sykes, Cummings

CHRISTINA  M  BELCHER
HAWTHORNE ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 8/13/2009 7:04:50 PM  - Booking#: 09-03333
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 3/8/1989 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
784.021-1a   AGGRAV ASSLT - WEAPON W DEADLY WEAPON WITHOUT INTENT TO KILL   F   T    $0.00    
843.01-   RESIST OFFICER WITH VIOLENCE   F   T    $1,504.00    
806.13-1b3   DAMAGE PROP-CRIM MISCH 1000 DOLS OR MORE   F   T    $1,004.00    
                $2,508.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=755834&IMG=51576

Katrina Belcher Sykes missing HaLeigh
http://www.myspace.com/486859336

Christina Belcher's myspace (the one who was arrested).  Takes a while to load:

http://www.myspace.com/christina_humpherys


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 14, 2009, 12:44:01 AM
(snipped)

The Sky has also learned that Misty Croslin-Cummings was asked again to come in for re-questioning in the child's disappearance. Misty now has an attorney and both have declined the request for futher quesioning.


Sorry but that is BS!  Misty was the last one (according to her) to see Haleigh alive.  Why isn't she cooperating?  This is exactly why people like me think she and Ron are guilty of harming Haleigh.  If you have nothing to hide you hide nothing.  You cooperate.

B I N G O  ::MonkeyMad::


I agree, there's no way talking to LE could hurt her if she isnt guilty of anything, it doesnt matter how many times they ask you the same question, you should have only one answer, the true answer, and if she doesnt remember or she really was asleep then thats all she has to say, whats the big deal, who cares if they try to say she is lying, the only reason they would say that is if what she is saying doesnt add up........its just a load of crap....this baby is gone, she needs to be found, there is no excuse for not talking to LE, NONE...............and that is why I think she is guilty of something............how many that reads this post would say they wouldnt talk to LE anymore if a child was missing????    I know I would talk until they were satisfied with my answers and then I would come back anytime they asked me too.......gosh!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 14, 2009, 02:33:21 AM
Could very well be related. I wonder where last name Sykes came from.

The one on myspace gives her father as Bob Welfenberg, her husband as Eric Balcher and her children as Ranea, J.D., and Hope.

Christina M. Belcher could be her husband's brothers child.

HOPE  ANTWANETTE  SYKES
PALATKA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 6/10/2009 2:49:24 PM  - Booking#: 09-02372
Release Date & Time: 6/10/2009 3:25:00 PM
DOB: 3/24/1991 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
812.015-2   SHOPLIFTING PETIT FROM MERCHANT 2ND OR SUBSQ OFF   M   F    $504.00    6/10/2009 3:27:04 PM
810.08-2b   TRESPASSING OCCUPIED STRUCTURE OR CONVEYANCE   M   F    $504.00    6/10/2009 3:26:35 PM
                $1,008.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754593&IMG=53175

Instrument: 386951   Trans Code: MAR - MARRIAGE RECORD
Book: 823   File Date: 04-26-2000
Consideration: $ 0.00   Description: 2000 0210

From   To
BELCHER ERIC WADE   EX PARTE
SYKES KATRINA MARIE   

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/or_public/or_frame.php

Instrument: 415748   Trans Code: D - DEED
Book: 860   File Date: 06-22-2001
Consideration: $ 37,275.36   Description: LT 1 BLK 3 UN 2 CITRUS LAKES

From   To
SYKES ANNETTE   BELCHER ERIC
SYKES ANNETTE ATTY   BELCHER KATRINA
SYKES MYLES K   

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/or_public/or_frame.php



I believe that Katrina is Annette Sykes daughter, Teresa Neves' sister.

Although I find nothing in Putnam County Clerks office joining the Sykes and Bob/Robert Welfenberg together (and there is plenty of documentation there for Robert), poster GramaMonkey posted this for a John Welfenberg :  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5032.msg815538#msg815538

However from looking at Robert's files, and considering that Katrina refers to Bob as her father that does not fit imo.  Perhaps Robert just was never married to AS.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Wyks on August 14, 2009, 03:16:38 AM
(snipped)

The Sky has also learned that Misty Croslin-Cummings was asked again to come in for re-questioning in the child's disappearance. Misty now has an attorney and both have declined the request for futher quesioning.


Sorry but that is BS!  Misty was the last one (according to her) to see Haleigh alive.  Why isn't she cooperating?  This is exactly why people like me think she and Ron are guilty of harming Haleigh.  If you have nothing to hide you hide nothing.  You cooperate.

Exactly!!! 

Am astonished that it would be allowed for Misty/attorney to 'decline' the request for further questioning.  This isn't an invite to a tea party, for gosh sake!  Who DO they think they are??   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: seahorse on August 14, 2009, 05:16:08 AM
Could very well be related. I wonder where last name Sykes came from.

The one on myspace gives her father as Bob Welfenberg, her husband as Eric Balcher and her children as Ranea, J.D., and Hope.

Christina M. Belcher could be her husband's brothers child.

HOPE  ANTWANETTE  SYKES
PALATKA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 6/10/2009 2:49:24 PM  - Booking#: 09-02372
Release Date & Time: 6/10/2009 3:25:00 PM
DOB: 3/24/1991 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
812.015-2   SHOPLIFTING PETIT FROM MERCHANT 2ND OR SUBSQ OFF   M   F    $504.00    6/10/2009 3:27:04 PM
810.08-2b   TRESPASSING OCCUPIED STRUCTURE OR CONVEYANCE   M   F    $504.00    6/10/2009 3:26:35 PM
                $1,008.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754593&IMG=53175

Instrument: 386951   Trans Code: MAR - MARRIAGE RECORD
Book: 823   File Date: 04-26-2000
Consideration: $ 0.00   Description: 2000 0210

From   To
BELCHER ERIC WADE   EX PARTE
SYKES KATRINA MARIE   

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/or_public/or_frame.php

Instrument: 415748   Trans Code: D - DEED
Book: 860   File Date: 06-22-2001
Consideration: $ 37,275.36   Description: LT 1 BLK 3 UN 2 CITRUS LAKES

From   To
SYKES ANNETTE   BELCHER ERIC
SYKES ANNETTE ATTY   BELCHER KATRINA
SYKES MYLES K   

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/or_public/or_frame.php



I believe that Katrina is Annette Sykes daughter, Teresa Neves' sister.

Although I find nothing in Putnam County Clerks office joining the Sykes and Bob/Robert Welfenberg together (and there is plenty of documentation there for Robert), poster GramaMonkey posted this for a John Welfenberg :  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5032.msg815538#msg815538

However from looking at Robert's files, and considering that Katrina refers to Bob as her father that does not fit imo.  Perhaps Robert just was never married to AS.



Katrina Belcher's husband Obit on Ancestry.com.  A membership is needed to read the obit.


Title:  Eric's Obit
Attached To:  Eric Wade Belcher (1968-2004)


http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=ROOT_CATEGORY&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=ms_f-2&gsfn=KATRINA&gsln=BELCHER+&msbpn=2452&msbpn__ftp=Putnam%2C+Florida%2C+USA


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 14, 2009, 08:12:39 AM
(snipped)

The Sky has also learned that Misty Croslin-Cummings was asked again to come in for re-questioning in the child's disappearance. Misty now has an attorney and both have declined the request for futher quesioning.


Sorry but that is BS!  Misty was the last one (according to her) to see Haleigh alive.  Why isn't she cooperating?  This is exactly why people like me think she and Ron are guilty of harming Haleigh.  If you have nothing to hide you hide nothing.  You cooperate.

Exactly!!! 

Am astonished that it would be allowed for Misty/attorney to 'decline' the request for further questioning.  This isn't an invite to a tea party, for gosh sake!  Who DO they think they are??   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Hey there Wyks!  It is good to see you.  Hope all is well with you and yours.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 14, 2009, 09:40:39 AM
I can't see anybody not wanting to help LE unless you don't want to incriminate yourself/can't keep the script straight.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 14, 2009, 10:33:49 AM
http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/08/13/news/news02.txt                  Deputies photographed dead rat before disposal.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 14, 2009, 10:39:27 AM
Haleigh’s Dad Accusing Of Putting Rat In In-Law’s Mailbox

Friday, August 14, 2009 12:33:47 AM

SATSUMA -- The St. Augustine Record is reporting Ronald Cummings, the father of missing girl Haleigh Cummings, allegedly left a decapitated rat in his brother-in-law’s mailbox.

The accusation comes days after he was jailed for getting into a fist fight with his brother-in-law and father-in-law.
   
Hank Croslin, Jr. reported the incident to police and then signed a charge of retaliating on a witness against Cummings and an unnamed juvenile.

Cummings has denied any wrongdoing.

No charges have been filed at this time.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/CountyByCounty/CountyStories/2009/8/13/haleighs_dad_accusing_of_putting_rat_in_inlaws_mailbox.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 14, 2009, 11:02:24 AM
I can just imagine what all the other side shows are, can't wait to read that.

I believe this may be one of the sideshows mentioned:

http://docs.google.com/View?id=dr3djg9_6fvj93ndq

<snipped>

Recently, Murt posted this on his blog - which looks like yet another attempt at his "caretaker" ploy.  We suspect that this is being posted with regard to the Haleigh Cummings case, but have no solid proof of same.  It has been rumored that he is in contact with Haleigh's mother and the Satsuma Sheriff's Office regarding the case.  Again, this is nothing more (if it is yet another caretaker letter) than to ingratiate himself with this family and take advantage of them, as he did the Duckett's and tried to do with the Anthony family.


Tuesday, August 4, 2009
IT IS TIME
Y ou:
I have recently learned of your recent change of circumstances. I suggest that due this new circumstance that you own up for your actions while you have time. You need to do this in the short while the window of opportunity remains open.

Once the window closes, it will be too late for you to make amends for your actions and innocents will be made to suffer for your actions.

Do this one decent thing while you are able to. Time is short. Do the right thing. Your victims need closure.

MURT



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 14, 2009, 11:22:30 AM
Are there any monkeys participating in the balloon release on Monday? TIA


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 14, 2009, 11:24:45 AM
I can just imagine what all the other side shows are, can't wait to read that.

I believe this may be one of the sideshows mentioned:

http://docs.google.com/View?id=dr3djg9_6fvj93ndq

<snipped>

Recently, Murt posted this on his blog - which looks like yet another attempt at his "caretaker" ploy.  We suspect that this is being posted with regard to the Haleigh Cummings case, but have no solid proof of same.  It has been rumored that he is in contact with Haleigh's mother and the Satsuma Sheriff's Office regarding the case.  Again, this is nothing more (if it is yet another caretaker letter) than to ingratiate himself with this family and take advantage of them, as he did the Duckett's and tried to do with the Anthony family.


Tuesday, August 4, 2009
IT IS TIME
Y ou:
I have recently learned of your recent change of circumstances. I suggest that due this new circumstance that you own up for your actions while you have time. You need to do this in the short while the window of opportunity remains open.

Once the window closes, it will be too late for you to make amends for your actions and innocents will be made to suffer for your actions.

Do this one decent thing while you are able to. Time is short. Do the right thing. Your victims need closure.

MURT



Oh FTLOG, They need to lock that clown up. He has serious issues and anyone who associates with him needs their head examined as well.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on August 14, 2009, 11:34:48 AM
I can just imagine what all the other side shows are, can't wait to read that.

I believe this may be one of the sideshows mentioned:

http://docs.google.com/View?id=dr3djg9_6fvj93ndq

<snipped>

Recently, Murt posted this on his blog - which looks like yet another attempt at his "caretaker" ploy.  We suspect that this is being posted with regard to the Haleigh Cummings case, but have no solid proof of same.  It has been rumored that he is in contact with Haleigh's mother and the Satsuma Sheriff's Office regarding the case.  Again, this is nothing more (if it is yet another caretaker letter) than to ingratiate himself with this family and take advantage of them, as he did the Duckett's and tried to do with the Anthony family.


Tuesday, August 4, 2009
IT IS TIME
Y ou:
I have recently learned of your recent change of circumstances. I suggest that due this new circumstance that you own up for your actions while you have time. You need to do this in the short while the window of opportunity remains open.

Once the window closes, it will be too late for you to make amends for your actions and innocents will be made to suffer for your actions.

Do this one decent thing while you are able to. Time is short. Do the right thing. Your victims need closure.

MURT



Oh FTLOG, They need to lock that clown up. He has serious issues and anyone who associates with him needs their head examined as well.

I totally agree.  IF he has truly been in contact with the Satsuma Sheriff's Office his nonsense and delusions are taking time away that that could be utilized on finding Haleigh.  I do not post on this thread much but do read along.  Thought you may find it interesting.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 14, 2009, 11:39:54 AM
Is Murt a trouble maker or mentally ill, or a little of both? I thought he was done with inserting himself into cases  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 14, 2009, 11:40:44 AM
I can just imagine what all the other side shows are, can't wait to read that.

I believe this may be one of the sideshows mentioned:

http://docs.google.com/View?id=dr3djg9_6fvj93ndq

<snipped>

Recently, Murt posted this on his blog - which looks like yet another attempt at his "caretaker" ploy.  We suspect that this is being posted with regard to the Haleigh Cummings case, but have no solid proof of same.  It has been rumored that he is in contact with Haleigh's mother and the Satsuma Sheriff's Office regarding the case.  Again, this is nothing more (if it is yet another caretaker letter) than to ingratiate himself with this family and take advantage of them, as he did the Duckett's and tried to do with the Anthony family.


Tuesday, August 4, 2009
IT IS TIME
Y ou:
I have recently learned of your recent change of circumstances. I suggest that due this new circumstance that you own up for your actions while you have time. You need to do this in the short while the window of opportunity remains open.

Once the window closes, it will be too late for you to make amends for your actions and innocents will be made to suffer for your actions.

Do this one decent thing while you are able to. Time is short. Do the right thing. Your victims need closure.

MURT



Oh FTLOG, They need to lock that clown up. He has serious issues and anyone who associates with him needs their head examined as well.

I totally agree.  IF he has truly been in contact with the Satsuma Sheriff's Office his nonsense and delusions are taking time away that that could be utilized on finding Haleigh.  I do not post on this thread much but do read along.  Thought you may find it interesting.

Thank you, I do find it interesting and disturbing. He is one sick puppy.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 14, 2009, 11:45:37 AM
Is Murt a trouble maker or mentally ill, or a little of both? I thought he was done with inserting himself into cases  ::MonkeyEek::

I'd say a little of both it seems.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 14, 2009, 11:48:39 AM
Is Murt a trouble maker or mentally ill, or a little of both? I thought he was done with inserting himself into cases  ::MonkeyEek::

I'd say a little of both it seems.
I really thought he had went on with his life and had stopped interferring  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 14, 2009, 11:56:40 AM
Are there any monkeys participating in the balloon release on Monday? TIA

I'm not sure if that's what I'm doing as I think just posting the flyers here might be better......but, I did send school supplies through the Staples program. What about you?

O/T How is your son doing Searching?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 14, 2009, 11:58:52 AM
Is Murt a trouble maker or mentally ill, or a little of both? I thought he was done with inserting himself into cases  ::MonkeyEek::

I'd say a little of both it seems.

IA~

Also think Tim H. is whacko, have you ever read his bio about the maggots ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 14, 2009, 12:06:12 PM
Are there any monkeys participating in the balloon release on Monday? TIA

I'm not sure if that's what I'm doing as I think just posting the flyers here might be better......but, I did send school supplies through the Staples program. What about you?

O/T How is your son doing Searching?

Well, that is why I asked, I was going to ask if a monkey releasing a balloon could release one for me or something. We had Dads mass shortly after he passed and he was cremated, Monday will be his honors ceremony (military funeral) and his ashes will be entombed,had to get the arrangements done for it and that takes a while I guess..so I will not be available Monday. He is getting a full honors service , the 21 gun and taps and all so it may take a while.


OT:
He says he is feeling better, he has a new specialist, from what I was told, course he is grown and married so, I have no way of knowing for sure. Thanks for asking.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 14, 2009, 12:10:49 PM
Are there any monkeys participating in the balloon release on Monday? TIA

I'm not sure if that's what I'm doing as I think just posting the flyers here might be better......but, I did send school supplies through the Staples program. What about you?

O/T How is your son doing Searching?

Well, that is why I asked, I was going to ask if a monkey releasing a balloon could release one for me or something. We had Dads mass shortly after he passed and he was cremated, Monday will be his honors ceremony (military funeral) and his ashes will be entombed,had to get the arrangements done for it and that takes a while I guess..so I will not be available Monday. He is getting a full honors service , the 21 gun and taps and all so it may take a while.


OT:
He says he is feeling better, he has a new specialist, from what I was told, course he is grown and married so, I have no way of knowing for sure. Thanks for asking.

What a great honor for your father. I would release one for you, but I honestly think where I live it will go straight out over the Gulf and not inland due to the wind conditions and that's why I thought flyers would be better, I know for certain if I put them up they will be seen whereas the balloon over the Gulf may not be.

Your son wil remain in my prayers.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 14, 2009, 12:23:01 PM
Are there any monkeys participating in the balloon release on Monday? TIA

I'm not sure if that's what I'm doing as I think just posting the flyers here might be better......but, I did send school supplies through the Staples program. What about you?

O/T How is your son doing Searching?

Well, that is why I asked, I was going to ask if a monkey releasing a balloon could release one for me or something. We had Dads mass shortly after he passed and he was cremated, Monday will be his honors ceremony (military funeral) and his ashes will be entombed,had to get the arrangements done for it and that takes a while I guess..so I will not be available Monday. He is getting a full honors service , the 21 gun and taps and all so it may take a while.


OT:
He says he is feeling better, he has a new specialist, from what I was told, course he is grown and married so, I have no way of knowing for sure. Thanks for asking.

What a great honor for your father. I would release one for you, but I honestly think where I live it will go straight out over the Gulf and not inland due to the wind conditions and that's why I thought flyers would be better, I know for certain if I put them up they will be seen whereas the balloon over the Gulf may not be.

Your son wil remain in my prayers.

Thank you. I wanted to do something, but will be with the family for the service and after so will not be able to. Thank you for the prayers.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: SuzieQ on August 14, 2009, 12:39:14 PM
Eric W. Belcher

Eric Wade Belcher, 36, of Crescent City died unexpectedly Sunday, September 5, 2004 at his residence.

He was born in Ohio and had been a resident of Crescent City for the past five years, coming from Phoenix, Ariz. He served honorably in the U.S. Army. He owned and operated Trees on the Side, a tree trimming and removal service in Crescent City. He also worked as a long distance trucker. He was a member of the Dunns Creek Baptist Church in San Mateo where he served as an usher. He loved his family and loved serving his country. He enjoyed camping, fishing, shrimping and long walks on the beach. He enjoyed and studied the ways of Native Americans. He left the world to walk with the Lord and his son in heaven.

 
He was preceded in death by one son: Wade Belcher.

He is survived by his wife of five years: Katrina M. Belcher of Crescent City; his mother and stepfather: Peggy and Joe Tremont of Phoenix, Ariz.; his father: Bobby Belcher of Phoenix, Ariz.; one daughter: Jenna Marie Belcher of Phoenix, Ariz.; one stepson: J.D. Arbuckle Jr. of Palatka; two stepdaughters and spouse: Renea and Rick Whitmore of Jacksonville; and Hope Sykes of Crescent City; one sister: Lori Belcher of Phoenix, Ariz.

Memorial gifts may be sent to the Dunns Creek Baptist Church (for the benevolence fund), 686 Highway 17 South, San Mateo, FL 32187.

Friends may call from 6-8 p.m. Saturday, Sept. 11 at Masters Funeral Home of Palatka. In honor and celebration of Eric's life a video tribute will be shown.

Funeral services will be 3 p.m. Sunday, Sept. 12 at the funeral home with the Rev. Terry Wright and the Rev. Bill Wing officiating.

 
 
Burial will follow in the Palatka Memorial Gardens with military honors bestowed by the U.S. Army.

Masters Funeral Home of Palatka is in charge of arrangements.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 14, 2009, 12:45:11 PM
Eric W. Belcher






Thanks for the info SuzieQ!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: SuzieQ on August 14, 2009, 12:46:18 PM
Eric W. Belcher






Thanks for the info SuzieQ!

you are welcome


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 14, 2009, 12:49:01 PM
Are there any monkeys participating in the balloon release on Monday? TIA

Hi Searching!

I will not be participating in the balloon release on Monday. I will be tied up with other responsibilities, but will pray a special prayer for HaLeigh during that time.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 14, 2009, 12:51:47 PM
Searching  ::MonkeyAngel:: My thoughts and prayers are with you.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 14, 2009, 12:59:19 PM
Searching  ::MonkeyAngel:: My thoughts and prayers are with you.

Thank you NRCG.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 14, 2009, 01:19:52 PM
O/T

DA approves charges for man accused of attacking 2-year-old

Marcus Berry, 56, was taken into custody on complaints of kidnapping and lewd molestation charges.
 
By NICOLE MARSHALL World Staff Writer
Published: 8/13/2009  8:00 AM
Last Modified: 8/13/2009  4:47 PM

District Attorney Tim Harris has approved kidnapping and lewd molestation charges against a convicted sex offender in connection with the attack of a 2-year-old girl, who was taken from her front yard Wednesday night.

Marcus Berry, 56, is a registered sex offender and has previous convictions of child molestation in 1986 and 1993, according to the Oklahoma Department of Corrections.

Berry has been charged with violating the sex offender registration law two times since he was released from prison in 2006. One time he was acquitted at trial after saying that he was homeless and the second time he was convicted and sentenced to two years probation.

Officers were patrolling about 8:45 p.m. in the 3000 block of West Apache Street when they discovered a truck parked about 60 feet off the road in the middle of a field.

Thinking it was abandoned or stolen, officers investigated and reportedly found Berry with a 2-year-old girl inside the truck.

Berry, who was in the driver’s seat, had his pants completely open and down to his hips, while the girl was partially clothed and sitting on the bench seat next to Berry, according to police.

About five minutes after officers found the truck, a call about missing girl went out over the police radio, which fit the description of the 2-year-old at the scene, police said.

The girl had been taken from her front yard of her house in the 2400 block of North Yorktown Avenue about 7:30 p.m., Willingham said.

According to booking reports, Berry is in the Tulsa County jail on $1 million bond.

Oklahoma Department of Corrections records show Berry’s address is listed as Sand Springs and he was convicted of child molestation in 1986 and 1993. After serving 13 years on a 30 years sentence, he was released from prison in 2006.

Tulsa police then received information that later that year he was living in Tulsa, but had failed to register as a sex offender. He was charged in March 2007 and the case went to trial, but he was acquitted by a jury because he said that he was homeless.

“The jury felt, by the letter of the law that he possibly could not register with an address if he was homeless,” Willingham said.

The next year, Berry was charged with violating the sex offender law by residing within 2,000 feet of school and pleaded guilty in July 2008. He received a two-year suspended sentence and was ordered to register as a sex offender, court records show.

More information will be provided as it becomes available.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20090813_11_0_Tulsap532577


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 14, 2009, 04:02:52 PM
what a sicko this guy is ^^^^^who was molesting the 2 yr old!
hopefully his a$$ will remain in jail this time where the perv deserves to be!!! ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 14, 2009, 05:17:40 PM
 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


FINALLY..............

http://www.wesh.com/news/20402040/detail.html

NeJame, EquuSearch Join Search For Haleigh Cumming
Local Attorney Says Family Asked For Help
POSTED: 4:32 pm EDT August 14, 2009
UPDATED: 4:46 pm EDT August 14, 2009


ORLANDO, Fla. -- Prominent Orlando attorney Mark NeJame is getting involved in the search for Haleigh Cummings.



Mark NeJame
 
NeJame said the missing girl's family asked him to help, and he then asked missing child advocate Tim Miller of Texas EquuSearch to work with him.

NeJame and Miller also were involved in the search for Caylee Anthony, whose remains were found in December 2008 in Orange County. Caylee's mother, Casey Anthony, is charged with first-degree murder in connection with the death.

Haleigh Cummings, 5, was reported missing from her home in Satsuma in February, and no trace of the girl has been found. A $35,000 reward remains available for her return.

In a news release, NeJame said he plans a news conference on Monday with Miller and the family.


Previous Stories:
August 12, 2009: In-Laws Say Haleigh's Dad Put Dead Rat In Mailbox
August 6, 2009: Haleigh Cummings' Father Bonds Out Of Jail
July 16, 2009: Father Of Haleigh Cummings Cleared In DCF Inquiry
June 26, 2009: Investigators Search Haleigh's Family Property


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 14, 2009, 05:20:14 PM
Thanks IM that is good news.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 14, 2009, 05:45:10 PM
I've been looking but can't find it. Does anyone know what family asked for help, Ron's family or Crystal's family?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 14, 2009, 05:59:46 PM
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


FINALLY..............

http://www.wesh.com/news/20402040/detail.html

NeJame, EquuSearch Join Search For Haleigh Cumming
Local Attorney Says Family Asked For Help
POSTED: 4:32 pm EDT August 14, 2009
UPDATED: 4:46 pm EDT August 14, 2009


ORLANDO, Fla. -- Prominent Orlando attorney Mark NeJame is getting involved in the search for Haleigh Cummings.



Mark NeJame
 
NeJame said the missing girl's family asked him to help, and he then asked missing child advocate Tim Miller of Texas EquuSearch to work with him.

NeJame and Miller also were involved in the search for Caylee Anthony, whose remains were found in December 2008 in Orange County. Caylee's mother, Casey Anthony, is charged with first-degree murder in connection with the death.

Haleigh Cummings, 5, was reported missing from her home in Satsuma in February, and no trace of the girl has been found. A $35,000 reward remains available for her return.

In a news release, NeJame said he plans a news conference on Monday with Miller and the family.


Previous Stories:
August 12, 2009: In-Laws Say Haleigh's Dad Put Dead Rat In Mailbox
August 6, 2009: Haleigh Cummings' Father Bonds Out Of Jail
July 16, 2009: Father Of Haleigh Cummings Cleared In DCF Inquiry
June 26, 2009: Investigators Search Haleigh's Family Property


Hopefully HaLeigh will be found and no more side shows.

Exchange Student Says She Was Molested

Man Claims Hand Slipped During Driving Lesson

"The rules of gravity, you can't compete. The fact of the matter is you accelerate and you're going to move. He is being truthful," Iturrizaga's attorney Mark NeJame said.

http://www.wesh.com/news/20201239/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 14, 2009, 06:10:38 PM
More help in search for Haleigh

Updated: Friday, 14 Aug 2009, 5:04 PM EDT
Published : Friday, 14 Aug 2009, 4:39 PM EDT

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - High profile Orlando defense attorney Mark Nejame and Texas EquuSearch founder Tim Miller announced Friday they will be helping in the search for a missing Putnam County girl.

NeJame says he was contacted by the family of Haleigh Cummings to help them locate her and then reached out to Miller to also help the Cummings family search for missing five-year-old Haleigh Cumming.   Photos of Haleigh

Putnam County Sheriff Investigators say Haleigh was kidnapped early on February 10th.
The last person to see her was her father's girlfriend, now wife, Misty Croslin, who placed the 911 call alerting police to Haleigh's disappearance.

Though authorities still have no suspect in the case, police say the Cummings case is not yet cold. A gathering of various law enforcement agencies on June 5 determined that there are still leads to follow up on. If you have any information on Haleigh's disappearance, please call 911.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/081409_haleigh_search


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 14, 2009, 06:12:43 PM
More help in search for Haleigh

Updated: Friday, 14 Aug 2009, 5:04 PM EDT
Published : Friday, 14 Aug 2009, 4:39 PM EDT

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - High profile Orlando defense attorney Mark Nejame and Texas EquuSearch founder Tim Miller announced Friday they will be helping in the search for a missing Putnam County girl.

NeJame says he was contacted by the family of Haleigh Cummings to help them locate her and then reached out to Miller to also help the Cummings family search for missing five-year-old Haleigh Cumming.   Photos of Haleigh

Putnam County Sheriff Investigators say Haleigh was kidnapped early on February 10th.
The last person to see her was her father's girlfriend, now wife, Misty Croslin, who placed the 911 call alerting police to Haleigh's disappearance.

Though authorities still have no suspect in the case, police say the Cummings case is not yet cold. A gathering of various law enforcement agencies on June 5 determined that there are still leads to follow up on. If you have any information on Haleigh's disappearance, please call 911.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/081409_haleigh_search

Wonder when this search will take place?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 14, 2009, 06:17:55 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-nejame-equusearch-cummings-081409,0,2131721.story

(http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2009-02/45007539.jpg)

Search for missing Haleigh Cummings to get help from attorney Mark NeJame, EquuSearch
Amy L. Edwards

Sentinel Staff Writer

4:30 PM EDT, August 14, 2009

 High-profile attorney Mark NeJame announced today that he and the non-profit search group Texas EquuSearch will help the family of missing 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings.

NeJame, EquuSearch founder Tim Miller and the Cummings family will hold a press conference in Orlando on Monday to talk about their plans to proceed with the search. (my note - Monday is Haleigh's birthday)
Haleigh has been missing from her Satsuma home since February.

NeJame's office said he was contacted by Haleigh's relatives to help find the missing girl. The lawyer reached out to Miller, whose group helped search for Caylee Marie Anthony in Orange County.

NeJame once represented Caylee's grandparents.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 14, 2009, 06:18:32 PM
(http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae34/balloonsforhaleigh/Balloonsignredone.jpg)

http://www.myspace.com/balloonsforhaleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 14, 2009, 06:35:53 PM
Thanks for the updates.    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 14, 2009, 06:40:16 PM
More help in search for Haleigh

Updated: Friday, 14 Aug 2009, 5:04 PM EDT
Published : Friday, 14 Aug 2009, 4:39 PM EDT

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - High profile Orlando defense attorney Mark Nejame and Texas EquuSearch founder Tim Miller announced Friday they will be helping in the search for a missing Putnam County girl.

NeJame says he was contacted by the family of Haleigh Cummings to help them locate her and then reached out to Miller to also help the Cummings family search for missing five-year-old Haleigh Cumming.   Photos of Haleigh

Putnam County Sheriff Investigators say Haleigh was kidnapped early on February 10th.
The last person to see her was her father's girlfriend, now wife, Misty Croslin, who placed the 911 call alerting police to Haleigh's disappearance.

Though authorities still have no suspect in the case, police say the Cummings case is not yet cold. A gathering of various law enforcement agencies on June 5 determined that there are still leads to follow up on. If you have any information on Haleigh's disappearance, please call 911.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/081409_haleigh_search

Wonder when this search will take place?

Don't know Klaas, but I hope it will be soon and beneficial.  How was Nejame in representing the Caseys?  Is he on the up and up or just another publicity hound?

His face looked familiar to me, but that is about it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 14, 2009, 06:42:12 PM
More help in search for Haleigh

Updated: Friday, 14 Aug 2009, 5:04 PM EDT
Published : Friday, 14 Aug 2009, 4:39 PM EDT

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - High profile Orlando defense attorney Mark Nejame and Texas EquuSearch founder Tim Miller announced Friday they will be helping in the search for a missing Putnam County girl.

NeJame says he was contacted by the family of Haleigh Cummings to help them locate her and then reached out to Miller to also help the Cummings family search for missing five-year-old Haleigh Cumming.   Photos of Haleigh

Putnam County Sheriff Investigators say Haleigh was kidnapped early on February 10th.
The last person to see her was her father's girlfriend, now wife, Misty Croslin, who placed the 911 call alerting police to Haleigh's disappearance.

Though authorities still have no suspect in the case, police say the Cummings case is not yet cold. A gathering of various law enforcement agencies on June 5 determined that there are still leads to follow up on. If you have any information on Haleigh's disappearance, please call 911.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/081409_haleigh_search

Wonder when this search will take place?

Don't know Klaas, but I hope it will be soon and beneficial.  How was Nejame in representing the Caseys lol I mean the Anthonys?  Is he on the up and up or just another publicity hound?

His face looked familiar to me, but that is about it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 14, 2009, 06:48:17 PM
I've been looking but can't find it. Does anyone know what family asked for help, Ron's family or Crystal's family?

hangnon says:  It was Ron that contacted Mr. NeJames and asked for his help to find HaLeigh.

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,139.msg63945.html#msg63945


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 14, 2009, 06:49:31 PM
DON'T MISS DANA PRETZER TONIGHT!  AT 9PM ET!

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/pretzer081409.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 14, 2009, 07:01:14 PM
DON'T MISS DANA PRETZER TONIGHT!  AT 9PM ET!

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/pretzer081409.jpg)

Thanks Klaas!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 14, 2009, 07:10:28 PM
I've been looking but can't find it. Does anyone know what family asked for help, Ron's family or Crystal's family?

hangnon says:  It was Ron that contacted Mr. NeJames and asked for his help to find HaLeigh.

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,139.msg63945.html#msg63945

I'm just glad there will be another search and glad Ron asked for help. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 14, 2009, 07:33:42 PM
More help in search for Haleigh

Updated: Friday, 14 Aug 2009, 5:04 PM EDT
Published : Friday, 14 Aug 2009, 4:39 PM EDT

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - High profile Orlando defense attorney Mark Nejame and Texas EquuSearch founder Tim Miller announced Friday they will be helping in the search for a missing Putnam County girl.

NeJame says he was contacted by the family of Haleigh Cummings to help them locate her and then reached out to Miller to also help the Cummings family search for missing five-year-old Haleigh Cumming.   Photos of Haleigh

Putnam County Sheriff Investigators say Haleigh was kidnapped early on February 10th.
The last person to see her was her father's girlfriend, now wife, Misty Croslin, who placed the 911 call alerting police to Haleigh's disappearance.

Though authorities still have no suspect in the case, police say the Cummings case is not yet cold. A gathering of various law enforcement agencies on June 5 determined that there are still leads to follow up on. If you have any information on Haleigh's disappearance, please call 911.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/081409_haleigh_search

Wonder when this search will take place?
When, and I'm really wondering where they will be searching.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on August 14, 2009, 07:47:58 PM
My gear is packed and ready whenever the call goes out.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 14, 2009, 07:49:04 PM
I've been looking but can't find it. Does anyone know what family asked for help, Ron's family or Crystal's family?

hangnon says:  It was Ron that contacted Mr. NeJames and asked for his help to find HaLeigh.

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,139.msg63945.html#msg63945

I'm just glad there will be another search and glad Ron asked for help. 

Likewise here.

TES only searches for deceased bodies, right?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 14, 2009, 07:52:27 PM
My gear is packed and ready whenever the call goes out.

Hi dsntslp!  Are you with TES or just a volunteer?  Either way God bless you for you assistance in the future search.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 14, 2009, 07:55:32 PM
More help in search for Haleigh

Updated: Friday, 14 Aug 2009, 5:04 PM EDT
Published : Friday, 14 Aug 2009, 4:39 PM EDT

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - High profile Orlando defense attorney Mark Nejame and Texas EquuSearch founder Tim Miller announced Friday they will be helping in the search for a missing Putnam County girl.

NeJame says he was contacted by the family of Haleigh Cummings to help them locate her and then reached out to Miller to also help the Cummings family search for missing five-year-old Haleigh Cumming.   Photos of Haleigh

Putnam County Sheriff Investigators say Haleigh was kidnapped early on February 10th.
The last person to see her was her father's girlfriend, now wife, Misty Croslin, who placed the 911 call alerting police to Haleigh's disappearance.

Though authorities still have no suspect in the case, police say the Cummings case is not yet cold. A gathering of various law enforcement agencies on June 5 determined that there are still leads to follow up on. If you have any information on Haleigh's disappearance, please call 911.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/081409_haleigh_search

Wonder when this search will take place?
When, and I'm really wondering where they will be searching.

I have been wondering about last Friday's search in Welaka, which occured after the Croslin/Cummings fight. What supposed tip and who was the tipster?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 14, 2009, 08:01:33 PM
Good Evening Monkeys... ::MonkeyTongue::



File Date: 2009-08-06 Disposition Date: 
File Type: INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION - FD10
Judge: ELIZABETH A MORRIS   

Plaintiffs
CUMMINGS MISTY J  Defendants
CROSLIN JR HANK T 


Date Docket Description
2009-08-06 001.PETITION FOR INJUNCTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE 

2009-08-06 002.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE 

2009-08-06 003.TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION 08/19/09 AT 09:30 

2009-08-10 004.RTN OF SVC-SVD 08/06/09 - IND - TEMP 






Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on August 14, 2009, 08:04:39 PM
My gear is packed and ready whenever the call goes out.
I signed on as a member for the Caylee search.  I have searched for Haleigh too.  I am a new member with a lot to learn yet but I am definitely excited to learn we will be searching again.  I had back surgery not quite 3 mos ago and elbow surgery about 6 weeks ago but I think I am up to it again.  Good timing, very good timing.  If I find I can not actively search I will try and work at the command center, there is always something helpful to do.  I should have 3-5 other searchers I can bring with me, some members and some volunteers if they call for volunteers.

Hi dsntslp!  Are you with TES or just a volunteer?  Either way God bless you for you assistance in the future search.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 14, 2009, 08:05:10 PM
More help in search for Haleigh

Updated: Friday, 14 Aug 2009, 5:04 PM EDT
Published : Friday, 14 Aug 2009, 4:39 PM EDT

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - High profile Orlando defense attorney Mark Nejame and Texas EquuSearch founder Tim Miller announced Friday they will be helping in the search for a missing Putnam County girl.

NeJame says he was contacted by the family of Haleigh Cummings to help them locate her and then reached out to Miller to also help the Cummings family search for missing five-year-old Haleigh Cumming.   Photos of Haleigh

Putnam County Sheriff Investigators say Haleigh was kidnapped early on February 10th.
The last person to see her was her father's girlfriend, now wife, Misty Croslin, who placed the 911 call alerting police to Haleigh's disappearance.

Though authorities still have no suspect in the case, police say the Cummings case is not yet cold. A gathering of various law enforcement agencies on June 5 determined that there are still leads to follow up on. If you have any information on Haleigh's disappearance, please call 911.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/081409_haleigh_search

Wonder when this search will take place?
When, and I'm really wondering where they will be searching.

I have been wondering about last Friday's search in Welaka, which occured after the Croslin/Cummings fight. What supposed tip and who was the tipster?
Somehow I missed that there was a supposed tip.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 14, 2009, 08:05:56 PM
My gear is packed and ready whenever the call goes out.
I signed on as a member for the Caylee search.  I have searched for Haleigh too.  I am a new member with a lot to learn yet but I am definitely excited to learn we will be searching again.  I had back surgery not quite 3 mos ago and elbow surgery about 6 weeks ago but I think I am up to it again.  Good timing, very good timing.  If I find I can not actively search I will try and work at the command center, there is always something helpful to do.  I should have 3-5 other searchers I can bring with me, some members and some volunteers if they call for volunteers.

Hi dsntslp!  Are you with TES or just a volunteer?  Either way God bless you for you assistance in the future search.
That's great  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on August 14, 2009, 08:06:16 PM
OK, I see I messed up the quote thing, lol.  So sorry, I don't know how to fix it either, ugh.  I apologize.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 14, 2009, 08:08:25 PM
Update on Sapp... ::MonkeyTongue::

UCN: 542009CF001460XXAXMX
File Date: 2009-08-11 Judge: TERRY J LARUE   
Defense Atty: 

Defendant
SAPP, DONALD LEE 
Alias


Date # Docket Description
2009-08-11 1 ARREST REPORT - DET/ SHERYL DALEY 2006 

2009-08-11 1 BOOKING NUMBER: 09-03289 

2009-08-11 1 SEXUAL BATTERY 

2009-08-11 2 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 8-11-09 

2009-08-11 2 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY 

2009-08-11 2 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND - NO BOND 

2009-08-11 3 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY 

2009-08-11 4 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING 

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 14, 2009, 08:09:56 PM
Good Evening Monkeys... ::MonkeyTongue::



File Date: 2009-08-06 Disposition Date: 
File Type: INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION - FD10
Judge: ELIZABETH A MORRIS   

Plaintiffs
CUMMINGS MISTY J  Defendants
CROSLIN JR HANK T 


Date Docket Description
2009-08-06 001.PETITION FOR INJUNCTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE 

2009-08-06 002.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE 

2009-08-06 003.TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION 08/19/09 AT 09:30 

2009-08-10 004.RTN OF SVC-SVD 08/06/09 - IND - TEMP 






http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 14, 2009, 08:40:40 PM
OK, I see I messed up the quote thing, lol.  So sorry, I don't know how to fix it either, ugh.  I apologize.

That is fine.  We got the message, lol!

Great for you, and I hope all goes well for you in the search or how ever you render aid in the search for HaLeigh.

Both Caylee and HaLeigh are very precious and beautiful little girls. I use the word are, because they are in our hearts and on our minds.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 14, 2009, 08:51:51 PM
hangnon says:

Sierra the last I heard, which was at 6 today, the press conference is going to be at 10:00 am est on monday. If that should change I will post it as soon as I hear.  I do not think the timing of the conference will interfere with the time of the balloon release.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 14, 2009, 08:54:44 PM
DON'T MISS DANA PRETZER TONIGHT!  AT 9PM ET!

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/pretzer081409.jpg)

Show starts in about 7 minutes.  Click on the link below:

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/radio.m3u


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 14, 2009, 08:54:47 PM
hangnon says:

Sierra the last I heard, which was at 6 today, the press conference is going to be at 10:00 am est on monday. If that should change I will post it as soon as I hear.  I do not think the timing of the conference will interfere with the time of the balloon release.
Thanks, and thanks Jerseygirl  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: pink angel on August 14, 2009, 11:08:38 PM
I've been looking but can't find it. Does anyone know what family asked for help, Ron's family or Crystal's family?

hangnon says:  It was Ron that contacted Mr. NeJames and asked for his help to find HaLeigh.

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,139.msg63945.html#msg63945

I'm just glad there will be another search and glad Ron asked for help. 

Likewise here.

TES only searches for deceased bodies, right?

TES searches for missing people. They want to bring home the missing no matter what the circumstances.

I think it's great that there is a new search. I had my doubts about Mark in the beginning of the Caylee case but found greater respect for him after he resigned when they wanted to go on TV and lie about the new "sighting" of Caylee at the mall.

He also stepped up and offered to represent TES. Him and Tim clearly respect each other, even if the Anthony's did not. Mark also donated the 6 grand retainer paid to him by NLHF to represent the Anthony's to reward Roy Krunk. (the guy that located baby Caylee)

I am thrilled that there is a new search going to happen. I hope TES is able to find Haleigh and bring her home. I will be praying for them and little HaleighBug.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: pink angel on August 14, 2009, 11:09:40 PM
6 = 5


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: SuzieQ on August 14, 2009, 11:41:34 PM
Good Evening Monkeys... ::MonkeyTongue::



File Date: 2009-08-06 Disposition Date: 
File Type: INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION - FD10
Judge: ELIZABETH A MORRIS   

Plaintiffs
CUMMINGS MISTY J  Defendants
CROSLIN JR HANK T 


Date Docket Description
2009-08-06 001.PETITION FOR INJUNCTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE 

2009-08-06 002.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE 

2009-08-06 003.TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION 08/19/09 AT 09:30 

2009-08-10 004.RTN OF SVC-SVD 08/06/09 - IND - TEMP 






http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php


What does that mean. Misty and her brother are asking for a protection order?
Who is the defendent?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: SuzieQ on August 14, 2009, 11:45:21 PM
Never mind. I didn't see the word defendent there.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 14, 2009, 11:45:32 PM
I believe Misty is seeking protection from her brother (which is BS, IMO)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 14, 2009, 11:58:22 PM
I believe Misty is seeking protection from her brother (which is BS, IMO)
lol....I agree Klaas, its BS, you know good and well she isnt afraid of her brother, crazy stuff there.......lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 15, 2009, 08:48:27 AM
I've been looking but can't find it. Does anyone know what family asked for help, Ron's family or Crystal's family?

hangnon says:  It was Ron that contacted Mr. NeJames and asked for his help to find HaLeigh.

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,139.msg63945.html#msg63945

I'm just glad there will be another search and glad Ron asked for help. 

me too! this is really good news! hopefully they will find her or get some info on her whereabouts....locals may talk to Tim....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 15, 2009, 08:50:58 AM
I've been looking but can't find it. Does anyone know what family asked for help, Ron's family or Crystal's family?

hangnon says:  It was Ron that contacted Mr. NeJames and asked for his help to find HaLeigh.

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,139.msg63945.html#msg63945

I'm just glad there will be another search and glad Ron asked for help. 

Likewise here.

TES only searches for deceased bodies, right?

TES searches for missing people. They want to bring home the missing no matter what the circumstances.

I think it's great that there is a new search. I had my doubts about Mark in the beginning of the Caylee case but found greater respect for him after he resigned when they wanted to go on TV and lie about the new "sighting" of Caylee at the mall.

He also stepped up and offered to represent TES. Him and Tim clearly respect each other, even if the Anthony's did not. Mark also donated the 6 grand retainer paid to him by NLHF to represent the Anthony's to reward Roy Krunk. (the guy that located baby Caylee)

I am thrilled that there is a new search going to happen. I hope TES is able to find Haleigh and bring her home. I will be praying for them and little HaleighBug.

thanks for the info Pinky!


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Post by: cookie on August 15, 2009, 08:55:36 AM
(http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae34/balloonsforhaleigh/Balloonsignredone.jpg)

http://www.myspace.com/balloonsforhaleigh


I hope that the balloon launch and the collection of school supplies is a huge success for Haleigh's sake! she deserves every mention and every possible honor that may come her way...imo...I am pleased that both sides of the family are doing something to bring awareness  for their missing daughter...


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 15, 2009, 12:12:28 PM
Texas EquuSearch, Orlando Lawyer To Help Search for Haleigh

TJ Hart

 
More help in hopes of finding Haleigh Cummings might be on the way. High profile Orlando defense attorney Mark Nejame and Texas EquuSearch founder Tim Miller announced Friday they will be helping in the search for a missing Putnam County girl.
NeJame tells FOX 35 WOFL-TV he was contacted by the family of Haleigh Cummings to help them locate her and then reached out to Miller to also help the Cummings family search for missing five-year-old Haleigh Cumming.
Putnam County Sheriff Investigators say Haleigh was kidnapped early on February 10th. The last person to see her was her father's girlfriend, now wife, Misty Croslin, who placed the 911 call alerting police to Haleigh's disappearance.
Though authorities still have no suspect(s) in the case, police say the Cummings case is not yet cold. A gathering of various law enforcement agencies on June 5 determined that there are still leads to follow up on. If you have any information on Haleigh's disappearance, please call 911.
Earlier reports regarding the possibility of the return of Texas EquuSearch to the Haleigh case drew angry and disappointed responses from some family members who firmly believe that Haleigh is still alive.
(I wonder who the family members were that gave angry and disappointed responses, and if and why they have changed their minds?)


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Post by: Heart on August 15, 2009, 01:00:04 PM
Vigils, balloons set to mark Haleigh's birthday

By Kristin Chambers
Published: Saturday, August 15, 2009 1:13 AM EDT
Ribbons, candles and balloons will commemorate the sixth birthday of Haleigh Cummings beginning this weekend.

On Sunday, the First Baptist Church of Welaka will be holding a function at 3 p.m. to pray for the safe return of Haleigh, who has been missing since February.

"Everybody's invited," Annette Sykes, Haleigh's fraternal grandmother, said. "There will be prayers for Haleigh and candles to light her way home."

Red and purple ribbons will be passed out to show support for the 5-year-old, and a small balloon release will take place.

A balloon release on a larger scale will take place on Monday at 2:16 p.m. to signify Haleigh's time of birth, which was 2:16 a.m., Aug. 17.

Supporters are asked to release purple and red balloons at that time from wherever they are.

Purple and red are Haleigh's favorite colors.

The family requests pictures to be taken of the balloons at each release and uploaded to a Web site to display each participant's different location.

Organizers asked that fliers with Haleigh's picture and information be placed inside each balloon or taped to the outside in order to distribute her information wherever the balloon goes.

"The main thing is you don't know where the balloons will go, but wherever they land people will find Haleigh's picture on fliers," Melanie Wells, owner of Flowers by Melanie, said. "It's a very nice and thoughtful thing to do."

A woman from California placed an order for 100 balloons to be released by the flower shop, and mailed 100 fliers to be taped to the outside.

Wells said they will be released from outside the store at 2:16 p.m.

For environmental purposes, balloons will not have strings attached to them, and are made of biodegradable latex, she said.

Fliers with Haleigh's information can be found at www.myspace.com/balloonsforhaleigh.

Pictures of balloon releases may be e-mailed to balloonsforhaleigh@gmail.com

"We wish she would be returned home well and safe in time for her birthday," Sykes said.

Haleigh was reported missing from her Satsuma home at 3:27 a.m. on Feb 10, and no trace of her has been found despite massive searches.

Investigators are still following more than 4,000 leads.

kchambers@palatkadailynews.com

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/08/15/news/news01.txt


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Post by: Heart on August 15, 2009, 01:09:04 PM
Anthonys’ Ex-Attorney Joins Search For Haleigh

Saturday, August 15, 2009 10:20:17 AM

ORLANDO -- Mark NeJame, a high-profile Orlando attorney who once represented the grandparents of Caylee Anthony, said he is now joining the search for missing 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings.

NeJame said he and the nonprofit group Texas EquuSearch are joining forces to help the family of the missing Putnam County girl believed to have been kidnapped from her home in February.

The attorney said he was contacted by Haleigh’s relatives to help find her, and he reached out to EquuSearch to come back to Florida to help with the search.

NeJame and EquuSearch founder Tim Miller are planning to reveal more details about their plans at a news conference Monday.

NeJame represented George and Cindy Anthony during much of the search for their granddaughter. He resigned Nov. 20, 2008, because of what he called “difference of opinion.”

He has since represented Miller and EquuSearch in court proceedings in the case against Casey Anthony, who is charged with her daughter’s murder.

A $35,000 reward remains in place for a tip leading to Haleigh’s return.

If you have information, call Crime Stoppers

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/8/15/anthonys_exattorney_joins_search_for_haleigh.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 15, 2009, 01:19:52 PM
Thanks Heart  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 15, 2009, 05:28:02 PM
Thanks for the update,Heart.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: CuriousMonkey on August 15, 2009, 05:28:09 PM
The hope would be that Hayleigh is found and gets to go 'home' ( not the home she was in though IMO)

I have never had the 'right' feeling about this case or the 'father' Now- with burgulary, and dead rats - it shows an even darker under belly to a man- who is ' depserately hoping to find his lost child'? What is he doing commiting crimes and causing drama- when his focus should be on Hayleigh?

I don't know?? It all feels wrong. Prmiarily- the marriage to the 'young' girl. ( cant testify against your husband law exists still?) and criminal activity (dead rats?) ? Also with her Misty- asking her family to get her.... but changing her mind or direction? Sounds to me like a scared little girl w/ a manipulative , controlling boogey man keeping her hinged. 

He stikes me a a drug addict with perdofilic tendencies. jukies will sell theri own kids, for porn, sex and manipulate anyone and everyone around them to get thier way. There is something much deeper and darker here. And this guy seems like he is cracking up... not the way a man does when he loses a child he loves,,,, but in the way a nut job does when he loses control of his lies.

Nothing is ever what it seeems. humans do horrible things to eachother sometimes. And this guy strikes me as a weasely, creep.  ::MonkeyEek::

My wish is for this girl to be found and to be given to a better family so she can live a happy life. The support and prayers of many concernd citizens will help- if nothing else- at least maybe the TRUTH can be found - even if it s one no one wants ot hear.

I will chekc back to see new develpoments. Thankful to those who spend time trying ot help in here- if it was me or my child - I would want to know people cared and were trying ot find me or at least get justice for me and me find my peace.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 15, 2009, 06:21:47 PM
Thanks Heart  ::MonkeyCool::

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 15, 2009, 06:38:56 PM
Cummings v Sheffield.. Civil Docs....
 ::MonkeyTongue::

Agreed Order on Child Issues...


http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=9917966&key=YmU2OWJlYmYt&pass=NmUxNy00Mzgy





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 15, 2009, 06:49:15 PM
CuriousMonkey WELCOME  ::MonkeyCool::  I can't argue, I get weird feelings from Ron also, nothing in this is right.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 15, 2009, 06:49:42 PM
Cummings v Sheffield.. Civil Docs....
 ::MonkeyTongue::

Agreed Order on Child Issues...


http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=9917966&key=YmU2OWJlYmYt&pass=NmUxNy00Mzgy




Interesting, thanks  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 15, 2009, 06:58:25 PM
Haleigh Cummings' Family Gathers School Supplies in her Honor (Video Included)

Posted By: Corinne Hautala     Created: 8/15/2009 3:28:10 PM    Updated: 8/15/2009 6:30:06 PM

PALATKA, FL -- Haleigh Cummings will turn 6-years-old on Monday. Instead of presents for Haleigh, the family is giving a gift to other children.

Haleigh Cummings disappeared from her father's home in Satsuma 6-months ago.

Haleigh Cummings would be starting 1st grade this month.

Instead of getting supplies for Haleigh, her family is collecting supplies for other kids. "There's a lot of people who can't afford to buy school supplies for their children right now," said Haleigh's grandma, Marie Griffis.

That's why they started collecting items. All the donations will be given to Haleigh's School, Browning Pearce Elementary. It's a way to honor Haleigh on her birthday.

"Its undescribable. I can't tell you. Its awful not knowing where she's at," said Griffis.

Haleigh's family is also organizing a national balloon release Monday.

The family is asking for people across the country to print Haleigh's flyer from the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children website, put it in a balloon and release it.

Haleigh's father is also holding a local balloon release and candlelight service at First Baptist Church of Walaka tomorrow at 3:00 pm.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=143390&catid=3


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Post by: Heart on August 15, 2009, 07:19:49 PM
Haleigh Cummings – BNN Radio Sunday Aug/16

Posted on August 15th, 2009
by Simon Barrett in crime

We will be running our regular Sunday program at 3pm Central. Once again the focus will be on the Haleigh Cummings case. Our panel is still being formalized but will likely be the Barrett clan, TJ Hart or the Sky 97.3, William “Cobra” Staubs, And Denny Griffin. I have been in touch with Art Harris who is currently in California working on another case, and he is going to try and join us, time permitting.

The Haleigh Cummings case took a few bizarre twists this week, and I am sure the panel is going to have lots to talk about.

more...

http://www.bloggernews.net/121916


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 15, 2009, 07:49:37 PM
Video: Haleigh Cummings' Family Gathers School Supplies in her Honor

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?maven_playerId=articleplayer&maven_referralPlaylistId=playlist&maven_referralObject=1216109081


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 15, 2009, 08:03:37 PM

School drive held in honor of Haleigh

Reported by: Dee Registre

Last Update: 7:26 pm

(http://www.actionnewsjax.com/media/news/e/2/3/e23c248f-841f-4429-949f-b956033aedd9/Original.jpg)
Haleigh Cummings mother & father release legal teams

Haleigh Cummings mother & father release legal teams
PALATKA, Fla. -- It's a day that is supposed to be full of balloons and the laughter of family and friends, but Marie Griffis never thought that she would be celebrating her granddaughter's sixth birthday like this.

"It's the worst thing any family could have to go through. It's indescribable," said Griffis.

Purple balloons and pictures of the smiling little girl surround the group. "She had mounds of wavy hair. It was just long. And her brown eyes would just stand out."

But instead of toys for Haleigh, they have boxes of markers, pencils and notebooks. "It makes us feel good that we are able to do this in Haleigh's honor," said Griffis.

Now the same supplies that would have filled Haleigh's backpack on her first day of school, will go to others who would not have had it this school year. "Haleigh liked to share and that's what this was built on."

And it is Haleigh's sharing spirit the family hopes will help keep her name in the limelight. "As long as Haleigh is gone we will be looking. We will never, ever give up," said Griffis.

Anyone who is interested in donating school supplies to Browning Pearce Elementary can send them to:

Haleigh's Closet
12222 Mud Lake Road
Glen St. Mary, Florida 32040

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/School-drive-held-in-honor-of-Haleigh/mWzTc3CyrEaaqjC6Q3uFWw.cspx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 15, 2009, 10:16:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjzurBSYjAQ


Wanted everyone to see this tribute to Haleighs birthday............its beautiful.................God Bless HaLeigh..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Thunder Bunny on August 15, 2009, 10:39:23 PM
Are there any monkeys participating in the balloon release on Monday? TIA

I AM I AM I AM I AM!!!!   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 15, 2009, 10:44:00 PM
good for you Thunder Bunny! send one for me where you are at ! I am going to try to participate...may be traveling...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Thunder Bunny on August 15, 2009, 10:53:29 PM
I'll be driving back from Oklahoma so I plan on letting a few go here and there along the way.  :D  Good to see you ((Cookie))


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 15, 2009, 11:24:40 PM
Haleigh Cumming's Family Holds School Supply Drive
Donations Given To Missing Child's Elementary School

POSTED: Saturday, August 15, 2009
UPDATED: 10:26 pm EDT August 15, 2009

(http://www.news4jax.com/2009/0806/20306446_640X360.jpg)
Haleigh Cummings pink ribbon graphic

The family of missing 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings spent Saturday giving back to the community that supported them for the past 6 months. The family held a school supply drive in Satsuma. All donations collected will be given to children in need at Haleigh's elementary school.

The missing girl's father, Ronald Cummings was at the event posting signs for a vigil scheduled for Sunday.

Haleigh, who turns 6 on Monday, vanished from her Satsuma home in February. The case gained national attention and generated thousands of leads, but there is still no sign of Haleigh.

Anyone with information about Haleigh's disappearance is asked to call Crimestoppers at 888-2777-tips.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/20414759/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 15, 2009, 11:39:07 PM
Are there any monkeys participating in the balloon release on Monday? TIA

I AM I AM I AM I AM!!!!   ::MonkeyWink::

Thunder!!!! Wonderful to hear!!  I will be at Dads military honors service, 21 gun and all, and his entombment so will not be able to, was going to ask if a monkey participating can release an extra for me and I will figure a way to get the cost of balloon to that monkey. I will surely be with you in spirit though, I know this will sound crummy but my mind will be on Haleigh Monday through dads service. We had his mass already but had to wait until they had things together for the military honors ceremony. I will be thinking of you thunder and will say a silent prayer for Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 15, 2009, 11:41:01 PM
So glad the school supply drive went well for Crystal and her family, I hope that with the help of TES, that they can finally get some kind of closure, Im so glad they are coming back, I will be there then too willing to help in whatever way I can to find out what happened to HaLeigh...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 15, 2009, 11:53:14 PM
(http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac312/Touchdown2009/TeresaatHC.jpg)    (http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac312/Touchdown2009/MarieatHCevent.jpg)

(http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac312/Touchdown2009/RonatHCevent.jpg)    (http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac312/Touchdown2009/supplies.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 16, 2009, 01:18:29 AM
Happy Birthday HaLeigh!
From: floodofnoah

http://www.youtube.com/user/floodofnoah&#play/all/uploads-all/0/GIafTRddxgU


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: pinkbanana on August 16, 2009, 02:42:28 AM
Are there any monkeys participating in the balloon release on Monday? TIA

I AM I AM I AM I AM!!!!   ::MonkeyWink::

I am as well!  ::MonkeyAngel::
My 12 year old and I will be releasing ballons when I get home from work.  So sad. Poor baby!  ::MonkeyWaa::

pb


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2009, 10:04:11 AM
So glad the school supply drive went well for Crystal and her family, I hope that with the help of TES, that they can finally get some kind of closure, Im so glad they are coming back, I will be there then too willing to help in whatever way I can to find out what happened to HaLeigh...
Thanks, that is great.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2009, 10:04:38 AM
Are there any monkeys participating in the balloon release on Monday? TIA

I AM I AM I AM I AM!!!!   ::MonkeyWink::

I am as well!  ::MonkeyAngel::
My 12 year old and I will be releasing ballons when I get home from work.  So sad. Poor baby!  ::MonkeyWaa::

pb
  ::MonkeyAngel::  Thank-you


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2009, 10:50:01 AM
http://www.artharris.com/2009/08/16/haleigh-cummings-update-ron-and-ratgate/#more-2572         Art Harris does have a way with words  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Thunder Bunny on August 16, 2009, 11:48:46 AM
Are there any monkeys participating in the balloon release on Monday? TIA

I AM I AM I AM I AM!!!!   ::MonkeyWink::

Thunder!!!! Wonderful to hear!!  I will be at Dads military honors service, 21 gun and all, and his entombment so will not be able to, was going to ask if a monkey participating can release an extra for me and I will figure a way to get the cost of balloon to that monkey. I will surely be with you in spirit though, I know this will sound crummy but my mind will be on Haleigh Monday through dads service. We had his mass already but had to wait until they had things together for the military honors ceremony. I will be thinking of you thunder and will say a silent prayer for Haleigh.

Dear Searching,  I promise to release some for you.  Crazy Monkey! You're not going to try to send me money.  I know YOUR HEART is in it, that is the important thing. 

My Father also had a military service. :(  It went a lot faster than I thought it would, once they got the ball rolling. But no fear, Thunder is here and I will be thinking of you and saying prayers for you and HaLeigh as I release them.  I'll take pictures.  ((you))


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 16, 2009, 12:03:49 PM
Are there any monkeys participating in the balloon release on Monday? TIA

I AM I AM I AM I AM!!!!   ::MonkeyWink::

Thunder!!!! Wonderful to hear!!  I will be at Dads military honors service, 21 gun and all, and his entombment so will not be able to, was going to ask if a monkey participating can release an extra for me and I will figure a way to get the cost of balloon to that monkey. I will surely be with you in spirit though, I know this will sound crummy but my mind will be on Haleigh Monday through dads service. We had his mass already but had to wait until they had things together for the military honors ceremony. I will be thinking of you thunder and will say a silent prayer for Haleigh.

Dear Searching,  I promise to release some for you.  Crazy Monkey! You're not going to try to send me money.  I know YOUR HEART is in it, that is the important thing. 

My Father also had a military service. :(  It went a lot faster than I thought it would, once they got the ball rolling. But no fear, Thunder is here and I will be thinking of you and saying prayers for you and HaLeigh as I release them.  I'll take pictures.  ((you))

Thank you so much Thunder!! It means so much to me. I was feeling so bad not being able to participate, I feel better now. The family has already started arriving and I have had a full house since Friday. They all know now who Haleigh is and who the monkeys are and all aspects I could explain. They will print fliers in their hometowns now and post them, some are printing them to post on the drive back. I was shocked that most of them had not heard of our HaLeigh and more so I was heart broken.

OT, the full honors services go fast? We were told to expect to be there several hours, maybe for family to all arrive? I am quite nervous as I just got somewhat back on my feet and steady after his passing and now, I feel like I am being hit in the back of the knees to knock me back down, does that make sense? Just as his mass and all, my mind will be on HaLeigh as well so I think it will be a day of sorrow all the way around.

Hope we find her soon.

((you))  I needed the hug. Thank you, for everything :)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2009, 01:37:32 PM
* Update: I just off the phone with another guest for tomorrow. If this pans out, hold onto your hats. Trouble is brewing.*

Simon and Jan Barrett                   (Does anyone know who this guest might be? And why trouble is brewing?)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 16, 2009, 01:45:43 PM
* Update: I just off the phone with another guest for tomorrow. If this pans out, hold onto your hats. Trouble is brewing.*

Simon and Jan Barrett                   (Does anyone know who this guest might be? And why trouble is brewing?)

No, no rose, I do not know who the guest might be.  I guess we will have to play by ear at 3 p.m. eastern, lol.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2009, 01:51:15 PM
* Update: I just off the phone with another guest for tomorrow. If this pans out, hold onto your hats. Trouble is brewing.*

Simon and Jan Barrett                   (Does anyone know who this guest might be? And why trouble is brewing?)

No, no rose, I do not know who the guest might be.  I guess we will have to play by ear at 3 p.m. eastern, lol.
Thanks, I just noticed this, and wondered. So it will be noon my time, just curious about what trouble  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 16, 2009, 02:52:39 PM
TES Returning and Mark NeJame on board.

August 16, 2009

Filed under: Uncategorized — justiceforhaleigh @ 10:03 am

It was announced on Friday that high profile Orlando attorney Mark Nejame announced that he, Tim Miller of Texas Eqqusearch and the Cummings family will hold a news conference on Monday, August 17 concerning Haleigh Cummings.
The Orlando Sentinel (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-nejame-equusearch-cummings-081409,0,2131721.story) stated “NeJame, EquuSearch founder Tim Miller and the Cummings family will hold a press conference in Orlando on Monday to talk about their plans to proceed with the search.”

Word of NeJame’s involvement has been met with concerns and questions. We know that Mark NeJame represented TES in the Caylee Anthony case. We also know that he represented George and Cindy Anthony for a period of time while Caylee was missing while their daughter was the prime suspect. It was stated in that article that Haleigh’s family contacted him to help find Haleigh.

If TES does return to search, they will need the permission of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office to do so. Warrants will be needed to search private property.

Hopefully PCSO will direct the organization on areas that could use some attention; and hopefully one of those areas of interest will be PDM Bridge and the area around it as it appears that this area has not been searched extensively as of yet.
As to NeJame’s involvement, we don’t know if he is speaking in the capacity of counsel to TES or if he is representing a member of the Cummings family. Regardless, I believe his presence is a positive.

If he is representing TES he may be able to help them to execute extensive searches with the cooperation of law enforcement and the courts. If he is representing a member of the Cummings family, I believe he will demand that his client cooperate with the investigation and if possible, help to bring resolution to this case that has surpassed six months of searching for Haleigh.

When NeJame resigned as counsel for George and Cindy Anthony, he released this statement:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2792560/Statement-from-Mark-NeJame-Resigning-as-Cindy-and-George-Anthonys-Attorney

Unfortunately, I have made the decision that it is best not to continue my representation of George and Cindy Anthony.
George and Cindy have a belief that their beloved granddaughter, Caylee, is still alive. Tips and leads continue to come in. I believe strongly that they should have every right to maintain their hope and faith that one of these “sightings” will miraculously be the one that brings Caylee home to them. What parent or grandparent would surrender such hope?

Who is one person to tell another parent or grandparent when it is time for them to abandon their faith? When does a stranger have the right to judge another who has endured such a loss? The attacks made against them by some are deplorable.
Let them be to do what they feel they must to find their beloved granddaughter, Caylee. Knowing this case as well as probably anyone on earth, there is no doubt that they do not know where Caylee is. Allow them to walk their own path.

I only agreed to represent George and Cindy Anthony, so long as there were no restrictions placed on me whatsoever as to finding Caylee, regardless of where this might lead. Quite simply, this meant that I could do whatever I needed to find Caylee whether she was alive or not. It impressed me that George and Cindy, both believing that Caylee was still with us, had an overriding and primary concern in finding Caylee, even if the result was not as they would hope. The other condition I required was that I would have absolutely nothing to do with representing Casey or assisting in her legal defense.

Abundant efforts have been made towards finding Caylee. I have worked with so many involved in this matter towards the goal of finding this dear, missing child who has captured the hearts of so many. Some ignorant and judgmental members of the public though have made hateful and inaccurate accusations against me and others, when they had no idea whatsoever what was really going on. As my new, good friend, Tim Miller from Equusearch, tells me “everybody associated with this case gets body slammed.” However, like Tim, when you know in your heart that you’re doing the right thing, you just move forward knowing that right will ultimately win out. Some have falsely accused me and some others of being in this for the money. If they only knew how utterly wrong and misguided they are.
I had come to a personal opinion and theory for quite some time whether Caylee was still with us or not. However, my opinion was only one like any other … an opinion. The only person without an opinion though is Casey Anthony as only she knows the truth.

I believe that the singular person out of the 6 billion people in the world who holds the key to finding Caylee is her mother, Casey Anthony. Although I was quite successful in resolving a multitude of matters, I am unable to go further to help George and Cindy find Caylee in my current role. I can only provide my best advice and must respect any client’s prerogative to do what they deem is best, whether they choose to follow my guidance or not. However, there is little value or use I can provide to any client if they choose to act and comment at will.

As someone who has learned and knows the inner workings and details of the case and its various characters intimately, the rampant sensationalism and unfounded accusations must stop. Allow Cindy and George Anthony the respect and decency of dealing with their hope and efforts to find their missing and beloved Caylee as they need to. Allow those with differing opinions on finding and searching for Caylee, whether she is with us or not, to do their jobs without interruption. Finally, the judicial system is in play and justice will be best served by mindless meddlers staying out of something they know little of. There are many wonderful people involved in efforts to find Caylee and there are, unfortunately, many who are exploiting this child. Sadly, most in the public are clueless about who is doing what and what is really going on. The negative actions of some are only counterproductive and hurtful to the cause of those many good people who are doing so much to do something positive with this most sad and tragic situation.
This statement speaks to NeJame’s desire in the Anthony case to respect his clients while drawing clear boundaries with regard to who and how he will offer legal advice. It appears that when the paths of attorney and client were divergent, NeJame chose to cease representation. That tells me that NeJame may have been unwilling to support the Anthony’s belief that their daughter was innocent and their refusal to cooperate with the investigation.

I sincerely hope that NeJame is offering advice to the Cummings family that will compel them to cooperate fully with the investigation into Haleigh’s disappearance. Given the statements of late from representatives of the PCSO as well as from Haleigh’s father, we know that Ron and Misty are not cooperating. Perhaps Mr. Nejame can convince them that they need to. And hopefully, that cooperation will lead investigators to Haleigh Cummings and the prosecution of the persons responsible for her disappearance.

http://justiceforhaleigh.wordpress.com/


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2009, 03:11:24 PM
Thanks Heart  ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: cece on August 16, 2009, 03:15:55 PM
Hi Monkeys.  I want to take the time to thank all of you for being so diligent in bringing forth your research and all the links, videos and photos. 

I don't always get the opportunity to post here, but do my best to keep up.  I get so discouraged with all the side shows that have gone on with this case that I have to step away from time to time (as I'm sure many others probably do too).

I'm thrilled that Tim is returning for another search for Haleigh & hope LE will give him their full support.  Haleigh deserves it.   ::MonkeyAngel::


A Poem for Haleigh
posted on youtube by Kellyemerald:

http://www.youtube.com/v/yARTemyHedA&hl=en&fs=1


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Post by: Heart on August 16, 2009, 04:06:38 PM
* Update: I just off the phone with another guest for tomorrow. If this pans out, hold onto your hats. Trouble is brewing.*

Simon and Jan Barrett                   (Does anyone know who this guest might be? And why trouble is brewing?)

Leonard Padilla is on the show.


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Post by: Heart on August 16, 2009, 04:11:05 PM
hangnon says:  Tim Miller has joined Ron and his family at the vigil for HaLeigh this afternoon in Welaka.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post50611


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2009, 04:52:00 PM
Thanks Heart and cece  ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: klaasend on August 16, 2009, 04:59:17 PM
hangnon says:  Tim Miller has joined Ron and his family at the vigil for HaLeigh this afternoon in Welaka.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post50611

I haven't seen anything official that TES is joining RON.  He may very well be searching on the request of Ron just as he could only search for Caylee on the request of the Anthonys or LE.   This of course has nothing to do with Ron and Misty's innocence in the matter and everything to do with finding a missing Haleigh.  Which is as it should be.


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Post by: cookie on August 16, 2009, 05:00:25 PM
thanks for all the updates dear monkeys!
I arrived home today so I will be sending up some balloons for Haleigh tomorrow...from myself and  all monkeys who are unable to participate...
Searching...what an honor for your father!

I am glad that the school supplies program for Haleigh was successful and I am just as hopeful and glad that the balloon launch will be a success as well...It makes me glad that the families are doing some useful things for the search for Haleigh...seems that they are trying to work together and that makes me happy...


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Post by: higherhopes on August 16, 2009, 05:12:44 PM
http://www.artharris.com/2009/08/16/haleigh-cummings-update-ron-and-ratgate/#more-2572         Art Harris does have a way with words  ::MonkeyCool::
Thanks Rose, yes he does, and the way he tells it gives one the real understanding just how crazy the situation really is.....What is Ron thinking, how can he even act like this with his beautiful daughter missing, makes no snse to me...


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Post by: higherhopes on August 16, 2009, 05:14:27 PM
hangnon says:  Tim Miller has joined Ron and his family at the vigil for HaLeigh this afternoon in Welaka.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post50611

I haven't seen anything official that TES is joining RON.  He may very well be searching on the request of Ron just as he could only search for Caylee on the request of the Anthonys or LE.   This of course has nothing to do with Ron and Misty's innocence in the matter and everything to do with finding a missing Haleigh.  Which is as it should be.
I agree, Haleigh is the innocent one of all these players...


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2009, 05:15:19 PM
From the radio show, Cobra says it is critical information, T.J. says he cannot say who asked for the search.  (Wonder why it would be critical info, and why they can't say who asked for the search?)


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Post by: klaasend on August 16, 2009, 05:23:50 PM
From the radio show, Cobra says it is critical information, T.J. says he cannot say who asked for the search.  (Wonder why it would be critical info, and why they can't say who asked for the search?)

Maybe they don't know who asked for the search. 


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2009, 05:28:02 PM
From the radio show, Cobra says it is critical information, T.J. says he cannot say who asked for the search.  (Wonder why it would be critical info, and why they can't say who asked for the search?)

Maybe they don't know who asked for the search. 
That could be, we may learn tomorrow.


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Post by: higherhopes on August 16, 2009, 05:41:47 PM
From the radio show, Cobra says it is critical information, T.J. says he cannot say who asked for the search.  (Wonder why it would be critical info, and why they can't say who asked for the search?)

Maybe they don't know who asked for the search. 
That could be, we may learn tomorrow.
I hope so, but it really doesnt matter to me who asked, Im just so happy Tim is coming back, and I hope after the meeting tomorrow things can get underway s quickly as possible, Haleigh needs to be brought home as soon as possible....


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2009, 05:55:27 PM
From the radio show, Cobra says it is critical information, T.J. says he cannot say who asked for the search.  (Wonder why it would be critical info, and why they can't say who asked for the search?)

Maybe they don't know who asked for the search. 
That could be, we may learn tomorrow.
I hope so, but it really doesnt matter to me who asked, Im just so happy Tim is coming back, and I hope after the meeting tomorrow things can get underway s quickly as possible, Haleigh needs to be brought home as soon as possible....
I'm very curious where the searches will take place.


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Post by: higherhopes on August 16, 2009, 05:59:57 PM
From the radio show, Cobra says it is critical information, T.J. says he cannot say who asked for the search.  (Wonder why it would be critical info, and why they can't say who asked for the search?)

Maybe they don't know who asked for the search. 
That could be, we may learn tomorrow.
I hope so, but it really doesnt matter to me who asked, Im just so happy Tim is coming back, and I hope after the meeting tomorrow things can get underway s quickly as possible, Haleigh needs to be brought home as soon as possible....
I'm very curious where the searches will take place.
maybe we will hear that also, Im hoping the area around PDM will m be on the list, cant wait to find out.


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Post by: Heart on August 16, 2009, 06:34:23 PM
From the radio show, Cobra says it is critical information, T.J. says he cannot say who asked for the search.  (Wonder why it would be critical info, and why they can't say who asked for the search?)

From listening to the show and from reading AH's article, they are all out of the loop and it is apparant.  TJ could not say because he does not have any more info than the rest of us.  The articles that were in the 3 to 4 on-line news sites. IMHO.


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Post by: Heart on August 16, 2009, 06:35:15 PM
From the radio show, Cobra says it is critical information, T.J. says he cannot say who asked for the search.  (Wonder why it would be critical info, and why they can't say who asked for the search?)

From listening to the show and from reading AH's article, they are all out of the loop and it is apparent.  TJ could not say because he does not have any more info than the rest of us.  The articles that were in the 3 to 4 on-line news sites. IMHO.


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Post by: klaasend on August 16, 2009, 06:37:27 PM
Heart - you're probably right.


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Post by: Heart on August 16, 2009, 07:38:17 PM
Haleigh Cummings' Family To Celebrate Her Birthday

Girl, 5, Disappeared From Putman Co. 6 Months Ago

POSTED: 7:08 pm EDT August 16, 2009

SATSUMA, Fla.-- There's still no sign of Haleigh Cummings, the Putnam County girl who disappeared last February.

Monday will be a bittersweet day for her family.

It has been six months since the Satsuma girl disappeared, and Monday is her 6th birthday.

Cummings' paternal grandmother, Teresa Neves, said she has no idea what happened to her granddaughter.

"If I had any kind of clue, then I could go out there and look for her myself," she said. "But you don't know where to start, you know?"

WESH 2's Michelle Meredith will talk about the unusual way her father's family plans to honor the missing girl's birthday Monday at 11 p.m.

http://www.wesh.com/news/20422695/detail.html


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Post by: cookie on August 16, 2009, 07:44:06 PM
Klaas...I like your signature by ...Judy Garland...


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Post by: strayze on August 16, 2009, 07:52:13 PM
Previously, when Tim Miller planned a search for Haleigh, the local LE told him not to come, that the local LE was searching.


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Post by: klaasend on August 16, 2009, 08:03:53 PM
Cookie - thanks  ::MonkeyCool::

Strayze - that's correct so what has changed now?


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Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 16, 2009, 08:05:12 PM
From the radio show, Cobra says it is critical information, T.J. says he cannot say who asked for the search.  (Wonder why it would be critical info, and why they can't say who asked for the search?)

Maybe they don't know who asked for the search. 
That could be, we may learn tomorrow.
I hope so, but it really doesnt matter to me who asked, Im just so happy Tim is coming back, and I hope after the meeting tomorrow things can get underway s quickly as possible, Haleigh needs to be brought home as soon as possible....
I'm very curious where the searches will take place.
maybe we will hear that also, Im hoping the area around PDM will m be on the list, cant wait to find out.

I know I read or listen that Ruby Kanger wanted some searches done but not 100% sure.. It will evenually come out who requested the search. I glad Tim Miller is coming back if it is true. He's a great man with a heart and has a record for finding the missing.

God Bless Haleigh... ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 16, 2009, 08:21:14 PM
Cookie - thanks  ::MonkeyCool::

Strayze - that's correct so what has changed now?
Could there be an important tip maybe?


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Post by: Heart on August 16, 2009, 09:12:24 PM
Haleigh Cummings – Radio Wrap Up – Aug/16

Posted on August 16th, 2009
by Simon Barrett in crime


Another interesting 90 minutes. I suspect that some of today’s program will make it to the MSM in the morning! How fitting that it will also be the 6th birthday of Haleigh Cummings. Haleigh, if you get to read this, enjoy the cake, and I can guarantee that BNN will buy you many more!

Our panel included TJ Hart, William Cobra Staubs, Pickles, and of course the Barrett clan.

We had a special guest this week, Leonard Padilla. While he has not been an active part of the search for Haleigh Cummings, he was a very active part of the search for Caylee Anthony. I do know that he has been watching the case unfold. He is also very well informed.

It was announced on Friday that Mark NeJame and Tim Miller had decided to become involved with the search for Haleigh. I have some reservations, my wife and I take a different viewpoint. Are we right? I do not know. Our mission is to inform, not frustrate.

The question in my mind, and it has been there for many months, is Tim Miller all he says he is?

I had heard some scuttlebutt, but it is easy to make enemies in this brave new world of the internet! I have made many, the question remains, is a $5 or $10 contribution going to help?

It was not till the end of the program that Tim Miller entered the story, but it is worth listening to. This might just want to make you rethink your next contribution! This might not make BNN popular, but one has to report it as it is told.

Do I believe Leonard and Bill? Well let me say this, I have never known either of them to lie to me. They have no reason, likewise I have no reason to lie to them.

I know we lost our live listeners at a vital point, the good news is that the entire show can be listened to here.

Simon and Jan Barrett

http://www.bloggernews.net/121920


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Post by: higherhopes on August 16, 2009, 09:27:14 PM
I dont believe I will be listening to Simons show, Tim Millers past speaks for itself and I refuse to listen to any one that is gonna talk down about him, so Simon can just continue to talk to Cobra and his little clan, undoubtly they are all on the same wave link..


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Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 16, 2009, 10:06:19 PM
I dont believe I will be listening to Simons show, Tim Millers past speaks for itself and I refuse to listen to any one that is gonna talk down about him, so Simon can just continue to talk to Cobra and his little clan, undoubtly they are all on the same wave link..

ITA...


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Post by: Heart on August 16, 2009, 10:22:23 PM
2Spunkyposted:

(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff202/2Spunky/hbday.jpg)

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff202/2Spunky/hbday.jpg


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Post by: higherhopes on August 16, 2009, 10:31:19 PM
I dont believe I will be listening to Simons show, Tim Millers past speaks for itself and I refuse to listen to any one that is gonna talk down about him, so Simon can just continue to talk to Cobra and his little clan, undoubtly they are all on the same wave link..

ITA...
Its really sad isnt it,no matter who tris to help in this case, someone has something to say about them, and Lord knows if anyone can help find Haleigh ...Tim can............I truly believe that..


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Post by: Brandi on August 17, 2009, 02:07:42 AM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing95.png)



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Post by: Idgie on August 17, 2009, 06:58:21 AM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing95.png)



Brandi it is so good to see you back on Haleigh's thread.


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Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 08:06:29 AM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing95.png)



Thank you Brandi!

It is really good to see you.

And I know that HaLeigh thanks you as well!


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Post by: monkeymiser on August 17, 2009, 08:07:46 AM
 ::MonkeyAngel::

Happy 6th Birthday HaleighBug.

I hope today is day we get some kind of break in the case

 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 08:14:25 AM
Putnam County Sheriff's Office
General Offense/Incident Report


Incident # 6939

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/9970528/RatGate


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Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 08:17:49 AM
Haleigh Cummings turns 6-years-old

Updated: Monday, 17 Aug 2009, 5:44 AM EDT
Published : Monday, 17 Aug 2009, 5:37 AM EDT

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - Today Haleigh Cummings turns 6-years-old. The little girl from Putnam County has been missing for more than 6 months now. In honor of her birthday, her father plans to release red and purple balloons with fliers including Haleigh's information attached.

Photos of Haleigh

Meanwhile, some members of her family will be in Orlando to hold a news conference with their new attorney Mark Nejame and Tim Miller the founder of Equusearch.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/081709_Haleigh_Cummings


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Post by: cookie on August 17, 2009, 08:28:18 AM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing95.png)



Brandi it is so good to see you back on Haleigh's thread.

ditto! also, thank you for the lovely photo of Haleigh


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Post by: Leroy on August 17, 2009, 08:36:59 AM
I dont believe I will be listening to Simons show, Tim Millers past speaks for itself and I refuse to listen to any one that is gonna talk down about him, so Simon can just continue to talk to Cobra and his little clan, undoubtly they are all on the same wave link..

I agree!


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Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 08:44:05 AM
Balloon Release for Haleigh Cummings

Posted By: Jonathan Feldmann     Created: 8/16/2009 11:19:52 PM    Updated: 8/17/2009 12:41:13 AM


WELAKA, FL -- Relatives of Haleigh Cummings held a balloon release in hopes of keeping the search for the missing girl alive.

About 100 family and friends released purple and red balloons, Haliegh's favorite colors, into the air to honor the 5-year-old. Monday is her 6th birthday.

Haleigh's family is asking for people across the country to print Haleigh's flyer from the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children web site, put it in a balloon and release it Monday for a national balloon release. They ask that the balloons be released at 2:16 p.m. which is the time she was born.

Haleigh's grandmother Teresa Neves told First Coast News she is hopeful the little girl will be returned to the family by her birthday on Monday. She even made a plea, asking anyone who has Haleigh to just "drop her off" somewhere safe on Monday.

Tim Miller, the founder of Texas Equusearch, a team that looks for missing children by horseback, said Haleigh's family reached out to him to start a new search for Haleigh. However, Miller could not release the date and location of the expected search.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=143445&provider=top


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Post by: GramaMonkey on August 17, 2009, 08:51:28 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY  -  HALEIGH ANN-MARIE CUMMINGS

(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee131/fruitglaze_shah/43.gif)

                                   (http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc202/sallyjtazz2/ki.gif)

Praying for your safe return  ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 08:55:12 AM
(http://www.firstcoastnews.com/genthumb.ashx?e=3&h=240&w=320&i=/assetpool/images/090816112250_081609_HALEIGH%20BALLOONS1.jpg)   (http://www.firstcoastnews.com/genthumb.ashx?e=3&h=240&w=320&i=/assetpool/images/090816112307_081609_HALEIGH%20BALLOONS2.jpg)   (http://www.firstcoastnews.com/genthumb.ashx?e=3&h=240&w=320&i=/assetpool/images/090816112225_081609_HALEIGH%20BALLOONS.jpg)


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Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 09:01:30 AM
(http://www.news4jax.com/2009/0817/20423797_640X360.jpg)

Service For Haleigh's 6th Birthday

Balloons With Flyers Inside Released

POSTED: Sunday, August 16, 2009
UPDATED: 11:44 pm EDT August 16, 2009
Haleigh Cummings pink ribbon graphic
WELAKA, Fla. -- The family of missing a missing Putnam County girl came together Sunday for a prayer service the day before Haleigh Cummings will turn six.

Haleigh's family held a service at the First Baptist Church in Welaka on Sunday. Afterward, they released red and purple balloons -- each one stuffed with a flyer of Haleigh's information.

Haleigh's family said they hope someone will see the flyer and be able to help police find her.

Haleigh's family also organized a birthday celebration for her on Monday afternoon.

They will gather at River Park in Putnam County and again release red and purple balloons with flyers attached at 2:16 p.m. -- exactly 12 hours after Haleigh was born.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/20424465/detail.html#


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Post by: cookie on August 17, 2009, 09:01:45 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY  -  HALEIGH ANN-MARIE CUMMINGS

(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee131/fruitglaze_shah/43.gif)

                                   (http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc202/sallyjtazz2/ki.gif)

Praying for your safe return  ::MonkeyAngel::

lovely grama....I am praying for her safe return as well...:)


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 09:36:46 AM
Happy Birthday Haleigh  ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: cece on August 17, 2009, 09:37:03 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/skjnGZT22rE&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0xcc2550&color2=0xe87a9f&border=1

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/MONKEY/HOLIDAYS/FOOD/balloons.gif)


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Post by: islandmonkey on August 17, 2009, 09:46:19 AM
 GOd Bless Haleigh on your birthday, and God willing TM and TES will bring you home........ ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: cookie on August 17, 2009, 09:49:59 AM
cece..thank you for the video...lovely and sad all at the same time!
this is a much loved child and she needs to be found..
Happy birthday again Haleigh.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 09:53:42 AM
Putnam County Sheriff's Office
General Offense/Incident Report


Incident # 6939

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/9970528/RatGate
Thanks  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 17, 2009, 09:56:49 AM
cece..thank you for the video...lovely and sad all at the same time!
this is a much loved child and she needs to be found..
Happy birthday again Haleigh.....

You're welcome cookie.  I hope with Tim & Mark's help, Haleigh will be found.  It's been too long.   ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: cece on August 17, 2009, 10:04:00 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-nejame-081709,0,1910972.story

Local high-profile attorney Mark NeJame and Tim Miller, founder of search group Texas EquuSearch, will hold a press conference this morning to announce their plans to help the family of missing 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings.

NeJame, EquuSearch founder Tim Miller and the Cummings family will hold a press conference at NeJame's Orlando office at 10 a.m. to talk about their plans to proceed with the search

(snipped)


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Post by: cece on August 17, 2009, 10:07:03 AM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=143453&catid=3

Haleigh Cummings' father's family has asked Mark NeJame to help them.

Teresa Neves, Haleigh's paternal grandmother, said they asked NeJame for help because he has worked with Tim Miller of Texas Equusearch and because "we hear he's very good."

Neves told First Coast News they hope NeJame will help them get Haleigh's name back out in the media.

(snipped)


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Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 10:13:55 AM
(http://media.bigoo.ws/content/57/287657/Happy-Birthday-Rainbow-Balloons.gif)
HaLeigh Ann Marie Cummings


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 11:11:24 AM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 17, 2009, 12:00:09 PM
Balloons released for Haleigh...

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?maven_playerId=articleplayer&maven_referralPlaylistId=playlist&maven_referralObject=1216778830


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 12:01:07 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-update-081709,0,6353651.story             No searches for 6 weeks to 2 months, because of vegetation being to thick right now.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 17, 2009, 12:08:02 PM
This picture and more are on crankycrankerson http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Haleigh%20Cummings/


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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 17, 2009, 12:11:40 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 12:15:10 PM
Thanks Jerseygirl, what's with the tee shirts that say possible abduction?


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Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 17, 2009, 12:26:56 PM
Thanks Jerseygirl, what's with the tee shirts that say possible abduction?

I dont why the tee-shirts say possible abduction... ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Monkey with Class on August 17, 2009, 12:32:40 PM
Thanks Jerseygirl, what's with the tee shirts that say possible abduction?

I dont why the tee-shirts say possible abduction... ::MonkeyEek::

That is extremely odd for the shirts to be printed this way!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 17, 2009, 12:34:09 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-update-081709,0,6353651.story

Haleigh Cummings' grandma: 'We just want somebody to look for her'
On Haleigh Cummings' sixth birthday, Texas EquuSearch founder said he will search for the missing girl once again.

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On the day that Haleigh Cummings' family should joyously be celebrating her sixth birthday, her relatives instead sat teary eyed inside an Orlando law firm and made another plea for the public to help find her.

Haleigh vanished from her Putnam County home in February after her father's girlfriend put her to bed.

Today, her family plans to release balloons containing her missing person flier. Haleigh's grandma, Teresa Neves, said she hopes someone will see the flier, spot Haleigh, and call law enforcement.

"Haleigh is a sweetheart," said Neves, who joined high-profile lawyer Mark NeJame and Texas EquuSearch founder Tim Miller at a mid-morning press conference.

"We just want somebody to look for her," she said. They want Haleigh to come home.

And NeJame and Miller want to help.

NeJame called the press conference to announce that EquuSearch will help search for Haleigh once more. They won't search immediately though, because the vegetation is too thick.

Miller said it may be another six weeks to two months before his volunteers will scour the area once more for Haleigh."My heart's breaking for them," said Miller. "This is one day that they did not want to go through without Haleigh here, and that's her birthday."

Neves teared up during Miller's comments.

Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, said little during the press conference. He said the past few months have been "extremely hard."

NeJame said not a lot of public attention has been paid to Haleigh's disappearance. When Neves reached out to the lawyer  to help garner publicity for the case, NeJame said, "My heart went out to her."

"Her grief was apparent," he said.

NeJame said all leads are being explored, and some areas need to be searched better.
Miller said the search may also be expanded.

"We want to do everything we can do to make sure that they do not go through the next birthday without having Haleigh back home safely, or without having the remains and having that funeral," he said.






Looks like Neves calledd Mejame, and thank God for that, but this only confirms for me sadly that they are looking for remains since they are waiting 6 weeks to 2 months to begin the search. I can't imagine the heartbreak of TES coming in to search and how that would renew your faith only to find out that it will be another 6 weeks to 2 months before they start. I understand as the vegatation IS thick and we are smack dab in the middle of TS's and Hurricanes again ::MonkeyWaa::

Poor baby, God be with her and her family ........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 12:36:11 PM
I agree IM, very sad. I just am trying to understand those tee shirts  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 12:41:00 PM
Haleigh Cummings' grandma: 'We just want somebody to look for her'

On Haleigh Cummings' sixth birthday, Texas EquuSearch founder said he will search for the missing girl once again.

11:27 a.m. EDT, August 17, 2009

On the day that Haleigh Cummings' family should joyously be celebrating her sixth birthday, her relatives instead sat teary eyed inside an Orlando law firm and made another plea for the public to help find her.

Haleigh vanished from her Putnam County home in February after her father's girlfriend put her to bed.

Today, her family plans to release balloons containing her missing person flier. Haleigh's grandma, Teresa Neves, said she hopes someone will see the flier, spot Haleigh, and call law enforcement.

"Haleigh is a sweetheart," said Neves, who joined high-profile lawyer Mark NeJame and Texas EquuSearch founder Tim Miller at a mid-morning press conference.

"We just want somebody to look for her," she said. They want Haleigh to come home.

And NeJame and Miller want to help.

NeJame called the press conference to announce that EquuSearch will help search for Haleigh once more. They won't search immediately though, because the vegetation is too thick.

Miller said it may be another six weeks to two months before his volunteers will scour the area once more for Haleigh.

"My heart's breaking for them," said Miller. "This is one day that they did not want to go through without Haleigh here, and that's her birthday."

Neves teared up during Miller's comments.

Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, said little during the press conference. He said the past few months have been "extremely hard."

NeJame said not a lot of public attention has been paid to Haleigh's disappearance. When Neves reached out to the lawyer to help garner publicity for the case, NeJame said, "My heart went out to her."

"Her grief was apparent," he said.

NeJame said all leads are being explored, and some areas need to be searched better.

Miller said the search may also be expanded.

"We want to do everything we can do to make sure that they do not go through the next birthday without having Haleigh back home safely, or without having the remains and having that funeral," he said.

Amy L. Edwards can be reached at aledwards@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5735.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-update-081709,0,6353651.story


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 12:49:14 PM
Video: HaLeigh Cummings Birthday (Tim Miller speaks)
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?maven_playerId=articleplayer&maven_referralPlaylistId=playlist&maven_referralObject=1216778830


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 01:00:39 PM
Texas EquuSearch to search for missing Fla. girl


ORLANDO, Fla. -- A Texas-based search group will conduct another search for a missing north Florida girl.

Haleigh Cummings disappeared from her father's mobile home in Satsuma six months ago.

Orlando attorney Mark NeJame and Tim Miller, Texas EquuSearch founder, announced Monday that they would team up in another search of the girl. She turned 6 on Monday.

Miller says the search will take place in four to six weeks. He says he believes weather and vegetation conditions will be more conducive to finding the girl.

Miller says about 50 EquuSearch members and volunteers will conduct the search.

The group searched for the girl previously and has also searched for Caylee Anthony, whose body was found in December. The group wasn't involved in finding Anthony's body.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/florida/AP/story/1189742.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 01:02:34 PM
Thanks Heart  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 17, 2009, 01:35:03 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/08/haleigh-cummings-family-stations-call-attention-to-6th-birthday.html

Haleigh Cummings: Family, stations call attention to 6th birthday
posted by halboedeker on Aug 17, 2009 12:25:58 PM

Haleigh Cummings' 6th birthday is today, and local television stations in noon newscasts highlighted the family's pleas to help find the missing girl.

WKMG-Channel 6 played part of a news conference attended by Haleigh's father, grandmother and Orlando attorney Mark NeJame. "We don't care about what the family is going through, independent of Haleigh," NeJame said. "We don't care what accusations have been made. We don't give a damn. We have a missing child, and that's all that we care about."

The little girl disappeared from her Putnam County home nearly six months ago. Grandmother Teresa Neves said the girl has birthmarks on her back and left cheek, and asked people to look for her. "If you see her, please contact law enforcement," Neves said.

WFTV-Channel 9 highlighted Neves' asking NeJame and Texas EquuSearch to help in the search for the girl. "They don't have a definite start date," anchor Barbara West said. "They're waiting for ground conditions to improve. They want closure before Haleigh's 7th birthday."

In the WFTV report, Neves said, "Haleigh is a sweetheart. She is a beautiful little girl."

There will be a balloon release in Haleigh's honor this afternoon, and each balloon will carry a flier about the search for her.

WESH-Channel 2 said its 11 p.m. news will feature a Michelle Meredith interview with the Cummings family.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 17, 2009, 01:50:51 PM
http://www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/53424222.html

A Texas-based group will conduct another search for a north Florida girl, Haleigh Cummings, who disappeared six months ago from her father's mobile home in Satsuma, Fla.

Orlando attorney Mark NeJame and Texas EquuSearch founder Tim Miller announced Monday that they would team up in another search of the girl who was last seen in February.

Monday is her sixth birthday.

Miller said the search will take place in four to six weeks.

He said he believes weather and vegetation conditions will be more conducive to finding the girl.

Miller says about 50 members and volunteers with suburban Houston-based EquuSearch will conduct the search.

The group searched for the girl previously and has also searched for Caylee Anthony, whose body was found in December.

The group wasn't involved in finding Anthony's body.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 17, 2009, 01:54:47 PM
I agree IM, very sad. I just am trying to understand those tee shirts  ::MonkeyConfused::

I can't see it because  I'm not on the laptop.....what link is it on and I'll try to find it as it does sound oddly worded


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 17, 2009, 02:10:42 PM
I agree IM, very sad. I just am trying to understand those tee shirts  ::MonkeyConfused::

I can't see it because  I'm not on the laptop.....what link is it on and I'll try to find it as it does sound oddly worded


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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 17, 2009, 02:12:05 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 17, 2009, 02:14:25 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 17, 2009, 02:26:21 PM
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ORLANDO -- Monday marks the sixth birthday of Haleigh Cummings, the Putnam County girl who has not been seen since February.

Details of a new search for the girl are expected Monday as Haleigh’s family remembers her birthday.

Attorney and child advocate Mark NeJame held a news conference in Orlando Monday, saying a lot of the media attention has been centered around Haleigh’s father’s struggles with the law.

NeJame said he wants to return the attention to the search for the little girl.

Along with Haleigh’s father, Ronald, and grandmother, Teresa, Texas EquuSearch founder Tim Miller was present at the conference at NeJame’s request.

Miller said EquuSearch spent the better part of the weekend scouring an area of Putnam County, and developing plans.

“We want to do everything that we can do to make sure they don’t go through the next birthday without having Haleigh home safely, or without having her remains and having that funeral, so they can have a place to go visit her,” Miller said.

“My firm’s role will be limited, although we will be here for anything that needs to be done,” NeJame said. “We are not coming here at the request or as an agent of law enforcement. We are simply helping an grieving family.”

Miller’s search team was in Central Florida in June to search for missing Ocoee woman Tracy Ocasio, but did not turn up anything.

Haleigh is believed to have been kidnapped from her Satsuma home in the middle of the night in February. She has not been seen or heard from since.

A $35,000 reward remains in place for a tip leading to Haleigh’s return. If you have information, call Crime Stoppers at (888) 277-TIPS (8477).


http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/8/17/new_details_on_haleigh_search_on_her_6th_birthday.html


 ::MonkeyTongue:: Looks like they are going to be searching Putnam County.........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 02:29:51 PM
Thanks wondered what area they were all going to search.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 17, 2009, 02:44:15 PM
Thanks wondered what area they were all going to search.
  I'm just trilled they are going to search, yet worried about so many other things like length of time, bad weathers etc., just today I put up flyers during lunch inside and outside, but the wind gust here are tremendous and I worry about the outside flyers ::MonkeyWaa::

We are getting ready to be smack in the middle of hurricane season and this brings back so many memories of the Caylee Anthony case and how frustrating that was. Just bring her home Tim  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 02:50:18 PM
Thanks wondered what area they were all going to search.
  I'm just trilled they are going to search, yet worried about so many other things like length of time, bad weathers etc., just today I put up flyers during lunch inside and outside, but the wind gust here are tremendous and I worry about the outside flyers ::MonkeyWaa::

We are getting ready to be smack in the middle of hurricane season and this brings back so many memories of the Caylee Anthony case and how frustrating that was. Just bring her home Tim  ::MonkeyAngel::
Island, I hope Tim and the searchers can bring her home too, I also spent much of the mornin putting up flyers, although I dont agree with the balloon release, I still wanted to do something and so I drove and drove and put up flyers anywhere I was allowed, God Bless Haleigh..............


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 17, 2009, 02:57:24 PM
Thanks wondered what area they were all going to search.
  I'm just trilled they are going to search, yet worried about so many other things like length of time, bad weathers etc., just today I put up flyers during lunch inside and outside, but the wind gust here are tremendous and I worry about the outside flyers ::MonkeyWaa::

We are getting ready to be smack in the middle of hurricane season and this brings back so many memories of the Caylee Anthony case and how frustrating that was. Just bring her home Tim  ::MonkeyAngel::
Island, I hope Tim and the searchers can bring her home too, I also spent much of the mornin putting up flyers, although I dont agree with the balloon release, I still wanted to do something and so I drove and drove and put up flyers anywhere I was allowed, God Bless Haleigh..............

Thanks HH- I couldn't do the balloon thing either for 2 reason 1) it would have been out over the Gulf in 3 seconds flat and 2) They are super picky about balloons, or almost anything on the beach that can hurt the turtles, dolphins etc, so I just thought flyers would have to do for me


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 03:02:06 PM
Thanks wondered what area they were all going to search.
  I'm just trilled they are going to search, yet worried about so many other things like length of time, bad weathers etc., just today I put up flyers during lunch inside and outside, but the wind gust here are tremendous and I worry about the outside flyers ::MonkeyWaa::

We are getting ready to be smack in the middle of hurricane season and this brings back so many memories of the Caylee Anthony case and how frustrating that was. Just bring her home Tim  ::MonkeyAngel::
Island, I hope Tim and the searchers can bring her home too, I also spent much of the mornin putting up flyers, although I dont agree with the balloon release, I still wanted to do something and so I drove and drove and put up flyers anywhere I was allowed, God Bless Haleigh..............

Thanks HH- I couldn't do the balloon thing either for 2 reason 1) it would have been out over the Gulf in 3 seconds flat and 2) They are super picky about balloons, or almost anything on the beach that can hurt the turtles, dolphins etc, so I just thought flyers would have to do for me
Yea, I didnt think it would work in your area, but I think the same around this area also, too much woods and trees, but I figurede putting up the flyers would help even more...I went over towards the Georgia area, and hit all the stores I had never been before..........oh, and you have mail..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 03:03:51 PM
Thanks wondered what area they were all going to search.
Hey Rose, I think they should include the area around PDM bridge and maybe towards back roads leading all of town,,,,


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 17, 2009, 03:12:53 PM
Thanks wondered what area they were all going to search.
  I'm just trilled they are going to search, yet worried about so many other things like length of time, bad weathers etc., just today I put up flyers during lunch inside and outside, but the wind gust here are tremendous and I worry about the outside flyers ::MonkeyWaa::

We are getting ready to be smack in the middle of hurricane season and this brings back so many memories of the Caylee Anthony case and how frustrating that was. Just bring her home Tim  ::MonkeyAngel::
Island, I hope Tim and the searchers can bring her home too, I also spent much of the mornin putting up flyers, although I dont agree with the balloon release, I still wanted to do something and so I drove and drove and put up flyers anywhere I was allowed, God Bless Haleigh..............

Thanks HH- I couldn't do the balloon thing either for 2 reason 1) it would have been out over the Gulf in 3 seconds flat and 2) They are super picky about balloons, or almost anything on the beach that can hurt the turtles, dolphins etc, so I just thought flyers would have to do for me
Yea, I didnt think it would work in your area, but I think the same around this area also, too much woods and trees, but I figurede putting up the flyers would help even more...I went over towards the Georgia area, and hit all the stores I had never been before..........oh, and you have mail..

Got it.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 03:14:41 PM
Thanks wondered what area they were all going to search.
Hey Rose, I think they should include the area around PDM bridge and maybe towards back roads leading all of town,,,,
I do also. And thanks to you and IM for putting up flyers.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 03:21:51 PM
Thanks wondered what area they were all going to search.
Hey Rose, I think they should include the area around PDM bridge and maybe towards back roads leading all of town,,,,
I do also. And thanks to you and IM for putting up flyers.
YW, Ive put up so many posters by now that Im running out of places within driving distance for a day from here, I have done this with the hope that someone will see them and say something but I dont feel like the posters are gonna bring Haleigh home, Im sorry I just dont....I feel like she is still somewhere right there close and its gonna take this new search or someone talking to find her, thats just how I feel, I dont think she ever left that area...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 03:31:32 PM
Thanks wondered what area they were all going to search.
Hey Rose, I think they should include the area around PDM bridge and maybe towards back roads leading all of town,,,,
I do also. And thanks to you and IM for putting up flyers.
YW, Ive put up so many posters by now that Im running out of places within driving distance for a day from here, I have done this with the hope that someone will see them and say something but I dont feel like the posters are gonna bring Haleigh home, Im sorry I just dont....I feel like she is still somewhere right there close and its gonna take this new search or someone talking to find her, thats just how I feel, I dont think she ever left that area...
I don't believe she ever left the area either. It's a shame they have to wait to search, but I understand how the weather in Florida is, following Caylee's case. I know there is bad weather so anyone in the path please take care, sure sounds like a lot of rain.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 03:40:59 PM
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5022713.php             Interesting press release


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on August 17, 2009, 03:44:04 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 17, 2009, 03:50:02 PM
Thanks wondered what area they were all going to search.
  I'm just trilled they are going to search, yet worried about so many other things like length of time, bad weathers etc., just today I put up flyers during lunch inside and outside, but the wind gust here are tremendous and I worry about the outside flyers ::MonkeyWaa::

We are getting ready to be smack in the middle of hurricane season and this brings back so many memories of the Caylee Anthony case and how frustrating that was. Just bring her home Tim  ::MonkeyAngel::
Island, I hope Tim and the searchers can bring her home too, I also spent much of the mornin putting up flyers, although I dont agree with the balloon release, I still wanted to do something and so I drove and drove and put up flyers anywhere I was allowed, God Bless Haleigh..............

Thanks HH- I couldn't do the balloon thing either for 2 reason 1) it would have been out over the Gulf in 3 seconds flat and 2) They are super picky about balloons, or almost anything on the beach that can hurt the turtles, dolphins etc, so I just thought flyers would have to do for me

I didnt do the balloon launch instead I went to our church up the street to pray.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 03:55:25 PM
Reports

 
August 17th, 2009
 
 
Today marks Haleigh Cummings’ sixth birthday, and a little over six months into the investigation of her disappearance. Sheriff Hardy’s interest in the public’s desire to bring Haleigh home, have led him to release the following update on the investigation.
 
Investigators from the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and investigators from agencies throughout Florida have invested thousands of man-hours into the investigation thus far.
 
Here are some of the facts:
 
We have received in excess of 4,000 leads, all of which have been followed up.
We have conducted 138 formal interviews and several hundred informal interviews with potential witnesses. DNA samples were collected from many of those interviewed and compared to evidence collected in the case.
FDLE processed the crime scene. Many items of potential evidentiary value were collected and sent to FDLE’s crime lab for analysis (ie. for fingerprints and DNA). All of evidence has been examined and/or processed, but none of it has identified any suspect or additional leads as to who the suspect(s) may be.
We have searched thousands of acres, including all property south of Highway 17 near the Cummings residence.
We have had numerous underwater recovery and search teams search all of the water near the area of the disappearance.
Aviation assets have conducted several airborne searches.
K9 assets have searched the area on several occasions.
Volunteer civilian searchers on foot and horseback searched the wooded areas near the residence.
 
At this point, the evidence and investigatory effort has minimized the likelihood that Haleigh’s disappearance is the work of a stranger. There is no specific individual whom investigators have identified as a person of interest. The biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, are not considered to be suspects in the case. Investigators believe that Misty Croslin-Cummings continues to hold important answers in the case. She has failed to provide any sort of detailed accounting of the hours during the late evening and early morning of Haleigh’s disappearance. Furthermore, physical evidence at the scene contradicts Misty’s sketchy account of her evening activities. Any citizen with direct knowledge of Misty’s activities during that evening or into the early morning is encouraged to report that information to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office.
 
Sheriff Hardy realizes the importance of keeping the public involved in this case, and appreciates all of the leads that have been provided. Every lead that is provided is acted on by investigators. Sheriff Hardy cautions that because there are many who claim to be valid media outlets, that citizens should be careful not to fall into the trap of believing, or by accident spreading, the untrue and unreliable claims and assumptions of many bloggers who claim to be knowledgeable in the case. He also urges anyone that is assisting, or who wants to assist, to be cautious to stay within the bounds of their authority as they pursue their activities.
 
Sheriff Hardy wants to assure the public, but mainly Haleigh’s family, that we will continue to aggressively pursue this case and that we welcome the assistance of all Law Enforcement agencies or any other expert, including air, water, and ground searchers,  that can assist in bringing Haleigh home.
 
 
Lieutenant Johnny Greenwood
Putnam County Sheriff’s Office
130 Orie Griffin Blvd.
Palatka, Florida 32177
(386) 326.2782
jgreenwood@putnamsheriff.org


This is very important, Im glad they have finally at least said this much.....I also believe, and always have that Misty  knows something....I just do and always will.........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 03:57:00 PM
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5022713.php             Interesting press release
Oh, and I forgot to say, Thanks Rose for that link......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 04:05:59 PM
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5022713.php             Interesting press release
Oh, and I forgot to say, Thanks Rose for that link......
At this point, the evidence and investigatory effort has minimized the likelihood that Haleigh’s disappearance is the work of a stranger.  (I wonder what they are thinking about this, that Misty perhaps did something to Haleigh or she may know who did? And if that is the case, I don't get the part of the marriage and the welcoming to the Cummings family  ::MonkeyConfused:: None of this makes any sense to me.)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 17, 2009, 04:10:10 PM
Seems pretty clear to me that LE feels exactly like I do.  MISTY holds the key:

At this point, the evidence and investigatory effort has minimized the likelihood that Haleigh’s disappearance is the work of a stranger. There is no specific individual whom investigators have identified as a person of interest. The biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, are not considered to be suspects in the case. Investigators believe that Misty Croslin-Cummings continues to hold important answers in the case. She has failed to provide any sort of detailed accounting of the hours during the late evening and early morning of Haleigh’s disappearance. Furthermore, physical evidence at the scene contradicts Misty’s sketchy account of her evening activities. Any citizen with direct knowledge of Misty’s activities during that evening or into the early morning is encouraged to report that information to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 04:11:37 PM
Happy Birthday Haleigh !!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 04:13:07 PM
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5022713.php             Interesting press release
Oh, and I forgot to say, Thanks Rose for that link......
At this point, the evidence and investigatory effort has minimized the likelihood that Haleigh’s disappearance is the work of a stranger.  (I wonder what they are thinking about this, that Misty perhaps did something to Haleigh or she may know who did? And if that is the case, I don't get the part of the marriage and the welcoming to the Cummings family  ::MonkeyConfused:: None of this makes any sense to me.)
me either, its al really strange, that or Ronald really believes this girl, we can see her for what she is, but maybe she has him fooled..........I just dont get it........... ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: pink angel on August 17, 2009, 04:13:32 PM
I think it's great that Nejames and TES will be organizing a search for Haleigh.

If you want to do something to honor Haleigh on her birthday, I know what I did, I sent a donation to TES. They are struggling for funds just like a lot of non-profits. It's important work they do and it's important the money is there for future searches.

You can add a note to your donation that you'd like it to be used for the search for Haleigh or you are donating in Haleigh's honor.

Even a couple of dollars helps. It all adds up.

You can mail donations here:
Texas EquuSearch
PO Box 395
Dickinson, Texas 77539

or you can donate online with paypal or through a credit card:
http://texasequusearch.org/make-a-donation/

Your donation to Texas Equusearch will be used for search and rescue missions, equipment, fuel, food, lodging for the Search Coordinators and expenses to get the Mobile Command Center to the search location. Texas EquuSearch is a non-profit, 501(c)3 organization which operates strictly on donations from individuals and grants from organizations.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 04:21:50 PM
Seems pretty clear to me that LE feels exactly like I do.  MISTY holds the key:

At this point, the evidence and investigatory effort has minimized the likelihood that Haleigh’s disappearance is the work of a stranger. There is no specific individual whom investigators have identified as a person of interest. The biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, are not considered to be suspects in the case. Investigators believe that Misty Croslin-Cummings continues to hold important answers in the case. She has failed to provide any sort of detailed accounting of the hours during the late evening and early morning of Haleigh’s disappearance. Furthermore, physical evidence at the scene contradicts Misty’s sketchy account of her evening activities. Any citizen with direct knowledge of Misty’s activities during that evening or into the early morning is encouraged to report that information to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office.

I'm beginning to think that an arrest may be coming soon.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 04:22:18 PM
Great idea Pink  ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 04:26:13 PM
Seems pretty clear to me that LE feels exactly like I do.  MISTY holds the key:

At this point, the evidence and investigatory effort has minimized the likelihood that Haleigh’s disappearance is the work of a stranger. There is no specific individual whom investigators have identified as a person of interest. The biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, are not considered to be suspects in the case. Investigators believe that Misty Croslin-Cummings continues to hold important answers in the case. She has failed to provide any sort of detailed accounting of the hours during the late evening and early morning of Haleigh’s disappearance. Furthermore, physical evidence at the scene contradicts Misty’s sketchy account of her evening activities. Any citizen with direct knowledge of Misty’s activities during that evening or into the early morning is encouraged to report that information to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office.

I don't understand why they are not at least naming Misty as a person of interest???....wonder what physical evidence they are talking about???


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 04:28:15 PM
If this is what LE is thinking, which obviously it is about Misty, why is Ron protecting her, why doesn't he insist on her talking to LE? And with this press release if I were Misty, I would be really scared what Ron might do to me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 04:31:31 PM
If this is what LE is thinking, which obviously it is about Misty, why is Ron protecting her, why doesn't he insist on her talking to LE? And with this press release if I were Misty, I would be really scared what Ron might do to me.
Me too, but something, isnt like it seems, there's more to this story, has to be..........really weird,all of it.....


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Post by: islandmonkey on August 17, 2009, 04:32:54 PM
If this is what LE is thinking, which obviously it is about Misty, why is Ron protecting her, why doesn't he insist on her talking to LE? And with this press release if I were Misty, I would be really scared what Ron might do to me.
::MonkeyEek::

ME too~I wonder if she'll call her family after the RO she filed on her brother ::MonkeyNoNo:: Now, who does she have to protect her and WHY did it take over 6 months for PSCO to disclose this (most have felt this way since the 1st day) ::MonkeyMad::


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Post by: Nut44x4 on August 17, 2009, 04:33:16 PM
Case of missing girl focuses on dad's then-girlfriend

Last Modified: Monday, August 17, 2009 at 2:27 p.m.
Officers consider the former girlfriend, now wife, of the man whose daughter vanished from a Putnam County home earlier this year to be the key in their continued investigation into the girl's disappearance.

more......
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090817/ARTICLES/908179916/1002/news?Title=Case-of-missing-girl-focuses-on-dad-s-then-girlfriend


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 04:37:31 PM
If this is what LE is thinking, which obviously it is about Misty, why is Ron protecting her, why doesn't he insist on her talking to LE? And with this press release if I were Misty, I would be really scared what Ron might do to me.
Me too, but something, isnt like it seems, there's more to this story, has to be..........really weird,all of it.....
I totally believe there is more to this story.


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Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 04:43:01 PM
Putnam Sheriff: Croslin-Cummings Account 'Sketchy' 

Created: 8/17/2009 3:18:54 PM    Updated: 8/17/2009 3:27:49 PM

PALATKA, FL -- The Putnam County Sheriff's Office took a moment today to recognize the birthday of the little girl whose disappearance has been the subject of an Amber alert for over six months.

Haleigh Cummings turns six years old today. She hasn't been seen since February, when she disappeared from her father's house in Satsuma.

Sheriff Jeff Hardy sent out a release this afternoon highlighting the latest information in the search for Haleigh, and what has been done in the past 6 months.

The Sheriff's Office says they have followed up on over 4,000 leads and conducted hundreds of interviews.

They have searched thousands of acres of land and water, using aircraft, dogs and horses as well as the countless people who have joined in the search.

The release states that Haleigh's parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, are not considered suspects, but that Misty Croslin-Cummings, Ronald Cummings' wife, "continues to hold important answers."

The Sheriff's Office says her "sketchy account" of the evening Haleigh disappeared is contradicted by evidence at the scene, and she has failed to provide "any sort of detailed accounting of the hours" surrounding Haleigh's disappearance.

Haleigh and her brother were home with Misty the night of Haleigh's disappearance.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=143466&catid=3


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Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 04:49:39 PM
Police: Baby Sitter Key To Missing Fla. Girl Case

RON WORD, Associated Press Writer

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. (AP) ― Putnam County investigators say they don't think that Misty Croslin-Cummings has been straight with them as they continue to investigate the disappearance six months ago of Haleigh Cummings from her father's home in Satsuma.

In a news release marking the child's sixth birthday Monday, investigators said the child's biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, were not suspects.

But for the first time, they don't think Haleigh was abducted by a stranger. They said, Misty Croslin, who was baby-sitting the girl when she vanished from her father's mobile home in February, "continues to hold important answers in the case."

"She has failed to provide any sort of detailed accounting of the hours during the late evening and early morning of Haleigh's disappearance. Furthermore, physical evidence at the scene contracts Misty's sketchy account of her evening activities."

Croslin married Cummings about a month after Haleigh's disappearance. Their telephone in Welaka has been disconnected and it is not known if Croslin has an attorney.

According to the news release, investigators have received more than 4,000 leads, all of which have been followed up.

They have conducted 138 formal interviews and several hundred informal ones. DNA samples were collected from many of those interviewed.

The Florida Department of Law Enforcement processed the crime scene and did analysis on DNA and fingerprint evidence, none of which has identified a suspect.

Thousands of acres have been searched by air, on foot and by horseback. Divers have combed the water areas near where Haleigh disappeared.

"Sheriff (Jeff) Hardy wants to assure the public, but mainly Haleigh's family, that we will continue to aggressively pursue this case," the news release said.

Also Monday, a Texas-based search group said it would conduct another search for Haleigh Cummings.

Tim Miller, director of Texas EquuSearch, said the 50 group members and volunteers would search in four to six weeks. He said he thinks weather and vegetation conditions will be more conducive to finding the girl.

http://cbs11tv.com/wireapnewstx/Fla.police.say.2.1131787.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 04:52:24 PM
If this is what LE is thinking, which obviously it is about Misty, why is Ron protecting her, why doesn't he insist on her talking to LE? And with this press release if I were Misty, I would be really scared what Ron might do to me.
::MonkeyEek::

ME too~I wonder if she'll call her family after the RO she filed on her brother ::MonkeyNoNo:: Now, who does she have to protect her and WHY did it take over 6 months for PSCO to disclose this (most have felt this way since the 1st day) ::MonkeyMad::
Maybe it would have been in her best interest to go with them when she had the chance, either way, I  think she will eventually face charges, all they need is that little missing link and maybe with Tim Miller and this upcoming search, something is about to be reavealed..


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Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 04:57:19 PM
Haleigh Cummings Update: Parents Cleared, Misty’s Story Unclear

Posted on August 17th, 2009
by Simon Barrett in crime


This just in from TJ Hart, The Sky 97.3 - Simon

The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office issued a press release Monday, August 17, 2009–the date of Haleigh Cummings’ 6th birthday. Haleigh was taken from her home February 10, 2009 and had been missing since.

Here are some of the facts stated in the press release:

o We have received in excess of 4,000 leads, all of which have been followed up.

o We have conducted 138 formal interviews and several hundred informal interviews with potential witnesses. DNA samples were collected from many of those interviewed and compared to evidence collected in the case.

o FDLE processed the crime scene. Many items of potential evidentiary value were collected and sent to FDLE’s crime lab for analysis (ie. for fingerprints and DNA). All of evidence has been examined and/or processed, but none of it has identified any suspect or additional leads as to who the suspect(s) may be.

o We have searched thousands of acres, including all property south of Highway 17 near the Cummings residence.

o We have had numerous underwater recovery and search teams search all of the water near the area of the disappearance.

o Aviation assets have conducted several airborne searches.

o K9 assets have searched the area on several occasions.

o Volunteer civilian searchers on foot and horseback searched the wooded areas near the residence.

Lt. Johny Greenwood, in the press release stated,”At this point, the evidence and investigatory effort has minimized the likelihood that Haleigh’s disappearance is the work of a stranger. There is no specific individual whom investigators have identified as a person of interest.”

Ronald and Crystal are not suspects

The Sheriff’s Office stated, “The biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, are not considered to be suspects in the case.”

Investigators still contend that Misty Croslin-Cummings continues to hold important answers in the case. According to the release, “She (Misty) has failed to provide any sort of detailed accounting of the hours during the late evening and early morning of Haleigh’s disappearance. Furthermore, physical evidence at the scene contradicts Misty’s sketchy account of her evening activities.”

Any citizen with direct knowledge of Misty’s activities during that evening or into the early morning is encouraged to report that information to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office, according to the press release.

Sheriff Hardy Warns of Bloggers Posing as Reporters

Sheriff Hardy also stated in the release the importance of keeping the public involved in this case, and appreciates all of the leads that have been provided. Every lead that is provided is acted on by investigators. Hardy cautioned the public that because there are many who claim to be valid media outlets, that citizens should be careful not to fall into the trap of believing, or by accident spreading, the untrue and unreliable claims and assumptions of many bloggers who claim to be knowledgeable in the case.

Sheriff Welcomes Searchers

The Sheriff continues to urge anyone who is assisting, or who wants to assist, to be cautious to stay within the bounds of their authority as they pursue their activities.

Sheriff Hardy also assured the public, but mainly Haleigh’s family, that PCSO will continue to aggressively pursue this case and that we welcome the assistance of all Law Enforcement agencies or any other expert, including air, water, and ground searchers, that can assist in bringing Haleigh home.

Orlando Lawyer Mark LeJame and Texas EquuSearch to Look For Haleigh Soon

Last Friday, The Sky reported that Texas EquuSearch and Orlando Attorney Mark LeJame will be teaming up to conduct searches in the area for Haleigh at the request of Ronald Cummings family members.

NeJame called a press conference Monday announce that EquuSearch will help search for Haleigh once more. They won’t search immediately though, because the vegetation is too thick.

Tim Miller with Texas EquuSearch said it may be another six weeks to two months before his volunteers will scour the area once more for Haleigh.

Haleigh is described as a 5 year old white female. She is approximately 3′0, 39 lbs, blonde hair & brown eyes. Unknown clothing description.

Haleigh was last seen at her residence in the Hermit’s Cove area of Putnam County on February 9, 2009 between the hours of 8-10pm.

A statewide Amber Alert has been issued. An additional $35,000 in rewards have been posted.

If you have any information and wish to remain anonymous, please call Crime Stoppers at 1-888-277-TIPS (8477) or you can Text your tip by Texting “TIP231 plus your message” to CRIMES (274637). We don’t want your name; just your information and you could be eligible for a reward up to $1000.00

http://www.bloggernews.net/121927


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 04:59:01 PM
If this is what LE is thinking, which obviously it is about Misty, why is Ron protecting her, why doesn't he insist on her talking to LE? And with this press release if I were Misty, I would be really scared what Ron might do to me.
::MonkeyEek::

ME too~I wonder if she'll call her family after the RO she filed on her brother ::MonkeyNoNo:: Now, who does she have to protect her and WHY did it take over 6 months for PSCO to disclose this (most have felt this way since the 1st day) ::MonkeyMad::
Maybe it would have been in her best interest to go with them when she had the chance, either way, I  think she will eventually face charges, all they need is that little missing link and maybe with Tim Miller and this upcoming search, something is about to be reavealed..
I think also something is going to be revealed very soon, also find it interesting that the press release was put out today on Haleigh's birthday.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Leroy on August 17, 2009, 04:59:52 PM
I think it's great that Nejames and TES will be organizing a search for Haleigh.

If you want to do something to honor Haleigh on her birthday, I know what I did, I sent a donation to TES. They are struggling for funds just like a lot of non-profits. It's important work they do and it's important the money is there for future searches.

You can add a note to your donation that you'd like it to be used for the search for Haleigh or you are donating in Haleigh's honor.

Even a couple of dollars helps. It all adds up.

You can mail donations here:
Texas EquuSearch
PO Box 395
Dickinson, Texas 77539

or you can donate online with paypal or through a credit card:
http://texasequusearch.org/make-a-donation/

Your donation to Texas Equusearch will be used for search and rescue missions, equipment, fuel, food, lodging for the Search Coordinators and expenses to get the Mobile Command Center to the search location. Texas EquuSearch is a non-profit, 501(c)3 organization which operates strictly on donations from individuals and grants from organizations.

Wonderful idea Pink....thank you!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 05:04:51 PM
sounds like everyone is getting tired of the games ....ron and misty are fighting...neves hires tim....LE releases a statement.....I say enough is enough someone just spill the beans....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 05:14:16 PM
If this is what LE is thinking, which obviously it is about Misty, why is Ron protecting her, why doesn't he insist on her talking to LE? And with this press release if I were Misty, I would be really scared what Ron might do to me.

Is Ron really protecting Misty or was he protecting himself when he married her (STATUTORY RAPE)?

What really is going on with Misty and Hank Jr and the rest of the Croslins?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 05:19:23 PM
(http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=GS&Date=20090817&Category=ARTICLES&ArtNo=908179916&Ref=AR&MaxW=600&border=0)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 17, 2009, 05:20:09 PM
If this is what LE is thinking, which obviously it is about Misty, why is Ron protecting her, why doesn't he insist on her talking to LE? And with this press release if I were Misty, I would be really scared what Ron might do to me.
::MonkeyEek::

ME too~I wonder if she'll call her family after the RO she filed on her brother ::MonkeyNoNo:: Now, who does she have to protect her and WHY did it take over 6 months for PSCO to disclose this (most have felt this way since the 1st day) ::MonkeyMad::
Maybe it would have been in her best interest to go with them when she had the chance, either way, I  think she will eventually face charges, all they need is that little missing link and maybe with Tim Miller and this upcoming search, something is about to be reavealed..
I think also something is going to be revealed very soon, also find it interesting that the press release was put out today on Haleigh's birthday.

Timing on the Press Release is "impeccable"..............makes me wonder what is really going on behind the scenes ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 05:22:40 PM
If this is what LE is thinking, which obviously it is about Misty, why is Ron protecting her, why doesn't he insist on her talking to LE? And with this press release if I were Misty, I would be really scared what Ron might do to me.

Is Ron really protecting Misty or was he protecting himself when he married her (STATUTORY RAPE)?

What really is going on with Misty and Hank Jr and the rest of the Croslins?
Are you you suggesting, that the Croslins had something to do with Haleigh's disappearance? I have no idea what is going on with any of them.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 05:23:27 PM
If this is what LE is thinking, which obviously it is about Misty, why is Ron protecting her, why doesn't he insist on her talking to LE? And with this press release if I were Misty, I would be really scared what Ron might do to me.
::MonkeyEek::

ME too~I wonder if she'll call her family after the RO she filed on her brother ::MonkeyNoNo:: Now, who does she have to protect her and WHY did it take over 6 months for PSCO to disclose this (most have felt this way since the 1st day) ::MonkeyMad::
Maybe it would have been in her best interest to go with them when she had the chance, either way, I  think she will eventually face charges, all they need is that little missing link and maybe with Tim Miller and this upcoming search, something is about to be reavealed..
I think also something is going to be revealed very soon, also find it interesting that the press release was put out today on Haleigh's birthday.

Timing on the Press Release is "impeccable"..............makes me wonder what is really going on behind the scenes ::MonkeyDevil2::
Really heating up and the pressure is on.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 05:26:17 PM
Balloons For Haleigh Cummings

Posted on August 17th, 2009
by Simon Barrett in All News, crime


Today is her 6th birthday, it is also a little over six months ago that the little girl disappeared. The family wanted to express their concern over Haleigh Cummings by releasing some balloons. It might at first seem a futile gesture, but each one has a small message on it. Who knows, maybe there is someone that will find a balloon, read the message, and remember some inconsequential fact from 6 months ago.I was not in attendance for the balloon release. And many others were not. People live hundreds, even thousands of miles from Satsuma, Florida, but they still care. They want a solution, a resolution, is Haleigh Cummings having a sixth birthday, or is she just another statistic?

That is a question that we have no answer to at the moment.

I received an email from a friend of mine who lives in Florida, and knows the Satsuma area. He is married, and has young children. This afternoon he sent me a couple of pictures. I have to share them with you. There are no words required.

(http://www.bloggernews.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/haleigh-balloons.JPG)   (http://www.bloggernews.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/haleigh-ballons-2.JPG)

Take a moment, and wish Haleigh Cummings a happy birthday.

Simon Barrett

http://www.bloggernews.net/121930


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 05:31:38 PM
If this is what LE is thinking, which obviously it is about Misty, why is Ron protecting her, why doesn't he insist on her talking to LE? And with this press release if I were Misty, I would be really scared what Ron might do to me.

Is Ron really protecting Misty or was he protecting himself when he married her (STATUTORY RAPE)?

What really is going on with Misty and Hank Jr and the rest of the Croslins?
Are you you suggesting, that the Croslins had something to do with Haleigh's disappearance? I have no idea what is going on with any of them.

Just wondering about the Croslin's visit to Annette Sykes home, the fight, the silence of Hank Sr, the search in Welaka the next day, and the RSO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 05:37:07 PM
If this is what LE is thinking, which obviously it is about Misty, why is Ron protecting her, why doesn't he insist on her talking to LE? And with this press release if I were Misty, I would be really scared what Ron might do to me.

Is Ron really protecting Misty or was he protecting himself when he married her (STATUTORY RAPE)?

What really is going on with Misty and Hank Jr and the rest of the Croslins?
Are you you suggesting, that the Croslins had something to do with Haleigh's disappearance? I have no idea what is going on with any of them.

Just wondering about the Croslin's visit to Annette Sykes home, the fight, the silence of Hank Sr, the search in Welaka the next day, and the RSO.
I'm not real sure, but you can almost feel things are all coming together and there will be an explosion soon.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 05:41:27 PM
If this is what LE is thinking, which obviously it is about Misty, why is Ron protecting her, why doesn't he insist on her talking to LE? And with this press release if I were Misty, I would be really scared what Ron might do to me.

Is Ron really protecting Misty or was he protecting himself when he married her (STATUTORY RAPE)?

What really is going on with Misty and Hank Jr and the rest of the Croslins?
Are you you suggesting, that the Croslins had something to do with Haleigh's disappearance? I have no idea what is going on with any of them.
I dont think the Croslins had anything to do with Haleigh coming up missing, I think they are just one more crutch in the need for attention that Misty relies on so much,just look at how she wants it, she wanted Ron when she met him because Amber had him, she wanted WBG and went after him knowing that Ron would want her back, she went with Ronald after all this but wanted to keep her family concerned and in the middle of fighting for her so she did indeed call them that night, again knowing full well that Ronald would fight for her again, she ranted and raved at Ronald for talking to Cobra and threatened to leave , again knowing full well that Ronald would choose her........and this is just my opinion, but she wanted Ronald sttention on her and her alone and so she did something with Haleigh, knowing full well that Ronald would take up for her, and he has, I believe this is all Misty and her sick need for attention.........JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 05:45:54 PM
If this is what LE is thinking, which obviously it is about Misty, why is Ron protecting her, why doesn't he insist on her talking to LE? And with this press release if I were Misty, I would be really scared what Ron might do to me.

Is Ron really protecting Misty or was he protecting himself when he married her (STATUTORY RAPE)?

What really is going on with Misty and Hank Jr and the rest of the Croslins?
I think that he was protecting himself....if he were protecting Misty I think he would have seemed a lot happier....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 05:50:44 PM
If this is what LE is thinking, which obviously it is about Misty, why is Ron protecting her, why doesn't he insist on her talking to LE? And with this press release if I were Misty, I would be really scared what Ron might do to me.

Is Ron really protecting Misty or was he protecting himself when he married her (STATUTORY RAPE)?

What really is going on with Misty and Hank Jr and the rest of the Croslins?
Are you you suggesting, that the Croslins had something to do with Haleigh's disappearance? I have no idea what is going on with any of them.

Just wondering about the Croslin's visit to Annette Sykes home, the fight, the silence of Hank Sr, the search in Welaka the next day, and the RSO.
I'm not real sure, but you can almost feel things are all coming together and there will be an explosion soon.

If this was not a stranger abduction, and Ronald is not a suspect, and if Misty was  passed out from doing drugs, who else was at the mobile home that night?

If this was not a stranger abduction, and Ronald is not a suspect, and if Misty was not passed out from doing drugs, why is HaLeigh missing? Who helped Misty? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 05:50:54 PM
If this is what LE is thinking, which obviously it is about Misty, why is Ron protecting her, why doesn't he insist on her talking to LE? And with this press release if I were Misty, I would be really scared what Ron might do to me.

Is Ron really protecting Misty or was he protecting himself when he married her (STATUTORY RAPE)?

What really is going on with Misty and Hank Jr and the rest of the Croslins?
Are you you suggesting, that the Croslins had something to do with Haleigh's disappearance? I have no idea what is going on with any of them.
I dont think the Croslins had anything to do with Haleigh coming up missing, I think they are just one more crutch in the need for attention that Misty relies on so much,just look at how she wants it, she wanted Ron when she met him because Amber had him, she wanted WBG and went after him knowing that Ron would want her back, she went with Ronald after all this but wanted to keep her family concerned and in the middle of fighting for her so she did indeed call them that night, again knowing full well that Ronald would fight for her again, she ranted and raved at Ronald for talking to Cobra and threatened to leave , again knowing full well that Ronald would choose her........and this is just my opinion, but she wanted Ronald sttention on her and her alone and so she did something with Haleigh, knowing full well that Ronald would take up for her, and he has, I believe this is all Misty and her sick need for attention.........JMO
That makes a lot of sense...can't Ron see this???....maybe that is one of the reasons she won't talk so everyone will keep their attention on her????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 05:56:32 PM
If this is what LE is thinking, which obviously it is about Misty, why is Ron protecting her, why doesn't he insist on her talking to LE? And with this press release if I were Misty, I would be really scared what Ron might do to me.

Is Ron really protecting Misty or was he protecting himself when he married her (STATUTORY RAPE)?

What really is going on with Misty and Hank Jr and the rest of the Croslins?
Are you you suggesting, that the Croslins had something to do with Haleigh's disappearance? I have no idea what is going on with any of them.
I dont think the Croslins had anything to do with Haleigh coming up missing, I think they are just one more crutch in the need for attention that Misty relies on so much,just look at how she wants it, she wanted Ron when she met him because Amber had him, she wanted WBG and went after him knowing that Ron would want her back, she went with Ronald after all this but wanted to keep her family concerned and in the middle of fighting for her so she did indeed call them that night, again knowing full well that Ronald would fight for her again, she ranted and raved at Ronald for talking to Cobra and threatened to leave , again knowing full well that Ronald would choose her........and this is just my opinion, but she wanted Ronald sttention on her and her alone and so she did something with Haleigh, knowing full well that Ronald would take up for her, and he has, I believe this is all Misty and her sick need for attention.........JMO

What did Misty do with HaLeigh?

If she did something to her or with her, was she capable and did she do it alone?

If she did how did Misty transport HaLeigh away from the mobile home?

Why did she not know what HaLeigh was wearing that night?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 05:58:39 PM
If this is what LE is thinking, which obviously it is about Misty, why is Ron protecting her, why doesn't he insist on her talking to LE? And with this press release if I were Misty, I would be really scared what Ron might do to me.

Is Ron really protecting Misty or was he protecting himself when he married her (STATUTORY RAPE)?

What really is going on with Misty and Hank Jr and the rest of the Croslins?
Are you you suggesting, that the Croslins had something to do with Haleigh's disappearance? I have no idea what is going on with any of them.
I dont think the Croslins had anything to do with Haleigh coming up missing, I think they are just one more crutch in the need for attention that Misty relies on so much,just look at how she wants it, she wanted Ron when she met him because Amber had him, she wanted WBG and went after him knowing that Ron would want her back, she went with Ronald after all this but wanted to keep her family concerned and in the middle of fighting for her so she did indeed call them that night, again knowing full well that Ronald would fight for her again, she ranted and raved at Ronald for talking to Cobra and threatened to leave , again knowing full well that Ronald would choose her........and this is just my opinion, but she wanted Ronald sttention on her and her alone and so she did something with Haleigh, knowing full well that Ronald would take up for her, and he has, I believe this is all Misty and her sick need for attention.........JMO
That makes a lot of sense...can't Ron see this???....maybe that is one of the reasons she won't talk so everyone will keep their attention on her????
he probably could if he wasnt looking through rose colored glasses, so to speak, he must really be crazy about this girl, and she has him completely fooled, she has alot of people fooled if you ask me, I think that Mrs. Neves is starting to see through her now though, she didnt seen to impressed with her in the baloon release video, if all the players could just step back and watch her closely without a viel over their eyes they would see her for what she is, she thrives on attention and at the same time tries to look like the victim, she is good at it, she has probably played on people this way her entire life, Wonder if it will work for her in the big house......IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 06:01:34 PM
If this is what LE is thinking, which obviously it is about Misty, why is Ron protecting her, why doesn't he insist on her talking to LE? And with this press release if I were Misty, I would be really scared what Ron might do to me.

Is Ron really protecting Misty or was he protecting himself when he married her (STATUTORY RAPE)?

What really is going on with Misty and Hank Jr and the rest of the Croslins?
Are you you suggesting, that the Croslins had something to do with Haleigh's disappearance? I have no idea what is going on with any of them.
I dont think the Croslins had anything to do with Haleigh coming up missing, I think they are just one more crutch in the need for attention that Misty relies on so much,just look at how she wants it, she wanted Ron when she met him because Amber had him, she wanted WBG and went after him knowing that Ron would want her back, she went with Ronald after all this but wanted to keep her family concerned and in the middle of fighting for her so she did indeed call them that night, again knowing full well that Ronald would fight for her again, she ranted and raved at Ronald for talking to Cobra and threatened to leave , again knowing full well that Ronald would choose her........and this is just my opinion, but she wanted Ronald sttention on her and her alone and so she did something with Haleigh, knowing full well that Ronald would take up for her, and he has, I believe this is all Misty and her sick need for attention.........JMO

What did Misty do with HaLeigh?

If she did something to her or with her, was she capable and did she do it alone?

If she did how did Misty transport HaLeigh away from the mobile home?

Why did she not know what HaLeigh was wearing that night?
I think that she had help even if it was after the fact....JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 06:02:40 PM
If this is what LE is thinking, which obviously it is about Misty, why is Ron protecting her, why doesn't he insist on her talking to LE? And with this press release if I were Misty, I would be really scared what Ron might do to me.

Is Ron really protecting Misty or was he protecting himself when he married her (STATUTORY RAPE)?

What really is going on with Misty and Hank Jr and the rest of the Croslins?
Are you you suggesting, that the Croslins had something to do with Haleigh's disappearance? I have no idea what is going on with any of them.
I dont think the Croslins had anything to do with Haleigh coming up missing, I think they are just one more crutch in the need for attention that Misty relies on so much,just look at how she wants it, she wanted Ron when she met him because Amber had him, she wanted WBG and went after him knowing that Ron would want her back, she went with Ronald after all this but wanted to keep her family concerned and in the middle of fighting for her so she did indeed call them that night, again knowing full well that Ronald would fight for her again, she ranted and raved at Ronald for talking to Cobra and threatened to leave , again knowing full well that Ronald would choose her........and this is just my opinion, but she wanted Ronald sttention on her and her alone and so she did something with Haleigh, knowing full well that Ronald would take up for her, and he has, I believe this is all Misty and her sick need for attention.........JMO

What did Misty do with HaLeigh?

If she did something to her or with her, was she capable and did she do it alone?

If she did how did Misty transport HaLeigh away from the mobile home?

Why did she not know what HaLeigh was wearing that night?
Oh I believe she is more than capable, and she more than likely did do it alone, Ron Jr. was sleeping I suppose and the river isnt very far away from that Mobile home at all, who's to say she didnt just pick Haleigh up after the deed had been done, walk out the door and through the woods and throw her in the water, which would be the reason for her to mention that she sometimes took Haleigh with her when she walked over to her brothers house through that shortcut,makes sense to me..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 06:09:56 PM
does anyone know of they took cadaver dogs into the trailer? I think that someone sad that they had brown paper on the windows for luminal but what about the dogs???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 06:18:09 PM
does anyone know of they took cadaver dogs into the trailer? I think that someone sad that they had brown paper on the windows for luminal but what about the dogs???
I do think they did, but I also think Haleigh was suffacated, therefore would leave nothing but maybe the urine on the blankets that Misty already talked about washing, I think she had that much figured out and knew to mention that part and made sure to wash them, remember Marie said Haleigh had not wet the bed for a long time at her house so why did she on that particular night at Ronalds, hmmmm...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 06:18:10 PM
I still think that Ron acts strange.....perhaps he thinks that he knows what happened and in fact Misty has fed him a line of BS a mile long? I wonder why LE is so sure that he did not have any part in this? Just because he was not there does not mean anything IMO.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 06:20:45 PM
does anyone know of they took cadaver dogs into the trailer? I think that someone sad that they had brown paper on the windows for luminal but what about the dogs???
I do think they did, but I also think Haleigh was suffacated, therefore would leave nothing but maybe the urine on the blankets that Misty already talked about washing, I think she had that much figured out and knew to mention that part and made sure to wash them, remember Marie said Haleigh had not wet the bed for a long time at her house so why did she on that particular night at Ronalds, hmmmm...
And she could have bleached her hands of any bodily fluids..... since she was cleaning???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 06:21:18 PM
I still think that Ron acts strange.....perhaps he thinks that he knows what happened and in fact Misty has fed him a line of BS a mile long? I wonder why LE is so sure that he did not have any part in this? Just because he was not there does not mean anything IMO.....
I agree. Here is a new Art Harris article.         http://www.artharris.com/2009/08/17/haleigh-cummings-mom-dad-cleared-but-not-misty/#more-2592


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 06:22:24 PM
From above article     Sources tell us that one conflict involves a movie she told us Haleigh was watching that night, and the fact police found the dvd player high up on a shelf or armoir likely out of reach for a five year old and too complicated to program without help.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 06:24:33 PM
does anyone know of they took cadaver dogs into the trailer? I think that someone sad that they had brown paper on the windows for luminal but what about the dogs???
I do think they did, but I also think Haleigh was suffacated, therefore would leave nothing but maybe the urine on the blankets that Misty already talked about washing, I think she had that much figured out and knew to mention that part and made sure to wash them, remember Marie said Haleigh had not wet the bed for a long time at her house so why did she on that particular night at Ronalds, hmmmm...
And she could have bleached her hands of any bodily fluids..... since she was cleaning???
thats right, and just now on another forum....I hear that LE did get the chance to interview Ronald again, per Art Harris.....they did indeed talk to ROn again while he was locked up, which may be the reason they have released this report, maybe whatever they needed to take suspention off Ronald they got that night....maybe we will hear more about this soon...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 06:28:14 PM
I still think that Ron acts strange.....perhaps he thinks that he knows what happened and in fact Misty has fed him a line of BS a mile long? I wonder why LE is so sure that he did not have any part in this? Just because he was not there does not mean anything IMO.....
I agree. Here is a new Art Harris article.         http://www.artharris.com/2009/08/17/haleigh-cummings-mom-dad-cleared-but-not-misty/#more-2592
Thank You Rose, and I hear that Art is suppose to be on JM tonight as well talking about this.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Blue Moon on August 17, 2009, 06:29:43 PM
If this is what LE is thinking, which obviously it is about Misty, why is Ron protecting her, why doesn't he insist on her talking to LE? And with this press release if I were Misty, I would be really scared what Ron might do to me.

Is Ron really protecting Misty or was he protecting himself when he married her (STATUTORY RAPE)?

What really is going on with Misty and Hank Jr and the rest of the Croslins?
Are you you suggesting, that the Croslins had something to do with Haleigh's disappearance? I have no idea what is going on with any of them.
I dont think the Croslins had anything to do with Haleigh coming up missing, I think they are just one more crutch in the need for attention that Misty relies on so much,just look at how she wants it, she wanted Ron when she met him because Amber had him, she wanted WBG and went after him knowing that Ron would want her back, she went with Ronald after all this but wanted to keep her family concerned and in the middle of fighting for her so she did indeed call them that night, again knowing full well that Ronald would fight for her again, she ranted and raved at Ronald for talking to Cobra and threatened to leave , again knowing full well that Ronald would choose her........and this is just my opinion, but she wanted Ronald sttention on her and her alone and so she did something with Haleigh, knowing full well that Ronald would take up for her, and he has, I believe this is all Misty and her sick need for attention.........JMO
That makes a lot of sense...can't Ron see this???....maybe that is one of the reasons she won't talk so everyone will keep their attention on her????
he probably could if he wasnt looking through rose colored glasses, so to speak, he must really be crazy about this girl, and she has him completely fooled, she has alot of people fooled if you ask me, I think that Mrs. Neves is starting to see through her now though, she didnt seen to impressed with her in the baloon release video, if all the players could just step back and watch her closely without a viel over their eyes they would see her for what she is, she thrives on attention and at the same time tries to look like the victim, she is good at it, she has probably played on people this way her entire life, Wonder if it will work for her in the big house......IMO

I think Misty took her cues from Casey Anthony.  I think she pulled a copy-cat story on the police. I also think she sat in that trailer at night by herself with those children and watched all the action and attention the Anthony's were getting and decided she could use some of the same.  I think she had help in doing it.  AND in my opinion only Haleigh is no longer with us.  Sorry but I feel that way and really, really wish I didn't.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 06:30:08 PM
Partying with Misty and his friends at his grandmas trailer? I feel so sorry for Ron JR.....I think that DCF has really dropped the ball on this one...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 06:30:47 PM
If this is what LE is thinking, which obviously it is about Misty, why is Ron protecting her, why doesn't he insist on her talking to LE? And with this press release if I were Misty, I would be really scared what Ron might do to me.

Is Ron really protecting Misty or was he protecting himself when he married her (STATUTORY RAPE)?

What really is going on with Misty and Hank Jr and the rest of the Croslins?
Are you you suggesting, that the Croslins had something to do with Haleigh's disappearance? I have no idea what is going on with any of them.
I dont think the Croslins had anything to do with Haleigh coming up missing, I think they are just one more crutch in the need for attention that Misty relies on so much,just look at how she wants it, she wanted Ron when she met him because Amber had him, she wanted WBG and went after him knowing that Ron would want her back, she went with Ronald after all this but wanted to keep her family concerned and in the middle of fighting for her so she did indeed call them that night, again knowing full well that Ronald would fight for her again, she ranted and raved at Ronald for talking to Cobra and threatened to leave , again knowing full well that Ronald would choose her........and this is just my opinion, but she wanted Ronald sttention on her and her alone and so she did something with Haleigh, knowing full well that Ronald would take up for her, and he has, I believe this is all Misty and her sick need for attention.........JMO

What did Misty do with HaLeigh?

If she did something to her or with her, was she capable and did she do it alone?

If she did how did Misty transport HaLeigh away from the mobile home?

Why did she not know what HaLeigh was wearing that night?
Oh I believe she is more than capable, and she more than likely did do it alone, Ron Jr. was sleeping I suppose and the river isnt very far away from that Mobile home at all, who's to say she didnt just pick Haleigh up after the deed had been done, walk out the door and through the woods and throw her in the water, which would be the reason for her to mention that she sometimes took Haleigh with her when she walked over to her brothers house through that shortcut,makes sense to me..

I believe I had read that one of Misty's brothers was visiting that night. Have you heard that?  If so, do you know which one?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 06:32:58 PM
Blue Moon interesting observation  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 06:33:31 PM
she said the blanket was in the van that they took that night so ....I am guessing the brother that keeps the van most of the time? I get them mixed up ...I am thinking the brother that cousin Joe was staying with?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 06:34:53 PM
Partying with Misty and his friends at his grandmas trailer? I feel so sorry for Ron JR.....I think that DCF has really dropped the ball on this one...
  ::MonkeyEek::  If you can party, you can go and get a job, but hey that's me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 06:37:52 PM
Partying with Misty and his friends at his grandmas trailer? I feel so sorry for Ron JR.....I think that DCF has really dropped the ball on this one...
  ::MonkeyEek::  If you can party, you can go and get a job, but hey that's me.
Amen to that ! you would think that you would have to have a job to be able to afford to party????....and then again maybe he does have a job if you know what I mean.....how does he keep from getting busted????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 06:45:53 PM
Partying with Misty and his friends at his grandmas trailer? I feel so sorry for Ron JR.....I think that DCF has really dropped the ball on this one...
  ::MonkeyEek::  If you can party, you can go and get a job, but hey that's me.
Amen to that ! you would think that you would have to have a job to be able to afford to party????....and then again maybe he does have a job if you know what I mean.....how does he keep from getting busted????
I have no idea, but it must be very awkward living in that trailer right about now  ::MonkeyEek:: Wonder what grandma and Ron are saying to Misty, something is just way off on all this, imo.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 17, 2009, 06:48:48 PM
If this is what LE is thinking, which obviously it is about Misty, why is Ron protecting her, why doesn't he insist on her talking to LE? And with this press release if I were Misty, I would be really scared what Ron might do to me.
::MonkeyEek::

ME too~I wonder if she'll call her family after the RO she filed on her brother ::MonkeyNoNo:: Now, who does she have to protect her and WHY did it take over 6 months for PSCO to disclose this (most have felt this way since the 1st day) ::MonkeyMad::

Amen IM.  Why did it take so long for them to say this.

This was a very revealing article, at least for me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 06:49:38 PM
It is so wierd how in the interview with NG that he said that cousin Joe was not at the house that night but everything else about that night he doesn't know because he was at work....and he said that he is the only one with a key to the house and that he made sure of that because he did not want something like this to happen....but "news flash".....most abductors do not  use a  key to abduct a child....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 06:51:07 PM
If this is what LE is thinking, which obviously it is about Misty, why is Ron protecting her, why doesn't he insist on her talking to LE? And with this press release if I were Misty, I would be really scared what Ron might do to me.

Is Ron really protecting Misty or was he protecting himself when he married her (STATUTORY RAPE)?

What really is going on with Misty and Hank Jr and the rest of the Croslins?
Are you you suggesting, that the Croslins had something to do with Haleigh's disappearance? I have no idea what is going on with any of them.
I dont think the Croslins had anything to do with Haleigh coming up missing, I think they are just one more crutch in the need for attention that Misty relies on so much,just look at how she wants it, she wanted Ron when she met him because Amber had him, she wanted WBG and went after him knowing that Ron would want her back, she went with Ronald after all this but wanted to keep her family concerned and in the middle of fighting for her so she did indeed call them that night, again knowing full well that Ronald would fight for her again, she ranted and raved at Ronald for talking to Cobra and threatened to leave , again knowing full well that Ronald would choose her........and this is just my opinion, but she wanted Ronald sttention on her and her alone and so she did something with Haleigh, knowing full well that Ronald would take up for her, and he has, I believe this is all Misty and her sick need for attention.........JMO

What did Misty do with HaLeigh?

If she did something to her or with her, was she capable and did she do it alone?

If she did how did Misty transport HaLeigh away from the mobile home?

Why did she not know what HaLeigh was wearing that night?
Oh I believe she is more than capable, and she more than likely did do it alone, Ron Jr. was sleeping I suppose and the river isnt very far away from that Mobile home at all, who's to say she didnt just pick Haleigh up after the deed had been done, walk out the door and through the woods and throw her in the water, which would be the reason for her to mention that she sometimes took Haleigh with her when she walked over to her brothers house through that shortcut,makes sense to me..

I believe I had read that one of Misty's brothers was visiting that night. Have you heard that?  If so, do you know which one?
I  havent heard that her brother was visiting, well not after they left, and Grandma was supposingly over to bring the clean clothes, after that....I think it was just Misty and the 2 kids...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 17, 2009, 06:53:49 PM
Just Thinking Outloud...

Misty is the key but what really does that mean..

1. Misty knows what happened that night is protecting someone.

2. Misty knows what happened and protecting herself.

3. Misty knows what happened and protecting herself and someone else

3. She left that night and doesnt want to admit it but if this is true who took Haleigh and why?

What happened the week before Haleigh went missing..

The Le doing a search for Haleigh while Ron and Misty get married..
Le comes out and makes a updated report on Haleigh's birthday..
Are they sending a message?

I still can't get past the 911 call , inconsistancies , and the live interviews with NG and Greta.JMO




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 06:56:39 PM
Just Thinking Outloud...

Misty is the key but what really does that mean..

1. Misty knows what happened that night is protecting someone.

2. Misty knows what happened and protecting herself.

3. Misty knows what happened and protecting herself and someone else

3. She left that night and doesnt want to admit it but if this is true who took Haleigh and why?

What happened the week before Haleigh went missing..

The Le doing a search for Haleigh while Ron and Misty get married..
Le comes out and makes a updated report on Haleigh's birthday..
Are they sending a message?

I still can't get past the 911 call , inconsistancies , and the live interviews with NG and Greta.JMO



I can't get past the 911 call and inconsistancies either.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 17, 2009, 06:57:26 PM
My mind keeps going back to when Ron said if he found out who took Haleigh, he would kill them.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 17, 2009, 06:58:48 PM
Just Thinking Outloud...

Misty is the key but what really does that mean..

1. Misty knows what happened that night is protecting someone.

2. Misty knows what happened and protecting herself.

3. Misty knows what happened and protecting herself and someone else

3. She left that night and doesnt want to admit it but if this is true who took Haleigh and why?

What happened the week before Haleigh went missing..

The Le doing a search for Haleigh while Ron and Misty get married..
Le comes out and makes a updated report on Haleigh's birthday..
Are they sending a message?

I still can't get past the 911 call , inconsistancies , and the live interviews with NG and Greta.JMO



I can't get past the 911 call and inconsistancies either.

I might add the Today Show.... Eye opener...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 06:59:50 PM
The Today Show was an eye opener  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 07:02:25 PM
JVM going to talk about Haleigh in a few minutes.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 17, 2009, 07:02:46 PM
http://www.artharris.com/2009/08/17/haleigh-cummings-mom-dad-cleared-but-not-misty/#more-2592

The grilling took place in the Putnam County Jail, before Misty and his grandmother put up the $12,500 bond to spring him, and revealed little that was new. Over dinner at MeMa’s restaurant in Satsuma five months ago, Ronald confided he worried that Misty knew more than she was telling, and for that reason, was keeping her close, in spite of her shenanigans.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 07:05:30 PM
http://www.artharris.com/2009/08/17/haleigh-cummings-mom-dad-cleared-but-not-misty/#more-2592

The grilling took place in the Putnam County Jail, before Misty and his grandmother put up the $12,500 bond to spring him, and revealed little that was new. Over dinner at MeMa’s restaurant in Satsuma five months ago, Ronald confided he worried that Misty knew more than she was telling, and for that reason, was keeping her close, in spite of her shenanigans.
But how long do you keep that up?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 07:19:17 PM
http://www.artharris.com/2009/08/17/haleigh-cummings-mom-dad-cleared-but-not-misty/#more-2592

The grilling took place in the Putnam County Jail, before Misty and his grandmother put up the $12,500 bond to spring him, and revealed little that was new
. Over dinner at MeMa’s restaurant in Satsuma five months ago, Ronald confided he worried that Misty knew more than she was telling, and for that reason, was keeping her close, in spite of her shenanigans.

Would LE really inform AH what was revealed in the interrogation?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 17, 2009, 07:22:42 PM
Action news Jax video..Haleigh 6th Birthday...

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=33062@wtev.dayport.com&navCatId=5






Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 17, 2009, 07:34:28 PM
http://www.artharris.com/2009/08/17/haleigh-cummings-mom-dad-cleared-but-not-misty/#more-2592

The grilling took place in the Putnam County Jail, before Misty and his grandmother put up the $12,500 bond to spring him, and revealed little that was new. Over dinner at MeMa’s restaurant in Satsuma five months ago, Ronald confided he worried that Misty knew more than she was telling, and for that reason, was keeping her close, in spite of her shenanigans.
But how long do you keep that up?

wonder if Ron was afraid that if he didn't marry Misty to keep her around that she may take off somewhere and he wouldn't know where she went and therefore would not be able to get any answers out of her? He needed to keep her around to find out what really happened? To me that would be an indicator of why he looked so pissy the day that they went to apply for the marriage license...He looked like it was something that he had to do, not something that he wanted to do...
Misty Knows what happened! Or else she is lying about being home that night and does not want Ron to find that out...no telling what he will do when he finds out the truth about that night imo!
The LE need to haul her butt into the station and don't let her go till she gets her timeline right! imo...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 07:40:22 PM
Ron should be driving her down to the station right now, why doesn't he?


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 07:46:45 PM
And if Ron doesn't want to maybe his mom or grandma could drive Misty's butt down to the station, I can't believe that grandma would even want her in her home after the release of the presser today.


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Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 07:46:57 PM
Ron should be driving her down to the station right now, why doesn't he?
maybe she knows something about him that she is holding over his head????


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Post by: cookie on August 17, 2009, 07:47:34 PM
Ron should be driving her down to the station right now, why doesn't he?

I agree...
maybe he thought that he could get the info out of her..pillow talk and all of that...I don't think that Ron would protect anyone who he thought had something to do with taking Haleigh...jmo...


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Post by: cookie on August 17, 2009, 07:50:24 PM
And if Ron doesn't want to maybe his mom or grandma could drive Misty's butt down to the station, I can't believe that grandma would even want her in her home after the release of the presser today.

I can't believe that grandma Teresa and granny Sykes haven't changed their mind about Misty by now especially with the release of the presser today either!
Maybe Teresa broke ranks with Ronald and Misty and that is why she contacted Tim? or the attorney? perhaps...


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Post by: strayze on August 17, 2009, 07:51:22 PM
Cookie - thanks  ::MonkeyCool::

Strayze - that's correct so what has changed now?
I don't know.  Was Nejame involved before?  If not, perhaps since he is a very prominent individual in that geographical area, he could be the deciding factor.  Also, I believe there has been some changeover of LE from before.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 07:51:33 PM
And if Ron doesn't want to maybe his mom or grandma could drive Misty's butt down to the station, I can't believe that grandma would even want her in her home after the release of the presser today.

I can't believe that grandma Teresa and granny Sykes haven't changed their mind about Misty by now especially with the release of the presser today either!
Maybe Teresa broke ranks with Ronald and Misty and that is why she contacted Tim? or the attorney? perhaps...
I have a feeling Teresa broke ranks with Ron and Misty.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 07:52:17 PM
Ron should be driving her down to the station right now, why doesn't he?
maybe she knows something about him that she is holding over his head????
I have thought about that a lot also.


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Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 07:53:38 PM
I don't think that anyone is going to get anything out of her.....she may look young and uneducated but I think that she is very street smart and very manipulative....she seems to have them all wrapped around her little finger.....maybe if Ron made her mad enough she might blurt something out ......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 17, 2009, 07:56:24 PM
Ron should be driving her down to the station right now, why doesn't he?

I agree no rose.  I just can't figure it out.


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Post by: alagary on August 17, 2009, 07:57:13 PM
WOW! I took a week off from reading and things start happening . Still back reading but now I'll probably be up all night.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 07:57:47 PM
I don't think that anyone is going to get anything out of her.....she may look young and uneducated but I think that she is very street smart and very manipulative....she seems to have them all wrapped around her little finger.....maybe if Ron made her mad enough she might blurt something out ......
She does, how does she do it? She really must be very manipulative  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 07:58:21 PM
WOW! I took a week off from reading and things start happening . Still back reading but now I'll probably be up all night.
It sure has.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 17, 2009, 08:04:41 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=143485&catid=3


Haleigh's 6th Birthday Brings Prominent Attorney and Balloons
    Created: 8/17/2009 7:02:08 PM    Updated: 8/17/2009 7:14:58 PM


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 08:04:56 PM
I don't think that anyone is going to get anything out of her.....she may look young and uneducated but I think that she is very street smart and very manipulative....she seems to have them all wrapped around her little finger.....maybe if Ron made her mad enough she might blurt something out ......
I agree, she knows what she is doing, she is getting her way, she got Ronald all to herself, he married her, he isnt working anymore so they are spending all their time together and she has a built  in babysitter with Granny Sykes, boy her life sure has turned out for the better since Haleigh has come up missing...IMO


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Post by: Searching on August 17, 2009, 08:08:51 PM
Happy Birthday Haleigh.

Evening folks, just wanted to wish our girl a Happy Birthday, been a looooong and difficult day, I did not sleep well last night so am turning in early.

Hoping that Haleigh is found soon.

Good night monkeys.


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Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 08:22:33 PM
Happy Birthday Haleigh.

Evening folks, just wanted to wish our girl a Happy Birthday, been a looooong and difficult day, I did not sleep well last night so am turning in early.

Hoping that Haleigh is found soon.

Good night monkeys.

Good evening Searching, hope your day went well!


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Post by: cookie on August 17, 2009, 08:30:03 PM
Happy Birthday Haleigh.

Evening folks, just wanted to wish our girl a Happy Birthday, been a looooong and difficult day, I did not sleep well last night so am turning in early.

Hoping that Haleigh is found soon.

Good night monkeys.

Good evening Searching, hope your day went well!

ditto Searching...sleep well!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 08:39:33 PM
I can see her manipulating Ron...Love is blind they say...but neves and sykes should be able to see right through her...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 08:41:34 PM
I think that she was very jealous of Haleigh...I am surprised that Misty hasn't made him get her name tattooed on him


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 08:43:24 PM
I can see her manipulating Ron...Love is blind they say...but neves and sykes should be able to see right through her...
Maybe they do, but they have to baby Ronald and follow his lead, after all, they are trying to be there for Ronald and stand behind him., but Im sure they have their own questions about Misty,, they just dont say them out loud..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 08:45:32 PM
I think that she was very jealous of Haleigh...I am surprised that Misty hasn't made him get her name tattooed on him
Oh well, the tatoos he has doesnt hurt her feeling, not that she would ever voice out loud, she has to be sly remember, its part of her act, Ronalds Mother is always gonna be around and Haleigh is gone so Misty is alright with that Im sure..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 08:46:58 PM
maybe sykes thinks with them living in the house that she may be able to over hear Misty saying something....or pick up a strange number on her phone bill????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 08:53:12 PM
I can see her manipulating Ron...Love is blind they say...but neves and sykes should be able to see right through her...
I agree, love can be blind and stupid, but no excuses for Neves and Sykes.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 08:53:13 PM
Sykes should have had them remove one of the stones from the ring she gave misty and put a tiny bug/chip in it somehow...I bet this case would already be solved


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 08:54:12 PM
Sykes should have had them remove one of the stones from the ring she gave misty and put a tiny bug/chip in it somehow...I bet this case would already be solved
  ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: cookie on August 17, 2009, 08:56:33 PM
Sykes should have had them remove one of the stones from the ring she gave misty and put a tiny bug/chip in it somehow...I bet this case would already be solved

smart monkey! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 09:01:04 PM
Sykes should have had them remove one of the stones from the ring she gave misty and put a tiny bug/chip in it somehow...I bet this case would already be solved
well, maybe she could have if she could have gotten to the jelwry store before Ronald bought it,,,,,I still dont think it was a herloom.....MOO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 09:05:36 PM
remember when Cobra said that Ron was at the convience store about 2:30 and was suppose to have been talking to some girl in  the parking lot ? did anyone ever say who that girl was????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 17, 2009, 09:09:19 PM
remember when Cobra said that Ron was at the convience store about 2:30 and was suppose to have been talking to some girl in  the parking lot ? did anyone ever say who that girl was????

no...and we don't know for sure that Ron was in the parking lot at 2:30...LE hasn't said that was true or not...with all the rumors that have come out in this case, who knows? if it is true, do you have any ideas as to who he was talking with? I had not heard that he was talking with a girl, so I would have no clue who she might be...:)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 09:15:04 PM
remember when Cobra said that Ron was at the convience store about 2:30 and was suppose to have been talking to some girl in  the parking lot ? did anyone ever say who that girl was????
Not trying to say anything bad, but I dont believe much of anything that Cobra might say, I have never seen proof that Ronald was there at that convience store at all, so sorry, cant help you with that.


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Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 09:16:25 PM
I think it was on the simon show a while back that cobra was saying this ...when he was saying that Misty was going to be mad when that girl had her baby about the same time as Misty but you are right it was probably just all rumors because I don't think that Misty is even pg.... ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 09:20:04 PM
I think it was on the simon show a while back that cobra was saying this ...when he was saying that Misty was going to be mad when that girl had her baby about the same time as Misty but you are right it was probably just all rumors because I don't think that Misty is even pg.... ::MonkeyConfused::
neither do I, just more crap that Cobra likes to stir up...Misty didnt look pg. to me at the video of the balloon release today and so therefore I doubt she is, Cobra can really say some outlandish things........JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 09:26:16 PM
I noticed in the news clip today that Ron said when that balloon got stuck in the tree that it might be a sign that Haleigh would come back there and that was her home.....I guess he plans on staying at sykes forever...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 09:27:34 PM
The inconsistencies in Misty's story is not new news. However we learned physical evidence at the scene contradicts Misty's sketchy account of her evening activities per LE.

We learned today is that Crystal and Ronald are not suspects per LE.

We learned NeJame is not representing Ron or his wife, Misty.

We learned Tim Miller of Texas Equusearch will do another ground search in Putnam County.

We learned it's unlikely a stranger had something to do with Haleigh's disappearance per LE.

We learned physical evidence at the scene contradicts Misty's sketchy account of her evening activities per LE

We learned their telephone in Welaka has been disconnected and it is not known if Croslin has an attorney.

We learned all 4,000 leads been followed up.

We learned the Florida Department of Law Enforcement processed the crime scene and did analysis on DNA and fingerprint evidence, none of which has identified a suspect.

We learned thousands of acres have been searched by air, on foot and by horseback. Divers have combed the water areas near where Haleigh disappeared.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 09:30:00 PM
I noticed in the news clip today that Ron said when that balloon got stuck in the tree that it might be a sign that Haleigh would come back there and that was her home.....I guess he plans on staying at sykes forever...
I guess  he is finding hope in anything he  can....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mytime on August 17, 2009, 09:35:20 PM
Why can't they arrest Misty for child negelct??   ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mytime on August 17, 2009, 09:37:43 PM
LE waited 6 months before asking the public if they saw Misty outside the trailer the night Haleigh went missing??? 

6 months??   ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 09:38:11 PM
remember when Cobra said that Ron was at the convience store about 2:30 and was suppose to have been talking to some girl in  the parking lot ? did anyone ever say who that girl was????

Cobra says a lot of stuff. I was annoyed with him on Sunday in his attempt to belittle Tim Miller, plus when he named lady friends of Tim.

It only showed the sleaziness of Cobra.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mytime on August 17, 2009, 09:38:47 PM
WOW, JVM gave 2 minutes for Haleigh!   ::MonkeyMad::

Unbelievable!!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Leroy on August 17, 2009, 09:40:35 PM
WOW, JVM gave 2 minutes for Haleigh!   ::MonkeyMad::

Unbelievable!!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I'm with ya   ::MonkeyMad:: 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 09:40:50 PM
remember when Cobra said that Ron was at the convience store about 2:30 and was suppose to have been talking to some girl in  the parking lot ? did anyone ever say who that girl was????

Cobra says a lot of stuff. I was annoyed with him on Sunday in his attempt to belittle Tim Miller, plus when he named lady friends of Tim.

It only showed the sleaziness of Cobra.
I didn't hear that, I wondered what was being said, what does that have to do with anything I wonder? Why would he even bring info like that up, maybe he is jealous.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 17, 2009, 09:41:27 PM
WOW, JVM gave 2 minutes for Haleigh!   ::MonkeyMad::

Unbelievable!!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::
I know, did Nancy cover this case at all tonight?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 09:45:01 PM
a while back they said that they had not examined all of the evidence now they have and in doing so I guess they came up with the physical evidence that does not go along with Mistys sketchy recollection so IMO they could have known this sooner...grrrrr...not acceptable....but i wonder if in the process of the finished examination something has made them decide to go back to ground searches with Tim etc....doesn't sound good...but still hoping for a good outcome somehow


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 09:52:35 PM
Why can't they arrest Misty for child negelct??   ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
I guess they want to make sure that if they arrest her that they have enough to make it stick when they go to trial???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Babybear on August 17, 2009, 10:02:00 PM
All of these people are really trashy people and I wouldn't put anything past any of them.  My money would be on Misty, but I don't know all of the facts that have been released so far.  She seems like a whiney little snit and I can't see her enjoying taking care of two kids, or even doing it well.  I hope Haleigh is alive, but I can't see much hope of that.  They are all despicable. Put them all in jail, I say.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mytime on August 17, 2009, 10:06:16 PM
WOW, JVM gave 2 minutes for Haleigh!   ::MonkeyMad::

Unbelievable!!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::
I know, did Nancy cover this case at all tonight?

I missed NG tonight so I don't know!!  Sorry!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 10:10:56 PM
a while back they said that they had not examined all of the evidence now they have and in doing so I guess they came up with the physical evidence that does not go along with Mistys sketchy recollection so IMO they could have known this sooner...grrrrr...not acceptable....but i wonder if in the process of the finished examination something has made them decide to go back to ground searches with Tim etc....doesn't sound good...but still hoping for a good outcome somehow
I agree, and things are looking really bad for Misty, which IMO they always have, Im glad LE finally released a statement one way or the other....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 10:12:43 PM
Why can't they arrest Misty for child negelct??   ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
I guess they want to make sure that if they arrest her that they have enough to make it stick when they go to trial???
exactly, and dont forget Misty now has a lawyer to interveen in anything they try to do so they have to have everything straight before they make a move..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 10:13:55 PM
WOW, JVM gave 2 minutes for Haleigh!   ::MonkeyMad::

Unbelievable!!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::
I know, did Nancy cover this case at all tonight?

I missed NG tonight so I don't know!!  Sorry!
Nope....I havent heard anything and Im watching her now........and good to see you here My Time...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 10:14:20 PM
Investigators say focus has narrowed in Haleigh’s disappearance

    * By Dana Treen
 
ANDY JACOBSOHN/The Times-Union-- Each attached with Amber Alert information, balloons were released Monday to mark the sixth birthday of Haleigh Cummings, who has been missing since February.

 On the day marking Haleigh Cummings’ sixth birthday, authorities said the 17-year-old woman who last saw the Putnam County kindergartner is the primary focus of their investigation.


Physical evidence contradicts where Misty Cummings — then Misty Croslin — told detectives she was when the girl vanished, according to a news release Monday from the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office. In what are their most detailed comments so far, investigators said Haleigh’s biological parents are not considered suspects in the six-month disappearance and they do not believe it was a stranger abduction.


Misty Cummings is not considered a suspect, said Lt. Johnny Greenwood of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office, but knows more than she is telling.

The remarks came as hundreds of balloons with fliers were released at the time of the Satsuma girl’s birth. Her father’s family also joined Monday with an Orlando lawyer to elevate the case in the public’s eye. A search team that scoured the woods near where Haleigh disappeared also is promising to return to search again.


“It’s about time,” Greenwood said about the decision to provide more detail about where the investigation is headed. “We really need the truth, we need to know what happened that night.”


Cummings, who was 16 when Haleigh vanished and has since married her father, “has failed to provide any sort of detailed accounting of the hours during the late evening and early morning of Haleigh’s disappearance,” according to the statement Monday.


“Furthermore, physical evidence at the scene contradicts Misty’s sketchy account of her evening activities,” the statement said.


She was living with Ronald Cummings and two of his children in Satsuma and was the one who called the Sheriff’s Office after 3 a.m. on Feb. 10 to report Haleigh missing. Cummings had come home from a late shift at a Palatka plant about the time the call was made.


“She either won’t or can’t account for what she was doing,” Greenwood said.


She has told investigators she was alone with the children that night.


“She is the person who has to know what happened,” he said.


Authorities will not say what evidence contradicts what they were told in interviews, but Greenwood said there was no sign of forced entry to the mobile home where Haleigh disappeared.


He said it is also clear that Haleigh was not prone to wander off in the middle of the night.
Detectives have interviewed the couple and Haleigh’s mother, Crystal Sheffield, who has been estranged from Cummings for several years. Cummings has custody of Haleigh and their son Ronald Cummings Jr.


Detectives have conducted 138 formal interviews and hundreds of informal ones, according to the department. Greenwood would not say how many hours or how many times Misty Cummings was interviewed. She told the Times-Union she recalled one early interview lasting as long as eight hours.


Ronald Cummings’ mother said she does not believe her daughter-in-law has misled investigators. Misty Croslin has a seventh-grade education, Teresa Neves said and should not be able to fool interrogators that have included FBI agents.


“She feels they are not being fair to her,” Neves said Monday.


Neves said she was glad suspicion was lifted from her son and that detectives should continue to interview anyone who they believe holds information that will help the case, including her daughter-in-law.


“I say more power to them,” Neves said. “Anybody who can actually be tied to this they ought to bring in and keep them until they get the answers.”


Orlando lawyer Mark NeJame, who has worked on the high-profile Caylee Anthony case, said Monday he has met with Neves and the Cummings family to work on focusing public attention on Haleigh. NeJame also has worked with EquuSearch, a search group that specializes in missing children and was involved with both the Anthony and Cummings cases.


EquuSearch founder Tim Miller said Monday he will bring a team back to Putnam to rework areas that were searched in the past. He said he will wait until summer growth has died, which will make searching easier.


Greenwood said thousands of acres have already been searched, but investigators spoke with Miller on Monday and welcome his help trying to locate Haleigh.


“The areas that we felt needed to be searched have been searched,” he said. “We’ll welcome them back.”

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-08-17/story/investigators_say_focus_has_narrowed_in_haleigh%E2%80%99s_disappearance


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 10:19:16 PM
Why can't they arrest Misty for child negelct??   ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
I guess they want to make sure that if they arrest her that they have enough to make it stick when they go to trial???


Misty Cummings is not considered a suspect, said Lt. Johnny Greenwood of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office, but knows more than she is telling.

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-08-17/story/investigators_say_focus_has_narrowed_in_haleigh%E2%80%99s_disappearance


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mytime on August 17, 2009, 10:24:02 PM
WOW, JVM gave 2 minutes for Haleigh!   ::MonkeyMad::

Unbelievable!!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::
I know, did Nancy cover this case at all tonight?

I missed NG tonight so I don't know!!  Sorry!
Nope....I havent heard anything and Im watching her now........and good to see you here My Time...

Thanks HH, I read here but I don't post too often.  I have enough time staying out of trouble on Caylee.   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 17, 2009, 10:27:35 PM
WOW, JVM gave 2 minutes for Haleigh!   ::MonkeyMad::

Unbelievable!!!   ::MonkeyNoNo::
I know, did Nancy cover this case at all tonight?

I missed NG tonight so I don't know!!  Sorry!
Nope....I havent heard anything and Im watching her now........and good to see you here My Time...

Thanks HH, I read here but I don't post too often.  I have enough time staying out of trouble on Caylee.   ::MonkeyConfused::
yea, I know what you mean about staying out of trouble.....and yea JVM just cut Haleigh off after just a few minutes, IMO she should have gave the entire show to her in hohor of her Birthday....jmo.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 10:42:40 PM
http://www.myspace.com/grandmas_angel_haleigh

I wanted to post this in case anyone has not seen it...I just found it today so maybe there are others that have not seen it either ????....there are a lot of pics on here....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 17, 2009, 10:48:28 PM
This monkey is tired......signing out....maybe good news tommorrow....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 17, 2009, 10:56:42 PM
remember when Cobra said that Ron was at the convience store about 2:30 and was suppose to have been talking to some girl in  the parking lot ? did anyone ever say who that girl was????

Cobra says a lot of stuff. I was annoyed with him on Sunday in his attempt to belittle Tim Miller, plus when he named lady friends of Tim.

It only showed the sleaziness of Cobra.
I didn't hear that, I wondered what was being said, what does that have to do with anything I wonder? Why would he even bring info like that up, maybe he is jealous.

I was disgusted with that show on Sunday.. Every week all sorts of stories just throwing crap out there... They can't even get some of the facts correct..Cobra making smart remarks about Tim.. Then Simon's comment :The question in my mind, and it has been there for many months, is Tim Miller all he says he is? Who the heck is he to question this man with a heart  who has a track record for finding the missing....

Then this from Simon...It was not till the end of the program that Tim Miller entered the story, but it is worth listening to. This might just want to make you rethink your next contribution! This might not make BNN popular, but one has to report it as it is told.

I don't need to rethink where my contributions will go... Tim Miller will certainly get my contributions...

God Bless Haleigh... ::MonkeyAngel::

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 17, 2009, 11:15:02 PM
That wasn't a "lady friend" of Tim's it was Tim's ex employee office person.  Maybe someone should ask Tim about Mandy?  Tim Miller isn't perfect by any means but Tim Miller has found many missing persons alive and dead.  How many has Cobra or Padilla found?  I'm talking missing persons not criminals that have jumped bail.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 11:20:25 PM
Haleigh Investigation Focuses On Misty Croslin
Girl's Birthday Marked With Balloon Release

POSTED: 7:08 pm EDT August 16, 2009
UPDATED: 6:02 pm EDT August 17, 2009

SATSUMA, Fla. -- Investigators said they are focusing on one key person in the search for 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings.

A candid update to the investigation into Haleigh's death from her Satsuma home last February
was released on the girl's sixth birthday. The Putnam County Sheriff's Office said that the work they have done so far minimizes the likelihood that Haleigh's disappearance is the work of a stranger.

Investigators said that evidence at the scene contradicts what the new bride, Misty Croslin-Cummings, of the girl's father, Ronald Cummings, has told them regarding the evening that Haleigh disappeared from her bed while she was in Croslin-Cummings' care.

Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, Haleigh's biological parents, have been publicly cleared in the investigation.

Meanwhile, the family invited the community to join the release by printing out a flier with Haleigh's picture on it, put it in a red or purple balloon and releasing it at 2:16 p.m. Monday.

Orlando attorney Make NeJame and Texas EqquSearch founder Tim Miller also announced they are teaming up to search for Haleigh. Miller said the search will take place in four to six weeks -- when he believes weather conditions and vegetation will be more conducive to finding the girl. The search has spanned thousands of acres of land to date, including all of the area near the Cummings' home. Aerial and underwater searches have also been conducted.

Miller said about 50 EquuSearch members and volunteers will conduct the search. The group has searched for the girl previously and also searched for Caylee Anthony.

So far in the search for Haleigh, the Putnam County Sheriff's Office has followed up on 4,000 leads. Several hundred informal interviews and 138 formal interviews have been conducted since the girl disappeared.

In a special report on WESH 2 News at 11, reporter Michelle Meredith hears from the Cummings family about the search for Haleigh.

Haleigh Investigation Focuses On Misty Croslin
Girl's Birthday Marked With Balloon Release

POSTED: 7:08 pm EDT August 16, 2009
UPDATED: 6:02 pm EDT August 17, 2009
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SATSUMA, Fla. -- Investigators said they are focusing on one key person in the search for 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings.

A candid update to the investigation into Haleigh's death from her Satsuma home last February was released on the girl's sixth birthday. The Putnam County Sheriff's Office said that the work they have done so far minimizes the likelihood that Haleigh's disappearance is the work of a stranger.

Investigators said that evidence at the scene contradicts what the new bride, Misty Croslin-Cummings, of the girl's father, Ronald Cummings, has told them regarding the evening that Haleigh disappeared from her bed while she was in Croslin-Cummings' care.

Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, Haleigh's biological parents, have been publicly cleared in the investigation.

Meanwhile, the family invited the community to join the release by printing out a flier with Haleigh's picture on it, put it in a red or purple balloon and releasing it at 2:16 p.m. Monday.

Orlando attorney Make NeJame and Texas EqquSearch founder Tim Miller also announced they are teaming up to search for Haleigh. Miller said the search will take place in four to six weeks -- when he believes weather conditions and vegetation will be more conducive to finding the girl. The search has spanned thousands of acres of land to date, including all of the area near the Cummings' home. Aerial and underwater searches have also been conducted.

Miller said about 50 EquuSearch members and volunteers will conduct the search. The group has searched for the girl previously and also searched for Caylee Anthony.

So far in the search for Haleigh, the Putnam County Sheriff's Office has followed up on 4,000 leads. Several hundred informal interviews and 138 formal interviews have been conducted since the girl disappeared.

In a special report on WESH 2 News at 11, reporter Michelle Meredith hears from the Cummings family about the search for Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Idgie on August 17, 2009, 11:22:56 PM
http://www.artharris.com/2009/08/17/haleigh-cummings-mom-dad-cleared-but-not-misty/#more-2592

The grilling took place in the Putnam County Jail, before Misty and his grandmother put up the $12,500 bond to spring him, and revealed little that was new. Over dinner at MeMa’s restaurant in Satsuma five months ago, Ronald confided he worried that Misty knew more than she was telling, and for that reason, was keeping her close, in spite of her shenanigans.

The grilling took place in the Putnam County Jail, before Misty and his grandmother put up the $12,500 bond to spring him, and revealed little that was new. Over dinner at MeMa’s restaurant in Satsuma five months ago, Ronald confided he worried that Misty knew more than she was telling, and for that reason, was keeping her close, in spite of her shenanigans.

At the same time, he also confided he loved her
.[/b]

If you add the next line it makes more sense.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 17, 2009, 11:32:31 PM
http://www.artharris.com/2009/08/17/haleigh-cummings-mom-dad-cleared-but-not-misty/#more-2592

The grilling took place in the Putnam County Jail, before Misty and his grandmother put up the $12,500 bond to spring him, and revealed little that was new. Over dinner at MeMa’s restaurant in Satsuma five months ago, Ronald confided he worried that Misty knew more than she was telling, and for that reason, was keeping her close, in spite of her shenanigans.

The grilling took place in the Putnam County Jail, before Misty and his grandmother put up the $12,500 bond to spring him, and revealed little that was new. Over dinner at MeMa’s restaurant in Satsuma five months ago, Ronald confided he worried that Misty knew more than she was telling, and for that reason, was keeping her close, in spite of her shenanigans.

At the same time, he also confided he loved her
.[/b]

If you add the next line it makes more sense.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 17, 2009, 11:33:10 PM
TJ Hart has sent a message to a member that amber is talking!!!! Says he has been waiting too!!! TJ very upbeat tonight!!!

http://twitter.com/RadioNewz#/RadioNewz


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Blumonkey on August 17, 2009, 11:33:49 PM
I have believed from the beginning that Misty knows more than she is telling,but she is not alone. If you look back on the early interviews on Greta and others Ron is clearly coaching her. When asked how far apart the two beds were, she says three inches and Ron corrects her and says "no, three feet." He also tells her to look at the camera, to speak up,etc. IMO, LE is putting pressure on the weakest link, Misty. They know she will not take the fall for this alone and hope she will tell what she knows. If they can isolate and detain her she will talk.There is no way Misty keeps silent to save Ron at her own expense. LE knows this and the next few days are going to be interesting. This sweet child deserves to be found and the perpetrators punished! ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: ospainter on August 17, 2009, 11:37:09 PM
Haleigh Investigation Focuses On Misty Croslin
Girl's Birthday Marked With Balloon Release

POSTED: 7:08 pm EDT August 16, 2009
UPDATED: 6:02 pm EDT August 17, 2009

SATSUMA, Fla. -- Investigators said they are focusing on one key person in the search for 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings.

A candid update to the investigation into Haleigh's death from her Satsuma home last February
was released on the girl's sixth birthday. The Putnam County Sheriff's Office said that the work they have done so far minimizes the likelihood that Haleigh's disappearance is the work of a stranger.

Investigators said that evidence at the scene contradicts what the new bride, Misty Croslin-Cummings, of the girl's father, Ronald Cummings, has told them regarding the evening that Haleigh disappeared from her bed while she was in Croslin-Cummings' care.

Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, Haleigh's biological parents, have been publicly cleared in the investigation.

Meanwhile, the family invited the community to join the release by printing out a flier with Haleigh's picture on it, put it in a red or purple balloon and releasing it at 2:16 p.m. Monday.

Orlando attorney Make NeJame and Texas EqquSearch founder Tim Miller also announced they are teaming up to search for Haleigh. Miller said the search will take place in four to six weeks -- when he believes weather conditions and vegetation will be more conducive to finding the girl. The search has spanned thousands of acres of land to date, including all of the area near the Cummings' home. Aerial and underwater searches have also been conducted.

Miller said about 50 EquuSearch members and volunteers will conduct the search. The group has searched for the girl previously and also searched for Caylee Anthony.

So far in the search for Haleigh, the Putnam County Sheriff's Office has followed up on 4,000 leads. Several hundred informal interviews and 138 formal interviews have been conducted since the girl disappeared.

In a special report on WESH 2 News at 11, reporter Michelle Meredith hears from the Cummings family about the search for Haleigh.

Haleigh Investigation Focuses On Misty Croslin
Girl's Birthday Marked With Balloon Release

POSTED: 7:08 pm EDT August 16, 2009
UPDATED: 6:02 pm EDT August 17, 2009
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SATSUMA, Fla. -- Investigators said they are focusing on one key person in the search for 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings.

A candid update to the investigation into Haleigh's death from her Satsuma home last February was released on the girl's sixth birthday. The Putnam County Sheriff's Office said that the work they have done so far minimizes the likelihood that Haleigh's disappearance is the work of a stranger.

Investigators said that evidence at the scene contradicts what the new bride, Misty Croslin-Cummings, of the girl's father, Ronald Cummings, has told them regarding the evening that Haleigh disappeared from her bed while she was in Croslin-Cummings' care.

Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, Haleigh's biological parents, have been publicly cleared in the investigation.

Meanwhile, the family invited the community to join the release by printing out a flier with Haleigh's picture on it, put it in a red or purple balloon and releasing it at 2:16 p.m. Monday.

Orlando attorney Make NeJame and Texas EqquSearch founder Tim Miller also announced they are teaming up to search for Haleigh. Miller said the search will take place in four to six weeks -- when he believes weather conditions and vegetation will be more conducive to finding the girl. The search has spanned thousands of acres of land to date, including all of the area near the Cummings' home. Aerial and underwater searches have also been conducted.

Miller said about 50 EquuSearch members and volunteers will conduct the search. The group has searched for the girl previously and also searched for Caylee Anthony.

So far in the search for Haleigh, the Putnam County Sheriff's Office has followed up on 4,000 leads. Several hundred informal interviews and 138 formal interviews have been conducted since the girl disappeared.

In a special report on WESH 2 News at 11, reporter Michelle Meredith hears from the Cummings family about the search for Haleigh.

Heart

There was a misprint in that article, it has been corrected

http://www.wesh.com/news/20422695/detail.html

A candid update to the investigation into Haleigh's disappearance from her Satsuma home last February was released on the girl's sixth birthday. The Putnam County Sheriff's Office said that the work they have done so far minimizes the likelihood that Haleigh's disappearance is the work of a stranger.

OS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Idgie on August 17, 2009, 11:59:09 PM
TJ Hart has sent a message to a member that amber is talking!!!! Says he has been waiting too!!! TJ very upbeat tonight!!!

http://twitter.com/RadioNewz#/RadioNewz

I just wonder where AB's mom is and if she is alone.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 18, 2009, 12:04:26 AM
TJ Hart has sent a message to a member that amber is talking!!!! Says he has been waiting too!!! TJ very upbeat tonight!!!

http://twitter.com/RadioNewz#/RadioNewz

I just wonder where AB's mom is and if she is alone.

Amber, her mom, Lisa, WBG have been on my radar for sometime now.

I hope that it is true that Amber is talking.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 18, 2009, 12:09:43 AM


Heart

There was a misprint in that article, it has been corrected

http://www.wesh.com/news/20422695/detail.html

A candid update to the investigation into Haleigh's disappearance from her Satsuma home last February was released on the girl's sixth birthday. The Putnam County Sheriff's Office said that the work they have done so far minimizes the likelihood that Haleigh's disappearance is the work of a stranger.

OS

Thanks OS, I was hoping it was in error!

Good to see you.

Did you get a chance to attend any of the events for HaLeigh?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Idgie on August 18, 2009, 12:23:43 AM
TJ Hart has sent a message to a member that amber is talking!!!! Says he has been waiting too!!! TJ very upbeat tonight!!!

http://twitter.com/RadioNewz#/RadioNewz

I just wonder where AB's mom is and if she is alone.



Amber, her mom, Lisa, WBG have been on my radar for sometime now.

I hope that it is true that Amber is talking.

They have been on my radar also and it is a KISS theory. I so hope it is true but these blogger guys have put out so much false info I find it hard to believe them without proof. I have prayed for Haleigh to come home safe and sound for so long. It would be such a miracle if that could happen tonight.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 18, 2009, 07:42:22 AM
Good Morning All!

Haleigh's parents cleared; lawmen doubt babysitter

By Kristin Chambers
Published: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:54 AM EDT

Parents of Haleigh Cummings, the Satsuma kindergartner missing since February, have been cleared of suspicion in her disappearance, authorities said Monday.

But deputies said Misty Croslin-Cummings may still hold answers.

"The biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, are not considered to be suspects in the case," Lt. Johnny Greenwood said in a statement issued Monday. "Investigators believe that Misty Croslin-Cummings continues to hold important answers in the case," he said.

Croslin-Cummings told deputies she was babysitting Haleigh when she vanished. The 17-year-old married Ronald Cummings about a month after Haleigh disappeared.

Putnam County lawmen on Monday once again said they had doubts about Croslin-Cummings' accounts of what happened the night before the child was reported missing.

"She has failed to provide any sort of detailed accounting of the hours during the late evening and early morning of Haleigh's disappearance," Greenwood said. "Furthermore, physical evidence at the scene contradicts Misty's sketchy account of her evening activities."

The sheriff's office is asking the public's help to confirm Croslin-Cummings activities, Greenwood said.

"Any citizen with direct knowledge of Misty's activities during that evening or into the early morning is encouraged to report that information to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office," he said.

Attempts to reach Croslin-Cummings for comment were unsuccessful.

In the months since Haleigh vanished, investigators have followed more than 4,000 leads and conducted 138 formal interviews, as well as several hundred informal interviews with potential witnesses, authorities said.

"We are working diligently to find Haleigh have been from early the morning of Feb. 10," Sheriff Jeff Hardy said Monday. "This effort will not stop until she is found."

No trace of Haleigh has been found and no suspects have been identified by investigators.

"The evidence and investigatory effort has minimized the likelihood that Haleigh's disappearance is the work of a stranger," Greenwood said. "There is no specific individual whom investigators have identified as a person of interest."

A nationwide Amber Alert was issued for Haleigh, and searches involving helicopters, trained dogs, horseback and underwater teams explored areas surrounding the Cummings home in Satsuma.

Meanwhile, EquuSearch, a Texas-based equine search team, will conduct another search for Haleigh in four to six weeks.

Orlando attorney Mark NeJame and EquuSearch founder Tim Miller said they believe vegetation and weather conditions will be more conductive to finding the kindergartener.

About 50 EquuSearch members and volunteers will be conducting the search.

In Monday's statement, Greenwood also urged residents to beware of "untrue and unreliable claims and assumptions of many bloggers who claim to be knowledgeable in the case."

Greenwood also said anyone who assists the investigation must act legally, which appeared to be a reference to a South Florida bounty hunter who faces charges in Putnam County for apprehending and questioning an accused sex offender.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

kchambers@palatkadailynews.com

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 18, 2009, 07:46:37 AM
In Monday's statement, Greenwood also urged residents to beware of "untrue and unreliable claims and assumptions of many bloggers who claim to be knowledgeable in the case."

Greenwood also said anyone who assists the investigation must act legally, which appeared to be a reference to a South Florida bounty hunter who faces charges in Putnam County for apprehending and questioning an accused sex offender.

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/08/18/news/news01.txt


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 18, 2009, 07:55:26 AM
Balloons fly for Haleigh

By Julie Martin and Kristin Chambers
Published: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:54 AM EDT

On her sixth birthday, hundreds of red and purple balloons dotted Putnam County skies Monday in remembrance of missing child Haleigh Cummings.

Haleigh's paternal family asked the community to release the balloons at 2:16 p.m. to correspond with her 2:16 a.m. birth.

"It's very emotional," Annette Sykes, Haleigh's paternal great-grandmother, said. "But we've got hope and faith that she's alive."

Missing child fliers were attached to the balloons in hope that when a balloon lands, someone with information about Haleigh will see the flier and contact the police.

"Hopefully it gets reached by the right person and someone has the information, really good information, that will help find the child," said Melanie Wells, owner of Flowers by Melanie, the shop that took an order for the balloons. "Maybe something good will come of it. There's always hope."

Wells said a California woman ordered 125 balloons and asked Wells to attach the fliers. Helium in the balloons should last about four to five hours, she said.

"She's doing it because she's touched by what happened," Wells said.

Wells said 75 balloons were given to Haleigh's family and 51 were released in front of her shop. Wells said the 51st balloon was donated by one of her customers who wanted to participate in the balloon release.

At Riverfront Park, about 20 supporters were handed balloons as Louise Brock worked quickly to fill as many as possible.

Brock said she has seven grandchildre, and traveled from Georgia to help the family in the weekend events.

"If one of my grandchildren were missing I would want someone to help me find them," Brock said. "I'm praying she is alive just like your sheriff's office says she is."

Individuals standing before the St. Johns River released over 200 balloons, while others tried to unlock car doors in time to allow them to escape from a brimming vehicle.

Members of the Cummings family released about 100 balloons from their Welaka residence in a private ceremony.

"Ronald has been having a very hard time leading up to today," Sykes said. "It just gets harder and harder every day."

kchambers@palatkadailynews.com

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/08/18/news/news02.txt


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 18, 2009, 08:01:04 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20422695/detail.html
Haleigh Investigation Focuses On Misty Croslin
Girl's Birthday Marked With Balloon Release


POSTED: 7:08 pm EDT August 16, 2009
UPDATED: 11:23 pm EDT August 17, 2009
SATSUMA, Fla. -- Investigators said they are focusing on one key person in the search for 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings.

A candid update to the investigation into Haleigh's disappearance from her Satsuma home last February was released on the girl's sixth birthday. The Putnam County Sheriff's Office said that the work they have done so far minimizes the likelihood that Haleigh's disappearance is the work of a stranger.

Investigators said that evidence at the scene contradicts what the new bride, Misty Croslin-Cummings, of the girl's father, Ronald Cummings, has told them regarding the evening that Haleigh disappeared from her bed while she was in Croslin-Cummings' care.

Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, Haleigh's biological parents, have been publicly cleared in the investigation.
Meanwhile, the family invited the community to join the release by printing out a flier with Haleigh's picture on it, put it in a red or purple balloon and releasing it at 2:16 p.m. Monday.

Orlando attorney Make NeJame and Texas EqquSearch founder Tim Miller also announced they are teaming up to search for Haleigh. Miller said the search will take place in four to six weeks -- when he believes weather conditions and vegetation will be more conducive to finding the girl. The search has spanned thousands of acres of land to date, including all of the area near the Cummings' home. Aerial and underwater searches have also been conducted.

Miller said about 50 EquuSearch members and volunteers will conduct the search. The group has searched for the girl previously and also searched for Caylee Anthony.

So far in the search for Haleigh, the Putnam County Sheriff's Office has followed up on 4,000 leads. Several hundred informal interviews and 138 formal interviews have been conducted since the girl disappeared.

In a special report on WESH 2 News at 11, reporter Michelle Meredith hears from the Cummings family about the search for Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 18, 2009, 08:03:14 AM
Misty Cummings the focus of investigation
Haleigh's parents not named suspects

By DANA TREEN  |   More by this reporter  |  Morris News Service  |   Posted: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 ; Updated: 11:53 PM on Tuesday, August 18, 2009

On the day marking Haleigh Cummings' sixth birthday, authorities said the 17-year-old woman who last saw the Putnam County kindergartner is the primary focus of their investigation.

Physical evidence contradicts where Misty Cummings -- then Misty Croslin -- told detectives she was when the girl vanished, according to a news release Monday from the Putnam County Sheriff's Office. In what are their most detailed comments so far, investigators also said Haleigh's biological parents are not considered suspects in the six-month disappearance.

"It's about time," Greenwood said about the decision to provide more detail about where the investigation is headed. "We really need the truth, we need to know what happened that night." Cummings, who was 16 when Haleigh vanished and has since married her father, "has failed to provide any sort of detailed accounting of the hours during the late evening and early morning of Haleigh's disappearance," according to the statement Monday.

"Furthermore, physical evidence at the scene contradicts Misty's sketchy account of her evening activities," the statement said.

She was living with Ronald Cummings and two of his children in Satsuma and was the one who called the Sheriff's Office after 3 a.m. on Feb. 10 to report Haleigh missing. Cummings had come home from a late shift at a Palatka plant about the time the call was made.

"She either won't or can't account for what she was doing," Greenwood said.

She has told investigators she was alone with the children that night.

"She is the person who has to know what happened," he said.

Authorities will not say what evidence contradicts what they were told in interviews, but Greenwood said there was no sign of forced entry to the mobile home where Haleigh disappeared.

He said it is also clear that Haleigh was not prone to wander off in the middle of the night.

Detectives have interviewed the couple and Haleigh's mother, Crystal Sheffield, who has been estranged from Cummings for several years. Cummings has custody of Haleigh and their son Ronald Cummings Jr.

Detectives have conducted 138 formal interviews and hundreds of informal ones, according to the department. Greenwood would not say how many hours or how many times Misty Cummings was interviewed. She told the Times-Union she recalled one early interview lasting as long as eight hours.

Ronald Cummings' mother said she does not believe her daughter-in-law has misled investigators. Misty Croslin has a seventh-grade education, Teresa Neves said and should not be able to fool interrogators that have included FBI agents.

"She feels they are not being fair to her," Neves said Monday.

Neves said she was glad suspicion was lifted from her son and that detectives should continue to interview anyone who they believe holds information that will help the case, including her daughter-in-law.

"I say more power to them," Neves said. "Anybody who can actually be tied to this they ought to bring in and keep them until they get the answers."

Orlando lawyer Mark NeJame, who has worked on the high-profile Caylee Anthony case, said Monday he has met with Neves and the Cummings family to work on focusing public attention on Haleigh. NeJame also has worked with EquuSearch, a search group that specializes in missing children and was involved with both the Anthony and Cummings cases.

EquuSearch founder Tim Miller said Monday he will bring a team back to Putnam to rework areas that were searched in the past. He said he will wait until summer growth has died, which will make searching easier.

Greenwood said thousands of acres have already been searched, but investigators spoke with Miller on Monday and welcome his help trying to locate Haleigh.

"The areas that we felt needed to be searched have been searched," he said.

"We'll welcome them back."

http://www.staugustine.com/stories/081809/news_1862226.shtml


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 18, 2009, 08:13:46 AM
Investigators say dad's new wife is key to cracking case
Putnam officials no longer believe the missing girl was taken by a stranger

By Lise Fisher
Staff writer

Published: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 at 6:30 a.m.
Last Modified: Monday, August 17, 2009 at 10:56 p.m.

GAINESVILLE - Marking the sixth birthday of a missing Putnam County girl, investigators made it clear Monday who they consider key to breaking the case: the former girlfriend and now wife of Haleigh Cummings' father.


Investigators also said they no longer think the girl was taken by a stranger.

When Haleigh vanished in early February, Misty Croslin-Cummings said she was alone with the girl and the child's younger brother at the home of the children's father, Ronald Cummings, in southern Putnam County. She said she awoke in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom and realized the girl was missing.

At the time, Cummings was at work. He returned home to discover his little girl had vanished, prompting a frantic call to law enforcement.

After multiple interviews over the past six months with Haleigh's family, including Croslin-Cummings, the Sheriff's Office bluntly stated officers' beliefs about the case for the first time since Haleigh disappeared.

"Investigators believe that Croslin-Cummings continues to hold important answers in the case. She has failed to provide any sort of detailed accounting of the hours during the late evening and early morning of Haleigh's disappearance. Furthermore, physical evidence at the scene contradicts Misty's sketchy account of her evening activities," the Sheriff's Office reported in a statement.

"Any citizen with direct knowledge of Misty's activities during that evening or into the early morning is encouraged to report that information to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office," the news release stated.

Contrary to initial comments from officers that Haleigh possibly was abducted, the Sheriff's Office reported that evidence gathered so far doesn't support that theory.

"At this point, the evidence and investigatory effort has minimized the likelihood that Haleigh's disappearance is the work of a stranger," the statement reported.

And the agency said Haleigh's biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, are not considered suspects.

Croslin-Cummings could not be reached Monday for comment.

Teresa Neves, Haleigh's paternal grandmother, said, "We are very happy that they finally cleared Ronald as a suspect."

As for her daughter-in-law, she said the family loved Misty and believed she loved the children. But as for why the Sheriff's Office chose to issue these comments, she said she would leave that to police and an attorney.

Cummings married his girlfriend, then 17, in mid-March.

Sheriff's Office spokesman Lt. Johnny Greenwood said law enforcement's concerns about Croslin-Cummings and the information she has provided to investigators are not new. "It's not been a secret the whole way through that she's made inconsistent statements. We're just letting the facts out there," Greenwood said. "We've known since day one that she wasn't telling us everything."

Greenwood would not elaborate on what parts of Croslin-Cummings' statements officers are concerned about except that some interviews she gave to news media early in the investigation included inconsistent statements such as details on where Haleigh was placed to sleep that night.

Cummings and his wife have been involved in recent incidents indicating problems within their family.

Putnam County deputies arrested Cummings on Aug. 6 on a charge of burglary with assault or battery after he was accused of hitting his brother-in-law, Hank Croslin Jr. Croslin told officers that the fight occurred after his sister contacted her family and said she didn't want to stay at home with her husband any longer.

Cummings, however, signed affidavits saying his brother-in-law and father-in-law were the aggressors, the Sheriff's Office reported.

Last week, deputies also reported they investigated whether Cummings put a headless rat in Croslin's mailbox. Cummings denied placing the rodent.

Greenwood said investigators don't think the incidents are related to Haleigh's case.

But, he said, "If it takes them not getting along to get the truth, so be it."

Also on Monday, EquuSearch, a Texas-based search group that had helped look for Haleigh when she first disappeared, announced it would conduct another search for the girl.

About 50 members and volunteers are supposed to conduct the search that founder Tim Miller said would take place in four to six weeks.

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090818/ARTICLES/908181007/1402/NEWS?Title=Investigators-say-dad-s-new-wife-is-key-to-cracking-case


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 18, 2009, 08:56:02 AM
Haleigh Cummings' 6th Birthday Observed
2009-8-17 by: Lt. Johnny Greenwood
   

Today marks Haleigh Cummings’ sixth birthday, and a little over six months into the investigation of her disappearance. Sheriff Hardy’s interest in the public’s desire to bring Haleigh home, have led him to release the following update on the investigation.

Investigators from the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and investigators from agencies throughout Florida have invested thousands of man-hours into the investigation thus far.

Here are some of the facts:

We have received in excess of 4,000 leads, all of which have been followed up.
We have conducted 138 formal interviews and several hundred informal interviews with potential witnesses. DNA samples were collected from many of those interviewed and compared to evidence collected in the case.
FDLE processed the crime scene. Many items of potential evidentiary value were collected and sent to FDLE’s crime lab for analysis (ie. for fingerprints and DNA). All of evidence has been examined and/or processed, but none of it has identified any suspect or additional leads as to who the suspect(s) may be.
We have searched thousands of acres, including all property west of Highway 17 near the Cummings residence.
We have had numerous underwater recovery and search teams search all of the water near the area of the disappearance.
Aviation assets have conducted several airborne searches.
K9 assets have searched the area on several occasions.
Volunteer civilian searchers on foot and horseback searched the wooded areas near the residence.

At this point, the evidence and investigatory effort has minimized the likelihood that Haleigh’s disappearance is the work of a stranger. There is no specific individual whom investigators have identified as a person of interest. The biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, are not considered to be suspects in the case. Investigators believe that Misty Croslin-Cummings continues to hold important answers in the case. She has failed to provide any sort of detailed accounting of the hours during the late evening and early morning of Haleigh’s disappearance. Furthermore, physical evidence at the scene contradicts Misty’s sketchy account of her evening activities. Any citizen with direct knowledge of Misty’s activities during that evening or into the early morning is encouraged to report that information to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office.

Sheriff Hardy realizes the importance of keeping the public involved in this case, and appreciates all of the leads that have been provided. Every lead that is provided is acted on by investigators. Sheriff Hardy cautions that because there are many who claim to be valid media outlets, that citizens should be careful not to fall into the trap of believing, or by accident spreading, the untrue and unreliable claims and assumptions of many bloggers who claim to be knowledgeable in the case. He also urges anyone that is assisting, or who wants to assist, to be cautious to stay within the bounds of their authority as they pursue their activities.

Sheriff Hardy wants to assure the public, but mainly Haleigh’s family, that we will continue to aggressively pursue this case and that we welcome the assistance of all Law Enforcement agencies or any other expert, including air, water, and ground searchers,  that can assist in bringing Haleigh home.

http://www.pcso.us/2009-8-17-a


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 18, 2009, 09:02:26 AM
morning all..

slowly slowly the truth will be coming out...the wheels are turning against Misty...Teresa is breaking ranks with Ron/Misty, especially Misty imo...she wants the truth about Haleigh no matter who may be involved imo...Misty will begin to crack as soon as Granny Sykes gets on board with Teresa if she hasn't already, then that only leaves Ron...I think that if his mother and Granny start talking against Misty, he will turn on her also...time will tell....they need to put pressure on Misty to tell the darn truth for Haleigh's sake! I don't know what took them so long to see through Misty...Remember, she had been fairly new to the family when Haleigh went missing...she was on her best behavior and was presenting herself as the "best little step mommy to be" in order to get the approval of both grannies who have a lot of influence in Ron's life I feel....the grannies thought that Misty was wonderful to the children and therefore, they accepted her into their family...Now they are having second thoughts..( finally!) all my own opinions


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 18, 2009, 09:03:47 AM
update:

UCN: 542005DR001321FDXXXX
File Date: 2005-09-16 Disposition Date: 2007-11-08
File Type: PATERNITY - FD12
Judge: A W NICHOLS III   

Plaintiffs
CUMMINGS RONALD LEMYLES  Defendants
SHEFFIELD CRYSTAL DIANE 


Date Docket Description
2005-09-16 001.PETITION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY AND RELATED RELIEF 

2005-09-16 002.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE 

2005-09-16 003.UNIFORM CHILD CUSTODY JURISDICTION/ENFORCEMENT AFFID. 

2005-09-16 004.FINANCIAL AFFIDAVIT - PETITIONER 

2005-09-16 005.NOTICE OF SOCIAL SECURITY - PETITIONER 

2005-09-16 006.REQUEST FOR SUMMONS TO BE ISSUED 

2005-09-16 007. SUMMONS ISSUED:CRYSTAL DIANE SHEFFIELD 9/19/2005 

2005-09-16 .ADDRESS:11024 ARROWBROOK JAX FL 32221 

2005-09-16 .SUMM RT 10-26-05 SVD 10-05-05 DUE 10-25-05 

2005-10-18 008. ANSWER FILED BY PETITIONER 

2005-10-26 009. MOTION TO SET HEARING 

2005-10-26 010. MOTION FOR DEFAULT 

2005-10-27 011. DEFAULT ENTERED 

2005-10-27 012.CLERK'S CERTIFICATE 

2005-11-01 013. EMERGENCY VERIFED MOTION FOR CHILD PICK-UP ORDER 

2005-11-01 015.UNIFORM CHILD CUSTODY JURISDICTION/ENFORCEMENT AFFID. 

2005-11-01 016. ORDER SETTING ASIDE DEFAULT - EEH 

2005-11-01 017.ORDER OF REFERRAL TO GENERAL MAGISTRATE - EEH 

2005-11-01 .PETITION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY AND FOR RELATED RELIEF 

2005-11-01 .FILED BY PETITIONER 

2005-11-01 014.CERTFICATE OF COMPLETITION - CRYSTAL CUMMINGS 

2005-11-22 018. COPY - NOTICE OF HEARING - 12-01-05 @ 9:00 RMP 

2005-11-22 .PETITIONERS MOTION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY 

2005-12-01 019. FAMILY COURT MIN - PET. PRES, RESP. NOT PRES, 

2005-12-01 .C/S TO BE DETERMINED, SHARED PRIMARY RESIDENTAL WITH 

2005-12-01 .FATHER,. STANDARD AT FATHER DISCREATION, JUDICALLY 

2005-12-01 .RECOGNIZED 05-1354 -FD, RONALD CUMMINGS DECLARED LEGAL 

2005-12-01 .FATHER OF BOTH CHILDREN , SHARED PARENTAL RESPONSLIBILTY

2005-12-01 .WITH PRIMARY RESIDENTAL WITH FATHER, STANDARD 

2005-12-01 .VISITATION DISCRESTION OF FATHER IF SAFETY FOR THE 

2005-12-01 .CHILDREN CONCERNS ADVISE, 24 HRS NOTICE TO EXCERSISE 

2005-12-01 .VISITATION , MOTHER NOT TO REMOVE CHILDREN FROM THE 

2005-12-01 .STATE OF FLORIDA WITHOUT FATHERS WRITTN CONSENT OR 

2005-12-01 .FURTHER ORDER OF THE COURT 

2005-12-05 022.REPORT/RECOMMENDATION OF GENERAL MASTER-MP 

2005-12-05 .PET. FOUND TO BE FATHER OF MINOR CHILDREN, SHARED 

2005-12-05 .PARENTAL RESPONSLIBLITY, WITH PETITIONER HAVING 

2005-12-05 .PRIMARY RESIDENTAL CUSTODY, UNSUPERVISED VISITATION 

2005-12-05 .ACCORDING TO STANDARD VISITATION SCHEDULE, MOTHER TO 

2005-12-05 .PAY C/S OF $323/MTH TO BEGININING WHEN ORDER SIGNED 

2005-12-05 .BOTH PARTIES TO MAINTAIN MEDICAID INSURANCE ON BOTH 

2005-12-05 .CHILDREN 

2005-12-05 020. NOTICE OF CURRENT ADDRESS - CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD 

2005-12-05 021.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE - RESPONDENT 

2005-12-06 023. FAXED LETTER FROM RESPONDENT TO MAGISTRATE IN RE: 

2005-12-06 .REHEARING 

2005-12-08 024. RETURN TO SENDER - REPORT AND RECOMMEDATION - RESP. 

2005-12-13 025. NOTICE OF HEARING - 12-27-05 @ 10:30 RMP - PETITIONERS 

2005-12-13 .MOTION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY AND RELATED RELIEF 

2005-12-13 026. ORDER GRANTING MOTION FOR REHEARING - RMP - 

2005-12-27 027.CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION OF PARENTING CLASS 

2005-12-27 RESPONDENT 

2005-12-27 028.FAMILY COURT MINUTES 

2006-01-03 029.REPORT/RECOMMENDATION OF GEN.MAG. ON FJ OF PATERNITY 

2006-01-06 030. MOTION FOR REHEARING AND OBJECTION TO FINDINGS 

2006-01-06 OF MAGISTRATE 

2006-01-20 031.MOTION TO STRIKE OR DIMISS MOTION FOR REHEARING 

2006-01-20 AND OBJECTION TO FINDINGS OF MAGISTRATE-PETITIONER 

2006-01-24 032.NOTICE OF HEARING-HRG SET FOR 02/28/06 @ 1:30 

2006-01-24 EEH-COURTROOM 305 

2006-01-25 033.NOTICE OF HEARING-HRG SET FOR 02/28/06 @ 1:30-EEH 

2006-01-31 034.CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION-HUSBAND 

2006-02-28 035.FAMILY COURT MINUTES 

2006-03-02 036.NOTICE OF HEARING-SET FOR 04/06/06 @ 3:00 

2006-03-09 037.EMERGENCY MOTION FOR RETURN OF CHILDREN - PETITIONER 

2006-03-15 038.NOTICE OF HEARING - HRG SET FOR 03/21/06 @ 10:30 

2006-03-16 039.SUBPOENA FOR HEARING - HRG SET FOR 03/21/06 @ 10:30 

2006-03-16 SUBPOENA FOR: MICHAEL S WORD C/O WALMART DISTRIBUTION 

2006-03-16 CENTER 

2006-03-20 040.NOTICE OF FILING TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR 

2006-03-20 PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WITH MINOR 

2006-03-20 CHILDREN 

2006-03-21 041.FAMILY COURT MINUTES 

2006-03-22 042.ORDER ON EMERGENCY MOTION FOR RETURN OF CHILDREN 

2006-03-22 043.NOTICE OF FILING TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR 

2006-03-22 PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WITH MINOR 

2006-03-22 CHILDREN 

2006-04-04 044.NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING 

2006-04-12 045.NOTICE OF UN-AVAILABILITY-CHARLES BEHM-ESQUIRE 

2006-08-17 046.NOTICE OF HEARING - STATUS CONFERENCE 

2006-08-17 HRG SET FOR 10/04/06 @ 3:00 - EEH 

2006-10-04 047.FAMILY COURT MINUTES-PET NOT PRESENT-R MURPHY PRESENT 

2006-10-04 RESP NOT PRESENT-C BEHM PRESENT 

2006-12-28 048.NOTICE OF HEARING - HRG SET FOR 01/04/07 @ 3:30 

2007-01-04 049.NOTICE OF FILING TRANSCRIPT - RESPONDENT 

2007-01-26 050.NOTICE OF HEARING REGARDING OBJECTIONS TO FINDINGS 

2007-01-26 OF MAGISTRATE-HRG SET FOR 02/13/07 @ 2:00 - EEH 

2007-02-13 051.FAMILY COURT MINUTES PET PR RESP PR 

2007-02-22 052.NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY OF COUNSEL - BEHM 

2007-05-11 053.CORRESPONDENCE FROM NANCY GRIFFIS TO EEH 

2007-11-08 054.ORDER APPROVING REPORT/RECOMMENDATIONS OF MAGISTRATE 

2007-11-26 FL#200754636011 

2008-06-16 055.DOR INTERCEPT IN THE AMOUNT OF $48.00 ON 06/16/08 

2009-02-10 056.MOTION FOR CONTEMPT 03-27-09 AT 08:30 

2009-02-20 057.NOTICE OF DISMISSAL 

2009-03-17 058.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE - KIM PICAZIO FOR CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD

2009-03-20 059.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE-T JERRY SNIDER FOR FATHER 

2009-03-26 060.NOTICE OF PRODUCTION FROM NON-PARTY 

2009-04-06 061.OBJECTION TO NOTICE OF PRODUCTION FROM NON-PARTY 

2009-06-08 062.MEMO FROM FINANCE TO KIM PICAZIO: UNCOLLECTED FUNDS HOLD

2009-06-18 063.MEMO FROM FINANCE TO KIM PICAZIO: PAYMENT OF UNCOLLECTED

2009-06-18 FUNDS HOLD DUE TO IDENTIFY THEFT 

2009-07-08 064.NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY 

2009-07-14 065.AGREED ORDER ON CHILDRENS ISSUES - AWN 

2009-07-14 FL#200954681414 

2009-07-17 066.MOTION TO WITHDRAW - KIM PICAZIO/RESPONDENT 

2009-07-22 ----:NOTE TO FILE----(DKT#66) ATTORNEY TO SET HEARING 

2009-07-22 08/05/09 @ 11:00 BY PHONE - AWN ---- 

2009-07-27 067.NOTICE OF HEARING/AWN FOR 08/05/09 AT 11:00 

2009-07-29 068.CONSENT ON COUNSELS MOTION TO WITHDRAW-JERRY SNIDER 

2009-08-05 069.FAMILY COURT MINUTES 

2009-08-10 070.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE - CAROL CALDWELL FOR MOTHER 

2009-08-10 071.MOTHERS EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION FOR COUNSELING 

2009-08-10 FOR MINOR CHILD 

2009-08-17 072.NOTICE OF NON REPRESENTATION - T JERRY SNIDER FOR 

2009-08-17 RONALD CUMMINGS 


http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 18, 2009, 09:28:11 AM
remember when Cobra said that Ron was at the convience store about 2:30 and was suppose to have been talking to some girl in  the parking lot ? did anyone ever say who that girl was????

Cobra says a lot of stuff. I was annoyed with him on Sunday in his attempt to belittle Tim Miller, plus when he named lady friends of Tim.

It only showed the sleaziness of Cobra.
I didn't hear that, I wondered what was being said, what does that have to do with anything I wonder? Why would he even bring info like that up, maybe he is jealous.

I was disgusted with that show on Sunday.. Every week all sorts of stories just throwing crap out there... They can't even get some of the facts correct..Cobra making smart remarks about Tim.. Then Simon's comment :The question in my mind, and it has been there for many months, is Tim Miller all he says he is? Who the heck is he to question this man with a heart  who has a track record for finding the missing....

Then this from Simon...It was not till the end of the program that Tim Miller entered the story, but it is worth listening to. This might just want to make you rethink your next contribution! This might not make BNN popular, but one has to report it as it is told.

I don't need to rethink where my contributions will go... Tim Miller will certainly get my contributions...

God Bless Haleigh... ::MonkeyAngel::

http://www.bloggernews.net/121920








I'm with you JG~I NEVER listen to BNN after one time I heard all the silly giggling going on in the background with Ms Pickles during the Caylee case, that did it for me! But, I'm also with you on that this pizzed me off so much that I will be mailing another donation to TES just to show how counterproductive it is to try and disparage a man when all they do is offer their silly crap over the air and I've yet to hear about Simon, Jan or Ms Pickles out searching like TM and the members of TES. They absolutely disgust me ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 09:45:28 AM
So Amber is talking, now that will be interesting to here.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 18, 2009, 10:02:04 AM
So Amber is talking, now that will be interesting to here.

hopefully!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 18, 2009, 10:03:32 AM
Video: Haleigh Cummings' Grandmother Speaks Out

http://www.wesh.com/video/20439379/index.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 10:15:55 AM
Ronald Cummings' mother said she does not believe her daughter-in-law has misled investigators. Misty Croslin has a seventh-grade education, Teresa Neves said and should not be able to fool interrogators that have included FBI agents.

"She feels they are not being fair to her," Neves said Monday.      (Is the slam for Misty or for the interrogators?)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: ospainter on August 18, 2009, 11:15:29 AM


Heart

There was a misprint in that article, it has been corrected

http://www.wesh.com/news/20422695/detail.html

A candid update to the investigation into Haleigh's disappearance from her Satsuma home last February was released on the girl's sixth birthday. The Putnam County Sheriff's Office said that the work they have done so far minimizes the likelihood that Haleigh's disappearance is the work of a stranger.

OS

Thanks OS, I was hoping it was in error!

Good to see you.

Did you get a chance to attend any of the events for HaLeigh?

YW

Good to see you too.

No I wasn't able to attend.

OS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 18, 2009, 11:30:30 AM
Wonder what it will take for Misty to talk?  My personal opinion is that I'm surprised she already hasn't unless her fear of Ron is stopping her. Why else would be be uncooperative with LE?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 11:40:26 AM
Wonder what it will take for Misty to talk?  My personal opinion is that I'm surprised she already hasn't unless her fear of Ron is stopping her. Why else would be be uncooperative with LE?
Her fear of Ron is what I'm thinking also.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on August 18, 2009, 11:46:29 AM
Wonder what it will take for Misty to talk?  My personal opinion is that I'm surprised she already hasn't unless her fear of Ron is stopping her. Why else would be be uncooperative with LE?
Her fear of Ron is what I'm thinking also.
Me too.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 11:51:07 AM
This has been bothering me since yesterday, maybe I'm reading to much into it  ::MonkeyRoll::   Ron and Crystal were not considered suspects. But they did not come out and say that either one was cleared. And that Misty was not a suspect either.  ::MonkeyConfused:: That Misty can't or won't tell all she knows. Is it even remotely possible that Misty really doesn't know what happened, that she was sleeping deeply, maybe from drugs?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 18, 2009, 11:55:16 AM
This has been bothering me since yesterday, maybe I'm reading to much into it  ::MonkeyRoll::   Ron and Crystal were not considered suspects. But they did not come out and say that either one was cleared. And that Misty was not a suspect either.  ::MonkeyConfused:: That Misty can't or won't tell all she knows. Is it even remotely possible that Misty really doesn't know what happened, that she was sleeping deeply, maybe from drugs?

I don't put much stock into LE saying they are not considered suspects.  I've seen LE in many cases over the years say someone is not a suspect then arrest them later that day.  It just doesn't mean any more to me than they can't call them a suspect at this time.

LE saying Misty is not cooperative and needs to tell what she knows is much more telling to me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 11:58:29 AM
This has been bothering me since yesterday, maybe I'm reading to much into it  ::MonkeyRoll::   Ron and Crystal were not considered suspects. But they did not come out and say that either one was cleared. And that Misty was not a suspect either.  ::MonkeyConfused:: That Misty can't or won't tell all she knows. Is it even remotely possible that Misty really doesn't know what happened, that she was sleeping deeply, maybe from drugs?

I don't put much stock into LE saying they are not considered suspects.  I've seen LE in many cases over the years say someone is not a suspect then arrest them later that day.  It just doesn't mean any more to me than they can't call them a suspect at this time.

LE saying Misty is not cooperative and needs to tell what she knows is much more telling to me.
That is how I'm feeling about those statements also. LE has to be very careful with their words also, or at least it seems that way following so many cases.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 18, 2009, 11:59:51 AM
Wonder what it will take for Misty to talk?  My personal opinion is that I'm surprised she already hasn't unless her fear of Ron is stopping her. Why else would be be uncooperative with LE?

I think a list of who was visiting the mobile home the night/evening that HaLeigh went missing . And what is the complete accounting of  all the  physical evidence at the scene that contradicts Misty's sketchy account of her evening activities

And/or if true who was in the van with Misty, the evening she picked HaLeigh up from the school bus stop.

A clarification why LE was at the 116 Tyler address prior to arriving at HaLeigh's address 202 Green is needed.

Would Misty cover for Chad Griffis? No

Would she cover for Ronald? Possibly

Would she cover for any of the Croslins? Yes.

Would she cover for the Brooks?  If so, why?
Was the story put out by Nay, Nay and WBG the truth?

Would she cover for herself, and is she capable of fooling PCLE, FBI, and the Cummings family members?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 18, 2009, 12:04:47 PM
Out of curiosity, why HaLeigh instead of Haleigh?  Have I missed something, is it propper to capitalize the L?  I've noticed a few people doing it this way and wondered if I had missed the reason.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 18, 2009, 12:20:21 PM
http://www.artharris.com/2009/08/17/haleigh-cummings-mom-dad-cleared-but-not-misty/#more-2592

The grilling took place in the Putnam County Jail, before Misty and his grandmother put up the $12,500 bond to spring him, and revealed little that was new. Over dinner at MeMa’s restaurant in Satsuma five months ago, Ronald confided he worried that Misty knew more than she was telling, and for that reason, was keeping her close, in spite of her shenanigans.

The grilling took place in the Putnam County Jail, before Misty and his grandmother put up the $12,500 bond to spring him, and revealed little that was new. Over dinner at MeMa’s restaurant in Satsuma five months ago, Ronald confided he worried that Misty knew more than she was telling, and for that reason, was keeping her close, in spite of her shenanigans.

At the same time, he also confided he loved her
.[/b]

If you add the next line it makes more sense.

Thank you Idgie.  So sorry if I misled anyone with the part I snipped. 
I have concerns for Misty's safety if Ron finds out she had anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance.
I don't know what happened to Haleigh or who is responsible. 
I only hope the answers come soon.
 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 18, 2009, 12:27:49 PM
So Amber is talking, now that will be interesting to here.

I'm with you no rose.  I hope there is an update soon.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 18, 2009, 12:29:27 PM
http://www.artharris.com/2009/08/17/haleigh-cummings-mom-dad-cleared-but-not-misty/#more-2592

The grilling took place in the Putnam County Jail, before Misty and his grandmother put up the $12,500 bond to spring him, and revealed little that was new. Over dinner at MeMa’s restaurant in Satsuma five months ago, Ronald confided he worried that Misty knew more than she was telling, and for that reason, was keeping her close, in spite of her shenanigans.

The grilling took place in the Putnam County Jail, before Misty and his grandmother put up the $12,500 bond to spring him, and revealed little that was new. Over dinner at MeMa’s restaurant in Satsuma five months ago, Ronald confided he worried that Misty knew more than she was telling, and for that reason, was keeping her close, in spite of her shenanigans.

At the same time, he also confided he loved her
.[/b]

If you add the next line it makes more sense.

Thank you Idgie.  So sorry if I misled anyone with the part I snipped. 
I have concerns for Misty's safety if Ron finds out she had anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance.
I don't know what happened to Haleigh or who is responsible. 
I only hope the answers come soon.
 ::MonkeyAngel::

Cece - I agree!  I pray answers come soon.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 12:30:32 PM
Out of curiosity, why HaLeigh instead of Haleigh?  Have I missed something, is it propper to capitalize the L?  I've noticed a few people doing it this way and wondered if I had missed the reason.   ::MonkeyCool::
I remember this was brought up somewhere in my readings. I could swear that I read that is the way her name is spelled on the birth certificate, if I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will know the reason behind this  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 18, 2009, 12:32:58 PM
Out of curiosity, why HaLeigh instead of Haleigh?  Have I missed something, is it propper to capitalize the L?  I've noticed a few people doing it this way and wondered if I had missed the reason.   ::MonkeyCool::

According to some of the documents in the civil proceedings the L is capitalized in HaLeigh's name and also from a press interview of one of HaLeigh's aunts in Baker county that I read, the aunt stressed that the L is capitalized.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 18, 2009, 12:34:14 PM
Out of curiosity, why HaLeigh instead of Haleigh?  Have I missed something, is it propper to capitalize the L?  I've noticed a few people doing it this way and wondered if I had missed the reason.   ::MonkeyCool::

According to some of the documents in the civil proceedings the L is capitalized in HaLeigh's name and also from a press interview of one of HaLeigh's aunts in Baker county that I read, the aunt stressed that the L is capitalized.

Thanks, I was wondering about that  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 12:37:00 PM
Out of curiosity, why HaLeigh instead of Haleigh?  Have I missed something, is it propper to capitalize the L?  I've noticed a few people doing it this way and wondered if I had missed the reason.   ::MonkeyCool::

According to some of the documents in the civil proceedings the L is capitalized in HaLeigh's name and also from a press interview of one of HaLeigh's aunts in Baker county that I read, the aunt stressed that the L is capitalized.
Thank-you  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 18, 2009, 12:51:31 PM
Wonder why they didn't make sure the "L" was capitalized on the t-shirt? 

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/HaleighTshirt.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 18, 2009, 12:55:51 PM
Wonder why they didn't make sure the "L" was capitalized on the t-shirt? 

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/HaleighTshirt.jpg)

I see, it's Crystal's side of the family that is saying capital "L" not Ronald's side. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 18, 2009, 01:00:40 PM
Wonder why they didn't make sure the "L" was capitalized on the t-shirt? 

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/HaleighTshirt.jpg)

I don't have the answer to that one.  Some of the civil docs the L is not capitalized, and on others it is.

It maybe the result of who placed the order, or who took the order.

On researching some of the on-line docs for various individuals I have ran across errors in some names.

My son has a common name, however it is spelled uncommonly.  So 90% of the time, unless one brings it to attention, it is not the way my son's name is spelled.

And lol, I did not choose  his first name, my sister did.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 18, 2009, 01:05:38 PM
Wonder why they didn't make sure the "L" was capitalized on the t-shirt? 

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/HaleighTshirt.jpg)

I see, it's Crystal's side of the family that is saying capital "L" not Ronald's side. 

Right!

I know some family members although they have the same last name they spell it differently.  I think that goes way back.  I believe that I see it as well in researching the ancestry in some of the players in this case.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 01:11:43 PM
Does anyone have ideas why the tee shirts say possible abduction?  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 18, 2009, 01:22:14 PM
Hi Monkeys.

I would like to say a few words and hope you all don't mind.I will be taking a break from posting for a while after this, I just need time. I came here just now to let you all know my thoughts and feelings. I have been silent for I suppose 2 days now,yesterday and today.

Dad has ended his final journey as of 10:30 a.m yesterday he is in his final resting place at the veterans national cemetery in Florida. Though he has been gone for a few months now, yesterday made it so final. I sit here, the gun shots echoing in my mind with TAPS being played and though I am sad dads life journey is over  I am thankful as well, he can rest in peace now,where he wanted to be in the end,with his fellow service members. I am sad though at the same time. HaLeigh's journey is such chaos, it is a big mess. There are so many lies being posted in so many places. This baby girl clearly loves her Mother and Father and so far both have been attacked on so many forums. No matter what we think of them, they are her parents and I just do not think she would be happy with what is being said about them. This entire case has become more about who is right or wrong about which parent and about the parents and family in general, it has been made into the not so comedy comedy hour when it comes to her family. HaLeigh's journey, when will the status of her journey be known, is she still on her journey or has it ended and she is waiting to be at her final resting place? I am thankful I know where dad is and the status of his journey, but my heart aches for the family members that love HaLeigh so very much but have to wonder where her life journey has taken her. I know you are wondering how Ron's family can support Misty, maybe I can help in that aspect,I see it like this, for them to accept that she is not telling all, is equivalent to accepting there was no abduction,accepting that there was no abduction is equivalent to accepting that Misty has done something drastic to her which may have taken her life,accepting that is admitting they will never see HaLeigh's beautiful smile again nor hear her laughter ever again, no more HaLeigh hugs or snuggles, none of it, they would be admitting and accepting that they will never see her again, could you do that if it were your grandchild?  I think as long as they are looking at it as an abduction, they have hope she will come home alive. I think her family want so badly to believe Misty because it keeps hope alive and I can not and will not fault them for that. Dad had a 21 gun salute,TAPS and the military thanking on behalf of president for his service and all at the end of his journey and I will never forget it. I wonder, where is HaLeigh and is she still making her merry way on her journey or is it over? If it is over, what did or will she have at the end of her journey. Where is precious HaLeigh ? I pray her life journey is not over but just begun and that she lives a very long and happy life. Just remember, the people being spoken of are the people HaLeigh loves the most in life and consider that when saying things, maybe harshness will be replaced with kindness and things will come to light. Sometimes we have to look beyond the frame to get the full picture. Have a good day Monkeys and I will be thinking of you all. I will be back when I am feeling better.

Hugs to all and Praying for HaLeigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on August 18, 2009, 01:23:15 PM
Does anyone have ideas why the tee shirts say possible abduction?  ::MonkeyConfused::
Did you notice No Rose, that Kid Finders Network is on the shirt?  ::MonkeyDevil2:: Maybe that is the reason for the word "Possible" was used.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on August 18, 2009, 01:27:50 PM
Searching beautiful post. God Bless. JSM  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 01:40:42 PM
Does anyone have ideas why the tee shirts say possible abduction?  ::MonkeyConfused::
Did you notice No Rose, that Kid Finders Network is on the shirt?  ::MonkeyDevil2:: Maybe that is the reason for the word "Possible" was used.  ::MonkeyConfused::
I did not notice that  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 18, 2009, 01:42:20 PM
Does anyone have ideas why the tee shirts say possible abduction?  ::MonkeyConfused::
Did you notice No Rose, that Kid Finders Network is on the shirt?  ::MonkeyDevil2:: Maybe that is the reason for the word "Possible" was used.  ::MonkeyConfused::

It looks to me like it is the kid finders flier printed on the shirt.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 18, 2009, 01:43:23 PM
Searching beautiful post. God Bless. JSM  ::MonkeyAngel::

Thank you JSM, Have missed seeing you.

Hugs to all, I am going to lay back down now.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 18, 2009, 01:54:21 PM
HaLeigh's Balloon Release

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=491752182&albumId=684783&page=2


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on August 18, 2009, 01:54:51 PM
Does anyone have ideas why the tee shirts say possible abduction?  ::MonkeyConfused::
Did you notice No Rose, that Kid Finders Network is on the shirt?  ::MonkeyDevil2:: Maybe that is the reason for the word "Possible" was used.  ::MonkeyConfused::
I did not notice that  ::MonkeyEek::
That was the first thing that popped out at me when Klaas posted the picture. The KFN badge on the right.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on August 18, 2009, 01:56:53 PM
Searching beautiful post. God Bless. JSM  ::MonkeyAngel::

Thank you JSM, Have missed seeing you.

Hugs to all, I am going to lay back down now.
Missed seeing you. Get some rest. Hugs


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 02:26:32 PM
Searching, I'm glad that your father had such a wonderful service yesterday, I'm sure that meant a lot to you and your entire family  ::MonkeyAngel::  I have no doubt in my mind that Haleigh loves her mom and dad, and they love her. Haleigh perhaps loves Misty also. I just wish that either Ron or one of his family members would encourage Misty to speak again with LE. In my eyes not knowing is worse then knowing. At least for me I would want to know and not just speculate and drive myself insane wondering.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 18, 2009, 02:32:22 PM
Searching, I'm glad that your father had such a wonderful service yesterday, I'm sure that meant a lot to you and your entire family  ::MonkeyAngel::  I have no doubt in my mind that Haleigh loves her mom and dad, and they love her. Haleigh perhaps loves Misty also. I just wish that either Ron or one of his family members would encourage Misty to speak again with LE. In my eyes not knowing is worse then knowing. At least for me I would want to know and not just speculate and drive myself insane wondering.

Me too NRCG~I know that at least I have the peace knowing Eli is in heaven  ::MonkeyAngel:: and I don't worry non-stop about him being hurt, scared, hungry, tired, sick etc.......I know he is perfect and loved. I only wish the same for Haleigh's family and seeing that Misty holds that key, anyone and everyone on that side of the family has a duty to see tha she tells all, if they don't-well then I have to wonder about their motives ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 02:36:07 PM
Yes, for me also I would just need to know, the unknown is very frightening to me. No matter the outcome. I have no idea why more pressure isn't put on Misty, I just don't get it. There has to be a reason why they aren't putting more pressure on Misty  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 18, 2009, 02:52:40 PM
The little that Misty was questioned, she probably put on a big stressed-out act. Actually, her last questioning was 9 hr if I recall correctly, and during that session she was very inconsistent.  Guess she has trouble even sticking to the "story".   I doubt if ever she can repair her class act in inconsistency.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 18, 2009, 02:59:07 PM
Does anyone have ideas why the tee shirts say possible abduction?  ::MonkeyConfused::
Did you notice No Rose, that Kid Finders Network is on the shirt?  ::MonkeyDevil2:: Maybe that is the reason for the word "Possible" was used.  ::MonkeyConfused::

Yes, those are KidFinders created t-shirts. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 18, 2009, 03:20:49 PM
Searching,

Excellent post, and my thoughts go out to you.

You hit on the main reason I took a long hiatus from this thread. I could not let yesterday pass without my coming back and wishing Haleigh a Happy Birthday.

I am still not sure whether I am ready to come back here and post on a daily basis. I have been following the case (what there has been to follow) on my own. No forums, (including this one) just reading what I could find by researching on my own.

I so agree with you that Haleigh would not like to see the attacks people have made on her family. Attacking the family and each other does not bring Haleigh home and is not why I was an active member here in this thread for so long.

I did, however read yesterday's posts here for the first time in a very long time. Heart, thank you for posting the link with pictures of Haleigh that I have not seen before.

It inspired me to make a new Missing image for Haleigh. (I have been making them while away, just not posting them anywhere.) But with the new images Heart pointed out, it inspired me again to post and share with you all. (For those few who do not like the fact that I have been making and posting these, please just scroll past them. It seems as if the majority of people here have wanted them posted.)

I still have hope that Haleigh is alive and will come home.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 18, 2009, 03:23:13 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing97.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on August 18, 2009, 03:34:21 PM
Does anyone have ideas why the tee shirts say possible abduction?  ::MonkeyConfused::
Did you notice No Rose, that Kid Finders Network is on the shirt?  ::MonkeyDevil2:: Maybe that is the reason for the word "Possible" was used.  ::MonkeyConfused::

Yes, those are KidFinders created t-shirts. 
Thanks Klaas.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 03:35:24 PM
Pretty pic of Haleigh that you made Brandi  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 03:39:39 PM
I had no idea that Kidfinders was still involved in Haleigh's case  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 18, 2009, 03:40:08 PM
Yes, for me also I would just need to know, the unknown is very frightening to me. No matter the outcome. I have no idea why more pressure isn't put on Misty, I just don't get it. There has to be a reason why they aren't putting more pressure on Misty  ::MonkeyNoNo::

ITA~but the only reasonable answer I can come up with for the Cummings to be covering for her also means she is covering for them.........IYKWIM ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 18, 2009, 03:42:27 PM
I had no idea that Kidfinders was still involved in Haleigh's case  ::MonkeyEek::
\

Me either, nor can I see the photos of the t-shirts until I get the laptop back......until then I'm reading all 700+ pages of discovery in the Billings case ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 03:46:53 PM
Yes, for me also I would just need to know, the unknown is very frightening to me. No matter the outcome. I have no idea why more pressure isn't put on Misty, I just don't get it. There has to be a reason why they aren't putting more pressure on Misty  ::MonkeyNoNo::

ITA~but the only reasonable answer I can come up with for the Cummings to be covering for her also means she is covering for them.........IYKWIM ::MonkeyTongue::
Yes, nothing else seems to make sense.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 18, 2009, 03:54:02 PM
http://www.wesh.com/video/20439379/index.html

Michelle Meredith's report from the 11 PM news yesterday.

I had not seen it. Hope this is not a repost.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Tams on August 18, 2009, 04:08:20 PM
Hello fellow monkeys!

Just a few thoughts that have been brewing as I have tried to digest all of the crazy antics and even crazier cast of characters in this case:

• IMO, seems pretty clear that little Miss Misty either was not there or was in a drug-induced sleep/coma after her wild weekend. She is afraid to admit to this, not only because she knows what Ronnie boy will do to her, but because his family has seemed to love her and take her in unconditionally - she does not want to lose that. (It may be the most 'stability' and closest to family life that she has had; I believe we have heard that she had bounced around living in numerous places prior to living with Ronald.) All of this combined with her lack of education makes her easily manipulated as well - most certainly by her lovely new husband (just the way he likes it).

• Conversely, via the rough and weathered crowd she hangs out with, Misty has observed and learned the art of manipulation herself - albeit the redneck style prevalent in this crowd of young uneducated, unemployed junkies with apparently no conscience or morals, not to mention a care about any sort of future. Their motives and reasoning are juvenile and rash, with no grasp of consequences. The drama they create in their lives is based upon the most basic of things: I want/need drugs. How am I going to get them? Who will I get to help me?

• Ergo . . . being "with" Ronald appears to mean that one will not have to worry about these things; somehow he takes care of it all (with help from Mom and Grandma, of course). A place to live, food to eat, and drug connections. Not to mention of course that he will protect you - he does after all have guns and a well-known temper (and apparently ways of never being jailed when you get caught...) What a prize in this ragtag band of miscreants!

• Misty has loudly and publicly demeaned Amber with taunts of "now he's mine" and "your child with him is +++++++" (redneck term - not mine) - after Amber had invested time in living with Ronald and helping to raise his kids. Now she's stuck alone and drug dependent with a special needs child. What would someone in this situation with her mindset in this underbelly of society choose to do next? Hmmmmmmm . . . . My guess based on Amber's constant visits to jail of late and the crazed look in her arrest photos . . . . she would want to get even. Retaliate. "I'll show you!"

• Amber knew firsthand about Misty's party weekend. She also knows firsthand about the effects of drug binging for days; one either literally passes out or desperately needs another fix.

• Amber could well share the same drug connections as Misty; she could know either via seeing her or through the connections that Misty was out on Sunday night, not at home with the sleeping kids.

• Amber could be squealing about the above . . . OR, perhaps is diabolical/desperate enough to have chosen the above scenario as the perfect time to get even.

All just thoughts brewing - all IMO only. Where it could go from there - where little Haleigh is now, I do not know. A start maybe though?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 18, 2009, 04:55:48 PM
Brandi,  That is an adorable pic of Haleigh.  You have talent!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 04:59:45 PM
Tams, very interesting. Amber would certainly want retaliation, after Misty stole her man and said those things about her baby. I just can't imagine Amber having the brains to do this, but I suppose drug induced anger and a little help she could.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 18, 2009, 05:46:37 PM
Beautiful pic Brandi.

Welcome back!

And thank you for the picture of HaLeigh!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 18, 2009, 05:56:33 PM
Police: Baby Sitter's Help Needed in Case of Missing Girl


(http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=LL&Date=20090817&Category=NEWS&ArtNo=908175080&Ref=AR&Profile=1374&MaxW=600&border=0)
Marking the 6th birthday of missing Haleigh Cummings, her father, Ronald Cummings, and grandmother, Teresa Neves, talked to reporters Monday in Orlando.

By RON WORD
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Published: Monday, August 17, 2009 at 11:34 p.m.
Last Modified: Monday, August 17, 2009 at 11:34 p.m.

JACKSONVILLE | Putnam County investigators say they don't think that Misty Croslin-Cummings has been straight with them as they continue to investigate the disappearance six months ago of Haleigh Cummings from her father's home in Satsuma.


In a news release marking the child's sixth birthday Monday, investigators said the child's biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, were not suspects.

But for the first time, they said they don't think Haleigh was abducted by a stranger. They said Misty Croslin, who was baby-sitting the girl when she vanished from her father's mobile home in February, "continues to hold important answers in the case."

"She has failed to provide any sort of detailed accounting of the hours during the late evening and early morning of Haleigh's disappearance. Furthermore, physical evidence at the scenecontradicts Misty's sketchy account of her evening activities."

Croslin married Cummings about a month after Haleigh's disappearance. Their telephone in Welaka has been disconnected and it is not known whether Croslin has a lawyer.

According to the news release, investigators have received more than 4,000 leads, all of which have been followed up.

They have conducted 138 formal interviews and several hundred informal ones.

DNA samples were collected from many of those interviewed.

The Florida Department of Law Enforcement processed the crime scene and did analysis on DNA and fingerprint evidence, none of which has identified a suspect.

Thousands of acres have been searched by air, on foot and by horseback.

Divers have combed the water areas near where Haleigh disappeared.

"Sheriff (Jeff) Hardy wants to assure the public, but mainly Haleigh's family, that we will continue to aggressively pursue this case," the news release said.

Also Monday, a Texas-based search group said it would conduct another search for Haleigh Cummings.

Tim Miller, director of Texas EquuSearch, said the 50 group members and volunteers would search in four to six weeks.

He said he thinks weather and vegetation conditions will be more conducive to finding the girl.

http://www.theledger.com/article/20090817/NEWS/908175080/1374?Title=Police-Baby-Sitter-s-Help-Needed-in-Case-of-Missing-Girl


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 18, 2009, 06:01:27 PM
Oh my God!  It occurred to me that there could be parallels with the Anthony saga.  Misty claims the child went missing under her nose, cannot provide a timeline, is vague, and stops talking.  All the while, during Ron's absence Misty knows what happened to the child.  Her motive may easily be infantile, like wanting to get all the attention that the child gets.  Child vs. child bride.  But she's not talking and has hired lawyer.  Not terribly normal.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 06:03:01 PM
Oh my God!  It occurred to me that there could be parallels with the Anthony saga.  Misty claims the child went missing under her nose, cannot provide a timeline, is vague, and stops talking.  All the while, during Ron's absence Misty knows what happened to the child.  Her motive may easily be infantile, like wanting to get all the attention that the child gets.  Child vs. child bride.  But she's not talking and has hired lawyer.  Not terribly normal.
Could very well be  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 18, 2009, 06:19:43 PM
Oh my God!  It occurred to me that there could be parallels with the Anthony saga.  Misty claims the child went missing under her nose, cannot provide a timeline, is vague, and stops talking.  All the while, during Ron's absence Misty knows what happened to the child.  Her motive may easily be infantile, like wanting to get all the attention that the child gets.  Child vs. child bride.  But she's not talking and has hired lawyer.  Not terribly normal.
The same thing had crossed my mind too....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 18, 2009, 06:54:46 PM
Poster Ger has some pics up at Hearts For Haleigh

http://haleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/index.php?topic=197.0


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 06:55:56 PM
Poster Ger has some pics up at Hearts For Haleigh

http://haleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/index.php?topic=197.0
Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: ospainter on August 18, 2009, 07:53:28 PM
Hi Everyone,

Just wanted to let you know

Teresa Neves and Mark NeJame will be on the Today show tomorrow morning.

OS



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 07:57:21 PM
Hi Everyone,

Just wanted to let you know

Teresa Neves and Mark NeJame will be on the Today show tomorrow morning.

OS


Thanks


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: ospainter on August 18, 2009, 07:58:52 PM
Hi Everyone,

Just wanted to let you know

Teresa Neves and Mark NeJame will be on the Today show tomorrow morning.

OS


Thanks

Your welcome

OS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: ospainter on August 18, 2009, 08:01:00 PM
NG is covering HaLeigh case right now.

OS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 18, 2009, 08:01:58 PM
Nancy Grace discussing HaLeigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 18, 2009, 08:03:16 PM
Hi Everyone,

Just wanted to let you know

Teresa Neves and Mark NeJame will be on the Today show tomorrow morning.

OS



Thank you OS!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 18, 2009, 08:14:38 PM
TJ Hart on NG so far has nothing new.  He is still talking about no force entry, no damage to the door. Nancy informed Hart well we know that. We've known that since day one.

Annette Sykes on NG said that they never thought it was a stranger abduction. They thought that someone could have followed HaLeigh home, they had to know where HaLeigh lived.

Godashey (sp?):  The LE is informing Misty to go get a lawyer, and let them help you create a timeline.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 18, 2009, 08:17:13 PM
Annette Sykes on NG ....someone followed Haleigh home? WTH she was 5 followed her from where? and they said that they picked her up from the bus stop.....didn't they live on a dead end street?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: alagary on August 18, 2009, 08:18:47 PM
Wish my TV had an ignore for when that whinney punk is talking


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 18, 2009, 08:21:14 PM
TJ Hart on NG so far has nothing new.  He is still talking about no force entry, no damage to the door. Nancy informed Hart well we know that. We've known that since day one.

Annette Sykes on NG said that they never thought it was a stranger abduction. They thought that someone could have followed HaLeigh home, they had to know where HaLeigh lived.

Godashey (sp?):  The LE is informing Misty to go get a lawyer, and let them help you create a timeline.

Thanks for the updates, Heart. (I left you a post at http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4314.msg913173#msg913173)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 18, 2009, 08:21:28 PM
Ron did his interview with his mom.....sykes on Ng.... and Teresa  on today show tommorrow....wonder when we will here from Misty????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 08:22:23 PM
Annette Sykes on NG ....someone followed Haleigh home? WTH she was 5 followed her from where? and they said that they picked her up from the bus stop.....didn't they live on a dead end street?
I have no idea, and I thought Misty picked her up in the van, and a witness said Misty went a different direction not towards the mobile home.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 18, 2009, 08:25:20 PM
nothing makes sense in this case....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 18, 2009, 08:26:20 PM
Annette Sykes on NG ....someone followed Haleigh home? WTH she was 5 followed her from where? and they said that they picked her up from the bus stop.....didn't they live on a dead end street?
I have no idea, and I thought Misty picked her up in the van, and a witness said Misty went a different direction not towards the mobile home.

Geeze why are their stories changing now... I can help but say this.. Its sounds like another case in Florida.. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 08:29:20 PM
Annette Sykes on NG ....someone followed Haleigh home? WTH she was 5 followed her from where? and they said that they picked her up from the bus stop.....didn't they live on a dead end street?
I have no idea, and I thought Misty picked her up in the van, and a witness said Misty went a different direction not towards the mobile home.

Geeze why are their stories changing now... I can help but say this.. Its sounds like another case in Florida.. ::MonkeyNoNo::
I'm thinking the same thing.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 18, 2009, 08:32:10 PM
I thought that they said that the phone in Welaka was disconnected I guess sykes could be on a cell phone...wonder if Ron and Misty are there beside her?.......guilty or innocent I bet Misty is about to crap herself.....that seems to be the going answer stumble around and then say I don't know?........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 18, 2009, 08:35:49 PM
I thought that they said that the phone in Welaka was disconnected I guess sykes could be on a cell phone...wonder if Ron and Misty are there beside her?.......guilty or innocent I bet Misty is about to crap herself.....that seems to be the going answer stumble around and then say I don't know?........

Misty lives with GGma Sykes .. and Sykes says she does not know what Misty said to LE? I find that hard to believe.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 18, 2009, 08:36:44 PM
I thought that they said that the phone in Welaka was disconnected I guess sykes could be on a cell phone...wonder if Ron and Misty are there beside her?.......guilty or innocent I bet Misty is about to crap herself.....that seems to be the going answer stumble around and then say I don't know?........

Misty lives with GGma Sykes .. and Sykes says she does not know what Misty said to LE? I find that hard to believe.

I agree Brandi.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 08:37:02 PM
I thought that they said that the phone in Welaka was disconnected I guess sykes could be on a cell phone...wonder if Ron and Misty are there beside her?.......guilty or innocent I bet Misty is about to crap herself.....that seems to be the going answer stumble around and then say I don't know?........

Misty lives with GGma Sykes .. and Sykes says she does not know what Misty said to LE? I find that hard to believe.
Me too  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 18, 2009, 08:40:34 PM
TJ Hart on NG so far has nothing new.  He is still talking about no force entry, no damage to the door. Nancy informed Hart well we know that. We've known that since day one.

Annette Sykes on NG said that they never thought it was a stranger abduction. They thought that someone could have followed HaLeigh home, they had to know where HaLeigh lived.

Godashey (sp?):  The LE is informing Misty to go get a lawyer, and let them help you create a timeline.

NG say you have a problem when you ask someone why they did something and they say I don't know, you have a problem referring to Misty and her Today interview.

Mark Klaas: Misty's story shifts, she needs to tell the truth, she does not need a lawyer, she just needs to tell the truth and help find Haleigh.

Panelist: Misty  is detaching herself when she refers to HaLeigh as that little girl. And her body language speaks volumes.

Annette Sykes respondes to NG's question of what she thought about LE's statement regarding Misty:   I'm not sure what Misty has told LE. I don't know.

NG: By LE asking for anyone to come forth if they saw Misty somewhere other than at home that night suggests everything that Misty has said is a lie.

Panelist:  LE are trying to smoke Misty out.

Detective Stephen Rogers:  From day one police thought that Misty had something to do with it.

NG:  LE is making a statement loud and clear.  It was no stranger abduction.



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Post by: my2cents on August 18, 2009, 08:42:32 PM
well the statement from LE sure has flushed everyone out and back to the airways.....wonder if Misty will try to run???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 18, 2009, 08:44:02 PM
Annette Sykes on NG ....someone followed Haleigh home? WTH she was 5 followed her from where? and they said that they picked her up from the bus stop.....didn't they live on a dead end street?
I have no idea, and I thought Misty picked her up in the van, and a witness said Misty went a different direction not towards the mobile home.
I don't think that Sykes was talking about that particular day that HaLeigh went missing that some one followed her home.  I believe she was stating previously.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 18, 2009, 08:46:20 PM
I thought that they said that the phone in Welaka was disconnected I guess sykes could be on a cell phone...wonder if Ron and Misty are there beside her?.......guilty or innocent I bet Misty is about to crap herself.....that seems to be the going answer stumble around and then say I don't know?........

Misty lives with GGma Sykes .. and Sykes says she does not know what Misty said to LE? I find that hard to believe.

I think that question caught Sykes off guard and she mumbled and bumbled through a response.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 18, 2009, 08:47:12 PM
So are they implying that she went places by herself? she was five years old....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 18, 2009, 08:48:56 PM
Annette Sykes on NG ....someone followed Haleigh home? WTH she was 5 followed her from where? and they said that they picked her up from the bus stop.....didn't they live on a dead end street?
I have no idea, and I thought Misty picked her up in the van, and a witness said Misty went a different direction not towards the mobile home.
I don't think that Sykes was talking about that particular day that HaLeigh went missing that some one followed her home.  I believe she was stating previously.

Why is it so hard for them to see that Misty has told to many inconsistancies stories.. Why do they keep on making excuses for Misty... What are they hiding , concealing or protecting and why? JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 18, 2009, 08:49:32 PM
I thought that they said that the phone in Welaka was disconnected I guess sykes could be on a cell phone...wonder if Ron and Misty are there beside her?.......guilty or innocent I bet Misty is about to crap herself.....that seems to be the going answer stumble around and then say I don't know?........

I thought that the reporter that wrote that was referring to Misty and Ron's phone.

After all they do not have jobs, so no money for cell phone payments.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 08:50:06 PM
So are they implying that she went places by herself? she was five years old....
Since LE has stated they don't believe it was a stranger abduction, I guess a family member or a friend of a family member must have followed her home  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 08:51:49 PM
Annette Sykes on NG ....someone followed Haleigh home? WTH she was 5 followed her from where? and they said that they picked her up from the bus stop.....didn't they live on a dead end street?
I have no idea, and I thought Misty picked her up in the van, and a witness said Misty went a different direction not towards the mobile home.
I don't think that Sykes was talking about that particular day that HaLeigh went missing that some one followed her home.  I believe she was stating previously.

Why is it so hard for them to see that Misty has told to many inconsistancies stories.. Why do they keep on making excuses for Misty... What are they hiding , concealing or protecting and why? JMO
Must be pretty big, otherwise grandma would give her the heave ho out the front door, at least that is what I would do.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 18, 2009, 08:53:58 PM
I thought that they said that the phone in Welaka was disconnected I guess sykes could be on a cell phone...wonder if Ron and Misty are there beside her?.......guilty or innocent I bet Misty is about to crap herself.....that seems to be the going answer stumble around and then say I don't know?........

I thought that the reporter that wrote that was referring to Misty and Ron's phone.

After all they do not have jobs, so no money for cell phone payments.
That is possible.....I guess that Misty could have used the house phone to call her brother


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 18, 2009, 08:54:58 PM
Annette Sykes on NG ....someone followed Haleigh home? WTH she was 5 followed her from where? and they said that they picked her up from the bus stop.....didn't they live on a dead end street?
I have no idea, and I thought Misty picked her up in the van, and a witness said Misty went a different direction not towards the mobile home.
I don't think that Sykes was talking about that particular day that HaLeigh went missing that some one followed her home.  I believe she was stating previously.

Why is it so hard for them to see that Misty has told to many inconsistancies stories.. Why do they keep on making excuses for Misty... What are they hiding , concealing or protecting and why? JMO
My question exactly...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 18, 2009, 08:55:46 PM
So are they implying that she went places by herself? she was five years old....

No, Sykes did not mean that HaLeigh was out and about by herself.

#1 she was attempting to throw scenarios out of what could have happpened.

#2 what Sykes was trying to say is that someone could have spotted HaLeigh out with family members and followed her home.  She did state that they did not think that it was a stranger and that the person had to know where HaLeigh lived.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 18, 2009, 08:56:52 PM
So are they implying that she went places by herself? she was five years old....
Since LE has stated they don't believe it was a stranger abduction, I guess a family member or a friend of a family member must have followed her home  ::MonkeyConfused::

Or it's not an abduction at all, just like Caylee Anthony was not an abduction.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 09:00:34 PM
So are they implying that she went places by herself? she was five years old....
Since LE has stated they don't believe it was a stranger abduction, I guess a family member or a friend of a family member must have followed her home  ::MonkeyConfused::

Or it's not an abduction at all, just like Caylee Anthony was not an abduction.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Yes


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 18, 2009, 09:02:51 PM
So are they implying that she went places by herself? she was five years old....
Since LE has stated they don't believe it was a stranger abduction, I guess a family member or a friend of a family member must have followed her home  ::MonkeyConfused::

Or it's not an abduction at all, just like Caylee Anthony was not an abduction.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Yes

All I have to say is Here We Go Again...  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 18, 2009, 09:06:36 PM
So are they implying that she went places by herself? she was five years old....

No, Sykes did not mean that HaLeigh was out and about by herself.

#1 she was attempting to throw scenarios out of what could have happpened.

#2 what Sykes was trying to say is that someone could have spotted HaLeigh out with family members and followed her home.  She did state that they did not think that it was a stranger and that the person had to know where HaLeigh lived.
I guess anything is possible but that person sure lucked out then having the backdoor open and Misty passed out or not at home and no cosistent timeline to defend herself with....I think that they are just grasping at straws or they are trying to cover something up....JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on August 18, 2009, 09:17:01 PM
So are they implying that she went places by herself? she was five years old....
Since LE has stated they don't believe it was a stranger abduction, I guess a family member or a friend of a family member must have followed her home  ::MonkeyConfused::

Or it's not an abduction at all, just like Caylee Anthony was not an abduction.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Hi Klaas, just putting my two cents in, but the pic you posted today said "POSSIBLE abduction". When I saw that word "possible" it sent my hinky meter off. JMO JSM


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 18, 2009, 09:19:12 PM
So are they implying that she went places by herself? she was five years old....

No, Sykes did not mean that HaLeigh was out and about by herself.

#1 she was attempting to throw scenarios out of what could have happpened.

#2 what Sykes was trying to say is that someone could have spotted HaLeigh out with family members and followed her home.  She did state that they did not think that it was a stranger and that the person had to know where HaLeigh lived.
I guess anything is possible but that person sure lucked out then having the backdoor open and Misty passed out or not at home and no cosistent timeline to defend herself with....I think that they are just grasping at straws or they are trying to cover something up....JMO

Like Zanny, grasping at straws.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 18, 2009, 09:21:50 PM
So are they implying that she went places by herself? she was five years old....
Since LE has stated they don't believe it was a stranger abduction, I guess a family member or a friend of a family member must have followed her home  ::MonkeyConfused::

Or it's not an abduction at all, just like Caylee Anthony was not an abduction.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Hi Klaas, just putting my two cents in, but the pic you posted today said "POSSIBLE abduction". When I saw that word "possible" it sent my hinky meter off. JMO JSM

I believe the "Possible Abduction" comes from the KidFindersNetwork and nothing really official.  I don't really read much into it.  I have little respect for KFN.

But good point about saying possible.  What else could it be?  Either she was abducted, wandered off, or she was harmed. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 18, 2009, 09:24:05 PM
It will be interesting to see how many TV talk shows they will be on and how they answer some of the questions and what theories they have on Haleigh gone missing.. ::MonkeyTongue::

God Bless Haleigh.. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 18, 2009, 09:29:19 PM
It will be interesting to see how many TV talk shows they will be on and how they answer some of the questions and what theories they have on Haleigh gone missing.. ::MonkeyTongue::

God Bless Haleigh.. ::MonkeyAngel::
Yes it will...I bet we don't see them on Geraldo...Greta went pretty easy on them maybe they will choose her show....and I like Greta don't get me wrong


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 18, 2009, 09:31:42 PM
It will be interesting to see how many TV talk shows they will be on and how they answer some of the questions and what theories they have on Haleigh gone missing.. ::MonkeyTongue::

God Bless Haleigh.. ::MonkeyAngel::
Yes it will...I bet we don't see them on Geraldo...Greta went pretty easy on them maybe they will choose her show....and I like Greta don't get me wrong

Teresea neves supposed to be on the today show tomorrow I hope some post what was said for the ones who have to work...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 18, 2009, 09:34:37 PM
I know .....any volunteers for posting ??? ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 18, 2009, 09:35:54 PM
Misty needs to talk! my personal opinion is that she was not at the home when Haleigh went missing and that is what she is hiding...I don't feel that she harmed Haleigh herself or any other family member did either...someone was watching that house, Misty's routine possibly and when the moment was right, went in and took Haleigh...jmo....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 18, 2009, 09:40:42 PM
A possibility is homicide.  Most likely by Ron's drug rages, but could also be Misty, probably intentional homicide with Misty.  Haleigh after all, lived in a dangerous household, and granny wasn't there then that I know of.  Ron and Misty will cover up for each other.  Misty is afraid of questioning because her memory was/is hazy when under the influence.  She doesn't want to admit to that, hence her inconsistencies, and besides she's not too bright to begin with.  It's so very sad seeing abused children living in depths of redneck (sorry) crude druggie society.  Children have to learn from early on to fend for themselves, for there are no adults around.  Their mothers are terrified of their fathers, and their fathers just are not mentally their, due to drugs.  Children must live with drugged out whiners, unwilling to seek employment or to work when provided with work.  It's the adults who need baby-sitters.  Getting by hand to mouth for the next drug supplier,  they do not seek out real help, ever.  The topic of mental health counseling has come up, but in this society that is at the bottom of the list.  They probably have never heard that term.  Sad, but true.  I am familiar with the underside culture.  It isn't pretty for kids who must endure it in order to grow up and hopefully have some free will that hopefully they will act upon.  Most commonly the kids become so traumatized by their own childhood, that they become imprisoned by it, and there is no escape.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 18, 2009, 09:45:51 PM
A possibility is homicide.  Most likely by Ron's drug rages, but could also be Misty, probably intentional homicide with Misty.  Haleigh after all, lived in a dangerous household, and granny wasn't there then that I know of.  Ron and Misty will cover up for each other.  Misty is afraid of questioning because her memory was/is hazy when under the influence.  She doesn't want to admit to that, hence her inconsistencies, and besides she's not too bright to begin with.  It's so very sad seeing abused children living in depths of redneck (sorry) crude druggie society.  Children have to learn from early on to fend for themselves, for there are no adults around.  Their mothers are terrified of their fathers, and their fathers just are not mentally their, due to drugs.  Children must live with drugged out whiners, unwilling to seek employment or to work when provided with work.  It's the adults who need baby-sitters.  Getting by hand to mouth for the next drug supplier,  they do not seek out real help, ever.  The topic of mental health counseling has come up, but in this society that is at the bottom of the list.  They probably have never heard that term.  Sad, but true.  I am familiar with the underside culture.  It isn't pretty for kids who must endure it in order to grow up and hopefully have some free will that hopefully they will act upon.  Most commonly the kids become so traumatized by their own childhood, that they become imprisoned by it, and there is no escape.
And Ron Jr. still there......What was DCF thinking?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 09:47:12 PM
A possibility is homicide.  Most likely by Ron's drug rages, but could also be Misty, probably intentional homicide with Misty.  Haleigh after all, lived in a dangerous household, and granny wasn't there then that I know of.  Ron and Misty will cover up for each other.  Misty is afraid of questioning because her memory was/is hazy when under the influence.  She doesn't want to admit to that, hence her inconsistencies, and besides she's not too bright to begin with.  It's so very sad seeing abused children living in depths of redneck (sorry) crude druggie society.  Children have to learn from early on to fend for themselves, for there are no adults around.  Their mothers are terrified of their fathers, and their fathers just are not mentally their, due to drugs.  Children must live with drugged out whiners, unwilling to seek employment or to work when provided with work.  It's the adults who need baby-sitters.  Getting by hand to mouth for the next drug supplier,  they do not seek out real help, ever.  The topic of mental health counseling has come up, but in this society that is at the bottom of the list.  They probably have never heard that term.  Sad, but true.  I am familiar with the underside culture.  It isn't pretty for kids who must endure it in order to grow up and hopefully have some free will that hopefully they will act upon.  Most commonly the kids become so traumatized by their own childhood, that they become imprisoned by it, and there is no escape.
And Ron Jr. still there......What was DCF thinking?
They weren't thinking.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 18, 2009, 09:49:11 PM
No Rose ....I know it is NOT funny but I can't help it .... you crack me up  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 18, 2009, 09:49:58 PM
Misty needs to talk! my personal opinion is that she was not at the home when Haleigh went missing and that is what she is hiding...I don't feel that she harmed Haleigh herself or any other family member did either...someone was watching that house, Misty's routine possibly and when the moment was right, went in and took Haleigh...jmo....

IF there is any truth to the above then Misty is still guilty.  There is no defence for anyone who is willing to lie to protect themselves over the life of a 5yr old child. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 09:53:44 PM
No Rose ....I know it is NOT funny but I can't help it .... you crack me up  ::MonkeyJnBox::
When I get upset, I react that way, I guess it is some kind of defense, and I tell you, what is all going through my mind with this case right now, has me very upset and concerned, this isn't making sense, it isn't adding up for me at all. You can almost feel this is coming to an outcome very soon.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 18, 2009, 09:57:48 PM
Misty needs to talk! my personal opinion is that she was not at the home when Haleigh went missing and that is what she is hiding...I don't feel that she harmed Haleigh herself or any other family member did either...someone was watching that house, Misty's routine possibly and when the moment was right, went in and took Haleigh...jmo....

IF there is any truth to the above then Misty is still guilty.  There is no defence for anyone who is willing to lie to protect themselves over the life of a 5yr old child. 

yep..totally agree on that! she is being selfish for whatever reasons if she does not come forward with the truth...knowing that she could provide the LE with possible clues to finding Haleigh and does not is criminal in my mind....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 18, 2009, 09:58:39 PM
Yes it is very upsetting....I don't know how many nights I have layed in bed trying to make sense of all of this  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 18, 2009, 09:58:51 PM
Misty needs to talk! my personal opinion is that she was not at the home when Haleigh went missing and that is what she is hiding...I don't feel that she harmed Haleigh herself or any other family member did either...someone was watching that house, Misty's routine possibly and when the moment was right, went in and took Haleigh...jmo....

IF there is any truth to the above then Misty is still guilty.  There is no defence for anyone who is willing to lie to protect themselves over the life of a 5yr old child. 

yep..totally agree on that! she is being selfish for whatever reasons if she does not come forward with the truth...knowing that she could provide the LE with possible clues to finding Haleigh and does not is criminal in my mind....

She has had 6 months to come forward.  No excuse.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 18, 2009, 09:59:41 PM
Misty needs to talk! my personal opinion is that she was not at the home when Haleigh went missing and that is what she is hiding...I don't feel that she harmed Haleigh herself or any other family member did either...someone was watching that house, Misty's routine possibly and when the moment was right, went in and took Haleigh...jmo....

IF there is any truth to the above then Misty is still guilty.  There is no defence for anyone who is willing to lie to protect themselves over the life of a 5yr old child. 

yep..totally agree on that! she is being selfish for whatever reasons if she does not come forward with the truth...knowing that she could provide the LE with possible clues to finding Haleigh and does not is criminal in my mind....

She has had 6 months to come forward.  No excuse.

again...agreed...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 10:01:58 PM
Misty needs to talk! my personal opinion is that she was not at the home when Haleigh went missing and that is what she is hiding...I don't feel that she harmed Haleigh herself or any other family member did either...someone was watching that house, Misty's routine possibly and when the moment was right, went in and took Haleigh...jmo....

IF there is any truth to the above then Misty is still guilty.  There is no defence for anyone who is willing to lie to protect themselves over the life of a 5yr old child. 
None, none at all.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 18, 2009, 10:05:46 PM
When Misty did not want to do the walk through with Cobra that really set my hinky meter off....shoot I do that just trying to remember where I put my car keys !


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 18, 2009, 10:05:57 PM
One of these days I'll spell defence defense right the first time  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 18, 2009, 10:06:14 PM
hey y'all..glad the le is up an atem' again...i'm glad we are all searching for closure in Haleigh's disappearance but i bet ya a penny if you started reading Haleigh's thread from the beginning, you would see the same statements then as now.  i'm not trying to be a poo monkey, but, man, i think we've all known that misty is/was involved.  i just happy LE is still interested.

Justice for Haleigh! ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 18, 2009, 10:11:17 PM
One of these days I'll spell defence defense right the first time  ::MonkeyCool::
defence/defense....potatoes / po-tot-oes....we knew what you meant LOL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 18, 2009, 10:52:12 PM
Hello Monkeys, I bought a Gainsville newspaper today and it has Haleigh on the  front page, cant tell you how glad I was to see her picture posted right there where everybody could see it, and yes, on the inside continuous of the story it talks about the same thing with Misty being the one that LE is looking at and also has a picture of her posted, then it has a story about a balloon release there in Palaka at a business called Flowers by Melanie, alot of coverage for a case that was bearly metioned in the news, these past 6 months, its a great thing, but it makes me sad also, I wonder why Misty wont talk, why she holds herself in higher regards than HaLeigh. Misty is safe, she is where she wants to be, she has what she wanted , but what about poor HaLeigh, there's something really wrong with Misty, really wrong to be able to smile, to spend fathers day this year with Ron and Jr at the beach and pose for pictures with a smile on her face, all the while knowing that HaLeigh is gone and all it would possibly tak to find her is for her to go back down to LE and talk........What is wrong with that girl.....grrrrrrr she makes me so mad!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 18, 2009, 11:28:28 PM
Update... I only posted the last few motions.. you can go to Putnam Civil Doc for the complete records...

2009-08-10 070.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE - CAROL CALDWELL FOR MOTHER 

2009-08-10 071.MOTHERS EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION FOR COUNSELING 

2009-08-10 FOR MINOR CHILD 

2009-08-17 072.NOTICE OF NON REPRESENTATION - T JERRY SNIDER FOR 

2009-08-17 RONALD CUMMINGS 

2009-08-18 073.NOTICE OF SERVICE VIA UNITED STATES MAIL DELIVERY 

2009-08-18 OF EMERGENCY MOTION TO RONALD L CUMMINGS 

2009-08-18 074.NOTICE OF HEARING/AWN FOR 08/27/09 AT 03:00 

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 18, 2009, 11:29:14 PM
Update... I only posted the last few motions.. you can go to Putnam Civil Doc for the complete records...

2009-08-10 070.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE - CAROL CALDWELL FOR MOTHER 

2009-08-10 071.MOTHERS EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION FOR COUNSELING 

2009-08-10 FOR MINOR CHILD 

2009-08-17 072.NOTICE OF NON REPRESENTATION - T JERRY SNIDER FOR 

2009-08-17 RONALD CUMMINGS 

2009-08-18 073.NOTICE OF SERVICE VIA UNITED STATES MAIL DELIVERY 

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Sorry.. Cummings and Sheffield case..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 19, 2009, 12:28:38 AM
I just wanted to come here and post a poem Crystal wrote to HaLeigh on her my-space, it broke my heart and I just wnted to share it with everyone..........so sad..

General
Poem for HaLeigh HAPPY BIRTHDAY HALEIGH, FROM: MOMMY I can feel your soft fingers fold into my hand as I hear you say " Mommy" This precious memory is more than I can stand. I can see your face glowing with innocence and love. Your curls lay soft against your face, as your memory lays soft on my heart. Where are you HaLeigh I must demand! I can see your eyes filled with wonder as they give out a bright spark. Why can't someone find you? Who knows? Will they set you free? HaLeigh the love you have given to me would bring most moms to their knees.And because of your love I now bend on my knees to ask.."God Please Bring You Home To Me!" A million times I've needed you, A million times I've cried.If I was there could I have saved you? For you I would have died. I wish I could snuggle near you and whisper your name. "HaLeigh precious HaLeigh... I Love You!" "I'm right here at your side." So on this 6th birthday I promise I will dip into my well of faith, new strength to find.... I will look the whole world over UNTIL, MY HALEIGH, I FIND!" I Love You Always Your One And Only, Mommy


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 19, 2009, 01:10:01 AM
Hello Monkeys, I bought a Gainsville newspaper today and it has Haleigh on the  front page, cant tell you how glad I was to see her picture posted right there where everybody could see it, and yes, on the inside continuous of the story it talks about the same thing with Misty being the one that LE is looking at and also has a picture of her posted, then it has a story about a balloon release there in Palaka at a business called Flowers by Melanie, alot of coverage for a case that was bearly metioned in the news, these past 6 months, its a great thing, but it makes me sad also, I wonder why Misty wont talk, why she holds herself in higher regards than HaLeigh. Misty is safe, she is where she wants to be, she has what she wanted , but what about poor HaLeigh, there's something really wrong with Misty, really wrong to be able to smile, to spend fathers day this year with Ron and Jr at the beach and pose for pictures with a smile on her face, all the while knowing that HaLeigh is gone and all it would possibly tak to find her is for her to go back down to LE and talk........What is wrong with that girl.....grrrrrrr she makes me so mad!!

I got behind on reading when they stopped covering this in the media & this doesn't make any difference but why am I suddenly seeing Haleigh's name spelled with a capital L in the middle?  Was it spelled wrong from the beginning ?   Just curious.

I think LE is ever so slowly tightening the noose around Misty's neck .....



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 19, 2009, 01:31:56 AM
One of these days I'll spell defence defense right the first time  ::MonkeyCool::

Defence with a c is correct too !   It's the old English spelling; with an s it's the Americanized spelling.
  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cartfly on August 19, 2009, 01:41:01 AM
A possibility is homicide.  Most likely by Ron's drug rages, but could also be Misty, probably intentional homicide with Misty.  Haleigh after all, lived in a dangerous household, and granny wasn't there then that I know of.  Ron and Misty will cover up for each other.  Misty is afraid of questioning because her memory was/is hazy when under the influence.  She doesn't want to admit to that, hence her inconsistencies, and besides she's not too bright to begin with.  It's so very sad seeing abused children living in depths of redneck (sorry) crude druggie society.  Children have to learn from early on to fend for themselves, for there are no adults around.  Their mothers are terrified of their fathers, and their fathers just are not mentally their, due to drugs.  Children must live with drugged out whiners, unwilling to seek employment or to work when provided with work.  It's the adults who need baby-sitters.  Getting by hand to mouth for the next drug supplier,  they do not seek out real help, ever.  The topic of mental health counseling has come up, but in this society that is at the bottom of the list.  They probably have never heard that term.  Sad, but true.  I am familiar with the underside culture.  It isn't pretty for kids who must endure it in order to grow up and hopefully have some free will that hopefully they will act upon.  Most commonly the kids become so traumatized by their own childhood, that they become imprisoned by it, and there is no escape.
Sad, but so true and the pattern continues when the children become adults.

As far a Misty and Ron, JMO but I feel like they both know exactly what happened to Haleigh. I think it is time for some real pressure on these two, mainly Misty.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: clarice on August 19, 2009, 02:17:00 AM
I am so sad after reading Crystal's letter to HaLeigh.

I want to send a shout out to Strayze.

About money...RC paid all the bail money instead of losing the 10% to a bondsmen. He has donations, tax returns from April (high due to income and that special catagory for low income parents)
He has the back child support and I hear he got paid for the MH video exclusive to NG. He has received money (large amount) from video of wedding on the today show. He most likely is getting unemployment if not State Assistance. No rent or utilities either. More to come if he makes more appearances and with Mark Nejame, you can count on it. All my opinion.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 19, 2009, 07:57:43 AM
Good Morning All!
Don't forget the Today Show.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 19, 2009, 08:10:07 AM
Haleigh Cummings: Investigators change stance on missing girl's 6th birthday

 8:28 p.m. EDT, August 18, 2009

SATSUMA - Investigators in Putnam County marked the sixth birthday of Haleigh Cummings with a news release stating they believe the missing girl was likely kidnapped by someone she knew, according to a TV station's Web site.

Putnam County Sheriff's Office Lt. Johnny Greenwood said evidence and the work of investigators have minimized the likelihood that Haleigh's disappearance is the work of a stranger, WESH.com reported.

Greenwood said the missing girl's biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, are not considered suspects in the case, but Cummings' current wife, Misty Croslin-Cummings, has not been cleared.

"Investigators believe that Misty Croslin-Cummings continues to hold important answers in the case," the news release stated. "She has failed to provide any sort of detailed accounting of the hours during the late evening and early morning of Haleigh's disappearance."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-investigation-081809,0,4327617.story


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 19, 2009, 08:29:45 AM
NANCY GRACE Transcript 8-18-09

Police Say Haleigh Not Taken by Stranger

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0908/18/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 19, 2009, 08:44:37 AM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/
Police Suggest Misty Not At Home When Haleigh Was Abducted
Wednesday, August 19, 2009
By Express
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Haleigh Cummings, 5, was reported missing on February 10. by 17-year-old Misty.  Putnam County Sheriff’s Office Lt. Johnny Greenwood said evidence and the work of investigators have minimized the likelihood that Haleigh’s disappearance is the work of a stranger.Greenwood said physical evidence found at the Cummings’ home contradicted Croslin-Cummings’ account of her evening activities. 

Following a part of the Nancy Grace Show transcript, indicating that police believe Misty Crosling was NOT at home when Haleigh disappeared.

GRACE: Good question. T.J. Hart, joining us there in Gainesville, Florida. First of all, are Ronald Cummings and Misty Croslin still together? I know they married.

T.J. HART, PROGRAM & NEWS DIR., WSKY 97.3FM, COVERING STORY (via phone): Yes. In fact, they`re living with Miss Sykes at (INAUDIBLE) at this point. And to answer the other question about searchers, there`s a search probably going to take place in about six weeks. Tim Miller with Texas EquuSearch has been invited to come in and participate in the search at the request of Ronald`s family. And they`re going to wait until some of the summer vegetation is down and out before they start trying to tackle that mess.

One of the things that is going on right now is that the police aren`t told that Misty was even home at the time of the abduction. In fact, in their press release, they mentioned that any citizen with any direct knowledge of Misty`s activities during that evening or into the early morning is encouraged to report that information to the Putnam County Sheriff`s Office.

GRACE: Well, T.J., they might as well take out an ad on 3rd Avenue that says Misty Croslin was not at home at the time of the kidnapping. Because if they, the police, are asking the public.

HART: That`s right.

GRACE: Hey, did any of you see the stepmother the night she went missing, the night she says she`s at home washing the blankets and putting them to bed at 8:00? I mean.

HART: That would explain making up some of these stories on the fly, allegedly, in the way of putting together a time line.

GRACE: And let`s go back to the lawyers. Anna-Sigga Nicolazzi in New York, Raymond Giudice,
Atlanta, Hugo Rodriguez, Miami.

Raymond, this means that if we`re interpreting what the police are saying correctly, this just puts it out there. Here`s a theory. And again, Misty Croslin is not a suspect. That if they are asking, “where is she?”

RAY GIUDICE, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Right.

GRACE: That night. That suggests that everything she said was false. She was not at home. She did not put them to bed at 8:00. She did not put a blanket on them. She didn`t wake up to go to the bathroom and notice the child was missing.

And if you believe that somebody else took the child, you would have to believe in the window, the hours that she`s gone, somebody detected she was gone and knew how to get into the back door and not make a mark on the door and take the child.

Now how likely is it, Raymond Giudice(criminal defense atty), that all those factors fit together?

GIUDICE: Right. I really believe law enforcement is trying to smoke her out. There`s been no action on this case in six months. And they`re trying to get a reaction from her one way or another. Either a defensive statement or does she go hire counsel and clam up and they interpret that as an indication that as law enforcement would believe she has something to hide.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 19, 2009, 09:41:35 AM
I just wanted to come here and post a poem Crystal wrote to HaLeigh on her my-space, it broke my heart and I just wnted to share it with everyone..........so sad..

General
Poem for HaLeigh HAPPY BIRTHDAY HALEIGH, FROM: MOMMY I can feel your soft fingers fold into my hand as I hear you say " Mommy" This precious memory is more than I can stand. I can see your face glowing with innocence and love. Your curls lay soft against your face, as your memory lays soft on my heart. Where are you HaLeigh I must demand! I can see your eyes filled with wonder as they give out a bright spark. Why can't someone find you? Who knows? Will they set you free? HaLeigh the love you have given to me would bring most moms to their knees.And because of your love I now bend on my knees to ask.."God Please Bring You Home To Me!" A million times I've needed you, A million times I've cried.If I was there could I have saved you? For you I would have died. I wish I could snuggle near you and whisper your name. "HaLeigh precious HaLeigh... I Love You!" "I'm right here at your side." So on this 6th birthday I promise I will dip into my well of faith, new strength to find.... I will look the whole world over UNTIL, MY HALEIGH, I FIND!" I Love You Always Your One And Only, Mommy

Thanks HH for bringing that over~it brought tears to my eyes and anger to the enablers of Misty and anger towards DCF. First, Mama Neves and GGMA Sykes are beginning to remind me of Cindy Anthony to some degree in their enablement of Ron for so long, yet it seems to continue with their statements about Misty being unfairly treated............FTLOG women, step back and look at what is going on and had been for 6 months......before that you sat by while your golden child allowed his precious babies to be cared for by someone you really don't know, a drugged out teen with no value system whatsoever and now you feel you must protect her. Grow some cajones and look clearly at this picture "it is what it is", and how can you all be so blind to these facts.........unless you are helping cover for Misty because SHE is helping cover for RC and whatever happened in that MH that fateful night.

Second, DCF soooooo dropped the ball on this as they have so many other cases, just look thru the SM forums and see how many children have been failed by the system ::MonkeyNoNo:: IMO DCF and the Cummings family in general have blood on their hands for what has happened to this precious little girl. I am so way beyond pizzed at what is happening to these children these days and wonder how many tragedies have to occur before someone steps up to the plate to do what is right. Sorry, rant over for the time being ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: ospainter on August 19, 2009, 09:44:02 AM
Teresa and Mark will not be on Today show today.

Instead they were on CBS this morning.

You can see the interview here

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5251590n&tag=cbsnewsVideoArea.0

Sorry I didn't know this in time to alert everyone.

OS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 09:44:29 AM
IM, you said exactly how I am feeling, but you said it much better than I would, because my anger would cause me to say things I would regret. That was a lovely poem Crystal wrote for Haleigh  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 09:45:20 AM
Shades of the Anthonys, I'm ill, but that is what I'm seeing.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 19, 2009, 09:58:24 AM
Teresa and Mark will not be on Today show today.

Instead they were on CBS this morning.

You can see the interview here

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5251590n&tag=cbsnewsVideoArea.0

Sorry I didn't know this in time to alert everyone.

OS

morning all..
thanks OS for the video..
I do believe that Teresa is trying to get to the bottom of this and that she wants Misty to clear things up as she said...I believe that she has to choose her words wisely, as to whether she thinks that Misty had anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance...She wants answers or she wouldn't have gone ahead and gotten this attorney who also said that Misty needs to supply the answers in the 5 hr gap...jmo...
Teresa does not want to have  a total rift with Ron over Misty or he may keep Ron jr. away from her possibly? She is playing it smarter by going through an attorney to get answers ....imo..
Things are going to happen now....with all the attention going towards Misty and the time line...I feel that it won't be long now till they bring her in again for questioning...My question, what took this long?
God bless Haleigh and praying that she will be found soon!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 19, 2009, 10:00:32 AM
IM, you said exactly how I am feeling, but you said it much better than I would, because my anger would cause me to say things I would regret. That was a lovely poem Crystal wrote for Haleigh  ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks NRCG~I wanted to say more (believe me  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ), and wanted to be more eloquent, but I just am furious now and my anger is brewing, I was far more controlled than I wanted to be.

More than anything my heart is sick with worry over Butterbean as it looks like the chit may soon hit the fan and he will be right smack in the middle of it and he deserves far better than that. Realistically his sister will never come home and he's living in the backyard of GGMA Sykes in a trailer with R/M, he needs to be taken out of that enviroment before something happens to him, sadly IMO it is too late for Haleigh but there is still some hope he can escape anything physical happening to him - it's just a shame the pyshological damage has already been done.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 10:10:02 AM
IM, you said exactly how I am feeling, but you said it much better than I would, because my anger would cause me to say things I would regret. That was a lovely poem Crystal wrote for Haleigh  ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks NRCG~I wanted to say more (believe me  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ), and wanted to be more eloquent, but I just am furious now and my anger is brewing, I was far more controlled than I wanted to be.

More than anything my heart is sick with worry over Butterbean as it looks like the chit may soon hit the fan and he will be right smack in the middle of it and he deserves far better than that. Realistically his sister will never come home and he's living in the backyard of GGMA Sykes in a trailer with R/M, he needs to be taken out of that enviroment before something happens to him, sadly IMO it is too late for Haleigh but there is still some hope he can escape anything physical happening to him - it's just a shame the pyshological damage has already been done.
I have no faith in the system at all, they dropped the ball and the child is the one suffering. But what I'm afraid of more, is if this would be looked into again, and this time Jr would be placed with his mother, what would Ron do? I have some thoughts and they aren't good.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 10:37:30 AM
Teresa and Mark will not be on Today show today.

Instead they were on CBS this morning.

You can see the interview here

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5251590n&tag=cbsnewsVideoArea.0

Sorry I didn't know this in time to alert everyone.

OS
Thanks, interesting, the Ron Cummings, lets try to clean you up in the public's eye tour. The word cleared was not used by LE. If that word cleared has been used for Ron and Crystal I would like to see it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 19, 2009, 10:40:15 AM
IM, you said exactly how I am feeling, but you said it much better than I would, because my anger would cause me to say things I would regret. That was a lovely poem Crystal wrote for Haleigh  ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks NRCG~I wanted to say more (believe me  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ), and wanted to be more eloquent, but I just am furious now and my anger is brewing, I was far more controlled than I wanted to be.

More than anything my heart is sick with worry over Butterbean as it looks like the chit may soon hit the fan and he will be right smack in the middle of it and he deserves far better than that. Realistically his sister will never come home and he's living in the backyard of GGMA Sykes in a trailer with R/M, he needs to be taken out of that enviroment before something happens to him, sadly IMO it is too late for Haleigh but there is still some hope he can escape anything physical happening to him - it's just a shame the pyshological damage has already been done.
I have no faith in the system at all, they dropped the ball and the child is the one suffering. But what I'm afraid of more, is if this would be looked into again, and this time Jr would be placed with his mother, what would Ron do? I have some thoughts and they aren't good.

ITA as I have no faith in the system either.......look at the Manwill case and I caould name countless others (including my own with my son's case), thank God he was appointed a GAL and the Judge listened to the GAL and protected him.

I don't even want to think of what he would do, nor do I wnat to even have those thoughts that creep into my head...... ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 19, 2009, 10:44:06 AM
Teresa and Mark will not be on Today show today.

Instead they were on CBS this morning.

You can see the interview here

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5251590n&tag=cbsnewsVideoArea.0

Sorry I didn't know this in time to alert everyone.

OS
Thanks, interesting, the Ron Cummings, lets try to clean you up in the public's eye tour. The word cleared was not used by LE. If that word cleared has been used for Ron and Crystal I would like to see it.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: Good luck with that, Ron is his own worst enemy IMO........also, I have seen many cases where LE states #### is NOT a suspect just to arrest them sometime later. MOO, I think the PCSO may be trying to squeeze the weakest link ::MonkeyJnBox:: I missed the interview, was it just TN or was Ron there???? If ROn wasn't there, looks like mommy neves is cleaning up for him yet again. FTLOG someone let him be held accountable for his actions and decision. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 10:46:19 AM
I'm trying to figure out why Teresa needs an attorney.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 10:49:55 AM
http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/08/19/news/news01.txt           Misty does for sure have a lawyer.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 19, 2009, 11:05:49 AM
I'm trying to figure out why Teresa needs an attorney.

NRCG~did you watch the interview on the link? If so, what was the jist of it - I don't have my laptop and can't watch it ::MonkeyTongue:: TIA


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 19, 2009, 11:12:17 AM
I'm trying to figure out why Teresa needs an attorney.

NRCG~did you watch the interview on the link? If so, what was the jist of it - I don't have my laptop and can't watch it ::MonkeyTongue:: TIA

To me Teresa sounded like she really doesn't believe Misty and they are trying to put some pressure on her.  I have no idea why Nejame is involved but I suspect it's  mutually beneficial.  Haleigh gets back in the news and Nejame does as well.  Good for business I suspect.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 19, 2009, 11:14:44 AM
I'm trying to figure out why Teresa needs an attorney.

NRCG~did you watch the interview on the link? If so, what was the jist of it - I don't have my laptop and can't watch it ::MonkeyTongue:: TIA

To me Teresa sounded like she really doesn't believe Misty and they are trying to put some pressure on her.  I have no idea why Nejame is involved but I suspect it's  mutually beneficial.  Haleigh gets back in the news and Nejame does as well.  Good for business I suspect.

bingo! that is my thought as well...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 19, 2009, 11:15:50 AM

I got behind on reading when they stopped covering this in the media & this doesn't make any difference but why am I suddenly seeing Haleigh's name spelled with a capital L in the middle?  Was it spelled wrong from the beginning ?   Just curious.

I think LE is ever so slowly tightening the noose around Misty's neck .....


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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 19, 2009, 11:20:28 AM
I'm trying to figure out why Teresa needs an attorney.

NRCG~did you watch the interview on the link? If so, what was the jist of it - I don't have my laptop and can't watch it ::MonkeyTongue:: TIA

To me Teresa sounded like she really doesn't believe Misty and they are trying to put some pressure on her.  I have no idea why Nejame is involved but I suspect it's  mutually beneficial.  Haleigh gets back in the news and Nejame does as well.  Good for business I suspect.

Thanks Klaas~I'm dying without my laptop and am missing so much, ITA with the mutually beneficial part..........what was her demeanor when they were questioning her about Misty (if they did)? Just your take if you will


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 19, 2009, 11:29:10 AM
I'm trying to figure out why Teresa needs an attorney.

NRCG~did you watch the interview on the link? If so, what was the jist of it - I don't have my laptop and can't watch it ::MonkeyTongue:: TIA

To me Teresa sounded like she really doesn't believe Misty and they are trying to put some pressure on her.  I have no idea why Nejame is involved but I suspect it's  mutually beneficial.  Haleigh gets back in the news and Nejame does as well.  Good for business I suspect.

Thanks Klaas~I'm dying without my laptop and am missing so much, ITA with the mutually beneficial part..........what was her demeanor when they were questioning her about Misty (if they did)? Just your take if you will

She seemed the same only quieter.  I'll take a screen cap for you so you can see her face. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 19, 2009, 11:33:47 AM
IM, this is what Theresa looked like when asked about what LE was trying to say about Misty.  She was looking around I guess to find the right words:


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/TheresaN081909.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 11:38:52 AM
I'm trying to figure out why Teresa needs an attorney.

NRCG~did you watch the interview on the link? If so, what was the jist of it - I don't have my laptop and can't watch it ::MonkeyTongue:: TIA

To me Teresa sounded like she really doesn't believe Misty and they are trying to put some pressure on her.  I have no idea why Nejame is involved but I suspect it's  mutually beneficial.  Haleigh gets back in the news and Nejame does as well.  Good for business I suspect.
That was basically that, but my question is why does grandma give food and shelter to Misty, again I would kick her out, she can go live with her mom and dad or brothers. I think that the answers were carefully guarded, really nothing that new.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 11:45:28 AM
Neves' attorney, Mark NeJame, said on the show that Croslin-Cummings' story during a five-hour gap between 10:00 p.m. to 3:00 a.m. is in question. If true that is a big gap.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 19, 2009, 11:45:29 AM
IM, this is what Theresa looked like when asked about what LE was trying to say about Misty.  She was looking around I guess to find the right words:


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/TheresaN081909.jpg)


Thanks~I appreciate the screen shot and input ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 19, 2009, 11:48:33 AM
Neves' attorney, Mark NeJame, said on the show that Croslin-Cummings' story during a five-hour gap between 10:00 p.m. to 3:00 a.m. is in question. If true that is a big gap.

Yes it is NRCG........I'm just so sad about this case, then you add the Manwill case, and so many others and I am sick at how children are treated especially by those that are supposed to love them ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 11:51:11 AM
Neves' attorney, Mark NeJame, said on the show that Croslin-Cummings' story during a five-hour gap between 10:00 p.m. to 3:00 a.m. is in question. If true that is a big gap.

Yes it is NRCG........I'm just so sad about this case, then you add the Manwill case, and so many others and I am sick at how children are treated especially by those that are supposed to love them ::MonkeyConfused::
It is horrible, and it is also horrible the enabling that we see in some of the cases.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Treehouse on August 19, 2009, 12:05:50 PM
I just wanted to come here and post a poem Crystal wrote to HaLeigh on her my-space, it broke my heart and I just wnted to share it with everyone..........so sad..

General
Poem for HaLeigh HAPPY BIRTHDAY HALEIGH, FROM: MOMMY I can feel your soft fingers fold into my hand as I hear you say " Mommy" This precious memory is more than I can stand. I can see your face glowing with innocence and love. Your curls lay soft against your face, as your memory lays soft on my heart. Where are you HaLeigh I must demand! I can see your eyes filled with wonder as they give out a bright spark. Why can't someone find you? Who knows? Will they set you free? HaLeigh the love you have given to me would bring most moms to their knees.And because of your love I now bend on my knees to ask.."God Please Bring You Home To Me!" A million times I've needed you, A million times I've cried.If I was there could I have saved you? For you I would have died. I wish I could snuggle near you and whisper your name. "HaLeigh precious HaLeigh... I Love You!" "I'm right here at your side." So on this 6th birthday I promise I will dip into my well of faith, new strength to find.... I will look the whole world over UNTIL, MY HALEIGH, I FIND!" I Love You Always Your One And Only, Mommy

Wow. Thanks for posting this.

This is a love story between mother and child. It speaks of, and to, HaLeigh's spirit and the joy she brought (hopefully, brings) to those who love her.

Contrast this letter of love with Cindy Anthony's "My Caylee is Missing." Cindy's letter was all about Cindy's sacrifice, Cindy's martyrdom, Cindy's missing possession; it only brushed against the thought that Caylee's life was (or could have been) a celebration of love.

Lord, grant those who love HaLeigh strength for this day and the days to come.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: alagary on August 19, 2009, 12:13:21 PM
About the 10:00 -3:00 time gap . Does anyone know where the 10:00 comes from ?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Blumonkey on August 19, 2009, 12:22:28 PM
I am so angry that it took 6 months for LE to decide that Misty's account of that Feb. night has "inconsistencies!" Some of us have said that from the beginning. I, for one, am not impressed by tears and the kid glove treatment she has been receiving. I believe this case would be solved by now if they had found a reason to detain her, allow the drugs to leave her system, and question her. She now has a lawyer and cannot be forced to cooperate or speak. This has become "How NOT to conduct an investigation 101." Where is Haleigh??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 12:29:30 PM
About the 10:00 -3:00 time gap . Does anyone know where the 10:00 comes from ?
I've been wondering that, I don't know.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 12:30:13 PM
I am so angry that it took 6 months for LE to decide that Misty's account of that Feb. night has "inconsistencies!" Some of us have said that from the beginning. I, for one, am not impressed by tears and the kid glove treatment she has been receiving. I believe this case would be solved by now if they had found a reason to detain her, allow the drugs to leave her system, and question her. She now has a lawyer and cannot be forced to cooperate or speak. This has become "How NOT to conduct an investigation 101." Where is Haleigh??
Yes I agree


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: alagary on August 19, 2009, 12:33:05 PM
NRCG do you remember what time grandma said she dropped off the laundry . If I remember right she was the last KNOWN  visitor on the time line .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 19, 2009, 12:35:38 PM
NRCG do you remember what time grandma said she dropped off the laundry . If I remember right she was the last KNOWN  visitor on the time line .

I'm not NRCG, but IIRC it was 7pm. I remember this so well because she said the kids were outside eating and I live in Florida and it was cold out that night (for Floridians anyway, especially children), it just made no sense that they were eating outside when it was that cold and that she didn't bother to tell the story for about 10 days to 2 weeks from what I can recall, and Misty never mentioned it ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 12:36:45 PM
NRCG do you remember what time grandma said she dropped off the laundry . If I remember right she was the last KNOWN  visitor on the time line .
Off the top of my head around 7-7:30 I don't believe it was much later then that.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 12:37:53 PM
NRCG do you remember what time grandma said she dropped off the laundry . If I remember right she was the last KNOWN  visitor on the time line .

I'm not NRCG, but IIRC it was 7pm. I remember this so well because she said the kids were outside eating and I live in Florida and it was cold out that night (for Floridians anyway, especially children), it just made no sense that they were eating outside when it was that cold and that she didn't bother to tell the story for about 10 days to 2 weeks from what I can recall, and Misty never mentioned it ::MonkeyTongue::
Thanks, I guess that my guess was right. How would you forget to tell the story  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: alagary on August 19, 2009, 12:45:03 PM
It looks like before 10:00 pm something happened that would be interesting to know .Thanks IM and NRCG


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 19, 2009, 12:54:03 PM
NRCG do you remember what time grandma said she dropped off the laundry . If I remember right she was the last KNOWN  visitor on the time line .

I'm not NRCG, but IIRC it was 7pm. I remember this so well because she said the kids were outside eating and I live in Florida and it was cold out that night (for Floridians anyway, especially children), it just made no sense that they were eating outside when it was that cold and that she didn't bother to tell the story for about 10 days to 2 weeks from what I can recall, and Misty never mentioned it ::MonkeyTongue::
Thanks, I guess that my guess was right. How would you forget to tell the story  ::MonkeyRoll::

Hmmm~can't imagine that one either NRCG ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 01:06:14 PM
NRCG do you remember what time grandma said she dropped off the laundry . If I remember right she was the last KNOWN  visitor on the time line .

I'm not NRCG, but IIRC it was 7pm. I remember this so well because she said the kids were outside eating and I live in Florida and it was cold out that night (for Floridians anyway, especially children), it just made no sense that they were eating outside when it was that cold and that she didn't bother to tell the story for about 10 days to 2 weeks from what I can recall, and Misty never mentioned it ::MonkeyTongue::
Thanks, I guess that my guess was right. How would you forget to tell the story  ::MonkeyRoll::

Hmmm~can't imagine that one either NRCG ::MonkeyWink::
This is beyond sickening already, I'll bet grandma was never at the mobile home that night.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 19, 2009, 01:14:15 PM

Unless I misinterpretred, sounded to me from the interview like LE has somehow been able to verify that Misty was in the home up until 10pm ...  maybe through someone she talked to on the phone or something she watched on TV?  Wonder if they were also able to verify that Haleigh was there up until 10.  I dunno. 

And now it's what happened during between 10pm - 3am that they can't fill in, which is when Misty said she they were all sleeping but LE suspects Misty wasn't there at least part of that time.   Theresa Neves probably has to walk a very fine line in what she says to keep from doing anything to upset Ron or Misty.  She really didn't say anything, very flat affect, and there was really no point to the interview IMO except to keep Haleigh in the public eye ... or to put Misty back in the public eye & try to put pressure on her. 

Just talking to myself, pay me no mind.   ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 01:18:22 PM

Unless I misinterpretred, sounded to me from the interview like LE has somehow been able to verify that Misty was in the home up until 10pm ...  maybe through someone she talked to on the phone or something she watched on TV?  Wonder if they were also able to verify that Haleigh was there up until 10.  I dunno. 

And now it's what happened during between 10pm - 3am that they can't fill in, which is when Misty said she they were all sleeping but LE suspects Misty wasn't there at least part of that time.   Theresa Neves probably has to walk a very fine line in what she says to keep from doing anything to upset Ron or Misty.  She really didn't say anything, very flat affect, and there was really no point to the interview IMO except to keep Haleigh in the public eye ... or to put Misty back in the public eye & try to put pressure on her. 

Just talking to myself, pay me no mind.   ::MonkeyBike::
That makes good sense to me, thanks. I've been trying to figure this 10 to 3 timeline.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 19, 2009, 01:18:38 PM

I spelled misinterpreted with an extra r.    ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 19, 2009, 01:20:35 PM
NRCG do you remember what time grandma said she dropped off the laundry . If I remember right she was the last KNOWN  visitor on the time line .

I'm not NRCG, but IIRC it was 7pm. I remember this so well because she said the kids were outside eating and I live in Florida and it was cold out that night (for Floridians anyway, especially children), it just made no sense that they were eating outside when it was that cold and that she didn't bother to tell the story for about 10 days to 2 weeks from what I can recall, and Misty never mentioned it ::MonkeyTongue::
Thanks, I guess that my guess was right. How would you forget to tell the story  ::MonkeyRoll::

Hmmm~can't imagine that one either NRCG ::MonkeyWink::
This is beyond sickening already, I'll bet grandma was never at the mobile home that night.

That has been one of my questions from very early on, and one that I'm not satisfied with the answer.......unless someone else can verify she was there. So many unanswered questions and way too much time has gone by. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 19, 2009, 01:20:52 PM

Unless I misinterpretred, sounded to me from the interview like LE has somehow been able to verify that Misty was in the home up until 10pm ...  maybe through someone she talked to on the phone or something she watched on TV?  Wonder if they were also able to verify that Haleigh was there up until 10.  I dunno. 

And now it's what happened during between 10pm - 3am that they can't fill in, which is when Misty said she they were all sleeping but LE suspects Misty wasn't there at least part of that time.   Theresa Neves probably has to walk a very fine line in what she says to keep from doing anything to upset Ron or Misty.  She really didn't say anything, very flat affect, and there was really no point to the interview IMO except to keep Haleigh in the public eye ... or to put Misty back in the public eye & try to put pressure on her. 

Just talking to myself, pay me no mind.   ::MonkeyBike::

you can talk to me..ha ha! I think that you are correct...10 pm -3 ...LE must be pretty sure of this unless I heard/read wrong as well....
and I think that you are right that Teresa is walking a fine line at the moment..this case will all break through pretty soon I feel with the right amount of pressure...it should have happened before now, like 6 months ago!

in regards to granny sykes...she could have told the story of her being at the home at 7 and it just never made the news before we heard it? dunno...I don't think that granny would lie about something like her being there at that time...my opinion only...And also, neighbors did report seeing Haleigh and Jr. playing outside that evening as well...now, after that time, only Misty can fill in that time...imo...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: seahorse on August 19, 2009, 01:23:52 PM
I'm trying to figure out why Teresa needs an attorney.

NRCG~did you watch the interview on the link? If so, what was the jist of it - I don't have my laptop and can't watch it ::MonkeyTongue:: TIA

To me Teresa sounded like she really doesn't believe Misty and they are trying to put some pressure on her.  I have no idea why Nejame is involved but I suspect it's  mutually beneficial.  Haleigh gets back in the news and Nejame does as well.  Good for business I suspect.

bingo! that is my thought as well...

Teresa should have been sitting next to her daughter, Crystal Cummings.  Crystal would have put a little powder on Teresa, a barrett in her hair, and gave her a more brave and dignified appearance, instead, Teresa had a look of being in Never Never Land.
 
Where has Crystal Cummings been? When was the last time anyone saw Crystal Cummings?  She is silently absent, did she move?

My opinions.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 19, 2009, 01:30:25 PM
I'm trying to figure out why Teresa needs an attorney.

NRCG~did you watch the interview on the link? If so, what was the jist of it - I don't have my laptop and can't watch it ::MonkeyTongue:: TIA

To me Teresa sounded like she really doesn't believe Misty and they are trying to put some pressure on her.  I have no idea why Nejame is involved but I suspect it's  mutually beneficial.  Haleigh gets back in the news and Nejame does as well.  Good for business I suspect.

bingo! that is my thought as well...

Teresa should have been sitting next to her daughter, Crystal Cummings.  Crystal would have put a little powder on Teresa, a barrett in her hair, and gave her a more brave and dignified appearance, instead, Teresa had a look of being in Never Never Land.
 
Where has Crystal Cummings been? When was the last time anyone saw Crystal Cummings?  She is silently absent, did she move?

My opinions.

Teresa is Ron's mother.   

I get what you're saying about powder & barretts but I don't think her appearance matters.  All the girls & women in that circle have the no makeup, straight hair appearance, including Crystal.

As I said earlier, I think Teresa was being very guarded in what she was saying, basically she didn't say anything.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 19, 2009, 01:31:25 PM
NRCG do you remember what time grandma said she dropped off the laundry . If I remember right she was the last KNOWN  visitor on the time line .

I'm not NRCG, but IIRC it was 7pm. I remember this so well because she said the kids were outside eating and I live in Florida and it was cold out that night (for Floridians anyway, especially children), it just made no sense that they were eating outside when it was that cold and that she didn't bother to tell the story for about 10 days to 2 weeks from what I can recall, and Misty never mentioned it ::MonkeyTongue::
Thanks, I guess that my guess was right. How would you forget to tell the story  ::MonkeyRoll::

Hmmm~can't imagine that one either NRCG ::MonkeyWink::
I think Misty practiced forgetting so much about that night she got confused with what she could and could not remember....MOO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 19, 2009, 01:31:43 PM
I'm trying to figure out why Teresa needs an attorney.

NRCG~did you watch the interview on the link? If so, what was the jist of it - I don't have my laptop and can't watch it ::MonkeyTongue:: TIA

To me Teresa sounded like she really doesn't believe Misty and they are trying to put some pressure on her.  I have no idea why Nejame is involved but I suspect it's  mutually beneficial.  Haleigh gets back in the news and Nejame does as well.  Good for business I suspect.

bingo! that is my thought as well...

Teresa should have been sitting next to her daughter, Crystal Cummings.  Crystal would have put a little powder on Teresa, a barrett in her hair, and gave her a more brave and dignified appearance, instead, Teresa had a look of being in Never Never Land.
 
Where has Crystal Cummings been? When was the last time anyone saw Crystal Cummings?  She is silently absent, did she move?

My opinions.

HUH?  Theresa is Ronalds mom, not Crystal's mom.  Crystal was just at the event to distribute school supplies to Haliegh's school. 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 19, 2009, 01:32:48 PM
I'm trying to figure out why Teresa needs an attorney.

NRCG~did you watch the interview on the link? If so, what was the jist of it - I don't have my laptop and can't watch it ::MonkeyTongue:: TIA

To me Teresa sounded like she really doesn't believe Misty and they are trying to put some pressure on her.  I have no idea why Nejame is involved but I suspect it's  mutually beneficial.  Haleigh gets back in the news and Nejame does as well.  Good for business I suspect.

bingo! that is my thought as well...

Teresa should have been sitting next to her daughter, Crystal Cummings.  Crystal would have put a little powder on Teresa, a barrett in her hair, and gave her a more brave and dignified appearance, instead, Teresa had a look of being in Never Never Land.
 
Where has Crystal Cummings been? When was the last time anyone saw Crystal Cummings?  She is silently absent, did she move?

My opinions.

Teresa is Ron's mother.   

I get what you're saying about powder & barretts but I don't think her appearance matters.  All the girls & women in that circle have the no makeup, straight hair appearance, including Crystal.

As I said earlier, I think Teresa was being very guarded in what she was saying, basically she didn't say anything.
Ronald has a sister named Crystal too..........and yes, where has she gone too.....havent seen her at all..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 19, 2009, 01:34:47 PM
I'm trying to figure out why Teresa needs an attorney.

NRCG~did you watch the interview on the link? If so, what was the jist of it - I don't have my laptop and can't watch it ::MonkeyTongue:: TIA

To me Teresa sounded like she really doesn't believe Misty and they are trying to put some pressure on her.  I have no idea why Nejame is involved but I suspect it's  mutually beneficial.  Haleigh gets back in the news and Nejame does as well.  Good for business I suspect.

bingo! that is my thought as well...

Teresa should have been sitting next to her daughter, Crystal Cummings.  Crystal would have put a little powder on Teresa, a barrett in her hair, and gave her a more brave and dignified appearance, instead, Teresa had a look of being in Never Never Land.
 
Where has Crystal Cummings been? When was the last time anyone saw Crystal Cummings?  She is silently absent, did she move?

My opinions.

HUH?  Theresa is Ronalds mom, not Crystal's mom.  Crystal was just at the event to distribute school supplies to Haliegh's school. 


Remember Ronald sister Crysatl, the one with all the hair styles when this all begin?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 19, 2009, 01:36:49 PM
I'm trying to figure out why Teresa needs an attorney.

NRCG~did you watch the interview on the link? If so, what was the jist of it - I don't have my laptop and can't watch it ::MonkeyTongue:: TIA

To me Teresa sounded like she really doesn't believe Misty and they are trying to put some pressure on her.  I have no idea why Nejame is involved but I suspect it's  mutually beneficial.  Haleigh gets back in the news and Nejame does as well.  Good for business I suspect.

bingo! that is my thought as well...

Teresa should have been sitting next to her daughter, Crystal Cummings.  Crystal would have put a little powder on Teresa, a barrett in her hair, and gave her a more brave and dignified appearance, instead, Teresa had a look of being in Never Never Land.
 
Where has Crystal Cummings been? When was the last time anyone saw Crystal Cummings?  She is silently absent, did she move?

My opinions.

HUH?  Theresa is Ronalds mom, not Crystal's mom.  Crystal was just at the event to distribute school supplies to Haliegh's school. 


Remember Ronald sister Crysatl, the one with all the hair styles when this all begin?

Ah yes, I remember.  Just seemed like a very odd comment by Seahorse. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on August 19, 2009, 01:39:14 PM
Hi Monkeys!

I've said it before, but IMO, the information required to solve this case lies within Haleigh's family. JMO!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 19, 2009, 01:42:13 PM
I'm trying to figure out why Teresa needs an attorney.

NRCG~did you watch the interview on the link? If so, what was the jist of it - I don't have my laptop and can't watch it ::MonkeyTongue:: TIA

To me Teresa sounded like she really doesn't believe Misty and they are trying to put some pressure on her.  I have no idea why Nejame is involved but I suspect it's  mutually beneficial.  Haleigh gets back in the news and Nejame does as well.  Good for business I suspect.

bingo! that is my thought as well...

Teresa should have been sitting next to her daughter, Crystal Cummings.  Crystal would have put a little powder on Teresa, a barrett in her hair, and gave her a more brave and dignified appearance, instead, Teresa had a look of being in Never Never Land.
 
Where has Crystal Cummings been? When was the last time anyone saw Crystal Cummings?  She is silently absent, did she move?

My opinions.

Teresa is Ron's mother.   

I get what you're saying about powder & barretts but I don't think her appearance matters.  All the girls & women in that circle have the no makeup, straight hair appearance, including Crystal.

As I said earlier, I think Teresa was being very guarded in what she was saying, basically she didn't say anything.

But Crystal Cummings is Ron's sister and Teres's daughter...I know this case gets so confusing. IMO Teresa did look out of it, aND WAS VAGUE IN HER ANSWERS, BUT i'LL CHALK THAT UP TO BEING A GREIving GMA...but I was disappointed to hear "I don't know" so many times. It's like a theme in their home IMO. Sorry for all caps and typos  as I'm on someone else's computer that seems to be possessed.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 19, 2009, 01:47:38 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20461636/detail.html
Grandmother Believes Haleigh Is Alive
Missing Girl's Grandma Appears On 'Early Show'

POSTED: Wednesday, August 19, 2009
UPDATED: 1:01 pm EDT August 19, 2009
NEW YORK -- The paternal grandmother of a missing girl is refuting claims that the child's stepmother knows more information about the girl's disappearance.
<snipped>


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 19, 2009, 01:47:59 PM
Hi Monkeys!

I've said it before, but IMO, the information required to solve this case lies within Haleigh's family. JMO!
CBB, do you mean all her family , or the side that she lived with?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 19, 2009, 01:53:24 PM
But Crystal Cummings is Ron's sister and Teres's daughter...I know this case gets so confusing. IMO Teresa did look out of it, aND WAS VAGUE IN HER ANSWERS, BUT i'LL CHALK THAT UP TO BEING A GREIving GMA...but I was disappointed to hear "I don't know" so many times. It's like a theme in their home IMO. Sorry for all caps and typos  as I'm on someone else's computer that seems to be possessed.

Hi  IM !  Good to "see" you.  Hope you're doing okay.

I had forgotten about the Crystal who is Ron's sister!  I thought she was vague in her answers too ... dodging, being careful to let the interviewer know that it wasn't her but LE who thought Misty wasn't being forthcoming.  GGMa did the same "I don't know" thing last night on NG, fumbled & bumbled, did you hear that? 

There was a tad of emotion in Teresa's voice at the very end of the interview when she said she thinks Haleigh is still alive & that without faith you have nothing.  Her affect may be flat all the time for all I know, may just be her personality, might be having to be interviewed on TV.  I know I'd hate that.  All the world watching & picking apart every word you say & how you look.     

Typos?  What typos, this ain't no English class.     ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 19, 2009, 02:00:55 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20461636/detail.html
Grandmother Believes Haleigh Is Alive
Missing Girl's Grandma Appears On 'Early Show'

POSTED: Wednesday, August 19, 2009
UPDATED: 1:01 pm EDT August 19, 2009
NEW YORK -- The paternal grandmother of a missing girl is refuting claims that the child's stepmother knows more information about the girl's disappearance.
<snipped>


Thanks Trimm.   

I think this sentence from NeJames about Misty says a lot: 

"The story, the version that she gave, isn't lining up. There's certain areas that still remain with a large question mark hanging over them," Nejame said.

Misty is The One  oh yeah.   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 19, 2009, 02:05:47 PM

HH, weren't you keeping in contact with Crystal at one time?  Or was that IM?  Or did I dream that.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 19, 2009, 02:10:41 PM

HH, weren't you keeping in contact with Crystal at one time?  Or was that IM?  Or did I dream that.


Yes, it was me, and I think IM was in contact with Marie also at some point, and she did speak with Crystal by phone, when I was at the HBC I gave my phone to Crystal to speak with IM..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 02:16:59 PM
Hi Monkeys!

I've said it before, but IMO, the information required to solve this case lies within Haleigh's family. JMO!
I have believed that from the beginning.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 19, 2009, 02:18:47 PM
But Crystal Cummings is Ron's sister and Teres's daughter...I know this case gets so confusing. IMO Teresa did look out of it, aND WAS VAGUE IN HER ANSWERS, BUT i'LL CHALK THAT UP TO BEING A GREIving GMA...but I was disappointed to hear "I don't know" so many times. It's like a theme in their home IMO. Sorry for all caps and typos  as I'm on someone else's computer that seems to be possessed.

Hi  IM !  Good to "see" you.  Hope you're doing okay.

I had forgotten about the Crystal who is Ron's sister!  I thought she was vague in her answers too ... dodging, being careful to let the interviewer know that it wasn't her but LE who thought Misty wasn't being forthcoming.  GGMa did the same "I don't know" thing last night on NG, fumbled & bumbled, did you hear that? 

There was a tad of emotion in Teresa's voice at the very end of the interview when she said she thinks Haleigh is still alive & that without faith you have nothing.  Her affect may be flat all the time for all I know, may just be her personality, might be having to be interviewed on TV.  I know I'd hate that.  All the world watching & picking apart every word you say & how you look.     

Typos?  What typos, this ain't no English class.     ::MonkeyWink::



Thanks BG~I'm doing good and you are so kind to ask  ::MonkeyAngel::

I did hear all that mumbling........

I did see a tad of emotion in her but I guess if TES was coming to search thru the woods for my grandchild I'd be thinking in the back of my mind what the reality of the statistics show. I remember emotion in Misty when she talked about the blanket she put over Haleigh and it always seemed odd that she seemed so emotional over that, in my mind it was like she was re-living covering her up for "the last time".

I bummed a puter to see the "Possible abduction" t-shirts  ::MonkeyConfused:: and the video because my work puter won't let me see those, but it was like typing blind ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: seahorse on August 19, 2009, 02:37:52 PM
I'm trying to figure out why Teresa needs an attorney.

NRCG~did you watch the interview on the link? If so, what was the jist of it - I don't have my laptop and can't watch it ::MonkeyTongue:: TIA

To me Teresa sounded like she really doesn't believe Misty and they are trying to put some pressure on her.  I have no idea why Nejame is involved but I suspect it's  mutually beneficial.  Haleigh gets back in the news and Nejame does as well.  Good for business I suspect.

bingo! that is my thought as well...

Teresa should have been sitting next to her daughter, Crystal Cummings.  Crystal would have put a little powder on Teresa, a barrett in her hair, and gave her a more brave and dignified appearance, instead, Teresa had a look of being in Never Never Land.
 
Where has Crystal Cummings been? When was the last time anyone saw Crystal Cummings?  She is silently absent, did she move?

My opinions.

Teresa is Ron's mother.   

I get what you're saying about powder & barretts but I don't think her appearance matters.  All the girls & women in that circle have the no makeup, straight hair appearance, including Crystal.

As I said earlier, I think Teresa was being very guarded in what she was saying, basically she didn't say anything.
Ronald has a sister named Crystal too..........and yes, where has she gone too.....havent seen her at all..



Crystal Cummings is absent, I would put my thinking cap on and wonder, why?

Teresa, I know she is struggling, where is her daughter?  Her daughter should make mom a good meal, give encouragement and put a colorful ribbon in Mom's hair, only to lift her spirits.

Where is Crystal Cummings? This may be a clue, don't ask me what kind of clue, obviously, everyone's face is there except for Ronald's sister Crystal.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 02:39:25 PM
IM, that is a good point about the blanket and Misty showing some emotion. All that blanket talk never made any sense, on and on about blankets  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 19, 2009, 02:45:59 PM
IM, that is a good point about the blanket and Misty showing some emotion. All that blanket talk never made any sense, on and on about blankets  ::MonkeyEek::

It has always bothered me along with so many or their actions, for example how Misty states "I'd never hurt THAT CHILD", or Ron
"I'd give my life to have her's back", or "I'm going to believe she is alive until they find a body"  ::MonkeyEek::  paraphrasing here... I'd love to give you the link to that video of Misty tallking about the blanket to watch her emotions. This may also explain why they never wanted to go back to the trailer. JMO, but I think whatever happened to Haleigh happened in that trailer that night and both R/M know what happened.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 19, 2009, 02:47:50 PM

Crystal Cummings is absent, I would put my thinking cap on and wonder, why?

Teresa, I know she is struggling, where is her daughter?  Her daughter should make mom a good meal, give encouragement and put a colorful ribbon in Mom's hair, only to lift her spirits.

Where is Crystal Cummings? This may be a clue, don't ask me what kind of clue, obviously, everyone's face is there except for Ronald's sister Crystal.

I really don't follow your thinking.  She could be doing all you mentioned except the ribbons in her mom's hair, and we just don't know it.  Teresa Neves' appearance is fine.  My hair would be standing straight up on end on the top of my head if my granddaughter disappeared 6 months ago, there's a visual for you, and I wouldn't care.  Just sayin'

Do you know something about that Crystal Cummings that we don't?   Just askin'
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 19, 2009, 02:50:34 PM
Yes, the blankets, and no excuse as to why she decided to go to the other bathroom instead of using the one right there in the same room with her, or did she get up to get a drink of water, and why was the video that she claimed she left in the player for the children to watch not the video that was in the player when LE got there, oh and lets not forget about the pink shirt that Haleigh wore to bed that was found later in the laundry and now she has no idea what HaLeigh had on, oh and lets not forget, that the inside door on that mobile home closes as soon as you let it go so how did she walk into the kitchen and see the storm door wide open with a cinder block holding it that way, What a crock.........this girl doesnt know what the heck she is talking about, and I believe it is because she had just walked back inside that home herself just before Ronald drove up.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 19, 2009, 02:55:51 PM
IM, that is a good point about the blanket and Misty showing some emotion. All that blanket talk never made any sense, on and on about blankets  ::MonkeyEek::

It has always bothered me along with so many or their actions, for example how Misty states "I'd never hurt THAT CHILD", or Ron
"I'd give my life to have her's back", or "I'm going to believe she is alive until they find a body"  ::MonkeyEek::  paraphrasing here... I'd love to give you the link to that video of Misty tallking about the blanket to watch her emotions. This may also explain why they never wanted to go back to the trailer. JMO, but I think whatever happened to Haleigh happened in that trailer that night and both R/M know what happened.

I agree.   I remember all that blanket stuff.  Stuff that made you go huh.  It sounded like she put Haleigh to bed with no blanket & covered her up later, had to wash her blanket because they only had the one?   ::MonkeyConfused:: 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 19, 2009, 02:59:51 PM
Yes, the blankets, and no excuse as to why she decided to go to the other bathroom instead of using the one right there in the same room with her, or did she get up to get a drink of water, and why was the video that she claimed she left in the player for the children to watch not the video that was in the player when LE got there, oh and lets not forget about the pink shirt that Haleigh wore to bed that was found later in the laundry and now she has no idea what HaLeigh had on, oh and lets not forget, that the inside door on that mobile home closes as soon as you let it go so how did she walk into the kitchen and see the storm door wide open with a cinder block holding it that way, What a crock.........this girl doesnt know what the heck she is talking about, and I believe it is because she had just walked back inside that home herself just before Ronald drove up.......

I don't know, I was at work....I don't know, I was sleeping........Where is Haleigh???????

 ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 03:08:25 PM
IM, that is a good point about the blanket and Misty showing some emotion. All that blanket talk never made any sense, on and on about blankets  ::MonkeyEek::

It has always bothered me along with so many or their actions, for example how Misty states "I'd never hurt THAT CHILD", or Ron
"I'd give my life to have her's back", or "I'm going to believe she is alive until they find a body"  ::MonkeyEek::  paraphrasing here... I'd love to give you the link to that video of Misty tallking about the blanket to watch her emotions. This may also explain why they never wanted to go back to the trailer. JMO, but I think whatever happened to Haleigh happened in that trailer that night and both R/M know what happened.
That is what I believe and I have from the beginning.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 19, 2009, 03:10:58 PM

Crystal Cummings is absent, I would put my thinking cap on and wonder, why?

Teresa, I know she is struggling, where is her daughter?  Her daughter should make mom a good meal, give encouragement and put a colorful ribbon in Mom's hair, only to lift her spirits.

Where is Crystal Cummings? This may be a clue, don't ask me what kind of clue, obviously, everyone's face is there except for Ronald's sister Crystal.

I really don't follow your thinking.  She could be doing all you mentioned except the ribbons in her mom's hair, and we just don't know it.  Teresa Neves' appearance is fine.  My hair would be standing straight up on end on the top of my head if my granddaughter disappeared 6 months ago, there's a visual for you, and I wouldn't care.  Just sayin'

Do you know something about that Crystal Cummings that we don't?   Just askin'
 
I agree, and Misty would have NO hair if it was my Grandchild, she would have to have Crystal Cummings to come and get her a wig............I know its hard on Mrs.Neves, she has so many things that she tries to do, find Haleigh, keep her son in good faith, dont put down his child bride so that she can stay in touch with them and continue to be apart of her other grandchilds life,  alot to try to keep straight, I know............but I still think I would pay a little visit to Misty in the midd;e of the night with no camera's , no Ronald , no distractions at all, and she would give me some answers or else......JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 03:21:51 PM

Crystal Cummings is absent, I would put my thinking cap on and wonder, why?

Teresa, I know she is struggling, where is her daughter?  Her daughter should make mom a good meal, give encouragement and put a colorful ribbon in Mom's hair, only to lift her spirits.

Where is Crystal Cummings? This may be a clue, don't ask me what kind of clue, obviously, everyone's face is there except for Ronald's sister Crystal.

I really don't follow your thinking.  She could be doing all you mentioned except the ribbons in her mom's hair, and we just don't know it.  Teresa Neves' appearance is fine.  My hair would be standing straight up on end on the top of my head if my granddaughter disappeared 6 months ago, there's a visual for you, and I wouldn't care.  Just sayin'

Do you know something about that Crystal Cummings that we don't?   Just askin'
 
I agree, and Misty would have NO hair if it was my Grandchild, she would have to have Crystal Cummings to come and get her a wig............I know its hard on Mrs.Neves, she has so many things that she tries to do, find Haleigh, keep her son in good faith, dont put down his child bride so that she can stay in touch with them and continue to be apart of her other grandchilds life,  alot to try to keep straight, I know............but I still think I would pay a little visit to Misty in the midd;e of the night with no camera's , no Ronald , no distractions at all, and she would give me some answers or else......JMO
I can assure you so would I, this is a grandchild, enough of trying to keep peace, enough of the grandma allowing Misty to stay on her property. Have they not asked Misty any questions at all? What is going on, what is more important answers or keeping the peace? Answers would be what I would do.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: seahorse on August 19, 2009, 03:25:21 PM

Crystal Cummings is absent, I would put my thinking cap on and wonder, why?

Teresa, I know she is struggling, where is her daughter?  Her daughter should make mom a good meal, give encouragement and put a colorful ribbon in Mom's hair, only to lift her spirits.

Where is Crystal Cummings? This may be a clue, don't ask me what kind of clue, obviously, everyone's face is there except for Ronald's sister Crystal.

I really don't follow your thinking.  She could be doing all you mentioned except the ribbons in her mom's hair, and we just don't know it.  Teresa Neves' appearance is fine.  My hair would be standing straight up on end on the top of my head if my granddaughter disappeared 6 months ago, there's a visual for you, and I wouldn't care.  Just sayin'

Do you know something about that Crystal Cummings that we don't?   Just askin'


I heard Gma Sykes on NG, I saw Ms. Neves with the Balloons, I saw Ronald nailing a sign,I saw Misty, I saw Crystal Sheffield, but, there was NO CRYSTAL CUMMINGS.  This leads me to wonder if she were the family member sent over with some clothes, and not GmaS.  Ronald is cleared, CSheffield is cleared, I believe LE isn't lieing, that the parents are cleared.

The Gma's are protecting MC, who is MC protecting? One member is absent, just saying in my opinion it looks like a clue. I know nothin' and nothin', I just know what is obvious.  I am not smart at all, I just know someone is missing from picture.
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 19, 2009, 03:32:00 PM

Crystal Cummings is absent, I would put my thinking cap on and wonder, why?

Teresa, I know she is struggling, where is her daughter?  Her daughter should make mom a good meal, give encouragement and put a colorful ribbon in Mom's hair, only to lift her spirits.

Where is Crystal Cummings? This may be a clue, don't ask me what kind of clue, obviously, everyone's face is there except for Ronald's sister Crystal.

I really don't follow your thinking.  She could be doing all you mentioned except the ribbons in her mom's hair, and we just don't know it.  Teresa Neves' appearance is fine.  My hair would be standing straight up on end on the top of my head if my granddaughter disappeared 6 months ago, there's a visual for you, and I wouldn't care.  Just sayin'

Do you know something about that Crystal Cummings that we don't?   Just askin'


I heard Gma Sykes on NG, I saw Ms. Neves with the Balloons, I saw Ronald nailing a sign,I saw Misty, I saw Crystal Sheffield, but, there was NO CRYSTAL CUMMINGS.  This leads me to wonder if she were the family member sent over with some clothes, and not GmaS.  Ronald is cleared, CSheffield is cleared, I believe LE isn't lieing, that the parents are cleared.

The Gma's are protecting MC, who is MC protecting? One member is absent, just saying in my opinion it looks like a clue. I know nothin' and nothin', I just know what is obvious.  I am not smart at all, I just know someone is missing from picture.
 
I dont think Crystal Cummings was around much to begin with, I think she came around because of what was going on at the time, also I really dont think her and Misty would have a lot in common, but who knows, as crazy as this story is, anything could be a clue....and anyone could be the missing link to what happened to HaLeigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: LynneinMd. on August 19, 2009, 03:46:49 PM
I don't post very often, but have a few comments I want to get off my chest.  I find it hard to believe that for over 6 months that LE hasn't continued to lean on Misty more and more.  I would have her come into the station everyday and just ask her the same questions until she lost her mind.  As for Ron, I am surprised he hasn't beat the crap out of her to get the truth.  She is scared to death of him and just a pulled back fist should do it.  I know it would me. I believe that she wasn't home that night and left the door open so she could get back in before Ron got home from work.  I remember that Ron wouldn't let her have a key.  Did they check the washer to see if there was any residue of water from washing the blankets?
Poor Hayleigh never had a chance with this family.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 03:49:27 PM
I don't post very often, but have a few comments I want to get off my chest.  I find it hard to believe that for over 6 months that LE hasn't continued to lean on Misty more and more.  I would have her come into the station everyday and just ask her the same questions until she lost her mind.  As for Ron, I am surprised he hasn't beat the crap out of her to get the truth.  She is scared to death of him and just a pulled back fist should do it.  I know it would me. I believe that she wasn't home that night and left the door open so she could get back in before Ron got home from work.  I remember that Ron wouldn't let her have a key.  Did they check the washer to see if there was any residue of water from washing the blankets?
Poor Hayleigh never had a chance with this family.
I agree little Haleigh didn't have much of a chance, and poor little Jr  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 19, 2009, 04:17:43 PM
I don't post very often, but have a few comments I want to get off my chest.  I find it hard to believe that for over 6 months that LE hasn't continued to lean on Misty more and more.  I would have her come into the station everyday and just ask her the same questions until she lost her mind.  As for Ron, I am surprised he hasn't beat the crap out of her to get the truth.  She is scared to death of him and just a pulled back fist should do it.  I know it would me. I believe that she wasn't home that night and left the door open so she could get back in before Ron got home from work.  I remember that Ron wouldn't let her have a key.  Did they check the washer to see if there was any residue of water from washing the blankets?
Poor Hayleigh never had a chance with this family.

I agree with all of the above, especially the last sentance.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 19, 2009, 04:35:45 PM
I am a bit confused about why news sources are acting like it is news that Misty's interviews with LE have had inconsistencies and that a valid time line has not been established with information supplied by her. That has been the case all along. Why is this just now being viewed as "news"?

I went through my "notes" that I kept by quoting news stories, and this is what I came up with:

Haleigh disappeared on Feb. 10, 2009

Misty interviewed by LE on Feb. 18 and 19.

March 11
: Misty interviewed again by LE. More LE interviews: (Ronald Cummings and Misty Croslin again questioned in attempt to develop a time line. ) "Misty is the key to the investigation and we are trying to work through inconsistencies in her account of the critical time period," Bowling said. Croslin ended her interview with detectives Wednesday and walked out during questioning, Bowling said. Investigators also met with the 25-year-old Cummings, he said. "We are satisfied with the interviews that we have had so far with Ronald, and his account of the eight hours in question," Bowling added. (My note: I do not believe Misty has consented to any further LE interviews since this date.)

March 13: Captain Dick Schauland confirmed Friday morning that investigators do have concerns about the time line Misty has provided. Schauland told First Coast News, "What happened during that eight-hour time period from 7 p.m. to 3 a.m. when she found the child missing and what occurred during that time is what [investigators] are trying to straighten out." The same day, the newlyweds were interviewed on the "Today Show," where Croslin was unable to explain her inconsistent accounts to police. When asked why Misty walked out on LE interview by Meredith Viera Misty said, "There was a new ummm guy, a new guy to the case and I didn't feel comfortable with him. He was just being very rude to me." She went on to say he was yelling and calling her a liar. Then Ronald chimed in and said, "After passing the polygraph tests!" (Below, I added a picture of Misty when she was asked by Meredith Viera to clear up the inconsistencies of her story about what happened that night. You can see here, Misty is glancing at Ronald, seemingly hoping he will answer for her. She ended up just saying, "I don't know.")

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/inconsistencies.png)

March 16: Investigators don't have any searches planned for Haleigh Cummings Monday but they're continuing to follow leads and try to nail down a time line with Misty Croslin Cummings. Captain Dick Schauland with the Putnam County Sheriff's Office said Misty has already spent more than 30 hours talking to detectives. But they still don't have a solid time line for the period when Haleigh disappeared. Schauland said Misty has been inconsistent in her account of what happened during the eight-hour time period from 7 p.m. to 3 a.m.

May 7: Investigators have gotten close to 4,000 tips and done more than 200 interviews. They wouldn't talk specifics about Misty Croslin, Haleigh's babysitter that night, and now her fathers wife. They have interviewed Misty about ten times and will only say there's problems with her story.

June 7: Misty Cummings has been a focal point of law enforcement throughout the investigation. Investigators are frustrated with her inability to give them a consistent time line of the events the day Haleigh disappeared.

So again, I am wondering why the inconsistencies and lack of time line by Misty are considered "news" this week.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: seahorse on August 19, 2009, 04:36:08 PM

Crystal Cummings is absent, I would put my thinking cap on and wonder, why?

Teresa, I know she is struggling, where is her daughter?  Her daughter should make mom a good meal, give encouragement and put a colorful ribbon in Mom's hair, only to lift her spirits.

Where is Crystal Cummings? This may be a clue, don't ask me what kind of clue, obviously, everyone's face is there except for Ronald's sister Crystal.

I really don't follow your thinking.  She could be doing all you mentioned except the ribbons in her mom's hair, and we just don't know it.  Teresa Neves' appearance is fine.  My hair would be standing straight up on end on the top of my head if my granddaughter disappeared 6 months ago, there's a visual for you, and I wouldn't care.  Just sayin'

Do you know something about that Crystal Cummings that we don't?   Just askin'


I heard Gma Sykes on NG, I saw Ms. Neves with the Balloons, I saw Ronald nailing a sign,I saw Misty, I saw Crystal Sheffield, but, there was NO CRYSTAL CUMMINGS.  This leads me to wonder if she were the family member sent over with some clothes, and not GmaS.  Ronald is cleared, CSheffield is cleared, I believe LE isn't lieing, that the parents are cleared.

The Gma's are protecting MC, who is MC protecting? One member is absent, just saying in my opinion it looks like a clue. I know nothin' and nothin', I just know what is obvious.  I am not smart at all, I just know someone is missing from picture.
 
I dont think Crystal Cummings was around much to begin with, I think she came around because of what was going on at the time, also I really dont think her and Misty would have a lot in common, but who knows, as crazy as this story is, anything could be a clue....and anyone could be the missing link to what happened to HaLeigh.


LOL true anything in happen in this case.  Cr Cum has a RECORD, but, so does everyone else in this case! 

Gma Sykes did not mention to NG (last night )anything more about the timeline of her visiting the children when they were eating

supper on the porch.  I would have said, I know I was visiting the children when they eating supper and after that I couldn't tell
 
you anything more.  GmaS did not rehash that visit.  Yes, CC wasn't around much, true, but on a "birthday" balloon festival, she

should have been there for appearance sake, but, again, I have not confirmed that she wasn't, she wasn't on camera. font]




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 19, 2009, 04:46:01 PM
I am a bit confused about why news sources are acting like it is news that Misty's interviews with LE have had inconsistencies and that a valid time line has not been established with information supplied by her. That has been the case all along. Why is this just now being viewed as "news"?

I went through my "notes" that I kept by quoting news stories, and this is what I came up with:

Haleigh disappeared on Feb. 10, 2009

Misty interviewed by LE on Feb. 18 and 19.

March 11
: Misty interviewed again by LE. More LE interviews: (Ronald Cummings and Misty Croslin again questioned in attempt to develop a time line. ) "Misty is the key to the investigation and we are trying to work through inconsistencies in her account of the critical time period," Bowling said. Croslin ended her interview with detectives Wednesday and walked out during questioning, Bowling said. Investigators also met with the 25-year-old Cummings, he said. "We are satisfied with the interviews that we have had so far with Ronald, and his account of the eight hours in question," Bowling added. (My note: I do not believe Misty has consented to any further LE interviews since this date.)

March 13: Captain Dick Schauland confirmed Friday morning that investigators do have concerns about the time line Misty has provided. Schauland told First Coast News, "What happened during that eight-hour time period from 7 p.m. to 3 a.m. when she found the child missing and what occurred during that time is what [investigators] are trying to straighten out." The same day, the newlyweds were interviewed on the "Today Show," where Croslin was unable to explain her inconsistent accounts to police. When asked why Misty walked out on LE interview by Meredith Viera Misty said, "There was a new ummm guy, a new guy to the case and I didn't feel comfortable with him. He was just being very rude to me." She went on to say he was yelling and calling her a liar. Then Ronald chimed in and said, "After passing the polygraph tests!" (Below, I added a picture of Misty when she was asked by Meredith Viera to clear up the inconsistencies of her story about what happened that night. You can see here, Misty is glancing at Ronald, seemingly hoping he will answer for her. She ended up just saying, "I don't know.")

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/inconsistencies.png)

March 16: Investigators don't have any searches planned for Haleigh Cummings Monday but they're continuing to follow leads and try to nail down a time line with Misty Croslin Cummings. Captain Dick Schauland with the Putnam County Sheriff's Office said Misty has already spent more than 30 hours talking to detectives. But they still don't have a solid time line for the period when Haleigh disappeared. Schauland said Misty has been inconsistent in her account of what happened during the eight-hour time period from 7 p.m. to 3 a.m.

May 7: Investigators have gotten close to 4,000 tips and done more than 200 interviews. They wouldn't talk specifics about Misty Croslin, Haleigh's babysitter that night, and now her fathers wife. They have interviewed Misty about ten times and will only say there's problems with her story.

June 7: Misty Cummings has been a focal point of law enforcement throughout the investigation. Investigators are frustrated with her inability to give them a consistent time line of the events the day Haleigh disappeared.

So again, I am wondering why the inconsistencies and lack of time line by Misty are considered "news" this week.


Brandi - I agree and have been scratching my head wondering what the deal is?  This is nothing new, LE is just repeating what they have always said.  Misty needs to come clean.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 19, 2009, 04:54:16 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing97.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh

I'm just bringing forward this beautiful picture by Brandi.  Hope that is ok.   ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 19, 2009, 04:54:35 PM
I think with the passing of Haleighs birthday and the news that Tim Miller will do another search, the most important thing that has happened is that Haleigh has been put back in the spotlight, where in my opinion she should have been the entire 6 months, and I kinda got mad at NG last night when she said, we have gotten everyones e-mails and phone calls about Haleigh but until this time there was no new news,.........alot of bickering going between the bio parents, .....well so what, is that any of HaLeighs fault, is that a reason to just ignore her case, why could you not at least just post a picture of her everynight and at least say, she was still missing, I know, she wasnt news until all the hoopla over her birthday and thats why NG jumped back on the train with the update on HaLeigh,...........Im happy she did do a show on her but I say, I hope she will continue to at least post her picture and say a few words for her even after this has died down, HaLeigh cant help what everybody is doing, she is still gone and deserves to be kept at the top..... MOO!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 19, 2009, 05:19:23 PM
I think with the passing of Haleighs birthday and the news that Tim Miller will do another search, the most important thing that has happened is that Haleigh has been put back in the spotlight, where in my opinion she should have been the entire 6 months, and I kinda got mad at NG last night when she said, we have gotten everyones e-mails and phone calls about Haleigh but until this time there was no new news,.........alot of bickering going between the bio parents, .....well so what, is that any of HaLeighs fault, is that a reason to just ignore her case, why could you not at least just post a picture of her everynight and at least say, she was still missing, I know, she wasnt news until all the hoopla over her birthday and thats why NG jumped back on the train with the update on HaLeigh,...........Im happy she did do a show on her but I say, I hope she will continue to at least post her picture and say a few words for her even after this has died down, HaLeigh cant help what everybody is doing, she is still gone and deserves to be kept at the top..... MOO!!!


Personally I agree that Misty being the "key" is nothing new, but maybe the new upcoming TES search IS ::MonkeyCheer2::.  I know many out there think Haleigh was whisked away by Crystal or someone related to CS's family and were keeping her and moving her around (IMO I never thought that was remotely possible), but with TES and TM coming in and arranging a search when it's most condusive to finding (not going to say the word, but I think y'all follow).  Then maybe it also involves TN calling in MN, but beyond that there was nothing new IMO

FYI~Nancy Grace should be ashamed of herself about the lack of coverage on this and so many other MP cases  ::MonkeyNoNo:: SHE could have chosen to follow it even thru "the bickering", but she came across so pathetically biased before I honetly think she was afraid to touch it again., but she has no one to blame but herself on this one as I bet we could all use less MJ coverage or re-hashing on same on BOMBSHELL every freaking day. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 19, 2009, 05:38:52 PM
Brandi...great post..good note taking as usual!

Cece...great picture of Haleigh..thanks..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 05:42:31 PM
Probably not new news, but it is the timing that is interesting. The thing that makes little sense is that after six months LE thinks that someone is going to come forward now saying, yes, I saw Misty out and about that evening.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 19, 2009, 06:01:06 PM
Plaintiffs
CUMMINGS MISTY J  Defendants
CROSLIN JR HANK T 


Date Docket Description
2009-08-06 001.PETITION FOR INJUNCTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE 

2009-08-06 002.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE 

2009-08-06 003.TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION 08/19/09 AT 09:30 

2009-08-10 004.RTN OF SVC-SVD 08/06/09 - IND - TEMP 

2009-08-19 005.FAMILY COURT MINUTES 

2009-08-19 006.ORDER EXTENDING TEMPORARY INJUNCTION 09/09/09 09:30 

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 19, 2009, 06:02:45 PM
Probably not new news, but it is the timing that is interesting. The thing that makes little sense is that after six months LE thinks that someone is going to come forward now saying, yes, I saw Misty out and about that evening.
I think that the reason LE made this report at this particular time was not because they think someone will come forward with some info, and not because they think someone will say, I was there that night,   it was because they are trying with all their might to put the heat on Misty, to make her understand just how much trouble she is in and that hers lies arent adding up and that she is the ONLY person of interest they are wanting answers from. not Crystal, not Ronald, but her...they are hoping to stir up trouble for her at home and in the media, they are hoping that with all the weight of this and poosibly the n family might start to look at her and ask questions also will cause her to do something....anything;;;;; MOO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 19, 2009, 06:11:56 PM
Haleigh Cummings – BNN Radio – TJ Hart Speaks Out!Posted on August 19th, 2009
http://www.bloggernews.net/121950
"The Press Release from the PCSO on Monday was a very eye opening event. Haleigh Cummings has been missing for six months, and anyone following the search knows that Law Enforcement are not willing to share a great deal of their findings or ideas with the press or the general public.

The problem has been exacerbated by some wild news stories that have originated from the blogosphere.

I am sad that here we are six months later and Haleigh Cummings is still missing. In those six months I have learned a great deal about the press, and the Internet. The press gets beaten regularly for its coverage of stories. Some of it is richly deserved! However there are also members of the press that are not looking for the spin, they have a real interest in the story.

One such person is TJ Hart. There is an old saying ‘The law of unintended consequences’. How true it is. If it were not for Haleigh Cummings I might never have talked to TJ.

He is a regular on our Sunday talk radio show, but that venue offers little depth, we are too busy answering questions to actually talk.

I was delighted at the prospect of a one-on-one with TJ.

He was a guest on the Nancy Grace show last night, and will be on Prime News tonight.

You can hear the whole discussion here. Some of which might surprise you. Haleigh Cummings is missing, and through the work of people like TJ Hart we might find her.

Lets pool our resources, forget the idiots, they are what they are!

Simon Barrett"


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 19, 2009, 06:13:38 PM
Plaintiffs
CUMMINGS MISTY J  Defendants
CROSLIN JR HANK T 


Date Docket Description
2009-08-06 001.PETITION FOR INJUNCTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE 

2009-08-06 002.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE 

2009-08-06 003.TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION 08/19/09 AT 09:30 

2009-08-10 004.RTN OF SVC-SVD 08/06/09 - IND - TEMP 

2009-08-19 005.FAMILY COURT MINUTES 

2009-08-19 006.ORDER EXTENDING TEMPORARY INJUNCTION 09/09/09 09:30 

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php


So Misty has filed and been given a restraining order against her father, that has been extended until Sept. 9, 2009 ?

That's how I read it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 06:19:18 PM
Probably not new news, but it is the timing that is interesting. The thing that makes little sense is that after six months LE thinks that someone is going to come forward now saying, yes, I saw Misty out and about that evening.
I think that the reason LE made this report at this particular time was not because they think someone will come forward with some info, and not because they think someone will say, I was there that night,   it was because they are trying with all their might to put the heat on Misty, to make her understand just how much trouble she is in and that hers lies arent adding up and that she is the ONLY person of interest they are wanting answers from. not Crystal, not Ronald, but her...they are hoping to stir up trouble for her at home and in the media, they are hoping that with all the weight of this and poosibly the n family might start to look at her and ask questions also will cause her to do something....anything;;;;; MOO
That makes sense. The restraining order is for Misty's brother not father.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 19, 2009, 06:21:01 PM
http://www.bloggernews.net/121948

Missing Children … What A World We Live In!
Posted on August 19th, 2009
by Armando in Society and Culture, crime

(snipped)

We as parents must go out of our ways daily to secure our children’s lives. Like I’ve said before “They are the future but we must preserve their now” It’s our only duty as parents. When having children you give up everything and become the most selfless person ever to be. Parents tend to sometimes get frustrated and try to blow of steam by going to clubs, or friend’s houses to party or whatever, and that’s when it happens. Don’t look away. Keep your eyes on your children always, incase someone is lurking and plotting. We must step up and become true parents in this world; it’s for the kids not us. We had our fun. Now let’s provide a safe environment for them to enjoy their turn at some well deserved FUN!

My blessings to all the families with missing children and I pray that they are safely returned to you. My prayers for Haleigh Ann Marie Cummings missing since dawn on Feb. 10th 2009.

Armando


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 19, 2009, 06:21:33 PM
Plaintiffs
CUMMINGS MISTY J  Defendants
CROSLIN JR HANK T 


Date Docket Description
2009-08-06 001.PETITION FOR INJUNCTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE 

2009-08-06 002.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE 

2009-08-06 003.TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION 08/19/09 AT 09:30 

2009-08-10 004.RTN OF SVC-SVD 08/06/09 - IND - TEMP 

2009-08-19 005.FAMILY COURT MINUTES 

2009-08-19 006.ORDER EXTENDING TEMPORARY INJUNCTION 09/09/09 09:30 

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php


So Misty has filed and been given a restraining order against her father, that has been extended until Sept. 9, 2009 ?

That's how I read it.

hi brandi.

The restraining order Misty filed was  against her brother.. IMO.. It was extended because it  was postponed to  Sept 9th, 2009...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 19, 2009, 06:25:02 PM
Probably not new news, but it is the timing that is interesting. The thing that makes little sense is that after six months LE thinks that someone is going to come forward now saying, yes, I saw Misty out and about that evening.
I think that the reason LE made this report at this particular time was not because they think someone will come forward with some info, and not because they think someone will say, I was there that night,   it was because they are trying with all their might to put the heat on Misty, to make her understand just how much trouble she is in and that hers lies arent adding up and that she is the ONLY person of interest they are wanting answers from. not Crystal, not Ronald, but her...they are hoping to stir up trouble for her at home and in the media, they are hoping that with all the weight of this and poosibly the n family might start to look at her and ask questions also will cause her to do something....anything;;;;; MOO
That makes sense. The restraining order is for Misty's brother not father.
Yes Rose, just think about them sitting there day in and day out, we dont know what goes on between them on a day to day basis, Maybe Ronald will say, are you sure you dont know something, Maybe Granny will say, come one Misty, you can tell me, we just dont know, but I do know that someone in that family has to wonder about all this media stuff going on right now and will possibly question her again, which might possibly make her mad and then all hell just might break loose, and if she knows something on Ronald she just might tell someone about that too.....MOO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 19, 2009, 06:25:53 PM
Plaintiffs
CUMMINGS MISTY J  Defendants
CROSLIN JR HANK T 


Date Docket Description
2009-08-06 001.PETITION FOR INJUNCTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE 

2009-08-06 002.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE 

2009-08-06 003.TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION 08/19/09 AT 09:30 

2009-08-10 004.RTN OF SVC-SVD 08/06/09 - IND - TEMP 

2009-08-19 005.FAMILY COURT MINUTES 

2009-08-19 006.ORDER EXTENDING TEMPORARY INJUNCTION 09/09/09 09:30 

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php


So Misty has filed and been given a restraining order against her father, that has been extended until Sept. 9, 2009 ?

That's how I read it.

hi brandi.

The restraining order Misty filed was  against her brother.. IMO.. It was extended because it  was postponed to  Sept 9th, 2009...

I forgot to add this was a temporary restraining order until its heard in front of a judge. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 19, 2009, 06:31:18 PM
KRISTINA  RENEE  PREVATT
PALATKA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 8/11/2009 4:17:53 PM  - Booking#: 09-03302
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 5/30/1990 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
843.15-1a   FAILURE TO APPEAR    F   T    $0.00    
843.15-1a   FAILURE TO APPEAR    F   T    $0.00    
784.048-2   STALKING FOLLOW HARASS CYBERSTALK ANOTHER   M   F    $1,504.00    
893.13-6a   COCAINE-POSSESS POSSESS COCAINE   F   T    $1,004.00    
893.147-1   NARCOTIC EQUIP-POSSESS AND OR USE   M   F    $504.00    
843.15-1a   FAILURE TO APPEAR    F   T    $1,004.00    8/19/2009 5:07:23 PM
843.15-1a   FAILURE TO APPEAR    F   T    $1,004.00    8/19/2009 5:07:43 PM
                $5,020.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=755794&IMG=37631


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 19, 2009, 06:37:19 PM
Plaintiffs
CUMMINGS MISTY J  Defendants
CROSLIN JR HANK T 


Date Docket Description
2009-08-06 001.PETITION FOR INJUNCTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE 

2009-08-06 002.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE 

2009-08-06 003.TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION 08/19/09 AT 09:30 

2009-08-10 004.RTN OF SVC-SVD 08/06/09 - IND - TEMP 

2009-08-19 005.FAMILY COURT MINUTES 

2009-08-19 006.ORDER EXTENDING TEMPORARY INJUNCTION 09/09/09 09:30 

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php


So Misty has filed and been given a restraining order against her father, that has been extended until Sept. 9, 2009 ?

That's how I read it.

hi brandi.

The restraining order Misty filed was  against her brother.. IMO.. It was extended because it  was postponed to  Sept 9th, 2009...

Hey JG!

Oh, my bad!

Thanks for letting me know. Yes, Against her brother, Hank.

(I seem to be a little out of practice.) So sorry for the error!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 19, 2009, 06:39:43 PM
Plaintiffs
CUMMINGS MISTY J  Defendants
CROSLIN JR HANK T 


Date Docket Description
2009-08-06 001.PETITION FOR INJUNCTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE 

2009-08-06 002.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE 

2009-08-06 003.TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION 08/19/09 AT 09:30 

2009-08-10 004.RTN OF SVC-SVD 08/06/09 - IND - TEMP 

2009-08-19 005.FAMILY COURT MINUTES 

2009-08-19 006.ORDER EXTENDING TEMPORARY INJUNCTION 09/09/09 09:30 

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php


So Misty has filed and been given a restraining order against her father, that has been extended until Sept. 9, 2009 ?

That's how I read it.

hi brandi.

The restraining order Misty filed was  against her brother.. IMO.. It was extended because it  was postponed to  Sept 9th, 2009...

Hey JG!

Oh, my bad!

Thanks for letting me know. Yes, Against her brother, Hank.

(I seem to be a little out of practice.) So sorry for the error!

Glad to see ya... It gets confusing.... ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: akmom on August 19, 2009, 06:43:58 PM
KRISTINA  RENEE  PREVATT
PALATKA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 8/11/2009 4:17:53 PM  - Booking#: 09-03302
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 5/30/1990 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
843.15-1a   FAILURE TO APPEAR    F   T    $0.00    
843.15-1a   FAILURE TO APPEAR    F   T    $0.00    
784.048-2   STALKING FOLLOW HARASS CYBERSTALK ANOTHER   M   F    $1,504.00    
893.13-6a   COCAINE-POSSESS POSSESS COCAINE   F   T    $1,004.00    
893.147-1   NARCOTIC EQUIP-POSSESS AND OR USE   M   F    $504.00    
843.15-1a   FAILURE TO APPEAR    F   T    $1,004.00    8/19/2009 5:07:23 PM
843.15-1a   FAILURE TO APPEAR    F   T    $1,004.00    8/19/2009 5:07:43 PM
                $5,020.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=755794&IMG=37631

This girl has always sent up red flags for me.  I have always wondered if she led the men she was alleged to have partied with to Haileigh, or told them about her.  Anyone else think this is possible?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 19, 2009, 06:52:01 PM
KRISTINA  RENEE  PREVATT
PALATKA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 8/11/2009 4:17:53 PM  - Booking#: 09-03302
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 5/30/1990 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
843.15-1a   FAILURE TO APPEAR    F   T    $0.00    
843.15-1a   FAILURE TO APPEAR    F   T    $0.00    
784.048-2   STALKING FOLLOW HARASS CYBERSTALK ANOTHER   M   F    $1,504.00    
893.13-6a   COCAINE-POSSESS POSSESS COCAINE   F   T    $1,004.00    
893.147-1   NARCOTIC EQUIP-POSSESS AND OR USE   M   F    $504.00    
843.15-1a   FAILURE TO APPEAR    F   T    $1,004.00    8/19/2009 5:07:23 PM
843.15-1a   FAILURE TO APPEAR    F   T    $1,004.00    8/19/2009 5:07:43 PM
                $5,020.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=755794&IMG=37631

This girl has always sent up red flags for me.  I have always wondered if she led the men she was alleged to have partied with to Haileigh, or told them about her.  Anyone else think this is possible?

Hi akmom!

Well, I never singled her out as someone I suspected of doing this, but, it's always possible, IMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 19, 2009, 06:52:41 PM
KRISTINA  RENEE  PREVATT
PALATKA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 8/11/2009 4:17:53 PM  - Booking#: 09-03302
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 5/30/1990 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
843.15-1a   FAILURE TO APPEAR    F   T    $0.00    
843.15-1a   FAILURE TO APPEAR    F   T    $0.00    
784.048-2   STALKING FOLLOW HARASS CYBERSTALK ANOTHER   M   F    $1,504.00    
893.13-6a   COCAINE-POSSESS POSSESS COCAINE   F   T    $1,004.00    
893.147-1   NARCOTIC EQUIP-POSSESS AND OR USE   M   F    $504.00    
843.15-1a   FAILURE TO APPEAR    F   T    $1,004.00    8/19/2009 5:07:23 PM
843.15-1a   FAILURE TO APPEAR    F   T    $1,004.00    8/19/2009 5:07:43 PM
                $5,020.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=755794&IMG=37631

This girl has always sent up red flags for me.  I have always wondered if she led the men she was alleged to have partied with to Haileigh, or told them about her.  Anyone else think this is possible?

The Brooks have been of interest to me, and WBG and Prevatt as well.
Amber and Misty got into during that 3 day drug partying spree.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 19, 2009, 07:26:48 PM
Had not seen this picture of Haleigh before, so I just had to use it!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing99.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 19, 2009, 07:27:49 PM
That's really cute, Brandi.  Thanks. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 19, 2009, 07:35:00 PM
Beautiful picture of Haleigh...

Thanks Brandi....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 19, 2009, 07:36:07 PM
That's really cute, Brandi.  Thanks. 

Thank you.

Looks like the forum software is now resizing images when we post them?

Odd.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 19, 2009, 07:48:25 PM
That's really cute, Brandi.  Thanks. 

Thank you.

Looks like the forum software is now resizing images when we post them?

Odd.

Not that I'm aware of.  I'll go test with something really big.

I just tested and it's not resizing mine?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=114.msg915072#msg915072


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 19, 2009, 08:05:27 PM
That's really cute, Brandi.  Thanks. 

Thank you.

Looks like the forum software is now resizing images when we post them?

Odd.

Not that I'm aware of.  I'll go test with something really big.

I just tested and it's not resizing mine?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=114.msg915072#msg915072

If you right click on any image here you will see it as it should be ... looks like approx. 10% smaller when on the forum. Even our avatars are smaller now.

 ::MonkeyEek::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 19, 2009, 08:13:36 PM
That's really cute, Brandi.  Thanks. 

Thank you.

Looks like the forum software is now resizing images when we post them?

Odd.

Not that I'm aware of.  I'll go test with something really big.

I just tested and it's not resizing mine?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=114.msg915072#msg915072

If you right click on any image here you will see it as it should be ... looks like approx. 10% smaller when on the forum. Even our avatars are smaller now.

 ::MonkeyEek::



Left you a reply in the test area. Sorry for the O/T here.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 19, 2009, 08:17:42 PM
That's really cute, Brandi.  Thanks. 

Thank you.

Looks like the forum software is now resizing images when we post them?

Odd.

Not that I'm aware of.  I'll go test with something really big.

I just tested and it's not resizing mine?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=114.msg915072#msg915072

If you right click on any image here you will see it as it should be ... looks like approx. 10% smaller when on the forum. Even our avatars are smaller now.

 ::MonkeyEek::



They may have done an upgrade, I'll have to ask.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: seahorse on August 19, 2009, 09:12:50 PM
KRISTINA  RENEE  PREVATT
PALATKA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 8/11/2009 4:17:53 PM  - Booking#: 09-03302
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 5/30/1990 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
843.15-1a   FAILURE TO APPEAR    F   T    $0.00    
843.15-1a   FAILURE TO APPEAR    F   T    $0.00    
784.048-2   STALKING FOLLOW HARASS CYBERSTALK ANOTHER   M   F    $1,504.00    
893.13-6a   COCAINE-POSSESS POSSESS COCAINE   F   T    $1,004.00    
893.147-1   NARCOTIC EQUIP-POSSESS AND OR USE   M   F    $504.00    
843.15-1a   FAILURE TO APPEAR    F   T    $1,004.00    8/19/2009 5:07:23 PM
843.15-1a   FAILURE TO APPEAR    F   T    $1,004.00    8/19/2009 5:07:43 PM
                $5,020.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=755794&IMG=37631

This girl has always sent up red flags for me.  I have always wondered if she led the men she was alleged to have partied with to Haileigh, or told them about her.  Anyone else think this is possible?

1. What if they had a Orgy?


2. What if the Brothel guys came looking for the girls, did the girls rip them off?  Accepting money and not delivering?
  Why were the girls at the Brothel?  not to collect the money, that is why WBG was there.  Did MC and NN make the coffee?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 19, 2009, 09:14:48 PM
Well Monkeys, no news tonight on JVM or NG, I still hold out hope that with all the publicity and the LE making the statement, Misty will talk, to LE, to her friend, to her cousin, to anybody.........God Bless Haleigh..................


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 09:43:52 PM
Well Monkeys, no news tonight on JVM or NG, I still hold out hope that with all the publicity and the LE making the statement, Misty will talk, to LE, to her friend, to her cousin, to anybody.........God Bless Haleigh..................
If she hasn't talked by now, I can't imagine her doing any talking soon, but one never knows.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 19, 2009, 10:51:06 PM
I dont know for sure  if this is Misty's attorney...

Misty’s attorney Robert Fields said he and Croslin-Cummings would work with investigators if needed.

“I don’t know where it’s going to go,” Fields said. “I think at this point I am going to have to be involved to some degree.”

http://justiceforhaleigh.wordpress.com/



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 20, 2009, 08:27:35 AM
Good Morning All!

CBS show questions Haleigh's family

By Kristin Chambers
Published: Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:01 AM EDT

In a Wednesday morning interview with CBS's "The Early Show," Teresa Neves, Haleigh Cummings' paternal grandmother, said she does not think 17-year-old Misty Croslin had a part in her granddaughter's disappearance.

"I hope she did not," Neves told CBS reporter Jeff Glor.

Neves was unsure if a different story remains untold by Croslin, who married Neves' son and Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, a month after the child vanished.

"I don't know that there is anything I haven't heard," Neves said. "I don't know what they've heard. It's hard for me to say."

Early in the year, Croslin told the NBC's "The Today Show" Haleigh was missing when she awoke after 3 a.m.

Investigators say the 17-year-old failed to provide a detailed account of what happened between 10 p.m. - when she said she fell asleep next to Haleigh - and the time she awoke to discover the child missing. Physical evidence of the scene also contradicts what she told police, they have said.

Attorney Mark NeJame accompanied Neves during the interview, which was filmed in Putnam County.

"There are certain areas with a large question mark hovering over them," NeJame said. "I think that is the focus of the investigation. We have been brought on to assist with that by bringing renewed attention to the investigation because there are unanswered questions."

He added, "I think the police are quite appropriate in trying to piece together that puzzle. What happened in that five hours and where's Haleigh?"

Neves continues to believe Haleigh is alive.

"I do, I believe God will bring her home, and I believe without faith and hope, you don't have anything to cling to," she said.

A search for Haleigh is set to resume in four to six weeks by EquuSearch, a Texas-based search group.

Haleigh was discovered missing at 3:27 a.m. on Feb. 10, and no sign of the 6-year-old has been found.

kchambers@palatkadailynews.com

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/08/20/news/news01.txt


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 20, 2009, 09:19:29 AM
This has been bothering me since yesterday, maybe I'm reading to much into it  ::MonkeyRoll::   Ron and Crystal were not considered suspects. But they did not come out and say that either one was cleared. And that Misty was not a suspect either.  ::MonkeyConfused:: That Misty can't or won't tell all she knows. Is it even remotely possible that Misty really doesn't know what happened, that she was sleeping deeply, maybe from drugs?

I don't put much stock into LE saying they are not considered suspects.  I've seen LE in many cases over the years say someone is not a suspect then arrest them later that day.  It just doesn't mean any more to me than they can't call them a suspect at this time.

LE saying Misty is not cooperative and needs to tell what she knows is much more telling to me.

On August 18, 2009 (2 days ago) Dana Treen reported in Jacksonville.com that: Bowling said it takes rock-solid alibis before detectives can eliminate anyone and those have not been established. He said the best that can be done is assign degrees of suspicion to people.

“Where is the responsibility in saying somebody is not a suspect?” he said.

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-08-09/story/haleighs_family_remains_divided_6_months_later


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Rose Red on August 20, 2009, 09:31:50 AM
Some may have seen this already,.. Some, maybe not ..

I found an article that lead me to this psychics website.. It says her name is Rita & the website address is lifespassages.com ..

Below is what she had posted concerning Haleigh .. Dated -

February 11 2009 -

- Misty holds the key to Haleigh’s whereabouts.
- Misty (girlfriend) not at home night of kidnapping.
- Friend of friend over a couple of times.
- Nice to both children, especially the girl.
- Name begins with J or B 5′ 10″ to 6′
- Thin, tan, rough.
- Pickup truck was lighter green.  Was overpainted very dark green – almost black.
- Not currently in area.
- Friends and relatives in area and out of state.
- Man not on sex offender list.
- Headed west.
- Possibly in Georgia

March 11 2009

- Misty will be in handcuffs – arrested.
- Misty running cops in circles.
- Ron is completely innocent, has nothing to do with it.

April 28 2009

- All the players in the Haleigh Cummings case live on excitement.  They have been purposely leading Law Enforcement in circles.  Law Enforcement needs to look beyond the people they have been presently talking with and beyond Satsuma.

...

Just thought someone else might find it interesting .. I did .





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 20, 2009, 09:52:39 AM
No offense, but I have to question any psychic attempting to make money off of missing persons cases.

http://lifespassages.com/

PRICING - PSYCHIC RITA PUTS YOU IN CHARGE:
YOU DETERMINE THE LENGTH OF YOUR READING BASED UPON YOUR OWN NEEDS.

You will be able to determine how much you want to be billed at the rate of  $34.90 for a 10 minute session.

This is $3.49 a minute in case you want to figure out the cost when you add more time.

YOUR PRIVACY: When you choose to have a reading with Rita, your privacy and confidentiality, on her part, is ASSURED!

Rita will not give your name, birth date or email information to anyone for any purpose!  Rita does not sell, rent or give away client’s information to anyone for any reason.  Rita does not personally set cookies, nor does she personally utilize any other type of information gathering software or programs on her website.

There are no refunds.  For entertainment purposes only.  You must be 18 years of age or older to order a Tarot Psychic reading.
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Rose Red on August 20, 2009, 09:58:49 AM
No offense, but I have to question any psychic attempting to make money off of missing persons cases.

http://lifespassages.com/

PRICING - PSYCHIC RITA PUTS YOU IN CHARGE:
YOU DETERMINE THE LENGTH OF YOUR READING BASED UPON YOUR OWN NEEDS.

You will be able to determine how much you want to be billed at the rate of  $34.90 for a 10 minute session.

This is $3.49 a minute in case you want to figure out the cost when you add more time.

YOUR PRIVACY: When you choose to have a reading with Rita, your privacy and confidentiality, on her part, is ASSURED!

Rita will not give your name, birth date or email information to anyone for any purpose!  Rita does not sell, rent or give away client’s information to anyone for any reason.  Rita does not personally set cookies, nor does she personally utilize any other type of information gathering software or programs on her website.

There are no refunds.  For entertainment purposes only.  You must be 18 years of age or older to order a Tarot Psychic reading.
 


Good Golly Gosh,.. I wasn't plugging her site ! .. I didn't want to dare post anything I read from another site without giving a link as to where it came from ..




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 20, 2009, 10:02:36 AM
Rose Red - I didn't say you were plugging the site, I was just giving my personal opinion of psychics in these missing persons cases.  I'm affraid Brian's Dreams ruined any faith I had in psychics.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 20, 2009, 10:10:18 AM
No offense, but I have to question any psychic attempting to make money off of missing persons cases.

http://lifespassages.com/

PRICING - PSYCHIC RITA PUTS YOU IN CHARGE:
YOU DETERMINE THE LENGTH OF YOUR READING BASED UPON YOUR OWN NEEDS.

You will be able to determine how much you want to be billed at the rate of  $34.90 for a 10 minute session.

This is $3.49 a minute in case you want to figure out the cost when you add more time.

YOUR PRIVACY: When you choose to have a reading with Rita, your privacy and confidentiality, on her part, is ASSURED!

Rita will not give your name, birth date or email information to anyone for any purpose!  Rita does not sell, rent or give away client’s information to anyone for any reason.  Rita does not personally set cookies, nor does she personally utilize any other type of information gathering software or programs on her website.

There are no refunds.  For entertainment purposes only.  You must be 18 years of age or older to order a Tarot Psychic reading.
 

I'll be happy to entertain anyone for 3.49 per minute.........any takers  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 20, 2009, 11:57:13 AM
No offense, but I have to question any psychic attempting to make money off of missing persons cases.

http://lifespassages.com/

PRICING - PSYCHIC RITA PUTS YOU IN CHARGE:
YOU DETERMINE THE LENGTH OF YOUR READING BASED UPON YOUR OWN NEEDS.

You will be able to determine how much you want to be billed at the rate of  $34.90 for a 10 minute session.

This is $3.49 a minute in case you want to figure out the cost when you add more time.

YOUR PRIVACY: When you choose to have a reading with Rita, your privacy and confidentiality, on her part, is ASSURED!

Rita will not give your name, birth date or email information to anyone for any purpose!  Rita does not sell, rent or give away client’s information to anyone for any reason.  Rita does not personally set cookies, nor does she personally utilize any other type of information gathering software or programs on her website.

There are no refunds.  For entertainment purposes only.  You must be 18 years of age or older to order a Tarot Psychic reading.
 

I'll be happy to entertain anyone for 3.49 per minute.........any takers  ::MonkeyDevil2::


 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 20, 2009, 12:15:27 PM
Rose Red - I didn't say you were plugging the site, I was just giving my personal opinion of psychics in these missing persons cases.  I'm affraid Brian's Dreams ruined any faith I had in psychics.

One of the first things they tell you (missing persons folks) when reporting your loved one is "do not" entertain the psychics, "do not" speak to nor listen to them. That is after they tell you they need a photo or photos, set up an account for donations to go toward searches/reward and what to expect from LE.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on August 20, 2009, 12:47:42 PM
Neves and Sykes have been standing behind Misty. Misty has now been named. Misty lives with Sykes and Ron.
So, think they have happy little family dinners now ? Like after they behead rats and put them in mailboxes ?
I guess they LE want to have some more combustion over at the Sykes trailer.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 20, 2009, 12:50:22 PM
Neves and Sykes have been standing behind Misty. Misty has now been named. Misty lives with Sykes and Ron.
So, think they have happy little family dinners now ? Like after they behead rats and put them in mailboxes ?
I guess they LE want to have some more combustion over at the Sykes trailer.
I think that is what LE is doing, turning the screws a little tighter, see what happens.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 20, 2009, 02:21:27 PM
Neves and Sykes have been standing behind Misty. Misty has now been named. Misty lives with Sykes and Ron.
So, think they have happy little family dinners now ? Like after they behead rats and put them in mailboxes ?
I guess they LE want to have some more combustion over at the Sykes trailer.

I just hope they wait until AFTER dinner to behead the rats ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 20, 2009, 02:34:33 PM
Neves and Sykes have been standing behind Misty. Misty has now been named. Misty lives with Sykes and Ron.
So, think they have happy little family dinners now ? Like after they behead rats and put them in mailboxes ?
I guess they LE want to have some more combustion over at the Sykes trailer.

I just hope they wait until AFTER dinner to behead the rats ::MonkeyRoll::
I don't know where I read it, but is it true that Ron, Misty and Jr, live in a separate trailer on the property? I can only come to one conclusion, and one conclusion only, why Ron and family are still standing behind Misty, for me it is obvious. If someone can give me another theory to why they are one big family still, I am all ears.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 20, 2009, 02:39:31 PM
Neves and Sykes have been standing behind Misty. Misty has now been named. Misty lives with Sykes and Ron.
So, think they have happy little family dinners now ? Like after they behead rats and put them in mailboxes ?
I guess they LE want to have some more combustion over at the Sykes trailer.

I just hope they wait until AFTER dinner to behead the rats ::MonkeyRoll::
I don't know where I read it, but is it true that Ron, Misty and Jr, live in a separate trailer on the property? I can only come to one conclusion, and one conclusion only, why Ron and family are still standing behind Misty, for me it is obvious. If someone can give me another theory to why they are one big family still, I am all ears.  ::MonkeyEek::
No Rose, they live in the same house with Mrs,Sykes,  What is your  take on why they are standing behind him and Misty, its probably the same as mine...lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 20, 2009, 02:43:55 PM
Neves and Sykes have been standing behind Misty. Misty has now been named. Misty lives with Sykes and Ron.
So, think they have happy little family dinners now ? Like after they behead rats and put them in mailboxes ?
I guess they LE want to have some more combustion over at the Sykes trailer.

I just hope they wait until AFTER dinner to behead the rats ::MonkeyRoll::
I don't know where I read it, but is it true that Ron, Misty and Jr, live in a separate trailer on the property? I can only come to one conclusion, and one conclusion only, why Ron and family are still standing behind Misty, for me it is obvious. If someone can give me another theory to why they are one big family still, I am all ears.  ::MonkeyEek::
No Rose, they live in the same house with Mrs,Sykes,  What is your  take on why they are standing behind him and Misty, its probably the same as mine...lol
Thanks, that's is even worse all of them in one place  ::MonkeyEek:: I think it is the same as yours, I'm telling you it just doesn't make any sense. If they love Haleigh like they say, stand up for her, please.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 20, 2009, 02:48:15 PM
Neves and Sykes have been standing behind Misty. Misty has now been named. Misty lives with Sykes and Ron.
So, think they have happy little family dinners now ? Like after they behead rats and put them in mailboxes ?
I guess they LE want to have some more combustion over at the Sykes trailer.

I just hope they wait until AFTER dinner to behead the rats ::MonkeyRoll::
I don't know where I read it, but is it true that Ron, Misty and Jr, live in a separate trailer on the property? I can only come to one conclusion, and one conclusion only, why Ron and family are still standing behind Misty, for me it is obvious. If someone can give me another theory to why they are one big family still, I am all ears.  ::MonkeyEek::
No Rose, they live in the same house with Mrs,Sykes,  What is your  take on why they are standing behind him and Misty, its probably the same as mine...lol
Thanks, that's is even worse all of them in one place  ::MonkeyEek:: I think it is the same as yours, I'm telling you it just doesn't make any sense. If they love Haleigh like they say, stand up for her, please.
http://haleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/index.php?topic=199.0

Rose, have you seen these pictures from the balloon release, they are reaaly good and they are from right there at the Sykes home, check them out if you havent already


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 20, 2009, 02:52:03 PM
Neves and Sykes have been standing behind Misty. Misty has now been named. Misty lives with Sykes and Ron.
So, think they have happy little family dinners now ? Like after they behead rats and put them in mailboxes ?
I guess they LE want to have some more combustion over at the Sykes trailer.

I just hope they wait until AFTER dinner to behead the rats ::MonkeyRoll::
I don't know where I read it, but is it true that Ron, Misty and Jr, live in a separate trailer on the property? I can only come to one conclusion, and one conclusion only, why Ron and family are still standing behind Misty, for me it is obvious. If someone can give me another theory to why they are one big family still, I am all ears.  ::MonkeyEek::

I can't think of one other that what I've what has lingerered in my mind since the beginning of this case.........now, I would love to hear another explanation....but honestly nothing else makes sense to me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 20, 2009, 03:16:09 PM
Thanks for the link to those pictures HH. Could someone fix the numbers on the house, they are falling off  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 20, 2009, 03:19:27 PM
Thanks for the link to those pictures HH. Could someone fix the numbers on the house, they are falling off  ::MonkeyRoll::
I noticed that too, but I think maybe they are like that on purpose, lol....a sign that someone in Ronalds family lives there.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 20, 2009, 03:21:11 PM
Thanks for the link to those pictures HH. Could someone fix the numbers on the house, they are falling off  ::MonkeyRoll::
I noticed that too, but I think maybe they are like that on purpose, lol....a sign that someone in Ronalds family lives there.
Or they are to darn lazy to fix it. Wonder what they do all day?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 20, 2009, 03:22:19 PM
Thanks for the link to those pictures HH. Could someone fix the numbers on the house, they are falling off  ::MonkeyRoll::
I noticed that too, but I think maybe they are like that on purpose, lol....a sign that someone in Ronalds family lives there.

I can't see the pictures  ::MonkeyWaa:: what's the deal with th ehouse numbers?????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 20, 2009, 03:27:53 PM
219 is the house numbers, the 2 and the 9 are sideways  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 20, 2009, 03:30:38 PM
219 is the house numbers, the 2 and the 9 are sideways  ::MonkeyRoll::
Hmmmm~interesting ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 20, 2009, 03:46:45 PM
Ill post this picture just so Island can see it but I want to make it clear that this is a picture that Ger took and posted in her forum at the above link in my comment to Rose...


Title: *&*%%
Post by: islandmonkey on August 20, 2009, 03:51:57 PM
Ill post this picture just so Island can see it but I want to make it clear that this is a picture that Ger took and posted in her forum at the above link in my comment to Rose...

Thanks HH ::MonkeyBike:: Wow, that looks even more odd than I was imagining........thanks for the pic, it just breaks my heart that butterbean is still left in the care of these two ##&%(*&%%# ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: *&*%%
Post by: higherhopes on August 20, 2009, 03:58:36 PM
Ill post this picture just so Island can see it but I want to make it clear that this is a picture that Ger took and posted in her forum at the above link in my comment to Rose...

Thanks HH ::MonkeyBike:: Wow, that looks even more odd than I was imagining........thanks for the pic, it just breaks my heart that butterbean is still left in the care of these two ##&%(*&%%# ::MonkeyMad::
Yea me to, but I have a feeling that before its all said and done that some changes regarding his custody will probably be coming into play, its a waiting game but the clock in ticking...IMO


Title: Re: *&*%%
Post by: islandmonkey on August 20, 2009, 04:02:30 PM
Ill post this picture just so Island can see it but I want to make it clear that this is a picture that Ger took and posted in her forum at the above link in my comment to Rose...

Thanks HH ::MonkeyBike:: Wow, that looks even more odd than I was imagining........thanks for the pic, it just breaks my heart that butterbean is still left in the care of these two ##&%(*&%%# ::MonkeyMad::
Yea me to, but I have a feeling that before its all said and done that some changes regarding his custody will probably be coming into play, its a waiting game but the clock in ticking...IMO

I agree, it's just hard to sit back and wait while a child's life IMO could be in danger, especially when you consider how badly DVF fails the children they are supposed to be protecting........MAD AS HELL and it has to stop, enough is enough ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 20, 2009, 04:05:10 PM
Just the statements alone released the other day, should make it apparent that the child isn't safe staying where he is. You have a stepmother who can't or won't tell LE what they need to know about a missing child, but it is okay to leave this child in the care of her.  ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: *&*%%
Post by: higherhopes on August 20, 2009, 04:07:06 PM
Ill post this picture just so Island can see it but I want to make it clear that this is a picture that Ger took and posted in her forum at the above link in my comment to Rose...

Thanks HH ::MonkeyBike:: Wow, that looks even more odd than I was imagining........thanks for the pic, it just breaks my heart that butterbean is still left in the care of these two ##&%(*&%%# ::MonkeyMad::
Yea me to, but I have a feeling that before its all said and done that some changes regarding his custody will probably be coming into play, its a waiting game but the clock in ticking...IMO

I agree, it's just hard to sit back and wait while a child's life IMO could be in danger, especially when you consider how badly DVF fails the children they are supposed to be protecting........MAD AS HELL and it has to stop, enough is enough ::MonkeyWaa::
I  know what you mean, but at least I think with Granny Sykes there he is safer than they were with Ronald at the other house, I bet Misty is one her p's and q's around there with her watching things....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 20, 2009, 06:00:15 PM
update..

UCN: 542005DR001321FDXXXX
File Date: 2005-09-16 Disposition Date: 2007-11-08
File Type: PATERNITY - FD12
Judge: A W NICHOLS III   

Plaintiffs
CUMMINGS RONALD LEMYLES  Defendants
SHEFFIELD CRYSTAL DIANE 


Date Docket Description
2005-09-16 001.PETITION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY AND RELATED RELIEF 

2005-09-16 002.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE 

2005-09-16 003.UNIFORM CHILD CUSTODY JURISDICTION/ENFORCEMENT AFFID. 

2005-09-16 004.FINANCIAL AFFIDAVIT - PETITIONER 

2005-09-16 005.NOTICE OF SOCIAL SECURITY - PETITIONER 

2005-09-16 006.REQUEST FOR SUMMONS TO BE ISSUED 

2005-09-16 007. SUMMONS ISSUED:CRYSTAL DIANE SHEFFIELD 9/19/2005 

2005-09-16 .ADDRESS:11024 ARROWBROOK JAX FL 32221 

2005-09-16 .SUMM RT 10-26-05 SVD 10-05-05 DUE 10-25-05 

2005-10-18 008. ANSWER FILED BY PETITIONER 

2005-10-26 009. MOTION TO SET HEARING 

2005-10-26 010. MOTION FOR DEFAULT 

2005-10-27 011. DEFAULT ENTERED 

2005-10-27 012.CLERK'S CERTIFICATE 

2005-11-01 013. EMERGENCY VERIFED MOTION FOR CHILD PICK-UP ORDER 

2005-11-01 015.UNIFORM CHILD CUSTODY JURISDICTION/ENFORCEMENT AFFID. 

2005-11-01 016. ORDER SETTING ASIDE DEFAULT - EEH 

2005-11-01 017.ORDER OF REFERRAL TO GENERAL MAGISTRATE - EEH 

2005-11-01 .PETITION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY AND FOR RELATED RELIEF 

2005-11-01 .FILED BY PETITIONER 

2005-11-01 014.CERTFICATE OF COMPLETITION - CRYSTAL CUMMINGS 

2005-11-22 018. COPY - NOTICE OF HEARING - 12-01-05 @ 9:00 RMP 

2005-11-22 .PETITIONERS MOTION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY 

2005-12-01 019. FAMILY COURT MIN - PET. PRES, RESP. NOT PRES, 

2005-12-01 .C/S TO BE DETERMINED, SHARED PRIMARY RESIDENTAL WITH 

2005-12-01 .FATHER,. STANDARD AT FATHER DISCREATION, JUDICALLY 

2005-12-01 .RECOGNIZED 05-1354 -FD, RONALD CUMMINGS DECLARED LEGAL 

2005-12-01 .FATHER OF BOTH CHILDREN , SHARED PARENTAL RESPONSLIBILTY

2005-12-01 .WITH PRIMARY RESIDENTAL WITH FATHER, STANDARD 

2005-12-01 .VISITATION DISCRESTION OF FATHER IF SAFETY FOR THE 

2005-12-01 .CHILDREN CONCERNS ADVISE, 24 HRS NOTICE TO EXCERSISE 

2005-12-01 .VISITATION , MOTHER NOT TO REMOVE CHILDREN FROM THE 

2005-12-01 .STATE OF FLORIDA WITHOUT FATHERS WRITTN CONSENT OR 

2005-12-01 .FURTHER ORDER OF THE COURT 

2005-12-05 022.REPORT/RECOMMENDATION OF GENERAL MASTER-MP 

2005-12-05 .PET. FOUND TO BE FATHER OF MINOR CHILDREN, SHARED 

2005-12-05 .PARENTAL RESPONSLIBLITY, WITH PETITIONER HAVING 

2005-12-05 .PRIMARY RESIDENTAL CUSTODY, UNSUPERVISED VISITATION 

2005-12-05 .ACCORDING TO STANDARD VISITATION SCHEDULE, MOTHER TO 

2005-12-05 .PAY C/S OF $323/MTH TO BEGININING WHEN ORDER SIGNED 

2005-12-05 .BOTH PARTIES TO MAINTAIN MEDICAID INSURANCE ON BOTH 

2005-12-05 .CHILDREN 

2005-12-05 020. NOTICE OF CURRENT ADDRESS - CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD 

2005-12-05 021.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE - RESPONDENT 

2005-12-06 023. FAXED LETTER FROM RESPONDENT TO MAGISTRATE IN RE: 

2005-12-06 .REHEARING 

2005-12-08 024. RETURN TO SENDER - REPORT AND RECOMMEDATION - RESP. 

2005-12-13 025. NOTICE OF HEARING - 12-27-05 @ 10:30 RMP - PETITIONERS 

2005-12-13 .MOTION TO DETERMINE PATERNITY AND RELATED RELIEF 

2005-12-13 026. ORDER GRANTING MOTION FOR REHEARING - RMP - 

2005-12-27 027.CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION OF PARENTING CLASS 

2005-12-27 RESPONDENT 

2005-12-27 028.FAMILY COURT MINUTES 

2006-01-03 029.REPORT/RECOMMENDATION OF GEN.MAG. ON FJ OF PATERNITY 

2006-01-06 030. MOTION FOR REHEARING AND OBJECTION TO FINDINGS 

2006-01-06 OF MAGISTRATE 

2006-01-20 031.MOTION TO STRIKE OR DIMISS MOTION FOR REHEARING 

2006-01-20 AND OBJECTION TO FINDINGS OF MAGISTRATE-PETITIONER 

2006-01-24 032.NOTICE OF HEARING-HRG SET FOR 02/28/06 @ 1:30 

2006-01-24 EEH-COURTROOM 305 

2006-01-25 033.NOTICE OF HEARING-HRG SET FOR 02/28/06 @ 1:30-EEH 

2006-01-31 034.CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION-HUSBAND 

2006-02-28 035.FAMILY COURT MINUTES 

2006-03-02 036.NOTICE OF HEARING-SET FOR 04/06/06 @ 3:00 

2006-03-09 037.EMERGENCY MOTION FOR RETURN OF CHILDREN - PETITIONER 

2006-03-15 038.NOTICE OF HEARING - HRG SET FOR 03/21/06 @ 10:30 

2006-03-16 039.SUBPOENA FOR HEARING - HRG SET FOR 03/21/06 @ 10:30 

2006-03-16 SUBPOENA FOR: MICHAEL S WORD C/O WALMART DISTRIBUTION 

2006-03-16 CENTER 

2006-03-20 040.NOTICE OF FILING TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR 

2006-03-20 PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WITH MINOR 

2006-03-20 CHILDREN 

2006-03-21 041.FAMILY COURT MINUTES 

2006-03-22 042.ORDER ON EMERGENCY MOTION FOR RETURN OF CHILDREN 

2006-03-22 043.NOTICE OF FILING TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR 

2006-03-22 PROTECTION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WITH MINOR 

2006-03-22 CHILDREN 

2006-04-04 044.NOTICE OF CANCELLATION OF HEARING 

2006-04-12 045.NOTICE OF UN-AVAILABILITY-CHARLES BEHM-ESQUIRE 

2006-08-17 046.NOTICE OF HEARING - STATUS CONFERENCE 

2006-08-17 HRG SET FOR 10/04/06 @ 3:00 - EEH 

2006-10-04 047.FAMILY COURT MINUTES-PET NOT PRESENT-R MURPHY PRESENT 

2006-10-04 RESP NOT PRESENT-C BEHM PRESENT 

2006-12-28 048.NOTICE OF HEARING - HRG SET FOR 01/04/07 @ 3:30 

2007-01-04 049.NOTICE OF FILING TRANSCRIPT - RESPONDENT 

2007-01-26 050.NOTICE OF HEARING REGARDING OBJECTIONS TO FINDINGS 

2007-01-26 OF MAGISTRATE-HRG SET FOR 02/13/07 @ 2:00 - EEH 

2007-02-13 051.FAMILY COURT MINUTES PET PR RESP PR 

2007-02-22 052.NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY OF COUNSEL - BEHM 

2007-05-11 053.CORRESPONDENCE FROM NANCY GRIFFIS TO EEH 

2007-11-08 054.ORDER APPROVING REPORT/RECOMMENDATIONS OF MAGISTRATE 

2007-11-26 FL#200754636011 

2008-06-16 055.DOR INTERCEPT IN THE AMOUNT OF $48.00 ON 06/16/08 

2009-02-10 056.MOTION FOR CONTEMPT 03-27-09 AT 08:30 

2009-02-20 057.NOTICE OF DISMISSAL 

2009-03-17 058.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE - KIM PICAZIO FOR CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD

2009-03-20 059.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE-T JERRY SNIDER FOR FATHER 

2009-03-26 060.NOTICE OF PRODUCTION FROM NON-PARTY 

2009-04-06 061.OBJECTION TO NOTICE OF PRODUCTION FROM NON-PARTY 

2009-06-08 062.MEMO FROM FINANCE TO KIM PICAZIO: UNCOLLECTED FUNDS HOLD

2009-06-18 063.MEMO FROM FINANCE TO KIM PICAZIO: PAYMENT OF UNCOLLECTED

2009-06-18 FUNDS HOLD DUE TO IDENTIFY THEFT 

2009-07-08 064.NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY 

2009-07-14 065.AGREED ORDER ON CHILDRENS ISSUES - AWN 

2009-07-14 FL#200954681414 

2009-07-17 066.MOTION TO WITHDRAW - KIM PICAZIO/RESPONDENT 

2009-07-22 ----:NOTE TO FILE----(DKT#66) ATTORNEY TO SET HEARING 

2009-07-22 08/05/09 @ 11:00 BY PHONE - AWN ---- 

2009-07-27 067.NOTICE OF HEARING/AWN FOR 08/05/09 AT 11:00 

2009-07-29 068.CONSENT ON COUNSELS MOTION TO WITHDRAW-JERRY SNIDER 

2009-08-05 069.FAMILY COURT MINUTES 

2009-08-10 070.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE - CAROL CALDWELL FOR MOTHER 

2009-08-10 071.MOTHERS EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION FOR COUNSELING 

2009-08-10 FOR MINOR CHILD 

2009-08-17 072.NOTICE OF NON REPRESENTATION - T JERRY SNIDER FOR 

2009-08-17 RONALD CUMMINGS 

2009-08-18 073.NOTICE OF SERVICE VIA UNITED STATES MAIL DELIVERY 

2009-08-18 OF EMERGENCY MOTION TO RONALD L CUMMINGS 

2009-08-18 074.NOTICE OF HEARING/AWN FOR 08/27/09 AT 03:00 

2009-08-19 075.AMENDED NOTICE OF NON REPRESENTATION - JERRY SNYDER 

2009-08-19 076.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE-BRANDON BEARDSLEY FOR PETITIONER 

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 20, 2009, 06:06:11 PM
Mowrey, Shoemaker, Beardsley, PL  Attorneys At Law..

http://www.ancientcitylaw.com/Bio/BrandonBeardsely.asp


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 20, 2009, 06:28:32 PM
Neves and Sykes have been standing behind Misty. Misty has now been named. Misty lives with Sykes and Ron.
So, think they have happy little family dinners now ? Like after they behead rats and put them in mailboxes ?
I guess they LE want to have some more combustion over at the Sykes trailer.

I just hope they wait until AFTER dinner to behead the rats ::MonkeyRoll::

Did you think that was squirrel head pie?   ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 20, 2009, 06:28:47 PM
Snodgrass update..post the last motions of the criminal doc. All can be read on Putnam criminal dockets..

2009-06-15 122 NEXT TRIAL 08/24/2009 

2009-06-15 123 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (08/24/2009) 

2009-06-15 124 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (08/24/2009) 

2009-07-30 125 MOTION FOR HEARING TO REVOKE BOND 

2009-07-30 126 MOTION FOR LEAVE TO WITHDRAW 

2009-07-30 127 ORDER GRANTING LEAVE TO WITHDRAW 

2009-07-31 128 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 08/03/2009 AT 04:15 PM 

2009-08-03 129 MOTION HEARING MINUTES - MOTION TO WITHDRAW GRANTED 

2009-08-03 129 MOTION TO REVOKE BOND CONTINUED 

2009-08-03 130 DEFT GIVEN UNTIL 8-24-08 TO OBTAIN PRIVATE COUNSEL 

2009-08-03 130 STATE OBJECTED TO CONTINUANCE 

2009-08-13 131 TRIAL MINUTES: AT CALENDAR CALL CASE CONTINUED TO 

2009-08-13 131 NEXT TRIAL 09/21/09 

2009-08-17 132 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (09-21-2009) 

2009-08-17 133 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (09-21-2009) 

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 20, 2009, 06:34:30 PM
Thanks for the updates Jerseygirl  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 20, 2009, 06:53:38 PM
(snipped)Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, Haleigh's biological parents, have been publicly cleared in the investigation.

Does anyone have a problem with this statement but me? Surely this is a tactic that LE is using to cause division between the family?

I think that it is extremly odd that Ron had Misty call 911 instead of himself,he was tearing up the house looking for Haleigh ...okay....but we have all seen the house and it would take just a few minutes to run through there and look for her and could have been done while he was on the cell phone with 911....It sounded like to me that Misty was distracted from the 911 operator by him during the call. And then he hung up on them and when they called back it rang for awhile before he answered and they asked for Misty it sounded like she said that she didn't want to talk anymore?
Do I think that she is innocent no way no how but i think that he is involved in some way even if it is just after the fact.
You can see in the tv interviews that he is coaching her and she seems to be trying to remember what she is suppose to say.....and did not do very well so that was all we saw of her.
In my oppinion his behavior is just as odd as hers. He just knows how to say "I don't know I was at work" and I guess she was suppose to say " I don't know I was sleeping" but when she was asked additional questions that I guess she felt that she should know the answers to she tried to add to the story and it got way out of control.


This is also the only explanation that I can come up with for Ron's family defending Misty so much......There are a 1,000 things that could have happened ...someone followed her home etc but still it does not fit with either one of their behaviors......even if she can not remember some things about that night the things that she can remember should not change unless she remembers something that adds to her story and fits in correctly....

Does anyone else think that Ron was in on this in some way too????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 20, 2009, 06:59:41 PM
(snipped)Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, Haleigh's biological parents, have been publicly cleared in the investigation.

Does anyone have a problem with this statement but me? Surely this is a tactic that LE is using to cause division between the family?

I think that it is extremly odd that Ron had Misty call 911 instead of himself,he was tearing up the house looking for Haleigh ...okay....but we have all seen the house and it would take just a few minutes to run through there and look for her and could have been done while he was on the cell phone with 911....It sounded like to me that Misty was distracted from the 911 operator by him during the call. And then he hung up on them and when they called back it rang for awhile before he answered and they asked for Misty it sounded like she said that she didn't want to talk anymore?
Do I think that she is innocent no way no how but i think that he is involved in some way even if it is just after the fact.
You can see in the tv interviews that he is coaching her and she seems to be trying to remember what she is suppose to say.....and did not do very well so that was all we saw of her.
In my oppinion his behavior is just as odd as hers. He just knows how to say "I don't know I was at work" and I guess she was suppose to say " I don't know I was sleeping" but when she was asked additional questions that I guess she felt that she should know the answers to she tried to add to the story and it got way out of control.


This is also the only explanation that I can come up with for Ron's family defending Misty so much......There are a 1,000 things that could have happened ...someone followed her home etc but still it does not fit with either one of their behaviors......even if she can not remember some things about that night the things that she can remember should not change unless she remembers something that adds to her story and fits in correctly....

Does anyone else think that Ron was in on this in some way too????
I sure do, and I have since the beginning. Way to many things said and done that makes me feel that way.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 20, 2009, 07:04:03 PM
O/T

HAROLD  RICHARD  DAVIS
Palatka ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 8/20/2009 3:23:57 PM  - Booking#: 09-03434
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 10/16/1980 -  RACE: B  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
794.011-2a   SEX ASSLT BY 18 YOA OLDER SEX BATTERY VICT UNDER 12 YOA   F   C    $0.00    
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http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=755978&IMG=51993


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 20, 2009, 07:08:44 PM
I sure hope LE has a good stradegy.....from this side I just shake my head ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 20, 2009, 07:13:15 PM
I am still appalled that Misty only has a 7th grade education.....you would think that someone would have seen to it that Misty at least made it to highschool....I thought that was the law?.....it is really sad....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 20, 2009, 07:17:31 PM
I am still appalled that Misty only has a 7th grade education.....you would think that someone would have seen to it that Misty at least made it to highschool....I thought that was the law?.....it is really sad....
Very sad, and she probably thinks she has quite the catch with Ron.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 20, 2009, 07:20:34 PM
I wonder if Haleigh was abducted by one of Ron's business friends seeking revenge of some sort.  By business, I mean the druggies, drug dealers, etc.  Ron, after all, has a bad temper.  He could have gone off about a deal, possibly injuring someone.  Since they are in the backwoods, the score is settled by the players themselves.  Perhaps Haleigh was taken as part of settling a score.   I hate to even put this thought on paper.   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 20, 2009, 07:28:28 PM
Another O/T

Man Confesses To Sex With 12-Year-Old Girl

http://www.wftv.com/news/20478349/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 20, 2009, 07:31:06 PM
I am still appalled that Misty only has a 7th grade education.....you would think that someone would have seen to it that Misty at least made it to highschool....I thought that was the law?.....it is really sad....
Very sad, and she probably thinks she has quite the catch with Ron.

This is an example of backwoods hillbilly culture (that I grew up in).  What is so very sad is that Misty is not motivated by important things like getting a public education.  That can be done with a motivated kid, even if the parents or family is not motivated, or are drugged out of their minds most the time.  Generally the teachers help out a lot in such situations to the extent they can, according to the kid's circumstances.

I highly doubt if truancy from school is followed up on in the backwoods.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 20, 2009, 07:43:59 PM
I am still appalled that Misty only has a 7th grade education.....you would think that someone would have seen to it that Misty at least made it to highschool....I thought that was the law?.....it is really sad....
Very sad, and she probably thinks she has quite the catch with Ron.
I thought the same thing after all his mother works for pd....grandma owns her own bussiness....Ron had his own house,car,and a job......his is suppose to be the bad@#$ of the town....I bet in her eyes she has the best in Putnam county.....the question is how far is she willing to go to keep him???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 20, 2009, 07:45:45 PM
I wonder if Haleigh was abducted by one of Ron's business friends seeking revenge of some sort.  By business, I mean the druggies, drug dealers, etc.  Ron, after all, has a bad temper.  He could have gone off about a deal, possibly injuring someone.  Since they are in the backwoods, the score is settled by the players themselves.  Perhaps Haleigh was taken as part of settling a score.   I hate to even put this thought on paper.   
That thought has crossed my mind but I still lean towards it being an inside job....JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 20, 2009, 07:47:42 PM
I am still appalled that Misty only has a 7th grade education.....you would think that someone would have seen to it that Misty at least made it to highschool....I thought that was the law?.....it is really sad....
Very sad, and she probably thinks she has quite the catch with Ron.

This is an example of backwoods hillbilly culture (that I grew up in).  What is so very sad is that Misty is not motivated by important things like getting a public education.  That can be done with a motivated kid, even if the parents or family is not motivated, or are drugged out of their minds most the time.  Generally the teachers help out a lot in such situations to the extent they can, according to the kid's circumstances.

I highly doubt if truancy from school is followed up on in the backwoods.
I was shocked to find out that in 1983 they still used outhouses in Alabama....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 20, 2009, 08:05:48 PM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing98.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 20, 2009, 09:11:49 PM
thank you for the lovely picture of Haleigh Brandi...
and yes...keep hope alive for Haleigh's sake....:) :)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 20, 2009, 09:18:31 PM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing98.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh

Lovely Brandi!


mouse says:

Until you have walked in Ronald Cummings shoes, do not judge him"...Tim Miller, TES, Welaka First Baptist Church.... 8/16/09

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,140.msg65311.html#msg65311

Sunday TM had friends of TES bring horses for he and Ron to ride and talk.  He thought this would be good for Ronald.

What a nice thing to do.  These friends were l l/2 hours away but did this because they too felt Ronald needed an outlet.  These wonderful people have invited Ronald to come to their ranch and ride anytime he wants.

Thank God for compassionate people.

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,140.msg65310.html#msg65310


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 20, 2009, 09:34:56 PM
Police: Haleigh Likely Not Abducted by Stranger

http://eyesforlies.blogspot.com/2009/08/police-haleigh-likely-not-abducted-by.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 20, 2009, 10:17:50 PM
(snipped)Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, Haleigh's biological parents, have been publicly cleared in the investigation.

Does anyone have a problem with this statement but me? Surely this is a tactic that LE is using to cause division between the family?

I think that it is extremly odd that Ron had Misty call 911 instead of himself,he was tearing up the house looking for Haleigh ...okay....but we have all seen the house and it would take just a few minutes to run through there and look for her and could have been done while he was on the cell phone with 911....It sounded like to me that Misty was distracted from the 911 operator by him during the call. And then he hung up on them and when they called back it rang for awhile before he answered and they asked for Misty it sounded like she said that she didn't want to talk anymore?
Do I think that she is innocent no way no how but i think that he is involved in some way even if it is just after the fact.
You can see in the tv interviews that he is coaching her and she seems to be trying to remember what she is suppose to say.....and did not do very well so that was all we saw of her.
In my oppinion his behavior is just as odd as hers. He just knows how to say "I don't know I was at work" and I guess she was suppose to say " I don't know I was sleeping" but when she was asked additional questions that I guess she felt that she should know the answers to she tried to add to the story and it got way out of control.


This is also the only explanation that I can come up with for Ron's family defending Misty so much......There are a 1,000 things that could have happened ...someone followed her home etc but still it does not fit with either one of their behaviors......even if she can not remember some things about that night the things that she can remember should not change unless she remembers something that adds to her story and fits in correctly....

Does anyone else think that Ron was in on this in some way too????
yep


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 21, 2009, 07:41:57 AM
Good Morning All!

PDM Bridge - What ifs

http://justiceforhaleigh.wordpress.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 21, 2009, 08:33:21 AM
Heart...thanks for this link...

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,140.msg65311.html#msg65311

did anyone else look through this to see all of the interesting pictures that Spunky put on the forum? really gave you a feel of the town...and where Haleigh lived when she went missing...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 21, 2009, 09:09:16 AM
Heart...thanks for this link...

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,140.msg65311.html#msg65311

did anyone else look through this to see all of the interesting pictures that Spunky put on the forum? really gave you a feel of the town...and where Haleigh lived when she went missing...

Yes, and noted that currently no HaLeigh posters on the windows of the infamous Memaw's and that currently Mr. and Mrs. Ronald Cummings do not live in a trailer on Grandma Sykes property, as rumor would have it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 21, 2009, 09:20:18 AM
hangnon says:

To those that had comments to make about my posts not only here but felt the need to take it to other boards, in their desperate need to be right, I have decided to clear up the issue of who made contact in an attempt to get HaLeigh back into the forefront of media in a positive way.

If you have followed TJ at all you know that there has been some talk about dissatisfaction among the family at how this case has been proceeding. After meeting with LE on a couple of different occasions the family, has a whole, decided that if anything was going to be done to help find HaLeigh and get her name back out to the public, it was going to have to be up to them.

more...

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,140.msg65401.html#msg65401


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 21, 2009, 09:48:51 AM
From a friend who would prefer to remain anonymous.

 

I spent most of the day at Riverfront Park on Saturday, August 15.  I arrived early enough to assist the family with setting up tents, decorating, and getting organized.  Crystal, Marie, and several other family members & friends, old and young were there to support the family and the event.

 

The turnout was fair.  Many generous internet friends from out of town sent school supplies to Marie’s home so we started out with several boxes before the event was opened.  Several generous donors stopped at the park throughout the day to bring their donations of school supplies.  One special visitor drove all the way from Tampa to deliver a gigantic rubbermaid container loaded with at least 40 lbs of school supplies. 

 

The most important goal……….getting Haleighs name and face in the media was accomplished.  Several media outlets visited throughout the day to take pictures, video, and conduct interviews with the family.

 

The first two media vans arrived around 12:00 noon.  Within 60 seconds of their arrival, Ron, Misty, Annette, and Teresa pulled into the park with Butterbean/Ron Jr. in tow.  They brought backpacks loaded with school supplies, which they dropped on the table.  Butterbean jumped out of the car and immediately ran to his mother.  He did not leave her side until he got back into the car with his father to leave.
 

After the Cummings dropped their school supplies, they proceeded to post signs advertising their own event, a balloon release around the perimeter of the park.   They spoke with the media as well.  After about 30-40 minutes it looked like it was going to rain.  The two media vans left and the Cummings left right after them.

 

Throughout the time the Cummings were at the park, an unmarked Palatka PD vehicle remained in the parking lot.  When they left, so did the police vehicle.

 

The school arrived around 4:30 to collect the donated supplies.  They were thankful and appreciative of the efforts of the family to help Haleigh’s classmates have what they need for school.

 

As to the general mood of the family, I have to admire Crystal, Marie and the rest of their family for their strength and positivity.  The event was similar to a family picnic, complete with friends stopping by to visit, fried chicken, children playing, cupcakes, some smiles, some tears and a great deal of love.  That this family can find something to smile and even laugh about is a testament to their resilience.  In spite of the obvious pain and the numerous questions, they remain positive that this case will be resolved in God’s time and they are confident that justice will be served.

 

Saturday is a day I will never forget.  Crystal, Marie, and their family & friends are people I will never forget.   

 

I must add that contrary to rumors being perpetrated on the internet, the family did not sell anything at the Haleigh’s Closet event.  T shirts with Haleigh’s face were worn by everyone who spent the day at the event,  however they were not offered for sale.  Nor were cash donations solicited at all throughout the day.


http://justiceforhaleigh.wordpress.com/2009/08/19/my-experience-at-haleighs-closet/



Curious (if true), but IIRC I believe the police were also at the PDM shift changes when Ron was fired, maybe this was just preemptive to stop any trouble before it started.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 21, 2009, 10:20:42 AM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing98.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh

Lovely Brandi!


mouse says:

Until you have walked in Ronald Cummings shoes, do not judge him"...Tim Miller, TES, Welaka First Baptist Church.... 8/16/09  http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,140.msg65311.html#msg65311

Sunday TM had friends of TES bring horses for he and Ron to ride and talk.  He thought this would be good for Ronald.

What a nice thing to do.  These friends were l l/2 hours away but did this because they too felt Ronald needed an outlet.  These wonderful people have invited Ronald to come to their ranch and ride anytime he wants.

Thank God for compassionate people.

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,140.msg65310.html#msg65310


I think Tim Miller is a true hero and very compassionate, not quick to judge anyone.......that being said IIRC he said the same thing about the Anthony's on NG too in the first months.

IMO Ron is his own worst enemy and brings the majority (if not all) of the criticism on himself.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 21, 2009, 12:18:24 PM
I agree, he sure did say the same early on in the Anthony case. He is a person that tries to see the best in people, which is an excellent trait, one that I wish that I had.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 21, 2009, 03:42:21 PM
Heart...thanks for this link...

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,140.msg65311.html#msg65311

did anyone else look through this to see all of the interesting pictures that Spunky put on the forum? really gave you a feel of the town...and where Haleigh lived when she went missing...

Yes, thanks for the link to the photographs. Was an interesting group of pictures.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 21, 2009, 07:48:52 PM
DON'T MISS - TONIGHT ON DANA PRETZER!
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/Pretzer082109.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 21, 2009, 08:32:07 PM
(http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae156/cutter32189/PDMBOCHHouseRitaLaneBridge065.jpg)

http://haleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/index.php?topic=217.0


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 21, 2009, 08:53:07 PM
(http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae156/cutter32189/PDMBOCHHouseRitaLaneBridge065.jpg)

http://haleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/index.php?topic=217.0
Is that Teresa's mailbox?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 21, 2009, 09:30:20 PM
Yes, that is TN's.
Ger posted more pics.

http://haleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/index.php?topic=217.0


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 21, 2009, 09:33:15 PM
(http://uphoto.wholikesu.net/nphoto/LargePhoto/73/7311/7311422.JPEG)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 21, 2009, 09:40:39 PM
(http://uphoto.wholikesu.net/nphoto/LargePhoto/73/7311/7311422.JPEG)

darling picture..thanks Heart..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 21, 2009, 10:52:58 PM
Wasn't Ger a poster here on this forum at one time?

I seem to remember that name. She lived in the area, as I recall.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 21, 2009, 11:19:18 PM
Wasn't Ger a poster here on this forum at one time?

I seem to remember that name. She lived in the area, as I recall.

I don't know about here Brandi, but Ger was a member over at AH's until a week or so ago.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 21, 2009, 11:40:08 PM
Wasn't Ger a poster here on this forum at one time?

I seem to remember that name. She lived in the area, as I recall.

Nope, no Ger has ever posted here.  There is a Ger who registered but was never approved.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 22, 2009, 12:17:06 AM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing101b.gif)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on August 22, 2009, 12:55:37 AM
Brandi, ::MonkeyAngel::

That is a gorgeous picture....this has to be my favorite. : ::MonkeyCheer2::

Bless you


mm


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 22, 2009, 04:52:30 AM
Brandi, ::MonkeyAngel::

That is a gorgeous picture....this has to be my favorite. : ::MonkeyCheer2::

Bless you


mm

Nice to see you, mymonkey!

You made me look at the picture longer than I normally would, and I noticed I forgot to animate the waterfalls!

So, now, they are animated:


(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing101c.gif)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 22, 2009, 05:11:05 AM
Brandi,that is beautiful work.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Rose Red on August 22, 2009, 06:37:06 AM
Uhhhh,.. Basically just EXTREMELY frustrated ..

Putnam County Sheriffs Office has passed on Crystal & Ron .. OK, FINALLY .. So, that leaves ole' Misty "holding the bag" ??

AGAIN,... Either they have evidence that Misty was not home & or involved in Haleighs disappearence or they don't ..

I don't recall where it was I read that they -PCSO may have allowed her - Misty to believe that she "passed" the polygraph test that was administered BUT they never out & said that she did .. OK..

I recall an interview where Ron stated that HE - Ron ASKED THEM - PCSO, or some law enforcement entity IF MISTY PASSED & THE ANSWER WAS YES ..

What was Misty wearing when Ron arrived home from work ? ..

Have those clothes been taken as evidence ? ..

I asked Art of ArtHarris.com atleast 3-4 times if he recalled hearing or reading that TES made a remark regarding what neighbors had said to them regarding it being common knowledge that Misty had been having an affair with Ronalds uncle ..

Art never replied to my question , period .. & I asked those questions well before my little fall from grace on his site.. I can't be the only person who recalls either reading or hearing those remarks regarding the alleged rumored common knowledge affair comment .. I'M NOT THAT DELUSIONAL AS TO JUST PULL IT OUT OF THIN AIR ..

I am sorry to say that if ANYONE believes that any underbrush in this area is going to be dead in the next 6 weeks ,.. They are going to be sorely disappointed ..

Is it just me who wonders WHY anyone would deem a search of the PDM Bridge property necessary if it is believed that Ron Cummings has been cleared of suspicion by the PCSO ? .. That is what they said correct ? .. Ron & Crystal not under suspicion ..

Why wait 6 months to clear Haleighs parents of suspicion on the date of their childs birth ,to then decide & agree that it would be a good idea to further search the area around the fathers workplace ?

I have a hundred other whys but ,.. I'll save them for another post .

One more thing before I go,.. Ron was so concerned with the thought that someone else would have access to his home that he replaced all the locks in the home himself .. OK,..

So what was Misty to do when she walked over to her brothers house when Ron wasn't there ? .. Or, drive to pick the Haleigh up from the bus stop ?.. Leave the house unlocked ? .. That sounds like a lousy alternative to making sure that a limited amount of access was available , does it not ? ..

What landlord would allow the locks on their property to be changed & them not have access to it ?

Did the landlord have a set of keys ? .. If so, who had access to their set ? ..

& My mind rolls on & on & on .. Uhhhh,.. Disgusted with the lack of progress !

Where is Haleigh ? .. ( hugs & kisses little girl )

Forgive me, 1 more thing .. I lived in a mobile home before .. We had 2 locks on all 3 of the doors .. The standard handle lock & a dead bolt right above it .. If I didn't have the handle lock locked but had the deadbolt locked on the back door / front door because of how it sat on the property, it would open enough to see the barrell of the deadbolt .. All I did was use our screwdriver to push the barrell back..

Hey, when you're starting out it isn't easy to replace the locks on 3 doors when you lose your keys .. Where there is a will, there is away ... But, I think we might have been missing the metal thingy that attached to the door frame that the deadbolt slid into .. So that may have been the reason it had some give to it.. Too long ago to remember exactly..






Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 22, 2009, 09:53:30 AM
Brandi, beautiful pic  ::MonkeyAngel::  Rose Red all great questions. I remember hearing about Misty having an affair with Ron's uncle, and then it seemed it was dropped like a hot potato. I find the info that a poster talked about at WS about Ron's ex employment, many interesting statements were brought up. I did read the info was going to be passed on to Tim Miller, and I'm sure it was. The area in which Ron worked, correct me if I'm wrong. I just can't figure out why one rushes into marriage with a person that you know is having sex with another, but perhaps Ron was also, so no big deal.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 22, 2009, 09:53:37 AM
Rose Red - Ron isn't cleared in my mind.  Also, I have seen many times where LE has said a parent was not a suspect when all along they really were.  As far as TES saying something about Misty not being home that night, I don't think so.  I believe maybe Cobra may have said something like that.


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Post by: Ariana on August 22, 2009, 10:25:45 AM
Posted by: klaasend 
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Rose Red - Ron isn't cleared in my mind.  Also, I have seen many times where LE has said a parent was not a suspect when all along they really were.  As far as TES saying something about Misty not being home that night, I don't think so.  I believe maybe Cobra may have said something like that.

I have to agree on that.  I think the general feeling there is in that area is that the person is more likely to slip up if they think they are not a suspect than they would knowing that they are.  I think this is the case in Oakland for that little boy there.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 22, 2009, 10:29:10 AM
Posted by: klaasend 
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Rose Red - Ron isn't cleared in my mind.  Also, I have seen many times where LE has said a parent was not a suspect when all along they really were.  As far as TES saying something about Misty not being home that night, I don't think so.  I believe maybe Cobra may have said something like that.

I have to agree on that.  I think the general feeling there is in that area is that the person is more likely to slip up if they think they are not a suspect than they would knowing that they are.  I think this is the case in Oakland for that little boy there.
Sure makes sense.


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Post by: higherhopes on August 22, 2009, 03:15:01 PM
Rose Red - Ron isn't cleared in my mind.  Also, I have seen many times where LE has said a parent was not a suspect when all along they really were.  As far as TES saying something about Misty not being home that night, I don't think so.  I believe maybe Cobra may have said something like that.
I agree, LE have a few tricks, so to speak, up their sleeves, and I also have seen them say someone wasnt a suspect when in fact they were, Im sure they know exactly what they are doing, maybe if Ronald thinks he is no longer a suspect and if Misty is then maybe they will get into a altercation of some sort, like say Misty would say, Im not gonna go down for this by myself when you know as well as I do about what happened, or any number of things like that could happen........my opinion only..........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Rose Red on August 22, 2009, 04:33:40 PM
Rose Red - Ron isn't cleared in my mind.  Also, I have seen many times where LE has said a parent was not a suspect when all along they really were.  As far as TES saying something about Misty not being home that night, I don't think so.  I believe maybe Cobra may have said something like that.

No, the person who made that remark was Tim Miller of TES .. NOT Cobra

Whether the claim holds water or not ,.. I don't know ..

If there are people in the neighborhood making accusations & claims of it being common knowledge I'd be interested in talking with them if I were PCSO to see what their motivation for making such a claim to a searcher looking for a missing child would be ..

Also, .. The fact that Tim Miller was letting the public know what neighbors were saying might be the reason he pulled out of Satsuma so soon .. PCSO & himself might have had a falling out over it ,.. Just guessing ofcourse .

Another interesting point is that the family contacted this Attorney NeJame or whatever it is to help get Haleighs name back out into the media & he gets TES back on board to help search for Haleigh .. But, where are they - TES going to search ? .. The area around PDM Bridge .. WOW,.. I don't get it ..

For those who believe Ron is a guilty party in the disappearence of his daughter, there will likely never be a day when that opinion can be swayed ..

If Ron is involved like MANY excluding myself believe , then he & his family called the police in on themselves by contacting a man who contacted TES for a more thorough search of the Rons ex place of employment .. ODD .

 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Rose Red on August 22, 2009, 05:03:38 PM
Brandi, beautiful pic  ::MonkeyAngel::  Rose Red all great questions. I remember hearing about Misty having an affair with Ron's uncle, and then it seemed it was dropped like a hot potato. I find the info that a poster talked about at WS about Ron's ex employment, many interesting statements were brought up. I did read the info was going to be passed on to Tim Miller, and I'm sure it was. The area in which Ron worked, correct me if I'm wrong. I just can't figure out why one rushes into marriage with a person that you know is having sex with another, but perhaps Ron was also, so no big deal.

The Marriage - He says he loves her , .. He may have been scared that he was going to be arrested on some statuatory rape charge , ..

He may have been concerned that any possible custody issue w/ Crystal would not be in his favor if she - Crystal used the fact that their daughter went missing while in the care of his underage girlfriend .. Maybe he thought that marrying her there by making her his wife would lessen the blow ..

Then there is the claim of keeping "your enemies closer" excuse that he states reportedly himself & I don't buy that at all .. I don't believe anyone could stomach having sex with the person who they believed had information regarding their missing child .. Much less allow them to have access to the missing childs sibling ..

My opinion is that he is simply embarrassed FOR loving her .. But who knows ..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 22, 2009, 05:41:09 PM
Rose Red - Ron isn't cleared in my mind.  Also, I have seen many times where LE has said a parent was not a suspect when all along they really were.  As far as TES saying something about Misty not being home that night, I don't think so.  I believe maybe Cobra may have said something like that.

No, the person who made that remark was Tim Miller of TES .. NOT Cobra

Whether the claim holds water or not ,.. I don't know ..

If there are people in the neighborhood making accusations & claims of it being common knowledge I'd be interested in talking with them if I were PCSO to see what their motivation for making such a claim to a searcher looking for a missing child would be ..

Also, .. The fact that Tim Miller was letting the public know what neighbors were saying might be the reason he pulled out of Satsuma so soon .. PCSO & himself might have had a falling out over it ,.. Just guessing ofcourse .

Another interesting point is that the family contacted this Attorney NeJame or whatever it is to help get Haleighs name back out into the media & he gets TES back on board to help search for Haleigh .. But, where are they - TES going to search ? .. The area around PDM Bridge .. WOW,.. I don't get it ..

For those who believe Ron is a guilty party in the disappearence of his daughter, there will likely never be a day when that opinion can be swayed ..

If Ron is involved like MANY excluding myself believe , then he & his family called the police in on themselves by contacting a man who contacted TES for a more thorough search of the Rons ex place of employment .. ODD .

 

Please provide a link where Tim Miller said that because I don't remember him saying anything like that.  Far more likely to have been said by Cobra.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 22, 2009, 06:31:18 PM
Maybe Ron does love Misty, but it sure don't look like that to me. Those wedding pictures, that had to have been the most miserable groom I have ever seen. Hard to imagine marrying someone who you know was out and about with another guy, and the whole family embracing Misty like she is the greatest. Just has to be more going on here, I really doubt if he would have been charged for being with a teenage babysitter, that community has a lot of other issues that LE keeps busy with, but who knows?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Rose Red on August 22, 2009, 06:38:39 PM
Klaasend - you have 53,000 posts which says to me you have been doing this for awhile..

I never said that Tim Miller said Misty wasn't home that night .. WHAT I said was I remember either reading or watching a report at which time Tim Miller proclaimed that neighbors made claims that it was common knowledge that Misty Croslin was having an affair with Ron Cummings uncle ..

I am aware that Cobra is the one said Misty wasn't home ..

What I recall Tim Miller saying was within those first days of Haleighs disappearence ..

BEFORE he even left here I believe ..

I am not a wiz on the computer ,.. What I have tried to do is type in the search part of my screen the words - TES Tim Miller says that neighbors say it is common knowledge that Misty was having an affair with Rons uncle ..

When I press search , the closest I come to finding a quote is this :


Find Haleigh « HumbleOpinion's Weblog
Anthony says this is not about him, it's just about finding Haleigh. ...... tes with tim miller is there and work close with the fbi there,and must be ...... the neighborhood was aware that Misty was having an affair with Ron's Uncle. ...... I still say Misty is lying. She said she got up to go to the bathroom and ...

humbleopinion.wordpress.com/find-haleigh-page-2/... - 578k - Similar pages

I know what I heard .. Someone who was better at searching for things than I am on the computer could probably do a better job at finding it ..

What I find interesting about the whole issue is that nothing ever came of it ... It was said & it never went anywhere .. Not even a denial that I am aware of ..

This is the best that I can offer , .. BUT IT WAS SAID ..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 22, 2009, 06:58:08 PM
Klaasend - you have 53,000 posts which says to me you have been doing this for awhile..

I never said that Tim Miller said Misty wasn't home that night .. WHAT I said was I remember either reading or watching a report at which time Tim Miller proclaimed that neighbors made claims that it was common knowledge that Misty Croslin was having an affair with Ron Cummings uncle ..

I am aware that Cobra is the one said Misty wasn't home ..

What I recall Tim Miller saying was within those first days of Haleighs disappearence ..

BEFORE he even left here I believe ..

I am not a wiz on the computer ,.. What I have tried to do is type in the search part of my screen the words - TES Tim Miller says that neighbors say it is common knowledge that Misty was having an affair with Rons uncle ..

When I press search , the closest I come to finding a quote is this :


Find Haleigh « HumbleOpinion's Weblog
Anthony says this is not about him, it's just about finding Haleigh. ...... tes with tim miller is there and work close with the fbi there,and must be ...... the neighborhood was aware that Misty was having an affair with Ron's Uncle. ...... I still say Misty is lying. She said she got up to go to the bathroom and ...

humbleopinion.wordpress.com/find-haleigh-page-2/... - 578k - Similar pages

I know what I heard .. Someone who was better at searching for things than I am on the computer could probably do a better job at finding it ..

What I find interesting about the whole issue is that nothing ever came of it ... It was said & it never went anywhere .. Not even a denial that I am aware of ..

This is the best that I can offer , .. BUT IT WAS SAID ..


You can copy snippets of posts that have nothing to do with anything Tim Miller actually said yet you are incapable of providing the actual URL?  Odd.

Until I see it as an actual quote coming from Tim Miller I do not believe it was said by him.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: San on August 22, 2009, 06:58:26 PM
Klaasend - you have 53,000 posts which says to me you have been doing this for awhile..

I never said that Tim Miller said Misty wasn't home that night .. WHAT I said was I remember either reading or watching a report at which time Tim Miller proclaimed that neighbors made claims that it was common knowledge that Misty Croslin was having an affair with Ron Cummings uncle ..

I am aware that Cobra is the one said Misty wasn't home ..

What I recall Tim Miller saying was within those first days of Haleighs disappearence ..

BEFORE he even left here I believe ..

I am not a wiz on the computer ,.. What I have tried to do is type in the search part of my screen the words - TES Tim Miller says that neighbors say it is common knowledge that Misty was having an affair with Rons uncle ..

When I press search , the closest I come to finding a quote is this :


Find Haleigh « HumbleOpinion's Weblog
Anthony says this is not about him, it's just about finding Haleigh. ...... tes with tim miller is there and work close with the fbi there,and must be ...... the neighborhood was aware that Misty was having an affair with Ron's Uncle. ...... I still say Misty is lying. She said she got up to go to the bathroom and ...

humbleopinion.wordpress.com/find-haleigh-page-2/... - 578k - Similar pages

I know what I heard .. Someone who was better at searching for things than I am on the computer could probably do a better job at finding it ..

What I find interesting about the whole issue is that nothing ever came of it ... It was said & it never went anywhere .. Not even a denial that I am aware of ..

This is the best that I can offer , .. BUT IT WAS SAID ..


Red Rose I don't like your tone toward Klaas.

Those 53,000 posts are there for a reason.  She is respected in this forum and I suggest you show the same.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 22, 2009, 07:23:18 PM
Rose Red can take her attitude elsewhere.  I suspect she has been banned already from SM in a previous life  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 22, 2009, 08:32:39 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing97.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 23, 2009, 01:27:45 AM
As far as Ron's family getting in touch with Nejames and him getting Tim to come back to search, doesnt tell me that Ron is innocent, it just tells me that the person that actually contacted Nejames (Teresa Neves) wants HaLeigh found and probably doesnt have a clue herself what was actually up with Misty and Ronald on that particular night in Question..  I dont think Ron would tell his mother if he had more to do with HaLeigh being gone, and so what was he suppose to do when she ended up contacting Nejames, tell her not to, tell her he didnt want any searching done for HaLeigh, I dont think he would do that..
   Also there's another route to all this that needs to be looked into, after Ronalds little falling out with the in-laws and his latest ride down to the police station, I would think that someone probably realized that this latest stunt of Ronalds might actually get him a little jail time or a big fine and probation because of his other long list of crimes and they thought that just maybe since he is the father of a missing child and under a lot of stress, then the Judge might go easier on him and to make him really look like that is what is going on then they had to get HaLeighs case back in the publics view and Ronald himself in his role of Father for this missing child.. JMO
   Also talking about doing something for awhile, I think someone needs to go to TES's site and see that Tim Miller has a long record of dealing with missing children and I doubt he would say or do anything that would give LE cause to have any type of problem with him, or what he might say...I think he has plenty of exspierience with what to say and not to say, so therefore I doubt he said anything other then what he was told he could say by LE...   Tim Miller only wants to find whichever child may be missing, he's not interested in drama and trying to say what happened in a investigation when it isn't soemthing that LE has already stated as a fact...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 23, 2009, 09:37:14 AM
Very good post HH  ::MonkeyCool:: I agree.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on August 23, 2009, 09:48:15 AM
Without a link to back it up I find this claim of TM saying that very hard to believe.  I would think it was AH or Cobra or some other person.  I DO NOT remember TM ever saying such a thing!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 23, 2009, 09:56:19 AM
Without a link to back it up I find this claim of TM saying that very hard to believe.  I would think it was AH or Cobra or some other person.  I DO NOT remember TM ever saying such a thing!
I remember the rumor, but no idea who said it  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 23, 2009, 10:02:35 AM
Without a link to back it up I find this claim of TM saying that very hard to believe.  I would think it was AH or Cobra or some other person.  I DO NOT remember TM ever saying such a thing!

Exactly my point.  It doesn't sound like something Tim Miller would say unless he was INSTRUCTED to say it by LE.  Tim Miller works with LE not against it. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on August 23, 2009, 10:06:13 AM
Searching using the words "Ronald Cummings uncle affair"  brings many possibilities.  One possibility is here  but it does NOT say TM said this...  http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/02/18/amber-alert-haleigh-anne-marie-cummings-5-missing-from-putnam-county-florida-police-have-new-leads/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 23, 2009, 10:10:06 AM
Searching using the words "Ronald Cummings uncle affair"  brings many possibilities.  One possibility is here  but it does NOT say TM said this...  http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/02/18/amber-alert-haleigh-anne-marie-cummings-5-missing-from-putnam-county-florida-police-have-new-leads/
Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 23, 2009, 10:11:20 AM
Searching using the words "Ronald Cummings uncle affair"  brings many possibilities.  One possibility is here  but it does NOT say TM said this...  http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/02/18/amber-alert-haleigh-anne-marie-cummings-5-missing-from-putnam-county-florida-police-have-new-leads/

So "some people searching with TES aka volunteers" have said "some locals""

We searched beside some locals who asked us why we would bother to help this family.  Everyone in the neighborhood was aware that Misty was having an affair with Ron’s Uncle. So   was he. She had been gone 3 days previously on a bender and the uncle came back to stake his      claim when Ronnie went back to work for the first time in 3 days. Misty propped that door open,     and doing so, invited the vampire into the house.”



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 23, 2009, 10:13:05 AM
Searching using the words "Ronald Cummings uncle affair"  brings many possibilities.  One possibility is here  but it does NOT say TM said this...  http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/02/18/amber-alert-haleigh-anne-marie-cummings-5-missing-from-putnam-county-florida-police-have-new-leads/

So "some people searching with TES aka volunteers" have said "some locals""

We searched beside some locals who asked us why we would bother to help this family.  Everyone in the neighborhood was aware that Misty was having an affair with Ron’s Uncle. So   was he. She had been gone 3 days previously on a bender and the uncle came back to stake his      claim when Ronnie went back to work for the first time in 3 days. Misty propped that door open,     and doing so, invited the vampire into the house.”


Thanks, interesting, I don't remember reading those statements  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on August 23, 2009, 10:18:34 AM
Since the comments are attributed to a TES "member" maybe this is where the confusion began for Rose Red?  Is this a possibility Rose Red?  Forgive me but I truly don't like to see words put in Tim Millers mouth if they are not his words. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 23, 2009, 10:49:22 AM
Since the comments are attributed to a TES "member" maybe this is where the confusion began for Rose Red?  Is this a possibility Rose Red?  Forgive me but I truly don't like to see words put in Tim Millers mouth if they are not his words. 

Rose Red won't be answering you she can no longer post. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on August 23, 2009, 10:50:05 AM
Are they really going to search around PDM bridge ?
.....



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 23, 2009, 10:57:22 AM
Are they really going to search around PDM bridge ?
.....



I'm not sure Kat_Gram


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on August 23, 2009, 10:57:26 AM
Ohh, OK Klaasend, Sorry, I did not know.
I was just trying to kill the weed before it spread.
I think we found how it started so I will leave well enough alone now.
Happy Sunday all!

OT:  Sunday is not a day of rest here.  We are doing drywall and laminate flooring in a bedroom today, ugh...lol.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 23, 2009, 11:10:00 AM
Ohh, OK Klaasend, Sorry, I did not know.
I was just trying to kill the weed before it spread.
I think we found how it started so I will leave well enough alone now.
Happy Sunday all!

OT:  Sunday is not a day of rest here.  We are doing drywall and laminate flooring in a bedroom today, ugh...lol.

OT:  Nor is it a day of rest here.  We are having a sit down birthday turkey dinner for 19 people and I don't have the room for it, LOL  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: dsntslp on August 23, 2009, 11:18:19 AM
Wow, Good luck with that!
I am sending the guys to the store to get ribs to slow cook on the grill while we work today, potatos, corn on the cob etc...yummy. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 23, 2009, 11:19:41 AM
Ohh, OK Klaasend, Sorry, I did not know.
I was just trying to kill the weed before it spread.
I think we found how it started so I will leave well enough alone now.
Happy Sunday all!

OT:  Sunday is not a day of rest here.  We are doing drywall and laminate flooring in a bedroom today, ugh...lol.

OT:  Nor is it a day of rest here.  We are having a sit down birthday turkey dinner for 19 people and I don't have the room for it, LOL  ::MonkeyShocked::
Oh my, good luck to the both of you  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: TxLady2 on August 23, 2009, 12:04:01 PM
Are they really going to search around PDM bridge ?
.....



IIRC, this idea to search around PDM came from a poster from the AH board a couple weeks ago, not from Tim Miller himself. The poster's research and info on PDM can be found on the J4H blog.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 23, 2009, 12:12:07 PM
Are they really going to search around PDM bridge ?
.....



IIRC, this idea to search around PDM came from a poster from the AH board a couple weeks ago, not from Tim Miller himself. The poster's research and info on PDM can be found on the J4H blog.


I read it and it is very interesting info.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 23, 2009, 01:17:32 PM




(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing101c.gif)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Beautiful, Brandi.  Thank you.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 23, 2009, 02:12:40 PM
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3575/childsupport00011.jpg       It seems Crystal is paying the child support.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on August 23, 2009, 02:42:24 PM
The remark ( whose source was not here ) about bothering to help that family has nothing to do with trying to find a missing child. Children go missing from good families and gawd awful ones. I am not crazy about what I have seen of Ms. Neves and Ms. Sykes, but they are grandmothers and must be hurting for their girl being missing.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 23, 2009, 02:58:27 PM
The remark ( whose source was not here ) about bothering to help that family has nothing to do with trying to find a missing child. Children go missing from good families and gawd awful ones. I am not crazy about what I have seen of Ms. Neves and Ms. Sykes, but they are grandmothers and must be hurting for their girl being missing.
I remember someone saying, I believe it was a searcher, that was surprised that someone at a gas station/store made a remark such as that. Even if you don't like a family, the child has nothing to do with that, and statements like that are horrible. I feel in Lindsey Baum's case as well, people who don't care for the family are also not helping.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 23, 2009, 05:41:48 PM
I am still appalled that Misty only has a 7th grade education.....you would think that someone would have seen to it that Misty at least made it to highschool....I thought that was the law?.....it is really sad....
Very sad, and she probably thinks she has quite the catch with Ron.

This is an example of backwoods hillbilly culture (that I grew up in).  What is so very sad is that Misty is not motivated by important things like getting a public education.  That can be done with a motivated kid, even if the parents or family is not motivated, or are drugged out of their minds most the time.  Generally the teachers help out a lot in such situations to the extent they can, according to the kid's circumstances.

I highly doubt if truancy from school is followed up on in the backwoods.
I was shocked to find out that in 1983 they still used outhouses in Alabama....
In '83, that is entirely possible, especially in the rural south.  I've known people who much later did not have internal plumbing.  The family church has not had plumbing ever.  Maybe one of these days- - - -


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 23, 2009, 05:45:31 PM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing98.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh

Lovely Brandi!


mouse says:

Until you have walked in Ronald Cummings shoes, do not judge him"...Tim Miller, TES, Welaka First Baptist Church.... 8/16/09

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,140.msg65311.html#msg65311

Sunday TM had friends of TES bring horses for he and Ron to ride and talk.  He thought this would be good for Ronald.

What a nice thing to do.  These friends were l l/2 hours away but did this because they too felt Ronald needed an outlet.  These wonderful people have invited Ronald to come to their ranch and ride anytime he wants.

Thank God for compassionate people.

http://www.artharris.com/forum/index.php/topic,140.msg65310.html#msg65310
That is something that Ron would REALLY enjoy.  That was a find gesture by Tim Miller.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 23, 2009, 05:53:20 PM
(snipped)Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, Haleigh's biological parents, have been publicly cleared in the investigation.

Does anyone have a problem with this statement but me? Surely this is a tactic that LE is using to cause division between the family?

I think that it is extremly odd that Ron had Misty call 911 instead of himself,he was tearing up the house looking for Haleigh ...okay....but we have all seen the house and it would take just a few minutes to run through there and look for her and could have been done while he was on the cell phone with 911....It sounded like to me that Misty was distracted from the 911 operator by him during the call. And then he hung up on them and when they called back it rang for awhile before he answered and they asked for Misty it sounded like she said that she didn't want to talk anymore?
Do I think that she is innocent no way no how but i think that he is involved in some way even if it is just after the fact.
You can see in the tv interviews that he is coaching her and she seems to be trying to remember what she is suppose to say.....and did not do very well so that was all we saw of her.
In my oppinion his behavior is just as odd as hers. He just knows how to say "I don't know I was at work" and I guess she was suppose to say " I don't know I was sleeping" but when she was asked additional questions that I guess she felt that she should know the answers to she tried to add to the story and it got way out of control.


This is also the only explanation that I can come up with for Ron's family defending Misty so much......There are a 1,000 things that could have happened ...someone followed her home etc but still it does not fit with either one of their behaviors......even if she can not remember some things about that night the things that she can remember should not change unless she remembers something that adds to her story and fits in correctly....

Does anyone else think that Ron was in on this in some way too????
yep
  Misty is like a loose cannon.  She may just make up things as she goes, a habit that is difficult to break.  I don't believe that she is too bright, or at least bright enough to use her curremt situation to respond appropriately.  Let's say that she is unable to plan or to recognize that what she may say can have future consequences.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 23, 2009, 08:12:21 PM
Misty is like a loose cannon.  She may just make up things as she goes, a habit that is difficult to break.  I don't believe that she is too bright, or at least bright enough to use her curremt situation to respond appropriately.  Let's say that she is unable to plan or to recognize that what she may say can have future consequences.

Precisely why IMO she should not have been in charge of two small children.

 ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 23, 2009, 08:19:04 PM
Misty is like a loose cannon.  She may just make up things as she goes, a habit that is difficult to break.  I don't believe that she is too bright, or at least bright enough to use her curremt situation to respond appropriately.  Let's say that she is unable to plan or to recognize that what she may say can have future consequences.

Precisely why IMO she should not have been in charge of two small children.

 ::MonkeyShocked::
Exactly, there is no way she should have had all that responsibility.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Grandmaof4 on August 23, 2009, 10:39:10 PM
Please Dear God  ....let someone find this little girl soon.  It has been too long!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on August 23, 2009, 11:24:53 PM
Please Dear God  ....let someone find this little girl soon.  It has been too long!

I certainly join you in that prayer, Grandmaof4! Please God, help someone find Haleigh!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Anna on August 24, 2009, 12:26:39 AM
I thought in the beginning it was said that Misty was from Michigan.  I wonder how long she has been living in FL if anyone knows.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 24, 2009, 01:54:31 AM
I thought in the beginning it was said that Misty was from Michigan.  I wonder how long she has been living in FL if anyone knows.

From my notes as of Feb. 2009:

"She is originally from Michigan. She has lived in Florida for about seven years. Croslin has lived in various parts of the state, including Daytona, where she lived with her brother. - She has lived in Putnam County off and on for about a year."

A news article with the same info is at: http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090213/ARTICLES/902130293?Title=Misty-Croslin-who-was-watching-Haleigh-tells-about-herself

Hi Anna, LTNS.

 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: theboyzmom on August 24, 2009, 10:02:57 AM
I thought in the beginning it was said that Misty was from Michigan.  I wonder how long she has been living in FL if anyone knows.

From my notes as of Feb. 2009:

"She is originally from Michigan. She has lived in Florida for about seven years. Croslin has lived in various parts of the state, including Daytona, where she lived with her brother. - She has lived in Putnam County off and on for about a year."

A news article with the same info is at: http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090213/ARTICLES/902130293?Title=Misty-Croslin-who-was-watching-Haleigh-tells-about-herself

Hi Anna, LTNS.

 

Do we know where in Michigan she was from? I know there was talk of the SO cousin being from the Freeland area (which is not far from me)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 24, 2009, 10:22:06 AM
I thought in the beginning it was said that Misty was from Michigan.  I wonder how long she has been living in FL if anyone knows.

From my notes as of Feb. 2009:

"She is originally from Michigan. She has lived in Florida for about seven years. Croslin has lived in various parts of the state, including Daytona, where she lived with her brother. - She has lived in Putnam County off and on for about a year."

A news article with the same info is at: http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090213/ARTICLES/902130293?Title=Misty-Croslin-who-was-watching-Haleigh-tells-about-herself

Hi Anna, LTNS.

 

Do we know where in Michigan she was from? I know there was talk of the SO cousin being from the Freeland area (which is not far from me)

Morning TBMom~I thought he was from TN........will check again to make sure.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 24, 2009, 11:19:26 AM
Are they really going to search around PDM bridge ?
.....



IIRC, this idea to search around PDM came from a poster from the AH board a couple weeks ago, not from Tim Miller himself. The poster's research and info on PDM can be found on the J4H blog.


I read it and it is very interesting info.

I do too NRCG.........I also agree with Klaas about PSCO not calling Ron a suspect, I have seen many cases where LE puts that out there hoping the person slips up once they feel comfortable in not being named suspect. The PDM area is very dark and that North 40 area looks spooky to me.... ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 24, 2009, 11:56:06 AM
That area around PDM is very spooky.  One thing that I just can't stop thinking about was that dumpster that the dogs hit on early in the case, I can't get past that, and I just wonder......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 24, 2009, 01:59:30 PM
Missing Haleigh Cummings - Cobra Needs Your Help To Continue Investigating

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rFyvQtjt50


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 24, 2009, 03:17:36 PM
Missing Haleigh Cummings - Cobra Needs Your Help To Continue Investigating

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rFyvQtjt50

Wow, asking for donations via Youtube. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: seahorse on August 24, 2009, 03:22:21 PM
I thought in the beginning it was said that Misty was from Michigan.  I wonder how long she has been living in FL if anyone knows.

From my notes as of Feb. 2009:

"She is originally from Michigan. She has lived in Florida for about seven years. Croslin has lived in various parts of the state, including Daytona, where she lived with her brother. - She has lived in Putnam County off and on for about a year."

A news article with the same info is at: http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090213/ARTICLES/902130293?Title=Misty-Croslin-who-was-watching-Haleigh-tells-about-herself

Hi Anna, LTNS.

 

HI Brandi,

This is what I gleaned: one of Misty's brother attended Freeland Middle School /High School, Freeland, MI.
I do not have any information if Misty attended school at this location.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: theboyzmom on August 24, 2009, 03:58:38 PM
I thought in the beginning it was said that Misty was from Michigan.  I wonder how long she has been living in FL if anyone knows.

From my notes as of Feb. 2009:

"She is originally from Michigan. She has lived in Florida for about seven years. Croslin has lived in various parts of the state, including Daytona, where she lived with her brother. - She has lived in Putnam County off and on for about a year."

A news article with the same info is at: http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090213/ARTICLES/902130293?Title=Misty-Croslin-who-was-watching-Haleigh-tells-about-herself

Hi Anna, LTNS.

 

HI Brandi,

This is what I gleaned: one of Misty's brother attended Freeland Middle School /High School, Freeland, MI.
I do not have any information if Misty attended school at this location.


This may be because there is a SO treatment center in Freeland - normally they are attached to the school in the district they are located. Hard to find a center to take the really screwed up kids . . .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 24, 2009, 04:07:33 PM
Missing Haleigh Cummings - Cobra Needs Your Help To Continue Investigating

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rFyvQtjt50

Wow, asking for donations via Youtube. ::MonkeyNoNo::
unbelievable................................


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 24, 2009, 04:12:13 PM
Missing Haleigh Cummings - Cobra Needs Your Help To Continue Investigating

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rFyvQtjt50

Wow, asking for donations via Youtube. ::MonkeyNoNo::
unbelievable................................
I thought Cobra had pretty much finished with this case, but guess not.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 24, 2009, 04:40:40 PM
Missing Haleigh Cummings - Cobra Needs Your Help To Continue Investigating

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rFyvQtjt50

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
No money from me (that will go to TES), but maybe some shampoo and a brush ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 24, 2009, 04:51:00 PM
Missing Haleigh Cummings - Cobra Needs Your Help To Continue Investigating

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rFyvQtjt50

Wow, asking for donations via Youtube. ::MonkeyNoNo::
unbelievable................................
I thought Cobra had pretty much finished with this case, but guess not.

No, Cobra just about had the floor to himself on Blogger Talk Radio yesterday and he was in his natural form, even more so than norm. No TJ Hart, no Art Harris, just mostly Cobra.

Quite nauseating!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 24, 2009, 04:55:42 PM
WTH is Cobra hanging around interferring, at first I thought he might do some good, but not anymore.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 24, 2009, 04:57:10 PM
WTH is Cobra hanging around interferring, at first I thought he might do some good, but not anymore.

I thought so too at first...now he just needs to hit the road and quit whining imo....what has he done for Haleigh lately?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 24, 2009, 05:12:08 PM
Missing Haleigh Cummings - Cobra Needs Your Help To Continue Investigating

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rFyvQtjt50

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
No money from me (that will go to TES), but maybe some shampoo and a brush ::MonkeyDevil2::
LOL.....he just needs to stop, I havent sen him do anything to find HaLeigh at all, ever,


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 24, 2009, 05:31:26 PM
WTH is Cobra hanging around interferring, at first I thought he might do some good, but not anymore.


He showed his hand way too quick from the very start when he tried to get Misty to talk to him & told Ron that he was going to do that, and she reneged.  A smart PI wouldn't have told anyone what they were up to. 

I think he's trying to be the Leonard P of the Haleigh case. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 24, 2009, 05:57:36 PM
WTH is Cobra hanging around interferring, at first I thought he might do some good, but not anymore.

I thought so too at first...now he just needs to hit the road and quit whining imo....what has he done for Haleigh lately?

In the beginning I thought maybe he would get some answers and he would bring Haleigh home... All he has done is sending out smoke rings going in circles and spreading rumors , hearsay and then blaming all the bloggers... If your going to go on a show and make statements finish your statement with facts dont keep anyone hanging who is listening.. For example he stated on 1 show 2 girls were pregnant.. Well why not tell the listeners who they are and by who...Why keep the listeners in limbo.. Now thats how rumors start..The time Neves lead him in the woods and then suddenly left given the impression to the viewers he was set up...If you going on a show have the guts to back up what your saying and finish it... This show is not supposed to about Cobra its about Haleigh.. In my oppinion there is nothing new on that show that we have already known about regarding Haleigh gone missing..JMO

Where Is Haleigh.... ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 24, 2009, 06:13:07 PM
WTH is Cobra hanging around interferring, at first I thought he might do some good, but not anymore.


He showed his hand way too quick from the very start when he tried to get Misty to talk to him & told Ron that he was going to do that, and she reneged.  A smart PI wouldn't have told anyone what they were up to. 

I think he's trying to be the Leonard P of the Haleigh case. 

Even before that Bud's Girl, before he tried to get Misty to do a re-enactment of the night HaLeigh went missing.

Remember when it was reported that some unknown man was going around questioning the locals, and everyone was wondering who the mystery man was.

It has always been my opinion that the locals had no respect and was really annoyed with those outsiders coming in and attempting to run the show.  None of which wore a badge, none of which were/are FBI or LE.

I believe they hinder the case just as much as anyone else, if not more so.

And especially Cobra with his big SUV, big guns, and big camera & video equipment.

He should be thankful he made it out of there with just lost of funds.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 24, 2009, 06:24:18 PM
WTH is Cobra hanging around interferring, at first I thought he might do some good, but not anymore.


He showed his hand way too quick from the very start when he tried to get Misty to talk to him & told Ron that he was going to do that, and she reneged.  A smart PI wouldn't have told anyone what they were up to. 

I think he's trying to be the Leonard P of the Haleigh case. 
I agree, it didnt work out too well for him did it...lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 24, 2009, 06:43:18 PM
WTH is Cobra hanging around interferring, at first I thought he might do some good, but not anymore.


He showed his hand way too quick from the very start when he tried to get Misty to talk to him & told Ron that he was going to do that, and she reneged.  A smart PI wouldn't have told anyone what they were up to. 

I think he's trying to be the Leonard P of the Haleigh case. 

Even before that Bud's Girl, before he tried to get Misty to do a re-enactment of the night HaLeigh went missing.

Remember when it was reported that some unknown man was going around questioning the locals, and everyone was wondering who the mystery man was.

It has always been my opinion that the locals had no respect and was really annoyed with those outsiders coming in and attempting to run the show.  None of which wore a badge, none of which were/are FBI or LE.

I believe they hinder the case just as much as anyone else, if not more so.

And especially Cobra with his big SUV, big guns, and big camera & video equipment.

He should be thankful he made it out of there with just lost of funds.

I agree Heart...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 24, 2009, 06:49:47 PM
WTH is Cobra hanging around interferring, at first I thought he might do some good, but not anymore.


He showed his hand way too quick from the very start when he tried to get Misty to talk to him & told Ron that he was going to do that, and she reneged.  A smart PI wouldn't have told anyone what they were up to. 

I think he's trying to be the Leonard P of the Haleigh case. 

Even before that Bud's Girl, before he tried to get Misty to do a re-enactment of the night HaLeigh went missing.

Remember when it was reported that some unknown man was going around questioning the locals, and everyone was wondering who the mystery man was.

It has always been my opinion that the locals had no respect and was really annoyed with those outsiders coming in and attempting to run the show.  None of which wore a badge, none of which were/are FBI or LE.

I believe they hinder the case just as much as anyone else, if not more so.

And especially Cobra with his big SUV, big guns, and big camera & video equipment.

He should be thankful he made it out of there with just lost of funds.

Heart, I so agree with this. Personally, I had a small hope for him doing something constructive in Putnam County, but I never held much respect for him, nor any confidence that he would be able to help. He came in bragging about how many captures he had under his belt. That never sat well with me. And he was associated with Picazio, who from the git-go made me shiver. And he started asking for money very early on. He should just go home, IMO.

O/T: Heart: I left you 2 posts starting here: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4314.msg914152#msg914152

And hello Seahorse, I saw you say hi to me! ;-)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 24, 2009, 08:46:59 PM
 I have a new theory…I think that too much time has passed for my previous theory to still be possible.

I have been thinking about Misty  and  how  she seems to manipulate people and use them to get what she wants leaving her to look ever so  innocent. Take for  instance when she wanted  to take Ron from Amber, she told Ron that he had better watch  her that she was being mean to his kids.( I am sure that she let him know that anytime he needed a nice sitter she would be there) And it worked.

Then there is cousin Joe…I think that Ron and Joe hit it off just fine and that they were running around cruising and hanging out maybe even picking up on some girls etc. and Misty was stuck there at the house taking care of the kids and I think that she took the gun and hid it in the drainage whistler of her brothers driveway and then one time when Joe left from over there she told Ron that she seen Joe put something in his pants and it looked like a gun and Ron looked and his gun was gone so he confronted Joe and accused him of taking the gun causing a riff in between Ron and Joe. Problem solved and she looked really loyal for ratting out her own.

Then the fight at Rons g-mas house ….I think that Ron and her got into a fight and she wanted Ron to be punished but she was afraid of Ron so she called her brother and was crying to him about how Ron was being mean to her and how she wish that she had somewhere to go and he said I will come and get you but she said “Oh no I’ll just stay here , it will be okay”….knowing full well that her brother was going to come over to see about her and that Ron and him would get into a fight and Ron would go to jail for assault…..just what she wanted to happen but Ron is mad at her brother not at her . How perfect is that? And to top it off she bails him out the next day and puts a restraining order on her brother. Mission accomplished and again no sign of her hand in the cookie jar.

Well, taking all of that into consideration …what about Haleigh? I think that she was highly jealous of Haleigh and Ron….she wanted to be Ron’s lil girl not Haleigh and plus the responsibility of getting her ready for school,doctor’s appointments,etc. ,hyperactive due to Turners Syndrome,plus the fact that she would tell on her if she had people over to the house that Ron did not approve of. I would love to know what was said the night that Ron and Misty got in to the fight over her being pg….I wonder if Ron said anything about they did not need another child that Haleigh was more than  enough for them to take care of or something?….Misty had plenty of reasons to want Haleigh gone.

So we know that Misty hung around with a lot of people with some serious issues…..like Donald S. and DanielS. Etc…..what if she knew someone else that had these sort of tendencies and she set them up to take the fall?? Like maybe she just said something like Oh I am so tired I  am going to go home and go to bed ….I had to give the kids a sedative so they won’t wake up and get into stuff while I am sleeping, Lord knows I wouldn’t wake up …I am kind of nervous though because Ron has to work late tonite and the back door lock is messed up it doesn’t catch well….I guess  it will be okay , I have to sleep. Knowing full well that person would come to the house and take Haleigh….kinda like if someone just got out of jail for burglary you wouldn’t say “ Hey can you watch my purse while I go to the bathroom”…..

This way if they ask her did you harm Haleigh ? She can say no and pass the poly…..do you know where Haleigh is at ? And she can say no and pass…..You know the family has asked Ron or LE about Misty’s poly and they probably told them that she passed the questions about  Haleigh but that there are inconsistencies in her timeline so the family probably does think that she is innocent.

I think that the inconsistencies come from the fact that she probably told Ron that someone took Haleigh and that it was somehow related to the Drug use/sales/robbery….so he went into action and told her okay this is what we are going to say and he staged the whole thing….he thought that if this got out that he would be ruined….well Misty has already got what she wanted and so she does not care about staging, talking to 911 operators or even the fact that there are inconsistencies in her story…she knows that even if they catch the person that took Haleigh and they tell all that she will not be prosecuted ……she will just be the young stupid girl that said  the wrong thing to the wrong person……Remember Chelsea saying that Misty says things that just come out wrong….how it is almost like they have to tell her to watch what she says ? ….hummmmm Where did that come from???

They have to find out where she was that day and who she was talking to….if they find the person they may very well search around their home area and find Haleigh….JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 24, 2009, 10:09:01 PM
WTH is Cobra hanging around interferring, at first I thought he might do some good, but not anymore.


He showed his hand way too quick from the very start when he tried to get Misty to talk to him & told Ron that he was going to do that, and she reneged.  A smart PI wouldn't have told anyone what they were up to. 

I think he's trying to be the Leonard P of the Haleigh case. 

Even before that Bud's Girl, before he tried to get Misty to do a re-enactment of the night HaLeigh went missing.

Remember when it was reported that some unknown man was going around questioning the locals, and everyone was wondering who the mystery man was.

It has always been my opinion that the locals had no respect and was really annoyed with those outsiders coming in and attempting to run the show.  None of which wore a badge, none of which were/are FBI or LE.

I believe they hinder the case just as much as anyone else, if not more so.

And especially Cobra with his big SUV, big guns, and big camera & video equipment.

He should be thankful he made it out of there with just lost of funds.

Heart, I so agree with this. Personally, I had a small hope for him doing something constructive in Putnam County, but I never held much respect for him, nor any confidence that he would be able to help. He came in bragging about how many captures he had under his belt. That never sat well with me. And he was associated with Picazio, who from the git-go made me shiver. And he started asking for money very early on. He should just go home, IMO.

O/T: Heart: I left you 2 posts starting here: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4314.msg914152#msg914152

And hello Seahorse, I saw you say hi to me! ;-)

Got both Brandi and responded.

TIA!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 24, 2009, 10:21:57 PM
I have a new theory…I think that too much time has passed for my previous theory to still be possible.

I have been thinking about Misty  and  how  she seems to manipulate people and use them to get what she wants leaving her to look ever so  innocent. Take for  instance when she wanted  to take Ron from Amber, she told Ron that he had better watch  her that she was being mean to his kids.( I am sure that she let him know that anytime he needed a nice sitter she would be there) And it worked.

Then there is cousin Joe…I think that Ron and Joe hit it off just fine and that they were running around cruising and hanging out maybe even picking up on some girls etc. and Misty was stuck there at the house taking care of the kids and I think that she took the gun and hid it in the drainage whistler of her brothers driveway and then one time when Joe left from over there she told Ron that she seen Joe put something in his pants and it looked like a gun and Ron looked and his gun was gone so he confronted Joe and accused him of taking the gun causing a riff in between Ron and Joe. Problem solved and she looked really loyal for ratting out her own.

Then the fight at Rons g-mas house ….I think that Ron and her got into a fight and she wanted Ron to be punished but she was afraid of Ron so she called her brother and was crying to him about how Ron was being mean to her and how she wish that she had somewhere to go and he said I will come and get you but she said “Oh no I’ll just stay here , it will be okay”….knowing full well that her brother was going to come over to see about her and that Ron and him would get into a fight and Ron would go to jail for assault…..just what she wanted to happen but Ron is mad at her brother not at her . How perfect is that? And to top it off she bails him out the next day and puts a restraining order on her brother. Mission accomplished and again no sign of her hand in the cookie jar.

Well, taking all of that into consideration …what about Haleigh? I think that she was highly jealous of Haleigh and Ron….she wanted to be Ron’s lil girl not Haleigh and plus the responsibility of getting her ready for school,doctor’s appointments,etc. ,hyperactive due to Turners Syndrome,plus the fact that she would tell on her if she had people over to the house that Ron did not approve of. I would love to know what was said the night that Ron and Misty got in to the fight over her being pg….I wonder if Ron said anything about they did not need another child that Haleigh was more than  enough for them to take care of or something?….Misty had plenty of reasons to want Haleigh gone.

So we know that Misty hung around with a lot of people with some serious issues…..like Donald S. and DanielS. Etc…..what if she knew someone else that had these sort of tendencies and she set them up to take the fall?? Like maybe she just said something like Oh I am so tired I  am going to go home and go to bed ….I had to give the kids a sedative so they won’t wake up and get into stuff while I am sleeping, Lord knows I wouldn’t wake up …I am kind of nervous though because Ron has to work late tonite and the back door lock is messed up it doesn’t catch well….I guess  it will be okay , I have to sleep. Knowing full well that person would come to the house and take Haleigh….kinda like if someone just got out of jail for burglary you wouldn’t say “ Hey can you watch my purse while I go to the bathroom”…..

This way if they ask her did you harm Haleigh ? She can say no and pass the poly…..do you know where Haleigh is at ? And she can say no and pass…..You know the family has asked Ron or LE about Misty’s poly and they probably told them that she passed the questions about  Haleigh but that there are inconsistencies in her timeline so the family probably does think that she is innocent.

I think that the inconsistencies come from the fact that she probably told Ron that someone took Haleigh and that it was somehow related to the Drug use/sales/robbery….so he went into action and told her okay this is what we are going to say and he staged the whole thing….he thought that if this got out that he would be ruined….well Misty has already got what she wanted and so she does not care about staging, talking to 911 operators or even the fact that there are inconsistencies in her story…she knows that even if they catch the person that took Haleigh and they tell all that she will not be prosecuted ……she will just be the young stupid girl that said  the wrong thing to the wrong person……Remember Chelsea saying that Misty says things that just come out wrong….how it is almost like they have to tell her to watch what she says ? ….hummmmm Where did that come from???

They have to find out where she was that day and who she was talking to….if they find the person they may very well search around their home area and find Haleigh….JMO
i like it.  and i could see it happening.  good post imo!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 24, 2009, 10:30:15 PM
my2cents...i haven't hear a ditch called a whistler in years...lol.   ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 24, 2009, 10:31:40 PM
my2cents very good post  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 24, 2009, 10:56:48 PM
my2cents...i haven't hear a ditch called a whistler in years...lol.   ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer2::
LOL I was trying to think of what it was called a drainage???? heck I don't know to me it has always been a whistler LOL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 24, 2009, 11:13:51 PM
my2cents...i haven't hear a ditch called a whistler in years...lol.   ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer2::
LOL I was trying to think of what it was called a drainage???? heck I don't know to me it has always been a whistler LOL
::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 24, 2009, 11:14:58 PM
Formal complaint filed to Florida Department of Children and Families
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 24, 2009, 11:23:56 PM
 ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 24, 2009, 11:27:29 PM
::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 24, 2009, 11:33:19 PM
 ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeySlide:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 24, 2009, 11:34:30 PM
now i want to know how you did it... ::MonkeyTease:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 24, 2009, 11:43:49 PM
Formal complaint filed to Florida Department of Children and Families
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 ::MonkeyRoll::

I can't take this nut job serious, he's asking for donations at the bottom of that link

   
 
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 24, 2009, 11:51:22 PM
Formal complaint filed to Florida Department of Children and Families
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 ::MonkeyRoll::

I can't take this nut job serious, he's asking for donations at the bottom of that link

   
 
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i need a clapping monkey!   ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 25, 2009, 12:00:18 AM
Formal complaint filed to Florida Department of Children and Families
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 ::MonkeyRoll::

I can't take this nut job serious, he's asking for donations at the bottom of that link

   
 
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i need a clapping monkey!   ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyAngel::

well, at least he removed the part from his bio about the maggots in his rectum ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 25, 2009, 12:00:47 AM
Formal complaint filed to Florida Department of Children and Families
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I have a rough time taking anything this guy says seriously.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 25, 2009, 12:01:49 AM
Formal complaint filed to Florida Department of Children and Families
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 ::MonkeyRoll::

I can't take this nut job serious, he's asking for donations at the bottom of that link

   
 
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Amen, I think thats why he and Cobra butted heads to begin with, each one was trying to outdo the other with requests for donations and they didnt want to share..MOO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 25, 2009, 12:02:35 AM
Formal complaint filed to Florida Department of Children and Families
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 ::MonkeyRoll::

I can't take this nut job serious, he's asking for donations at the bottom of that link

   
 
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i need a clapping monkey!   ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyAngel::

well, at least he removed the part from his bio about the maggots in his rectum ::MonkeyEek::
do what?  how did i miss THAT?  more info please ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 25, 2009, 12:05:39 AM
Formal complaint filed to Florida Department of Children and Families
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I have a rough time taking anything this guy says seriously.

 ::MonkeyGavel:: Me too~I think he has wayyyyy to much time on his hands and...........well, better not say much more or he might file a complaint against me ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 25, 2009, 12:07:35 AM
Formal complaint filed to Florida Department of Children and Families
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 ::MonkeyRoll::

I can't take this nut job serious, he's asking for donations at the bottom of that link

   
 
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i need a clapping monkey!   ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyAngel::

well, at least he removed the part from his bio about the maggots in his rectum ::MonkeyEek::
do what?  how did i miss THAT?  more info please ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyDevil::

He has since removed more than 75% of his bio which was bizzare to put it mildly ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 25, 2009, 12:11:21 AM
 ::MonkeyRoll::

I found one of his "bios":

by Timothy Charles Holmseth

 “Oh how beautiful,” I think to myself.

 As I ponder the image of the adorable little baby gazing up at me, a gentle smile at the corner of its eye, I slowly begin to drift toward the place where she is.

And yet again, I have made a horrible mistake.

In an instant the tender eyes of the child morph into those of a dog, its gentle smile becomes a menacing grin with rows and rows of green rotten teeth as it giggles, “Timmy, Timmy, Timmy – wanna dance, wanna dance, wanna dance?”

Oh, my God!

It feels like a cement block is sitting on my chest as I fight ferociously to breathe. I can’t get my eyes to open. My battle for oxygen abruptly ends because I cannot feel by body anymore. I know my eyes are ‘there somewhere’ but they won’t obey my commands. They are attached to my carcass like closed windows. I desperately need to see the light but I can’t open my eyes – ‘I’ am not attached to them anymore. I am yelling out to them, commanding them to open, but they don’t recognize my voice.

Oh, my God, not this place again!

A squealing roar permeates the entire abyss where I am trapped. Another specter runs up and assaults the baby-monster, biting into its toes and grinding them around in its teeth. The sound of squealing and crunching bones is audible as blood squirts all over, then turns into feces. Then, in an instant, the baby becomes a real human again. “What are you looking at f—ker,” it says. Then as suddenly, I am inside of its intestines. 

 “Get attached to your eyes,” I hear a voice saying to me. “Try to get attached to your eyes! Let in the light. Let in the light! Get to the light!”

The shrill noises are becoming deafening. The specters are excreting on each other and eating it. They are engaging in sexual acts with instruments. They are raping and torturing each other. They are licking their fingers and giggling – they laugh and they cry - there is no up, down, or horizon. One of them tells me he wants to live inside of my bones, un-peels a banana, and then politely offers me a bite – his skin turns to banana peels – there are maggots on him that I can smell, and I can ‘taste’ the smell.

 It is truly the weeping and gnashing of teeth.

 “Your eyes Tim, your eyes,” I hear again. I know the only escape from this horrible place is through my eyes because the light is on the other side of them. I begin to hear a chant that gets faster and faster as if tapping a well; “Your eyes, your eyes, your eyes, your eyes, your eyes, your eyes…”

 Wham!!! I am pulverized by a huge wave of light and my back arches up like I have been electrocuted. My eyes flip and flutter as light pours into me like oxygen into someone who has been underwater for several minutes.

“Oh thank God!” I try to say. I can’t really talk, though. Nothing on me works properly anymore. There’s no one in charge. I have been relegated to an ******* of my own death. I am allowed to participate with my body for only very brief moments.

The sight of the ceiling, windows, and toddler bed in the room are evidence that I am back on earth. I make a weak fist and try to slam it into my chest. I somehow know I am having a heart attack and I am trying to give myself CPR – I just keep gasping.

My body is convulsing.

I attempt to thrust my right arm across my body in a failed effort to create enough momentum to roll myself off the bed. I am trying to fall onto the cold hard floor where it is harder to drift or ‘sleep.’ I have been drunk for over a year straight with no break and I weigh about 85 pounds. My arm just flaps and dangles. I want to cry but that requires energy my body does not have, and I am so dehydrated I would have no tears anyway.

I am so, so alone.

Lying there I can feel my bladder and bowels have been emptied into my pants. It means absolutely nothing to me.

“Don’t shut your eyes, Tim,” I hear again. I know if my eyes stay closed I will remain in that place forever. I have known that for the past three days now as I have departed and returned to my body over and over - I am dying.

I am dying - and I am going to hell.

The Nut Ward

How my body got to the phone in the other room is a mystery. The ambulance ride is a vague memory. I arrive at what the locals call “the third floor.” It is the nut ward of the Northwest Medical Center in Thief River Falls, Minnesota.

“You don’t have much longer to live,” the doctor says. “Your liver never stops trying to clean your blood. You’re going to die, soon.”

From my plastic mat on the floor where I lay in paper pajamas, the tall dark figure in front of the opened steel door speaks to me, glancing up and down from his clip-board. I am deeply medicated to keep me from convulsing or having a heart-attack, so the octaves of his voice are fluctuating and waning as he speaks. “When they brought you in here last night they tried-tried- tried to test your blood alcohol content but the digital lab equipment couldn’t read it. It only reads up to .49 nine-nine-nine-nine,” he says. “You’re going to die die-diiiiii-Die-diiiiiiii.”

My life before this rubber-room was a dizzying kaleidoscope of sinful consumption, sexual immorality, and moral lawlessness, not to mention physical and spiritual sloth. I was a selfish pig of a human being. In all truth, I had a demon in me, and these warnings of impending death meant nothing.

However, this was different.

I suddenly realized my little resume of sickening godlessness had been recorded onto the spiritual elements of my eternal consciousness. Our life is a trial and our spirit is the evidence. My trial was held and my spirit testified truthfully against me. My sentence was completely in line with righteous truth.

Death!

Yet, for some reason, the creator of light let me appeal my sentence. He gave me one more chance.

As the years slowly passed I could not forget hell’s dunking tank. I began to wonder why I was held under so long, so many times, but always lifted out at the very last moment.

Then I heard a song on the radio one day.

 

Once there was this kid who
Got into an accident and couldn't come to school
But when he finally came back
His hair had turned from black into bright white
He said that it was from when

The cars had smashed so hard

     -Crash Test Dummies/”Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm”

 
 

During the Vietnam War a little black-haired Vietnamese boy survived a B-52  airstrike by crawling into a hole. When he crawled back out after the bombing was over, he stumbled home in a daze. Within a week or so, the small child’s pitch-black hair began to turn completely white – like an old man.

He had become so scared that it literally altered his molecules.

Pim van Lommel is a cardiologist at Hospital Rijnstate, Arnhem, Netherlands. His extensive research and some 344 case-studies on Near Death Experiences (NDE) have easily earned him the title of expert in this niche’ and fascinating field.

I decided to take some questions I had, to him.

“NDE’s are life changing events, causing a new insight in life, (and death, of course), and people know after an NDE what is important in their life now,” he says. “Which is not addiction anymore,” he adds. 

Statistics show the majority of people who have had an NDE recount it as being very positive, and often they grieve over being forced to return to their body. A very small percentage of the cases, van Lommel says, do not fit that pattern. “The content of one’s NDE is dependent of the state of contact with aspects of one’s own consciousness, so it can be terrifying as well,” he explains. “This happens in about 1 – 2 percent of all reported cases of NDE.”

Terrifying would be a gross understatement for what I witnessed, felt, and experienced in that place. But what was the purpose of it all, I wondered. Why was I always allowed to return to the light? I knew each reprieve was not of my own will. Looking back, I can see the disciplined methodology and strict timing that was involved. It seemed rather cruel and sadistic, I thought.

Harold G. Koenig, M.D. is a Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at Duke University Medical Center, Durham, NC. “There is a study that shows that psychological stress results in the shortening of telomeres, which is the protein that makes up the end of the DNA molecule,” he explains. The telomere is the cell's biological clock.  “When the telomeres are used up, the cell dies,” he says.

Molecular sciences have shown that during our life about 500,000 cells die each second. That equates to about 50 billion cells in our body being replaced each year – each year we are 98 percent brand new. The death of our cells therefore, is simply the process by which we age, because each time the cell dies a new one must be copied, and that process shortens the telomeres just a bit.

I cannot begin to imagine how many cells I lost in that place. Yet, that would also mean I gained just as many new ones.

Starving, dehydrated, soiled, and babbling like a dying abandoned infant, I lay there alone. Closing my eyes, foolish enough to believe I was going to heaven, I found myself inside the rectum of an animal; tasting the maggots of hell.

“Psychological stress likely contributes to the aging process,” Koenig says.

I now believe I understand.

I was 27 years-old and the time had come to grow up.

Now 40, a father of two, I bear no resemblance to the Timothy Holmseth born June 17, 1968. Sometimes, folks who knew me those years ago venture to ask what happened. I typically reply with a gentle nod and upward gaze.

What else could I say?

I guess “it was from when the cars had smashed so hard.”



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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 25, 2009, 12:20:25 AM
wow...wow...
crazy much?  wasn't this they guy involved in an adoption??  like he gave up a kid?  if not, well..crazy much?  if so ..Oh thank you God! ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 25, 2009, 10:26:21 AM
Timothy Charles Holmseth
He is loonier than I thought  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 25, 2009, 11:46:04 AM
Formal complaint filed to Florida Department of Children and Families
http://writeintoaction.com/

I have a rough time taking anything this guy says seriously.

 ::MonkeyGavel:: Me too~I think he has wayyyyy to much time on his hands and...........well, better not say much more or he might file a complaint against me ::MonkeyDevil2::

LOL, I imagine the individuals that are the recipients of his complains have a rough time taking him seriously as well. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 25, 2009, 11:51:04 AM
wow...wow...
crazy much?  wasn't this they guy involved in an adoption??  like he gave up a kid?  if not, well..crazy much?  if so ..Oh thank you God! ::MonkeyAngel::

If the adoption thing is true, then I applaud him for that.  A child would probably be better off adopted by someone that truly wanted he or she.  And at least he or she would not be aborted,  an unwanted abused or abused, or missing, or dead child. jmo!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 25, 2009, 11:57:05 AM
now i want to know how you did it... ::MonkeyTease:: ::MonkeyAngel::

Right click on your avatar, then click properties http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/avatars/na7.gif and then post it as an [img]


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 25, 2009, 12:03:33 PM
wow...wow...
crazy much?  wasn't this they guy involved in an adoption??  like he gave up a kid?  if not, well..crazy much?  if so ..Oh thank you God! ::MonkeyAngel::

If the adoption thing is true, then I applaud him for that.  A child would probably be better off adopted by someone that truly wanted he or she.  And at least he or she would not be aborted,  an unwanted abused or abused, or missing, or dead child. jmo!

Excellent point!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 25, 2009, 12:30:21 PM
my2cents very good post  ::MonkeyCool::

I agree.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 25, 2009, 01:32:53 PM
UCN: 542009CF001430XXAXMX
File Date: 2009-08-06   Judge: TERRY J LARUE    
Defense Atty: SHOEMAKER, TERRY J

Defendant
CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES
Alias

Date   #   Docket Description
2009-08-06   1   ARREST REPORT - PCSO D/S QUINTIER (ARREST 8/5/09)
2009-08-06   1   BOOKING NUMBER: 09-3225
2009-08-06   1   BURGLARY OF CONVEYANCE WITH BATTERY
2009-08-06   2   DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 8/6/09
2009-08-06   2   ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY
2009-08-06   2   SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND
2009-08-06   2   $12,5004.00 SECURED BOND SET
2009-08-06   3   AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
2009-08-06   4   ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING
2009-08-07   5   $12504.00 A-1-24 HOUR CITY BEST BAIL BONDS #2148146
2009-08-07   5   AMERICAN BANKERS INSURANCE CO
2009-08-19   6   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER
2009-08-19   7   NOTICE OF DISCOVERY

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Terry J. Shoemaker
St. Augustine, Florida
phone    (866) 543-9549
(904) 201-3777
fax    (904) 824-5709
email    Email Me

Since graduating from Florida Coastal School of Law in 2003, Shoemaker worked as an Assistant State Attorney in the Seventh Judicial Circuit, spending the past two years working as a member of the Felony Trial Division. His trial experience includes DUI manslaughter, sexual battery, robbery, and drug cases. In addition to his career as an attorney, Shoemaker has over fifteen years of diverse professional experience. After receiving a Masters degree in Athletic Training, he worked as a faculty member in the Sports Medicine program at Mount Union College, then as an Athletic Trainer with the Houston Astros Professional Baseball Club. Shoemaker left the Houston Astros to attend law school after the 2000 season. Prior to completing his education, Mr. Shoemaker served in the United States Navy.

Areas of Practice:
    95% Criminal Defense
    3% Immigration Law
    2% Civil Litigation
    DUI/DWI

more...

http://www.ancientcitylaw.com/Bio/TerryShoemaker.asp


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 25, 2009, 01:36:05 PM
HALEIGH BUGS MAMAHaving a very hard day, I am missing HaLeigh so bad... All I can do right now is cry... So if there is anyone out there that knows something please let me know 5 minutes ago
Mood:missin our baby 




Crystal is having a really bad day today, she just posted this headline on her my-space page, God I hope something is found out soon, this is killing her and I wish there was something more I could do.....................I wish someone would talk, -----


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 25, 2009, 01:46:58 PM
HALEIGH BUGS MAMAHaving a very hard day, I am missing HaLeigh so bad... All I can do right now is cry... So if there is anyone out there that knows something please let me know 5 minutes ago
Mood:missin our baby 




Crystal is having a really bad day today, she just posted this headline on her my-space page, God I hope something is found out soon, this is killing her and I wish there was something more I could do.....................I wish someone would talk, -----
I know, this is just so obsurd, that Misty isn't marched down to the police station by the Cummings. And because she isn't being marched down there, leads me to think that there is more going on here.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 25, 2009, 01:54:56 PM
HALEIGH BUGS MAMAHaving a very hard day, I am missing HaLeigh so bad... All I can do right now is cry... So if there is anyone out there that knows something please let me know 5 minutes ago
Mood:missin our baby 




Crystal is having a really bad day today, she just posted this headline on her my-space page, God I hope something is found out soon, this is killing her and I wish there was something more I could do.....................I wish someone would talk, -----
I know, this is just so obsurd, that Misty isn't marched down to the police station by the Cummings. And because she isn't being marched down there, leads me to think that there is more going on here.
I agree, its terrible that someone that might have knowledge of what happened to your child is left to continue on with their life and reep the rewards of marriage and having your other child around all the while you can do nothing to get to the bottom of what really happened,....I just know Crystal is a better woman then I am, I would be marching my little butt right on over to Granny Sykes and pulling Misty out of that house by her hair and she would dang sure tell me something, or I would be sitting in jail by the end of the day...


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 25, 2009, 02:00:17 PM
I would be marching myself over there also, demanding answers.


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Famous Amy 4 minutes ago
Im so sorry for u...never could i imagine what pain ur family is going thru. I hope & pray that u will find ur precious baby,
~*Jenny*~ 14 minutes ago
God Bless you and your family in this time i pray Haleigh will come home
Joye (is the Mom) 15 minutes ago
I can only imagine the pain you are feeling as a mother. My heart aches day after day for you and your little Haleigh. My thoughts and prayers are with you each and every moment of the day. Just know there have been many lives touched by you and your daughter and even when you feel as if you are alone, we are right there beside you in spirit, holding you, praying with you, and keeping the hope alive!!!
monica 17 minutes ago
I have been praying so hard for you and your family... If there's ever anything I can do please let me know. God will bring her home to you, somehow, someway he will, I know it. God bless, and all our love and prayers...
Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒsoon2bMrs.Williams!Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 20 minutes ago
sorry...couldnt imagine what you r going threw...i pray for her and your family...i hope she comes back to safely...
~So In Love ~ 23 minutes ago
I dont know the right words I just wished GOd would bring her home safe and sound. God bless your family !!
♥Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ MiSs B@rBiE 2U Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ♥ 24 minutes ago
Try to keep the faith & trust in God as hard as it could be at times...Always praying for Haleigh's safe return... Hugssss!!!!
♥♥Donna Sue♥♥ 24 minutes ago
I am praying for u and Haleigh, I wish there was more I could do, Someone has to know something, if they would just talk...Hope to see you soon..God Bless HaLeigh.....
lisa 30 minutes ago
Just have faith i cant even imagine what u r going thru but keeping the faith will guide i will continue to keep all of u guys in my prayers!
~stormi~ 32 minutes ago
I am so sorry Crystal. I'm Praying for you and holding out hope. I know it can be hard but Keep the Faith. (bigg Huggs)
Christy 33 minutes ago
I'm so sorry for what you're going through, Crystal. I'm praying so hard for you, & for HaLeigh to come home. You've got alot of friends out here!


Alot of people have  already left comments under her headline in just a few minutes, I feel so sad for Crystal....


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Post by: islandmonkey on August 25, 2009, 02:06:11 PM
HALEIGH BUGS MAMAHaving a very hard day, I am missing HaLeigh so bad... All I can do right now is cry... So if there is anyone out there that knows something please let me know 5 minutes ago
Mood:missin our baby 




Crystal is having a really bad day today, she just posted this headline on her my-space page, God I hope something is found out soon, this is killing her and I wish there was something more I could do.....................I wish someone would talk, -----
I know, this is just so obsurd, that Misty isn't marched down to the police station by the Cummings. And because she isn't being marched down there, leads me to think that there is more going on here.

 ::MonkeyTongue::  That's been my feeling all along, it just makes absolutely no sense that Ron married the biggest roadblock to the investigation. I swear if I was Crystal, it would take everything I had not to beat the crap out of her for not clearing up the inconsistencies and Ron for leaving her precious babies with a drugged out slore back from a 3 day binge with another man.......seriously, how can anyone defend their actions ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 25, 2009, 02:20:52 PM
HALEIGH BUGS MAMAHaving a very hard day, I am missing HaLeigh so bad... All I can do right now is cry... So if there is anyone out there that knows something please let me know 5 minutes ago
Mood:missin our baby 




Crystal is having a really bad day today, she just posted this headline on her my-space page, God I hope something is found out soon, this is killing her and I wish there was something more I could do.....................I wish someone would talk, -----
I know, this is just so obsurd, that Misty isn't marched down to the police station by the Cummings. And because she isn't being marched down there, leads me to think that there is more going on here.

 ::MonkeyTongue::  That's been my feeling all along, it just makes absolutely no sense that Ron married the biggest roadblock to the investigation. I swear if I was Crystal, it would take everything I had not to beat the crap out of her for not clearing up the inconsistencies and Ron for leaving her precious babies with a drugged out slore back from a 3 day binge with another man.......seriously, how can anyone defend their actions ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::
I haven't a clue how someone can defend their actions, for me it is so obvious. I'm glad that people have left comments for Crystal to read, maybe it will help some knowing people care.


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Post by: islandmonkey on August 25, 2009, 05:10:06 PM
Wwll it sure is quiet today  ::MonkeyCool:: I am heading out to another football practice for my son and praying that Tim will bring Haleigh home when his seach resumes or she is found before then. Godspeed Haleigh  ::MonkeyAngel:: Let this child and her family have some peace.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 25, 2009, 05:15:26 PM
Wwll it sure is quiet today  ::MonkeyCool:: I am heading out to another football practice for my son and praying that Tim will bring Haleigh home when his seach resumes or she is found before then. Godspeed Haleigh  ::MonkeyAngel:: Let this child and her family have some peace.
I sure hope so. Have a good evening  ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 25, 2009, 06:29:50 PM
wow...wow...
crazy much?  wasn't this they guy involved in an adoption??  like he gave up a kid?  if not, well..crazy much?  if so ..Oh thank you God! ::MonkeyAngel::

If the adoption thing is true, then I applaud him for that.  A child would probably be better off adopted by someone that truly wanted he or she.  And at least he or she would not be aborted,  an unwanted abused or abused, or missing, or dead child. jmo!

Excellent point!

ITA...


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Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 25, 2009, 07:45:13 PM
Update.. ::MonkeyTongue::

Cummings and Sheffield Civil Case. All Motions can be view on Putnam Civil docs..
I have only posted from the date of 8/10 to current  but you can review before 8/10 on Putnam Civil Doc.

2009-08-10 070.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE - CAROL CALDWELL FOR MOTHER 

2009-08-10 071.MOTHERS EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION FOR COUNSELING 

2009-08-10 FOR MINOR CHILD 

2009-08-17 072.NOTICE OF NON REPRESENTATION - T JERRY SNIDER FOR 

2009-08-17 RONALD CUMMINGS 

2009-08-18 073.NOTICE OF SERVICE VIA UNITED STATES MAIL DELIVERY 

2009-08-18 OF EMERGENCY MOTION TO RONALD L CUMMINGS 

2009-08-18 074.NOTICE OF HEARING/AWN FOR 08/27/09 AT 03:00 

2009-08-19 075.AMENDED NOTICE OF NON REPRESENTATION - JERRY SNYDER 

2009-08-19 076.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE-BRANDON BEARDSLEY FOR PETITIONER 

2009-08-25 077.MOTHERS MOTION TO CLOSE HEARING AND/OR HOLD IN 

2009-08-25 CHAMBERS - CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD 

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php


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Post by: islandmonkey on August 25, 2009, 08:17:53 PM
Update.. ::MonkeyTongue::

Cummings and Sheffield Civil Case. All Motions can be view on Putnam Civil docs..
I have only posted from the date of 8/10 to current  but you can review before 8/10 on Putnam Civil Doc.

2009-08-10 070.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE - CAROL CALDWELL FOR MOTHER 

2009-08-10 071.MOTHERS EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION FOR COUNSELING 

2009-08-10 FOR MINOR CHILD 

2009-08-17 072.NOTICE OF NON REPRESENTATION - T JERRY SNIDER FOR 

2009-08-17 RONALD CUMMINGS 

2009-08-18 073.NOTICE OF SERVICE VIA UNITED STATES MAIL DELIVERY 

2009-08-18 OF EMERGENCY MOTION TO RONALD L CUMMINGS 

2009-08-18 074.NOTICE OF HEARING/AWN FOR 08/27/09 AT 03:00 

2009-08-19 075.AMENDED NOTICE OF NON REPRESENTATION - JERRY SNYDER 

2009-08-19 076.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE-BRANDON BEARDSLEY FOR PETITIONER 

2009-08-25 077.MOTHERS MOTION TO CLOSE HEARING AND/OR HOLD IN 

2009-08-25 CHAMBERS - CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD 

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php


I pray she wins this hearing and Jr gets some counseling ::MonkeyAngel:: I can't imagine what he has been through ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 25, 2009, 08:41:53 PM
I sure hope he gets some counseling also  ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: strayze on August 25, 2009, 08:56:00 PM
I thought in the beginning it was said that Misty was from Michigan.  I wonder how long she has been living in FL if anyone knows.

From my notes as of Feb. 2009:

"She is originally from Michigan. She has lived in Florida for about seven years. Croslin has lived in various parts of the state, including Daytona, where she lived with her brother. - She has lived in Putnam County off and on for about a year."

A news article with the same info is at: http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090213/ARTICLES/902130293?Title=Misty-Croslin-who-was-watching-Haleigh-tells-about-herself

Hi Anna, LTNS.

 

HI Brandi,

This is what I gleaned: one of Misty's brother attended Freeland Middle School /High School, Freeland, MI.
I do not have any information if Misty attended school at this location.


This may be because there is a SO treatment center in Freeland - normally they are attached to the school in the district they are located. Hard to find a center to take the really screwed up kids . . .

I'm not good with ad hoc acronyms.  What does SO stand for?  I've already checked with previous postings.  Thank you.


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Post by: strayze on August 25, 2009, 08:57:42 PM
Got it!  It's sex offender.  Thank you.


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Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 25, 2009, 09:41:44 PM
now i want to know how you did it... ::MonkeyTease:: ::MonkeyAngel::

Right click on your avatar, then click properties http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/avatars/na7.gif and then post it as an [img]
::MonkeySlide:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 25, 2009, 11:57:50 PM
Update.. ::MonkeyTongue::

Cummings and Sheffield Civil Case. All Motions can be view on Putnam Civil docs..
I have only posted from the date of 8/10 to current  but you can review before 8/10 on Putnam Civil Doc.

2009-08-10 070.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE - CAROL CALDWELL FOR MOTHER 

2009-08-10 071.MOTHERS EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION FOR COUNSELING 

2009-08-10 FOR MINOR CHILD 

2009-08-17 072.NOTICE OF NON REPRESENTATION - T JERRY SNIDER FOR 

2009-08-17 RONALD CUMMINGS 

2009-08-18 073.NOTICE OF SERVICE VIA UNITED STATES MAIL DELIVERY 

2009-08-18 OF EMERGENCY MOTION TO RONALD L CUMMINGS 

2009-08-18 074.NOTICE OF HEARING/AWN FOR 08/27/09 AT 03:00 

2009-08-19 075.AMENDED NOTICE OF NON REPRESENTATION - JERRY SNYDER 

2009-08-19 076.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE-BRANDON BEARDSLEY FOR PETITIONER 

2009-08-25 077.MOTHERS MOTION TO CLOSE HEARING AND/OR HOLD IN 

2009-08-25 CHAMBERS - CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD 

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php


I pray she wins this hearing and Jr gets some counseling ::MonkeyAngel:: I can't imagine what he has been through ::MonkeyWaa::
IM....Im 99% sure he will, thats one of the things the court is really good about, getting a chlld that has been strained in some way counseling, they almost always make sure the chi9ld getys it so yea, Im pretty sure they will rule in Crystals favor this time.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 12:16:32 AM
Update.. ::MonkeyTongue::

Cummings and Sheffield Civil Case. All Motions can be view on Putnam Civil docs..
I have only posted from the date of 8/10 to current  but you can review before 8/10 on Putnam Civil Doc.

2009-08-10 070.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE - CAROL CALDWELL FOR MOTHER 

2009-08-10 071.MOTHERS EMERGENCY VERIFIED MOTION FOR COUNSELING 

2009-08-10 FOR MINOR CHILD 

2009-08-17 072.NOTICE OF NON REPRESENTATION - T JERRY SNIDER FOR 

2009-08-17 RONALD CUMMINGS 

2009-08-18 073.NOTICE OF SERVICE VIA UNITED STATES MAIL DELIVERY 

2009-08-18 OF EMERGENCY MOTION TO RONALD L CUMMINGS 

2009-08-18 074.NOTICE OF HEARING/AWN FOR 08/27/09 AT 03:00 

2009-08-19 075.AMENDED NOTICE OF NON REPRESENTATION - JERRY SNYDER 

2009-08-19 076.NOTICE OF APPEARANCE-BRANDON BEARDSLEY FOR PETITIONER 

2009-08-25 077.MOTHERS MOTION TO CLOSE HEARING AND/OR HOLD IN 

2009-08-25 CHAMBERS - CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD 

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php


I pray she wins this hearing and Jr gets some counseling ::MonkeyAngel:: I can't imagine what he has been through ::MonkeyWaa::
IM....Im 99% sure he will, thats one of the things the court is really good about, getting a chlld that has been strained in some way counseling, they almost always make sure the chi9ld getys it so yea, Im pretty sure they will rule in Crystals favor this time.....

I'm saying my prayers because in this case the only thing that I can expect is the unexpected ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 12:17:57 AM
HH~Do you have any insight to what happened to the search that was supposed to take place yesterdat. I didn't hear anything else about it and wondered if you had any scoop ::MonkeyBike::


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Post by: higherhopes on August 26, 2009, 12:42:07 AM
HH~Do you have any insight to what happened to the search that was supposed to take place yesterdat. I didn't hear anything else about it and wondered if you had any scoop ::MonkeyBike::
All I heard, and this is just what I heard through the grapevine and I have no link to verify, but there was a meeting with family members and I heard the search never got underway because of some kind of problem with Ron, or something he didnt agree with, I dont know , kinda weird,  I do hope they will continue to try to get it together and go ahead and search somewhere....anywhere..........some thing needs to happen, God Bless Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 12:58:27 AM
HH~Do you have any insight to what happened to the search that was supposed to take place yesterdat. I didn't hear anything else about it and wondered if you had any scoop ::MonkeyBike::
All I heard, and this is just what I heard through the grapevine and I have no link to verify, but there was a meeting with family members and I heard the search never got underway because of some kind of problem with Ron, or something he didnt agree with, I dont know , kinda weird,  I do hope they will continue to try to get it together and go ahead and search somewhere....anywhere..........some thing needs to happen, God Bless Haleigh.

Thanks......I thought you might have heard thru the grapevine. FYI, my check STILL hasn't been cashed and I sure hope it's not because Crystal thinks if she does people will think she's profiting off of HaLeigh's disappearance. I sent it for her to buy toys for Jr, Chloe etc, or to use as she sees fit. I read what she posted on her myspace about missing Haleigh and it hit me hard as my daughter had such a breakdown last night I thought I was going to have to take her to the hospital, I can't eben imagine NOT knowing and also knowing that her babies were left with an incompetent 16 yr old.............that would send me way over the top. At least we know Eli is with his heavenly Father and she surely has thoughts every now and then about the "what ifs", and IIRC Tim Miller even said he felt relief from finding Laura instead of the constant unknown. God Bless Haleigh ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 26, 2009, 01:37:03 AM
i hope all is well island.


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Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 02:02:48 AM
i hope all is well island.

Thanks mama~it's just a day by day struggle, and I was just comparing how much worse it must be for Crystal NOT knowing about her Haleighbug..........IMO, that would be so much worse ::MonkeyWaa::


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Post by: Heart on August 26, 2009, 08:09:47 AM
Good Morning All!

Good morning Angel, all!

More money for jail

By Larry Sullivan-Palatka Daily News
Published: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 4:44 PM EDT
Sheriff Jeff Hardy is asking Putnam County commissioners for 29 more employees as well as a modular building to deal with chronic jail overcrowding.

In the request, made last week in a written report by jail director Maj. John Griffin, commissioners also were told the jail has violated state jail rules since double bunking was begun more than a decade ago.

Jail employees have �persevered for several years holding together an aging facility that is in serious disrepair to house inmates far exceeding the maximum operational capacity,� the report says. �For 22 years, there have been no increases in the personnel assigned to this department.�

But Hardy�s request may have come too late for this budget year, commissioners said Monday.

more...

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/08/26/news/news01.txt


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Post by: cookie on August 26, 2009, 09:23:29 AM
morning...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 09:31:59 AM
i hope all is well island.

Thanks mama~it's just a day by day struggle, and I was just comparing how much worse it must be for Crystal NOT knowing about her Haleighbug..........IMO, that would be so much worse ::MonkeyWaa::
My prayers are with you and your daughter  ::MonkeyAngel::         HH, thanks for the info  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 09:32:23 AM
Good Morning


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 09:41:01 AM
i hope all is well island.

Thanks mama~it's just a day by day struggle, and I was just comparing how much worse it must be for Crystal NOT knowing about her Haleighbug..........IMO, that would be so much worse ::MonkeyWaa::
My prayers are with you and your daughter  ::MonkeyAngel::         HH, thanks for the info  ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks NRCG~she is starting grief counseling and is seeing a psychiatrist and pyschologist now, but prayers are always welcomed and appreciated ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 09:49:11 AM
i hope all is well island.

Thanks mama~it's just a day by day struggle, and I was just comparing how much worse it must be for Crystal NOT knowing about her Haleighbug..........IMO, that would be so much worse ::MonkeyWaa::
My prayers are with you and your daughter  ::MonkeyAngel::         HH, thanks for the info  ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks NRCG~she is starting grief counseling and is seeing a psychiatrist and pyschologist now, but prayers are always welcomed and appreciated ::MonkeyAngel::
Praying that will help her  ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: mymonkey on August 26, 2009, 10:59:27 AM
IM,

I am so sorry to hear your daughter is going thru a rough time, and as her mother I know your heart is breaking for her....it does not matter what age our children are they are still our babies...and to see them hurting makes us feel helpless,cause we always want to fix it for them and some things we just can not do,
I will pray for your family God can do what we can not.

mymonkey


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Post by: theboyzmom on August 26, 2009, 12:53:35 PM
i hope all is well island.

Thanks mama~it's just a day by day struggle, and I was just comparing how much worse it must be for Crystal NOT knowing about her Haleighbug..........IMO, that would be so much worse ::MonkeyWaa::
My prayers are with you and your daughter  ::MonkeyAngel::         HH, thanks for the info  ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks NRCG~she is starting grief counseling and is seeing a psychiatrist and pyschologist now, but prayers are always welcomed and appreciated ::MonkeyAngel::

You guys have never left my prayers. I know she may not think so now, but it will get easier with time - it took me a couple of years to be able to talk about Glen without breaking up. Time is amazing in its ability to heal our hurts. Not to say she will ever forget - it just becomes part of you - like a scar. Always there just not an open wound anymore.


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Post by: higherhopes on August 26, 2009, 01:24:23 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Haleigh-Cummings-mother-shares-poem/_6rp7PL31EGwjNtFQaqmxw.cspx




The poem that I shared here a few days ago from Crystals my-space page is being shown here!


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 01:25:13 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Haleigh-Cummings-mother-shares-poem/_6rp7PL31EGwjNtFQaqmxw.cspx




The poem that I shared here a few days ago from Crystals my-space page is being shown here!
Thanks  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 26, 2009, 01:49:32 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Haleigh-Cummings-mother-shares-poem/_6rp7PL31EGwjNtFQaqmxw.cspx




The poem that I shared here a few days ago from Crystals my-space page is being shown here!
Thanks  ::MonkeyAngel::
my God how much longer is the  silence going to go on, Misty needs to talk, she needs to go back down to the Station and clear herself, for HaLeighs sake, get her back in the publics eyes if she really dont know what happened, this is rediculous, Misty holds the key. well someone needs to make her go use it and find HaLeigh....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 01:53:13 PM
I don't think Misty is going to talk, I think she would have by now. I wonder what the disagreement was with Ron, and why there was no search, where were they going to search?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on August 26, 2009, 01:53:22 PM
A very nice lady sent me this last night. It somehow struck a chord with me.
Many of us here on this board have problems and issues right now.
We discuss these missing persons and yet, we are human too and are subject to what life deals us.
Island, my daughter lost a baby last year and she is still getting over it.
I think we do not get over these things or find closure, just find a way to go on living.
She has the support of family as your daughter does.

                                         Be At Peace
 

Do not look forward in fear to the changes of life;
Rather look to them with full hope that as they arise,
God, whose very own you are,
Will lead you safely through all things;
And when you cannot stand it,
God will carry you in His arms.
Do not fear what may happen tomorrow;
The same everlasting Father who cares for you today
will take care of you today and every day.
He will either shield you from suffering
Or will give you unfailing strength to bear it.
Be at peace and put aside all
all anxious thoughts and imagnations.

 ~ St. Frances de Sales ~
I usually leave the prayer things to others, but like I said, I felt a bit comforted last night when I read this and wanted to share with the hope that anyone else who reads this could find a bit of comfort if only for a moment or two today.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 01:56:37 PM
Thank-you Kat_Gram  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 26, 2009, 02:08:50 PM
I don't think Misty is going to talk, I think she would have by now. I wonder what the disagreement was with Ron, and why there was no search, where were they going to search?
Thank you Katgram, that was beautiful.


Im not sure where the search was going to be or if they had made it that far in the plans, I wouldreally like to know why anyone would be apposed to searching for any reason, what could it hurt?,,,,,,I wouldnt care if they wanted to search inside the nearest convenience store if they were looking for my daughter I just wouldnt care and nothing could make me not want them too, I also do not think Misty is gonna talk, well not without a good reason too, I really think they should arrest her for child endangerment, she has admitted already that she was out partyin and tired and running on no sleep, I wish they could just do that on those admissions alone and just see what would happen then....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 02:15:29 PM
I don't think Misty is going to talk, I think she would have by now. I wonder what the disagreement was with Ron, and why there was no search, where were they going to search?
Thank you Katgram, that was beautiful.


Im not sure where the search was going to be or if they had made it that far in the plans, I wouldreally like to know why anyone would be apposed to searching for any reason, what could it hurt?,,,,,,I wouldnt care if they wanted to search inside the nearest convenience store if they were looking for my daughter I just wouldnt care and nothing could make me not want them too, I also do not think Misty is gonna talk, well not without a good reason too, I really think they should arrest her for child endangerment, she has admitted already that she was out partyin and tired and running on no sleep, I wish they could just do that on those admissions alone and just see what would happen then....
I don't understand this either, child endangerment you would think could be used against her, but I think it was child endangerment for Ron to let Misty watch his two small children. And I also would take any help I could get to help in searching if it was my child.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 26, 2009, 02:21:33 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing100.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 02:25:46 PM
Beautiful Brandi  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 03:51:31 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=143952&catid=3                ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek:: Oh boy


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 03:59:28 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=143952&catid=3                ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek:: Oh boy

WOW......Not like we didn't already know this, but DAMN!!!!! ::MonkeyDevil2::

Report: Misty Cummings 'Miserably Failed' Polygraph
 Dave Wax     Created: 8/26/2009 2:56:32 PM    Updated: 8/26/2009 3:21:10 PM
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PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- First Coast News has learned that Misty Cummings has failed three recent tests related to the search for her missing five-year-old step-daughter.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office has said as recently as two weeks ago that Misty's account of the night in February when the then-5-year-old girl disappeared is "sketchy," and that she "continues to hold important answers."

Today, First Coast News spoke with Tim Miller, from Texas Equusearch, a group that has already led a major search effort to find Haleigh.

Miller says Haleigh's family contacted him to help in the case, and that Misty told him she wanted a chance to clear her name.

She asked about another polygraph, hypnosis and voice analysis.

Miller says Misty wanted to take the tests even though her attorney advised her not to.

In a signed letter, Misty stated her attorney, Robert Field, told her not to take the polygraph, but she wanted to anyway to clear her name.

Miller says Misty agreed to take hypnosis and voice analysis as well.

Miller says she "failed miserably" the polygraph examination, and "did not cooperate" with the hypnosis.

Misty's attorney, Robert Fields, spoke to First Coast News, saying he believes Misty was pressured into taking the tests.

Sheriff's investigators have interviewed Misty many times, and continue to say her story is full of "inconsistencies."

Ronald Cummings spoke with First Coast News via phone only long enough to say he didn't have anything to say.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office says they have been made aware of the tests and the results, and are surprised she put herself through them.

Haleigh's sixth birthday was earlier this month.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 26, 2009, 04:01:01 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=143952&catid=3                ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek:: Oh boy

PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- First Coast News has learned that Misty Cummings has failed three recent tests related to the search for her missing five-year-old step-daughter.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office has said as recently as two weeks ago that Misty's account of the night in February when the then-5-year-old girl disappeared is "sketchy," and that she "continues to hold important answers."

Today, First Coast News spoke with Tim Miller, from Texas Equusearch, a group that has already led a major search effort to find Haleigh.

Miller says Haleigh's family contacted him to help in the case, and that Misty told him she wanted a chance to clear her name.

She asked about another polygraph, hypnosis and voice analysis.

Miller says Misty wanted to take the tests even though her attorney advised her not to.

In a signed letter, Misty stated her attorney, Robert Field, told her not to take the polygraph, but she wanted to anyway to clear her name.

Miller says Misty agreed to take hypnosis and voice analysis as well.

Miller says she "failed miserably" the polygraph examination, and "did not cooperate" with the hypnosis

I just dont get the Cumming's family supporting Misty.... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 04:01:59 PM
This is very damning, and thanks for posting the article, my computer skills are not good, and can bring a link, but for some reason can't post the article at the same time  ::MonkeyConfused::  Now what is going to happen, the family still standing behind Misty?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 04:04:10 PM
I don't know about y'all, but I say let's waterboard her  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 04:06:03 PM
This is very damning, and thanks for posting the article, my computer skills are not good, and can bring a link, but for some reason can't post the article at the same time  ::MonkeyConfused::  Now what is going to happen, the family still standing behind Misty?

YW~thanks for posting the link.......about the family, I'll give you two guesses (but only one counts)  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 04:14:26 PM
 ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::

I wonder if this was why there search was called off this week.....................hmm, maybe ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 04:16:40 PM
http://download.gannett.edgesuite.net/wtlv/docs/mistycummingspretestrelease8_26_09.pdf



Look at page 3 of this document (it's truly sad  ::MonkeyNoNo:: )


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 04:22:30 PM
This is very damning, and thanks for posting the article, my computer skills are not good, and can bring a link, but for some reason can't post the article at the same time  ::MonkeyConfused::  Now what is going to happen, the family still standing behind Misty?

YW~thanks for posting the link.......about the family, I'll give you two guesses (but only one counts)  ::MonkeyWink::
Now with this knowledge, though I'm sure the family knew it before today, if they continue like they have been, then there is no doubt in my mind that people are protecting each other. It will be interesting to see what path is now taken......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 26, 2009, 04:22:32 PM
::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::

I wonder if this was why there search was called off this week.....................hmm, maybe ::MonkeyTongue::

Somehow I missed everything about a search scheduled for this week.

Who was going to search this week? And where were they going to search?

TIA.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 26, 2009, 04:22:59 PM
::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::

I wonder if this was why there search was called off this week.....................hmm, maybe ::MonkeyTongue::
I dont know, but I do know one thing, how much more does Misty have to do to prove she is accountable for what happened to HaLeigh before the LE arrest's her butt, I say just go pick her up, keep her for awhile and lets see what happens then,,,,,,,its better than nothing.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 04:25:34 PM
http://download.gannett.edgesuite.net/wtlv/docs/mistycummingspretestrelease8_26_09.pdf



Look at page 3 of this document (it's truly sad  ::MonkeyNoNo:: )
  ::MonkeyEek:: She has the skills of a young child in grade school, what a shame.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 04:27:13 PM
::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::

I wonder if this was why there search was called off this week.....................hmm, maybe ::MonkeyTongue::
I dont know, but I do know one thing, how much more does Misty have to do to prove she is accountable for what happened to HaLeigh before the LE arrest's her butt, I say just go pick her up, keep her for awhile and lets see what happens then,,,,,,,its better than nothing.

I'm with you on that, and if she's covering (which is MO) then let her sit there and think about it for a bit. No matter what Jr needs to be outta there like yesterday, Ron picked an irresponsible 16 yr old drugged out ****** to watch over the most precious assets and for that he is accountable no matter what. ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 26, 2009, 04:52:04 PM
http://download.gannett.edgesuite.net/wtlv/docs/mistycummingspretestrelease8_26_09.pdf



Look at page 3 of this document (it's truly sad  ::MonkeyNoNo:: )

I made a copy of pages 2 and 3. The first page was too light to read well or copy:

Page 2:
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image186.png)

Page 3:
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image184.png)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 04:54:46 PM
http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/26/police-misty-cummings-holds-the-key-to-haleigh-cummings-dissapearance/  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 04:56:06 PM
::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::

I wonder if this was why there search was called off this week.....................hmm, maybe ::MonkeyTongue::

Somehow I missed everything about a search scheduled for this week.

Who was going to search this week? And where were they going to search?

TIA.

Sorry Brandi~at work and was away real briefly. Wayanne Krueger (sp?) was supposed to search and IIRC it was in the Satsuma area.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 04:56:31 PM
The voice analysis was perhaps the most revealing and according to results “It appears Misty Cummings knows what happened and was directly involved in the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings”.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 26, 2009, 04:59:28 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=143952&catid=3                ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek:: Oh boy

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image191.png)
This picture is on that page with the article. I have no idea when it was taken, but it almost looks like G, Grandma Sykes is leading Misty into the polygraph testing place, like, "You are going to take it and you are going to take it now!" Of course, it could be from any day or situation. That thought just struck me when I saw it.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 26, 2009, 05:10:52 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=143952&catid=3                ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek:: Oh boy

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image191.png)
This picture is on that page with the article. I have no idea when it was taken, but it almost looks like G, Grandma Sykes is leading Misty into the polygraph testing place, like, "You are going to take it and you are going to take it now!" Of course, it could be from any day or situation. That thought just struck me when I saw it.


This picture was taken when she and GGsykes went to the jail to bail Ron out after his desagreement with the Croslins...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 26, 2009, 05:11:03 PM
::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::

I wonder if this was why there search was called off this week.....................hmm, maybe ::MonkeyTongue::

Somehow I missed everything about a search scheduled for this week.

Who was going to search this week? And where were they going to search?

TIA.

Sorry Brandi~at work and was away real briefly. Wayanne Krueger (sp?) was supposed to search and IIRC it was in the Satsuma area.

Thanks. Where did you hear about her searching? I can't find any info on it. Her twitter page does not mention a search for today. http://twitter.com/wayannekruger

And isn't she from out of state?

I am confuzzled.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 26, 2009, 05:13:37 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=143952&catid=3                ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek:: Oh boy

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image191.png)
This picture is on that page with the article. I have no idea when it was taken, but it almost looks like G, Grandma Sykes is leading Misty into the polygraph testing place, like, "You are going to take it and you are going to take it now!" Of course, it could be from any day or situation. That thought just struck me when I saw it.



Brandi, I believe the picture was taken August 6, 2009 or at least that is the date on the url.   

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/genthumb.ashx?e=3&h=240&w=320&i=/assetpool/images/090806024139_080609_misty1.JPG


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 26, 2009, 05:15:09 PM
The voice analysis was perhaps the most revealing and according to results “It appears Misty Cummings knows what happened and was directly involved in the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings”.
This is a important part of that article also IMO'''

particularly interested in her version of the timeline the night of February 9th between 8:00pm and 3:00am. She claims she put Haleigh down at 8:00pm and went to sleep herself at 10:00 and awoke abruptly at 3:00 to find Haleigh gone. Now even her husband Ronald isn’t buying that story “she never went to bed that night” he said “the bed was made” Police confirmed Ronald’s story. As the investigation closes in on her and investigators focus on


I think Ronald has to know or suspect Misty is lying about more than just going to bed, I think just maybe with this 3rd test thinmgs are about to happen.....  If I was Misty I would just asked to be locked up before Ronald or someone in Haleighs family decides to tak matters into their own hands....MOO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 26, 2009, 05:15:25 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=143952&catid=3                ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek:: Oh boy

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image191.png)
This picture is on that page with the article. I have no idea when it was taken, but it almost looks like G, Grandma Sykes is leading Misty into the polygraph testing place, like, "You are going to take it and you are going to take it now!" Of course, it could be from any day or situation. That thought just struck me when I saw it.


This picture was taken when she and GGsykes went to the jail to bail Ron out after his desagreement with the Croslins...

G. Grandma Sykes sure is walking with a purpose then, eh? ;-)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 26, 2009, 05:17:54 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=143952&catid=3                ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek:: Oh boy

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image191.png)
This picture is on that page with the article. I have no idea when it was taken, but it almost looks like G, Grandma Sykes is leading Misty into the polygraph testing place, like, "You are going to take it and you are going to take it now!" Of course, it could be from any day or situation. That thought just struck me when I saw it.



Brandi, I believe the picture was taken August 6, 2009 or at least that is the date on the url.   

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/genthumb.ashx?e=3&h=240&w=320&i=/assetpool/images/090806024139_080609_misty1.JPG

Thanks Heart. Good catch! I guess I should "read" my URLs better ;-)

Actually, I seldom look twice at them. Good to know.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 05:18:55 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=143952&catid=3                ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek:: Oh boy

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image191.png)
This picture is on that page with the article. I have no idea when it was taken, but it almost looks like G, Grandma Sykes is leading Misty into the polygraph testing place, like, "You are going to take it and you are going to take it now!" Of course, it could be from any day or situation. That thought just struck me when I saw it.


I would not want to cross grandma Sykes  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 05:21:15 PM
The voice analysis was perhaps the most revealing and according to results “It appears Misty Cummings knows what happened and was directly involved in the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings”.
This is a important part of that article also IMO'''

particularly interested in her version of the timeline the night of February 9th between 8:00pm and 3:00am. She claims she put Haleigh down at 8:00pm and went to sleep herself at 10:00 and awoke abruptly at 3:00 to find Haleigh gone. Now even her husband Ronald isn’t buying that story “she never went to bed that night” he said “the bed was made” Police confirmed Ronald’s story. As the investigation closes in on her and investigators focus on


I think Ronald has to know or suspect Misty is lying about more than just going to bed, I think just maybe with this 3rd test thinmgs are about to happen.....  If I was Misty I would just asked to be locked up before Ronald or someone in Haleighs family decides to tak matters into their own hands....MOO
If I were Misty, I would run for the hills  ::MonkeyEek:: I hope Ron or his family take matters into their own hands, that could be very ugly.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 26, 2009, 05:24:48 PM
http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/26/police-misty-cummings-holds-the-key-to-haleigh-cummings-dissapearance/  ::MonkeyEek::

This is an interesting blog. I don't believe I have ever read this author before.

So TES paid for the testing?
Quote
Independent from law enforcement, Miller arranged for three (3) separate experts to arrive into Florida to conduct the test, the costs paid for by Texas Equusearch.

Also from that blog:
The results of the taped interviews according to the experts who conducted them and the police who reviewed them are great for the investigation but not great for Misty. She “miserably failed” the polygraph test. This is the fourth time she has failed a polygraph.  During the hypnosis, she appeared uncooperative and told yet another version of the story that was inconsistent with previous versions. The voice analysis was perhaps the most revealing and according to results “It appears Misty Cummings knows what happened and was directly involved in the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings”. Upon their initial viewing of these tapes, investigators uncovered several inconsistencies in Misty’s story. They are particularly interested in her version of the timeline the night of February 9th between 8:00pm and 3:00am. She claims she put Haleigh down at 8:00pm and went to sleep herself at 10:00 and awoke abruptly at 3:00 to find Haleigh gone. Now even her husband Ronald isn’t buying that story “she never went to bed that night” he said “the bed was made” Police confirmed Ronald’s story. As the investigation closes in on her and investigators focus on those few hours the evening of Feb.9th into early morning Feb.10th that Misty can’t account for. One thing is clear; the only thing that’s consistent about Misty Cummings story is her inconsistencies.

Thanks for showing this to us, No Rose.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 26, 2009, 05:25:27 PM
The voice analysis was perhaps the most revealing and according to results “It appears Misty Cummings knows what happened and was directly involved in the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings”.
This is a important part of that article also IMO'''

particularly interested in her version of the timeline the night of February 9th between 8:00pm and 3:00am. She claims she put Haleigh down at 8:00pm and went to sleep herself at 10:00 and awoke abruptly at 3:00 to find Haleigh gone. Now even her husband Ronald isn’t buying that story “she never went to bed that night” he said “the bed was made” Police confirmed Ronald’s story. As the investigation closes in on her and investigators focus on


I think Ronald has to know or suspect Misty is lying about more than just going to bed, I think just maybe with this 3rd test thinmgs are about to happen.....  If I was Misty I would just asked to be locked up before Ronald or someone in Haleighs family decides to tak matters into their own hands....MOO
If I were Misty, I would run for the hills  ::MonkeyEek:: I hope Ron or his family take matters into their own hands, that could be very ugly.
yes it could, I do believe it would be in her best interest to just ask to be locked up somewhere safe before anything else comes out about her and her lies, something just has to come out about this soon...IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 05:32:15 PM
 This is the fourth time she has failed a polygraph.  ::MonkeyEek:: During the hypnosis, she appeared uncooperative and told yet another version of the story that was inconsistent with previous versions.     How do you appear uncooperative during hypnosis? Stupid question, but I honestly don't understand  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 26, 2009, 05:34:30 PM
This is the fourth time she has failed a polygraph.  ::MonkeyEek:: During the hypnosis, she appeared uncooperative and told yet another version of the story that was inconsistent with previous versions.     How do you appear uncooperative during hypnosis? Stupid question, but I honestly don't understand  ::MonkeyConfused::
I think they probably mean she wouldnt relax or shut her mind down so they could get her to go under because she was scared about what she might really reveal......JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 26, 2009, 05:34:47 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=143952&catid=3                ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek:: Oh boy

Oh yeah.   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 26, 2009, 05:36:05 PM
I don't know about y'all, but I say let's waterboard her  ::MonkeyJnBox::

I'm with you.   ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 05:36:50 PM
This is the fourth time she has failed a polygraph.  ::MonkeyEek:: During the hypnosis, she appeared uncooperative and told yet another version of the story that was inconsistent with previous versions.     How do you appear uncooperative during hypnosis? Stupid question, but I honestly don't understand  ::MonkeyConfused::
I think they probably mean she wouldnt relax or shut her mind down so they could get her to go under because she was scared about what she might really reveal......JMO
Thanks, I didn't realize that, I wouldn't be able to relax or shut my mind off either  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 26, 2009, 05:44:47 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=143952&catid=3                ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek:: Oh boy

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image191.png)
This picture is on that page with the article. I have no idea when it was taken, but it almost looks like G, Grandma Sykes is leading Misty into the polygraph testing place, like, "You are going to take it and you are going to take it now!" Of course, it could be from any day or situation. That thought just struck me when I saw it.


This picture was taken when she and GGsykes went to the jail to bail Ron out after his desagreement with the Croslins...

That's right Higherhopes.I remember that shirt.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 05:47:54 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=143962&catid=3                       Misty's polygraph questions  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 06:02:05 PM
http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/18/haleigh-cummings-case-what-we-suspected-all-along/                Another interesting update....stay tuned.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 06:21:42 PM
The voice analysis was perhaps the most revealing and according to results “It appears Misty Cummings knows what happened and was directly involved in the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings”.
This is a important part of that article also IMO'''

particularly interested in her version of the timeline the night of February 9th between 8:00pm and 3:00am. She claims she put Haleigh down at 8:00pm and went to sleep herself at 10:00 and awoke abruptly at 3:00 to find Haleigh gone. Now even her husband Ronald isn’t buying that story “she never went to bed that night” he said “the bed was made” Police confirmed Ronald’s story. As the investigation closes in on her and investigators focus on


I think Ronald has to know or suspect Misty is lying about more than just going to bed, I think just maybe with this 3rd test thinmgs are about to happen.....  If I was Misty I would just asked to be locked up before Ronald or someone in Haleighs family decides to tak matters into their own hands....MOO
If I were Misty, I would run for the hills  ::MonkeyEek:: I hope Ron or his family take matters into their own hands, that could be very ugly.
yes it could, I do believe it would be in her best interest to just ask to be locked up somewhere safe before anything else comes out about her and her lies, something just has to come out about this soon...IMO

Question~If the bed wasn't made, where did Jr sleep...........as per Misty and Ron Jr was in that bed??????? ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 06:25:02 PM
Not only where did Jr sleep, but is Ron coming to the conclusion the bed was never slept in right now, didn't he figure that out six months ago?


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Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 06:25:06 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=143962&catid=3                       Misty's polygraph questions  ::MonkeyEek::

Thanks NRCG  ::MonkeyGavel::

JACKSONVILLE, FL -- First Coast News has learned what questions were asked of Misty Cummings in her recent polygraph test, and how she replied. The results indicated she failed the test.

Speaking with First Coast News by phone Wednesday afternoon, Tim Miller with Texas Equusearch told us the details of the polygraph interview.

Here are the four questions Miller says were asked to Misty on August 19, followed by her answer and the polygraph result:

Question: Did you intentionally withhold any information regarding Haleigh's disappearance?
Answer: No
Result: 99% deception

Question: Do you know what happened to Haleigh?
Answer: No
Result: 99% deception

Question: Do you know where Haleigh is now?
Answer: No
Result: 95% Deception

Question: Do you know who took Haleigh?
Answer: No
Result: 42% deception

Miller says he was confused by the 42% result, but a polygraph expert who spoke with Miller says that could mean there were multiple people involved, and that something may have happened inside the house that prevented Misty from knowing which person took her away.

Miller goes on to say Misty cried at the results, then stormed out of the room. That's when he says he spoke with Misty, who begged him to let her undergo hypnosis and voice analysis.



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Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 06:26:01 PM
Not only where did Jr sleep, but is Ron coming to the conclusion the bed was never slept in right now, didn't he figure that out six months ago?

I was wondering that myself on the way home from work  ::MonkeyConfused::


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 06:32:46 PM
Not only where did Jr sleep, but is Ron coming to the conclusion the bed was never slept in right now, didn't he figure that out six months ago?

I was wondering that myself on the way home from work  ::MonkeyConfused::
That makes no sense, while he was running around the home looking for Haleigh he must have seen the bed was made  ::MonkeyConfused::


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Post by: higherhopes on August 26, 2009, 06:33:04 PM
Not only where did Jr sleep, but is Ron coming to the conclusion the bed was never slept in right now, didn't he figure that out six months ago?
Im sure, he did know it hadnt been slept in even then, and by not slept in, maybe Jr. was just laying on top of the covers covered with one of the  blankets Misty supposingly washed and Ronald could tell that no one else had slept in the rest of the bed, and now, maybe Ronald did know that Misty was hiding msomething and he was mjust marrying her to keep her close, but he is still at fault for ever allowing this girl to stay with those precious children....IMO


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 06:38:15 PM
Not only where did Jr sleep, but is Ron coming to the conclusion the bed was never slept in right now, didn't he figure that out six months ago?
Im sure, he did know it hadnt been slept in even then, and by not slept in, maybe Jr. was just laying on top of the covers covered with one of the  blankets Misty supposingly washed and Ronald could tell that no one else had slept in the rest of the bed, and now, maybe Ronald did know that Misty was hiding msomething and he was mjust marrying her to keep her close, but he is still at fault for ever allowing this girl to stay with those precious children....IMO
I know it was mentioned I think by Cobra, that Ron married Misty to keep her close, but my problem with that is why did it take all this time for this to come out, and Ron didn't do much of anything it seems in six months to make Misty tell him anything, was he going to wait forever for something to come out of Misty?


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Post by: higherhopes on August 26, 2009, 06:39:09 PM
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m8d26-Reports-say-Misty-failed-several-recent-tests-regarding-disappearance-of-HaLeigh-Cummings


and another one...................something is about to happen.....JMO


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Post by: klaasend on August 26, 2009, 06:41:39 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/breaking/news-article.aspx?storyid=143952&catid=17

Report: Misty Cummings 'Miserably Failed' Polygraph
 Dave Wax     31 mins ago

PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- First Coast News has learned that Misty Cummings has failed three recent tests related to the search for her missing five-year-old step-daughter.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office has said as recently as two weeks ago that Misty's account of the night in February when the then-5-year-old girl disappeared is "sketchy," and that she "continues to hold important answers."

Today, First Coast News spoke with Tim Miller, from Texas Equusearch, a group that has already led a major search effort to find Haleigh.

Miller says Haleigh's family contacted him to help in the case, and that Misty told him she wanted a chance to clear her name.

She asked about another polygraph, hypnosis and voice analysis.

Miller says Misty wanted to take the tests even though her attorney advised her not to.

In a signed letter, Misty stated her attorney, Robert Fields, told her not to take the polygraph, but she wanted to anyway to clear her name.

CLICK HERE TO READ MISTY'S LETTER AND DOCUMENTATION

Miller says Misty agreed to undergo hypnosis and voice analysis as well.

Miller says she "failed miserably" the polygraph examination, and "did not cooperate" with the hypnosis.

CLICK HERE TO READ ABOUT THE POLYGRAPH, INCLUDING THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS

Misty's attorney spoke to First Coast News, saying he believes Misty was pressured into taking the tests.

Sheriff's investigators have interviewed Misty many times, and continue to say her story is full of "inconsistencies."

Ronald Cummings spoke with First Coast News via phone only long enough to say he didn't have anything to say.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office says they have been made aware of the tests and the results, and are surprised she put herself through them.

Haleigh's sixth birthday was earlier this month.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/MistyPolygraph081709.jpg)



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Post by: higherhopes on August 26, 2009, 06:41:46 PM
Not only where did Jr sleep, but is Ron coming to the conclusion the bed was never slept in right now, didn't he figure that out six months ago?
Im sure, he did know it hadnt been slept in even then, and by not slept in, maybe Jr. was just laying on top of the covers covered with one of the  blankets Misty supposingly washed and Ronald could tell that no one else had slept in the rest of the bed, and now, maybe Ronald did know that Misty was hiding msomething and he was mjust marrying her to keep her close, but he is still at fault for ever allowing this girl to stay with those precious children....IMO
I know it was mentioned I think by Cobra, that Ron married Misty to keep her close, but my problem with that is why did it take all this time for this to come out, and Ron didn't do much of anything it seems in six months to make Misty tell him anything, was he going to wait forever for something to come out of Misty?
Well, maybe he was trying to get her to tell him who else was responsible or was at that house that night, I dont know, I only know that crap is about to hit the fan with all this coming out at this time.....IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on August 26, 2009, 06:51:34 PM
I don't know about y'all, but I say let's waterboard her  ::MonkeyJnBox::
  ::MonkeyDevil:: I'm all for that Island!!! There are some other characters in Florida that need to be waterboarded as well.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


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Post by: cecilita on August 26, 2009, 06:52:33 PM
amaybe someone else was babysitting the kids ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 06:52:50 PM
To me this is another example of Tim Miller doing what is right for a child, God bless him for getting her to take one (I expect he knew what the test would show anyway), but it certainly puts tremendous pressure on that entire side of the family to speak the truth and wuit covering up. If there were only more Tim Millers in this world it would be a better place ::MonkeyCheer2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 06:54:55 PM
I don't know about y'all, but I say let's waterboard her  ::MonkeyJnBox::
  ::MonkeyDevil:: I'm all for that Island!!! There are some other characters in Florida that need to be waterboarded as well.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

ITA and volunteer ::MonkeyDevil2::

On another note, I hope like he77 LE is all over that house they are in because IMO Jr isn't safe now (not that I thought he ever was), but they need to get him out ASAP.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 06:58:06 PM
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m8d26-Reports-say-Misty-failed-several-recent-tests-regarding-disappearance-of-HaLeigh-Cummings


and another one...................something is about to happen.....JMO
Wow, another article, you can feel something is about to happen.        First Coast attempted to speak with HaLeigh’s father and Misty’s husband, Ronald, but he told the them he had nothing to say.  ::MonkeyRoll::


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Post by: Brandi on August 26, 2009, 06:58:06 PM
amaybe someone else was babysitting the kids ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hi cecilita!

I have always thought that Misty was NOT at home the whole night that Haleigh disappeared. It's possible that someone else was "watching" them or that no one was watching them.




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Post by: Brandi on August 26, 2009, 07:07:00 PM
http://www.news4jax.com/news/20570625/detail.html

Equusearch: Misty Cummings Fails Lie Detector Test
Equusearch Group Director Says Misty Failed 'Miserably'

POSTED: Wednesday, August 26, 2009
UPDATED: 6:54 pm EDT August 26, 2009
Haleigh Cummings pink ribbon graphic
PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- Channel 4 has learned that Misty Cummings, the last person to see the missing Satsuma girl, Haleigh Cummings, before she disappeared, has failed some lie detector tests.

Six months ago when Haleigh went missing, a group called Equusearch came to town from Texas to help search for her.

The director of that group, Tim Miller, said Misty called him earlier this month asking for their help and asking them to continue their search for the girl.

Miller said Misty asked them to help her clear her name.

So, Equusearch arranged for her to take a lie detector test. The test was given in Orlando just last week.

Miller said Misty failed "miserably."

In fact, he said she failed more than once.

There were three parts to the test, a written portion and a voice analysis. She failed both.

There was also a hypnotism session, but Miller said it didn't produce any results because Misty was fighting being put under.

Misty's attorney in Putnam County said he told her not to take the tests but she felt pressured to because she wanted Equusearch's help in the search for her step daughter.

Equusearch said it did not pressure Misty into taking any lie detector test.

Channel 4 was told when investigators with the Putnam County Sheriff's Office heard about the new polygraphs, they subpoenaed the results and now have them.


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Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 07:10:23 PM
http://www.news4jax.com/news/20570625/detail.html

Equusearch: Misty Cummings Fails Lie Detector Test
Equusearch Group Director Says Misty Failed 'Miserably'

POSTED: Wednesday, August 26, 2009
UPDATED: 6:54 pm EDT August 26, 2009
Haleigh Cummings pink ribbon graphic
PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- Channel 4 has learned that Misty Cummings, the last person to see the missing Satsuma girl, Haleigh Cummings, before she disappeared, has failed some lie detector tests.

Six months ago when Haleigh went missing, a group called Equusearch came to town from Texas to help search for her.

The director of that group, Tim Miller, said Misty called him earlier this month asking for their help and asking them to continue their search for the girl.

Miller said Misty asked them to help her clear her name.

So, Equusearch arranged for her to take a lie detector test. The test was given in Orlando just last week.

Miller said Misty failed "miserably."

In fact, he said she failed more than once.

There were three parts to the test, a written portion and a voice analysis. She failed both.

There was also a hypnotism session, but Miller said it didn't produce any results because Misty was fighting being put under.

Misty's attorney in Putnam County said he told her not to take the tests but she felt pressured to because she wanted Equusearch's help in the search for her step daughter.

Equusearch said it did not pressure Misty into taking any lie detector test.

Channel 4 was told when investigators with the Putnam County Sheriff's Office heard about the new polygraphs, they subpoenaed the results and now have them.

I just saw that too, but am wondering if it's a misprint due to what MN has stated.....who knows anymore ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 26, 2009, 07:11:20 PM
amaybe someone else was babysitting the kids ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hi cecilita!

I have always thought that Misty was NOT at home the whole night that Haleigh disappeared. It's possible that someone else was "watching" them or that no one was watching them.




Hi brandi...

I was thinking did Misty take Haligh and Jr somewhere that evening and thats why the bed was made..... ::MonkeyEek::


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Post by: joesamas mama on August 26, 2009, 07:12:58 PM
I don't know about y'all, but I say let's waterboard her  ::MonkeyJnBox::
  ::MonkeyDevil:: I'm all for that Island!!! There are some other characters in Florida that need to be waterboarded as well.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

ITA and volunteer ::MonkeyDevil2::

On another note, I hope like he77 LE is all over that house they are in because IMO Jr isn't safe now (not that I thought he ever was), but they need to get him out ASAP.
ITA Island.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 26, 2009, 07:14:39 PM
I don't know about y'all, but I say let's waterboard her  ::MonkeyJnBox::
  ::MonkeyDevil:: I'm all for that Island!!! There are some other characters in Florida that need to be waterboarded as well.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

ITA and volunteer ::MonkeyDevil2::

On another note, I hope like he77 LE is all over that house they are in because IMO Jr isn't safe now (not that I thought he ever was), but they need to get him out ASAP.
ITA Island.

Count me in.. Jr needs to be protected...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 07:16:21 PM
I don't know about y'all, but I say let's waterboard her  ::MonkeyJnBox::
  ::MonkeyDevil:: I'm all for that Island!!! There are some other characters in Florida that need to be waterboarded as well.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

ITA and volunteer ::MonkeyDevil2::

On another note, I hope like he77 LE is all over that house they are in because IMO Jr isn't safe now (not that I thought he ever was), but they need to get him out ASAP.
ITA Island.

Count me in.. Jr needs to be protected...
::MonkeyEek::
Especially when you add in the extra stressors that Ron's court case is tomorrow ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 07:22:08 PM
Ron's court case tomorrow, chit hitting the fan with Misty, and Jr is stuck in the middle of all this  ::MonkeyMad:: If Misty did take the kids somewhere else that night, wouldn't Jr know this and tell they were somewhere else?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 07:27:55 PM
Ron's court case tomorrow, chit hitting the fan with Misty, and Jr is stuck in the middle of all this  ::MonkeyMad:: If Misty did take the kids somewhere else that night, wouldn't Jr know this and tell they were somewhere else?

Yes I think he would............remember my son was just 3 when he became a "victim", and he make utterances at the time and then as time went by he would tell me bits and pieces more as time went by, and he was interviewed by everybody including a guardian ad litem as appointed by the courts and their reports all show that he was telling the truth. People too often discount what young children say thinking they can't remember or don't know what they are talking about, but once they are a victim of a crime or a witness, they NEVER forget  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 26, 2009, 07:30:36 PM
Ron's court case tomorrow, chit hitting the fan with Misty, and Jr is stuck in the middle of all this  ::MonkeyMad:: If Misty did take the kids somewhere else that night, wouldn't Jr know this and tell they were somewhere else?

I just dont know but it did cross my mine.. The counciling Jr needs is so important for him deal with Haleigh missing and what ever else was happening in that home..JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Tams on August 26, 2009, 07:32:27 PM
To me this is another example of Tim Miller doing what is right for a child, God bless him for getting her to take one (I expect he knew what the test would show anyway), but it certainly puts tremendous pressure on that entire side of the family to speak the truth and wuit covering up. If there were only more Tim Millers in this world it would be a better place ::MonkeyCheer2::

I am not a religious person at all - but to your wise and kind words about Tim Miller I found myself saying "Amen!", IslandMonkey. The world surely could indeed use more compassionate souls such as Tim.  He appears to have no other motive than a desire to help find a child.

And - Hello monkey friends!

. . . Speaking of compassion - I have to say that seeing Misty's written statement and hearing that she has stated that she doesn't feel she has any future caused me for the first time to feel sorry for her in a way . . . NOT making excuses for her, still feel she is involved & needs to be FORCED to talk, even if it means waterboarding. The truth needs to come out about Haleigh. Period.

Misty has just clearly seen and partaken of more sleazy and illegal things than anyone should - especially at such a young age. And she needs to be held accountable for them, no question, no excuses. But a part of me also feels sad that no one seems to have stood up for or protected her in her life, sending this uneducated damaged soul out into the world. Her parents/family should be ashamed. And to whomever said it earlier - YES, somewhere, somehow, this cycle needs to be broken.

Do you suppose that maybe the Cummings family is blinded by such compassion for Misty's difficult earlier life, and are so determined to be her new, loving family, that this is why they have thus far blindly supported her? They feel like heros for taking her in? She has perhaps captured their hearts and clouded their judgement by telling them that they are the first family to ever really love her?

Just thinking out loud, trying to understand it all . . . perhaps I am too naive, and am thinking with my heart too much. Wouldn't be the first time - LOL.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 07:38:57 PM
Tams, I feel bad when someone has had a crappy life, I just don't know what to think about this anymore. I really think Misty latched onto Ron for a roof over her head, she was probably searching for somekind of normalcy, and look at this entire mess.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: All very sad.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Tams on August 26, 2009, 07:42:29 PM
Tams, I feel bad when someone has had a crappy life, I just don't know what to think about this anymore. I really think Misty latched onto Ron for a roof over her head, she was probably searching for somekind of normalcy, and look at this entire mess.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: All very sad.

Hi Rosie -

Yes, well said. The whole thing is terribly terribly sad.

And now poor little guy Jr. . . I am so afraid for him. I truly am.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 07:43:11 PM
To me this is another example of Tim Miller doing what is right for a child, God bless him for getting her to take one (I expect he knew what the test would show anyway), but it certainly puts tremendous pressure on that entire side of the family to speak the truth and wuit covering up. If there were only more Tim Millers in this world it would be a better place ::MonkeyCheer2::

I am not a religious person at all - but to your wise and kind words about Tim Miller I found myself saying "Amen!", IslandMonkey. The world surely could indeed use more compassionate souls such as Tim.  He appears to have no other motive than a desire to help find a child.

And - Hello monkey friends!

. . . Speaking of compassion - I have to say that seeing Misty's written statement and hearing that she has stated that she doesn't feel she has any future caused me for the first time to feel sorry for her in a way . . . NOT making excuses for her, still feel she is involved & needs to be FORCED to talk, even if it means waterboarding. The truth needs to come out about Haleigh. Period.

Misty has just clearly seen and partaken of more sleazy and illegal things than anyone should - especially at such a young age. And she needs to be held accountable for them, no question, no excuses. But a part of me also feels sad that no one seems to have stood up for or protected her in her life, sending this uneducated damaged soul out into the world. Her parents/family should be ashamed. And to whomever said it earlier - YES, somewhere, somehow, this cycle needs to be broken.

Do you suppose that maybe the Cummings family is blinded by such compassion for Misty's difficult earlier life, and are so determined to be her new, loving family, that this is why they have thus far blindly supported her? They feel like heros for taking her in? She has perhaps captured their hearts and clouded their judgement by telling them that they are the first family to ever really love her?

Just thinking out loud, trying to understand it all . . . perhaps I am too naive, and am thinking with my heart too much. Wouldn't be the first time - LOL.

Thanks Tams...........when I read page 3 of that document and read what she said about her life I do feel she had it hard and obviously her parents failed her (seriously, I almost cried when I saw her spelling and writing), but I agree she needs to spill all and I mean everything- no covering, no exceptions period.

I thinks it's great you think with your heart and wish I could better, but I've become a cynic and still have to wonder if the Cummings are keeping her close to protect their own, but I can always hope and pray that what you stated is correct.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 07:45:27 PM
Tams, I feel bad when someone has had a crappy life, I just don't know what to think about this anymore. I really think Misty latched onto Ron for a roof over her head, she was probably searching for somekind of normalcy, and look at this entire mess.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: All very sad.

Hi Rosie -

Yes, well said. The whole thing is terribly terribly sad.

And now poor little guy Jr. . . I am so afraid for him. I truly am.

I think we all are Tams, and can't even imagine the fear Crystal and her family have sitting back and worrying about him, yet unable to do anything about it........so d@mn mad right now    ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 26, 2009, 07:47:30 PM
I believe the children did not deserve in be in the care of a babysister/ gf who just got off a 3 day drug and sex binge and I blame Ron for that also as he is the parent who is supposed to be responsible for Haleigh and Jr welfare....And its apparent Misty  friends are some rough characters who are into drugs , are criminals and into sexapades .. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 07:49:07 PM
I believe the children did not deserve in be in the care of a babysister/ gf who just got off a 3 day drug and sex binge and I blame Ron for that also as he is the parent who is supposed to be responsible for Haleigh and Jr welfare....And its apparent Misty  friends are some rough characters who are into drugs , are criminals and into sexapades .. ::MonkeyNoNo::
EXACTLY JG~no matter how you look at it, he's culpable at some level.......we just don't what level yet, big monkey nono


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 07:51:25 PM
I believe the children did not deserve in be in the care of a babysister/ gf who just got off a 3 day drug and sex binge and I blame Ron for that also as he is the parent who is supposed to be responsible for Haleigh and Jr welfare....And its apparent Misty  friends are some rough characters who are into drugs , are criminals and into sexapades .. ::MonkeyNoNo::
Won't argue that, there is no excuse that Ron left the kids with her. This one statement that Misty made kind of says it all, Misty reflects “My life has not been
very good and it looks like its not going to get any better.”    What exactly is she all saying here, somekind of utterance of guilt?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 07:54:41 PM
I believe the children did not deserve in be in the care of a babysister/ gf who just got off a 3 day drug and sex binge and I blame Ron for that also as he is the parent who is supposed to be responsible for Haleigh and Jr welfare....And its apparent Misty  friends are some rough characters who are into drugs , are criminals and into sexapades .. ::MonkeyNoNo::
Won't argue that, there is no excuse that Ron left the kids with her. This one statement that Misty made kind of says it all, Misty reflects “My life has not been
very good and it looks like its not going to get any better.”    What exactly is she all saying here, somekind of utterance of guilt?

I thought the same thing, almost an admittance of involvement.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 26, 2009, 07:59:40 PM
I believe the children did not deserve in be in the care of a babysister/ gf who just got off a 3 day drug and sex binge and I blame Ron for that also as he is the parent who is supposed to be responsible for Haleigh and Jr welfare....And its apparent Misty  friends are some rough characters who are into drugs , are criminals and into sexapades .. ::MonkeyNoNo::
EXACTLY JG~no matter how you look at it, he's culpable at some level.......we just don't what level yet, big monkey nono

"Tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are."



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 08:01:07 PM
I believe the children did not deserve in be in the care of a babysister/ gf who just got off a 3 day drug and sex binge and I blame Ron for that also as he is the parent who is supposed to be responsible for Haleigh and Jr welfare....And its apparent Misty  friends are some rough characters who are into drugs , are criminals and into sexapades .. ::MonkeyNoNo::
EXACTLY JG~no matter how you look at it, he's culpable at some level.......we just don't what level yet, big monkey nono

"Tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are."



Sad yet so true  ::MonkeyNoNo::










Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 26, 2009, 08:06:22 PM
I believe the children did not deserve in be in the care of a babysister/ gf who just got off a 3 day drug and sex binge and I blame Ron for that also as he is the parent who is supposed to be responsible for Haleigh and Jr welfare....And its apparent Misty  friends are some rough characters who are into drugs , are criminals and into sexapades .. ::MonkeyNoNo::
Won't argue that, there is no excuse that Ron left the kids with her. This one statement that Misty made kind of says it all, Misty reflects “My life has not been
very good and it looks like its not going to get any better.”    What exactly is she all saying here, somekind of utterance of guilt?

I thought the same thing, almost an admittance of involvement.......

Count me in on that comment too...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 08:11:08 PM
I believe the children did not deserve in be in the care of a babysister/ gf who just got off a 3 day drug and sex binge and I blame Ron for that also as he is the parent who is supposed to be responsible for Haleigh and Jr welfare....And its apparent Misty  friends are some rough characters who are into drugs , are criminals and into sexapades .. ::MonkeyNoNo::
Won't argue that, there is no excuse that Ron left the kids with her. This one statement that Misty made kind of says it all, Misty reflects “My life has not been
very good and it looks like its not going to get any better.”    What exactly is she all saying here, somekind of utterance of guilt?

I thought the same thing, almost an admittance of involvement.......

Count me in on that comment too...
I'm afraid of what is all going on in the Cummings home tonight  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 26, 2009, 08:22:28 PM
I believe the children did not deserve in be in the care of a babysister/ gf who just got off a 3 day drug and sex binge and I blame Ron for that also as he is the parent who is supposed to be responsible for Haleigh and Jr welfare....And its apparent Misty  friends are some rough characters who are into drugs , are criminals and into sexapades .. ::MonkeyNoNo::
Won't argue that, there is no excuse that Ron left the kids with her. This one statement that Misty made kind of says it all, Misty reflects “My life has not been
very good and it looks like its not going to get any better.”    What exactly is she all saying here, somekind of utterance of guilt?

I thought the same thing, almost an admittance of involvement.......

Count me in on that comment too...
I'm afraid of what is all going on in the Cummings home tonight  ::MonkeyEek::

I hope JR is not in that home tonight... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 26, 2009, 08:22:44 PM
Misty has had a very sad life, one without rewards other than the drugs she can manage to acquire, not that I consider drugs to be "rewards".  She is woefully uneducated, and unable to educate herself.  (Many can do that., but Misty needs lots of incentives, of which she's had none.)  Beyond being uneducated, I believe that she is not very bright.  I notice in her public utterances, she is always on the defensive, giving me reason to believe she feels the need to lie.  She is unable to keep track of her tales, probably due to low intelligence.  Nonetheless, she does feel compelled to "defend" herself because of all the questions.  She is VERY insecure due to her sad upbringing, and wants people to think positive things about her, hence a motive for lying, or rather telling a story she wants people to believe.   I believe some of her lying is due to her low intelligence.  The rest, well, she may have things she is ashamed about and is covering herself.  I do not believe she has the capability of understanding that the truth about that night Haleigh disappeared will help find the child.  She is too much into defending herself and lying rather than aiding the search for Haleigh.

Misty is capable of slapping Junior around.  She has a mean hand, and does not know that kind of behavior is bad for the child.  This and her liberal use of drugs can lead to disaster for any child.  Ron has a violent temper and is given to drug binges as well.  Definitely not a safe home for kids.  I definitely think a detailed questioning of Misty could be fruitful, especially, is she could be put to ease, so that she does not lie.

Edit: Fix typo. MB


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 26, 2009, 08:31:02 PM
Third line above, do for due.  Fixed.

I've known folks with only a 3d or 4th education amoungst my hillbilly family and friends who speak and spell at 10th-12th grade level, simply by doing such simple things as reading farm journals or the thin local newspaper.  I guess it's a matter of incentives.  Misty seems to have given up on this score.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 26, 2009, 08:32:47 PM
Third line above, do for due. 

I've known folks with only a 3d or 4th education amoungst my hillbilly family and friends who speak and spell at 10th-12th grade level, simply by doing such things as reading farm journals or the thin local newspaper.  I guess it's a matter of incentives.  Misty seems to have given up on this score.  It's very sad.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 08:38:27 PM
Third line above, do for due.  Fixed.

I've known folks with only a 3d or 4th education amoungst my hillbilly family and friends who speak and spell at 10th-12th grade level, simply by doing such simple things as reading farm journals or the thin local newspaper.  I guess it's a matter of incentives.  Misty seems to have given up on this score.
Misty has given up, and settled, a shame.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Tams on August 26, 2009, 08:38:34 PM
Misty has had a very sad life, one without rewards other than the drugs she can manage to acquire, not that I consider drugs to be "rewards".  She is woefully uneducated, and unable to educate herself.  (Many can due that., but Misty needs lots of incentives, of which she's had none.)  Beyond being uneducated, I believe that she is not very bright.  I notice in her public utterances, she is always on the defensive, giving me reason to believe she feels the need to lie.  She is unable to keep track of her tales, probably due to low intelligence.  Nonetheless, she does feel compelled to "defend" herself because of all the questions.  She is VERY insecure due to her sad upbringing, and wants people to think positive things about her, hence a motive for lying, or rather telling a story she wants people to believe.   I believe some of her lying is due to her low intelligence.  The rest, well, she may have things she is ashamed about and is covering herself.  I do not believe she has the capability of understanding that the truth about that night Haleigh disappeared will help find the child.  She is too much into defending herself and lying rather than aiding the search for Haleigh.

Misty is capable of slapping Junior around.  She has a mean hand, and does not know that kind of behavior is bad for the child.  This and her liberal use of drugs can lead to disaster for any child.  Ron has a violent temper and is given to drug binges as well.  Definitely not a safe home for kids.  I definitely think a detailed questioning of Misty could be fruitful, especially, is she could be put to ease, so that she does not lie.

Very well said Strayze.

Who, though, could be the one to put Misty at ease & get her to come clean? She has backed herself into such a corner, that she is probably afraid of talking to ANYONE. Even if it is just that she wasn't home at all that night (which I personally tend to believe), WHO could she possibly tell that to now? We now know that her entire life has been spent honing her survival skills . . . and she is clearly in survival mode now . . .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 08:41:05 PM
Misty is in survival mode, and by looking at her from her wedding pics, I think she thought she was going to live happily ever after. A lot of people let Misty down, and God only knows what she has done. I certainly hope this comes to a conclusion soon.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 26, 2009, 08:45:25 PM
Misty has had a very sad life, one without rewards other than the drugs she can manage to acquire, not that I consider drugs to be "rewards".  She is woefully uneducated, and unable to educate herself.  (Many can due that., but Misty needs lots of incentives, of which she's had none.)  Beyond being uneducated, I believe that she is not very bright.  I notice in her public utterances, she is always on the defensive, giving me reason to believe she feels the need to lie.  She is unable to keep track of her tales, probably due to low intelligence.  Nonetheless, she does feel compelled to "defend" herself because of all the questions.  She is VERY insecure due to her sad upbringing, and wants people to think positive things about her, hence a motive for lying, or rather telling a story she wants people to believe.   I believe some of her lying is due to her low intelligence.  The rest, well, she may have things she is ashamed about and is covering herself.  I do not believe she has the capability of understanding that the truth about that night Haleigh disappeared will help find the child.  She is too much into defending herself and lying rather than aiding the search for Haleigh.

Misty is capable of slapping Junior around.  She has a mean hand, and does not know that kind of behavior is bad for the child.  This and her liberal use of drugs can lead to disaster for any child.  Ron has a violent temper and is given to drug binges as well.  Definitely not a safe home for kids.  I definitely think a detailed questioning of Misty could be fruitful, especially, is she could be put to ease, so that she does not lie.

Very well said Strayze.

Who, though, could be the one to put Misty at ease & get her to come clean? She has backed herself into such a corner, that she is probably afraid of talking to ANYONE. Even if it is just that she wasn't home at all that night (which I personally tend to believe), WHO could she possibly tell that to now? We now know that her entire life has been spent honing her survival skills . . . and she is clearly in survival mode now . . .

I feel like if anyone can get her to trust them and talk to them, it would be Tim Miller.

And I don't think Tim is giving up yet.

JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 09:02:51 PM
Hopefully Tim will get Misty to talk.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 26, 2009, 09:03:32 PM
hopefully things will start happening now with all of this coming out...
Granny Sykes is not going to take kindly to hearing that Misty failed the lie detector test..imo...I believe that Teresa has already "turned" on Misty....without being too obvious about it...She wants to still be able to see jr. and does not want to anger Ron/Misty overly yet until she knows for sure what Misty's involvement in Haleigh's disappearance was....jmo...
I am feeling that there will be an arrest of Misty soon...and then the truth will come out...and when the truth does come out, it will be a good thing that Misty will be in jail cause I don't know what Ron would do to her when he hears what happened...and again, I mainly think that she was gone that evening, leaving the kids alone and someone who had been watching Misty and her shenanigans, made their move and took Haleigh...jmo...I really don't think that Ron knows the truth...but Misty does....jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 09:38:33 PM
http://www.news4jax.com/video/20569945/index.html





 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 09:41:05 PM
http://www.news4jax.com/video/20569945/index.html





 ::MonkeyGavel::

Sheriff dept states they aren't surprised about the results of polygraph.............no kidding. Misty called Tim according to this video and asked Tim to help clear her name because she "didn't do so good on the other tests"


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 26, 2009, 09:50:38 PM
The voice analysis was perhaps the most revealing and according to results “It appears Misty Cummings knows what happened and was directly involved in the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings”.
This is a important part of that article also IMO'''

particularly interested in her version of the timeline the night of February 9th between 8:00pm and 3:00am. She claims she put Haleigh down at 8:00pm and went to sleep herself at 10:00 and awoke abruptly at 3:00 to find Haleigh gone. Now even her husband Ronald isn’t buying that story “she never went to bed that night” he said “the bed was made” Police confirmed Ronald’s story. As the investigation closes in on her and investigators focus on


I think Ronald has to know or suspect Misty is lying about more than just going to bed, I think just maybe with this 3rd test thinmgs are about to happen.....  If I was Misty I would just asked to be locked up before Ronald or someone in Haleighs family decides to tak matters into their own hands....MOO
just got here trying to catch up but this caught my eye....jmo..jmo..jmo..it wasn't the made up bed that convinced ron that she never went to bed that night....JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 09:59:34 PM
http://www.news4jax.com/video/20569945/index.html





 ::MonkeyGavel::
Thanks, the heat is on big time.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on August 26, 2009, 10:02:35 PM
 ::MonkeyLaugh::

mamacrazy30 - Think I found a relative...

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/happymonkey-1.gif)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 10:05:45 PM
http://www.news4jax.com/video/20569945/index.html





 ::MonkeyGavel::
Thanks, the heat is on big time.
No chit!!!!!! Gotta love how Tim just puts it out there (especially ehrn the majority felt this was the case from day one), at least he has the cajones to get the ball rolling. I am sick with worry over Jr though and praying that he is out of that house tonight.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 10:09:35 PM
http://www.news4jax.com/video/20569945/index.html





 ::MonkeyGavel::
Thanks, the heat is on big time.
No chit!!!!!! Gotta love how Tim just puts it out there (especially when the majority felt this was the case from day one), at least he has the cajones to get the ball rolling. I am sick with worry over Jr though and praying that he is out of that house tonight.

edit: Typo........can't spell worth a carp tonight ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 26, 2009, 10:11:28 PM
::MonkeyLaugh::

mamacrazy30 - Think I found a relative...

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/happymonkey-1.gif)
::MonkeySlide:: ::MonkeyCheer2:: ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeySkate:: ::MonkeyBike:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyKiss::

that's my cousin wilma... ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 26, 2009, 10:11:42 PM
http://www.news4jax.com/video/20569945/index.html





 ::MonkeyGavel::
Thanks, the heat is on big time.
No chit!!!!!! Gotta love how Tim just puts it out there (especially ehrn the majority felt this was the case from day one), at least he has the cajones to get the ball rolling. I am sick with worry over Jr though and praying that he is out of that house tonight.
I wish he could be out of the house tonight.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 26, 2009, 10:22:39 PM
http://www.news4jax.com/video/20569945/index.html





 ::MonkeyGavel::

Sheriff dept states they aren't surprised about the results of polygraph.............no kidding. Misty called Tim according to this video and asked Tim to help clear her name because she "didn't do so good on the other tests"

Everytime I go to view the video it kicks me off??? ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 10:33:18 PM
http://www.news4jax.com/video/20569945/index.html





 ::MonkeyGavel::

Sheriff dept states they aren't surprised about the results of polygraph.............no kidding. Misty called Tim according to this video and asked Tim to help clear her name because she "didn't do so good on the other tests"

Everytime I go to view the video it kicks me off??? ::MonkeyEek::

Me too JG............maybe PCSO should hire Tim to get things going, seems he did more since he announced the new search than PCSO did in 6 months. He managed to relight this fire finally and I feel like answers may be coming soon.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 26, 2009, 10:52:29 PM
OK, now I have to wonder why? did Tim Miller release the results of this polygraph, isnt that gonna cause a rift now between him and Misty, how is she suppose to trust him now, he just released something Im sure she didnt want known and so now she will probably treat him like she has the LE when the heat was on, she is gonna shut up and refuse to talk to him anymore IMO......There is something wierd about all this and I just cant quit put my finger on it, but if I was a betting person I would say that Tim is really helping his friend NeJames out, he is building a walll between Misty and the rest of the Cummings and waiting to see what is gonna happen  now with this news, something is gonna hit the fan soon, Im certain of that, Tim has a agenda and I have just come to realize that I think Ronald is in on it too, he and Tim seemed to get alone really good at the beginning if this case and I think Tim is there to help Ronald smoke Misty out...JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 11:09:22 PM
 ::MonkeyDevil2::

Oh Crap~JG, watch your blood pressure

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?maven_playerId=articleplayer&maven_referralPlaylistId=playlist&maven_referralObject=1227722663


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 11:12:07 PM
OOPS~one more, in Tim's own words:

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?maven_playerId=articleplayer&maven_referralPlaylistId=playlist&maven_referralObject=1227722663


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Wyks on August 26, 2009, 11:29:26 PM
I just don't understand why LE hasn't taken action with Misty!!    ::MonkeyConfused::  Seems to me that there's been a good majority of others thrown in jail who refuse to cooperate with LE, as being the primary POI's in those cases.  Why the delicate handling of Misty??   Why does it seem that LE is afraid or reluctant to act in this case?   Why not at least charge her with obstruction of justice?  sigh....

Toss that lil *ahem* in solitary confinement until she decides to talk... or... give us monkeys 5 minutes each alone with her.  hehe....  She'd be BEGGING to talk with LE long before we got thru chatting with her.   ::MonkeyTongue::   ::MonkeyCool::




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 26, 2009, 11:33:17 PM
I just don't understand why LE hasn't taken action with Misty!!    ::MonkeyConfused::  Seems to me that there's been a good majority of others thrown in jail who refuse to cooperate with LE, as being the primary POI's in those cases.  Why the delicate handling of Misty??   Why does it seem that LE is afraid or reluctant to act in this case?   Why not at least charge her with obstruction of justice?  sigh....

Toss that lil *ahem* in solitary confinement until she decides to talk... or... give us monkeys 5 minutes each alone with her.  hehe....  She'd be BEGGING to talk with LE long before we got thru chatting with her.   ::MonkeyTongue::   ::MonkeyCool::



Hey Wyls, and you got that right, by the time we got through with her she would be able to tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and give the entire definition to inconsistency without thinking about it.........Yea, let me at her!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 26, 2009, 11:37:33 PM
OK, now I have to wonder why? did Tim Miller release the results of this polygraph, isnt that gonna cause a rift now between him and Misty, how is she suppose to trust him now, he just released something Im sure she didnt want known and so now she will probably treat him like she has the LE when the heat was on, she is gonna shut up and refuse to talk to him anymore IMO......There is something wierd about all this and I just cant quit put my finger on it, but if I was a betting person I would say that Tim is really helping his friend NeJames out, he is building a walll between Misty and the rest of the Cummings and waiting to see what is gonna happen  now with this news, something is gonna hit the fan soon, Im certain of that, Tim has a agenda and I have just come to realize that I think Ronald is in on it too, he and Tim seemed to get alone really good at the beginning if this case and I think Tim is there to help Ronald smoke Misty out...JMO
but i don't think its all misty...i have no doubt she is involved (even if she doesn't know it)  but ????  she can't even spell...but she can run satsuma le in every direction but the right one in six months????  she's that good/shady?  i still have an issue with the last poly question and her 4? percent.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 26, 2009, 11:41:42 PM
OK, now I have to wonder why? did Tim Miller release the results of this polygraph, isnt that gonna cause a rift now between him and Misty, how is she suppose to trust him now, he just released something Im sure she didnt want known and so now she will probably treat him like she has the LE when the heat was on, she is gonna shut up and refuse to talk to him anymore IMO......There is something wierd about all this and I just cant quit put my finger on it, but if I was a betting person I would say that Tim is really helping his friend NeJames out, he is building a walll between Misty and the rest of the Cummings and waiting to see what is gonna happen  now with this news, something is gonna hit the fan soon, Im certain of that, Tim has a agenda and I have just come to realize that I think Ronald is in on it too, he and Tim seemed to get alone really good at the beginning if this case and I think Tim is there to help Ronald smoke Misty out...JMO
but i don't think its all misty...i have no doubt she is involved (even if she doesn't know it)  but ????  she can't even spell...but she can run satsuma le in every direction but the right one in six months????  she's that good/shady?  i still have an issue with the last poly question and her 4? percent.
I dont think she acted alone either, but not being able to spell has nothing to do with being able to lie, and manipulate and cause confusion, these are the actions she has always used to her advantage and its clear that she is very good at it, if she put that much effort into her writing skills as she has her lieing she could probably write better than all of us combined.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 26, 2009, 11:57:49 PM
Looks like under the Florida Statutes she could be charged with neglect even if she didn't inflict any injury, I wish I could remember the case where a mom "lost" her child and was found guilty of all sorts of charges because the jury found that the child was in her care and she should have at minimum known where she was, let me see if I can find the case:

Negligently fails to protect a child in his or her care from inflicted physical, mental, or sexual injury caused by the acts of another.

Categories of Maltreatment Not Defined in Statute

DEFINITIONS

Fla. Stat. Ann. § 39.01(West, WESTLAW through End of 2003 Reg. Sess.)





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 12:02:28 AM
Here is one (not in Florida though)........not the one I was looking for, but here ya go:

Missing children found at Sauvie Island; mother accused of neglect
by Casey Parks, The Oregonian
Wednesday July 29, 2009, 5:30 AM

Columbia County Sheriff's Office
Diana BedrosianColumbia and Multnomah County sheriff's deputies have found two 6-year-olds who went missing today near Collins Beach on Sauvie Island.

Authorities arrested Washington County resident Diana Bedrosian, 46, on two counts of child neglect after she reportedly fell asleep. Bedrosian is the mother of one of the missing children.

Columbia County Sheriff Jeff Dickerson said the boy and girl were missing for about two hours.

"This is a case of someone going to the river for recreation, but neglecting her responsibility to make sure the children with her were safe," he said.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 12:03:28 AM
Here is one (not in Florida though)........not the one I was looking for, but here ya go:

Missing children found at Sauvie Island; mother accused of neglect
by Casey Parks, The Oregonian
Wednesday July 29, 2009, 5:30 AM

Columbia County Sheriff's Office
Diana BedrosianColumbia and Multnomah County sheriff's deputies have found two 6-year-olds who went missing today near Collins Beach on Sauvie Island.

Authorities arrested Washington County resident Diana Bedrosian, 46, on two counts of child neglect after she reportedly fell asleep. Bedrosian is the mother of one of the missing children.

Columbia County Sheriff Jeff Dickerson said the boy and girl were missing for about two hours.

"This is a case of someone going to the river for recreation, but neglecting her responsibility to make sure the children with her were safe," he said.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 27, 2009, 12:08:19 AM
OK, now I have to wonder why? did Tim Miller release the results of this polygraph, isnt that gonna cause a rift now between him and Misty, how is she suppose to trust him now, he just released something Im sure she didnt want known and so now she will probably treat him like she has the LE when the heat was on, she is gonna shut up and refuse to talk to him anymore IMO......There is something wierd about all this and I just cant quit put my finger on it, but if I was a betting person I would say that Tim is really helping his friend NeJames out, he is building a walll between Misty and the rest of the Cummings and waiting to see what is gonna happen  now with this news, something is gonna hit the fan soon, Im certain of that, Tim has a agenda and I have just come to realize that I think Ronald is in on it too, he and Tim seemed to get alone really good at the beginning if this case and I think Tim is there to help Ronald smoke Misty out...JMO
but i don't think its all misty...i have no doubt she is involved (even if she doesn't know it)  but ????  she can't even spell...but she can run satsuma le in every direction but the right one in six months????  she's that good/shady?  i still have an issue with the last poly question and her 4? percent.
I dont think she acted alone either, but not being able to spell has nothing to do with being able to lie, and manipulate and cause confusion, these are the actions she has always used to her advantage and its clear that she is very good at it, if she put that much effort into her writing skills as she has her lieing she could probably write better than all of us combined.
i sooo agree...but the willingness to take another polygraph if she knew she flunked the first three?  i'm just trying to wrap my head around this. ::MonkeyConfused::
did she feel that in her lying she had convinced herself to the point that she would pass a polygraph?  (cause she didn't)  did someone convince her that she could?  was the place full of people and she was in another room when Haleigh was taken as to why the 4?% on the last question?  is that the one question she really doesn't know the answer to?

i am only on Haleigh's side.  i'm just very confused right now. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 27, 2009, 12:13:10 AM
Looks like under the Florida Statutes she could be charged with neglect even if she didn't inflict any injury, I wish I could remember the case where a mom "lost" her child and was found guilty of all sorts of charges because the jury found that the child was in her care and she should have at minimum known where she was, let me see if I can find the case:

Negligently fails to protect a child in his or her care from inflicted physical, mental, or sexual injury caused by the acts of another.

Categories of Maltreatment Not Defined in Statute

DEFINITIONS

Fla. Stat. Ann. § 39.01(West, WESTLAW through End of 2003 Reg. Sess.)





island i am so with ya and i'm just putting this out there....I DO NOT LIKE MISTY AND I THINK SHE KNOWS.....however...at the time she was no relation to Haleigh and a minor her self....how could she be charged with neglect? 

(island i love you and it was a question i just thought about (not being an argue monkey  ::MonkeyAngel::.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 27, 2009, 12:23:04 AM
OK, now I have to wonder why? did Tim Miller release the results of this polygraph, isnt that gonna cause a rift now between him and Misty, how is she suppose to trust him now, he just released something Im sure she didnt want known and so now she will probably treat him like she has the LE when the heat was on, she is gonna shut up and refuse to talk to him anymore IMO......There is something wierd about all this and I just cant quit put my finger on it, but if I was a betting person I would say that Tim is really helping his friend NeJames out, he is building a walll between Misty and the rest of the Cummings and waiting to see what is gonna happen  now with this news, something is gonna hit the fan soon, Im certain of that, Tim has a agenda and I have just come to realize that I think Ronald is in on it too, he and Tim seemed to get alone really good at the beginning if this case and I think Tim is there to help Ronald smoke Misty out...JMO
but i don't think its all misty...i have no doubt she is involved (even if she doesn't know it)  but ????  she can't even spell...but she can run satsuma le in every direction but the right one in six months????  she's that good/shady?  i still have an issue with the last poly question and her 4? percent.
I dont think she acted alone either, but not being able to spell has nothing to do with being able to lie, and manipulate and cause confusion, these are the actions she has always used to her advantage and its clear that she is very good at it, if she put that much effort into her writing skills as she has her lieing she could probably write better than all of us combined.
i sooo agree...but the willingness to take another polygraph if she knew she flunked the first three?  i'm just trying to wrap my head around this. ::MonkeyConfused::
did she feel that in her lying she had convinced herself to the point that she would pass a polygraph?  (cause she didn't)  did someone convince her that she could?  was the place full of people and she was in another room when Haleigh was taken as to why the 4?% on the last question?  is that the one question she really doesn't know the answer to?

i am only on Haleigh's side.  i'm just very confused right now. ::MonkeyAngel::
I think it all came down to maybe Ronald saying to her, you have to clear your name, if you dont then Im gonna start to believe what everyone is saying and I think she then decided to do what she did in the hopes that she would pass, I dont know , its all kinda crazy right now for me,.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 12:26:36 AM
Looks like under the Florida Statutes she could be charged with neglect even if she didn't inflict any injury, I wish I could remember the case where a mom "lost" her child and was found guilty of all sorts of charges because the jury found that the child was in her care and she should have at minimum known where she was, let me see if I can find the case:

Negligently fails to protect a child in his or her care from inflicted physical, mental, or sexual injury caused by the acts of another.

Categories of Maltreatment Not Defined in Statute

DEFINITIONS

Fla. Stat. Ann. § 39.01(West, WESTLAW through End of 2003 Reg. Sess.)





island i am so with ya and i'm just putting this out there....I DO NOT LIKE MISTY AND I THINK SHE KNOWS.....however...at the time she was no relation to Haleigh and a minor her self....how could she be charged with neglect? 

(island i love you and it was a question i just thought about (not being an argue monkey  ::MonkeyAngel::.


I know you aren't arguing (I prefer debate ::MonkeyAngel:: ) ..........she was Haleigh's caregiver during the time something happened to her, and just because she was a minor doesn't mean she can't be charged as an adult (especially in Florida). This is a stretch even to me, but Haleigh obviously had something physical happen to her on Misty's time while she was acting as her caregiver............we just don't know what exactly it was yet.


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Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 27, 2009, 12:28:41 AM
Looks like under the Florida Statutes she could be charged with neglect even if she didn't inflict any injury, I wish I could remember the case where a mom "lost" her child and was found guilty of all sorts of charges because the jury found that the child was in her care and she should have at minimum known where she was, let me see if I can find the case:

Negligently fails to protect a child in his or her care from inflicted physical, mental, or sexual injury caused by the acts of another.

Categories of Maltreatment Not Defined in Statute

DEFINITIONS

Fla. Stat. Ann. § 39.01(West, WESTLAW through End of 2003 Reg. Sess.)





island i am so with ya and i'm just putting this out there....I DO NOT LIKE MISTY AND I THINK SHE KNOWS.....however...at the time she was no relation to Haleigh and a minor her self....how could she be charged with neglect? 

(island i love you and it was a question i just thought about (not being an argue monkey  ::MonkeyAngel::.


I know you aren't arguing (I prefer debate ::MonkeyAngel:: ) ..........she was Haleigh's caregiver during the time something happened to her, and just because she was a minor doesn't mean she can't be charged as an adult (especially in Florida). This is a stretch even to me, but Haleigh obviously had something physical happen to her on Misty's time while she was acting as her caregiver............we just don't know what exactly it was yet.

::MonkeyAngel:: :smt058 :smt056


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Wyks on August 27, 2009, 12:30:20 AM
I'm not sure of the legal ramifications, since Misty is a minor and all that... however... morally, it just seems to me that since she was placed "in charge" of the children by their father, she ought to be held accountable for one of them gone missing while in her care. Am thinking that at the very least she ought to be jabbering her head off as to what happened.  Now, how to make that stick legally?  I dunno.   Even Ron asked her how she could let his daughter 'get stole'. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 12:33:43 AM
OK, now I have to wonder why? did Tim Miller release the results of this polygraph, isnt that gonna cause a rift now between him and Misty, how is she suppose to trust him now, he just released something Im sure she didnt want known and so now she will probably treat him like she has the LE when the heat was on, she is gonna shut up and refuse to talk to him anymore IMO......There is something wierd about all this and I just cant quit put my finger on it, but if I was a betting person I would say that Tim is really helping his friend NeJames out, he is building a walll between Misty and the rest of the Cummings and waiting to see what is gonna happen  now with this news, something is gonna hit the fan soon, Im certain of that, Tim has a agenda and I have just come to realize that I think Ronald is in on it too, he and Tim seemed to get alone really good at the beginning if this case and I think Tim is there to help Ronald smoke Misty out...JMO
but i don't think its all misty...i have no doubt she is involved (even if she doesn't know it)  but ????  she can't even spell...but she can run satsuma le in every direction but the right one in six months????  she's that good/shady?  i still have an issue with the last poly question and her 4? percent.
I dont think she acted alone either, but not being able to spell has nothing to do with being able to lie, and manipulate and cause confusion, these are the actions she has always used to her advantage and its clear that she is very good at it, if she put that much effort into her writing skills as she has her lieing she could probably write better than all of us combined.
i sooo agree...but the willingness to take another polygraph if she knew she flunked the first three?  i'm just trying to wrap my head around this. ::MonkeyConfused::
did she feel that in her lying she had convinced herself to the point that she would pass a polygraph?  (cause she didn't)  did someone convince her that she could?  was the place full of people and she was in another room when Haleigh was taken as to why the 4?% on the last question?  is that the one question she really doesn't know the answer to?

i am only on Haleigh's side.  i'm just very confused right now. ::MonkeyAngel::
I think it all came down to maybe Ronald saying to her, you have to clear your name, if you dont then Im gonna start to believe what everyone is saying and I think she then decided to do what she did in the hopes that she would pass, I dont know , its all kinda crazy right now for me,.

So crazy, but I'm still suspicious about her covering for RC............I honestly don't think that if he even thought she did this all by herself that he wouldn't have beat the truth out of her by now (and honestly I couldn't blame him), his temper is just too bad for me to grasp that he has "kept his enemies close" this long, also he would have been leaving JR in harms way if he had ever gone back to work...........something is still fishy to me MOO!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 27, 2009, 12:35:29 AM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/breaking/news-article.aspx?storyid=143952&catid=17


OMG, in this video Tim Miller  speaks and then Misty says ..." I thought it was a dream or something, seems like there was like 4 people"     then she is crying and saying 'why does every body think Im lying,   OMG........something is so wrong about all this.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 12:38:15 AM
I'm not sure of the legal ramifications, since Misty is a minor and all that... however... morally, it just seems to me that since she was placed "in charge" of the children by their father, she ought to be held accountable for one of them gone missing while in her care. Am thinking that at the very least she ought to be jabbering her head off as to what happened.  Now, how to make that stick legally?  I dunno.   Even Ron asked her how she could let his daughter 'get stole'. 

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 ::MonkeySkate:: Wyks~so good to see you again!!!!!!!! I'd have to research the minor issue (but there was a 13yr old charged with felony murder here in Fl yrs ago and IIRC, he was 12 when it happened-Nate something and I remember Jeffrey Fieger was his atty).


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Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 12:39:48 AM
I'm not sure of the legal ramifications, since Misty is a minor and all that... however... morally, it just seems to me that since she was placed "in charge" of the children by their father, she ought to be held accountable for one of them gone missing while in her care. Am thinking that at the very least she ought to be jabbering her head off as to what happened.  Now, how to make that stick legally?  I dunno.   Even Ron asked her how she could let his daughter 'get stole'. 






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 ::MonkeySkate:: Wyks~so good to see you again!!!!!!!! I'd have to research the minor issue (but there was a 13yr old charged with felony murder here in Fl yrs ago and IIRC, he was 12 when it happened-Nate something and I remember Jeffrey Fieger was his atty).


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 12:44:15 AM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/breaking/news-article.aspx?storyid=143952&catid=17


OMG, in this video Tim Miller  speaks and then Misty says ..." I thought it was a dream or something, seems like there was like 4 people"     then she is crying and saying 'why does every body think Im lying,   OMG........something is so wrong about all this.
::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

FTLOG, she even told him "I'm only 17" while she was crying.............

Ron hung up on FC News  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Blumonkey on August 27, 2009, 12:44:41 AM
I'm not sure of the legal ramifications, since Misty is a minor and all that... however... morally, it just seems to me that since she was placed "in charge" of the children by their father, she ought to be held accountable for one of them gone missing while in her care. Am thinking that at the very least she ought to be jabbering her head off as to what happened.  Now, how to make that stick legally?  I dunno.   Even Ron asked her how she could let his daughter 'get stole'. 

Misty was living the life of an adult with Ronald and with her parent's knowledge, therefore she was an emancipated minor and is responsible for her own actions as an adult. I do not personally think she was mature enough to be left in charge of 2 young children, but some parents will leave their children overnight with a teen age babysitter and think nothing of it.
Misty accepted responsibility for those children and will be held accountable. Ron is culpable as well for neglecting to provide a mature caretaker for his children.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 12:50:31 AM
I'm not sure of the legal ramifications, since Misty is a minor and all that... however... morally, it just seems to me that since she was placed "in charge" of the children by their father, she ought to be held accountable for one of them gone missing while in her care. Am thinking that at the very least she ought to be jabbering her head off as to what happened.  Now, how to make that stick legally?  I dunno.   Even Ron asked her how she could let his daughter 'get stole'. 

Misty was living the life of an adult with Ronald and with her parent's knowledge, therefore she was an emancipated minor and is responsible for her own actions as an adult. I do not personally think she was mature enough to be left in charge of 2 young children, but some parents will leave their children overnight with a teen age babysitter and think nothing of it.
Misty accepted responsibility for those children and will be held accountable. Ron is culpable as well for neglecting to provide a mature caretaker for his children.

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for stating so clearly what I have been struggling to get out about both Ron and Misty.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Wyks on August 27, 2009, 12:54:56 AM
I'm not sure of the legal ramifications, since Misty is a minor and all that... however... morally, it just seems to me that since she was placed "in charge" of the children by their father, she ought to be held accountable for one of them gone missing while in her care. Am thinking that at the very least she ought to be jabbering her head off as to what happened.  Now, how to make that stick legally?  I dunno.   Even Ron asked her how she could let his daughter 'get stole'. 






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 ::MonkeySkate:: Wyks~so good to see you again!!!!!!!! I'd have to research the minor issue (but there was a 13yr old charged with felony murder here in Fl yrs ago and IIRC, he was 12 when it happened-Nate something and I remember Jeffrey Fieger was his atty).


Thanks IM, it's good to see you too!  I missed you and all the other monkeys too! 

Gosh, that's so young to have committed a felony murder.  :(  Makes one wonder what the heck this world is coming to, that one so young could do such a thing.  Not that an adult doing such a thing is any easier to understand.  <shaking head> 

Ya know, this with Misty... seems to me that Ron must have thought Misty was 'old enough' to to have the responsibility of taking care of his children, seems that would also include being held accountable for whatever happened while they were in her care.  Gosh, if I was the birth mother, somebody would have to hold me back and sit on me, to keep me from going after her myself!!
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 12:55:03 AM
Night all~this tired monkey is heading to bed and praying for Haleigh  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 27, 2009, 12:56:26 AM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/breaking/news-article.aspx?storyid=143952&catid=17


OMG, in this video Tim Miller  speaks and then Misty says ..." I thought it was a dream or something, seems like there was like 4 people"     then she is crying and saying 'why does every body think Im lying,   OMG........something is so wrong about all this.
::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

FTLOG, she even told him "I'm only 17" while she was crying.............

Ron hung up on FC News  ::MonkeyRoll::
I dont know what to think of any of this, but i think we got our answer as to why the search was not done....with this brewing and Lord only knows what else is to follow, I think maybe they couldnt handle anything else right now.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Wyks on August 27, 2009, 12:56:30 AM
Wow.. I messed that post up!   ::MonkeyEek::  Sorry...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 12:56:41 AM
I'm not sure of the legal ramifications, since Misty is a minor and all that... however... morally, it just seems to me that since she was placed "in charge" of the children by their father, she ought to be held accountable for one of them gone missing while in her care. Am thinking that at the very least she ought to be jabbering her head off as to what happened.  Now, how to make that stick legally?  I dunno.   Even Ron asked her how she could let his daughter 'get stole'. 






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 ::MonkeySkate:: Wyks~so good to see you again!!!!!!!! I'd have to research the minor issue (but there was a 13yr old charged with felony murder here in Fl yrs ago and IIRC, he was 12 when it happened-Nate something and I remember Jeffrey Fieger was his atty).


Thanks IM, it's good to see you too!  I missed you and all the other monkeys too! 

Gosh, that's so young to have committed a felony murder.  :(  Makes one wonder what the heck this world is coming to, that one so young could do such a thing.  Not that an adult doing such a thing is any easier to understand.  <shaking head> 

Ya know, this with Misty... seems to me that Ron must have thought Misty was 'old enough' to to have the responsibility of taking care of his children, seems that would also include being held accountable for whatever happened while they were in her care.  Gosh, if I was the birth mother, somebody would have to hold me back and sit on me, to keep me from going after her myself!!
 


lol~I have said that over and over.........it would take everyone around me to keep me off of her ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 27, 2009, 12:57:22 AM
Night all~this tired monkey is heading to bed and praying for Haleigh  ::MonkeyAngel::
Goodnight, Im not far behind, dont know what tomorrow will bring, we need rest....lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Blumonkey on August 27, 2009, 01:00:33 AM
Was Ron ever asked how Misty was dressed that night when he came home to find Haleigh missing? I wonder if she had on clothes or pajamas. I also wonder how Jr. was dressed. IIRC Misty said she gave Haleigh a bath but when asked what clothes she was wearing she said a pink top? Why not pajamas after a bath and on a school night? Things that make you go hmm.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Wyks on August 27, 2009, 01:01:49 AM
I'm not sure of the legal ramifications, since Misty is a minor and all that... however... morally, it just seems to me that since she was placed "in charge" of the children by their father, she ought to be held accountable for one of them gone missing while in her care. Am thinking that at the very least she ought to be jabbering her head off as to what happened.  Now, how to make that stick legally?  I dunno.   Even Ron asked her how she could let his daughter 'get stole'. 

Misty was living the life of an adult with Ronald and with her parent's knowledge, therefore she was an emancipated minor and is responsible for her own actions as an adult. I do not personally think she was mature enough to be left in charge of 2 young children, but some parents will leave their children overnight with a teen age babysitter and think nothing of it.
Misty accepted responsibility for those children and will be held accountable. Ron is culpable as well for neglecting to provide a mature caretaker for his children.

Yep yep yep, exactly!!!   ::MonkeyGavel::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 27, 2009, 01:09:19 AM
Was Ron ever asked how Misty was dressed that night when he came home to find Haleigh missing? I wonder if she had on clothes or pajamas. I also wonder how Jr. was dressed. IIRC Misty said she gave Haleigh a bath but when asked what clothes she was wearing she said a pink top? Why not pajamas after a bath and on a school night? Things that make you go hmm.
I could be wrong, but I thought she said the shirt HaLeih had on was the same shirt she wore to school that day, so then why did HaLeigh still have it on if she took a bath? more crazy questions and no answers.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Wyks on August 27, 2009, 01:13:43 AM
Misty was living the life of an adult with Ronald and with her parent's knowledge, therefore she was an emancipated minor and is responsible for her own actions as an adult. I do not personally think she was mature enough to be left in charge of 2 young children, but some parents will leave their children overnight with a teen age babysitter and think nothing of it.
Misty accepted responsibility for those children and will be held accountable. Ron is culpable as well for neglecting to provide a mature caretaker for his children.

Am thinking that when all is said and done, Ron just might be brought up short by the judge.. because, remember that he promised the judge when he got custody that his children would be cared for by adults in his family while he was at work.  IIRC, he didn't contact the court to explain that his living arrangements had changed, and that his under-age gf would then be taking care of his kids.   Had the judge known that at the time, am thinking we wouldn't now be discussing where is Haleigh.  sigh.  Surely, that would be at least two counts against Ron for failure to follow court orders, etc.  (one count for each of his children). 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 27, 2009, 06:04:37 AM
::MonkeyDevil2::

Oh Crap~JG, watch your blood pressure

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?maven_playerId=articleplayer&maven_referralPlaylistId=playlist&maven_referralObject=1227722663

Thanks for this link... ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 27, 2009, 07:18:00 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20578710/detail.html
Report: Croslin Failed Lie Detector Test
Investigators Review Results Of Test


POSTED: 6:57 am EDT August 27, 2009
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Reports surfaced on Thursday that the last person seen with Haleigh Cummings failed some lie-detector tests.

Misty Croslin has since married Haliegh's father, Ronald Cummings.

Croslin claimed she awoke in the middle of the night to find the little girl was gone from their Putnam County home.

A TV station in Jacksonville reported that Croslin contacted Texas Equusearch, asking search crews to come back to Florida and continue the search. The group insisted that Croslin first clear her name and a series of lie-detector tests were set up.

The station quoted Equusearch as saying Croslin not only failed those lie-detector tests, but that she failed them miserably.

Putnam County investigators apparently subpoenaed the tests and are reviewing the results.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 27, 2009, 07:27:09 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/8/27/equusearch_misty_miserably_fails_lie_detector_test.html
 EquuSearch: Misty Miserably Fails Lie Detector Test
Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:36:08 AM

SATSUMA -- The last person to see missing 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings alive apparently failed a lie detector test.

Misty Croslin says she was with Haleigh inside a mobile home in Satsuma when someone took the girl in the middle of the night back in February.

Croslin and Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, got married shortly after Haleigh's disappearance.

The couple asked Texas EquuSearch to return to Central Florida to help look for the girl and clear their names. 
   
EquuSearch arranged for Croslin to take a lie detector test, which the group says she "failed miserably."
   
Texas EquuSearch turned their findings over to Putnam County deputies who say they're not surprised.

Croslin says she was pressured to take the test.  But Texas EquuSearch founder Tim Miller denies that claim.
   
Deputies say they don't have enough evidence to charge Croslin with any crime.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 27, 2009, 08:24:10 AM
Searcher: Haleigh's stepmom didn't pass polygraph

By Kristin Chambers
Published: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:37 AM EDT
The 17-year-old babysitter who last saw missing child Haleigh Cummings recently failed her fourth lie detector test, a person close to the case says.

Misty Croslin-Cummings, who is now married to Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, requested to take the test independent of law enforcement and without the consent of her attorney.

Haleigh's family contacted Tim Miller, the founder of Texas Equusearch, to help arrange for three experts to conduct several tests. Croslin-Cummings was questioned about her activities on the night the girl disappeared.

"She failed miserably," Miller said.



Robert Fields, Croslin-Cummings' attorney, said he should have been contacted before Croslin underwent the tests.

"Everyone knew that she has an attorney, and I do have a big question about why they pursued it, knowing she had an attorney," Fields said Wednesday.

Croslin-Cummings signed a document she created stating she was voluntarily performing a polygraph test against the advice of her lawyer, Miller said.

However, Fields was told Croslin-Cummings felt she was pressured to do the test so searches for Haleigh by Equusearch would continue.

Miller said that is the opposite of what occurred.

"Absolutely not," Miller said. "They said it needed to be approved with the attorney, but she wrote a note and signed it to give herself permission."

Miller added that Croslin-Cummings knew she was undergoing tests against her attorney's advice, and wanted to do it anyway to clear her name.

"It's no excuse to pursue the course of action he did," Fields said. "It is my understanding that she was pressured, and she did not want to do it."

A voice stress analysis and a test involving a hypnotist were conducted in addition to the polygraph test.

Croslin failed all three, Miller said.

The recent tests, however, may have given investigators more information to follow up.

"There are certainly some statements that were made that were not made in previous interrogations with law enforcement," Miller said.

The tests were passed to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office and reviewed by investigators Tuesday.

Officers have said repeatedly that Croslin-Cummings is the crucial link to solving the child's disappearance, and that she "continues to hold important answers."

"It is what it is, exactly what we've already known," Capt. Dominic Piscitello said. "We still say she is the key to getting to the bottom of what happened to Haleigh."

Croslin-Cummings and Ronald Cummings have previously claimed that they each passed lie detector tests.

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/08/27/news/news01.txt



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Post by: cookie on August 27, 2009, 08:25:21 AM
::MonkeyLaugh::

mamacrazy30 - Think I found a relative...

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/happymonkey-1.gif)

grama..love this little one! I have been looking for a different avvie...could I use this little one? I will see if Brandi can "girly" her up a bit..but I love her! TIA


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 09:35:17 AM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/breaking/news-article.aspx?storyid=143952&catid=17


OMG, in this video Tim Miller  speaks and then Misty says ..." I thought it was a dream or something, seems like there was like 4 people"     then she is crying and saying 'why does every body think Im lying,   OMG........something is so wrong about all this.
Good Morning, WTH there was like 4 people. So 4 people that were family members, because correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't there be some DNA or something if it was 4 strangers. None of this makes sense.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 09:36:46 AM
I'm not sure of the legal ramifications, since Misty is a minor and all that... however... morally, it just seems to me that since she was placed "in charge" of the children by their father, she ought to be held accountable for one of them gone missing while in her care. Am thinking that at the very least she ought to be jabbering her head off as to what happened.  Now, how to make that stick legally?  I dunno.   Even Ron asked her how she could let his daughter 'get stole'. 

Misty was living the life of an adult with Ronald and with her parent's knowledge, therefore she was an emancipated minor and is responsible for her own actions as an adult. I do not personally think she was mature enough to be left in charge of 2 young children, but some parents will leave their children overnight with a teen age babysitter and think nothing of it.
Misty accepted responsibility for those children and will be held accountable. Ron is culpable as well for neglecting to provide a mature caretaker for his children.

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for stating so clearly what I have been struggling to get out about both Ron and Misty.
Me too, EXACTLY


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 09:38:48 AM
Thanks Trimm   Putnam County investigators apparently subpoenaed the tests and are reviewing the results. Good


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 27, 2009, 09:48:46 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20579259/detail.html
Searcher: Misty Cummings Failed Tests
Haleigh Cummings Vanished From Home 6 Months Ago

POSTED: Thursday, August 27, 2009
UPDATED: 8:06 am EDT August 27, 2009
PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- Misty Cummings, the last person to see Haleigh Cummings before she mysteriously vanished, has failed lie detector tests, according to the leader of a search group.

Haleigh was 5 years old when she disappeared from her Satsuma home six months ago. Misty Cummings -- who has since married Haleigh's father -- was inside the home with Haleigh and Haleigh's brother at the time of her disappearance.

Shortly after Haleigh was reported missing, the Texas-based group Equusearch, which also searched for Caylee Anthony, looked for Haleigh.

Equusearch director Tim Miller said Misty Cummings called him last week, asking for his help and to continue searching for the girl. Miller said Misty Cummings asked the group to help her clear her name, WJXT-TV reported.

According to Miller, the call came two days after the Putnam County Sheriff's Office said Misty Cumming's story about what happened the night Haleigh disappeared "sketchy." Officials also said Misty Cummings continues to hold important answers in the case.
In an exclusive interview with WJXT one day after Haleigh's disappearance, Misty said, "I want everyone to know I did nothing with that little girl. If I knew, we would have her. I don't know where she is."

In the same interview, Misty Cummings said she took a lie detector test and thought she did OK.

But now, Miller said Misty Cummings wanted to take another test, so Equusearch arranged for her to take a lie detector test in Orlando last week.

Miller said Misty Cummings failed "miserably." He also said she failed more than once.

There were three parts to the test, a written portion and a voice analysis, and Miller said she failed both.

There was also a hypnotism session, but Miller said it didn't produce any results because she was fighting being put under.

Misty Cumming's attorney in Putnam County said he told her not to take the tests but she felt pressured to because she wanted Equusearch's help in the search for her stepdaughter.

Miller said Equusearch did not pressure Misty Cummings into taking a lie detector test.

WJXT was told when investigators with the Putnam County Sheriff's Office heard about the new polygraph tests, it subpoenaed the results.

The sheriff's department only said it is not surprised at reports of the results of the new tests.


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Post by: klaasend on August 27, 2009, 10:30:47 AM
Reminder - this is Misty's note agreeing/asking for the polygraph:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/MistyPolygraph081709.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 10:40:18 AM
Reminder - this is Misty's note agreeing/asking for the polygraph:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/MistyPolygraph081709.jpg)
Words escape me  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on August 27, 2009, 10:41:19 AM
Reminder - this is Misty's note agreeing/asking for the polygraph:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/MistyPolygraph081709.jpg)
Words escape me  ::MonkeyEek::

Me too - wow, just wow.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 10:54:38 AM
Reminder - this is Misty's note agreeing/asking for the polygraph:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/MistyPolygraph081709.jpg)
Words escape me  ::MonkeyEek::

I can't see it because I'm on my office puter......is this the same one that was page 3 of the PDF document????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 10:56:01 AM
IM yes the one with all the words spelled wrong and bad penmanship.


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Post by: cookie on August 27, 2009, 10:58:23 AM
God bless Haleigh...hopefully some answers will be forthcoming and she will be found..special thoughts going out to her and to her parents and family....this has to be hell for all of them...especially Haleigh...
Misty! tell the truth!


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 11:03:46 AM
Today at 3 is the hearing about Jr, if it don't go Ron's way.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 27, 2009, 11:07:19 AM
Reminder - this is Misty's note agreeing/asking for the polygraph:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/MistyPolygraph081709.jpg)
Words escape me  ::MonkeyEek::

I can't see it because I'm on my office puter......is this the same one that was page 3 of the PDF document????

IM - yes


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 11:13:24 AM
 ::MonkeyCool:: Thanks NRCG and Klaas~ I thought it might be. I was truly shocked when I saw that note, not to be mean but my son could spell and write better than that in kindergarten ::MonkeyNoNo::


Klaas~I think everyone knows my theory about what happened and about why ron maried Misty, what's your take at this time ::MonkeyTongue::


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Post by: klaasend on August 27, 2009, 11:18:39 AM
::MonkeyCool:: Thanks NRCG and Klaas~ I thought it might be. I was truly shocked when I saw that note, not to be mean but my son could spell and write better than that in kindergarten ::MonkeyNoNo::


Klaas~I think everyone knows my theory about what happened and about why ron maried Misty, what's your take at this time ::MonkeyTongue::

IM - I'm not sure what to think.  I vacillate between thinking Misty is the only one who really knows to Misty knows but is covering for Ron.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 11:28:27 AM
::MonkeyCool:: Thanks NRCG and Klaas~ I thought it might be. I was truly shocked when I saw that note, not to be mean but my son could spell and write better than that in kindergarten ::MonkeyNoNo::


Klaas~I think everyone knows my theory about what happened and about why ron maried Misty, what's your take at this time ::MonkeyTongue::

IM - I'm not sure what to think.  I vacillate between thinking Misty is the only one who really knows to Misty knows but is covering for Ron.

Thanks~just curious what the general consensus is here on SM about the marriage. I saw a poll late last night on another forum and the same exact percentage of people who voted that Misty knew what happened that night also voted that she was covering for Ron.

Maybe would should do a poll  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: alagary on August 27, 2009, 11:31:55 AM
Heres some OT good news on a 17 year old case

http://www.nevadaappeal.com/article/20090827/NEWS/908279985/1070&ParentProfile=1058


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 11:35:51 AM
 ::MonkeyTongue::


http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/08/27/news/news01.txt


Searcher: Haleigh's stepmom didn't pass polygraph

By Kristin Chambers
Published: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:37 AM EDT
The 17-year-old babysitter who last saw missing child Haleigh Cummings recently failed her fourth lie detector test, a person close to the case says.

Misty Croslin-Cummings, who is now married to Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, requested to take the test independent of law enforcement and without the consent of her attorney.

Haleigh's family contacted Tim Miller, the founder of Texas Equusearch, to help arrange for three experts to conduct several tests. Croslin-Cummings was questioned about her activities on the night the girl disappeared.

"She failed miserably," Miller said.



Robert Fields, Croslin-Cummings' attorney, said he should have been contacted before Croslin underwent the tests.

"Everyone knew that she has an attorney, and I do have a big question about why they pursued it, knowing she had an attorney," Fields said Wednesday.

Croslin-Cummings signed a document she created stating she was voluntarily performing a polygraph test against the advice of her lawyer, Miller said.

However, Fields was told Croslin-Cummings felt she was pressured to do the test so searches for Haleigh by Equusearch would continue.

Miller said that is the opposite of what occurred.

"Absolutely not," Miller said. "They said it needed to be approved with the attorney, but she wrote a note and signed it to give herself permission."

Miller added that Croslin-Cummings knew she was undergoing tests against her attorney's advice, and wanted to do it anyway to clear her name.

"It's no excuse to pursue the course of action he did," Fields said. "It is my understanding that she was pressured, and she did not want to do it."

A voice stress analysis and a test involving a hypnotist were conducted in addition to the polygraph test.

Croslin failed all three, Miller said.

The recent tests, however, may have given investigators more information to follow up.

"There are certainly some statements that were made that were not made in previous interrogations with law enforcement," Miller said.

The tests were passed to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office and reviewed by investigators Tuesday.

Officers have said repeatedly that Croslin-Cummings is the crucial link to solving the child's disappearance, and that she "continues to hold important answers."

"It is what it is, exactly what we've already known," Capt. Dominic Piscitello said. "We still say she is the key to getting to the bottom of what happened to Haleigh."

Croslin-Cummings and Ronald Cummings have previously claimed that they each passed lie detector tests.

This is the fourth polygraph test Croslin has failed, Miller said.

Inconsistencies in Croslin-Cummings' stories have been cited by investigators on numerous occasions.

Miller said he will no longer involve himself in legalities.

"This certainly put me in an awkward position and it isn't a position I wanted to be put in," Miller said. "I need to focus on the searches."

The search for the missing 6-year-old will resume within six weeks through EquuSearch and the aid of law enforcement.

Miller said this is not an opportune time to conduct a search due to weather conditions and heavy underbrush, but another canvass will be made at the request of the family.

"Anything that is going to happen from now on is going to be extremely more difficult," he said.

An Amber Alert for the missing 6-year-old was issued Feb. 10 after she was reported missing by Croslin at 3:27 a.m.

A massive search ensued, involving helicopters, boats, canines and horseback units. No sign of the child was found.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office has followed more than 4,000 leads, with no person of interest in the case located.

Efforts to reach Croslin-Cummings for comment were unsuccessful Wednesday.

Croslin-Cummings has previously said she put Haleigh to bed about 8 p.m. on Feb. 9 and went to sleep herself two hours later. Croslin-Cummings said the child was gone when she awoke the next day at 3 a.m.

Ronald Cummings was working the night shift at a local industrial firm.

Both he and Haleigh's mother, Crystal Sheffield, are not considered suspects, authorities said.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 11:48:57 AM
  ::MonkeyEek:: Interesting article


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 11:53:35 AM
O/T................reagrding Tracy Ocasio:


Boot Found In Woods Could Belong To Missing Woman
Posted: 7:04 am EDT August 27, 2009
Updated: 11:45 am EDT August 27, 2009

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- A boot could be a new lead in the case of an Ocoee woman missing for three months. Wednesday night, investigators told Eyewitness News they found one boot in some woods in Ocoee two days ago that they believe belongs to Tracy Ocasio (see the boot).

Ocasio went missing three months ago. Police say the last person to see her was James Hataway. He is still being held in jail on unrelated charges.


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SEE THE BOOT: Large Image Of Boot Found
IMAGES: Search In Area Where Boot Was Found
VIDEO REPORT: Boot Found In Woods May Be Ocasio's
RAW VIDEO: Hataway Bond Hearing
READ: Hataway's Booking History
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"We have recently found a boot. The boot was found in the wood line after a recent search," said Sgt. Mike Bryant, Ocoee Police Department.

Orange County deputies on horseback were conducting routine training near Highway 50 and Bluford Avenue (see map) in Orange County when they stumbled across the boot.

"The boot was shown to the Ocasio family, who distributed [pictures] to her friends, asking, 'hey, did Tracy ever have a boot like this?,' and one of the friends said, 'yes.'" explained Sgt. Bryant.

Beginning Thursday, Florida Department of Law Enforcement laboratory investigators will spend a couple of days analyzing the boot found in the woods. They plan on testing the boot for DNA evidence that could link it to Ocasio.

On Wednesday night, police received a Crimeline tip that a body might be inside a freezer on an abandoned property off Avalon Road in west Orange County. However, when investigators searched it, all they found were animal bones in some bags (read report). The abandoned property was an animal farm where people would drop off their dying pets but it has not been in business for two years.

http://www.wftv.com/news/20578666/detail.html?treets=orlc&tml=orlc_12pm&ts=T&tmi=orlc_12pm_1_10500108272009


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 11:58:25 AM
Oh wow  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on August 27, 2009, 12:03:01 PM
Heres some OT good news on a 17 year old case

http://www.nevadaappeal.com/article/20090827/NEWS/908279985/1070&ParentProfile=1058

Thanks for the post, alagary. I was just about to post it, too. I thought of Haleigh when I heard the news hoping it might provide a glimmer of hope in this case.

Misty's note is curious to me. There's no way a diagnosis can be made based on a single small sample of writing, but I was struck with the cramped lettering style, variance of slant within a single word, and random use of capitals within a single sentence. Also interesting is the misuse of particular letter combinations. I used to tutor children who had been diagnosed with dyslexia, and I don't think I ever had a student above 4th grade that did not spell "taking" as "tacking". I don't know that it would be significant if Misty were dyslexic, but it's a fact that there's a higher incidence of genius within that population than occurs in the non-dyslexic population, and a high IQ is also more common.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Tams on August 27, 2009, 12:10:42 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/breaking/news-article.aspx?storyid=143952&catid=17


OMG, in this video Tim Miller  speaks and then Misty says ..." I thought it was a dream or something, seems like there was like 4 people"     then she is crying and saying 'why does every body think Im lying,   OMG........something is so wrong about all this.
Good Morning, WTH there was like 4 people. So 4 people that were family members, because correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't there be some DNA or something if it was 4 strangers. None of this makes sense.

Morning all -

Isn't that the truth Rosie - WTH?! So, is this her new angle on how to spill it all? . . . sob sob cry cry - "I don't know for sure - I must have still been tripping out from my wild weekend of excess drugs - someone must have given me some bad ___ (insert whatever drug here) - some of it's coming back to me now, like a bad dream or something" - waah waah waah . . . (of course said in hillbillyish). She is so used to coming up with excuses for her lies . . .

And, clearly, Tim Miller is NOT going to be the one person who is able to put her at ease & get her to talk . . . bummer. Ugh.

Agreed though - something in this simmering powder keg is going to explode . . . and someone's going to get hurt, I'm afraid.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 12:15:59 PM
I saw this on InSessions, what is this about?    Desecrating a candle site with filthy messages about Crystal.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 12:18:32 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/breaking/news-article.aspx?storyid=143952&catid=17


OMG, in this video Tim Miller  speaks and then Misty says ..." I thought it was a dream or something, seems like there was like 4 people"     then she is crying and saying 'why does every body think Im lying,   OMG........something is so wrong about all this.
Good Morning, WTH there was like 4 people. So 4 people that were family members, because correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't there be some DNA or something if it was 4 strangers. None of this makes sense.

Morning all -

Isn't that the truth Rosie - WTH?! So, is this her new angle on how to spill it all? . . . sob sob cry cry - "I don't know for sure - I must have still been tripping out from my wild weekend of excess drugs - someone must have given me some bad ___ (insert whatever drug here) - some of it's coming back to me now, like a bad dream or something" - waah waah waah . . . (of course said in hillbillyish). She is so used to coming up with excuses for her lies . . .

And, clearly, Tim Miller is NOT going to be the one person who is able to put her at ease & get her to talk . . . bummer. Ugh.

Agreed though - something in this simmering powder keg is going to explode . . . and someone's going to get hurt, I'm afraid.
One thought that crossed my mind when reading that, I wondered if someone slipped something in a drink of Mistys?   I'm thinking also that Misty also may have some learning disabilities, and maybe quit school out of frustration.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 27, 2009, 12:53:16 PM
http://www.bloggernews.net/122030

Haleigh Cummings Update: Misty Shocker Confirmed, Failed 4th Polygraph-Misty Never Went to Bed The Night Haleigh Vanished!Posted on August 27th, 2009 by Simon Barrett in crimeRead 163 times.This just in from TJ Hart. Parts of this story started to break last night, but we wanted to confirm a few things before going to press. It looks like the heat is again being turned up on Misty Cummings. 10 days ago the process started with the interestingly worded Press Release from the PCSO. Are these new developments the next step in bringing this case to a close? - Simon
What did happen the February night leading up to the abduction of 6-year-old Haleigh Cummings from her father’s home in Satsuma, Florida? Police say the last person to see her holds the key to the answer.

(snipped)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 27, 2009, 12:54:59 PM
For some reason the last couple days, I haven't been able to access the WFTV website.  Is anyone else having problems?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 01:02:47 PM
For some reason the last couple days, I haven't been able to access the WFTV website.  Is anyone else having problems?

Yes, when I clicked on it, nothing came up on the story I had a link to, so I went to news and found it there...........I get automated alerts from WFTV for some unknown reason ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 01:22:16 PM
I saw this on InSessions, what is this about?    Desecrating a candle site with filthy messages about Crystal.

From what I read there was a candle site for Crystal and people were lighting candles and leaving vile and nasty mesages there instead of supportive and compassionate ones.......Sad, while she waits to find out what happened to her baby (knowing that Misty has failed 4 poly's and a vsa test), she is trashed, not to mentiion she has to be worried sick about her son living in the he77 he is. She's a better person than me as I'd have come unglued many moons ago and been all over Misty and Ron ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 01:28:53 PM
 ::MonkeyTongue::

I wonder if he got this info directly from LE, is so........


 Beatnik Says:

August 27, 2009 at 5:54 am | Reply
If the bed was made, where was Jr sleeping? And why marry someone you knew was lying?

 Steph Says:  
August 27, 2009 at 2:27 pm | Reply
Good questions..In response to the marriage issue, Ronald claims he married misty to keep her close and try to get out of her what happened. Police think Ron married Misty becuase he was in fear of getting arrested for having sex with a minor, (remeber she’s only 17) and he believed if they were married she couldnt tesitfy against him…..


http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/26/police-misty-cummings-holds-the-key-to-haleigh-cummings-dissapearance/


He has had good sources before, I remember him mostly from Greta Van Susterns show.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 01:40:13 PM
I saw this on InSessions, what is this about?    Desecrating a candle site with filthy messages about Crystal.

From what I read there was a candle site for Crystal and people were lighting candles and leaving vile and nasty mesages there instead of supportive and compassionate ones.......Sad, while she waits to find out what happened to her baby (knowing that Misty has failed 4 poly's and a vsa test), she is trashed, not to mentiion she has to be worried sick about her son living in the he77 he is. She's a better person than me as I'd have come unglued many moons ago and been all over Misty and Ron ::MonkeyDevil2::
Oh wow, that's really bad. I would have come unglued also, no way Misty would be standing and partying.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 01:41:10 PM
::MonkeyTongue::

I wonder if he got this info directly from LE, is so........


 Beatnik Says:

August 27, 2009 at 5:54 am | Reply
If the bed was made, where was Jr sleeping? And why marry someone you knew was lying?

 Steph Says:  
August 27, 2009 at 2:27 pm | Reply
Good questions..In response to the marriage issue, Ronald claims he married misty to keep her close and try to get out of her what happened. Police think Ron married Misty becuase he was in fear of getting arrested for having sex with a minor, (remeber she’s only 17) and he believed if they were married she couldnt tesitfy against him…..


http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/26/police-misty-cummings-holds-the-key-to-haleigh-cummings-dissapearance/


He has had good sources before, I remember him mostly from Greta Van Susterns show.....
Interesting


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 27, 2009, 02:59:37 PM
Today at 3 is the hearing about Jr, if it don't go Ron's way.....

I guess it is too much to hope for the media to cover the hearing.  Or maybe because it involves a child, they are not allowed.  Either way, I hope they will release the results.

And you are right no rose.  I would hate to be around Ron if they rule against him in this.

And Good afternoon monkeys!   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 03:01:29 PM
Today at 3 is the hearing about Jr, if it don't go Ron's way.....

I guess it is too much to hope for the media to cover the hearing.  Or maybe because it involves a child, they are not allowed.  Either way, I hope they will release the results.

And you are right no rose.  I would hate to be around Ron if they rule against him in this.

And Good afternoon monkeys!   ::MonkeyAngel::
It's a closed hearing, but maybe we will hear something.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 27, 2009, 03:04:05 PM
Today at 3 is the hearing about Jr, if it don't go Ron's way.....

I guess it is too much to hope for the media to cover the hearing.  Or maybe because it involves a child, they are not allowed.  Either way, I hope they will release the results.

And you are right no rose.  I would hate to be around Ron if they rule against him in this.

And Good afternoon monkeys!   ::MonkeyAngel::
It's a closed hearing, but maybe we will hear something.

Thank you no rose.   ::MonkeyAngel::  I'll check back later to see if we get a report of the results. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 03:43:58 PM
 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

Just listened to the audio of Dominic Pisitello and TJ Hart, and oops I think Dominic slipped up when he was talking about Misty being the last one to see Haleigh ALIVE ::MonkeyTongue:: TJ Hart calls him on it and he repeats it, but says it means nothing ..............right, I believe that ::MonkeyNoNo::

 
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Haleigh Update: TES: Stepmom Misty Fails 4th Polygraph
AUDIO: PCSO Reacts to TES Claims That Haleigh's Stepmom Failed Polygraph 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Posted: Thursday, 27 August 2009 1:47PM

PCSO Reacts to TES Claims That Haleigh's Stepmom Failed Polygraph

TJ Hart

 
The Putnam County Sheriff's Office has confirmed to 97.3 The Sky they have received the polygraph test results from Texas EquuSearch indicating the last person to see missing 6-year-old Haleigh Cummings of Satsuma, Florida failed the test miserably.

Captain Dominic Piscitello spoke with The Sky Thursday to say the sheriff's office does have in its posession the results of the polygraph test Haleigh's then-babysitter-now-stepmother Misty Croslin-Cummings requested take despite the objection of her lawyer.

Piscitello says the results of the polygraph offer nothing suprising other than a couple more inconsistent stories concerning the timeline the night Haleigh was abducted from her father's home and in Misty's care on February 9, 2009.

AUDIO: Unedited Interveiw with Capt. Piscitello
 
 

http://www.thesky973.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 03:56:41 PM
Wow, thanks IM, interesting.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 04:03:44 PM
Wow, thanks IM, interesting.

I agree~I can't believe Piscitello (sp?) even agreed to be interviewed in tape..............that statement hit me as soon as he said it and must have done the same to TJ Hart because he followed up ASAP when he heard "last to be see her alive"  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 27, 2009, 04:15:23 PM
In case you can't listen to it on the Sky site, click on Haliegh's photo below:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/th_PSCORespondsMistyPoly.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/?action=view&current=PSCORespondsMistyPoly.flv)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 04:30:06 PM
Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 27, 2009, 04:56:55 PM

I haven't read back to see if this has already been posted, so forgive if I'm repeating, but Mike Galanos/HLN comes on in 5 minutes in my area.  He just said he will be discussing 4 major areas that Misty failed on her polygraph.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 05:01:57 PM

I haven't read back to see if this has already been posted, so forgive if I'm repeating, but Mike Galanos/HLN comes on in 5 minutes in my area.  He just said he will be discussing 4 major areas that Misty failed on her polygraph.

Thanks


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 27, 2009, 05:36:53 PM
don;t give up on Haleigh! as we are finding out...a girl has been found after being kidnapped over  18 years ago! miracles happen every day!

HLN was talking about Misty...Tim was on ....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 27, 2009, 05:39:28 PM

Is everyone watching, or do you want notes of the Haleigh stuff?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 27, 2009, 06:08:28 PM

Is everyone watching, or do you want notes of the Haleigh stuff?

Hi Bud's Girl!

I'd love a recap if that is possible. I could not watch it.

Thanks!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 06:08:55 PM

Is everyone watching, or do you want notes of the Haleigh stuff?

Hi Bud's Girl!

I'd love a recap if that is possible. I could not watch it.

Thanks!
Me too, thanks  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: alagary on August 27, 2009, 06:23:05 PM
that must be taped with the jacket on . Anyone know who the man with the gray sweater is ?  Sorry tape on HLN .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 27, 2009, 06:24:57 PM

Is everyone watching, or do you want notes of the Haleigh stuff?

Hi Bud's Girl!

I'd love a recap if that is possible. I could not watch it.

Thanks!

Hi Brandi  ... may not be anything new from what was posted earlier, but here are the notes I took:




Tim Miller said she failed the tests they gave her miserably.    Deception indicated; Putnam County LE stated not surprised at the results, and that Misty's consistency is inconsistency.
 
When Tim went back to search recently, Misty approached him & asked him to help her take a polygraph by someone else because she said she didn't trust LE there.
 
Tim says what should have been a 30 min polygraph turned out to be 5 1/2 hrs long.
 
When she was asked her to clarify some things, she stormed out of the room.
 
She came back to Tim crying & said it seemed like she was dreaming, she just couldn't remember things clearly.  Then she asked him if he could arrange for truth serum, hypnosis, and/or voice testing.  She couldn't afford to pay for all that, so TES paid for it.
 
Tim contacted TJ Ward (Natalee case) for the voice analysis.
 
He contacted a hypnotist who is retired New York LE.
 
Misty failed both written portion of test & voice analysis miserably.
 
One question asked of Misty;  Did you intentionally withhold any info regarding Haleigh's disappearance.  Misty's answer showed 99% deception.
 
A guest on the show, John Patrick Dolan, defense attny, says voice analysis is not reliable, and he'd like an interpretation of the 99% scoring, wants to know what that 99% means  (Bud's Girl says DUH / JMO)..   Says someone like Jack deMarco should look at the results before people go off saying things like she failed miserably.  Polygraph is only as reliable as the person giving it.   She needs to have her lawyer investigate the results.
 
TJ Hart interview by phone said it all offered nothing surprising, just a few more inconsistencies.
 
Question #2 Misty was asked:  Do you know who took Haleigh?    42% deception
 
The guy that Tim hired has been doing polygraphs since 1993.  He said the polygraphist told him his interpretation of the reading of Misty's answer to question number 2 was that there were 2 or more people involved in taking Haleigh out of the house, so Misty doesn't really know who took her to her final destination.
 
Misty's attorney issued a statement saying the polygraph was done w/o him knowing it.  Tim agrees that's true, talked to him on phone & then told Misty that she had put him in a really bad spot by not informing her attorney.
 
Misty's attorney says he told Tim to leave her alone after the polygraph & after that the other tests (voice & hypnosis) were done.  Tim says that's false but didn't explain further because the interview was stopped at this point to go to commercial, and they changed to different story after commercial. I don't know if they're coming back to Tim or not.  Nothing said about the hypnosis, but I was trying to speed read backwards on the forum right before Mike Galanos started earlier & I think it was stated that she resisted being put under so they couldn't do the hypnosis.  (Bud's Girl says fear of loss of control over what she might say would cause that. - JMO)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 27, 2009, 06:32:31 PM
Voice Expert: Misty Cummings Knows More than She's Saying

Dave Wax     Created: 8/27/2009 2:48:12 PM    Updated: 8/27/2009 5:13:08 PM


PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- A day after a report surfaced that Misty Cummings had failed a lie detector test, another expert told First Coast News it doesn't look good for Misty.

Today, T.J. Ward, a voice analysis expert who performed one of the tests on Misty, said, quite directly, "She's got knowledge about who took the baby."

Misty Cummings, 17, is the wife of Ronald Cummings, whose daughter Haleigh disappeared from Ronald Cummings' home in February and hasn't been seen since.

Misty has said that she was home alone with Haleigh and Haleigh's brother at the time.

Law enforcement officials throughout Putnam County have been searching for Haleigh ever since, and have repeatedly said Misty's account of the evening in question has been "sketchy" and her stories have been riddled with inconsistencies.

Yesterday, we reported that Misty said she wanted to clear her name, so she agreed to a series of tests, which she failed.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/breaking/news-article.aspx?storyid=144006&catid=17


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 06:34:27 PM
Thank-you Bud's Girl you take great notes  ::MonkeyCool::           Mike Galanos read a statement from Misty`s lawyer saying that Teresa, Sykes and Ron all confirmed to him (the lawyer) that Tim Miller said he would not look for Haleigh unless she took these tests.
Tim was about to answer to this and he was cut off!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 27, 2009, 06:36:23 PM
Here's a report of all the questions they asked her:


JACKSONVILLE, FL -- First Coast News has learned what questions were asked of Misty Cummings in her recent polygraph test, and how she replied. The results indicated she failed the test.

Speaking with First Coast News by phone Wednesday afternoon, Tim Miller with Texas Equusearch told us the details of the polygraph interview.

Here are the four questions Miller says were asked to Misty on August 19, followed by her answer and the polygraph result:

Question: Did you intentionally withhold any information regarding Haleigh's disappearance?
Answer: No
Result: 99% deception

Question: Do you know what happened to Haleigh?
Answer: No
Result: 99% deception

Question: Do you know where Haleigh is now?
Answer: No
Result: 95% Deception

Question: Do you know who took Haleigh?
Answer: No
Result: 42% deception

Miller says he was confused by the 42% result, but a polygraph expert who spoke with Miller says that could mean there were multiple people involved, and that something may have happened inside the house that prevented Misty from knowing which person took her away.

Miller goes on to say Misty cried at the results, then stormed out of the room. That's when he says he spoke with Misty, who begged him to let her undergo hypnosis and voice analysis.


©2009 First Coast News. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, rewritten, or redistributed.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=143962&provider=top


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 27, 2009, 06:38:04 PM
Thank-you Bud's Girl you take great notes  ::MonkeyCool::           Mike Galanos read a statement from Misty`s lawyer saying that Teresa, Sykes and Ron all confirmed to him (the lawyer) that Tim Miller said he would not look for Haleigh unless she took these tests.
Tim was about to answer to this and he was cut off!

You're welcome.

I forgot to include that part, but I remember that too! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 06:39:52 PM
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I don't have all of the details yet, but therapy/counseling was ordered weekly by the judge at today's hearing. This information came from a local who was outside of the courtroom. 
(Posted at WS)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 27, 2009, 06:41:00 PM
Thank-you Bud's Girl you take great notes  ::MonkeyCool::           Mike Galanos read a statement from Misty`s lawyer saying that Teresa, Sykes and Ron all confirmed to him (the lawyer) that Tim Miller said he would not look for Haleigh unless she took these tests.
Tim was about to answer to this and he was cut off!

Yes! Thanks. Great note-taking there, Bud's Girl! Appreciate it. There was some new info there as well.

Now that stinks, No Rose. I so hate it when they cut people off when there is an important issue at stake. Happens all the time. Usually on JVM or NG though.

Grrrr.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 06:43:58 PM
Thank-you Bud's Girl you take great notes  ::MonkeyCool::           Mike Galanos read a statement from Misty`s lawyer saying that Teresa, Sykes and Ron all confirmed to him (the lawyer) that Tim Miller said he would not look for Haleigh unless she took these tests.
Tim was about to answer to this and he was cut off!

Yes! Thanks. Great note-taking there, Bud's Girl! Appreciate it. There was some new info there as well.

Now that stinks, No Rose. I so hate it when they cut people off when there is an important issue at stake. Happens all the time. Usually on JVM or NG though.

Grrrr.


It's rude, and it always seems to be when it is a good question, and you want to hear the answer, and the person is cut off.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 06:47:44 PM
Great Notes BG~I thought Tim answered absolutely no to the question about whether or not he stated that he wouldn't search unless she took the poly........

I wish it would repeat or someone else could verify this, but I swear I thought that's what Tim said before he was cut off.

IF that was what I heard, my heart goes out to Tim as "no good deed goes unpunished", if he said that wasn't true and now TN, RC and MC are saying he did say that, well considering the sources I'm going with Tim ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 06:50:07 PM
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I don't have all of the details yet, but therapy/counseling was ordered weekly by the judge at today's hearing. This information came from a local who was outside of the courtroom. 
(Posted at WS)

Thank God if that's true, it's just a shame she had to go to court to get him into counseling  ::MonkeyNoNo::
 





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 06:50:34 PM
Great Notes BG~I thought Tim answered absolutely no to the question about whether or not he stated that he wouldn't search unless she took the poly........

I wish it would repeat or someone else could verify this, but I swear I thought that's what Tim said before he was cut off.

IF that was what I heard, my heart goes out to Tim as "no good deed goes unpunished", if he said that wasn't true and now TN, RC and MC are saying he did say that, well considering the sources I'm going with Tim ::MonkeyTongue::
I didn't hear him, but I will go with what Tim said. Frankly my big question for the day is why hasn't Misty been thrown out of the house, why are the Cummings still protecting her?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 06:51:23 PM
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I don't have all of the details yet, but therapy/counseling was ordered weekly by the judge at today's hearing. This information came from a local who was outside of the courtroom. 
(Posted at WS)

Thank God if that's true, it's just a shame she had to go to court to get him into counseling  ::MonkeyNoNo::
 




I sure hope it is true, and the person that posted that is pretty reliable, but we shall see.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 27, 2009, 06:54:21 PM

IM ... that whole part did repeat, but I got distracted & missed it.   I didn't hear Tim say no, but sometimes when they talk over each other, it's easy to miss things.  Maybe someone else caught that part.

Maybe Misty will remember who all the other people are that she "dreamed" seeing that night.   :roll:


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: JessStar on August 27, 2009, 06:55:57 PM
Rose, the answer to your question "why are the cummings still protecting misty" I believe can be found in the old saying, "you keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer." They know she holds the keys. So why would they throw her out?  Jmho


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 07:03:22 PM

IM ... that whole part did repeat, but I got distracted & missed it.   I didn't hear Tim say no, but sometimes when they talk over each other, it's easy to miss things.  Maybe someone else caught that part.

Maybe Misty will remember who all the other people are that she "dreamed" seeing that night.   :roll:


OK~I thought I heard that right

NRCG


The only answer that works for me (especially considering it's been 6 1/2 months ) is that she is covering for Ron in some capacity...........I personally don't buy that he's doing it to keep tabs on her or to keep enemies close (JMO), I think we've all seen a taste of his temper and if he knew she did something to Haleigh, I honestly believe he'd have "taken care" of the problem by now. Frankly, if I knew someone hurt my child (and it happened to me regarding my son), it would be all I could do not to beat them or kill them. Once when I saw my son's perp I literally considered running him over with the car because my rage was thru the roof, and I even had the kids in the car when this thought crossed my mind. Thank God I've never seen him since. I just don't think most parent, especially one with some anger issues would be able to control themselves for a minute much less 6 1/2 months. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 07:05:58 PM
 ::MonkeyBike::

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=144010&catid=3

Misty Cummings: 'They're Trying to Pinpoint Me'
 Dave Wax  Gary Detman  Jessica Clark     Created: 8/27/2009 4:06:25 PM    Updated: 8/27/2009 6:44:14 PM
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PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- The one person police believe holds the key in the case of Haleigh Cummings spoke to First Coast News this afternoon.

Misty Cummings, the wife of Haleigh's father Ronald, told First Coast News, "I feel like they're trying to pinpoint me because they cannot find the right person."

Police say her story is "sketchy," and she underwent a series of tests recently to clear her name, but reportedly failed them all.

Haleigh's maternal grandmother, Marie Griffis, also spoke with First Coast News Thursday about yesterday's revelation that Misty Cummings, the wife of Haleigh's father Ronald, had recently failed a series of tests she wanted to take to clear her name.

First Coast News broke the story about the failed tests Wednesday afternoon.

REPORT: MISTY CROSLIN MISERABLY FAILED POLYGRAPH

Griffis says that only confirms what she already thought, that Misty knows more than she's letting on about what happened the night Haleigh disappeared from Ronald Cummings' home in Satsuma.

Griffis also said she thinks Ronald Cummings should be tested, as she believes he also knows more than he's saying.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office has said Ronald Cummings is not a suspect, but investigators do feel that Misty knows more than she's saying.

Misty Cummings told First Coast News said Tim Miller of Texas EquuSearch told her if she did not agree to take the polygraph, voice analysis test, and undergo hypnosis, he would not search for Haleigh.

She said she only agreed to take the tests because she wanted Miller to search for Haleigh. She also said she did not want to take the tests because her attorney told her not too.

Misty Cummings told First Coast News she and her husband will have nothing more to do with Tim Miller or with Mark NeJame. He is the attorney who agreed to work with the Cummings last week in the search for Haleigh.Misty Cummings said she feels they lied to her.

Miller said Misty Cummings wanted to take the tests and came to him asking for help to clear her name.

Miller said he will still do a ground search for Haleigh in Putnam County




Like I said NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED.............Tim Miller was the best thing they had and not they are bashing him ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 07:13:45 PM
Misty Cummings told First Coast News she and her husband will have nothing more to do with Tim Miller or with Mark NeJame. He is the attorney who agreed to work with the Cummings last week in the search for Haleigh.Misty Cummings said she feels they lied to her.
(They don't want their help, so my question is answered. In my eyes if you really loved and wanted Haleigh found, you would take their help. And I also don't believe for a second that Ron is keeping her close to get answers, I flirted with that idea for awhile, but that's gone  ::MonkeyMad::)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 07:22:31 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=144010&catid=3

Video on this site I missed earlier.




 ::MonkeyWaa::  Poor Crystal couldn't even speak


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 07:23:37 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=144010&catid=3

Video on this site I missed earlier.




 ::MonkeyWaa::  Poor Crystal couldn't even speak
Thank-you


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 07:36:59 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=144010&catid=3

Video on this site I missed earlier.




 ::MonkeyWaa::  Poor Crystal couldn't even speak
Thank-you


Were you able to listen to it?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 07:41:07 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=144010&catid=3

Video on this site I missed earlier.




 ::MonkeyWaa::  Poor Crystal couldn't even speak
Thank-you


Were you able to listen to it?
Yes, I sure did.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 07:45:16 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=144010&catid=3

Video on this site I missed earlier.




 ::MonkeyWaa::  Poor Crystal couldn't even speak
Thank-you


Were you able to listen to it?
Yes, I sure did.

Did I hear Marie use the word "closure"?????


On JVM now........... ::MonkeyCheer3::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 27, 2009, 07:46:34 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=144010&catid=3

Video on this site I missed earlier.




 ::MonkeyWaa::  Poor Crystal couldn't even speak
Thank-you


Were you able to listen to it?
Yes, I sure did.

Did I hear Marie use the word "closure"?????


On JVM now........... ::MonkeyCheer3::



She did say closure. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 07:46:43 PM
August 27, 2009
Prime News

YouTube - Prime News 8/27/09 Misty Cummings Part 2
YouTube - Prime News 8/27/09 Misty Cummings Part 3
YouTube - Prime News 8/27/09 Misty Cummings Part 4


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 07:49:01 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=144010&catid=3

Video on this site I missed earlier.




 ::MonkeyWaa::  Poor Crystal couldn't even speak
Thank-you


Were you able to listen to it?
Yes, I sure did.

Did I hear Marie use the word "closure"?????


On JVM now........... ::MonkeyCheer3::



She did say closure. 

That's what I thought, I guess it has to have crossed their minds by now that she may be gone and just wnat her found. I'm AM SO PISSED right now, are they another Anthony family - every one of them down to GGM ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 27, 2009, 07:50:22 PM
Prime News.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4M2QcSonfE&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zijKI3AmfI&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5UrdgQUjsU&feature=channel_page


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 07:51:11 PM
Prime News.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4M2QcSonfE&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zijKI3AmfI&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5UrdgQUjsU&feature=channel_page

Thanks, I frucked that one up  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 27, 2009, 07:51:33 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=144010&catid=3

Video on this site I missed earlier.




 ::MonkeyWaa::  Poor Crystal couldn't even speak
Thank-you


Were you able to listen to it?
Yes, I sure did.

Did I hear Marie use the word "closure"?????


On JVM now........... ::MonkeyCheer3::



She did say closure. 

That's what I thought, I guess it has to have crossed their minds by now that she may be gone and just wnat her found. I'm AM SO PISSED right now, are they another Anthony family - every one of them down to GGM ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

I know IM,it makes me mad too.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 27, 2009, 07:52:50 PM
IM,I don't know how we keep any of it straight.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 07:54:49 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=144010&catid=3

Video on this site I missed earlier.




 ::MonkeyWaa::  Poor Crystal couldn't even speak
Thank-you


Were you able to listen to it?
Yes, I sure did.

Did I hear Marie use the word "closure"?????


On JVM now........... ::MonkeyCheer3::



She did say closure. 

That's what I thought, I guess it has to have crossed their minds by now that she may be gone and just wnat her found. I'm AM SO PISSED right now, are they another Anthony family - every one of them down to GGM ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

I know IM,it makes me mad too.   ::MonkeyMad::

I just don't get why someone on the paternal side of Haleigh's family won't step up to the plate and get to the bottom of all this, unless like the Anthony's they already know. I don't think I can take another case like these where the family is unwilling to do what's right for a precious child. AND, I'm mad that they try to throw Tim Miller under the bus just like the Anthonys, WTF is their a damn playbook out now on how to impede an investigation and sidetrack it completely ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 07:57:42 PM
Voice Expert Says Misty Cummings Knows Who Took Haleigh
 Jackelyn Barnard  Taren Reed     Created: 8/27/2009 6:32:37 PM    Updated: 8/27/2009 7:36:15 PM
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JACKSONVILLE, FL -- A voice analysis expert says Misty Cummings knows something about the disappearance of her step-daughter, Haleigh.

T.J. Ward met with Misty this week. Ward says the 17-year-old signed an agreement to take a layered voice analysis test. He says she wanted to take it to help clear her name.

"She was not pressured. She was on the phone with me and asked if I'd come to Florida," says Ward.

Ward is a voice analysis expert based in Atlanta. He says the test is much like a polygraph except it is better. He says instead of just getting yes and no answers, like with a polygraph, a voice test allows him to get more in depth and have a conversation.

He says the analysis allows him to pick up on stresses and untruths. "I think she is lying...I don't know who she is covering for," says Ward.He says he believes Misty knows who took Haleigh.
 
The test, which happened on Monday, lasted about 24 minutes. Misty now says she was pressured to take it.

"That's totally untrue. I was with her four of five hours, there was no pressure."

Ward says a polygraph is about 50 percent accurate and a voice test is about 95 percent accurate.

Read More

Report: Misty Miserably Failed Polygraph

Putnam Sheriff: Croslin-Cummings Account 'Sketchy'

CLICK HERE to read more about the polygraph, including the questions and answers.

CLICK HERE to read Misty's letter and documentation.

Misty's 30 Hours of Interviews Show Inconsistencies

Read: Full Coverage of Search for Haleigh

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=144024&catid=3


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 27, 2009, 08:13:19 PM
Haleigh case on NG   right now.............I think its not gonna be long now and something is gonna blow wide open...........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 08:15:34 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Exclusive-Misty-Croslin-Cummings-polygraph-tapes/j7-bWzHuekSLPlWFcKCkhA.cspx


Exclusive: Misty Croslin-Cummings’ polygraph tapes released    ::MonkeyDevil2::

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ORLANDO, Fla. -- What started as the opportunity to clear her name may have backfired for the stepmother of missing six-year-old Haleigh Cummings. Action News is the first local station to get exclusive access to polygraph tests she took in mid-August.

 

The Texas based search and recovery group Equusearch was contacted by Misty’s family. The group says Misty contacted them so they could conduct polygraph tests which would clear her of any wrongdoing in the disappearance of Haleigh. Equusearch assigned three different independent investigators to perform three different tests: a polygraph test, voice analysis, and hypnosis. After the tests were completed, Equusearch says Misty “miserably failed” the polygraph.

 

Misty’s lawyer advised she not take the polygraph tests because the group Equusearch was not affiliated with any law enforcement agency, and she had already submitted to several polygraphs under the supervision of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office. In a handwritten note dated August 19, Misty explains why she decided to take the test:

 

“I Misty Cummings have an attorney named Robert Fields. He told me not to take this polygraph. I am taking it anyway. I am taking it because I want to clear my name.”

 

The following are excerpts from the voice analysis portion of the tests Misty submitted herself to. They were taken in a small room while Misty sat at a table, and the investigator sat behind a computer. In the beginning, Misty looks composed and even smiles and laughs at times. But as the questions get more in depth, Misty can be seen breaking down and crying. The following are verbatim statements made by the investigator and Misty taken at various times during the 20 minute interview:

 

Investigator: How do you know Haleigh?

Misty: I know her because she’s my husband’s daughter.

Investigator: How long have you known Haleigh?

Misty: A year.

Investigator: I want to back up to February 9th, before you went to sleep, you were at the trailer?

Misty: Yes sir.

Investigator: And Haleigh was at the trailer and you went to bed?

Misty: Yes sir.

Investigator: Okay, tell me about that evening.

Misty: Umm…Well, Ronald woke up, we got her <Haleigh> ready for school…she didn’t have the clothes she wanted to wear so we had to come all the way to Welaka to get the outfit she wanted to wear. We took her to school, I walked her into the school, took her to her classroom…we come home, we leave the school, we come home, we probably go back to sleep till probably 11 or 12, I don’t know what time it was. Um, then Ronald gets up and gets ready for work. He picks Haleigh up from the bus stop I stay at home with Junior because he was sleeping…then Ronald goes off to work and um, the AC guy comes over. He comes over and my brother comes over to the house. And the kids played in the front yard. Haleigh was riding her bike doing wheelies in the front yard.

Investigator: You said your brother came over, which brother?

Misty: Hank Croslin Junior. Then they went inside, they watched movies, and they played…I cooked dinner and I washed the blankets, my blanket and Haleigh’s blanket…Haleigh’s blanket smells like pee…

 

Misty: I laid her down at 8 o’clock…it’s her bed time…8 o’clock…

Investigator: What room in the house was she in?

Misty: My bedroom…the master bedroom…

Investigator: Where were you sleeping?

Misty: Master bedroom.

Investigator: So you were in the room with her?

Misty: Yes.

Investigator: When you went to bed she was in there?

Misty: Yes sir…

Investigator: Okay…and what happened after that?

Misty:  I went to sleep.

 

Misty: All I remember seeing on the clock is 3…I didn’t look at the clock like, it’s on the table next to the bed, and just glanced over and seen 3…Ronald got home…he was home at 3:24 I do believe…that’s what time he arrived at the house…3:24…the cops were called at 3:27…so I don’t know exactly the time it was 3 something I woke up at..

Investigator: Did you hear somebody in the house?

Misty: I don’t know why I woke up, I just woke up out of a deep sleep…just woke up.

Investigator: And what happened when you woke up, what did you notice?

 

Misty: The kitchen light was on…from where my bedroom is, the kitchen, all the lights were shut off when I went to bed…that kitchen light I knew was off when I went to sleep, so the kitchen light was just glaring into my bedroom. So I got up and went to the kitchen, that’s when I noticed the back door was open...the screen door is held open by a big concrete block…I started freaking out then. I didn’t know Haleigh was gone yet. So I run back into my bedroom and grab my phone to call Ronald to ask him like hey, did you come home and leave the back door open? Because I was freaking out the back door’s open with kids, freaking out already, then I run back and tried to call him, and that’s when she was gone….then I just start freaking out…looking under closets, beds, everywhere screaming her name…couldn’t find her.

Investigator: When did you start getting excited?

Misty: What do you mean?

Investigator: At what point did you start freaking out?

Misty: Right after I noticed she was gone. Freaking out.

 

Investigator: Do you know anything at all about Haleigh going missing?

Misty: Nothing at all about Haleigh going missing.

Investigator: Do you know of any person that would bother Haleigh?

Misty: I really didn’t know a lot of people---I have suspicions yea…

Investigator: What do you think happened?

Misty: I don’t know what happened, I think maybe, if they come in, her mother’s side of the family they come and got her because they didn’t want to pay child support…or if it was someone else like I keep hearing a lot of stuff about my brother.

 

Investigator: You have knowledge to the person who’s taken Haleigh. You need to think and tell me the truth---because I can see changes okay---

Misty: Yea! I’m trying to think, I’ve been thinking for six months…I don’t know…I don’t know if I’ve seen something in my sleep.

Investigator: There are things you’re not telling me…I can see it…there’s things going on with you about Haleigh that you’re not telling…

Misty: There’s nothing I’m not telling nobody…I’ve told everybody everything that I know…I don’t know what you’re trying to get out of me. I’m 17-years-old…I mean come on…how much can a 17-year-old take?  I didn’t have nothing to do with her…I love that little girl more than anything…I’d never hurt her…If I knew who hurt her I’d tell…we’re not talking about a grownup we’re talking about a child.

 

Investigator: Tell me about how your home life was when you were growing up?
Misty: It was terrible…I have been in and out of houses, lived in cars, had drug addicts as parents…my life has been bad my whole life…and it’s just not going to get better it looks like.

 

Misty goes on to talk about abuse she endured as a child at the hands of a family member. She also pointed fingers at several other people she thinks may have been responsible for Haleigh’s disappearance.

 

After viewing the tapes, Action News spoke with Major Gary Bowling of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office. He says his office has viewed the tapes and the results of the polygraph tests and says they all solidify what his agency has been saying from the beginning. He says Misty’s story has been inconsistent from the beginning. He also says the results of these polygraphs do not advance or back this case up. He says it merely brings light to the fact that Misty may know more about Haleigh’s disappearance than she’s letting on.

 

According to the documents released from the polygraph tests, the conclusion the investigator came up with is that there was “deception indicated.” The examiner said in the documents that there was, “significant and consistent physiological reactions to each of the relevant questions.”

 

Neither Misty nor Ronald Cummings would comment on the results of the polygraphs. When Action News called their home, someone there said under the advice of their lawyer, neither would be speaking with the media about the results.
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 08:17:53 PM
IM,I don't know how we keep any of it straight.   ::MonkeyHaHa::
Did I hear Marie use the word "closure"?????   Yes, I heard it also. And yes, how do we keep this insanity all straight?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 08:19:32 PM
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Exclusive: Misty Croslin-Cummings’ polygraph tapes released    ::MonkeyDevil2::

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ORLANDO, Fla. -- What started as the opportunity to clear her name may have backfired for the stepmother of missing six-year-old Haleigh Cummings. Action News is the first local station to get exclusive access to polygraph tests she took in mid-August.

 

The Texas based search and recovery group Equusearch was contacted by Misty’s family. The group says Misty contacted them so they could conduct polygraph tests which would clear her of any wrongdoing in the disappearance of Haleigh. Equusearch assigned three different independent investigators to perform three different tests: a polygraph test, voice analysis, and hypnosis. After the tests were completed, Equusearch says Misty “miserably failed” the polygraph.

 

Misty’s lawyer advised she not take the polygraph tests because the group Equusearch was not affiliated with any law enforcement agency, and she had already submitted to several polygraphs under the supervision of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office. In a handwritten note dated August 19, Misty explains why she decided to take the test:

 

“I Misty Cummings have an attorney named Robert Fields. He told me not to take this polygraph. I am taking it anyway. I am taking it because I want to clear my name.”

 

The following are excerpts from the voice analysis portion of the tests Misty submitted herself to. They were taken in a small room while Misty sat at a table, and the investigator sat behind a computer. In the beginning, Misty looks composed and even smiles and laughs at times. But as the questions get more in depth, Misty can be seen breaking down and crying. The following are verbatim statements made by the investigator and Misty taken at various times during the 20 minute interview:

 

Investigator: How do you know Haleigh?

Misty: I know her because she’s my husband’s daughter.

Investigator: How long have you known Haleigh?

Misty: A year.

Investigator: I want to back up to February 9th, before you went to sleep, you were at the trailer?

Misty: Yes sir.

Investigator: And Haleigh was at the trailer and you went to bed?

Misty: Yes sir.

Investigator: Okay, tell me about that evening.

Misty: Umm…Well, Ronald woke up, we got her <Haleigh> ready for school…she didn’t have the clothes she wanted to wear so we had to come all the way to Welaka to get the outfit she wanted to wear. We took her to school, I walked her into the school, took her to her classroom…we come home, we leave the school, we come home, we probably go back to sleep till probably 11 or 12, I don’t know what time it was. Um, then Ronald gets up and gets ready for work. He picks Haleigh up from the bus stop I stay at home with Junior because he was sleeping…then Ronald goes off to work and um, the AC guy comes over. He comes over and my brother comes over to the house. And the kids played in the front yard. Haleigh was riding her bike doing wheelies in the front yard.

Investigator: You said your brother came over, which brother?

Misty: Hank Croslin Junior. Then they went inside, they watched movies, and they played…I cooked dinner and I washed the blankets, my blanket and Haleigh’s blanket…Haleigh’s blanket smells like pee…

 

Misty: I laid her down at 8 o’clock…it’s her bed time…8 o’clock…

Investigator: What room in the house was she in?

Misty: My bedroom…the master bedroom…

Investigator: Where were you sleeping?

Misty: Master bedroom.

Investigator: So you were in the room with her?

Misty: Yes.

Investigator: When you went to bed she was in there?

Misty: Yes sir…

Investigator: Okay…and what happened after that?

Misty:  I went to sleep.

 

Misty: All I remember seeing on the clock is 3…I didn’t look at the clock like, it’s on the table next to the bed, and just glanced over and seen 3…Ronald got home…he was home at 3:24 I do believe…that’s what time he arrived at the house…3:24…the cops were called at 3:27…so I don’t know exactly the time it was 3 something I woke up at..

Investigator: Did you hear somebody in the house?

Misty: I don’t know why I woke up, I just woke up out of a deep sleep…just woke up.

Investigator: And what happened when you woke up, what did you notice?

 

Misty: The kitchen light was on…from where my bedroom is, the kitchen, all the lights were shut off when I went to bed…that kitchen light I knew was off when I went to sleep, so the kitchen light was just glaring into my bedroom. So I got up and went to the kitchen, that’s when I noticed the back door was open...the screen door is held open by a big concrete block…I started freaking out then. I didn’t know Haleigh was gone yet. So I run back into my bedroom and grab my phone to call Ronald to ask him like hey, did you come home and leave the back door open? Because I was freaking out the back door’s open with kids, freaking out already, then I run back and tried to call him, and that’s when she was gone….then I just start freaking out…looking under closets, beds, everywhere screaming her name…couldn’t find her.

Investigator: When did you start getting excited?

Misty: What do you mean?

Investigator: At what point did you start freaking out?

Misty: Right after I noticed she was gone. Freaking out.

 

Investigator: Do you know anything at all about Haleigh going missing?

Misty: Nothing at all about Haleigh going missing.

Investigator: Do you know of any person that would bother Haleigh?

Misty: I really didn’t know a lot of people---I have suspicions yea…

Investigator: What do you think happened?

Misty: I don’t know what happened, I think maybe, if they come in, her mother’s side of the family they come and got her because they didn’t want to pay child support…or if it was someone else like I keep hearing a lot of stuff about my brother.






HH~I'm about ready for a road trip..............you willing ::MonkeyDevil2::

Investigator: You have knowledge to the person who’s taken Haleigh. You need to think and tell me the truth---because I can see changes okay---

Misty: Yea! I’m trying to think, I’ve been thinking for six months…I don’t know…I don’t know if I’ve seen something in my sleep.

Investigator: There are things you’re not telling me…I can see it…there’s things going on with you about Haleigh that you’re not telling…

Misty: There’s nothing I’m not telling nobody…I’ve told everybody everything that I know…I don’t know what you’re trying to get out of me. I’m 17-years-old…I mean come on…how much can a 17-year-old take?  I didn’t have nothing to do with her…I love that little girl more than anything…I’d never hurt her…If I knew who hurt her I’d tell…we’re not talking about a grownup we’re talking about a child.

 

Investigator: Tell me about how your home life was when you were growing up?
Misty: It was terrible…I have been in and out of houses, lived in cars, had drug addicts as parents…my life has been bad my whole life…and it’s just not going to get better it looks like.

 

Misty goes on to talk about abuse she endured as a child at the hands of a family member. She also pointed fingers at several other people she thinks may have been responsible for Haleigh’s disappearance.

 

After viewing the tapes, Action News spoke with Major Gary Bowling of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office. He says his office has viewed the tapes and the results of the polygraph tests and says they all solidify what his agency has been saying from the beginning. He says Misty’s story has been inconsistent from the beginning. He also says the results of these polygraphs do not advance or back this case up. He says it merely brings light to the fact that Misty may know more about Haleigh’s disappearance than she’s letting on.

 

According to the documents released from the polygraph tests, the conclusion the investigator came up with is that there was “deception indicated.” The examiner said in the documents that there was, “significant and consistent physiological reactions to each of the relevant questions.”

 

Neither Misty nor Ronald Cummings would comment on the results of the polygraphs. When Action News called their home, someone there said under the advice of their lawyer, neither would be speaking with the media about the results.
 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 08:23:23 PM
Thanks IM, I see Misty is trying to throw the mother's side and her brother under the bus  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 08:26:42 PM
Thanks IM, I see Misty is trying to throw the mother's side and her brother under the bus  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Color me surprised  ::MonkeyTongue:: N O T!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also pulling the "I'm only 17 card", yeah, well biatch you were too yound, immature and drugged out to be taking care of precious children you slore. ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 08:32:41 PM
Thanks IM, I see Misty is trying to throw the mother's side and her brother under the bus  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I just watched the video portion of the VSA test and I swear I heard her say towards the end when she was crying, "I have nothing to do with that little girl", and "If i knew who did this to her I WOULDN'T tell"...............If I heard correctly it could have been freudian slips but would appreciate someone else's take on the video at that link ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 08:33:01 PM
Thanks IM, I see Misty is trying to throw the mother's side and her brother under the bus  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Color me surprised  ::MonkeyTongue:: N O T!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also pulling the "I'm only 17 card", yeah, well biatch you were too yound, immature and drugged out to be taking care of precious children you slore. ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::
You bet, I'm really angry over this turn of events today. No way should she be watching kids.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 27, 2009, 08:34:50 PM
Im ready anytime IM, just let me know and we are on the way,  ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::  we will be the next ones taking a ride to the Putnam County Jail.......lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 08:36:52 PM
 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
 

I need a frucking valium now, I appreciate Mark Klaas but for him to say that Tim is exploiting this situation pisses me off to no end, he needs to shut the fruk up!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyNoNo::
This child is missing and most likely dead, and he's worried about Tim administering a polygraph????????????? Come on where are your priorities. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 08:37:50 PM
Im ready anytime IM, just let me know and we are on the way,  ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::  we will be the next ones taking a ride to the Putnam County Jail.......lol

I'm good with that too ::MonkeyBike:: I think we can get good ole Chuck to bail us out ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 08:39:44 PM
Thanks IM, I see Misty is trying to throw the mother's side and her brother under the bus  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I just watched the video portion of the VSA test and I swear I heard her say towards the end when she was crying, "I have nothing to do with that little girl", and "If i knew who did this to her I WOULDN'T tell"...............If I heard correctly it could have been freudian slips but would appreciate someone else's take on the video at that link ::MonkeyNoNo::
I just listened to one of the links, but it was the wrong one, if you would give me the link I will listen  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 27, 2009, 08:40:56 PM
Thanks IM, I see Misty is trying to throw the mother's side and her brother under the bus  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I just watched the video portion of the VSA test and I swear I heard her say towards the end when she was crying, "I have nothing to do with that little girl", and "If i knew who did this to her I WOULDN'T tell"...............If I heard correctly it could have been freudian slips but would appreciate someone else's take on the video at that link ::MonkeyNoNo::
  Is this a link to the actual polygraph?   if so could you give me the link please, and yea, these people need to get off Tim;s case, he did what Misty asked him to do and I dont for one second think he said for her to do it or he wouldnt search, thats bull, Misty lies and thats all she does, Tim is gonna search anyway, what is she trying to do with all these lies...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 27, 2009, 08:46:33 PM
Misty Cummings told First Coast News she and her husband will have nothing more to do with Tim Miller or with Mark NeJame. He is the attorney who agreed to work with the Cummings last week in the search for Haleigh.Misty Cummings said she feels they lied to her.
(They don't want their help, so my question is answered. In my eyes if you really loved and wanted Haleigh found, you would take their help. And I also don't believe for a second that Ron is keeping her close to get answers, I flirted with that idea for awhile, but that's gone  ::MonkeyMad::)

OMG this has gone on way too long!! SOMEONE MAKE HER TALK!!!!!!! ACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!! (http://bestsmileys.com/angry1/5.gif)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 27, 2009, 08:47:04 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 08:48:12 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Exclusive-Misty-Croslin-Cummings-polygraph-tapes/j7-bWzHuekSLPlWFcKCkhA.cspx




Here is the link from the article upthread and there is also a video here...........sorry for the delay, someone rang the doorbell right in the middle if me trying to post.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 08:50:49 PM
Misty Cummings told First Coast News she and her husband will have nothing more to do with Tim Miller or with Mark NeJame. He is the attorney who agreed to work with the Cummings last week in the search for Haleigh.Misty Cummings said she feels they lied to her.
(They don't want their help, so my question is answered. In my eyes if you really loved and wanted Haleigh found, you would take their help. And I also don't believe for a second that Ron is keeping her close to get answers, I flirted with that idea for awhile, but that's gone  ::MonkeyMad::)


 ::MonkeyLaugh:: Ok, that's just how I feel right now............along with pizzed. Thank God Mark NeJame was on NG to speak for the children, but I notice after TJ Hart mentioned that Ron is STILL with Misty that Miss Nancy had NO questions about just how odd and freaky that is..............hmm, can't imagine her not asking pertinent questions ::MonkeyDevil2::
OMG this has gone on way too long!! SOMEONE MAKE HER TALK!!!!!!! ACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!! (http://bestsmileys.com/angry1/5.gif)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 27, 2009, 08:51:53 PM
Thanks IM, I see Misty is trying to throw the mother's side and her brother under the bus  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Color me surprised  ::MonkeyTongue:: N O T!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also pulling the "I'm only 17 card", yeah, well biatch you were too yound, immature and drugged out to be taking care of precious children you slore. ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Just a guess, but remember in the very beginning LE said something like we're dealing with a 17 yr old, not the same as interviewing an adult ... guessing she picked up that sympathy card and tried to use it.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 08:53:14 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Exclusive-Misty-Croslin-Cummings-polygraph-tapes/j7-bWzHuekSLPlWFcKCkhA.cspx




Here is the link from the article upthread and there is also a video here...........sorry for the delay, someone rang the doorbell right in the middle if me trying to post.
I heard I wouldn't tell.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 08:55:35 PM
Thanks IM, I see Misty is trying to throw the mother's side and her brother under the bus  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Color me surprised  ::MonkeyTongue:: N O T!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also pulling the "I'm only 17 card", yeah, well biatch you were too yound, immature and drugged out to be taking care of precious children you slore. ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Just a guess, but remember in the very beginning LE said something like we're dealing with a 17 yr old, not the same as interviewing an adult ... guessing she picked up that sympathy card and tried to use it.



Yes, I think that is what she is doing. I won't even go into my thoughts of what she has all been up to and she is only 17  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 08:57:30 PM
Thanks IM, I see Misty is trying to throw the mother's side and her brother under the bus  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Color me surprised  ::MonkeyTongue:: N O T!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also pulling the "I'm only 17 card", yeah, well biatch you were too yound, immature and drugged out to be taking care of precious children you slore. ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Just a guess, but remember in the very beginning LE said something like we're dealing with a 17 yr old, not the same as interviewing an adult ... guessing she picked up that sympathy card and tried to use it.




Good point, it's been so long I forgot that.............don't buy it for a minute, but I'd bet money you are right OR she's been thrown under the bus by covering for someone else and they told her "your only 17, a juvenile, " and she thought it would protect her. Just tossing around ideas before the xanax kicks in ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 27, 2009, 08:58:59 PM
For some reason the last couple days, I haven't been able to access the WFTV website.  Is anyone else having problems?

I was having problems Klaas.. Both Wesh and WFTV would just boot me off.. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 08:59:18 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Exclusive-Misty-Croslin-Cummings-polygraph-tapes/j7-bWzHuekSLPlWFcKCkhA.cspx




Here is the link from the article upthread and there is also a video here...........sorry for the delay, someone rang the doorbell right in the middle if me trying to post.
I heard I wouldn't tell.

Thanks~I thought I was crazier than normal. I appreciate yoiur listening to them. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 27, 2009, 08:59:43 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Exclusive-Misty-Croslin-Cummings-polygraph-tapes/j7-bWzHuekSLPlWFcKCkhA.cspx




Here is the link from the article upthread and there is also a video here...........sorry for the delay, someone rang the doorbell right in the middle if me trying to post.
I heard I wouldn't tell.
I heard that to, and what does she mean, "I don't know if I saw something in my sleep"     wierd, this girl is just wierd.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 09:01:07 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Exclusive-Misty-Croslin-Cummings-polygraph-tapes/j7-bWzHuekSLPlWFcKCkhA.cspx




Here is the link from the article upthread and there is also a video here...........sorry for the delay, someone rang the doorbell right in the middle if me trying to post.
I heard I wouldn't tell.
I heard that to, and what does she mean, "I don't know if I saw something in my sleep"     wierd, this girl is just wierd.
I'm figuring she meant dreaming, but who knows what she is thinking?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 27, 2009, 09:02:25 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Exclusive-Misty-Croslin-Cummings-polygraph-tapes/j7-bWzHuekSLPlWFcKCkhA.cspx




Here is the link from the article upthread and there is also a video here...........sorry for the delay, someone rang the doorbell right in the middle if me trying to post.
I heard I wouldn't tell.
I heard that to, and what does she mean, "I don't know if I saw something in my sleep"     wierd, this girl is just wierd.
I'm figuring she meant dreaming, but who knows what she is thinking?
well, I dream all the time , just not about my daughter getting taken and then wake up and she is........this girl is so hiding something..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 09:05:17 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Exclusive-Misty-Croslin-Cummings-polygraph-tapes/j7-bWzHuekSLPlWFcKCkhA.cspx




Here is the link from the article upthread and there is also a video here...........sorry for the delay, someone rang the doorbell right in the middle if me trying to post.
I heard I wouldn't tell.
I heard that to, and what does she mean, "I don't know if I saw something in my sleep"     wierd, this girl is just wierd.

I heard that too, and thought well............you don't actually see when you sleep ::MonkeyRoll:: and figured she was just winging the entire test.

I guess they saw Tim as he is, compassionate and caring and took him for a fool, I bet they thought they could pull one over on him if they ran to him about Misty's other polys not being so good. I can visualize it now in my head...............they took advantage of him because of his nature and then turned and threw him under the bus when he got the results. Shame on them ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Hiding Monkey on August 27, 2009, 09:05:46 PM
This was interesting...

Investigator: Tell me about how your home life was when you were growing up?
Misty: It was terrible…I have been in and out of houses, lived in cars, had drug addicts as parents…my life has been bad my whole life…and it’s just not going to get better it looks like.

Why would she say that if she was innocent? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 09:08:29 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Exclusive-Misty-Croslin-Cummings-polygraph-tapes/j7-bWzHuekSLPlWFcKCkhA.cspx




Here is the link from the article upthread and there is also a video here...........sorry for the delay, someone rang the doorbell right in the middle if me trying to post.
I heard I wouldn't tell.
I heard that to, and what does she mean, "I don't know if I saw something in my sleep"     wierd, this girl is just wierd.

I heard that too, and thought well............you don't actually see when you sleep ::MonkeyRoll:: and figured she was just winging the entire test.

I guess they saw Tim as he is, compassionate and caring and took him for a fool, I bet they thought they could pull one over on him if they ran to him about Misty's other polys not being so good. I can visualize it now in my head...............they took advantage of him because of his nature and then turned and threw him under the bus when he got the results. Shame on them ::MonkeyConfused::
That is exactly what I feel they did. I see what you are saying I guess that I misunderstood what Misty was saying, I just thought she was dreaming, sort of like when you are half asleep, and sometimes you are not sure if it is real or not.  ::MonkeyConfused::  She has me all confused.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 27, 2009, 09:08:50 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Exclusive-Misty-Croslin-Cummings-polygraph-tapes/j7-bWzHuekSLPlWFcKCkhA.cspx

Here is the link from the article upthread and there is also a video here...........sorry for the delay, someone rang the doorbell right in the middle if me trying to post.
I heard I wouldn't tell.

ok I'm way older than ya'll so I get to disagree & you can't be mean to me.  ::MonkeyTongue::

I listened to it about 15 times ...  at first it sounded like wouldn't, but since she was in whining/crying mode, it then sounded like a voice hik-kup to me in the middle of the word...  like, "If I knew who hurt her, I woo-hood tell." 

 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 09:08:56 PM
This was interesting...

Investigator: Tell me about how your home life was when you were growing up?
Misty: It was terrible…I have been in and out of houses, lived in cars, had drug addicts as parents…my life has been bad my whole life…and it’s just not going to get better it looks like.

Why would she say that if she was innocent? 

No clue, we were asking that Q last night. The entire video of the VSA is a contradiction in a conundrum......................the CHIT has officially hit the fan ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 09:09:14 PM
This was interesting...

Investigator: Tell me about how your home life was when you were growing up?
Misty: It was terrible…I have been in and out of houses, lived in cars, had drug addicts as parents…my life has been bad my whole life…and it’s just not going to get better it looks like.

Why would she say that if she was innocent? 
Very telling statement  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 09:10:58 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Exclusive-Misty-Croslin-Cummings-polygraph-tapes/j7-bWzHuekSLPlWFcKCkhA.cspx

Here is the link from the article upthread and there is also a video here...........sorry for the delay, someone rang the doorbell right in the middle if me trying to post.
I heard I wouldn't tell.

ok I'm way older than ya'll so I get to disagree & you can't be mean to me.  ::MonkeyTongue::

I listened to it about 15 times ...  at first it sounded like wouldn't, but since she was in whining/crying mode, it then sounded like a voice hik-kup to me in the middle of the word...  like, "If I knew who hurt her, I woo-hood tell." 

 



Thanks for for that.......I bet you are right, that lack of enuciation would be just about right for Misty from what we've heard so far. Thanks for your input ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 27, 2009, 09:14:29 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Exclusive-Misty-Croslin-Cummings-polygraph-tapes/j7-bWzHuekSLPlWFcKCkhA.cspx

Here is the link from the article upthread and there is also a video here...........sorry for the delay, someone rang the doorbell right in the middle if me trying to post.
I heard I wouldn't tell.

ok I'm way older than ya'll so I get to disagree & you can't be mean to me.  ::MonkeyTongue::

I listened to it about 15 times ...  at first it sounded like wouldn't, but since she was in whining/crying mode, it then sounded like a voice hik-kup to me in the middle of the word...  like, "If I knew who hurt her, I woo-hood tell." 

 

Thanks for for that.......I bet you are right, that lack of enuciation would be just about right for Misty from what we've heard so far. Thanks for your input ::MonkeyTongue::

After I wrote that, I thought did she say "If I knew who hurt her ....."     ??   And yes, that's what she said.  "I would never hurt her.   If I knew who hurt her, I would tell."

How does she know someone hurt her ?   



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 09:16:27 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Exclusive-Misty-Croslin-Cummings-polygraph-tapes/j7-bWzHuekSLPlWFcKCkhA.cspx

Here is the link from the article upthread and there is also a video here...........sorry for the delay, someone rang the doorbell right in the middle if me trying to post.
I heard I wouldn't tell.

ok I'm way older than ya'll so I get to disagree & you can't be mean to me.  ::MonkeyTongue::

I listened to it about 15 times ...  at first it sounded like wouldn't, but since she was in whining/crying mode, it then sounded like a voice hik-kup to me in the middle of the word...  like, "If I knew who hurt her, I woo-hood tell." 

 

Thanks for for that.......I bet you are right, that lack of enuciation would be just about right for Misty from what we've heard so far. Thanks for your input ::MonkeyTongue::

After I wrote that, I thought did she say "If I knew who hurt her ....."     ??   And yes, that's what she said.  "I would never hurt her.   If I knew who hurt her, I would tell."

How does she know someone hurt her ?   



MOO~Haleigh doen't know what happened to Haleigh after she left the MH that night is my guess, but I think she knows she didn't leave alive ::MonkeyNoNo:: MOO< MOO<JMO<IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 09:22:33 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Exclusive-Misty-Croslin-Cummings-polygraph-tapes/j7-bWzHuekSLPlWFcKCkhA.cspx

Here is the link from the article upthread and there is also a video here...........sorry for the delay, someone rang the doorbell right in the middle if me trying to post.
I heard I wouldn't tell.

ok I'm way older than ya'll so I get to disagree & you can't be mean to me.  ::MonkeyTongue::

I listened to it about 15 times ...  at first it sounded like wouldn't, but since she was in whining/crying mode, it then sounded like a voice hik-kup to me in the middle of the word...  like, "If I knew who hurt her, I woo-hood tell." 

 

Thanks for for that.......I bet you are right, that lack of enuciation would be just about right for Misty from what we've heard so far. Thanks for your input ::MonkeyTongue::

After I wrote that, I thought did she say "If I knew who hurt her ....."     ??   And yes, that's what she said.  "I would never hurt her.   If I knew who hurt her, I would tell."

How does she know someone hurt her ?   


Good point


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 27, 2009, 09:25:27 PM
ticks me off that she is saying that her and Ron will have nothing more to do with Tim Miller...huh?? why isn't Ron saying that he will have nothing more to do with Misty?  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 27, 2009, 09:25:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/TRsqAeufmbY&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en&feature=player_embedded&fs=1


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Hiding Monkey on August 27, 2009, 09:26:28 PM
I was watching NG earlier and someone mentioned that Ron stated when he'd come home that night the bed he shares with Misty was made.  She apparently hadn't been sleeping in it as she states.  Anyone catch that or am I behind with things?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 27, 2009, 09:27:18 PM
Well I messed that up, but this video is on Crystals page now and in it it tells what a liar Misty is ....you just have to watch it, a real cut down on Misty, and beautiful pictures of Haleigh..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 27, 2009, 09:27:46 PM
I was watching NG earlier and someone mentioned that Ron stated when he'd come home that night the bed he shares with Misty was made.  She apparently hadn't been sleeping in it as she states.  Anyone catch that or am I behind with things?

yes,,,that was said....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 27, 2009, 09:29:03 PM
I was watching NG earlier and someone mentioned that Ron stated when he'd come home that night the bed he shares with Misty was made.  She apparently hadn't been sleeping in it as she states.  Anyone catch that or am I behind with things?
That correct, it was on a news statement yesterday, the person that wrote the article says Ronald said that he knew Misty was lying about being asleep because the bed had not been slept in and that LE confirmed what he said!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 09:30:07 PM
ticks me off that she is saying that her and Ron will have nothing more to do with Tim Miller...huh?? why isn't Ron saying that he will have nothing more to do with Misty?  ::MonkeyConfused::
Yes, why isnt' he?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 09:30:19 PM
I was watching NG earlier and someone mentioned that Ron stated when he'd come home that night the bed he shares with Misty was made.  She apparently hadn't been sleeping in it as she states.  Anyone catch that or am I behind with things?

Yeah, caught that because I wondered where was JR sleeping then..............remember both Ron and Misty said she and Jr were in the big bed (well, that was their 2nd story after they were all sleeping in it). So many things that make you go hmmmmmmm and I'm starting to see so many parallels to the Anthony family and it makes me sick ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 27, 2009, 09:30:53 PM
Klaas, could you please fix the video for me.   I have never posted a video before and now I know why.. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 09:30:56 PM
Well I messed that up, but this video is on Crystals page now and in it it tells what a liar Misty is ....you just have to watch it, a real cut down on Misty, and beautiful pictures of Haleigh..
Thanks


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Hiding Monkey on August 27, 2009, 09:31:21 PM
ticks me off that she is saying that her and Ron will have nothing more to do with Tim Miller...huh?? why isn't Ron saying that he will have nothing more to do with Misty?  ::MonkeyConfused::
Knowing where Tim's heart is in all of this, its sad because he just wants to find Haleigh.  This could be their excuse so she's not found.  Ron had better be questionning things with her and if he's not, he appears just as guilty to me!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 09:32:04 PM
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 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

Can't even watch as that song make me cry in and of itself............


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 27, 2009, 09:32:10 PM


Maybe it's my OCD kicking in tonight, or maybe it's just the way that Misty speaks, but the more times I listen to that little clip, the more interesting the words become:

Interviewer:   
"There's things going on with you about Haleigh going missing that you're not telling anybody."


Misty (voice changes at this point, begins to whine/cry):

"There's nothing I'm not telling nobody.  Cause I didn't have nothing to do with her.

I loved that little girl more than anything.

I would never hurt her.  If I knew who hurt her, I would tell.





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 27, 2009, 09:33:15 PM
I don't know how he could support her any longer after hearing about this! grrrrr....



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 09:33:41 PM
ticks me off that she is saying that her and Ron will have nothing more to do with Tim Miller...huh?? why isn't Ron saying that he will have nothing more to do with Misty?  ::MonkeyConfused::
Knowing where Tim's heart is in all of this, its sad because he just wants to find Haleigh.  This could be their excuse so she's not found.  Ron had better be questionning things with her and if he's not, he appears just as guilty to me!
I know that is how I feel.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 09:37:20 PM


Maybe it's my OCD kicking in tonight, or maybe it's just the way that Misty speaks, but the more times I listen to that little clip, the more interesting the words become:

Interviewer:   
"There's things going on with you about Haleigh going missing that you're not telling anybody."


Misty (voice changes at this point, begins to whine/cry):

"There's nothing I'm not telling nobody.  Cause I didn't have nothing to do with her.

I loved that little girl more than anything.

I would never hurt her.  If I knew who hurt her, I would tell.





EXACTLY...............those were the 2 points I mentioned upthread ......I rewound it and listened to it over and over before posting it and asking y'all to listen. At least I'm not crazy though ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 27, 2009, 09:39:46 PM
I don't know how he could support her any longer after hearing about this! grrrrr....


Me either and if he continues to stand behind her with all this going one, lets her live at his Grandmothers home, feeds her, clothes her, sleeps wth her and lets her be around Jr., then its as plain as day to me that something else is going on with all this, if he doesnt Love Haleigh enough to get the truth out of Misty then I can only say its because he already knows.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Hiding Monkey on August 27, 2009, 09:41:38 PM
Where is Ron Jr living now?  If he's with Ron and I was Crystal-I don't think you could keep me from going over and getting him!!! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 09:42:26 PM
I don't know how he could support her any longer after hearing about this! grrrrr....


Me either and if he continues to stand behind her with all this going one, lets her live at his Grandmothers home, feeds her, clothes her, sleeps wth her and lets her be around Jr., then its as plain as day to me that something else is going on with all this, if he doesnt Love Haleigh enough to get the truth out of Misty then I can only say its because he already knows.....
Agreed


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 27, 2009, 09:42:53 PM


Maybe it's my OCD kicking in tonight, or maybe it's just the way that Misty speaks, but the more times I listen to that little clip, the more interesting the words become:

Interviewer:   
"There's things going on with you about Haleigh going missing that you're not telling anybody."


Misty (voice changes at this point, begins to whine/cry):

"There's nothing I'm not telling nobody.  Cause I didn't have nothing to do with her.

I loved that little girl more than anything.

I would never hurt her.  If I knew who hurt her, I would tell.


EXACTLY...............those were the 2 points I mentioned upthread ......I rewound it and listened to it over and over before posting it and asking y'all to listen. At least I'm not crazy though ::MonkeyWink::

Oh, I'm sorry IM ... obviously it took a bit for it to sink in with me.    ::MonkeyWink::





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 09:43:28 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?mid=1229703739





Misty's hypnosis video..........she was right about one thing, her life isn't going to get any better and I think neither is Rons's


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 09:45:51 PM
Where is Ron Jr living now?  If he's with Ron and I was Crystal-I don't think you could keep me from going over and getting him!!! 
Me either, I would be over there and wouldn't leave without him, or I would camp out in the yard, either way they would have to kill me to get rid of me. She has a lot more willpower, and trusting in her lawyer than I would. But at the same time I know she is doing the right thing, even though it must be killing her slowly inside.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 09:46:31 PM


Maybe it's my OCD kicking in tonight, or maybe it's just the way that Misty speaks, but the more times I listen to that little clip, the more interesting the words become:

Interviewer:   
"There's things going on with you about Haleigh going missing that you're not telling anybody."


Misty (voice changes at this point, begins to whine/cry):

"There's nothing I'm not telling nobody.  Cause I didn't have nothing to do with her.

I loved that little girl more than anything.

I would never hurt her.  If I knew who hurt her, I would tell.


EXACTLY...............those were the 2 points I mentioned upthread ......I rewound it and listened to it over and over before posting it and asking y'all to listen. At least I'm not crazy though ::MonkeyWink::

Oh, I'm sorry IM ... obviously it took a bit for it to sink in with me.    ::MonkeyWink::





It's just so much mass lies that you have to literally listen to every word to get what she is saying ::MonkeyConfused:: but, I'm still confused at whether or not she said I WOULDN'T tell or wood-ah????????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 09:51:20 PM
 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

Ok, according to the hypnosis video Ron WAS STILL there when the A/C guy was there around 5pm............I thought he was at work already.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Hiding Monkey on August 27, 2009, 09:57:28 PM
Where is Ron Jr living now?  If he's with Ron and I was Crystal-I don't think you could keep me from going over and getting him!!! 
Me either, I would be over there and wouldn't leave without him, or I would camp out in the yard, either way they would have to kill me to get rid of me. She has a lot more willpower, and trusting in her lawyer than I would. But at the same time I know she is doing the right thing, even though it must be killing her slowly inside.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
  I hope they keep the pressure on Ron and Misty now!  I watched the tape and when she says "This isn't about a grownup-it's about a child" I couldn't help but think she was talking about herself.  She then began her crying. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 27, 2009, 10:04:02 PM
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

Ok, according to the hypnosis video Ron WAS STILL there when the A/C guy was there around 5pm............I thought he was at work already.  ::MonkeyTongue::
I thought she said she called ronald on the phone and said "the ac man is here and he said yea" and she gave the phone to the ac man so Ronald could talk to him..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 10:05:48 PM
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

Ok, according to the hypnosis video Ron WAS STILL there when the A/C guy was there around 5pm............I thought he was at work already.  ::MonkeyTongue::
Me too  ::MonkeyEek:: Or at least not at the home.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 10:07:22 PM
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

Ok, according to the hypnosis video Ron WAS STILL there when the A/C guy was there around 5pm............I thought he was at work already.  ::MonkeyTongue::
I thought she said she called ronald on the phone and said "the ac man is here and he said yea" and she gave the phone to the ac man so Ronald could talk to him..

I know yet another story.......big ::MonkeyJnBox:: shock ::MonkeyRoll::  Also, she states Jr crawled over her and Haleigh took her own shirt off??????????/ :smt098 :smt068 :2brickwall:


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Blumonkey on August 27, 2009, 10:15:52 PM
Misty says she woke up and saw 3 on the clock. She says she is not sure why she awakened out of a "deep sleep." That was not her original story. She initially said she woke up to go to the bathroom. I remember this because there was discussion as to why she didn't go in the master bathroom but instead went toward the kitchen and saw the light on.This was my first red flag because most teenage girls do not awaken at 3 AM to go to the bathroom if they went to bed at 10 pm. Teenage girls can sleep 12 hours without needing to empty their bladder. A small nugget that became a question for me early on.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 10:16:24 PM
RC was there with GGM. TN, MC, and Jr. were not at the hearing.   That is according to a post at WS, the same person who stated about the outcome of the hearing.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 10:19:44 PM
Misty says she woke up and saw 3 on the clock. She says she is not sure why she awakened out of a "deep sleep." That was not her original story. She initially said she woke up to go to the bathroom. I remember this because there was discussion as to why she didn't go in the master bathroom but instead went toward the kitchen and saw the light on.This was my first red flag because most teenage girls do not awaken at 3 AM to go to the bathroom if they went to bed at 10 pm. Teenage girls can sleep 12 hours without needing to empty their bladder. A small nugget that became a question for me early on.
I noticed that change of story  ::MonkeyEek::  Also they went all the way to Weletka for an outfit that Haleigh wanted to wear  ::MonkeyRoll:: wasn't there talk about Haleigh spilling something on her shirt and something about goint to Walmart? I thought George and Cindy Anthony took the prize for different versions of stories, but this is all coming in a close second  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 10:26:42 PM
Misty says she woke up and saw 3 on the clock. She says she is not sure why she awakened out of a "deep sleep." That was not her original story. She initially said she woke up to go to the bathroom. I remember this because there was discussion as to why she didn't go in the master bathroom but instead went toward the kitchen and saw the light on.This was my first red flag because most teenage girls do not awaken at 3 AM to go to the bathroom if they went to bed at 10 pm. Teenage girls can sleep 12 hours without needing to empty their bladder. A small nugget that became a question for me early on.
I noticed that change of story  ::MonkeyEek::  Also they went all the way to Weletka for an outfit that Haleigh wanted to wear  ::MonkeyRoll:: wasn't there talk about Haleigh spilling something on her shirt and something about goint to Walmart? I thought George and Cindy Anthony took the prize for different versions of stories, but this is all coming in a close second  ::MonkeyRoll::

Yeah, nothing makes any sense whatsoever and like I said earlier I think Misty and the peternal side of the family (so far anyway) have been reading the A's playbook....... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 10:29:15 PM
Misty says she woke up and saw 3 on the clock. She says she is not sure why she awakened out of a "deep sleep." That was not her original story. She initially said she woke up to go to the bathroom. I remember this because there was discussion as to why she didn't go in the master bathroom but instead went toward the kitchen and saw the light on.This was my first red flag because most teenage girls do not awaken at 3 AM to go to the bathroom if they went to bed at 10 pm. Teenage girls can sleep 12 hours without needing to empty their bladder. A small nugget that became a question for me early on.
I noticed that change of story  ::MonkeyEek::  Also they went all the way to Weletka for an outfit that Haleigh wanted to wear  ::MonkeyRoll:: wasn't there talk about Haleigh spilling something on her shirt and something about goint to Walmart? I thought George and Cindy Anthony took the prize for different versions of stories, but this is all coming in a close second  ::MonkeyRoll::

Yeah, nothing makes any sense whatsoever and like I said earlier I think Misty and the peternal side of the family (so far anyway) have been reading the A's playbook....... ::MonkeyNoNo::
I guess, just like the Anthonys they don't figure people follow everything they say, and know all the lies and spinning  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Blumonkey on August 27, 2009, 10:33:36 PM
Misty says she woke up and saw 3 on the clock. She says she is not sure why she awakened out of a "deep sleep." That was not her original story. She initially said she woke up to go to the bathroom. I remember this because there was discussion as to why she didn't go in the master bathroom but instead went toward the kitchen and saw the light on.This was my first red flag because most teenage girls do not awaken at 3 AM to go to the bathroom if they went to bed at 10 pm. Teenage girls can sleep 12 hours without needing to empty their bladder. A small nugget that became a question for me early on.
I noticed that change of story  ::MonkeyEek::  Also they went all the way to Weletka for an outfit that Haleigh wanted to wear  ::MonkeyRoll:: wasn't there talk about Haleigh spilling something on her shirt and something about goint to Walmart? I thought George and Cindy Anthony took the prize for different versions of stories, but this is all coming in a close second  ::MonkeyRoll::
The more she talks, the more she unravels. I also noticed her body language. She shakes her head "no" when answering in affirmative. She says "I love kids" while she shakes her head "no." ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 27, 2009, 10:36:53 PM
Misty says she woke up and saw 3 on the clock. She says she is not sure why she awakened out of a "deep sleep." That was not her original story. She initially said she woke up to go to the bathroom. I remember this because there was discussion as to why she didn't go in the master bathroom but instead went toward the kitchen and saw the light on.This was my first red flag because most teenage girls do not awaken at 3 AM to go to the bathroom if they went to bed at 10 pm. Teenage girls can sleep 12 hours without needing to empty their bladder. A small nugget that became a question for me early on.

yep....it was a red flag to me in the beginning as well...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 27, 2009, 10:37:49 PM
Misty says she woke up and saw 3 on the clock. She says she is not sure why she awakened out of a "deep sleep." That was not her original story. She initially said she woke up to go to the bathroom. I remember this because there was discussion as to why she didn't go in the master bathroom but instead went toward the kitchen and saw the light on.This was my first red flag because most teenage girls do not awaken at 3 AM to go to the bathroom if they went to bed at 10 pm. Teenage girls can sleep 12 hours without needing to empty their bladder. A small nugget that became a question for me early on.
I noticed that change of story  ::MonkeyEek::  Also they went all the way to Weletka for an outfit that Haleigh wanted to wear  ::MonkeyRoll:: wasn't there talk about Haleigh spilling something on her shirt and something about goint to Walmart? I thought George and Cindy Anthony took the prize for different versions of stories, but this is all coming in a close second  ::MonkeyRoll::

What puzzeled me is that GGranny brought the clothes over at 7pm among other inconstancies she has stated..... Why would they need to go to Welaka to get an outfit? Nothing much about JR that morning. Where was JR all this time. Did Ronald drop JR at GG grannys that morning so they could sleep after dropping Haleigh off at school..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 27, 2009, 10:40:57 PM
Misty says she woke up and saw 3 on the clock. She says she is not sure why she awakened out of a "deep sleep." That was not her original story. She initially said she woke up to go to the bathroom. I remember this because there was discussion as to why she didn't go in the master bathroom but instead went toward the kitchen and saw the light on.This was my first red flag because most teenage girls do not awaken at 3 AM to go to the bathroom if they went to bed at 10 pm. Teenage girls can sleep 12 hours without needing to empty their bladder. A small nugget that became a question for me early on.

yep....it was a red flag to me in the beginning as well...

But this is not your typical teenage girl, jmo!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 10:41:29 PM
Misty says she woke up and saw 3 on the clock. She says she is not sure why she awakened out of a "deep sleep." That was not her original story. She initially said she woke up to go to the bathroom. I remember this because there was discussion as to why she didn't go in the master bathroom but instead went toward the kitchen and saw the light on.This was my first red flag because most teenage girls do not awaken at 3 AM to go to the bathroom if they went to bed at 10 pm. Teenage girls can sleep 12 hours without needing to empty their bladder. A small nugget that became a question for me early on.
I noticed that change of story  ::MonkeyEek::  Also they went all the way to Weletka for an outfit that Haleigh wanted to wear  ::MonkeyRoll:: wasn't there talk about Haleigh spilling something on her shirt and something about goint to Walmart? I thought George and Cindy Anthony took the prize for different versions of stories, but this is all coming in a close second  ::MonkeyRoll::
The more she talks, the more she unravels. I also noticed her body language. She shakes her head "no" when answering in affirmative. She says "I love kids" while she shakes her head "no." ::MonkeyNoNo::

I noticed that too............also her heading shaking no after she talks about Ron not doing anything to Haleigh because she is his heart


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 27, 2009, 10:45:15 PM
Misty says she woke up and saw 3 on the clock. She says she is not sure why she awakened out of a "deep sleep." That was not her original story. She initially said she woke up to go to the bathroom. I remember this because there was discussion as to why she didn't go in the master bathroom but instead went toward the kitchen and saw the light on.This was my first red flag because most teenage girls do not awaken at 3 AM to go to the bathroom if they went to bed at 10 pm. Teenage girls can sleep 12 hours without needing to empty their bladder. A small nugget that became a question for me early on.
I noticed that change of story  ::MonkeyEek::  Also they went all the way to Weletka for an outfit that Haleigh wanted to wear  ::MonkeyRoll:: wasn't there talk about Haleigh spilling something on her shirt and something about goint to Walmart? I thought George and Cindy Anthony took the prize for different versions of stories, but this is all coming in a close second  ::MonkeyRoll::

Didn't the story of HaLeigh spilling something on her shirt  info that AH posted that came from Jerry Santos?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 10:47:16 PM
Misty says she woke up and saw 3 on the clock. She says she is not sure why she awakened out of a "deep sleep." That was not her original story. She initially said she woke up to go to the bathroom. I remember this because there was discussion as to why she didn't go in the master bathroom but instead went toward the kitchen and saw the light on.This was my first red flag because most teenage girls do not awaken at 3 AM to go to the bathroom if they went to bed at 10 pm. Teenage girls can sleep 12 hours without needing to empty their bladder. A small nugget that became a question for me early on.
I noticed that change of story  ::MonkeyEek::  Also they went all the way to Weletka for an outfit that Haleigh wanted to wear  ::MonkeyRoll:: wasn't there talk about Haleigh spilling something on her shirt and something about goint to Walmart? I thought George and Cindy Anthony took the prize for different versions of stories, but this is all coming in a close second  ::MonkeyRoll::

What puzzeled me is that GGranny brought the clothes over at 7pm among other inconstancies she has stated..... Why would they need to go to Welaka to get an outfit? Nothing much about JR that morning. Where was JR all this time. Did Ronald drop JR at GG grannys that morning so they could sleep after dropping Haleigh off at school..
That's right GGranny brought clothes over that evening, funny I didn't hear Misty say anything about this  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 27, 2009, 10:48:17 PM
Now that Ron and Misty have lawyer up LE needs to find Haleigh and then go from there...
These 2 are not going to budge...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 10:48:38 PM
 ::MonkeyConfused:: RETRACTION>>>> I listened to the hypnosis tape again, Ron wasn't there when the AC guy was, I misunderstood her when she said he left about 5 minutes after Haleigh got home from the bus............. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 10:50:18 PM
Now that Ron and Misty have lawyer up LE needs to find Haleigh and then go from there...
These 2 are not going to budge...
Nope they are not


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 10:50:20 PM
Misty says she woke up and saw 3 on the clock. She says she is not sure why she awakened out of a "deep sleep." That was not her original story. She initially said she woke up to go to the bathroom. I remember this because there was discussion as to why she didn't go in the master bathroom but instead went toward the kitchen and saw the light on.This was my first red flag because most teenage girls do not awaken at 3 AM to go to the bathroom if they went to bed at 10 pm. Teenage girls can sleep 12 hours without needing to empty their bladder. A small nugget that became a question for me early on.
I noticed that change of story  ::MonkeyEek::  Also they went all the way to Weletka for an outfit that Haleigh wanted to wear  ::MonkeyRoll:: wasn't there talk about Haleigh spilling something on her shirt and something about goint to Walmart? I thought George and Cindy Anthony took the prize for different versions of stories, but this is all coming in a close second  ::MonkeyRoll::

Didn't the story of HaLeigh spilling something on her shirt  info that AH posted that came from Jerry Santos?

IIRC, Jerry Santos was TOLD that by Ron when he asked him about Ron speeding by the bus stop.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 27, 2009, 10:51:41 PM
goodnite monkey friends..
I hope that while I am sleeping in my bed that Misty will get hauled into jail!
better yet, that Haleigh will be found..this is really heartbreaking...
If I was Crystal, I would want to rip Misty's head off!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 27, 2009, 10:55:18 PM
goodnite monkey friends..
I hope that while I am sleeping in my bed that Misty will get hauled into jail!
better yet, that Haleigh will be found..this is really heartbreaking...
If I was Crystal, I would want to rip Misty's head off!

This is unreal.... Especially knowing  Misty is there with JR... ::MonkeyMad::
I would of been in jail if this happened to me...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 10:57:28 PM
Ok, just listened to the polygraph guy questioning her about R's involvement, he tells her he sees doubt when she states he had nothing to do with it and asked her why she had doubts............she states "I don't know why I have doubts"  ::MonkeyDevil2:: Rutto, wrong answer. I thought she'd say "you're wrong, I have no doubts". Very interesting when yiu listen to them over and over and realize you miss those little nuances


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 27, 2009, 10:58:18 PM
Misty says she woke up and saw 3 on the clock. She says she is not sure why she awakened out of a "deep sleep." That was not her original story. She initially said she woke up to go to the bathroom. I remember this because there was discussion as to why she didn't go in the master bathroom but instead went toward the kitchen and saw the light on.This was my first red flag because most teenage girls do not awaken at 3 AM to go to the bathroom if they went to bed at 10 pm. Teenage girls can sleep 12 hours without needing to empty their bladder. A small nugget that became a question for me early on.
I noticed that change of story  ::MonkeyEek::  Also they went all the way to Weletka for an outfit that Haleigh wanted to wear  ::MonkeyRoll:: wasn't there talk about Haleigh spilling something on her shirt and something about goint to Walmart? I thought George and Cindy Anthony took the prize for different versions of stories, but this is all coming in a close second  ::MonkeyRoll::

Didn't the story of HaLeigh spilling something on her shirt  info that AH posted that came from Jerry Santos?

IIRC, Jerry Santos was TOLD that by Ron when he asked him about Ron speeding by the bus stop.
IIRC, AH posted that that is what Jerry Santos said Ron said.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 11:00:19 PM
goodnite monkey friends..
I hope that while I am sleeping in my bed that Misty will get hauled into jail!
better yet, that Haleigh will be found..this is really heartbreaking...
If I was Crystal, I would want to rip Misty's head off!

Me too, but I'd rip off Ron's too as he is still sticking by her and if he had nothing to do with her disappearance he is 100% culpable for leaving the kids with her after everything he knew. He needs to man up and he is accountable for his actions too. I'm feel horrific for Crystal and her family and especially JR. God be with them ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 11:00:28 PM
Ok, just listened to the polygraph guy questioning her about R's involvement, he tells her he sees doubt when she states he had nothing to do with it and asked her why she had doubts............she states "I don't know why I have doubts"  ::MonkeyDevil2:: Rutto, wrong answer. I thought she'd say "you're wrong, I have no doubts". Very interesting when yiu listen to them over and over and realize you miss those little nuances
Yes, and didn't she say she was looking under the beds, aren't the mattresses on the floor  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 27, 2009, 11:00:38 PM
I might add this is not your typical father reaction towards his teenage/babysister/wife
who was the last to see Haleigh and all her inconstancanies. Ron be a man for once...
Either tell the truth or get the answers from your teenage wife...  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 27, 2009, 11:02:08 PM
Ok, just listened to the polygraph guy questioning her about R's involvement, he tells her he sees doubt when she states he had nothing to do with it and asked her why she had doubts............she states "I don't know why I have doubts"  ::MonkeyDevil2:: Rutto, wrong answer. I thought she'd say "you're wrong, I have no doubts". Very interesting when yiu listen to them over and over and realize you miss those little nuances
Yes, and didn't she say she was looking under the beds, aren't the mattresses on the floor  ::MonkeyRoll::

OMG your right.... ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 11:03:14 PM
Ok, just listened to the polygraph guy questioning her about R's involvement, he tells her he sees doubt when she states he had nothing to do with it and asked her why she had doubts............she states "I don't know why I have doubts"  ::MonkeyDevil2:: Rutto, wrong answer. I thought she'd say "you're wrong, I have no doubts". Very interesting when yiu listen to them over and over and realize you miss those little nuances
Yes, and didn't she say she was looking under the beds, aren't the mattresses on the floor  ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 27, 2009, 11:08:51 PM
the fact that she says she got up to go to the bathroom isnt something that causes me to look like  ::MonkeyEek:: because we dont know when the last time she went to the bathroom before she fell asleep was, the thing that she says that does make me go  ::MonkeyEek:: is that she is still saying Haleigh had that pink shirt on when she went to sleep, if HaLeigh was asleep when Misty finally laid down then why did they find that shirt later in the laundrey, see its things like that that does not make any sense......this girl talked almost like she was telling a story she had read...........something is just so wrong about this.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 27, 2009, 11:11:20 PM
the fact that she says she got up to go to the bathroom isnt something that causes me to look like  ::MonkeyEek:: because we dont know when the last time she went to the bathroom before she fell asleep was, the thing that she says that does make me go  ::MonkeyEek:: is that she is still saying Haleigh had that pink shirt on when she went to sleep, if HaLeigh was asleep when Misty finally laid down then why did they find that shirt later in the laundrey, see its things like that that does not make any sense......this girl talked almost like she was telling a story she had read...........something is just so wrong about this.

I dont know if I hear this right didnt Misty say Haleigh liked to take her clothes off at night... because it raised a red flag to me with that comment...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 11:14:19 PM
the fact that she says she got up to go to the bathroom isnt something that causes me to look like  ::MonkeyEek:: because we dont know when the last time she went to the bathroom before she fell asleep was, the thing that she says that does make me go  ::MonkeyEek:: is that she is still saying Haleigh had that pink shirt on when she went to sleep, if HaLeigh was asleep when Misty finally laid down then why did they find that shirt later in the laundrey, see its things like that that does not make any sense......this girl talked almost like she was telling a story she had read...........something is just so wrong about this.

I dont know if I hear this right didnt Misty say Haleigh liked to take her clothes off at night... because it raised a red flag to me with that comment...
That's what I heard.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 27, 2009, 11:16:08 PM
the fact that she says she got up to go to the bathroom isnt something that causes me to look like  ::MonkeyEek:: because we dont know when the last time she went to the bathroom before she fell asleep was, the thing that she says that does make me go  ::MonkeyEek:: is that she is still saying Haleigh had that pink shirt on when she went to sleep, if HaLeigh was asleep when Misty finally laid down then why did they find that shirt later in the laundrey, see its things like that that does not make any sense......this girl talked almost like she was telling a story she had read...........something is just so wrong about this.

I dont know if I hear this right didnt Misty say Haleigh liked to take her clothes off at night... because it raised a red flag to me with that comment...
she said that she had had shorts on but had taken them off, and then she did say that she didnt like to wear clothes and would strip down to her underwear, but as cold as it was and with only a sheet to  cover up with before Misty brought the blanket in and covered her I find that all kinda wacko.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 27, 2009, 11:17:54 PM
the fact that she says she got up to go to the bathroom isnt something that causes me to look like  ::MonkeyEek:: because we dont know when the last time she went to the bathroom before she fell asleep was, the thing that she says that does make me go  ::MonkeyEek:: is that she is still saying Haleigh had that pink shirt on when she went to sleep, if HaLeigh was asleep when Misty finally laid down then why did they find that shirt later in the laundrey, see its things like that that does not make any sense......this girl talked almost like she was telling a story she had read...........something is just so wrong about this.

I dont know if I hear this right didnt Misty say Haleigh liked to take her clothes off at night... because it raised a red flag to me with that comment...
she said that she had had shorts on but had taken them off, and then she did say that she didnt like to wear clothes and would strip down to her underwear, but as cold as it was and with only a sheet to  cover up with before Misty brought the blanket in and covered her I find that all kinda wacko.

It sure does.... ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on August 27, 2009, 11:20:41 PM
Tonight on NG, Bethany Marshall summed it up about Misty….She’s deceptive, manipulative and arrogant. She actually thought she was smart enough to beat the polygraph.(I’m betting she’s very street smart but well below average intelligence and ignorant, not to mention uneducated) Bethany went on to say that the whole trying to clear her name ploy was nothing but a ruse to try and get the heat off herself by exploiting TES.(Now doesn’t that trick remind you of a certain person). When I watch her snivel and boohoo she reminds me of Susan Smith and we all know how honest she was……Is Ron involved? To me it seems both Ron and Misty are involved but as far as specifics go, I wouldn’t even try to guess what could have happened. The fact that the mobile home doesn’t appear to be a crime scene gives me a ray of hope that this child is alive and well somewhere, but I have my doubts…….


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 27, 2009, 11:21:37 PM
Everytime Misty opens her mouth something wacko comes out  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 11:25:30 PM
the fact that she says she got up to go to the bathroom isnt something that causes me to look like  ::MonkeyEek:: because we dont know when the last time she went to the bathroom before she fell asleep was, the thing that she says that does make me go  ::MonkeyEek:: is that she is still saying Haleigh had that pink shirt on when she went to sleep, if HaLeigh was asleep when Misty finally laid down then why did they find that shirt later in the laundrey, see its things like that that does not make any sense......this girl talked almost like she was telling a story she had read...........something is just so wrong about this.

I dont know if I hear this right didnt Misty say Haleigh liked to take her clothes off at night... because it raised a red flag to me with that comment...

Yes~she said that HaLeigh too her own shirt off that night too..........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 27, 2009, 11:27:24 PM
Oh and something else, didnt we hear that cousin Joe was there to visit her that same afternoon, yet Misty never mentions him in her VA either......hmmm


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 27, 2009, 11:31:50 PM
the fact that she says she got up to go to the bathroom isnt something that causes me to look like  ::MonkeyEek:: because we dont know when the last time she went to the bathroom before she fell asleep was, the thing that she says that does make me go  ::MonkeyEek:: is that she is still saying Haleigh had that pink shirt on when she went to sleep, if HaLeigh was asleep when Misty finally laid down then why did they find that shirt later in the laundrey, see its things like that that does not make any sense......this girl talked almost like she was telling a story she had read...........something is just so wrong about this.

I dont know if I hear this right didnt Misty say Haleigh liked to take her clothes off at night... because it raised a red flag to me with that comment...

Yes~she said that HaLeigh too her own shirt off that night too..........

I am beginning to think she manipulated this hynosis test...And never when under.. ::MonkeyTease::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 27, 2009, 11:32:46 PM
Sorry about the typos.. so Tired


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 27, 2009, 11:36:51 PM
Sorry about the typos.. so Tired
Yes Jersey , they have already said she didnt go under, I think she was trying to act like she was just so they would think that what she was saying was true, but those people are proffessionals and they knew what she was doing..........she just thought she was sly enough to fool them to......NOT


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 27, 2009, 11:42:05 PM
Im glad that the court has ordered that Jr.get the couseling he needs once a week, at least thats one good thing that has happened this week........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 27, 2009, 11:42:52 PM
Tonight on NG, Bethany Marshall summed it up about Misty….She’s deceptive, manipulative and arrogant. She actually thought she was smart enough to beat the polygraph.(I’m betting she’s very street smart but well below average intelligence and ignorant, not to mention uneducated) Bethany went on to say that the whole trying to clear her name ploy was nothing but a ruse to try and get the heat off herself by exploiting TES.(Now doesn’t that trick remind you of a certain person). When I watch her snivel and boohoo she reminds me of Susan Smith and we all know how honest she was……Is Ron involved? To me it seems both Ron and Misty are involved but as far as specifics go, I wouldn’t even try to guess what could have happened. The fact that the mobile home doesn’t appear to be a crime scene gives me a ray of hope that this child is alive and well somewhere, but I have my doubts…….

BBM ... "deceptive, manipulative and arrogant." Reminds me of Casey Anthony.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 27, 2009, 11:43:59 PM
Sorry about the typos.. so Tired
Yes Jersey , they have already said she didnt go under, I think she was trying to act like she was just so they would think that what she was saying was true, but those people are proffessionals and they knew what she was doing..........she just thought she was sly enough to fool them to......NOT

 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 27, 2009, 11:49:58 PM
the fact that she says she got up to go to the bathroom isnt something that causes me to look like  ::MonkeyEek:: because we dont know when the last time she went to the bathroom before she fell asleep was, the thing that she says that does make me go  ::MonkeyEek:: is that she is still saying Haleigh had that pink shirt on when she went to sleep, if HaLeigh was asleep when Misty finally laid down then why did they find that shirt later in the laundrey, see its things like that that does not make any sense......this girl talked almost like she was telling a story she had read...........something is just so wrong about this.

I dont know if I hear this right didnt Misty say Haleigh liked to take her clothes off at night... because it raised a red flag to me with that comment...

Yes~she said that HaLeigh too her own shirt off that night too..........
and I guess she went and threw it in the laundrey also, a clean shirt that Misty just put on her after her bath, I dont think so......no way


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 27, 2009, 11:50:42 PM
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

Just listened to the audio of Dominic Pisitello and TJ Hart, and oops I think Dominic slipped up when he was talking about Misty being the last one to see Haleigh ALIVE ::MonkeyTongue:: TJ Hart calls him on it and he repeats it, but says it means nothing ..............right, I believe that ::MonkeyNoNo::

 
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Special Coverage of the Death of Sen. Ted Kennedy

Haleigh Update: TES: Stepmom Misty Fails 4th Polygraph
AUDIO: PCSO Reacts to TES Claims That Haleigh's Stepmom Failed Polygraph 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Posted: Thursday, 27 August 2009 1:47PM

PCSO Reacts to TES Claims That Haleigh's Stepmom Failed Polygraph

TJ Hart

 
The Putnam County Sheriff's Office has confirmed to 97.3 The Sky they have received the polygraph test results from Texas EquuSearch indicating the last person to see missing 6-year-old Haleigh Cummings of Satsuma, Florida failed the test miserably.

Captain Dominic Piscitello spoke with The Sky Thursday to say the sheriff's office does have in its posession the results of the polygraph test Haleigh's then-babysitter-now-stepmother Misty Croslin-Cummings requested take despite the objection of her lawyer.

Piscitello says the results of the polygraph offer nothing suprising other than a couple more inconsistent stories concerning the timeline the night Haleigh was abducted from her father's home and in Misty's care on February 9, 2009.

AUDIO: Unedited Interveiw with Capt. Piscitello
 
 

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 27, 2009, 11:52:58 PM
What ever happened to the blanket in the van and the blanket on the window... ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 11:56:54 PM
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

Just listened to the audio of Dominic Pisitello and TJ Hart, and oops I think Dominic slipped up when he was talking about Misty being the last one to see Haleigh ALIVE ::MonkeyTongue:: TJ Hart calls him on it and he repeats it, but says it means nothing ..............right, I believe that ::MonkeyNoNo::

 
 The Drive Time Happy Hour
3:00 PM - 6:00 PM


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Special Coverage of the Death of Sen. Ted Kennedy

Haleigh Update: TES: Stepmom Misty Fails 4th Polygraph
AUDIO: PCSO Reacts to TES Claims That Haleigh's Stepmom Failed Polygraph 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Posted: Thursday, 27 August 2009 1:47PM

PCSO Reacts to TES Claims That Haleigh's Stepmom Failed Polygraph

TJ Hart

 
The Putnam County Sheriff's Office has confirmed to 97.3 The Sky they have received the polygraph test results from Texas EquuSearch indicating the last person to see missing 6-year-old Haleigh Cummings of Satsuma, Florida failed the test miserably.

Captain Dominic Piscitello spoke with The Sky Thursday to say the sheriff's office does have in its posession the results of the polygraph test Haleigh's then-babysitter-now-stepmother Misty Croslin-Cummings requested take despite the objection of her lawyer.

Piscitello says the results of the polygraph offer nothing suprising other than a couple more inconsistent stories concerning the timeline the night Haleigh was abducted from her father's home and in Misty's care on February 9, 2009.

AUDIO: Unedited Interveiw with Capt. Piscitello
 
 

http://www.thesky973.com/

i'm catching up right now but omg omg omg.....

That was my reaction too ::MonkeyEek:: Sadly I have believed that from the 911 call, but you always want to be wrong in these case.


ALSO~Fox Orlando is reporting that she is now a POI (no chit ::MonkeyRoll::)




http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/082709_Polygraph_results_questioned_in_Haleigh_case

Polygraph results
questioned in Haleigh
case
Updated: Thursday, 27 Aug 2009, 11:08 PM EDT
Published : Thursday, 27 Aug 2009, 11:08 PM EDT

TRACY JACIM | FOX 35 News
Misty (Croslin) Cummings was babysitting Haleigh Cummings when she vanished from her father's Putnam County trailer in February.

A man who recently gave Croslin a lie detector test says she “failed miserably.”

In video taken by a freelance photographer at the request of Texas Equusearch founder, Tim Miller, you can't see the administrator of the voice analysis, but he worked with Miller in Aruba on the Natalie Holloway case.

He says Misty is hiding something.

"There's things going on with you about Haleigh going missing that you know about that you're not telling me about," he says. "There's nothing I'm not telling nobody. I told you and everybody everything I know. I don't know what you're trying to get out of me. I'm 17-years-old...come on...how much can a 17-year-old take?" responds Croslin.

During a couple hours of this voice analysis, a polygraph and even hypnosis; misty again and again points the finger at other people. Miller says the polygraph test was not effective, adding that misty was not cooperative, even though she was the one who requested it be conducted.

"If it's her mother's side of the family... they came in and took her because they didn't want to pay child support.... or if it was somebody else.... I keep hearing things about my brother... I have no idea if he took her," said Croslin.

Investigators say Croslin insists sometime between 10 p.m. and 3 a.m., the morning of February 9, while she and Haleigh slept in the same room, someone came in and took the child.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office says misty is their person of interest right now adding that her only consistency is her inconsistency.In one of the polygraph questions, Croslin is asked, “Have you intentionally withheld any information about Haleigh's disappearance?" to which she answered, “No.” According to the polygraph technician, her answer indicated a 99 percent deception rate.

When asked if she knew the whereabouts of Haleigh, again she answered, “No.” According to the polygraph technician, her answer indicated a 95 percent deception rate.

But when asked if she knew who took Haleigh, again the answer was, “No.” This time, according to the polygraph technician, her answer indicated a 46 percent deception rate.
 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 27, 2009, 11:57:40 PM
What ever happened to the blanket in the van and the blanket on the window... ::MonkeyDevil2::

Who knows anymore, maybe the little green aliens from area 51 took them ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 27, 2009, 11:58:06 PM
Heres some OT good news on a 17 year old case

http://www.nevadaappeal.com/article/20090827/NEWS/908279985/1070&ParentProfile=1058

Thanks for the post, alagary. I was just about to post it, too. I thought of Haleigh when I heard the news hoping it might provide a glimmer of hope in this case.

Misty's note is curious to me. There's no way a diagnosis can be made based on a single small sample of writing, but I was struck with the cramped lettering style, variance of slant within a single word, and random use of capitals within a single sentence. Also interesting is the misuse of particular letter combinations. I used to tutor children who had been diagnosed with dyslexia, and I don't think I ever had a student above 4th grade that did not spell "taking" as "tacking". I don't know that it would be significant if Misty were dyslexic, but it's a fact that there's a higher incidence of genius within that population than occurs in the non-dyslexic population, and a high IQ is also more common.
not being an argue debate monkey..,,,really?   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on August 28, 2009, 12:00:16 AM
Tonight on NG, Bethany Marshall summed it up about Misty….She’s deceptive, manipulative and arrogant. She actually thought she was smart enough to beat the polygraph.(I’m betting she’s very street smart but well below average intelligence and ignorant, not to mention uneducated) Bethany went on to say that the whole trying to clear her name ploy was nothing but a ruse to try and get the heat off herself by exploiting TES.(Now doesn’t that trick remind you of a certain person). When I watch her snivel and boohoo she reminds me of Susan Smith and we all know how honest she was……Is Ron involved? To me it seems both Ron and Misty are involved but as far as specifics go, I wouldn’t even try to guess what could have happened. The fact that the mobile home doesn’t appear to be a crime scene gives me a ray of hope that this child is alive and well somewhere, but I have my doubts…….

BBM ... "deceptive, manipulative and arrogant." Reminds me of Casey Anthony.



Until I got involved with SM I would feel bad and hope the bad guy got caught when something awful happened to a little one. Now, I realize that most of the time it’s not just a bad guy, it’s the very people that the little ones depend on that are responsible. It’s like an epidemic. Not a week goes by that we don’t listen to liars trying to gain our sympathy and blame others for their own evil acts. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 28, 2009, 12:04:06 AM
Heres some OT good news on a 17 year old case

http://www.nevadaappeal.com/article/20090827/NEWS/908279985/1070&ParentProfile=1058

Thanks for the post, alagary. I was just about to post it, too. I thought of Haleigh when I heard the news hoping it might provide a glimmer of hope in this case.

Misty's note is curious to me. There's no way a diagnosis can be made based on a single small sample of writing, but I was struck with the cramped lettering style, variance of slant within a single word, and random use of capitals within a single sentence. Also interesting is the misuse of particular letter combinations. I used to tutor children who had been diagnosed with dyslexia, and I don't think I ever had a student above 4th grade that did not spell "taking" as "tacking". I don't know that it would be significant if Misty were dyslexic, but it's a fact that there's a higher incidence of genius within that population than occurs in the non-dyslexic population, and a high IQ is also more common.
not being an argue debate monkey..,,,really?   ::MonkeyAngel::
omg cbb that came off as soooo rude but is was not my intention.   i'm just so  ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 12:04:34 AM
Tonight on NG, Bethany Marshall summed it up about Misty….She’s deceptive, manipulative and arrogant. She actually thought she was smart enough to beat the polygraph.(I’m betting she’s very street smart but well below average intelligence and ignorant, not to mention uneducated) Bethany went on to say that the whole trying to clear her name ploy was nothing but a ruse to try and get the heat off herself by exploiting TES.(Now doesn’t that trick remind you of a certain person). When I watch her snivel and boohoo she reminds me of Susan Smith and we all know how honest she was……Is Ron involved? To me it seems both Ron and Misty are involved but as far as specifics go, I wouldn’t even try to guess what could have happened. The fact that the mobile home doesn’t appear to be a crime scene gives me a ray of hope that this child is alive and well somewhere, but I have my doubts…….

BBM ... "deceptive, manipulative and arrogant." Reminds me of Casey Anthony.



Until I got involved with SM I would feel bad and hope the bad guy got caught when something awful happened to a little one. Now, I realize that most of the time it’s not just a bad guy, it’s the very people that the little ones depend on that are responsible. It’s like an epidemic. Not a week goes by that we don’t listen to liars trying to gain our sympathy and blame others for their own evil acts. 


ITA~that's why LE always tries to rule out family first because statistically speaking they are usually the ones for causing the harm.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 28, 2009, 12:04:51 AM
Heres some OT good news on a 17 year old case

http://www.nevadaappeal.com/article/20090827/NEWS/908279985/1070&ParentProfile=1058

Thanks for the post, alagary. I was just about to post it, too. I thought of Haleigh when I heard the news hoping it might provide a glimmer of hope in this case.

Misty's note is curious to me. There's no way a diagnosis can be made based on a single small sample of writing, but I was struck with the cramped lettering style, variance of slant within a single word, and random use of capitals within a single sentence. Also interesting is the misuse of particular letter combinations. I used to tutor children who had been diagnosed with dyslexia, and I don't think I ever had a student above 4th grade that did not spell "taking" as "tacking". I don't know that it would be significant if Misty were dyslexic, but it's a fact that there's a higher incidence of genius within that population than occurs in the non-dyslexic population, and a high IQ is also more common.
not being an argue debate monkey..,,,really?   ::MonkeyAngel::
omg cbb that came off as soooo rude but it was not my intention.   i'm just so  ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 28, 2009, 12:09:25 AM
Tonight on NG, Bethany Marshall summed it up about Misty….She’s deceptive, manipulative and arrogant. She actually thought she was smart enough to beat the polygraph.(I’m betting she’s very street smart but well below average intelligence and ignorant, not to mention uneducated) Bethany went on to say that the whole trying to clear her name ploy was nothing but a ruse to try and get the heat off herself by exploiting TES.(Now doesn’t that trick remind you of a certain person). When I watch her snivel and boohoo she reminds me of Susan Smith and we all know how honest she was……Is Ron involved? To me it seems both Ron and Misty are involved but as far as specifics go, I wouldn’t even try to guess what could have happened. The fact that the mobile home doesn’t appear to be a crime scene gives me a ray of hope that this child is alive and well somewhere, but I have my doubts…….

BBM ... "deceptive, manipulative and arrogant." Reminds me of Casey Anthony.



Until I got involved with SM I would feel bad and hope the bad guy got caught when something awful happened to a little one. Now, I realize that most of the time it’s not just a bad guy, it’s the very people that the little ones depend on that are responsible. It’s like an epidemic. Not a week goes by that we don’t listen to liars trying to gain our sympathy and blame others for their own evil acts. 


ITA~that's why LE always tries to rule out family first because statistically speaking they are usually the ones for causing the harm.
Thats exactly right, as we can see from most of the missing childrens forums on here, and I think this case is the same also...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 28, 2009, 12:17:37 AM
I can't wait until LE releases the cell records... ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: floridatreasure9 on August 28, 2009, 12:18:28 AM
Hello Everyone, I normally just read here, but I just watched all the videos and read Misty's polygraph and just seen her on the news and I had to jump in here and just say I would Love to go just Slap the Crap out of that little smirked faced idiot!!! and I hope I don't upset anyone but Ron and the rest of his family is just as bad because they are Standing by that little tramp (I don't know if I can say that or not if I can't please forgive me and delete it) I am just so Mad right now right along with the rest of you.

 ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::
back to lurking...sorry for the rant


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on August 28, 2009, 12:19:47 AM
Tonight on NG, Bethany Marshall summed it up about Misty….She’s deceptive, manipulative and arrogant. She actually thought she was smart enough to beat the polygraph.(I’m betting she’s very street smart but well below average intelligence and ignorant, not to mention uneducated) Bethany went on to say that the whole trying to clear her name ploy was nothing but a ruse to try and get the heat off herself by exploiting TES.(Now doesn’t that trick remind you of a certain person). When I watch her snivel and boohoo she reminds me of Susan Smith and we all know how honest she was……Is Ron involved? To me it seems both Ron and Misty are involved but as far as specifics go, I wouldn’t even try to guess what could have happened. The fact that the mobile home doesn’t appear to be a crime scene gives me a ray of hope that this child is alive and well somewhere, but I have my doubts…….

BBM ... "deceptive, manipulative and arrogant." Reminds me of Casey Anthony.



Until I got involved with SM I would feel bad and hope the bad guy got caught when something awful happened to a little one. Now, I realize that most of the time it’s not just a bad guy, it’s the very people that the little ones depend on that are responsible. It’s like an epidemic. Not a week goes by that we don’t listen to liars trying to gain our sympathy and blame others for their own evil acts. 


ITA~that's why LE always tries to rule out family first because statistically speaking they are usually the ones for causing the harm.
Thats exactly right, as we can see from most of the missing childrens forums on here, and I think this case is the same also...


I believe you're right. These people even draw suspicion to themselves by the stupid things they do. I mean, why did Ron get a tatoo and why did Misty and Ron rush to marry. Are they really that dumb or are they so arrogant as to flaunt themselves for all to see?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Tams on August 28, 2009, 12:20:01 AM

Maybe it's my OCD kicking in tonight, or maybe it's just the way that Misty speaks, but the more times I listen to that little clip, the more interesting the words become:

Interviewer:   
"There's things going on with you about Haleigh going missing that you're not telling anybody."

Misty (voice changes at this point, begins to whine/cry):

"There's nothing I'm not telling nobody.  Cause I didn't have nothing to do with her.

I loved that little girl more than anything.

I would never hurt her.  If I knew who hurt her, I would tell.

EXACTLY...............those were the 2 points I mentioned upthread ......I rewound it and listened to it over and over before posting it and asking y'all to listen. At least I'm not crazy though ::MonkeyWink::

Oh, I'm sorry IM ... obviously it took a bit for it to sink in with me.    ::MonkeyWink::

It's just so much mass lies that you have to literally listen to every word to get what she is saying ::MonkeyConfused:: but, I'm still confused at whether or not she said I WOULDN'T tell or wood-ah????????

Good evening, monkey friends! Just got home from work . . . trying to get caught up - goodness!

For what it's worth, I hear Misty (in her sniveling hillbillyish vernacular) saying "...if ah knew anythin' ah WOULDA TELLED." JMHO . . .

Also, where is the video that shows more of her hypnosis session? The News video link that I tried from above only showed a tiny snippet of it - mostly showed the voice analysis . . . I must be missing something . . .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on August 28, 2009, 12:22:33 AM
Why are the Cummings family, the grandmothers so supportive of Misty ?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 28, 2009, 12:24:59 AM
Why are the Cummings family, the grandmothers so supportive of Misty ?


Thats the million dollar question.... ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 28, 2009, 12:27:57 AM
Hello Everyone, I normally just read here, but I just watched all the videos and read Misty's polygraph and just seen her on the news and I had to jump in here and just say I would Love to go just Slap the Crap out of that little smirked faced idiot!!! and I hope I don't upset anyone but Ron and the rest of his family is just as bad because they are Standing by that little tramp (I don't know if I can say that or not if I can't please forgive me and delete it) I am just so Mad right now right along with the rest of you.

 ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::
back to lurking...sorry for the rant
its fine, Im about ready to join you in the venture, somebody needs to  make Misty tell the truth, this is getting crazy, she knows and there has to be a way to make her tell.........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 28, 2009, 12:36:10 AM

Maybe it's my OCD kicking in tonight, or maybe it's just the way that Misty speaks, but the more times I listen to that little clip, the more interesting the words become:

Interviewer:   
"There's things going on with you about Haleigh going missing that you're not telling anybody."

Misty (voice changes at this point, begins to whine/cry):

"There's nothing I'm not telling nobody.  Cause I didn't have nothing to do with her.

I loved that little girl more than anything.

I would never hurt her.  If I knew who hurt her, I would tell.

EXACTLY...............those were the 2 points I mentioned upthread ......I rewound it and listened to it over and over before posting it and asking y'all to listen. At least I'm not crazy though ::MonkeyWink::

Oh, I'm sorry IM ... obviously it took a bit for it to sink in with me.    ::MonkeyWink::

It's just so much mass lies that you have to literally listen to every word to get what she is saying ::MonkeyConfused:: but, I'm still confused at whether or not she said I WOULDN'T tell or wood-ah????????

Good evening, monkey friends! Just got home from work . . . trying to get caught up - goodness!

For what it's worth, I hear Misty (in her sniveling hillbillyish vernacular) saying "...if ah knew anythin' ah WOULDA TELLED." JMHO . . .

Also, where is the video that shows more of her hypnosis session? The News video link that I tried from above only showed a tiny snippet of it - mostly showed the voice analysis . . . I must be missing something . . .
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?maven_playerId=immersiveplayer&maven_referralPlaylistId=eba00a87d996b4b3a0f46791cbef43367513e061&maven_referralObject=1229749681

Here's a good one of it....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 12:36:35 AM
Tonight on NG, Bethany Marshall summed it up about Misty….She’s deceptive, manipulative and arrogant. She actually thought she was smart enough to beat the polygraph.(I’m betting she’s very street smart but well below average intelligence and ignorant, not to mention uneducated) Bethany went on to say that the whole trying to clear her name ploy was nothing but a ruse to try and get the heat off herself by exploiting TES.(Now doesn’t that trick remind you of a certain person). When I watch her snivel and boohoo she reminds me of Susan Smith and we all know how honest she was……Is Ron involved? To me it seems both Ron and Misty are involved but as far as specifics go, I wouldn’t even try to guess what could have happened. The fact that the mobile home doesn’t appear to be a crime scene gives me a ray of hope that this child is alive and well somewhere, but I have my doubts…….

BBM ... "deceptive, manipulative and arrogant." Reminds me of Casey Anthony.



Until I got involved with SM I would feel bad and hope the bad guy got caught when something awful happened to a little one. Now, I realize that most of the time it’s not just a bad guy, it’s the very people that the little ones depend on that are responsible. It’s like an epidemic. Not a week goes by that we don’t listen to liars trying to gain our sympathy and blame others for their own evil acts. 


ITA~that's why LE always tries to rule out family first because statistically speaking they are usually the ones for causing the harm.
Thats exactly right, as we can see from most of the missing childrens forums on here, and I think this case is the same also...


I believe you're right. These people even draw suspicion to themselves by the stupid things they do. I mean, why did Ron get a tatoo and why did Misty and Ron rush to marry. Are they really that dumb or are they so arrogant  as to flaunt themselves for all to see?

You hit the nail on the head, according to Clint Van Zandt who has blogged about this case early on, he has much to say about Ron's arrogance and Misty too. It's worth a look if you want to see it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on August 28, 2009, 12:36:56 AM
Hello Everyone, I normally just read here, but I just watched all the videos and read Misty's polygraph and just seen her on the news and I had to jump in here and just say I would Love to go just Slap the Crap out of that little smirked faced idiot!!! and I hope I don't upset anyone but Ron and the rest of his family is just as bad because they are Standing by that little tramp (I don't know if I can say that or not if I can't please forgive me and delete it) I am just so Mad right now right along with the rest of you.

 ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::
back to lurking...sorry for the rant
its fine, Im about ready to join you in the venture, somebody needs to  make Misty tell the truth, this is getting crazy, she knows and there has to be a way to make her tell.........


I just can't get past Ron and Misty getting married. If Misty knows more then so does Ron in my opinion.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 12:37:48 AM
Why are the Cummings family, the grandmothers so supportive of Misty ?


Thats the million dollar question.... ::MonkeyBike::

Why yes it is  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: floridatreasure9 on August 28, 2009, 12:40:31 AM
Hello Everyone, I normally just read here, but I just watched all the videos and read Misty's polygraph and just seen her on the news and I had to jump in here and just say I would Love to go just Slap the Crap out of that little smirked faced idiot!!! and I hope I don't upset anyone but Ron and the rest of his family is just as bad because they are Standing by that little tramp (I don't know if I can say that or not if I can't please forgive me and delete it) I am just so Mad right now right along with the rest of you.

 ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::
back to lurking...sorry for the rant
its fine, Im about ready to join you in the venture, somebody needs to  make Misty tell the truth, this is getting crazy, she knows and there has to be a way to make her tell.........

Hi HH and thanks ...It just is so wrong the way they all are saying Misty is a good girl and has done nothing wrong !! I don't understand how they can stand to be around her unless they are like her...At first I thought maybe they (Grandmothers) was just trying to be nice to her to try and find out something, but I don't think that any more..not after today..I guess I did come on a little strong...but it is how I feel..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on August 28, 2009, 12:42:25 AM

You hit the nail on the head, according to Clint Van Zandt who has blogged about this case early on, he has much to say about Ron's arrogance and Misty too. It's worth a look if you want to see it.



Thanks for that info, I would be interested. There seems to be so much going on here. Ron and his control issues, the feud between the parents, the drugs and who knows what else.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: floridatreasure9 on August 28, 2009, 12:42:49 AM
Hello Everyone, I normally just read here, but I just watched all the videos and read Misty's polygraph and just seen her on the news and I had to jump in here and just say I would Love to go just Slap the Crap out of that little smirked faced idiot!!! and I hope I don't upset anyone but Ron and the rest of his family is just as bad because they are Standing by that little tramp (I don't know if I can say that or not if I can't please forgive me and delete it) I am just so Mad right now right along with the rest of you.

 ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::
back to lurking...sorry for the rant
its fine, Im about ready to join you in the venture, somebody needs to  make Misty tell the truth, this is getting crazy, she knows and there has to be a way to make her tell.........


I just can't get past Ron and Misty getting married. If Misty knows more then so does Ron in my opinion.

Yep I totaly agree


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 28, 2009, 12:47:18 AM
Hello Everyone, I normally just read here, but I just watched all the videos and read Misty's polygraph and just seen her on the news and I had to jump in here and just say I would Love to go just Slap the Crap out of that little smirked faced idiot!!! and I hope I don't upset anyone but Ron and the rest of his family is just as bad because they are Standing by that little tramp (I don't know if I can say that or not if I can't please forgive me and delete it) I am just so Mad right now right along with the rest of you.

 ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::
back to lurking...sorry for the rant
its fine, Im about ready to join you in the venture, somebody needs to  make Misty tell the truth, this is getting crazy, she knows and there has to be a way to make her tell.........


I just can't get past Ron and Misty getting married. If Misty knows more then so does Ron in my opinion.

Yep I totaly agree

I cant get past the 911 call , the Greta interview and the Today show interview...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on August 28, 2009, 12:51:49 AM
I really haven't been exposed to Tim Miller all that much. It started with the Caylee case and then I read about other cases he has helped with so I learned a little more about him. He seems to me like a very dedicated advocate for the missing and pretty much stuck with searching for them. But, I have noticed something and since I haven't followed him that closely I thought I would ask a question. Has he worked with LE on the sly in the past? It sure seems like he is helping them behind the scenes in order to draw out the true culprits. I saw it in the Caylee case and I am seeing it again with Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 28, 2009, 12:52:04 AM
We see Ron's women in his life where is his father Jack Cummings been... He so quiet... ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: floridatreasure9 on August 28, 2009, 12:53:41 AM
Hello Everyone, I normally just read here, but I just watched all the videos and read Misty's polygraph and just seen her on the news and I had to jump in here and just say I would Love to go just Slap the Crap out of that little smirked faced idiot!!! and I hope I don't upset anyone but Ron and the rest of his family is just as bad because they are Standing by that little tramp (I don't know if I can say that or not if I can't please forgive me and delete it) I am just so Mad right now right along with the rest of you.

 ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::
back to lurking...sorry for the rant
its fine, Im about ready to join you in the venture, somebody needs to  make Misty tell the truth, this is getting crazy, she knows and there has to be a way to make her tell.........


I just can't get past Ron and Misty getting married. If Misty knows more then so does Ron in my opinion.

Yep I totaly agree

I cant get past the 911 call , the Greta interview and the Today show interview...

Ture JG it is everything...but seeing her today smiling, laughing then crying  ...if she was truly crying it was only for herself...  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 28, 2009, 12:56:28 AM
Hello Everyone, I normally just read here, but I just watched all the videos and read Misty's polygraph and just seen her on the news and I had to jump in here and just say I would Love to go just Slap the Crap out of that little smirked faced idiot!!! and I hope I don't upset anyone but Ron and the rest of his family is just as bad because they are Standing by that little tramp (I don't know if I can say that or not if I can't please forgive me and delete it) I am just so Mad right now right along with the rest of you.

 ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::
back to lurking...sorry for the rant
its fine, Im about ready to join you in the venture, somebody needs to  make Misty tell the truth, this is getting crazy, she knows and there has to be a way to make her tell.........

Hi HH and thanks ...It just is so wrong the way they all are saying Misty is a good girl and has done nothing wrong !! I don't understand how they can stand to be around her unless they are like her...At first I thought maybe they (Grandmothers) was just trying to be nice to her to try and find out something, but I don't think that any more..not after today..I guess I did come on a little strong...but it is how I feel..
I cant get past that either, there is something more to this story then we know right now, so many lies and stuff that we have heard has buried the truth somewhere and made things even harder to figure out, but I do believe things are about to blow, Misty will cave under this presure and with trying to make hereself look better she will , at some point , mess up and let the cat out of the bag....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 28, 2009, 12:56:31 AM
Hello Everyone, I normally just read here, but I just watched all the videos and read Misty's polygraph and just seen her on the news and I had to jump in here and just say I would Love to go just Slap the Crap out of that little smirked faced idiot!!! and I hope I don't upset anyone but Ron and the rest of his family is just as bad because they are Standing by that little tramp (I don't know if I can say that or not if I can't please forgive me and delete it) I am just so Mad right now right along with the rest of you.

 ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::
back to lurking...sorry for the rant
its fine, Im about ready to join you in the venture, somebody needs to  make Misty tell the truth, this is getting crazy, she knows and there has to be a way to make her tell.........


I just can't get past Ron and Misty getting married. If Misty knows more then so does Ron in my opinion.

Yep I totaly agree

I cant get past the 911 call , the Greta interview and the Today show interview...

Ture JG it is everything...but seeing her today smiling, laughing then crying  ...if she was truly crying it was only for herself...  ::MonkeyNoNo::

ITA.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 12:56:57 AM

You hit the nail on the head, according to Clint Van Zandt who has blogged about this case early on, he has much to say about Ron's arrogance and Misty too. It's worth a look if you want to see it.



Thanks for that info, I would be interested. There seems to be so much going on here. Ron and his control issues, the feud between the parents, the drugs and who knows what else.

ITA with every thing you just stated........I'm going to repost his comments to bloggers for you. I posted these last month, I highlighted his answers in red to the Q's (also some from Pat)


CLint Van Zandt:

http://clintvanzandt.newsvine.com/_news/2009/02/16/2441536-update-teenage-caretaker-of-missing-5-year-old-florida-girl-says-i-didnt-do-it
 
Sheriff's investigators, Florida Department of Law Enforcement officials, FBI Agents, criminal profilers and others are involved in a race against the clock to find missing Haleigh Cummings and, unfortunately, it is the clock and not the good guys that are winning the race. We can only hope for a positive conclusion to this case, but again, we know the odds are against this.
 
Cat,
I've seen spys and murderers pass polygraphs and seemingly innocent people come up deceptive (see my past msnbc.com article "Do Lie Detectors Lie?" at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7992482/, and since we have the father's characterization of the two of them "passing," this without law enforcement confirmation, I'm not ready to give them a pass on this case, especially with the circumstances as they currently appear. While the father's behavior appears crude but otherwise appropriate, many question his girlfriend's affect, or lack thereof. While, as my article suggests, there are a number of scenarios to explain what happen to the little girl, the two adults in the home still have explaining to do.
Best,
CVZ
Clint Van ZandtJodi,
I fully believe that the investigators are continuing to look at the father and the teenager.
Best,
CVZ  Diane-914336
It is a shame that another young child is missing. The entire family on both sides appear to be uneducated and very poor. Makes you wonder how they afford the cigarettes they are puffing away on. Sorry, some people should not reproduce.
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#13 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:01 PM EST
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Clint Van Zandt
Diane,
The father was very educated on how he was allowd to ue physical punish on his daughter per the Fla Dept of Soc Svs. His own form of "I got you" to the State.
Best,
CVZ  {"commentId":5596336,"threadId":"502675","contentId":"2441536","authorDomain":"clintvanzandt"}
1 vote
·         Clint Van Zandt
·         Native,
·         They are still using cadaver dogs and as far as the initial search of the trailer, I saw (on TV) investigators going in and out of the trailer without the requisite white suits, but that may have been after the CSI team went through. Usually we would recommend they search for a body disposal site anywhere around where a suspect may have worked or where he otherwise knew his way around the area.
·         
·         Best,
·         CVZ  ·         {"commentId":5719195,"authorDomain":"clintvanzandt"}
·         Clint Van Zandt
·         Lynn,
·         You are right, I believe, in that the key to Haleigh's disappearance rests with Misty and Ronald. They, are someone they know, will ultimately be fould responsible for whatever happened to the little girl, a story that is repeated far too often in this country...
·         Thanks for your comments!
·         CVZ  
Clint Van Zandt
Kimm,
And Misty, the current girlfriend of the father, is but one of a string of 17 year old girlfriends he's allegedly had... Social Services really has its hands full in so many areas.
CVZ
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1 vote
#17.1 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 7:43 PM EST
 
 
 
  CVZ
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1 vote
 
#19 - Fri Mar 6, 2009 10:28 AM EST
 
 
Clint Van Zandt
Kim,
I am sorry for your loss. Who better than you could suggest how someone would "normally" respond to the loss of their child. My experience investigating kidnappings is that I usually encountered parents like you and your husband, couples that were shell shocked when their child was first kidnapped, and were afraid to even leave their home for lunch for fear their child would call or somehow show up and they not be there to greet their missing child.
While no one can suggest what the behavior of another should be, there are certain standards of response that are normal and what we see from Ron and his new bride do not fit that known standard.
Regards,  CVZ
Angellica,
It are good insincts like yours that keep you safe and life and help investigators solve cases. Misty looks like a scared little kid under the control of a tryant.
Best,
CVZ  mommy of 5
As a mother of 5, I don't think that anyone or anything would stand in the way of finding my child. Especially a WEDDING. God knows the truth, and someday we will too. Just to think that a wedding is more important than searching for my daughter. That is foolish. And as far as the interview is concerned...I would have done it from the back yard of my home, not hopped on a plane to NY. What were they thinking? I know in my heart that my husband would not pay any attention to anything other than finding his little girl, but I guess if you are involved the best thing to do is stay away I guess. I would be in those fields searching with the police to find my little girl.
I just have one question...What is wrong with people today?
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1 vote
#47 - Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:45 AM EDT
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Clint Van Zandt
Mommy of 5,
I believe that too many people believe the world begins and ends at the end of their own nose. They could really care less about others. While this goes along with part of the definition of a sociopath, it also speaks of someone who never learned to be a good human being, much less a good parent. Chldren are a gift and far too many people do not appreciate the gift they have.
Best,
CVZ  Bob Miler
Just a random thought.
If the father was at work he obviously clocked out or was seen leaving and the Police know when the call came and how long it took to get home. So if they called Police right when he got home that doesn't leave much time for him to be involved in anything does it?
I definetly believe something fishy but also believe the Police know what it is.
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1 vote
#49 - Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:12 PM EDT
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Clint Van Zandt
Bob,
Correct unless whatever happened, happened before he went to work and Misty was told to wait until the end of his work shift to call police. When the missing child was last seen by anyone other than the "two adults" in the home would be important, plus any physical evidence from the father's vehicle to suggest any side type trip, one that would be off the beaten path that he traveled back and forth to work. It is a time line that police need for the lask known 24 hours in the victim's life that would help resolve the case.
Best,
CVZ  AAraoz, Mary and other reasonable readers,
The most absurd part of this in Ron and Misty's belief that they could marry and fly off to NYC and it wouldn't point the finger at them. The combination of stupidity and arrogance is overwhelming!
CVZ  Clint Van Zandt
Ga-nana,
I think you are right, one of the two will crack or make a mistake. Misty already blew the interview on the Today Show, and her new husband is just too smug to be able to pull this off.
Also the issue of his mom being his alibi, we'll see if that holds water...
Best,
CVZ  {"commentId":5971977,"threadId":"526744","contentId":"2542581","authorDomain":"clintvanzandt"}
1 vote
 
#58.1 - Mon Mar 16, 2009 5:07
 
Mary-962194
Ron Cummings is just too quick and too smug with his answer "I don't know, I was at work".   This sounds like it was a planned alibi.  One he knew would stand because he was always at work at that time.    How odd that Misty woke up just before time for him to come home and for them to make the 911 call.   Everything just seems to be timed too perfert.
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#59 - Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:39 PM EDT
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Clint Van Zandt
Mary,
Almost as if it has all been orchestrated and Ron is proud of how he put this all together...
Best,
CVZ  Clint Van Zandt
BCH,
Good catch! That and any past tense reference, like "she would have wanted me to get married," are possible clues to either his guilty knowledge or his stupidity, or both...
Tks,
CVZ  {"commentId":6130213,"authorDomain":"clintvanzandt"}
Clint Van Zandt
Meadow...,
There are a lot of questions left unanswered here and of the two that apparently have the answers, one is too grightened to talk and the second too smug to talk.
Be Safe,
CVZ  Clint Van Zandt
Ronda,
I think you've hit upon the fact that the entire family, up and down, is disfunctional, and the children are the ones that suffer the most. While no one is perfect and most of us who are parents and grandparents have made our share of mistakes, most of us really try. In the case of Ron, Crystal and his new wife, the children had three strikes against them to begin with. Ron, Jr., has survived physically, but mentally will be another thing.
CVZ
Clint Van Zandt
concerned,
While I share your caution on rushing to judgement, we each compare the behavior that we see with what we would expect from ourselves or from others. While we know it is wrong to compare, it is, nonetheless, part of life. When some over the top talk shows dedicate their nightly program to such cases, and when over 1 million people watch to get their crime fix, we know, unfortunately, such are human interest stories. As far as amateur detectives, it would appear that even the real world investigators are challenged by such cases. Even though you get a feeling after years of working these cases, you still know that you need to develop proof beyond a reasonable doubt or all you have is that feeling, one that does not convict, though the media does an interest job in the court of public opinion. Many people live vicariously through such cases, hoping beyond hope at times that they can somehow help solve the case and bring the victim home safe. Good thoughts, but not very realistic in nature.
I believe in your prayers; hopefully they will bring the answer that so many now seek.
Best,
CVZ  

PAT BROWN:

Pat Brown said...
I find Ronald Cummings reactions and statements a bit odd. The most recent comments to the press:

"Ronald Cummings also said he doesn't suspect his 17-year-old girlfriend did anything wrong the night Haleigh disappeared.

"I don't have any suspicions of anybody," Cummings said. "Obviously, if I knew what was going on, I would have my daughter."

Why would he have no suspicions of anyone or have any feeling the girlfriend could be involved? Usually the opposite is the problem....that you start suspecting everyone, especially the girlfriend you called a bitch and so many think are lying. As much of a control freak as this guy is and the fact he doesn't seem to worry much whether people like him, it is surprisingly he wouldn't be vicious toward his girlfriend if he had the slightest inkling she was lying.

Something doesn't add up here with Mr. Cummings.
February 20, 2009 12:34 PM
 
 
Pat Brown said...
The father is twenty-five. I don't think it is a big issue that the girl is seventeen in that she is not in school nor living with her parents and the emotional age between the two is not that great. The bigger problem is the involvement of social services in the family life which indicates there are issues within the home that have put the children's health and welfare at risk in the past. History is a great indicator of future issues whether they be neglect or abuse.
February 20, 2009 3:10 PM
 
 
Pat Brown said...
As disgusting as the Geraldo interview was with Ronald Cummings, I did find it fascinating that Ronald claimed he NEVER has used drugs, he has NEVER been abusive, that he NEVER sold drugs. If it turns out that he has lied about any of these issues, then we will have an example of how someone can stand in front of a camera and lie with total boldness. And, if he did lie about these things, does that mean he has lied about what happened to his daughter as well? I am looking forward to finding out what the truth is about Ronald Cummings. It will be very educational.
February 24, 2009 12:22 PM








These echo my sentiments and pattern of facts/actions that make no sense to me, and this is just a fraction of my list.........





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on August 28, 2009, 12:57:21 AM
Hello Everyone, I normally just read here, but I just watched all the videos and read Misty's polygraph and just seen her on the news and I had to jump in here and just say I would Love to go just Slap the Crap out of that little smirked faced idiot!!! and I hope I don't upset anyone but Ron and the rest of his family is just as bad because they are Standing by that little tramp (I don't know if I can say that or not if I can't please forgive me and delete it) I am just so Mad right now right along with the rest of you.

 ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::
back to lurking...sorry for the rant
its fine, Im about ready to join you in the venture, somebody needs to  make Misty tell the truth, this is getting crazy, she knows and there has to be a way to make her tell.........


I just can't get past Ron and Misty getting married. If Misty knows more then so does Ron in my opinion.

Yep I totaly agree

I cant get past the 911 call , the Greta interview and the Today show interview...



Yes, the honeymoon interview where Misty didn't know why she kept changing her story.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 28, 2009, 12:57:45 AM
We see Ron's women in his life where is his father Jack Cummings been... He so quiet... ::MonkeyRoll::
He's probab;y too embarrassed to say he is Ron's father....IMO.....he might be the smartest one of all.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 12:58:29 AM
Hello Everyone, I normally just read here, but I just watched all the videos and read Misty's polygraph and just seen her on the news and I had to jump in here and just say I would Love to go just Slap the Crap out of that little smirked faced idiot!!! and I hope I don't upset anyone but Ron and the rest of his family is just as bad because they are Standing by that little tramp (I don't know if I can say that or not if I can't please forgive me and delete it) I am just so Mad right now right along with the rest of you.

 ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::
back to lurking...sorry for the rant
its fine, Im about ready to join you in the venture, somebody needs to  make Misty tell the truth, this is getting crazy, she knows and there has to be a way to make her tell.........


I just can't get past Ron and Misty getting married. If Misty knows more then so does Ron in my opinion.

Yep I totaly agree

ITA too!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 28, 2009, 01:06:21 AM
I think it was on JVM where she asked Ron did he ask Misty about the inconsistancies and he stated ... No I did not ask her... I am thinking what do you mean you did not ask her its your daughter that you love so much who is missing under her care  and you did not ask her...
I wonder who is going to throw who under the bus first to save themself.. Ron on Misty or Misty on Ron.... ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 28, 2009, 01:08:27 AM
I think it was on JVM where she asked Ron did he ask Misty about the inconsistancies and he stated ... No I did not ask her... I am thinking what do you mean you did not ask her its your daughter that you love so much who is missing under her care  and you did not ask her...
I wonder who is going to throw who under the bus first to save themself.. Ron on Misty or Misty on Ron.... ::MonkeyEek::
I think Misty will eventually hang them both.......she just cant stand for people to talk about her and she wants to talk back and so I think she will be the one to eventually say something damning,,


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 01:08:51 AM
I think it was on JVM where she asked Ron did he ask Misty about the inconsistancies and he stated ... No I did not ask her... I am thinking what do you mean you did not ask her its your daughter that you love so much who is missing under her care  and you did not ask her...
I wonder who is going to throw who under the bus first to save themself.. Ron on Misty or Misty on Ron.... ::MonkeyEek::

I'm going with a toss up on that one ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on August 28, 2009, 01:08:59 AM
Thanks Island, these answers were especially helpful……..

snipped

You are right, I believe, in that the key to Haleigh's disappearance rests with Misty and Ronald. They, are someone they know, will ultimately be fould responsible for whatever happened to the little girl, a story that is repeated far too often in this country...
•         Thanks for your comments!

The most absurd part of this in Ron and Misty's belief that they could marry and fly off to NYC and it wouldn't point the finger at them. The combination of stupidity and arrogance is overwhelming!


I think you are right, one of the two will crack or make a mistake. Misty already blew the interview on the Today Show, and her new husband is just too smug to be able to pull this off

Almost as if it has all been orchestrated and Ron is proud of how he put this all together...
Best,


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 28, 2009, 01:11:26 AM
Hello Everyone, I normally just read here, but I just watched all the videos and read Misty's polygraph and just seen her on the news and I had to jump in here and just say I would Love to go just Slap the Crap out of that little smirked faced idiot!!! and I hope I don't upset anyone but Ron and the rest of his family is just as bad because they are Standing by that little tramp (I don't know if I can say that or not if I can't please forgive me and delete it) I am just so Mad right now right along with the rest of you.

 ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::  ::MonkeyMad::
back to lurking...sorry for the rant
its fine, Im about ready to join you in the venture, somebody needs to  make Misty tell the truth, this is getting crazy, she knows and there has to be a way to make her tell.........


I just can't get past Ron and Misty getting married. If Misty knows more then so does Ron in my opinion.

Yep I totaly agree

I cant get past the 911 call , the Greta interview and the Today show interview...



Yes, the honeymoon interview where Misty didn't know why she kept changing her story.....

And how she looked at Ron hoping he would step in but he did nothing...Let it all fall on her...
IMO hes setting her up to take the fall.. They will turn on each other...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on August 28, 2009, 01:12:51 AM
I think it was on JVM where she asked Ron did he ask Misty about the inconsistancies and he stated ... No I did not ask her... I am thinking what do you mean you did not ask her its your daughter that you love so much who is missing under her care  and you did not ask her...
I wonder who is going to throw who under the bus first to save themself.. Ron on Misty or Misty on Ron.... ::MonkeyEek::
I think Misty will eventually hang them both.......she just cant stand for people to talk about her and she wants to talk back and so I think she will be the one to eventually say something damning,,



LE is putting pressure on her and if I'm right, Tim Miller just helped them put on more. They're out break her cause she's the weakest link.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 28, 2009, 01:14:27 AM
Im wondering if they checked under Misty's nails for evidence, I saw that picture on NG earlier when she had the ring on at the courthouse and I think she would probably still have stuff under them from 6 months ago,   yukkkkkk


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 28, 2009, 01:18:38 AM
I think it was on JVM where she asked Ron did he ask Misty about the inconsistancies and he stated ... No I did not ask her... I am thinking what do you mean you did not ask her its your daughter that you love so much who is missing under her care  and you did not ask her...
I wonder who is going to throw who under the bus first to save themself.. Ron on Misty or Misty on Ron.... ::MonkeyEek::
I think Misty will eventually hang them both.......she just cant stand for people to talk about her and she wants to talk back and so I think she will be the one to eventually say something damning,,

I hope so... ::MonkeyTongue::



LE is putting pressure on her and if I'm right, Tim Miller just helped them put on more. They're out break her cause she's the weakest link.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 28, 2009, 01:21:19 AM
Im wondering if they checked under Misty's nails for evidence, I saw that picture on NG earlier when she had the ring on at the courthouse and I think she would probably still have stuff under them from 6 months ago,   yukkkkkk

EWWWWWW... ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: floridatreasure9 on August 28, 2009, 01:25:24 AM
Good Night Sweet Monkeys...   ::MonkeyAngel::
 
 GOD Bless HaLeigh   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 28, 2009, 01:33:31 AM
Good Night Sweet Monkeys...   ::MonkeyAngel::
 
 GOD Bless HaLeigh   ::MonkeyAngel::
Good Night........good to talk to you, see you soon.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 28, 2009, 01:34:31 AM
I second that...

Good Night Sweet Monkeys...

Prayer for Haleigh... ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on August 28, 2009, 01:34:38 AM
Good Night Sweet Monkeys...   ::MonkeyAngel::
 
 GOD Bless HaLeigh   ::MonkeyAngel::
Good Night........good to talk to you, see you soon.



Good night all!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: jules3699 on August 28, 2009, 01:41:40 AM
Hi all!!  Dont know if this was posted still trying to catch up...

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/New-Information-Search-for-Haleigh/f4BROSu5UEi0ss9PRqS07w.cspx

SATSUMA, Fla. -- We have new information in the Haleigh Cummings case.  Action News has learned the missing girl's stepmother, Misty Croslin Cummings, has recently taken at least three polygraph tests.  And according to the website of the group that administered the tests, Eqqusearch, Misty failed "miserably."

Misty was the last person to see Haleigh the night she disappeared.  And news that she may have lied about what really happened that February night doesn't exactly come as a shock to people close to the case.  They think the truth may finally be coming out.

Family friend Amy Sutton said, "I think it's starting to come out and I think she's starting to get scared that police are gonna find out she had something to do with it."


Eqqusearch, an independent search team, has been back in Satsuma recently looking for clues.  According to its website, Misty submitted to polygraph tests, a voice analysis test, even hypnosis.  It says Misty failed the tests, leading investigators believe the teenager holds the key to this case.

A journalist was allowed in the room while Misty Cummings was given the series of polygraph tests.  According to him, Misty broke down in tears as she talked about her own sexual abuse at the hands of family members.  Those tests were video taped.  The tapes have not yet been released to the public.
 

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cartfly on August 28, 2009, 03:22:13 AM
Kudos to you Tim Miller w/Equisearch!! I hope you break this little wench (Fibsty)  in two and bring justice to this little angel!!!  ::MonkeySlide:: ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on August 28, 2009, 05:34:27 AM
I think it was on JVM where she asked Ron did he ask Misty about the inconsistancies and he stated ... No I did not ask her... I am thinking what do you mean you did not ask her its your daughter that you love so much who is missing under her care  and you did not ask her...
I wonder who is going to throw who under the bus first to save themself.. Ron on Misty or Misty on Ron.... ::MonkeyEek::

They were both asked the same question by Meredith Viera and when Misty replied 'I don't know" as to why her stories were inconsistent-  nothing happened..... I kept waiting for the follow up but nada! 
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cherjers on August 28, 2009, 07:07:58 AM
good morning - I have a question-If Misty has all these inconsistencies why hasn't Le arrested her.  Couldn't they arrest her on obstructions charges if not murder.  It is my understand you can refuse to talk to LE but if  you lie that is a crime.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 28, 2009, 07:20:08 AM
Misty Cummings: 'I'm 17-Years-Old, What Do You Think?'

At one point, private investigator T.J. Ward, who conducted the test, pressed Misty Cummings for answers.

"I don't know what your're trying to get out of me. I'm 17-years-old, what do you think? Come on! How much do you think a 17-year-old can take?" Misty Cummings asked Ward as she cried.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=144010&catid=3


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Post by: Heart on August 28, 2009, 07:27:28 AM
Lie Detector Test Administrator Questions Misty

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The man who gave Haleigh Cummings' stepmother her lie detector test on Monday says he's sure she was lying about what happened the night the little girl vanished from her Satsuma home.

Misty Croslin was the last person to see Haleigh in February.  She went to a private investigator to clear her name.

But that investigator, TJ Ward, tells our news partner Channel 4 he let Crosslin tell the story in her own words and there was no mistaking the results.

"I can see from pertinent questions and answers that she had given me, and her responses, that not only was she not telling me the truth, there was a lot of inaccuracies.  And there was a lot of things she didn't tell me completely".

http://wokv.com/localnews/2009/08/lie-detector-test-administrato.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cherjers on August 28, 2009, 07:31:19 AM
ticks me off that she is saying that her and Ron will have nothing more to do with Tim Miller...huh?? why isn't Ron saying that he will have nothing more to do with Misty?  ::MonkeyConfused::
  I like the part where she says she is only 17- she is living with a man-she is the self proclaimed mother of this children is married- I think she likes playing the little girl part-she is no innocent 17- life experience tells me she is like a 40 year old-that crying voice of hers everytime she talks gets in my nerves.  Ron is either a moron or he knows more then he is saying.  Did Ron pass a poly-if so then I guess he is a moron.   


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Post by: Blue Moon on August 28, 2009, 08:10:51 AM
Misty Cummings: 'I'm 17-Years-Old, What Do You Think?'

At one point, private investigator T.J. Ward, who conducted the test, pressed Misty Cummings for answers.

"I don't know what your're trying to get out of me. I'm 17-years-old, what do you think? Come on! How much do you think a 17-year-old can take?" Misty Cummings asked Ward as she cried.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=144010&catid=3

I saw this clip this morning on fox news.  My thoughts:  WTF.  She is ONLY 17 years old.  She was old enough to be put in complete control of two young children.  Now one is gone.  The little boy needs to be put in a foster home.  Sorry, but NO ONE in this is clean including the grandparents.  Everyone is complicent for leaving those children in the hands of a druggie.  IF she was out partying all weekend long Ron and his mother/gmother should have pull those children away from her and sent her on her way.  This is disgusting.  This little girl has gotten in over her head and her new husband knows what happened.  He may have been involved in it also what with his hot temper.  JMO  JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 28, 2009, 08:16:26 AM
Pics by poster Ger of the Emergency Court Hearing for Jr.C. to receive counseling with therapist

http://haleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/index.php?topic=306.0;all


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Post by: Heart on August 28, 2009, 08:26:38 AM
O/T

Two years in prison for molesting children
   
Written by Jim McGauley   
Wednesday, 26 August 2009

Image
Micah Cranford

An 18-year-old Macclenny man will serve two years in state prison after pleading no contest earlier to molesting two children over an eight-month period in 2008.

Micah Thomas Cranford had made the plea agreement in June and Circuit Judge James Nilon imposed sentence during the criminal docket session on August 24. The case was continued pending the results of a pre-sentence investigation.

Mr. Cranford, an honor student at Baker County High School, a member of the honors band, Boy Scouts and drama club, pleaded to lewd and lascivious acts on a 7-year-old girl and attempted lewd acts on a 5-year-old. The incidents took place between January-August, and the case stemmed from an individual who had been counseling the defendant and his family.

Judge Nilon placed Mr. Cranford on a 10-year sexual offender probation upon release from prison, and he will be required to register as a sex offender. He was charged as an adult though only 17 at the time of his arrest.


http://bakercountypress.com/index.php?id=574&task=blogcategory&option=com_content&Itemid=80


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Post by: theboyzmom on August 28, 2009, 08:47:08 AM
O/T

Two years in prison for molesting children
   
Written by Jim McGauley   
Wednesday, 26 August 2009

Image
Micah Cranford

An 18-year-old Macclenny man will serve two years in state prison after pleading no contest earlier to molesting two children over an eight-month period in 2008.

Micah Thomas Cranford had made the plea agreement in June and Circuit Judge James Nilon imposed sentence during the criminal docket session on August 24. The case was continued pending the results of a pre-sentence investigation.

Mr. Cranford, an honor student at Baker County High School, a member of the honors band, Boy Scouts and drama club, pleaded to lewd and lascivious acts on a 7-year-old girl and attempted lewd acts on a 5-year-old. The incidents took place between January-August, and the case stemmed from an individual who had been counseling the defendant and his family.

Judge Nilon placed Mr. Cranford on a 10-year sexual offender probation upon release from prison, and he will be required to register as a sex offender. He was charged as an adult though only 17 at the time of his arrest.


http://bakercountypress.com/index.php?id=574&task=blogcategory&option=com_content&Itemid=80

Sad that this person only gets two years when his victim  is sentenced to life.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 09:03:59 AM
O/T

Two years in prison for molesting children
   
Written by Jim McGauley   
Wednesday, 26 August 2009

Image
Micah Cranford

An 18-year-old Macclenny man will serve two years in state prison after pleading no contest earlier to molesting two children over an eight-month period in 2008.

Micah Thomas Cranford had made the plea agreement in June and Circuit Judge James Nilon imposed sentence during the criminal docket session on August 24. The case was continued pending the results of a pre-sentence investigation.

Mr. Cranford, an honor student at Baker County High School, a member of the honors band, Boy Scouts and drama club, pleaded to lewd and lascivious acts on a 7-year-old girl and attempted lewd acts on a 5-year-old. The incidents took place between January-August, and the case stemmed from an individual who had been counseling the defendant and his family.

Judge Nilon placed Mr. Cranford on a 10-year sexual offender probation upon release from prison, and he will be required to register as a sex offender. He was charged as an adult though only 17 at the time of his arrest.


http://bakercountypress.com/index.php?id=574&task=blogcategory&option=com_content&Itemid=80

Sad that this person only gets two years when his victim  is sentenced to life.   ::MonkeyMad::

Amen TBM-or a bullet to the head ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 09:42:10 AM
Pics by poster Ger of the Emergency Court Hearing for Jr.C. to receive counseling with therapist

http://haleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/index.php?topic=306.0;all
Thanks, so now Misty is a POI......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 09:45:52 AM
Pics by poster Ger of the Emergency Court Hearing for Jr.C. to receive counseling with therapist

http://haleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/index.php?topic=306.0;all
Thanks, so now Misty is a POI......

yep-I posted that last night from some news sight, can't remember which one now, but things were crazy so I'm not sure how many even noticed it. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 09:47:06 AM
Pics by poster Ger of the Emergency Court Hearing for Jr.C. to receive counseling with therapist

http://haleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/index.php?topic=306.0;all
Thanks, so now Misty is a POI......

yep-I posted that last night from some news sight, can't remember which one now, but things were crazy so I'm not sure how many even noticed it. ::MonkeyTongue::
I read it just now, trying to catch up. The walls are closing in....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 09:50:41 AM
Pics by poster Ger of the Emergency Court Hearing for Jr.C. to receive counseling with therapist

http://haleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/index.php?topic=306.0;all
Thanks, so now Misty is a POI......

yep-I posted that last night from some news sight, can't remember which one now, but things were crazy so I'm not sure how many even noticed it. ::MonkeyTongue::
I read it just now, trying to catch up. The walls are closing in....

I agree with that, and I think more than one person will be going down........I think she's the weakest link and that's why they are putting so much pressure on her. ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 28, 2009, 09:53:14 AM
Ok, just listened to the polygraph guy questioning her about R's involvement, he tells her he sees doubt when she states he had nothing to do with it and asked her why she had doubts............she states "I don't know why I have doubts"  ::MonkeyDevil2:: Rutto, wrong answer. I thought she'd say "you're wrong, I have no doubts". Very interesting when yiu listen to them over and over and realize you miss those little nuances
Yes, and didn't she say she was looking under the beds, aren't the mattresses on the floor  ::MonkeyRoll::

Given her low level of education and probably limited intelligence,  I don't believe that she is able to grammatically handle a double negative, or know what it means.


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Post by: strayze on August 28, 2009, 10:07:57 AM
Tonight on NG, Bethany Marshall summed it up about Misty….She’s deceptive, manipulative and arrogant. She actually thought she was smart enough to beat the polygraph.(I’m betting she’s very street smart but well below average intelligence and ignorant, not to mention uneducated) Bethany went on to say that the whole trying to clear her name ploy was nothing but a ruse to try and get the heat off herself by exploiting TES.(Now doesn’t that trick remind you of a certain person). When I watch her snivel and boohoo she reminds me of Susan Smith and we all know how honest she was……Is Ron involved? To me it seems both Ron and Misty are involved but as far as specifics go, I wouldn’t even try to guess what could have happened. The fact that the mobile home doesn’t appear to be a crime scene gives me a ray of hope that this child is alive and well somewhere, but I have my doubts…….

I agree on that.  Are there limitations on giving polygraphs to persons of limited intelligence and virtually no education?  That seems reasonable.  First of all, she would have to be able to understand what it is the questioner is asking her, i.e., have the grammatical facility to understand the English language.  Are there interpreters that can be used who can put the questions in a form that mentally challenged persons can understand?  She must also have enough grammatical facility to formulate an answer to the questions. 

All along in this investigation, Misty comes across as a  VERY defensive person.  To me that says a lot.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 28, 2009, 10:28:23 AM
I believe it is important to keep Misty talking, for whatever she says, there is yet another inconsistency, indicating that she is making it up as she goes, and can't remember previous statements she has made.  She can be asked to account for her inconsistencies, whereupon who know what she might say in her rattled state while she is defending herself.  Talk on Misty- - - - .  One would think that Ron could coach her, that is, if she is coachable.  She seems very willing to defend herself stupidly without the presence of her lawyer.  Good try Misty - - - .  I believe the layered voice analysis is a key test here, especially since it is much more reliable than polygraphs.   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 28, 2009, 10:38:08 AM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Exclusive-Misty-Croslin-Cummings-polygraph-tapes/j7-bWzHuekSLPlWFcKCkhA.cspx




Here is the link from the article upthread and there is also a video here...........sorry for the delay, someone rang the doorbell right in the middle if me trying to post.
I heard I wouldn't tell.

Thanks~I thought I was crazier than normal. I appreciate yoiur listening to them. ::MonkeyAngel::

Actually,there was also a transcript of that,she says she had nothing to do with it, if she knew who "hurt" her,she would tell, I am alarmed by what she actually did say, to say the least. that alone was a mouthful. IF Ron and his family are standing by her after that comment alone, then they are idiots.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Sassycat on August 28, 2009, 10:38:47 AM
Pics by poster Ger of the Emergency Court Hearing for Jr.C. to receive counseling with therapist

http://haleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/index.php?topic=306.0;all
Thanks, so now Misty is a POI......

yep-I posted that last night from some news sight, can't remember which one now, but things were crazy so I'm not sure how many even noticed it. ::MonkeyTongue::
I read it just now, trying to catch up. The walls are closing in....

I agree with that, and I think more than one person will be going down........I think she's the weakest link and that's why they are putting so much pressure on her. ::MonkeyDevil2::

Good!   It is about time!               I hope we can find out where Hayleigh is soon.   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 28, 2009, 10:45:22 AM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Exclusive-Misty-Croslin-Cummings-polygraph-tapes/j7-bWzHuekSLPlWFcKCkhA.cspx




Here is the link from the article upthread and there is also a video here...........sorry for the delay, someone rang the doorbell right in the middle if me trying to post.
I heard I wouldn't tell.

Thanks~I thought I was crazier than normal. I appreciate yoiur listening to them. ::MonkeyAngel::

Actually,there was also a transcript of that,she says she had nothing to do with it, if she knew who "hurt" her,she would tell, I am alarmed by what she actually did say, to say the least. that alone was a mouthful. IF Ron and his family are standing by her after that comment alone, then they are idiots.   ::MonkeyMad::

"didn’t have nothing to do with her…I love that little girl more than anything…I’d never hurt her…If I knew who hurt her I’d tell"

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Misty-Croslin-Cummings-polygraph-tapes-released/j7-bWzHuekSLPlWFcKCkhA.cspx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 28, 2009, 11:02:23 AM
Morning Monkeys...
tick tock..tick tock...slowly slowly...we will soon get some answers...Misty is cracking..

If Ron stays with this girl now, then I have to give up on him! I am still leaning towards the belief that he really does not know what happened to Haleigh..not involved...but come on Ron...what more do you want to be said before you turn your back on this girl who is hiding what happened to your beloved daughter?
I said before that I feel that Teresa has broken ranks with Ron/Misty and that is why she contacted the attorney that she did...She no longer believes Misty..granny Sykes won't be far behind her..

does anyone think that if Ron doubts Misty then he will have to face the fact that the person that he trusted with Haleigh is also the person responsible in whatever way for her disappearance and if he admits to that, that he would have to admit to himself that he is partially to blame for allowing Misty to be in charge of his children? that he may be in a position to lose Ron jr. as well through the courts? The guilt of that would weigh heavy on him I would suppose..but he needs to stop protecting Misty and start manning up...jmo...
He is very arrogant and stubborn...but come on..enough is enough...Do it for Haleigh Ron, if not for yourself and the rest of your family....
I just hope that Misty doesn't harm herself before the answers come out on Haleigh..then we may never know and that would be horrible for Haleigh's family and for Haleigh!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 11:12:07 AM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Exclusive-Misty-Croslin-Cummings-polygraph-tapes/j7-bWzHuekSLPlWFcKCkhA.cspx




Here is the link from the article upthread and there is also a video here...........sorry for the delay, someone rang the doorbell right in the middle if me trying to post.
I heard I wouldn't tell.

Thanks~I thought I was crazier than normal. I appreciate yoiur listening to them. ::MonkeyAngel::

Actually,there was also a transcript of that,she says she had nothing to do with it, if she knew who "hurt" her,she would tell, I am alarmed by what she actually did say, to say the least. that alone was a mouthful. IF Ron and his family are standing by her after that comment alone, then they are idiots.   ::MonkeyMad::
I am also, and what I'm really upset about is Jr is still in that house  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 11:19:43 AM
Does anyone know what Radio's Twitter is? Last not I saw a comment about Sykes saying something to the effect that Misty didn't do anything wrong and this is all a sham  ::MonkeyEek::  I don't remember where I read this, could have been InSessions, now I can't find it. Would appreciate help if anyone else saw that, because if that is true  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 28, 2009, 11:44:10 AM
Does anyone know what Radio's Twitter is? Last not I saw a comment about Sykes saying something to the effect that Misty didn't do anything wrong and this is all a sham  ::MonkeyEek::  I don't remember where I read this, could have been InSessions, now I can't find it. Would appreciate help if anyone else saw that, because if that is true  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyShocked::
Well, if this is all a sham, then I'd like to hear just what kind of sham she is talking about......she sounds like Cindy Anthony if she is gonna start upholding a bunch of crap about Misty and Ronald and how someone else is to blame for what happened to HaLeigh.  this is really starting to get on my last nerve, Misty just needs to come clean and Ronald needs to either make her talk or put her azz out on the street and see what happens then. IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 11:54:37 AM
Does anyone know what Radio's Twitter is? Last not I saw a comment about Sykes saying something to the effect that Misty didn't do anything wrong and this is all a sham  ::MonkeyEek::  I don't remember where I read this, could have been InSessions, now I can't find it. Would appreciate help if anyone else saw that, because if that is true  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyShocked::
Well, if this is all a sham, then I'd like to hear just what kind of sham she is talking about......she sounds like Cindy Anthony if she is gonna start upholding a bunch of crap about Misty and Ronald and how someone else is to blame for what happened to HaLeigh.  this is really starting to get on my last nerve, Misty just needs to come clean and Ronald needs to either make her talk or put her azz out on the street and see what happens then. IMO
And darn it, I read this and now can't find it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 12:06:04 PM
She gives lots of detail about the morning of 2/9, but doesn't mention what Jr. was doing all that time. She says they drove to Waleka to get an outfit that Haleigh insisted on wearing, then she and Ron drive Haleigh to school and Misty walks Haleigh to her classroom. No mention of where Jr is.

Then Misty and Ron return home where they sleep till around 11 or 12, when Ron gets up to get ready for work. Where was Jr, when the two of them were sleeping? No way he was sleeping most of the day. Who was watching Jr, while these two slept?







Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 28, 2009, 12:23:09 PM
She gives lots of detail about the morning of 2/9, but doesn't mention what Jr. was doing all that time. She says they drove to Waleka to get an outfit that Haleigh insisted on wearing, then she and Ron drive Haleigh to school and Misty walks Haleigh to her classroom. No mention of where Jr is.

Then Misty and Ron return home where they sleep till around 11 or 12, when Ron gets up to get ready for work. Where was Jr, when the two of them were sleeping? No way he was sleeping most of the day. Who was watching Jr, while these two slept?






Thats something I would like to know also, where was Jr..........and what really gets me about her statements is she says that maybe Crystals family took HaLeigh because she didnt wanna pay child support, well hells bells, what kinda stupid thing was that to say, if someone was gonna take her so they didnt have to pay, then they would have takin both children, thats so stupid, I guess she thought that maybe they would pay child support for one , just not two,  she needs to just give up the lying, she's not very good at it, This girl is so hiding something.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 12:23:54 PM
Another thing Misty said, that Jr was freaking out, I don't hear the child on the 911 call in the background at all, when a three year old freaks out you would hear that, at least in my experience  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 12:26:06 PM
Maybe it's just me, but when you look and hear all what Misty is saying from this latest version of things, it sounds to me that she has been reading these type of forums, and is saying things that she has read.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 12:29:22 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Exclusive-Misty-Croslin-Cummings-polygraph-tapes/j7-bWzHuekSLPlWFcKCkhA.cspx




Here is the link from the article upthread and there is also a video here...........sorry for the delay, someone rang the doorbell right in the middle if me trying to post.
I heard I wouldn't tell.

Thanks~I thought I was crazier than normal. I appreciate yoiur listening to them. ::MonkeyAngel::

Actually,there was also a transcript of that,she says she had nothing to do with it, if she knew who "hurt" her,she would tell, I am alarmed by what she actually did say, to say the least. that alone was a mouthful. IF Ron and his family are standing by her after that comment alone, then they are idiots.   ::MonkeyMad::

"didn’t have nothing to do with her…I love that little girl more than anything…I’d never hurt her…If I knew who hurt her I’d tell"

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Misty-Croslin-Cummings-polygraph-tapes-released/j7-bWzHuekSLPlWFcKCkhA.cspx

I read the transcript as well as listened to the video over and over. What stcuck out to me was " I didn't have anything to do with her", and I THOUGHT she used loved instead of I love that little girl, but what I wasn't sure about was it sounded to me like she said "I wouldn't tell", and I asked several others to llisten and they agreed..........only other possibility is that her lack of enunciation is so poor she might have said wood-ah and it sounded like wouldn't. Have you listened to the tapes as we all know transcripts can be wrong (remember the NG transcript about who picked up Haleigh from the bus stop?




If the Cummings are still standing by her at this point I have to believe it's to cover their own @sses..........enough is enough ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 12:31:17 PM
She gives lots of detail about the morning of 2/9, but doesn't mention what Jr. was doing all that time. She says they drove to Waleka to get an outfit that Haleigh insisted on wearing, then she and Ron drive Haleigh to school and Misty walks Haleigh to her classroom. No mention of where Jr is.

Then Misty and Ron return home where they sleep till around 11 or 12, when Ron gets up to get ready for work. Where was Jr, when the two of them were sleeping? No way he was sleeping most of the day. Who was watching Jr, while these two slept?






Thats something I would like to know also, where was Jr..........and what really gets me about her statements is she says that maybe Crystals family took HaLeigh because she didnt wanna pay child support, well hells bells, what kinda stupid thing was that to say, if someone was gonna take her so they didnt have to pay, then they would have takin both children, thats so stupid, I guess she thought that maybe they would pay child support for one , just not two,  she needs to just give up the lying, she's not very good at it, This girl is so hiding something.....

Not to mention that raising the child is more expensive for the custodial parent than the non-cutodial, so her cost would have gone up.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 12:42:44 PM
Maybe it's just me, but when you look and hear all what Misty is saying from this latest version of things, it sounds to me that she has been reading these type of forums, and is saying things that she has read.  ::MonkeyEek::


I sooooo agree!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on August 28, 2009, 12:43:29 PM
http://twitter.com/radionewz


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 12:56:32 PM
http://twitter.com/radionewz
Thank-you, I thought that I lost my mind when I saw a tidbit from this twitter last night  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 28, 2009, 01:04:53 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Exclusive-Misty-Croslin-Cummings-polygraph-tapes/j7-bWzHuekSLPlWFcKCkhA.cspx




Here is the link from the article upthread and there is also a video here...........sorry for the delay, someone rang the doorbell right in the middle if me trying to post.
I heard I wouldn't tell.

Thanks~I thought I was crazier than normal. I appreciate yoiur listening to them. ::MonkeyAngel::

Actually,there was also a transcript of that,she says she had nothing to do with it, if she knew who "hurt" her,she would tell, I am alarmed by what she actually did say, to say the least. that alone was a mouthful. IF Ron and his family are standing by her after that comment alone, then they are idiots.   ::MonkeyMad::

"didn’t have nothing to do with her…I love that little girl more than anything…I’d never hurt her…If I knew who hurt her I’d tell"

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Misty-Croslin-Cummings-polygraph-tapes-released/j7-bWzHuekSLPlWFcKCkhA.cspx

I read the transcript as well as listened to the video over and over. What stcuck out to me was " I didn't have anything to do with her", and I THOUGHT she used loved instead of I love that little girl, but what I wasn't sure about was it sounded to me like she said "I wouldn't tell", and I asked several others to llisten and they agreed..........only other possibility is that her lack of enunciation is so poor she might have said wood-ah and it sounded like wouldn't. Have you listened to the tapes as we all know transcripts can be wrong (remember the NG transcript about who picked up Haleigh from the bus stop?




If the Cummings are still standing by her at this point I have to believe it's to cover their own @sses..........enough is enough ::MonkeyMad::

Of course I have. I am not hearing wouldn't , will have a few people here listen and see and I have asked others and they have not heard wouldn't either. I am alarmed at the hurt comments the most. She was asked who TOOK HaLeigh, not who hurt her, no one said hurt, so why the need for her to say SHE did not hurt her.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 01:06:52 PM
GGMS/Annette Sykes has snapped at a TV Reporter --- " It's a Scam". When you find Haleigh you'll find who took her and it wasn't Misty"          ( That's the statement I saw last night.)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 28, 2009, 01:30:52 PM
GGMS/Annette Sykes has snapped at a TV Reporter --- " It's a Scam". When you find Haleigh you'll find who took her and it wasn't Misty"          ( That's the statement I saw last night.)
Boy, I would like to see that, I wonder if she has sat down ans asked Misty why she cant remember what happened that night, why she keeps changing her story, why she keeps failing all her test, does she really think Misty is completely innocent and yet has all these inconsistency's ........this woman cant be this stupid or else she knows what happened to.......or Ronald has something on her too,     

And why is everyone taking up for a Misty anyway's, a girl they havent known very long at all, why arent they standing up for HaLeigh, their own Grand daughter none of this makes sense, something more is going on here and its starting to look like they all know where HaLeigh is.....hmmmmmmm


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 01:34:53 PM
GGMS/Annette Sykes has snapped at a TV Reporter --- " It's a Scam". When you find Haleigh you'll find who took her and it wasn't Misty"          ( That's the statement I saw last night.)
Boy, I would like to see that, I wonder if she has sat down ans asked Misty why she cant remember what happened that night, why she keeps changing her story, why she keeps failing all her test, does she really think Misty is completely innocent and yet has all these inconsistency's ........this woman cant be this stupid or else she knows what happened to.......or Ronald has something on her too,     

And why is everyone taking up for a Misty anyway's, a girl they havent known very long at all, why arent they standing up for HaLeigh, their own Grand daughter none of this makes sense, something more is going on here and its starting to look like they all know where HaLeigh is.....hmmmmmmm
And it isn't that Sykes is a push over, frankly I'm scared just looking at her  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::  Let's clothe and feed and give shelter to a girl that is obviously lying and was the last to see my great granddaughter, yeah that makes sense  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 02:03:35 PM
GGMS/Annette Sykes has snapped at a TV Reporter --- " It's a Scam". When you find Haleigh you'll find who took her and it wasn't Misty"          ( That's the statement I saw last night.)
Boy, I would like to see that, I wonder if she has sat down ans asked Misty why she cant remember what happened that night, why she keeps changing her story, why she keeps failing all her test, does she really think Misty is completely innocent and yet has all these inconsistency's ........this woman cant be this stupid or else she knows what happened to.......or Ronald has something on her too,     

And why is everyone taking up for a Misty anyway's, a girl they havent known very long at all, why arent they standing up for HaLeigh, their own Grand daughter none of this makes sense, something more is going on here and its starting to look like they all know where HaLeigh is.....hmmmmmmm





Yep-or what happened to her ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 28, 2009, 03:50:47 PM
GGMS/Annette Sykes has snapped at a TV Reporter --- " It's a Scam". When you find Haleigh you'll find who took her and it wasn't Misty"          ( That's the statement I saw last night.)
Boy, I would like to see that, I wonder if she has sat down ans asked Misty why she cant remember what happened that night, why she keeps changing her story, why she keeps failing all her test, does she really think Misty is completely innocent and yet has all these inconsistency's ........this woman cant be this stupid or else she knows what happened to.......or Ronald has something on her too,     

And why is everyone taking up for a Misty anyway's, a girl they havent known very long at all, why arent they standing up for HaLeigh, their own Grand daughter none of this makes sense, something more is going on here and its starting to look like they all know where HaLeigh is.....hmmmmmmm

I have an ex-DIL who is very Misty-like.  You can't beat info out of a person like that, you can't turn your back on them.  You have to buddy up to them & let them hang themselves.

Sometimes you have to bite a bullet instead of breaking the law by shooting one at someone ... for as long as it takes to get the information you need. 

And then .....               ::MonkeyGavel:: 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 28, 2009, 05:06:11 PM
I have been told that TJ Ward will be on Nancy Grace tonight to discuss the Haleigh Cummings case and the LVA he did of Misty.  


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 05:08:20 PM
I have been told that TJ Ward will be on Nancy Grace tonight to discuss the Haleigh Cummings case and the LVA he did of Misty.  
Thanks, that will be interesting.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 28, 2009, 05:31:21 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20578710/detail.html
Expert: Haleigh's Now-Stepmother Fought Hypnosis
Misty Croslin Cummings Was Last Person To See Missing Girl

POSTED: 6:57 am EDT August 27, 2009
UPDATED: 5:10 pm EDT August 28, 2009
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- The forensic hypnotist who examined now-stepmother of missing Haleigh Cummings said he believes was fighting the process.

WESH 2 spoke exclusively with former New York Police expert and retired Central Florida lawman John Gaspar, who conducted that exam.

He said though Misty Croslin Cummings, the 17-year-old who married Haleigh's father Ronald Cummings, told him she wanted him to find the truth, she fought the process.

"It seemed a little more rehearsed than I've ever seen in my experience as a forensic hypnotist," Gaspar said.

Gaspar spent just over an hour with Croslin Cummings, who asked to be hypnotized to clear her name.

He said he explained to her a subject must be willing and she told told him the truth about what happened Haleigh is all she's ever wanted, yet during the process Gaspar said she seemed to fight him.
"She moved around a number of times, uncrossed her legs, mved her arms, crossed her arms," he said. "Things of that nature and those are things that would distract somebody from a meditative or relaxed state."

During the examination, Croslin Cummings repeated the events that led to the disappearance of Haleigh in the middle of the night while Misty was caring for her. Investigators later told Gaspar there were a few facts that differed from previous versions.

Throughout it all, Gaspar felt Croslin Cummings likely knew more than she was saying.

"She claimed she was there for a voluntary interview and yet she exhibited a lot of signs verbally and nonverbally that it wasn't voluntary," he said.

Gaspar said it's almost as if she wanted to appear to cooperate, while consciously or subconsciously thwarting him.

Gaspar also said Croslin Cummings was being truthful when she spoke endearingly about Haleigh. Whatever happened, he believes she is truly sorry the child is gone.

On Thursday, investigators said Croslin Cummings failed a series of lie detector tests.
Croslin Cummings said she wanted to clear her name in Haleigh's disappearance, but experts who gave her a series of three tests said deceptive answers did even more damage.

"I didn't have nothing to do with her," she said. "I love that little girl more than anything. I would never hurt her. If I knew who hurt her, I'd tell."

Experts said she appeared to be lying about how Haleigh vanished on a voice analysis stress test and during the lie detector tests, she pointed fingers even at her own family.

"I keep hearing a lot about my brother," she said. "I have no idea if he'd done something to her. I don't know if he took her."

The analyst giving the test called her out on her inconsistent stories.

"I can see it," the analyst said. "There's things going on that you know that you're not telling anybody."
Tim Miller from Texas EquuSearch said Croslin Cummings reached out to him for help to find Haleigh and clear her name. So, he paid for the experts to conduct the tests, which Miller said she failed miserably, answering most honestly when asked if she knew who took Haleigh.

"There were two or more people involved," Miller said. "So when Haleigh was taken out of the house, she doesn't know who it was taking her to the final destination."

Croslin Cummings said she expects tough times ahead.

"I've lived in cars, had drug addicts as parents," she said. "My life has been bad my whole life, and it's just not going to get better it looks like."

When broken down into percentages, some of her answers indicated 99 percent deception, including the question, "Do you know what happened to Haleigh?"

Putnam County sheriff's investigators said she has been hiding something all along. They've subpoenaed the tapes.

Video   http://www.wesh.com/video/20592921/index.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 28, 2009, 05:36:39 PM
snip from Trimm's article above"

There were two or more people involved," Miller said. "So when Haleigh was taken out of the house, she doesn't know who it was taking her to the final destination."


ok, we'll start with that info....who are the 2 or more people? give us those names! we will go from there...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 05:38:23 PM
Thanks Trimm.   "She claimed she was there for a voluntary interview and yet she exhibited a lot of signs verbally and nonverbally that it wasn't voluntary," he said. (This is what I don't understand, if you voluntarily wanted to do this, why fight it?  ::MonkeyConfused::)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 05:39:35 PM
snip from Trimm's article above"

There were two or more people involved," Miller said. "So when Haleigh was taken out of the house, she doesn't know who it was taking her to the final destination."


ok, we'll start with that info....who are the 2 or more people? give us those names! we will go from there...
this is just unbelievable  ::MonkeyConfused:: Problem is she could have made that up also.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 05:54:12 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=144098&catid=3

Expert: Misty Has Doubt About Haleigh's Dad
 Jackelyn Barnard     Created: 8/28/2009 4:32:43 PM    Updated: 8/28/2009 5:28:04 PM
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PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- Six months after Haleigh Cummings disappeared, Misty Croslin-Cummings re-lives those last moments with a voice analysis expert and hypnosis expert.

Cummings spent more than 20 minutes under hypnosis. Most of the time was used to describe in detail those moments when Misty woke up and realized Haleigh was gone.

"We just looked and we searched and we couldn't find her," Cummings told the hypnosis expert.

The expert says Misty wasn't totally under and the test was inconclusive.

"I gave you the truth. I gave you everything that I got. If I knew more I would tell you," Misty told the expert.

More telling was the second test Misty did that same day, a layered voice analysis.

"I don't know why I woke up. I just woke up out of a deep sleep. I just woke up," said Misty. The expert, T.J. Ward, asked, "What did you notice?" Misty replied, "The kitchen light was on. All the lights were shut off when I went to bed. That kitchen light I knew was off when I went to sleep. The kitchen light was just glaring in my bedroom. So, I got up and went to the kitchen and that's when I noticed the back door was wide open."

For the next 20 minutes, Misty had a conversation with the expert, who was able to track her stress and movements.

"Do you know of any person that would bother Haleigh?" asked Ward. Misty replied, "I really didn't know a lot of people. I have suspicions, yeah."

Police have asked us not to release that part of the tape.

But it's what Misty did say during that section that raised a red flag for the voice expert. "You have knowledge of the person who has taken Haleigh. You need to think. You need to tell me the truth because I can see changes," Ward told Misty.

While fighting back tears, Misty said, "I've been trying to think. I've been thinking for six months. I don't know. I don't know if I seen something in my sleep. I don't know."

"There's something you are not telling me. Okay, I want you to tell me about it. I can see it. There's things about Haleigh you are not telling anybody," Ward told her.

"There's nothing I'm not telling nobody. I told everybody everything that I know. I don't know what you are trying to get out of me. I'm 17 years old. What do you think, come on how much can a 17 year old take?" Misty replied.

Misty was then asked about Ronald Cummings, Haleigh's dad and her new husband. It was that questioning which puzzled the expert.

"Ronald had nothing to do with his daughter. He loves his daughter more than anything in this world," Misty told Ward.

He then told her, "When I asked you that, it came up and said you are not sure. Why is there doubt in your mind?"

Misty replied, "I don't know. I don't know if there's doubt in my mind, really Ronald didn't have nothing to do with his daughter, I can tell you that."

Ward then asked Misty, "What do you think happened to Haleigh?"Misty replied, "I don't know what's happened to her. I mean I don't think she's dead, and I don't think she's dead at all. Everyone keeps saying she could be, I don't think Haleigh's dead."

Ward then pressed Misty a little more, asking her if someone has threatened her not to say what happened to Haleigh.

"No, nobody told me nothing to say about Haleigh or nothing. I've never been once told not to tell where Haleigh is. I wouldn't care if someone told me not to tell I would still tell. I don't care if they want to kill me. Go ahead and kill me, they can have my life for her back any day."



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 06:02:09 PM
 ::MonkeyTongue:: I was busy at work today so this may have already been addressed, but has anyone heard anything from the Cummings family today......TN, RC, GGMS anyone????? I'm just shocked that no one has made any type of a statement yet after the latest bombshells. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 06:06:23 PM
::MonkeyTongue:: I was busy at work today so this may have already been addressed, but has anyone heard anything from the Cummings family today......TN, RC, GGMS anyone????? I'm just shocked that no one has made any type of a statement yet after the latest bombshells. ::MonkeyConfused::
Not a peep  ::MonkeyRoll:: 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 06:20:27 PM
::MonkeyTongue:: I was busy at work today so this may have already been addressed, but has anyone heard anything from the Cummings family today......TN, RC, GGMS anyone????? I'm just shocked that no one has made any type of a statement yet after the latest bombshells. ::MonkeyConfused::
Not a peep  ::MonkeyRoll:: 


 ::MonkeyEek:: Wow, the silence is deafening ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 06:28:37 PM
::MonkeyTongue:: I was busy at work today so this may have already been addressed, but has anyone heard anything from the Cummings family today......TN, RC, GGMS anyone????? I'm just shocked that no one has made any type of a statement yet after the latest bombshells. ::MonkeyConfused::
Not a peep  ::MonkeyRoll:: 


 ::MonkeyEek:: Wow, the silence is deafening ::MonkeyBike::
Some curious things in that article you posted  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 06:59:05 PM
::MonkeyTongue:: I was busy at work today so this may have already been addressed, but has anyone heard anything from the Cummings family today......TN, RC, GGMS anyone????? I'm just shocked that no one has made any type of a statement yet after the latest bombshells. ::MonkeyConfused::
Not a peep  ::MonkeyRoll:: 


 ::MonkeyEek:: Wow, the silence is deafening ::MonkeyBike::
Some curious things in that article you posted  ::MonkeyEek::

Yes there are ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 28, 2009, 07:07:55 PM
Seems like the more information that comes out the more disturbing that it gets.....Seriously who can honestly say that they would drive to the next town over before school starts because a 5 year old has a special outfit that she wants to wear that day....she is 5 for crying out loud you would dress her in whatever for that day and tell her that she could wear the other outfit another day especially if you had been fighting/working all weekend and was up til at least 4 in the morning the night before...Also why lie to Jerry Santos about it....which was it ? Did she spill something on her shirt ? Were you upset that she was missing? Did you over sleep ? or Did she have a special outfit that she wanted to wear? And yes where was junior? My question is where /why was he going in such a hurry that Monday morning and the bystanders say that they think that they saw Haleigh in the car ...no mention of Misty or haleigh even though she says that they went....wonder if the school teacher can back up her story about going in the school with her?

Also why was the outfit at gmas ? At one time did they plan on Haleigh being there on Monday morning to go to school from there ? did they think that they would not find Misty by Monday morning? and WBG and Nay Nay say that she was back at her brothers about 4 in the morning Sunday night so what made them decide to take Haleigh home Sunday night  before they even found Misty? after all her bedtime is 8 O'clock because she has school the next day....hummmm


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 28, 2009, 07:10:20 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/20602047/detail.html
Haleigh's Stepmom Takes Polygraph, Hypnosis Tests

Posted: 1:30 pm EDT August 28, 2009Updated: 6:28 pm EDT August 28, 2009
PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- Is the last person who saw a missing Putnam County girl alive lying? Eyewitness News obtained the video taken while Misty Croslin-Cummings took a lie detector test (watch video | see images) to prove she didn't have anything to do with the disappearance of 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings.

The man who gave her the test says Misty failed it miserably.

"There's nothing I'm not telling you. I've told you everything that I know," she said during the polygraph test.
<snipped>


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 07:12:33 PM
Seems like the more information that comes out the more disturbing that it gets.....Seriously who can honestly say that they would drive to the next town over before school starts because a 5 year old has a special outfit that she wants to wear that day....she is 5 for crying out loud you would dress her in whatever for that day and tell her that she could wear the other outfit another day especially if you had been fighting/working all weekend and was up til at least 4 in the morning the night before...Also why lie to Jerry Santos about it....which was it ? Did she spill something on her shirt ? Were you upset that she was missing? Did you over sleep ? or Did she have a special outfit that she wanted to wear? And yes where was junior? My question is where /why was he going in such a hurry that Monday morning and the bystanders say that they think that they saw Haleigh in the car ...no mention of Misty or haleigh even though she says that they went....wonder if the school teacher can back up her story about going in the school with her?

Also why was the outfit at gmas ? At one time did they plan on Haleigh being there on Monday morning to go to school from there ? did they think that they would not find Misty by Monday morning? and WBG and Nay Nay say that she was back at her brothers about 4 in the morning Sunday night so what made them decide to take Haleigh home Sunday night  before they even found Misty? after all her bedtime is 8 O'clock because she has school the next day....hummmm

All lies, the truth doesn't change............but that one was a real LMAO moment, I'd never drive that far for my child to get a particular outfit, more and more absurdities come forth every time they open their mouths ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 07:22:03 PM
Seems like the more information that comes out the more disturbing that it gets.....Seriously who can honestly say that they would drive to the next town over before school starts because a 5 year old has a special outfit that she wants to wear that day....she is 5 for crying out loud you would dress her in whatever for that day and tell her that she could wear the other outfit another day especially if you had been fighting/working all weekend and was up til at least 4 in the morning the night before...Also why lie to Jerry Santos about it....which was it ? Did she spill something on her shirt ? Were you upset that she was missing? Did you over sleep ? or Did she have a special outfit that she wanted to wear? And yes where was junior? My question is where /why was he going in such a hurry that Monday morning and the bystanders say that they think that they saw Haleigh in the car ...no mention of Misty or haleigh even though she says that they went....wonder if the school teacher can back up her story about going in the school with her?

Also why was the outfit at gmas ? At one time did they plan on Haleigh being there on Monday morning to go to school from there ? did they think that they would not find Misty by Monday morning? and WBG and Nay Nay say that she was back at her brothers about 4 in the morning Sunday night so what made them decide to take Haleigh home Sunday night  before they even found Misty? after all her bedtime is 8 O'clock because she has school the next day....hummmm
  ::MonkeyRoll:: They don't strike me as the type that would drive a distance to get clothes that Haleigh wanted to wear. I wondered also if the teacher backed up that story of Misty bringing Haleigh into the school. The more Misty talks, the worse this is getting.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 07:31:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Emeralgem 
What blood in what van? Please direct me to a link? TYIA Whisperer...

I heard Misty today discuss the deer blood in the van, she declared that she had seen the deer, herself. Not trying to be smart but I do know it is in one of the tests. Either the voice stress analysis, or the polygraph or the fake hypnosis, sorry, I've heard and read so much today that as one poster said earlier, my ears are bleeding. It was in a video linked in either the rumor thread or the Misty thread. Wish I could pin it down for you.
 
(How in the heck did I miss this one, did anyone else read or hear about the deer  ::MonkeyRoll::)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 07:33:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Emeralgem 
What blood in what van? Please direct me to a link? TYIA Whisperer...

I heard Misty today discuss the deer blood in the van, she declared that she had seen the deer, herself. Not trying to be smart but I do know it is in one of the tests. Either the voice stress analysis, or the polygraph or the fake hypnosis, sorry, I've heard and read so much today that as one poster said earlier, my ears are bleeding. It was in a video linked in either the rumor thread or the Misty thread. Wish I could pin it down for you.
 
(How in the heck did I miss this one, did anyone else read or hear about the deer  ::MonkeyRoll::)


 ::MonkeyShocked::

I missed it too ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 07:35:23 PM
lonetraveler 
Registered User   Join Date: Jul 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Emeralgem 
What blood in what van? Please direct me to a link? TYIA Whisperer...

I heard Misty today discuss the deer blood in the van, she declared that she had seen the deer, herself. Not trying to be smart but I do know it is in one of the tests. Either the voice stress analysis, or the polygraph or the fake hypnosis, sorry, I've heard and read so much today that as one poster said earlier, my ears are bleeding. It was in a video linked in either the rumor thread or the Misty thread. Wish I could pin it down for you.
 
(How in the heck did I miss this one, did anyone else read or hear about the deer  ::MonkeyRoll::)


 ::MonkeyShocked::

I missed it too ::MonkeyEek::
I keep looking back to see if a link is posted  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: seahorse on August 28, 2009, 07:39:18 PM
Seems like the more information that comes out the more disturbing that it gets.....Seriously who can honestly say that they would drive to the next town over before school starts because a 5 year old has a special outfit that she wants to wear that day....she is 5 for crying out loud you would dress her in whatever for that day and tell her that she could wear the other outfit another day especially if you had been fighting/working all weekend and was up til at least 4 in the morning the night before...Also why lie to Jerry Santos about it....which was it ? Did she spill something on her shirt ? Were you upset that she was missing? Did you over sleep ? or Did she have a special outfit that she wanted to wear? And yes where was junior? My question is where /why was he going in such a hurry that Monday morning and the bystanders say that they think that they saw Haleigh in the car ...no mention of Misty or haleigh even though she says that they went....wonder if the school teacher can back up her story about going in the school with her?

Also why was the outfit at gmas ? At one time did they plan on Haleigh being there on Monday morning to go to school from there ? did they think that they would not find Misty by Monday morning? and WBG and Nay Nay say that she was back at her brothers about 4 in the morning Sunday night so what made them decide to take Haleigh home Sunday night  before they even found Misty? after all her bedtime is 8 O'clock because she has school the next day....hummmm

  This is a wild and crazy guess...  Haleigh did not have one clean outfit  to wear to school. This is why they rode that distance, the kid's clothes were are in the wash, actually, on the floor as gma theresa said, clothes on floor everyday! I believe gma theresa made that remark on NG. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 28, 2009, 07:40:06 PM
WTH?? I guess that I missed it too......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 28, 2009, 07:44:06 PM
Seems like the more information that comes out the more disturbing that it gets.....Seriously who can honestly say that they would drive to the next town over before school starts because a 5 year old has a special outfit that she wants to wear that day....she is 5 for crying out loud you would dress her in whatever for that day and tell her that she could wear the other outfit another day especially if you had been fighting/working all weekend and was up til at least 4 in the morning the night before...Also why lie to Jerry Santos about it....which was it ? Did she spill something on her shirt ? Were you upset that she was missing? Did you over sleep ? or Did she have a special outfit that she wanted to wear? And yes where was junior? My question is where /why was he going in such a hurry that Monday morning and the bystanders say that they think that they saw Haleigh in the car ...no mention of Misty or haleigh even though she says that they went....wonder if the school teacher can back up her story about going in the school with her?

Also why was the outfit at gmas ? At one time did they plan on Haleigh being there on Monday morning to go to school from there ? did they think that they would not find Misty by Monday morning? and WBG and Nay Nay say that she was back at her brothers about 4 in the morning Sunday night so what made them decide to take Haleigh home Sunday night  before they even found Misty? after all her bedtime is 8 O'clock because she has school the next day....hummmm

  This is a wild and crazy guess...  Haleigh did not have one clean outfit  to wear to school. This is why they rode that distance, the kid's clothes were are in the wash, actually, on the floor as gma theresa said, clothes on floor everyday! I believe gma theresa made that remark on NG. 

Well that would make more sense than the story that she just had a special outfit of her choosing to wear but still you would think that would have been the story from the begginning??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 07:55:51 PM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/082709_Polygraph_results_questioned_in_Haleigh_case                          About 10:50 in the video  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 07:56:38 PM
O/T kinda..........they arrested the foster parent of Hassani, but I don't see anything that they have on them yet except the text message ::MonkeyTongue::

Foster Parents of Missing Calif. 5-Year-Old Arrested
Friday, August 28, 2009 


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Missing 5-year-old Hasanni Campbell.
The foster parents of missing 5-year-old Hasanni Campbell were arrested Friday afternoon in connection with his disappearance, according to Oakland police spokesman Jeff Thomason.

Foster parents Louis Ross and Jennifer Campbell had been the focus of much speculation throughout the investigation into the disappearance of the boy on Aug. 10, KTVU reported.

Police had been mystified as to how Hasanni Campbell could have vanished from a "crowded business district with no witnesses," according to a police search warrant affidavit.

The document supported a warrant to search the home of the boy's foster father, Louis Ross, in Fremont, California.

Oakland police and Crime Stoppers had announced a $10,000 reward in the search for the missing boy, who vanished from the parking lot of the Shuz of Rockridge shoe store in Oakland, California.

Police bloodhounds were unable to detect the scent of the boy outside the upscale shoe store where Hasanni's aunt and foster mother work. His foster father Ross was the last person to see Hasanni alive, a police search warrant affidavit revealed.

Ross said the boy disappeared after he briefly left him outside a car in the rear parking lot of the store. Ross said he went to the store's front entrance to ask Campbell to open the back door, but when he returned to the parking lot, Hasanni was gone.

Hasanni has cerebral palsy and wears braces on his legs.

According to the affidavit, 10 days before the boy vanished, Ross sent an expletive-filled text message to Hasanni's foster mother, threatening to leave the boy alone on a train station platform, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

Ross said he would look after Hasanni's 1-year-old sister, but not the boy.

"I will watch her but he will be out on the (station) and its your responsibility," said the July 31 text message quoted by police.

In a phone interview Thursday with the San Francisco Chronicle, Ross said he sent the text message in frustration at a time when he planned to break up with Campbell.

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"It was me venting about a situation in our past that had come back up," he told the newspaper. "I was ending the relationship at that point."

Besides scouring the area around the shoe store, police have searched Ross' home, the surrounding neighborhoods and parks as well as a scrap yard in nearby Hayward, Calif., that Ross had visited hours before Hasanni's disappearance.

Nothing was taken from Ross' home, and he voluntarily offered his cell phone to police, court records show.

Also Thursday, Ross told television station KPIX that he failed a lie detector test but has cooperated with police "100 percent."

Oakland police would not comment on the court documents or the lie detector test.

Police spokesman Jeff Thomason says Hasanni's disappearance is still a missing person investigation, but says a homicide investigator is in charge of the case.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 28, 2009, 08:03:45 PM
http://twitter.com/radionewz
Thank-you, I thought that I lost my mind when I saw a tidbit from this twitter last night  ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks you Grama.. Trying to catch up. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 08:08:51 PM
http://twitter.com/radionewz
Thank-you, I thought that I lost my mind when I saw a tidbit from this twitter last night  ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks you Grama.. Trying to catch up. ::MonkeyTongue::


Sorry ~ trying to catch up, but which specific tweet are y'all looking at??????/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 08:10:52 PM
 ::MonkeyJnBox::

Watching Nancy Grace and Mark NeJame just stated TN called him if I heard that correctly.........I thought TN stated Ron faxed a letter?????? Did I hear that right? ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 08:12:23 PM
http://twitter.com/radionewz
Thank-you, I thought that I lost my mind when I saw a tidbit from this twitter last night  ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks you Grama.. Trying to catch up. ::MonkeyTongue::


Sorry ~ trying to catch up, but which specific tweet are y'all looking at??????/
The one about Sykes saying something about a scam.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 08:14:55 PM
http://twitter.com/radionewz
Thank-you, I thought that I lost my mind when I saw a tidbit from this twitter last night  ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks you Grama.. Trying to catch up. ::MonkeyTongue::


Sorry ~ trying to catch up, but which specific tweet are y'all looking at??????/
The one about Sykes saying something about a scam.

OK~I did see that but wondered about it because I haven't seen it on any news stories yet.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 08:17:43 PM
I don't know  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 08:19:48 PM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/082709_Polygraph_results_questioned_in_Haleigh_case                          About 10:50 in the video  ::MonkeyEek::

OK, I don't have the patience to listen again because my video player keeps screwing up, so what does she say at this point NRCG??? TIA


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: pink angel on August 28, 2009, 08:23:43 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/breaking/news-article.aspx?storyid=144116&catid=17

Tommy Croslin and his wife were just hauled off for questioning.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 08:24:45 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/breaking/news-article.aspx?storyid=144116&catid=17

Tommy Croslin and his wife were just hauled off for questioning.
  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 28, 2009, 08:26:16 PM
http://twitter.com/radionewz
Thank-you, I thought that I lost my mind when I saw a tidbit from this twitter last night  ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks you Grama.. Trying to catch up. ::MonkeyTongue::


Sorry ~ trying to catch up, but which specific tweet are y'all looking at??????/
::MonkeyBike::
I am looking at the link Grama supplied and all the rest....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 08:26:22 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/breaking/news-article.aspx?storyid=144116&catid=17

Tommy Croslin and his wife were just hauled off for questioning.
  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 08:27:31 PM
Misty is saying that there was deer blood, she thinks it is deer blood in the van, because her brother had shot a deer, and she saw the deer. I come from deer hunting country, usually the deer is tied down on the roof of the car, I have never heard of a deer being brought home in a van/car, but maybe they do that in Florida.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 08:29:57 PM
Misty is saying that there was deer blood, she thinks it is deer blood in the van, because her brother had shot a deer, and she saw the deer. I come from deer hunting country, usually the deer is tied down on the roof of the car, I have never heard of a deer being brought home in a van/car, but maybe they do that in Florida.  ::MonkeyEek::



 ::MonkeyNoNo:: I would think if PCSO found ANY type of blood in that van they would have kept it for evidence, but who know at this point ::MonkeyConfused::

Thanks again!!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 08:32:49 PM
http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/does-a-rose-hold-the-clue-to-where-haleigh-is/




By Steph
Or is Misty Cummings sending investigators on a wild goose chase? This week, during one of several long conversations, with Misty Cummings, she revealed something that may, or may be of interest. When asked “is there anything else you can remember, in particular, is there anywhere police should be looking”, she paused and said “there’s a place that needs to be searched again.” She then gave us specific directions and said “look in the forest for a single red rose”. Ronald drove us to the location she described and when we entered into the woods as directed we found a red plastic rose, covered lightly with brush. It was an eerie moment and we quickly retreated with the intention of going directly to law enforcement, which we did. We returned later with law enforcement and without Ronald Cummings. Investigators bagged the rose and decided the area was worth being searched. The intense, detailed search with law enforcement and Texas equusearch is scheduled for tomorrow morning. I have been asked not to disclose the location, because IF this tip is actually credible, no one will attempt to tamper with the evidence.
Here’s what I find interesting about this. If you are completely innocent and allegedly have NO knowledge of a crime or NO knowledge of anyone who may have committed this crime. Why would even elude that you may know where the body is buried? Why would you lead people to an area where you think a little girl may be buried? A little girl who you were the last person known to see her? Perhaps to distract law enforcement/searchers away from an area where the body actually is? If this turns up to be nothing, is Misty taking tips from the Casey Anthony handbook; “How To Lead Investigators On A Wild Goose Chase”? Perhaps Misty’s tip of what may be buried there is just as telling as what isn’t. We will know more tomorrow.
 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 08:33:11 PM
Misty is saying that there was deer blood, she thinks it is deer blood in the van, because her brother had shot a deer, and she saw the deer. I come from deer hunting country, usually the deer is tied down on the roof of the car, I have never heard of a deer being brought home in a van/car, but maybe they do that in Florida.  ::MonkeyEek::



 ::MonkeyNoNo:: I would think if PCSO found ANY type of blood in that van they would have kept it for evidence, but who know at this point ::MonkeyConfused::

Thanks again!!!!!!
They kept the van for awhile, and I would hope if it would have been human blood, we would have heard something  ::MonkeyShocked:: But hey, maybe not  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 08:35:14 PM
http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/does-a-rose-hold-the-clue-to-where-haleigh-is/




By Steph
Or is Misty Cummings sending investigators on a wild goose chase? This week, during one of several long conversations, with Misty Cummings, she revealed something that may, or may be of interest. When asked “is there anything else you can remember, in particular, is there anywhere police should be looking”, she paused and said “there’s a place that needs to be searched again.” She then gave us specific directions and said “look in the forest for a single red rose”. Ronald drove us to the location she described and when we entered into the woods as directed we found a red plastic rose, covered lightly with brush. It was an eerie moment and we quickly retreated with the intention of going directly to law enforcement, which we did. We returned later with law enforcement and without Ronald Cummings. Investigators bagged the rose and decided the area was worth being searched. The intense, detailed search with law enforcement and Texas equusearch is scheduled for tomorrow morning. I have been asked not to disclose the location, because IF this tip is actually credible, no one will attempt to tamper with the evidence.
Here’s what I find interesting about this. If you are completely innocent and allegedly have NO knowledge of a crime or NO knowledge of anyone who may have committed this crime. Why would even elude that you may know where the body is buried? Why would you lead people to an area where you think a little girl may be buried? A little girl who you were the last person known to see her? Perhaps to distract law enforcement/searchers away from an area where the body actually is? If this turns up to be nothing, is Misty taking tips from the Casey Anthony handbook; “How To Lead Investigators On A Wild Goose Chase”? Perhaps Misty’s tip of what may be buried there is just as telling as what isn’t. We will know more tomorrow.
 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
Okay, WTF is going on here   ::MonkeyEek::  I mean really what is going on here  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 28, 2009, 08:39:45 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/breaking/news-article.aspx?storyid=144116&catid=17

Tommy Croslin and his wife were just hauled off for questioning.

Quote....or if it was someone else like I keep hearing a lot of stuff about my brother.
Well I guess she got him hauled in for questoning......I wonder if they are going to give Chelsea a poly too ....that should be interesting because we know that she lies...in the Cobra intereview she stated that none of them do drugs....Misty,Ron, or themselves...well we know that Misty admitted to it and Ron has previous charges and Hank said that Ron had given him and his son pills and that they had taken them and that they made him really sick.....You would think that if they could not tell the truth then they would at least just shut up!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 08:40:08 PM
http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/does-a-rose-hold-the-clue-to-where-haleigh-is/




By Steph
Or is Misty Cummings sending investigators on a wild goose chase? This week, during one of several long conversations, with Misty Cummings, she revealed something that may, or may be of interest. When asked “is there anything else you can remember, in particular, is there anywhere police should be looking”, she paused and said “there’s a place that needs to be searched again.” She then gave us specific directions and said “look in the forest for a single red rose”. Ronald drove us to the location she described and when we entered into the woods as directed we found a red plastic rose, covered lightly with brush. It was an eerie moment and we quickly retreated with the intention of going directly to law enforcement, which we did. We returned later with law enforcement and without Ronald Cummings. Investigators bagged the rose and decided the area was worth being searched. The intense, detailed search with law enforcement and Texas equusearch is scheduled for tomorrow morning. I have been asked not to disclose the location, because IF this tip is actually credible, no one will attempt to tamper with the evidence.
Here’s what I find interesting about this. If you are completely innocent and allegedly have NO knowledge of a crime or NO knowledge of anyone who may have committed this crime. Why would even elude that you may know where the body is buried? Why would you lead people to an area where you think a little girl may be buried? A little girl who you were the last person known to see her? Perhaps to distract law enforcement/searchers away from an area where the body actually is? If this turns up to be nothing, is Misty taking tips from the Casey Anthony handbook; “How To Lead Investigators On A Wild Goose Chase”? Perhaps Misty’s tip of what may be buried there is just as telling as what isn’t. We will know more tomorrow.
 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
Okay, WTF is going on here   ::MonkeyEek::  I mean really what is going on here  ::MonkeyConfused::

No clue yet, maybe the "weakest link" is breaking ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 28, 2009, 08:40:34 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/breaking/news-article.aspx?storyid=144116&catid=17

Tommy Croslin and his wife were just hauled off for questioning.
  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked::

 ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 28, 2009, 08:42:56 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/breaking/news-article.aspx?storyid=144116&catid=17

Tommy Croslin and his wife were just hauled off for questioning.

Misty's Brother and His Wife Led Away for Questioning
 Taren Reed  Suzanne Chappell     6 mins ago

PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- The Putnam County Sheriff's Office is interviewing Misty Cummings' brother and his wife in connection with the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings, who disappeared a little more than 6 months ago from her home in Satsuma.

Hank Croslin tells First Coast News that detectives took his son, Tommy Croslin, to the sheriff's office at about 7 p.m. Friday. Hank Croslin is also Misty's father, but says allegations against his son that he was involved in Haleigh's disappearance are untrue.

Hank Croslin says his son told investigators that he would take a lie detector test to prove his innocence as he was led away.

First Coast News' Erich Spivey spoke with Tommy Croslin for about 45 minutes, and he said he does not know why Misty is saying this about him. Tommy's wife is being questioned now.

Stay with First Coast News and FirstCoastNews.com for the latest information.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 28, 2009, 08:45:31 PM
http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/does-a-rose-hold-the-clue-to-where-haleigh-is/




By Steph
Or is Misty Cummings sending investigators on a wild goose chase? This week, during one of several long conversations, with Misty Cummings, she revealed something that may, or may be of interest. When asked “is there anything else you can remember, in particular, is there anywhere police should be looking”, she paused and said “there’s a place that needs to be searched again.” She then gave us specific directions and said “look in the forest for a single red rose”. Ronald drove us to the location she described and when we entered into the woods as directed we found a red plastic rose, covered lightly with brush. It was an eerie moment and we quickly retreated with the intention of going directly to law enforcement, which we did. We returned later with law enforcement and without Ronald Cummings. Investigators bagged the rose and decided the area was worth being searched. The intense, detailed search with law enforcement and Texas equusearch is scheduled for tomorrow morning. I have been asked not to disclose the location, because IF this tip is actually credible, no one will attempt to tamper with the evidence.
Here’s what I find interesting about this. If you are completely innocent and allegedly have NO knowledge of a crime or NO knowledge of anyone who may have committed this crime. Why would even elude that you may know where the body is buried? Why would you lead people to an area where you think a little girl may be buried? A little girl who you were the last person known to see her? Perhaps to distract law enforcement/searchers away from an area where the body actually is? If this turns up to be nothing, is Misty taking tips from the Casey Anthony handbook; “How To Lead Investigators On A Wild Goose Chase”? Perhaps Misty’s tip of what may be buried there is just as telling as what isn’t. We will know more tomorrow.
 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
Okay now that is just creepy....Did they put the red rose there? How else would she know about it and Ron took them there?......This is like something from a stephen king novel..... ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 28, 2009, 08:45:37 PM
http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/does-a-rose-hold-the-clue-to-where-haleigh-is/




By Steph
Or is Misty Cummings sending investigators on a wild goose chase? This week, during one of several long conversations, with Misty Cummings, she revealed something that may, or may be of interest. When asked “is there anything else you can remember, in particular, is there anywhere police should be looking”, she paused and said “there’s a place that needs to be searched again.” She then gave us specific directions and said “look in the forest for a single red rose”. Ronald drove us to the location she described and when we entered into the woods as directed we found a red plastic rose, covered lightly with brush. It was an eerie moment and we quickly retreated with the intention of going directly to law enforcement, which we did. We returned later with law enforcement and without Ronald Cummings. Investigators bagged the rose and decided the area was worth being searched. The intense, detailed search with law enforcement and Texas equusearch is scheduled for tomorrow morning. I have been asked not to disclose the location, because IF this tip is actually credible, no one will attempt to tamper with the evidence.
Here’s what I find interesting about this. If you are completely innocent and allegedly have NO knowledge of a crime or NO knowledge of anyone who may have committed this crime. Why would even elude that you may know where the body is buried? Why would you lead people to an area where you think a little girl may be buried? A little girl who you were the last person known to see her? Perhaps to distract law enforcement/searchers away from an area where the body actually is? If this turns up to be nothing, is Misty taking tips from the Casey Anthony handbook; “How To Lead Investigators On A Wild Goose Chase”? Perhaps Misty’s tip of what may be buried there is just as telling as what isn’t. We will know more tomorrow.
 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

I really wish Steph would date his work


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 08:45:57 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/breaking/news-article.aspx?storyid=144116&catid=17

Tommy Croslin and his wife were just hauled off for questioning.

Misty's Brother and His Wife Led Away for Questioning
 Taren Reed  Suzanne Chappell     6 mins ago

PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- The Putnam County Sheriff's Office is interviewing Misty Cummings' brother and his wife in connection with the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings, who disappeared a little more than 6 months ago from her home in Satsuma.

Hank Croslin tells First Coast News that detectives took his son, Tommy Croslin, to the sheriff's office at about 7 p.m. Friday. Hank Croslin is also Misty's father, but says allegations against his son that he was involved in Haleigh's disappearance are untrue.

Hank Croslin says his son told investigators that he would take a lie detector test to prove his innocence as he was led away.

First Coast News' Erich Spivey spoke with Tommy Croslin for about 45 minutes, and he said he does not know why Misty is saying this about him. Tommy's wife is being questioned now.

Stay with First Coast News and FirstCoastNews.com for the latest information.



I wonder if it has anything to do with Misty mentioning deer blood, but the TES searcg tomorrow certainly makes me sit up and take notcie.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 08:47:10 PM
http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/does-a-rose-hold-the-clue-to-where-haleigh-is/




By Steph
Or is Misty Cummings sending investigators on a wild goose chase? This week, during one of several long conversations, with Misty Cummings, she revealed something that may, or may be of interest. When asked “is there anything else you can remember, in particular, is there anywhere police should be looking”, she paused and said “there’s a place that needs to be searched again.” She then gave us specific directions and said “look in the forest for a single red rose”. Ronald drove us to the location she described and when we entered into the woods as directed we found a red plastic rose, covered lightly with brush. It was an eerie moment and we quickly retreated with the intention of going directly to law enforcement, which we did. We returned later with law enforcement and without Ronald Cummings. Investigators bagged the rose and decided the area was worth being searched. The intense, detailed search with law enforcement and Texas equusearch is scheduled for tomorrow morning. I have been asked not to disclose the location, because IF this tip is actually credible, no one will attempt to tamper with the evidence.
Here’s what I find interesting about this. If you are completely innocent and allegedly have NO knowledge of a crime or NO knowledge of anyone who may have committed this crime. Why would even elude that you may know where the body is buried? Why would you lead people to an area where you think a little girl may be buried? A little girl who you were the last person known to see her? Perhaps to distract law enforcement/searchers away from an area where the body actually is? If this turns up to be nothing, is Misty taking tips from the Casey Anthony handbook; “How To Lead Investigators On A Wild Goose Chase”? Perhaps Misty’s tip of what may be buried there is just as telling as what isn’t. We will know more tomorrow.
 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

I really wish Steph would date his work

Me too. I wonder why Greta doesn't cover ANY of this since he was/is a producer on her show.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 28, 2009, 08:49:04 PM
IM - I have no idea, I haven't watched Greta in a long time.  She's likely busy with the political news.  Gretawire has a forum now as well.  I imagine the blog comments were getting to be too much. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 08:50:21 PM
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090828/ARTICLES/908289905/1003/NEWS04?Title=New-search-for-Haleigh-may-come-Saturday             With a pic of the rose.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 08:50:44 PM
IM - I have no idea, I haven't watched Greta in a long time.  She's likely busy with the political news.  Gretawire has a forum now as well.  I imagine the blog comments were getting to be too much. 

ALL political now................sad because when they were covering the Drew P case they always had good info. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Also, her blog seems to have ZERO control over comments when I used to read there.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 08:53:43 PM
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090828/ARTICLES/908289905/1003/NEWS04?Title=New-search-for-Haleigh-may-come-Saturday             With a pic of the rose.

Thanks NRCG......



New search for Haleigh may come Saturday
Haleigh's stepmom allegedly pointed out a patch of ground marked by a single plastic rose
Courtesy of Steph Watts Buy photo
This screen capture shows Misty Croslin-Cummings during a video taped hypnosis session. The session was arranged by the private search firm EquuSearch.

By Karen Voyles
Staff writer


Published: Friday, August 28, 2009 at 7:42 p.m.
Last Modified: Friday, August 28, 2009 at 7:42 p.m.
A comment Misty Croslin-Cummings allegedly made about investigators needing to double-check a patch of ground marked by a single plastic rose in their search for her missing stepdaughter, Haleigh Cummings, has motivated a private firm to begin scouring the area this morning.


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Misty Croslin-Cummings allegedly directed a private search crew to look for this rose in a Putnam County area she thought had not been adequately searched for missing 6 year old Haleigh Cummings. Courtesy Steph Watts
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Special to the Sun
Croslin-Cummings, 17, is said to have made the unrecorded comment while undergoing a lie-detector test, hypnosis session and voice stress test earlier this month. The head of the organization that paid for the tests said the stepmother of Haleigh -- the 6-year-old Putnam County girl missing since February -- was trying to clear her name when she agreed to the tests, yet failed each of them.

"She said there was a place that was not searched very well and that we should look for a red rose, and she gave us the location," said Steph Watts, who recorded the sessions for EquuSearch, a private Texas firm that founder and director Tim Miller said was contacted by Croslin-Cummings to help clear her name.

"We went and we looked, and we found it, and the next day we took them (Putnam County investigators) back there," Watts said. "I don't think they are going to dig where the rose is and find the body, but the fact that they went with us shows that they are following up on every lead."

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office has said it has followed about 4,000 leads so far in its search for Haleigh, whom Croslin-Cummings reported missing at 3:27 a.m. on Feb. 10.

Croslin-Cummings initially said she had put Haleigh and her younger brother to bed at about 8 p.m. on Feb. 9 in the same room where she went to sleep about two hours later. She was caring for the children because their father, Ronald Cummings, was working the night shift.

When Haleigh was reported missing, the Putnam County Sheriff's Office launched an Amber Alert and led a massive search that included boats, canine teams, four-wheelers, helicopters and horses.

In the months since Haleigh was last seen, investigators have said Cummings and Haleigh's mother, Crystal Sheffield, are not considered suspects.

On Friday afternoon, Putnam Sheriff's Maj. Gary Bowling weighed his words carefully in describing his agency's view of Croslin-Cummings' situation.

"No, I don't think we consider her a suspect," Bowling said. "We factually know that she is consistently inconsistent and we need some factual exactness about her activities the night before Haleigh disappeared until the morning when she was reported missing."

Croslin-Cummings did not respond to interview requests made Friday through her attorney, a friend and a family member. Without the knowledge or approval of her attorney or the Sheriff's Office, she reportedly asked Miller, the director of EquuSearch, to help her clear her name.

The firm was established nearly 10 years ago to assist in searches, especially after local law enforcement agencies are unable to sustain a search. Miller said Haleigh's family reached out to his firm "because they didn't think enough was being done to find her."

Croslin-Cummings then asked for something specific -- assistance clearing her name so that the search could focus on Haleigh, not on rumors about her, Miller said.

"She said she did not trust the cops and asked me if she could take a lie detector test or something," Miller said. "I told her that was out of the realm of what we did, but this was something that she felt would be helpful, and so we arranged it. This is the first time I have ever been put in a position like this. It has ended with Misty (Croslin-Cummings) not speaking to us. "

Miller said the polygraph that Croslin-Cummings underwent in Orlando on Aug. 19 "showed huge deceptions." When Croslin-Cummmings was told about the results, "she said she wanted to be hypnotized," Miller said. "My thought was 'Now where do we go?' My hopes were that she would have passed, but the opposite happened, so we arranged for the hypnosis and a voice analysis to be done at her husband's aunt's house in Welaka."

Apparently, Croslin-Cummings leaked the news about the pending hypnosis and analysis to some of her relatives, and the word spread quickly. Miller said there were lots of people in the yard of the aunt's home during the tests and that within a day or two, a variety of reporters began requesting interviews.

The sessions were taped and have since been distributed to media outlets around the state, including The Sun. The sessions reportedly were paid for by EquuSearch and recorded by Steph Watts, who distributed copies to reporters with the approval of EquuSearch.

Among those asking for a copy of the tapes and other materials was the Sheriff's Office, which phrased its request in the form of a search warrant, but the firm immediately handed them over, EquuSearch officials said.

Croslin-Cummings' attorney, Robert Fields of Palatka, downplayed the value of the materials.

"Everyone knows that if there was any merit, polygraphs and these sorts of things would be admissible in court," Fields said.

Fields also said that his understanding from conversations he had with Croslin-Cummings was that she agreed to the testing by EquuSearch because "she was told that if she did not take the exams, they (EquuSearch) would not bring any assets to the search." Miller has denied that allegation.

"We will be in Florida very, very soon to search for Haleigh," Miller said. "I am not a detective and did not want to be in the position this has put me in."

Those close to the case said EquuSearch will launch a search this morning at an undisclosed location in Putnam County.

Croslin-Cummings' results also put her attorney in an embarrassing position.

"This all kind of hit me out of the blue," Fields said. "My advice to her was 'Don't speak to any law enforcement without speaking to me first,' and I found it hard to imagine that a private party would be playing Magnum P.I."

Seventh Judicial Circuit Assistant State Attorney Christopher Kelly gave no indication that any arrest or other legal action is imminent.

"We have been in touch with the Sheriff's Office since the beginning, but this is still under investigation, so it is still in their hands," Kelly said.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 28, 2009, 09:00:32 PM
glenn frey - the heat is on video ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-mU-YSk32I


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 28, 2009, 09:00:35 PM
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090828/ARTICLES/908289905/1003/NEWS04?Title=New-search-for-Haleigh-may-come-Saturday             With a pic of the rose.

I wonder if they can get fingerprints or any DNA on the plastic rose to see where it came from..... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 09:03:56 PM
glenn frey - the heat is on video ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-mU-YSk32I
   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 28, 2009, 09:06:04 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/MistyHaleighRose.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 28, 2009, 09:06:39 PM
glenn frey - the heat is on video ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-mU-YSk32I
   ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 09:06:44 PM
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090828/ARTICLES/908289905/1003/NEWS04?Title=New-search-for-Haleigh-may-come-Saturday             With a pic of the rose.

I wonder if they can get fingerprints or any DNA on the plastic rose to see where it came from..... ::MonkeyTongue::
Probably       When asked “is there anything else you can remember, in particular, is there anywhere police should be looking”, she paused and said “there’s a place that needs to be searched again.” She then gave us specific directions and said “look in the forest for a single red rose”. (Why would she tell them this?)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 09:07:29 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/MistyHaleighRose.jpg)
Well, this is all plain creepy  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Tams on August 28, 2009, 09:14:21 PM
Thanks Trimm.   "She claimed she was there for a voluntary interview and yet she exhibited a lot of signs verbally and nonverbally that it wasn't voluntary," he said. (This is what I don't understand, if you voluntarily wanted to do this, why fight it?  ::MonkeyConfused::)

Hello Monkeys! Just had to check in on my dinner break at work . . .

This is how I am taking the hypnotist's statements - see what you all think (a different perspective, anyway, maybe?):

Just maybe . . . Misty volunteered to do all of this in an attempt to try to divert attention from herself. As mentioned previously, she is such a seasoned liar - a skill she's been honing her entire life - and so arrogant (and stupid), that she genuinely thought she could pull off lying on these tests & getting away with it. Due to her heavy involvement with the drug community and a family/circle of friends full of criminals, she could have learned/been encouraged to take relaxants (oxycontin, etc.), which some criminals think can alter the test results. The professionals would be able to see through this, though, since they called in some of "the best" . . . Thus, the "voluntary" aspect.

With regards to the hypnosis - I believe that the professional trying to put her under is trying very tactfully to simply say that "she was faking it" . . . her behavior was NOT consistent with someone who is truly in a deep hypnotic state. By stating that she was "fighting it", I believe that he meant that she never allowed herself to go under, and was just pretending she was - with her canned scripted answers. IMO, this is what she had planned all along when she set this whole testing thing up - - - and it all blew up in her face. She's been able to lie & manipulate her way out of things her whole life - she thought she could with LE as well . . .

All JMO . . . will be interested to watch NG repeats tonight to see what the experts have to say . . .



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 28, 2009, 09:16:15 PM
Oh yeah no rose...... creepy, indeed


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 09:17:15 PM
Tams, yes that makes sense.    What I don't get is all of a sudden out of nowhere Misty comes up with this rose story? Why now, what was the point, is this some sort of set up?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 28, 2009, 09:21:52 PM
Tams, yes that makes sense.    What I don't get is all of a sudden out of nowhere Misty comes up with this rose story? Why now, what was the point, is this some sort of set up?

this is indeed very strange! wth comes to mind! ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 28, 2009, 09:26:18 PM
It is very strange... Let no stone  be unturned... I wonder if there any any inside pictures that were posted had any red plastic roses in their MH .. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 28, 2009, 09:31:54 PM
http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/does-a-rose-hold-the-clue-to-where-haleigh-is/




By Steph
Or is Misty Cummings sending investigators on a wild goose chase? This week, during one of several long conversations, with Misty Cummings, she revealed something that may, or may be of interest. When asked “is there anything else you can remember, in particular, is there anywhere police should be looking”, she paused and said “there’s a place that needs to be searched again.” She then gave us specific directions and said “look in the forest for a single red rose”. Ronald drove us to the location she described and when we entered into the woods as directed we found a red plastic rose, covered lightly with brush. It was an eerie moment and we quickly retreated with the intention of going directly to law enforcement, which we did. We returned later with law enforcement and without Ronald Cummings. Investigators bagged the rose and decided the area was worth being searched. The intense, detailed search with law enforcement and Texas equusearch is scheduled for tomorrow morning. I have been asked not to disclose the location, because IF this tip is actually credible, no one will attempt to tamper with the evidence.
Here’s what I find interesting about this. If you are completely innocent and allegedly have NO knowledge of a crime or NO knowledge of anyone who may have committed this crime. Why would even elude that you may know where the body is buried? Why would you lead people to an area where you think a little girl may be buried? A little girl who you were the last person known to see her? Perhaps to distract law enforcement/searchers away from an area where the body actually is? If this turns up to be nothing, is Misty taking tips from the Casey Anthony handbook; “How To Lead Investigators On A Wild Goose Chase”? Perhaps Misty’s tip of what may be buried there is just as telling as what isn’t. We will know more tomorrow.
 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

I really wish Steph would date his work

I think STEPH may be a college age female that used to post on MyFox blog, and had a ustream program for a while.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 28, 2009, 09:33:43 PM


I missed the first airing of NG.  Was TJ Ward on there?


"Look in the forest" ... and Ron took them straight to the rose ...    ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Sassycat on August 28, 2009, 09:36:48 PM
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090828/ARTICLES/908289905/1003/NEWS04?Title=New-search-for-Haleigh-may-come-Saturday             With a pic of the rose.

I wonder if they can get fingerprints or any DNA on the plastic rose to see where it came from..... ::MonkeyTongue::
Probably       When asked “is there anything else you can remember, in particular, is there anywhere police should be looking”, she paused and said “there’s a place that needs to be searched again.” She then gave us specific directions and said “look in the forest for a single red rose”. (Why would she tell them this?)

I wonder if she realizes how much trouble she is in yet?     ::MonkeyNoNo::    Either way you look at it - whether she is lying or telling the truth or just trying to mislead LE  - she is in big trouble.   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 28, 2009, 09:38:44 PM
http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/does-a-rose-hold-the-clue-to-where-haleigh-is/




By Steph
Or is Misty Cummings sending investigators on a wild goose chase? This week, during one of several long conversations, with Misty Cummings, she revealed something that may, or may be of interest. When asked “is there anything else you can remember, in particular, is there anywhere police should be looking”, she paused and said “there’s a place that needs to be searched again.” She then gave us specific directions and said “look in the forest for a single red rose”. Ronald drove us to the location she described and when we entered into the woods as directed we found a red plastic rose, covered lightly with brush. It was an eerie moment and we quickly retreated with the intention of going directly to law enforcement, which we did. We returned later with law enforcement and without Ronald Cummings. Investigators bagged the rose and decided the area was worth being searched. The intense, detailed search with law enforcement and Texas equusearch is scheduled for tomorrow morning. I have been asked not to disclose the location, because IF this tip is actually credible, no one will attempt to tamper with the evidence.
Here’s what I find interesting about this. If you are completely innocent and allegedly have NO knowledge of a crime or NO knowledge of anyone who may have committed this crime. Why would even elude that you may know where the body is buried? Why would you lead people to an area where you think a little girl may be buried? A little girl who you were the last person known to see her? Perhaps to distract law enforcement/searchers away from an area where the body actually is? If this turns up to be nothing, is Misty taking tips from the Casey Anthony handbook; “How To Lead Investigators On A Wild Goose Chase”? Perhaps Misty’s tip of what may be buried there is just as telling as what isn’t. We will know more tomorrow.
 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

I really wish Steph would date his work

I think STEPH may be a college age female that used to post on MyFox blog, and had a ustream program for a while.

Well there really is a Steph Watt's and he did use to work for Greta and Fox, so if this person is impersonating him they could probably get in trouble.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 09:42:32 PM
 What reason did she give them for knowing about the rose and why would she send them there if she doesn't know what happened to Haleigh?

 Misty bringing the single rose location to people's attention, then she was incriminating herself in a big way. How did she know about it? There is no way that she accidentally found it. Does she want this over with?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Sassycat on August 28, 2009, 09:45:40 PM
What reason did she give them for knowing about the rose and why would she send them there if she doesn't know what happened to Haleigh?

 Misty bringing the single rose location to people's attention, then she was incriminating herself in a big way. How did she know about it? There is no way that she accidentally found it. Does she want this over with?

Exactly.   The only explanation would be that she is one stupid girl and hasn't thought it all through.     ::MonkeyNoNo::
That girl is going down, imo.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 28, 2009, 09:51:18 PM
What reason did she give them for knowing about the rose and why would she send them there if she doesn't know what happened to Haleigh?

 Misty bringing the single rose location to people's attention, then she was incriminating herself in a big way. How did she know about it? There is no way that she accidentally found it. Does she want this over with?

And Ron went along with it, I don't get that either.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 28, 2009, 09:52:45 PM


I missed the first airing of NG.  Was TJ Ward on there?


"Look in the forest" ... and Ron took them straight to the rose ...    ::MonkeyConfused::

Yes.....we can get a transcript tomorrow.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on August 28, 2009, 09:53:11 PM
http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/does-a-rose-hold-the-clue-to-where-haleigh-is/




By Steph
Or is Misty Cummings sending investigators on a wild goose chase? This week, during one of several long conversations, with Misty Cummings, she revealed something that may, or may be of interest. When asked “is there anything else you can remember, in particular, is there anywhere police should be looking”, she paused and said “there’s a place that needs to be searched again.” She then gave us specific directions and said “look in the forest for a single red rose”. Ronald drove us to the location she described and when we entered into the woods as directed we found a red plastic rose, covered lightly with brush. It was an eerie moment and we quickly retreated with the intention of going directly to law enforcement, which we did. We returned later with law enforcement and without Ronald Cummings. Investigators bagged the rose and decided the area was worth being searched. The intense, detailed search with law enforcement and Texas equusearch is scheduled for tomorrow morning. I have been asked not to disclose the location, because IF this tip is actually credible, no one will attempt to tamper with the evidence.
Here’s what I find interesting about this. If you are completely innocent and allegedly have NO knowledge of a crime or NO knowledge of anyone who may have committed this crime. Why would even elude that you may know where the body is buried? Why would you lead people to an area where you think a little girl may be buried? A little girl who you were the last person known to see her? Perhaps to distract law enforcement/searchers away from an area where the body actually is? If this turns up to be nothing, is Misty taking tips from the Casey Anthony handbook; “How To Lead Investigators On A Wild Goose Chase”? Perhaps Misty’s tip of what may be buried there is just as telling as what isn’t. We will know more tomorrow.
 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

I really wish Steph would date his work

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/does-a-rose-hold-the-clue-to-where-haleigh-is/



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 28, 2009, 09:56:48 PM
GramaMonkey - yes but if you go to that specific post the date is not there.   It's in the url but not on the page with the article.  No huge problem it would just be nice if the date showed up there as well.

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/26/police-misty-cummings-holds-the-key-to-haleigh-cummings-dissapearance/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 09:57:39 PM
Thanks Trimm.   "She claimed she was there for a voluntary interview and yet she exhibited a lot of signs verbally and nonverbally that it wasn't voluntary," he said. (This is what I don't understand, if you voluntarily wanted to do this, why fight it?  ::MonkeyConfused::)

Hello Monkeys! Just had to check in on my dinner break at work . . .

This is how I am taking the hypnotist's statements - see what you all think (a different perspective, anyway, maybe?):

Just maybe . . . Misty volunteered to do all of this in an attempt to try to divert attention from herself. As mentioned previously, she is such a seasoned liar - a skill she's been honing her entire life - and so arrogant (and stupid), that she genuinely thought she could pull off lying on these tests & getting away with it. Due to her heavy involvement with the drug community and a family/circle of friends full of criminals, she could have learned/been encouraged to take relaxants (oxycontin, etc.), which some criminals think can alter the test results. The professionals would be able to see through this, though, since they called in some of "the best" . . . Thus, the "voluntary" aspect.

With regards to the hypnosis - I believe that the professional trying to put her under is trying very tactfully to simply say that "she was faking it" . . . her behavior was NOT consistent with someone who is truly in a deep hypnotic state. By stating that she was "fighting it", I believe that he meant that she never allowed herself to go under, and was just pretending she was - with her canned scripted answers. IMO, this is what she had planned all along when she set this whole testing thing up - - - and it all blew up in her face. She's been able to lie & manipulate her way out of things her whole life - she thought she could with LE as well . . .

All JMO . . . will be interested to watch NG repeats tonight to see what the experts have to say . . .



I agree with you about the poly, but I'm wondering IF they were really trying to hypnotize her OR truly circumventing LE procedures and thereby getting her to talk without her atty having to be there..............just a theory ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 28, 2009, 09:58:24 PM
http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/does-a-rose-hold-the-clue-to-where-haleigh-is/




By Steph
Or is Misty Cummings sending investigators on a wild goose chase? This week, during one of several long conversations, with Misty Cummings, she revealed something that may, or may be of interest. When asked “is there anything else you can remember, in particular, is there anywhere police should be looking”, she paused and said “there’s a place that needs to be searched again.” She then gave us specific directions and said “look in the forest for a single red rose”. Ronald drove us to the location she described and when we entered into the woods as directed we found a red plastic rose, covered lightly with brush. It was an eerie moment and we quickly retreated with the intention of going directly to law enforcement, which we did. We returned later with law enforcement and without Ronald Cummings. Investigators bagged the rose and decided the area was worth being searched. The intense, detailed search with law enforcement and Texas equusearch is scheduled for tomorrow morning. I have been asked not to disclose the location, because IF this tip is actually credible, no one will attempt to tamper with the evidence.
Here’s what I find interesting about this. If you are completely innocent and allegedly have NO knowledge of a crime or NO knowledge of anyone who may have committed this crime. Why would even elude that you may know where the body is buried? Why would you lead people to an area where you think a little girl may be buried? A little girl who you were the last person known to see her? Perhaps to distract law enforcement/searchers away from an area where the body actually is? If this turns up to be nothing, is Misty taking tips from the Casey Anthony handbook; “How To Lead Investigators On A Wild Goose Chase”? Perhaps Misty’s tip of what may be buried there is just as telling as what isn’t. We will know more tomorrow.
 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

I really wish Steph would date his work

I think STEPH may be a college age female that used to post on MyFox blog, and had a ustream program for a while.

Well there really is a Steph Watt's and he did use to work for Greta and Fox, so if this person is impersonating him they could probably get in trouble.

Well, you know more about it than I do. It was just who I thought of when I saw the name and thought of her. She was studying to get into the media. My Bad. I will go back to lurking.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 10:00:00 PM


I missed the first airing of NG.  Was TJ Ward on there?


"Look in the forest" ... and Ron took them straight to the rose ...    ::MonkeyConfused::

Yes.....we can get a transcript tomorrow.

Even with excellent directions (which I wonder if Misty is even able to elobarte properly), how on earth do you go directly to a single rose under some brush when there is that type of heavy vegatation all around?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on August 28, 2009, 10:00:23 PM
GramaMonkey - yes but if you go to that specific post the date is not there.   It's in the url but not on the page with the article.  No huge problem it would just be nice if the date showed up there as well.

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/26/police-misty-cummings-holds-the-key-to-haleigh-cummings-dissapearance/

Yes, I had noticed that.  But, this was the best I could find for date.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 28, 2009, 10:01:16 PM
San - your post made me think of this emoticon  ::MonkeyTease::  I told you so, lol  ::MonkeyTease::

Oops wrong forum - meant for the NH forum, lol  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 10:01:19 PM
http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/does-a-rose-hold-the-clue-to-where-haleigh-is/




By Steph
Or is Misty Cummings sending investigators on a wild goose chase? This week, during one of several long conversations, with Misty Cummings, she revealed something that may, or may be of interest. When asked “is there anything else you can remember, in particular, is there anywhere police should be looking”, she paused and said “there’s a place that needs to be searched again.” She then gave us specific directions and said “look in the forest for a single red rose”. Ronald drove us to the location she described and when we entered into the woods as directed we found a red plastic rose, covered lightly with brush. It was an eerie moment and we quickly retreated with the intention of going directly to law enforcement, which we did. We returned later with law enforcement and without Ronald Cummings. Investigators bagged the rose and decided the area was worth being searched. The intense, detailed search with law enforcement and Texas equusearch is scheduled for tomorrow morning. I have been asked not to disclose the location, because IF this tip is actually credible, no one will attempt to tamper with the evidence.
Here’s what I find interesting about this. If you are completely innocent and allegedly have NO knowledge of a crime or NO knowledge of anyone who may have committed this crime. Why would even elude that you may know where the body is buried? Why would you lead people to an area where you think a little girl may be buried? A little girl who you were the last person known to see her? Perhaps to distract law enforcement/searchers away from an area where the body actually is? If this turns up to be nothing, is Misty taking tips from the Casey Anthony handbook; “How To Lead Investigators On A Wild Goose Chase”? Perhaps Misty’s tip of what may be buried there is just as telling as what isn’t. We will know more tomorrow.
 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

I really wish Steph would date his work

I think STEPH may be a college age female that used to post on MyFox blog, and had a ustream program for a while.

Well there really is a Steph Watt's and he did use to work for Greta and Fox, so if this person is impersonating him they could probably get in trouble.

Well, you know more about it than I do. It was just who I thought of when I saw the name and thought of her. She was studying to get into the media. My Bad. I will go back to lurking.

Don't lurk~I had to double check to make sure this was the same Steph Watts from GVS myself. I just remember his voice so clearly from all the reporting on the Drew P case.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 10:02:51 PM
What reason did she give them for knowing about the rose and why would she send them there if she doesn't know what happened to Haleigh?

 Misty bringing the single rose location to people's attention, then she was incriminating herself in a big way. How did she know about it? There is no way that she accidentally found it. Does she want this over with?

And Ron went along with it, I don't get that either.
So the question is did he know about it as long as Misty did, or did he not, and just followed Misty's directions and took the people right to the rose?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 28, 2009, 10:06:56 PM

I missed the first airing of NG.  Was TJ Ward on there?

"Look in the forest" ... and Ron took them straight to the rose ...    ::MonkeyConfused::

Yes.....we can get a transcript tomorrow.

Thank you


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 28, 2009, 10:07:16 PM
So is Tim suppose to search the rose area tommorrow??? Then will they disclose the area????...I tell you what ...after her pointing the finger to her brother and then telling this rose story then LE taking him in for questioning I think that they are trying to set up her brother for whatever reason but he may go in there and tell life long stories about Misty ,,,I think that this girl is C_R_A_Z_Y !!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 28, 2009, 10:11:49 PM
What reason did she give them for knowing about the rose and why would she send them there if she doesn't know what happened to Haleigh?

 Misty bringing the single rose location to people's attention, then she was incriminating herself in a big way. How did she know about it? There is no way that she accidentally found it. Does she want this over with?

And Ron went along with it, I don't get that either.
So the question is did he know about it as long as Misty did, or did he not, and just followed Misty's directions and took the people right to the rose?

Yes, that's the question.  Now, what is the answer please?    ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 10:12:28 PM
So is Tim suppose to search the rose area tommorrow??? Then will they disclose the area????...I tell you what ...after her pointing the finger to her brother and then telling this rose story then LE taking him in for questioning I think that they are trying to set up her brother for whatever reason but he may go in there and tell life long stories about Misty ,,,I think that this girl is C_R_A_Z_Y !!!!
I'm wondering if this is all a set up, cooked up by Ron and Misty to go after Misty's brother, she called him a crackhead, and it appears she suggested inappropriate behavior on his part with her.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 28, 2009, 10:12:46 PM
San - your post made me think of this emoticon  ::MonkeyTease::  I told you so, lol  ::MonkeyTease::

K- we need a puke emoticon...would be most useful on the Jaycee thread...TIA


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 28, 2009, 10:14:17 PM
San - your post made me think of this emoticon  ::MonkeyTease::  I told you so, lol  ::MonkeyTease::

K- we need a puke emoticon...would be most useful on the Jaycee thread...TIA

Yes O/T - I'm affraid that case is going to get alot worse before it gets better.  I worry that we only know of 2 children and wonder if there were more.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Bud's Girl on August 28, 2009, 10:14:51 PM

Don't lurk~I had to double check to make sure this was the same Steph Watts from GVS myself. I just remember his voice so clearly from all the reporting on the Drew P case.

Did you verify it was him?

I asked him by email from his main website and he says yes, that's his blog.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 28, 2009, 10:17:30 PM
Fanny - please don't lurk.  I wouldn't know who it was if I hadn't followed the Stacy Peterson case.  Steph Watts was in Bolingbrook for quite a while as Greta's producer in that case.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 10:17:48 PM

Don't lurk~I had to double check to make sure this was the same Steph Watts from GVS myself. I just remember his voice so clearly from all the reporting on the Drew P case.

Did you verify it was him?

I asked him by email from his main website and he says yes, that's his blog.

No~I just went to the main page that has his photo and recognized him from the GVS show.

Good job verifying it!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: BlueKYGirl on August 28, 2009, 10:19:49 PM
So is Tim suppose to search the rose area tommorrow??? Then will they disclose the area????...I tell you what ...after her pointing the finger to her brother and then telling this rose story then LE taking him in for questioning I think that they are trying to set up her brother for whatever reason but he may go in there and tell life long stories about Misty ,,,I think that this girl is C_R_A_Z_Y !!!!

I don't know if she's crazy or not, but her grammar makes the Baby Jesus cry.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 28, 2009, 10:20:29 PM
o/t  I sure wish that Greta still covered these cases..she usually had some really good fact based info on her shows..now it is all politics...bah!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on August 28, 2009, 10:21:13 PM
I did some reading on WS this week in the Dream and Visions thread and several people there had dreams early on about a rose.....maybe the Cummings read at Web Sleuths, and threw this in the wash. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 10:21:25 PM
So is Tim suppose to search the rose area tommorrow??? Then will they disclose the area????...I tell you what ...after her pointing the finger to her brother and then telling this rose story then LE taking him in for questioning I think that they are trying to set up her brother for whatever reason but he may go in there and tell life long stories about Misty ,,,I think that this girl is C_R_A_Z_Y !!!!
I'm wondering if this is all a set up, cooked up by Ron and Misty to go after Misty's brother, she called him a crackhead, and it appears she suggested inappropriate behavior on his part with her.

I wonder about that too as she's tried to throw Crystal's side of th efamily, Unlce Joe and now her brother under the bus (and maybe he had something to do with it), but she's told so many lies and GGMS stated she saw Haleigh AFTER TC left that night around 7pm so I just don't know anymore. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 10:23:16 PM
I did some reading on WS this week in the Dream and Visions thread and several people there had dreams early on about a rose.....maybe the Cummings read at Web Sleuths, and threw this in the wash. ::MonkeyConfused::

OMG~I thought the same thing when Misty mentioned Crystal's side of the family and the child support theory that was so banned around the blogs as motive for so long.........I'd be willing to bet a month's salary she has read the blogs and that's where some of her "theories" have come from  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Sassycat on August 28, 2009, 10:23:23 PM
So is Tim suppose to search the rose area tommorrow??? Then will they disclose the area????...I tell you what ...after her pointing the finger to her brother and then telling this rose story then LE taking him in for questioning I think that they are trying to set up her brother for whatever reason but he may go in there and tell life long stories about Misty ,,,I think that this girl is C_R_A_Z_Y !!!!

I don't know if she's crazy or not, but her grammar makes the Baby Jesus cry.

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 28, 2009, 10:27:39 PM
Misty said that she started cooking supper at 6 o'clock.....Sykes said that she was there about 7 or 730 and the kids were eating on the porch mac n cheese....when does it take an hour and a half to make  mac n cheese from the box?
 And she said that she was cooking and washing the blankets and in the first interview which according to her washing timeline they would have been done about 730 or 800 then she said that she put Haleigh to bed about 8 o'clock and covered her up with a sheet and washed the blankets and that when the blankets were done she covered Haleigh up and her and Junior went to sleep about 10 00.....sooooo many inconsistencies and they just keep coming ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 10:31:43 PM
Misty said that she started cooking supper at 6 o'clock.....Sykes said that she was there about 7 or 730 and the kids were eating on the porch mac n cheese....when does it take an hour and a half to make  mac n cheese from the box?
 And she said that she was cooking and washing the blankets and in the first interview which according to her washing timeline they would have been done about 730 or 800 then she said that she put Haleigh to bed about 8 o'clock and covered her up with a sheet and washed the blankets and that when the blankets were done she covered Haleigh up and her and Junior went to sleep about 10 00.....sooooo many inconsistencies and they just keep coming ::MonkeyConfused::


I agree.........on the "lighter" side I almost fell off my aRSE laughing when I heard her say she helped with homework ::MonkeyLaugh:: I think Haleigh could probably write and spell better than Misty to be honest ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: BlueKYGirl on August 28, 2009, 10:32:39 PM
And, speaking from experience, it takes exactly 3 minutes to make a kid-sized serving mac-and-cheese from a box.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 10:36:12 PM
And, speaking from experience, it takes exactly 3 minutes to make a kid-sized serving mac-and-cheese from a box.

True, but it may have taken her the other 27 minutes to read the directions ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 28, 2009, 10:37:03 PM
Misty said that she started cooking supper at 6 o'clock.....Sykes said that she was there about 7 or 730 and the kids were eating on the porch mac n cheese....when does it take an hour and a half to make  mac n cheese from the box?
 And she said that she was cooking and washing the blankets and in the first interview which according to her washing timeline they would have been done about 730 or 800 then she said that she put Haleigh to bed about 8 o'clock and covered her up with a sheet and washed the blankets and that when the blankets were done she covered Haleigh up and her and Junior went to sleep about 10 00.....sooooo many inconsistencies and they just keep coming ::MonkeyConfused::


I agree.........on the "lighter" side I almost fell off my aRSE laughing when I heard her say she helped with homework ::MonkeyLaugh:: I think Haleigh could probably write and spell better than Misty to be honest ::MonkeyRoll::

I know my husband asked me if a kindergardtner even has homework?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 28, 2009, 10:38:23 PM
o/t  I sure wish that Greta still covered these cases..she usually had some really good fact based info on her shows..now it is all politics...bah!

Greta does what Fox tells her to do, IMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 28, 2009, 10:41:31 PM
So is Tim suppose to search the rose area tommorrow??? Then will they disclose the area????...I tell you what ...after her pointing the finger to her brother and then telling this rose story then LE taking him in for questioning I think that they are trying to set up her brother for whatever reason but he may go in there and tell life long stories about Misty ,,,I think that this girl is C_R_A_Z_Y !!!!

I don't know if she's crazy or not, but her grammar makes the Baby Jesus cry.
I am wondering if it is really that bad ...can't really see her making it to 7th grade that way .....we need to compare her spelling to the myspace grammar and her signature to the marriage liscense one because I am thinking that she may be trying to act dumber than she is and also she is pulling out the I am only 17 years old crap JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 10:43:38 PM
So is Tim suppose to search the rose area tommorrow??? Then will they disclose the area????...I tell you what ...after her pointing the finger to her brother and then telling this rose story then LE taking him in for questioning I think that they are trying to set up her brother for whatever reason but he may go in there and tell life long stories about Misty ,,,I think that this girl is C_R_A_Z_Y !!!!

I don't know if she's crazy or not, but her grammar makes the Baby Jesus cry.
  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 28, 2009, 10:44:27 PM
Misty said that she started cooking supper at 6 o'clock.....Sykes said that she was there about 7 or 730 and the kids were eating on the porch mac n cheese....when does it take an hour and a half to make  mac n cheese from the box?
 And she said that she was cooking and washing the blankets and in the first interview which according to her washing timeline they would have been done about 730 or 800 then she said that she put Haleigh to bed about 8 o'clock and covered her up with a sheet and washed the blankets and that when the blankets were done she covered Haleigh up and her and Junior went to sleep about 10 00.....sooooo many inconsistencies and they just keep coming ::MonkeyConfused::


I agree.........on the "lighter" side I almost fell off my aRSE laughing when I heard her say she helped with homework ::MonkeyLaugh:: I think Haleigh could probably write and spell better than Misty to be honest ::MonkeyRoll::

I know my husband asked me if a kindergardtner even has homework?

yes...my granddaughter was a kindergartner last year and she had homework every single night! lots too I thought for a 5 yr old...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 10:44:31 PM
I did some reading on WS this week in the Dream and Visions thread and several people there had dreams early on about a rose.....maybe the Cummings read at Web Sleuths, and threw this in the wash. ::MonkeyConfused::
Funny you say that, I read that over there also, and you may be right  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 10:44:33 PM
Geraniums1Heavy police in Hoot Owl Ridge area, helicopters during the last couple of days, more info coming in....


Any idea where Hoot Owl Ridge is???????????/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 10:46:44 PM
Misty said that she started cooking supper at 6 o'clock.....Sykes said that she was there about 7 or 730 and the kids were eating on the porch mac n cheese....when does it take an hour and a half to make  mac n cheese from the box?
 And she said that she was cooking and washing the blankets and in the first interview which according to her washing timeline they would have been done about 730 or 800 then she said that she put Haleigh to bed about 8 o'clock and covered her up with a sheet and washed the blankets and that when the blankets were done she covered Haleigh up and her and Junior went to sleep about 10 00.....sooooo many inconsistencies and they just keep coming ::MonkeyConfused::
Maybe it takes her that long to make mac and cheese from a box  ::MonkeyRoll::  I swear if I hear her say anything more on those blankets, I will scream.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 10:47:27 PM
Misty said that she started cooking supper at 6 o'clock.....Sykes said that she was there about 7 or 730 and the kids were eating on the porch mac n cheese....when does it take an hour and a half to make  mac n cheese from the box?
 And she said that she was cooking and washing the blankets and in the first interview which according to her washing timeline they would have been done about 730 or 800 then she said that she put Haleigh to bed about 8 o'clock and covered her up with a sheet and washed the blankets and that when the blankets were done she covered Haleigh up and her and Junior went to sleep about 10 00.....sooooo many inconsistencies and they just keep coming ::MonkeyConfused::


I agree.........on the "lighter" side I almost fell off my aRSE laughing when I heard her say she helped with homework ::MonkeyLaugh:: I think Haleigh could probably write and spell better than Misty to be honest ::MonkeyRoll::
  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyDevil::  Unbelievable


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 10:48:02 PM
And, speaking from experience, it takes exactly 3 minutes to make a kid-sized serving mac-and-cheese from a box.

True, but it may have taken her the other 27 minutes to read the directions ::MonkeyBike::
  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: BlueKYGirl on August 28, 2009, 10:49:19 PM
So is Tim suppose to search the rose area tommorrow??? Then will they disclose the area????...I tell you what ...after her pointing the finger to her brother and then telling this rose story then LE taking him in for questioning I think that they are trying to set up her brother for whatever reason but he may go in there and tell life long stories about Misty ,,,I think that this girl is C_R_A_Z_Y !!!!

I don't know if she's crazy or not, but her grammar makes the Baby Jesus cry.
I am wondering if it is really that bad ...can't really see her making it to 7th grade that way .....we need to compare her spelling to the myspace grammar and her signature to the marriage liscense one because I am thinking that she may be trying to act dumber than she is and also she is pulling out the I am only 17 years old crap JMO

I don't know...I really haven't been following this case and just turned on Nancy Grace tonight randomly. So, for what it's worth, I'm coming into this without any agenda or prejudices. But she strikes me as a potentially pretty, very manipulative girl who has never had any advantage in life at all. I mean, what 17-year-old shacks up with a boyfriend and his children in a trailer? (When I was 17 I was playing violin in the high school orchestra and planning for college). I'm not saying she's innocent (far from it, in my opinion). I'm just saying I genuinely believe she's low-class and disadvantaged...but maybe that's what she wants me to believe!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 10:49:22 PM
Geraniums1Heavy police in Hoot Owl Ridge area, helicopters during the last couple of days, more info coming in....


Any idea where Hoot Owl Ridge is???????????/
  ::MonkeyEek::  Wow, no I never heard of it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 28, 2009, 10:50:55 PM
New Search For Haleigh May Come Saturday.... Hoot Owl Ridge Area!!!! http://bit.ly/15DRGx

http://twitter.com/RadioNewz#/RadioNewz

Hoot Owl Ridge
320 &322 Hoot Owl Road
Satsuma, FL 32189


(http://landforsale-fl.com/_Images/158/HootOwl%20April%203%20016.jpg)

(http://landforsale-fl.com/_Images/158/HootOwl%20April%203%20020.jpg)

(http://landforsale-fl.com/_Images/158/HootOwl%20April%203%20026.jpg)

(http://landforsale-fl.com/_Images/158/HootOwl%20April%203%20027.jpg)

http://landforsale-fl.com/listingDetails.aspx?pID=158


   
202 Green Ln
FL 32189
1.   Head northwest on Green Ln toward Monroe Ave      
10 ft
2.   Slight right at Monroe Ave      
246 ft
3.   Turn right at Tyler St      
0.4 mi
4.   Turn right at Buffalo Bluff Rd      
1.2 mi
5.   Turn left at S US-17      
1.4 mi
6.   Turn right at Hoot Owl Rd      
0.6 mi
   
322 Hoot Owl Rd, FL 32189



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 10:51:32 PM
Geraniums1Heavy police in Hoot Owl Ridge area, helicopters during the last couple of days, more info coming in....


Any idea where Hoot Owl Ridge is???????????/
  ::MonkeyEek::  Wow, no I never heard of it.
It's off S Highway 17, Satsuma, FL(Satsuma/Hoot Owl Ridge) Area......in between the Kangaroo and Watts Funeral home from what I can gather.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 28, 2009, 10:54:39 PM
Misty said that she started cooking supper at 6 o'clock.....Sykes said that she was there about 7 or 730 and the kids were eating on the porch mac n cheese....when does it take an hour and a half to make  mac n cheese from the box?
 And she said that she was cooking and washing the blankets and in the first interview which according to her washing timeline they would have been done about 730 or 800 then she said that she put Haleigh to bed about 8 o'clock and covered her up with a sheet and washed the blankets and that when the blankets were done she covered Haleigh up and her and Junior went to sleep about 10 00.....sooooo many inconsistencies and they just keep coming ::MonkeyConfused::


I agree.........on the "lighter" side I almost fell off my aRSE laughing when I heard her say she helped with homework ::MonkeyLaugh:: I think Haleigh could probably write and spell better than Misty to be honest ::MonkeyRoll::

I know my husband asked me if a kindergardtner even has homework?

yes...my granddaughter was a kindergartner last year and she had homework every single night! lots too I thought for a 5 yr old...

Oh my gosh....well it has been a long time since I had a kindergartner so I was just wondering ....thanx  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 10:56:01 PM
Misty said that she started cooking supper at 6 o'clock.....Sykes said that she was there about 7 or 730 and the kids were eating on the porch mac n cheese....when does it take an hour and a half to make  mac n cheese from the box?
 And she said that she was cooking and washing the blankets and in the first interview which according to her washing timeline they would have been done about 730 or 800 then she said that she put Haleigh to bed about 8 o'clock and covered her up with a sheet and washed the blankets and that when the blankets were done she covered Haleigh up and her and Junior went to sleep about 10 00.....sooooo many inconsistencies and they just keep coming ::MonkeyConfused::


I agree.........on the "lighter" side I almost fell off my aRSE laughing when I heard her say she helped with homework ::MonkeyLaugh:: I think Haleigh could probably write and spell better than Misty to be honest ::MonkeyRoll::

I know my husband asked me if a kindergardtner even has homework?

yes...my granddaughter was a kindergartner last year and she had homework every single night! lots too I thought for a 5 yr old...

Oh my gosh....well it has been a long time since I had a kindergartner so I was just wondering ....thanx  ::MonkeyAngel::

Mine didn't, my youngest is in the 4th grade now and the most homework he had might be once a week for 5 minutes ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 10:56:44 PM
Thanks, for the directions and pictures, how thick and lush  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 28, 2009, 10:58:20 PM
Geraniums1Heavy police in Hoot Owl Ridge area, helicopters during the last couple of days, more info coming in....


Any idea where Hoot Owl Ridge is???????????/

IM - where are you reading this?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 28, 2009, 10:59:36 PM
Geraniums1Heavy police in Hoot Owl Ridge area, helicopters during the last couple of days, more info coming in....


Any idea where Hoot Owl Ridge is???????????/
  ::MonkeyEek::  Wow, no I never heard of it.
It's off S Highway 17, Satsuma, FL(Satsuma/Hoot Owl Ridge) Area......in between the Kangaroo and Watts Funeral home from what I can gather.
Oh my goodness....did they wait until they thought enough time had gone by that there would be no evidence left ? Then tell them where she was at????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 11:01:22 PM
Geraniums1Heavy police in Hoot Owl Ridge area, helicopters during the last couple of days, more info coming in....


Any idea where Hoot Owl Ridge is???????????/

IM - where are you reading this?

Geraniums and Eadionewz twitter (may be nothing-but I thought what the heck).


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 28, 2009, 11:03:22 PM
Geraniums1Heavy police in Hoot Owl Ridge area, helicopters during the last couple of days, more info coming in....


Any idea where Hoot Owl Ridge is???????????/

IM - where are you reading this?

Geraniums and Eadionewz twitter (may be nothing-but I thought what the heck).

Thanks, I see now where it is  ::MonkeyCool::  I keep forgetting twitter, lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 11:03:48 PM
Geraniums1Heavy police in Hoot Owl Ridge area, helicopters during the last couple of days, more info coming in....


Any idea where Hoot Owl Ridge is???????????/
  ::MonkeyEek::  Wow, no I never heard of it.
It's off S Highway 17, Satsuma, FL(Satsuma/Hoot Owl Ridge) Area......in between the Kangaroo and Watts Funeral home from what I can gather.
Oh my goodness....did they wait until they thought enough time had gone by that there would be no evidence left ? Then tell them where she was at????


Makes me wonder about a set up to be honest, because if they have known about this location for a while and never brought it out until all the intense media presure it's almost like she may very well be buried there, but soooooooo much time has gone by she may not even be "findable", and if she is there would most likely be no evidence just Misty's statements in the lst poly....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 11:07:45 PM
Geraniums1Heavy police in Hoot Owl Ridge area, helicopters during the last couple of days, more info coming in....


Any idea where Hoot Owl Ridge is???????????/

IM - where are you reading this?

Geraniums and Eadionewz twitter (may be nothing-but I thought what the heck).

Thanks, I see now where it is  ::MonkeyCool::  I keep forgetting twitter, lol

Where was it Ron liked to take Haleigh fishing?




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 28, 2009, 11:15:06 PM
Geraniums1Heavy police in Hoot Owl Ridge area, helicopters during the last couple of days, more info coming in....


Any idea where Hoot Owl Ridge is???????????/

IM - where are you reading this?

Geraniums and Eadionewz twitter (may be nothing-but I thought what the heck).

Thanks, I see now where it is  ::MonkeyCool::  I keep forgetting twitter, lol

Where was it Ron liked to take Haleigh fishing?




I don't remember, will try to find that.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 28, 2009, 11:16:03 PM
O/T somewhat, and hold news but pertaining to Hoot Owl Ridge.

Tennant allegedly disposed of debris from vehicles marked "B & G Tree Service" and at times was accompanied by Terry Tennant and Robert "Bobby" Gray. Gray admitted to performing "tree work" with Shawn Tennant, and, on August 15, led investigators to four dump sites containing large piles of land clearing debris. Although he admitted knowing of more illegal dumps, he could not remember the locations.

In a related incident, special agents and county deputies interviewed another witness who allegedly admitted to paying Terry Tennant and Darell Long $140 for tree trimming services. Long and Terry Tennant allegedly dumped tree debris illegally, remarking to the witness: "This came from nature and we'll give it back to nature...all the dirt roads in Hoot Owl Ridge!"

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:bGsy9JuNhocJ:www.dep.state.fl.us/secretary/news/2000/00-084A.htm+Hoot+Owl+Ridge+florida&cd=24&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 11:16:27 PM
Geraniums1Heavy police in Hoot Owl Ridge area, helicopters during the last couple of days, more info coming in....


Any idea where Hoot Owl Ridge is???????????/

IM - where are you reading this?

Geraniums and Eadionewz twitter (may be nothing-but I thought what the heck).

Thanks, I see now where it is  ::MonkeyCool::  I keep forgetting twitter, lol

Where was it Ron liked to take Haleigh fishing?




I don't remember, will try to find that.
Thanks  ::MonkeyCool:: I have about 20 windows open right now, searching for anything ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 28, 2009, 11:17:26 PM
(http://mistycroslin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/haleigh-ron-cummings.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 28, 2009, 11:19:54 PM
Geraniums1Heavy police in Hoot Owl Ridge area, helicopters during the last couple of days, more info coming in....


Any idea where Hoot Owl Ridge is???????????/

IM - where are you reading this?

Geraniums and Eadionewz twitter (may be nothing-but I thought what the heck).

Thanks, I see now where it is  ::MonkeyCool::  I keep forgetting twitter, lol

Where was it Ron liked to take Haleigh fishing?




I don't remember, will try to find that.

Poster Ger has pics of the pond where she thinks it was that Ron took HaLeigh

Shell Pond

http://haleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/index.php?topic=204.0


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 11:20:57 PM
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Misty's Brother and His Wife Questioned in Haleigh's Disappearance
 Taren Reed  Suzanne Chappell     Created: 8/28/2009 8:03:19 PM    Updated: 8/28/2009 8:58:38 PM
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PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- The Putnam County Sheriff's Office is interviewing Misty Cummings' brother and his wife in connection with the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings, who disappeared a little more than 6 months ago from her home in Satsuma.

Hank Croslin tells First Coast News that detectives took his son, Tommy Croslin, to the sheriff's office at about 7 p.m. Friday. Hank Croslin is also Misty's father, but says allegations against his son that he was involved in Haleigh's disappearance are untrue.

Hank Croslin says his son told investigators that he would take a lie detector test to prove his innocence as he was led away.

Tommy Croslin says he has no idea why his sister is accusing him in Haleigh's disappearance. He told First Coast News Misty is trying to pass blame onto someone.

Despite the accusations, he says he stands by his sister and doesn't think she had anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance.

He is now being questioned by detectives. This is the first time he has been brought in for questioning in about a month.

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 11:22:40 PM
Geraniums1Heavy police in Hoot Owl Ridge area, helicopters during the last couple of days, more info coming in....


Any idea where Hoot Owl Ridge is???????????/

IM - where are you reading this?

Geraniums and Eadionewz twitter (may be nothing-but I thought what the heck).

Thanks, I see now where it is  ::MonkeyCool::  I keep forgetting twitter, lol

Where was it Ron liked to take Haleigh fishing?




I don't remember, will try to find that.

Poster Ger has pics of the pond where she thinks it was that Ron took HaLeigh

Shell Pond

http://haleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/index.php?topic=204.0

Thanks Heart!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 11:28:30 PM
Shell Pond area:


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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 28, 2009, 11:29:08 PM
From the Palatka Daily  3/6/09

Family straightens up in Cummings home while others prepare to move vigil site


According to Marie Griffis, Crystal Sheffield's mother and Haleigh's grandmother, their tent at the entrance to Tyler Street off Buffalo Bluff Road may have to be moved.

"Right now I don't know if we will have to move or not," she said. "The owner of River Villas requested we find a place to move."

She said the family would try to move across the canal into a field that Texas-based Equusearch used for staging purposes.

"We may go to an empty lot on Hoot Owl Ridge Road," she said. "Crystal (Haleigh's mother) wants to stay as close as she can and I will be here as long as I can."

more...

http://goldmonkey.org/index.php?topic=838.45;wap2Family straightens up in Cummings home while others prepare to move vigil site


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 28, 2009, 11:29:20 PM
So is Tim suppose to search the rose area tommorrow??? Then will they disclose the area????...I tell you what ...after her pointing the finger to her brother and then telling this rose story then LE taking him in for questioning I think that they are trying to set up her brother for whatever reason but he may go in there and tell life long stories about Misty ,,,I think that this girl is C_R_A_Z_Y !!!!

I don't know if she's crazy or not, but her grammar makes the Baby Jesus cry.
::MonkeyDevil2:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 11:29:58 PM
Tommy Croslin Leaves PCSO a Hero!!!!!!!!   Just off of Radio's twitter, anyone know what this is about?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 11:31:17 PM
Shell Pond area:


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WELL crap...........that didn't work out too well. Those pictures of Shell Pond are creepy!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 28, 2009, 11:38:28 PM
Tommy Croslin Leaves PCSO a Hero!!!!!!!!   Just off of Radio's twitter, anyone know what this is about?
::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 28, 2009, 11:40:28 PM
Tommy Croslin Leaves PCSO a Hero!!!!!!!!   Just off of Radio's twitter, anyone know what this is about?
Where is the twitter link???? I wanna see, I wanna see...finally we are getting some information!!!! ::MonkeyCheer3::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 11:40:58 PM
Tommy Croslin Leaves PCSO a Hero!!!!!!!!   Just off of Radio's twitter, anyone know what this is about?
::MonkeyEek::
Looking on WS rumor thread, evidently the police are satisfied with Tommy's info that he gave.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 28, 2009, 11:41:05 PM
New search for Haleigh may come Saturday


Haleigh's stepmom allegedly pointed out a patch of ground marked by a single plastic rose
Courtesy of Steph Watts
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This screen capture shows Misty Croslin-Cummings during a video taped hypnosis session. The session was arranged by the private search firm EquuSearch.

By Karen Voyles
Staff writer

Published: Friday, August 28, 2009 at 7:42 p.m.
Last Modified: Friday, August 28, 2009 at 7:42 p.m.

A comment Misty Croslin-Cummings allegedly made about investigators needing to double-check a patch of ground marked by a single plastic rose in their search for her missing stepdaughter, Haleigh Cummings, has motivated a private firm to begin scouring the area this morning.

Misty Croslin-Cummings allegedly directed a private search crew to look for this rose in a Putnam County area she thought had not been adequately searched for missing 6 year old Haleigh Cummings. Courtesy Steph Watts
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Special to the Sun

Croslin-Cummings, 17, is said to have made the unrecorded comment while undergoing a lie-detector test, hypnosis session and voice stress test earlier this month. The head of the organization that paid for the tests said the stepmother of Haleigh -- the 6-year-old Putnam County girl missing since February -- was trying to clear her name when she agreed to the tests, yet failed each of them.

"She said there was a place that was not searched very well and that we should look for a red rose, (http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=GS&Date=20090828&Category=ARTICLES&ArtNo=908289905&Ref=V1&Profile=1002)  and she gave us the location," said Steph Watts, who recorded the sessions for EquuSearch, a private Texas firm that founder and director Tim Miller said was contacted by Croslin-Cummings to help clear her name.

"We went and we looked, and we found it, and the next day we took them (Putnam County investigators) back there," Watts said. "I don't think they are going to dig where the rose is and find the body, but the fact that they went with us shows that they are following up on every lead."

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office has said it has followed about 4,000 leads so far in its search for Haleigh, whom Croslin-Cummings reported missing at 3:27 a.m. on Feb. 10.

Croslin-Cummings initially said she had put Haleigh and her younger brother to bed at about 8 p.m. on Feb. 9 in the same room where she went to sleep about two hours later. She was caring for the children because their father, Ronald Cummings, was working the night shift.

When Haleigh was reported missing, the Putnam County Sheriff's Office launched an Amber Alert and led a massive search that included boats, canine teams, four-wheelers, helicopters and horses.

In the months since Haleigh was last seen, investigators have said Cummings and Haleigh's mother, Crystal Sheffield, are not considered suspects.

On Friday afternoon, Putnam Sheriff's Maj. Gary Bowling weighed his words carefully in describing his agency's view of Croslin-Cummings' situation.

"No, I don't think we consider her a suspect," Bowling said. "We factually know that she is consistently inconsistent and we need some factual exactness about her activities the night before Haleigh disappeared until the morning when she was reported missing."

Croslin-Cummings did not respond to interview requests made Friday through her attorney, a friend and a family member. Without the knowledge or approval of her attorney or the Sheriff's Office, she reportedly asked Miller, the director of EquuSearch, to help her clear her name.

The firm was established nearly 10 years ago to assist in searches, especially after local law enforcement agencies are unable to sustain a search. Miller said Haleigh's family reached out to his firm "because they didn't think enough was being done to find her."

Croslin-Cummings then asked for something specific -- assistance clearing her name so that the search could focus on Haleigh, not on rumors about her, Miller said.

"She said she did not trust the cops and asked me if she could take a lie detector test or something," Miller said. "I told her that was out of the realm of what we did, but this was something that she felt would be helpful, and so we arranged it. This is the first time I have ever been put in a position like this. It has ended with Misty (Croslin-Cummings) not speaking to us. "

Miller said the polygraph that Croslin-Cummings underwent in Orlando on Aug. 19 "showed huge deceptions." When Croslin-Cummmings was told about the results, "she said she wanted to be hypnotized," Miller said. "My thought was 'Now where do we go?' My hopes were that she would have passed, but the opposite happened, so we arranged for the hypnosis and a voice analysis to be done at her husband's aunt's house in Welaka."

Apparently, Croslin-Cummings leaked the news about the pending hypnosis and analysis to some of her relatives, and the word spread quickly. Miller said there were lots of people in the yard of the aunt's home during the tests and that within a day or two, a variety of reporters began requesting interviews.

The sessions were taped and have since been distributed to media outlets around the state, including The Sun. The sessions reportedly were paid for by EquuSearch and recorded by Steph Watts, who distributed copies to reporters with the approval of EquuSearch.

Among those asking for a copy of the tapes and other materials was the Sheriff's Office, which phrased its request in the form of a search warrant, but the firm immediately handed them over, EquuSearch officials said.

Croslin-Cummings' attorney, Robert Fields of Palatka, downplayed the value of the materials.

"Everyone knows that if there was any merit, polygraphs and these sorts of things would be admissible in court," Fields said.

Fields also said that his understanding from conversations he had with Croslin-Cummings was that she agreed to the testing by EquuSearch because "she was told that if she did not take the exams, they (EquuSearch) would not bring any assets to the search." Miller has denied that allegation.

"We will be in Florida very, very soon to search for Haleigh," Miller said. "I am not a detective and did not want to be in the position this has put me in."

Those close to the case said EquuSearch will launch a search this morning at an undisclosed location in Putnam County.

Croslin-Cummings' results also put her attorney in an embarrassing position.

"This all kind of hit me out of the blue," Fields said. "My advice to her was 'Don't speak to any law enforcement without speaking to me first,' and I found it hard to imagine that a private party would be playing Magnum P.I."

Seventh Judicial Circuit Assistant State Attorney Christopher Kelly gave no indication that any arrest or other legal action is imminent.

"We have been in touch with the Sheriff's Office since the beginning, but this is still under investigation, so it is still in their hands," Kelly said.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090828/ARTICLES/908289905/1002?Title=New-search-for-Haleigh-may-come-Saturday#


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Puzzler on August 28, 2009, 11:41:47 PM
Tommy Croslin Leaves PCSO a Hero!!!!!!!!   Just off of Radio's twitter, anyone know what this is about?

Good evening, monkeys.

NoRose...could you please give me the link to the comment above?

Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 11:42:16 PM
Tommy Croslin Leaves PCSO a Hero!!!!!!!!   Just off of Radio's twitter, anyone know what this is about?
Where is the twitter link???? I wanna see, I wanna see...finally we are getting some information!!!! ::MonkeyCheer3::
  http://twitter.com/radionewz


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 28, 2009, 11:43:00 PM
Tommy Croslin Leaves PCSO a Hero!!!!!!!!   Just off of Radio's twitter, anyone know what this is about?
Where is the twitter link???? I wanna see, I wanna see...finally we are getting some information!!!! ::MonkeyCheer3::
http://twitter.com/RadioNewz#/RadioNewz


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: GramaMonkey on August 28, 2009, 11:47:20 PM
Putnam County Sheriff Office - Scanner


Listen LIVE to Scanner

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=369



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 11:50:42 PM
Putnam County Sheriff Office - Scanner


Listen LIVE to Scanner

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=369


Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 28, 2009, 11:51:25 PM
well IM, I think with everything that is going on tomorrow might just be a good time to head on down to Putnam..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 28, 2009, 11:51:28 PM
FRIDAY, FEB. 20

Hoot Owl Ridge and an area east of Haleigh's house searched by about 140 officers.

Large-scale ground searches by volunteers suspended.

Misty Croslin denies reports that she was not at home when Haleigh vanished.

Both the maternal and paternal sides of Haleigh&#65533;s family remain at separate campsites.

http://s2.excoboard.com/exco/thread.php...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 11:52:40 PM
From Marie Griffis twitter:
 ::MonkeyWaa::

http://twitter.com/marie1207



marie1207
Jeremiah 31:17 And there is hope in thine end, saith the Lord, that thy children shall come again to their own border.

8 minutes ago from web Jeremiah 31:16 Thus saith the Lord: Refrain thy voice from weeping, and thine eyes from tears: for thy work shall be rewarded, saith the Lord

and they shall come again from the land of the enemy.
9 minutes ago from web


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 28, 2009, 11:54:08 PM
well IM, I think with everything that is going on tomorrow might just be a good time to head on down to Putnam..

I agree, but my son has another football jamboree and friends staying over..............take pic's if you go  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 28, 2009, 11:56:44 PM
FRIDAY, FEB. 20

Hoot Owl Ridge and an area east of Haleigh's house searched by about 140 officers.

Large-scale ground searches by volunteers suspended.

Misty Croslin denies reports that she was not at home when Haleigh vanished.

Both the maternal and paternal sides of Haleigh&#65533;s family remain at separate campsites.

http://s2.excoboard.com/exco/thread.php...

Thanks Heart


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 28, 2009, 11:58:49 PM
the housing development behind tyler in that next neighborhood is hoot owl ridge housing development..... The dumpster that the dogs hit on is rather close to this area. I can't lose my feelings about that dumpster and the dogs hitting on it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 29, 2009, 12:01:53 AM
So was the rose found at Hoot Owl Ridge area?...Tommy Croslin hero ? Did he place Misty away from the house I wonder????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 29, 2009, 12:03:52 AM
the housing development behind tyler in that next neighborhood is hoot owl ridge housing development..... The dumpster that the dogs hit on is rather close to this area. I can't lose my feelings about that dumpster and the dogs hitting on it.
I know and they said that it was three different dogs that hit on the same dumpster....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 29, 2009, 12:04:32 AM
The analyst says the test is showing truth when Misty says that possibly her brother had something to do with Haleigh missing,
Misty says her brother has been acting really really strange, that he sold his truck after HaLeigh came up missing, that he did something to her when she was little, and that a rumor was going around that a red truck was around at the time Haleigh went missing and her brothers truck was red, so thats the reason for Hank Jr. to be taken in for questiong.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 29, 2009, 12:04:37 AM
Do we know how far Hoot Owl Ridge is from the rr tracks????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 29, 2009, 12:08:18 AM
 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 29, 2009, 12:08:20 AM
Mar. 10, 2009

SATSUMA – Vivian Moore remembers cleaning her porch in Hoot Owl Ridge when she prayed to God that he’d make Haleigh Ann-Marie Cummings appear on her road.
That was Wednesday. On Saturday, five days into a fruitless search for the 5-year-old-girl, Moore joined many others in this small community who shared a sense of gloom about Haleigh’s fate.
 
And if anyone should have hope, it’s Moore, the evangelist at the four-pew House of the Reconciled church on U.S. 17.

more...

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-02-15/story/turning_to_prayer


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Tina Bee on August 29, 2009, 12:08:53 AM
Thanks Trimm.   "She claimed she was there for a voluntary interview and yet she exhibited a lot of signs verbally and nonverbally that it wasn't voluntary," he said. (This is what I don't understand, if you voluntarily wanted to do this, why fight it?  ::MonkeyConfused::)

Hello Monkeys! Just had to check in on my dinner break at work . . .

This is how I am taking the hypnotist's statements - see what you all think (a different perspective, anyway, maybe?):

Just maybe . . . Misty volunteered to do all of this in an attempt to try to divert attention from herself. As mentioned previously, she is such a seasoned liar - a skill she's been honing her entire life - and so arrogant (and stupid), that she genuinely thought she could pull off lying on these tests & getting away with it. Due to her heavy involvement with the drug community and a family/circle of friends full of criminals, she could have learned/been encouraged to take relaxants (oxycontin, etc.), which some criminals think can alter the test results. The professionals would be able to see through this, though, since they called in some of "the best" . . . Thus, the "voluntary" aspect.

With regards to the hypnosis - I believe that the professional trying to put her under is trying very tactfully to simply say that "she was faking it" . . . her behavior was NOT consistent with someone who is truly in a deep hypnotic state. By stating that she was "fighting it", I believe that he meant that she never allowed herself to go under, and was just pretending she was - with her canned scripted answers. IMO, this is what she had planned all along when she set this whole testing thing up - - - and it all blew up in her face. She's been able to lie & manipulate her way out of things her whole life - she thought she could with LE as well . . .

All JMO . . . will be interested to watch NG repeats tonight to see what the experts have to say . . .



You've summed up everything that I've been thinking about this whole lie detector, stress, and hypnosis testing. She's faking her way through it and her ignorance has gotten the best of her.

I hope Haleigh is found soon.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 12:09:46 AM
Mar. 10, 2009

SATSUMA – Vivian Moore remembers cleaning her porch in Hoot Owl Ridge when she prayed to God that he’d make Haleigh Ann-Marie Cummings appear on her road.
That was Wednesday. On Saturday, five days into a fruitless search for the 5-year-old-girl, Moore joined many others in this small community who shared a sense of gloom about Haleigh’s fate.
 
And if anyone should have hope, it’s Moore, the evangelist at the four-pew House of the Reconciled church on U.S. 17.

more...

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-02-15/story/turning_to_prayer
   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 29, 2009, 12:14:51 AM
Mar. 10, 2009

SATSUMA – Vivian Moore remembers cleaning her porch in Hoot Owl Ridge when she prayed to God that he’d make Haleigh Ann-Marie Cummings appear on her road.
That was Wednesday. On Saturday, five days into a fruitless search for the 5-year-old-girl, Moore joined many others in this small community who shared a sense of gloom about Haleigh’s fate.
 
And if anyone should have hope, it’s Moore, the evangelist at the four-pew House of the Reconciled church on U.S. 17.

more...

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-02-15/story/turning_to_prayer
   ::MonkeyEek::



she's at 602 Hickory Nut


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OK........I obviously need help with maps......KLAAS????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 29, 2009, 12:15:20 AM
FRIDAY, FEB. 20

Hoot Owl Ridge and an area east of Haleigh's house searched by about 140 officers.

Large-scale ground searches by volunteers suspended.

Misty Croslin denies reports that she was not at home when Haleigh vanished.

Both the maternal and paternal sides of Haleigh&#65533;s family remain at separate campsites.

http://s2.excoboard.com/exco/thread.php...

Thanks Heart

Hi there klaasend!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 29, 2009, 12:18:44 AM
Has everybody watched the voice analysis all the way through without the parts cut out, Misty implicated her brother alot and also Joe and said that if Hank was in on it so was her cousin Joe, when she said this is when the presenter of the test says it showed that she was being truthful, so now things are gonna start moving along.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 29, 2009, 12:19:01 AM
 ::MonkeyEek::

Again from Marie's twitter:

Pray God brings Haleigh home safe and unharmed we miss her so much. #MistyWheresHaLeigh? you hold the key to unlock the truth
1 minute ago from web

PCSO makes 19 arrests just today http://public.pcso.us/jail/...
5 minutes ago from web

If Misty doesn't come clean I am afraid the person(s) she is protecting might just harm her, Please Misty tell the truth and be done,Please
12 minutes ago from web
 I open my bible to find these verses below and I believe with all my heart God will in his time bring HaLeigh home. Hope for HaLeigh always


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 29, 2009, 12:20:52 AM
IM - I'm not sure how to post the maps from their link either.  Normally I'll do a screen capture of any map I pull up.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 29, 2009, 12:23:11 AM
IM - I'm not sure how to post the maps from their link either.  Normally I'll do a screen capture of any map I pull up.

I don't even know how to do a screen capture........... ::MonkeyConfused:: I have to learn how to do that ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 29, 2009, 12:30:58 AM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?maven_playerId=immersiveplayer&maven_referralPlaylistId=e91276d17ee6ae4cc3bcd3da8b1d0b7d36168356&maven_referralObject=1231596480






video from Dom Piscitello regarding Hank ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 29, 2009, 12:32:49 AM
http://maps.google.com/?q=loc%3A+%37%31%33+Hickory+Nut+Trail++Satsuma++FL+US



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 29, 2009, 12:33:13 AM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?maven_playerId=immersiveplayer&maven_referralPlaylistId=e91276d17ee6ae4cc3bcd3da8b1d0b7d36168356&maven_referralObject=1231596480






video from Dom Piscitello regarding Tommy ::MonkeyBike::

edit. I need sleep ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 29, 2009, 12:33:45 AM
Has everybody watched the voice analysis all the way through without the parts cut out, Misty implicated her brother alot and also Joe and said that if Hank was in on it so was her cousin Joe, when she said this is when the presenter of the test says it showed that she was being truthful, so now things are gonna start moving along.
can you post the link to the whole thing....I can only find the bits and pieces tapes....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 29, 2009, 12:38:29 AM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?maven_playerId=immersiveplayer&maven_referralPlaylistId=e91276d17ee6ae4cc3bcd3da8b1d0b7d36168356&maven_referralObject=1231596480




Tommy's interview with FCN........

Misty states Tommy "messed " with her, so this is the 3rd person that has messed with her (Joe, Chad iirc and now Tommy ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 29, 2009, 12:42:28 AM
Has everybody watched the voice analysis all the way through without the parts cut out, Misty implicated her brother alot and also Joe and said that if Hank was in on it so was her cousin Joe, when she said this is when the presenter of the test says it showed that she was being truthful, so now things are gonna start moving along.
can you post the link to the whole thing....I can only find the bits and pieces tapes....
http://www.wftv.com/video/20601690/index.html

This is very interesting and tells alot more than the other ones, this is the entire thing and Misty talks alot more than she did.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 29, 2009, 12:50:28 AM
Thanx HH.... ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 29, 2009, 12:58:25 AM
I just watched the poly AGAIN ::MonkeyConfused:: and I noticed at the very end when they asked her about anyone threatening her, she talks about somebody putting a gun to her mouth. If they would have asked me that Q I would have thought more like averbal threat and my thoughts would have gone straigt to a gun in my mouth. Hmmmmmmm


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 29, 2009, 01:02:29 AM
I just watched the poly AGAIN ::MonkeyConfused:: and I noticed at the very end when they asked her about anyone threatening her, she talks about somebody putting a gun to her mouth. If they would have asked me that Q I would have thought more like averbal threat and my thoughts would have gone straigt to a gun in my mouth. Hmmmmmmm
I think she automatically thinks that way because of the people she is with contact with all the time.,    anyway, if I find out that there is gonna be a search tomorrow Im going to Putnam, gonna see where thsi road is and just what it looks like up close.  I dont know what to think about the rose thing though........The rose didnt look to be faded too much or anything, wonder if somebody put it there for Haleighs birthday.. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 29, 2009, 01:03:16 AM
Misty's Brother and His Wife Questioned in Haleigh's Disappearance


Taren Reed  Suzanne Chappell     Created: 8/28/2009 8:03:19 PM    Updated: 8/28/2009 11:56:53 PM
   

PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- The Putnam County Sheriff's Office is interviewing Misty Cummings' brother and his wife in connection with the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings, who disappeared a little more than 6 months ago from her home in Satsuma.

Hank Croslin tells First Coast News that detectives took his son, Tommy Croslin, to the sheriff's office at about 7 p.m. Friday. Hank Croslin is also Misty's father, but says allegations against his son that he was involved in Haleigh's disappearance are untrue.

Hank Croslin says his son told investigators that he would take a lie detector test to prove his innocence as he was led away.

CLICK HERE TO SEE VIDEO WITH THE INVESTIGATOR THAT INTERVIEWED TOMMY CROSLIN:   http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?maven_playerId=immersiveplayer&maven_referralPlaylistId=e91276d17ee6ae4cc3bcd3da8b1d0b7d36168356&maven_referralObject=1231596480

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=144116&provider=top


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 29, 2009, 01:05:55 AM
I just watched the poly AGAIN ::MonkeyConfused:: and I noticed at the very end when they asked her about anyone threatening her, she talks about somebody putting a gun to her mouth. If they would have asked me that Q I would have thought more like averbal threat and my thoughts would have gone straigt to a gun in my mouth. Hmmmmmmm
I think she automatically thinks that way because of the people she is with contact with all the time.,    anyway, if I find out that there is gonna be a search tomorrow Im going to Putnam, gonna see where thsi road is and just what it looks like up close.  I dont know what to think about the rose thing though........The rose didnt look to be faded too much or anything, wonder if somebody put it there for Haleighs birthday.. ::MonkeyEek::

You're right, I did notice it didn't look that faded......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 29, 2009, 01:11:23 AM
Putnam County Sheriff Office - Scanner


Listen LIVE to Scanner

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=369



How cool is that? Thanks, Grama!!!

Btw .. I left you a post in my thread!

I am listening to the scanner. Very nice link. Thanks again!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 29, 2009, 01:25:23 AM
I feel a sleep.. Geeze... I have the live feed on from Putnam now Thanks Grama..

Checking maps out and looking down Hoot Owl rd...

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/hootowlrdputnam.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 29, 2009, 01:27:53 AM
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/hootowlrd2.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mymonkey on August 29, 2009, 01:30:05 AM
I just thought of something...remember in the interview after the family feud between Ronald and Hank Jr..Hank Jr. said Ronald had been acting weird lately....well now Misty says the same thing about Hank Jr......just a matter of time. I know Misty is not educated but she has a degree in "life of hard knocks" not by any means I'm I defending her...but she is as they say....very street smart...and very cunning and I think LE is just letting her hang herself.jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 29, 2009, 01:38:05 AM
Where the car is pulling out is Hoot Owl Rd and rt17

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/hootowlrdandrt17.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 29, 2009, 01:38:23 AM
Does anyone remember I think that it was Cobra that said that someone had spotted Ron and Misty on some country road, and either one or both got out of the car  and walked  back into a wooded area?  Was that stated on the Blogger News Radio?

Anyone?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 29, 2009, 01:40:34 AM
Does anyone remember I think that it was Cobra that said that someone had spotted Ron and Misty on some country road, and either one or both got out of the car  and walked  back into a wooded area?  Was that stated on the Blogger News Radio?

Anyone?

I think thats where I heard that Heart...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 29, 2009, 01:46:26 AM
Does anyone remember I think that it was Cobra that said that someone had spotted Ron and Misty on some country road, and either one or both got out of the car  and walked  back into a wooded area?  Was that stated on the Blogger News Radio?

Anyone?

I think thats where I heard that Heart...

Thats what came to my mind when I read that Misty had suggested a spot that Eqqusearch  needed to look at again.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 29, 2009, 01:47:47 AM
Does anyone remember I think that it was Cobra that said that someone had spotted Ron and Misty on some country road, and either one or both got out of the car  and walked  back into a wooded area?  Was that stated on the Blogger News Radio?

Anyone?

I think thats where I heard that Heart...

Thanks for the pics!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 29, 2009, 01:49:09 AM
Hoot owl rd and rt 17 map..

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/hootowlrdmap.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 29, 2009, 01:57:07 AM
Does anyone remember where it was that NayNay was suppose to have gotten her car stuck and had to have someone come pull it out?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 29, 2009, 01:59:41 AM
End of Hoot Owl Rd..

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/endofHootowlRd.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 29, 2009, 02:19:01 AM
Hickorynut and Hoot owl area..

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/hickroynutandhootowlarea.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 29, 2009, 02:38:09 AM
Last map of area..

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/hootowlarea.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 29, 2009, 02:40:41 AM
Your Welcome Heart.. Gotta get up early and work tomoorw..

Good Night Sweet Monkey's...

God Bless Haleigh.. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cartfly on August 29, 2009, 03:54:50 AM
I think I smell KARMA in the air!! Can you smell it? It is mixed in with the BS the guilty have been feeding law enforcement! You know what they say about karma....

Justice is coming for you Jacee, Hasanni, Sandra, Robert and Haleigh!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on August 29, 2009, 05:52:31 AM
And, speaking from experience, it takes exactly 3 minutes to make a kid-sized serving mac-and-cheese from a box.

True, but it may have taken her the other 27 minutes to read the directions ::MonkeyBike::

Okay IM....I'm sending YOU the bill for my now iced tea soaked keyboard...........OMG I'm still laughing.....27 min ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: seahorse on August 29, 2009, 06:30:16 AM
And, speaking from experience, it takes exactly 3 minutes to make a kid-sized serving mac-and-cheese from a box.

True, but it may have taken her the other 27 minutes to read the directions ::MonkeyBike::

Okay IM....I'm sending YOU the bill for my now iced tea soaked keyboard...........OMG I'm still laughing.....27 min ::MonkeyJnBox::


Funny. 

Have you ever tried reading a sewing pattern?  A sewing pattern takes days to decode directions.

I go to the Library's, childrens department, if I need to read quick on some subject. Authors only add more words to sell the books, childrens books are mini books and just great without all the needless words.  If we could only have cooking directions on boxes made for children that aren't complicated.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 29, 2009, 07:54:31 AM


I missed the first airing of NG.  Was TJ Ward on there?


"Look in the forest" ... and Ron took them straight to the rose ...    ::MonkeyConfused::

Yes.....we can get a transcript tomorrow.

Nancy Grace Transcripts 08/29/09
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0908/28/ng.01.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 29, 2009, 07:57:54 AM
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5106231.php
New Haleigh Search, Step Uncle Questioned

A comment Misty Croslin-Cummings allegedly made about investigators needing to double-check a patch of ground marked by a single plastic rose in their search for her missing stepdaughter, Haleigh Cummings, has motivated a private firm to begin scouring the area known as Hoot Owl Ridge this morning.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on August 29, 2009, 08:41:16 AM
I've been following this twitter,and it's pretty interesting.I think it was IslandMonkey that posted it.
http://twitter.com/RadioNewz#/RadioNewz


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 09:18:54 AM
I've been following this twitter,and it's pretty interesting.I think it was IslandMonkey that posted it.
http://twitter.com/RadioNewz#/RadioNewz

Thanks Trimm, justice for Haleigh I hope today  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 29, 2009, 09:21:11 AM
Has everybody watched the voice analysis all the way through without the parts cut out, Misty implicated her brother alot and also Joe and said that if Hank was in on it so was her cousin Joe, when she said this is when the presenter of the test says it showed that she was being truthful, so now things are gonna start moving along.

Keep on talking Misty!! 

Are her bro or cousin known to be pedophiles?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cherjers on August 29, 2009, 09:27:50 AM
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090828/ARTICLES/908289905/1003/NEWS04?Title=New-search-for-Haleigh-may-come-Saturday             With a pic of the rose.

I wonder if they can get fingerprints or any DNA on the plastic rose to see where it came from..... ::MonkeyTongue::
Probably       When asked “is there anything else you can remember, in particular, is there anywhere police should be looking”, she paused and said “there’s a place that needs to be searched again.” She then gave us specific directions and said “look in the forest for a single red rose”. (Why would she tell them this?)
  Why would she ask for  poly-when all she does is lie- ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 29, 2009, 09:27:58 AM
New search for Haleigh may come today

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090829/ARTICLES/908291003/1002?Title=New-search-for-Haleigh-may-come-today


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 29, 2009, 09:35:24 AM

Does hypnosis yield clue
in Haleigh case?


(http://media2.myfoxorlando.com//photo/2009/08/29/082809_croslin_tmb0000_20090829000217_60_45.JPG)

Updated: Saturday, 29 Aug 2009, 12:53 AM EDT
Published : Saturday, 29 Aug 2009, 12:53 AM EDT

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - She says she knows where to look for a missing Putnam County girl. Misty Croslin Cummings told searchers to look for a rose in an undisclosed area.

Investigators found the rose and are now processing it as evidence in the disappearance of 3-year-old Haleigh Cummings. Searchers will comb the area this weekend.

Cummings hopes to clear her name, agreeing to talk with forensic hypnotist, John Gastar. You can draw your own conclusion, as you watch the video shot by a freelance photographer at the request of Texas Equusearch founder, Tim Miller.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/state_news/082809_Cummings_undergoes_hypnosis


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Post by: klaasend on August 29, 2009, 09:40:07 AM
New search for Haleigh may come today

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090829/ARTICLES/908291003/1002?Title=New-search-for-Haleigh-may-come-today

Snipped from the article above:

Quote
Croslin-Cummings did not respond to interview requests made Friday through her attorney, a friend and a family member. Without the knowledge or approval of her attorney or the Sheriff's Office, she reportedly asked Miller, the director of EquuSearch, to help her clear her name.


Does that mean Misty's attorney is a friend and a family member?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 29, 2009, 09:42:12 AM
i'm gonna be an angry monkey if all this 'single red rose' stuff turns out to be bs and by cowinkey-dink Tim and them just happened to find a fake flower. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 09:42:21 AM
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090828/ARTICLES/908289905/1003/NEWS04?Title=New-search-for-Haleigh-may-come-Saturday             With a pic of the rose.

I wonder if they can get fingerprints or any DNA on the plastic rose to see where it came from..... ::MonkeyTongue::
Probably       When asked “is there anything else you can remember, in particular, is there anywhere police should be looking”, she paused and said “there’s a place that needs to be searched again.” She then gave us specific directions and said “look in the forest for a single red rose”. (Why would she tell them this?)
  Why would she ask for  poly-when all she does is lie- ::MonkeyConfused::
That's what I keep asking myself  ::MonkeyConfused::  And why fight hypnosis when you ask to be put under?  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 09:42:54 AM
i'm gonna be an angry monkey if all this 'single red rose' stuff turns out to be bs and by cowinkey-dink Tim and them just happened to find a fake flower. 
I have a strange feeling this is a set up.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 29, 2009, 09:43:00 AM
I am not a hypnotist but even I can tell that she is faking it in this video..she has like a half azzed grin on her face when first starting imo....grrrrr...she is going down! she really thinks/thought that she could outsmart everyone doing these interviews...jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Leroy on August 29, 2009, 09:43:48 AM
Is anyone still following the Twitter Trimm posted?

This just came up on it...

Misty Cummings Interviews EXCLUSIVE
By Steph
I will uploading the interviews I shot this week with Misty Cummings in their entirety.  See what happened before the interview started and what happened after they were over…great behind the scene footage!!!!!  Stand By


http://twitter.com/RadioNewz

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/29/misty-cummings-interviews-exclusive/



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 29, 2009, 09:43:52 AM
i'm gonna be an angry monkey if all this 'single red rose' stuff turns out to be bs and by cowinkey-dink Tim and them just happened to find a fake flower. 
I have a strange feeling this is a set up.

me too Rosie!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 09:44:56 AM
It sounds like Misty's attorney is a friend and family member, wonder if he is a member of Misty or Ron's family?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 29, 2009, 09:48:02 AM
i'm gonna be an angry monkey if all this 'single red rose' stuff turns out to be bs and by cowinkey-dink Tim and them just happened to find a fake flower. 
I have a strange feeling this is a set up.
i as well...i am thankfull that they are willing to look there even if they believe she is lying, but i hate to think of the time being wasted.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 09:53:22 AM
I am not a hypnotist but even I can tell that she is faking it in this video..she has like a half azzed grin on her face when first starting imo....grrrrr...she is going down! she really thinks/thought that she could outsmart everyone doing these interviews...jmo
How cute you look  ::MonkeyCool::   It makes no sense to ask to have this done, and then not cooperate. And I'm sure these tests that were given to her did not come cheap  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 09:54:11 AM
Is anyone still following the Twitter Trimm posted?

This just came up on it...

Misty Cummings Interviews EXCLUSIVE
By Steph
I will uploading the interviews I shot this week with Misty Cummings in their entirety.  See what happened before the interview started and what happened after they were over…great behind the scene footage!!!!!  Stand By


http://twitter.com/RadioNewz

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/29/misty-cummings-interviews-exclusive/


  ::MonkeyEek::  Thanks Leroy


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 29, 2009, 10:09:07 AM
So is Tim suppose to search the rose area tommorrow??? Then will they disclose the area????...I tell you what ...after her pointing the finger to her brother and then telling this rose story then LE taking him in for questioning I think that they are trying to set up her brother for whatever reason but he may go in there and tell life long stories about Misty ,,,I think that this girl is C_R_A_Z_Y !!!!

I don't know if she's crazy or not, but her grammar makes the Baby Jesus cry.
I am wondering if it is really that bad ...can't really see her making it to 7th grade that way .....we need to compare her spelling to the myspace grammar and her signature to the marriage liscense one because I am thinking that she may be trying to act dumber than she is and also she is pulling out the I am only 17 years old crap JMO

I don't know...I really haven't been following this case and just turned on Nancy Grace tonight randomly. So, for what it's worth, I'm coming into this without any agenda or prejudices. But she strikes me as a potentially pretty, very manipulative girl who has never had any advantage in life at all. I mean, what 17-year-old shacks up with a boyfriend and his children in a trailer? (When I was 17 I was playing violin in the high school orchestra and planning for college). I'm not saying she's innocent (far from it, in my opinion). I'm just saying I genuinely believe she's low-class and disadvantaged...but maybe that's what she wants me to believe!

Reportedly, she only has a 4th grade education.  That says a lot to me.  Why??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 29, 2009, 10:09:24 AM
New search for Haleigh may come today

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090829/ARTICLES/908291003/1002?Title=New-search-for-Haleigh-may-come-today

Snipped from the article above:

Quote
Croslin-Cummings did not respond to interview requests made Friday through her attorney, a friend and a family member. Without the knowledge or approval of her attorney or the Sheriff's Office, she reportedly asked Miller, the director of EquuSearch, to help her clear her name.


Does that mean Misty's attorney is a friend and a family member?


Thats what it reads like klaasend.  I will see if I run across anything indicating such.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 29, 2009, 10:09:33 AM
I am not a hypnotist but even I can tell that she is faking it in this video..she has like a half azzed grin on her face when first starting imo....grrrrr...she is going down! she really thinks/thought that she could outsmart everyone doing these interviews...jmo
How cute you look  ::MonkeyCool::   It makes no sense to ask to have this done, and then not cooperate. And I'm sure these tests that were given to her did not come cheap  ::MonkeyNoNo::

do you mean how cute luci is? tee hee! yes, I love her...grama monkey brought her over and I fell in love and had Brandi fix me up...thanks!

I am sure that these tests were not  cheap either...and Tim is paying for it right or so I thought I read or heard that...the LE should pick up the tab in my opinion...this is almost like the first break or the unraveling of this case if you ask me and LE should be grateful to Tim that he has been such a big help...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 29, 2009, 10:12:03 AM
"No, I don't think we consider her a suspect," Bowling said. "We factually know that she is consistently inconsistent and we need some factual exactness about her activities the night before Haleigh disappeared until the morning when she was reported missing."

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090829/ARTICLES/908291003/1002?Title=New-search-for-Haleigh-may-come-today


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 29, 2009, 10:18:59 AM
There is a certain body language that Misty uses during her interviews where she is being questioned on the facts.  That body language is when she gazes upward and pauses before giving an answer.  That says to me that she is searching for a manufactured answer, or trying to remember what it is that the phony story line is.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: alagary on August 29, 2009, 10:21:25 AM
Does that mean Misty's attorney is a friend and a family member?


only if adopted  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 10:23:10 AM
There is a certain body language that Misty uses during her interviews where she is being questioned on the facts.  That body language is when she gazes upward and pauses before giving an answer.  That says to me that she is searching for a manufactured answer, or trying to remember what it is that the phony story line is.
I also wondered who else was in the room, meaning was Ron in the room?  That hog pen area that Teresa took Cobra to, on another board they are saying that it is close to this Hoot Owl area, does anyone know if that is true?  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 29, 2009, 10:32:08 AM
Does that mean Misty's attorney is a friend and a family member?


only if adopted  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyDevil::  What if Misty's cousin married a friend of hers?  Then wouldn't the cousins husband/wife be both a friend and a family member? ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on August 29, 2009, 10:46:03 AM
Is anyone still following the Twitter Trimm posted?

This just came up on it...

Misty Cummings Interviews EXCLUSIVE
By Steph
I will uploading the interviews I shot this week with Misty Cummings in their entirety.  See what happened before the interview started and what happened after they were over…great behind the scene footage!!!!!  Stand By


http://twitter.com/RadioNewz

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/29/misty-cummings-interviews-exclusive/



Thanks Leroy!

Great to see you Leroy, btw.... ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on August 29, 2009, 10:46:51 AM
Does that mean Misty's attorney is a friend and a family member?


only if adopted  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyDevil::  What if Misty's cousin married a friend of hers?  Then wouldn't the cousins husband/wife be both a friend and a family member? ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 29, 2009, 10:59:56 AM
There is a certain body language that Misty uses during her interviews where she is being questioned on the facts.  That body language is when she gazes upward and pauses before giving an answer.  That says to me that she is searching for a manufactured answer, or trying to remember what it is that the phony story line is.
I also wondered who else was in the room, meaning was Ron in the room?  That hog pen area that Teresa took Cobra to, on another board they are saying that it is close to this Hoot Owl area, does anyone know if that is true?  ::MonkeyEek::
I thought the hog pen was supposedly right behind 202 Green.  Do I have it wrong?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 29, 2009, 12:00:00 PM
(http://www.firstcoastnews.com/genthumb.ashx?e=3&h=240&w=320&i=/assetpool/images/090815045359_081509_HaLeigh%20Cummings2.jpg)


(Putnam County)- A search is underway this morning for clues to Haleigh Cummings' disappearance.

EquuSearch and Putnam County officials are out again after a comment by Misty Cummings revealed a possible new detail. According to the Gainesville Sun, Misty mentioned something about a fake rose and that was enough for EquuSearch to begin a new hunt for clues.

First Coast News has learned that EquuSearch is leading the operation and Putnam County officials are there to make sure everything is ok.

(snipped)

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=144137&catid=3



Good morning Monkeys.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 12:03:20 PM
There is a certain body language that Misty uses during her interviews where she is being questioned on the facts.  That body language is when she gazes upward and pauses before giving an answer.  That says to me that she is searching for a manufactured answer, or trying to remember what it is that the phony story line is.
I also wondered who else was in the room, meaning was Ron in the room?  That hog pen area that Teresa took Cobra to, on another board they are saying that it is close to this Hoot Owl area, does anyone know if that is true?  ::MonkeyEek::
I thought the hog pen was supposedly right behind 202 Green.  Do I have it wrong?
I'm going about what they are talking about in the rumor thread, you could be right, at this point in time I'm so confused with all these areas  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: blstarke on August 29, 2009, 12:06:12 PM
Does anyone remember where it was that NayNay was suppose to have gotten her car stuck and had to have someone come pull it out?
Her keys were found on the San Mateo search


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 29, 2009, 12:18:05 PM
Is anyone still following the Twitter Trimm posted?

This just came up on it...

Misty Cummings Interviews EXCLUSIVE
By Steph
I will uploading the interviews I shot this week with Misty Cummings in their entirety.  See what happened before the interview started and what happened after they were over…great behind the scene footage!!!!!  Stand By


http://twitter.com/RadioNewz

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/08/29/misty-cummings-interviews-exclusive/


  ::MonkeyEek::  Thanks Leroy

Yes,the twitter thing is pretty cool.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 29, 2009, 12:20:42 PM
Does that mean Misty's attorney is a friend and a family member?


only if adopted  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyDevil::  What if Misty's cousin married a friend of hers?  Then wouldn't the cousins husband/wife be both a friend and a family member? ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 12:22:57 PM
Does anyone remember where it was that NayNay was suppose to have gotten her car stuck and had to have someone come pull it out?
Her keys were found on the San Mateo search
How far away is that area from this area that will be searched?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 29, 2009, 12:32:00 PM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/orange_news/082909_Searchers_look_for_Haleigh_and_Tracy

Searchers look for
Haleigh and Tracy

Updated: Saturday, 29 Aug 2009, 11:57 AM EDT
Published : Saturday, 29 Aug 2009, 11:57 AM EDT

ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - Searches are underway for two of Florida’s missing people.

A team of specialized search and rescue volunteers are in Ocoee this weekend looking for clues into the disappearance of Tracy Ocasio. The 27-year-old woman went missing in May after leaving the Tap Room bar in Metrowest with James Hataway, a person of interest in her disappearance.

The Florida-3 Airboat Search and Rescue group is made up of trained search and rescue personnel. The group recently conducted a dual search for both Tracy Ocasio and Jennifer Kesse, who has been missing since 2006 from her condo near the Mall at Millenia.

Earlier this week, Ocoee Police revealed they found a black boot in the wood that they think might have belonged to Ocasio. Police also received a tip about a body in freezer bags in an abandoned animal shelter in Winter Garden, but the medical examiner determined it was just animal bones.

Members of Equusearch, the Texas-based search team, are once again searching an area near the home of Ronald Cummings, whose 4-year-old daughter Haleigh Cummings vanished from the family’s trailer in March.

Under hypnosis, Ronald Cumming’s 17-year-old wife Misty Croslin Cummings told searchers to look for Haleigh near a rose left in an undisclosed area in Putnam County.

Based on that tip, Equusearch on Saturday headed back out to Satsuma to search for leads in the case.

Fox 35 has crews at both search locations. Watch FOx 35 News at 7 and 10 for more on these developing stories.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 12:37:56 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?mid=1231220760          It is the video that is titled Hank Croslin and his wife, very interesting.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: can on August 29, 2009, 12:43:33 PM
So is Tim suppose to search the rose area tommorrow??? Then will they disclose the area????...I tell you what ...after her pointing the finger to her brother and then telling this rose story then LE taking him in for questioning I think that they are trying to set up her brother for whatever reason but he may go in there and tell life long stories about Misty ,,,I think that this girl is C_R_A_Z_Y !!!!

I don't know if she's crazy or not, but her grammar makes the Baby Jesus cry.
I am wondering if it is really that bad ...can't really see her making it to 7th grade that way .....we need to compare her spelling to the myspace grammar and her signature to the marriage liscense one because I am thinking that she may be trying to act dumber than she is and also she is pulling out the I am only 17 years old crap JMO

I don't know...I really haven't been following this case and just turned on Nancy Grace tonight randomly. So, for what it's worth, I'm coming into this without any agenda or prejudices. But she strikes me as a potentially pretty, very manipulative girl who has never had any advantage in life at all. I mean, what 17-year-old shacks up with a boyfriend and his children in a trailer? (When I was 17 I was playing violin in the high school orchestra and planning for college). I'm not saying she's innocent (far from it, in my opinion). I'm just saying I genuinely believe she's low-class and disadvantaged...but maybe that's what she wants me to believe!

Reportedly, she only has a 4th grade education.  That says a lot to me.  Why??
Good afternoon Strayze. 
Isn't that illegal in and of itself?!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 29, 2009, 01:01:43 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?mid=1231220760          It is the video that is titled Hank Croslin and his wife, very interesting.

That is...........wonder why Tim M would go by his house and ask him to drop the charges against Ron ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 01:25:34 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?mid=1231220760          It is the video that is titled Hank Croslin and his wife, very interesting.

That is...........wonder why Tim M would go by his house and ask him to drop the charges against Ron ::MonkeyEek::
I'm really surprised by that, I don't know  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 29, 2009, 01:25:42 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?mid=1231220760          It is the video that is titled Hank Croslin and his wife, very interesting.

That is...........wonder why Tim M would go by his house and ask him to drop the charges against Ron ::MonkeyEek::
I do to IM, something is strange about this entire thing, it seems like to me that this was a ruse set up by Misty in order for her to throw her brother under the bus because he wouldnt drop those charges against Ronald,   I wish we knew if Tim asked him about it before she took these tests or after, hmmmmm    this is very fishy....   someone is gonna hang themselves soon.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 29, 2009, 01:27:50 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?mid=1231220760          It is the video that is titled Hank Croslin and his wife, very interesting.

That is...........wonder why Tim M would go by his house and ask him to drop the charges against Ron ::MonkeyEek::
I do to IM, something is strange about this entire thing, it seems like to me that this was a ruse set up by Misty in order for her to throw her brother under the bus because he wouldnt drop those charges against Ronald,   I wish we knew if Tim asked him about it before she took these tests or after, hmmmmm    this is very fishy....   someone is gonna hang themselves soon.

I agree about the set up..............I'm just hoping there is some resolution and this is not some wild goose chase.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 29, 2009, 01:28:31 PM
So is Tim suppose to search the rose area tommorrow??? Then will they disclose the area????...I tell you what ...after her pointing the finger to her brother and then telling this rose story then LE taking him in for questioning I think that they are trying to set up her brother for whatever reason but he may go in there and tell life long stories about Misty ,,,I think that this girl is C_R_A_Z_Y !!!!

I don't know if she's crazy or not, but her grammar makes the Baby Jesus cry.
I am wondering if it is really that bad ...can't really see her making it to 7th grade that way .....we need to compare her spelling to the myspace grammar and her signature to the marriage liscense one because I am thinking that she may be trying to act dumber than she is and also she is pulling out the I am only 17 years old crap JMO

I don't know...I really haven't been following this case and just turned on Nancy Grace tonight randomly. So, for what it's worth, I'm coming into this without any agenda or prejudices. But she strikes me as a potentially pretty, very manipulative girl who has never had any advantage in life at all. I mean, what 17-year-old shacks up with a boyfriend and his children in a trailer? (When I was 17 I was playing violin in the high school orchestra and planning for college). I'm not saying she's innocent (far from it, in my opinion). I'm just saying I genuinely believe she's low-class and disadvantaged...but maybe that's what she wants me to believe!

Reportedly, she only has a 4th grade education.  That says a lot to me.  Why??
Good afternoon Strayze. 
Isn't that illegal in and of itself?!
Good afternoon.  Illegal, yes.  But in backwoods areas, not at all uncommon.  It is a situation where remedial resources may not be available, or the public schools cannot accommodate the mentally challenged, even though there are state and federal laws on this.  Also, there is pressure on kids to work (frequently farm work). despite whatever the law is.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 29, 2009, 01:29:01 PM
Does anyone remember where it was that NayNay was suppose to have gotten her car stuck and had to have someone come pull it out?
Her keys were found on the San Mateo search
wonder how far this area is from where they are searching.?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 29, 2009, 01:31:35 PM
O/T

Dead body found in Sanford


Updated: Saturday, 29 Aug 2009, 10:34 AM EDT
Published : Saturday, 29 Aug 2009, 10:34 AM EDT

SANFORD, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - Sanford Police are investigating a dead body found floating in Lake Monroe early Saturday.

The body was discovered in the lake off of French St and 17/92 in downtown Sanford at around 8 a.m.

Lt. Mike Horan said police established a crime scene and pulled the body out of the water with the help of the Sanford Police Department.

It appears the body is that of a white male, according to witnesses at the scene.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/seminole_news/082909_Dead_body_found_in_Sanford


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 29, 2009, 01:31:59 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?mid=1231220760          It is the video that is titled Hank Croslin and his wife, very interesting.

That is...........wonder why Tim M would go by his house and ask him to drop the charges against Ron ::MonkeyEek::
I do to IM, something is strange about this entire thing, it seems like to me that this was a ruse set up by Misty in order for her to throw her brother under the bus because he wouldnt drop those charges against Ronald,   I wish we knew if Tim asked him about it before she took these tests or after, hmmmmm    this is very fishy....   someone is gonna hang themselves soon.

I agree about the set up..............I'm just hoping there is some resolution and this is not some wild goose chase.
I dont think its a set up, but I think there is more to this story of mwhy Misty is setting her brother up like this, I cant help but wonder if they will find something in this area, maybe not Haleigh, but something that will incriminate her brother even more,


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 01:32:23 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?mid=1231220760          It is the video that is titled Hank Croslin and his wife, very interesting.

That is...........wonder why Tim M would go by his house and ask him to drop the charges against Ron ::MonkeyEek::
I do to IM, something is strange about this entire thing, it seems like to me that this was a ruse set up by Misty in order for her to throw her brother under the bus because he wouldnt drop those charges against Ronald,   I wish we knew if Tim asked him about it before she took these tests or after, hmmmmm    this is very fishy....   someone is gonna hang themselves soon.
I totally agree, and I just hope that this doesn't end in a violent manner. Can you just imagine the tension and hatred right now going on  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 29, 2009, 01:33:26 PM
Searchers look for Haleigh and Tracy

Updated: Saturday, 29 Aug 2009, 11:57 AM EDT
Published : Saturday, 29 Aug 2009, 11:57 AM EDT

ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - Searches are underway for two of Florida’s missing people.

A team of specialized search and rescue volunteers are in Ocoee this weekend looking for clues into the disappearance of Tracy Ocasio. The 27-year-old woman went missing in May after leaving the Tap Room bar in Metrowest with James Hataway, a person of interest in her disappearance.

The Florida-3 Airboat Search and Rescue group is made up of trained search and rescue personnel. The group recently conducted a dual search for both Tracy Ocasio and Jennifer Kesse, who has been missing since 2006 from her condo near the Mall at Millenia.

Earlier this week, Ocoee Police revealed they found a black boot in the wood that they think might have belonged to Ocasio. Police also received a tip about a body in freezer bags in an abandoned animal shelter in Winter Garden, but the medical examiner determined it was just animal bones.

Members of Equusearch, the Texas-based search team, are once again searching an area near the home of Ronald Cummings, whose 4-year-old daughter Haleigh Cummings vanished from the family’s trailer in March.

Under hypnosis, Ronald Cumming’s 17-year-old wife Misty Croslin Cummings told searchers to look for Haleigh near a rose left in an undisclosed area in Putnam County.

Based on that tip, Equusearch on Saturday headed back out to Satsuma to search for leads in the case.

Fox 35 has crews at both search locations. Watch FOx 35 News at 7 and 10 for more on these developing stories.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/orange_news/082909_Searchers_look_for_Haleigh_and_Tracy


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 29, 2009, 01:35:15 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?mid=1231220760          It is the video that is titled Hank Croslin and his wife, very interesting.

That is...........wonder why Tim M would go by his house and ask him to drop the charges against Ron ::MonkeyEek::
I do to IM, something is strange about this entire thing, it seems like to me that this was a ruse set up by Misty in order for her to throw her brother under the bus because he wouldnt drop those charges against Ronald,   I wish we knew if Tim asked him about it before she took these tests or after, hmmmmm    this is very fishy....   someone is gonna hang themselves soon.

I agree about the set up..............I'm just hoping there is some resolution and this is not some wild goose chase.

Misty is one spiteful (st)itch.  Unprincipled and materialistic to boot.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 01:40:12 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?mid=1231220760          It is the video that is titled Hank Croslin and his wife, very interesting.

That is...........wonder why Tim M would go by his house and ask him to drop the charges against Ron ::MonkeyEek::
I do to IM, something is strange about this entire thing, it seems like to me that this was a ruse set up by Misty in order for her to throw her brother under the bus because he wouldnt drop those charges against Ronald,   I wish we knew if Tim asked him about it before she took these tests or after, hmmmmm    this is very fishy....   someone is gonna hang themselves soon.

I agree about the set up..............I'm just hoping there is some resolution and this is not some wild goose chase.

Misty is one spiteful (st)itch.  Unprincipled and materialistic to boot.
I will have to agree with you. And one other thing, that I don't want anyone to take the wrong way, because it is a terrible and serious topic. But I really wonder if Misty was abused by any family member? Is she just saying this for sympathy, or to get family members in trouble. It would be horrific either way, if it really happened, or she is making it all up. I just don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on August 29, 2009, 01:41:57 PM
This may have already been said, but I think with Misty all of a sudden claiming "dreams", and dropping hints about a rose, that Haleigh may very well be where she says. Am thinking that her and Ronald think enough time has gone by that she will be completely decomposed, like Caylee, and now it's time to lead LE to her body.

I hope they find her soon!  ::MonkeyAngel::  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 01:43:53 PM
This may have already been said, but I think with Misty all of a sudden claiming "dreams", and dropping hints about a rose, that Haleigh may very well be where she says. Am thinking that her and Ronald think enough time has gone by that she will be completely decomposed, like Caylee, and now it's time to lead LE to her body.

I hope they find her soon!  ::MonkeyAngel::  ::MonkeyAngel::
Could be, or she has been spending time on WS reading all about visions and dreams in this case, and yes, a rose comes up   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 29, 2009, 01:44:43 PM
Man, this is really strange about this rose, for it to be there when the LE went to look for it means that Misty had to have been to this area before, she knew for a fact it was there, and then so why would a rose out in the middle of the woods be there if not to mark something, and why would she not tell LE about this place at the beginning of all this, and then all of a sudden tell it now, I think we are in for a surprise on this search, I believe this rose has been at this location to mark something that happened possible even before Haleigh dissapeared and both Misty and her brother knows why its there, then after the fight with her brother and he refusing to drop the charges against Ronald , Misty has told about this place to pay him back, I wouldnt be surprised if they find something in this area that does put the brother in jail, I wouldnt be surprised if it just might be a different child or baby, Mist said it was contributed to Haleigh only becaus she knew if she said that they would search........something is gonna happen I think and something more than just the Haleigh case is about to be revealed..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 29, 2009, 01:45:42 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?mid=1231220760          It is the video that is titled Hank Croslin and his wife, very interesting.

That is...........wonder why Tim M would go by his house and ask him to drop the charges against Ron ::MonkeyEek::
I do to IM, something is strange about this entire thing, it seems like to me that this was a ruse set up by Misty in order for her to throw her brother under the bus because he wouldnt drop those charges against Ronald,   I wish we knew if Tim asked him about it before she took these tests or after, hmmmmm    this is very fishy....   someone is gonna hang themselves soon.

I agree about the set up..............I'm just hoping there is some resolution and this is not some wild goose chase.

Misty is one spiteful (st)itch.  Unprincipled and materialistic to boot.
I will have to agree with you. And one other thing, that I don't want anyone to take the wrong way, because it is a terrible and serious topic. But I really wonder if Misty was abused by any family member? Is she just saying this for sympathy, or to get family members in trouble. It would be horrific either way, if it really happened, or she is making it all up. I just don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth.

I agree, she has now stated that she has been abused by 3 different people, Jeremy Miller (serving time fo it), cousin Joe and her brother...............just seems odd to me  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 29, 2009, 01:45:42 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?mid=1231220760          It is the video that is titled Hank Croslin and his wife, very interesting.

That is...........wonder why Tim M would go by his house and ask him to drop the charges against Ron ::MonkeyEek::
I do to IM, something is strange about this entire thing, it seems like to me that this was a ruse set up by Misty in order for her to throw her brother under the bus because he wouldnt drop those charges against Ronald,   I wish we knew if Tim asked him about it before she took these tests or after, hmmmmm    this is very fishy....   someone is gonna hang themselves soon.

I agree about the set up..............I'm just hoping there is some resolution and this is not some wild goose chase.

Misty is one spiteful (st)itch.  Unprincipled and materialistic to boot.
I will have to agree with you. And one other thing, that I don't want anyone to take the wrong way, because it is a terrible and serious topic. But I really wonder if Misty was abused by any family member? Is she just saying this for sympathy, or to get family members in trouble. It would be horrific either way, if it really happened, or she is making it all up. I just don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth.

Nor do I. She is manipulating, histrionic or both.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 29, 2009, 01:48:12 PM
This may have already been said, but I think with Misty all of a sudden claiming "dreams", and dropping hints about a rose, that Haleigh may very well be where she says. Am thinking that her and Ronald think enough time has gone by that she will be completely decomposed, like Caylee, and now it's time to lead LE to her body.

I hope they find her soon!  ::MonkeyAngel::  ::MonkeyAngel::

I have been wondering that too Gizzie.............after all this time I'd think there would be no evidence  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Haleigh deserved so much better and now IMO they need to focus on getting Jr out of there before something bad happens to him, he obviously shouldn't be in that home with all the tension and stress now.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 29, 2009, 01:48:31 PM
Pretty soon we may start hearing from Misty stories on Ronald, that is if it serves her purpose.  And to thinks she wants a baby from him.  No child should be subjected to this.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 29, 2009, 01:48:56 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?mid=1231220760          It is the video that is titled Hank Croslin and his wife, very interesting.

That is...........wonder why Tim M would go by his house and ask him to drop the charges against Ron ::MonkeyEek::
I'm really surprised by that, I don't know  ::MonkeyConfused::

Thank you for the link no rose.   ::MonkeyAngel::  Very interesting.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 29, 2009, 01:53:41 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/amberalerts/news-article.aspx?storyid=144115&catid=295

Haleigh's Old Home Has New Tenant
 Jessica Clark  Taren Reed     Created: 8/28/2009 8:01:38 PM    Updated: 8/28/2009 8:21:16 PM


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 29, 2009, 02:04:28 PM
@Geraniums1 .......8am and finally found the staging area for today's search for HaLeigh! I'm tired and have photos for later posting.
less than 20 seconds ago from web

http://twitter.com/RadioNewz


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 02:04:35 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/amberalerts/news-article.aspx?storyid=144115&catid=295

Haleigh's Old Home Has New Tenant
 Jessica Clark  Taren Reed     Created: 8/28/2009 8:01:38 PM    Updated: 8/28/2009 8:21:16 PM
I couldn't live there.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 29, 2009, 02:05:19 PM
Searchers look for Haleigh and Tracy

Updated: Saturday, 29 Aug 2009, 11:57 AM EDT
Published : Saturday, 29 Aug 2009, 11:57 AM EDT

ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - Searches are underway for two of Florida’s missing people.

A team of specialized search and rescue volunteers are in Ocoee this weekend looking for clues into the disappearance of Tracy Ocasio. The 27-year-old woman went missing in May after leaving the Tap Room bar in Metrowest with James Hataway, a person of interest in her disappearance.

The Florida-3 Airboat Search and Rescue group is made up of trained search and rescue personnel. The group recently conducted a dual search for both Tracy Ocasio and Jennifer Kesse, who has been missing since 2006 from her condo near the Mall at Millenia.

Earlier this week, Ocoee Police revealed they found a black boot in the wood that they think might have belonged to Ocasio. Police also received a tip about a body in freezer bags in an abandoned animal shelter in Winter Garden, but the medical examiner determined it was just animal bones.

Members of Equusearch, the Texas-based search team, are once again searching an area near the home of Ronald Cummings, whose 4-year-old daughter Haleigh Cummings vanished from the family’s trailer in March.

Under hypnosis, Ronald Cumming’s 17-year-old wife Misty Croslin Cummings told searchers to look for Haleigh near a rose left in an undisclosed area in Putnam County.

Based on that tip, Equusearch on Saturday headed back out to Satsuma to search for leads in the case.

Fox 35 has crews at both search locations. Watch FOx 35 News at 7 and 10 for more on these developing stories.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/orange_news/082909_Searchers_look_for_Haleigh_and_Tracy

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image12.png)

The Florida-3 Airboat Search and Rescue group is apparently based in Tampa.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 29, 2009, 02:06:10 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/amberalerts/news-article.aspx?storyid=144115&catid=295

Haleigh's Old Home Has New Tenant
 Jessica Clark  Taren Reed     Created: 8/28/2009 8:01:38 PM    Updated: 8/28/2009 8:21:16 PM
I couldn't live there.

Nor could I, no rose.  It would be too spooky for me.  And too sad, a constant reminder.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 29, 2009, 02:07:56 PM
 ::MonkeyEek::


Stole from Hobbit's site........sorry Hobbit ::MonkeyTongue::

Ger says staging area is Murphey's Conservatory on Buffalo Bluff Road. Where they are searching is off three sisters road. LE blocking entrance into the area at Tyler.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 02:09:29 PM
Man, this is really strange about this rose, for it to be there when the LE went to look for it means that Misty had to have been to this area before, she knew for a fact it was there, and then so why would a rose out in the middle of the woods be there if not to mark something, and why would she not tell LE about this place at the beginning of all this, and then all of a sudden tell it now, I think we are in for a surprise on this search, I believe this rose has been at this location to mark something that happened possible even before Haleigh dissapeared and both Misty and her brother knows why its there, then after the fight with her brother and he refusing to drop the charges against Ronald , Misty has told about this place to pay him back, I wouldnt be surprised if they find something in this area that does put the brother in jail, I wouldnt be surprised if it just might be a different child or baby, Mist said it was contributed to Haleigh only becaus she knew if she said that they would search........something is gonna happen I think and something more than just the Haleigh case is about to be revealed..
I had to read your post a couple times, how interesting, I don't know what to say. But that would be something if there would be a different child or baby there, or even an adult. Or somekind of evidence  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 29, 2009, 02:10:17 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/amberalerts/news-article.aspx?storyid=144115&catid=295

Haleigh's Old Home Has New Tenant
 Jessica Clark  Taren Reed     Created: 8/28/2009 8:01:38 PM    Updated: 8/28/2009 8:21:16 PM
I couldn't live there.

Nor could I, no rose.  It would be too spooky for me.  And too sad, a constant reminder.

Me either. I remember the man who bought Laci Peterson's house and thought I couldn't live there either, in an interview with the news he told the reporter that his dog would NOT even enter the master bedroom ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 29, 2009, 02:11:23 PM
New search for Haleigh may come today

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090829/ARTICLES/908291003/1002?Title=New-search-for-Haleigh-may-come-today

Snipped from the article above:

Quote
Croslin-Cummings did not respond to interview requests made Friday through her attorney, a friend and a family member. Without the knowledge or approval of her attorney or the Sheriff's Office, she reportedly asked Miller, the director of EquuSearch, to help her clear her name.


Does that mean Misty's attorney is a friend and a family member?


I read this sentence aloud to my husband and he sees it as requests for interviews were made through Misty's attorney, through a friend and through a family member. Requests made through three different people.

It is so poorly worded, there is no way to know what the author meant.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 29, 2009, 02:12:32 PM
Man, this is really strange about this rose, for it to be there when the LE went to look for it means that Misty had to have been to this area before, she knew for a fact it was there, and then so why would a rose out in the middle of the woods be there if not to mark something, and why would she not tell LE about this place at the beginning of all this, and then all of a sudden tell it now, I think we are in for a surprise on this search, I believe this rose has been at this location to mark something that happened possible even before Haleigh dissapeared and both Misty and her brother knows why its there, then after the fight with her brother and he refusing to drop the charges against Ronald , Misty has told about this place to pay him back, I wouldnt be surprised if they find something in this area that does put the brother in jail, I wouldnt be surprised if it just might be a different child or baby, Mist said it was contributed to Haleigh only becaus she knew if she said that they would search........something is gonna happen I think and something more than just the Haleigh case is about to be revealed..
I had to read your post a couple times, how interesting, I don't know what to say. But that would be something if there would be a different child or baby there, or even an adult. Or somekind of evidence  ::MonkeyEek::
There has to be a reason for the rose........it didnt just fall there and wasnt Misty's family getting ready to move somewhere now, was her brother Hanl moving with them, hmmmmmm.....something is definaitly up with all this, its gonna come out now.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 29, 2009, 02:15:37 PM
More info on The Florida-3 Airboat Search and Rescue group:

At the request of Texas EquuSearch, FL-3 Airboat Search and Rescue assisted in the Labor Day weekend search for Caylee Anthony. (Sept. 2, 2008)

http://www.free-press-release.com/news/200809/1220355833.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 29, 2009, 02:15:38 PM
::MonkeyEek::


Stole from Hobbit's site........sorry Hobbit ::MonkeyTongue::

Ger says staging area is Murphey's Conservatory on Buffalo Bluff Road. Where they are searching is off three sisters road. LE blocking entrance into the area at Tyler.
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::   and this area I have been too, it is close to where her other brother lived I think, this is just getting wierder and wierder, and they are still in the area of where Haleigh lived, and is this the area the rose was found at?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 29, 2009, 02:20:18 PM
::MonkeyEek::


Stole from Hobbit's site........sorry Hobbit ::MonkeyTongue::

Ger says staging area is Murphey's Conservatory on Buffalo Bluff Road. Where they are searching is off three sisters road. LE blocking entrance into the area at Tyler.
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::   and this area I have been too, it is close to where her other brother lived I think, this is just getting wierder and wierder, and they are still in the area of where Haleigh lived, and is this the area the rose was found at?

stole this too:


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 29, 2009, 02:23:19 PM
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Buffalo+Bluff+Rd,+Putnam,+Florida+32189&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=33.435463,56.337891&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FVJFwwEdk9gh-w&split=0&ll=29.573266,-81.671569&spn=0.002239,0.005472&t=h&z=18




google map of area...........I have to run to a football game, so y'all stay on top of it and fill me in later plzzzzzz. TIA ::MonkeyAngel::

God please help bring Haleigh home ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 29, 2009, 02:24:24 PM
::MonkeyEek::


Stole from Hobbit's site........sorry Hobbit ::MonkeyTongue::

Ger says staging area is Murphey's Conservatory on Buffalo Bluff Road. Where they are searching is off three sisters road. LE blocking entrance into the area at Tyler.
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::   and this area I have been too, it is close to where her other brother lived I think, this is just getting wierder and wierder, and they are still in the area of where Haleigh lived, and is this the area the rose was found at?

stole this too:
yes, this area is in front of where Haleigh lived and I turned onto this marea when I got lost the first time I went to Satsuma, very weird that they are searching there again, hmmmm,


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 29, 2009, 02:26:41 PM
If anyone is following the tweets at http://twitter.com/RadioNewz#/RadioNewz

Here is a refresher map:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image14-1.png)

They keep mentioning 3 sisters road .. I am guessing they mean Seven Sisters Drive.

Thoughts on that, anyone?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 29, 2009, 02:27:47 PM
If anyone is following the tweets at http://twitter.com/RadioNewz#/RadioNewz

Here is a refresher map:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image14-1.png)

They keep mentioning 3 sisters road .. I am guessing they mean Seven Sisters Drive.

Thoughts on that, anyone?

Thanks Brandi~I had the link, but have no clue how to post the picture from it


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 29, 2009, 02:30:29 PM
Before I run, my heart is breaking for Crystal and Marie right now ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 29, 2009, 02:32:41 PM
If anyone is following the tweets at http://twitter.com/RadioNewz#/RadioNewz

Here is a refresher map:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image14-1.png)

They keep mentioning 3 sisters road .. I am guessing they mean Seven Sisters Drive.

Thoughts on that, anyone?

Thanks Brandi~I had the link, but have no clue how to post the picture from it

NP .. FYI though, I capture the image, crop or resize it then upload it to my photobucket account, then link to that.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 29, 2009, 02:37:23 PM
If anyone is following the tweets at http://twitter.com/RadioNewz#/RadioNewz

Here is a refresher map:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image14-1.png)

They keep mentioning 3 sisters road .. I am guessing they mean Seven Sisters Drive.

Thoughts on that, anyone?

I ran into the same problem.  I couldn't find a 3 sisters road.  So I'm guessing it is Seven Sisters Drive.
I could see where Buffalo Bluff Road & Tyler meet, so I agree with you.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 29, 2009, 02:42:11 PM
If anyone is following the tweets at http://twitter.com/RadioNewz#/RadioNewz

Here is a refresher map:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image14-1.png)

They keep mentioning 3 sisters road .. I am guessing they mean Seven Sisters Drive.

Thoughts on that, anyone?

I ran into the same problem.  I couldn't find a 3 sisters road.  So I'm guessing it is Seven Sisters Drive.
I could see where Buffalo Bluff Road & Tyler meet, so I agree with you.
Yes, that is where they are talking about....its the one in front of Haleighs last place she lived.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 29, 2009, 02:52:05 PM
If anyone is following the tweets at http://twitter.com/RadioNewz#/RadioNewz

Here is a refresher map:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image14-1.png)

They keep mentioning 3 sisters road .. I am guessing they mean Seven Sisters Drive.

Thoughts on that, anyone?

I ran into the same problem.  I couldn't find a 3 sisters road.  So I'm guessing it is Seven Sisters Drive.
I could see where Buffalo Bluff Road & Tyler meet, so I agree with you.
Yes, that is where they are talking about....its the one in front of Haleighs last place she lived.

Thank you HH.  It is so good to have someone familiar with the area.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 29, 2009, 03:02:03 PM
YW  cece, and something is wierd about all this, I think Misty's brother did indeed do something, maybe not with Haleigh but at another time and there's more to the story of what is going on then just what happened to Haleigh. This is crazy and getting crazier by the minute, someone is gonna trip up her soon and all hell is gonna break loose.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 03:03:17 PM
YW  cece, and something is wierd about all this, I think Misty's brother did indeed do something, maybe not with Haleigh but at another time and there's more to the story of what is going on then just what happened to Haleigh. This is crazy and getting crazier by the minute, someone is gonna trip up her soon and all hell is gonna break loose.
So all of this activity is rather close to where Haleigh you to live? Thanks for all the maps everyone.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 29, 2009, 03:10:40 PM
YW  cece, and something is wierd about all this, I think Misty's brother did indeed do something, maybe not with Haleigh but at another time and there's more to the story of what is going on then just what happened to Haleigh. This is crazy and getting crazier by the minute, someone is gonna trip up her soon and all hell is gonna break loose.
So all of this activity is rather close to where Haleigh you to live? Thanks for all the maps everyone.
Yes it is Rose, right in front of the woods in front of the old Mobile home, and have you heard if Misty's brother was gonna move with the family when they left or not?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 29, 2009, 03:14:58 PM
Is anyone listening to the scanner?

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=369

Police is waiting on a detective to respond about some female at a hotel


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 03:18:08 PM
YW  cece, and something is wierd about all this, I think Misty's brother did indeed do something, maybe not with Haleigh but at another time and there's more to the story of what is going on then just what happened to Haleigh. This is crazy and getting crazier by the minute, someone is gonna trip up her soon and all hell is gonna break loose.
So all of this activity is rather close to where Haleigh you to live? Thanks for all the maps everyone.
Yes it is Rose, right in front of the woods in front of the old Mobile home, and have you heard if Misty's brother was gonna move with the family when they left or not?
Thanks, I just assumed he would move with the rest of the family, but I have no idea.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 03:18:52 PM
Is anyone listening to the scanner?

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=369

Police is waiting on a detective to respond about some female at a hotel
Misty  ::MonkeyEek::  I don't even want my mind going there.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 29, 2009, 03:20:09 PM
Is anyone listening to the scanner?

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=369

Police is waiting on a detective to respond about some female at a hotel
Misty  ::MonkeyEek::  I don't even want my mind going there.
I doubt it would be Misty, remember she dont trust LE....lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 03:24:44 PM
Is anyone listening to the scanner?

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=369

Police is waiting on a detective to respond about some female at a hotel
Misty  ::MonkeyEek::  I don't even want my mind going there.
I doubt it would be Misty, remember she dont trust LE....lol
I was sort of thinking like when George Anthony went to the motel  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 29, 2009, 03:34:18 PM
Is anyone listening to the scanner?

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=369

Police is waiting on a detective to respond about some female at a hotel
Misty  ::MonkeyEek::  I don't even want my mind going there.

Well, it can't be Nay Nay or Amber, they are already behind bars.

Must be someone like that though.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 03:35:54 PM
Is anyone listening to the scanner?

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=369

Police is waiting on a detective to respond about some female at a hotel
Misty  ::MonkeyEek::  I don't even want my mind going there.

Well, it can't be Nay Nay or Amber, they are already behind bars.

Must be someone like that though.
Wow, I guess that nothing should surprise me anymore, but things still do.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 29, 2009, 03:38:49 PM
YW  cece, and something is wierd about all this, I think Misty's brother did indeed do something, maybe not with Haleigh but at another time and there's more to the story of what is going on then just what happened to Haleigh. This is crazy and getting crazier by the minute, someone is gonna trip up her soon and all hell is gonna break loose.
So all of this activity is rather close to where Haleigh you to live? Thanks for all the maps everyone.

On the yellow pages map I see that Hoot Owl Road is in that vicinity which leads in the direction of Crane Pond and Sugarbowl Lake.

I recall reading something regarding Sugarbowl Lake earlier in this case.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 03:50:25 PM
YW  cece, and something is wierd about all this, I think Misty's brother did indeed do something, maybe not with Haleigh but at another time and there's more to the story of what is going on then just what happened to Haleigh. This is crazy and getting crazier by the minute, someone is gonna trip up her soon and all hell is gonna break loose.
So all of this activity is rather close to where Haleigh you to live? Thanks for all the maps everyone.

On the yellow pages map I see that Hoot Owl Road is in that vicinity which leads in the direction of Crane Pond and Sugarbowl Lake.

I recall reading something regarding Sugarbowl Lake earlier in this case.
Is that where Ron would fish?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 29, 2009, 03:51:46 PM
(http://www.ownersells.us/pb/wp_64085d8b/images/img58944f5ecc8cc8fd.gif)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 03:58:30 PM
"local' reports are saying that the search has extended from the area next to Tyler street (Hoot Owl Ridge development) over onto Tyler/Monroe/Green Lane area. Several other areas have also been mentioned, one near GGMS home.  From Raeann  at WS, rumor thread.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 29, 2009, 04:00:19 PM
YW  cece, and something is wierd about all this, I think Misty's brother did indeed do something, maybe not with Haleigh but at another time and there's more to the story of what is going on then just what happened to Haleigh. This is crazy and getting crazier by the minute, someone is gonna trip up her soon and all hell is gonna break loose.
So all of this activity is rather close to where Haleigh you to live? Thanks for all the maps everyone.

On the yellow pages map I see that Hoot Owl Road is in that vicinity which leads in the direction of Crane Pond and Sugarbowl Lake.

I recall reading something regarding Sugarbowl Lake earlier in this case.
Is that where Ron would fish?
I think the area that Ronald was said to fish was a place called shell pond or something like that, but I do remember a sugarbowl Lake being mentioned for some reason.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 29, 2009, 04:01:28 PM
"local' reports are saying that the search has extended from the area next to Tyler street (Hoot Owl Ridge development) over onto Tyler/Monroe/Green Lane area. Several other areas have also been mentioned, one near GGMS home.  From Raeann  at WS, rumor thread.
Oh my goodness, what the heck is going on , something is defianaitly up with all this.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 04:02:22 PM
Something about 4 wheelers, Rabbit Run Road and then a 33 code and tone....which means radio silence.   Posted by tehcloser WS rumor thread.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 04:04:06 PM
"local' reports are saying that the search has extended from the area next to Tyler street (Hoot Owl Ridge development) over onto Tyler/Monroe/Green Lane area. Several other areas have also been mentioned, one near GGMS home.  From Raeann  at WS, rumor thread.
Oh my goodness, what the heck is going on , something is defianaitly up with all this.
Something on the scanner, and now the scanner is silent.  Radio silence


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cartfly on August 29, 2009, 04:07:16 PM
http://twitter.com/marie1207  (http://twitter.com/marie1207)


More from Marie's twitter:

Because she knows what he did too, so he has to keep her quite.  ::MonkeyShocked::
24 minutes ago from web

What goes around comes around God is revealing the darkness it will all come around full circle.
about 1 hour ago from web

Looks like the Lord is revealing and bring things out of the darkness and into the light. Glory to his name on High.
about 2 hours ago from web

Thanks for the earlier link (Island) to Marie's twitter.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: alagary on August 29, 2009, 04:27:23 PM
Update: Saturday Search for Haleigh Over


http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=144137&catid=3


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 29, 2009, 04:28:34 PM
Update: Saturday Search for Haleigh Over

 Mike Adams     Created: 8/29/2009 11:14:35 AM    Updated: 8/29/2009 3:46:35 PM

 
PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- EcuuSearch completed their Saturday search without finding Haleigh Cummings but still calling the day a success.

Along with Putnam County officials, EccuSearch spent a hot Saturday searching an area previously covered. They deemed it a success because the reaquainted themselves with an area they will soon search again.

The teams were out again after a comment by Misty Croslin-Cummings revealed a possible new detail. According to the Gainesville Sun, Croslin-Cummings mentioned something about a fake rose and that was enough for EquuSearch to begin a new hunt for clues.

First Coast News has learned that EquuSearch is leading the operation and Putnam County officials are monitoring.

Croslin-Cummings made headlines again this week after taking independent polygraph, voice analysis and hypnosis tests to try to prove her innocence. According to Tim Miller of EquuSearch, Croslin-Cummings "miserably failed" the tests. The tests were video taped and the fake rose comment was made off camera.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=144137&catid=3


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 29, 2009, 04:28:39 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=144137&catid=3


PUTNAM COUNTY, FL -- EcuuSearch completed their Saturday search without finding Haleigh Cummings but still calling the day a success.

Along with Putnam County officials, EccuSearch spent a hot Saturday searching an area previously covered. They deemed it a success because the reaquainted themselves with an area they will soon search again.

The teams were out again after a comment by Misty Croslin-Cummings revealed a possible new detail. According to the Gainesville Sun, Croslin-Cummings mentioned something about a fake rose and that was enough for EquuSearch to begin a new hunt for clues.

(snipped)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 29, 2009, 04:28:54 PM


Hi monkeys, a friend just told me the search came up empty and no search will be done tomorrow.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 04:30:22 PM


Hi monkeys, a friend just told me the search came up empty and no search will be done tomorrow.
Thanks


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cece on August 29, 2009, 04:30:59 PM
I'm sorry, I mean, how many ways is there to spell TES???

Ecuusearch, Equusearch.......   ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 29, 2009, 04:43:41 PM


Hi monkeys, a friend just told me the search came up empty and no search will be done tomorrow.
Thanks

You are welcome NRCG. I knew you would be on pins n needles waiting for news so as soon as I heard, I let you know.   ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 04:47:46 PM


Hi monkeys, a friend just told me the search came up empty and no search will be done tomorrow.
Thanks

You are welcome NRCG. I knew you would be on pins n needles waiting for news so as soon as I heard, I let you know.   ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::
I appreciate that, so I guess that rose was some sort of setup?  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 29, 2009, 04:49:19 PM


Hi monkeys, a friend just told me the search came up empty and no search will be done tomorrow.
Thanks

You are welcome NRCG. I knew you would be on pins n needles waiting for news so as soon as I heard, I let you know.   ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::
I appreciate that, so I guess that rose was some sort of setup?  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Not sure, but have to wonder and also wonder why. I think if LE does some digging they will find the truth on that rose and that area.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 29, 2009, 05:07:48 PM
I sure hope someone comes to a conclusion about that rose.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 29, 2009, 06:17:36 PM
http://twitter.com/marie1207  (http://twitter.com/marie1207)


More from Marie's twitter:

Because she knows what he did too, so he has to keep her quite.  ::MonkeyShocked::
24 minutes ago from web

What goes around comes around God is revealing the darkness it will all come around full circle.
about 1 hour ago from web

Looks like the Lord is revealing and bring things out of the darkness and into the light. Glory to his name on High.
about 2 hours ago from web

Thanks for the earlier link (Island) to Marie's twitter.

YW~I read thru it alot, and it seems they are watching the threads, and it breaks my heart what they have endured and also the fact that Jr is still around that crazy family ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 29, 2009, 06:51:48 PM
If anyone is following the tweets at http://twitter.com/RadioNewz#/RadioNewz

Here is a refresher map:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image14-1.png)

They keep mentioning 3 sisters road .. I am guessing they mean Seven Sisters Drive.

Thoughts on that, anyone?

Thanks Brandi~I had the link, but have no clue how to post the picture from it

NP .. FYI though, I capture the image, crop or resize it then upload it to my photobucket account, then link to that.



I fouind a 3 sisters rd in st john off off county rd...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 29, 2009, 08:30:57 PM
In this video:

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?maven_playerId=immersiveplayer&maven_referralPlaylistId=e91276d17ee6ae4cc3bcd3da8b1d0b7d36168356&maven_referralObject=1231596480

Misty says that some say that a red truck was involved in HaLeigh's disappearance and that her brother Tommy had a red truck until immediately after HaLeigh went missing.

Misty states that Tommy sold that truck to a black guy even though her father, Hank, had paid Tommy $500.00 to keep the truck. After which the motor blew up in the truck.

Misty says she keeps hearing things about Tommy possibly involved in HaLeigh's disappearance.

Misty said that Joe, her cousin is crazy. Tommy recently after HaLeigh went missing has become a pill junky, a crack head, tried to kill Hank Jr, put a knife to Hank's throat.

Misty stated why did the cops think that Tommy had something to do with HaLeigh's disappearance if he did'nt.

Misty said she found Ronald's missing gun at Tommy's house instead of in a ditch as reported earlier in the case.

Misty said she never thought that Tommy would end up like this, he is the only one that never did any drugs.  Hes going crazy himself.

Misty says that Timmy Croslin that lives in Crescent City woke up around 12:30 or 1:00 a.m. Joe Overstreet was not where he normally sleeps, the keys were not where they normally were kept and the van was parked in a different place. 

Misty stated that Joe was not familiar with the area, so it is Misty's assumption that if Joe had something to do with HaLeigh's disappearance that so did Tommy.

_____________________________________________________

After listening to this a few things come to mind.

First, I believe that this is the first time that I have heard that it was a red colored truck involved in HaLeigh's disappearance.

What was Hank Sr's real reason for not completing a written or recorded statement a few weeks ago after the Croslin/Cummings sparing match?

What is really up with this Croslin crew, especially Hank Sr.

And I believe that there is some truth in Misty's responses to the questions posed to her.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 29, 2009, 08:32:01 PM
Lakes and ponds in Putnam county..
 ::MonkeyTongue::

http://www.topozone.com/states/Florida.asp?county=Putnam&feature=Lake




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 29, 2009, 08:36:01 PM
In this video:

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?maven_playerId=immersiveplayer&maven_referralPlaylistId=e91276d17ee6ae4cc3bcd3da8b1d0b7d36168356&maven_referralObject=1231596480

Misty says that some say that a red truck was involved in HaLeigh's disappearance and that her brother Tommy had a red truck until immediately after HaLeigh went missing.

Misty states that Tommy sold that truck to a black guy even though her father, Hank, had paid Tommy $500.00 to keep the truck. After which the motor blew up in the truck.

Misty says she keeps hearing things about Tommy possibly involved in HaLeigh's disappearance.

Misty said that Joe, her cousin is crazy. Tommy recently after HaLeigh went missing has become a pill junky, a crack head, tried to kill Hank Jr, put a knife to Hank's throat.

Misty stated why did the cops think that Tommy had something to do with HaLeigh's disappearance if he did'nt.

Misty said she found Ronald's missing gun at Tommy's house instead of in a ditch as reported earlier in the case.

Misty said she never thought that Tommy would end up like this, he is the only one that never did any drugs.  Hes going crazy himself.

Misty says that Timmy Croslin that lives in Crescent City woke up around 12:30 or 1:00 a.m. Joe Overstreet was not where he normally sleeps, the keys were not where they normally were kept and the van was parked in a different place. 

Misty stated that Joe was not familiar with the area, so it is Misty's assumption that if Joe had something to do with HaLeigh's disappearance that so did Tommy.

_____________________________________________________

After listening to this a few things come to mind.

First, I believe that this is the first time that I have heard that it was a red colored truck involved in HaLeigh's disappearance.

What was Hank Sr's real reason for not completing a written or recorded statement a few weeks ago after the Croslin/Cummings sparing match?

What is really up with this Croslin crew, especially Hank Sr.

And I believe that there is some truth in Misty's responses to the questions posed to her.


State of Record:    FL
State Reference ID:    P05000032001
Registered Agent:    Hank T Croslin
1425 County Road 302
Bunnell, FL 32110
File Date:    3/1/2005
Active:    False
Filing Type:    Domestic for Profit

http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Bunnell/t-t-drywall-inc-5601172.aspx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 29, 2009, 09:16:14 PM
1425 county rd 302, bunnell

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/1425burnnell.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 29, 2009, 09:21:09 PM
Blogging From San Fransico

August 29, 2009 by Steph

Just landed in SF California. Another state another case

Much to no ones suprise, the search today in the Haleigh Cummings case based off of a tip by Misty Cummings turned up nothing.

http://stephww.wordpress.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 29, 2009, 09:39:50 PM
Blogging From San Fransico

August 29, 2009 by Steph

Just landed in SF California. Another state another case

Much to no ones suprise, the search today in the Haleigh Cummings case based off of a tip by Misty Cummings turned up nothing.

http://stephww.wordpress.com/


Steph Watts


http://www.linkedin.com/pub/steph-watts/1/b25/764
http://www.stephwattsreporter.com/
Google search for steph watts blogtalkradio:  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=steph+watts+blogtalkradio&btnG=Search&aq=0sx&oq=steph+watts+&aqi=g-sx2g1g-sx4g1g-sx2



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 29, 2009, 10:15:50 PM
If anyone is following the tweets at http://twitter.com/RadioNewz#/RadioNewz

Here is a refresher map:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image14-1.png)

They keep mentioning 3 sisters road .. I am guessing they mean Seven Sisters Drive.

Thoughts on that, anyone?

Thanks Brandi~I had the link, but have no clue how to post the picture from it

NP .. FYI though, I capture the image, crop or resize it then upload it to my photobucket account, then link to that.



I fouind a 3 sisters rd in st john off off county rd...

Hi JG!

There is a Three Sisters Court ... but not near this area. (Three Sisters Ct, St Johns, Florida 32259.) This is about 45 miles North of the area where they lived.

The tweet I was referring to said this:
"There is a dirt road near the beginning of Tyler street, called 3 sisters road. "
http://twitter.com/RadioNewz#/RadioNewz

I still think she meant to say Seven Sisters Drive.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 29, 2009, 11:03:10 PM
snip from NRCG:

I will have to agree with you. And one other thing, that I don't want anyone to take the wrong way, because it is a terrible and serious topic. But I really wonder if Misty was abused by any family member? Is she just saying this for sympathy, or to get family members in trouble. It would be horrific either way, if it really happened, or she is making it all up. I just don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth.

Rosie...I have said this same thing before today, that I was skeptical if her allegations were even true....my one question that I asked in the past was if her cousin Joe had really molested her in the past, why is she and the family still friendly with him? IIRC,  supposedly he had even visited her the evening that Haleigh went missing...now if someone in the past had "messed" with you...would you allow them into your home when you are there alone with 2 little kids? I don't believe anything that she might say if it was to her advantage to lie..
I almost posted what you said today myself...minds thinking alike and all that heh?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Maven on August 29, 2009, 11:16:22 PM
Hey Monkeys!

I am so lost, LOL. I had some time today to try and catch up today and it seems I have missed alot.  I am not shocked Misty failed her LDT, also saw that there was a search, I'm glad that there is still some news coming from Satsuma, but sad that Haleigh has still not been found.  I should have time to keep up with the case now that school is back in session.

Oh and I love all the new monkey smilies! ::MonkeyCheer2::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 29, 2009, 11:27:24 PM
http://haleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/index.php?topic=334.0


Ger's putting up her photos of the search location now........ ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 29, 2009, 11:29:00 PM
Hey Monkeys!

I am so lost, LOL. I had some time today to try and catch up today and it seems I have missed alot.  I am not shocked Misty failed her LDT, also saw that there was a search, I'm glad that there is still some news coming from Satsuma, but sad that Haleigh has still not been found.  I should have time to keep up with the case now that school is back in session.

Oh and I love all the new monkey smilies! ::MonkeyCheer2::


Hi Maven, good to see you posting again...........I love the new smilies too! ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Tams on August 29, 2009, 11:35:00 PM
snip from NRCG:

I will have to agree with you. And one other thing, that I don't want anyone to take the wrong way, because it is a terrible and serious topic. But I really wonder if Misty was abused by any family member? Is she just saying this for sympathy, or to get family members in trouble. It would be horrific either way, if it really happened, or she is making it all up. I just don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth.

Rosie...I have said this same thing before today, that I was skeptical if her allegations were even true....my one question that I asked in the past was if her cousin Joe had really molested her in the past, why is she and the family still friendly with him? IIRC,  supposedly he had even visited her the evening that Haleigh went missing...now if someone in the past had "messed" with you...would you allow them into your home when you are there alone with 2 little kids? I don't believe anything that she might say if it was to her advantage to lie..
I almost posted what you said today myself...minds thinking alike and all that heh?

Hello monkeys!

Well, then - that makes 3 of us all thinking the same thing, then . . . I have found myself wondering the same, but feeling perhaps a bit guilty for thinking it - somehow it doesn't sit right to say one doesn't believe a rape victim, does it? But it makes absolutely NO sense to me that she would maintain ties with her attackers if it were true - no way! And like you both said: she had Joe over at her house with the kids there, and Hank says he saw the kids pretty much daily . . . I don't think so. Interesting how the list keeps growing of those who have "messed with her" . . . constant excuses for the mess that is her life . .  . just like all of her other lies keep accumulating as she tries to dig herself out of this giant mess she has gotten herself into. She may be "street smart", but she is emotionally VERY immature. (Her emotional maturity and education levels are probably very similar, IMO).


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 29, 2009, 11:39:04 PM
snip from NRCG:

I will have to agree with you. And one other thing, that I don't want anyone to take the wrong way, because it is a terrible and serious topic. But I really wonder if Misty was abused by any family member? Is she just saying this for sympathy, or to get family members in trouble. It would be horrific either way, if it really happened, or she is making it all up. I just don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth.

Rosie...I have said this same thing before today, that I was skeptical if her allegations were even true....my one question that I asked in the past was if her cousin Joe had really molested her in the past, why is she and the family still friendly with him? IIRC,  supposedly he had even visited her the evening that Haleigh went missing...now if someone in the past had "messed" with you...would you allow them into your home when you are there alone with 2 little kids? I don't believe anything that she might say if it was to her advantage to lie..
I almost posted what you said today myself...minds thinking alike and all that heh?

Hello monkeys!

Well, then - that makes 3 of us all thinking the same thing, then . . . I have found myself wondering the same, but feeling perhaps a bit guilty for thinking it - somehow it doesn't sit right to say one doesn't believe a rape victim, does it? But it makes absolutely NO sense to me that she would maintain ties with her attackers if it were true - no way! And like you both said: she had Joe over at her house with the kids there, and Hank says he saw the kids pretty much daily . . . I don't think so. Interesting how the list keeps growing of those who have "messed with her" . . . constant excuses for the mess that is her life . .  . just like all of her other lies keep accumulating as she tries to dig herself out of this giant mess she has gotten herself into. She may be "street smart", but she is emotionally VERY immature. (Her emotional maturity and education levels are probably very similar, IMO).

4 ::MonkeyTongue:: I posted about it earlier today myself.........she wants us to believe she's been molested by 3 different people ::MonkeyDevil2:: So not buying it. My son was a victim at age three as most know, and I was told by the psychologist and rape crisis center that he would have a very strong intuition about people who "aren't right" IYKWIM and he has a very heightened sense of aawareness and is super cautious.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 29, 2009, 11:40:41 PM
According to Ger's photo's from the search area, I thought I'd post a bit of info about that area:


Murphy Creek Conservation Area
Trail Guide 2 Trail Guide 1 MapQuest Location Property Map

Size:
1,842 acres.

Location:
In Putnam County, approximately five miles south of Palatka and one mile northwest of Satsuma.


http://www.sjrwmd.com/recreationguide/murphycreek/

Description:
The Murphy Creek Conservation Area is predominantly hardwood swamps associated with Murphy Creek and the St. Johns River. The limited uplands contain sandhill, flatwoods and hardwood hammock. Purchase of the Murphy Creek parcel and Murphy Island (a part of this conservation area) protects the water resources of both the St. Johns River and Murphy Creek. Murphy Island contains one of the few upland areas along the St. Johns River that can be reached by boat. High bluffs on the island provide an opportunity for a spectacular view of the river.

Wildlife viewing:
Bald eagles, gopher tortoises, Virginia opossums, white-tailed deer, bobcats and foxes. Numerous waterfowl and wading birds can be found in the wetlands.

 

       Recreational activities:
Hiking, bicycling, horseback riding, wildlife viewing and nature study.
Group camping and primitive camping are allowed only at designated sites.
Murphy Island contains a boat landing, more than six miles of hiking trails and a primitive campsite. more info
Boating and canoeing opportunities are available on Murphy Creek and the St. Johns River, and the property is accessible by water; however, there are no launches located on the property.
Restrictions: more info
Motorized vehicles are not permitted.
Access:
From U.S. 17, turn west on County Road 309B. A parking area is approximately one-half mile on the north side of the road. Access to Murphy Island is by boat only.

For more information:
Call the District’s Division of Land Management at (386) 329-4404.





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 29, 2009, 11:43:28 PM
I can't do screen capture, but it's pretty close to the railroad tracks:

http://atlas.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&formtype=latlong&latlongtype=degrees&latdeg=29&latmin=34&latsec=13&longdeg=-81&longmin=39&longsec=37


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 29, 2009, 11:47:30 PM
I can't do screen capture, but it's pretty close to the railroad tracks:

http://atlas.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&formtype=latlong&latlongtype=degrees&latdeg=29&latmin=34&latsec=13&longdeg=-81&longmin=39&longsec=37




Below is the map of that property


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Tams on August 29, 2009, 11:56:42 PM
Re: Misty claiming a number of family members have "messed with her":

Yes, IM - I do recall reading your post now as well - after a whole day at work there are quite a few pages to catch up on - eek!Sounds like we are all on the same page, then - this girl just pulls whatever she can think of out & throws it out there to see what will win her a sympathetic audience . . . Trouble is, she is just too dumb too see that she is no longer fooling anyone . . .

It was also mentioned earlier that some were concerned that she may try to harm herself . . . what do you like-minded monkeys feel about that? I am torn - but I think my gut leaning towards that she would rather just go on complaining "poor poor me" than end it all. I


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 29, 2009, 11:58:59 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/MOD/modlock5.gif)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Tams on August 30, 2009, 12:01:30 AM
Don't know what happened to the rest of my post - LOL. What I wanted to finish saying/asking:

I would not be surprised at all though if she were to wind up dead at the hands of someone else - most especially angry violent Ronnie boy . . . thoughts?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 30, 2009, 12:05:13 AM
http://haleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/index.php?topic=334.0


Ger's putting up her photos of the search location now........ ::MonkeyJnBox::
Man that is a lot of thick brush and a alot of area to search....good thing Ron could take them right to the rose...strange if you ask me.....You would think that they would have searched with dogs today too maybe they did and I just didn't see them in the pics ...what a mess....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 30, 2009, 12:05:25 AM
Don't know what happened to the rest of my post - LOL. What I wanted to finish saying/asking:

I would not be surprised at all though if she were to wind up dead at the hands of someone else - most especially angry violent Ronnie boy . . . thoughts?

I don't think she'd harm herself, but Ron would be crazier than I think he is to kill her with all the intense pressure on them now. I also think she is covering for someone and I don't think she'd cover for her family and that leads me to believe she's covering for Ron, mainly because if she hurt Haleigh on her own and Ron knew, I think she'd have been dead by now. MOO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 30, 2009, 12:09:05 AM
http://haleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/index.php?topic=334.0


Ger's putting up her photos of the search location now........ ::MonkeyJnBox::
Man that is a lot of thick brush and a alot of area to search....good thing Ron could take them right to the rose...strange if you ask me.....You would think that they would have searched with dogs today too maybe they did and I just didn't see them in the pics ...what a mess....

I'm sure it's nothing, but did you notice in the map I posted of the property there is a Rat Island there? Weird huh...........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: my2cents on August 30, 2009, 12:11:06 AM
Don't know what happened to the rest of my post - LOL. What I wanted to finish saying/asking:

I would not be surprised at all though if she were to wind up dead at the hands of someone else - most especially angry violent Ronnie boy . . . thoughts?
She sure is mouthing off about a lot of people and I bet they are very angry....if she were to come up missing I bet it would be a toss up with who to start looking at ...too many people with motive.....if you ask me she is playing a very dangerous game


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cartfly on August 30, 2009, 12:36:47 AM
Don't know what happened to the rest of my post - LOL. What I wanted to finish saying/asking:

I would not be surprised at all though if she were to wind up dead at the hands of someone else - most especially angry violent Ronnie boy . . . thoughts?
She sure is mouthing off about a lot of people and I bet they are very angry....if she were to come up missing I bet it would be a toss up with who to start looking at ...too many people with motive.....if you ask me she is playing a very dangerous game

I agree with you completely about this dangerous game she is playing. She has to know how dangerous "this crowd" is. Unless, she thinks Ron will protect her.... ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 30, 2009, 12:39:26 AM
Going by Ger directions to shell pond off of Forklore .. Not far from Ron's MH..I hope you dont mind me posting all theses pics... ::MonkeyTongue::


(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt126/jerseygirl12345/shellpond2.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on August 30, 2009, 12:43:10 AM
Don't know what happened to the rest of my post - LOL. What I wanted to finish saying/asking:

I would not be surprised at all though if she were to wind up dead at the hands of someone else - most especially angry violent Ronnie boy . . . thoughts?

I don't think she'd harm herself, but Ron would be crazier than I think he is to kill her with all the intense pressure on them now. I also think she is covering for someone and I don't think she'd cover for her family and that leads me to believe she's covering for Ron, mainly because if she hurt Haleigh on her own and Ron knew, I think she'd have been dead by now. MOO



I just finished watching the video of Misty’s voice test. It was really hard to watch it all the way to the end. For some reason I have the same aversion to Misty speaking as when I have to listen to George and Cindy Anthony. It makes me feel like I’m being sucked into some kind of vortex. I have to admit that I am truly repulsed by most of the bottom feeders that are involved in this tragedy and haven’t been following the case that closely because of my disgust for them. I feel bad for the loss of this poor little child as she is the only innocent in all of this madness. Those people are just trash!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 30, 2009, 12:47:39 AM
snip from NRCG:

I will have to agree with you. And one other thing, that I don't want anyone to take the wrong way, because it is a terrible and serious topic. But I really wonder if Misty was abused by any family member? Is she just saying this for sympathy, or to get family members in trouble. It would be horrific either way, if it really happened, or she is making it all up. I just don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth.

Rosie...I have said this same thing before today, that I was skeptical if her allegations were even true....my one question that I asked in the past was if her cousin Joe had really molested her in the past, why is she and the family still friendly with him? IIRC,  supposedly he had even visited her the evening that Haleigh went missing...now if someone in the past had "messed" with you...would you allow them into your home when you are there alone with 2 little kids? I don't believe anything that she might say if it was to her advantage to lie..
I almost posted what you said today myself...minds thinking alike and all that heh?

Hello monkeys!

Well, then - that makes 3 of us all thinking the same thing, then . . . I have found myself wondering the same, but feeling perhaps a bit guilty for thinking it - somehow it doesn't sit right to say one doesn't believe a rape victim, does it? But it makes absolutely NO sense to me that she would maintain ties with her attackers if it were true - no way! And like you both said: she had Joe over at her house with the kids there, and Hank says he saw the kids pretty much daily . . . I don't think so. Interesting how the list keeps growing of those who have "messed with her" . . . constant excuses for the mess that is her life . .  . just like all of her other lies keep accumulating as she tries to dig herself out of this giant mess she has gotten herself into. She may be "street smart", but she is emotionally VERY immature. (Her emotional maturity and education levels are probably very similar, IMO).

4 ::MonkeyTongue:: I posted about it earlier today myself.........she wants us to believe she's been molested by 3 different people ::MonkeyDevil2:: So not buying it. My son was a victim at age three as most know, and I was told by the psychologist and rape crisis center that he would have a very strong intuition about people who "aren't right" IYKWIM and he has a very heightened sense of aawareness and is super cautious.

Well I for one will not jump out there and say that she is lying.  That dysfunctional drug infested family, I would not put it pass them.

I worked with a woman that had been molested by two different stepfathers and an uncle when she was a young girl. She  had no choice but to continue to be around them, because when she informed her mother about one of them, her mother did not believe her and became upset with her.

I wonder just why Misty was not sent, made to go to school.

Everyone does not react or respond the same. Everyone does not have the state of mind to seek assistance of a psychologist and rape crisis center.


Mothers of incest survivors: another side of the story - Google Books Result


of family dysfunction that is handed down from one generation to the next, ... Diane was molested by an uncle and an older brother but said she chose to

http://books.google.com/books?id=Y8hC2sqbsDwC&pg=PA83&lpg=PA83&dq=family+dysfunction+and+molestation&source=bl&ots=xUpVD6IOTM&sig=eWtn2TYzVeB0l9dqz88iskJ_wIs&hl=en&ei=6gGaSujaD6rxnQecwfmVCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5#v=onepage&q=&f=false


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 30, 2009, 12:51:27 AM
snip from NRCG:

I will have to agree with you. And one other thing, that I don't want anyone to take the wrong way, because it is a terrible and serious topic. But I really wonder if Misty was abused by any family member? Is she just saying this for sympathy, or to get family members in trouble. It would be horrific either way, if it really happened, or she is making it all up. I just don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth.

Rosie...I have said this same thing before today, that I was skeptical if her allegations were even true....my one question that I asked in the past was if her cousin Joe had really molested her in the past, why is she and the family still friendly with him? IIRC,  supposedly he had even visited her the evening that Haleigh went missing...now if someone in the past had "messed" with you...would you allow them into your home when you are there alone with 2 little kids? I don't believe anything that she might say if it was to her advantage to lie..
I almost posted what you said today myself...minds thinking alike and all that heh?

Hello monkeys!

Well, then - that makes 3 of us all thinking the same thing, then . . . I have found myself wondering the same, but feeling perhaps a bit guilty for thinking it - somehow it doesn't sit right to say one doesn't believe a rape victim, does it? But it makes absolutely NO sense to me that she would maintain ties with her attackers if it were true - no way! And like you both said: she had Joe over at her house with the kids there, and Hank says he saw the kids pretty much daily . . . I don't think so. Interesting how the list keeps growing of those who have "messed with her" . . . constant excuses for the mess that is her life . .  . just like all of her other lies keep accumulating as she tries to dig herself out of this giant mess she has gotten herself into. She may be "street smart", but she is emotionally VERY immature. (Her emotional maturity and education levels are probably very similar, IMO).

4 ::MonkeyTongue:: I posted about it earlier today myself.........she wants us to believe she's been molested by 3 different people ::MonkeyDevil2:: So not buying it. My son was a victim at age three as most know, and I was told by the psychologist and rape crisis center that he would have a very strong intuition about people who "aren't right" IYKWIM and he has a very heightened sense of aawareness and is super cautious.

#5.. I still cant get past the 911 call, Greta interview or the today show interview..Let alone all the inconsistancies and coaching... They are involved directly ot indirectly...JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 30, 2009, 12:52:35 AM
snip from NRCG:

I will have to agree with you. And one other thing, that I don't want anyone to take the wrong way, because it is a terrible and serious topic. But I really wonder if Misty was abused by any family member? Is she just saying this for sympathy, or to get family members in trouble. It would be horrific either way, if it really happened, or she is making it all up. I just don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth.

Rosie...I have said this same thing before today, that I was skeptical if her allegations were even true....my one question that I asked in the past was if her cousin Joe had really molested her in the past, why is she and the family still friendly with him? IIRC,  supposedly he had even visited her the evening that Haleigh went missing...now if someone in the past had "messed" with you...would you allow them into your home when you are there alone with 2 little kids? I don't believe anything that she might say if it was to her advantage to lie..
I almost posted what you said today myself...minds thinking alike and all that heh?

Hello monkeys!

Well, then - that makes 3 of us all thinking the same thing, then . . . I have found myself wondering the same, but feeling perhaps a bit guilty for thinking it - somehow it doesn't sit right to say one doesn't believe a rape victim, does it? But it makes absolutely NO sense to me that she would maintain ties with her attackers if it were true - no way! And like you both said: she had Joe over at her house with the kids there, and Hank says he saw the kids pretty much daily . . . I don't think so. Interesting how the list keeps growing of those who have "messed with her" . . . constant excuses for the mess that is her life . .  . just like all of her other lies keep accumulating as she tries to dig herself out of this giant mess she has gotten herself into. She may be "street smart", but she is emotionally VERY immature. (Her emotional maturity and education levels are probably very similar, IMO).

4 ::MonkeyTongue:: I posted about it earlier today myself.........she wants us to believe she's been molested by 3 different people ::MonkeyDevil2:: So not buying it. My son was a victim at age three as most know, and I was told by the psychologist and rape crisis center that he would have a very strong intuition about people who "aren't right" IYKWIM and he has a very heightened sense of aawareness and is super cautious.

Well I for one will not jump out there and say that she is lying.  That dysfunctional drug infested family, I would not put it pass them.

I worked with a woman that had been molested by two different stepfathers and an uncle when she was a young girl. She  had no choice but to continue to be around them, because when she informed her mother about one of them, her mother did not believe her and became upset with her.

I wonder just why Misty was not sent, made to go to school.

Everyone does not react or respond the same. Everyone does not have the state of mind to seek assistance of a psychologist and rape crisis center.


Mothers of incest survivors: another side of the story - Google Books Result


of family dysfunction that is handed down from one generation to the next, ... Diane was molested by an uncle and an older brother but said she chose to

http://books.google.com/books?id=Y8hC2sqbsDwC&pg=PA83&lpg=PA83&dq=family+dysfunction+and+molestation&source=bl&ots=xUpVD6IOTM&sig=eWtn2TYzVeB0l9dqz88iskJ_wIs&hl=en&ei=6gGaSujaD6rxnQecwfmVCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Well, I AM the mother of an incest victim..............and he is hypersensitive to men and I was told by everyone I spoke with over those 3yrs of hell if he would be more suseptible to this now and their statement s were absolutely not, he would be more aware and proetective of himself and that has shown to be true for the past 6 yrs.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 30, 2009, 12:57:56 AM
Don't know what happened to the rest of my post - LOL. What I wanted to finish saying/asking:

I would not be surprised at all though if she were to wind up dead at the hands of someone else - most especially angry violent Ronnie boy . . . thoughts?
She sure is mouthing off about a lot of people and I bet they are very angry....if she were to come up missing I bet it would be a toss up with who to start looking at ...too many people with motive.....if you ask me she is playing a very dangerous game

Well everyone was screaming and wanting her to talk, so now she has had her say, lol.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 30, 2009, 01:07:30 AM
I have been holding out hope (I know, odds are against this) that Haleigh is alive.

Today's search really had me anxious. I am kind of glad she was not found, because I believe they were looking for remains today.

But I feel let down because I don't see any progress from today's search, although Tim Miller or someone in his group reportedly said that they were ahead of the game, since they covered the area they did today.

I do so much want closure, as we all do, but I am glad no remains were found. And sorry that there is no closure yet.

Where, oh, where is that little girl?



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cecilita on August 30, 2009, 01:11:10 AM
Did She say that the searches should go back to search an area was already searched? so it means that Tim was close to Haleigh... maybe that is the reason the misty start feeling better and happy after Tim cleared the zone were Haleigh was buried....just to see the videos you can see her very scared and days after she was feeling very confident.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 30, 2009, 01:17:31 AM
Efforts continue in Haleigh Cummings' disappearance

No results from search, and no response from Sheriff's Office.


There was a flurry of activity related to the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings over the weekend.

The Putnam County Sheriff's Office interviewed Misty Cummings' brother and his wife Friday evening, and searchers on horseback continued the hunt for the missing Putnam County kindergartner Saturday morning at a plot of land near the Palatka home where she last seen in February.

The search yielded no results. The Sheriff's Office didn't respond to multiple calls for comment about the interviews.

Crystal Sheffield, Haleigh Cumming's mother, said she heard from investigators that Tommy Croslin and his wife were brought in for questioning because of comments from Misty Cummings, 17, wife of Haleigh's father, Ronald.

"They were checking up about some things she had told police," Sheffield said.

She added the interviews each lasted a few hours.

The 30-person search was undertaken by EquuSearch, a Texas group that specializes in tracking down missing children and was involved with the Caylee Anthony case.

EquuSearch founder Tim Miller said the search was planned in advance, and Cummings suggested the location because she believed the 6-acre wooded plot hadn't been thoroughly searched.

Cummings has been under intense scrutiny after a series of poor results on different tests, such as voice analysis, administered by Miller. Those results went public shortly after authorities issued a release that said physical evidence contradicts where she told detectives she was when the girl vanished. Lt. Johnny Greenwood of the Putnam County Sheriff's Office told the Times-Union earlier this month that Misty Cummings knows more than she is letting on, but she isn't considered a suspect.

An argument between Ronald Cummings and his brother-in-law, Hank Croslin Jr., preceded the search and interviews. The fight earlier this month ended with Ronald Cummings' arrest. Two days later, Croslin found a dead rat in his Satsuma mailbox.

Misty and Ronald Cummings were not available for comment.

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-08-30/story/efforts_continue_in_haleigh_cummings_disappearance


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 30, 2009, 01:20:12 AM
Did She say that the searches should go back to search an area was already searched? so it means that Tim was close to Haleigh... maybe that is the reason the misty start feeling better and happy after Tim cleared the zone were Haleigh was buried....just to see the videos you can see her very scared and days after she was feeling very confident.

They just did the search today, Saturday.  Have you seen videos taken of Misty today?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 30, 2009, 01:23:50 AM
Nothing found in search for Haleigh and Tracy

Updated: Saturday, 29 Aug 2009, 8:59 PM EDT
Published : Saturday, 29 Aug 2009, 11:57 AM EDT

ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35. Orlando) - Search crews hit the ground running Saturday for two of Florida’s missing people.

A team of specialized search and rescue volunteers were in Ocoee this weekend looking for clues into the disappearance of Tracy Ocasio. The 27-year-old woman went missing in May after leaving the Tap Room bar in Metrowest with James Hataway, a person of interest in her disappearance.

The Florida-3 Airboat Search and Rescue group is made up of trained search and rescue personnel. The group recently conducted a dual search for both Tracy Ocasio and Jennifer Kesse, who has been missing since 2006 from her condo near the Mall at Millenia.

Earlier this week, Ocoee Police revealed they found a black boot in the wood that they think might have belonged to Ocasio. Police also received a tip about a body in freezer bags in an abandoned animal shelter in Winter Garden, but the medical examiner determined it was just animal bones.

As for Haleigh Cummings, members of Equusearch, the Texas-based search team, once again searched an area near the home of her father Ronald Cummings.  The 5-year-old vanished from the family’s trailer in March.

Under hypnosis, Ronald Cumming’s 17-year-old wife Misty Croslin Cummings told searchers to look for Haleigh near a rose left in an undisclosed area in Putnam County.

Based on that tip, Equusearch on Saturday headed back out to Satsuma to search for leads in the case, but nothing was found.    Watch FOX 35 News at 10 p.m. for in depth look at both stories.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/orange_news/082909_Searchers_look_for_Haleigh_and_Tracy


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Heart on August 30, 2009, 01:27:50 AM
Haleigh Cummings – BNN Radio – Schedule For Aug 29/30
Posted on August 28th, 2009
by Simon Barrett in crime


We have two programs scheduled for this weekend. At first they may not seem to have a great deal in common, but yes they do. On Saturday at 3pm Central we are going to explore the very ugly world of drugs. We tried to do this last week but technology got the better of us. At 3pm central we will have Attorney Mitch Stone, a veteran who has been both prosecutor and defender in mostly drug cases. Oh, don’t be misled, we are talking users, dealers, doctors, money launderers, and other aspects of this sad part of life.

Joining us will be author and recovering addict Carlton Davis. Also part of the panel will be Armando Aldazabal, he has two drug-centric books in print, but more importantly he has seen friends and family succumb to the lure. Armando also knows the Satsuma, Florida area fairly well, and brings some pretty interesting observations to the table.

On Sunday at 3pm central we will be talking about the Haleigh Cummings case. It has been a wild week, and getting wilder by the moment. We will have the regular panel, and we are working on some special guests. The fire has been put to Misty’s feet, we just might have some more!

Our phone has been ringing off the hook for the past two days. Suddenly a lot of what has been speculated for months (behind closed doors) needs to be looked at in a whole new light. Many things that we have talked about in private suddenly take on a new importance.

This should be a very interesting program. If you have been following the search for Haleigh Cummings, this program is one that you will not want to miss.

To listen in to either program, just point your browser to www.blogtalkradio.com a few minutes before we go on air, the link to listen will be on the front page.

Simon and Jan Barrett

http://www.bloggernews.net/122050


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Wyks on August 30, 2009, 02:26:35 AM
Regarding them possibly searching an area already searched:

I've learned from professional search teams in other cases that it's common practice to go back and search an area already searched.  Several times even.  The reason being is that evidence has been discovered in many cases where it hadn't been during the earlier searches.  Perps have gone behind the search teams and hidden evidence (even bodies) where they must have thought had been cleared.  And in this they felt safe.  Such evidence has been found in other cases in those exact same areas during the 2nd/3rd sweep.   

And one reason some search teams and LE aren't too keen on making public beforehand where a search is to take place, is so that evidence will not be removed ahead of time by a perp.  Only to be replaced afterward. 

The professional search teams in these other cases have said that an area typically isn't considered "all clear" until it's been searched at least 2-3 times, perhaps more. 

Take an area such as Florida, where trees/swamps/shrubbery are seemingly endless, not to mention dangerous in places... the extent of the search can become a nightmare in itself. 
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: can on August 30, 2009, 07:46:56 AM
So is Tim suppose to search the rose area tommorrow??? Then will they disclose the area????...I tell you what ...after her pointing the finger to her brother and then telling this rose story then LE taking him in for questioning I think that they are trying to set up her brother for whatever reason but he may go in there and tell life long stories about Misty ,,,I think that this girl is C_R_A_Z_Y !!!!

I don't know if she's crazy or not, but her grammar makes the Baby Jesus cry.
I am wondering if it is really that bad ...can't really see her making it to 7th grade that way .....we need to compare her spelling to the myspace grammar and her signature to the marriage liscense one because I am thinking that she may be trying to act dumber than she is and also she is pulling out the I am only 17 years old crap JMO

I don't know...I really haven't been following this case and just turned on Nancy Grace tonight randomly. So, for what it's worth, I'm coming into this without any agenda or prejudices. But she strikes me as a potentially pretty, very manipulative girl who has never had any advantage in life at all. I mean, what 17-year-old shacks up with a boyfriend and his children in a trailer? (When I was 17 I was playing violin in the high school orchestra and planning for college). I'm not saying she's innocent (far from it, in my opinion). I'm just saying I genuinely believe she's low-class and disadvantaged...but maybe that's what she wants me to believe!

Reportedly, she only has a 4th grade education.  That says a lot to me.  Why??
Good afternoon Strayze. 
Isn't that illegal in and of itself?!
Good afternoon.  Illegal, yes.  But in backwoods areas, not at all uncommon.  It is a situation where remedial resources may not be available, or the public schools cannot accommodate the mentally challenged, even though there are state and federal laws on this.  Also, there is pressure on kids to work (frequently farm work). despite whatever the law is.
Shocking in this day and age!  It also leaves children vulnerable in more ways than one, as often it is a teacher's inquiry about a child missing from class, that alerts children's aid to possible problems such a abuse in the home.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: can on August 30, 2009, 07:53:24 AM
Prayers that Haleigh be found soon.

Does anyone know if Jr. has spent time with Crystal, or is he exclusively in Ron
Misty and G. Sykes care? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: theboyzmom on August 30, 2009, 08:59:09 AM
snip from NRCG:

I will have to agree with you. And one other thing, that I don't want anyone to take the wrong way, because it is a terrible and serious topic. But I really wonder if Misty was abused by any family member? Is she just saying this for sympathy, or to get family members in trouble. It would be horrific either way, if it really happened, or she is making it all up. I just don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth.

Rosie...I have said this same thing before today, that I was skeptical if her allegations were even true....my one question that I asked in the past was if her cousin Joe had really molested her in the past, why is she and the family still friendly with him? IIRC,  supposedly he had even visited her the evening that Haleigh went missing...now if someone in the past had "messed" with you...would you allow them into your home when you are there alone with 2 little kids? I don't believe anything that she might say if it was to her advantage to lie..
I almost posted what you said today myself...minds thinking alike and all that heh?

Hello monkeys!

Well, then - that makes 3 of us all thinking the same thing, then . . . I have found myself wondering the same, but feeling perhaps a bit guilty for thinking it - somehow it doesn't sit right to say one doesn't believe a rape victim, does it? But it makes absolutely NO sense to me that she would maintain ties with her attackers if it were true - no way! And like you both said: she had Joe over at her house with the kids there, and Hank says he saw the kids pretty much daily . . . I don't think so. Interesting how the list keeps growing of those who have "messed with her" . . . constant excuses for the mess that is her life . .  . just like all of her other lies keep accumulating as she tries to dig herself out of this giant mess she has gotten herself into. She may be "street smart", but she is emotionally VERY immature. (Her emotional maturity and education levels are probably very similar, IMO).

4 ::MonkeyTongue:: I posted about it earlier today myself.........she wants us to believe she's been molested by 3 different people ::MonkeyDevil2:: So not buying it. My son was a victim at age three as most know, and I was told by the psychologist and rape crisis center that he would have a very strong intuition about people who "aren't right" IYKWIM and he has a very heightened sense of aawareness and is super cautious.

Well I for one will not jump out there and say that she is lying.  That dysfunctional drug infested family, I would not put it pass them.

I worked with a woman that had been molested by two different stepfathers and an uncle when she was a young girl. She  had no choice but to continue to be around them, because when she informed her mother about one of them, her mother did not believe her and became upset with her.

I wonder just why Misty was not sent, made to go to school.

Everyone does not react or respond the same. Everyone does not have the state of mind to seek assistance of a psychologist and rape crisis center.


Mothers of incest survivors: another side of the story - Google Books Result


of family dysfunction that is handed down from one generation to the next, ... Diane was molested by an uncle and an older brother but said she chose to

http://books.google.com/books?id=Y8hC2sqbsDwC&pg=PA83&lpg=PA83&dq=family+dysfunction+and+molestation&source=bl&ots=xUpVD6IOTM&sig=eWtn2TYzVeB0l9dqz88iskJ_wIs&hl=en&ei=6gGaSujaD6rxnQecwfmVCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Well, I AM the mother of an incest victim..............and he is hypersensitive to men and I was told by everyone I spoke with over those 3yrs of hell if he would be more suseptible to this now and their statement s were absolutely not, he would be more aware and proetective of himself and that has shown to be true for the past 6 yrs.

I agree with IM - I am the mother of a victim too - and he is hypersensitive about people in general but especially about men. I just think that Misty is using the "molestation" as a way to keep people feeling sorry for her.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Sassycat on August 30, 2009, 09:12:36 AM

I agree with IM - I am the mother of a victim too - and he is hypersensitive about people in general but especially about men. I just think that Misty is using the "molestation" as a way to keep people feeling sorry for her.

I've been wondering if the "messing" incidents were mutual.   Maybe Misty was an active participant.   We all know she is no angel.       just sayin.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: seahorse on August 30, 2009, 10:01:18 AM
This is my view on the blood, deer and van:

They say there is a little bit of truth in a lie according to the guests on TV shows.

Did Misty see Haleigh as the "deer"?   Is she referring to the blood, deer and van, referring to the child?

Did someone run over Haleigh?  Was Misty was trying to tell the story without committing herself.

It is my opinion the blood, "seeing the deer put into the van", perhaps, was not the deer, instead, possibily the child.

Does anyone remember Casey Anthony's version of the squirrel being scraped off the car?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 30, 2009, 10:28:18 AM
Wow, just got caught up from last night, we lost our power, and I was getting nervous  ::MonkeyEek::  Many good posts, articles and links, thanks. Wonder what the day will bring?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: higherhopes on August 30, 2009, 12:54:37 PM
I was just getting ready for work and thinking about what Misty said in her tests about the fact that when she was first laying down to go to sleep, that Jr. crawled over her and headed for the bathroom door, she said she didnt pay it asny mind and just went on to sleep because he did this sometimes,  now I wonder, just how long did Jr. stay up? did he open the door and let someone in?  was Haleigh gone when he came back to bed?
  I can see where the LE is having problems with all this, Misty seems to be throwing so much other stuff in that has to be answered and throw suspition in other directions, like why did she have to wash her blanket if only Haleighs smelled like pee? why wait until that late at night to wash them? Did her brother come inside the house while she stayed outside with the kids, maybe to use the bathroom and he unlocked that backdoor, knowing that Misty would be out later and he could come back in? Why did he come over there to begin with, for money? to bring her drugs? to tell her where she could get drugs? or just a brotherly visit?  Why did the cousin Joe want to leave as soon as all this happened, or was he already planning on leaving anyway? And just who scratched up that darn van, is it just a coinsident that it happened on this same night or was it used to make HaLeigh dissapear?

This story is really too far fetched and with so many roads leading off to no where no wonder this case is taking forever to solve!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on August 30, 2009, 01:05:51 PM
I was just getting ready for work and thinking about what Misty said in her tests about the fact that when she was first laying down to go to sleep, that Jr. crawled over her and headed for the bathroom door, she said she didnt pay it asny mind and just went on to sleep because he did this sometimes,  now I wonder, just how long did Jr. stay up? did he open the door and let someone in?  was Haleigh gone when he came back to bed?
  I can see where the LE is having problems with all this, Misty seems to be throwing so much other stuff in that has to be answered and throw suspition in other directions, like why did she have to wash her blanket if only Haleighs smelled like pee? why wait until that late at night to wash them? Did her brother come inside the house while she stayed outside with the kids, maybe to use the bathroom and he unlocked that backdoor, knowing that Misty would be out later and he could come back in? Why did he come over there to begin with, for money? to bring her drugs? to tell her where she could get drugs? or just a brotherly visit?  Why did the cousin Joe want to leave as soon as all this happened, or was he already planning on leaving anyway? And just who scratched up that darn van, is it just a coinsident that it happened on this same night or was it used to make HaLeigh dissapear?

This story is really too far fetched and with so many roads leading off to no where no wonder this case is taking forever to solve!

I know I know the answer to my question, but I just can't recall...Does Misty's brother have a criminal record and do you know what it is? TIA


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 30, 2009, 02:05:53 PM

I agree with IM - I am the mother of a victim too - and he is hypersensitive about people in general but especially about men. I just think that Misty is using the "molestation" as a way to keep people feeling sorry for her.

I've been wondering if the "messing" incidents were mutual.   Maybe Misty was an active participant.   We all know she is no angel.       just sayin.

dunno Sassy... Misty and Joe are not that far apart in age...it may have been more of "kissing cousins" and  just 2 kids "messing around" with each other.....that would be my guess on that one...not sure about the others that she is claiming...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 30, 2009, 02:07:12 PM
Don't almost everyone have somekind of record?  ::MonkeyEek::  I'll bet her brother does, is he the one with animal offenses or his dad?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: cookie on August 30, 2009, 02:07:39 PM
I think that Hank C., Misty's dad looks a bit shady and like he has a temper...anyone else have an opinion on him?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 30, 2009, 02:09:28 PM
I think that Hank C., Misty's dad looks a bit shady and like he has a temper...anyone else have an opinion on him?
They all do  ::MonkeyEek::  I know one or two of them have somekind of offenses against animals, or hunting, something like that, because at the time I read about that, I was upset.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Tams on August 30, 2009, 02:13:17 PM
This is my view on the blood, deer and van:

They say there is a little bit of truth in a lie according to the guests on TV shows.

Did Misty see Haleigh as the "deer"?   Is she referring to the blood, deer and van, referring to the child?

Did someone run over Haleigh?  Was Misty was trying to tell the story without committing herself.

It is my opinion the blood, "seeing the deer put into the van", perhaps, was not the deer, instead, possibily the child.

Does anyone remember Casey Anthony's version of the squirrel being scraped off the car?

Good Morning Monkeys!

Wow - what a great post! Many items in there that really got me thinking . . . The highlighted statement I think is especially true, and we should probably keep that in mind, as Misty is clearly piling lie on top of lie. Excellent point.

How very interesting  - your thoughts about the deer - especially given the juxtaposition of the words 'deer' and 'dear'. Made me go "hmmmmmm" . . . and the comparison to Casey Anthony and the squirrel is so powerful. Wow.

Following you out of the box, then - expanding on your thoughts a bit - what if there really was a deer, which means they had been hunting, right? Dick Cheney surely showed us all that hunting accidents CAN happen! A gun misfire, Haleigh running into line of fire, one of those hillbillies thinking they would teach Haleigh how to fire a gun . . . all perhaps scenarios of a hunting accident?

So much to think about!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 30, 2009, 02:20:01 PM
That's all very interesting, I will say that deer story and the blood in the van just popped out of nowhere. One thing that stuck out to me was the deer in the van, I'm going to guess that deer was in there, because he illegally killed it, I see no other reason to have a bleeding, dead deer in the van. Most hunters that I have been familiar with when younger and growing up where hunting season happened the dead deer was tied down on the car  ::MonkeyEek:: I still have nightmares about that.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Tams on August 30, 2009, 02:22:55 PM
I was just getting ready for work and thinking about what Misty said in her tests about the fact that when she was first laying down to go to sleep, that Jr. crawled over her and headed for the bathroom door, she said she didnt pay it asny mind and just went on to sleep because he did this sometimes,  now I wonder, just how long did Jr. stay up? did he open the door and let someone in?  was Haleigh gone when he came back to bed?
  I can see where the LE is having problems with all this, Misty seems to be throwing so much other stuff in that has to be answered and throw suspition in other directions, like why did she have to wash her blanket if only Haleighs smelled like pee? why wait until that late at night to wash them? Did her brother come inside the house while she stayed outside with the kids, maybe to use the bathroom and he unlocked that backdoor, knowing that Misty would be out later and he could come back in? Why did he come over there to begin with, for money? to bring her drugs? to tell her where she could get drugs? or just a brotherly visit?  Why did the cousin Joe want to leave as soon as all this happened, or was he already planning on leaving anyway? And just who scratched up that darn van, is it just a coinsident that it happened on this same night or was it used to make HaLeigh dissapear?

This story is really too far fetched and with so many roads leading off to no where no wonder this case is taking forever to solve!

Wow - so many great thoughts this morning! Both of the above scenarios (highlighted by me) involving brother Hank are extremely interesting indeed . . . and, agreed - the scratched van is just weighing awfully heavily here, isn't it? Don't think we should ignore that tidbit . . .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 30, 2009, 02:24:51 PM
The van scratches, and those darn blankets  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Tams on August 30, 2009, 02:30:23 PM
I think that Hank C., Misty's dad looks a bit shady and like he has a temper...anyone else have an opinion on him?

Refresh me, Cookie - was he the lovely gentleman who sat through a scheduled interview in his home with sunglasses, no shirt on, and scratching himself? Bleckkk.

Who in the he!! lets their daughter drop out of school in the 7th grade in this, the 21st century America? I have absolutely NO respect for any parent who does that. JMHO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Tams on August 30, 2009, 02:33:07 PM
The van scratches, and those darn blankets  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyConfused::

Yes ma'am! Exactly.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 30, 2009, 02:35:49 PM
snip from NRCG:

I will have to agree with you. And one other thing, that I don't want anyone to take the wrong way, because it is a terrible and serious topic. But I really wonder if Misty was abused by any family member? Is she just saying this for sympathy, or to get family members in trouble. It would be horrific either way, if it really happened, or she is making it all up. I just don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth.

Rosie...I have said this same thing before today, that I was skeptical if her allegations were even true....my one question that I asked in the past was if her cousin Joe had really molested her in the past, why is she and the family still friendly with him? IIRC,  supposedly he had even visited her the evening that Haleigh went missing...now if someone in the past had "messed" with you...would you allow them into your home when you are there alone with 2 little kids? I don't believe anything that she might say if it was to her advantage to lie..
I almost posted what you said today myself...minds thinking alike and all that heh?

Hello monkeys!

Well, then - that makes 3 of us all thinking the same thing, then . . . I have found myself wondering the same, but feeling perhaps a bit guilty for thinking it - somehow it doesn't sit right to say one doesn't believe a rape victim, does it? But it makes absolutely NO sense to me that she would maintain ties with her attackers if it were true - no way! And like you both said: she had Joe over at her house with the kids there, and Hank says he saw the kids pretty much daily . . . I don't think so. Interesting how the list keeps growing of those who have "messed with her" . . . constant excuses for the mess that is her life . .  . just like all of her other lies keep accumulating as she tries to dig herself out of this giant mess she has gotten herself into. She may be "street smart", but she is emotionally VERY immature. (Her emotional maturity and education levels are probably very similar, IMO).

4 ::MonkeyTongue:: I posted about it earlier today myself.........she wants us to believe she's been molested by 3 different people ::MonkeyDevil2:: So not buying it. My son was a victim at age three as most know, and I was told by the psychologist and rape crisis center that he would have a very strong intuition about people who "aren't right" IYKWIM and he has a very heightened sense of aawareness and is super cautious.

Well I for one will not jump out there and say that she is lying.  That dysfunctional drug infested family, I would not put it pass them.

I worked with a woman that had been molested by two different stepfathers and an uncle when she was a young girl. She  had no choice but to continue to be around them, because when she informed her mother about one of them, her mother did not believe her and became upset with her.

I wonder just why Misty was not sent, made to go to school.

Everyone does not react or respond the same. Everyone does not have the state of mind to seek assistance of a psychologist and rape crisis center.


Mothers of incest survivors: another side of the story - Google Books Result


of family dysfunction that is handed down from one generation to the next, ... Diane was molested by an uncle and an older brother but said she chose to

http://books.google.com/books?id=Y8hC2sqbsDwC&pg=PA83&lpg=PA83&dq=family+dysfunction+and+molestation&source=bl&ots=xUpVD6IOTM&sig=eWtn2TYzVeB0l9dqz88iskJ_wIs&hl=en&ei=6gGaSujaD6rxnQecwfmVCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Well, I AM the mother of an incest victim..............and he is hypersensitive to men and I was told by everyone I spoke with over those 3yrs of hell if he would be more suseptible to this now and their statement s were absolutely not, he would be more aware and proetective of himself and that has shown to be true for the past 6 yrs.

As well as I am the mother of a son that endured a brutal rape when he was 3 and the specialists he went to told me that children at that age forget the act after time if it is not being talked about constantly, They heal and they grow and forget,and as brutal as his was,he did forget until a family member mentioned it in front of him and little bits have been coming back to him unfortunately. I was the one that had the difficulties forgetting and getting over the over whelming need to castrate someone.

I also am an incest survivor myself,who had parents that would not believe what my 2 brothers were doing,even though we were ran out of a town because they did the same to 2 little girls from an childrens home that butted up to the woods. My mother called me terrible names for a 5 year old to hear,my father well, he did the same,called me names and hit me for the smallest things. I ended up finally spending some of my teen years in foster care. I ended up being the one reporting one of those brothers  missing for my father as an adult,and handling that for dad. I was sent back home 5 times because CPS was told my brothers no longer lived in the home, well, they did. Today, people can talk to me, see me and never know what I have been through,but that does not make it any less real. I have just forgiven and moved on in life,as has my son and you can not tell he went through what he did either. He is a normal outgoing 20 year old married man.If not for his health issue, he would be out having a great time meeting people,how ever, he is not able to at this time, but before he started having this problem, he did meet knew people and was in marching band , played the sax and had many many friends.

What I am trying to say is please do not discount that Misty was molested,you can not tell by looking at a person and hearing a tape. We do not wear tags saying we were victims so you can not just look and say someone is lying.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 30, 2009, 02:38:59 PM
I think that Hank C., Misty's dad looks a bit shady and like he has a temper...anyone else have an opinion on him?

Refresh me, Cookie - was he the lovely gentleman who sat through a scheduled interview in his home with sunglasses, no shirt on, and scratching himself? Bleckkk.

Who in the he!! lets their daughter drop out of school in the 7th grade in this, the 21st century America? I have absolutely NO respect for any parent who does that. JMHO.
All I can say is I don't know  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 30, 2009, 02:40:35 PM
I think that Hank C., Misty's dad looks a bit shady and like he has a temper...anyone else have an opinion on him?

Refresh me, Cookie - was he the lovely gentleman who sat through a scheduled interview in his home with sunglasses, no shirt on, and scratching himself? Bleckkk.

Who in the he!! lets their daughter drop out of school in the 7th grade in this, the 21st century America? I have absolutely NO respect for any parent who does that. JMHO.

errr Tams, my parents did, in the seventh grade as a matter of fact, I went back and dropped back out at the end of eighth grade.
I obtained my GED and have some college experience as well.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Tams on August 30, 2009, 02:44:32 PM
Please forgive my ignorance. monkeys - but I am a bit confused about something . . .    :smt100

Misty has 2 brothers - Tommy and Hank Jr.? I know Hank Jr. was the one involved in the fight, who Misty supposedly called for help. But which one was taken in for questioning yesterday? I saw the video with Hank Jr. whining that he didn't know why Misty is accusing him, he sees the kids every day, he's only tried to help his sister, etc. But I keep reading the name 'Tommy' in reports as well. . . And which one owns the van? Ugh - sorry . . . TIA.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 30, 2009, 02:45:51 PM
I am very sorry for what you and your son endured  ::MonkeyAngel:: I don't know anything really on this subject, I brought it up, rather as another way to look at it. I have no idea if Misty was sexually abused by a brother and cousin, but if she was not I also would hate for someone to look at both of them as molesters, and treat them differently because of it. It is probably rare, but some people do lie and say horrible things like that to ruin another's reputation, and to me that is very wrong. But again, I don't know about Misty, but what I do see is a girl that has had one heck of a bad time growing up, and for that I don't like to see that with anyone. Maybe her parents if they cared for her more would have pushed for at least a high school graduation, I do believe that Misty latched on to Ron for a roof over her head, food, and other various things.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 30, 2009, 02:47:26 PM
Please forgive my ignorance. monkeys - but I am a bit confused about something . . .    :smt100

Misty has 2 brothers - Tommy and Hank Jr.? I know Hank Jr. was the one involved in the fight, who Misty supposedly called for help. But which one was taken in for questioning yesterday? I saw the video with Hank Jr. whining that he didn't know why Misty is accusing him, he sees the kids every day, he's only tried to help his sister, etc. But I keep reading the name 'Tommy' in reports as well. . . And which one owns the van? Ugh - sorry . . . TIA.
Tommy is Hank Jr. Timmy is the other brother that lives further away. I think Tommy/Hank Jr owns the van and was letting Timmy and his wife borrow it  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 30, 2009, 02:51:19 PM
I am very sorry for what you and your son endured  ::MonkeyAngel:: I don't know anything really on this subject, I brought it up, rather as another way to look at it. I have no idea if Misty was sexually abused by a brother and cousin, but if she was not I also would hate for someone to look at both of them as molesters, and treat them differently because of it. It is probably rare, but some people do lie and say horrible things like that to ruin another's reputation, and to me that is very wrong. But again, I don't know about Misty, but what I do see is a girl that has had one heck of a bad time growing up, and for that I don't like to see that with anyone. Maybe her parents if they cared for her more would have pushed for at least a high school graduation, I do believe that Misty latched on to Ron for a roof over her head, food, and other various things.

I think she latched on to Ron to get away from her family... JMO. When you are in a bad situation (home life) young and not really taught much of anything, sometimes you do go from a bad situation(home) to worse, just to get away from the family you love that betrayed you. Make sense?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 30, 2009, 02:54:11 PM
I am very sorry for what you and your son endured  ::MonkeyAngel:: I don't know anything really on this subject, I brought it up, rather as another way to look at it. I have no idea if Misty was sexually abused by a brother and cousin, but if she was not I also would hate for someone to look at both of them as molesters, and treat them differently because of it. It is probably rare, but some people do lie and say horrible things like that to ruin another's reputation, and to me that is very wrong. But again, I don't know about Misty, but what I do see is a girl that has had one heck of a bad time growing up, and for that I don't like to see that with anyone. Maybe her parents if they cared for her more would have pushed for at least a high school graduation, I do believe that Misty latched on to Ron for a roof over her head, food, and other various things.

I think she latched on to Ron to get away from her family... JMO. When you are in a bad situation (home life) young and not really taught much of anything, sometimes you do go from a bad situation(home) to worse, just to get away from the family you love that betrayed you. Make sense?
Makes sense, and it is very sad to me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Tams on August 30, 2009, 03:00:54 PM
I think that Hank C., Misty's dad looks a bit shady and like he has a temper...anyone else have an opinion on him?

Refresh me, Cookie - was he the lovely gentleman who sat through a scheduled interview in his home with sunglasses, no shirt on, and scratching himself? Bleckkk.

Who in the he!! lets their daughter drop out of school in the 7th grade in this, the 21st century America? I have absolutely NO respect for any parent who does that. JMHO.

errr Tams, my parents did, in the seventh grade as a matter of fact, I went back and dropped back out at the end of eighth grade.
I obtained my GED and have some college experience as well.

Wow, Searching - I did not know that. I apologize profusely if I offended you in any way - was absolutely NOT my intention. And I admire you for going back and completing your education. What a great example you set for kids like Misty.

I just know with Misty, she left school just 5 years ago - that would have been 2004-ish. It is so had for me to fathom that happening in our country today.

Most of the monkeys that I have conversed with here are parents of older/grown children or grandparents even - so I guess that I just take for granted that everyone here is 'over 40' - LOL.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Tams on August 30, 2009, 03:12:43 PM
As well as I am the mother of a son that endured a brutal rape when he was 3 and the specialists he went to told me that children at that age forget the act after time if it is not being talked about constantly, They heal and they grow and forget,and as brutal as his was,he did forget until a family member mentioned it in front of him and little bits have been coming back to him unfortunately. I was the one that had the difficulties forgetting and getting over the over whelming need to castrate someone.

I also am an incest survivor myself,who had parents that would not believe what my 2 brothers were doing,even though we were ran out of a town because they did the same to 2 little girls from an childrens home that butted up to the woods. My mother called me terrible names for a 5 year old to hear,my father well, he did the same,called me names and hit me for the smallest things. I ended up finally spending some of my teen years in foster care. I ended up being the one reporting one of those brothers  missing for my father as an adult,and handling that for dad. I was sent back home 5 times because CPS was told my brothers no longer lived in the home, well, they did. Today, people can talk to me, see me and never know what I have been through,but that does not make it any less real. I have just forgiven and moved on in life,as has my son and you can not tell he went through what he did either. He is a normal outgoing 20 year old married man.If not for his health issue, he would be out having a great time meeting people,how ever, he is not able to at this time, but before he started having this problem, he did meet knew people and was in marching band , played the sax and had many many friends.

What I am trying to say is please do not discount that Misty was molested,you can not tell by looking at a person and hearing a tape. We do not wear tags saying we were victims so you can not just look and say someone is lying.

Searching - I had not seen that you had posted even earlier - am just now finding this.

I am so very sorry for what you have had to endure in your life. No one should have to live through such horrors - and that is surely what brings so many of us to these boards - wanting to help and put an end to it. I do admire you tremendously, not only for completing your education, but now I also know for making it through such a difficult life. Your insight can surely help to shed a very real light on so many of these cases because of your life experiences. Thank you for sharing where you are coming from - that took a lot of courage. I post this with great respect.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on August 30, 2009, 03:14:55 PM
I thought that Misty's brothers were ok boys. I don't recall either one of them having records. Hank Jr. works the drywalling business with his dad and Tommy seemed like a young guy who was in love with his wife and kids.
Maybe not the best educated, but compared to Ron, they seemed like good boys.
There was Ms. Neves's brother who looked like a scary dude ( to me )but he had just hunting violations, which up here and in Satsuma are not the crimes of the century.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on August 30, 2009, 03:15:22 PM
I am very sorry for what you and your son endured  ::MonkeyAngel:: I don't know anything really on this subject, I brought it up, rather as another way to look at it. I have no idea if Misty was sexually abused by a brother and cousin, but if she was not I also would hate for someone to look at both of them as molesters, and treat them differently because of it. It is probably rare, but some people do lie and say horrible things like that to ruin another's reputation, and to me that is very wrong. But again, I don't know about Misty, but what I do see is a girl that has had one heck of a bad time growing up, and for that I don't like to see that with anyone. Maybe her parents if they cared for her more would have pushed for at least a high school graduation, I do believe that Misty latched on to Ron for a roof over her head, food, and other various things.

I think she latched on to Ron to get away from her family... JMO. When you are in a bad situation (home life) young and not really taught much of anything, sometimes you do go from a bad situation(home) to worse, just to get away from the family you love that betrayed you. Make sense?

Perfect sense, Searching.  {{HUGS!}}


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 30, 2009, 03:26:23 PM
I think that Hank C., Misty's dad looks a bit shady and like he has a temper...anyone else have an opinion on him?

Refresh me, Cookie - was he the lovely gentleman who sat through a scheduled interview in his home with sunglasses, no shirt on, and scratching himself? Bleckkk.

Who in the he!! lets their daughter drop out of school in the 7th grade in this, the 21st century America? I have absolutely NO respect for any parent who does that. JMHO.

errr Tams, my parents did, in the seventh grade as a matter of fact, I went back and dropped back out at the end of eighth grade.
I obtained my GED and have some college experience as well.

Wow, Searching - I did not know that. I apologize profusely if I offended you in any way - was absolutely NOT my intention. And I admire you for going back and completing your education. What a great example you set for kids like Misty.

I just know with Misty, she left school just 5 years ago - that would have been 2004-ish. It is so had for me to fathom that happening in our country today.

Most of the monkeys that I have conversed with here are parents of older/grown children or grandparents even - so I guess that I just take for granted that everyone here is 'over 40' - LOL.

Tams, I am not offended at all.I am not sure how long you have been here, but I have told my history before and am not embarrassed by it . I am not over 40, but I am a grand mother, I had my first child when I was 14, she was a product of rape, but very very much loved ( she was an innocent baby,not her fault)and is a college graduate herself with 2 daughters and has already bought her own home. I have had many struggles through out my life, abusive relationships and all, mostly trying to get out of a bad situation, only to jump into worse. I was hidden in an crawlspace under a house by a 25 year old man when I was 12,kept there for a year plus, until I managed to sneak and use a phone a couple of times while he was out of the house ,and a call was traced finally . I heard a car drive up and thought it was him, so went back in the hole and shut the door, heard the thud of the front door and thought he was going to kill me, it was the police, they found me because of the dust that had come up through the cracks, they opened the door slowly and said who they were, I came out and cried and well, things are a whirl, but I did go through therapy, he went to jail, plead the case out as the prosecutor did not want me to have to face him again. and many many more things I could tell you about. Sometimes a persons life story seems so horrid that you can not believe it is true, but at times it is true. Granted, people do make up stories but something in those of us who have lived in the horrors can see through those who are making it up most of the time. I can not say for sure if Misty is telling the truth about her horrors,but I kind of feel like she is, I can not tell for sure by watching a tv screen though. I would know if I sat and talked with her though.but I have not, so I can not say for sure.


 My son dropped out at age 16, but here where I am at, they legally can and we can not make them go. The schools tell the teens this also. I was not happy about it and I talked to him for days trying to prevent it, he still did it and now regrets it and wishes he could go back.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 30, 2009, 03:27:36 PM
I am very sorry for what you and your son endured  ::MonkeyAngel:: I don't know anything really on this subject, I brought it up, rather as another way to look at it. I have no idea if Misty was sexually abused by a brother and cousin, but if she was not I also would hate for someone to look at both of them as molesters, and treat them differently because of it. It is probably rare, but some people do lie and say horrible things like that to ruin another's reputation, and to me that is very wrong. But again, I don't know about Misty, but what I do see is a girl that has had one heck of a bad time growing up, and for that I don't like to see that with anyone. Maybe her parents if they cared for her more would have pushed for at least a high school graduation, I do believe that Misty latched on to Ron for a roof over her head, food, and other various things.

I think she latched on to Ron to get away from her family... JMO. When you are in a bad situation (home life) young and not really taught much of anything, sometimes you do go from a bad situation(home) to worse, just to get away from the family you love that betrayed you. Make sense?

Perfect sense, Searching.  {{HUGS!}}

Hi CBB, (((HUGS))) back, and thanks, I needed that.  :)   Good to see you here.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 30, 2009, 03:28:43 PM


snip from NRCG:

I will have to agree with you. And one other thing, that I don't want anyone to take the wrong way, because it is a terrible and serious topic. But I really wonder if Misty was abused by any family member? Is she just saying this for sympathy, or to get family members in trouble. It would be horrific either way, if it really happened, or she is making it all up. I just don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth.

Rosie...I have said this same thing before today, that I was skeptical if her allegations were even true....my one question that I asked in the past was if her cousin Joe had really molested her in the past, why is she and the family still friendly with him? IIRC,  supposedly he had even visited her the evening that Haleigh went missing...now if someone in the past had "messed" with you...would you allow them into your home when you are there alone with 2 little kids? I don't believe anything that she might say if it was to her advantage to lie..
I almost posted what you said today myself...minds thinking alike and all that heh?

Hello monkeys!

Well, then - that makes 3 of us all thinking the same thing, then . . . I have found myself wondering the same, but feeling perhaps a bit guilty for thinking it - somehow it doesn't sit right to say one doesn't believe a rape victim, does it? But it makes absolutely NO sense to me that she would maintain ties with her attackers if it were true - no way! And like you both said: she had Joe over at her house with the kids there, and Hank says he saw the kids pretty much daily . . . I don't think so. Interesting how the list keeps growing of those who have "messed with her" . . . constant excuses for the mess that is her life . .  . just like all of her other lies keep accumulating as she tries to dig herself out of this giant mess she has gotten herself into. She may be "street smart", but she is emotionally VERY immature. (Her emotional maturity and education levels are probably very similar, IMO).

4 ::MonkeyTongue:: I posted about it earlier today myself.........she wants us to believe she's been molested by 3 different people ::MonkeyDevil2:: So not buying it. My son was a victim at age three as most know, and I was told by the psychologist and rape crisis center that he would have a very strong intuition about people who "aren't right" IYKWIM and he has a very heightened sense of aawareness and is super cautious.

Well I for one will not jump out there and say that she is lying.  That dysfunctional drug infested family, I would not put it pass them.

I worked with a woman that had been molested by two different stepfathers and an uncle when she was a young girl. She  had no choice but to continue to be around them, because when she informed her mother about one of them, her mother did not believe her and became upset with her.

I wonder just why Misty was not sent, made to go to school.

Everyone does not react or respond the same. Everyone does not have the state of mind to seek assistance of a psychologist and rape crisis center.


Mothers of incest survivors: another side of the story - Google Books Result


of family dysfunction that is handed down from one generation to the next, ... Diane was molested by an uncle and an older brother but said she chose to

http://books.google.com/books?id=Y8hC2sqbsDwC&pg=PA83&lpg=PA83&dq=family+dysfunction+and+molestation&source=bl&ots=xUpVD6IOTM&sig=eWtn2TYzVeB0l9dqz88iskJ_wIs&hl=en&ei=6gGaSujaD6rxnQecwfmVCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Well, I AM the mother of an incest victim..............and he is hypersensitive to men and I was told by everyone I spoke with over those 3yrs of hell if he would be more suseptible to this now and their statement s were absolutely not, he would be more aware and proetective of himself and that has shown to be true for the past 6 yrs.

As well as I am the mother of a son that endured a brutal rape when he was 3 and the specialists he went to told me that children at that age forget the act after time if it is not being talked about constantly, They heal and they grow and forget,and as brutal as his was,he did forget until a family member mentioned it in front of him and little bits have been coming back to him unfortunately. I was the one that had the difficulties forgetting and getting over the over whelming need to castrate someone.

I also am an incest survivor myself,who had parents that would not believe what my 2 brothers were doing,even though we were ran out of a town because they did the same to 2 little girls from an childrens home that butted up to the woods. My mother called me terrible names for a 5 year old to hear,my father well, he did the same,called me names and hit me for the smallest things. I ended up finally spending some of my teen years in foster care. I ended up being the one reporting one of those brothers  missing for my father as an adult,and handling that for dad. I was sent back home 5 times because CPS was told my brothers no longer lived in the home, well, they did. Today, people can talk to me, see me and never know what I have been through,but that does not make it any less real. I have just forgiven and moved on in life,as has my son and you can not tell he went through what he did either. He is a normal outgoing 20 year old married man.If not for his health issue, he would be out having a great time meeting people,how ever, he is not able to at this time, but before he started having this problem, he did meet knew people and was in marching band , played the sax and had many many friends.

What I am trying to say is please do not discount that Misty was molested,you can not tell by looking at a person and hearing a tape. We do not wear tags saying we were victims so you can not just look and say someone is lying.


Searching~I'm so sorry for what you and your son endured, however thru 6 yrs of my going to counseling with other family members of molestation, 3 different pyschologist, children's advocates, and the rape crisis center wher I aske if he would forget (I was praying he would), I was told emphatically no, and not one member of my support groups I've attended had a child that forgot. It's possible many may block it to try and protect themselves from the awful memories or they might even try to dissasociate from it, but to forget, no way (I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Many do move past it to lead productive lives and it seems my son is on that path thank God. We NEVER talk about it ever unless he brings it up himself (I'd prefer to never talk about it as it enrages me to a point that I can't even express). I would not usually discount anyone who speaks about their victimization, however it seems Misty is frankly NOT believable IMO, if she had brought this info forward in the beginning about all 3 cases I MIGHT believe her, yet she has proven to be a liar so it makes it truly difficult to cull out the truth from fiction  when it comes to Misty. I had this article bookmarked for quite a while about abuse victims and thought I'd share:

Victims of Sexual Abuse

Rosenberg and Associate


It is very important that when a victim of sexual abuse comes forth and reports the crime to family, friends, law enforcement, and others, that he or she be listened to in the most sincere fashion possible. Studies have shown that the most credible account of what occurred during a rape or child molestation comes from the victim him/herself. Studies suggest that approximately 3-5% of all rape or child molestation allegations that are reported are false...Therefore, nearly 95% are based on a factual incident. When a victim comes forth and reports the crime, there will almost undoubtedly be two sides to the story: the victim's disclosure and the offender's. It is important to remember that the offender will most likely find people to support his/her story. This is a part of the offender's mode of operation--to have a planned out alibi with people to support it. When the victim is related to the offender, a sharp divide may consume the family system, with some family members supporting the alleged offender's story and others supporting the victim's. This divide not only serves to facilitate familial dysfunction, but also can severely traumatize the victim and create a very strong perception of shame and guilt for reporting.

There are thousands of victims of sexual abuse that never come forward and report the crime. This may be due to a number of factors. First, the grooming technique an offender uses can make the victim feel as if he or she was an active participant in the abuse itself. If the victim feels this way, they may not report the crime because they may feel responsible in some way. A rape victim may not report the crime out of fear, since many rapists will tell the victim that if they disclose the crime, he will return (however, very few rapists actually do). The victim of sexual abuse may be very aware that people may doubt his/her disclosure, their character, their choices, and because of this perception, they may not disclose. This would be considered the community reaction to the crime, and it includes boyfriends/husbands, the police, neighbors, family, the court, etc.

There are still numerous people in our society that feel that rape is justified under certain conditions. Many people believe that a prostitute "cannot" be raped. Just imagine if a prostitute entered a police station and reported that she had just been raped. If the police are aware that she is a prostitute, how might they react? Moreover, maybe the woman chooses not to tell the officers that she is a prostitute. How would she relate the dynamics of the crime? How would the police react when they discover she is a prostitute?

In an American Medical Association study, over half of the 6000 teenagers stated that there were some circumstances under which rape is acceptable, such as if the male and female had dated six months or longer or if he'd spent considerable money on her.

Much of the psychological damage a victim receives comes not from the assault itself, but from the post assault reactions from others. It is very important that police investigators and prosecutors recognize how their behavior with the victim affects not only the immediate and long-term ability to deal with the incident, but also his or her willingness to assist in a prosecution. Recognizing this fact, the first people who come in contact with a victim post assault have an opportunity to set the stage, through their behavior and reactions, for an easier or more difficult recovery for the victim.

It is important to understand that there is no single, standard, or "appropriate" victim response to rape or molestation. There would be two general response types that many victims follow: expressive or guarded. Some victims will be very verbal, be in tears, and be angry, and so forth following the offense. Others will be guarded, quiet, attempt to go on. Some victims may switch back and forth from being expressive to guarded.

When a sexual assault occurs, there are numerous victims that are produced. Obviously, there is the primary victim--the one in which the assault was directly targeted to. There are many other secondary victims. The children of the victim, husband, and other family members. They will all grieve in their own way, and it is important for professionals to assist everyone involved.

Investigators, juries, judges, prosecutors, and everyone else must understand that rape victims, immediately following the assault, may not react with all of their normal faculties. When someone suffers a traumatic event, it may take a while for your head to clear and your heart rate to return to normal. For sexual assault victims, this temporary detachment may result in delays in reporting...Which can also hinder a successful prosecution. If there is a delay in reporting the assault, it is imperative that investigators and prosecutors do not berate her, or challenge her for not reporting immediately. Instead, they should recognize the courage it takes to report a crime of this nature (and to survive such crimes), and no one should ever second-guess the victim’s tactics in handling the crisis.

Many victims of sexual abuse do fully recover. This is not to suggest that they ever forget about what occurred, because they do not. However, they can, with the help of family, friends, and professionals, go on with their lives and be happy again.  
Victims of Child Molestation

Being sexually abused as a child or as a teenager can have a wide-range of both short and long-term effects. Many times, the offenders will try and use the following line in their defense, "if I really sexually abused him/her, why did she still want to play with me?". I will also be told from family members of offenders that the alleged victim and offender are very close and have a good relationship. These dynamics can be very confusing (especially for the victim) for mental health professionals, law enforcement, judges, and prosecutors. How can a child be sexually abused by someone close to him/her, yet still want to "play" with that person, or have a relationship with that person?

The reason this may occur is due to what we call grooming, or the method the offender used to have the victim comply with his or her wishes. For instance, if the offender was very nice to the victim prior to the offending, bought gifts, or gave special attention to the victim, the child victim would naturally yearn for such behaviors or items. Just as important, however, is the fact that the victim may be a close relative to the offender, and truly does not want the offender to leave (especially if this is in conjunction with gifts and attention); however, this does not mean the victim wants the abuse to continue.

Many people erroneously believe that child victims of sexual abuse are always traumatized by the abuse, and overtly angry with the offender. Sometimes this could not be farther from the truth. I have worked with both adult men and women who have been sexually abused as children, who state that they were not traumatized, nor did they want the offender to be incarcerated. Did the sexual abuse affect them? Of course, just not in a traumatic way. The abuse may have affected their boundaries, sexual interests and behaviors, trust, and sexual orientation; however, it did not traumatize them. What may traumatize them, however, is the reaction from others. For instance, if the child and offender were caught by the child's mother, and the mother, rightfully so, goes ballistic. Within minutes the police arrive and take the child away. In a few hours, the child is being interviewed by child protective service workers, who may be acting like something traumatic happened. The child will then interpret the entire situation as traumatic, even if the child did not interpret the abuse, at the time, as traumatic.

A very high degree of psychological damage can occur if the offender makes the victim feel physical pleasure during the offense(s). This will produce a level of guilt and shame that is very powerful. Moreover, the victim is less likely to disclose the abuse, and if he or she does, they are very likely to minimize it. This would be because the victim may feel partly to blame for the abuse because they experienced pleasure (this is a grooming technique). I have treated countless victims who, after the abuse was revealed (either through someone observing, or indirectly), did not disclose the full extent. They fear they will get in trouble for not telling themselves, and fear and shame because they experienced physical pleasure. As the victims grow older, they may be unable to process the abuse, and continue to blame both themselves as well as the offender. The shame produced can be so intense as to create suicidal ideation, a loss of "self", and self-destructive behaviors.

Victims of child sexual abuse can go on to lead normal, healthy lives. They can learn to let go of the pain, and to increase their self-awareness of how the abuse affected them. Sometimes it takes the right therapist, just the right book, or even just time.

Return to The American Academy of Experts in Traumatic Stress Homepage

Rosenberg and Associates can be reached at www.angelfire.com/mi/collateral/victims.html.
 
 

 

http://www.aaets.org/article123.htm


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 30, 2009, 03:35:00 PM
I thought that Misty's brothers were ok boys. I don't recall either one of them having records. Hank Jr. works the drywalling business with his dad and Tommy seemed like a young guy who was in love with his wife and kids.
Maybe not the best educated, but compared to Ron, they seemed like good boys.
There was Ms. Neves's brother who looked like a scary dude ( to me )but he had just hunting violations, which up here and in Satsuma are not the crimes of the century.
Well thanks, so it was Teresa's brother who had hunting violations, I knew it was someone  ::MonkeyConfused:: Am I dreaming, because dog fighting is in the back of my head, or somekind of cruelty to animals, I'm losing it, I though it was either Hank or Hank Jr.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Tams on August 30, 2009, 03:39:57 PM
I think that Hank C., Misty's dad looks a bit shady and like he has a temper...anyone else have an opinion on him?

Refresh me, Cookie - was he the lovely gentleman who sat through a scheduled interview in his home with sunglasses, no shirt on, and scratching himself? Bleckkk.

Who in the he!! lets their daughter drop out of school in the 7th grade in this, the 21st century America? I have absolutely NO respect for any parent who does that. JMHO.

errr Tams, my parents did, in the seventh grade as a matter of fact, I went back and dropped back out at the end of eighth grade.
I obtained my GED and have some college experience as well.

Wow, Searching - I did not know that. I apologize profusely if I offended you in any way - was absolutely NOT my intention. And I admire you for going back and completing your education. What a great example you set for kids like Misty.

I just know with Misty, she left school just 5 years ago - that would have been 2004-ish. It is so had for me to fathom that happening in our country today.

Most of the monkeys that I have conversed with here are parents of older/grown children or grandparents even - so I guess that I just take for granted that everyone here is 'over 40' - LOL.

Tams, I am not offended at all.I am not sure how long you have been here, but I have told my history before and am not embarrassed by it . I am not over 40, but I am a grand mother, I had my first child when I was 14, she was a product of rape, but very very much loved ( she was an innocent baby,not her fault)and is a college graduate herself with 2 daughters and has already bought her own home. I have had many struggles through out my life, abusive relationships and all, mostly trying to get out of a bad situation, only to jump into worse. I was hidden in an crawlspace under a house by a 25 year old man when I was 12,kept there for a year plus, until I managed to sneak and use a phone a couple of times while he was out of the house ,and a call was traced finally . I heard a car drive up and thought it was him, so went back in the hole and shut the door, heard the thud of the front door and thought he was going to kill me, it was the police, they found me because of the dust that had come up through the cracks, they opened the door slowly and said who they were, I came out and cried and well, things are a whirl, but I did go through therapy, he went to jail, plead the case out as the prosecutor did not want me to have to face him again. and many many more things I could tell you about. Sometimes a persons life story seems so horrid that you can not believe it is true, but at times it is true. Granted, people do make up stories but something in those of us who have lived in the horrors can see through those who are making it up most of the time. I can not say for sure if Misty is telling the truth about her horrors,but I kind of feel like she is, I can not tell for sure by watching a tv screen though. I would know if I sat and talked with her though.but I have not, so I can not say for sure.


 My son dropped out at age 16, but here where I am at, they legally can and we can not make them go. The schools tell the teens this also. I was not happy about it and I talked to him for days trying to prevent it, he still did it and now regrets it and wishes he could go back.

Searching, I do not even know what to say.

Yes, I am a newbie of sorts - Sandra Cantu brought me here, as I live close to Tracy CA., and travel there often for my work. We posted her 'Missing' fliers in our store windows there.

No, I did not know your story. I hear stories such as yours, and realize what an easy, charmed life I have had - and how much I need to realize how lucky I am. The bumps in my life are so trivial compared to what those such as yourself have endured. Your perspective here is invaluable.

I am off to work; I leave and start my work day humbled by your courage and perserverance.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 30, 2009, 03:42:25 PM
As well as I am the mother of a son that endured a brutal rape when he was 3 and the specialists he went to told me that children at that age forget the act after time if it is not being talked about constantly, They heal and they grow and forget,and as brutal as his was,he did forget until a family member mentioned it in front of him and little bits have been coming back to him unfortunately. I was the one that had the difficulties forgetting and getting over the over whelming need to castrate someone.

I also am an incest survivor myself,who had parents that would not believe what my 2 brothers were doing,even though we were ran out of a town because they did the same to 2 little girls from an childrens home that butted up to the woods. My mother called me terrible names for a 5 year old to hear,my father well, he did the same,called me names and hit me for the smallest things. I ended up finally spending some of my teen years in foster care. I ended up being the one reporting one of those brothers  missing for my father as an adult,and handling that for dad. I was sent back home 5 times because CPS was told my brothers no longer lived in the home, well, they did. Today, people can talk to me, see me and never know what I have been through,but that does not make it any less real. I have just forgiven and moved on in life,as has my son and you can not tell he went through what he did either. He is a normal outgoing 20 year old married man.If not for his health issue, he would be out having a great time meeting people,how ever, he is not able to at this time, but before he started having this problem, he did meet knew people and was in marching band , played the sax and had many many friends.

What I am trying to say is please do not discount that Misty was molested,you can not tell by looking at a person and hearing a tape. We do not wear tags saying we were victims so you can not just look and say someone is lying.

Searching - I had not seen that you had posted even earlier - am just now finding this.

I am so very sorry for what you have had to endure in your life. No one should have to live through such horrors - and that is surely what brings so many of us to these boards - wanting to help and put an end to it. I do admire you tremendously, not only for completing your education, but now I also know for making it through such a difficult life. Your insight can surely help to shed a very real light on so many of these cases because of your life experiences. Thank you for sharing where you are coming from - that took a lot of courage. I post this with great respect.

Thank you Tams. I am here because I know that though some have not had the misfortune to see it, there are horrors in this world that are hidden for a long time for many reasons. I myself, as a survivor,and with a son who endured his horror, never ever ever discount any person saying they have been abused until it is proven to be false claims. I know how I felt when my parents did not believe me and would never make a victim feel that way.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 30, 2009, 03:42:57 PM
Well, Searching what all you went through, you should be very proud of yourself the way you turned the horrific things that happened into a productive life with children and grandchildren, you are a survivor, and a much stronger person than I could ever be.  ::MonkeyAngel::  Like I said before, I don't know much at all on this topic, but with articles and reading experiences of rape and molestation on this forum my eyes have opened up and my heart goes out to all that have been treated in such a horrible way  ::MonkeyNoNo::  And if Misty was molestated, raped and whatever other horrible things happened, I can't help but feel some sympathy. But at the same time I have great sympathy for Haleigh, and little Jr.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 30, 2009, 03:45:43 PM
snip from NRCG:

I will have to agree with you. And one other thing, that I don't want anyone to take the wrong way, because it is a terrible and serious topic. But I really wonder if Misty was abused by any family member? Is she just saying this for sympathy, or to get family members in trouble. It would be horrific either way, if it really happened, or she is making it all up. I just don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth.

Rosie...I have said this same thing before today, that I was skeptical if her allegations were even true....my one question that I asked in the past was if her cousin Joe had really molested her in the past, why is she and the family still friendly with him? IIRC,  supposedly he had even visited her the evening that Haleigh went missing...now if someone in the past had "messed" with you...would you allow them into your home when you are there alone with 2 little kids? I don't believe anything that she might say if it was to her advantage to lie..
I almost posted what you said today myself...minds thinking alike and all that heh?

Hello monkeys!

Well, then - that makes 3 of us all thinking the same thing, then . . . I have found myself wondering the same, but feeling perhaps a bit guilty for thinking it - somehow it doesn't sit right to say one doesn't believe a rape victim, does it? But it makes absolutely NO sense to me that she would maintain ties with her attackers if it were true - no way! And like you both said: she had Joe over at her house with the kids there, and Hank says he saw the kids pretty much daily . . . I don't think so. Interesting how the list keeps growing of those who have "messed with her" . . . constant excuses for the mess that is her life . .  . just like all of her other lies keep accumulating as she tries to dig herself out of this giant mess she has gotten herself into. She may be "street smart", but she is emotionally VERY immature. (Her emotional maturity and education levels are probably very similar, IMO).
To my understanding, she has a 4th grade education or slightly less.  We are talking about backwoods culture, where even though it's against the law, nonetheless it's not uncommon.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 30, 2009, 03:48:26 PM
IM, that is a very interesting article. And while I read it I wondered how does Jaycee who was held for 18 years, ever go forward from there. I know with therapy I suppose she might be somewhat okay, but I can't grasp how. And her two kids, maybe she will try as hard as possible for them. It is just so hard to understand how one moves forward after such terrible things happen. I'm so glad your son is on the path to a productive life, thanks to you and your family and therapy.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 30, 2009, 03:50:07 PM


snip from NRCG:

I will have to agree with you. And one other thing, that I don't want anyone to take the wrong way, because it is a terrible and serious topic. But I really wonder if Misty was abused by any family member? Is she just saying this for sympathy, or to get family members in trouble. It would be horrific either way, if it really happened, or she is making it all up. I just don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth.

Rosie...I have said this same thing before today, that I was skeptical if her allegations were even true....my one question that I asked in the past was if her cousin Joe had really molested her in the past, why is she and the family still friendly with him? IIRC,  supposedly he had even visited her the evening that Haleigh went missing...now if someone in the past had "messed" with you...would you allow them into your home when you are there alone with 2 little kids? I don't believe anything that she might say if it was to her advantage to lie..
I almost posted what you said today myself...minds thinking alike and all that heh?

Hello monkeys!

Well, then - that makes 3 of us all thinking the same thing, then . . . I have found myself wondering the same, but feeling perhaps a bit guilty for thinking it - somehow it doesn't sit right to say one doesn't believe a rape victim, does it? But it makes absolutely NO sense to me that she would maintain ties with her attackers if it were true - no way! And like you both said: she had Joe over at her house with the kids there, and Hank says he saw the kids pretty much daily . . . I don't think so. Interesting how the list keeps growing of those who have "messed with her" . . . constant excuses for the mess that is her life . .  . just like all of her other lies keep accumulating as she tries to dig herself out of this giant mess she has gotten herself into. She may be "street smart", but she is emotionally VERY immature. (Her emotional maturity and education levels are probably very similar, IMO).

4 ::MonkeyTongue:: I posted about it earlier today myself.........she wants us to believe she's been molested by 3 different people ::MonkeyDevil2:: So not buying it. My son was a victim at age three as most know, and I was told by the psychologist and rape crisis center that he would have a very strong intuition about people who "aren't right" IYKWIM and he has a very heightened sense of aawareness and is super cautious.

Well I for one will not jump out there and say that she is lying.  That dysfunctional drug infested family, I would not put it pass them.

I worked with a woman that had been molested by two different stepfathers and an uncle when she was a young girl. She  had no choice but to continue to be around them, because when she informed her mother about one of them, her mother did not believe her and became upset with her.

I wonder just why Misty was not sent, made to go to school.

Everyone does not react or respond the same. Everyone does not have the state of mind to seek assistance of a psychologist and rape crisis center.


Mothers of incest survivors: another side of the story - Google Books Result


of family dysfunction that is handed down from one generation to the next, ... Diane was molested by an uncle and an older brother but said she chose to

http://books.google.com/books?id=Y8hC2sqbsDwC&pg=PA83&lpg=PA83&dq=family+dysfunction+and+molestation&source=bl&ots=xUpVD6IOTM&sig=eWtn2TYzVeB0l9dqz88iskJ_wIs&hl=en&ei=6gGaSujaD6rxnQecwfmVCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Well, I AM the mother of an incest victim..............and he is hypersensitive to men and I was told by everyone I spoke with over those 3yrs of hell if he would be more suseptible to this now and their statement s were absolutely not, he would be more aware and proetective of himself and that has shown to be true for the past 6 yrs.

As well as I am the mother of a son that endured a brutal rape when he was 3 and the specialists he went to told me that children at that age forget the act after time if it is not being talked about constantly, They heal and they grow and forget,and as brutal as his was,he did forget until a family member mentioned it in front of him and little bits have been coming back to him unfortunately. I was the one that had the difficulties forgetting and getting over the over whelming need to castrate someone.

I also am an incest survivor myself,who had parents that would not believe what my 2 brothers were doing,even though we were ran out of a town because they did the same to 2 little girls from an childrens home that butted up to the woods. My mother called me terrible names for a 5 year old to hear,my father well, he did the same,called me names and hit me for the smallest things. I ended up finally spending some of my teen years in foster care. I ended up being the one reporting one of those brothers  missing for my father as an adult,and handling that for dad. I was sent back home 5 times because CPS was told my brothers no longer lived in the home, well, they did. Today, people can talk to me, see me and never know what I have been through,but that does not make it any less real. I have just forgiven and moved on in life,as has my son and you can not tell he went through what he did either. He is a normal outgoing 20 year old married man.If not for his health issue, he would be out having a great time meeting people,how ever, he is not able to at this time, but before he started having this problem, he did meet knew people and was in marching band , played the sax and had many many friends.

What I am trying to say is please do not discount that Misty was molested,you can not tell by looking at a person and hearing a tape. We do not wear tags saying we were victims so you can not just look and say someone is lying.


Searching~I'm so sorry for what you and your son endured, however thru 6 yrs of my going to counseling with other family members of molestation, 3 different pyschologist, children's advocates, and the rape crisis center wher I aske if he would forget (I was praying he would), I was told emphatically no, and not one member of my support groups I've attended had a child that forgot. It's possible many may block it to try and protect themselves from the awful memories or they might even try to dissasociate from it, but to forget, no way (I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Many do move past it to lead productive lives and it seems my son is on that path thank God. We NEVER talk about it ever unless he brings it up himself (I'd prefer to never talk about it as it enrages me to a point that I can't even express). I would not usually discount anyone who speaks about their victimization, however it seems Misty is frankly NOT believable IMO, if she had brought this info forward in the beginning about all 3 cases I MIGHT believe her, yet she has proven to be a liar so it makes it truly difficult to cull out the truth from fiction  when it comes to Misty. I had this article bookmarked for quite a while about abuse victims and thought I'd share:

Victims of Sexual Abuse

Rosenberg and Associate


It is very important that when a victim of sexual abuse comes forth and reports the crime to family, friends, law enforcement, and others, that he or she be listened to in the most sincere fashion possible. Studies have shown that the most credible account of what occurred during a rape or child molestation comes from the victim him/herself. Studies suggest that approximately 3-5% of all rape or child molestation allegations that are reported are false...Therefore, nearly 95% are based on a factual incident. When a victim comes forth and reports the crime, there will almost undoubtedly be two sides to the story: the victim's disclosure and the offender's. It is important to remember that the offender will most likely find people to support his/her story. This is a part of the offender's mode of operation--to have a planned out alibi with people to support it. When the victim is related to the offender, a sharp divide may consume the family system, with some family members supporting the alleged offender's story and others supporting the victim's. This divide not only serves to facilitate familial dysfunction, but also can severely traumatize the victim and create a very strong perception of shame and guilt for reporting.

There are thousands of victims of sexual abuse that never come forward and report the crime. This may be due to a number of factors. First, the grooming technique an offender uses can make the victim feel as if he or she was an active participant in the abuse itself. If the victim feels this way, they may not report the crime because they may feel responsible in some way. A rape victim may not report the crime out of fear, since many rapists will tell the victim that if they disclose the crime, he will return (however, very few rapists actually do). The victim of sexual abuse may be very aware that people may doubt his/her disclosure, their character, their choices, and because of this perception, they may not disclose. This would be considered the community reaction to the crime, and it includes boyfriends/husbands, the police, neighbors, family, the court, etc.

There are still numerous people in our society that feel that rape is justified under certain conditions. Many people believe that a prostitute "cannot" be raped. Just imagine if a prostitute entered a police station and reported that she had just been raped. If the police are aware that she is a prostitute, how might they react? Moreover, maybe the woman chooses not to tell the officers that she is a prostitute. How would she relate the dynamics of the crime? How would the police react when they discover she is a prostitute?

In an American Medical Association study, over half of the 6000 teenagers stated that there were some circumstances under which rape is acceptable, such as if the male and female had dated six months or longer or if he'd spent considerable money on her.

Much of the psychological damage a victim receives comes not from the assault itself, but from the post assault reactions from others. It is very important that police investigators and prosecutors recognize how their behavior with the victim affects not only the immediate and long-term ability to deal with the incident, but also his or her willingness to assist in a prosecution. Recognizing this fact, the first people who come in contact with a victim post assault have an opportunity to set the stage, through their behavior and reactions, for an easier or more difficult recovery for the victim.

It is important to understand that there is no single, standard, or "appropriate" victim response to rape or molestation. There would be two general response types that many victims follow: expressive or guarded. Some victims will be very verbal, be in tears, and be angry, and so forth following the offense. Others will be guarded, quiet, attempt to go on. Some victims may switch back and forth from being expressive to guarded.

When a sexual assault occurs, there are numerous victims that are produced. Obviously, there is the primary victim--the one in which the assault was directly targeted to. There are many other secondary victims. The children of the victim, husband, and other family members. They will all grieve in their own way, and it is important for professionals to assist everyone involved.

Investigators, juries, judges, prosecutors, and everyone else must understand that rape victims, immediately following the assault, may not react with all of their normal faculties. When someone suffers a traumatic event, it may take a while for your head to clear and your heart rate to return to normal. For sexual assault victims, this temporary detachment may result in delays in reporting...Which can also hinder a successful prosecution. If there is a delay in reporting the assault, it is imperative that investigators and prosecutors do not berate her, or challenge her for not reporting immediately. Instead, they should recognize the courage it takes to report a crime of this nature (and to survive such crimes), and no one should ever second-guess the victim’s tactics in handling the crisis.

Many victims of sexual abuse do fully recover. This is not to suggest that they ever forget about what occurred, because they do not. However, they can, with the help of family, friends, and professionals, go on with their lives and be happy again.  
Victims of Child Molestation

Being sexually abused as a child or as a teenager can have a wide-range of both short and long-term effects. Many times, the offenders will try and use the following line in their defense, "if I really sexually abused him/her, why did she still want to play with me?". I will also be told from family members of offenders that the alleged victim and offender are very close and have a good relationship. These dynamics can be very confusing (especially for the victim) for mental health professionals, law enforcement, judges, and prosecutors. How can a child be sexually abused by someone close to him/her, yet still want to "play" with that person, or have a relationship with that person?

The reason this may occur is due to what we call grooming, or the method the offender used to have the victim comply with his or her wishes. For instance, if the offender was very nice to the victim prior to the offending, bought gifts, or gave special attention to the victim, the child victim would naturally yearn for such behaviors or items. Just as important, however, is the fact that the victim may be a close relative to the offender, and truly does not want the offender to leave (especially if this is in conjunction with gifts and attention); however, this does not mean the victim wants the abuse to continue.

Many people erroneously believe that child victims of sexual abuse are always traumatized by the abuse, and overtly angry with the offender. Sometimes this could not be farther from the truth. I have worked with both adult men and women who have been sexually abused as children, who state that they were not traumatized, nor did they want the offender to be incarcerated. Did the sexual abuse affect them? Of course, just not in a traumatic way. The abuse may have affected their boundaries, sexual interests and behaviors, trust, and sexual orientation; however, it did not traumatize them. What may traumatize them, however, is the reaction from others. For instance, if the child and offender were caught by the child's mother, and the mother, rightfully so, goes ballistic. Within minutes the police arrive and take the child away. In a few hours, the child is being interviewed by child protective service workers, who may be acting like something traumatic happened. The child will then interpret the entire situation as traumatic, even if the child did not interpret the abuse, at the time, as traumatic.

A very high degree of psychological damage can occur if the offender makes the victim feel physical pleasure during the offense(s). This will produce a level of guilt and shame that is very powerful. Moreover, the victim is less likely to disclose the abuse, and if he or she does, they are very likely to minimize it. This would be because the victim may feel partly to blame for the abuse because they experienced pleasure (this is a grooming technique). I have treated countless victims who, after the abuse was revealed (either through someone observing, or indirectly), did not disclose the full extent. They fear they will get in trouble for not telling themselves, and fear and shame because they experienced physical pleasure. As the victims grow older, they may be unable to process the abuse, and continue to blame both themselves as well as the offender. The shame produced can be so intense as to create suicidal ideation, a loss of "self", and self-destructive behaviors.

Victims of child sexual abuse can go on to lead normal, healthy lives. They can learn to let go of the pain, and to increase their self-awareness of how the abuse affected them. Sometimes it takes the right therapist, just the right book, or even just time.

Return to The American Academy of Experts in Traumatic Stress Homepage

Rosenberg and Associates can be reached at www.angelfire.com/mi/collateral/victims.html.
 
 

 

http://www.aaets.org/article123.htm

I notice there is no age in that article and if you are trying to debunk my story of my sons rape, that is pretty hateful to put it mildly and that is what it seems to me you are doing. I think it depends on age and my son was 3,I asked the specialists if he would forget and was told most at THAT AGE do, BECAUSE of the age. I think I will go back to lurking now. It is best as every time I post,you seem to try to discount what I post.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 30, 2009, 03:51:52 PM
Please forgive my ignorance. monkeys - but I am a bit confused about something . . .    :smt100

Misty has 2 brothers - Tommy and Hank Jr.? I know Hank Jr. was the one involved in the fight, who Misty supposedly called for help. But which one was taken in for questioning yesterday? I saw the video with Hank Jr. whining that he didn't know why Misty is accusing him, he sees the kids every day, he's only tried to help his sister, etc. But I keep reading the name 'Tommy' in reports as well. . . And which one owns the van? Ugh - sorry . . . TIA.

Misty has two brothers: Hank Thomas Croslin Jr (aka Tommy), Timothy A. Croslin (aka Timmy)

Hank Thomas Croslin Jr (aka Tommy) and his wife Lindsy, live at 116 Tyler St, about 2 minutes away from the trailer on Green Ln where Haleigh was living. They were brought in for questioning by LE last week.

I believe that Lindsy actually owns the van.

Hope this helps.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 30, 2009, 04:04:24 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Searching on August 30, 2009, 04:05:32 PM
http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2006/10.12/01-abuse.html


One more thing IM, here is an article including stories of children who "chose" to forget who were abused at 8 and older. They said he would probably forget, whether that meant suppress his memories or forget, they said he would forget. The last time I shared my son and my story with you, you slapped me in the face with it with your verbal attack that I still to this day do not understand ,and I could not even bring myself to this thread for over a week and I cried for 3 days straight.  I will not allow you to bring me to that point again.

Have a great day monkeys.

Praying for Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 30, 2009, 04:12:12 PM
SEARCHING.((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))))


With much love,
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Brandi on August 30, 2009, 04:14:45 PM
http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2006/10.12/01-abuse.html


One more thing IM, here is an article including stories of children who "chose" to forget who were abused at 8 and older. They said he would probably forget, whether that meant suppress his memories or forget, they said he would forget. The last time I shared my son and my story with you, you slapped me in the face with it with your verbal attack that I still to this day do not understand ,and I could not even bring myself to this thread for over a week and I cried for 3 days straight.  I will not allow you to bring me to that point again.

Have a great day monkeys.

Praying for Haleigh.

Hugs to you, Searching.

I am glad to see you posting here again.

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 30, 2009, 04:16:35 PM


snip from NRCG:

I will have to agree with you. And one other thing, that I don't want anyone to take the wrong way, because it is a terrible and serious topic. But I really wonder if Misty was abused by any family member? Is she just saying this for sympathy, or to get family members in trouble. It would be horrific either way, if it really happened, or she is making it all up. I just don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth.

Rosie...I have said this same thing before today, that I was skeptical if her allegations were even true....my one question that I asked in the past was if her cousin Joe had really molested her in the past, why is she and the family still friendly with him? IIRC,  supposedly he had even visited her the evening that Haleigh went missing...now if someone in the past had "messed" with you...would you allow them into your home when you are there alone with 2 little kids? I don't believe anything that she might say if it was to her advantage to lie..
I almost posted what you said today myself...minds thinking alike and all that heh?

Hello monkeys!

Well, then - that makes 3 of us all thinking the same thing, then . . . I have found myself wondering the same, but feeling perhaps a bit guilty for thinking it - somehow it doesn't sit right to say one doesn't believe a rape victim, does it? But it makes absolutely NO sense to me that she would maintain ties with her attackers if it were true - no way! And like you both said: she had Joe over at her house with the kids there, and Hank says he saw the kids pretty much daily . . . I don't think so. Interesting how the list keeps growing of those who have "messed with her" . . . constant excuses for the mess that is her life . .  . just like all of her other lies keep accumulating as she tries to dig herself out of this giant mess she has gotten herself into. She may be "street smart", but she is emotionally VERY immature. (Her emotional maturity and education levels are probably very similar, IMO).

4 ::MonkeyTongue:: I posted about it earlier today myself.........she wants us to believe she's been molested by 3 different people ::MonkeyDevil2:: So not buying it. My son was a victim at age three as most know, and I was told by the psychologist and rape crisis center that he would have a very strong intuition about people who "aren't right" IYKWIM and he has a very heightened sense of aawareness and is super cautious.

Well I for one will not jump out there and say that she is lying.  That dysfunctional drug infested family, I would not put it pass them.

I worked with a woman that had been molested by two different stepfathers and an uncle when she was a young girl. She  had no choice but to continue to be around them, because when she informed her mother about one of them, her mother did not believe her and became upset with her.

I wonder just why Misty was not sent, made to go to school.

Everyone does not react or respond the same. Everyone does not have the state of mind to seek assistance of a psychologist and rape crisis center.


Mothers of incest survivors: another side of the story - Google Books Result


of family dysfunction that is handed down from one generation to the next, ... Diane was molested by an uncle and an older brother but said she chose to

http://books.google.com/books?id=Y8hC2sqbsDwC&pg=PA83&lpg=PA83&dq=family+dysfunction+and+molestation&source=bl&ots=xUpVD6IOTM&sig=eWtn2TYzVeB0l9dqz88iskJ_wIs&hl=en&ei=6gGaSujaD6rxnQecwfmVCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Well, I AM the mother of an incest victim..............and he is hypersensitive to men and I was told by everyone I spoke with over those 3yrs of hell if he would be more suseptible to this now and their statement s were absolutely not, he would be more aware and proetective of himself and that has shown to be true for the past 6 yrs.

As well as I am the mother of a son that endured a brutal rape when he was 3 and the specialists he went to told me that children at that age forget the act after time if it is not being talked about constantly, They heal and they grow and forget,and as brutal as his was,he did forget until a family member mentioned it in front of him and little bits have been coming back to him unfortunately. I was the one that had the difficulties forgetting and getting over the over whelming need to castrate someone.

I also am an incest survivor myself,who had parents that would not believe what my 2 brothers were doing,even though we were ran out of a town because they did the same to 2 little girls from an childrens home that butted up to the woods. My mother called me terrible names for a 5 year old to hear,my father well, he did the same,called me names and hit me for the smallest things. I ended up finally spending some of my teen years in foster care. I ended up being the one reporting one of those brothers  missing for my father as an adult,and handling that for dad. I was sent back home 5 times because CPS was told my brothers no longer lived in the home, well, they did. Today, people can talk to me, see me and never know what I have been through,but that does not make it any less real. I have just forgiven and moved on in life,as has my son and you can not tell he went through what he did either. He is a normal outgoing 20 year old married man.If not for his health issue, he would be out having a great time meeting people,how ever, he is not able to at this time, but before he started having this problem, he did meet knew people and was in marching band , played the sax and had many many friends.

What I am trying to say is please do not discount that Misty was molested,you can not tell by looking at a person and hearing a tape. We do not wear tags saying we were victims so you can not just look and say someone is lying.


Searching~I'm so sorry for what you and your son endured, however thru 6 yrs of my going to counseling with other family members of molestation, 3 different pyschologist, children's advocates, and the rape crisis center wher I aske if he would forget (I was praying he would), I was told emphatically no, and not one member of my support groups I've attended had a child that forgot. It's possible many may block it to try and protect themselves from the awful memories or they might even try to dissasociate from it, but to forget, no way (I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Many do move past it to lead productive lives and it seems my son is on that path thank God. We NEVER talk about it ever unless he brings it up himself (I'd prefer to never talk about it as it enrages me to a point that I can't even express). I would not usually discount anyone who speaks about their victimization, however it seems Misty is frankly NOT believable IMO, if she had brought this info forward in the beginning about all 3 cases I MIGHT believe her, yet she has proven to be a liar so it makes it truly difficult to cull out the truth from fiction  when it comes to Misty. I had this article bookmarked for quite a while about abuse victims and thought I'd share:

Victims of Sexual Abuse

Rosenberg and Associate


It is very important that when a victim of sexual abuse comes forth and reports the crime to family, friends, law enforcement, and others, that he or she be listened to in the most sincere fashion possible. Studies have shown that the most credible account of what occurred during a rape or child molestation comes from the victim him/herself. Studies suggest that approximately 3-5% of all rape or child molestation allegations that are reported are false...Therefore, nearly 95% are based on a factual incident. When a victim comes forth and reports the crime, there will almost undoubtedly be two sides to the story: the victim's disclosure and the offender's. It is important to remember that the offender will most likely find people to support his/her story. This is a part of the offender's mode of operation--to have a planned out alibi with people to support it. When the victim is related to the offender, a sharp divide may consume the family system, with some family members supporting the alleged offender's story and others supporting the victim's. This divide not only serves to facilitate familial dysfunction, but also can severely traumatize the victim and create a very strong perception of shame and guilt for reporting.

There are thousands of victims of sexual abuse that never come forward and report the crime. This may be due to a number of factors. First, the grooming technique an offender uses can make the victim feel as if he or she was an active participant in the abuse itself. If the victim feels this way, they may not report the crime because they may feel responsible in some way. A rape victim may not report the crime out of fear, since many rapists will tell the victim that if they disclose the crime, he will return (however, very few rapists actually do). The victim of sexual abuse may be very aware that people may doubt his/her disclosure, their character, their choices, and because of this perception, they may not disclose. This would be considered the community reaction to the crime, and it includes boyfriends/husbands, the police, neighbors, family, the court, etc.

There are still numerous people in our society that feel that rape is justified under certain conditions. Many people believe that a prostitute "cannot" be raped. Just imagine if a prostitute entered a police station and reported that she had just been raped. If the police are aware that she is a prostitute, how might they react? Moreover, maybe the woman chooses not to tell the officers that she is a prostitute. How would she relate the dynamics of the crime? How would the police react when they discover she is a prostitute?

In an American Medical Association study, over half of the 6000 teenagers stated that there were some circumstances under which rape is acceptable, such as if the male and female had dated six months or longer or if he'd spent considerable money on her.

Much of the psychological damage a victim receives comes not from the assault itself, but from the post assault reactions from others. It is very important that police investigators and prosecutors recognize how their behavior with the victim affects not only the immediate and long-term ability to deal with the incident, but also his or her willingness to assist in a prosecution. Recognizing this fact, the first people who come in contact with a victim post assault have an opportunity to set the stage, through their behavior and reactions, for an easier or more difficult recovery for the victim.

It is important to understand that there is no single, standard, or "appropriate" victim response to rape or molestation. There would be two general response types that many victims follow: expressive or guarded. Some victims will be very verbal, be in tears, and be angry, and so forth following the offense. Others will be guarded, quiet, attempt to go on. Some victims may switch back and forth from being expressive to guarded.

When a sexual assault occurs, there are numerous victims that are produced. Obviously, there is the primary victim--the one in which the assault was directly targeted to. There are many other secondary victims. The children of the victim, husband, and other family members. They will all grieve in their own way, and it is important for professionals to assist everyone involved.

Investigators, juries, judges, prosecutors, and everyone else must understand that rape victims, immediately following the assault, may not react with all of their normal faculties. When someone suffers a traumatic event, it may take a while for your head to clear and your heart rate to return to normal. For sexual assault victims, this temporary detachment may result in delays in reporting...Which can also hinder a successful prosecution. If there is a delay in reporting the assault, it is imperative that investigators and prosecutors do not berate her, or challenge her for not reporting immediately. Instead, they should recognize the courage it takes to report a crime of this nature (and to survive such crimes), and no one should ever second-guess the victim’s tactics in handling the crisis.

Many victims of sexual abuse do fully recover. This is not to suggest that they ever forget about what occurred, because they do not. However, they can, with the help of family, friends, and professionals, go on with their lives and be happy again.  
Victims of Child Molestation

Being sexually abused as a child or as a teenager can have a wide-range of both short and long-term effects. Many times, the offenders will try and use the following line in their defense, "if I really sexually abused him/her, why did she still want to play with me?". I will also be told from family members of offenders that the alleged victim and offender are very close and have a good relationship. These dynamics can be very confusing (especially for the victim) for mental health professionals, law enforcement, judges, and prosecutors. How can a child be sexually abused by someone close to him/her, yet still want to "play" with that person, or have a relationship with that person?

The reason this may occur is due to what we call grooming, or the method the offender used to have the victim comply with his or her wishes. For instance, if the offender was very nice to the victim prior to the offending, bought gifts, or gave special attention to the victim, the child victim would naturally yearn for such behaviors or items. Just as important, however, is the fact that the victim may be a close relative to the offender, and truly does not want the offender to leave (especially if this is in conjunction with gifts and attention); however, this does not mean the victim wants the abuse to continue.

Many people erroneously believe that child victims of sexual abuse are always traumatized by the abuse, and overtly angry with the offender. Sometimes this could not be farther from the truth. I have worked with both adult men and women who have been sexually abused as children, who state that they were not traumatized, nor did they want the offender to be incarcerated. Did the sexual abuse affect them? Of course, just not in a traumatic way. The abuse may have affected their boundaries, sexual interests and behaviors, trust, and sexual orientation; however, it did not traumatize them. What may traumatize them, however, is the reaction from others. For instance, if the child and offender were caught by the child's mother, and the mother, rightfully so, goes ballistic. Within minutes the police arrive and take the child away. In a few hours, the child is being interviewed by child protective service workers, who may be acting like something traumatic happened. The child will then interpret the entire situation as traumatic, even if the child did not interpret the abuse, at the time, as traumatic.

A very high degree of psychological damage can occur if the offender makes the victim feel physical pleasure during the offense(s). This will produce a level of guilt and shame that is very powerful. Moreover, the victim is less likely to disclose the abuse, and if he or she does, they are very likely to minimize it. This would be because the victim may feel partly to blame for the abuse because they experienced pleasure (this is a grooming technique). I have treated countless victims who, after the abuse was revealed (either through someone observing, or indirectly), did not disclose the full extent. They fear they will get in trouble for not telling themselves, and fear and shame because they experienced physical pleasure. As the victims grow older, they may be unable to process the abuse, and continue to blame both themselves as well as the offender. The shame produced can be so intense as to create suicidal ideation, a loss of "self", and self-destructive behaviors.

Victims of child sexual abuse can go on to lead normal, healthy lives. They can learn to let go of the pain, and to increase their self-awareness of how the abuse affected them. Sometimes it takes the right therapist, just the right book, or even just time.

Return to The American Academy of Experts in Traumatic Stress Homepage

Rosenberg and Associates can be reached at www.angelfire.com/mi/collateral/victims.html.
 
 

 

http://www.aaets.org/article123.htm

I notice there is no age in that article and if you are trying to debunk my story of my sons rape, that is pretty hateful to put it mildly and that is what it seems to me you are doing. I think it depends on age and my son was 3,I asked the specialists if he would forget and was told most at THAT AGE do, BECAUSE of the age. I think I will go back to lurking now. It is best as every time I post,you seem to try to discount what I post.

Never would I try to debunk what you or your son went thru EVER, it's a horrific vile act and I have only questioned one person as to their accounts and that is Misty as she has proven to continually play the victim card. I was simply stating that no one really forgets, they may make a conscious effort to file it away and move or or dissasociate as a defense mechanism. I don't think there is a right or wrong way to get past a tragedy as molestation or rape, I just know from every counselor I have ever talked to ever the yrs that forgetting was not an option even in a 2 yr old I was told.

As for slapping you in the face regarding your story you told me once, I apologize and don't remember ever doing that to you, but if I did I certainly apologize for whatever I said that made you feel that way.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 30, 2009, 04:28:21 PM
I am very sorry for what you and your son endured  ::MonkeyAngel:: I don't know anything really on this subject, I brought it up, rather as another way to look at it. I have no idea if Misty was sexually abused by a brother and cousin, but if she was not I also would hate for someone to look at both of them as molesters, and treat them differently because of it. It is probably rare, but some people do lie and say horrible things like that to ruin another's reputation, and to me that is very wrong. But again, I don't know about Misty, but what I do see is a girl that has had one heck of a bad time growing up, and for that I don't like to see that with anyone. Maybe her parents if they cared for her more would have pushed for at least a high school graduation, I do believe that Misty latched on to Ron for a roof over her head, food, and other various things.

It is my understanding that Misty dropped out in 4th grade.  Just have a look at her note written to Tim Miller.  Barely legible.  The word "make" is spelled "mach" repeatedly, for example.  The print style is totally inconsistent internally.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 30, 2009, 04:35:10 PM
Well, whether fourth or seventh grade it is bad, and if Ron cared anything about his child bride, he should encourage her to go back to school. I know that isn't probably going to happen...... ::MonkeyRoll::  I realize that some kids quit school for various reasons, such as having to work to help the family, and basically for some families I guess an education isn't important. I'm wondering if perhaps she has some learning disabilities and that is why she dropped out?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: seahorse on August 30, 2009, 04:37:06 PM
This is my view on the blood, deer and van:

They say there is a little bit of truth in a lie according to the guests on TV shows.

Did Misty see Haleigh as the "deer"?   Is she referring to the blood, deer and van, referring to the child?

Did someone run over Haleigh?  Was Misty was trying to tell the story without committing herself.

It is my opinion the blood, "seeing the deer put into the van", perhaps, was not the deer, instead, possibily the child.

Does anyone remember Casey Anthony's version of the squirrel being scraped off the car?

Good Morning Monkeys!

Wow - what a great post! Many items in there that really got me thinking . . . The highlighted statement I think is especially true, and we should probably keep that in mind, as Misty is clearly piling lie on top of lie. Excellent point.

How very interesting  - your thoughts about the deer - especially given the juxtaposition of the words 'deer' and 'dear'. Made me go "hmmmmmm" . . . and the comparison to Casey Anthony and the squirrel is so powerful. Wow.

Following you out of the box, then - expanding on your thoughts a bit - what if there really was a deer, which means they had been hunting, right? Dick Cheney surely showed us all that hunting accidents CAN happen! A gun misfire, Haleigh running into line of fire, one of those hillbillies thinking they would teach Haleigh how to fire a gun . . . all perhaps scenarios of a hunting accident?

So much to think about!

Tams,

Yes, he does hunt, accidents do happen. He could be hunting posseum in the yard. Ron enjoyed showing Haleigh how to fish, etc.  He may have really showed her how to hunt, too. Hard core hunters do show children at a very young age how to hunt.

Misty bought up the subject of the van and seeing blood, there was no reason to bring that up unless she and Ronald are trying to frame the brother. If you listen to that tape, she later says "I think it was deer blood" I found that unsettling, first she said, deer blood, and then later, say, she thinks it was deer blood,then said "I don't know"> it was one or the other. I think she wanted to imply or leave it to the imagination that the blood could have been human blood or deer blood. She is a slipperly fish.

( IMO) They (RC & MC) are going to frame someone.  The Police Chief was "very pleased" with the brother's interview.  I do not believe one thing Misty says, but, with saying that, pieces of what she said have some connection. I understand why after ten interviews with the law there were no results, she is a master at confusion and manipulation.  Just an opinion.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 30, 2009, 04:38:06 PM
don't need no skoolin' fer...... ummmmm.... you know  ::MonkeyTease::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 30, 2009, 04:38:51 PM
IM, that is a very interesting article. And while I read it I wondered how does Jaycee who was held for 18 years, ever go forward from there. I know with therapy I suppose she might be somewhat okay, but I can't grasp how. And her two kids, maybe she will try as hard as possible for them. It is just so hard to understand how one moves forward after such terrible things happen. I'm so glad your son is on the path to a productive life, thanks to you and your family and therapy.

Thanks NRCG~as to poor Jaycee, I honestly don't know how soemone can get past that, I remember Steven Stayner who was missing for about 8 yrs IIRC came home and had such a multitude of problems and he eventually died in a motorcycle wreck that some thinks was a suicide and Shawn Hornbeck's parent have just recently said how incredibly difficult it has been to readjust to any sense of normalcy. I guess the best we can hope and pray for is that they will be showna  tremendous amount of love and support from family, friends and seek counseling. God bless her and all who have had to endure such a crime that lasted so many yrs, I pray they can find a way to move on.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 30, 2009, 04:39:02 PM
ISLAND, I know you have been to hell and back.

((((((((((HUGS))))))))))) To you too.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 - 8/30/09
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 30, 2009, 04:42:53 PM
I CAN DO THE LOCK!!! HONEST I CAN! LOL!  ::MonkeyJnBox:: Let's roll.....everyone make a post!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 - 8/30/09
Post by: klaasend on August 30, 2009, 04:44:46 PM
I CAN DO THE LOCK!!! HONEST I CAN! LOL!  ::MonkeyJnBox:: Let's roll.....everyone make a post!

OK, I'll let you take it!  ::MonkeySlide::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 - 8/30/09
Post by: MuffyBee on August 30, 2009, 04:44:55 PM
I CAN DO THE LOCK!!! HONEST I CAN! LOL!  ::MonkeyJnBox:: Let's roll.....everyone make a post!


Al-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-ll-l-lrighty then !!!!!   ::MonkeySlide::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 30, 2009, 04:45:13 PM
ISLAND, I know you have been to hell and back.

((((((((((HUGS))))))))))) To you too.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks Fanny and (((((hugs back )))))))))), but what we have been thru as bad as it was just scratches the surface of what so many others have had to endure during their lives. We make it thru because of very special people in our lives that pour love and compassion on us, and without that and counseling I don't thik we'd have been so blessed. When I think about what Mark Lunsford, Jaycee and so many others have been thru I feel humbled at what their families have accomplished by just getting out of bed each day.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: klaasend on August 30, 2009, 04:46:15 PM
Right about now I really don't care what kind of life Misty might have had growing up.  Misty is here and Haleigh is not.  Mistly was the last person to see Haleigh ALIVE.  I believe Misty holds the key and so does LE. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 - 8/30/09
Post by: islandmonkey on August 30, 2009, 04:47:08 PM
I CAN DO THE LOCK!!! HONEST I CAN! LOL!  ::MonkeyJnBox:: Let's roll.....everyone make a post!
::MonkeyBike:: POST!!!!!!!!! ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: strayze on August 30, 2009, 04:47:46 PM
Well, whether fourth or seventh grade it is bad, and if Ron cared anything about his child bride, he should encourage her to go back to school. I know that isn't probably going to happen...... ::MonkeyRoll::  I realize that some kids quit school for various reasons, such as having to work to help the family, and basically for some families I guess an education isn't important. I'm wondering if perhaps she has some learning disabilities and that is why she dropped out?

I believe that in fact she does have a learning disability, or alternatively, a low IQ.  That does not mean that she is slow on her pettiness and self-centeredness.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 30, 2009, 04:50:33 PM
Right about now I really don't care what kind of life Misty might have had growing up.  Misty is here and Haleigh is not.  Mistly was the last person to see Haleigh ALIVE.  I believe Misty holds the key and so does LE. 

I AGREE!!! This 'poor, pitiful me' crap doesn't fly with me!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 30, 2009, 04:56:19 PM
Searching and IM  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 30, 2009, 04:57:07 PM
Are we there yet?  Are we there yet?   ::MonkeyCheer3::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: SuzieQ on August 30, 2009, 04:58:41 PM
Right about now I really don't care what kind of life Misty might have had growing up.  Misty is here and Haleigh is not.  Mistly was the last person to see Haleigh ALIVE.  I believe Misty holds the key and so does LE. 

I AGREE!!! This 'poor, pitiful me' crap doesn't fly with me!


I agree also. 6 more posts


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: SuzieQ on August 30, 2009, 05:01:48 PM
 ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: islandmonkey on August 30, 2009, 05:02:21 PM
Right about now I really don't care what kind of life Misty might have had growing up.  Misty is here and Haleigh is not.  Mistly was the last person to see Haleigh ALIVE.  I believe Misty holds the key and so does LE. 

I AGREE!!! This 'poor, pitiful me' crap doesn't fly with me!


I agree also. 6 more posts

Ditto~Haliegh is who is important here, and IMO Jr.




Let's ROLL!




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 30, 2009, 05:04:05 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 30, 2009, 05:04:42 PM

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/h3.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 30, 2009, 05:05:58 PM

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/FirstDaySchool.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 30, 2009, 05:07:30 PM
And let's not forget this one:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/prayhaleigh.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 30, 2009, 05:08:33 PM
YEAH MUFFY!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 - 8/30/09
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 30, 2009, 05:08:52 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/Sanddrops/Scared%20Monkeys/LOCKED2.gif)

>>>>>>>>>>>>

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5881.0


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #18 8/6/09 -
Post by: MuffyBee on August 30, 2009, 05:09:21 PM
(http://www.fox30online.com/media/news/1/8/2/1821cedf-af9d-4d8b-a637-95d0e7fa84d3/Story.jpg)