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Small town baffled, alarmed at 10-year-old girl's disappearance

Story Updated: Jun 27, 2009 at 9:52 PM PDT
By Ray Lane and KOMO News Web Staff

MCCLEARY, Wash. - A wide-ranging search is under way for a 10-year-old girl who vanished Friday evening while walking home from a friend's house in this small town set amid forested hills west of Olympia. And now the entire town is worried.

Lindsey J. Baum was last seen at 9:15 p.m. Friday when she left her friend's home on Maple Street, where she had been visiting, said Dave Pimentel of the Grays Harbor County Sheriff's Office.

Lindsey was going to walk the four blocks to her home on Mommsen Road, which is roughly a 10-minute walk. But something happened in that short distance - Lindsey never arrived home.


 A volunteer goes door to door, passing out fliers about the missing girl.
"She hasn't been seen or heard from since," Pimentel said.

Her mother reported her missing at 10:50 p.m. And as the hours drag by with no sign of her, the girl's family fears she may have been taken by a stranger.

Search teams have been out looking for the girl, using bloodhounds. Sheriff's deputies, meanwhile, are calling people who live in the neighborhood and also are going door to door to see if anyone heard or saw anything.

Other searchers are combing the nearby woods on ATVs. Everyone is anxious for any sign of the missing girl.

Pimentel said Lindsey has never been a runaway. "We don't suspect that at this time," he said.

The girl's disappearance has shocked many residents of McCleary, population 1,550, where the biggest employer is a lumber mill that manufactures doors and people know their neighbors.

"We don't know what happened to her yet. All we know is she's missing, and we're taking every effort we can to try and locate her," he added.

Police say it appears Lindsey walked at least part of the way with home with friends, who didn't see anything unusual.

Melissa McCann, a family friend, said, "This is a small town. These things don't happen. And yet here they are. She comes from her friend's (house) a lot, so it doesn't make sense that she didn't show up at home. We're just baffled."

Pimentel said it's strange that nobody saw anything unusual.

"Such a small community like this - you can't do much in a town this size without everybody knowing about it," he said. "Everybody in town knows she's unaccounted for."

Lindsey's mother admits the 10-year old had been fighting with her brother in the moments before she was last seen, and that Lindsey is still upset about her parent's recent divorce.

But with every passing hour, there are mounting worries that the friendly girl who will talk with anybody is in serious trouble.

Lindsey was last seen wearing a gray hooded pullover sweatshirt, with blue jeans and black shoes. She stands about 4-feet-10-inches and weighs about 85 pounds.

Anyone with information is asked to call the Grays Harbor 911 Center at (800) 281-6944 or the McCleary Police Department at (360) 495-3107.

(http://media.komonews.com/images/090627_lindsey_baum_3.jpg)

http://www.komonews.com/news/49343017.html

Police search for 10-year-old McCleary girl

05:39 PM PDT on Saturday, June 27, 2009


McCLEARY, Wash. - A search is under way in the small town of McCleary for a 10-year-old girl who didn't make it home Friday night.

Lindsey J. Baum was last seen at roughly 9:15 p.m. on Maple Street. She was walking home from a friend's house, and the distance she had to go was only about four blocks.

Family, friends and police are all aiding in the search.

Family members are concerned because she has never run away from home.

"We're hoping that Lindsey's just somewhere out there and she's afraid she's in trouble, and Lindsey you're not in trouble - come home," said Melissa McCann, a friend."If anybody's seen her, send her home."

Courtesy Melissa Baum

A search is under way in the town of McCleary for 10-year-old Lindsey Baum.

Lindsey is described as 4-foot 9-inches tall and 80 pounds, with brown hair and brown eyes. She was last seen wearing a grey pullover hoodie with blue jeans and black shoes.

McCleary Police say she doesn’t have a history of running away, and since there are less than 2,000 people in town, someone would recognize her if she were walking the streets.

Anyone with information should contact the police.

http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_062709WAB-Mccleary-girl-missig-KS.11d86a7b.html


Interesting comment in the comment section:
MelissaMcCann 3 hours ago wrote:

You people have no right to be judgemental when you dont know the story. this is my best friends kid and i have been here all day. Lindsey wasnt suppose to be alone. her older brother went with her and they got into a arguement and he came back home with out her. she has a cell phone but had left here on the charger as she was to be right back. so instead of thinking your above it all just prayer for her return.. and for those of you who helped today or had nice wishes for the family we appreciate it much. the search will continue with the search dogs at 6 am.

http://www.komonews.com/news/49343017.html
Small town baffled, alarmed at 10-year-old girl's disappearance
Story Published: Jun 27, 2009 at 12:16 PM PDT
Story Updated: Jun 27, 2009 at 9:52 PM PDT
By Ray Lane and KOMO News Web Staff
MCCLEARY, Wash. - A wide-ranging search is under way for a 10-year-old girl who vanished Friday evening while walking home from a friend's house in this small town set amid forested hills west of Olympia. And now the entire town is worried.
Lindsey J. Baum was last seen at 9:15 p.m. Friday when she left her friend's home on Maple Street, where she had been visiting, said Dave Pimentel of the Grays Harbor County Sheriff's Office.

Lindsey was going to walk the four blocks to her home on Mommsen Road, which is roughly a 10-minute walk. But something happened in that short distance - Lindsey never arrived home.
"She hasn't been seen or heard from since," Pimentel said.
Her mother reported her missing at 10:50 p.m. And as the hours drag by with no sign of her, the girl's family fears she may have been taken by a stranger.

Search teams have been out looking for the girl, using bloodhounds. Sheriff's deputies, meanwhile, are calling people who live in the neighborhood and also are going door to door to see if anyone heard or saw anything.

Other searchers are combing the nearby woods on ATVs. Everyone is anxious for any sign of the missing girl.

Pimentel said Lindsey has never been a runaway. "We don't suspect that at this time," he said.

The girl's disappearance has shocked many residents of McCleary, population 1,550, where the biggest employer is a lumber mill that manufactures doors and people know their neighbors.

"We don't know what happened to her yet. All we know is she's missing, and we're taking every effort we can to try and locate her," he added.

Police say it appears Lindsey walked at least part of the way with home with friends, who didn't see anything unusual.

Melissa McCann, a family friend, said, "This is a small town. These things don't happen. And yet here they are. She comes from her friend's (house) a lot, so it doesn't make sense that she didn't show up at home. We're just baffled."

Pimentel said it's strange that nobody saw anything unusual.

"Such a small community like this - you can't do much in a town this size without everybody knowing about it," he said. "Everybody in town knows she's unaccounted for."

Lindsey's mother admits the 10-year old had been fighting with her brother in the moments before she was last seen, and that Lindsey is still upset about her parent's recent divorce.

But with every passing hour, there are mounting worries that the friendly girl who will talk with anybody is in serious trouble.

Lindsey was last seen wearing a gray hooded pullover sweatshirt, with blue jeans and black shoes. She stands about 4-feet-10-inches and weighs about 85 pounds.
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I hope Lindsey is found soon. 

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4 blocks/9:30 pm/10 year old girl ...... not good  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree Nut. Even in a small town. Children CAN be snatched even in a small town. It does happen there and everywhere.


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Missing 10-year-old girl's mom: 'A part of me thinks the worst'

Story Updated: Jun 28, 2009 at 10:30 AM PDT
By KOMO Staff

MCCLEARY, Wash. - As the search for a missing 10-year-old girl stretched into its second day in this small mill town, police and family are beginning to fear she may have been kidnapped.

Lindsey J. Baum was last seen between 9 and 10 p.m. Friday when she left her friend's home on Maple Street, where she had been visiting, said Dave Pimentel of the Grays Harbor County Sheriff's Office.

Lindsey was going to walk the four blocks to her home on Mommsen Road, which is roughly a 10-minute walk. But something happened in that short distance - Lindsey never arrived home.

A wide-ranging search was launched early Saturday in the town and the surrounding forests. The town was criss-crossed three times, but not a trace of Lindsey has been found.

Volunteers went from door to door, interviewing people and distributing fliers. But no one saw or heard anything. Even bloodhounds failed to pick up her scent.

The search was resumed Sunday at 6 a.m., but so far with the same futile result as the day before.

Police are hesitant to call the girl's disappearance a case of foul play just yet, but the girl's family fears the worst.

"I've tried to keep the thought of somebody grabbing her out of my mind," says her mother, Melissa Baum.

She says Lindsey argued with her brother on her way to a friend's house Friday night. She talked to her friend for a bit, then started for home as darkness fell.

The friend's father, Scott Williams, said he asked Lindsey to go home before it got too dark.

"She was here 10, 15 minutes, and then, you know, we said, 'You should probably get going before it gets dark,' and that was the last we heard of her," he said.

Witnesses say Lindsey seemed normal as she headed out around 9:15. Another friend even walked her part of the way, but Lindsey never showed up at her home.

Her mother says it's not like her to stay away - especially at night.

"She wouldn't stay out that late after dark. She doesn't like to be outside by herself," Melissa Baum says. "I want to think that everything's OK, but there's a part of me that thinks the worst."

Now hope has turned to anxiety and alarm among frustrated search teams - and the whole town, population 1,550, where everybody knows their neighbors.

The mother is also at a loss.

She says her daughter is upset about her recent divorce, but doesn't have money to run away - and has never tried to run away before. Her mom doubts at this point that Lindsey is trying to hide.

"If somebody does have her, I wish they would just drop her off somewhere where she can get to a pay phone and call 911 or call home, so that we can come and get her," she says, sobbing.

Melissa McCann, a family friend, said, "This is a small town. These things don't happen. And yet here they are. She comes from her friend's (house) a lot, so it doesn't make sense that she didn't show up at home. We're just baffled."

Pimentel said it's strange that nobody saw anything unusual.

"Such a small community like this - you can't do much in a town this size without everybody knowing about it," he said. "Everybody in town knows she's unaccounted for."

Lindsey was last seen wearing a gray or blue hooded pullover sweatshirt, with blue jeans and black shoes. She has brown eyes, brown hair, and stands about 4-feet-9-inches and weighs about 80 pounds.

Anyone with information is asked to call the Grays Harbor 911 Center at (800) 281-6944 or the McCleary Police Department at (360) 495-3107.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/49383897.html

10 Year Old Lindsey J. Baum Missing Since Friday, June 26, 2009 in McCleary, WA

http://missingexploited.com/2009/06/28/10-year-old-lindsey-j-baum-missing-since-friday-june-26-2009-in-mccleary-wa/


The police are hesitant to refer to the missing girl’s disappearance a case of foul play; however, the more time goes by, the greater the possibility.

The short walk home from a friends house in a town so small is a troubling bit of information. We have seen in the past just how fast a drive by abduction can be.

I pray that Lindsey is found safe but … somehow I do fear the worst.

I live in Canada just across the border from Seattle … a three hour drive. At 9:30 PM last night it was dusk bording on dark. Hubby, friends and I were in the process of exiting a theater. I ask what a ten year old little girl is doing on the streets alone at this time of night.

My eight hear old granddaughter is dropped off or picked up any time of the day or night when playing with her neighborhood friends.

What were the adults in this little girl’s life thinking. At 10 years old she has no means to defend herself.

I am angry

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FBI joins search for missing 10-year-old girl
Story Published: Jun 28, 2009 at 10:27 AM PDT
Story Updated: Jun 28, 2009 at 1:00 PM PDT
By KOMO Staff

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/49383897.html

I hope the FBI and LE are checking her Myspace:

http://www.myspace.com/402470771

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/LindseyBaumMyspace.jpg)

This may also be hers

http://www.myspace.com/477760045

Klaas

I am clueless in regards to MySpace.

Does this 10 year old little girl have a MySpace account?

Janet

On her other Myspace she talks about her german shephard:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/LindseyMyspace2.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/LindseyMyspace2.jpg)

Yes 2.  There is no way to stop people from creating Myspace accounts based upon age.  That is up the parent.

What this looks like to me is whoever took her, got her login and password to Myspace from HER.  I think the perp is someone they know in town and I'm hoping she's still alive and simply holding her against her will.

Janet - with the younger kids, their Myspaces are actually easier to find.  Usually they aren't smart enough to use a fake name when they register. 

Whoa.  This doesn't look good.  I hope Lindsey can be found safe. 

Thanks Klaas

I know my 11 year old grandson has been talking about MySpace so he can communicate with his friends.  Mom and Dad have talked to him explained why they will not afford him the  priviledge at this time and ... he is none too happy.  The same goes with some type of online chat.

Believe me ... the computer is a big reason I would not want to be raising kids today.  It is such a balancing act in determining how far to let out the reins in some areas.

Janet

I'm affraid where there's a will the kids will find a way.

Janet - this is her best friend Kayla's myspace.  Kayla is around the same age as Lindsey.  I've blurred out Kayla's face some but is that a matteress on the floor?  Can you imagine a 10yr old child with a photo like that on Myspace?

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/KaylaMyspace-1.jpg)

Did you read that entry about her feeling something bad is going to happen?

On the 29th of May.

The sign-in could be LE or FBI couldn't it klaas?
Should someone call the tip line and let them know or you think they know? If she created the page at someone else's house, it may not be on her home computer.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Unbelieveable!

Janet

More photos of Lindsey:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/LindseyBaumPhotos.jpg)

I wonder how old her brother is. Is this the same brother she is happy was heading to juvie on her myspace?

You are right.

My grandson was at a friend's home last week ... a friend whose parents have the same expections as my daughter and SIL.  While the mother of friend was on another level of the house these two kids proceeded to play an on-line video game they both knew was not allowed.  Anyways ... the friend's mother caught them in the act and ... proceeded to inform my daughter.  My daughter was thankful.  There were consequnece for my grandson but also the incident provided an opportunity for review lesson in regards to the issue of trust.  Grandson hates those review lessons.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Janet

Looks like family and friends are all over the internet getting the word out.  Good thing since she didn't meet the Amber Alert criteria:

http://freelancersstartingplace.blogspot.com/


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/LindseyPosterSearch.jpg)

Good question Pink Angel.  First thing I wondered is if the brother actually ended up in Juvie.  If this is the same brother then it doesn't appear so.

Why was there not an immediate Amber alert.  Even when all is considered ... Lindsey is a ten year year old child.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet

That's a very good thing. It's so important to get her picture and name out there as quickly as possible.

She is a beautiful girl. If she was taken, it's not going to end well or may never end for the family.

Janet,
Amber Alerts have certain criteria that must be met before one is issued.
This didn't meet that criteria.

It sucks. I think the criteria needs to be changed. Any child under 12 there should be some kind of National Alert sounded, to get their name and picture out there...immediately. jmo

Probably thought he was going or that the judge would rule that way?  Or he didn't have to stay but a day or two? I would like to know more about the brother though.

Do you think LE is aware of these myspace pages? She could have made them at a friends house and they might not be aware. Kid's that age are sneaky and like you said "where there is a will, there is a way."

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/MissingPersonPosterLindsey.jpg)

FBI helping with case of missing McCleary girl

04:20 PM PDT on Sunday, June 28, 2009

TRICIA MANNING-SMITH / KING 5 News

McCLEARY, Wash. - The FBI has been called in to help in the investigation into the disappearance of 10-year-old Lindsey Baum.

The McCleary girl was last seen Friday on Maple Street.

Michaela Campen is the last person known to have seen Lindsay. The girls were at Michaela's home around 9:30 Friday night, hoping Lindsay could sleep over.

"I told her you need to head home, it's getting dark soon, a half hour of light left.  She put on her shoes and headed home," said Kara Campen.

Lindsay was alone for that nearly half-mile walk.

Her mother called police shortly before 11:00 Friday night to report her missing.

"We're starting to think the worst because it has been two days now, with a small town if anybody knew anything they would have said something so there's a lot of despair," said family friend Melissa McCann.

Neither the family nor investigators believe 10-year-old Lindsay ran away.  They're checking ditches and byways, wondering if she fell victim to an accident, but ruling nothing out.

"The worst case scenario-she's the victim of foul play or some type of predator behavior," said Grays Harbor Undersheriff Rick Scott

Officers have contacted nearby registered sex offenders, revealing no clues.  Although there is no known evidence of a crime, the FBI has now joined multiple other agencies in the investigation.

The family says Lindsay argued with her older brother earlier in the day Friday and her parents recently divorced. But the family firmly believes neither was related to her disappearance.

Anyone with information is asked to call Grays Harbor E911 Center at 360-533-8765 or McCleary Police at 360-495-3107.

There is video @ the link
http://www.nwcn.com/statenews/washington/stories/NW_062809WAB-Mccleary-girl-missing-sun-SW.165195dd.html

this is disturbing to say the least...a 10 yr old child walking that far alone and at night time? and a Myspace account at 10???? is there no parental blocks on that computer??? my feeling is that it is much too young to have a Myspace acct...children that age need to be supervised while on the computer I think....jmo....if that was my kid or grand child, I would have been on the phone to see where she was and I would have gone to pick her up..small town or not..
that Ben O. was kidnapped from a small country town by the same nutter who had Sean Hornbeck all those years...it can happen anywhere...parents need to be diligent in making sure that their children are watched and safe....especially nowadays...
I hope that this little girl is found safe...it is worrisome....

Sometimes kids go to other people's houses and use their computers to create and access myspace and other websites even if you have parental controls and forbid this at your own house.  Or they can go to the public library and use computers there.   Back to the old "where there's a will, there's a way" saying.  Parents may not even know their kids have a myspace.

this is very true! since I have grown kids and younger grand kids, I am probably a bit out of the loop on this stuff...thank God! and with so many latch key kids now a days...(is that still what they call kids who come home from school and stay by themselves while parents are at work?) perhaps they can do their computerizing then as well? Perhaps her parents didn't even know that she had a myspace acct? could very well be...

While I agree that there is only so much parents can do if kids are determined to defy parental expectation when outside the home environment but ...  ... parents can do something other than just throwing up their hands and affording children open access to sites that are not beneficial for their well-being.  Parents are the adult and children deserve protection.  Children do not always appreciate or understand the established boundares but ... for crying out loud ... they are children.  Who is in charge. As the song goes "Love is not a feeling ... it is the act of the will".

1.  Place computer in a central location in the home.
2.  Create blocks.
3.  Establish and follow through with consequences for chosing to disregard expectations.
4.  Check history/cookies daily.
5.  Check expectations of friends' parents.

yes...I agree with all of your post...

pink angel

I agree.

janet

  ::MonkeyEek:: I'm disturbed by this.

who lets a 10 year old walk home alone at 9:15 ?
They must live in wonderland..

What is up with the brother ??

Police need to go back to the beginning.. mo.

me too...it says that she is 13...is this Lindsey's myspace and she lied about her age or is it a friends? little confused...and what does "wet" mean? ::MonkeyNoNo::

and isn't that todays date??? who is posting on it then?

That's what I'm wondering, I guess because of no car to identify?

 ::MonkeyShocked::

Well, I'm afraid to say what I'm thinking. I just started to look at this thread a little while ago, and when I saw that myspace, a very sick feeling went over me. I'm very upset for this young girl right now.

me too Rosie..

The brother

Lots of water in washington.. what lakes or rivers are close by ?

Could it be that today's entry (wet) could have been posted by some sicko who met Lindsey online and ... did something to her?

I hope the FBI is aware of this MySpace account.

Janet

oh my goodness! had not thought of that...geez, I hope not but there are certainly some sickos about that is for sure!

I called. They took the URLS for both and said they said they are aware of them both and thanked me for calling.

That is how I'm taking it to mean, and I feel sick about what I'm thinking.

Thank-you

good job Pink Angel... ::MonkeyDance::

I called about 20 minutes ago actually before I went to run and get a pizza. It was bugging the hell out of me. There is info to be gleaned from there, imo.

Friends, how she was feeling etc...

It is one of Lindsey's, she had two.  She registered them both using her real name. 

Thank you pink angel.

I am thankful the FBI are on top of it.

Janet

Can a computer savy Monkey tell me whether today's entry on Lindsey's MySpace account can be traced.

Thanks

Janet

no rose colored glasses

Is this entry (wet) what you were referring to in you previous post?

Janet

thanks Klaas....so she also lied about her age? not a biggie...when you think of what some of these little girls are doing on myspace and sexting on their phones...posing nude or showing body parts...sending them to their boyfriends who forward them on to their friends...can you imagine? I was always so modest at that age, I would have freaked if anyone saw me in my bra! a training bra at that!

Janet,
If they contact myspace and give them a warrant. They can get all the info they need. Like what IP was used to log into the account, when the account was created, if anything was deleted, etc....

Hey ... 52 years ago at the age of 10 years old ... I was not aware of the facts of life and ... nothing was up front to even warrant a training bra.  One year later a friend made me promised on the Bible not to tell and ... then whispered to me what she overhead.  I could not stop laughing.  I told her she was nuts.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Janet

MySpace has created streamlined procedures for law enforcement agencies and officials to obtain critical data that can be used to aid in investigations. MySpace currently publishes a law enforcement guide, which informs law enforcement agencies of these procedures and outlines how they can work with MySpace regarding subpoenas and requests for information.

MySpace also has a special hotline service for law enforcement officials that is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. MySpace's safety team works directly with law enforcement, answering both emergency and non-emergency calls via the hotline to help in investigations, according to MySpace.

Thanks pink angel.

I am praying for a positive outcome.

Janet

I didn't know all that, thanks.

LOL@Janet!
When I was 10, I was thinking about barbies not boobies.

Thanks again.

As I told Klaas earlier ... I am clueless in regards to MySpace.

Janet

Janet

I don't understand myspace either  ::MonkeyConfused::

EXACTLY!!

Even when my Mother announced one day when I was twelve that we were going to go shopping for a training bra ... I resisted.  It was so embarrassing.  I even wore a stretchy undershirt over the bra ... under a very loose fitting blouse ... to make me appear flat.

I rememer my brother spotting my bra in the laundery hamper and held it up showing his friends while he ran around the basement.  I REALLY hated him at that moment.  If thoughts could kill .....

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Janet

lol! me too!
funny story Janet...^^^^

Her Myspace has changed.

Northern Rose

Are the entries made today by "friends" who have already been accepted by Lindsey?

Janet

A few comments regarding previous posts:

As far as the walking home at night contrary to what many think at the time Lindsey went missing it was still quite light out side as has been attested to by local police.

The bottom picture of Kayla - No that is not a mattress on the floor it is a pillow and the pic was taken at a girlfriends house when they were hanging out watching movies.

As for Lindsey's Myspace it was a kid (a friend) of Lindsey's that wrote the "I'm on Lindsey's myspace that is cool" as for the mood that is not what everyone appears to think it is it had been set to that previously in reference to a water war the kids all had. So nothing funny there.

Both girls are not suppose to be accessing Myspace but as of yet that is one site that has not been blocked from all public library computers or all of their friends homes.

- Lastly, I believe the basis of this forum is suppose to be supportive not trying to throw blame but instead provide support and to also discuss ways of trying to get the missing home safely. I understand sometimes trying to dig out information and hopefully leads and ideas means sometimes hitting where it hurts but please remember that above all else - There Is a Child Missing

It was my house that she left and no one can change the fact that I did not walk her home regardless of how light it was outside and that guilt eats me alive and haunts me every minute that ticks by. I wish it would have been dark out when she left because then I would have walked her home and we would not be here right now. If I could change things I would in a heartbeat but I can't now. As for Lindsey's mom she does not have a car but when she did Lindsey never had to walk home in the dark and she wouldn't, her mom was always right there to pick her up. What ifs do nothing more then make a tough situation more difficult for those of us who love Lindsey and they won't help bring her home...

What if...
One of the 2000 McCleary residents would have been outside and seen her
I had walked her home
I had let her stay the night
someone close had a car
it was one minute earlier/later
it was five minutes later/earlier
it was dark outside when she left
she had been walking with someone
police would have been patrolling that area
every sicko out there wasn't allowed a second chance
she had remembered to bring her phone
the police would have called in help before 12 hours had passed

KaraK, I do not know the agony you and Lindsey's family and friends are enduring.  First and most important, we are praying for Lindsey's safe return and you will find most of the monkeys here to be kind and nurturing.  Words said are as much to ourselves as they are to you or anyone involved in this critical situation.  Yes, it is so much easier to sit on the sidelines and say after the fact what any of us could or should have done.  Kindly know we care and will help any way we can to bring this precious child back home safely.  Please convey to the Baum family and your community our deepest wishes for a joyful outcome.

I couldn't have said it better Sister.

KaraK, please know we care deeply about all the missing and their family and friends. We want nothing more than for Lindsey to be found and brought home safe to the people that love her and miss her.

My thoughts and prayers are with Lindsey, her family, with you and your family and your community.

Many of us have our own blogs, myspaces, facebooks, etc...we are helping spread the word to help and get Lindsey's name and picture out there.

If there is anything we can do to help, just let us know.

These 2 "what ifs" are what makes me angry. We see it every day here at SM. Either a sex offender being involved with a missing child or law enforcement not moving quickly enough, not issuing an alert quick enough or not at all, assuming a child under 12 is a run away and dragging their heals.

The Amber Alert criteria needs to be re-evaluated because Amber Alerts work. They may not have a vehicle or a suspect to flash a picture of but they sure can get the child's name and picture out there IMMEDIATELY! Not 4 hours later or 12 hours later when the child could be a state away or worse.

They also need to make sure the sickos are locked up for a long time and if they let the monsters out, track them with GPS like the animals that they are. I am sick of the monsters having all the rights and our children not having any!!

 

Thank you very much for your kindness. It is appreciated. I really want people to understand that it was light outside when she left otherwise I would have never let her walk home and neither would her mom. I have 4 children of my own and Lindsey was like our own. As parents we should have been more careful and given them less freedom- we see that now and understand peoples frustrations and we are now paying dearly for that but if you look at McCleary - things like this just don't happen if you check out the stats for here you'll understand that we all really thought our kids were safe. So little goes on here that everyone doesn't know about. The Sgt. here grew up here and in his years we've never had a kid go missing - unless it was a runaway and even then they were all found quickly.

Lindsey's mom lost her sole source of transportation (it broke down) and they were barely getting by but her mom works hard and has found a way to continue to commute to the job she has had to keep to make it and take care of her kids which she loves so much and was constantly checking on Lindsey and having her check in. She is sitting outside her home right now hour after hour praying for some news and nothing comes - no leads - no news - no clue what happened -being told there is nothing that we can do to help. And all the while she still has to care for her son. I wouldn't dare try to say I know what she is going through but I know when she searches online hoping to find a bit of news that someone failed to update us on and it breaks her heart when she runs across the adversity. Mine too.
 
People on other sites are dissecting Lindsey's MySpace profiles and that of my daughters as well and I don't blame them but they don't know these girls for real. MySpace was their way of being cool and living outside the box - that's all. We are not perfect parents but we love our children and they may have their issues (as most kids do) but they are good kids.

I will pass on your well wishes for a safe return and again - Thank you for taking the time to reply to me.

My heart goes out to you. I can hear your pain in your words.

Most of us monkeys have been following missing person cases a long time. Some of us have had missing loved ones, some of us have known someone who was missing, many of us have took part in searching for a missing person listed on this forum (either on the ground or helping with donations for the volunteers) and all of us are advocates for the missing. We care, we love, we pray and we have hope that all these pages of missing people will find their way home, no matter what.

In caring and following so many cases, we know what you are just learning so painfully. That it does happen even in small towns. That it can happen in the blink of an eye. That the internet can be a dangerous place for young children. There are so many evil people out there and children trust so easily. What seems like a a "cool friend" that you talk to online, can easily be a 40 year old sicko...pretending to be a 12 year old girl.

It's a shame that we live in a world that are children are not even safe in their own backyard.

We look at each new missing person and we talk amongst ourselves, batting around ideas, looking for clues and trying to help in whatever way we can. It isn't always pretty for family members or friends to read. I am sorry for that. It can come across as harsh and unfeeling...which is the furthest from the truth.
Please know it isn't because we don't care. It's because we do care.

We celebrate with joy each time a missing loved one is found safe and we grieve and cry when a missing loved one is recovered.

We never give up hope. We want them all to be found.

I agree.  The tears have not stopped flowing since clicking on this thread.  I am glad to know about her myspace and what it meant.  I agree it is hard to monitor our children or what they see.  In school 2 years ago, my son saw a nude woman on the computer in the library there, even with all of the filters they have.  My son had an aide with him, he has autism, and quickly changed the screen after covering my son's face.  My son did not type in anything inappropriate.  This was middle school.  They never even told me about the incident, even though I sent a communication book in every day and someone wrote in the book that day.  Luckily, my son told me.  If he did not have autism, he probably would have been too embarrassed, he tells me everything, so far...

The people here really do try to help.  Some are born scolders, this may not help the current case, but there are people out there that may read this thread that do not know what kids do today.  That may help the next child from being missing after reading that.  I would not like to see things like that when I know what the real situation is.  We don't know everything.  In a way that is good because we can look at things from all angles. 

I have been thinking about you, in particular, and how much pain you must be in.  I am praying for you, your family, Lindsey and her family and friends.  Please hang in there.

We really do care.  We have all kinds of people here and each have their own way of showing it.

Please communicate with us on a regular basis and tell us what we can do each step of the way. 

Hopefully the next communication with you will be that she is alive and well.  Miracles happen every day.  I am praying for one for Lindsey's family and friends.

 ::MonkeyAngel::

KaraK  my heart goes out to your family and that of Lindsey's.  I pray for her safe return and that the family can remain strong until then.  The Amber Alert system may work at times but I feel it fails more times than works when every second counts.  Lindsey's brother must be going through his own guilt right now that he was not there to walk her home and my heart goes out to that young man. 

What if's will only eat you alive and though I have done what if's many times in my life it has never made anything better nor solved things.  Please know we have huge hearts and are passionate about children and their safety.  If there is anything we can do to assist let us know as there are so many monkeys with great skills that can help. 

I did a search for RSO's and there are only two within 2 miles.  Should be easy for police to interview them in a hurry.

KaraK my heart goes out to you and to Lindsey's family. It sounds like a lovely small town, I come from a small town, one doesn't expect bad things to happen, one feels safe in their environment, and I'm sure that is how the neighbors all felt, safe. My thoughts and prayers  ::MonkeyAngel::

When using the Grays Harbor Offenders Portal I found one more that did not come up in the 2 mile search.  There are 138 offenders in Grays Harbor with 14 of them being non-compliant in registering their addresses so who knows where they are.

http://www.co.grays-harbor.wa.us/info/sheriff/index.htm

Edward, here is a terrain map that should answer your question .

KaraK...my thoughts and prayers are with you and Lindsey's family!
thank you for coming on here and posting the facts of what happened that night that Lindsey went missing ......thinking of you....

Search intensifies for missing McCleary girl

06:47 AM PDT on Monday, June 29, 2009

By KING Staff Reports

Video: FBI helping in search for missing McCleary girl
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McCLEARY, Wash. - Grays Harbor sheriff's deputies intensify their search for a 10-year-old McCeary girl missing for more than two days.

Ten-year-old Lindsey Baum was last seen 9:15 p.m. Friday when she left her friend's house for a walk on Maple Street.

On Sunday, the FBI joined the search, helping the sheriff's department stop every car driving through the main part of town to see if anyone knows anything.

The sheriff's department says search teams will be back out Monday to search for Lindsey, this time enlisting the use of a helicopter. They will also bring back K-9 units because they know with more than 48 hours since Lindsey disappeared, time is of the essence.

me: now they are worried about time? ::shakes head::

"I just want her back. I just I need her back," said Melissa Baum, Lindsey's mother.

Lindsey's friend, Michaela Campen, is the last person known to have seen her. The girls were at Michaela's home Friday night, hoping Lindsey could sleep over.

"I told her you need to head home, it's getting dark soon, a half hour of light left.  She put on her shoes and headed home," said Kara Campen, Michaela's mother.

Lindsey was alone for that nearly half-mile walk.

Her mother called police shortly before 11:00 Friday night to report her missing.

"We're starting to think the worst because it has been two days now, with a small town if anybody knew anything they would have said something so there's a lot of despair," said family friend Melissa McCann.

Neither the family nor investigators believe 10-year-old Lindsay ran away.  They're checking ditches and byways, wondering if she fell victim to an accident, but ruling nothing out.

"The worst case scenario-she's the victim of foul play or some type of predator behavior," said Grays Harbor Undersheriff Rick Scott

Officers have contacted nearby registered sex offenders, revealing no clues.  Although there is no known evidence of a crime, the FBI has now joined multiple other agencies in the investigation.

The family says Lindsey argued with her older brother earlier in the day Friday and her parents recently divorced. But the family firmly believes neither was related to her disappearance.

Anyone with information is asked to call Grays Harbor E911 Center at 360-533-8765 or McCleary Police at 360-495-3107.

http://www.nwcn.com/statenews/washington/stories/NW_062909WAB-Mccleary-girl-missing-LJ.1a971644.html
video at the link

Thanks Northern Rose about the sex offenders in the area  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thanks Pink Angel for the update.

From FamilyWatchDog.us - shows eight within a five mile radius.

Jessy d Braun   Home   100 block of Heslep Lane
McCleary, WA 98557   0.73   
MICHAEL DAVID FEESER   Home   10 block of W Elma Hicklin Road
McCleary, WA 98557   1.76   
STACY NICKOLAS KUHN   Home   100 block of Stillson Road
McCleary, WA 98557   2.01   
Kuhn, Stacy Nickolas   Home   100 Stillson Road
Mccleary, WA 98557   2.04   
Holloway, Daniel G   Home   100 Bush RD
Elma, WA 98541   4.27   
DANIEL G HOLLOWAY   Home   100 block of Bush Creek Road
Elma, WA 98541   4.29   
LONNIE PAUL TURNER   Home   70 block of W PRAIRIE DR
ELMA, WA 98541   4.52   
Feeser, Michael David   Home   00 West Elma Hicklin RD
Mccleary, WA 98557   non-mappable   

Three of them are listed twice. Weird.

this is astounding...a small town ...our children are not safe anywhere...parents are going to have to realize this...and what a shame that this is the case...our children should be able to walk our streets no matter where they live and not have to worry about sex offenders and kidnappers...
stuff like this does not happen in Japan...my husband goes there a lot for business...women walk around all alone at any time, light, dark without fear of being raped or molested...why? because Japan and other countries do not tolerate child molesters or rapists, murderers...they are severely punished...that being said, I am sure that Japan and other areas  have their own other problems that the USA does not have! We really need to get control of the SO s taking over our streets...jmo...and this does not mean that a SO has Lindsey...just that there are too many in her area for that small of a town imo....

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Maple+St,+McCleary,+WA+98557&daddr=319+e+mommsen+road&geocode=&hl=en&mra=ls&dirflg=w&sll=47.054765,-123.266865&sspn=0.003604,0.009645&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=17

Google map.

How many sex offenders does it show in Elma (the next town over) @ the sight you were checking on NorthernRose?

I may have missed it, but how old is Lindsey's brother?

Three of them are listed twice. So there is five. Still a lot for such a small population area. jmo

These are only the identified ones. There are plenty of sickos out there who have never been caught.

It's not information that has been mentioned. I assume he is older than 10.

Search for missing McCleary girl gets national attention

Story Updated: Jun 29, 2009 at 7:27 AM PDT
By KOMO Staff

MCCLEARY, Wash. - Dozens of volunteers are taking back to the streets and woods of this small Grays Harbor County town for a third day in search for a 10-year-old girl who vanished Friday while walking home from a friend's house.

They'll be joined by FBI agents who are lending their expertise and experience in solving missing children cases. The FBI also will be bringing in more law enforcement personnel to assist.

Lindsey J. Baum was last seen between 9 and 10 p.m. Friday when she left her friend's home on Maple Street, where she had been visiting, said Dave Pimentel of the Grays Harbor County Sheriff's Office.

Lindsey was going to walk the four blocks to her home on Mommsen Road, which is roughly a 10-minute walk. But something happened in that short distance - Lindsey never arrived home.

Her mysterious disappearance has left police, family - along with the whole town - affled and concerned at the girl's disappearance in a town of 1,550 where everyone knows their neighbors.

The search is going national online as Lindsey's information is now on the front page of the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children web site.

A wide-ranging search was launched early Saturday in the town and the surrounding forests. The town was criss-crossed three times, but not a trace of Lindsey has been found. Even bloodhounds failed to pick up her scent.

Three times as many people joined the search on Sunday and many more were expected Monday, as they scour areas that weren't checked earlier.

Police are hesitant to call the girl's disappearance a case of foul play just yet, but the girl's family fears the worst.

"I've tried to keep the thought of somebody grabbing her out of my mind," her mother, Melissa Baum, said Sunday.

She says Lindsey argued with her brother on her way to a friend's house Friday night. She talked to her friend for a bit, then started for home as darkness fell.

The friend's father, Scott Williams, said he asked Lindsey to go home before it got too dark.

"She was here 10, 15 minutes, and then, you know, we said, 'You should probably get going before it gets dark,' and that was the last we heard of her," he said.

Witnesses say Lindsey seemed normal as she headed out around 9:15. Another friend even walked her part of the way, but Lindsey never showed up at her home.

"I want to think that everything's OK, but there's a part of me that thinks the worst," Williams says.

Now hope has turned to anxiety and alarm among frustrated search teams. The mother is also at a loss.

She says her daughter is upset about her recent divorce, but doesn't have money to run away - and has never tried to run away before. Her mom doubts at this point that Lindsey is trying to hide.

"If somebody does have her, I wish they would just drop her off somewhere where she can get to a pay phone and call 911 or call home, so that we can come and get her," she says, sobbing.

Melissa McCann, a family friend, said, "This is a small town. These things don't happen. And yet here they are. She comes from her friend's (house) a lot, so it doesn't make sense that she didn't show up at home. We're just baffled."

Lindsey's father lives in Tennessee. Police have contacted him, and he's not suspected of any involvement in Lindsey's disappearance.

Pimentel said it's strange that nobody saw anything unusual.

"Such a small community like this - you can't do much in a town this size without everybody knowing about it," he said. "Everybody in town knows she's unaccounted for."

Lindsey was last seen wearing a gray or blue hooded pullover sweatshirt, with blue jeans and black shoes. She has brown eyes, brown hair, and stands about 4-feet-9-inches and weighs about 80 pounds.

Anyone with information is asked to call the Grays Harbor 911 Center at (800) 281-6944 or the McCleary Police Department at (360) 495-3107.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/49428097.html

I get 5 in Elma, two who have no photo or address.

Found 5 offenders in 5 locations  Radius:  0.25 miles 0.5 miles 1 mile 2 miles   
 # Status Name Address City  Zip Type View Details
Photo Not Available 1           
 2  ROBERT MCCONNELL  600 block of W Main Street
 Elma 98541 Home Address   
 3  CORY KELLIS  800 block of W Anderson Street
 Elma 98541 Home Address   
 4  EUGENE MILLER  100 block of Strawberry Hill Road
 Elma 98541 Home Address   
Photo Not Available 5           


http://www.icrimewatch.net/results.php?AgencyID=54470&whichaddr=&SubmitAddrSearch=1&AddrStreet=800+E+Main+St&AddrCity=elma&AddrState=48&AddrZip=98541&AddrZipPlus=

Thanks so much hon! I am finding it disturbing how they are not keeping it updated with addresses and photos. And if these people are suppose to register and are not....why are they not back in jail?

No enforcement. These laws were put in place to protect the community and inform the community. You can have all the laws in the world against these monsters but if they are not funded or enforced, the laws are not worth the paper they are printed on.

Thanks

Welcome KaraK.  We at SM are praying along with you, Lindsey's family and the rest of the community that Lindsey returns home safely. 

Geography
McCleary is located at 47°3′19″N 123°16′8″W / 47.05528°N 123.26889°W / 47.05528; -123.26889 (47.055359, -123.268859)[3].

According to the United States Census Bureau, the city has a total area of 1.8 square miles (4.7 km²), of which, 1.8 square miles (4.7 km²) of it is land and 0.55% is water.


Demographics
As of the census[1] of 2000, there were 1,454 people, 555 households, and 376 families residing in the city. The population density was 800.2 people per square mile (308.5/km²). There were 583 housing units at an average density of 320.9/sq mi (123.7/km²). The racial makeup of the city was 94.36% White, 0.21% African American, 0.89% Native American, 0.28% Asian, 0.76% from other races, and 3.51% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 2.20% of the population.

There were 555 households out of which 32.1% had children under the age of 18 living with them, 50.3% were married couples living together, 13.7% had a female householder with no husband present, and 32.1% were non-families. 27.2% of all households were made up of individuals and 13.2% had someone living alone who was 65 years of age or older. The average household size was 2.48 and the average family size was 3.00.

In the city the population was spread out with 25.0% under the age of 18, 7.7% from 18 to 24, 27.0% from 25 to 44, 21.5% from 45 to 64, and 18.8% who were 65 years of age or older. The median age was 38 years. For every 100 females there were 91.1 males. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 87.0 males.

The median income for a household in the city was $30,769, and the median income for a family was $36,534. Males had a median income of $33,421 versus $25,417 for females. The per capita income for the city was $14,249. About 12.2% of families and 17.8% of the population were below the poverty line, including 22.9% of those under age 18 and 24.5% of those age 65 or over.

Lake Clara .. a small lake in the woods .. ??


Go to this link and choose ariel map to look around..

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?formtype=address&address=14920+Highway+99+Ste+108&city=Lynnwood&state=WA&zipcode=98087#a/maps/l::14920+Highway+99+Ste+108:Lynnwood:WA:98087-5024:US:47.863066:-122.283006:address:Snohomish+County:1/m:hyb:7:47.125634:-123.043577:0:::::/io:0:::::f:EN:M:/e

says they took out bloodhounds to search but nothing.  Were these trained "trailing dogs".  why nothing.  did the dogs not alert "ANYWHERE"?  That soon after she is missing how can a dog not hit the trail scent?  that is not right.  did they NOT take out trained trailing dogs.  If not, why not, and ARE THYE GOING TO?  Someone needs to find out and INSIST they do. 

they dogs should be able to find the scent and where it ends.  If it just ends, she probably got in a vehicle. 

the friend who walked her part of the way home would know which side of the road they were on when the friend left and where at, the dogs could start there and see how much farther she got down the road. 

I really hope they are doing this and just saying there was NOTHING.

I do not understand why scent dogs would not find her trail.
Did the dogs find her scent at her home?
If not, then they need different dogs.

If so, then what is going on?
There should have been her scent on the four blocks to her home.

Has anyone googled mapped the route from friend's home to her home?

Are there any attractions that might have distracted from her walk home?

This is so frustrating for her family and friends.

Welcome, and I agree, this isn't making much sense. The frustration must be horrible for family and friends. Could she have taken a different route?

her friend walked her part way home.  that friend knows exactly where they departed, they could start the trailing dogs right there.  something is not right about this.  or... they are not saying what they found out.

Something is not right at all, or like you say they aren't saying what they found out.

A wide-ranging search was launched early Saturday in the town and the surrounding forests. The town was criss-crossed three times, but not a trace of Lindsey has been found. Even bloodhounds failed to pick up her scent.
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that does not make sense!!!

Something is really wrong.
If there is no scent on the walk home,
is there a scent at the friend's house,
in the friend's parents car?

I pray for the best for Lindsey. 

there HAS TO BE scent, that is a given, and we KNOW there has to be.  So either they have the crappiest inexperienced dogs out there and need to get some other ones;  or they found her scent and know where it went or where it stopped and they just are not saying as not to alert someone. 

do we know the address of her house and the friends house so I can look on the map to see what is in between the two?

I agree, LE is just telling the news to say no scent found..

Hi Doubledecker

I looked up her address earlier.  It's 319 Mommsen St.  I couldn't find the friends.

They have to be, they must know something, and want it kept quiet for now.

it really must be that, because the fbi is on this case and they are not so stupid as to think there is no scent anywhere.  let me go back and read through the articles again.  See what they were doing before the feds got involved as opposed to what they are doing after the feds get involved. 

If she got in a car the scent would weaken or stop, usually weaken.  Dogs can trail a person in a car also.
Especially, if there is a window rolled down.  I wonder what the weather was?  was it cold enough to have the windows rolled up? 

if her friends walked her part of the way home, and they know when she left the friends house, then they know just about where she disappeared.  Can't be that far from where the friends departed and the rest of the way to her house.  I wonder who lives in this area along that road? 

thanks, I will get that on a map and try to find the friends address.  did they say the friends' name?  I can get the address if they did. 

I think the friends house she was at father's name is Scott Williams and the friend she was last seen with's mothers name is Kara Campen.  Kara's been posting here.

ok I have the friends father so I can get the address,
also
 last seen at 9:15 p.m. Friday when she left her friend's home on Maple Street

Lindsey was going to walk the four blocks to her home on Mommsen Road, which is roughly a 10-minute walk

well hmmm can't find the friend's house address.  gee.

I am assuming it is between 4th and 5th, west of Lindsey's.

I'll just use that til we find the exact address

They have issued a Code Amber News Service Alert for Lindsey - (CANS)
 http://is.gd/1inE0 

Thanks, I sure wish this would have happened sooner, but at least there is something. With this alert, will Lindsey's info be up on the freeways?

Snip from KaraK's article:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1890148/lindsey_baum_10_missing_from_mccleary_pg2.html?cat=9

Such torment  ::MonkeyNoNo::

No, sadly. It puts out information over the Amber alert ticker on websites/desktops/widgets. From the site:
293,331 Web site tickers and 141,613 Desktop tickers have been downloaded.

Every little bit helps though. Haleigh has a CANS Alert too.

Search for girl expands
By Rachel Thomson & Steven Friederich - The Daily World
Monday, June 29, 2009 1:42 PM PDT
10-year-old Lindsey Baum has been missing since Friday night.

McCLEARY — The search intensified today for 10-year-old Lindsey Baum who has been missing since Friday night when she failed to return home from a friend’s home just four blocks away.

Search dogs were being used this morning in marshy areas surrounding McCleary, and other areas that have been more difficult to traverse during the past two days of intense searching. A National Guard helicopter was to arrive this morning to search the area. And on Sunday, FBI agents were stopping literally every car coming in and out of town, hoping to find a lead.

So far, nothing conclusive has been found.

“It’s really frustrating to have a child disappear from such a tight-knit community but we have no evidence pointing to anything (suspicious),” Undersheriff Rick Scott said this morning. “This may very well be a criminal investigation, but we can’t rule out the possibility she might be injured or missing somewhere.”

“I have hope. As long as I stay busy I can get through it,” her mother, Melissa Baum, said this morning, surrounded by family and friends at the McCleary home.

Scott said more local residents will be interviewed today to help develop a timeline of events as the search expands into the more remote areas, including forests, creeks and drainage ditches. There are 25 law enforcement officers from various agencies who are on foot assisting the search, and 45 volunteers and search and rescue experts.

The National Center for Missing & Exploited Children carried the young girl’s picture and information on its home page for a while Sunday. She was listed in the database this morning, carrying her physical description: 4 foot, nine inches tall, 80 pounds, Caucasian skin, brown hair, brown eyes. Last seen wearing a light blue hooded pullover shirt and blue jeans.

She was walking from her friend’s house on Maple Street to her own home on Mommsen Road, a four-block distance, and was last seen at about 9:15 p.m. She was reported missing by her mother at 10:50 p.m. Scott said Lindsey appeared normal before she left the friend’s house. She had only had a bit of a sibling argument with her brother earlier.
Anice Bommerscheim | For The Daily World Tim and Sonnya Crawford, who own Grays Harbor Veterinary Services in Montesano, used bloodhounds Sunday in the search for Lindsey Baum.


Yesterday evening, FBI agents and local law enforcement officials stopped vehicles coming in and out of McCleary asking if anyone had seen Lindsey. The key hour is 9 p.m. to 10 p.m. Anyone who might have been driving or walking around McCleary at that time is asked to phone in to (360) 533-8765 or the McCleary Police Department at (360) 495-3107.

Police want to talk to anyone going through town at that time. Even people who don’t think they saw anything might know something relevant and it might come out when trained interviewers talk to them, Scott said.

People should not assume their information is unimportant, or that someone else may already have told police the same thing, Scott said.

Earlier Sunday, search and rescue teams went door to door and created maps of areas the 10-year-old girl might have been hiding or somehow found herself injured.

“Every one of these cases are different,” said Eric Rosenberg, spokesman for King County Search & Rescue, which was among the various agencies called in to help.

KOMO reports that searchers criss-crossed the town on Saturday three times and not even bloodhounds could pick up her scent.

No one in this town of 1,550 people is giving up hope that Lindsey will still be found alive.

“I’ve tried to keep the thought of somebody grabbing her out of my mind,” her mother, Melissa Baum told KOMO News  Sunday. “If somebody does have her, I wish they would just drop her off somewhere where she can get to a pay phone and call 911 or call home, so that we can come and get her,” she added, sobbing.

“We’re just trying to hang in there and not think about the worst,” Melissa Baum’s cousin Lori Kerr told The Daily World this morning.

Tami Koethe, a cashier at a neighborhood Shell Station, said local law enforcement reviewed video as part of the search.

Koethe has a pile of fliers with the little girl’s picture on it on the counter. She’s insisting anyone who comes in leave with one.

“It’s tense but we’re hopeful we’ll find her,” Koethe said. “She’s a happy little girl. Her family came in a lot.”

Downtown, businesses displayed her picture on their doors.

All day Sunday, just about anybody who could was out in the streets handing out fliers.

Scott said the FBI was called in because the federal agency has experience dealing with missing persons cases.

The girl’s father lives in Tennessee. Scott said law enforcement officials have been in contact with him, but he has had no recent contact with his daughter.

No Amber Alert has been initiated because no one saw anyone take her.

http://**/articles/2009/06/29/local_news/doc4a4922d27dd1d277472065.txt

Thanks

sorry for the long posts but I want to see who all lived between the friend's house and Lindsey's house so we can get an idea who she walked past.  She walked home from this friend's house "a lot" it says.  So someone along the way could have seen her more than this one time and have been watching for her.

those living on Maple Street

Universal Hair Design
114 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9663
(xxx) xxx-xxxx Edit- no phone numbers please
Company: Universal Hair Design
 


 •Mark Reed Hospital
114 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9663
(xxx) xxx-xxxx  Edit-No phone numbers please
Company: Mark Reed Hospital


 •Destiny Frahm
114 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9663
(xxx) xxx-xxxx Edit-No phone numbers please


 •Elizabeth A Fusselman
118 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9663
Household: Ted A Fusselman

 •Ted A Fusselman
118 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9663
Household: Elizabeth A Fusselman


 •Theresa D Palmer
119 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9663


 •Alona M Johnson
203 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9656
(xxx) xxx-xxxx Edit-No phone numbers please


 •Les H Sr Meadows Sr
211 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9656
(xxx) xxx-xxxx Edit-No phone numbers please


 •Kenneth S Strozyk
311 W Maple St
McCleary, WA
(xxx) xxx-xxxx Edit-No phone numbers please

•Lou A Strozyk
311 W Maple St
McCleary, WA
(xxx) xxx-xxxx Edit-No phone numbers please
Household: Kenneth S Strozyk


 •Beehive Assisted Living Community
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638
(xxx) xxx-xxxx Edit -No phone numbers please
Company: Beehive Assisted Living Community



 •Art Bergman
401 W Maple St, Apt 32
McCleary, WA 98557-9639
(xxx) xxx-xxxx Edit-No phone numbers please



 •Edna Birindelli
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638
(xxx) xxx-xxxxEdit-No phone numbers please


 •Arlin Burbidge
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638
(xxx) xxx-xxxx Edit-No phone numbers please
Household: Norma Burbidge


 •Norma Burbidge
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638
(xxx) xxx-xxxx Edit-No phone numbers please
Household: Arlin Burbidge



 •Oscar K Burkard
401 W Maple St, Apt 63
McCleary, WA 98557-9640
(xxx) xxx-xxxxEdit-No phone numbers please


 •Alberta D Campbell
401 W Maple St, Apt 128
McCleary, WA 98557-9642
Household: Thomas Campbell

 •Thomas Campbell
401 W Maple St, Apt 128
McCleary, WA 98557-9642
Household: Alberta D Campbell


 •Carl Challstedt
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638
(xxx) xxx-xxxxEdit-No phone numbers please


Phyllis Derline
401 W Maple St, Apt 68
McCleary, WA 98557-9640
(xxx) xxx-xxxx Edit-No phone numbers please


 •R Hamshar
401 W Maple St, Apt V3A
McCleary, WA 98557-9640
(xxx) xxx-xxxx Edit-No phone numbers please


 •Leslie Hyman
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638
(xxx) xxx-xxxx Edit-No phone numbers please
Household: Ruby E Hyman


 •Ruby E Hyman
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638
(xxx) xxx-xxxx Edit- No phone numbers please
Household: Leslie Hyman

 •Evelyn Juroshek
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638
(xxx) xxx-xxxx Edit - No phone numbers please


 •N E Lattin
401 W Maple St, Apt 115
McCleary, WA 98557-9641
(xxx) xxx-xxxx Edit - No phone numbers please


 •Frances Louthen
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638
(xxx) xxx-xxxx Edit- No phone numbers please


 •Cassy Mikulski
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638
(xxx) xxx-xxxx Edit- No phone numbers please
Household: M Mikulski


 •M Mikulski
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638
(xxx) xxx-xxxx Edit- No phone numbers please
Household: Cassy Mikulski

 •Tracie Peterson
401 W Maple St, Apt 69
McCleary, WA 98557-9640
(xxx) xxx-xxxx Edit-No phone numbers please


Webb B Peterson
401 W Maple St, Apt 69
McCleary, WA 98557-9640
(xxx) xxx-xxxx  Edit-No phone numbers please
Household: Tracie Peterson


 •Mildred Scheelke
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638
(xxx) xxx-xxxx Edit-No phone numbers please
Household: Jim H Scheelke


 •Marion Smith
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638
(xxx) xxx-xxxx Edit-No phone number please
Household: Susan Smith


 •Susan Smith
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638
(xxx) xxx-xxxx Edit- No phone numbers please
Household: Marion Smith


 •Maxine Snyder
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638
(xxx) xxx-xxxx Edit-No phone numbers please
Household: Richard Snyder


 •Richard Snyder
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638
(xxx) xxx-xxxx Edit-No phone numbers please
Household: Maxine Snyder


 •Jim H Stevens
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638

Household: Mildred Stevens


 •Francis Watters
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638

Household: Larry Watters


 •Larry Watters
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638

Household: Francis Watters


 •John F Wuthrich
401 W Maple St, Apt 67
McCleary, WA 98557-9640




Lois Wuthrich
401 W Maple St, Apt 67
McCleary, WA 98557-9640

Household: John F Wuthrich


 •Twyla H Bogar
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638


 •Jane Brisco
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638



 •D C Butterfield
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638



 •Dale D Dorning
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638




 •Helen M Fagan
401 W Maple St, Apt 62
McCleary, WA 98557-9640



 •Steve Fahrenwald
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638




 •Marjorie Farrar
401 W Maple St, Apt 65
McCleary, WA 98557-9640


Diana Foster
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638
Job title: Branch Manager
Company: Beehive Management Group


 •Shirley C Graves
401 W Maple St, Apt 133
McCleary, WA 98557-9642


Vivian Gross
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638

Household: Carol Murphy



 •Nellie Harrison
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638



 •Doris Hoffelt
401 W Maple St, Apt 126
McCleary, WA 98557-9642



 •Bill Hoffman
401 W Maple St, Apt 66
McCleary, WA 98557-9640



 •Richard Isaacson
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638



 •Zepha Jenks
401 W Maple St, Apt 108
McCleary, WA 98557-9641


 •Marie King
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638



 •Walter Kratcha
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638



 •Kenneth J Lindstrom
401 W Maple St, Apt 122
McCleary, WA 98557-9641


 •T Lines
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638



Barbara J Mcbride
401 W Maple St, Apt 132
McCleary, WA 98557-9642




 •Carol Murphy
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638

Household: Vivian Gross
 


 •Patricia N Nelson
401 W Maple St, Apt 73
McCleary, WA 98557-9640
 


 •Margaret Rygh
401 W Maple St, Apt 61
McCleary, WA 98557-9640


 •Dora Seaman
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638

 


 •Jack D Sharp
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638



 •Janet Simms
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638



Danny Tate
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638
Household: Jack Tate, Waneeta Tate, Lyle J Tate

Jack Tate
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638
Household: Danny Tate, Waneeta Tate, Lyle J Tate


Lyle J Tate
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638
Household: Jack Tate, Danny Tate, Waneeta Tate


Waneeta Tate
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638
Household: Jack Tate, Danny Tate, Lyle J Tate


W Toyra
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638


 •Gordon Whitcomb
401 W Maple St, Apt 61
McCleary, WA 98557-9640



 •Ginger Williamson
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638



 •Constance Woolsey
401 W Maple St
McCleary, WA 98557-9638

 


 •Harold S Gibson
503 W Maple St
McCleary, WA

Household: Steve Gibson


 •Steve Gibson
503 W Maple St
McCleary, WA

Household: Harold S Gibson


 •Shelly R Garlic
513 W Maple St
McCleary, WA
 Edit to remove phone numbers.  MB

They should have called them in right away. Clearly the small town police were overwhelmed and had no clue how to handle a missing person investigation.  jmo

Maybe just me, but in all the articles it seems to mention the arguement with her brother, and I wonder why? Why is that unusual for her to have an arguement with a brother?

Thanks for that doubledecker. You are right someone could have been watching her.

And these are the street on Mommsen, the street Lindsey lives on.  I have added only the ones she would have had to walk past

Susan J Strong
119 E Mommsen St
McCleary, WA 98557-9539
(360) edit - no phone numbers please

•Jeff Miller
131 E Mommsen St
McCleary, WA 98557-9539
(360) edit - no phone numbers please




 •Michael Poe
131 E Mommsen St
McCleary, WA 98557-9539
(360) edit - no phone numbers please



Lashelle Gore
301 E Mommsen St
McCleary, WA 98557-9542
Household: Robert A Gore, Lisa C Gore, Leeann Gore

Leeann Gore
301 E Mommsen St
McCleary, WA 98557-9542
Household: Robert A Gore, Lisa C Gore, Lashelle Gore

 

Lisa C Gore
301 E Mommsen St
McCleary, WA 98557-9542
Household: Robert A Gore, Lashelle Gore, Leeann Gore
 

Robert A Gorehome
301 E Mommsen St
McCleary, WA 98557-9542
Household: Lisa C Gore, Lashelle Gore, Leeann Gore



 •Sean Robles
315 E Mommsen St
McCleary, WA 98557-9542
Household: Terri Robles



 •Terri Robles
315 E Mommsen St
McCleary, WA 98557-9542
Household: Sean Robles


 •Dorinda Thein
319 E Mommsen St
McCleary, WA 98557-9542
(360) edit - no phone numbers please


Please do not post phone numbers.  We don't want anyone thinking that we approved of calling these people.  Thanks!

it looks like 401 maple is some huge apt complex, so no telling how many people are in and out of there. 

I'm a little confused looking at the map.  When you blow up the google map really large, mommens turns into fir street, then into mommens again, when going east. 

also maple jogs down part of 3rd street, before cutting over to mommens.  so it is hard to tell who might live on that part of the street. 

now where the address for lindsey is (where it comes up on google map) it shows as being fir street when you blow up the map. 

I wish I knew if this is correct.  hmmm.  hard to tell just who all she had to walk past.  but I will do the best I can and if it is not correct I can change it.  better to have too many people she had to walk past than miss someone who might be someone needed to be checked on. 

doubledecker thanks for your hard work.

Lindsey's friend's is approx 4 blocks from Lindsey's house, and is on MAPLE St.  I could not find the exact address so went to 4th street intersection.  It is probably closer than that as Maple runs into 3rd to jog over to Mommens. 
When you blow up the google map, 3rd shows as the old highway you see on this map(in yellow).  I don't know if you walk down the old highway or not, or if there is a parellel street which is 3rd. 

Memmons also turns into Fir Street then back into Memmons, but you don't see it on this map.  So this map might be a little bit off.  I will fix it later if we find out it in not exactly correct but this shows us basically where Lindsey was walking. 

I will use this map as a blank and keep adding anything we find of interest.

(http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww90/doubledeck/lindsey%20baum%20case/baummap1.jpg)

on the part of 3rd street where lindsey would have to cut over from where maple ends and mommens begins, it appears this is about the 100'-150's addresses of that street.  There is nothing after the address of 140, until you get to the 300's.

I will list everything before the 300's start.  I notice the 100 block seems to be city offices, including one for the sheriff

K & H Maxwell
[undisclosed] 3rd & Main
McCleary, WA
(360)Edit - no phone numbers please
Company: K & H Maxwell


•Linda Aola
100 S Third St
McCleary, WA 98557-9652
(360) Edit - no phone numbers please
Job title: Secretary
Company: City of Mccleary



 •Wallace Bentley
100 S Third St
McCleary, WA 98557-9652
(360) Edit - no phone numbers please
Job title: Mayor
Company: City of Mccleary



 •George Crumb
100 S Third St
McCleary, WA 98557-9652
(360) Edit - no phone numbers please
Job title: Sheriff
Company: City of Mccleary



 •Michael Devolio
100 S Third St
McCleary, WA 98557-9652
(360) Edit - no phone numbers please
Job title: President
Company: City of Mccleary


 •Mary Ghorngon
100 S Third St
McCleary, WA 98557-9652
(360) Edit - no phone numbers please
Job title: Executive
 


 •Bob Hunt
100 S Third St
McCleary, WA 98557-9652
(360) Edit - no phone numbers please
Job title: Administrator


 •Thelma Kruse
100 S Third St
McCleary, WA 98557-9652
(360) Edit - no phone numbers please
Job title: Director


 •Michael Mucha
100 S Third St
McCleary, WA 98557-9652
(360) Edit - no phone numbers please
Job title: Director
Company: City of Mccleary


 •Brian Shay
100 S Third St
McCleary, WA 98557-9652
(360) Edit - no phone numbers please


Wallis Ventley
100 S Third St
McCleary, WA 98557-9652
(360) Edit - no phone numbers please
Job title: Chief
Company: City of Mccleary



 •Shawn Ward
100 S Third St
McCleary, WA 98557-9652
(360) Edit - no phone numbers please
Job title: It/Internet Support
Company: City of Mccleary


 •Dyahcinna Rich
118 S Third St
McCleary, WA 98557-9652


 •Robert Goore
119 S Third St, Unit A
McCleary, WA
(360) Edit - no phone numbers please
Job title: Owner
Company: Mama Mias Take & Bake



 •Robert Gore
119 S Third St
McCleary, WA
(360) Edit - no phone numbers please
Job title: Owner
Company: Mama Mias Take & Bake



 •Yon Hacker
140 S Third St
McCleary, WA 98557-9652
(360) Edit - no phone numbers please
Company: Sam's Food Mart



 •Mason Kim
140 S Third St
McCleary, WA 98557-9652
(360) Edit - no phone numbers please
Company: Sam's Food Mart
 


 •Sam Lee
140 S Third St
McCleary, WA 98557-9652
(360) Edit - no phone numbers please
Job title: Owner
Company: Sam's Food Mart
 


 •Sam Moon
140 S Third St
McCleary, WA 98557-9652
(360) Edit - no phone numbers please
Job title: Owner
Company: Sam's Food Mart



 •Dan Nelson
140 S Third St
McCleary, WA 98557-9652
(360) Edit - no phone numbers please
Job title: Owner
Company: Sam's Food Mart

I just ran all the names listed on 3rd through so's in grays harbor county, no matches. 

ok np ::MonkeyCool::

I just ran(through grays harbor county so's) all the names I listed along lindsey's walk from maple 400 block and on mommens to her house.
no matches

anyone can think of anything needed to be looked up, let me know.  if I don't answer I'm over on the cantu threads.  but I will try to work on Lindsey's case for awhile here. 

I have a very very very bad feeling abou this case, and I am not going to post what I am thinking right about now.  I think the answer is online.  I'm digging!  It's ugly!

Comment on the latest Lindsey Baum article on King5.com:
"Lets look at the truth guys. This little girl was abused by her brother. He has choked her till she passed out chased her with kitchen knives and shovles. The McCleary police was called on the incidents and they took her back home CPS didn't even do anything for poor Lindsey. And her mom didn't treat her much better."



I don't know how true this is. It could just be some troll spouting a bunch of crap, trying to stir up trouble. If it's true though, perhaps brother should be looked at again. Especially since it's mentioned in all the articles she and him were fighting that night.

I had that feeling ...  LE better figure out who updated her web page..

can I have the link to that article comment page please

yes, and who is setting up all those sites for these young girls. The ones their families do "not" know about ::MonkeyRoll::

http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_062909WAB-Mccleary-girl-missing-LJ.1a971644.html?ocp=2#slcgm_comments_anchor



Edward, KaraK said on page 4 that it was a friend of Lindsey's that wrote on that "DISTURBED" myspace page of Lindsey's..."i'm on lindsey's mypsace cool" so I am guessing that friend has the password to that account and was on it.

http://www.myspace.com/224168248
http://www.myspace.com/dtk6012
http://www.myspace.com/445914790
http://www.myspace.com/wickeddiva13
more more more

lindsey's pic is all over the place on a LOT  of myspaces, even the people who don't know she has a myspace ::MonkeyShocked::

fiesty is a friend of Lindsey's. She is using Lindsey's picture that was in the news as her avatar. That is why Lindsey's picture is on those myspaces.

dd - the young girls are setting them up themselves, 10 year olds know more than most adults do when it comes to computers nowadays. They lie about their age, as most sites require you be 13 to sign up, they set them up at friend's house (who's parents may not notice or care) they set them up at school or at the public library.
 
They find a way.

I am not naive to what 10 yr olds CAN do or WILL do.  I just believe in this instance it is something way more than that.  just my opinion.  I won't say any more about what I think, and probably have said to much already, but I sure hope the feds are checking this out, that girl's pic is floating all over out there and anyone with half a brain ends up with her name and address.  A predator's heaven!!! grrr.  heck it is even over on a trucker site.  how nice

I don't understand, I guess I'm naive, did she put her picture all over, or someone else  ::MonkeyNoNo:: None of this makes sense, but I will say I got a horrible feeling come over me yesterday when I saw the myspace page with the shepherd on it.

I would like to know more about the brother, how old he is and who his friends are.  I'd also like to know what he did that will put him in Juvi.

feisty, one of Lindsey's little friends...changed her avatar picture to Lindsey's picture. Much like mine at facebook, is Nevaeh's.

So anyone feisty is friends with....friends, family, Lindsey's picture is popping up.

I would like to know that too, klaas. Perhaps if KaraK comes back, she can answer that question for us.

Me too, and the weird thing is, I haven't seen one thing about him. The only thing in the articles is that she had an arguement with him, I still say that is odd to put in an article. And now with that comment about he was hurting her, of course, if that is true.

VIDEO: Search Expands For Missing Washington Girl
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19894315/index.html

Thank-you, I see. I know she is only ten, but could she have an older boyfriend, and she is with him, I doubt it, but anything is possible.

::wide eyes:: I guess anything IS possible. I hope she is safe, somewhere. I hope they find her or she decides to come home or call if she is out there.

I would as well like to know more about the brother.   If the comments on the other site are even close to accurate than he is a troubled sole.  IF he has acted out with previous physical aggression towards Lindsey than there is a possibility that the fight they had could be key to the events which took place as she was walking home.

checking on news....Did anything come about with why the dogs didn't pick up a scent? If she walked to the home there would be that scent right? so no matter whay there would be a scent to and/or from the homes? So besides LE withholding information which is very possible, why would this happen?

Did someone watch Lindsey walk away? I didn't read that, but could have missed it. It always amazes me how a person can just vanish into thin air.

I live a three hour drive north of Seattle in the Fraser Valley of British Columbia.  At 9:30 PM tonight ... the sun had set.  There is not way a ten year old child should be on the streets alone ... at any time of the day but ... at night.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

In Canada it is illegal to leave children under the age of thirteen years without adult supervision in any situation.  My grandson is 11 years of age ... his brother is 9 years old  and ... both these boys have never has he been in a situation ... an environment where a care-giver is not within calling range.

We are not talking about a teenager where the reins have to been let out to some extent.  We are talking about a child whose every action should have been monitored.

I know that two mothers are hurting terribly ... I am not heartless but ... at the moment my heart goes out to a little girl who was allowed to walk the streets at 9:15 at night and ... had no way to defend herself against the danger that lurks.

Sincerely, Janet.

Massive search continues for missing McCleary girl
MCCLEARY: No leads days after 10-year-old vanished

JEREMY PAWLOSKI; The Olympian | • Published June 30, 2009

MCCLEARY – Police in this community of about 1,500 had no leads Monday on what happened to 10-year-old Lindsey Baum after she left her friend’s house on Maple Street by herself Friday evening to walk about a half-mile to her home on Mommsen Road.

On the third day of a massive search for the girl, a National Guard helicopter and a team of about 20 search-and-rescue officials, including dog teams, scoured the town. Members of the Thurston County Sheriff’s Dive Team also joined the search, looking in creeks and ponds, to no avail.

The mother of Lindsey’s 10-year-old best friend said Lindsey’s disappearance hasn’t really sunk in for her daughter.

“I don’t think she quite understands the seriousness of it,” said Kara Kempen on Monday in front of her home.

The last person to see Lindsey was a resident driving through town who saw her walking on Maple Street between Fifth and Sixth streets around 9:15 p.m. – about the halfway point between the two homes, Scott said. People said light was waning but the sun hadn’t gone down.

Lindsey was wearing a gray or blue hooded pullover shirt and blue jeans. Investigators have reviewed surveillance video from the downtown Shell Station that Lindsey would have walked by on the way to Mommsen Road, but it turned up nothing, Scott said. Detectives are waiting for additional video surveillance from local businesses.

LOOKING BACK

Lindsey left her cell phone at home before leaving to play with friends Friday, said Grays Harbor Undersheriff Rick Scott. Lindsey’s older brother had left the Maple Street residence before his sister after the two had a dispute over the bike Lindsey had borrowed from him that day – a common occurrence between frequently squabbling siblings, Scott added.

Kempen said her daughter Michaela had spent Friday with Lindsey and a group of other girls, swimming at a friend’s pool before they returned to the home on Maple Street. Kempen said her daughter and Lindsey were “almost inseparable” and loved to spend time together talking about “10-year-old girl stuff, boys and music, school occasionally.”

Kempen described Lindsey as a “chatterbox.” “She’s very, very talkative,” Kempen said. “One of those girls who only takes a breath when she absolutely has to.”

Linda Cunningham, owner of McCleary Video, said she remembers Lindsey coming into her store with a group of friends to rent movies around 8:15 Friday night. “They were all laughing and joking and having a good time.”

Cunningham called Lindsey “a smart little girl.”

“I just don’t see her willingly getting in a stranger’s car,” Cunningham said. “She’s too smart for that.”

WHAT’S NEXT

Sgt. Jim Dunn of the Thurston County Sheriff’s Office said Monday afternoon that there are still bodies of water that the dive team has not checked, including swamps southwest of town.

Scott said 25 law enforcement officers, including the agents from Seattle, were participating in the investigation.

Scott said investigators can’t rule out the possibility that Baum was abducted, or that she may have simply run off. He said investigators are desperately trying to find information that can narrow their search. “We don’t have a most-likely scenario at this point,” he said.

SEARCH SO FAR

At the command center Monday at the McCleary Police Department, a binder of mugshots belonging to Grays Harbor sex offenders was earmarked with pieces of paper to show offenders with a registered address in McCleary. A sheet of citizen interviews from a neighborhood canvass was stacked on the counter.

Scott said investigators are still following up by interviewing not only sex offenders who live in town, but transient sex offenders and offenders who have connections to McCleary. So far none of those interviews has yielded any concrete leads, he said.

Investigators have taken Lindsey’s computer into evidence, Scott added. Police have checked her MySpace page and the phone numbers she dialed and received on her cell phone without finding any new leads, he said.

A search of Lindsey’s MySpace page showed only the typical postings of a 10-year-old girl, things that showed her affinity for the movie “Twilight,” Scott said.

“Lindsey’s a very outgoing, very independent girl,” Scott said. “She’s socially active in her peer group.”

Scott said detectives have contacted Lindsey’s father in Tennesee, and there are no custodial issues between him and Lindsey’s mother, Melissa Baum. There is no reason to believe he had anything to do with Lindsey’s disappearance, Scott said.

Lindsey turns 11 on July 7, Scott said.

Police did not issue an Amber Alert for Lindsey after her mother reported her missing at 10:50 p.m. Friday, Scott said. Scott said an Amber Alert wasn’t issued because police had – and still have – no evidence that she was abducted.

The search for Lindsey continues today, Scott said. “We’ve been working everybody until the early evenings to the point of exhaustion,” Scott added.

Scott said “there hasn’t been a case like this for years anywhere in the county.”

Melissa Fulton, a McCleary hair stylist, said many local residents feel comfortable letting their children play outside or ride bikes around town until dark.

Said Cunningham at the DVD rental store, “I think that’s changed today. As of now I just think everybody’s had the biggest rude awakening of their lives.”

http://www.theolympian.com/southsound/story/896613.html

Yikes,in part of this video with the searchers walking.....is part of this route the route Lindsey would have walked?Looks really woodsy and rural.

2 things that bother me
1)I have read different reports about the brother.....he was walking her home from friends house,they argued and he left her walking alone.
Brother was walking her to the friends house,they argued and he left her walking alone.Now they argued earlier and brother left the house before Lindsey left to go to friends house.
2)Why did Mom wait until 10:50 pm to report Lindsey missing?
I have a few other questions but won't post them yet but this one bothers me a lot.I would think if Lindsey wasn't home by 9:30 pm at the latest......they would have alerted police sooner....anyway,it's almost as if 10 year old Lindsey was allowed to walk the streets until 9-10-11 at night.

There is a map a page or two back. Her walk was pretty residential with a few businesses she may have passed. However, there is a lot of wooded areas, ponds, creeks, marshes, around the area.

I am not good with maps but I know there are Monkeys here who are.Can someone do a Google map(birds eye view)of the route Lindsey would have walked and post a link to it?

Thank you Pink
Do you know her address and the friends house address?I'd like to look at a birds eye view of her route....like a road view.

Also in the last article posted they mentioned a security camera at a Shell station(?)they checked and no sign of her on that.Some articles say a friend/friends walked her part way home.I am wondering if anyone walked her part way home,where did they stop walking her and where is this Shell station on her route.

BUMPING MAP FOR KARMA.


It was still light there at 9:15. The sun was just starting to set. Kara, Lindsey's friends mom.....posted here on page four. IIRC

Thanks Pink
I saw that earlier and saw where Kara posted.I was hoping for more of a real street view of the route....I'll try to find one.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=maple+st.,+mccleary,+wa&sll=47.055183,-123.266344&sspn=0.013917,0.038581&ie=UTF8&ll=47.054102,-123.266344&spn=0.006959,0.01929&t=h&z=16

She was walking four block on Maple ST to Mommsen ST

Thank you Pink
That's the same map I just looked at but it won't give me a birds eye view....but I can still see her route pretty good.

Also I read earlier in this thread that she would have walked by a hospital but on the map the hospital is actually behind her house on Mommsen,in the opposite direction of her walk.

I'll try and post this map and hope I don't blow the margins.....the red star is Lindsey's home,I don't know how far she had to walk on Maple.There is also a big park she would have to past before reaching home.

OK,yikes,that didn't work well.....here's a street view map below....
http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Mccleary%2C+Grays+Harbor&state=WA&address=319+E+Mommsen+St+&zipcode=98557#a/maps/l::319+E+Mommsen+St:McCleary:WA:98557-9542:US:47.055683:-123.262305:address:Grays+Harbor+County:1/m:hyb:12:47.055683:-123.262322:0:::::/io:0:::::f:EN:M:/e

Good Morning Monkeys

I was just listening to the Seattle News (KIRO/KING?)  A surveillance video from a service station that Lindsey would have walked by on her way home was checked ... no Lindsey.  Apparently other surveillance videos from establishments along the route are now in the process of being viewed.

Janet
6:30 AM PT

Thanks. And again in another article mention of a fight with her brother. (Lindsey left her cell phone at home before leaving to play with friends Friday, said Grays Harbor Undersheriff Rick Scott. Lindsey’s older brother had left the Maple Street residence before his sister after the two had a dispute over the bike Lindsey had borrowed from him that day – a common occurrence between frequently squabbling siblings, Scott added.)

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Twilight - Final Trailer  PG13

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxjNDE2fMjI

I read in one of the articles that Lindsey would never get into a strangers car cause she is too smart for that...I thought of the tv programs that I have seen with children willingly going off with a perfect stranger in search of the strangers puppy even though they had been warned time and time again not to ever go with strangers for any reason...mind you this was an experimental tv program but it proved a valuable point..children are by nature trusting and want to be helpful to adults, not all children of course...but it only takes that one child to make the mistake..
hope that Lindsey is found safe...

http://www.kirotv.com/news/19886572/detail.html

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Mother Believes Missing Daughter Was Abducted
Posted: 3:10 pm PDT June 28, 2009
Updated: 6:35 pm PDT June 29, 2009

MCCLEARY, Wash. -- The mother of a missing 10-year-old girl said she believes her daughter was abducted when she walked home last Friday night.

A National Guard helicopter joined the search Monday for Lindsey Baum who vanished when she was in downtown McCleary between 8:30 p.m. and 10 p.m. Friday, while walking home from a friend’s house.

“Each hour that goes by, I am starting to get more and more panicky,” said Baum’s mother, Melissa Baum.

 
 

Lindsey wanted to spend the night at a friend’s house about six blocks from her own home, but her friend’s mother, Kara Kampen, told her no.

“I told her no you can't spend the night. If I had said yes you can stay the night, she'd be home now,” Kampen said.

Investigators monitored Lindsey Baum’s MySpace page for any clues but said the account has been inactive since she vanished and she left no posts indicating she was planning to leave.

"There was nothing that indicated any preplanned intention for her to run away or go anywhere," said Grays Harbor County Undersheriff Rick Scott.

Searching the Wildcat Creeks on Monday, the Thurston County Sheriff's Office dive team didn’t find any signs of the missing girl. Other officers took the contents out of Dumpsters making sure nothing goes unsearched.

"With the time that's passed now, it doesn't look good," Scott said.

Searchers said the route Lindsey would have taken from her friend's home to her own home is short and direct. Police said the girl was unlikely to get lost.

“We're convinced somebody took her," Melissa Baum said.

Scott said his department is not yet ready to conclude that Lindsey was abducted because there is no evidence to indicate that's what occurred.

On Sunday, police and FBI stopped cars traveling through town hoping to find anyone who may have seen something.

Police said the key to finding the 10-year-old girl may lie with anyone who saw the girl as she walked home in the small town of McCleary.

“I know she's alive. I know some people are thinking I'm crazy, but I feel it in my heart that she is still alive,” Baum said.

Volunteers have been handing out fliers to motorists and circulating them throughout the county. Search and rescue teams will still search throughout Monday night and continue to knock on doors.

Anyone with information should call the Grays Harbor Sheriff’s Office at 1-866-915-8299. Or send an e-mail to: soadmin@co.grays-harbor.wa.us

every parents nightmare...

thanks for the article Klaas...

Not one of my daughter's children (6-11) have their own cell phone and ... neither do their friends.  They are children.  Parents or designated caregivers are alway within calling/hearing range.

I agree with Scott in regards to sibling squabbling.  However ... considering Lindsey is missing it should be an avenue of investigation. 

How old is Linsey's brother?  I wonder if he appeared on the service station urveillance video?

Janet

They have yet to mention how old the brother is. He is older than her and not old enough to drive. So somewhere between 11-15.

cookie

I saw that program too.  Parents who insisted there was no way their children would go off with a stranger were shock how easily their children could be lured into a vehicle with a stranger.

Children cannot be expected/trusted to make mature decisions regarding their well-being in potentially dangerious situations.  This is why adult supervision ... for their protection ... is where it is at.

Janet   

Bumping this up for those that may not have seen it when posted earlier.

I saw Twilight among a theater filled of 10-13 year old girls. The first movie and book was pretty tame. It wasn't any scarier than a Harry Potter movie and the only "sex" was cuddling with clothes on and a kiss or two.

The series gets more dark, scary and more sexy as it goes on. Books 2, 3 and 4.

I am so glad my kids are in their twenties. The unfortunate thing is kids just don't stay kids very long. All the neighbor kids have cell phones, except one, who I over heard begging her mom for one, her mom said no. And as far as movies go, such as Twilight or others that may not be suitable, even if you say no, they go to a friends and watch. I found out years later everything I told my two girls no you can't see such and such, they had over at a friends. So even with best intentions, kids find a way. Very scary.

Thanks Muffy. I look back and think, even with supervision and best intentions bad things happen. I feel so bad for everyone, and again, a lot of people get a false sense of security, I know I did when my girls were growing up for awhile we lived in a small town, where I grew up, and you get a mind set that you are safe.

I really think that it is coming to the point where all of us will want to have GPS systems on our children. I think that it would be an awesome tool to keep track of our kids...Yes, we might be constantly watching our kids while in our care..But what happens when the child is visiting with other kids and perhaps the mother or caregiver turns her back for a minute to care for another child? and the unspeakable happens...a stranger lurking grabs one of the kids and takes off.....now with the GPS, the child can be tracked...
I have looked into GPS systems for my grand daughter ...she can't be watched every minute no matter how hard everyone tries...she goes to school, she goes to birthday parties...she has a life that is very social and not always with a family member...it is very scary that the world has come to GPS ing innocent children...but I feel that it has!
I am not opposed to young children having a cell phone I guess for this reason alone...a phone where the child can only call certain numbers or 911 if needed...would also have a tracking system on the phone...in this case, Lindsey didn't take her phone with her...sigh...
all just my opinions on the above...

I agree Janet but I also think, you can't watch and protect your child 24 hours a day, that's why it's important that educate and train your child how to react and protect themselves for those moments. There are safety programs out there that teach children what lures sickos will use to try and lure them, they do a lot of role play on what kids should do and how to react in different situations. They also teach them good and bad touch, how even someone you know can hurt you, physical abuse, school violence and bullying...and what to do in those situations. It's important to educate and empower our children. Every little bit helps.

cookie, GPS and cellphones, safety programs, are all good tools.

None of them are fool proof. Cellphones go dead or get lost or can be tossed should an abductor discover it. GPS bracelets or shoes can easily be removed and tossed. A kidnapper can snatch a kid from behind, never having a chance to react or scream.

They are all good tools. Like I said every little bit helps.

I think a lot of parents have a false sense of security with giving their kids cellphones. A cellphone is good way to keep in touch or keep tabs but they are not foolproof.

Search ramps up for McCleary girl

07:10 AM PDT on Tuesday, June 30, 2009

By KING Staff Reports

Video: Community on guard after girl goes missing
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McCLEARY, Wash. - Authorities in Grays Harbor county are ramping up efforts to find a 10-year-old Western Washington girl missing since last week.

Washington State Patrol plans to utilize a fixed wing airplane with a camera to aid in the search for Lindsey Baum, last seen 9:15 p.m. Friday when she left her friend's house to walk home in McCleary.

Crews plan to focus their air search on rural areas of McCleary where kids have been known to play. The camera will be able to take live and infrared pictures of the brushy area.

Grays Harbor sheriff's deputies viewed surveillance video from a Shell gas station, where Lindsey would have walked past on her way home, but police found no signs of her.

Residents still hold out hope for the 10-year-old girl. Two communities will hold vigils for Lindsey Tuesday night. One starts at 9:00 p.m. at the 10th Street Ballpark in Elma. The other starts at 9:30 p.m. at the main park in McCleary across from the police station.

Video

Missing since Friday

Raw SkyKING video of search area

Several agencies have joined the search for Lindsey Baum. Over the weekend, FBI agents stopped every car driving through the main part of town to question people. On Monday, Air National Guard helicopters searched the town and the woods surrounding McCleary, and divers searched creeks and ponds.

On Tuesday, Washington State Patrol crews plan to bring in search dogs and their search and rescue teams.

Investigators do not know if Baum's disappearance is an abduction or if she ran away. They have not found any evidence to rule anything out.

"It's very frustrating," said Grays Harbor Undersheriff Rick Scott.

McCleary is small, with a population of only about 1,500 people. Most people know each other, so Lindsay's mom Melissa finds it hard to believe her daughter is still close by.

"I don't think she's in McCleary. I truly... if she is still here in McCleary, I don't think it's good," she said.

Police say they need help from anyone who saw anything suspicious in or around McCleary Friday night.

"It's really important that individual realizes that they may be the one person who saw something, that to them was totally worthless, but to us is very important," said Scott.

Police urging someone to come forward is what Lindsey's mother asked for when she spoke with KING 5 News Sunday night.

"What if it was your son, or daughter, or your niece, or your nephew or mother that was missing, and there was no trace of what had happened to them, and what if I knew where there were or what if I knew some information and what if I didn't go forward and say something," she said.

Lindsey's father lives in Tennessee. He's been in touch with police and is not considered a suspect.

Police have ruled out all family members as suspects.

Anyone with information is asked to call the hotline that has been set up. The number is 1-866-915-8299.

http://www.king5.com/localnews/stories/NW_063009WAB-Mccleary-girl-search-LJ.1fc0b759.html

agreed...all good tools...but nothing is foolproof that is for sure!

If a missing ten year old little girl does not warrant an immediate Amber Alert  ... there is something very wrong.

Checking vehicles leaving the area 48 hours later is not acceptable.  I know the FBI have now been called in on the investigation but ... why ... in the process of elimination .. were surveillance videos of establishments on Lindsey's route home not viewed immediately?  This was discussed on the KIRO/KING(?) this morning

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet

Agreed Janet. On all points.

It's a small town, small LE force, not much crime. I don't think they have ever handled a missing child case other than the occasional late teen or a runaway, who shows up in a couple hours at a friend's house.

Unfortunately they are learning at Lindsey's expense.

Very unfortunate, very. And that myspace most certainly does not look like one of a ten year old.

fox news live..Lindsey's mom is going to be on in a few minutes...

I agree.  The unforeseen dictates.  Bad things do happen.

However ... parents do have the God-given responsibility to do their outmost to protect their children from the dangers that lurk ... through both education and supervision.  When a child is ten years old ... parents and designated caregivers have that ability but ... there has to be a will.

Ten year old children are taught to swim.  However ... that does not imply they should be afforded the "adult"  priviledge of swimming in a body of water without supervision.

Ten year old children are taught to access the computer responsibly.  However ... that does not imply that they should be afforded the "adult" priviledge of accessing and creating sites of their choosing without supervision/guidance.

Ten year old children go to movies and they rent movies.  However ... that does not imply that they are afforded the "adult" priviledge of unsupervised choosing of movies that are not rated in accordance to their age.


1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.


The following list was compiled for a newsletter by a former neighbour who did not suspect that his 12 year old daughter was communicating with a 21 year old sex offender on an online chat.  After all he "trusted" her.  This child was "in love".  Thankfully ... somewhere along the line ... his wife became aware ... LE became involved and ... "control" for daughter and her younger siblings is where it is at.

Janet

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CHILDREN AND THE COMPUTER

1.  Place computer in a central location in the home.
2.  Create blocks.
3.  Establish and follow through with consequences for chosing to disregard expectations/boundaries.
4.  Check history/cookies daily.
5.  Check expectations/boundaries of friends' parents.
6.  Protect computer access with a password when supervision is not available.

1 Corinthians 13:11 (New International Version)

 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me.



1 Corinthians 13:11



Paul is saying that youth (children) exhibit characteristics that define them as different from adults, and that those characteristics must be cast aside before one is really an adult. These characteristics are not just signs of youth, but are signs of immaturity at any age. However, this world is constantly pressuring and convincing the youth to believe that they are more mature than they actually are. Currently, the number one and two causes of teenage death are accidents and suicide. This demonstrates that mentally, emotionally, and morally, teens are unable to handle the pressures of adulthood, and that they crash before ever reaching it.

http://bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Bible.show/sVerseID/28677/eVerseID/28677

Anyways..
Take it for what ever you perceive it to be, what ever light shines down on you, and from what ever faith you may have.. Even if that is only believing in yourself
::MonkeyWink::

jmho

Edward

Thank you.

The quotation may be taken from Scripture and ... that is why I believe it but ... from my perspective it is just good old common sense.

There is little that my five grandkids (3-11)  are denied that they desire if it is not considered "illegal or immoral" by their parents' definition but ... there are definitely guidance, boundaries and expectation that go along with all those priviledges.

Janet

cookie

Has Lindsey's mother spoken yet?  I accessed FOXNEWS.com but ... could not find anything.

Thanks

Janet

The mother of a 10-year-old Washington state girl who vanished over the weekend pleaded for those who might have seen anything out of the ordinary to come forward.

Lindsey Baum was last seen walking home from a friend's house Friday night, about six blocks away from her home in the tiny town of McCleary.

Her mother, Melissa Baum, said on FOX News Tuesday that "if anyone has seen or heard anything — any little thing that they saw and thought, hmm, that's kind of odd," they should call police immediately.

FBI agents have joined the hunt for Lindsey, of Grays Harbor County.

"They have informed me that they are expanding the search," Melissa Baum told FOX. "At this point, it's being treated as an abduction."

Lindsey has been upset over her parents' ongoing divorce and may have run away.

Baum said the child's father was 3,000 miles away when she disappeared.

Grays Harbor Undersheriff Rick Scott said authorities canvassed the city Saturday and Sunday but didn't find any clues.

He said there's no evidence of foul play, but his agency is "beginning to investigate with that possibility in mind."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529582,00.html

was She was feeling sick about going home.. ?
Afraid of her brother.?
mo.

Anyone local know what route #108 (Old Olympic Highway) traffic patterns are like?  Is it a street with stop lights or more like a highway? 

Baum said she last saw her daughter when Lindsey, along with her 12-year-old brother Josh, headed out to Lindsey's friend's house in hopes she could get permission to spend the night at the Baum's house.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7966924&page=1

I'm not trying to argue with anyone here,honestly but Kara states that both girls were not supposed to be accessing MySpace,that they still did it thru the library and some of thier homes yet....it looks to me like Lindsey herself was posting comments on Kara's own MySpace page months ago?
Again,I'm not trying to start trouble for anyone but that doesn't make sense to me so I think I'll just keep quiet and see what happens.I hope they do find Lindsey safe very soon,she is in my prayers.

It is hard to imagine that someone didn't see something.

I saw that too Karma.  Would like to hear more from KaraK but since the FBI is involved, they probably put a stop to that?

Thank you Edward

Janet

I would think so right?Anyway...... :X

Girl's Mother Frantic After Lindsey Never Made it Home From a Friend's House
By SARAH NETTER
June 30, 2009

It was a route Lindsey Baum had taken many times -- a 10-minute walk down a densely populated suburban street between her house and a friend's.

But on Friday evening, the McCleary, Wash., 10-year-old left her friend's house for home and disappeared somewhere along the way.

"I think somebody took her," Melissa Baum said of her daughter, who was ready to enter the sixth-grade in the fall. "I'm trying to constantly push away the bad thoughts."

Grays Harbor County Undersheriff Rick Scott said search efforts have escalated in the days since Lindsey's been missing from volunteers on foot -- still the most common tactic used -- to scent dogs, horses, ATVs and helicopters.

"We're not ready to give up hope," Scott told ABCNews.com.

Baum said she last saw her daughter when Lindsey, along with her 12-year-old brother Josh, headed out to Lindsey's friend's house in hopes she could get permission to spend the night at the Baum's house.

Baum said her children began squabbling over the use of Josh's bike on the way there and were stopped by a family friend who sent Josh home to end the argument. Lindsey continued on to her friend's house. When Lindsey's friend found out she couldn't stay the night, Lindsey headed for home around 9:30 p.m.

"When she wasn't home by 10, I started to get nervous," Baum said, adding that 10 p.m. is the curfew for her children.

She began calling Lindsey's cell phone, only to find that her daughter had left it plugged into the charger. Initially thinking that her daughter must have met up with friends in the neighborhood, Baum set out on foot to find her daughter.

But there was no sign of her. Eventually, her friend's parents joined the search by car. Baum even let her daughter's beloved German shepherd Kadence off leash in hopes the dog would help find her. Finally, around 10:45 p.m., Baum said she called police.

Baum described her daughter as outgoing, talkative and mature for her age. She loved to read and write and had big plans for her future.

"She insisted when she grows up she's going to be an author and an illustrator and a veterinarian," Baum said.

Police Search With Dogs, Check in on Sex Offenders

Scott said that, with the FBI's expertise with missing children, authorities have been conducting a simultaneous search and rescue operation with a criminal investigation, hoping to find leads.

The latter includes checking up on the resident and transient sex offenders in McCleary and neighboring communities and reviewing surveillance videos.

Scott said that there are a few businesses located just off the street Lindsey would have used to get home and while the little girl did not appear in any of the videos, police have gotten clues about who was in the area at the time she disappeared.

Scott said witnesses were able to put Lindsey within a couple blocks of her house just after 9:30 p.m. The last person reported to have seen her, he said, was a neighbor on her way to work.

Authorities had initially looked at the case as a possible runaway, but Scott admitted that "it's becoming less likely as time goes on."

Baum said she knows her daughter would not run away. She had been upset about her parents finalizing their divorce back in April, but had known it was coming, Baum said.

And Lindsey knew better than to go somewhere with a stranger -- it was something they had talked about previously.

"I think she's alive," Baum said. "I really and truly feel that strongly in my heart."

Baum said she and Lindsey had been planning to celebrate her upcoming July 7 birthday by going with a group of friends to the new "Harry Potter" movie a few days later.

Instead, the family is now trying to cope with a life without Lindsey in it. Baum said her son Josh is racked by guilt that he argued with his sister and left her to visit her friend on her own. And even Kadence is suffering the loss of a friend, refusing to eat normally.

Baum said she's baffled that no one has reported seeing anything the night Lindsey disappeared, unusual since the street she took home is continuously lined with homes.

"If we can find her," she said, "we can work through anything."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/Story?id=7966924&page=1

Thanks Pink Angel!

Interesting comment by Melissa:

"If we can find her," she said, "we can work through anything."

no rose colored glasses

When you are not looking for anything suspicious ... then it is easy for something that should be suspicious not to register.

If Lindsey was not calling attention to herself ... if Lindsey was unknowingly abducted by someone known to her ...

The following despicable incidence involved a father of the friend of the little girl who was victimized.

Janet

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6-Year-Old Girl Escapes Would-Be Rapist While Held In Leg Shackles
Monday, June 29, 2009

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529330,00.html


Man held in attempted rape

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2009/06/30/whdh.girl.attempted.rape.whdh

McCleary’s still searching
By Steven Friederich - The Daily World
Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:49 AM PDT

The mother of a 10-year-old who has been missing since Friday night says she believes her daughter is alive, but she has come to believe that someone took the girl and that she is no longer in the McCleary area.

“I don’t think she’s in McCleary. I don’t,” said Melissa Baum, mother of 10-year-old Lindsey Baum. “Why would they keep her in McCleary? Whoever took her, went on the freeway. There are three ways to get out of McCleary and all three ways there are freeways within five or 10 minutes.”

But Melissa Baum’s hope remains strong. “I think she’s still alive. I feel it in my heart that she’s alive,” the mother said. “I’m just trying really hard not to focus on the other things so I don’t fall apart. Because I know in my heart she’s still alive. But every hour that goes by, I just keep getting more and more anxious because how much time do we have left? …

“And I just wish, I’m begging whoever had her will take her to a gas station or a grocery store or a restaurant where she can go to a pay phone and call 911 and say ‘I’m Lindsey Baum’ so we can trace her and find her. Just let her go. Give her a chance. Let her come home.”

As the intense search for the girl entered its fourth day this morning, Grays Harbor County Undersheriff Rick Scott says the evidence is pointing more and more to an abduction scenario, but he has no proof one way or another and will not call off the continuing search of hard-to-get-to brush and waterways.

“The search continues this morning,” he said.

A Thurston County dive team was called in yesterday to search creeks and swamps. They’ll be back this morning. A National Guard helicopter took high-resolution aerial photos, which were being examined in great detail this morning. A State Patrol airplane was to begin helping this morning.

 More FBI agents also arrived Thursday to help with the search.



Tonight, two candlelight vigils are scheduled. At 9 p.m., a vigil will be held at the 10th Street Ballpark in Elma. A second “candlelight community prayer gathering” will be at 9:30 p.m. tonight at Beerbower Park in McCleary.

Family friend Melissa McCann said those who have wanted to volunteer but have not been used should show their support by attending either vigil. The family has also set up an account at Timberland Bank to help cover its expenses. The account is in Lindsey’s name. Letters or cards to the family can be sent to Box 1124, Elma, WA 98541.

Scott said detectives have received one key tip. Shortly before the girl disappeared, there was a sighting of her by a neighbor who was heading to work.

Lindsey was leaving a friend’s house about four blocks away between 9 p.m. and 9:30 p.m. Friday, traveling from Maple Street to Mommsen Road. Scott said a neighbor spotted her “two-thirds of the way home,” still on Maple Street.

“We have her coming back from the residence alone consistent with the friend and friend’s family,” Scott said. “We cannot put her to the main street here or to the street in front of her house.  This wasn’t somebody who said she saw someone who looks like (Lindsey) or might have been; she was very confident it was Lindsey because she knew her and was on her way to work.”

The “main street” is South 3rd Street and it is a busy thoroughfare near City Hall, connecting to freeways in multiple directions. The police station is within sight of the intersection.  The street requires a crosswalk and pedestrian control walking signals. On Friday, the streets were lighted. The sun was still out.

There is a Shell gas station at the intersection and a bus station with a bench that looked like it was in regular use at least on Monday. Scott said video surveillance at the Shell station are being reviewed.

If anyone was waiting to board a bus between 9 p.m. and 10 p.m., buying something at a local business or driving through the City of McCleary at that time, they should call the tip line immediately. Someone might have seen a car of interest and not even known what they saw until asked questions by investigators, Scott said.

The free tip line is 866-915-8299 or e-mail soadmin@co.grays-harbor.wa.us.

“She wasn’t intentionally supposed to be alone,” Melissa Baum said. “She was with a friend and was supposed to come back together. And it was a fluke because normally she would have her cell phone with her. She takes her cell phone everywhere.”

But the cell phone battery was dead and she plugged it in five minutes before leaving.

Scott said investigators have gone door to door and are looking for everyone who may have been home along Maple Street and Mommsen Road. Even if neighbors weren’t home, Scott said he wants to know where they were.

Scott said investigators have touched base or are touching base with the half dozen or so registered sex offenders in the McCleary area.

“We’re not just looking for the sex offenders who live in the City of McCleary but those sex offenders considered transient and have not provided a permanent address and those who have ties to east Grays Harbor,” he said.

Investigators have searched Lindsey’s computer, her e-mail and MySpace pages but have found nothing suspicious and no messages that she intended to run away.

Investigators combed cell phone records and have found nothing.

“We’re ready and waiting,” Scott said. “We just need that specific information that will point us in the right direction. Absent that evidence we’re just having to be comprehensive throughout. We’re having to look at it as a missing, lost or runaway child. But we’re also having to now focus that this may be a worst case scenario with a predator or someone with a predatory motive.”

Just about everyone who could was out on the streets of McCleary or in the hills calling Lindsey’s name.

Stephanie Ross of Aberdeen plastered a poster with Lindsey’s face on the back of her black shirt and spelled out her name in giant letters on the front.

“I have a 13 year old daughter and if this happened with her I would hope the community would come out and do what they could to find her,” Ross said.

Julie Culbert, of Aberdeen, said she had wanted to volunteer to help find Lindsey. When she wasn’t needed, she went “out into the boonies” on her own.

“We’ve been out through all of the hills, the logging roads, we’ve been out, way out there,” Culbert said.

Just about any tip was being accepted. A bus driver with Grays Harbor Transit stopped by the operations center to mention a suspicious vehicle he had seen.

Dan Simmons of Elma stopped by to give a tip that he saw a girl who looked like Lindsey in Costco. He wasn’t sure exactly.

“But it’s been on my mind ever since,” Simmons said.

Scott said he’s not sure how many unofficial searchers there are, but he’s sure there are plenty.

In Aberdeen, at the new Backstage Espresso store on I Street, signs of Lindsey are on the door. At the historic Courthouse in Montesano, there are signs with her photo. All over McCleary, the signs dominate, with volunteers stopped people in traffic handing out fliers.

Scott said his official search team consists of 25 to 30 law enforcement officers and 45 search and rescue experts with German shepherds, blood hounds, dive tanks and special gear.

At this point, Melissa Baum said she’s so desperate for information that she’s turning to a psychic for answers.

“The psychic knows my aunt and wanted to help,” Baum said.

Lindsey turns 11 years old on July 7. The whole family wants her home for her birthday.

“This isn’t supposed to happen to me,” Baum said. “This doesn’t happen. I know it’s not my fault. But I feel guilty. Why didn’t I automatically go with her? My 12-year-old son thinks it’s his fault because they had a minor argument. But it all falls on the person who took her.”

http://**/articles/2009/06/30/local_news/doc4a4a53f8addf4694664243.txt

"My 12-year-old son thinks it’s his fault because they had a minor argument."

http://**/articles/2009/06/30/local_news/doc4a4a53f8addf4694664243.txt

That answers one of the questions...

I thought so also  ::MonkeyEek::

I read that to mean that if Lindsey was a runaway and came home, that they could work through it. jmo

It sure does, and if that is true about juvie, he is very young.

I agree.

Last night I questioned an 11 year old son ... of longtime neighbours ... when he came to the door collecting lap pledges in regard to the swim team he is on.  His father was waiting for him at the bottom of the driveway.  Out of curiosity ... considering he has three older siblings ... I questioned him if he knew of anybody in "juvie".  He did not have a clue what I was talking about ... what the terminology implied.

Monkeys ... it appears that the lifestyle in our small close-knit community does not reflect the relaxed lifestyle in McCleary, Washington.  That may be the reason I am not comprehending this entire situation.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Janet

I have never known anyone in juvie either, and have no idea the age, I thought this boy was very young for such a thing, but I really don't know.

this is the very same thing I noticed right off too.  they are "friends" on the very myspaces belonging to the people who say the girls are not suppose to be on there and no one knew about it.  I too just decided to be quiet until someone else "got it".  thanks.  should we just be quiet about what we are finding?  because it is not going over well?  I am really wonderig, do I just sit and say nothing about what I think because it might not go over very well?  or should I just say it?  ugh. 

sorrry but I see what I see.  glad you posted that, I don't feel so awful about thinking the same thing now. 

Has anyone found anything to confirm that her brother WAS going to juvie?  Sometimes younger sisters just wish for things like that, but in reality it's not.

Are we sure that the brother was being abusive towards his sister or was it just sibling fighting?

I get a bad feeling about this as well, but I think we should reserve judgement until we have a few more facts.

Doubledecker, you should post what you are finding.  Facts are facts.  From what I could see Lindsey was posting on Kara's site.  Perhaps the girls were supposed to only be going on familys sites...I don't know...after all the nasty things said about the mother of Victoria Stafford, I'm alot more hesitant to point fingers and say nasty things.

I noticed that too and bit my tongue. I am reassured by what the police said in the article I posted on the page before:

It said in the article a page or two back that a neighbor saw them arguing and sent the brother on his way. The argument took place on the way to the friends house.

Nothing has been said about the brother and juvie. Other than the mention on Lindsey's myspace.

I am in no way trying to be nasty or to "blame" anyone for mistakes they might make in thier lives; God knows I have made plenty of my own and I was never a saint by any means.  So many things in my life I had no idea the impact they would have on others or what being careless might lead to.  I know so much more about life now and what is and is not appropriate, and believe I learned many hard lessons along the line.  Did I appreciate people pointing them out while I was doing them NO I did not and would be the first to tell people to __ off and not worry about what I was or was not doing.  I believe anyone and everyone makes some really big boo boos in their lives, that is just how life is.  we live, we hopefully learn from whatever it is we might do that is something we might should not do.  So for me to say anything with the "intent" of just trying to point at something someone might have done which might not be what I think they should or should not have done, is not what I am doing at all.  I care about people no matter what, but when you see something that might cause something, it is a good thing to point it out so the person might realize it is not the best thing in the world to be doing.  Yes, it makes people mad, and that is understandable, but to sit and just say nothing is not good either.  its none of my business what adults do, if they choose to allow their kids on the net, it is none of my business, and each child is different in what they can handle and be responsible or whatever. 

But here is what I am seeing(and obviously I am not the only one seeing it). 

These girls WERE on the myspace, AND someone had to KNOW THEY WERE, because they are on their myspace pages and the pages of their friends.  so to say no one knew they were on there is crazy.  So what other sites were they on under what names?  someone needs to look and find where all these girls photos and names are floating around with mccleary was attached to them.  We have a town of 1500 people with a first and last name of young girls.  If I can find where they live, so can some weirdo. 

I am pretty liberal when it comes to allowing kids to have some responsibilities of their own, IF the kids can handle it.  Maybe these girls could handle it to some extent.  Maybe they were allowed on there.  Maybe no one realized what could happen.  Most people don't realize there are so many weirdos in the world.  I use to live in a tow of 5000 people, no one locked the doors, kids ran all over, nothing happened, everyone knew one another, it was safe... and I had no idea at the time that there were so many "crazies" out there.  I am sure the people of mccleary think/thought the same thing about their town.  I understand the mentality of a tiny town atmosphere where everyone knows one another.   And until you get on these forums, or something like this happens to you or someone you know, you just don't understand just how bad it is. 

I think a predator who saw these myspaces with these girls on there would zero in on their pages.  I see things, others see things that might not mean anything to the people in the famliy, but to others especially sicko, this is what they look for.  They interpret it to mean anythig they want it to be, so they search and find these kids.  It's no ones fault but the sicos.  but if they were on there and if they were on other sites, someone needs to find all the sites with all the names and not say they were not on there or allowed on there.  They were on there, some of the content is not good, even if it was innocent to them.  some sicko it going to take that the wrong way.  so rather than say they were not allowed on there and no one knew it, we need to figure out where all those photos are.  and try to track where someone could have ran innto them. 


I'll come home. have to leave right not for the vet, but I will get onlie when I get home and try to track whatever I can. 

I am sorry to her family if they think I might be pointing fingers or whatever, I'm not, I just want to make certain people are tracking those kids pages on the net and find out who else was tracking those girls.  I really believe the content on those pages was such to lure weirdos.  and until we all admit that it could attract the weirdos ad start looking, we are not going to find who might have her if someone has her.  ugh


will be back i a few hours. 

Tamikosmom I am having the same issues you expressed  in connecting to some of the facts.  At 10 my daughter did not talk about boys (except to complain her brothers would not take her with them paintballing) , set up myspace accounts, or have a cell phone.  Her curfew was not 10pm to be home, she was in bed by 9:00pm.  - well actually 8:30 with a 1/2 to read before sleep.  She never walked, road her bike, or rollerbalded anywhere by herself.  If she was going next door I would be on the driveway watching her and we lived in the sticks for goodness sake!

From my own experiences Lindsey and her friends are far more "pubescent" than the 10 year old girls around here.  I for one need to take this into account when looking at this case.  I hope for her safe return and pray for strength for the family.

doubledecker excellent post, what you wrote is the truth, it is reality.

Thanks DoubleDecker for putting it all out there.  I saw that yesterday too, but didn't say anything either.  I agree, LE needs to have ALL the information, whether it leads anywhere or not.  Covering eyes is not going to make it all go away.  JMO.

I have just one child, a son (21 now) but back then...at 10 years old -  I had just about the same rules as you. Bed at 8:30, 9PM was lights out. He would never ride his bike, skateboard or roller blade unless with a group of friends or with me or his uncles. Never on a computer unless needed to complete a school assignment and he didn't have a cell phone. Girls were not even a thought. They were "like so gross"

I am off for a while. My prayers are with Lindsey, her family and community. I hope this little one is found soon and SAFE!

I totally agree with DD's comments.  We are here to help, research the facts, bring much needed awareness, pray, build up hope, continue to pray, and do whatever we can to bring children home.  If that means prodding and jabbing to get answers to logical questions, so be it.  Yes, the internet has its good sides, and unfortunately an evil side.  Is everyone aware of the evil side -- not yet, but hopefully will be more informed each and every day.  Times have changed, what we experienced growing up and what children growing up today experience is almost like a 180.  What these children think about and deal with, I never thought of or dealt with when I was their age . . . and some of it, even now in my old age.
We live in a land of freedom of speech and for that I am grateful.  But when people use that speech to ridicule, give nonconstructive criticism, insinuate, do the  "I would never . . . ", that does not inform, that does not help, that is not hope, and that assuredly is not prayer.  I realize this forum is open to discussions and opinions, as well it should be.  But when a family are in the midst of the crisis . . .
Matthew 12:33-37 for those who are interested.
JMHO

Thank you Northern Rose.

Janet

I am home now and will start digging. 

We need to find all the places on the net these girls were either posting, had their pics posted, had their names posted, their addresses etc, and where all these things link to.  On many cases I have dug and bumped into something on the net the police did not know about. 

In just a few minutes I found lindsey's pic with her name on it floating all over. anyone can see that, trace it straight back to her myspace and get her town name.  after that it is so easy to find her in real life, find all the places on the net she goes etc. 

I didn't even begin to keep tracking her photo with name, I just spent a few minutes.  I'm going to start digging and following her photo from one site to the next and see what all I can find it.  I have to say having her name and those photos of her and her friend and some of the other content on those pages the way it is, is not good at all. 

another thing is this. 

I know a lot of people who have kids this age who are very much like most of the posters on this thread who say they never let their kids do this or that or their kids don't act "mature" like this etc.  But then I also know a lot of kids who DO act like this at that age.  I don't judge them or the parents, I just figure they grow up in different circumstances and environments and it is just how it is.  So my question is, are these kids of the naive group who act like the 10 years old most of you know, or are they of the group of 10 yr olds who act like 17-18 yr olds.  It would help a lot to know. 

First thing I wonder is who made the websties?  who thought up the content.  Are these 10 yr olds who think like older teens?  or are these 10 yr olds who think like the 10 year olds most of you are use too?  if they are the younger thinking type of 10 yr olds who is designing the website?  If they are of the older thinking type of 10 yr old who are use to that type of content then what are their interests and who do they hang out with.  Are they around old teens? adults?  where they learn "older things". 

It really does matter what these kids are like. It matters what is their THINKING age, not there age in years they have been on the earth.  one of the things on the site said "I don't like boys who cheat".  so you would think they have boyfriends?  or want one?  or are interested in talking to boys or hanging out with boys.  are they in teen chat rooms? are they talking to boys online they do not know?  these kinds of things help us to try to figure out where Lindsey MIGHT HAVE come into contact with someone who she might be with, whether it be willingly or whether she was abducted by someone she met who was older or met someone onlinne who she thought was young and was not.

where do her and her friends hang out?  Who are they hanging out with.  What are their interests. What sites on the net would interest them? the more we know what these girls and friends are really like and their interests and the "age" they "act" the easier to locate who they might have come into contact with.   

No problem DD,I saw you posting that last night(your doubts,your concerns)and didn't mean to leave you out there swimming alone but sometimes I do sit back and read everything I can get my hands on before I start asking questions.I'm really not trying to hurt anyone in the family or friends circle but sometimes I just cannot stop myself from questioning things.I sure don't want anyone to think I am bashing Lindsey's family or friends....just looking for the truth.
So don't feel bad DD
I also noticed that the messages(a couple of them)seemed kinda....racy for a 10 year old to be posting on an adult's MySpace....really shouldn't even be posting that on anyones sites.

Very well stated DD
The only way to look at it,realistically,IMO

All aspects encompassing Lindsey's liberal lifestyle must be revealed and taken into consideration if LE is able to conduct an effective investigation into her disappearance.  The truth will not be forthcoming by pretending that Lindsey led a very sheltered life.

I concede that I harbor some anger but ... I do not have a heart of stone.  My heart breaks for the two mothers involved.  Both woman must be experiencing a living H--- as they question the choices made last Friday evening.

However ... ... a little missing girl named Lindsey is my focus.

Janet

Nancy Grace - HLN

Lindsey Baum is being discussed right now.

Janet
5:47 PM PT

The person who has abducted Lindsey is a traveling salesman. Possibly in Insurance, Home Improvement, Gutter Protection, Roofing, Wet Sealing a basement.

This person was passing through her community or a surrounding community and saw a crime of opportunity.

The abductor drives a SUV or some type of truck that lends credence to his profession.

dd, as you know, I'm not good at researching, but I am a wiz at sorting.  If I can help, let me know.  In the meantime, I will be praying for Lindsey's safe return, her family, her community, LE, FBI and all other searchers and researchers.
This past Saturday, I officiated at the funeral for a 17-year old young lady who hung herself.  After the service, I heard folks standing around in little groups saying, " . . . if she had been my daughter . . . if I was her grandmother . . . if she were my sister . . . if I were her father . . . when I raised by children . . ."

if you go from Kayla's page, you get to ashley's page
http://www.myspace.com/Ashley_Cowgirl_up
another "13" yr old mccleary girl

from kayla's page you go to mckenzie's page where Lindsey had been posting as disturbed. 
mckenzie says she is 18, but she does not look it.
her mood is scared today
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Rob...good to see you! how did you arrive at this profile of who might be involved with Lindsey's disappearance? interesting...


snip rob:
The person who has abducted Lindsey is a traveling salesman. Possibly in Insurance, Home Improvement, Gutter Protection, Roofing, Wet Sealing a basement.

This person was passing through her community or a surrounding community and saw a crime of opportunity.

The abductor drives a SUV or some type of truck that lends credence to his profession.

more 13 year old friends who are talking about lindsey
http://www.myspace.com/hazel_eyed_beauty9

from mckenzie, another 13 yr old
thinks the ranger is cute.
do these girls like older guys?
http://www.myspace.com/bella_ily

did I read that this 10 yr old girl had a 10 PM curfew?? tell me that I did not read that correctly....

I hope that this little girl is safe and is found soon...

from fiesty's page/this is kayla's page

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i miss her too it's ok they are going to find her
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who's kates bf?PurpleSunglasses at 10:45 PM Jun 20
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In most states you can go to juvie at age 10...it shocked me when I found that out....just babies still at that age.

I think that if she were going to leave on her own that she would have taken her cell phone just to young to realize that would be a tracking device and also would not have been seen so close to making it to her house....I bet whoever took her did not know that she was almost home....I wish that she would have run and screamed as loud as she could....but then again she may have known the person .....like in the Sandra Cantu case 

DD, I think this is MySpace -- something about nightmares?  Would you check this?
Thank you.

cookie ... I wish you had read the article incorrectly.

Janet

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Where is Lindsey Baum? Police, FBI Search for 10-Year-Old
Girl's Mother Frantic After Lindsey Never Made it Home From a Friend's House
By SARAH NETTER
June 30, 2009

Baum said her children began squabbling over the use of Josh's bike on the way there and were stopped by a family friend who sent Josh home to end the argument. Lindsey continued on to her friend's house. When Lindsey's friend found out she couldn't stay the night, Lindsey headed for home around 9:30 p.m.

"When she wasn't home by 10, I started to get nervous," Baum said, adding that 10 p.m. is the curfew for her children.  

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7966924&page=1

wonder why Lindsey had not just called her friend to spend the night rather than walking there to see? 
also, I feel sorry for her brother if he is blaming himself cause they got into a fight and he went on home...I know that my brother and I used to fight all the time, didn't mean that there weren't times that we got along just fine...and that we didn't love each other..kids fight and squabble at that age..
this kind of guilt is a lot for a young boy to have on his shoulders...jmo....

this is lindsey's friend Kylar's myspace
Kate made this page for her, Kate seems to be her friend
notice the huge difference in this page
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=431921978

I agree -- her brother is probably blaming himself for the fight over a bike.  I haven't see anything yet that indicates he was actually going to juvie.  My brother and I used to fight (he would scare me, which I still hate), and I remember screaming at him "I wish you were dead as a snake."  Of course, I didn't mean it and am grateful after all these years, he and the snake haven't met.

I got that backwards, kylar made kate's page


somewhere I read this is kylar's page, but now I am not so sure, will try to veryify

that is on the twighlight freak myspace
http://www.myspace.com/477760045

this myspace was started on may 29th, within a month she is missing
she says she is scared, having nightmares, the same day the page is started. why did she change myspaces?  



along with
Status and MoodLindsey Baum is happy that her brother is going to juvi tomorrow.
Mood: happ at 2:10 PM Jun 17
Lindsey Baum is bored as hell
Mood: bored at 8:01 PM Jun 8
Lindsey Baum cabt wait to hang with kayla agian
Mood: anxious at 2:13 PM Jun 8
Lindsey Baum i've been getting a lot of nightmares latley and i have this bad feeling that something bads gonna happen
Mood: scared at 6:48 AM May 29
Lindsey Baum has joined MySpace!
Mood: good at 4:04 AM May 29

also on that page
General
i love hanging out with my friends
Music
rap, hip hop, rock, metal, country, ect.
Movies
horror and comedy, sometimes romance
Television
dont got cable
Books
twilight, steven king, S.E Hinton
Heroes
my besties, kayla, kylar, christina, and cheyanne
DetailsStatus: Single
Here for: Dating, Serious Relationships, Friends
Hometown: McCleary?
Orientation: Straight
Body type: 5' 2" / Slim / Slender
Ethnicity: White / Caucasian
Zodiac Sign: Cancer
Children: Someday
Smoke: No
About me:
I live in a small town in Washington. I've got a female German Shephard named Kadence. She was named after a book. hehe. my besties are kayla, kylar, and christina. oh yeah and cheyanne (shy anne). I love to write. that's basically it. Who I'd like to meet:
basically anyone that i can relate to

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this is alice walter's myspace, twighlight freak/lindsey is a friend there
http://www.myspace.com/480197876

do we know if lindsey's brother has a myspace page?

this is kylar's page too?  or is this it?  I am not sure but this says it is kylar KAMPEN's page, so is she Kayla's sister? 
http://www.myspace.com/445914790

these myspaces are very confusing. 
on the one I just posted for kylar, after you click on the blog, you get this

your shorty
 has a photo of your shorty/kylar here
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it seems everyone has the other person's photo on their avatar, then you have several sites with the same names.  it is hard to keep up with who is who on them.

DD I think you are right on, this girl was taken by someone who saw myspace pages. My goodness, 10 years old? More like 10  going on 19. These myspace pages look like they are from girls a lot older then 10. The words, the comments, the pictures, the attitude, my god, did the parents know about this? Did they read the comments using such words as sexy and hell.  I pray this poor little girl is still alive, but I have a bad feeling. Let this be a big wake up call of the worse kind and get the kids off the computer.


 

Slightly O/T - does anyone know where I could find some statistics regarding the abductions from meeting online, or any other such numbers for predators, etc.  I will make it my mission to get this into the hands of parents in my "little" community where kids do roam at night.  Yes, it is considered a "Charlie Brown" kind of place -- one road in and same road out, folks don't lock their doors, etc. etc., but no it's not liberal.

    *  One in five U.S. teenagers who regularly log on to the Internet say they have received an unwanted sexual solicitation via the Web. Solicitations were defined as requests to engage in sexual activities or sexual talk, or to give personal sexual information.


    * 25% of children have been exposed to unwanted pornographic material online.
     

    * Only 1/3 of households with Internet access are actively protecting their children with filtering or blocking software.
     

    * 75% of children are willing to share personal information online about themselves and their family in exchange for goods and services.
     
    * Only approximately 25% of children who encountered a sexual approach or solicitation told a parent or adult.
     

    * One in 33 youth received an aggressive sexual solicitation in the past year. This means a predator asked a young person to meet somewhere, called a young person on the phone, and/or sent the young person correspondence, money, or gifts through the U.S. Postal Service.
     
    * 77% of the targets for online predators were age 14 or older.  Ano

0% of the children in my household are allowed on the internet.

I think I got this figured out here
Kylar is kayla's brother
Kylar is "your shorty"

everywhere you see "xxxxxxx" I have blocked out his phone number he had posted on here.
these kids post their names and phone numbers on these pages, where they live etc...gee

from kylar's myspace
your shorty's Status and Mood Updates your shortystill likes her alot nd likes some other girlys \5 hours ago
Mood: accomplished 
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http://enough.org/inside.php?id=2UXKJWRY8

Lindsey portrays her age as 13 years old.

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Thank you for these postings doubledecker.

Janet

the problem is people just do not realize what goes on with some many whackos out there.  They have no idea how many predators there are or what they are actually capable of.  Until I got on the crime forums I had no idea either.  I knew there were child molesters etc around, but I never to how many or how whacked they are.  I never realized how many of them are in contact with one another and all over the net sharing so many photos and crazy stuff.  I never realized how sick these people really are, and what horrid things they are capable of.  I know NOW. 

I worked with teens at risk so I know how kids are.  I've worked with parolee's etc, I know how people get all screwed up and how some people's kids just grow up fast and I am not naive to how some 10 yr olds act like older teens or even older.  I have met many.  When you start mixing them together on the net it can turn into a real mess. No one intends on this to happen, mostly they don't realize it can happen.  But it does. 

these whacko sickos are all over the net just searching for kids.  And then you have kids on these pages posting their names, phone numbers, a little racy content, and their towns, and there you go; any preditor can figure out where they live, and who they are and what their habits are.  get these kids in some chatroom or gameroom and these kids are just having fun, but these predators are stalking them. 

This is just my opinion but to me this is a perfect example of a little girl who wants to grow up too soon. The internet is dangerous and no place for kids. Again, just my opinion.

here are the 48 friends of kayla when she is using lindsey's photo on her myspace
http://friends.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewfriends&friendID=445918694

Who I'd like to meet:
basically anyone that i can relate to

that is a scary statement...

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This is a 10 year old child!!

Janet

I'm not sure but this seems to be the myspace of kylar/kayla's older sister?

they talk about someone who's baby dies and they call her 'sis'.  this is her, she is 17 and living in AZ I guess.
http://www.myspace.com/cassies0

kara is 31, she has a daughter 17?
maybe it is not their real sister?

Wow. I missed it, why does she use Lindsy's pic on her myspace? do we know if she was communicating with someone on line? Someone could have thought Lindsey was Kayla especially if she was leaving Kayla's house.

This is bad...

you would think that her cell phone would tell all but didn't LE say that the cell checked out okay?

This is a pedophiles dream! Have you ever watched a car wreck and thought NOOOOOOO this is how I am tonight as I am reading this stuff.

yes it is, we understand how that is taken and wonder why someone that young would post something like that.  definitely sounds like something an older person would say.

these kids are grown up way more than your basic 10 yr old, or even your 13 year old.  so we have to realize that age in numbers mean nothing.  we have to research this case as what would a teenager be doing, saying, who they hang out with etc.  and kids who are friends with adults.  we can't look at this case like we have some very young little girl, even though she is, she is going to be attracting predators who would also target older kids/teens etc.   This is why it is so important to get a feel for the victim and what their interests/personalities, etc are.  otherwise we will be way off on finding who might be targeting them.

that is a really good thought I wonder if LE has put that together yet?....they need to talk to the girls and find out what was going on...

Did they check all of the girls cell phones and computers? It could have been another girl communicating with someone.

I agree...

I think that they said that they just checked Lindsey's but you are right they need to check them all and the parents need to reinforce this...there could be more of them in danger....

well LE will say everything seems okay even if it isn't, they do it all the time.  just like saying the dog picked up no scent, we know that is crazy, dogs pick up scent when they know exactly where she was.  they trailed her I am sure, they just are saying they didn't.  I am sure they know a lot more than they are saying.  I read where they have something like 14 fbi agents searching the net.  see everything is not all checking out yet. 

the thing is, they can easily miss something.  it is so hard to start tracking everything.  and whose phone are people calling on?  who's sites are they chatting on, whose computer are they usinng to access chatrooms. 
unless they start checking everyone's computers and phones, we don't know what they were doinng where.

did you see the comment that said june 28 2:40 pm.....it says that Lindsey is on line... i'm scared wonder who is on her page?.....

why would that scare the girl?.....wouldn't she think that it was the police or lindsey?

when I am going to all these myspace pages I am really locking up my computer ugh.  would not supprise me at all if they are tracking everyone going on those sites.

I agree DD, these girls act much older then 10 or even 13. If they are on line and acting as though they are older, I would assume in real life they are the same way and it could have been someone who is in that area. What is the profile of a man who targets teens? How old? What would they drive or dress like?
This is what I would think. A man in his late 20's to early 40's, who drives a car which may be a little younger then what a person of that range may drive, maybe like a scion or something like that. He would dress a bit younger, trying to be hip(do kids use that word? lol)  As a profession I would think maybe a high school or middle school teacher, counselor, manager at a place kids frequent example a video/dvd store or maybe cell phone retail? I think it would be a person in authority, this would appeal to a young girl.
Did someone see her walk away? How far was she, do we know? I can imagine a man in a car coming up to her who she knew and asking if she wanted a ride...

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 Jun 28 2009 2:40 PM

Lindsey's myspace said she was online im scared who was on hers

you have to scroll down for awhile...

this is wesley kampen on the mom kara's page. 
because lindsey's pic is on kara's page I am going to follow the pages from her site
http://www.myspace.com/fit4you

keep searching I think this could be myspace related...I have to get off of here now....night monkeys

Who's myspace page? the mom or the girls?

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendId=35338297

DD I am confused. Can you or someone please post a myspace link map with who's is who's?

lindsey's friend is kayla, she was at her house
kara is kayla's mother
lindsey and kayla(using lindsey's avatar/photo with lindsey's name on it) are both friends on Kara's page

so all the friends on kara's page has linked access to kayla and lindseys page.
so I am going to see who all is linked to kara's page who could see lindsey on there

I can make a list, but right now I am just trying to copy this stuff because it will all poof, it always does. 

for the most part this is what is going on.

lindsey has at least two myspaces.  she is "disturbed" and "twighlight freak"
kayla is the girl's whose house lindsey was at.  kayla's mother is kara
both lindsey and kayla are listed as "freinds" on Kara's page, so Kara knows full well the girls were on myspace. they were posting on kara's page.

when you go to lindsey and kayla's pages you find their friends, who are many other young girls out of mccleary. 

kylar is the brother of kayla, he has a myspace page I listed back there too. 
then there is the 17 year old girl whose baby died and kylar calls her sis, she is also on kara's page so she might be an older sister of kylar and kayla.


what I am doing now is going on kara's page and see who all the friends are on her page, because all of these friends will see the pics of lindsey on kara's page and click and end up right on lindsey's page.  some of these people are on the friends list of lindsey and also on kayla's page (where kayla is using the photo of lindsey)  so lindsey's photo is linking to all these friends. 

Interesting..

this is michelle flodstrom, she is on kara's page, kayla's page etc,  she seems to be a good friend or maybe relative.  there is another person with the flodstrom name who is on their pages also.  so I wil go through her page also.
here is her space
http://www.myspace.com/wickeddiva13

here is mike floodstrom page he is 17
he is linked to lindsey / kayla /kara pages
he is in aberdeen city alabama
http://www.myspace.com/mizichael13

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www.blogger.com                               Thursday, March 26, 2009 
 The living dream.
Category: Life
Within the ironies of staggered roads that we may cross.
Lie the iniquities of both the sacred and the profain.

In the mind of twisted fate, are the dormant
tranquilities through friendships made new
and abroad the dark horizons of the living dream.

Shadows of fresh, black roses, cascade upon the walls of our souls, as we acknowledge that we should have met long ago, within the dream. And not the reality of this life.

Tattered wings, torn from the memories of remembering to ask you...will you purge?

Purge the mask you wear from the many faces you have worn, within the battles of the invisible war.

For this shall be the armor provided to shield you against the worst, yet to come.

Within the ironies of the many staggered roads that we may cross.

- Dave Storm

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Wednesday, January 21, 2009 
 The Weak
Current mood:  awake
Im so tired of the weak. The ones who look at determination as if it has never been a part of their language. The ones who have never known PRIDE.  The ones who swim in their own insecurities. Who wont allow themselves to show their true selves. The ones who have to surround themselves with meaningless relationships to feel important.  Who have to be loved by all eventhough it is all through fake eyes.  For those I have no sympathy. I have no help for you.  Have some STRENGTH. Have some CONFIDENCE. Have some F$%#@ PRIDE!!!
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Saturday, November 22, 2008 
 Life
Life is so short. Do what makes you happy. Stay close with people that you love.  Let go of regrets. Love like you want to be loved! Take chances. Make a fool of yourself once in a while.
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Monday, October 20, 2008 
 FEED MY HUNGER!
Current mood:  savage
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Sometimes my want to know drives me insane. I want to know what makes people think. What makes them tick. Why they do the things they do. I want to know the deep dark secrets no one wants to tell. I want to stand in the middle of their thoughts and soak it all in. What will you be willing to do for security? Why do you shoot drugs? Why does it excite to kill, rape? What makes the dark corners of your soul you? What would you really do if there was no regret, no punishment? I want to know the raging beast inside that everyone has. We all want to think that we are good people. Even the evil can twist their person to live with themselves. There is not one person on this earth that does not have one of the seven sins living beneath the skin. Which one of you has the cage in the closet? Who is the one who wears the suit and the horns? Which one of you holds the bible to cover all of your wicked thoughts?