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Missing, Exploited and True Crime => Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09 => Topic started by: doubledecker on July 06, 2009, 08:33:14 PM



Title: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 06, 2009, 08:33:14 PM
Wayne Watne is the missionary at the church where Lindsey went. He also would take her brother Josh fishing etc. He spoke at the vigil.

Birth date from Jessstar
WATNE, WAYNE S
WATNE, WAYNE
(DOB: 10/1964)
(Age: 44)

Mccleary Address From Jessstar:
PO BOX 406
MCCLEARY, WA 98557-0406
GRAYS HARBOR COUNTY
(06/2008-11/2008)

400 S 3RD ST
MCCLEARY, WA 98557-9658
GRAYS HARBOR COUNTY
(05/2008-05/2008)

From Jessstar:
Other addresses of Wayne Watne

PO BOX 205
MONTESANO, WA 98563-0205
GRAYS HARBOR COUNTY
(11/2008-Current)

2303 MONTGOMERY PL
MOUNT VERNON, WA 98274-4735
SKAGIT COUNTY
(02/2005-02/2009)

PO BOX 406
MCCLEARY, WA 98557-0406
GRAYS HARBOR COUNTY
(06/2008-11/2008)

400 S 3RD ST
MCCLEARY, WA 98557-9658
GRAYS HARBOR COUNTY
(05/2008-05/2008)

PO BOX 1794
MOSES LAKE, WA 98837-0224
GRANT COUNTY
(02/2006-06/2006)

1794 PO BOX 1794
MOSES LAKE, WA 98837
GRANT COUNTY
(02/2006-02/2006)

15146 SUNSET LN
MOUNT VERNON, WA 98273-8837
SKAGIT COUNTY
(05/2004-01/2006)

414 OXENFORD RD
PORT ANGELES, WA 98363-8863
CLALLAM COUNTY
(02/1999-02/1999)

6421 S FIFE ST
TACOMA, WA 98409-6023
PIERCE COUNTY
(12/1997-12/1997)

181 BISHOP RD
PORT ANGELES, WA 98363-8756
CLALLAM COUNTY
(02/1993-07/1996)

4869 VIKING RD NE
MOSES LAKE, WA 98837-3743
GRANT COUNTY
(02/1993-02/1993)

4252 BISHOP RD
PORT ANGELES, WA 98362
CLALLAM COUNTY
(12/1988-12/1992)

525 E 10TH ST
PORT ANGELES, WA 98362-7927
CLALLAM COUNTY
(12/1988-12/1988)

1332 OBRIEN RD # 5
PORT ANGELES, WA 98362-7416
CLALLAM COUNTY
(12/1985-04/1986)


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 06, 2009, 08:36:32 PM
Others listed at this address

400 3RD MCCLEARY, WA
 MCCLEARY, WA
ABERDEEN, WA
ELMA, WA
PHOENIX, AZ
STAPLETON, AL
WALNUT, CA
GARDEN GROVE, CA
ONTARIO, CA

Possible Relatives:

VOILES, FREDDIE LEVI (Age 80)
VOILES, GARY L (Age 48)
VANCE, ROBERT L (Age 61)
VOILES, JERIANN (Age 54)
YOST, JERIANN (Age 44)
KLIMA, JERIANN
KLIMA, VAN R (Age 31)
VOILES, EVAN (Age 55)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

LEATHER, DAVID J (Age 55)



 MCCLEARY, WA
MANSON, WA
OLYMPIA, WA

 Possible Relatives:

ELLINGTON, COLLIER NINA (Age 74)
COLLIER, NINAELLINGT F (Age 74)
COLLIER, ESTUARDO (Age 89)
COLLIER, PERRIN D (Age 47)
ELLINGTONCOLLIER, NINA F
COLLIER, ESTUARDO B (Age 29)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

ELLINGTON, NINA A



 CAREFREE, AZ
PHOENIX, AZ
VALDEZ, AK
MCCLEARY, WA
TENINO, WA
ADNA, WA

 Possible Relatives:

HAWKINS, LINDA L (Age 37)
KARRAS, L L (Age 39)




 TENINO, WA
MCCLEARY, WA
PHOENIX, AZ
CAREFREE, AZ
VALDEZ, AK

 Possible Relatives:

HAWKINS, JOHN T (Age 43)
KARRAS, DENNIS S (Age 43)
HAWKINS, MAUREEN S (Age 70)
HAWKINS, BRUCE A (Age 72)
HAWKINS, PETER M (Age 43)



 OLYMPIA, WA
MCCLEARY, WA
ABERDEEN, WA

Possible Relatives:

BOLING, KATHRYN R (Age 71)
BOLING, ROBERT



 ABERDEEN, WA
MCCLEARY, WA
ELMA, WA
PHOENIX, AZ

Possible Relatives:

VOILES, JERIANN A (Age 53)
VOILES, EVAN (Age 55)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

KLIMA, EVAN ROBERT (Age 32)



MCCLEARY, WA

Possible Relatives:

KARRAS, DENNIS S (Age 43)
HAWKINS, LINDA L (Age 37)



 MCCLEARY, WA
MANSON, WA

 Possible Relatives:

ELLINGTON, COLLIER NINA (Age 74)

Possible Roommates / Associates:

COLLIER, JON D (Age 80)



 MCCLEARY, WA

 Possible Relatives:

VOILES, JERIANN A (Age 53)



 MCCLEARY, WA

Possible Relatives:

VOILES, JERIANN A (Age 53)
VOILES, JERIANN (Age 54) 


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 06, 2009, 08:38:08 PM
others at the same po box as wayne watne

406 PO BOX MCCLEARY, WA

DURHAM, NC
RALEIGH, NC
MCCLEARY, WA

Possible Relatives:

PIERSON, GERALDINE R (Age 85)
PIERSON, JOYCE MITCHELL (Age 77)
PIERSON, MARTIN T (Age 87)
PIERSON, ROD
PIERSON, GERRY (Age 85)
 


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 06, 2009, 08:43:15 PM
the address of 400 3rd street mccleary wa,
address of Wayne Watne
not that far from where Lindsey would have cut over from maple to 3rd then back to mommsen

(http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww90/doubledeck/lindsey%20baum%20case/baumwatnemap1.jpg)


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 06, 2009, 08:45:31 PM
also on the map, if she went south on 6th, cut over on fir, and walked through that area between 5th and 6th where fir does not go through, she would com out at pine, and be very easy to cut straight over to the 400 3rd where wayne watne lives.  was she headed there for some reason?



Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 06, 2009, 09:15:31 PM
i have found some court stuff on wayne watne

1 Watne, Wayne
Defendant  Clallam County Dist  99-000003  01-05-1999
2 Watne, Wayne
Defendant  Clallam County Dist  Y00-01034  12-13-2000
3 Watne, Wayne S
Petitioner  Grant Superior Court  97-3-00138-2  04-10-1997
4 Watne, Wayne Scott
Defendant  Mount Vernon Muni Ct  MI0025537  09-19-2006
5 Watne, Wayne Scott
Defendant  Sno Co-everett Div  I00020510  12-03-2007
6 Watne, Wayne Scott
Defendant  North District Court  I05795773  07-18-2008
7 Watne, Wayne Scott
Respondent  Skagit Superior  09-3-00034-1  01-16


it wont let me type everything out but the most recent one said this:

 01-16-2009 $FFR  Filing Fee Received 250.00 
1  01-16-2009 CIF  Confidential Information Form 
2  01-16-2009 PTDSS  Petition For Dissolution 
-  01-16-2009 JN
RSP0001 Joinder
Watne, Wayne Scott 
3  01-16-2009 TMRO
JDG0003 Temp Restraining Order - Atuo
Judge Susan K. Cook 
4  04-08-2009 NTMTDK
ACTION  Note For Motion Docket
S Watne - Final 05-04-2009FD 
5  05-04-2009 MTHRG
COM0001 Motion Hearing
Commissioner G. Brian Paxton 
 05-04-2009 CDSOP  Cd Record Of Proceedings 4/10:00 
6  05-04-2009 FNFCL
COM0001 Findings Of Fact&conclusions Of Law
Commissioner G. Brian Paxton 
7  05-04-2009 DCD
COM0001 Decree Of Dissolution
Commissioner G. Brian Paxton


heres the link;

http://dw.courts.wa.gov/index.cfm?fa=home.casesummary&crt_itl_nu=S29&casenumber=09-3-00034-1&searchtype=sName&token=51E9FCC04CC3CECF7BEB886B24D7CF2D&dt=6AC1FFCEC2FBDFC29994A6CE83448718


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 06, 2009, 09:16:06 PM
post by wayne watne

Wayne Watne

This is awesome timing for such an emphasis on Astronomy! If you really want to seee something amazing about the stars and really get an understanding of how incredibly large some of the stars are, how big the universe is, and the magnitude of the distances between some of the galaxies and earth check out the CD "Indescribable" by Louie Giglio... it will blow your socks off! They are available online... another is "How Great is Our God" also by Louie Giglio. Believer in God or not, the two CD's do the most amazing job I've ever seen to put the size of the cosmos into a perspective that most can grasp the imensity of the stars!

Wayne Watne, McCleary, WA (Sent Monday, January 05, 2009 10:40 PM)

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/ ... 30900.aspx


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 06, 2009, 09:16:55 PM
Name: Wayne S Watne
Birth Date: Oct 1964
Phone Number: xxxxxx
Address: 181 Bishop Rd, Port Angeles, Washington 98362-0201 (1993)
[4252 Bishop Rd, Port Angeles, Washington 98362-1201 (1988)]


in 1997 he was with wife sandy, in port angeles
Name: Wayne Watne
Spouse: Sandy
Address: 181 Bishop Rd
City: Port Angeles
State: Washington
Zip Code: 98363-8756
Phone Number: xxxxxxx
Residence Years: 1997


I believe this is him also as listed with him is both a sandy and a stacie
but I am not 100% sure this is him, but if it is, he was with wife stacie in 2001 ad 2002 in corvallis oregon

I'll do more looking and will be able to tell if this is him or not

Name: Wayne Watne
Spouse: Stacie
Address: 33017 SE Peoria Rd
City: Corvallis
State: Oregon
Zip Code: 97333-2529
Phone Number: xxxxxx
Residence Years: 2001 2002


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 06, 2009, 09:36:25 PM
this is relative of wayne watne
comes up with him in corvallis oregon

watnt workshop is listed under temporary shelter

WATNE WORKSHOP  
 Corvallis, OR
 WATNE, MECHELLE
(CONTACT)
MECHELLE L WATNE


 WATNE WORKSHOP  
 Corvallis, OR 
 WATNE, MECHELLE
(AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE)
WATNE, MECHELLE
(REGISTRANT)
AMG

AMG

Corvallis, OR   
STENZEL, CORY W
(REGISTRANT)
STENZEL, CORY W
(AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE)

WATNE WORKSHOP


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 06, 2009, 09:50:15 PM
WATNE, WAYNE S (Age 46)

Associated names:

 WATNE,  W
 MOUNT VERNON, WA
KEYPORT, WA
CORVALLIS, OR
PORT ANGELES, WA
CORBETT, OR
MOSES LAKE, WA
PORTLAND, OR
LEBANON, OR

Possible Relatives:

WATNE, MECHELLE LEWIS (Age 41)
WATNE, BRIAN KENNETH (Age 42)
WEIDEMAN, SANDRA L (Age 40)
INGERSOLL, STACIE ANN (Age 35)



.  WEIDEMAN, SANDRA L (Age 40)

Associated names:

 WATNE, SANDY L
 WATNE, SANDRA LEA
 WEIDEMAN,  SANDY
 PORT ANGELES, WA
MOSES LAKE, WA

Possible Relatives:

WATNE, WAYNE S (Age 46)
WIEDEMAN, CARL E (Age 56)
WEIDEMAN, BELYNDA JOY (Age 53)
WEIDEMAN, CHRIS PAUL (Age 41)
WEIDEMAN, CHRISTOPHER P (Age 33)
WEIDEMAN, CHRIS P
WEIDEMAN, SANDY L
WEIDEMAN, CHRISTOPHER P
 


WATNE, BRIAN KENNETH (Age 42)
 KEYPORT, WA
CORVALLIS, OR
TANGENT, OR
LEBANON, OR
SEQUIM, WA
SAN JOSE, CA
PORT ANGELES, WA

Possible Relatives:

WATNE, MECHELLE LEWIS (Age 41)
WATNE, WAYNE S (Age 46)
INGERSOLL, STACIE ANN (Age 35)
 


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: JessStar on July 06, 2009, 10:02:24 PM
You are right DD, among other Oregon addresses:

WATNE, WAYNE S
WATNE, WAYNE(DOB: 10/1964)
(Age: 44)   

PO BOX 205
MONTESANO, WA 98563-0205
GRAYS HARBOR COUNTY
(11/2008-Current)   

2303 MONTGOMERY PL
MOUNT VERNON, WA 98274-4735
SKAGIT COUNTY
(02/2005-02/2009)

PO BOX 406
MCCLEARY, WA 98557-0406
GRAYS HARBOR COUNTY
(06/2008-11/2008)   

33017 SE PEORIA RD
CORVALLIS, OR 97333-2529
BENTON COUNTY
>
(08/1998-01/2004)

55 E CAROLINA ST
LEBANON, OR 97355-3302
LINN COUNTY
(07/1999-07/1999)

7011 N RENO AVE
PORTLAND, OR 97203-1423
MULTNOMAH COUNTY


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 06, 2009, 10:22:41 PM
we have a big gap in time
between these two

15146 SUNSET LN
MOUNT VERNON, WA 98273-8837
SKAGIT COUNTY
(05/2004-01/2006)

414 OXENFORD RD
PORT ANGELES, WA 98363-8863
CLALLAM COUNTY
(02/1999-02/1999)

we really need to find out where he was in between.  where was he in june/july 2001? 

making notes to myself here/ things I need to find out.

does he have relatives in mt vernon where he lived in 2004-2006
had he ever lived there previous to this.
was he visiting there, at relatives. 


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 06, 2009, 10:24:39 PM
need to find a date he was at this one
7011 N RENO AVE
PORTLAND, OR 97203-1423
MULTNOMAH COUNTY



and we need to find out if he was around tacoma in 2001 also
he has an address there in 1997
notes to myself

does he have relatives in tacoma where he would have visited in 2001
did he go back and live there during that time.  or anywhere close to there. 

here is when and where he lived there
6421 S FIFE ST
TACOMA, WA 98409-6023
PIERCE COUNTY
(12/1997-12/1997)


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: JessStar on July 06, 2009, 10:29:52 PM
need to find a date he was at this one
7011 N RENO AVE
PORTLAND, OR 97203-1423
MULTNOMAH COUNTY



7011 N RENO AVE
PORTLAND, OR 97203-1423
MULTNOMAH COUNTY
(01/1989-01/1989)


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: JessStar on July 06, 2009, 10:31:40 PM
we have a big gap in time
between these two

15146 SUNSET LN
MOUNT VERNON, WA 98273-8837
SKAGIT COUNTY
(05/2004-01/2006)

414 OXENFORD RD
PORT ANGELES, WA 98363-8863
CLALLAM COUNTY
(02/1999-02/1999)

we really need to find out where he was in between.  where was he in june/july 2001? 


This covers that time period:

33017 SE PEORIA RD
CORVALLIS, OR 97333-2529
BENTON COUNTY
(08/1998-01/2004)


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: JessStar on July 06, 2009, 10:49:36 PM
The relative that shows up most often in Tacoma:

WATNE, ROSE MARIE
WATNE, ROSE M    
6421 S FIFE ST
TACOMA, WA 98409-6023
PIERCE COUNTY
DOB 2/43
(06/1995-Current)

Must be mom.  By the way, there are 58 "Watne" names associated with Tacoma.


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 07, 2009, 12:04:24 AM
LINDSEY BAUM - THE WAYNE WATNE CONNECTION

She’s no runaway, family says
By Steven Friederich - The Daily World
Wednesday, July 1, 2009 12:13 PM PDT


Lindsey was in Girl Scouts. She went to church at the Evergreen Christian Center in McCleary, an offshoot of a larger church in west Olympia. She sometimes worked the front counter at Baum’s store in Elma, a “dollar store.”

http://**/articles/2009/07/01/local_news/doc4a4ba94721f78989072462.txt


Hundreds gather for Baum vigil
By Callie White - The Daily World
Wednesday, July 1, 2009 12:13 PM PDT


Wayne Watne of Evergreen Christian Community in Olympia and two other local ministers said prayers for Lindsey’s return. Watne took speakers from the assembled crowd. Friends of the family stepped up, taking turns expressing their hope and their pain.

http://**/articles/2009/07/01/local_news/doc4a4baa38c6082474655699.txt


KaraK
Re: Lindsey Baum, 10y missing from McCleary, WA 6/26/09
« Reply #1245 on: July 05, 2009, 11:23:14 PM »


Josh does not have any regular friends that I am aware of but I will ask around but I know Wayne Watne tries to help out there by taking him fishing  and there may be other adults and such that have stepped in to provide friendship as well. Most of the time that I see Josh he is hanging out with Lindsey and my 10 and 11 yr old. I really wanted to add just so you know that Josh has been to my home several times with Lindsey or coming over to see if the kids were here playing and I've personally never had an issue with him and he was always very polite and respectful.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg865772#msg865772



Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: Kat_Gram on July 07, 2009, 12:24:47 AM
What I am thinking is that anything that is found from now on or what is found for Kara should be just shared with Kara via Klaasend. Or something like that OR between Kara and  DD.
Two reasons : Slandering the guy, AND we want anything to go to LE.


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 07, 2009, 05:54:21 PM
LINDSEY BAUM - THE WAYNE WATNE CONNECTION

She’s no runaway, family says
By Steven Friederich - The Daily World
Wednesday, July 1, 2009 12:13 PM PDT


Lindsey was in Girl Scouts. She went to church at the Evergreen Christian Center in McCleary, an offshoot of a larger church in west Olympia. She sometimes worked the front counter at Baum’s store in Elma, a “dollar store.”

http://**/articles/2009/07/01/local_news/doc4a4ba94721f78989072462.txt


Hundreds gather for Baum vigil
By Callie White - The Daily World
Wednesday, July 1, 2009 12:13 PM PDT


Wayne Watne of Evergreen Christian Community in Olympia and two other local ministers said prayers for Lindsey’s return. Watne took speakers from the assembled crowd. Friends of the family stepped up, taking turns expressing their hope and their pain.

http://**/articles/2009/07/01/local_news/doc4a4baa38c6082474655699.txt


KaraK
Re: Lindsey Baum, 10y missing from McCleary, WA 6/26/09
« Reply #1245 on: July 05, 2009, 11:23:14 PM »


Josh does not have any regular friends that I am aware of but I will ask around but I know Wayne Watne tries to help out there by taking him fishing  and there may be other adults and such that have stepped in to provide friendship as well. Most of the time that I see Josh he is hanging out with Lindsey and my 10 and 11 yr old. I really wanted to add just so you know that Josh has been to my home several times with Lindsey or coming over to see if the kids were here playing and I've personally never had an issue with him and he was always very polite and respectful.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5541.msg865772#msg865772



Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5614.0



Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: pink angel on July 07, 2009, 06:57:00 PM
Callie White - the reporter at the Daily World confirmed to me that he was a missionary not a minster. He had called her to let her know that after he read the paper. She planned on printing a retraction. My guess is that is was in the paper, not online because I never saw it.

I told Callie White, I had called Evergreen Christian Community in Olympia and asked to speak with Wayne and the lady at the church had never heard of him. She thought that was odd, just like myself. She said she was going to dig around some more about WW.  I asked her would she let LE know that Olympia had never heard of him and that this was the church he claimed he was associated with. She said she planned on doing just that, as she is often aware that sometimes perps will often insert themselves into cases. (show up at press conferences, give quotes to newspapers, participate in searches and vigils)

Now it could be that he was a missionary at Evergreen Christian Center in McCleary, an offshoot of a larger church in west Olympia and she just got that detail wrong too. I can see the larger church not knowing the name of a missionary at a smaller offshoot.



Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on July 07, 2009, 07:29:01 PM
I got these links from either WS's or HFTM or probably both places.

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/398845_scoutsfolo05.html

Leslie Lingley, who described herself as "team leader" of the state forest practices' science team, and state Fish and Wildlife biologist Wayne Watne stop to talk Tuesday after inspecting the buffer zone around Delezenne Creek, on land owned by the Pacific Harbors Council of the Boy Scouts of America, near Elma.

There is a pic of Watne here IF this is the same guy.I did not see the memorial where he spoke so please let me know if this is the same guy.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://wdfw.wa.gov/hab/ahb/identify/search.php?searchby=Region&search=Region

GRAYS HARBOR
Region 6
 Forest Practices

 Wayne Watne
 WDFW
48 Devonshire RD
Montesano, WA 98563

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
OMG....I could have sworn there was a LOT more images here early this morning when I looked at them!
There were missionary images,and 2 sets of images from some kind of kids indoor play shop.....I'll have to check for them elswhere later.
Someone who has see Watne pic,could you please let me know if this is him or not?They say it is him on WS and HFTM.
Also....he likes to go by Watnews on some sites.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://www.flickr.com/photos/watnews/

I better get these posted before they disappear too.





Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on July 07, 2009, 07:36:15 PM
OK,I think this is where I saw all the photos with the kids,sorry....wait...nope,they are gone.He had some pics labled flapazzolopo or something where they squished mustard,ketchup,whipped cream and gunk and water on eachother in a play area and now those images are not there.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/harvestvision/

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http://psafidalgo.org/smfforum/index.php?action=profile;u=63;sa=showPosts




Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 08, 2009, 01:02:13 AM
I have not confirmed this so did not post it but I have been told he works for fish and game, if that is true then the person in your above post is most likely him.  IF him why are the images disappearing with the kids. 

I really want to confirm this is him.  I do think it probably is because the person who told me this is from ELMA and wayne watne the missionary has a Montesano address listed.  let me run that address you have through and see if it is him..

 


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 08, 2009, 02:34:52 AM
wayne watne is listed with Brian and Mechelle watne

I find Brian & Mechelle in corvallis oregon donating to Chintimini Wildlife Rehabilitation Center


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 08, 2009, 02:54:36 AM
this is definitely him.  he signs wayne S watne

he owns a boat, one that he leaves sitting around and might get stolen, but he wanted a motor for it.

he had a property in tonasket wa.



1   Saltwater / Fish Stories / Re: CCA Pacific NW update!  on: September 14, 2007, 07:31:14 PM 
Contact me, I'd like to stay informed but have been really busy this time of year and haven't been to any PSA meetings lately... any new meetings for CCA in the near future?

Wayne
xxxxxxxxx  I have the phone #
 
 
2   Saltwater / Fish Stories / Re: Sunday report and some tribal bashing  on: September 14, 2007, 07:28:22 PM 
What ever happened to fisherman edacate? One of these days the edacity will catch up with them... hopefully someone won't get shot first!
 
 
3   General Discussion / Regulations, Rules, WDFW, Enforcement, North of Falcon, etc / Re: Illegal fishing keeps spring salmon numbers low  on: June 28, 2007, 10:28:05 PM 
Thought you might like to see the email I sent to Chrisine Gregoire.

Dear Mrs. Gregoire;

I met with both yourself & Doug Sutherland several times during my tenure at the Lummi Tribe where I was the Timber Fish & Wildlife manager for 3 years.

My concern is that there is little accountability or validation of tribal catch (and now it is hunting as well as fishing).

To keep this brief I will give a short example of the problem as I see it... If you would like to see more details you can have your staff contact me.

1)The tribe are the fishers...
2)Tribal fisher sell to a) tribal seafood plants or b) non-tribal seafood plants. Non-tribal seafood plants are totally dependent upon tribal fish supplies in order to stay in business.
3)Seafood plants are in the business of selling fish... the more they sell the more they make. There is incentive (especially if the only supplier is pushing the envelope and there is no other supplier)to "fudge the numbers". It is real easy to make records show 100# of 5# salmon (20 fish) look like 10- 10# salmon on a fish ticket when it is in the best interest of those involved and there is no-one looking over your shoulder.
4)Tribal catch is then reported to the tribe who in turn reports it to the NW Indian Fish Commission.
5)Finally the numbers (that were not subsitance & ceremonial, over the bank sales, and "barter material")are reported to the state.

There is a lot of room to "adjust" the numbers to see that fishers are entitled to harvest more. It seems odd that the Lummi Tribe ESA coordinator is also the harvest manager... or does it? If the fish are harvested "just enough" to ensure they remain on the ESA, then the Tribe continues to recieve Millions of taxpayer dollars.

I have been involved in all aspects of salmon fishing from sport to commercial to aquaculture and as a fisheries biologist in two states. Millions of taxpayers dollars are going toward salmon recovery plans, shared strategy, SRFBD grants, improving fish passage, and habitat restoration. I was there at the signing of Shared Strategy with Bill Ruckelhouse, Billy Frank & yourself. Not one time was there any mention of ensuring fishery harvests are accurately accounted for by ALL user groups.

I know the Tribes are in the drivers seat on fisheries "co-manangement" and also that the Services are to ensure salmon are protected under the ESA. I find it strange that NOAA Fisheries who has oversight over salmon stocks sits in the same building where US Department of Commerce and NOAA Fisheries provide oversight & training for the HACCP (Hazard Analysis Critical Control Point)Seafood Inspection Program which has "food safety audits" as key component of the program. Why do they not do that for salmnon harvests as well... the fish are listed under ESA and they are to provide for salmon recovery.

With Federal Habitat Conservation Plans, ESA listed salmon (and now steelhead... after how many years of salmon recovery?), Millions being spent on habitat restoration I find it hard to believe that there are no Third Pary reviews of Tribal harvests. There are several well documented cases where ESA listed salmon stocks have been overharvested (Makah winter chinook troll fishery a couple of years ago, the recent harvest of 30 spring chinook for the salmon ceremony and another 25 illegally taken from the Nooksack River where the SF Nooksack has a population of +/- 100 spring chinook salmon returning annually). This alone should serve as evidence for the need to ensure that the State & Services obtain accurate information. The taxpayers of the State & United States deserve accountability if they are to continue to pay millions for salmon restoration.

Habitat is the key to recovery... if the salmon can get there.

Thank you,

Wayne S. Watne
 xxxxxxxxx  I have the phone #
 
 
4   Saltwater / Derbys / Re: Who's fishing the Belluingham derby?  on: June 28, 2007, 09:21:05 PM 
Craig,

I was wondering if you still had the 20 HP Johnson. Looking for something for my runabout I take to the east side.

Wayne Watne
xxxxxxxxx  I have the phone # 
 
 
5   For sale & wanted / Wanted to Buy / Outboard motor  on: June 28, 2007, 09:15:11 PM 
I need a 20-50 horse tiller steering outboard for my runabout. I don't care what it looks like but do care that it runs. I'm not looking for a real nice one since I may end up leaving my boat at my property in Tonasket between fishing trips and don't want risk too much if it were to end up in the back of someones truck.

Wayne Watne
xxxxxxxxx  I have the phone # 
 
 
6   For sale & wanted / Wanted to Buy / Re: Old Fishing Tackle collector  on: June 04, 2007, 07:32:34 AM 
Thanks... sounds like I need to get out there!

WW
 


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on July 08, 2009, 12:32:27 PM
wayne watne is listed with Brian and Mechelle watne

I find Brian & Mechelle in corvallis oregon donating to Chintimini Wildlife Rehabilitation Center
Thank you DD!
Your post above this one is linked in my original posts above.Do you know if the vigil for Lindsey was photographed or video'd?I would like to compare images to those above just to be 100% sure.
But I do think this is the same guy.
That is soooooo dang weird that at least 2 sets of images disappeared from his photo links above.......the links to them were posted on WS or HFTM yesterday(7/7/09)so maybe someone there saved the actual images.I'm not a member at either site so I cannot ask for them.
Thanks again DD!


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 08, 2009, 02:58:48 PM
wayne watne the biologist fish & wildlife guy
(http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww90/doubledeck/lindsey%20baum%20case/baumwatne1.jpg)


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 08, 2009, 03:04:02 PM
this goes with above photo

Among the state officials at Camp Delezenne  on Tuesday was state Fish and Wildlife biologist Wayne Watne, who also worked on the Scouting council's logging project.

Asked specifically if Delezenne Creek constitutes a "channel migration zone," as Mendoza concluded, Watne was hesitant to say. Watne agreed that just downstream of the camp, Delezenne Creek is a "classic CMZ."

But he added he wasn't familiar enough with the waterway's characteristics through the camp to say if that stretch also constituted a CMZ.

"What did they tell you about it?" Watne asked, referring to the state forestry officials investigating the site. "I don't know what their findings are going to be, so I'll wait to answer that."
____________________

state Fish and Wildlife biologist Wayne Watne  stop to talk Tuesday after inspecting the buffer zone around Delezenne Creek, on land owned by the Pacific Harbors Council of the Boy Scouts of America, near Elma.

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:fvId68ttNBQJ:www.seattlepi.com/local/398845_scoutsfolo05.html+wayne+mccleary+wa&cd=80&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 08, 2009, 03:41:45 PM
Thank you DD.

Karma

My researching skills are so limited but ... I did emailed KING News and KIRO New inquiring but ... I have heard nothing back.  Maybe these two media outlets were not at the vigil.  I just had a thought.  It may be prove worthwhile contacting the Daily World.

Janet

+++++

The Daily World – July 1, 2009-07-06

 Wayne Watne of Evergreen Christian Community in Olympia and two other local ministers said prayers for Lindsey’s return. Watne took speakers from the assembled crowd. Friends of the family stepped up, taking turns expressing their hope and their pain.

http://**/articles/2009/07/01/local_news/doc4a4baa38c6082474655699.txt


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 08, 2009, 03:58:24 PM
wayne watne I believe is wayne scott watne. 
he is listed in corvallis oregon with brian Keith watne and brian's wife Mechelle

posted by Keith Watne
Mar 20, 2005
About My Personal Life
My wife Mech, son Max(5)and I have Lived in Corvallis Oregon for the past 12 years. Prior to that we were in San Jose, CA. ...

brian is listed as 42, wayne as 46
my guess is they are brothers.

other places listed at
poulsbo wa
KEYPORT, WA
CORVALLIS, OR
TANGENT, OR
LEBANON, OR
SEQUIM, WA
SAN JOSE, CA
PORT ANGELES, WA

brian attended Port Angeles Senior High School

I am trying to figure out where all wayne watne has been, who he might have visited, where are his relatives, etc.

more listings have these towns
KEYPORT, WA
CORVALLIS, OR
TANGENT, OR
LEBANON, OR
CLAREMONT, CA
SAN JOSE, CA

KEYPORT, WA
CORVALLIS, OR
TANGENT, OR
LEBANON, OR
SEQUIM, WA
SAN JOSE, CA
PORT ANGELES, WA

sometimes brian keith watne is listed as brian kenneth watne, both with mechelle watne


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: KimC on July 11, 2009, 10:21:22 PM
Greetings All,
This is my first post here although I have been an ******* for more than a year now.  I have followed this case from the beginning.  I will do my very best to be a good steward of this forum.  You people are awesome. 

I found that Stacie has a MySpace page and I believe she and WW have two daughters.  They are listed as friends on SW's MySpace page.
http://www.myspace.com/409084224 (http://www.myspace.com/409084224)
SW also has a Facebook Page. She is also a Forrester, according to her profile, so it appears as if the entire family is interested in forrestry.

I pulled the property tax record for the Tonasket property today.  I have made an image of it and I feel that it is fairly accurate.  I would include it here but I am not sure if this is allowed or even how to do it.  If someone would like to just do the search, the address for the tax assessor of the county of Okanogan is http://okanoganwa.taxsifter.com (http://okanoganwa.taxsifter.com).  You can just execute the search on your own and search by name.  You will find only one name on the deeds now (there were two previously).  I do have the entire information on these three parcels which appear to be situated side-by-side, but I will refrain from posting here.  If it's okay, just give me the go-ahead, and I will be happy to post.

The other link that may be interesting to look at is the Harvest Vision Ministries photos of the same San Luis, Mexico trip that WW posted in flickr. Here's the Harvest Vision link to the photos of that trip.  http://www.flickr.com/photos/harvestvision/sets/72157604475001424/?page=2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/harvestvision/sets/72157604475001424/?page=2)
I didn't see anything that resembled the description of the missing photos, however.  Quite possibly the sponsoring church may have the missing photos.  Their FB page is:  http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sedro-Woolley-WA/Harvest-Vision-Ministries/75297584708 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sedro-Woolley-WA/Harvest-Vision-Ministries/75297584708)  Their website is http://www.harvestvisionministries.org/page/page/6528584.htm. 

Be well all,
KimC



Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 11, 2009, 10:55:48 PM
thanks KIM C.  I will copy them over here real quickly for you.  I am new to this board too, but I have been told just do not post phone numbers nor SS#'s.  I guess they will tell you if you post something else you shouldn't

looks like about 40 acres on this one
and in 2009, so guess he still has it?

Okanogan County Assessor
P.O. Box 152
149 3rd North
Okanogan, WA 98840
Phone: (509) 422-7190
 

 

 

Property Summary (Appraisal Details)
Parcel Information Ownership Information
Parcel Number: 3630101007 
Map Number: 36-30-10 
Situs: 
Legal: N1/2 N1/2 NE 
 Current Owner: WATNE, STACIE 
 
Address: 2303 MONTGOMERY PL 
City, State: MT VERNON, WA 
Zipcode: 98274- 
 
 


Assessment Data Market Value Taxable Value
Tax District: 455   
Land Use/DOR Code: 81   
Open Space:   
Open Space Date:   
Senior Exemption:   
Deeded Acres: 39.91     
Last Revaluation for Tax Year: {Reval}   
 Land: 60,000   
Imp: 0   
Perm Crop: 0   
Total: 60,000   
   
   
 Land: 60,000   
Imp: 0   
Perm Crop: 0   
Total: 60,000   
   
   
 
 


Sales History 
 
Date Book & Page # Parcels Grantor Grantee Price
05-20-2007 -3119169 1 OSKER, MARTHA HEIRS WATNE, STACIE 44,000
04-10-1992 99-1717 1 AENEAS VALLEY RANCH OSKER, MARTHA 39,000
 


Building Permits

NO ACTIVE PERMITS
 


5 Year Valuation Information 
 
Year Billed Owner Land Impr. PermCrop Value Total Exempt Taxable Taxes
2009  WATNE, STACIE  39,900  0  0  39,900  0  39,900  View Taxes 
2008  WATNE, STACIE  39,900  0  0  39,900  0  39,900  View Taxes 
 
2007  OSKER, MARTHA  200  0  0  200  0  200  View Taxes 
2006  OSKER, MARTHA  200  0  0  200  0  200  View Taxes 
2005  OSKER, MARTHA  200  0  0  200  0  200  View Taxes 
2004  OSKER, MARTHA  200  0  0  200  0  200  View Taxes 
 


Parcel Comments
Number Comment
1  CUA REMOVAL 6-6-07~ 


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 11, 2009, 10:58:12 PM
Okanogan County Assessor
P.O. Box 152
149 3rd North
Okanogan, WA 98840
Phone: (509) 422-7190
 

 

 

Property Summary (Appraisal Details)
Parcel Information Ownership Information
Parcel Number: 3628044004 
Map Number: 36-28-04 
Situs: 
Legal: LOT 4 (NW NW) 
 Current Owner: WATNE, WAYNE  
 
Address: PO BOX 406 
City, State: MC CLEARY, WA 
Zipcode: 98557- 
 
 


Assessment Data Market Value Taxable Value
Tax District: 455   
Land Use/DOR Code: 91   
Open Space:   
Open Space Date:   
Senior Exemption:   
Deeded Acres: 33.05     
Last Revaluation for Tax Year: {Reval}   
 Land: 36,400   
Imp: 0   
Perm Crop: 0   
Total: 36,400   
   
   
 Land: 36,400   
Imp: 0   
Perm Crop: 0   
Total: 36,400   
   
   
 
 


Sales History 
 
Date Book & Page # Parcels Grantor Grantee Price
03-03-2008 -3130188 3 WATNE, STACIE WATNE, WAYNE 
02-06-2007 -3114885 3 QUALITY SUPPLY PROFIT SHARING ETAL WATNE, STACY 108,000
01-17-2003 -3112390 3 OKANOGAN COUNTY SHERIFF QUALITY SUPPLY PROFIT SHARING PLAN ETAL   
 


Building Permits

NO ACTIVE PERMITS
 


5 Year Valuation Information 
 
Year Billed Owner Land Impr. PermCrop Value Total Exempt Taxable Taxes
2009  WATNE, WAYNE  30,400  0  0  30,400  0  30,400  View Taxes 
2008  WATNE, STACIE  30,400  0  0  30,400  0  30,400  View Taxes
 
2007  QUALITY SUPPLY PROFIT SHARING ETAL  30,400  0  0  30,400  0  30,400  View Taxes 
2006  BERRY, DAVID L *  30,400  0  0  30,400  0  30,400  View Taxes 
2005  BERRY, DAVID L *  26,400  0  0  26,400  0  26,400  View Taxes 
2004  BERRY, DAVID L *  26,400  0  0  26,400  0  26,400  View Taxes 
 


Parcel Comments

NO PARCEL COMMENTS FOR THIS RECORD


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 11, 2009, 10:59:38 PM
Okanogan County Assessor
P.O. Box 152
149 3rd North
Okanogan, WA 98840
Phone: (509) 422-7190
 

 

 

Property Summary (Appraisal Details)
Parcel Information Ownership Information
Parcel Number: 3628051001 
Map Number: 36-28-05 
Situs: 
Legal: LOT 1 (NE NE) 
 Current Owner: WATNE, WAYNE  
 
Address: PO BOX 406 
City, State: MC CLEARY, WA 
Zipcode: 98557- 
 
 


Assessment Data Market Value Taxable Value
Tax District: 455   
Land Use/DOR Code: 91   
Open Space:   
Open Space Date:   
Senior Exemption:   
Deeded Acres: 33.5   
Last Revaluation for Tax Year: {Reval}   
 Land: 36,800   
Imp: 0   
Perm Crop: 0   
Total: 36,800   
   
   
 Land: 36,800   
Imp: 0   
Perm Crop: 0   
Total: 36,800   
   
   
 
 


Sales History 
 
Date Book & Page # Parcels Grantor Grantee Price
03-03-2008 -3130188 3 WATNE, STACIE WATNE, WAYNE   
02-06-2007 -3114885 3 QUALITY SUPPLY PROFIT SHARING ETAL WATNE, STACY 108,000
01-17-2003 -3112390 3 OKANOGAN COUNTY SHERIFF  QUALITY SUPPLY PROFIT SHARING PLAN ETAL 
 


Building Permits

NO ACTIVE PERMITS
 


5 Year Valuation Information 
 
Year Billed Owner Land Impr. PermCrop Value Total Exempt Taxable Taxes
2009  WATNE, WAYNE  30,800  0  0  30,800  0  30,800  View Taxes 
2008  WATNE, STACIE  30,800  0  0  30,800  0  30,800  View Taxes
 
2007  QUALITY SUPPLY PROFIT SHARING ETAL  30,800  0  0  30,800  0  30,800  View Taxes 
2006  BERRY, DAVID L *  30,800  0  0  30,800  0  30,800  View Taxes 
2005  BERRY, DAVID L *  26,800  0  0  26,800  0  26,800  View Taxes 
2004  BERRY, DAVID L *  26,800  0  0  26,800  0  26,800  View Taxes 
 


Parcel Comments

NO PARCEL COMMENTS FOR THIS RECORD


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 11, 2009, 11:00:52 PM
Okanogan County Assessor
P.O. Box 152
149 3rd North
Okanogan, WA 98840
Phone: (509) 422-7190
 

 

 

Property Summary (Appraisal Details)
Parcel Information Ownership Information
Parcel Number: 3628051002 
Map Number: 36-28-05 
Situs: 
Legal: SE NE 
 Current Owner: WATNE, WAYNE  
 
Address: PO BOX 406 
City, State: MC CLEARY, WA 
Zipcode: 98557- 
 
 


Assessment Data Market Value Taxable Value
Tax District: 455   
Land Use/DOR Code: 91   
Open Space:   
Open Space Date:   
Senior Exemption:   
Deeded Acres: 40.22    
Last Revaluation for Tax Year: {Reval}   
 Land: 42,200   
Imp: 0   
Perm Crop: 0   
Total: 42,200   
   
   
 Land: 42,200   
Imp: 0   
Perm Crop: 0   
Total: 42,200   
   
   
 
 


Sales History 
 
Date Book & Page # Parcels Grantor Grantee Price
03-03-2008 -3130188 3 WATNE, STACIE WATNE, WAYNE   
02-06-2007 -3114885 3 QUALITY SUPPLY PROFIT SHARING ETAL WATNE, STACY 108,000
01-17-2003 -3112390 3 OKANOGAN COUNTY SHERIFF QUALITY SUPPLY PROFIT SHARING PLAN ETAL 
05-23-1989 99-522 1 A.V.R. BERRY, DAVID L * 17,800
 


Building Permits

NO ACTIVE PERMITS
 


5 Year Valuation Information 

Year Billed Owner Land Impr. PermCrop Value Total Exempt Taxable Taxes
2009  WATNE, WAYNE  36,200  0  0  36,200  0  36,200  View Taxes 
2008  WATNE, STACIE  36,200  0  0  36,200  0  36,200  View Taxes 
 
2007  QUALITY SUPPLY PROFIT SHARING ETAL  36,200  0  0  36,200  0  36,200  View Taxes 
2006  BERRY, DAVID L *  36,200  0  0  36,200  0  36,200  View Taxes 
2005  BERRY, DAVID L *  27,100  0  0  27,100  0  27,100  View Taxes 
2004  BERRY, DAVID L *  27,100  0  0  27,100  0  27,100  View Taxes 
 


Parcel Comments

NO PARCEL COMMENTS FOR THIS RECORD


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 11, 2009, 11:02:18 PM
omg!! and I just left the phone numbers on there GEEEEEEE!!!! ::MonkeyShocked::

admin, please edit out the phone numbers in the above four docs.  geee!!!!!


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 14, 2009, 10:56:54 AM
Okay, here's a link to all or most of WW's residences.  It's long, just copy and paste in your browser.  I cannot seem to past the map here.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Sedro+Woolley,+Washington&daddr=Mt.+Vernon,+Washington+to:Keyport,+Washington+to:Tacoma,+Wash+to:McCleary,+Wash+to:Montesano,+Washington+to:Portland,+Ore+to:Corvallis,+Ore+to:Lebanon,+Ore+to:Tonasket,+Wash&hl=en&geocode=%3B%3B%3B%3B%3BFUJGzQIdfDii-CmTRed79y6SVDE4NIjYWewM6g%3B%3B%3B%3B&mra=pe&mrcr=4,5&sll=46.604167,-121.552734&sspn=8.062017,23.269043&ie=UTF8&ll=46.679594,-116.784668&spn=8.050822,23.269043&z=6 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Sedro+Woolley,+Washington&daddr=Mt.+Vernon,+Washington+to:Keyport,+Washington+to:Tacoma,+Wash+to:McCleary,+Wash+to:Montesano,+Washington+to:Portland,+Ore+to:Corvallis,+Ore+to:Lebanon,+Ore+to:Tonasket,+Wash&hl=en&geocode=%3B%3B%3B%3B%3BFUJGzQIdfDii-CmTRed79y6SVDE4NIjYWewM6g%3B%3B%3B%3B&mra=pe&mrcr=4,5&sll=46.604167,-121.552734&sspn=8.062017,23.269043&ie=UTF8&ll=46.679594,-116.784668&spn=8.050822,23.269043&z=6)

Now, take a look from where all these little girls are missing.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Everett,+Wash&daddr=Port+Angeles,+Wash+to:Bellevue,+Wash+to:Tacoma,+Wash+to:Federal+Way,+Wash+to:Parkland,+Wash+to:Spanaway,+Wash+to:McCleary,+Wash+to:Granger,+Wash+to:Manson,+Wash+to:Tonasket,+Wash+to:Portland,+Ore+to:Gresham,+Ore+to:Sherwood,+Ore+to:Lake+Oswego,+Ore+to:Salem,+Ore+to:Corvallis,+Ore+to:Mt.+Vernon,+Ore+to:Ontario,+Ore+to:City+of+Dalles,+Ore&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=47.997274,-121.80542&sspn=1.96292,5.817261&ie=UTF8&z=6 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Everett,+Wash&daddr=Port+Angeles,+Wash+to:Bellevue,+Wash+to:Tacoma,+Wash+to:Federal+Way,+Wash+to:Parkland,+Wash+to:Spanaway,+Wash+to:McCleary,+Wash+to:Granger,+Wash+to:Manson,+Wash+to:Tonasket,+Wash+to:Portland,+Ore+to:Gresham,+Ore+to:Sherwood,+Ore+to:Lake+Oswego,+Ore+to:Salem,+Ore+to:Corvallis,+Ore+to:Mt.+Vernon,+Ore+to:Ontario,+Ore+to:City+of+Dalles,+Ore&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=47.997274,-121.80542&sspn=1.96292,5.817261&ie=UTF8&z=6)

And here I copy their stats and the dates that WW lived where according to another member's posts.

Wayne Watne – Tacoma, Washington Dec 1997 to Dec 1997
Wayne Watne –Port  Angeles, Washington 1997
Wayne Watne – Port Angeles, Washington Feb 1999 to Feb 1999
Wayne Watne – Mt. Vernon, Washington May 2004 to January 2006
Wayne Watne – Mt. Vernon, Washington Feb 2005 to Feb 2009
Wayne Watne – McCleary, Washington June 2008 to Nov 2008
Wayne Watne – Montesano, Washington Nov 2008 to 2009
Wayne Watne lists his residence in Olympia on his FB page.
Wayne Watne – Possible email = Wayne.Watne@dfw.wa.gov while living in Montesano
Wayne may have relatives in and around Tacoma and Portland.  His brother lives in Corvallis.
One of his daughters R. Watne lives in Port Angeles. This girl showed up on the former wife's MS page. http://www.myspace.com/409084224


 July 4, 2007 – Zinna Linnick – Tacoma Washington
Wayne Watne living in Mt. Vernon, Washington 2007 1 hour 39 minutes drive time to Tacoma.  Same route.


National Center for Missing & Exploited Children  LUSIANA CARMEN ARGUETA
NCMC1119732
-Endangered Runaway   (View Poster)
DOB: Dec 1, 1991    Age: 17
Missing: Nov 13, 2008    Race: Biracial
Location: SPANAWAY, WA, US
Wayne Watne living in either Montesano or McCleary.  Drive time from Montesano to McCleary is 33 minutes and from McCleary to Spanaway is 1 hour 2 minutes.  This is on the same route from North Washington state to just a little south of Tacoma.

National Center for Missing & Exploited Children  LINDSEY J BAUM
NCMC1125977
-Endangered Missing   (View Poster)
DOB: Jul 7, 1998    Age: 11
Missing: Jun 26, 2009    Race: White
Location: MCCLEARY, WA, US
Technically Wayne Watne is living in Montesano but he still has a home/address/connections in McCleary during this time.

National Center for Missing & Exploited Children  ELEXIS ELLENA BOYER
NCMC1125118
-Endangered Runaway   (View Poster)
DOB: Jan 8, 1992    Age: 17
Missing: Jun 9, 2009    Race: White
Location: BELLEVUE, WA, US
Wayne is in McCleary most likely, and the drive time from McCleary to Bellevue is 1 hour 26 minutes.  But this girl may be a little old for him.  She was around 17 when she disappeared and she is considered a runaway.  But, we keep seeing the same route from North Washington toward Tacoma, where supposedly , WW has a mom or family member living. 


National Center for Missing & Exploited Children  DANICA DIANNE CHILDS
NCMC1086909
-Endangered Runaway   (View Poster)
DOB: May 25, 1990    Age: 19
Missing: Dec 21, 2007    Race: Biracial
Location: FEDERAL WAY, WA, US
Wayne Watne is living in Mt. Vernon, Washington and the drive time from Mt. Vernon to Federal Way is 1 hour 28 minutes.  But this girl is also a little older and is listed as a runaway.  Same route from North Washington to just south of Tacoma.

National Center for Missing & Exploited Children  CANDELARIA CONTRERAS
NCMC1073412
-Endangered Runaway   (View Poster)
DOB: Mar 21, 1991    Age: 18
Missing: Jun 15, 2007    Race: Hispanic
Location: MANSON, WA, US
Wayne Watne is living in Mt. Vernon, Washington and the drive time from Mt. Vernon to Manson is 3 hours 50 minutes.  But this girl is also a little older and is listed as a runaway.  However, this is one of the girls on the route to Tonasket.  Here’s the google map link.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=manson,+washington&oe=utf-8&rls=com.google:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&split=0&gl=us&ei=06dUSo73FpSusgOuicWODw&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1



National Center for Missing & Exploited Children  JEWELYN FINNERAN
NCMC1116766
-Endangered Runaway   (View Poster)
DOB: Jul 19, 1991    Age: 17
Missing: Apr 11, 2008    Race: Asian
Location: PARKLAND, WA, US
Wayne Watne is living in Mt. Vernon, Washington and the drive time from Mt. Vernon to Parkland is 1 hours 48 minutes.  Buy this girl is also a little older and is listed as a runaway.  Jeesus!  This is making me sick to my stomach.  Same, exact route, just south of Tacoma and Federal Way. 

National Center for Missing & Exploited Children  BRITTANY CAITLIN GRISSOM
NCMC1123615
-Endangered Runaway   (View Poster)
DOB: Sep 11, 1991    Age: 17
Missing: May 24, 2009    Race: White
Location: TACOMA, WA, US
Technically Wayne Watne is living in Montesano but he still has a home/address/connections in McCleary during this time.  The drive time from McCleary to Tacoma is 1 hour 1 minute.  This girl is a little older too and is categorized as a runaway.  Same route.  What if these kids are NOT
National Center for Missing & Exploited Children  KATYA MARIE LYNE
NCMC831557
-Endangered Runaway   (View Poster)
DOB: Nov 28, 1981    Age: 27
Missing: Mar 21, 1997    Race: White/Hisp
Location: FEDERAL WAY, WA, US –
Wayne Watne in Port Angeles 1997-2hours 22 minutes drive time.  This girl is older, as well and is considered a runaway.  Here we go again.  Same route, very near Tacoma.



National Center for Missing & Exploited Children  BITHIA JANAHI PEREZ
NCMC1062637
-Have you seen these children?   (View Poster)
DOB: Jul 15, 1999    Age: 9
Missing: Dec 8, 2006    Race: Hispanic
Location: TACOMA, WA, US
 Wayne Watne living in Mt. Vernon, Washington  1 hour 39 minutes drive time to Tacoma.  This little girl is quite a bit younger than the others, however.  I copied this exactly from the source from which it came and something is wrong in either the age of this little girl or her birthdate.  Same neighborhood, same route.

National Center for Missing & Exploited Children  MAYRA JARETTE RAMIREZ
NCMC1059515
-Endangered Missing   (View Poster)
DOB: Jun 29, 1995    Age: 14
Missing: Dec 10, 2006    Race: Hispanic
Location: EVERETT, WA, US
 Wayne Watne living in Mt. Vernon, Washington  36 minutes drive time to Everett, just down the road, same route.

National Center for Missing & Exploited Children  ELSIE DANIELA RAMOS
NCMC1057973
-Have you seen these children?   (View Poster)
DOB: Feb 27, 1995    Age: 14
Missing: Nov 10, 2006    Race: Hispanic
Location: GRANGER, WA, US
Wayne Watne living in Mt. Vernon, Washington  3 hours 31 minutes drive time to Granger  Perfect age though.  This is the only child who is south of the route we’ve discovered.  Granger is quite a bit south of the route and out of the way drive up to Tonasket. 
 


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Missing from Oregon State
Wayne Watne in Portland, Oregon Jan 1989 to Jan 1989
Wayne Watne in Corvallis, Oregon Aug 1998 to Jan. 2004
Wayne Watne in Lebanon, Oregon July 1999 to July 1999
Wayne Watne in Corvallis, Oregon 2001-2002

Lydia Braschler-Varo - Missing from Mt. Vernon Oregon in 2001, 13 yrs old at the time.  Wayne Watne is living in Corvallis, Oregon at this time, almost due east of Corvallis.

National Center for Missing & Exploited Children  NARCISA ARACELY BERNARDINO
NCMC1011292
-Endangered Runaway   (View Poster)
DOB: Oct 29, 1988    Age: 20
Missing: Jan 12, 2005    Race: White/Hisp
Location: ONTARIO, OR, US
Wayne is living in Mt. Vernon, Washington.  Amost 8 hour drive to Ontario, Oregon.  This one doesn’t fit the route.  It is southeast of Bend, Oregon and very near to Mt. Vernon, Oregon (above)


National Center for Missing & Exploited Children  KARLA NAYELI CORONADO
NCMC995833
-Endangered Runaway   (View Poster)
DOB: Nov 3, 1989    Age: 19
Missing: Jul 27, 2004    Race: Hispanic
Location: SHERWOOD, OR, US
Wayne is living in Mt. Vernon, Washington.  4 hours 11 minutes  drive to Sherwood, Oregon, just south of Portland where he lived at one time.


National Center for Missing & Exploited Children  MIRIAM CRUZ-TORRES
NCMC1006914
-Endangered Runaway   (View Poster)
DOB: Aug 24, 1991    Age: 17
Missing: Jan 28, 2005    Race: White/Hisp
Location: THE DALLES, OR, US
Wayne is living in Mt. Vernon, Washington.  4 hours 57 minutes  drive to The City of Dalles, Oregon but on the direct route to Tonasket property.  It does not appear as if he owned the property in 2005 but perhaps he visited the area before purchasing?

 
National Center for Missing & Exploited Children  YULIANA ESCUDERO
NCMC959161
-Endangered Runaway   (View Poster)
DOB: Jan 4, 1987    Age: 22
Missing: Nov 3, 2001    Race: White/Hisp
Location: SALEM, OR, US
Wayne is living in Corvallis, Oregon.  52 minutes  drive to Salem, Oregon.

National Center for Missing & Exploited Children  YENI FUENTES-GARCIA
NCMC1051378
-Endangered Runaway   (View Poster)
DOB: Feb 27, 1989    Age: 20
Missing: Apr 20, 2006    Race: Hispanic
Location: SALEM, OR, US
Wayne is living in Mt. Vernon, Washington.  4 hours  37 minutes  drive to Salem, Oregon.  But this is his old stomping ground from 5 years earlier.
 

National Center for Missing & Exploited Children  MARIA VIRGINIA HIDALGO
NCMC1082650
-Endangered Runaway   (View Poster)
DOB: Feb 25, 1993    Age: 16
Missing: May 29, 2007    Race: Biracial
Location: GRESHAM, OR, US
 Wayne is living in Mt. Vernon, Washington.  4 hours  drive to Gresham, Oregon.  But this is his old stomping ground from 5 years earlier too.

National Center for Missing & Exploited Children  SAVANAH PALAMARO ONTIVEROS
NCMC1075996
-Endangered Missing   (View Poster)
DOB: Feb 16, 1994    Age: 15
Missing: Jun 24, 2007    Race: Biracial
Location: LAKE OSWEGO, OR, US
Wayne is living in Mt. Vernon, Washington.  4 hours  drive to Lake Oswego, Oregon.  But this is his old stomping ground from 5 years earlier too. This is making me sick.  All these girls around the same area, north of Salem and south or right around Portland.  Wayne has his property up in Tonasket during this time.
 
National Center for Missing & Exploited Children  SIERRA RACHELLE ONTIVEROS
NCMC1075996
-Endangered Missing   (View Poster)
DOB: Oct 25, 1991    Age: 17
Missing: Jun 24, 2007    Race: Biracial
Location: LAKE OSWEGO, OR, US
 These two girls must be sisters. 


5779A-National Center for Missing & Exploited Children  KACEY ANN PERRY
NCMC745166
-Endangered Missing   (View Poster)
DOB: May 31, 1980    Age: 29
Missing: Sep 14, 1990    Race: White
Location: PORTLAND, OR, US
 In these earlier years Wayne is living in Portland and Corvallis, Oregon.  But we have a space of time with no residence from 1989 to 1997.  Where was he?

 Please help find Brooke Wilberger - missing since May 24, 2004 from Corvallis, Oregon.
Wayne is living in Mt. Vernon, Washington.  5 hours  16 minutes drive to Corvallis, Oregon. 

Something to think about?

Blessings,
KimC




Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 14, 2009, 11:04:16 AM
Name: Stacie Watne
Spouse: Wayne
 
Address: 33017 SE Peoria Rd 
City: Corvallis   
State: Oregon 
Zip Code: 97333-2529
Phone Number: xxxxxx
Residence Years: 2001 2002 


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 14, 2009, 11:05:39 AM
Name: Stacie Watne
Spouse: Wayne
 
City: Lebanon 
State: Oregon 
Zip Code: 97355
Phone Number: xxxxxxx
Residence Years: 2001 


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 14, 2009, 11:10:26 AM
just making a note of this, it might help to connect up something later
Washington Births, 1907-1919
about Esther Irene Watne
Name: Esther Irene Watne
Birth Date: 3 Dec 1919
Location: Pierce 
Sex: Female 
Race: White 
Father's Name: Andrew L Watne 
Mother's Name: Holge Dagne Peterson 
 


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: doubledecker on July 14, 2009, 11:16:03 AM
Roy Coney Dixon   
Roy Coney Dixon, 68, of Malaga, went to his eternal home to be with the Lord on February 27, 2009. He will always be remembered as a loving husband, dad, grandpa and great-grandpa. He was born on March 25, 1940, in Allison, AR, to the late Luther and Edith Dixon. He was raised in Mountain View, AR. When Coney was young, he would work in the cotton fields to help the family out and later, he worked various jobs in the lumber industry in Arkansas. Coney eventually started making seasonal trips to Cashmere, WA, seeking orchard work. On one of his trips to Cashmere, he met Joan Marie Collins. Coney knew he had met the "Love of his Life" and he married Joan on August 28, 1964, in Wenatchee, WA. Coney and Joan continued making seasonal moves between Cashmere and different areas of Arkansas, which included Jacksonville, Fayetteville, Springdale and Alpena. In the early 1970's, they decided to make the Wenatchee Valley their permanent home. Coney worked in the area orchards in all capacities. He obtained a back injury that forced him to retire from orchard work. After retiring from orchard work, Coney decided to take a passion of his and make it a career, when he started breeding and raising German Shepherds. Coney's German Shepherds brought him a lot of joy and happiness over the years. Coney was an avid hunter and enjoyed taking his family on camping and fishing trips. You could always find him whittling on a piece of wood, his work was remarkable and will always be cherished.
He is survived by his wife of 44 years, Joan Dixon of Malaga; five children: two sons, Dennis and wife, Rebecca Dixon of Mountain View, AR and Jeff and wife, Jennifer Dixon of Peshastin, WA; three daughters, Melissa and husband, Tony Gonzalez of Moses Lake, WA, Stacy and husband, Robert Watne of Vancouver, WA and Colleen Dixon of Malaga, WA; 11 grandchildren; two great-grandchildren; one brother, W.S. and wife, Betty Dixon of Harrison, AR; three sisters, Neoma and husband, Ed Stevens of Nevada, MO, Juanita and husband, William Trail of Artemas, PA and Barbara Reynolds of Fox, AR. He was preceded in death by his parents; one brother, Orville Slayton; and infant son, Mark Dixon.
Commemoration Service will be held at the Graveside in the Cashmere Cemetery on Tuesday, March 3, 2009, at 11:00 a.m. A reception will follow the service at the Cashmere American Legion Hall. Arrangements are in the care of Heritage Memorial Chapel in East Wenatchee.


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: Northern Rose on July 14, 2009, 04:32:28 PM
Wayne Watne, a member of the Evergreen Christian Community Church and representative of Harvest Vision Ministries

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m7d1-Emotional-vigil-held-for-missing-Washington-girl-Lindsey-Baum


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: Tamikosmom on July 16, 2009, 03:50:12 PM
Considering Wayne Watne's connection to both Josh and Lindsey as well as the location of his residence in relationship to the Baum residence ... I believe that he should fall in the category of "person of interest".

Janet

++++++++

FBI: Stranger not likely behind girl's disappearance
Story Published: Jul 1, 2009 at 7:35 PM PDT
Story Updated: Jul 2, 2009 at 1:09 PM PDT


Experts with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children say if the girl was abducted, it most likely wasn't by a stranger who was hiding in the bushes.

"From what knowledge we have and the information that I have that it's someone that she possibly knows, somebody that is in the area," said Henry Schmidt with the organization.

The FBI now wants neighbors to think about anyone who may have been in the area Friday night. They also want to hear about anyone suddenly engaging in strange behavior, such as not showing up for work, selling their car for no reason or changing their appearance.

"We're certainly not looking for a witch hunt or anything of that sort, but the bottom line is we have a missing girl. And so anyone who is in this area is going to be someone we want to talk to," said Ron Twersky, FBI assistant special agent in charge.

http://www.komonews.com/news/49651607.html


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: Sister on July 16, 2009, 03:54:12 PM
Story Updated: Jul 2, 2009 at 1:09 PM PDT



Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: Sister on July 16, 2009, 03:54:39 PM
oops, slips


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: Edward on July 17, 2009, 12:33:44 PM
This man needs to be looked at in the case of 3 different people to see if he had befriended and or associations with any or all of them..
If it is all of them.. Then he really needs to be looked at.

jmho


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: love4ever on July 18, 2009, 05:43:35 AM
North Cascade Consulting Wetlands And Critical Areas
2303 Montgomery Pl
Mount Vernon, WA  98274

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Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: Edward on July 18, 2009, 02:53:52 PM
Watne Name Meaning and History
Norwegian: habitational name from any of some twenty or so farmsteads in Agder and Vestlandet, so named from Old Norse vatn ‘water’, ‘lake’.

Dictionary of American Family Names, Oxford University Press, ISBN 0-19-508137-4

Most landed in North Dakota ..

Link provides locations of most Watne family members..

http://www.ancestry.com/facts/Watne-family-history.ashx



Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: AZSunny on July 19, 2009, 02:14:11 PM
There is a Wayne Watne on face book listed as from Olympia, WA.


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: Sister on July 21, 2009, 09:31:30 PM
State review of logging site joined by those who OK'd it
By LEWIS KAMB
P-I INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER

State forestry officials are investigating claims made about a recent logging project conducted at a Boy Scout camp in Southwest Washington, after a consultant who reviewed it for the Seattle P-I concluded that it violated three state rules, including required protections to a waterway that provides habitat to protected salmon.


SEATTLEPI.COM
To read "Chain Saw Scouting," the P-I's special report, go to seattlepi.com/specials/
scoutslogging.
Now, a state geologist has drafted a report disagreeing with one of the violation claims made by the P-I's consultant, despite conducting his review alongside state foresters directly involved in the logging project's approval but who had not been authorized to investigate the matter.

"We had tried to set this up intentionally so that (the geologist) would not have any outside influence," said Lenny Young, the department's new supervisor. "That's not how it turned out."

The logging case at the Pacific Harbor Council's Camp Delezenne near Elma was prominently featured in the first of a multi-part investigative series by five Hearst Newspapers. The report found Scouting councils nationwide have been involved in high impact commercial logging and land sales to developers of sensitive timberlands.

   
   Gilbert W. Arias / P-I
  Leslie Lingley, who described herself as "team leader" of the state forest practices' science team, and state Fish and Wildlife biologist Wayne Watne stop to talk Tuesday after inspecting the buffer zone around Delezenne Creek, on land owned by the Pacific Harbors Council of the Boy Scouts of America, near Elma.
While state geologist Charles Chesney was conducting his officially requested review, other DNR personnel joined him at Camp Delezenne to conduct an unauthorized "investigation."

Acting on a tip Tuesday, the P-I traveled to Camp Delezenne and found the team conducting fieldwork in response to issues raised in the news report.

"We are doing an investigation," said Leslie Lingley, who described herself as "team leader" of the state forest practices' science team conducting the review. "We're just starting. We're looking at what was raised in the newspaper. We've made no conclusions."

Lingley said her group had conducted office research the day prior, and she added the in-the-field investigation would include taking buffer width and slope measurements, gathering information on stream characteristics and reviewing such data with the project's logging plan, among other measures.

But on Wednesday, Young -- recently promoted to the department's chief of operations under new Public Lands Commissioner Peter Goldmark -- told the P-I he hadn't authorized that investigation.

"That shouldn't have happened," Young said.

Rather, Young said he personally had authorized only Chesney, the department's expert on determining "channel migration zones," to examine Delezenne Creek adjacent to the logging site. Chesney, who was also among those in Lingley's group at the camp Tuesday, was asked to determine if the creek met the characteristics for such a special type of waterway, Young said.

"My direction was simply for Leslie to accompany Charles out there," said Young. "I just asked her to accompany him because she knew the area better. I was not aware the others were going to come out there."

Young added Lingley may have overstated what she was doing when describing it as "an investigation."

Goldmark has not responded to the P-I's repeated requests for an interview this week, including calls to his office Wednesday. His spokesman said the new commissioner's schedule was simply booked solid.

Channel migration zones, or CMZs, are naturally meandering waterways in wide river valleys that require additional tree buffers to be preserved from logging under state forest practice rules.

Among his findings, the P-I's consultant, Chris Mendoza, concluded Delezenne Creek constituted such a CMZ -- "a classic case," he said. But the council's logging plan misidentified the stream, Mendoza said, which allowed the Scouts' logger to cut down more trees.

Late Wednesday, Young e-mailed a P-I reporter with Chesney's preliminary report, which disagreed with Mendoza's findings that the waterway constitutes a CMZ.

The report is just the first in what will be a series of steps "to understand how and why Charles and Chris reached different conclusions with respect to channel migration zone," Young said. The department next plans to take Chesney, Mendoza and a forest practices policy official to the site, Young said.

"I wouldn't refer to it as an official investigation," Young added. "But we're definitely looking into what was raised in the article."

Mendoza, a habitat conservation biologist who co-chairs a state forest practices science committee, and a private consultant who has worked for the timber industry, environmentalists, tribal, state and federal government agencies, stood behind his findings Wednesday.

"We're clearly in disagreement," Mendoza said of Chesney's report, adding that he has used the same criteria to define a different channel migration zone that was approved by the state.

Along with his findings about Delezenne Creek, Mendoza also found the Scouting council's logger did not properly define a potentially "steep unstable slope" that posed risks of discharging sediment into the waterway, and potentially onto Scouting camp sites; and that the Scouts' logging also failed to leave enough trees to meet the required size of buffer it purported that it had left next to the waterway.

"There are blatant rules violations here," Mendoza told the P-I of his findings. "These were some big, valuable trees. It looks like they wanted to take as many as possible, and broke the rules to do it."

Tim Garber, the council's new executive, did not return a phone call or e-mail Wednesday seeking comment for this story. Officials for the Pacific Harbors Council previously have said the logging met all state regulations and was thoughtfully planned to minimize impact on the camp property and the environment.

Council officials showed a P-I reporter and photographer part of the harvest site last year, but denied Mendoza's participation in that visit.

The clearcut primarily targeted an 80-year-old stand of Douglas firs, some of them more than three feet in circumference, records show. The harvest brought in $140,000, council officials said, $20,000 of which was used for a new roof on a camp building. Most of the remaining money also will be spent on property projects, they said.

The P-I previously provided Goldmark's spokesman, Aaron Toso, with a draft copy of Mendoza's findings, with the understanding the newspaper would later seek to get Goldmark's response.

On Tuesday, Toso said he provided hard copies of the report to Goldmark and to Young.

Young said Wednesday he didn't recall receiving the copy, and said he hadn't read it.

"I don't recall receiving that. I have not read Chris' report," Young said, adding he doesn't believe Lingley or other DNR personnel involved in the case had read Mendoza's findings either.

"We wanted Charles (Chesney) to go into that situation cold. We set it up intentionally that way so we would not have him influenced."

But when asked why then Lingley and her group, which included foresters who had approved the logging, had accompanied Chesney during his review, Young conceded his intentions fell short.

"That's not how it turned out," he said.

Along with Chesney, Lingley's group of DNR personnel included Jack Shambo, the forest practices manager for the district where the logging took place, and Andy Aschenbrenner, a state forest practices forester who approved the Scouting council's logging project, records show.

Aschenbrenner said Tuesday he met with a representative for Sierra Pacific Industries -- the timber company that the Pacific Harbors Council of Boy Scouts hired for the project -- before, during and after the logging. When asked, Aschenbrenner said he observed no problems with the Scouts' logging plan or the timber harvest done at the site at the time of his involvement.

Asked Wednesday if it was normal to have those involved in approving a timber harvest to later be involved in investigating the same harvest for potential violations, Young said it was not -- but added the matter hadn't risen to an official investigation.

"I could easily see where they (Aschenbrenner and Shambo) would have a strong interest, a professional pride in making sure their work was done well," Young said. "If they got wind of it, or Leslie had called them up to join her, I can see how that happened."

Young said he hasn't determined if he would seek to review any of Mendoza's other findings, but likely will ask Lingley to write a report.

Young added that if a formal investigation does occur, it will involve determining if the landowner violated forestry rules or whether DNR approved plan conditions it shouldn't have.

"The landowner has a responsibility to provide complete and accurate information," Young said. "We assume that all information is correct. Then, we do our due diligence."

Among the state officials at Camp Delezenne on Tuesday was state Fish and Wildlife biologist Wayne Watne, who also worked on the Scouting council's logging project.

Asked specifically if Delezenne Creek constitutes a "channel migration zone," as Mendoza concluded, Watne was hesitant to say. Watne agreed that just downstream of the camp, Delezenne Creek is a "classic CMZ."

But he added he wasn't familiar enough with the waterway's characteristics through the camp to say if that stretch also constituted a CMZ.

"What did they tell you about it?" Watne asked, referring to the state forestry officials investigating the site. "I don't know what their findings are going to be, so I'll wait to answer that."



Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: Northern Rose on July 25, 2009, 11:35:17 PM
Fishing club helps kids tackle trout at Heart Lake
June 14, 2007 - 01:52 PM
by Joan Pringle

Hunter Wickman, 11, shows off his 35-ounce rainbow trout with forest and fish biologist Wayne Watne at the 15th annual Kids All-American Fishing Derby Saturday at Heart Lake. Wickman won for the largest fish caught in his age group and also for largest catch of the day. Alexis Calandra, 9, caught a rock but not any fish at the 15th annual Kids All-American Fishing Derby Saturday at Heart Lake in Anacortes. But she still had fun.

Alexis, who fished from the shore with her father, Anthony Calandra, was one of more than 100 children having a great time at the free event sponsored by the Anacortes Parks and Recreation Department and the Fidalgo Chapter of Puget Sound Anglers.

“This is such a great opportunity. The people are so nice to do this for us,” Anthony Calandra said.

Families came up who didn’t know a thing about fishing and the Anglers helped them out, said Nicole Johnson, city recreation coordinator.

The club also provided equipment for those without their own, including life jackets, bait, tackle and fishing rods. About eight Anglers also took children on the water.

“The club members all bring boats and shuffle the kids in and out as fast as they can so the kids catch their fish,” said DJ Stevenson, Angler president.

Derby coordinator Karl Frantz said the members enjoy doing it and enjoy seeing the children having fun. It’s something the whole family can do.

“If they’re fishing, they’re not in trouble,” said Glen Jones, an Angler taking boys and girls out on the lake. “My grandfather and my father taught me how to fish and it’s something you have to pass on.”

Because the lake has often been “fished out” by the time the derby comes around each year, the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife now stocks the lake beforehand, Frantz said.

This year approximately 1,800 rainbow trout were brought down from a hatchery in Whatcom County. The fish were a bit warmer there than at the lake, but the children had no problem reeling them in.

“I never met a fish at any time that would pass on a free meal,” Stevenson said.

Hunter Wickman, 11, caught his first fish at the event. It also happened to be the biggest fish of the day, weighing in at 35 ounces.

Other winners of the day:

• Gavin Montelongo who caught the biggest fish at 29 ounces in the 4 and under age group. Amber Biller’s trout at 9 ounces was the smallest fish in the same group.

• Daniel Whorten caught the biggest trout at 26 ounces and Liam Flint caught the smallest at 11 ounces in the 5 to 7 age group.

• In the 8 to 11 age group, it was Hunter with the biggest and Stephanie Rustad with the smallest at 9 ounces.

• In the 12 to 16 age group, William Famn caught the biggest fish at 28 ounces and Anthony Sanders hooked the smallest at 10 ounces.

Amber and Stephanie also shared the award for smallest fish of the day.

(http://www.goskagit.com/article_images/S-fishing-derby-1-0606.07.jpg)

http://www.goskagit.com/home/print/8447/


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: Northern Rose on July 25, 2009, 11:42:04 PM
From Wayne Watne
By Wired Letters Department  December 1, 2006  |  11:09 am  |  Categories: Church of the Non-Believers, Issue 14.11, Religion
I would like to comment in the “Rants and Raves” column in regard to the aforementioned article published in your Wired magazine edition 14.11. I am a scientist, living on the west coast where the author states is “possibly the social group that is least likely among all Americans to be religious”, and I am a Christian. I am constantly amazed that “well educated” people in the sciences can overlook the simple facts of the discipline in which they themselves participate. The very foundation of the sciences are that, simply stated; 1) matter cannot be created, and 2) everything goes from order to disorder.

To look at these concepts scientifically we need to know what “science” is. Science is looking at the evidence we have around us using each of our senses (sight, sound, taste, touch, smell) to investigate the world around us. Using the simple basics of their own discipline, scientists should be able to discern that there is matter present and if there is matter present, and matter cannot be created by nature or man, then the matter we can clearly observe, came from outside of the influence of man and nature. Furthermore, we can also use science to prove that evolution is in fact impossible. Science says everything goes from order to disorder, evolution says everything goes from disorder to order. Look at the world around us and show me evidence of anything that goes from disorder to order. Your body, home, car, clothes…they all start out orderly and with time become disorderly.


I find it very interesting that this article actually fulfills a biblical prophecy written 2000 years ago. These “scientists” discussed in the article were predicted by the apostle Paul in II Timothy 3:3-4 where it states “for the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn away from the Truth and turn aside to myths”. These “educated” men want to teach what others want to hear… so they can do as they please without having any moral recourse. These men become successful because they are saying what others “itching ears” want to hear.

Thank you for publishing this article, it has been a great tool for me as I show my children and others the “stories” written thousands of years ago in the Bible being fulfilled in front of our very eyes. Keep up the good work. As Jesus once said, “I am coming quickly, like a thief in the night when no one is ready”.

Thanks again, will I see you on the other side of life?

Wayne WatneMount Vernon, WA

http://www.wired.com/letters/2006/12/from_wayne_watn/


Title: Re: Wayne Watne - Missionary At Lindsey's Church; Took Josh Fishing Etc
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on July 26, 2009, 08:22:10 AM
Thank you Northern
I saw that 2nd article before but never saw the 1st article with the image.