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Missing, Exploited and True Crime => Missing Found or Presumed Deceased => Topic started by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 01:15:58 PM



Title: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 01:15:58 PM
Search continues for missing Idaho boy
by The Associated Press
Monday July 27, 2009, 9:12 AM
National Cener for Missing & Exploited ChildrenRobert Manwill

BOISE -- An 8-year-old boy from Boise has been missing since Friday, and the FBI has joined in the search.

Boise police say Robert Manwill went missing about 9:30 p.m. Friday in southwestern Boise and that he may have been headed to a party at a friend's house when he disappeared.

About 20 FBI agents and dozens of local residents were assisting in the search over the weekend.

The Boise Police Department says it will hold a press conference about the search Monday.

On Sunday, Deputy Chief Jim Kerns pleaded with the public for help finding Robert, who is described as 4 feet, 2 inches tall, about 50 pounds, and wearing blue jeans, black shoes, and either a brown shirt with the words, "Andy don't need no Mic" or a blue shirt with a superman symbol on the front.

-- The Associated Press

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/07/search_continues_for_missing_i.html

No AMBER ALERT?  ::MonkeyNoNo::





Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 01:20:15 PM
RBoise police continue search for missing boy with the help of rescue dogs
Anna Webb - Idaho Statesman
Published: 07/25/09

Robert Manwill, 8, has been missing since Friday evening. He was last seen at 9:30 p.m. near his home in the 2800 block of West Cherry Lane.

Idaho Mountain Search and Rescue were called in Saturday morning. Five dogs are searching the area that includes two large canals and the Boise apartment complex where Robert lives near Vista Avenue.

Chris Harry, operations leader with the search and rescue team said the dogs turned up no trace of Robert Saturday afternoon.

Boise Police detectives conducted an extensive area search for Robert during the night, which continued into the morning. There is no evidence of foul play, and it's possible Robert may have spent the night with a friend.

He may have been wearing a brown shirt with writing on the back: "Andy don't need no Mic," or a blue shirt, with a Superman symbol on the front. He was wearing blue jeans and black shoes. He is 4'11," weighs 50 pounds, and has brown hair and brown eyes.

If you've seen Robert, call Ada County Dispatch at 377-6790.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/235/story/845037.html






Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 01:21:16 PM
Search for 8-year-old Boise boy continues Sunday with no solid leads
Statesman staff - Idaho Statesman
Published: 07/26/09

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About 75 volunteers, including off-duty officers, Boise State University officers and residents, methodically scoured the neighborhood around Robert Manwill's home Sunday.

A pond in his apartment complex, which had been searched by divers, was drained in the evening to make sure Robert wasn't in it, a police spokesman said.

The 8-year-old went missing 9:30 p.m. Friday from the 2800 block of Cherry Lane, near Vista Avenue and Targee Street in Southwest Boise. The New York Canal is about two blocks south of the apartment complex where Robert lives.

Boise police filed paperwork to issue an Amber Alert immediately but were denied because the incident does not meet the national criteria, said police spokesman Chuck McClure.

Family members were the last to see Robert. Police at this point don't suspect any family member is involved in his disappearance.

Officers have been searching for him Friday night and have asked anyone who may have seen the boy, even for a moment walking down the street, to call them at Crime Stoppers, 343-COPS.

Robert is roughly 4 foot 2 inches tall, about 50 pounds. He was last seen wearing blue jeans, black shoes and a either a blue shirt with the Superman or Spiderman symbol on it, or a brown shirt that had the words "Andy don't need no mic" on it.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/boise/story/846262.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 01:22:24 PM


This is sad and shocking. No amber alert? An 8-year old child that weighs fifty pounds is missing and his parents don't know what he was wearing at 9:30 on a Friday evening?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 01:28:12 PM
BOISE - An 8-year-old boy has been reported as missing.

Family members told police that Robert Manwill was last seen walking out of his home Friday night on Cherry Lane around 9:30 p.m. Boise Police believe the boy may have been headed to a party at an unknown friends' house when he left.

He was possibly wearing a brown shirt with writing on the back "Andy don't need no Mic" or a blue shirt with a superman symbol on the front. He had on blue jeans and black shoes.

Manwill is 4'11' and weighs 50 pounds.

Manwill is still missing after an extensive area search Saturday and Sunday by Boise Police, Mountain Search and Rescue, and local volunteers.

In a press conference Sunday afternoon, Boise police confirmed 12 FBI agents will assist in the efforts to find Manwill.

According to police, crews will drain the pond at the Oak Ridge Apartments to see if the boy's body could be inside.

As of Sunday, there are still no leads to Manwill's location

Anyone who believes they have seen Manwill is asked to call Ada County Dispatch at 377-6790.
http://www.2news.tv/news/local/51696977.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 01:29:53 PM
UPDATE: FBI now involved in search for missing 8-year-old boy

09:48 PM MDT on Sunday, July 26, 2009

BOISE -- We're now more than 48 hours into the search for Robert Manwill.
Police say they've received some information, but nothing that has led to Manwill.

After two days of searching the biggest question is still out there - what happened to Robert?
So far the answer from everyone is ‘we have no idea.’

"At this point, we don't know where Robert is. We're trying to determine what has happened, and we're pleading with the public for their assistance in locating Robert Manwill," said Deputy Chief Jim Kerns with the Boise Police Dept.

In addition to the public's help, the FBI is now involved.

20 FBI agents are in the area, and more could be on the way at a moment’s notice to help find Manwill.

"We're leaving no stone unturned in that investigation,” Kerns said. “We're looking at all of the potential leads. We're looking at all possibilities in our attempt to find out what's happened to Robert.”

Robert was last seen in his apartment complex on Friday around 7 p.m.
"It's tough. It really is tough, this is very difficult to go through as a family," said Trish Burrill, who is Robert's aunt.

Now, searchers are looking everywhere.

"Go out, look in your sheds, your garages, hiding places, abandoned cars, any place where a young child might hide," Kerns said.

That search included draining a 12 foot deep pond in the middle of Manwill's apartment complex.
Over 100 people roamed neighborhoods looking for anything and everything that might point investigators in the right direction.

"This kid, we thought he was at the park yesterday with us, well not with us with us. Which park? Ann Morrison," said some teenage girls.

Police aren't saying whether this information put them any closer to finding Manwill.
But they do say they won't stop until he's found and neither will Manwill's family.
"I don't recall a time where I've seen this much community support in Boise come out for a search,” said Lt. Doug Shoenborn. “It's really been nice to see a lot of support from the local community.”

"I will search until I find him. No matter what. I will search until I find him. Until he comes home," Burrill said.

The search efforts organized by the Boise Police Department are done for today.
We're told they will regroup in the morning and figure out the best way to proceed.
http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-jul2509-missing_boy.76b69882.html

*Nut took out all the big spaces, lol....


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 01:31:50 PM
On this video it talks about the birthday party. His mom told him he couldn't go so I guess they think he may have went anyway.

http://www.2news.tv/news/local/51696977.html?video=YHI&t=a


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 01:32:59 PM
FBI to Join in Search for Missing Boy

The search continues for a missing 8 year old boy, and now the FBI is getting involved.

Charles McClure of the Boise Police department says they've handed out fliers, stopped cars, and searched a canal and a nearby pond trying to find Robert Manwill who was last seen Friday night about 9:30 near his home in the 2800 block of Cherry Lane.

http://www.670kboi.com/Article.asp?id=1429312&spid=18042


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 01:34:24 PM
According to this video, some teenage girls saw Robert in Ann Morrison Park with other boys on Saturday afternoon.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-jul2509-missing_boy.76b69882.html



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 01:36:20 PM
According to the Idaho State Patrol sex offender registry, there are 408 RSO's within 5 miles of Robert's home. There are 70 within 1 mile. And there are 5-10 VERY close to his home.

2800 W. Cherry Lane address that has been given in reports. That's not his exact address, it's just the block given in media reports.

http://www.isp.state.id.us/sor_id/map_search.htm


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 01:48:58 PM
http://www.kivitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10790517&nav=menu536_11_4_1

video of mom making a plea to the public


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 02:37:31 PM
http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-jul2709-missing_boy.76b69882.html

11:55 AM MDT on Monday, July 27, 2009

Scott Evans/KTVB

Robert Manwill went missing Friday night.

Police asking for any information regarding boy

BOISE - Police continue to search for a missing eight-year-old Boise boy - and say they have no good leads into his disappearance.

Robert Manwill was last seen by family Friday night. Over the weekend, the search for the boy intensified, with hundreds of volunteers, police and the Federal Bureau of Investigation joining forces in an effort to find the child.

Helicopters from the Idaho National Guard have also joined in on the search, and are hovering over the area where he went missing - near Vista Ave. and Cherry Lane in Boise.

During a Monday morning news conference, police say they have received a number of leads - but nothing concrete that tells them where the boy may be.

The child’s family thanked the community for the response they’ve received, and for the large-scale search response.

"It's tough. It really is tough, this is very difficult to go through as a family," said Trish Burrill, who is Robert's aunt.

Police say this is one of the most important cases they’ve covered in a while – but despite the intense effort, they have so far come up empty.
Description

Robert Manwill
8-years-old
4' 2" tall
50 Lbs.
Last seen wearing jeans, black shoes, either a brown or blue shirt
Call 570-6457 with info

"At this point, we don't know where Robert is. We're trying to determine what has happened, and we're pleading with the public for their assistance in locating Robert Manwill," said Deputy Chief Jim Kerns with the Boise Police Dept.

Twenty FBI agents are in the area, and more may be called in.

"We're leaving no stone unturned in that investigation,” Kerns said. “We're looking at all of the potential leads. We're looking at all possibilities in our attempt to find out what's happened to Robert.”

Search crews have been looking in sheds, garages, abandoned cars, homes, in bushes, behind fences and anywhere a small boy could hide.

Officers and volunteers say they will not stop until he's found.

“I don't recall a time where I've seen this much community support in Boise come out for a search,” said Lt. Doug Shoenborn. “It's really been nice to see a lot of support from the local community.”

 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 02:42:07 PM
Police officers and over one hundred volunteers together in prayer before heading out to again look for a missing eight-year-old boy.

Robert Manwill disappeared late Friday night now 48 hours later he is still nowhere to be found.

"At this point we don't know where Robert is we're trying to determine what has happened and pleading with the public for the assistance to locate Robert Manwill", says Deputy Chief Jim Kerns.

Robert's mother tells police he was playing outside near their home before he went missing. Local police with the help of the FBI have been searching night and day hoping to bring some relief to a mother waiting in anguish.

"Please, please help me find my son. I need him to come home", says Melissa Jenkins.

Police say they are also following up on every possible lead but say it's going to take the entire community to help bring Robert home.

"This is a vulnerable child of eight and we need the publics help to help us find him", says Chief Kerns.

If you have any information on the whereabouts of 8-year-old Robert Manwill call the police tip line, 570-6457 or email findrobert@cityofboise.org.

http://www.kivitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10790517&nav=menu536_7



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 02:43:07 PM
Mom - Melissa Jenkins


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on July 27, 2009, 03:13:22 PM
My own opinion is they need to drop the vehicle part of the Amber Alert. Just because no one saw a vehicle or another person does not mean it hasn't happened. If a child goes missing, it should be put our right away at least in a regional area and the longer gone, the more reaching areas. If I had been in Boise Idaho on Friday night, I could have easily driven to Los Angeles by this time, and I would have been in a slower big truck. That would be 950 miles. I am using this as an example, because when a child goes missing in a state, after 3 or 4 days they put it out only statewide. Totally unacceptable!

God bless little Robert Maxwell.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 03:15:55 PM
Police renew call for Boiseans to look for missing boy; 'No reason to believe Robert is not safe'
BY KATY MOELLER - kmoeller@idahostatesman.com
Published: 07/27/09

Boise Deputy Police Chief Jim Kerns speaks at a press conference Monday morning, issuing a renewed call for the public's help to find missing 8-year-old Robert Manville, who disappeared Friday evening from an apartment complex near the intersection of Vista Boulevard and Cherry Lane in Boise.
 
Polly Gorley peers behind a fence on Sunday afternoon as she and about 75 volunteers combed the neighborhood where Robert Manwill, 8, was last seen after he disappeared on Friday night near Vista and Cherry Lane.
 

BOISE, Idaho — Boise police are issuing a renewed call for the public's help to find missing 8-year-old Robert Manville, who disappeared Friday evening from an apartment complex near the intersection of Vista Boulevard and Cherry Lane in Boise.

They want anyone who lives or works around that area to look again in nooks and crannies and quiet spots — anywhere a 50-pound 8-year-old boy might be hiding.

"We hope to convey a message of hope... we have no reason to believe Robert is not safe," said Jim Kerns, deputy chief of operations for Boise police.

Police — with help from other local agencies and the FBI's Child Abduction Response Team — are also expanding their search beyond the half-mile around the apartment complex, which was combed over the weekend. Officials are also re-interviewing family members and neighbors.

Some 50 leads have come in, officials said, but none have panned out. The boy was last seen on the complex's playground after 7 p.m. Friday night and was gone by 9 p.m. Though some initial reports indicated the boy had wanted to go to a birthday party, police said they had no evidence of that.

"It's hard to speculate on his mental state," Kerns said.

About 20 FBI agents and dozens of local residents were assisting in the search over the weekend. Officials drained a pond near the apartment complex and were finishing the search Monday.

The police have set up a special phone line and e-mail address to make it easy for anyone who to contact them with information: (208) 570-6457 - and findrobert@cityofboise.org.

Robert is described as 4-feet, 2-inches tall, about 50 pounds, and wearing blue jeans, black shoes, and either a brown shirt with the words, "Andy don't need no Mic" or a blue shirt with a superman symbol on the front.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/846836.html

News conference video at link.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 03:18:24 PM
No reason to believe he is not safe? Are you KIDDING me?

He is eight years old and MISSING!

He is clearly NOT SAFE!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 03:27:03 PM
My own opinion is they need to drop the vehicle part of the Amber Alert. Just because no one saw a vehicle or another person does not mean it hasn't happened. If a child goes missing, it should be put our right away at least in a regional area and the longer gone, the more reaching areas. If I had been in Boise Idaho on Friday night, I could have easily driven to Los Angeles by this time, and I would have been in a slower big truck. That would be 950 miles. I am using this as an example, because when a child goes missing in a state, after 3 or 4 days they put it out only statewide. Totally unacceptable!

God bless little Robert Maxwell.   ::MonkeyAngel::

I agree.The vast majority (74%) of the abducted children who are murdered are dead within three hours of the abduction. (Source: Attorney General of the State of Washington, who did a study of cases reported to law enforcement in 1997)

I think all children should be treated as ABDUCTED until proven otherwise. Especially 8 year olds missing at 9:30 at night. A regionally/statewide amber alert should be put into effect ASAP, as a child's life may depend on it.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 27, 2009, 05:04:30 PM
Somthin' stinks...

Who has a B-day party for a child after 9 PM ??? Or even at 7??? If there was a party, then the party kid must be near Robert's age, no?? In one report it says cops have no evidence that there was any party....

Some reports say he was last seen at 7 pm Friday, others say 9-9:30. Timeline is hinky. Much about this is hinky...  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 27, 2009, 05:06:50 PM
My own opinion is they need to drop the vehicle part of the Amber Alert. Just because no one saw a vehicle or another person does not mean it hasn't happened. If a child goes missing, it should be put our right away at least in a regional area and the longer gone, the more reaching areas. If I had been in Boise Idaho on Friday night, I could have easily driven to Los Angeles by this time, and I would have been in a slower big truck. That would be 950 miles. I am using this as an example, because when a child goes missing in a state, after 3 or 4 days they put it out only statewide. Totally unacceptable!

God bless little Robert Maxwell.   ::MonkeyAngel::

ITA!!!!!!!  :smt091 :smt091


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 27, 2009, 05:11:35 PM
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/helpfindthemissing/map-20.jpg) map hat tip/Faith @ HFTM and this post is Faith's >>>
This is a good map of the area. To look around more- go to. http://www.bing.com/maps/

type in cherry lane boise, idaho, then click Birds Eye- you can move the map around and see what all is in the area.
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/helpfindthemissing/map-21.jpg)


Area is wayyyyyyyyyy close to Interstate 84
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=43.580702,-116.213593&spn=0.030062,0.027595&msid=113399659680391271186.00046fb362da75f7e9bb8&source=embed


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cartfly on July 27, 2009, 06:35:50 PM
http://www.kivitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10790517&nav=menu536_11_4_1

video of mom making a plea to the public

Bare with me on this but this is interesting, possibly same person? (This Melissa S. posted bail in regards to this. I  realize this is a "common name" so maybe not the same person.

Mom suspected of seriously injuring infant

Story Created: Mar 4, 2009 at 2:20 PM MDT
Story Updated: Mar 4, 2009 at 2:20 PM MDT
By KBCI Web Staff
BOISE - A Boise mother has been arrested for allegedly seriously injuring her infant child last year.

Boise Police says they were called to a local hospital in October on a suspicious injury to a child call. Investigators determined that on the previous day a child under the age of one at the time had been injured at a East Boise home.

Authorities say the boy received what appeared to be serious head injuries during the incident. The child was turned over to the custody of State Health and Welfare.

After a detailed investigation, detectives forwarded the case to the Ada County Prosecutor's office for review.

On Tuesday, Ada County deputies arrested the infant's mother, Melissa Jenkins, 29, for the felony injury to a child warrant.

This Melissa Jenkins myspace is http://www.myspace.com/147783625 (http://www.myspace.com/147783625)

Does anyone think this is the same person? I do not know how to post side by side screen shots so you would need to view pinkangels original link to the video of Robert's mother to compare with the above. There is a picture of this Melissa in my link below.


http://www.2news.tv/news/40736317.html  (http://www.2news.tv/news/40736317.html)



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 06:39:05 PM
I just watched the HLN report on this. They said the boy was not going to a party...that was false reporting.

The boy was last seen on the complex's playground after 7 p.m. Friday night and was gone by 9 p.m. Though some initial reports indicated the boy had wanted to go to a birthday party, police said they had no evidence of that.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cartfly on July 27, 2009, 06:42:54 PM
I really think these two "melissa's" are one of the same and this scares the hell out of me if so. If you pause the video of the mother the faces are almost identical, same nose, chin etc.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 27, 2009, 08:14:47 PM
SAME PERSON IMO!!! OK.....now that I KNOW the two women above ARE the same person...lolllllll. I am not confused anymore, lmao.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 27, 2009, 08:16:00 PM
Robbyn Please help us find ROBERT MANWILL.... I miss my little homie.  ::MonkeyEek:: http://www.myspace.com/423527420


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 08:16:01 PM
Police will update public on search for missing boy at 7 p.m. press conference

BY KATY MOELLER - kmoeller@idahostatesman.com

Published: 07/27/09

BOISE, Idaho — The search for 8-year-old Robert Manwill continued Monday, on several fronts:
— A National Guard helicopter covered as much ground as the boy could have wandered on his own.
— Officers, FBI agents and some 100 volunteers canvassed the area around the Vista Boulevard neighborhood the boy disappeared from, including the areas around the New York Canal and nearby railroad tracks.
Police will update the media and public at a 7 p.m. press conference Monday night. Check back at IdahoStatesman.com for the latest information after that.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 08:20:39 PM
They don't look the same to me. ::shrugs::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 08:34:09 PM
If they are the same person, I am sure police are well aware of her past history. Parents are the first people they look at.

It's odd if it was her, why the other article didn't mention other children in the home.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 27, 2009, 08:46:28 PM
ummmmm, now I am confused. I am OK now...lol. BUT...I still think I think the two above are the same person...or could be. I need more photos.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Sister on July 27, 2009, 09:23:34 PM
This forum has educated me about a lot of things -- many of which I have passed on to people in my little rural corner of the world.
But this Amber Alert needs to be changed or something else needs to be in its place that will become as well known.  Does anyone have any suggestions how we could begin to make this happen?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 09:34:37 PM
Here is a side by side of her at the news conference. She does look like the same woman.  ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 27, 2009, 09:36:40 PM
Oh yeah! If it isn't her, then she has a twin...with the same name...living in the same town  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cartfly on July 27, 2009, 09:39:39 PM
If they are the same person, I am sure police are well aware of her past history. Parents are the first people they look at.

It's odd if it was her, why the other article didn't mention other children in the home.


Thanks for all of your updates on the case.  ::MonkeyAngel::
I thought it was odd also (If the same person) that in all the articles I read, there were no mention of any other children taken from the home either. In one of the articles I read about this March 2009 case the article referred to "Melissa Scott Jenkins".
Thanks for bringing a screen shot from the video over.
I did pause the video for this case of the mother in several places and it sure looks like the same person to me though I hope it isn't.  ::MonkeyConfused:: Time will tell. I also saw the fathers name (of Robert) is Charles Manwill but can not locate anything on him.

Thanks Nutt for bringing over that pic from the other myspace page!! I tried to bring over a screen shot from the video of the mom but lack the skills to do so...::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 09:40:08 PM
The first picture I posted of her, where she is standing in front of the house didn't really look like her but it was an odd angle and her hair wasn't pulled back. She also looks older in that picture.

The news conference screen capture though convinced me, Nut.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cartfly on July 27, 2009, 09:49:28 PM
Oh yeah! If it isn't her, then she has a twin...with the same name...living in the same town  ::MonkeyEek::
Oh, geez this is not good!!! Thanks Pink for finding that new picture. I guess the media (if the same person) either has no clue of this or they have been asked not to print Moms prior history in fear of it affecting the on going search.

On the upside I am glad the FBI is involved. With all that has happened this year for once I am hoping for good news for a change.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 10:03:35 PM
It makes you wonder if it the are one in the same why did Charles Manwill (dad) not file for custody of his son after she had been charged for abusing the infant.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 27, 2009, 10:08:29 PM
http://www.kivitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10790517&nav=menu536_11_4_1

video of mom making a plea to the public

Bare with me on this but this is interesting, possibly same person? (This Melissa S. posted bail in regards to this. I  realize this is a "common name" so maybe not the same person.

Mom suspected of seriously injuring infant

Story Created: Mar 4, 2009 at 2:20 PM MDT
Story Updated: Mar 4, 2009 at 2:20 PM MDT
By KBCI Web Staff
BOISE - A Boise mother has been arrested for allegedly seriously injuring her infant child last year.

Boise Police says they were called to a local hospital in October on a suspicious injury to a child call. Investigators determined that on the previous day a child under the age of one at the time had been injured at a East Boise home.

Authorities say the boy received what appeared to be serious head injuries during the incident. The child was turned over to the custody of State Health and Welfare.

After a detailed investigation, detectives forwarded the case to the Ada County Prosecutor's office for review.

On Tuesday, Ada County deputies arrested the infant's mother, Melissa Jenkins, 29, for the felony injury to a child warrant.

This Melissa Jenkins myspace is http://www.myspace.com/147783625 (http://www.myspace.com/147783625)

Does anyone think this is the same person? I do not know how to post side by side screen shots so you would need to view pinkangels original link to the video of Robert's mother to compare with the above. There is a picture of this Melissa in my link below.


http://www.2news.tv/news/40736317.html  (http://www.2news.tv/news/40736317.html)



FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
 
March 04, 2009
 
 
03-04-09 Felony injury to a child warrant arrest


Boise March 4th, 2009 - On Tuesday (March 3rd) Ada County Deputies arrested a Boise woman on a Felony injury to a child warrant. The Warrant stems from a Boise City case that began last year.
 
Warrant Arrest: Melissa S Jenkins, 29, Boise
 
Charges: Injurty to a child (F)
 
What happened: On 10/20/2008 at approximately 10:39 PM Boise Police where called to a local hospital on a suspicious injury to a child. Investigators determined that on the previous day a child under the age of one at the time had been injured at a East Boise home. The boy received what appeared to be serious head injuries during the incident. The child was taken on imminent danger and turned over to the custody of State Health and Welfare. After a detailed investigation detectives forwarded the case to the Ada County Prosecutors Office for review. Yesterday (March 3rd) Ada County Deputies arrested a Boise woman, the mother of the child, on the Felony injury to a child warrant.
 
No further information is available at this time.
 
Release Prepared By:
Charles McClure
Boise Police Public Information
http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/Police/NewsReleases/2009/page42172.aspx


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 10:15:38 PM
     03/31/2009     Sentenced to Jail or Detention (I18-1501(1) {M} Injury to Child) Confinement terms: Jail: 30 days. Credited time: 1 day.
     03/31/2009    Probation Ordered (I18-1501(1) {M} Injury to Child) Probation term: 2 years 0 months 0 days. (Misdemeanor Supervised)

According to court records, she served jail time.
There is also records there for being sued by the State for Child Support. 

https://www.idcourts.us/


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 27, 2009, 10:17:24 PM
March 05, 2009
Boise mom arrested after son's head injury
 - STATESMAN STAFF
Melissa S. Jenkins, 29, turned herself in at the Ada County Jail Tuesday, hours after a warrant was issued for her arrest on a charge of felony injury to child.
Jenkins' 8-month-old son suffered a fractured skull in October and is in the custody of the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare, Boise police reports. The child was taken to the hospital one day after he was injured, police said.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/boise/v-print/story/687698.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 10:26:11 PM
March 05, 2009
Boise mom arrested after son's head injury
 - STATESMAN STAFF
Melissa S. Jenkins, 29, turned herself in at the Ada County Jail Tuesday, hours after a warrant was issued for her arrest on a charge of felony injury to child.
Jenkins' 8-month-old son suffered a fractured skull in October and is in the custody of the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare, Boise police reports. The child was taken to the hospital one day after he was injured, police said.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/boise/v-print/story/687698.html

They pleaded it quickly down to a misdemeanor. ::shakes head::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Sister on July 27, 2009, 10:29:07 PM
March 05, 2009
Boise mom arrested after son's head injury
 - STATESMAN STAFF
Melissa S. Jenkins, 29, turned herself in at the Ada County Jail Tuesday, hours after a warrant was issued for her arrest on a charge of felony injury to child.
Jenkins' 8-month-old son suffered a fractured skull in October and is in the custody of the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare, Boise police reports. The child was taken to the hospital one day after he was injured, police said.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/boise/v-print/story/687698.html

They pleaded it quickly down to a misdemeanor. ::shakes head::

Pink, this makes me physically ill.  A misdemeanor - WTH
 :puker:


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 10:29:39 PM
This forum has educated me about a lot of things -- many of which I have passed on to people in my little rural corner of the world.
But this Amber Alert needs to be changed or something else needs to be in its place that will become as well known.  Does anyone have any suggestions how we could begin to make this happen?


I agree Sister. Marc Klaas just wrote an article about how the Amber Alert system is broken in his latest newsletter.

http://www.klaaskids.org/pg-newsltr.htm


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 27, 2009, 10:31:48 PM
March 05, 2009
Boise mom arrested after son's head injury
 - STATESMAN STAFF
Melissa S. Jenkins, 29, turned herself in at the Ada County Jail Tuesday, hours after a warrant was issued for her arrest on a charge of felony injury to child.
Jenkins' 8-month-old son suffered a fractured skull in October and is in the custody of the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare, Boise police reports. The child was taken to the hospital one day after he was injured, police said.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/boise/v-print/story/687698.html

They pleaded it quickly down to a misdemeanor. ::shakes head::

Pink, this makes me physically ill.  A misdemeanor - WTH
 :puker:

Sister, me too! WTH indeed!

If they removed the baby, you think Robert would have been removed too. I am at a loss.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cartfly on July 27, 2009, 10:34:12 PM
 http://www.idahostatesman.com/boise/story/687165.html (http://www.idahostatesman.com/boise/story/687165.html)

A 29-year-old Boise mother accused of fracturing her 8-month-old son’s skull in October is charged with felony injury to child.

Melissa S. Jenkins turned herself in at the Ada County Jail Tuesday, hours after a warrant was issued for her arrest by Ada County prosecutors.

The child survived and is currently in the custody of the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare, according to Boise Police reports.

Boise police began their investigation on Oct. 20, when they were called to a local hospital after medical staff reported a child with a suspicious head injury was admitted earlier that day.

Detectives determine the 8-month-old boy was injured the day before at an East Boise home and determined him in imminent danger.

Jenkins is accused of striking the baby’s head on a hard surface and fracturing his skull on Oct. 19, according to Ada County court records. Neither Boise police or Ada County prosecutors have released any other details on the case, including a possible motive for the injury or why it took four months to charge Jenkins with the crime.

Jenkins posted a $5,000 bond and left the Ada County Jail after being arrested Tuesday. A preliminary hearing on the case is scheduled for March 10.

The maximum possible penalty for a felony injury to child is 10 years in prison.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Sister on July 27, 2009, 10:42:53 PM
Pink, thank you so very much for sending me to his site.  He is an incredible man.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cartfly on July 27, 2009, 11:16:29 PM
This is from the Idaho Statesman. It is a "user comment" that follows the article. ::MonkeyShocked::

Replying to skippinalong (July, 27 1:37 PM):
"I agree they need to issue an Amber Alert!!! Also why would responsible parents allow an 8 year old to walk unsupervised to a party at a "un-known friends" house? This all stinks to me, the whole thing.":
The boy is my neighbor. He only stays there in the summer, with his mother and step father. Good kid, great manners. And, YES, there is much that has yet to be told which doth stink.

 http://www.idahostatesman.com/273/story/846836.html?commentSort=TimeStampDescending&pageNum=2&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container (http://www.idahostatesman.com/273/story/846836.html?commentSort=TimeStampDescending&pageNum=2&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container)


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cartfly on July 28, 2009, 04:03:11 AM
Stacks > Eyepiece
Search intensifies for missing 8-year-old
More than 100 volunteers join effort; no evidence of foul play
BY KATY MOELLER - kmoeller@idahostatesman.com
Copyright: © 2009 Idaho Statesman
Published: 07/28/09

   Comments (3) |  Recommend (0)

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Darin Oswald / Idaho Statesman
Teams of volunteers join with Boise police Monday in searching for Robert Manwill, missing since Friday night in the area of South Vista in Boise. Officials said the boy could hide in a very small space if he wanted to. "Act like you're looking for a lost baseball," Officer Will Reimers told the volunteers.

ELSEWHERE
Video: Press conference about search for 8-year-old Robert Manville
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Why no Amber Alert?
Amber Alerts get information about abducted children quickly into the hands of media outlets, law enforcement agencies and even highway departments that operate electronic billboards.

The U.S. Department of Justice has some rules, though, about when such an alert can be issued:

- There has to be a "reasonable belief" the child was abducted.

- Police have to believe the child is in "imminent danger of serious bodily injury or death."

- There is enough descriptive information about the victim and the abduction that it will be helpful to release it.

- The child is 17 years or younger.

Have you seen Robert Manwill?
Police are asking anyone with information to call or e-mail them with anything that could help:

- (208) 570-6457

- findrobert@cityofboise.org

Pam Yancey skipped her hair appointment Monday afternoon when a pair of plainclothes FBI agents showed up at her Oak Park Village apartment in Boise.

Yancey answered questions, filled out a questionnaire and let the men search her apartment and her car. It was the third time since Friday that law enforcement officials had come knocking, and the second time she let them search her apartment.

She said she didn't mind because scores of local and federal police officers and hundreds of volunteers are conducting an unprecedented search for an 8-year-old boy who has been missing since Friday night.

"I just hope they find the kid," Yancey said.

Boise police say family and others last saw Robert Manwill on a playground at the apartment complex where his mother lives. He went missing between 7 p.m. and 9 p.m. Friday, according to Deputy Chief Jim Kerns. Police say there is no evidence of foul play.

The complex is about a half-mile north of Interstate 84, just off of bustling Vista Avenue. It's near the strip mall on Vista that has a liquor store and the Willowcreek Grill, and has three entrances - on Cherry Lane, Targhee Street and Shoshone Street.

Cars were stopped on Vista Avenue on Friday night so police could talk to motorists about whether they'd seen the missing boy. Two motorists complained to the Boise Community Ombudsman Pierce Murphy that the checkpoints were too intrusive.

Byron Ryals was dismayed when the officer asked for his driver's license and called in his license plate.

"I've never been through a checkpoint like this, where I was shaken down," said Ryals, 80, noting that the 40-minute wait meant his wife didn't get her medication on time that night.

The police department underscored the gravity of the situation Monday.

"This is the most important investigation that we have had in a long time," Boise police Chief Michael Masterson said at a press conference Monday.

Kerns said he's been with the Boise Police Department for 27 years and doesn't remember another child going missing for this long. The department took 154 missing-child reports last year and 86 through June this year - and most are quickly resolved. The department said it filed within a few hours of the report the paperwork for an Amber Alert - a fast and wide-ranging notice designed to find abducted children - but it didn't meet the necessary criteria, including a reasonable belief that an abduction has occurred.

Police are investigating about 75 tips received since Friday. An Oak Park pond was drained, but no evidence found.

Initial reports indicated that the boy may have gone to a birthday party, but police have since said they found no evidence of a party.

The search area expanded Monday and police asked for public help in the hopes that someone might find the boy in one of the many "nooks and crannies" in or near his neighborhood. Police urged residents to look for any place a boy might hide - under bushes, in cars or garages.

"The family has said that he likes to sneak around and crawl in little places. He's an inquisitive little kid," said police spokeswoman Lynn Hightower.

From an Idaho National Guard helicopter, police scanned the New York Canal and nearby railroad tracks and pools. Police interviewed sex offenders registered in the area.

About 126 volunteers from the community teamed up with police officers for a ground search of public areas starting about noon Monday. The search teams were looking beyond the half-mile radius from the apartment where the boy was staying with his mom to about 1 mile away, Boise police Lt. Michael Majors said. A similar police-volunteer effort focused on the inner circle Sunday.

Robert lives with his father in New Plymouth, but was visiting his mother and her family Friday, police said.

Another ground search will be conducted Tuesday, Majors said. He praised Idaho Mountain Search & Rescue Unit coordinating volunteers who showed up to help.

The search-and-rescue workers also responded to a police request for search dogs Saturday and Monday. Spokesman Rick Thompson said they were air-scent dogs; such dogs are good for finding missing people in avalanche debris. A second request seeks tracking dogs, which are trained to hone in on specific scents.

Boise residents Sherry Blanchard and Debbie Pew weren't part of the official search Monday, but they were out in the Oak Park neighborhood with fliers in hand to search for the boy. They looked under trees and bushes as they walked near the Oak Park apartments.

"It's just heartbreaking," Blanchard said.

The pair said they - along with a team of Boise police officers - had already looked in an abandoned house for the boy.
[url] http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/847786.html?commentSort=TimeStampDescending&pageNum=1/url]


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cartfly on July 28, 2009, 04:11:47 AM
Quote from local in comment section:
http://www.2news.tv/news/local/51696977.html#idc-ctools (http://www.2news.tv/news/local/51696977.html#idc-ctools)

Quote by Concerned_GMA:


Robert was not at his father's house, Chuck Manwill, he was at his mother's house, Melissa Jenkins, on visitation who has limited visitation when he went missing. His mom's BF let Robert go outside alone and noticed him missing around 9 to 9:30. No one knows who the BF is. Robert's father & Stepmom has custody of him.

I think this is why LE asked Chuck not to speak anymore.

My prayers for Robert's safe return.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 28, 2009, 05:26:50 AM
Day 3 Search For Missing Boise Boy Comes Up Empty
Updated: July 27, 2009 11:26 PM

A search for a missing 8 year-old boy is entering its fourth day Tuesday morning, and despite following over 70 leads police still have found no sign of Robert Manwill.

"This is the most important investigation we have had in a long time", says Police Chief Michael Masterson.

The investigation into the disappearance of eight year old Robert Manwill is more than 72 hours old at this point. Family members reported Robert missing late Friday night from a playground at their apartment complex. Hundreds of volunteers along with police have gone door to door searching for the eight year old boy but nothing has turned up.

"Our hope is to find Robert today and we are very hopeful that will be the outcome", says Deputy Chief Jim Kerns.

Police along with over one hundred volunteers have searched the neighborhood every day expanding the perimeter by a half mile each day. The search also hit the air on Monday. Police still have no idea where Robert is or why he disappeared.

Crews finished draining a pond near the boy's apartment Monday but came up with no signs of the 8-year-old. They've also interviewed residents in the apartment complex a second time as they try to narrow down a possible timeline. They also sent out another plea to the public for help. "Please check area's around your home the sheds garages, abandoned vehicles any place were a little boy might hide," Kerns said at an evening media briefing.

Investigators also questioned sex offenders in the area. The Idaho Sex Offender Registry shows there are 71 registered sex offenders with in a mile of his home.

"We are not ready to say that Robert was abducted we don't not have any indication that Robert was abducted", Kerns said early Monday.

In the meantime family members still holding out hope Robert will be found safe and sound.

"we want you to keep your eye's and ears open pay attention to every little detail and look for robert and bring him home," Robert's Aunt Tricia Burrill said Monday night.

The search will be expanded out to a mile and half radius on Tuesday. Police are not looking for anymore volunteers to help.

 If you have any information on the whereabouts of 8-year-old Robert Manwill call the police tip line, 570-6457 or email findrobert@cityofboise.org.

http://www.kivitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10790517&nav=menu536_9_7_1



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 28, 2009, 05:35:46 AM
From the sister of Roberts Bio Dad's New Wife - Afton Manwill:

The instance of Robert asking to go to a party was true but he had asked earlier in the day from the way I understand it. The mothers boyfriend had let robert go out to play sometime around seven while his mother was at work. Around nine to nine thirty it was noticed that Robert was gone. Why he was out playing by himself I JUST CAN NOT UNDERSTAND!! I have two sons of my own one is 9 and one just turned 5 on saturday. I NEVER let them go ANYWHERE unattended with the exception of my yard. Now I can't verify that all of what I have been told as true but this is the story to the best of my knowledge. My sister and Robert's father have primary custody of Robert while his mother has limited visitation. Her visitation was revoked a while ago until she completed some time in lock up and several hours of parenting/anger management classes for the fracture in her infants skull.

Mellisa had only limited visitation and robert was at her house durring one of her visitation times.

http://www.helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15748&page=6



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 28, 2009, 07:39:00 AM
Originally Posted by annalyzer 
Are there any other children at the mother's home besides Robert when he visits? In other words where is the baby that Melissa was charged with injuring?
---------
Posted by Doitlaynstyle
Charged and convicted. I just want that known. The baby is back in the custody of Melissa.post 73
http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15748&page=8


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 28, 2009, 08:39:26 AM
Originally Posted by annalyzer 
Are there any other children at the mother's home besides Robert when he visits? In other words where is the baby that Melissa was charged with injuring?
---------
Posted by Doitlaynstyle
Charged and convicted. I just want that known. The baby is back in the custody of Melissa.post 73
http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15748&page=8

Charged with a felony for causing a SKULL fracture to her infant child, pleaded it down, served 30 days total and the baby is back to her with a few months. WTF is wrong with our system???

There is a case in the crimes forum about a mom with known mental problems that chopped up and ate her baby...a baby that never should have been in her care!!

Who is protecting these children because clearly the family around them and the government agencies in place to protect them are NOT doing anything to protect them.

I am praying for Robert, that he is safe and found quickly.

I fear that mom or the step-dad (boyfriend) did something awful to this child or one of the many SO's in the area snatched him from the playground where he was playing for hours unsupervised and has done something awful to him.

I am just heartsick and disgusted.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: MuffyBee on July 28, 2009, 09:10:26 AM
http://www.idahopress.com/news/?id=25073
The search goes on for missing Boise boy Robert Manwill
(http://www.idahopress.com/cms/artwork/articleimages/09/July/10262_medium.jpg)
Tabitha Keily
tkeily@idahopress.com
Updated 6 hours 53 minutes ago
Tues., July 28, 2009
BOISE — After chasing more than 50 leads, Boise investigators say they still don't know the whereabouts of Robert Manwill, an 8-year-old who went missing Friday night.

Teams volunteers and police, including about 20 agents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation, have combed the Boise area for Manwill, who was last seen about 9:30 p.m. Friday night in the 2800 block of Cherry Lane.

Family told police he may have been headed to a party at an unknown friend's house.

Detectives have created a tip phone line and e-mail for people to report any information they may have about Manwill's location. Police hope that as area residents return home from a busy weekend, more people could provide information.

Boise Police Department detectives said there is no indication Manwill was abducted. Since there is no evidence of abduction, police have limited the search to the Boise area.
(http://www.idahopress.com/cms/artwork/articleimages/09/July/10261_medium.jpg)
Clint Matthews, left, of Idaho Mountain Search and Rescue, and other members of the unit remove a tent and barriers from the command center Monday evening as they wrap up a day of searching for Robert Manwill, 8, of Boise, near his home on Cherry Lane. More than 125 civilian volunteers are expected to continue the search for Manwill today.
Greg Kreller/IPT

Robert Manwill tip line, e-mail

Anyone with information about Robert

Manwill's whereabouts can either:

    * Call the tip line: 570-6457
    * Call Crime Stoppers: 343-COPS
    * E-mail: findrobert@cityofboise.org

Have you seen this boy?

Police say 8-year-old Robert Manwill is 4 feet, 2 inches tall and weighs 50 pounds. He was last seen wearing blue jeans, black shoes and a either a blue shirt with the Superman or Spiderman symbol on it, or a brown shirt that had the words "Andy don't need no mic" on it.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 28, 2009, 01:14:22 PM


Boise, Idaho -- The search continues for 8-year-old Robert Manwill.

Family members were the last to see Manwill as he walked out of his Boise Apartment Friday. Boise Police are now saying they've never dealt with a case like this, and they're now very concerned for Manwill's safety. Up until this point, they haven't really said that.

Because of his age and the time he's been missing, 72 hours, they're now very concerned for his safety. As of Monday, the standing pond that is in Manwill's apartment complex, has been drained and there's no sign of him in there. They've also skimmed any standing water or canals in the area.

Police have also been in contact with any registered sex offenders in the area. They're really not telling us if they've got any good leads from them. However, they have told us they've gotten over 75 leads, but whether that means actual legitimate leads they're not saying.

Manwill's aunt, who is acting as a family spokesperson, had this to say at Monday's press conference:

"We want you to keep your eyes open, and your ears open we want you to pay attention to every detail and look for Robert look for him and bring him home that is our main goal. "

We have been told by the Boise Police that all of his family are in the area. Along with over 20 FBI agents, the Air National Guard is also offering its services. They've had helicopters combing the area around Manwill's apartment complex.




http://www.fox12idaho.com/Global/story.asp?S=10800341&nav=menu439_2


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 28, 2009, 01:29:32 PM
http://www.2news.tv/home/ondemand/15768972.html

Suppose to be a presser shortly. I will take notes. You can watch live at link.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 28, 2009, 02:02:08 PM
Crib notes from presser:

Day 4 - Robert is still missing.
Their single focus is finding Robert.
Appreciates all the family support and the family from out of town who are making the trip to Boise daily.
Team ADAM and the FBI are involved.
New Investigators are arriving daily.
Community has been actively involved and thanked them for being so.
100 Volunteers turning out daily to help the search, local businesses donating supplies and such to help support.
100 new leads. They can't discuss the leads because of the nature of the investigation.
They have contacted and interviewed over 100 SO's.
House to house checks will continue.
Often rechecking and re-interviewing is done, so if you see them checking an area again that they checked before or if they re-interview someone, they are just doing what they do in the normal course of retracing steps.
They mentioned they are concerned for Robert's safety. It has been too long.
Asks the community to check their property and all nooks and crannies for Robert. Also to download his poster at boisepolice.org and hang it whenever they can to help get his picture out there.

They are focusing on the timeline.
He was reported missing just after 10 p.m. to LE.
Police are asking all parents to question their children about any contact they may have had with Robert on Friday and if they have had contact, call the tipline. They want to document his movements for the day.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 28, 2009, 02:18:24 PM
11:44 AM MDT on Tuesday, July 28, 2009

Edgar Linares/KTVB

Robert Manwill went missing Friday night.

BOISE -- Hundreds of police and volunteers are once again spread out across a wide area of the Boise Bench today hoping to find a missing boy.

Eight-year-old Robert Manwill has been missing since Friday night.

At this morning's briefing, Boise Police gave us an update on what Robert was wearing.

He has on faded blue T-shirt, with a Superman logo. He was also wearing blue jeans and dark sneakers.

Police told us there is no evidence of an abduction and family members continue to fly in from across the country for support.

We talked with volunteers from Idaho Mountain Search and Rescue. U sually they're looking for missing people in the mountains, but this week they're helping track Robert in the city.

"In the mountains our usual response may be 16 people," said George Gunn, Idaho Mountain Search and Rescue. "Again we'll have volunteers that will show up for a wilderness search. But here we had over 100 people that wanted to walk the streets and help look for this young man."

Search manager George Gunn says the role they're playing in Robert's search is volunteer organizer.

They're checking people in and making sure the same people sign out.

A small, but important role on an otherwise large search.

Gunn says searching for a person in the city has its own challenges compared to combing a mountain side.

"One of the big challenges with urban situation is this is a clue rich environment. There's all sorts of stuff and information out there that has to be sifted through.  Finding a candy wrapper here in the city it's hard to determine if it's associated with the young man or not," said Gunn.

Gunn says he and his volunteers will stay helping with the search until police no longer need them.

Today more than 100 volunteers are helping in teams -- they will go out with officers.

The search has expanded to a mile-and-a-half radius.

Police want people to know that anyone can print out fliers to hand out to the public and encourage them to do so.

Click on this link to download or print a flyer.

If you've seen anything or have any information about Robert's disappearance call the tipline at 570-6457. It is staffed 24 hours a day.


http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-jul2809-volunteers_missing_boy.85a06217.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: MuffyBee on July 28, 2009, 02:19:15 PM
I am so worried about Robert.  When he wasn't found in a few hours or even by morning, it's just had me checking back here and checking the news to see if he's been found.  This is very, very bad.  I pray for his safe return. 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 28, 2009, 02:23:49 PM
Boise police are working Tuesday to recreate a detailed timeline of what Robert Manwill did on Friday — the day the 8-year-old disappeared and sparked a more than three-day intensive search in his neighborhood around south Vista Boulevard in Southwest Boise.

Police now say the boy was last seen wearing a faded blue T-short with a Superman logo, blue jeans and dark tennis shoes. He went missing from a playground at his mother's apartment complex near the intersection of Vista and Targee Street — about half a mile from Interstate 84 and even closer to the New York Canal.

Police, FBI agents and more than 100 volunteers have scoured the neighborhood, looking for nooks and crannies where the boy may have hid — including tiny places where a small boy could tuck himself.

"Act like you're looking for a lost baseball," Officer Will Reimers told a group of volunteer searchers Monday.

"The family has said that he likes to sneak around and crawl in little places. He's an inquisitive little kid," said police spokeswoman Lynn Hightower.

Robert lives with his father in New Plymouth, but was visiting his mother and her family Friday, police said.

Police stopped traffic and searched nearby homes over the weekend. They have interviewed more than 100 registered sex offenders living nearby and chased 100 leads — none of which have panned out.

From an Idaho National Guard helicopter, police scanned the New York Canal and nearby railroad tracks and pools. A pond near the apartment complex was drained and searched.

Police have set up a dedicated tip line and e-mail address: 208-570-6457 and findrobert@cityofboise.org.

The family has thanked the more than 100 volunteers for their aid. But police said Tuesday they no longer need people to offer up their help in the search — although they still want anyone living in the area to take an extra close look at any place in and around their property the boy may be hidden.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/848190.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 28, 2009, 02:30:58 PM
I am so worried about Robert.  When he wasn't found in a few hours or even by morning, it's just had me checking back here and checking the news to see if he's been found.  This is very, very bad.  I pray for his safe return. 

I am worried too Muffy. I am not feeling a happy ending for this little one although I pray their will be one and I that my feeling is wrong.

I so want to be wrong. I want Robert home safe and sound and back with his Daddy.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 28, 2009, 02:44:59 PM
INFO FROM WS
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87061&page=4

From impatientredhead at WS: Okay, looked up the father of the 8 month old who may or may not be the current boyfriend. He has a battery, probation violation, grand theft auto, two burglaries, fraud by bounced check, and some petty stuff from when he was younger. He is Jr and Sr has a bunch of financial civil cases so the money ones are bit harder to sort out. But he sounds like a real winner.

He also has a sealed case just like Melissa.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Sister on July 28, 2009, 02:47:44 PM
O/T - can someone help me find the articles about the cleaning lady from NJ (I think) that was murdered on the 8th floor of a building?  Not too long ago.  Sorry for O/T but her story has haunted me and I wanted to follow up.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 28, 2009, 02:50:53 PM
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5643.0

for sister


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 28, 2009, 02:52:04 PM
O/T - can someone help me find the articles about the cleaning lady from NJ (I think) that was murdered on the 8th floor of a building?  Not too long ago.  Sorry for O/T but her story has haunted me and I wanted to follow up.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5643.0

Hope you didn't have lunch yet. It's grim details, hon.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 28, 2009, 02:54:40 PM
FROM WS
Daniel Ehrlick Jr is the father of the 8 month old according the child support payable to foster care case.

There is an attachment at the link, but I can't open it.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87061&page=4


~~~~~~~~~
my note: we do not know the name of the current BF ... it may not be the named man above.
This is getting complicated....


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 28, 2009, 02:56:44 PM
Fact sheet, Monday, July 27th, 2009, 7:00 p.m.

Find Robert Tip Line: 570-6457 or findrobert@cityofboise.org

Robert is being considered an endangered missing child, and has been since he was reported missing, because of his age and the length of time he’s been away from home.

Leads:

Up to approx 75 leads that investigators are following. At this time, because of the nature of the leads, details of those leads cannot be disclosed. However, citizens are encouraged to continue to provide any information, including sightings of Robert beginning Friday morning, July 24th.

Assisting Agencies:

Because of the importance of this investigation, investigators from national law enforcement and missing children’s associations, and several local, Treasure Valley law enforcement agencies are helping Boise PD in the search and investigation including; FBI, National center for Missing and Exploited Children – Team Adam, Ada County and Canyon County Sheriff’s Offices, Meridian, Garden City, Idaho State Police, officers with the Treasure Valley Metro Violent Crimes task Force.

House to House Search:

More than 40 officers assisted today with the house to house search. That search in the immediate area of Robert’s disappearance is continuing.

Volunteers:

126 Volunteers coordinated by Boise Police, with assistance from Idaho Mountain Search & Rescue. Search & Rescue helped check in and coordinate, identify, and sign in volunteers.

At this time, no additional volunteers are needed. Same group of 120 + volunteers will continue their grid search tomorrow (Tuesday)

Volunteer search went in a grid ½ mile to one mile from child’s residence. Searched railroad tracks, around the New York canal, culverts near I-84, area shopping centers, sidewalks and neighborhood streets.

Volunteers were split into 9 groups, each with an officer assigned to assist them. Ten Boise Police officers are assigned to help with the volunteer search effort.

Volunteers include a wide variety of community members, from retired folks, to parents with children, to teenagers wanting to help.

Volunteers are looking for anything that would help identify where Robert is or has been, possibly items of clothing or personal affects. Volunteers are searching only public areas. If they find anything that may be of importance, they contact a police officer, who evaluates it for possible evidence.

Sunday, July 26th, volunteers search the public areas from the child’s apartment residence to ½ mile out.

The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children recommends searching public areas up to one-mile from where the child was reported missing, so at this time, the volunteer search has gone beyond that.

The volunteer search effort will continue tomorrow, Tuesday, July 28th.

Helicopter Search:

An Idaho Army National Guard helicopter conducted an aerial search of the area, searching for a different perspective from the air, looking over an area where an 8 year old boy might walk or wander from his home.

Pond Search:

Boise City Public Works assisted with draining the large pond in the apartment complex. Investigators searched the mud bottom of the empty pond and found no evidence of Robert.

Registered Sex Offenders:

Officers are continuing to interview registered sex offenders in the area of Robert’s disappearance.

Missing Child Reports made to Boise Police:

2008 – 154
Jan 1 thru June 30, 2009 – 86
Some of those reports turned into runaway reports. All other missing child reports were resolved, typically within few hours, some with the public’s help following a media release.

Amber Alert:

Please log onto http://www.amberalert.gov/guidelines.htm
Please read and understand what the Amber Alert is, it’s goals and objectives. The Amber Alert is for confirmed child abductions. Confirmed child abductions are rare and unique from an investigative perspective. They rely on urgency and suspect information to get the publics attention.

Background:

Robert was reported missing to Boise Police approx 9:30 p.m., Friday, July 24th.

A family member and a neighbor tell police he was last seen in his apartment complex on the 2800 blk of Cherry Lane, southwest of Vista and Overland in Boise. The exact time of where Robert was last seen is still being investigated. Robert was visiting his mother, her husband and family when he was reported missing. Robert typically lives with his father, his wife and family in New Plymouth.

Robert's Description: Robert Manwill is 8 years old, roughly 4'2, weighing approximately 50 lbs. He was last seen wearing blue jeans, black shoes and a either a blue shirt with the superman or spiderman symbol on it, or a brown shirt that had the words "Andy don't need no mic" on it.

The first news release was issued by Boise Police Saturday morning at 4:45 a.m.. Although there was no evidence of foul play at that time, officers were, and still are very concerned for Robert’s safety based on his age and the length of time he had been away from home.

What Can People Do:

A missing person flyer is available to download at www.boisepolice.org. Citizens are welcome to print and post the flyer in appropriate area.

Anyone with any information about Robert, or who may Find Robert Tip Line: 570-6457 or findrobert@cityofboise.org
http://www.cityofboise.org/


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Sister on July 28, 2009, 02:56:44 PM
O/T - can someone help me find the articles about the cleaning lady from NJ (I think) that was murdered on the 8th floor of a building?  Not too long ago.  Sorry for O/T but her story has haunted me and I wanted to follow up.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5643.0

Hope you didn't have lunch yet. It's grim details, hon.

Thanks Nutt and Pink, yes, I had read before.  I was hoping for an update on her murderer.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 28, 2009, 02:58:35 PM
FROM WS
Daniel Ehrlick Jr is the father of the 8 month old according the child support payable to foster care case.

There is an attachment at the link, but I can't open it.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87061&page=4


~~~~~~~~~
my note: we do not know the name of the current BF ... it may not be the named man above.
This is getting complicated....

It may not be the father. She has been divorced at least twice.

She may not be with the baby daddy.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 28, 2009, 03:03:02 PM
FROM WS
Daniel Ehrlick Jr is the father of the 8 month old according the child support payable to foster care case.

There is an attachment at the link, but I can't open it.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87061&page=4


~~~~~~~~~
my note: we do not know the name of the current BF ... it may not be the named man above.
This is getting complicated....

It may not be the father. She has been divorced at least twice.

She may not be with the baby daddy.

The above "fact sheet" from the police says he was visiting his mother, her husband and family.

I assume then she is married to Mr. Jenkins???



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: burkieandemme on July 28, 2009, 03:38:18 PM
Thank you PinkAngel for all of you hard work on this and so many other cases!

I too am worried that this small child will not make it home to his daddy.  It bothers me Robert was left in the boyfriend/husbands care while Melissa was a work.  This individual's name has not been released to the public. He is not on the news pleading for Robert's safe return. No one can cofirm if he was Robert's step-father or some fly-by-night boyfriend.  I am worried he did something to Robert and had a few hours to cover it up.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cartfly on July 28, 2009, 03:40:38 PM
Originally Posted by annalyzer 
Are there any other children at the mother's home besides Robert when he visits? In other words where is the baby that Melissa was charged with injuring?
---------
Posted by Doitlaynstyle
Charged and convicted. I just want that known. The baby is back in the custody of Melissa.post 73
http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15748&page=8

 ::MonkeyNoNo::What Moron would give this baby back to it's mother? I am so pssd right now! What a flippin joke that is. I bet if the media had followed through and updated the case till the end the public would have put pressure on the DA and she would not have gotten that baby back!!!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 28, 2009, 04:01:30 PM
Originally Posted by annalyzer 
Are there any other children at the mother's home besides Robert when he visits? In other words where is the baby that Melissa was charged with injuring?
---------
Posted by Doitlaynstyle
Charged and convicted. I just want that known. The baby is back in the custody of Melissa.post 73
http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15748&page=8

 ::MonkeyNoNo::What Moron would give this baby back to it's mother? I am so pssd right now! What a flippin joke that is. I bet if the media had followed through and updated the case till the end the public would have put pressure on the DA and she would not have gotten that baby back!!!

She pleaded the same month she was charged. Was a misdemeanor "injury to a child" instead of felony child abuse (with a sentence of up to 10 years)

She served 30 days, 2 years probation, took some parenting classes and it's July, just a few months later and she has the baby back already.

Wonderful system protecting the children isn't it? Poor poor babies.

I ranted a page or two back, you must have missed it. ;)





Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cartfly on July 28, 2009, 04:06:15 PM
http://videos.idahostatesman.com/vmix_hosted_apps/p/media?id=5306307&item_in%20dex=1&all=1&sort=NULL  (http://videos.idahostatesman.com/vmix_hosted_apps/p/media?id=5306307&item_in%20dex=1&all=1&sort=NULL)

In the above presser for the 27th, I think the man standing with Melissa (frame starting at 1:00)
must be the stepdad. I am gonna go out on a limb here but my hinkymeter is flying high while watching his body movements!! He looks like he is "aggravated" or "miffed" to be there during the presser almost like he has better things to be doing. Melissa does look somewhat distraught.
 I think when it is all said and done Melissa and "stepdad" are going to be the ones responsible for this child's disappearance.  JMO-Already, she didn't have custody of Robert and then she is arrested for injuring her other baby-I see a pattern!!! There had to be a really good reason why she did not have full custody of Robert.

I hope I am wrong, but  I think this stinks to high heaven and CPS definitely did not do it's job regarding these two children.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: :smt013


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 28, 2009, 04:09:17 PM
Thank you PinkAngel for all of you hard work on this and so many other cases!

I too am worried that this small child will not make it home to his daddy.  It bothers me Robert was left in the boyfriend/husbands care while Melissa was a work.  This individual's name has not been released to the public. He is not on the news pleading for Robert's safe return. No one can cofirm if he was Robert's step-father or some fly-by-night boyfriend.  I am worried he did something to Robert and had a few hours to cover it up.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Welcome burkieandemmie, can I call you bande for short? ;)

That is my worry also, that either him or mom may have did something awful to Robert. They haven't named him or confirmed in any articles. Although he is mentioned as being Melissa's "husband" in the LE fact sheet above I posted.

I have been praying since I started the thread and slept very little. Not only Robert has me worried, Lindsey, Haleigh, Amber and all the others have me worried.

This is a worse pandemic than any FLU. Our children are being stolen, murdered and abused and little is being done to protect them.

It makes me sick to my stomach and angry as mother wolf wanting to protect her cubs.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cartfly on July 28, 2009, 04:12:51 PM
Originally Posted by annalyzer 
Are there any other children at the mother's home besides Robert when he visits? In other words where is the baby that Melissa was charged with injuring?
---------
Posted by Doitlaynstyle
Charged and convicted. I just want that known. The baby is back in the custody of Melissa.post 73
http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15748&page=8

 ::MonkeyNoNo::What Moron would give this baby back to it's mother? I am so pssd right now! What a flippin joke that is. I bet if the media had followed through and updated the case till the end the public would have put pressure on the DA and she would not have gotten that baby back!!!

She pleaded the same month she was charged. Was a misdemeanor "injury to a child" instead of felony child abuse (with a sentence of up to 10 years)

She served 30 days, 2 years probation, took some parenting classes and it's July, just a few months later and she has the baby back already.

Wonderful system protecting the children isn't it? Poor poor babies.

I ranted a page or two back, you must have missed it. ;)





I did see your rant and feel exactly the same way. This system is crap, I swear the people working at CPS must be there just to eat there lunch! I mean did they even read the case files? Negligance at it's finest....

Thanks for the link to the idaho court cases where you can search by name. That was very interesting. It looks like several "babies daddys" have been involved with Melissa. ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 28, 2009, 05:06:46 PM
My Hinky Meter busted a spring on page 1  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 28, 2009, 05:15:53 PM
My Hinky Meter busted a spring on page 1  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yup, mine too. The nine thirty at night and the party put mine on full tilt.

Please be okay, little one.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 28, 2009, 07:24:26 PM
 ::MonkeyAngel::

Praying that he he is found before nightfall.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 29, 2009, 12:21:06 AM

Search and rescue scans I-84 for missing Boise boy


Story Updated: Jul 28, 2009 at 7:25 PM MDT
By Jen Wahl
Video

BOISE - They'll go wherever and whenever they're needed.

On Tuesday, Idaho Mountain Search and Rescue teams were deployed to the dangerous sidelines along the I-84 to search for missing eight-year-old Robert Manwill.

Jerry Newland, president of Idaho Mountain Search and Rescue, says it's the behind the scenes work that allows his crews to get out in the field and dig for clues.

"They're searching the sides of the roadways along the Interstate, where Boise Police didn't want people out in the untrained area," Newland said.

The search and rescue teams are all volunteers with expert training in large scale operations like the search for Robert.

Newland is one of the brains behind the new electronic command post. He says staff members track dozens of volunteers who check in and out throughout the day.

Then they enter the information into an electronic database, where they keep track of every community volunteer and the field crews.

Newland says even though Manwill has been missing for four days now, they're still not giving up hope.

Police have set up a special phone line and e-mail address to make it easy for anyone who to contact them with information: (208) 570-6457 - and findrobert@cityofboise.org.

http://www.2news.tv/news/51941952.html

Bless all the angels out searching day after day for this little guy.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 29, 2009, 12:30:29 AM
Search for missing Boise boy, Robert Manwill, will continue Wednesday
Statesman staff - Idaho Statesman
Published: 07/28/09

Boise police say they will resume their grid search for missing 8-year-old Robert Manwill Wednesday.

The family, through Robert's aunt, Trish Burrill, called for continued community support in the search.

"Anyone who has Robert in their heart is invited to wear a green ribbon upside down until Robert is found," she said.

Boise police worked Tuesday to recreate a detailed timeline of what Robert Manwill did on Friday — the day the 8-year-old disappeared and sparked a more than three-day intensive search in his neighborhood around south Vista Boulevard in Southwest Boise.

Police now say the boy was last seen wearing a faded blue T-shirt with a Superman logo, blue jeans and dark tennis shoes. He went missing from his mother's apartment complex near the intersection of Vista and Targee Street — about half a mile from Interstate 84 and even closer to the New York Canal.

Police, FBI agents and more than 100 volunteers have scoured the neighborhood, looking for nooks and crannies where the boy may have hidden — including tiny places where a small boy could tuck himself.

"Act like you're looking for a lost baseball," Officer Will Reimers told a group of volunteer searchers Monday.

"The family has said that he likes to sneak around and crawl in little places. He's an inquisitive little kid," said police spokeswoman Lynn Hightower.

Robert lives with his father in New Plymouth, but was visiting his mother and her family Friday, police said.

Police stopped traffic and searched nearby homes over the weekend. They have interviewed more than 100 registered sex offenders living nearby and chased 100 leads — none of which have panned out.

From an Idaho National Guard helicopter, police scanned the New York Canal and nearby railroad tracks and pools. A pond near the apartment complex was drained and searched.

Police have set up a dedicated tip line and e-mail address: 208-570-6457 and findrobert@cityofboise.org.

The family has thanked the more than 100 volunteers for their aid. But police said Tuesday they no longer need people to offer up their help in the search — although they still want anyone living in the area to take an extra close look at any place in and around their property the boy may be hidden.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/boise/story/848190.html?commentSort=TimeStampDescending&pageNum=1


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 29, 2009, 12:43:16 AM
7 p.m. press conference:

Comments from Deputy Chief Jim Kerns of the Boise Police Department:

Standing with me is Robert Manwill’s family. They are here to show their love for Robert and their support for our efforts to find him. They come from the Treasure Valley, and some from as far away as New Mexico. We thank them for being with us tonight under these very difficult circumstances.

8 year old Robert Manwill is still missing tonight , after an intensive four-day search that has involved… not only dozens of police investigators and support staff… but hundreds of Boise citizens.

This has also been an intensive four days for representatives of our local media.
Before we get into our update on todays search and investigation, I have to take a moment to thank all the members of our local Treasure Valley media….You’ve helped tremendously in our efforts by sharing Robert’s story, sharing with the community our efforts to find him, and for making so many aware that Robert is missing and how everyone can help. We thank media members for e-mailing us questions in advance of this press briefing so we can address them. Thank you for your time and respecting the time of the investigators.

There’s a poster of Robert on the Boise Police web site that citizens are downloading and posting around town. We also have several new images of Robert posted at www.boisepolice.org. As you can see from those pictures, he’s a handsome young man with a shy smile. We have one focus … finding Robert.

Dozens and dozens of volunteers have spent the past three days out in the hot sun searching for any sign of Robert. Dozens more have called the Boise Police Department asking how they can help. And we know that citizens have been checking their garages, their backyards and parked cars searching for Robert.

We have some of the best investigators in the country here in Boise working on this case.
Citizens are calling dispatch thinking they may have seen Robert in a park or on a street. We are responding to every one of those sightings.
We have yet to find Robert. But we’re hopeful.

We’ve had many questions today from media about the nature of the leads… who have we talked to… what can we say about certain people. We understand you have those questions and have the right to ask them. But we want you to understand, it’s the very nature of police investigations, that until the case is concluded… in this case… until we find Robert… specifics and details of this very active, ongoing, priority investigation cannot be released.

What I can say, is after four days of round-the-clock investigation, detectives have a lot of information and are following dozens of leads.

Our system of justice demands we focus on evidence. Our investigative experience tells us we cannot jump to conclusions. Right now this is about finding Robert…where ever he is.

Until Robert is found, every lead in any direction is being worked. Nothing is being discounted, everything is being scrutinized.

Moving onto the search today…

Today, approx. 40 officers continued their house to house search, talking to anyone who may have seen Robert. Specifically, the officers are, not only looking for evidence, but still trying to determine a timeline of Robert’s activities on the day he disappeared.

More than a dozen Registered Sex Offenders were contacted and questioned today. More than 100 Registered Sex Offenders within a 2-mile radius of where Robert disappeared have been questioned at least once by detectives.

Some 120 Volunteers continued their grid search… today focusing on several square blocks…. from Shoshone on the west… the New York canal to the south... Columbus on the east… and to Nez Perce on the north. Some of the areas searched today have been searched once… but investigators felt needed to be looked over again. Volunteers from Idaho Mountain Search and Rescue searched along the Interstate 84 between Broadway and Orchard.

The dedication and commitment of the volunteers… some of whom have been searching in the hot sun for 3 days now… is absolutely inspiring. Here at Boise Police, we had dozens more calls from citizens who wanted to help. To be sure we preserved anything a volunteer might find that may be of interest... and to be sure volunteers were safe and educated on how to conduct a proper and thorough search, the number of volunteers was kept to the size needed for the task at hand.

There have been questions from media as to why the volunteers aren’t searching longer, even when some would like to. First of all, we recognize these volunteers are just that – volunteering their time. They come from all walks of life, are taking time out of their lives and jobs to help us. We also realize what they are searching for….evidence…evidence of a little boy that may indicate where he’s been…where he is… or what’s happened. Should a volunteer come across evidence, that item must be carefully examined, documented and preserved.

Each day, following the volunteer effort, the search has to be evaluated and progress documented. Right now, we have ten Boise Police officers assigned full time to help with the volunteer search. That’s an intensive commitment that we feel in necessary.

We turned to our partners who have expertise conducting volunteer searches… locally that’s the Idaho Mountain Search and Rescue team. We also utilize expertise from Team Adam, from the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, who are here in Boise with us… and to members of the FBI, from their Child Abduction Rapid Deployment team. The FBI “CARD” team as they’re known, bring us national experts in searching for and investigating a missing child. The expertise of all these resources has been called upon by the Boise Police Department to help direct us and manage the search effort.

Any volunteer effort must be organized and managed carefully to be effective.

We thank those leading and directing the search… and especially those who have volunteered your time.

Since Sunday, the volunteers have helped us cover one square mile around the location where Robert disappeared…

We also appreciate all those who wish they could have been out here helping search for Robert. We don’t know what direction this investigation may lead. If we need additional volunteers, we will again turn to our community. Those of you who are helping us with thoughts and prayers… your efforts too are also greatly appreciated.

Also, we’ve had questions on how helpful other agencies have been to Boise PD.

I don’t know how to answer that excect to say – invaluable.

Every local police agency in this valley has – to some degree – dropped what they were working on to help in the search for Robert.

Officers from other local, state and federal agencies are pounding the pavement… doing interviews… making phone calls… doing what they do best… hoping to find this little boy.

The FBI has been tremendous. What citizens may not know is… the FBI is required to offer their services when any person of tender age – that means 12 years old or younger… is reported missing.

In this case, Boise Police called the FBI for their assistance and expertise very early in the investigation. We have a long standing and close partnership here in Boise with our federal colleagues.

But I can tell you, more than two dozen FBI agents and staff are in Boise looking for Robert – not because they have to – but because they want to be here. FBI agents are working side by side with Boise Police and other officers.

And they bring invaluable experience. Sadly, Robert is not the only missing child in the country. FBI resources bring to Boise experience, manpower, and brainpower.

So is Team Adam from the National Center for Missing and Exploiting Children. They too bring national resources, experience, and a genuine desire to help find Robert.

Having said that… getting back to leads… we still believe Robert is in Boise. At this time, we have no evidence he’s out of this area.

We’re still hopeful we’ll find Robert. We have the help of his family, our community, and of numerous law enforcement experts.

Media has also asked… what’s next… what happens if nothing turns up. That’s a fair question. But at this point, we are focusing on today and tomorrow… and we are still hopeful.

Leads continue to come in. Volunteers will continue their search efforts. Robert is very much alive in our thoughts and prayers.

Again – our investigative focus remains in Boise. Leads coming in have been numerous. Investigators are digging into every and all possible directions.

Remember the Find Robert Tip Line - 570-6457 or findrobert@cityofboise.org or Find Robert, PO Box 500, Boise ID 83701.

For tips of information coming from outside the Boise area, please call the toll-free number set up by the National center for Missing and Exploited Children - 1-800-THE LOST.

And thank you again to the citizens of Boise, the Treasure Valley, and other communities in Idaho. Thanks to the media, Robert has become a familiar face, a topic at family dinner tables, and a discussion around workplace water coolers.

We thank you all for your thoughts… prayers… and we will continue to keep the media and public updated as best we can this investigation continues.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 29, 2009, 12:55:16 AM
I have faith in the Boise LE. They are doing a wonderful job trying to find this little guy. They called in all the right people, they are doing a proper organized ground search and they are keeping the media and Robert's community updated daily.

They are keeping the leads close to the chest but I can tell by the professionalism that they are looking at everyone in this child's life and anyone outside of this child's life as the evidence leads them. They are looking at all known sex offenders in the area. They are following up on tips coming in through Robert's tipline.

I pray their professionalism and expertise pays off and Robert is found safely and soon.

Tonight is the fifth night little Robert has not slept in his bed. It breaks my heart.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: burkieandemme on July 29, 2009, 04:19:19 AM
Five nights are five nights too many Robert has been missing!  I am praying he will be found by morning. 

OT...PinkAngel please feel free to call me bande. 8-)
I agree too many children are missing.  This is an epidemic that must stop!!!   


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: burkieandemme on July 29, 2009, 04:49:15 AM
I started candle for Robert.  Every child deserves a candle.  Robert is listed under the group *rob m*.  His link is listed below.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cartfly on July 29, 2009, 04:49:59 AM


Trail of tragedy follows family of missing 8-year-old
In the hunt for Robert Manwill, an anguished family legacy emerges
.

BY PATRICK ORR AND CYNTHIA SEWELL

Published: 07/29/09
 
Photo provided by Boise Police
Robert Manwill


"Anyone who has Robert in their heart is invited to wear a green ribbon upside down until Robert is found," said Trisha Burrill, the boy's aunt, Tuesday.

On the fifth day of an exhaustive search for a missing Boise boy, court documents revealed a family tale of abuse, tragedy and more.

Robert Manwill's mother is on probation for fracturing the skull of Robert's infant half brother, a boy the state removed from her custody.

Robert's mother's boyfriend has been convicted of burglary, battery and possession of drug paraphernalia, and is banned by the courts from being alone with Robert's half sister.

Robert's father, meanwhile, has already lost a son. In 1993, his first wife stabbed their 4-year-old boy in the chest. She spent 10 years in a federal prison after pleading guilty to voluntary manslaughter.

Boise police won't talk about the family or the details contained in the court documents.

The family has declined to comment except for brief statements by Robert's aunt. But police have repeatedly said they have no suspect - or even evidence to believe there is one - in Robert's Friday night disappearance at the mother's Boise Bench apartment, and have no evidence of any foul play.

"We've had questions from the media ... who we have talked to,what can we say about certain people," Boise police Deputy Chief Jim Kerns said Tuesday. "It's the very nature of police investigations that until the case is concluded - in this case, until we find Robert - specifics and details of this very active priority investigation cannot be released."

Police say the family is cooperating fully.

"We have a single focus - that's to find Robert ... he's an 8-year-old little guy and he needs our help," Kerns said. "We remain hopeful we are going to find Robert."

Here's what the court records say:

ROBERT'S MOM

Melissa Scott Jenkins pleaded guilty in March to a misdemeanor charge of injury to a child, after an October 2008 incident that left her infant son with a fractured skull.

According to court records, Jenkins "did willfully inflict" the wound "by striking the child's head on a surface, causing a fracture to the child's skull," on Oct. 19, 2008. She was sentenced to 29 days of work release, fined $75.50 and put on probation for two years.

In February, at least, the child was still in the care of the state Department of Health and Welfare, court documents said.

Jenkins, reached by phone Tuesday, declined comment and directed inquiries to Trisha Burrill, the boy's aunt who has spoken on the family's behalf.

Burrill, flanked by Jenkins and several other family members, addressed a group of reporters Tuesday night while clutching Robert's teddy bear.

"We are a joined family at this time in this crisis," Burrill said. "We are acting as one, with one goal in mind. To bring Robert back."

HER BOYFRIEND

Daniel Edward Ehrlick - Jenkins' boyfriend and the father of her infant son - has served time in Idaho prisons and faced multiple charges.

An April 2008 court document outlining Jenkins' visitation rights with her 2 Ý-year-old daughter states that the girl shall never be left "alone with Danny Ehrlick." The document does not say why.

Ehrlick, too, attended press conferences with the family.

ROBERT'S DAD

Robert Manwill's father, Charles Manwill, has had custody of the boy since January 2008, according to court records.

The records show Jenkins was admitted to the hospital that month for early pregnancy complications and was unable to care for Robert, who has lived with his dad in New Plymouth ever since. Jenkins has visitation rights, and the boy was visiting her the night he disappeared.

Almost 15 years earlier, Manwill was an officer at Fort Polk Military Base in Louisiana, in his early 20s and married to a woman named Silke Fatma Manwill.

In November 1993, according to federal court documents and Louisiana newspaper reports, Silke Manwill "upon sudden quarrel and in the heat of passion" stabbed their 4-year-old son, Michael, in the chest.

She was charged with first-degree murder; that charge was dropped when she pleaded guilty to voluntary manslaughter.

She served 10 years in federal prison and was released in 2002, federal documents show. Her sentence included five more years of supervised release.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/848900.html (http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/848900.html)


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cartfly on July 29, 2009, 04:55:22 AM
I started candle for Robert.  Every child deserves a candle.  Robert is listed under the group *rob m*.  His link is listed below.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m

Thank you Burkieandemme, what a beautiful sentiment!! ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Lovinlife on July 29, 2009, 12:36:48 PM
7/28/09 Nancy Grace Transcripts:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0907/28/ng.01.html

**snipped**
CASAREZ: Let us go straight out to Boise, Idaho. Live with us Natalie Hurst, a reporter for CNN affiliate, KBCI. Give us the basic facts and where are we now.

NATALIE HURST, REPORTER, CNN AFFILIATE KBCI: All right. Well, here`s where we are right now. Still, no sign of Robert anywhere. People are still looking, not giving up hope. It is another glorious night here in the Treasure Valley where the temperatures remain above 90 degrees, so the overnight lows are really not that bad. Hovering around 65 to 67 degrees so you remain hopeful that perhaps he`s wandered off and that he is OK somewhere.

But again, still, no sign. He`s been missing since Friday. Wandered off around 10:00, 11:00 p.m. is the official word from Boise Police. Hasn`t been seen since then.

CASAREZ: Where was he at 10:00 or 11:00 p.m.?

HURST: Well, here`s the deal. Boise Police say that like a typical 8- year-old, he was very inquisitive, always loves to explore. He told his mom, hey, I want to go to a birthday party, it`s Friday night. And mom said, well, no. You can`t. You got to stick around. Somewhere between when mom said no, little Robert Manwill took off. Now whether he went out the door and then, well, managed to just go miles from here or just a half mile, that`s what`s under question right now.

CASAREZ: Very quickly to.

HURST: Where did he go?

CASAREZ: I`m sorry. Go ahead.

HURST: I just was going to say that, you know, where he did go from there? That`s the big question. Little boy, 8-year-old, wants to go a birthday party. And from there, in one knows.

CASAREZ: To Greg Hahn, reporter, "Iowa Statesman," they have looked into registered sex offenders in the area? Very quickly.

GREG HAHN, EDITOR, IDAHO STATESMAN; COVERING STORY (via phone): Yes. They have interviewed about 100 they said this morning. And there -- we had seen about 75 who lived really, you know -- within about a mile of the area. It`s a fairly urban, dense area. It`s not surprising that there were a lot of sex offenders.

CASAREZ: All right. Everyone in the Idaho area, Robert Manwill. Find this beautiful little 8-year-old boy.

Tonight we are on the search for Nancy Grace`s number one fan. Send us an e-mail or iReport telling us why you are Nancy`s number one fan. The best admissions will air on the show and you could win an autographed copy of Nancy`s new novel, "The Eleventh Victim." Plus a chance to win a trip to New York City to meet Nancy. Get your video cameras and e-mails ready and go to CNN.com/Nancygrace.

We`ll be right back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This investigation continues to go in many different directions. And because of the very nature of police investigations right now we`re not prepared to discuss the leads the investigators are taking. But we remain hopeful at this time that we`re going to find Robert.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CASAREZ: Jean Casarez of the legal network "In Session" in for Nancy Grace tonight.

To Natalie Hurst, reporter of CNN affiliate, KBCI, can you describe for us what little Robert was wearing, the last time he was seen?

HURST: Sure, you know, we just got a new description of him. He was last wearing a faded blue t-shirt and just like a typical 8-year-old, get this, he was wearing a Spider-man design blue jeans and dark tennis shoes.

CASAREZ: OK. All right. That`s a very good description. We want to show everybody, we`ve got a map of registered sex offenders in the area.

To Marc Klass, president and founder of KlaasKids Foundation, an Amber Alert could not happen in this case because the requirements were not met. Your thoughts on that?

MARC KLAAS, PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER, KLAASKIDS FOUNDATION (via phone): Well, my thoughts were very simple, Jean. The Amber Alert requirements should be guidelines. They shouldn`t be chiseled in stone.

We`re seeing time after time, cases where Amber Alerts should be activated but because one of the criteria seems not to have been met, they`re not activated. I think what we need to do with Amber Alerts in that country is put that process in the hands of the local authorities, the authorities that we are willing to give guns to protect us but not willing to let -- activate Amber Alerts to bring little children home.

If we were to do that, I think we would not create "cry wolf" scenarios but instead we would probably recover many more children much more quickly than is being done now.

CASAREZ: All right. Marc Klaas, good words.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 29, 2009, 12:41:42 PM
bande, that article just makes me cry for the children. :(

We knew most of it before the paper published it, but to see it laid out like that. ::shakes head:: those poor babies.

Thanks for the candle for Robert. I am off to light one and say a prayer for our little buddy.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 29, 2009, 12:44:45 PM
Mark Klaas is a smart man.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 29, 2009, 01:18:28 PM
My son, when he was 17 was the designated driver and taking his friends home from a party one night. He doesn't drink but likes to make sure his friends that do, get home ok. He is pulled over and he didn't know it but his friend had an open bottle tucked in his jacket.

Because my son was the driver, he also got charged with "open container."

We contacted a lawyer and he said that open container is a hard one to fight because their is little to "plead down" to. It's a traffic ticket but because of the under 21 laws in IL, it's not just a simple fine for young people. He said he would represent my son but odds are my son would still be found "guilty", even without drinking or having knowledge of the booze being in the car. He wanted a three grand retainer. My son wound up choosing the public defender. LOL

He got a $2500 fine that included court costs, lost his license for 3 months, 1 year of court supervision and had to attend 3 months of outpatient "treatment". (which cost him a pretty penny)


She beats an infants head against a table, causes a skull fracture and gets 29 days work release, $75 buck fine and two years probation.


Our court system sucks.

 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 29, 2009, 01:27:31 PM
My son, when he was 17 was the designated driver and taking his friends home from a party one night. He doesn't drink but likes to make sure his friends that do, get home ok. He is pulled over and he didn't know it but his friend had an open bottle tucked in his jacket.

Because my son was the driver, he also got charged with "open container."

We contacted a lawyer and he said that open container is a hard one to fight because their is little to "plead down" to. It's a traffic ticket but because of the under 21 laws in IL, it's not just a simple fine for young people. He said he would represent my son but odds are my son would still be found "guilty", even without drinking or having knowledge of the booze being in the car. He wanted a three grand retainer. My son wound up choosing the public defender. LOL

He got a $2500 fine that included court costs, lost his license for 3 months, 1 year of court supervision and had to attend 3 months of outpatient "treatment". (which cost him a pretty penny)


She beats an infants head against a table, causes a skull fracture and gets 29 days work release, $75 buck fine and two years probation.


Our court system sucks.

 


Yep!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 29, 2009, 01:34:25 PM
So there is three baby daddies:

Charles Manwill for Robert Manwill
Raymond Sohms for little girl (who seems to be in foster care still, per court documents regarding the state seeking child support from both parents)
Daniel Ehrlick Jr for Aidan Ehrlick (skull fracture) who may or not be in foster care still.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: burkieandemme on July 29, 2009, 01:38:16 PM
My son, when he was 17 was the designated driver and taking his friends home from a party one night. He doesn't drink but likes to make sure his friends that do, get home ok. He is pulled over and he didn't know it but his friend had an open bottle tucked in his jacket.

Because my son was the driver, he also got charged with "open container."

We contacted a lawyer and he said that open container is a hard one to fight because their is little to "plead down" to. It's a traffic ticket but because of the under 21 laws in IL, it's not just a simple fine for young people. He said he would represent my son but odds are my son would still be found "guilty", even without drinking or having knowledge of the booze being in the car. He wanted a three grand retainer. My son wound up choosing the public defender. LOL

He got a $2500 fine that included court costs, lost his license for 3 months, 1 year of court supervision and had to attend 3 months of outpatient "treatment". (which cost him a pretty penny)


She beats an infants head against a table, causes a skull fracture and gets 29 days work release, $75 buck fine and two years probation.


Our court system sucks.

 

Yes it does!  Until children are viewed more than just objects for ownership I am afraid this will never change. 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 29, 2009, 02:09:43 PM
O/T from Robert but it shows that little boys do wander off... I am hoping Robert gets such a happy ending.


Missing Boy Found Miles Away On Train
Boy Rides Train 52 Miles Riding Between Train Cars

POSTED: 6:55 am CDT July 29, 2009
UPDATED: 12:23 pm CDT July 29, 2009

POLO, Mo. -- Seven-year-old Colton Smith rode a train more than 50 miles in between train cars, leading his family scrambling to find the missing boy.

Colton has ambition to work on the railroad and plenty of toy trains. However, his family never expected the boy to end up on a train by himself.

When Colton went missing Saturday morning, Colton's mother Heather Smith thought he had gone to a friend's house. When he wasn't found on his block, the mother started to worry.

The family started an all-out search and eventually got the help of police, friends and even K-9 units from a nearby prison. The search team searched the railroad tracks, too.

"And I'm thinking 'Oh no, something tells me he got on one of those trains,'" Heather said.

A few hours later, the family discovered Colton rode on the couplings between to rail cars for 52 miles to Chula, Mo. The train traveled at speeds of up to 45 mph.

"After I found out he rode on the couplings, I was really shocked," Dakota, Colton's older brother, said.

When the train stopped in Chula, sheriff's officials said, Colton walked to a nearby house. The house happened to be owned by a woman who works as a first-responder. Officials said Colton did not require any medical attention.

Heather said she is convinced someone was watching over Colton, and based on how he described his experience, she said she is pretty sure it's the last time Colton will be testing fate on a freight train.

"I asked him, I said, 'Did you have fun?'" Heather said. "And he says, 'No, I hated it. It was scary.'"

Dakota said he doesn't quite get his little brother's obsession with trains, despite his own obsession with skateboarding.

"One day he liked tornadoes and the next day he was just the biggest fan of trains I've ever seen," Dakota said.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: burkieandemme on July 29, 2009, 04:47:27 PM
Hundreds of volunteers sought for Manwill search

02:35 PM MDT on Wednesday, July 29, 2009

KTVB.COM

BOISE - The Boise Police Department is ready to mount a large-scale search for missing Robert Manwill, and is asking for a big push of community volunteers Friday.

Three 3-hour shifts are being set up - and officers are hoping 700-1,000 volunteers will turn out and help scour an area on the Boise Bench near where Manwill went missing.

"The Boise Police Department is asking for volunteers to help us in a one day push to find Robert," BPD Deputy Chief Jim Kerns said. "This will allow the BPD to put in place a massive strucuture to handle the... volunteers"

Kerns also says a better timeline is coming together regaurding Manwill's whereabouts, after more than 5,000 man hours and hundreds of volunteer hours.

Police continue to refuse to answer media questions - and it is unclear why crews are waiting until Friday for the large-scale effort.

Manwill went missing Friday, and was last seen near his Boise apartment complex in the area of Targee and Vista in Boise. Since that time, crews have scoured the area looking for the boy. He is 4' 2" tall, weighs 50 Lbs and has short brown hair.

If you would like to volunteer, you are asked to show up at one of three locations - South Junior High at 805 Shoshone, Garfield Elementary at Broadway Ave. and Boise Ave. or the Hillcrest Branch of the Boise Public Library at Overland Rd. and Orchard St.

The three shifts will begin at 9 a.m., noon and 3 p.m. Volunteers may work more than one shift if they choose. Those showing up are asked to be prepared to walk, and should bring sunscreen and water. Dogs and small children should be left at home. Businesses are being asked to volunteer workers as well.

Kerns says they are not sure how far the search will stretch - that will be determined by the number of volunteers that show up.

"Our top priority is to find Robert, even when other significant events are happening in our city," Kerns said.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/crime/stories/ktvbn-jul2909-manwill_search.8b5d3310.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 29, 2009, 05:50:49 PM
Thanks bande. I posted it on facebook and tweeted the information to all the followers on Nevaeh's twitter and asked them to retweet.

I hope they get a huge turnout and this little one is found.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 29, 2009, 06:10:02 PM
Lov, thanks for the NG transcript. It looks like Nancy will be covering it again tonight. Unless it's 24/7 MJ and Casey Anthony.



Police looking for up to 1,000 volunteers for massive search


Story Updated: Jul 29, 2009 at 2:38 PM MDT
By KBCI Web Staff

BOISE - Authorities are asking the public's help this Friday in an orchestrated massive search for missing 8-year-old Robert Manwill.

Police said at a Wednesday afternoon press conference that they're seeking up to 1,000 volunteers for the search on Friday.

"This is a one day push," said Jim Kerns, Boise Police deputy chief. "The time is now for new volunteers."

Manwill has been missing now for five days. He was last seen on Friday.

"Robert is still missing," Kerns said. "(The effort to find him) is a tremendous committment to the citizens of this city."

The Friday search will be operated at three spots in Boise.

Search locations:

# South Jr. High - 805 Shoshone Street
# Garfield Elementary - 1914 S Broadway Avenue
# Boise Public Library - Hillcrest Branch - 5246 W Overland Road

Volunteer Criteria:

# Must be 18 years old (bring ID)
# No dogs or children
# Shifts are in three-hour blocks (9 a.m., noon, 3 p.m.)
# Bring water, sunscreen and good walking shoes.

http://www.2news.tv/news/local/52013247.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 29, 2009, 06:17:20 PM
Search for missing Boise boy: You can help look for Robert on Friday
Statesman staff - Idaho Statesman
Published: 07/29/09

The Boise police are looking for 500 to 1,000 people — or more — to perform the most exhaustive search yet for Robert Manwill, the 8-year-old boy who disappeared from his mother's Boise apartment complex Friday night.

The massive one-day search will be on Friday, and anyone over 18 can participate:

— Three-hour shifts will start at 9 a.m., noon and 3 p.m. Friday.

— Meet at one on three places: Garfield Elementary, South Junior High and the Hillcrest branch library.

— You must be 18 or older, with a photo ID.

— Bring: Sturdy shoes, one to two quarts of water, sunscreen a hat and sunglasses, a snack and a cell phone, if possible.

— No bikes, strollers or pets.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/849570.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 29, 2009, 07:31:46 PM
JVM will be discussing this case tonight.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 29, 2009, 08:08:28 PM
Nancy Grace is also covering Robert tonight.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 29, 2009, 08:13:28 PM
Family members of missing boy have criminal histories

05:45 PM MDT on Wednesday, July 29, 2009

Ysabel Bilbao/KTVB

BOISE -- The search in Boise for a missing 8-year-old boy continues to expand.

Robert Manwill lives with his father in New Plymouth most of the year but is spending the summer with his mother in Boise.

While we have seen Robert's mother and her boyfriend at many of the news conferences, we know very little about them.

Many of the adults in Robert's life have a criminal history.

Police won't address the family's issues telling us they are focused on finding this missing child.

But court records obtained by NewsChannel 7 say Robert's mother, Melissa Scott Jenkins, was charged with felony injury to a child in October 2008.  She later pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor.

The documents say Jenkins hit her 9-month-old son's head on a surface.

The infant suffered a fractured skull that caused not only physical pain, but mental suffering as well.

The mother's boyfriend, Daniel Edward Ehrlick, is the father of the infant.

Ehrlick has a criminal history including burglary and has served time in prison.

According to sealed documents obtained by the Idaho Statesman, during a visitation hearing for Jenkins' two-and-a-half-year-old daughter, Jenkins stated she did not want her boyfriend, Ehrlick alone with her daugther. The reason she said that was not stated.

[me - was he molesting her? why didn't she want Ehrlick alone with her daughter?]

Robert's father, Charles Manwill, has had custody of Robert since January of 2008.

According to the Statesman, a former wife served 10 years in prison for the voluntary manslaughter of the couple's 4-year-old son, an incident that happened 15 years ago while he was stationed on a military base in Louisiana.

The Statesman uncovered federal court documents saying "upon sudden quarrel and in the heat of passion" Silke Manwill stabbed the child in the chest.

There is discussion and debate on whether this information is relevant since police have not charged anyone with a crime at this time.

Family members have been attending daily news conferences assisting police in the search.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-jul2909-missing_boy_family.8c056ada.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 29, 2009, 08:40:17 PM
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=110415278671

Facebook group for Robert started by someone in Boise.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tina Bee on July 30, 2009, 01:20:39 AM
Are Boise LE taking a good look at the mom and boyfriend?

It just seems really suspicious to me that the mother has priors for child abuse and now her 8 year old son is missing.

On NG someone called in and commented that it's not normal for an 8 year old to be out at 9:30 PM by himself and I agree. Some facts in this case are really suspicious.

I hope this little boy comes home.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cartfly on July 30, 2009, 03:35:16 AM
Are Boise LE taking a good look at the mom and boyfriend?

It just seems really suspicious to me that the mother has priors for child abuse and now her 8 year old son is missing.

On NG someone called in and commented that it's not normal for an 8 year old to be out at 9:30 PM by himself and I agree. Some facts in this case are really suspicious.

I hope this little boy comes home.

I imagine LE wanted to keep the focus on finding Robert and investigate Mom and boyfriend behind the scenes, maybe trying to make sure they do everything by the book to insure a conviction of those responsible....

I don't mean to sound negative but I do not feel like this is going to turn out like we would hope, JMO. I would love to be proved wrong! I can't stop thinking about this beautiful boy and all he has possibly endured in 8 years. This case has really taken a hold of me being a mom of two boys.

Seeing all the dedication and compassion of many of the monkeys here gives me hope that we can make a difference somehow in what this world has come to.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: burkieandemme on July 30, 2009, 03:39:18 AM
Are Boise LE taking a good look at the mom and boyfriend?

It just seems really suspicious to me that the mother has priors for child abuse and now her 8 year old son is missing.

On NG someone called in and commented that it's not normal for an 8 year old to be out at 9:30 PM by himself and I agree. Some facts in this case are really suspicious.

I hope this little boy comes home.
Hello Tina Bee!

I am certain Boise LE are looking very carefully at these two individuals. 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 30, 2009, 10:26:48 AM
BOISE POLICE EXPANDING MANWILL SEARCH
ASKING FOR MORE COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS

• The Boise Police Department is asking for citizens to volunteer in an expanded one-day foot search Friday, July 31st, for missing 8-year old Robert Manwill. Businesses and service organizations, along with individual residents are encouraged to help in this community wide effort, divided into three three-hour periods.

• Volunteers can show up at one of three locations:

 Garfield Elementary (1914 S Broadway Ave)
 South Junior High (805 Shoshone St)
 Hillcrest Branch Library (5246 W Overland Road)

• Citizens can show up at 9:00 a.m, 12:00 p.m. or 3:00 p.m. at any of the locations to work three hour shifts. People can volunteer for more than one shift.

• Volunteers NEED to be 18-years or older, they must bring a photo ID and are asked to bring the following items:

 Sturdy shoes (hiking boots, high top tennis shoes)
 One to two quarts of water
 Sunscreen, a hat and sunglasses
 A snack(s)
 A cell phone (if possible, not mandatory)

• Please DO NOT bring bicycles, strollers or pets.

• Be prepared to walk some distance.

• 500-1,000 volunteers are anticipated, but there is no limit to the number of volunteers.

 

 

Fact sheet, Wednesday, July 29th, 2009, 2:00 p.m.

Find Robert Tip Line: 570-6457 or findrobert@cityofboise.org

Robert is being considered an endangered missing child, and has been since he was reported missing, because of his age and the length of time he’s been away from home.

Robert's Description: Robert Manwill is 8 years old, roughly 4'2, weighing approximately 50 lbs. dark brown hair, brown eyes.

Updated Clothing description: Robert was last known to be wearing a faded blue t-shirt with a Superman design, blue jeans and dark tennis shoes.

Robert was reportedly last seen sometime Friday evening, July 24th, around the Oak Park apartment complex 2800 W. Cherry, near Vista and Targee. Reported missing to Boise Police at 10:11 p.m. Friday night.

So far, no evidence of an abduction.

Robert’s family is continuing to cooperate with investigators. New family members have arrived from around the country for support.

What Can People Do:

Community members are being urged to volunteers for a one day massive search effort, friday, July 31st. See information posted above.

A missing person flyer is available to download at www.boisepolice.org. Citizens are welcome to print and post the flyer in appropriate area.

Family members say Robert is like many 8 year old boys, he's inquisitive and likes to explore. Residents are asked to search their garages, backyards, any area that may be accessible to a child. If something out of the ordinary is found, please call the Find Robert Tip Line: 570-6457.

Anyone with any information about Robert, or who may Find Robert Tip Line: 570-6457 or findrobert@cityofboise.org.

Investigation:

Today, approx. 40 officers continued their house to house search, talking to anyone who may have seen Robert. Specifically, the officers are, not only looking for evidence, but still trying to determine a timeline of Robert’s activities on the day he disappeared.

More than 120 Registered Sex Offenders within a 2-mile radius of where Robert disappeared have been questioned at least once by detectives.

Leads:

The Find Robert Tip Line has become more active. More than 125 leads have been received and are being actively followed. Citizens are encouraged to continue to provide any information, including sightings of Robert beginning Friday morning, July 24th.

These leads from citizens are greatly appreciated and underscore the concern the entire community has for this missing little boy.

There are many questions about the nature of the leads detectives are following. We understand the public has those questions and has the right to ask them. But we hope folks understand, it’s the very nature of police investigations, that until the case is conclude, in this case, until we find Robert… specifics and details of this very active, ongoing, priority investigation cannot be released.

Until Robert is found, every lead in any direction is being worked. Nothing is being discounted, everything is being scrutinized.

Volunteers:

Approx 35 Volunteers continued their grid search today, being coordinated by Boise Police and experts from the Idaho Mountain Search and Rescue. Idaho Mountain Search and Rescue volunteers have been a terrific help to this investigation.

Today, members of the Red Cross were also on scene at the volunteer check in area, at Vista & Targee, providing volunteers water and assistance. They're help too is greatly appreciated by Boise Police.

Thursday, July 30, there will NOT be a volunteer search. Volunteers are being given a day off to recoup, and organizers need the day to prepare for Friday's large effort

Volunteers have been looking for anything that would help identify where Robert is or has been, possibly items of clothing or personal affects. Volunteers are searching only public areas. If they find anything that may be of importance, they contact a police officer, who evaluates it for possible evidence.






Praying Robert is found today.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: sunshine12 on July 30, 2009, 02:00:27 PM
i just wanted to comment that i am very impressed by the LE in this case.  I feel very confident that they are doing the best they can to find Robert.  I wish this was how the police responded in the Lindsey Baum case..

On another note...

I am very disturbed by the abusive family life robert had to endure.  it makes me sick.  there is no way that the first time the mother abused a child was when she fractured his younger brother's skull... i used to work for CPS and i will say that it is very frustrating to try to ensure the welfare of children in their homes when the laws are made to protect the parents rights... i think the mother and her boyfriend need to be given poly's asap..ugh.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: burkieandemme on July 30, 2009, 02:41:38 PM
PinkAngel- Thank you for posting tomorrow search information on Twitter.   I hope they hope everyone in the Boise area volunteers.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: burkieandemme on July 30, 2009, 03:12:16 PM
i just wanted to comment that i am very impressed by the LE in this case.  I feel very confident that they are doing the best they can to find Robert.  I wish this was how the police responded in the Lindsey Baum case..

On another note...

I am very disturbed by the abusive family life robert had to endure.  it makes me sick.  there is no way that the first time the mother abused a child was when she fractured his younger brother's skull... i used to work for CPS and i will say that it is very frustrating to try to ensure the welfare of children in their homes when the laws are made to protect the parents rights... i think the mother and her boyfriend need to be given poly's asap..ugh.
Are Boise LE taking a good look at the mom and boyfriend?

It just seems really suspicious to me that the mother has priors for child abuse and now her 8 year old son is missing.

On NG someone called in and commented that it's not normal for an 8 year old to be out at 9:30 PM by himself and I agree. Some facts in this case are really suspicious.

I hope this little boy comes home.

I imagine LE wanted to keep the focus on finding Robert and investigate Mom and boyfriend behind the scenes, maybe trying to make sure they do everything by the book to insure a conviction of those responsible....

I don't mean to sound negative but I do not feel like this is going to turn out like we would hope, JMO. I would love to be proved wrong! I can't stop thinking about this beautiful boy and all he has possibly endured in 8 years. This case has really taken a hold of me being a mom of two boys.

Seeing all the dedication and compassion of many of the monkeys here gives me hope that we can make a difference somehow in what this world has come to.
Hello Cartfly!  I agree all the dedication and compassion that is shown by every monkeys is insipiring. 



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: burkieandemme on July 30, 2009, 03:32:39 PM
I am so sorry for mess up the quote boxes.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Sunshine 12-I agree, I am glad LE is keeping the focus on finding Robert.  When the focus is on an 8-year old missing little boy, everystone will be unturned to find him.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 30, 2009, 06:13:05 PM
I am so sorry for mess up the quote boxes.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Sunshine 12-I agree, I am glad LE is keeping the focus on finding Robert.  When the focus is on an 8-year old missing little boy, everystone will be unturned to find him.

I agree.
I see all the comments on the Idaho newspaper sites about how BPD is handling this case. Why have the parents not been given a polygraph, why are they not looking at the parents? That the parents know where Robert is...etc.

Trust me. The police are looking HARD at everyone in young Robert's life. They may very well have taken or refused polygraph tests. They may very well be suspects number one BUT the BPD is not letting the public know and saying "no comment" when it's asked questions about the family.

They don't want to talk about the parents because of the fact that talking about the parents takes the public focus off of Robert (where it needs to be) and puts it on the parents. (which does nothing to help FIND Robert.)

If they were to arrest the parents or whoever they may or may not suspect BEFORE Robert is found, the chances of finding Robert then become even smaller. Once a suspect lawyers up, they are not telling what may or may not have happened to Robert.

If they let the suspect roam and give them a sense of security, while keeping them under a watchful eye and ear...they may slip up and give a clue to what happened or where Robert may be.

just my opinion


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 30, 2009, 07:45:01 PM
Missing boy's dad grateful for all the public support

05:13 PM MDT on Thursday, July 30, 2009

Scott Evans/KTVB

Deren Martinez-KTVB

Charles Manwill thanked the public, law enforcement and the National Guard for all their help in trying to find his son Robert.

BOISE -- The National Guard is now involved in the search for 8-year-old Robert Manwill who has been missing for six days.

And for the first time today Robert’s father speaks out publically about the search for his son.

"My heart goes out to the community for all the help we have received in the search for my lost son. I also want to thank the Boise Police Department for their tireless effort, the FBI and my brothers in the National Guard, they're family men, family women, they want to bring this boy home, that all that matters to us at this point," said Charles Manwill, Robert’s father.

Manwill went missing Friday, and was last seen near his Boise apartment complex in the area of Targee and Vista Avenue in Boise. Since that time, crews have scoured the area looking for the boy. He is 4-foot-2, weighs 50 pounds, and has short brown hair.

Today is the first day since the search began that citizens didn't go out and search, but that doesn't mean people weren't out searching.

Between last night and today, 135 men and women from the Idaho National Guard and the Idaho Bureau of Homeland Security searched for Robert.

Lt. Col. Tim Narsano with the Idaho National Guard says they add a skill set that the general public doesn't necessarily have.

We’re also told that 75 police officers are going to be leading Friday's massive search. That’s on top of the other officers and detectives working behind the scenes.

Here are the details of Friday's public search for Robert:

- Three 3-hour shifts are being set up - and officers are hoping 700 to 1,000 volunteers will turn out and help scour an area on the Boise Bench near where Robert went missing.

- If you would like to volunteer, you are asked to show up at one of three locations - South Junior High at 805 Shoshone, Garfield Elementary at Broadway and Boise avenues or the Hillcrest Branch of the Boise Public Library at Overland Road and Orchard Street.

- You must be 18 years or older and have ID to prove it.  Also, this is a search by foot, so they're asking you wear sturdy shoes, bring water and sunscreen. Police ask that you not bring bicycles, strollers or pets.

- The three shifts will begin at 9 a.m., noon and 3 p.m. Volunteers may work more than one shift if they choose. Those showing up are asked to be prepared to walk, and should bring sunscreen and water. Dogs and small children should be left at home. Businesses are being asked to volunteer workers as well.

Police are not sure how far the search will stretch - that will be determined by the number of volunteers that show up.

Ribbons for Robert

KTVB

An effort is underway to make green ribbons for all the people helping in the search for Robert Manwill.

Meanwhile, one Boise woman is taking on a large effort as well.

A couple of days ago we talked to Devon Jacobson, who's been making green ribbons to show support for Robert Manwill.

Today, she's trying to make more ribbons for all the volunteers who will help look for the boy Friday.

"My new goal is to have at least a thousand by tomorrow morning when volunteers start to show up for this big, massive search. I mean if somebody wants to come down here with me and sit on a blanket and tie ribbons and put pins on that would be great as well," said Jacobson.

Jacobson says she needs more supplies and more help.

She plans on being at Targee and Vista Friday with all the ribbons made.


http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-jul3009-manwill_dad.91078c8c.html



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 30, 2009, 07:47:09 PM
New Plymouth holds out hope Robert will come home

07/30/2009 05:08 PM MDT

Ysabel Bilbao/KTVB

KTVB

Robert Manwill attended class at New Plymouth Elementary School.

NEW PLYMOUTH -- Robert Manwill had just completed the second grade at New Plymouth Elementary School.

NewsChannel 7 talked to Robert's teacher today about the 8-year-old boy that so many people are desperately trying to find.

Christy Morales has been in education for 17 years and never had one of her students go missing.

She is now active in helping with the efforts to find Robert.

"You open up a dumpster and you see a tennis shoe or you go, we were up by the railroad tracks and we saw blankets and stuff and it's a heart stop moment when you think oh, you know he could be there or something could be there," said Morales.

She didn't want to finish her sentence there because Mrs. Morales, as she was known to Robert and the rest of his class, is hopeful search efforts will find the child.

Robert had only been at the school for a year after recently moving in with his father.

Morales describes Robert has a kind, loving child who was smart.

A mother herself, she worries about being alone and vulnerable, and hopes he would be able to defend himself in a tough situation.

"My kids say why are you sighing, and I am like, 'I am just thinking about Robert and praying for Robert and wondering where he is,'" said Morales. "No matter how it looks, miracles can happen, so we are hopeful."

She remains hopeful that Robert will walk into his 3rd grade classroom next month.

The school's principal along with New Plymouth's mayor are calling the town to action.

They are asking anyone over 18 to meet at the elementary school at 1:15 p.m. Friday.

School busses and others willing to carpool will then travel to Boise to help with the massive search for Robert.

The goal from this small town of 1,400 people is to have 200 volunteers.
http://www.ktvb.com/news/canyoncounty/ktvbn-jul3009-new_plymouth.91167eb1.html





Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cookie on July 30, 2009, 10:06:26 PM
so sad......


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on July 30, 2009, 10:11:04 PM
Pink Let us and everyone Pray for Robert

This poor child has a family of  ::MonkeyEek:: issues and horrible pasts ..

May he not become another boy/male/child lost within the Media ..like Adji.
Missing Boys are not the same in the eye of Media, it is sad but true.

Let him be found quickly and returned Safely. 
I am praying for him. Little guy has been through enough in 8 yrs.

 :smt049


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 30, 2009, 11:04:04 PM
Massive Volunteer Search For 8-Year Old Boy

Posted: July 30, 2009 07:22 PM

Updated: July 30, 2009 07:22 PM

For six days search crews have combed Boise streets looking for Robert Manwill and tonight, on the eve of an unprecedented volunteer effort, he remains missing.

75 police officers will put their efforts to coordinate 3 massive volunteer search groups.

Police from all over the Treasure Valley are asking anyone and everyone to dedicate their time tomorrow to find the missing 8-year old boy.

Taking a deep breath and fighting back tears, Robert's father thanked everyone for helping the family look for his son.

"My heart goes out to the community for all the help and support we've received and the search for my lost son," said Robert's father Charles Manwill.

As Robert's family stood strong, they said they don't want the public to concentrate on the family's troubled past. Instead they should have only one thing on their minds.

"We do not know why people think any of this, matters. We are asking everyone to stay focused on our target on hand and that's to bring Robert home," said Robert's Aunt Trisha Burrill.

Even the Boise Police Department spoke about their dedication in finding Robert.

Detectives are working around the clock, trying to follow more than 200 leads.

That's why they're asking everyone to take the search seriously.

"This investigation is not a TV show, it's not an episode of Law & Order that ends in 60 minutes," said the Boise Police Deputy Chief Jim Kerns.

On Friday the effort will intensify as police will get ready to coordinate one of the biggest searches they've had in a while.

"Wear a green ribbon, wear a green shirt to show support that we're trying to find Robert," said Burrill.

Volunteers for Friday's search can show up at any of 3 different locations: Garfield Elementary, South Junior High School, or the Hillcrest Library.

They can start showing up from 9am, Noon, or 3 in the afternoon.

http://www.kivitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10822942


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 30, 2009, 11:07:07 PM
Idaho National Guard Join Search For Missing Boy

BOISE, IDAHO--

Members of the Idaho National Guard and Bureau of Homeland Security map out their locations in the search of missing 8-year-old Robert Manwill. Guardsmen and women canvassed remote areas looking for clues that could possible lead them to Robert.

"We have personnel out there that are scouts, they are trained in looking for things that the untrained eye may not see", says Lt. Col. Tim Marsano.

They checked fields and garbage bins hoping to find a trace of the young boy missing now for 6 days.

"We're looking for items of interest that may not have been uncovered", Marsano said.

At the day six briefing Police and Guardsmen would not comment on what lead them to begin looking in this direction but National Guard officials say they are equipped for the job and can provide more resources in the quest to find the 8-year-old boy who vanished from home.

"We know that area, we work out there, we drive those roads everyday do we can see things maybe the average person couldn't", says Marsano.

The Idaho National Guard says they will be apart of the search efforts for as long as they are needed.

http://www.kivitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10822929


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 30, 2009, 11:09:39 PM
CANVAS INSTRUCTIONS FOR CITIZEN VOLUNTEERS Friday, July 31st

The Boise Police Department and local law enforcement is grateful for your willingness to volunteer in assisting us with an area canvas. The purpose of this canvas is to locate Robert Manwill.

Instructions:

1 - Each of you will be assigned to a search team led by a police officer, sheriff deputy or probation officer. It is imperative you follow the direction of your officer.

2- You will only search public areas, ie, roadways, parks, sidewalks, canal banks, etc.

3- You will not enter private property.

4- We are specifically looking for Robert Manwill or items that may lead to his location. Items of clothing or personal effects especially.

5- When you locate something you believe may be of interest, you are to notify the officer leading your team. Please do not touch or otherwise disturb the item.

6- If you are uncertain how to proceed, ask for direction from your team officer.

7- You will be issued an orange safety vest to be worn while searching,.

8- It is imperative you sign in and sign out during the period of time you are on a search team. This is to be accomplished at the location you registered. You will surrender your orange vest at that time.

9- You may participate in more than one search period, but this will still require you to sign in again, and be reassigned to a search team and reissued a safety vest.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 30, 2009, 11:12:27 PM
Comments from Deputy Chief Jim Kerns of the Boise Police Department, 2:00 p.m., Thursday, July 30th media briefing:

Good afternoon, I’m Deputy Chief of Police Jim Kerns from the Boise Police Department.

With me today, again, is Robert’s family. We appreciate their continued support. Robert’s picture is posted around our police department and our internal search command centers. Robert continues to inspire us all, and again, that’s why we’re here today, to update our efforts to find Robert Manwill.

Also with me today is Lt. Colonel Tim Marsano of the Idaho National Guard.

First today, let me update you on our public search.

Citizen volunteers took the day off from searching today, but we had more than 60 volunteers from the Idaho National Guard out searching today, and more than 50 Guard volunteers last night.

These guardsmen have not been officially activated, they are volunteering their time and their expertise. Last night and today they’ve been searching outlaying areas looking for any sign of Robert. As you can imagine, they work with military precision and efficiency. We’re happy to have the Idaho National Guard as part of our public search team. We’ll hear from Lt. Colonel Marsano in a few moments.

Let me also say, and I want to make this very understandable to media and the public.

The public search that includes hundreds of volunteers is very visible… but I assure you, only the tip of the iceburg of our efforts to find Robert.

This investigation is not a TV show, not a episode of Law and Order that ends in 60-minutes, not meant for public entertainment.

This is an intensive investigation that is taking place in dozens of locations at any given time, involving dozens and dozens of some of the best local, state, and federal investigators, who do their work without TV cameras and microphones in front of them.

In fact, just the opposite. Because of the very nature of police investigations, so leads aren’t compromised, so detectives can talk to people without the glare of TV cameras, detectives are working around the clock and following the more than 200 leads that have come in through our Find Robert Tip Line. The investigators focus is finding Robert.

Again, I have to thank the FBI, our local supervisory agent Jon Morton, his boss Scott Cruse, the local federal agents who we work with almost every day, to the extensive resources brought into Boise from literally all over the country.

Those faces and resources are something you won’t see on TV. But they’re working tirelessly. I know I speak for, not only the men and women of the Boise Police Department, but all the citizens of Boise, when I tell these people who have come to our city under the most stressful of circumstances, thank you for being here to help us find this little boy.

Now more on tomorrow’s volunteer search…

The volunteers we’ve had up to this time have done amazing work. They’ve completed an intense search of approx. one-mile of public areas surrounding the apartment complex where Robert was last seen.

It’s time in the investigation to broaden out.

Our call is for anyone and everyone in the community who can work, even for a three-hour shift, to come out and help tomorrow.

Something else I have to make very clear.

Any volunteer search effort must be organized to be effective. The way the search is set up tomorrow, volunteers will come to one of three locations. They’ll be assigned in groups and each group will have a police officer leading and assisting them.

Safety of our citizens is very important. Please take note of the requirements for searchers, they’re posted at www.boisepolice.org. Wear proper clothing, shoes, hats and sunscreen. Bring water. Don’t bring pets and small children, you must be over 18 and bring your legal ID. Be prepared to walk a significant distance.

Volunteers from our local Red Cross as well as safety officers from the Boise Fire Department will be assisting with volunteer safety, as will Idaho Mountain Search and Rescue crews.

75 officers will be assigned tomorrow JUST to this massive volunteer search. Again – this does not include the number of officers who will continue following investigative leads, this is 75 officers just for the volunteer search.

And they come from all over the valley, Boise Police, Meridian, Garden City, and Idaho State Police, as well as Ada County Sheriff’s Deputies.

Planning for this search has been extensive. In advance, we ask people’s patience. It may take awhile to get all the volunteers who show up checked-in, but any wait we have will only be because so many in our community want to help.

Robert has found his way into all our hearts.

With that, let me introduce Lt. Colonel Tim Marsano of the Idaho National Guard.

Tim is in uniform but he represents dozens of volunteers from the guard today who, while not activated or on duty, gave their time to the search for finding Robert – Tim…

Lt. Col. Tim Marsano comments

Let me again thank the family members of Robert Manwill who have continued to stand with us, Robert’s Aunt, Trish Burrill.

Trish’s comments.

Robert’s father speaks (father’s wife, Robert’s step mom was standing behind him)

Finally – let me reiterate something I hope you can see is very clear.

This is the middle of day- six that Robert has been missing. Yet the search for him is as active and intense today as it was in the hours after the initial report was made.

We ask our community to keep Robert in your prayers, keep the investigators, who are sacrificing time with their own families, in your prayers, and give us all the strength to keep looking until we find this little boy.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cartfly on July 30, 2009, 11:37:44 PM
I came across this in a comment section at the Boise Idaho Statesman someone left and I really liked it. I thought I would share:

Posted by HolPollol on July 30 10:11 AM

"I will go and join the search for Robert. If later we find that one of these family members were involved, I will search for them, too..."

[url] http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/850011.html?pageNum=5&&&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container/url]


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 12:13:32 AM
Pink Let us and everyone Pray for Robert

This poor child has a family of  ::MonkeyEek:: issues and horrible pasts ..

May he not become another boy/male/child lost within the Media ..like Adji.
Missing Boys are not the same in the eye of Media, it is sad but true.

Let him be found quickly and returned Safely. 
I am praying for him. Little guy has been through enough in 8 yrs.

 :smt049

Amen, Deenie.

Little boys are rarely afforded the media attention little girls are and if you are a child of color...you are afforded even less. It's not right or fair.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m

Lighting a candle and saying a prayer for Robert and for all the searchers out there looking for him overnight and all day tomorrow.

Let this little one be found.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 01:30:55 AM
Police search home of Manwill's mother

11:15 PM MDT on Thursday, July 30, 2009

KTVB

A crime lab worker loads items taken from the home of Robert Manwill's mother into a van late Thursday night.

BOISE - Police investigators are currently searching the apartment of the mother of a boy who went missing nearly a week ago.

Officers began searching the home of Robert's Manwill's mother - Melissa Scott Jenkins - just after 8 p.m. Thursday night.

Boise Police spokesperson Lynn Hightower was tight-lipped, and would only say the search is "another step in the investigation."

Police tape has been strung up around the area, and residents are being told police may be in the area for some time.

Reporter Scott Evans says that cabinets and drawers were being taken from the home, among other items. A woman with "crime lab" on her uniform was seen removing boxes of items from the home while wearing gloves - and loading the boxes into a van on scene.

Ada County Dispatchers initially said there was nothing going on at the apartment complex, but our crews on the scene confirmed otherwise.

A large-scale search is scheduled to begin at 9 a.m. Friday, and is will still go forward according to Hightower. Details here. Police say they hope these developments will not tamp down support for the search, and they say the search is still an important part of finding Manwill.

Police have not identified anyone as a suspect in the case, nor have they given any indication of wrongdoing.

This is a breaking news story and will be updated.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-jul2909-manwill_home.92506db4.html



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 01:48:43 AM
Police searching Manwill's mom's apartment
Statesman staff - Idaho Statesman
Published: 07/30/09

Late Thursday night, Boise police blocked off areas around the apartment complex on Cherry Lane off Vista Avenue where Robert Manwill's mother, Melissa Scott Jenkins, lives. Police would not comment on the nature of the investigation, but about a dozen officers, including K-9s, were searching the apartment.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/851381.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 02:52:50 AM
Police search home of Manwill's mother

12:42 AM MDT on Friday, July 31, 2009

BOISE - Police investigators are currently searching the apartment of the mother of a boy who went missing nearly a week ago.

Officers began searching the home of Robert's Manwill's mother - Melissa Scott Jenkins - just after 8 p.m. Thursday night.

Boise Police spokesperson Lynn Hightower was tight-lipped, and would only say the search is "another step in the investigation."

Police tape has been strung up around the area, and residents are being told police may be in the area for some time.

Reporter Scott Evans says that cabinets and drawers were being taken from the home, among other items. A woman with "crime lab" on her uniform was seen removing boxes of items from the home while wearing gloves - and loading the boxes into a van on scene.

Canine dogs were also seen at the complex.

A vehicle was also towed from the scene just after 12:30 a.m. Friday morning. The car was removed in coordination with police and FBI officials.


A large-scale search is scheduled to begin at 9 a.m. Friday, and is will still go forward according to Hightower. Details here.

Police say they hope these developments will not tamp down support for the search, and they say the search is still an important part of finding Manwill.

Police have not identified anyone as a suspect in the case, nor have they given any indication of wrongdoing.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-jul2909-manwill_home.92506db4.html



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 02:54:36 AM
video of scene:
http://www.ktvb.com/video/index.html?nvid=385213


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cartfly on July 31, 2009, 03:00:54 AM
Police searching Manwill's mom's apartment
Statesman staff - Idaho Statesman
Published: 07/30/09

Late Thursday night, Boise police blocked off areas around the apartment complex on Cherry Lane off Vista Avenue where Robert Manwill's mother, Melissa Scott Jenkins, lives. Police would not comment on the nature of the investigation, but about a dozen officers, including K-9s, were searching the apartment.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/851381.html
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
Thanks Pink!!
Whoa, I wish this had been done earlier in the week. But sounds like something major is going on considering the "time of night" they went in to do this.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 03:06:25 AM
Police search boy’s mother’s apartment

Bryan Dooley
bdooley@idahopress.com
Updated 34 minutes ago

BOISE — Boise police took new action in the search for missing 8-year-old Robert Manwill late Thursday night by searching the boy's mother's apartment, according to witnesses at the scene.

Police tape blocked off the apartment complex near the intersection of West Cherry Lane and Shoshone Street.

Neighbors said they saw investigators removing items from the apartment of Melissa Scott Jenkins. The boy had been staying at Jenkins' apartment before he went missing Friday evening, police said.


Stephanie Whittington, who lives in the complex, said officers had been coming downstairs carrying paper bags.

"I don't know what was in them," she said.

Emilee Jones, who was at the scene, said the investigators were dressed in sterile-type clothing — hair nets, gloves and booties — and carried boxes and bags. She added that some carried blankets upstairs toward Jenkins' apartment.

Just before midnight, a group of investigators from the Boise Police Department and the FBI remained at the scene. The Idaho Statesman reported earlier this week that Jenkins is on probation for fracturing the skull of the boy's infant half brother, who was removed from her custody by the state.

Boise police officials have stressed that they have no suspects and provided few details about what took place Thursday night.

"There's another investigative step being taken tonight," spokeswoman Lynn Hightower said.

Hightower said she could not provide any further information, but that the massive volunteer search effort planned for today is still scheduled to take place.

Officials have asked anyone who is able to help search for Manwill today.

http://www.idahopress.com/news/?2009-07-31-Search-for-missing-boy-continues


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 03:13:17 AM
Police search Manwill's mom's apartment late Thursday night
Friday's search will go on as planned, police say
Statesman staff - Idaho Statesman
Published: 07/31/09

A law enforcement officer carries two paper bags from the apartment of Melissa Scott Jenkins, the mother of missing 8-year-old Robert Manwill, to a van during a search of Jenkins' apartment late Thursday night.
 
A search dog named "Kiwi" searches the grounds of the Oak Park Village Apartments late Thursday night, where where 8-year-old Robert Manwill went missing last week. The handlers of "Kiwi" wouldn't answer questions about their activities at the complex.

Boise police and other law enforcement officials searched the apartment where 8-year-old Robert Manwill’s mother, Melissa Scott Jenkins, lives late Thursday night.

Police said they could not comment on the nature of the investigation, but about a dozen officers, including K-9s, were searching the apartment off Vista Avenue and the surrounding area. Forensic investigators also were involved.

The late-night investigation won’t affect the massive search planned for Friday, police officials said.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/851381.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 03:17:07 AM
Police searching Manwill's mom's apartment
Statesman staff - Idaho Statesman
Published: 07/30/09

Late Thursday night, Boise police blocked off areas around the apartment complex on Cherry Lane off Vista Avenue where Robert Manwill's mother, Melissa Scott Jenkins, lives. Police would not comment on the nature of the investigation, but about a dozen officers, including K-9s, were searching the apartment.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/851381.html
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
Thanks Pink!!
Whoa, I wish this had been done earlier in the week. But sounds like something major is going on considering the "time of night" they went in to do this.

I am sure they looked casually through the house the first night. In order to do a forensic search and remove stuff, they need probable cause and they need a warrant. They must have both now.

They took away a vehicle too.

I am sure doing it this time of night avoids some of the media and the looky loos.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 10:11:41 AM
Story Updated: Jul 31, 2009 at 5:50 AM MDT
By Stephanie Hale

BOISE – Police thoroughly searched the apartment complex where Robert Manwill disappeared, putting up police tape and removing items from his home.

Just after 8 p.m. on Thursday, detectives started searching the complex; including the apartment belonging to Robert’s mom.

Police would not say what they were searching for, what they removed, or why the search is happening now. However, it has been confirmed that K-9 units were brought in to help with the investigation.

The CBS 2 crew on scene at the time took video in which you can see that black lights were used to search at least one area and a red car was removed from the complex.

I was thinking, wow, something big is happening,” said Tammi Jackson, a neighbor at the complex. “…all the residents here have been really involved in what’s been going on because they’ve been inspecting our homes and asking questions.”

Residents were able to come and go from the complex, but had to show their I-D’s to officers.

Police would not say where Robert’s family is right now or if anyone was home at the time of the search.

Officials continue to stress the massive search today is still on, as scheduled, and that these latest developments are part of the on-going investigation to find Robert.

http://www.2news.tv/news/52179147.html

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Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 10:35:53 AM
KBOI is reporting live from the Jr. High search staging area. (1 of 3) It's 8:30 am and already their looks to be about 100 people lining up to search at 9:00. He said a steady stream of new cars are arriving. He talked to one gentleman that was in Boise on vacation and heard about it on the news and decided to help search today.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 11:07:03 AM
500 searchers at Hillcrest location alone, they were sending new people arriving there over to the Jr. High location. No problem finding the 1000 searchers says the reporter from KBOI.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 11:09:58 AM
Pink - thanks for the updates.

Unfortunatly this case seems to be heading in the direction that I suspected from the beginning    ::MonkeyWaa:: 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 11:26:40 AM
Pink - thanks for the updates.

Unfortunatly this case seems to be heading in the direction that I suspected from the beginning    ::MonkeyWaa:: 


::nods:: me too.
It breaks my heart. I so wanted to be wrong!

I am still holding out hope and praying that we could all be wrong. I will until he is found.

Robert needs to be found though, no matter what the outcome.

Bless this community for showing up for this little guy.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 11:36:35 AM
Massive search for missing Boise boy begins Friday morning; hundreds volunteer
Statesman staff - Idaho Statesman
Published: 07/31/09

Volunteers are heading out from three staging areas Friday morning for what police expect to be an unprecedented search for a missing Boise boy.

Eight-year-old Robert Manwill disappeared last Friday night from the area around his mother's apartment off Vista Avenue and Targee Street.

Area police, the FBI and more than 100 volunteers have searched throughout the week.

Volunteers are leaving South Junior High in groups of 20 or 30 — each group gets an officer to lead it and each individual has been issued a vest, a wristband, a flier with information and a map. They are processing people very smoothly.

At least 200 people came to both South and Garfield Elementary. Search organizers are encouraging people who plan to help out throughout the day to dress for the heat and bring water. The temperature in Boise is expected to reach about 96 degrees Friday, according to the National Weather Service.

Sgt. Greg Oster, the officer in charge at Garfield, told the crowd there was no way officers could do this without their help. He thanked them for following the ground rules (no one under 18, no dogs, no strollers).

The reason they're being adamant about the age requirement, he said, was that they didn't want to put a child in the position of finding evidence that something bad had happened.

A family member called for a prayer at Garfield and a volunteer from a church led it.

The groups are being told that they are only searching public areas — alleys, streets, parks — not private property. They are specifically looking for Robert or any items that could lead to his location — such as clothing or personal effects.

At South, family members were making green ribbons and handing them out.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/235/story/851666.html?storylink=omni_popular




Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 12:05:49 PM
Well over 1000 people showed up, so many that they didn't have enough team leaders. Asking people to come back for the noon or three p.m. shift.

10:03 KBOI Update


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 12:31:35 PM

Too many volunteers at first search session

Story Updated: Jul 31, 2009 at 9:44 AM MDT
By KBCI Web Staff

BOISE - Authorities are asking the public's help in a massive search for missing 8-year-old Robert Manwill on Friday.

On Friday morning, too many volunteers showed up to the Hillcrest and Garfield Elementary locations. They're being asked by police to come back at noon to help look.

"This is a one day push," said Jim Kerns, Boise Police deputy chief. "The time is now for new volunteers."

Manwill has been missing now for five days. He was last seen on Friday.

"Robert is still missing," Kerns said. "(The effort to find him) is a tremendous commitment to the citizens of this city."

http://www.2news.tv/news/52013247.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 01:13:58 PM

Press conference scheduled at noon for missing Boise boy


Story Updated: Jul 31, 2009 at 10:52 AM MDT
By KBCI Web Staff
BOISE - Authorities are holding a press conference at noon today about the missing 8-year-old Boise boy.

Police called are urging the media to attend the news conference. They did not elaborate about what details will be discussed.

Robert Manwill, 8, has been missing for a week now.

The press conference will be streamed live on our website 2news.tv

Stay tuned for details.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 01:19:39 PM
Vista neighbors join in search for Robert Manwill in Boise
As Boise police launch a huge search, residents and businesses pitch in to help find the missing 8-year-old.
BY BETHANN STEWART - bstewart@idahostatesman.com
Copyright: © 2009 Idaho Statesman
Published: 07/31/09

After a community picnic on Saturday night, Vista neighbors went to the police roadblock on Vista Avenue to see if they could help search for 8-year-old Robert Manwill, who had been missing since the night before.

In the week since, local businesses also have jumped in to help, sending lunches and water to Boise police officers, FBI agents and volunteers. Cutright Care Lawn Service has sent out fliers of the missing boy with its bills, and Domino's pizza delivery folks are handing out fliers with pizzas, said neighborhood activist Kim Bentley, who has lived in the Vista neighborhood for 15 years.

"It's bringing the community together," Bentley said. "People who wouldn't normally talk to a police officer - it's brought citizens and police together."

Vista neighbors will join with volunteers from as far away as New Plymouth on Friday as the Boise Police Department launches a search in which at least 1,000 volunteers will converge on the neighborhood on the Boise Bench. The search could be the biggest in the department's history.

Neighbors initially were shocked to hear that Manwill was missing because crime has been low in the last few years, said Boise police Officer Lance Nickerson, the neighborhood contact officer.

"I've worked this neighborhood for more than 10 years, and I still think it's a great place to live," he said.

Before Manwill went missing, children, including his son Cayden Wells, 5, played in the street together, said Travis Wells, who has lived in the neighborhood for two months after moving from Pocatello. "For something like this to happen, it's scary. Now there are no kids in the street."

Bentley has been out four or five times looking for the boy since he was reported missing. On a recent morning around 7, she and a friend walked over to a storage area to check it out.

"A man came out and asked us what we were doing," she said. "We told him we were looking for Robert. He let us go wherever we wanted."

http://www.idahostatesman.com/localnews/story/851447.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 01:27:58 PM
The search for Robert: Police call noon press conference
Statesman staff - Idaho Statesman
Published: 07/31/09

Katherine Jones / Idaho Statesman
Hundreds of people wait in line Friday morning to register at South Junior High School to join a massive, public search for missing 8-year-old Boise boy Robert Manwill.


10:49 a.m.

Boise police have moved up a press conference to noon from 2 p.m., urging media to attend.

IdahoStatesman.com will have breaking news and video from the event.

10:30 a.m.

Boise police are closing off the portion of Oak Park Village apartments where Robert Manwill's mother lives.

Detectives and crime scene investigators placed cones to block the driveway and are hanging crime scene tape to block off the area.

Police searched the apartment and impounded at least one vehicle Thursday night.




Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 01:30:33 PM
Young and old...that line of people is so heartwarming. So many people caring about this little guy.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: burkieandemme on July 31, 2009, 01:39:48 PM
The search for Robert: Police call noon press conference
Statesman staff - Idaho Statesman
Published: 07/31/09

10:49 a.m.

Boise police have moved up a press conference to noon from 2 p.m., urging media to attend.

IdahoStatesman.com will have breaking news and video from the event.

10:30 a.m.

Boise police are closing off the portion of Oak Park Village apartments where Robert Manwill's mother lives.

Detectives and crime scene investigators placed cones to block the driveway and are hanging crime scene tape to block off the area.

Police searched the apartment and impounded at least one vehicle Thursday night.

9:31 a.m.

Hundreds of people lined up at the Hillcrest branch library Friday morning.

There were so many people, officials were asking for some to head to the other two search staging areas — where hundreds of others had already appeared.

Mayor Dave Bieter walked down the line, shaking hands and t hanking people for volunteering.

"We hoped for a good turnout like this but this is amazing," he told them. "This says a lot about our community."

Bieter said people have been taking time off from work to show up.

"It's just great. I've heard of people coming from just as far away as Oregon," he said. "There are so many things in this situation that you can't effect. It's nice to see people doing what we can. That's what makes Boise a great place to live."

9 a.m.

Volunteers are heading out from three staging areas Friday morning for what police expect to be an unprecedented search for a missing Boise boy.

Eight-year-old Robert Manwill disappeared last Friday night from the area around his mother's apartment off Vista Avenue and Targee Street.

Area police, the FBI and more than 100 volunteers have searched throughout the week.

Volunteers are leaving South Junior High in groups of 20 or 30 — each group gets an officer to lead it and each individual has been issued a vest, a wristband, a flier with information and a map. They are processing people very smoothly.

At least 200 people came to both South and Garfield Elementary. Search organizers are encouraging people who plan to help out throughout the day to dress for the heat and bring water. The temperature in Boise is expected to reach about 96 degrees Friday, according to the National Weather Service.

Sgt. Greg Oster, the officer in charge at Garfield, told the crowd there was no way officers could do this without their help. He thanked them for following the ground rules (no one under 18, no dogs, no strollers).

The reason they're being adamant about the age requirement, he said, was that they didn't want to put a child in the position of finding evidence that something bad had happened.

A family member called for a prayer at Garfield and a volunteer from a church led it.

The groups are being told that they are only searching public areas — alleys, streets, parks — not private property. They are specifically looking for Robert or any items that could lead to his location — such as clothing or personal effects.

At South, family members were making green ribbons and handing them out.

The Red Cross of Greater Idaho is supporting the search effort at the three staging areas.

The group will "provide water and snacks to the hundreds of volunteers expected to participate in the search," CEO Sue Robinson said. "The Red Cross has extensive experience in this kind of mass care need and we are pleased to support law enforcement, the family and the community in this endeavor."

http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/851769.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: burkieandemme on July 31, 2009, 01:43:12 PM
Young and old...that line of people is so heartwarming. So many people caring about this little guy.

Yes it is.  I hope he can be found today.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 01:48:53 PM
I think moving up the press conference 2 hours is so they can talk about the overnight search, and encourage people to show up for the 3 pm search without having to stop mid-shift at 2 pm and pull people away from searching to have the 2 p.m. presser.

They can give the presser at noon and then get back to searching.

jmo


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 01:53:13 PM
Breaking News - Boise Police News Conference Regarding Missing Boy, Robert Manwill
Posted: July 31, 2009 01:33 PM EDT

Boise, Idaho - New information is still scarce in the case of a missing 8 year old boy in Boise. Robert Manwill went missing a week ago today from his mother's apartment on the Boise Bench. A massive volunteer search has been underway all week, with thousands turning out this morning to look for Robert. Boise Police have moved their 2:00 press conference up to 12:00 noon Mountain Standard Time. They have contacted Fox 12 News and strongly urged us to be there. We will carry the news conference live on KTRV Fox 12 at noon. We will also be streaming the press conference live here on www.fox12idaho.com.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 01:57:53 PM
News conference is getting ready to start. I will take crib notes and post them for people who can't view video for whatever reason.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 02:00:54 PM
Crime scene tape is up again at the apartment. They are searching again this morning. According to Channel 2.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 02:04:32 PM
did the news conference start?  i just see a green screen   ::MonkeyConfused:: 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 02:07:13 PM
did the news conference start?  i just see a green screen   ::MonkeyConfused:: 

well i got sound at the end...


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 02:08:28 PM
Press conference:

Overnight search: Located evidence that Robert may have been injured or a victim of foul play. Robert is still missing though and needs to be found.

Thanks the community for all their help. Nothing but positive support from the residents.

Aunt Trish in tears: Asking people not to give up hope and please help them to find Robert and bring him home.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 02:11:21 PM
"he may have been a victim of tragic and suspicious circumstances" was the sheriff's exact wording.

He also said the support of the community and the support of Robert's family, and that impish little smile of Robert is what is fueling them to keep going.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 02:14:07 PM
Note: Mom and boyfriend didn't look to be at the presser.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 02:18:41 PM
Police: Evidence Manwill was injured
12:03 PM Fri, Jul 31, 2009 | Permalink
Don Day

BOISE - Police say they have uncovered evidence that shows Robert Manwill, 8 may have been injured.

After an overnight search of his mother's Boise Bench apartment, police spoke to the media at noon Friday.

"Overnight, investigators from the Boise Police Department that may bring us closer to finding out what happend to Robert," Boise Police Deputy Chief Jim Kerns said. "Robert may be injured, but Robert is still missing. It is very important that we find where he is - or where he is not."

Police did not take further questions from the media.

Just after 8 p.m., officers arrived at the home of Manwill's mother - Melissa Jensen. They removed a variety of materials, including cabinets and boxes. Canine dogs were also seen at the complex.

"He may be injured or the victim of a tragic event," Kerns said.

A car was also towed from the scene just after 12:30 a.m.

Investigators took down the police tape surrounding the apartment at about 4 a.m., but moments after the news conference was called, put the tape back up.

He stressed a large-scale public search for Manwill would continue - and that it is important to find him.

Manwill's aunt Trish Burrill then approahced the microphone and spoke tearfully to the media. "Please help us to bring Robert home," she said.

http://blogs.ktvb.com/breaking/2009/07/police-evidence-manwill-was-in.html



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 02:24:16 PM
The search for Robert: Police say Robert could be injured or the 'victim of a tragic event'
Statesman staff - Idaho Statesman
Published: 07/31/09

12:15 p.m.

So far, 185 people have been checked in at Garfield Elementary for the noon search — the second round of volunteer units being sent to the streets.

Though Boise police say "suspicious circumstances" surround Robert Manwill's disappearance and he may be injured or "the victim of a tragic event," they are still sending out searchings, saying he could be alive and any evidence pointing to where he is could save his life.

12:10 p.m.

While much of Robert Manwill's family, including his father, Chuck Manwill, and his aunt, Trish Burrill, attended the press conference, his mother and her boyfriend were not there.

Police searched their apartment Thursday night and began to cordon it off again mid-morning Thursday.

12:08 p.m.

Robert Manwill's aunt, Trish Burrill, tearfully called on the volunteers to keep searching.

12:01 p.m.

Deputy Chief Jim Kerns said police found evidence last night that "suspicious circumstances" surround Robert Manwill's disappearance.

He said the search will continue, because he could still be alive, even if he's injured.

11:47 a.m.

As police prepare for a hastily moved up noon press conference, here is a look at some of the people who turned up Friday to search for missing Robert Manwill.

Police say about 1,000 people showed up for the first two-hour shift — the outside goal of the whole day's search.

So many residents showed up at the Hillcrest branch library for the 9 a.m. search that police turned about 150 people away. Many of those said they would be back at noon.

Here are some of the people who gave their time:

— Michael Shoe has to be to work at Jackson's by 2 p.m., but he and his wife, Lisa, of Garden City, wanted to give their time anyway.

— Jenny McCullough, a mother and second-grade teacher of Boise, said Robert is about the age of her school kids and she had to help.

— Vinson Guadagno of Caldwell only moved to Idaho six months ago, but he believes in giving back. He remembers when his community in Florida came together several years ago to help his family after his daughter was in a motorcycle accident.

— Among the searchers were 54 black-shirt clad members of Centennial Job Corps from Nampa. One of them, Jeff Williams, 22, said he wanted to help for several reasons, including the fact he had two younger sisters.

“If I was in the same situation, I would appreciate any help I could get. I know how it would feel if it was one of my sisters — I just want to help,” Williams said. “We also feel the need to give something back to the community, since we get federal funding.”

11:38 a.m.

More on last night's raid:

Sean Buffington, who lives in the apartment above Melissa Sue Jenkins at the Oak Park Village complex at Vista Avenue and Targee Street, said he returned home Thursday night to find her apartment and the area sealed off with police tape.

Buffington said he saw police doing “mostly CSI type of stuff inside (Jenkins') apartment, like taking pictures and carrying stuff in bags,” as they searched Thursday night. He met with a group of neighbors to swap information Thursday night, but no one really had anything new.

“Police are keeping a pretty tight lid on this,” Buffington said.

Buffington said he met the Jenkins and her family a few times but didn’t really know them too well. Earlier Thursday, the FBI called Buffington to ask if they could search the small crawl-space attic of his apartment, which they did.

Oak Park maintenance man William Clark said he has been impressed with how thorough and polite the Boise Police and FBI have been during the searches over the last week — and the long, overtime hours they have been working “The police are doing a wonderful job ... they have been totally dedicated,” Clark said. “Money doesn’t matter at all when it comes to a life.”

http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/851769.html



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 02:24:26 PM
Thanks Pink!  One would assume that BPD has a very close eye on the parents right?....or at least I would hope so.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on July 31, 2009, 02:25:40 PM
http://www.kivitv.com/global/story.asp?s=10823713

Crime Lab at Manwill Mother's Apartment

Posted: July 30, 2009 09:15 PM PDT

Updated: July 31, 2009 10:00 AM PDT
 
 
Police have announced a press conference for noon today to share the latest developments in the case of missing boy Robert Manwill.  Police would not go into detail about what they plan to announce.  Today's Channel 6 will carry the press conference live.

Police showed up at the apartment complex on the Boise bench where Robert Manwill lives late last night and stayed until the early hours of this morning.

Police did tow away a car belonging to the family and removed several bags of items from the home. It's unclear exactly what was in the bags.

A Boise Police spokesperson tells Today's Channel 6 reporter Kelsey Minor these latest developments are just the latest steps in the investigation. 

A major search effort combining public and police resources has started as scheduled.

Stay with Today's Channel 6 for the latest breaking developments.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on July 31, 2009, 02:28:04 PM
http://www.2news.tv/news/local/52202712.html

Missing Boise boy 'may be the victim of a tragic event'
by KBCI Web Staff

Originally printed at http://www.2news.tv/news/local/52202712.html

BOISE - Authorities say they they now believe Robert Manwill's disappearance is based on "suspicious circumstances."


Jim Kerns, Boise Police deputy police chief, said Friday Robert is still missing but he may be injured.


"Overnight, we located evidence that may bring us closer to finding out what happened to Robert," Kerns said at a Friday news conference. "The evidence we've uncovered shows there are suspicous circumstances regarding Robert's disappearance."


"He may be the victim of a tragic event."


Friday's massive volunteer search for the boy will continue.



"(The community) response to find the missing little boy has been incredible," Kerns said.


Manwill, 8, has been missing for one week. He vanished from the Oak Park Village apartment complex in Boise last Friday at about 10 p.m.


Police had initially believed the boy may have gone to an unknown friend's house for a party, but that was ruled out as a possibility.


This week, Jim Kerns, Boise Police deputy police chief, said they were following hundreds of leads including interviewing registered sex offenders in Boise.


And on late Thursday, authorities did an extensive search into the apartment complex where Robert was last seen. That search included seizing items from Robert's mother's apartment. They also towed her red SUV. Police did not elaborate why they searched her apartment.


"This is the most important investigation we've had in a long time," said Michael Masterson, Boise Police chief.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 02:31:45 PM

Missing Boise boy 'may be the victim of a tragic event'

Story Created: Jul 31, 2009 at 11:47 AM MDT

Story Updated: Jul 31, 2009 at 12:26 PM MDT
By KBCI Web Staff
BOISE - Authorities say they they now believe Robert Manwill's disappearance is based on "suspicious circumstances."

Jim Kerns, Boise Police deputy police chief, said Friday Robert is still missing but he may be injured.

"Overnight, we located evidence that may bring us closer to finding out what happened to Robert," Kerns said at a Friday news conference. "The evidence we've uncovered shows there are suspicous circumstances regarding Robert's disappearance."

"He may be the victim of a tragic event."

Friday's massive volunteer search for the boy will continue.

"(The community) response to find the missing little boy has been incredible," Kerns said.

Manwill, 8, has been missing for one week. He vanished from the Oak Park Village apartment complex in Boise last Friday at about 10 p.m.

Police had initially believed the boy may have gone to an unknown friend's house for a party, but that was ruled out as a possibility.

This week, Jim Kerns, Boise Police deputy police chief, said they were following hundreds of leads including interviewing registered sex offenders in Boise.

And on late Thursday, authorities did an extensive search into the apartment complex where Robert was last seen. That search included seizing items from Robert's mother's apartment. They also towed her red SUV. Police did not elaborate why they searched her apartment.

"This is the most important investigation we've had in a long time," said Michael Masterson, Boise Police chief.

http://www.2news.tv/news/local/52202712.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 02:35:07 PM
You are welcome Leroy!

I would assume they know exactly where they are. They are probably being watched and listened to. jmo


klaas, you can delete the one, I just posted, since we were sharing a brain. LOL! :)


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: canadianmonkey on July 31, 2009, 02:36:00 PM
Prayers for this little boy.  He is just adorable.  How anyone could hurt someone that can smile like that is beyond me. 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 02:41:20 PM
You can see the pain on everyone's face.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 02:46:25 PM
A National Guard spokesperson told NewsChannel 7 that guardsmen are looking at the desert south of town for any unusual tire tracks or other things that may be out of place.

Thousands of volunteers from the community showed up at a number of locations around the Boise neighborhood where the boy went missing. They were assigned to Boise Police Department officers and are conducting a thorough day-long search of the area.

http://blogs.ktvb.com/breaking/2009/07/police-evidence-manwill-was-in.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 03:01:11 PM
Michelle Sigona of AMW, evidence found in mom's apartment indicates Robert may be injured or the victim of a tragedy. Well over a thousand people turned up to search and some businesses even closed for the day to allow staff to search.

Michelle was just on FNC.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 03:07:29 PM
According to a poster at WS who is watching the local news on TV. (no link)

The police searching the apartment today have removed a computer, they have also just pulled up with a rented U-Haul, with a police officer driving it.

They must plan on taking furniture into evidence??


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 03:10:58 PM
My heart i s
Prayers for this little boy.  He is just adorable.  How anyone could hurt someone that can smile like that is beyond me. 

It's beyond all of us, hon.

He is so cute. My heart hurts for him.
It hurts for his dad who may have now lost 2 children as a result of the women in his life. It hurts for his aunt, his older brother and all his extended family that are in such pain right now.

It's just so sad and tragic.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 03:20:06 PM
The search for Robert: Now looking for signs of injury or trauma, volunteers comb streets
Statesman staff - Idaho Statesman
Published: 07/31/09

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Robert Manwill family spokesperson Trish Burrill thanks the public for their massive search efforts during a noon press conference Friday. "Help us bring Robert home," she said. Boise police have announced that Robert may be injured or the victim of a tragic event.
 
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Mary Yalch, right, and Karen Carrington join in the massive public search Friday morning for missing 8-year-old Boise boy Robert Manwill.
 
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    * Video: Friday's press conference where police say they have evidence that "suspicious circumstances" exist in Robert Manwill's disappearance

1:04 p.m.

Boise Police Officer Kip Wills, ordinarily a traffic officer who works with search and rescue as well, is leading a group of volunteers searching an area bounded by Iowa, Linden, Broadway and Gekeler.

The area includes Ivywild Park, which has one of the nicest public swimming pools in town, so there's a reasonable chance you could find a child here, Wills said. It's a distance from Oak Village Apartments, but it's conceivable a kid could make his way here.

Searchers in this group did find blood on the sidewalk, but it turned out to be a dog with a torn paw.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/851769.html

Video at the link.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 03:22:19 PM
If a mod scrolls through here, could you edit this picture in the last post. TIA 


 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 04:02:07 PM
http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/Police/Multimedia/DepartmentVideos/LatestManwillPresserV5.wmv

police news conference


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 04:07:17 PM
Crowds Turn Out For Manwill Boy Search

Posted: July 31, 2009 02:36 PM

Updated: July 31, 2009 02:52 PM

Hundreds of volunteers showed up throughout the Boise area Friday to help search for Robert Manwill, 8, who has been missing for a week.

The search effort was the latest attempt to find the little boy, and came after an overnight raid of Manwill's mother's Boise Bench apartment. Several bags were removed from the site and a vehicle towed from the apartment complex.

At South Junior High School, one of three locations throughout Boise where volunteers gathered, as many as seven hundred searchers donned orange vests and clutched water bottles, ready for a long day in the sun.

"We're moms and if our kid went missing," volunteer Tina Hansford explained, "We'd want people to come out and help us."

Boise Mayor Dave Bieter offered words of thanks and encouragement to the volunteers at So. Jr. High School as police teamed up with groups and instructed them to look near "roadways, parks or canals."

In a news conference Friday afternoon, Boise Police urged searchers to continue looking for Robert and said volunteers were helping them with "one aspect" of the case.

http://www.kivitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10827616


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on July 31, 2009, 04:08:11 PM
http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/Police/Multimedia/DepartmentVideos/LatestManwillPresserV5.wmv

police news conference

Too sad. Just too, too sad. Another broken family. Another poor little innocent soul.  ::MonkeyWaa:: 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 04:12:17 PM
1:14 p.m. update

Here's what came from the press conference — the latest news still — as recapped by Statesman police reporter Patrick Orr:

Boise police say they have discovered undisclosed evidence that shows “suspicious circumstances” in the disappearance of 8-year-old Robert Manwill and that he “may indeed be injured — or the victim of a tragic event.”

But Boise police have not identified a suspect or person of interest in the case, and officials say they still need the hundreds of citizen volunteers scouring the Vista neighborhood to look for Robert.

“Robert is still missing. It’s very important we locate Robert and or find any evidence that may help us locate where he is or where he isn’t,” Boise Police Deputy Chief Jim Kerns told a group of reporters Friday afternoon.

Kerns said volunteers should report anything that looks “suspiciously out of place ... that may point to where Robert is. Even if we find nothing, we’ve learned where Robert isn’t. That too is helpful.”

For the second time in 12 hours Friday morning, Boise police detectives and crime scene investigators searched the apartment from where Robert disappeared. Police officials haven’t said what the evidence is that leads them to believe Robert was injured but did say that was what officers were concentrating on Friday.

“It’s the response from this community, Robert’s family, and the shy smile of the little boy on the missing (person) poster that keeps us investigators going,” Kerns said.

Manwill’s family members, including his father, Charles Manwill and his aunt, Trish Burrill, attended Friday’s press conference. Some wiped tears away from their eyes as Kerns spoke.

Burrill once again thanked the public for all their support and help in trying to find Robert.

“As a family, and as a whole, we want everyone not to give up hope,” Burrill said. “Please help us to bring Robert home.”

Boise police spokeswoman Lynn Hightower said the two afternoon volunteer search sessions will proceed. Police officials thought they may get between 600 and 1,000 volunteers for all three shift but may have reached that for the 9 a.m. shift Friday.

Hightower said officials have not been able to count the exact number of volunteers so far but say the public response is “unprecedented."

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/851769.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 04:15:04 PM
From Twitter:

RobertNelsoninc: Update..The Search for Robert Manwill Here in Boise, over 1k in searchers looking in town now, and 100s around my house. Police take mom car
14 minutes ago from TweetDeck


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 04:21:34 PM
from a local on twitter, image of search volunteers this morning:

Good turnout for the search call.

http://yfrog.com/e5u90j


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 04:22:23 PM
1,687 volunteers have helped look for Robert Manwill so far, according to CBS2.

Bless each and everyone of them. They still have the 3 p.m search to go.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 04:26:24 PM
From Twitter:

RobertNelsoninc: Update..The Search for Robert Manwill Here in Boise, over 1k in searchers looking in town now, and 100s around my house. Police take mom car
14 minutes ago from TweetDeck

They impounded it last night. It was a red Chevy Blazer SUV.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 04:29:02 PM
From Twitter:

RobertNelsoninc: Update..The Search for Robert Manwill Here in Boise, over 1k in searchers looking in town now, and 100s around my house. Police take mom car
14 minutes ago from TweetDeck

They impounded it last night. It was a red Chevy Blazer SUV.

I saw that in the one article.  Was not sure if this guy was referring to that or possibly another vehicle so I posted it.  Sorry if I caused confusion.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 04:33:48 PM
And on late Thursday, authorities did an extensive search into the apartment complex where Robert was last seen. That search included seizing items from Robert's mother's apartment. They also towed her red SUV. Police did not elaborate why they searched her apartment.
http://www.2news.tv/news/52202712.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 04:36:07 PM
from a local on twitter, image of search volunteers this morning:

Good turnout for the search call.

http://yfrog.com/e5u90j

Thank you Northern Rose.

A lot of people caring so much about this little guy.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 04:38:49 PM
From Twitter:

RobertNelsoninc: Update..The Search for Robert Manwill Here in Boise, over 1k in searchers looking in town now, and 100s around my house. Police take mom car
14 minutes ago from TweetDeck

They impounded it last night. It was a red Chevy Blazer SUV.

I saw that in the one article.  Was not sure if this guy was referring to that or possibly another vehicle so I posted it.  Sorry if I caused confusion.

Don't be sorry! Thank you for posting it. Things are happened so quickly, it could very well be another vehicle!

The media could have got the "owner" wrong on the SUV.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: burkieandemme on July 31, 2009, 04:44:54 PM
The search for Robert: Police to volunteers: 'Your efforts are not wasted'
Statesman staff - Idaho Statesman
Published: 07/31/09
http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/851769.html

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 3:20 p.m. As of 2 p.m., counted from all three staging locations, there were 1,687 volunteers. The 3 p.m. search will continue, and they plan to cover much of the same ground, just to be sure.

As one group of volunteers finished their shift, Boise Officer Kip Wills thanked them.

"No matter what, this is still a missing child," he said. "Your efforts are not wasted, they're not in vain. It's easy to get jaded."

"Officers have been out working for six days, but we're parents, too. If it were our kid, we would want everyone to be out looking."


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 04:54:59 PM
http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2009/07/31/11/page1.source.prod_affiliate.36.pdf
Canvas Instructions given to volunteer searchers

http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2009/07/31/11/page4.source.prod_affiliate.36.pdf
Grid search map given to volunteer searchers

Channel 2 Breaking News
Ada County Landfill is being taped off.

::crys::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 04:58:05 PM
2:49 p.m.

Daniel Edward Ehrlick, the boyfriend of Robert's mother, was admitted to Saint Alphonsus Regional Medical Center but has been released, according to a hospital spokeswoman.

She was unable to say when he entered the hospital or for what he was treated.


http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/851769.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 05:00:20 PM
http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2009/07/31/11/page1.source.prod_affiliate.36.pdf
Canvas Instructions given to volunteer searchers

http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2009/07/31/11/page4.source.prod_affiliate.36.pdf
Grid search map given to volunteer searchers

Channel 2 Breaking News
Ada County Landfill is being taped off.

::crys::

there is a poster on the Idaho Statesman that has been saying thats where they should be searching.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: burkieandemme on July 31, 2009, 05:01:36 PM
http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2009/07/31/11/page1.source.prod_affiliate.36.pdf
Canvas Instructions given to volunteer searchers

http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2009/07/31/11/page4.source.prod_affiliate.36.pdf
Grid search map given to volunteer searchers

Channel 2 Breaking News
Ada County Landfill is being taped off.
::crys::

Oh no... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 05:05:30 PM
I am trying to get a map.

Ada County Hidden Hollow Landfill
on Seeeman Rd


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cartfly on July 31, 2009, 05:07:58 PM
2:49 p.m.

Daniel Edward Ehrlick, the boyfriend of Robert's mother, was admitted to Saint Alphonsus Regional Medical Center but has been released, according to a hospital spokeswoman.

She was unable to say when he entered the hospital or for what he was treated.


http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/851769.html

Thanks Leroy for the updates! ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 05:11:54 PM
Police: Robert May Be Victim of Tragic Event

Posted: July 31, 2009 12:15 AM EDT

Updated: July 31, 2009 04:47 PM EDT

 
 
 
 
For the first time, Boise Police admit missing 8-year-old boy Robert Manwill's disappearance is suspicious.  At a press conference this afternoon, Deputy Chief Jim Kerns revealed police found evidence to indicate Robert may be injured or the victim of a tragic event.  Police would not say what evidence they found.

Also today, a crime scene van was seen at the Ada County Landfill.  A portion of the landfill was marked off with crime scene tape.  Boise Police will not confirm or deny if the crime scene van is related to the search for Robert Manwill.

Police showed up at the apartment complex on the Boise bench where Robert Manwill lives late last night and stayed until the early hours of this morning.

Police did tow away a car belonging to the family and removed several bags of items from the home. It's unclear exactly what was in the bags.

Today's developments did not stop the massive search for Robert Manwill.  Hundreds of people responded to the public call for volunteers to help look for evidence.

Stay with Today's Channel 6 for the latest breaking developments.

http://www.kivitv.com/global/story.asp?s=10823713



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 05:22:34 PM
3:15 p.m.

An Ada County sheriff's deputy has been asked to guard a portion of the Hidden Hollow Landfill for Boise police and make sure nothing is disturbed. A spokeswoman said the officer sent drives a crime scene investigation truck.

The officer has cordoned off a section of the dump — people are still taking trash to other parts of the landfill.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/851769.html?pageNum=12&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 05:25:07 PM
10300 N. Seaman's Gulch Rd., Boise, ID, 83702


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 05:26:43 PM
Thanks Leroy. My computer and google maps don't like each other. If someone else could find a map, that would be great.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on July 31, 2009, 05:30:38 PM
Thanks Leroy. My computer and google maps don't like each other. If someone else could find a map, that would be great.

Mine doesn't get along with google maps, either, pink angel.  I'm hoping to replace it some day soon.

Hopefully, someone will be able to find one.  You are all doing a great job posting info.

It doesn't seem like the outcome will be as we all hoped.    ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Edward on July 31, 2009, 05:31:59 PM
Police investigating the disappearance of an Idaho boy missing for a week said Friday they are afraid the child may have been the victim of a tragedy.

Boise authorities told reporters that there are "suspicious circumstances" surrounding 8-year-old Robert Manwill's disappearance.

"Robert may be injured or be the victim of a tragic event," said Boise Police Chief Jim Kerns at a brief Friday press conference. "But he is still missing."

Earlier this week, news emerged that Robert's mother is on probation for fracturing the skull of the missing boy's infant half brother, who was removed from her custody by the state.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,535914,00.html?test=latestnews


Looks like they consider her suspect, without saying it..


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 05:34:30 PM
Thanks Leroy. My computer and google maps don't like each other. If someone else could find a map, that would be great.

I'm not good with maps and would have no idea how to post the actual map...here is a link to the one I just did...maybe it will work???  I'll give it a whirl...

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=2800+Cherry+Ln,+Boise,+Idaho+83705&daddr=10300+Seamans+Gulch+Rd,+Garden+City,+Ada,+Idaho+83714&hl=en&geocode=FYsBmQIdDa0S-Q%3B&mra=pe&mrcr=0&sll=43.641569,-116.238427&sspn=0.237023,0.44014&ie=UTF8&ll=43.633093,-116.207199&spn=0.237056,0.44014&t=h&z=11



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: sunshine12 on July 31, 2009, 05:36:24 PM
this is devestating, it completely breaks my heart. i think that we all have that sick feeling in our hearts and stomach because we all know what the result of this case is going to be.  i try to be optimistic but i just don't think this is going to turn out well.  especially since part of the landfill has been blocked off and is being guarded. 

if the boyfriend was hospitalized and released it could be because he had an injury that could have occured during this crime if he's responsible, or another scenario could be that he had an anxiety attack or something along those lines...

i am so sad and disgusted right now. i pray robert gets the justice he deserves


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 05:37:48 PM
3:27 p.m.

Boise police say they don't plan to have another update until noon Saturday.

If developments call for an additional briefing, the media will be notified, spokeswoman Lynn Hightower said.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/851769.html?pageNum=12&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Lovinlife on July 31, 2009, 05:38:03 PM
Thanks Leroy! 

WTF is wrong with people?  Did they not think that splitting the scull of the infant would be grounds to remove ALL THE CHILDREN????

I'm with you sunshine12, just beyond words.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 05:39:04 PM
this is devestating, it completely breaks my heart. i think that we all have that sick feeling in our hearts and stomach because we all know what the result of this case is going to be.  i try to be optimistic but i just don't think this is going to turn out well.  especially since part of the landfill has been blocked off and is being guarded. 

if the boyfriend was hospitalized and released it could be because he had an injury that could have occured during this crime if he's responsible, or another scenario could be that he had an anxiety attack or something along those lines...

i am so sad and disgusted right now. i pray robert gets the justice he deserves

I'm secretly hoping that the boyfriend was hospitalized because BPD whooped his a$$ in an attempt to get him to talk.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 05:42:51 PM
Hope this works.

From Melissa's Apartment to the Landfill:
(http://i28.tinypic.com/28j9s1i.jpg)


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 05:43:40 PM
Thanks Leroy! 

WTF is wrong with people?  Did they not think that splitting the scull of the infant would be grounds to remove ALL THE CHILDREN????

I'm with you sunshine12, just beyond words.

Hi Lovin!  I agree...this so called mother shouldn't be allowed alone with children EVER.

All these children going missing is just unbelievable...and I cant understand parents allowing these kids to be out wandering the streets so late at night   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 05:44:52 PM
Thanks Pink! 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 05:46:20 PM
this is devestating, it completely breaks my heart. i think that we all have that sick feeling in our hearts and stomach because we all know what the result of this case is going to be.  i try to be optimistic but i just don't think this is going to turn out well.  especially since part of the landfill has been blocked off and is being guarded. 

if the boyfriend was hospitalized and released it could be because he had an injury that could have occured during this crime if he's responsible, or another scenario could be that he had an anxiety attack or something along those lines...

i am so sad and disgusted right now. i pray robert gets the justice he deserves

I'm secretly hoping that the boyfriend was hospitalized because BPD whooped his a$$ in an attempt to get him to talk.

We can hope!

Sounds like the suspect in Sandra Cantu's murder, she was hospitalized just before she was arrested too!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 05:47:07 PM
Thanks Pink! 

Thanks backtacha ya! My computer moaned the whole time.
Poor Frankinputer.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 05:47:46 PM
There is a pic of the officer at the landfill here

http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/851769.html?pageNum=12&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 05:49:20 PM
Thanks Leroy! 

WTF is wrong with people?  Did they not think that splitting the scull of the infant would be grounds to remove ALL THE CHILDREN????

I'm with you sunshine12, just beyond words.

Hi Lovin!  I agree...this so called mother shouldn't be allowed alone with children EVER.

All these children going missing is just unbelievable...and I cant understand parents allowing these kids to be out wandering the streets so late at night   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 



I agree. I don't think our little man Robert was out wandering the streets though. I think whatever happened....happened right there in his mom's apartment.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 05:50:54 PM
Thanks Leroy. My computer and google maps don't like each other. If someone else could find a map, that would be great.

I'm not good with maps and would have no idea how to post the actual map...here is a link to the one I just did...maybe it will work???  I'll give it a whirl...

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=2800+Cherry+Ln,+Boise,+Idaho+83705&daddr=10300+Seamans+Gulch+Rd,+Garden+City,+Ada,+Idaho+83714&hl=en&geocode=FYsBmQIdDa0S-Q%3B&mra=pe&mrcr=0&sll=43.641569,-116.238427&sspn=0.237023,0.44014&ie=UTF8&ll=43.633093,-116.207199&spn=0.237056,0.44014&t=h&z=11


Hope this helps


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 05:58:49 PM
Investigators at Ada County landfill

Story Updated: Jul 31, 2009 at 3:24 PM MDT
By KBCI Web Staff
BOISE - Authorities are currently at the Ada County landfill.

At this time, it's unclear whether this investigation is connected to the case of missing 8-year-old Robert Manwill.

A reporter on scene says an area of the landfill has been cordoned off. A deputy on scene says he was told by Boise Police to go to the landfill and "sit on some trash."

When asked whether the landfill investigation is connected to the missing boy, he said he couldn't confirm and referred any questions to Boise Police.

Stay tuned for details

http://www.2news.tv/news/local/52215662.html
 ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 05:59:20 PM
Thanks Leroy! 

WTF is wrong with people?  Did they not think that splitting the scull of the infant would be grounds to remove ALL THE CHILDREN????

I'm with you sunshine12, just beyond words.

Hi Lovin!  I agree...this so called mother shouldn't be allowed alone with children EVER.

All these children going missing is just unbelievable...and I cant understand parents allowing these kids to be out wandering the streets so late at night   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 



I agree. I don't think our little man Robert was out wandering the streets though. I think whatever happened....happened right there in his mom's apartment.

Yes, sadly I think you are right   ::MonkeyWaa:: 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 06:01:35 PM

Thank you Northern Rose! Much better than mine.

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smooch!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 06:14:10 PM

Thank you Northern Rose! Much better than mine.

(http://fracas.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/smooch.jpg)
smooch!

No thanks needed, we all work together for these precious children.  Hugs!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 06:16:11 PM
from Twitter:

nwoidaho: #FindRobert BPD are telling searchers to look for the body of Robert Manwill. Landfill is place of interest right now...
6 minutes ago from TweetDeck

ppaluigi: Just finished volunteer search for missing Robert Manwill. Events don't look good. Just pray he's ok.
31 minutes ago from web


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 06:17:44 PM
More from Twitter and I am Praying they are wrong:

RT @hooker1033: Heartbreaking! RT @janabriggs: Mom and bf are in custody. Officer confirmed foul play. We're being told to look for a body.
23 minutes ago from TweetDeck

@hooker1033 #FindRobert I sure hope that last tweet was just rumor. I just hate this. :(
22 minutes ago from TweetDeck in reply to hooker1033

#FindRobert RT @KBOI670 Ada County Sheriff's Deputy is guarding part of the Ada County Landfill at the request of Boise Police.
12 minutes ago from TweetDeck


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 06:20:57 PM
screen caps of the searchers and of the search going on today at the apartment, where they have brought in a u-haul for evidence.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 06:23:38 PM
Here are tweets from one of the searchers that is there right now:

@Fox12nizdizzle we are scouring the area behind murphy's steakhouse. From Denver to Rossi then west to Boise Ave. Nada yet #findRobert
less than 10 seconds ago from TwitterBerry   

  I have to say I'm impressed w/ the folks on my shift. Such a diverse group of ppl from all walks of life coming together. #findRobert @ktvb
2 minutes ago from TwitterBerry   

  Officer says next focus will be on foothills and desert. #findRobert @ktvb
15 minutes ago from TwitterBerry 
 
  Here we go. #findRobert
41 minutes ago from TwitterBerry   

  Mom and bf are in custody. Officer confirmed foul play. We're being told to look for a body. #findRobert @ktvb
about 1 hour ago from TwitterBerry   

  We're being told to watch for smells. I won't give u the details. :-(
about 1 hour ago from TwitterBerry   

  Wow, can't believe how many people are here at Garfield. So many more are pouring in. They're not turning folks away yet. Get your butt here
about 1 hour ago from TwitterBerry   

  There's about 100 ppl here. #findRobert
about 1 hour ago from TwitterBerry   

  Lots of folks r showing up @ garfield. #findRobert
about 2 hours ago from TwitterBerry   

  45 mins until the next shift begins. Meet me at Garfield Elem (Boise Ave/Broadway)! #findRobert
about 2 hours ago from TwitterBerry


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 06:28:58 PM
Search for missing Boise boy takes grim turn
By JESSIE L. BONNER - Associated Press Writer
Published: 07/31/09

BOISE, Idaho — A Boise search for a missing 8-year-old took a grim turn as police suggested he may be hurt - or worse - and searched the apartment of his mother, who has a history of harming another child.

Police and FBI detectives Friday coordinated more than 1,500 volunteers in a massive search for Robert Manwill, who reportedly disappeared July 24 after leaving his mother's apartment on the southwest side of Idaho's capitol city.

Early in the week, investigators said they had no evidence suggesting foul play.

But Deputy Chief Jim Kerns changed course Friday, saying new evidence recovered in a Thursday night search of the apartment of the boy's mother, Melissa Scott Jenkins, has detectives tracking new leads.

"The evidence we've uncovered shows that there are suspicious circumstances surrounding Robert's disappearance," Kerns said during a press conference. "Volunteers assisting in the search today are being given the information by search team officers that Robert may indeed be injured or the victim of a tragic event."

So far, police say there are no arrests or suspects in the case. Investigators were seen taking an SUV and other items during the search of Jenkins' apartment Thursday night.

Jenkins has been at previous press conferences, but didn't attend Friday. Police wouldn't say where she was.

The boy was visiting her the night he disappeared. His father, Charles Manwill, has had custody since 2008 and lives in New Plymouth, about 45 miles northwest of Boise.

Court records show a history of family tragedies involving young children.

Jenkins pleaded guilty in March to a misdemeanor charge of injury to a child following an October 2008 incident that fractured her infant son's skull.

Jenkins "did willfully inflict" the injury to her other son "by striking the child's head on a surface, causing a fracture to the child's skull," on Oct. 19, 2008. She was sentenced to 29 days of work release, fined $75.50 and put on probation for two years, according to court documents.

That child is the son of Jenkins' boyfriend, Daniel Edward Ehrlick. The boy was in the care of the state Department of Health and Welfare through at least February, according to court documents. The agency will not release his whereabouts, citing policy.

Jenkins has a third child, a 2-year-old daughter fathered by a third man, who has custody of her. Jenkins has visitation rights. Ehrlick, who has been convicted of burglary, battery and possession of drug paraphernalia, is banned from being alone with the girl, but court documents don't say why.

In another case, Charles Manwill's former wife stabbed their 4-year-old son, Michael, in the chest in 1993, killing him. Silke Fatma Manwill pleaded guilty to voluntary manslaughter, was sentenced to federal prison and released in 2002.

Charles Manwill was among family members who flanked chief Kerns as he spoke to reporters Friday.

"We want everyone not to give up hope," said Trisha Burrill, the boy's aunt. "Please help us bring Robert home."

Boise police spokeswoman Lynn Hightower said volunteers on Friday covered a 1 1/2-mile to 2-mile radius around the scene where the boy was reported missing.

The search is believed to be the biggest attempt to find a missing person in the city's history, Hightower said.

Boise Police Department Sgt. P.D. Burch supervised a volunteer post at South Junior High School, and said 200 volunteers from New Plymouth, where the boy was supposed to enroll in third grade next month, were being bused to Boise to help in the search.

Family members gathered under a tent at the edge of the high school football field, where a 31-year-old mother of two from Meridian approached the group and asked if she could bring them lunch.

"We wanted to do something," said Randee Fratto, who walked away clutching her 4-month-old daughter, Olivia, and a handful of missing posters with pictures of Robert Manwill wearing a shy smile.

"It breaks your heart," Fratto said. "It makes you want to hug your babies and never let go

http://www.idahostatesman.com/531/story/852051.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 06:32:57 PM
I doubt the one about the mom and BF in custody. They wouldn't tell searchers without telling the media first. jmo

They were told to they are looking for evidence such as clothes, blood, a hurt little boy or perhaps a dead little boy. To pay attention to any foul smells. That was just on the Channel 2 news.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on July 31, 2009, 06:36:02 PM
Thanks Leroy! 

WTF is wrong with people?  Did they not think that splitting the scull of the infant would be grounds to remove ALL THE CHILDREN????

I'm with you sunshine12, just beyond words.

Hi Lovin!  I agree...this so called mother shouldn't be allowed alone with children EVER.

All these children going missing is just unbelievable...and I cant understand parents allowing these kids to be out wandering the streets so late at night   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 



Ditto on both ::MonkeyNoNo:: Why the hell didn't they remove all the kids.hello, if she'll fracture the skull of an infant, there is no telling what she is capable of. I'm sick in my heart~all these missing children, so many murdered at the hands of their parent while loving couples who can't have kids would be better suited for these children........ ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 06:40:14 PM
from Twitter:

janabriggs: Magic 93 is reporting a section of landfill at Hollow something has been cordoned off. :-( #findRobert
1 minute ago from TwitterBerry   
 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on July 31, 2009, 06:42:50 PM
There is just not much to say, I'm just shaking my head wondering why this mother was allowed to even have visits unsupervised with Robert? Thanks for all the updates.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on July 31, 2009, 06:44:12 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,535914,00.html

(http://www.foxnews.com/images/548735/2_61_manwill_robert.jpg)

Missing Idaho Boy's Disappearance 'Suspicious,' Police Say
Friday , July 31, 2009

Police investigating the disappearance of an Idaho boy missing for a week said Friday they are afraid the child may have been the victim of a tragedy.

Boise authorities told reporters that there are "suspicious circumstances" surrounding 8-year-old Robert Manwill's disappearance.

"Robert may be injured or be the victim of a tragic event," said Boise Police Chief Jim Kerns at a brief Friday press conference. "But he is still missing."

Earlier this week, news emerged that Robert's mother is on probation for fracturing the skull of the missing boy's infant half brother, who was removed from her custody by the state.

Robert was last seen near the Boise apartment of his mother, Melissa Scott Jenkins. Police detectives, FBI agents and more than 100 volunteers have searched extensively, but haven't found him.

Boise police have previously said there is no evidence of foul play in the disappearance of Robert, and that the family is cooperating fully.

The missing boy's father, Charles Manwill, has had custody of him since 2008. Jenkins has visitation rights, and the boy was visiting her the night he disappeared.

Court records show a history of family tragedies involving children.

Jenkins pleaded guilty in March to a misdemeanor charge of injury to a child following an October 2008 incident that fractured her infant son's skull, according to The Idaho Statesman.

Court records say Jenkins "did willfully inflict" the injury to her other son "by striking the child's head on a surface, causing a fracture to the child's skull," on Oct. 19, 2008. She was sentenced to 29 days of work release, fined $75.50 and put on probation for two years.

The child is the son of Jenkins' boyfriend, Daniel Edward Ehrlick, and was in the care of the state Department of Health and Welfare through at least February, according to court documents. The agency on Wednesday would not release his whereabouts, citing policy.

Jenkins has a third child, a 2 1/2-year-old daughter, fathered by a third man, who has custody of her. Jenkins has visitation rights. Ehrlick, who has been convicted of burglary, battery and possession of drug paraphernalia, is banned from being alone with the girl, but court documents don't say why.

In another case, Charles Manwill's wife, Silke Fatma Manwill, stabbed their 4-year-old son, Michael, in the chest in 1993, killing him. She was sentenced to federal prison after pleading guilty to voluntary manslaughter, and was released in 2002. ::MonkeyEek::

Meanwhile, Jenkins has declined to comment on her son Robert's disappearance.

"We are a joined family at this time in this crisis," said Trisha Burrill, Robert Manwill's aunt. "We are acting as one, with one goal in mind. To bring Robert back."



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 06:49:25 PM
from Twitter:

kelseyreporter: Police activity still taking place at home of Robert Manwill...details on this missing boy on ch 6 live at 5 http://myloc.me/g0E8
7 minutes ago from UberTwitter


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 06:52:58 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,535914,00.html

(http://www.foxnews.com/images/548735/2_61_manwill_robert.jpg)

Missing Idaho Boy's Disappearance 'Suspicious,' Police Say
Friday , July 31, 2009

Police investigating the disappearance of an Idaho boy missing for a week said Friday they are afraid the child may have been the victim of a tragedy.

Boise authorities told reporters that there are "suspicious circumstances" surrounding 8-year-old Robert Manwill's disappearance.

"Robert may be injured or be the victim of a tragic event," said Boise Police Chief Jim Kerns at a brief Friday press conference. "But he is still missing."

Earlier this week, news emerged that Robert's mother is on probation for fracturing the skull of the missing boy's infant half brother, who was removed from her custody by the state.

--snipped--


I thought they returned the child back to her in February.  I'll see if I can find it....


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tina Bee on July 31, 2009, 06:53:17 PM
I imagine LE wanted to keep the focus on finding Robert and investigate Mom and boyfriend behind the scenes, maybe trying to make sure they do everything by the book to insure a conviction of those responsible....

I don't mean to sound negative but I do not feel like this is going to turn out like we would hope, JMO. I would love to be proved wrong! I can't stop thinking about this beautiful boy and all he has possibly endured in 8 years. This case has really taken a hold of me being a mom of two boys.

Seeing all the dedication and compassion of many of the monkeys here gives me hope that we can make a difference somehow in what this world has come to.

In the past 24 hours it looks like this case has taken a turn for the worse. I just heard on HLN that Robert's blood was found inside his mother's home and that he may be injured along with being missing  :2saywhaa:

Looks like you were right. LE has been keeping a close watch on Mom and her BF. This is such a sad story. Robert should not have been allowed to see his mother period.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 06:55:45 PM
from Twitter:

janabriggs: Officer: investigation has shifted drastically and the BPD is calling off searches beyond today's shifts. Mom not n cust. #findRobert
3 minutes ago from TwitterBerry


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on July 31, 2009, 06:56:28 PM
http://twitter.com/search?q=%23findRobert

janabriggs: Officer: investigation has shifted drastically and the BPD is calling off searches beyond today's shifts. Mom not n cust. #findRobert 3 minutes ago from TwitterBerry


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 06:56:53 PM
from Twiiter:

@HeilmanDM Officer just clarified. Mom and bf NOT in custody but had been questioned following search warrant and have confirmed foul play.
less than a minute ago from TwitterBerry


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 06:57:00 PM
Missing Idaho Boy's Disappearance 'Suspicious,' Police Say
Friday, July 31, 2009 


Police investigating the disappearance of an Idaho boy missing for a week said Friday they are afraid the child may have been the victim of a tragedy.

Boise authorities told reporters that there are "suspicious circumstances" surrounding 8-year-old Robert Manwill's disappearance.

"Robert may be injured or be the victim of a tragic event," said Boise Police Chief Jim Kerns at a brief Friday press conference. "But he is still missing."

Earlier this week, news emerged that Robert's mother is on probation for fracturing the skull of the missing boy's infant half brother, who was removed from her custody by the state.

Robert was last seen near the Boise apartment of his mother, Melissa Scott Jenkins. Police detectives, FBI agents and more than 100 volunteers have searched extensively, but haven't found him.

Boise police have previously said there is no evidence of foul play in the disappearance of Robert, and that the family is cooperating fully.

The missing boy's father, Charles Manwill, has had custody of him since 2008. Jenkins has visitation rights, and the boy was visiting her the night he disappeared.

Court records show a history of family tragedies involving children.

Jenkins pleaded guilty in March to a misdemeanor charge of injury to a child following an October 2008 incident that fractured her infant son's skull, according to The Idaho Statesman.

Court records say Jenkins "did willfully inflict" the injury to her other son "by striking the child's head on a surface, causing a fracture to the child's skull," on Oct. 19, 2008. She was sentenced to 29 days of work release, fined $75.50 and put on probation for two years.

The child is the son of Jenkins' boyfriend, Daniel Edward Ehrlick, and was in the care of the state Department of Health and Welfare through at least February, according to court documents. The agency on Wednesday would not release his whereabouts, citing policy.

--snipped--

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,535914,00.html?sPage=fnc/us/crime



hmmmm....anyone know exactly who all lived with Robert?   


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on July 31, 2009, 06:57:04 PM
 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 06:59:25 PM
from Twiiter:

janabriggs: @aard7ark Officer just clarified mom/bf NOT in custody but were questioned today following search warrant (last night). #findRobert
half a minute ago from TwitterBerry


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 07:04:11 PM
Saturday was the only day people could dump in the landfill.
The landfill manager said LE contacted him at 7 a.m. this morning and told him to not let anyone into the area or any machines in the area and that is when it was roped off.

Mom and BF are not in custody, per a call to the police.

Update from CBS2.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 07:07:21 PM
Saturday was the only day people could dump in the landfill.
The landfill manager said LE contacted him at 7 a.m. this morning and told him to not let anyone into the area or any machines in the area and that is when it was roped off.

Mom and BF are not in custody, per a call to the police.

Update from CBS2.

Landfill has been closed since last Saturday.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tina Bee on July 31, 2009, 07:08:12 PM
Ugh, this is turning worse and worse by the minute.

How could mom and BF stand there at those press confrences like they had no idea what happened to this little boy? I know it's too early to say they're involved, but something about this case just stinks!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 07:12:46 PM
Leroy there was an aunt that posted at one of the boards the first day or two. She had said that the baby was back in the custody of mom. Now whether she was an actual aunt or if that information is true. IDK

The little girl lives with her dad. Mom has visitation with her. If that is supervised, IDK.

That the court awarded this mom unsupervised visits with ANY of her offspring is UNBELIEVEABLE. jmo

They have little Robert's blood on their hands, should he be found dead and his mom or BF is responsible.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: sunshine12 on July 31, 2009, 07:26:03 PM
http://twitter.com/search?q=%23findRobert

janabriggs: Officer: investigation has shifted drastically and the BPD is calling off searches beyond today's shifts. Mom not n cust. #findRobert 3 minutes ago from TwitterBerry

to me this means a body was found or there was a confession unfortunately.  i'm saying prayers for robert right now


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on July 31, 2009, 07:30:08 PM
http://twitter.com/search?q=%23findRobert

janabriggs: Officer: investigation has shifted drastically and the BPD is calling off searches beyond today's shifts. Mom not n cust. #findRobert 3 minutes ago from TwitterBerry

to me this means a body was found or there was a confession unfortunately.  i'm saying prayers for robert right now

Does this mean mom not in custody, but BF is? I am praying too.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 07:31:34 PM
http://twitter.com/#search?q=robert%20manwill

itskitt: Police now searching a local landfill, the Mom's apt. and another house....looking for Robert manwill...
24 minutes ago from web   
 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 07:32:12 PM
Leroy there was an aunt that posted at one of the boards the first day or two. She had said that the baby was back in the custody of mom. Now whether she was an actual aunt or if that information is true. IDK

The little girl lives with her dad. Mom has visitation with her. If that is supervised, IDK.

That the court awarded this mom unsupervised visits with ANY of her offspring is UNBELIEVEABLE. jmo

They have little Robert's blood on their hands, should he be found dead and his mom or BF is responsible.



Thanks Pink.  I am still appalled at how easy she got off for harming a child!  And yes, the courts will be just as guilty as her if she had any part in this IMO


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 07:34:43 PM
from Twitter

nwoidaho: #FindRobert Police have the Landfill and a house on Five Mile and Southdale sectioned off. 4 minutes ago from TweetDeck


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 07:35:15 PM
Crime Scene van on scene on South Dale ave. Near 5 mile Rd. A house.

per CBS2


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: lady on July 31, 2009, 07:36:12 PM
I have to ask WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY would they let this mother have visitation with any kids when she harmed one of them already...Noone is protecting our kids anymore..


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: lady on July 31, 2009, 07:37:45 PM
Crime Scene van on scene on South Dale ave. Near 5 mile Rd. A house.

per CBS2
do u have a link?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 07:38:32 PM
http://twitter.com/search?q=%23findRobert

janabriggs: Officer: investigation has shifted drastically and the BPD is calling off searches beyond today's shifts. Mom not n cust. #findRobert 3 minutes ago from TwitterBerry

to me this means a body was found or there was a confession unfortunately.  i'm saying prayers for robert right now

Does this mean mom not in custody, but BF is? I am praying too.

Fanny CBS2 said they heard that rumor and called BPD who confirmed no one is in custody.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 07:41:51 PM
cowgirlup wrote on July, 31 5:10 PM:
Police have secured a home off of 5-mile, with fresh turned dirt in the back, and a connection to the family.

Reply to this Comment Recommend (1) Report

cowgirlup wrote on July, 31 5:18 PM:
Replying to doghouse (July, 31 5:14 PM):
"cowgirl - where is your info from...before we start getting antsy...":
Turn on KTVB news they have footage right now on the story also and a crime scene unit is on scene, officers have the back and the front secured.


http://www.idahostatesman.com/235/story/851769.html?storylink=omni_popular&pageNum=15&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container

 ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: sunshine12 on July 31, 2009, 07:41:57 PM
as i have mentioned previously on this board, i used to work for child protective services and i can tell you that 90% of the reason i left the job was because of the moral dilemma i had when i saw abused children being returned to their parents by the courts because the parents were believed to be "rehabilitated" and the most important thing was to "perserve the family unit."

based on the information we have been given so far and the criminal backgrounds of the individuals involved in roberts life, and the hospitalization of the mothers boyfriend, i actually believe that the mother did something to hurt robert and ended up killing him, and the boyfriend helped her cover it up and had a breakdown about it and he was hospitalized because of that.

i think the mother and boyfriend both need to be locked up. some people should not be allowed to have children.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 07:42:20 PM
Crime Scene van on scene on South Dale ave. Near 5 mile Rd. A house.

per CBS2
do u have a link?

http://www.fisherinteractive.com/kbci/live/


The ADA count sheriff said that it is a multi-agency investigation.
There is a crime scene van, a tent set up. Won't comment on if it's related to Robert or not.

IDP is also there.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 07:43:21 PM
from Twitter

nwoidaho: #FindRobert Police have the Landfill and a house on Five Mile and Southdale sectioned off. 4 minutes ago from TweetDeck

C is five Mile and Southdale.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=2800+Cherry+Ln,+Boise,+Idaho+83705&daddr=10300+Seamans+Gulch+Rd,+Garden+City,+Ada,+Idaho+83714&hl=en&geocode=FYsBmQIdDa0S-Q%3B&mra=pe&mrcr=0&sll=43.641569,-116.238427&sspn=0.237023,0.44014&ie=UTF8&ll=43.633093,-116.207199&spn=0.237056,0.44014&t=h&z=11


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on July 31, 2009, 07:44:41 PM
I am somewhat familiar with Boise, and I don't think S Dale and Five Mile Rd are close together, unless it is one I don't know. South Dale is very close to Vista Ave, and I understand that is where the mom's apt is. Can anyone clarify?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: sunshine12 on July 31, 2009, 07:46:00 PM
Crime Scene van on scene on South Dale ave. Near 5 mile Rd. A house.

per CBS2
do u have a link?

i wonder who's home this is


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 07:47:02 PM
I am somewhat familiar with Boise, and I don't think S Dale and Five Mile Rd are close together, unless it is one I don't know. South Dale is very close to Vista Ave, and I understand that is where the mom's apt is. Can anyone clarify?

Fanny please click the link on the map I just posted and let me know if it is wrong.  It is the only place that a "Southdale" got close to Five Mile.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on July 31, 2009, 07:47:30 PM
Thanks NORTHERN ROSE, I see it now. I am still praying.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on July 31, 2009, 07:49:56 PM
Crime Scene van on scene on South Dale ave. Near 5 mile Rd. A house.

per CBS2
do u have a link?

i wonder who's home this is
I wonder also  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 07:49:59 PM
Thanks NORTHERN ROSE, I see it now. I am still praying.

I am hoping it the correct place.  If I have it wrong please let me know.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 07:50:11 PM
as i have mentioned previously on this board, i used to work for child protective services and i can tell you that 90% of the reason i left the job was because of the moral dilemma i had when i saw abused children being returned to their parents by the courts because the parents were believed to be "rehabilitated" and the most important thing was to "perserve the family unit."

based on the information we have been given so far and the criminal backgrounds of the individuals involved in roberts life, and the hospitalization of the mothers boyfriend, i actually believe that the mother did something to hurt robert and ended up killing him, and the boyfriend helped her cover it up and had a breakdown about it and he was hospitalized because of that.

i think the mother and boyfriend both need to be locked up. some people should not be allowed to have children.

I think "preserving the family unit" goes out the window when you fracture a childs skull!

sunshine - i dont think i could do that job for the same reason.  what is wrong with these courts today   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 07:51:16 PM
5:45 p.m.

Dave Neal, director of Ada County's solid waste management, said the part of the dump where Saturday's refuse was taken has been left alone since then.

Friday, an Ada County sheriff's deputy officially cordoned it off with crime scene tape.

If police ask, the landfill workers can take Saturday's trash a foot at a time and lay it our flat, with a bulldozer, to be sifted through, Neal said.


http://www.idahostatesman.com/235/story/851769.html?storylink=omni_popular&pageNum=15&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on July 31, 2009, 07:51:44 PM
as i have mentioned previously on this board, i used to work for child protective services and i can tell you that 90% of the reason i left the job was because of the moral dilemma i had when i saw abused children being returned to their parents by the courts because the parents were believed to be "rehabilitated" and the most important thing was to "perserve the family unit."

based on the information we have been given so far and the criminal backgrounds of the individuals involved in roberts life, and the hospitalization of the mothers boyfriend, i actually believe that the mother did something to hurt robert and ended up killing him, and the boyfriend helped her cover it up and had a breakdown about it and he was hospitalized because of that.

i think the mother and boyfriend both need to be locked up. some people should not be allowed to have children.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on July 31, 2009, 07:53:41 PM
as i have mentioned previously on this board, i used to work for child protective services and i can tell you that 90% of the reason i left the job was because of the moral dilemma i had when i saw abused children being returned to their parents by the courts because the parents were believed to be "rehabilitated" and the most important thing was to "perserve the family unit."

based on the information we have been given so far and the criminal backgrounds of the individuals involved in roberts life, and the hospitalization of the mothers boyfriend, i actually believe that the mother did something to hurt robert and ended up killing him, and the boyfriend helped her cover it up and had a breakdown about it and he was hospitalized because of that.

i think the mother and boyfriend both need to be locked up. some people should not be allowed to have children.
To say that child protective services needs a complete overhaul seems like an understatement  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I'm wondering if the boyfriend attempted suicide?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on July 31, 2009, 07:53:46 PM
Thanks NORTHERN ROSE, I see it now. I am still praying.

I am hoping it the correct place.  If I have it wrong please let me know.

It is Southdale Ave, and not S. Dale Ave. You are correct, I believe.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 08:00:00 PM
as i have mentioned previously on this board, i used to work for child protective services and i can tell you that 90% of the reason i left the job was because of the moral dilemma i had when i saw abused children being returned to their parents by the courts because the parents were believed to be "rehabilitated" and the most important thing was to "perserve the family unit."

based on the information we have been given so far and the criminal backgrounds of the individuals involved in roberts life, and the hospitalization of the mothers boyfriend, i actually believe that the mother did something to hurt robert and ended up killing him, and the boyfriend helped her cover it up and had a breakdown about it and he was hospitalized because of that.

i think the mother and boyfriend both need to be locked up. some people should not be allowed to have children.
To say that child protective services needs a complete overhaul seems like an understatement  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I'm wondering if the boyfriend attempted suicide?

I doubt it. They don't treat and release the same day for a suicide attempt. They usually hold you for at least 72 hours.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 08:00:47 PM
5:53 p.m.
Ada County Sheriff's Office crime scene investigators are preparing to do a multi-agency search of a house on Southdale Avenue in Southwest Boise. Boise police department will be lead agency for the search.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/235/story/851769.html?storylink=omni_popular&pageNum=15&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container




Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Sassycat on July 31, 2009, 08:01:18 PM
This is so heart breaking.   Praying for Robert.   


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 08:03:45 PM
as i have mentioned previously on this board, i used to work for child protective services and i can tell you that 90% of the reason i left the job was because of the moral dilemma i had when i saw abused children being returned to their parents by the courts because the parents were believed to be "rehabilitated" and the most important thing was to "perserve the family unit."

based on the information we have been given so far and the criminal backgrounds of the individuals involved in roberts life, and the hospitalization of the mothers boyfriend, i actually believe that the mother did something to hurt robert and ended up killing him, and the boyfriend helped her cover it up and had a breakdown about it and he was hospitalized because of that.

i think the mother and boyfriend both need to be locked up. some people should not be allowed to have children.
To say that child protective services needs a complete overhaul seems like an understatement  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I'm wondering if the boyfriend attempted suicide?

I doubt it. They don't treat and release the same day for a suicide attempt. They usually hold you for at least 72 hours.

I agree about our court system. Overhaul is an understatement. No one is protecting these children. They give them back too soon or in cases where they should never be returned. They give visits when none should be allowed. They let parents who abuse off with a slap on the wrist and some "parenting classes".

It makes me so angry and I see it time and time again.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 08:06:20 PM
In another development, Ada County Sheriff's deputies staked out an area at the Hidden Hollow Landfill this afternoon. Police tape now marks off about one-half acre. A crime lab vehicle was at the scene.

Sheriff's spokeswoman Andrea Dearden says the deputies are assisting Boise Police in this investigation. At this point, they are just watching the area, no officers have been seen combing through any garbage.

A spokesman for Allied Waste says the trash in the marked off area came from the Oak Park Apartments, where the Manwills lived. It was dumped there on Saturday, the day after Robert disappeared.

A short time later, that same crime lab vehicle was parked outside at home on Southdale Avenue, just outside the Boise city limits. That's near the vicinity of Five Mile and Lake Hazel roads. Police are converging at that location.

The family that rents the home told us they know Robert, and that their Chevy Suburban was stolen last week. It has been retrieved but may now be part of this investigation.

Boise Police spokeswoman Lynn Hightower says deputies are on the scene to make sure the area is preserved for investigators. They don't want any possible evidence to become tainted. What that evidence may be, police are not saying at this point.

http://blogs.ktvb.com/breaking/2009/07/police-evidence-manwill-was-in.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on July 31, 2009, 08:14:32 PM
 ::MonkeyWaa:: I have tried to post three times tonight and keep getting kicked out of the cage.

To Robert, I am sorry, I didn't know you were missing or I would have been here immediately.  ::MonkeyWaa:: I pray your are safe.  ::MonkeyAngel:: JSM

 ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::

JSM is a bad monkey, not knowing about this poor little lad.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 08:16:01 PM
In another development, Ada County Sheriff's deputies staked out an area at the Hidden Hollow Landfill this afternoon. Police tape now marks off about one-half acre. A crime lab vehicle was at the scene.

Sheriff's spokeswoman Andrea Dearden says the deputies are assisting Boise Police in this investigation. At this point, they are just watching the area, no officers have been seen combing through any garbage.

A spokesman for Allied Waste says the trash in the marked off area came from the Oak Park Apartments, where the Manwills lived. It was dumped there on Saturday, the day after Robert disappeared.

A short time later, that same crime lab vehicle was parked outside at home on Southdale Avenue, just outside the Boise city limits. That's near the vicinity of Five Mile and Lake Hazel roads. Police are converging at that location.

The family that rents the home told us they know Robert, and that their Chevy Suburban was stolen last week. It has been retrieved but may now be part of this investigation.

Boise Police spokeswoman Lynn Hightower says deputies are on the scene to make sure the area is preserved for investigators. They don't want any possible evidence to become tainted. What that evidence may be, police are not saying at this point.

http://blogs.ktvb.com/breaking/2009/07/police-evidence-manwill-was-in.html


I wonder if it was something to do with this stolen SUV that tipped off BPD and why they searched the appartment last night.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: sunshine12 on July 31, 2009, 08:18:04 PM
In another development, Ada County Sheriff's deputies staked out an area at the Hidden Hollow Landfill this afternoon. Police tape now marks off about one-half acre. A crime lab vehicle was at the scene.

Sheriff's spokeswoman Andrea Dearden says the deputies are assisting Boise Police in this investigation. At this point, they are just watching the area, no officers have been seen combing through any garbage.

A spokesman for Allied Waste says the trash in the marked off area came from the Oak Park Apartments, where the Manwills lived. It was dumped there on Saturday, the day after Robert disappeared.

A short time later, that same crime lab vehicle was parked outside at home on Southdale Avenue, just outside the Boise city limits. That's near the vicinity of Five Mile and Lake Hazel roads. Police are converging at that location.

The family that rents the home told us they know Robert, and that their Chevy Suburban was stolen last week. It has been retrieved but may now be part of this investigation.

Boise Police spokeswoman Lynn Hightower says deputies are on the scene to make sure the area is preserved for investigators. They don't want any possible evidence to become tainted. What that evidence may be, police are not saying at this point.

http://blogs.ktvb.com/breaking/2009/07/police-evidence-manwill-was-in.html


this is strange...maybe the mother or boyfriend were trying to frame these people? i dont know, thats just weird that their car was stolen. i know cars get stolen, but your car gets stolen, you know the family of robert, and LE is descending on ur property...very strange.  i wonder who owns the property


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 08:20:03 PM
I wonder who lives there too. They are waiting for a warrant to search.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on July 31, 2009, 08:22:07 PM
In another development, Ada County Sheriff's deputies staked out an area at the Hidden Hollow Landfill this afternoon. Police tape now marks off about one-half acre. A crime lab vehicle was at the scene.

Sheriff's spokeswoman Andrea Dearden says the deputies are assisting Boise Police in this investigation. At this point, they are just watching the area, no officers have been seen combing through any garbage.

A spokesman for Allied Waste says the trash in the marked off area came from the Oak Park Apartments, where the Manwills lived. It was dumped there on Saturday, the day after Robert disappeared.

A short time later, that same crime lab vehicle was parked outside at home on Southdale Avenue, just outside the Boise city limits. That's near the vicinity of Five Mile and Lake Hazel roads. Police are converging at that location.

The family that rents the home told us they know Robert, and that their Chevy Suburban was stolen last week. It has been retrieved but may now be part of this investigation.

Boise Police spokeswoman Lynn Hightower says deputies are on the scene to make sure the area is preserved for investigators. They don't want any possible evidence to become tainted. What that evidence may be, police are not saying at this point.

http://blogs.ktvb.com/breaking/2009/07/police-evidence-manwill-was-in.html


this is strange...maybe the mother or boyfriend were trying to frame these people? i dont know, thats just weird that their car was stolen. i know cars get stolen, but your car gets stolen, you know the family of robert, and LE is descending on ur property...very strange.  i wonder who owns the property
Sunshine, I am very new to this case, just heard about it today.


My question is, did they call LE immediately after the suburban was stolen or are they saying NOW it was stolen and then recovered. TIA JSM


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 08:22:25 PM
I wonder who lives there too. They are waiting for a warrant to search.

6:17 p.m.

Investigators are searching the house on Southdale Avenue, looking for evidence that could be related to the disappearance of Robert Manwill

http://www.idahostatesman.com/235/story/851769.html?storylink=omni_popular&pageNum=15&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container

I think they may the search warrant now....hopefully


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on July 31, 2009, 08:24:11 PM
::MonkeyWaa:: I have tried to post three times tonight and keep getting kicked out of the cage.

To Robert, I am sorry, I didn't know you were missing or I would have been here immediately.  ::MonkeyWaa:: I pray your are safe.  ::MonkeyAngel:: JSM

 ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::

JSM is a bad monkey, not knowing about this poor little lad.

JSM, you are far from a bad monkey. It is hard to keep up with all these missing children and it is draining. It is astounding that so many children can disappear and a sad commentary on our society. Just keep praying for Robert.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 08:24:29 PM
In another development, Ada County Sheriff's deputies staked out an area at the Hidden Hollow Landfill this afternoon. Police tape now marks off about one-half acre. A crime lab vehicle was at the scene.

Sheriff's spokeswoman Andrea Dearden says the deputies are assisting Boise Police in this investigation. At this point, they are just watching the area, no officers have been seen combing through any garbage.

A spokesman for Allied Waste says the trash in the marked off area came from the Oak Park Apartments, where the Manwills lived. It was dumped there on Saturday, the day after Robert disappeared.

A short time later, that same crime lab vehicle was parked outside at home on Southdale Avenue, just outside the Boise city limits. That's near the vicinity of Five Mile and Lake Hazel roads. Police are converging at that location.

The family that rents the home told us they know Robert, and that their Chevy Suburban was stolen last week. It has been retrieved but may now be part of this investigation.

Boise Police spokeswoman Lynn Hightower says deputies are on the scene to make sure the area is preserved for investigators. They don't want any possible evidence to become tainted. What that evidence may be, police are not saying at this point.

http://blogs.ktvb.com/breaking/2009/07/police-evidence-manwill-was-in.html


this is strange...maybe the mother or boyfriend were trying to frame these people? i dont know, thats just weird that their car was stolen. i know cars get stolen, but your car gets stolen, you know the family of robert, and LE is descending on ur property...very strange.  i wonder who owns the property
Sunshine, I am very new to this case, just heard about it today.


My question is, did they call LE immediately after the suburban was stolen or are they saying NOW it was stolen and then recovered. TIA JSM


We don't know JSM. This is the first we have heard about a stolen SUV.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on July 31, 2009, 08:24:30 PM
::MonkeyWaa:: I have tried to post three times tonight and keep getting kicked out of the cage.

To Robert, I am sorry, I didn't know you were missing or I would have been here immediately.  ::MonkeyWaa:: I pray your are safe.  ::MonkeyAngel:: JSM

 ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::

JSM is a bad monkey, not knowing about this poor little lad.
JSM  ::MonkeyAngel::  it is impossible to keep up with all the horrible cases that are happening almost on a daily basis. It is sickening what is all going on.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: sunshine12 on July 31, 2009, 08:26:48 PM
jsm-i dont know the answer to your question, i'm sorry :(  i don't think that info has been made public but i think its an important piece to the puzzle as to why this house is being searched.  in order for them to have a search warrent they have to have some probable cause to go search the home...i hope they update the press with new developments as they come


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on July 31, 2009, 08:30:02 PM
jsm-i dont know the answer to your question, i'm sorry :(  i don't think that info has been made public but i think its an important piece to the puzzle as to why this house is being searched.  in order for them to have a search warrent they have to have some probable cause to go search the home...i hope they update the press with new developments as they come
This is very confusing  ::MonkeyConfused::  I'm almost wondering if the boyfriend or mother have said something to LE for them to go to the house?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on July 31, 2009, 08:33:40 PM
::MonkeyWaa:: I have tried to post three times tonight and keep getting kicked out of the cage.

To Robert, I am sorry, I didn't know you were missing or I would have been here immediately.  ::MonkeyWaa:: I pray your are safe.  ::MonkeyAngel:: JSM

 ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::

JSM is a bad monkey, not knowing about this poor little lad.

JSM, you are far from a bad monkey. It is hard to keep up with all these missing children and it is draining. It is astounding that so many children can disappear and a sad commentary on our society. Just keep praying for Robert.
I'm praying Fanny, just a little sad that a tiny boy has been missing and he was with his "mother" that had already bashed in a tiny baby's head.

My friend is going to court on Monday to get custodial rights of her nephew, no abuse, just neglect and drug addiction on the parent's part. My friend has been through h*ll with CPS wanting the kids to see their parents, etc. And it angers me to no end that Robert's mother had any contact with this little boy with her past history.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on July 31, 2009, 08:34:13 PM
In another development, Ada County Sheriff's deputies staked out an area at the Hidden Hollow Landfill this afternoon. Police tape now marks off about one-half acre. A crime lab vehicle was at the scene.

Sheriff's spokeswoman Andrea Dearden says the deputies are assisting Boise Police in this investigation. At this point, they are just watching the area, no officers have been seen combing through any garbage.

A spokesman for Allied Waste says the trash in the marked off area came from the Oak Park Apartments, where the Manwills lived. It was dumped there on Saturday, the day after Robert disappeared.

A short time later, that same crime lab vehicle was parked outside at home on Southdale Avenue, just outside the Boise city limits. That's near the vicinity of Five Mile and Lake Hazel roads. Police are converging at that location.

The family that rents the home told us they know Robert, and that their Chevy Suburban was stolen last week. It has been retrieved but may now be part of this investigation.

Boise Police spokeswoman Lynn Hightower says deputies are on the scene to make sure the area is preserved for investigators. They don't want any possible evidence to become tainted. What that evidence may be, police are not saying at this point.

http://blogs.ktvb.com/breaking/2009/07/police-evidence-manwill-was-in.html


this is strange...maybe the mother or boyfriend were trying to frame these people? i dont know, thats just weird that their car was stolen. i know cars get stolen, but your car gets stolen, you know the family of robert, and LE is descending on ur property...very strange.  i wonder who owns the property
Sunshine, I am very new to this case, just heard about it today.


My question is, did they call LE immediately after the suburban was stolen or are they saying NOW it was stolen and then recovered. TIA JSM


We don't know JSM. This is the first we have heard about a stolen SUV.
Thank you Pink Angel


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on July 31, 2009, 08:35:49 PM
::MonkeyWaa:: I have tried to post three times tonight and keep getting kicked out of the cage.

To Robert, I am sorry, I didn't know you were missing or I would have been here immediately.  ::MonkeyWaa:: I pray your are safe.  ::MonkeyAngel:: JSM

 ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::

JSM is a bad monkey, not knowing about this poor little lad.
JSM  ::MonkeyAngel::  it is impossible to keep up with all the horrible cases that are happening almost on a daily basis. It is sickening what is all going on.
I know No Rose, it is impossible, but it seems to be more and more that the parents or family had something to do with it. That is what makes me so angry and sad.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 08:37:38 PM
jsm-i dont know the answer to your question, i'm sorry :(  i don't think that info has been made public but i think its an important piece to the puzzle as to why this house is being searched.  in order for them to have a search warrent they have to have some probable cause to go search the home...i hope they update the press with new developments as they come

I think that the mom or boyfriend is talking...a little at a time...which is why all of the new developments.  Or maybe I just hope they are...


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on July 31, 2009, 08:37:49 PM
jsm-i dont know the answer to your question, i'm sorry :(  i don't think that info has been made public but i think its an important piece to the puzzle as to why this house is being searched.  in order for them to have a search warrent they have to have some probable cause to go search the home...i hope they update the press with new developments as they come
Thank you Sunshine. I am so behind on this I really appreciate your response. TIA JSM


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 08:42:17 PM
In another development, Ada County Sheriff's deputies staked out an area at the Hidden Hollow Landfill this afternoon. Police tape now marks off about one-half acre. A crime lab vehicle was at the scene.

Sheriff's spokeswoman Andrea Dearden says the deputies are assisting Boise Police in this investigation. At this point, they are just watching the area, no officers have been seen combing through any garbage.

A spokesman for Allied Waste says the trash in the marked off area came from the Oak Park Apartments, where the Manwills lived. It was dumped there on Saturday, the day after Robert disappeared.

A short time later, that same crime lab vehicle was parked outside at home on Southdale Avenue, just outside the Boise city limits. That's near the vicinity of Five Mile and Lake Hazel roads. Police are converging at that location.

The family that rents the home told us they know Robert, and that their Chevy Suburban was stolen last week. It has been retrieved but may now be part of this investigation.

Boise Police spokeswoman Lynn Hightower says deputies are on the scene to make sure the area is preserved for investigators. They don't want any possible evidence to become tainted. What that evidence may be, police are not saying at this point.

http://blogs.ktvb.com/breaking/2009/07/police-evidence-manwill-was-in.html


I wonder if it was something to do with this stolen SUV that tipped off BPD and why they searched the appartment last night.

I have updated the location of C based on teh above information : home on Southdale Avenue, just outside the Boise city limits. That's near the vicinity of Five Mile and Lake Hazel roads.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 08:42:27 PM
jsm-i dont know the answer to your question, i'm sorry :(  i don't think that info has been made public but i think its an important piece to the puzzle as to why this house is being searched.  in order for them to have a search warrent they have to have some probable cause to go search the home...i hope they update the press with new developments as they come
This is very confusing  ::MonkeyConfused::  I'm almost wondering if the boyfriend or mother have said something to LE for them to go to the house?

something led them there.
wish we had a name or an address or something.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 08:43:37 PM
jsm-i dont know the answer to your question, i'm sorry :(  i don't think that info has been made public but i think its an important piece to the puzzle as to why this house is being searched.  in order for them to have a search warrent they have to have some probable cause to go search the home...i hope they update the press with new developments as they come

I think that the mom or boyfriend is talking...a little at a time...which is why all of the new developments.  Or maybe I just hope they are...

the reports said neither Mom nor Boyfriend were at the news conference today...hmmmmm


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 08:45:43 PM

I'm praying Fanny, just a little sad that a tiny boy has been missing and he was with his "mother" that had already bashed in a tiny baby's head.

My friend is going to court on Monday to get custodial rights of her nephew, no abuse, just neglect and drug addiction on the parent's part. My friend has been through h*ll with CPS wanting the kids to see their parents, etc. And it angers me to no end that Robert's mother had any contact with this little boy with her past history.

You have to wonder what these courts are thinking sometimes.  My nephews dad accused my sister and I of doing drugs in front of my nephew...simply accused us...and the judge has now ordered ME to take random drug tests as a condition of the custody arrangement!  I am fine with doing so because I do not use any drugs and actually I am happy that this judge is being proactive in making sure my nephews best interests come FIRST! 

Here you have a mother that was charged, not accused, of harming a child and yet she gets a slap on the wrist and now look where we are   ::MonkeyNoNo::   


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 08:45:59 PM
NG is talking about the case right now.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 08:47:19 PM
Thank you Northern Rose.


Nancy Grace:
More than 2,000 volunteers search today.
The renters of the house had a SUV that was stolen and returned. They know Robert. That's all the info he has (the reporter) has gleemed.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 08:49:23 PM
Reporter on NG said that during the search of Mom and Bf's apt last night there were cars taken.  He used the plural several times.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 08:49:53 PM
jsm-i dont know the answer to your question, i'm sorry :(  i don't think that info has been made public but i think its an important piece to the puzzle as to why this house is being searched.  in order for them to have a search warrent they have to have some probable cause to go search the home...i hope they update the press with new developments as they come

I think that the mom or boyfriend is talking...a little at a time...which is why all of the new developments.  Or maybe I just hope they are...

the reports said neither Mom nor Boyfriend were at the news conference today...hmmmmm

Yup, they were not. Dad was there with his wife Anton, his older son, his brother (a girlfriend or wife of one of them) and Aunt Trish.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on July 31, 2009, 08:50:22 PM
Reporter on NG just said they talked to the owner and she rents the house to someone who knows Robert's mom and stepdad.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 08:50:57 PM
Reporter on NG said that during the search of Mom and Bf's apt last night there were cars taken.  He used the plural several times.

That is odd because all the news reports today said one red SUV was taken.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 08:51:48 PM
Missing Boise boy 'may be the victim of a tragic event'

BOISE - Authorities say they now believe Robert Manwill's disappearance is based on "suspicious circumstances."
Jim Kerns, Boise Police deputy police chief, said Friday Robert is still missing but he may be injured.

"Overnight, we located evidence that may bring us closer to finding out what happened to Robert," Kerns said at a Friday news conference. "The evidence we've uncovered shows there are suspicious circumstances regarding Robert's disappearance."

"He may be the victim of a tragic event."

Friday's massive volunteer search for the boy will continue.

Just after 8 p.m. on Thursday, detectives started searching the complex including the apartment belonging to Robert’s mom, Melissa Jenkins.

It's now been a week since 8-year-old Robert has gone missing. On Friday, authorities and more than 1,600 volunteers have been searching for the missing boy.

Police would not say what they were searching for, what they removed, or why the search is happening now. However, it has been confirmed that K9 units were brought in to help with the investigation.
"(The community) response to find the missing little boy has been incredible," Kerns said.

Manwill went missing from the Oak Park Village apartment complex in Boise last Friday at about 10 p.m.

Police had initially believed the boy may have gone to an unknown friend's house for a party, but that was ruled out as a possibility.

This week, Jim Kerns, Boise Police deputy police chief, said they were following hundreds of leads including interviewing registered sex offenders in Boise.

And on late Thursday, authorities did an extensive search into the apartment complex where Robert was last seen. That search included seizing items from Robert's mother's apartment. They also towed her red SUV. Police did not elaborate why they searched her apartment.

"This is the most important investigation we've had in a long time," said Michael Masterson, Boise Police chief.

http://www.2news.tv/news/local/52202712.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
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Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 08:54:53 PM
6:38 p.m.

More than 2,300 volunteers turned out to search today.

"The search was extremely helpful," she said. Specific areas of interest now have to be searched by trained investigators.

"Developing leads" led police to the house on Southdale where investigators have converged Friday evening.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/235/story/851769.html?storylink=omni_popular&pageNum=15&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 08:55:36 PM
A closer look at Southdale and the area that the other house is located.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 08:57:08 PM
Reporter on NG said that during the search of Mom and Bf's apt last night there were cars taken.  He used the plural several times.

That is odd because all the news reports today said one red SUV was taken.

That is why it caught my attention that he kept saying carS.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 08:57:55 PM
Thanks for the maps NoRose.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 08:58:13 PM
(http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2009/07/31/00/984-0731_local_search_dog.standalone.prod_affiliate.36.jpg)

Re-posting a picture of Kiwi searching last night.

He's such a pretty dog.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 09:00:47 PM
Thanks to everyone posting updates and maps.

I hope Robert is found and brought home to his Daddy.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on July 31, 2009, 09:03:50 PM
Thanks to everyone posting updates and maps.

I hope Robert is found and brought home to his Daddy.
I second that, and also for the pic of that cute dog Kiwi.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 09:11:16 PM
6:38 p.m.

More than 2,300 volunteers turned out to search today.

"The search was extremely helpful," she said. Specific areas of interest now have to be searched by trained investigators.

"Developing leads" led police to the house on Southdale where investigators have converged Friday evening.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/boise/story/851769.html

It is nice to see the community and surrounding areas come together to find this child.  God Bless everyone who is helping.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Toler on July 31, 2009, 09:28:41 PM
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To: Domandred
I have a daughter who has baby sat this child. Several years ago.
A really sad and tragic family circumstance.

I have always wondered how a woman could wilfully crack the skull of her own young child, and then get 29 days of work release, fined $75.50 and put on probation for two years. That's the mother of this child and that's what she did to one of her other children

She could not have full custody and only had visitation rights. The husband, who is a veteran and by all accounts a decent person, has full custody of this boy. This occurred when the child was supposed to be with the mother...but my understanding is that she had gone somewhere and left him with the "boyfriend".

The boyfriend himself has multiple entries on his record, including burglary, battery and possession of drug paraphernalia, and he legally cannot be near the woman's other daughter...but the record on that case is sealed.

He is the one who said that the little boy wanted to go to a friends to some kind of party, but he wouldn't let him go, but did let him play alone outside and then later noticed he was gone. This was last week and the child has just dissappeared.

My guess, is his story is under minute scrutiny as to when someone other than him actually last saw the boy...and exactly where the mother was the entire time.

Very tragic envent here in the Boise area. Big search went on today all over the area where he went missing. Over 1,000 searching.

LATEST BOISE POLICE UPDATE - SUSPICIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES, ROBERT MAY BE VICTIM OF TRAGIC EVENT


9 posted on Friday, July 31, 2009 6:38:35 PM by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on July 31, 2009, 09:49:10 PM

I'm praying Fanny, just a little sad that a tiny boy has been missing and he was with his "mother" that had already bashed in a tiny baby's head.

My friend is going to court on Monday to get custodial rights of her nephew, no abuse, just neglect and drug addiction on the parent's part. My friend has been through h*ll with CPS wanting the kids to see their parents, etc. And it angers me to no end that Robert's mother had any contact with this little boy with her past history.

You have to wonder what these courts are thinking sometimes.  My nephews dad accused my sister and I of doing drugs in front of my nephew...simply accused us...and the judge has now ordered ME to take random drug tests as a condition of the custody arrangement!  I am fine with doing so because I do not use any drugs and actually I am happy that this judge is being proactive in making sure my nephews best interests come FIRST! 

Here you have a mother that was charged, not accused, of harming a child and yet she gets a slap on the wrist and now look where we are   ::MonkeyNoNo::   
The CPS here is all about keeping the family together. No matter if dad is in jail and mom is laid up in the bed zonked out from who knows what kind of drugs.

I'm glad you are keeping your nephew's best interest at heart. I will say a prayer for y'all Leroy. JSM


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on July 31, 2009, 09:58:33 PM
What I do not understand and never have, if there are 2,300 people in Boise, Id that are willing to come out and look for this child, that means there are a lot of good people in this area. It is like this all over the country. There are a lot more good people that want to do the right thing than there are bad. So how is it, that all this stuff can happen to kids all over the country??
How is it that the bad and evil, out weighs the good and decent? It is a conundrum that I have never been able to figure out.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 10:02:45 PM
What I do not understand and never have, if there are 2,300 people in Boise, Id that are willing to come out and look for this child, that means there are a lot of good people in this area. It is like this all over the country. There are a lot more good people that want to do the right thing than there are bad. So how is it, that all this stuff can happen to kids all over the country??
How is it that the bad and evil, out weighs the good and decent? It is a conundrum that I have never been able to figure out.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I hear ya Fanny...makes no sense.  However, one bad seed doesn't make the whole bunch rotten as Boise has certainly proven.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Edward on July 31, 2009, 10:07:46 PM
A post from freerepublic.com

To: Domandred
I have a daughter who has baby sat this child. Several years ago.
A really sad and tragic family circumstance.

I have always wondered how a woman could wilfully crack the skull of her own young child, and then get 29 days of work release, fined $75.50 and put on probation for two years. That's the mother of this child and that's what she did to one of her other children

She could not have full custody and only had visitation rights. The husband, who is a veteran and by all accounts a decent person, has full custody of this boy. This occurred when the child was supposed to be with the mother...but my understanding is that she had gone somewhere and left him with the "boyfriend".

The boyfriend himself has multiple entries on his record, including burglary, battery and possession of drug paraphernalia, and he legally cannot be near the woman's other daughter...but the record on that case is sealed.

He is the one who said that the little boy wanted to go to a friends to some kind of party, but he wouldn't let him go, but did let him play alone outside and then later noticed he was gone. This was last week and the child has just dissappeared.

My guess, is his story is under minute scrutiny as to when someone other than him actually last saw the boy...and exactly where the mother was the entire time.

Very tragic envent here in the Boise area. Big search went on today all over the area where he went missing. Over 1,000 searching.

LATEST BOISE POLICE UPDATE - SUSPICIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES, ROBERT MAY BE VICTIM OF TRAGIC EVENT


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He sounds like a good suspect ... Last one to have seen the victim, A boyfriends and NOT the real father..
Mom was/is attracted to a badboy ??? He may not like the real father ?
Anyways it is speculation..


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 10:10:25 PM
A post from freerepublic.com

To: Domandred
I have a daughter who has baby sat this child. Several years ago.
A really sad and tragic family circumstance.

I have always wondered how a woman could wilfully crack the skull of her own young child, and then get 29 days of work release, fined $75.50 and put on probation for two years. That's the mother of this child and that's what she did to one of her other children

She could not have full custody and only had visitation rights. The husband, who is a veteran and by all accounts a decent person, has full custody of this boy. This occurred when the child was supposed to be with the mother...but my understanding is that she had gone somewhere and left him with the "boyfriend".

The boyfriend himself has multiple entries on his record, including burglary, battery and possession of drug paraphernalia, and he legally cannot be near the woman's other daughter...but the record on that case is sealed.

He is the one who said that the little boy wanted to go to a friends to some kind of party, but he wouldn't let him go, but did let him play alone outside and then later noticed he was gone. This was last week and the child has just dissappeared.

My guess, is his story is under minute scrutiny as to when someone other than him actually last saw the boy...and exactly where the mother was the entire time.

Very tragic envent here in the Boise area. Big search went on today all over the area where he went missing. Over 1,000 searching.

LATEST BOISE POLICE UPDATE - SUSPICIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES, ROBERT MAY BE VICTIM OF TRAGIC EVENT


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He sounds like a good suspect ... Last one to have seen the victim, A boyfriends and NOT the real father..
Mom was/is attracted to a badboy ??? He may not like the real father ?
Anyways it is speculation..

I agree Edward...the mom's history of abusing children makes me think she has something to do with it too.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: sunshine12 on July 31, 2009, 10:29:45 PM
the last case i had before i left my previous job in CPS was the case of a child that was killed at the hands of the mothers boyfriend.  the mother was at work and the boyfriend broke the child's neck and then threw him down the stairs to make it look like an accident.  the reason cps was involved was b/c there was an infant in the home at the time and the agency needed to insure the safety of that child...

let me just say, that at the hospital, the boyfriend/killer/monster..was vomiting perfusely and tried to say that it was an accident...the mother continues to defend this boyfriend till this day. it's SICKENING.

i wish i could say we are searching for an alive child in this case but i think it's pretty clear the police are looking for this little angel's body. going on that assumption i would say that i doubt this child's murder would be planned, but i do think the mother and boyfriend conspired afterwards to point the finger elsewhere and make it look like an abduction... i am sick to my stomach.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: lady on July 31, 2009, 10:32:03 PM
Sure wish we could get some news on what all went down at that house they were searching..


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 10:35:27 PM
Sure wish we could get some news on what all went down at that house they were searching..

ughh, i know!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 10:37:14 PM
the last case i had before i left my previous job in CPS was the case of a child that was killed at the hands of the mothers boyfriend.  the mother was at work and the boyfriend broke the child's neck and then threw him down the stairs to make it look like an accident.  the reason cps was involved was b/c there was an infant in the home at the time and the agency needed to insure the safety of that child...

let me just say, that at the hospital, the boyfriend/killer/monster..was vomiting perfusely and tried to say that it was an accident...the mother continues to defend this boyfriend till this day. it's SICKENING.

i wish i could say we are searching for an alive child in this case but i think it's pretty clear the police are looking for this little angel's body. going on that assumption i would say that i doubt this child's murder would be planned, but i do think the mother and boyfriend conspired afterwards to point the finger elsewhere and make it look like an abduction... i am sick to my stomach.

Yep, i think they are trying to make it look like an abduction...and so much of me wishes it really was....then there is hope that this little guy is still alive.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on July 31, 2009, 10:47:34 PM
the last case i had before i left my previous job in CPS was the case of a child that was killed at the hands of the mothers boyfriend.  the mother was at work and the boyfriend broke the child's neck and then threw him down the stairs to make it look like an accident.  the reason cps was involved was b/c there was an infant in the home at the time and the agency needed to insure the safety of that child...

let me just say, that at the hospital, the boyfriend/killer/monster..was vomiting perfusely and tried to say that it was an accident...the mother continues to defend this boyfriend till this day. it's SICKENING.

i wish i could say we are searching for an alive child in this case but i think it's pretty clear the police are looking for this little angel's body. going on that assumption i would say that i doubt this child's murder would be planned, but i do think the mother and boyfriend conspired afterwards to point the finger elsewhere and make it look like an abduction... i am sick to my stomach.

I was a LE dispatcher at one point in my life married to a LE. I was there 10+yrs and I left after seeing things, and hearing stories just like you are talking about. It wears you down, frustrates you, and the judicial system just doesn't seem to help.

I am sorry to say that from all indications, this is not going to have a happy ending. I am sick myself.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 10:51:15 PM
8:44 p.m.

Crime scene investigators have brought buckets and shovels into the backyard of the home at the 6600 block of Southdale Drive.

Also, they have set up a canopy with walls in the yard.


http://www.idahostatesman.com/235/story/851769.html?storylink=omni_popular&pageNum=18&&&&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container

 ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 10:52:03 PM
<snipped>

Court records show a history of family tragedies involving young children.

Jenkins pleaded guilty in March to a misdemeanor charge of injury to a child following an October 2008 incident that fractured her infant son's skull.

Jenkins "did willfully inflict" the injury to her other son "by striking the child's head on a surface, causing a fracture to the child's skull," on Oct. 19, 2008. She was sentenced to 29 days of work release, fined $75.50 and put on probation for two years, according to court documents.

That child is the son of Jenkins' boyfriend, Daniel Edward Ehrlick. The boy was in the care of the state Department of Health and Welfare through at least February, according to court documents. The agency will not release his whereabouts, citing policy.

Jenkins has a third child, a 2-year-old daughter fathered by a third man, who has custody of her. Jenkins has visitation rights. Ehrlick, who has been convicted of burglary, battery and possession of drug paraphernalia, is banned from being alone with the girl, but court documents don't say why.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/531/story/852051.html

I do not understand with the violence against children that either can be near a child


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on July 31, 2009, 10:54:38 PM
8:44 p.m.

Crime scene investigators have brought buckets and shovels into the backyard of the home at the 6600 block of Southdale Drive.

Also, they have set up a canopy with walls in the yard.


http://www.idahostatesman.com/235/story/851769.html?storylink=omni_popular&pageNum=18&&&&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container

 ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::

OH GOD!!   ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 11:06:18 PM
I wish we had more info on who's house this is.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: sunshine12 on July 31, 2009, 11:07:28 PM
8:44 p.m.

Crime scene investigators have brought buckets and shovels into the backyard of the home at the 6600 block of Southdale Drive.

Also, they have set up a canopy with walls in the yard.


http://www.idahostatesman.com/235/story/851769.html?storylink=omni_popular&pageNum=18&&&&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container

 ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::

this is bad, i feel like im going to vomit... saying prayers for robert right now  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 11:08:28 PM
8:44 p.m.

Crime scene investigators have brought buckets and shovels into the backyard of the home at the 6600 block of Southdale Drive.

Also, they have set up a canopy with walls in the yard.


http://www.idahostatesman.com/235/story/851769.html?storylink=omni_popular&pageNum=18&&&&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container

 ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::

OH GOD!!   ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

I knew that was coming when I heard on CBS2 earlier that a tent was being set up. You set up a tent for outdoors forensics.

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Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 11:12:48 PM
8:44 p.m.

Crime scene investigators have brought buckets and shovels into the backyard of the home at the 6600 block of Southdale Drive.

Also, they have set up a canopy with walls in the yard.


http://www.idahostatesman.com/235/story/851769.html?storylink=omni_popular&pageNum=18&&&&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container

 ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::

OH GOD!!   ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

I knew that was coming when I heard on CBS2 earlier that a tent was being set up. You set up a tent for outdoors forensics.

(http://www.desktopexchange.com/gallery/albums/Big_emoticons/Crying.gif)

this is not sounding good at all...i'm so confused though as to why he would be at this house. 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 11:16:13 PM
RUMOR ALERT -- a poster at the Idahostateman said the mom's boyfriend was in the hosptial for a drug overdose. 

I'm not sure I believe that because wouldnt that be considered a suicide attempt and then they would have not released him so soon?  Who knows I guess


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 11:17:41 PM
RUMOR ALERT -- a poster at the Idahostateman said the mom's boyfriend was in the hosptial for a drug overdose. 

I'm not sure I believe that because wouldnt that be considered a suicide attempt and then they would have not released him so soon?  Who knows I guess

I meant to add that it would make a lot of sense though.....and if he had any part in harming this poor little guy, I certainly hope he doesnt *get off* that easy!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on July 31, 2009, 11:18:31 PM
I wish we had more info on who's house this is.


If it really is ONLY the 6600 block of Southdale,
this should help as there are only 6 ::MonkeyTongue::

R2909530010 2009 6673 S SOUTHDALE AVE BOISE ID 83709
R2909530015 2009 6629 S SOUTHDALE AVE BOISE ID 83709
R2909530020 2009 6605 S SOUTHDALE AVE BOISE ID 83709
R2909530105 2009 6606 S SOUTHDALE AVE BOISE ID 83709
R2909530110 2009 6630 S SOUTHDALE AVE BOISE ID 83709
R2909530115 2009 6674 S SOUTHDALE AVE BOISE ID 83709


http://www.adacountyassessor.org/propsys/AddressSearch.do?d-49653-p=2&year=2009&address=6600+southdale

There are photos of the homes on this link also so if anyone knows kind of what the house looks like, this will help


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 11:18:53 PM
I wish we had more info on who's house this is.


The address is 6630 Southdale.  I just found it!

picture from
http://www.idahostatesman.com/235/story/851769.html?storylink=omni_popular&pageNum=18&&&&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 11:20:40 PM
Here is streetview from google.  Same siding, same carriage hinges on gate, same camper in back yard.  http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&tab=wl


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on July 31, 2009, 11:21:20 PM
RUMOR ALERT -- a poster at the Idahostateman said the mom's boyfriend was in the hosptial for a drug overdose. 

I'm not sure I believe that because wouldnt that be considered a suicide attempt and then they would have not released him so soon?  Who knows I guess

Is there any confirmation that he is released, or released to the police?
If he is not at the hospital, it doesn't mean he is home. They could just be holding him at this point. Sometimes LE can hold someone without arresting them for a certain period of time. I don't know exactly how the Idaho laws are.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 11:21:53 PM
There is a Steven Jenkins on Southdale. 7200. I don't know if he is related to Melissa. It's possible he is and this is his house.

::shakes head::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: sunshine12 on July 31, 2009, 11:22:17 PM
RUMOR ALERT -- a poster at the Idahostateman said the mom's boyfriend was in the hosptial for a drug overdose. 

I'm not sure I believe that because wouldnt that be considered a suicide attempt and then they would have not released him so soon?  Who knows I guess

sometimes they will release people on drug o/ds if the patient claims it was an accident...many times hospitals will give people that od on opiates a shot on narcan, monitor them, and then send them on their way.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on July 31, 2009, 11:24:47 PM
I wish we had more info on who's house this is.


The address is 6630 Southdale.  I just found it!

picture from
http://www.idahostatesman.com/235/story/851769.html?storylink=omni_popular&pageNum=18&&&&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container


Thanks NR~That oddly enough was the one I clicked on ::MonkeyConfused:: here is a photo of the front


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 11:25:11 PM
oops didn't see all the new posting. Let me see if I can find who lives there.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 11:27:18 PM
Here is a compare of 6630 Southdale Ave and the image from the article.
-camper
-siding
-carriage hinges on gate swinging the same way


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 11:28:53 PM
RUMOR ALERT -- a poster at the Idahostateman said the mom's boyfriend was in the hosptial for a drug overdose. 

I'm not sure I believe that because wouldnt that be considered a suicide attempt and then they would have not released him so soon?  Who knows I guess

Is there any confirmation that he is released, or released to the police?
If he is not at the hospital, it doesn't mean he is home. They could just be holding him at this point. Sometimes LE can hold someone without arresting them for a certain period of time. I don't know exactly how the Idaho laws are.

The hospital confirmed he was released. At five the police confirmed to CBS2 that mom and BF were not under arrest. Whether they are in custody...don't know. :)


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Bearlyhere on July 31, 2009, 11:30:13 PM


So child abusers can raise children now, with the court's blessing, after a slap on the wrist.  What next, giving them taffies?

 :2ukli:





Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 11:31:05 PM
Here is a compare of 6630 Southdale Ave and the image from the article.
-camper
-siding
-carriage hinges on gate swinging the same way

2 different campers isn't it?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 11:32:49 PM
nevermind, i am drunk.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on July 31, 2009, 11:32:55 PM
I wish we had more info on who's house this is.


The address is 6630 Southdale.  I just found it!

picture from
http://www.idahostatesman.com/235/story/851769.html?storylink=omni_popular&pageNum=18&&&&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container


Thanks NR~That oddly enough was the one I clicked on ::MonkeyConfused:: here is a photo of the front

Well, the picture on the tax appraiser site doesn't look like the other picture???


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 11:35:05 PM
I wish we had more info on who's house this is.


The address is 6630 Southdale.  I just found it!

picture from
http://www.idahostatesman.com/235/story/851769.html?storylink=omni_popular&pageNum=18&&&&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container


Thanks NR~That oddly enough was the one I clicked on ::MonkeyConfused:: here is a photo of the front

Well, the picture on the tax appraiser site doesn't look like the other picture???

that is strange   ::MonkeyConfused:: 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 11:35:56 PM
Forgot to mention same trellis on the side of the house as well.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 11:38:28 PM
Here is a compare of 6630 Southdale Ave and the image from the article.
-camper
-siding
-carriage hinges on gate swinging the same way

2 different campers isn't it?

Looks exactly like the same camper but i think the camper in the google photo is in the neighbors back yard...to me it looks like the privacy fence is connected to the other house.  the pic where the investigators are walking in looks like the privacy fence is connected right to the house in question...i dont know, i'm drunk too...LOL


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 11:40:20 PM
Gloria C Barriatua

   1. 6630 Southdale Ave
   2. Boise, ID
   3. 
   4. Household: Ray D Barriatua


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 11:42:32 PM
Ok now that is weird, when I did a zoom in to see if there were numbers on the front of the house I saw nothing.  Google map is coming up with 6630 as the overlay.  Then I went to the house on the other side of the street from it to see if that house has numbers and Google map still said 6630.   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on July 31, 2009, 11:43:20 PM
NoRose - thank you so much for posting the photos!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on July 31, 2009, 11:49:53 PM
Ok now that is weird, when I did a zoom in to see if there were numbers on the front of the house I saw nothing.  Google map is coming up with 6630 as the overlay.  Then I went to the house on the other side of the street from it to see if that house has numbers and Google map still said 6630.   ::MonkeyConfused::

I know when I google my address it's off by about 4 houses ::MonkeyConfused::

BUT, this blue house in the tax site looks like the house in your photos (only painted), it's 6629


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 11:50:11 PM
yes thank you NoRose.

Perhaps you can double check with bing.com maps. See what that gives you.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 11:51:56 PM
this is so frustration, why do people not put house numbers on the front of their houses?



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 11:52:05 PM
Jennifer Whitman

   1. 6629 Southdale Ave
   2. Boise, ID
   3.   


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on July 31, 2009, 11:55:11 PM
this is so frustration, why do people not put house numbers on the front of their houses?



Here is the tax appraiser link again with all 6 homes in the 6600 block, you can even zoom in and see the lot's etc.


picture from
http://www.idahostatesman.com/235/story/851769.html?storylink=omni_popular&pageNum=18&&&&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container




Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on July 31, 2009, 11:55:40 PM
Ok now that is weird, when I did a zoom in to see if there were numbers on the front of the house I saw nothing.  Google map is coming up with 6630 as the overlay.  Then I went to the house on the other side of the street from it to see if that house has numbers and Google map still said 6630.   ::MonkeyConfused::

I know when I google my address it's off by about 4 houses ::MonkeyConfused::

BUT, this blue house in the tax site looks like the house in your photos (only painted), it's 6629

This blue house looks to be the right one.  The shrubs have grown some though, but on the now beige house they are all in the correct place just bigger, windows are the same and so is roofline.  They painted it.  Let me check 6629 on bing maps.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on July 31, 2009, 11:56:16 PM
Jennifer Whitman

   1. 6629 Southdale Ave
   2. Boise, ID
   3.   

Thanks fo all the info PA & NR  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on July 31, 2009, 11:56:16 PM
this is so frustration, why do people not put house numbers on the front of their houses?



::hangs head in shame::

you sound just like my pizza delivery guy.

i just redid the siding. i bought them, just haven't hung them yet.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on July 31, 2009, 11:58:14 PM
Ok now that is weird, when I did a zoom in to see if there were numbers on the front of the house I saw nothing.  Google map is coming up with 6630 as the overlay.  Then I went to the house on the other side of the street from it to see if that house has numbers and Google map still said 6630.   ::MonkeyConfused::

I know when I google my address it's off by about 4 houses ::MonkeyConfused::

BUT, this blue house in the tax site looks like the house in your photos (only painted), it's 6629

This blue house looks to be the right one.  The shrubs have grown some though, but on the now beige house they are all in the correct place just bigger, windows are the same and so is roofline.  They painted it.  Let me check 6629 on bing maps.

It's kinda vague, but look at one of lot's from an ariel view, one has about 13 what looks like junk cars in the back yard ::MonkeyTongue::


I think the photos on the tax site are the correct parcels, just old photos .......


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 12:03:07 AM
Ok now that is weird, when I did a zoom in to see if there were numbers on the front of the house I saw nothing.  Google map is coming up with 6630 as the overlay.  Then I went to the house on the other side of the street from it to see if that house has numbers and Google map still said 6630.   ::MonkeyConfused::

I know when I google my address it's off by about 4 houses ::MonkeyConfused::

BUT, this blue house in the tax site looks like the house in your photos (only painted), it's 6629

This blue house looks to be the right one.  The shrubs have grown some though, but on the now beige house they are all in the correct place just bigger, windows are the same and so is roofline.  They painted it.  Let me check 6629 on bing maps.

It's kinda vague, but look at one of lot's from an ariel view, one has about 13 what looks like junk cars in the back yard ::MonkeyTongue::


I think the photos on the tax site are the correct parcels, just old photos .......

I agree.  Here is the compare of 6629 and the house that matches the one from the article.  The trees are grown but in the right place.  IMO it is 6629 with a new paintjob.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on August 01, 2009, 12:04:56 AM
Ok now that is weird, when I did a zoom in to see if there were numbers on the front of the house I saw nothing.  Google map is coming up with 6630 as the overlay.  Then I went to the house on the other side of the street from it to see if that house has numbers and Google map still said 6630.   ::MonkeyConfused::

I know when I google my address it's off by about 4 houses ::MonkeyConfused::

BUT, this blue house in the tax site looks like the house in your photos (only painted), it's 6629

This blue house looks to be the right one.  The shrubs have grown some though, but on the now beige house they are all in the correct place just bigger, windows are the same and so is roofline.  They painted it.  Let me check 6629 on bing maps.

It's kinda vague, but look at one of lot's from an ariel view, one has about 13 what looks like junk cars in the back yard ::MonkeyTongue::


I think the photos on the tax site are the correct parcels, just old photos .......

I agree.  Here is the compare of 6629 and the house that matches the one from the article.  The trees are grown but in the right place.  IMO it is 6629 with a new paintjob.



Even down to the stain coming down from the pipe on the roof........


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 12:06:20 AM
http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=r7qd5v596g2b&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&scene=20889123&encType=1



Arial view of house.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 12:08:06 AM
It's the one on the right with all the junk in the yard.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 12:11:18 AM
Here is the shot from Bing maps of 6629.  The camper is in their property as you can see the fence running beside it.  What a lovely yard.  So who lives in 6629 Southdale Ave?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: lady on August 01, 2009, 12:12:50 AM
Geez ....looks like a junkyard.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 12:13:43 AM
this is so frustration, why do people not put house numbers on the front of their houses?



::hangs head in shame::

you sound just like my pizza delivery guy.

i just redid the siding. i bought them, just haven't hung them yet.

I am so sorry PA.  Did not mean to make you feel bad.  I have chocolate brown posts in the front of my house and my numbers are black.  I might as well not have numbers at all!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on August 01, 2009, 12:14:48 AM
Here is the shot from Bing maps of 6629.  The camper is in their property as you can see the fence running beside it.  What a lovely yard.  So who lives in 6629 Southdale Ave?

Thanks for posting those NR~I have no clue how to post from the map sites ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 12:16:16 AM
If you go to the link I posted, you can zoom in and out, and move around the property.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 12:17:59 AM
Thank you NoRose, islandmonkey and Fanny.

(http://i32.tinypic.com/fk39q9.jpg)

I cropped it.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on August 01, 2009, 12:18:39 AM
If you go to the link I posted, you can zoom in and out, and move around the property.

Thanks Fanny


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 12:19:03 AM
http://www.realtor.com/property-detail/6629-Southdale-Ave_Boise_ID_83709_dc732500


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on August 01, 2009, 12:19:39 AM
Thank you NoRose, islandmonkey and Fanny.

(http://i32.tinypic.com/fk39q9.jpg)

I cropped it.

Wow~that is one scary yard ::MonkeyNoNo:: I'd hate to be their neighbors ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 12:20:50 AM
Jennifer Whitman according to Whitepages.com

There is no number listed, so I am guessing it's unlisted.

Intellus shows a Jennifer Whitman who is 29 with a relative named Mark Whitman. I don't know if it's the same Jennifer.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: lady on August 01, 2009, 12:21:51 AM
http://blogs.ktvb.com/breaking/2009/07/police-evidence-manwill-was-in.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 12:22:19 AM
Yard from all angels. They have small children based on the kiddie pool and small plastic rid em car in the front.  Thanks for posting the link Fanny.  I was so excited I found the house I forgot.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on August 01, 2009, 12:24:57 AM
Jennifer Whitman according to Whitepages.com

There is no number listed, so I am guessing it's unlisted.

Intellus shows a Jennifer Whitman who is 29 with a relative named Mark Whitman. I don't know if it's the same Jennifer.

I searched the county records and they aren't online:

Where can I find owner names on the website?
For privacy reasons, owner names will not be displayed on the website. You will need to contact the Ada County Assessor's Office at (208) 287-7262 or visit our office located at 200 W. Front St., Boise, Idaho where our friendly front counter staff will be happy to assist you


That's a surprise, here you can look up any property and find out the sale price, the mortgage and even the freaking interest rate ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 12:27:01 AM
Jennifer Whitman according to Whitepages.com

There is no number listed, so I am guessing it's unlisted.

Intellus shows a Jennifer Whitman who is 29 with a relative named Mark Whitman. I don't know if it's the same Jennifer.

I searched the county records and they aren't online:

Where can I find owner names on the website?
For privacy reasons, owner names will not be displayed on the website. You will need to contact the Ada County Assessor's Office at (208) 287-7262 or visit our office located at 200 W. Front St., Boise, Idaho where our friendly front counter staff will be happy to assist you


That's a surprise, here you can look up any property and find out the sale price, the mortgage and even the freaking interest rate ::MonkeyTongue::

They rent, so the owner name would do us no good anyhow. Thanks for trying!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 12:27:01 AM
http://blogs.ktvb.com/breaking/2009/07/police-evidence-manwill-was-in.html

Lady this link will not work for me


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on August 01, 2009, 12:27:54 AM
http://blogs.ktvb.com/breaking/2009/07/police-evidence-manwill-was-in.html

lady~I can't pull that site up  ::MonkeyConfused:: probably because the darn cat just ran across the laptop and now it's acting up..........what does it say??????

Thanks,

IM


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 12:27:58 AM
Their website is down. They have been having issues all day. Hell of a day to be down huh?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cartfly on August 01, 2009, 12:28:41 AM
Thank you NoRose, islandmonkey and Fanny.

(http://i32.tinypic.com/fk39q9.jpg)

I cropped it.

Wow~that is one scary yard ::MonkeyNoNo:: I'd hate to be their neighbors
::MonkeyTongue::

No kidding!!! ::MonkeyNoNo::

OT- Hey Island, I have been trying to catch you online, Do you ever visit Waterville with the kids in  GS, AL? We are coming soon for our annual beach vacation and I was wondering if you knew if discount coupons are ever available for Waterville. Sorry for the interuption/OT Thanks!!!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on August 01, 2009, 12:28:53 AM
Jennifer Whitman according to Whitepages.com

There is no number listed, so I am guessing it's unlisted.

Intellus shows a Jennifer Whitman who is 29 with a relative named Mark Whitman. I don't know if it's the same Jennifer.

I searched the county records and they aren't online:

Where can I find owner names on the website?
For privacy reasons, owner names will not be displayed on the website. You will need to contact the Ada County Assessor's Office at (208) 287-7262 or visit our office located at 200 W. Front St., Boise, Idaho where our friendly front counter staff will be happy to assist you


That's a surprise, here you can look up any property and find out the sale price, the mortgage and even the freaking interest rate ::MonkeyTongue::

They rent, so the owner name would do us no good anyhow. Thanks for trying!

Gothca.........


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: lady on August 01, 2009, 12:29:30 AM
http://blogs.ktvb.com/breaking/2009/07/police-evidence-manwill-was-in.html

Lady this link will not work for me
Search for missing Boise boy takes grim turn
12:03 PM Fri, Jul 31, 2009 | Permalink
Don Day
 

Editor's note: We have been experiencing technical difficulties today. To bring you the story, we are presenting this stripped down version of KTVB.COM

UPDATE - 10:04pm: Ada County Sheriff's Deputies and Boise Police Officers spent Friday evening searching a home on Southdale St. near Five Mile and Lake Hazel. Officials received a search warrant, and began looking through the scene at 6:15 p.m.

The people who rented the home spoke exclusively to KTVB and said they knew the Manwill family, but would not elaborate further.

Officers began searching the backyard of the home, including an RV and car. The search also focused on an area of disturbed earth. Equipment from Boise State University was brought in - which was said to be sonar.

Later, a group of seven people used a series of four foot rods and went through the area. They also used shovels to probe the dirt.

They then marked off the area with red evidence flags. The work wrapped up just before 10 p.m. Friday night. It is not known what was found - if anything.

Police will resume the search Saturday morning.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 12:30:49 AM
It looks like a shadetree mechanic's yard, and although there is a privacy fence part of the way, you can clearly see that there is a shared yard with the house on the right further past the fence. You can see where cars have ridden from one yard to the other, and there are almost as many cars over there as in the first one. I would suspect they are either related, or very good friends with this set up. I wonder how they would know if a SUV was missing from all this mess?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Gizzie on August 01, 2009, 12:30:50 AM
http://blogs.ktvb.com/breaking/2009/07/police-evidence-manwill-was-in.html

Editor's note: We have been experiencing technical difficulties today. To bring you the story, we are presenting this stripped down version of KTVB.COM

UPDATE - 10:04pm: Ada County Sheriff's Deputies and Boise Police Officers spent Friday evening searching a home on Southdale St. near Five Mile and Lake Hazel. Officials received a search warrant, and began looking through the scene at 6:15 p.m.

The people who rented the home spoke exclusively to KTVB and said they knew the Manwill family, but would not elaborate further.

Officers began searching the backyard of the home, including an RV and car. The search also focused on an area of disturbed earth. Equipment from Boise State University was brought in - which was said to be sonar.

Later, a group of seven people used a series of four foot rods and went through the area. They also used shovels to probe the dirt.

They then marked off the area with red evidence flags. The work wrapped up just before 10 p.m. Friday night. It is not known what was found - if anything.

Police will resume the search Saturday morning.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Gizzie on August 01, 2009, 12:31:37 AM
Oops...Sorry!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on August 01, 2009, 12:31:59 AM
Thank you NoRose, islandmonkey and Fanny.

(http://i32.tinypic.com/fk39q9.jpg)

I cropped it.

Wow~that is one scary yard ::MonkeyNoNo:: I'd hate to be their neighbors
::MonkeyTongue::

No kidding!!! ::MonkeyNoNo::

OT- Hey Island, I have been trying to catch you online, Do you ever visit Waterville with the kids in  GS, AL? We are coming soon for our annual beach vacation and I was wondering if you knew if discount coupons are ever available for Waterville. Sorry for the interuption/OT Thanks!!!

I'm almost embarresed to answer ::MonkeyRoll:: No-I haven't left the Island except to go to work or visit Eli when he wasn't an ::MonkeyAngel::  BUT, it's funny you ask because we are going next week. Send me an email at pcolabeachmom@yahoo.com and I'll get all the info when we are there!!!!!!!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on August 01, 2009, 12:34:57 AM
It looks like a shadetree mechanic's yard, and although there is a privacy fence part of the way, you can clearly see that there is a shared yard with the house on the right further past the fence. You can see where cars have ridden from one yard to the other, and there are almost as many cars over there as in the first one. I would suspect they are either related, or very good friends with this set up. I wonder how they would know if a SUV was missing from all this mess?


 Now that's the d@mn truth..... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cartfly on August 01, 2009, 12:36:58 AM
Will do thanks for the reply. I will email you. We are leaving in the
AM. Thanks!!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 12:38:41 AM
It looks like a shadetree mechanic's yard, and although there is a privacy fence part of the way, you can clearly see that there is a shared yard with the house on the right further past the fence. You can see where cars have ridden from one yard to the other, and there are almost as many cars over there as in the first one. I would suspect they are either related, or very good friends with this set up. I wonder how they would know if a SUV was missing from all this mess?

I was thinking the same thing Fanny.  The back access is shared between lots and they have cars and a truck lined up like a makeshift fence almost?  They have to be either really good friends or into what ever they are into with all those cars together.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on August 01, 2009, 12:39:43 AM
Will do thanks for the reply. I will email you. We are leaving in the
AM. Thanks!!

YW~That's funny, we could actually be there at the same time....I did find this for you though:

http://www.watervilleusa.com/flash.html

It list who is able to get discounted tickets due to age, size etc., but I'll check to see if any of the hotels/condos have discount tickets for you.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 12:40:43 AM


humboldtkid wrote on July, 31 10:28 PM:
I went to search today. We had to walk many blocks to get to where we were supposed to search, which may have led people to think folks weren't really looking. We were only allowed to look at public property. I really, really feel for Robert's dad, grandparents, and family. Did glean some info about the little boy, who was injured by mom. He had returned to the home about 6 weeks ago, but was put back into foster care Monday. Evidently, mom was violating parole by being with the boy friend?

http://www.idahostatesman.com/Boise/story/851769.html?commentSort=TimeStampDescending&pageNum=1

comment from above link


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 12:41:15 AM
So how are Jennifer R Whitman and Mark A Whitman who live there connected/related to Robert"s mom or BF?

http://www.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&qf=Jennifer&qmi=&qn=Whitman&qs=ID&trackit=74&focusfirst=1


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 12:42:56 AM
I have seen neighborhood in Boise that looked just like this. It is also not unusual to see a fence yard around the whole house, even in the front, with a horse standing in the front yard in a subdivision. I don't think the code restrictions are very tight there, and it does not surprise me the the addys don't match the tax assessors.

 Most people keep to themselves there, so not having addys on the houses is not a surprise either. I don't begin to know how the emergency services ever make a call there, and the police probably are not called much anyhow.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 12:46:47 AM
If he is in the backyard, he has to spend one more night there.
 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::
At least he is safe with God if he is in that backyard.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on August 01, 2009, 12:47:50 AM
I have seen neighborhood in Boise that looked just like this. It is also not unusual to see a fence yard around the whole house, even in the front, with a horse standing in the front yard in a subdivision. I don't think the code restrictions are very tight there, and it does not surprise me the the addys don't match the tax assessors.

 Most people keep to themselves there, so not having addys on the houses is not a surprise either. I don't begin to know how the emergency services ever make a call there, and the police probably are not called much anyhow.

That's crazy ::MonkeyHaHa::.

Actually the tax appraiser site had the correct house (it was just an old photo), the google map didn't have it exactly right.......Like I told NR, my house is at least 4 homes off when you do a google map.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 12:49:06 AM
The link posted earlier worked for me now as well.  I am posting the entire article in case the site goes down again.

Search for missing Boise boy takes grim turn
12:03 PM Fri, Jul 31, 2009 | Permalink
Don Day
 
Editor's note: We have been experiencing technical difficulties today. To bring you the story, we are presenting this stripped down version of KTVB.COM

UPDATE - 10:04pm: Ada County Sheriff's Deputies and Boise Police Officers spent Friday evening searching a home on Southdale St. near Five Mile and Lake Hazel. Officials received a search warrant, and began looking through the scene at 6:15 p.m.

The people who rented the home spoke exclusively to KTVB and said they knew the Manwill family, but would not elaborate further.

Officers began searching the backyard of the home, including an RV and car. The search also focused on an area of disturbed earth. Equipment from Boise State University was brought in - which was said to be sonar.

Later, a group of seven people used a series of four foot rods and went through the area. They also used shovels to probe the dirt.

They then marked off the area with red evidence flags. The work wrapped up just before 10 p.m. Friday night. It is not known what was found - if anything.

Police will resume the search Saturday morning.

UPDATE - 9:50pm: Police say more than 2,300 volunteers helped search for Manwill Friday

Earlier story

Jessie Bonner/ Associated Press

A Boise search for a missing 8-year-old took a grim turn as police suggested he may be hurt - or worse - and searched the apartment of his mother, who has a history of harming another child.

Police and FBI detectives Friday coordinated more than 2,300 volunteers in a massive search for Robert Manwill, who reportedly disappeared July 24 after leaving his mother's apartment on the southwest side of Idaho's capitol city.

Early in the week, investigators said they had no evidence suggesting foul play.

But Deputy Chief Jim Kerns changed course Friday, saying new evidence recovered in a Thursday night search of the apartment of the boy's mother, Melissa Scott Jenkins, has detectives tracking new leads.

"The evidence we've uncovered shows that there are suspicious circumstances surrounding Robert's disappearance," Kerns said during a press conference. "Volunteers assisting in the search today are being given the information by search team officers that Robert may indeed be injured or the victim of a tragic event."

So far, police say there are no arrests or suspects in the case. Investigators were seen taking an SUV and other items during the search of Jenkins' apartment Thursday night.

Jenkins has been at previous press conferences, but didn't attend Friday. Police wouldn't say where she was.

The boy was visiting her the night he disappeared. His father, Charles Manwill, has had custody since 2008 and lives in New Plymouth, about 45 miles northwest of Boise.

Court records show a history of family tragedies involving young children.

Jenkins pleaded guilty in March to a misdemeanor charge of injury to a child following an October 2008 incident that fractured her infant son's skull.

Jenkins "did willfully inflict" the injury to her other son "by striking the child's head on a surface, causing a fracture to the child's skull," on Oct. 19, 2008. She was sentenced to 29 days of work release, fined $75.50 and put on probation for two years, according to court documents.

That child is the son of Jenkins' boyfriend, Daniel Edward Ehrlick. The boy was in the care of the state Department of Health and Welfare through at least February, according to court documents. The agency will not release his whereabouts, citing policy.

Jenkins has a third child, a 2-year-old daughter fathered by a third man, who has custody of her. Jenkins has visitation rights. Ehrlick, who has been convicted of burglary, battery and possession of drug paraphernalia, is banned from being alone with the girl, but court documents don't say why.

In another case, Charles Manwill's former wife stabbed their 4-year-old son, Michael, in the chest in 1993, killing him. Silke Fatma Manwill pleaded guilty to voluntary manslaughter, was sentenced to federal prison and released in 2002.

Charles Manwill was among family members who flanked chief Kerns as he spoke to reporters Friday.

"We want everyone not to give up hope," said Trisha Burrill, the boy's aunt. "Please help us bring Robert home."

Boise police spokeswoman Lynn Hightower said volunteers on Friday covered a 1 1/2-mile to 2-mile radius around the scene where the boy was reported missing.

The search is believed to be the biggest attempt to find a missing person in the city's history, Hightower said.

Boise Police Department Sgt. P.D. Burch supervised a volunteer post at South Junior High School, and said 200 volunteers from New Plymouth, where the boy was supposed to enroll in third grade next month, were being bused to Boise to help in the search.

Family members gathered under a tent at the edge of the high school football field, where a 31-year-old mother of two from Meridian approached the group and asked if she could bring them lunch.

"We wanted to do something," said Randee Fratto, who walked away clutching her 4-month-old daughter, Olivia, and a handful of missing posters with pictures of Robert Manwill wearing a shy smile.

"It breaks your heart," Fratto said. "It makes you want to hug your babies and never let go."

http://blogs.ktvb.com/breaking/2009/07/police-evidence-manwill-was-in.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on August 01, 2009, 12:50:20 AM
If he is in the backyard, he has to spend one more night there.
 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::
At least he is safe with God if he is in that backyard.

That is sad ::MonkeyWaa:: BUT, IF he is in that backyard, he's been with God for awhile and is at peace and will never be scared, hungry or sad ever again. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 12:51:12 AM
I have seen neighborhood in Boise that looked just like this. It is also not unusual to see a fence yard around the whole house, even in the front, with a horse standing in the front yard in a subdivision. I don't think the code restrictions are very tight there, and it does not surprise me the the addys don't match the tax assessors.

 Most people keep to themselves there, so not having addys on the houses is not a surprise either. I don't begin to know how the emergency services ever make a call there, and the police probably are not called much anyhow.

That's crazy ::MonkeyHaHa::.

Actually the tax appraiser site had the correct house (it was just an old photo), the google map didn't have it exactly right.......Like I told NR, my house is at least 4 homes off when you do a google map.

Thanks for that Island!  I would never have known as I have never googled my own house.  Bing seems to be much more accurate but there is no street view that I saw with their maps.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on August 01, 2009, 12:54:46 AM
I have seen neighborhood in Boise that looked just like this. It is also not unusual to see a fence yard around the whole house, even in the front, with a horse standing in the front yard in a subdivision. I don't think the code restrictions are very tight there, and it does not surprise me the the addys don't match the tax assessors.

 Most people keep to themselves there, so not having addys on the houses is not a surprise either. I don't begin to know how the emergency services ever make a call there, and the police probably are not called much anyhow.

That's crazy ::MonkeyHaHa::.

Actually the tax appraiser site had the correct house (it was just an old photo), the google map didn't have it exactly right.......Like I told NR, my house is at least 4 homes off when you do a google map.

Thanks for that Island!  I would never have known as I have never googled my own house.  Bing seems to be much more accurate but there is no street view that I saw with their maps.

YW Northern Rose~our tax sites don't show the house, just who owns it and other info so I was surprised in how different their site was.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 12:57:58 AM
I have seen neighborhood in Boise that looked just like this. It is also not unusual to see a fence yard around the whole house, even in the front, with a horse standing in the front yard in a subdivision. I don't think the code restrictions are very tight there, and it does not surprise me the the addys don't match the tax assessors.

 Most people keep to themselves there, so not having addys on the houses is not a surprise either. I don't begin to know how the emergency services ever make a call there, and the police probably are not called much anyhow.

That's crazy ::MonkeyHaHa::.

Actually the tax appraiser site had the correct house (it was just an old photo), the google map didn't have it exactly right.......Like I told NR, my house is at least 4 homes off when you do a google map.

Thanks for that Island!  I would never have known as I have never googled my own house.  Bing seems to be much more accurate but there is no street view that I saw with their maps.

They actually do have a 3D view, but it is a microsoft add on that you have to pay for.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 12:58:41 AM
I am reading comments on http://blogs.ktvb.com/breaking/2009/07/police-evidence-manwill-was-in.html

Many locals are saying the B/F was in the hospital today based on local newscast.  I don't recall an article stating that. 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 01:00:00 AM
If he is in the backyard, he has to spend one more night there.
 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::
At least he is safe with God if he is in that backyard.

That is sad ::MonkeyWaa:: BUT, IF he is in that backyard, he's been with God for awhile and is at peace and will never be scared, hungry or sad ever again. ::MonkeyAngel::

I hate to even think of him lying there another night in that filthy place.  It is almost as bad as the landfill.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:00:04 AM
I have seen neighborhood in Boise that looked just like this. It is also not unusual to see a fence yard around the whole house, even in the front, with a horse standing in the front yard in a subdivision. I don't think the code restrictions are very tight there, and it does not surprise me the the addys don't match the tax assessors.

 Most people keep to themselves there, so not having addys on the houses is not a surprise either. I don't begin to know how the emergency services ever make a call there, and the police probably are not called much anyhow.

That's crazy ::MonkeyHaHa::.

Actually the tax appraiser site had the correct house (it was just an old photo), the google map didn't have it exactly right.......Like I told NR, my house is at least 4 homes off when you do a google map.

Thanks for that Island!  I would never have known as I have never googled my own house.  Bing seems to be much more accurate but there is no street view that I saw with their maps.

They actually do have a 3D view, but it is a microsoft add on that you have to pay for.

I am not surprised.  And being MS they probably need you to be on Vista and IE8 to load it.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 01:03:01 AM
I posted an article earlier that said that NoRose. Let me find it.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 01:05:55 AM
2:49 p.m.

Daniel Edward Ehrlick, the boyfriend of Robert's mother, was admitted to Saint Alphonsus Regional Medical Center but has been released, according to a hospital spokeswoman.

She was unable to say when he entered the hospital or for what he was treated.


http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/851769.html

Leroy posted it first. It was in later articles too.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 01, 2009, 01:07:10 AM
If he is in the backyard, he has to spend one more night there.
 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::
At least he is safe with God if he is in that backyard.

That is sad ::MonkeyWaa:: BUT, IF he is in that backyard, he's been with God for awhile and is at peace and will never be scared, hungry or sad ever again. ::MonkeyAngel::

I hate to even think of him lying there another night in that filthy place.  It is almost as bad as the landfill.  ::MonkeyWaa::

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: :smt056



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on August 01, 2009, 01:07:40 AM
If he is in the backyard, he has to spend one more night there.
 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::
At least he is safe with God if he is in that backyard.

That is sad ::MonkeyWaa:: BUT, IF he is in that backyard, he's been with God for awhile and is at peace and will never be scared, hungry or sad ever again. ::MonkeyAngel::

I hate to even think of him lying there another night in that filthy place.  It is almost as bad as the landfill.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I agree with that, but HE is not there and he is in heaven if indeed that is his body (and I think it probably is). I know that's the only solace I have when I had to help my daughter hand Eli over to the staff at the hospital, but if I didn't have that to give me some sense of peace and comfort I'd be crazier than I already am.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 01:07:59 AM
If he is in the backyard, he has to spend one more night there.
 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::
At least he is safe with God if he is in that backyard.

That is sad ::MonkeyWaa:: BUT, IF he is in that backyard, he's been with God for awhile and is at peace and will never be scared, hungry or sad ever again. ::MonkeyAngel::

I hate to even think of him lying there another night in that filthy place.  It is almost as bad as the landfill.  ::MonkeyWaa::

me too!
::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 01:08:23 AM

I am not surprised.  And being MS they probably need you to be on Vista and IE8 to load it.

I stand corrected NORTHERNROSE. My son says the 3D download is free and it shows terrain, mountains and such, not a street view. He has it downloaded on his laptop and he has XP.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:08:29 AM
So how are Jennifer R Whitman and Mark A Whitman who live there connected/related to Robert"s mom or BF?

http://www.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&qf=Jennifer&qmi=&qn=Whitman&qs=ID&trackit=74&focusfirst=1

Jennifer is no stranger with the courts.

4  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho Dept. of Health and Welfare vs. Evan Charles Wallis, etal. 
Case: CV-SP-2006-04394  Magistrate   Filed:  03/09/2006  Subtype:  Support Proceedings   Judge:  Dave Epis   Status:  Closed  01/03/2007 
  Defendants: Wallis, Evan Charles  Whitman, Jennifer R   
  Plaintiffs: State of Idaho Dept. of Health and Welfare   
Disposition:  Date  Judgment Type  Disposition Date  Disposition Type  Parties  In Favor Of 
  01/03/2007  Order For Med. Supp.    Wallis, Evan Charles (Defendant), Whitman, Jennifer R (Defendant), State of Idaho Dept. of Health and Welfare (Plaintiff)  Unknown 
  Comment: Order for Medical Support and Medicaid Reimbursement 
 
Register of actions:  Date   
  03/09/2006  New Case Filed - Support Proceedings 
  03/09/2006  Complaint Filed for Child Support and Medicaid Reimbursement 
  03/09/2006  Summons Filed 
  07/12/2006  Affidavit Of Service June 28, 2006 
  07/12/2006  Affidavit Of Service April 21, 2006 
  12/28/2006  Application For Entry Of Default 
  12/28/2006  Default Affidavit 
  01/03/2007  Default Order 
  01/03/2007  Order for Medical Support and Medicaid Reimbursement order date: 1/3/2007 
 
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
State of Idaho vs. Jennifer R Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-MD-2005-0014341
Old Case: M0514341   Magistrate   Judge:  Thomas Watkins   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  11/01/2005  I18-8001 Driving Without Privileges
Arresting Officer:  Brumbaugh, John, GC  157786  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 08/09/2006
Fines/fees: $243.50
Jail: 2 days
 
  11/01/2005  I49-654(1) Basic Rule Violation - Too Fast For Conditions-
Arresting Officer:  Brumbaugh, John, GC  157785  Finding: Default Judgment
Disposition date: 11/24/2005
Fines/fees: $62.00
 
  11/01/2005  I49-1232 {I} Insurance-fail To Provide Proof Of Insurance
Arresting Officer:  Brumbaugh, John, GC  157785  Finding: Default Judgment
Disposition date: 11/24/2005
Fines/fees: $116.50
 
  11/01/2005  I49-673 Safety Restraint-Fail To Use
Arresting Officer:  Brumbaugh, John, GC  157787  Finding: Default Judgment
Disposition date: 11/24/2005
Fines/fees: $10.00
 
  12/19/2005  I19-3901A Failure To Appear For Misdemeanor Citation
Arresting Officer:  Unknown Officer,, GC   Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 08/09/2006
Fines/fees: $149.50
 
  04/25/2007  IX7-601-5 {M} VIOLATION OF COURT ORDER
Arresting Officer:  Unknown Officer,, GC   Finding: Warrant Dismissed
Disposition date: 05/14/2007
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  11/10/2005  Charge number 1: Case Opened 
  11/10/2005  Arraignment - 11/23/2005 
  11/10/2005  Charge number 2: Case Opened 
  11/10/2005  Charge number 3: Case Opened 
  11/10/2005  First Appearance - 11/23/2005 
  11/10/2005  Charge number 4: Case Opened 
  11/25/2005  FTA - Affidavit Issued - 11/23/2005 
  11/30/2005  Charge number 2: Default Judgment - 11/24/2005 
  11/30/2005  Charge number 2: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $62.00 - 11/24/2005 
  11/30/2005  Charge number 3: Default Judgment - 11/24/2005 
  11/30/2005  Charge number 3: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $116.50 - 11/24/2005 
  11/30/2005  Charge number 4: Default Judgment - 11/24/2005 
  11/30/2005  Charge number 4: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $10.00 - 11/24/2005 
  12/02/2005  Charge number 2: Disposition reported to D.O.T. - G 0157785 E 
  12/16/2005  Charge number 3: Disposition reported to D.O.T. - G 0157785 E 
  12/19/2005  FTA Warrant Created - M0514341.01-01 
  12/19/2005  Amended Complaint 
  12/19/2005  FTA Warrant Issued - M0514341.01-01 - 12/19/2005 
  12/27/2005  Charge number 2: D/L Suspended- Failure to Pay - 12/15/2005 
  12/27/2005  Charge number 3: D/L Suspended- Failure to Pay - 12/15/2005 
  12/27/2005  Charge number 4: D/L Suspended- Failure to Pay - 12/15/2005 
  02/23/2006  Charge number 1: Reviewed & Retained - Class Update 
  03/15/2006  Charge number 5: Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - .01 
  03/15/2006  Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - 03/15/2006 
  03/15/2006  Bond Out Clerk Appearance - 03/29/2006 Thru - 04/05/2006 
  03/15/2006  Warrant Return Filed 
  03/29/2006  Bond Out Clerk Appearance 
  03/29/2006  Event Scheduled - Sentencing Hearing - 08/09/2006 
  08/09/2006  Sentence Hearing 
  08/09/2006  Charge number 1: Guilty Plea 
  08/09/2006  Charge number 1: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  08/09/2006  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $237.50 
  08/09/2006  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Jail - 2d 
  08/09/2006  Charge number 5: Guilty Plea 
  08/09/2006  Charge number 5: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  08/09/2006  Charge number 5: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $147.50 
  08/09/2006  D/L Suspension- Judgment 
  08/09/2006  Charge number 5: Fine Agreement Set - 08/09/2006 
  08/17/2006  Charge number 1: Partial Payment - A1907312 $70.00 
  08/24/2006  Exoneration of Bond - LG5-392191 - 08/24/2006 
  09/27/2006  Charge number 1: Partial Payment - A1920862 $70.00 
  10/24/2006  Charge number 1: Partial Payment - A1928392 $70.00 
  03/28/2007  Motion - for Contempt for F&C 
  04/25/2007  Contempt Warrant Created - M0514341.01-02 
  04/25/2007  Amended Complaint 
  04/25/2007  Contempt Warrant Iss'd - M0514341.01-02 - 04/25/2007 
  05/14/2007  Charge number 5: Final Payment - A1999255 $149.50 
  05/14/2007  Charge number 1: Final Payment - A1999256 $33.50 
  05/14/2007  Charge number 6: Warrant Dismissed 
  05/14/2007  Notice - to W/draw Warrant 
  05/14/2007  STATUS CHANGED: closed pending clerk action 
  05/15/2007  Warrant Return Filed 
  06/25/2008  STATUS CHANGED (batch process) 
 
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
State of Idaho vs. Jennifer R Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-IN-2005-0043251
Old Case: T0543251   Magistrate   Judge:  Michael Reardon   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  10/08/2005  I49-301(1) Drivers License- Fail To Purchase/ Invalid
Arresting Officer:  Jordan, Cherie L, AD  378016  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 07/31/2006
Fines/fees: $228.50
 
  11/08/2005  I19-3901A Failure To Appear For Misdemeanor Citation
Arresting Officer:  Unknown Officer,, AD   Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 07/31/2006
Fines/fees: $0.00
Jail: 1 day
Credited time (Yes): 1 day
 
  12/21/2007  IX7-601-5 {M} VIOLATION OF COURT ORDER
Arresting Officer:  Unknown Officer,, AD   Finding: Conditional Order of Dismissal
Disposition date: 01/23/2008
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  10/11/2005  Charge number 1: Case Opened 
  10/11/2005  Arraignment - 10/31/2005 
  11/01/2005  FTA - Affidavit Issued - 10/31/2005 
  11/08/2005  FTA Warrant Created - T0543251.01-01 
  11/08/2005  Amended Complaint 
  12/27/2005  FTA Warrant Issued - T0543251.01-01 - 12/27/2005 
  02/23/2006  Charge number 1: Reviewed & Retained - Class Update 
  03/15/2006  Charge number 2: Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - .01 
  03/15/2006  Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - 03/15/2006 
  03/15/2006  Bond Out Clerk Appearance - 03/29/2006 Thru - 04/05/2006 
  03/15/2006  Warrant Return Filed 
  03/29/2006  Bond Out Clerk Appearance 
  03/29/2006  Event Scheduled - Sentencing Hearing - 07/31/2006 
  07/31/2006  Sentence Hearing 
  07/31/2006  Charge number 1: Guilty Plea 
  07/31/2006  Charge number 1: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  07/31/2006  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $222.50 
  07/31/2006  Charge number 2: Guilty Plea 
  07/31/2006  Charge number 2: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  07/31/2006  Charge number 2: Sentenced to Jail - 1d 1d cr 
  07/31/2006  Charge number 1: Fine Agreement Set - 07/31/2006 
  07/31/2006  Exoneration of Bond - LG5-392192 - 07/31/2006 
  09/27/2006  Charge number 1: Partial Payment - A1920635 $38.00 
  11/15/2006  Charge number 1: Partial Payment - A1935553 $78.00 
  01/30/2007  Charge number 1: Affidavit Created - Tracking ID:171008 - 01/30/2007 
  02/02/2007  Charge number 1: Partial Payment - A1963856 $80.00 
  08/06/2007  Charge number 1: Affidavit Created - Tracking ID:171008 - 08/06/2007 
  12/21/2007  Contempt Warrant Created - T0543251.01-02 
  12/21/2007  Amended Complaint 
  12/28/2007  Motion - for Contempt for F&C 
  01/04/2008  Contempt Warrant Iss'd - T0543251.01-02 - 01/04/2008 
  01/22/2008  Charge number 3: Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - .02 
  01/22/2008  Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - 01/23/2008 
  01/22/2008  Charge number 3: Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - .02 
  01/22/2008  Charge number 3: Bond Set at - $350.00 
  01/22/2008  Bond Set at - 01/23/2008 
  01/22/2008  Bond Out Clerk Appearance - 02/05/2008 Thru - 02/12/2008 
  01/23/2008  Warrant Return Filed 
  01/23/2008  Charge number 1: Final Payment for traffic case - A2091923 $32.50 
  01/23/2008  Charge number 3: Conditional Order of Dismissal 
  01/23/2008  cash bond to fines no appearance needed 
 
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
State of Idaho vs. Jennifer R Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-IN-2004-0016241
Old Case: T0416241   Magistrate   Judge:  Magistrate Court Clerk   Amount due:  $132.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  04/01/2004  I49-301(1) Drivers License- Fail To Purchase/ Invalid
Arresting Officer:  Ducharme, Todd, BO  1081348  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 04/21/2004
Fines/fees: $132.00
 
  04/01/2004  I49-654(2) Speed-exceed Maximum Speed Limit
Arresting Officer:  Ducharme, Todd, BO  1081347  Finding: Default Judgment
Disposition date: 04/22/2004
Fines/fees: $53.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  04/05/2004  Charge number 1: Case Opened 
  04/05/2004  Arraignment - 04/22/2004 
  04/05/2004  Charge number 2: Case Opened 
  04/05/2004  First Appearance - 04/22/2004 
  04/21/2004  Arraignment 
  04/21/2004  Charge number 1: Guilty Plea 
  04/21/2004  Charge number 1: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  04/21/2004  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $132.00 
  04/21/2004  Charge number 1: Fine Agreement Set - 04/21/2004 
  04/28/2004  Charge number 2: Default Judgment - 04/22/2004 
  04/28/2004  Charge number 2: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $53.00 - 04/22/2004 
  04/30/2004  Charge number 2: Disposition reported to D.O.T. - B 1081347 E 
  05/25/2004  Charge number 2: D/L Suspended- Failure to Pay - 05/13/2004 
 
 
Connection: Public 
 
 
 https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=ADA&county=Ada&partySeq=334537&displayName=Whitman%2C+Jennifer+R+%28AKA+for+Whitman%2C+Jennifer+R%29
 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:10:13 AM
Ada 
3  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Jennifer R Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-IN-2008-0042961   Magistrate   Judge:  Magistrate Court Clerk   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  09/24/2008  I49-654(2) Speed-exceed Maximum Speed Limit
Arresting Officer:  Fuchs, Wayne, ME  149979  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 10/14/2008
Fines/fees: $75.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  09/26/2008  New Case Filed - Infraction 
  10/14/2008  Finding of Guilty (I49-654(2) Speed-exceed Maximum Speed Limit) 
  10/14/2008  STATUS CHANGED: closed pending clerk action 
  10/14/2008  Sentenced To Pay Fine 75.00 charge: I49-654(2) Speed-exceed Maximum Speed Limit 
  10/14/2008  STATUS CHANGED: closed 
 
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
State of Idaho vs. Jennifer R Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-IN-2008-0035372   Magistrate   Judge:  Magistrate Court Clerk   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  08/05/2008  I49-673 Safety Restraint-Fail To Use
Arresting Officer:  Smith, Matthew R, ISP  1343393  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 08/28/2008
Fines/fees: $10.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  08/08/2008  New Case Filed - Infraction 
  08/28/2008  Ada Default Letter- Overdue - Step 1, Failure to Appear - Charge # 1, Safety Restraint-Fail To Use Appearance date: 8/28/2008 
  08/28/2008  STATUS CHANGED: Closed pending clerk action 
  09/09/2008  STATUS CHANGED: closed 
 
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
State of Idaho vs. Jennifer R Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-MD-2008-0001497
Old Case: M0801497   Magistrate   Judge:  Thomas Watkins   Amount due:  $552.50  Closed pending clerk action 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  01/22/2008  Original: I18-8001 Driving Without Privileges
Amended: I49-301 Driver License - Fail to Purchase/Invalid
Arresting Officer:  Del Rio, Joses, K  406216  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 04/29/2008
Fines/fees: $577.50
 
  01/22/2008  I49-1232 {M} Insurance-fail To Provide Proof Of Insurance
Arresting Officer:  Del Rio, Joses, K  406216  Finding: Dismissed By Court
Disposition date: 04/29/2008
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  02/01/2008  Charge number 1: Case Opened 
  02/01/2008  Charge number 2: Case Opened 
  02/01/2008  Arraignment - 02/08/2008 
  02/08/2008  Arraignment 
  02/08/2008  Charge number 1: Not Guilty Plea 
  02/08/2008  Jury Trial Set - 05/22/2008 
  02/08/2008  Event Scheduled - Pre-Trial Conference - 04/29/2008 
  04/29/2008  Hearing result for Jury Trial held on 05/22/2008 08:30 AM: Hearing Vacated 
  04/29/2008  Hearing result for Pretrial Conference held on 04/29/2008 01:15 PM: Hearing Held 
  04/29/2008  A Plea is entered for charge: - GT (I49-301 Driver License - Fail to Purchase/Invalid) 
  04/29/2008  Finding of Guilty (I49-301 Driver License - Fail to Purchase/Invalid) 
  04/29/2008  Charge Reduced Or Amended (I49-301 Driver License - Fail to Purchase/Invalid) 
  04/29/2008  Dismissed by the Court (I49-1232 {M} Insurance-fail To Provide Proof Of Insurance) 
  04/29/2008  STATUS CHANGED: closed pending clerk action 
  04/29/2008  Sentenced To Pay Fine 575.50 charge: I49-301 Driver License - Fail to Purchase/Invalid 
 
 
Connection: Public 

https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=ADA&county=Ada&partySeq=1164876&displayName=Whitman%2C+Jennifer+R


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:11:19 AM
Ada 
1  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Jennifer R Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-MD-1997-0005867
Old Case: M9705867   Magistrate   Judge:  Kay Hamilton   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  05/08/1997  IX18-1502-A {M} TOBACCO POSSESSION OF BY MINORS
Arresting Officer:  England, Kris, BO  732488  Finding: Transferred
Disposition date: 05/28/2004
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  05/14/1997  Charge number 1: Case Opened 
  05/14/1997  Arraignment - 05/29/1997 
  11/10/1997  Event Continued - For Parent To Appear 
  11/10/1997  Arraignment 
  11/17/1997  Bench Warrant Created - M9705867.01-01 
  11/21/1997  Bench Warrant Issued - M9705867.01-01 - 11/21/1997 
  03/09/2004  Charge number 1: Reviewed & Retained - Class Update 
  03/30/2004  Warrant/Return/Filed 
  05/28/2004  Charge number 1: Dismissed Before Trial or Hearing 
  05/28/2004  Order - to Dismiss 
 
https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=ADA&county=Ada&partySeq=1203750&displayName=Whitman%2C+Jennifer+R


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 01:13:10 AM
If he is in the backyard, he has to spend one more night there.
 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::
At least he is safe with God if he is in that backyard.

That is sad ::MonkeyWaa:: BUT, IF he is in that backyard, he's been with God for awhile and is at peace and will never be scared, hungry or sad ever again. ::MonkeyAngel::

I hate to even think of him lying there another night in that filthy place.  It is almost as bad as the landfill.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I agree with that, but HE is not there and he is in heaven if indeed that is his body (and I think it probably is). I know that's the only solace I have when I had to help my daughter hand Eli over to the staff at the hospital, but if I didn't have that to give me some sense of peace and comfort I'd be crazier than I already am.

Island, you don't know how many times a day I think of you and your daughter and little Eli. I know this is the hardest thing you have ever had to face. I admire how you just keep on keeping on. I guess that is the best any of us can do. Just keep hanging onto our faith, even if it is by our fingernails.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 01:13:38 AM
Just some traffic related stuff.

Puzzling. I wonder what the connection is. Distant relative? Co-worker of on of the two? Friends?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:13:46 AM
Ada 
1  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Jennifer R Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-IN-2000-0043279
Old Case: T0043279   Magistrate   Judge:  Michael Oths   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  10/23/2000  I49-301(1) Drivers License- Fail To Purchase/ Invalid
Arresting Officer:  Avella, Pat, BO  871807  Finding: Dismissed- Lack of Prosecution
Disposition date: 07/01/2003
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
  12/05/2000  I19-3901A Failure To Appear For Misdemeanor Citation
Arresting Officer:  zzBCPD,, BO   Finding: Dismissed- Lack of Prosecution
Disposition date: 07/01/2003
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  10/24/2000  Charge number 1: Case Opened 
  10/24/2000  Arraignment - 11/20/2000 
  11/21/2000  FTA - Affidavit Issued - 11/20/2000 
  12/05/2000  FTA Warrant Created - T0043279.01-01 
  12/05/2000  Amended Complaint 
  12/14/2000  FTA Warrant Issued - T0043279.01-01 - 12/14/2000 
  09/10/2002  Charge number 1: Reviewed & Retained - Class Update 
  02/05/2003  Expired Warrant Warrant Return/Filed 
  07/01/2003  Charge number 1: Dismissed- Lack of Prosecution 
  07/01/2003  Charge number 2: Dismissed- Lack of Prosecution 
  07/01/2003  Order - for Dismissal 
 
 
Connection: Public 

https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=ADA&county=Ada&partySeq=1266967&displayName=Whitman%2C+Jennifer+R


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:15:08 AM
Ada 
1  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Jennifer R Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-IN-2005-0011017
Old Case: T0511017   Magistrate   Judge:  Magistrate Court Clerk   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  03/07/2005  I49-654(1) Basic Rule Violation - Too Fast For Conditions-
Arresting Officer:  Christensen, Kyle, BO  1122881  Finding: Default Judgment
Disposition date: 03/31/2005
Fines/fees: $53.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  03/08/2005  Charge number 1: Case Opened 
  03/08/2005  First Appearance - 03/28/2005 
  04/06/2005  Charge number 1: Default Judgment - 03/31/2005 
  04/06/2005  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $53.00 - 03/31/2005 
  04/08/2005  Charge number 1: Disposition reported to D.O.T. - B 1122881 E 
  05/03/2005  Charge number 1: D/L Suspended- Failure to Pay - 04/21/2005 
  02/09/2007  Charge number 1: Reinstatement of D/L 
  02/09/2007  Charge number 1: Final Payment for traffic case - A1966642 $53.00 
 
 
Connection: Public 

https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=ADA&county=Ada&partySeq=1538856&displayName=Whitman%2C+Jennifer+R


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 01:15:08 AM
Ada 
1  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Jennifer R Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-MD-1997-0005867
Old Case: M9705867   Magistrate   Judge:  Kay Hamilton   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  05/08/1997  IX18-1502-A {M} TOBACCO POSSESSION OF BY MINORS
Arresting Officer:  England, Kris, BO  732488  Finding: Transferred
Disposition date: 05/28/2004
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  05/14/1997  Charge number 1: Case Opened 
  05/14/1997  Arraignment - 05/29/1997 
  11/10/1997  Event Continued - For Parent To Appear 
  11/10/1997  Arraignment 
  11/17/1997  Bench Warrant Created - M9705867.01-01 
  11/21/1997  Bench Warrant Issued - M9705867.01-01 - 11/21/1997 
  03/09/2004  Charge number 1: Reviewed & Retained - Class Update 
  03/30/2004  Warrant/Return/Filed 
  05/28/2004  Charge number 1: Dismissed Before Trial or Hearing 
  05/28/2004  Order - to Dismiss 
 
https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=ADA&county=Ada&partySeq=1203750&displayName=Whitman%2C+Jennifer+R

Sounds like she worked in a convience store and got caught selling cigs or snuff to minors.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 01:16:30 AM
If he is in the backyard, he has to spend one more night there.
 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::
At least he is safe with God if he is in that backyard.

That is sad ::MonkeyWaa:: BUT, IF he is in that backyard, he's been with God for awhile and is at peace and will never be scared, hungry or sad ever again. ::MonkeyAngel::

I hate to even think of him lying there another night in that filthy place.  It is almost as bad as the landfill.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I agree with that, but HE is not there and he is in heaven if indeed that is his body (and I think it probably is). I know that's the only solace I have when I had to help my daughter hand Eli over to the staff at the hospital, but if I didn't have that to give me some sense of peace and comfort I'd be crazier than I already am.

Island, you don't know how many times a day I think of you and your daughter and little Eli. I know this is the hardest thing you have ever had to face. I admire how you just keep on keeping on. I guess that is the best any of us can do. Just keep hanging onto our faith, even if it is by our fingernails.   ::MonkeyAngel::

::monkeyhugs:: island monkey.

The soul goes to heaven. The body is just shell.. A beautiful breathtaking shell, but it's the soul that gave it life.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on August 01, 2009, 01:18:04 AM
If he is in the backyard, he has to spend one more night there.
 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::
At least he is safe with God if he is in that backyard.

That is sad ::MonkeyWaa:: BUT, IF he is in that backyard, he's been with God for awhile and is at peace and will never be scared, hungry or sad ever again. ::MonkeyAngel::

I hate to even think of him lying there another night in that filthy place.  It is almost as bad as the landfill.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I agree with that, but HE is not there and he is in heaven if indeed that is his body (and I think it probably is). I know that's the only solace I have when I had to help my daughter hand Eli over to the staff at the hospital, but if I didn't have that to give me some sense of peace and comfort I'd be crazier than I already am.

Island, you don't know how many times a day I think of you and your daughter and little Eli. I know this is the hardest thing you have ever had to face. I admire how you just keep on keeping on. I guess that is the best any of us can do. Just keep hanging onto our faith, even if it is by our fingernails.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks Fanny~I'm just touchy today as we rec'd his photos from NILMDTS and I forgot how beautiful he was ::MonkeyWaa:: I'm hanging woman even if by a thread ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 01:18:48 AM
Ada 
1  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Jennifer R Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-MD-1997-0005867
Old Case: M9705867   Magistrate   Judge:  Kay Hamilton   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  05/08/1997  IX18-1502-A {M} TOBACCO POSSESSION OF BY MINORS
Arresting Officer:  England, Kris, BO  732488  Finding: Transferred
Disposition date: 05/28/2004
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  05/14/1997  Charge number 1: Case Opened 
  05/14/1997  Arraignment - 05/29/1997 
  11/10/1997  Event Continued - For Parent To Appear 
  11/10/1997  Arraignment 
  11/17/1997  Bench Warrant Created - M9705867.01-01 
  11/21/1997  Bench Warrant Issued - M9705867.01-01 - 11/21/1997 
  03/09/2004  Charge number 1: Reviewed & Retained - Class Update 
  03/30/2004  Warrant/Return/Filed 
  05/28/2004  Charge number 1: Dismissed Before Trial or Hearing 
  05/28/2004  Order - to Dismiss 
 
https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=ADA&county=Ada&partySeq=1203750&displayName=Whitman%2C+Jennifer+R

Sounds like she worked in a convience store and got caught selling cigs or snuff to minors.

97 would have made her 17. Still a minor when it comes to buying smokes. She must have got busted. LOL


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:18:58 AM
So how are Jennifer R Whitman and Mark A Whitman who live there connected/related to Robert"s mom or BF?

http://www.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&qf=Jennifer&qmi=&qn=Whitman&qs=ID&trackit=74&focusfirst=1

There are two Mark A Whitman's in the court system.  One is born 1961 the other 1981 both in Boise.  I think it is safe to pick the 1981 Mark based on Jennifer's DOB being 1980?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on August 01, 2009, 01:20:02 AM
If he is in the backyard, he has to spend one more night there.
 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::
At least he is safe with God if he is in that backyard.

That is sad ::MonkeyWaa:: BUT, IF he is in that backyard, he's been with God for awhile and is at peace and will never be scared, hungry or sad ever again. ::MonkeyAngel::

I hate to even think of him lying there another night in that filthy place.  It is almost as bad as the landfill.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I agree with that, but HE is not there and he is in heaven if indeed that is his body (and I think it probably is). I know that's the only solace I have when I had to help my daughter hand Eli over to the staff at the hospital, but if I didn't have that to give me some sense of peace and comfort I'd be crazier than I already am.

Island, you don't know how many times a day I think of you and your daughter and little Eli. I know this is the hardest thing you have ever had to face. I admire how you just keep on keeping on. I guess that is the best any of us can do. Just keep hanging onto our faith, even if it is by our fingernails.   ::MonkeyAngel::

::monkeyhugs:: island monkey.

The soul goes to heaven. The body is just shell.. A beautiful breathtaking shell, but it's the soul that gave it life.

I know, and I also know he is perfect in heaven and at peace and well loved by all  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 01:20:08 AM
Ada 
1  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Jennifer R Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-MD-1997-0005867
Old Case: M9705867   Magistrate   Judge:  Kay Hamilton   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  05/08/1997  IX18-1502-A {M} TOBACCO POSSESSION OF BY MINORS
Arresting Officer:  England, Kris, BO  732488  Finding: Transferred
Disposition date: 05/28/2004
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  05/14/1997  Charge number 1: Case Opened 
  05/14/1997  Arraignment - 05/29/1997 
  11/10/1997  Event Continued - For Parent To Appear 
  11/10/1997  Arraignment 
  11/17/1997  Bench Warrant Created - M9705867.01-01 
  11/21/1997  Bench Warrant Issued - M9705867.01-01 - 11/21/1997 
  03/09/2004  Charge number 1: Reviewed & Retained - Class Update 
  03/30/2004  Warrant/Return/Filed 
  05/28/2004  Charge number 1: Dismissed Before Trial or Hearing 
  05/28/2004  Order - to Dismiss 
 
https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=ADA&county=Ada&partySeq=1203750&displayName=Whitman%2C+Jennifer+R

Sounds like she worked in a convience store and got caught selling cigs or snuff to minors.

Or maybe she was underage and got caught with cigs. I wonder why it would take six months to go to trial for underage tobacco possession and had to wait another week for a parent to show up? Looks like she didn't show up for trail and a warrant was written. She didn't get arrested on it  for SEVEN years??


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 01:22:03 AM
If he is in the backyard, he has to spend one more night there.
 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::
At least he is safe with God if he is in that backyard.

That is sad ::MonkeyWaa:: BUT, IF he is in that backyard, he's been with God for awhile and is at peace and will never be scared, hungry or sad ever again. ::MonkeyAngel::

I hate to even think of him lying there another night in that filthy place.  It is almost as bad as the landfill.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I agree with that, but HE is not there and he is in heaven if indeed that is his body (and I think it probably is). I know that's the only solace I have when I had to help my daughter hand Eli over to the staff at the hospital, but if I didn't have that to give me some sense of peace and comfort I'd be crazier than I already am.

Island, you don't know how many times a day I think of you and your daughter and little Eli. I know this is the hardest thing you have ever had to face. I admire how you just keep on keeping on. I guess that is the best any of us can do. Just keep hanging onto our faith, even if it is by our fingernails.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks Fanny~I'm just touchy today as we rec'd his photos from NILMDTS and I forgot how beautiful he was ::MonkeyWaa:: I'm hanging woman even if by a thread ::MonkeyAngel::

Awww, now I am bawling. It's great that a NILMDTS volunteer was there to capture those special moments.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:23:05 AM
I am going to give both 1981 and 1961 Mark Whitman records.  I am wondering if they are father and son based on charges each has. 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 01:24:59 AM
I was going to bed two hours ago. Hubby is already in bed with the pillow over his head again.

Good night ya'll. And God Bless little Robert.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:25:19 AM
1981 Mark Whitman

Ada 
4  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Mark Allen Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-MD-2005-0008843
Old Case: M0508843   Magistrate   Judge:  Michael Oths   Amount due:  $345.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  07/13/2005  IX37-2732-MP {M} MARIJUANA POSSESSION
Arresting Officer:  zzBCPD,, BO  1191891  Finding: Change Plea to Guilty Before Trial
Disposition date: 05/22/2006
Fines/fees: $222.50
Jail: 1 day
 
  07/13/2005  I37-2734(A) {M} Drug Paraphernalia Possession of
Arresting Officer:  zzBCPD,, BO  1191891  Finding: Change Plea to Guilty Before Trial
Disposition date: 05/22/2006
Fines/fees: $122.50
Jail: 1 day
 
  07/11/2006  IX7-601-5 {M} VIOLATION OF COURT ORDER
Arresting Officer:  zzBCPD,, BO   Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 12/05/2006
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  07/15/2005  Case Created 
  07/15/2005  Case Opened 
  07/15/2005  Bond Out Clerk Appearance - 07/27/2005 Thru - 08/03/2005 
  07/15/2005  Charge number 1: Charge Booked by ACSO - -Citation B 191891 
  07/15/2005  Charge number 1: Bond Set at - 300 LG5-325156 
  07/15/2005  Charge number 1: Bonded Posted - 300 LG5-325156 
  07/15/2005  Charge number 1: Type of Bond Posted - - SURETY 
  07/15/2005  Charge number 1: Bonded By - ALADDIN BAIL BONDS 
  07/15/2005  Charge number 2: Charge Booked by ACSO - -Citation B 191891 
  07/15/2005  Charge number 2: Bond Set at - 300 LG5-325001 
  07/15/2005  Charge number 2: Bonded Posted - 300 LG5-325001 
  07/15/2005  Charge number 2: Type of Bond Posted - - SURETY 
  07/15/2005  Charge number 2: Bonded By - ALADDIN BAIL BONDS 
  07/27/2005  Bond Out Clerk Appearance 
  07/27/2005  Charge number 1: Not Guilty Plea 
  07/27/2005  Charge number 2: Not Guilty Plea 
  07/27/2005  Jury Trial Set - 12/14/2005 
  07/27/2005  Event Scheduled - Pre-Trial Conference - 11/16/2005 
  11/16/2005  Charge number 1: Bond Forfeiture - LG5-325156 
  11/16/2005  Charge number 2: Bond Forfeiture - LG5-325001 
  11/21/2005  Bench Warrant Created - M0508843.01-01 
  11/28/2005  Bench Warrant Issued - M0508843.01-01 - 11/28/2005 
  12/26/2005  Charge number 2: Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - .01 
  12/26/2005  Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - 12/27/2005 
  12/26/2005  Bond Out Clerk Appearance - 01/09/2006 Thru - 01/16/2006 
  12/27/2005  Warrant Return Filed 
  01/04/2006  Motion - to Exon/Sheriff Cert 
  01/04/2006  Motion - to Exon/Sheriff Cert 
  01/13/2006  Charge number 1: Exoneration of Bond - LG5-325156 - 01/13/2006 
  01/13/2006  Charge number 2: Exoneration of Bond - LG5-325001 - 01/13/2006 
  01/17/2006  Order Appointing Public Defender 
  01/17/2006  Bond Out Clerk Appearance 
  01/17/2006  Event Scheduled - Pre-Trial Conference - 05/22/2006 
  02/02/2006  Defendant Request For Discovery 
  02/02/2006  State/City Request for Discovery 
  02/02/2006  State/City Response to Disc. Req. 
  05/22/2006  Pre-Trial Conference 
  05/22/2006  Charge number 1: Change Plea to Guilty Before Trial 
  05/22/2006  Charge number 1: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  05/22/2006  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $222.50 
  05/22/2006  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Jail - 1d Consecutive 
  05/22/2006  Charge number 2: Change Plea to Guilty Before Trial 
  05/22/2006  Charge number 2: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  05/22/2006  Charge number 2: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $122.50 
  05/22/2006  Charge number 2: Sentenced to Jail - 1d Consecutive 
  05/22/2006  Charge number 1: Fine Agreement Set - 05/22/2006 
  05/26/2006  Exoneration of Bond - LG25-357906 - 05/26/2006 
  07/11/2006  Contempt Warrant Created - M0508843.01-02 
  07/11/2006  Amended Complaint 
  11/24/2006  Motion - for Contempt for 1d Jail 
  11/30/2006  Contempt Warrant Iss'd - M0508843.01-02 - 11/30/2006 
  12/05/2006  Charge number 3: Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - .02 
  12/05/2006  Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - 12/05/2006 
  12/05/2006  Charge number 3: Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - .02 
  12/05/2006  Charge number 3: Bond Set at - $250.00 
  12/05/2006  Bond Set at - 12/05/2006 
  12/05/2006  Warrant Return Filed 
  12/05/2006  Video Arraignment - Video Arraignment - 12/05/2006 
  12/05/2006  Video Arraignment 
  12/05/2006  Charge number 3: Guilty Plea 
  12/05/2006  Charge number 3: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  12/05/2006  Reorder 1d/J CTS 
  12/07/2006  Letter from Defend 
 
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
State of Idaho vs. Mark Allen Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-MD-2005-0005833
Old Case: M0505833   Magistrate   Judge:  Richard Schmidt   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  05/15/2005  Original: I18-905(A) Assault-aggravated(use Deadly Weapon/instrument)
Amended: IX18-6409 {M} DISTURBING THE PEACE
Arresting Officer:  zzBCPD,, BO   Finding: Order for Dismissal
Disposition date: 01/19/2006
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
  05/15/2005  I18-705 Officers-resisting Or Obstructing Officers
Arresting Officer:  zzBCPD,, BO  1128782  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 01/19/2006
Fines/fees: $213.50
Jail: 60 days
Suspended Jail: 26 days
Credited time (Yes): 34 days
 
  07/21/2006  IX20-227-B {M} PROBATION VIOLATION
Arresting Officer:  zzBCPD,, BO   Finding: Order for Dismissal
Disposition date: 11/20/2006
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  05/16/2005  Case Created 
  05/16/2005  Case Opened 
  05/16/2005  Video Arraignment - 05/16/2005 
  05/16/2005  Charge number 1: Charge Booked by ACSO 
  05/16/2005  Charge number 1: Charge Amended by Prosecutor 
  05/16/2005  Charge number 1: Finger Print Card# Added - 0060636 
  05/16/2005  Charge number 2: Charge Booked by ACSO - -Citation B 128782 
  05/16/2005  Charge number 2: Bond Set at - 300 
  05/16/2005  Video Arraignment - Video Arraignment - 05/16/2005 
  05/16/2005  Charge number 1: Charge Filed Cause Found 
  05/16/2005  Charge number 2: Charge Filed Cause Found 
  05/16/2005  Video Arraignment 
  05/16/2005  Order Appointing Public Defender 
  05/16/2005  Order No Contact - Justin Rails DR#20005-514974 
  05/16/2005  Event Scheduled - Preliminary Hearing - 05/27/2005 
  05/18/2005  Notice - of Hearing 
  05/18/2005  Motion - for Bond Reduction 
  05/18/2005  Defendant Request For Discovery 
  05/27/2005  Charge number 1: Defendant Bound Over - H0500754 D.01 
  05/27/2005  Charge number 1: Count Bound To - H0500754 D.01 C.001 
  05/27/2005  Charge number 1: Bond Transferred To - H0500754 D.01 C.001 
  05/27/2005  Charge number 2: Count Bound To - H0500754 D.01 C.002 
  05/27/2005  Charge number 2: Bond Transferred To - H0500754 D.01 C.002 
  05/27/2005  Preliminary Hearing 
  06/02/2005  Finger Print Card# Sent to BCI - 0100060636 
  08/19/2005  Reopen Case Previously Closed 
  08/19/2005  Charge number 1: Count Remanded From - H0500754 D.01 C.001 
  08/19/2005  Charge number 1: Bond Transferred From - H0500754 D.01 C.001 
  08/19/2005  Charge number 2: Count Remanded From - H0500754 D.01 C.002 
  08/19/2005  Event Scheduled - 0930 - 08/31/2005 
  08/19/2005  Event Scheduled - Preliminary Hearing - 08/31/2005 
  08/31/2005  Jury Trial Set - 01/19/2006 
  08/31/2005  Event Scheduled - Pre-Trial Conference - 12/27/2005 
  08/31/2005  Charge number 1: Charge Amended From - S 18-905-B F AGG ASS 
  08/31/2005  Charge number 1: To - S 18-6409 M DISTRB P 
  08/31/2005  Amended Complaint 
  12/27/2005  Pre-Trial Conference 
  01/19/2006  Charge number 1: Order for Dismissal 
  01/19/2006  Charge number 2: Guilty Plea 
  01/19/2006  Charge number 2: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  01/19/2006  Charge number 2: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $213.50 
  01/19/2006  Charge number 2: Sentenced to Jail - 60d 26d sp 34d cr 
  01/19/2006  Charge number 2: Placed on Probation - 12m Standard Terms 
  01/19/2006  Order No Contact - Justin Ralls 
  01/19/2006  Order No Contact - Lorrie Nelson 
  01/19/2006  Charge number 2: Fine Agreement Set - 01/19/2006 
  05/31/2006  Charge number 2: Affidavit Created - Tracking ID:162496 - 05/31/2006 
  07/21/2006  Bench Warrant Created - M0505833.01-01 
  07/21/2006  Amended Complaint 
  07/25/2006  Motion - for BW for PV for Fines/Costs 
  08/07/2006  Bench Warrant Issued - M0505833.01-01 - 08/07/2006 
  10/29/2006  Charge number 3: Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - .01 
  10/29/2006  Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - 10/30/2006 
  10/29/2006  Bond Out Clerk Appearance - 11/13/2006 Thru - 11/20/2006 
  10/30/2006  Charge number 2: Final Payment - A1930960 $213.50 
  10/30/2006  cash bond to fines appearance necessary 
  10/30/2006  Warrant Return Filed 
  11/20/2006  Video Arraignment - Bond Out Clerk Appea - 11/20/2006 
  11/20/2006  Video Arraignment 
  11/20/2006  Charge number 3: Order for Dismissal 
  11/20/2006  Order - Dism Per Pros 
  11/23/2006  Finger Print Card# Sent to BCI - 0100088510 
  12/07/2006  Finger Print Card# Sent to BCI - 0100090194 
 
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
State of Idaho vs. Mark Allen Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-MD-2004-0008070
Old Case: M0408070   Magistrate   Judge:  Thomas Watkins   Amount due:  $363.50  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  07/09/2004  Original: I18-8004 {M} Driving Under The Influence
Amended: I49-1401(3) Driving-inattentive/careless
Arresting Officer:  zzBCPD,, BO  1089017  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 01/11/2005
Fines/fees: $363.50
Jail: 60 days
Suspended Jail: 57 days
 
  02/02/2005  IX20-227-B {M} PROBATION VIOLATION
Arresting Officer:  zzBCPD,, BO   Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 06/23/2005
Fines/fees: $0.00
Jail: 7 days
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  07/09/2004  Case Created 
  07/09/2004  Case Opened 
  07/09/2004  Bond Out Clerk Appearance - 07/23/2004 Thru - 07/30/2004 
  07/09/2004  Charge number 1: Charge Booked by ACSO - -Citation B 089017 
  07/09/2004  Charge number 1: Finger Print Card# Added - 0045573 
  07/09/2004  Charge number 1: Bond Set at - 500 A7-2099483 
  07/09/2004  Charge number 1: Bonded Posted - 500 A7-2099483 
  07/09/2004  Charge number 1: Type of Bond Posted - - SURETY 
  07/09/2004  Charge number 1: Bonded By - CLADIS BAIL BONDS 
  07/23/2004  Order Appointing Public Defender 
  07/23/2004  Jury Trial Set - 12/23/2004 
  07/23/2004  Event Scheduled - Pre-Trial Conference - 12/01/2004 
  07/23/2004  Bond Out Clerk Appearance 
  08/06/2004  Defendant Request For Discovery 
  08/18/2004  State/City Request for Discovery 
  08/18/2004  State/City Response to Disc. Req. 
  10/08/2004  State/City Response to Disc. Req. - /Supplemental 
  12/01/2004  Pre-Trial Conference 
  12/01/2004  PT Memo 
  12/01/2004  Jury Trial Set - 01/11/2005 
  01/11/2005  Jury Trial 
  01/11/2005  Charge number 1: Charge Amended From - S 18-8004 M DUI 
  01/11/2005  Charge number 1: To - S 49-1401-3 M INATTE 
  01/11/2005  PT Memo 
  01/11/2005  Charge number 1: Guilty Plea 
  01/11/2005  Charge number 1: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  01/11/2005  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $363.50 
  01/11/2005  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Jail - 60d 57d sp 
  01/11/2005  Charge number 1: Placed on Probation - 12m Standard Terms SUB.ABUSE EVAL-RECS 
  01/11/2005  Charge number 1: Fine Agreement Set - 01/11/2005 
  01/13/2005  Finger Print Card# Sent to BCI - 0100045573 
  01/14/2005  Charge number 1: Disposition reported to D.O.T. - B 1089017 E 
  01/31/2005  Charge number 1: Affidavit Created - Tracking ID:146818 - 01/31/2005 
  02/02/2005  Bench Warrant Created - M0408070.01-01 
  02/02/2005  Amended Complaint 
  02/08/2005  Motion - for BW for PV Fail owes $363.50/2 djail 
  02/15/2005  Bench Warrant Issued - M0408070.01-01 - 02/15/2005 
  02/26/2005  Charge number 2: Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - .01 
  02/26/2005  Charge number 2: Bond Set at - $750.00 
  02/26/2005  Bond Set at - 02/28/2005 
  02/26/2005  Bond Out Clerk Appearance - 03/14/2005 Thru - 03/21/2005 
  02/28/2005  Warrant Return Filed 
  02/28/2005  Event Scheduled - Sentencing Hearing - 06/23/2005 
  02/28/2005  Bond Out Clerk Appearance 
  06/23/2005  Sentence Hearing 
  06/23/2005  Charge number 2: Guilty Plea 
  06/23/2005  Charge number 2: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  06/23/2005  Charge number 2: Sentenced to Jail - 7d 
  06/23/2005  Reorder $363.50 & 2d 
  06/23/2005  Charge number 1: Fine Agreement Set - 06/23/2005 
  06/23/2005  Charge number 1: Fine Agreement Set - 06/23/2005 
  12/07/2006  Letter from Defend 
 
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
State of Idaho vs. Mark Allen Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-MD-2000-0011922
Old Case: M0011922   Magistrate   Judge:  Thomas Watkins   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  10/04/2000  I23-949 Alcoholic Bev-possess/consume/purchase By Minor
Arresting Officer:  Lipple, Kent, BO  844051  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 08/07/2001
Fines/fees: $115.50
 
  10/04/2000  B9-14-3E DRIVING ON AREA OTHER THAN ROADWAY
Arresting Officer:  Lipple, Kent, BO  866825  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 08/07/2001
Fines/fees: $92.50
 
  10/04/2000  B9-14(5I) {M} Description not available
Arresting Officer:  Lipple, Kent, BO  866825  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 08/07/2001
Fines/fees: $63.50
 
  11/08/2000  I19-3901A Failure To Appear For Misdemeanor Citation
Arresting Officer:  zzBCPD,, BO   Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 08/07/2001
Fines/fees: $88.50
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  10/17/2000  Charge number 1: Case Opened 
  10/17/2000  Arraignment - 10/25/2000 
  10/17/2000  Charge number 2: Case Opened 
  10/17/2000  Charge number 3: Case Opened 
  10/26/2000  FTA - Affidavit Issued - 10/25/2000 
  11/08/2000  FTA Warrant Created - M0011922.01-01 
  11/08/2000  Amended Complaint 
  11/29/2000  FTA Warrant Issued - M0011922.01-01 - 11/29/2000 
  04/17/2001  Charge number 1: Reviewed & Retained - Class Update 
  07/01/2001  Charge number 4: Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - .01 
  07/01/2001  Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - 07/02/2001 
  07/02/2001  Bond Out Clerk Appearance - 07/16/2001 Thru - 07/23/2001 
  07/02/2001  Warrant Return Filed 
  07/19/2001  Event Scheduled - Sentencing Hearing - 08/07/2001 
  07/19/2001  Bond Out Clerk Appearance 
  08/07/2001  Sentence Hearing 
  08/07/2001  Charge number 1: Guilty Plea 
  08/07/2001  Charge number 1: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  08/07/2001  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $113.50 
  08/07/2001  Charge number 2: Guilty Plea 
  08/07/2001  Charge number 2: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  08/07/2001  Charge number 2: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $88.50 
  08/07/2001  Charge number 3: Guilty Plea 
  08/07/2001  Charge number 3: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  08/07/2001  Charge number 3: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $63.50 
  08/07/2001  Charge number 4: Guilty Plea 
  08/07/2001  Charge number 4: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  08/07/2001  Charge number 4: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $88.50 
  08/07/2001  D/L Suspension- Judgment 
  08/07/2001  Charge number 1: Fine Agreement Set - 99586 
  08/07/2001  Charge number 1: Partial Payment - A1362682 $5.00 
  08/10/2001  Charge number 2: Disposition reported to D.O.T. - B 0866825 E 
  08/30/2001  Charge number 1: Partial Payment - A1369230 $39.50 
  08/30/2001  Charge number 2: Partial Payment - A1369231 $25.50 
  08/30/2001  Charge number 3: Partial Payment - A1369232 $17.50 
  08/30/2001  Charge number 4: Partial Payment - A1369233 $17.50 
  09/13/2001  Charge number 1: Partial Payment - A1372914 $11.00 
  09/13/2001  Charge number 2: Partial Payment - A1372915 $29.00 
  09/13/2001  Charge number 3: Partial Payment - A1372916 $30.00 
  09/13/2001  Charge number 4: Partial Payment - A1372917 $30.00 
  10/04/2001  Charge number 1: Final Payment - A1378498 $60.00 
  10/04/2001  Charge number 2: Final Payment - A1378499 $38.00 
  10/04/2001  Charge number 3: Final Payment - A1378500 $16.00 
  10/04/2001  Charge number 4: Final Payment - A1378501 $41.00 
 
 
Connection: Public 
 
 https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=ADA&county=Ada&partySeq=1116413&displayName=Whitman%2C+Mark+Allen
 
 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:26:55 AM
1981 Mark Allen Whitman

Ada 
1  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Mark Allen Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-IN-2004-0035794
Old Case: T0435794   Magistrate   Judge:  Magistrate Court Clerk   Amount due:  $132.50  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  07/08/2004  B10-20-02 NOISE PROHIBITIONS - TRAFFIC
Arresting Officer:  Burch, Dave Paul, BO  1089016  Finding: Default Judgment
Disposition date: 07/29/2004
Fines/fees: $132.50
 
  07/08/2004  I49-1232 {I} Insurance-fail To Provide Proof Of Insurance
Arresting Officer:  Burch, Dave Paul, BO  1089016  Finding: Treatment Diversion
Disposition date: 07/23/2004
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  07/15/2004  Charge number 1: Case Opened 
  07/15/2004  Charge number 2: Case Opened 
  07/15/2004  First Appearance - 07/29/2004 
  07/23/2004  First Appearance 
  07/23/2004  Charge number 2: Dismissed- Add'l Evidence Provided 
  07/26/2004  Event Scheduled - First Appearance - 07/29/2004 
  08/04/2004  Charge number 1: Default Judgment - 07/29/2004 
  08/04/2004  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $132.50 - 07/29/2004 
  12/07/2006  Letter from Defend 
  12/14/2006  No response Def Letter 
 
 
Connection: Public 
 
https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=ADA&county=Ada&partySeq=1500341&displayName=Whitman%2C+Mark+Allen
 
 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:28:11 AM
Ada 
1  Cases Found. 
 Case Sealed By Court Rule or Judicial Order 
 
 ::MonkeyEek::

https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=ADA&county=Ada&partySeq=2201820&displayName=Whitman%2C+Mark+Allen


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:29:43 AM
1981 Mark and it says 2nd which is why I think 1961 Mark is his father.  JMO

Ada 
1  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Mark Allen Whitman 2nd 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-MD-1999-0003315
Old Case: M9903315   Magistrate   Judge:  Thomas Watkins   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  03/12/1999  I37-2734(A) {M} Drug Paraphernalia Possession of
Arresting Officer:  Miller, Gary, BO  806236  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 05/13/1999
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
  03/12/1999  I39-5703(2) {M} Tobacco-minor Use False Identification/statements
Arresting Officer:  Miller, Gary, BO  806236  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 05/13/1999
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  03/16/1999  Charge number 1: Case Opened 
  03/16/1999  Charge number 2: Case Opened 
  03/16/1999  Arraignment - 04/02/1999 
  04/02/1999  Event Scheduled - Sentencing Hearing - 05/13/1999 
  04/02/1999  Arraignment 
  05/13/1999  Sentence Hearing 
  05/13/1999  Charge number 1: Guilty Plea 
  05/13/1999  Charge number 1: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  05/13/1999  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Referral - EA 20HRS 
  05/13/1999  Charge number 2: Guilty Plea 
  05/13/1999  Charge number 2: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  05/13/1999  Charge number 2: Sentenced to Referral - EA 20HRS 
  05/13/1999  Order - Black Lung Class 
 
 
Connection: Public 
 
 https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=ADA&county=Ada&partySeq=1216661&displayName=Whitman%2C+Mark+Allen+2nd
 
 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:30:45 AM
Ada 
1  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Mark Allen Whitman 2nd 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-MD-1998-0011112
Old Case: M9811112   Magistrate   Judge:  Thomas R. Morden   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  09/05/1998  I39-5703(2) {M} Tobacco-minor Use False Identification/statements
Arresting Officer:  Dotson, Tony, BO  781704  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 05/04/2000
Fines/fees: $0.00
Jail: 1 day
Credited time (Yes): 1 day
 
  11/02/1998  I19-3901A Failure To Appear For Misdemeanor Citation
Arresting Officer:  zzBCPD,, BO   Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 05/04/2000
Fines/fees: $0.00
Jail: 1 day
Credited time (Yes): 1 day
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  09/17/1998  Charge number 1: Case Opened 
  09/17/1998  Arraignment - 09/25/1998 
  09/28/1998  FTA - Affidavit Issued - 09/25/1998 
  11/02/1998  FTA Warrant Created - M9811112.01-01 
  11/02/1998  Amended Complaint 
  11/17/1998  FTA Warrant Issued - M9811112.01-01 - 11/17/1998 
  12/23/1999  Bond Out Clerk Appearance - 01/06/00 Thru - 01/13/2000 
  12/27/1999  Warrant Return Filed 
  01/14/2000  FTA - Affidavit Issued - 01/13/2000 
  01/14/2000  Bond Forfeiture - 405062 
  01/14/2000  Bench Warrant Created - M9811112.01-02 
  01/19/2000  Bench Warrant Issued - M9811112.01-02 - 01/19/2000 
  04/06/2000  Charge number 1: Reviewed & Retained - Class Update 
  05/01/2000  Payment of Bond Forfeiture R103 - A1235173 $100.00 405 
  05/04/2000  Charge number 2: Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - .02 
  05/04/2000  Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - 05/04/2000 
  05/04/2000  Warrant Return Filed 
  05/04/2000  Video Arraignment 
  05/04/2000  Charge number 1: Guilty Plea 
  05/04/2000  Charge number 1: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  05/04/2000  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $35.00 Allow Serve Off 
  05/04/2000  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Jail - 1d 1d cr 
  05/04/2000  Charge number 2: Guilty Plea 
  05/04/2000  Charge number 2: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  05/04/2000  Charge number 2: Sentenced to Jail - 1d 1d cr 
  05/09/2000  Charge number 1: Serve-Off - A1237184 $35.00 
 
 
Connection: Public 

https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=ADA&county=Ada&partySeq=1213178&displayName=Whitman%2C+Mark+Allen+2nd


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on August 01, 2009, 01:31:06 AM
If he is in the backyard, he has to spend one more night there.
 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::
At least he is safe with God if he is in that backyard.

That is sad ::MonkeyWaa:: BUT, IF he is in that backyard, he's been with God for awhile and is at peace and will never be scared, hungry or sad ever again. ::MonkeyAngel::

I hate to even think of him lying there another night in that filthy place.  It is almost as bad as the landfill.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I agree with that, but HE is not there and he is in heaven if indeed that is his body (and I think it probably is). I know that's the only solace I have when I had to help my daughter hand Eli over to the staff at the hospital, but if I didn't have that to give me some sense of peace and comfort I'd be crazier than I already am.

Island, you don't know how many times a day I think of you and your daughter and little Eli. I know this is the hardest thing you have ever had to face. I admire how you just keep on keeping on. I guess that is the best any of us can do. Just keep hanging onto our faith, even if it is by our fingernails.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks Fanny~I'm just touchy today as we rec'd his photos from NILMDTS and I forgot how beautiful he was ::MonkeyWaa:: I'm hanging woman even if by a thread ::MonkeyAngel::

Awww, now I am bawling. It's great that a NILMDTS volunteer was there to capture those special moments.
Don't cry PA~Those photos are special and beautiful to me, and I'm so grateful to have them........see, I'm OK ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:32:11 AM
Ada 
1  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho Dept. of Health and Welfare vs. Mark Allen Whitman II, etal. 
Case: CV-DR-2008-03903  Magistrate   Filed:  02/26/2008  Subtype:  Domestic Relations   Judge:  Dave Epis   Status:  Closed  06/27/2008 
  Defendants: Hutchison, Sara Marlene  Whitman, Mark Allen II   
  Plaintiffs: State of Idaho Dept. of Health and Welfare   
Disposition:  Date  Judgment Type  Disposition Date  Disposition Type  Parties  In Favor Of 
  06/27/2008  Paternity    Whitman, Mark Allen II (Defendant), Hutchison, Sara Marlene (Defendant), State of Idaho Dept. of Health and Welfare (Plaintiff)  Unknown 
 
Register of actions:  Date   
  02/26/2008  New Case Filed - Domestic Relations 
  02/26/2008  Complaint Filed for Paternity, Medicaid Reimbursement & Child Support (Vail for State) 
  02/26/2008  Summons Filed 
  04/11/2008  Motion For Genetic Testing 
  04/21/2008  Order For Genetic Testing 
  06/13/2008  Acceptance Of Service (4/22/08 Sara) 
  06/13/2008  Affidavit Of Service (4/24/08 Mark) 
  06/13/2008  Notice of Completion & Filing of Genetic Testing Results 
  06/13/2008  Stipulation for Paternity, Medicaid Reimbursement & Child Support (as to Mark only) 
  06/13/2008  Application For Entry of Default 
  06/13/2008  Default Affidavit 
  06/27/2008  Default Order 
  06/27/2008  Paternity & Child Support Judgment & ORder 
 
 
Connection: Public 
 
 https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=ADA&county=Ada&partySeq=416747&displayName=Whitman%2C+Mark+Allen+II
 
 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:33:20 AM
Ada 
4  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Mark Allen Whitman Ii 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-FE-2007-0000485
Old Case: H0700485   District   Judge:  Ronald J. Wilper   Amount due:  $10,400.00  Closed pending clerk action 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  11/16/2006  Original: I37-2732(TM) {F} Description not available
Amended: I37-2732(B)(A)(4) Trafficking in Controlled Substance
Arresting Officer:  ISP,, ISP   Finding: Change Plea to Guilty Before Trial
Disposition date: 11/13/2007
Fines/fees: $10,000.00
Credited time (Yes): 408 days
Det Penitentiary: 10 years
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  04/06/2007  Case Created - Bind Over M0615780 
  04/06/2007  Charge number 1: Committment and Papers 
  04/06/2007  Charge number 1: Defendant Transferred In - M0615780 D.01 
  04/06/2007  Charge number 1: Count Bound From - M0615780 D.01 C.001 
  04/06/2007  Charge number 1: Bond Transferred From - M0615780 D.01 C.001 
  04/06/2007  Event Scheduled - 0900 - 04/17/2007 
  04/09/2007  Information and Papers Filed 
  04/17/2007  Event Continued - entry of plea 
  05/01/2007  Arraignment - (Con't) 
  05/01/2007  Charge number 1: Not Guilty Plea 
  05/01/2007  Event Scheduled - Pre-Trial Conference - 08/07/2007 
  05/01/2007  Jury Trial Set - 08/15/2007 
  05/17/2007  Motion - for PH Transcripts 
  05/21/2007  Order - for Transcripts 
  05/21/2007  State/City Request for Discovery 
  05/23/2007  Estimated Cost of Transcript 
  05/31/2007  Notice - of Payment of Estimated Cost of Transcript 
  06/22/2007  State/City Response to Disc. Req. 
  07/03/2007  PH Transcript Filed 
  08/07/2007  Pre-Trial Conference 
  08/07/2007  Jury Trial Set - 10/17/2007 
  08/07/2007  Event Scheduled - Pre-Trial Conference - 10/09/2007 
  08/07/2007  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 09/04/2007 
  08/10/2007  Notice - of Jury Trial 
  09/04/2007  Hearing 
  09/21/2007  Motion - To Suppress Or Dismiss 
  09/21/2007  Letter From Weigt 
  09/24/2007  Motion Hearing 
  09/24/2007  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 11/02/2007 
  11/02/2007  Hearing 
  11/02/2007  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 11/13/2007 
  11/13/2007  Hearing 
  11/13/2007  Charge number 1: Change Plea to Guilty Before Trial 
  11/13/2007  Event Scheduled - Sentencing Hearing - 12/18/2007 
  11/16/2007  Plea Form 
  12/18/2007  Sentence Hearing 
  12/18/2007  Charge number 1: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  12/18/2007  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $10000.00 
  12/18/2007  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Restitute - $400.00 
  12/18/2007  Charge number 1: Sentenced to ISCI - 10y 408d cr 
  12/19/2007  Judgment of Convict- ion 
  05/29/2008  Restitution Recommended by the Prosecutor's office. 400.00 victim # 1 
  05/29/2008  STATUS CHANGED: Closed pending clerk action 
 
 
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State of Idaho vs. Mark Allen Whitman Ii 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-MD-2006-0015780
Old Case: M0615780   Magistrate   Judge:  Theresa Gardunia   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  11/16/2006  Original: I37-2732(TM) {F} Description not available
Amended: I37-2732(B)(A)(4) Trafficking in Controlled Substance
Arresting Officer:  ISP,, ISP   Finding: Defendant Bound Over
Disposition date: 04/06/2007
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  11/17/2006  Case Created 
  11/17/2006  Case Opened 
  11/17/2006  Video Arraignment - 11/17/2006 
  11/17/2006  Charge number 1: Charge Booked by ACSO 
  11/17/2006  Charge number 1: Charge Amended by Prosecutor 
  11/17/2006  Video Arraignment - Video Arraignment - 11/17/2006 
  11/17/2006  Charge number 1: Charge Filed Cause Found 
  11/17/2006  Video Arraignment 
  11/17/2006  Charge number 1: Bond Reduced or Amended to - $150000.00 
  11/17/2006  Event Scheduled - Preliminary Hearing - 12/01/2006 
  12/01/2006  Event Scheduled - Preliminary Hearing - 12/19/2006 
  12/07/2006  Letter from Defend 
  12/19/2006  Event Scheduled - Preliminary Hearing - 01/25/2007 
  01/12/2007  Notice - of Appear/Weigt 
  01/12/2007  Defendant Request For Discovery 
  01/25/2007  Event Scheduled - Preliminary Hearing - 03/28/2007 
  03/28/2007  Event Scheduled - Preliminary Hearing - 04/06/2007 
  04/06/2007  Charge number 1: Defendant Bound Over - H0700485 D.01 
  04/06/2007  Charge number 1: Count Bound To - H0700485 D.01 C.001 
  04/06/2007  Charge number 1: Bond Transferred To - H0700485 D.01 C.001 
 
 
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State of Idaho vs. Mark Allen Whitman Ii 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-FE-2005-0000754
Old Case: H0500754   District   Judge:  Joel Horton   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  05/15/2005  Original: I18-905(A) Assault-aggravated(use Deadly Weapon/instrument)
Amended: IX18-905-B {F} ASSAULT AGGRAVATED
Arresting Officer:  zzBCPD,, BO   Finding: Transfered to Lower Court
Disposition date: 08/19/2005
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
  05/15/2005  I18-705 Officers-resisting Or Obstructing Officers
Arresting Officer:  zzBCPD,, BO   Finding: Transfered to Lower Court
Disposition date: 08/19/2005
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  05/27/2005  Case Created - Bind Over M0505833 
  05/27/2005  Charge number 1: Committment and Papers 
  05/27/2005  Charge number 1: Defendant Transferred In - M0505833 D.01 
  05/27/2005  Charge number 1: Count Bound From - M0505833 D.01 C.001 
  05/27/2005  Charge number 1: Bond Transferred From - M0505833 D.01 C.001 
  05/27/2005  Charge number 2: Count Bound From - M0505833 D.01 C.002 
  05/27/2005  Charge number 2: Bond Transferred From - M0505833 D.01 C.002 
  05/27/2005  Event Scheduled - 0900 - 06/08/2005 
  05/31/2005  Information and Papers Filed 
  06/01/2005  Notice - of Hearing 
  06/01/2005  Motion - for Bond Reduction 
  06/06/2005  Defendant Request For Discovery - /Specific 
  06/06/2005  Motion - for PH Transcript 
  06/08/2005  Arraignment 
  06/08/2005  Charge number 1: Not Guilty Plea 
  06/08/2005  Charge number 2: Not Guilty Plea 
  06/08/2005  Jury Trial Set - 08/11/2005 
  06/08/2005  Event Scheduled - Pre-Trial Conference - 08/05/2005 
  06/08/2005  Order - Gov. Further Proc. 
  06/08/2005  Order - for PH Transcript 
  06/13/2005  Notice - of Preparation of Transcript 
  06/15/2005  State/City Request for Discovery 
  07/05/2005  PH Transcript Filed 
  07/11/2005  State/City Response to Disc. Req. 
  07/21/2005  Motion - to Continue 
  07/25/2005  Notice - of Hearing 
  07/25/2005  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 07/27/2005 
  07/27/2005  Hearing 
  07/27/2005  Jury Trial Set - 08/25/2005 
  07/27/2005  Event Scheduled - Pre-Trial Conference - 08/19/2005 
  07/27/2005  Notice - of Reset 
  08/19/2005  Charge number 1: Count Remanded To - M0505833 D.01 C.001 
  08/19/2005  Charge number 1: Bond Transferred To - M0505833 D.01 C.001 
  08/19/2005  Charge number 2: Count Remanded To - M0505833 D.01 C.002 
  08/19/2005  Notice - of Remand 
  09/08/2005  Motion - to Dismiss 
  09/09/2005  Order - to Dismiss 
 
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
State of Idaho vs. Mark Allen Whitman Ii 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-MD-2005-0001723
Old Case: M0501723   Magistrate   Judge:  Thomas Watkins   Amount due:  $427.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  02/06/2005  I18-3001 False Personation
Arresting Officer:  Brady, Tim E, BO  1131274  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 04/13/2006
Fines/fees: $163.50
 
  02/06/2005  I49-316 Drivers License-fail To Carry On Person
Arresting Officer:  Brady, Tim E, BO  1131274  Finding: Order for Dismissal
Disposition date: 04/13/2006
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
  02/05/2005  Original: I18-3001 False Personation
Amended: I VALID OPERATOR OR CHAUFFER LIC. REQUIRED
Arresting Officer:  zzBCPD,, BO   Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 04/13/2006
Fines/fees: $263.50
Jail: 10 days
Credited time (Yes): 5 days
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  02/10/2005  Case Created 
  02/10/2005  Case Opened 
  02/10/2005  Bond Out Clerk Appearance - 02/22/2005 Thru - 02/28/2005 
  02/10/2005  Charge number 2: Charge Booked by ACSO - -Citation B 131274 
  02/10/2005  Charge number 2: Finger Print Card# Added - 0055766 
  02/10/2005  Charge number 2: Bond Set at - 77 LG5-285275 
  02/10/2005  Charge number 2: Bonded Posted - 77 LG5-285275 
  02/10/2005  Charge number 2: Type of Bond Posted - - SURETY 
  02/10/2005  Charge number 2: Bonded By - ALADDIN BAIL BONDS 
  02/10/2005  Charge number 1: Charge Booked by ACSO - -Citation B 131274 
  02/10/2005  Charge number 1: Bond Set at - 300 LG5-285276 
  02/10/2005  Charge number 1: Bonded Posted - 300 LG5-285276 
  02/10/2005  Charge number 1: Type of Bond Posted - - SURETY 
  02/10/2005  Charge number 1: Bonded By - ALADDIN BAIL BONDS 
  02/10/2005  Charge number 3: Additional Charge Filed 
  02/28/2005  Event Scheduled - Sentencing Hearing - 06/20/2005 
  02/28/2005  Bond Out Clerk Appearance 
  06/20/2005  Bench Warrant Created - M0501723.01-01 
  06/20/2005  Charge number 1: Bond Forfeiture - LG5-285276 
  06/20/2005  Charge number 2: Bond Forfeiture - LG5-285275 
  06/21/2005  Bench Warrant Issued - M0501723.01-01 - 06/21/2005 
  07/08/2005  Charge number 3: Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - .01 
  07/08/2005  Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - 07/11/2005 
  07/08/2005  Bond Out Clerk Appearance - 07/22/2005 Thru - 07/29/2005 
  07/11/2005  Warrant Return Filed 
  07/19/2005  Motion - to Exon/Sheriff Cert 
  07/19/2005  Motion - to Exon/Sheriff Cert 
  07/20/2005  Order - Exonerating bond 394 
  07/20/2005  Charge number 1: Exoneration of Bond - LG5-285276 - 07/20/2005 
  07/22/2005  Order - Exonerating Bond 394 
  07/22/2005  Charge number 2: Exoneration of Bond - LG5-285275 - 07/22/2005 
  07/27/2005  Bond Out Clerk Appearance 
  07/27/2005  Event Scheduled - Sentencing Hearing - 11/17/2005 
  11/17/2005  Sentence Hearing 
  11/17/2005  Reset SH per Defend 
  11/17/2005  Event Scheduled - Sentencing Hearing - 03/17/2006 
  03/17/2006  Bond Forfeiture - LG5-326183 
  03/20/2006  Bench Warrant Created - M0501723.01-02 
  03/24/2006  Bench Warrant Issued - M0501723.01-02 - 03/24/2006 
  04/12/2006  Charge number 3: Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - .02 
  04/12/2006  Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - 04/13/2006 
  04/13/2006  Warrant Return Filed 
  04/13/2006  Video Arraignment - Video Arraignment - 04/13/2006 
  04/13/2006  Video Arraignment 
  04/13/2006  Order Appointing Public Defender 
  04/13/2006  Charge number 1: Guilty Plea 
  04/13/2006  Charge number 1: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  04/13/2006  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $263.50 
  04/13/2006  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Jail - 10d 5d cr 
  04/13/2006  Charge number 2: Guilty Plea 
  04/13/2006  Charge number 2: Order for Dismissal 
  04/13/2006  Charge number 1: Fine Agreement Set - 04/13/2006 
  04/13/2006  Charge number 3: Guilty Plea 
  04/13/2006  Charge number 3: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  04/13/2006  Charge number 3: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $263.50 
  04/13/2006  Charge number 3: Sentenced to Jail - 10d 5d cr 
  04/21/2006  Motion - to Exon/Sheriff Cert 
  05/04/2006  Exoneration of Bond - LG5-326183 - 05/04/2006 
  05/04/2006  Order - Exonerating Bond 
  05/09/2006  Charge number 1: Judgment Corrected 
  05/09/2006  Charge number 1: Judgment Corrected - S 18-3001 FALSE PE 
  05/09/2006  Charge number 1: Sentence Modified- - Fines 
  05/09/2006  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $163.50 
  05/09/2006  Charge number 1: Sentence Removed- - Incarceration 
  05/11/2006  Finger Print Card# Sent to BCI - 0100055766 
  12/07/2006  Letter from Defend 
 
 
Connection: Public 
 
https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=ADA&county=Ada&partySeq=1103016&displayName=Whitman%2C+Mark+Allen+Ii
 
 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on August 01, 2009, 01:34:09 AM
Ada 
1  Cases Found. 
 Case Sealed By Court Rule or Judicial Order 
 
 ::MonkeyEek::

https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=ADA&county=Ada&partySeq=2201820&displayName=Whitman%2C+Mark+Allen

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyWaa::

When my son was molested at 3yrs old, all the records of everyone involved were sealed ::MonkeyNoNo:: I sure as hell hope that isn't the case, but they seal them to protect the juvenile ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:36:13 AM
1  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Mark A Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-MD-2006-0000992
Old Case: M0600992   Magistrate   Judge:  Michael Oths   Amount due:  $222.50  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  01/11/2006  I37-2734(A) {M} Drug Paraphernalia Possession of
Arresting Officer:  Andreoli, Joe E, BO  1163697  Finding: Change Plea to Guilty Before Trial
Disposition date: 06/05/2006
Fines/fees: $222.50
 
  01/11/2006  IX37-2732-D {M} FREQUENTING
Arresting Officer:  Andreoli, Joe E, BO  1163697  Finding: Order for Dismissal
Disposition date: 06/05/2006
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  01/20/2006  Charge number 1: Case Opened 
  01/20/2006  Charge number 2: Case Opened 
  01/20/2006  Arraignment - 02/01/2006 
  01/27/2006  Arraignment 
  01/27/2006  Charge number 1: Not Guilty Plea 
  01/27/2006  Charge number 2: Not Guilty Plea 
  01/27/2006  Order Appointing Public Defender 
  01/27/2006  Jury Trial Set - 06/30/2006 
  01/27/2006  Event Scheduled - Pre-Trial Conference - 06/05/2006 
  02/13/2006  Defendant Request For Discovery 
  02/22/2006  State/City Request for Discovery 
  02/22/2006  State/City Response to Disc. Req. 
  06/05/2006  Pre-Trial Conference 
  06/05/2006  Charge number 1: Change Plea to Guilty Before Trial 
  06/05/2006  Charge number 1: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  06/05/2006  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $222.50 
  06/05/2006  Charge number 2: Order for Dismissal 
  06/09/2006  Letter to Def./FA 
  12/07/2006  Letter from Defend 
  12/14/2006  Response to Letter 
 
 
Connection: Public 
 
 https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=ADA&county=Ada&partySeq=1150563&displayName=Whitman%2C+Mark+A
 
 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 01, 2009, 01:36:21 AM
If he is in the backyard, he has to spend one more night there.
 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::
At least he is safe with God if he is in that backyard.

That is sad ::MonkeyWaa:: BUT, IF he is in that backyard, he's been with God for awhile and is at peace and will never be scared, hungry or sad ever again. ::MonkeyAngel::

I hate to even think of him lying there another night in that filthy place.  It is almost as bad as the landfill.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I agree with that, but HE is not there and he is in heaven if indeed that is his body (and I think it probably is). I know that's the only solace I have when I had to help my daughter hand Eli over to the staff at the hospital, but if I didn't have that to give me some sense of peace and comfort I'd be crazier than I already am.

You are one of the strongest people I know.  I think of you and your daughter and son often and hope you are healing.  If sheer determination alone could have kept Eli alive, he would still be here.  Sadly, little guys wear out.  I am so, so sorry, IM.  I am forever changed by your family.





Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:37:07 AM
Ada 
1  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Mark A Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-MD-2004-0012932
Old Case: M0412932   Magistrate   Judge:  Kevin Swain   Amount due:  $367.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  10/16/2004  I18-8001 Driving Without Privileges
Arresting Officer:  Unknown Officer,, GC  156127  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 07/21/2005
Fines/fees: $228.50
Jail: 2 days
 
  11/29/2004  I19-3901A Failure To Appear For Misdemeanor Citation
Arresting Officer:  Unknown Officer,, GC   Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 07/21/2005
Fines/fees: $138.50
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  10/25/2004  Charge number 1: Case Opened 
  10/25/2004  Arraignment - 11/05/2004 
  11/08/2004  FTA - Affidavit Issued - 11/05/2004 
  11/29/2004  FTA Warrant Created - M0412932.01-01 
  11/29/2004  Amended Complaint 
  12/17/2004  FTA Warrant Issued - M0412932.01-01 - 12/17/2004 
  02/06/2005  Charge number 2: Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - .01 
  02/06/2005  Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - 02/07/2005 
  02/07/2005  Bond Out Clerk Appearance - 02/22/2005 Thru - 02/28/2005 
  02/07/2005  Warrant Return Filed 
  02/07/2005  Warrant Return Filed 
  02/28/2005  Event Scheduled - Sentencing Hearing - 07/21/2005 
  02/28/2005  Bond Out Clerk Appearance 
  07/21/2005  Sentence Hearing 
  07/21/2005  Charge number 1: Guilty Plea 
  07/21/2005  Charge number 1: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  07/21/2005  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $228.50 
  07/21/2005  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Jail - 2d 
  07/21/2005  Charge number 2: Guilty Plea 
  07/21/2005  Charge number 2: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  07/21/2005  Charge number 2: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $138.50 
  07/21/2005  D/L Suspension- Judgment 
  07/26/2005  Letter to Def./FA 
  12/07/2006  Letter from Defend 
  12/12/2006  Def Letter CC GC FE 
 
 
Connection: Public 
 
 https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=ADA&county=Ada&partySeq=1142399&displayName=Whitman%2C+Mark+A
 
 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cartfly on August 01, 2009, 01:37:24 AM
Will do thanks for the reply. I will email you. We are leaving in the
AM. Thanks!!

YW~That's funny, we could actually be there at the same time....I did find this for you though:

http://www.watervilleusa.com/flash.html

It list who is able to get discounted tickets due to age, size etc., but I'll check to see if any of the hotels/condos have discount tickets for you.
Thanks a bunch!!!! I will have to see if my 6 year old may get a discount. Fortunately, I am not old enough for the Senior Citizen discount yet .....!! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Mtnmom on August 01, 2009, 01:37:35 AM
boy Im just seeing this all. Why did the judge show such leiniency (sp?) to the mother when she fractured her babies skull? It appears the mother is suspected in this childs disappearance too? Its very good to see they had more than a 1,000 searchers out looking. Hopefully they find him soon.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:39:01 AM
Ok that is all for 1981 Mark Allen that I can find,  Now 1961 Mark Allen.

1961 Mark Allen Whitman

Ada 
3  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Mark Allen Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-FE-2006-0000748
Old Case: H0600748   District   Judge:  Deborah Bail   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  03/27/2006  Original: I37-2732 {F} Controlled Substance Violation
Amended: I37-2732(C)(1) Controlled Substance-possession Of
Arresting Officer:  Johnson, Bryce, GC   Finding: Transferred
Disposition date: 08/22/2006
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  06/12/2006  Case Created - Bind Over M0604019 
  06/12/2006  Charge number 1: Committment and Papers 
  06/12/2006  Charge number 1: Defendant Transferred In - M0604019 D.01 
  06/12/2006  Charge number 1: Count Bound From - M0604019 D.01 C.001 
  06/12/2006  Charge number 1: Bond Transferred From - M0604019 D.01 C.001 
  06/12/2006  Event Scheduled - 1330 - 06/19/2006 
  06/14/2006  Information and Papers Filed 
  06/19/2006  Arraignment 
  06/19/2006  Charge number 1: Not Guilty Plea 
  06/19/2006  Jury Trial Set - 08/22/2006 
  06/19/2006  Event Scheduled - Pre-Trial Conference - 08/10/2006 
  06/19/2006  Motion - for PH Transcript 
  06/21/2006  Order - For PH Transcripts 
  06/21/2006  Notice - Of Trial Setting 
  06/22/2006  Est Transcript Cost 
  07/12/2006  State/City Request for Discovery 
  07/12/2006  State/City Response to Disc. Req. 
  07/20/2006  Motion - to Suppress Evidence 
  07/20/2006  Affid in Support 
  07/21/2006  Notice - of Payment of Estimated Cost of Transcript 
  08/08/2006  State/City Response to Disc. Req. - /Addendum 
  08/10/2006  Pre-Trial Conference 
  08/10/2006  Event Scheduled - Suppression Hearing - 08/18/2006 
  08/11/2006  Memorandum in Suppor 
  08/14/2006  Transcript Filed 
  08/18/2006  Suppression Hearing 
  08/22/2006  Decision and Order RE: Motion to Suppress 
  08/22/2006  Charge number 1: Dismissed Before Trial or Hearing 
 
 
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State of Idaho vs. Mark Allen Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-MD-2006-0004019
Old Case: M0604019   Magistrate   Judge:  Thomas Watkins   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  03/27/2006  Original: I37-2732 {F} Controlled Substance Violation
Amended: I37-2732(C)(1) Controlled Substance-possession Of
Arresting Officer:  Unknown Officer,, GC   Finding: Defendant Bound Over
Disposition date: 06/12/2006
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  03/28/2006  Case Created 
  03/28/2006  Case Opened 
  03/28/2006  Video Arraignment - 03/28/2006 
  03/28/2006  Charge number 1: Charge Booked by ACSO 
  03/28/2006  Charge number 1: Charge Amended by Prosecutor 
  03/28/2006  Charge number 1: Finger Print Card# Added - 0076313 
  03/28/2006  Video Arraignment - Video Arraignment - 03/28/2006 
  03/28/2006  Charge number 1: Charge Filed Cause Found 
  03/28/2006  Video Arraignment 
  03/28/2006  Order Appointing Public Defender 
  03/28/2006  Charge number 1: Bond Reduced or Amended to - $5000.00 
  03/28/2006  Event Scheduled - Preliminary Hearing - 04/11/2006 
  03/31/2006  Defendant Request For Discovery 
  04/11/2006  Event Scheduled - Preliminary Hearing - 05/05/2006 
  04/25/2006  Notice - of Appear/Defranco 
  05/02/2006  Defendant Request For Discovery 
  05/05/2006  Event Scheduled - Preliminary Hearing - 05/23/2006 
  05/19/2006  Event Scheduled - Preliminary Hearing - 05/23/2006 
  05/23/2006  Event Scheduled - Preliminary Hearing - 06/12/2006 
  06/12/2006  Charge number 1: Defendant Bound Over - H0600748 D.01 
  06/12/2006  Charge number 1: Count Bound To - H0600748 D.01 C.001 
  06/12/2006  Charge number 1: Bond Transferred To - H0600748 D.01 C.001 
  06/12/2006  Preliminary Hearing 
  06/15/2006  Finger Print Card# Sent to BCI - 0100076313 
 
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
State of Idaho vs. Mark Allen Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-IN-2001-0013926
Old Case: T0113926   Magistrate   Judge:  Thomas Watkins   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  03/21/2001  I49-654(1) Basic Rule Violation - Too Fast For Conditions-
Arresting Officer:  zzBCPD,, BO  856696  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 06/05/2001
Fines/fees: $53.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  03/27/2001  Charge number 1: Case Opened 
  03/27/2001  First Appearance - 04/11/2001 
  04/10/2001  Court Trial Set - 06/05/2001 
  04/10/2001  First Appearance 
  06/05/2001  Charge number 1: Guilty Plea 
  06/05/2001  Charge number 1: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  06/05/2001  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $53.00 
  06/05/2001  Charge number 1: Final Payment for traffic case - A1345107 $53.00 
  06/08/2001  Charge number 1: Disposition reported to D.O.T. - B 0856696 E 
 
 
Connection: Public 

https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=ADA&county=Ada&partySeq=1103954&displayName=Whitman%2C+Mark+Allen


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:40:35 AM
Ada 
2  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho Dept. of Health and Welfare vs. Mark Allen Whitman 
Case: CV-DR-2009-04363  Magistrate   Filed:  03/06/2009  Subtype:  Domestic Relations   Judge:  Dave Epis   Status:  Closed  03/26/2009 
  Defendants: Whitman, Mark Allen   
  Plaintiffs: State of Idaho Dept. of Health and Welfare   
Disposition:  Date  Judgment Type  Disposition Date  Disposition Type  Parties  In Favor Of 
  03/26/2009  Dismissal of Case    Whitman, Mark Allen (Defendant), State of Idaho Dept. of Health and Welfare (Plaintiff)  Unknown 
 
Register of actions:  Date   
  03/06/2009  New Case Filed - Domestic Relations 
  03/06/2009  Establishment Complaint for State Reimbursement 
  03/06/2009  Summons Filed 
  03/24/2009  Motion To Dismiss Case 
  03/26/2009  Order of Dismissal of Case 
  03/26/2009  STATUS CHANGED: Closed 
 
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
State of Idaho vs. Mark Allen Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-IN-1998-0028336
Old Case: T9828336   Magistrate   Judge:  Tim Hansen   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  07/22/1998  I49-802 Traffic Control Devices-fail To Obey
Arresting Officer:  Allen, Richard, GC  101070  Finding: Order for Dismissal
Disposition date: 01/12/1999
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
  07/22/1998  I49-1232 {I} Insurance-fail To Provide Proof Of Insurance
Arresting Officer:  Allen, Richard, GC  101070  Finding: Treatment Diversion
Disposition date: 08/28/1998
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  07/29/1998  Charge number 1: Case Opened 
  07/29/1998  Charge number 2: Case Opened 
  07/29/1998  First Appearance - 08/10/1998 
  08/10/1998  Court Trial Set - 01/12/1999 
  08/10/1998  First Appearance 
  08/10/1998  Charge number 1: Not Guilty Plea 
  08/10/1998  Charge number 2: Not Guilty Plea 
  08/28/1998  Charge number 2: Dismissed- Add'l Evidence Provided 
  01/12/1999  Charge number 1: Order for Dismissal 
 
 
Connection: Public 
 
 https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=ADA&county=Ada&partySeq=2058873&displayName=Whitman%2C+Mark+Allen
 
 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 01, 2009, 01:41:11 AM
I was going to bed two hours ago. Hubby is already in bed with the pillow over his head again.

Good night ya'll. And God Bless little Robert.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Nite and hugs to hubby.

 ::MonkeyConfused::



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:41:32 AM
Ada 
1  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho Dept. of Health and Welfare vs. Mark Allen Whitman 
Case: CV-SP-2008-21438  Magistrate   Filed:  11/07/2008  Subtype:  Support Proceedings   Judge:  Dave Epis   Status:  Closed  03/25/2009 
  Defendants: Whitman, Mark Allen   
  Plaintiffs: State of Idaho Dept. of Health and Welfare   
Disposition:  Date  Judgment Type  Disposition Date  Disposition Type  Parties  In Favor Of 
  03/25/2009  Dismissal of Case    Whitman, Mark Allen (Defendant), State of Idaho Dept. of Health and Welfare (Plaintiff)  Unknown 
 
Register of actions:  Date   
  11/07/2008  New Case Filed - Support Proceedings 
  11/07/2008  Establishment Complaint for Support of Child in Foster Care 
  11/07/2008  Summons Filed 
  03/24/2009  Motion To Dismiss Case 
  03/25/2009  Order of Dismissal of Case 
  03/25/2009  STATUS CHANGED: Closed 
 
https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=ADA&county=Ada&partySeq=2178802&displayName=Whitman%2C+Mark+Allen


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:43:01 AM
Ada 
3  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Mark A Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-MD-2000-0011124
Old Case: M0011124   Magistrate   Judge:  Christopher Bieter   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  09/29/2000  IX37-2732-SP {F} CONTROLLED SUB POSS (SYNTHETIC)
Arresting Officer:  Unknown Officer,, AD   Finding: P/H Waived, Defendant Bound Over
Disposition date: 09/29/2000
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
  09/29/2000  IX37-2732-MP {M} MARIJUANA POSSESSION
Arresting Officer:  zzBCPD,, BO  865850  Finding: P/H Waived, Defendant Bound Over
Disposition date: 09/29/2000
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  09/29/2000  Case Created 
  09/29/2000  Case Opened 
  09/29/2000  Video Arraignment - 09/29/2000 
  09/29/2000  Charge number 1: Charge Booked by ACSO 
  09/29/2000  Charge number 2: Charge Booked by ACSO - -Citation A 865850 
  09/29/2000  Video Arraignment - Video Arraignment - 09/29/2000 
  09/29/2000  Charge number 1: Charge Filed Cause Found 
  09/29/2000  Charge number 2: Charge Filed Cause Found 
  09/29/2000  Charge number 1: P/H Waived, Defendant Bound Over - H0001000 D.01 
  09/29/2000  Charge number 1: Count Bound To - H0001000 D.01 C.001 
  09/29/2000  Charge number 2: Count Bound To - H0001000 D.01 C.002 
 
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
State of Idaho vs. Mark A Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-FE-2000-0001000
Old Case: H0001000   District   Judge:  Ronald Drug Court (Wilper)   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  09/29/2000  IX37-2732-SP {F} CONTROLLED SUB POSS (SYNTHETIC)
Arresting Officer:  Unknown Officer,, AD   Finding: Transferred
Disposition date: 07/18/2002
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
  09/29/2000  IX37-2732-MP {M} MARIJUANA POSSESSION
Arresting Officer:  Unknown Officer,, AD   Finding: Transferred
Disposition date: 11/01/2000
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  09/29/2000  Case Created - Bind Over M0011124 
  09/29/2000  Charge number 1: Committment and Papers 
  09/29/2000  Charge number 1: Defendant Transferred In - M0011124 D.01 
  09/29/2000  Charge number 1: Count Bound From - M0011124 D.01 C.001 
  09/29/2000  Charge number 2: Count Bound From - M0011124 D.01 C.002 
  09/29/2000  Event Scheduled - 1600 - 10/18/2000 
  10/02/2000  Notice - Appointing PD 
  10/03/2000  Defendant Request For Discovery 
  10/12/2000  Information and Papers Filed 
  10/18/2000  Drug Court Arraignment - Drug Court Arraignme - 10/25/2000 
  10/25/2000  Arraignment 
  10/25/2000  Continued For Plea 
  11/01/2000  Arraignment - (Con't) 
  11/01/2000  Charge number 1: Guilty Plea 
  11/01/2000  Charge number 2: Dismissed Before Trial or Hearing 
  11/01/2000  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 11/22/2000 
  11/01/2000  Guilty Plea Form 
  11/01/2000  Consent to Future 
  11/01/2000  Contact 
  11/01/2000  Phase I - Contract 
  11/22/2000  Hearing 
  11/22/2000  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 12/13/2000 
  12/06/2000  Hearing 
  12/06/2000  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 12/20/2000 
  12/20/2000  Hearing 
  12/20/2000  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 01/10/2001 
  12/27/2000  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 12/06/2000 
  01/10/2001  Hearing 
  01/10/2001  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 02/07/2001 
  02/07/2001  Hearing 
  02/07/2001  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 03/07/2001 
  02/07/2001  Phase 2 Contract 
  03/07/2001  Hearing 
  03/07/2001  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 04/04/2001 
  04/04/2001  Hearing 
  04/04/2001  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 05/02/2001 
  05/02/2001  Hearing 
  05/02/2001  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 06/13/2001 
  05/03/2001  Phase III Contract 
  06/13/2001  Hearing 
  06/13/2001  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 07/18/2001 
  07/18/2001  Hearing 
  07/18/2001  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 08/15/2001 
  08/15/2001  Hearing 
  08/15/2001  Phase IV Contract 
  08/15/2001  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 09/19/2001 
  09/19/2001  Hearing 
  09/19/2001  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 10/17/2001 
  10/17/2001  Hearing 
  10/17/2001  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 11/14/2001 
  10/17/2001  Additional Drug Court Conditions 
  10/23/2001  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 10/24/2001 
  10/24/2001  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 10/31/2001 
  10/31/2001  Hearing 
  10/31/2001  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 11/07/2001 
  11/07/2001  Hearing 
  11/07/2001  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 11/21/2001 
  11/21/2001  Hearing 
  11/21/2001  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 12/12/2001 
  12/12/2001  Hearing 
  12/12/2001  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 01/09/2002 
  12/12/2001  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 01/02/2002 
  01/02/2002  Hearing 
  01/02/2002  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 01/30/2002 
  01/03/2002  Phase III Contract 
  01/30/2002  Hearing 
  01/30/2002  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 02/02/2000 
  01/30/2002  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 02/27/2002 
  02/27/2002  Hearing 
  02/27/2002  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 04/03/2002 
  02/28/2002  Phase 4 Contract 
  04/03/2002  Hearing 
  04/03/2002  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 05/08/2002 
  05/08/2002  Hearing 
  05/08/2002  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 06/05/2002 
  06/05/2002  Hearing 
  06/05/2002  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 07/03/2002 
  07/03/2002  Hearing 
  07/03/2002  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 07/17/2002 
  07/18/2002  Hearing 
  07/18/2002  Charge number 1: Dismissed Before Trial or Hearing 
  07/18/2002  Motion - & Order to W/D Plea & Dismiss Case 
 
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
State of Idaho vs. Mark A Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-IN-1990-0022556
Old Case: T9022556   Magistrate   Judge:  Kay Hamilton   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  07/14/1990  I49-1232 {M} Insurance-fail To Provide Proof Of Insurance
Arresting Officer:  ISP,, ISP   Finding: Defendant Found Guilty
Disposition date: 08/09/1990
Fines/fees: $70.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  07/18/1990  Charge number 1: Case Opened Arraignment Set 
  08/09/1990  Charge number 1: Guilty Plea 
  08/09/1990  Charge number 1: Defendant Found Guilty 
  08/09/1990  Charge number 1: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  08/09/1990  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $70.00 
  08/27/1990  Charge number 1: Final Payment - A441164 $70.00 
  06/03/1999  CIT S-0938311 PURGED 
 
 
Connection: Public 
 
 https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=ADA&county=Ada&partySeq=308&displayName=Whitman%2C+Mark+A+%28AKA+for+Whitman%2C+Mark+A%29
 
 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:44:12 AM
Ada 
1  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Mark A Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-IN-2001-0010373
Old Case: T0110373   Magistrate   Judge:  Magistrate Court Clerk   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  02/24/2001  I49-654(2) Speed-exceed Maximum Speed Limit
Arresting Officer:  Furniss, Mark, GC  129989  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 03/13/2001
Fines/fees: $53.00
 
  02/24/2001  I49-673 Safety Restraint-Fail To Use
Arresting Officer:  Furniss, Mark, GC  129989  Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 03/13/2001
Fines/fees: $5.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  03/05/2001  Charge number 1: Case Opened 
  03/05/2001  Charge number 2: Case Opened 
  03/05/2001  First Appearance - 03/16/2001 
  03/13/2001  Charge number 1: Guilty Plea 
  03/13/2001  Charge number 1: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  03/13/2001  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $53.00 
  03/13/2001  Charge number 1: Final Payment for traffic case - A1319019 $53.00 
  03/13/2001  Charge number 2: Guilty Plea 
  03/13/2001  Charge number 2: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  03/13/2001  Charge number 2: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $5.00 
  03/13/2001  Charge number 2: Final Payment for traffic case - A1319020 $5.00 
  03/16/2001  Charge number 1: Disposition reported to D.O.T. - G 0129989 E 
 
 
Connection: Public 
 
 https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=ADA&county=Ada&partySeq=1287845&displayName=Whitman%2C+Mark+A
 
 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:45:09 AM
Ada 
1  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Mark A Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-IN-2004-0031017
Old Case: T0431017   Magistrate   Judge:  Magistrate Court Clerk   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  06/14/2004  I49-1229 Insurance-fail To Maintain Liability Insurance
Arresting Officer:  zzUnknown Officer,, AD  1065878  Finding: Treatment Diversion
Disposition date: 07/01/2004
Fines/fees: $0.00
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  06/18/2004  Charge number 1: Case Opened 
  06/18/2004  First Appearance - 07/06/2004 
  07/01/2004  First Appearance 
  07/01/2004  Charge number 1: Dismissed- Add'l Evidence Provided 
 
https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=ADA&county=Ada&partySeq=1495891&displayName=Whitman%2C+Mark+A


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:46:05 AM
Ada 
1  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Mark A Whitman 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-IN-2004-0040743
Old Case: T0440743   Magistrate   Judge:  Michael Reardon   Amount due:  $0.00  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  08/04/2004  I49-1401(3) Driving-inattentive/careless
Arresting Officer:  Beaumont, Jim, GC  150698  Finding: Bond Forfeited (ITD Conviction)
Disposition date: 03/21/2005
Fines/fees: $213.50
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  08/10/2004  Charge number 1: Case Opened 
  08/10/2004  Arraignment - 08/25/2004 
  08/19/2004  Event Scheduled - Sentencing Hearing - 12/03/2004 
  08/19/2004  Arraignment 
  12/03/2004  Court Trial Set - 03/21/2005 
  12/03/2004  Charge number 1: Not Guilty Plea 
  12/03/2004  CT to Set 
  03/21/2005  Charge number 1: Bond Forfeiture/Final Disposition - 03/21/2005 
  03/21/2005  Charge number 1: Final Payment for traffic case - A1747668 $213.50 
  03/25/2005  Charge number 1: Disposition reported to D.O.T. - G 0150698 E 
 
 
Connection: Public 

https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=ADA&county=Ada&partySeq=1504938&displayName=Whitman%2C+Mark+A


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on August 01, 2009, 01:46:23 AM
If he is in the backyard, he has to spend one more night there.
 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::
At least he is safe with God if he is in that backyard.

That is sad ::MonkeyWaa:: BUT, IF he is in that backyard, he's been with God for awhile and is at peace and will never be scared, hungry or sad ever again. ::MonkeyAngel::

I hate to even think of him lying there another night in that filthy place.  It is almost as bad as the landfill.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I agree with that, but HE is not there and he is in heaven if indeed that is his body (and I think it probably is). I know that's the only solace I have when I had to help my daughter hand Eli over to the staff at the hospital, but if I didn't have that to give me some sense of peace and comfort I'd be crazier than I already am.

You are one of the strongest people I know.  I think of you and your daughter and son often and hope you are healing.  If sheer determination alone could have kept Eli alive, he would still be here.  Sadly, little guys wear out.  I am so, so sorry, IM.  I am forever changed by your family.





Thanks PA~I'm not really, I just don't have the time to fall apart........we are doing as well as expected and I still remember your birthday wish and you don't know what that meant to me or my daughter. I am honored by your signature line. I just wanted everyone to know that is this IS Robert's body that those that love and care for him can find the peace and comfort by knowing he is in heaven  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:48:49 AM
There are 6 more court cases for 1961 Mark that range for no insurance, no headlights, too fast, no fenders on car, no mufflers on car, etc.  That I am not sure are worth posting as they are all vehicle related.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:56:01 AM
I am off to bed.  Good night and God Bless.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 01, 2009, 01:56:03 AM


It is almost as though by failing to punish those who thumb their nose at the law, especially anyone who would hurt a defenseless child, sets up something happening at a later date.  At first an infraction may seem minor (not talking about hurting a child here) but you can almost predict an the outcome when in addition to their infractions, child abuse is added to the mix.  You can put it in a book entitled recipe for disaster.

IMO, one strike and you are out where a child is concerned.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 01, 2009, 01:56:54 AM
I am off to bed.  Good night and God Bless.

Nite, No Rosie, and thank you for all the research.

 ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on August 01, 2009, 01:59:44 AM
Will do thanks for the reply. I will email you. We are leaving in the
AM. Thanks!!

YW~That's funny, we could actually be there at the same time....I did find this for you though:

http://www.watervilleusa.com/flash.html

It list who is able to get discounted tickets due to age, size etc., but I'll check to see if any of the hotels/condos have discount tickets for you.
Thanks a bunch!!!! I will have to see if my 6 year old may get a discount. Fortunately, I am not old enough for the Senior Citizen discount yet .....!! ::MonkeyWink::

You have nanners, but from my other email addy so if you don't recognize it...it's me ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 01, 2009, 02:01:07 AM
If he is in the backyard, he has to spend one more night there.
 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::
At least he is safe with God if he is in that backyard.

That is sad ::MonkeyWaa:: BUT, IF he is in that backyard, he's been with God for awhile and is at peace and will never be scared, hungry or sad ever again. ::MonkeyAngel::

I hate to even think of him lying there another night in that filthy place.  It is almost as bad as the landfill.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I agree with that, but HE is not there and he is in heaven if indeed that is his body (and I think it probably is). I know that's the only solace I have when I had to help my daughter hand Eli over to the staff at the hospital, but if I didn't have that to give me some sense of peace and comfort I'd be crazier than I already am.

You are one of the strongest people I know.  I think of you and your daughter and son often and hope you are healing.  If sheer determination alone could have kept Eli alive, he would still be here.  Sadly, little guys wear out.  I am so, so sorry, IM.  I am forever changed by your family.





Thanks PA~I'm not really, I just don't have the time to fall apart........we are doing as well as expected and I still remember your birthday wish and you don't know what that meant to me or my daughter. I am honored by your signature line. I just wanted everyone to know that is this IS Robert's body that those that love and care for him can find the peace and comfort by knowing he is in heaven  ::MonkeyAngel::

Yes, I know.  It is the disregard for his life in the first place that is so inhumane.  There is always the Jessica Lunsford case that always haunts me until they find a live child or his/her little body. 

Hoping that he is safe.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on August 01, 2009, 02:02:02 AM


It is almost as though by failing to punish those who thumb their nose at the law, especially anyone who would hurt a defenseless child, sets up something happening at a later date.  At first an infraction may seem minor (not talking about hurting a child here) but you can almost predict an the outcome when in addition to their infractions, child abuse is added to the mix.  You can put it in a book entitled recipe for disaster.

IMO, one strike and you are out where a child is concerned.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

 

Me too Bearly~and just ONE strike ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cartfly on August 01, 2009, 02:03:34 AM


It is almost as though by failing to punish those who thumb their nose at the law, especially anyone who would hurt a defenseless child, sets up something happening at a later date.  At first an infraction may seem minor (not talking about hurting a child here) but you can almost predict an the outcome when in addition to their infractions, child abuse is added to the mix.  You can put it in a book entitled recipe for disaster.

IMO, one strike and you are out where a child is concerned.

My thoughts exactly!!! The laws regarding any child abuse need to change!

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on August 01, 2009, 02:06:13 AM
If he is in the backyard, he has to spend one more night there.
 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::
At least he is safe with God if he is in that backyard.

That is sad ::MonkeyWaa:: BUT, IF he is in that backyard, he's been with God for awhile and is at peace and will never be scared, hungry or sad ever again. ::MonkeyAngel::

I hate to even think of him lying there another night in that filthy place.  It is almost as bad as the landfill.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I agree with that, but HE is not there and he is in heaven if indeed that is his body (and I think it probably is). I know that's the only solace I have when I had to help my daughter hand Eli over to the staff at the hospital, but if I didn't have that to give me some sense of peace and comfort I'd be crazier than I already am.

You are one of the strongest people I know.  I think of you and your daughter and son often and hope you are healing.  If sheer determination alone could have kept Eli alive, he would still be here.  Sadly, little guys wear out.  I am so, so sorry, IM.  I am forever changed by your family.





Thanks PA~I'm not really, I just don't have the time to fall apart........we are doing as well as expected and I still remember your birthday wish and you don't know what that meant to me or my daughter. I am honored by your signature line. I just wanted everyone to know that is this IS Robert's body that those that love and care for him can find the peace and comfort by knowing he is in heaven  ::MonkeyAngel::

Yes, I know.  It is the disregard for his life in the first place that is so inhumane.  There is always the Jessica Lunsford case that always haunts me until they find a live child or his/her little body. 

Hoping that he is safe.



That case,  and the Christopher Barrios case(where the man was in court the freaking day for a violation for molesting kids and the judge let him off), then he goes and gets this precious child and he and his dad molest him while the the mother "@aster#ates, then they dump his body in a trash bag on the side of the road......that judge has Christopher's blood on his hands AND is now the judge on the murder trial ::MonkeyConfused:: WTH?????

Absolutley insane!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on August 01, 2009, 02:24:55 AM
Night all and God Bless this child ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 01, 2009, 02:44:04 AM
If he is in the backyard, he has to spend one more night there.
 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::
At least he is safe with God if he is in that backyard.

That is sad ::MonkeyWaa:: BUT, IF he is in that backyard, he's been with God for awhile and is at peace and will never be scared, hungry or sad ever again. ::MonkeyAngel::

I hate to even think of him lying there another night in that filthy place.  It is almost as bad as the landfill.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I agree with that, but HE is not there and he is in heaven if indeed that is his body (and I think it probably is). I know that's the only solace I have when I had to help my daughter hand Eli over to the staff at the hospital, but if I didn't have that to give me some sense of peace and comfort I'd be crazier than I already am.

You are one of the strongest people I know.  I think of you and your daughter and son often and hope you are healing.  If sheer determination alone could have kept Eli alive, he would still be here.  Sadly, little guys wear out.  I am so, so sorry, IM.  I am forever changed by your family.





Thanks PA~I'm not really, I just don't have the time to fall apart........we are doing as well as expected and I still remember your birthday wish and you don't know what that meant to me or my daughter. I am honored by your signature line. I just wanted everyone to know that is this IS Robert's body that those that love and care for him can find the peace and comfort by knowing he is in heaven  ::MonkeyAngel::

Yes, I know.  It is the disregard for his life in the first place that is so inhumane.  There is always the Jessica Lunsford case that always haunts me until they find a live child or his/her little body. 

Hoping that he is safe.



That case,  and the Christopher Barrios case(where the man was in court the freaking day for a violation for molesting kids and the judge let him off), then he goes and gets this precious child and he and his dad molest him while the the mother "@aster#ates, then they dump his body in a trash bag on the side of the road......that judge has Christopher's blood on his hands AND is now the judge on the murder trial ::MonkeyConfused:: WTH?????

Absolutley insane!

 ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyShocked::



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 01, 2009, 02:44:53 AM
Night all and God Bless this child ::MonkeyAngel::

Nite IM!

xo



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: burkieandemme on August 01, 2009, 04:06:04 AM
Thank you to everyone for all of the information posted here tonight.

Robert deserved so much more than what occurred.  He deserved to be loved and valued by his mother.  He deserved to be able to have a mom who would get themselves sober and spend precious time with him; not hang out with criminals doing who knows what. He deserved to be able to live a life with out violence.  He deserved to grow up.  Instead he grew up in an environment where is half-brother's skull was fractured and his half-sister was removed from their egg donor's home. She did not protect them.  She did not protect Robert. 

Robert you deserved so much more than you where given in life.  You deserved to go to Disneyland; pretend to be a character from "Transformers", "G.I. Joe" and "Star Wars"; ride a bike; play with Pokemon cards; build Lego sets; but most of all grow up.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 05:25:13 AM
Search for Robert Manwill turns grim
Man 'sick' as police search his yard; father of mother's boyfriend says son accused him
BY BRIAN MURPHY - bmurphy@idahostatesman.com
Copyright: © 2009 Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/01/09


The man whose Boise home and yard were being searched Friday night for evidence related to Robert Manwill's disappearance says he knows the 8-year-old's family but has no idea what may have happened to him.

Evan Wallis told the Idaho Statesman that he doesn't know what police are looking for at his rental home in the 6600 block of Southdale Avenue, near Five Mile Road in Southwest Boise.

"If it's going to help anything, do it," Wallis said. He said he knows Robert's mother and her boyfriend but is much closer to the boyfriend's brother, David Ehrlick. "I'm innocent. I'm an innocent bystander."

Wallis' comments came after 24 hours of drama that began with a Thursday night police search of the apartment near Vista Avenue where Manwill's mother, Melissa Jenkins, lives with her boyfriend, Daniel Ehrlick Jr.

On Friday, police said they had discovered "suspicious circumstances," and as night fell authorities were searching Wallis' backyard.

The Statesman interviewed Wallis at David Ehrlick's home in the 2800 block of Bannock Street. Also interviewed there was Daniel Ehrlick Sr., the father of David Ehrlick and Daniel Ehrlick Jr.

Daniel Ehrlick Sr. said that his son Daniel had accused him of taking Robert and that police had questioned him repeatedly.

THE BACKYARD SEARCH, A STOLEN SUBURBAN

Wallis said the police were digging up his backyard after bloodhounds picked up a scent at his house.

He said his black-and-gray Chevy Suburban was stolen July 22 after someone came into his house and took the keys. He found it Monday after returning from a weekend away and called the Ada County Sheriff's Department.

When officials investigated, he told them of his connection to the Ehrlick family.

"I mentioned that I know these guys. I've met the little boy," Wallis said.

Wallis said he last saw Robert at David Ehrlick's home a few months ago.

He said he and his wife have been re-doing their backyard, planting grass and adding a sandbox. He said he did not notice any disturbances in the backyard, which he said was large and had "a lot of junk" in it.

"It makes me sick to know this is going down at my house right now," he said. "I didn't do nothing back there. I'm not going to say for the record nothing's back there because I don't know. Maybe something did happen along the lines when I was out of town."

EHRLICH'S FATHER: MY SON ACCUSED ME

A man Robert called "Grandpa" said Friday that he has been questioned repeatedly by investigators after his older son accused him of taking Robert and told investigators the same thing.

Daniel Ehrlick Sr., a former Marine who served in Vietnam, said he thought he saw Robert on the day he was reported missing when he stopped by Ehrlick Jr.'s apartment to drop off money to help pay bills.

"(Ehrlick Jr.) told me that Robert was down in the back. When I came to the door, I don't know if it was then that I spotted it, or I spotted it before, but I spotted another boy that looked just like Robert with a white T-shirt on," Ehrlick Sr. said.

Investigators have said Robert was wearing a blue Superman T-shirt at the time of his disappearance.

"I haven't talked to him since he accused me Sunday. I haven't talked to him," Ehrlick Sr. said. "I don't know if (Jenkins and Ehrlick Jr. have) been real truthful with me."

David Ehrlick, Ehrlick Sr.'s youngest son, said he was with his father the entire day on Friday.

Ehrlick Sr. said he used to pick up Robert at his father's house in New Plymouth and bring him to Boise. He teared up as he discussed the missing child while smoking a cigarette in his front yard.

Ehrlick Sr. and his youngest son, David, told a story of a boy that was constantly in trouble with his mother for the pettiest of infractions. David Ehrlick said that Robert was not allowed to go outside and play during a recent birthday party.

"It was scary around her with her children. Robert would get in trouble for everything. It didn't matter if it was asking a question, he'd get grounded. He'd have to sit on his hands," said David Ehrlick. "He's just a little boy."

Said Ehrlick Sr.: "That's why I was afraid to even say, 'Robert, let's go fishing.'"

They said that they told investigators their concern when Jenkins was investigated for injuring her infant in October 2008.

Ehrlick Sr. praised the volunteers and investigators.

"People have been awesome. I just wish there was something I could do for all the people involved," he said. "In my opinion, the Boise police are doing a good job."

POLICE AT THE APARTMENT, THE LANDFILL, THE HOUSE

The police and FBI have been investigating some of the people closest to Robert - including the boy's mother, her boyfriend and his father.

After spending hours searching the apartment shared by Jenkins and Ehrlick Jr. - and removing at least two cars from the Oak Park Village apartment complex near Vista Avenue - police announced that they had found new evidence that showed Robert could have been "the victim of a tragic event." They asked the more than 2,300 volunteers scouring Boise to start looking for signs of a crime.

Meanwhile, officers converged on Wallis' home and cordoned off an area of the Hidden Hollow Landfill that had been left alone since trash was dumped there the morning after Robert was reported missing.

Landfill operators said they could use a backhoe to spread Saturday's refuse thin enough to be searched, if asked.

Boise police had said all week that they had no reason to suspect foul play and had no suspects. But friends and family members say officers had been examining several people close to Robert.

Sean Buffington, who lives upstairs and across the hall from the apartment shared by Jenkins and Ehrlick Jr., said Ehrlick Jr. told him last Sunday that "basically the two of them were the No. 1 suspects" already.

"He said they had been through the wringer as far as interrogations," Buffington said.

Jenkins is on parole after pleading guilty to a misdemeanor charge of injury to a child in relation to an October 2008 incident that left her infant with a fractured skull.

Ehrlick Jr. has been convicted of burglary, battery and possession of drug paraphernalia, and is banned by the courts from being alone with Robert's half-sister.

The couple, who had appeared but not spoken at many of the police updates, did not attend Friday's news conference.

A Saint Alphonsus Regional Medical Center spokesperson said Friday that Ehrlick Jr. had been admitted and released from the hospital but did not say exactly when or for what he was treated.

Police plan a news conference at noon Saturday to update the public.

Brian Murphy: 377-6444. Reporters Rocky Barker, Cynthia Sewell, Anna Webb and Bethann Stewart contributed.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/852598.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 05:50:40 AM

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4  Cases Found.
State of Idaho vs. Evan C Wallis
No hearings scheduled
Case:     CR-MD-2006-0017409
Old Case: M0617409     Magistrate     Judge:     Michael Reardon     Amount due:     $775.00    Closed pending clerk action
Charges:    Violation Date    Charge    Citation    Disposition
     12/09/2006    Original: I18-8001 Driving Without Privileges
Amended: I VALID OPERATOR OR CHAUFFER LIC. REQUIRED
Arresting Officer:  Winter, Russ, GC    168215    Finding: Change Plea to Guilty Before Trial
Disposition date: 04/13/2007
Fines/fees: $882.50
     12/09/2006    I49-1232 {M} Insurance-fail To Provide Proof Of Insurance
Arresting Officer:  Winter, Russ, GC    168215    Finding: Change Plea to Guilty Before Trial
Disposition date: 04/13/2007
Fines/fees: $172.50
     12/09/2006    I49-654(2){E} Exceeding the Posted Speed Limit (16+ mph)
Arresting Officer:  Winter, Russ, GC    168216    Finding: Order for Dismissal
Disposition date: 04/13/2007
Fines/fees: $0.00
     12/09/2006    I18-1801 Contempt of Court-Criminal
Arresting Officer:  Garden City Officer- Generic,, GC    
Register of actions:    Date    
     12/20/2006    Charge number 1: Case Opened
     12/20/2006    Charge number 2: Case Opened
     12/20/2006    Arraignment - 01/02/2007
     12/20/2006    Charge number 3: Case Opened
     12/20/2006    First Appearance - 01/02/2007
     01/02/2007    Order Appointing Public Defender
     01/02/2007    Arraignment
     01/02/2007    Charge number 1: Not Guilty Plea
     01/02/2007    First Appearance
     01/02/2007    Charge number 2: Not Guilty Plea
     01/02/2007    Charge number 3: Not Guilty Plea
     01/02/2007    Event Scheduled - Pre-Trial Conference - 04/13/2007
     01/11/2007    Defendant Request For Discovery
     01/26/2007    State/City Response to Disc. Req. - /& Request
     02/12/2007    State/City Response to Disc. Req. - /Supplemental
     04/13/2007    Charge number 1: Charge Amended From - S 18-8001 M DWP
     04/13/2007    Charge number 1: To - S 49-301 M LIC REQRD
     04/13/2007    Pre-Trial Conference
     04/13/2007    Charge number 1: Change Plea to Guilty Before Trial
     04/13/2007    Charge number 1: Final Judgment, Order or Decree
     04/13/2007    Charge number 1: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $872.50
     04/13/2007    Charge number 2: Change Plea to Guilty Before Trial
     04/13/2007    Charge number 2: Final Judgment, Order or Decree
     04/13/2007    Charge number 2: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $172.50
     04/13/2007    Charge number 3: Order for Dismissal
     04/13/2007    Charge number 2: Fine Agreement Set - 04/13/2007
     04/20/2007    Charge number 2: Disposition reported to D.O.T. - G 0168215 E
     05/09/2007    Charge number 1: Partial Payment - A1998188 $42.50
     05/09/2007    Charge number 2: Partial Payment - A1998189 $17.50
     05/14/2007    Charge number 1: Partial Payment - A1999263 $20.00
     05/14/2007    Charge number 2: Partial Payment - A1999264 $35.00
     07/10/2007    Charge number 1: Partial Payment - A2021044 $45.00
     07/10/2007    Charge number 2: Partial Payment - A2021045 $10.00
     09/13/2007    Charge number 1: Partial Payment - A2045392 $55.00
     10/30/2007    Charge number 1: Partial Payment - A2063415 $55.00
     07/30/2009    Motion for Contempt of Court for F&C
     07/30/2009    Affidavit in Support of Warrant
     07/31/2009    STATUS CHANGED: Closed pending clerk action
 
State of Idaho vs. Evan C Wallis
No hearings scheduled
Case:     CR-MD-2000-0000731
Old Case: M0000731     Magistrate     Judge:     Thomas R. Morden     Amount due:     $0.00    Closed
Charges:    Violation Date    Charge    Citation    Disposition
     01/14/2000    I23-949 Alcoholic Bev-possess/consume/purchase By Minor
Arresting Officer:  Roper, Randy, BO    820701    Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 04/26/2000
Fines/fees: $72.50
Register of actions:    Date    
     01/21/2000    Charge number 1: Case Opened
     01/21/2000    Arraignment - 02/03/2000
     01/27/2000    Event Scheduled - Sentencing Hearing - 04/26/2000
     01/27/2000    Arraignment
     04/26/2000    Sentence Hearing
     04/26/2000    Charge number 1: Guilty Plea
     04/26/2000    Charge number 1: Final Judgment, Order or Decree
     04/26/2000    Charge number 1: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $68.50
     04/26/2000    D/L Suspension- Judgment
     04/26/2000    Order - 8hrs Youth Alc Class
     04/26/2000    Charge number 1: Fine Agreement Set - 04/26/2000
     05/31/2000    Charge number 1: Partial Payment - A1242262 $37.00
     06/07/2000    Compliance Ltr Rcvd
     08/10/2000    Charge number 1: Final Payment - A1260107 $35.50
 
State of Idaho vs. Evan C Wallis
No hearings scheduled
Case:     CR-MD-1999-0007184
Old Case: M9907184     Magistrate     Judge:     Thomas Watkins     Amount due:     $0.00    Closed
Charges:    Violation Date    Charge    Citation    Disposition
     06/16/1999    I39-5703(2) {M} Tobacco-minor Use False Identification/statements
Arresting Officer:  zzBCPD,, BO    816905    Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 10/07/1999
Fines/fees: $0.00
     03/15/2000    I18-1801 Contempt Of Court - Criminal
Arresting Officer:  zzBCPD,, BO       Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 03/01/2001
Fines/fees: $140.50
Register of actions:    Date    
     06/18/1999    Charge number 1: Case Opened
     06/18/1999    Arraignment - 07/07/1999
     07/06/1999    Arraignment
     07/06/1999    Event Scheduled - Sentencing Hearing - 10/29/1999
     08/11/1999    Event Scheduled - Sentencing Hearing - 10/07/1999
     10/07/1999    Sentence Hearing
     10/07/1999    Charge number 1: Guilty Plea
     10/07/1999    Charge number 1: Final Judgment, Order or Decree
     10/07/1999    Charge number 1: Sentenced to Referral - EA 30HRS
     03/15/2000    Contempt Warrant Created - M9907184.01-01
     03/15/2000    Amended Complaint
     03/16/2000    Motion - For Contempt For 30 hrs of CSA
     03/21/2000    Contempt Warrant Iss'd - M9907184.01-01 - 03/21/2000
     08/02/2000    Charge number 1: Reviewed & Retained - Class Update
     09/28/2000    Charge number 2: Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - .01
     09/28/2000    Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - 09/29/2000
     09/28/2000    Bond Out Clerk Appearance - 10/12/2000 Thru - 10/19/2000
     09/29/2000    Warrant Return Filed
     10/12/2000    Event Scheduled - Sentencing Hearing - 03/01/2001
     10/12/2000    Bond Out Clerk Appearance
     03/01/2001    Sentence Hearing
     03/01/2001    Charge number 2: Guilty Plea
     03/01/2001    Charge number 2: Final Judgment, Order or Decree
     03/01/2001    Charge number 2: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $138.50
     03/01/2001    Reorder 30hrs convert to a fine
     03/01/2001    Charge number 2: Fine Agreement Set - 03/01/2001
     05/01/2001    Charge number 2: Final Payment - A1334001 $140.50
 
State of Idaho vs. Evan C Wallis
No hearings scheduled
Case:     CR-MD-1999-0003919
Old Case: M9903919     Magistrate     Judge:     Thomas Watkins     Amount due:     $0.00    Closed
Charges:    Violation Date    Charge    Citation    Disposition
     03/26/1999    B6-1-7A TOBACCO VIOLATION
Arresting Officer:  zzBCPD,, BO    803951    Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 07/15/1999
Fines/fees: $0.00
Register of actions:    Date    
     03/30/1999    Charge number 1: Case Opened
     03/30/1999    Arraignment - 04/16/1999
     04/16/1999    Event Scheduled - Sentencing Hearing - 07/15/1999
     04/16/1999    Arraignment
     07/15/1999    Sentence Hearing
     07/15/1999    Charge number 1: Guilty Plea
     07/15/1999    Charge number 1: Final Judgment, Order or Decree
     07/15/1999    Charge number 1: Sentenced to Referral - EA 40HRS
     10/01/1999    40 HRS CSA Complete
 

 Ada
1  Cases Found.
State of Idaho vs. Evan Charles Wallis
No hearings scheduled
Case:     CR-IN-2003-0024082
Old Case: T0324082     Magistrate     Judge:     Magistrate Court Clerk     Amount due:     $0.00    Closed
Charges:    Violation Date    Charge    Citation    Disposition
     05/23/2003    I49-654(1) Basic Rule Violation - Too Fast For Conditions-
Arresting Officer:  zzResigned, Retired Arnold-Hagmann, BO    1006468    Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 06/13/2003
Fines/fees: $53.00
     05/23/2003    I49-673 Safety Restraint-Fail To Use
Arresting Officer:  zzResigned, Retired Arnold-Hagmann, BO    1006468    Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 06/13/2003
Fines/fees: $5.00
Register of actions:    Date    
     05/29/2003    Charge number 1: Case Opened
     05/29/2003    Charge number 2: Case Opened
     05/29/2003    First Appearance - 06/13/2003
     06/13/2003    Charge number 1: Guilty Plea
     06/13/2003    Charge number 1: Final Judgment, Order or Decree
     06/13/2003    Charge number 1: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $53.00
     06/13/2003    Charge number 1: Final Payment for traffic case - A1552012 $53.00
     06/13/2003    Charge number 2: Guilty Plea
     06/13/2003    Charge number 2: Final Judgment, Order or Decree
     06/13/2003    Charge number 2: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $5.00
     06/13/2003    Charge number 2: Final Payment for traffic case - A1552013 $5.00
     06/20/2003    Charge number 1: Disposition reported to D.O.T. - B 1006468 E

 Ada
1  Cases Found.
State of Idaho vs. Evan Charles Wallis
No hearings scheduled
Case:     CR-IN-2003-0007354
Old Case: T0307354     Magistrate     Judge:     Magistrate Court Clerk     Amount due:     $0.00    Closed
Charges:    Violation Date    Charge    Citation    Disposition
     02/08/2003    I49-654(2) Speed-exceed Maximum Speed Limit
Arresting Officer:  Unknown Officer,, AD    979024    Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 02/28/2003
Fines/fees: $108.00
     02/08/2003    I49-1232 {I} Insurance-fail To Provide Proof Of Insurance
Arresting Officer:  Unknown Officer,, AD    979024    Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 02/28/2003
Fines/fees: $107.50
Register of actions:    Date    
     02/14/2003    Charge number 1: Case Opened
     02/14/2003    Charge number 2: Case Opened
     02/14/2003    First Appearance - 02/28/2003
     02/28/2003    First Appearance
     02/28/2003    Charge number 1: Guilty Plea
     02/28/2003    Charge number 1: Final Judgment, Order or Decree
     02/28/2003    Charge number 1: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $108.00
     02/28/2003    Charge number 1: Final Payment for traffic case - A1520895 $108.00
     02/28/2003    Charge number 2: Guilty Plea
     02/28/2003    Charge number 2: Final Judgment, Order or Decree
     02/28/2003    Charge number 2: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $107.50
     02/28/2003    Charge number 2: Final Payment for traffic case - A1520896 $107.50
     03/07/2003    Charge number 1: Disposition reported to D.O.T. - S 0979024 E
     03/07/2003    Charge number 2: Disposition reported to D.O.T. - S 0979024 E

 Ada
1  Cases Found.
State of Idaho Dept. of Health and Welfare vs. Evan Charles Wallis, etal.
Case:    CV-SP-2006-04394    Magistrate     Filed:     03/09/2006    Subtype:     Support Proceedings     Judge:     Dave Epis     Status:     Closed  01/03/2007
     Defendants:    Wallis, Evan Charles  Whitman, Jennifer R
     Plaintiffs:    State of Idaho Dept. of Health and Welfare
Disposition:    Date    Judgment Type    Disposition Date    Disposition Type    Parties    In Favor Of
     01/03/2007    Order For Med. Supp.          Wallis, Evan Charles (Defendant), Whitman, Jennifer R (Defendant), State of Idaho Dept. of Health and Welfare (Plaintiff)    Unknown
     Comment:    Order for Medical Support and Medicaid Reimbursement
Register of actions:    Date    
     03/09/2006    New Case Filed - Support Proceedings
     03/09/2006    Complaint Filed for Child Support and Medicaid Reimbursement
     03/09/2006    Summons Filed
     07/12/2006    Affidavit Of Service June 28, 2006
     07/12/2006    Affidavit Of Service April 21, 2006
     12/28/2006    Application For Entry Of Default
     12/28/2006    Default Affidavit
     01/03/2007    Default Order
     01/03/2007    Order for Medical Support and Medicaid Reimbursement order date: 1/3/2007


Disposition date: 04/26/2000
Fines/fees: $72.50

Jennifer Whitman - the Mark Whitman on Intellus must be a brother or perhaps the child's name?


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4  Cases Found.
State of Idaho vs. Evan Charles Wallis
No hearings scheduled
Case:     CR-MD-2005-0010833
Old Case: M0510833     Magistrate     Judge:     James Cawthon     Amount due:     $0.00    Closed
Charges:    Violation Date    Charge    Citation    Disposition
     08/19/2005    I18-8001 Driving Without Privileges
Arresting Officer:  De Leon, Carlos Jr, AD    373343    Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 09/09/2005
Fines/fees: $0.00
Jail: 30 days
Register of actions:    Date    
     08/30/2005    Charge number 1: Case Opened
     08/30/2005    Arraignment - 09/09/2005
     09/09/2005    Video Arraignment - Arraignment - 09/09/2005
     09/09/2005    Video Arraignment
     09/09/2005    Charge number 1: Guilty Plea
     09/09/2005    Charge number 1: Final Judgment, Order or Decree
     09/09/2005    Charge number 1: Sentenced to Jail - 30d
     09/09/2005    D/L Suspension- Judgment
     09/16/2005    Charge number 1: Disposition reported to D.O.T. - A 0373343 E
 
State of Idaho vs. Evan Charles Wallis
No hearings scheduled
Case:     CR-FE-2004-0000978
Old Case: H0400978     District     Judge:     Ronald J. Wilper     Amount due:     $280.81    Closed
Charges:    Violation Date    Charge    Citation    Disposition
     07/13/2004    Original: IX37-2732-SP {F} CONTROLLED SUB POSS (SYNTHETIC)
Amended: I37-2732(C)(1) Controlled Substance-possession Of
Arresting Officer:  Savage, Derek Q, AD       Finding: Retained Jurisdiction
Disposition date: 10/12/2005
Fines/fees: $756.50
Det Penitentiary: 5 years
     07/13/2004    Original: IX37-2732-MP {M} MARIJUANA POSSESSION
Amended: I37-2732(C)(3) Controlled Substance-possession Of
Arresting Officer:  Savage, Derek Q, AD       Finding: Transferred
Disposition date: 10/12/2005
Fines/fees: $0.00
     07/13/2004    I37-2734(A) {M} Drug Paraphernalia Possession of
Arresting Officer:  Savage, Derek Q, AD       Finding: Transferred
Disposition date: 10/12/2005
Fines/fees: $0.00
Register of actions:    Date    
     07/13/2004    Case Created - Bind Over M0408163
     07/13/2004    Charge number 1: Committment and Papers
     07/13/2004    Charge number 1: Defendant Transferred In - M0408163 D.01
     07/13/2004    Charge number 1: Count Bound From - M0408163 D.01 C.001
     07/13/2004    Charge number 1: Bond Transferred From - M0408163 D.01 C.001
     07/13/2004    Charge number 2: Count Bound From - M0408163 D.01 C.002
     07/13/2004    Charge number 2: Bond Transferred From - M0408163 D.01 C.002
     07/13/2004    Charge number 3: Count Bound From - M0408163 D.01 C.003
     07/13/2004    Charge number 3: Bond Transferred From - M0408163 D.01 C.003
     07/13/2004    Event Scheduled - 1500 - 08/04/2004
     07/13/2004    Event Scheduled - Preliminary Hearing - 08/04/2004
     07/16/2004    Defendant Request For Discovery
     07/30/2004    Information and Papers Filed
     08/04/2004    Drug Court Arraignment
     08/04/2004    Continued For Plea
     08/11/2004    Drug Court Arraignment - (Con't)
     08/11/2004    Continued For Plea
     08/18/2004    Drug Court Arraignment - (Con't)
     08/18/2004    Charge number 1: Guilty Plea
     08/18/2004    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 09/08/2004
     08/20/2004    Charge number 1: Exoneration of Bond - LG10-127820 - 08/20/2004
     08/20/2004    Plea Form
     08/20/2004    Consent to Contact
     08/20/2004    Phase I Cont
     09/08/2004    Hearing
     09/08/2004    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 09/29/2004
     09/09/2004    Order - for SILD
     09/13/2004    Notice - to Appear
     09/13/2004    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 09/15/2004
     09/15/2004    Hearing
     09/15/2004    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 09/22/2004
     09/15/2004    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 09/22/2004
     09/16/2004    Order - for SILD
     09/22/2004    Hearing
     09/22/2004    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 09/29/2004
     09/29/2004    Hearing
     09/29/2004    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 10/06/2004
     10/06/2004    Hearing
     10/06/2004    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 10/27/2004
     10/27/2004    Hearing
     10/27/2004    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 11/10/2004
     10/28/2004    Order - for SILD
     11/10/2004    Hearing
     11/10/2004    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 12/01/2004
     11/12/2004    Notice - to Appear in Drug Ct
     11/12/2004    Drug Court Arraignment - Hearing - 11/17/2004
     11/17/2004    Arraignment
     11/17/2004    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 12/01/2004
     12/01/2004    Hearing
     12/01/2004    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 12/15/2004
     12/15/2004    Hearing
     12/15/2004    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 01/12/2005
     12/16/2004    Phase II Cont
     01/03/2005    Notice - to Appear
     01/03/2005    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 01/05/2005
     01/05/2005    Hearing
     01/05/2005    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 01/12/2005
     01/12/2005    Hearing
     01/12/2005    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 02/09/2005
     01/19/2005    Notice - to Appear
     01/19/2005    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 01/26/2005
     01/26/2005    Hearing
     01/26/2005    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 02/23/2005
     01/27/2005    Order - for SILD
     02/23/2005    Hearing
     02/23/2005    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 03/23/2005
     03/23/2005    Hearing
     03/23/2005    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 04/20/2005
     04/01/2005    Notice - to Appear
     04/01/2005    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 04/06/2005
     04/06/2005    Hearing
     04/12/2005    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 04/13/2005
     04/14/2005    Hearing
     04/14/2005    Order - for ABC/Funds
     06/23/2005    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 06/29/2005
     06/29/2005    Hearing
     06/29/2005    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 07/20/2005
     07/20/2005    Hearing
     07/20/2005    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 08/17/2005
     07/20/2005    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 08/17/2005
     08/17/2005    Hearing
     08/17/2005    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 08/24/2005
     08/24/2005    Hearing
     08/24/2005    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 09/21/2005
     08/24/2005    Order - for SILD
     08/26/2005    Notice - to appear
     08/26/2005    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 08/31/2005
     08/31/2005    Hearing
     08/31/2005    Event Scheduled - Hearing - 09/07/2005
     09/07/2005    Hearing
     09/07/2005    Event Scheduled - Sentencing Hearing - 10/12/2005
     10/12/2005    Sentence Hearing
     10/12/2005    Charge number 1: Retained Jurisdiction - 180 days
     10/12/2005    Charge number 1: Sentenced to Restitute - $320.00
     10/12/2005    Charge number 1: Sentenced to ISCI - 5y
     10/12/2005    Charge number 2: Dismissed Before Trial or Hearing
     10/12/2005    Charge number 3: Dismissed Before Trial or Hearing
     10/13/2005    Judgment of Convctn
     01/10/2006    Charge number 1: Fine Agreement Set - 01/10/2006
     02/14/2006    Order - to Transport
     02/14/2006    Rider Hearing - 03/07/2006
     03/07/2006    Rider Hearing
     03/07/2006    Charge number 1: Judgment Reconsidered
     03/07/2006    Charge number 1: Judgment Reconsidered - S 37-2732(c) POSS
     03/07/2006    Charge number 1: Sentence Modified- - Fines
     03/07/2006    Charge number 1: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $148.50
     03/07/2006    Charge number 1: Sentence Modified- - P D Fees
     03/07/2006    Charge number 1: Sentenced to Reimburse P D - $250.00
     03/07/2006    Charge number 1: Sentence Modified- - Restitution
     03/07/2006    Charge number 1: Sentenced to Restitute - $320.00
     03/07/2006    Charge number 1: Sentence Modified- - Incarceration
     03/07/2006    Charge number 1: Sentenced to ISCI - 5y 5y sp
     03/08/2006    Order - Suspending Sentence & Order of Probation
     04/03/2006    Charge number 1: Fine Agreement Set - 04/03/2006
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State of Idaho vs. Evan Charles Wallis
No hearings scheduled
Case:     CR-MD-2004-0008163
Old Case: M0408163     Magistrate     Judge:     Arraignment Judge     Amount due:     $0.00    Closed
Charges:    Violation Date    Charge    Citation    Disposition
     07/13/2004    Original: IX37-2732-SP {F} CONTROLLED SUB POSS (SYNTHETIC)
Amended: I37-2732(C)(1) Controlled Substance-possession Of
Arresting Officer:  Unknown Officer,, AD       Finding: P/H Waived, Defendant Bound Over
Disposition date: 07/13/2004
Fines/fees: $0.00
     07/13/2004    Original: IX37-2732-MP {M} MARIJUANA POSSESSION
Amended: I37-2732(C)(3) Controlled Substance-possession Of
Arresting Officer:  Savage, Derek Q, AD    358899    Finding: P/H Waived, Defendant Bound Over
Disposition date: 07/13/2004
Fines/fees: $0.00
     07/13/2004    I37-2734(A) {M} Drug Paraphernalia Possession of
Arresting Officer:  Savage, Derek Q, AD    358899    Finding: P/H Waived, Defendant Bound Over
Disposition date: 07/13/2004
Fines/fees: $0.00
Register of actions:    Date    
     07/13/2004    Case Created
     07/13/2004    Case Opened
     07/13/2004    Video Arraignment - 07/13/2004
     07/13/2004    Charge number 1: Charge Booked by ACSO
     07/13/2004    Charge number 1: Charge Amended by Prosecutor
     07/13/2004    Charge number 1: Finger Print Card# Added - 0045770
     07/13/2004    Charge number 2: Charge Booked by ACSO - -Citation A 358899
     07/13/2004    Charge number 2: Charge Amended by Prosecutor
     07/13/2004    Charge number 2: Bond Set at - 300
     07/13/2004    Charge number 3: Charge Booked by ACSO - -Citation A 358899
     07/13/2004    Charge number 3: Bond Set at - 300
     07/13/2004    Video Arraignment - Video Arraignment - 07/13/2004
     07/13/2004    Charge number 1: Charge Filed Cause Found
     07/13/2004    Charge number 2: Charge Filed Cause Found
     07/13/2004    Charge number 3: Charge Filed Cause Found
     07/13/2004    Video Arraignment
     07/13/2004    Order Appointing Public Defender
     07/13/2004    Charge number 1: Rel from Custody Own Recognizance
     07/13/2004    Charge number 1: P/H Waived, Defendant Bound Over - H0400978 D.01
     07/13/2004    Charge number 1: Count Bound To - H0400978 D.01 C.001
     07/13/2004    Charge number 1: Bond Transferred To - H0400978 D.01 C.001
     07/13/2004    Charge number 2: Count Bound To - H0400978 D.01 C.002
     07/13/2004    Charge number 2: Bond Transferred To - H0400978 D.01 C.002
     07/13/2004    Charge number 3: Count Bound To - H0400978 D.01 C.003
     07/13/2004    Charge number 3: Bond Transferred To - H0400978 D.01 C.003
     07/15/2004    Finger Print Card# Sent to BCI - 0100045770
 
State of Idaho vs. Evan Charles Wallis
No hearings scheduled
Case:     CR-MD-2004-0001811
Old Case: M0401811     Magistrate     Judge:     Thomas R. Morden     Amount due:     $185.00    Closed
Charges:    Violation Date    Charge    Citation    Disposition
     02/02/2004    I18-8001 Driving Without Privileges
Arresting Officer:  zzBCPD,, BO    1031847    Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 07/13/2004
Fines/fees: $290.50
Jail: 2 days
Credited time (Yes): 2 days
     02/02/2004    I49-1232 {M} Insurance-fail To Provide Proof Of Insurance
Arresting Officer:  zzBCPD,, BO    1031847    Finding: Guilty
Disposition date: 07/13/2004
Fines/fees: $213.50
Register of actions:    Date    
     02/12/2004    Charge number 1: Case Opened
     02/12/2004    Charge number 2: Case Opened
     02/12/2004    Arraignment - 02/23/2004
     02/23/2004    Event Scheduled - Sentencing Hearing - 06/03/2004
     02/23/2004    Arraignment
     06/03/2004    Bench Warrant Created - M0401811.01-01
     06/04/2004    Bench Warrant Issued - M0401811.01-01 - 06/04/2004
     07/12/2004    Charge number 2: Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - .01
     07/12/2004    Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - 07/13/2004
     07/13/2004    Warrant Return Filed
     07/13/2004    Video Arraignment - Video Arraignment - 07/13/2004
     07/13/2004    Video Arraignment
     07/13/2004    Order Appointing Public Defender
     07/13/2004    Charge number 1: Guilty Plea
     07/13/2004    Charge number 1: Final Judgment, Order or Decree
     07/13/2004    Charge number 1: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $228.50
     07/13/2004    Charge number 1: Sentenced to Reimburse P D - $50.00
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     07/13/2004    Charge number 2: Final Judgment, Order or Decree
     07/13/2004    Charge number 2: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $213.50
     07/13/2004    D/L Suspension- Judgment
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Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 05:53:35 AM
Couple of minor tobacco charges too. They must be tough on the smoking in Idaho.

He sounds like a winner huh? Him and "step-daddy" boyfriend are perfect for each other.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 06:04:03 AM
Someone 'came into his house and took the keys'. That's an odd choice of words.

I would have said someone must have broke into my house and stole the keys.

Innocent bystanders usually are standing by watching but they don't participate in any crime that is taking place.

Odd choice of words too.

Convenient that he was gone for the weekend and when he returned he just happen to "find" the "stolen" SUV.

My hinky meter is going off big-time.

He is covering for someone.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: MuffyBee on August 01, 2009, 08:10:11 AM
http://www.idahostatesman.com/102/story/852598.html
Search for Robert Manwill turns grim
Man 'sick' as police search his yard; father of mother's boyfriend says son accused him

BY BRIAN MURPHY - bmurphy@idahostatesman.com
Copyright: © 2009 Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/01/09
The man whose Boise home and yard were being searched Friday night for evidence related to Robert Manwill's disappearance says he knows the 8-year-old's family but has no idea what may have happened to him.

Evan Wallis told the Idaho Statesman that he doesn't know what police are looking for at his rental home in the 6600 block of Southdale Avenue, near Five Mile Road in Southwest Boise.

"If it's going to help anything, do it," Wallis said. He said he knows Robert's mother and her boyfriend but is much closer to the boyfriend's brother, David Ehrlick. "I'm innocent. I'm an innocent bystander."

Wallis' comments came after 24 hours of drama that began with a Thursday night police search of the apartment near Vista Avenue where Manwill's mother, Melissa Jenkins, lives with her boyfriend, Daniel Ehrlick Jr.

On Friday, police said they had discovered "suspicious circumstances," and as night fell authorities were searching Wallis' backyard.

The Statesman interviewed Wallis at David Ehrlick's home in the 2800 block of Bannock Street. Also interviewed there was Daniel Ehrlick Sr., the father of David Ehrlick and Daniel Ehrlick Jr.

Daniel Ehrlick Sr. said that his son Daniel had accused him of taking Robert and that police had questioned him repeatedly.

THE BACKYARD SEARCH, A STOLEN SUBURBAN

Wallis said the police were digging up his backyard after bloodhounds picked up a scent at his house.

He said his black-and-gray Chevy Suburban was stolen July 22 after someone came into his house and took the keys. He found it Monday after returning from a weekend away and called the Ada County Sheriff's Department.

When officials investigated, he told them of his connection to the Ehrlick family.

"I mentioned that I know these guys. I've met the little boy," Wallis said.

Wallis said he last saw Robert at David Ehrlick's home a few months ago.

He said he and his wife have been re-doing their backyard, planting grass and adding a sandbox. He said he did not notice any disturbances in the backyard, which he said was large and had "a lot of junk" in it.

"It makes me sick to know this is going down at my house right now," he said. "I didn't do nothing back there. I'm not going to say for the record nothing's back there because I don't know. Maybe something did happen along the lines when I was out of town."

EHRLICH'S FATHER: MY SON ACCUSED ME

A man Robert called "Grandpa" said Friday that he has been questioned repeatedly by investigators after his older son accused him of taking Robert and told investigators the same thing.

Daniel Ehrlick Sr., a former Marine who served in Vietnam, said he thought he saw Robert on the day he was reported missing when he stopped by Ehrlick Jr.'s apartment to drop off money to help pay bills.

"(Ehrlick Jr.) told me that Robert was down in the back. When I came to the door, I don't know if it was then that I spotted it, or I spotted it before, but I spotted another boy that looked just like Robert with a white T-shirt on," Ehrlick Sr. said.

Investigators have said Robert was wearing a blue Superman T-shirt at the time of his disappearance.

"I haven't talked to him since he accused me Sunday. I haven't talked to him," Ehrlick Sr. said. "I don't know if (Jenkins and Ehrlick Jr. have) been real truthful with me."

David Ehrlick, Ehrlick Sr.'s youngest son, said he was with his father the entire day on Friday.

Ehrlick Sr. said he used to pick up Robert at his father's house in New Plymouth and bring him to Boise. He teared up as he discussed the missing child while smoking a cigarette in his front yard.

Ehrlick Sr. and his youngest son, David, told a story of a boy that was constantly in trouble with his mother for the pettiest of infractions. David Ehrlick said that Robert was not allowed to go outside and play during a recent birthday party.

"It was scary around her with her children. Robert would get in trouble for everything. It didn't matter if it was asking a question, he'd get grounded. He'd have to sit on his hands," said David Ehrlick. "He's just a little boy."

Said Ehrlick Sr.: "That's why I was afraid to even say, 'Robert, let's go fishing.'"

They said that they told investigators their concern when Jenkins was investigated for injuring her infant in October 2008.

Ehrlick Sr. praised the volunteers and investigators.

"People have been awesome. I just wish there was something I could do for all the people involved," he said. "In my opinion, the Boise police are doing a good job."

POLICE AT THE APARTMENT, THE LANDFILL, THE HOUSE

The police and FBI have been investigating some of the people closest to Robert - including the boy's mother, her boyfriend and his father.

After spending hours searching the apartment shared by Jenkins and Ehrlick Jr. - and removing at least two cars from the Oak Park Village apartment complex near Vista Avenue - police announced that they had found new evidence that showed Robert could have been "the victim of a tragic event." They asked the more than 2,300 volunteers scouring Boise to start looking for signs of a crime.

Meanwhile, officers converged on Wallis' home and cordoned off an area of the Hidden Hollow Landfill that had been left alone since trash was dumped there the morning after Robert was reported missing.

Landfill operators said they could use a backhoe to spread Saturday's refuse thin enough to be searched, if asked.

Boise police had said all week that they had no reason to suspect foul play and had no suspects. But friends and family members say officers had been examining several people close to Robert.

Sean Buffington, who lives upstairs and across the hall from the apartment shared by Jenkins and Ehrlick Jr., said Ehrlick Jr. told him last Sunday that "basically the two of them were the No. 1 suspects" already.

"He said they had been through the wringer as far as interrogations," Buffington said.

Jenkins is on parole after pleading guilty to a misdemeanor charge of injury to a child in relation to an October 2008 incident that left her infant with a fractured skull.

Ehrlick Jr. has been convicted of burglary, battery and possession of drug paraphernalia, and is banned by the courts from being alone with Robert's half-sister.

The couple, who had appeared but not spoken at many of the police updates, did not attend Friday's news conference.

A Saint Alphonsus Regional Medical Center spokesperson said Friday that Ehrlick Jr. had been admitted and released from the hospital but did not say exactly when or for what he was treated.

Police plan a news conference at noon Saturday to update the public.

Brian Murphy: 377-6444. Reporters Rocky Barker, Cynthia Sewell, Anna Webb and Bethann Stewart contributed.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: MuffyBee on August 01, 2009, 08:19:59 AM
http://www.idahostatesman.com/102/story/852598.html

Photos:

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Shawn Raecke / Idaho Statesman
A crime scene investigator works in the back yard of a home in 6600 block of Southdale Drive Friday afternoon as part of the search for missing eight-year-old Robert Manwill. Two neighbors peer through cracks in the fence to watch. Police have not said what they are looking for at this location.

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Katherine Jones / Idaho Statesman
Hundreds of people wait in line Friday morning to register at South Junior High School to join a massive, public search for missing 8-year-old Boise boy Robert Manwill.

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Katherine Jones / Idaho Statesman
Mary Yalch, right, and Karen Carrington join in the massive public search Friday morning for missing 8-year-old Boise boy Robert Manwill.

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Katherine Jones / Idaho Statesman
Robert Manwill family spokesperson Trish Burrill thanks the public for their massive search efforts during a noon press conference Friday. "Help us bring Robert home," she said. Boise police have announced that Robert may be injured or the victim of a tragic event.(http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2009/07/31/13/61-0729_local_landfill.embedded.prod_affiliate.36.jpg)
Shawn Raecke / Idaho Statesman
Deputy Paul Lim with Ada County Sheriffs Department fixes a cone at a taped off area at the Ada County Land Fill near Hidden Springs on Friday afternoon. The crime scene yellow tape running about 50 yards is blocking off an area at the land fill where last Saturday's trash was dumped. Dave Neal, director for Ada County solid waste management said that Boise Police had them contain the area in case any excavating was needed. Neal said that if needed they could peel off layers of trash with a bulldozer and lay the trash out flat at the bottom of the hill in about half a days time. Then the trash could be looked threw more easily.
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Shawn Raecke / Idaho Statesman
A crime scene investigator works in the backyard of a home in the 6600 block of Southdale Avenue Friday afternoon as part of the search for missing eight-year-old Robert Manwill.

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Katherine Jones / Idaho Statesman
Mary Yalch joins the massive, public search for Robert Manwill. "Because I can," she says.

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Katherine Jones / Idaho Statesman
Volunteers work with their team leader as they search along the Ridenbaugh Canal near Vista Avenue.

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Katherine Jones / Idaho Statesma
Volunteers wondered about an object that turned out to be a plastic bag on the banks of the Ridenbaugh Canal.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: MuffyBee on August 01, 2009, 08:40:56 AM
Link to photogallery with 53 pics-
Search for 8-year-old Robert Manwill
http://www.idahostatesman.com/397/gallery/848267-a848651-t3.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 01, 2009, 09:24:45 AM
Thanks Muffy.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 01, 2009, 09:35:46 AM
Future Search Efforts: At this time, thanks to the intense, multi-day volunteer search, many areas have been eliminated. As evidence and leads develop, other areas have been identified. At this time in the investigation and search for Robert, specific areas of interest must be searched by trained investigators. If investigators feel there's a need for additional volunteer searches, a call will go out to the community.

http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/Police/NewsReleases/2009/page45017.aspx


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 01, 2009, 10:05:16 AM
Just got caught up, thanks to everyone for the pictures and updates, and articles  ::MonkeyNoNo:: How anyone thought this woman should be near children is just way beyond me. In the above article the man talking who says Robert called him grandpa, really said everything one needs to know about why this woman should not have been around Robert unsupervised.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 01, 2009, 10:12:43 AM
Just got caught up, thanks to everyone for the pictures and updates, and articles  ::MonkeyNoNo:: How anyone thought this woman should be near children is just way beyond me. In the above article the man talking who says Robert called him grandpa, really said everything one needs to know about why this woman should not have been around Robert unsupervised.

I would hope that if *grandpa* ever saw any physical abuse from the mom to Robert, he would have reported it to CPS.  I find it very odd that moms b/f accused his father of taking Robert...i almost wish this were true and *grandpa* took Robert to hide him from his piece of crap mom.  Unfortunately I dont think Robert was so lucky   ::MonkeyWaa:: 

Its quite obvious that this little boy lived a not-so-wonderful life.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 01, 2009, 10:52:32 AM
Good morning Monkeys..I just got caught up on this case.

Thank you for all the photos, research and articles.  This is so sad..why that child wasn't in foster care I'll never understand.  Surely after she cracked te skull of her infant they would have figured she was not mother material....and all she got was a small fine and robation.  The laws in Idaho need to change to protect the children.

Doesn't sound good that they are saying they don't need searchers..only LE to investigate.  I hope they have some solid leads as to who did this..but I am betting the mother and boyfriend. Just so sad and what a waste of a precious life.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Babybear on August 01, 2009, 11:49:03 AM
$75.50 appears to be the going rate for a baby's fractured skull in Boise Idaho.  I wonder what the fine will be for the murder of an 8 year old boy.  Probably around $1.99. Why do these courts place so little value on an infant?  It's very sad.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Kat_Gram on August 01, 2009, 12:03:08 PM
I haven't been following this closely, thanks for all the updates.
I don't believe after reading and seeing what I saw on HLN or whatever that this boy is alive.
We have had some horrific cases of child abuse and eventual death here in Canada where the CFS workers must have been on crack when they didn't remove the kids or when they removed the kids and then gave them back.
Always a big hubbub in the paper and CFS's records re looked at and alot of blah blah and then the same thing happens to another kid. 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 01, 2009, 12:10:19 PM
from ktvb
UPDATE - 10:01am: Police resumed a search at a home on Southdale St. in south Ada County. Crews began working in the backyard at about 7 a.m. after shutting down late Friday night.

Investigators carefully dug up an area they were probing last night. That dirt was sifted, then removed. They then brought in the Boise Fire Department and drained a small above-ground pool nearby. Investigators then removed the pool and began probing in that area.

Crews are expected to be on scene throughout the day.

A news conference is scheduled to be held at noon. Stay with KTVB.COM for updates.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 12:15:23 PM
Good morning Monkeys..I just got caught up on this case.

Thank you for all the photos, research and articles.  This is so sad..why that child wasn't in foster care I'll never understand.  Surely after she cracked te skull of her infant they would have figured she was not mother material....and all she got was a small fine and robation.  The laws in Idaho need to change to protect the children.

Doesn't sound good that they are saying they don't need searchers..only LE to investigate.  I hope they have some solid leads as to who did this..but I am betting the mother and boyfriend. Just so sad and what a waste of a precious life.

Morning Gypsy and all!

The laws regarding children need to change in every state. We need to stop making it easy for the criminals and quit putting the victims back in danger. We need CPS to monitor and follow up instead of "trying to call" and giving up after they can't reach them once or twice. We need the judges to not accept some of these pleas and put some of these evil people in jail where they belong.

It makes me sick where the criminal seems to have more rights than the victim.

Regarding the searches: They went into Friday's massive search calling it a "one day push". So it isn't huge news to me that they don't want volunteers anymore. I do hope some of the leads they do have pan out and they can find little man and bring him to his daddy.

It sounds to me like "step-daddy" is trying to toss his dad under the bus and his best friend who's house they searched is covering up for him.

jmo


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 01, 2009, 12:21:08 PM
Is it because of too big of case loads, budget cuts, some of the social workers just are overwhelmed and basically have given up? Could these be some of the reasons why the Dept of Children and Family Services are not doing the best job?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 12:21:47 PM
From the aerial views of the house they are digging at we know that the neighbour to the right of that house shares a back access and also has the same practice of parking lots of cars. Do we know who lives next door?  I am betting they are either related or perhaps that is where Wallis lives.  Why would Wallis be putting new sod and a sandbox at 6629?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 01, 2009, 12:24:13 PM
From the aerial views of the house they are digging at we know that the neighbour to the right of that house shares a back access and also has the same practice of parking lots of cars. Do we know who lives next door?  I am betting they are either related or perhaps that is where Wallis lives.  Why would Wallis be putting new sod and a sandbox at 6629?
  ::MonkeyConfused::  It sure looks like a junk yard to me, and with all those cars, how would you even have known one of them went missing?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 12:28:47 PM
Someone 'came into his house and took the keys'. That's an odd choice of words for Mr. Wallis.

I would have said someone must have broke into my house and stole the keys.

Innocent bystanders usually are standing by watching but they don't participate in any crime that is taking place.

Odd choice of words too.

Convenient that he was gone for the weekend and when he returned he just happen to "find" the "stolen" SUV.

My hinky meter is going off big-time.

He is covering for someone and I think  it's "step-daddy".

He also has a baby with Jennifer Whitman who is listed at that address on whitepages.com



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 12:35:12 PM
Is it because of too big of case loads, budget cuts, some of the social workers just are overwhelmed and basically have given up? Could these be some of the reasons why the Dept of Children and Family Services are not doing the best job?

I deal with CPS workers on a daily basis. There are a lot of good ones but there are a small share of ones that have become jaded by the job and there are some that are just plain horrible.

Their caseloads though are huge. Too many children and not enough time to follow-up on any of them like they should. Budgets cuts and money play a huge role in it. They are overworked and under payed much like teachers. There needs to be more and they need to be better trained and better supervised. jmo



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 01, 2009, 12:38:48 PM
Is it because of too big of case loads, budget cuts, some of the social workers just are overwhelmed and basically have given up? Could these be some of the reasons why the Dept of Children and Family Services are not doing the best job?

I deal with CPS workers on a daily basis. There are a lot of good ones but there are a small share of ones that have become jaded by the job and there are some that are just plain horrible.

Their caseloads though are huge. Too many children and not enough time to follow-up on any of them like they should. Budgets cuts and money play a huge role in it. They are overworked and under payed much like teachers. There needs to be more and they need to be better trained and better supervised. jmo


Thank-you, what a shame. And also maybe even if one wanted to do the right thing and take a child out of a home, I would imagine the social worker would have to go to the powers that be, and it is their decision in the long run.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 12:39:32 PM
From the aerial views of the house they are digging at we know that the neighbour to the right of that house shares a back access and also has the same practice of parking lots of cars. Do we know who lives next door?  I am betting they are either related or perhaps that is where Wallis lives.  Why would Wallis be putting new sod and a sandbox at 6629?

Would the address go up or go down? I posted the names of 6630 residents a couple pages back.

I can see a sandbox. He does have a child.

The sod though. That is expensive for a renter to be putting in. Unless the owner bought it and he is putting it in, or they agreed he would put it in and the owner would take it off the rent.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 12:43:06 PM
From the aerial views of the house they are digging at we know that the neighbour to the right of that house shares a back access and also has the same practice of parking lots of cars. Do we know who lives next door?  I am betting they are either related or perhaps that is where Wallis lives.  Why would Wallis be putting new sod and a sandbox at 6629?
  ::MonkeyConfused::  It sure looks like a junk yard to me, and with all those cars, how would you even have known one of them went missing?

I come up with an address of 6605 for the neighbour who shares the back access.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 01, 2009, 12:43:07 PM
From the aerial views of the house they are digging at we know that the neighbour to the right of that house shares a back access and also has the same practice of parking lots of cars. Do we know who lives next door?  I am betting they are either related or perhaps that is where Wallis lives.  Why would Wallis be putting new sod and a sandbox at 6629?

Would the address go up or go down? I posted the names of 6630 residents a couple pages back.

I can see a sandbox. He does have a child.

The sod though. That is expensive for a renter to be putting in. Unless the owner bought it and he is putting it in, or they agreed he would put it in and the owner would take it off the rent.

Good question, yes sod is expensive. What a place for a child to play, I would be scared the child would get hurt with all the stuff in the yard.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 12:43:31 PM
From the aerial views of the house they are digging at we know that the neighbour to the right of that house shares a back access and also has the same practice of parking lots of cars. Do we know who lives next door?  I am betting they are either related or perhaps that is where Wallis lives.  Why would Wallis be putting new sod and a sandbox at 6629?

Would the address go up or go down? I posted the names of 6630 residents a couple pages back.

I can see a sandbox. He does have a child.

The sod though. That is expensive for a renter to be putting in. Unless the owner bought it and he is putting it in, or they agreed he would put it in and the owner would take it off the rent.



He said he and his wife have been re-doing their backyard, planting grass and adding a sandbox. He said he did not notice any disturbances in the backyard, which he said was large and had "a lot of junk" in it.


Planting grass could just be tossing some seed down and watering it.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 12:45:58 PM
From the aerial views of the house they are digging at we know that the neighbour to the right of that house shares a back access and also has the same practice of parking lots of cars. Do we know who lives next door?  I am betting they are either related or perhaps that is where Wallis lives.  Why would Wallis be putting new sod and a sandbox at 6629?

Would the address go up or go down? I posted the names of 6630 residents a couple pages back.

I can see a sandbox. He does have a child.

The sod though. That is expensive for a renter to be putting in. Unless the owner bought it and he is putting it in, or they agreed he would put it in and the owner would take it off the rent.


Bing shows 6630 as the house directly across the street from 6629.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 12:47:18 PM
From the aerial views of the house they are digging at we know that the neighbour to the right of that house shares a back access and also has the same practice of parking lots of cars. Do we know who lives next door?  I am betting they are either related or perhaps that is where Wallis lives.  Why would Wallis be putting new sod and a sandbox at 6629?
  ::MonkeyConfused::  It sure looks like a junk yard to me, and with all those cars, how would you even have known one of them went missing?

I come up with an address of 6605 for the neighbour who shares the back access.

Glenda M Gibson

   1. 6605 Southdale Ave
   2. Boise, ID


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on August 01, 2009, 12:53:01 PM
 ::MonkeyWaa:: This case is so sad because as in so many other cases like it, this WAS avoidable ::MonkeyNoNo::

Reminds me of when my son was victimized and it was referred to DCF, they couldn't even spell in their letters to the DA ::MonkeyConfused:: They couldn't figure out whether he was telling the truth or not even thought the rape crisis report showed abuse ::MonkeyEek:: So, they referred it out to LeBonhuer Children and Family where we all underwent pyscological testing and interviews, and their report put the final nail in the coffin when it came to the perp. It's so sad DCF wouldn't trust a 3 yr old ::MonkeyNoNo:: But, it all worked out fine in court, so I guess I should consider myself one of the lucky ones that their ineptness didn't interfere with the judge's decision.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 12:53:37 PM
From the aerial views of the house they are digging at we know that the neighbour to the right of that house shares a back access and also has the same practice of parking lots of cars. Do we know who lives next door?  I am betting they are either related or perhaps that is where Wallis lives.  Why would Wallis be putting new sod and a sandbox at 6629?
  ::MonkeyConfused::  It sure looks like a junk yard to me, and with all those cars, how would you even have known one of them went missing?

I come up with an address of 6605 for the neighbour who shares the back access.

Glenda M Gibson

   1. 6605 Southdale Ave
   2. Boise, ID

FKA Glenda M Haynes ,

Child support case, failure to license an animal, Collection agencies, Vicious dog violation, Child support, speeding, and this interesting one:

Ada 
1  Cases Found. 
State of Idaho vs. Glenda May Gibson 
No hearings scheduled 
Case:  CR-MD-2005-0007213
Old Case: M0507213   Magistrate   Judge:  James Cawthon   Amount due:  $63.50  Closed 
Charges:  Violation Date Charge Citation Disposition
  06/12/2005  Original: I18-918(3)(A) {M} Domestic Assault
Amended: I18-918(7)(B) {M} Enhancement-domestic Battery/assault-child Present
Arresting Officer:  Atwood, Ryan, AD  374694  Finding: Change Plea to Guilty Before Trial
Disposition date: 07/05/2007
Fines/fees: $63.50
Jail: 180 days
Suspended Jail: 179 days
Credited time (Yes): 1 day
 
 
Register of actions:  Date     
  06/13/2005  Case Created 
  06/13/2005  Order Appointing Public Defender 
  06/13/2005  Case Opened 
  06/13/2005  Video Arraignment - 06/13/2005 
  06/13/2005  Charge number 1: Charge Booked by ACSO - -Citation A 374694 
  06/13/2005  Charge number 1: Finger Print Card# Added - 0062035 
  06/13/2005  Video Arraignment - Video Arraignment - 06/13/2005 
  06/13/2005  Charge number 1: Charge Filed Cause Found 
  06/13/2005  Jury Trial Set - 11/01/2005 
  06/13/2005  Event Scheduled - Pre-Trial Conference - 09/29/2005 
  06/13/2005  Video Arraignment 
  06/13/2005  Order Appointing Public Defender 
  06/13/2005  Charge number 1: Rel from Custody Own Recognizance - 11/01/2005 
  06/13/2005  Charge number 1: Not Guilty Plea - 11/01/2005 
  06/13/2005  Order No Contact - W/Alva Haynes 
  06/14/2005  Defendant Request For Discovery 
  07/07/2005  State/City Request for Discovery 
  07/07/2005  State/City Response to Disc. Req. 
  07/18/2005  Notice - of Appearance as Conflict PD/Chastain 
  07/18/2005  Demand for Formal Complaint 
  07/18/2005  Defendant Request For Discovery - /Supplemental 
  07/18/2005  Defendant Request For Discovery 
  08/17/2005  State/City Request for Discovery 
  09/08/2005  Sworn Complaint 
  09/29/2005  Bench Warrant Created - M0507213.01-01 
  10/06/2005  Bench Warrant Issued - M0507213.01-01 - 10/06/2005 
  11/01/2005  Order Appointing Public Defender 
  11/01/2005  Order - Quashing BW 
  11/01/2005  Reset PT/JT 
  11/01/2005  Jury Trial Set - 03/29/2006 
  11/01/2005  Event Scheduled - Pre-Trial Conference - 03/01/2006 
  11/02/2005  Warrant Return Filed 
  11/07/2005  Stipulation - of Counsel/ Harrigfeld 
  11/07/2005  Defendant Request For Discovery 
  11/15/2005  State/City Request for Discovery 
  11/21/2005  Defendant Request For Discovery 
  12/30/2005  State/City Response to Disc. Req. - /Addendum 
  02/22/2006  Charge number 1: Bench Warrant Created - M0507213.01-01 
  02/22/2006  Charge number 1: Charge Amended From - S 18-918 M BATTERY 
  02/22/2006  Charge number 1: To - S 18-918-7A M BATTER 
  02/28/2006  State/City Response to Disc. Req. - /2nd Addendum 
  03/01/2006  PT Memo 
  03/01/2006  Bench Warrant Created - M0507213.01-02 
  03/09/2006  Bench Warrant Issued - M0507213.01-02 - 03/09/2006 
  08/28/2006  Charge number 1: Reviewed & Retained - Class Update 
  09/13/2006  Sub of Counsel/Taber 
  12/05/2006  Notice - of Change of Address for Defend Counsel 
  01/21/2007  Charge number 1: Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - .02 
  01/21/2007  Arrested on Warrant, Sequence# - 01/22/2007 
  01/21/2007  Bond Out Clerk Appearance - 02/05/2007 Thru - 02/12/2007 
  01/22/2007  Warrant Return Filed 
  02/05/2007  Order Appointing Public Defender 
  02/05/2007  Bond Out Clerk Appearance 
  02/05/2007  Jury Trial Set - 06/05/2007 
  02/05/2007  Event Scheduled - Pre-Trial Conference - 05/04/2007 
  02/20/2007  Sub of Counsel/Taber 
  02/20/2007  Defendant Request For Discovery 
  02/22/2007  Defendant Request For Discovery 
  02/22/2007  State/City Request for Discovery - /Another 
  06/05/2007  Event Scheduled - Hearing - 07/05/2007 
  07/05/2007  Charge number 1: Reviewed & Retained - Class Update 
  07/05/2007  Charge number 1: Change Plea to Guilty Before Trial 
  07/05/2007  Charge number 1: Final Judgment, Order or Decree 
  07/05/2007  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Fine & Costs - $63.50 
  07/05/2007  Charge number 1: Sentenced to Jail - 180d 179d sp 1d cr 
  07/05/2007  Charge number 1: Placed on Probation - 24M Standard Terms 
  07/05/2007  Def's Written G Plea 
  07/05/2007  Finger Print Card# Sent to BCI - 0100062035 
  07/05/2007  Finger Print Card# Sent to BCI - 0100092656 
  07/13/2007  Letter to Def./FA 
  07/17/2007  Exoneration of Bond - LG10-478183 - 07/17/2007 
 
 
Connection: Public 
 
 https://www.idcourts.us/repository/caseHistory.do?roaDetail=yes&schema=ADA&county=Ada&partySeq=1146387&displayName=Gibson%2C+Glenda+May
 
 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 12:57:44 PM
I am noticing that the fines for tobacco violations and other minor vehicle infrations are higher than violations or cases involving children.  WTH!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 01, 2009, 01:00:20 PM
I am noticing that the fines for tobacco violations and other minor vehicle infrations are higher than violations or cases involving children.  WTH!
Unbelievable  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:10:49 PM
Is there a link for the Noon news conference?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 01, 2009, 01:14:16 PM
I noticed that too Northern Rose.  And in the article with E Sr talking, he said they even brought it to the court's attention ,when the Mom had her hearing, that they had concerns with Robert being around his mother.  I wonder why DCF didn't investigate what might have been going on with Robert at that time since the mother's boyfriend's family showed concerned for Robert's well being in her care.  Sounds like he was very restricted and not allowed to be a little boy at all.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:21:23 PM
The BF is pointing the finger towards his own father yet he is ok staying with the woman who cracked his child's head open.  There are deeper issues here.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 01:28:32 PM
By KBCI Web Staff BOISE - Authorities are holding a press conference at noon today about the missing 8-year-old Boise boy.

Police called are urging the media to attend the news conference. They did not elaborate about what details will be discussed.

Robert Manwill, 8, has been missing for a week now.

The press conference will be streamed live on our website 2news.tv

Stay tuned for details.

http://www.2news.tv/news/local/52199877.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 01, 2009, 01:33:08 PM
By KBCI Web Staff BOISE - Authorities are holding a press conference at noon today about the missing 8-year-old Boise boy.

Police called are urging the media to attend the news conference. They did not elaborate about what details will be discussed.

Robert Manwill, 8, has been missing for a week now.

The press conference will be streamed live on our website 2news.tv

Stay tuned for details.

http://www.2news.tv/news/local/52199877.html
Thanks, urging the media to attend  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 01:40:49 PM
By KBCI Web Staff BOISE - Authorities are holding a press conference at noon today about the missing 8-year-old Boise boy.

Police called are urging the media to attend the news conference. They did not elaborate about what details will be discussed.

Robert Manwill, 8, has been missing for a week now.

The press conference will be streamed live on our website 2news.tv

Stay tuned for details.

http://www.2news.tv/news/local/52199877.html

Thanks for the link. I have been tending to some things around here and have be almost afraid to log on here or even turn the news on today. I have caught up with all the posts from last night now. Thank you everyone for the news link and all the research.

This sound very ominous to urge all the media to attend the presser.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 01, 2009, 02:02:28 PM
CitizenKane wrote on August, 1 10:40 AM:
Just found out from a close and very reliable source that BPD have known for a long time the parents killed him. Also, they have no doubt what so ever they will catch them!


http://www.idahostatesman.com/localnews/story/852598.html?pageNum=5&&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container

comment from above link...FWIW


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: lady on August 01, 2009, 02:03:18 PM
Anyone have link for live newsfeed from news conference?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 01, 2009, 02:07:02 PM
Anyone have link for live newsfeed from news conference?

http://www.2news.tv/home/ondemand/cbslivefeed

here i think


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: lady on August 01, 2009, 02:10:15 PM
Anyone have link for live newsfeed from news conference?

http://www.2news.tv/home/ondemand/cbslivefeed

here i think
It is noon out there right now isnt it??? Im not seeing anything yet


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 02:14:07 PM
Anyone have link for live newsfeed from news conference?

http://www.2news.tv/home/ondemand/cbslivefeed

here i think
It is noon out there right now isnt it??? Im not seeing anything yet

Yes, it is. I guess they are running a little late....May not be a good sign.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: lady on August 01, 2009, 02:16:02 PM
Anyone have link for live newsfeed from news conference?

http://www.2news.tv/home/ondemand/cbslivefeed

here i think
It is noon out there right now isnt it??? Im not seeing anything yet

Yes, it is. I guess they are running a little late....May not be a good sign.
I agree...thanks for the link


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 01, 2009, 02:19:09 PM
Is there anyone local that can tell us if it is on their local stations?  I am refreshing like crazy as well and nothing.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: lady on August 01, 2009, 02:20:21 PM
Is there anyone local that can tell us if it is on their local stations?  I am refreshing like crazy as well and nothing.
I am too and still have nothing..


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 02:33:17 PM
1/2 an hour late and no word from the media.

dogs hitting in the backyard, red evidence flags.


things are not looking good.

::crys::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 01, 2009, 02:33:57 PM
1/2 an hour late and no word from the media.

dogs hitting in the backyard, red evidence flags.


things are not looking good.

::crys::
::MonkeyNoNo::  Thanks for the updates.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 02:36:38 PM
1/2 an hour late and no word from the media.

dogs hitting in the backyard, red evidence flags.


things are not looking good.

::crys::

 ::MonkeyNoNo::   Thank you.    ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 02:43:34 PM
Boise police released little information in a noon press conference Saturday to update the community on developments in the disappearance of 8-year-old Robert Manwill.

Boise Deputy Chief Jim Kerns acknowledged that crews searched a home in Southwest Boise but he did not say what evidence crews removed. He said crews will continue to search all day in different places.

Robert's aunt Trish Burrill said the family is still hoping for the boy's safe return. Again, Robert's mother Melissa Jenkins, and her boyfriend, Daniel Ehrlick Jr., did not attend the conference.

"Every family member whether you see them or not are very close," Burrill said.

Eight-year-old Robert Manwill has been missing since about 9:30 p.m. July 24, and police said Friday that evidence showed he could have been the victim of a tragic event.

In the past week, hundreds of officers and thousands of residents have scoured a 2-mile radius from Manwill's Southwest Boise home near Cherry Lane and Vista Avenue but have come up empty handed.

On Thursday evening, officers have searched the apartment of Manwill's mother and removed at least two cars and other evidence from the apartment complex.

On Friday, police activity intensified as volunteers continued searching for the boy or evidence of a crime. Meanwhile, officers cordoned off an area of the Hidden Hollow Landfill that had been left alone since trash was dumped there the morning after Robert was reported missing. Later that day, detectives also searched the back yard of a rental home in the 6600 block of Southdale Avenue, near Five Mile Road in Southwest Boise.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/852938.html


for some reason it wasn't streamed lived. I am sure video will be up soon.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 01, 2009, 02:45:28 PM
Thanks


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 01, 2009, 02:50:28 PM
  He said crews will continue to search all day in different places.  I wonder where the different places are?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Sassycat on August 01, 2009, 02:51:20 PM
Thanks

Yes - thanks.    Also, thanks to the monkeys who have provided reseach and links. 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 02:56:09 PM
Speaking Aunt Trish.
From left to right:
Robert's half brother (Charles' oldest son), Charles (Robert's dad), Charles' wife, Afton, Charles Brother, (I believe his name is Kevin, IIRC) and his girlfriend/wife.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 03:00:41 PM
  He said crews will continue to search all day in different places.  I wonder where the different places are?


Wherever the investigation leads them I imagine.

They are still searching at the house on Southdale (or still was as of 10 this morning) The landfill may be one more place they plan on searching, seeing how they had an officer guarding the trash.

I don't imagine there will much news or many updates today, seeing how it's Saturday and most media outlets (especially their web staff) usually run skeleton crews on Sundays.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 03:01:48 PM
edit correction:

seeing how it's SUNDAY. Not Saturday. LOL

I didn't get much sleep, sorry.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 03:05:00 PM
Do I have it correct that Trish Burrill is Melissa Jenkins sister?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 01, 2009, 03:23:28 PM
Do I have it correct that Trish Burrill is Melissa Jenkins sister?
I'm not sure Fanny


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 03:30:33 PM
Fanny, I don't know which side of the family Aunt Trish is from. Sorry.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tracygirl on August 01, 2009, 03:38:55 PM
Horrible...I pray they find this little boy soon.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Kat_Gram on August 01, 2009, 03:40:15 PM
On HLN they said the police found some sort of evidence that the boy was 'hurt" . Must have been blood. Doesn't have to be new blood, given the family history. Or, he could have been hurt and did a runner. Or a worse case scenario. So many If's.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 03:41:22 PM
More than 2,300 volunteers join search for Robert Manwill
Drops of blood were traced to a dog with a hurt paw. A scrap of cloth in the middle of Broadway Avenue was from a T-shirt, but not the onelast seen on Robert.
BY SANDRA FORESTER AND ANNA WEBB - sforester@idahostatesman.com awebb@idahostatesman.com
Copyright: © 2009 Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/01/09

MICHAEL AND LISA SHOE, GARDEN CITY

9 A.M. AT HILLCREST SHOPPING CENTER: Michael Shoe had to be at work by 2 p.m., but he spent the morning with his wife, Lisa, searching for Robert.

"We just wanted to help," he said. "I'm just ready to go out and put my energy into it. The boy came up missing from our neighborhood - Boise. This is where we live. We all have to live together. We have to watch out for each other."

Shoe said his son is 19 and has never strayed from home, but his heart goes out to Robert's family. He said it would feel good to find the boy.

"It could have happened to us. It happens all the time."

VINSON GUADAGNO,CALDWELL

9 A.M. AT HILLCREST SHOPPING CENTER: Vinson Guadagno moved to Idaho six months ago and just found work with the U.S. Forest Service.

But he remembers a time when his Florida community united to support his family through a serious motorcycle accident involving his daughter.

The community helped with medical bills and more.

"This is my way of giving back," he said. "I've had a kid that was overdue. I know the anxiety."

FRANCES AND LUIS GUTIERREZ, NAMPA

9 A.M. AT HILLCREST SHOPPING CENTER: Frances Gutierrez and her son, 9-year-old Luis, showed up in the morning to help find Robert.

Though they were unable to participate because Luis is younger than 18, Gutierrez used the situation to reinforce messages about safety with her son.

"I tell him that I worry when he is at his grandmother's," Gutierrez said.

She teaches her kids not to talk to strangers and to be aware of their surroundings even while they are with family. Sometimes you can't even trust your family, she said.

Gutierrez said she lives in a Nampa apartment complex and keeps a close watch on her sons, ages 9 and 4 and 15 months.

"There's a lot of action, but nobody's watching," she said.

What might have happened to Robert is baffling to her.

Gutierrez said it seems that only God knows where he is or whether he's alive, and she hopes the boy is found soon.

"It doesn't matter how we find him, but that we find him," she said. "It would be really heartbreaking (to find his body) but at least it would be closure. They could move on and heal."

NEERAJA KUSUMA, BOISE

NOON AT HILLCREST SHOPPING CENTER: Seeing Robert's photo on a flier at the library took Neeraja Kusuma back many years to when her brother, then age 10, disappeared for 24 hours.

"I was almost in tears," Kusuma said. "I still remember my mother, the crying."

It was a horrible, tense 24 hours at the family's home. Fortunately, her brother, who had gotten on a train to travel a bit, found some law enforcement officers who got him home safely.

She hopes that searchers will find Robert alive, but she knows it's possible they may not.

"It makes me sad."

JOHN OLIVA, ONTARIO

NOON AT GARFIELD ELEMENTARY: John Oliva drove from Oregon to help in the search. Oliva will start a new job - teaching students not much older than Robert - in Mountain Home this fall.

Of the volunteers who covered the neighborhood around Ivywild Park on Friday, Oliva was one of the more aggressive when it came to pushing aside fronds of blue spruce and braving cheatgrass on ditch banks.

"This is looking for anything that resembles anything," he said.

Boise police Officer Kip Wills, who led Oliva's search party, had spoken candidly to volunteers when the case became a criminal investigation.

"You need to be on the lookout for any place an 8-year-old could be. If something bad has happened, it's possible you could smell an odor. Don't start digging. Call one of us," Wills said.

Later, Oliva wryly noted that he'd worked as a lookout for forest fires in the past and that a keen sense of smell had served him well in that job.

He is already planning to use the story of Robert Manwill, and of his own day spent with the search party, as a lesson for his students about how kids can get into trouble.

"It's a teaching opportunity, but not the kind you want," Oliva said.

SARAH LEDFORD

NOON, GARFIELD ELEMENTARY: When Sarah Ledford's son, who is the same age as Robert, went missing, the story had a happy ending.

He was next door at the neighbors' house. "They worked during the day, so I hadn't thought to look there," she said.

She had panicked and called the police, "and 14 police cars were there in a minute," Ledford said.

"Your heart just sinks when you think your child is gone. Then when they're OK, you feel a mixture of relief, even while you're mad at them." One of the officers who came that day took care of the scolding for her.

"He sat my son down and had a talk with him."

Ledford, a real estate agent, has the names, birth dates and the baby feet of both her sons tattooed on her calf.

She joined the morning and noon searches at Garfield Elementary on Friday. Her husband was planning to join her for the last search of the day after he got off work.

They're avid backpackers, used to long, uphill treks. Covering several miles of flat sidewalk, even on a scorching day, was no big deal, she said.

She was looking into small spaces as she walked, behind low bushes and garbage cans. "My 8-year-old even weighs the same as Robert. He's a little-bitty dude," she said.

That the search for Robert became a crime investigation didn't matter to Ledford, who was determined to keep searching.

"It's what I had expected, but it's hard to hear that officially," she said.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/852584.html

2300 plus angels for Robert. Bless each and everyone of them.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 03:53:59 PM
Search for missing boy becomes "focused"

01:36 PM MDT on Saturday, August 1, 2009

KTVB.COM

KTVB

BOISE - After a day of rapid developments into the search for missing boy Robert Manwill, the news again slowed to a crawl Saturday.

Boise Police Deputy Chief Jim Kerns told media during a noon briefing that the search is still ongoing, and has become "more focused," after a widespread effort involved more than 2,300 volunteers Friday.

Investigators spent much of Friday night and early Saturday searching a home on Southdale St. in S. Ada County, but those efforts ended at about 10:30 a.m. Saturday with no announced outcome. Kerns said the Southdale location is just one of a number of areas being looked at.

Kerns says a number of tips continue to pour in by phone, e-mail and U.S. Mail - more than 300 in all. He said a large amount of evidence has been collected, but they cannot detail what that evidence includes.

He said activity will continue by the hour throughout the weekend.

Boise Police spokesperson Lynn Hightower said the timeline into what happened the day Manwill was reported missing continues to develop - but she could not provide further details, other than to say he was reported missing at 10:11 p.m. Friday, July 24th.

As has become common practice at the media briefings, Kerns was flanked by members of Manwill's family. For the first time, his older brother was present. Manwill's his father and wife, aunt, uncle and his maternal grandparents also attended the briefing.

Manwill's mother was not at the briefing as she was during the early part of the week. Police said they do know where the woman, Melissa Lee Jenkins and her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick are, but could not elaborate. No arrests have been made in the case.

Aunt Trish Burrill thanked the community for their outpouring of help - including the Friday volunteer search. She says community members can continue to help by posting flyers, wearing green ribbons or even simple acts like talking about the missing boy.

For now, no further public searches are planned. Kerns said efforts for now will remain in the hands of trained investigators, but further public searches may be needed in the future.

Hightower said the overall case is unprecedented in an informal survey of Boise Police history.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0109-manwill_sat_morning.9a96d026.html



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 03:57:52 PM
edit correction:

seeing how it's SUNDAY. Not Saturday. LOL

I didn't get much sleep, sorry.

strike that, reverse it.
i need sleep. lol


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 04:01:31 PM
edit correction:

seeing how it's SUNDAY. Not Saturday. LOL

I didn't get much sleep, sorry.

strike that, reverse it.
i need sleep. lol

 ::MonkeyDevil:: We knew what you meant. And you probably could use a nap. 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 04:06:10 PM
Robert Manwill's uncle: Speculation about suspects is premature
By Dan Popkey - dpopkey@idahostatesman.com
Copyright: © 2009 Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/01/09

Robert Manwill’s uncle said speculation about criminal suspects in his nephew’s disappearance is premature.

Layn Branson of Boise responded Saturday to reports that Robert’s mother, Melissa Jenkins, and her boyfriend, Daniel Ehrlick Jr., were prime suspects.

“I would have to say that’s bunk right now because we haven’t been told anything,” Branson said shortly before Saturday’s press conference with Boise police. Branson’s sister, Afton, is married to Robert’s father, Charles.

Branson said he’s attended police briefings with family members and that there’s been no suggestion that Jenkins and Ehrlick are targets of the investigation.

“We don’t know,” Branson said. “All we know is that they’ve been talked to.”

Boise Police Chief Mike Masterson said he is unaware of any list ranking suspects. “We are not focused on any on specific area,” Masterson said Saturday. “We are doing a thorough investigation.”

Branson joined other family members at Saturday’s press conference, standing behind Deputy Police Chief Jim Kerns. Jenkins and Ehrlick, who’d attended earlier press conferences, weren’t present at Friday or Saturday’s sessions.

Boise Police spokeswoman Lynn Hightower said she knows where Jenkins are Ehrlick are, but declined to elaborate. Their apartment, where Robert was staying before he was reported missing July 24, has been searched at least twice by police forensics teams since Thursday night.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/852991.html

Layn is the one pictures i posted previously on the right. I thought he was Charles' brother but he is Afton's.
Robert's older half-brother is named Ken not Kevin.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 04:41:49 PM
http://www.ktvb.com/video/index.html?nvid=385237
Saturday news conference 08/01/09 6:11


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 04:45:06 PM
http://www.amw.com/show_archive/tv_detail.cfm?currentDate=2009-08-01

Robert Manwill will be featured on AMW tonight.
9pm Eastern and Pacific, 8pm Central.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 04:55:37 PM
The search for Robert Manwill: Boise police continue investigation but reveal no breaks in the case
Patrick Orr - Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/01/09

Boise police officials did not say Saturday if they recovered any pertinent evidence at a home in the 6600 block of Southdale Avenue in their search for missing 8-year-old Robert Manwill.

That search, done in the backyard of a home near the Five Mile/Amity Road neighborhood in southern Ada County, was done by Ada County Sheriff’s and Idaho State Police investigators, who were aided by Boise State University officials with ground-penetrating radar on Friday night and Saturday morning, Boise Police Deputy Chief Jim Kerns said.

“Our leads are narrowing and becoming more specific,” Kerns said Saturday. “The Southdale residence became an area of interest due to a developing lead in the investigation — that location is one of many areas of interest.”

Manwill was reported missing to Boise police shortly after 10 p.m. July 24 from an Vista Avenue-area apartment complex. Boise police officials say they have undisclosed evidence indicating that Robert may have been injured and possibly the “victim of a tragic event,” but have not yet been able to find him.

An area of the Hidden Hollow landfill, near Northwest Boise, has been isolated by police tape in case authorities needed to search trash dumped last weekend, but that area remained unstaffed Saturday morning.

The man whose Boise home and yard were searched Friday night for evidence related to Manwill's disappearance says he knows the 8-year-old's family but has no idea what may have happened to him or what police are looking for at his rental home.

Kerns said Saturday investigators continue to investigate leads and could search the same areas multiple times as they investigate those leads.

Manwill’s mother’s apartment off Vista Avenue — where the boy was reported missing — has been searched twice since Thursday. Kerns also has declined to say what evidence was taken from there.

For the second day in a row the boy’s mother, Melissa Jenkins, and her boyfriend, Daniel Ehrlick Jr., have not attended the daily police press conference. Ehrlick was admitted to Saint Alphonsus Regional Medical Center Friday for an undisclosed reason, but was treated and released.

Family spokeswoman Trish Burrill, Robert’s aunt, seemed to address Jenkins’ absence when she told reporters Saturday that “every member of Robert’s family, whether you see them or not, we are very close ... and we are all doing everything we can do to bring Robert home.”

Burrill and Kerns both thanked the more than 2,000 volunteers who helped police search within a 2-mile radius of the Vista neighborhood Friday.

“Yesterday’s volunteer search was a major, major step in helping us confirm some (leads), to discount others, and help investigators to narrow their focus,” Kerns said.

While the volunteer effort is over, dozens of investigators are continuing to work the case this weekend and follow up all pertinent leads, Kerns said.

“Much of that investigation is happening away from the lens of media cameras,” Kerns said. “Trying to find Robert is an hour-by-hour effort.”

Burrill continued to ask for community support in the search for her nephew.

“We know the police have to narrow their search, but you may continue to help up us by posting fliers, wearing ribbons and continuing to talk about Robert,” Burrill said.

Kerns said the Boise police continue to be assisted by all Treasure Valley law enforcement organizations and the FBI.

Many officers are working overtime. Boise Police spokeswoman Lynn Hightower said there has been no limit on overtime as Boise Mayor Dave Bieter has told the police to do what they need to do to find the boy.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/852938.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 01, 2009, 04:56:24 PM
Thanks Pink.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on August 01, 2009, 05:34:22 PM
http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0109-manwill_sat_morning.9a96d026.html

 
Search for missing boy becomes "focused"

02:27 PM MDT on Saturday, August 1, 2009


BOISE - After a day of rapid developments into the search for missing boy Robert Manwill, the news again slowed to a crawl Saturday.

Boise Police Deputy Chief Jim Kerns told media during a noon briefing that the search is still ongoing, and has become "more focused," after a widespread effort involved more than 2,300 volunteers Friday.

Investigators spent much of Friday night and early Saturday searching a home on Southdale St. in S. Ada County, but those efforts ended at about 10:30 a.m. Saturday with no announced outcome. Kerns said the Southdale location is just one of a number of areas being looked at.

Kerns says a number of tips continue to pour in by phone, e-mail and U.S. Mail - more than 300 in all. He said a large amount of evidence has been collected, but they cannot detail what that evidence includes.

Boise Police spokesperson Lynn Hightower said the timeline into what happened the day Manwill was reported missing continues to develop - but she could not provide further details, other than to say he was reported missing at 10:11 p.m. Friday, July 24th.

As has become common practice at the media briefings, Kerns was flanked by members of Manwill's family. For the first time, his older brother was present. Manwill's his father and wife, aunt, uncle and his maternal grandparents also attended the briefing.

Manwill's mother was not at the briefing as she was during the early part of the week. Police said they do know where the woman, Melissa Lee Jenkins and her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick are, but could not elaborate. No arrests have been made in the case.

Aunt Trish Burrill thanked the community for their outpouring of help - including the Friday volunteer search. She says community members can continue to help by posting flyers, wearing green ribbons or even simple acts like talking about the missing boy.

For now, no further public searches are planned. Kerns said efforts for now will remain in the hands of trained investigators, but further public searches may be needed in the future.

Hightower said the overall case is unprecedented in an informal survey of Boise Police history.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 07:10:14 PM
Thanks KLAAS.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: MuffyBee on August 01, 2009, 07:11:09 PM
Please say a prayer and light a candle for Robert, that he will be found.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on August 01, 2009, 08:10:37 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,536082,00.html

(http://www.foxnews.com/images/548735/3_62_073109_missingboy.jpg)

Landfill Searched as Thousands Look for Missing Idaho Boy
Saturday , August 01, 2009

Investigators scoured a local landfill and another home in Boise for an 8-year-old Idaho boy who vanished more than a week ago, police said Saturday.

Detectives looked through the backyard of a rental house in southwest Boise for signs of little Robert Manwill, according to Deputy Police Chief Jim Kerns.

Kerns wouldn't say what evidence was taken from the latest residence searched. The boy disappeared July 24 after leaving his mother's apartment.

Crews planned to continue their effort to find the missing child throughout the day Saturday, Kerns told reporters at a noon press conference.

Officers roped off an area of the Hidden Hollow Landfill to weed through garbage dumped the day after Robert vanished, the Idaho Statesman said.

Thousands of volunteers helped look for Robert Friday night, one week after he disappeared. Boise police said more than 2,300 searchers combed the city in an effort to find the child.

The boy's father, Charles Manwill, lives in New Plymouth and has had custody since 2008. Robert was visiting his mother in Boise when he was last seen.

Kerns said Friday new evidence in the case indicated suspicious circumstances surrounding the boy's disappearance, theorizing Robert could be hurt "or the victim of a tragic event."

Friday's search was believed to be the biggest attempt to find a missing person in the city of Boise's history. Volunteers covered a 2-mile radius around the area where Robert was reported missing.

Investigators searched his mother's apartment Thursday night, removing two cars and other evidence.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on August 01, 2009, 08:25:15 PM
Please say a prayer and light a candle for Robert, that he will be found.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m
Thanks Muffy, I lit two, I hope that is okay. JSM


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 08:46:02 PM
Please say a prayer and light a candle for Robert, that he will be found.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m
Thanks Muffy, I lit two, I hope that is okay. JSM

I lit one too, and I prayed that this would not turn into another of the children missing and never found.  I feel so much pity for his little soul.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 01, 2009, 09:04:15 PM
Manwill's mother was not at the briefing as she was during the early part of the week. Police said they do know where the woman, Melissa Lee Jenkins and her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick are, but could not elaborate. No arrests have been made in the case.   (What an odd thing to say, I'm sure they know where they are, and they are watching them closely, you almost wonder if they are in jail for other offences?)


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: MuffyBee on August 01, 2009, 09:06:11 PM
Please say a prayer and light a candle for Robert, that he will be found.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m
Thanks Muffy, I lit two, I hope that is okay. JSM

That's so sweet of you JSM.  I think little Robert needs all the prayers and candles lit we can muster.  Bless him. 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 09:12:13 PM
Manwill's mother was not at the briefing as she was during the early part of the week. Police said they do know where the woman, Melissa Lee Jenkins and her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick are, but could not elaborate. No arrests have been made in the case.   (What an odd thing to say, I'm sure they know where they are, and they are watching them closely, you almost wonder if they are in jail for other offences?)

This is beginning to seem so familiar, much like Nevaeh's disappearance. I am praying that the outcome is not the same. And still no one is charged.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 01, 2009, 09:12:17 PM
Manwill's mother was not at the briefing as she was during the early part of the week. Police said they do know where the woman, Melissa Lee Jenkins and her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick are, but could not elaborate. No arrests have been made in the case.   (What an odd thing to say, I'm sure they know where they are, and they are watching them closely, you almost wonder if they are in jail for other offences?)
or maybe being held??  i know in ar they can keep you for 72 hours before they have to book you..don't know about Ohio...one thing i do get from reading between the lines is that poor little Robert will either soon be found or someone is about to get arrested.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 09:14:10 PM
America's Most Wanted is on. John Walsh is supposed to cover Robert's story tonight.  Oh, please, someone find Robert.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 09:16:18 PM
Manwill's mother was not at the briefing as she was during the early part of the week. Police said they do know where the woman, Melissa Lee Jenkins and her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick are, but could not elaborate. No arrests have been made in the case.   (What an odd thing to say, I'm sure they know where they are, and they are watching them closely, you almost wonder if they are in jail for other offences?)
or maybe being held??  i know in ar they can keep you for 72 hours before they have to book you..don't know about Ohio...one thing i do get from reading between the lines is that poor little Robert will either soon be found or someone is about to get arrested.

Idaho, MamaCrazy. We have enough trouble up here of our own.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 01, 2009, 09:17:46 PM
Manwill's mother was not at the briefing as she was during the early part of the week. Police said they do know where the woman, Melissa Lee Jenkins and her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick are, but could not elaborate. No arrests have been made in the case.   (What an odd thing to say, I'm sure they know where they are, and they are watching them closely, you almost wonder if they are in jail for other offences?)

This is beginning to seem so familiar, much like Nevaeh's disappearance. I am praying that the outcome is not the same. And still no one is charged.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
I am really wondering why the boyfriend was in the hospital the other day? I was reading somewhere, could have been comments on the local site, that there were several LE at the hospital with him. I was really thinking that perhaps someone was talking, but now I'm not sure.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 01, 2009, 09:18:30 PM
Manwill's mother was not at the briefing as she was during the early part of the week. Police said they do know where the woman, Melissa Lee Jenkins and her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick are, but could not elaborate. No arrests have been made in the case.   (What an odd thing to say, I'm sure they know where they are, and they are watching them closely, you almost wonder if they are in jail for other offences?)
or maybe being held??  i know in ar they can keep you for 72 hours before they have to book you..don't know about Ohio...one thing i do get from reading between the lines is that poor little Robert will either soon be found or someone is about to get arrested.

Idaho, MamaCrazy. We have enough trouble up here of our own.  ::MonkeyCool::
whoops ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 01, 2009, 09:19:17 PM
Manwill's mother was not at the briefing as she was during the early part of the week. Police said they do know where the woman, Melissa Lee Jenkins and her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick are, but could not elaborate. No arrests have been made in the case.   (What an odd thing to say, I'm sure they know where they are, and they are watching them closely, you almost wonder if they are in jail for other offences?)
or maybe being held??  i know in ar they can keep you for 72 hours before they have to book you..don't know about Ohio...one thing i do get from reading between the lines is that poor little Robert will either soon be found or someone is about to get arrested.

Idaho, MamaCrazy. We have enough trouble up here of our own.  ::MonkeyCool::
whoops ::MonkeyEek::
i guess your on my mind miss Mae ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 01, 2009, 09:20:14 PM
Manwill's mother was not at the briefing as she was during the early part of the week. Police said they do know where the woman, Melissa Lee Jenkins and her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick are, but could not elaborate. No arrests have been made in the case.   (What an odd thing to say, I'm sure they know where they are, and they are watching them closely, you almost wonder if they are in jail for other offences?)
or maybe being held??  i know in ar they can keep you for 72 hours before they have to book you..don't know about ohio Idaho...one thing i do get from reading between the lines is that poor little Robert will either soon be found or someone is about to get arrested.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 01, 2009, 09:25:30 PM
can some monkey help me with this...i really haven't been watching my cnn or hln 'cause mj hijacked them but can some one tell me...how he was reported missing, by who, and what the situation was (like was outside playing and just vanished?) tia


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 09:27:18 PM
Manwill's mother was not at the briefing as she was during the early part of the week. Police said they do know where the woman, Melissa Lee Jenkins and her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick are, but could not elaborate. No arrests have been made in the case.   (What an odd thing to say, I'm sure they know where they are, and they are watching them closely, you almost wonder if they are in jail for other offences?)

This is beginning to seem so familiar, much like Nevaeh's disappearance. I am praying that the outcome is not the same. And still no one is charged.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
I am really wondering why the boyfriend was in the hospital the other day? I was reading somewhere, could have been comments on the local site, that there were several LE at the hospital with him. I was really thinking that perhaps someone was talking, but now I'm not sure.

CBS2 called the police yesterday after the rumor came out that they were both in custody and the police said they had no one in custody.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 01, 2009, 09:28:45 PM
never mind
Quote
Boise police say Robert Manwill went missing about 9:30 p.m. Friday in southwestern Boise and that he may have been headed to a party at a friend's house when he disappeared.
what???
9:30??? 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 09:29:28 PM
can some monkey help me with this...i really haven't been watching my cnn or hln 'cause mj hijacked them but can some one tell me...how
was reported missing, by who, and what the situation was (like was outside playing and just vanished?) tia

mama, if you start on page one and read, all the articles are posted in order.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 01, 2009, 09:31:20 PM
Manwill's mother was not at the briefing as she was during the early part of the week. Police said they do know where the woman, Melissa Lee Jenkins and her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick are, but could not elaborate. No arrests have been made in the case.   (What an odd thing to say, I'm sure they know where they are, and they are watching them closely, you almost wonder if they are in jail for other offences?)

This is beginning to seem so familiar, much like Nevaeh's disappearance. I am praying that the outcome is not the same. And still no one is charged.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
I am really wondering why the boyfriend was in the hospital the other day? I was reading somewhere, could have been comments on the local site, that there were several LE at the hospital with him. I was really thinking that perhaps someone was talking, but now I'm not sure.

CBS2 called the police yesterday after the rumor came out that they were both in custody and the police said they had no one in custody.
pink do you know the county and if they have a jail web-site??  does 'custody' mean being held or under arrest?  i don't know.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 01, 2009, 09:32:09 PM
can some monkey help me with this...i really haven't been watching my cnn or hln 'cause mj hijacked them but can some one tell me...how
was reported missing, by who, and what the situation was (like was outside playing and just vanished?) tia

mama, if you start on page one and read, all the articles are posted in order.
i'm already on it  ::MonkeyWink:: thanks pink!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on August 01, 2009, 09:37:09 PM
Please say a prayer and light a candle for Robert, that he will be found.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m
Thanks Muffy, I lit two, I hope that is okay. JSM

That's so sweet of you JSM.  I think little Robert needs all the prayers and candles lit we can muster.  Bless him. 
His case really breaks my heart. He should have never been allowed with that "mother"  ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 09:38:42 PM
Manwill's mother was not at the briefing as she was during the early part of the week. Police said they do know where the woman, Melissa Lee Jenkins and her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick are, but could not elaborate. No arrests have been made in the case.   (What an odd thing to say, I'm sure they know where they are, and they are watching them closely, you almost wonder if they are in jail for other offences?)

This is beginning to seem so familiar, much like Nevaeh's disappearance. I am praying that the outcome is not the same. And still no one is charged.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
I am really wondering why the boyfriend was in the hospital the other day? I was reading somewhere, could have been comments on the local site, that there were several LE at the hospital with him. I was really thinking that perhaps someone was talking, but now I'm not sure.

CBS2 called the police yesterday after the rumor came out that they were both in custody and the police said they had no one in custody.
pink do you know the county and if they have a jail web-site??  does 'custody' mean being held or under arrest?  i don't know.

Neither are in custody or under arrest.

The county jail is here:
http://www.adasheriff.org/ArrestsReport/


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 01, 2009, 09:41:55 PM
thanks


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 09:43:17 PM
Please say a prayer and light a candle for Robert, that he will be found.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m
Thanks Muffy, I lit two, I hope that is okay. JSM

That's so sweet of you JSM.  I think little Robert needs all the prayers and candles lit we can muster.  Bless him. 
His case really breaks my heart. He should have never been allowed with that "mother"  ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyWaa::

Me too. He never should have been allowed unsupervised visitation with his mother. I don't know what the court was thinking.

I can't imagine the pain little guy's dad must be in. You can tell by the photos that Robert's family is in hurting so much and they know.

::MonkeyWaa::


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m

I am praying for little man Robert and his family. I pray he is found safe. I always have hope.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 09:46:54 PM
There is so much desolate open spaces on either side of Boise, and not a long drive to get away from town. To the north is mountainous, but to the west, east and south you can go many miles with nothing and nobody in sight. It is encouraging in one way for the LE to be saying their searches are focused and only LE are doing them. It is upsetting also, that they have evidence that Robert was hurt or worse.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 09:51:54 PM
Did I miss coverage of Robert's case on AMW? I have been watching, I thought.   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 09:56:21 PM
There is a report about Robert on AMW website.

http://www.amw.com/missing_children/case.cfm?id=67176


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 01, 2009, 09:57:50 PM
"We are not ready to say that Robert was abducted we don't not have any indication that Robert was abducted", Kerns said early Monday.

sorry forgot to quote it but...that is quite the statement....


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on August 01, 2009, 09:58:14 PM
Please say a prayer and light a candle for Robert, that he will be found.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m
Thanks Muffy, I lit two, I hope that is okay. JSM

That's so sweet of you JSM.  I think little Robert needs all the prayers and candles lit we can muster.  Bless him. 
His case really breaks my heart. He should have never been allowed with that "mother"  ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyWaa::

Me too. He never should have been allowed unsupervised visitation with his mother. I don't know what the court was thinking.

I can't imagine the pain little guy's dad must be in. You can tell by the photos that Robert's family is in hurting so much and they know.

::MonkeyWaa::


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m

I am praying for little man Robert and his family. I pray he is found safe. I always have hope.


I am praying for his dad and family. My friend is going to court to get custody on Monday of a nephew. Sad thing CPS is so wanting the "family" to have visitations. My friend is totally against unsupervised visitation and she told me she will fight the judge if he allows it. Sad thing is, if a family member gets custody, the state wants to give the kids back to the parents even if the parents are drug freaks.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 09:58:58 PM
http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html?video=YHI&t=a


Boise man's home searched in Manwill disappearance
Story Updated: Aug 1, 2009 at 6:50 PM MDT
By Jen Wahl


BOISE - Friday evening and Saturday morning, authorities looking for 8-year-old Robert Manwill focused their efforts on Evan Wallis' Boise home and blue Suburban.

"I was devastated that my truck was being considered part of this case with Robert," Wallis said.

The Homeowner, Wallis, says he has three boys of his own and is an innocent bystander in the investigation.

Wallis says he welcomed authorities to his backyard to search for anything that may lead them to the little boy.

"I have complete cooperation with them because it is a little boy that needs to be found," he said.

Wallis says police searched his home after bloodhounds picked up a scent on his Suburban. He says his truck was stolen on July 22, just two days before Robert disappeared. Then it turned back up on Monday and Wallis notified the Ada County Sheriff's Office.

"And that's what lead them to come back here and get a warrant to come dig up our backyard," Wallis said. "I told them go ahead just as long as you just leave things the way they were when you're done."

At a news conference earlier this afternoon, Boise Deputy Chief Jim Kerns says he couldn't tell CBS 2 anything about the search on Wallis' property, and they're looking into more than 300 tips.

"At this point the investigation to find Robert is an hour by hour effort," Kerns said. "The lead detectives are constantly evaluating evidence and focusing resources."

Wallis says the only thing investigators were going to find in his home were freshly dug dirt from grass he was planting and a few tree stumps.

Although he says he knows the Ehrlick family very well, he wasn't very close to Melissa Jenkin's or her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick.

Wallis says he hopes the investigation helps lead police to 8-year-old Robert Manwill and is glad he was able to help.

http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html

Frankinputer won't let me see this video. Someone watching it and give us your impression on this dude, please. TIA

His answers to this interview and his last one...he just seems like he is covering. jmo


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on August 01, 2009, 09:59:49 PM
There is a report about Robert on AMW website.

http://www.amw.com/missing_children/case.cfm?id=67176
One sentence and maybe a picture.

"Robert Manwill went missing from his mother's apartment, please call if you have seen him".

That's all I know.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 10:01:28 PM
"We are not ready to say that Robert was abducted we don't not have any indication that Robert was abducted", Kerns said early Monday.

sorry forgot to quote it but...that is quite the statement....

They said they same thing when Lindsey Baum went missing. Almost word for word.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 01, 2009, 10:03:25 PM
Quote
Police told us there is no evidence of an abduction and family members continue to fly in from across the country for support.
...i really don't know what to think..are they saying that he is dead or he ran off on his own??


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 01, 2009, 10:10:31 PM
http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html?video=YHI&t=a


Boise man's home searched in Manwill disappearance
Story Updated: Aug 1, 2009 at 6:50 PM MDT
By Jen Wahl


BOISE - Friday evening and Saturday morning, authorities looking for 8-year-old Robert Manwill focused their efforts on Evan Wallis' Boise home and blue Suburban.

"I was devastated that my truck was being considered part of this case with Robert," Wallis said.

The Homeowner, Wallis, says he has three boys of his own and is an innocent bystander in the investigation.

Wallis says he welcomed authorities to his backyard to search for anything that may lead them to the little boy.

"I have complete cooperation with them because it is a little boy that needs to be found," he said.

Wallis says police searched his home after bloodhounds picked up a scent on his Suburban. He says his truck was stolen on July 22, just two days before Robert disappeared. Then it turned back up on Monday and Wallis notified the Ada County Sheriff's Office.

"And that's what lead them to come back here and get a warrant to come dig up our backyard," Wallis said. "I told them go ahead just as long as you just leave things the way they were when you're done."

At a news conference earlier this afternoon, Boise Deputy Chief Jim Kerns says he couldn't tell CBS 2 anything about the search on Wallis' property, and they're looking into more than 300 tips.

"At this point the investigation to find Robert is an hour by hour effort," Kerns said. "The lead detectives are constantly evaluating evidence and focusing resources."

Wallis says the only thing investigators were going to find in his home were freshly dug dirt from grass he was planting and a few tree stumps.

Although he says he knows the Ehrlick family very well, he wasn't very close to Melissa Jenkin's or her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick.

Wallis says he hopes the investigation helps lead police to 8-year-old Robert Manwill and is glad he was able to help.

http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html

Frankinputer won't let me see this video. Someone watching it and give us your impression on this dude, please. TIA

His answers to this interview and his last one...he just seems like he is covering. jmo

nervous...probably has an addiction problem and nervous.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on August 01, 2009, 10:11:54 PM
"We are not ready to say that Robert was abducted we don't not have any indication that Robert was abducted", Kerns said early Monday.

sorry forgot to quote it but...that is quite the statement....

They said they same thing when Lindsey Baum went missing. Almost word for word.
I remember that Pink. I know that when there were two girls killed here, they did the same thing looking for the dad. Then once they did the story on the girls, it was a total farce. I have not been a fan of AMW since.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 10:12:09 PM
http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html?video=YHI&t=a


Boise man's home searched in Manwill disappearance
Story Updated: Aug 1, 2009 at 6:50 PM MDT
By Jen Wahl


BOISE - Friday evening and Saturday morning, authorities looking for 8-year-old Robert Manwill focused their efforts on Evan Wallis' Boise home and blue Suburban.

"I was devastated that my truck was being considered part of this case with Robert," Wallis said.

The Homeowner, Wallis, says he has three boys of his own and is an innocent bystander in the investigation.

Wallis says he welcomed authorities to his backyard to search for anything that may lead them to the little boy.

"I have complete cooperation with them because it is a little boy that needs to be found," he said.

Wallis says police searched his home after bloodhounds picked up a scent on his Suburban. He says his truck was stolen on July 22, just two days before Robert disappeared. Then it turned back up on Monday and Wallis notified the Ada County Sheriff's Office.

"And that's what lead them to come back here and get a warrant to come dig up our backyard," Wallis said. "I told them go ahead just as long as you just leave things the way they were when you're done."

At a news conference earlier this afternoon, Boise Deputy Chief Jim Kerns says he couldn't tell CBS 2 anything about the search on Wallis' property, and they're looking into more than 300 tips.

"At this point the investigation to find Robert is an hour by hour effort," Kerns said. "The lead detectives are constantly evaluating evidence and focusing resources."

Wallis says the only thing investigators were going to find in his home were freshly dug dirt from grass he was planting and a few tree stumps.

Although he says he knows the Ehrlick family very well, he wasn't very close to Melissa Jenkin's or her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick.

Wallis says he hopes the investigation helps lead police to 8-year-old Robert Manwill and is glad he was able to help.

http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html

Frankinputer won't let me see this video. Someone watching it and give us your impression on this dude, please. TIA

His answers to this interview and his last one...he just seems like he is covering. jmo


Pink, I couldn't see a video either. I don't think it's your computer. Earlier today I heard that Wallis said that he knew Daniel's brother, I believe it was Mark, better than her knew Daniel and Melissa. IIRC


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 10:14:15 PM
Quote
Police told us there is no evidence of an abduction and family members continue to fly in from across the country for support.
...i really don't know what to think..are they saying that he is dead or he ran off on his own??

He didn't run off on his own, MamaCrazy. Neither did Lindsay. JMO.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 01, 2009, 10:14:15 PM
"We are not ready to say that Robert was abducted we don't not have any indication that Robert was abducted", Kerns said early Monday.

sorry forgot to quote it but...that is quite the statement....

They said they same thing when Lindsey Baum went missing. Almost word for word.
crazy that you said that...but the whole community vibe is different...thats how i would hope my town would respond if my kid went missing..and really, mom and step-dad don't have the best record with kids..but still, the entire town is looking..and in Lindsey's case, the community seems like they don't care so much...only a few ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 10:14:54 PM
Please say a prayer and light a candle for Robert, that he will be found.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m
Thanks Muffy, I lit two, I hope that is okay. JSM

That's so sweet of you JSM.  I think little Robert needs all the prayers and candles lit we can muster.  Bless him. 
His case really breaks my heart. He should have never been allowed with that "mother"  ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyWaa::

Me too. He never should have been allowed unsupervised visitation with his mother. I don't know what the court was thinking.

I can't imagine the pain little guy's dad must be in. You can tell by the photos that Robert's family is in hurting so much and they know.

::MonkeyWaa::


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m

I am praying for little man Robert and his family. I pray he is found safe. I always have hope.




Look at little man's big brother Ken and little man's family.
My heart breaks for them.

The last picture is Mom's side of the family. Grandparents, Aunt Trish and I believe Trish's hubby.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on August 01, 2009, 10:20:05 PM
http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html?video=YHI&t=a


Boise man's home searched in Manwill disappearance
Story Updated: Aug 1, 2009 at 6:50 PM MDT
By Jen Wahl


BOISE - Friday evening and Saturday morning, authorities looking for 8-year-old Robert Manwill focused their efforts on Evan Wallis' Boise home and blue Suburban.

"I was devastated that my truck was being considered part of this case with Robert," Wallis said.

The Homeowner, Wallis, says he has three boys of his own and is an innocent bystander in the investigation.

Wallis says he welcomed authorities to his backyard to search for anything that may lead them to the little boy.

"I have complete cooperation with them because it is a little boy that needs to be found," he said.

Wallis says police searched his home after bloodhounds picked up a scent on his Suburban. He says his truck was stolen on July 22, just two days before Robert disappeared. Then it turned back up on Monday and Wallis notified the Ada County Sheriff's Office.

"And that's what lead them to come back here and get a warrant to come dig up our backyard," Wallis said. "I told them go ahead just as long as you just leave things the way they were when you're done."

At a news conference earlier this afternoon, Boise Deputy Chief Jim Kerns says he couldn't tell CBS 2 anything about the search on Wallis' property, and they're looking into more than 300 tips.

"At this point the investigation to find Robert is an hour by hour effort," Kerns said. "The lead detectives are constantly evaluating evidence and focusing resources."

Wallis says the only thing investigators were going to find in his home were freshly dug dirt from grass he was planting and a few tree stumps.

Although he says he knows the Ehrlick family very well, he wasn't very close to Melissa Jenkin's or her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick.

Wallis says he hopes the investigation helps lead police to 8-year-old Robert Manwill and is glad he was able to help.

http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html

Frankinputer won't let me see this video. Someone watching it and give us your impression on this dude, please. TIA

His answers to this interview and his last one...he just seems like he is covering. jmo

Pink, don't know what to think about this guy. Just saw the video. I think he was probably nervous, but the story about the suburban being "stolen" and digging for grass has my hinky meter up. I'm not sure he had anything to do with it, but he may be covering up for someone. JMO JSM


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
"We are not ready to say that Robert was abducted we don't not have any indication that Robert was abducted", Kerns said early Monday.

sorry forgot to quote it but...that is quite the statement....

They said they same thing when Lindsey Baum went missing. Almost word for word.
I remember that Pink. I know that when there were two girls killed here, they did the same thing looking for the dad. Then once they did the story on the girls, it was a total farce. I have not been a fan of AMW since.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

The mom led those girls to their slaughter. JMO

I said on Lindsay's thread before Robert went missing that there were people in Idaho that live in that area, mostly in the northern regions, to live and let live, and are very private and close. Probably why you don't see addy's on their houses. Lots of people move to the northwest for just that reason.

But the people in Boise are not afraid of coming forward with what they know and are trying to help. It seems there is a different dynamic in McCleary though. People are not coming forward for another reason.  JMO


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 10:24:37 PM
Pink, don't know what to think about this guy. Just saw the video. I think he was probably nervous, but the story about the suburban being "stolen" and digging for grass has my hinky meter up. I'm not sure he had anything to do with it, but he may be covering up for someone. JMO JSM

The big thing that stuck out to me is that the bloodhound hit on the Suburban. I wonder if the LE impounded that vehicle?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on August 01, 2009, 10:24:54 PM
"We are not ready to say that Robert was abducted we don't not have any indication that Robert was abducted", Kerns said early Monday.

sorry forgot to quote it but...that is quite the statement....

They said they same thing when Lindsey Baum went missing. Almost word for word.
I remember that Pink. I know that when there were two girls killed here, they did the same thing looking for the dad. Then once they did the story on the girls, it was a total farce. I have not been a fan of AMW since.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

The mom led those girls to their slaughter. JMO

I said on Lindsay's thread before Robert went missing that there were people in Idaho that live in that area, mostly in the northern regions, to live and let live, and are very private and close. Probably why you don't see addy's on their houses. Lots of people move to the northwest for just that reason.

But the people in Boise are not afraid of coming forward with what they know and are trying to help. It seems there is a different dynamic in McCleary though. People are not coming forward for another reason.  JMO
ITA Tissie led those girls to slaughter.

I don't know about the Northwest, but I am truly glad all those people are out there looking for that little boy.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on August 01, 2009, 10:27:15 PM
God Bless Robert and his family that truly loves him. Those pictures that Pink posted made me so sad.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 10:30:37 PM
you are right mama.

I don't have a bad word to say about Boise PD or how they are handling this case. They are keeping it tight lipped and keeping the focus on finding Robert. The community has been amazing despite the bad stuff about the mom and the boyfriend coming out.

I noticed a lot of negative comments about the PD in the Idaho section, saying stuff like, why isn't mom and the BF in jail already, why didn't they search the mom's apartment on day one, why are not the PD doing a lie detector test on the mom etc.....

They probably had a gut feeling right away but you can't arrest on feeling and you can't search on feeling, you have to investigate all leads and see where the investigation takes you. It takes probable cause to get a search warrant, especially if you want to forensically search and have that evidence hold up in court. They could have even done lie detectors. They are under no obligation to share that information with the public.

People are spoiled by the CSI and the Law in Order shows, where everything is tidy, wrapped in package with an arrest in 60 minutes and it just doesn't happen that way.

If they arrest them, without finding Robert, odds are unless stumbles across him, he won't be found. Once they are arrested, they lawyer up and quit talking.

If they are out, they can be watched...listened to with phone taps, etc. Hoping they slip up and make a mistake that will lead PD to Robert.

I am okay with not knowing what PD knows or doesn't know. I just want Robert found. I pray he is found safe. Either way though, he needs to be brought home.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 10:30:57 PM
I am pretty sure that Aunt Trish is Melissa's sister. I wish I could find it where I read that. I hate to say things that I can't back up with a link.

O/T we have a new toy.  ::MonkeyCheer2::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 10:33:56 PM
can arrest = can't arrest.

I hate not being able to edit. LOL


Thank you Fanny and JSM.

My hinky meter is up on him. I think he is covering. That article from yesterday he made some odd statements too.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 10:42:11 PM
I am pretty sure that Aunt Trish is Melissa's sister. I wish I could find it where I read that. I hate to say things that I can't back up with a link.

O/T we have a new toy.  ::MonkeyCheer2::

I think she is Melissa's sister too.

Watching the video from the news conference today...she made a statement like..."all the members of Robert's family, whether you see them or not are very close and are doing everything they can to bring Robert home."

When she said that Robert's family, especially his dad and Afton looked especially uncomfortable. Which furthers my belief that she is Melissa's sister.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 10:43:12 PM
can arrest = can't arrest.

I hate not being able to edit. LOL


Thank you Fanny and JSM.

My hinky meter is up on him. I think he is covering. That article from yesterday he made some odd statements too.

You are right about not being able to arrest the mom and boyfriend. Didn't we hear at first that the mom was "at work" and the BF was watching Robert. Was it ever verified that she has a job?

But I would be willing to bet the LE is on them like white on rice, and are monitoring their every move and word they speak.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 01, 2009, 10:46:41 PM
I am pretty sure that Aunt Trish is Melissa's sister. I wish I could find it where I read that. I hate to say things that I can't back up with a link.

O/T we have a new toy.  ::MonkeyCheer2::
ot ::MonkeyFootball:: ::MonkeySlide:: ::MonkeyCheer2::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 01, 2009, 10:50:49 PM
http://videos.idahostatesman.com/vmix_hosted_apps/p/media?id=5306307&item_in%20dex=1&all=1&sort=NULL  (http://videos.idahostatesman.com/vmix_hosted_apps/p/media?id=5306307&item_in%20dex=1&all=1&sort=NULL)

In the above presser for the 27th, I think the man standing with Melissa (frame starting at 1:00)
must be the stepdad. I am gonna go out on a limb here but my hinkymeter is flying high while watching his body movements!! He looks like he is "aggravated" or "miffed" to be there during the presser almost like he has better things to be doing. Melissa does look somewhat distraught.
 I think when it is all said and done Melissa and "stepdad" are going to be the ones responsible for this child's disappearance.  JMO-Already, she didn't have custody of Robert and then she is arrested for injuring her other baby-I see a pattern!!! There had to be a really good reason why she did not have full custody of Robert.

I hope I am wrong, but  I think this stinks to high heaven and CPS definitely did not do it's job regarding these two children.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: :smt013
'access to the media is forbidden buhahahah..sorry it was the forbidden thing ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 10:53:53 PM
That's what was reported, Fanny. I imagine that they got the information from LE the first night.

It has not been verified since.

The media tried to address it at a couple of news conferences, with regards to the timeline and all they would say is that the call came in as Robert being missing at 10:11 p.m.


 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa::
A makeshift memorial for Robert — consisting of several stuff animals, melted candles, and bible, green ribbons, and a few pictures and notes hoping for the 8-year-old boy's safe return — sprung up Friday on the sidewalk across from Melissa Jenkins' apartment. On Saturday afternoon, a few prayer candles were still lit.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 10:58:40 PM
That's what was reported, Fanny. I imagine that they got the information from LE the first night.

It has not been verified since.

The media tried to address it at a couple of news conferences, with regards to the timeline and all they would say is that the call came in as Robert being missing at 10:11 p.m.


 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyWaa::
A makeshift memorial for Robert — consisting of several stuff animals, melted candles, and bible, green ribbons, and a few pictures and notes hoping for the 8-year-old boy's safe return — sprung up Friday on the sidewalk across from Melissa Jenkins' apartment. On Saturday afternoon, a few prayer candles were still lit.



Oh my. That looks so familiar, doesn't it?  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 01, 2009, 11:04:14 PM
Quote
"The family has said that he likes to sneak around and crawl in little places. He's an inquisitive little kid," said police spokeswoman Lynn Hightower.

????really??? 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 01, 2009, 11:10:15 PM
Quote
"The family has said that he likes to sneak around and crawl in little places. He's an inquisitive little kid," said police spokeswoman Lynn Hightower.

????really??? 
so they are saying he is hiding??


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 11:12:21 PM
All too, Fanny.

Sandra, Jada, Nevaeh, Tori, just since the beginning of the year. Too many teddy bear filled memorials and too many tiny coffins.

When will this madness stop?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 01, 2009, 11:15:42 PM
Quote
"The family has said that he likes to sneak around and crawl in little places. He's an inquisitive little kid," said police spokeswoman Lynn Hightower.

????really??? 
so they are saying he is hiding??

In context, they were saying too make sure to look in garages, nooks and crannies, anywhere where an eight year might venture.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 01, 2009, 11:27:32 PM
Quote
"The family has said that he likes to sneak around and crawl in little places. He's an inquisitive little kid," said police spokeswoman Lynn Hightower.

????really??? 
so they are saying he is hiding??

In context, they were saying too make sure to look in garages, nooks and crannies, anywhere where an eight year might venture.

it just blew my mind to think the family was saying...oh,  he likes to hide..he's sneaky that way


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 01, 2009, 11:27:33 PM
Hi My Monkeys ..

Oh lord this poor child. I have not been logged into SM for a day or so - but I have been looking for any info online ..to find this little guy.

Looking at his Family and the history of his Mother and Father and those who were - GAG.

I may not be on SM but I am keeping up with Robert.

I have him in my thoughts and prayers -
I pray that someone opens their mouth and speaks and offers for once in their coward life - what really happened so that Robert can be at peace. Too many people within this precious childs life - have no clue what it is to love a child and or raise one. (( I may be wrong - but if MOM hurts a innocent child, gets slapped and walks away, has nothing to fear, another child will soon suffer - No one can keep her from hurting her other children ))

This is not a random missing child. This is within the family and I leave it at that.

My peace
 ::MonkeyAngel::
I pray for Baby Robert because he is just that at 8 yrs old - A child.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 11:28:10 PM
Quote
"The family has said that he likes to sneak around and crawl in little places. He's an inquisitive little kid," said police spokeswoman Lynn Hightower.

????really??? 
so they are saying he is hiding??

In context, they were saying too make sure to look in garages, nooks and crannies, anywhere where an eight year might venture.


A week ago, that made all the sense in the world. Today it is a different scenario entirely.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 01, 2009, 11:35:13 PM
Fanny

you know what truly broke me within Roberts missing case  - was that His Mother !! actually cracked the skull of Robert's sibling ( an infant)  ...was giving a slap and  probation ..

And now Robert is Missing

His Father - his first spouse KILLED their child by stabbing  - a 4 yr old child ??

Dear God  - My brain is reeling .. it is sick beyond. 

I think that LE knows who is who - they are just waiting for now - for forensic's yet cannot be sure - and yet need to find Robert at the same time.

its twisted beyond my brain this entire family - :(






Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 01, 2009, 11:42:07 PM
Leroy

I see you lurking - IF Roberts Mother is not involved .. Who else could it be.
I saw your postings on Otty Sanchez's cage. I find that Roberts Mother is not too far from what Otty did - She Roberts Mother has already cracked her infants skull. That would like taking his body and swinging him around till his head struck a permanent object.

Babies skulls are very soft and for a reason - so they can grow.

Who the hell does this S@it and actually walks away .. Um Roberts Mother  ::MonkeyEek::
Gasp.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 01, 2009, 11:57:21 PM
Leroy

I see you lurking - IF Roberts Mother is not involved .. Who else could it be.
I saw your postings on Otty Sanchez's cage. I find that Roberts Mother is not too far from what Otty did - She Roberts Mother has already cracked her infants skull. That would like taking his body and swinging him around till his head struck a permanent object.

Babies skulls are very soft and for a reason - so they can grow.

Who the hell does this S@it and actually walks away .. Um Roberts Mother  ::MonkeyEek::
Gasp.

After what the grandfather/father of the BF said today about how Robert was treated by his mother, I am really wondering. Since the BF was the last to see him, I am wondering if it was another case of him not being his kid, and he got exasperated. It is hard to figure who did what to Robert, but my gut is saying it is down to those two. One did it, the other helped cover it up. In any event, they both have Robert's blood on their hands. And child custody and the courts are not given any slack by me either.

It about broke my heart to hear the bf's father say he didn't feel like he could even ask Robert if he wanted to go fishing because of how Melissa was always on Robert. It seems like such a bleak little life.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 02, 2009, 12:06:52 AM
All within this Case is SAD
Nothing remotely positive points to Character, Quality, substance as Person - Roberts parents.
Irregardless of Robert himself. Both Parents are known within LE records - with Dad and his ex Homicide of a child...... gawd. Mom giving an infant/toddler a skull fracture .. I mean omg.

And that is all what it is .. Handwriting on the Wall - Disaster waiting to happen.

 :pale:


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 12:20:43 AM
All within this Case is SAD
Nothing remotely positive points to Character, Quality, substance as Person - Roberts parents.
Irregardless of Robert himself. Both Parents are known within LE records - with Dad and his ex Homicide of a child...... gawd. Mom giving an infant/toddler a skull fracture .. I mean omg.

And that is all what it is .. Handwriting on the Wall - Disaster waiting to happen.

 :pale:


I agree about Robert's mom lacking all of the above but not his dad.


His dad is married with a new wife, has an older son, a member of the National Guard.  Got custody of Robert in Jan. of 2008.

He was doing the best as he could, if you ask me.

I am sure visitations were court ordered. He probably didn't have a choice.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 02, 2009, 12:30:11 AM
All within this Case is SAD
Nothing remotely positive points to Character, Quality, substance as Person - Roberts parents.
Irregardless of Robert himself. Both Parents are known within LE records - with Dad and his ex Homicide of a child...... gawd. Mom giving an infant/toddler a skull fracture .. I mean omg.

And that is all what it is .. Handwriting on the Wall - Disaster waiting to happen.

 :pale:


I agree about Robert's mom lacking all of the above but not his dad.


His dad is married with a new wife, has an older son, a member of the National Guard.  Got custody of Robert in Jan. of 2008.

He was doing the best as he could, if you ask me.

I am sure visitations were court ordered. He probably didn't have a choice.

I think they were court ordered too. I imagine he was terrified everytime he had to let Robert make that trip to Boise.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 02, 2009, 01:19:44 AM
http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html?video=YHI&t=a


Boise man's home searched in Manwill disappearance
Story Updated: Aug 1, 2009 at 6:50 PM MDT
By Jen Wahl


BOISE - Friday evening and Saturday morning, authorities looking for 8-year-old Robert Manwill focused their efforts on Evan Wallis' Boise home and blue Suburban.

"I was devastated that my truck was being considered part of this case with Robert," Wallis said.

The Homeowner, Wallis, says he has three boys of his own and is an innocent bystander in the investigation.

Wallis says he welcomed authorities to his backyard to search for anything that may lead them to the little boy.

"I have complete cooperation with them because it is a little boy that needs to be found," he said.

Wallis says police searched his home after bloodhounds picked up a scent on his Suburban. He says his truck was stolen on July 22, just two days before Robert disappeared. Then it turned back up on Monday and Wallis notified the Ada County Sheriff's Office.

"And that's what lead them to come back here and get a warrant to come dig up our backyard," Wallis said. "I told them go ahead just as long as you just leave things the way they were when you're done."

At a news conference earlier this afternoon, Boise Deputy Chief Jim Kerns says he couldn't tell CBS 2 anything about the search on Wallis' property, and they're looking into more than 300 tips.

"At this point the investigation to find Robert is an hour by hour effort," Kerns said. "The lead detectives are constantly evaluating evidence and focusing resources."

Wallis says the only thing investigators were going to find in his home were freshly dug dirt from grass he was planting and a few tree stumps.

Although he says he knows the Ehrlick family very well, he wasn't very close to Melissa Jenkin's or her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick.

Wallis says he hopes the investigation helps lead police to 8-year-old Robert Manwill and is glad he was able to help.

http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html

Frankinputer won't let me see this video. Someone watching it and give us your impression on this dude, please. TIA

His answers to this interview and his last one...he just seems like he is covering. jmo


Did anyone else notice this man started to say 'murder' and corrected himself?

 ::MonkeyEek::



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 02, 2009, 01:27:20 AM
http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html?video=YHI&t=a


Boise man's home searched in Manwill disappearance
Story Updated: Aug 1, 2009 at 6:50 PM MDT
By Jen Wahl


BOISE - Friday evening and Saturday morning, authorities looking for 8-year-old Robert Manwill focused their efforts on Evan Wallis' Boise home and blue Suburban.

"I was devastated that my truck was being considered part of this murder this case with Robert," Wallis said.

The Homeowner, Wallis, says he has three boys of his own and is an innocent bystander in the investigation.

Wallis says he welcomed authorities to his backyard to search for anything that may lead them to the little boy.

"I have complete cooperation with them because it is a little boy that needs to be found," he said.

Wallis says police searched his home after bloodhounds picked up a scent on his Suburban. He says his truck was stolen on July 22, just two days before Robert disappeared. Then it turned back up on Monday and Wallis notified the Ada County Sheriff's Office.

"And that's what lead them to come back here and get a warrant to come dig up our backyard," Wallis said. "I told them go ahead just as long as you just leave things the way they were when you're done."

At a news conference earlier this afternoon, Boise Deputy Chief Jim Kerns says he couldn't tell CBS 2 anything about the search on Wallis' property, and they're looking into more than 300 tips.

"At this point the investigation to find Robert is an hour by hour effort," Kerns said. "The lead detectives are constantly evaluating evidence and focusing resources."

Wallis says the only thing investigators were going to find in his home were freshly dug dirt from grass he was planting and a few tree stumps.

Although he says he knows the Ehrlick family very well, he wasn't very close to Melissa Jenkin's or her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick.

Wallis says he hopes the investigation helps lead police to 8-year-old Robert Manwill and is glad he was able to help.

http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html

Frankinputer won't let me see this video. Someone watching it and give us your impression on this dude, please. TIA

His answers to this interview and his last one...he just seems like he is covering. jmo


Did anyone else notice this man started to say 'murder' and corrected himself?

 ::MonkeyEek::



Listening again, he says the whole word, 'murder' before correcting himself. (-1:32 on tape, red type-mine)

 ::MonkeyShocked::



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 01:29:52 AM
Search For Robert Continues

Posted: Aug 1, 2009 11:14 PM

Updated: Aug 1, 2009 11:14 PM

A crime scene investigation van and trailer pulled away from the South Ada County home where police worked into Saturday morning digging through the backyard, looking for missing 8 year old Robert Manwill. Police won't say what led them to that particular home. 

"That location is one of many areas of interest that have been investigated as we try to find Robert," said Deputy Chief Jim Kerns of the Boise Police Department.

Other areas police have targeted over the last 3 days of the investigation include the Ada County landfill, and the apartment of Robert's mom and boyfriend. That is where Robert was last seen more than a week ago. Police also seized a car that belongs to Robert's family. So far none of those searches have led to the 8 year old being found. Police reaffirmed Saturday they fear Robert may be a victim of a tragic event, yet no arrest warrants have been issued. Right now police are following more than 300 tips, and feel they are getting closer to finding out what happened to Robert.   

"Leads are narrowing and becoming more specific," said Kerns.

Friday police received a boost from the community when more than 1,000 volunteers turned out to help find Robert. 

"Yesterdays volunteer search was a major step in helping us to confirm some directions, discount others and help investigators narrow their focus," Kerns claimed.

 As of Saturday, there are no more volunteer searches scheduled.
http://www.kivitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10832745


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 01:46:24 AM
::MonkeyNoNo::

It wouldn't surprise me Bearly. I have said from the beginning, he sets my hinky meter off.

I wish I could view the video. ;;crys::

I think it should be reported to the tipline just in case LE didn't see that interview or catch the slip.

TIPLINE:  570-6457
E-mail:  findrobert@cityofboise.org


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on August 02, 2009, 01:47:24 AM
http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html?video=YHI&t=a


Boise man's home searched in Manwill disappearance
Story Updated: Aug 1, 2009 at 6:50 PM MDT
By Jen Wahl


BOISE - Friday evening and Saturday morning, authorities looking for 8-year-old Robert Manwill focused their efforts on Evan Wallis' Boise home and blue Suburban.

"I was devastated that my truck was being considered part of this murder this case with Robert," Wallis said.

The Homeowner, Wallis, says he has three boys of his own and is an innocent bystander in the investigation.

Wallis says he welcomed authorities to his backyard to search for anything that may lead them to the little boy.

"I have complete cooperation with them because it is a little boy that needs to be found," he said.

Wallis says police searched his home after bloodhounds picked up a scent on his Suburban. He says his truck was stolen on July 22, just two days before Robert disappeared. Then it turned back up on Monday and Wallis notified the Ada County Sheriff's Office.

"And that's what lead them to come back here and get a warrant to come dig up our backyard," Wallis said. "I told them go ahead just as long as you just leave things the way they were when you're done."

At a news conference earlier this afternoon, Boise Deputy Chief Jim Kerns says he couldn't tell CBS 2 anything about the search on Wallis' property, and they're looking into more than 300 tips.

"At this point the investigation to find Robert is an hour by hour effort," Kerns said. "The lead detectives are constantly evaluating evidence and focusing resources."

Wallis says the only thing investigators were going to find in his home were freshly dug dirt from grass he was planting and a few tree stumps.

Although he says he knows the Ehrlick family very well, he wasn't very close to Melissa Jenkin's or her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick.

Wallis says he hopes the investigation helps lead police to 8-year-old Robert Manwill and is glad he was able to help.

http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html

Frankinputer won't let me see this video. Someone watching it and give us your impression on this dude, please. TIA

His answers to this interview and his last one...he just seems like he is covering. jmo


Did anyone else notice this man started to say 'murder' and corrected himself?

 ::MonkeyEek::



Listening again, he says the whole word, 'murder' before correcting himself. (-1:32 on tape, red type-mine)

 ::MonkeyShocked::



 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked:: Yes, he sure did say M U R D E R!

I am so sick of this happening to our most precious resources -our children- and so often parents are involved. It scares me to death for the future of our children's kids with SO'd and women/men who beat children getting a slap on the wrist.....what part of that is justice?????? ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 02, 2009, 01:57:24 AM
::MonkeyNoNo::

It wouldn't surprise me Bearly. I have said from the beginning, he sets my hinky meter off.

I wish I could view the video. ;;crys::

I think it should be reported to the tipline just in case LE didn't see that interview or catch the slip.

TIPLINE:  570-6457
E-mail:  findrobert@cityofboise.org

Area code is 208

Tipline: 208-570-6457



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 02, 2009, 01:59:33 AM
http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html?video=YHI&t=a


Boise man's home searched in Manwill disappearance
Story Updated: Aug 1, 2009 at 6:50 PM MDT
By Jen Wahl


BOISE - Friday evening and Saturday morning, authorities looking for 8-year-old Robert Manwill focused their efforts on Evan Wallis' Boise home and blue Suburban.

"I was devastated that my truck was being considered part of this murder this case with Robert," Wallis said.

The Homeowner, Wallis, says he has three boys of his own and is an innocent bystander in the investigation.

Wallis says he welcomed authorities to his backyard to search for anything that may lead them to the little boy.

"I have complete cooperation with them because it is a little boy that needs to be found," he said.

Wallis says police searched his home after bloodhounds picked up a scent on his Suburban. He says his truck was stolen on July 22, just two days before Robert disappeared. Then it turned back up on Monday and Wallis notified the Ada County Sheriff's Office.

"And that's what lead them to come back here and get a warrant to come dig up our backyard," Wallis said. "I told them go ahead just as long as you just leave things the way they were when you're done."

At a news conference earlier this afternoon, Boise Deputy Chief Jim Kerns says he couldn't tell CBS 2 anything about the search on Wallis' property, and they're looking into more than 300 tips.

"At this point the investigation to find Robert is an hour by hour effort," Kerns said. "The lead detectives are constantly evaluating evidence and focusing resources."

Wallis says the only thing investigators were going to find in his home were freshly dug dirt from grass he was planting and a few tree stumps.

Although he says he knows the Ehrlick family very well, he wasn't very close to Melissa Jenkin's or her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick.

Wallis says he hopes the investigation helps lead police to 8-year-old Robert Manwill and is glad he was able to help.

http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html

Frankinputer won't let me see this video. Someone watching it and give us your impression on this dude, please. TIA

His answers to this interview and his last one...he just seems like he is covering. jmo


Did anyone else notice this man started to say 'murder' and corrected himself?

 ::MonkeyEek::



Listening again, he says the whole word, 'murder' before correcting himself. (-1:32 on tape, red type-mine)

 ::MonkeyShocked::



 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked:: Yes, he sure did say M U R D E R!

I am so sick of this happening to our most precious resources -our children- and so often parents are involved. It scares me to death for the future of our children's kids with SO'd and women/men who beat children getting a slap on the wrist.....what part of that is justice?????? ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thanks, IM.  I can't believe they skipped over it in the narrative.  wth?

 ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 02, 2009, 02:05:56 AM
::MonkeyNoNo::

It wouldn't surprise me Bearly. I have said from the beginning, he sets my hinky meter off.

I wish I could view the video. ;;crys::

I think it should be reported to the tipline just in case LE didn't see that interview or catch the slip.

TIPLINE:  570-6457
E-mail:  findrobert@cityofboise.org

Done.

Website kept timing out when I went to post it there, too.

 ::MonkeyConfused::



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 02:06:21 AM
::MonkeyNoNo::

It wouldn't surprise me Bearly. I have said from the beginning, he sets my hinky meter off.

I wish I could view the video. ;;crys::

I think it should be reported to the tipline just in case LE didn't see that interview or catch the slip.

TIPLINE:  570-6457
E-mail:  findrobert@cityofboise.org

Area code is 208

Tipline: 208-570-6457



Are you going to email or call it in or you want me to?

I don't have a problem with doing it. I think it's worth a mention and it can't hurt.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 02:09:44 AM
::MonkeyNoNo::

It wouldn't surprise me Bearly. I have said from the beginning, he sets my hinky meter off.

I wish I could view the video. ;;crys::

I think it should be reported to the tipline just in case LE didn't see that interview or catch the slip.

TIPLINE:  570-6457
E-mail:  findrobert@cityofboise.org

Done.

Website kept timing out when I went to post it there, too.

 ::MonkeyConfused::



You posted it on the police website? I am confused. LOL


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 02, 2009, 02:09:50 AM
::MonkeyNoNo::

It wouldn't surprise me Bearly. I have said from the beginning, he sets my hinky meter off.

I wish I could view the video. ;;crys::

I think it should be reported to the tipline just in case LE didn't see that interview or catch the slip.

TIPLINE:  570-6457
E-mail:  findrobert@cityofboise.org

Area code is 208

Tipline: 208-570-6457



Are you going to email or call it in or you want me to?

I don't have a problem with doing it. I think it's worth a mention and it can't hurt.

The woman answering the phone was lovely.

She asked questions, asked exactly where it was on the website, and seemed knowledgeable about the case.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: islandmonkey on August 02, 2009, 02:10:00 AM
http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html?video=YHI&t=a


Boise man's home searched in Manwill disappearance
Story Updated: Aug 1, 2009 at 6:50 PM MDT
By Jen Wahl


BOISE - Friday evening and Saturday morning, authorities looking for 8-year-old Robert Manwill focused their efforts on Evan Wallis' Boise home and blue Suburban.

"I was devastated that my truck was being considered part of this murder this case with Robert," Wallis said.

The Homeowner, Wallis, says he has three boys of his own and is an innocent bystander in the investigation.

Wallis says he welcomed authorities to his backyard to search for anything that may lead them to the little boy.

"I have complete cooperation with them because it is a little boy that needs to be found," he said.

Wallis says police searched his home after bloodhounds picked up a scent on his Suburban. He says his truck was stolen on July 22, just two days before Robert disappeared. Then it turned back up on Monday and Wallis notified the Ada County Sheriff's Office.

"And that's what lead them to come back here and get a warrant to come dig up our backyard," Wallis said. "I told them go ahead just as long as you just leave things the way they were when you're done."

At a news conference earlier this afternoon, Boise Deputy Chief Jim Kerns says he couldn't tell CBS 2 anything about the search on Wallis' property, and they're looking into more than 300 tips.

"At this point the investigation to find Robert is an hour by hour effort," Kerns said. "The lead detectives are constantly evaluating evidence and focusing resources."

Wallis says the only thing investigators were going to find in his home were freshly dug dirt from grass he was planting and a few tree stumps.

Although he says he knows the Ehrlick family very well, he wasn't very close to Melissa Jenkin's or her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick.

Wallis says he hopes the investigation helps lead police to 8-year-old Robert Manwill and is glad he was able to help.

http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html

Frankinputer won't let me see this video. Someone watching it and give us your impression on this dude, please. TIA

His answers to this interview and his last one...he just seems like he is covering. jmo


Did anyone else notice this man started to say 'murder' and corrected himself?

 ::MonkeyEek::



Listening again, he says the whole word, 'murder' before correcting himself. (-1:32 on tape, red type-mine)

 ::MonkeyShocked::



 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked:: Yes, he sure did say M U R D E R!

I am so sick of this happening to our most precious resources -our children- and so often parents are involved. It scares me to death for the future of our children's kids with SO'd and women/men who beat children getting a slap on the wrist.....what part of that is justice?????? ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thanks, IM.  I can't believe they skipped over it in the narrative.  wth?

 ::MonkeyNoNo::



Me either~IMO that is an excited utterance ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 02, 2009, 02:12:06 AM
::MonkeyNoNo::

It wouldn't surprise me Bearly. I have said from the beginning, he sets my hinky meter off.

I wish I could view the video. ;;crys::

I think it should be reported to the tipline just in case LE didn't see that interview or catch the slip.

TIPLINE:  570-6457
E-mail:  findrobert@cityofboise.org

Done.

Website kept timing out when I went to post it there, too.

 ::MonkeyConfused::



You posted it on the police website? I am confused. LOL

No.  I tried to post it on the tv website where the article was, there was a place for comments.

http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html

It times out and won't let you post.  There are no comments there so far, that is probably why.





Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 02, 2009, 02:15:45 AM
http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html?video=YHI&t=a


Boise man's home searched in Manwill disappearance
Story Updated: Aug 1, 2009 at 6:50 PM MDT
By Jen Wahl


BOISE - Friday evening and Saturday morning, authorities looking for 8-year-old Robert Manwill focused their efforts on Evan Wallis' Boise home and blue Suburban.

"I was devastated that my truck was being considered part of this murder this case with Robert," Wallis said.

The Homeowner, Wallis, says he has three boys of his own and is an innocent bystander in the investigation.

Wallis says he welcomed authorities to his backyard to search for anything that may lead them to the little boy.

"I have complete cooperation with them because it is a little boy that needs to be found," he said.

Wallis says police searched his home after bloodhounds picked up a scent on his Suburban. He says his truck was stolen on July 22, just two days before Robert disappeared. Then it turned back up on Monday and Wallis notified the Ada County Sheriff's Office.

"And that's what lead them to come back here and get a warrant to come dig up our backyard," Wallis said. "I told them go ahead just as long as you just leave things the way they were when you're done."

At a news conference earlier this afternoon, Boise Deputy Chief Jim Kerns says he couldn't tell CBS 2 anything about the search on Wallis' property, and they're looking into more than 300 tips.

"At this point the investigation to find Robert is an hour by hour effort," Kerns said. "The lead detectives are constantly evaluating evidence and focusing resources."

Wallis says the only thing investigators were going to find in his home were freshly dug dirt from grass he was planting and a few tree stumps.

Although he says he knows the Ehrlick family very well, he wasn't very close to Melissa Jenkin's or her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick.

Wallis says he hopes the investigation helps lead police to 8-year-old Robert Manwill and is glad he was able to help.

http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html

Frankinputer won't let me see this video. Someone watching it and give us your impression on this dude, please. TIA

His answers to this interview and his last one...he just seems like he is covering. jmo


Did anyone else notice this man started to say 'murder' and corrected himself?

 ::MonkeyEek::



Listening again, he says the whole word, 'murder' before correcting himself. (-1:32 on tape, red type-mine)

 ::MonkeyShocked::



 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyShocked:: Yes, he sure did say M U R D E R!

I am so sick of this happening to our most precious resources -our children- and so often parents are involved. It scares me to death for the future of our children's kids with SO'd and women/men who beat children getting a slap on the wrist.....what part of that is justice?????? ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thanks, IM.  I can't believe they skipped over it in the narrative.  wth?

 ::MonkeyNoNo::



Me either~IMO that is an excited utterance ::MonkeyEek::

He said the whole flippin' word.

 :2ukli:

How irresponsible is that in reporting the news?

 ::MonkeyConfused::



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 02:15:57 AM
::MonkeyNoNo::

It wouldn't surprise me Bearly. I have said from the beginning, he sets my hinky meter off.

I wish I could view the video. ;;crys::

I think it should be reported to the tipline just in case LE didn't see that interview or catch the slip.

TIPLINE:  570-6457
E-mail:  findrobert@cityofboise.org

Area code is 208

Tipline: 208-570-6457



Are you going to email or call it in or you want me to?

I don't have a problem with doing it. I think it's worth a mention and it can't hurt.

The woman answering the phone was lovely.

She asked questions, asked exactly where it was on the website, and seemed knowledgeable about the case.



Thank you so much, hon. I wish my Frankinputer would let me see that video. It's moody. Some it lets me see, some they won't load at all or crash the browser.

Mr. Wallis knows something. I'd bet ten of Casey's jailhouse twinkies on it.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 02, 2009, 02:21:30 AM
::MonkeyNoNo::

It wouldn't surprise me Bearly. I have said from the beginning, he sets my hinky meter off.

I wish I could view the video. ;;crys::

I think it should be reported to the tipline just in case LE didn't see that interview or catch the slip.

TIPLINE:  570-6457
E-mail:  findrobert@cityofboise.org

Done.

Website kept timing out when I went to post it there, too.

 ::MonkeyConfused::



You posted it on the police website? I am confused. LOL

No.  I tried to post it on the tv website where the article was, there was a place for comments.

http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html

It times out and won't let you post.  There are no comments there so far, that is probably why.





Okay now.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 02, 2009, 02:22:55 AM
::MonkeyNoNo::

It wouldn't surprise me Bearly. I have said from the beginning, he sets my hinky meter off.

I wish I could view the video. ;;crys::

I think it should be reported to the tipline just in case LE didn't see that interview or catch the slip.

TIPLINE:  570-6457
E-mail:  findrobert@cityofboise.org

Area code is 208

Tipline: 208-570-6457



Are you going to email or call it in or you want me to?

I don't have a problem with doing it. I think it's worth a mention and it can't hurt.

The woman answering the phone was lovely.

She asked questions, asked exactly where it was on the website, and seemed knowledgeable about the case.



Thank you so much, hon. I wish my Frankinputer would let me see that video. It's moody. Some it lets me see, some they won't load at all or crash the browser.

Mr. Wallis knows something. I'd bet ten of Casey's jailhouse twinkies on it.

I was trying to figure out a way to upload it and get it to you, but I can't.

Did you update your Realplayer?



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 02:24:10 AM


No.  I tried to post it on the tv website where the article was, there was a place for comments.

http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html

It times out and won't let you post.  There are no comments there so far, that is probably why.





LOL, k now I understand.

I thought I was drinking again. ;)

The reporter must have been drinking if he clearly said the word and then changed it and they didn't report that verbatim. They may kick themselves later if it turns out to be "something".


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 02:31:27 AM
Bearly it is flash that's the problem.

Youtubes crash and cause errors. Some older flash will work though.

My computer is old and runs on Windows ME. Some of the "newer" flash requires an upgrade. The upgrades don't work with ME.

It's a lose, lose.

I've been trying to save for a new one for over a year, something always comes up though and wipes out whatever i get saved up. brakes for the car, trip to the emergency room, etc.

Thanks though.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 02, 2009, 02:36:29 AM
Bearly it is flash that's the problem.

Youtubes crash and cause errors. Some older flash will work though.

My computer is old and runs on Windows ME. Some of the "newer" flash requires an upgrade. The upgrades don't work with ME.

It's a lose, lose.

I've been trying to save for a new one for over a year, something always comes up though and wipes out whatever i get saved up. brakes for the car, trip to the emergency room, etc.

Thanks though.

I can relate to something always coming up.

 ::MonkeyRoll::



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 02:40:10 AM
In the great green room
there was a telephone
And a red balloon
And a picture of--

The cow jumping over the moon

and there were three little bears, sitting on chairs

and two little kittens and a pair of mittens

and a little toy house and a young mouse

and a comb and a brush and bowl full of mush

and a quiet old lady who was whispering "hush"

Goodnight room

goodnight moon

goodnight cow jumping over the moon

goodnight light and the red balloon

goodnight bears goodnight chairs

goodnight kittens goodnight mittens

goodnight clocks and goodnight socks

goodnight little house and goodnight mouse

goodnight comb and goodnight brush

goodnight nobody goodnight mush

and goodnight to the old lady whispering "hush"

goodnight stars, goodnight air

goodnight noises everywhere


Goodnight little man Robert. I am keeping you and your family in my prayers tonight. May god guide you home soon.

Goodnight Bearly and islandmonkey and all my monkey friends.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 02, 2009, 04:25:20 AM
In the great green room
there was a telephone
And a red balloon
And a picture of--

The cow jumping over the moon

and there were three little bears, sitting on chairs

and two little kittens and a pair of mittens

and a little toy house and a young mouse

and a comb and a brush and bowl full of mush

and a quiet old lady who was whispering "hush"

Goodnight room

goodnight moon

goodnight cow jumping over the moon

goodnight light and the red balloon

goodnight bears goodnight chairs

goodnight kittens goodnight mittens

goodnight clocks and goodnight socks

goodnight little house and goodnight mouse

goodnight comb and goodnight brush

goodnight nobody goodnight mush

and goodnight to the old lady whispering "hush"

goodnight stars, goodnight air

goodnight noises everywhere


Goodnight little man Robert. I am keeping you and your family in my prayers tonight. May god guide you home soon.

Goodnight Bearly and islandmonkey and all my monkey friends.

Nite Pink
Thanks for the link.

 ::MonkeyWink::



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 02, 2009, 10:31:20 AM
Leroy

I see you lurking - IF Roberts Mother is not involved .. Who else could it be.
I saw your postings on Otty Sanchez's cage. I find that Roberts Mother is not too far from what Otty did - She Roberts Mother has already cracked her infants skull. That would like taking his body and swinging him around till his head struck a permanent object.

Babies skulls are very soft and for a reason - so they can grow.

Who the hell does this S@it and actually walks away .. Um Roberts Mother  ::MonkeyEek::
Gasp.

Hi Deenie - sorry I didn't respond sooner...i was logged in but not at my computer.

I strongly believe that mom and b/f are involved in Robert's disappearance.  From the grandpas comments I think mom abused Robert on a regular basis.  Not to mention the charge for fracturing the other childs skull.  This Wallis guy is also very suspicious however i think if he had anything to do with this it is just him covering for mom and b/f. 

Dad seems like a decent guy and I would bet that if he had a choice in the matter, mom would have never been able to see Robert again.

Otty Sanchez is one sick individual!!  The difference between these two women is that Otty didn't have a history of abusing children as does Melissa.  If something tragic did happen to Robert and his mom has anything to do with it, the Judge that gave her a sentence, that a kid whole stole a pack of gum would get, has blood on their hands too!

All this is JMO.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 02, 2009, 10:36:55 AM
Here is a good re-cap of "who's who"

ROBERT MANWILL'S FAMILY AND THEIR FRIENDS

Robert Manwill: The 8-year-old boy who has been missing since July 24.

Melissa Scott Jenkins: Robert's mother.

Charles Manwill: Robert's father, who has been divorced from Jenkins since October 2002.

Daniel Ehrlick Jr.: Jenkins' boyfriend.

Daniel Ehrlick Sr.: The father of Ehrlick Jr. He said his son accused him of taking Robert.

David Ehrlick: Ehrlick Jr.'s younger brother.

Evan Wallis: David Ehrlick's friend whose backyard was being searched Friday night.

Trisha Burrill: Robert's aunt and a family spokeswoman.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/235/story/853337.html?storylink=omni_popular



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 02, 2009, 10:40:10 AM
Thanks for that Leroy, it is easy to get so mixed up with family members and friends, in these cases.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 02, 2009, 10:42:04 AM
Small town puts out big effort to find missing youth
New Plymouth residents join search

Sunday, August 2, 2009 12:36 AM PDT

New Plymouth—Joe Cook said he thought it was the right thing to do.

Carrie Aguas felt it was about hope and finding a lost boy.

Cook and Aguas were just two people out of a crowd of more than 60 New Plymouth residents that traveled to Boise Friday to help search for a missing 8-year-old boy.

The boy, Robert Manwill, disappeared July 24 from the area around his mother’s apartment in Boise.

Manwill is also a New Plymouth Elementary School student and residents of the small, southwest Idaho town came out in force Friday to find him.   
 
“I just thought it was the right thing to do. I thought it would be a good idea,” Cook, the New Plymouth mayor, said about the local effort to find Manwill.

The volunteers converged on the elementary school Friday, stepped onto a bus and traveled to Boise to assist in what has become one of the largest search efforts ever in the Gem State’s capital.

Aguas, the principal at New Plymouth Elementary School, said the New Plymouth group focused its search in and around Boise’s Ann Morrison Park.

Aguas said the mood was low-key but hopeful. 
 

“Everyone was very quiet. That was right after they (the Boise Police Department) announced they might be looking for evidence of a tragedy. I think everyone was hoping to find something to end it,” Aguas said.

Cook said it was crucial the New Plymouth community made a statement about the fate of Manwill.

“Community support is important right now for this little boy,” Cook said.

He said the outpouring of concern for Manwill symbolizes the kind of residents that live in the Treasure Valley. 
 

“That’s the whole point. People do care. There are people that are involved and care but don’t know the family or the boy,” Cook said.

Aguas also said the torrent of assistance from the community in the effort to find Manwill was impressive.

“Parents brought water and snacks and loaded them on the bus,” she said. “I thought it was awesome that Joe Cook came over to help search.”

Manwill is something of a success story at New Plymouth Elementary School, Aguas said.

“Everyone felt like he was making it. He is a little guy we worked to bring up his self-confidence. I felt that his time at school had been good. He is on his way to be a strong student,” Aguas said.

Aguas said she did not want to speculate on Manwill’s fate but instead held out hope the young man would be found. Aguas said Manwill was full of potential.

“He is a bright little kid. He just needed some extra time, and he was willing to work hard,” she said.


http://www.argusobserver.com/articles/2009/08/02/news/doc4a7538ff0920a221343535.txt


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 02, 2009, 10:43:21 AM
Thanks for that Leroy, it is easy to get so mixed up with family members and friends, in these cases.

Your welcome NoRose.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 02, 2009, 10:47:42 AM
Manwill is something of a success story at New Plymouth Elementary School, Aguas said.

“Everyone felt like he was making it. He is a little guy we worked to bring up his self-confidence. I felt that his time at school had been good. He is on his way to be a strong student,” Aguas said.  (It makes you wonder what this child all had to put up with, before going to live with his father  ::MonkeyNoNo::)


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 02, 2009, 10:50:16 AM
Robert Manwill investigation: Details of mother's past emerge
Public records, interviews give some insight into Melissa Jenkins and Daniel Ehrlick Jr.

STATESMAN STAFF - Idaho Statesman
Copyright: © 2009 Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/02/09

The last two people looking after 8-year-old Robert Manwill before he disappeared were his mother, Melissa Scott Jenkins, 30, and her boyfriend, Daniel Edward Ehrlick Jr., 36.

Robert was reported missing at 10:11 p.m. Friday, July 24. He was visiting his mother from New Plymouth, where he lived with his father, Charles Manwill, 38, a staff sergeant in the Idaho Army National Guard. Charles Manwill took custody of Robert in January 2008 when Jenkins said she was having complications with a pregnancy.

Attempts to reach Jenkins and Ehrlick have been unsuccessful. On Saturday, they didn't answer a knock on their door, and Jenkins' cell phone was busy all day.

Here's what we've learned so far about Jenkins and Ehrlick:

JENKINS: 3 CHILDREN, NONE LIVE WITH HER

Jenkins has at least three children by three fathers. They are: Robert, 8, son of Charles Manwill; RayLynn Scott Ames, 2, daughter of Russell Ames; and Aidan James Ehrlick, 1, son of Daniel Ehrlick Jr. She was married to one of the men, Manwill. Two of the three children, Robert and RayLynn, live with their fathers.

Jenkins is on probation for fracturing the skull of the third child, Aidan. A tape recording of her sentencing describes what happened:

When Jenkins pleaded guilty to misdemeanor injury to a child on March 31, 2009, Judge Cathleen MacGregor Irby asked Jenkins what she did that "would make her guilty of that offense."

"I was burping my son and I accidentally hit his head on the table," Jenkins said.

Ada County prosecutor Fafa Alidjani gave Irby more details. When the parents brought Aidan to the hospital, "the child had swelling to the side of his head. É The side of the head kind of felt mushy and swollen, and the child was in distress. The X-ray revealed the child had about a 3- to 4-centimeter horizontal fracture to the side of his head," Alidjani said.

"Neither parent could provide a history as to what would cause that kind of injury to the child's head, ..." Alidjani said. Eventually, Jenkins told police she had been frustrated and tired because she was unable to take a nap, and while burping the child she flipped him over and hit his head.

A doctor who examined the baby determined a great deal of force was needed to cause a fracture of that magnitude, Alidjani said.

The injury to Aidan Ehrlick occurred at his father's parents' home, according to court testimony. Aidan was declared to be in imminent danger and placed in the custody of the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare in October 2008.

Jenkins was placed on two years of supervised probation, and she agreed to fully cooperate with Health and Welfare in working toward a reunification with Aidan, which included supervised visits, according to court records.

It is unclear if the toddler is still in state custody. Idaho Health and Welfare officials were not available for comment Friday.

Jenkins was married at least one other time.

She worked at the Idaho Statesman from October 2004 to May 2005. Stephanie Lindstrom, the classified call center manager at the Idaho Statesman, remembered her as Melissa Seiber. She and Frank Ross Seiber obtained a marriage license in May 2003 but divorced in March 2006.

Melissa Seiber worked as a general telemarketer, and she did her job well at first, Lindstrom said. Seiber expressed an interest in a higher-paying job as a retention specialist. Instead of working toward that position, Seiber started missing work and eventually just left, Lindstrom said.

Seeing Robert with his mother, Lindstrom said, "I just felt something wasn't right. (Robert was) filthy, rough. One time I saw him in the car, and he was not in his booster seat," she said.

Justin Winegar of Fruitland formerly worked with Stephanie in the call center.

"The thing that stuck in my mind, she was always really nice to me," Winegar said.

"She was always either smiling or sad or depressed. She was emotional," he said. "There was never any middle ground, it was either a high or low personality."

Bonnie Stogdill is an employee of the Boise Bingo Center, which previously was operated as Big Bucks Bingo. She knew Frank Seiber for a long time as the manager at Big Bucks before it closed down.

One day Frank Seiber came in with Melissa, who was pregnant. She started working there, eventually calling bingo numbers before she left when she and Frank divorced in 2006. Robert was a frequent guest at the parlor, but he had to be gone before bingo started, Stogdill said.

"He was a cute little kid," she said.

She doesn't know where Frank Seiber is now.

EHRLICK: A STAY-AT-HOME DAD

Little is known about Jenkins' boyfriend. Daniel Ehrlick Jr. is a stay-at-home dad, according to his brother, David. Daniel relies on their father, Daniel Ehrlick Sr., for financial support. "He bails 'em out," David Ehrlick said.

Daniel Ehrlick Jr. has been convicted of burglary, battery and possession of drug paraphernalia, and he is banned by the courts from being alone with Robert's half sister, RayLynn. Ehrlick was sentenced to four years in prison in July 1998 and released in March 2002.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/235/story/853332.html?storylink=omni_popular



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 02, 2009, 10:54:29 AM
Okay so I started to *bold* things in the above article but the whole thing is disturbing.

She was pregnant in January but had complications...is she still pregnant (hope not)?  Or did she lose that baby (hopefully)?

My final thought after reading that is poor poor Robert.   What a shame  ::MonkeyWaa:: 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 02, 2009, 11:00:27 AM
couple of other thoughts....

How can you be ordered to only have supervised visitation with only one of your children?  Just because she hurt the littlest one doesn't mean she couldn't/wouldn't hurt any of the other children.  Makes no sense.  If you proven to be an un-fit mother that should go across the board for all of your kids!

And then you have child living in a house with a guy that is banned by the courts to be alone with another child??!!  Again, this makes no sense and how can they *pick and choose* which children are possbily in danger of these freaks!! 

There was bound to be a tragedy in this family and I think Robert may have been just that   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 02, 2009, 11:04:30 AM
Okay so I started to *bold* things in the above article but the whole thing is disturbing.

She was pregnant in January but had complications...is she still pregnant (hope not)?  Or did she lose that baby (hopefully)?

My final thought after reading that is poor poor Robert.   What a shame  ::MonkeyWaa:: 

Responding to my own post to clarify that I dont normally wish it upon anyone to lose a child....even miscarriages are heart breaking.

I do however wish that parents like Melissa would never be allowed or able to have children.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 02, 2009, 11:10:25 AM
good morning ::MonkeyCheer2::
any new news on Robert?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 02, 2009, 11:18:20 AM
good morning ::MonkeyCheer2::
any new news on Robert?

Good morning Mamacrazy!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 12:20:47 PM
couple of other thoughts....

How can you be ordered to only have supervised visitation with only one of your children?  Just because she hurt the littlest one doesn't mean she couldn't/wouldn't hurt any of the other children.  Makes no sense.  If you proven to be an un-fit mother that should go across the board for all of your kids!

And then you have child living in a house with a guy that is banned by the courts to be alone with another child??!!  Again, this makes no sense and how can they *pick and choose* which children are possbily in danger of these freaks!! 

There was bound to be a tragedy in this family and I think Robert may have been just that   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

You would be surprised by the number of cases in which a child being abused by a parent is not enough to remove the other children from the home.

The system that's designed to protect children is failing that job horribly.

I am all for preserving the family but when it comes to letting children be put back into a situation (or not removing them from a situation) where they may continue to be at risk...it's usually at the expense of the children.

Our children are not lab rats that should be used in "social experiments" to see what happens.

I hope to god, that Melissa isn't pregnant.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 12:35:01 PM
I wonder what the actual timeline is. I really wonder when is the last time Robert's dad talked to him on the phone? When is the last time anyone other than Melissa and the BF saw Robert?

Is it possible that he was hurt or worse before Friday when he was reported "missing"?



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 02, 2009, 01:04:16 PM
I wonder what the actual timeline is. I really wonder when is the last time Robert's dad talked to him on the phone? When is the last time anyone other than Melissa and the BF saw Robert?

Is it possible that he was hurt or worse before Friday when he was reported "missing"?



I thought for sure I read that b/f's dad "grandpa" had stopped by that day to drop off money and he saw Robert....i've looked but cant find the article. 

I gotta go to have lunch with the *parental unit* right now so i'll check again when I get back.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 01:15:05 PM
I wonder what the actual timeline is. I really wonder when is the last time Robert's dad talked to him on the phone? When is the last time anyone other than Melissa and the BF saw Robert?

Is it possible that he was hurt or worse before Friday when he was reported "missing"?



I thought for sure I read that b/f's dad "grandpa" had stopped by that day to drop off money and he saw Robert....i've looked but cant find the article. 

I gotta go to have lunch with the *parental unit* right now so i'll check again when I get back.


Daniel Ehrlick Sr., a former Marine who served in Vietnam, said he thought he saw Robert on the day he was reported missing when he stopped by Ehrlick Jr.'s apartment to drop off money to help pay bills.

"(Ehrlick Jr.) told me that Robert was down in the back. When I came to the door, I don't know if it was then that I spotted it, or I spotted it before, but I spotted another boy that looked just like Robert with a white T-shirt on" Ehrlick Sr. said.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/v-print/story/852598.html


Thought he saw him....or a child that looked like him. Sounds like he wants to believe that he saw him. jmo

Where is "down in the back"?



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 01:15:42 PM
p.s. have a nice lunch with the parental unit.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 02, 2009, 01:34:40 PM
I'm beginning to think that Robert went missing day/days before the call to LE.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 01:39:59 PM
I wonder what the actual timeline is. I really wonder when is the last time Robert's dad talked to him on the phone? When is the last time anyone other than Melissa and the BF saw Robert?

Is it possible that he was hurt or worse before Friday when he was reported "missing"?


I'm beginning to think that Robert went missing day/days before the call to LE.

We are both on the same page then.



This quote brings tears to my eyes, it sounds like Robert was doing so well living with his dad, being away from his mom.
Quote
Manwill is something of a success story at New Plymouth Elementary School, Aguas said.

“Everyone felt like he was making it. He is a little guy we worked to bring up his self-confidence. I felt that his time at school had been good. He is on his way to be a strong student,” Aguas said.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 02, 2009, 01:52:07 PM
I am very upset with those statements from the school, poor little kid was really trying, and I don't even want to think about what all was going on before he moved in with his dad and started that new school.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 02, 2009, 02:31:52 PM
I wonder what the actual timeline is. I really wonder when is the last time Robert's dad talked to him on the phone? When is the last time anyone other than Melissa and the BF saw Robert?

Is it possible that he was hurt or worse before Friday when he was reported "missing"?



I thought for sure I read that b/f's dad "grandpa" had stopped by that day to drop off money and he saw Robert....i've looked but cant find the article. 

I gotta go to have lunch with the *parental unit* right now so i'll check again when I get back.


Daniel Ehrlick Sr., a former Marine who served in Vietnam, said he thought he saw Robert on the day he was reported missing when he stopped by Ehrlick Jr.'s apartment to drop off money to help pay bills.

"(Ehrlick Jr.) told me that Robert was down in the back. When I came to the door, I don't know if it was then that I spotted it, or I spotted it before, but I spotted another boy that looked just like Robert with a white T-shirt on" Ehrlick Sr. said.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/v-print/story/852598.html


Thought he saw him....or a child that looked like him. Sounds like he wants to believe that he saw him. jmo

Where is "down in the back"?



I have heard this term used when someone can't get around because of a back issue.

Either the grandfather/father of Daniel saw Robert or he didn't. You don't forget in that short of time. Would he not have spoken to the boy if he were present? I am beginning to believe, like some of you, that Robert was gone before Friday night. When was Robert brought to Boise from Plymouth, and who brought him? Does anyone know?  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Lovinlife on August 02, 2009, 02:36:15 PM
This case reminds me of Jada Justice.  JMO.  Lovin


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 02, 2009, 02:41:12 PM
I don't know when Robert was brought to Boise, I'm thinking the father of the boyfriend might have brought him, because he said he has in the past, but if he did this time I don't know. Also, was Robert spending the summer with his mom? I thought I read that.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 02, 2009, 02:41:39 PM
This case reminds me of Jada Justice.  JMO.  Lovin
It kind of does  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 02, 2009, 02:48:08 PM
This case reminds me of Jada Justice.  JMO.  Lovin

It reminds me of Nevaeh.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 02, 2009, 02:49:38 PM
I don't know when Robert was brought to Boise, I'm thinking the father of the boyfriend might have brought him, because he said he has in the past, but if he did this time I don't know. Also, was Robert spending the summer with his mom? I thought I read that.

OMG!! No telling what he has been going through for weeks, if he was there during the summer. Does anyone know when his father last spoke to him, or when anyone REALLY saw him last?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 02, 2009, 02:58:41 PM
I don't know when Robert was brought to Boise, I'm thinking the father of the boyfriend might have brought him, because he said he has in the past, but if he did this time I don't know. Also, was Robert spending the summer with his mom? I thought I read that.

OMG!! No telling what he has been going through for weeks, if he was there during the summer. Does anyone know when his father last spoke to him, or when anyone REALLY saw him last?
I don't know, but can you just imagine what else this child has been through living with this mom before dad got custody of him?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Lovinlife on August 02, 2009, 03:04:46 PM
This case reminds me of Jada Justice.  JMO.  Lovin

It reminds me of Nevaeh.  ::MonkeyWaa::
Her too, praying for a positive outcome.  I have nothing to add, was gone for a few days and come back to 20 pages to catch up on...I'm out of the loop but prayers are always good.  :smt049 :smt049 :smt049 :smt049  I am glad to see that Robert has had improvements since going to live with his dad and hope that is able to continue.  My son asks me all the time about why the kids in his class act out, don't turn in homework, etc.  I tell him that you never know what is going on at home...unfortunately not every child has a loving home life. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 03:09:39 PM
I was listening to KBOI and the reporter just attended the news briefing at noon. He said that there wasn't any new news really. The family stood, holding hands, some with tears in eyes at the briefing.

It should be online soon...the video.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 03:11:33 PM
Bloodhound dog being used in Manwill search

01:01 PM MDT on Sunday, August 2, 2009

BOISE - Sunday brings another day in the search for Robert Manwill, but still few new leads or answers.

Very few details came out of a noon news conference, but police did say the investigation continues to be an "hour by hour" search.

Boise Police Deputy Chief Jim Kerns stressed that members of the public should avoid buying into rumors - and instead stick to reliable media sources. He said the department is working to give the media updates in the case as they are available.

A bloodhound has been brought in from Indiana, courtesy of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. The dog has been used in the search, but police would not detail how the animal was used.

Manwill's aunt and family spokesperson Trish Burrill said she hoped families around the Valley would remember Robert as they sit down for family activities today.

Kerns gave additional detail about the Friday public search for Manwill. He said volunteers not only came from the Vista neighborhood and Boise as a whole, but also from Caldwell, Nampa, Mountain Home, Meridian, Kuna, Cascade and Horseshoe Bend.

The next news briefing is set for Tuesday afternoon at 2 p.m.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0209-manwill_sunday.9fa6c04a.html


So there is no news briefing tomorrow. ::shakes head::




Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 02, 2009, 03:14:40 PM
Thanks pink angel for the updates.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 03:20:25 PM
I don't know when Robert was brought to Boise, I'm thinking the father of the boyfriend might have brought him, because he said he has in the past, but if he did this time I don't know. Also, was Robert spending the summer with his mom? I thought I read that.

I read the summer and I read a visit. Summer visitation is often granted to the non-custodial parent though.

I also wonder who did the transfer. Did dad drop him off or did "grandpa" pick him up?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Lovinlife on August 02, 2009, 03:22:36 PM
I don't know when Robert was brought to Boise, I'm thinking the father of the boyfriend might have brought him, because he said he has in the past, but if he did this time I don't know. Also, was Robert spending the summer with his mom? I thought I read that.

I read the summer and I read a visit. Summer visitation is often granted to the non-custodial parent though.

I also wonder who did the transfer. Did dad drop him off or did "grandpa" pick him up?

Here in OH, non-custodial parents are granted 3weeks of summer visitation.  I would be surprised it this custody agreement was that liberal.  Ok, now I'm going back to page 12.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 03:25:39 PM
This case reminds me of Jada Justice.  JMO.  Lovin

It reminds me of Nevaeh.  ::MonkeyWaa::
This case reminds me of Jada Justice.  JMO.  Lovin

It reminds me of Nevaeh.  ::MonkeyWaa::

It reminds me of both of them. You can usually get a "feeling" for how the outcome is going to be after a day or two of news. Once details start coming out.

I had hope in both those cases. I prayed everyday but I knew deep down it would not be a happy outcome. I so wanted to be wrong.  Just like I want to be wrong here.

I want the litte man to be found safe and be returned to his daddy, his step-mom and his older brother. Never to be in the claws of his mother or BF again.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 02, 2009, 03:53:43 PM
Unless there is some other information I am not aware of, since the Suburban was stolen/borrowed two days before Robert went missing, I am thinking whatever happened to him happened before Friday. Wallis stated the bloodhound hit on the Suburban, and that is what peaked the LE attention. The fact that the grandfather said he "thought" he saw Robert on Friday, makes me wonder....I don't want to say what I wonder.

The fact that Daniel was "down in the back" makes me think that he had recently done some hard work, like digging, or picking up a nine year old boy, and worse. I don't like where my mind is going, but it is going there anyway.   ::MonkeyWaa::

I wish I could be optimistic about the outcome. I will continue to pray. I wish I could believe that some kind soul came along and took Robert out of this he77hole he was in, and gave him a good home, and he is well and happy. The fact of the matter is, something awful has happened to him. I just hope they find him soon, and whoever did this to him will be behind bars. It will not be a satisfactory outcome, but under the circumstances, I guess it is the most that I can hope for.  ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Lovinlife on August 02, 2009, 04:01:59 PM
Fanny ~ I agree 100%

Leroy ~ I left you a reply here: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=114.msg898089#msg898089


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 02, 2009, 04:03:17 PM
Okay so I started to *bold* things in the above article but the whole thing is disturbing.

She was pregnant in January but had complications...is she still pregnant (hope not)?  Or did she lose that baby (hopefully)?

My final thought after reading that is poor poor Robert.   What a shame  ::MonkeyWaa:: 

Responding to my own post to clarify that I dont normally wish it upon anyone to lose a child....even miscarriages are heart breaking.

I do however wish that parents like Melissa would never be allowed or able to have children.



Leroy I think this baby she was pregnant with in Jan 08 was probably Aiden, the little infant she abused in October of 08.  She was probably toward the end of the pregnancy in Jan when Robert's Dad got custody.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 04:10:34 PM
Unless there is some other information I am not aware of, since the Suburban was stolen/borrowed two days before Robert went missing, I am thinking whatever happened to him happened before Friday. Wallis stated the bloodhound hit on the Suburban, and that is what peaked the LE attention. The fact that the grandfather said he "thought" he saw Robert on Friday, makes me wonder....I don't want to say what I wonder.

The fact that Daniel was "down in the back" makes me think that he had recently done some hard work, like digging, or picking up a nine year old boy, and worse. I don't like where my mind is going, but it is going there anyway.   ::MonkeyWaa::

I wish I could be optimistic about the outcome. I will continue to pray. I wish I could believe that some kind soul came along and took Robert out of this he77hole he was in, and gave him a good home, and he is well and happy. The fact of the matter is, something awful has happened to him. I just hope they find him soon, and whoever did this to him will be behind bars. It will not be a satisfactory outcome, but under the circumstances, I guess it is the most that I can hope for.  ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyAngel::

I think it means down in the back of the apartments. Outside back behind the apartments. They live upstairs.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 02, 2009, 04:11:26 PM
Pink - thanks for finding that ariticle about what grandpa said....the use of the word "thought" is just not cutting it for me.  So yes, who besides mom and b/f last saw Robert??  Surely BPD would know this.

Gypsy - wow, i totally missed the 2008 date when I read that.  Thanks for clarifying it for me.

Lovin - you are the best....I did it on the first try....thanks again!!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 04:12:42 PM
http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/Police/Multimedia/DepartmentVideos/LatestManwillPresserV8.wmv

Watch the latest News Conference

Speakers:

   Deputy Chief Jim Kerns, Boise Police Department

   Family representative Trish Burrill

http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/Police/Multimedia/DepartmentVideos/BloodhoundDemoVNR.wmv

Watch a video demonstration of one of the specialized search K-9's being utilized. The dog in the video demonstration is Maddy, a bloodhound. Maddy and her handler, Mimi Perry were brought to Boise courtesy of Team Adam, the Missing Child Rapid Response Team, a program of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. Maddy and other search dogs have been valuable in aiding investigators as we continue to search for missing Robert Manwill.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 04:17:20 PM
Unless there is some other information I am not aware of, since the Suburban was stolen/borrowed two days before Robert went missing, I am thinking whatever happened to him happened before Friday. Wallis stated the bloodhound hit on the Suburban, and that is what peaked the LE attention. The fact that the grandfather said he "thought" he saw Robert on Friday, makes me wonder....I don't want to say what I wonder.

The fact that Daniel was "down in the back" makes me think that he had recently done some hard work, like digging, or picking up a nine year old boy, and worse. I don't like where my mind is going, but it is going there anyway.   ::MonkeyWaa::

I wish I could be optimistic about the outcome. I will continue to pray. I wish I could believe that some kind soul came along and took Robert out of this he77hole he was in, and gave him a good home, and he is well and happy. The fact of the matter is, something awful has happened to him. I just hope they find him soon, and whoever did this to him will be behind bars. It will not be a satisfactory outcome, but under the circumstances, I guess it is the most that I can hope for.  ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyAngel::

I think it means down in the back of the apartments. Outside back behind the apartments. They live upstairs.



(Ehrlick Jr.) told me that Robert was down in the back. When I came to the door, I don't know if it was then that I spotted it, or I spotted it before, but I spotted another boy that looked just like Robert with a white T-shirt on" Ehrlick Sr. said.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/v-print/story/852598.html

Daniel told "grandpa" that Robert was "down in the back".

He was at the apartment door and thought he saw Robert in a white shirt.

I read down in the back now as being downstairs back behind the apartments.

jmo


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 02, 2009, 04:17:42 PM
Unless there is some other information I am not aware of, since the Suburban was stolen/borrowed two days before Robert went missing, I am thinking whatever happened to him happened before Friday. Wallis stated the bloodhound hit on the Suburban, and that is what peaked the LE attention. The fact that the grandfather said he "thought" he saw Robert on Friday, makes me wonder....I don't want to say what I wonder.

The fact that Daniel was "down in the back" makes me think that he had recently done some hard work, like digging, or picking up a nine year old boy, and worse. I don't like where my mind is going, but it is going there anyway.   ::MonkeyWaa::

I wish I could be optimistic about the outcome. I will continue to pray. I wish I could believe that some kind soul came along and took Robert out of this he77hole he was in, and gave him a good home, and he is well and happy. The fact of the matter is, something awful has happened to him. I just hope they find him soon, and whoever did this to him will be behind bars. It will not be a satisfactory outcome, but under the circumstances, I guess it is the most that I can hope for.  ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Good afternoon sweet Monkey friends!

Fanny I thought maybe "down in the back"  was meaning that the little boy was playing out in back of the apartments.  The grandfather gave me the impression that his son said the boy was there, but since he glimpsed a child from a distance...he couldn't be sure it was Robert.  That's just how I took the meaning.

I also think the grandfather is carefully wording that so we know he saw a child at a distance that could have been Robert, but all he has to go on is his son's telling him Robert was there.  I think grandpa even thinks something may have happened earlier in the week.  I think maybe something happened to Robert by either the Mom or boyfriend, then they stole..err borrowed the friends car for a few days to depose of the body.  I think the friend has a suspicion they are the ones that used it
the car.  And the friend was out of town that weekend..if they knew that they may have planted evidence in that yard and neighborhood..since it is near the grandpa..who they have tried to say did it.

 I don't believe them..Grandpa seems like he would never have hurt this child.  I think they picked him because they are still smarting over Grandpa telling the courts these fools shouldn't have this boy at all.

That's just my opinion ..can't wait until they find this child  and make an arrest or two for his murder.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Lovinlife on August 02, 2009, 04:18:18 PM
Anyone interested in Forensic Astrology: Soulscape has done a chart for Robert, it points exactly where our minds are leaning: 
Credit Soulscape @ WS : http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87148&page=2


**respectfully snipped (more @ link)**

All of these testimonies scream that the mother was deeply involved in this disappearance. Tragically, they also point to the probable homicide of little Robert.



Sadly,



Soulscape


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 04:27:53 PM
Shadow Stalker is glad that he is not news worthy....so press doesnt know who i am

from Robert's older half-brother's myspace page.

Poor kid. He looked in such pain at the briefing. What he must be going through as a young person. It's hard enough on adults but he is so young and quite possibly both of his brothers have been murdered by their mothers.

I just want to hug him.

http://www.myspace.com/kenmanwill..


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 04:29:52 PM
Unless there is some other information I am not aware of, since the Suburban was stolen/borrowed two days before Robert went missing, I am thinking whatever happened to him happened before Friday. Wallis stated the bloodhound hit on the Suburban, and that is what peaked the LE attention. The fact that the grandfather said he "thought" he saw Robert on Friday, makes me wonder....I don't want to say what I wonder.

The fact that Daniel was "down in the back" makes me think that he had recently done some hard work, like digging, or picking up a nine year old boy, and worse. I don't like where my mind is going, but it is going there anyway.   ::MonkeyWaa::

I wish I could be optimistic about the outcome. I will continue to pray. I wish I could believe that some kind soul came along and took Robert out of this he77hole he was in, and gave him a good home, and he is well and happy. The fact of the matter is, something awful has happened to him. I just hope they find him soon, and whoever did this to him will be behind bars. It will not be a satisfactory outcome, but under the circumstances, I guess it is the most that I can hope for.  ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Good afternoon sweet Monkey friends!

Fanny I thought maybe "down in the back"  was meaning that the little boy was playing out in back of the apartments.  The grandfather gave me the impression that his son said the boy was there, but since he glimpsed a child from a distance...he couldn't be sure it was Robert.  That's just how I took the meaning.

I also think the grandfather is carefully wording that so we know he saw a child at a distance that could have been Robert, but all he has to go on is his son's telling him Robert was there.  I think grandpa even thinks something may have happened earlier in the week.  I think maybe something happened to Robert by either the Mom or boyfriend, then they stole..err borrowed the friends car for a few days to depose of the body.  I think the friend has a suspicion they are the ones that used it
the car.  And the friend was out of town that weekend..if they knew that they may have planted evidence in that yard and neighborhood..since it is near the grandpa..who they have tried to say did it.

 I don't believe them..Grandpa seems like he would never have hurt this child.  I think they picked him because they are still smarting over Grandpa telling the courts these fools shouldn't have this boy at all.

That's just my opinion ..can't wait until they find this child  and make an arrest or two for his murder.

That's my opinion as well.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tracygirl on August 02, 2009, 04:52:51 PM
I had read a bit more on this case. It is like watching a train wreck! Why on earth did the mom and her boyfriend have unsupervised custody of Robert.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 05:04:35 PM
I had read a bit more on this case. It is like watching a train wreck! Why on earth did the mom and her boyfriend have unsupervised custody of Robert.



All of us have said the same thing Tracy, from the instant we heard about the mother's injury to her infant son.

CPS, the court system  and the judges involved all have Robert's blood on their hands. They allowed him to have unsupervised visitation and put him at risk by doing so. 

jmo



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 05:11:02 PM
Unless there is some other information I am not aware of, since the Suburban was stolen/borrowed two days before Robert went missing, I am thinking whatever happened to him happened before Friday. Wallis stated the bloodhound hit on the Suburban, and that is what peaked the LE attention. The fact that the grandfather said he "thought" he saw Robert on Friday, makes me wonder....I don't want to say what I wonder.

The fact that Daniel was "down in the back" makes me think that he had recently done some hard work, like digging, or picking up a nine year old boy, and worse. I don't like where my mind is going, but it is going there anyway.   ::MonkeyWaa::

I wish I could be optimistic about the outcome. I will continue to pray. I wish I could believe that some kind soul came along and took Robert out of this he77hole he was in, and gave him a good home, and he is well and happy. The fact of the matter is, something awful has happened to him. I just hope they find him soon, and whoever did this to him will be behind bars. It will not be a satisfactory outcome, but under the circumstances, I guess it is the most that I can hope for.  ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyAngel::


What car thief steals a car and then "returns" it? The car wasn't stolen. Someone borrowed it. Someone that knew him. Why didn't they impound that SUV? The dog "hit" on it.
There could be evidence of Robert being in it.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 02, 2009, 05:21:52 PM
PLEASE GO TO THE PRAYER REQUEST THREAD AND LEAVE A POST FOR NORTHERN ROSE.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=21.new#new


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Lovinlife on August 02, 2009, 05:23:13 PM
Can someone give me a brief description of the Boise, Idaho terrain? 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 05:51:34 PM
Most of the metropolitan area lies on a broad, relatively flat plain, descending to the west. Mountains rise up to the northeast, stretching from the far southeastern tip of the Boise city limits to nearby Eagle. These mountains are known to locals as the Boise foothills and are sometimes described as the foothills of the Rocky Mountains.

Here is a great page that tells a lot about Boise.
http://www.answers.com/topic/boise-idaho


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 05:53:40 PM
Beautiful picture that gives you an idea too, Lov.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 02, 2009, 05:55:40 PM
Can someone give me a brief description of the Boise, Idaho terrain? 

I don't know if you know what "high desert' terrain looks like, but it is mostly like that, a little hilly in spots. There are some trees, and some people have grass lawns, although it is not unusual to see bare dirt. The downtown areas are quite cosmopolitan looking, with big buildings. The city sits against a mountainous area that IIRC are pretty bare and rock like.  I understand you can go snow skiing in the winter somewhere there on the mountain closeby.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 05:57:54 PM
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m8d2-Video-Caller-to-Internet-show-claims-police-found-blood-in-home-of-Robert-Manwills-mom

Video: Caller to Internet show claims police found blood in home of Robert Manwill’s mom
August 2, 4:24 PM

On Saturday, ‘Missing Persons TV’ received a call from a woman named Stephanie, who claimed to be a former neighbor of Robert Manwill’s mother.

Although much of what is said is pure speculation, the caller claims to have seen the police taking evidence from the apartment, including cabinets, carpet, and other furniture.

She also claims investigators found “a lot of blood” in the apartment and on outside stairs.

There is a link to listen included with the article.

 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 06:00:51 PM
Police continue search for Robert Manwill
Jon Meyer
jmeyer@idahopress.com
Updated 2 hours 31 minutes ago

BOISE - Boise Police officials had received more than 300 leads as the search for missing 8-year-old Robert Manwill entered its ninth day on Sunday, with no sign of the boy

BPD Deputy Chief Jim Kerns said the "Find Robert" help line has drawn more than 315 leads, with more coming in to findrobert@cityofboise.org and the mail address "Find Robert," Post Office Box 500, 83701.

Searchers have been looking for the boy since Friday when his family said he disappeared, possibly to a party at an unknown friend's house. On that day and since, search dogs and volunteers from the Vista neighborhood where Robert was last seen and all around Boise combined to look for the young boy. Volunteers came from as far as Caldwell, Nampa, Mountain Home, Meridian, Kuna, Cascade, Idaho City and Horseshoe Bend to lend hands in the search.

" On this Sunday, as many families spend their days together, as many of us enjoy the blessings of friends and family, we ask that you remember the investigators are continuing their work and one family member is missing from a very special family. Please remember to keep Robert and his family in your heart," Kerns said.

At this point, the investigation to find Robert remains an hour to hour effort, officials said.

"We do believe that Robert may be a victim of a tragic event. And until we find Robert we will continue to look and follow up on all credible leads," Kerns said.

"Finding Robert is the top priority for law enforcement all around this valley."

Along with all the leads, officials said some rumors have led to misinformation. Kerns said the police will continue to update the media on breaks in the case.

Robert's aunt Trish Burrill stood next to family members Sunday as she asked the community to keep Robert in their thoughts.

"We know that it is Sunday and you are all gathering with your families on this day. We ask that u remember there is an empty seat at our table. Please pray and continue to think about Robert so we may bring him home - that we may share him with you," she said.

http://www.idahopress.com/?2009-08-02-Police-continue-search-for-Robert-Manwill


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Lovinlife on August 02, 2009, 06:16:46 PM
Thanks Fanny & Pink for the geography lesson of the day.  I have never been out west but have an aunt that lived in Boise at one time and this is exactly what I recollected it would be like.  Just outside of the greater metro area it seems to be pretty barron and open.  It seems to me that this has become a recovery effort.  I hope they can bring little Robert home soon. 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 06:20:14 PM
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m8d2-Video-Caller-to-Internet-show-claims-police-found-blood-in-home-of-Robert-Manwills-mom

Video: Caller to Internet show claims police found blood in home of Robert Manwill’s mom
August 2, 4:24 PM

On Saturday, ‘Missing Persons TV’ received a call from a woman named Stephanie, who claimed to be a former neighbor of Robert Manwill’s mother.

Although much of what is said is pure speculation, the caller claims to have seen the police taking evidence from the apartment, including cabinets, carpet, and other furniture.

She also claims investigators found “a lot of blood” in the apartment and on outside stairs.

There is a link to listen included with the article.

 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

I tried to listen but it crashed on me. I did get from the little that I did see, that it was "Brian Dreams" little internet show. I would take the information from the caller with a grain of salt.

She is a former neighbor?? So, she saw more than the media did?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cookie on August 02, 2009, 10:07:18 PM
my thoughts as well Pinky on the neighbor...
I don't have a good feeling about this little boy though...and I feel that it is family related...sadly ....


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 11:02:05 PM

7.30.2009

Gale St. John is planning on going to Idaho to help search for Robert Manwill, she needs to rise $2,500 for the trip.

She will be taking her assistance, A&E's 'Psychic Kids' Travis Sanders,and her search dog Hilo.

If you wish to contribute to this cause, please click here.
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::
http://psychicgalestjohn.com/robert/

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'd like 2500 to go Idaho and search for Robert myself. I have a better chance of finding Robert than that fake ass phony money grubbing beggar.

She disgusts me begging for money in the name of a child. Using people's emotions about this little man (and Caylee and Haleigh and all the others) so she can tramp around the countryside with her dog (who is not even a certified search dog) staying in hotels and eating out while other people foot the bill.






Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 11:10:44 PM
(http://media.2news.tv/images/Neighbors%20Manwill%20Memorial.jpg)

Neighbors want answers in Manwill disappearance

tory Updated: Aug 2, 2009 at 7:19 PM MDT
By Jen Wahl
Video
BOISE - A Memorial for missing Robert Manwill lines the street in front of his mother's apartment complex.

Letters from the family ask the little boy to hang on and promise they won't give up hope.

But Robert has been missing for nine days now and Heather Estrada is just one of many who are still praying for the best but wants answers.

"People have probably lost hope and it's hard after nine days," Estrada said. "You start thinking the worst."

At a news conference Sunday afternoon, Robert's family stood behind authorities. But for the third day in a row, his mother Melissa Jenkins was absent. Aunt Trish Burrill spoke again for the family.

"Please pray and continue to think about Robert," Burrill said. "So that we can bring him home and share him with you."

Police say they know where Jenkins is but won't disclose her location. CBS 2 knocked on her apartment door but there was no answer.

Authorities say no one is in custody and no arrest warrants have been issued. But no one has been cleared from the investigation either.

Regardless of any rumors surrounding the investigation, there are thousands of people in the community like Estrada who want nothing more than to see Robert Manwill come home.

http://www.2news.tv/news/local/52316377.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 11:13:59 PM
‘America’s Most Wanted’ features Robert Manwill case
August 2, 4:12 PM

On Saturday evening, Fox’s ‘America’s Most Wanted’ featured the case of Robert Manwill, the 8-year-old boy who went missing while visiting his mother in Boise.

Robert disappeared at about 9:30 p.m. on Friday, July 24 and the search continues. Police have announced that he may have been the victim of tragic circumstances and factors surrounding his disappearance are ‘suspicious,’ but have not elaborated on their findings.

The focus of the investigation has narrowed to a residence in southwest Boise, but the reasons why this home is being targeted by authorities have not been released.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m8d2-Americas-Most-Wanted-features-Robert-Manwill-case


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 02, 2009, 11:47:33 PM

7.30.2009

Gale St. John is planning on going to Idaho to help search for Robert Manwill, she needs to rise $2,500 for the trip.

She will be taking her assistance, A&E's 'Psychic Kids' Travis Sanders,and her search dog Hilo.

If you wish to contribute to this cause, please click here.
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::
http://psychicgalestjohn.com/robert/

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'd like 2500 to go Idaho and search for Robert myself. I have a better chance of finding Robert than that fake ass phony money grubbing beggar.

She disgusts me begging for money in the name of a child. Using people's emotions about this little man (and Caylee and Haleigh and all the others) so she can tramp around the countryside with her dog (who is not even a certified search dog) staying in hotels and eating out while other people foot the bill.






I heard her and her group cleaned out a buffet table on one of their trips down to Orlando.

(http://i715.photobucket.com/albums/ww157/Fannymae65/buffet.gif)(http://i715.photobucket.com/albums/ww157/Fannymae65/17-1.gif)


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 02, 2009, 11:49:41 PM

Quote

I heard her and her group cleaned out a buffet table on one of their trips down to Orlando.

(http://i715.photobucket.com/albums/ww157/Fannymae65/buffet.gif)(http://i715.photobucket.com/albums/ww157/Fannymae65/17-1.gif)

The emotes cracked me up! LOL

Thanks for the giggle.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 02:42:48 AM
Lighting a candle and saying a prayer for Robert. May he be found soon and brought home to the family that loves him. http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 04:29:57 AM
'We aren't giving up' on Robert Manwill
Residents want Robert Manwill and his family to know they support them.
BY ROCKY BARKER - rbarker@idahostatesman.com
Published: 08/03/09

More than a dozen people carrying green glow sticks and lighting candles gathered Sunday night at a makeshift tribute near Robert's mother's apartment.

The group, which had attracted 60 people to a vigil on Friday, intends to meet every night until Robert comes home.

"We just did it to show that we aren't giving up and the family shouldn't give up either," said Steve Adams, a resident of the Southwest Boise neighborhood.

Adams and his wife, Nikki, invited friends by text to the informal gatherings and encouraged them to bring a stuffed animal for Robert.

Those who gathered said they don't talk about who may be responsible for Robert's disappearance or details of the investigation.

"Everybody has their own opinions and their own thoughts, but we don't care about that," Nikki Adams said.

Robert, 8, was reported missing at 10:11 p.m. on July 24.

At a Sunday news conference, Boise police urged residents not to listen to widely circulating rumors and to know that officers will pass on information through the media. Officers received 315 leads via the helpline and are working on those that are credible.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/localnews/story/853966.html

(http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2009/08/02/22/27-0803_local_vigil.embedded.prod_affiliate.36.jpg)


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 03, 2009, 08:44:03 AM

7.30.2009

Gale St. John is planning on going to Idaho to help search for Robert Manwill, she needs to rise $2,500 for the trip.

She will be taking her assistance, A&E's 'Psychic Kids' Travis Sanders,and her search dog Hilo.

If you wish to contribute to this cause, please click here.
 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::
http://psychicgalestjohn.com/robert/

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::



I'd like 2500 to go Idaho and search for Robert myself. I have a better chance of finding Robert than that fake ass phony money grubbing beggar.

She disgusts me begging for money in the name of a child. Using people's emotions about this little man (and Caylee and Haleigh and all the others) so she can tramp around the countryside with her dog (who is not even a certified search dog) staying in hotels and eating out while other people foot the bill.






Oh FTLOG.....this woman makes me sick!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 03, 2009, 08:58:51 AM
News media briefings will be held at noon daily, until further notice, at Boise City Hall West, 333 N. Sailfish Place.

http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/Police/NewsReleases/2009/page45044.aspx

**also at this link is a video demo of Maddy the bloodhound.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 10:10:28 AM
News media briefings will be held at noon daily, until further notice, at Boise City Hall West, 333 N. Sailfish Place.

http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/Police/NewsReleases/2009/page45044.aspx

**also at this link is a video demo of Maddy the bloodhound.


Good morning and thank you Leroy! I posted this link on page 33.
The video of Maddy is interesting to watch. (one of the few videos that have played for me. It opened up in Real Player) She seems like such a smart, well trained dog. You can tell once she puts that harness on, she is ready to work. Amazing.

He said at the news conference yesterday (The Sheriff) that the next news conference won't be till Tuesday at Noon. Did he mis-speak? I don't know. I guess we will have to wait and see today. The last two news conferences haven't been streamed live but show up pretty quickly for viewing after the fact on the various news sites.

Let's hope today is the day Robert is found and brought home!



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 03, 2009, 10:18:03 AM
News media briefings will be held at noon daily, until further notice, at Boise City Hall West, 333 N. Sailfish Place.

http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/Police/NewsReleases/2009/page45044.aspx

**also at this link is a video demo of Maddy the bloodhound.


Good morning and thank you Leroy! I posted this link on page 33.
The video of Maddy is interesting to watch. (one of the few videos that have played for me. It opened up in Real Player) She seems like such a smart, well trained dog. You can tell once she puts that harness on, she is ready to work. Amazing.

He said at the news conference yesterday (The Sheriff) that the next news conference won't be till Tuesday at Noon. Did he mis-speak? I don't know. I guess we will have to wait and see today. The last two news conferences haven't been streamed live but show up pretty quickly for viewing after the fact on the various news sites.

Let's hope today is the day Robert is found and brought home!



Well by golly you're right....not sure how I missed your post.  I enjoyed the video of Maddy!

I thought it was interesting too that they said no news conference till Tuesday but the website says otherwise.  Guess we will find out at noon today!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cookie on August 03, 2009, 10:23:48 AM
morning all..
does anyone know whose house they are focusing on? I assume that it is not the family's home?
praying for this little boy...


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 10:26:12 AM
News media briefings will be held at noon daily, until further notice, at Boise City Hall West, 333 N. Sailfish Place.

http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/Police/NewsReleases/2009/page45044.aspx

**also at this link is a video demo of Maddy the bloodhound.


Good morning and thank you Leroy! I posted this link on page 33.
The video of Maddy is interesting to watch. (one of the few videos that have played for me. It opened up in Real Player) She seems like such a smart, well trained dog. You can tell once she puts that harness on, she is ready to work. Amazing.

He said at the news conference yesterday (The Sheriff) that the next news conference won't be till Tuesday at Noon. Did he mis-speak? I don't know. I guess we will have to wait and see today. The last two news conferences haven't been streamed live but show up pretty quickly for viewing after the fact on the various news sites.

Let's hope today is the day Robert is found and brought home!



Well by golly you're right....not sure how I missed your post.  I enjoyed the video of Maddy!

I thought it was interesting too that they said no news conference till Tuesday but the website says otherwise.  Guess we will find out at noon today!

No worries. I post so often, it's easy to miss one. This case has me losing sleep. I wish I was closer so I could do something. I hate feeling helpless.

I think they are doing a lot of interviewing, re-interviewing and forensic work from all the evidence they have collected. He made a comment about much of their work is being done away from the eyes of the media.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 10:28:33 AM
morning all..
does anyone know whose house they are focusing on? I assume that it is not the family's home?
praying for this little boy...

The 2 places that have searched is the mother's apartment and the Wallis house on Southdale, cookie.

Now they are working on processing whatever they collected, I imagine. There hasn't been any searches since the search at Southdale on Saturday ended just before noon.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 10:29:29 AM
morning all..
does anyone know whose house they are focusing on? I assume that it is not the family's home?
praying for this little boy...

The 2 places that have searched is the mother's apartment and the Wallis house on Southdale, cookie.

Now they are working on processing whatever they collected, I imagine. There hasn't been any searches since the search at Southdale on Saturday ended just before noon.

p.s. Good morning hon! Every time I see your name, I get hungry. ;)


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 10:30:59 AM
'We aren't giving up' on Robert Manwill
Residents want Robert Manwill and his family to know they support them.
BY ROCKY BARKER - rbarker@idahostatesman.com
Published: 08/03/09

More than a dozen people carrying green glow sticks and lighting candles gathered Sunday night at a makeshift tribute near Robert's mother's apartment.

The group, which had attracted 60 people to a vigil on Friday, intends to meet every night until Robert comes home.

"We just did it to show that we aren't giving up and the family shouldn't give up either," said Steve Adams, a resident of the Southwest Boise neighborhood.

Adams and his wife, Nikki, invited friends by text to the informal gatherings and encouraged them to bring a stuffed animal for Robert.

Those who gathered said they don't talk about who may be responsible for Robert's disappearance or details of the investigation.

"Everybody has their own opinions and their own thoughts, but we don't care about that," Nikki Adams said.

Robert, 8, was reported missing at 10:11 p.m. on July 24.

At a Sunday news conference, Boise police urged residents not to listen to widely circulating rumors and to know that officers will pass on information through the media. Officers received 315 leads via the helpline and are working on those that are credible.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/localnews/story/853966.html

(http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2009/08/02/22/27-0803_local_vigil.embedded.prod_affiliate.36.jpg)

News media briefings will be held at noon daily, until further notice, at Boise City Hall West, 333 N. Sailfish Place.

http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/Police/NewsReleases/2009/page45044.aspx

**also at this link is a video demo of Maddy the bloodhound.

bumping the most latest news.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 03, 2009, 12:24:27 PM
Good Afternoon Everybody, or at least it is here.  ::MonkeyAngel::

All I can really do is read along with the posts and pray alot. I sure hope something breaks today in the news about Robert.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 03, 2009, 12:32:20 PM
Good Afternoon Everybody, or at least it is here.  ::MonkeyAngel::

All I can really do is read along with the posts and pray alot. I sure hope something breaks today in the news about Robert.   ::MonkeyCool::
I do also, but I do have faith in LE that is investigating this case, but I don't in a couple of other cases, unfortunately.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 03, 2009, 12:49:34 PM
Good Afternoon Everybody, or at least it is here.  ::MonkeyAngel::

All I can really do is read along with the posts and pray alot. I sure hope something breaks today in the news about Robert.   ::MonkeyCool::
I do also, but I do have faith in LE that is investigating this case, but I don't in a couple of other cases, unfortunately.


I agree with you both.

Maybe they are working on forensics and will have some results ..or maybe the forensics will lead to 1 or 2 people that they will be able to breakdown their story.

I dofeel this case will be resolved soon,,,,just waiting and praying.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 01:34:17 PM
Day Nine In Search For Robert

Posted: Aug 2, 2009 07:21 PM

Boise, Idaho -- We continue to watch and to wait for any sign of Robert Manwill. It's been over a week, and still no sign of the missing 8 year old.

Meet Mattie.

"Mattie..you wanna work?....<dog barks>...alright!"

She's a bloodhound, and she's the newest recruit out of Indiana to aid in the search for Manwill. She brings along her handler Miriam Perry who volunteers for the National Center For Missing and Exploited Children. They've come to Boise free of charge to help find Manwill.

"Smell it, seek it and she's off!" said Perry, handling Mattie in a demonstration.

Mattie is a sent specific bloodhound.

"It doesn't matter how many people have walked that area, she is gong to go after one sent I've given her," said Perry.

The Boise Police says Mattie has been crucial in the investigation, but won't elaborate on the specifics. Nor will they elaborate on what they're looking for at they Ada County Landfill Saturday. Or the house in Southwest Boise, where police set up a tent in the backyard.

Compared to the last three days, Sunday has been quiet with no visible searches. Meanwhile, police continue to filter through hundreds of leads -- 315 to be exact. Beyond that, it's been very hush hush.

"At this point the investigation to find Robert remains an hour to hour effort. We do believe that robert may be the victim of a tragic event," said Boise Police Deputy Chief Jim Kerns.

And as the volunteers rest after a weekend of searching, the family of Manwill continues to wait and to pray for this lost little boy.

"We ask that you remember there is an empty seat at our table please pray and continue to think about Robert so we can bring him home so that we can share him with you," said Trish Burril , Robert's aunt.

Barring any breaking news about Robert, police have planned another press conference tomorrow afternoon. We'll of course keep you updated with any new information.

http://www.fox12idaho.com/Global/story.asp?S=10834610&nav=menu439_2


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 03, 2009, 01:55:38 PM
Thanks Pink.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Lovinlife on August 03, 2009, 01:58:50 PM
Awwwww, thanks pink.  S&R dogs are amazing, God's creatures for sure.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Lovinlife on August 03, 2009, 05:09:52 PM
http://www.localnews8.com/Global/story.asp?S=10839352&nav=menu554_1_1

Officials: Body of juvenile male pulled from canal
 
Associated Press - August 3, 2009 4:34 PM ET

BOISE, Idaho (AP) - Ada County dispatchers say a body of a young male has been pulled from an Ada County canal.

A passerby called emergency workers to report that they had seen a body in the canal near Kuna about 1:30 p.m. Monday.

The Ada County coroner was working to identify the body. Boise police spokeswoman Lynn Hightower said a daily briefing on the search for missing 8-year-old Robert Manwill was canceled to give police time to determine if the body is connected to Manwill's case.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Lovinlife on August 03, 2009, 05:22:30 PM
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Kuna,+Idaho&daddr=Boise,+Idaho&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=30.461748,56.337891&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=11

Kuna, ID to Boise, ID...29 minutes (16 miles)


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: atlanta_mom on August 03, 2009, 05:23:06 PM
http://www.localnews8.com/Global/story.asp?S=10839352&nav=menu554_1_1

Officials: Body of juvenile male pulled from canal
 
Associated Press - August 3, 2009 4:34 PM ET

BOISE, Idaho (AP) - Ada County dispatchers say a body of a young male has been pulled from an Ada County canal.

A passerby called emergency workers to report that they had seen a body in the canal near Kuna about 1:30 p.m. Monday.

The Ada County coroner was working to identify the body. Boise police spokeswoman Lynn Hightower said a daily briefing on the search for missing 8-year-old Robert Manwill was canceled to give police time to determine if the body is connected to Manwill's case.


Oh no..... ::MonkeyNoNo::

I am scared they are looking for a body.  The whole tone of the case changed after Thursday.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: carolb on August 03, 2009, 05:23:32 PM
The search for Robert Manwill: Coroner headed to canal between Boise and Kuna to investigate dead body
Statesman staff - Idaho Statesman

"A police update on the disappearance of 8-year-old Robert Manwill has been postponed while police investigate reports that a body has been found in the New York Canal near Cloverdale Road — about two miles southwest of the home police searched Friday night.

The New York Canal, which runs past Vista Avenue less than half a mile from the apartment complex that Manwill was reportedly last seen, feeds much of the Valley's canal system west of Boise.

At a little after 2 p.m., detectives were walking up and down the canal banks. A deputy was blocking access.

The Ada County Coroner is on the scene."

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/854612.html



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 05:33:44 PM
BREAKING: Body found in canal, police investigate possible Manwill connection

03:16 PM MDT on Monday, August 3, 2009

KTVB.COM

KTVB

Police crews responded to the scene of a body found in a canal Monday afternoon.

BOISE - A body has been pulled from an area canal - and a briefing related to the disappearance of Robert Manwill has been cancelled.

Just after 1:30 p.m., police responded to the New York Canal in the area of Deer Flat and Stewart St. in the Kuna area.

The Ada County Coroner is on the scene, and police say the person is dead. The coroner has not confirmed the sex, age or identity of the body, though dispatchers did tell KTVB that initial reports say the body was that of a male juvinile.

The New York Canal, where the body was found, runs from an area near the apartment complex where Manwill was reported missing - and the scene where today's body was found, however police officials tell NewsChannel 7 it is unlikely the body would be able to get from one point to another.

There are several grates in the water between the two scenes that would generally block objects from passing through.

Dispatchers tell us no other children have been reported missing today.

The family of Robert Manwill has gathered at Boise Police headquarters, and is awaiting further word on the outcome of this situation.

Boise Police spokeswoman Lynn Hightower tells NewsChannel 7 and KTVB.COM that the previously scheduled 2pm news conference on the search for Robert Manwill has been cancelled, in order to further investigate the body found in the canal.

KTVB.COM and NewsChannel 7 will bring you additional details as soon as we get them from our crew on the scene.

(http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/L_IMAGE.1223cc986ef.93.88.fa.d0.a53c4bcf.jpg)


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Lovinlife on August 03, 2009, 05:35:30 PM



http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0309-kuna_canal_body.a50d15f2.html

BREAKING: Body found in canal, police investigate possible Manwill connection

(http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/L_IMAGE.1223cc986ef.93.88.fa.d0.a53c4bcf.jpg)

03:16 PM MDT on Monday, August 3, 2009
BOISE - A body has been pulled from an area canal - and a briefing related to the disappearance of Robert Manwill has been cancelled.

Just after 1:30 p.m., police responded to the New York Canal in the area of Deer Flat and Stewart St. in the Kuna area.

The Ada County Coroner is on the scene, and police say the person is dead. The coroner has not confirmed the sex, age or identity of the body, though dispatchers did tell KTVB that initial reports say the body was that of a male juvinile.

The New York Canal, where the body was found, runs from an area near the apartment complex where Manwill was reported missing - and the scene where today's body was found, however police officials tell NewsChannel 7 it is unlikely the body would be able to get from one point to another.

There are several grates in the water between the two scenes that would generally block objects from passing through.

Dispatchers tell us no other children have been reported missing today.

The family of Robert Manwill has gathered at Boise Police headquarters, and is awaiting further word on the outcome of this situation.

Boise Police spokeswoman Lynn Hightower tells NewsChannel 7 and KTVB.COM that the previously scheduled 2pm news conference on the search for Robert Manwill has been cancelled, in order to further investigate the body found in the canal.

KTVB.COM and NewsChannel 7 will bring you additional details as soon as we get them from our crew on the scene.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 05:36:28 PM
Praying for Robert and his family. I am afraid this may be our little man.
My heart is breaking.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 03, 2009, 05:40:30 PM
Praying for Robert and his family. I am afraid this may be our little man.
My heart is breaking.

Mine is too Pink. Mine is too.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Anna on August 03, 2009, 05:44:59 PM
Thank you for this timely update.  Our prayers are all we can do for Robert right now.  Awaiting positive ID but I am fearful it will be him.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: MuffyBee on August 03, 2009, 05:46:34 PM
Robert's candles:

Please say a prayer and light a candle for Robert

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 03, 2009, 05:49:15 PM
Praying for Robert and his family. I am afraid this may be our little man.
My heart is breaking.

Mine is too Pink. Mine is too.  ::MonkeyWaa::

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 03, 2009, 05:51:47 PM
Thanks for the updates, how very sad, prayers for Robert's family  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on August 03, 2009, 05:55:08 PM
http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/854612.html

(http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2009/08/03/15/85-body2.embedded.prod_affiliate.36.jpg)

August 03, 2009
The search for Robert Manwill: Coroner working to ID body found in canal
Statesman staff - Idaho Statesman

The Ada County Coroner is trying to identify a body found in a canal between Boise and Kuna near Cloverdale Road and Hubbard Road.
Boise police postponed a press conference to update the disappearance of 8-year-old Robert Manwill while investigators determine whether this is connected.

The canal is about two miles southwest of a home Boise police searched Friday night — but it's also connected to the New York Canal, which runs less than half a mile south of the Vista Avenue apartment complex from which Manwill was reported missing.

A canal company worker said it would be possible for a body to travel from where the canal passes Vista Avenue to where a body was found Monday.

In the past several years, bodies have been known to travel far down canals over several days and even a few weeks.

— In 1991, a 4-year-old was discovered about two weeks after he fell into the Phyllis Canal near Nampa — and about 14 miles downstream.

In 1996, at least three people traveled some distance in local canals:

— A 19-year-old was found in the New York Canal a month after he disappeared. His truck was found about two miles upstream.

— A man was discovered in an irrigation ditch, about five miles away from where he was swept away while he and his friends were swimming.

— A transient was discovered near the entrance of Lake Lowell — farther even than the body found Monday near Cloverdale. Officials didn't know where he first fell into the canal, but figured it was somewhere in Ada County about 10 days before he was found.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 05:56:26 PM
The Ada County Coroner is trying to identify a body found in a canal between Boise and Kuna near Cloverdale Road and Hubbard Road.

Boise police postponed a press conference to update the disappearance of 8-year-old Robert Manwill while investigators determine whether this is connected.

The canal is about two miles southwest of a home Boise police searched Friday night — but it's also connected to the New York Canal, which runs less than half a mile south of the Vista Avenue apartment complex from which Manwill was reported missing.

A canal company worker said it would be possible for a body to travel from where the canal passes Vista Avenue to where a body was found Monday.

In the past several years, bodies have been known to travel far down canals over several days and even a few weeks.

— In 1991, a 4-year-old was discovered about two weeks after he fell into the Phyllis Canal near Nampa — and about 14 miles downstream.

In 1996, at least three people traveled some distance in local canals:

— A 19-year-old was found in the New York Canal a month after he disappeared. His truck was found about two miles upstream.

— A man was discovered in an irrigation ditch, about five miles away from where he was swept away while he and his friends were swimming.

— A transient was discovered near the entrance of Lake Lowell — farther even than the body found Monday near Cloverdale. Officials didn't know where he first fell into the canal, but figured it was somewhere in Ada County about 10 days before he was found.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/854612.html

 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 05:57:11 PM
sorry klaas, we are sharing a brain. you can delete mine.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Lovinlife on August 03, 2009, 05:57:59 PM
Possible/not possible ::MonkeyConfused::

Prayers for Robby and his family.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on August 03, 2009, 05:58:26 PM
May have already been posted:
http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0309-kuna_canal_body.a50d15f2.html



03:54 PM MDT on Monday, August 3, 2009


Police crews responded to the scene of a body found in a canal Monday afternoon.


BOISE - A body has been pulled from an area canal - and a briefing related to the disappearance of Robert Manwill has been cancelled.

Just after 1:30 p.m., police responded to the New York Canal in the area of Deer Flat and Stewart St. in the Kuna area.

The Ada County Coroner is on the scene, and police say the person is dead. The coroner has not confirmed the sex, age or identity of the body, though dispatchers did tell KTVB that initial reports say the body was that of a male juvinile.

The New York Canal, where the body was found, runs from an area near the apartment complex where Manwill was reported missing - and the scene where today's body was found, however police officials tell NewsChannel 7 it is not certain the body would be able to get from one point to another.

There are several grates in the water between the two scenes that could block objects from passing through.The canal measures about 14 miles between the apartment area and the location where the body was found.

Polcie initially said last week that they had ruled out the canal as a search location

Dispatchers tell us no other children have been reported missing today.

The family of Robert Manwill has gathered at Boise Police headquarters, and is awaiting further word on the outcome of this situation.

Boise Police spokeswoman Lynn Hightower tells NewsChannel 7 and KTVB.COM that the previously scheduled 2pm news conference on the search for Robert Manwill has been cancelled, in order to further investigate the body found in the canal.

KTVB.COM and NewsChannel 7 will bring you additional details as soon as we get them from our crew on the scene.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on August 03, 2009, 06:00:31 PM
Again - may be a repost:

http://www.kivitv.com/global/story.asp?s=10839419

Body Found in New York Canal

Updated: Aug 3, 2009 02:39 PM PDT

 
 
 
 
The Ada County Sheriff's Department is responding to a body found in the water of the New York canal this afternoon.  A spokesperson says the body was found by a citizen who reported it was that of a male child.  The Ada County Sheriff's Office would not confirm the identity.  Boise Police tell Today's Channel 6 the identity of the body is a high priority.  Police will not say if this is related to the search of Robert Manwill, however, the 2pm press conference was cancelled for what police described as "developments in the case."  Stay with Today's Channel 6 for the latest developments.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 03, 2009, 06:02:42 PM
I really have no words right now   ::MonkeyWaa:: 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on August 03, 2009, 06:02:53 PM
http://www.2news.tv/news/local/52376192.html

Experts warn against drawing conclusions in Manwill case
by Scott Logan

Originally printed at http://www.2news.tv/news/local/52376192.html

BOISE -- Even as police conducted an intense search of the apartment where Robert's mother and her boyfriend live, officers say they have no suspects and urge the public not to draw conclusions.

But it's apparently hard for some people not to, given the couple's criminal record and the mom's absence from recent press briefings.

"She showed a little remorse the first day," said Keisha Bell of Boise, who has been volunteering in the search for Robert. "But on the second day, she showed no remorse."

And while thanking the community for its support, Robert's family has also addressed community suspicions.

"Every member of Robert's family, whether you see them or not are very close," said Trish Burrill, Robert's aunt. "We're all doing all we can do."

Psychology experts say it's human nature to draw conclusions.

"People probably started drawing conclusions about this early on," said Dr. Tom Young with the Warm Springs Counseling Center in Boise. "But the reality is you don't know, you can't be 100 per sure, so you shouldn't do it."

Dr. Young also says he and his colleagues have gotten many calls from parents on how to talk to their children about this very public search.

"We've encouraged parents to let them take this opportunity to talk about safety in a good way," said Dr. Young, "That you need to pay attention, and watch out."


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on August 03, 2009, 06:03:32 PM
I really have no words right now   ::MonkeyWaa:: 

I know Leroy - it's so sad.  Children are not disposable!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 06:09:04 PM
It's about 14 miles away from Robert's moms house according to KBOI.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 03, 2009, 06:13:58 PM
Sure, sure! Don't jump to conclusions. Just because the mom and her live-in both have histories. Mom cracking her baby's head open, and her live in can't even be near her small daughter and shouldn't even be living there in the first place.. No, don't jump to conclusions! They have their "rights" and "issues." No, don't use any logical thought process on this.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I am sure some sleezy lawyer and a psycological councilor can figure a good tidy reason why this happened. In the meantime, another small child's life is snuffed out. But be careful, don't jump to conclusions.   ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 06:21:27 PM
 The Ada County Coroner is on the scene, and police say the person is dead. The coroner has not confirmed the sex, age or identity of the body, though dispatchers did tell KTVB that initial reports say the body was that of a male juvenile

KTVB

Police crews responded to the scene of a body found in a canal Monday afternoon.

The New York Canal, where the body was found, runs from an area near the apartment complex where Manwill was reported missing - and the scene where today's body was found, however police officials tell NewsChannel 7 it is not certain the body would be able to get from one point to another.
Coroner to ID body

There are several grates in the water between the two scenes that could block objects from passing through. The canal measures about 14 miles between the apartment area and the location where the body was found.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0309-kuna_canal_body.a50d15f2.html

First it's not possible he floated down that far, then it is, now it "may be".


We might have to wait to find out cause of death. If he could have made it that far...is it possible he fell in and drowned? Or do you think mom/BF dumped him hoping that if he was found that is what happened?



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 03, 2009, 06:23:24 PM
Police initially said last week that they had ruled out the canal as a search location

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0309-kuna_canal_body.a50d15f2.html

Wonder why???


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 06:23:47 PM


Police initially said last week that they had ruled out the canal as a search location


::crys::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 03, 2009, 06:23:47 PM
Sure, sure! Don't jump to conclusions. Just because the mom and her live-in both have histories. Mom cracking her baby's head open, and her live in can't even be near her small daughter and shouldn't even be living there in the first place.. No, don't jump to conclusions! They have their "rights" and "issues." No, don't use any logical thought process on this.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I am sure some sleezy lawyer and a psycological councilor can figure a good tidy reason why this happened. In the meantime, another small child's life is snuffed out. But be careful, don't jump to conclusions.   ::MonkeyWaa::
I feel the exact same way, and it is human nature to do that anyway, might not be right, but that's what people do.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 03, 2009, 06:27:29 PM


Police initially said last week that they had ruled out the canal as a search location


::crys::

I know I just caught that.  did they publicly announce this?  Could someone have moved him there since they knew it wasn't an area of interest?  Ughh, I'm just sick to my stomach...


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 06:28:26 PM
If it is Robert, and if there are grates to prevent a body from passing with the flow, then someone placed him there.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on August 03, 2009, 06:29:23 PM
Prime News - Headline news is going to discuss this sad case next. 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 06:32:37 PM

The search continues for a missing 8 year old boy, and now the FBI is getting involved. Charles McClure of the Boise Police department says they've handed out fliers, stopped cars, and searched a canal and a nearby pond trying to find Robert Manwill who was last seen Friday night about 9:30 near his home in the 2800 block of Cherry Lane. Robert is 4 foot 11 with dark hair, brown eyes and weighs about 50 pounds. If you have any info, please call 343-COPS.

http://www.670kboi.com/Article.asp?id=1429312&spid=18042

They did search the canal by the apartment on Friday night and Saturday.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 03, 2009, 06:33:00 PM


Police initially said last week that they had ruled out the canal as a search location


::crys::

I know I just caught that.  did they publicly announce this?  Could someone have moved him there since they knew it wasn't an area of interest?  Ughh, I'm just sick to my stomach...

I'm thinking that the banks of the canal were searched near the apartment and no tracks, footprints, or skid places where he might have slipped in were found. I don't think that is where he was first placed in the irrigation canal. There was probably a reason for a suburban being used as a vehicle getting to a more remote terrain. JMO


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on August 03, 2009, 06:34:10 PM
Prime News - Headline news is going to discuss this sad case next. 

Thanks ANJ


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 03, 2009, 06:35:49 PM
HLN just ran that video of Wallis being interview, and they CUT the part where he said this "MURDER" and then quickly changed it.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on August 03, 2009, 06:36:55 PM
http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0309-kuna_canal_body.a50d15f2.html

(http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/L_IMAGE.1223cc986ef.93.88.fa.d0.a57ee32a.jpg)



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 03, 2009, 06:37:13 PM


Police initially said last week that they had ruled out the canal as a search location


::crys::
Could LE have just said that, but didn't rule it out?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 06:39:18 PM


Police initially said last week that they had ruled out the canal as a search location


::crys::

I know I just caught that.  did they publicly announce this?  Could someone have moved him there since they knew it wasn't an area of interest?  Ughh, I'm just sick to my stomach...

I'm thinking that the banks of the canal were searched near the apartment and no tracks, footprints, or skid places where he might have slipped in were found. I don't think that is where he was first placed in the irrigation canal. There was probably a reason for a suburban being used as a vehicle getting to a more remote terrain. JMO

http://www.fisherinteractive.com/kbci/live/

A passerby driving by is the one who saw the body.

The body is in a different county as from where Robert disappeared from.

The aunt and other family members are at the police station for word and the mother and her boyfriend are not there with the rest of the family.
Also today the bloodhound picked up a scent and the news said the police will go in further at a press conference later tonight.

They will have more on the five o'clock news.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 06:43:58 PM


Police initially said last week that they had ruled out the canal as a search location


::crys::
Could LE have just said that, but didn't rule it out?

According to this article, they did search the canal near the apartment. They probably searched to the first grate. I don't know.

The search continues for a missing 8 year old boy, and now the FBI is getting involved. Charles McClure of the Boise Police department says they've handed out fliers, stopped cars, and searched a canal and a nearby pond trying to find Robert Manwill who was last seen Friday night about 9:30 near his home in the 2800 block of Cherry Lane. Robert is 4 foot 11 with dark hair, brown eyes and weighs about 50 pounds. If you have any info, please call 343-COPS.

http://www.670kboi.com/Article.asp?id=1429312&spid=18042



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 03, 2009, 06:45:16 PM
HLN just ran that video of Wallis being interview, and they CUT the part where he said this "MURDER" and then quickly changed it.  ::MonkeyEek::

This Wallis guy....i just have a bad feeling about him and mostly due to that *slip up*.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 03, 2009, 06:45:23 PM
The mother and her boyfriend are not there with the rest of the family.  (From above article, well that is very interesting wonder where they are, maybe in jail.)


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 03, 2009, 06:46:15 PM
HLN just ran that video of Wallis being interview, and they CUT the part where he said this "MURDER" and then quickly changed it.  ::MonkeyEek::

This Wallis guy....i just have a bad feeling about him and mostly due to that *slip up*.
Me too  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Kat_Gram on August 03, 2009, 06:47:10 PM
Why aren't the bio egg donor and her boyfriend with the rest of the family ?
I will be sure to jump to no conclusions here. There might be a health issue, ( theirs ) if they are with the rest of the family.  


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 03, 2009, 06:50:32 PM
Why aren't the bio egg donor and her boyfriend with the rest of the family ?
I will be sure to jump to no conclusions here. There might be a health issue, ( theirs ) if they are with the rest of the family.  
Could be, or they are in jail.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tracygirl on August 03, 2009, 06:56:49 PM
Terrible news, poor little boy....When I worked at the child abuse center we would see this all of the time. Such an effort to reunite children with their bio parents although there is a history of abuse. A little boy I was close to had been taken to the hospital with serious injuries before he was taken away for good.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 06:59:38 PM
 There are at least five grates in the water between the two scenes that could block objects from passing through. The canal measures about 14 miles between the apartment area and the location where the body was found. (See map below).

KTVB has attempted to reach canal officials, but they have not returned our calls.

Grates like this one are placed into the water throughout the canal - though this one was in the open position Monday afternoon.
(http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/M_IMAGE.1223cc986ef.93.88.fa.d0.a5a4eac5.jpg)





Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 03, 2009, 07:02:40 PM
There are at least five grates in the water between the two scenes that could block objects from passing through. The canal measures about 14 miles between the apartment area and the location where the body was found. (See map below).

KTVB has attempted to reach canal officials, but they have not returned our calls.

Grates like this one are placed into the water throughout the canal - though this one was in the open position Monday afternoon.
(http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/M_IMAGE.1223cc986ef.93.88.fa.d0.a5a4eac5.jpg)




Thanks, just wondering if the grates could have been up, but if there are five I guess that isn't an option.  ::MonkeyConfused:: Was the body found near the house the police were searching?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 03, 2009, 07:03:29 PM
Why aren't the bio egg donor and her boyfriend with the rest of the family ?
I will be sure to jump to no conclusions here. There might be a health issue, ( theirs ) if they are with the rest of the family.  
Could be, or they are in jail.

Is there a Ritz Carleton nearby? Anyone seen Michelle Bart lurking around anywhere?? ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 07:03:48 PM
Channel 2 said that the area around the canal has now been declared a crime scene.

The Ada Corner has just confirmed the body as a male juvenile.

http://www.fisherinteractive.com/kbci/live/


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 07:05:55 PM
There are at least five grates in the water between the two scenes that could block objects from passing through. The canal measures about 14 miles between the apartment area and the location where the body was found. (See map below).

KTVB has attempted to reach canal officials, but they have not returned our calls.

Grates like this one are placed into the water throughout the canal - though this one was in the open position Monday afternoon.
(http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/M_IMAGE.1223cc986ef.93.88.fa.d0.a5a4eac5.jpg)




Thanks, just wondering if the grates could have been up, but if there are five I guess that isn't an option.  ::MonkeyConfused:: Was the body found near the house the police were searching?

IIRC an earlier article said about 2 miles from the house they searched, norose.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 03, 2009, 07:06:27 PM
Channel 2 said that the area around the canal has now been declared a crime scene.

The Ada Corner has just confirmed the body as a male juvenile.

http://www.fisherinteractive.com/kbci/live/
Thanks, now I wonder where Robert's mom and mom's boyfriend are?  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: birdgurl on August 03, 2009, 07:09:52 PM
Sure, sure! Don't jump to conclusions. Just because the mom and her live-in both have histories. Mom cracking her baby's head open, and her live in can't even be near her small daughter and shouldn't even be living there in the first place.. No, don't jump to conclusions! They have their "rights" and "issues." No, don't use any logical thought process on this.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I am sure some sleezy lawyer and a psycological councilor can figure a good tidy reason why this happened. In the meantime, another small child's life is snuffed out. But be careful, don't jump to conclusions.   ::MonkeyWaa::

amen... ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 03, 2009, 07:11:37 PM
Sure, sure! Don't jump to conclusions. Just because the mom and her live-in both have histories. Mom cracking her baby's head open, and her live in can't even be near her small daughter and shouldn't even be living there in the first place.. No, don't jump to conclusions! They have their "rights" and "issues." No, don't use any logical thought process on this.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I am sure some sleezy lawyer and a psycological councilor can figure a good tidy reason why this happened. In the meantime, another small child's life is snuffed out. But be careful, don't jump to conclusions.   ::MonkeyWaa::

amen... ::MonkeyNoNo::



WELCOME BIRDGURL!!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 03, 2009, 07:12:38 PM
BIRDGURL, a sad time to be joining us, but welcome anyway.  ::MonkeyCheer2::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 03, 2009, 07:14:57 PM
BIRDGURL, a sad time to be joining us, but welcome anyway.  ::MonkeyCheer2::

Yes WELCOME!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cherjers on August 03, 2009, 07:20:08 PM
Thanks for the updates, how very sad, prayers for Robert's family  ::MonkeyAngel::
  Well I am not praying for the mother-she should have been in jail for smashing her baby head and causing a skull fracture.  The Judge that let her walk free- his picture should be posted in every news paper-the judge that gave her visitation  right along side two judges without a brain in their head ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cece on August 03, 2009, 07:20:28 PM
Sure, sure! Don't jump to conclusions. Just because the mom and her live-in both have histories. Mom cracking her baby's head open, and her live in can't even be near her small daughter and shouldn't even be living there in the first place.. No, don't jump to conclusions! They have their "rights" and "issues." No, don't use any logical thought process on this.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I am sure some sleezy lawyer and a psycological councilor can figure a good tidy reason why this happened. In the meantime, another small child's life is snuffed out. But be careful, don't jump to conclusions.   ::MonkeyWaa::

You are so right Fanny Mae.  I know we aren't supposed to jump to conclusions, but my emotions have led me in this same direction.  Thank you for saying this.

And when is this going to stop with our precious children?

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: birdgurl on August 03, 2009, 07:23:57 PM
BIRDGURL, a sad time to be joining us, but welcome anyway.  ::MonkeyCheer2::

thanx for such a warm welcome fanny! i am more of a lurker usually, but this one really bothers me. so many issues here ... i do believe that this is an epidemic...so many children just deleted i just dont understand. i am unable to have kids so i guess this kind of stuff really gets me ticked ! at what point did human life become disposable? i dont remember things being like this when i was growing up...it was not commonplace to just kill children like it is just no big deal...i worry where all of this is going ultimately, is there anything that can be done to stop this? i feel so helpless just sitting glued to my laptop watching this stuff just going nonstop...so many cases that one couldnt even begin to read them all... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cece on August 03, 2009, 07:24:00 PM
Welcome Birdgurl!!!

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/GREETINGS/FlowerCart.gif)

(So sorry it is under such sad circumstances).   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: birdgurl on August 03, 2009, 07:25:20 PM
BIRDGURL, a sad time to be joining us, but welcome anyway.  ::MonkeyCheer2::

Yes WELCOME!
thanx leroy, nice to meet you too  ::MonkeyWink::



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: birdgurl on August 03, 2009, 07:27:27 PM
Welcome Birdgurl!!!

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/GREETINGS/FlowerCart.gif)

(So sorry it is under such sad circumstances).   ::MonkeyAngel::

hello cece, where did you get those pretty blue birds? i havent found too many bird things...


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 03, 2009, 07:27:38 PM
KBOI670: Boise Police say they will have a press conference this evening regarding the search for missing 8-year old Robert Manwill.
6 minutes ago from web

http://twitter.com/search?q=robert%20manwill


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 07:28:26 PM
 KUNA - A body has been pulled from an area canal - and a briefing related to the disappearance of Robert Manwill has been cancelled.

Just after 1:30 p.m., police responded to the New York Canal in the area of Deer Flat and Stewart St. in the Kuna area.

The Ada County Coroner is on the scene, and police say the person is dead. The coroner has not confirmed the sex, age or identity of the body, though dispatchers did tell KTVB that initial reports say the body was that of a male juvenile. The coroner said just after 5 p.m. that his office has not yet made a positive identification on the body.

Dispatchers tell us no other children have been reported missing today.

A news conference is likely to be held tonight according to police, and 30-40 minutes notice will be given.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0309-kuna_canal_body.a50d15f2.html



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 03, 2009, 07:29:10 PM
BIRDGURL, a sad time to be joining us, but welcome anyway.  ::MonkeyCheer2::
WELCOME BIRDGURL   ::MonkeyCheer2::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 07:30:04 PM
Welcome to the cage, birdgirl! :)


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 03, 2009, 07:30:13 PM
Thanks for the updates, how very sad, prayers for Robert's family  ::MonkeyAngel::
  Well I am not praying for the mother-she should have been in jail for smashing her baby head and causing a skull fracture.  The Judge that let her walk free- his picture should be posted in every news paper-the judge that gave her visitation  right along side two judges without a brain in their head ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::
I really wasn't including his bio mom and her boyfriend. But for the rest of the family and friends.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cece on August 03, 2009, 07:31:14 PM
Welcome Birdgurl!!!

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/GREETINGS/FlowerCart.gif)

(So sorry it is under such sad circumstances).   ::MonkeyAngel::

hello cece, where did you get those pretty blue birds? i havent found too many bird things...

I did a search on photobucket.  You may try there.  (Sorry, I'm off topic).


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 07:31:56 PM
JVM is live tonight. Beating the dead horse of MJ right now ::rolls eyes::

She did mention she would have the latest on Robert in a few.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: birdgurl on August 03, 2009, 07:32:30 PM
yes it is sad - but i truly believe robert is in a much better place where he wont ever be hurt again...and those who are responsible havent even begun to know what type of suffering lies ahead for them, there is a special place for evil people such as these two.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 07:34:53 PM
Thanks for the updates, how very sad, prayers for Robert's family  ::MonkeyAngel::
  Well I am not praying for the mother-she should have been in jail for smashing her baby head and causing a skull fracture.  The Judge that let her walk free- his picture should be posted in every news paper-the judge that gave her visitation  right along side two judges without a brain in their head ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::
I really wasn't including his bio mom and her boyfriend. But for the rest of the family and friends.

no rose, they are probably laying low. (as scum should) I wouldn't want to be them once Robert's daddy is told positively that this is his little man Robert.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cece on August 03, 2009, 07:35:08 PM
Thank you all for the updates.  Such a sad situation.  Enjoy your evening.   ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: birdgurl on August 03, 2009, 07:35:55 PM
Welcome to the cage, birdgirl! :)

thanx pink angel! im glad to be here!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tina Bee on August 03, 2009, 07:38:42 PM
Jane Valez-Mitchell on HLN just reported that a juvenile male's body has been pulled from the water today around the area where Robert went missing.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: birdgurl on August 03, 2009, 07:39:28 PM
BIRDGURL, a sad time to be joining us, but welcome anyway.  ::MonkeyCheer2::
WELCOME BIRDGURL   ::MonkeyCheer2::

thank you too no rose!  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 03, 2009, 07:43:33 PM
Welcome BIRDGURL.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 07:45:17 PM
NEWS CONFERENCE SCHEDULED FOR 6:15PM. Live on KTVB, KTVB.COM & 24/7


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on August 03, 2009, 07:46:56 PM
NEWS CONFERENCE SCHEDULED FOR 6:15PM. Live on KTVB, KTVB.COM & 24/7

That's about 30 minutes from now right?  Idaho time?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 03, 2009, 07:47:21 PM
KBOI670: Boise Police say they will have a press conference this evening regarding the search for missing 8-year old Robert Manwill.
6 minutes ago from web

http://twitter.com/search?q=robert%20manwill

Thanks Leroy.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 07:50:57 PM
NEWS CONFERENCE SCHEDULED FOR 6:15PM. Live on KTVB, KTVB.COM & 24/7

That's about 30 minutes from now right?  Idaho time?

Right klaas. They are MDT.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tina Bee on August 03, 2009, 07:52:38 PM
NEWS CONFERENCE SCHEDULED FOR 6:15PM. Live on KTVB, KTVB.COM & 24/7

This is starting to feel like the Sandra Cantu case all over again... :smt090


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 03, 2009, 07:54:15 PM
BOISE - A body has been pulled from an area canal.

Ada County Dispatchers tell Newschannel Seven, they received a report it's a male juvenile's body.

The body was pulled from a canal near Deer Flat and Cloverdale in the Kuna area.

A news conference is underway at Boise City Hall West.

KTVB.COM and NewsChannel 7 will bring you details from the conference as soon as we get them.
http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0309-drowning_victim.a50d15f2.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 07:54:51 PM
(http://www.ktvb.com/images/body-map.jpg)



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 03, 2009, 07:56:02 PM
KUNA - A body has been pulled from an area canal - and a briefing related to the disappearance of Robert Manwill has been cancelled.

Just after 1:30 p.m., police responded to the New York Canal in the area of Deer Flat and Stewart St. in the Kuna area.

The Ada County Coroner is on the scene, and police say the person is dead. The coroner has not confirmed the sex, age or identity of the body, though dispatchers did tell KTVB that initial reports say the body was that of a male juvenile. The coroner said just after 5 p.m. that his office has not yet made a positive identification on the body.

Dispatchers tell us no other children have been reported missing today.

A news conference is likely to be held tonight according to police, and 30-40 minutes notice will be given. Sign up for KTVB.COM Breaking News Alerts to be apprised of the time of the news conference.

MORE HERE>>>>> I AM HAVING BROWSER PROBS  ::MonkeyWaa::
http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0309-kuna_canal_body.a50d15f2.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 03, 2009, 07:59:17 PM
BIRDGURL, a sad time to be joining us, but welcome anyway.  ::MonkeyCheer2::

thanx for such a warm welcome fanny! i am more of a lurker usually, but this one really bothers me. so many issues here ... i do believe that this is an epidemic...so many children just deleted i just dont understand. i am unable to have kids so i guess this kind of stuff really gets me ticked ! at what point did human life become disposable? i dont remember things being like this when i was growing up...it was not commonplace to just kill children like it is just no big deal...i worry where all of this is going ultimately, is there anything that can be done to stop this? i feel so helpless just sitting glued to my laptop watching this stuff just going nonstop...so many cases that one couldnt even begin to read them all... ::MonkeyNoNo::

Welcome to SM....are we related  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 03, 2009, 08:01:15 PM
NEWS CONFERENCE SCHEDULED FOR 6:15PM. Live on KTVB, KTVB.COM & 24/7

This is starting to feel like the Sandra Cantu case all over again... :smt090

Or Nevaeh Buchannan, Haleigh Cummings, Adji Desir, Jada Justice, Tori Stafford, Caylee Anthony and on and on and on..... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 08:03:23 PM
(http://i31.tinypic.com/s6u6vc.jpg)

There is clearly access for a truck or SUV.

The news conference will confirm it is Robert but I doubt we will see any arrests until a cause of death is confirmed.

Unless there is trauma to Robert that they would be able to tell right away, that he didn't just "drown".


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on August 03, 2009, 08:07:03 PM
O/T - Birdgurl - the avatar you are using is one that another member already uses (although it's been modified some).  i was wondering if you would like this one?  A lovely girl and bird?

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/BirdGirl.jpg)


http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/BirdGirl.jpg


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 08:07:06 PM
NEWS CONFERENCE SCHEDULED FOR 6:15PM. Live on KTVB, KTVB.COM & 24/7

This is starting to feel like the Sandra Cantu case all over again... :smt090

Or Nevaeh Buchannan, Haleigh Cummings, Adji Desir, Jada Justice, Tori Stafford, Caylee Anthony and on and on and on..... ::MonkeyNoNo::

Too many missing babies, too many murdered babies and too many teddy bear memorials, and too many tiny coffins.

::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on August 03, 2009, 08:08:11 PM
(http://i31.tinypic.com/s6u6vc.jpg)

There is clearly access for a truck or SUV.

The news conference will confirm it is Robert but I doubt we will see any arrests until a cause of death is confirmed.

Unless there is trauma to Robert that they would be able to tell right away, that he didn't just "drown".

You're right Pink Angel unless of course trauma or a confession?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tina Bee on August 03, 2009, 08:09:16 PM
NEWS CONFERENCE SCHEDULED FOR 6:15PM. Live on KTVB, KTVB.COM & 24/7

This is starting to feel like the Sandra Cantu case all over again... :smt090

Or Nevaeh Buchannan, Haleigh Cummings, Adji Desir, Jada Justice, Tori Stafford, Caylee Anthony and on and on and on..... ::MonkeyNoNo::

Definitely channeling Jada Justice in the aspect of a family member who reported said child missing was actually responsible for said child's death.

A lot of these cases are similar because in the end the child was found dead, but I'm saying Sandra Cantu because they interviewed a man and dug up his backyard over the weekend because a bloodhound hit Robert's scent inside his SUV which was reported stolen 2 days before Robert's disappearance.

Here's more on that part of this search:

http://news.aol.com/article/missing-idaho-boy-robert-manwill/598436


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tina Bee on August 03, 2009, 08:10:40 PM
.....and to finish my above post:

This man who the interviewed knows Robert and his family so there's a connection.

Just like Melissa Huckaby was Sandra Cantu's playmate's mother.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 08:14:12 PM
.....and to finish my above post:

This man who the interviewed knows Robert and his family so there's a connection.

Just like Melissa Huckaby was Sandra Cantu's playmate's mother.

I don't think the man that they interviewed had anything to do with Robert's death. I think he may be covering for mom's BF though. jmo

Robert Manwill news conference live in about five minutes here:  http://tr.im/vmBa


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 03, 2009, 08:15:29 PM
presser here

http://www.ktvb.com/video/?nvid=57412&live=yes


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on August 03, 2009, 08:16:09 PM
presser here

http://www.ktvb.com/video/?nvid=57412&live=yes


Thanks Leroy


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on August 03, 2009, 08:16:54 PM
Is the presser over?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on August 03, 2009, 08:17:11 PM
Is the presser over?
Never Mind.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 03, 2009, 08:17:58 PM
everything is past tense...gotta be him


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 08:19:56 PM

::crying::

Autopsy will be done tomorrow. Apporx. the same age and size as Robert. No positive ID yet.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: birdgurl on August 03, 2009, 08:20:02 PM
O/T - Birdgurl - the avatar you are using is one that another member already uses (although it's been modified some).  i was wondering if you would like this one?  A lovely girl and bird?

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/BirdGirl.jpg)


http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/BirdGirl.jpg


oh yes! it is very nice, thank-you!  i wasnt sure if non-monkey avatars were frowned upon  ::MonkeyWink:: that one was the only one that i could find that i liked....but i will gladly use the one you are giving me....


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on August 03, 2009, 08:21:10 PM
 ::MonkeyWaa:: RIP little man. RIP.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on August 03, 2009, 08:21:23 PM
No positive ID but it looks like it's him.  Coroner hopefully will have positive ID tomorrow.  So very sad.  Same age and size as Robert.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tina Bee on August 03, 2009, 08:21:43 PM
.....and to finish my above post:

This man who the interviewed knows Robert and his family so there's a connection.

Just like Melissa Huckaby was Sandra Cantu's playmate's mother.

I don't think the man that they interviewed had anything to do with Robert's death. I think he may be covering for mom's BF though. jmo

Robert Manwill news conference live in about five minutes here:  http://tr.im/vmBa


I totally agree with you!

Hmmm...I'm thinking the body is Robert's  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 08:22:26 PM
Family is not there. Are secluded together.

At 1:28 the call came in. As Ada County was responding to the call, another call came in saying they also seen a body.

One of those citizens dived in the canal and pulled the body out after seeing it in the canal.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 03, 2009, 08:22:35 PM
No positive ID but it looks like it's him.  Coroner hopefully will have positive ID tomorrow.  So very sad.  Same age and size as Robert.

they know its him but dont want to say without positive ID   ::MonkeyWaa:: 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on August 03, 2009, 08:25:12 PM
JSM is so very sad right now. The sheriff said "the family" does that mean the mom and step dad or the "real" dad's family?

Another question, JSM doesn't know what a canal is, is it like a river? Does it flow fast or is it just for irrigation? We have a canal, but it is for looks only and it doesn't really move unless there is a storm. TIA JSM


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 03, 2009, 08:27:09 PM
On this video that was taken on July 28, you can see searchers looking along the canal area around 1:50 mins into the video.

http://www.ktvb.com/video/index.html?nvid=384228


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on August 03, 2009, 08:27:14 PM
JSM is so very sad right now. The sheriff said "the family" does that mean the mom and step dad or the "real" dad's family?

Another question, JSM doesn't know what a canal is, is it like a river? Does it flow fast or is it just for irrigation? We have a canal, but it is for looks only and it doesn't really move unless there is a storm. TIA JSM

JSM - this is what the canal looks like.  I imagine that the water will flow according to how much rain and runoff:

(http://i31.tinypic.com/s6u6vc.jpg)


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 03, 2009, 08:29:56 PM
JSM is so very sad right now. The sheriff said "the family" does that mean the mom and step dad or the "real" dad's family?

Another question, JSM doesn't know what a canal is, is it like a river? Does it flow fast or is it just for irrigation? We have a canal, but it is for looks only and it doesn't really move unless there is a storm. TIA JSM

These canals are used for irrigation for the crops of potatoes and sugar beets that are grown in the area. The water flows from the mountain areas, and is usually not very fast flowing unless there is heavy snowfall melt or sometimes rain. As I said yesterday, this is a "high desert" climate, mostly dry. JMO


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on August 03, 2009, 08:30:00 PM
On this video that was taken on July 28, you can see searchers looking along the canal area around 1:50 mins into the video.

http://www.ktvb.com/video/index.html?nvid=384228

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/CanalSearch.jpg)


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 03, 2009, 08:30:24 PM
The search for Robert Manwill: No ID on body, but same age and size of Manwill, police say
Statesman staff - Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/03/09


Deputy Chief Jim Kerns said that so far Monday officials don't have a positive ID on the body found in a canal between Boise and Kuna.

"I can tell you that the body is of a young boy, approximately the same age and size of Robert Manwill," he said.

He said after a citizen called after 1 p.m. to report the body, the first Ada County officer on the scene jumped into the canal and pulled the body out.

The Ada County Coroner is trying to identify the body of the boy, which was found in the New York canal between Boise and Kuna near Cloverdale Road and Hubbard Road.

Boise police postponed a 2 p.m. press conference scheduled update the more than a weeklong investigation in to the disappearance of the 8-year-old while investigators worked to determine whether this is connected.

The canal is about two miles southwest of a home Boise police searched Friday night — but it's also the same canal that runs less than half a mile south of the Vista Avenue apartment complex from which Manwill was reported missing.

A canal company worker said it would be possible for a body to travel from where the canal passes Vista Avenue to where a body was found Monday.


--snipped---

http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/854612.html?pageNum=10&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 03, 2009, 08:31:38 PM
O/T - Birdgurl - the avatar you are using is one that another member already uses (although it's been modified some).  i was wondering if you would like this one?  A lovely girl and bird?

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/BirdGirl.jpg)


http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/BirdGirl.jpg


oh yes! it is very nice, thank-you!  i wasnt sure if non-monkey avatars were frowned upon  ::MonkeyWink:: that one was the only one that i could find that i liked....but i will gladly use the one you are giving me....

It is a beautiful Avi.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 08:33:49 PM
UPDATE: No positive ID yet on body found in canal

06:26 PM MDT on Monday, August 3, 2009

KTVB.COM

Trevor Loucks/KTVB

A male juvenile body was found floating in this stretch of the New York Canal near Kuna.

KUNA - The body of a young boy was found in the New York Canal near Kuna Monday afternoon - and police are trying to determine if the boy is Robert Manwill, who went missing on July 24th.

Just before 1:30 p.m., a citizen called Ada County Dispatch and said there was a body floating in the canal. An Ada County Sheriff's Deputy responded to the scene and jumped into the water to pull the body from the water.

The Ada County Coroner also responded to the scene, and the person was found to be dead.

“The body is that of a young boy about the same age and size as Robert Manwill," Deputy Chief Jim Kerns said Monday night.

The coroner's office is working to make a positive identification on the body, but that determination is not expected to come until Tuesday. An autopsy will be performed on the body.

“A missing child is every family’s nightmare, and a nightmare for an entire community," Kerns said. "(This case) remains under active investigation. Detectives are working closely with the coroner’s office.”

Dispatchers tell us no other children have been reported missing today.

Manwill's family has been apprised of the development.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0309-kuna_canal_body.a50d15f2.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 03, 2009, 08:35:40 PM
I am feeling so sorry for bio dad right now


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 03, 2009, 08:37:37 PM
When will this madness stop!  When will people stop murdering children!  Why are they murdering children!  I hope they all burn for enternity


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: birdgurl on August 03, 2009, 08:39:50 PM
so, do you think that the egg donor and the bf are being secluded for their own safety? is this normal procedure to hide the caretakers of a missing child?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on August 03, 2009, 08:40:31 PM
On this video that was taken on July 28, you can see searchers looking along the canal area around 1:50 mins into the video.

http://www.ktvb.com/video/index.html?nvid=384228
Thanks Fanny.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 08:40:43 PM
http://www.ktvb.com/video/?nvid=57412&live=yes

News conference in case anyone missed it.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on August 03, 2009, 08:41:42 PM
JSM is so very sad right now. The sheriff said "the family" does that mean the mom and step dad or the "real" dad's family?

Another question, JSM doesn't know what a canal is, is it like a river? Does it flow fast or is it just for irrigation? We have a canal, but it is for looks only and it doesn't really move unless there is a storm. TIA JSM

JSM - this is what the canal looks like.  I imagine that the water will flow according to how much rain and runoff:

(http://i31.tinypic.com/s6u6vc.jpg)
Thank you Klaas. It looks pretty calm to me, not like a body could float down the river really fast. Thanks again. JSM


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 08:42:02 PM
nevermind that was the live link. sorry. I am having a moment.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 03, 2009, 08:46:30 PM
so, do you think that the egg donor and the bf are being secluded for their own safety? is this normal procedure to hide the caretakers of a missing child?

Not real sure.  but egg donor and bf have to know that people suspect them...especially after their pasts were made public.  Prolly why they have been no where to be found lately.

Certainly BPD know where they are but not sure where that is.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on August 03, 2009, 08:47:15 PM
One more stupid question, then I will shut up. Is the canal close to his mom's residence? I have a "canal" behind my apartments but it is lit up and you have to go down a slope bigger than the one in the pictures. I just wanted to know if it could be possible that he fell in and drowned?

I don't think that is what happened. TIA JSM


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 03, 2009, 08:48:44 PM
JSM is so very sad right now. The sheriff said "the family" does that mean the mom and step dad or the "real" dad's family?

Another question, JSM doesn't know what a canal is, is it like a river? Does it flow fast or is it just for irrigation? We have a canal, but it is for looks only and it doesn't really move unless there is a storm. TIA JSM

JSM - this is what the canal looks like.  I imagine that the water will flow according to how much rain and runoff:

(http://i31.tinypic.com/s6u6vc.jpg)
Thank you Klaas. It looks pretty calm to me, not like a body could float down the river really fast. Thanks again. JSM

There could be somewhat of a current, especially from the pumps that the farmers use to draw the water to their fields. But my guess is he was placed in the water pretty close to where is was found. It is getting pretty close to havest season now for the potatoes and beets, and they may not need as much water right now. JMO


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 08:50:34 PM
 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

My heart is breaking for Robert's dad right now. Imagine losing 2 of your children in one lifetime. And young Ken, Robert's brother, losing both of his siblings.

His family is living a nightmare right now, a nightmare that no family should have to live through. It's unimaginable.

Rest in peace little man. You are loved and so many care about you. I am glad you are found and am comforted a little by the fact that you have been safe in God's arms.

You deserved to be found and brought home to the family that loved you. You deserve a proper burial with dignity and respect.

You deserved so much better that what happened to you. I grieve for you tonight and I pray for your family who is in so much pain. I pray that if you have been a victim of foul play, that those that harmed you are arrested quickly and brought to justice.

I am sorry more couldn't have been done to protect you from harm.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on August 03, 2009, 08:50:39 PM
so, do you think that the egg donor and the bf are being secluded for their own safety? is this normal procedure to hide the caretakers of a missing child?
If she were my family, she better be secluded with police protection, because I would be in jail for aggravated assault or premeditated murder.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: JessStar on August 03, 2009, 08:52:42 PM
This is terrible. Heartwrenching to say the least. This poor little boy.  I'm feeling really sad right now.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 03, 2009, 08:53:59 PM
::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

My heart is breaking for Robert's dad right now. Imagine losing 2 of your children in one lifetime. And young Ken, Robert's brother, losing both of his siblings.

His family is living a nightmare right now, a nightmare that no family should have to live through. It's unimaginable.

Rest in peace little man. You are loved and so many care about you. I am glad you are found and am comforted a little by the fact that you have been safe in God's arms.

You deserved to be found and brought home to the family that loved you. You deserve a proper burial with dignity and respect.

You deserved so much better that what happened to you. I grieve for you tonight and I pray for your family who is in so much pain. I pray that if you have been a victim of foul play, that those that harmed you are arrested quickly and brought to justice.

I am sorry more couldn't have been done to protect you from harm.



Not too mention the way he lost them....horrific! 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: N2WISHN on August 03, 2009, 08:54:06 PM
One more stupid question, then I will shut up. Is the canal close to his mom's residence? I have a "canal" behind my apartments but it is lit up and you have to go down a slope bigger than the one in the pictures. I just wanted to know if it could be possible that he fell in and drowned?

I don't think that is what happened. TIA JSM



JVM said the canal was close to the friend's house that had the car stolen......She also said that it was about 10 miles from the egg donors apartment. Not sure if that's true but that's what was said on the show this evening.........


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 08:54:33 PM
One more stupid question, then I will shut up. Is the canal close to his mom's residence? I have a "canal" behind my apartments but it is lit up and you have to go down a slope bigger than the one in the pictures. I just wanted to know if it could be possible that he fell in and drowned?

I don't think that is what happened. TIA JSM

It's about 1/2 mile away. IIRC, JSM


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 03, 2009, 08:55:13 PM
One more stupid question, then I will shut up. Is the canal close to his mom's residence? I have a "canal" behind my apartments but it is lit up and you have to go down a slope bigger than the one in the pictures. I just wanted to know if it could be possible that he fell in and drowned?

I don't think that is what happened. TIA JSM



JVM said the canal was close to the friend's house that had the car stolen......She also said that it was about 10 miles from the egg donors apartment. Not sure if that's true but that's what was said on the show this evening.........

That is how I understand it as well.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 03, 2009, 08:56:50 PM
One more stupid question, then I will shut up. Is the canal close to his mom's residence? I have a "canal" behind my apartments but it is lit up and you have to go down a slope bigger than the one in the pictures. I just wanted to know if it could be possible that he fell in and drowned?

I don't think that is what happened. TIA JSM

According to what I can see, the canal is not all that close to the apartments, maybe four or five blocks past the park. Maybe KLAAS can post a screen shot of the aerials of the area. I am not real quick with it.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 08:57:55 PM
One more stupid question, then I will shut up. Is the canal close to his mom's residence? I have a "canal" behind my apartments but it is lit up and you have to go down a slope bigger than the one in the pictures. I just wanted to know if it could be possible that he fell in and drowned?

I don't think that is what happened. TIA JSM



JVM said the canal was close to the friend's house that had the car stolen......She also said that it was about 10 miles from the egg donors apartment. Not sure if that's true but that's what was said on the show this evening.........

The canal is the same one that crosses Vista Avenue less than a half-mile away from the apartment where Robert was reportedly last seen. The spot where the body was found is around 2 miles southeast from the Boise home near Five Mile Road that police searched Friday night. Around 14 miles away from the mom's apartment.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on August 03, 2009, 08:58:37 PM
JSM is so very sad right now. The sheriff said "the family" does that mean the mom and step dad or the "real" dad's family?

Another question, JSM doesn't know what a canal is, is it like a river? Does it flow fast or is it just for irrigation? We have a canal, but it is for looks only and it doesn't really move unless there is a storm. TIA JSM

JSM - this is what the canal looks like.  I imagine that the water will flow according to how much rain and runoff:

(http://i31.tinypic.com/s6u6vc.jpg)
Thank you Klaas. It looks pretty calm to me, not like a body could float down the river really fast. Thanks again. JSM

There could be somewhat of a current, especially from the pumps that the farmers use to draw the water to their fields. But my guess is he was placed in the water pretty close to where is was found. It is getting pretty close to havest season now for the potatoes and beets, and they may not need as much water right now. JMO
Thanks Fanny. It just seems odd that two people saw a body floating and one pulled him out. If he had been in the water since he went missing, it wouldn't have been a pretty site for the person that pulled him out.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: birdgurl on August 03, 2009, 08:58:49 PM
i gotta say that the bio dad & family are in my prayers...the chances of losing two children at the hands of two different wives is like lightening striking in the same place twice. i also wonder if there is some kind of mental sickness that would cause a woman that so obviously hates children to have a baby with every man she is with??? it does not excuse her actions - but i guess it would go a long way in helping me understand that there was a reason for any of this...


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on August 03, 2009, 09:00:04 PM
One more stupid question, then I will shut up. Is the canal close to his mom's residence? I have a "canal" behind my apartments but it is lit up and you have to go down a slope bigger than the one in the pictures. I just wanted to know if it could be possible that he fell in and drowned?

I don't think that is what happened. TIA JSM



JVM said the canal was close to the friend's house that had the car stolen......She also said that it was about 10 miles from the egg donors apartment. Not sure if that's true but that's what was said on the show this evening.........
Thanks, so it wasn't close enough for him to fall in on a walk.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: birdgurl on August 03, 2009, 09:00:33 PM
When will this madness stop!  When will people stop murdering children!  Why are they murdering children!  I hope they all burn for enternity

i can really relate to how your feeling! ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cookie on August 03, 2009, 09:01:16 PM
this is awful...so sad for this little boy...and the family who really cared about him...

are there any other children still in the home of the "mother" and the bf?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 09:04:50 PM
i gotta say that the bio dad & family are in my prayers...the chances of losing two children at the hands of two different wives is like lightening striking in the same place twice. i also wonder if there is some kind of mental sickness that would cause a woman that so obviously hates children to have a baby with every man she is with??? it does not excuse her actions - but i guess it would go a long way in helping me understand that there was a reason for any of this...

There is no reason. She slept around and got knocked up. She had too many children and she was an abusive mom. It happens all the time. The board is full of mother's that kill their children. Most children that are killed are killed by family members.

That the court let her have unsupervised visitation of any of her offspring after she fractured the skull of an eight month old, has every bit to do with Robert being dead tonight as the mom and the BF.

jmo


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on August 03, 2009, 09:05:08 PM
Thanks for all the answers regarding the canal. I was just worried that maybe it was dark and he was walking along it and slipped in and couldn't get out.

That is NOT what I think happened BTW. Just trying to be objective here. JSM


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: N2WISHN on August 03, 2009, 09:05:17 PM
KUNA - The body of a young boy was found in the New York Canal near Kuna Monday afternoon - and police are trying to determine if the boy is Robert Manwill, who went missing on July 24th.

Just before 1:30 p.m., a citizen called Ada County Dispatch and said there was a body floating in the canal. An Ada County Sheriff's Deputy responded to the scene and jumped into the water to pull the body from the water.

The Ada County Coroner also responded to the scene, and the person was found to be dead.

“The body is that of a young boy about the same age and size as Robert Manwill," Deputy Chief Jim Kerns said Monday night.

The coroner's office is working to make a positive identification on the body, but that determination is not expected to come until Tuesday. An autopsy will be performed on the body.

“A missing child is every family’s nightmare, and a nightmare for an entire community," Kerns said. "(This case) remains under active investigation. Detectives are working closely with the coroner’s office.”

Dispatchers tell us no other children have been reported missing today.

Manwill's family has been apprised of the development.


 
KTVB

Police crews responded to the scene of a body found in a canal Monday afternoon.

The New York Canal, where the body was found, connects an area near the apartment complex where Manwill was reported missing - and the scene where today's body was found, however police officials tell NewsChannel 7 it is not certain the body would be able to get from one point to another.

Grates like this one are placed into the water throughout the canal - though this one was in the open position Monday afternoon.

There are at least five grates in the water between the two scenes that could block objects from passing through. The canal measures about 14 miles between the apartment area and the location where the body was found. (See map below).

KTVB has attempted to reach canal officials, but they have not returned our calls.

Police initially said last week that they had ruled out the canal as a search location

KTVB.COM and NewsChannel 7 will bring you additional details as soon as we get them from our crew on the scene.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0309-kuna_canal_body.a50d15f2.html



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 09:05:57 PM
this is awful...so sad for this little boy...and the family who really cared about him...

are there any other children still in the home of the "mother" and the bf?

No thank god! And let's hope she isn't pregnant.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cookie on August 03, 2009, 09:09:58 PM
this is awful...so sad for this little boy...and the family who really cared about him...

are there any other children still in the home of the "mother" and the bf?

No thank god! And let's hope she isn't pregnant.

thanks Pinky!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 03, 2009, 09:10:20 PM
(http://i715.photobucket.com/albums/ww157/Fannymae65/boise.jpg)

Arrow is apartments. Canal is in the lower part of picture.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 09:10:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxnTToQA74A

press conference


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on August 03, 2009, 09:10:51 PM
One more stupid question, then I will shut up. Is the canal close to his mom's residence? I have a "canal" behind my apartments but it is lit up and you have to go down a slope bigger than the one in the pictures. I just wanted to know if it could be possible that he fell in and drowned?

I don't think that is what happened. TIA JSM



JVM said the canal was close to the friend's house that had the car stolen......She also said that it was about 10 miles from the egg donors apartment. Not sure if that's true but that's what was said on the show this evening.........

The article above says the canal was actually only 1/2 a mile from the apartment Robert's mom lived at and 2 miles from the house that was searched.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cherjers on August 03, 2009, 09:11:39 PM
Thanks for the updates, how very sad, prayers for Robert's family  ::MonkeyAngel::
  Well I am not praying for the mother-she should have been in jail for smashing her baby head and causing a skull fracture.  The Judge that let her walk free- his picture should be posted in every news paper-the judge that gave her visitation  right along side two judges without a brain in their head ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::
I really wasn't including his bio mom and her boyfriend. But for the rest of the family and friends.
  No Rose I didnt think you were-including the bio mom- sorry if I offended you.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 03, 2009, 09:13:55 PM
Thanks for the updates, how very sad, prayers for Robert's family  ::MonkeyAngel::
  Well I am not praying for the mother-she should have been in jail for smashing her baby head and causing a skull fracture.  The Judge that let her walk free- his picture should be posted in every news paper-the judge that gave her visitation  right along side two judges without a brain in their head ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::
I really wasn't including his bio mom and her boyfriend. But for the rest of the family and friends.
  No Rose I didnt think you were-including the bio mom- sorry if I offended you.
No you didn't offend me  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cherjers on August 03, 2009, 09:16:32 PM
i gotta say that the bio dad & family are in my prayers...the chances of losing two children at the hands of two different wives is like lightening striking in the same place twice. i also wonder if there is some kind of mental sickness that would cause a woman that so obviously hates children to have a baby with every man she is with??? it does not excuse her actions - but i guess it would go a long way in helping me understand that there was a reason for any of this...

There is no reason. She slept around and got knocked up. She had too many children and she was an abusive mom. It happens all the time. The board is full of mother's that kill their children. Most children that are killed are killed by family members.

That the court let her have unsupervised visitation of any of her offspring after she fractured the skull of an eight month old, has every bit to do with Robert being dead tonight as the mom and the BF.

jmo
  Why do judges think that when a women gives birth to a child -that give her the right to abuse that child.  If I took a baby I dint know and fracture his head would I go to Jail-YES so if you are the child mother that gives the right ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Anna on August 03, 2009, 09:19:41 PM
 ::MonkeyWaa::

 ::MonkeyWaa::

 ::MonkeyWaa::

Reminds me of Sandra Cantu with the canal and all.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 09:26:44 PM
(http://i715.photobucket.com/albums/ww157/Fannymae65/boise.jpg)

Arrow is apartments. Canal is in the lower part of picture.

Thanks Fanny!

(http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Robert%20Manwill/?action-view&current=023-2.jpg)
Body found between 2 canal grates. One near Cloverdale Rd, one near S Eagle Rd.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 09:29:45 PM
Body found between 2 canal grates. One near Cloverdale Rd, one near S Eagle Rd. picture:

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Robert%20Manwill/023-2.jpg)


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: atlanta_mom on August 03, 2009, 09:32:06 PM
Thanks for all the answers regarding the canal. I was just worried that maybe it was dark and he was walking along it and slipped in and couldn't get out.

That is NOT what I think happened BTW. Just trying to be objective here. JSM

I guess we are all hoping that a parent wouldn't do this to their own child.  Unfortunately, deep down we know that it happens more often within the family.  I wish they would make parents pass some type of psychological test to have a child.  Or atleast, if you lose a child due to negligence or abuse --they should sterilize you.  Harsh, huh?   ::MonkeyNoNo::

 I hope he didn't suffer. 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 03, 2009, 09:33:28 PM
Body found between 2 canal grates. One near Cloverdale Rd, one near S Eagle Rd. picture:

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Robert%20Manwill/023-2.jpg)

Does anyone know if they were down? They are usually down when there is a current flowing to catch the debris. Even if they weren't, I have a feeling he was place in the water in that general vicinity. JMO


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on August 03, 2009, 09:34:17 PM
(http://i715.photobucket.com/albums/ww157/Fannymae65/boise.jpg)

Arrow is apartments. Canal is in the lower part of picture.
Thanks Fanny. You are awesome.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on August 03, 2009, 09:37:30 PM
Thanks for all the answers regarding the canal. I was just worried that maybe it was dark and he was walking along it and slipped in and couldn't get out.

That is NOT what I think happened BTW. Just trying to be objective here. JSM

I guess we are all hoping that a parent wouldn't do this to their own child.  Unfortunately, deep down we know that it happens more often within the family.  I wish they would make parents pass some type of psychological test to have a child.  Or atleast, if you lose a child due to negligence or abuse --they should sterilize you.  Harsh, huh?   ::MonkeyNoNo::

 I hope he didn't suffer. 
I was hoping his "mom" had nothing to do with this, but all fingers point towards her, especially after I read that the BF father said she was so harsh on the child and her bashing in the skull of an infant shows to me she has major anger problems.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 03, 2009, 09:38:48 PM
Sure, sure! Don't jump to conclusions. Just because the mom and her live-in both have histories. Mom cracking her baby's head open, and her live in can't even be near her small daughter and shouldn't even be living there in the first place.. No, don't jump to conclusions! They have their "rights" and "issues." No, don't use any logical thought process on this.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I am sure some sleezy lawyer and a psycological councilor can figure a good tidy reason why this happened. In the meantime, another small child's life is snuffed out. But be careful, don't jump to conclusions.   ::MonkeyWaa::

Most often than not "logic dictates".

I am angry.  Adults are meant to be the protector of children ... especially parents.

Janet


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 09:39:27 PM
Melissa Jenkins left the Boise police headquarters in tears Monday afternoon, and later police officials confirmed why: The body found in a canal between Boise and Kuna Monday is of a boy about the same age and size of her missing 8-year-old son, Robert Manwill.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/854612.html

No picture, no source. I wonder where they got the information that she left the police station crying.

I will not comment any further because I am afraid of what I might say.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Kat_Gram on August 03, 2009, 09:40:50 PM
Ty for the updates and maps Fanny and others.
Who ever gave that bio egg donor visitation needs to lose their job.
Why would these persons even want visitation ? I suppose it will all come out with some sort of CFS and perhaps a judge who issued the order, but it is too late for this litttle man Robert as JSM calls him. It happens here too frequently for anyone's liking and it happens again and again.   


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 03, 2009, 09:41:17 PM
Body found between 2 canal grates. One near Cloverdale Rd, one near S Eagle Rd. picture:

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Robert%20Manwill/023-2.jpg)

If you follow the canal further down the route, you can see it goes into more remote areas. The bright green half circles, circles and rectangles are where the farmers are using the water to irrigate the fields. Sometimes they use the circular turning kind of sprayers that are huge and pump a lot of water. Some times they use other types. But you can see the contrasts of the high desert and the irrigated fields. If he had gone much futher, it would have probably been more and more unlikely he would have been found.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 09:41:59 PM
Body found between 2 canal grates. One near Cloverdale Rd, one near S Eagle Rd. picture:

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Robert%20Manwill/023-2.jpg)

Does anyone know if they were down? They are usually down when there is a current flowing to catch the debris. Even if they weren't, I have a feeling he was place in the water in that general vicinity. JMO

No idea hon. I agree with you about him being placed. I said that earlier.

Five grates. I doubt they were all open for him to pass through.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tamikosmom on August 03, 2009, 09:42:57 PM
Melissa Jenkins left the Boise police headquarters in tears Monday afternoon, and later police officials confirmed why: The body found in a canal between Boise and Kuna Monday is of a boy about the same age and size of her missing 8-year-old son, Robert Manwill.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/854612.html

No picture, no source. I wonder where they got the information that she left the police station crying.

I will not comment any further because I am afraid of what I might say.


 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 03, 2009, 09:44:33 PM
(http://i715.photobucket.com/albums/ww157/Fannymae65/boise.jpg)

Arrow is apartments. Canal is in the lower part of picture.
Thanks Fanny. You are awesome.

I am slow, but I am learning. TOWNADA!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: birdgurl on August 03, 2009, 09:45:39 PM
i gotta say that the bio dad & family are in my prayers...the chances of losing two children at the hands of two different wives is like lightening striking in the same place twice. i also wonder if there is some kind of mental sickness that would cause a woman that so obviously hates children to have a baby with every man she is with??? it does not excuse her actions - but i guess it would go a long way in helping me understand that there was a reason for any of this...

There is no reason. She slept around and got knocked up. She had too many children and she was an abusive mom. It happens all the time. The board is full of mother's that kill their children. Most children that are killed are killed by family members.

That the court let her have unsupervised visitation of any of her offspring after she fractured the skull of an eight month old, has every bit to do with Robert being dead tonight as the mom and the BF.

jmo

yes pink, unfortunately i know you are right, the statistics show these things...  the court system is a whole other problem, i think someone should be held responsible for this little boy losing his life...there is no excuse for these two people to have had any children in their care whether they were biological or step children....they couldnt even support them financially - the grandpa was giving them money to help them get by...


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 03, 2009, 09:46:25 PM
Melissa Jenkins left the Boise police headquarters in tears Monday afternoon, and later police officials confirmed why: The body found in a canal between Boise and Kuna Monday is of a boy about the same age and size of her missing 8-year-old son, Robert Manwill.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/854612.html

No picture, no source. I wonder where they got the information that she left the police station crying.

I will not comment any further because I am afraid of what I might say.


Well, I'll say it. I am shocked that she was allowed to leave the police station!  Oh, I forgot! Don't jump to conclusions........ ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 03, 2009, 09:47:42 PM
Melissa Jenkins left the Boise police headquarters in tears Monday afternoon, and later police officials confirmed why: The body found in a canal between Boise and Kuna Monday is of a boy about the same age and size of her missing 8-year-old son, Robert Manwill.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/854612.html

No picture, no source. I wonder where they got the information that she left the police station crying.

I will not comment any further because I am afraid of what I might say.


Well, I'll say it. I am shocked that she was allowed to leave the police station!  Oh, I forgot! Don't jump to conclusions........ ::MonkeyDevil2::
And where is the boyfriend was he at the police station also?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 09:49:51 PM
Melissa Jenkins left the Boise police headquarters in tears Monday afternoon, and later police officials confirmed why: The body found in a canal between Boise and Kuna Monday is of a boy about the same age and size of her missing 8-year-old son, Robert Manwill.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/854612.html

No picture, no source. I wonder where they got the information that she left the police station crying.

I will not comment any further because I am afraid of what I might say.


Well, I'll say it. I am shocked that she was allowed to leave the police station!  Oh, I forgot! Don't jump to conclusions........ ::MonkeyDevil2::
And where is the boyfriend was he at the police station also?

dunno! they don't say.  if not he will be soon. jmo


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on August 03, 2009, 09:53:08 PM
Melissa Jenkins left the Boise police headquarters in tears Monday afternoon, and later police officials confirmed why: The body found in a canal between Boise and Kuna Monday is of a boy about the same age and size of her missing 8-year-old son, Robert Manwill.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/854612.html

No picture, no source. I wonder where they got the information that she left the police station crying.

I will not comment any further because I am afraid of what I might say.


Well, I'll say it. I am shocked that she was allowed to leave the police station!  Oh, I forgot! Don't jump to conclusions........ ::MonkeyDevil2::
Fanny why do you say don't jump to conclusions? TIA JSM


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 09:54:28 PM
Bless the first responding deputy's heart that dived in and pulled the body out of the canal. I am sure he/she will be haunted for a long time, if not forever by this. Keep them in your prayers tonight too.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 03, 2009, 09:55:28 PM
Melissa Jenkins left the Boise police headquarters in tears Monday afternoon, and later police officials confirmed why: The body found in a canal between Boise and Kuna Monday is of a boy about the same age and size of her missing 8-year-old son, Robert Manwill.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/854612.html

No picture, no source. I wonder where they got the information that she left the police station crying.

I will not comment any further because I am afraid of what I might say.


Well, I'll say it. I am shocked that she was allowed to leave the police station!  Oh, I forgot! Don't jump to conclusions........ ::MonkeyDevil2::
And where is the boyfriend was he at the police station also?

dunno! they don't say.  if not he will be soon. jmo

Maybe he is still nursing his "bad back." I still think that is what grampa meant.  I have tried to find his interview again, but I gave up. I though I remembered him saying something about his son being on the sofa as he "was down in the back." Getting rid of an 8 yr old is hard work, I suppose. JMO


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 09:56:59 PM
Melissa Jenkins left the Boise police headquarters in tears Monday afternoon, and later police officials confirmed why: The body found in a canal between Boise and Kuna Monday is of a boy about the same age and size of her missing 8-year-old son, Robert Manwill.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/854612.html

No picture, no source. I wonder where they got the information that she left the police station crying.

I will not comment any further because I am afraid of what I might say.


Well, I'll say it. I am shocked that she was allowed to leave the police station!  Oh, I forgot! Don't jump to conclusions........ ::MonkeyDevil2::
Fanny why do you say don't jump to conclusions? TIA JSM

There was an "expert" article posted a few pages back that said people shouldn't jump to conclusions in respects to the mom and BF being guilty, just because of their past records and that they were the ones that last had Robert in their care.

It's sarcasm, in regards to the article.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 03, 2009, 09:57:11 PM
Holy crap.......good thing he didn't flow to the Dam  ::MonkeyEek:: There would be nothing left of the poor child!!
http://boise.onethousandthingstodo.com/2008/05/27/diversion-dam-and-the-new-york-canal-boise-idaho/
(http://www.onethousandthingstodo.com/post_images/052608_74083/thumbs/pt_2008-divdam-spillway-1.jpg)


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 10:01:49 PM
Melissa Jenkins left the Boise police headquarters in tears Monday afternoon, and later police officials confirmed why: The body found in a canal between Boise and Kuna Monday is of a boy about the same age and size of her missing 8-year-old son, Robert Manwill.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/854612.html

No picture, no source. I wonder where they got the information that she left the police station crying.

I will not comment any further because I am afraid of what I might say.


Well, I'll say it. I am shocked that she was allowed to leave the police station!  Oh, I forgot! Don't jump to conclusions........ ::MonkeyDevil2::
And where is the boyfriend was he at the police station also?

dunno! they don't say.  if not he will be soon. jmo

Maybe he is still nursing his "bad back." I still think that is what grampa meant.  I have tried to find his interview again, but I gave up. I though I remembered him saying something about his son being on the sofa as he "was down in the back." Getting rid of an 8 yr old is hard work, I suppose. JMO

LOL!

That's not what the article said.
The BF said Robert was down in the back. Meaning in back of the apartments playing.
----------
Daniel Ehrlick Sr., a former Marine who served in Vietnam, said he thought he saw Robert on the day he was reported missing when he stopped by Ehrlick Jr.'s apartment to drop off money to help pay bills.

"(Ehrlick Jr.) told me that Robert was down in the back. When I came to the door, I don't know if it was then that I spotted it, or I spotted it before, but I spotted another boy that looked just like Robert with a white T-shirt on," Ehrlick Sr. said.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/102/story/852598.html



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: atlanta_mom on August 03, 2009, 10:02:11 PM
Bless the first responding deputy's heart that dived in and pulled the body out of the canal. I am sure he/she will be haunted for a long time, if not forever by this. Keep them in your prayers tonight too.


Yeah,  I would think deep down he thought it was Robert.  He is the only missing child.  Very brave and very caring.  This community obviously cares a great deal and wants answers to what happened to Robert.   


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 03, 2009, 10:03:04 PM
Holy crap.......good thing he didn't flow to the Dam  ::MonkeyEek:: There would be nothing left of the poor child!!
http://boise.onethousandthingstodo.com/2008/05/27/diversion-dam-and-the-new-york-canal-boise-idaho/
(http://www.onethousandthingstodo.com/post_images/052608_74083/thumbs/pt_2008-divdam-spillway-1.jpg)

NUTT, I am pretty sure that is where the water is coming down from the mountains and is diverted to the canal. The canal flows generally south, although it does meander.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: atlanta_mom on August 03, 2009, 10:03:39 PM
What color did they initially say Robert was wearing when he went missing?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 03, 2009, 10:03:55 PM
OH! Thanks!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 10:05:54 PM
What color did they initially say Robert was wearing when he went missing?

Investigators have said Robert was wearing a blue Superman T-shirt at the time of his disappearance.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 03, 2009, 10:06:09 PM
What color did they initially say Robert was wearing when he went missing?

either a brown shirt with the words, "Andy don't need no Mic" or a blue shirt with a superman symbol on the front


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 10:08:52 PM
What color did they initially say Robert was wearing when he went missing?

Investigators have said Robert was wearing a blue Superman T-shirt at the time of his disappearance.

Although the first reports were that he was possibly wearing a brown shirt with writing on the back "Andy don't need no Mic" or a blue shirt with a superman symbol on the front. He had on blue jeans and black shoes.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 03, 2009, 10:09:54 PM
Melissa Jenkins left the Boise police headquarters in tears Monday afternoon, and later police officials confirmed why: The body found in a canal between Boise and Kuna Monday is of a boy about the same age and size of her missing 8-year-old son, Robert Manwill.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/854612.html

No picture, no source. I wonder where they got the information that she left the police station crying.

I will not comment any further because I am afraid of what I might say.


Well, I'll say it. I am shocked that she was allowed to leave the police station!  Oh, I forgot! Don't jump to conclusions........ ::MonkeyDevil2::
And where is the boyfriend was he at the police station also?

dunno! they don't say.  if not he will be soon. jmo

Maybe he is still nursing his "bad back." I still think that is what grampa meant.  I have tried to find his interview again, but I gave up. I though I remembered him saying something about his son being on the sofa as he "was down in the back." Getting rid of an 8 yr old is hard work, I suppose. JMO

LOL!

That's not what the article said.
The BF said Robert was down in the back. Meaning in back of the apartments playing.
----------
Daniel Ehrlick Sr., a former Marine who served in Vietnam, said he thought he saw Robert on the day he was reported missing when he stopped by Ehrlick Jr.'s apartment to drop off money to help pay bills.

"(Ehrlick Jr.) told me that Robert was down in the back. When I came to the door, I don't know if it was then that I spotted it, or I spotted it before, but I spotted another boy that looked just like Robert with a white T-shirt on," Ehrlick Sr. said.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/102/story/852598.html



OK, I am glad you found it. I concede. I can quit worrying about it.  I still wonder why the old man had to bring him money to pay the bills.
I also wonder if it was a half-hearted attempt to say he was there that day when he wasn't really sure. Do we know who really saw Robert the last time and when?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tina Bee on August 03, 2009, 10:12:29 PM
Robert's father has been through so much. My prayers go out to him and his family tonight.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 03, 2009, 10:16:29 PM
Bless the first responding deputy's heart that dived in and pulled the body out of the canal. I am sure he/she will be haunted for a long time, if not forever by this. Keep them in your prayers tonight too.


Yeah,  I would think deep down he thought it was Robert.  He is the only missing child.  Very brave and very caring.  This community obviously cares a great deal and wants answers to what happened to Robert.   

More than likely it was a farmer or a farm worker that was passing by. JMO


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 03, 2009, 10:17:30 PM
i just caught up.... :smt102 :smt096 :smt089


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 10:17:31 PM
Melissa Jenkins left the Boise police headquarters in tears Monday afternoon, and later police officials confirmed why: The body found in a canal between Boise and Kuna Monday is of a boy about the same age and size of her missing 8-year-old son, Robert Manwill.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/854612.html

No picture, no source. I wonder where they got the information that she left the police station crying.

I will not comment any further because I am afraid of what I might say.


Well, I'll say it. I am shocked that she was allowed to leave the police station!  Oh, I forgot! Don't jump to conclusions........ ::MonkeyDevil2::
And where is the boyfriend was he at the police station also?

dunno! they don't say.  if not he will be soon. jmo

Maybe he is still nursing his "bad back." I still think that is what grampa meant.  I have tried to find his interview again, but I gave up. I though I remembered him saying something about his son being on the sofa as he "was down in the back." Getting rid of an 8 yr old is hard work, I suppose. JMO

LOL!

That's not what the article said.
The BF said Robert was down in the back. Meaning in back of the apartments playing.
----------
Daniel Ehrlick Sr., a former Marine who served in Vietnam, said he thought he saw Robert on the day he was reported missing when he stopped by Ehrlick Jr.'s apartment to drop off money to help pay bills.

"(Ehrlick Jr.) told me that Robert was down in the back. When I came to the door, I don't know if it was then that I spotted it, or I spotted it before, but I spotted another boy that looked just like Robert with a white T-shirt on," Ehrlick Sr. said.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/102/story/852598.html



OK, I am glad you found it. I concede. I can quit worrying about it.  I still wonder why the old man had to bring him money to pay the bills.
I also wonder if it was a half-hearted attempt to say he was there that day when he wasn't really sure. Do we know who really saw Robert the last time and when?

I am glad I was able to find it and clear it up for you. I tried to earlier but you must have missed it. This thread has moved so quickly the past couple days.

He says "he believes" he saw someone that looked like Robert, which is why were speculating when he said that when was Robert saw last by someone other than the mom or the boyfriend. When did his daddy last talk to him on the phone? He could have been a day or even two before he was reported missing. It coincides with his friend's "truck" going missing.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 10:22:15 PM
Melissa Jenkins left the Boise police headquarters in tears Monday afternoon, and later police officials confirmed why: The body found in a canal between Boise and Kuna Monday is of a boy about the same age and size of her missing 8-year-old son, Robert Manwill.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/854612.html

No picture, no source. I wonder where they got the information that she left the police station crying.

I will not comment any further because I am afraid of what I might say.


Well, I'll say it. I am shocked that she was allowed to leave the police station!  Oh, I forgot! Don't jump to conclusions........ ::MonkeyDevil2::
And where is the boyfriend was he at the police station also?

dunno! they don't say.  if not he will be soon. jmo

Maybe he is still nursing his "bad back." I still think that is what grampa meant.  I have tried to find his interview again, but I gave up. I though I remembered him saying something about his son being on the sofa as he "was down in the back." Getting rid of an 8 yr old is hard work, I suppose. JMO

LOL!

That's not what the article said.
The BF said Robert was down in the back. Meaning in back of the apartments playing.
----------
Daniel Ehrlick Sr., a former Marine who served in Vietnam, said he thought he saw Robert on the day he was reported missing when he stopped by Ehrlick Jr.'s apartment to drop off money to help pay bills.

"(Ehrlick Jr.) told me that Robert was down in the back. When I came to the door, I don't know if it was then that I spotted it, or I spotted it before, but I spotted another boy that looked just like Robert with a white T-shirt on," Ehrlick Sr. said.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/102/story/852598.html



OK, I am glad you found it. I concede. I can quit worrying about it.  I still wonder why the old man had to bring him money to pay the bills.
I also wonder if it was a half-hearted attempt to say he was there that day when he wasn't really sure. Do we know who really saw Robert the last time and when?

I am glad I was able to find it and clear it up for you. I tried to earlier but you must have missed it. This thread has moved so quickly the past couple days.

He says "he believes" he saw someone that looked like Robert, which is why were speculating when he said that when was Robert saw last by someone other than the mom or the boyfriend. When did his daddy last talk to him on the phone? He could have been a day or even two before he was reported missing. It coincides with his friend's "truck" going missing.

Could have been dead and yes I agree with you, I think dad was either a.) attempting to give his son the benefit of the doubt or 2.) lend credibility to Robert actually being alive on Friday.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 03, 2009, 10:27:25 PM
It has been another sad day, when a missing child is moved from the missing thread, to the found dead thread. We have seen this occur over and over, and the shock, anger and pain never gets any better. We can rail, and cry, and ask why, but it continues on and on with no answers in sight. Each and every one takes a toll on us, but even more so for the families and friends that have to endure this forever.

 I know this was not in God's plan. He must be very disappointed in the humans he has intrusted this earth and these precious lives to. He gave us all choice. Why some make such bad choices, is something I cannot comprehend. I am not perfect, Lord knows I have made my mistakes. But the taking of another life is not one of them I have made. Who am I to judge? But I do.

 I know God has a forgiving heart and can understand what we cannot. I wish I had a forgiving heart. My heart does not get hardened to this agony, it just feels it more each time. What a waste of perfectly beautiful human souls.   ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 10:28:52 PM
Body of a juvenile boy found in New York Canal

Posted: Aug 3, 2009 04:09 PM


Boise, Idaho - The body of a boy was found in rural Ada County early this afternoon.

Police have not ID'd the body as of yet. What we do know is that this boy was found in the New York Canal which also runs next to Robert's apartment complex near Vista. As a crow flies it's about 8 miles, or 14 miles miles of water way. The people I spoke to said it is entirely possible that a body could have made it all the way out here. There are grates but they are large.

A disturbing scene at the New york canal this afternoon, as police pulled the life-less body of a little boy out of the water. Police tell us two people saw the child floating and called 911. An Ada County Deputy rushed to the scene, jumped in, and pulled the child out of the water. Speculation is swirling that it could be Robert Manwill, although police have yet to confirm that. They did say however, the boy matched the age and size of Robert. A press conference on the missing boy, originally scheduled for 2:00 P.M was cancelled just minutes before getting started. Spokeswoman Lynn Hightower confirmed it was because they were investigating this body. Police had most of the area around Deerflat Road just West of Cloverdale cordoned off as they worked the scene. Roberts family remained clear of the canal, and stayed at the police station while all this happened. The coroner arrived at the canal just 40 minutes later and took the child away to be identified. The family has been notified that the body was found in the canal. An autopsy will be performed by the coroner tomorrow afternoon.


http://www.fox12idaho.com/Global/story.asp?S=10839836&nav=menu439_4


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 03, 2009, 10:30:20 PM
in regard to the 'murder' friend...i wonder if he got 'murder' from LE or from another source?

(the guy who's SUV was 'stolen')


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 10:32:19 PM
It has been another sad day, when a missing child is moved from the missing thread, to the found dead thread. We have seen this occur over and over, and the shock, anger and pain never gets any better. We can rail, and cry, and ask why, but it continues on and on with no answers in sight. Each and every one takes a toll on us, but even more so for the families and friends that have to endure this forever.

 I know this was not in God's plan. He must be very disappointed in the humans he has intrusted this earth and these precious lives to. He gave us all choice. Why some make such bad choices, is something I cannot comprehend. I am not perfect, Lord knows I have made my mistakes. But the taking of another life is not one of them I have made. Who am I to judge? But I do.

 I know God has a forgiving heart and can understand what we cannot. I wish I had a forgiving heart. My heart does not get hardened to this agony, it just feels it more each time. What a waste of perfectly beautiful human souls.   ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyAngel::

Well said Ms. Fanny and I agree with you 100 percent. It never gets any easier.

God bless our little man Robert. A little man with little angel wings now.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 10:37:00 PM
in regard to the 'murder' friend...i wonder if he got 'murder' from LE or from another source?

(the guy who's SUV was 'stolen')
slip of the tounge. either from guilt from being involved or guilt for what he knows and is covering up. jmo


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 03, 2009, 10:49:28 PM
anyone involved in this need to be held accountable....
another  ::MonkeyAngel::
 :smt089


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 03, 2009, 10:59:53 PM
Evening Monkeys,

I have been trying to keep myself updated by the day on Robert. I see that they have found a little boy who drowned ( hours ago) that they believe it is Robert.

Has anyone heard that it Truly is Robert ?

I just glanced at the posts ...... I swear this is just Awful.
Have they suspected foul play?  That he did not just run off and fall into the water on his own?
That he may have been passed prior to being in the water ? Anything yet?
This poor kid had the deck stacked against him by his Mother anyway.
So incredibly sad.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 11:04:52 PM
Evening Monkeys,

I have been trying to keep myself updated by the day on Robert. I see that they have found a little boy who drowned ( hours ago) that they believe it is Robert.

Has anyone heard that it Truly is Robert ?

I just glanced at the posts ...... I swear this is just Awful.
Have they suspected foul play?  That he did not just run off and fall into the water on his own?
That he may have been passed prior to being in the water ? Anything yet?
This poor kid had the deck stacked against him by his Mother anyway.
So incredibly sad.


The body matches Robert's height and age Deenie. That is all LE will confirm tonight. Autopsy will be done tomorrow.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 03, 2009, 11:06:16 PM
What color did they initially say Robert was wearing when he went missing?

Investigators have said Robert was wearing a blue Superman T-shirt at the time of his disappearance.

Although the first reports were that he was possibly wearing a brown shirt with writing on the back "Andy don't need no Mic" or a blue shirt with a superman symbol on the front. He had on blue jeans and black shoes.

Pink have a question for you, I know you have been up on all the news within this case daily.

How can "his Mother" now know for sure what he was wearing the last time she saw him?

Wasn't he to go to a Birthday Party? Would she not take him to the party and or be aware of the moments prior to him to attend the Birthday Party ?... Or am I asking too much from this Woman to know ... (( Me no like her)) ..



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tina Bee on August 03, 2009, 11:07:47 PM
in regard to the 'murder' friend...i wonder if he got 'murder' from LE or from another source?

(the guy who's SUV was 'stolen')

I believe the SUV dude is involved in all this. On Jane Valez-Mitchell tonight they played a clip him explaining away why cops questioned him and dug up his backyard and he sounded like he was faking bewilderment.

Totally suspicious IMO.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 03, 2009, 11:08:15 PM
Evening Monkeys,

I have been trying to keep myself updated by the day on Robert. I see that they have found a little boy who drowned ( hours ago) that they believe it is Robert.

Has anyone heard that it Truly is Robert ?

I just glanced at the posts ...... I swear this is just Awful.
Have they suspected foul play?  That he did not just run off and fall into the water on his own?
That he may have been passed prior to being in the water ? Anything yet?
This poor kid had the deck stacked against him by his Mother anyway.
So incredibly sad.


The body matches Robert's height and age Deenie. That is all LE will confirm tonight. Autopsy will be done tomorrow.
Whew.. this is so Sad. I thought possibly this child was one that would be found Safe.
 ::MonkeyNoNo::
Poor little Man. 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tina Bee on August 03, 2009, 11:10:10 PM
What color did they initially say Robert was wearing when he went missing?

Investigators have said Robert was wearing a blue Superman T-shirt at the time of his disappearance.

Although the first reports were that he was possibly wearing a brown shirt with writing on the back "Andy don't need no Mic" or a blue shirt with a superman symbol on the front. He had on blue jeans and black shoes.

Pink have a question for you, I know you have been up on all the news within this case daily.

How can "his Mother" now know for sure what he was wearing the last time she saw him?

Wasn't he to go to a Birthday Party? Would she not take him to the party and or be aware of the moments prior to him to attend the Birthday Party ?... Or am I asking too much from this Woman to know ... (( Me no like her)) ..



Hello Deenie,

I'm wondering the about the same things when it comes to his "mother." Why in the world would an 8 year old be allowed to walk to a party alone at 9:30 PM. The sun is gone at that hour even in the mountains so from the beginning the timeline made no sense.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 11:13:05 PM
What color did they initially say Robert was wearing when he went missing?

Investigators have said Robert was wearing a blue Superman T-shirt at the time of his disappearance.

Although the first reports were that he was possibly wearing a brown shirt with writing on the back "Andy don't need no Mic" or a blue shirt with a superman symbol on the front. He had on blue jeans and black shoes.

Pink have a question for you, I know you have been up on all the news within this case daily.

How can "his Mother" now know for sure what he was wearing the last time she saw him?

Wasn't he to go to a Birthday Party? Would she not take him to the party and or be aware of the moments prior to him to attend the Birthday Party ?... Or am I asking too much from this Woman to know ... (( Me no like her)) ..



Deenie, I don't know. The first reports were wishy washy about the shirts. Then LE said in news conference that they had the shirt pinned down to blue w/Superman logo.  Some reports have said the mother was at work and the BF was watching Robert. The birthday party was in the first reports but later the cops pulled back from that, saying there was no evidence of any birthday party.

They have been very tight lipped about the actual timeline. When asked many times by reporters, all they would confirm that Robert was reported missing just after 10 pm.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: luvmyboys on August 03, 2009, 11:13:38 PM
Hi everyone. I am just now able to post since I heard the aweful news. I really lost my breath I could barely breath. I am so sick to death of hearing senceless acts again children by the hands of adults. I have a question. I have read a few times that this will be the 2nd child of the bio dad that has died. The 1st child that died was that child's mom the same mom as robert. And how old was that child and how did he die. Ty


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 03, 2009, 11:14:34 PM
in regard to the 'murder' friend...i wonder if he got 'murder' from LE or from another source?

(the guy who's SUV was 'stolen')

I believe the SUV dude is involved in all this. On Jane Valez-Mitchell tonight they played a clip him explaining away why cops questioned him and dug up his backyard and he sounded like he was faking bewilderment.

Totally suspicious IMO.

 :smt059 Hi Ms Tina Bee

I really think this child lived a life with many characters coming in and out of his world. I think Mother plain doesn't give a pppffft of who comes into contact with her nor her children. Obviously her track record concludes that.   
I don't know who SUV dude is. I have not watched JVM in a few days I am just sick and tired of all the MJ updates. ( Yes I loved him) but enough is enough. NG has lost my thoughts too. Her being on Vaca and Pushing her book ..has made me turn her off too. So forgive me if I am not knowing who some of these Hinkey people are.

I am sure LE knows who is who. Let us hope.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 03, 2009, 11:16:17 PM
Hi everyone. I am just now able to post since I heard the aweful news. I really lost my breath I could barely breath. I am so sick to death of hearing senceless acts again children by the hands of adults. I have a question. I have read a few times that this will be the 2nd child of the bio dad that has died. The 1st child that died was that child's mom the same mom as robert. And how old was that child and how did he die. Ty
The first child was 4 yrs old - and was the child of Robert's Bio Dads and first wife. She stabbed her 4 yr to death ....... gag me.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 11:18:16 PM

Robert's mother tells police he was playing outside near their home before he went missing. Local police with the help of the FBI have been searching night and day hoping to bring some relief to a mother waiting in anguish.

"Please, please help me find my son. I need him to come home", says Melissa Jenkins.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5793.0



Though some initial reports indicated the boy had wanted to go to a birthday party, police said they had no evidence of that.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/846836.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 03, 2009, 11:21:07 PM
Hi everyone. I am just now able to post since I heard the aweful news. I really lost my breath I could barely breath. I am so sick to death of hearing senceless acts again children by the hands of adults. I have a question. I have read a few times that this will be the 2nd child of the bio dad that has died. The 1st child that died was that child's mom the same mom as robert. And how old was that child and how did he die. Ty
The first child was 4 yrs old - and was the child of Robert's Bio Dads and first wife. She stabbed her 4 yr to death ....... gag me.
Then there is Roberts Mother who cracked the skull of her infant son last year. She served a short sentence and probation. She walked basically. She has lost custody of him.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/273/story/853332.html

This Woman makes me sick.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 03, 2009, 11:22:49 PM

Robert's mother tells police he was playing outside near their home before he went missing. Local police with the help of the FBI have been searching night and day hoping to bring some relief to a mother waiting in anguish.

"Please, please help me find my son. I need him to come home", says Melissa Jenkins.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5793.0



Though some initial reports indicated the boy had wanted to go to a birthday party, police said they had no evidence of that.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/846836.html

Pink what happened to the Two Teenage Girls who were randomly found by a searcher and they recognized his photo. They said he was at the park with older boys ..they recalled him being very shy and withdrawn. I will have to find the link.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 11:28:37 PM

Robert's mother tells police he was playing outside near their home before he went missing. Local police with the help of the FBI have been searching night and day hoping to bring some relief to a mother waiting in anguish.

"Please, please help me find my son. I need him to come home", says Melissa Jenkins.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5793.0



Though some initial reports indicated the boy had wanted to go to a birthday party, police said they had no evidence of that.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/846836.html

Pink what happened to the Two Teenage Girls who were randomly found by a searcher and they recognized his photo. They said he was at the park with older boys ..they recalled him being very shy and withdrawn. I will have to find the link.



I think they thought they saw Robert and saw another little boy. The park was quite far from the house. IIRC


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: luvmyboys on August 03, 2009, 11:29:59 PM
Omg. Wth. Let me guess she pleaded insane. The courts bought it and she is free out in the puiblic to do what ever she wants. It would not surprise me. I have very little faith in the justice system these days. I am so so very angry. At the sh*t that moms and dads do to there children. Imo they need to make a state only for people who kill rape and all of the very bad stuff that grown ass people do to children. And just leave them there to rot. Is there a link to the story about the bio dads 1st sons murder.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 03, 2009, 11:36:47 PM
I know I read that within the News that two teenage girls recognized his photo. A woman who was in the search party came up on them and showed the photo and They did recognize him.
I cannot find it on the net. Dang it. 

The other thing that has struck me strange since this little boy was reported missing is that Mom has not stepped up. That her Sister was the one in the media begging for assistance.  :smt115 Reminds me of Nevaeh Buchanan. Her mother never came forward yet was a running mouth to everyone and anyone " Not Me, I am not involved" yet never stepped up for Neveah.
And once Neveah was found - she simply faded away from the Media. Never has said FIND who ever did this.... she shut her mouth and locked her doors.

I wonder if Ms Jenkins is going to come out to the media now? And ask for help to find out what happened to Robert.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 11:41:53 PM
Omg. Wth. Let me guess she pleaded insane. The courts bought it and she is free out in the puiblic to do what ever she wants. It would not surprise me. I have very little faith in the justice system these days. I am so so very angry. At the sh*t that moms and dads do to there children. Imo they need to make a state only for people who kill rape and all of the very bad stuff that grown ass people do to children. And just leave them there to rot. Is there a link to the story about the bio dads 1st sons murder.


http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/848900.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 03, 2009, 11:41:54 PM
Omg. Wth. Let me guess she pleaded insane. The courts bought it and she is free out in the puiblic to do what ever she wants. It would not surprise me. I have very little faith in the justice system these days. I am so so very angry. At the sh*t that moms and dads do to there children. Imo they need to make a state only for people who kill rape and all of the very bad stuff that grown ass people do to children. And just leave them there to rot. Is there a link to the story about the bio dads 1st sons murder.

Luvmyboys
 ::MonkeyNoNo::
http://www.idahostatesman.com/BOISE/story/848900.html
On the fifth day of an exhaustive search for a missing Boise boy, court documents revealed a family tale of abuse, tragedy and more.

Robert Manwill's mother is on probation for fracturing the skull of Robert's infant half brother, a boy the state removed from her custody.

Robert's mother's boyfriend has been convicted of burglary, battery and possession of drug paraphernalia, and is banned by the courts from being alone with Robert's half sister.

Robert's father, meanwhile, has already lost a son. In 1993, his first wife stabbed their 4-year-old boy in the chest. She spent 10 years in a federal prison after pleading guilty to voluntary manslaughter.

Boise police won't talk about the family or the details contained in the court documents.

---------
God Bless Robert and I am sorry he was born into this family. This child " I can't even imagine" what he has witnessed in his short lived life. He is now forever safe. Does not make it right.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 03, 2009, 11:44:29 PM

Robert's mother tells police he was playing outside near their home before he went missing. Local police with the help of the FBI have been searching night and day hoping to bring some relief to a mother waiting in anguish.

"Please, please help me find my son. I need him to come home", says Melissa Jenkins.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5793.0



Though some initial reports indicated the boy had wanted to go to a birthday party, police said they had no evidence of that.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/846836.html

Pink what happened to the Two Teenage Girls who were randomly found by a searcher and they recognized his photo. They said he was at the park with older boys ..they recalled him being very shy and withdrawn. I will have to find the link.



I think they thought they saw Robert and saw another little boy. The park was quite far from the house. IIRC
Thank you Pink


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 03, 2009, 11:49:19 PM
I know I read that within the News that two teenage girls recognized his photo. A woman who was in the search party came up on them and showed the photo and They did recognize him.
I cannot find it on the net. Dang it. 

The other thing that has struck me strange since this little boy was reported missing is that Mom has not stepped up. That her Sister was the one in the media begging for assistance.  :smt115 Reminds me of Nevaeh Buchanan. Her mother never came forward yet was a running mouth to everyone and anyone " Not Me, I am not involved" yet never stepped up for Neveah.
And once Neveah was found - she simply faded away from the Media. Never has said FIND who ever did this.... she shut her mouth and locked her doors.

I wonder if Ms Jenkins is going to come out to the media now? And ask for help to find out what happened to Robert.




"This kid, we thought he was at the park yesterday with us, well not with us with us. Which park? Ann Morrison," said some teenage girls.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-jul2509-missing_boy.76b69882.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 03, 2009, 11:51:52 PM
I have to say this .. because I feel I have too.

I am not usually a person that wishes bad things.. But Can we say that Robert's Mom needs to " STOP" having children. That it is court ordered that she have her baby maker shut down.

I swear I don't understand WHY people continue to have children so they can be abused and thrown into the system for basic survival  - for Protection from their own Mother. If you have a track record that every child you have is taken away from you ..and or abused by you, or by the people you entertain within your lifestyle ( the reason why they are taken away) should it not " Be Clear" that you were not meant to have kids?

 :gaah:


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 03, 2009, 11:59:12 PM
I have to say this .. because I feel I have too.

I am not usually a person that wishes bad things.. But Can we say that Robert's Mom needs to " STOP" having children. That it is court ordered that she have her baby maker shut down.

I swear I don't understand WHY people continue to have children so they can be abused and thrown into the system for basic survival  - for Protection from their own Mother. If you have a track record that every child you have is taken away from you ..and or abused by you, or by the people you entertain within your lifestyle ( the reason why they are taken away) should it not " Be Clear" that you were not meant to have kids?

 :gaah:

I couldn't agree more


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 12:01:28 AM
Omg. Wth. Let me guess she pleaded insane. The courts bought it and she is free out in the puiblic to do what ever she wants. It would not surprise me. I have very little faith in the justice system these days. I am so so very angry. At the sh*t that moms and dads do to there children. Imo they need to make a state only for people who kill rape and all of the very bad stuff that grown ass people do to children. And just leave them there to rot. Is there a link to the story about the bio dads 1st sons murder.

Luvmyboys
 ::MonkeyNoNo::
http://www.idahostatesman.com/BOISE/story/848900.html
On the fifth day of an exhaustive search for a missing Boise boy, court documents revealed a family tale of abuse, tragedy and more.

Robert Manwill's mother is on probation for fracturing the skull of Robert's infant half brother, a boy the state removed from her custody.

Robert's mother's boyfriend has been convicted of burglary, battery and possession of drug paraphernalia, and is banned by the courts from being alone with Robert's half sister.

Robert's father, meanwhile, has already lost a son. In 1993, his first wife stabbed their 4-year-old boy in the chest. She spent 10 years in a federal prison after pleading guilty to voluntary manslaughter.

Boise police won't talk about the family or the details contained in the court documents.

---------
God Bless Robert and I am sorry he was born into this family. This child " I can't even imagine" what he has witnessed in his short lived life. He is now forever safe. Does not make it right.



Did you scroll all the way down?

Robert Manwill's father, Charles Manwill, has had custody of the boy since January 2008, according to court records.

The records show Jenkins was admitted to the hospital that month for early pregnancy complications and was unable to care for Robert, who has lived with his dad in New Plymouth ever since. Jenkins has visitation rights, and the boy was visiting her the night he disappeared.

Almost 15 years earlier, Manwill was an officer at Fort Polk Military Base in Louisiana, in his early 20s and married to a woman named Silke Fatma Manwill.

In November 1993, according to federal court documents and Louisiana newspaper reports, Silke Manwill "upon sudden quarrel and in the heat of passion" stabbed their 4-year-old son, Michael, in the chest.

She was charged with first-degree murder; that charge was dropped when she pleaded guilty to voluntary manslaughter.

She served 10 years in federal prison and was released in 2002, federal documents show. Her sentence included five more years of supervised release.

-----------------------

10 years for killing your child. ::shakes head::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 12:02:32 AM
I have to say this .. because I feel I have too.

I am not usually a person that wishes bad things.. But Can we say that Robert's Mom needs to " STOP" having children. That it is court ordered that she have her baby maker shut down.

I swear I don't understand WHY people continue to have children so they can be abused and thrown into the system for basic survival  - for Protection from their own Mother. If you have a track record that every child you have is taken away from you ..and or abused by you, or by the people you entertain within your lifestyle ( the reason why they are taken away) should it not " Be Clear" that you were not meant to have kids?

 :gaah:

I couldn't agree more

me either.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: luvmyboys on August 04, 2009, 12:04:18 AM
So tje bio dad who's 1st wife stabbed to death there 4 year old child only served 4 years. No wth. That is not right she should never b able to get out of prison. And I agree moms that murder or hurt or neglect there children should be mad to get FIXED. Omg I am so irate right now. I just want to punch something. UgHhhhhh


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: luvmyboys on August 04, 2009, 12:05:38 AM
Sorry I mean 10 years. That is nothing. For killing your baby


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 12:05:51 AM
btw Deenie, I found your park article you were digging for. it's on the last post of the last page. :)

The park was about 10 miles from the apartment complex.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: atlanta_mom on August 04, 2009, 12:07:29 AM
Omg. Wth. Let me guess she pleaded insane. The courts bought it and she is free out in the puiblic to do what ever she wants. It would not surprise me. I have very little faith in the justice system these days. I am so so very angry. At the sh*t that moms and dads do to there children. Imo they need to make a state only for people who kill rape and all of the very bad stuff that grown ass people do to children. And just leave them there to rot. Is there a link to the story about the bio dads 1st sons murder.

Luvmyboys
 ::MonkeyNoNo::
http://www.idahostatesman.com/BOISE/story/848900.html
On the fifth day of an exhaustive search for a missing Boise boy, court documents revealed a family tale of abuse, tragedy and more.

Robert Manwill's mother is on probation for fracturing the skull of Robert's infant half brother, a boy the state removed from her custody.

Robert's mother's boyfriend has been convicted of burglary, battery and possession of drug paraphernalia, and is banned by the courts from being alone with Robert's half sister.

Robert's father, meanwhile, has already lost a son. In 1993, his first wife stabbed their 4-year-old boy in the chest. She spent 10 years in a federal prison after pleading guilty to voluntary manslaughter.

Boise police won't talk about the family or the details contained in the court documents.

---------
God Bless Robert and I am sorry he was born into this family. This child " I can't even imagine" what he has witnessed in his short lived life. He is now forever safe. Does not make it right.



Did you scroll all the way down?

Robert Manwill's father, Charles Manwill, has had custody of the boy since January 2008, according to court records.

The records show Jenkins was admitted to the hospital that month for early pregnancy complications and was unable to care for Robert, who has lived with his dad in New Plymouth ever since. Jenkins has visitation rights, and the boy was visiting her the night he disappeared.

Almost 15 years earlier, Manwill was an officer at Fort Polk Military Base in Louisiana, in his early 20s and married to a woman named Silke Fatma Manwill.

In November 1993, according to federal court documents and Louisiana newspaper reports, Silke Manwill "upon sudden quarrel and in the heat of passion" stabbed their 4-year-old son, Michael, in the chest.

She was charged with first-degree murder; that charge was dropped when she pleaded guilty to voluntary manslaughter.

She served 10 years in federal prison and was released in 2002, federal documents show. Her sentence included five more years of supervised release.

-----------------------

10 years for killing your child. ::shakes head::



Killing your own child "in a heat of passion".   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Kill yourself or your husband---but never an innocent child.  I hope it haunts her every minute of every day.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: luvmyboys on August 04, 2009, 12:08:43 AM
And why was it voluntary manslaughter and not murder. Can anyone answer that for me.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tina Bee on August 04, 2009, 12:12:04 AM
in regard to the 'murder' friend...i wonder if he got 'murder' from LE or from another source?

(the guy who's SUV was 'stolen')

I believe the SUV dude is involved in all this. On Jane Valez-Mitchell tonight they played a clip him explaining away why cops questioned him and dug up his backyard and he sounded like he was faking bewilderment.

Totally suspicious IMO.

 :smt059 Hi Ms Tina Bee

I really think this child lived a life with many characters coming in and out of his world. I think Mother plain doesn't give a pppffft of who comes into contact with her nor her children. Obviously her track record concludes that.   
I don't know who SUV dude is. I have not watched JVM in a few days I am just sick and tired of all the MJ updates. ( Yes I loved him) but enough is enough. NG has lost my thoughts too. Her being on Vaca and Pushing her book ..has made me turn her off too. So forgive me if I am not knowing who some of these Hinkey people are.

I am sure LE knows who is who. Let us hope.

The last 10 minutes of JVM was devoted to Robert's case. The other 50 were non-stop MJ. I'm sick of it.

Yea NG is on vacation and her book pushing...ugh. She's non-stop MJ too. There's been nothing about tot mama lately.

SUV dude just popped up today. Apparently a bloodhound picked up Robert's scent on his SUV which was convieniently stolen 2 days prior to Robert going missing. SUV dude is a friend and know Robert's family somehow (not too sure).

I think the mom is a complete nutcase. I feel sorry for Robert's father. Losing his 2nd child to another senseless act the was probably perpetrated by the mother of his child.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 04, 2009, 12:16:03 AM
Amen Leroy

And Pink ...... Who " Stabs" their Child ?? OMG that is Brain SNAP
And I agree too ... Ten Years ?? If you can stab and murder your Four year innocent child.. and claim it was an act of heated passion due to a fight with your spouse ... ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

In November 1993, according to federal court documents and Louisiana newspaper reports, Silke Manwill "upon sudden quarrel and in the heat of passion" stabbed their 4-year-old son, Michael, in the chest. She was charged with first-degree murder; that charge was dropped when she pleaded guilty to voluntary manslaughter. She served 10 years in federal prison and was released in 2002, federal documents show. Her sentence included five more years of supervised release.


What makes her fit to be in Society " ever" again ?? Can we say Nothing to lose. She has been out of prison since 2002 as it says in the article. Wonder what she is up to?
I found she lives in Washington State.
http://www.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&

Not sure if this is her: http://cid-586933b12ef4fa5e.profile.live.com/
If it his her ... love the Icon  ::MonkeyEek::



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 04, 2009, 12:18:58 AM
Tina Bee & everyone

Do you think it is Strange that Robert was found today ( we believe it is him) after the Nationwide " America's Most Wanted" was aired this last Saturday?

That someone freaked and dumped him ?



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: atlanta_mom on August 04, 2009, 12:25:12 AM
Tina Bee & everyone

Do you think it is Strange that Robert was found today ( we believe it is him) after the Nationwide " America's Most Wanted" was aired this last Saturday?

That someone freaked and dumped him ?



I don't know what to think.  I am wondering what the autopsy will show.  I hope they will be able to estimate a time of death (since he was in the water so long).  That whole SUV stolen and returned has me wondering--sounds unlikely. 

Is Idaho a death penalty state?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: luvmyboys on August 04, 2009, 12:26:43 AM
There should be a law. Tyhat if u kill a child and get charged for 1st degree murder. U can not plea at all. I mean come on. It is what it is.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 12:27:05 AM
Tina Bee & everyone

Do you think it is Strange that Robert was found today ( we believe it is him) after the Nationwide " America's Most Wanted" was aired this last Saturday?

That someone freaked and dumped him ?



Quite possible someone freaked. I doubt AMW had anything to with it though.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 04, 2009, 12:27:37 AM
Tina Bee & everyone

Do you think it is Strange that Robert was found today ( we believe it is him) after the Nationwide " America's Most Wanted" was aired this last Saturday?

That someone freaked and dumped him ?



I don't know what to think.  I am wondering what the autopsy will show.  I hope they will be able to estimate a time of death (since he was in the water so long).  That whole SUV stolen and returned has me wondering--sounds unlikely. 

Is Idaho a death penalty state?
Yes I guess it is 

This is the link of all those who are on " Death Row" in Idaho.

http://www.corr.state.id.us/facts/death_row.htm


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 12:30:01 AM
And why was it voluntary manslaughter and not murder. Can anyone answer that for me.

Why was Robert's mom allowed to plead down to injury to a child when she was charged with felony child abuse?

The system that is in place to serve and protect the children, is letting them down as much as their parents. They are putting this lambs back into the lions den.

The judge that ordered unsupervised visitation for Robert with his mother, has Robert's blood on his/her hands tonight.

jmo


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 04, 2009, 12:30:05 AM
I am just caught up and my heart is aching.  I prayer for the first responder who found this child. 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 12:33:05 AM
There should be a law. Tyhat if u kill a child and get charged for 1st degree murder. U can not plea at all. I mean come on. It is what it is.

I agree. A child's life is worth more than a plea deal.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 04, 2009, 12:33:20 AM
Tina Bee & everyone

Do you think it is Strange that Robert was found today ( we believe it is him) after the Nationwide " America's Most Wanted" was aired this last Saturday?

That someone freaked and dumped him ?



Quite possible someone freaked. I doubt AMW had anything to with it though.
The key will be his approximated time of death. Is it not more difficult to determine that -" IF" a body has been submerged in water?
I swear I just saw it on one of the cable Crime shows. That offer true statistics within Murder investigations. 
That once a body is in water it makes everything more difficult within autopsy. I may be wrong.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 04, 2009, 12:33:32 AM
I am just caught up and my heart is aching.  I prayer for the first responder who found this child. 

self edit


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 04, 2009, 12:34:18 AM
And why was it voluntary manslaughter and not murder. Can anyone answer that for me.

Why was Robert's mom allowed to plead down to injury to a child when she was charged with felony child abuse?

The system that is in place to serve and protect the children, is letting them down as much as their parents. They are putting this lambs back into the lions den.

The judge that ordered unsupervised visitation for Robert with his mother, has Robert's blood on his/her hands tonight.

jmo
I totally agree with You - Bravo Pink


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tina Bee on August 04, 2009, 12:34:30 AM
Tina Bee & everyone

Do you think it is Strange that Robert was found today ( we believe it is him) after the Nationwide " America's Most Wanted" was aired this last Saturday?

That someone freaked and dumped him ?



I think so. I don't think Robert's body (it hasn't been confirmed) was out there in the canal for that long. Someone would've spotted it. He was probably dumped (for a lack of a better word) early this morning.

I think SUV dude is the link that'll crack this case wide open.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 04, 2009, 12:34:56 AM
I am just caught up and my heart is aching.  I prayer for the first responder who found this child. 

self edit
Northern No worries.  I feel for him too. Gawd I cant even fathom it.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 12:35:20 AM
Amen Leroy

And Pink ...... Who " Stabs" their Child ?? OMG that is Brain SNAP
And I agree too ... Ten Years ?? If you can stab and murder your Four year innocent child.. and claim it was an act of heated passion due to a fight with your spouse ... ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

In November 1993, according to federal court documents and Louisiana newspaper reports, Silke Manwill "upon sudden quarrel and in the heat of passion" stabbed their 4-year-old son, Michael, in the chest. She was charged with first-degree murder; that charge was dropped when she pleaded guilty to voluntary manslaughter. She served 10 years in federal prison and was released in 2002, federal documents show. Her sentence included five more years of supervised release.


What makes her fit to be in Society " ever" again ?? Can we say Nothing to lose. She has been out of prison since 2002 as it says in the article. Wonder what she is up to?
I found she lives in Washington State.
http://www.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&

Not sure if this is her: http://cid-586933b12ef4fa5e.profile.live.com/
If it his her ... love the Icon  ::MonkeyEek::



Bet you 10 of Casey's jailhouse twinkies she has had more babies.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 12:38:16 AM
Tina Bee & everyone

Do you think it is Strange that Robert was found today ( we believe it is him) after the Nationwide " America's Most Wanted" was aired this last Saturday?

That someone freaked and dumped him ?



I think so. I don't think Robert's body (it hasn't been confirmed) was out there in the canal for that long. Someone would've spotted it. He was probably dumped (for a lack of a better word) early this morning.

I think SUV dude is the link that'll crack this case wide open.

Like I said SUV dude is covering for the parents. His story was too convenient that he just happened to have a truck missing around the time Robert went missing.

He is friend's with Danny's brother.  (Danny is the BF)


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 04, 2009, 12:40:37 AM
Tina Bee & everyone

Do you think it is Strange that Robert was found today ( we believe it is him) after the Nationwide " America's Most Wanted" was aired this last Saturday?

That someone freaked and dumped him ?



Quite possible someone freaked. I doubt AMW had anything to with it though.
The key will be his approximated time of death. Is it not more difficult to determine that -" IF" a body has been submerged in water?
I swear I just saw it on one of the cable Crime shows. That offer true statistics within Murder investigations. 
That once a body is in water it makes everything more difficult within autopsy. I may be wrong.


Does anyone know how deep the canal may be and if the water is warm or cold? 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 04, 2009, 12:41:16 AM
Amen Leroy

And Pink ...... Who " Stabs" their Child ?? OMG that is Brain SNAP
And I agree too ... Ten Years ?? If you can stab and murder your Four year innocent child.. and claim it was an act of heated passion due to a fight with your spouse ... ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

In November 1993, according to federal court documents and Louisiana newspaper reports, Silke Manwill "upon sudden quarrel and in the heat of passion" stabbed their 4-year-old son, Michael, in the chest. She was charged with first-degree murder; that charge was dropped when she pleaded guilty to voluntary manslaughter. She served 10 years in federal prison and was released in 2002, federal documents show. Her sentence included five more years of supervised release.


What makes her fit to be in Society " ever" again ?? Can we say Nothing to lose. She has been out of prison since 2002 as it says in the article. Wonder what she is up to?
I found she lives in Washington State.
http://www.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&

Not sure if this is her: http://cid-586933b12ef4fa5e.profile.live.com/
If it his her ... love the Icon  ::MonkeyEek::



Bet you 10 of Casey's jailhouse twinkies she has had more babies.
Could very well Be Pink.
That is the thing you can see here. Within this Woman she Moved after her sentence to Washington ( when ??) but I am sure that she has started a new little life for herself ..and has found new relationships with men .. etc. Who thinks that when they get a new neighbor they were in Prison for 10 years and murdered their child. She is still young, this is true.
And I am sure since was able to skate on her own sentence " Murder" she is a " Mindful" player of the system. Its called No Conscience.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: atlanta_mom on August 04, 2009, 12:44:28 AM
Tina Bee & everyone

Do you think it is Strange that Robert was found today ( we believe it is him) after the Nationwide " America's Most Wanted" was aired this last Saturday?

That someone freaked and dumped him ?



Did he report the truck missing to police (when it went missing)?  Just seems suspicious--He knows something.  He is trying to distance himself from the SUV and he accidently says "murder" in an interview about Robert. 

Oh yeah, I am trying not to jump to conclusions.

I better go to bed, got work in the morning.  Goodnight guys.  Hopefully Robert is being hugged by an angel  ::MonkeyAngel::

I think so. I don't think Robert's body (it hasn't been confirmed) was out there in the canal for that long. Someone would've spotted it. He was probably dumped (for a lack of a better word) early this morning.

I think SUV dude is the link that'll crack this case wide open.

Like I said SUV dude is covering for the parents. His story was too convenient that he just happened to have a truck missing around the time Robert went missing.

He is friend's with Danny's brother.  (Danny is the BF)


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 04, 2009, 12:46:20 AM
Tina Bee & everyone

Do you think it is Strange that Robert was found today ( we believe it is him) after the Nationwide " America's Most Wanted" was aired this last Saturday?

That someone freaked and dumped him ?



Quite possible someone freaked. I doubt AMW had anything to with it though.
The key will be his approximated time of death. Is it not more difficult to determine that -" IF" a body has been submerged in water?
I swear I just saw it on one of the cable Crime shows. That offer true statistics within Murder investigations. 
That once a body is in water it makes everything more difficult within autopsy. I may be wrong.


Does anyone know how deep the canal may be and if the water is warm or cold? 
Northern a photo of the Canal

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0309-kuna_canal_body.a50d15f2.html

Makes me think of our Sandra Cantu  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 12:53:39 AM
Tina Bee & everyone

Do you think it is Strange that Robert was found today ( we believe it is him) after the Nationwide " America's Most Wanted" was aired this last Saturday?

That someone freaked and dumped him ?



Quite possible someone freaked. I doubt AMW had anything to with it though.
The key will be his approximated time of death. Is it not more difficult to determine that -" IF" a body has been submerged in water?
I swear I just saw it on one of the cable Crime shows. That offer true statistics within Murder investigations. 
That once a body is in water it makes everything more difficult within autopsy. I may be wrong.


Does anyone know how deep the canal may be and if the water is warm or cold? 
Northern a photo of the Canal

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0309-kuna_canal_body.a50d15f2.html

Makes me think of our Sandra Cantu  ::MonkeyAngel::

It sorta does, although our Sandra was in an irrigation ditch, did it have movement?

This canal flows, it has current. Which is why the grates are in place, to catch debris flowing down it.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 04, 2009, 12:53:59 AM
Videos of today and the search for Robert

I cannot get One of them to load/play. Why I don't know.

http://www.ktvb.com/video/index.html?nvid=385791


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 04, 2009, 12:56:00 AM
Nut posted this earlier  - photo of the Dam

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5793.840


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 04, 2009, 01:02:35 AM
Nut posted this earlier  - photo of the Dam

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5793.840

Thank you Deenie.  Do we know if the child was found upstream or downstream of the dam?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 04, 2009, 01:08:26 AM
Nut posted this earlier  - photo of the Dam

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5793.840

Thank you Deenie.  Do we know if the child was found upstream or downstream of the dam?
I am not sure Northern.  :smt049 I don't know. This is just so sad. This little One. I hope that " All" that are within this case are now backtracking and fine tooth combing every one and every possible lead. This child did not drown on his own. I think he was put into the water after he died. That is my gut.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 01:10:13 AM
Holy crap.......good thing he didn't flow to the Dam  ::MonkeyEek:: There would be nothing left of the poor child!!
http://boise.onethousandthingstodo.com/2008/05/27/diversion-dam-and-the-new-york-canal-boise-idaho/
(http://www.onethousandthingstodo.com/post_images/052608_74083/thumbs/pt_2008-divdam-spillway-1.jpg)

NUTT, I am pretty sure that is where the water is coming down from the mountains and is diverted to the canal. The canal flows generally south, although it does meander.

Bumping for Northern Rose. I don't know if this answers your question, hon.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 01:12:29 AM
pink angel, Deenie, Northern Rose and 8 Guests are viewing this topic.

Goodnight you two and the 8 lookyloos. :)

I am going to go and try to sleep.

Bless our little man Robert and prayers for his family.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 04, 2009, 01:14:52 AM
I found through many talks with family and documents after my Father passed away that I have many relatives that were Cherokee Indian. I found this Prayer. 
-----------------------


For Robert

Precious Child   ::MonkeyAngel::

Cherokee Prayer Blessing

May the Warm Winds of Heaven

Blow softly upon your house.

May the Great Spirit

Bless all who enter there.

May your Mocassins

Make happy tracks

in many snows,

and may the Rainbow

Always touch your shoulder.



God Bless you Little Man


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 04, 2009, 01:15:51 AM
pink angel, Deenie, Northern Rose and 8 Guests are viewing this topic.

Goodnight you two and the 8 lookyloos. :)

I am going to go and try to sleep.

Bless our little man Robert and prayers for his family.
Good night Pink  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 04, 2009, 01:19:05 AM
Nut posted this earlier  - photo of the Dam

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5793.840

Thank you Deenie.  Do we know if the child was found upstream or downstream of the dam?
I am not sure Northern.  :smt049 I don't know. This is just so sad. This little One. I hope that " All" that are within this case are now backtracking and fine tooth combing every one and every possible lead. This child did not drown on his own. I think he was put into the water after he died. That is my gut.


The autopsy will be able to tell LE that in a hurray.  There was evidence that he had an accident. There were things pulled from the apt.  when LE was searching.  I am hoping and praying the results of the autopsy does not take a turn like Nevaeh's where this child was placed in the water hurt or unconscious but still alive.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 04, 2009, 01:20:40 AM
pink angel, Deenie, Northern Rose and 8 Guests are viewing this topic.

Goodnight you two and the 8 lookyloos. :)

I am going to go and try to sleep.

Bless our little man Robert and prayers for his family.

Goodnight and God bless pink.  Please try to get some sleep.  I know you have been following this case closely and my heart breaks for the pain you are feeling right now.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Deenie on August 04, 2009, 01:21:35 AM
me whispers ... I have to go now. I am in Musings. Me Heart cant take no more.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 04, 2009, 01:22:02 AM
I found through many talks with family and documents after my Father passed away that I have many relatives that were Cherokee Indian. I found this Prayer. 
-----------------------


For Robert

Precious Child   ::MonkeyAngel::

Cherokee Prayer Blessing

May the Warm Winds of Heaven

Blow softly upon your house.

May the Great Spirit

Bless all who enter there.

May your Mocassins

Make happy tracks

in many snows,

and may the Rainbow

Always touch your shoulder.



God Bless you Little Man

Deenie that is just beautiful.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 04, 2009, 01:24:31 AM
me whispers ... I have to go now. I am in Musings. Me Heart cant take no more.



I am heading to bed as well. I am worn down from the stress and worrying of the last two days that I have been through. Goodnight and God bless Dennie. 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 07:31:15 AM
Neighbors react to news of body found in canal

Story Updated: Aug 3, 2009 at 11:22 PM MDT
By KBCI staff
BOISE - The Ada County Coroner has confirmed the body pulled from the New York Canal Monday afternoon is that of a young boy.

While police are not saying if the body belongs to missing 8-year-old Robert Manwill they did say during a news conference the body matches the age and size of Robert. It's news that has many in this community nervous about the outcome of Robert's case.

They walk to a makeshift memorial set up for Robert Manwill with heavy hearts.

"There's an idea that it's him," said Andrea Belvoir, as she and her kids visit the site.

Some of the residents who showed up know Manwill.

"He has that beautiful shy smile that we talk so much about," said Gloria DeKelley, recalling times she has seen Robert playing at the apartment pool.

On Monday night dozens of people, friends, and neighbors showed up at the memorial site continuing to show their support for Manwill and his family. While many have remained so hopeful, others fear now with the latest news that the body pulled from the New York Canal may belong to Robert.

"If it is him, that he no longer is suffering and it's kind of sad that it took this long," said Cheryl Olsen as she visited the memorial site.

Police have not confirmed the identity of the body pulled from the water, they are currently waiting for that information to come from the Ada County Coroner's Office, but they did say the body matches the description in size and age to Robert.

While neighbors say it is hard to remain hopeful, especially knowing that, one thing they say won't change is how much this little boy means to so many.

"We love him and we care for him and he will always be part of us, always," said DeKelley.

Members of Manwill's family did show up to the memorial site on Monday evening, including his mother. They continue to ask for privacy right now, waiting to see what will be released Tuesday. They did thank the community for showing support and appreciate the site that has been established outside Robert's apartment.
(http://media.2news.tv/images/Neighbors%20Manwill%20Memorial.jpg)
http://www.2news.tv/news/52396997.html

p.s. Thank you NorRose and Deenie. Deenie that poem was lovely. :)


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cherjers on August 04, 2009, 07:32:29 AM
Hi everyone. I am just now able to post since I heard the aweful news. I really lost my breath I could barely breath. I am so sick to death of hearing senceless acts again children by the hands of adults. I have a question. I have read a few times that this will be the 2nd child of the bio dad that has died. The 1st child that died was that child's mom the same mom as robert. And how old was that child and how did he die. Ty
The first child was 4 yrs old - and was the child of Robert's Bio Dads and first wife. She stabbed her 4 yr to death ....... gag me.


Bio dad can sure pick um-what does he look for in a wife-


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cherjers on August 04, 2009, 07:39:02 AM
I have to say this .. because I feel I have too.

I am not usually a person that wishes bad things.. But Can we say that Robert's Mom needs to " STOP" having children. That it is court ordered that she have her baby maker shut down.

I swear I don't understand WHY people continue to have children so they can be abused and thrown into the system for basic survival  - for Protection from their own Mother. If you have a track record that every child you have is taken away from you ..and or abused by you, or by the people you entertain within your lifestyle ( the reason why they are taken away) should it not " Be Clear" that you were not meant to have kids?

 :gaah:

I couldn't agree more

me either.
   good morning monkeys -- its hard to have children in jail-and that is where she should spend the rest of her life-weather she killed Robert or not-she fracture her baby head-she didnt know what the hell Robert was wearing -out by himself at night -by all accounts that child lived in fear when he was with her.  Family memebers said he liked to go to small places -yea to get away from a sicko mother ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 07:39:07 AM
Body in canal: Is it Robert Manwill?
The boy pulled from the water is the age and size of the missing 8-year-old, but officials won't know for sure who he is or how he died until an autopsy
BY PATRICK ORR - porr@idahostatesman.com
Copyright: © 2009 Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/04/09

Melissa Jenkins left the Boise police headquarters in tears Monday afternoon, and later police officials confirmed why.

A dead boy found in an irrigation canal between Boise and Kuna Monday could be her missing 8-year-old son, Robert Manwill.

Boise Deputy Police Chief Jim Kerns said Monday that they could not positively identify the boy until after an autopsy Tuesday by the Ada County coroner's office.

Neither the Boise Police Department nor Ada County Sheriff's Office has any other active cases of missing persons matching the description of the boy found Monday, officials said.

Boise police were about to start a 2 p.m. news conference about the Manwill case Monday when they suddenly canceled - about a half-hour after two people saw the body of what appeared to be a young boy floating in the New York Canal near Cloverdale Road in southern Ada County.

The first Ada County deputy who arrived jumped into the water and pulled the boy to the side of the canal, Kerns said. A short time later, Boise police detectives and coroner's officials showed up and removed the body.

About three hours later, Robert's mother, Melissa Sue Jenkins, appeared to be crying as she left the Boise police station, physically supported by two other family members. Other family members left the station in groups, escorted to their cars by a police officer. Police said the family did not want to comment and asked for privacy.

In contrast with previous news conferences, Robert's family did not attend Monday's somber announcement. Kerns stood next to FBI agent Jon Morton as he delivered grim news.

"A missing child is every family's nightmare, and a heartache for the entire community. All of us, including the investigators on this case, have said to ourselves, 'What if Robert were my child?'" Kerns said. "Our hearts go out to Robert's family tonight as they wait in private for a positive ID from the coroner."

The canal is the same one that crosses Vista Avenue less than a half-mile from the apartment where Robert was reportedly last seen.

A New York Canal company worker said it would be possible for a body to travel from where the canal passes Vista Avenue to where a body was found Monday.

In the past couple of decades, bodies have floated for as long as at least two weeks and as far as at least 14 miles.

But the spot where this body was found also is about 2 miles southeast of the Ada County home near Five Mile Road where police searched a backyard over the weekend.

The man who lives there, Evan Wallis, says he knows Melissa Jenkins and her boyfriend, Daniel Ehrlick Jr., but has no idea what happened to Robert, who was reported missing from his mother's apartment July 24, shortly after 10 p.m.

Wallis told the Idaho Statesman Friday police were digging up his backyard after bloodhounds picked up a scent at his house. He said his Chevy Suburban had been stolen the Wednesday before Robert disappeared and that he found it the Monday after.

Boise police have not disclosed what evidence they removed from his home, or from Jenkins and Ehrlick's apartment off Vista Avenue, which was searched at least twice last week.

After the searches, police announced they had found undisclosed evidence indicating that Robert could be injured or the "victim of a tragic event." They still have not identified any suspects or people of interest in the case.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/855054.html

(http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2009/08/03/23/490-0804_Local_Body1.standalone.prod_affiliate.36.jpg)


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cherjers on August 04, 2009, 07:43:11 AM
And why was it voluntary manslaughter and not murder. Can anyone answer that for me.

Why was Robert's mom allowed to plead down to injury to a child when she was charged with felony child abuse?

The system that is in place to serve and protect the children, is letting them down as much as their parents. They are putting this lambs back into the lions den.

The judge that ordered unsupervised visitation for Robert with his mother, has Robert's blood on his/her hands tonight.

jmo
his face and name should be put on every news station and in every paper


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 07:45:54 AM
Community reacts to 'very sad' news of body
 - Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/04/09

"I'm awfully sad that he is not found alive. When we went to do something over there, definitely half of me felt we may not find him alive because it was already five days. We were just being practical. Unless he is injured, he would have reached for help. We tried to help them out. Unfortunately, we couldn't find anything."

Boise mother Neeraja Kusuma participated in Friday's search. Kusuma's brother disappeared for 24 hours when she was 10 years old.

"We have been watching throughout the weekend and (Monday) all of the updates. We are putting the pieces of puzzle together, and we are just very sad. We are trying not to judge the parents. It's the first thing people are saying. Even if the parents did do that, something very tragic must have happened in their lives to cause them to do that. From a mother of two, I couldn't imagine. I can't imagine how life can go on. It is tragic. I just pray that his death was very fast, that he did not feel any pain and he's in a better place. I just wish it would have had a better turn out for that little guy."

New Meridian resident Jessica Meyers searched with her husband and son Friday.

"It is a scary thing for a parent to hear, when there is a child missing and you are waiting for news. ... You don't yet know ... the possibility is there. You don't know yet. It's very hard to be a parent in that position. It's relief, because yes, you have an answer. You don't keep searching and don't know what is going on.

Another way, you lost your child. It's a terrible, terrible thing. Mixed reaction. You got your answer, you know, but at the same time you lost your child."

Boise resident and parent Gloria McGuigan also searched on Friday.

"It's devastating, but happy that if it is him, he's been found, just for his family. But (it's) tragic. Not that it was unexpected, but heartbreaking nonetheless. I don't think anybody out on the search would say that it was unexpected. But it's just heartbreaking. I feel for the family. My first reaction is that it's probably him. They found that evidence where they said a tragic event could have occurred. Very disappointed. Very, very tragic."

Nampa mother Patti Musser searched for Robert on Friday.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/robertmanwill/story/855055.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cookie on August 04, 2009, 08:37:07 AM

if it isn't Robert, it is someone's child...God bless him ! since there are no other missing children in the area............sigh.....



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 08:49:32 AM
And why was it voluntary manslaughter and not murder. Can anyone answer that for me.

Why was Robert's mom allowed to plead down to injury to a child when she was charged with felony child abuse?

The system that is in place to serve and protect the children, is letting them down as much as their parents. They are putting this lambs back into the lions den.

The judge that ordered unsupervised visitation for Robert with his mother, has Robert's blood on his/her hands tonight.

jmo
his face and name should be put on every news station and in every paper

The craziest thing IMO is that it was a female judge!

When Jenkins pleaded guilty to misdemeanor injury to a child on March 31, 2009, Judge Cathleen MacGregor Irby asked Jenkins what she did that "would make her guilty of that offense."

http://www.idahostatesman.com/boise/story/853332.html


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 04, 2009, 08:55:09 AM
Good Morning Monkeys and guests.  ::MonkeyAngel::

DEENIE, a beautiful Cherokee blessing for Robert.

NORTHERN ROSE, Roberts body was found way downstream from the dam. I hope you got some much needed sleep.

PINK, it looks like you didn't get much sleep again last night.

Robert was the first thing I thought of when I woke up this morning. That and the pouring rain make me want to go back to bed, and cover my head. I dreamed of dirty, slowly moving water last night, and I couldn't crawl up the steep sides of the bank.... ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 04, 2009, 08:57:59 AM
Judge Cathleen MacGregor Irby's Website:

http://www2.state.id.us/fourthjudicial/Judges-Magistrate-Civil/Judge%20MacGregor%20Irby.htm


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: MuffyBee on August 04, 2009, 09:57:49 AM
(http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ht_boise_boy_090730_mn.jpg)
PLEASE SAY A PRAYER AND LIGHT A CANDLE FOR ROBERT MANWILL
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on August 04, 2009, 09:59:40 AM
On Twitter:

http://twitter.com/search?q=%23findRobert

janabriggs: @trace360 I heard reports that Roberts Mom was called in 2 ID body of boy found in canal. Saw her leaving, crying. #findRobert
11 minutes ago from TwitterBerry


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on August 04, 2009, 10:01:43 AM
On Twitter:

http://twitter.com/search?q=%23findRobert

janabriggs: @trace360 I heard reports that Roberts Mom was called in 2 ID body of boy found in canal. Saw her leaving, crying. #findRobert
11 minutes ago from TwitterBerry
Thanks Klaas  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 04, 2009, 10:01:45 AM
Hi everyone. I am just now able to post since I heard the aweful news. I really lost my breath I could barely breath. I am so sick to death of hearing senceless acts again children by the hands of adults. I have a question. I have read a few times that this will be the 2nd child of the bio dad that has died. The 1st child that died was that child's mom the same mom as robert. And how old was that child and how did he die. Ty
The first child was 4 yrs old - and was the child of Robert's Bio Dads and first wife. She stabbed her 4 yr to death ....... gag me.


Bio dad can sure pick um-what does he look for in a wife-
I sure glad you said it, because that is exactly what I was wondering  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 04, 2009, 10:28:07 AM
I don't live in Fantasy Land, but is there anyway possible that Robert could have fallen into the canal?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 04, 2009, 11:04:23 AM
have we found out if it is Robert yet? ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 04, 2009, 11:06:40 AM
I don't live in Fantasy Land, but is there anyway possible that Robert could have fallen into the canal?

If he had fallen in over a week ago then his body would have risen due to decomp and would be bloated. There is no way they would have asked the mother to ID him.  If she truly was asked to ID him then IMO he was placed in the water very very recently and had not sunk down yet unless the canal water is very very cold.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 04, 2009, 11:07:29 AM
I don't live in Fantasy Land, but is there anyway possible that Robert could have fallen into the canal?
i don't know no rose...it could be a possibility but with mom and bf's track record imo it would be unlikely.
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 04, 2009, 11:08:35 AM
The autopsy on the body of a little boy found yesterday in the New York canal near Kuna is scheduled to begin at 9am this morning. The Ada County Coroner's Office says any further information will be released as soon as it becomes available. When that will be, is anyone's guess. The body is that of a boy the same age and size as 8-year old Robert Manwill who has been missing since July 24th.

http://www.670kboi.com/Article.asp?id=1441754&spid=


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 04, 2009, 11:09:40 AM
ot
Northern so glad your son is ok....i hope you are as well...beer will save us all ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Lovinlife on August 04, 2009, 11:19:36 AM
I don't live in Fantasy Land, but is there anyway possible that Robert could have fallen into the canal?

If he had fallen in over a week ago then his body would have risen due to decomp and would be bloated. There is no way they would have asked the mother to ID him.  If she truly was asked to ID him then IMO he was placed in the water very very recently and had not sunk down yet unless the canal water is very very cold.
Since Robert went missing Boise, ID daytime temps have been 90+degrees with the first days of Aug close to 100.  (35+deg c for NR)  with the depth of that canal (I'm guessing 15 ft max) there is no way that water is cold.  Oh & no rain reported.

http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/interstate/monthly/USID0025?month=0


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 04, 2009, 11:22:12 AM


For some reason, some cases hurt more than others and I don't know why, maybe because they seem to have been predictable and preventable. 

I am bawling my eyes out.  I can just imagine the pain in having to give the child to a non custodial parent, knowing 'something bad was going to happen'.  It makes me feel for some parents that kidnap their own child instead of handing them over to the other parent, when in their gut they know handing them over is wrong. 

Wtf, was this judge thinking?  Wth is the law going to be on the kids' side?

Sorry for the language, I feel deep in my soul some of these cases are preventable. 

Robert has had such a tough, tough life...and it appears a tough, tough death.

I am praying for Robert and all who love him (that includes the monkeys and you, pink).

xo



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 04, 2009, 11:22:30 AM
And why was it voluntary manslaughter and not murder. Can anyone answer that for me.

Why was Robert's mom allowed to plead down to injury to a child when she was charged with felony child abuse?

The system that is in place to serve and protect the children, is letting them down as much as their parents. They are putting this lambs back into the lions den.

The judge that ordered unsupervised visitation for Robert with his mother, has Robert's blood on his/her hands tonight.

jmo
his face and name should be put on every news station and in every paper

The craziest thing IMO is that it was a female judge!

When Jenkins pleaded guilty to misdemeanor injury to a child on March 31, 2009, Judge Cathleen MacGregor Irby asked Jenkins what she did that "would make her guilty of that offense."

http://www.idahostatesman.com/boise/story/853332.html

<snipped>

Jenkins is on probation for fracturing the skull of her third child, Aidan.  She plead guilty to misdemeanor injury to a child on March 31, 2009.  She was asked by the judge what it was that

would make her guilty of that offense.

Jenkins, who had earlier remained mum during the investigation, now had an explanation

I was burping my son and I accidentally hit his head on the table,

Ada County prosecutor Fafa Alidjani, added her two cents to the record that day in court

the child had swelling to the side of his head. The side of the head kind of felt mushy and swollen, and the child was in distress. The X-ray revealed the child had about a 3- to 4-centimeter horizontal fracture to the side of his head,

Alidjani went on to tell the judge that a  doctor who examined the baby determined a great deal of force was needed to cause a fracture of that magnitude.

So what happens to a mother after fracturing her childs skull, then pawns it off as an accident while performing her motherly duties, even though physical evidence and testimony from a doctor dictates otherwise?  Well, if you're in Judge Cathleen MacGregor Irby'a courtroom in Ada county, you get 2 years supervised probation.  Yep, if you've got a calendar handy, you've probably already figured out that Melissa Jenkins was all of 4 months deep into her probation for fracturing her sons skull, and now her other son is missing, and a body has been found in a canal right up the road.

Failed at birth and no telling how many times there after, the biggest failure of Roberts life may actually be by those that were paid to protect him.  Those like Judge Cathleen MacGregor Irby who when faced with determining the future of this boy and his siblings decided the future of their mother was more important and released her with 2 years probation.  Wanna send her a letter?  I did..

 
Judge Cathleen MacGregor Irby
Magistrate Judge
Ada County Courthouse
200 W. Front Street, Rm. 4148
Boise, ID  83702
 

Right now as you read this Melissa Jenkins sits in her home free to do as she wishes, her son Aidan Ehrlick is in protective custody somewhere with a knot on his head, Judge Cathleen MacGregor Irby is probably donning her robe for another day in court making the donuts, and Robert Manwill... well, we'll probably get word about him here in the next few hours from the county coroner.   

http://crimesearchersonline.com/index.php?option=com_myblog&show=A-look-at-Robert-Manwills-Mother-Melissa-Jenkins-using-the-term-mother-liberally-.html&Itemid=60


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 04, 2009, 11:39:29 AM
On Twitter:

http://twitter.com/search?q=%23findRobert

janabriggs: @trace360 I heard reports that Roberts Mom was called in 2 ID body of boy found in canal. Saw her leaving, crying. #findRobert
11 minutes ago from TwitterBerry
Thanks Klaas  ::MonkeyWaa::

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cece on August 04, 2009, 12:29:03 PM
http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0309-kuna_canal_body.a50d15f2.html
 

UPDATE: Autopsy underway on body found in Kuna canal

09:56 AM MDT on Tuesday, August 4, 2009

(snipped):

The results of today's autopsy are expected to come sometime after noon. Stay with KTVB & KTVB.COM for updates, and  click here to recieve an e-mail alert if a news conference is scheduled.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 12:31:38 PM
Thanks Cece!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 12:35:42 PM
Canal official: body could travel from Vista to Kuna

10:04 AM MDT on Tuesday, August 4, 2009


Canal officials say these "body gates" can be deployed into the water to screen a human body that was in the water. They were not in use yesterday.


BOISE - An official with the group that oversees the New York Canal said it is plausible that a body which entered the canal near the Vista area could make it to the Kuna-area.

The body of a male juvenile was found in the New York Canal near Kuna at Deer Flat Rd. Monday afternoon. The body is the same "age and size" as Robert Manwill according to police, who was reported missing July 24th in the Vista Ave. area of Boise. The Ada County coroner is working to confirm the identity of the body, and the cause of death.

Police have not indicated if they believe the body floated from one location to another, or how the body got in the water.

"Normally if a body goes in (to the water) in Boise, (police) will want us to put the gates in immediately," Paul Deveau, project manager with the Boise Project said. "We frown on that at least at first. It takes about a week for a body to go that distance. Maybe two."

Deveau said officials have to keep a close eye on the gate when it is deployed, since it gathers so much moss that it must be cleaned every few hours.

He said his office coordinated with police last week.

"We talked to them a week ago yesterday. We (walked) the canal with them and showed them the particulars. They kind of felt that wasn't necessary."

He stressed that there are no other body gates between Boise and the location where the body was found. Several other structures are in the canal that look similar, but they would generally not be useful in blocking a human body in the water.

It isn't clear where the boy's body entered the water, and police have not outlined what they think may have happened. More details are expected later Tuesday.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0409-body_in_canal.a93ee584.html



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 12:36:50 PM
(http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/L_IMAGE.1223cc986ef.93.88.fa.d0.a951febe.jpg)

Pic of gate


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on August 04, 2009, 12:41:12 PM
(http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/L_IMAGE.1223cc986ef.93.88.fa.d0.a951febe.jpg)

Pic of gate

Looking at this pic it would be easy for a body to go under it.  It would stop a boat but not a body or a log or something like that.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 12:43:01 PM
I think the pic of the *body gate* is in the UP position and they can be lowered to stop a body. 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 12:44:24 PM
(http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/L_IMAGE.1223cc986ef.93.88.fa.d0.a951febe.jpg)

Pic of gate

Here is the caption below the picture

Canal officials say these "body gates" can be deployed into the water to screen a human body that was in the water. They were not in use yesterday.



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on August 04, 2009, 12:44:31 PM
I think the pic of the *body gate* is in the UP position and they can be lowered to stop a body. 

AH, good point.  What position were the gates in after the time Robert went missing, do we know?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 12:46:16 PM
Canal official: body could travel from Vista to Kuna

10:04 AM MDT on Tuesday, August 4, 2009


Canal officials say these "body gates" can be deployed into the water to screen a human body that was in the water. They were not in use yesterday.


BOISE - An official with the group that oversees the New York Canal said it is plausible that a body which entered the canal near the Vista area could make it to the Kuna-area.

The body of a male juvenile was found in the New York Canal near Kuna at Deer Flat Rd. Monday afternoon. The body is the same "age and size" as Robert Manwill according to police, who was reported missing July 24th in the Vista Ave. area of Boise. The Ada County coroner is working to confirm the identity of the body, and the cause of death.

Police have not indicated if they believe the body floated from one location to another, or how the body got in the water.

"Normally if a body goes in (to the water) in Boise, (police) will want us to put the gates in immediately," Paul Deveau, project manager with the Boise Project said. "We frown on that at least at first. It takes about a week for a body to go that distance. Maybe two."

Deveau said officials have to keep a close eye on the gate when it is deployed, since it gathers so much moss that it must be cleaned every few hours.

He said his office coordinated with police last week.

"We talked to them a week ago yesterday. We (walked) the canal with them and showed them the particulars. They kind of felt that wasn't necessary."


--snipped--

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0409-body_in_canal.a93ee584.html



I wonder why BPD didn't think it was necessary a week ago to deploy the body gates.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 12:56:44 PM
 ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::

(http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2009/08/03/18/56-0804_local_bodyA.embedded.prod_affiliate.36.JPG)

Authorities pull the body of a young boy out of the New York
Canal in rural Ada County south of Boise on Monday afternoon.




Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 04, 2009, 01:36:58 PM
Good afternoon dear sweet Monkeys.

My heart is just aching for this little boy Robert.   When I came here this afternoon and saw over 10 pages from late yesterday and last night I was so sad.  I have been thinking that they would find his body soon.

I believe his bio Mom and her live in boyfriend are to blame.  Their story's have kept changing since day one..just like Casey Anthony and her stories.  It is like they have been trying to set up others after the fact..and I do believe they put tat body in the canal.  Not quite sure when they put it in the canal though..rather from the get go or if they moved it there more recently.  I would think that LE has kept a pretty close eye on them since this started ..so I'm not sure they had the opportunity since they notified LE to move the body to the canal since then.

I am thinking they used the friend's SUV..unknown to him.  They tried to set up Grandpa..he is a neighbor of the SUV guy.  So that makes sense that would use a vehicle and leave evidence in that neighborhood.

Then they came out with the phrase of Robert being sneaky and hiding in or crawling into small spaces.  I wonder if they placed him in a conduit pipe that leads into the canal knowing he would be washed in there.

Is there a place to view the structure of the canal and any overflow pipes that lead into it..like say for ground water runoff? 

I just think, like Casey Anthony, their lies have been giving us clues, because maybe they contained some truth to where Robert was and what happened.

Like borrowing the SUV of the friend of boyfriends brother, who lives in Grandpa's neighborhood..then saying he likes to get into tiny places and hide,could be a culvert pipe leading to the canal that they placed him in after they murdered him.  Also Mom was supposedly working..but how late did she actually work that Friday night..and did she have off during the 3 days prior?

Of course this is all just my mind wondering around trying to make some sort of sense out of the senselessness of this crime.
Anyone,anyone?


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 01:49:01 PM
Gypsy - I think your theory of what happened is very plausible.  I think we will be able to conclude more if and when the details of the autopsy are released. 

Such a sad story!


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: burkieandemme on August 04, 2009, 02:04:36 PM
::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWaa::

(http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2009/08/03/18/56-0804_local_bodyA.embedded.prod_affiliate.36.JPG)

Authorities pull the body of a young boy out of the New York
Canal in rural Ada County south of Boise on Monday afternoon.




Heart wrenching!  That is all that can be said.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 04, 2009, 02:35:31 PM
Originally Posted by Idaho-native 
I am on the phone with my brother who lives in the same complex. He said that they found massive amounts of blood in the apartment. He said the removed carpet and pieces of wall. He said the mom and bf have been suspects from day one. The mom and bf are being housed in a Motel not far from the apartments. He said there is still a lot of FBI keeping a close eye over the apartments.

He said my niece went to change clothes at 7:30 and headed over to the pool. When she left the swings he left at the same time and that was the last time he was seen. The infant child was at the home the night Robert went missing.   (From WS, thought it was interesting, could be true, could be rumor)


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on August 04, 2009, 02:43:43 PM
Originally Posted by Idaho-native 
I am on the phone with my brother who lives in the same complex. He said that they found massive amounts of blood in the apartment. He said the removed carpet and pieces of wall. He said the mom and bf have been suspects from day one. The mom and bf are being housed in a Motel not far from the apartments. He said there is still a lot of FBI keeping a close eye over the apartments.

He said my niece went to change clothes at 7:30 and headed over to the pool. When she left the swings he left at the same time and that was the last time he was seen. The infant child was at the home the night Robert went missing.   (From WS, thought it was interesting, could be true, could be rumor)

This is interesting to me because earlier this week I thought I heard on HLN or somewhere that they were expecting news soon as large quantities of blood had been found spattered (their word) in the apartment.  I waited to hear more and was thinking maybe I heard that wrong, so I didn't post anything about it at the time. 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 04, 2009, 02:45:59 PM
Originally Posted by Idaho-native 
I am on the phone with my brother who lives in the same complex. He said that they found massive amounts of blood in the apartment. He said the removed carpet and pieces of wall. He said the mom and bf have been suspects from day one. The mom and bf are being housed in a Motel not far from the apartments. He said there is still a lot of FBI keeping a close eye over the apartments.

He said my niece went to change clothes at 7:30 and headed over to the pool. When she left the swings he left at the same time and that was the last time he was seen. The infant child was at the home the night Robert went missing.   (From WS, thought it was interesting, could be true, could be rumor)

This sounds so much like Nevaeh's case it is spooky.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 02:48:26 PM
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

So I wonder how much time CNN is going to take away from MJ coverage for the latest in this case?? 


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: burkieandemme on August 04, 2009, 02:51:35 PM
No Rose Colored Glasses:
Good afternoon.   I have felt the police have been on to the egg doner and her man since day one.  If what was posted on WS is true, why are being housed in a motel and who is paying for this?

On a side note I personnaly would like to see "motel" code for "prision". These two animals can have an extended stay. Lifetime even.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 02:56:52 PM
I doubt the twitter about asking mom to ID the body.

If that is Robert, in that heat after 10 days. In or out of the water, it wouldn't be something anyone should see. Nothing police would ask a parent to see. They are going to have to use dental records or DNA to ID the body. jmo



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 02:58:48 PM
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

So I wonder how much time CNN is going to take away from MJ coverage for the latest in this case?? 

Wasn't even on last night. MJ was all that was talked about.

::rolls eyes::

I am sick of hearing about him. Sorry.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 03:03:57 PM
No Rose Colored Glasses:
Good afternoon.   I have felt the police have been on to the egg doner and her man since day one.  If what was posted on WS is true, why are being housed in a motel and who is paying for this?

On a side note I personnaly would like to see "motel" code for "prision". These two animals can have an extended stay. Lifetime even.

Hi "bande". Perhaps LE put them up? To keep them safe from the public. I don't know.

I agree with you though. A hotel is far to good for the pair.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 03:06:18 PM
Originally Posted by Idaho-native 
I am on the phone with my brother who lives in the same complex. He said that they found massive amounts of blood in the apartment. He said the removed carpet and pieces of wall. He said the mom and bf have been suspects from day one. The mom and bf are being housed in a Motel not far from the apartments. He said there is still a lot of FBI keeping a close eye over the apartments.

He said my niece went to change clothes at 7:30 and headed over to the pool. When she left the swings he left at the same time and that was the last time he was seen. The infant child was at the home the night Robert went missing.   (From WS, thought it was interesting, could be true, could be rumor)

This sounds so much like Nevaeh's case it is spooky.

This poster also sounds like the "Stephanie" that called into Brian's dreams show.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: burkieandemme on August 04, 2009, 03:13:46 PM
Hi pink!

You right LE might be keeping them there.  Hopefully under the tightest watch.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on August 04, 2009, 03:25:46 PM
I doubt the twitter about asking mom to ID the body.

If that is Robert, in that heat after 10 days. In or out of the water, it wouldn't be something anyone should see. Nothing police would ask a parent to see. They are going to have to use dental records or DNA to ID the body. jmo



I hope they did drag them in to identify if they had anything to do with it.  That would be a tactic to make them crack, maybe????


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tina Bee on August 04, 2009, 03:36:30 PM
Good afternoon everyone!

I was so shocked this morning when HLN actually included Robert's case in their news updates for the day. It's been nothing, but MJ for the passed 4 weeks now(?)

Anywho there's been no confirmation on the body, but hopefully soon.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 04:02:59 PM

"The autopsy on the body of a little boy found yesterday in the New York canal near Kuna began this morning at 9am. Police say they plan to hold a news conference after investigators have had a chance to review those findings. An exact time for that press conference has not been set, but police have said they will not hold the daily 2pm press conference on the search for Robert Manwill. The body which was found in the canal is that of a boy the same age and size as 8-year old Robert Manwill who has been missing since July 24th. "

http://www.670kboi.com/Article.asp?id=1441754&spid=


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on August 04, 2009, 04:03:50 PM
NEW BLINK POST:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/08/04/body-of-missing-idaho-child-robert-manwill-found-in-canal/

Body of Missing Idaho Child Robert Manwill Found in Canal


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: MuffyBee on August 04, 2009, 04:06:34 PM
NEW BLINK POST:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/08/04/body-of-missing-idaho-child-robert-manwill-found-in-canal/

Body of Missing Idaho Child Robert Manwill Found in Canal


 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 04, 2009, 04:06:54 PM
thanks klaas


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 04, 2009, 04:14:35 PM
  ::MonkeyAngel::  Rest In Peace Robert.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tracygirl on August 04, 2009, 04:14:42 PM
NEW BLINK POST:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/08/04/body-of-missing-idaho-child-robert-manwill-found-in-canal/

Body of Missing Idaho Child Robert Manwill Found in Canal


R.I.P. sweet boy.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 04:15:45 PM
according to KVTB - the body found in the canal has been tentatively identified as Robert Manwill.


Bless you little man. May you rest in peace.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 04, 2009, 04:15:56 PM
another  ::MonkeyAngel::
 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 04:18:12 PM
The body found in a canal has been ID'ed as Robert Manwill

http://www.ktvb.com/


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 04, 2009, 04:18:37 PM
NEW BLINK POST:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/08/04/body-of-missing-idaho-child-robert-manwill-found-in-canal/

Body of Missing Idaho Child Robert Manwill Found in Canal


Poor little Robert...  ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: can on August 04, 2009, 04:21:01 PM
What an outrage!

Another innocent child whose life has been cut short.

Rest in peace little Robert. 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 04:23:38 PM
Coroner identifies body found in canal — tentatively — as Robert Manwill
Patrick Orr - porr@idahostatesman.com
Published: 08/04/09

The boy found in a canal between Boise and Kuna Monday was most likely missing 8-year-old Robert Manwill, the Ada County Coroner's Office said Tuesday afternoon.

"Positive identification will be released as soon as this office receives the dental records and the forensic odontologist can compare the findings," the office said in a release. "We are working closely with the Boise Police Department and our preliminary results are being turned over to Boise police to help further their investigation."

The report issued Tuesday does not indicate a cause of death, that is "pending investigation." It also says the place of death is unknown.


http://www.idahostatesman.com/robertmanwill/story/855363.html





Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 04, 2009, 04:27:24 PM


KUNA - The body found in the New York canal Monday afternoon has been tentatively identified as that of 8-year-old Robert Manwill.

The boy's body was found in the New York Canal near Kuna Monday afternoon. Manwill was reported missing on July 24th.


 

Robert Manwill

Just before 1:30 p.m. Monday, a citizen called Ada County Dispatch and said there was a body floating in the canal. An Ada County Sheriff's Deputy responded to the scene and jumped into the water to pull the body from the water.

The Ada County Coroner also responded to the scene, and the person was found to be dead.

Tuesday afternoon, Ada County Coroner Erwin Sonnenberg made a tentative identification of the body, but said that the cause of death is pending a police investigation.

The identification is tentative because Sonnenberg is awaiting the receipt of dental records to make a final determination.

Sonnenberg said his office is working closely with the Boise Police Department on the case - and says further information will come in cooperation with BPD.

A spokesperson says a news conference is expected in the case, but a time has not yet been set. We will carry the news conference live on KTVB & KTVB.COM. Click here to sign up for an alert to be informed when we learn more.


“A missing child is every family’s nightmare, and a nightmare for an entire community," Kerns said. "(This case) remains under active investigation. Detectives are working closely with the coroner’s office.”

Dispatchers tell us no other children have been reported missing today.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0309-kuna_canal_body.a50d15f2.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 04:29:34 PM
News conference scheduled for 4pm
http://twitter.com/ktvb


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Northern Rose on August 04, 2009, 04:30:04 PM
http://www.fox12idaho.com/Global/story.asp?S=10846485&nav=menu439_2

Boise, ID - The Ada County Coroner's Office has tentatively identified the body found in the New York Canal yesterday as Robert Manwill.  The positive ID will come after the dental records have been matched.  For now the information has been turned over to the Boise Police Department.  We are still waiting to hear the cause of death.  Manwill went missing 11 days ago from his mom's apartment complex near Vista and Cherry in Boise.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: cece on August 04, 2009, 04:36:19 PM
http://www.fox12idaho.com/Global/story.asp?S=10846485&nav=menu439_2

Posted: Aug 4, 2009 04:21 PM

Boise, ID - The Ada County Coroner's Office has "tentatively" identified the body found in the New York Canal yesterday as Robert Manwill.  Positive identification will be released once the coroner receives dental records for comparison.  For now the information has been turned over to the Boise Police Department.  We are still waiting to hear the cause of death.  Manwill went missing 11 days ago from his mom's apartment complex near Vista and Cherry in Boise.  Police are going to hold a press conference at 4pm to update the case. 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 04, 2009, 04:41:34 PM
Thanks Klaas.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 04:41:44 PM
A 4pm news conference on the death of Robert Manwill is scheduled. This will be LIVE on KTVB.COM


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Blink34 on August 04, 2009, 04:43:48 PM
Thanks Leroy, No Rose and all of you for the quick updates.

I apologize if y'all already know this, but I was able to confirm the Police report on Walli's suburban was filed on Monday the 27th, not on the 22nd as he alleged. He reported the theft and the recovery on the same day.

There is no doubt in my mind Robert was buried in that man's backyard temporarily.

Maybe I am missing something, how does a woman get a $75 fine and work release for fracturing her infants skull? How does she keep the other kids in an unsupervised setting? When will the courts decide to become proactive vs. reactive?
  


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 04:46:58 PM
Robert has been safe with god for sometime. It's bittersweet but I am sure his family is relieved he has been found and they will be able to lay to rest the child that they love so much.

I can't imagine as a parent, having a child missing and never knowing what happened to them or even if they are alive out there somewhere.

I hope if someone caused this little child harm, they rot in hell.

My heart is broken for a life so tragically lost. For a father and a brother to lose another son and sibling through tragic circumstances. For the extended family and friends. For his classmates that have to deal with death at such a young age. Our little man isn't the only victim.

Something has to be done with pandemic infecting our world. In the best interest of the child my ass. How is being dead the best interest of Robert? Our children are being beaten and murdered by the ones that were trusted to love and protect them. What the hell is wrong with court system and judges put in place to protect the child, to be the voice for the children? That system is tossing these lambs back into the lion den. And once back in they raped, beaten, and/or murdered the second or third time they are "reunited". What the hell is wrong with the court system that allow unsupervised visitation by known child abusers or known child molesters, court systems that plea down felony charges against children to slaps on the wrists, court systems that let child molesters roam the streets unchecked or not monitored, only for them to re-offend again and again? The same court system where you get a longer court sentence for buying pot than you do for beating a child.

This pandemic is more dangerous than any H1N1 flu virus. Where is the panic? Where is the outrage? Where is the media coverage? Where is the government? They can bail out banks and car companies but can't protect our babies? What the hell is wrong with this world we live in?

I am just so sad, so angry, so heartbroken, so filled with pain.

Robert is only eight years old. He shouldn't be dead.
He should be outside playing on the swings, wondering what is for supper and if he can watch cartoons later. He shouldn't be sitting on an autopsy table.

I am sorry little man. I wish we knew. I wish we could have helped you or protected you.



Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tina Bee on August 04, 2009, 04:48:21 PM
http://www.nwcn.com/topstories/stories/NW_080409IDN-kuna-canal-body-SW.aa550b6e.html

The coroner has tenatively ID'd the body as that of Robert Manwill.

RIP little man.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: JessStar on August 04, 2009, 04:53:38 PM
I just don't know what to say anymore.  ::MonkeyNoNo::  There are no words left.  My heart goes out to the family, but especially to Robert Manwill--a little boy that was robbed of his God-given right to live and enjoy life.  I'm sick of having to utter those words.  I feel like a broken record.   ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: cece on August 04, 2009, 04:58:42 PM
Robert has been safe with god for sometime. It's bittersweet but I am sure his family is relieved he has been found and they will be able to lay to rest the child that they love so much.

I can't imagine as a parent, having a child missing and never knowing what happened to them or even if they are alive out there somewhere.

I hope if someone caused this little child harm, they rot in hell.

My heart is broken for a life so tragically lost. For a father and a brother to lose another son and sibling through tragic circumstances. For the extended family and friends. For his classmates that have to deal with death at such a young age. Our little man isn't the only victim.

Something has to be done with pandemic infecting our world. In the best interest of the child my ass. How is being dead the best interest of Robert? Our children are being beaten and murdered by the ones that were trusted to love and protect them. What the hell is wrong with court system and judges put in place to protect the child, to be the voice for the children? That system is tossing these lambs back into the lion den. And once back in they raped, beaten, and/or murdered the second or third time they are "reunited". What the hell is wrong with the court system that allow unsupervised visitation by known child abusers or known child molesters, court systems that plea down felony charges against children to slaps on the wrists, court systems that let child molesters roam the streets unchecked or not monitored, only for them to re-offend again and again? The same court system where you get a longer court sentence for buying pot than you do for beating a child.

This pandemic is more dangerous than any H1N1 flu virus. Where is the panic? Where is the outrage? Where is the media coverage? Where is the government? They can bail out banks and car companies but can't protect our babies? What the hell is wrong with this world we live in?

I am just so sad, so angry, so heartbroken, so filled with pain.

Robert is only eight years old. He shouldn't be dead.
He should be outside playing on the swings, wondering what is for supper and if he can watch cartoons later. He shouldn't be sitting on an autopsy table.

I am sorry little man. I wish we knew. I wish we could have helped you or protected you.



Amen Pink.   ::MonkeyAngel::

And I'm afraid we are going to be even more outraged when we hear the details in this case.   ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: cece on August 04, 2009, 05:00:28 PM
Thanks Leroy, No Rose and all of you for the quick updates.

I apologize if y'all already know this, but I was able to confirm the Police report on Walli's suburban was filed on Monday the 27th, not on the 22nd as he alleged. He reported the theft and the recovery on the same day.

There is no doubt in my mind Robert was buried in that man's backyard temporarily.

Maybe I am missing something, how does a woman get a $75 fine and work release for fracturing her infants skull? How does she keep the other kids in an unsupervised setting? When will the courts decide to become proactive vs. reactive?
  

Thank you Blink for all the great work you do.  Once again, you were on top of it.   ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cherjers on August 04, 2009, 05:04:52 PM
And why was it voluntary manslaughter and not murder. Can anyone answer that for me.

Why was Robert's mom allowed to plead down to injury to a child when she was charged with felony child abuse?

The system that is in place to serve and protect the children, is letting them down as much as their parents. They are putting this lambs back into the lions den.

The judge that ordered unsupervised visitation for Robert with his mother, has Robert's blood on his/her hands tonight.

jmo
his face and name should be put on every news station and in every paper

The craziest thing IMO is that it was a female judge!

When Jenkins pleaded guilty to misdemeanor injury to a child on March 31, 2009, Judge Cathleen MacGregor Irby asked Jenkins what she did that "would make her guilty of that offense."

http://www.idahostatesman.com/boise/story/853332.html
  I hope Judge Cathleen does not have any children-If he does I pity them ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on August 04, 2009, 05:07:46 PM
Just came in from taking dogs out - HLN covering Robert's story now.

Also, OT - reporters released.  Link to story in musing and news of day


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cherjers on August 04, 2009, 05:08:58 PM
I doubt the twitter about asking mom to ID the body.

If that is Robert, in that heat after 10 days. In or out of the water, it wouldn't be something anyone should see. Nothing police would ask a parent to see. They are going to have to use dental records or DNA to ID the body. jmo



I hope they did drag them in to identify if they had anything to do with it.  That would be a tactic to make them crack, maybe????
people like them dont crack-they feel no remorse--just like KC


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 04, 2009, 05:16:56 PM
We live in a "me, me, me" world. It's all about "me." That is what we are fed in commercial after commericial on the media of every kind. Let's have something that goes faster than the next guy, that is shinier, or newer, or better, because you deserve it.

Yes, it is a "me" world, where a problem isn't my problem, but someone else should take care of it. It filters down through all of society, pass the buck, not my job. "I shouldn't have to do anything distasteful, or hard, or heartwrenching." Judges, LE, Child Protective Services can be infected with this attitude too. Neighbors turn their eye the other way, relatives, friends, passersby, "why should I be concerned?" "Just go to my job, put in my hours, and look forward to the weekend or the time off to relax. Close the door, and the blinds and ignore the horrors going on just outside or on the other side of the wall.

In each and every case we see, there are always warning signs. Warning signs from the perpetrator or from the victims. But most choose to ignore the bells and whistles going off. "Not my job." No demands are made to insure the safety of children, who cannot help themselves. I can guarantee there were warning signs, hundreds of them for Robert. Hundreds of times that someone saw something, and did nothing.

In the meantime, Michael Jackson has been dead for four weeks. And if you watch much of the news, it is like it just happened. I saw a full hour of raw home video of MJ playing with his children when they were younger on Nancy Grace last night. Can anyone explain why this is more important than a little helpless eight-year old boy being murderd in Idaho?? Can anyone tell me why it is more important than Lindsay Baum missing in Washington state?? Or Haleigh Cummings in Florida?? What pricetag is on the lives of our precious children, and how skewed is that?

Rest in Peace Robert Manwell.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 04, 2009, 05:23:36 PM
BRAVO FANNY!!  ::MonkeyCheer2::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 04, 2009, 05:24:57 PM
BRAVO FANNY!!  ::MonkeyCheer2::

 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tina Bee on August 04, 2009, 05:26:41 PM
We live in a "me, me, me" world. It's all about "me." That is what we are fed in commercial after commericial on the media of every kind. Let's have something that goes faster than the next guy, that is shinier, or newer, or better, because you deserve it.

Yes, it is a "me" world, where a problem isn't my problem, but someone else should take care of it. It filters down through all of society, pass the buck, not my job. "I shouldn't have to do anything distasteful, or hard, or heartwrenching." Judges, LE, Child Protective Services can be infected with this attitude too. Neighbors turn their eye the other way, relatives, friends, passersby, "why should I be concerned?" "Just go to my job, put in my hours, and look forward to the weekend or the time off to relax. Close the door, and the blinds and ignore the horrors going on just outside or on the other side of the wall.

In each and every case we see, there are always warning signs. Warning signs from the perpetrator or from the victims. But most choose to ignore the bells and whistles going off. "Not my job." No demands are made to insure the safety of children, who cannot help themselves. I can guarantee there were warning signs, hundreds of them for Robert. Hundreds of times that someone saw something, and did nothing.

In the meantime, Michael Jackson has been dead for four weeks. And if you watch much of the news, it is like it just happened. I saw a full hour of raw home video of MJ playing with his children when they were younger on Nancy Grace last night. Can anyone explain why this is more important than a little helpless eight-year old boy being murderd in Idaho?? Can anyone tell me why it is more important than Lindsay Baum missing in Washington state?? Or Haleigh Cummings in Florida?? What pricetag is on the lives of our precious children, and how skewed is that?

Rest in Peace Robert Manwell.  ::MonkeyAngel::

NG is in it purely for the ratings. She claims to "care" about the missing or the murdered, but everyday that's becoming less and less true.

She bashed MJ back in 2005 during his trial and now she can't get enough of airing his dirty laundry even in death. Let the man rest.

I didn't even know that little Jada Justice had been found dead because that was the same day MJ had died and NG has yet to report anything of her. Same thing goes for Haleigh, Adji, Lindsey...etc.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tina Bee on August 04, 2009, 05:30:32 PM
It was just reported on HLN Prime News that there's an opening to the New York Canal a mile and a half away from Robert's mother's apartment complex, but his body was found floating 5 miles away.

Since they were able to ID the body quickly I'm thinking it was that bloated and the family was allowed to come in and confirm it was him. That means he hadn't been out there very long which I find alarming.

Does anyone know if the area where Robert's body was found is close to SUV dude's home? I know his backyard was dug up and all that so I feel he is the biggest piece to this puzzle that's going to help solve this case.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 05:34:19 PM
Thanks Leroy, No Rose and all of you for the quick updates.

I apologize if y'all already know this, but I was able to confirm the Police report on Walli's suburban was filed on Monday the 27th, not on the 22nd as he alleged. He reported the theft and the recovery on the same day.

There is no doubt in my mind Robert was buried in that man's backyard temporarily.

Maybe I am missing something, how does a woman get a $75 fine and work release for fracturing her infants skull? How does she keep the other kids in an unsupervised setting? When will the courts decide to become proactive vs. reactive?
  

Thanks Blink - I was wondering if that was ever confirmed....sure seems strange to feel the need to repoort a vehicle stolen after you already have it back!  Wallis is up to no-good IMO.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 05:35:44 PM
Thanks Leroy, No Rose and all of you for the quick updates.

I apologize if y'all already know this, but I was able to confirm the Police report on Walli's suburban was filed on Monday the 27th, not on the 22nd as he alleged. He reported the theft and the recovery on the same day.

There is no doubt in my mind Robert was buried in that man's backyard temporarily.

Maybe I am missing something, how does a woman get a $75 fine and work release for fracturing her infants skull? How does she keep the other kids in an unsupervised setting? When will the courts decide to become proactive vs. reactive?
  

Blink - do you know if BPD have confirmation that Wallis was really out of town when Robert went missing?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 05:37:44 PM
It was just reported on HLN Prime News that there's an opening to the New York Canal a mile and a half away from Robert's mother's apartment complex, but his body was found floating 5 miles away.

Since they were able to ID the body quickly I'm thinking it was that bloated and the family was allowed to come in and confirm it was him. That means he hadn't been out there very long which I find alarming.

Does anyone know if the area where Robert's body was found is close to SUV dude's home? I know his backyard was dug up and all that so I feel he is the biggest piece to this puzzle that's going to help solve this case.

I thought it was 1/2 mile away...but I'll go back and check.

I hope the mom had to ID him...however she probably wouldn't care anyways.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 05:41:45 PM
It was just reported on HLN Prime News that there's an opening to the New York Canal a mile and a half away from Robert's mother's apartment complex, but his body was found floating 5 miles away.

Since they were able to ID the body quickly I'm thinking it was that bloated and the family was allowed to come in and confirm it was him. That means he hadn't been out there very long which I find alarming.

Does anyone know if the area where Robert's body was found is close to SUV dude's home? I know his backyard was dug up and all that so I feel he is the biggest piece to this puzzle that's going to help solve this case.


What HLN reported was in all the papers yesterday. Where the body was found was 14 miles away by car from the apartment, 2 miles away from the house that was searched.

Quote
The canal is about two miles southwest of a home Boise police searched Friday night — but it’s also connected to the New York Canal, which runs less than half a mile south of the Vista Avenue apartment complex from which Manwill was reported missing.
http://www.idahopress.com/?2009-08-03-Police-cancel-missing-boy-press-conference-to-investigate-possible-lead



Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 05:44:30 PM
It was just reported on HLN Prime News that there's an opening to the New York Canal a mile and a half away from Robert's mother's apartment complex, but his body was found floating 5 miles away.

Since they were able to ID the body quickly I'm thinking it was that bloated and the family was allowed to come in and confirm it was him. That means he hadn't been out there very long which I find alarming.

Does anyone know if the area where Robert's body was found is close to SUV dude's home? I know his backyard was dug up and all that so I feel he is the biggest piece to this puzzle that's going to help solve this case.


What HLN reported was in all the papers yesterday. Where the body was found was 14 miles away by car from the apartment, 2 miles away from the house that was searched.

Quote
The canal is about two miles southwest of a home Boise police searched Friday night — but it’s also connected to the New York Canal, which runs less than half a mile south of the Vista Avenue apartment complex from which Manwill was reported missing.
http://www.idahopress.com/?2009-08-03-Police-cancel-missing-boy-press-conference-to-investigate-possible-lead


Not by car sorry.
As a crow flies it's about 8 miles, or 14 miles miles of water way.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 05:45:18 PM
Thanks for finding it Pink...my eyes are going nuts from reading all these articles today!


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 05:46:37 PM
(http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af35/missingpersonscases/Robert%20Manwill/mapofarea.jpg)


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 05:49:24 PM
Thanks for finding it Pink...my eyes are going nuts from reading all these articles today!

No problem. :)
My eyes are tired too.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 05:51:46 PM
WTH - is anyone watching HLN...mom drags child on leash???!!!!   


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 05:52:41 PM
WTH - is anyone watching HLN...mom drags child on leash???!!!!   

To clarify, it is not THIS mom...another story...sorry for the O/T


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 05:57:08 PM
Link for presser

http://www.ktvb.com/video/?nvid=57412&live=yes


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 06:01:34 PM
Vigil being planned for Friday at 8pm...presser starting


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 06:05:40 PM
Priority remains finding answers to Robert's death.

Thanking the community.

The answers they provide must come from a through investigation and evidence.

They continue to investigate.

Don't jump to conclusion and speculate. Answers must come from evidence.

Family asks for their privacy to be respected.

KVTB, from the coroner. Had decomposed so bad had to use dental records. He had been in the water a long time.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: cherjers on August 04, 2009, 06:08:30 PM
 excellent post  excellent
We live in a "me, me, me" world. It's all about "me." That is what we are fed in commercial after commericial on the media of every kind. Let's have something that goes faster than the next guy, that is shinier, or newer, or better, because you deserve it.

Yes, it is a "me" world, where a problem isn't my problem, but someone else should take care of it. It filters down through all of society, pass the buck, not my job. "I shouldn't have to do anything distasteful, or hard, or heartwrenching." Judges, LE, Child Protective Services can be infected with this attitude too. Neighbors turn their eye the other way, relatives, friends, passersby, "why should I be concerned?" "Just go to my job, put in my hours, and look forward to the weekend or the time off to relax. Close the door, and the blinds and ignore the horrors going on just outside or on the other side of the wall.

In each and every case we see, there are always warning signs. Warning signs from the perpetrator or from the victims. But most choose to ignore the bells and whistles going off. "Not my job." No demands are made to insure the safety of children, who cannot help themselves. I can guarantee there were warning signs, hundreds of them for Robert. Hundreds of times that someone saw something, and did nothing.

In the meantime, Michael Jackson has been dead for four weeks. And if you watch much of the news, it is like it just happened. I saw a full hour of raw home video of MJ playing with his children when they were younger on Nancy Grace last night. Can anyone explain why this is more important than a little helpless eight-year old boy being murderd in Idaho?? Can anyone tell me why it is more important than Lindsay Baum missing in Washington state?? Or Haleigh Cummings in Florida?? What pricetag is on the lives of our precious children, and how skewed is that?

Rest in Peace Robert Manwell.  ::MonkeyAngel::
excellent post -- you are so right!!!!!


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 06:20:16 PM
In a Tuesday press conference scheduled after the Ada County Coronor "tentatively" identified a dead boy found in the New York Canal as Robert, Kerns said police were engaged in a "very active" investigation, but cautioned against speculating about what could have happened and not to jump to any conclusions.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/855363.html

Question remains: How did Robert Manwill die?

"A news conference held at 4 p.m. by the Boise Police Department did not reveal any additional information. Click here to sign up for an alert to be informed when we learn more.

"Finding Robert will not be the end, but just the begining of an entirely new investigation," Boise Police Deputy Chief Jim Kerns said Tuesday afternoon.

Kerns made a brief statement, but did not take questions from the media."
http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0309-kuna_canal_body.a50d15f2.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Kat_Gram on August 04, 2009, 06:35:01 PM
So, if he got the SUV back on the 27th and reported it on the 27th ? How did he even know it was gone and on what date ? This dude makes no sense. Who's he the closest to ? The bf ?  This is like Cindy Ant trying to report her car stolen after she has it back ? 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 04, 2009, 06:38:57 PM
So, if he got the SUV back on the 27th and reported it on the 27th ? How did he even know it was gone and on what date ? This dude makes no sense. Who's he the closest to ? The bf ?  This is like Cindy Ant trying to report her car stolen after she has it back ? 
I would like to know who he is the closest too also, and what was the real point in why he called to say his SUV had been stolen?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 06:44:33 PM
So, if he got the SUV back on the 27th and reported it on the 27th ? How did he even know it was gone and on what date ? This dude makes no sense. Who's he the closest to ? The bf ?  This is like Cindy Ant trying to report her car stolen after she has it back ? 

Wallis is friends' with David E. Which is Daniel (Melissa's BF) brother. He said he knows Daniel and Melissa but is friends with David.

The whole story to me in hinky. I questioned it from the first article. I will find it and bump it.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Sassycat on August 04, 2009, 06:46:32 PM
NEW BLINK POST:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/08/04/body-of-missing-idaho-child-robert-manwill-found-in-canal/

Body of Missing Idaho Child Robert Manwill Found in Canal


 ::MonkeyNoNo::   ::MonkeyWaa::   Rest in Peace Robert. 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 06:57:05 PM
So, if he got the SUV back on the 27th and reported it on the 27th ? How did he even know it was gone and on what date ? This dude makes no sense. Who's he the closest to ? The bf ?  This is like Cindy Ant trying to report her car stolen after she has it back ? 
I would like to know who he is the closest too also, and what was the real point in why he called to say his SUV had been stolen?

IMO the only reason you would make a report is if you knew that there was evidence of a missing child in your vehicle. Only explanation I can come up with! 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 04, 2009, 07:00:54 PM
NEW BLINK POST:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/08/04/body-of-missing-idaho-child-robert-manwill-found-in-canal/

Body of Missing Idaho Child Robert Manwill Found in Canal


 ::MonkeyNoNo::   ::MonkeyWaa::   Rest in Peace Robert. 


Even though we 'knew' it was Robert when the body was found....it still slams right into your heart to have it verified.  Bless his heart. He is at peace and no harm can come to him now.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 07:01:06 PM
Perriwinkle - I see you up there...where have you been??  Good to see you.

Tragic about Robert though...however I believe he is in a much better place now  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 07:06:57 PM
Search for Robert Manwill turns grim
Man 'sick' as police search his yard; father of mother's boyfriend says son accused him
BY BRIAN MURPHY - bmurphy@idahostatesman.com
Copyright: © 2009 Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/01/09


The man whose Boise home and yard were being searched Friday night for evidence related to Robert Manwill's disappearance says he knows the 8-year-old's family but has no idea what may have happened to him.

Evan Wallis told the Idaho Statesman that he doesn't know what police are looking for at his rental home in the 6600 block of Southdale Avenue, near Five Mile Road in Southwest Boise.

"If it's going to help anything, do it," Wallis said. He said he knows Robert's mother and her boyfriend but is much closer to the boyfriend's brother, David Ehrlick. "I'm innocent. I'm an innocent bystander."

Wallis' comments came after 24 hours of drama that began with a Thursday night police search of the apartment near Vista Avenue where Manwill's mother, Melissa Jenkins, lives with her boyfriend, Daniel Ehrlick Jr.

On Friday, police said they had discovered "suspicious circumstances," and as night fell authorities were searching Wallis' backyard.

The Statesman interviewed Wallis at David Ehrlick's home in the 2800 block of Bannock Street. Also interviewed there was Daniel Ehrlick Sr., the father of David Ehrlick and Daniel Ehrlick Jr.

Daniel Ehrlick Sr. said that his son Daniel had accused him of taking Robert and that police had questioned him repeatedly.

THE BACKYARD SEARCH, A STOLEN SUBURBAN

Wallis said the police were digging up his backyard after bloodhounds picked up a scent at his house.

He said his black-and-gray Chevy Suburban was stolen July 22 after someone came into his house and took the keys. He found it Monday after returning from a weekend away and called the Ada County Sheriff's Department.

When officials investigated, he told them of his connection to the Ehrlick family.

"I mentioned that I know these guys. I've met the little boy," Wallis said.

Wallis said he last saw Robert at David Ehrlick's home a few months ago.

He said he and his wife have been re-doing their backyard, planting grass and adding a sandbox. He said he did not notice any disturbances in the backyard, which he said was large and had "a lot of junk" in it.

"It makes me sick to know this is going down at my house right now," he said. "I didn't do nothing back there. I'm not going to say for the record nothing's back there because I don't know. Maybe something did happen along the lines when I was out of town."

EHRLICH'S FATHER: MY SON ACCUSED ME

A man Robert called "Grandpa" said Friday that he has been questioned repeatedly by investigators after his older son accused him of taking Robert and told investigators the same thing.

Daniel Ehrlick Sr., a former Marine who served in Vietnam, said he thought he saw Robert on the day he was reported missing when he stopped by Ehrlick Jr.'s apartment to drop off money to help pay bills.

"(Ehrlick Jr.) told me that Robert was down in the back. When I came to the door, I don't know if it was then that I spotted it, or I spotted it before, but I spotted another boy that looked just like Robert with a white T-shirt on," Ehrlick Sr. said.

Investigators have said Robert was wearing a blue Superman T-shirt at the time of his disappearance.

"I haven't talked to him since he accused me Sunday. I haven't talked to him," Ehrlick Sr. said. "I don't know if (Jenkins and Ehrlick Jr. have) been real truthful with me."

David Ehrlick, Ehrlick Sr.'s youngest son, said he was with his father the entire day on Friday.

Ehrlick Sr. said he used to pick up Robert at his father's house in New Plymouth and bring him to Boise. He teared up as he discussed the missing child while smoking a cigarette in his front yard.

Ehrlick Sr. and his youngest son, David, told a story of a boy that was constantly in trouble with his mother for the pettiest of infractions. David Ehrlick said that Robert was not allowed to go outside and play during a recent birthday party.

"It was scary around her with her children. Robert would get in trouble for everything. It didn't matter if it was asking a question, he'd get grounded. He'd have to sit on his hands," said David Ehrlick. "He's just a little boy."

Said Ehrlick Sr.: "That's why I was afraid to even say, 'Robert, let's go fishing.'"

They said that they told investigators their concern when Jenkins was investigated for injuring her infant in October 2008.

Ehrlick Sr. praised the volunteers and investigators.

"People have been awesome. I just wish there was something I could do for all the people involved," he said. "In my opinion, the Boise police are doing a good job."

POLICE AT THE APARTMENT, THE LANDFILL, THE HOUSE

The police and FBI have been investigating some of the people closest to Robert - including the boy's mother, her boyfriend and his father.

After spending hours searching the apartment shared by Jenkins and Ehrlick Jr. - and removing at least two cars from the Oak Park Village apartment complex near Vista Avenue - police announced that they had found new evidence that showed Robert could have been "the victim of a tragic event." They asked the more than 2,300 volunteers scouring Boise to start looking for signs of a crime.

Meanwhile, officers converged on Wallis' home and cordoned off an area of the Hidden Hollow Landfill that had been left alone since trash was dumped there the morning after Robert was reported missing.

Landfill operators said they could use a backhoe to spread Saturday's refuse thin enough to be searched, if asked.

Boise police had said all week that they had no reason to suspect foul play and had no suspects. But friends and family members say officers had been examining several people close to Robert.

Sean Buffington, who lives upstairs and across the hall from the apartment shared by Jenkins and Ehrlick Jr., said Ehrlick Jr. told him last Sunday that "basically the two of them were the No. 1 suspects" already.

"He said they had been through the wringer as far as interrogations," Buffington said.

Jenkins is on parole after pleading guilty to a misdemeanor charge of injury to a child in relation to an October 2008 incident that left her infant with a fractured skull.

Ehrlick Jr. has been convicted of burglary, battery and possession of drug paraphernalia, and is banned by the courts from being alone with Robert's half-sister.

The couple, who had appeared but not spoken at many of the police updates, did not attend Friday's news conference.

A Saint Alphonsus Regional Medical Center spokesperson said Friday that Ehrlick Jr. had been admitted and released from the hospital but did not say exactly when or for what he was treated.

Police plan a news conference at noon Saturday to update the public.

Brian Murphy: 377-6444. Reporters Rocky Barker, Cynthia Sewell, Anna Webb and Bethann Stewart contributed.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/852598.html

Someone 'came into his house and took the keys'. That's an odd choice of words.

I would have said someone must have broke into my house and stole the keys.

Innocent bystanders usually are standing by watching but they don't participate in any crime that is taking place.

Odd choice of words too.

Convenient that he was gone for the weekend and when he returned he just happen to "find" the "stolen" SUV.

My hinky meter is going off big-time.

He is covering for someone.

Quote
http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html?video=YHI&t=a
In this video Wallis clearly says - I was devastated that my truck was being considered part of this "murder" (then quickly catches himself and says...) "case" with Robert.


Boise man's home searched in Manwill disappearance
Story Updated: Aug 1, 2009 at 6:50 PM MDT
By Jen Wahl


BOISE - Friday evening and Saturday morning, authorities looking for 8-year-old Robert Manwill focused their efforts on Evan Wallis' Boise home and blue Suburban.

"I was devastated that my truck was being considered part of this case with Robert," Wallis said.

The Homeowner, Wallis, says he has three boys of his own and is an innocent bystander in the investigation.

Wallis says he welcomed authorities to his backyard to search for anything that may lead them to the little boy.

"I have complete cooperation with them because it is a little boy that needs to be found," he said.

Wallis says police searched his home after bloodhounds picked up a scent on his Suburban. He says his truck was stolen on July 22, just two days before Robert disappeared. Then it turned back up on Monday and Wallis notified the Ada County Sheriff's Office.

"And that's what lead them to come back here and get a warrant to come dig up our backyard," Wallis said. "I told them go ahead just as long as you just leave things the way they were when you're done."

At a news conference earlier this afternoon, Boise Deputy Chief Jim Kerns says he couldn't tell CBS 2 anything about the search on Wallis' property, and they're looking into more than 300 tips.

"At this point the investigation to find Robert is an hour by hour effort," Kerns said. "The lead detectives are constantly evaluating evidence and focusing resources."

Wallis says the only thing investigators were going to find in his home were freshly dug dirt from grass he was planting and a few tree stumps.

Although he says he knows the Ehrlick family very well, he wasn't very close to Melissa Jenkin's or her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick.

Wallis says he hopes the investigation helps lead police to 8-year-old Robert Manwill and is glad he was able to help.

http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html

BUMP


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: cece on August 04, 2009, 07:07:16 PM
NEW BLINK POST:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/08/04/body-of-missing-idaho-child-robert-manwill-found-in-canal/

Body of Missing Idaho Child Robert Manwill Found in Canal


 ::MonkeyNoNo::   ::MonkeyWaa::   Rest in Peace Robert. 

 


Even though we 'knew' it was Robert when the body was found....it still slams right into your heart to have it verified.  Bless his heart. He is at peace and no harm can come to him now.

You are so right Sunny.  We knew this was coming, but I don't think we are ever prepared for the effect it has on us each time it is verified.  I feel the same way you do.   ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 07:08:02 PM
Alright I'm gonna give Wallis the benefit of the doubt for a second...lets say he found out that something happened to Robert...and he thought maybe mom's b/f was involved...and that it involved his SUV and/or property (if he was in fact out of town).  Perhaps he reported the SUV stolen in hopes or thinking BPD would find it *odd* since he knew Roberts mom.  And maybe he wanted to them to investigate it in some way.  Afterall he was cooperative with BPD. 

And this would be his was of *not really* snitching....


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 07:10:15 PM
Quote
"I told them go ahead just as long as you just leave things the way they were when you're done."
They had a warrant, they were not asking your permission. Jerkwad.
Just as long as you leave things the way they were when you're done? Who says that when a boy is missing/possibly dead?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 04, 2009, 07:12:20 PM
So, if he got the SUV back on the 27th and reported it on the 27th ? How did he even know it was gone and on what date ? This dude makes no sense. Who's he the closest to ? The bf ?  This is like Cindy Ant trying to report her car stolen after she has it back ? 
omg the exact same...with cindy i think it was to put the screws to skanky..but this guy i don't know...if he knew what was up then i would hope that with getting to police involved he would realize the result...DON"T get me wrong...i have no love for this dude...but i wonder if he did find his suv that day (not at his house where he left it) so he reported it.  even if him and bf were friends...if bf is involved i have a feeling that he would do whatever it took to keep the spotlight on someone else.

i could be wrong.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 07:15:37 PM
Alright I'm gonna give Wallis the benefit of the doubt for a second...lets say he found out that something happened to Robert...and he thought maybe mom's b/f was involved...and that it involved his SUV and/or property (if he was in fact out of town).  Perhaps he reported the SUV stolen in hopes or thinking BPD would find it *odd* since he knew Roberts mom.  And maybe he wanted to them to investigate it in some way.  Afterall he was cooperative with BPD. 

And this would be his was of *not really* snitching....

I can buy that. That thought did run across my mind, he was either covering and knew or he had an idea that Danny had borrowed his truck and didn't want to make it an issue but after Robert went missing he put two and two together and knew that his truck may have played a role and called it in as stolen and "mentioned" to the police by the way, I know the missing boy's mom and boyfriend.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 04, 2009, 07:20:30 PM
Alright I'm gonna give Wallis the benefit of the doubt for a second...lets say he found out that something happened to Robert...and he thought maybe mom's b/f was involved...and that it involved his SUV and/or property (if he was in fact out of town).  Perhaps he reported the SUV stolen in hopes or thinking BPD would find it *odd* since he knew Roberts mom.  And maybe he wanted to them to investigate it in some way.  Afterall he was cooperative with BPD. 

And this would be his was of *not really* snitching....

I can buy that. That thought did run across my mind, he was either covering and knew or he had an idea that Danny had borrowed his truck and didn't want to make it an issue but after Robert went missing he put two and two together and knew that his truck may have played a role and called it in as stolen and "mentioned" to the police by the way, I know the missing boy's mom and boyfriend.
maybe Danny had borrowed the suv for a 'different' reason and when the truck was gone for 2 days as well as Robert (then the truck shows up again) thats when he reports it.  maybe he lent the truck to Danny for a reason he wouldn't feel comfortable admitting to the police so he waited??


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 07:26:17 PM
Alright I'm gonna give Wallis the benefit of the doubt for a second...lets say he found out that something happened to Robert...and he thought maybe mom's b/f was involved...and that it involved his SUV and/or property (if he was in fact out of town).  Perhaps he reported the SUV stolen in hopes or thinking BPD would find it *odd* since he knew Roberts mom.  And maybe he wanted to them to investigate it in some way.  Afterall he was cooperative with BPD. 

And this would be his was of *not really* snitching....

I can buy that. That thought did run across my mind, he was either covering and knew or he had an idea that Danny had borrowed his truck and didn't want to make it an issue but after Robert went missing he put two and two together and knew that his truck may have played a role and called it in as stolen and "mentioned" to the police by the way, I know the missing boy's mom and boyfriend.
maybe Danny had borrowed the suv for a 'different' reason and when the truck was gone for 2 days as well as Robert (then the truck shows up again) thats when he reports it.  maybe he lent the truck to Danny for a reason he wouldn't feel comfortable admitting to the police so he waited??

Yep, and no matter which way you slice it, Wallis knows something.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 07:32:14 PM
Ada County Coroner says the fact Robert Manwill was found in water makes it harder to determine his cause of death
Kathleen Kreller and Patrick Orr - Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/04/09

Boise Deputy Police Chief Jim Kerns said local police and federal investigators remain dedicated to "finding answers" for 8-year-old Robert Manwill's family and the Treasure Valley community that has come together in the 11 days since the boy was reported missing July 24.

"Finding Robert will not be the end, but just the beginning of an entirely new investigation," he said.

In a Tuesday press conference scheduled after the Ada County Coronor "tentatively" identified a dead boy found in the New York Canal as Robert, Kerns said police were engaged in a "very active" investigation, but cautioned against speculating about what could have happened and not to jump to any conclusions.

Police have to "focus on evidence," he said.

Kerns said Robert's family is still in close contact with police and being updated throughout the investigation.

"We ask that you continue to keep Robert, his family and the dedicated investigators in your thoughts," he said.

Earlier Tuesday, the coroner's office said that the boy found in a canal between Boise and Kuna Monday was most likely Robert.

Positive identification will be released as soon as this office receives the dental records and the forensic odontologist can compare the findings," the office said in a release. "We are working closely with the Boise Police Department and our preliminary results are being turned over to Boise police to help further their investigation."

Coroners regularly use dental records to confirm identity of victims, said Ada County Coroner Erwin Sonnenberg.

"We feel tentatively that's him and we need to do the dental identification" Sonnenberg said. "That would be a bizarre situation...another kid the same size."

The report issued Tuesday does not indicate a cause of death, that is "pending investigation." It also says the place of death is "unknown."

"I'm sure a cause of death will be released down the road," Sonnenberg said Tuesday. "Everything has got to be put together to find out just what has happened."

Sonnenberg said water complicates his work.

"You can't assume as much as quickly," he said. "Now you have to add the fact that you have...decomposition in water which greatly complicates the case."


Robert was reported missing at 10:11 p.m. on Friday, July 24. Since then, hundreds of local and federal law enforcement officers and more than 2,000 citizen volunteers have been searching to find him.

Two people called 911 Monday after seeing the body of a small boy floating in the New York Canal — the same one that crosses Vista Avenue less than a half-mile from the apartment where Robert was reportedly last seen.

The New York Canal is 47 miles long between the diversion dam on the Boise River and Lake Lowell, according to Paul Deveau, project manager for the Boise Project Board of Control.

Deveau estimates from the Vista Avenue apartment to where Manwill's body was found as a roughly 18-mile stretch.

There are no gates or grates between those two locations to stop a body, he said. And it would take more than a week for a body to float that far, he said.

"We deal with this a lot," Devaue said. "Usually, any place from Broadway to Gowen Road...if somebody goes in that area, it's going to be one to two weeks before we see them at Cloverdale."

Deveau said the canal company opened up access roads for Boise Police to conduct a thorough search of the canal after Manwill went missing.

There are a set of "body gates" at Cloverdale Road, Deveau said, but the canal company must lower them into place. That didn't happen, because Boise police "thought he wasn't in the canal so we didn't put the gates in," he said.

Boise police officials announced last week they had found undisclosed evidence indicating that Robert could be injured or the "victim of a tragic event." They still have not identified any suspects or people of interest in the case.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/855363.html

http://videos.idahostatesman.com/vmix_hosted_apps/p/media?id=5447313&item_in%20dex=1&all=1&sort=NULL
Link to Tuesday's press conference.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on August 04, 2009, 07:36:54 PM
I just got home and read that it was Robert that was found. I knew in my heart yesterday because the hair on my arms was standing on end.

I just want to say to you Little Man: I didn't know you were missing, once I found out, you were in my prayers and I am so sorry that you are gone. I send up prayers for you, for your father, your brother, your stepmother and I will try in my heart of hearts to send up prayers for your mother as well.

Sleep well with Jesus tonight Little Man, may the Angels bless and keep you.

 ::MonkeyAngel:: JSM


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 07:43:36 PM
Robert's Uncle Layn at little man's memorial.
 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: sunshine12 on August 04, 2009, 07:58:12 PM
Thanks Leroy, No Rose and all of you for the quick updates.

I apologize if y'all already know this, but I was able to confirm the Police report on Walli's suburban was filed on Monday the 27th, not on the 22nd as he alleged. He reported the theft and the recovery on the same day.

There is no doubt in my mind Robert was buried in that man's backyard temporarily.

Maybe I am missing something, how does a woman get a $75 fine and work release for fracturing her infants skull? How does she keep the other kids in an unsupervised setting? When will the courts decide to become proactive vs. reactive?
  

i agree that robert was buried in the backyard. i also think that the fact he was found in the canal 2 miles from that property speaks volumes.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tina Bee on August 04, 2009, 08:07:54 PM
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9426/boisediversiondam.th.jpg) (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/boisediversiondam.jpg/)

^^^Boise Diversion Dam and Power Plant

This website tells us a little more about the New York Canal and the Boise Diversion Dam.

In this picture it looks like the 'body gates' are visible. On HLN they were saying that yesterday the gates were up.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 08:08:05 PM
Canal info:
47 miles long
Fast moving
Deep and strong.

according to the reporter on JVM


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tina Bee on August 04, 2009, 08:11:28 PM
Here's the link to the Boise Diversion Dam website:

http://www.usbr.gov/cultural/idaho.html


Evan Wallis 'SUV dude' seems to be involved in this case whether directly or indirectly. Even if his home is 1/2 a mile or 2 miles away the body was closer to his home than it was to Robert's mother's apartment complex.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: cookie on August 04, 2009, 08:14:17 PM
So, if he got the SUV back on the 27th and reported it on the 27th ? How did he even know it was gone and on what date ? This dude makes no sense. Who's he the closest to ? The bf ?  This is like Cindy Ant trying to report her car stolen after she has it back ? 
I would like to know who he is the closest too also, and what was the real point in why he called to say his SUV had been stolen?

IMO the only reason you would make a report is if you knew that there was evidence of a missing child in your vehicle. Only explanation I can come up with! 

sounds logical to me too Leroy


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 08:15:20 PM
Here's the link to the Boise Diversion Dam website:

http://www.usbr.gov/cultural/idaho.html


Evan Wallis 'SUV dude' seems to be involved in this case whether directly or indirectly. Even if his home is 1/2 a mile or 2 miles away the body was closer to his home than it was to Robert's mother's apartment complex.

Thanks for the link Tina!


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 04, 2009, 08:17:33 PM
Alright I'm gonna give Wallis the benefit of the doubt for a second...lets say he found out that something happened to Robert...and he thought maybe mom's b/f was involved...and that it involved his SUV and/or property (if he was in fact out of town).  Perhaps he reported the SUV stolen in hopes or thinking BPD would find it *odd* since he knew Roberts mom.  And maybe he wanted to them to investigate it in some way.  Afterall he was cooperative with BPD. 

And this would be his was of *not really* snitching....

I can buy that. That thought did run across my mind, he was either covering and knew or he had an idea that Danny had borrowed his truck and didn't want to make it an issue but after Robert went missing he put two and two together and knew that his truck may have played a role and called it in as stolen and "mentioned" to the police by the way, I know the missing boy's mom and boyfriend.
maybe Danny had borrowed the suv for a 'different' reason and when the truck was gone for 2 days as well as Robert (then the truck shows up again) thats when he reports it.  maybe he lent the truck to Danny for a reason he wouldn't feel comfortable admitting to the police so he waited??

Yep, and no matter which way you slice it, Wallis knows something.

I think that "murder" slip was telling, and the fact that it is being edited out of the video now, is even more so. He knows stuff. It may not have been Daniel that walked into the house and took the keys for the Suburban. He was better friends with David and grampa lived close by, as I understand it. The grampa was enabling Daniel already with money already, so no telling how far he would go to help. Nobody is out from under the microscope with me. I think Daniel and Melissa were probably who killed him, but they could have had help with the body. Till I see something different, I hold my view. For God's sakes, an 8 yr old was killed. It is hard to wrap your brain around some of this stuff. This story is going to get a lot worse.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Kat_Gram on August 04, 2009, 08:18:00 PM
If I come home and find my purse in the place where it usually is, do I call the police and tell them that, I was out of town without my purse, it was stolen, but I now have it ? Can you come here and fill out a stolen purse  form ?
..
I am not trying to be funny, but his SUV dude is a candidate for a questioning.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 04, 2009, 08:22:53 PM
If I come home and find my purse in the place where it usually is, do I call the police and tell them that, I was out of town without my purse, it was stolen, but I now have it ? Can you come here and fill out a stolen purse  form ?
..
I am not trying to be funny, but his SUV dude is a candidate for a questioning.
i agree, however, why alert the police (if you were involved?)


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 08:23:12 PM
If I come home and find my purse in the place where it usually is, do I call the police and tell them that, I was out of town without my purse, it was stolen, but I now have it ? Can you come here and fill out a stolen purse  form ?
..
I am not trying to be funny, but his SUV dude is a candidate for a questioning.

Exactly!  Makes no sense to me.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 08:23:58 PM
If I come home and find my purse in the place where it usually is, do I call the police and tell them that, I was out of town without my purse, it was stolen, but I now have it ? Can you come here and fill out a stolen purse  form ?
..
I am not trying to be funny, but his SUV dude is a candidate for a questioning.
i agree, however, why alert the police (if you were involved?)

Either to "set the stage" or to "tip them off"....IMO


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 04, 2009, 08:25:31 PM
If I come home and find my purse in the place where it usually is, do I call the police and tell them that, I was out of town without my purse, it was stolen, but I now have it ? Can you come here and fill out a stolen purse  form ?
..
I am not trying to be funny, but his SUV dude is a candidate for a questioning.
i agree, however, why alert the police (if you were involved?)
i just answered my question in my head....he reports it stolen when he was 'out-of-town' to put it out there that ---hey, i wasn't even in town...but something is up with my truck...oh, it was stolen...yeah..while i was out of town..'


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: sunshine12 on August 04, 2009, 08:32:08 PM
yea i think wallis def knows something, i am of the opinion that the mother or boyfriend put robert in wallis' back yard, wallis made a comment about how he did yard work recently which is possible because people do tend to do yardwork in the summer but it's still all too coincidental to me especially with him talking about the recent "yard work" he did in an article, to me this says he is clearly covering something up


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Kat_Gram on August 04, 2009, 08:34:36 PM
SUV dude ( Evan Wallis ) made some unkind comments about the bio egg donor didn't he ?
Thanks for the updates and the bump of the article. I did see part of his interview, and even then, I thought, you know alot dude. 
Oh and he wanted the yard put back the way it way, it looked like Croatia after the Serbs ran thru the place before.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 08:36:48 PM
SUV dude ( Evan Wallis ) made some unkind comments about the bio egg donor didn't he ?
Thanks for the updates and the bump of the article. I did see part of his interview, and even then, I thought, you know alot dude. 
Oh and he wanted the yard put back the way it way, it looked like Croatia after the Serbs ran thru the place before.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on August 04, 2009, 08:49:01 PM
yea i think wallis def knows something, i am of the opinion that the mother or boyfriend put robert in wallis' back yard, wallis made a comment about how he did yard work recently which is possible because people do tend to do yardwork in the summer but it's still all too coincidental to me especially with him talking about the recent "yard work" he did in an article, to me this says he is clearly covering something up
Kind of like putting new pavers out on the 4th of July?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 08:50:38 PM
SUV dude ( Evan Wallis ) made some unkind comments about the bio egg donor didn't he ?
Thanks for the updates and the bump of the article. I did see part of his interview, and even then, I thought, you know alot dude. 
Oh and he wanted the yard put back the way it way, it looked like Croatia after the Serbs ran thru the place before.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Exactly!
Please leave my junkyard filled with dirt and cars, a junkyard filled with dirt and cars when you are done k?


It was said mom had to be held up as she left the police station in tears yesterday, and it was said she attended the vigil last night that was held across the street from the apartments, it was also stated in an article that she was at work when Robert turned up missing and the boyfriend was watching Robert.

Now, I am not giving a mom a pass by no means but just tossing this out there.

What if when the baby turned up hurt, she took the rap for the baby being hurt to cover for the boyfriend? Or had bumped the babies head  by accident but a previous injury done by the boyfriend (perhaps that day or the day before) was the one that caused baby's fracture?

What if she doesn't know what happened to Robert because she was at work?

What if the BF is the guilty one?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 08:54:43 PM
SUV dude ( Evan Wallis ) made some unkind comments about the bio egg donor didn't he ?
Thanks for the updates and the bump of the article. I did see part of his interview, and even then, I thought, you know alot dude. 
Oh and he wanted the yard put back the way it way, it looked like Croatia after the Serbs ran thru the place before.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Exactly!
Please leave my junkyard filled with dirt and cars, a junkyard filled with dirt and cars when you are done k?


It was said mom had to be held up as she left the police station in tears yesterday, and it was said she attended the vigil last night that was held across the street from the apartments, it was also stated in an article that she was at work when Robert turned up missing and the boyfriend was watching Robert.

Now, I am not giving a mom a pass by no means but just tossing this out there.

What if when the baby turned up hurt, she took the rap for the baby being hurt to cover for the boyfriend? Or had bumped the babies head  by accident but a previous injury done by the boyfriend (perhaps that day or the day before) was the one that caused baby's fracture?

What if she doesn't know what happened to Robert because she was at work?

What if the BF is the guilty one?

Pink - get outta my head  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Seriously, I've thought about this but honestly if this were the case her behavior sure hasn't indicated so.  She has been "absent" over the last week...no pressers, no vigils, etc.  Strange behavior for a mom who doesn't know what happened!  JMO



Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 04, 2009, 08:55:19 PM
Alright I'm gonna give Wallis the benefit of the doubt for a second...lets say he found out that something happened to Robert...and he thought maybe mom's b/f was involved...and that it involved his SUV and/or property (if he was in fact out of town).  Perhaps he reported the SUV stolen in hopes or thinking BPD would find it *odd* since he knew Roberts mom.  And maybe he wanted to them to investigate it in some way.  Afterall he was cooperative with BPD. 

And this would be his was of *not really* snitching....

That is what I think Leroy.  I think Wallis is on the up and up.  He may know that certain people take his SUV from time to time with out his prior permission.  He may know that Robert's Mom's BF did that before.  He left to go away on Friday for the weekend.  He comes back Monday..the SUV is back, which is normal, but he finds out Robert is missing..so he reports this to LE.  Wednesday was the 22nd...I think Robert was already murdered at that time..Monday was the 27th when Wallis returned.  He put two and two together and came up with Robert's Mom and BF.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: GRAPEAPE on August 04, 2009, 09:01:43 PM
DOES ANYONE KNOW WERE THE GUY WAS WHEN HIS SUV WAS STOLEN-HAS IT BEEN CONFIRMED HE WAS OUT OF TOWN?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 04, 2009, 09:03:02 PM
I'm beginning to wonder if the boyfriend is the one who did something to Robert, and the mom was at work.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 09:03:51 PM
DOES ANYONE KNOW WERE THE GUY WAS WHEN HIS SUV WAS STOLEN-HAS IT BEEN CONFIRMED HE WAS OUT OF TOWN?

Not that I know of...I was hoping Blink would know..or be able to find out. 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 09:04:39 PM
SUV dude ( Evan Wallis ) made some unkind comments about the bio egg donor didn't he ?
Thanks for the updates and the bump of the article. I did see part of his interview, and even then, I thought, you know alot dude. 
Oh and he wanted the yard put back the way it way, it looked like Croatia after the Serbs ran thru the place before.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Exactly!
Please leave my junkyard filled with dirt and cars, a junkyard filled with dirt and cars when you are done k?


It was said mom had to be held up as she left the police station in tears yesterday, and it was said she attended the vigil last night that was held across the street from the apartments, it was also stated in an article that she was at work when Robert turned up missing and the boyfriend was watching Robert.

Now, I am not giving a mom a pass by no means but just tossing this out there.

What if when the baby turned up hurt, she took the rap for the baby being hurt to cover for the boyfriend? Or had bumped the babies head  by accident but a previous injury done by the boyfriend (perhaps that day or the day before) was the one that caused baby's fracture?

What if she doesn't know what happened to Robert because she was at work?

What if the BF is the guilty one?

Pink - get outta my head  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Seriously, I've thought about this but honestly if this were the case her behavior sure hasn't indicated so.  She has been "absent" over the last week...no pressers, no vigils, etc.  Strange behavior for a mom who doesn't know what happened!  JMO



We don't know what is going on behind the scene though. The family was quiet to the media, I think LE advised them in this. Perhaps LE asked or advised mom not to come to the press conferences because all that was out about her, that her attendance would take the focus off of finding Robert?

I just keep replaying the sheriff saying "don't jump to conclusions". I think there is a reason for that.


Like I said I was just tossing that out there, it's a thought that has crossed my mine too.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 09:08:07 PM


We don't know what is going on behind the scene though. The family was quiet to the media, I think LE advised them in this. Perhaps LE asked or advised mom not to come to the press conferences because all that was out about her, that her attendance would take the focus off of finding Robert?

I just keep replaying the sheriff saying "don't jump to conclusions". I think there is a reason for that.


Like I said I was just tossing that out there, it's a thought that has crossed my mine too.


This statement, over and over again, also strikes me as odd.  Is this something LE usually do in cases like this??  I dont know.  There really could be many reasons for them saying that.  But yes, it is odd.



O/T - while typing this, I see Klaas has been busy again   ::MonkeyCheer3:: 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tina Bee on August 04, 2009, 09:08:53 PM
Alright I'm gonna give Wallis the benefit of the doubt for a second...lets say he found out that something happened to Robert...and he thought maybe mom's b/f was involved...and that it involved his SUV and/or property (if he was in fact out of town).  Perhaps he reported the SUV stolen in hopes or thinking BPD would find it *odd* since he knew Roberts mom.  And maybe he wanted to them to investigate it in some way.  Afterall he was cooperative with BPD. 

And this would be his was of *not really* snitching....

That is what I think Leroy.  I think Wallis is on the up and up.  He may know that certain people take his SUV from time to time with out his prior permission.  He may know that Robert's Mom's BF did that before.  He left to go away on Friday for the weekend.  He comes back Monday..the SUV is back, which is normal, but he finds out Robert is missing..so he reports this to LE.  Wednesday was the 22nd...I think Robert was already murdered at that time..Monday was the 27th when Wallis returned.  He put two and two together and came up with Robert's Mom and BF.

I don't know if this is O/T or not, but what's up with these monsters nowadays killing kids and then keeping the body around for a few days and then dumping it (i.e. Jada Justice's case)?

You have to be one sick SOB to have a body around you and neither report it missing or take care of it fast. That gives me chills just thinking about it.

There must be some deep, deep mental illnesses going on in the murderer's mind (obviously).


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 04, 2009, 09:09:07 PM
http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html?video=YHI&t=a


Boise man's home searched in Manwill disappearance
Story Updated: Aug 1, 2009 at 6:50 PM MDT
By Jen Wahl


BOISE - Friday evening and Saturday morning, authorities looking for 8-year-old Robert Manwill focused their efforts on Evan Wallis' Boise home and blue Suburban.

"I was devastated that my truck was being considered part of this murder this case with Robert," Wallis said.

The Homeowner, Wallis, says he has three boys of his own and is an innocent bystander in the investigation.

Wallis says he welcomed authorities to his backyard to search for anything that may lead them to the little boy.

"I have complete cooperation with them because it is a little boy that needs to be found," he said.

Wallis says police searched his home after bloodhounds picked up a scent on his Suburban. He says his truck was stolen on July 22, just two days before Robert disappeared. Then it turned back up on Monday and Wallis notified the Ada County Sheriff's Office.

"And that's what lead them to come back here and get a warrant to come dig up our backyard," Wallis said. "I told them go ahead just as long as you just leave things the way they were when you're done."

At a news conference earlier this afternoon, Boise Deputy Chief Jim Kerns says he couldn't tell CBS 2 anything about the search on Wallis' property, and they're looking into more than 300 tips.

"At this point the investigation to find Robert is an hour by hour effort," Kerns said. "The lead detectives are constantly evaluating evidence and focusing resources."

Wallis says the only thing investigators were going to find in his home were freshly dug dirt from grass he was planting and a few tree stumps.

Although he says he knows the Ehrlick family very well, he wasn't very close to Melissa Jenkin's or her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick.

Wallis says he hopes the investigation helps lead police to 8-year-old Robert Manwill and is glad he was able to help.

http://www.2news.tv/news/52270027.html

Frankinputer won't let me see this video. Someone watching it and give us your impression on this dude, please. TIA

His answers to this interview and his last one...he just seems like he is covering. jmo


Did anyone else notice this man started to say 'murder' and corrected himself?

 ::MonkeyEek::



Listening again, he says the whole word, 'murder' before correcting himself. (-1:32 on tape, red type-mine)

 ::MonkeyShocked::



BUMP


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 04, 2009, 09:11:08 PM
::MonkeyNoNo::

It wouldn't surprise me Bearly. I have said from the beginning, he sets my hinky meter off.

I wish I could view the video. ;;crys::

I think it should be reported to the tipline just in case LE didn't see that interview or catch the slip.

TIPLINE:  570-6457
E-mail:  findrobert@cityofboise.org

Done.

Website kept timing out when I went to post it there, too.

 ::MonkeyConfused::



They seemed very interested in that slip. 

 ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 09:16:47 PM
::MonkeyNoNo::

It wouldn't surprise me Bearly. I have said from the beginning, he sets my hinky meter off.

I wish I could view the video. ;;crys::

I think it should be reported to the tipline just in case LE didn't see that interview or catch the slip.

TIPLINE:  570-6457
E-mail:  findrobert@cityofboise.org

Done.

Website kept timing out when I went to post it there, too.

 ::MonkeyConfused::



They seemed very interested in that slip. 

 ::MonkeyNoNo::



yes they sure did and now when they play that interview on TV they skip right over that part...hmmm


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 09:24:36 PM
Alright I'm gonna give Wallis the benefit of the doubt for a second...lets say he found out that something happened to Robert...and he thought maybe mom's b/f was involved...and that it involved his SUV and/or property (if he was in fact out of town).  Perhaps he reported the SUV stolen in hopes or thinking BPD would find it *odd* since he knew Roberts mom.  And maybe he wanted to them to investigate it in some way.  Afterall he was cooperative with BPD. 

And this would be his was of *not really* snitching....

That is what I think Leroy.  I think Wallis is on the up and up.  He may know that certain people take his SUV from time to time with out his prior permission.  He may know that Robert's Mom's BF did that before.  He left to go away on Friday for the weekend.  He comes back Monday..the SUV is back, which is normal, but he finds out Robert is missing..so he reports this to LE.  Wednesday was the 22nd...I think Robert was already murdered at that time..Monday was the 27th when Wallis returned.  He put two and two together and came up with Robert's Mom and BF.

I don't know if this is O/T or not, but what's up with these monsters nowadays killing kids and then keeping the body around for a few days and then dumping it (i.e. Jada Justice's case)?

You have to be one sick SOB to have a body around you and neither report it missing or take care of it fast. That gives me chills just thinking about it.

There must be some deep, deep mental illnesses going on in the murderer's mind (obviously).

Sadly, it's not just lately. Some don't even get rid of them and keep them around for years.
Poor Cheyenne Wolf: http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5625.0
was buried, dug up, hauled around and moved by her family for years. Stuck in plastic bags and plastic containers.

Mental illness or not, it's no excuse. They are evil monsters.

Edit: fix name per pink angel


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 09:26:52 PM
edit correction:

Poor Cheyenne Wolf. Why did I type Crystal? Brainfart.

Fixed.  (But I knew who you meant.  Poor, poor girl...)


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 04, 2009, 09:30:37 PM
::MonkeyNoNo::

It wouldn't surprise me Bearly. I have said from the beginning, he sets my hinky meter off.

I wish I could view the video. ;;crys::

I think it should be reported to the tipline just in case LE didn't see that interview or catch the slip.

TIPLINE:  570-6457
E-mail:  findrobert@cityofboise.org

Done.

Website kept timing out when I went to post it there, too.

 ::MonkeyConfused::



They seemed very interested in that slip. 

 ::MonkeyNoNo::



yes they sure did and now when they play that interview on TV they skip right over that part...hmmm

 ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 04, 2009, 09:42:07 PM
SUV dude ( Evan Wallis ) made some unkind comments about the bio egg donor didn't he ?
Thanks for the updates and the bump of the article. I did see part of his interview, and even then, I thought, you know alot dude. 
Oh and he wanted the yard put back the way it way, it looked like Croatia after the Serbs ran thru the place before.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Exactly!
Please leave my junkyard filled with dirt and cars, a junkyard filled with dirt and cars when you are done k?


It was said mom had to be held up as she left the police station in tears yesterday, and it was said she attended the vigil last night that was held across the street from the apartments, it was also stated in an article that she was at work when Robert turned up missing and the boyfriend was watching Robert.

Now, I am not giving a mom a pass by no means but just tossing this out there.

What if when the baby turned up hurt, she took the rap for the baby being hurt to cover for the boyfriend? Or had bumped the babies head  by accident but a previous injury done by the boyfriend (perhaps that day or the day before) was the one that caused baby's fracture?

What if she doesn't know what happened to Robert because she was at work?

What if the BF is the guilty one?

Pink - get outta my head  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Seriously, I've thought about this but honestly if this were the case her behavior sure hasn't indicated so.  She has been "absent" over the last week...no pressers, no vigils, etc.  Strange behavior for a mom who doesn't know what happened!  JMO



We don't know what is going on behind the scene though. The family was quiet to the media, I think LE advised them in this. Perhaps LE asked or advised mom not to come to the press conferences because all that was out about her, that her attendance would take the focus off of finding Robert?

I just keep replaying the sheriff saying "don't jump to conclusions". I think there is a reason for that.


Like I said I was just tossing that out there, it's a thought that has crossed my mine too.


OIC, we should not jump to conclusions just like that doctor did when he 'jumped to the conclusion' that it was not just a little bump on the table that hurt the infant as his mom suddenly remembered after the trial was over.

We should not jump to conclusions.  Maybe after this trial is over when the jurors 'jump to the conclusion' that Robert was murdered, his mom/her bf may have sudden clarity and remember s/he took him swimming in the canal and he disappeared.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyEek::



Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 09:45:26 PM
Memorial Grows With News Of Robert

Posted: Aug 4, 2009 08:32 PM
Updated: Aug 4, 2009 08:32 PM

A makeshift memorial for Robert Manwill continues to grow as police say the body found in the New York canal is tentatively Robert's. "Everyday something new and its sad that it had to end that way," one neighbor said "It's just very sad to hear that a little boy that who hasn't lived his life it's just a very tragic event," another added.

The memorial is set up across the street from the apartment complex he disappeared from 11 days ago.

The memorial is made up mostly of teddy bears, a sign of the 8-year-old after family pleaded to reunite Robert with his teddy bear just days into the search. Several people have also written letters and notes. "It says Robert we have prayed and prayed for you for 10 days," one woman said before breaking down in tears as she read her note. "Oh man, the loss I feel for not knowing and getting to talk to you."

The memorial will stay up for several more days until a candlelight vigil Friday night. After that the people behind the memorial say they'll donate the teddy bears to the Ronald McDonald house in Roberts' name.

(http://kivi.images.worldnow.com/images/10848688_BG1.jpg)

http://www.kivitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10848688


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 04, 2009, 09:46:13 PM
Ada County Coroner says the fact Robert Manwill was found in water makes it harder to determine his cause of death
Kathleen Kreller and Patrick Orr - Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/04/09


Boise Deputy Police Chief Jim Kerns said local police and federal investigators remain dedicated to "finding answers" for 8-year-old Robert Manwill's family and the Treasure Valley community that has come together in the 11 days since the boy was reported missing July 24.

"Finding Robert will not be the end, but just the beginning of an entirely new investigation," he said.

In a Tuesday press conference scheduled after the Ada County Coronor "tentatively" identified a dead boy found in the New York Canal as Robert, Kerns said police were engaged in a "very active" investigation, but cautioned against speculating about what could have happened and not to jump to any conclusions.

Police have to "focus on evidence," he said.

Kerns said Robert's family is still in close contact with police and being updated throughout the investigation.

"We ask that you continue to keep Robert, his family and the dedicated investigators in your thoughts," he said.

Earlier Tuesday, the coroner's office said that the boy found in a canal between Boise and Kuna Monday was most likely Robert.

"Positive identification will be released as soon as this office receives the dental records and the forensic odontologist can compare the findings," the office said in a release. "We are working closely with the Boise Police Department and our preliminary results are being turned over to Boise police to help further their investigation."

Coroners regularly use dental records to confirm identity of victims, said Ada County Coroner Erwin Sonnenberg.

"We feel tentatively that's him and we need to do the dental identification" Sonnenberg said. "That would be a bizarre situation...another kid the same size."

The report issued Tuesday does not indicate a cause of death, that is "pending investigation." It also says the place of death is "unknown."

"I'm sure a cause of death will be released down the road," Sonnenberg said Tuesday. "Everything has got to be put together to find out just what has happened."

Sonnenberg said water complicates his work.

"You can't assume as much as quickly," he said. "Now you have to add the fact that you have...decomposition in water which greatly complicates the case."


Robert was reported missing at 10:11 p.m. on Friday, July 24. Since then, hundreds of local and federal law enforcement officers and more than 2,000 citizen volunteers have been searching to find him.

Two people called 911 Monday after seeing the body of a small boy floating in the New York Canal — the same one that crosses Vista Avenue less than a half-mile from the apartment where Robert was reportedly last seen.

The New York Canal is 47 miles long between the diversion dam on the Boise River and Lake Lowell, according to Paul Deveau, project manager for the Boise Project Board of Control.

Deveau estimates from the Vista Avenue apartment to where Manwill's body was found as a roughly 18-mile stretch.

There are no gates or grates between those two locations to stop a body, he said. And it would take more than a week for a body to float that far, he said.


"We deal with this a lot," Devaue said. "Usually, any place from Broadway to Gowen Road...if somebody goes in that area, it's going to be one to two weeks before we see them at Cloverdale."

Deveau said the canal company opened up access roads for Boise Police to conduct a thorough search of the canal after Manwill went missing.

There are a set of "body gates" at Cloverdale Road, Deveau said, but the canal company must lower them into place. That didn't happen, because Boise police "thought he wasn't in the canal so we didn't put the gates in," he said.

Boise police officials announced last week they had found undisclosed evidence indicating that Robert could be injured or the "victim of a tragic event." They still have not identified any suspects or people of interest in the case.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/235/story/855363.html?storylink=omni_popular



Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: luvmyboys on August 04, 2009, 09:51:22 PM
 that guy who said his suv was stolen.did he report it. Like is there a police report


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 09:55:12 PM
Bearly,
I share the same feelings. I hope the evidence is clear and Robert will be able to tell them something as to who did this to him.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 04, 2009, 09:57:51 PM
that guy who said his suv was stolen.did he report it. Like is there a police report

There is a police report. It hasn't been confirmed when he reported it though. When it went missing on Wednesday or when it was "found" on Monday. The article didn't make it clear and LE hasn't mentioned it.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Kat_Gram on August 04, 2009, 10:27:33 PM
Thanks Leroy, No Rose and all of you for the quick updates.

I apologize if y'all already know this, but I was able to confirm the Police report on Walli's suburban was filed on Monday the 27th, not on the 22nd as he alleged. He reported the theft and the recovery on the same day.

There is no doubt in my mind Robert was buried in that man's backyard temporarily.

Maybe I am missing something, how does a woman get a $75 fine and work release for fracturing her infants skull? How does she keep the other kids in an unsupervised setting? When will the courts decide to become proactive vs. reactive?[/color]
  
Bumpity Bump from Blink


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: luvmyboys on August 04, 2009, 10:39:21 PM
So does that mean that the guy who owned the suv. Is prolly involved. Something is not right.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: sunshine12 on August 04, 2009, 11:01:16 PM
So does that mean that the guy who owned the suv. Is prolly involved. Something is not right.

i personally think it means he knows, or suspects something involving roberts mother and boyfriend.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: luvmyboys on August 04, 2009, 11:02:45 PM
R u saying u think that the guy who owned the stolen suv killed robert. Or someone else killed robert and put him in that guys back yard. Also has anyone been asked to take a lie detector test.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: luvmyboys on August 04, 2009, 11:04:57 PM
Yeah sunshine I kinda was leaning that way to.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on August 05, 2009, 12:04:29 AM
(http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af35/missingpersonscases/Robert%20Manwill/mapofarea.jpg)

Where on this map is willis property?  Also, does the canal flow away from his property or area of town down to where the body was found? 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 05, 2009, 02:23:07 AM
1.) Apartment
2.) The house on Southdale
4.) Where little man was found
3.) The City of Kuna

If you jumped in at the canal about where the two is on the map, the flow would carry you down to where little man was found.

Hope that makes sense. :)


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 05, 2009, 02:49:08 AM
Community response to Stockdale, Manwill

Updated 2 hours 40 minutes ago

A Middleton family the Treasure Valley got to know recently finds itself facing financial difficulties when the patriarch learns his insurance won't cover an expensive potential remedy to a terrible malady.

A young Boise boy is reported missing and there are no clues to his whereabouts.

Two different stories with very different outcomes. Yet two stories which also have one common thread that should make everybody who lives here glad they do.

Ryan Stockdale became well-known in the area in 2007 when his family was given a medically-sound house as part of the popular television series "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition." His four children all suffer from a rare white blood cell disease.

We learned last month that Ryan has a rare form of headaches that occur constantly and are so severe they are often referred to as "suicide headaches." And when the public learned that the surgery required to treat the ailment was considered experimental and not covered by his insurance policy, they stepped up. In just 27 hours, a fund-raiser spearheaded by Nampa-based Impact Radio Group had already raised more than the $80,000 needed for the operation.

Late last month, the Boise Police Department asked the public's help in finding 8-year-old Robert Manwill, who had been reported missing the night before. Family members said he had left their home on foot and had not returned.

Volunteers were requested in the search, which went on for days. More than 2,000 people volunteered their time to comb the area in temperatures near 100 degrees.

For the Stockdales, the story had a happy ending. For Manwill's family, it was a tragic conclusion when the coroner tentatively identified the boy's body found in a canal near Kuna.

But for everyone else who lives in the Treasure Valley, the conclusion from both events was a positive affirmation that, even when times are tough, their neighbors are willing to step in and help.

What we should all get from these two stories is the inspiration to see what we can do — perhaps on a more modest, less-publicized scale in our own neighborhoods or even half a world away — to find someone who needs a helping hand and lend it to them.

We've already shown we can — and will — do it.
http://www.idahopress.com/sports/?2009-08-05-Community-response-to-Stockdale-Manwill



Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 05, 2009, 02:52:51 AM
Robert Manwill's body found in New York Canal

Posted: Aug 4, 2009 07:11 PM

Boise, Idaho -- Now that we know eight year old Robert Manwill has been found,  the next big step in this investigation is how did the little boy end up in the canal. The boy either accidently fell into the canal, jumped in,  or someone put him there.  So, if  the body went into the canal by his house on Vista - it would have travelled about 14 miles before it got to the south portion of Cloverdale Road.

  Project manager Paul Deveau is in charge of the New York Canal and says Robert's body could easily have travelled that far.   There is only one grate on the entire system, but it wasn't even down.  "If a body goes in the canal in Boise, somewhere between Gowen Road, that's considered Boise, and we figure at least a week before the body gets down here, sometimes it'll take two weeks," said Paul Deveau, Boise Project Board of Control.

  It's also possible he went in closer to the spot where he was found. What detectives will try to figure out now, is did the little boy jump in, fall in, or did somebody kill him before he was even in the water.  As we first reported, police last week eliminated the canal as an area to search for Robert.  No word from police, as to why the canal was eliminated as a possible location for the boy.

Reported by: Mike Vogal

http://www.fox12idaho.com/Global/story.asp?S=10848412&nav=menu439_2_1


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 05, 2009, 02:56:45 AM
Body tentatively identified as Robert Manwill
Story Published: Aug 4, 2009 at 11:20 PM MDT
Story Updated: Aug 4, 2009 at 11:20 PM MDT
By Eyewitness News

BOISE - After 11 days of searching for missing 8-year old Robert Manwill, authorities say his body has been found. The Ada County Coroner's Office is tentatively identifying the body pulled from the New York Canal in Boise Monday as Robert.

While the search may be over, people say their support isn't. They've opened their homes and let this little boy into their hearts.

"She heard Robert's favorite color was green and she wanted her stuff animal to keep him safe," says neighbor, Shelly Bingham.

For 11 days, these neighbors, friends, and family members of missing Robert have remained hopeful he would come home.

"I have an 8-year old daughter and I can't imagine if something happened to her. I can't imagine how the family is feeling," says Shelly Cornford, another neighbor.

That's what makes hearing the latest news...

"... tentative identification made of body found in New York Canal as that of Robert Manwill," says Deputy Police Chief, Jim Kerns.

... so hard.

"It's just sad. Just want his family to know that we pray for him and that we all support them," adds Dotty Levasseur.

The Ada County Coroner says dental records are being evaluated to make a positive identification, but Tuesday, during a press conference, Boise Police said finding Robert is now only the beginning of the investigation into exactly what happened to the little boy.

"Our priority remains finding answers for Robert's family and this community," adds Chief Kerns.

While police ask for patience in this case, they also ask people to continue to keep Robert and his family in their hearts. A request many here say they're listening to.

"Asking God to please watch over him and to make sure that he has a golden seat right next to God, because he didn't deserve what he got," says Bingham.

Eyewitness News has learned the Boise community is planning a vigil for Robert this Friday night.

http://www.kidk.com/news/local/52484967.html
video also @ the link


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 05, 2009, 03:07:21 AM
Who was the last to see Robert Manwill alive?
A 7-year-old neighbor girl says she sat on the swings with him on the playground the night he disappeared.

BY KATY MOELLER - kmoeller@idahostatesman.com
Copyright: © 2009 Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/05/09

Much about Robert Manwill's disappearance remains a mystery.

The 8-year-old was reported missing shortly after 10 p.m. on Friday, July 24, according to Boise police.

But when was he last seen alive by family or others?

Police quickly backed away from their early reports of 7 to 9 p.m. They originally said both family members and others saw Robert during that time at the Boise apartment complex where Robert's mother, Melissa Jenkins, and her boyfriend, Daniel Ehrlick Jr., live.

But one person says she is certain she saw him that night.

Kimberlly Davidson, 7, who lives with her parents at the Oak Park Village apartments off Vista Avenue in Boise, said she was with Robert on the playground next to the pool, which has apartments overlooking it on three sides.

"I was on the green swing, and he was on the red swing," she told the Statesman.

At some point, Kimberlly said, Robert jumped off to play on a playground motorcycle, next to the swings, then soon after went up to his mom's apartment. She went to her own family's apartment.

Kimberlly's parents say they believe she came inside at about 7:30 p.m. - around the same time as their other kids changed and went down to the pool to go swimming. The pool was filled with kids that night, they said.

When Robert was reported missing at about 10 p.m., word spread quickly around the apartment complex. That night, Kimberlly told her dad that she had been playing with Robert earlier.

"She gave me a very vivid description," Jim Davidson said.

He and wife, Kandi, say their daughter would not confuse Robert with another boy. Jim Davidson said some friends confirmed they, too, saw Kimberlly and Robert on the playground.

A resident in the building who did not want to be identified said Ehrlick Jr. told her that Robert was in the hot tub and pool the night he went missing. She said he told her a heavy-set couple, including a man with a mustache, had invited the boy to a birthday party, and he'd gone to ask Ehrlick Jr. for permission several times.

But the Davidsons said no one saw the boy in the hot tub or pool.

Police initially said the boy may have been wanting to go to a party, but then stepped back, saying that might not be true. They did the same on an early report that Robert was last seen at the playground.

AFTER HE WAS GONE

As soon as the Davidson family heard Robert was missing that Friday night, they grabbed flashlights and joined dozens of neighbors in searching for the boy. They were out looking until 2 a.m. Saturday.

"The parents around here are always looking out for each other's kids," Jim Davidson said. "Kids can run up to any apartment, go inside and get help."

There are often adults sitting outside their apartments in lawn chairs, and some leave pool-side doors open.

Many in the neighborhood gathered after dark Monday at a sidewalk memorial on Shoshone Street, within view of Robert's mom's apartment at Oak Park. They lit candles in front a pile of teddy bears and other toys.

Safar Takhsilov, who has lived at Oak Park for about a year, has two boys, including an 8-year-old. He said children who have gone missing from time to time at the apartment complex have always been found within a few hours.

The day after Robert disappeared, the Davidsons got the boy's school photos and had them photocopied for distribution in the neighborhood.

"If that was my kid, I pray that someone would be helping us," Kandi Davidson said.

They spoke with FBI agents every day for about a week - agents were interested in Kimberlly's account, among other things - and allowed searches of their apartment and garage.

It took four or five officers to sift through boxes in their garage.

A neighbor of Jenkins and Ehrlick said that that night, she heard a police officer helping Jenkins search her apartment for the boy. She said she heard the officer also wanted to search Jenkins' car - a red Blazer - but she told him she wasn't home at the time the boy went missing.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/856161.html

(http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2009/08/04/23/407-0805_Local_missing.standalone.prod_affiliate.36.jpg)


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 05, 2009, 03:13:05 AM
Teachers say Robert Manwill was affectionate, quick to learn
Robert Manwill, 8, believed to be the boy found dead in a canal Monday, made a good impression in a short time in New Plymouth.
BY KATY MOELLER - kmoeller@idahostatesman.com
Copyright: © 2009 Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/05/09


Robert Manwill was a hugger.

Every day at school, Robert hugged his teachers. He freely embraced his best buddies, including some who felt they were getting too grown up for such unsolicited displays of affection.

"He was a sweet, sweet boy, always wanting hugs, and hugging other kids," said Christy Morales, who was Robert's second-grade teacher.

This June, the boy - who was reported missing from his mother's Boise apartment complex 11 days ago and was found in a canal near Kuna on Monday - completed second grade at the 450-student New Plymouth Elementary School in the tight-knit Payette County community of 1,400 people.

Robert lived in both halves of a broken home, spending most of the past year and a half of his life with his dad, Charles Manwill, in New Plymouth, and occasionally visiting his mom, Melissa Jenkins, in Boise.

When the story of his disappearance got out, and his school photo - featuring his wide-eyed face and impish grin - was plastered from pillar to post, Treasure Valley residents searched for the boy as if he were their own.

About 2,300 people searched Boise on Friday, including a busload of 60 who made the hour-and-a-half round-trip from New Plymouth.

Robert's second-grade teacher was among them, and it was the fourth search she had gone on last week.

"I'm a praying person," Morales said. "I just prayed the whole time, 'Help us find him.' We just need some closure."

Robert was one of the younger kids in his second-grade class, turning 8 at the end of the school year.

"By the end of second grade, he was a very strong student ... He just made great progress. It was fun to watch him gain skills so quickly," said New Plymouth Principal Carrie Agus.

He's remembered as a tiny kid, who liked superhero T-shirts and wore too-big brown loafers. He is described as funny, often making silly comments or telling funny stories.

Several residents at the Boise apartment complex where his mom lives described Robert as a quiet, polite boy who regularly carried out the trash and walked the family's dog - a pit bull - that seemed almost too big for him to control.

Morales said he had a cute, quirky way of answering questions.

"He'd throw out his hands and say, 'Wellllll ... ,'" she said.

"He was very verbal that way. For his age, he was very verbal. He'd go into these explanations."

Tammy Schlett, a teaching assistant at New Plymouth, tutored Robert and other kids in his class in math every day.

"He'd lean his head on you, and say, 'I love you,'" Schlett said. Robert gave her a hug on the way out of the lunchroom every day.

When she heard Robert was missing, she wept.

"I cry, even now," she said.

Katy Moeller: 377-6413

Edit to add link per pink angel: http://www.idahostatesman.com/robertmanwill/story/856164.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 05, 2009, 03:14:42 AM
edit correction if a mod or admin strolls through:
I forgot the link for the above article. Thanks. :)
http://www.idahostatesman.com/robertmanwill/story/856164.html

Done. MB


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: cookie on August 05, 2009, 08:14:56 AM
sounds as if Robert wanted/needed affection from a "mother figure"  too sad for words...
thankfully these teachers filled a void for this little boy...
RIP Robert....


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 05, 2009, 08:31:03 AM
Thanks Pink.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 05, 2009, 09:24:54 AM
Good morning monkeys. :)

Thank you Ms. MuffyBee. Sometimes I feel like a kid that has left clothes on the floor and you mods and admins follow behind me and pick them up. I appreciate all that do. ::monkeysmooches::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on August 05, 2009, 09:29:48 AM
Pink - thank you, that answered my questions!   So both locations of interest, the apartment area and the willis house were both up current from where little Robert was found.

If Robert's teachers read here - THANK YOU for caring for this precious boy.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 05, 2009, 09:47:56 AM
Pink - thank you, that answered my questions!   So both locations of interest, the apartment area and the willis house were both up current from where little Robert was found.

If Robert's teachers read here - THANK YOU for caring for this precious boy.

You are welcome hon!

Wasn't it wonderful hearing about him? You can tell how much they loved, cared and nurtured Robert.

If they are reading here, you are amazing teachers and little man and all his classmates were/are lucky to have teachers like you in their lives. Thank you.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 05, 2009, 09:49:08 AM
Pink - thank you, that answered my questions!   So both locations of interest, the apartment area and the willis house were both up current from where little Robert was found.

If Robert's teachers read here - THANK YOU for caring for this precious boy.
I want to thank the teachers also  ::MonkeyAngel::  Thanks for all the updates  ::MonkeyCool::  One thing I was thinking about, the boyfriends father, in that one article he was talking about the mother of Robert, and he didn't have many kind words. Could he have been saying that because he has a feeling his son was the one to have done this to Robert?  It appears the mom was at work, unless a report comes out later that she wasn't. Maybe the boyfriend got mad at Robert for one reason or another? I'm not excusing the mother for what she did to her infant, I'm still in shock for the punishment she got for that. Just thinking maybe the boyfriend and the boyfriend alone did this?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 05, 2009, 10:00:11 AM
Pink - thank you, that answered my questions!   So both locations of interest, the apartment area and the willis house were both up current from where little Robert was found.

If Robert's teachers read here - THANK YOU for caring for this precious boy.
I want to thank the teachers also  ::MonkeyAngel::  Thanks for all the updates  ::MonkeyCool::  One thing I was thinking about, the boyfriends father, in that one article he was talking about the mother of Robert, and he didn't have many kind words. Could he have been saying that because he has a feeling his son was the one to have done this to Robert?  It appears the mom was at work, unless a report comes out later that she wasn't. Maybe the boyfriend got mad at Robert for one reason or another? I'm not excusing the mother for what she did to her infant, I'm still in shock for the punishment she got for that. Just thinking maybe the boyfriend and the boyfriend alone did this?

BF's dad is giving BF money to live on, BF points the finger at grandpops and grandpops only talks bad about mom.

grandpop sounds like a enabler. could he be another Cindy...covering for his son and pointing the finger elsewhere?

That's why I think he said "he believes he saw" Robert. He wants to give his son's story to LE more credibility.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 05, 2009, 10:04:13 AM
Teachers say Robert Manwill was affectionate, quick to learn
Robert Manwill, 8, believed to be the boy found dead in a canal Monday, made a good impression in a short time in New Plymouth.
BY KATY MOELLER - kmoeller@idahostatesman.com
Copyright: © 2009 Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/05/09


Robert Manwill was a hugger.

Every day at school, Robert hugged his teachers. He freely embraced his best buddies, including some who felt they were getting too grown up for such unsolicited displays of affection.

"He was a sweet, sweet boy, always wanting hugs, and hugging other kids," said Christy Morales, who was Robert's second-grade teacher.

This June, the boy - who was reported missing from his mother's Boise apartment complex 11 days ago and was found in a canal near Kuna on Monday - completed second grade at the 450-student New Plymouth Elementary School in the tight-knit Payette County community of 1,400 people.

Robert lived in both halves of a broken home, spending most of the past year and a half of his life with his dad, Charles Manwill, in New Plymouth, and occasionally visiting his mom, Melissa Jenkins, in Boise.

When the story of his disappearance got out, and his school photo - featuring his wide-eyed face and impish grin - was plastered from pillar to post, Treasure Valley residents searched for the boy as if he were their own.

About 2,300 people searched Boise on Friday, including a busload of 60 who made the hour-and-a-half round-trip from New Plymouth.

Robert's second-grade teacher was among them, and it was the fourth search she had gone on last week.

"I'm a praying person," Morales said. "I just prayed the whole time, 'Help us find him.' We just need some closure."

Robert was one of the younger kids in his second-grade class, turning 8 at the end of the school year.

"By the end of second grade, he was a very strong student ... He just made great progress. It was fun to watch him gain skills so quickly," said New Plymouth Principal Carrie Agus.

He's remembered as a tiny kid, who liked superhero T-shirts and wore too-big brown loafers. He is described as funny, often making silly comments or telling funny stories.

Several residents at the Boise apartment complex where his mom lives described Robert as a quiet, polite boy who regularly carried out the trash and walked the family's dog - a pit bull - that seemed almost too big for him to control.
Morales said he had a cute, quirky way of answering questions.

"He'd throw out his hands and say, 'Wellllll ... ,'" she said.

"He was very verbal that way. For his age, he was very verbal. He'd go into these explanations."

Tammy Schlett, a teaching assistant at New Plymouth, tutored Robert and other kids in his class in math every day.

"He'd lean his head on you, and say, 'I love you,'" Schlett said. Robert gave her a hug on the way out of the lunchroom every day.

When she heard Robert was missing, she wept.

"I cry, even now," she said.

Katy Moeller: 377-6413

Edit to add link per pink angel: http://www.idahostatesman.com/robertmanwill/story/856164.html

Thank you for this article Pink.  It sounds like Robert thrived in his school and his home with his Dad.

I bolded the part of the article about his Mom's residence.  It appears he was a different boy when he was with his Mom.  Maybe more withdrawn I would say.
It also concerns me they had a pit bull that he walked.  Lord I hope that dog wasn't told to attack this child by the Mom or BF.  Just remembering the carpet etc coming out of the apartment.

I am certain when he was with his Dad life was like a dream compared to being with his Mom.  I am so happy to read how much his teachers were involved with him and the self confidence they gave him.  No one in the apartment complex has described Robert's personality....probably because they didn't see much of Robert and when they did he felt he couldn't joke and carry on like a normal 8 year old. 

I am just so sad and angry beyond words right now.

The female judge who heard the baby cracking head case should have removed Robert permanently from his Mom...that would have been the Mom's loss not his.  His Mom also should have had to serve time, attend anger management and parenting classes....and at the very least if allowed to see Robert only supervised visits of a few hours at a time.  People in Idaho should be calling for that judge's resignation.  She has very poor judgement and needs to be removed from her position.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: luvmyboys on August 05, 2009, 10:24:36 AM
Has anyone heard rather or not. If anyone has been asked to take a lie detector test or not?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 05, 2009, 10:37:49 AM
Has anyone heard rather or not. If anyone has been asked to take a lie detector test or not?
I know I haven't read anything about that.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: cookie on August 05, 2009, 10:49:30 AM
rosie..I had not realized that the mom was at work that night..

I bet the bio father is really really upset that he had to send Robert to his mother's for visitation...I wonder if he would have refused to send Robert if this mother would have fought to have seen him or would she have just shrugged it off....now we will never know..sadly.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: luvmyboys on August 05, 2009, 11:18:50 AM
Did someone say that little roberts mom was at work when he went missing. And if so what time did she go to work?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 05, 2009, 11:36:13 AM
If the SUV was missing on Wednesday July 22nd and Robert was seen by the kids in the complex Friday evening..then I would say this was premeditated.  Esspecially if it turns out the SUV shows any evidence from Robert's murder.

Oringinally I thought maybe he was murdered earlier in the week.  But the kids in the complex saying they played with him Friday tells me he was not.  As long as they don't have their days confused..he was alive at 7-7:30 PM when the other kids went in to change to go swimming.

I would realy like to know Melissa's work schedule for the whole week....Monday through Friday.  Maybe the kids had their days confused and they were with him on another day.  But if she had off work on any of the days that week then my hinky meter is going off.  Also would like to know what time she left work each evening that week.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: luvmyboys on August 05, 2009, 12:05:43 PM
I have a question I know it is hear in the forum somewhere. When was he taken to his mom's and when was he to go back to his dad?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: sunshine12 on August 05, 2009, 01:55:01 PM
i read a post on another site about the hospitalization of the boyfriend, and i wanted to post it here.  It is from someone named idaho-native. the link is at the bottom.

new update from my brother.......

He has called me twice in the last few minutes. He said that the bf was in intermountain hospital. Last week he went into St.Als for a attempted drug overdose. From there that hospital sent him over to intermountain. Intermountain is across the way from the jail. St. Als where he originally was has a small mental health unit, but all the deep stuff gets sent over to intermountain. He said the bf was released at 8am yesterday or today. I aslked him how he knew this and apparently the mother called the apartment complex and told them he was being released and she wanted the locks on that apartment changed.

If he was released from the hospital today it will be interesting to see if an arrest is made today. I cant imagine they will let this guy very far out of his site. It seems he is a permanent flight risk. It also seems that at this point maybe even the mother believes he did it. Why else would she be trying to keep him out of the apartment
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4018097&postcount=307


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: burkieandemme on August 05, 2009, 01:58:51 PM
I have a question I know it is hear in the forum somewhere. When was he taken to his mom's and when was he to go back to his dad?

Hi lovemyboys. 
I hope this answer your questions:
1. It was original reported that egg donor was at work the night Robert went missing.  But to my knowledge it has not be   
    disclosed what her shift was that night. 
2. It has not been reveled if anyone has taken a lie detector test. 
3. Charles Manwill obtained custody of Robert January 2008. 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: sunshine12 on August 05, 2009, 02:05:03 PM
i read a post on another site about the hospitalization of the boyfriend, and i wanted to post it here.  It is from someone named idaho-native. the link is at the bottom.

new update from my brother.......

He has called me twice in the last few minutes. He said that the bf was in intermountain hospital. Last week he went into St.Als for a attempted drug overdose. From there that hospital sent him over to intermountain. Intermountain is across the way from the jail. St. Als where he originally was has a small mental health unit, but all the deep stuff gets sent over to intermountain. He said the bf was released at 8am yesterday or today. I aslked him how he knew this and apparently the mother called the apartment complex and told them he was being released and she wanted the locks on that apartment changed.

If he was released from the hospital today it will be interesting to see if an arrest is made today. I cant imagine they will let this guy very far out of his site. It seems he is a permanent flight risk. It also seems that at this point maybe even the mother believes he did it. Why else would she be trying to keep him out of the apartment
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4018097&postcount=307


just to follow up on my last post, i think this just further proves (if its true but i believe this to be a credible source) that the boyfriend was involved.  it reminds me of the sandra cantu case when melissa huckabee swallowed the razors. i hope theres an arrest today and that anyone else who aided in the commission of this crime is held accountable as well.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 05, 2009, 02:10:09 PM
i read a post on another site about the hospitalization of the boyfriend, and i wanted to post it here.  It is from someone named idaho-native. the link is at the bottom.

new update from my brother.......

He has called me twice in the last few minutes. He said that the bf was in intermountain hospital. Last week he went into St.Als for a attempted drug overdose. From there that hospital sent him over to intermountain. Intermountain is across the way from the jail. St. Als where he originally was has a small mental health unit, but all the deep stuff gets sent over to intermountain. He said the bf was released at 8am yesterday or today. I aslked him how he knew this and apparently the mother called the apartment complex and told them he was being released and she wanted the locks on that apartment changed.

If he was released from the hospital today it will be interesting to see if an arrest is made today. I cant imagine they will let this guy very far out of his site. It seems he is a permanent flight risk. It also seems that at this point maybe even the mother believes he did it. Why else would she be trying to keep him out of the apartment
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4018097&postcount=307


just to follow up on my last post, i think this just further proves (if its true but i believe this to be a credible source) that the boyfriend was involved.  it reminds me of the sandra cantu case when melissa huckabee swallowed the razors. i hope theres an arrest today and that anyone else who aided in the commission of this crime is held accountable as well.
Thanks, originally when I heard he was hospitalized I figured suicide attempt. I really am thinking the boyfriend killed Robert while the mom was at work.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: sunshine12 on August 05, 2009, 02:25:41 PM
yea, im still a little confused on the timeline of the case but i also think that it's highly possible that the bf killed robert when mom was at work. i guess with a clearer timeline i would be more sure of what the mother's role was in all of this.  based on witnesses that saw him at 7 30pm, and if mom got home from work at 9, i dont know if thats enough time for the bf to kill him, clean up blood, and bury him in his friends back yard (which i strongly believe happened) before the mother got back from work. 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 05, 2009, 02:40:19 PM
yea, im still a little confused on the timeline of the case but i also think that it's highly possible that the bf killed robert when mom was at work. i guess with a clearer timeline i would be more sure of what the mother's role was in all of this.  based on witnesses that saw him at 7 30pm, and if mom got home from work at 9, i dont know if thats enough time for the bf to kill him, clean up blood, and bury him in his friends back yard (which i strongly believe happened) before the mother got back from work. 
That's true  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: sunshine12 on August 05, 2009, 03:41:14 PM
If the SUV was missing on Wednesday July 22nd and Robert was seen by the kids in the complex Friday evening..then I would say this was premeditated.  Esspecially if it turns out the SUV shows any evidence from Robert's murder.

Oringinally I thought maybe he was murdered earlier in the week.  But the kids in the complex saying they played with him Friday tells me he was not.  As long as they don't have their days confused..he was alive at 7-7:30 PM when the other kids went in to change to go swimming.

I would realy like to know Melissa's work schedule for the whole week....Monday through Friday.  Maybe the kids had their days confused and they were with him on another day.  But if she had off work on any of the days that week then my hinky meter is going off.  Also would like to know what time she left work each evening that week.

i think its possible that this was premeditated for the reasons bolded above. i also think that another possibility could be that if it wasn't premeditated, the bf's brother had taken the car and the bf called the brother in a panic and said that he needed to borrow the car. i'm not sure which is more likely, but if he did have anger management issues i would think it probobaly wasn't premeditated


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 05, 2009, 04:35:40 PM
So if Wallis was out of town when his SUV was stolen, how does he know exactly WHEN it was stolen??  How could he know??





Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 05, 2009, 04:40:04 PM
I would like to when the last adult, besides mom or b/f, saw Robert.  Kids get times/days confused alot..especially times since they usually dont care.

sorry, I drove for 6 hours today and I've had alot of time to think    ::MonkeyHaHa:: 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 05, 2009, 04:42:04 PM
musictheatredoc 

 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Idaho-native 
I would assume that if a judge has ordered she get summer visitation then its also been ordered that she get every other weekend or something like that

I have worked in the social service field, here in Idaho for 13 years (I am not a social worker, associated with Health and Welfare, or in law enforcement) and my experience has been that if the judge gave the mother Summer visitation, she also had regular visitation. Here in Idaho, judges favor the mother, even when there have been laws broken and convictions. While he was placed with his father, the court will do everything possible to preserve the relationship with his mother. Not saying that's right (It obviously isn't in some cases), but it's just the way it rolls here. Also, here in Idaho, my experience has been that a parent (especially mom) does not lose visitation unless they are incarcerated. 
(This is from WS, and might give some insight about custody)


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Leroy on August 05, 2009, 04:44:40 PM
musictheatredoc 

 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Idaho-native 
I would assume that if a judge has ordered she get summer visitation then its also been ordered that she get every other weekend or something like that

I have worked in the social service field, here in Idaho for 13 years (I am not a social worker, associated with Health and Welfare, or in law enforcement) and my experience has been that if the judge gave the mother Summer visitation, she also had regular visitation. Here in Idaho, judges favor the mother, even when there have been laws broken and convictions. While he was placed with his father, the court will do everything possible to preserve the relationship with his mother. Not saying that's right (It obviously isn't in some cases), but it's just the way it rolls here. Also, here in Idaho, my experience has been that a parent (especially mom) does not lose visitation unless they are incarcerated.  
(This is from WS, and might give some insight about custody)

Well isn't that special   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: sunshine12 on August 05, 2009, 05:05:47 PM
So if Wallis was out of town when his SUV was stolen, how does he know exactly WHEN it was stolen??  How could he know??





apparently neighbors told him it was missing i dont know how accurate that is though. 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: cherjers on August 05, 2009, 05:08:32 PM
yea, im still a little confused on the timeline of the case but i also think that it's highly possible that the bf killed robert when mom was at work. i guess with a clearer timeline i would be more sure of what the mother's role was in all of this.  based on w ::MonkeyLaugh::itnesses that saw him at 7 30pm, and if mom got home from work at 9, i dont know if thats enough time for the bf to kill him, clean up blood, and bury him in his friends back yard (which i strongly believe happened) before the mother got back from work. 
I thought the mother saw him that night around 9.30 said he wanted to go to a party-I could be wrong-wouldnt be the first time ::MonkeyLaugh::I dont trust anything mommy dearest says anyway.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: cherjers on August 05, 2009, 05:10:23 PM
musictheatredoc 

 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Idaho-native 
I would assume that if a judge has ordered she get summer visitation then its also been ordered that she get every other weekend or something like that

I have worked in the social service field, here in Idaho for 13 years (I am not a social worker, associated with Health and Welfare, or in law enforcement) and my experience has been that if the judge gave the mother Summer visitation, she also had regular visitation. Here in Idaho, judges favor the mother, even when there have been laws broken and convictions. While he was placed with his father, the court will do everything possible to preserve the relationship with his mother. Not saying that's right (It obviously isn't in some cases), but it's just the way it rolls here. Also, here in Idaho, my experience has been that a parent (especially mom) does not lose visitation unless they are incarcerated.  
(This is from WS, and might give some insight about custody)

Well isn't that special   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 
well isnt that nuts ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: Tams on August 05, 2009, 05:18:05 PM
Good Afternoon, Monkeys -

Haven't posted in a long long time . . . have been feeling overwhelmed by the national epidemic tsunami of unfit parents whose children wind up missing, hurt or worse because they couldn't be responsible enough to see past themselves and put their child's well being before ANYTHING else they could possibly think they want or need. I am ashamed and disgusted by our narcissitic society. . . and I began to realize that getting too obsessed with these cases can really make depression and anxiety recurrent and overwhelming.

That being said, here I am trying to understand what happened to this innocent little boy. Reading his 2nd grade teacher's description of him broke my heart. All he wanted was to be recognized and loved. Poor sweet child. Thank goodness for people like his teacher who were able to make him feel like SOMEONE in this world cared.

Also: I was alarmed to read the neighbor's description of Robert walking a pit bull that seemed larger than him . . . just a thought, but does anyone have any information on where that dog is since LE searched the apt. and made the statement that it could have been a tragic event? Could explain a number of things, including covering for others . . . maybe? Just a thought . . .

Have to run to work now - will be back later tonight. Didn't want for it to seem like I just "post & run" - LOL.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 05, 2009, 05:19:39 PM
So if Wallis was out of town when his SUV was stolen, how does he know exactly WHEN it was stolen??  How could he know??





I read it was the neighbors that told him. ::shrugs::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 05, 2009, 05:23:32 PM
Good Afternoon, Monkeys -

Haven't posted in a long long time . . . have been feeling overwhelmed by the national epidemic tsunami of unfit parents whose children wind up missing, hurt or worse because they couldn't be responsible enough to see past themselves and put their child's well being before ANYTHING else they could possibly think they want or need. I am ashamed and disgusted by our narcissitic society. . . and I began to realize that getting too obsessed with these cases can really make depression and anxiety recurrent and overwhelming.

That being said, here I am trying to understand what happened to this innocent little boy. Reading his 2nd grade teacher's description of him broke my heart. All he wanted was to be recognized and loved. Poor sweet child. Thank goodness for people like his teacher who were able to make him feel like SOMEONE in this world cared.

Also: I was alarmed to read the neighbor's description of Robert walking a pit bull that seemed larger than him . . . just a thought, but does anyone have any information on where that dog is since LE searched the apt. and made the statement that it could have been a tragic event? Could explain a number of things, including covering for others . . . maybe? Just a thought . . .

Have to run to work now - will be back later tonight. Didn't want for it to seem like I just "post & run" - LOL.

Tams. This was the first time any dog was mentioned. In any articles. LE has never mentioned a dog.



Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 05, 2009, 05:26:55 PM
Tams, good to see you, I don't recall reading anything about a dog.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 05, 2009, 05:28:24 PM
yea, im still a little confused on the timeline of the case but i also think that it's highly possible that the bf killed robert when mom was at work. i guess with a clearer timeline i would be more sure of what the mother's role was in all of this.  based on w ::MonkeyLaugh::itnesses that saw him at 7 30pm, and if mom got home from work at 9, i dont know if thats enough time for the bf to kill him, clean up blood, and bury him in his friends back yard (which i strongly believe happened) before the mother got back from work. 
I thought the mother saw him that night around 9.30 said he wanted to go to a party-I could be wrong-wouldnt be the first time ::MonkeyLaugh::I dont trust anything mommy dearest says anyway.

It was reported mom wasn't home. It's never been confirmed by LE where Melissa was or was not.

Police initially said the boy may have been wanting to go to a party, but then stepped back, saying that might not be true. They did the same on an early report that Robert was last seen at the playground.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: pink angel on August 05, 2009, 05:31:32 PM
Tams, good to see you, I don't recall reading anything about a dog.

Ditto! Good to see you. I neglected to add that in my response to you. :)

Hi no rose and Leroy and all the monkeys! :)


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: sunshine12 on August 05, 2009, 06:25:53 PM
apparently there is breaking news in the case and there will be a news conference at 6


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 05, 2009, 06:27:04 PM
Thanks Sunshine12   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 05, 2009, 06:33:12 PM
Thanks Sunshine12   ::MonkeyAngel::
Thanks, hopefully an arrest.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on August 05, 2009, 06:42:38 PM
Body positively ID'ed as Manwill; news conf. set

04:37 PM MDT on Wednesday, August 5, 2009
BOISE - The Ada County Coroner officially confirmed Wednesday that the body found in a Kuna canal Monday is that of Robert Manwill.  The coroner held off making the positive ID as they awaited confirmation from dental records.

A news conference is set for 6 p.m. at Boise Police headquarters in Boise, where they say there will be a “significant development,” but would not detail what that was.

Robert’s aunt and uncle spoke with NewsChannel 7 Wednesday and said they were holding out hope that the tentative ID was wrong – and they have held off making funeral arrangements.

That will likely change in the wake of this afternoon's unfortunate news.

KTVB also spoke with the family of Daniel Ehrlick, Jr., the boyfriend who lives with Robert's mom.

Since the boy’s disappearance, he's been in and out of the hospital for unspecified treatments.

He's been out of the public eye since last Thursday when he attended news conferences with Robert's mother, Melissa Jenkins.

Ehrlick's father didn't want to answer questions on camera, but said "this has torn our family apart and there's no one who can put us back together."


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: joesamas mama on August 05, 2009, 06:58:03 PM
Body positively ID'ed as Manwill; news conf. set

04:37 PM MDT on Wednesday, August 5, 2009
BOISE - The Ada County Coroner officially confirmed Wednesday that the body found in a Kuna canal Monday is that of Robert Manwill.  The coroner held off making the positive ID as they awaited confirmation from dental records.

A news conference is set for 6 p.m. at Boise Police headquarters in Boise, where they say there will be a “significant development,” but would not detail what that was.

Robert’s aunt and uncle spoke with NewsChannel 7 Wednesday and said they were holding out hope that the tentative ID was wrong – and they have held off making funeral arrangements.

That will likely change in the wake of this afternoon's unfortunate news.

KTVB also spoke with the family of Daniel Ehrlick, Jr., the boyfriend who lives with Robert's mom.

Since the boy’s disappearance, he's been in and out of the hospital for unspecified treatments.

He's been out of the public eye since last Thursday when he attended news conferences with Robert's mother, Melissa Jenkins.

Ehrlick's father didn't want to answer questions on camera, but said "this has torn our family apart and there's no one who can put us back together."

Thank you Klaas for this update, it will be 6pm Mountain time? And also thank you for the skating monkey.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: klaasend on August 05, 2009, 06:58:44 PM
JSM - yw  ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeySkate::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: luvmyboys on August 05, 2009, 07:23:28 PM
Ok I am haven a stupid moment what time will that be here in nc. Will it be 8 or 9?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 05, 2009, 07:36:04 PM
Ok I am haven a stupid moment what time will that be here in nc. Will it be 8 or 9?

8 pm your time


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 05, 2009, 07:36:23 PM
Ok I am haven a stupid moment what time will that be here in nc. Will it be 8 or 9?
  I think 9 in NC, should be 8 in Texas.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 05, 2009, 07:39:06 PM
Ok I am haven a stupid moment what time will that be here in nc. Will it be 8 or 9?

8 pm your time
Ooops, thanks Leroy. Glad you pitched in, JSM was wrong Again.  ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeySkate::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 05, 2009, 07:44:33 PM
Ok I am haven a stupid moment what time will that be here in nc. Will it be 8 or 9?

8 pm your time
Ooops, thanks Leroy. Glad you pitched in, JSM was wrong Again.  ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeySkate::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  no problem...actually it made me laugh...poor thing is prolly all confused   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 05, 2009, 07:50:08 PM
Ok I am haven a stupid moment what time will that be here in nc. Will it be 8 or 9?

8 pm your time
Ooops, thanks Leroy. Glad you pitched in, JSM was wrong Again.  ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeySkate::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  no problem...actually it made me laugh...poor thing is prolly all confused   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 


  ::MonkeyCool:: Anyone have a link to the news conference?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 05, 2009, 07:52:26 PM
Ok I am haven a stupid moment what time will that be here in nc. Will it be 8 or 9?

8 pm your time
Ooops, thanks Leroy. Glad you pitched in, JSM was wrong Again.  ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeySkate::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  no problem...actually it made me laugh...poor thing is prolly all confused   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 


  ::MonkeyCool:: Anyone have a link to the news conference?

I think KTVB will have it but they usually dont put the actual link up until a few minutes before...I am at their website and keep refreshing...as soon as they put it up I will post it...here is where I am now...

http://www.ktvb.com/



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: luvmyboys on August 05, 2009, 07:52:41 PM
Thanks u guys I was not sure.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: can on August 05, 2009, 07:54:21 PM
Does anyone know if that would be 8:00 p.m. ET?

Hi  ::MonkeySkate:: ::MonkeySkate:: JSM!


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 05, 2009, 07:56:02 PM
Does anyone know if that would be 8:00 p.m. ET?

Hi  ::MonkeySkate:: ::MonkeySkate:: JSM!

Yep that is correct. 

(i love the ice skating monkey!!!)


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 05, 2009, 07:57:18 PM
Ok I am haven a stupid moment what time will that be here in nc. Will it be 8 or 9?

8 pm your time
Ooops, thanks Leroy. Glad you pitched in, JSM was wrong Again.  ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeySkate::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  no problem...actually it made me laugh...poor thing is prolly all confused   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 


  ::MonkeyCool:: Anyone have a link to the news conference?

I think KTVB will have it but they usually dont put the actual link up until a few minutes before...I am at their website and keep refreshing...as soon as they put it up I will post it...here is where I am now...

http://www.ktvb.com/


Thanks Leroy! You are the best!!!  ::MonkeyAngel::  ::MonkeySkate::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 05, 2009, 07:58:40 PM
Does anyone know if that would be 8:00 p.m. ET?

Hi  ::MonkeySkate:: ::MonkeySkate:: JSM!
Hi Can  ::MonkeySkate::  ::MonkeySkate:: Glad Leroy is taking care of the time frame on the presser.  ::MonkeySkate::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: can on August 05, 2009, 08:01:58 PM
Does anyone know if that would be 8:00 p.m. ET?

Hi  ::MonkeySkate:: ::MonkeySkate:: JSM!

Yep that is correct. 

(i love the ice skating monkey!!!)

Thanks!  Maybe NG will carry it.  I luv  ::MonkeySkate:: it too - it's my favorite.  Three Cheers and a ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4:: to Klaas.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: klaasend on August 05, 2009, 08:02:44 PM
Should be starting right now!


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 05, 2009, 08:04:29 PM
I cant find a link  ::MonkeyWaa::

but just saw this from KTVB

Police: Death of Robert Manwill "not an accident"


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 05, 2009, 08:07:14 PM
Just caught the very end of a short statement that said Robert's death was not an accident. It was a homicide they will be working on the case to find who killed him.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: sunshine12 on August 05, 2009, 08:10:32 PM
ng said that they will be talking about the case tonite and about a playmates of roberts who could blow the case wide open because of how their info would affect the timeline


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 05, 2009, 08:11:01 PM
Just caught the very end of a short statement that said Robert's death was not an accident. It was a homicide they will be working on the case to find who killed him.

Thank you. 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: klaasend on August 05, 2009, 08:12:33 PM
http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0509-manwill_confirmation.afe90bdd.html

Kerns on Manwill homicide: "We will find out who did this"

06:07 PM MDT on Wednesday, August 5, 2009
BOISE - After days of repetitive information and little to go on, the tone from Boise Police Deputy Chief Jim Kerns changed Wednesday.  The death of 8-year-old Robert Manwill is a homicide.

“We will find out who did this, and we will hold them accountable,” Kerns said.

Hours after the Ada County Coroner released a positive identification on the body of Robert Manwill, found in a Kuna canal Monday, Kerns stepped before the microphones and made a short statement.

“Preliminary results from the autopsy give us reason to believe that the death of Robert Manwill was not an accident,” he said.

Kerns seemed almost angry in his tone.

“Justice will not be denied for Robert Manwill,” he said.

He also said there is no evidence that Manwill is the victim of any type of abduction, but he would not detail if the department has any suspects in the case.

“Our justice system demands criminal investigations be thorough and methodical”


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 05, 2009, 08:13:21 PM
Kerns on Manwill homicide: "We will find out who did this"

06:07 PM MDT on Wednesday, August 5, 2009


BOISE - After days of repetitive information and little to go on, the tone from Boise Police Deputy Chief Jim Kerns changed Wednesday.  The death of 8-year-old Robert Manwill is a homicide.

“We will find out who did this, and we will hold them accountable,” Kerns said.

Hours after the Ada County Coroner released a positive identification on the body of Robert Manwill, found in a Kuna canal Monday, Kerns stepped before the microphones and made a short statement.

“Preliminary results from the autopsy give us reason to believe that the death of Robert Manwill was not an accident,” he said.

Kerns seemed almost angry in his tone.

“Justice will not be denied for Robert Manwill,” he said.

He also said there is no evidence that Manwill is the victim of any type of abduction, but he would not detail if the department has any suspects in the case.

“Our justice system demands criminal investigations be thorough and methodical”

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0509-manwill_confirmation.afe90bdd.html




Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: sunshine12 on August 05, 2009, 08:14:25 PM
so they are saying it wasn't an abduction, to me that is just further proof that they are pretty sure it was mom or the bf


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 05, 2009, 08:15:01 PM
so they are saying it wasn't an abduction, to me that is just further proof that they are pretty sure it was mom or the bf
Yes  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 05, 2009, 08:16:28 PM
Kerns on Manwill homicide: "We will find out who did this"

06:07 PM MDT on Wednesday, August 5, 2009


BOISE - After days of repetitive information and little to go on, the tone from Boise Police Deputy Chief Jim Kerns changed Wednesday.  The death of 8-year-old Robert Manwill is a homicide.

“We will find out who did this, and we will hold them accountable,” Kerns said.

Hours after the Ada County Coroner released a positive identification on the body of Robert Manwill, found in a Kuna canal Monday, Kerns stepped before the microphones and made a short statement.

“Preliminary results from the autopsy give us reason to believe that the death of Robert Manwill was not an accident,” he said.

Kerns seemed almost angry in his tone.

“Justice will not be denied for Robert Manwill,” he said.

He also said there is no evidence that Manwill is the victim of any type of abduction, but he would not detail if the department has any suspects in the case.

“Our justice system demands criminal investigations be thorough and methodical”

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0509-manwill_confirmation.afe90bdd.html





Thanks, the conference was so short that I only caught the very end and then the announcer summed it up. This looks bad, no accident and no abduction.......


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 05, 2009, 08:16:32 PM
so they are saying it wasn't an abduction, to me that is just further proof that they are pretty sure it was mom or the bf

I agree!


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: can on August 05, 2009, 08:17:54 PM
Does anyone know if that would be 8:00 p.m. ET?

Hi  ::MonkeySkate:: ::MonkeySkate:: JSM!
Hi Can  ::MonkeySkate::  ::MonkeySkate:: Glad Leroy is taking care of the time frame on the presser.  ::MonkeySkate::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ditto


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Tina Bee on August 05, 2009, 08:23:18 PM
Nancy has yet to cover Robert's case in depth, but it the body has been confirmed as Robert's so :smt088

Right now NG is covering a case of an exhausted mother dealing with an unruly child inside of a store. If every single moment of my life was recorded by cameras I'd be in jail myself for some of things I've done.

I'm not a parent, but children are exhausting. I've had people cut their eyes at me when I wouldn't quiet one of my nieces inside of a store (that was already noisy). Sometimes you just give up, like this mother did. I don't think she should've been arrested.

That's just my opinion. I don't condone child abuse, but IMO this wasn't child abuse. Not even close.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: can on August 05, 2009, 08:26:19 PM
Nancy has yet to cover Robert's case in depth, but it the body has been confirmed as Robert's so :smt088

Right now NG is covering a case of an exhausted mother dealing with an unruly child inside of a store. If every single moment of my life was recorded by cameras I'd be in jail myself for some of things I've done.

I'm not a parent, but children are exhausting. I've had people cut their eyes at me when I wouldn't quiet one of my nieces inside of a store (that was already noisy). Sometimes you just give up, like this mother did. I don't think she should've been arrested.

That's just my opinion. I don't condone child abuse, but IMO this wasn't child abuse. Not even close.

There are alternatives to dragging a child along on the floor with a leash.
Couldn't the Mother has used a shopping cart to put the little boy in?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: can on August 05, 2009, 08:28:10 PM
"Justice will not be denied .........." 
I expect there will be an arrest soon.
R. I. P. little Robert.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 05, 2009, 08:39:19 PM
Nancy Grace...did you just wake up???  WTH!

Is anyone watching NG right now?  I am shocked at what Mark Klaas said   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: sunshine12 on August 05, 2009, 08:44:11 PM
do you think they think its more than two people because he said that they "will hold those responsible"... just seeing the news conference, its sooo clear that they pretty much know what happened.  ugh, this is such a sin..

as far as the 7 year old little girl witness, i believe it to be credible.  and the 7 30 pm timeline sounds like it could be accurate as well. 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 05, 2009, 08:51:26 PM
do you think they think its more than two people because he said that they "will hold those responsible"... just seeing the news conference, its sooo clear that they pretty much know what happened.  ugh, this is such a sin..

as far as the 7 year old little girl witness, i believe it to be credible.  and the 7 30 pm timeline sounds like it could be accurate as well. 

i think they now who is responsible and have known for awhile...IMO.

and yes, I think the little girls time fits right in.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 05, 2009, 09:00:16 PM
Nancy Grace...did you just wake up???  WTH!

Is anyone watching NG right now?  I am shocked at what Mark Klaas said   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 
What did he say?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 05, 2009, 09:00:22 PM
Nancy Grace...did you just wake up???  WTH!

Is anyone watching NG right now?  I am shocked at what Mark Klaas said   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

I think Mark Klaas is giving mom the benefit of the doubt and he thinks the BF is the one responsible. jmo

I am so angry. If they can tell he was murdered and that it wasn't an accident, it means more than likely little man suffered. I hope the monster(s) responsible are behind bars before the week is out or the get hit by a bus, or stuck dead by lightening. Whichever is quicker.
To know that they are out there free to walk the streets makes my blood boil.



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: lady on August 05, 2009, 09:00:23 PM
Nancy has yet to cover Robert's case in depth, but it the body has been confirmed as Robert's so :smt088

Right now NG is covering a case of an exhausted mother dealing with an unruly child inside of a store. If every single moment of my life was recorded by cameras I'd be in jail myself for some of things I've done.

I'm not a parent, but children are exhausting. I've had people cut their eyes at me when I wouldn't quiet one of my nieces inside of a store (that was already noisy). Sometimes you just give up, like this mother did. I don't think she should've been arrested.

That's just my opinion. I don't condone child abuse, but IMO this wasn't child abuse. Not even close.

There are alternatives to dragging a child along on the floor with a leash.
Couldn't the Mother has used a shopping cart to put the little boy in?

The leash was around the childs neck..to me thats not right


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 05, 2009, 09:01:03 PM
do you think they think its more than two people because he said that they "will hold those responsible"... just seeing the news conference, its sooo clear that they pretty much know what happened.  ugh, this is such a sin..

as far as the 7 year old little girl witness, i believe it to be credible.  and the 7 30 pm timeline sounds like it could be accurate as well. 
I noticed that also, those responsible  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 05, 2009, 09:05:53 PM
Thanks klaas and Leroy and all for the updates.

no rose, Mark said that Robert's mom left the police station in tears yesterday having to be supported by two family members just to walk, much like he and his wife reacted after being told Polly was dead.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill, 8yrs old missing since 7/24/09 pm Boise, Idaho
Post by: cherjers on August 05, 2009, 09:07:27 PM
yea, im still a little confused on the timeline of the case but i also think that it's highly possible that the bf killed robert when mom was at work. i guess with a clearer timeline i would be more sure of what the mother's role was in all of this.  based on w ::MonkeyLaugh::itnesses that saw him at 7 30pm, and if mom got home from work at 9, i dont know if thats enough time for the bf to kill him, clean up blood, and bury him in his friends back yard (which i strongly believe happened) before the mother got back from work. 
I thought the mother saw him that night around 9.30 said he wanted to go to a party-I could be wrong-wouldnt be the first time ::MonkeyLaugh::I dont trust anything mommy dearest says anyway.

It was reported mom wasn't home. It's never been confirmed by LE where Melissa was or was not.

Police initially said the boy may have been wanting to go to a party, but then stepped back, saying that might not be true. They did the same on an early report that Robert was last seen at the playground.
  Thanks


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 05, 2009, 09:08:04 PM
Thanks klaas and Leroy and all for the updates.

no rose, Mark said that Robert's mom left the police station in tears yesterday having to be supported by two family members just to walk, much like he and his wife reacted after being told Polly was dead.
Thank-you, either she is totally devastated because she doesn't know what happened, or she is a good actress  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: sunshine12 on August 05, 2009, 09:10:39 PM
i believe the mom had to be involved somewhat, maybe covering up for the bf since they both gave that bs timeline to the police in the beginning about a birthday party he wanted to go to that was late at night.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 05, 2009, 09:12:33 PM
i believe the mom had to be involved somewhat, maybe covering up for the bf since they both gave that bs timeline to the police in the beginning about a birthday party he wanted to go to that was late at night.

I think the mom just told the police what the BF had told her. What she believed to be true. It's been reported she was at work. Though not confirmed by LE. We will have to wait and see.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 05, 2009, 09:14:20 PM
i believe the mom had to be involved somewhat, maybe covering up for the bf since they both gave that bs timeline to the police in the beginning about a birthday party he wanted to go to that was late at night.

I think the mom just told the police what the BF had told her. What she believed to be true. It's been reported she was at work. Though not confirmed by LE. We will have to wait and see.

Even if she wasn't involved, her hands are not completely clean. To leave Robert with her boyfriend, the same BF that wasn't allowed to be around her daughter unsupervised, she has some guilt in this.

jmo


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cherjers on August 05, 2009, 09:14:52 PM
Nancy has yet to cover Robert's case in depth, but it the body has been confirmed as Robert's so :smt088

Right now NG is covering a case of an exhausted mother dealing with an unruly child inside of a store. If every single moment of my life was recorded by cameras I'd be in jail myself for some of things I've done.

I'm not a parent, but children are exhausting. I've had people cut their eyes at me when I wouldn't quiet one of my nieces inside of a store (that was already noisy). Sometimes you just give up, like this mother did. I don't think she should've been arrested.

That's just my opinion. I don't condone child abuse, but IMO this wasn't child abuse. Not even close.

There are alternatives to dragging a child along on the floor with a leash.
Couldn't the Mother has used a shopping cart to put the little boy in?

  First of all if the mother drags around her child on a leash-could be why the child is so difficult.  All of us who have children at one time or another have had to deal with a crying child in a mall.  I would bet none us went to a pet store to buy a leash.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: can on August 05, 2009, 09:15:20 PM
Nancy has yet to cover Robert's case in depth, but it the body has been confirmed as Robert's so :smt088

Right now NG is covering a case of an exhausted mother dealing with an unruly child inside of a store. If every single moment of my life was recorded by cameras I'd be in jail myself for some of things I've done.

I'm not a parent, but children are exhausting. I've had people cut their eyes at me when I wouldn't quiet one of my nieces inside of a store (that was already noisy). Sometimes you just give up, like this mother did. I don't think she should've been arrested.

That's just my opinion. I don't condone child abuse, but IMO this wasn't child abuse. Not even close.

There are alternatives to dragging a child along on the floor with a leash.
Couldn't the Mother has used a shopping cart to put the little boy in?

The leash was around the childs neck..to me thats not right
Sorry to be o/t again but my perception of what I saw was brutal.
The Mother did not look exhausted, although that is no excuse, she appeared to have lots of energy dragging that child along the aisles.  I'm glad she has been picked up and this child will be spared this abuse and indignity in the future.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 05, 2009, 09:17:48 PM
Nancy has yet to cover Robert's case in depth, but it the body has been confirmed as Robert's so :smt088

Right now NG is covering a case of an exhausted mother dealing with an unruly child inside of a store. If every single moment of my life was recorded by cameras I'd be in jail myself for some of things I've done.

I'm not a parent, but children are exhausting. I've had people cut their eyes at me when I wouldn't quiet one of my nieces inside of a store (that was already noisy). Sometimes you just give up, like this mother did. I don't think she should've been arrested.

That's just my opinion. I don't condone child abuse, but IMO this wasn't child abuse. Not even close.

There are alternatives to dragging a child along on the floor with a leash.
Couldn't the Mother has used a shopping cart to put the little boy in?

The leash was around the childs neck..to me thats not right
no that isn't right...but it was one of those baby-harness thingies that fit around the torso and have a 'leash' attached to the back...i saw the vid and well...i don't know... i have never owned one of those, and when my kid won't budge i just pick her up and move her...but i could see on the other hand where a mother would say fine, if your not gonna walk i'll just drag you...i don't agree with her but the kid doesn't seem affected.  thats one for the courts.  not me.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: can on August 05, 2009, 09:18:36 PM
Nancy has yet to cover Robert's case in depth, but it the body has been confirmed as Robert's so :smt088

Right now NG is covering a case of an exhausted mother dealing with an unruly child inside of a store. If every single moment of my life was recorded by cameras I'd be in jail myself for some of things I've done.

I'm not a parent, but children are exhausting. I've had people cut their eyes at me when I wouldn't quiet one of my nieces inside of a store (that was already noisy). Sometimes you just give up, like this mother did. I don't think she should've been arrested.

That's just my opinion. I don't condone child abuse, but IMO this wasn't child abuse. Not even close.

There are alternatives to dragging a child along on the floor with a leash.
Couldn't the Mother has used a shopping cart to put the little boy in?

  First of all if the mother drags around her child on a leash-could be why the child is so difficult.  All of us who have children at one time or another have had to deal with a crying child in a mall.  I would bet none us went to a pet store to buy a leash.

Cherjers - I bet you're right.  Thank God!


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cherjers on August 05, 2009, 09:21:42 PM
Nancy Grace...did you just wake up???  WTH!

Is anyone watching NG right now?  I am shocked at what Mark Klaas said   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

I think Mark Klaas is giving mom the benefit of the doubt and he thinks the BF is the one responsible. jmo

I am so angry. If they can tell he was murdered and that it wasn't an accident, it means more than likely little man suffered. I hope the monster(s) responsible are behind bars before the week is out or the get hit by a bus, or stuck dead by lightening. Whichever is quicker.
To know that they are out there free to walk the streets makes my blood boil.


I dont care if the mother actually killed Robert or not.  She put him in harms way  with the nut of a boyfriend -  but she is not playing with a full deck fracturing her infant  head---WHY DO THIS NUT CASES HAVE CHILDREN-why dont they just do their drugs or whatever and live their life without bring a child into the world


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Anna on August 05, 2009, 09:21:49 PM
Some of us even managed to shop with multiple rowdy children without resorting to a leash. 



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Anna on August 05, 2009, 09:26:57 PM
Why in the world don't people like Robert's mother just have themselves rendered permanently unable to have children instead of being so cruel to them?  They obviously don't want them, can't cope, etc.  A simple tubal ligation would prevent their giving birth to any. 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Anna on August 05, 2009, 09:27:37 PM
Prayers and JUSTICE for Robert! 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: luvmyboys on August 05, 2009, 09:28:15 PM
Does anyone know where the mom works at. The name of the place the town/city


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: can on August 05, 2009, 09:28:24 PM
Prayers and JUSTICE for Robert! 
Amen.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 05, 2009, 09:30:09 PM
http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/Police/Multimedia/DepartmentVideos/LatestManwillPresserV11.wmv

Link to this evening's presser. 8/5/09

Wow, he was angry. He has fire in his eyes and he is talking right to "the perps". He wants them to know he knows and it's just a matter of time.

I really have to commend Boise PD and Kern. From day one they have been nothing but professional and dedicated to not only finding Robert but keeping the focus on Robert.

They called in all the right agencies, search teams and asked for help from the public when they needed it. They kept the media updated every day. Sometimes twice a day. They kept the focus on Robert and their eyes on the ball.  Although we wanted more details regarding time line and their investigation, they have played it close to the chest.

They are a fine bunch of LE and I am proud they are in little man's corner.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 05, 2009, 09:31:15 PM
Does anyone know where the mom works at. The name of the place the town/city

No. It's never been mentioned, luv. Sorry.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 05, 2009, 09:31:27 PM
has there been an arrest yet???


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 05, 2009, 09:34:42 PM
Prayers and JUSTICE for Robert! 

Amen Anna. Nice to see you hon. :)

I agree with you about the tubal!


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 05, 2009, 09:35:27 PM
http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/Police/Multimedia/DepartmentVideos/LatestManwillPresserV11.wmv

Link to this evening's presser. 8/5/09

Wow, he was angry. He has fire in his eyes and he is talking right to "the perps". He wants them to know he knows and it's just a matter of time.

I really have to commend Boise PD and Kern. From day one they have been nothing but professional and dedicated to not only finding Robert but keeping the focus on Robert.

They called in all the right agencies, search teams and asked for help from the public when they needed it. They kept the media updated every day. Sometimes twice a day. They kept the focus on Robert and their eyes on the ball.  Although we wanted more details regarding time line and their investigation, they have played it close to the chest.

They are a fine bunch of LE and I am proud they are in little man's corner.
they have my utmost respect as well...this police force should be commended and recognized as well...if i ever move (and i doubt i will) i will strongly consider Idaho!  The LE there really have their stuff together ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 05, 2009, 09:37:23 PM
Robert Manwill was murdered

Story Updated: Aug 5, 2009 at 6:18 PM MDT
By Paul Fredericks

Police say it was no accident. And there remains no evidence that indicates Robert Manwill was abducted by a stranger.

The 8-year-old was last seen outside the apartment where his mother lives in Boise on the night of July 24. His body was pulled from the New York Canal - about 14 miles away - on Monday, August 3.

The Ada County Coroner on Wednesday said forensic dental information helped to positively identify the body found in the canal as Robert Manwill.

Speaking at a press briefing on Wednesday evening, Boise Police Chief Deputy Jim Kerns said "Justice will not be denied for Robert." Kerns said the justice system demands investigations like this one be thorough and methodical. He says the police cannot compromise legal procedures with the premature release of details.

Daniel Ehrlick, Jr. is the brother of Robert's Mother, Melissa Jenkins. His father, Daniel Ehrlick, Sr., told CBS 2 that his granddaughter told him that his son is being treated at Intermountain Hospital, a psychiatric care facility in Boise.

Police have not named any suspects, and no one is in custody.

http://www.2news.tv/news/local/52555322.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 05, 2009, 09:40:30 PM
Group plans walk in honor of Robert Manwill

Story Updated: Aug 5, 2009 at 3:25 PM MDT
By Scott Logan
BOISE -- While many are remembering eight-year-old Robert Manwill through the sidewalk memorial near his mom's apartment in Boise, still others have new ways to honor his memory.

Some are organzing a walk for Robert Saturday morning at 9 a.m. -- 11 loops from the New York Canal at Vista Avenue around the apartment complex and memorial and back.

"We're considering it 11 laps for the 11 days he was missing before we found him," said Monica Dalton, co-organizer of the walk for Robert.

Those interested in taking part can meet by the Jackson's at the top of the hill near Vista Avenue.

http://www.2news.tv/news/local/52546027.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cookie on August 05, 2009, 09:47:50 PM
Robert Manwill was murdered

Story Updated: Aug 5, 2009 at 6:18 PM MDT
By Paul Fredericks

Police say it was no accident. And there remains no evidence that indicates Robert Manwill was abducted by a stranger.

The 8-year-old was last seen outside the apartment where his mother lives in Boise on the night of July 24. His body was pulled from the New York Canal - about 14 miles away - on Monday, August 3.

The Ada County Coroner on Wednesday said forensic dental information helped to positively identify the body found in the canal as Robert Manwill.

Speaking at a press briefing on Wednesday evening, Boise Police Chief Deputy Jim Kerns said "Justice will not be denied for Robert." Kerns said the justice system demands investigations like this one be thorough and methodical. He says the police cannot compromise legal procedures with the premature release of details.

Daniel Ehrlick, Jr. is the brother of Robert's Mother, Melissa Jenkins. His father, Daniel Ehrlick, Sr., told CBS 2 that his granddaughter told him that his son is being treated at Intermountain Hospital, a psychiatric care facility in Boise.

Police have not named any suspects, and no one is in custody.

http://www.2news.tv/news/local/52555322.html

was he recently being treated in the psych facility, since Robert went missing or has he been there for awhile?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 05, 2009, 09:54:53 PM
Robert Manwill was murdered

Story Updated: Aug 5, 2009 at 6:18 PM MDT
By Paul Fredericks

Police say it was no accident. And there remains no evidence that indicates Robert Manwill was abducted by a stranger.

The 8-year-old was last seen outside the apartment where his mother lives in Boise on the night of July 24. His body was pulled from the New York Canal - about 14 miles away - on Monday, August 3.

The Ada County Coroner on Wednesday said forensic dental information helped to positively identify the body found in the canal as Robert Manwill.

Speaking at a press briefing on Wednesday evening, Boise Police Chief Deputy Jim Kerns said "Justice will not be denied for Robert." Kerns said the justice system demands investigations like this one be thorough and methodical. He says the police cannot compromise legal procedures with the premature release of details.

Daniel Ehrlick, Jr. is the brother of Robert's Mother, Melissa Jenkins. His father, Daniel Ehrlick, Sr., told CBS 2 that his granddaughter told him that his son is being treated at Intermountain Hospital, a psychiatric care facility in Boise.

Police have not named any suspects, and no one is in custody.

http://www.2news.tv/news/local/52555322.html

was he recently being treated in the psych facility, since Robert went missing or has he been there for awhile?

KTVB spoke with the family of Daniel Ehrlick, Jr., Jenkin's live-in boyfriend.

Since the boy’s disappearance, he's been in and out of the hospital for unspecified treatments, according to family.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0509-manwill_confirmation.afe90bdd.html

Can anyone say Melissa Huckaby?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Kat_Gram on August 05, 2009, 10:25:32 PM
My vote is for the bf. Now bio egg donor got no bf. Boo hoo for her. 
Big meanie person here. 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: luvmyboys on August 05, 2009, 10:33:24 PM
So I am thinking he is in the hospital. Prolly cause he killed robert. . And will prolly get arrested and cry temporary insanity. Or some crap like that.  Is the reason for the dental id. Because of how bad his murder was that he was unreconizable. Or because he was in water. I have seen other cases where they did not have to get id by dental records. I am just asking because I don't know. I am trying to learn I am in the process of building a website. It is all about missing children ,gone but not forgot,it is called www.childrenaremissing.com I am not finished with it yet it takes awhile I am new to this. Caylee marie is my reason. She is why I do what I do. I am even putting tips on my site.  Before I what happen with caylee I was no where aware of all of the evil in this world. Don't get me wrong. When it comes to my boys I have always been overprotective but it is way worse now. What I get from all of the missing and murdered children.  Is.  "You only get one chance"


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: luvmyboys on August 05, 2009, 11:30:53 PM
Wow did I say something wrong. I posted about 45 minutes ago. Now noone is saying anything. Did I say something wrong?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 05, 2009, 11:48:16 PM
So I am thinking he is in the hospital. Prolly cause he killed robert. . And will prolly get arrested and cry temporary insanity. Or some crap like that.  Is the reason for the dental id. Because of how bad his murder was that he was unreconizable. Or because he was in water. I have seen other cases where they did not have to get id by dental records. I am just asking because I don't know. I am trying to learn I am in the process of building a website. It is all about missing children ,gone but not forgot,it is called www.childrenaremissing.com I am not finished with it yet it takes awhile I am new to this. Caylee marie is my reason. She is why I do what I do. I am even putting tips on my site.  Before I what happen with caylee I was no where aware of all of the evil in this world. Don't get me wrong. When it comes to my boys I have always been overprotective but it is way worse now. What I get from all of the missing and murdered children.  Is.  "You only get one chance"

I am guessing it's because of it was in the water. 10 days in that heat and in water. Not a pretty sight.

They probably new by size, height, hair color, clothes on him that it was Robert (that is why they were quick to tentatively ID him) but they have to confirm it. Since they wouldn't ask a parent to view that, they use either dental or DNA. Dental is quicker if available.

I won't go into the gruesome details but here is a link you can read about bodies in the water.
http://www.enotes.com/forensic-science/drowning-signs


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 05, 2009, 11:51:16 PM
My vote is for the bf. Now bio egg donor got no bf. Boo hoo for her. 
Big meanie person here. 

You are not a big meanie, Kat. You are a sweetie. :)

I agree. BooHoo.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: luvmyboys on August 05, 2009, 11:55:32 PM
Oh ok. So he was in the water for 10 days. Ever since he was murdered. Is that what we think or did he come out. Cause I thought. I read that some people were thinking that he was in that guy with the missing suv. But I guess everything at this point is speculation


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: luvmyboys on August 05, 2009, 11:57:29 PM
Sorry I meant to say I read that people were saying he was buried in the back yard. Of the guy who owned the suv


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: luvmyboys on August 06, 2009, 12:05:15 AM
There should be a special place for child killers. Somewhere like hell but we get to see the hell that they will have to go through. I would feel better seeing it with my own eyes. I am not crazy you guys. I am so tired of all these babies,children. Getting killed or molested or raped. They should all pay. And only half do. And it is not right


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 12:27:13 AM
Oh ok. So he was in the water for 10 days. Ever since he was murdered. Is that what we think or did he come out. Cause I thought. I read that some people were thinking that he was in that guy with the missing suv. But I guess everything at this point is speculation

It is all speculation at this point. We don't know what evidence that may have found in Wallis's backyard or SUV. Or what evidence they found at the apartment that lead them to announce that Robert may have been a victim of a tragedy event. They are not sharing details or confirming anything.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 12:31:18 AM
Oh ok. So he was in the water for 10 days. Ever since he was murdered. Is that what we think or did he come out. Cause I thought. I read that some people were thinking that he was in that guy with the missing suv. But I guess everything at this point is speculation

It is all speculation at this point. We don't know what evidence that may have found in Wallis's backyard or SUV. Or what evidence they found at the apartment that lead them to announce that Robert may have been a victim of a tragedy event. They are not sharing details or confirming anything.

I meant to add we don't know how long he was in the water. The coroner implied he had been in the water a long time based on the amount of decomposition.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 05:43:55 AM
Someone killed 8-year-old Robert Manwill
BY KATHLEEN KRELLER AND KATY MOELLER - kkreller@idahostatesman.com kmoeller@idahostatesman.com

As Boise Deputy Police Chief Jim Kerns promised Wednesday to "determine how and when Robert Manwill died, and who is responsible," his comments narrowed the field of suspects to people who knew Robert.

Police still won't name any suspects or even people of interest. Kerns said police would not prematurely release anything that could "compromise the legal procedures" and the integrity of their case.

A neighbor said she heard Melissa Jenkins tell police she was working the night 8-year-old Robert disappeared. Another neighbor said she saw Daniel Ehrlick Jr. about 7:45 that night outside his home. He often stayed home to care for Robert and the couple's 18-month-old son, Aidan.

State Health and Welfare officials had taken the younger boy away from Jenkins and Ehrlick Jr. last October, after Jenkins was charged with fracturing the child's skull.

Jenkins later was convicted of misdemeanor injury to a child and is on probation until March 2011.

A neighbor and friend, Carol Carrillo, said Aidan had been back in their custody for about two months. She said the couple worked hard to meet Health and Welfare standards to get him back.

Robert lived primarily with his father, Charles, in New Plymouth - an arrangement crafted after Jenkins was laid up in the hospital for a few weeks before Aidan was born and she had no one to take care of Robert.

An affidavit that Charles Manwill filed at the time to get temporary custody of Robert states that Jenkins told him she "was being physically abused by her ex-boyfriend (the apparent father of the unborn child)."

He added that the hospital "has kept the admission of mother Melissa, and her room number, secret because mother Melissa is concerned that the ex-boyfriend may storm into the hospital and mother Melissa's room and cause extreme trouble."

Ehrlick Jr. also has been barred from being around Jenkins' daughter, not from anything he did, but because the father, Raymond Ames, said he didn't like him or want him around the toddler. The girl lived with Melissa Jenkins until Ames got custody last year.

Family and neighbors say Ehrlick Jr. has given at least two separate explanations about the night Robert disappeared.

Ehrlick Jr.'s father said his son accused him of taking Robert, but he denied it. A resident in the building who did not want to be identified said Ehrlick Jr. told her that Robert was in the hot tub and pool the night he went missing and that a heavy-set couple invited the child to a birthday party. Other neighbors say Robert was never near the pool that night.

Neighbors said neither Jenkins nor Ehrlick Jr. have been at the apartment since Wednesday. One neighbor and KBCI-TV said Ehrlick Jr. has been in a treatment center since being treated at Saint Alphonsus Regional Medical Center in Boise for an undisclosed reason.

Dorothy Aydelotte, Robert's aunt and sister of his father, said Charles Manwill is doing his best to deal with Robert's death.

"He's better than he was a couple days ago, but not good," Aydelotte said. "He's upset, understandably. Robert was very close with his dad."

On Wednesday, Carrillo, Jenkins' upstairs neighbor, said she trusted Jenkins and Ehrlick with her four kids and doesn't believe either of them could be involved.

"There's a little boy who's dead," she said. "There can be no common sense to that. Who could do that? It's hard for me to see that someone that I interacted with on a daily basis could do something like that. ... I'm not in the grieving stage, I'm in the shock stage."

Mindy Clark, who lives in the apartment complex, visited the makeshift memorial to Robert that has been growing for days.

"I feel kind of devastated ... . I've seen him playing," Clark said. "(Today's news is) just kind of hard to swallow. It's just hard ... . Who would hurt a child and just throw him away?"
http://www.bradenton.com/news/breaking_news/story/1621456.html

(http://media.bradenton.com/smedia/2009/08/05/23/0806_Local_vigil.standalone.prod_affiliate.69.jpg)



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 06:06:33 AM
Emotions Flare After Robert's Death is Homicide

Posted: Aug 5, 2009 11:50 PM
Updated: Aug 5, 2009 11:50 PM

There's been 2 types of reactions out here from Robert's memorial: sadness and anger after knowing that someone had the ability to murder an 8-year old little boy.

"I don't know what to say. It makes you want to hold on to the ones you have more," said a father Mike Robison.

Many were speechless, shocked, and even angry.

"So many things all at one time, it kills you," said a mother Heather Estrada.

Tears shed as many say they are in disbelief someone could kill a little boy, even for 6 year old Mariah Martinez.

"He didn't deserve to die he was just a kid. He just wanted to have fun," said 6-year old Mariah Martinez.

So many emotions are pouring out from the community once police announced that 8-year old Robert Manwill's death was ruled as homicide.

"They're so innocent to begin with and yet to have their lives taken from them. For what? There can't be any explanation is to why something like that would happen," said Robison.

"Just seeing them and then hearing the boy it's just hard," said a mother Rebecca Weiss.

"It's heart-wrenching. If there's one word that should be it," said Estrada.

Candles, dozens of teddy bears, flowers and even letters saying Robert's in a better place fill his memorial.

In the last 24 hours Robert's memorial has nearly tripled in size as families continue to stop by to drop off their condolences.

Many parents say this is far from over, until they find Robert's killer.

"It's wrong. Just will be done through, it will be served," said a mother Wendy Wilemon.

There's word that all of these teddy bears from Robert's memorial will be donated to the Ronald McDonald sight after the vigil on Friday night.
(http://kivi.images.worldnow.com/images/10856639_BG1.jpg)
http://www.kivitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10856639
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http://www.kivitv.com/global/Category.asp?c=169854&autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=4019831&flvUri=



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 06:13:06 AM
Timeline of events from the Robert Manwill investigation
Statesman staff - Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/06/09

Friday, July 24:

- 7 to 7:30 p.m. Kimberlly Davidson, a 7-year-old girl who lives in Oak Park Village, says she saw Robert at a playground.

- 10:11 p.m. Robert is reported missing. Police man checkpoint on Vista Avenue to talk to motorists.

Saturday, July 25: The FBI joins the search effort. Search dogs scour Oak Park grounds. Police issue a description of Robert at about 6 a.m. to see if anyone has seen him.

Sunday, July 26: After divers search a pond at Oak Park Village, officials begin draining the pond. Volunteers join the search.

Monday, July 27: An Idaho National Guard helicopter conducts an aerial search, while police and about 100 volunteers search the public areas near Oak Park Village, the banks of the New York Canal, railroad tracks, streets and shopping centers. Robert's family - including his mother, Melissa Jenkins, and her boyfriend, Daniel Ehrlick Jr., attend a press conference calling for help.

Tuesday, July 28: Police and FBI continue a house-to-house search and interview more than 100 registered sex offenders who live within a 2-mile radius. More than 120 volunteers coordinated by Boise police and Idaho Mountain Search & Rescue continue to search near the apartment.

Wednesday, July 29:

- Volunteers and police finish grid search. Boise police announce they are asking for as many as 1,000 volunteers to search July 31.

- A Statesman report reveals that Jenkins is on probation for fracturing the skull of Robert's infant half brother and that Ehrlick Jr. has been convicted of burglary, battery and possession of drug paraphernalia, and is banned by the courts from being alone with Robert's half sister.

Thursday, July 30

- 8:15 p.m. A forensics team searches the apartment where Robert was staying with his mother and Ehrlick Jr. They remove items and tow a vehicle. Police bring in search dogs to sniff around the complex grounds.

Friday, July 31 :

- 9 a.m. The first wave of about 2,300 volunteers joins police in a massive search for Robert.

- Noon Police report that they have evidence indicating Robert may have been injured or could be a "victim of a tragic event."

- 3:15 p.m. An Ada County sheriff's deputy guards a portion of the Hidden Hollow Landfill, right, and makes sure nothing is disturbed from Saturday morning's trash run.

- 5:53 p.m. Ada County sheriff's investigators prepare to search a house and dig up its backyard on the 6600 block of Southdale Avenue, near Five Mile Road. Resident Evan Wallis said he knows Robert's family but doesn't know why police are searching his house. He tells police someone stole his Chevy Suburban July 22.

- Saint Alphonsus Regional Medical Center confirms that Ehrlick Jr. had been admitted and released from the hospital, but wouldn't say when or for what he was treated.

Saturday, Aug. 1: A makeshift tribute to Robert is created on a sidewalk on Shoshone Street, near Jenkins' apartment.

Monday, Aug. 3: 1:28 p.m. A nearby homeowner and a road crew member call police after seeing a body in the New York Canal near Cloverdale Road in southern Ada County. A sheriff's deputy jumps in and pulls the body out. In contrast with previous press updates, Robert's family does not attend Monday's conference.

Tuesday, Aug. 4

- 9 a.m. A coroner's pathologist begins an autopsy on the body found in the canal.

- 4 p.m. Police report that the Ada County coroner had "tentatively" identified the body as Robert.

- Wednesday, Aug. 5

- 4:22 p.m. The coroner's office says dental records confirm that it was Robert in the canal.

- 6 p.m. Boise police say the autopsy showed Robert's death was "not an accident" and say they are beginning a homicide investigation.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/robertmanwill/story/857386.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: melisb on August 06, 2009, 08:23:13 AM
Does anyone know if Robert's father was aware of his exwifes' convicion for fracturing the skull of her baby and that her bf was still in the home with her?  I'm having a hard time understanding why he fought so hard to get Robert but didn't keep him away from her with all her criminal circumstances.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Tams on August 06, 2009, 08:52:28 AM
Morning Everyone (if anyone is up yet, that is!) -

Excerpts from Pink's post #1218 in the wee morning hours today, which scream to me:

..."An affidavit that Charles Manwill filed at the time to get temporary custody of Robert states that Jenkins told him she "was being physically abused by her ex-boyfriend (the apparent father of the unborn child)."

..."He added that the hospital "has kept the admission of mother Melissa, and her room number, secret because mother Melissa is concerned that the ex-boyfriend may storm into the hospital and mother Melissa's room and cause extreme trouble."

..."Ehrlick Jr. also has been barred from being around Jenkins' daughter, not from anything he did, but because the father, Raymond Ames, said he didn't like him or want him around the toddler. The girl lived with Melissa Jenkins until Ames got custody last year."

http://www.bradenton.com/news/breaking_news/story/1621456.html

Wow. The picture is becoming clearer that Ehrlick is a violent, drug-addled low life with a criminal history . . . I wonder if MJ (not Michael Jackson, LOL) did cover for bf in the injury of her other baby? If she is a 'battered wife' who is too afraid to try to leave her abuser? Surely makes one wonder, doesn't it?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 06, 2009, 09:56:58 AM
Thanks for the timeline, and Tams your post does make me wonder. Perhaps she did take the blame for what happened to the infant  ::MonkeyNoNo:: What a horrible situation, and I'm sick to death of these horrible situations where a child either gets injured or killed because a parent is too brain dead to do the right thing  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Anna on August 06, 2009, 11:43:34 AM
Thanks for all the timely updates.

Apologies in advance if this has already been asked and I missed it but does Idaho have the death penalty?  Child under the age of 12 and all that?  I hope so.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Anna on August 06, 2009, 11:49:43 AM
Group plans walk in honor of Robert Manwill

Story Updated: Aug 5, 2009 at 3:25 PM MDT
By Scott Logan
BOISE -- While many are remembering eight-year-old Robert Manwill through the sidewalk memorial near his mom's apartment in Boise, still others have new ways to honor his memory.

Some are organzing a walk for Robert Saturday morning at 9 a.m. -- 11 loops from the New York Canal at Vista Avenue around the apartment complex and memorial and back.

"We're considering it 11 laps for the 11 days he was missing before we found him," said Monica Dalton, co-organizer of the walk for Robert.

Those interested in taking part can meet by the Jackson's at the top of the hill near Vista Avenue.

http://www.2news.tv/news/local/52546027.html


The route of this walk seems to speak volumes, at least to me.  Almost as though they are re-enacting the crime?  Like a neon, flashing sign pointing to the mother and her bf.  At least that is how it appears IMO.  I think some people are very upset and angry about this as well they should be.  And aren't we all!

 ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Anna on August 06, 2009, 12:03:35 PM
Morning Everyone (if anyone is up yet, that is!) -

Excerpts from Pink's post #1218 in the wee morning hours today, which scream to me:

..."An affidavit that Charles Manwill filed at the time to get temporary custody of Robert states that Jenkins told him she "was being physically abused by her ex-boyfriend (the apparent father of the unborn child)."

..."He added that the hospital "has kept the admission of mother Melissa, and her room number, secret because mother Melissa is concerned that the ex-boyfriend may storm into the hospital and mother Melissa's room and cause extreme trouble."

..."Ehrlick Jr. also has been barred from being around Jenkins' daughter, not from anything he did, but because the father, Raymond Ames, said he didn't like him or want him around the toddler. The girl lived with Melissa Jenkins until Ames got custody last year."

http://www.bradenton.com/news/breaking_news/story/1621456.html

Wow. The picture is becoming clearer that Ehrlick is a violent, drug-addled low life with a criminal history . . . I wonder if MJ (not Michael Jackson, LOL) did cover for bf in the injury of her other baby? If she is a 'battered wife' who is too afraid to try to leave her abuser? Surely makes one wonder, doesn't it?


And I hope someone has told Mr. Boyfriend that an insanity defense is only knowing right from wrong and concealment of the remains indicates knowing what was done was totally wrong. 

I try VERY hard not to ever say anything about any family unless an arrest is made.  It's what works best for me because of all the lies told about Natalee Holloway's mother but this one may require I sit on my hands to keep from speculating.

But how many times do we have to see this kind of thing before these women wake up to the danger of leaving their children with wackos and sociopaths and even know sex offenders?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Anna on August 06, 2009, 12:08:23 PM
PinkAngel and all, keep up the updates!  Will be checking back later when I hope I am not so emotional about this but being the mother of boys, it just hurts to know someone did this.  I can see my own at that age, etc.


Good job on reporting the coverage by all on this thread.  I expect an arrest at any time now.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 06, 2009, 01:17:11 PM
Thanks for all the timely updates.

Apologies in advance if this has already been asked and I missed it but does Idaho have the death penalty?  Child under the age of 12 and all that?  I hope so.

Idaho is a Death Penalty state and I hope whoever gets convicted of this crime will be sitting on death row!  Here is a link for current death row inmates (though i'm not sure when it was last updated)

http://www.corr.state.id.us/facts/death_row.htm



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 06, 2009, 01:22:42 PM
THIS MAY HAVE BEEN POSTED>>>>>..

'10 days for a body to float to Cloverdale Road'

Story Updated: Aug 6, 2009 at 10:42 AM MDT
BOISE – The question of how Robert’s body ended up in the New York canal is still a mystery.

Paul Devau, project manager for Boise Project Board of Control, says it is possible for a body to float the 14 miles from where Robert was last seen at his mother’s home, to where his body was found.

‘It takes about 10 days for a body to get from Boise to Cloverdale Road,” Devau said.

Ten days is the time from when Robert was last seen to when his body was pulled from the water near Cloverdale Road.

Devau also said there is only one set of body gates at Cloverdale Road and they were never dropped.

Boise Police originally searched the canals two days after Robert’s disappearance, but then told Devau they had other leads and began to search elsewhere.

They searched a home off Southdale Avenue in Boise.

The details of their findings have not been released.

The home is just two miles from where Robert’s body was found in the canal.

Devau believes if the body was severely decomposed, it would have been in the water a long time.

"The body would have been underwater for most of the time," Devau said.

Devau also said a body in the canal would not get tangled or stuck in any debris.

Unnoticed, it could have just kept on floating downstream.

http://www.2news.tv/news/52589612.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Northern Rose on August 06, 2009, 01:27:58 PM
Police say Robert Manwill was Murdered

Posted: Aug 5, 2009 10:07 PM MDT

Boise, Idaho -- Police have now determined that 8-year-old Robert Manwill was murdered.

They made the announcement Wednesday, Aug. 5, during a press conference.

Manwill went missing on Friday, July 24. His body was found Monday, Aug. 3, in the New York Canal in Kuna. Now with a positive identification, deputy chief Jim Kerns says things are changing very fast.

"This is now a criminal investigation," said Kerns.

The reason -- Kerns says there are clear signs the boy was murdered.

"Preliminary results for the autopsy give us reason to believe that 8-year-old Robert Manwill's death was not an accident," Kerns said.

It may not be too long before a suspect is in custody, considering police seem to have a good bead on either who did or did not kill Manwill.

"There remains no evidence that Robert was abducted by a stranger," said Kerns.

Clearly, it's a statement that indicates there are signs of some sort that the boy was murdered by someone he knew -- an acquaintance, a friend, or even a family member.

And according to Kerns, "Justice will not be denied for Robert Manwill."

http://www.fox12idaho.com/Global/story.asp?S=10856556&nav=menu439_4

Sorry if this has been posted before but this is so very sad that no one had been looking after Little Man's safety and best interests when there was ample opportunity based on bio mom and B/f's previous interaction with children.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 02:07:31 PM
Does anyone know if Robert's father was aware of his exwifes' convicion for fracturing the skull of her baby and that her bf was still in the home with her?  I'm having a hard time understanding why he fought so hard to get Robert but didn't keep him away from her with all her criminal circumstances.

I am sure he was aware and fought hard. The judge awarded unsupervised visitation with mom despite it. Robert's dad would have been violating a court order, had he not let Robert visit his mom.

Sadly, it happens all the time. In cases where mom's get custody and try to keep their children away from their abusive husbands and in this case where a dad tried to keep his son away from his abusive mother. The system that is in place to protect our children often is the one that puts them back in situations where they are at risk. All in the spirit of "reuniting the family". Best interest of the child, my ass.

Sorry for the language but I am angry.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 02:17:12 PM
Morning Everyone (if anyone is up yet, that is!) -

Excerpts from Pink's post #1218 in the wee morning hours today, which scream to me:

..."An affidavit that Charles Manwill filed at the time to get temporary custody of Robert states that Jenkins told him she "was being physically abused by her ex-boyfriend (the apparent father of the unborn child)."

..."He added that the hospital "has kept the admission of mother Melissa, and her room number, secret because mother Melissa is concerned that the ex-boyfriend may storm into the hospital and mother Melissa's room and cause extreme trouble."

..."Ehrlick Jr. also has been barred from being around Jenkins' daughter, not from anything he did, but because the father, Raymond Ames, said he didn't like him or want him around the toddler. The girl lived with Melissa Jenkins until Ames got custody last year."

http://www.bradenton.com/news/breaking_news/story/1621456.html

Wow. The picture is becoming clearer that Ehrlick is a violent, drug-addled low life with a criminal history . . . I wonder if MJ (not Michael Jackson, LOL) did cover for bf in the injury of her other baby? If she is a 'battered wife' who is too afraid to try to leave her abuser? Surely makes one wonder, doesn't it?

Tams, I said this a few pages back, and Leroy and I were sharing a brain at the time.  We wondered the same thing.

He made her take the wrap because of his convictions already and that she would get a "lesser" sentence than he would. She being scared and because she "loved" him, covered for him. She has been absent from the press conferences and from any interviews but perhaps LE did that for her protection and to help keep the focus on Robert. It does make your wonder.

Thank you Leroy, Ms. Nut. and NorthernRose and all for the updates. :)


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 02:28:11 PM
Morning Everyone (if anyone is up yet, that is!) -

Excerpts from Pink's post #1218 in the wee morning hours today, which scream to me:

..."An affidavit that Charles Manwill filed at the time to get temporary custody of Robert states that Jenkins told him she "was being physically abused by her ex-boyfriend (the apparent father of the unborn child)."

..."He added that the hospital "has kept the admission of mother Melissa, and her room number, secret because mother Melissa is concerned that the ex-boyfriend may storm into the hospital and mother Melissa's room and cause extreme trouble."

..."Ehrlick Jr. also has been barred from being around Jenkins' daughter, not from anything he did, but because the father, Raymond Ames, said he didn't like him or want him around the toddler. The girl lived with Melissa Jenkins until Ames got custody last year."

http://www.bradenton.com/news/breaking_news/story/1621456.html

Wow. The picture is becoming clearer that Ehrlick is a violent, drug-addled low life with a criminal history . . . I wonder if MJ (not Michael Jackson, LOL) did cover for bf in the injury of her other baby? If she is a 'battered wife' who is too afraid to try to leave her abuser? Surely makes one wonder, doesn't it?


And I hope someone has told Mr. Boyfriend that an insanity defense is only knowing right from wrong and concealment of the remains indicates knowing what was done was totally wrong. 

I try VERY hard not to ever say anything about any family unless an arrest is made.  It's what works best for me because of all the lies told about Natalee Holloway's mother but this one may require I sit on my hands to keep from speculating.

But how many times do we have to see this kind of thing before these women wake up to the danger of leaving their children with wackos and sociopaths and even know sex offenders?

Afternoon Anna,

It always boggles my mind the mindset a woman has when she chooses a man (the company of one, having him in her and her child's life) over a the safety of her child/children.

Each time I read a story like that, I just want to grab the woman, shake the stuffing out of her and ask her what the h@ll was she thinking?

They are desperate for love, attention, low in self-esteem and often come from abusive homes their selves but they do all have free will.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 02:39:46 PM
What we need to do is have all middle school children take "life skills" classes. Make them be year long. Mandatory for all. Educated them about internet safety. Educate them about birth control. Educate them on domestic abuse and violence, how to get yourself out of a bad situation, how to manage anger, how to properly parent your child, how your children should always come first. If we empower more of these young people and educate them, perhaps we can stop some of this.

Clearly they are not learning this information from home, it needs to be taught in school.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 02:54:39 PM
Remember "Grandpops" statement that he was with son David all day? What if David was the one that had borrowed Wallis's truck on Wednesday? Just so he'd have transportation to kick around in, while he knew his friend was gone.

Danny called him on Friday when something bad happened to Robert and said bro you gotta help me...


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Tina Bee on August 06, 2009, 03:01:57 PM
Nancy has yet to cover Robert's case in depth, but it the body has been confirmed as Robert's so :smt088

Right now NG is covering a case of an exhausted mother dealing with an unruly child inside of a store. If every single moment of my life was recorded by cameras I'd be in jail myself for some of things I've done.

I'm not a parent, but children are exhausting. I've had people cut their eyes at me when I wouldn't quiet one of my nieces inside of a store (that was already noisy). Sometimes you just give up, like this mother did. I don't think she should've been arrested.

That's just my opinion. I don't condone child abuse, but IMO this wasn't child abuse. Not even close.

There are alternatives to dragging a child along on the floor with a leash.
Couldn't the Mother has used a shopping cart to put the little boy in?


In the mom's defense the boy was in a monkey backpack leash and she was at a Verizon Wireless store so I don't think there were carts around.

I just hate when NG prosecutes someone who might just be having a bad day. Now when she does it to Tot Mama it's understandable.

It annoys me to no end when Nancy acts like she's super mom.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 03:18:09 PM
The Manwill family will talk live with the media @ 6 PM MDT
http://www.ktvb.com will carry it live.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Tina Bee on August 06, 2009, 03:20:59 PM
Interesting article. Thought I'd add it to the mix.

EHRLICH'S FATHER: MY SON ACCUSED ME

A man Robert called "Grandpa" said Friday that he has been questioned repeatedly by investigators after his older son accused him of taking Robert and told investigators the same thing.

Daniel Ehrlick Sr., a former Marine who served in Vietnam, said he thought he saw Robert on the day he was reported missing when he stopped by Ehrlick Jr.'s apartment to drop off money to help pay bills.

"(Ehrlick Jr.) told me that Robert was down in the back. When I came to the door, I don't know if it was then that I spotted it, or I spotted it before, but I spotted another boy that looked just like Robert with a white T-shirt on," Ehrlick Sr. said.

Investigators have said Robert was wearing a blue Superman T-shirt at the time of his disappearance.

"I haven't talked to him since he accused me Sunday. I haven't talked to him," Ehrlick Sr. said. "I don't know if (Jenkins and Ehrlick Jr. have) been real truthful with me."

David Ehrlick, Ehrlick Sr.'s youngest son, said he was with his father the entire day on Friday.

Ehrlick Sr. said he used to pick up Robert at his father's house in New Plymouth and bring him to Boise. He teared up as he discussed the missing child while smoking a cigarette in his front yard.

Ehrlick Sr. and his youngest son, David, told a story of a boy that was constantly in trouble with his mother for the pettiest of infractions. David Ehrlick said that Robert was not allowed to go outside and play during a recent birthday party.

"It was scary around her with her children. Robert would get in trouble for everything. It didn't matter if it was asking a question, he'd get grounded. He'd have to sit on his hands," said David Ehrlick. "He's just a little boy."

Said Ehrlick Sr.: "That's why I was afraid to even say, 'Robert, let's go fishing.'"

They said that they told investigators their concern when Jenkins was investigated for injuring her infant in October 2008.

Ehrlick Sr. praised the volunteers and investigators.

"People have been awesome. I just wish there was something I could do for all the people involved," he said. "In my opinion, the Boise police are doing a good job."




http://www.idahostatesman.com/273/story/852598.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 06, 2009, 03:49:04 PM
Remember "Grandpops" statement that he was with son David all day? What if David was the one that had borrowed Wallis's truck on Wednesday? Just so he'd have transportation to kick around in, while he knew his friend was gone.

Danny called him on Friday when something bad happened to Robert and said bro you gotta help me...

Ok, now you've got me thinking about David...afterall, he is closer to Wallis than Danny right?  So, yea, he knows his buddy is out of town and knows he could get in the house and take the keys to use the SUV.  Maybe he saw Robert walking down the street (IF the going to the party story is true) and picked him up along the way.  Robert would probably go with him since he knows him.  Maybe *something bad happened* in the SUV and/or backyard of Wallis at the hands of David and not Danny??

Far fetched I'm sure....and I guess it would depend on what time David & "grandpops" were together till.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 04:08:05 PM
Remember "Grandpops" statement that he was with son David all day? What if David was the one that had borrowed Wallis's truck on Wednesday? Just so he'd have transportation to kick around in, while he knew his friend was gone.

Danny called him on Friday when something bad happened to Robert and said bro you gotta help me...

Ok, now you've got me thinking about David...afterall, he is closer to Wallis than Danny right?  So, yea, he knows his buddy is out of town and knows he could get in the house and take the keys to use the SUV.  Maybe he saw Robert walking down the street (IF the going to the party story is true) and picked him up along the way.  Robert would probably go with him since he knows him.  Maybe *something bad happened* in the SUV and/or backyard of Wallis at the hands of David and not Danny??

Far fetched I'm sure....and I guess it would depend on what time David & "grandpops" were together till.

I am think Danny (BF) knew he couldn't be seen leaving because what if mom came home early, so he called his brother David to come help get rid of the body. David had the truck as he "borrowed it" Wed, came and picked up Robert's body. Went to Wallis's house, thinking perhaps that would be good place to put it. He calls Danny and says this isn't going to work, what if a dog digs him up or something so they come up with the plan to stick him in the canal.  David either dumped him or they met up and dumped him during the time everyone was "out looking" for him before the cops were called at 10:11.

David said I was with my dad all day. Dad is covering for both of them.

I dunno, I just think David would have known more where the keys were kept and that his friend was out of town. He might have played a role.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 04:12:06 PM
The Manwill family will talk live with the media @ 6 PM MDT
http://www.ktvb.com will carry it live.

BUMPING to the next page.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 06, 2009, 04:18:21 PM
The Manwill family will talk live with the media @ 6 PM MDT
http://www.ktvb.com will carry it live.

BUMPING to the next page.

Thank you Pink. 

So that will be 8pm EST.  I'm going to have to put in on a Post-It so I dont forget!  (I love Post-Its and really dont think I could live without them...LOL)


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 04:22:14 PM
The Manwill family will talk live with the media @ 6 PM MDT
http://www.ktvb.com will carry it live.

BUMPING to the next page.

Thank you Pink. 

So that will be 8pm EST.  I'm going to have to put in on a Post-It so I dont forget!  (I love Post-Its and really dont think I could live without them...LOL)

I have a post it stuck to my forehead as I type.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 06, 2009, 05:12:27 PM
Remember "Grandpops" statement that he was with son David all day? What if David was the one that had borrowed Wallis's truck on Wednesday? Just so he'd have transportation to kick around in, while he knew his friend was gone.

Danny called him on Friday when something bad happened to Robert and said bro you gotta help me...

Ok, now you've got me thinking about David...afterall, he is closer to Wallis than Danny right?  So, yea, he knows his buddy is out of town and knows he could get in the house and take the keys to use the SUV.  Maybe he saw Robert walking down the street (IF the going to the party story is true) and picked him up along the way.  Robert would probably go with him since he knows him.  Maybe *something bad happened* in the SUV and/or backyard of Wallis at the hands of David and not Danny??

Far fetched I'm sure....and I guess it would depend on what time David & "grandpops" were together till.

I am think Danny (BF) knew he couldn't be seen leaving because what if mom came home early, so he called his brother David to come help get rid of the body. David had the truck as he "borrowed it" Wed, came and picked up Robert's body. Went to Wallis's house, thinking perhaps that would be good place to put it. He calls Danny and says this isn't going to work, what if a dog digs him up or something so they come up with the plan to stick him in the canal.  David either dumped him or they met up and dumped him during the time everyone was "out looking" for him before the cops were called at 10:11.

David said I was with my dad all day. Dad is covering for both of them.

I dunno, I just think David would have known more where the keys were kept and that his friend was out of town. He might have played a role.
That really makes a lot of sense Pink, that could be a real good possibility.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 05:20:09 PM
Remember "Grandpops" statement that he was with son David all day? What if David was the one that had borrowed Wallis's truck on Wednesday? Just so he'd have transportation to kick around in, while he knew his friend was gone.

Danny called him on Friday when something bad happened to Robert and said bro you gotta help me...

Ok, now you've got me thinking about David...afterall, he is closer to Wallis than Danny right?  So, yea, he knows his buddy is out of town and knows he could get in the house and take the keys to use the SUV.  Maybe he saw Robert walking down the street (IF the going to the party story is true) and picked him up along the way.  Robert would probably go with him since he knows him.  Maybe *something bad happened* in the SUV and/or backyard of Wallis at the hands of David and not Danny??

Far fetched I'm sure....and I guess it would depend on what time David & "grandpops" were together till.

I am think Danny (BF) knew he couldn't be seen leaving because what if mom came home early, so he called his brother David to come help get rid of the body. David had the truck as he "borrowed it" Wed, came and picked up Robert's body. Went to Wallis's house, thinking perhaps that would be good place to put it. He calls Danny and says this isn't going to work, what if a dog digs him up or something so they come up with the plan to stick him in the canal.  David either dumped him or they met up and dumped him during the time everyone was "out looking" for him before the cops were called at 10:11.

David said I was with my dad all day. Dad is covering for both of them.

I dunno, I just think David would have known more where the keys were kept and that his friend was out of town. He might have played a role.
That really makes a lot of sense Pink, that could be a real good possibility.

Or David took him to Wallis's house to prepare him to be placed into the canal. Used some car parts or chains or something there to weigh him down. Which would explain the dog hitting on the SUV and in the backyard.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 05:22:09 PM
http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/857955.html
Manwill family to speak to media; memorial planned
Idaho Statesman - Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/06/09

A memorial service Robert Manwill, the 8-year-old boy who went missing July 24 and whose body was found Monday in a canal near Kuna, will begin at 2 p.m. Sunday at Cloverdale Funeral Home, 1200 North Cloverdale Road, between Fairview Avenue and Franklin Road. The public is invited.

A spokesman for the funeral home said they are preparing for possibly hundreds of members of the community to attend the service.

The family plans to brief the media at 6 p.m. today.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 06, 2009, 05:27:50 PM
http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/857955.html
Manwill family to speak to media; memorial planned
Idaho Statesman - Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/06/09

A memorial service Robert Manwill, the 8-year-old boy who went missing July 24 and whose body was found Monday in a canal near Kuna, will begin at 2 p.m. Sunday at Cloverdale Funeral Home, 1200 North Cloverdale Road, between Fairview Avenue and Franklin Road. The public is invited.

A spokesman for the funeral home said they are preparing for possibly hundreds of members of the community to attend the service.

The family plans to brief the media at 6 p.m. today.
Thanks, that is very thoughtful of the family to allow the public, the public sure did come together to search for little Robert.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on August 06, 2009, 05:57:11 PM
http://www.momlogic.com/2009/08/enough_is_enough_we_must_protect_kids_now_robert_manwill.php

Enough is Enough! We Must Protect Kids Now
Thursday, August 6, 2009


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Northern Rose on August 06, 2009, 05:59:48 PM
Timeline of events from the Robert Manwill investigation
Statesman staff - Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/06/09

Friday, July 24:

- 7 to 7:30 p.m. Kimberlly Davidson, a 7-year-old girl who lives in Oak Park Village, says she saw Robert at a playground.

- 10:11 p.m. Robert is reported missing. Police man checkpoint on Vista Avenue to talk to motorists.

Saturday, July 25: The FBI joins the search effort. Search dogs scour Oak Park grounds. Police issue a description of Robert at about 6 a.m. to see if anyone has seen him.

Sunday, July 26: After divers search a pond at Oak Park Village, officials begin draining the pond. Volunteers join the search.

Monday, July 27: An Idaho National Guard helicopter conducts an aerial search, while police and about 100 volunteers search the public areas near Oak Park Village, the banks of the New York Canal, railroad tracks, streets and shopping centers. Robert's family - including his mother, Melissa Jenkins, and her boyfriend, Daniel Ehrlick Jr., attend a press conference calling for help.

Tuesday, July 28: Police and FBI continue a house-to-house search and interview more than 100 registered sex offenders who live within a 2-mile radius. More than 120 volunteers coordinated by Boise police and Idaho Mountain Search & Rescue continue to search near the apartment.

Wednesday, July 29:

- Volunteers and police finish grid search. Boise police announce they are asking for as many as 1,000 volunteers to search July 31.

- A Statesman report reveals that Jenkins is on probation for fracturing the skull of Robert's infant half brother and that Ehrlick Jr. has been convicted of burglary, battery and possession of drug paraphernalia, and is banned by the courts from being alone with Robert's half sister.

Thursday, July 30

- 8:15 p.m. A forensics team searches the apartment where Robert was staying with his mother and Ehrlick Jr. They remove items and tow a vehicle. Police bring in search dogs to sniff around the complex grounds.

Friday, July 31 :

- 9 a.m. The first wave of about 2,300 volunteers joins police in a massive search for Robert.

- Noon Police report that they have evidence indicating Robert may have been injured or could be a "victim of a tragic event."

- 3:15 p.m. An Ada County sheriff's deputy guards a portion of the Hidden Hollow Landfill, right, and makes sure nothing is disturbed from Saturday morning's trash run.

- 5:53 p.m. Ada County sheriff's investigators prepare to search a house and dig up its backyard on the 6600 block of Southdale Avenue, near Five Mile Road. Resident Evan Wallis said he knows Robert's family but doesn't know why police are searching his house. He tells police someone stole his Chevy Suburban July 22.

- Saint Alphonsus Regional Medical Center confirms that Ehrlick Jr. had been admitted and released from the hospital, but wouldn't say when or for what he was treated.

Saturday, Aug. 1: A makeshift tribute to Robert is created on a sidewalk on Shoshone Street, near Jenkins' apartment.

Monday, Aug. 3: 1:28 p.m. A nearby homeowner and a road crew member call police after seeing a body in the New York Canal near Cloverdale Road in southern Ada County. A sheriff's deputy jumps in and pulls the body out. In contrast with previous press updates, Robert's family does not attend Monday's conference.

Tuesday, Aug. 4

- 9 a.m. A coroner's pathologist begins an autopsy on the body found in the canal.

- 4 p.m. Police report that the Ada County coroner had "tentatively" identified the body as Robert.

- Wednesday, Aug. 5

- 4:22 p.m. The coroner's office says dental records confirm that it was Robert in the canal.

- 6 p.m. Boise police say the autopsy showed Robert's death was "not an accident" and say they are beginning a homicide investigation.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/robertmanwill/story/857386.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 06:43:07 PM
Neighbors keep Robert's memorial safe from storm
Story Created: Aug 6, 2009 at 4:20 PM MDT
Story Updated: Aug 6, 2009 at 4:34 PM MDT
By Scott Logan

(http://media.2news.tv/images/090806_robert_rain1.jpg)

BOISE -- Gina Guzzetta-Dalrymple spent the night in a tent on Shoshone Street, keeping an eye on Robert Manwill's stuffed animal shrine near his mother's apartment in Oak Park Village.

And with other neighbors, she covered the sidewalk memorial with tarps, protecting it from the storm.

"Because if it got all demolished, the Ronald McDonald house couldn't use the stuffed animals," she said. "That's where they're going, and if they got all moldy and demolished, they have to be thrown away."

Dark clouds soon followed the news Wednesday that police are now calling 8-year-old Robert Manwill, missing since July 24, the victim of a homicide.

His body was found in the New York Canal near Kuna Monday. The remains were positively identified Wednesday.

"Justice will not be denied for Robert," said Deputy Chief Jim Kerns with the Boise Police Department.

While police now conduct a criminal investigation, the community continued with preparations for a public memorial for Robert Friday evening at 8 p.m.

"It makes me sad, but it's not surprising," said Gina of Robert's murder. "It didn't take a rocket scientist to see that something went awry."http://www.2news.tv/news/local/52611792.html

Bless their hearts.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 06:45:45 PM
went awry."


Lost the end of that in the cut and paste.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 08:26:49 PM
Manwill family thanks community, police, and invites everyone to memorials
Idaho Statesman - Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/06/09

Standing with Robert Manwill's mother, Melissa Jankins, and his father, Charles Manwill, Robert's aunt Trish Burrill thanked Treasure Valley police, the FBI and other investigators, and most of all the thousands of people who helped try to find the 8-year-old boy.

"We want to thank our community family for everything they have done," she said.

She invited the public to join the family at a candlelight vigil Friday night on Shoshone Street near the Oak Park Village apartments from which Robert was last seen.

She said Robert would be honored at Meridian Speedway Saturday and said his Sunday memorial service would be open to the public.

For people who wanted to learn more about the boy, the family created a website: http://www.myspace.com/meetrobertmanwill

The memorial service will begin at 2 p.m. Sunday at Cloverdale Funeral Home, 1200 North Cloverdale Road, between Fairview Avenue and Franklin Road.

A spokesman for the funeral home said they are preparing for possibly hundreds of members of the community to attend the service.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/857955.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 08:34:51 PM
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/27/l_890dd9667145452fbfe85309415d3a84.jpg)

(http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/40/l_4275ae8d21714c51a627c6f792846306.jpg)

What a cutie!



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: MuffyBee on August 06, 2009, 08:37:05 PM
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/27/l_890dd9667145452fbfe85309415d3a84.jpg)

(http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/40/l_4275ae8d21714c51a627c6f792846306.jpg)

What a cutie!



Thank you for the pics, pink angel.  It just breaks my heart to know he's gone.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 08:47:38 PM
Video of the family's press conference today.
http://www.ktvb.com/video/index.html?nvid=386911


Manwill's mother present as family thanks community

06:32 PM MDT on Thursday, August 6, 2009

KTVB.COM

Courtesy Manwill smile

BOISE - About ten members of Robert Manwill’s family appeared before the media cameras one more time Thursday evening, and thanked the community for the outpouring of support in the effort to find Manwill.

The eight-year-old boy was listed as missing for more than ten days before he was found in the New York Canal near Kuna Monday afternoon.

Grieving family thanks public

“Now that Robert is home, we are standing in front of you today,” family spokesperson Trish Burrill said. “We want to thank our community family for everything they have done for our family and Robert.”

Burrill was surrounded at the podium by a number of members of his family, including his mother Melissa Lee Jenkins – who has not been seen in front of the cameras for more than a week.

There are still no suspects or persons of interest in the case, but Wednesday, Boise Police Deputy Chief Jim Kerns said the death was not an accident, and that his department would work to bring justice for the boy.

“We know Robert is in your hearts, and you need closure just as you do,” Burrill said.

Two events will be held in an effort to bring that closure to the community. First, a vigil will be held Friday night near where Manwill was reported missing, at Cherry Lane and Shoshone St. in Boise. The family will be in attendance, Burrill said.

Saturday, a moment of silence and prayer will be held at Meridian Speedway, as a “Race for Robert is held.

The boy will be laid to rest Sunday at 2pm at the Cloverdale Funeral Home. The public is invited to the event.

“With Robert being home now, you may all now turn your ribbons right side up to show he has been found,” Burrill said.

Community member had been asked to wear green ribbons while the search for the 8-year-old boy continued.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug0609-manwill_family.b56baa45.html



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 06, 2009, 08:58:51 PM
Thank-you for the updates  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 09:17:48 PM
Thank-you for the updates  ::MonkeyAngel::

Evening no rose. :)
Not a problem. Happy to do it. I tried to watch it live but my frankinputer wanted no part of it. It gets slower and slower each day. I fear it's demise.

MuffyBee,
It breaks my heart too. Only evil people can harm children.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 06, 2009, 09:31:44 PM
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/27/l_890dd9667145452fbfe85309415d3a84.jpg)

(http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/40/l_4275ae8d21714c51a627c6f792846306.jpg)

What a cutie!


I just want to hug and squeeze him. He is so adorable. RIP Little Man, RIP.

JSM  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 09:44:57 PM
(http://i27.tinypic.com/1dpo5.jpg)

Image from the presser. Such pain in these faces. So sad.
Melissa is the stripped shirt.

 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

Right to left.
Older brother Ken
Kevin - Uncle (Charles Brother)
Charles - Dad
Afton - Step-mom
Melissa - Mom
Speaking - Aunt Trish (Mom's sister)


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 06, 2009, 09:49:35 PM
(http://i27.tinypic.com/1dpo5.jpg)

Image from the presser. Such pain in these faces. So sad.
Melissa is the stripped shirt.

 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

Right to left.
Older brother Ken
Kevin - Uncle (Charles Brother)
Charles - Dad
Afton - Step-mom
Melissa - Mom
Speaking - Aunt Trish (Mom's sister)

Pink I am wrong or does it look like Afton is giving Melissa the evil eye?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 06, 2009, 09:55:12 PM
I don't know JSM. It's hard to tell from a still photo. I wish I could watch the video I posted on the previous page. Maybe you can watch and tell more.

http://www.cloverdalefuneralhome.com/obit-service-schedule.jsp?site=0502&id=48023

Robert's Obituary Page at Cloverdale Funeral Home.
There is a guestbook you can sign there and leave a message for litte man's family.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 07, 2009, 09:36:37 AM
I don't know JSM. It's hard to tell from a still photo. I wish I could watch the video I posted on the previous page. Maybe you can watch and tell more.

http://www.cloverdalefuneralhome.com/obit-service-schedule.jsp?site=0502&id=48023

Robert's Obituary Page at Cloverdale Funeral Home.
There is a guestbook you can sign there and leave a message for litte man's family.
I couldn't tell if it was an evil eye. Thanks for the link I will sign the book. JSM


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cookie on August 07, 2009, 09:51:17 AM
Northern rose...thank you for that timeline...

where is the little girl in all of this? does this mother have custody of her and if so, how does she keep the bf away from her?  who is her father? sorry if this has been asked/answered on here...it is hard keeping up at times...
thanks to all for what you do and for providing articles on these little innocents...


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: klaasend on August 07, 2009, 09:54:17 AM
I would say they are both looking at the same person in the crowd.  I imagine it is a horrible position to be in.  Where is Melissa's boyfriend?

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/afton.jpg)


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: klaasend on August 07, 2009, 09:54:58 AM
Northern rose...thank you for that timeline...

where is the little girl in all of this? does this mother have custody of her and if so, how does she keep the bf away from her?  who is her father? sorry if this has been asked/answered on here...it is hard keeping up at times...
thanks to all for what you do and for providing articles on these little innocents...

I believe the baby is with the state, she does not have custody.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 07, 2009, 09:56:02 AM
Because the mom was at the press conference, does anyone else think she really may have had nothing to do with Robert's death, and the boyfriend did all of this on his own?  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cookie on August 07, 2009, 10:06:59 AM
thanks Klaas..


Rosie....I am thinking that it was the bf ....but is she covering for him? I suspect that the LE know already and are just putting their case together nice and tight before doing the arrest...
it was said on one of the talk show that the BF entering in and out of the psych facility, that he may be trying to build a defense of mental illness...could be...


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 07, 2009, 10:12:57 AM
thanks Klaas..


Rosie....I am thinking that it was the bf ....but is she covering for him? I suspect that the LE know already and are just putting their case together nice and tight before doing the arrest...
it was said on one of the talk show that the BF entering in and out of the psych facility, that he may be trying to build a defense of mental illness...could be...
I read that also, but I also was reading some info from a native Idahoian that it is almost impossible in the state for a insanity defense.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 07, 2009, 10:17:30 AM
The family has set up a website for the community to learn more about Robert. On his Myspace page they wrote: "Robert loved to meet new people and make new friends. He was so outgoing that we had to make new rules just for him. One of his rules was that he had to ask before he hugged someone. He loved life and people so much that he would run up to strangers and give them hugs."

--snipped--

http://www.2news.tv/news/local/52611792.html

He sounds like he such a sweet boy   ::MonkeyWaa:: 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 07, 2009, 10:23:03 AM
Northern rose...thank you for that timeline...

where is the little girl in all of this? does this mother have custody of her and if so, how does she keep the bf away from her?  who is her father? sorry if this has been asked/answered on here...it is hard keeping up at times...
thanks to all for what you do and for providing articles on these little innocents...

I believe the baby is with the state, she does not have custody.

Jenkins has at least three children by three fathers. They are: Robert, 8, son of Charles Manwill; RayLynn Scott Ames, 2, daughter of Russell Ames; and Aidan James Ehrlick, 1, son of Daniel Ehrlick Jr. She was married to one of the men, Manwill. Two of the three children, Robert and RayLynn, live with their fathers.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/853332.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cookie on August 07, 2009, 10:23:53 AM
yes he does Leroy..
and also his teachers said that he was a really sweet kid..


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: sunshine12 on August 07, 2009, 10:24:40 AM
Because the mom was at the press conference, does anyone else think she really may have had nothing to do with Robert's death, and the boyfriend did all of this on his own?  ::MonkeyConfused::

i was just thinking that (we think a lit nrcg!)...i believe the mother is not directly involved as far as the actual murder. but i think we could see some charges against her before all of this is said and done.  i do believe the mother knows what happened or has a pretty good idea of what happened.

i have been trying hard to apply ockham's razor to this case and make my theory as to what happened to robert as simple as possible, but it's been hard.  i personally think that the bf killed robert shortly after he arrived home from playing on the swings around 7 30 pm.  I do not believe this was premeditated. I think something happened and the bf snapped.  i think once the bf realized what he did, he panicked and called his brother, who had that man's suv.  he told his brother he needed him to come help him move roberts body.  during the time between when he first called his brother and his brother arrived, i believe the bf tried to clean up the blood as much as he could.  i think they then thought it would be a good idea to bury robert in the backyard of the man who's suv it was, and began to attempt to bury him there but either a)realized it would take too long and thought he would be found by the home owner so they decided to take him to the canal instead and put something on him to weigh him down, or b) left him in the backyard for several hours or days and then moved him to the canal.  i strongly believe robert was in that backyard because there is no other reason for the dogs to hit on that area so heavily. 

i think when the mother got home from work, she realized something was wrong.  i think the boyfriend came home after the mother got in from work and told her he was out looking for robert.  i believe this is when he told her the story about the alleged birthday party.  i believe they then reported him missing.  i think the mother may have initially bought the bf's story about the birthday party but then realized it couldn't be possible...

another possibility is that the mother did know what happened and was covering up for the boyfriend, for example, if she saw blood and realized something went wrong and tried to help him clean it. or maybe he confessed to her and it was her idea to have them move the body so it looked like a drowning or something if he was ever found. i dont know, my mind changes everyday on what the mother's involvement is, but the thing im almost certain of is that the bf is the killer...

saying prayers for robert and praying for swift justice  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 07, 2009, 10:26:21 AM
FAMILY SAYS THANKS

On Thursday, the parents and extended family of Robert Manwill singled out for appreciation police officers, the people who found the 8-year-old's body and the thousands who helped in the search. "We want to thank our community family for everything they have done for our family and for Robert," said Trish Burrill, Robert's aunt.

PUBLIC SERVICES SET

- Candlelight vigil, 8 p.m. Friday, near the corner of Shoshone Street and Cherry Lane, Boise.

- Racing dedicated to Robert, Meridian Speedway, Saturday, 335 S. Main St. in Meridian. Gates open at 4 p.m. and racing begins at 6:30 p.m.

- Funeral services, 2 p.m. Sunday, Cloverdale Funeral Home, 1200 N. Cloverdale Road, Boise.

NATION'S EYES ON BOISE

The glare of the national media shined on Boise during the week-and-a-half search for Robert, with shows such as CNN's "Nancy Grace" discussing the case nightly. The response? One e-mailer from Indiana wrote the Boise Convention and Visitors Bureau after the 2,300-volunteer search to commend the community for its response.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/858539.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cookie on August 07, 2009, 10:27:21 AM
Northern rose...thank you for that timeline...

where is the little girl in all of this? does this mother have custody of her and if so, how does she keep the bf away from her?  who is her father? sorry if this has been asked/answered on here...it is hard keeping up at times...
thanks to all for what you do and for providing articles on these little innocents...

I believe the baby is with the state, she does not have custody.

Jenkins has at least three children by three fathers. They are: Robert, 8, son of Charles Manwill; RayLynn Scott Ames, 2, daughter of Russell Ames; and Aidan James Ehrlick, 1, son of Daniel Ehrlick Jr. She was married to one of the men, Manwill. Two of the three children, Robert and RayLynn, live with their fathers.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/853332.html

thanks for the info Pinky! I bet Russell Ames is counting his blessings that he has custody of his little daughter...
why do people who obviously can not cope with being a parent keep having children? this mom has 2 of her children that did not live with her and a 3rd child that she injured severely....something is very very wrong with this mother ...jmo....


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 07, 2009, 10:28:48 AM
sunshine12 yes I think we are on the same page.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 07, 2009, 10:31:51 AM
sunshine, if you have been following the thread...what you have laid out, is the same theory I have had basically. I believe mom believed what the boyfriend told her at first and came to realize later that he was full of it. That he (the BF) called his brother in a panic, who had already been using the "borrowed" truck and his brother helped him dispose of Robert.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 07, 2009, 10:33:24 AM
I would say they are both looking at the same person in the crowd.  I imagine it is a horrible position to be in.  Where is Melissa's boyfriend?

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/afton.jpg)

thank you for the close up, klaas. much better. I would say they are looking in the crowd too. Melissa's boyfriend is in the hospital still according to the last couple articles.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cookie on August 07, 2009, 10:38:21 AM
sunshine, if you have been following the thread...what you have laid out, is the same theory I have had basically. I believe mom believed what the boyfriend told her at first and came to realize later that he was full of it. That he (the BF) called his brother in a panic, who had already been using the "borrowed" truck and his brother helped him dispose of Robert.

my thoughts too.

also, hadn't Robert only been with his mother for a very short time? how would he have already been invited to a birthday party when he wouldn't have known anyone? and Robert did not seem like the type of child who would get mad about not being allowed to go to the party and leave the house on his own because he was mad...and the bf would not have let him be so defiant to him imo....he would have "taught him a lesson" if Robert had smarted off to him...jmo...


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 07, 2009, 10:39:39 AM
According to the site, Robert was a happy boy who loved to give hugs and dance to music on his MP3 player. Robert loved movies, especially comedies and slapstick humor. He loved cartoons, Transformers, Garfield and Harry Potter books. He thrived on reading, the Web site says, and was always at 150 to 200 percent of his reading goal at his school, New Plymouth Elementary.

"Robert's favorite thing to do was laugh," according to the site, which features numerous family photos of Robert enjoying birthday parties, Easter and Halloween ... Robert loved to meet new people and make new friends ... He loved life and people so much that he would run up to strangers and give them hugs. Although Robert did have a temper, most of the time he was the most happy and loving person that one will ever meet."
http://www.idahopress.com/sports/?2009-08-07-Family-offers-thanks

Little man sounds like a wonderful little boy any parent would be proud of. It's so sad and so wrong that this little boy lost his life at age 8.




Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 07, 2009, 10:39:50 AM
sunshine, if you have been following the thread...what you have laid out, is the same theory I have had basically. I believe mom believed what the boyfriend told her at first and came to realize later that he was full of it. That he (the BF) called his brother in a panic, who had already been using the "borrowed" truck and his brother helped him dispose of Robert.
Yes, I believe several of us are thinking along the same lines. And daddy is enabling I feel.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 07, 2009, 10:46:06 AM
sunshine, if you have been following the thread...what you have laid out, is the same theory I have had basically. I believe mom believed what the boyfriend told her at first and came to realize later that he was full of it. That he (the BF) called his brother in a panic, who had already been using the "borrowed" truck and his brother helped him dispose of Robert.

my thoughts too.

also, hadn't Robert only been with his mother for a very short time? how would he have already been invited to a birthday party when he wouldn't have known anyone? and Robert did not seem like the type of child who would get mad about not being allowed to go to the party and leave the house on his own because he was mad...and the bf would not have let him be so defiant to him imo....he would have "taught him a lesson" if Robert had smarted off to him...jmo...

Police initially believed the boy may have gone to an unknown friend's house for a party, but that has since been ruled out as a possibility.
http://www.2news.tv/news/local/51696977.html

cookie, to me that says the "party story" was a bunch of BS given to the police by the boyfriend and after they checked the story out, they found out there was NO party. The "party story" was also fed to the mom, who since she at work, also believed it at first.

I know Robert was there for the summer, when he got to moms or how long he had been there, I don't know.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 07, 2009, 10:46:54 AM
Intersting comment from Idaho Statesman....

Concernedmother85 wrote on August, 7 8:13 AM:
From an insider, let me tell you this. The little girl who said she was playing with Robert around 7:30 is the same little girl who said confirmed Ehlichs story of the non-existent birthday party. No adult or reliable witness saw Robert that evening. This witness is still a baby. Other children her age had stories of seeing Robert here and there, but the older children did not. Children tell stories, in this instance lots of children said they saw Robert then later admitted they didn't. The spot where Robert was SUPPOSEDLY last seen is a VERY popular spot for childre, yet no one else saw him????? Melissa's whereabouts are being accounted for by this little girl who went along with Daniels first story. All the girls parents can confirm is that the family went swimming at 7:30 and they did not see Robert. An experienced and shrewd detective would poke holes in this. This little girl;s story is NOT RELIABLE!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.idahostatesman.com/robertmanwill/story/857955.html?pageNum=7&&&&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 07, 2009, 10:49:18 AM
sunshine, if you have been following the thread...what you have laid out, is the same theory I have had basically. I believe mom believed what the boyfriend told her at first and came to realize later that he was full of it. That he (the BF) called his brother in a panic, who had already been using the "borrowed" truck and his brother helped him dispose of Robert.
Yes, I believe several of us are thinking along the same lines. And daddy is enabling I feel.

Daddy = grandpop
Yup. He "believes" he saw Robert when he dropped off money, giving credibility to Danny. He also made sure he bad talked to the media about mom's parenting skills, making her look like the bad guy, diverting the attention from his son. He also was David's alibi for Friday as David claimed to be with his father all day. (re:what has been reported in the media)


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 07, 2009, 10:51:13 AM
Robert Grant Manwill

 A memorial service for Robert Manwill, the 8-year-old boy who went missing July 24 and whose body was found Monday in a canal near Kuna, will begin at 2 p.m. Sunday at Cloverdale Funeral Home, 1200 N. Cloverdale Road, between Fairview Avenue and Franklin Road. The public is invited. Robert completed second grade at the 450-student New Plymouth Elementary School and would have been in third grade this fall. Robert spent most of the past year and a half of his life with his dad, Charles Manwill, in New Plymouth, and occasionally visiting his mom, Melissa Jenkins, in Boise. "By the end of second grade, he was a very strong student ... He just made great progress. It was fun to watch him gain skills so quickly," said New Plymouth Principal Carrie Agus. Every day at school, Robert hugged his teachers. He freely embraced his best buddies, including some who felt they were getting too grown up for such unsolicited displays of affection. "He was a sweet, sweet boy, always wanting hugs, and hugging other kids," said Christy Morales, who was Robert's second-grade teacher. He's remembered as a tiny kid, who liked superhero T-shirts and wore too-big brown loafers. He is described as funny, often making silly comments or telling funny stories. Tammy Schlett, a teaching assistant at New Plymouth, tutored Robert and other kids in his class in math every day. "He'd lean his head on you, and say, 'I love you, '" Schlett said. Robert gave her a hug on the way out of the lunchroom every day.

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/idahostatesman/obituary.aspx?n=robert-grant-manwill&pid=131021531


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 07, 2009, 11:07:05 AM
Robert Manwill was murdered

Story Updated: Aug 5, 2009 at 6:18 PM MDT
By Paul Fredericks

Police say it was no accident. And there remains no evidence that indicates Robert Manwill was abducted by a stranger.

The 8-year-old was last seen outside the apartment where his mother lives in Boise on the night of July 24. His body was pulled from the New York Canal - about 14 miles away - on Monday, August 3.

The Ada County Coroner on Wednesday said forensic dental information helped to positively identify the body found in the canal as Robert Manwill.

Speaking at a press briefing on Wednesday evening, Boise Police Chief Deputy Jim Kerns said "Justice will not be denied for Robert." Kerns said the justice system demands investigations like this one be thorough and methodical. He says the police cannot compromise legal procedures with the premature release of details.

Daniel Ehrlick, Jr. is the brother of Robert's Mother, Melissa Jenkins. His father, Daniel Ehrlick, Sr., told CBS 2 that his granddaughter told him that his son is being treated at Intermountain Hospital, a psychiatric care facility in Boise.Police have not named any suspects, and no one is in custody.

http://www.2news.tv/news/local/52555322.html

Is it just me..or do some of these articles confuse the family members?  Isn't Daniel the brother of the BF..not Melissa's brother?



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cookie on August 07, 2009, 11:07:08 AM
Pinky..I thought that I had read that Robert had just arrived at his mother's home only a few days before he went missing...I remember thinking at the time, boy, it didn't take them long to do something to Robert..I didn't buy the story of the birthday party or him leaving on his own at 9-9:30 at night from the very beginning...jmo...


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cookie on August 07, 2009, 11:07:57 AM
Gypsy! I was confused as well when I read that article! glad it wasn't just me!


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 07, 2009, 11:09:48 AM
Robert Manwill was murdered

Story Updated: Aug 5, 2009 at 6:18 PM MDT
By Paul Fredericks

Police say it was no accident. And there remains no evidence that indicates Robert Manwill was abducted by a stranger.

The 8-year-old was last seen outside the apartment where his mother lives in Boise on the night of July 24. His body was pulled from the New York Canal - about 14 miles away - on Monday, August 3.

The Ada County Coroner on Wednesday said forensic dental information helped to positively identify the body found in the canal as Robert Manwill.

Speaking at a press briefing on Wednesday evening, Boise Police Chief Deputy Jim Kerns said "Justice will not be denied for Robert." Kerns said the justice system demands investigations like this one be thorough and methodical. He says the police cannot compromise legal procedures with the premature release of details.

Daniel Ehrlick, Jr. is the brother of Robert's Mother, Melissa Jenkins. His father, Daniel Ehrlick, Sr., told CBS 2 that his granddaughter told him that his son is being treated at Intermountain Hospital, a psychiatric care facility in Boise.Police have not named any suspects, and no one is in custody.

http://www.2news.tv/news/local/52555322.html

Is it just me..or do some of these articles confuse the family members?  Isn't Daniel the brother of the BF..not Melissa's brother?



It's sloppy writing or reporting, Gypsy.
It's very confusing.
Daniel is her boyfriend, not her brother.
David is Daniel's brother.
Daniel Sr. is the dad of both of them.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 07, 2009, 11:11:06 AM
Robert Manwill was murdered

Story Updated: Aug 5, 2009 at 6:18 PM MDT
By Paul Fredericks

Police say it was no accident. And there remains no evidence that indicates Robert Manwill was abducted by a stranger.

The 8-year-old was last seen outside the apartment where his mother lives in Boise on the night of July 24. His body was pulled from the New York Canal - about 14 miles away - on Monday, August 3.

The Ada County Coroner on Wednesday said forensic dental information helped to positively identify the body found in the canal as Robert Manwill.

Speaking at a press briefing on Wednesday evening, Boise Police Chief Deputy Jim Kerns said "Justice will not be denied for Robert." Kerns said the justice system demands investigations like this one be thorough and methodical. He says the police cannot compromise legal procedures with the premature release of details.

Daniel Ehrlick, Jr. is the brother of Robert's Mother, Melissa Jenkins. His father, Daniel Ehrlick, Sr., told CBS 2 that his granddaughter told him that his son is being treated at Intermountain Hospital, a psychiatric care facility in Boise.Police have not named any suspects, and no one is in custody.

http://www.2news.tv/news/local/52555322.html



Is it just me..or do some of these articles confuse the family members?  Isn't Daniel the brother of the BF..not Melissa's brother?



Yea they messed that one up....Daniel Jr. is Melissa's boyfriend, not brother.  David is the brother of Daniel Jr.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 07, 2009, 11:16:14 AM
Pinky..I thought that I had read that Robert had just arrived at his mother's home only a few days before he went missing...I remember thinking at the time, boy, it didn't take them long to do something to Robert..I didn't buy the story of the birthday party or him leaving on his own at 9-9:30 at night from the very beginning...jmo...

I didn't buy the birthday party story either. Adults have birthday party's at 9:00 on Friday night, not children.

I didn't read that about he had only been there a few days. I have read two different versions, that he was there on a weekend visitation and the she had visitation for the summer. It could be she had him for two weeks during the summer, a lot of custody orders are like that. I don't know. :)


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: sunshine12 on August 07, 2009, 11:22:52 AM
sunshine, if you have been following the thread...what you have laid out, is the same theory I have had basically. I believe mom believed what the boyfriend told her at first and came to realize later that he was full of it. That he (the BF) called his brother in a panic, who had already been using the "borrowed" truck and his brother helped him dispose of Robert.

yes, i have been following the thread, sorry if i restated any of your ideas i just wanted to put my personal opinion as to what happened out there


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 07, 2009, 11:29:23 AM
Someone killed 8-year-old Robert Manwill
BY KATHLEEN KRELLER AND KATY MOELLER - kkreller@idahostatesman.com kmoeller@idahostatesman.com

As Boise Deputy Police Chief Jim Kerns promised Wednesday to "determine how and when Robert Manwill died, and who is responsible," his comments narrowed the field of suspects to people who knew Robert.

Police still won't name any suspects or even people of interest. Kerns said police would not prematurely release anything that could "compromise the legal procedures" and the integrity of their case.

A neighbor said she heard Melissa Jenkins tell police she was working the night 8-year-old Robert disappeared. Another neighbor said she saw Daniel Ehrlick Jr. about 7:45 that night outside his home. He often stayed home to care for Robert and the couple's 18-month-old son, Aidan.

State Health and Welfare officials had taken the younger boy away from Jenkins and Ehrlick Jr. last October, after Jenkins was charged with fracturing the child's skull.

Jenkins later was convicted of misdemeanor injury to a child and is on probation until March 2011.

A neighbor and friend, Carol Carrillo, said Aidan had been back in their custody for about two months. She said the couple worked hard to meet Health and Welfare standards to get him back.[/color]
Robert lived primarily with his father, Charles, in New Plymouth - an arrangement crafted after Jenkins was laid up in the hospital for a few weeks before Aidan was born and she had no one to take care of Robert.

An affidavit that Charles Manwill filed at the time to get temporary custody of Robert states that Jenkins told him she "was being physically abused by her ex-boyfriend (the apparent father of the unborn child)."

He added that the hospital "has kept the admission of mother Melissa, and her room number, secret because mother Melissa is concerned that the ex-boyfriend may storm into the hospital and mother Melissa's room and cause extreme trouble."

Ehrlick Jr. also has been barred from being around Jenkins' daughter, not from anything he did, but because the father, Raymond Ames, said he didn't like him or want him around the toddler. The girl lived with Melissa Jenkins until Ames got custody last year.

Family and neighbors say Ehrlick Jr. has given at least two separate explanations about the night Robert disappeared.

Ehrlick Jr.'s father said his son accused him of taking Robert, but he denied it. A resident in the building who did not want to be identified said Ehrlick Jr. told her that Robert was in the hot tub and pool the night he went missing and that a heavy-set couple invited the child to a birthday party. Other neighbors say Robert was never near the pool that night.

Neighbors said neither Jenkins nor Ehrlick Jr. have been at the apartment since Wednesday. One neighbor and KBCI-TV said Ehrlick Jr. has been in a treatment center since being treated at Saint Alphonsus Regional Medical Center in Boise for an undisclosed reason.

Dorothy Aydelotte, Robert's aunt and sister of his father, said Charles Manwill is doing his best to deal with Robert's death.

"He's better than he was a couple days ago, but not good," Aydelotte said. "He's upset, understandably. Robert was very close with his dad."

On Wednesday, Carrillo, Jenkins' upstairs neighbor, said she trusted Jenkins and Ehrlick with her four kids and doesn't believe either of them could be involved.

"There's a little boy who's dead," she said. "There can be no common sense to that. Who could do that? It's hard for me to see that someone that I interacted with on a daily basis could do something like that. ... I'm not in the grieving stage, I'm in the shock stage."

Mindy Clark, who lives in the apartment complex, visited the makeshift memorial to Robert that has been growing for days.

"I feel kind of devastated ... . I've seen him playing," Clark said. "(Today's news is) just kind of hard to swallow. It's just hard ... . Who would hurt a child and just throw him away?"
http://www.bradenton.com/news/breaking_news/story/1621456.html

(http://media.bradenton.com/smedia/2009/08/05/23/0806_Local_vigil.standalone.prod_affiliate.69.jpg)



And according to this article..Aiden is living with Melissa and BF now....BF is Aiden's father.  Maybe BF abused Melissa because Melissa abused Aiden?   Or maybe they are both drug addicts..she looks like a tweaker to me....and neither one has any control over their emotions..particularily anger?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Lovinlife on August 07, 2009, 11:31:42 AM
Thanks for the updates.  He reminds me of my son, age 7.  So sad.  By the grace of God, I pray I never have to walk in their shoes.  RIP Robert & bless the family & community.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: sunshine12 on August 07, 2009, 11:46:57 AM
Intersting comment from Idaho Statesman....

Concernedmother85 wrote on August, 7 8:13 AM:
From an insider, let me tell you this. The little girl who said she was playing with Robert around 7:30 is the same little girl who said confirmed Ehlichs story of the non-existent birthday party. No adult or reliable witness saw Robert that evening. This witness is still a baby. Other children her age had stories of seeing Robert here and there, but the older children did not. Children tell stories, in this instance lots of children said they saw Robert then later admitted they didn't. The spot where Robert was SUPPOSEDLY last seen is a VERY popular spot for childre, yet no one else saw him????? Melissa's whereabouts are being accounted for by this little girl who went along with Daniels first story. All the girls parents can confirm is that the family went swimming at 7:30 and they did not see Robert. An experienced and shrewd detective would poke holes in this. This little girl;s story is NOT RELIABLE!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.idahostatesman.com/robertmanwill/story/857955.html?pageNum=7&&&&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container

interesting find leroy...i can see why this little girls story might not be reliable, and it was the media that published her eyewitness account, not the police, so who knows whether or not it's true, i think if robert wasn't out on the playground at 7 30 pm, then this just gave the bf more time to cover up his crime if he killed robert earlier than 7 30pm... either way, i think the murder and coverup began the day he was reported missing.  i wonder what time mom left for work that day or where she worked.

another theory or idea to put out there that i'm sure has prob been discussed before...

IF the eyewitness accounts are unreliable, and no one saw robert on the day he was reported missing, it's possible that maybe the mother killed robert in a fit of rage that day or a day before and had the bf help her hide what she did, then she went to work as usual and they planned to call and report him missing when she got home from work.





Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 07, 2009, 11:48:58 AM

Stephanie Whittington, who lives in the complex, said officers had been coming downstairs carrying paper bags.

"I don't know what was in them," she said.
sunshine, if you have been following the thread...what you have laid out, is the same theory I have had basically. I believe mom believed what the boyfriend told her at first and came to realize later that he was full of it. That he (the BF) called his brother in a panic, who had already been using the "borrowed" truck and his brother helped him dispose of Robert.

yes, i have been following the thread, sorry if i restated any of your ideas i just wanted to put my personal opinion as to what happened out there

No, don't be sorry! They are not my ideas. Many of us share the same theory is all I was trying to express to you, hon. :)

You simply expressed what many of us have been thinking. I appreciate your input. It reaffirms what we all have been thinking may not be so crazy.

With mom showing up at the press conferences since Robert was found and at the vigils, etc. and the boyfriend being the absent one, makes sense with our theory, don't you think?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 07, 2009, 11:53:01 AM
Someone killed 8-year-old Robert Manwill
BY KATHLEEN KRELLER AND KATY MOELLER - kkreller@idahostatesman.com kmoeller@idahostatesman.com

As Boise Deputy Police Chief Jim Kerns promised Wednesday to "determine how and when Robert Manwill died, and who is responsible," his comments narrowed the field of suspects to people who knew Robert.

Police still won't name any suspects or even people of interest. Kerns said police would not prematurely release anything that could "compromise the legal procedures" and the integrity of their case.

A neighbor said she heard Melissa Jenkins tell police she was working the night 8-year-old Robert disappeared. Another neighbor said she saw Daniel Ehrlick Jr. about 7:45 that night outside his home. He often stayed home to care for Robert and the couple's 18-month-old son, Aidan.

State Health and Welfare officials had taken the younger boy away from Jenkins and Ehrlick Jr. last October, after Jenkins was charged with fracturing the child's skull.

Jenkins later was convicted of misdemeanor injury to a child and is on probation until March 2011.

A neighbor and friend, Carol Carrillo, said Aidan had been back in their custody for about two months. She said the couple worked hard to meet Health and Welfare standards to get him back.[/color]
Robert lived primarily with his father, Charles, in New Plymouth - an arrangement crafted after Jenkins was laid up in the hospital for a few weeks before Aidan was born and she had no one to take care of Robert.

An affidavit that Charles Manwill filed at the time to get temporary custody of Robert states that Jenkins told him she "was being physically abused by her ex-boyfriend (the apparent father of the unborn child)."

He added that the hospital "has kept the admission of mother Melissa, and her room number, secret because mother Melissa is concerned that the ex-boyfriend may storm into the hospital and mother Melissa's room and cause extreme trouble."

Ehrlick Jr. also has been barred from being around Jenkins' daughter, not from anything he did, but because the father, Raymond Ames, said he didn't like him or want him around the toddler. The girl lived with Melissa Jenkins until Ames got custody last year.

Family and neighbors say Ehrlick Jr. has given at least two separate explanations about the night Robert disappeared.

Ehrlick Jr.'s father said his son accused him of taking Robert, but he denied it. A resident in the building who did not want to be identified said Ehrlick Jr. told her that Robert was in the hot tub and pool the night he went missing and that a heavy-set couple invited the child to a birthday party. Other neighbors say Robert was never near the pool that night.

Neighbors said neither Jenkins nor Ehrlick Jr. have been at the apartment since Wednesday. One neighbor and KBCI-TV said Ehrlick Jr. has been in a treatment center since being treated at Saint Alphonsus Regional Medical Center in Boise for an undisclosed reason.

Dorothy Aydelotte, Robert's aunt and sister of his father, said Charles Manwill is doing his best to deal with Robert's death.

"He's better than he was a couple days ago, but not good," Aydelotte said. "He's upset, understandably. Robert was very close with his dad."

On Wednesday, Carrillo, Jenkins' upstairs neighbor, said she trusted Jenkins and Ehrlick with her four kids and doesn't believe either of them could be involved.

"There's a little boy who's dead," she said. "There can be no common sense to that. Who could do that? It's hard for me to see that someone that I interacted with on a daily basis could do something like that. ... I'm not in the grieving stage, I'm in the shock stage."

Mindy Clark, who lives in the apartment complex, visited the makeshift memorial to Robert that has been growing for days.

"I feel kind of devastated ... . I've seen him playing," Clark said. "(Today's news is) just kind of hard to swallow. It's just hard ... . Who would hurt a child and just throw him away?"
http://www.bradenton.com/news/breaking_news/story/1621456.html

(http://media.bradenton.com/smedia/2009/08/05/23/0806_Local_vigil.standalone.prod_affiliate.69.jpg)



And according to this article..Aiden is living with Melissa and BF now....BF is Aiden's father.  Maybe BF abused Melissa because Melissa abused Aiden?   Or maybe they are both drug addicts..she looks like a tweaker to me....and neither one has any control over their emotions..particularily anger?

What if mom never abused Aiden and simply took the wrap for it because she was/is afraid of the boyfriend? There was a reason the BF wasn't allowed her daughter via court order.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 07, 2009, 11:56:11 AM

interesting find leroy...i can see why this little girls story might not be reliable, and it was the media that published her eyewitness account, not the police, so who knows whether or not it's true, i think if robert wasn't out on the playground at 7 30 pm, then this just gave the bf more time to cover up his crime if he killed robert earlier than 7 30pm... either way, i think the murder and coverup began the day he was reported missing.  i wonder what time mom left for work that day or where she worked.

another theory or idea to put out there that i'm sure has prob been discussed before...

IF the eyewitness accounts are unreliable, and no one saw robert on the day he was reported missing, it's possible that maybe the mother killed robert in a fit of rage that day or a day before and had the bf help her hide what she did, then she went to work as usual and they planned to call and report him missing when she got home from work.





I really wish we had this info too! 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 07, 2009, 11:58:09 AM
Leroy, thanks for posting the comment regarding the little girl.

It makes you wonder huh?

I wish there was an ADULT who saw Robert that day, on Friday. An ADULT other than mom, BF or "grandpop" that believes he saw someone that looked like Robert in a white shirt.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 07, 2009, 12:49:29 PM
Intersting comment from Idaho Statesman....

Concernedmother85 wrote on August, 7 8:13 AM:
From an insider, let me tell you this. The little girl who said she was playing with Robert around 7:30 is the same little girl who said confirmed Ehlichs story of the non-existent birthday party. No adult or reliable witness saw Robert that evening. This witness is still a baby. Other children her age had stories of seeing Robert here and there, but the older children did not. Children tell stories, in this instance lots of children said they saw Robert then later admitted they didn't. The spot where Robert was SUPPOSEDLY last seen is a VERY popular spot for childre, yet no one else saw him????? Melissa's whereabouts are being accounted for by this little girl who went along with Daniels first story. All the girls parents can confirm is that the family went swimming at 7:30 and they did not see Robert. An experienced and shrewd detective would poke holes in this. This little girl;s story is NOT RELIABLE!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.idahostatesman.com/robertmanwill/story/857955.html?pageNum=7&&&&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container

interesting find leroy...i can see why this little girls story might not be reliable, and it was the media that published her eyewitness account, not the police, so who knows whether or not it's true, i think if robert wasn't out on the playground at 7 30 pm, then this just gave the bf more time to cover up his crime if he killed robert earlier than 7 30pm... either way, i think the murder and coverup began the day he was reported missing.  i wonder what time mom left for work that day or where she worked.

another theory or idea to put out there that i'm sure has prob been discussed before...

IF the eyewitness accounts are unreliable, and no one saw robert on the day he was reported missing, it's possible that maybe the mother killed robert in a fit of rage that day or a day before and had the bf help her hide what she did, then she went to work as usual and they planned to call and report him missing when she got home from work.




That is very possible also sunshine, and also, of course little kids stories could be made up, not necessarily on purpose of course, but maybe the child is saying what she thinks adults want her to.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 07, 2009, 12:51:13 PM
I may be going crazy  ::MonkeyDevil2::  but I know I read that there was an adult birthday party at the complex that evening, I may have read it on WS, but I know I read it  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: sunshine12 on August 07, 2009, 12:51:26 PM
pink angel- in regards to your question about what if the bf was the one who fractured aiden's skull and mom took the blame for him...i think this could be a possibility..

i don't mean to hijack this thread with a personal story but i think it has relevance to the question you asked..as many of you know, i used to work for child protective services before the moral dilemma's i had with the agency became too much and i couldn't bring myself to do it anymore. i had a case in which a young baby presented at the hospital with a fractured skull.  both parents stated that the baby rolled off the bed...the doctors called us to investigate because there was no way a baby that age would have been able to roll over yet.  to make a long story short, the parents history of events did not coincide with the child's injury.  i was instructed by a supervisor to tell them that if they didn't come forward with what really happened, both parents would be indicated for child abuse.  the next day the mother informed us that she had been drinking and dropped the baby on the concrete patio.  who knows how true this is. i always believed in my heart that the father, who was a drug addict with extreme anger problems and had a history of child abuse in another state had something to do with it.  the child is now with a relative in another state (thank god)... it turns out that a few months later the mother and bf broke up, and the mother appealed the agency's decision to indicate her for child abuse. (she was never charged criminally with anything, who knows why) at the appeal hearing, her lawyer said that she was covering for the boyfriend b/c he told her he would leave her if she didn't take the blame.


so, to answer your question, yes, i think it's possible that the mother took the blame for the boyfriend. if this is the case, i wouldn't be suprised to see this come out in the bf's murder trial (if its allowed, im not sure if it would be since she did plead guilty to it) if he is charged with roberts murder and the mother comes to her senses.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 07, 2009, 01:01:19 PM
I also think its possible that the Danny was the one that injured the child and Melissa just covered for him.  However, if Danny is responsible for whatever happened to Robert, then Melissa is just as guilty for leaving her child home alone with a known child abuser.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: sunshine12 on August 07, 2009, 01:21:05 PM
I also think its possible that the Danny was the one that injured the child and Melissa just covered for him.  However, if Danny is responsible for whatever happened to Robert, then Melissa is just as guilty for leaving her child home alone with a known child abuser.

i agree with you leroy...its disgusting

when i look into the eyes of melissa in the photos from the most recent press conference, i see an empty black hole. i dont know what this means exactly in terms of her level of involvement in roberts death but its very disturbing


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: sunshine12 on August 07, 2009, 01:39:23 PM
from the idahostatesman:

Concernedmother85 wrote on August, 6 4:39 PM:
I was told that she works for an evening janitorial service and she was driving their SUV that evening. If the SUV was not involved, why was it towed away Thursday evening?


http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/857401.html?storylink=pluck_commented&pageNum=15&&&&&&&&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: sunshine12 on August 07, 2009, 01:46:47 PM
from the idahostatesman:

Concernedmother85 wrote on August, 6 4:39 PM:
I was told that she works for an evening janitorial service and she was driving their SUV that evening. If the SUV was not involved, why was it towed away Thursday evening?


http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/857401.html?storylink=pluck_commented&pageNum=15&&&&&&&&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container


sorry i should clarify what that post is in reference too...the poster is saying that she was told that roberts mother works for an evening janitorial service and had their suv the night robert was reported missing.  the suv was later towed away by the police.  (this is not the same suv that was stolen from the mans house where they were searching for robert)

i remember reading somewhere that a police officer on the scene was heard saying "i have a hit" or something when performing some forensic work on melissa and the bf's suv while it was still parked at the apartment complex..i will go try to find where i read this


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 07, 2009, 01:50:17 PM
from the idahostatesman:

Concernedmother85 wrote on August, 6 4:39 PM:
I was told that she works for an evening janitorial service and she was driving their SUV that evening. If the SUV was not involved, why was it towed away Thursday evening?


http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/857401.html?storylink=pluck_commented&pageNum=15&&&&&&&&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container


sorry i should clarify what that post is in reference too...the poster is saying that she was told that roberts mother works for an evening janitorial service and had their suv the night robert was reported missing.  the suv was later towed away by the police.  (this is not the same suv that was stolen from the mans house where they were searching for robert)

i remember reading somewhere that a police officer on the scene was heard saying "i have a hit" or something when performing some forensic work on melissa and the bf's suv while it was still parked at the apartment complex..i will go try to find where i read this

I remember this too. 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 07, 2009, 01:57:00 PM
Fundraising Efforts for the Family of Robert Manwill

Posted: Aug 7, 2009 01:35 PM EDT
 
Boise, Idaho -- Efforts to raise money for the Manwill family has become the new focus for neighbors and community volunteers.

The ongoing vigil outside the home of Robert's mother is now covered due to rain and wind, but people here remain steadfast.

According to Gina Guzzetta Dalrymple, the concern has changed to helping Robert's family financially, "because the family can't really afford to pay for the funeral services and it's a very high cost for everybody."

As the vigil continues, they'll have a piggy bank on hand, and of course any contributions will be welcomed.

"If you just want to drop change in it, whatever you want to drop in it, we'll accept it" said Guzzetta-Dalrymple.

For those who want to help out anonymously, an account has also been set up at Wells Fargo under the name Robert Manwill.

Dalrymple says she's hoping this effort will take some of the stress off the family, "I'm glad there's at least part of a closure -- that we know where his body is, and that justice will take it's course on whoever did this to him."

The money being raised will go toward funeral expenses and any remaining funds will go to the Ronald McDonald foundation in the name of Robert Manwill.


http://www.fox12idaho.com/Global/story.asp?S=10866578&nav=menu439_2_1


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 07, 2009, 02:11:56 PM
I also think its possible that the Danny was the one that injured the child and Melissa just covered for him.  However, if Danny is responsible for whatever happened to Robert, then Melissa is just as guilty for leaving her child home alone with a known child abuser.

I agree with you, Melissa is not blameless in this.

re: regarding the red SUV being towed.

If Danny used Melissa's SUV or rode in Melissa's SUV to "search for Robert" before LE was called, that could be the positive that a neighbor overheard the police say. A positive hit by a dog. In other words, he could have had some of Robert's scent on him and transfered it into Melissa's SUV.



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 07, 2009, 02:14:18 PM
I also think its possible that the Danny was the one that injured the child and Melissa just covered for him.  However, if Danny is responsible for whatever happened to Robert, then Melissa is just as guilty for leaving her child home alone with a known child abuser.

I agree with you, Melissa is not blameless in this.

re: regarding the red SUV being towed.

If Danny used Melissa's SUV or rode in Melissa's SUV to "search for Robert" before LE was called, that could be the positive that a neighbor overheard the police say. A positive hit by a dog. In other words, he could have had some of Robert's scent on him and transfered it into Melissa's SUV.



He could have quite possibly transfered fluids (blood that may have been on his shoes for example) too. Just tossing that out there also.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: sunshine12 on August 07, 2009, 02:17:04 PM
I also think its possible that the Danny was the one that injured the child and Melissa just covered for him.  However, if Danny is responsible for whatever happened to Robert, then Melissa is just as guilty for leaving her child home alone with a known child abuser.

I agree with you, Melissa is not blameless in this.

re: regarding the red SUV being towed.

If Danny used Melissa's SUV or rode in Melissa's SUV to "search for Robert" before LE was called, that could be the positive that a neighbor overheard the police say. A positive hit by a dog. In other words, he could have had some of Robert's scent on him and transfered it into Melissa's SUV.



i agree, or he could have had some of roberts blood on him.  i'm sure robert has driven in that suv before so his scent would prob be in there.  i think maybe they found blood and thats what they were referring to as the "hit" but im not totally sure


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: sunshine12 on August 07, 2009, 02:18:17 PM
pink angel- we think alike again, lol, i think we both typed the thing about the blood at like the same time haha.

i hope we have an arrest today, i feel like its coming soon


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 07, 2009, 02:22:21 PM
sunshine: Thanks for that story. I too have worked with many family court cases, though as a volunteer not as a paid employee and have seen women that have taken the wrap for something their husband or boyfriend did. Either out of fear of the man or because the man (who usually had a rap sheet already) convinced them that they wouldn't get in as much trouble and wouldn't do jail time but if LE busted them (the man) on it, that he would be sent away for awhile and wouldn't be around to pay the bills, etc...and that the woman and the children would be all alone.

Leroy, thanks for the update. It's wonderful how this community is supporting Robert and his family. For a population of over 200,000 it sure has a small town feel to it.



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 07, 2009, 02:25:05 PM
I also think its possible that the Danny was the one that injured the child and Melissa just covered for him.  However, if Danny is responsible for whatever happened to Robert, then Melissa is just as guilty for leaving her child home alone with a known child abuser.

I agree with you, Melissa is not blameless in this.

re: regarding the red SUV being towed.

If Danny used Melissa's SUV or rode in Melissa's SUV to "search for Robert" before LE was called, that could be the positive that a neighbor overheard the police say. A positive hit by a dog. In other words, he could have had some of Robert's scent on him and transfered it into Melissa's SUV.



i agree, or he could have had some of roberts blood on him.  i'm sure robert has driven in that suv before so his scent would prob be in there.  i think maybe they found blood and thats what they were referring to as the "hit" but im not totally sure

It was also a rumor on a website. You have to keep that in mind. It wasn't in a media report or released info from LE. I think it's pretty standard to take any vehicles involved, if LE thinks one of the caretakers in the home had something to do with his disappearance.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: sunshine12 on August 07, 2009, 02:27:26 PM
so if its true that the mother had the red SUV that night, and if the bf killed robert, he would have had no vehicle or way to dispose of the body without the help of someone else to bring the stolen suv to him. which would make sense with the theory of the bf's brother bringing him the stolen car and roberts scent being found in that car and in the backyard of that man's home that was searched (sorry i keep forgetting his name)... this would also mean we'd be seeing at least 2 people arrested


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 07, 2009, 02:46:29 PM
(http://www.ktvb.com/images/slideshow/aug0609-manwill/images/christmas-2005c.jpg)

I love this picture of little man Robert. He reminds me of my son when my son was younger. He had a hat fetish. He had a firehat, a construction hat, a police hat, any kind of hat, he had and I have pictures of him and my dad (lol) in all of them.

Here is a slideshow of Robert's pictures, that are also on the myspace his family set up for him.
http://www.ktvb.com/perl/common/slideshow/sspop.pl?recid=17734&nextimage=0

His myspace address is: http://www.myspace.com/meetrobertmanwill




Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 07, 2009, 03:01:18 PM
Pink - that is my favorite pic too!  The myspace is very nice except I wish they had more recent pics of him.



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 07, 2009, 03:04:08 PM
so if its true that the mother had the red SUV that night, and if the bf killed robert, he would have had no vehicle or way to dispose of the body without the help of someone else to bring the stolen suv to him. which would make sense with the theory of the bf's brother bringing him the stolen car and roberts scent being found in that car and in the backyard of that man's home that was searched (sorry i keep forgetting his name)... this would also mean we'd be seeing at least 2 people arrested

I'm still confused about how many cars were taken from Melissa's apartment that night...some reports said just one and some reports said several vehicles.  But yes, if they did only have the SUV then this theory is very likely.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: klaasend on August 07, 2009, 03:28:48 PM
I have a feeling they are waiitng until after the memorial service to make arrests.  Then I think they will arrest the bf and maybe Melissa too.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 07, 2009, 04:10:03 PM
I have a feeling they are waiitng until after the memorial service to make arrests.  Then I think they will arrest the bf and maybe Melissa too.

That would make sense....and I think it would be very respectful to Robert. 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: sunshine12 on August 07, 2009, 04:10:29 PM
I have a feeling they are waiitng until after the memorial service to make arrests.  Then I think they will arrest the bf and maybe Melissa too.

i think you are right, especially since it's family members that would most likely be arrested and it's not some serial killer on the loose. 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 07, 2009, 04:42:58 PM
I have a feeling they are waiitng until after the memorial service to make arrests.  Then I think they will arrest the bf and maybe Melissa too.

That would make sense....and I think it would be very respectful to Robert. 
Yes, that is probably what they are doing, is the boyfriend still in the hospital?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: sunshine12 on August 07, 2009, 04:50:52 PM
according to a poster on another site who lives in the apt complex, he has been released from the hospital and the mother allegedly called the apt complx and told them not to allow him near the apartment (not that anyone is allowed in there as its prob a crime scene away)  but again, i don't know how accurate this info is.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 07, 2009, 06:51:51 PM
according to a poster on another site who lives in the apt complex, he has been released from the hospital and the mother allegedly called the apt complx and told them not to allow him near the apartment (not that anyone is allowed in there as its prob a crime scene away)  but again, i don't know how accurate this info is.
Thank-you  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 07, 2009, 07:51:46 PM
according to a poster on another site who lives in the apt complex, he has been released from the hospital and the mother allegedly called the apt complx and told them not to allow him near the apartment (not that anyone is allowed in there as its prob a crime scene away)  but again, i don't know how accurate this info is.
Thank-you  ::MonkeyCool::

Yes, thanks sunshine!!


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 07, 2009, 08:32:04 PM
(http://www.ktvb.com/images/slideshow/aug0609-manwill/images/christmas-2005c.jpg)

I love this picture of little man Robert. He reminds me of my son when my son was younger. He had a hat fetish. He had a firehat, a construction hat, a police hat, any kind of hat, he had and I have pictures of him and my dad (lol) in all of them.

Here is a slideshow of Robert's pictures, that are also on the myspace his family set up for him.
http://www.ktvb.com/perl/common/slideshow/sspop.pl?recid=17734&nextimage=0

His myspace address is: http://www.myspace.com/meetrobertmanwill




Ah..TY Pink ..these are such sweet pics of a very adorable child that never should have been allowed in his Mom's home as long as she lived with the drug abuser, that also abused her while she was pregnant with Aiden.

I guess I just can't believe the judge allowed Robert to stay there, and had returned Aiden to that same home.  What the heck is wrong with her?

I know that either the Mom did this or the BF did?  I just know that in my heart.  And whatever it was, it must have been awful and he must have been so frightened.

I still think besides her work hours on Friday..I want to know her and his whereabouts that entire week.  Since the SUV was taken on Wednesday..I still think something happened then or a day or so before.

Just senseless and could have been avoided had the judge simply removed Robert from that home.  I hope they remove Aiden too. 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 07, 2009, 08:37:40 PM

Ah..TY Pink ..these are such sweet pics of a very adorable child that never should have been allowed in his Mom's home as long as she lived with the drug abuser, that also abused her while she was pregnant with Aiden.

I guess I just can't believe the judge allowed Robert to stay there, and had returned Aiden to that same home.  What the heck is wrong with her?

I know that either the Mom did this or the BF did?  I just know that in my heart.  And whatever it was, it must have been awful and he must have been so frightened.

I still think besides her work hours on Friday..I want to know her and his whereabouts that entire week.  Since the SUV was taken on Wednesday..I still think something happened then or a day or so before.

Just senseless and could have been avoided had the judge simply removed Robert from that home.  I hope they remove Aiden too. 


I think David (the BF's brother) "borrowed" Wallis's SUV on Wednesday (with or without his permission) to kick around and joy ride in while his buddy was out of town. He just happened to have it when Danny called needing his help on Friday.  that's my theory.

He couldn't do leave and get rid of Robert himself because 1.) He may or may not have had access to a vehicle with Melissa being at work. 2.) What if she came home early and no one is home. 3.) He was also taking care of baby Aiden.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 07, 2009, 11:29:00 PM
(http://i26.tinypic.com/29opj0i.jpg)

Lighting a candle and saying a prayer for little man and his family.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 08, 2009, 03:38:32 AM
Boy gets emotional tribute

Updated 1 hour 7 minutes ago

BOISE — As the sun went down Friday, hundreds huddled in a Boise to pay tribute and say goodbye to slain 8-year-old Robert Manwill.

Emotions grew high and candles burned brightly as families gathered near the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints at Cherry Lane and Shoshone Street.

Some wore green ribbons and ate green cupcakes while holding the same shade of balloons in honor of the New Plymouth boy's favorite color — even the candleholders were green.

A shrine full of stuffed bears, dogs, turtles and a menagerie of other animals, toys and flowers grew steadily as a crowd gathered for the candlelight event, which featured a balloon release at dusk, and food for those who arrived to remember Robert.

"Rest in Peace Robert. Boise will not let you be forgotten" read a sign in the middle of the shrine, bringing back memories of the 10-day search for the boy that ended in tragedy.

His body was found in an Ada County canal Monday after he was reported missing July 24. Boise police officials said his death was not an accident and they're investigating it as a homicide.

Neighbor recalls boy

Neighbor Tori Oldroyd, who attended the vigil with her husband, Craig, said she saw the young boy the same day he disappeared:

"It matched up exactly with the time on the reports," she said.

"We have a puppy and I was outside with the puppy when Robert yelled back to his friends that (he) couldn't stay."

The search for Robert brought helping hands from all of the Treasure Valley's law enforcement agencies and volunteers from across the region. The numbers added up to more than 2,000 volunteers.

"We're just here to support the community and the loss they have all felt," Craig Oldroyd said at the vigil.

Holly Sheffield of Boise said she grew up with Robert's mother and felt she should pay her respects, coming to the vigil with two of her children and her cousin, Jeanette Brooks.

"I was amazed at how the community came together to look for Robert. It's sad it takes something this devastating to bring us together, but it's amazing," Sheffield said.

Brooks, who has an 8-year-old boy of her own, added: "Even the idea of not knowing where he is for even two seconds would drive me crazy ... I want them to know the community is here for them and anything they may need. There's nothing we can do to bring him back, but hopefully the support can help."

Range of emotions

No suspects have been named in the incident, but Boise Deputy Police Chief Jim Kerns said there is no evidence a stranger abducted Robert.

The boy's family came forward in a press conference this week to thank the community and the officials who aided in the search.

Shannda Pope and her partner came from Meridian to the vigil with four girls ranging in age from 2 to 13, who watched the story unfold on television.

"I think that when a little kid dies, it brings together an entire community in a different way than when you hear about murders on TV," Pope said. "The scary part I think is that now no one knows, so there is someone who killed a boy out there."

http://www.idahopress.com/news/?2009-08-08-Boy-gets-emotional-tribute

(http://www.idahopress.com/cms/artwork/articleimages/09/August/10360.jpg)
Melissa Jenkins, mother of 8-year-old Robert Manwill, is consoled by Nikki Adams, of Boise, shortly after supporters released dozens of green balloons into the sky at the vigil.

(http://www.idahopress.com/cms/artwork/articleimages/09/August/1036.jpg)
Charles Manwill, father of Robert Manwill, is consoled during a vigil for his son on Friday evening across from the Oak Park Village apartment complex in Boise.

Slideshow of the vigil
http://www.idahopress.com/multimedia/?mid=899





Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 08, 2009, 03:43:43 AM
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Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 08, 2009, 04:00:37 AM
Community comes together to say goodbye to Robert

Story Updated: Aug 7, 2009 at 10:33 PM MDT
By Kiersten Throndsen
(http://media.2news.tv/images/friday_vigil.jpg)
BOISE - Friday night marked two weeks since 8-year-old Robert Manwill was originally reported missing. Hundreds of community members showed up to honor the little boy and say goodbye.

"Robert is our little boy and now he is your little boy," said Trish Burrill, Robert's Aunt, as she addressed the crowd.

A number of Robert's family attended the vigil, thanking the community for everything they have done over the past two weeks.

Dozens of green balloons were released into the air in honor of Robert's favorite color.

"I think everybody grew to love Robert if they knew him or not," said Stephaine Mishler, a Boise resident who helped search for Robert since the beginning.

Many people who attended the vigil said they hoped it would help bring closure to not only the family but also everyone who supported the search effort and let Robert into their hearts.

"We are a strong community and I think tonight will help bring hope that if something happened to another child we would all be there," said Amber Jones, a resident of Boise.

Candles were lite and a moment of silence was heard before the crowd left.

Robert's family has invited everyone to show up at the Meridian Speedway Saturday night as they race in Robert's name.

His funeral service is scheduled for Sunday at 2:00p.m. at Cloverdale Funeral Home. Robert's family says the community is welcome to attend.
http://www.2news.tv/news/local/52693382.html

Video of the vigil
http://www.2news.tv/news/local/52693382.html?video=YHI&t=a


Hundreds of teddy bears from Manwill memorial will be donated Saturday

By KATY MOELLER - kmoeller@idahostatesman.com
Published: 08/07/09

More than 200 teddy bears that have been left at what has become a makeshift memorial site for Robert Manwill will be taken to the Ronald McDonald House on Saturday, according to the Boise couple who set out the first trio of teddy bears after the 8-year-old went missing July 24. The personal letters, photos and other items left in tribute to Robert will go to his family.

Robert's body was found in a canal near Kuna on Monday. Police say they are investigating his death as a homicide.

Nikki Adams, of Boise, said her kids picked out three of their own teddy bears and placed them on the sidewalk on Shoshone Street, near the Oak Park Village apartment where Manwill's mother lives.

They were among hundreds of people who gathered at the memorial Friday to remember Robert.

"It was so when he came home he'd get to be with his teddy bears," Adams said.

With each passing day, the number of teddy bears grew. Visitors left other items, including photos, cards and candles. It became a gathering spot for nightly vigils, with many lighting candles.

Gina Guzzetta-Dalrymple, 36, felt so moved to watch over the site — and keep the candles burning — that she decided to sleep in a tent next to it.

"I wanted to make sure the vigil stayed safe and secure," she said.

At about 6:45 p.m. Thursday, her third night watching over the site, Guzzetta-Dalrymple was arrested by police and taken away in handcuffs. She was booked into the Ada County Jail on two outstanding misdemeanor warrants for failure to appear in court. She posted bond and was out by midnight.  {me - this SUCKS}

Guzzetta-Dalrymple said she is really angry about getting arrested.

"There's only a homicide (investigation) going on. Let's go after me," she said Friday. She said she planned to camp out again at the site Friday night.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/859485.html



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 08, 2009, 04:52:32 AM
Vigil honors Robert Manwill
Katherine Jones - Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/08/09

Hundreds of people gathered to remember 8-year-old Robert Manwill on Friday night across the street from Robert’s mother’s Vista Avenue-area apartment. Leonora Porter and her three children wrote a message on a photo of Robert, whose body was found Monday. “We knew him. Robert was our friend,” Porter said. Friends and strangers brought stuffed animals, lit candles and released green balloons — Robert’s favorite color. They ate pizza, meatballs, green cupcakes and ice cream sandwiches, Robert’s “favorite sandwich.”

PUBLIC SERVICES SET • Racing dedicated to Robert, Meridian Speedway, Saturday, 335 S. Main St. in Meridian. Gates open at 4 p.m. and racing begins at 6:30 p.m. •Funeral services, 2 p.m. Sunday, Cloverdale Funeral Home, 1200 N. Cloverdale Road, Boise.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/859556.html

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Lexi Humpherys, 10, left, and Destiny Fleenor, 10, seek out Robert's father, Charles Manwill, to give him a hug. "I felt real sad for him. I wanted to cheer him up a little," said Destiny. Although neither knew Robert, Lexi's brother went to school with him. The girls attended the vigil "to respect Robert's family," said Lexi.

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Nikki Adams, right, and Robert's mother, Melissa Jenkins, share tears after the release of green balloons.

Vigil Picture Gallery:
http://www.idahostatesman.com/397/gallery/859533-a859530-t2.html

Robert's Obituary and Guestbook for condolences for the family.
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/idahostatesman/obituary.aspx?n=robert-grant-manwill&pid=131021531



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 08, 2009, 10:17:53 AM
Thank-you for the updates  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 08, 2009, 10:54:51 AM
Quote from Pink Angel-

--snipped--

At about 6:45 p.m. Thursday, her third night watching over the site, Guzzetta-Dalrymple was arrested by police and taken away in handcuffs. She was booked into the Ada County Jail on two outstanding misdemeanor warrants for failure to appear in court. She posted bond and was out by midnight.  {me - this SUCKS}

Guzzetta-Dalrymple said she is really angry about getting arrested.

"There's only a homicide (investigation) going on. Let's go after me," she said Friday. She said she planned to camp out again at the site Friday night.


http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/859485.html

Yea this is not right...and I read a comment that they arrested in front of kids that were there   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: NCMike on August 08, 2009, 11:10:24 AM
God Bless the poeple of Boise.

It is truly awesome to see the amount of support the community has offered.

God Bless Robert and now he can fly with the other angels!


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 08, 2009, 11:14:54 AM
Quote from Pink Angel-

--snipped--

At about 6:45 p.m. Thursday, her third night watching over the site, Guzzetta-Dalrymple was arrested by police and taken away in handcuffs. She was booked into the Ada County Jail on two outstanding misdemeanor warrants for failure to appear in court. She posted bond and was out by midnight.  {me - this SUCKS}

Guzzetta-Dalrymple said she is really angry about getting arrested.

"There's only a homicide (investigation) going on. Let's go after me," she said Friday. She said she planned to camp out again at the site Friday night.


http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/859485.html

Yea this is not right...and I read a comment that they arrested in front of kids that were there   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

I totally agree  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 08, 2009, 11:42:49 AM
Good Morning NoRose!


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 08, 2009, 11:46:11 AM
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Robert's family, including his mother, Melissa Jenkins,
released green balloons — Robert's favorite color — at the candlelight vigil.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/397/gallery/859533-a859514-t2.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 08, 2009, 11:48:27 AM
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Nikki Adams, right, and Robert's mother, Melissa Jenkins,
share tears after the release of green balloons.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/397/gallery/859533-a859508-t2.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on August 08, 2009, 12:09:11 PM
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Lighting a candle and saying a prayer for little man and his family.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m


Bringing forward this beautiful picture posted by Pink. 
Thank you Pink & all for the updates & links.  I have been lurking & appreciate all the information you have provided.

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::  Justice for Robert   ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Fanny Mae on August 08, 2009, 12:25:28 PM
Thank you PINK, for all the pictures and updates. The whole thing is almost too painful and read, and the pictures so sad and touching. The murder of one small child has brought so much pain to so many people.   ::MonkeyWaa::

Rest in peace, little Robert Manwell.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 08, 2009, 02:07:42 PM
Funeral services for Robert Manwill open to public
 - The Associated Press
Published: 08/08/09

BOISE, Idaho — The family of an 8-year-old boy who was missing for more than a week before his body was found in a canal is opening up funeral services to the public.

A service for Robert Manwill is planned for 2 p.m. Sunday at the Cloverdale Funeral Home in Boise.

Police say the death is an active homicide investigation and there is no evidence the boy was abducted by a stranger.

The child reportedly disappeared July 24 after leaving his mother's apartment in Boise.

A passerby called emergency workers Monday to report a body in the canal near Kuna about 1:30 p.m.

The boy was visiting his mother the night he vanished. His father, Charles Manwill, lives in New Plymouth and has had custody since 2008.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/531/story/859791.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on August 08, 2009, 06:48:55 PM
http://www.ktvb.com/news/nearyou/boise/ktvbn-aug0809-manwill_vigils.bf2e8dc4.html

Robert Manwill's life honored around area

04:20 PM MDT on Saturday, August 8, 2009

KTVB

BOISE -- This weekend the community is remembering Robert Manwill. The public remembrance started Friday night, two weeks to the day since Manwill was last seen alive.

 The 8-year-old was reported missing two weeks ago Friday. His body was found in a canal on Monday.

The first of the events was Friday night's vigil near the apartment complex where Manwill was last seen.

The people behind the vigil didn't know Robert Manwill's family.

But Steve and Nikki Adams took part in the community search efforts when he was reported missing on July 24 and organized the gathering.

"It hit us.  It hit us really hard," they said.

"Me and my wife just sat down on Tuesday and started calling businesses and saying ‘can you please help?’  And I swear to you, there wasn't one business that didn't say, 'we'll help'," said Steve Adams.

Businesses donated everything from pizza to coffee and even balloons for the memorial.

In honor of Manwill, a moment of silence will be held at Meridian Speedway Saturday.

The public is invited to join Robert's family at the races.

Manwill's uncle races super-stock cars and will be racing Saturday night.

The gates open at 4 p.m. and the racing begins at 6:30 p.m.

Sunday, a memorial service will be held for Manwill.

Several of the weekend's events are made possible by the generous donations of perfect strangers and their generous out pouring of donations.

At the funeral, the floral arrangements, specially designed green bouquets representing Robert's favorite color will be supplied by "Boise At Its Best". 

 "I'm making arrangements for the funeral service, two of them, one for each side and we're using all the green flowers with accents of white," said Georgia White, who is donating the arrangements. "And then, little boys love bugs so I'm trying to incorporate some butterflies, dragon flies and other little bugs I'm going to put on it."

Robert Manwill's funeral is open to the public.  It will be held at Cloverdale Funeral Home at 2 p.m. You can watch that service live on KTVB.COM.

(There is a video at that site)


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 09, 2009, 05:42:13 AM
Thank you Leroy and cece for the updates


Robert Manwill's mom followed steps in custody case
The state has a procedure to decide whether a child is reunited with family after possible abuse.
BY ANNA WEBB - awebb@idahostatesman.com
Copyright: © 2009 Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/09/09

The case of 8-year-old Robert Manwill has raised two persistent questions:

® Why did his mother get 30 days in jail, a suspended fine and probation for fracturing the skull of Robert's infant half brother?

® Why was the baby allowed to return to his mother, who was still on probation for harming him?

Robert was found dead on Monday after being missing for more than a week. Boise police say they are investigating his death as a homicide. Robert spent most of his time living with his father in New Plymouth but was visiting his mother in Boise at the time of his disappearance on July 24.

WHY DID MELISSA JENKINS GET THE SENTENCE SHE DID?

In March, Robert's mother, Melissa Jenkins, pleaded guilty to misdemeanor injury to a child after Robert's half brother, Aidan Ehrlick, then 8 months old, suffered a fractured skull in October and was placed in foster care.

Jenkins claimed she had accidentally hit the baby's head on a table while burping him.

The penalty for misdemeanor injury to a child is up to $1,000 in fines and 60 days in jail. Jenkins' sentence was less than that: 30 days in jail, $75 in court costs and two years' probation.

Ada County Deputy Prosecutor Fafa Alidjani, who handled the case, said the sentence was based on an agreement with Jenkins' lawyer, public defender Ann Cosho.

Alidjani said she made the deal because she didn't have forensic evidence to disprove Jenkins' version of the story beyond a reasonable doubt, which she would have had to do in a trial.

"No one else was there to see it," Alidjani said. "My personal opinion of what happened wouldn't have mattered."

Alidjani said the sentence the lawyers negotiated was the best one for the time and circumstance, and seemed the best to get Jenkins back on track as a parent.

"Your hope is that a sentence provides that no one will be harmed in the future," Alidjani said.

WHY WAS THE BABY RETURNED TO HIS MOTHER?

Jenkins and boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick had been working to get Aidan back since Jenkins' sentencing in March.

Carol Carrillo, their friend and neighbor, said the couple was taking court-ordered parenting and anger-management classes, and that Aidan had been back in the home for about two months at the time of Robert's disappearance.

Jenkins and Ehrlick had earned custody of Aidan in stages, as is common in such cases: first with supervised visits away from their home, then supervised visits at the apartment where they lived.

Ehrlick finished his series of classes before Jenkins, so for a time the baby was able to stay overnight, but only if Jenkins stayed somewhere else, Carrillo said.

"She didn't care. Whatever it took to get the kids back. She said that whatever she and Danny had to do, they would do it."

WHAT'S THE STATE'S PROCESS FOR DECIDING CUSTODY CASES?

The Department of Health and Welfare treats every case of suspected child abuse individually, said department spokeswoman Emily Simnitt. But for any report of child abuse from any source, the state takes the same general steps.

"When we get a referral about a child being abused or neglected, we work with law enforcement to determine whether there's imminent danger to the child.

"If we, and law enforcement, come to the conclusion that child safety is at risk, we work with prosecutors and the court to make the determination of whether that child should be put into foster care," Simnitt said.

If a child is taken into state care, the department develops a case plan for that child. That plan might include living with foster parents or with relatives.

"During that time the case is reviewed by the courts. We do try to work toward reunification when it's possible," Simnitt said.

The court also may order parents to take classes, or be evaluated for drug or mental health issues as part of the case plan, said Matt Hyde, who directs the Court Appointed Special Advocate Program, a nonprofit that matches a trained volunteer with every child in foster care.

Many custody cases involving possible child abuse don't go to criminal court and never become public. Even in cases that result in criminal charges, state records involving child custody remain sealed to protect the child.

WHY WAS ROBERT ALLOWED TO VISIT HIS MOTHER'S HOME?

The presence of numerous children in a household naturally complicates custody issues.

In many cases, if one child in a family is abused, all the children in that family are brought into the foster system, Hyde said.

At other times, that doesn't happen, in particular when parents are doing everything the court has told them to do and everything appears to be going well, he added.

"In a case like Jenkins', with both the civil custody case and the criminal case occurring last year, lots of time had passed, and there had been lots of progress. Which is not to defend the actions of the parents," Hyde said.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/localnews/story/860183.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 09, 2009, 05:46:25 AM
Community Continues to Honor Robert Manwill

(http://kivi.images.worldnow.com/images/10872528_BG1.jpg)
Before the green flag dropped and the cars were speeding around the track, there was a more somber mood at the Meridian Speedway. Racers and fans had a moment of silence to pay tribute to Robert Manwill and his family. Robert's mother and father were both there. Drivers also put green ribbons on their cars. On Robert's uncle Kyle Burrill's car was a poster of the nephew who used to watch him race. 

"He loves it, he loves racing," aunt Trish Burrill said about Robert. 

Hours before racers were peeling out at the speedway, a group of people hit the rain soaked streets of Boise to honor the murdered 8-year-old. They walked from the apartment complex where Robert was last seen alive to the Vista Avenue bridge over the New York Canal. That point along the canal is several miles upstream from where Robert's body was found August 3rd. The group made the trip 11 times, one for each day Robert was missing. The walk's organizers say they want to continue to show support for the Manwill family. 

"We talked to the aunt and uncle yesterday, and the mom," said Heather Fieseler, who helped organize the event. "It was really hard but we wanted to show them that we're doing this for you."

Both events had their own meaning to everyone who took part in them.

"It's sadness for me, but it's also closure for the community," said Michelle Walker, who participated in the walk.

But until the community knows exactly who, or what killed Robert, they likely won't be able to put this case behind them.
http://www.kivitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10872528


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 09, 2009, 05:48:20 AM
Neighbors walk 11 laps for Robert

Story Updated: Aug 8, 2009 at 7:26 PM MDT
By Jen Wahl

BOISE - The search for Robert Manwill is over, but the community is still reaching out in full force.

Neighbors Monica Dalton and Heather Fieseler weren't able to join any of the searches for Robert. But they still wanted to do something for the little boy and his family.

"Anybody can stand up in the community and show their support to anything," Fieseler said. "It doesn't have to be someone who knows the family."

Despite early morning puddles, Dalton, Fieseler and a few friends circled the same loop around Robert's apartment up to the top of Vista Ave. in Boise, 11 times.

"We picked this canal," Dalton said. "We live right down the street and we're just going to Targee, the Park Apartments, his memorial and back up."

The laps represented the 11 days Robert Manwill was missing and was away from his family.

"This is something serious that some people just brush off like it happens every day - but us, it really hurt us," she said.

One stop along the route was the boy's memorial, where volunteers were still cleaning and getting ready to donate Robert's toys to the Ronald McDonald House.

While heading back to Jackons, getting ready to start the fourth lap for Robert, Fieseler says although remembering the little boy is their number one priority, they also want to remind all parents to keep a close on eye on their little ones.
http://www.2news.tv/news/local/52798047.html
video at the link


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 09, 2009, 07:04:05 AM
(http://i26.tinypic.com/29opj0i.jpg)

Lighting a candle and saying a prayer for little man and his family.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 09, 2009, 10:41:54 AM
When I see the pictures of Robert's mother she truly looks like she is in deep grief for his loss.  Now I am beginning to wonder if it was the BF that did this on his own unbeknowst to her.  It would appear he is not there supporting her..and weren't there rumors he was out of the hospital now. 

Just so sad if she covered for him in the incident with the baby..instead of running away from him then and taking her kids. 

I pray that closure comes quickly with the apprehension of Robert's murderer.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: sunshine12 on August 09, 2009, 03:18:13 PM
im saying prayers for robert today as he is laid to rest.

i have read from a local who is aquantences with the family that the boyfriend is still at the mental hospital and that all family members were told to call 911 if they see him immediately.  i'm thinking they are gonna wait to arrest him until tomorow so they dont take any attention away from roberts special day today


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 09, 2009, 03:39:35 PM
im saying prayers for robert today as he is laid to rest.

i have read from a local who is aquantences with the family that the boyfriend is still at the mental hospital and that all family members were told to call 911 if they see him immediately.  i'm thinking they are gonna wait to arrest him until tomorow so they dont take any attention away from roberts special day today

He probably thinks he is safe hiding there. He isn't. They can go in and arrest anytime they want. He doesn't need to be released before an arrest is made.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 09, 2009, 03:52:52 PM
Robert Grant Manwill
2001 - 2009


Robert was born in June of 2001 in Boise, Idaho to Melissa Scott Jenkins and Charles Lee Manwill. His parents married in July of 2001. They made their home in Boise for a year. They then decided that they were just not meant to be together. Since both loved Robert with all their hearts they decided to part as friends and always put Robert first in the relationship and doing what was best for Robert. So until Robert was of age for school they split custody 50/50. Robert was extremely happy because he was able to spend equal time between both of his parent’s homes. They always showed the courtesy to each other that the other parent deserved. This helped Robert because Robert loved both of his parents more than anyone else in the world. When Robert started school he went to stay with his mom more so he was able to attend Head Start in Boise. Robert lived primarily with his mother until his mother experienced complications with the pregnancy of Robert’s little brother. So his mom decided to send him to live with his dad. Robert completed the first grade in New Plymouth. He also attended the second grade at the same school where he excelled in almost every subject and captured the hearts of a whole new community.

If you would like to learn more about Robert’s Life please visit his My Space Page at http://www.myspace.com/meetrobertmanwill

Robert was a well loved little boy. He is survived by his mother, Melissa Jenkins and her children Aidan and RayLynn of Boise Idaho; Melissa’s parents, Jeff and Dori Jenkins of Carlsbad, New Mexico; his father, Charles Manwill and his wife, Afton Manwill, and their children, Kenneth, Miranda, and Hailee; Afton’s parents, Mike and Jaylene Branson, all of New Plymouth, Idaho; and Charles’s mother, Joan Manwill, of Boise, Idaho. Robert also has numerous aunts, uncles and cousins all over the United States.

Although Robert’s life was cut short and he will be severely missed, Robert will not be alone. He has left us behind and gone into the loving arms of his paternal grandpa, Meryl, and his big brother, Michael. We know he will be taken care of in the next life because he will be with ones that will watch over and love him the way he deserves.

Memorial services will be held at 2:00 pm, Sunday, August 9, 2009 at Cloverdale Funeral Home with Pastor George Sova officiating.  Graveside internment services will follow at Cloverdale Memorial Park.

Memorial contributions may be made in Robert’s name to the Crime Victims Compensation Program, the Boise Police Department, or the Ronald McDonald House.

http://www.cloverdalefuneralhome.com/obituary.jsp?site=0502&id=48023
Guestbook to leave messages for the family.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 09, 2009, 03:54:48 PM
It it just me or did that whole first paragraph seem weird? It's more about Robert's parents and their relationship than Robert. I wonder who wrote it.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: can on August 09, 2009, 04:02:52 PM
It it just me or did that whole first paragraph seem weird? It's more about Robert's parents and their relationship than Robert. I wonder who wrote it.
pink angel I don't know, but possibly Robert's Dad, or someone on that side of the family since it mentions his older brother and Grandpa. I think the Dad lost a son during his first marriage.

R. I. P. little Robert.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 09, 2009, 04:04:16 PM
http://www.ktvb.com/video/?nvid=57412&live=yes

Funeral now streaming live.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: can on August 09, 2009, 04:04:18 PM
It it just me or did that whole first paragraph seem weird? It's more about Robert's parents and their relationship than Robert. I wonder who wrote it.
pink angel I don't know, but possibly Robert's Dad, or someone on that side of the family since it mentions his older brother and Grandpa. I think the Dad lost a son during his first marriage.

R. I. P. little Robert.

edit - older brother and Grandpa who are both deceased.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: can on August 09, 2009, 04:05:28 PM
http://www.ktvb.com/video/?nvid=57412&live=yes

Funeral now streaming live.
Thank you for the link.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 09, 2009, 04:25:35 PM
 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

The pastor speaking.
Said this shouldn't have happened. Wish we could have protected Robert.
Whoever done this had free will. Even homicidal minds have free will.

Robert's ashes.

Music so far. Amazing Grace.

The pastor is now reading letters from mom and dad.
Mom remembering the way he loved to eat ice cream and never made a mess.

Dad wants to kill the SOB who did this to Robert and mommy Afton has had to hold him back. He knows there is a special place in hell for anyone that could hurt a special little soul like Robert. He is with Grandpa and brother Michael. Little man was a gift.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 09, 2009, 04:27:39 PM
This has got to be one of the saddest funerals I've ever viewed. I hate to add this, but the letters the parents wrote were very disturbing.......


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 09, 2009, 04:28:00 PM
Teacher talking about what a wonderful little boy Robert was. He was thoughtful and loving and funny. He was a ray of sunshine. In his death he has become everyone's child.

My video has frozen, I still have sound.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 09, 2009, 04:45:20 PM
This has got to be one of the saddest funerals I've ever viewed. I hate to add this, but the letters the parents wrote were very disturbing.......
I'm sorry I just got on the thread now, do you mean the obituary or something else, letters that were being read at the funeral?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 09, 2009, 04:53:50 PM
Mom's letter was about memories of Robert. Funny stories and stuff. I was busy trying to do screencaps at the same time and didn't get it word for word sorry.

Dad's was about how much he loved him, what a gift he was, how is safe with Grandpa and Micheal but there was a lot of anger in his letter. I can't imagine the grief he is going through. This is the second time one of his children was murdered.

His teacher talked, shared stories. She adored him.

The Mayor of Plymouth talked. Spoke more about from a community standpoint rather than a personal level.

They then released doves. Dad released one, Mom released one and Afton and all his siblings released a bunch. It was beautiful and I wish my video hadn't froze up so I could get pictures.

They all then left to walk to the cemetery to lay Robert to rest.

It was a sad service. Seeing all his siblings in tears broke my heart.  ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

Rest in peace little man, you are an angel now. ::MonkeyAngel::






Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 09, 2009, 04:54:13 PM
This has got to be one of the saddest funerals I've ever viewed. I hate to add this, but the letters the parents wrote were very disturbing.......
I'm sorry I just got on the thread now, do you mean the obituary or something else, letters that were being read at the funeral?


Yes, the pastor read a letter written by the mother and then one by the father. There should be a video up soon of the entire funeral and you can hear what was said by each of them. There was alot of anger in the father's letter which I can understand but hearing it as part of the eulogy is something I've never seen before. The mother noted some moments in time with Robert that were just bizarre for the funeral. She actually talked about a young Robert saying he needed to poop when taken out of the water......weird......


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 09, 2009, 06:02:49 PM
Mom's letter was about memories of Robert. Funny stories and stuff. I was busy trying to do screencaps at the same time and didn't get it word for word sorry.

Dad's was about how much he loved him, what a gift he was, how is safe with Grandpa and Micheal but there was a lot of anger in his letter. I can't imagine the grief he is going through. This is the second time one of his children was murdered.

His teacher talked, shared stories. She adored him.

The Mayor of Plymouth talked. Spoke more about from a community standpoint rather than a personal level.

They then released doves. Dad released one, Mom released one and Afton and all his siblings released a bunch. It was beautiful and I wish my video hadn't froze up so I could get pictures.

They all then left to walk to the cemetery to lay Robert to rest.

It was a sad service. Seeing all his siblings in tears broke my heart.  ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

Rest in peace little man, you are an angel now. ::MonkeyAngel::





Thank-you, I'm sure dad has a lot of anger, should it be said at Robert's funeral, I guess he thought it was the right thing to do, maybe he just couldn't help himself, and I can't blame him.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 09, 2009, 06:05:13 PM
This has got to be one of the saddest funerals I've ever viewed. I hate to add this, but the letters the parents wrote were very disturbing.......
I'm sorry I just got on the thread now, do you mean the obituary or something else, letters that were being read at the funeral?


Yes, the pastor read a letter written by the mother and then one by the father. There should be a video up soon of the entire funeral and you can hear what was said by each of them. There was alot of anger in the father's letter which I can understand but hearing it as part of the eulogy is something I've never seen before. The mother noted some moments in time with Robert that were just bizarre for the funeral. She actually talked about a young Robert saying he needed to poop when taken out of the water......weird......
Okay that is strange. I will admit any funeral I've been too never heard anger, stories, of course, but I guess to them it was appropriate.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 09, 2009, 06:05:59 PM
Thanks for the pictures  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: sunshine12 on August 09, 2009, 07:07:41 PM
i read this from a poster on another forum who was at the funeral:

I ended up staying for the entire funeral as well as went to the gravesite with those who attended that part. I have to say that it was a powerful funeral. I dont normally cry for things like this. I did great until the reading of the letters. That was so hard for me. I have to say that after seeing MJ in person both last night and today I think her grief is genuine. What you get when you know a camera is on you and you have to look the part is very much the same look when there are no cameras on her. I think the part that sealed it for me was after the service when people were starting to leave she was standing with a small group of family. All the sudden she lost it and ran over to some older man who had to literally catch her from falling to the ground. It was like the shock had finally moved aside and the reality of her son being gone hit. It goes back to those who said everyone handles grief different. I think no matter who you are there is some sort of shock your body goes into for protection.

My daughter was the only thing separating me from DE father. This man was a huge mess. I think in the end his may face losing not only this child, but his children to the prison system. For those of you who have mentioned DE brother may have been involved you may be onto something. The first thing I noticed is he was NOT there at the funeral. Not even there to be with his own father. For me that was very very telling. At first I didnt think he had anything to do with it, but after today I am thinking he very well might have been the accomplice in getting rid of the body. There was just something in the way he kept looking over towards MJ and the tears and pain in his eyes. It was almost like a "Im so sorry my boys did this to you" kind of look. It was like in his eyes were telling a story. I really cant explain it. I did overhear someone mention that right after all this happened his house was searched upside down. Now that might be because DE kept accusing him or it could have been because they were looking into the brother.


I just want to add that my heart broke in a million pieces for the brother. I have not seen any links yet so I dont know what view others had, but watching his brother stand up there crying alone made me want to run up and hug him. I was kind of unpset with the spep mom. IMO the least she could have done when she saw the older brother falling apart was go to him. He never should have cried alone as long as he did. Eventually the woman next to him stepped over and held him, but I was upset he had to deal with his pain alone. No wonder his myspace is so dark. Both Roberts parents and step mom were all standing together with CM holding both their hands. They do genuinely seem united. He doesnt stand with her like he suspects her of anything. Maybe he is part of why DE has stayed away. He knows CM wants his blood



heres the link:
http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4031282&postcount=558


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: atlanta_mom on August 09, 2009, 07:26:22 PM
how old is Robert's brother?  I just can't imagine what  pain/anger the brother and father must be going through now.  So much tragedy in one family.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 09, 2009, 07:34:52 PM
Robert Manwill's funeral draws nearly 500 mourners

05:03 PM MDT on Sunday, August 9, 2009
http://www.ktvb.com/news/nearyou/boise/ktvbn-aug0909-manwill_funeral.c484a3d9.html



BOISE -- With so many questions still unanswered, the family of Robert Manwill, and the community at large, sought closure Sunday afternoon at the funeral of the slain child.

Nearly 500 people attended the funeral of Manwill, the little boy who bonded a community, at the Cloverdale Funeral Home.

There is nothing more tragic nor more difficult to understand than the death of a child, especially one complicated by homicide. Sunday was a tearful coming together of those who feel this loss the most.

"I believe Robert Manwill should be remembered as Boise's peace child.  What began as a community search for a missing child and ended in the discovery of the tragic death of sweet innocent boy has brought an entire community together," said Pastor George Sova.

The ceremony took place at 2 p.m. and featured speakers such as Manwill’s teacher who talked about a little boy who loved life.

"Today we have gathered here with a shared grief. I imagine there's a lot of shock, dismay. We're stunned, how could this happen." Sova said. “It wasn't anyone's fault that he wasn't found. It wasn't Robert's fault, it wasn't anyone's fault. And family, I want you to hear this well, it was someone made a choice...someone made a dark dreadful choice....to take his life." Sova said.

Sova also read letters from Manwill’s parents, detailing some of their memories of Robert and their desire to have his killer found. Manwill’s family and loved ones then released doves, which Sova said was a symbolic tribute to Manwill’s spirit.

“As Robert's dove soars over the horizon and out sight we can softly whisper, there. He is gone, but we can be sure that over that horizon, other's will look to the sky and joyfully exclaim, ‘look, here he comes’,” Sova said.

Following the dove release there was a procession to the nearby cemetery where Manwill's ashes were laid to rest.

While this is an end to a chapter this story is far from over as the criminal investigation into his death continues.

So far, police have not named any suspects or persons of interest.

Sova talked at the service about the need to serve justice in this case.

“The search continues not for Robert but for his perpetrator and as we speak law enforcement agencies across the board are working diligently seeking to solve this horrendous crime against an innocent child... so that it will not end on a shelf of unsolved mysteries somewhere,” Sova said.

Police have not released any details about its investigation so far.

Police say the family is cooperating with the investigation.

(http://www.ktvb.com/news/nearyou/boise/L_IMAGE.1223cc986ef.93.88.fa.d0.c4865ad3.jpg)



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 09, 2009, 08:02:25 PM
Very interesting Sunshine, and thanks for all the articles  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 09, 2009, 10:18:49 PM
Thanks sunshine and Leroy for the updates.

Here is the only video I found so far. It's video of the family releasing the doves, which was breathtaking.
http://www.ktvb.com/video/index.html?nvid=387597


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 09, 2009, 10:28:52 PM
Several hundred say goodbye to Robert Manwill
Kathleen Kreller - Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/09/09

Robert Manwill was laid to rest Sunday as white doves wheeled over head and family members wept.

Several hundred people turned out to the funeral at Boise's Cloverdale Funeral Home and Memorial Park; a small percentage of the community members who searched, held vigils and felt connected to the 8-year-old boy who was killed.

"You were a little light in a dark and cruel world and you were taken from us too soon," Charles Manwill wrote in a letter to his son read by a local pastor during Sunday's service. "...These last two weeks have proven that Boise is the city of brotherly love. Our family grown by thousands of people in last two weeks."

Family members, including Robert's siblings, released white doves during the outdoor service. Country music songs — Robert's favorites — also were featured.

Manwill went missing on July 24 from his mother's apartment complex off of Vista Avenue. He was found on Aug. 3 in the New York Canal near Kuna. Thousands in the community helped search for Robert Manwill.

The Ada County Coroner's Office said Robert's death was a homicide, and Boise police officials said the boy was not abducted by a stranger. Police continue an investigation into the child's death.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/860679.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 09, 2009, 10:35:28 PM
Hundreds Gather To Say Farewell To Robert Manwill
   
BOISE, IDAHO--

The family of Robert Manwill carrying his remains walks in to one of Robert's favorite songs. Two weeks after the 8-year-old disappeared from his home, he is being laid to rest. Family members welcomed the entire community to share in the life of the young boy who managed to capture the hearts of many. The ceremony honored the boy's life. The family full of emotion did not speak publicly but Robert's mother, Melissa Jenkins and his father Chuck Manwill wrote the last words to their son on paper. It was read by the pastor.

"Robert I will always love you and I will always be thinking of you. Mommy"

"Robert you were a little light in a dark and cruel world and you were taking from us long before your time on this earth should have ended", words of Chuck Manwill.

Robert Manwill touched so many lives and that includes the many people who knew him in New Plymouth. His teacher Christie Morales fought to hold back tears as she spoke about the young boy who loved to hug.

"And as for today we can assure that God and all his angels are getting lots of hugs from Robert. We love you and miss you Robert", says Morales.

The ceremony ended with family members releasing a sea of white doves and green balloons, Robert's favorite color.

http://www.kivitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10874363
(http://kivi.images.worldnow.com/images/10874363_BG1.jpg)

Video with the story
http://www.kivitv.com/global/Category.asp?c=169854&autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=4028188&flvUri=




Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cookie on August 09, 2009, 10:57:23 PM
When I see the pictures of Robert's mother she truly looks like she is in deep grief for his loss.  Now I am beginning to wonder if it was the BF that did this on his own unbeknowst to her.  It would appear he is not there supporting her..and weren't there rumors he was out of the hospital now. 

Just so sad if she covered for him in the incident with the baby..instead of running away from him then and taking her kids. 

I pray that closure comes quickly with the apprehension of Robert's murderer.

she does seem genuine in her grief...It could have been the boyfriend who harmed Aiden as well as Robert...the mom could have taken the blame for the baby's injuries...

the boyfriend was not at the funeral from what I read on here correct? and how many siblings did Robert have on each side of his families?  Is the  older boy in black the brother who was left standing alone to cry? sad...


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 09, 2009, 11:03:50 PM
cookie,

he has a half brother and sister that are Melissa's children
he also has two half sisters and an older half brother that are Charles. the two little girls are his and Afton's.

His older brother is the one in black with the red tie.

and then his brother Micheal that is in heaven with little man.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 09, 2009, 11:05:14 PM
When I see the pictures of Robert's mother she truly looks like she is in deep grief for his loss.  Now I am beginning to wonder if it was the BF that did this on his own unbeknowst to her.  It would appear he is not there supporting her..and weren't there rumors he was out of the hospital now. 

Just so sad if she covered for him in the incident with the baby..instead of running away from him then and taking her kids. 

I pray that closure comes quickly with the apprehension of Robert's murderer.

she does seem genuine in her grief...It could have been the boyfriend who harmed Aiden as well as Robert...the mom could have taken the blame for the baby's injuries...

the boyfriend was not at the funeral from what I read on here correct? and how many siblings did Robert have on each side of his families?  Is the  older boy in black the brother who was left standing alone to cry? sad...

Last word BF Danny is still in the mental hospital. His dad was at the funeral today. "grandpops".


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 10, 2009, 03:10:22 AM
A letter from Melissa Jenkins to her son, Robert Manwill.

"Robert, it's Mommy.

I want to tell you I love you. Robert, I dearly miss you.

My favorite times with you were just laying on the couch watching 'Tom and Jerry.' Watching you play on the swings. Listening to you make silly raps. How you could eat ice cream and not make a mess is beyond me.

I loved to watch you jump in the mud puddles and go swimming.

But my memory that I will hold tightly is of you in the ocean. You were frolicking in the waves and shrieking with delight when I called for you. And so Mommy had to hold you and you screamed.

Then you had to go poo and you almost pooed on Papa's feet.

So as you go and make your journey to a wonderful place in Heaven, I will always remember you playing in the ocean, shrieking with such delight and joy.

Robert I will always love you and I will always be thinking of you.

Mommy."

Letter from Charles Manwill to his son, Robert Manwill.

"Robert,

You were a little light in a dark and cruel world. And you were taken from us long before your life on this earth should have ended.

I remember before you were even born, talking to your mom on the phone late at night and she would hold the phone to her belly so I could say good night to our little sunshine. That's the way it was even before we knew that you would be a baby boy.

You touched the lives of everyone you ever met with your exuberance for life. I would simply explain to them that you were 100 pounds of energy packed into 50 pounds of body.

I know that you were not in any way perfect, you had your faults just like the rest of us, from that annoying in-your-face attitude to your insatiable need to add your two cents to every conversation, even when you had no idea what we were talking about.

However, once someone met you, there was no forgetting the name Robert. Because someone was always yelling your name and telling you not to do this or not to do that.

Later, you had such a special way of touching people's hearts in such a way it was so easy to overlook your shortcomings and love you for just being you.

For hundreds of years, Philadelphia has been known as the 'City of Brotherly Love.' But these last two weeks have proven beyond any doubt that Boise is the City of Brotherly Love.

You have always had a large family, Robert, both immediate and extended. But over these last two weeks your family has grown by literally thousands of people.

I remember how when you would get into trouble or even when you simply didn't get your way, you would always claim that 'This is the worst day ever!'

You would say this over the most minor things that were truly laughable such as actually having to finish your homework, or writing your spelling words to practice your handwriting.

Son, July 24, 2009, was the worst day ever.

That is the day that someone ended the beautiful little man that you were.

My first reaction was to find the low-life SOB and make him suffer in oh so many ways for the horrible crime he perpetrated against you.

Mom Afton holds me back and reminds me that this family can't afford to lose another member in pointless revenge. Especially since it will not bring you back to us. And we need to let the police and the FBI do their job, a job that they do well.

We need to allow the justice system to do their job and bring the bastard to justice.

You know, I am not a religious man. And many times I don't believe in God. But I do know and believe there is a special place in Hell for anyone who could hurt such a special little soul like you and rob the world of your shining light.

Rest assured, Robert, that while your remains are being held close to your grandfather's chest, with your brother Michael at your side, rest assured that the police will continue to work tirelessly until they are able to bring the justice you need and make the one responsible for taking you from us ... to the maximum extent that the law will allow.

I need you to know, Robert, we will never, ever forget the time we were allowed to know you. You were a gift, though extremely short. You will always be in our hearts.

=================
Treasure Valley mourns 'everyone's child' Robert Manwill
Robert, surrounded by family, is buried with his grandfather and half-brother


BY KATHLEEN KRELLER - kkreller@idahostatesman.com
Copyright: © 2009 Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/10/09

The community that searched for a missing 8-year-old boy came out for him one last time Sunday as his father promised justice for his son's killer.

Robert Manwill was laid to rest as white doves circled over head and family members wept.

"I believe that Robert Manwill should be remembered as Boise's peace child," said Pastor George Sova, who led the service. "... As a community, we will not let Robert Manwill's death be in vain."

Several hundred - including a contingent of the Idaho National Guard in dress uniform - turned out for the funeral at Boise's Cloverdale Funeral Home and Memorial Park, a small percentage of the thousands who searched, held vigils and found themselves connected to the child with a reputation for impishness.

Black-clad pallbearers carried a glass-encased urn containing Robert's ashes that sat in in front of the crowd. Sova called on those gathered to connect as a community with "an outpouring of love."

Sova read a letter from Robert's mother, Melissa Jenkins, and a fierce letter from his father, Charles Manwill.

"My memory that I will hold tightly is of you in the ocean," Jenkins wrote. "You were frolicking in the waves and shrieking with delight."

Charles Manwill spoke of his family growing by "thousands of people in the last two weeks," and called Boise the true "City of Brotherly Love."

Manwill also expressed confidence in members of the Boise Police Department and FBI, who are working to solve the mystery surrounding Robert's disappearance and death.

"My first reaction was to find the lowlife SOB and make him suffer in oh so many ways for the horrible crime he perpetrated against you," Manwill wrote. "Mom Afton holds me back and reminds me that this family can't afford to lose another member in pointless revenge. Especially since it will not bring you back to us."

Christie Morales, Robert's elementary school teacher from New Plymouth, remembered her "rambunctious" student as being full of love and very verbal for his age.

"In his death, he became everyone's child," Morales said. "... God and all of his angels are getting lots of hugs from Robert. We love you and we miss you."

Family members, including Robert's siblings, kissed and whispered to white doves before releasing them to carry messages to Robert during Sunday's outdoor service. Raucous country music songs - Robert's favorites - also were featured.

The family and guests proceeded to a gravesite, where they buried the child with his grandfather and half-brother, Charles Manwill's son, Michael, who was stabbed to death in 1993 by another ex-wife.

Marcy Simily of Boise came to the graveside service late on Sunday. Her co-workers had helped in the search for Robert.

"It is so sad," Simily said. "I wanted to pay my respects."

Sue Pearce of Nampa called the service beautiful.

"He is going to heaven on wings of doves," Pearce said while tearing up. "I have family in Florida, and they have watched and watched and watched this."

Robert Manwill lived primarily with his father and stepmother, Afton, in New Plymouth.

He was visiting the Vista Avenue-area apartment of his mother and her boyfriend, Daniel Ehrlick Jr., when he went missing on July 24. Police, Idaho National Guard members and thousands of residents searched for the boy.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/robertmanwill/story/860857.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 10, 2009, 04:20:37 AM
Funeral of Robert Manwill - video
http://video.ap.org/?f=IDNCP&pid=AdFjGkwHea_4Ua1HXwYo9zdWLDjDntaM


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 10, 2009, 10:38:53 AM
Thanks Pink!  Now that Robert has been laid to rest, I hope today is the day that the person/people who are responsible are arrested.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cookie on August 10, 2009, 10:42:46 AM
me too Leroy!!!


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 10, 2009, 10:45:03 AM
Thanks Pink!  Now that Robert has been laid to rest, I hope today is the day that the person/people who are responsible are arrested.
Me too. And thanks for all the articles and pictures. I will say also that Robert's mom looked genuine, but I have been fooled by people on several occasions, so I will wait and see what develops.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 10, 2009, 11:29:19 AM
Thanks Pink!  Now that Robert has been laid to rest, I hope today is the day that the person/people who are responsible are arrested.
Me too. And thanks for all the articles and pictures. I will say also that Robert's mom looked genuine, but I have been fooled by people on several occasions, so I will wait and see what develops.

I agree Mom looked genuine but I think she knows and played some part in this.  To what degree, I'm not sure.  JMO


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 10, 2009, 06:36:59 PM
Thanks Pink!  Now that Robert has been laid to rest, I hope today is the day that the person/people who are responsible are arrested.
Me too. And thanks for all the articles and pictures. I will say also that Robert's mom looked genuine, but I have been fooled by people on several occasions, so I will wait and see what develops.

I agree Mom looked genuine but I think she knows and played some part in this.  To what degree, I'm not sure.  JMO

Ditto. JMO

Robert Manwill's Family Says Goodbye

Boise, Idaho -- After weeks of heartbreak, Robert Manwill has been laid to rest.

He may be gone, but Manwill is surely not forgotten. In yet another emotional show of support, hundreds came out to pay their final respects to the community's lost little boy.

"He was lost and now he's found. He's going to heaven for sure," said Selena Ashby, who attended Manwill's funeral.

"I was hopeful that it wouldn't come to this. I wanted the little boy to be found and returned home. I didn't want to see this," said Michelle Clifford who also attended the funeral.

A letter from Manwill's mother, read by Pastor George Sova, spoke of her favorite memory of him swimming in the ocean.

"As you go and make your journey that wonderful place in heaven I will always remember you playing in the ocean," wrote Manwill's mom.

And this from his father, who said Manwill was 100 pounds of energy in a 50 pound body -- a light in a dark world.

"I remember before you were even born talking to your mom on the phone late at night and she would hold this phone to her belly so I could say good night to our little sunshine, " he wrote.

Manwill's teacher spoke about his "ambush hugs" at school, surprise embraces when all of the sudden she would feel little arms around her back.

"When you spend seven hours a day, five days a week with someone you get attached, " said a teary Christie Morales.

To symbolize his spirit, Manwills loved ones released solid white doves. Then led a procession to the burial site where his ashes will lay just above his grandfathers.

"We promise you that Robert will never be forgotten that's a guarantee," said Suezette Maderi who attended the funeral. 

While many are calling this funeral closure for Manwill, the investigation into his death is far from over. In Manwill's father's letter he expressed a need for justice -- to find the person responsible.

For now there are no suspects, although police have called his death a homicide.

http://www.fox12idaho.com/Global/story.asp?S=10874716&nav=menu439_2
video at the link
(http://ktrv.images.worldnow.com/images/10874716_BG1.jpg)


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 10, 2009, 08:50:08 PM
Oh my goodness..I was not on today until now.

I was wso hoping with the funeral over the police had arrested the person (s) respondible.

I do not want this to become a cold case where no one pays dor the injustice that they reaped upon Robert's soul.  He deserved to live out his life..as we all so..someone is responsible..someone needs to pay.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 10, 2009, 08:51:25 PM
Sorry about the mis-spellings..myfault.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Tina Bee on August 10, 2009, 08:51:53 PM
Thanks Pink!  Now that Robert has been laid to rest, I hope today is the day that the person/people who are responsible are arrested.
Me too. And thanks for all the articles and pictures. I will say also that Robert's mom looked genuine, but I have been fooled by people on several occasions, so I will wait and see what develops.

I agree Mom looked genuine but I think she knows and played some part in this.  To what degree, I'm not sure.  JMO

Ditto. JMO

Robert Manwill's Family Says Goodbye

Boise, Idaho -- After weeks of heartbreak, Robert Manwill has been laid to rest.

He may be gone, but Manwill is surely not forgotten. In yet another emotional show of support, hundreds came out to pay their final respects to the community's lost little boy.

"He was lost and now he's found. He's going to heaven for sure," said Selena Ashby, who attended Manwill's funeral.

"I was hopeful that it wouldn't come to this. I wanted the little boy to be found and returned home. I didn't want to see this," said Michelle Clifford who also attended the funeral.

A letter from Manwill's mother, read by Pastor George Sova, spoke of her favorite memory of him swimming in the ocean.

"As you go and make your journey that wonderful place in heaven I will always remember you playing in the ocean," wrote Manwill's mom.

And this from his father, who said Manwill was 100 pounds of energy in a 50 pound body -- a light in a dark world.

"I remember before you were even born talking to your mom on the phone late at night and she would hold this phone to her belly so I could say good night to our little sunshine, " he wrote.

Manwill's teacher spoke about his "ambush hugs" at school, surprise embraces when all of the sudden she would feel little arms around her back.

"When you spend seven hours a day, five days a week with someone you get attached, " said a teary Christie Morales.

To symbolize his spirit, Manwills loved ones released solid white doves. Then led a procession to the burial site where his ashes will lay just above his grandfathers.

"We promise you that Robert will never be forgotten that's a guarantee," said Suezette Maderi who attended the funeral. 

While many are calling this funeral closure for Manwill, the investigation into his death is far from over. In Manwill's father's letter he expressed a need for justice -- to find the person responsible.

For now there are no suspects, although police have called his death a homicide.

http://www.fox12idaho.com/Global/story.asp?S=10874716&nav=menu439_2
video at the link
(http://ktrv.images.worldnow.com/images/10874716_BG1.jpg)

That article made me tear up....RIP little man!


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 10, 2009, 09:10:10 PM
Missing Idaho boy found in canal laid to rest
 - The Associated Press
Published: 08/10/09

BOISE, Idaho — An 8-year-old boy who was missing for more than a week before his body was found floating in a canal has been laid to rest at a Boise cemetery.

Nearly 500 members of the community and an Idaho National Guard contingent attended a public memorial service for Robert Manwill on Sunday at the Cloverdale Funeral Home and Memorial Park.

The group represented a portion of the 2,330 community volunteers who helped search for the boy, who disappeared July 24 after leaving his mother's apartment in Boise.

"It is so sad," said Boise resident Marcy Simily, who attended the service. The boy lived with his father, Charles Manwill, in New Plymouth and was visiting his mother the night he vanished.

The death is an active homicide investigation and there is no evidence the boy was abducted by a stranger, according to the Boise Police Department.

Authorities have not named any suspects.

At the funeral, family members wept as white doves were released and circled above the crowd.

"How could this happen," said Pastor George Sova, who led the service. "It wasn't anyone's fault that he wasn't found. It wasn't Robert's fault, it wasn't anyone's fault."

Sova read letters from the boy's father and mother, Melissa Jenkins.

"My memory that I will hold tightly is of you in the ocean. You were frolicking in the waves and shrieking in delight, and you didn't want to come out of the water," Jenkins wrote.

Charles Manwill wrote about his son's exuberance for life and reminisced that he would tell people the boy was "100 pounds of energy packed into 50 pounds of body."

Funeral services for the boy were held in the same cemetery where his grandfather and half-brother, Michael, were laid to rest.

Charles Manwill's former wife stabbed their son, 4-year-old Michael, in the chest in 1993. Silke Fatma Manwill pleaded guilty to voluntary manslaughter and served time in federal prison before being released in 2002.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/531/story/861257.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 11, 2009, 12:57:11 AM
(http://i26.tinypic.com/29opj0i.jpg)

Lighting a candle and saying a prayer for little man and his family.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m

Lighting a candle and saying a prayer for justice for little man and his family.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 11, 2009, 08:52:24 AM
Thanks for bringing that forward Pink.

I was sure they would have someone in custody by now.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cookie on August 11, 2009, 09:00:28 AM
Thanks for bringing that forward Pink.

I was sure they would have someone in custody by now.

the day isn't over yet Leroy! it could still happen today!


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: luvmyboys on August 11, 2009, 09:38:23 AM
I was also thinking someone would be arrested by now. I was really thinking it would be little roberts moms bf. I just knew that he would be arrested. Yesterday. I just feel like he is the one. But I could be wrong I have been wrong so many times before.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 11, 2009, 03:13:21 PM
I am here once again praying that Robert's muderer will be arrested.  I really thought they would have someone behind bars by now.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 11, 2009, 03:27:11 PM
Perhaps they are waiting for forensics to come back? I am praying for an arrest soon.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 11, 2009, 05:29:27 PM
Perhaps they are waiting for forensics to come back? I am praying for an arrest soon.
That's what I'm thinking, and is the boyfriend still in the hospital? Either way LE is watching him I'm sure.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 11, 2009, 07:36:32 PM
Perhaps they are waiting for forensics to come back? I am praying for an arrest soon.
::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 11, 2009, 09:08:30 PM
I don't know the specifics on the laws in Idaho.  I do know that if this man is in a mental institution that if he confessed to a doctor or counselor they could bring in the family..his Dad and Mom and have him tell them.  At that point it is up to the parents to do the right thing and turn him in.  Usually..and this has happened in the past..the family doesn't go to LE right away.  They let the counselors and doctors work with the person..to prepare them for this event and what ensues.  This helps the family do the right thing..they feel they have done what they can for their family member..and the doctors and counselors are off the hook for not going to LE with the confession.

Maybe this is what is going to happen. I hope so.  I know the BF's Dad , if he knew for certain his son was involved, would do the right thing.  His heart is as broken as is the family.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 11, 2009, 09:13:58 PM
I don't know the specifics on the laws in Idaho.  I do know that if this man is in a mental institution that if he confessed to a doctor or counselor they could bring in the family..his Dad and Mom and have him tell them.  At that point it is up to the parents to do the right thing and turn him in.  Usually..and this has happened in the past..the family doesn't go to LE right away.  They let the counselors and doctors work with the person..to prepare them for this event and what ensues.  This helps the family do the right thing..they feel they have done what they can for their family member..and the doctors and counselors are off the hook for not going to LE with the confession.

Maybe this is what is going to happen. I hope so.  I know the BF's Dad , if he knew for certain his son was involved, would do the right thing.  His heart is as broken as is the family.
That is good to know, I sure hope this is what happens.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 12, 2009, 03:07:06 AM
(http://i26.tinypic.com/29opj0i.jpg)

Lighting a candle and saying a prayer for little man and his family.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m

Lighting a candle and saying a prayer for justice for little man and his family.

 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Tina Bee on August 12, 2009, 05:14:54 AM
I don't know the specifics on the laws in Idaho.  I do know that if this man is in a mental institution that if he confessed to a doctor or counselor they could bring in the family..his Dad and Mom and have him tell them.  At that point it is up to the parents to do the right thing and turn him in.  Usually..and this has happened in the past..the family doesn't go to LE right away.  They let the counselors and doctors work with the person..to prepare them for this event and what ensues.  This helps the family do the right thing..they feel they have done what they can for their family member..and the doctors and counselors are off the hook for not going to LE with the confession.

Maybe this is what is going to happen. I hope so.  I know the BF's Dad , if he knew for certain his son was involved, would do the right thing.  His heart is as broken as is the family.

That's reassuring to know that the boyfriend's dad would do the right thing.

I just hope justice for Robert is served.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 12, 2009, 08:40:25 AM
Citizen volunteers train for emergencies in Pocatello
Story Updated: Aug 11, 2009 at 5:49 PM MDT
By Wes Horrocks POCATELLO -

In the last few weeks thousands of people helped search for Robert Manwill, the missing 8-year-old Boise boy.

As part of an on-going training program, citizen volunteers in Pocatello were taught what they could do to help if a similar tragedy struck the Gate City. Brent Dustin, a new CERT Team Member said, "It can happen anyplace, anytime."

The mock emergency happening Tuesday is that a plastic baby is hidden somewhere in this field.

Members of the Community Emergency Response Team (CERT) are learning how to search a large area for clues. Judy Harris, a third-year CERT Team Member said, "You can learn so much out of a book, but you really need to do it to get the feel of it and the practice."

And the exercise was a success. The CERT team found all nine hidden items; including a handgun, knife, baby clothes, and victim. Dustin said, "The more training you have the better job you can do. You learn your teammates, your squad, what you're doing, and you have some idea of what to start on."

While Tuesday's search was obviously staged, the Police Department has used volunteers in the past to help them find evidence.

And having a group of people go through the CERT training makes them even more effective in the future if they're needed. Kim Ellis, Pocatello Police Department Community Services Division said, "We're training them. They're familiar with us, and we're familiar with them. In an emergency we could instantly augment ourselves by 25 or 30 people."

An immense benefit considering all of the team members are volunteering their time. Harris said, "There aren't a lot of people that are trained to do this, and hopefully we'll be able to help."

But most are hoping it never actually comes to that.

So far the CERT team has not been called out during an emergency, but the Police Department is confident team members are prepared if the need arises.

To become a member of the CERT team you need to pass a criminal background check.

http://www.kidk.com/news/local/52995082.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cookie on August 12, 2009, 11:30:09 AM
having training for the search team is a great idea...


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 12, 2009, 12:13:28 PM
I don't know the specifics on the laws in Idaho.  I do know that if this man is in a mental institution that if he confessed to a doctor or counselor they could bring in the family..his Dad and Mom and have him tell them.  At that point it is up to the parents to do the right thing and turn him in.  Usually..and this has happened in the past..the family doesn't go to LE right away.  They let the counselors and doctors work with the person..to prepare them for this event and what ensues.  This helps the family do the right thing..they feel they have done what they can for their family member..and the doctors and counselors are off the hook for not going to LE with the confession.

Maybe this is what is going to happen. I hope so.  I know the BF's Dad , if he knew for certain his son was involved, would do the right thing.  His heart is as broken as is the family.

That's reassuring to know that the boyfriend's dad would do the right thing.

I just hope justice for Robert is served.

Sorry I really did not mean to mislead people.  The way I wrote that sounds like I personaly know the BF's Dad.  I do not know him, I don't even live in that part of the country.  I should of said I believe that the BF's Dad would do the right thing.
Sorry for any confusion..it is just what I think he would do..not that I know him or know for certain he would turn his son.   


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 12, 2009, 04:23:48 PM
I don't know the specifics on the laws in Idaho.  I do know that if this man is in a mental institution that if he confessed to a doctor or counselor they could bring in the family..his Dad and Mom and have him tell them.  At that point it is up to the parents to do the right thing and turn him in.  Usually..and this has happened in the past..the family doesn't go to LE right away.  They let the counselors and doctors work with the person..to prepare them for this event and what ensues.  This helps the family do the right thing..they feel they have done what they can for their family member..and the doctors and counselors are off the hook for not going to LE with the confession.

Maybe this is what is going to happen. I hope so.  I know the BF's Dad , if he knew for certain his son was involved, would do the right thing.  His heart is as broken as is the family.

That's reassuring to know that the boyfriend's dad would do the right thing.

I just hope justice for Robert is served.

Sorry I really did not mean to mislead people.  The way I wrote that sounds like I personaly know the BF's Dad.  I do not know him, I don't even live in that part of the country.  I should of said I believe that the BF's Dad would do the right thing.
Sorry for any confusion..it is just what I think he would do..not that I know him or know for certain he would turn his son.   


Gypsy,
I don't have faith in the BF's dad that you do. He clearly is an enabler, IMO.
Paying his son's bills. Talking like Melissa was the bad guy and not saying one bad thing about his son, even though his son threw him under the bus to LE and tried to blame Robert's disappearance on him.

I don't think he would do the right thing. I think guilt would bother him but in the end he'd choose protecting his son over doing the right thing.

Just my opinion.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 12, 2009, 08:11:58 PM
I don't know the specifics on the laws in Idaho.  I do know that if this man is in a mental institution that if he confessed to a doctor or counselor they could bring in the family..his Dad and Mom and have him tell them.  At that point it is up to the parents to do the right thing and turn him in.  Usually..and this has happened in the past..the family doesn't go to LE right away.  They let the counselors and doctors work with the person..to prepare them for this event and what ensues.  This helps the family do the right thing..they feel they have done what they can for their family member..and the doctors and counselors are off the hook for not going to LE with the confession.

Maybe this is what is going to happen. I hope so.  I know the BF's Dad , if he knew for certain his son was involved, would do the right thing.  His heart is as broken as is the family.

That's reassuring to know that the boyfriend's dad would do the right thing.

I just hope justice for Robert is served.

Sorry I really did not mean to mislead people.  The way I wrote that sounds like I personaly know the BF's Dad.  I do not know him, I don't even live in that part of the country.  I should of said I believe that the BF's Dad would do the right thing.
Sorry for any confusion..it is just what I think he would do..not that I know him or know for certain he would turn his son.   


Gypsy,
I don't have faith in the BF's dad that you do. He clearly is an enabler, IMO.
Paying his son's bills. Talking like Melissa was the bad guy and not saying one bad thing about his son, even though his son threw him under the bus to LE and tried to blame Robert's disappearance on him.

I don't think he would do the right thing. I think guilt would bother him but in the end he'd choose protecting his son over doing the right thing.

Just my opinion.

Pink you know what..you are probably right.  I think his Dad has been an enabler.  I wonder if that was for his son..or for Robert to have a decent place to live when he was with his Mom i the summer.  That is something we don't know..but thinking it over...I just pray someone with some info has enough love for Robert to come forward with the truth.

And still no arrest..why?  Someone knows more then they have said and needs to start talking.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: eyespy73 on August 13, 2009, 01:59:04 PM
This message was sent before Robert Manwill was found dead. Why did we receive no response from anybody after several , and i do mean several attempts  to offer our assistance for no charge at all to the family. We offer FREE Missing Persons Investigations to all residents in the Treasure Valley and we never received any responses. Why would any law enforcement agency refuse help from other trained professionals who specialize in these types of investigations? Whats really going on ? This is not a competition or a game we were offerring our help for free. If finding the missing is really law enforcement agencies (of all kind) top priority, shouldn't and wouldn't they welcome help? who in the world would not/ LET'S FIND THE MISSING

Hi,
My name is Dan Landis owner of D.L. INVESTIGATING LLC. I recently offered my services to the boy's mother FREE of charge, we specialize in missing person's cases and know we can help. I left a note and a business card on her door Wednesday night, However, Thursday the police were all over that place and I never recieved a call. Did the mother ever recieve the note offering our help to find the boy, or did the police just take it off and disregard our offer? This seems very strange to me as any mother in the world would want more help, and the police keep brushing our agency off every time we offer our help. Whats going on????????? This is not a competition and we just want to help the family. We did the Racheal Walsh case in meridian Last year Free of Charge as well, Thats what we do, we are not putting down local police, we are offering additional help for the boy's family and just wish to know why our attempts have gone nowhere and why the mother did not respond to our note. I find it hard to believe after hearing the chief say " finding Robert is our top priority " that law enforcement and lead investigators would not welcome more help. If you can help us so we can help you and the boy please contact us. This is about a little boy not about the rest of us.  God bless you
 
Dan Landis PI.
D.L. INVESTIGATING LLC
boise, Id
208-921-1861


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: eyespy73 on August 13, 2009, 02:02:43 PM
Our office received a call from one of Robert Manwill's Aunt's through marriage and told us some pretty interesting things, I told this to local investigators on this case and I was brushed off....I think that was pertinent to the case , don't you?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 13, 2009, 02:31:13 PM
Our office received a call from one of Robert Manwill's Aunt's through marriage and told us some pretty interesting things, I told this to local investigators on this case and I was brushed off....I think that was pertinent to the case , don't you?
This is all very interesting, would like to hear more about this  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 13, 2009, 03:07:22 PM
Our office received a call from one of Robert Manwill's Aunt's through marriage and told us some pretty interesting things, I told this to local investigators on this case and I was brushed off....I think that was pertinent to the case , don't you?
This is all very interesting, would like to hear more about this  ::MonkeyEek::

Scooch over NoRose...me too   ::MonkeyShocked:: 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: klaasend on August 13, 2009, 04:20:20 PM
Our office received a call from one of Robert Manwill's Aunt's through marriage and told us some pretty interesting things, I told this to local investigators on this case and I was brushed off....I think that was pertinent to the case , don't you?

Eyespy - have you contacted local media?  I would think they would be very interrested in your information.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 13, 2009, 06:45:16 PM
Our office received a call from one of Robert Manwill's Aunt's through marriage and told us some pretty interesting things, I told this to local investigators on this case and I was brushed off....I think that was pertinent to the case , don't you?

What do you mean by brushed off?
If you reported information, LE will follow up on it. They don't usually check back with whoever reports the tips/information unless they require more information from you. They are under no obligation to let you know if your information "panned out".

Why didn't you ask Robert's aunt to put you in contact with the mom or with the dad? Charles is the one who had custody of Robert.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: eyespy73 on August 14, 2009, 02:21:27 AM
They said they had enough help already and as far as what we heard from the aunt, they said they had it covered so if they wanted to hear our info they would or could have  contacted us, but they didn't......hey pink angel who's side are you on/ you seemed as if you wanted to correct me, or tell us we were wrong...our offer was for free, and we specialize in missing persons investigations, we were trying to help find a boy. And brushed off means, "we have got it handled but thank you and we will pass on your offer to our detectives"......Our office offers free missing persons investigations to all in our local area, becuase it's not about us, it's about the one who is missing.................GOD BLESS


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: eyespy73 on August 14, 2009, 02:24:50 AM
we signed onto this site to help those in need. If there are some who wish to debate or argue a case, we will leave. Again , our place is to be of maximum service to those who need our help. GOD BLESS


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 14, 2009, 05:39:13 AM
They said they had enough help already and as far as what we heard from the aunt, they said they had it covered so if they wanted to hear our info they would or could have  contacted us, but they didn't......hey pink angel who's side are you on/ you seemed as if you wanted to correct me, or tell us we were wrong...our offer was for free, and we specialize in missing persons investigations, we were trying to help find a boy. And brushed off means, "we have got it handled but thank you and we will pass on your offer to our detectives"......Our office offers free missing persons investigations to all in our local area, becuase it's not about us, it's about the one who is missing.................GOD BLESS

First off, I am on Robert's side. I care passionately about children and each time one posted here winds up murdered, I am heartbroken, lose sleep and cry for days. Each and every one have a place in my heart.

I wasn't debating or trying to argue at all. I was just asking a question.

I can't answer for the police. I don't know why they didn't accept your kind offer. Perhaps they had all the help they needed. There was many agencies involved. LE, FBI, members of Team Adam and NCMEC. Again, I don't know. If you feel like you were not listened to then, perhaps you should call back and ask to talk to the investigator and charge and talk to them.

Bless you for trying to help.   


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: klaasend on August 14, 2009, 01:33:46 PM
Eyespy - I don't know who the WE is you keep referring to but we do not allow members to share nicknames and passwords.  That said I'm not sure what your purpose is here.  If you think the family is hiding something then I suggest you go to police or FBI.

Please do not come to SM and try to tell others what to post.

NOTE:  On second thought, Eyespy has been banned.  We don't need new argumentative posters at SM.  If Eyespy has information pertentent to Robert Manwill THEY should go to LE or the FBI.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: MAca on August 14, 2009, 06:48:51 PM
Thanks CBB, I appreciate it very much.   You and Klaas Rock    ::MonkeyCheer2::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 14, 2009, 09:09:09 PM
no arrest yet? ::MonkeyNoNo::  i don't want this to be like
 ::MonkeyAngel:: Nevaeh ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 14, 2009, 09:22:44 PM
no arrest yet? ::MonkeyNoNo::  i don't want this to be like
 ::MonkeyAngel:: Nevaeh ::MonkeyAngel::

It's coming mama. We just have to be patient. Unlike Nevaeh's case, I am pretty sure they know who did this to Robert and are just waiting on forensics/evidence to come back from labs to make an arrest.

just my opinion.


klaas, you do rock. :) Thank you.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 14, 2009, 09:24:13 PM

(http://i26.tinypic.com/29opj0i.jpg)


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m

Lighting a candle and saying a prayer for justice for little man and his family.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Kat_Gram on August 14, 2009, 10:17:31 PM
Yes, I was peeking from work and have to agree, Ms. Klaasend does rock.
I want whoever did this to Robert to be arrested., charged and  to go on trial.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: luvmyboys on August 14, 2009, 11:05:46 PM
I was wondering if someone anyone would go to my site www.childrenaremissing.com and tell me how to improve it. And how to be able to have comments. This is my first time I have ever done this. I am very passionate about children and what is going on in this twisted world. Please give me feed back. Ty hope


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: dadsgrl1255 on August 15, 2009, 09:48:44 AM
just so you know hun, the search at the wallis place turned up nothing according to what the police told them.   I do  know for sure that they were out of town when all this happened, as for Evan covering for someone i doubt it.  Why aren't they going after the boys mother, who by the way just recently was charged for breaking her youngest child's skull?  I haven't heard any updates in a while, please keep me posted.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: dadsgrl1255 on August 15, 2009, 10:01:37 AM
i think your site is wonderful!  God bless you hun and good luck! ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: dadsgrl1255 on August 15, 2009, 10:28:38 AM
does anyone know why they ruled out the canal in the first place?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: dadsgrl1255 on August 15, 2009, 10:42:20 AM
this was sealed because he was 15.  He was arrested for smoking on school property.  I am very upset by all this.  These people's lives are now out there for the public to judge.  Mathew 7: 1-2.  I do not know Evan, but do know the Whitman Family.  They are not Bad people.  They made some mistakes, who hasn't?  They are not murderers.  If you noticed most of Jennifer's court issues were for driving violations, and child support.  Mark is a new found Christian and is really trying to follow the right path.  He needs support not judgement.  I am praying constantly for all these people, including the detectives looking for Robert's killer and would appreciate it if you would do the same.  Thank you for listening.  God Bless you in all you do! ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: luvmyboys on August 15, 2009, 05:07:03 PM
Oh ty so much dadgrl1255. I am right now putting current updates on it. And trying to find a way that people will be able to leave comments. And keep comeing back. I am gonna do some rearrangeing on it. Right now I am so excited because I have learned a few things. To do tell all your friends www.childrenaremissing.com it is not finished but I think I have a good start. Ty


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 16, 2009, 12:45:08 AM

(http://i26.tinypic.com/29opj0i.jpg)


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m

Lighting a candle and saying a prayer for justice for little man and his family.



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on August 17, 2009, 02:41:34 PM
Well, it doesn't look like there are any updates on Robert's case.  I hope something comes out soon.

Justice for Robert.   ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 18, 2009, 10:30:57 AM
Everyday I come here hoping to see there has been an arrest in this case.  I hope very soon someone is made to take responsiblity for their actions.

Going to light a candle for Robert now.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on August 18, 2009, 01:03:44 PM
http://www.fox12idaho.com/Global/story.asp?S=10945666&nav=menu439_2_1

Neighbors Long to Know About Robert Manwill Investigation

Posted: Aug 17, 2009 10:14 PM

Boise, Idaho -- The body of 8-year-old Robert Manwill was found Aug. 3. And just a few weeks later, there's still nothing from Boise police as to a potential suspect in his murder.

Now some people in the neighborhood where the boy originally went missing are growing concerned.

"I think everyone's wondering what's going on with the investigation," said Megan Egbert.

Egbert lives just a few blocks away. She's hoping that soon there will be some news from police, if nothing else but for a little piece of mind.

"The not knowing what happened and especially being close to here and wanting to think our neighborhood is safe," said Egbert.

Others say they'd like to know, simply because of what they've already been through as neighbors.  Many have been personally affected by the ongoing investigation.

"Yeah, it was kind of hard to deal with just because we kept having police come to our house. And like I said, we got searched twice, and the garage and everything. It was fine, we were willing to help and everything, so it was fine, but it was just kind of crazy for the last couple weeks," said Tana Loan, another neighbor.

But so far detectives are keeping anything they might know very close to the vest.

What they have said has been scant -- that Manwill was murdered, that it happened at the hands of someone he knew, and there were signs he was injured at his mother's apartment.

With nothing more to go on, the community is getting restless, and speculation is running wild.

"I think everybody has their ideas. There's a lot of speculation about the family environment -- previous charges," said Egbert.

"I think it should be dealt with the family and the police. And once they want to release a story, then they should," Loan added.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 18, 2009, 07:51:19 PM
Boise Police will hold a news briefing tonight at 7 p.m.  MAJOR Development in Robert Manwill case.

Praying for an arrest!!


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 18, 2009, 07:56:16 PM
Father says son arrested in connection with Robert Manwill disappearance, death
By Kathleen Kreller - kkreller@idahostatesman.com
Published: 08/18/09

Daniel Ehrlick Jr. has been arrested in connection with the disappearance and death of 8-year-old Robert Manwill, according to his father Daniel Ehrlick Sr.

Ehrlick Sr. said he doesn't know what the charge is or if anyone else has been arrested. Boise Police Chief Mike Masterson said he didn't have any information when contacted just before 6 p.m. Boise poice have planned a news conference for 7 tonight to announce a "major development" in the case.

Check back later for more information.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 18, 2009, 07:59:32 PM
http://www.idahostatesman.com/1263/story/869713.html

THANK GOD!

JUSTICE FOR ROBERT!
 ::MonkeyCheer2::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 08:06:17 PM
http://www.idahostatesman.com/1263/story/869713.html

THANK GOD!

JUSTICE FOR ROBERT!
 ::MonkeyCheer2::
  ::MonkeyAngel:: Justice for Robert


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 18, 2009, 08:08:02 PM
Boise Police to announce major development in Manwill homicide

Boise Police have scheduled a 7 p.m. news conference tonight to announce a major development in the Robert Manwill homicide investigation. The 8-year-old was found murdered earlier this month. We will carry the press conference live on NewsChannel 7.


http://www.ktvb.com/


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 18, 2009, 08:10:48 PM
I knew the b#stard did it. I knew it.

I am crying for little man. For his family.

I am thrilled there has been arrest made.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 08:12:09 PM
I knew the b#stard did it. I knew it.

I am crying for little man. For his family.

I am thrilled there has been arrest made.
Me too.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 18, 2009, 08:14:52 PM
 ::MonkeyAngel:: Justice will be served for the Little Man. My heart aches for this little boy.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 18, 2009, 08:17:27 PM
I knew the b#stard did it. I knew it.

I am crying for little man. For his family.

I am thrilled there has been arrest made.
Pink, me too. I felt so bad when I was caught up in my own world and didn't know he was missing. Then once I read up, I knew the BF did it. Oh for the love of God how can a person hurt an innocent child like Robert and all other children.  ::MonkeyWaa:: My heart is breaking for his family right now. Sorry for the rant. JSM  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 18, 2009, 08:18:33 PM
::MonkeyAngel:: Justice will be served for the Little Man. My heart aches for this little boy.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Mine too JSM, mine too.

I thank god and the Boise PD. They have done such a great job handling this from the beginning. I have a special place in my heart for them too.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 18, 2009, 08:22:45 PM
I knew the b#stard did it. I knew it.

I am crying for little man. For his family.

I am thrilled there has been arrest made.
Pink, me too. I felt so bad when I was caught up in my own world and didn't know he was missing. Then once I read up, I knew the BF did it. Oh for the love of God how can a person hurt an innocent child like Robert and all other children.  ::MonkeyWaa:: My heart is breaking for his family right now. Sorry for the rant. JSM  ::MonkeyWaa::

Not a rant at all. I feel the same way.
I don't understand it either. It makes me angry, it makes me so angry that five minutes alone with anyone that harms a child, I could see me easily crossing the dark side....if you know what I mean.

I am tiny but I am scrappy. I could inflict pain.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 18, 2009, 08:25:43 PM
::MonkeyAngel:: Justice will be served for the Little Man. My heart aches for this little boy.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Mine too JSM, mine too.

I thank god and the Boise PD. They have done such a great job handling this from the beginning. I have a special place in my heart for them too.
I think they have done a great job for this boy.

I thought at first it was the mother due to her past history. I feel so rotten right now if she didn't have any clue to what happened to poor Robert. But I still think something is fishy about her, JMO JSM


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 18, 2009, 08:28:09 PM
Boise Police to announce major development in Manwill homicide

Boise Police have scheduled a 7 p.m. news conference tonight to announce a major development in the Robert Manwill homicide investigation. The 8-year-old was found murdered earlier this month. We will carry the press conference live on NewsChannel 7.


http://www.ktvb.com/

thanks!


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 18, 2009, 08:30:52 PM
::MonkeyAngel:: Justice will be served for the Little Man. My heart aches for this little boy.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Mine too JSM, mine too.

I thank god and the Boise PD. They have done such a great job handling this from the beginning. I have a special place in my heart for them too.
I think they have done a great job for this boy.

I thought at first it was the mother due to her past history. I feel so rotten right now if she didn't have any clue to what happened to poor Robert. But I still think something is fishy about her, JMO JSM

I think Danny was the one that cracked the baby's head and she took the wrap for it. That's JMO.

I don't think she was involved with Robert's death other than picking a   monster for a boyfriend and allowing him to be around her children knowing that he is a monster.

I could be wrong.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 18, 2009, 08:30:56 PM
I knew the b#stard did it. I knew it.

I am crying for little man. For his family.

I am thrilled there has been arrest made.
Pink, me too. I felt so bad when I was caught up in my own world and didn't know he was missing. Then once I read up, I knew the BF did it. Oh for the love of God how can a person hurt an innocent child like Robert and all other children.  ::MonkeyWaa:: My heart is breaking for his family right now. Sorry for the rant. JSM  ::MonkeyWaa::

Not a rant at all. I feel the same way.
I don't understand it either. It makes me angry, it makes me so angry that five minutes alone with anyone that harms a child, I could see me easily crossing the dark side....if you know what I mean.

I am tiny but I am scrappy. I could inflict pain.
Makes me so mad, how can a person hurt a child or an animal for that matter (snakes excluded)? I just don't get it? I know the BF's dad said the mom was harsh to Robert, was that because of the BF? Was the dad just saying that to keep his son out of trouble? I'm not tiny, but I could whoop him up right about now. Robert was tiny. A tiny little boy with a big heart that didn't deserve this. How many more Robert's and Caylee's and the other children will it take for this not to happen anymore. I am just beside myself right now.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 18, 2009, 08:34:53 PM
::MonkeyAngel:: Justice will be served for the Little Man. My heart aches for this little boy.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Mine too JSM, mine too.

I thank god and the Boise PD. They have done such a great job handling this from the beginning. I have a special place in my heart for them too.
I think they have done a great job for this boy.

I thought at first it was the mother due to her past history. I feel so rotten right now if she didn't have any clue to what happened to poor Robert. But I still think something is fishy about her, JMO JSM

I think Danny was the one that cracked the baby's head and she took the wrap for it. That's JMO.

I don't think she was involved with Robert's death other than picking a   monster for a boyfriend and allowing him to be around her children knowing that he is a monster.

I could be wrong.
Started thinking the same thing too once the BF went to hospital.

BUT, sorry if I knew my BF was cracking the skull of my baby, I would run for the hills and definitely not let my other child around him.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 18, 2009, 08:35:25 PM
Boise Police to announce major development in Manwill homicide

Boise Police have scheduled a 7 p.m. news conference tonight to announce a major development in the Robert Manwill homicide investigation. The 8-year-old was found murdered earlier this month. We will carry the press conference live on NewsChannel 7.


http://www.ktvb.com/

thanks!



News confr will also be on here as well

http://www.2news.tv/


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 18, 2009, 08:39:38 PM
::MonkeyAngel:: Justice will be served for the Little Man. My heart aches for this little boy.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Mine too JSM, mine too.

I thank god and the Boise PD. They have done such a great job handling this from the beginning. I have a special place in my heart for them too.
I think they have done a great job for this boy.

I thought at first it was the mother due to her past history. I feel so rotten right now if she didn't have any clue to what happened to poor Robert. But I still think something is fishy about her, JMO JSM

I think Danny was the one that cracked the baby's head and she took the wrap for it. That's JMO.

I don't think she was involved with Robert's death other than picking a   monster for a boyfriend and allowing him to be around her children knowing that he is a monster.

I could be wrong.
Started thinking the same thing too once the BF went to hospital.

BUT, sorry if I knew my BF was cracking the skull of my baby, I would run for the hills and definitely not let my other child around him.


I still remember what Marc Klaas said about bio mom and her boyfriend. He called them a filthy family and I agree!!


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 18, 2009, 08:39:51 PM
::MonkeyAngel:: Justice will be served for the Little Man. My heart aches for this little boy.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Mine too JSM, mine too.

I thank god and the Boise PD. They have done such a great job handling this from the beginning. I have a special place in my heart for them too.
I think they have done a great job for this boy.

I thought at first it was the mother due to her past history. I feel so rotten right now if she didn't have any clue to what happened to poor Robert. But I still think something is fishy about her, JMO JSM

I think Danny was the one that cracked the baby's head and she took the wrap for it. That's JMO.

I don't think she was involved with Robert's death other than picking a   monster for a boyfriend and allowing him to be around her children knowing that he is a monster.

I could be wrong.
Started thinking the same thing too once the BF went to hospital.

BUT, sorry if I knew my BF was cracking the skull of my baby, I would run for the hills and definitely not let my other child around him.

You and I and most would.

Some woman stay with abusive men. I don't understand it at all. I don't understand why they would allow their children to be put in such danger. It does happen though. Over and over and over again.

IF that is what happened. She is every bit as guilty in my mind.



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 18, 2009, 08:40:05 PM
Mother's boyfriend arrested in case of missing boy 

Associated Press - August 18, 2009 8:14 PM ET

BOISE, Idaho (AP) - Boise police have arrested Daniel Ehrlick Jr. in connection with the disappearance and death of 8-year-old Robert Manwill, The Idaho Statesman has reported.

Manwill was missing for more than a week before his body was found floating in a Boise canal on Aug. 3. Police said evidence showed the death was not accidental.

Ehrlick is the boyfriend of Manwill's mother, Melissa Jenkins.

Ehrlick's father, Daniel Ehrlick Sr., told the Statesman that he didn't know what the charge was or if anyone else had been arrested. Boise Police Chief Mike Masterson did not immediately release any information, but a news conference was planned for 7 p.m.
http://www.kivitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10952591

Information from: Idaho Statesman, http://www.idahostatesman.com


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 18, 2009, 08:58:25 PM
::MonkeyAngel:: Justice will be served for the Little Man. My heart aches for this little boy.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Mine too JSM, mine too.

I thank god and the Boise PD. They have done such a great job handling this from the beginning. I have a special place in my heart for them too.
I think they have done a great job for this boy.

I thought at first it was the mother due to her past history. I feel so rotten right now if she didn't have any clue to what happened to poor Robert. But I still think something is fishy about her, JMO JSM

I think Danny was the one that cracked the baby's head and she took the wrap for it. That's JMO.

I don't think she was involved with Robert's death other than picking a   monster for a boyfriend and allowing him to be around her children knowing that he is a monster.

I could be wrong.
Started thinking the same thing too once the BF went to hospital.

BUT, sorry if I knew my BF was cracking the skull of my baby, I would run for the hills and definitely not let my other child around him.


I still remember what Marc Klaas said about bio mom and her boyfriend. He called them a filthy family and I agree!!
  ::MonkeyCool:: I didn't know he said that about them. ITA.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 18, 2009, 09:01:56 PM
::MonkeyAngel:: Justice will be served for the Little Man. My heart aches for this little boy.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Mine too JSM, mine too.

I thank god and the Boise PD. They have done such a great job handling this from the beginning. I have a special place in my heart for them too.
I think they have done a great job for this boy.

I thought at first it was the mother due to her past history. I feel so rotten right now if she didn't have any clue to what happened to poor Robert. But I still think something is fishy about her, JMO JSM

I think Danny was the one that cracked the baby's head and she took the wrap for it. That's JMO.

I don't think she was involved with Robert's death other than picking a   monster for a boyfriend and allowing him to be around her children knowing that he is a monster.

I could be wrong.
Started thinking the same thing too once the BF went to hospital.

BUT, sorry if I knew my BF was cracking the skull of my baby, I would run for the hills and definitely not let my other child around him.

You and I and most would.

Some woman stay with abusive men. I don't understand it at all. I don't understand why they would allow their children to be put in such danger. It does happen though. Over and over and over again.

IF that is what happened. She is every bit as guilty in my mind.


She KNEW


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 18, 2009, 09:02:37 PM
Both Danny and Melissa. Danny no bond. Melissa - 2 million dollar bond.

First degree murder and failure to report a death.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 18, 2009, 09:04:48 PM
 ::MonkeyWaa:: OMG, I think I will be sick. Pink I was trying to post about being in an abusive relationship and was about to take up for his mom.

 ::MonkeyMad:: I am so sick and pizzed at the same time.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 18, 2009, 09:05:56 PM
I really wish Robert's dad could have 1 minute with those two.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 18, 2009, 09:08:26 PM
I really wish Robert's dad could have 1 minute with those two.

I can't imagine the grief he must be in. Having two of your children BOTH die at the hand of their mothers. ::shakes head::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 18, 2009, 09:10:22 PM
I really wish Robert's dad could have 1 minute with those two.


Talk about lightning striking twice in the way that poor man has lost 2 of his children!! Unbelieveable.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 18, 2009, 09:11:47 PM
Well, at least the pos mother isn't going anywhere with a 2 mil dollar bond on her


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 18, 2009, 09:19:11 PM
I really wish Robert's dad could have 1 minute with those two.

I can't imagine the grief he must be in. Having two of your children BOTH die at the hand of their mothers. ::shakes head::
I can't imagine his grief right about now. I am just numb.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 18, 2009, 09:21:03 PM
Well, at least the pos mother isn't going anywhere with a 2 mil dollar bond on her
I'm not good at math, so 2 million if they had the money and a bail bond person would be 200,000? If so she is sitting her ugly arse in jail until trial.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 18, 2009, 09:22:22 PM
Well, at least the pos mother isn't going anywhere with a 2 mil dollar bond on her
I'm not good at math, so 2 million if they had the money and a bail bond person would be 200,000? If so she is sitting her ugly arse in jail until trial.



That sounds about right to me.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 18, 2009, 09:24:11 PM
LE is very interested in what was going on the entire week before Robert was reported missing.....Wonder what they know or are looking for......


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 18, 2009, 09:26:49 PM
 ::MonkeyAngel:: To RobertRIP Little Man. I am thankful for the people that searched for you, the LE that has kept your case alive and Grand Jury that put your mom and Danny in jail. You deserved much better than having to stay the summer with them. I also pray CPS/DFS or whatever it is called up there will rethink letting a child go stay with a parent that has bashed in a child's skull.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I will go light a candle for you again today. It's all I can do. JSM  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 18, 2009, 09:27:06 PM


BOISE – Police say they know who is responsible for killing Robert Manwill: his mother and her boyfriend.

Melissa Scott Jenkins, 30 and Daniel Edward Ehrlick, 36 were taken into custody Tuesday afternoon – both are charged with first-degree murder. Ehrlick is also charged with failure to report a death to law enforcement, while Jenkins is charged as an accessory for failing to report Manwill’s death to law enforcement.

Manwill’s body was found in a Kuna canal on August 10th. Police said the boy was a victim of homicide and vowed to find his killer.

“Probably no other case in Boise history has touched so many people,” Boise Police Deputy Chief Jim Kerns said Tuesday night.

The boy was reported missing to police on July 24th. The community quickly responded, with posters featuring the boy’s face popping up all over town, and volunteers spending spare time searching for the child.

The boy’s date of death may now be in question. Kerns asked for the public’s help offering any details of the activities of Jenkins or Ehrlick in the week leading up to July 24th. Kerns did not take questions at the news briefing, which did not give the media a chance to ask follow up questions that may better illustrate particulars of the case – including why they believe Ehrlick and Jenkins are responsible.

The case started to rapidly change on Thursday 30th. That night, police began searching the Jenkins' Boise Bench apartment, removing materials from the home, including cabinets, computers and more. Police also towed a vehicle from the complex.

The pair has now been indicted by an Ada County grand jury, and are being booked into the Ada County Jail on the charges. Ehrlick will be held without bond, while Jenkins will be held on a $2 million bond.

Ehrlick and Jenkins appeared behind Kerns at each news conference until the day after Jenkins’ home was searched. Ehrlick has not been seen in public since. Jenkins was at the boy’s funeral and at a news event the day her son’s body was identified.

Jenkins has a past criminal history that involves hurting children.

On October 19, 2008 police said a baby boy had been injured. Jenkins was arrested and charged with felony injury to a child. The child suffered serious head injuries and was taken to a local hospital for treatment. The child was taken into the custody of the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare.

Court documents say Jenkins hit her 9-month-old son's head on a surface. The infant suffered a fractured skull that caused not only physical pain, but mental suffering as well.

Since the boy’s disappearance and before his arrest, Ehrlick had been in and out of the hospital for unspecified treatments, according to family.

Kerns said the investigation into Manwill’s death continues – and says if anyone has information that may help them, to call Boise Police Dispatch at 377-6790.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug1809-manwill.f33b6dd1.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 09:38:51 PM
Both Danny and Melissa. Danny no bond. Melissa - 2 million dollar bond.

First degree murder and failure to report a death.
Wow


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 18, 2009, 09:40:25 PM
It is an epidemic that is happening in all of our backyards. Makes me sick.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 09:42:47 PM
Since I'm not quite grasping this, sorry  ::MonkeyConfused:: they both are responsible for murdering Robert, or Daniel murdered Robert, and his mom hid it from authorities? Or both had a hand in the murder of Robert.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: burkieandemme on August 18, 2009, 09:44:06 PM
I am so angry!!!  How could that egg donor even be eligible for bond?   I know it is set at 2 million, but she should be held without bond.  She was the one person in this world who should have protected Robert.   He was her baby. 

Shame on her for choosing whatever she did (fly-by-night boyfriend, drugs, whatever) over her child.  Shame on her for harming her child.  Shame on her for crying tears over Robert after was reported as missing-when she knew what her and her "man" had done!!

(Sorry for the rant.  I am just tired of women who choose the drugs, alcohol or men over their children.  Granted it has not been proven that egg donor was on drugs, or a drunk.  But we do know she chose this jerk over her children, with her daughter, with her infant son and lastly with Robert. Monster!)


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 09:45:02 PM
It is an epidemic that is happening in all of our backyards. Makes me sick.
I agree it is an epidemic, but for the life of me I'm trying to figure out why? Why so much of this senseless murder, I certainly don't recall this kind of things happening this much in the past. Just baffeled by it  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 18, 2009, 09:58:19 PM
finally we have arrests and we will wait for justice to be served..
Robert no child in the world deserved to go through what you went through.  you are now an angel watching down.  justice will be served in your memory.  sleep in the clouds little man. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: MuffyBee on August 18, 2009, 10:05:21 PM
finally we have arrests and we will wait for justice to be served..
Robert no child in the world deserved to go through what you went through.  you are now an angel watching down.  justice will be served in your memory.  sleep in the clouds little man. ::MonkeyAngel::

Justice for little man Robert.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 18, 2009, 10:09:33 PM
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The boy’s date of death may now be in question. Kerns asked for the public’s help offering any details of the activities of Jenkins or Ehrlick in the week leading up to July 24th.
http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug1809-manwill.f33b6dd1.html

This is just awful; those two may have murdered Robert earlier in the week and then dumped him in the canal. That may explain the friend’s car being “stolen/borrowed” well before Robert was reported missing. They also would have had time to come up with their phony story and the mother’s alibi that had her at work when the supposed disappearance happened.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 10:10:45 PM
Snipped

The boy’s date of death may now be in question. Kerns asked for the public’s help offering any details of the activities of Jenkins or Ehrlick in the week leading up to July 24th.
http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug1809-manwill.f33b6dd1.html

This is just awful; those two may have murdered Robert earlier in the week and then dumped him in the canal. That may explain the friend’s car being “stolen/borrowed” well before Robert was reported missing. They also would have had time to come up with their phony story and the mother’s alibi that had her at work when the supposed disappearance happened.

Just horrible and unbelievable  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 18, 2009, 10:13:20 PM
Snipped

The boy’s date of death may now be in question. Kerns asked for the public’s help offering any details of the activities of Jenkins or Ehrlick in the week leading up to July 24th.
http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug1809-manwill.f33b6dd1.html

This is just awful; those two may have murdered Robert earlier in the week and then dumped him in the canal. That may explain the friend’s car being “stolen/borrowed” well before Robert was reported missing. They also would have had time to come up with their phony story and the mother’s alibi that had her at work when the supposed disappearance happened.

Just horrible and unbelievable  ::MonkeyNoNo::


The nerve of that lowlife, playing the grieving the mother. Just that fact alone will bring more wrath down on her. I say good!!!


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 18, 2009, 10:18:19 PM
Snipped

The boy’s date of death may now be in question. Kerns asked for the public’s help offering any details of the activities of Jenkins or Ehrlick in the week leading up to July 24th.
http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug1809-manwill.f33b6dd1.html

This is just awful; those two may have murdered Robert earlier in the week and then dumped him in the canal. That may explain the friend’s car being “stolen/borrowed” well before Robert was reported missing. They also would have had time to come up with their phony story and the mother’s alibi that had her at work when the supposed disappearance happened.

Just horrible and unbelievable  ::MonkeyNoNo::


The nerve of that lowlife, playing the grieving the mother. Just that fact alone will bring more wrath down on her. I say good!!!
And again I was somewhat buying that grieving mother routine, makes me so mad. And Robert was adjusting to living with his dad, and enjoying his new school....  ::MonkeyAngel:: Robert you will get justice.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Northern Rose on August 18, 2009, 10:53:09 PM
Robert Manwill's mother, her boyfriend arrested in his death

Robert Manwill's mother and her boyfriend were arrested today in connection with the child's murder, Boise police announced this evening.

Deputy Chief Jim Kerns said Melissa Scott Jenkins, 30, and Daniel Edward Ehrlick, 36, are both charged with first degree murder.

Ehrlick also faces a charge of failing to report a death to law enforcement. Jenkins faces a charge of accessory to that crime.



Kerns did not discuss a time or cause of death.

Manwill, who lived with his father and attended school in New Plymouth, had been missing since July 24. His body was discovered in a Southwest Ada County canal Aug. 3.

Both Ehrlick and Jenkins were indicted on these charges today by an Ada County grand jury, Kerns said.

Ehrlick is being held on the murder charge without bond. Jenkins is jailed on the murder charge with a bond amount of $2 million.

Robert had last stayed with his mother and her boyfriend at an apartment near Vista Avenue on the Boise Bench.

The night he disappeared , the boy was visiting his mother, Melissa Scott Jenkins. The boy's father, Charles Manwill, has had custody of him since 2008.

Detectives ask that anyone with information on Robert or the suspects, particularly about their activities during the week leading up to the boy's disappearance, contact police through Crime Stoppers at 343-COPS.

The defendants will be arraigned at 9:30 a.m. Wednesday before 4th District Judge Deborah Bail.

"In the interest of a fair trial for those accused, we at Boise police now put Robert's case in the competent hands of the Ada County prosecutors," Kerns said.

Every law enforcement agency in the Treasure Valley, along with other Idaho agencies, the FBI and the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children assisted in the 10-day investigation of the boy's disappearance.

Thousands of community members also joined in the search for the boy, last seen at his family's apartment complex in Boise. The case garnered nationwide attention.

Kerns said local, state and federal agencies invested 9,000 man-hours in the search.

"Probably no other case in Boise history has touched so many people," Kerns said. "The turnout of volunteers to search for young Robert was unprecedented in this community."

Boise Mayor Dave Bieter commended the work of the law enforcement agencies involved.

"While the presumption of innocence must be maintained, I hope and have faith that justice will be served in this case and that our citizens —  who have shown incredible compassion in the face of tragedy — can begin to mend from the loss of Robert Manwill," Bieter said in a prepared statement.

http://www.idahopress.com/sports/?2009-08-18-Robert-Manwills-mother-her-boyfriend-arrested-in-his-death


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Northern Rose on August 18, 2009, 10:55:00 PM
Mother, boyfriend indicted in death of Idaho boy
By JOHN MILLER (AP) – 22 minutes ago

BOISE, Idaho — The mother of an 8-year-old boy found dead in an Idaho canal and her live-in boyfriend have been indicted on first-degree murder charges by an Ada County grand jury.

Thirty-year-old Melissa Jenkins and her boyfriend, 36-year-old Daniel Ehrlick Jr., were arrested Tuesday in the death of Jenkins' son, Robert Manwill. The two also face charges on accusations that they failed to report the boy's death.

Robert was missing for more than a week before his body was found floating in the canal Aug. 3. No cause of death has been released, but police said evidence showed the death was not accidental.

The boy's disappearance struck a chord in southwestern Idaho, and thousands of residents turned out to search for him. Deputy Chief Jim Kerns, of the Boise Police Department, said during a news conference televised Tuesday on KTVB-TV that officers at his agency logged more than 9,000 hours trying to uncover what happened to the youngster after he left his mother's apartment in Boise on July 24.

"Probably no other case in Boise history has touched so many people," Kerns told reporters. "The turnout of volunteers to search for Robert was unprecedented in this community. The law enforcement effort to find Robert was equally massive and unprecedented."

Jenkins is being held in the Ada County Jail on $2 million bond, while Ehrlick is being held there without bond.

They are due to be formally charged Wednesday morning in 4th District Court. Attempts to reach Jenkins and Ehrlick at the jail were unsuccessful, and it was unknown if either had an attorney.

Robert Manwill's father, Charles Manwill of New Plymouth, Idaho, had custody of the boy since 2008. Jenkins had visitation rights, and the boy was visiting her the night he disappeared.

Jenkins is on probation for fracturing the skull of Robert Manwill's infant half brother, who was removed from her custody by the state in late 2008.

Court records say Jenkins "did willfully inflict" the injury to her other son "by striking the child's head on a surface, causing a fracture to the child's skull," on Oct. 19, 2008. She was sentenced to 29 days of work release and put on probation for two years.

Ehrlick served time in an Idaho prison after being convicted of burglary and grand theft in the 1990s and was arrested for several probation violations, according to Idaho court records. He has also been convicted of assaulting a police officer and possessing drug paraphernalia.

Jenkins has a third child, a 2 1/2-year-old daughter, fathered by a third man, who has custody of her. Jenkins has visitation rights. Ehrlick is banned by the courts from being alone with the girl, but documents don't say why.

This is Charles Manwill's second child to die violently. His former wife, Silke Fatma Manwill, stabbed their 4-year-old son, Michael, in the chest in 1993, killing him. She was sentenced to federal prison after pleading guilty to voluntary manslaughter, and was released in 2002.

Efforts to reach Jenkins' family and Charles Manwill on Tuesday evening were unsuccessful.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hUXzIn-qwIqEY9RjeTeHqMRo83PgD9A5M7LG0


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Blink34 on August 18, 2009, 11:12:02 PM
God Bless this Little Boy with the Big Smile.

My sources tell me this will not be the only arrest in this case.  What do you say?

B


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 18, 2009, 11:19:16 PM
God Bless this Little Boy with the Big Smile.

My sources tell me this will not be the only arrest in this case.  What do you say?

B



If I had to guess, I would say Ehrlick's brother maybe?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 18, 2009, 11:22:19 PM
Here's a question.....Why is a child's life only worth 9 years prison time?  She stabbed him repeatedly in the chest......she should never see light of day....this is just so wrong....


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This is Charles Manwill's second child to die violently. His former wife, Silke Fatma Manwill, stabbed their 4-year-old son, Michael, in the chest in 1993, killing him. She was sentenced to federal prison after pleading guilty to voluntary manslaughter, and was released in 2002.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cartfly on August 19, 2009, 12:53:50 AM
Here's a question.....Why is a child's life only worth 9 years prison time?  She stabbed him repeatedly in the chest......she should never see light of day....this is just so wrong....


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This is Charles Manwill's second child to die violently. His former wife, Silke Fatma Manwill, stabbed their 4-year-old son, Michael, in the chest in 1993, killing him. She was sentenced to federal prison after pleading guilty to voluntary manslaughter, and was released in 2002.

I thought the same thing when I first read about the Dad's first wife. Since the child was killed on an army base in Louisiana does this automatically become a case under federal jurisdiction? The reason I ask is because the sentence under the State of Louisiana courts should have been at minimum, "life". I am not sure who has jurisdiction when a crime occurs on a Army base. Anybody know? This woman should not be walking amongst us, she gave up that right the minute she killed that baby. I hope everyday of her life is hell! I just can't find forgiveness for this.
 
I don't mean to offend anyone, but I have no respect for anyone who would hurt a child or animal. Could you imagine the look of disbelief on that child's face as his mother stabbed him. It makes me sick to think about that child's last moments. ::MonkeyMad::



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 19, 2009, 01:30:22 AM
Boise Police Department
News Release Michael F. Masterson
Chief of Police

Contact: Lynn Hightower
Communications Director
570-6180
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Mom, Boyfriend Arrested After Missing Child Found Dead
August 18, 2009
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Tuesday, August 18 - Boise Police have arrested Melissa Jenkins, and Daniel Ehrlick in connection with the death of Robert manwill, 8, first reported missing July 24th. Click here for the latest.

Media Briefing, Tuesday, Aug. 18, 2009
Comments from Deputy Chief Jim Kerns, Boise Police Department, 7:00 p.m.

Good evening. I’m Deputy Chief Jim Kerns with the Boise Police Department.

We have a major announcement in the case of little Robert Manwill.

Robert… as we all know.. is the 8 year old boy first reported missing from his mothers apartment on Cherry Lane in Boise, Friday night July 24th.

Probably no other case in Boise history has touched so many people.

The turn out of volunteers to search for Robert was unprecedented in this community.

The law enforcement effort to find Robert was equally massive and unprecedented.

9,000 man hours were logged by Boise Police, agents with the FBI, Idaho Probation and Parole agents, and other local, state, and federal police agencies… between the time Robert went missing July 24th to the time he was found ten days later.

When Robert’s body was found, Monday, August 3rd… just over two weeks ago…the case went from a missing child to a homicide investigation.

At that time… I sent a strong message on behalf of Boise Police and all those in this community who were touched by the tragic, untimely death of this little boy…that justice would not be denied Robert Manwill.

And now I can announce… that late this afternoon… Boise Police arrested Daniel Edward Ehrlick, age 36, of Boise on a charge of First Degree Murder for the death of 8 year old Robert Manwill.

Daniel Ehrlick lived with Robert and his mother Melissa at the time of Robert’s death.

Daniel Ehrlick is also charged with Failing to Report a Death to Law Enforcement.

Also… this afternoon… Boise Police arrested Robert’s mother, Melissa Scott Jenkins, age 30 of Boise for First Degree Murder, in the death of her son, Robert Manwill.

Melissa Jenkins was also charged as an accessory for failing to report her son’s death to law enforcement.

Both Ehrlick and Jenkins were indicted on these charges today by an Ada County Grand Jury.

Both are now in police custody and being booked into the Ada County Jail…

Daniel Erhlick is being held on the murder charge without bond.

Melissa Jenkins is jailed on the murder charge with a bond amount of two- million dollars.

The arrests are a major step in the investigation… but the investigation into the death of Robert Manwill is still very much ongoing.

Detectives are asking anyone with any information on Robert … or the suspects… Ehrlick and Jenkins… particularly their activities the week leading up to Robert’s reported disappearance July 24th… is urged to contact Boise Police detectives through Crime Stoppers – 343-COPS.

The defendants will be arraigned tomorrow, Wednesday, August 19th, at 9:30 a.m. before the Honorable Judge Deborah Bail.

In the interest of a fair trial for those accused, we at Boise Police now put Robert’s case in the competent hands of the Ada County Prosecutors.

Again, on behalf of ALL the men and woman in law enforcement who searched for Robert and assisted in investigating his case… I thank this community for their help and support.

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Background:

Robert was reported missing to Boise Police Friday evening, July 24th at 10:11 p.m. from the the Oak Park apartment complex 2800 W. Cherry, near Vista and Targee.

Robert's disappearance sparked an eleven-day, multi agency search, that involved Boise Police, The FBI, Team Adam from the Center for Missing and Exploited Children, Meridian, Garden City, and the Idaho State Police, Ada and Canyon County Sheriff Offices, agents from Probation and Parole, and officers with the Treasure Valley Metro Violent Crimes task Force.
http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/Police/NewsReleases/2009/page45017.aspx



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 19, 2009, 01:41:46 AM
I had to sign off for awhile. I am just so sad and so angry. Look at those monsters above.

Little dude deserved so much better. The system let this happen. He may have died at the monsters hands but the system that is place to protect children let little dude be unsupervised around these monsters. The court and the judge ordered Robert's daddy to hand him over for visits and an extended summer visitation.

That this could have prevented, the fact that ALL THE SIGNS were there that something like this could happen to any of the children that were allowed to be unsupervised around these monsters, makes me want to scream.

I won't say what I really want to say or I will see the big red ban button.

I hope they both burn in hell. Prison is too good for them. Especially mom who had the balls to appear at the funeral weeping and sucking up the sympathy and couldn't even spit out a decent eulogy for little man. The child that she carried in her womb and gave birth to.

My guess on future arrests is the brother or the guy with the "stolen" truck.

I am so sorry little man. You deserved so much better. You deserved to be safe and happy and hugged. You are my superhero.



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 19, 2009, 04:16:02 AM
(http://i32.tinypic.com/2rw4xz6.jpg)

Lighting a candle for Robert and saying a prayer for his family.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 19, 2009, 07:20:13 AM
Pink,that is beautiful.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 09:41:56 AM
Pink,that is beautiful.   ::MonkeyAngel::
That is beautiful. Blink, I'm curious, another arrest. Perhaps the man whose property was searched, or Daniel's brother or father?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cookie on August 19, 2009, 10:22:57 AM
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The boy’s date of death may now be in question. Kerns asked for the public’s help offering any details of the activities of Jenkins or Ehrlick in the week leading up to July 24th.
http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug1809-manwill.f33b6dd1.html

This is just awful; those two may have murdered Robert earlier in the week and then dumped him in the canal. That may explain the friend’s car being “stolen/borrowed” well before Robert was reported missing. They also would have had time to come up with their phony story and the mother’s alibi that had her at work when the supposed disappearance happened.

Just horrible and unbelievable  ::MonkeyNoNo::


The nerve of that lowlife, playing the grieving the mother. Just that fact alone will bring more wrath down on her. I say good!!!

Yes! she was grieving for herself not for Robert imo...She knew she would be caught and was feeling sorry for herself...the biotch!
and yes, who really knows when Robert was murdered? LE will find out now that she is behind bars...I hope they nail both of these idiots for death! or at least put them in general population...


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cookie on August 19, 2009, 10:24:40 AM
I had to sign off for awhile. I am just so sad and so angry. Look at those monsters above.

Little dude deserved so much better. The system let this happen. He may have died at the monsters hands but the system that is place to protect children let little dude be unsupervised around these monsters. The court and the judge ordered Robert's daddy to hand him over for visits and an extended summer visitation.

That this could have prevented, the fact that ALL THE SIGNS were there that something like this could happen to any of the children that were allowed to be unsupervised around these monsters, makes me want to scream.

I won't say what I really want to say or I will see the big red ban button.

I hope they both burn in hell. Prison is too good for them. Especially mom who had the balls to appear at the funeral weeping and sucking up the sympathy and couldn't even spit out a decent eulogy for little man. The child that she carried in her womb and gave birth to.

My guess on future arrests is the brother or the guy with the "stolen" truck.

I am so sorry little man. You deserved so much better. You deserved to be safe and happy and hugged. You are my superhero.


awwwww Pinky! He did deserve so much more....a hug goes to you ....


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 19, 2009, 11:03:56 AM
Very long article full of info on both of these evil people...

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He had dreams of being a wildland firefighter but faced drug and legal problems and managed to battle the flames only as part of a prison work crew.

She was something of a rambler, drifting through relationships - having three children with three men in less than seven years - on the hunt for the unconditional love she felt as a little girl.



http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/869934.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: MonkeyinSC on August 19, 2009, 11:04:21 AM
God Bless this Little Boy with the Big Smile.

My sources tell me this will not be the only arrest in this case.  What do you say?

B

I think Ehrlick's brother may be arrested for being an accomplice after the fact (helped dispose of the body). Perhaps even that Wallis (stolen truck) guy... I don't think he (Wallis) participated in any way, but he must have known what happened after the fact...(why else would he notify LE about the stolen truck AFTER it was returned?) IMO


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Lovinlife on August 19, 2009, 11:14:53 AM
Welcome to the cage MonkeyinSC! ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: MonkeyinSC on August 19, 2009, 11:31:23 AM
Welcome to the cage MonkeyinSC! ::MonkeyCool::

Thank you so much, Lovinlife ! I've been a lurker now for several months, and I am grateful I was allowed to be part of this awesome group of Monkeys, although I wish it was under happier circumstances  ::MonkeyWaa::
This is one of the cases that first brought me to SM (along with poor Lindsey Baum) and has kept me in awe of all the masterful sleuthing abilities all you Monkeys have.

RIP, dear little Robert.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on August 19, 2009, 11:43:57 AM


I think Ehrlick's brother may be arrested for being an accomplice after the fact (helped dispose of the body). Perhaps even that Wallis (stolen truck) guy... I don't think he (Wallis) participated in any way, but he must have known what happened after the fact...(why else would he notify LE about the stolen truck AFTER it was returned?) IMO

I agree MonkeyinSC and welcome!

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Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 19, 2009, 11:53:29 AM
Prosecuter is speaking live now

http://www.ktvb.com/video/?nvid=57412&live=yes


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: dadsgrl1255 on August 19, 2009, 11:59:13 AM
http://www.ktvb.com/video/index.html?nvid=390332

 Why did she have any visitation with him after she was charged with breaking her other child's skull?  Terrible!  Just terrible!

As for the circumstances with the Evan Wallis's SUV, from what i understand they found the SUV not far from the house right after returning home, not much time to call the police before it was returned.  I pray that he was not involved, but also that everyone involved is caught.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Northern Rose on August 19, 2009, 11:59:14 AM
 ::cartwheel::  WELCOME MonkeyinSC   ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Northern Rose on August 19, 2009, 12:00:34 PM
Mother, boyfriend charged with murdering Robert Manwill

BOISE - Boise Police say the mother of Robert Manwill and her boyfriend have been charged with first degree murder.
Authorities made the announcement Thursday evening at a press conference with Treasure Valley media.

Melissa Jenkins, 30, and her boyfriend, Daniel Ehrlick, were arrested and indicted by an Ada County grand jury Tuesday with the murder charges of Robert Manwill. Ehrlick, 36, was also indicted for failing to report a death to law enforcement while Jenkins was charged as an accessory for failing to report her son’s death to law enforcement.

The 8-year-old boy was last seen outside the apartment where his mother lives in Boise on the night of Friday July 24.

"The arrests are a major step in the investigation," said Jim Kerns, Boise Police deputy chief. "But the investigation of Robert Manwill's death is still very much ongoing."

Police did not elaborate as to why they arrested the two.

Robert's body was pulled from the New York Canal about 14 miles away Aug. 3. It was then when police say the case was classified as a murder investigation.

The Ada County Coroner's office said forensic dental information helped positively identify the body found in the canal.

"I sent a strong message on behalf of Boise Police and all those in this community who were touched by the tragic, untimely death of this little boy that justice would not be denied for Robert Manwill," Kerns said.

Ehrlick and Jenkins will be arraigned Wednesday at 9:30 a.m. before Judge Deborah Bail. Ehrlick and Jenkins are being held on a $2 million bond.

Prosecutors have 60 days to decide whether they will seek the death penalty.

Some residents at the Oak Ridge apartments say they are hurt and angry at the latest developments. Some have spent hours planning vigils and supporting Robert's mother.

"We ended up giving our hearts and everything toward her (Melissa Jenkins) as a mother," said Kandi Davidson, an Oak Ridge resident. "She came up to my kids and was all cuddly and played innocent and come to find out that she had something to do with it. It's pretty disturbing."

Dave Bieter, Boise mayor, made the following statement about the case:

"I commend the Boise Police Department for conducting a diligent, organized and thorough investigation that has successfully resulted in charges being filed against two individuals," Bieter said.

"While the presumption of innocence must be maintained, I hope and have faith that justice will be served in this case and that our citizens -- who have shown incredible compassion in the face of tragedy -- can begin to mend from the loss of Robert Manwill."

Detectives are asking anyone with any information on Robert or the suspects, Ehrlick and Jenkins particularly their activities the week leading up to Robert’s reported disappearance July 24 is urged to contact Boise Police detectives through Crime Stoppers at 208-343-COPS.

http://www.2news.tv/news/local/53619927.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on August 19, 2009, 12:02:48 PM
Prosecuter is speaking live now

http://www.ktvb.com/video/?nvid=57412&live=yes

Thank you N2.  I just missed it.  Can you tell us what they said?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 19, 2009, 12:03:11 PM
Indictment: Daniel Erhlick Jr. tortured and beat Robert Manwill to death
By Patrick Orr - porr@idahostatesman.com
Published: 08/19/09

 
 
 
Katherine Jones / Idaho Statesman
Day 3 of the search Melissa Scott Jenkins, left, and Daniel Edward Ehrlick Jr. appear together July 27 as Boise police called for public help in the search for 8-year-old Robert Manwill. Ehrlick attended only one more of the daily briefings, where family members often joined police.
 
AP Photo
In this photo provided on Tuesday Aug. 18, 2009 by the Ada County Jail, Daniel Ehrlick Jr., 36, is shown. Ehrlick was indicted for first-degree murder by an Ada County grand jury in the death of his girlfriend's 8-year-old son, Robert Manwill.
 
AP Photo
In this photo provided on Tuesday Aug. 18, 2009 by the Ada County Jail, Melissa Jenkins, 30, is shown. Jenkins, 30, the mother of Robert Manwill, was indicted for first-degree murder by an Ada County grand jury in the death of her 8-year-old son, Robert Manwill.
Eight-year-old Robert Manwill was killed by Daniel Erhlick Jr., who tortured and beat him to death while Manwill's mother, Melissa Jenkins, hid her son from government authorities who might have helped him.

So says an Ada County grand jury indictment unsealed Wednesday morning in 4th District Court.

Ehrlick Jr., 36, inflicted repeated acts of blunt-force trauma to the abdomen and/or the head of Manwill with his hands, knees, fists and/or feet and/or by other means of physical force, physical abuse or emotional abuse, according to the indictment. The beatings caused bruises, abdominal bleeding and injuries and head injuries that prompted Manwill's death on or about July 24.

The indictment alleges that Ehrlick Jr. intentionally tortured Manwill "with the intent to cause suffering, to execute vengeance or to satisfy some sadistic inclination by inflicting on Robert G. Manwill extreme or prolonged acts of brutality with the intent to cause suffering."

Jenkins, 30, a mother of three, had knowledge of the beatings and repeatedly hid her son from authorities and others who might have intervened. She also failed in her duty to seek medical attention for her son's injuries, despite knowing Manwill "was being subjected to escalating physical violence” by Erhlick, according to the indictment.

Neither entered a plea and are expected to do so on Sept. 1.

An Ada County grand jury on Tuesday indicted Jenkins and Ehrlick Jr. on charges of first-degree murder. Both also are charged with failing to report a death. Police have provided no details about the evidence they have.

In Idaho, first-degree murder is punishable by up to life in prison or death.

Local, state and federal agencies logged 9,000 hours in the search and investigation after Robert was reported missing July 24, Deputy Boise Chief Jim Kerns said. Thousands of people volunteered in the 10-day search: “Probably no other case in Boise history has touched so many people,” Kerns said Tuesday. Robert’s body was found Aug. 3 in the New York Canal near Kuna.

Prosecutors have 60 days to decide whether to seek the death penalty. Police asked the public for information about the pair’s activities in the week before Robert was reported missing.

Local, state and federal agencies logged 9,000 hours in the search and investigation after Robert was reported missing July 24, Deputy Boise Chief Jim Kerns said. Thousands of people volunteered in the 10-day search: “Probably no other case in Boise history has touched so many people,” Kerns said Tuesday. Robert’s body was found Aug. 3 in the New York Canal near Kuna.

Prosecutors have 60 days to decide whether to seek the death penalty. Police asked the public for information about the pair’s activities in the week before Robert was reported missing.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/870337.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 19, 2009, 12:05:46 PM
Prosecuter is speaking live now

http://www.ktvb.com/video/?nvid=57412&live=yes

Thank you N2.  I just missed it.  Can you tell us what they said?



The Idahostatesman article says it all. It is all just so disturbing. The poor child was systematically tortured to death and his lousy mother helped hide that fact!!


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Northern Rose on August 19, 2009, 12:07:36 PM
Eight-year-old Robert Manwill was killed by Daniel Erhlick Jr., who tortured and beat him to death while Manwill's mother, Melissa Jenkins, hid her son from government authorities who might have helped him.

That first paragraph made me physically ill.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on August 19, 2009, 12:12:39 PM
Prosecuter is speaking live now

http://www.ktvb.com/video/?nvid=57412&live=yes

Thank you N2.  I just missed it.  Can you tell us what they said?



The Idahostatesman article says it all. It is all just so disturbing. The poor child was systematically tortured to death and his lousy mother helped hide that fact!!

Thank you.  There are no words to express my feelings right now.   ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: dadsgrl1255 on August 19, 2009, 12:13:32 PM
what do they mean she hid him?  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 12:15:44 PM
Welcome to the cage MonkeyinSC! ::MonkeyCool::
WELCOME  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 19, 2009, 12:20:04 PM
Judge reads indictment against Jenkins, Ehrlick
August 19th, 2009- UNCUT

http://www.ktvb.com/video/index.html?nvid=390500


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 19, 2009, 12:21:43 PM
what do they mean she hid him?  ::MonkeyShocked::

It means she knew he was beating Robert and did nothing to help him. She didn't call the police. She didn't call 911. She didn't take him to a hospital.

There is no words. I need a break.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Northern Rose on August 19, 2009, 12:23:04 PM
Timeline of suspects in Robert Manwill’s death

1992

Daniel Ehrlick Jr. spends the first of several stints in prison. He has been convicted of burglary, battery and possession of drug paraphernalia.

JUNE 2001

Melissa Jenkins' first son, Robert, is born. A month later, Jenkins marries his dad, Charles Lee Manwill. They divorce about a year later.

MAY 2003

Jenkins is married again, this time to Frank Seiber. They divorce in 2006.

NOVEMBER 2006

Jenkins' second child, RayLynn Scott Ames, is born. The girl's father, Russell Ames, and Jenkins never marry.

2007

Jenkins meets Ehrlick Jr. at a poker game, according to family and friends.

JANUARY 2008

Jenkins ends up in a hospital with pregnancy complications and asks Charles Manwill to take custody of Robert.

FEBRUARY 2008

Jenkins has another son, Aidan.

OCTOBER 2008

Aidan's skull is fractured. He is put into the custody of Idaho Health and Welfare. Five months later, Jenkins pleads guilty to a misdemeanor charge of injury to a child and is sentenced to 29 days of work release, fined $75.50 and put on probation through March 2011. According to court records, she "did willfully inflict" the wound by "striking the child's head on a surface." By summer 2009, Aidan is back with Jenkins and Ehrlick. He has since been put back into state custody, according to family and friends.

JULY 24, 2009

10:11 p.m. Robert is reported missing from the Oak Park Village apartment complex near Vista Avenue, launching a massive search.

JULY 27, 2009

Robert's family - including Jenkins and her boyfriend, Ehrlick Jr. - attend a press conference calling for help.

JULY 30, 2009

A forensics team searches the apartment where Robert was staying with his mother and Ehrlick Jr. They remove items and tow a vehicle.

JULY 31, 2009

An organized search brings out an estimated 2,300 volunteers.

Police report that they have evidence indicating Robert may have been injured or could be a "victim of a tragic event."

Saint Alphonsus Regional Medical Center confirms that Ehrlick Jr. had been admitted and released from the hospital. He was treated for mental issues, according to a family member.

That night, investigators search a house and dig up its backyard on the 6600 block of Southdale Avenue. Resident Evan Wallis said he knows Robert's family but doesn't know why police are searching. He tells police someone stole his Chevy Suburban on July 22.

AUG. 3, 2009

A boy's body is found in the New York Canal near Cloverdale Road in southern Ada County. In contrast with previous press updates, Robert's family does not attend this news conference.

AUG. 5, 2009

Dental records confirm that the body is Robert's. Boise police say the autopsy showed Robert's death was "not an accident" and say they are beginning a homicide investigation.

AUG. 18, 2009

Jenkins and Ehrlick Jr. are indicted by a grand jury on a charge of first-degree murder in connection with Robert's death.

http://fwix.com/article/22_4d4eaa5a9d#


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 12:23:23 PM
Eight-year-old Robert Manwill was killed by Daniel Erhlick Jr., who tortured and beat him to death while Manwill's mother, Melissa Jenkins, hid her son from government authorities who might have helped him.

That first paragraph made me physically ill.
Dear God, that poor little boy  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 12:24:02 PM
what do they mean she hid him?  ::MonkeyShocked::
I don't understand that either.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 12:24:42 PM
what do they mean she hid him?  ::MonkeyShocked::

It means she knew he was beating Robert and did nothing to help him. She didn't call the police. She didn't call 911. She didn't take him to a hospital.

There is no words. I need a break.
WTH I hope the both of them rot.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 19, 2009, 12:25:26 PM
Welcome MonkeyinSC.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 19, 2009, 12:26:09 PM
what do they mean she hid him?  ::MonkeyShocked::

It means she knew he was beating Robert and did nothing to help him. She didn't call the police. She didn't call 911. She didn't take him to a hospital.

There is no words. I need a break.
WTH I hope the both of them rot.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on August 19, 2009, 12:26:38 PM
(http://i32.tinypic.com/2rw4xz6.jpg)

Lighting a candle for Robert and saying a prayer for his family.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m

Bringing forward. 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Northern Rose on August 19, 2009, 12:28:41 PM
what do they mean she hid him?  ::MonkeyShocked::
I don't understand that either.

IMO probably hid him/ and or told CPS that he was out somewhere when came to check up on her from and the kids based on her getting the $75.00 fine and probation for cracking her other child's skull.  The judge that gave her the $75.00 fine is just as culpable for what happened to Robert and should also be facing charges and joining these two on death row IMO.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Northern Rose on August 19, 2009, 12:30:03 PM
what do they mean she hid him?  ::MonkeyShocked::

It means she knew he was beating Robert and did nothing to help him. She didn't call the police. She didn't call 911. She didn't take him to a hospital.

There is no words. I need a break.

((((((((((((((((((((PINK))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 12:32:02 PM
Pink  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 12:32:25 PM
Thanks Northern Rose for the timeline  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 19, 2009, 12:41:39 PM
Wow - I just saw this.  I am so heart broken right now   ::MonkeyWaa:: 

This poor little guy must have suffered so badly.  I hope these SOB's rot in he!!   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: trimmonthelake on August 19, 2009, 12:45:15 PM
Wow - I just saw this.  I am so heart broken right now   ::MonkeyWaa:: 

This poor little guy must have suffered so badly.  I hope these SOB's rot in he!!   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

Me too,Leroy.......me too.    ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 12:47:38 PM
Wow - I just saw this.  I am so heart broken right now   ::MonkeyWaa:: 

This poor little guy must have suffered so badly.  I hope these SOB's rot in he!!   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

Me too,Leroy.......me too.    ::MonkeyNoNo::
I hope the guards turn their backs that is what both of them deserve.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: MonkeyinSC on August 19, 2009, 12:49:57 PM
::cartwheel::  WELCOME MonkeyinSC   ::cartwheel::

Cece, NoRose, Trimmon - Thank y'all for the warm welcome! :smt039


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 19, 2009, 12:52:20 PM
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Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Northern Rose on August 19, 2009, 12:52:20 PM
  UPDATE: Grand Jury says mom, boyfriend tortured Robert Manwill

BOISE – Police say they know who is responsible for killing Robert Manwill: his mother and her boyfriend.

Melissa Scott Jenkins, 30 and Daniel Edward Ehrlick, 36 were taken into custody Tuesday afternoon – both are charged with first-degree murder. Ehrlick is also charged with failure to report a death to law enforcement, while Jenkins is charged as an accessory for failing to report Manwill’s death to law enforcement.

Manwill’s body was found in a Kuna canal on August 10th. Police said the boy was a victim of homicide and vowed to find his killer.

The indictment handed down by an Ada County Grand Jury accuses that the pair "tortured and murdered Manwill by inflicting extreme or prolonged pain with intent to cause suffering or to satisfy some sadistic inclination by inflicting repeated acts of blunt force trauma or abdomen and/or head with his hands, knees, fists and/or feet."

The indictment also accuses Ehrlick and Jenkins of lying to police about the events surrounding Manwill's death

The boy was reported missing to police on July 24th. The community quickly responded, with posters featuring the boy’s face popping up all over town, and volunteers spending spare time searching for the child.

During an arraignment Wednesday morning, Jenkins appeared tearful and could be heard sniffling.

Judge Deborah Bail asked both Jenkins and Ehrlick wether they intended to plead guilty or not-guilty. The judge outlined the rights and loss of rights tied to each choice.

Pleas were not entered in the case, instead being delayed until September 1st so that the newly appointed attorney in the case could get up to speed.

Both defendants could face the death penalty in the case, though Ada County Prosecutor Greg Bower said a decision has not been made to that end. His office has 60 days to make that decision.

"We have assigned a veteran team of prosecutors to this case," Ada County Prosecutor Greg Bower said.

The prosecutor said it was not yet clear if the pair would be tried together or separately.

Boise Police Deputy Chief Jim Kerns asked for the public’s additional help offering any details of the activities of Jenkins or Ehrlick in the week leading up to July 24th.

Kerns did not take questions at the news briefing, which did not give the media a chance to ask follow up questions that may better illustrate particulars of the case – including why they believe Ehrlick and Jenkins are responsible.

“Probably no other case in Boise history has touched so many people,” Boise Police Deputy Chief Jim Kerns said Tuesday night.

The case started to rapidly change on Thursday July 30th. That night, police began searching the Jenkins' Boise Bench apartment, removing materials from the home, including cabinets, computers and more. Police also towed a vehicle from the complex.

The pair has now been indicted by an Ada County grand jury, and are being booked into the Ada County Jail on the charges. Ehrlick will be held without bond, while Jenkins will be held on a $2 million bond.

Ehrlick and Jenkins appeared behind Kerns at each news conference until the day after Jenkins’ home was searched. Ehrlick has not been seen in public since. Jenkins was at the boy’s funeral and at a news event the day her son’s body was identified.

Jenkins has a past criminal history that involves hurting children.

On October 19, 2008 police said a baby boy had been injured. Jenkins was arrested and charged with felony injury to a child. The child suffered serious head injuries and was taken to a local hospital for treatment. The child was taken into the custody of the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare.

Court documents say Jenkins hit her 9-month-old son's head on a surface. The infant suffered a fractured skull that caused not only physical pain, but mental suffering as well.

Since the boy’s disappearance and before his arrest, Ehrlick had been in and out of the hospital for unspecified treatments, according to family.

Kerns said the investigation into Manwill’s death continues – and says if anyone has information that may help them, to call Boise Police Dispatch at 377-6790.

Boise Mayor Dave Bieter issued a statement reacting to the charges Tuesday night.

"While the presumption of innocence must be maintained, I hope and have faith that justice will be served in this case and that our citizens who have shown incredible compassion in the face of tragedy, can begin to mend from the loss of Robert Manwill," Bieter said.


http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug1809-manwill.f33b6dd1.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 19, 2009, 12:57:31 PM
Wow..I am glad little Robert is finally getting justice. 

I feel like all the wind has been knocked out of me to hear how he died.  Just so terrible..to be brutally tortured and beaten to death.  The one person a child should be able to trust, their mother, stood by and not only let this happen but hid him.

I am thinking like you No Rose..she hid from the family, she hid him from CPS when they visited..not only did she not help him...she was sending him to his death. She let her boyfriend physically abuse him and did nothing. 

This makes the Grandfather's remarks even easier to understand..he couldn't take Robert fishing...he said she was always on Robert..and then when he said that his son said Robert was outback..he said he saw a child at a distance that looked like Robert..but couldn't tell really if it was Robert..I think the grandfather suspected that his son murdered Robert, but he couldn't prove it.


My heart is just aching for this poor little boy..and all the 1000's of others out there that are murdered each year. 

It will be interesting to find out who else was involved..his brother, the neighbor, another family member...?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: JessStar on August 19, 2009, 01:00:13 PM
Unbelievably heartbreaking. My God what this little child must have endured. what pure inexplicable evil. I don't know what else I can say. :-(


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: islandmonkey on August 19, 2009, 01:09:30 PM
Indictment: Daniel Erhlick Jr. tortured and beat Robert Manwill to death
By Patrick Orr - porr@idahostatesman.com
Published: 08/19/09

 
 
 
Katherine Jones / Idaho Statesman
Day 3 of the search Melissa Scott Jenkins, left, and Daniel Edward Ehrlick Jr. appear together July 27 as Boise police called for public help in the search for 8-year-old Robert Manwill. Ehrlick attended only one more of the daily briefings, where family members often joined police.
 
AP Photo
In this photo provided on Tuesday Aug. 18, 2009 by the Ada County Jail, Daniel Ehrlick Jr., 36, is shown. Ehrlick was indicted for first-degree murder by an Ada County grand jury in the death of his girlfriend's 8-year-old son, Robert Manwill.
 
AP Photo
In this photo provided on Tuesday Aug. 18, 2009 by the Ada County Jail, Melissa Jenkins, 30, is shown. Jenkins, 30, the mother of Robert Manwill, was indicted for first-degree murder by an Ada County grand jury in the death of her 8-year-old son, Robert Manwill.
Eight-year-old Robert Manwill was killed by Daniel Erhlick Jr., who tortured and beat him to death while Manwill's mother, Melissa Jenkins, hid her son from government authorities who might have helped him.

So says an Ada County grand jury indictment unsealed Wednesday morning in 4th District Court.

Ehrlick Jr., 36, inflicted repeated acts of blunt-force trauma to the abdomen and/or the head of Manwill with his hands, knees, fists and/or feet and/or by other means of physical force, physical abuse or emotional abuse, according to the indictment. The beatings caused bruises, abdominal bleeding and injuries and head injuries that prompted Manwill's death on or about July 24.

The indictment alleges that Ehrlick Jr. intentionally tortured Manwill "with the intent to cause suffering, to execute vengeance or to satisfy some sadistic inclination by inflicting on Robert G. Manwill extreme or prolonged acts of brutality with the intent to cause suffering."

Jenkins, 30, a mother of three, had knowledge of the beatings and repeatedly hid her son from authorities and others who might have intervened. She also failed in her duty to seek medical attention for her son's injuries, despite knowing Manwill "was being subjected to escalating physical violence” by Erhlick, according to the indictment.

Neither entered a plea and are expected to do so on Sept. 1.

An Ada County grand jury on Tuesday indicted Jenkins and Ehrlick Jr. on charges of first-degree murder. Both also are charged with failing to report a death. Police have provided no details about the evidence they have.

In Idaho, first-degree murder is punishable by up to life in prison or death.

Local, state and federal agencies logged 9,000 hours in the search and investigation after Robert was reported missing July 24, Deputy Boise Chief Jim Kerns said. Thousands of people volunteered in the 10-day search: “Probably no other case in Boise history has touched so many people,” Kerns said Tuesday. Robert’s body was found Aug. 3 in the New York Canal near Kuna.

Prosecutors have 60 days to decide whether to seek the death penalty. Police asked the public for information about the pair’s activities in the week before Robert was reported missing.

Local, state and federal agencies logged 9,000 hours in the search and investigation after Robert was reported missing July 24, Deputy Boise Chief Jim Kerns said. Thousands of people volunteered in the 10-day search: “Probably no other case in Boise history has touched so many people,” Kerns said Tuesday. Robert’s body was found Aug. 3 in the New York Canal near Kuna.

Prosecutors have 60 days to decide whether to seek the death penalty. Police asked the public for information about the pair’s activities in the week before Robert was reported missing.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/870337.html

I'm so sad and heartbroken that the system seems to continually fail thsese children, and to find out he was brutally tortured while his mother allowed it is just too much. May they rot in hell and that's really too good for what they did to Robert, but he's an  ::MonkeyAngel:: now and will never be hurt again nor never know the disappointment and sorrow that someone (egg donor) that should have protected him allowed this to happen. RIP Lil man


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 19, 2009, 01:09:32 PM
I still don’t understand why Robert was even visiting those filthy people. That worthless mother couldn’t even keep custody of any of her children. There is a reason for that; she didn’t want to have to care for them. And what I really don’t understand is why that egg donor let him come to visit and was ultimately responsible for him being beaten to death?  Well, she is someone that KC would be safe sharing a cell with. Two peas in a pod the way I see it.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 01:29:09 PM
I still don’t understand why Robert was even visiting those filthy people. That worthless mother couldn’t even keep custody of any of her children. There is a reason for that; she didn’t want to have to care for them. And what I really don’t understand is why that egg donor let him come to visit and was ultimately responsible for him being beaten to death?  Well, she is someone that KC would be safe sharing a cell with. Two peas in a pod the way I see it.
I must have missed something or misunderstood. How long had Robert been visiting at his mother's apt? I thought I read for the summer. How long was this horrific abuse going on? Was abuse done while he was there for awhile, or was all the abuse on one day that escallated to Robert's murder? I keep thinking about the article about how well Robert was doing in his new school, and grief comes over me. He was so trying and was doing so well.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 19, 2009, 01:34:50 PM
I still don’t understand why Robert was even visiting those filthy people. That worthless mother couldn’t even keep custody of any of her children. There is a reason for that; she didn’t want to have to care for them. And what I really don’t understand is why that egg donor let him come to visit and was ultimately responsible for him being beaten to death?  Well, she is someone that KC would be safe sharing a cell with. Two peas in a pod the way I see it.
I must have missed something or misunderstood. How long had Robert been visiting at his mother's apt? I thought I read for the summer. How long was this horrific abuse going on? Was abuse done while he was there for awhile, or was all the abuse on one day that escallated to Robert's murder? I keep thinking about the article about how well Robert was doing in his new school, and grief comes over me. He was so trying and was doing so well.


Not sure how long Robert had been visiting. The grand jury indictment makes it sound like the beatings and abuse went on for at least a few days to several days or more. Might have to wait for trial to find out the real time frame if we ever do.......


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Leroy on August 19, 2009, 01:37:40 PM
Does anyone know how long you can live with internal bleeding?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 19, 2009, 02:10:56 PM
Does anyone know how long you can live with internal bleeding?
I don't know Leroy, but could be for a while and depending on the injury.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 02:15:02 PM
I still don’t understand why Robert was even visiting those filthy people. That worthless mother couldn’t even keep custody of any of her children. There is a reason for that; she didn’t want to have to care for them. And what I really don’t understand is why that egg donor let him come to visit and was ultimately responsible for him being beaten to death?  Well, she is someone that KC would be safe sharing a cell with. Two peas in a pod the way I see it.
I must have missed something or misunderstood. How long had Robert been visiting at his mother's apt? I thought I read for the summer. How long was this horrific abuse going on? Was abuse done while he was there for awhile, or was all the abuse on one day that escallated to Robert's murder? I keep thinking about the article about how well Robert was doing in his new school, and grief comes over me. He was so trying and was doing so well.


Not sure how long Robert had been visiting. The grand jury indictment makes it sound like the beatings and abuse went on for at least a few days to several days or more. Might have to wait for trial to find out the real time frame if we ever do.......
Thank-you  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 19, 2009, 03:29:45 PM
Updated article
 
 

 UPDATE: Indictment says boyfriend tortured Robert Manwill

12:01 PM MDT on Wednesday, August 19, 2009

KTVB.COM



 

Police say Daniel Ehrlick and Melissa Jenkins killed Robert Manwill.


BOISE –- For the first time today we are learning what happened to 8-year old Robert Manwill, and the details coming out of the courtroom this morning are very disturbing! 

Robert's mother and his mother's boyfriend were arrested last night and each charged with first-degree murder.

Melissa Jenkins, 30, and Daniel Ehrlick, 36, had their first court appearance in Boise this morning, at which time graphic details surrounding Robert's death were read in court.

According to this grand jury indictment, this was not an isolated event that killed this little boy, but rather the tragic conclusion of prolonged abuse.

This morning, those who were caring for the little boy were ushered into the courtroom wearing their jail uniforms -- Robert's mother, Melissa Jenkins and then her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick.



 Hear the detailed indictment Because Melissa is illiterate, the judge gave a formal reading of the charges against her, which also outlines the charges against Ehrlick.

"Melissa Scott Jenkins, on or between June 2009 and the 24th day of July 2009, in the County of Ada, State of Idaho, did aid or abet another, Daniel Ehrlick, who did unlawfully and with malice aforethought kill and murder Robert G. Manwill," read 4th District Judge Deborah Bail. " And/or by inflicting upon Robert Manwill extreme or prolonged acts of brutality with the intent to cause suffering, to execute vengence or to satisfy some sadistic inclination, by inflicting repeated acts of blunt force trauma to the abdomen and/or head of Robert Manwill."

The indictment says Ehrlick did so by, essentially, beating the child -- causing internal bleeding, bruising and swelling of the brain.

In the mother's indictment it says she did not protect her child from such abuse, and goes further to say she hid evidence of his mistreatment from those who could have helped.

If convicted, both Jenkins and Ehrlick could face the death penalty.

"This could be a death penalty case. Does that mean more time will be needed? More time will be taken? How is this treated differently?" asked NewsChannel 7.

"Well, the difference, if the death penalty is sought is that  it requires death qualified counsel on the other side, obviously the determination in this case of whether to seek the death penalty is one we'll make as soon as possible," said Ada County Prosecutor Greg Bower.

The prosecution has 60 in which to make that decision.

The prosecutor said it was not yet clear if the pair would be tried together or separately.

The couple is scheduled to enter their pleas on September 1st.

Robert Manwill’s body was found in a Kuna canal on August 3. Police said the boy was a victim of homicide and vowed to find his killer.

The boy was reported missing to police on July 24. The community quickly responded, with posters featuring the boy’s face popping up all over town, and volunteers spending spare time searching for the child.

Boise Police Deputy Chief Jim Kerns asked for the public’s additional help offering any details of the activities of Jenkins or Ehrlick in the week leading up to July 24.

Kerns did not take questions at the news briefing, which did not give the media a chance to ask follow up questions that may better illustrate particulars of the case – including why they believe Ehrlick and Jenkins are responsible.

“Probably no other case in Boise history has touched so many people,” Kerns said.

The case started to rapidly change on July 30. That night, police began searching the Jenkins' Boise Bench apartment, removing materials from the home, including cabinets, computers and more. Police also towed a vehicle from the complex.

Ehrlick and Jenkins appeared behind Kerns at each news conference until the day after Jenkins’ home was searched. Ehrlick has not been seen in public since. Jenkins was at the boy’s funeral and at a news event the day her son’s body was identified.

Jenkins has a past criminal history that involves hurting children.

On October 19, 2008, police said a baby boy had been injured. Jenkins was arrested and charged with felony injury to a child. The child suffered serious head injuries and was taken to a local hospital for treatment. The child was taken into the custody of the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare.

Court documents say Jenkins hit her 9-month-old son's head on a surface. The infant suffered a fractured skull that caused not only physical pain, but mental suffering as well.

Since the boy’s disappearance and before his arrest, Ehrlick had been in and out of the hospital for unspecified treatments, according to family.

Kerns said the investigation into Manwill’s death continues – and says if anyone has information that may help them, to call Boise Police Dispatch at 377-6790.

Boise Mayor Dave Bieter issued a statement reacting to the charges Tuesday night.

"While the presumption of innocence must be maintained, I hope and have faith that justice will be served in this case and that our citizens who have shown incredible compassion in the face of tragedy, can begin to mend from the loss of Robert Manwill," Bieter said.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-aug1809-manwill.f33b6dd1.html



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 19, 2009, 03:40:30 PM
Now how will the defense use the fact that Melissa is illiterate to her advantage?  ::MonkeyNoNo::  If this abuse has been going on since June, someone must have seen something wrong with Robert. How about the boyfriend's father? I hope the judge that virtually let this evil woman go with a slap on the wrist for what she did to her baby, is really tormented by this, really tormented.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: MonkeyinSC on August 19, 2009, 03:51:43 PM
I still don’t understand why Robert was even visiting those filthy people. That worthless mother couldn’t even keep custody of any of her children. There is a reason for that; she didn’t want to have to care for them. And what I really don’t understand is why that egg donor let him come to visit and was ultimately responsible for him being beaten to death?  Well, she is someone that KC would be safe sharing a cell with. Two peas in a pod the way I see it.

<N2WISHN, thanks for the welcome ! >

IIRC, it was a court-ordered visitation, the dad "had to" comply


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: LynneinMd. on August 19, 2009, 04:10:35 PM
They didn't enter a plea?  Let me do it for them, GUILTY!  Poor Robert, makes me sick to my stomach to think of what that child endured.  She niffled at court?  A little late for that, she will openly cry when they put the needle in.  What a mother.....


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Tina Bee on August 19, 2009, 06:05:17 PM
Why do monsters like these two get to have children?  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: SunnyinTX on August 19, 2009, 08:27:37 PM
These 2 people are MONSTERS!!  I can't think of a punishment that is horrible enough  and still legal to do to either of these animals.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 19, 2009, 08:41:51 PM
Leroy I know you asked earlier how long it would take to die from internal bleeding.  ::MonkeyWaa::

It just depends what organ in the body is bleeding out. From what I can gather, the aorta ruptures, you are gone in a minute or two. I think if your spleen ruptures without intervention it takes much longer.

I am not a doctor nor do I play one on tv, but I wish we knew if Robert died from internal bleeding.

From the way I read what the grand jury said about beatings in the abdominal area, internal bleeding from the spleen and/or ruptured intestines. If ruptured intestines, he could have been alive for a few days before he passed on from the infection.

Sorry Monkeys to be so graphic and like I said I am not a doctor/nurse. Just throwing these things out here because if he died because his intestines were ruptured, it would be a slow and agonizing death and that could be why the mom has such a high bond placed on her.

 ::MonkeyWaa:: Please if anyone is a medical professional, tell me I am wrong. I just had this horrible feeling today that poor Robert was sick and hurt and his mom did nothing to get him help.

Also, sorry this is so jumbled, I am just so upset about Robert tonight.  TIA JSM





Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 19, 2009, 08:56:35 PM
 ::MonkeyWaa:: Little Man, I am going to light a candle for you and pray for the hatred I feel for your sorry azz mom.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 19, 2009, 09:17:29 PM
These 2 people are MONSTERS!!  I can't think of a punishment that is horrible enough  and still legal to do to either of these animals.  ::MonkeyMad::

I agree Sunny.....I agree.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: MuffyBee on August 19, 2009, 09:25:45 PM
These 2 people are MONSTERS!!  I can't think of a punishment that is horrible enough  and still legal to do to either of these animals.  ::MonkeyMad::

I agree Sunny.....I agree.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

What the boyfreind did to Robert even once was bad enough, but it seems he did it a number of times  over time.   A slow and painful death.     And it just hurts me to know his OWN mother could have prevented it but she didn't.  She could have stopped it, but she didn't.  She could have gotten little Robert medical help but she didn't.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::   


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 19, 2009, 09:31:46 PM
These 2 people are MONSTERS!!  I can't think of a punishment that is horrible enough  and still legal to do to either of these animals.  ::MonkeyMad::

I agree Sunny.....I agree.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

What the boyfreind did to Robert even once was bad enough, but it seems he did it a number of times  over time.   A slow and painful death.     And it just hurts me to know his OWN mother could have prevented it but she didn't.  She could have stopped it, but she didn't.  She could have gotten little Robert medical help but she didn't.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::   
Yes Ma'am Muffy. ITA with you. I think the mom let that baby (he was a tiny boy) die a slow and painful death by not getting him help. I hope she suffers for eternity. JMO JSM 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: klaasend on August 19, 2009, 09:52:48 PM
Melissa Jenkins indictment:

http://www.ktvb.com/news/documents/Jenkins-indictment.pdf

Daniel Ehrlick indictment:

http://www.ktvb.com/news/documents/Ehrlick-indictment.pdf


There are too many monsters in this world  ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cookie on August 19, 2009, 09:58:00 PM
These 2 people are MONSTERS!!  I can't think of a punishment that is horrible enough  and still legal to do to either of these animals.  ::MonkeyMad::

I agree Sunny.....I agree.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

What the boyfreind did to Robert even once was bad enough, but it seems he did it a number of times  over time.   A slow and painful death.     And it just hurts me to know his OWN mother could have prevented it but she didn't.  She could have stopped it, but she didn't.  She could have gotten little Robert medical help but she didn't.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::   
Yes Ma'am Muffy. ITA with you. I think the mom let that baby (he was a tiny boy) die a slow and painful death by not getting him help. I hope she suffers for eternity. JMO JSM 

I agree..this is just horrible what happened to Robert...I bet his bio father would like to beat the crap out of those 2 who did this to Robert! I want to and he wasn't even my child!...poor little guy..he did not deserve any of this..none of them ever deserve it..but for some reason, these "parents" and I use the term loosely..become judge, jury and executioner for these little innocents...grrrr...these 2 should go straight to death in my opinion...no appeals, nothing...save the money that the state would use for their care by putting them to death and give the money that the state would save to missing and exploited children or some other entity for children..


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Babybear on August 19, 2009, 10:04:45 PM
These 2 people are MONSTERS!!  I can't think of a punishment that is horrible enough  and still legal to do to either of these animals.  ::MonkeyMad::

I agree Sunny.....I agree.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

What the boyfreind did to Robert even once was bad enough, but it seems he did it a number of times  over time.   A slow and painful death.     And it just hurts me to know his OWN mother could have prevented it but she didn't.  She could have stopped it, but she didn't.  She could have gotten little Robert medical help but she didn't.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::   
Yes Ma'am Muffy. ITA with you. I think the mom let that baby (he was a tiny boy) die a slow and painful death by not getting him help. I hope she suffers for eternity. JMO JSM 

I agree..this is just horrible what happened to Robert...I bet his bio father would like to beat the crap out of those 2 who did this to Robert! I want to and he wasn't even my child!...poor little guy..he did not deserve any of this..none of them ever deserve it..but for some reason, these "parents" and I use the term loosely..become judge, jury and executioner for these little innocents...grrrr...these 2 should go straight to death in my opinion...no appeals, nothing...save the money that the state would use for their care by putting them to death and give the money that the state would save to missing and exploited children or some other entity for children..

I see no reason why, with vermin such as these two, they couldn't just each be given a cyanide pill and asked if they might just want to avoid a trial.  No, they are too cowardly.  That big man beating that little boy.  How brave.  I wonder what would happen if a man his size beat him upside the head.  Would he try to run? Probably.  And the so-called mother, aiding and abetting.  I would call them animals but that would be insulting to animals.  There are no words.......


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 19, 2009, 10:05:51 PM
he stomped that little boy into the ground is what he did...he hit him until he fell then he kept on hitting him and stomping on him...prolonged means what it does....maybe not in the course of weeks...maybe a continual beating that started that day and ended when Robert died.  and the fact that the woman undeserving of the title 'mother' stood by and joined in, allowed it, or did nothing to stop it (the end result is always the same) let this "man" do this to her son sickens me.  i hope they both get the dp! ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on August 19, 2009, 10:16:58 PM
These 2 people are MONSTERS!!  I can't think of a punishment that is horrible enough  and still legal to do to either of these animals.  ::MonkeyMad::

I agree Sunny.....I agree.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

What the boyfreind did to Robert even once was bad enough, but it seems he did it a number of times  over time.   A slow and painful death.     And it just hurts me to know his OWN mother could have prevented it but she didn't.  She could have stopped it, but she didn't.  She could have gotten little Robert medical help but she didn't.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::   
Yes Ma'am Muffy. ITA with you. I think the mom let that baby (he was a tiny boy) die a slow and painful death by not getting him help. I hope she suffers for eternity. JMO JSM 

I agree..this is just horrible what happened to Robert...I bet his bio father would like to beat the crap out of those 2 who did this to Robert! I want to and he wasn't even my child!...poor little guy..he did not deserve any of this..none of them ever deserve it..but for some reason, these "parents" and I use the term loosely..become judge, jury and executioner for these little innocents...grrrr...these 2 should go straight to death in my opinion...no appeals, nothing...save the money that the state would use for their care by putting them to death and give the money that the state would save to missing and exploited children or some other entity for children..

I see no reason why, with vermin such as these two, they couldn't just each be given a cyanide pill and asked if they might just want to avoid a trial.  No, they are too cowardly.  That big man beating that little boy.  How brave.  I wonder what would happen if a man his size beat him upside the head.  Would he try to run? Probably.  And the so-called mother, aiding and abetting.  I would call them animals but that would be insulting to animals.  There are no words.......

I have 2 words... Pure Evil... How can a grow man beat this innocent child and this vicious illiterate monster let it happen....  ::MonkeyMad::   I cried.. I prayed Robert did not suffer.. The judges and DCF need to protect the children and stop catering to the monsters of society.  Our children need to be protected and need to come first before anyone..


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 19, 2009, 10:30:08 PM
Melissa Jenkins indictment:

http://www.ktvb.com/news/documents/Jenkins-indictment.pdf

Daniel Ehrlick indictment:

http://www.ktvb.com/news/documents/Ehrlick-indictment.pdf


There are too many monsters in this world  ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyNoNo::
OMG Klaas, I hadn't read the indictments. Thank you for posting them. The word "sadistically" through me for a loop and is doing my head in.

I hate to be gruesome, but Danny probably was pizzed, smacked Robert's head into the wall, then brutally kicked him while he was dying on the floor. OMG, I don't want to think of this anymore. Sorry to be gruesome again monkeys.

I blame the judge for making this child go to these two monsters house after the other baby was smashed in the skull. I think Idaho needs to do a little house cleaning of their CPS/DPS/DFS or WTH they call their PROTECTION services for children. JMO JSM

I will shut up now. Sorry.  ::MonkeyWaa:: Back to lurking now.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Kat_Gram on August 19, 2009, 11:15:19 PM
Did no one know who came around the house what was going on ?
If anyone had reported this or took the boy away so he could tell his real dad, this might not have happened. She didn't have custody of him, he was just visiting. I am thinking of Grandpa.
These two poor excuses for humans will blame each other for the beatings.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cartfly on August 19, 2009, 11:54:45 PM
(http://i32.tinypic.com/2rw4xz6.jpg)

Lighting a candle for Robert and saying a prayer for his family.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m

Bringing forward. 

Thanks Pink, I just love this beautiful picture of Robert. You can see he still had those innocent beautiful baby features! How could anyone have hurt this little fellow????


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Tracygirl on August 20, 2009, 01:37:16 AM
What a horrible fate this poor little boy faced. His mother should be stoned for allowing this to happen to her son and the boyfriend should be left alone for a day or 2 with to very large inmates. I simple shot in the arm is not fair for these two.

Prayers are being sent up to heaven little boy. I pray you are happily playing in the protection of angels.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 20, 2009, 04:20:34 AM
First-degree murder: Robert Manwill's mom and her boyfriend are indicted in the 8-year-old's death

BY KATY MOELLER AND KATHLEEN KRELLER
Copyright: © 2009 Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/19/09

He had dreams of being a wildland firefighter but faced drug and legal problems and managed to battle the flames only as part of a prison work crew.

She was something of a rambler, drifting through relationships - having three children with three men in less than seven years - on the hunt for the unconditional love she felt as a little girl.

Daniel Ehrlick Jr. and Melissa Jenkins met at a poker game and quickly grew close, spending weeks together in her hospital room as she dealt with complications of her third pregnancy.

They rallied together to get that infant back from state protection after Jenkins was convicted of injuring him.

Now, they're together again - in the Ada County Jail, both facing murder charges after the disappearance and death of 8-year-old Robert Manwill, whose smile captured the community in a 10-day search that started with hope and ended in tragedy.

EHRLICK JR.'S STORY

For Ehrlick Jr. - Danny to his friends and family - trouble with the law started early.

His first run-in involved a stolen United Parcel Service box full of sunglasses, said his father, Daniel Ehrlick Sr. The boy was in junior high.

"That cost his mother and I quite a bit," Ehrlick Sr. said. "He was always picking up the wrong people to run around with."

Born in Mineral County, Nev., along with his older sister and two younger brothers, Ehrlick Jr. later moved with his family to Idaho, where he attended Nampa High School and played basketball. He didn't graduate, but he got his GED in prison, his father said.

"Danny was a troubled boy all his life," Ehrlick Sr. said. "He would get in trouble doing stupid things. ... Then he has had a lot of problems with drugs."

Now 36, he has spent nearly seven years, off and on, in Idaho correctional facilities and at least 10 years on probation in Idaho and Washington. He has been convicted of burglary, battery, possession of drug paraphernalia and more.

His father and niece said Ehrlick Jr. had worked fighting fires, but he has no work history with the state or the U.S. Bureau of Land Management.

Ehrlick Jr. did work on an inmate fire crew while incarcerated, said Idaho Department of Correction spokesman Jeff Ray.

"It's pretty good duty," Ray said. "You are outdoors and working hard, and you are making more money than you would in a typical institutional job."

Few people could be found to talk about Ehrlick Jr. He has never been married and has no records of having children with other women.

JENKINS' STORY

Melissa Jenkins spent years searching for the love and stability that had eluded her since she was "daddy's girl," the middle of three girls in her family, her family members say.

"I think, all in all, Melissa was after a quiet and tender life," said Meridian resident Margo Maxwell, Jenkins' great-aunt and one of the first family members to come to her aid when Robert was reported missing July 24.

Jenkins' Facebook page says she's a 1997 graduate of Meridian High School, but the district has no record of that. Boise School District records show she entered sixth grade at Koelsch Elementary and finished seventh grade at Fairmont Junior High. The district has no further record of her.

She has worked short stints in numerous clerical and manufacturing jobs - including at the Idaho Statesman's call center, the Boise Bingo Center, Scentsy and, most recently, Blackhawk Manufacturing.

Jenkins drifted in and out of contact with most of her family, including her parents, Dori and Jeff Jenkins, who now live in New Mexico. Of the three sisters, Jenkins was older than Daphney and a year younger than Trish Burrill, a Boise resident who has acted as the family's spokeswoman at police news conferences about Robert's disappearances.

Tammy Smith, best friends with Trish for a time in high school, recalled that at some point when they were teens, Trish either moved out or was kicked out. Jenkins wasn't far behind.

The sisters, who seemed to stand by each other during the news conferences, have not always gotten along.

Family members say that before the boy disappeared, Burrill had not seen Jenkins and Robert in about 18 months. A court affidavit filed by Robert's father indicates that Burrill would not take the boy in while Jenkins was hospitalized for a few weeks in 2008. (Burrill and her husband, Kyle, did not agree to interviews.)

When Jenkins met Robert's father, Charles Manwill, he was dating Trish. He and Jenkins' second cousin, Justin Smith, were buddies and roommates. Manwill was nine years older than Jenkins.

In 2000, when Jenkins was in her early 20s, she got pregnant with Manwill's child, and Robert was born in June 2001. Jenkins and Manwill were married in July, but they separated less than a year later.

Jenkins met her second husband, Frank Seiber, at a Nampa bingo parlor where they both worked. He was 27 years her senior, an age difference that bothered some of her family and friends. The pair married in 2003.

Seiber said he helped care for Robert while Jenkins was at work.

"He was like a son," Seiber said. "When I think about him, all I can see is that smile. This has been really hard."

The skeptics, though, were right about the marriage.

"She was dating other men, and I didn't know it for a while. ... I guess love has a blind eye," Seiber said, sitting on the porch of his Payette home.

They divorced in March 2006. Eight months later, Jenkins gave birth to a baby girl, RayLynn.

The father was Russell "Rusty" Ames, a truck driver and a high school friend of Jenkins' mother who began dating Jenkins after running into her at her folks' house one day.

"I've known Melissa her whole life," said Ames, now 49.

He said he's still a friend of Dori Jenkins' and said there's been a lot of family conflict over the years, particularly between the mother and her daughters.

"If one's not fighting with the other, then the other two are," he said. "You've got to be hating, or nobody's happy."

Ames said his relationship with Jenkins ran its course in a matter of months. Like Seiber, Ames felt she wasn't honest with him.

"Everything that comes out of her mouth is a lie," he said.

A VALENTINE'S DAY LIFE-CHANGER

Sometime around when Ehrlick Jr. and Jenkins met in 2007, she discovered she was pregnant.

She was trying to end a relationship that she told Manwill and others was abusive, friends and court documents said. In January 2008, complications with her pregnancy left her hospitalized for weeks.

Ehrlick Jr. was with her every day, Ehrlick Sr. said. He "practically lived in that hospital room" with her, Ames said.

The baby boy, who was named Aidan, was born on Feb. 14, 2008. He wasn't Ehrlick Jr.'s child - according to Ames and other family members and friends. (Idaho birth certificates aren't public records for 100 years, and neither Jenkins nor Ehrlick would agree to an interview for this story.)

It's unknown whether Ehrlick Jr. knew all along or found out later, but every one of his family, friends and neighbors interviewed said the same thing: He treated that baby boy as his own.

Aidan was given Ehrlick's name, and Ehrlick Jr. is acknowledged in court documents as the father.

"When he met (Jenkins), he did a 180-degree turn in his life - to the best," Ehrlick Sr. said. "After the baby was born, it got a lot better. He got more honest with me. ... He was more adult."

A NEW ROLE: DAD

Outwardly, to many neighbors, family and friends, Ehrlick and Jenkins seemed like good parents - even after Jenkins pleaded guilty to fracturing her infant's skull in October 2008.

In interviews days before the two were arrested Tuesday night, several of the couple's closest neighbors at the Oak Park Village apartments praised Ehrlick as an easy-going "Mr. Mom," the one who always carried the baby and diaper bag.

"He was very good with the baby," said Sean Buffington, who lives upstairs from the couple.

"He made sure that baby had clean clothes," Ehrlick Sr. said. "He made sure that baby had food. He made sure the baby had diapers. He would not leave that boy more than two or three minutes because he'd worry about him."

Ehrlick Jr. would get "worked up" over a runny nose and make his father wash his hands before holding Aidan.

The son still relied on his father for financial support; Ehrlick Sr. gave them a car and a deposit for the apartment they shared and often handed over cash for rent, food, diapers, cigarettes and utility bills.

Still, Ehrlick Sr. said Aidan's presence inspired changes in his son. Instead of hanging out with his old cronies, Sundays meant barbecues and family gatherings at Ehrlick Sr.'s home near Bannock and 30th streets.

For big get-togethers, the family would bring Ehrlick Sr.'s wife and the kids' mother, Barbara, home from the care facility where she has lived since suffering strokes.

Justin Smith, Jenkins' cousin who lived with her family for a while and was "basically their adopted kid," said he never met Ehrlick Jr., but that he was called on two occasions when Jenkins and Ehrlick Jr. were fighting.

"When I showed up, I didn't see any signs," said Smith, who said he went to the apartment with Trish's husband, Kyle Burrill.

When the men offered to call the police, Jenkins turned them away.

A STRICT MOTHER

Jenkins worked while Ehrlick Jr. stayed home with Aidan and Robert, when the boy visited from his father's home in New Plymouth.

Carol Carrillo, another upstairs neighbor who became close friends with Jenkins, said she trusted them both with her children. She said the couple worked hard to get Aidan back after Jenkins was convicted of injuring him.

She said Jenkins was very concerned for the safety of both of their kids. Carrillo remembers Jenkins getting on someone's case when they tried to pick up Carrillo's kids with a car that didn't have enough seatbelts for all the children.

Carrillo said Jenkins was strict with Robert. The boy wasn't allowed to go beyond the playground behind their apartment building - if he did, he got grounded. He wouldn't go into Carrillo's apartment without first asking his mother's permission.

"I never saw them be mean to the kids," said her 12-year-old daughter, Jennifer. "I went to their house all the time."

But others described Jenkins as moody and quick to anger when children misbehaved.

"Melissa was mean to kids - they wore on her patience," said Seiber, her second husband.

If Jenkins was in a bad mood, Seiber said, he would just take Robert outside and play with him "until she calmed down." But Seiber said he never saw Melissa Jenkins be violent or hit Robert.

"There was times she'd smack Robert in the back of the head to get his attention - a gentle slap in the head. Like, 'Hey, pay attention to me, do what you're told,' " Ames said.

When Robert acted out, several people said, Jenkins sometimes forced him to sit on his hands or stand with his nose against the wall with his hands behind his back in a military stance. Jenkins also was known to punish her children and others in her care with cold showers.

Robert always seemed to be on "restriction," Ehrlick Sr. said.

"He would ask her for a glass of water," said Robbyn Ehrlick, Ehrlick Jr.'s 23-year-old niece. "She would say 'Go away, you are annoying me.' "

Ehrlick Sr. said he saw Jenkins once pick up her toddler daughter by one arm and "whip" her across her bottom.

"When I said something about it, she said 'it didn't hurt her because she was wearing a Pamper,' " Ehrlick Sr. said.

Buffington said he saw a hint of Robert's fear about getting in trouble when his dog got loose one day. Sadie, a pit bull, wiggled out of her collar and ran down the stairs, where Buffington caught her.

He was surprised when he looked up at Robert, who began shaking and crying.

"He said, 'Mom's going to be so mad ... I can't lose the dog,' " Buffington said.

AFTER ROBERT'S DISAPPEARANCE

When Maxwell, Jenkins' great-aunt, brought Trish Burrill to the Oak Park apartment early on the Sunday after Robert was reported missing, the sisters cried and hugged.

"They were sweet and kind to each other, as you'd expect sisters to be in a crisis like this," Maxwell said. "As soon as Trish left, Melissa took the attitude that she didn't want to be around Trish. Melissa clung to me and my girls."

"That created a rift," Maxwell said.

Shirley Earls, Maxwell's daughter, rallied members at two local LDS churches to help with the search. She noticed that Robert's dad, Charles Manwill, was "focused" and "very military," while Ehrlick was "a mess," "a complete puddle."

"Melissa was in between," she said.

On Tuesday, when Maxwell returned to Oak Park to help, she said Jenkins appeared medicated and calm. She was ready to pursue every lead to find the boy.

"Danny was sobbing uncontrollably," Maxwell said. "He greeted me at the door and soaked my shirt with his tears.

"I said, 'Danny, are you getting any medical attention?' He said he didn't have any money."

Maxwell took him to a doctor's office, and he was prescribed medications. In the car, she said, he seemed "very, very sorrowful."

But by the next night, Maxwell said, it seemed, Ehrlick and Jenkins weren't comforting each other or even speaking.

"Danny was just walking the streets and didn't know where to go. He said he didn't know where to go or what to do," Maxwell said.

Ultimately, he went to stay with his father, Ehrlick Sr. said. Jenkins had been staying, off and on, with her sister, Trish, Kyle Burrill said.

An Oak Park Village neighbor said Jenkins' family came to retrieve her things from their apartment on Sunday, after Robert's funeral. Ehrlick Jr.'s belongings are still there.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/localnews/story/869934.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 20, 2009, 04:34:00 AM
Indictments of Melissa Jenkins and Daniel Ehrlick Jr. fill searchers with disappointment

BY SANDRA FORESTER - sforester@idahostatesman.com
Copyright: © 2009 Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/20/09

STANDING IN SUPPORT

Nikki and Steve Adams, who planned nightly vigils while the 8-year-old was missing, say they are still behind Robert's mother, Melissa Jenkins, 100 percent.

"We're there to support Melissa, and we're also going to support the family," Nikki Adams said. "We're going to let the justice system take its course. They'll have the facts and prove the proof."

Nikki Adams said it's hard for her to believe that Jenkins could be willingly involved.

"I don't see it," she said. "We're sad. We're disappointed that it comes to this."

'SICK AND SAD'

Carol Peterson lives down the street from the complex where Jenkins lives. She attended the nightly vigils.

"We're all really sick," Peterson said. "I'm a mother, a grandmother and a great-grandmother. Your child is the one you need to protect. And I think that Melissa, she should have at least sent that child back to Charles (Manwill, his father). The first time (Daniel Ehrlick Jr.) laid a hand on that child she should have sent him back."

Peterson said if Ehrlick was physically abusive toward Jenkins, she could have sought help.

"Everybody here would have helped her," Peterson said. "This is a wonderful neighborhood. I've lived here 44 years; we've never had anything like this happen in this neighborhood.

"I'm sick and sad. She should be charged with exactly what she was charged with."

A CALL TO AWARENESS

John Oliva, a Mountain Home teacher formerly of Ontario, drove to Boise to help with the search for Robert.

"I was glad that there was some conclusion, (but) highly, highly disappointed. It's so unfortunate that something like this could happen. It was kind of just overwhelming.

" ... The amount of trauma the boy endured prior to death must be horrific.

"As a teacher, it forces me to be more aware of students who are struggling and sensitive to kids having a difficult time."

ANGRY AFTER HELPING OUT

Sarah Ledford, a mom and Realtor from Caldwell, joined all three July 31 searches to help find Robert because, "we needed to find the kid so justice can be done."

"I'm furious," she said Wednesday. "We knew he was dead."

Ledford said the death penalty would be an easy way out for the people responsible.

"We could not do to them what I would like to see done to them," Ledford said. "I don't know how a mother could get up there the whole time, get 15 minutes of fame, and know where her son is the whole time" - if the charges are proven.

Ledford said she doesn't like hearing about these situations in the news, but "there's no way to not watch it and not know what was going on. I can't even imagine it. It's just not conceivable."

'I CAN'T FATHOM IT'

New Plymouth Mayor Joe Cook brought a group of residents down from Robert's hometown on July 31 to search, and he spoke at the boy's funeral.

"I'm disappointed that these folks didn't step forward," he said.

Cook said he's relieved that there likely isn't a stranger randomly snatching children, but the events that likely ended Robert's life show a dark side in a family history that wasn't well known.

"How did this boy end up back in that environment? I can't in my wildest dream think of what a little kid could do to push you to that extreme, unless you're evil. To me, I can't fathom it. This whole thing is beyond sad. ... As a parent, it just drives you crazy."

Cook and others said they respect and are grateful for the work of police on the case.

"This is a tough situation," Cook said. "There was tremendous pressure on the police department."
http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/871174.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 20, 2009, 04:51:09 AM
Answers to some of the community's questions about the Robert Manwill case

 - Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/20/09
Reported and written by Kathleen Kreller, Katy Moeller, Patrick Orr and Anna Webb.

When did Robert Manwill die?


Ada County Coroner Earl Sonnenberg said the evidence matches the July 24 day on which the boy was reported missing, but he would not give a specific date of death. The indictments say Robert was killed "on or about" that day. Sonnenberg would not say whether the child was dead before he was left in the canal where his body was found.

Where is Charles Manwill?

Manwill - known as "Chuck" - is on leave from his job with the Idaho National Guard, according to Guard spokesman Tim Marsano.

Manwill is one of about 1,000 full-time employees at the Idaho National Guard in Boise and has worked at Gowen Field since 2001. He teaches soldiers techniques on military reconnaissance.

"We're not only keeping him in our thoughts, we've been in regular contact with him," Marsano said. "We have several of his colleagues as well as chaplains, counselors and others who are offering assistance. ... We're a pretty tightly knit community out here, and he's one of us."

Many Guard members were present at Robert's funeral.

Manwill was not at his home Wednesday, according to a family member at the rural Payette County residence. He's "hurting" and needs some time alone, the family member said. Manwill's sister, Dorothy Aydelotte, said she's still processing all the information that's come out about Robert's death, and she had no comment.

Why was Robert visiting his mother when she didn't have full custody?

Robert Manwill visited his mother for seven weeks each summer, in addition to certain weekends and holidays, according to a 2008 custody agreement between his parents. Charles Manwill and Melissa Jenkins shared custody of the 8-year-old, but Manwill retained primary custody as of July 2008.

According to the custody agreement, Robert was supposed to visit his mother for four weeks, go home to his father for a week and then back to his mother for the remaining three weeks.

Ehrlick's father, Daniel Ehrlick Sr., said he believed Jenkins' visitation with Robert had been suspended when she lost custody of her infant, Aidan, in October last year when she was charged with injury to a child. He said she had since regained custody of the baby, and Robert's visitation was restored.

How are family members reacting to Ehrlick's and Jenkins' arrest and indictment?

Daniel Ehrlick Sr. said he will no longer speak to his son.

"All I care about now is Robert. Rest in peace," said Ehrlick Sr., who didn't attend Wednesday's court hearing. "They are going to pay for it every day for the rest of their lives. This boy had no chance in this world."

Melissa Jenkins' sister Trish Burrill and her husband, Kyle Burrill, declined to comment when approached after the hearing.

If what the indictment says is true, what explains the psychology of two people who grieved publicly, asked for help and attended searches and vigils while knowing the truth?

Thomas Young, a medical doctor and director of operations at The Children's Home Society of Idaho, said the couple's actions, if true, could have more to do with criminal intent than psychology.

"If I'm a criminal, I can't run away, which would make me instantly guilty, I'm going to try to blend in with the crowd," Young said. "Once they colluded, they were equally guilty under the law. They probably had to sit and discuss what they were going to do about it."

A public display of anything other than emotion and pain would have been an instant indictment, Young said.

"These people just have a perverse moral compass and were protecting themselves. They saw playing dumb as their only escape. It's almost adolescent thinking. You spill something, your mom comes in and asks who did it. You say, 'I don't know,' even if you were the only one in the house."

Who testified against Ehrlick and Jenkins in front of the grand jury?

Prosecutors called 10 witnesses against Ehrlick, including a Kuna firefighter who helped retrieve Robert's body from the New York Canal, a crime scene specialist for the Boise Police Department, Robert's father, Ada County's pathologist Glen Groben, Boise Police Department detectives and a social worker from Taft Elementary School in Boise.

Just two people were called to testify against Jenkins: a staff member of the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare and a member of the Boise Police Department.

Will Ada County prosecutors seek the death penalty for either Ehrlick or Jenkins?

They have 60 days to decide, and Ada County Prosecutor Greg Bower said much of the decision will depend on what kind of mitigating evidence defense attorneys provide to prosecutors as they swap discovery on the case.

It's the prosecutor's job to determine whether the aggravating factors exist for a jury to sentence someone to death, like if the killing was heinously cruel, the defendant has a propensity to commit murder, or the killer showed an utter disregard for human life.

It's up to defense attorneys to find the mitigating factors a jury might consider to spare a life, like if the defendant suffers from mental illness or was a victim of child abuse themselves.

Could an Ada County jury spare the life of a child killer?

It happened in 2004 when a jury spared the life of Ignacio Sanchez, despite evidence that he beat a 2-year-old girl in his care over a period of two weeks, causing her death in December 2003. Prosecutors wanted the death penalty for Sanchez, but the jury spared his life after hearing mitigating evidence that Sanchez was abused as a child, was afflicted with depression and attention deficit disorder, and had been a methamphetamine user since he was 12. He is serving a sentence of fixed life for first-degree murder.

Who is the lead prosecutor?

Ada County Deputy Prosecutor Jill Longhurst, with assistance from Deputy Prosecutor Daniel Dinger. Longhurst is an experienced prosecutor who has been the lead counsel on six first-degree murder cases since 2000, including those of Raymond Ortiz III, Anthony Shaw and Ignacio Sanchez - in each, children were beaten to death. All three of those men are serving life prison sentences.

Who is representing Ehrlick and Jenkins?

Both said in court Monday they could not afford private counsel, so they will be represented by attorneys with the Ada County public defender's office. At least one will be represented by Amil Myshin, who has been counsel or co-counsel on more than 30 first-degree murder cases over the past two decades. He is also certified to represent defendants in a death penalty case, if Ada County prosecutors decide to go that route.

Myshin, who spoke for Ehrlick Wednesday, has represented convicted killers Erick Hall, Darrell Payne and John Delling in recent years.

Tony Geddes, another Ada County public defender, represented Jenkins Wednesday, but he won't work the case as a lead counsel. The public defender's office will likely hire an outside attorney, called "conflict counsel," to represent whoever doesn't get Myshin, to avoid conflict between defendants. That is standard practice in murder cases with multiple defendants.

Is it possible for an impartial jury to be selected in Ada County for a case so well-known?

That depends on whom you talk to.

Boise defense attorney D.C. Carr thinks it would be difficult, considering the publicity and the raw emotion much of the community seems to be feeling over the case.

"With this situation, with the small child as such a sympathetic victim, I think they are going to have a really hard time finding a fair and impartial jury," said Carr, who used to work for the Ada County public defender's office. "There have been stories every day, and that has led to a lot of fingerpointing at (Jenkins and Ehrlick on blogs and Web sites) even before they were arrested. There is so much emotion surrounding this case."

But Boise defense attorney David Leroy, a former Idaho attorney general, said he believes it is possible to pick a local jury, especially since huge groups of potential jurors can be sorted out for prejudice against either side by asking them to fill out questionnaires prior to actual jury selection.

He said he has faith that many people in Ada County who know about the case are capable of forming opinions based strictly on evidence.

How can the community channel the energy this case has created to better the lives of Idaho children?

Nicole Sirak, director of the Court Appointed Special Advocate program, said representatives from several local child welfare organizations - including Health and Welfare, St. Luke's Prenatal Care, and Idaho Voices for Children - met Tuesday to talk about new ways they might come together to create a community "web" around Idaho children.

The Manwill case, and the unanswered questions about how Robert, a child who did have caring adults in his life but still obviously need attention from the safety net, was the inspiration for the meeting.

The timing, on the day Robert's mother and her boyfriend were arrested for his murder, was coincidental.

Talks are just starting, but it's clear to Sirak that it's time to tap into community sentiment now. Since the Manwill events, she's been fielding calls from people who want to help local children but don't know how. Some have already made memorial donations to CASA in Robert's name.

"We're good at collaboration here in Idaho. Remember, the Idaho Human Rights Memorial (now an educational park) was supposed to be a simple plaque on the Greenbelt."
http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/871178.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 20, 2009, 05:04:12 AM
Daniel Ehrlick Jr. accused of repeated acts of blunt-force trauma, Melissa Jenkins accused of hiding her son Robert Manwill from authorities
BY PATRICK ORR KATHLEEN KRELLER - porr@idahostatesman.com kkreller@idahostatesman.com
Copyright: © 2009 Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/20/09

Eight-year-old Robert Manwill was beaten over weeks of "escalating physical violence" that finally climaxed in his death, according to details released Wednesday in the indictments of his mom and her boyfriend.

Ada County Coroner Erwin Sonnenberg said the boy died from blunt force trauma "on or about" the July 24 night he was reported missing.

State officials won't say how Robert and his 16-month-old half brother Aidan were allowed back in the home with their mother, Melissa Jenkins, who just months earlier had pleaded guilty to fracturing Aidan's skull.

Health and Welfare officials won't release details on any child protection cases in the home. Custody documents for Robert show that Melissa Jenkins had the right to see her son seven weeks each summer.

Two short but shocking indictments filed against Jenkins and her boyfriend, Daniel Ehrlick Jr., offer the most detailed glimpse of what police and prosecutors say happened. A grand jury contends that violence against the boy started as early as June.

It's unclear whether Robert was staying the whole time in the Oak Park Village apartment his mother and her boyfriend shared; neither police nor family members are saying.

But the indictments indicate that state officials may have been monitoring the family. According to the grand jury, Jenkins "did actively and repeatedly hide (Robert) from government authorities" and kept "other persons from observing the ongoing harm."


The indictments - charging both Jenkins and Ehrlick with first-degree murder and failure to report a death - were graphic.

The grand jury said Ehrlick repeatedly abused Robert and eventually killed the boy by the "intentional application of torture ... by inflicting extreme or prolonged pain with the intent to cause suffering, to execute vengeance, or to satisfy some sadistic inclination, by inflicting repeated acts of blunt force trauma to the abdomen and/or head of Robert Manwill."

Many of the terms used in the indictment were taken directly from Idaho's law on first-degree murder. Officials haven't released any specific details of how the abuse played out.

The indictment against Robert's mother, though, said she "had active knowledge of Robert's bodily injuries, visible bruises and other physical and emotional harm." The indictment says she not only failed to protect or seek medical attention for Robert, but she kept his abuse from others.

It says she continued to leave Robert with Ehrlick despite the knowledge that he was "inflicting repeated acts of physical violence" on the boy; and that she lied to police about Robert's whereabouts after she knew he was dead.


Now, the community is clamoring for answers about how this could have happened.

Health and Welfare Director Richard Armstrong said Wednesday that the law prohibits his department from releasing information on Robert's case - even now that the boy is dead.

The department has performed an internal review and is satisfied,
Armstrong said. Any further information will come from the Ada County Prosecutors' Office during court proceedings, he said.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/871177.html


 ::MonkeyMad::Satisfied? Are you kidding me? Again, no words.
God bless you little man.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 20, 2009, 08:19:03 AM
Melissa Jenkins indictment:

http://www.ktvb.com/news/documents/Jenkins-indictment.pdf

Daniel Ehrlick indictment:

http://www.ktvb.com/news/documents/Ehrlick-indictment.pdf


There are too many monsters in this world  ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Ah... yes indeed..... I said not long ago in a different thread that Monsters ARE real ... they live among us.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: melisb on August 20, 2009, 09:05:31 AM
Amen Nut.  When I think of what this child is feeling, saying, screaming in pain, begging for his life, for his egg donor to help, asking why...oh Dear God make all these horrors in my head go away.  How could she allow this?  I want a locked room and a good half hour to show her exactly what that Angel suffered.  I'll take more than a half hour if I can just to 'prolong' it.  Forgive me, please, I don't always see the "he is in a better place now" side of it. Yes, I know he's in Heaven now but my head and heart drags me through what these poor children are thinking at the moment.  That is hard to swallow.  If any of you reading this have her children please love them extra special, they need it and probably professional help too.  I only hope she's in gen. pop. before her trial so we don't have to waste the money having one!  I know, I know, back in my corner.  I'm going.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 20, 2009, 09:27:46 AM
Quote
Hear the detailed indictment Because Melissa is illiterate,

Quote
Jenkins' Facebook page says

do what?  she's illiterate but has a Facebook page? 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cartfly on August 20, 2009, 09:55:56 AM
Quote
Hear the detailed indictment Because Melissa is illiterate,

Quote
Jenkins' Facebook page says

do what?  she's illiterate but has a Facebook page? 


She is a selfish manipulator. That is what evil is, pure manipulation. I have no remorse for this woman period. "Illiterate" my arse....I imagine the judge who allowed her to have the baby back will be lining up to hear her case. I think that judge should be exposed for being such a dumb arse. ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::
Sorry for the rant, I just, like many of us here, are angry that everyone failed these children. The worse part of it, I feel so helpless. What can we do to stop this?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cherjers on August 20, 2009, 11:54:47 AM
These 2 people are MONSTERS!!  I can't think of a punishment that is horrible enough  and still legal to do to either of these animals.  ::MonkeyMad::

I agree Sunny.....I agree.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
good morning monkeys -it seems  to me some family members should have notice how Robert was being treated.  That poor boy -did he not feel he could go to his bio father or aunt someone and tell them.  I know if it were one of my grand children-they would tell me.  They would say so and so always hits me.  My mom makes me take cold showers when I am bad.  Sorry if I am hard on the extened family-but someone should have know what was going on. 
What the boyfreind did to Robert even once was bad enough, but it seems he did it a number of times  over time.   A slow and painful death.     And it just hurts me to know his OWN mother could have prevented it but she didn't.  She could have stopped it, but she didn't.  She could have gotten little Robert medical help but she didn't.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::   
Yes Ma'am Muffy. ITA with you. I think the mom let that baby (he was a tiny boy) die a slow and painful death by not getting him help. I hope she suffers for eternity. JMO JSM 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 20, 2009, 11:55:56 AM
Quote
Hear the detailed indictment Because Melissa is illiterate,

Quote
Jenkins' Facebook page says

do what?  she's illiterate but has a Facebook page? 


She is a selfish manipulator. That is what evil is, pure manipulation. I have no remorse for this woman period. "Illiterate" my arse....I imagine the judge who allowed her to have the baby back will be lining up to hear her case. I think that judge should be exposed for being such a dumb arse. ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::
Sorry for the rant, I just, like many of us here, are angry that everyone failed these children. The worse part of it, I feel so helpless. What can we do to stop this?

I don't know, really don't, I've been thinking about all of these senseless, horrific crimes. Is there anything that the people in Idaho might be able to do, to perhaps recall the judge that gave Melissa a slap on the wrist in the first place. I'm sure nothing will happen to the judge, I can only hope the judge's conscience doesn't stop haunting. Did nobody see this little child's bruises in the neighborhood? Robert was out playing on the swings that evening, he was probably afraid to say anything. Another haunting case, but this one could have been avoided  ::MonkeyMad::  Thanks to all that have posted articles  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cherjers on August 20, 2009, 11:56:36 AM
These 2 people are MONSTERS!!  I can't think of a punishment that is horrible enough  and still legal to do to either of these animals.  ::MonkeyMad::

I agree Sunny.....I agree.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
good morning monkeys -it seems  to me some family members should have notice how Robert was being treated.  That poor boy -did he not feel he could go to his bio father or aunt someone and tell them.  I know if it were one of my grand children-they would tell me.  They would say so and so always hits me.  My mom makes me take cold showers when I am bad.  Sorry if I am hard on the extened family-but someone should have know what was going on.  (  sorry I posted in the wrong place)

What the boyfreind did to Robert even once was bad enough, but it seems he did it a number of times  over time.   A slow and painful death.     And it just hurts me to know his OWN mother could have prevented it but she didn't.  She could have stopped it, but she didn't.  She could have gotten little Robert medical help but she didn't.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::   
Yes Ma'am Muffy. ITA with you. I think the mom let that baby (he was a tiny boy) die a slow and painful death by not getting him help. I hope she suffers for eternity. JMO JSM 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cherjers on August 20, 2009, 12:02:10 PM
Wow - I just saw this.  I am so heart broken right now   ::MonkeyWaa:: 

This poor little guy must have suffered so badly.  I hope these SOB's rot in he!!   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 
  Next to these nuts KC looking a lttle sane--just a little--- still want he to pay with her life.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cherjers on August 20, 2009, 12:19:28 PM
Unbelievably heartbreaking. My God what this little child must have endured. what pure inexplicable evil. I don't know what else I can say. :-(
  I wonder how the judges feel-the one that gave her joint custody  and the one that gave her a slap on the wrist for fracturing the skull of a baby.  In my mind they should step down from the bench.  I know judges can not always be right-but in this case they showed no common sense.  More importantly they never gave a thought as to  what  these children life would be.  They should be hung out there for every one to see -their pictures should be on every new station-this way the next time a judge will think twice about putting children in  a home with filth like these to ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: seahorse on August 20, 2009, 12:37:27 PM
Search continues for missing Idaho boy
by The Associated Press
Monday July 27, 2009, 9:12 AM
National Cener for Missing & Exploited ChildrenRobert Manwill

BOISE -- An 8-year-old boy from Boise has been missing since Friday, and the FBI has joined in the search.

Boise police say Robert Manwill went missing about 9:30 p.m. Friday in southwestern Boise and that he may have been headed to a party at a friend's house when he disappeared.

About 20 FBI agents and dozens of local residents were assisting in the search over the weekend.

The Boise Police Department says it will hold a press conference about the search Monday.

On Sunday, Deputy Chief Jim Kerns pleaded with the public for help finding Robert, who is described as 4 feet, 2 inches tall, about 50 pounds, and wearing blue jeans, black shoes, and either a brown shirt with the words, "Andy don't need no Mic" or a blue shirt with a superman symbol on the front.

-- The Associated Press

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/07/search_continues_for_missing_i.html

No AMBER ALERT?  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Ehrlick Jr. accused of repeated acts of blunt-force trauma, Jenkins accused of hiding her son Robert Manwill
http://www.idahostatesman.com/localnews/story/871177.html

Excellent comment on the comments section on the above link. Not my comment but I feel exactly as the Idahostatesman poster.
CandyKayne wrote on August, 20 3:31 AM:

They need to also charge these killers with Fraud. They defrauded the community (Red Cross, Police officers, the National Guard...to name a few) of valuable time, money and resources.  Nor can they can ever re-pay the countless concerned and caring people in our community who took off work to help search for Robert...people who actually DID shed tears over this child...people who spent countless hours in the hot July and August heat to help in any way they could. And while all of these agencies and people worked on their behalf, they stood there and played us all...or tried to play us. We knew the truth but you still allowed the expensive and heartless charade to continue while your beautiful son's lifeless little body drifted and decomposed. While sadly you're not the first to kill a child, maybe you should be an example to other child abusers and killers and let the community exact it's own revenge. It would be swift and sure. No sitting on death row till you're old enough to die of n



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 20, 2009, 04:24:56 PM
Quote
Hear the detailed indictment Because Melissa is illiterate,

Quote
Jenkins' Facebook page says

do what?  she's illiterate but has a Facebook page? 


She is a selfish manipulator. That is what evil is, pure manipulation. I have no remorse for this woman period. "Illiterate" my arse....I imagine the judge who allowed her to have the baby back will be lining up to hear her case. I think that judge should be exposed for being such a dumb arse. ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::
Sorry for the rant, I just, like many of us here, are angry that everyone failed these children. The worse part of it, I feel so helpless. What can we do to stop this?

I don't know, really don't, I've been thinking about all of these senseless, horrific crimes. Is there anything that the people in Idaho might be able to do, to perhaps recall the judge that gave Melissa a slap on the wrist in the first place. I'm sure nothing will happen to the judge, I can only hope the judge's conscience doesn't stop haunting. Did nobody see this little child's bruises in the neighborhood? Robert was out playing on the swings that evening, he was probably afraid to say anything. Another haunting case, but this one could have been avoided  ::MonkeyMad::  Thanks to all that have posted articles  ::MonkeyCool::

The judges names are public record. They should swarm them with letters and printed out pictures of little dude.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 20, 2009, 06:56:14 PM
http://videos.idahostatesman.com/vmix_hosted_apps/p/media?id=5705850&item_index=1&all=1&sort=NULL

If you look below there is video with a resident "Carol Peterson"
She said she heard Robert had ligature marks on his ankles and rocks in his pockets.

They tied something to little man to weigh him down. ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 20, 2009, 08:22:39 PM
http://videos.idahostatesman.com/vmix_hosted_apps/p/media?id=5705850&item_index=1&all=1&sort=NULL

If you look below there is video with a resident "Carol Peterson"
She said she heard Robert had ligature marks on his ankles   and rocks in his pockets.

They tied something to little man to weigh him down. ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

 ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

  Thanks Pink for the link to the video  ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyMad:: I hope the ligature marks around his ankles were post mortem. I would hate to think that he was bound before he died. Makes me sad too that he liked to hug, probably because he never got them at home from his mom.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

God Rest you Little Man.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Deenie on August 20, 2009, 10:14:42 PM
Evening Monkeys

This was Handwriting on the wall ...it seems. Poor Robert. This child was thrown to the lions den by being sent to his Monster/Mother's house for the summer. 
I have to go back and read yet. But what was said on the news yesterday that the Judge had to read the indictment due to Ms. Jenkins is Illiterate ...seemed strange to me.

I found yesterday within the local news this article of her life  p~poor saga ...  ::MonkeyMad::
that she " WORKED" ...
snipped: http://www.idahostatesman.com/273/story/869934.html

She has worked short stints in numerous clerical and manufacturing jobs - including at the Idaho Statesman's call center, the Boise Bingo Center, Scentsy and, most recently, Blackhawk Manufacturing.

How can you be employed in Clerical if you cannot read nor write ?? I know that clerical is a broad spectrum of employment - but bottom line is you have to be able to read and write !
Who filled out her applications? Her boyfriend at the moment ?

I posted this when they first found the body of Robert " he was not yet identified" .. SHE needs to have her Baby Maker shut down.  This is absolute travesty that Robert had to die at her hands while her beloved pos boyfriend joined in and or did whatever. Both of them need to have Child Abuser Tat'd on their foreheads and thrown in a Gen Population Prison for the rest of their lives.
I think Death is too good for them.   

Justice will Serve You Robert  ::MonkeyAngel:: - WE Hope & Pray this Time.
God Bless the Babies


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: luvmyboys on August 21, 2009, 01:18:15 AM
I agree I think that the both of them should. Be let out. And everyone who looked for robert get to do what ever they or him. Did to little robert they both should get beat. Untill they bleed on the inside.  And just straight beat the he** up. Untill they die. Sorry if someone thinks I am crazy. Because I am not. The mom/egg donor and boyfriend r. I also think someone had to know. I do not buy it for one minute that noone did not know how that little boy was being treated. That is bs. Someone knew. I am so pissed off about this. And if I would have lived there around that area. I tell ya this much. I sure would have confronted the mom/egg donor. Because I always felt something was not right with her. I have been on top of this case from the beginning. The day it came out how and what happened to robert. I lost my breath I got so upset and threw up. My mom thought she was gonna have 2 call 911. I took it pretty bad. I just could not believe what I was hearing. But you know what? I am always saying. I can not believe what I am hearing.  after every child case. All the horrible stuff that happens to the kids. I just don't understand. And 1 more thing. I also put blame on the system. Because the system sucks. And the judge who allowed her visitation what a load of BS. Goodnite everyone I had to vent


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 21, 2009, 12:58:25 PM
luvmyboys 
I do not think you are crazy, I wish that could happen also, but it won't, and the only thing we can do is hope and pray the judicial system works, and I'm sorry, I don't have much faith in the system.  ::MonkeyAngel::  But I do believe these two will get what is coming to them.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Mary on August 21, 2009, 02:26:35 PM
What has happened to Robert is just to tragic. Child welfare should be held accountable
for ever allowing children back in her home. I don't know how this father is ever going
to recover mentally from Roberts death. What are the odds that you would marry two
women that murdered your 2 sons. The first wife stabbed her son to death and now this
one. God bless him and I hope he gets a lot of help.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: dadsgrl1255 on August 21, 2009, 04:43:58 PM
Evening Monkeys

This was Handwriting on the wall ...it seems. Poor Robert. This child was thrown to the lions den by being sent to his Monster/Mother's house for the summer. 
I have to go back and read yet. But what was said on the news yesterday that the Judge had to read the indictment due to Ms. Jenkins is Illiterate ...seemed strange to me.

I found yesterday within the local news this article of her life  p~poor saga ...  ::MonkeyMad::
that she " WORKED" ...
snipped: http://www.idahostatesman.com/273/story/869934.html

She has worked short stints in numerous clerical and manufacturing jobs - including at the Idaho Statesman's call center, the Boise Bingo Center, Scentsy and, most recently, Blackhawk Manufacturing.

How can you be employed in Clerical if you cannot read nor write ?? I know that clerical is a broad spectrum of employment - but bottom line is you have to be able to read and write !
Who filled out her applications? Her boyfriend at the moment ?

I posted this when they first found the body of Robert " he was not yet identified" .. SHE needs to have her Baby Maker shut down.  This is absolute travesty that Robert had to die at her hands while her beloved pos boyfriend joined in and or did whatever. Both of them need to have Child Abuser Tat'd on their foreheads and thrown in a Gen Population Prison for the rest of their lives.
I think Death is too good for them.   

Justice will Serve You Robert  ::MonkeyAngel:: - WE Hope & Pray this Time.
God Bless the Babies







I can't understand how she is pretending to be illiterate if she ws a secretary or whatever!  She worked for the newspaper?  Must not be a very good newspaper! ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: dadsgrl1255 on August 21, 2009, 04:49:18 PM
Quote
Hear the detailed indictment Because Melissa is illiterate,

Quote
Jenkins' Facebook page says

do what?  she's illiterate but has a Facebook page? 

Truth be told you don't really have to be that literate now.  Look at how kids talk let alone write!  My children are not allowed to speek in letters!  TTFN lol BFF you get the idea.  I think she's probably looking for all the sympathy she can get! ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: burkieandemme on August 22, 2009, 01:41:30 PM
The "poor me.  I am illiterate" story does not fly with me.  Morals and literacy are not one in the same!!!!  There are many people in this world who have learning disabilities and do not harm their children.   On the flip side, there are may people who have doctrines and are monsters.   My point is your literacy level does not determine your moral compass.   

With that said, I think someone has to use little words so this monster and her "man" can understand every charge that is brought against them.  This way, once convicted, they do not have an opprotunity for appeal.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on August 22, 2009, 04:42:25 PM
http://www.idahostatesman.com/opinion/story/873617.html

West Views: Opinions from around the West on western issues

The Times-News, Twin Falls

Daniel Ehrlick Jr. of Boise and his live-in girlfriend, Melissa Jenkins, haven't been convicted of causing the death of Jenkins' son, Robert Manwill. But an Ada County grand jury handed up indictments against Ehrlick and Jenkins on Tuesday for first-degree murder, so it's not too soon to ask how the two misfits at the center of this case fell through the cracks in Idaho's criminal justice system and its social welfare safety net.

Ehrlick was a violent, red-flagged loser with seven years in Idaho prisons and at least a decade on probation. Convicted of burglary, battery, possession of drug paraphernalia and more, he was banned by the courts from being alone with Robert's half sister, RayLynn. Jenkins, who has at least three kids by three fathers, is on probation for fracturing the skull of her youngest child, Aidan. The 1-year-old boy was declared to be in imminent danger and placed in the custody of the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare last October.

So why was Jenkins permitted unsupervised contact with Robert, whose father and stepmother in New Plymouth had custody of the boy? And if the courts deemed Ehrlick too great a danger to RayLynn, why wasn't he considered an equal risk to Robert?

Idaho family law, like that in many states, is predicated on keeping families together, when possible. What isn't clear is why Ehrlick's and Jenkins' probation officers didn't try to keep Robert from having anything to do with his mother and her boyfriend. Reading the court files, there's little doubt that the judges who sentenced Ehrlick and Jenkins considered them to be a menace to children. Jenkins had extensive involvement with Health and Welfare caseworkers. Were they simply too overworked to connect the dots and see potential risks to Robert and to Jenkins' other children, or was there something that prevented them from acting on their concerns?

However the system failed Robert, it failed him completely.
That must be changed - by the Legislature, if necessary.

This little boy should still be alive.






Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on August 22, 2009, 04:45:05 PM
(http://i32.tinypic.com/2rw4xz6.jpg)

Lighting a candle for Robert and saying a prayer for his family.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m

bring forward from pink angel


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Ariana on August 22, 2009, 08:13:54 PM
I was listening to a CD earlier and this songmade me think of Robert and all the little children are missing.

Cranberries : The Icicle Melts Lyrics
Songwriters: O'Riordan, Dolores;

When, when will the icicle melt,
The icicle, icicle?
And when, when will the picture show end,
The picture show, picture show?

I should not have read the paper today,
'Cause a child, child, child, child he was taken away.

There's a place for the baby that died,
And there's time for the mother who cried.
And she will hold him in her arms sometime,
'Cause nine months is too long, too long, too long...

How, how could you hurt the child,
How could you hurt the child?
Now, does this make you satisfied,
Satisfied, satisfied?

I don't know what's happ'ning to people today,
When a child, child, child, child, he was taken away.



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 22, 2009, 08:45:16 PM
 ::MonkeyAngel:: I don't have much to add today about Robert, but prayers for his Dad, step mom and the family and mostly for Robert. He will always be in my prayers. God Bless you Little Man. JSM  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 22, 2009, 11:06:52 PM
Daniel Ehrlick Jr. accused of repeated acts of blunt-force trauma, Melissa Jenkins accused of hiding her son Robert Manwill from authorities
BY PATRICK ORR KATHLEEN KRELLER - porr@idahostatesman.com kkreller@idahostatesman.com
Copyright: © 2009 Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/20/09

Eight-year-old Robert Manwill was beaten over weeks of "escalating physical violence" that finally climaxed in his death, according to details released Wednesday in the indictments of his mom and her boyfriend.

Ada County Coroner Erwin Sonnenberg said the boy died from blunt force trauma "on or about" the July 24 night he was reported missing.

State officials won't say how Robert and his 16-month-old half brother Aidan were allowed back in the home with their mother, Melissa Jenkins, who just months earlier had pleaded guilty to fracturing Aidan's skull.

Health and Welfare officials won't release details on any child protection cases in the home. Custody documents for Robert show that Melissa Jenkins had the right to see her son seven weeks each summer.

Two short but shocking indictments filed against Jenkins and her boyfriend, Daniel Ehrlick Jr., offer the most detailed glimpse of what police and prosecutors say happened. A grand jury contends that violence against the boy started as early as June.

It's unclear whether Robert was staying the whole time in the Oak Park Village apartment his mother and her boyfriend shared; neither police nor family members are saying.

But the indictments indicate that state officials may have been monitoring the family. According to the grand jury, Jenkins "did actively and repeatedly hide (Robert) from government authorities" and kept "other persons from observing the ongoing harm."


The indictments - charging both Jenkins and Ehrlick with first-degree murder and failure to report a death - were graphic.

The grand jury said Ehrlick repeatedly abused Robert and eventually killed the boy by the "intentional application of torture ... by inflicting extreme or prolonged pain with the intent to cause suffering, to execute vengeance, or to satisfy some sadistic inclination, by inflicting repeated acts of blunt force trauma to the abdomen and/or head of Robert Manwill."

Many of the terms used in the indictment were taken directly from Idaho's law on first-degree murder. Officials haven't released any specific details of how the abuse played out.

The indictment against Robert's mother, though, said she "had active knowledge of Robert's bodily injuries, visible bruises and other physical and emotional harm." The indictment says she not only failed to protect or seek medical attention for Robert, but she kept his abuse from others.

It says she continued to leave Robert with Ehrlick despite the knowledge that he was "inflicting repeated acts of physical violence" on the boy; and that she lied to police about Robert's whereabouts after she knew he was dead.


Now, the community is clamoring for answers about how this could have happened.

Health and Welfare Director Richard Armstrong said Wednesday that the law prohibits his department from releasing information on Robert's case - even now that the boy is dead.

The department has performed an internal review and is satisfied,
Armstrong said. Any further information will come from the Ada County Prosecutors' Office during court proceedings, he said.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/871177.html


 ::MonkeyMad::Satisfied? Are you kidding me? Again, no words.
God bless you little man.

IOW The state watched, while Melissa watched, while Daniel beat Robert to death?  WTH, is child killing a spectator sport?

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cookie on August 23, 2009, 10:01:48 AM
boggles the mind doesn't it Bearly? how anyone,let alone a mother sit and watch while a child is being tortured and beat to death? God knows that he must have cried out to his mother to help him...and she did nothing.....nothing...
hard to even think about....breaks my heart..


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 23, 2009, 10:15:05 AM
boggles the mind doesn't it Bearly? how anyone,let alone a mother sit and watch while a child is being tortured and beat to death? God knows that he must have cried out to his mother to help him...and she did nothing.....nothing...
hard to even think about....breaks my heart..
  ::MonkeyNoNo::  The viciousness that people do to humans and animals just makes me physically ill.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cherjers on August 23, 2009, 12:38:35 PM
Melissa Jenkins indictment:

http://www.ktvb.com/news/documents/Jenkins-indictment.pdf

Daniel Ehrlick indictment:

http://www.ktvb.com/news/documents/Ehrlick-indictment.pdf


There are too many monsters in this world  ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Ah... yes indeed..... I said not long ago in a different thread that Monsters ARE real ... they live among us.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
If only the MONSTERS would kill each other and leave the children alone


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cherjers on August 23, 2009, 12:44:28 PM
boggles the mind doesn't it Bearly? how anyone,let alone a mother sit and watch while a child is being tortured and beat to death? God knows that he must have cried out to his mother to help him...and she did nothing.....nothing...
hard to even think about....breaks my heart..
  ::MonkeyNoNo::  The viciousness that people do to humans and animals just makes me physically ill.
I still dont understand why this child could not tell anyone what was going on.  I dont care what anyone says-family members must have know something- The sister thats aways talking-is this the mother sister-if so she had to know her sister was nuts- ::MonkeyMad:: If i had a sister likethat I would question my  nephew-ask him questions -take an interest in his life--so sad for this child-makes me sick


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Ariana on August 23, 2009, 01:22:44 PM
If she was a battered woman she more than likely didn't protect her son because she was afraid of getting beat or having her son hurt even worse than she thought he would be.  I have no doubt she loved him, I believe her grief is real.  She wanted to see her son so much I am sure and she was probably afraid to send him home early from his visitation with her because she knew once the father found out his son was abused she would never see him again, Dad would have made sure of that.  Battered women are stripped of everything.  Their pride, their self esteem, their self worth.  All she has left in this world is her children and now she has lost them forever.  This is a sad story of the cycle of abuse and how a mom is brought so low that she becomes selfish in what little she does have that she will not put the protection of her children first.  Not all battered women let it go that far but too many do.  They don't love who their man is, they love who he pretended to be when they met him, they hope and pray that he will go back to being that way, they fear for their lives, they fear for their kids, and they are brainwashed to believe they cannot survive without this man.  It is complete and total codependance at it's worst.  In some cases they only stay because the man has them convinced he will kill them or their children if they leave.  A lot of times the woman did leave to only be tracked down by him and and almost killed for doing so.  Plus they play up the whole "it's my child and I have a right to see him" if there are kids involved.  I am not making excuses for her, she deserves the punishment that she has coming to her, my guess is that even she agrees, even as she hopes for a different outcome.  There is more to this story than his mom is incompetant, but the worst thing is that this little boy had to pay the price for his mothers inability to see that her relationship was not worth it and that she should run, even if it meant never seeing Robert or his sister again, just so she could protect herself and the kids from him.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 23, 2009, 01:28:39 PM
boggles the mind doesn't it Bearly? how anyone,let alone a mother sit and watch while a child is being tortured and beat to death? God knows that he must have cried out to his mother to help him...and she did nothing.....nothing...
hard to even think about....breaks my heart..
  ::MonkeyNoNo::  The viciousness that people do to humans and animals just makes me physically ill.
I still dont understand why this child could not tell anyone what was going on.  I dont care what anyone says-family members must have know something- The sister thats aways talking-is this the mother sister-if so she had to know her sister was nuts- ::MonkeyMad:: If i had a sister likethat I would question my  nephew-ask him questions -take an interest in his life--so sad for this child-makes me sick
I would also, it seems she is just covering for her sister. I will never understand this mind set. I understand family and protecting family, but no way should one protect if you even have a tiny amount of feelings that something was terribly wrong with a child. The only thing perhaps is maybe Robert was told that if he tells anyone he will be killed? I just don't know.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on August 23, 2009, 01:37:32 PM
http://www.idahostatesman.com/opinion/story/874378.html

Sen. Mike Crapo: We all have a duty to help prevent family violence
BY SEN. MIKE CRAPO - Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/23/09

Several weeks ago, I wrote to my constituents about the rise in the incidence of family violence during times of economic recession. A few days later, 8-year-old Robert Manwill went missing in Boise.

Since then, Idaho has learned more about this heartbreaking story, and now his mother and her boyfriend have been charged with Robert's death. This case is an example of how awful family violence can be and should give us motivation to do everything we can to prevent family violence in all of its forms.

(snipped)


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on August 23, 2009, 01:41:37 PM
http://www.idahopress.com/sports/?2009-08-23-Critics-must-consider-big-picture

Critics must consider big picture

Updated 11 hours 49 minutes ago

The allegations against 8-year-old Robert Manwill's mother and her boyfriend are horrifying and sickening.

An Ada County grand jury indictment accuses the boy's mother, Melissa Jenkins, 30, of aiding and abetting her boyfriend, Daniel Ehrlick, in Robert's death and hiding the boy's injuries from government officials who could have intervened.

The graphic implications of torture and repeated beatings of the boy by Ehrlick have rightfully sparked outrage among Idahoans. Many question the treatment of an earlier charge against Jenkins, on probation for fracturing the skull of Robert's infant half-brother. The child was removed from her custody by the state in late 2008.

(snipped)


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on August 23, 2009, 01:48:21 PM
http://www.idahostatesman.com/localnews/story/874406.html

    * News > Local News

2,300 people helped search for Robert Manwill. Local groups want to channel that energy to make kids safer.
BY ANNA WEBB - awebb@idahostatesman.com
Copyright: © 2009 Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/23/09


"Nothing we do now brings Robert back, but we're asking what we can do as a community to prevent this happening again," said Roger Sherman, director of the Idaho Children's Trust Fund.

Inspired by the case, local child welfare agencies already are working on ideas from 10 groups that met in Boise last week.

"A lot of people say we have a thriving community for kids, but there are obviously holes," Sherman said.

Sherman helped organize the meeting, which attracted representatives from the Court Appointed Special Advocate Program, Idaho Voices for Children, former Idaho first lady Patricia Kempthorne representing the Twiga Foundation, St. Luke's Prenatal Care, Head Start, Idaho Health and Welfare and others.

Everyone from PTA presidents to U.S. Sen. Mike Crapo says now is the time to channel the community's energy to improve the lives of local children. They are talking about ideas like:

® Adopting a version of the Harlem Children's Zone, a 35-year-old nonprofit program that has supported children in one of New York City's toughest neighborhoods.

® Finding ways to offer help to extended family, neighbors and others who seem to be in need, without being intrusive.

As thousands devoted time for Robert this summer, others have rallied for kids in Canyon County, too, inspired by the case of 14-year-old Zachary Neagle, accused of killing his father earlier this year - perhaps, as is alleged in court, after years of abuse.

It seems to organizers that the Treasure Valley is uniquely energized to take action on behalf of kids in trouble.

"But there needs to be leadership," Sherman said. "And it's still unclear what that action might be."

By coincidence, the groups met on the very day Robert's mother, Melissa Jenkins, and her boyfriend, Daniel Ehrlick, were arrested, charged with his murder.

"Over 2,000 people will pull together to search for a young boy, even when the search seems hopeless," he said. "Can we also figure out how to pull together on a daily basis to find kids like Robert with no place to turn?"

(snipped)


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 23, 2009, 02:02:11 PM
Thanks, very good article  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 23, 2009, 02:46:57 PM
Quote
http://crime.about.com/b/2009/08/01/idaho-8-year-olds-disappearance-suspicious.htm

if you go down further in the art. it has a link to police think...something...

i could be wrong but from what i understand Roberts dad is re-married to the first wife that killed the first baby.  she changed her last name, but still same person.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 23, 2009, 02:47:58 PM
Quote
His father's current wife, Silke Fatma Manwill, served time in federal prison for stabbing their 4-year-old son to death in 1993.

She was release from prison in 2002.

there it is. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 23, 2009, 04:39:32 PM
boggles the mind doesn't it Bearly? how anyone,let alone a mother sit and watch while a child is being tortured and beat to death? God knows that he must have cried out to his mother to help him...and she did nothing.....nothing...
hard to even think about....breaks my heart..

Mine too!  It takes my breath away--in a bad way.

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Bearlyhere on August 23, 2009, 05:25:36 PM
Quote
His father's current wife, Silke Fatma Manwill, served time in federal prison for stabbing their 4-year-old son to death in 1993.

She was release from prison in 2002.

there it is. ::MonkeyMad::

I see it, too.  It has to be wrong.

 ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 23, 2009, 05:35:23 PM
Here is obit off legacy.com. Step mother appears to Afton

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/idahostatesman/obituary.aspx?n=robert-grant-manwill&pid=131026814



Robert Grant Manwill Share E-mail Visit Guest Book
Robert Grant Manwill 2001 - 2009 Robert was born in June of 2001 in Boise, Idaho to Melissa Scott Jenkins and Charles Lee Manwill. His parents married in July of 2001. They made their home in Boise for a year. They then decided that they were just not meant to be together. Since both loved Robert with all their hearts they decided to part as friends and always put Robert first in the relationship and doing what was best for Robert. So until Robert was of age for school they split custody 50/50. Robert was extremely happy because he was able to spend equal time between both of his parent's homes. They always showed the courtesy to each other that the other parent deserved. This helped Robert because Robert loved both of his parents more than anyone else in the world. When Robert started school he went to stay with his mom more so he was able to attend Head Start in Boise. Robert lived primarily with his mother until his mother experienced complications with the pregnancy of Robert's little brother. So his mom decided to send him to live with his dad. Robert completed the first grade in New Plymouth. He also attended the second grade at the same school where he excelled in almost every subject and captured the hearts of a whole new community. If you would like to learn more about Robert's Life please visit his My Space Page at www.myspace.com/meetrobertmanwill Robert was a well loved little boy. He is survived by his mother, Melissa Jenkins and her children Aidan and RayLynn of Boise Idaho; Melissa's parents, Jeff and Dori Jenkins of Carlsbad, N.M.; his father, Charles Manwill and his wife, Afton Manwill, and their children, Kenneth, Miranda, and Hailee; Afton's parents, Mike and Jaylene Branson, all of New Plymouth, Idaho; and Charles's mother, Joan Manwill, of Boise, Idaho. Robert also has numerous aunts, uncles and cousins all over the United States. Although Roberts's life was cut short and he will be severely missed, Robert will not be alone. He has left us behind and gone into the loving arms of his paternal grandpa, Meryl, and his big brother, Michael. We know he will be taken care of in the next life because he will be with ones that will watch over and love him the way he deserves. Memorial services will be held at 2 p.m., Sunday, Aug. 9, 2009 at Cloverdale Funeral Home with Pastor George Sova officiating. Graveside inurnment services will follow at Cloverdale Memorial Park. Memorial contributions may be made in Robert's name to the Crime Victims Compensation Program, the Boise Police Department, or the Ronald McDonald House. Condolences for the family may be submitted online at www.CloverdaleFuneralHome.com.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 23, 2009, 06:25:01 PM
thanks...makes me feel better ::MonkeySkate::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: N2WISHN on August 23, 2009, 06:41:09 PM
thanks...makes me feel better ::MonkeySkate::


I never realized just how lousy reporting can be until I got involved in the Caylee case.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 23, 2009, 07:32:16 PM
thanks...makes me feel better ::MonkeySkate::


I never realized just how lousy reporting can be until I got involved in the Caylee case.
Heard! ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cookie on August 23, 2009, 07:35:03 PM
::MonkeyAngel:: I don't have much to add today about Robert, but prayers for his Dad, step mom and the family and mostly for Robert. He will always be in my prayers. God Bless you Little Man. JSM  ::MonkeyAngel::

love your new look JSM...too cute!

God bless Robert...


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cherjers on August 24, 2009, 05:08:14 PM
If she was a battered woman she more than likely didn't protect her son because she was afraid of getting beat or having her son hurt even worse than she thought he would be.  I have no doubt she loved him, I believe her grief is real.  She wanted to see her son so much I am sure and she was probably afraid to send him home early from his visitation with her because she knew once the father found out his son was abused she would never see him again, Dad would have made sure of that.  Battered women are stripped of everything.  Their pride, their self esteem, their self worth.  All she has left in this world is her children and now she has lost them forever.  This is a sad story of the cycle of abuse and how a mom is brought so low that she becomes selfish in what little she does have that she will not put the protection of her children first.  Not all battered women let it go that far but too many do.  They don't love who their man is, they love who he pretended to be when they met him, they hope and pray that he will go back to being that way, they fear for their lives, they fear for their kids, and they are brainwashed to believe they cannot survive without this man.  It is complete and total codependance at it's worst.  In some cases they only stay because the man has them convinced he will kill them or their children if they leave.  A lot of times the woman did leave to only be tracked down by him and and almost killed for doing so.  Plus they play up the whole "it's my child and I have a right to see him" if there are kids involved.  I am not making excuses for her, she deserves the punishment that she has coming to her, my guess is that even she agrees, even as she hopes for a different outcome.  There is more to this story than his mom is incompetant, but the worst thing is that this little boy had to pay the price for his mothers inability to see that her relationship was not worth it and that she should run, even if it meant never seeing Robert or his sister again, just so she could protect herself and the kids from him.
AVERY WELL WRITTEN POST-BUT I dont care what anyone does to you-if you love a child you would die before you let anyone hurt that child- KILL if thats what it takes--- no -she is no mother no pity for her-she should have taken a knife and stab him to stop him from beating Robert-what jury in the world would convict a mother who was protecing a child.  on the other hand what jury would show  pity to a mother that had no pity for her child.  She had a hard life BIG DEAL no one beat her to death ::MonkeyMad:: 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cherjers on August 24, 2009, 05:13:48 PM
boggles the mind doesn't it Bearly? how anyone,let alone a mother sit and watch while a child is being tortured and beat to death? God knows that he must have cried out to his mother to help him...and she did nothing.....nothing...
hard to even think about....breaks my heart..
  ::MonkeyNoNo::  The viciousness that people do to humans and animals just makes me physically ill.
I still dont understand why this child could not tell anyone what was going on.  I dont care what anyone says-family members must have know something- The sister thats aways talking-is this the mother sister-if so she had to know her sister was nuts- ::MonkeyMad:: If i had a sister likethat I would question my  nephew-ask him questions -take an interest in his life--so sad for this child-makes me sick
I would also, it seems she is just covering for her sister. I will never understand this mind set. I understand family and protecting family, but no way should one protect if you even have a tiny amount of feelings that something was terribly wrong with a child. The only thing perhaps is maybe Robert was told that if he tells anyone he will be killed? I just don't know.
No Rose its just so sad-when will people learn-does not mater if its your sister -son -who ever-its the child thats needs protection.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on August 24, 2009, 07:43:18 PM
If she was a battered woman she more than likely didn't protect her son because she was afraid of getting beat or having her son hurt even worse than she thought he would be.  I have no doubt she loved him, I believe her grief is real.  She wanted to see her son so much I am sure and she was probably afraid to send him home early from his visitation with her because she knew once the father found out his son was abused she would never see him again, Dad would have made sure of that.  Battered women are stripped of everything.  Their pride, their self esteem, their self worth.  All she has left in this world is her children and now she has lost them forever.  This is a sad story of the cycle of abuse and how a mom is brought so low that she becomes selfish in what little she does have that she will not put the protection of her children first.  Not all battered women let it go that far but too many do.  They don't love who their man is, they love who he pretended to be when they met him, they hope and pray that he will go back to being that way, they fear for their lives, they fear for their kids, and they are brainwashed to believe they cannot survive without this man.  It is complete and total codependance at it's worst.  In some cases they only stay because the man has them convinced he will kill them or their children if they leave.  A lot of times the woman did leave to only be tracked down by him and and almost killed for doing so.  Plus they play up the whole "it's my child and I have a right to see him" if there are kids involved.  I am not making excuses for her, she deserves the punishment that she has coming to her, my guess is that even she agrees, even as she hopes for a different outcome.  There is more to this story than his mom is incompetant, but the worst thing is that this little boy had to pay the price for his mothers inability to see that her relationship was not worth it and that she should run, even if it meant never seeing Robert or his sister again, just so she could protect herself and the kids from him.
AVERY WELL WRITTEN POST-BUT I dont care what anyone does to you-if you love a child you would die before you let anyone hurt that child- KILL if thats what it takes--- no -she is no mother no pity for her-she should have taken a knife and stab him to stop him from beating Robert-what jury in the world would convict a mother who was protecing a child.  on the other hand what jury would show  pity to a mother that had no pity for her child.  She had a hard life BIG DEAL no one beat her to death ::MonkeyMad:: 

Amen!

It's one thing if you are single with no kids. If you want to stay, hang out and keep being abused by a man, that's your choice. When there is a child involved, there is NO choice.

You do what you have to do to protect your child/children.

You don't hang around because "you love him". You don't put your children at risk one moment longer.

You get them the hell out of there. Send them away to out of state relatives, give them back to the other parent, hell...give them up for adoption, if it means keeping them safe.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cherjers on August 24, 2009, 08:58:22 PM
If she was a battered woman she more than likely didn't protect her son because she was afraid of getting beat or having her son hurt even worse than she thought he would be.  I have no doubt she loved him, I believe her grief is real.  She wanted to see her son so much I am sure and she was probably afraid to send him home early from his visitation with her because she knew once the father found out his son was abused she would never see him again, Dad would have made sure of that.  Battered women are stripped of everything.  Their pride, their self esteem, their self worth.  All she has left in this world is her children and now she has lost them forever.  This is a sad story of the cycle of abuse and how a mom is brought so low that she becomes selfish in what little she does have that she will not put the protection of her children first.  Not all battered women let it go that far but too many do.  They don't love who their man is, they love who he pretended to be when they met him, they hope and pray that he will go back to being that way, they fear for their lives, they fear for their kids, and they are brainwashed to believe they cannot survive without this man.  It is complete and total codependance at it's worst.  In some cases they only stay because the man has them convinced he will kill them or their children if they leave.  A lot of times the woman did leave to only be tracked down by him and and almost killed for doing so.  Plus they play up the whole "it's my child and I have a right to see him" if there are kids involved.  I am not making excuses for her, she deserves the punishment that she has coming to her, my guess is that even she agrees, even as she hopes for a different outcome.  There is more to this story than his mom is incompetant, but the worst thing is that this little boy had to pay the price for his mothers inability to see that her relationship was not worth it and that she should run, even if it meant never seeing Robert or his sister again, just so she could protect herself and the kids from him.
AVERY WELL WRITTEN POST-BUT I dont care what anyone does to you-if you love a child you would die before you let anyone hurt that child- KILL if thats what it takes--- no -she is no mother no pity for her-she should have taken a knife and stab him to stop him from beating Robert-what jury in the world would convict a mother who was protecing a child.  on the other hand what jury would show  pity to a mother that had no pity for her child.  She had a hard life BIG DEAL no one beat her to death ::MonkeyMad:: 

Amen!

It's one thing if you are single with no kids. If you want to stay, hang out and keep being abused by a man, that's your choice. When there is a child involved, there is NO choice.

You do what you have to do to protect your child/children.

You don't hang around because "you love him". You don't put your children at risk one moment longer.

You get them the hell out of there. Send them away to out of state relatives, give them back to the other parent, hell...give them up for adoption, if it means keeping them safe.
Pink angel --you are right on-she could have sent him home to his father-I hope i never understand how these people do the things they do ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: luvmyboys on August 24, 2009, 11:04:22 PM
Oh wow. I totally do not agree with ariana. The day that robert mom/egg donor gave birth to him. She made the choice to protect him all the days of his life. She knew what she was doing was wrong. She couls have got out anytime with robert being there or even when he wasn't. There is NO excuse for her letting that poor child get treated the way she did. None at all. It was her job to always make sure he was safe. I always tell my sister who I think often makes mistakes with her 15 year old daughter. You only get one chance. That is it. 1 and if you mess up you can never get it back never. She was letting her rome the neighbor hood. Go here go there. Do this and do that. Well she did some things that she should not have done. Went and was sneaking out of the house. I found out about it. And not by my sister who I have been telling the whole time. You give an inch they take a mile. It is what it is. You know. Well I flipped out when I found out and I told my sister and we r close. But I told her if I ever think that you are not doing right as a parent. I will do what ever it takes to make sure you do. Because you olnly get one chance. So back to the mom/egg donor the he**  with her. She is a piece of crap that is in my yard. And I also think that some people in her family or his knew how robert was being treated. And they stood by and did not do sh*t. And they will have to deal with that for the rest of there lives.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: dadsgrl1255 on August 25, 2009, 10:30:46 AM
Quote
http://crime.about.com/b/2009/08/01/idaho-8-year-olds-disappearance-suspicious.htm

if you go down further in the art. it has a link to police think...something...

i could be wrong but from what i understand Roberts dad is re-married to the first wife that killed the first baby.  she changed her last name, but still same person.

what is wrong with people?


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cherjers on August 25, 2009, 12:20:09 PM
Quote
http://crime.about.com/b/2009/08/01/idaho-8-year-olds-disappearance-suspicious.htm

if you go down further in the art. it has a link to police think...something...

i could be wrong but from what i understand Roberts dad is re-married to the first wife that killed the first baby.  she changed her last name, but still same person.

what is wrong with people?
  Thats what I get from the article-wow this is the first time I read that-it has not be reported that way on the news.  Well poor Robert what a hell his life must have been.  AS far as I am concern (if this is true the father is nuts too) how do re marry some one who killed your child.  I guess these people just feel they can have more kids --children are replaceable to these nuts ::MonkeyMad::  Why do they have children in the first place-that I will never understand ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Ariana on August 25, 2009, 02:05:27 PM
If she was a battered woman she more than likely didn't protect her son because she was afraid of getting beat or having her son hurt even worse than she thought he would be.  I have no doubt she loved him, I believe her grief is real.  She wanted to see her son so much I am sure and she was probably afraid to send him home early from his visitation with her because she knew once the father found out his son was abused she would never see him again, Dad would have made sure of that.  Battered women are stripped of everything.  Their pride, their self esteem, their self worth.  All she has left in this world is her children and now she has lost them forever.  This is a sad story of the cycle of abuse and how a mom is brought so low that she becomes selfish in what little she does have that she will not put the protection of her children first.  Not all battered women let it go that far but too many do.  They don't love who their man is, they love who he pretended to be when they met him, they hope and pray that he will go back to being that way, they fear for their lives, they fear for their kids, and they are brainwashed to believe they cannot survive without this man.  It is complete and total codependance at it's worst.  In some cases they only stay because the man has them convinced he will kill them or their children if they leave.  A lot of times the woman did leave to only be tracked down by him and and almost killed for doing so.  Plus they play up the whole "it's my child and I have a right to see him" if there are kids involved.  I am not making excuses for her, she deserves the punishment that she has coming to her, my guess is that even she agrees, even as she hopes for a different outcome.  There is more to this story than his mom is incompetant, but the worst thing is that this little boy had to pay the price for his mothers inability to see that her relationship was not worth it and that she should run, even if it meant never seeing Robert or his sister again, just so she could protect herself and the kids from him.

First, my post was to explain the view from a battered woman.  I never said I agree with what she did.  And Luvmyboys, the underlined statement is where I gave my exact opinion of Roberts mother, not explaining battered women in general.  So what part don't you agree with?  Because if you pay attention to what I said I believe she deserves what is coming to her and I'd like to add that she really doesn't deserve any of her kids.


Also, it has been pointed out that Roberts dad is NOT married to his exwife.  His father is Charles Manwill and his wife is Afton Manwill.  If he was stupid enough to remarry his first wife he wouldn't deserve to have his kids either. MO


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: burkieandemme on August 25, 2009, 02:13:17 PM
I saw this article and thought this might bring about something positive in this heart breaking tragedy.   ::MonkeyAngel::

2,300 people helped search for Robert Manwill. Local groups want to channel that energy to make kids safer.
BY ANNA WEBB - awebb@idahostatesman.com
Copyright: © 2009 Idaho Statesman
Published: 08/23/09


"Nothing we do now brings Robert back, but we're asking what we can do as a community to prevent this happening again," said Roger Sherman, director of the Idaho Children's Trust Fund.

Inspired by the case, local child welfare agencies already are working on ideas from 10 groups that met in Boise last week.

"A lot of people say we have a thriving community for kids, but there are obviously holes," Sherman said.

Sherman helped organize the meeting, which attracted representatives from the Court Appointed Special Advocate Program, Idaho Voices for Children, former Idaho first lady Patricia Kempthorne representing the Twiga Foundation, St. Luke's Prenatal Care, Head Start, Idaho Health and Welfare and others.

Everyone from PTA presidents to U.S. Sen. Mike Crapo says now is the time to channel the community's energy to improve the lives of local children. They are talking about ideas like:

® Adopting a version of the Harlem Children's Zone, a 35-year-old nonprofit program that has supported children in one of New York City's toughest neighborhoods.

® Finding ways to offer help to extended family, neighbors and others who seem to be in need, without being intrusive.

As thousands devoted time for Robert this summer, others have rallied for kids in Canyon County, too, inspired by the case of 14-year-old Zachary Neagle, accused of killing his father earlier this year - perhaps, as is alleged in court, after years of abuse.

It seems to organizers that the Treasure Valley is uniquely energized to take action on behalf of kids in trouble.

"But there needs to be leadership," Sherman said. "And it's still unclear what that action might be."

By coincidence, the groups met on the very day Robert's mother, Melissa Jenkins, and her boyfriend, Daniel Ehrlick, were arrested, charged with his murder.

"Over 2,000 people will pull together to search for a young boy, even when the search seems hopeless," he said. "Can we also figure out how to pull together on a daily basis to find kids like Robert with no place to turn?"

CAN WE TRACK EVERY SINGLE CHILD?

Nicole Sirak, director of the Court Appointed Special Advocate Program, said she and the others are looking at how one child welfare model, the Harlem Children's Zone, might be put to use locally.

The program, which has been going on for three decades, works with every child in a 97-block area of the city, overseeing not only kids but the welfare, education and health of their families. The program cares for kids from "cradle to college" with a "whatever it takes" philosophy.

The program has been getting attention lately. President Barack Obama is a fan. "This American Life," a program on National Public Radio, aired a story on the nonprofit just last weekend.

Sirak said the meeting attendees talked about how an urban program might take a more rural form in Idaho.

"We were trying to decide what our version of '97 blocks' would be," she said. "Is it all Title One schools (with lots of low-income families)? Is it the 4th Judicial District (Ada, Boise, Elmore and Valley counties), where 730 kids come into foster care each year? Is it families who are on the radar of courts and social services who have struggled in the past?"

In Robert's case, he and his younger half-brother, Aidan, were allowed back into their mother's home months after she was convicted of fracturing the younger boy's skull. State Health and Welfare officials haven't released any information about how Jenkins regained custody.

Sherman said already existing programs might also offer good models, including an anti-violence campaign at Mercy Medical Center in Nampa. Programs at United Way, including a kindergarten-preparedness program, also support kids and their families.

Liberty Elementary PTA members want to set aside money in their budget for monthly family nights at the school, with the sole purpose of making sure parents know other parents and parents know kids in other families, said Stacey St. Amand, interim director of the nonprofit Idaho Voices for Children and PTA president at Liberty.

The group is aiming for 100 percent participation.

"Because we're seeing more and more need in our school, more kids who need help paying for lunch and free breakfasts, more of a need for donated clothing, more parents who don't have jobs or are working two jobs, which can create even more need in kids," she said.

MAYBE IT'S TIME TO INTERVENE

Sherman said that while child protection programs are suffering from underfunding, the issue reaches beyond programs.

Sometimes, helping kids comes down to "making a cultural shift that increases the sharing, neighbor to neighbor," he said.

The trick is to work out the balance between giving families their privacy and stepping in to take action when it looks like someone's in trouble.

"As private citizens, we can be aware of our surroundings," St. Amand said. "If you see, or suspect child abuse, you need to report it. It's a simple process. You call the Idaho Care Line at 211.

"My feeling is you're morally bound as a human being to do that. It sounds corny, but it does take a village. In my own neighborhood, I've seen kids abusing BB guns and airsoft rifles against each other. I intervene, because it's just wrong, and I feel it's my duty. Then again, I grew up with a father who was always yelling at speeders on our street to slow down."

In a column this week, Crapo called on the community as well.

"Pay attention to what is happening around you and don't hesitate to help someone who you suspect might be in trouble," he said. "Vigilance demands that we speak up, point out, notice our surroundings and listen to our instinct. It is always better to err on the side of caution."

Patricia Kempthorne, who now advocates for children through the Twiga Foundation, said she was reminded recently of this need when she saw a woman struggling to cross a street.

The woman had two children and a baby in a stroller. She was obviously having a hard time, losing her temper. People were nearby, watching her, but didn't speak to her. It reminded Kempthorne of an incident in her own past.

"I was sitting in my car at the post office, having one of those days," she said. "My kids were in the back seat, and I was yelling at the steering wheel. A man came and tapped on my window and asked if he could help. Just that offer defused the moment. That happened about 25 years ago, and I've never forgotten it.

"I wondered why I didn't have the same courage to walk up to that woman the other day, the way that man did for me. Maybe all she needed was to know that someone cared," Kempthorne said.

By the end of the Tuesday meeting, she said, she was thinking of the volunteer searchers who came to look for any trace of the missing child as "2,300 neighbors" - people who were willing to get involved in the life of someone they didn't know.

Anna Webb: 377-6431
http://www.idahostatesman.com/localnews/story/874406.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 25, 2009, 03:17:45 PM
That is a nice article. TY burkie for sharing.

But the issue is more complicated then people helping each other out.  1000 children under the age of 6 are murdered in the US every year.  That is a staggering number.  I read that on Blink's site involving the Caylee case. 

It does take a village and it does take stronger laws and better stop gaps in place for these children.

In Robert's case no one intervened because the government had..and had done a very poor job of it..

Supposedly this mother and her boyfriend had met the State standard to get the baby back and visitation for the summer with Robert.  The standards they set are a joke.  Look at the anger management classes they atteneded , not because they requested them..because the State told them to take them.  You can't force people to learn, absorb and act a certain way if they don't want to..you can't legislate caring, concern or smarts.  These people taking a class is one thing..following through and actually learning and practicing what they know is another.

Can we say this was a complete failure on the State's part...especially when whomever is head of social services in that state said they looked at what had been done since the baby's skull was cracked and they felt satisfied everything they had done was correct.  Well..it may be correct..but it didn't save this child.

The only thing that would have saved this child was permanent custody with his Dad and no visititation with his mother.  Stupid is as stupid does.  We need to vote in people who will take a strong stand on child abuse..not just put in place things that look good on paper but actually do not produce the desired results.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: no rose colored glasses on August 25, 2009, 03:51:11 PM
Great post Gypsy DD and so very true. This is all so frustrating I could just scream.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: luvmyboys on August 25, 2009, 08:21:23 PM
Ariana. I really did not mean no disrespect. It seemed that in some of the comments that you were maken was like you understood how she did what she did. And makeing excuses for her. This is a very very hard thing for me to take in. And I know that a lot of people have a hard time. Believing what has happened to little robert. I am really sorry if I offended you. I am truely sorry like I said it seemed that some of the comments made were makeing excuses. But I really did not mean to upset you.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 25, 2009, 08:52:40 PM
Ariana. I really did not mean no disrespect. It seemed that in some of the comments that you were maken was like you understood how she did what she did. And makeing excuses for her. This is a very very hard thing for me to take in. And I know that a lot of people have a hard time. Believing what has happened to little robert. I am really sorry if I offended you. I am truely sorry like I said it seemed that some of the comments made were makeing excuses. But I really did not mean to upset you.

Luv..I totally agree with your stance..if women can't get themselves out of abusive relationships ..then at least they need the common sense to turn over custody of their kids to the state or another family member who they trust.  Abused women do not trust their abuser..they are brainwashed.  There are no good reasons that Robert's Mom did not turnover sole custody to his Dad, if she felt any sorrow in what was happening to him. 

So she puts up with the abuse for 1 of 10,000 reasons..each different for each abused Mom..but no excuse for not getting Robert or the baby out..court was the perfect time..visits with the social workers about the baby was another.  She had outs for the children..she didn't take them. That is a whole different area then spousal abuse.  Many abused women would never ever think twice about helping their child if they were also being abused.  They would get the children to safety. There is a huge difference between spousal abuse and abuse of everyone in the family.  Most women have an instinct to save their young.  This one didn't.  And it appears she participated in some of that abuse.

The court found her guilty of child abuse with the infant.  She could have stopped  this at that point.  She could have called from her job, when Robert was being abused.

Surely the bruises and cuts on that child would have told the story.  There are many abused women who have died in order to protect their children from the abuse of their significant other.  Nope..no excuses for this piece of chit Mom....she had ample time when she was away from the home to even anonymously report this..and she didn't.

Of course this is just my opinion..but abused women usually try to protect their kids.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 25, 2009, 11:07:47 PM
Quote
http://crime.about.com/b/2009/08/01/idaho-8-year-olds-disappearance-suspicious.htm

if you go down further in the art. it has a link to police think...something...

i could be wrong but from what i understand Roberts dad is re-married to the first wife that killed the first baby.  she changed her last name, but still same person.

what is wrong with people?
i don't know?  but regarding that link we come to the idea that it was just bad reporting.  sorry, i did post it but i didn't realize it wasn't right.   ::MonkeyRoll::

but to tell the truth to find out it was a reporting mistake made me feel better...(i just couldn't imagine.)
 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 25, 2009, 11:09:03 PM
Ariana. I really did not mean no disrespect. It seemed that in some of the comments that you were maken was like you understood how she did what she did. And makeing excuses for her. This is a very very hard thing for me to take in. And I know that a lot of people have a hard time. Believing what has happened to little robert. I am really sorry if I offended you. I am truely sorry like I said it seemed that some of the comments made were makeing excuses. But I really did not mean to upset you.

Luv..I totally agree with your stance..if women can't get themselves out of abusive relationships ..then at least they need the common sense to turn over custody of their kids to the state or another family member who they trust.  Abused women do not trust their abuser..they are brainwashed.  There are no good reasons that Robert's Mom did not turnover sole custody to his Dad, if she felt any sorrow in what was happening to him. 

So she puts up with the abuse for 1 of 10,000 reasons..each different for each abused Mom..but no excuse for not getting Robert or the baby out..court was the perfect time..visits with the social workers about the baby was another.  She had outs for the children..she didn't take them. That is a whole different area then spousal abuse.  Many abused women would never ever think twice about helping their child if they were also being abused.  They would get the children to safety. There is a huge difference between spousal abuse and abuse of everyone in the family.  Most women have an instinct to save their young.  This one didn't.  And it appears she participated in some of that abuse.

The court found her guilty of child abuse with the infant.  She could have stopped  this at that point.  She could have called from her job, when Robert was being abused.

Surely the bruises and cuts on that child would have told the story.  There are many abused women who have died in order to protect their children from the abuse of their significant other.  Nope..no excuses for this piece of chit Mom....she had ample time when she was away from the home to even anonymously report this..and she didn't.

Of course this is just my opinion..but abused women usually try to protect their kids.
imo..we have no info she was ever abused but we know for a fact she is alive and Robert is not. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Tina Bee on August 26, 2009, 01:00:19 AM
If she was a battered woman she more than likely didn't protect her son because she was afraid of getting beat or having her son hurt even worse than she thought he would be.  I have no doubt she loved him, I believe her grief is real.  She wanted to see her son so much I am sure and she was probably afraid to send him home early from his visitation with her because she knew once the father found out his son was abused she would never see him again, Dad would have made sure of that.  Battered women are stripped of everything.  Their pride, their self esteem, their self worth.  All she has left in this world is her children and now she has lost them forever.  This is a sad story of the cycle of abuse and how a mom is brought so low that she becomes selfish in what little she does have that she will not put the protection of her children first.  Not all battered women let it go that far but too many do.  They don't love who their man is, they love who he pretended to be when they met him, they hope and pray that he will go back to being that way, they fear for their lives, they fear for their kids, and they are brainwashed to believe they cannot survive without this man.  It is complete and total codependance at it's worst.  In some cases they only stay because the man has them convinced he will kill them or their children if they leave.  A lot of times the woman did leave to only be tracked down by him and and almost killed for doing so.  Plus they play up the whole "it's my child and I have a right to see him" if there are kids involved.  I am not making excuses for her, she deserves the punishment that she has coming to her, my guess is that even she agrees, even as she hopes for a different outcome.  There is more to this story than his mom is incompetant, but the worst thing is that this little boy had to pay the price for his mothers inability to see that her relationship was not worth it and that she should run, even if it meant never seeing Robert or his sister again, just so she could protect herself and the kids from him.

If you have children I believe your maternal instincts should kick in and all you should want to do is protect your blood no matter what. Weak minded women get into these types of situations (apparently Robert's mother can't even read and that just shows how she see's herself, no self-esteem) and then they drag their children through it just so their man can have extra minds to warp and torture.

These women are usually selfish OR have a false sense of superiority whenever they're in a relationship. They cannot conduct themselves unless they have a man to answer to. I have no sympathy for this mother even if she was a battered woman.

In this society it's sad how police and CPS won't do a thing to stop domestic abuse of this kind. Now that a little boy has been murdered they can step in and do what they should've done in the first place.

The only thing this woman (and other woman like her) knows how to do is make babies and abuse them. You think she ever loved her children? No, she didn't!


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: luvmyboys on August 26, 2009, 01:01:12 AM
Yes that is ashame that robert had to go through what he did. I just don't get it. How can someone let this happen to there own child or even do it there selves. But I have faith and I have been hopeing that one day as they r both in prison. Someone will give them the beat down that they gave little robert. I mean really if I had done something to be in prison for the rest of my life. And it wouls not be for killing a child or helping or what ever the case may be. And she was to come to the prison I was in. God help her would be all I could say. Because some of them woman don't have a thing to loose. So she will gets hers sooner or later. And the boyfriend prolly will to. Just like casey. Because you can't hide forever sooner or later. They won't be under watch so noone can get to you. I hate them people for what they did to little robert and to his dad and the rest of the family. And for what they did to me. Because when I go to bed at night I see him playing on that playground haven fun. I think about him everyday. And sandra and casey. And nevaha. Prolly not spelled right but u all know. And I want so so badly to know where haleigh is at. Ugh


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: luvmyboys on August 26, 2009, 01:09:20 AM
No no no. I don't think about casey I think about caylee. I worded that wrong. Casey on the other hand. I am tired of waiting to see what is gonna happen with her. I want this over just like so many other people do. I can not stand any of the anthony's. I would love to knock on cindy's door and jerk her out and beat her a**  untill she told the truth because show knows. For that matter. They all know a lot more than they r telling. Gnite u guys its late hear in north carolina


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on August 26, 2009, 09:20:02 AM
::MonkeyAngel:: I don't have much to add today about Robert, but prayers for his Dad, step mom and the family and mostly for Robert. He will always be in my prayers. God Bless you Little Man. JSM  ::MonkeyAngel::

love your new look JSM...too cute!

God bless Robert...
Thanks Cookie God Bless Robert!  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Tina Bee on August 26, 2009, 09:48:17 AM
No no no. I don't think about casey I think about caylee. I worded that wrong. Casey on the other hand. I am tired of waiting to see what is gonna happen with her. I want this over just like so many other people do. I can not stand any of the anthony's. I would love to knock on cindy's door and jerk her out and beat her a**  untill she told the truth because show knows. For that matter. They all know a lot more than they r telling. Gnite u guys its late hear in north carolina

I agree with everything you had to say about Robert's "mom" and boyfriend. Those two WILL be getting there's real soon.

The man who helped kill and dispose of Jada Justice (little 2 year old girl from Gary, Indiana) is getting beat down day in and day out and I'm sure that will be the same story for the boyfriend is this tragedy.

Child killers have it rough in prison. Casey will see NO sympathy, but I pray to God everynight she's put on death row and sent to solitary confinement with pictures of Caylee posted everywhere in her cell until her execution date. By then she'll be stark raving mad and will likely beg for death. I know that's awful, but it's just how I feel.

I wish her trial would hurry up, but I won't let Casey steal Robert's shine like she stole Caylee's.

Justice will be served for Robert and I hope his family gets the closure they deserve in this case.


Title: Re: 7/23/09 - 8 year old Robert Manwill, missing from Boise, Idaho
Post by: cherjers on August 26, 2009, 10:10:34 AM


For some reason, some cases hurt more than others and I don't know why, maybe because they seem to have been predictable and preventable. 

I am bawling my eyes out.  I can just imagine the pain in having to give the child to a non custodial parent, knowing 'something bad was going to happen'.  It makes me feel for some parents that kidnap their own child instead of handing them over to the other parent, when in their gut they know handing them over is wrong. 

Wtf, was this judge thinking?  Wth is the law going to be on the kids' side?

Sorry for the language, I feel deep in my soul some of these cases are preventable. 

Robert has had such a tough, tough life...and it appears a tough, tough death.

I am praying for Robert and all who love him (that includes the monkeys and you, pink).

xo


you are so right-I cant see a picture of Robert he looks just like my grandson-brought this story to close to home- made me really sick-


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cherjers on August 26, 2009, 10:13:33 AM
Ariana. I really did not mean no disrespect. It seemed that in some of the comments that you were maken was like you understood how she did what she did. And makeing excuses for her. This is a very very hard thing for me to take in. And I know that a lot of people have a hard time. Believing what has happened to little robert. I am really sorry if I offended you. I am truely sorry like I said it seemed that some of the comments made were makeing excuses. But I really did not mean to upset you.
lovemyboys--I agree with you-I am sure you did not mean to disrespect-but I took the post the smae way you did-any understanding for this women -makes me furious


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 26, 2009, 11:12:31 AM
Ariana. I really did not mean no disrespect. It seemed that in some of the comments that you were maken was like you understood how she did what she did. And makeing excuses for her. This is a very very hard thing for me to take in. And I know that a lot of people have a hard time. Believing what has happened to little robert. I am really sorry if I offended you. I am truely sorry like I said it seemed that some of the comments made were makeing excuses. But I really did not mean to upset you.

Luv..I totally agree with your stance..if women can't get themselves out of abusive relationships ..then at least they need the common sense to turn over custody of their kids to the state or another family member who they trust.  Abused women do not trust their abuser..they are brainwashed.  There are no good reasons that Robert's Mom did not turnover sole custody to his Dad, if she felt any sorrow in what was happening to him. 

So she puts up with the abuse for 1 of 10,000 reasons..each different for each abused Mom..but no excuse for not getting Robert or the baby out..court was the perfect time..visits with the social workers about the baby was another.  She had outs for the children..she didn't take them. That is a whole different area then spousal abuse.  Many abused women would never ever think twice about helping their child if they were also being abused.  They would get the children to safety. There is a huge difference between spousal abuse and abuse of everyone in the family.  Most women have an instinct to save their young.  This one didn't.  And it appears she participated in some of that abuse.

The court found her guilty of child abuse with the infant.  She could have stopped  this at that point.  She could have called from her job, when Robert was being abused.

Surely the bruises and cuts on that child would have told the story.  There are many abused women who have died in order to protect their children from the abuse of their significant other.  Nope..no excuses for this piece of chit Mom....she had ample time when she was away from the home to even anonymously report this..and she didn't.

Of course this is just my opinion..but abused women usually try to protect their kids.
imo..we have no info she was ever abused but we know for a fact she is alive and Robert is not. ::MonkeyMad::

Mamma it came out in the custody hearing for Robert when egg donor was having a difficult pregnancy with Aiden , that Robert had told his Dad he had seen Boyfriend abuse egg donor.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: burkieandemme on August 26, 2009, 01:01:05 PM
Hello Gypsy DD!

Sorry for not responding sooner.  I totally agree the only thing that could have saved Robert would have been if Charles had was full custody, along with a restraining order against both egg donor and her man.  I feel the system had failed Robert and his siblings every step of the way. I feel until children are viewed as citizens of this country vs. property, we will see more and more crimes of this nature. 

What I liked about the article I posted yesterday is the way this community is comming together; not letting Robert's memory fade into the hum drums of everyday life. Now if someone sees marks on a child, suspicious body language, etc.  they will report the incident.  They will not assume someone else will report the abuse.  They will not feel it is not their "place" to intervene. They will not assume the "system" will protect children.  They will not be indifferent.  They will get involved.

True you can not legislate compassion.  However, the more people realize how horrible our justice system is they will stand up to the same system that is currently giving sex offenders and child abusers a slight slap on the wrist along with a stern finger shaking.  The more out raged society becomes, change will come.  Apathy and indifference will fade away (kind of like the careers of some of these poor excuses for judges!).



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Ariana on August 26, 2009, 04:11:11 PM
With it being stated that the state wants to help more kids in abusive situations, and presumably their families as a whole (women abuse husbands too) it is helpful to know where a battered woman/man is coming from.  As my neighbor, and a battered woman herself said, she would rather be with someone abusing her that she loves than deal with people who are abusing her by putting her down and telling her how stupid she is that don't mean anything to her.  Because people that judge the woman aren't helping her, they are abusing her as well.  The programs that are in place need to be supportive and not condescending, or they are not successful at all. 

The system totally failed this boy.  It is amazing to me that the state did not make her present Robert to them when they were visiting the house.  Amazing still that the courts knew that the bf abused he and still let her have visitation with him involved.  In Texas they come to your house and suspect that abuse is going on and you can say goodbye to your kids.  Their thinking is that you choose to be abused, your child wouldn't if he had a choice.  And it is abuse if that child has to watch you be hit as well.  The plans for programs are great ideas but they will be even more effective if they have some legislation passed to back them up.


Roberts justice is coming.  I can't wait for the day.  This is one case that I pray the max penalty is used.  And hope to God that Idaho is not one of those states that does not have the death penalty.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Gizzie on August 26, 2009, 10:42:20 PM
With it being stated that the state wants to help more kids in abusive situations, and presumably their families as a whole (women abuse husbands too) it is helpful to know where a battered woman/man is coming from.  As my neighbor, and a battered woman herself said, she would rather be with someone abusing her that she loves than deal with people who are abusing her by putting her down and telling her how stupid she is that don't mean anything to her.  Because people that judge the woman aren't helping her, they are abusing her as well. The programs that are in place need to be supportive and not condescending, or they are not successful at all. 

The system totally failed this boy.  It is amazing to me that the state did not make her present Robert to them when they were visiting the house.  Amazing still that the courts knew that the bf abused he and still let her have visitation with him involved.  In Texas they come to your house and suspect that abuse is going on and you can say goodbye to your kids.  Their thinking is that you choose to be abused, your child wouldn't if he had a choice.  And it is abuse if that child has to watch you be hit as well.  The plans for programs are great ideas but they will be even more effective if they have some legislation passed to back them up.


Roberts justice is coming.  I can't wait for the day.  This is one case that I pray the max penalty is used.  And hope to God that Idaho is not one of those states that does not have the death penalty.

No disrespect to you Ariana, but this statement makes no sense to me. Coming from an abusive marriage myself, I have to say that I would much rather prefer to be alone, than to be with either an abusive partner or listen to people putting me down!

Wonder, does she have any children, that she would rather have in an abusive household, versus people making fun of them?  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Again, no disrespect to you. I just don't understand her thinking.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: mamacrazy30 on August 26, 2009, 10:51:35 PM
Ariana. I really did not mean no disrespect. It seemed that in some of the comments that you were maken was like you understood how she did what she did. And makeing excuses for her. This is a very very hard thing for me to take in. And I know that a lot of people have a hard time. Believing what has happened to little robert. I am really sorry if I offended you. I am truely sorry like I said it seemed that some of the comments made were makeing excuses. But I really did not mean to upset you.

Luv..I totally agree with your stance..if women can't get themselves out of abusive relationships ..then at least they need the common sense to turn over custody of their kids to the state or another family member who they trust.  Abused women do not trust their abuser..they are brainwashed.  There are no good reasons that Robert's Mom did not turnover sole custody to his Dad, if she felt any sorrow in what was happening to him. 

So she puts up with the abuse for 1 of 10,000 reasons..each different for each abused Mom..but no excuse for not getting Robert or the baby out..court was the perfect time..visits with the social workers about the baby was another.  She had outs for the children..she didn't take them. That is a whole different area then spousal abuse.  Many abused women would never ever think twice about helping their child if they were also being abused.  They would get the children to safety. There is a huge difference between spousal abuse and abuse of everyone in the family.  Most women have an instinct to save their young.  This one didn't.  And it appears she participated in some of that abuse.

The court found her guilty of child abuse with the infant.  She could have stopped  this at that point.  She could have called from her job, when Robert was being abused.

Surely the bruises and cuts on that child would have told the story.  There are many abused women who have died in order to protect their children from the abuse of their significant other.  Nope..no excuses for this piece of chit Mom....she had ample time when she was away from the home to even anonymously report this..and she didn't.

Of course this is just my opinion..but abused women usually try to protect their kids.
imo..we have no info she was ever abused but we know for a fact she is alive and Robert is not. ::MonkeyMad::

Mamma it came out in the custody hearing for Robert when egg donor was having a difficult pregnancy with Aiden , that Robert had told his Dad he had seen Boyfriend abuse egg donor.
i missed that and now i'm almost glad i did...so dad knows "mom" is getting beat up and sends his son to stay there? 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Gypsy DD on August 28, 2009, 09:24:56 PM
Ariana. I really did not mean no disrespect. It seemed that in some of the comments that you were maken was like you understood how she did what she did. And makeing excuses for her. This is a very very hard thing for me to take in. And I know that a lot of people have a hard time. Believing what has happened to little robert. I am really sorry if I offended you. I am truely sorry like I said it seemed that some of the comments made were makeing excuses. But I really did not mean to upset you.

Luv..I totally agree with your stance..if women can't get themselves out of abusive relationships ..then at least they need the common sense to turn over custody of their kids to the state or another family member who they trust.  Abused women do not trust their abuser..they are brainwashed.  There are no good reasons that Robert's Mom did not turnover sole custody to his Dad, if she felt any sorrow in what was happening to him. 

So she puts up with the abuse for 1 of 10,000 reasons..each different for each abused Mom..but no excuse for not getting Robert or the baby out..court was the perfect time..visits with the social workers about the baby was another.  She had outs for the children..she didn't take them. That is a whole different area then spousal abuse.  Many abused women would never ever think twice about helping their child if they were also being abused.  They would get the children to safety. There is a huge difference between spousal abuse and abuse of everyone in the family.  Most women have an instinct to save their young.  This one didn't.  And it appears she participated in some of that abuse.

The court found her guilty of child abuse with the infant.  She could have stopped  this at that point.  She could have called from her job, when Robert was being abused.

Surely the bruises and cuts on that child would have told the story.  There are many abused women who have died in order to protect their children from the abuse of their significant other.  Nope..no excuses for this piece of chit Mom....she had ample time when she was away from the home to even anonymously report this..and she didn't.

Of course this is just my opinion..but abused women usually try to protect their kids.
imo..we have no info she was ever abused but we know for a fact she is alive and Robert is not. ::MonkeyMad::

Mamma it came out in the custody hearing for Robert when egg donor was having a difficult pregnancy with Aiden , that Robert had told his Dad he had seen Boyfriend abuse egg donor.
i missed that and now i'm almost glad i did...so dad knows "mom" is getting beat up and sends his son to stay there? 

Mamma..I don't think his Dad had any choice in the matter.  He was given custody during the school year..and then she had a few weeks at time in the summer at this point.  If the court says the mother gets the child so many weeks a year..and don't think there was anything else he could have done.  Why the court allowed her to have either child in her custody at any time I'll never understand.  Supervised visits yes..but not even short custody stays in summer.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Gizzie on August 28, 2009, 11:47:49 PM


Mamma..I don't think his Dad had any choice in the matter.  He was given custody during the school year..and then she had a few weeks at time in the summer at this point.  If the court says the mother gets the child so many weeks a year..and don't think there was anything else he could have done.  Why the court allowed her to have either child in her custody at any time I'll never understand. Supervised visits yes..but not even short custody stays in summer.

 ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyNoNo::
 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on September 02, 2009, 12:33:09 PM

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Lighting a candle for Robert and saying a prayer for his family that is grieving him being gone.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m

You have been in my thoughts on a daily basis little dude.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 02, 2009, 09:32:17 PM

Someone killed 8-year-old Robert Manwill
BY KATHLEEN KRELLER AND KATY MOELLER - kkreller@idahostatesman.com kmoeller@idahostatesman.com

As Boise Deputy Police Chief Jim Kerns promised Wednesday to "determine how and when Robert Manwill died, and who is responsible," his comments narrowed the field of suspects to people who knew Robert.

Police still won't name any suspects or even people of interest. Kerns said police would not prematurely release anything that could "compromise the legal procedures" and the integrity of their case.

A neighbor said she heard Melissa Jenkins tell police she was working the night 8-year-old Robert disappeared. Another neighbor said she saw Daniel Ehrlick Jr. about 7:45 that night outside his home. He often stayed home to care for Robert and the couple's 18-month-old son, Aidan.

State Health and Welfare officials had taken the younger boy away from Jenkins and Ehrlick Jr. last October, after Jenkins was charged with fracturing the child's skull.

Jenkins later was convicted of misdemeanor injury to a child and is on probation until March 2011.

A neighbor and friend, Carol Carrillo, said Aidan had been back in their custody for about two months. She said the couple worked hard to meet Health and Welfare standards to get him back.[/color]
Robert lived primarily with his father, Charles, in New Plymouth - an arrangement crafted after Jenkins was laid up in the hospital for a few weeks before Aidan was born and she had no one to take care of Robert.

An affidavit that Charles Manwill filed at the time to get temporary custody of Robert states that Jenkins told him she "was being physically abused by her ex-boyfriend (the apparent father of the unborn child)."

He added that the hospital "has kept the admission of mother Melissa, and her room number, secret because mother Melissa is concerned that the ex-boyfriend may storm into the hospital and mother Melissa's room and cause extreme trouble."

Ehrlick Jr. also has been barred from being around Jenkins' daughter, not from anything he did, but because the father, Raymond Ames, said he didn't like him or want him around the toddler. The girl lived with Melissa Jenkins until Ames got custody last year.

Family and neighbors say Ehrlick Jr. has given at least two separate explanations about the night Robert disappeared.

Ehrlick Jr.'s father said his son accused him of taking Robert, but he denied it. A resident in the building who did not want to be identified said Ehrlick Jr. told her that Robert was in the hot tub and pool the night he went missing and that a heavy-set couple invited the child to a birthday party. Other neighbors say Robert was never near the pool that night.

Neighbors said neither Jenkins nor Ehrlick Jr. have been at the apartment since Wednesday. One neighbor and KBCI-TV said Ehrlick Jr. has been in a treatment center since being treated at Saint Alphonsus Regional Medical Center in Boise for an undisclosed reason.

Dorothy Aydelotte, Robert's aunt and sister of his father, said Charles Manwill is doing his best to deal with Robert's death.

"He's better than he was a couple days ago, but not good," Aydelotte said. "He's upset, understandably. Robert was very close with his dad."

On Wednesday, Carrillo, Jenkins' upstairs neighbor, said she trusted Jenkins and Ehrlick with her four kids and doesn't believe either of them could be involved.

"There's a little boy who's dead," she said. "There can be no common sense to that. Who could do that? It's hard for me to see that someone that I interacted with on a daily basis could do something like that. ... I'm not in the grieving stage, I'm in the shock stage."

Mindy Clark, who lives in the apartment complex, visited the makeshift memorial to Robert that has been growing for days.

"I feel kind of devastated ... . I've seen him playing," Clark said. "(Today's news is) just kind of hard to swallow. It's just hard ... . Who would hurt a child and just throw him away?"
http://www.bradenton.com/news/breaking_news/story/1621456.html

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Here's the article where it says the BF was abusing the Mom. 

Which once again leads back to the baby Aiden with the fractured skull ever being placed back with them..as well as Robert should not have been able to visit them in the summer. The judge made a huge mistake ever giving this women visitation with either Robert or Aiden.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Bearlyhere on September 03, 2009, 03:50:01 AM


Justice for Little Man!

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on September 03, 2009, 03:57:43 PM
Jenkins, Ehrlick plead not guilty
Patrick Orr - porr@idahostatesman.com
Published: 09/03/09

Melissa Jenkins and Daniel Ehrlick pleaded not guilty to charges of first-degree murder in connection with the beating death of Jenkins' 8-year-old son Robert Manwill.

The two stood silent as their attorneys entered the pleas Thursday in front of 4th District Judge Darla Williamson.

Ehrlick is accused of beating the boy to death, and Jenkins is accused of covering up the crime and lying to police about what happened.

The next hearing in the case is set for Nov. 5, when a trial date likely will be set.

Jenkins and Ehrlick were indicted and charged with first-degree murder by an Ada County grand jury Aug. 18.

The grand jury found that 8-year-old Robert Manwill was beaten by Ehrlick for weeks in a pattern of "escalating physical violence" that finally climaxed in his death, according to court records.

Ada County Coroner Erwin Sonnenberg said the boy died from blunt force trauma "on or about" the July 24 — the night he was reported missing. That report triggered a community-wide search for Robert Manwill that ended about two weeks later when his body was found in the New York Canal near Kuna.

Ehrlicks’s violence against the boy started as early as June, according to the grand jury indictment, which also says Jenkins "did actively and repeatedly hide (Robert) from government authorities" and kept "other persons from observing the ongoing harm" Ehrlick was doing to the boy.

The grand jury said Ehrlick repeatedly abused Robert and eventually killed the boy by the "intentional application of torture ... by inflicting extreme or prolonged pain with the intent to cause suffering, to execute vengeance, or to satisfy some sadistic inclination, by inflicting repeated acts of blunt force trauma to the abdomen and/or head of Robert Manwill."

The grand jury also found that Jenkins continued to leave Robert with Ehrlick despite the knowledge that he was "inflicting repeated acts of physical violence" on the boy, and that Jenkins lied to police about Robert's whereabouts after she knew he was dead.

Ada County prosecutors have not yet decided whether they will seek the death penalty against Jenkins and/or Ehrlick.

They have a little more than a month left to make that decision.

Ada County Prosecutor Greg Bower said last month much of the decision will depend on what kind of mitigating evidence defense attorneys provide to prosecutors as they swap discovery on the case.

The entry of plea hearings for Jenkins and Ehrlick were originally set Tuesday but were later rescheduled when 4th District Judge Deborah Bail, who was originally given the case, disqualified herself in late August.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/886965.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on September 03, 2009, 03:59:44 PM
Not guilty plea for Manwill murder suspects

Story Updated: Sep 3, 2009 at 1:48 PM MDT
By KBCI Web Staff

BOISE - An Ada County judge has issued a not guilty plea for the two suspects charged with killing 8-year-old Robert Manwill.

On Thursday, Melissa Jenkins and Daniel Ehrlick stood silent in Ada County court Thursday afternoon, which prompted the judge to issue the plea.

Jenkins and Ehrlick are both charged with first degree murder of Manwill, who's disappearance and killing drew national media attention.
http://www.2news.tv/news/local/56987032.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on September 03, 2009, 05:42:22 PM
Thank you for the updates Pink angel   ::MonkeyAngel::

http://www.localnews8.com/Global/story.asp?S=11042572&nav=menu554_2

Couple refuse to plea in boy's death

Associated Press - September 3, 2009 3:54 PM ET

BOISE, Idaho (AP) - The mother of an 8-year-old boy found dead in an Idaho canal and her live-in boyfriend refused to enter pleas to first-degree murder charges during an arraignment Thursday.

Thirty-year-old Melissa Jenkins and her boyfriend, 36-year-old Daniel Ehrlick Jr., were arrested last month in the death of her son, Robert Manwill.

Fourth District Judge Darla Williamson entered not guilty pleas on their behalf.

An Ada County grand jury indictment says the boy was tortured, beaten repeatedly and ultimately killed by Ehrlick Jr.

The indictment accuses Jenkins of hiding her son's injuries from government officials who could have intervened, as well as aiding and abetting her boyfriend in the death.

The couple also face charges that they failed to report the boy's death


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on September 03, 2009, 05:47:19 PM
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Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on September 03, 2009, 05:53:37 PM
http://www.idahostatesman.com/robertmanwill/story/886965.html

Melissa Jenkins and Daniel Ehrlick pleaded not guilty Thursday to charges of first-degree murder in connection with the beating death of Jenkins' 8-year-old son Robert Manwill in July.

The two, both charged with first degree murder, stood silent during their entry of plea hearing Thursday in front of 4th District Judge Darla Williamson so not guilty pleas were entered for them.

Ehrlick is accused of beating the boy to death, and Jenkins is accused of covering up the crime and lying to police about what happened.

Ehrlick and Jenkins, who appeared separately in front of Williamson Thursday, both waived their speedy trial rights so a jury trial on the case won't likely happen until next summer at the earliest.

The next hearing in the case is set for Nov. 5, when a trial date likely will be set. Defense attorneys say they need to know whether or not Ada County prosecutors plan to seek the death penalty against Ehrlick or Jenkins before they can schedule a trial.

Prosecutors have until the middle of October to make that decision.

Rob Chastain, Jenkins' attorney, told Williamson he did not yet know if he planned to file a motion to sever the cases since he had not yet received any discovery from prosecutors as of Thursday.

Both Ehrlick and Jenkins are being held in the Ada County Jail and appeared in court Thursday shackled and dressed in jail uniforms.

Both answered Williamson's questions with simple "yes" and "no" answers, as family members and friends of both suspects and Robert Manwill watched from the courtroom.

Ehrlick initially said he did not understand his speedy trial rights but later said he did after talking to public defender Gus Cahill.

Family members left the courtroom without comment Thursday.

Jenkins and Ehrlick were indicted and charged with first-degree murder by an Ada County grand jury Aug. 18.

The grand jury found that 8-year-old Robert Manwill was beaten by Ehrlick for weeks in a pattern of "escalating physical violence" that finally climaxed in his death, according to court records.

Ada County Coroner Erwin Sonnenberg said the boy died from blunt force trauma "on or about" the July 24 — the night he was reported missing. That report triggered a community-wide search for Robert Manwill that ended about two weeks later when his body was found in the New York Canal near Kuna.

Ehrlicks’s violence against the boy started as early as June, according to the grand jury indictment, which also says Jenkins "did actively and repeatedly hide (Robert) from government authorities" and kept "other persons from observing the ongoing harm" Ehrlick was doing to the boy.

The grand jury said Ehrlick repeatedly abused Robert and eventually killed the boy by the "intentional application of torture ... by inflicting extreme or prolonged pain with the intent to cause suffering, to execute vengeance, or to satisfy some sadistic inclination, by inflicting repeated acts of blunt force trauma to the abdomen and/or head of Robert Manwill."

The grand jury also found that Jenkins continued to leave Robert with Ehrlick despite the knowledge that he was "inflicting repeated acts of physical violence" on the boy, and that Jenkins lied to police about Robert's whereabouts after she knew he was dead.

Ada County prosecutors have not yet decided whether they will seek the death penalty against Jenkins and/or Ehrlick.

They have a little more than a month left to make that decision.

Ada County Prosecutor Greg Bower said last month much of the decision will depend on what kind of mitigating evidence defense attorneys provide to prosecutors as they swap discovery on the case.

The entry of plea hearings for Jenkins and Ehrlick were originally set Tuesday but were later rescheduled when 4th District Judge Deborah Bail, who was originally given the case, disqualified herself in late August.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Bearlyhere on September 05, 2009, 05:48:13 AM
Jenkins, Ehrlick plead not guilty
Patrick Orr - porr@idahostatesman.com
Published: 09/03/09

Melissa Jenkins and Daniel Ehrlick pleaded not guilty to charges of first-degree murder in connection with the beating death of Jenkins' 8-year-old son Robert Manwill.

The two stood silent as their attorneys entered the pleas Thursday in front of 4th District Judge Darla Williamson.

Ehrlick is accused of beating the boy to death, and Jenkins is accused of covering up the crime and lying to police about what happened.

The next hearing in the case is set for Nov. 5, when a trial date likely will be set.

Jenkins and Ehrlick were indicted and charged with first-degree murder by an Ada County grand jury Aug. 18.

The grand jury found that 8-year-old Robert Manwill was beaten by Ehrlick for weeks in a pattern of "escalating physical violence" that finally climaxed in his death, according to court records.

Ada County Coroner Erwin Sonnenberg said the boy died from blunt force trauma "on or about" the July 24 — the night he was reported missing. That report triggered a community-wide search for Robert Manwill that ended about two weeks later when his body was found in the New York Canal near Kuna.

Ehrlicks’s violence against the boy started as early as June, according to the grand jury indictment, which also says Jenkins "did actively and repeatedly hide (Robert) from government authorities" and kept "other persons from observing the ongoing harm" Ehrlick was doing to the boy.

The grand jury said Ehrlick repeatedly abused Robert and eventually killed the boy by the "intentional application of torture ... by inflicting extreme or prolonged pain with the intent to cause suffering, to execute vengeance, or to satisfy some sadistic inclination, by inflicting repeated acts of blunt force trauma to the abdomen and/or head of Robert Manwill."

The grand jury also found that Jenkins continued to leave Robert with Ehrlick despite the knowledge that he was "inflicting repeated acts of physical violence" on the boy, and that Jenkins lied to police about Robert's whereabouts after she knew he was dead.

Ada County prosecutors have not yet decided whether they will seek the death penalty against Jenkins and/or Ehrlick.

They have a little more than a month left to make that decision.

Ada County Prosecutor Greg Bower said last month much of the decision will depend on what kind of mitigating evidence defense attorneys provide to prosecutors as they swap discovery on the case.

The entry of plea hearings for Jenkins and Ehrlick were originally set Tuesday but were later rescheduled when 4th District Judge Deborah Bail, who was originally given the case, disqualified herself in late August.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/886965.html

 :smt010 :smt010 :smt010 :smt010



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 16, 2009, 03:18:14 PM
I am glad to hear that Judge Deborah Bail dismissed herself from this case.  She is the judge with the poor judgement that allowed Melissa to have Aiden back and Robert for a few weeks in the summer.  She is the judge who felt that $75 was enough payment for a baby's cracked skull.  The women should should be removed from office..poor, poor judgement..knowing that the BF  was an abuser, and part of the reason why Charles Manwill had custody of Robert through the school year.   I am still steamed about the injustice in this case.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on September 18, 2009, 05:46:51 PM

(http://i32.tinypic.com/2rw4xz6.jpg)

Lighting a candle for Robert and saying a prayer for his family that is grieving him being gone.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m

You have been in my thoughts on a daily basis little dude.


Bringing forward.
Please light a candle for Robert.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Sister on September 19, 2009, 11:02:24 AM
I am glad to hear that Judge Deborah Bail dismissed herself from this case.  She is the judge with the poor judgement that allowed Melissa to have Aiden back and Robert for a few weeks in the summer.  She is the judge who felt that $75 was enough payment for a baby's cracked skull.  The women should should be removed from office..poor, poor judgement..knowing that the BF  was an abuser, and part of the reason why Charles Manwill had custody of Robert through the school year.   I am still steamed about the injustice in this case.

Gypsydd, I totally agree.  Maybe I'm naive, but I think the judges should at least come under review when something like this happens.  She should be accountable for the basis of her decision, including but not limited to the $75 fine for cracking the baby's skull.  If I could find where to write to complain, I would do it.  This is so insane!
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Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: MuffyBee on September 19, 2009, 11:13:27 AM


Justice for Little Man!

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::



Bumpin' this up...


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cherjers on September 20, 2009, 12:02:38 PM
I am glad to hear that Judge Deborah Bail dismissed herself from this case.  She is the judge with the poor judgement that allowed Melissa to have Aiden back and Robert for a few weeks in the summer.  She is the judge who felt that $75 was enough payment for a baby's cracked skull.  The women should should be removed from office..poor, poor judgement..knowing that the BF  was an abuser, and part of the reason why Charles Manwill had custody of Robert through the school year.   I am still steamed about the injustice in this case.
  You are so right-it is a disgrace that she is still on the bench-she should hang her head in shame-dont know how she sleeps at night


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: joesamas mama on September 21, 2009, 02:56:44 PM
 ::MonkeyAngel:: I still remember you Little Man. Monkey Hugs and love from JSM  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 24, 2009, 08:35:05 AM
Manwill search warrant reveals little

A second search warrant that led to the arrests of the boy's mother and her boyfriend remains sealed.

Published: 09/24/09
Despite spending hours over two days searching the backyard of Evan Wallis' south Ada County home for evidence of then-missing Robert Manwill, detectives left with fewer than a dozen pieces of evidence, according to search warrant documents released this week.

But Wallis' home was just one of two residences police searched in the 10-day search that drew more than 2,300 volunteers and national attention. The other was the Oak Park Village apartment shared by Robert's mother, Melissa Jenkins, and her boyfriend, Daniel Ehrlick Jr. - both charged with first-degree murder after the boy's body was found Aug. 3 in the New York Canal in southern Ada County.

What police found at Jenkins' South Boise apartment on July 30 - and even what evidence allowed them to get the search warrant in the first place - remains a mystery.

Fourth District Magistrate John Hawley sealed those search warrant materials at the request of county prosecutors in July. This week, he rejected a request from the Idaho Statesman to unseal the documents.

The evidence used to charge Ehrlick and Jenkins with first-degree murder has not been publicly disclosed either, because prosecutors presented it in a secret grand jury hearing.

Hawley determined that the search warrant documents - public records routinely obtained by the Statesman and other media outlets in high-profile criminal cases - should be sealed in this case because Jenkins and Ehrlick's "Sixth Amendment right to a fair trial is a compelling interest that outweighs the public's First Amendment right of access to the documents."

Hawley said the information used by police to get the search warrant contains "numerous hearsay statements that would not be admissible at trial, and many of the statements are both accusatory and inflammatory" - and could make it hard to find an impartial jury for either defendant.

Hawley dismissed the Statesman's argument that such documents have been publicly disclosed in similar high-profile cases, like the 2004 Azad Abdullah first-degree murder case, where a jury that eventually sentenced Abdullah to death was selected without a problem.

Hawley did unseal the search warrant materials for Wallis' Southland Avenue home, saying there was "nothing in those documents that creates a substantial risk for prejudice to (Ehrlick and Jenkins)."

Wallis, who has insisted he had no knowledge of what happened and has not been charged in the case, is a friend of the Ehrlick family, and on July 31 and Aug. 1 he granted police access to his home in the 6600 block of Southdale Avenue, near Five Mile Road.

Police became interested in his home after he reported that his SUV had been stolen and mysteriously returned around the time Rovert was reported missing.

A bloodhound showed interest in the house - which surprised the dog's handler, who was looking for traces of Robert in the SUV. A search-and-rescue dog trained to find human remains made a "passive alert" - detecting the possibility of a scent of human remains - at parts of the backyard. But no remains were found.

Police eventually took three latex gloves, two empty water bottles and two pairs of work gloves from Wallis' backyard - as well as a pair of shorts from inside the home. Search warrant documents don't say whether police suspect those items either belonged to or came into contact with Robert.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/102/story/910830.html



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on October 04, 2009, 12:15:37 PM

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Lighting a candle for Robert and saying a prayer for his family that is grieving him being gone.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m

You have been in my thoughts on a daily basis little dude.


Bumping.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on October 11, 2009, 01:50:55 PM
In Loving Memory Of Robert Manwill


http://www.youtube.com/v/XxwWdQeanXk&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b&border=1


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: burkieandemme on October 11, 2009, 07:45:55 PM
Thank you CeCe for posting that wonderful tribute to Robert! 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Nut44x4 on October 16, 2009, 09:07:43 PM
Prosecutors: No Death Penalty in Boise Boy's Murder Case  :smt097 :smt091 :smt097

Posted: Oct 16, 2009 08:09 PM EDT

BOISE, Idaho (AP) - Ada County prosecutors have decided not to seek the death penalty in their case against a Boise couple accused of murdering an 8-year-old boy and covering up the crime.

Daniel Ehrlick is accused of beating young Robert Manwill to death in July. Manwill's mother, Melissa Jenkins, is accused of covering up the crime and lying to police about what happened.

Ada County prosecutors announced Friday they would not seek the death penalty against Jenkins and Ehrlick, who are both charged with first-degree murder, the Idaho Statesman reported.

Thousands of Boise residents helped to search Manwill's Boise neighborhood after the child was reported missing. His body was found Aug. 3 in an irrigation canal near the small town of Kuna.
http://www.localnews8.com/Global/story.asp?S=11330155#


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: burkieandemme on October 19, 2009, 03:33:10 PM
No death penalty?  That is just wrong! IMO this case deserves the death penalty.  For both egg donor and her man.  She has a history of harming her children; and he for some reason can not be around little girls. 

What a lowlife pair!!!!


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Ariana on October 19, 2009, 11:33:40 PM
I have to agree.  I also feel that the death penalty is the ultimate torture for these people.  The restricted lifestyle (more so than those not on death row), the fact that most do not usually want to die, the agonizing over the fact that they are going to die and soon, when the day comes and no clemency the fear they face knowing they are going to meet their maker.  Too bad they won't fry them, they so deserve it.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: burkieandemme on October 20, 2009, 02:54:59 PM
Sorry for my rant (again!).  Now that it has been 24 hours, I feel I can compose a coherent post.   

Although I am normally one who is against the death penalty, I feel in this case it is deserved. I feel whenever someone harms a child and throws them away like trash, they do not deserve LWOP.   I feel when someone has that little respect for life, they do not deserve respect for their own.   

With that said, I have a bad feeling they will go with the "I was drunk" or "I was high" defense.  The defense will claim if they were sober, they would never have harmed Robert...The drugs/alcohol made them do it.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on October 30, 2009, 11:01:49 AM
http://www.kivitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=11410990

Treasure Valley Keeps Kids Safe For Halloween

Posted: Oct 29, 2009 08:19 PM

Updated: Oct 29, 2009 08:19 PM


Local communities work to turn an unspeakable tragedy into a chance to make the Treasure Valley a safer place.

Robert Manwill's tragic death captured the hearts of the Treasure Valley and this Halloween organizers hope to use his story to rally communities.

The United Way, the YMCA, the Idaho Children's Trust Fund, and other children's organizations have teamed up in memory of Robert Manwill.


They say they want to strengthen families and help protect children.

When 8-year old Robert Manwill went missing over the summer thousands of people searched day and night hoping to find him safe.

"If we can have this much support and find one little boy, couldn't we have this much support in trying to protect all children and so that's what really started the movement," said the United Way Director of Education LeAnn Simmons.

The movement is called "Our Kids: Our Business."

They're kicking off their first project on Halloween motivating parents to get to know their neighbors.

"Halloween we think as a fun time for kids and for families. The more we do things as a family the more we do things together as a neighborhood, I think the stronger our communities are," said Simmons.

Parents say they're taking extra precautions this Halloween, especially after what happened to Robert Manwill.

"I don't let my kids go by the door by themselves that just makes me very, very nervous. I just make sure I go to the doors with them and I go to houses that have their lights on and that are decorated," said a Treasure Valley mother.

Organizers are asking parents to participate by posting a "Say Hello on Halloween" poster on their doors.

You can download it for free. Just head to our homepage for news at www.kivitv.com and click on news links.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on October 30, 2009, 11:03:18 AM
http://www.ktvb.com/news/Elementary-school-celebrates-life-of-Robert-Manwill1-67212082.html

 Elementary school celebrates life of Robert Manwill

by Kelsey Jacobson
Idaho's NewsChannel 7

Posted on October 29, 2009 at 9:30 AM

Updated yesterday at 5:22 PM

NEW PLYMOUTH - A celebration was held Thursday to honor the life of young Robert Manwill.
The eight-year-old was found dead in a canal back in August.
New Plymouth Elementary School dedicated a new swing to Robert and released balloons in his honor.
The public is welcome to attend.
Visitors are encouraged to wear green, which was Robert's favorite color.
Manwill's mother and mother's boyfriend are charged with his murder.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on October 30, 2009, 11:07:46 AM
http://www.idahostatesman.com/robertmanwill/story/953350.html

Swing to be dedicated to Robert Manwill
Staff in New Plymouth pledge to work even harder to support students


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Katherine Jones / Idaho Statesma
Students and staff at New Plymouth Elementary School are celebrating the life and memory of Robert Manwill with the dedication of a green swing in front of the school Thursday — a swing already in use by students. Robert’s death has affected the entire school and staff, who adopted a theme this year of “a caring heart.”


A wisp of green ribbon attached to the lanyard that holds Carrie Aguas' jumble of keys isn't just frilly decoration.

The New Plymouth Elementary School principal says it's a constant reminder of the promises she made to herself in the wake of the death of Robert Manwill, an 8-year-old who would have started third grade at her school this fall.

"I want to spend more time listening," said Aguas, who has kept the ribbon since the day in July when she joined more than 2,000 people in Boise searching for the boy.

Staff and students at New Plymouth Elementary School have invited the public to the school to help remember at 10:15 a.m. Thursday, when they will dedicate a new swinging bench on the front lawn to Robert. A plaque at the top of the large green swing has the boy's photo, and the inscription reads, "Forever in Our Hearts."

The swing "is a pretty neat idea," said Ron Rouse, who watched his daughter Taci test the swing after school Wednesday. "It makes people realize how vulnerable kids are. You don't really think about something happening to somebody from your community. Then it happens."

Six-year-old Taci Rouse understands why the swing is there. "It's because Robert died," said Taci, who didn't know the boy.

New Plymouth is a small town about 45 minutes northwest of Boise. The elementary school has 430 students from preschool to fifth grade.

"None of us have gotten to the point where we can talk about him without crying," said Tammy Arnzen, a secretary at the school. "This is our little way of keeping a part of him."

The summer's events were traumatic for the staff and students.

"The little kids don't understand the finality of it all," Arnzen said.

Robert, who lived with his dad in New Plymouth, was reported missing from his mother's apartment in Boise on July 24. His body was found in a canal south of Boise on Aug. 3.

Robert's mother, Melissa Jenkins, and her boyfriend, Daniel Ehrlick, were indicted on charges of first-degree murder on Aug. 18. They have pleaded not guilty.

When the horrific details about Robert's death were released, friends warned Aguas and the boy's second-grade teacher, Christy Morales, not to read the newspaper articles or watch TV. So they didn't. They say they do not want to know; it's simply too painful.

School officials notified parents about Robert's death over the summer and asked them to talk to their own children about it. Aguas said staff were instructed to listen to students who wanted to talk about Robert at school, then ask them to discuss it with their parents.

Morales said she had no idea what to expect from the kids.

"I was worried I was going to have to address the fact that, sometimes, even your mother's not safe," she said, referring to the murder charge against Robert's mom.

But until the flier went out about Thursday's event, Morales had fielded very few questions or comments from students. Most have offered simple condolences.

"I'll be standing in the hallway, and one will walk by and say, 'I'm really sorry about Robert,' " she said.

Morales said she heard two or three students talking about the Robert Manwill Day flier get into an argument about who killed the boy.

"I said, 'We're not going to go there,'" Morales recalled Tuesday. "This is not the time or place."

School officials don't believe there's anything they could have done to save Robert from his terrible fate. During the school year, when he visited his mother and lived with his father, school officials saw no physical signs of abuse.

"I'm really good at reading kids, and I can make a good connection with kids when I notice things aren't quite right," Morales said. "The only thing I had (noticed) with him was that I felt like he was a very serious kid."

Morales said that wouldn't be unusual for a child whose parents are divorced and experiencing related difficulties. Robert moved from Boise to New Plymouth to live with his dad midway through first grade, when his mother had complications from a pregnancy.

"He came with the weight of two families on his shoulders," Morales said. "I never saw anything that he wasn't loved by his present family."

She describes him as a sweet, quiet and gentle boy who wore his feelings on his sleeve and loved to give hugs. When frustrated or upset, he would cry and put his head on his desk, she said.

In the wake of Robert's death, the staff at New Plymouth want to be sure students feel safe and supported at school, Aguas said. The theme at the school for the 2009-10 school year is "a caring heart."

"We've always had a caring staff. ... It's paying a little more attention to everything a child says," Aguas said.

Morales and Arnzen say their grief about Robert's death has been punctuated with anger.

"It's never going to make sense, no matter what comes out (in court)," said Morales, a mother of two boys.

Aguas recently misplaced her lanyard and keys. She was frantic - not because she'd have to re-key all the doors at the school - but because she feared she'd lost Robert's ribbon.

"This ribbon is going to last the rest of my career," Aguas said.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on October 30, 2009, 11:20:54 AM
Lighting a candle for Robert:

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/prayinghands.jpg)


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Nut44x4 on November 05, 2009, 05:45:23 PM
Murder suspects wants change of venue

http://www.2news.tv/news/69314697.html
Story Updated: Nov 5, 2009 at 3:01 PM MST
BOISE - Lawyers for Melissa Jenkins and Daniel Ehrlick said Thursday that they plan to file motion to change venues.   :roll:

The Treasure Valley couple is charged with first degree murder in the death of 8-year-old Robert Manwill, whose disappearance and killing drew national media attention. The boy was reported missing July 24, prompting an intense community-wide search.

His body was found in the New York Canal near Kuna about two weeks later.

An Ada County grand jury indictment says the boy was tortured, beaten repeatedly and ultimately killed by Ehrlick.

It was also revealed in court Thursday that the defense is asking that the case be separated between the two suspects.

A hearing will be held Dec. 10 to go over the change of venue motion.

In October, Greg Bower, Ada County prosecutor, announced that the prosecution would not seek the death penalty against Jenkins and Ehrlick.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on November 29, 2009, 04:09:30 PM
::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::

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Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Fanny Mae on November 29, 2009, 06:52:06 PM
Lighting a candle for Robert:

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/prayinghands.jpg)

It makes me very sad to go to his candles and see them unlit. I go there almost every night and say a prayer, and almost every time the candle will not light. Does anyone else have this problem? I don't think he is that forgotten. I just tried again and I couldn't get one to light. However, I did get one lit yesterday. Bless you Robert.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on December 13, 2009, 10:19:48 AM
http://www.ktvb.com/news/Community-comes-out-in-force-to-support-KTVB-Cares-Day-79139872.html

Community comes out in force to support KTVB Cares Day

by Ysabel Bilbao
Idaho's NewsChannel 7

Posted on December 12, 2009 at 5:30 PM

Updated yesterday at 10:25 PM

It was a day for the record books.

You, our KTVB viewers, showed up in Boise, Nampa and Twin Falls to help with KTVB Cares Day.

Your generous donations raised tens of thousands of dollars and will help feed tens of thousands of people through the Salvation
Army, the Idaho Food Bank and the Boise Rescue Missions.

People came in one after one, patiently waiting their turn to drop off bag after bag of food to help feed the hungry.

The donations came in all forms, whether by the carload or a few filled bags.

It was a day for the public to help those in need.

"There is just so much need out there and I just want people to be blessed as I have been blessed," said Linda Willy, who donated money.

In some cases, it was the chance to give back after being on receiving end before.

"We just wanted to donate some food this year, for the people on the other side,” said John Wallace, who donated. “I and Angie's been on their side before and we know what it's like being on the other side of the table, and we are just such a blessing to share that with the other people that need help."

Social barriers and classes aside, it was not a matter of who could give what, but rather that everyone turned out and gave what they could. Like Sam Browning, who gave his allowance.

"I just wanted to help the homeless and I am sure they need the money more than I do," Browning said.

Some people knew exactly where the food they were donating would go. “For hungry tummies, for hungry tummies," said one little girl who brought food in.

The turnout last year was so successful that this year the event had double the time and triple the locations.  From Nampa - to Boise - and as far away as Twin Falls - thousands showed up - each with their own reasons why.

"I decided that my nieces and nephews aren't going to get their Christmas presents this year,” said Tammy Hook, who donated. “I am unemployed as well, but I went into my savings account and got a little bit of money and this is a really good cause.”

For students from Van Buren Elementary, it was a lesson in giving. They raised $96 to donate and considered it “awesome.”

For two local families, it was a time to give back.

Trish Burrell said the community took its time to look for her murdered nephew, Robert Manwill, and she said now it is time to pay it forward.

"We have had quite a bit of community support this year and we are trying to help out this Christmas year, because of everyone that helped us through the summer and everything that we have gone through,” Burrell said. “So we figured that we would bring food down here today and also the Toys for Tots that we’re going to try to do for Robert."


The same sentiment was felt by the family of Shawn Heckathorn, the Caldwell teen killed in a car accident nearly three months ago.
"We kind of figured that this is something Shawn would have done,” said Connie Heckathorn. “Christmas was his favorite time of year, and he didn't like anybody to go without. So whatever he had, he would give. So this is our way of saying to the community, ‘Shawn is giving back to you guys.’"

In the end, it was kind hearts that made more than 20 tons of food possible for the three charities and ten of thousands of dollars raised.

It was a turnout that shocked nearly everyone involved as a line that started early in the morning continued to file in for hours after.

Many of you have called the KTVB newsroom to find out if you can still donate. You can find a link to do so on our Web site.

You can also take donations and contributions to The Salvation Army, The Idaho Food Bank and any of the Boise Rescue Missions.

And thank you again to all who donated this morning.

In addition to all of your donations, Tyson also donated to our KTVB Cares Day.

They donated thousands of pounds of Cornish Game Hens.

When asked how much the 30,000 pounds amounted to, Larry Roberts of Tyson had the answer.

“Divide it by 14 ounces, and you got it,” Roberts said. “A lot."

Volunteers emptied the hens from one truck and loaded them into three trucks for local charities.

The Boise Rescue Mission, The Idaho Food Bank and The Salvation Army each received 10,000 pounds to put to good use.

(video at link)


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on December 13, 2009, 10:23:32 AM
http://www.fox12idaho.com/Global/story.asp?S=11637609


Protect Idaho Kids
Posted: Dec 7, 2009 09:03 PM


Boise, Idaho -- Protect Idaho Kids is a new Boise-based organization, with an emphasis on doing just that.

Protect Idaho Kids is bringing a lot of other groups forward to help out with this overwhelming project. It's all about making Idaho the safest state in the nation for kids.

The idea came about in part because of the recent child abuse case involving 8-year-old Robert Manwill. You may remember Manwill went missing in July.

People from all over volunteered to help find the boy, only to learn a couple weeks later that he was dead and his mom and her boyfriend were likely responsible. It was a crime that brought nation-wide focus to the issue of child abuse and, according to Bruce Wingate, it's an issue that needs a lot more attention.

"Child abuse. Once every four hours, there's a child abused right here in Boise. And we're going to tackle those issues. Teen suicide is one that's a very sensitive issue, but we're going to take these issues and tell people, first of all what the issue is, the extent of the issue. Then we're going to indicate to everybody that everybody needs to help to bring down and solve these problems," said Wingate, with Protect Idaho Kids.

To help get the message out, Olympic gold medalist Kristin Armstrong has even joined on as the spokesperson for Protect Idaho Kids.

The organization also has a website called www.ProtectIdahoKids.info, where people find all kinds of resources to help children who may be stuck in abusive situations


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on December 13, 2009, 10:25:52 AM
http://www.fox12idaho.com/Global/story.asp?S=11645815

Protect Idaho Kids -- Dial 211

Posted: Dec 9, 2009 12:56 AM


Boise, Idaho -- Protecting Idaho kids.

It's of course the goal of a number of organizations across the state.

Now that focus is spreading to us at Fox 12 as we highlight the need for a new charity called Protect Idaho Kids.

The idea was born in part from the search for 8-year-old Robert Manwill, which took place this summer.

Sadly the boy's body was found a couple weeks later in a canal, but it brought up the need for organizations dealing with child abuse to find a way to get their message out. One of those is the United Way and the Dial 211 program.

Founder of Protect Idaho Kids, which is a 501C3, Bruce Wingate says Dial 211 is an invaluable resource.

"'I've been doing this child protection for quite a few years now and most of the people don't know what the 211 number is, but it does immediately connect you with people who know what to do if you suspect a child is being abused, or if a child is being abused, they can call that number 211 and get assistance," said Wingate.

Often it's that assistance that's critical in the welfare of a child, but organizations can't accomplish the work they do, without support from the community.

And now, that's where Protect Idaho Kids comes into play -- an organization that through it's efforts will help raise money to keep these resources going, while helping to reduce the instances of child abuse.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: seahorse on December 18, 2009, 01:15:15 PM
Robert Manwill will not be here for Christmas, Somer won't be here for Christmas, they weren't mean't to die.  I will light a candle on Christmas Eve for them. My wish is that the Good Lord will them extra wishes, hoping that there will be a Santa Clause for them in Heaven. The Lord loved children.

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on December 30, 2009, 04:27:29 PM
http://www.bloggernews.net/123352

Posted on December 24th, 2009

Sarah will be another name added to my list of children to pray for. Please join me as I pray for them. My list includes Caylee Anthony (found dead), Adji Desir (remains missing), Haleigh Cummings (remains missing), Somer Thompson (found dead), Elizabeth Olten (found dead) , Masaraha Ross (remains missing along with her mother Ronkeya Holmes), Alex Mercado (drowned) Rebecca Marie Allen (found alive), Sandra Cantu (found dead), Anthony Holland (found alive), Shaniya Davis (found dead), Hassani Campbell (remains missing), Giovanni Gonzalez (reported dead), Nevaeh Buchanan ( found dead) and Shannon Dedrick (found alive), Angel Miguel Perez (found safe) Luis Martinez (found dead) Luke Finch (found alive), Kayvon Lewis (fighting for his life), Andrue Jankwitz and Nathaneal Hale (found safe), Robert Manwill (killed), Conner Conley (killed), Marc Anthony Bookal (missing), and Sarah Haley Foxwell (missing).

Jan Barrett

snipped.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on December 30, 2009, 04:33:17 PM
http://www.idahostatesman.com/localnews/story/1022601.html

After Robert Manwill: Idaho puts the family first, but what happens when it breaks down?
 - Idaho Statesman
Published: 12/28/09


In the weeks following Robert Manwill’s disappearance and death, the community asked what it would take to prevent another child from dying as he did. In this three-day series, the Statesman looks at the challenges — and opportunities — that lie ahead.


If there's one thing everyone agrees on, it's that the family has a central role in a child's well-being.

The long-held belief is supported by liberals and conservatives alike, and has been the basis for reforms like The Adoption Assistance and Child Welfare Reform Act of 1980, which emphasized keeping families intact whenever possible.

"First and foremost children belong with their parents. We provide services and supports that are designed to increase the extent that children are safe," said Steve Sparks, regional program manager in the Division of Family and Community Services for the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare.

"This is not only recognized as best practice, but is a federal requirement."

Conservative state Rep. Steven Thayn, R-Emmett, sees families - not the government, churches nor private charitable organizations - as the ultimate providers of social services.

"That includes meals, day care, housing, education, comfort, clothing and medical care," Thayn said.

But how do you strengthen Idaho families so the children in them are safe and healthy? And when do you make the call that the children are better off outside the home?

Roger Sherman, director of the Idaho Trust Fund for Children and a former lobbyist for progressive causes, said Idaho has been slow to adopt family programs that have been proven to work.

Some communities have "crisis nurseries," or places where parents can find support and relief, and get some time away from their kids to keep tensions from escalating.

The Treasure Valley doesn't have such a place.

"We're also one of a few states in the country without any statewide programs for home visitation," Sherman said.

One of the most studied and successful programs for preventing child abuse, he said, is the Nurse-Family Partnership model that connects first-time, low-income mothers with nurses who visit before a baby is born, and continue to visit until the baby turns 2.

"That program is spendy, but there are many other curricula out there that also focus on helping parents help their kids," Sherman said.

Locally, programs like Families First and Parents as Teachers provide some of that kind of support, but don't have the resources to reach all the families that could benefit.

Families with religious affiliation may also have some built-in networks and support.

Craig Rasmussen, Idaho area director of public affairs for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, said that his church offers parenting classes for young married people and programs for children beginning at age 3.

Also built into LDS life are weekly "family home evenings," when families get together to pray, talk, tell stories and study.

Sparks believes in strengthening families through a mix of formal and informal programs, "everything from parenting support to recreational opportunities," he said.

"I'm not one who believes it's all up to the public sector. Informal supports are often very strong."

WHEN A CHILD LEAVES A PARENT'S HOME

Despite the core belief that children belong with their families, it's sometimes impossible.

But how do kids fare in state custody? It's a mix.

The Idaho Department of Health and Welfare is doing well when it comes to safety - including the timeliness of investigations and keeping kids safe from abuse and neglect when they're in foster care, according to the department's 2008 self review.

Other areas of strength include "well-being" of kids in care, specifically educational needs and physical and mental health.

But the same assessment says improvements are needed. The department is falling short when it comes to "permanency."

Problems include reuniting families prematurely - before issues like substance abuse have been resolved - moving kids in foster care around too much and failing to find permanent living arrangements for older kids.

Case workers, the report says, are also contending with large caseloads and long travel distances, which keeps them from visiting with children and families as often as they should. The staff turnover outpaces most of Idaho's other large agencies.

And the challenges have gotten harder in recent years. Between 2000 and 2005, Idaho's population grew at twice the national rate. That growth, plus the spread of methamphetamine abuse, meant an added burden for social services.

THE FOSTER FIT

Finding good foster homes continues to be a challenge.

Enough foster homes are usually available in a pinch - but they're not always available in a kid's home neighborhood, said Sparks, of Health and Welfare.

The department's self-assessment also noted the difficulty in finding culturally diverse foster homes for children of Latino and Native American descent.

"Having to leave your school, your church, other things that are familiar, makes a traumatic situation more so," Sparks said.

Health and Welfare is actively recruiting families and parents in all neighborhoods with the specific intention of keeping kids close to home.

Need is especially great in West Boise, Garden City and the Collister area - and for the temporary care of sibling groups and adolescents.

"The group I pity are teenagers in foster care," said Andrew Ellis, Ada County deputy prosecutor.

Teenagers who have spent years in neglectful and abusive homes with their birth parents often manifest troubling behaviors: aggressive and confrontational behavior, sexual "acting out," vandalism and theft from the foster homes, Ellis said.

"It takes a lot of courage for foster families, particularly those with biological children of their own, to open their homes to foster children who could, quite frankly, pose a safety risk. So, it's a conundrum."

But again, in keeping with that spirit that brought 2,300 of young Robert Manwill's "neighbors" out to look for him in July, lots of families take that challenge.

Greg and Kelly Collett, who live near Marsing and have 10 kids who range in age from 6 months to 14 years, spent five years as foster parents.

Their children are a mix, some adopted from the foster program, some through traditional adoption, some biological.

"The desire to help children isn't all that uncommon, but people might not realize how much taking in a child can change your life," Kelly Collett said.

"If you're already happy with your life, it might be more than you counted on. In our case, we wanted a large family to make us complete."

Life for the Collett kids, so many of whom started life on an uncertain road, seems pretty complete these days.

Kelly Collett has a degree in secondary education and homeschools them all.

On the day before Christmas Eve, the family was making caramels. The kids were learning to milk one of the family cows and were preparing to be part of a live community nativity scene.

In the 1990s, while the Colletts were still fostering, they often took in older children, sometimes runaways or others who arrived after an emergency call from a social worker in the middle of the night.

Some of these children needed a couch to sleep on until morning. Others ended up living with the Colletts for months while authorities worked through their cases.

"Some kids in foster care have spent their whole lives either being a guest - or being neglected," Kelly Collett said.

Greg and Kelly Collett didn't become foster parents for the money - but foster parents in Idaho do face a financial challenge. The state is in the bottom five for compensation, according to a first-of-its-kind study in 2007 by the University of Maryland School of Social Work, the National Foster Parent Association and Children's Rights, an advocacy group.

FAMILY ADVOCACY CENTER AMONG THE BRIGHT SPOTS

Many local resources are improving the safety net for children.

The Family Advocacy Center and Education Services is a nonprofit organization that combines law enforcement agencies from surrounding communities, medical services and victim services under one roof in Downtown Boise to help victims (of all ages) of sexual or domestic violence.

FACES allows victims to get health and medical services and tell their stories to law enforcement after a traumatic event- all under one roof.

Health services have improved, too, for children who do enter the foster care system after a police officer determines they're in imminent danger.

The Legislature recently allowed judges in custody cases to order the Department of Health and Welfare to do mental health assessments and create a plan of treatment for a child if authorities are concerned about the child's mental well-being.

The St. Luke's Foster Care Clinic, housed at FACES for about five years, is a one-stop shop where kids get a head-to-toe medical checkup that includes dental care, vision and immunizations.

In the past, medical records for kids in foster care were not consolidated, and often incomplete.

Ada County Prosecutor Greg Bower said his office has had a pool of lawyers dedicated to child protection issues for 25 years - plus there are two judges assigned exclusively to child protection.

"Judges get to know parents, families, all the kids and players involved," Bower said.

As state law requires, Ada County has a "multi-disciplinary team" of case workers, law enforcement officers, medical experts and representatives from the courts.

The team meets every week to share information about child welfare cases, to try to coordinate services and make sure children don't fall through the cracks because one agency isn't communicating with another.

The Ada County team has met for 35 years - long before the law required it.

COURTS STILL FACE CHALLENGES

Jean Fisher, who prosecutes child sexual assault crimes in Ada County, said one of the biggest problems with the safety net for children is that the courts that handle child protection cases are separate and kept confidential from the courts that handle family law and criminal cases.

"Specialization becomes our Achilles' heel," Fisher said. "We get trifurcated."

In child protection cases, the only parties allowed in the courtroom, privy to all the information about a child, are those directly involved: judge, parents, lawyers, the guardian ad litem appointed to every child in the court system.

The prosecutors who become involved if criminal charges are filed are not in the room. They have to file special requests to get information about a family, which takes time.

If Ada County Juvenile Prosecutor Michael Anderson could wave a magic wand and have anything he wanted, he said he would like to be granted the legal authority to require parents of young people in his court to be tested for drugs, like the young offenders themselves are.

"It's hard to correct a kid's problem when a family comes into the court and it's clear the parents have the same problems as the kid," Anderson said.

Anderson said he's seeing a growing number of young offenders with mental illness, and isn't satisfied with the tools courts have to address them.

He also wishes for a juvenile equivalent to the mental health court available in Ada County to adult offenders that puts them into intensive, supervised rehabilitation and counseling, instead of something more punitive - and ultimately less effective.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on December 30, 2009, 04:45:25 PM
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2009/12/28/business-financial-administration-financial-impact-us-top-10-idaho_7240396.html

Economic recession top Idaho news story of 2009
By REBECCA BOONE , 12.28.09, 11:19 AM EST

_

The murder of Robert Manwill:

A mother and her boyfriend pleaded for help after an Idaho boy went missing this summer, resulting in what Boise police called the largest search for a missing person in the city's history. Thousands of residents helped look for 8-year-old Robert Manwill, whose body was found more than a week later in an irrigation canal. His mother, Melissa Jenkins and her boyfriend, Daniel Ehrlick, each are charged with first-degree murder. The trial has been scheduled for April 2010. Defense attorneys have asked a judge to hold separate trials for the two, and move the proceedings.

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Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on December 30, 2009, 04:48:21 PM
(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/MONKEY/HOLIDAYS/CHRISTMAS/angel.gif)

To light a candle for Robert:

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on January 06, 2010, 11:37:43 AM
http://www.kmvt.com/news/local/80384987.html

Local Top Stories 2009: July - September

We continue our look back at this past year as it comes to a close; in part three we give you an overview of the top stories for July, August, and September of 2009.

The end of July, thousands search for missing Boise boy Robert Manwill; the 8-year-old's body was found august 3rd in a Boise-area canal. The mother and her boyfriend, charged with first degree murder, for torturing and beating the child to death.

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Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on January 06, 2010, 11:40:04 AM
http://www.idahostatesman.com/boise/story/1030672.html

Woman accused of kidnapping son Luca Principali last summer pleads guilty to two misdemeanors
BY PATRICK ORR - porr@idahostatesman.com
Published: 01/05/10

Luca's abduction took on added urgency as the Treasure Valley was still coming to terms with the death of 8-year-old Robert Manwill, who was reported missing July 24 and was found dead 10 days later in the New York Canal near Kuna.

Manwill's mother and her live-in boyfriend were arraigned on first-degree murder charges on Aug. 19, the day Luca was taken.

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Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on January 08, 2010, 12:26:06 PM
http://www.670kboi.com/Article.asp?id=1651306&spid=18042

Judge rules in Robert Manwill murder case

Separate trials will be held for a man and woman accused of the beating death of an 8-year-old Boise boy last summer.  District Judge Darla Williamson decided Thursday to hold separate trials for Melissa Jenkins and Daniel Ehrlick.  Jenkins and Ehrlick are each charged with first-degree murder in the death of Jenkins' son Robert Manwill. Thousands of Boise residents helped to search for the boy for more than a week after he was reported missing. His body was found Aug. 3 in an irrigation canal near Kuna.  The judge is still considering a request to move the trials out of Boise and a hearing will be held later this month on the request.  Both Jenkins and Ehrlick remain in the Ada County Jail.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on January 08, 2010, 12:28:19 PM
http://www.idahostatesman.com/235/story/1033507.html

Jenkins and Ehrlick granted separate trials in Robert Manwill murder case

Melissa Jenkins and Daniel Ehrlick will face different juries in their first-degree murder trials later this year in connection with the beating death of Jenkins’s son Robert Manwill in July.

What is still unknown is when trials will begin and if they will be in Ada County or be moved elsewhere in the state due to pretrial publicity.

Jenkins and Ehrlick’s jury trial was supposed to begin May 17, but that’s not going to happen as defense attorneys and prosecutors have agreed to delay the case. A hearing to set new trial dates is set for Jan. 14. Fourth District Judge Darla Williamson said Thursday she will hold a hearing on Jenkins’ and Ehrlick’s motion to move the trial out of Ada County about a month before it is scheduled to begin — to get a better feel for how pretrial publicity might affect the jury pool.

Williamson granted a motion Thursday filed by Ehrlick’s attorneys for a separate jury trial.

Defense attorneys say a separate trial is necessary since Melissa Jenkins made incriminating statements against her then boyfriend, Daniel Ehrlick, during an investigation into her 8-year-old son's disappearance and murder in July.

Prosecutors said Thursday they do not object to separate trials as long as Jenkins’ trial is scheduled first. Prosecutors say Ehrlick beat Jenkins' son in a pattern of "escalating physical violence" that ended in Robert's death "on or about" July 24.

That was the day the boy was reported missing by Ehrlick, sparking a week-long community search effort that drew more than 2,300 volunteers, the FBI and national attention, and led Boise police to hold daily press conferences.

Both Jenkins — who prosecutors say knew about the abuse and murder of her son but did nothing about it — and Ehrlick are accused of misleading Boise police for almost two weeks before Robert Manwill’s body was found in an irrigation canal near Kuna.

Jenkins and Ehrlick have been in the Ada County Jail since August, when an Ada County grand jury charged them with first-degree murder for the beating death of Robert Manwill.

Neither Jenkins or Ehrlick spoke during Thursday’s brief motion hearing. Both were shackled and dressed in orange Ada County Jail jumpsuits, sitting at opposite ends of the defense table with lawyers sitting between them.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on January 08, 2010, 12:31:10 PM
http://www.ktvb.com/news/Couple-accused-of-killing-Robert-Manwill-to-be-tried-seperately-80935167.html

BOISE -- The couple accused of killing 8-year-old Robert Manwill last summer were back in court this afternoon.

Attorneys for the boy's mother, Melissa Jenkins, and her boyfriend, Daniel Ehrlick, want a jury from outside of southwest Idaho, but they didn't get that change of venue today.

Judge Darla Williamson says she'll hear arguments on that motion two weeks before new trial dates are set.

Last July, thousands of people spent weeks searching for Robert Manwill, whose body was found Aug. 3 in the New York canal.

Jenkins and Ehrlick made public pleas for help, but it was those two police arrested for murder.

Today, both defendants sat quietly in court, only speaking in whispers to their attorneys.  Several sheriff's deputies surrounded them.

Ehrlick's attorney asked the judge for separate trials because he says Jenkins implicated Ehrlick in interviews, and it could pose a conflict for his client.  The judge granted that motion.

After the hearing, Trish Burrill told us her sister, Melissa Jenkins, is distraught and confused.

"It's a chess game, that's exactly the way it is. one person, one side says this the next side does this. It's just a chess game until they get it all figured out and we go to trial and hear what really happened to Robert," said Burrill.

Next week, the two defendants will be back in court, where the judge will hear motions to push back their trials.

Right now, Ehrlick's is scheduled for April, and Jenkins is set for May.

Prosecutors asked the judge to consider holding Jenkins' trial first.

(video at link)


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on January 08, 2010, 12:33:56 PM
http://www.2news.tv/news/local/80953122.html

(http://media.2news.tv/images/091105_jenkins_ehrlick.jpg)

BOISE - The two people charged in the death of an 8-year-old boy faced a judge for a first time in months on Thursday.

Robert Manwill went missing last summer and was eventually found dead in a canal in Kuna.

In court on Thursday, a judge decided that Daniel Erhlick and Melissa Jenkins will be tried separately for the murder of Manwill.

"It's just a chess game until they get it all figured out until we go to trial and hear what really what happened to Robert," said Trish Burrill, Manwill's aunt.

The judge did not make any decisions on a change of venue for the trials. A hearing will be held later this month.



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: burkieandemme on January 08, 2010, 03:54:14 PM
Thank you Cece for the updates.

If Melissa was any type of mother she would not let this become a "chess game".    ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on January 31, 2010, 11:26:42 AM
http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/1054493.html

Defense says evidence thin in the Manwill case
Prosecutors 'must be doing something or they wouldn't be so confident,' public defender says.

Published: 01/25/10

While defense attorneys for Ehrlick and co-defendant Melissa Jenkins - Manwill's mother - have more than 20,000 documents of evidence to review, Myshin said prosecutors have not informed them some about basic steps - such as whether they are doing DNA tests or other forensic examinations on the vast volume of evidence seized from Jenkins' apartment and other locations.

Myshin said the secret testimony that led an Ada County grand jury to charge Ehrlick with murder won't stand up in trial.

"I don't know what it is, their theory (of the case). After going through all of these pages, there is such a huge volume (of documents), it's almost useless," Myshin told 4th District Judge Darla Williamson. "Based upon the grand jury indictment, to me this is a very thin case ... (prosecutors) have to be doing something, or they wouldn't be so confident. I just don't know what that is."

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Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cece on January 31, 2010, 11:29:37 AM
also snipped from above article:

Ada County Deputy Prosecutor Jill Longhurst told Williamson they haven't kept any evidence from the defense.

"I don't see this as the big forensic case it has been referred to," Longhurst said last week. "It's the state's responsibility to preserve all evidence ... defense attorneys can test whatever evidence they want."

Myshin said the only forensic evidence he has received so far is the initial autopsy report for Robert.

Williamson gave prosecutors until March 15 to get their forensic testing scheduled and tell defense attorneys what experts they intend to call.

That should give the defense enough time to prepare their case before a trial, scheduled to begin in September.

Williamson also warned both sides that both trials were going to happen this fall, so they needed to meet the deadlines.

"I'm not going to reschedule this trial ... the trial dates are firm dates," Williamson said.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Nut44x4 on March 13, 2010, 07:02:00 PM
Ehrlick wants to get rid of his public defenders

Associated Press - March 13, 2010 6:24 PM ET

BOISE, Idaho (AP) - A southwestern Idaho man who police say killed an 8-year-old boy and is charged with first-degree murder has filed a motion to get rid of his court-appointed public defenders.

Daniel Ehrlick Jr. filed the motion Thursday in 4th District Court.

The Idaho Statesman reports that Ehrlick contends his public defenders have lied to him and that he feels badgered by the public defender's office.

Ehrlick and Melissa Jenkins are charged with first-degree murder in connection with the beating death of Jenkins' son, Robert Manwill.

The child was reported missing in Boise on July 24; his body was found nearly two weeks later in a local canal.

http://www.khq.com/Global/story.asp?S=12136409


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: MuffyBee on March 13, 2010, 08:27:33 PM
I'm so heartbroken about the horrible, needless death of Robert.  Part of me hesitated to come into this thread again, because it's so sad.  I remember my two sons when they were eight years old.  It was an interesting age, since they were starting to be their own person and being a little independent but still trusted and relied on me and my husband  for guidance.    And to know there was a boy that should have been able to grow on up and instead had such pain and suffering and finally death,  it's almost too much.  But I came in to check on this thread, because although Robert Manwill is gone from this Earth and no one can hurt him any more, he still needs justice.  Rest in peace Robert.  Praying for justice.   ::MonkeyAngel::  Bless you little dude.   ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cookie on March 15, 2010, 02:39:26 PM
I'm so heartbroken about the horrible, needless death of Robert.  Part of me hesitated to come into this thread again, because it's so sad.  I remember my two sons when they were eight years old.  It was an interesting age, since they were starting to be their own person and being a little independent but still trusted and relied on me and my husband  for guidance.    And to know there was a boy that should have been able to grow on up and instead had such pain and suffering and finally death,  it's almost too much.  But I came in to check on this thread, because although Robert Manwill is gone from this Earth and no one can hurt him any more, he still needs justice.  Rest in peace Robert.  Praying for justice.   ::MonkeyAngel::  Bless you little dude.   ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::

very sad..
I don't know how any lawyer could defend these people but I suppose that they have to do their job even though they might not be able to stand their client .....


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: burkieandemme on April 23, 2010, 11:59:40 AM
http://www.idahostatesman.com/2010/03/26/1131091/manwill-murder-trial-still-on.html
Manwill murder trial still on track
Ehrlick agrees to keep his public defenders, but claims evidence against him is 'hearsay.'
BY PATRICK ORR porr@idahostatesman.com - Idaho Statesman
Copyright: © 2010 Idaho Statesman
Published: 03/26/10


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Read past stories about Robert Manwill
Daniel Ehrlick Jr. told a judge Thursday he had wanted to fire his attorneys because the case was taking too long, that they failed to challenge the grand jury indictment that charged him with first-degree murder and that they keep asking him if he killed 8-year-old Robert Manwill.

But the Boise man said he changed his mind after talking to public defenders Amyl Myshin and Gus Cahill and now has "a clearer picture of what is going on ... of how things are going."

Fourth District Judge Darla Williamson closed Ehrlick's motion hearing to the public, prosecutors and media to protect Ehrlick's rights to a fair trial and attorney-client privilege, but she released a redacted transcript to the Statesman later Thursday.

Ehrlick and his ex-girlfriend, Melissa Jenkins, are both charged with first-degree murder for the killing of Jenkins' son.

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With this motion out of the way, the case can continue to move to trial, which Williamson plans for this fall. Ehrlick and Jenkins will be tried separately, with Ehrlick scheduled to go first in October.




Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: AmandaReckonwith on July 16, 2010, 10:40:21 PM
Sorry if this is the wrong thread. I wasn't able to find a current thread.

Robert Manwill case archive album is updated to add the recent developmenrs in court.

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Robert%20Manwill%20%20-ID-/


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Nut44x4 on July 17, 2010, 12:20:54 PM
I believe this is the correct place, Amanda. Thanks.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on July 21, 2010, 04:02:29 PM
BOISE -- A judge has granted the state's motion to compel the testimony of Melissa Jenkins in her former boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick's trial. She would be granted immunity for that testimony, meaning it could not be used against her in her trial.

Jenkins and Ehrlick are accused of murdering Jenkins' son, 8-year-old Robert Manwill, whose body was found floating in a Kuna canal on Aug. 10 2009.

Both are charged with first-degree murder.

Ehrlick is also charged with failure to report a death to law enforcement, while Jenkins is charged as an accessory.

Last Thursday, prosecutors and defense attorney's argued whether Jenkins should take the stand to testify against Ehrlick during his murder trial.

Jenkins' attorney Rob Chastain did not want his client to testify because he says she is a chronic liar, and he argued that could get her in trouble on the witness stand.

Ada County prosecutors argued Jenkins' testimony is necessary in this case.  Of particular interest is Robert's physical condition on the morning of July 24th, the day he was reported missing.  The boy had complained of head, stomach and back pains that day.

According to court documents, Jenkins told the grand jury that Robert was having a hard time walking and stumbled down the hall of their apartment.  She acknowledged she should have sought medical attention for Robert.

Fourth District Judge Darla Williamson wrote in her order that it is in the public interest to have Jenkins testify because she was a witness to Robert's condition prior to his death.

"Compelling her to testify is consistent with the functioning of government to solve crimes and to hold accountable those who commit crimes," she wrote.
http://www.ktvb.com/news/local/Judge-compels-Jenkins-to-testify-at-Ehrlicks-trial-98939724.html


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: pink angel on July 21, 2010, 04:03:52 PM
There are dramatic new details coming out in the Robert Manwill's case showing what investigators say the abuse the eight year old endured lead up to his death.

The Idaho Statesman obtained documents that show a repeated pattern of abuse and perhaps the most chilling part is how the abuse was hidden from those who could have saved the little boy's life

The coroner's report shows that 8-year old Robert Manwill died of blunt force trauma and with the new evidence that's being made public it's showing how Robert was abused weeks before his murder.

Almost a year later there's still no justice for 8-year old Robert Manwill. His mother, Melissa Jenkins and her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick, are accused of murdering the young boy.

The court documents show witnesses describing rough discipline, pinning the boy to the ground, pushing his face against a wall, and hitting Robert.

"There's an allegation that Daniel Ehrlick committed the use of wooden molding to hit Robert," said Idaho Statesman reporter Patrick Orr.

The little boy's mysterious disappearance sparked national attention. Thousands of community members searched high and low for Robert, while his mother insisted she had nothing to do with his disappearance.

"All I really want to say is please, please, help me find my son," said Melissa Jenkins during the search one year ago.

Just a few days after being reported missing police found the little boy dead in a canal. Now his mother is accused of covering up the crime and lying to police. The Idaho Statesman revealed new information from grand jury testimony.

Prosecutors claim for weeks before the boy's death there was a pattern of "escalating physical violence."

Ehrlick is accused of forcing Robert to lie motionless on the ground after "dropping a knee" onto his chest. The couple would also make the little boy eat food "he did not like" until he vomited. And when Health and Welfare workers would come to the mother's home court records reported Robert's mom hid him in a closet so they wouldn't see his bruises.

Now prosecutors want to force Robert's mother to testify against her boyfriend in his trial.

"She's probably the key to the prosecution because she knows better than anybody what happened," said Orr.

On Thursday there's a court hearing to try to force Melissa Jenkins to give that testimony against her boyfriend that could finally reveal what happened to her son.

http://www.kivitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=12809486




Think about you all the time little man. Justice is coming.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: seahorse on July 22, 2010, 08:42:16 AM
There are dramatic new details coming out in the Robert Manwill's case showing what investigators say the abuse the eight year old endured lead up to his death.

The Idaho Statesman obtained documents that show a repeated pattern of abuse and perhaps the most chilling part is how the abuse was hidden from those who could have saved the little boy's life

The coroner's report shows that 8-year old Robert Manwill died of blunt force trauma and with the new evidence that's being made public it's showing how Robert was abused weeks before his murder.

Almost a year later there's still no justice for 8-year old Robert Manwill. His mother, Melissa Jenkins and her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick, are accused of murdering the young boy.

The court documents show witnesses describing rough discipline, pinning the boy to the ground, pushing his face against a wall, and hitting Robert.

"There's an allegation that Daniel Ehrlick committed the use of wooden molding to hit Robert," said Idaho Statesman reporter Patrick Orr.

The little boy's mysterious disappearance sparked national attention. Thousands of community members searched high and low for Robert, while his mother insisted she had nothing to do with his disappearance.

"All I really want to say is please, please, help me find my son," said Melissa Jenkins during the search one year ago.

Just a few days after being reported missing police found the little boy dead in a canal. Now his mother is accused of covering up the crime and lying to police. The Idaho Statesman revealed new information from grand jury testimony.

Prosecutors claim for weeks before the boy's death there was a pattern of "escalating physical violence."

Ehrlick is accused of forcing Robert to lie motionless on the ground after "dropping a knee" onto his chest. The couple would also make the little boy eat food "he did not like" until he vomited. And when Health and Welfare workers would come to the mother's home court records reported Robert's mom hid him in a closet so they wouldn't see his bruises.

Now prosecutors want to force Robert's mother to testify against her boyfriend in his trial.

"She's probably the key to the prosecution because she knows better than anybody what happened," said Orr.

On Thursday there's a court hearing to try to force Melissa Jenkins to give that testimony against her boyfriend that could finally reveal what happened to her son.

http://www.kivitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=12809486




Think about you all the time little man. Justice is coming.


How could Robert's death been prevented?

Were others aware of this brutal treatment?  "Gandpa"?  RM mothers, boyfriends father ,must have been aware of this nonsense.

This shouldn't have happened, Robert should now be in summer camp or looking forward to the roller coasters at a Park.
How could this have been prevented?  A cell phone? If Robert had a cell phone would that have helped? If Robert natural father
didn't hear from him then it would be a red flag.  Robert loved cartoon sketches, he could have been a great artist, we will never know.   ::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: cookie on July 23, 2010, 01:24:30 PM
Hi Seahorse..
this is so heartbreaking to think about..all the things he should be doing, the things that he could have become..sigh...


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: shy-monkey on August 15, 2010, 11:14:04 PM
A few days ago I posted my story, about how it's not as simple as reporting child abuse to CPS and LE. Robert Manwill was from my state.

The details of CPS entirely dropping the ball aren't surprising, it's actually more surprising they picked up the ball to begin with, that's a rarity here. as I said in my story it takes 3 confirmed and documented reports and then something like, in this case a little baby's skull being fractured, before CPS and LE will risk looking in to it. As they say "until the propor steps are followed and they have documentation, they're hands are tied."

RIP Robert Manwill

I am also more saddened than surprised, that a far as CPS and LE protecting children, statistically there are worse states than us.


http://www.idahostatesman.com/2010/08/15/1303492/state-failed-robert-despite-many.html#storylink=mirelated


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: shy-monkey on August 15, 2010, 11:55:11 PM
There are dramatic new details coming out in the Robert Manwill's case showing what investigators say the abuse the eight year old endured lead up to his death.

The Idaho Statesman obtained documents that show a repeated pattern of abuse and perhaps the most chilling part is how the abuse was hidden from those who could have saved the little boy's life

The coroner's report shows that 8-year old Robert Manwill died of blunt force trauma and with the new evidence that's being made public it's showing how Robert was abused weeks before his murder.

Almost a year later there's still no justice for 8-year old Robert Manwill. His mother, Melissa Jenkins and her boyfriend Daniel Ehrlick, are accused of murdering the young boy.

The court documents show witnesses describing rough discipline, pinning the boy to the ground, pushing his face against a wall, and hitting Robert.

"There's an allegation that Daniel Ehrlick committed the use of wooden molding to hit Robert," said Idaho Statesman reporter Patrick Orr.

The little boy's mysterious disappearance sparked national attention. Thousands of community members searched high and low for Robert, while his mother insisted she had nothing to do with his disappearance.

"All I really want to say is please, please, help me find my son," said Melissa Jenkins during the search one year ago.

Just a few days after being reported missing police found the little boy dead in a canal. Now his mother is accused of covering up the crime and lying to police. The Idaho Statesman revealed new information from grand jury testimony.

Prosecutors claim for weeks before the boy's death there was a pattern of "escalating physical violence."

Ehrlick is accused of forcing Robert to lie motionless on the ground after "dropping a knee" onto his chest. The couple would also make the little boy eat food "he did not like" until he vomited. And when Health and Welfare workers would come to the mother's home court records reported Robert's mom hid him in a closet so they wouldn't see his bruises.

Now prosecutors want to force Robert's mother to testify against her boyfriend in his trial.

"She's probably the key to the prosecution because she knows better than anybody what happened," said Orr.

On Thursday there's a court hearing to try to force Melissa Jenkins to give that testimony against her boyfriend that could finally reveal what happened to her son.

http://www.kivitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=12809486




Think about you all the time little man. Justice is coming.


How could Robert's death been prevented?

Were others aware of this brutal treatment?  "Gandpa"?  RM mothers, boyfriends father ,must have been aware of this nonsense.

This shouldn't have happened, Robert should now be in summer camp or looking forward to the roller coasters at a Park.
How could this have been prevented?  A cell phone? If Robert had a cell phone would that have helped? If Robert natural father
didn't hear from him then it would be a red flag.  Robert loved cartoon sketches, he could have been a great artist, we will never know.   ::MonkeyJustice::

Had all the above known and reported it, it wouldn't have made any difference. If you look in to Idaho's Child Protection system, it is flawed to the point even had they known, without serious injury or death of a child, they have proper steps needed before they can get involved.

A friend of mine works for CPS and she attempted to explain the legal end of the system and while I didn't like what I was hearing, understood I did sort of understand what she was saying. However I have yet to understand why nothing is being done to change the laws or requirements needed to as they say "untie their hands, so they can do something".

A lot of the problem started with lawsuits won, by parents who's child died while in foster care. One of the cases, settled out of court, was over an Idaho toddler who was taken out of state with his foster family, but without proper consent and while on that vacation he drowned. That plus too many other, died in Idaho foster care kids, started a stricter rules for current foster families and stricter screenings of potential foster parents. Also putting things in place to hold the foster families along with the state, accountable.

Instead of the planned improvement intended, it caused reputable foster homes to drop from the program, 5, I knew personally. It also made potential new ones think becoming a foster family carried too high of a risk, so many potentials and now won't even apply. There truly is a shortage of foster homes here, but from where I sit, seeing it usually takes a death or serious injury before CPS or LE will write a report, I can't help but think that's far from the only flaw in the system.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: burkieandemme on October 06, 2010, 04:29:48 PM
Murder trial for man charged with killing Robert Manwill is delayed over DNA evidence issues
BY PATRICK ORR - porr@idahostatesman.com
Published: 10/01/10

The October jury trial of first-degree murder suspect Daniel Ehrlick has been delayed indefinitely because Ada County prosecutors did not give Ehrlick’s attorneys DNA evidence in a timely manner.

Fourth District Judge Darla Williamson postponed Daniel Ehrlick's first-degree murder trial Friday - after jury selection on the case had already begun - saying Ada County prosecutors "put the court in an untenable position."
Williamson had repeatedly told prosecutors and defense attorneys this summer she wanted to begin the trial as scheduled in October.
Ehrlick is accused of beating 8-year-old Robert Manwill in a pattern of "escalating physical violence" last summer that ended in a fatal head injury.

Ehrlick murder trial delayed until spring, but Jenkins trial still on schedule for January in Boise

(Snipped)
Read more: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2010/10/01/1363414/murder-trial-for-man-charged-with.html#ixzz11c0iITfJ


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: burkieandemme on October 06, 2010, 04:37:17 PM

Ehrlick murder trial delayed until spring, but Jenkins trial still on schedule for January in Boise
BY PATRICK ORR - porr@idahostatesman.com
Published: 10/06/10

The October jury trial of first-degree murder suspect Daniel Ehrlick has been delayed indefinitely because Ada County prosecutors did not give Ehrlick’s attorneys DNA evidence in a timely manner.
Fourth District Judge Darla Williamson issued the order Friday, less than a week after Ehrlick’s attorneys asked for a delay — and after jury selection had already begun.
Ehrlick is charged for what prosecutors say was the beating death of 8-year-old Robert Manwill last summer. Also charged with first-degree murder is Melissa Jenkins, who is Robert Manwill's mother and was Ehrlick’s girlfriend at the time her son was killed. Jenkins' trial is scheduled to start in January.

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The woman charged with first-degree murder in the death of her 8-year-old son Robert Manwill is a "self-admitted and diagnosed compulsive liar," her defense attorneys say.
If Melissa Jenkins is forced to testify against her former boyfriend and co-defendant, Daniel Ehrlick, she will be setting herself up for a perjury charge - if she doesn't corroborate statements she made to Boise police and others about Ehrlick in the murder investigation - her defenders told 4th District Judge Darla Williamson Thursday.
They also claim whatever Jenkins might say in Ehrlick's trial will make it even harder for her to get a fair trial later this year due to intense media coverage of the case.

Jury selection in the Daniel Ehrlick first-degree murder trial was supposed to begin next week, but now that isn’t going to happen until spring 2011.

Prospective jurors are now scheduled to fill out a questionnaire — to find out if they can be impartial in the high profile case about the beating death of an 8-year-old Robert Manwill last summer — on April 27.

Individual juror interviews for the trial will begin in May, with a jury trial to follow, which is expected to last for up to six weeks.

Ehrlick is accused of beating Manwill in a pattern of "escalating physical violence" last summer that ended in a fatal head injury.

Melissa Jenkins - the boy's mother and Ehrlick's former girlfriend - is also charged with first-degree murder. Ada County prosecutors say she knew about the abuse, hid it from state child protection workers and did nothing to stop it.

Fourth District Judge Darla Williamson granted a request by Ehrlick’s attorneys to delay the trial because prosecutors did not turn over results of DNA evidence tests until late September — just weeks before the trial was supposed to begin. That didn't give the defense enough time to have the evidence tested, she said - and opened any possible conviction open to a possible appeal.

Prosecutors have been hoping to hold Ehrlick's trial first so they can force Jenkins to testify against him - under a deal stipulating that nothing she says in his trial can be used against her in hers.

Now they won’t be able to do that, since Jenkins trial is still scheduled to begin in January.

Prosecutors say Jenkins knew that Ehrlick beat her son for weeks last summer, and her statements to police appear to be a major part of the prosecution's case against her and Ehrlick.

Manwill's reported disappearance on July 23, 2009, sparked a communitywide search that included more than 2,300 volunteers and the FBI and garnered national attention. It ended in grief about two weeks later when his battered body was found near Kuna in an irrigation canal.



Read more: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2010/10/06/1369313/ehrlick-murder-trial-delayed-until.html#ixzz11c3eVmTs


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: burkieandemme on October 06, 2010, 04:38:02 PM
You will forever be in my thoughts Robert. 


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Sister on October 06, 2010, 05:12:16 PM
I believe everyone is entitled to a fair trial.

I believe even more, the victim, Robert, deserves more consideration and fairness, thus justice than these two POS.
We remember little man.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/WEATHER/furby-halo2-1.gif)


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: AmandaReckonwith on January 30, 2011, 09:22:41 PM
Case archive album

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Robert%20Manwill%20%20-ID-/


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: klaasend on January 31, 2011, 03:22:15 PM
http://www.idahopress.com/news/article_1c240094-2d62-11e0-873e-001cc4c03286.html

Robert Manwill's mother pleads guilty in boy's death

Posted: Monday, January 31, 2011 10:46 am | Updated: 12:11 pm, Mon Jan 31, 2011.

BOISE - Melissa Scott Jenkins pleaded guilty this morning in Boise to aiding and abetting murder in the second degree for her participation in the murder of her son, Robert Manwill.

Sentencing is set for Aug. 11 at 1 p.m. at the Ada County Courthouse. Prosecutors are asking for 25 years fixed with no possibility of parole.

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Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Gizzie on January 31, 2011, 09:13:45 PM
 ::MonkeyShocked:: Wow! Only 25 years!

I guess it's some type of justice. Not the sentence I would have wanted. At least she has to serve everyday of it!

It'll be interesting to see if the other POS tries to plea now.

Rest in Peace Little Man!   ::MonkeyAngel::
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/readers/2009/08/01/manwill_1.jpg)


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: shy-monkey on February 01, 2011, 02:30:46 AM
::MonkeyShocked:: Wow! Only 25 years!

I guess it's some type of justice. Not the sentence I would have wanted. At least she has to serve everyday of it!

It'll be interesting to see if the other POS tries to plea now.

Rest in Peace Little Man!   ::MonkeyAngel::
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/readers/2009/08/01/manwill_1.jpg)

I have been infuriated by this entire case, today especially. Seeing this sweet picture of Robert with the RIP little man, was a great reminder that he can rest in peace now that he's away from that sorry excuse of a parent . She didn't deserve him!!!! And Idaho CPS totally dropped the ball here, which I'm sure has a lot to do with who and what wasn't allowed in the courtroom.

Because CPS was largely to blame here, that also must have a lot to do with why she only received 25 years. *SHE* as in Melissa Jenkins was the one charged and convicted of fracturing the skull of Robert's baby brother (plus all the other broken bones found after he was taken into state custody), not Ehrlick, yet they take her word for it that she didn't actually cause Robert's death, she's only guilty of leaving him in the care of an abusive person. First CPS fails him and now the courts? What a bunch of BS!!!

Melissa Jenkins was on probation through the end of March 2011 and one of the terms of that court order was that she could NOT even live with Ehrlick because he was awarded custody of the baby, the one she couldn't be around after she was convicted of breaking his skull.

Depending on the day and who's telling the story, everything from, the CPS workers assigned to Robert weren't the same ones assigned to the baby's case, so they weren't aware of the details in that court order, to yeah they knew she was in contempt living there but they aren't law enforcement so they can't enforce court orders, is being said by the "not our fault" CPS clowns. Evidently these CPS workers have the intelligence of a box of rocks and too d*mn dumb to know how to notify someone who can enforce court orders.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/2010/08/15/1303492/state-failed-robert-despite-many.html


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Three times a week for an unknown number of weeks, employees and contractors with the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare visited the home where Robert was living in June and July 2009 with his mother and Ehrlick.

A court order banned Jenkins from living there because she had fractured the skull of Robert's baby brother, who lived with Ehrlick, his legal father. If the order had been enforced, neither Jenkins nor Robert would have been living there.

• Health and Welfare workers who visited the home failed to physically inspect Robert for signs of abuse, court records show.

• State welfare workers received three previous reports regarding Jenkins and her family before finally acting in 2008 when Jenkins fractured the skull of Robert's infant brother, Aidan.

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Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: 4 Donks on September 02, 2011, 04:03:30 PM
Daniel Ehrlick, Idaho Man, Gets Life For Killing 8-Year-Old Boy

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/02/daniel-ehrlick-life-for-killing-8-year-old_n_946910.html

 ::snipping2::
BOISE, Idaho — The mother of a boy whose body was found in an Idaho canal with rocks stuffed in his pockets has been sentenced to 25 years in prison for aiding in his death.


 ::snipping2::
Earlier Friday, Jenkins' boyfriend, 38-year-old Daniel Ehrlick, was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole for the boy's death in 2009. Ehrlick was convicted of first-degree murder in June.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: MuffyBee on September 02, 2011, 07:04:17 PM
 ::justice2NJ::  But my heart still feels so heavy for little Robert, may he rest in peace.  ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Sister on September 05, 2011, 02:03:27 PM
::justice2NJ::  But my heart still feels so heavy for little Robert, may he rest in peace.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Mine too Muffy, mine too!
::MonkeyTears::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: KittyMom on September 06, 2011, 09:16:37 AM
RIP Robert.  You deserved to know a mother's love.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Sister on September 07, 2011, 12:23:17 PM
Allison Krause and Alan Jackson
"And the Angels Cried"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OYtLH4Moas&feature=related


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: AmandaReckonwith on October 15, 2011, 06:17:57 PM
The Ehrlick trial is archived by day, plus all the rest of the case of little Robert.

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Robert%20Manwill%20%20-ID-/


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: MuffyBee on February 28, 2014, 09:12:18 PM
http://www.ktvb.com/community/blogs/carolyn-holly/Remembering-Robert-Manwill-201493751.html
Remembering Robert Manwill
April 4, 2013

 ::snipping3::
 
In the summer of 2009 Robert’s case captured the attention of our community. His body was found in an irrigation canal about a week after his disappearance that had sparked a massive community search across the valley.
His mother and her boyfriend were eventually convicted of his disappearance and death.
   
Now the positive news: Robert lived in New Plymouth and that town will come out in force to remember the youngster and work toward making us all much more aware of child abuse.
This is the positive news that I learned about this week on the News at Noon.
 
It’s the Artists for Kids/Robert Manwill Event to be held April 20th, 2013 in New Plymouth.
 
The day will begin at Kiwanis Park in New Plymouth with the Manwill Mile at 10am for local children in kindergarten through 5th grade followed by the 5K Robert's Run at 10:30 for all ages. Because online registration is not available for this year's race, registration forms for the 5K may be downloaded from the New Plymouth Running Club FB page.  Forms can be mailed in advance or individuals may register the morning of the race from 9-10am. Advance individual registration is $20 or $15 per person if you are on a team of at least 5 runners. Registration the day of the race is $25.
* The Senior Center will be hosting a BBQ from 11am-1pm
* The Artists for Kids/Robert Manwill auction will begin at 6pm.
*100% of the profits from the sale of the artwork will go directly into a scholarship fund in Robert Manwill's name.


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: MuffyBee on February 28, 2014, 09:14:11 PM

(http://i32.tinypic.com/2rw4xz6.jpg)

Lighting a candle for Robert and saying a prayer for his family that is grieving him being gone.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=rob%20m

You have been in my thoughts on a daily basis little dude.


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Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: Sister on March 01, 2014, 08:01:16 PM
Many thanks for such a wonderful update, Muffy   ::buzzbee3::


Title: Re: Robert Manwill 8, missing 7/24/09 Boise, Idaho (BODY FOUND)
Post by: MuffyBee on March 01, 2014, 08:46:24 PM
Many thanks for such a wonderful update, Muffy   ::buzzbee3::

You're welcome Sister.  I think creating a scholarship in Robert's name was a wonderful idea.  The folks that worked to put that together along with the other activities in remembrance of Robert and to help make us all aware of child abuse are so kind and thoughtful.