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Title: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 - 9/13/09
Post by: Nut44x4 on August 24, 2009, 05:42:43 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/ArmsAngels.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 04, 2009, 08:17:58 PM
 ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 04, 2009, 08:18:00 PM
 ::MonkeySkate::  ::MonkeySkate::  ::MonkeySkate::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 04, 2009, 08:19:01 PM
Beautiful picture Nut & Thank you for the clean cage.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 04, 2009, 08:19:20 PM
 ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 04, 2009, 08:19:37 PM
 ::MonkeySlide:: Here. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: DonFL on September 04, 2009, 08:19:57 PM
 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 04, 2009, 08:20:33 PM
MAMA, eat some more cheese. You will feel better.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 04, 2009, 08:20:35 PM
::MonkeySkate::  ::MonkeySkate::  ::MonkeySkate::

Wow,three of you.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 04, 2009, 08:21:33 PM
Thanks for the clean cage Nutt.   ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on September 04, 2009, 08:22:38 PM
MAMA, eat some more cheese. You will feel better.  ::MonkeyDevil2::
::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

i made the last post before cage change and it was about ng's jewelry LOL ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 04, 2009, 08:26:37 PM
MAMA, eat some more cheese. You will feel better.  ::MonkeyDevil2::
::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

i made the last post before cage change and it was about ng's jewelry LOL ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyDevil::  Someone said her necklace last night looked like a chain link fence wrapped around her neck.
 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on September 04, 2009, 08:26:56 PM
ok y'all just finished lenny...y'all get to pick---tracy or cindy next ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 04, 2009, 08:27:01 PM
  ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: DonFL on September 04, 2009, 08:27:34 PM
MAMA, eat some more cheese. You will feel better.  ::MonkeyDevil2::
::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

i made the last post before cage change and it was about ng's jewelry LOL ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyDevil::  Someone said her necklace last night looked like a chain link fence wrapped around her neck.
 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

Someone is always looking for the bright side....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 04, 2009, 08:29:36 PM
ok y'all just finished lenny...y'all get to pick---tracy or cindy next ::MonkeyJnBox::

I could never take cindy this late!  I'd go for Tracy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 04, 2009, 08:29:45 PM
MAMA, eat some more cheese. You will feel better.  ::MonkeyDevil2::
::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

i made the last post before cage change and it was about ng's jewelry LOL ::MonkeyJnBox::

I read it. I am trying to say something not evil.....nevermind.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 04, 2009, 08:30:17 PM
MAMA, eat some more cheese. You will feel better.  ::MonkeyDevil2::
::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

i made the last post before cage change and it was about ng's jewelry LOL ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyDevil::  Someone said her necklace last night looked like a chain link fence wrapped around her neck.
 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

Someone is always looking for the bright side....

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 04, 2009, 08:30:56 PM
ok y'all just finished lenny...y'all get to pick---tracy or cindy next ::MonkeyJnBox::

I could never take cindy this late!  I'd go for Tracy.

I agree, Tracy!  ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 04, 2009, 08:32:32 PM
MAMA, eat some more cheese. You will feel better.  ::MonkeyDevil2::
::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

i made the last post before cage change and it was about ng's jewelry LOL ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyDevil::  Someone said her necklace last night looked like a chain link fence wrapped around her neck.
 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

That was nicer than I was thinking.  ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 04, 2009, 08:32:54 PM
Good night sweet Monkeys.  It was a great day.  One day closer to Justice for Caylee.
Enjoy your evening.

(http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab212/instants/Good%20Night/gnite209.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: DonFL on September 04, 2009, 08:34:59 PM
Goodnight cece.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 04, 2009, 08:35:46 PM
Good night sweet Monkeys.  It was a great day.  One day closer to Justice for Caylee.
Enjoy your evening.

(http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab212/instants/Good%20Night/gnite209.jpg)

Good night CECE. You are really a good person.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 04, 2009, 08:38:10 PM
::MonkeySkate::  ::MonkeySkate::  ::MonkeySkate::

Wow,three of you.   ::MonkeyHaHa::
  ::MonkeyLaugh:: Just one of me, you have had one too many.  ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyShocked::  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on September 04, 2009, 08:40:04 PM
well, tracy it is by majority! ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 04, 2009, 08:44:11 PM
 Nite Monkeys. Everytime I tried to listen to Rob D, it stopped right after he gave his phone number. Is it something wrong with my computer or is it on the WFTV site.

I wanted to hear what he had to say. Tracy and LP were good enough for me. They both seemed to tell the same stories.

If anyone can find better audio of Rob D, I would appreciate it. TIA JSM

I am going to drink my cough medicine and go to bed.

 ::MonkeyGavel:: Justice for Caylee is coming soon.

KC is cooked!!! JMO JSM  ::MonkeyDevil2::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 04, 2009, 08:44:58 PM
Good night sweet Monkeys.  It was a great day.  One day closer to Justice for Caylee.
Enjoy your evening.

(http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab212/instants/Good%20Night/gnite209.jpg)
Nite Cece.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 04, 2009, 08:45:41 PM
Nite Monkeys. Everytime I tried to listen to Rob D, it stopped right after he gave his phone number. Is it something wrong with my computer or is it on the WFTV site.

I wanted to hear what he had to say. Tracy and LP were good enough for me. They both seemed to tell the same stories.

If anyone can find better audio of Rob D, I would appreciate it. TIA JSM

I am going to drink my cough medicine and go to bed.

 ::MonkeyGavel:: Justice for Caylee is coming soon.

KC is cooked!!! JMO JSM  ::MonkeyDevil2::



It did the same to me for a couple of times. I had to work to hear it all.  Nite.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: DonFL on September 04, 2009, 08:47:01 PM
I guess I'm out of here too.  Thank you all for the information and the friendship.  Monkeys are the BEST!!   ::MonkeyCheer2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 04, 2009, 08:47:13 PM
SEEME, Thank you for the photobucket today.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on September 04, 2009, 08:47:15 PM
sweet dreams all sleepy monkeys....
 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::
i'm gonna hang out for a while ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 04, 2009, 08:49:10 PM
I guess I'm out of here too.  Thank you all for the information and the friendship.  Monkeys are the BEST!!   ::MonkeyCheer2::

I'm about toast myself. I have been up since very early, like on Christmas morning. I am going to listen to all of Lenny and then I am going to bed, or maybe visa-versa.

It's good to be a monkey.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 04, 2009, 08:50:18 PM
sweet dreams all sleepy monkeys....
 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::
i'm gonna hang out for a while ::MonkeyJnBox::

I wish I could hang with you. But I'll see you tomorrow.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on September 04, 2009, 08:50:39 PM
listening to tracy talk about casey wackin bamboo with a shovel  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on September 04, 2009, 08:51:48 PM
sweet dreams all sleepy monkeys....
 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::
i'm gonna hang out for a while ::MonkeyJnBox::

I wish I could hang with you. But I'll see you tomorrow.  ::MonkeyAngel::
sweet dreams of pink and yellow jelly beans mis Mae!  (i've missed you!) ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 04, 2009, 08:53:02 PM
sweet dreams all sleepy monkeys....
 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::
i'm gonna hang out for a while ::MonkeyJnBox::

I wish I could hang with you. But I'll see you tomorrow.  ::MonkeyAngel::
sweet dreams of pink and yellow jelly beans mis Mae!  (i've missed you!) ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::

I've missed you too, MAMA.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 04, 2009, 09:00:49 PM
I just got in from going out to eat-  Mexican  - yum--  did Nancy have any of the Padilla tapes on tonight? I will watch the late re run if she did... otherwise I am going to my hacienda and have a siesta.     ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 04, 2009, 09:05:32 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/ArmsAngels.jpg)

Nut this is beautiful!!  And I love the song as well!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 04, 2009, 09:07:25 PM
Good night sweet Monkeys.  It was a great day.  One day closer to Justice for Caylee.
Enjoy your evening.

(http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab212/instants/Good%20Night/gnite209.jpg)

Good Night cece and thanks so much for all you did today....and everyday!  You ARE appreciated!!! ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 04, 2009, 09:20:09 PM
I just turned on JVM-  that panel she has is so annoying- 4 women with such SHRILL voices and they all try to out-shout each other....  I'm gonna send her a whistle so she can shut them up.
Good night all!   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 04, 2009, 09:21:07 PM
Good Night to all you Monks who are heading outta here!!

ShariVari - GOOD TO SEE YOU back in the cage.

QM - thanks for all the smileys you find and post!

cece - It would not surprise me to learn that Tracy did write letters and/or send money. I think she did  become fond of kc and the A's except for Lee, in some fashion.  I keep reminding myself that these interviews were not given under oath. Tracy REFUSED to speak to LE without being given immunity and her attorney was with her. WHY? IMO She knows a lot more than what was on these tapes. I do think, at times, she might have felt like she was in the twilight zone and that kc's constant chattering got on her nerves....but she isn't off the hook with me yet. ::MonkeyNoNo::  JMO of course!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Sdb on September 04, 2009, 09:21:10 PM
listening to tracy talk about casey wackin bamboo with a shovel  ::MonkeyConfused::
This is what stuck out to me the most. Tracy saying Casey said she borrowed the shovel to get the ladder out of the pool.
I went back and looked up some dates:
6/17     ladder found next to pool
6/18     kc borrowed shovel
7/21     Cindy on Greta's show says shed was locked because we made "conscious


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Sdb on September 04, 2009, 09:21:48 PM
listening to tracy talk about casey wackin bamboo with a shovel  ::MonkeyConfused::
This is what stuck out to me the most. Tracy saying Casey said she borrowed the shovel to get the ladder out of the pool.
I went back and looked up some dates:
6/17     ladder found next to pool
6/18     kc borrowed shovel
7/21     Cindy on Greta's show says shed was locked because we made "conscious
Ooops I goofed...hold on!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Sdb on September 04, 2009, 09:25:31 PM
listening to tracy talk about casey wackin bamboo with a shovel  ::MonkeyConfused::
This is what stuck out to me the most. Tracy saying Casey said she borrowed the shovel to get the ladder out of the pool.
I went back and looked up some dates:
6/17     ladder found next to pool
6/18     kc borrowed shovel
7/21     Cindy on Greta's show says shed was locked because we made "conscious
Ooops I goofed...hold on!
"conscious decision" to be more cautious with Caylee.
7/24     George tells investigators Casey must have borrowed shovel after 6/24 when he bought new lock. Shed was locked because of theft and he says WE ALWAYS PUT IT TO THE SIDE.
after 8/21 Casey tells Tracy she borrowed shovel to get the ladder out of the pool and Cindy and George winced trying to get her to shut up.

There is something about this ladder. Who would have thrown it in the pool?
Why do they have three different stories?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 04, 2009, 09:27:34 PM
Good Night to all you Monks who are heading outta here!!

ShariVari - GOOD TO SEE YOU back in the cage.

QM - thanks for all the smileys you find and post!

cece - It would not surprise me to learn that Tracy did write letters and/or send money. I think she did  become fond of kc and the A's except for Lee, in some fashion.  I keep reminding myself that these interviews were not given under oath. Tracy REFUSED to speak to LE without being given immunity and her attorney was with her. WHY? IMO She knows a lot more than what was on these tapes. I do think, at times, she might have felt like she was in the twilight zone and that kc's constant chattering got on her nerves....but she isn't off the hook with me yet. ::MonkeyNoNo::  JMO of course!!

Yes, the immunity demand bothers me a lot.   What is going on there that she does not want to speak freely about without some protection from the Law.  Can NO-ONE in this whole damn mess just speak the truth as they know it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: klaasend on September 04, 2009, 09:33:41 PM
listening to tracy talk about casey wackin bamboo with a shovel  ::MonkeyConfused::
This is what stuck out to me the most. Tracy saying Casey said she borrowed the shovel to get the ladder out of the pool.
I went back and looked up some dates:
6/17     ladder found next to pool
6/18     kc borrowed shovel
7/21     Cindy on Greta's show says shed was locked because we made "conscious
Ooops I goofed...hold on!
"conscious decision" to be more cautious with Caylee.
7/24     George tells investigators Casey must have borrowed shovel after 6/24 when he bought new lock. Shed was locked because of theft and he says WE ALWAYS PUT IT TO THE SIDE.
after 8/21 Casey tells Tracy she borrowed shovel to get the ladder out of the pool and Cindy and George winced trying to get her to shut up.

There is something about this ladder. Who would have thrown it in the pool?
Why do they have three different stories?

Yep, the ladder..the shed, the dogs hitting in the back yard. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Sdb on September 04, 2009, 09:40:04 PM
listening to tracy talk about casey wackin bamboo with a shovel  ::MonkeyConfused::
This is what stuck out to me the most. Tracy saying Casey said she borrowed the shovel to get the ladder out of the pool.
I went back and looked up some dates:
6/17     ladder found next to pool
6/18     kc borrowed shovel
7/21     Cindy on Greta's show says shed was locked because we made "conscious
Ooops I goofed...hold on!
"conscious decision" to be more cautious with Caylee.
7/24     George tells investigators Casey must have borrowed shovel after 6/24 when he bought new lock. Shed was locked because of theft and he says WE ALWAYS PUT IT TO THE SIDE.
after 8/21 Casey tells Tracy she borrowed shovel to get the ladder out of the pool and Cindy and George winced trying to get her to shut up.

There is something about this ladder. Who would have thrown it in the pool?
Why do they have three different stories?

Yep, the ladder..the shed, the dogs hitting in the back yard. 

It makes me think that George and Cindy really think they know how Caylee died and it has something to do with the pool/ladder. She was arrested on 7/16 and in jail. By 7/21 they are lying about the pool/ladder.
As far as the dogs hitting in the back yard, I think kc hosed herself off in the yard after dumping little Caylee in the muck, leaving trace evidence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 04, 2009, 09:44:33 PM
listening to tracy talk about casey wackin bamboo with a shovel  ::MonkeyConfused::
This is what stuck out to me the most. Tracy saying Casey said she borrowed the shovel to get the ladder out of the pool.
I went back and looked up some dates:
6/17     ladder found next to pool
6/18     kc borrowed shovel
7/21     Cindy on Greta's show says shed was locked because we made "conscious
Ooops I goofed...hold on!

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ok....we'll hold on!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 04, 2009, 09:46:15 PM
listening to tracy talk about casey wackin bamboo with a shovel  ::MonkeyConfused::
This is what stuck out to me the most. Tracy saying Casey said she borrowed the shovel to get the ladder out of the pool.
I went back and looked up some dates:
6/17     ladder found next to pool
6/18     kc borrowed shovel
7/21     Cindy on Greta's show says shed was locked because we made "conscious
Ooops I goofed...hold on!
"conscious decision" to be more cautious with Caylee.
7/24     George tells investigators Casey must have borrowed shovel after 6/24 when he bought new lock. Shed was locked because of theft and he says WE ALWAYS PUT IT TO THE SIDE.
after 8/21 Casey tells Tracy she borrowed shovel to get the ladder out of the pool and Cindy and George winced trying to get her to shut up.

There is something about this ladder. Who would have thrown it in the pool?
Why do they have three different stories?

Good questions! Unfortunately we have no answers to them...only what we think the answers might be.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 04, 2009, 09:48:21 PM
Good Night to all you Monks who are heading outta here!!

ShariVari - GOOD TO SEE YOU back in the cage.

QM - thanks for all the smileys you find and post!

cece - It would not surprise me to learn that Tracy did write letters and/or send money. I think she did  become fond of kc and the A's except for Lee, in some fashion.  I keep reminding myself that these interviews were not given under oath. Tracy REFUSED to speak to LE without being given immunity and her attorney was with her. WHY? IMO She knows a lot more than what was on these tapes. I do think, at times, she might have felt like she was in the twilight zone and that kc's constant chattering got on her nerves....but she isn't off the hook with me yet. ::MonkeyNoNo::  JMO of course!!

Yes, the immunity demand bothers me a lot.   What is going on there that she does not want to speak freely about without some protection from the Law.  Can NO-ONE in this whole damn mess just speak the truth as they know it?

I noticed a couple times LP made reference to Tracy knowing something or holding something back....then he'd say...but I don't think so. Well I do ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 04, 2009, 09:51:00 PM
I logged back on because I went to the Gratefulness Candles, and Caylee's candles are almost all out. Please go light a candle for her on this most important day.  ::MonkeyAngel::


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=CMA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 04, 2009, 09:53:27 PM


Yep, the ladder..the shed, the dogs hitting in the back yard. 

It makes me think that George and Cindy really think they know how Caylee died and it has something to do with the pool/ladder. She was arrested on 7/16 and in jail. By 7/21 they are lying about the pool/ladder.
As far as the dogs hitting in the back yard, I think kc hosed herself off in the yard after dumping little Caylee in the muck, leaving trace evidence.

That kind of goes along with what I thought in the beginning....but that doesn't explain  the duct tape...I can't make the duct tape fit into a scenario with Caylee drowning in the pool.  But kc hosing off in the yard is certainly a possibility...although I have leaned towards sin-sin hosing things from kc's trunk off in the back yard.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 04, 2009, 09:54:14 PM
I logged back on because I went to the Gratefulness Candles, and Caylee's candles are almost all out. Please go light a candle for her on this most important day.  ::MonkeyAngel::


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=CMA

thanks Fanny...will  go light one.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 04, 2009, 09:58:30 PM
My head hurts, my eyes hurt and my butt hurts......it's time to rest...Good Night Monks!!   Hope tomorrow we get the documents.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on September 04, 2009, 09:58:46 PM
I logged back on because I went to the Gratefulness Candles, and Caylee's candles are almost all out. Please go light a candle for her on this most important day.  ::MonkeyAngel::


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=CMA
i lit 3. one for me one for babycrazy and one for daddycrazy (although he thinks i'm just crazy and he's at work...i don't care) ::MonkeyAngel::

but in the end they are all for Caylee ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 04, 2009, 09:58:59 PM
listening to tracy talk about casey wackin bamboo with a shovel  ::MonkeyConfused::
This is what stuck out to me the most. Tracy saying Casey said she borrowed the shovel to get the ladder out of the pool.
I went back and looked up some dates:
6/17     ladder found next to pool
6/18     kc borrowed shovel
7/21     Cindy on Greta's show says shed was locked because we made "conscious
Ooops I goofed...hold on!
"conscious decision" to be more cautious with Caylee.
7/24     George tells investigators Casey must have borrowed shovel after 6/24 when he bought new lock. Shed was locked because of theft and he says WE ALWAYS PUT IT TO THE SIDE.
after 8/21 Casey tells Tracy she borrowed shovel to get the ladder out of the pool and Cindy and George winced trying to get her to shut up.

There is something about this ladder. Who would have thrown it in the pool?
Why do they have three different stories?

Yep, the ladder..the shed, the dogs hitting in the back yard. 

It makes me think that George and Cindy really think they know how Caylee died and it has something to do with the pool/ladder. She was arrested on 7/16 and in jail. By 7/21 they are lying about the pool/ladder.
As far as the dogs hitting in the back yard, I think kc hosed herself off in the yard after dumping little Caylee in the muck, leaving trace evidence.

I have always thought she drowned her.
Very easy to do, no mess, she thought it would be easy to claim an accident with the ladder being left up-  and then? what happened... but for whatever reason- probably panic set in-    she ended up dragging her out of there and into her car.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Sdb on September 04, 2009, 09:59:22 PM


Yep, the ladder..the shed, the dogs hitting in the back yard. 

It makes me think that George and Cindy really think they know how Caylee died and it has something to do with the pool/ladder. She was arrested on 7/16 and in jail. By 7/21 they are lying about the pool/ladder.
As far as the dogs hitting in the back yard, I think kc hosed herself off in the yard after dumping little Caylee in the muck, leaving trace evidence.

That kind of goes along with what I thought in the beginning....but that doesn't explain  the duct tape...I can't make the duct tape fit into a scenario with Caylee drowning in the pool.  But kc hosing off in the yard is certainly a possibility...although I have leaned towards sin-sin hosing things from kc's trunk off in the back yard.
Well I don't know if she drowned. Maybe the fight was really violent, things got thrown around. I just now think all three knew she was dead by June 16th.


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Post by: Fanny Mae on September 04, 2009, 09:59:46 PM
I logged back on because I went to the Gratefulness Candles, and Caylee's candles are almost all out. Please go light a candle for her on this most important day.  ::MonkeyAngel::


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=CMA

thanks Fanny...will  go light one.

Thank you. It looks better already.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 04, 2009, 10:04:13 PM
I tried to log back in earlier, and my password wasn't accepted. I thought I was in trouble again.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

Good night again, Monkeys. It is good to be back.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Sdb on September 04, 2009, 10:07:31 PM
Quote

I have always thought she drowned her.
Very easy to do, no mess, she thought it would be easy to claim an accident with the ladder being left up-  and then? what happened... but for whatever reason- probably panic set in-    she ended up dragging her out of there and into her car.
Could be. I'm sure she died at that house and I starting to really believe all 3 knew it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on September 04, 2009, 10:11:50 PM


Yep, the ladder..the shed, the dogs hitting in the back yard. 

It makes me think that George and Cindy really think they know how Caylee died and it has something to do with the pool/ladder. She was arrested on 7/16 and in jail. By 7/21 they are lying about the pool/ladder.
As far as the dogs hitting in the back yard, I think kc hosed herself off in the yard after dumping little Caylee in the muck, leaving trace evidence.

That kind of goes along with what I thought in the beginning....but that doesn't explain  the duct tape...I can't make the duct tape fit into a scenario with Caylee drowning in the pool.  But kc hosing off in the yard is certainly a possibility...although I have leaned towards sin-sin hosing things from kc's trunk off in the back yard.
maybe to cover it up so it looks like a 'kidnapping'.....not the fact that she was either A: not paying attn to Caylee and she acct. drowned ( thus facing her parents and the police as a child neglect charge maybe misd. child neglect/abuse)  or B:  she drowned her herself being a spiteful b!tch and all.  and tried to cover it up - per duct tape as a kidnapping....

imho....i always thought she was trying to stage a kidnapping and it went wrong...now i could be wrong or not...who knows at this point...the end result is that Caylee is dead and i want some justice for this little girl....weather it was planned or not the one  person responsible for Caylee being dead is casey. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 04, 2009, 10:37:22 PM
listening to tracy talk about casey wackin bamboo with a shovel  ::MonkeyConfused::
This is what stuck out to me the most. Tracy saying Casey said she borrowed the shovel to get the ladder out of the pool.
I went back and looked up some dates:
6/17     ladder found next to pool
6/18     kc borrowed shovel
7/21     Cindy on Greta's show says shed was locked because we made "conscious
Ooops I goofed...hold on!
"conscious decision" to be more cautious with Caylee.
7/24     George tells investigators Casey must have borrowed shovel after 6/24 when he bought new lock. Shed was locked because of theft and he says WE ALWAYS PUT IT TO THE SIDE.
after 8/21 Casey tells Tracy she borrowed shovel to get the ladder out of the pool and Cindy and George winced trying to get her to shut up.


There is something about this ladder. Who would have thrown it in the pool?
Why do they have three different stories?

Yep, the ladder..the shed, the dogs hitting in the back yard. 


And didn't we hear that Mr. & Mrs. Clean let the pool go without cleaning after this ?  Odd, if so, and out of character.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 04, 2009, 10:41:43 PM
Rob Dick's interview was very, very good.  I listened to it last.  Check it out if you haven't done so yet.


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Post by: mamacrazy30 on September 04, 2009, 10:51:11 PM
had to pause Tracy a couple of times due to company....but OMG  my heart bleeds for that woman....the strange laughter is that of a woman doing her job faced with a sociopath.  what do you do with someone that is you?? sociopaths can dig deep and take on whatever trait you project and will needle it out of you what you want.  really for most people the term 'psychic'


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on September 04, 2009, 11:02:55 PM
had to pause Tracy a couple of times due to company....but OMG  my heart bleeds for that woman....the strange laughter is that of a woman doing her job faced with a sociopath.  what do you do with someone that is you?? sociopaths can dig deep and take on whatever trait you project and will needle it out of you what you want.  really for most people the term 'psychic'
oh geeze  got a phone call in the middle of my post...
bet that looked crazy ::MonkeyConfused::
casey is a psychic vampire.  she will mimic what ever emotion you have and can bring up feelings of good times if you are not on the same wave-pattern.


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Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 04, 2009, 11:27:20 PM
Okay, at the risk of sounding like a prude - why all the off topic posts on a huge document day?  Why not discuss findings?  Food, and icons, dolce and blogs and inside jokes and only a handful of topic posts for over 20 pages. 



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Post by: mamacrazy30 on September 04, 2009, 11:27:41 PM
cindy is up next...i luv that woman lol....get ready for a cindy induced rant! ::MonkeyDevil2::


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Post by: cuteascanbe on September 04, 2009, 11:28:26 PM
I don't post much. Not much to say when it's all been said!! I wonder if the remark about Jose telling her to look sad about Caylee will be admissable in court. If I were on a jury, that remark would certainly give me pause. That along with the chloroform remark, the death band and the decomposition....Her reaction to all of this is just so Casey and for a jury should speak volumes..Unless of course they can find 12 of the stupidest people in Florida like they managed to do for the OJ trial...(of course, those jurors admitted that regardless of what was presented, they had no intention of convicting him)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on September 04, 2009, 11:30:05 PM
Okay, at the risk of sounding like a prude - why all the off topic posts on a huge document day?  Why not discuss findings?  Food, and icons, dolce and blogs and inside jokes and only a handful of topic posts for over 20 pages. 


couldn't tell ya...maybe just giddiness?   ::MonkeyBike:: ::MonkeyCheer2:: ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cuteascanbe on September 04, 2009, 11:36:04 PM
I tried listening to Cindy...can't be done. Anyone braver than me have highlights if there are any?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on September 04, 2009, 11:44:37 PM
I guess the most important thing to come from the doc dump today is :
She didn't look for Caylee. She didn't provide any info to anyone at any time ever about where Caylee might be. And she cared more about how she looked
and going on FB and MS. And her little games.
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cuteascanbe on September 04, 2009, 11:44:55 PM
I have always believed that Caylee's murder was premeditated based on the fact that she was getting old enough to verbalize what was going on and could blow Casey's world apart. I don't believe it was a rage killing so the fight (whether it occurred or not) is not that important to me. What puzzles me, is that Caylee's advancing age and verbal skills is such an obvious motive, why has it never been mentioned anywhere??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: klaasend on September 05, 2009, 12:09:38 AM
I have always believed that Caylee's murder was premeditated based on the fact that she was getting old enough to verbalize what was going on and could blow Casey's world apart. I don't believe it was a rage killing so the fight (whether it occurred or not) is not that important to me. What puzzles me, is that Caylee's advancing age and verbal skills is such an obvious motive, why has it never been mentioned anywhere??

Bingo! I agree and I too wonder why it hasn't been discussed much. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: klaasend on September 05, 2009, 12:10:16 AM
I guess the most important thing to come from the doc dump today is :
She didn't look for Caylee. She didn't provide any info to anyone at any time ever about where Caylee might be. And she cared more about how she looked
and going on FB and MS. And her little games.
 


Exactly.  Casey only cares about Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ddex on September 05, 2009, 12:23:01 AM
Hello. I don't say much but read here and really take to heart all the great comments.  After listening to all the docs today I have come to the conclusion that the defense/family believes if they create SO MUCH chaos, that Kc will walk, wether mistrial or whatever, like that was the plan from the very beginning.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BluesyGram on September 05, 2009, 12:34:39 AM
In the very beginning of Tracy's interview, she mentions that Baez brought over a video of the 20/20 story of the Eisenberg's (think that is spelled correctly).  Anyway, that is a story about a couple who had their baby kidnapped from her crib....they never were able to find the body/child..nor any leads to who did it.  The cops highly suspected the parents and put a lot of pressure on them....but were never able to get enough evidence to officially charge them.  They also secretly wiretapped the house to hear their conversations.  From memory I think that they did arrest them after they thought they heard them discussing the father 'doing it'...but I think it was dismissed because they said that it was the TV sayin that.  Anyway, these people eventually moved away and are free today. 

So, my point is that Baez prolly had several reasons why he wanted everyone to see this video....a couply of them are:

DON'T TALK IN THE HOUSE....AND....IF THEY DON'T FIND THE CHILD, YOU MAY WALK FREE.

So this tells me that:  Baez KNEW THE TRUTH by the first time KC got out of jail...AND he knew SIN SIN AND YO YO AND DARTH VADER also knew...otherwise..why would he be so paranoid about them talking in the house?

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Brandi on September 05, 2009, 12:44:41 AM
I tried listening to Cindy...can't be done. Anyone braver than me have highlights if there are any?

Haven't been able to do it myself. (Listen to it.)

If I have the stomach to do it tomorrow, I'll post my notes here if no one else has by then.

Nice to see you, Cuteascanbe.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BluesyGram on September 05, 2009, 12:48:07 AM
Hello. I don't say much but read here and really take to heart all the great comments.  After listening to all the docs today I have come to the conclusion that the defense/family believes if they create SO MUCH chaos, that Kc will walk, wether mistrial or whatever, like that was the plan from the very beginning.


IMO you are right on here.  Their motives are numerous..keeping the media going is certainly one of them for the 'Change of Venue' and Spinning the lies about pizza, there isn't a blanket missing...there IS a blanket missing....we did not have a argument....KC has NO MOTIVE...and on and on.  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Brandi on September 05, 2009, 12:50:12 AM
In the very beginning of Tracy's interview, she mentions that Baez brought over a video of the 20/20 story of the Eisenberg's (think that is spelled correctly).  Anyway, that is a story about a couple who had their baby kidnapped from her crib....they never were able to find the body/child..nor any leads to who did it.  The cops highly suspected the parents and put a lot of pressure on them....but were never able to get enough evidence to officially charge them.  They also secretly wiretapped the house to hear their conversations.  From memory I think that they did arrest them after they thought they heard them discussing the father 'doing it'...but I think it was dismissed because they said that it was the TV sayin that.  Anyway, these people eventually moved away and are free today. 

So, my point is that Baez prolly had several reasons why he wanted everyone to see this video....a couply of them are:

DON'T TALK IN THE HOUSE....AND....IF THEY DON'T FIND THE CHILD, YOU MAY WALK FREE.

So this tells me that:  Baez KNEW THE TRUTH by the first time KC got out of jail...AND he knew SIN SIN AND YO YO AND DARTH VADER also knew...otherwise..why would he be so paranoid about them talking in the house?

 


I agree.

And I think Jose wanted to show Casey what a "grieving" "worried" mother acts like. So Casey can model her behavior after Mrs. Eisenberg and appear as a worried mother.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 05, 2009, 01:06:44 AM
I have always believed that Caylee's murder was premeditated based on the fact that she was getting old enough to verbalize what was going on and could blow Casey's world apart. I don't believe it was a rage killing so the fight (whether it occurred or not) is not that important to me. What puzzles me, is that Caylee's advancing age and verbal skills is such an obvious motive, why has it never been mentioned anywhere??

I'm with you on this cuteascanbe....anyone else notice in several of these new photos of Caylee....glassy-eyed, swollen, red circles around her eyes, even more bruising, etc? Some of them totally creeped me out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 05, 2009, 01:11:57 AM
In the very beginning of Tracy's interview, she mentions that Baez brought over a video of the 20/20 story of the Eisenberg's (think that is spelled correctly).  Anyway, that is a story about a couple who had their baby kidnapped from her crib....they never were able to find the body/child..nor any leads to who did it.  The cops highly suspected the parents and put a lot of pressure on them....but were never able to get enough evidence to officially charge them.  They also secretly wiretapped the house to hear their conversations.  From memory I think that they did arrest them after they thought they heard them discussing the father 'doing it'...but I think it was dismissed because they said that it was the TV sayin that.  Anyway, these people eventually moved away and are free today. 

So, my point is that Baez prolly had several reasons why he wanted everyone to see this video....a couply of them are:

DON'T TALK IN THE HOUSE....AND....IF THEY DON'T FIND THE CHILD, YOU MAY WALK FREE.

So this tells me that:  Baez KNEW THE TRUTH by the first time KC got out of jail...AND he knew SIN SIN AND YO YO AND DARTH VADER also knew...otherwise..why would he be so paranoid about them talking in the house?

 


I agree.

And I think Jose wanted to show Casey what a "grieving" "worried" mother acts like. So Casey can model her behavior after Mrs. Eisenberg and appear as a worried mother.

Bozo, if he had even a single brain cell in that lump that sits on his neck, should have known the only way to shut Miz chatterbox slore up would be to wire her mouth shut with razor wire.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Searching on September 05, 2009, 01:23:03 AM
I have always believed that Caylee's murder was premeditated based on the fact that she was getting old enough to verbalize what was going on and could blow Casey's world apart. I don't believe it was a rage killing so the fight (whether it occurred or not) is not that important to me. What puzzles me, is that Caylee's advancing age and verbal skills is such an obvious motive, why has it never been mentioned anywhere??

I'm with you on this cuteascanbe....anyone else notice in several of these new photos of Caylee....glassy-eyed, swollen, red circles around her eyes, even more bruising, etc? Some of them totally creeped me out.

That no good witch is not capable of crying out of pain of loss of Caylee... She knows she needs to look like she has been instead of the look of "I don't give a *#@&" her new attorney is schooling her well...she has been rubbing her eyes to make it appear she has been crying.....hence the bruising... she is rubbing to hard,the idjit.......

Oh dear,where are my manners.. Hello Monkeys   ::MonkeyAngel::  Hope you are well....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Searching on September 05, 2009, 01:39:05 AM
Good night Monkeys.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 05, 2009, 01:57:30 AM
I have always believed that Caylee's murder was premeditated based on the fact that she was getting old enough to verbalize what was going on and could blow Casey's world apart. I don't believe it was a rage killing so the fight (whether it occurred or not) is not that important to me. What puzzles me, is that Caylee's advancing age and verbal skills is such an obvious motive, why has it never been mentioned anywhere??

I'm with you on this cuteascanbe....anyone else notice in several of these new photos of Caylee....glassy-eyed, swollen, red circles around her eyes, even more bruising, etc? Some of them totally creeped me out.

She looked drained to me.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 05, 2009, 04:35:53 AM
I tried listening to Cindy...can't be done. Anyone braver than me have highlights if there are any?

Haven't been able to do it myself. (Listen to it.)

If I have the stomach to do it tomorrow, I'll post my notes here if no one else has by then.

Nice to see you, Cuteascanbe.

Me either!   If I listen to Cindy for more than a few seconds I have this overwhelming urge to slap someone, so I refrain.. ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 05, 2009, 07:07:34 AM
(http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo175/Kia31/Morning/goodMorningbunny.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: QuietMonkey on September 05, 2009, 07:38:58 AM
 :sunny: Just a quick Good Morning to all Monkeys! Also, Hi BOO! It's good to see you up there in the rafters!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: QuietMonkey on September 05, 2009, 07:41:05 AM
 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

P.S. Boo, I forgot to say I hope you come on down.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 05, 2009, 08:03:42 AM
I have always believed that Caylee's murder was premeditated based on the fact that she was getting old enough to verbalize what was going on and could blow Casey's world apart. I don't believe it was a rage killing so the fight (whether it occurred or not) is not that important to me. What puzzles me, is that Caylee's advancing age and verbal skills is such an obvious motive, why has it never been mentioned anywhere??

I'm with you on this cuteascanbe....anyone else notice in several of these new photos of Caylee....glassy-eyed, swollen, red circles around her eyes, even more bruising, etc? Some of them totally creeped me out.

She looked drained to me.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I think so too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 05, 2009, 08:08:26 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/9/4/new_casey_anthony_evidence.html
 Bounty Hunter: Casey Said Nanny Told Her To Lie To Cops
Saturday, September 05, 2009 12:41:42 AM
Reported By Kelli Cook, Jacqueline Fell and Scott Harris

ORLANDO -- The state attorney’s office released new evidence Friday in the Case Against Casey Anthony.

The new documents include three hours of audio and video recordings, as well as some additional photos.
Casey's Demeanor

Tracy McLaughlin, an associate of Leonard Padilla's, recalled in an interview with authorities the first time she met Casey, which was on the day she was released from jail on bond. McLaughlin's job was to observe Casey.

"I'm a little bit nervous to meet her because I'm thinking that poor gal," McLaughlin said. "She's gotta be upset. She comes in happy as can be. 'Hey!" 'Hi' gives me a big hug and just , 'oh I want to take a shower' and not a word about Caylee."
<snipped>


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 05, 2009, 08:11:15 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/20723700/detail.html
osted: 9:19 am EDT September 4, 2009Updated: 11:30 pm EDT September 4, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- They're the interviews Casey Anthony's defense team did not want you to hear. Bounty hunter Leonard Padilla and his band of bodyguards were with Casey 24 hours a day after she bonded out of jail the first time and now they're recalling everything she said.
<snipped>


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 05, 2009, 08:14:14 AM
 ::MonkeyJnBox::   Good Morning Monkeys


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cherjers on September 05, 2009, 08:21:11 AM
GOOD MORNING
Don't know if this has been posted-Tony P showed up on Web S to answer some questions.  He is on the Tracey tapes.   I think he showed up on page 12. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 05, 2009, 08:35:03 AM
Thanks Cherjers,I'm gonna check it out.   ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: QuietMonkey on September 05, 2009, 09:01:47 AM
Okay, at the risk of sounding like a prude - why all the off topic posts on a huge document day?  Why not discuss findings?  Food, and icons, dolce and blogs and inside jokes and only a handful of topic posts for over 20 pages. 



Hi ANJ, you are not a prude! I apologize for contributing to all the OT stuff. Not sure why it happened, maybe just cause it was the end of the cage? Regardless, you do have a good point, and again I'm sorry for being part of the problem. I understand that not everyone appreciates the joking around that sometimes goes on, especially in a discussion thread, and having to scroll through all of it. I don't post so much here anymore cause I know I tend to get OT.  I came to SM because of Caylee, so I still come here almost everyday. I will try to be more concious of what I'm posting here in the Caylee thread, and not to get carried away with my smilies and stuff! You're a good monkey ANJ, and I enjoy your contribution to SM!  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cherjers on September 05, 2009, 09:08:19 AM
Okay, at the risk of sounding like a prude - why all the off topic posts on a huge document day?  Why not discuss findings?  Food, and icons, dolce and blogs and inside jokes and only a handful of topic posts for over 20 pages. 


couldn't tell ya...maybe just giddiness?   ::MonkeyBike:: ::MonkeyCheer2:: ::MonkeyCheer4::
Its Labor day-maybe  everyone is taking a break form work-and believe me its work trying to keep up with the ants ::MonkeyTease::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cherjers on September 05, 2009, 09:12:22 AM
Good Night to all you Monks who are heading outta here!!

ShariVari - GOOD TO SEE YOU back in the cage.

QM - thanks for all the smileys you find and post!

cece - It would not surprise me to learn that Tracy did write letters and/or send money. I think she did  become fond of kc and the A's except for Lee, in some fashion.  I keep reminding myself that these interviews were not given under oath. Tracy REFUSED to speak to LE without being given immunity and her attorney was with her. WHY? IMO She knows a lot more than what was on these tapes. I do think, at times, she might have felt like she was in the twilight zone and that kc's constant chattering got on her nerves....but she isn't off the hook with me yet. ::MonkeyNoNo::  JMO of course!!

Yes, the immunity demand bothers me a lot.   What is going on there that she does not want to speak freely about without some protection from the Law.  Can NO-ONE in this whole damn mess just speak the truth as they know it?
  NO!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cherjers on September 05, 2009, 09:21:43 AM
Did Lenny say Lee lied about paying for the pizza- I thought I heard that-but please say it isn't true. ::MonkeyWaa::  Maybe thats why Lee needs immunity   he lied about pizza ::MonkeyDevil::  Caylee is misssing they are eating pizza and they lie about who paid for it.  What is with these people- they all belong in a nut house(no offense to the mentally ill) the ants are in a class of their own-they belong in a ward all my themselves.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: monkalicious on September 05, 2009, 09:24:23 AM
I'm just (FINALLY) listening to Leonard.  I have to giggle every time he says
"Or-Lawn-Do".  I find him interesting in his descriptions.  My all time favorite is when he describes Cindy as sniveling, and then Casey starts sniveling, and then they snivel together.  But beyond his good ol' boy exterior, I believe he is smart as a tack.  The  one thing I take away from his and Tracy's interviews is that even though the Anthonys as a group try to blame everyone else for all their troubles, L & T both realize that all the original lies stem from Casey.  These interviews are extremely damaging for all of them. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 05, 2009, 09:32:50 AM
Hello. I don't say much but read here and really take to heart all the great comments.  After listening to all the docs today I have come to the conclusion that the defense/family believes if they create SO MUCH chaos, that Kc will walk, wether mistrial or whatever, like that was the plan from the very beginning.


I have wondered this myself ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 05, 2009, 09:38:40 AM
::MonkeyJnBox::   Good Morning Monkeys

Roll Tide Trimm !   ::MonkeyFootball::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 10:09:19 AM
Morning Monkeys.

Can some smart monkey help me with a date please?

Does anyone know the date of when KC called the cops on the protestors? TIA JSM










































Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 05, 2009, 10:11:51 AM
Okay, at the risk of sounding like a prude - why all the off topic posts on a huge document day?  Why not discuss findings?  Food, and icons, dolce and blogs and inside jokes and only a handful of topic posts for over 20 pages. 



I was a little perturbed myself ANJ, until I listened to about 50% of Cindy's interview........and then I understood.....
 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 05, 2009, 10:12:28 AM
I just googled it and it comes up as Sept 18th 2008.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 05, 2009, 10:15:17 AM
joesamas mama....IIRC, Sept 18th


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Stacey on September 05, 2009, 10:15:41 AM
Hello Monkeys

I listened to Tracey's tapes and I think I got cut off at the end. Did she ever say casey said to her THEY HAVEN'T EVEN FOUND HER CLOTHS YET. If I remember right LP said she did

Monkey hugs


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 10:16:07 AM
Hello. I don't say much but read here and really take to heart all the great comments.  After listening to all the docs today I have come to the conclusion that the defense/family believes if they create SO MUCH chaos, that Kc will walk, wether mistrial or whatever, like that was the plan from the very beginning.

Now that is a great thought, and you know what, that is probably what has been going on, or at least it would make sense the actions of this crazy family. Chaos, chaos, reasonable doubt, reasoable doubt.


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Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 05, 2009, 10:16:57 AM
I just googled it and it comes up as Sept 18th 2008.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHJIFYUBeEs&feature=PlayList&p=C3C51FE4C3D6542C&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=14


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 10:17:06 AM
GOOD MORNING
Don't know if this has been posted-Tony P showed up on Web S to answer some questions.  He is on the Tracey tapes.   I think he showed up on page 12. 
Away I go and thanks  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 05, 2009, 10:20:39 AM
Hello Monkeys

I listened to Tracey's tapes and I think I got cut off at the end. Did she ever say casey said to her THEY HAVEN'T EVEN FOUND HER CLOTHS YET. If I remember right LP said she did

Monkey hugs

I know it is in Rob Dick's interview too. I think he said Casey said "they haven't even found the clothes Caylee was wearing that day"........Rob was questioning Casey about the "Blanchard Park" tale. He asked her if Casey had taken a bag of clothes, etc to leave with Zenaida for Caylee.


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Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 10:23:43 AM
I just googled it and it comes up as Sept 18th 2008.
Thank you. WO.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 10:24:26 AM
 While I just went over to WS, to see what T Padilla said there yesterday, I got distracted with this, I know it what mentioned yesterday, but now there is proof I guess. ( Fox 35's 6PM newscast just had a live report from Holly B, at the end of it she said that they checked jail records and Tracy has sent letters to Casey and also money for her jail account!!!???)    Okay, that doesn't look good, one can spin all day if they like, but her sending money to Casey, can be brought up by the defense, see Casey is a nice, sweet girl, even the woman that watched her in the house for 9 days really likes her.  I wish she would not have done this  ::MonkeyNoNo::


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Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 10:25:17 AM
joesamas mama....IIRC, Sept 18th
Thanks Seeme. I couldn't remember if it was before or after LP had left. So it was after.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on September 05, 2009, 10:26:25 AM
JSM,it was Sept.18 when Casey called 911.
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/9/18/ocsd_releases_casey_anthonys_911_protester_call.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 05, 2009, 10:28:35 AM
Okay, at the risk of sounding like a prude - why all the off topic posts on a huge document day?  Why not discuss findings?  Food, and icons, dolce and blogs and inside jokes and only a handful of topic posts for over 20 pages. 



I was a little perturbed myself ANJ, until I listened to about 50% of Cindy's interview........and then I understood.....
 ::MonkeyJnBox::

I'm not even gonna try and listen again.did you listen to all of LP interview?I'm fixing to try and listen to that.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on September 05, 2009, 10:32:14 AM
Casey Anthony: WKMG estimates how close family private eye came to Caylee's remains
posted by halboedeker on Sep 5, 2009 7:52:05 AM
<snipped>
WKMG-Channel 6 looked into Dominic Casey's efforts to find the toddler over two days in November last year. A month later, a meter reader discovered the child's remains.

Why did the private eye fall short? "Perhaps because the search wasn't thorough," WKMG's Louis Bolden said. "Perhaps because he searched the wrong area."

Looking back at video of the private eye's search, Bolden estimated that Dominic Casey was nearly 345 feet from the path to Caylee's remains on one day last November. The next day, the private eye was about 60 feet from the remains, Bolden said.

And what did Casey Anthony say about her legal troubles? She talked about looking forward to a mistrial or a change of venue, but apparently said nothing about being acquitted, WFTV-Channel 9's Kathi Belich said.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-was-looking-for-a-mistrial-or-change-of-venue-witness.html


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Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 05, 2009, 10:33:37 AM
While I just went over to WS, to see what T Padilla said there yesterday, I got distracted with this, I know it what mentioned yesterday, but now there is proof I guess. ( Fox 35's 6PM newscast just had a live report from Holly B, at the end of it she said that they checked jail records and Tracy has sent letters to Casey and also money for her jail account!!!???)    Okay, that doesn't look good, one can spin all day if they like, but her sending money to Casey, can be brought up by the defense, see Casey is a nice, sweet girl, even the woman that watched her in the house for 9 days really likes her.  I wish she would not have done this  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Not excusing Tracy at all, but 9 days with Casey would cause anyone's brain, mental stability, moral compass, etc to DIsComBobUlatE......I am wondering if Tracy needed mental health treatment upon returning to California. ::MonkeyDevil::


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 10:37:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pink Panther 
Tracy's interviews make it clear that something is not right in Anthonyville - most specifically, that KC was not particularly concerned about her daughter's well-being - rather that she wasn't at all concerned and that the rest of the family preferred to "play along" as though nothing had happened. The information she provides is very important...I just wish that she had presented it without her constant haha-snicker as though she were telling a tale that she had witnessed on some stupid tv program. Her constant half-laugh-half-snicker makes her sound a bit stupid and her credibility deserves much more.

MOO

Nothing personal towards Tracy but I agree. It just seems less credible. I am sure you will hear more about Tracy in the upcoming days or weeks. 
(The response is from Tony Padilla from WS last night, and I agree, that laughing just was stupid and inappropriate, she needs to be more credible, imo)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 05, 2009, 10:39:12 AM
Okay, at the risk of sounding like a prude - why all the off topic posts on a huge document day?  Why not discuss findings?  Food, and icons, dolce and blogs and inside jokes and only a handful of topic posts for over 20 pages. 



I was a little perturbed myself ANJ, until I listened to about 50% of Cindy's interview........and then I understood.....
 ::MonkeyJnBox::

I'm not even gonna try and listen again.did you listen to all of LP interview?I'm fixing to try and listen to that.

Yes trimm, I did, but only after a 2 hour nap.......Cindy's, (how can I explain it?) UNGLUED me!! Seriously, I couldn't connect 2 thoughts together after Spindy's. ::MonkeyConfused::


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Post by: cece on September 05, 2009, 10:39:29 AM
Good Night to all you Monks who are heading outta here!!

ShariVari - GOOD TO SEE YOU back in the cage.

QM - thanks for all the smileys you find and post!

cece - It would not surprise me to learn that Tracy did write letters and/or send money. I think she did  become fond of kc and the A's except for Lee, in some fashion.  I keep reminding myself that these interviews were not given under oath. Tracy REFUSED to speak to LE without being given immunity and her attorney was with her. WHY? IMO She knows a lot more than what was on these tapes. I do think, at times, she might have felt like she was in the twilight zone and that kc's constant chattering got on her nerves....but she isn't off the hook with me yet. ::MonkeyNoNo::  JMO of course!!

Thank you Sunny.  I'm still on the fence about Tracy also.  I think in some ways she may have bonded with or had some sympathy for Casey to some extent.  She may have witnessed the dynamics of this dysfunctional (to put it mildly) family and felt some sympathy?  I also get the feeling she may be holding back something.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 10:48:57 AM
Good Night to all you Monks who are heading outta here!!

ShariVari - GOOD TO SEE YOU back in the cage.

QM - thanks for all the smileys you find and post!

cece - It would not surprise me to learn that Tracy did write letters and/or send money. I think she did  become fond of kc and the A's except for Lee, in some fashion.  I keep reminding myself that these interviews were not given under oath. Tracy REFUSED to speak to LE without being given immunity and her attorney was with her. WHY? IMO She knows a lot more than what was on these tapes. I do think, at times, she might have felt like she was in the twilight zone and that kc's constant chattering got on her nerves....but she isn't off the hook with me yet. ::MonkeyNoNo::  JMO of course!!

Thank you Sunny.  I'm still on the fence about Tracy also.  I think in some ways she may have bonded with or had some sympathy for Casey to some extent.  She may have witnessed the dynamics of this dysfunctional (to put it mildly) family and felt some sympathy?  I also get the feeling she may be holding back something.

I'm with the both of you, something is off, don't know yet, but something else to bug me for days  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 05, 2009, 10:59:01 AM
While I just went over to WS, to see what T Padilla said there yesterday, I got distracted with this, I know it what mentioned yesterday, but now there is proof I guess. ( Fox 35's 6PM newscast just had a live report from Holly B, at the end of it she said that they checked jail records and Tracy has sent letters to Casey and also money for her jail account!!!???)    Okay, that doesn't look good, one can spin all day if they like, but her sending money to Casey, can be brought up by the defense, see Casey is a nice, sweet girl, even the woman that watched her in the house for 9 days really likes her.  I wish she would not have done this  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thank you NoRose!  I was hoping someone else could verify that info.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Oh, and a very Good Saturday Morning to All!

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Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 11:02:07 AM
Have a good weekend cece, and everyone  ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: cece on September 05, 2009, 11:06:30 AM
Have a good weekend cece, and everyone  ::MonkeyCool::

Thanks NoRose!  I'm off to listen to Rob.   ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: cherjers on September 05, 2009, 11:22:50 AM
While I just went over to WS, to see what T Padilla said there yesterday, I got distracted with this, I know it what mentioned yesterday, but now there is proof I guess. ( Fox 35's 6PM newscast just had a live report from Holly B, at the end of it she said that they checked jail records and Tracy has sent letters to Casey and also money for her jail account!!!???)    Okay, that doesn't look good, one can spin all day if they like, but her sending money to Casey, can be brought up by the defense, see Casey is a nice, sweet girl, even the woman that watched her in the house for 9 days really likes her.  I wish she would not have done this  ::MonkeyNoNo::
  Is insanity contagious      -because everyone that is the ants company come down with a case of the Cazzie's


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 11:31:14 AM
I just finished Rob's interview. Very insightful, especially about Lee's big lie.

Listening to these interviews make me hate KC and the Anthony's even more.  ::MonkeyDevil::

Now do I dare listen to Cindy?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 05, 2009, 11:40:36 AM
Hello Monkeys

I listened to Tracey's tapes and I think I got cut off at the end. Did she ever say casey said to her THEY HAVEN'T EVEN FOUND HER CLOTHS YET. If I remember right LP said she did

Monkey hugs

Rob Dick, [ re: some of Casey's remarks ] in his taped interview: Casey said "They haven't even found the clothes she was wearing yet ..... "


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: karenmamo on September 05, 2009, 11:43:21 AM
I have always believed that Caylee's murder was premeditated based on the fact that she was getting old enough to verbalize what was going on and could blow Casey's world apart. I don't believe it was a rage killing so the fight (whether it occurred or not) is not that important to me. What puzzles me, is that Caylee's advancing age and verbal skills is such an obvious motive, why has it never been mentioned anywhere??

Cute, I have mentioned that on this and another board. I always felt Caylee spilled even more on that trip home from Mt. Dora. Felt this from the time we learned about that trip.
I was living in a similar situation about 19 years ago. Daughter and granddaughter living in my home.I spent more alone time with my gd than anyone else....she always chattered to me. She would come out with the dangest things.
I believe this happened between Cindy and Caylee.
As to why it has not been addressed, I don't know if it has or not.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 11:43:36 AM
While I just went over to WS, to see what T Padilla said there yesterday, I got distracted with this, I know it what mentioned yesterday, but now there is proof I guess. ( Fox 35's 6PM newscast just had a live report from Holly B, at the end of it she said that they checked jail records and Tracy has sent letters to Casey and also money for her jail account!!!???)    Okay, that doesn't look good, one can spin all day if they like, but her sending money to Casey, can be brought up by the defense, see Casey is a nice, sweet girl, even the woman that watched her in the house for 9 days really likes her.  I wish she would not have done this  ::MonkeyNoNo::
  Is insanity contagious      -because everyone that is the ants company come down with a case of the Cazzie's
I didn't ever think so, but I'm starting to think it just may be contagious ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 05, 2009, 11:45:01 AM
Hello. I don't say much but read here and really take to heart all the great comments.  After listening to all the docs today I have come to the conclusion that the defense/family believes if they create SO MUCH chaos, that Kc will walk, wether mistrial or whatever, like that was the plan from the very beginning.

Now that is a great thought, and you know what, that is probably what has been going on, or at least it would make sense the actions of this crazy family. Chaos, chaos, reasonable doubt, reasoable doubt.

The Anthonys had 30 days to plan their tactics, if you think about it.  Maybe the public has really witnessed their playbook --  instead of nitwits who live in an alternate universe ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 05, 2009, 11:47:22 AM
While I just went over to WS, to see what T Padilla said there yesterday, I got distracted with this, I know it what mentioned yesterday, but now there is proof I guess. ( Fox 35's 6PM newscast just had a live report from Holly B, at the end of it she said that they checked jail records and Tracy has sent letters to Casey and also money for her jail account!!!???)    Okay, that doesn't look good, one can spin all day if they like, but her sending money to Casey, can be brought up by the defense, see Casey is a nice, sweet girl, even the woman that watched her in the house for 9 days really likes her.  I wish she would not have done this  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yesterday some wise ******* said: "Stockholm syndrome in reverse."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 05, 2009, 11:49:34 AM
Okay, at the risk of sounding like a prude - why all the off topic posts on a huge document day?  Why not discuss findings?  Food, and icons, dolce and blogs and inside jokes and only a handful of topic posts for over 20 pages. 



I was a little perturbed myself ANJ, until I listened to about 50% of Cindy's interview........and then I understood.....
 ::MonkeyJnBox::

I'm not even gonna try and listen again.did you listen to all of LP interview?I'm fixing to try and listen to that.

Rob Dick's interview is the smoothest of the three.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: karenmamo on September 05, 2009, 11:53:19 AM
While I just went over to WS, to see what T Padilla said there yesterday, I got distracted with this, I know it what mentioned yesterday, but now there is proof I guess. ( Fox 35's 6PM newscast just had a live report from Holly B, at the end of it she said that they checked jail records and Tracy has sent letters to Casey and also money for her jail account!!!???)    Okay, that doesn't look good, one can spin all day if they like, but her sending money to Casey, can be brought up by the defense, see Casey is a nice, sweet girl, even the woman that watched her in the house for 9 days really likes her.  I wish she would not have done this  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Pondering this...I am not too concerned.Baez could call her to the stand..?..but, lenny and rob's testimony will seal it for Casey.
I am also sorry she did this... ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on September 05, 2009, 11:58:29 AM
It doesn't sound like anyone in that house was looking for Caylee.
Item number one on the list of things to do.
Why was the family walking on eggshells around her ? Except for the outburst from George, they all acted like everything was normal. Well, as normal as they could be under the Ant circus tent.
Cindy went on one of the networks and said It's going to take all of America to find Caylee. I think she was shilling for money.
   


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Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 12:00:23 PM
It doesn't sound like anyone in that house was looking for Caylee.
Item number one on the list of things to do.
Why was the family walking on eggshells around her ? Except for the outburst from George, they all acted like everything was normal. Well, as normal as they could be under the Ant circus tent.
Cindy went on one of the networks and said It's going to take all of America to find Caylee. I think she was shilling for money.
   
ITA Katgram, Listening to LP, Rob and Tracy, they seem to be the only people wanting to find Caylee. The Ants definitely didn't do anything to find her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 05, 2009, 12:03:53 PM
While I just went over to WS, to see what T Padilla said there yesterday, I got distracted with this, I know it what mentioned yesterday, but now there is proof I guess. ( Fox 35's 6PM newscast just had a live report from Holly B, at the end of it she said that they checked jail records and Tracy has sent letters to Casey and also money for her jail account!!!???)    Okay, that doesn't look good, one can spin all day if they like, but her sending money to Casey, can be brought up by the defense, see Casey is a nice, sweet girl, even the woman that watched her in the house for 9 days really likes her.  I wish she would not have done this  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Pondering this...I am not too concerned.Baez could call her to the stand..?..but, lenny and rob's testimony will seal it for Casey.
I am also sorry she did this... ::MonkeyConfused::

Completely unprofessional of Tracy to get entangled with the person she was supposed to be working with.   She should have kept a respectable distance, but she is not the first to get duped by this sociopath ..     and it is characteristic that lots of them are charmers.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 05, 2009, 12:06:58 PM
It doesn't sound like anyone in that house was looking for Caylee.
Item number one on the list of things to do.
Why was the family walking on eggshells around her ? Except for the outburst from George, they all acted like everything was normal. Well, as normal as they could be under the Ant circus tent.
Cindy went on one of the networks and said It's going to take all of America to find Caylee. I think she was shilling for money.
   

One could look at that outburst of his and conclude he was deliberately throwing the other three under the bus to save himself as surely he instinctively knew he was being overheard.  George is " a person who knows a lot about a lot of things ....."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 05, 2009, 12:13:50 PM
While I just went over to WS, to see what T Padilla said there yesterday, I got distracted with this, I know it what mentioned yesterday, but now there is proof I guess. ( Fox 35's 6PM newscast just had a live report from Holly B, at the end of it she said that they checked jail records and Tracy has sent letters to Casey and also money for her jail account!!!???)    Okay, that doesn't look good, one can spin all day if they like, but her sending money to Casey, can be brought up by the defense, see Casey is a nice, sweet girl, even the woman that watched her in the house for 9 days really likes her.  I wish she would not have done this  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Good Morning Monks old and new!  I said last night that this would not surprise me. Tracy somewhat bonded with not only kc, but the A's. How? I have no idea!!  I really want top hear testimony from her under oath, on the stand, and answering the prosecutors questions.  IMO nothing she said in this interview warranted DEMANDING immunity BEFORE agreeing to talk to the LE. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 05, 2009, 12:17:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pink Panther 
Tracy's interviews make it clear that something is not right in Anthonyville - most specifically, that KC was not particularly concerned about her daughter's well-being - rather that she wasn't at all concerned and that the rest of the family preferred to "play along" as though nothing had happened. The information she provides is very important...I just wish that she had presented it without her constant haha-snicker as though she were telling a tale that she had witnessed on some stupid tv program. Her constant half-laugh-half-snicker makes her sound a bit stupid and her credibility deserves much more.

MOO

Nothing personal towards Tracy but I agree. It just seems less credible. I am sure you will hear more about Tracy in the upcoming days or weeks. 
(The response is from Tony Padilla from WS last night, and I agree, that laughing just was stupid and inappropriate, she needs to be more credible, imo)

Morning nrcg.....I read this and all of TP's responses and he is IMO full of himself...LOL...betcha thought I was gonna say (xhit ::MonkeyTongue::).  I am interested in his statement that LP talks to BOZO almost every day??? And I plan to ask LP if this is true?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: zoeandme on September 05, 2009, 12:18:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pink Panther 
Tracy's interviews make it clear that something is not right in Anthonyville - most specifically, that KC was not particularly concerned about her daughter's well-being - rather that she wasn't at all concerned and that the rest of the family preferred to "play along" as though nothing had happened. The information she provides is very important...I just wish that she had presented it without her constant haha-snicker as though she were telling a tale that she had witnessed on some stupid tv program. Her constant half-laugh-half-snicker makes her sound a bit stupid and her credibility deserves much more.

MOO

Nothing personal towards Tracy but I agree. It just seems less credible. I am sure you will hear more about Tracy in the upcoming days or weeks. 
(The response is from Tony Padilla from WS last night, and I agree, that laughing just was stupid and inappropriate, she needs to be more credible, imo)


Yes, I agree. I only made it thru half on her part 1 interview b/c of the stupid giggling!  She does it after every statement she makes!  What the hell is so da*n funny??!  Its unprofessional and inappropriate, but maybe KC made her looney.  Who knows with this bunch?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 12:19:57 PM
While I just went over to WS, to see what T Padilla said there yesterday, I got distracted with this, I know it what mentioned yesterday, but now there is proof I guess. ( Fox 35's 6PM newscast just had a live report from Holly B, at the end of it she said that they checked jail records and Tracy has sent letters to Casey and also money for her jail account!!!???)    Okay, that doesn't look good, one can spin all day if they like, but her sending money to Casey, can be brought up by the defense, see Casey is a nice, sweet girl, even the woman that watched her in the house for 9 days really likes her.  I wish she would not have done this  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yesterday some wise ******* said: "Stockholm syndrome in reverse."
   ::MonkeyRoll:: Oh for Heaven's sake, 9 days she was with her, if she couldn't have handled that, they should have gotten someone who could.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 05, 2009, 12:20:00 PM
Good Night to all you Monks who are heading outta here!!

ShariVari - GOOD TO SEE YOU back in the cage.

QM - thanks for all the smileys you find and post!

cece - It would not surprise me to learn that Tracy did write letters and/or send money. I think she did  become fond of kc and the A's except for Lee, in some fashion.  I keep reminding myself that these interviews were not given under oath. Tracy REFUSED to speak to LE without being given immunity and her attorney was with her. WHY? IMO She knows a lot more than what was on these tapes. I do think, at times, she might have felt like she was in the twilight zone and that kc's constant chattering got on her nerves....but she isn't off the hook with me yet. ::MonkeyNoNo::  JMO of course!!

Thank you Sunny.  I'm still on the fence about Tracy also.  I think in some ways she may have bonded with or had some sympathy for Casey to some extent.  She may have witnessed the dynamics of this dysfunctional (to put it mildly) family and felt some sympathy?  I also get the feeling she may be holding back something.


Morning cece....I am going to have to go back to the beginning of Tracy's interview and see what her qualifications are.  I didn't write it down....gggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr  I wonder if she has ever done anything like this before. She often said in her interview I didn't ask this or that....even a follow thru kinda question.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Jesse on September 05, 2009, 12:21:33 PM
I wonder if Tracy every did get immunity for her testimony....and if they get her on the stand, she would have to spill whatever else she knows that made her ask for immunity in the first place...i am also disturbed that she sent Casey money. Apparently Casey is expert at winning people over, but how could Tracy get past the fact that she never mentioned Caylee nor tried to find her but was more interested in her celebrity status


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 05, 2009, 12:21:43 PM
While I just went over to WS, to see what T Padilla said there yesterday, I got distracted with this, I know it what mentioned yesterday, but now there is proof I guess. ( Fox 35's 6PM newscast just had a live report from Holly B, at the end of it she said that they checked jail records and Tracy has sent letters to Casey and also money for her jail account!!!???)    Okay, that doesn't look good, one can spin all day if they like, but her sending money to Casey, can be brought up by the defense, see Casey is a nice, sweet girl, even the woman that watched her in the house for 9 days really likes her.  I wish she would not have done this  ::MonkeyNoNo::
  Is insanity contagious      -because everyone that is the ants company come down with a case of the Cazzie's


You know it might be.....it sure seems so with this group!! ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 12:21:57 PM
It doesn't sound like anyone in that house was looking for Caylee.
Item number one on the list of things to do.
Why was the family walking on eggshells around her ? Except for the outburst from George, they all acted like everything was normal. Well, as normal as they could be under the Ant circus tent.
Cindy went on one of the networks and said It's going to take all of America to find Caylee. I think she was shilling for money.
   
Sounds like Casey and Tracey were having a long slumber party, Cindy was busy cooking, George was angry and would leave and go who knows where, and Lee, well he was just being Lee  ::MonkeyRoll::


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 12:24:24 PM
While I just went over to WS, to see what T Padilla said there yesterday, I got distracted with this, I know it what mentioned yesterday, but now there is proof I guess. ( Fox 35's 6PM newscast just had a live report from Holly B, at the end of it she said that they checked jail records and Tracy has sent letters to Casey and also money for her jail account!!!???)    Okay, that doesn't look good, one can spin all day if they like, but her sending money to Casey, can be brought up by the defense, see Casey is a nice, sweet girl, even the woman that watched her in the house for 9 days really likes her.  I wish she would not have done this  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Good Morning Monks old and new!  I said last night that this would not surprise me. Tracy somewhat bonded with not only kc, but the A's. How? I have no idea!!  I really want top hear testimony from her under oath, on the stand, and answering the prosecutors questions.  IMO nothing she said in this interview warranted DEMANDING immunity BEFORE agreeing to talk to the LE. ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree, why would she have demanded immunity? It's sounds like Casey and Tracy did everything short of a pillow fight and making fudge, and I won't be surprised if they did that too  ::MonkeyRoll::


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Post by: SunnyinTX on September 05, 2009, 12:26:11 PM
I wonder if Tracy every did get immunity for her testimony....and if they get her on the stand, she would have to spill whatever else she knows that made her ask for immunity in the first place...i am also disturbed that she sent Casey money. Apparently Casey is expert at winning people over, but how could Tracy get past the fact that she never mentioned Caylee nor tried to find her but was more interested in her celebrity status

she has a son near kc's age.....I think she went soft!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 12:26:14 PM
Tony Padilla 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pink Panther 
Tracy's interviews make it clear that something is not right in Anthonyville - most specifically, that KC was not particularly concerned about her daughter's well-being - rather that she wasn't at all concerned and that the rest of the family preferred to "play along" as though nothing had happened. The information she provides is very important...I just wish that she had presented it without her constant haha-snicker as though she were telling a tale that she had witnessed on some stupid tv program. Her constant half-laugh-half-snicker makes her sound a bit stupid and her credibility deserves much more.

MOO

Nothing personal towards Tracy but I agree. It just seems less credible. I am sure you will hear more about Tracy in the upcoming days or weeks. 
(The response is from Tony Padilla from WS last night, and I agree, that laughing just was stupid and inappropriate, she needs to be more credible, imo)

Morning nrcg.....I read this and all of TP's responses and he is IMO full of himself...LOL...betcha thought I was gonna say (xhit ::MonkeyTongue::).  I am interested in his statement that LP talks to BOZO almost every day??? And I plan to ask LP if this is true?
  ::MonkeyTongue:: I want to know also, maybe LP and Bozo became friends, he!! it sounds like everyone is friends, the Anthonys must be pretty charming when entertaining guests  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 05, 2009, 12:26:15 PM
While I just went over to WS, to see what T Padilla said there yesterday, I got distracted with this, I know it what mentioned yesterday, but now there is proof I guess. ( Fox 35's 6PM newscast just had a live report from Holly B, at the end of it she said that they checked jail records and Tracy has sent letters to Casey and also money for her jail account!!!???)    Okay, that doesn't look good, one can spin all day if they like, but her sending money to Casey, can be brought up by the defense, see Casey is a nice, sweet girl, even the woman that watched her in the house for 9 days really likes her.  I wish she would not have done this  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yesterday some wise ******* said: "Stockholm syndrome in reverse."
   ::MonkeyRoll:: Oh for Heaven's sake, 9 days she was with her, if she couldn't have handled that, they should have gotten someone who could.

Good point.


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Post by: SunnyinTX on September 05, 2009, 12:27:52 PM
While I just went over to WS, to see what T Padilla said there yesterday, I got distracted with this, I know it what mentioned yesterday, but now there is proof I guess. ( Fox 35's 6PM newscast just had a live report from Holly B, at the end of it she said that they checked jail records and Tracy has sent letters to Casey and also money for her jail account!!!???)    Okay, that doesn't look good, one can spin all day if they like, but her sending money to Casey, can be brought up by the defense, see Casey is a nice, sweet girl, even the woman that watched her in the house for 9 days really likes her.  I wish she would not have done this  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Good Morning Monks old and new!  I said last night that this would not surprise me. Tracy somewhat bonded with not only kc, but the A's. How? I have no idea!!  I really want top hear testimony from her under oath, on the stand, and answering the prosecutors questions.  IMO nothing she said in this interview warranted DEMANDING immunity BEFORE agreeing to talk to the LE. ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree, why would she have demanded immunity? It's sounds like Casey and Tracy did everything short of a pillow fight and making fudge, and I won't be surprised if they did that too  ::MonkeyRoll::

me neither....why was she allowing kc to pick HER clothes?  I am beginning to wonder just WHY was she there??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 12:28:30 PM
I wonder if Tracy every did get immunity for her testimony....and if they get her on the stand, she would have to spill whatever else she knows that made her ask for immunity in the first place...i am also disturbed that she sent Casey money. Apparently Casey is expert at winning people over, but how could Tracy get past the fact that she never mentioned Caylee nor tried to find her but was more interested in her celebrity status
   ::MonkeyConfused:: I don't know, but I sure hope if she takes the witness stand, she pops some magical pill that will stop the laughing and make her look professional.


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Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 12:30:33 PM
One more date question for you smart monkeys.

Does anyone know the date that George had the gun in his trunk?

In LP and RD's interviews, they both said that Jim and George wouldn't allow weapons, but yet Georgie goes out and gets a gun and leaves it in his trunk.

I wish I could remember timelines like you smart monkeys can.

TIA JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 12:30:49 PM
I wonder if Tracy every did get immunity for her testimony....and if they get her on the stand, she would have to spill whatever else she knows that made her ask for immunity in the first place...i am also disturbed that she sent Casey money. Apparently Casey is expert at winning people over, but how could Tracy get past the fact that she never mentioned Caylee nor tried to find her but was more interested in her celebrity status

she has a son near kc's age.....I think she went soft!
Could be, the son when Casey saw the pic of, she fell for him, she would fall for any guy that would look at her whether in person or in a picture.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 12:32:46 PM
While I just went over to WS, to see what T Padilla said there yesterday, I got distracted with this, I know it what mentioned yesterday, but now there is proof I guess. ( Fox 35's 6PM newscast just had a live report from Holly B, at the end of it she said that they checked jail records and Tracy has sent letters to Casey and also money for her jail account!!!???)    Okay, that doesn't look good, one can spin all day if they like, but her sending money to Casey, can be brought up by the defense, see Casey is a nice, sweet girl, even the woman that watched her in the house for 9 days really likes her.  I wish she would not have done this  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Good Morning Monks old and new!  I said last night that this would not surprise me. Tracy somewhat bonded with not only kc, but the A's. How? I have no idea!!  I really want top hear testimony from her under oath, on the stand, and answering the prosecutors questions.  IMO nothing she said in this interview warranted DEMANDING immunity BEFORE agreeing to talk to the LE. ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree, why would she have demanded immunity? It's sounds like Casey and Tracy did everything short of a pillow fight and making fudge, and I won't be surprised if they did that too  ::MonkeyRoll::

me neither....why was she allowing kc to pick HER clothes?  I am beginning to wonder just WHY was she there??
Something is way off on this, maybe she is going to write a book, My Nine Days With A Charming Murderess Who Is Actually Quite Nice  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BluesyGram on September 05, 2009, 12:34:09 PM
When I listened to Rob's tape, I think he said that Lee told him the reason why (per Lee's opinion) why KC did this to Caylee was that KC wanted a fresh start.  Did anyone else hear that?  Does that mean....'fresh start' as in with no child?   ::MonkeyWaa::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 05, 2009, 12:35:30 PM


Yep, the ladder..the shed, the dogs hitting in the back yard. 

It makes me think that George and Cindy really think they know how Caylee died and it has something to do with the pool/ladder. She was arrested on 7/16 and in jail. By 7/21 they are lying about the pool/ladder.
As far as the dogs hitting in the back yard, I think kc hosed herself off in the yard after dumping little Caylee in the muck, leaving trace evidence.

That kind of goes along with what I thought in the beginning....but that doesn't explain  the duct tape...I can't make the duct tape fit into a scenario with Caylee drowning in the pool.  But kc hosing off in the yard is certainly a possibility...although I have leaned towards sin-sin hosing things from kc's trunk off in the back yard.
Well I don't know if she drowned. Maybe the fight was really violent, things got thrown around. I just now think all three knew she was dead by June 16th.
I agree totally
Hi Monkeys


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 12:35:43 PM
While I just went over to WS, to see what T Padilla said there yesterday, I got distracted with this, I know it what mentioned yesterday, but now there is proof I guess. ( Fox 35's 6PM newscast just had a live report from Holly B, at the end of it she said that they checked jail records and Tracy has sent letters to Casey and also money for her jail account!!!???)    Okay, that doesn't look good, one can spin all day if they like, but her sending money to Casey, can be brought up by the defense, see Casey is a nice, sweet girl, even the woman that watched her in the house for 9 days really likes her.  I wish she would not have done this  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Good Morning Monks old and new!  I said last night that this would not surprise me. Tracy somewhat bonded with not only kc, but the A's. How? I have no idea!!  I really want top hear testimony from her under oath, on the stand, and answering the prosecutors questions.  IMO nothing she said in this interview warranted DEMANDING immunity BEFORE agreeing to talk to the LE. ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree, why would she have demanded immunity? It's sounds like Casey and Tracy did everything short of a pillow fight and making fudge, and I won't be surprised if they did that too  ::MonkeyRoll::

me neither....why was she allowing kc to pick HER clothes?  I am beginning to wonder just WHY was she there??
Hi Sunny, very good question. I thought she was there to protect KC, but now maybe she was trying to buddy up with KC to get info.  ::MonkeyConfused:: I am going to relisten to her (Tracy's) interview, all the giggling confused me last night. I am listening to Cindy right now and am totally confused about that tape.

Back to lurkdome.. ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 12:39:00 PM
When I listened to Rob's tape, I think he said that Lee told him the reason why (per Lee's opinion) why KC did this to Caylee was that KC wanted a fresh start.  Did anyone else hear that?  Does that mean....'fresh start' as in with no child?   ::MonkeyWaa::


I heard it bluesy and yes I think that is what he meant.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 12:40:10 PM
When I listened to Rob's tape, I think he said that Lee told him the reason why (per Lee's opinion) why KC did this to Caylee was that KC wanted a fresh start.  Did anyone else hear that?  Does that mean....'fresh start' as in with no child?   ::MonkeyWaa::


  ::MonkeyEek:: Wow, I missed that. A fresh start, go to college, move out of your parents home, rethink some past mistakes and make things right. Thank God the majority of people don't do what she did for a fresh start  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 05, 2009, 12:41:01 PM
I don't post much. Not much to say when it's all been said!! I wonder if the remark about Jose telling her to look sad about Caylee will be admissable in court. If I were on a jury, that remark would certainly give me pause. That along with the chloroform remark, the death band and the decomposition....Her reaction to all of this is just so Casey and for a jury should speak volumes..Unless of course they can find 12 of the stupidest people in Florida like they managed to do for the OJ trial...(of course, those jurors admitted that regardless of what was presented, they had no intention of convicting him)
Please can you or someone tell me what interview this was talked about?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 12:41:15 PM
When I listened to Rob's tape, I think he said that Lee told him the reason why (per Lee's opinion) why KC did this to Caylee was that KC wanted a fresh start.  Did anyone else hear that?  Does that mean....'fresh start' as in with no child?   ::MonkeyWaa::


I heard it bluesy and yes I think that is what he meant.  ::MonkeyWaa::
  ::MonkeyEek::  I'm going to have to listen again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 05, 2009, 12:42:47 PM
When I listened to Rob's tape, I think he said that Lee told him the reason why (per Lee's opinion) why KC did this to Caylee was that KC wanted a fresh start.  Did anyone else hear that?  Does that mean....'fresh start' as in with no child?   ::MonkeyWaa::



Yes, I wondered about that statement of Lee's also .... 

It certainly establishes, imo, that Lee knew Calyee had not been kidnapped !!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 12:44:20 PM
I don't post much. Not much to say when it's all been said!! I wonder if the remark about Jose telling her to look sad about Caylee will be admissable in court. If I were on a jury, that remark would certainly give me pause. That along with the chloroform remark, the death band and the decomposition....Her reaction to all of this is just so Casey and for a jury should speak volumes..Unless of course they can find 12 of the stupidest people in Florida like they managed to do for the OJ trial...(of course, those jurors admitted that regardless of what was presented, they had no intention of convicting him)
Please can you or someone tell me what interview this was talked about?
I think it was in Tracy's interview. He showed her a video of the Eisenbergs.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 12:45:28 PM
When I listened to Rob's tape, I think he said that Lee told him the reason why (per Lee's opinion) why KC did this to Caylee was that KC wanted a fresh start.  Did anyone else hear that?  Does that mean....'fresh start' as in with no child?   ::MonkeyWaa::




Yes, I wondered about that statement of Lee's also .... 

It certainly establishes, imo, that Lee knew Calyee had not been kidnapped !!
Yep, I think it was probably a slip of the tongue when Lee said it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BluesyGram on September 05, 2009, 12:46:07 PM
When I listened to Rob's tape, I think he said that Lee told him the reason why (per Lee's opinion) why KC did this to Caylee was that KC wanted a fresh start.  Did anyone else hear that?  Does that mean....'fresh start' as in with no child?   ::MonkeyWaa::


I heard it bluesy and yes I think that is what he meant.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thank you for responding JSM...needed someone to confirm what I thought I heard and drew the same conclusion.  So, guess that means that the Yo Yo, Sin Sin and Darth Vader 'understood' why she did it and was OK with it.  So sad.  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 12:47:52 PM
When I listened to Rob's tape, I think he said that Lee told him the reason why (per Lee's opinion) why KC did this to Caylee was that KC wanted a fresh start.  Did anyone else hear that?  Does that mean....'fresh start' as in with no child?   ::MonkeyWaa::


I heard it bluesy and yes I think that is what he meant.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thank you for responding JSM...needed someone to confirm what I thought I heard and drew the same conclusion.  So, guess that means that the Yo Yo, Sin Sin and Darth Vader 'understood' why she did it and was OK with it.  So sad.  
WTH  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 12:48:30 PM
One more st*pid question. Sorry to be such a bother.

Did Cindy know she was being taped by this Commander guy?

I am trying to listen to it, but the background noisy is driving me crazy.

TIA JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 12:50:01 PM
When I listened to Rob's tape, I think he said that Lee told him the reason why (per Lee's opinion) why KC did this to Caylee was that KC wanted a fresh start.  Did anyone else hear that?  Does that mean....'fresh start' as in with no child?   ::MonkeyWaa::


I heard it bluesy and yes I think that is what he meant.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thank you for responding JSM...needed someone to confirm what I thought I heard and drew the same conclusion.  So, guess that means that the Yo Yo, Sin Sin and Darth Vader 'understood' why she did it and was OK with it.  So sad.  
YVW. I'm not sure if CinCin or Porgie thought that at the time, but I believe Lee understood and knew what happened.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Jesse on September 05, 2009, 12:53:25 PM
actually the gun george had was found on friday, Sept 5th...of last year


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ddex on September 05, 2009, 12:54:14 PM
When I listened to Rob's tape, I think he said that Lee told him the reason why (per Lee's opinion) why KC did this to Caylee was that KC wanted a fresh start.  Did anyone else hear that?  Does that mean....'fresh start' as in with no child?   ::MonkeyWaa::


I heard it bluesy and yes I think that is what he meant.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Thank you for responding JSM...needed someone to confirm what I thought I heard and drew the same conclusion.  So, guess that means that the Yo Yo, Sin Sin and Darth Vader 'understood' why she did it and was OK with it.  So sad.  
WTH  ::MonkeyEek::
I guess I misunderstood. I took this to mean Lee was answering why KC AND Caylee "moved out".  EIther way he makes no sense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 05, 2009, 12:54:41 PM
I was very impressed with the lines of questioning on all three of the tapes.    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 12:55:59 PM
actually the gun george had was found on friday, Sept 5th...of last year
Thank you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BluesyGram on September 05, 2009, 01:03:09 PM
One more st*pid question. Sorry to be such a bother.

Did Cindy know she was being taped by this Commander guy?

I am trying to listen to it, but the background noisy is driving me crazy.

TIA JSM

I don't think she knew.  Usually they 'announce' at the beginning of the tape that they are taping and do you have a problem.  And I also noticed that she didn't shut up even with food in her mouth.  She was sure trying hard to get Yuri in trouble.  Too bad Sin..didn't work.

 ::MonkeySkate::  (Love your emotcon)


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Post by: Gizzie on September 05, 2009, 01:03:32 PM
Hi Sunny, very good question. I thought she was there to protect KC, but now maybe she was trying to buddy up with KC to get info.  ::MonkeyConfused:: I am going to relisten to her (Tracy's) interview, all the giggling confused me last night. I am listening to Cindy right now and am totally confused about that tape.

Back to lurkdome.. ::MonkeyBike::

That's what I think too. She was there to buddy up, as well as being there for the protection, or whatever.  ::MonkeyRoll:: MO



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cherjers on September 05, 2009, 01:08:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pink Panther 
Tracy's interviews make it clear that something is not right in Anthonyville - most specifically, that KC was not particularly concerned about her daughter's well-being - rather that she wasn't at all concerned and that the rest of the family preferred to "play along" as though nothing had happened. The information she provides is very important...I just wish that she had presented it without her constant haha-snicker as though she were telling a tale that she had witnessed on some stupid tv program. Her constant half-laugh-half-snicker makes her sound a bit stupid and her credibility deserves much more.

MOO

Nothing personal towards Tracy but I agree. It just seems less credible. I am sure you will hear more about Tracy in the upcoming days or weeks. 
(The response is from Tony Padilla from WS last night, and I agree, that laughing just was stupid and inappropriate, she needs to be more credible, imo)

Morning nrcg.....I read this and all of TP's responses and he is IMO full of himself...LOL...betcha thought I was gonna say (xhit ::MonkeyTongue::).  I am interested in his statement that LP talks to BOZO almost every day??? And I plan to ask LP if this is true?
  ::MonkeyTongue:: I want to know also, maybe LP and Bozo became friends, he!! it sounds like everyone is friends, the Anthonys must be pretty charming when entertaining guests  ::MonkeyDevil2::
Why would LP talk to BOZO everyday -I thought that they didn't even like each other  ::MonkeyConfused::.Well I heard the Ants throw great Piazza parties pizzas just keep coming.-and with cin cin Chile I guess they just charm the pants off of you ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 01:12:32 PM
One more st*pid question. Sorry to be such a bother.

Did Cindy know she was being taped by this Commander guy?

I am trying to listen to it, but the background noisy is driving me crazy.

TIA JSM

I don't think she knew.  Usually they 'announce' at the beginning of the tape that they are taping and do you have a problem.  And I also noticed that she didn't shut up even with food in her mouth.  She was sure trying hard to get Yuri in trouble.  Too bad Sin..didn't work.

 ::MonkeySkate::  (Love your emotcon)
Thanks Bluesy. I didn't think she knew, but wasn't sure. Yes you are right, she is trying to get Yuri in trouble. I am half way through it, but the very beginning she spoke for 5 minutes and I swear she didn't take a breath.

I love  ::MonkeySkate:: this too. Klaas made it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 01:13:48 PM
Hi Sunny, very good question. I thought she was there to protect KC, but now maybe she was trying to buddy up with KC to get info.  ::MonkeyConfused:: I am going to relisten to her (Tracy's) interview, all the giggling confused me last night. I am listening to Cindy right now and am totally confused about that tape.

Back to lurkdome.. ::MonkeyBike::

That's what I think too. She was there to buddy up, as well as being there for the protection, or whatever.  ::MonkeyRoll:: MO


Gizzie, I think more to get info than for protection.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 01:13:48 PM
Yep, inside their home the Anthonys are just charming and excellent hosts, and Cindy knows how to cook good  ::MonkeyRoll:: The Anthonys must really have some powerful koolaid   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 01:15:33 PM
Yep, inside their home the Anthonys are just charming and excellent hosts, and Cindy knows how to cook good  ::MonkeyRoll:: The Anthonys must really have some powerful koolaid   ::MonkeyEek::
Yes, very powerful koolaid.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ddex on September 05, 2009, 01:18:51 PM
I was very impressed with the lines of questioning on all three of the tapes.    ::MonkeyCool::
While talking with Rob D it seemed like they were fishing about KC the day the police came to JB's office.  Trying to find out if KC thought she was gonna be arrested on that day? Like she knew, they knew.  Also lots of ?'s about the time after the car decomp info was released.  
I have a hard time with Tracy. If KC is such a chatty cathy I can't understand how she would not "steer" some of the conversations.  And to have any sympathy after hearing facts like decomp and death bands, she sends her letters and $ for her jail account? Seems like that will blow for the SA anything she might have to offer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: raec on September 05, 2009, 01:23:27 PM
Good Night to all you Monks who are heading outta here!!

ShariVari - GOOD TO SEE YOU back in the cage.

QM - thanks for all the smileys you find and post!

cece - It would not surprise me to learn that Tracy did write letters and/or send money. I think she did  become fond of kc and the A's except for Lee, in some fashion.  I keep reminding myself that these interviews were not given under oath. Tracy REFUSED to speak to LE without being given immunity and her attorney was with her. WHY? IMO She knows a lot more than what was on these tapes. I do think, at times, she might have felt like she was in the twilight zone and that kc's constant chattering got on her nerves....but she isn't off the hook with me yet. ::MonkeyNoNo::  JMO of course!!

Thank you Sunny.  I'm still on the fence about Tracy also.  I think in some ways she may have bonded with or had some sympathy for Casey to some extent.  She may have witnessed the dynamics of this dysfunctional (to put it mildly) family and felt some sympathy?  I also get the feeling she may be holding back something.


Morning cece....I am going to have to go back to the beginning of Tracy's interview and see what her qualifications are.  I didn't write it down....gggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr  I wonder if she has ever done anything like this before. She often said in her interview I didn't ask this or that....even a follow thru kinda question.

Hi everyone, I'm not a regular poster as you can see, but I read up very often! 

I quoted this one because I guess I missed where Tracy asked for immunity.  Anyone have a link to that info or was it in the interview? 

Also, I'm confused as to why she would ask for immunity even if she knows more than she says in this interview - I thought that immunity was for those who may have had some kind of hand in the crime, even indirectly.  For example, a GuyA buys a gun from GuyB.  GuyA goes and kills someone with that gun - GuyB has nothing to do with this crime beyond selling the weapon to GuyA and GuyB did not know GuyA was going to kill someone with the weapon.  LE finds out who GuyB is, and he asks for immunity knowing that he could be sued in a civil case for wrongful death or even prosecuted in a criminal case.  (Lame example I know, sorry :))

How in the world would Tracy have anything to do with the crimes against Caylee?  Possibly because she knows more about it than what she told LE?  And if she does - why in the world would she not have said anything? I just don't get it!

'Splain please?  Thanks y'all!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 05, 2009, 01:24:29 PM
One more st*pid question. Sorry to be such a bother.

Did Cindy know she was being taped by this Commander guy?

I am trying to listen to it, but the background noisy is driving me crazy.

TIA JSM

JMS - STOP with the stupid questions statement...no questions are stupid :2brickwall:

To answer your question I don't know for sure. I think so.....but am not positive


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 01:26:27 PM
I was very impressed with the lines of questioning on all three of the tapes.    ::MonkeyCool::
While talking with Rob D it seemed like they were fishing about KC the day the police came to JB's office.  Trying to find out if KC thought she was gonna be arrested on that day? Like she knew, they knew.  Also lots of ?'s about the time after the car decomp info was released.  
I have a hard time with Tracy. If KC is such a chatty cathy I can't understand how she would not "steer" some of the conversations.  And to have any sympathy after hearing facts like decomp and death bands, she sends her letters and $ for her jail account? Seems like that will blow for the SA anything she might have to offer.
I agree with you, not good for the case.


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Post by: SunnyinTX on September 05, 2009, 01:27:41 PM
Yep, inside their home the Anthonys are just charming and excellent hosts, and Cindy knows how to cook good  ::MonkeyRoll:: The Anthonys must really have some powerful koolaid   ::MonkeyEek::

It seems their whole lives have been a charade...so I am sure they are excellent hosts....it's all a game to them.  I think the most telling of all is that their families DID NOT rally around them.


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Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 01:28:42 PM
One more st*pid question. Sorry to be such a bother.

Did Cindy know she was being taped by this Commander guy?

I am trying to listen to it, but the background noisy is driving me crazy.

TIA JSM

JMS - STOP with the stupid questions statement...no questions are stupid :2brickwall:

To answer your question I don't know for sure. I think so.....but am not positive
Sorry Sunny. Won't say it anymore.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Bluesy said that Cindy didn't know because at the beginning he doesn't say that she is being taped.


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Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 01:30:26 PM
Good Night to all you Monks who are heading outta here!!

ShariVari - GOOD TO SEE YOU back in the cage.

QM - thanks for all the smileys you find and post!

cece - It would not surprise me to learn that Tracy did write letters and/or send money. I think she did  become fond of kc and the A's except for Lee, in some fashion.  I keep reminding myself that these interviews were not given under oath. Tracy REFUSED to speak to LE without being given immunity and her attorney was with her. WHY? IMO She knows a lot more than what was on these tapes. I do think, at times, she might have felt like she was in the twilight zone and that kc's constant chattering got on her nerves....but she isn't off the hook with me yet. ::MonkeyNoNo::  JMO of course!!

Thank you Sunny.  I'm still on the fence about Tracy also.  I think in some ways she may have bonded with or had some sympathy for Casey to some extent.  She may have witnessed the dynamics of this dysfunctional (to put it mildly) family and felt some sympathy?  I also get the feeling she may be holding back something.


Morning cece....I am going to have to go back to the beginning of Tracy's interview and see what her qualifications are.  I didn't write it down....gggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr  I wonder if she has ever done anything like this before. She often said in her interview I didn't ask this or that....even a follow thru kinda question.

Hi everyone, I'm not a regular poster as you can see, but I read up very often! 

I quoted this one because I guess I missed where Tracy asked for immunity.  Anyone have a link to that info or was it in the interview? 

Also, I'm confused as to why she would ask for immunity even if she knows more than she says in this interview - I thought that immunity was for those who may have had some kind of hand in the crime, even indirectly.  For example, a GuyA buys a gun from GuyB.  GuyA goes and kills someone with that gun - GuyB has nothing to do with this crime beyond selling the weapon to GuyA and GuyB did not know GuyA was going to kill someone with the weapon.  LE finds out who GuyB is, and he asks for immunity knowing that he could be sued in a civil case for wrongful death or even prosecuted in a criminal case.  (Lame example I know, sorry :))

How in the world would Tracy have anything to do with the crimes against Caylee?  Possibly because she knows more about it than what she told LE?  And if she does - why in the world would she not have said anything? I just don't get it!

'Splain please?  Thanks y'all!
I'm not sure about the immunity. I am still confused about Lee getting immunity. Sorry I can't answer your question.


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Post by: SunnyinTX on September 05, 2009, 01:30:40 PM
I was very impressed with the lines of questioning on all three of the tapes.    ::MonkeyCool::
While talking with Rob D it seemed like they were fishing about KC the day the police came to JB's office.  Trying to find out if KC thought she was gonna be arrested on that day? Like she knew, they knew.  Also lots of ?'s about the time after the car decomp info was released.  
I have a hard time with Tracy. If KC is such a chatty cathy I can't understand how she would not "steer" some of the conversations.  And to have any sympathy after hearing facts like decomp and death bands, she sends her letters and $ for her jail account? Seems like that will blow for the SA anything she might have to offer.

I agree with the chatty cathy  observation and that Tracy could have steered the conversations at least in part. But I think the prosecutors are going to get a lot more out of her than we heard in this interview.  JMO


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Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 01:31:16 PM
Yep, inside their home the Anthonys are just charming and excellent hosts, and Cindy knows how to cook good  ::MonkeyRoll:: The Anthonys must really have some powerful koolaid   ::MonkeyEek::

It seems their whole lives have been a charade...so I am sure they are excellent hosts....it's all a game to them.  I think the most telling of all is that their families DID NOT rally around them.
EXACTLY!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 01:32:35 PM
raec, the way I figured, and I could be wrong, is Tracy asked for immunity because she heard things that Casey said, either directly or listening from another room, or even heard things the rest of the Anthonys were saying, that was very damning to Casey, like maybe she even heard where the remains were, but didn't come forward to the police and tell them  ::MonkeyConfused::


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Post by: SunnyinTX on September 05, 2009, 01:34:16 PM
Good Night to all you Monks who are heading outta here!!

ShariVari - GOOD TO SEE YOU back in the cage.

QM - thanks for all the smileys you find and post!

cece - It would not surprise me to learn that Tracy did write letters and/or send money. I think she did  become fond of kc and the A's except for Lee, in some fashion.  I keep reminding myself that these interviews were not given under oath. Tracy REFUSED to speak to LE without being given immunity and her attorney was with her. WHY? IMO She knows a lot more than what was on these tapes. I do think, at times, she might have felt like she was in the twilight zone and that kc's constant chattering got on her nerves....but she isn't off the hook with me yet. ::MonkeyNoNo::  JMO of course!!

Thank you Sunny.  I'm still on the fence about Tracy also.  I think in some ways she may have bonded with or had some sympathy for Casey to some extent.  She may have witnessed the dynamics of this dysfunctional (to put it mildly) family and felt some sympathy?  I also get the feeling she may be holding back something.


Morning cece....I am going to have to go back to the beginning of Tracy's interview and see what her qualifications are.  I didn't write it down....gggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr  I wonder if she has ever done anything like this before. She often said in her interview I didn't ask this or that....even a follow thru kinda question.

Hi everyone, I'm not a regular poster as you can see, but I read up very often! 

I quoted this one because I guess I missed where Tracy asked for immunity.  Anyone have a link to that info or was it in the interview? 

Also, I'm confused as to why she would ask for immunity even if she knows more than she says in this interview - I thought that immunity was for those who may have had some kind of hand in the crime, even indirectly.  For example, a GuyA buys a gun from GuyB.  GuyA goes and kills someone with that gun - GuyB has nothing to do with this crime beyond selling the weapon to GuyA and GuyB did not know GuyA was going to kill someone with the weapon.  LE finds out who GuyB is, and he asks for immunity knowing that he could be sued in a civil case for wrongful death or even prosecuted in a criminal case.  (Lame example I know, sorry :))

How in the world would Tracy have anything to do with the crimes against Caylee?  Possibly because she knows more about it than what she told LE?  And if she does - why in the world would she not have said anything? I just don't get it!

'Splain please?  Thanks y'all!

Hi raec ...glad to see you posting. the immunity was not in these interviews.It has been eported numerous time last year.  We have no idea why she insisted on immunity before speaking to LE....and I for one was hoping to find out in this interview. However I saw nothing that would warrant immunity. So it is my 'opinion' that she knows more and it just wasn't approached in this interview.


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Post by: BluesyGram on September 05, 2009, 01:34:38 PM
Yep, inside their home the Anthonys are just charming and excellent hosts, and Cindy knows how to cook good  ::MonkeyRoll:: The Anthonys must really have some powerful koolaid   ::MonkeyEek::

It seems their whole lives have been a charade...so I am sure they are excellent hosts....it's all a game to them.  I think the most telling of all is that their families DID NOT rally around them.


I agree with all of what you said and especially the part in red.  Most people could not have maintained their emotions during this time...acting like she just came home from Iraq or something (credit Tracey)...but THEY did and they did it very well. "Oh honey, you need a shower....what do you want for dinner?  How about dessert?"  Disgusting.





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Post by: SunnyinTX on September 05, 2009, 01:37:21 PM
One more st*pid question. Sorry to be such a bother.

Did Cindy know she was being taped by this Commander guy?

I am trying to listen to it, but the background noisy is driving me crazy.

TIA JSM

JMS - STOP with the stupid questions statement...no questions are stupid :2brickwall:

To answer your question I don't know for sure. I think so.....but am not positive
Sorry Sunny. Won't say it anymore.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Bluesy said that Cindy didn't know because at the beginning he doesn't say that she is being taped.

I don't remember it being said either...will have to go back...but ugh...not now...I am not up for sin-sin this morning. However, I can't see that they could get by recording her without her knowing.......seems to me she would be having a hissy fit by now....I still have most of Rob's interview to listen too.


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Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 01:37:59 PM
Yep, inside their home the Anthonys are just charming and excellent hosts, and Cindy knows how to cook good  ::MonkeyRoll:: The Anthonys must really have some powerful koolaid   ::MonkeyEek::

It seems their whole lives have been a charade...so I am sure they are excellent hosts....it's all a game to them.  I think the most telling of all is that their families DID NOT rally around them.


I agree with all of what you said and especially the part in red.  Most people could not have maintained their emotions during this time...acting like she just came home from Iraq or something (credit Tracey)...but THEY did and they did it very well. "Oh honey, you need a shower....what do you want for dinner?  How about dessert?"  Disgusting.




Yeah and don't forget these are the same d*mn people eating crab puffs and bread pudding at the Ritz the night LE is searching in the rain and mud for the little bones of poor Caylee.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 01:40:57 PM
One more st*pid question. Sorry to be such a bother.

Did Cindy know she was being taped by this Commander guy?

I am trying to listen to it, but the background noisy is driving me crazy.

TIA JSM

JMS - STOP with the stupid questions statement...no questions are stupid :2brickwall:

To answer your question I don't know for sure. I think so.....but am not positive
Sorry Sunny. Won't say it anymore.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Bluesy said that Cindy didn't know because at the beginning he doesn't say that she is being taped.

I don't remember it being said either...will have to go back...but ugh...not now...I am not up for sin-sin this morning. However, I can't see that they could get by recording her without her knowing.......seems to me she would be having a hissy fit by now....I still have most of Rob's interview to listen too.
I am just about through with Cindy. It seems to me if she knew she was being taped they would have done it in an office instead of a BBQ joint. I think like Bluesy said, Cindy was trying to rat out Yuri to his commanding officer and they knew what she was up to, so they secretly taped her. I'm not sure. I like you, can't take much more of her.  ::MonkeyConfused:: Her voice is about to do my head in.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 05, 2009, 01:42:55 PM
Good Night to all you Monks who are heading outta here!!

ShariVari - GOOD TO SEE YOU back in the cage.

QM - thanks for all the smileys you find and post!

cece - It would not surprise me to learn that Tracy did write letters and/or send money. I think she did  become fond of kc and the A's except for Lee, in some fashion.  I keep reminding myself that these interviews were not given under oath. Tracy REFUSED to speak to LE without being given immunity and her attorney was with her. WHY? IMO She knows a lot more than what was on these tapes. I do think, at times, she might have felt like she was in the twilight zone and that kc's constant chattering got on her nerves....but she isn't off the hook with me yet. ::MonkeyNoNo::  JMO of course!!

Thank you Sunny.  I'm still on the fence about Tracy also.  I think in some ways she may have bonded with or had some sympathy for Casey to some extent.  She may have witnessed the dynamics of this dysfunctional (to put it mildly) family and felt some sympathy?  I also get the feeling she may be holding back something.


Morning cece....I am going to have to go back to the beginning of Tracy's interview and see what her qualifications are.  I didn't write it down....gggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr  I wonder if she has ever done anything like this before. She often said in her interview I didn't ask this or that....even a follow thru kinda question.

Hi everyone, I'm not a regular poster as you can see, but I read up very often! 

I quoted this one because I guess I missed where Tracy asked for immunity.  Anyone have a link to that info or was it in the interview? 

Also, I'm confused as to why she would ask for immunity even if she knows more than she says in this interview - I thought that immunity was for those who may have had some kind of hand in the crime, even indirectly.  For example, a GuyA buys a gun from GuyB.  GuyA goes and kills someone with that gun - GuyB has nothing to do with this crime beyond selling the weapon to GuyA and GuyB did not know GuyA was going to kill someone with the weapon.  LE finds out who GuyB is, and he asks for immunity knowing that he could be sued in a civil case for wrongful death or even prosecuted in a criminal case.  (Lame example I know, sorry :))

How in the world would Tracy have anything to do with the crimes against Caylee?  Possibly because she knows more about it than what she told LE?  And if she does - why in the world would she not have said anything? I just don't get it!

'Splain please?  Thanks y'all!
I'm not sure about the immunity. I am still confused about Lee getting immunity. Sorry I can't answer your question.

JMS Lee got LIMITED IMMUNITY..meaning anything he said in this depo couldn't be used to prosecute him...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 05, 2009, 01:48:20 PM
Yep, inside their home the Anthonys are just charming and excellent hosts, and Cindy knows how to cook good  ::MonkeyRoll:: The Anthonys must really have some powerful koolaid   ::MonkeyEek::

It seems their whole lives have been a charade...so I am sure they are excellent hosts....it's all a game to them.  I think the most telling of all is that their families DID NOT rally around them.
EXACTLY!!!

We saw people coming to the vigil's.....but I do not recall hearing about  people.... friends and/or family rallying around them. The vigil's were for Caylee NOT for them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 05, 2009, 01:49:02 PM
raec, the way I figured, and I could be wrong, is Tracy asked for immunity because she heard things that Casey said, either directly or listening from another room, or even heard things the rest of the Anthonys were saying, that was very damning to Casey, like maybe she even heard where the remains were, but didn't come forward to the police and tell them  ::MonkeyConfused::

nrcg I agree.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 01:50:30 PM
Good Night to all you Monks who are heading outta here!!

ShariVari - GOOD TO SEE YOU back in the cage.

QM - thanks for all the smileys you find and post!

cece - It would not surprise me to learn that Tracy did write letters and/or send money. I think she did  become fond of kc and the A's except for Lee, in some fashion.  I keep reminding myself that these interviews were not given under oath. Tracy REFUSED to speak to LE without being given immunity and her attorney was with her. WHY? IMO She knows a lot more than what was on these tapes. I do think, at times, she might have felt like she was in the twilight zone and that kc's constant chattering got on her nerves....but she isn't off the hook with me yet. ::MonkeyNoNo::  JMO of course!!

Thank you Sunny.  I'm still on the fence about Tracy also.  I think in some ways she may have bonded with or had some sympathy for Casey to some extent.  She may have witnessed the dynamics of this dysfunctional (to put it mildly) family and felt some sympathy?  I also get the feeling she may be holding back something.


Morning cece....I am going to have to go back to the beginning of Tracy's interview and see what her qualifications are.  I didn't write it down....gggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr  I wonder if she has ever done anything like this before. She often said in her interview I didn't ask this or that....even a follow thru kinda question.

Hi everyone, I'm not a regular poster as you can see, but I read up very often! 

I quoted this one because I guess I missed where Tracy asked for immunity.  Anyone have a link to that info or was it in the interview? 

Also, I'm confused as to why she would ask for immunity even if she knows more than she says in this interview - I thought that immunity was for those who may have had some kind of hand in the crime, even indirectly.  For example, a GuyA buys a gun from GuyB.  GuyA goes and kills someone with that gun - GuyB has nothing to do with this crime beyond selling the weapon to GuyA and GuyB did not know GuyA was going to kill someone with the weapon.  LE finds out who GuyB is, and he asks for immunity knowing that he could be sued in a civil case for wrongful death or even prosecuted in a criminal case.  (Lame example I know, sorry :))

How in the world would Tracy have anything to do with the crimes against Caylee?  Possibly because she knows more about it than what she told LE?  And if she does - why in the world would she not have said anything? I just don't get it!

'Splain please?  Thanks y'all!
I'm not sure about the immunity. I am still confused about Lee getting immunity. Sorry I can't answer your question.

JMS Lee got LIMITED IMMUNITY..meaning anything he said in this depo couldn't be used to prosecute him...
Thanks Sunny. I wasn't sure about that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 01:54:28 PM
Yep, inside their home the Anthonys are just charming and excellent hosts, and Cindy knows how to cook good  ::MonkeyRoll:: The Anthonys must really have some powerful koolaid   ::MonkeyEek::

It seems their whole lives have been a charade...so I am sure they are excellent hosts....it's all a game to them.  I think the most telling of all is that their families DID NOT rally around them.
EXACTLY!!!

We saw people coming to the vigil's.....but I do not recall hearing about  people.... friends and/or family rallying around them. The vigil's were for Caylee NOT for them.
Sunny, I don't remember, but were any of Cindy's family members at the vigils in the begining. Do you remember?

I remember that her brother sent those emails telling Cindy she needed mental help.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 05, 2009, 01:56:35 PM
Monks, have a great afternnon...I am off to look for  a new bathroom vanity. Then I am going to listen to the rest of Rob's interview. Let me leave you with another of Tony Padillla's posts...personally I think he is an azzhole!!  JMO  Seems he is very jealous of his uncle and make no bones about putting him down every change he gets.

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Why is LP in daily contact with Baez?

TP relies:   I have no idea but I wonder about that as well. It cant be good. I dont understand how you can talk civil to a person that bad mouths you every chance he gets.


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Post by: Desdemona on September 05, 2009, 02:00:47 PM
 :smt039 Hi Monkeys!

Thanks for all the links to the Padilla gang interviews. 

Thanks for the link to Cindy's too, though listening to the entire thing yesterday is something that will take me awhile to recover from.  Whoa, she is one incredibly wacky piece of work!

Thanks also to Monkeys who are posting on topic today, making this thread a worthwhile and valuable resource for members like me.  Really appreciate the great, informative, sleuthy discussion going on -- and especially since my Monkey time is limited, as I can only peek in from work when I get a quick break here and there. 

 ::MonkeyDance::  Monkeys Rock! 
(Thanks ANJ for speaking up about o/t "clutter," and thanks for your awesome  reply post, QM...)

Desi


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 02:01:48 PM
Monks, have a great afternnon...I am off to look for  a new bathroom vanity. Then I am going to listen to the rest of Rob's interview. Let me leave you with another of Tony Padillla's posts...personally I think he is an azzhole!!  JMO  Seems he is very jealous of his uncle and make no bones about putting him down every change he gets.

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Why is LP in daily contact with Baez?

TP relies:   I have no idea but I wonder about that as well. It cant be good. I dont understand how you can talk civil to a person that bad mouths you every chance he gets.
You have a good afternoon Sunny. I'm not sure what to believe when it comes to TP.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 05, 2009, 02:07:35 PM
I was very impressed with the lines of questioning on all three of the tapes.    ::MonkeyCool::
While talking with Rob D it seemed like they were fishing about KC the day the police came to JB's office.  Trying to find out if KC thought she was gonna be arrested on that day? Like she knew, they knew.  Also lots of ?'s about the time after the car decomp info was released.  
I have a hard time with Tracy. If KC is such a chatty cathy I can't understand how she would not "steer" some of the conversations.  And to have any sympathy after hearing facts like decomp and death bands, she sends her letters and $ for her jail account? Seems like that will blow for the SA anything she might have to offer.

The Rob Dick tape was so clear & concise it was a pleasure to hear it in spite of the fact it was so long.  The time went by quickly.  I found everything in it helpful and you could tell the questioners were open-minded about everything and were experienced and had done their homework;  Tracy's, however, was tedious due to her nervous laughter, speech patterns, and rapid talking, but did contain some interesting observations which didn't bode well for the Defense, imo.  So if it's really true that Tracy has somewhat befriended Casey since the last arrest, I don't believe that will deminish the impact of those observations.


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Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 02:09:58 PM
Hi Monkeys!   ::MonkeyAngel::

Just popping in for a minute as we took a short break from outdoor chores.

I haven't listened to Cindy's audio yet, and haven't been able to bring myself to. But during the timeframe the Anthony's all had LE interviews that they didn't know were recorded and didn't find out till much later and they did have a fit about it when they came out. My guess is that Spindy had no idea at the time that the Commander was taping her. She figured she was ratting Yuri out to his superior and it was on the QT. She probably had no idea until recently he had done it. Good for him!


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Post by: Ono on September 05, 2009, 02:22:12 PM
Hi Monkeys!   ::MonkeyAngel::

Just popping in for a minute as we took a short break from outdoor chores.

I haven't listened to Cindy's audio yet, and haven't been able to bring myself to. But during the timeframe the Anthony's all had LE interviews that they didn't know were recorded and didn't find out till much later and they did have a fit about it when they came out. My guess is that Spindy had no idea at the time that the Commander was taping her. She figured she was ratting Yuri out to his superior and it was on the QT. She probably had no idea until recently he had done it. Good for him!

Hey there Fanny -- I can't bring myself to listen to Cindy's yet either ... !! lol 

If Casey is the babbling non-stop talker as Tracy said, I cannot imagine being cooped up in the same small house with both of them for any length of time !  Hopefully I'll have time/strength to do so before 'Bama beats Va. Tech tonight ... lol.


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Post by: BluesyGram on September 05, 2009, 02:34:40 PM
I was very impressed with the lines of questioning on all three of the tapes.    ::MonkeyCool::
While talking with Rob D it seemed like they were fishing about KC the day the police came to JB's office.  Trying to find out if KC thought she was gonna be arrested on that day? Like she knew, they knew.  Also lots of ?'s about the time after the car decomp info was released.  
I have a hard time with Tracy. If KC is such a chatty cathy I can't understand how she would not "steer" some of the conversations.  And to have any sympathy after hearing facts like decomp and death bands, she sends her letters and $ for her jail account? Seems like that will blow for the SA anything she might have to offer.

The Rob Dick tape was so clear & concise it was a pleasure to hear it in spite of the fact it was so long.  The time went by quickly.  I found everything in it helpful and you could tell the questioners were open-minded about everything and were experienced and had done their homework;  Tracy's, however, was tedious due to her nervous laughter, speech patterns, and rapid talking, but did contain some interesting observations which didn't bode well for the Defense, imo.  So if it's really true that Tracy has somewhat befriended Casey since the last arrest, I don't believe that will deminish the impact of those observations.

She has what would be called 'damning' information IMO.  So info like that coming from a 'sympathizer' would be more damning than say from someone that was a 'hater' IMO.
So I think it makes what she has to add more credible than someone who has an axe to grind.

 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 02:37:41 PM
I have always believed that Caylee's murder was premeditated based on the fact that she was getting old enough to verbalize what was going on and could blow Casey's world apart. I don't believe it was a rage killing so the fight (whether it occurred or not) is not that important to me. What puzzles me, is that Caylee's advancing age and verbal skills is such an obvious motive, why has it never been mentioned anywhere??

I'm with you on this cuteascanbe....anyone else notice in several of these new photos of Caylee....glassy-eyed, swollen, red circles around her eyes, even more bruising, etc? Some of them totally creeped me out.

I did, SEEME, but I didn't want to bring it up again. Especially in the one I pointed out yesterday. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 02:43:19 PM
Hi Monkeys!   ::MonkeyAngel::

Just popping in for a minute as we took a short break from outdoor chores.

I haven't listened to Cindy's audio yet, and haven't been able to bring myself to. But during the timeframe the Anthony's all had LE interviews that they didn't know were recorded and didn't find out till much later and they did have a fit about it when they came out. My guess is that Spindy had no idea at the time that the Commander was taping her. She figured she was ratting Yuri out to his superior and it was on the QT. She probably had no idea until recently he had done it. Good for him!
Hi Fanny. I think it is funny that they recorded her trying to rat out Yuri. She also went on and on about them not following leads from around the country. She talked about TES but I couldn't understand what exactly she was talking about at that moment. I bet she went ballistic when this tape was released yesterday.  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 02:43:45 PM
Hi Monkeys!   ::MonkeyAngel::

Just popping in for a minute as we took a short break from outdoor chores.

I haven't listened to Cindy's audio yet, and haven't been able to bring myself to. But during the timeframe the Anthony's all had LE interviews that they didn't know were recorded and didn't find out till much later and they did have a fit about it when they came out. My guess is that Spindy had no idea at the time that the Commander was taping her. She figured she was ratting Yuri out to his superior and it was on the QT. She probably had no idea until recently he had done it. Good for him!

Hey there Fanny -- I can't bring myself to listen to Cindy's yet either ... !! lol 

If Casey is the babbling non-stop talker as Tracy said, I cannot imagine being cooped up in the same small house with both of them for any length of time !  Hopefully I'll have time/strength to do so before 'Bama beats Va. Tech tonight ... lol.

 ::MonkeyFootball:: ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 02:45:17 PM
I was very impressed with the lines of questioning on all three of the tapes.    ::MonkeyCool::
While talking with Rob D it seemed like they were fishing about KC the day the police came to JB's office.  Trying to find out if KC thought she was gonna be arrested on that day? Like she knew, they knew.  Also lots of ?'s about the time after the car decomp info was released.  
I have a hard time with Tracy. If KC is such a chatty cathy I can't understand how she would not "steer" some of the conversations.  And to have any sympathy after hearing facts like decomp and death bands, she sends her letters and $ for her jail account? Seems like that will blow for the SA anything she might have to offer.

The Rob Dick tape was so clear & concise it was a pleasure to hear it in spite of the fact it was so long.  The time went by quickly.  I found everything in it helpful and you could tell the questioners were open-minded about everything and were experienced and had done their homework;  Tracy's, however, was tedious due to her nervous laughter, speech patterns, and rapid talking, but did contain some interesting observations which didn't bode well for the Defense, imo.  So if it's really true that Tracy has somewhat befriended Casey since the last arrest, I don't believe that will deminish the impact of those observations.

She has what would be called 'damning' information IMO.  So info like that coming from a 'sympathizer' would be more damning than say from someone that was a 'hater' IMO.
So I think it makes what she has to add more credible than someone who has an axe to grind.

 ::MonkeyGavel::

Ooohh. That makes sense to me. Thanks Bluesy!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: karenmamo on September 05, 2009, 03:28:32 PM
One more st*pid question. Sorry to be such a bother.

Did Cindy know she was being taped by this Commander guy?

I am trying to listen to it, but the background noisy is driving me crazy.

TIA JSM

I don't think she knew.  Usually they 'announce' at the beginning of the tape that they are taping and do you have a problem.  And I also noticed that she didn't shut up even with food in her mouth.  She was sure trying hard to get Yuri in trouble.  Too bad Sin..didn't work.

...and figuring she is the one who reported Yuri posting on WS..we remember those pages someone in that house had printed out from the WS site.

 ::MonkeySkate::  (Love your emotcon)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BluesyGram on September 05, 2009, 03:31:52 PM
One more st*pid question. Sorry to be such a bother.

Did Cindy know she was being taped by this Commander guy?

I am trying to listen to it, but the background noisy is driving me crazy.

TIA JSM

I don't think she knew.  Usually they 'announce' at the beginning of the tape that they are taping and do you have a problem.  And I also noticed that she didn't shut up even with food in her mouth.  She was sure trying hard to get Yuri in trouble.  Too bad Sin..didn't work.

...and figuring she is the one who reported Yuri posting on WS..we remember those pages someone in that house had printed out from the WS site.

 ::MonkeySkate::  (Love your emotcon)



I didn't know she was the one that did that...makes sense though.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ddex on September 05, 2009, 05:06:54 PM
I was very impressed with the lines of questioning on all three of the tapes.    ::MonkeyCool::
While talking with Rob D it seemed like they were fishing about KC the day the police came to JB's office.  Trying to find out if KC thought she was gonna be arrested on that day? Like she knew, they knew.  Also lots of ?'s about the time after the car decomp info was released.  
I have a hard time with Tracy. If KC is such a chatty cathy I can't understand how she would not "steer" some of the conversations.  And to have any sympathy after hearing facts like decomp and death bands, she sends her letters and $ for her jail account? Seems like that will blow for the SA anything she might have to offer.

The Rob Dick tape was so clear & concise it was a pleasure to hear it in spite of the fact it was so long.  The time went by quickly.  I found everything in it helpful and you could tell the questioners were open-minded about everything and were experienced and had done their homework;  Tracy's, however, was tedious due to her nervous laughter, speech patterns, and rapid talking, but did contain some interesting observations which didn't bode well for the Defense, imo.  So if it's really true that Tracy has somewhat befriended Casey since the last arrest, I don't believe that will deminish the impact of those observations.

She has what would be called 'damning' information IMO.  So info like that coming from a 'sympathizer' would be more damning than say from someone that was a 'hater' IMO.
So I think it makes what she has to add more credible than someone who has an axe to grind.

 ::MonkeyGavel::

Ooohh. That makes sense to me. Thanks Bluesy!
I like the way you think. With that logic I feel much better bout what Tracy has to offer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 05, 2009, 05:14:59 PM
I don't post much. Not much to say when it's all been said!! I wonder if the remark about Jose telling her to look sad about Caylee will be admissable in court. If I were on a jury, that remark would certainly give me pause. That along with the chloroform remark, the death band and the decomposition....Her reaction to all of this is just so Casey and for a jury should speak volumes..Unless of course they can find 12 of the stupidest people in Florida like they managed to do for the OJ trial...(of course, those jurors admitted that regardless of what was presented, they had no intention of convicting him)
Please can you or someone tell me what interview this was talked about?
I think it was in Tracy's interview. He showed her a video of the Eisenbergs.
Thank you JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 05, 2009, 05:19:54 PM
I was very impressed with the lines of questioning on all three of the tapes.    ::MonkeyCool::
While talking with Rob D it seemed like they were fishing about KC the day the police came to JB's office.  Trying to find out if KC thought she was gonna be arrested on that day? Like she knew, they knew.  Also lots of ?'s about the time after the car decomp info was released.  
I have a hard time with Tracy. If KC is such a chatty cathy I can't understand how she would not "steer" some of the conversations.  And to have any sympathy after hearing facts like decomp and death bands, she sends her letters and $ for her jail account? Seems like that will blow for the SA anything she might have to offer.

The Rob Dick tape was so clear & concise it was a pleasure to hear it in spite of the fact it was so long.  The time went by quickly.  I found everything in it helpful and you could tell the questioners were open-minded about everything and were experienced and had done their homework;  Tracy's, however, was tedious due to her nervous laughter, speech patterns, and rapid talking, but did contain some interesting observations which didn't bode well for the Defense, imo.  So if it's really true that Tracy has somewhat befriended Casey since the last arrest, I don't believe that will deminish the impact of those observations.

She has what would be called 'damning' information IMO.  So info like that coming from a 'sympathizer' would be more damning than say from someone that was a 'hater' IMO.
So I think it makes what she has to add more credible than someone who has an axe to grind.

 ::MonkeyGavel::

Ooohh. That makes sense to me. Thanks Bluesy!
I like the way you think. With that logic I feel much better bout what Tracy has to offer.

Let not your heart be troubled, ddex.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 05, 2009, 05:25:05 PM
Good Night to all you Monks who are heading outta here!!

ShariVari - GOOD TO SEE YOU back in the cage.

QM - thanks for all the smileys you find and post!

cece - It would not surprise me to learn that Tracy did write letters and/or send money. I think she did  become fond of kc and the A's except for Lee, in some fashion.  I keep reminding myself that these interviews were not given under oath. Tracy REFUSED to speak to LE without being given immunity and her attorney was with her. WHY? IMO She knows a lot more than what was on these tapes. I do think, at times, she might have felt like she was in the twilight zone and that kc's constant chattering got on her nerves....but she isn't off the hook with me yet. ::MonkeyNoNo::  JMO of course!!

Thank you Sunny.  I'm still on the fence about Tracy also.  I think in some ways she may have bonded with or had some sympathy for Casey to some extent.  She may have witnessed the dynamics of this dysfunctional (to put it mildly) family and felt some sympathy?  I also get the feeling she may be holding back something.


Morning cece....I am going to have to go back to the beginning of Tracy's interview and see what her qualifications are.  I didn't write it down....gggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr  I wonder if she has ever done anything like this before. She often said in her interview I didn't ask this or that....even a follow thru kinda question.

Hi everyone, I'm not a regular poster as you can see, but I read up very often! 

I quoted this one because I guess I missed where Tracy asked for immunity.  Anyone have a link to that info or was it in the interview? 

Also, I'm confused as to why she would ask for immunity even if she knows more than she says in this interview - I thought that immunity was for those who may have had some kind of hand in the crime, even indirectly.  For example, a GuyA buys a gun from GuyB.  GuyA goes and kills someone with that gun - GuyB has nothing to do with this crime beyond selling the weapon to GuyA and GuyB did not know GuyA was going to kill someone with the weapon.  LE finds out who GuyB is, and he asks for immunity knowing that he could be sued in a civil case for wrongful death or even prosecuted in a criminal case.  (Lame example I know, sorry :))

How in the world would Tracy have anything to do with the crimes against Caylee?  Possibly because she knows more about it than what she told LE?  And if she does - why in the world would she not have said anything? I just don't get it!

'Splain please?  Thanks y'all!
Welcome RaeC
So far as I know I have only heard the Tracy/immunity thing from Leonard Padilla and Tony Padilla(posting at WS)denies knowing anything about Tracy asking for immunity sooooooo,IMO,that may be a rumor.
Also,Holly whatever from some media site is the only one who has said that Tracy wrote to caseyskank and sent her money sooooo,IMO,for now I'm choosing not to believe that either.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 05, 2009, 05:36:48 PM
One more st*pid question. Sorry to be such a bother.

Did Cindy know she was being taped by this Commander guy?

I am trying to listen to it, but the background noisy is driving me crazy.

TIA JSM

JMS - STOP with the stupid questions statement...no questions are stupid :2brickwall:

To answer your question I don't know for sure. I think so.....but am not positive
Sorry Sunny. Won't say it anymore.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Bluesy said that Cindy didn't know because at the beginning he doesn't say that she is being taped.

In listening to Cindy's tape, I got the impression that it was more like he was "wired" (like when Toni wore a wire with Lee).  He never turned the tape off & you could hear his footsteps all the way to the end where it sounded like he reached his desk & took the wire off.  (Or maybe I just have a vivid imagination LOL!)
 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 05, 2009, 05:42:08 PM
One more st*pid question. Sorry to be such a bother.

Did Cindy know she was being taped by this Commander guy?

I am trying to listen to it, but the background noisy is driving me crazy.

TIA JSM

JMS - STOP with the stupid questions statement...no questions are stupid :2brickwall:

To answer your question I don't know for sure. I think so.....but am not positive
Sorry Sunny. Won't say it anymore.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Bluesy said that Cindy didn't know because at the beginning he doesn't say that she is being taped.

I don't remember it being said either...will have to go back...but ugh...not now...I am not up for sin-sin this morning. However, I can't see that they could get by recording her without her knowing.......seems to me she would be having a hissy fit by now....I still have most of Rob's interview to listen too.

What I remember from the beginning of Cindy's tape was background noise, like he was sitting in a car waiting for her.  Then almost a minute in, it sounds like she enters the car & they start talking.  I don't remember them saying anything about it being recorded.  (But I'm on audio overload. LOL)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: raec on September 05, 2009, 05:44:32 PM
Thanks for all the answers and opinions earlier! 

After I posted my question, I got in the shower and another theory just kinda dawned on me - Really ANYONE who has had ANYTHING to do with this family should ask for immunity because we all know the Scamthony's, they'll twist, turn, manipulate, and pin the slightest little thing on ya when it really meant nothing.  Anything they can possibly do to put doubt in the mind of the public court and get the attention off their murderess daughter.

In a way, I bet all these people who were just trying to help are wishing that they turned and ran the other direction instead. 

You guys made such a good point too about none of the family jumping in to their aide.  That speaks volumes in itself. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 06:36:22 PM
One more st*pid question. Sorry to be such a bother.

Did Cindy know she was being taped by this Commander guy?

I am trying to listen to it, but the background noisy is driving me crazy.

TIA JSM

I don't think she knew.  Usually they 'announce' at the beginning of the tape that they are taping and do you have a problem.  And I also noticed that she didn't shut up even with food in her mouth.  She was sure trying hard to get Yuri in trouble.  Too bad Sin..didn't work.

...and figuring she is the one who reported Yuri posting on WS..we remember those pages someone in that house had printed out from the WS site.

 ::MonkeySkate::  (Love your emotcon)



I didn't know she was the one that did that...makes sense though.


I didn't know that Cindy turned in Yuri either.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 06:37:33 PM
I don't post much. Not much to say when it's all been said!! I wonder if the remark about Jose telling her to look sad about Caylee will be admissable in court. If I were on a jury, that remark would certainly give me pause. That along with the chloroform remark, the death band and the decomposition....Her reaction to all of this is just so Casey and for a jury should speak volumes..Unless of course they can find 12 of the stupidest people in Florida like they managed to do for the OJ trial...(of course, those jurors admitted that regardless of what was presented, they had no intention of convicting him)
Please can you or someone tell me what interview this was talked about?
I think it was in Tracy's interview. He showed her a video of the Eisenbergs.
Thank you JSM
  ::MonkeyAngel:: YVW


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on September 05, 2009, 06:40:36 PM
Hi Sunny, very good question. I thought she was there to protect KC, but now maybe she was trying to buddy up with KC to get info.  ::MonkeyConfused:: I am going to relisten to her (Tracy's) interview, all the giggling confused me last night. I am listening to Cindy right now and am totally confused about that tape.

Back to lurkdome.. ::MonkeyBike::

That's what I think too. She was there to buddy up, as well as being there for the protection, or whatever.  ::MonkeyRoll:: MO





I hope her intention to buddy up with KC was to get more information. That’s about the only thing that will make sense out of her writing and putting money on KC’s jail account. Otherwise, who in their right mind or has an iota of integrity sends money to a woman that murdered her own child? The thought of it makes me ill………


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 06:42:38 PM
One more st*pid question. Sorry to be such a bother.

Did Cindy know she was being taped by this Commander guy?

I am trying to listen to it, but the background noisy is driving me crazy.

TIA JSM

JMS - STOP with the stupid questions statement...no questions are stupid :2brickwall:

To answer your question I don't know for sure. I think so.....but am not positive
Sorry Sunny. Won't say it anymore.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Bluesy said that Cindy didn't know because at the beginning he doesn't say that she is being taped.

In listening to Cindy's tape, I got the impression that it was more like he was "wired" (like when Toni wore a wire with Lee).  He never turned the tape off & you could hear his footsteps all the way to the end where it sounded like he reached his desk & took the wire off.  (Or maybe I just have a vivid imagination LOL!)
 ::MonkeyJnBox::
I thought the same Cece, that he was wired. Couldn't he had taken her somewhere a little quiter though. I couldn't make out all she was saying because of the background noisy at the BBQ restaurant.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 06:49:35 PM
Hi Sunny, very good question. I thought she was there to protect KC, but now maybe she was trying to buddy up with KC to get info.  ::MonkeyConfused:: I am going to relisten to her (Tracy's) interview, all the giggling confused me last night. I am listening to Cindy right now and am totally confused about that tape.

Back to lurkdome.. ::MonkeyBike::

That's what I think too. She was there to buddy up, as well as being there for the protection, or whatever.  ::MonkeyRoll:: MO





I hope her intention to buddy up with KC was to get more information. That’s about the only thing that will make sense out of her writing and putting money on KC’s jail account. Otherwise, who in their right mind or has an iota of integrity sends money to a woman that murdered her own child? The thought of it makes me ill………
I think it was more about getting info out of KC. I am confused about her sending money and letters. I will have to read back.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 05, 2009, 06:51:19 PM
One more st*pid question. Sorry to be such a bother.

Did Cindy know she was being taped by this Commander guy?

I am trying to listen to it, but the background noisy is driving me crazy.

TIA JSM

I don't think she knew.  Usually they 'announce' at the beginning of the tape that they are taping and do you have a problem.  And I also noticed that she didn't shut up even with food in her mouth.  She was sure trying hard to get Yuri in trouble.  Too bad Sin..didn't work.

...and figuring she is the one who reported Yuri posting on WS..we remember those pages someone in that house had printed out from the WS site.

 ::MonkeySkate::  (Love your emotcon)



I didn't know she was the one that did that...makes sense though.


I didn't know that Cindy turned in Yuri either.

Hi Monks!  Whew shopping all done!!  Let's not start stating that as a fact....bluesey was stating that as an assumption....as she said, 'and figuring she is the one who reported Yuri posting on WS'....even though it seems like a reasonable assumption, let's not state it as fact ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 05, 2009, 06:54:50 PM
Remember Tracy mentioning the song kc played over and over one day? Here's the words...interesting to say the least ::MonkeyWink::

Sevendust The Past Lyrics:
Beneath the water
that's falling from my eyes
lays a soul I've left behind
the edge of sorrow was
reached but now I'm fine
I've filled the hole I had inside

I pray it doesn't scream my name
so I light a flame and let it breathe
the air that kills the shame

I'm up
I'm down
like a rollercoaster
racing through my life
I've erased the past again

a risky morning
I feel like I'm alive
I can't believe I've made
it through this time
the edge of sorrow I
[ Find more Lyrics on www.mp3lyrics.org/v1hF ]
lived in for some time
(lived in for some time)
has left the hole I have inside

The burnin edge that drowned my hate
was the last thing I ever felt
or thought I could escape

I'm up
I'm down
like a rollercoaster
racing through my life
I've erased the past again [x2]

You led me here then broke me down
the difference is this time around
I will not let you see me drown

I'm up
I'm down
like a rollercoaster
racing through my life
I've erased the past again [x2]

Erased the past again now
Erased the past again

Beneath the water
that's falling from my eyes


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 05, 2009, 06:56:56 PM
I think this was posted on WS...a friend sent it to me while we were out.....it's said to be a  picture of Tracy.


http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr260/momtective/TracyM.jpg


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 05, 2009, 07:11:37 PM

I hope her intention to buddy up with KC was to get more information. That’s about the only thing that will make sense out of her writing and putting money on KC’s jail account. Otherwise, who in their right mind or has an iota of integrity sends money to a woman that murdered her own child? The thought of it makes me ill………

I agree, but what would be the purpose of continuing to send KC money? Actually, what would the purpose be at all, since she had gone back to jail after their time spent together, no?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 07:12:16 PM
This whole thing with Tony Padilla and Tracy doesn't set well with me, something is wrong with this picture. I'm bringing this post from WS over, because I think it brings up some good points. And is it true that Tracy emailed the Anthonys after she left their house, and said I miss you guys?  ::MonkeyEek::                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally Posted by Kentjbkent 
I am so puzzled about this....

LP, TP, Rob and Tracy originally got involved in this case for the BENEFIT of Caylee....to find HER.

Shortly after arriving, they become very suspicious of all family member behavior and suspect that Caylee was not abducted by a non-family member.

They seem determined to find her body for the BENEFIT of Caylee.

Caylee is found.

NOW....

TP stands firm on the opinion that the Anthony's are wonderful people, and states he has had contact with them.

TP states that KC was a very nice girl.

LP is having almost daily conversation with Jose Baez (per TP)

Tracy is writing to KC and putting money in her commissary account (per Fox35)

So after Caylee is found, this group is now no longer showing actions for the BENEFIT of Caylee (justice)??

What is wrong with this picture????        ::MonkeyEek::  Interesting I thought.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 07:13:10 PM
I think this was posted on WS...a friend sent it to me while we were out.....it's said to be a  picture of Tracy.


http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr260/momtective/TracyM.jpg
I just saw that myself, I guess that is Tracy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 07:17:39 PM
One more st*pid question. Sorry to be such a bother.

Did Cindy know she was being taped by this Commander guy?

I am trying to listen to it, but the background noisy is driving me crazy.

TIA JSM

I don't think she knew.  Usually they 'announce' at the beginning of the tape that they are taping and do you have a problem.  And I also noticed that she didn't shut up even with food in her mouth.  She was sure trying hard to get Yuri in trouble.  Too bad Sin..didn't work.

...and figuring she is the one who reported Yuri posting on WS..we remember those pages someone in that house had printed out from the WS site.

 ::MonkeySkate::  (Love your emotcon)



I didn't know she was the one that did that...makes sense though.


I didn't know that Cindy turned in Yuri either.

Hi Monks!  Whew shopping all done!!  Let's not start stating that as a fact....bluesey was stating that as an assumption....as she said, 'and figuring she is the one who reported Yuri posting on WS'....even though it seems like a reasonable assumption, let's not state it as fact ::MonkeyWink::
Oops Sorry


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 07:20:13 PM
Remember Tracy mentioning the song kc played over and over one day? Here's the words...interesting to say the least ::MonkeyWink::

Sevendust The Past Lyrics:
Beneath the water
that's falling from my eyes
lays a soul I've left behind
the edge of sorrow was
reached but now I'm fine
I've filled the hole I had inside

I pray it doesn't scream my name
so I light a flame and let it breathe
the air that kills the shame

I'm up
I'm down
like a rollercoaster
racing through my life
I've erased the past again

a risky morning
I feel like I'm alive
I can't believe I've made
it through this time
the edge of sorrow I
[ Find more Lyrics on www.mp3lyrics.org/v1hF ]
lived in for some time
(lived in for some time)
has left the hole I have inside

The burnin edge that drowned my hate
was the last thing I ever felt
or thought I could escape

I'm up
I'm down
like a rollercoaster
racing through my life
I've erased the past again [x2]

You led me here then broke me down
the difference is this time around
I will not let you see me drown

I'm up
I'm down
like a rollercoaster
racing through my life
I've erased the past again [x2]

Erased the past again now
Erased the past again

Beneath the water
that's falling from my eyes

Thank you for putting up these lyrics again.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I have been thinking about them this afternoon ever since you posted them, and discussed them with a couple of other people. I had heard them before, but now in retrospect to what we know now, a part of them seems to be a little different to me.

The water part is pretty obvious, because where Caylee was found, and maybe how she was murdered. I have not really come to a conclusion on that, but it is obvious that water figured into the whole thing whether Caylee was drowned, or placed in a watery place.

The flame part refered to in the lyrics keeps sticking in my brain. I don't think fire had anything to do with Caylee's death, but Skanky may have considered that in the disposal of her body. In the end, I don't think that she burned her, but may have carried around the gas cans to mask the odor and had them just in case that is what she decided to do.

I think she used candles to either mask the odor that remained in her head and mind, or as a memorial for Caylee. I wonder if Skanky was known to like to frangrant candles or if she would keep candles burning at times. I know a lot of people love candles. So do I. But maybe they had a particular reason for Skanky. Not that I think she felt so much guilt. I think she could not forget the smell. I also wonder if there were any remains of candles at the remains scene.

I am at a total loss to figure why Spindy would think that the song would be the story of her life. The roller coaster part is clear enough, but the rest boggles my mind. It is hard to get into someone else's heads who think totally different than I can even imagine. When I try, I feel that I have gone off into another demension.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on September 05, 2009, 07:27:11 PM
Hi Monkeys!   ::MonkeyAngel::

Just popping in for a minute as we took a short break from outdoor chores.

I haven't listened to Cindy's audio yet, and haven't been able to bring myself to. But during the timeframe the Anthony's all had LE interviews that they didn't know were recorded and didn't find out till much later and they did have a fit about it when they came out. My guess is that Spindy had no idea at the time that the Commander was taping her. She figured she was ratting Yuri out to his superior and it was on the QT. She probably had no idea until recently he had done it. Good for him!
trying to catch up...
go ahead and listen miss Mae....15 min into it cindy could have been spilling her guts for all i know...i don't know where they are but i'm tellin' you (as i'm listening right now) ya can't hear $hit!   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 05, 2009, 07:31:40 PM

I hope her intention to buddy up with KC was to get more information. That’s about the only thing that will make sense out of her writing and putting money on KC’s jail account. Otherwise, who in their right mind or has an iota of integrity sends money to a woman that murdered her own child? The thought of it makes me ill………

I agree, but what would be the purpose of continuing to send KC money? Actually, what would the purpose be at all, since she had gone back to jail after their time spent together, no?

And why would she email and say she missed them? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 05, 2009, 07:34:19 PM
This whole thing with Tony Padilla and Tracy doesn't set well with me, something is wrong with this picture. I'm bringing this post from WS over, because I think it brings up some good points. And is it true that Tracy emailed the Anthonys after she left their house, and said I miss you guys?  ::MonkeyEek::                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally Posted by Kentjbkent 
I am so puzzled about this....

LP, TP, Rob and Tracy originally got involved in this case for the BENEFIT of Caylee....to find HER.

Shortly after arriving, they become very suspicious of all family member behavior and suspect that Caylee was not abducted by a non-family member.

They seem determined to find her body for the BENEFIT of Caylee.

Caylee is found.

NOW....

TP stands firm on the opinion that the Anthony's are wonderful people, and states he has had contact with them.

TP states that KC was a very nice girl.

LP is having almost daily conversation with Jose Baez (per TP)

Tracy is writing to KC and putting money in her commissary account (per Fox35)

So after Caylee is found, this group is now no longer showing actions for the BENEFIT of Caylee (justice)??

What is wrong with this picture????        ::MonkeyEek::  Interesting I thought.

Very interesting indeed.  I read where someone said TP went to work for the defense...now I haven't a clue if that is true....but if so, it makes his statements about what wonderful folks they are just a whole lot clearer... ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 05, 2009, 07:41:42 PM
OK, this 'rumor' statement whatever....about Tracy sending kc money is bugging the hell outta me.  Who is in tight with Kathy B? I have exchanged several emails with her but I am not 'in tight' ::MonkeyTongue::  We NEED Kathy to get the list of people who have sent money to kc's commissary account. Who wants to do it?  I will if no one else wants to....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: AnnetteInMn on September 05, 2009, 07:48:17 PM
This whole thing with Tony Padilla and Tracy doesn't set well with me, something is wrong with this picture. I'm bringing this post from WS over, because I think it brings up some good points. And is it true that Tracy emailed the Anthonys after she left their house, and said I miss you guys?  ::MonkeyEek::                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally Posted by Kentjbkent 
I am so puzzled about this....

LP, TP, Rob and Tracy originally got involved in this case for the BENEFIT of Caylee....to find HER.

Shortly after arriving, they become very suspicious of all family member behavior and suspect that Caylee was not abducted by a non-family member.

They seem determined to find her body for the BENEFIT of Caylee.

Caylee is found.

NOW....

TP stands firm on the opinion that the Anthony's are wonderful people, and states he has had contact with them.

TP states that KC was a very nice girl.

LP is having almost daily conversation with Jose Baez (per TP)

Tracy is writing to KC and putting money in her commissary account (per Fox35)

So after Caylee is found, this group is now no longer showing actions for the BENEFIT of Caylee (justice)??

What is wrong with this picture????        ::MonkeyEek::  Interesting I thought.


Just a thought based on information shared by LP in his newly released interview.  Mind you I've listed to hours of audio so I may be a bit confused.  I believe LP stated in his interview that Rob & Tracey didn't actually work for him and therefore he was not compensating them for their time.  He also mentioned that Rob & Tracey could possibly gain financially on this case by a book deal, giving information to tabloids etc....     In another part of LP's interview he mentioned that he thought the contract signed by himself and his team (the one I believe Baez presented in court) wasn't worth the paper it was written on.  I'm just thinking that IF any of these things is true perhaps Tracey/Rob/Tony do plan on writing a book/selling a story and keeping in contact with Casey/The Anthony's during the trial phase would certainly provide a different persepective; a different angle for a story.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 07:48:25 PM


Very interesting indeed.  I read where someone said TP went to work for the defense...now I haven't a clue if that is true....but if so, it makes his statements about what wonderful folks they are just a whole lot clearer... ::MonkeyMad::

This whole thing with TP is odd.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: At the very beginning he was very low-key. We all heard that he was really the one backing the bond, and I might have remembered seeing his picture at the beginning, but I just remember LP and Rob being "out there" and TP was more or less the silent backman, but that is just my recollection. I just don't even remember TP being in Orlando when Skanky got out but I have no doubt that he was.

This about face is really puzzling. It seems that he wanted LP to just not be involved after the bond revocation and LP couldn't or wouldn't let it go. It might have caused bad feelings between them, but I can't imagine to this extent. Wasn't Rob with Lenny at Jay Blanchard Park or is my mind playing tricks on me about that?

It really seems that "someone" has gotten to TP, and in the kind of business he is in, I don't think it is a matter of concience, but a matter of money. I wonder who would have so much clout it would sway his mind about the Anthonys?

That was interesting to see the picture posted of Tracy. I always thought it was the heavy-set young woman who was seen with Spindy outside the door, after Skanky was taken to jail the night her bond was revoked. Spindy was talking on the phone, and the woman was hugging her. Does anyone know who she was?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 07:51:55 PM
OK, this 'rumor' statement whatever....about Tracy sending kc money is bugging the hell outta me.  Who is in tight with Kathy B? I have exchanged several emails with her but I am not 'in tight' ::MonkeyTongue::  We NEED Kathy to get the list of people who have sent money to kc's commissary account. Who wants to do it?  I will if no one else wants to....

I am not exactly tight with Kathi, but she has always promptly responded to my questions with an answer, even when she was out of town. I will do it if you want me to.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 07:58:41 PM
AnnetteInMn you could be right, I think Rob isn't like the rest of them, he seems to have moved on, at least for now. And who knows maybe the Anthonys bribed Tracy when she was there, with thoughts of the future, such as money for you Tracy? I don't care for Tracy, I don't trust Tracy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 08:00:43 PM



Just a thought based on information shared by LP in his newly released interview.  Mind you I've listed to hours of audio so I may be a bit confused.  I believe LP stated in his interview that Rob & Tracey didn't actually work for him and therefore he was not compensating them for their time.  He also mentioned that Rob & Tracey could possibly gain financially on this case by a book deal, giving information to tabloids etc....     In another part of LP's interview he mentioned that he thought the contract signed by himself and his team (the one I believe Baez presented in court) wasn't worth the paper it was written on.  I'm just thinking that IF any of these things is true perhaps Tracey/Rob/Tony do plan on writing a book/selling a story and keeping in contact with Casey/The Anthony's during the trial phase would certainly provide a different persepective; a different angle for a story.

I agree with you that LP said Rob and Tracy did not work for him, they did their own thing. I wondered how they were getting paid for their time. LP said he paid for their travel, lodging and food, but the rest was on them. I thought is was a strange set up.

LP is actually a lawyer, and I figure anything he signed, he knew what he was doing. I still think that. He may have advised Rob and Tracy the same thing.

It really would throw a different light on things if there was a book in the works. Who knows, maybe that is the motivation of TP to stay on the good side of the Anthony's. That was a pretty good thought.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 05, 2009, 08:07:02 PM
OK, this 'rumor' statement whatever....about Tracy sending kc money is bugging the hell outta me.  Who is in tight with Kathy B? I have exchanged several emails with her but I am not 'in tight' ::MonkeyTongue::  We NEED Kathy to get the list of people who have sent money to kc's commissary account. Who wants to do it?  I will if no one else wants to....

I am not exactly tight with Kathi, but she has always promptly responded to my questions with an answer, even when she was out of town. I will do it if you want me to.

Go for it!!  ::MonkeyDance:: this is bugging the hell outta me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 08:08:51 PM
Hi Monkeys!   ::MonkeyAngel::

Just popping in for a minute as we took a short break from outdoor chores.

I haven't listened to Cindy's audio yet, and haven't been able to bring myself to. But during the timeframe the Anthony's all had LE interviews that they didn't know were recorded and didn't find out till much later and they did have a fit about it when they came out. My guess is that Spindy had no idea at the time that the Commander was taping her. She figured she was ratting Yuri out to his superior and it was on the QT. She probably had no idea until recently he had done it. Good for him!
trying to catch up...
go ahead and listen miss Mae....15 min into it cindy could have been spilling her guts for all i know...i don't know where they are but i'm tellin' you (as i'm listening right now) ya can't hear $hit!   ::MonkeyMad::

The thought of her grating voice just puts me in a bad frame of mind just thinking about it. I a feeling to good tonight to spoil the mood.

Roll Tide!!!  ::MonkeyFootball:: ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 08:10:23 PM
OK, this 'rumor' statement whatever....about Tracy sending kc money is bugging the hell outta me.  Who is in tight with Kathy B? I have exchanged several emails with her but I am not 'in tight' ::MonkeyTongue::  We NEED Kathy to get the list of people who have sent money to kc's commissary account. Who wants to do it?  I will if no one else wants to....

I am not exactly tight with Kathi, but she has always promptly responded to my questions with an answer, even when she was out of town. I will do it if you want me to.

Go for it!!  ::MonkeyDance:: this is bugging the hell outta me.
Thanks Sunny and Fanny. It was bugging me too, but I didn't want to say anything. Didn't this info about Tracy putting money on the books come from Holly Bristow? Isn't she the reporter that is all sweet with Cindy and George? I hope y'all get an answer. JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 08:10:36 PM
OK, this 'rumor' statement whatever....about Tracy sending kc money is bugging the hell outta me.  Who is in tight with Kathy B? I have exchanged several emails with her but I am not 'in tight' ::MonkeyTongue::  We NEED Kathy to get the list of people who have sent money to kc's commissary account. Who wants to do it?  I will if no one else wants to....

I am not exactly tight with Kathi, but she has always promptly responded to my questions with an answer, even when she was out of town. I will do it if you want me to.

Go for it!!  ::MonkeyDance:: this is bugging the hell outta me.

Ok, being the Labor Day weekend, I can't promise anything, but she will answer me when she can, from previous history. It'll probably be Tuesday when we know anything.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 05, 2009, 08:13:06 PM
OK, this 'rumor' statement whatever....about Tracy sending kc money is bugging the hell outta me.  Who is in tight with Kathy B? I have exchanged several emails with her but I am not 'in tight' ::MonkeyTongue::  We NEED Kathy to get the list of people who have sent money to kc's commissary account. Who wants to do it?  I will if no one else wants to....

I am not exactly tight with Kathi, but she has always promptly responded to my questions with an answer, even when she was out of town. I will do it if you want me to.
A poster(maybe on WS?)posted that Holly Bristol(sp)from whatever media she is from,wrote that tidbit in the papers although I never saw a link for it.It may just be rumor but if anyone truly knows it would be Kathi B.    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 08:18:23 PM
OK, this 'rumor' statement whatever....about Tracy sending kc money is bugging the hell outta me.  Who is in tight with Kathy B? I have exchanged several emails with her but I am not 'in tight' ::MonkeyTongue::  We NEED Kathy to get the list of people who have sent money to kc's commissary account. Who wants to do it?  I will if no one else wants to....

I am not exactly tight with Kathi, but she has always promptly responded to my questions with an answer, even when she was out of town. I will do it if you want me to.

Go for it!!  ::MonkeyDance:: this is bugging the hell outta me.

Done!  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 05, 2009, 08:19:58 PM
This whole thing with Tony Padilla and Tracy doesn't set well with me, something is wrong with this picture. I'm bringing this post from WS over, because I think it brings up some good points. And is it true that Tracy emailed the Anthonys after she left their house, and said I miss you guys?  ::MonkeyEek::                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally Posted by Kentjbkent 
I am so puzzled about this....

LP, TP, Rob and Tracy originally got involved in this case for the BENEFIT of Caylee....to find HER.

Shortly after arriving, they become very suspicious of all family member behavior and suspect that Caylee was not abducted by a non-family member.

They seem determined to find her body for the BENEFIT of Caylee.

Caylee is found.

NOW....

TP stands firm on the opinion that the Anthony's are wonderful people, and states he has had contact with them.

TP states that KC was a very nice girl.

LP is having almost daily conversation with Jose Baez (per TP)

Tracy is writing to KC and putting money in her commissary account (per Fox35)

So after Caylee is found, this group is now no longer showing actions for the BENEFIT of Caylee (justice)??

What is wrong with this picture????        ::MonkeyEek::  Interesting I thought.


Abook deal and publicity?  I hate to say that but that is the way it is looking.  I mean in their interviews with LE they LP made such an item of continuing to state several times that money was available to be made..in one statement in the millions..but that was not his reason for being there.  I am thinking now that they know this little skank used them as a "get out of jail free card "..and it is obvious she is guilty...the more info they have from all involved ..the better the book and movie deals .  No Leonard wouldn't talk to the Globe...because he was on national TV as well as Rob and Tony.  So they may not have been paid for those spots..but when this is over..I will be very surprised if they don't have a book or movie deal..or sell their info to someone who does.  Look..Leonard has his own TV show..why would he shy away from this?  H


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 05, 2009, 08:22:54 PM
I wanted to add that Tony has been all over Websleuths ever since he was involved..has done his talk show round..come on...I think they protest too much.  I don't know them..but I do know they are used to getting paid for what they do...and not one of them seems publicity shy.  You can throw nanners now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 05, 2009, 08:25:28 PM
:smt039 Hi Monkeys!

Thanks for all the links to the Padilla gang interviews. 

Thanks for the link to Cindy's too, though listening to the entire thing yesterday is something that will take me awhile to recover from.  Whoa, she is one incredibly wacky piece of work!

Thanks also to Monkeys who are posting on topic today, making this thread a worthwhile and valuable resource for members like me.  Really appreciate the great, informative, sleuthy discussion going on -- and especially since my Monkey time is limited, as I can only peek in from work when I get a quick break here and there. 

 ::MonkeyDance::  Monkeys Rock! 
(Thanks ANJ for speaking up about o/t "clutter," and thanks for your awesome  reply post, QM...)

Desi


Desi - You are welcome and thank you for validating it was not just me.  You too, QM and the monkeys who wrote me offline frustrated too.  It is nice to see today back on topic! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 08:27:43 PM
I wanted to add that Tony has been all over Websleuths ever since he was involved..has done his talk show round..come on...I think they protest too much.  I don't know them..but I do know they are used to getting paid for what they do...and not one of them seems publicity shy.  You can throw nanners now.

No nanners from me, DD. I think Lenny has had a burr in his saddle ever since the day they got Skanky out, and Bozo changed all the rules. That plus the fact that Skany dissed him after he tried to help her. TP, I haven't a clue, except I know money talks in his business. No one is doing what they do for pro bono.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 08:28:09 PM
I wanted to add that Tony has been all over Websleuths ever since he was involved..has done his talk show round..come on...I think they protest too much.  I don't know them..but I do know they are used to getting paid for what they do...and not one of them seems publicity shy.  You can throw nanners now.
I agree, and has anyone heard this?  And now we find out the female bounty hunter is merely LP's typist? That's the talk on WS, Blink will know I'm sure if this is true or not.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 08:29:09 PM
:smt039 Hi Monkeys!

Thanks for all the links to the Padilla gang interviews. 

Thanks for the link to Cindy's too, though listening to the entire thing yesterday is something that will take me awhile to recover from.  Whoa, she is one incredibly wacky piece of work!

Thanks also to Monkeys who are posting on topic today, making this thread a worthwhile and valuable resource for members like me.  Really appreciate the great, informative, sleuthy discussion going on -- and especially since my Monkey time is limited, as I can only peek in from work when I get a quick break here and there. 

 ::MonkeyDance::  Monkeys Rock! 
(Thanks ANJ for speaking up about o/t "clutter," and thanks for your awesome  reply post, QM...)

Desi


Desi - You are welcome and thank you for validating it was not just me.  You too, QM and the monkeys who wrote me offline frustrated too.  It is nice to see today back on topic! 

I guess you would have just had to be here to understand.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 08:30:47 PM
I wanted to add that Tony has been all over Websleuths ever since he was involved..has done his talk show round..come on...I think they protest too much.  I don't know them..but I do know they are used to getting paid for what they do...and not one of them seems publicity shy.  You can throw nanners now.
I agree, and has anyone heard this?  And now we find out the female bounty hunter is merely LP's typist? That's the talk on WS, Blink will know I'm sure if this is true or not.


I tried to listen again, and I never did see what her qualifications were to have gone to Orlando in the first place. That may be true.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 05, 2009, 08:34:17 PM



Just a thought based on information shared by LP in his newly released interview.  Mind you I've listed to hours of audio so I may be a bit confused.  I believe LP stated in his interview that Rob & Tracey didn't actually work for him and therefore he was not compensating them for their time.  He also mentioned that Rob & Tracey could possibly gain financially on this case by a book deal, giving information to tabloids etc....     In another part of LP's interview he mentioned that he thought the contract signed by himself and his team (the one I believe Baez presented in court) wasn't worth the paper it was written on.  I'm just thinking that IF any of these things is true perhaps Tracey/Rob/Tony do plan on writing a book/selling a story and keeping in contact with Casey/The Anthony's during the trial phase would certainly provide a different persepective; a different angle for a story.

I agree with you that LP said Rob and Tracy did not work for him, they did their own thing. I wondered how they were getting paid for their time. LP said he paid for their travel, lodging and food, but the rest was on them. I thought is was a strange set up.

LP is actually a lawyer, and I figure anything he signed, he knew what he was doing. I still think that. He may have advised Rob and Tracy the same thing.

It really would throw a different light on things if there was a book in the works. Who knows, maybe that is the motivation of TP to stay on the good side of the Anthony's. That was a pretty good thought.  ::MonkeyDance::

TP has stated on the WS site several times that he is thinking of writing a book....  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 08:35:35 PM



Just a thought based on information shared by LP in his newly released interview.  Mind you I've listed to hours of audio so I may be a bit confused.  I believe LP stated in his interview that Rob & Tracey didn't actually work for him and therefore he was not compensating them for their time.  He also mentioned that Rob & Tracey could possibly gain financially on this case by a book deal, giving information to tabloids etc....     In another part of LP's interview he mentioned that he thought the contract signed by himself and his team (the one I believe Baez presented in court) wasn't worth the paper it was written on.  I'm just thinking that IF any of these things is true perhaps Tracey/Rob/Tony do plan on writing a book/selling a story and keeping in contact with Casey/The Anthony's during the trial phase would certainly provide a different persepective; a different angle for a story.

I agree with you that LP said Rob and Tracy did not work for him, they did their own thing. I wondered how they were getting paid for their time. LP said he paid for their travel, lodging and food, but the rest was on them. I thought is was a strange set up.

LP is actually a lawyer, and I figure anything he signed, he knew what he was doing. I still think that. He may have advised Rob and Tracy the same thing.

It really would throw a different light on things if there was a book in the works. Who knows, maybe that is the motivation of TP to stay on the good side of the Anthony's. That was a pretty good thought.  ::MonkeyDance::

TP has stated on the WS site several times that he is thinking of writing a book....  ::MonkeyRoll::

I guess the agreement he signed wasn't worth the paper it was written on either.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 05, 2009, 08:45:55 PM
One thing that really struck in Tracy's interview was th einfo where Casey says, "They haven't even found the clothes she was wearing yet?"   The part of that where she says the clothes she was wearing sent off alarm bells for me.  Previously to either her parents or Lee in the jail house tapes she said , They haven't found her clothes yet".

Which brings me back to her friend, I forget his name, who she visited  with his mother , and when Casey was gone they discovered this bag with Caylee's swimwear in it.  I think she drowned her in the pool, after cloroforming her..no muss, no mess.  The clothes that she left at her friend's house were left there because she felt they might have decomp on them.  She was also getting rid of evidence and setting up one more person.   I also think the calls from her in the area of the house on 6/16 were to show she was there after  the Blanchard , err Sawgrass fiasco..trying to reach family and friends to get help....another throw off.  When no one seems to answer she leaves for Tony's and a night of snuggling watching movies ..err a safe place.

Alot of her lies and the timeline also feed into mistruths about why she was where she was and why she called others.  The more I hear from all partys ..the more I believe this was premeditated due to Caylee's growing vocabulary and ability to tell Cindy just what the hell was going on.  I have no doubt there was a huge fight on 6/15 over what Caylee was able to tell her CC about the goings on recently.  I also think prior to this she used Caylee as a decoy while she shoplifted..and then she realizes Caylee can say what happened. So she has more of a need to steal from friends and others rather then just shoplift.  Just my two cents.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 05, 2009, 08:46:16 PM
:smt039 Hi Monkeys!

Thanks for all the links to the Padilla gang interviews. 

Thanks for the link to Cindy's too, though listening to the entire thing yesterday is something that will take me awhile to recover from.  Whoa, she is one incredibly wacky piece of work!

Thanks also to Monkeys who are posting on topic today, making this thread a worthwhile and valuable resource for members like me.  Really appreciate the great, informative, sleuthy discussion going on -- and especially since my Monkey time is limited, as I can only peek in from work when I get a quick break here and there. 

 ::MonkeyDance::  Monkeys Rock! 
(Thanks ANJ for speaking up about o/t "clutter," and thanks for your awesome  reply post, QM...)

Desi


Desi - You are welcome and thank you for validating it was not just me.  You too, QM and the monkeys who wrote me offline frustrated too.  It is nice to see today back on topic! 

I guess you would have just had to be here to understand.

Why am I not surprised you feel the need to justify it?  I don't know why you feel you must answer every post; but I was sucking it up in my big girl panties - listening to cindy, lenny, tracy, rob, etc.  Then I came here to read to see what goodies the thread had found, and what I could share that had not been discussed.  But after 20 pages of where people stole smileys from, what was for dinner, all the private jokes (I am sure you will understand) and lack of substance, I was shocked.  Looks like today some people are getting to discuss the findings and it is actually about CAYLEE again. 

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 05, 2009, 08:47:32 PM
I wanted to add that Tony has been all over Websleuths ever since he was involved..has done his talk show round..come on...I think they protest too much.  I don't know them..but I do know they are used to getting paid for what they do...and not one of them seems publicity shy.  You can throw nanners now.
I agree, and has anyone heard this?  And now we find out the female bounty hunter is merely LP's typist? That's the talk on WS, Blink will know I'm sure if this is true or not.


I tried to listen again, and I never did see what her qualifications were to have gone to Orlando in the first place. That may be true.

They ask her at the start of the interview how she came to be involved in this situation and what her working relationship with Leonard is and she responds that she has known him a long time, worked for him off and on, and does umm computer stuff. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 08:55:51 PM
One thing that really struck in Tracy's interview was th einfo where Casey says, "They haven't even found the clothes she was wearing yet?"   The part of that where she says the clothes she was wearing sent off alarm bells for me.  Previously to either her parents or Lee in the jail house tapes she said , They haven't found her clothes yet".

Which brings me back to her friend, I forget his name, who she visited  with his mother , and when Casey was gone they discovered this bag with Caylee's swimwear in it.  I think she drowned her in the pool, after cloroforming her..no muss, no mess.  The clothes that she left at her friend's house were left there because she felt they might have decomp on them.  She was also getting rid of evidence and setting up one more person.   I also think the calls from her in the area of the house on 6/16 were to show she was there after  the Blanchard , err Sawgrass fiasco..trying to reach family and friends to get help....another throw off.  When no one seems to answer she leaves for Tony's and a night of snuggling watching movies ..err a safe place.

Alot of her lies and the timeline also feed into mistruths about why she was where she was and why she called others.  The more I hear from all partys ..the more I believe this was premeditated due to Caylee's growing vocabulary and ability to tell Cindy just what the hell was going on.  I have no doubt there was a huge fight on 6/15 over what Caylee was able to tell her CC about the goings on recently.  I also think prior to this she used Caylee as a decoy while she shoplifted..and then she realizes Caylee can say what happened. So she has more of a need to steal from friends and others rather then just shoplift.  Just my two cents.

The only thing that throws me off about Caylee being drowned is the duct tape. It would have had to be done almost immediately afterwards. I can't reconcile that. The rest of your post, I can agree with.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 08:57:03 PM
One thing that really struck in Tracy's interview was th einfo where Casey says, "They haven't even found the clothes she was wearing yet?"   The part of that where she says the clothes she was wearing sent off alarm bells for me.  Previously to either her parents or Lee in the jail house tapes she said , They haven't found her clothes yet".

Which brings me back to her friend, I forget his name, who she visited  with his mother , and when Casey was gone they discovered this bag with Caylee's swimwear in it.  I think she drowned her in the pool, after cloroforming her..no muss, no mess.  The clothes that she left at her friend's house were left there because she felt they might have decomp on them.  She was also getting rid of evidence and setting up one more person.   I also think the calls from her in the area of the house on 6/16 were to show she was there after  the Blanchard , err Sawgrass fiasco..trying to reach family and friends to get help....another throw off.  When no one seems to answer she leaves for Tony's and a night of snuggling watching movies ..err a safe place.

Alot of her lies and the timeline also feed into mistruths about why she was where she was and why she called others.  The more I hear from all partys ..the more I believe this was premeditated due to Caylee's growing vocabulary and ability to tell Cindy just what the hell was going on.  I have no doubt there was a huge fight on 6/15 over what Caylee was able to tell her CC about the goings on recently.  I also think prior to this she used Caylee as a decoy while she shoplifted..and then she realizes Caylee can say what happened. So she has more of a need to steal from friends and others rather then just shoplift.  Just my two cents.
Gypsy, for what my opinion is worth (which btw is not much). I have always thought she threw the baby in the pool and walked away. Then when the duct tape evidence came out, it made me think KC taped over her nose and mouth before she threw Caylee in the pool. I have always thought that is what happened and that is why they found decomp close to the pool. Supposedly the decomp starts immediately, so if she pulls Caylee out of the pool, leaves her on the ground by the pool, the decomp started and that is why the dogs hit there. Plus all the calls she made to George and Cindy and she would have needed time to get ready for her hot date with Tony that night would have given time for the decomp to set in before she moved Caylee into the trunk. That is just my opinion. I hope that makes sense


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 08:59:07 PM
One thing that really struck in Tracy's interview was th einfo where Casey says, "They haven't even found the clothes she was wearing yet?"   The part of that where she says the clothes she was wearing sent off alarm bells for me.  Previously to either her parents or Lee in the jail house tapes she said , They haven't found her clothes yet".

Which brings me back to her friend, I forget his name, who she visited  with his mother , and when Casey was gone they discovered this bag with Caylee's swimwear in it.  I think she drowned her in the pool, after cloroforming her..no muss, no mess.  The clothes that she left at her friend's house were left there because she felt they might have decomp on them.  She was also getting rid of evidence and setting up one more person.   I also think the calls from her in the area of the house on 6/16 were to show she was there after  the Blanchard , err Sawgrass fiasco..trying to reach family and friends to get help....another throw off.  When no one seems to answer she leaves for Tony's and a night of snuggling watching movies ..err a safe place.

Alot of her lies and the timeline also feed into mistruths about why she was where she was and why she called others.  The more I hear from all partys ..the more I believe this was premeditated due to Caylee's growing vocabulary and ability to tell Cindy just what the hell was going on.  I have no doubt there was a huge fight on 6/15 over what Caylee was able to tell her CC about the goings on recently.  I also think prior to this she used Caylee as a decoy while she shoplifted..and then she realizes Caylee can say what happened. So she has more of a need to steal from friends and others rather then just shoplift.  Just my two cents.

The only thing that throws me off about Caylee being drowned is the duct tape. It would have had to be done almost immediately afterwards. I can't reconcile that. The rest of your post, I can agree with.
Fanny I think she duct taped her prior to throwing her in the pool. I have always thought that since the duct tape findings came out. JMO JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 05, 2009, 09:00:34 PM


And why would she email and say she missed them? 

Here's a crazy thought...What if Tracy is sending money etc, because she has some guilt in what she has said to LE, about the behavior of KC and the rest of the A's, knowing that she had gotten "close" to KC, and since KC is so sure of a "mistrial", that she is all too forgiving and seeing dollar signs from the books, movies, whatever after she's released...

 ::MonkeyCheer2:: I don't know, everything about this is crazy!  ::MonkeyCheer2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 09:02:12 PM
I wanted to add that Tony has been all over Websleuths ever since he was involved..has done his talk show round..come on...I think they protest too much.  I don't know them..but I do know they are used to getting paid for what they do...and not one of them seems publicity shy.  You can throw nanners now.
I agree, and has anyone heard this?  And now we find out the female bounty hunter is merely LP's typist? That's the talk on WS, Blink will know I'm sure if this is true or not.


I tried to listen again, and I never did see what her qualifications were to have gone to Orlando in the first place. That may be true.

They ask her at the start of the interview how she came to be involved in this situation and what her working relationship with Leonard is and she responds that she has known him a long time, worked for him off and on, and does umm computer stuff. 

You are right. I do remember that. Good catch!

Just a guess on my part, but I am wondering if they didn't know of a female bounty hunter that was available to go with them, or didn't want the job. Why I say that, is when I worked for LE as a dispatcher, sometimes when there was no female officers on duty, and they needed a female to search another female prisoner in the docket room or in the detective bureau they would ask one of us would go do it. Maybe they knew ahead of time they were going to need a female to do the job, and they knew Tracy and asked her to do it. Just a guess on my part.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 09:07:27 PM
I wanted to add that Tony has been all over Websleuths ever since he was involved..has done his talk show round..come on...I think they protest too much.  I don't know them..but I do know they are used to getting paid for what they do...and not one of them seems publicity shy.  You can throw nanners now.
I agree, and has anyone heard this?  And now we find out the female bounty hunter is merely LP's typist? That's the talk on WS, Blink will know I'm sure if this is true or not.


I tried to listen again, and I never did see what her qualifications were to have gone to Orlando in the first place. That may be true.

They ask her at the start of the interview how she came to be involved in this situation and what her working relationship with Leonard is and she responds that she has known him a long time, worked for him off and on, and does umm computer stuff. 

You are right. I do remember that. Good catch!

Just a guess on my part, but I am wondering if they didn't know of a female bounty hunter that was available to go with them, or didn't want the job. Why I say that, is when I worked for LE as a dispatcher, sometimes when there was no female officers on duty, and they needed a female to search another female prisoner in the docket room or in the detective bureau they would ask one of us would go do it. Maybe they knew ahead of time they were going to need a female to do the job, and they knew Tracy and asked her to do it. Just a guess on my part.
That makes sense to me about the reason they chose Tracy. I am sure there aren't too many female bounty hunters in this world (besides the Dog's wife) so Tracy was chosen to go along. IDK


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 05, 2009, 09:08:26 PM
One thing that really struck in Tracy's interview was th einfo where Casey says, "They haven't even found the clothes she was wearing yet?"   The part of that where she says the clothes she was wearing sent off alarm bells for me.  Previously to either her parents or Lee in the jail house tapes she said , They haven't found her clothes yet".

Which brings me back to her friend, I forget his name, who she visited  with his mother , and when Casey was gone they discovered this bag with Caylee's swimwear in it.  I think she drowned her in the pool, after cloroforming her..no muss, no mess.  The clothes that she left at her friend's house were left there because she felt they might have decomp on them.  She was also getting rid of evidence and setting up one more person.   I also think the calls from her in the area of the house on 6/16 were to show she was there after  the Blanchard , err Sawgrass fiasco..trying to reach family and friends to get help....another throw off.  When no one seems to answer she leaves for Tony's and a night of snuggling watching movies ..err a safe place.

Alot of her lies and the timeline also feed into mistruths about why she was where she was and why she called others.  The more I hear from all partys ..the more I believe this was premeditated due to Caylee's growing vocabulary and ability to tell Cindy just what the hell was going on.  I have no doubt there was a huge fight on 6/15 over what Caylee was able to tell her CC about the goings on recently.  I also think prior to this she used Caylee as a decoy while she shoplifted..and then she realizes Caylee can say what happened. So she has more of a need to steal from friends and others rather then just shoplift.  Just my two cents.

The only thing that throws me off about Caylee being drowned is the duct tape. It would have had to be done almost immediately afterwards. I can't reconcile that. The rest of your post, I can agree with.
Fanny I think she duct taped her prior to throwing her in the pool. I have always thought that since the duct tape findings came out. JMO JSM


 I've always thought that she killed Caylee before the pool, and after awhile when it started to get messy, she tried to clean her off by throwing her in the pool, used the shovel to get her out. The tape, I think, was to keep her fluids in while in the pool. I hate thinking of any of the ways it could have happened.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 05, 2009, 09:13:59 PM
I wanted to add that Tony has been all over Websleuths ever since he was involved..has done his talk show round..come on...I think they protest too much.  I don't know them..but I do know they are used to getting paid for what they do...and not one of them seems publicity shy.  You can throw nanners now.
I agree, and has anyone heard this?  And now we find out the female bounty hunter is merely LP's typist? That's the talk on WS, Blink will know I'm sure if this is true or not.


No Rose at the beginning of LP's interview with LE he more or less states that Tracy is his gal Friday..multi talented, does his typing, but also that she runs down stuff on the internet sites on felons, etc.

 So he put together this team to find  an alive Caylee and bring her home.  $50,000 was a small price to be able to use that footage on his show, write books, get a movie deal..and everyone could do the talk show circuit. 

When he got there an realized that Skanky was not talking, babygirl was dead probably, but who knew where...he was pzzed..but still kept up the media circus.  I think they all thought they could be heroes and get unlimited publicity and their pick of talk shows, book and movie deals.  And LP does not mince words about how Baez and Company are being paid...huge deposits for the story they will deliver when the trial is through. 

Which brings us to Casey understanding about selling pics, the money coming in on fundraisers ..and her looking good for the media.

I feel SO used by this story...lots of other missing children never get this publicity because their families are unwilling to sell their souls for a gold dablone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 09:24:48 PM



 I've always thought that she killed Caylee before the pool, and after awhile when it started to get messy, she tried to clean her off by throwing her in the pool, used the shovel to get her out. The tape, I think, was to keep her fluids in while in the pool. I hate thinking of any of the ways it could have happened.

Frankly, I always have too. Since this evidence that Lenny often hinted at about Caylee being in the pool, and Tracy's talk about the shovel and the ladder in the pool, I have tried to rethink it. I still come back to Caylee already being dead when she was placed in the pool. I can think of no reason for the ladder being in the pool, and the only thing I can come up with was there was decomp on it too, and she threw it in to wash it off. And the fact that Spindy and George covered the ladder and the open gate tells me they knew something early on.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 05, 2009, 09:31:57 PM
I would find someone coming into my yard..leaving a gate open and the pool ladder in the pool..when it normaly is kept away from the pool..much creepier then someone breaking into my shed and stealing a gasoline can.  Stealing a can of gasoline..well that seems normal..breaking into my yard gate and helping themselves to a swim in my pool is just creepy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 05, 2009, 09:37:26 PM




Frankly, I always have too. Since this evidence that Lenny often hinted at about Caylee being in the pool, and Tracy's talk about the shovel and the ladder in the pool, I have tried to rethink it. I still come back to Caylee already being dead when she was placed in the pool. I can think of no reason for the ladder being in the pool, and the only thing I can come up with was there was decomp on it too, and she threw it in to wash it off. And the fact that Spindy and George covered the ladder and the open gate tells me they knew something early on.

Maybe the decomp got on the ladder from KC sliding Caylee on it to prevent a splash, or any noise. She was probably placed on the ground while she threw the ladder in the pool, leaving the scent for the dogs. Or she rinsed her (KC) clothes afterwards. I definitely think they realized not too long after, what had really happened to Caylee, but am not convinced they knew form the beginning. I dunno, I could change my mind, as I have done countless times already.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 09:37:45 PM



 I've always thought that she killed Caylee before the pool, and after awhile when it started to get messy, she tried to clean her off by throwing her in the pool, used the shovel to get her out. The tape, I think, was to keep her fluids in while in the pool. I hate thinking of any of the ways it could have happened.

Frankly, I always have too. Since this evidence that Lenny often hinted at about Caylee being in the pool, and Tracy's talk about the shovel and the ladder in the pool, I have tried to rethink it. I still come back to Caylee already being dead when she was placed in the pool. I can think of no reason for the ladder being in the pool, and the only thing I can come up with was there was decomp on it too, and she threw it in to wash it off. And the fact that Spindy and George covered the ladder and the open gate tells me they knew something early on.
Perhaps she was dead before being in the pool, but KC is evil and I have always had this horrible thought that she put Caylee in the pool and either walked off or sat there and watched her struggle until she drowned. I know Caylee wore a lifejacket and couldn't swim, but it is possible she could dog paddle enough to get to the ladder and that is why the ladder was in the pool or taken away from the pool. IDK, this probably does't make sense. I just keep going back to that movie The Bad Seed and I see KC as Rhoda when she pushed that kid into the water and watched him drown. I know it sounds dumb, but I have always thought of that movie when I first started reading about this case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 05, 2009, 09:37:56 PM


And why would she email and say she missed them? 

Here's a crazy thought...What if Tracy is sending money etc, because she has some guilt in what she has said to LE, about the behavior of KC and the rest of the A's, knowing that she had gotten "close" to KC, and since KC is so sure of a "mistrial", that she is all too forgiving and seeing dollar signs from the books, movies, whatever after she's released...

 ::MonkeyCheer2:: I don't know, everything about this is crazy!  ::MonkeyCheer2::

That could very well be Gizzy..to me about now..no one involved in this case seems the least bit normal.  So she maybe feeling guilt..but hoping for a return letter from jail or thank you note for her book deal or movie..one more piece of paper to flash.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 09:39:53 PM
I would find someone coming into my yard..leaving a gate open and the pool ladder in the pool..when it normaly is kept away from the pool..much creepier then someone breaking into my shed and stealing a gasoline can.  Stealing a can of gasoline..well that seems normal..breaking into my yard gate and helping themselves to a swim in my pool is just creepy.

So true. I would report that a lot quicker than a gas can being gone.

I share your feeling of being used in our interest in this case. I remember someone on the net saying when Lenny came in to bond Caylee out that the circus was coming to town, and there would be so much more to follow. Never in my wildest dreams did I believe that to be true at the time and what it was going to turn into.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 09:40:51 PM
I would find someone coming into my yard..leaving a gate open and the pool ladder in the pool..when it normaly is kept away from the pool..much creepier then someone breaking into my shed and stealing a gasoline can.  Stealing a can of gasoline..well that seems normal..breaking into my yard gate and helping themselves to a swim in my pool is just creepy.
I can't imagine the Ants not having a lock on the yard gate and yes I would be crazy if someone came into my yard and used my pool more so than stealing gas cans.

I think the ladder story Cindy and George told was another lie. JMO JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 05, 2009, 09:47:50 PM
One other thing I thought was interesting is how George said no guns in the house.  I don't have guns in my house either..but I am not under seige by protesters , the media, nor death threats, AND NO BOUNTY HUNTERS LIVING INSIDE OR OUTSIDE MY HOUSE.  So he tells LP and crew no guns in the house..they comply.

Yet he goes out and purchases a gun himself and hides it in the boot of his car????  And that was while they were still there.  So why didn't he let them have the guns they normally carry in his house?   Was he afraid while Tracey and the household slept, Casey would take Tracy's gun and kill them or make a break for it? 

 I think George and Cindy had actually grown afraid of Casey and contradicting her to a certain extent.  I think she used Caylee for leverage and once Caylee was dead..and they knew that by then..they wondered if they were safe with her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 09:51:31 PM
I wanted to add that Tony has been all over Websleuths ever since he was involved..has done his talk show round..come on...I think they protest too much.  I don't know them..but I do know they are used to getting paid for what they do...and not one of them seems publicity shy.  You can throw nanners now.
I agree, and has anyone heard this?  And now we find out the female bounty hunter is merely LP's typist? That's the talk on WS, Blink will know I'm sure if this is true or not.


No Rose at the beginning of LP's interview with LE he more or less states that Tracy is his gal Friday..multi talented, does his typing, but also that she runs down stuff on the internet sites on felons, etc.

 So he put together this team to find  an alive Caylee and bring her home.  $50,000 was a small price to be able to use that footage on his show, write books, get a movie deal..and everyone could do the talk show circuit. 

When he got there an realized that Skanky was not talking, babygirl was dead probably, but who knew where...he was pzzed..but still kept up the media circus.  I think they all thought they could be heroes and get unlimited publicity and their pick of talk shows, book and movie deals.  And LP does not mince words about how Baez and Company are being paid...huge deposits for the story they will deliver when the trial is through. 

Which brings us to Casey understanding about selling pics, the money coming in on fundraisers ..and her looking good for the media.

I feel SO used by this story...lots of other missing children never get this publicity because their families are unwilling to sell their souls for a gold dablone.
I couldn't agree more, so many children whose families would give anything for publicity, to go on a nationwide show. All this unnecessary attention to an insane family, all the money spent because the entire family doesn't have a shred of morality in them, and wouldn't know morality if it jumped up and bit them in the azz. And the insanity just keeps rolling along, Casey should have taken a plea deal, that way at least there would be some justice for Caylee. The way all this is going, all I can say is let's hope if this goes to trial the jury will do the right thing. The circus like atmosphere that will be surrounding the upcoming trial already has me sick.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 09:52:30 PM
I would find someone coming into my yard..leaving a gate open and the pool ladder in the pool..when it normaly is kept away from the pool..much creepier then someone breaking into my shed and stealing a gasoline can.  Stealing a can of gasoline..well that seems normal..breaking into my yard gate and helping themselves to a swim in my pool is just creepy.
I can't imagine the Ants not having a lock on the yard gate and yes I would be crazy if someone came into my yard and used my pool more so than stealing gas cans.

I think the ladder story Cindy and George told was another lie. JMO JSM

I actually did think there was a lock on the gate, and that Casey had unlocked it, and that was why they thought it may have something to do with her. Maybe the key was inside the house. I have never known anyone with a pool that did not lock their gate when they were not home and even when they were. Especially in a neighborhood with children and teens. There is just so much liability, and the Anthonys have always seemed security concious to me. The Anthonys may not have known what had happened to Caylee, but she had not been seen and after Spindy made the 911 call, they brought up the gate and the pool on their own several days later. The pool has always been the elephant in the room.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 09:55:51 PM
I would find someone coming into my yard..leaving a gate open and the pool ladder in the pool..when it normaly is kept away from the pool..much creepier then someone breaking into my shed and stealing a gasoline can.  Stealing a can of gasoline..well that seems normal..breaking into my yard gate and helping themselves to a swim in my pool is just creepy.
Yes, and not only that, if you leave your gate unlocked and a child wonders into your yard and drowns in your pool, I'm sure there would be lawsuits. And just the thought of something like that happening would have most people horribly upset that something like that happened in their yard. But instead the Anthonys called about a gas can  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 05, 2009, 09:55:52 PM
I wanted to add that Tony has been all over Websleuths ever since he was involved..has done his talk show round..come on...I think they protest too much.  I don't know them..but I do know they are used to getting paid for what they do...and not one of them seems publicity shy.  You can throw nanners now.
I agree, and has anyone heard this?  And now we find out the female bounty hunter is merely LP's typist? That's the talk on WS, Blink will know I'm sure if this is true or not.


I tried to listen again, and I never did see what her qualifications were to have gone to Orlando in the first place. That may be true.

They ask her at the start of the interview how she came to be involved in this situation and what her working relationship with Leonard is and she responds that she has known him a long time, worked for him off and on, and does umm computer stuff. 

You are right. I do remember that. Good catch!

Just a guess on my part, but I am wondering if they didn't know of a female bounty hunter that was available to go with them, or didn't want the job. Why I say that, is when I worked for LE as a dispatcher, sometimes when there was no female officers on duty, and they needed a female to search another female prisoner in the docket room or in the detective bureau they would ask one of us would go do it. Maybe they knew ahead of time they were going to need a female to do the job, and they knew Tracy and asked her to do it. Just a guess on my part.
That makes sense to me about the reason they chose Tracy. I am sure there aren't too many female bounty hunters in this world (besides the Dog's wife) so Tracy was chosen to go along. IDK

Yes, since someone was required to be with her all the time it more or less has to be a female chaperone....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 09:56:45 PM
One other thing I thought was interesting is how George said no guns in the house.  I don't have guns in my house either..but I am not under seige by protesters , the media, nor death threats, AND NO BOUNTY HUNTERS LIVING INSIDE OR OUTSIDE MY HOUSE.  So he tells LP and crew no guns in the house..they comply.

Yet he goes out and purchases a gun himself and hides it in the boot of his car????  And that was while they were still there.  So why didn't he let them have the guns they normally carry in his house?   Was he afraid while Tracey and the household slept, Casey would take Tracy's gun and kill them or make a break for it? 

 I think George and Cindy had actually grown afraid of Casey and contradicting her to a certain extent.  I think she used Caylee for leverage and once Caylee was dead..and they knew that by then..they wondered if they were safe with her.
Gypsy, I too was confused about the "no gun" policy George and Jim had. The reason they said was since Caylee was born, no guns in the house, but I thought that since KC was home there that was part of her home confinement. I may be wrong, but it just seemed strange to me that ex LE wouldn't have guns.

That is why I asked earlier what date George was found with the gun in his car. It was Sept 5th, so I think this was after LP and Tracy left town. I'm really confused about George and the gun. Maybe he was scared of KC or was going to use it to get a confession out of her. IDK.

Anyone know what date LP and Tracy left? I swear it was before the 5th of September. TIA JSM 


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Post by: Gizzie on September 05, 2009, 09:58:02 PM


That could very well be Gizzy..to me about now..no one involved in this case seems the least bit normal.  So she maybe feeling guilt..but hoping for a return letter from jail or thank you note for her book deal or movie..one more piece of paper to flash.

Do they need any kind of permission from KC to write about this? Probably not, right? But if she were to have KC on her side for a book, wouldn't the information received be all the more credible?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 09:58:31 PM
I would find someone coming into my yard..leaving a gate open and the pool ladder in the pool..when it normaly is kept away from the pool..much creepier then someone breaking into my shed and stealing a gasoline can.  Stealing a can of gasoline..well that seems normal..breaking into my yard gate and helping themselves to a swim in my pool is just creepy.
I can't imagine the Ants not having a lock on the yard gate and yes I would be crazy if someone came into my yard and used my pool more so than stealing gas cans.

I think the ladder story Cindy and George told was another lie. JMO JSM

I actually did think there was a lock on the gate, and that Casey had unlocked it, and that was why they thought it may have something to do with her. Maybe the key was inside the house. I have never known anyone with a pool that did not lock their gate when they were not home and even when they were. Especially in a neighborhood with children and teens. There is just so much liability, and the Anthonys have always seemed security concious to me. The Anthonys may not have known what had happened to Caylee, but she had not been seen and after Spindy made the 911 call, they brought up the gate and the pool on their own several days later. The pool has always been the elephant in the room.
Yes it has Fanny.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 10:01:14 PM
I would find someone coming into my yard..leaving a gate open and the pool ladder in the pool..when it normaly is kept away from the pool..much creepier then someone breaking into my shed and stealing a gasoline can.  Stealing a can of gasoline..well that seems normal..breaking into my yard gate and helping themselves to a swim in my pool is just creepy.
Yes, and not only that, if you leave your gate unlocked and a child wonders into your yard and drowns in your pool, I'm sure there would be lawsuits. And just the thought of something like that happening would have most people horribly upset that something like that happened in their yard. But instead the Anthonys called about a gas can  ::MonkeyConfused::
They called about the gas cans, because that actually happened. No one came into their yard and messed with the pool until they made the story up on Greta's show. I may be wrong though.


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Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 10:04:37 PM
One other thing I thought was interesting is how George said no guns in the house.  I don't have guns in my house either..but I am not under seige by protesters , the media, nor death threats, AND NO BOUNTY HUNTERS LIVING INSIDE OR OUTSIDE MY HOUSE.  So he tells LP and crew no guns in the house..they comply.

Yet he goes out and purchases a gun himself and hides it in the boot of his car????  And that was while they were still there.  So why didn't he let them have the guns they normally carry in his house?   Was he afraid while Tracey and the household slept, Casey would take Tracy's gun and kill them or make a break for it? 

 I think George and Cindy had actually grown afraid of Casey and contradicting her to a certain extent.  I think she used Caylee for leverage and once Caylee was dead..and they knew that by then..they wondered if they were safe with her.

The part about the no-guns stuck out to me too. LE and Security Guards are notorious for having guns. Even when they are no longer in the business, my experience is they always have guns, multiple guns usually. There is a certain paranoia that goes with being in law enforcement of any kind. They are very adept at hiding them in places no one would think of looking.

 I don't for a minute think that the gun in the boot of the car was the only gun George had access to, even after Casey came home. Why he bought that one when he did, I cannot explain, other than the fact that the others were so well concealed and so hard to get to, that he bought another to have easier access to. There were so many people in the house at the time, they would have noticed if he started to dig one out.


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 05, 2009, 10:13:28 PM
I would find someone coming into my yard..leaving a gate open and the pool ladder in the pool..when it normaly is kept away from the pool..much creepier then someone breaking into my shed and stealing a gasoline can.  Stealing a can of gasoline..well that seems normal..breaking into my yard gate and helping themselves to a swim in my pool is just creepy.
Yes, and not only that, if you leave your gate unlocked and a child wonders into your yard and drowns in your pool, I'm sure there would be lawsuits. And just the thought of something like that happening would have most people horribly upset that something like that happened in their yard. But instead the Anthonys called about a gas can  ::MonkeyConfused::
They called about the gas cans, because that actually happened. No one came into their yard and messed with the pool until they made the story up on Greta's show. I may be wrong though.
No, you are not wrong, but you'd think with them not seeing Caylee and being worried, a stolen gas can would be not to much of a big deal.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
I would find someone coming into my yard..leaving a gate open and the pool ladder in the pool..when it normaly is kept away from the pool..much creepier then someone breaking into my shed and stealing a gasoline can.  Stealing a can of gasoline..well that seems normal..breaking into my yard gate and helping themselves to a swim in my pool is just creepy.
Yes, and not only that, if you leave your gate unlocked and a child wonders into your yard and drowns in your pool, I'm sure there would be lawsuits. And just the thought of something like that happening would have most people horribly upset that something like that happened in their yard. But instead the Anthonys called about a gas can  ::MonkeyConfused::
They called about the gas cans, because that actually happened. No one came into their yard and messed with the pool until they made the story up on Greta's show. I may be wrong though.
No, you are not wrong, but you'd think with them not seeing Caylee and being worried, a stolen gas can would be not to much of a big deal.
Yeah, you would think they would be worried about Caylee being missing for so long, but they are both idiots that believed everything that Skanky said or at least that is what they say. I still believe they didn't know until they picked up the car then they went into cover up mode. I don't know why he called about the gas cans, unless it was a ruse to get KC back home. IDK. I just know they are all a bunch of liars.


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Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 10:25:14 PM
One other thing I thought was interesting is how George said no guns in the house.  I don't have guns in my house either..but I am not under seige by protesters , the media, nor death threats, AND NO BOUNTY HUNTERS LIVING INSIDE OR OUTSIDE MY HOUSE.  So he tells LP and crew no guns in the house..they comply.

Yet he goes out and purchases a gun himself and hides it in the boot of his car????  And that was while they were still there.  So why didn't he let them have the guns they normally carry in his house?   Was he afraid while Tracey and the household slept, Casey would take Tracy's gun and kill them or make a break for it? 

 I think George and Cindy had actually grown afraid of Casey and contradicting her to a certain extent.  I think she used Caylee for leverage and once Caylee was dead..and they knew that by then..they wondered if they were safe with her.
Gypsy, I too was confused about the "no gun" policy George and Jim had. The reason they said was since Caylee was born, no guns in the house, but I thought that since KC was home there that was part of her home confinement. I may be wrong, but it just seemed strange to me that ex LE wouldn't have guns.

That is why I asked earlier what date George was found with the gun in his car. It was Sept 5th, so I think this was after LP and Tracy left town. I'm really confused about George and the gun. Maybe he was scared of KC or was going to use it to get a confession out of her. IDK.

Anyone know what date LP and Tracy left? I swear it was before the 5th of September. TIA JSM 

Hurricane Fay hit that area about Aug 24/25. She got out on bond the first time after the storm had past, but they were still getting rain and wind, and many places were flooded.  She was out about 9 days. That's the best I can do. Anyone else?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 10:33:59 PM
One other thing I thought was interesting is how George said no guns in the house.  I don't have guns in my house either..but I am not under seige by protesters , the media, nor death threats, AND NO BOUNTY HUNTERS LIVING INSIDE OR OUTSIDE MY HOUSE.  So he tells LP and crew no guns in the house..they comply.

Yet he goes out and purchases a gun himself and hides it in the boot of his car????  And that was while they were still there.  So why didn't he let them have the guns they normally carry in his house?   Was he afraid while Tracey and the household slept, Casey would take Tracy's gun and kill them or make a break for it? 

 I think George and Cindy had actually grown afraid of Casey and contradicting her to a certain extent.  I think she used Caylee for leverage and once Caylee was dead..and they knew that by then..they wondered if they were safe with her.
Gypsy, I too was confused about the "no gun" policy George and Jim had. The reason they said was since Caylee was born, no guns in the house, but I thought that since KC was home there that was part of her home confinement. I may be wrong, but it just seemed strange to me that ex LE wouldn't have guns.

That is why I asked earlier what date George was found with the gun in his car. It was Sept 5th, so I think this was after LP and Tracy left town. I'm really confused about George and the gun. Maybe he was scared of KC or was going to use it to get a confession out of her. IDK.

Anyone know what date LP and Tracy left? I swear it was before the 5th of September. TIA JSM 

Hurricane Fay hit that area about Aug 24/25. She got out on bond the first time after the storm had past, but they were still getting rain and wind, and many places were flooded.  She was out about 9 days. That's the best I can do. Anyone else?
Thanks Fanny, I am really confused as to whether LP was there or not. Let me check something. BBL.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 05, 2009, 10:35:54 PM
I would find someone coming into my yard..leaving a gate open and the pool ladder in the pool..when it normaly is kept away from the pool..much creepier then someone breaking into my shed and stealing a gasoline can.  Stealing a can of gasoline..well that seems normal..breaking into my yard gate and helping themselves to a swim in my pool is just creepy.
Yes, and not only that, if you leave your gate unlocked and a child wonders into your yard and drowns in your pool, I'm sure there would be lawsuits. And just the thought of something like that happening would have most people horribly upset that something like that happened in their yard. But instead the Anthonys called about a gas can  ::MonkeyConfused::
They called about the gas cans, because that actually happened. No one came into their yard and messed with the pool until they made the story up on Greta's show. I may be wrong though.

You are right about the first we heard about the pool story being on Greta.  However, in one of the doc dumps there was a conversation with FBI and George and Cindy, both in seperate rooms.  Both reiterate that same story but say they can't remember the date.  This interview with FBI is before Greta.  Greta and team come to town..Mark Fuhrman tlks with them privately..and they tell him the story of the pool incident.  He asks what day was that ..without hesitation according to Mark;s statement to LE,  they both say it is the 6/17.  Then LE asks Mark in an interview about the pool incident and what they told him..he tells them the above.

Right after that ..along with many of other inconsistencies, LE writes in their report that all the A's are being less then truthful with LE and FBI.  Yet LE plays along and in press conferences is still saying the A's are being cooperative....so the A's wouldn't know they knew the whole family was covering for Casey by that point of the Greta interview.

That is part of the reason the 6/17 date has always been such a big deal to me..if this happened why didn't they call LE, why lie about dates and times or not knowing them?  They were already misleading and covering up by this time...why...unless they knew she was guilty of killing Caylee?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 10:40:42 PM


That could very well be Gizzy..to me about now..no one involved in this case seems the least bit normal.  So she maybe feeling guilt..but hoping for a return letter from jail or thank you note for her book deal or movie..one more piece of paper to flash.

Do they need any kind of permission from KC to write about this? Probably not, right? But if she were to have KC on her side for a book, wouldn't the information received be all the more credible?

I have thought about what book would I read if one came out about this when it is all over. I would not contemplate even reading one until the trial was over. I thought the one I would probably read would be one written by Lenny or someone in his group. Now, I am not so sure. It seems no one's motives are pure. Maybe Yuri or John Allen, if that ever happened. But even that is hard to say. I am hoping the trial answers all the questions that may linger in my mind. I think I am on information overload as it is sometimes. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 10:42:56 PM
One other thing I thought was interesting is how George said no guns in the house.  I don't have guns in my house either..but I am not under seige by protesters , the media, nor death threats, AND NO BOUNTY HUNTERS LIVING INSIDE OR OUTSIDE MY HOUSE.  So he tells LP and crew no guns in the house..they comply.

Yet he goes out and purchases a gun himself and hides it in the boot of his car????  And that was while they were still there.  So why didn't he let them have the guns they normally carry in his house?   Was he afraid while Tracey and the household slept, Casey would take Tracy's gun and kill them or make a break for it? 

 I think George and Cindy had actually grown afraid of Casey and contradicting her to a certain extent.  I think she used Caylee for leverage and once Caylee was dead..and they knew that by then..they wondered if they were safe with her.
Gypsy, I too was confused about the "no gun" policy George and Jim had. The reason they said was since Caylee was born, no guns in the house, but I thought that since KC was home there that was part of her home confinement. I may be wrong, but it just seemed strange to me that ex LE wouldn't have guns.

That is why I asked earlier what date George was found with the gun in his car. It was Sept 5th, so I think this was after LP and Tracy left town. I'm really confused about George and the gun. Maybe he was scared of KC or was going to use it to get a confession out of her. IDK.

Anyone know what date LP and Tracy left? I swear it was before the 5th of September. TIA JSM 

Hurricane Fay hit that area about Aug 24/25. She got out on bond the first time after the storm had past, but they were still getting rain and wind, and many places were flooded.  She was out about 9 days. That's the best I can do. Anyone else?
Thanks Fanny, I am really confused as to whether LP was there or not. Let me check something. BBL.
So if she was out 9 days, so counting from say the 25th or the 24th, Tracy was gone by the time George had the gun in the trunk and KC was back in jail by then? TIA JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 10:46:33 PM
I would find someone coming into my yard..leaving a gate open and the pool ladder in the pool..when it normaly is kept away from the pool..much creepier then someone breaking into my shed and stealing a gasoline can.  Stealing a can of gasoline..well that seems normal..breaking into my yard gate and helping themselves to a swim in my pool is just creepy.
Yes, and not only that, if you leave your gate unlocked and a child wonders into your yard and drowns in your pool, I'm sure there would be lawsuits. And just the thought of something like that happening would have most people horribly upset that something like that happened in their yard. But instead the Anthonys called about a gas can  ::MonkeyConfused::
They called about the gas cans, because that actually happened. No one came into their yard and messed with the pool until they made the story up on Greta's show. I may be wrong though.

You are right about the first we heard about the pool story being on Greta.  However, in one of the doc dumps there was a conversation with FBI and George and Cindy, both in seperate rooms.  Both reiterate that same story but say they can't remember the date.  This interview with FBI is before Greta.  Greta and team come to town..Mark Fuhrman tlks with them privately..and they tell him the story of the pool incident.  He asks what day was that ..without hesitation according to Mark;s statement to LE,  they both say it is the 6/17.  Then LE asks Mark in an interview about the pool incident and what they told him..he tells them the above.

Right after that ..along with many of other inconsistencies, LE writes in their report that all the A's are being less then truthful with LE and FBI.  Yet LE plays along and in press conferences is still saying the A's are being cooperative....so the A's wouldn't know they knew the whole family was covering for Casey by that point of the Greta interview.

That is part of the reason the 6/17 date has always been such a big deal to me..if this happened why didn't they call LE, why lie about dates and times or not knowing them?  They were already misleading and covering up by this time...why...unless they knew she was guilty of killing Caylee?
Thanks Gypsy, I wasn't sure if it was Greta when this first came out. But you are right, if this did happen, why didn't they call the police like they did for the gas cans. I am beginning to believe that they knew Caylee was no longer alive as of the 17th. Thanks for the info. They make my head spin with all their lies, it has me so confused. I can't keep their stories straight in my mind, no wonder Cindy carries around a notebook to keep her lies straight.  ::MonkeyConfused::


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Post by: Gizzie on September 05, 2009, 10:48:42 PM


I have thought about what book would I read if one came out about this when it is all over. I would not contemplate even reading one until the trial was over. I thought the one I would probably read would be one written by Lenny or someone in his group. Now, I am not so sure. It seems no one's motives are pure. Maybe Yuri or John Allen, if that ever happened. But even that is hard to say. I am hoping the trial answers all the questions that may linger in my mind. I think I am on information overload as it is sometimes. JMO

Me too! Then no need to read anything written by any one of them!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 10:52:10 PM
I would find someone coming into my yard..leaving a gate open and the pool ladder in the pool..when it normaly is kept away from the pool..much creepier then someone breaking into my shed and stealing a gasoline can.  Stealing a can of gasoline..well that seems normal..breaking into my yard gate and helping themselves to a swim in my pool is just creepy.
Yes, and not only that, if you leave your gate unlocked and a child wonders into your yard and drowns in your pool, I'm sure there would be lawsuits. And just the thought of something like that happening would have most people horribly upset that something like that happened in their yard. But instead the Anthonys called about a gas can  ::MonkeyConfused::
They called about the gas cans, because that actually happened. No one came into their yard and messed with the pool until they made the story up on Greta's show. I may be wrong though.

You are right about the first we heard about the pool story being on Greta.  However, in one of the doc dumps there was a conversation with FBI and George and Cindy, both in seperate rooms.  Both reiterate that same story but say they can't remember the date.  This interview with FBI is before Greta.  Greta and team come to town..Mark Fuhrman tlks with them privately..and they tell him the story of the pool incident.  He asks what day was that ..without hesitation according to Mark;s statement to LE,  they both say it is the 6/17.  Then LE asks Mark in an interview about the pool incident and what they told him..he tells them the above.

Right after that ..along with many of other inconsistencies, LE writes in their report that all the A's are being less then truthful with LE and FBI.  Yet LE plays along and in press conferences is still saying the A's are being cooperative....so the A's wouldn't know they knew the whole family was covering for Casey by that point of the Greta interview.

That is part of the reason the 6/17 date has always been such a big deal to me..if this happened why didn't they call LE, why lie about dates and times or not knowing them?  They were already misleading and covering up by this time...why...unless they knew she was guilty of killing Caylee?

My thinking is that somewhere along the way Skanky told Spindy that she would never see Caylee again, probably on the night of the 15th. George and Spindy were probably very careful of Caylee in the swimming pool and knew she was vulerable there. When they found the gate opened(unlocked?) and the ladder in the pool and knew Skany had been there, they were terrified.

 There may have been other evidence, possibly a piece of Caylee's clothing in the pool, or something to indicate she had been there. Maybe, even a note we don't know about. They KNEW that day, something really bad was the matter and had some suspicions, but hoping against hope it wasn't what they were thinking. Casey was bluffing. They strung her along.

 By July 3, Spindy was getting overwrought and anxious. They had a feeling, they still hoped against hope she was bluffing. All the phone calls and texting was Caylee taunting her mother. By the night of the 15th, after the 911 call, they knew the truth and the coverup started. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 10:53:15 PM


That could very well be Gizzy..to me about now..no one involved in this case seems the least bit normal.  So she maybe feeling guilt..but hoping for a return letter from jail or thank you note for her book deal or movie..one more piece of paper to flash.

Do they need any kind of permission from KC to write about this? Probably not, right? But if she were to have KC on her side for a book, wouldn't the information received be all the more credible?

I have thought about what book would I read if one came out about this when it is all over. I would not contemplate even reading one until the trial was over. I thought the one I would probably read would be one written by Lenny or someone in his group. Now, I am not so sure. It seems no one's motives are pure. Maybe Yuri or John Allen, if that ever happened. But even that is hard to say. I am hoping the trial answers all the questions that may linger in my mind. I think I am on information overload as it is sometimes. JMO
I think there will be so many books out after the trial, that most people will be so sick of KC and the Ants, no one will want to read them. I doubt I would read a book about this unless it was written by that SA lady or the guy that rolls his eyes while Baez is talking. JMO JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 05, 2009, 10:54:09 PM
So if she was out 9 days, so counting from say the 25th or the 24th, Tracy was gone by the time George had the gun in the trunk and KC was back in jail by then? TIA JSM

Wasn't KC out on bond when George had the gun? She couldn't be around one, I think.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 05, 2009, 10:57:15 PM
One other thing I thought was interesting is how George said no guns in the house.  I don't have guns in my house either..but I am not under seige by protesters , the media, nor death threats, AND NO BOUNTY HUNTERS LIVING INSIDE OR OUTSIDE MY HOUSE.  So he tells LP and crew no guns in the house..they comply.

Yet he goes out and purchases a gun himself and hides it in the boot of his car????  And that was while they were still there.  So why didn't he let them have the guns they normally carry in his house?   Was he afraid while Tracey and the household slept, Casey would take Tracy's gun and kill them or make a break for it? 

 I think George and Cindy had actually grown afraid of Casey and contradicting her to a certain extent.  I think she used Caylee for leverage and once Caylee was dead..and they knew that by then..they wondered if they were safe with her.
Gypsy, I too was confused about the "no gun" policy George and Jim had. The reason they said was since Caylee was born, no guns in the house, but I thought that since KC was home there that was part of her home confinement. I may be wrong, but it just seemed strange to me that ex LE wouldn't have guns.

That is why I asked earlier what date George was found with the gun in his car. It was Sept 5th, so I think this was after LP and Tracy left town. I'm really confused about George and the gun. Maybe he was scared of KC or was going to use it to get a confession out of her. IDK.

Anyone know what date LP and Tracy left? I swear it was before the 5th of September. TIA JSM 

Hurricane Fay hit that area about Aug 24/25. She got out on bond the first time after the storm had past, but they were still getting rain and wind, and many places were flooded.  She was out about 9 days. That's the best I can do. Anyone else?
Thanks Fanny, I am really confused as to whether LP was there or not. Let me check something. BBL.

I think you are right JSM..that George bought the gun after the LP crew left their home.  But still why?  A gun in the car trunk isn't much good against intruders that have already entered the house, the protesters were outside the house...so why a gun in the car in the garage unless to protect yourself from someone in the home?  Just wierd, Caylee is not there, protesters are outside in the roadway and walk...but your murdering daughter who has already told people you have had a stroke, your getting divorced and the house is hers..yeah..I'd be sending her back to jail and if Cindy and Lee wouldn't let me do that...I'd get a gun.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 10:57:44 PM
Thanks Gypsy, I wasn't sure if it was Greta when this first came out. But you are right, if this did happen, why didn't they call the police like they did for the gas cans. I am beginning to believe that they knew Caylee was no longer alive as of the 17th. Thanks for the info. They make my head spin with all their lies, it has me so confused. I can't keep their stories straight in my mind, no wonder Cindy carries around a notebook to keep her lies straight.  ::MonkeyConfused::

And George carried a huge stack of papers to his deposition.

DD,you either have a outstanding memory or keep excellent notes. It is all beginning to run together for me.  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 10:58:38 PM
I would find someone coming into my yard..leaving a gate open and the pool ladder in the pool..when it normaly is kept away from the pool..much creepier then someone breaking into my shed and stealing a gasoline can.  Stealing a can of gasoline..well that seems normal..breaking into my yard gate and helping themselves to a swim in my pool is just creepy.
Yes, and not only that, if you leave your gate unlocked and a child wonders into your yard and drowns in your pool, I'm sure there would be lawsuits. And just the thought of something like that happening would have most people horribly upset that something like that happened in their yard. But instead the Anthonys called about a gas can  ::MonkeyConfused::
They called about the gas cans, because that actually happened. No one came into their yard and messed with the pool until they made the story up on Greta's show. I may be wrong though.

You are right about the first we heard about the pool story being on Greta.  However, in one of the doc dumps there was a conversation with FBI and George and Cindy, both in seperate rooms.  Both reiterate that same story but say they can't remember the date.  This interview with FBI is before Greta.  Greta and team come to town..Mark Fuhrman tlks with them privately..and they tell him the story of the pool incident.  He asks what day was that ..without hesitation according to Mark;s statement to LE,  they both say it is the 6/17.  Then LE asks Mark in an interview about the pool incident and what they told him..he tells them the above.

Right after that ..along with many of other inconsistencies, LE writes in their report that all the A's are being less then truthful with LE and FBI.  Yet LE plays along and in press conferences is still saying the A's are being cooperative....so the A's wouldn't know they knew the whole family was covering for Casey by that point of the Greta interview.

That is part of the reason the 6/17 date has always been such a big deal to me..if this happened why didn't they call LE, why lie about dates and times or not knowing them?  They were already misleading and covering up by this time...why...unless they knew she was guilty of killing Caylee?

My thinking is that somewhere along the way Skanky told Spindy that she would never see Caylee again, probably on the night of the 15th. George and Spindy were probably very careful of Caylee in the swimming pool and knew she was vulerable there. When they found the gate opened(unlocked?) and the ladder in the pool and knew Skany had been there, they were terrified.

 There may have been other evidence, possibly a piece of Caylee's clothing in the pool, or something to indicate she had been there. Maybe, even a note we don't know about. They KNEW that day, something really bad was the matter and had some suspicions, but hoping against hope it wasn't what they were thinking. Casey was bluffing. They strung her along.

 By July 3, Spindy was getting overwrought and anxious. They had a feeling, they still hoped against hope she was bluffing. All the phone calls and texting was Caylee taunting her mother. By the night of the 15th, after the 911 call, they knew the truth and the coverup started. JMO
That makes since, especially since Cindy posted her myspace about my Caylee is missing. Then Cindy sent Lee out to look for KC. I guess the smell of the car made them go into the spin mode. JMO JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 10:59:44 PM
So if she was out 9 days, so counting from say the 25th or the 24th, Tracy was gone by the time George had the gun in the trunk and KC was back in jail by then? TIA JSM

Wasn't KC out on bond when George had the gun? She couldn't be around one, I think.
Possibly Gizzie, I don't remember when she went back to jail. I thought she was in jail when he had the gun in the trunk.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 11:06:56 PM


I think you are right JSM..that George bought the gun after the LP crew left their home.  But still why?  A gun in the car trunk isn't much good against intruders that have already entered the house, the protesters were outside the house...so why a gun in the car in the garage unless to protect yourself from someone in the home?  Just wierd, Caylee is not there, protesters are outside in the roadway and walk...but your murdering daughter who has already told people you have had a stroke, your getting divorced and the house is hers..yeah..I'd be sending her back to jail and if Cindy and Lee wouldn't let me do that...I'd get a gun.

One other thing about the gun is George was trying to work again, and was working a security job. Some security jobs require the guard to provide his own gun, some don't have armed guards. But George was an ex-LE. If he was working a job where he would be alone at night, he might have bought a gun for his job, just to feel secure, and keep it concealed. I don't know this to be true, just a thought.

But one thing I do know. If I had protestors outside my house, and a daughter that I thought was dangerous living in my house, I'd dam*ned sure have a gun under my pillow, bail bond be flipped. It's just common sense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 11:07:55 PM
One other thing I thought was interesting is how George said no guns in the house.  I don't have guns in my house either..but I am not under seige by protesters , the media, nor death threats, AND NO BOUNTY HUNTERS LIVING INSIDE OR OUTSIDE MY HOUSE.  So he tells LP and crew no guns in the house..they comply.

Yet he goes out and purchases a gun himself and hides it in the boot of his car????  And that was while they were still there.  So why didn't he let them have the guns they normally carry in his house?   Was he afraid while Tracey and the household slept, Casey would take Tracy's gun and kill them or make a break for it? 

 I think George and Cindy had actually grown afraid of Casey and contradicting her to a certain extent.  I think she used Caylee for leverage and once Caylee was dead..and they knew that by then..they wondered if they were safe with her.
Gypsy, I too was confused about the "no gun" policy George and Jim had. The reason they said was since Caylee was born, no guns in the house, but I thought that since KC was home there that was part of her home confinement. I may be wrong, but it just seemed strange to me that ex LE wouldn't have guns.

That is why I asked earlier what date George was found with the gun in his car. It was Sept 5th, so I think this was after LP and Tracy left town. I'm really confused about George and the gun. Maybe he was scared of KC or was going to use it to get a confession out of her. IDK.

Anyone know what date LP and Tracy left? I swear it was before the 5th of September. TIA JSM 

Hurricane Fay hit that area about Aug 24/25. She got out on bond the first time after the storm had past, but they were still getting rain and wind, and many places were flooded.  She was out about 9 days. That's the best I can do. Anyone else?
Thanks Fanny, I am really confused as to whether LP was there or not. Let me check something. BBL.

I think you are right JSM..that George bought the gun after the LP crew left their home.  But still why?  A gun in the car trunk isn't much good against intruders that have already entered the house, the protesters were outside the house...so why a gun in the car in the garage unless to protect yourself from someone in the home?  Just wierd, Caylee is not there, protesters are outside in the roadway and walk...but your murdering daughter who has already told people you have had a stroke, your getting divorced and the house is hers..yeah..I'd be sending her back to jail and if Cindy and Lee wouldn't let me do that...I'd get a gun.
Thanks Gypsy. I wasn't sure if LP was there or not, but I still don't know why Georgie had the gun in his trunk. My mind is drawing a blank. Was KC in jail then on the 5th? I know she was out on the 18th of September because that is when she called police on the protesters and Baez came the next day and almost slammed the door on her leg. I am so confused.  ::MonkeyWaa::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 11:10:00 PM
Thanks Gypsy, I wasn't sure if it was Greta when this first came out. But you are right, if this did happen, why didn't they call the police like they did for the gas cans. I am beginning to believe that they knew Caylee was no longer alive as of the 17th. Thanks for the info. They make my head spin with all their lies, it has me so confused. I can't keep their stories straight in my mind, no wonder Cindy carries around a notebook to keep her lies straight.  ::MonkeyConfused::

And George carried a huge stack of papers to his deposition.

DD,you either have a outstanding memory or keep excellent notes. It is all beginning to run together for me.  ::MonkeyDevil::
I forgot about his stack of papers going to court that day. There were more pages in his stack than they have in the healthcare bill.  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 05, 2009, 11:14:25 PM
Possibly Gizzie, I don't remember when she went back to jail. I thought she was in jail when he had the gun in the trunk.

IIRC, it was a term of her bond. That's why the hoopla when whoever it was found out about it. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure she was out at this time.  ::MonkeyConfused:: Please, someone correct me if I am mistaken.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 11:15:18 PM
So if she was out 9 days, so counting from say the 25th or the 24th, Tracy was gone by the time George had the gun in the trunk and KC was back in jail by then? TIA JSM

Wasn't KC out on bond when George had the gun? She couldn't be around one, I think.
Possibly Gizzie, I don't remember when she went back to jail. I thought she was in jail when he had the gun in the trunk.

Casey was home when they found the gun in the car, but I can't remember the RV being out front. She must have just gotten out again. Like I said, it is all running together for me.   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 11:15:53 PM


I think you are right JSM..that George bought the gun after the LP crew left their home.  But still why?  A gun in the car trunk isn't much good against intruders that have already entered the house, the protesters were outside the house...so why a gun in the car in the garage unless to protect yourself from someone in the home?  Just wierd, Caylee is not there, protesters are outside in the roadway and walk...but your murdering daughter who has already told people you have had a stroke, your getting divorced and the house is hers..yeah..I'd be sending her back to jail and if Cindy and Lee wouldn't let me do that...I'd get a gun.

One other thing about the gun is George was trying to work again, and was working a security job. Some security jobs require the guard to provide his own gun, some don't have armed guards. But George was an ex-LE. If he was working a job where he would be alone at night, he might have bought a gun for his job, just to feel secure, and keep it concealed. I don't know this to be true, just a thought.

But one thing I do know. If I had protestors outside my house, and a daughter that I thought was dangerous living in my house, I'd dam*ned sure have a gun under my pillow, bail bond be flipped. It's just common sense.
You know RD, said George had a job and was always away from the house. I thought he meant that George had a "real" job so if it was for a "real" job then that could be the reason for the gun. But when I heard RD say George had a job, my first thought was the KFN billboard job. But it seems like George was hanging around fat arse Milstead later on not when LP et al were there. Hope that makes sense, my magic cough medicine is taking effect.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 11:17:36 PM
Possibly Gizzie, I don't remember when she went back to jail. I thought she was in jail when he had the gun in the trunk.

IIRC, it was a term of her bond. That's why the hoopla when whoever it was found out about it. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure she was out at this time.  ::MonkeyConfused:: Please, someone correct me if I am mistaken.
I thought she was out too, but it may have been when she was bailed out the second time. IDK, the days are running together.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 05, 2009, 11:23:36 PM
One thing that really struck in Tracy's interview was th einfo where Casey says, "They haven't even found the clothes she was wearing yet?"   The part of that where she says the clothes she was wearing sent off alarm bells for me.  Previously to either her parents or Lee in the jail house tapes she said , They haven't found her clothes yet".

Which brings me back to her friend, I forget his name, who she visited  with his mother , and when Casey was gone they discovered this bag with Caylee's swimwear in it.  I think she drowned her in the pool, after cloroforming her..no muss, no mess.  The clothes that she left at her friend's house were left there because she felt they might have decomp on them.  She was also getting rid of evidence and setting up one more person.   I also think the calls from her in the area of the house on 6/16 were to show she was there after  the Blanchard , err Sawgrass fiasco..trying to reach family and friends to get help....another throw off.  When no one seems to answer she leaves for Tony's and a night of snuggling watching movies ..err a safe place.

Alot of her lies and the timeline also feed into mistruths about why she was where she was and why she called others.  The more I hear from all partys ..the more I believe this was premeditated due to Caylee's growing vocabulary and ability to tell Cindy just what the hell was going on.  I have no doubt there was a huge fight on 6/15 over what Caylee was able to tell her CC about the goings on recently.  I also think prior to this she used Caylee as a decoy while she shoplifted..and then she realizes Caylee can say what happened. So she has more of a need to steal from friends and others rather then just shoplift.  Just my two cents.

Gypsy DD-excellent point!  IIRC, Caylee was supposedly with Zanny at Disney and the beach. Perhaps, Casey dropped off her little clothing bundle with Caylee's swim suit because she couldn't let anyone at her house to find it.  Why would Caylee be on vacation with Zanny without her swimsuit?-type of questions from Cindy.  I wonder where exactly, at his house, Casey's friend found the clothes & Caylee's swimsuit.  Casey had to have known the clothes would be found and returned and she wasn't planning to be there when they were because she was at Tony's/Amy's.  Why would she do that?  Was it a stab at Cindy, intended to worry her in her little cat 'n mouse game?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 11:24:38 PM
 ::MonkeyEek::  Y'all were right, he got the gun when KC was getting released from jail.

Casey To Be Released From Jail Again
Friday, September 05, 2008 2:54:24 AM
 
ORLANDO -- It was announced Thursday an anonymous person put up the $50,000 cash to post Casey Anthony's original bond on felony child neglect charges.

Two bond agencies in Kissimmee will work together to post the entire $500,000 amount.

Casey also made bond on the new check fraud and theft charges that were filed against her Wednesday by the Orange County Sheriff's Office.

The MacDonald Bail Bonds agency posted the $2,700 bond late Wednesday.  Therefore, Anthony did not have to appear in court Thursday morning.
   
Her lawyer, Jose Baez, issued a statement Thursday saying: "The individual posting the bond prefers to remain anonymous, and is doing it because of the belief that Ms. Anthony's constitutional rights have been grossly violated."

The release also said neither Baez nor Casey Anthony will be working again with bounty hunter Leonard Padilla, who originally posted Casey's bond.

Casey is expected to leave jail sometime Friday morning, and will be on home confinement.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 05, 2009, 11:27:44 PM
Possibly Gizzie, I don't remember when she went back to jail. I thought she was in jail when he had the gun in the trunk.

IIRC, it was a term of her bond. That's why the hoopla when whoever it was found out about it. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure she was out at this time.  ::MonkeyConfused:: Please, someone correct me if I am mistaken.

Gizzie your right!  There was a big hoopla about her being out on bond and George having the gun..atleast on the internet.   They came and got it while she was out on bond and the news stations where still holding their webcams outside the home.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 11:27:48 PM
Casey got out of jail for the second time on Friday, September 5, 2008.

She came home that day.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 05, 2009, 11:30:08 PM
One thing that really struck in Tracy's interview was th einfo where Casey says, "They haven't even found the clothes she was wearing yet?"   The part of that where she says the clothes she was wearing sent off alarm bells for me.  Previously to either her parents or Lee in the jail house tapes she said , They haven't found her clothes yet".

Which brings me back to her friend, I forget his name, who she visited  with his mother , and when Casey was gone they discovered this bag with Caylee's swimwear in it.  I think she drowned her in the pool, after cloroforming her..no muss, no mess.  The clothes that she left at her friend's house were left there because she felt they might have decomp on them.  She was also getting rid of evidence and setting up one more person.   I also think the calls from her in the area of the house on 6/16 were to show she was there after  the Blanchard , err Sawgrass fiasco..trying to reach family and friends to get help....another throw off.  When no one seems to answer she leaves for Tony's and a night of snuggling watching movies ..err a safe place.

Alot of her lies and the timeline also feed into mistruths about why she was where she was and why she called others.  The more I hear from all partys ..the more I believe this was premeditated due to Caylee's growing vocabulary and ability to tell Cindy just what the hell was going on.  I have no doubt there was a huge fight on 6/15 over what Caylee was able to tell her CC about the goings on recently.  I also think prior to this she used Caylee as a decoy while she shoplifted..and then she realizes Caylee can say what happened. So she has more of a need to steal from friends and others rather then just shoplift.  Just my two cents.

The only thing that throws me off about Caylee being drowned is the duct tape. It would have had to be done almost immediately afterwards. I can't reconcile that. The rest of your post, I can agree with.

Hey FANNIE MAE! You got me thinking with your comment It would have had to be done almost immediately afterwards..  Maybe not.  She could have chloroformed her, duct taped her, and just slid her into the pool.  That duct tape is water resistent and uses a very high-tech adhesive.  Of course, I could be wrong though.  IMO, if the duct tape wasn't the murder weapon, it was a message to Cindy.  **Sensitive Monkey alert**  Basically, in no uncertain terms, Caylee was "gift-wrapped" IMO...pure hatred and spite.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BluesyGram on September 05, 2009, 11:31:00 PM
I wanted to add that Tony has been all over Websleuths ever since he was involved..has done his talk show round..come on...I think they protest too much.  I don't know them..but I do know they are used to getting paid for what they do...and not one of them seems publicity shy.  You can throw nanners now.
I agree, and has anyone heard this?  And now we find out the female bounty hunter is merely LP's typist? That's the talk on WS, Blink will know I'm sure if this is true or not.



Trying to catch up reading...while watching LSU & Bama so if this has been said, please just ignore.  

The FBI were the ones doing the questioning in CA of Rob, LP & Tracey...so there is no need for them to give the 'oath'.  You cannot lie to the FBI as it is a Federal Offense.   Tracey made sure to have her lawyer with her...so she was certainly aware of this law.  LP and Rob most certainly know this also.  

Tracy said that she did some computer work for them occasionally (IIRC)..so if someone wants to call her a typist..I guess she was in some fashion.  

BTW...I think she did intimate that she indeed was trying to listen and get info to try and locate Caylee.  Remember when she told the story about KC talking about the shovel...and she said that she was pretending not to be paying attention..and saw YO YO make faces at KC to shut up?    


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 05, 2009, 11:35:38 PM
::MonkeyEek::  Y'all were right, he got the gun when KC was getting released from jail.

Casey To Be Released From Jail Again
Friday, September 05, 2008 2:54:24 AM
 
ORLANDO -- It was announced Thursday an anonymous person put up the $50,000 cash to post Casey Anthony's original bond on felony child neglect charges.

Two bond agencies in Kissimmee will work together to post the entire $500,000 amount.

Casey also made bond on the new check fraud and theft charges that were filed against her Wednesday by the Orange County Sheriff's Office.

The MacDonald Bail Bonds agency posted the $2,700 bond late Wednesday.  Therefore, Anthony did not have to appear in court Thursday morning.
   
Her lawyer, Jose Baez, issued a statement Thursday saying: "The individual posting the bond prefers to remain anonymous, and is doing it because of the belief that Ms. Anthony's constitutional rights have been grossly violated."

The release also said neither Baez nor Casey Anthony will be working again with bounty hunter Leonard Padilla, who originally posted Casey's bond.

Casey is expected to leave jail sometime Friday morning, and will be on home confinement.



Ironically, it also says "neither Baez or CA will be working again with the bounty hunter". Just another oops from Baez, lol. Guess he forgot his statement back then.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 11:37:31 PM
One thing that really struck in Tracy's interview was th einfo where Casey says, "They haven't even found the clothes she was wearing yet?"   The part of that where she says the clothes she was wearing sent off alarm bells for me.  Previously to either her parents or Lee in the jail house tapes she said , They haven't found her clothes yet".

Which brings me back to her friend, I forget his name, who she visited  with his mother , and when Casey was gone they discovered this bag with Caylee's swimwear in it.  I think she drowned her in the pool, after cloroforming her..no muss, no mess.  The clothes that she left at her friend's house were left there because she felt they might have decomp on them.  She was also getting rid of evidence and setting up one more person.   I also think the calls from her in the area of the house on 6/16 were to show she was there after  the Blanchard , err Sawgrass fiasco..trying to reach family and friends to get help....another throw off.  When no one seems to answer she leaves for Tony's and a night of snuggling watching movies ..err a safe place.

Alot of her lies and the timeline also feed into mistruths about why she was where she was and why she called others.  The more I hear from all partys ..the more I believe this was premeditated due to Caylee's growing vocabulary and ability to tell Cindy just what the hell was going on.  I have no doubt there was a huge fight on 6/15 over what Caylee was able to tell her CC about the goings on recently.  I also think prior to this she used Caylee as a decoy while she shoplifted..and then she realizes Caylee can say what happened. So she has more of a need to steal from friends and others rather then just shoplift.  Just my two cents.

The only thing that throws me off about Caylee being drowned is the duct tape. It would have had to be done almost immediately afterwards. I can't reconcile that. The rest of your post, I can agree with.

Hey FANNIE MAE! You got me thinking with your comment It would have had to be done almost immediately afterwards..  Maybe not.  She could have chloroformed her, duct taped her, and just slid her into the pool.  That duct tape is water resistent and uses a very high-tech adhesive.  Of course, I could be wrong though.  IMO, if the duct tape wasn't the murder weapon, it was a message to Cindy.  **Sensitive Monkey alert**  Basically, in no uncertain terms, Caylee was "gift-wrapped" IMO...pure hatred and spite.

Hi ISPY.Good to be posting at the same time with you.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I'm thinking that the autopsy report said that the duct tape had been put on Caylee's head before decomp started. I just can't get past the thinking that the duct tape WAS the murder weapon and would have been very difficult to put on her if her hair had been wet and fluids coming out of her nose and mouth. Sorry monkeys. But I agree it was hatred and spite. No doubt about it. And Rage.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 05, 2009, 11:38:12 PM


Gizzie your right!  There was a big hoopla about her being out on bond and George having the gun..atleast on the internet.   They came and got it while she was out on bond and the news stations where still holding their webcams outside the home.

I remembered people were wondering is she could have been revoked at that point. We were hoping.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 05, 2009, 11:38:27 PM


And why would she email and say she missed them? 

Here's a crazy thought...What if Tracy is sending money etc, because she has some guilt in what she has said to LE, about the behavior of KC and the rest of the A's, knowing that she had gotten "close" to KC, and since KC is so sure of a "mistrial", that she is all too forgiving and seeing dollar signs from the books, movies, whatever after she's released...

 ::MonkeyCheer2:: I don't know, everything about this is crazy!  ::MonkeyCheer2::

IF she emailed them, I'm thinking maybe it was to keep up the pretense of being in their corner to continue gathering evidence while this thing moved forward.  As far her supposedly sending KC money, maybe she's thinking if she can keep the line open, she can talk KC into spilling/pleading?  Maybe she just hates to see someone her son's age wreck their life.  Maybe she's trying to keep an inroad because she knows Casey 's always lived in Caseyworld with CA & GA to "protect" her and enable her lies.  In other words, Tracy knows that Casey has no concept of being told "NO" and Casey cannot really fathom how much trouble she's actually in because Baez and the rest of the team keep assuring her she's going to get off.  Who knows?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 11:43:12 PM
::MonkeyEek::  Y'all were right, he got the gun when KC was getting released from jail.

Casey To Be Released From Jail Again
Friday, September 05, 2008 2:54:24 AM
 
ORLANDO -- It was announced Thursday an anonymous person put up the $50,000 cash to post Casey Anthony's original bond on felony child neglect charges.

Two bond agencies in Kissimmee will work together to post the entire $500,000 amount.

Casey also made bond on the new check fraud and theft charges that were filed against her Wednesday by the Orange County Sheriff's Office.

The MacDonald Bail Bonds agency posted the $2,700 bond late Wednesday.  Therefore, Anthony did not have to appear in court Thursday morning.
   
Her lawyer, Jose Baez, issued a statement Thursday saying: "The individual posting the bond prefers to remain anonymous, and is doing it because of the belief that Ms. Anthony's constitutional rights have been grossly violated."

The release also said neither Baez nor Casey Anthony will be working again with bounty hunter Leonard Padilla, who originally posted Casey's bond.

Casey is expected to leave jail sometime Friday morning, and will be on home confinement.



Ironically, it also says "neither Baez or CA will be working again with the bounty hunter". Just another oops from Baez, lol. Guess he forgot his statement back then.  ::MonkeyHaHa::
Ironic, yep just another oops.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 11:43:47 PM
I wanted to add that Tony has been all over Websleuths ever since he was involved..has done his talk show round..come on...I think they protest too much.  I don't know them..but I do know they are used to getting paid for what they do...and not one of them seems publicity shy.  You can throw nanners now.
I agree, and has anyone heard this?  And now we find out the female bounty hunter is merely LP's typist? That's the talk on WS, Blink will know I'm sure if this is true or not.



Trying to catch up reading...while watching LSU & Bama so if this has been said, please just ignore.  

The FBI were the ones doing the questioning in CA of Rob, LP & Tracey...so there is no need for them to give the 'oath'.  You cannot lie to the FBI as it is a Federal Offense.   Tracey made sure to have her lawyer with her...so she was certainly aware of this law.  LP and Rob most certainly know this also.  

Tracy said that she did some computer work for them occasionally (IIRC)..so if someone wants to call her a typist..I guess she was in some fashion.  

BTW...I think she did intimate that she indeed was trying to listen and get info to try and locate Caylee.  Remember when she told the story about KC talking about the shovel...and she said that she was pretending not to be paying attention..and saw YO YO make faces at KC to shut up?    

O/T Va Tech and Bama! Roll Tide!! Me too!  ::MonkeyFootball:: ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 05, 2009, 11:44:55 PM
One other thing I thought was interesting is how George said no guns in the house.  I don't have guns in my house either..but I am not under seige by protesters , the media, nor death threats, AND NO BOUNTY HUNTERS LIVING INSIDE OR OUTSIDE MY HOUSE.  So he tells LP and crew no guns in the house..they comply.

Yet he goes out and purchases a gun himself and hides it in the boot of his car????  And that was while they were still there.  So why didn't he let them have the guns they normally carry in his house?   Was he afraid while Tracey and the household slept, Casey would take Tracy's gun and kill them or make a break for it? 

 I think George and Cindy had actually grown afraid of Casey and contradicting her to a certain extent.  I think she used Caylee for leverage and once Caylee was dead..and they knew that by then..they wondered if they were safe with her.

Gypsy DD-makes perfect sense to me.  I think George wanted to be able to protect himself against Casey if the situation arose (per his outburst "I'm not going to live a lie anymore!" and supposedly confronting Casey about where Caylee was).  JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 11:47:41 PM


And why would she email and say she missed them? 

Here's a crazy thought...What if Tracy is sending money etc, because she has some guilt in what she has said to LE, about the behavior of KC and the rest of the A's, knowing that she had gotten "close" to KC, and since KC is so sure of a "mistrial", that she is all too forgiving and seeing dollar signs from the books, movies, whatever after she's released...

 ::MonkeyCheer2:: I don't know, everything about this is crazy!  ::MonkeyCheer2::

IF she emailed them, I'm thinking maybe it was to keep up the pretense of being in their corner to continue gathering evidence while this thing moved forward.  As far her supposedly sending KC money, maybe she's thinking if she can keep the line open, she can talk KC into spilling/pleading?  Maybe she just hates to see someone her son's age wreck their life.  Maybe she's trying to keep an inroad because she knows Casey 's always lived in Caseyworld with CA & GA to "protect" her and enable her lies.  In other words, Tracy knows that Casey has no concept of being told "NO" and Casey cannot really fathom how much trouble she's actually in because Baez and the rest of the team keep assuring her she's going to get off.  Who knows?

I remember when we were first getting the list of who was sending money to Skanky's commissary account, there were a couple of names from California. I don't think I even knew what Tracey's last name was at the time. She could have done it with an anonymous name, also.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 05, 2009, 11:50:51 PM


IF she emailed them, I'm thinking maybe it was to keep up the pretense of being in their corner to continue gathering evidence while this thing moved forward.  As far her supposedly sending KC money, maybe she's thinking if she can keep the line open, she can talk KC into spilling/pleading?  Maybe she just hates to see someone her son's age wreck their life.  Maybe she's trying to keep an inroad because she knows Casey 's always lived in Caseyworld with CA & GA to "protect" her and enable her lies.  In other words, Tracy knows that Casey has no concept of being told "NO" and Casey cannot really fathom how much trouble she's actually in because Baez and the rest of the team keep assuring her she's going to get off.  Who knows?

I think you're exactly right on with this. I don't think a single person has sat down with KC, and told her exactly what she's up against. And I guess I can see how Tracy might feel like she's on KC's side. KC needs to have someone telling her these things, and acting as a friend at the same time. I don't know that I would want that task.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 05, 2009, 11:54:14 PM
 ::MonkeyBike:: Nite Monkeys, I will go back to lurkdome tomorrow. I was just so confused about the gun timeline today. Sorry to drag it out. TIA JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 05, 2009, 11:58:35 PM
::MonkeyBike:: Nite Monkeys, I will go back to lurkdome tomorrow. I was just so confused about the gun timeline today. Sorry to drag it out. TIA JSM

Good night JSM. We all wanted to know.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 06, 2009, 12:01:15 AM
::MonkeyEek::  Y'all were right, he got the gun when KC was getting released from jail.

Casey To Be Released From Jail Again
Friday, September 05, 2008 2:54:24 AM
 
ORLANDO -- It was announced Thursday an anonymous person put up the $50,000 cash to post Casey Anthony's original bond on felony child neglect charges.

Two bond agencies in Kissimmee will work together to post the entire $500,000 amount.

Casey also made bond on the new check fraud and theft charges that were filed against her Wednesday by the Orange County Sheriff's Office.

The MacDonald Bail Bonds agency posted the $2,700 bond late Wednesday.  Therefore, Anthony did not have to appear in court Thursday morning.
   
Her lawyer, Jose Baez, issued a statement Thursday saying: "The individual posting the bond prefers to remain anonymous, and is doing it because of the belief that Ms. Anthony's constitutional rights have been grossly violated."

The release also said neither Baez nor Casey Anthony will be working again with bounty hunter Leonard Padilla, who originally posted Casey's bond.

Casey is expected to leave jail sometime Friday morning, and will be on home confinement.



JSM..Thank you for that article..that clarifies everything.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 12:05:00 AM
BLUESYGRAM,I guess we can go to bed happy tonight.  ::MonkeyCheer4::

It has really been a pleasure to be here tonight.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 06, 2009, 12:05:22 AM
::MonkeyBike:: Nite Monkeys, I will go back to lurkdome tomorrow. I was just so confused about the gun timeline today. Sorry to drag it out. TIA JSM

Goodnight JSM, sleep well!  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 06, 2009, 12:08:54 AM
I would find someone coming into my yard..leaving a gate open and the pool ladder in the pool..when it normaly is kept away from the pool..much creepier then someone breaking into my shed and stealing a gasoline can.  Stealing a can of gasoline..well that seems normal..breaking into my yard gate and helping themselves to a swim in my pool is just creepy.
Yes, and not only that, if you leave your gate unlocked and a child wonders into your yard and drowns in your pool, I'm sure there would be lawsuits. And just the thought of something like that happening would have most people horribly upset that something like that happened in their yard. But instead the Anthonys called about a gas can  ::MonkeyConfused::
They called about the gas cans, because that actually happened. No one came into their yard and messed with the pool until they made the story up on Greta's show. I may be wrong though.

You are right about the first we heard about the pool story being on Greta.  However, in one of the doc dumps there was a conversation with FBI and George and Cindy, both in seperate rooms.  Both reiterate that same story but say they can't remember the date.  This interview with FBI is before Greta.  Greta and team come to town..Mark Fuhrman tlks with them privately..and they tell him the story of the pool incident.  He asks what day was that ..without hesitation according to Mark;s statement to LE,  they both say it is the 6/17.  Then LE asks Mark in an interview about the pool incident and what they told him..he tells them the above.

Right after that ..along with many of other inconsistencies, LE writes in their report that all the A's are being less then truthful with LE and FBI.  Yet LE plays along and in press conferences is still saying the A's are being cooperative....so the A's wouldn't know they knew the whole family was covering for Casey by that point of the Greta interview.

That is part of the reason the 6/17 date has always been such a big deal to me..if this happened why didn't they call LE, why lie about dates and times or not knowing them?  They were already misleading and covering up by this time...why...unless they knew she was guilty of killing Caylee?

My thinking is that somewhere along the way Skanky told Spindy that she would never see Caylee again, probably on the night of the 15th. George and Spindy were probably very careful of Caylee in the swimming pool and knew she was vulerable there. When they found the gate opened(unlocked?) and the ladder in the pool and knew Skany had been there, they were terrified.

 There may have been other evidence, possibly a piece of Caylee's clothing in the pool, or something to indicate she had been there. Maybe, even a note we don't know about. They KNEW that day, something really bad was the matter and had some suspicions, but hoping against hope it wasn't what they were thinking. Casey was bluffing. They strung her along.

 By July 3, Spindy was getting overwrought and anxious. They had a feeling, they still hoped against hope she was bluffing. All the phone calls and texting was Caylee taunting her mother. By the night of the 15th, after the 911 call, they knew the truth and the coverup started. JMO
That makes since, especially since Cindy posted her myspace about my Caylee is missing. Then Cindy sent Lee out to look for KC. I guess the smell of the car made them go into the spin mode. JMO JSM

O.k., JSM's post made a very strange cross my mind.  Why would Casey leave a paper with Amy's contact info in the car when she abandoned it?  WHAT IF that was all part of the game Casey was playing, being a psycopath/sociopath (IMO)?  What if she planned for the decomp-smelling car to be towed all along?  What if she'd been stringing Cindy along for a month as a payback, making Cindy a nervous wreck?  What if she purposefully left the pants, knife, car seat, purse, and AMY's contact info-knowing Cindy would contact a clueless Amy.  What if she purposefully left Caylee's swimsuit at her male friend's house, knowing it would be returned to a clueless Cindy, to further frustrate and worry her.  A message that "Hey, I'm around, but you can't find me." ) as in hide 'n seek) and to let Cindy know that she'd been to the house (the house with the sideyard gate open and the pool ladder out of place-I think that really did happen).  So, Cindy's left with a missing granddaughter, her swimsuit, a trespassing daughter (
from fight indications + Cindy's admission that Casey had taken Caylee from the home to "Bond"), and someone using the pool who didn't return the ladder (strict family rule).  No wonder, Cindy was frantic to find Caylee late June to early July.  IMO, Casey was playing a vindictive game of cat 'n mouse.  It's interesting to me that Casey had spent time researching Zenaida Gonzaleses early on and had her story all ready when Cindy came calling.  What she didn't expect was for LE to doubt her and Roy Kronk to find Caylee.


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Post by: Gypsy DD on September 06, 2009, 12:10:41 AM
I do however think that Lyons is now setting the tone with the legal team.  She really has her work cut out for her with Casey.

Notice how Tracy said that KC always wore makeup and was very concerned with her appearance..yet this last time in court no makeup, no knoodling with Baez, acted tearful with George on the stand..yet still needed to be physically turned around by Lyons to look at her parents..yet she still did not look at them.

I think Lyons is taking KC along on mini steps of how she should appear and act..and having a daughter of her own..taking on the kindly mother role.  Before Lyons is done KC will appear and act like a different person, but will still have moments of her true character shining through.  As well as moments where we will see some of her anger in her facial features.

Monkeys I have loved this discussion but I ahve to say goodnight my friends..sweet dreams.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 12:17:58 AM
I do however think that Lyons is now setting the tone with the legal team.  She really has her work cut out for her with Casey.

Notice how Tracy said that KC always wore makeup and was very concerned with her appearance..yet this last time in court no makeup, no knoodling with Baez, acted tearful with George on the stand..yet still needed to be physically turned around by Lyons to look at her parents..yet she still did not look at them.

I think Lyons is taking KC along on mini steps of how she should appear and act..and having a daughter of her own..taking on the kindly mother role.  Before Lyons is done KC will appear and act like a different person, but will still have moments of her true character shining through.  As well as moments where we will see some of her anger in her facial features.

Monkeys I have loved this discussion but I ahve to say goodnight my friends..sweet dreams.


DD, You are a very wise and insightful person, and really make me think. Casey is looking more and more like her defense team, and last time in court seemed to be taking her cues from Lyon. I don't think it will save her in the end. The true Casey has already been exposed in the evidence. I hope the jury is able to see the evidence we have, and I pray for justice for Caylee every night. It will not bring Caylee back, and I think it will feel like a hollow victory, but it will be necessary for so many people and for Caylee's little innocent soul.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 06, 2009, 12:22:06 AM
I do however think that Lyons is now setting the tone with the legal team.  She really has her work cut out for her with Casey.

Notice how Tracy said that KC always wore makeup and was very concerned with her appearance..yet this last time in court no makeup, no knoodling with Baez, acted tearful with George on the stand..yet still needed to be physically turned around by Lyons to look at her parents..yet she still did not look at them.

I think Lyons is taking KC along on mini steps of how she should appear and act..and having a daughter of her own..taking on the kindly mother role.  Before Lyons is done KC will appear and act like a different person, but will still have moments of her true character shining through.  As well as moments where we will see some of her anger in her facial features.

Monkeys I have loved this discussion but I ahve to say goodnight my friends..sweet dreams.

Gypsy DD- Good thinking!  I am thinking this is the real reason Lyons can't possibly be ready for trial until Jan. 2010.  She will need that long to coach KC, so that by the time this trial rolls around, she hope to present KC as an emotionally distraught, wrongly accused mother of a murdered child.  I think that's the strategy.  By that time, I expect to see Casey acting as a loving and attentive daughter to CA & GA in court and there may even be emotional and heart-wrenching jail video visits to reinforce that charade.  I would NOT be surprised in the least.
Enjoyed having this parlay with you!  Hope you have a good evening!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 06, 2009, 12:26:15 AM
::MonkeyBike:: Nite Monkeys, I will go back to lurkdome tomorrow. I was just so confused about the gun timeline today. Sorry to drag it out. TIA JSM

Good night JSM. We all wanted to know.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Fanny, I am confused. I was reading back and I see that both you and JSM were both posting about the gun and KC being out at the time. You had said that she was home in a few of them, but then were asking if she was or not? Was it me that caused you to second guess?  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 06, 2009, 12:28:08 AM
I do however think that Lyons is now setting the tone with the legal team.  She really has her work cut out for her with Casey.

Notice how Tracy said that KC always wore makeup and was very concerned with her appearance..yet this last time in court no makeup, no knoodling with Baez, acted tearful with George on the stand..yet still needed to be physically turned around by Lyons to look at her parents..yet she still did not look at them.

I think Lyons is taking KC along on mini steps of how she should appear and act..and having a daughter of her own..taking on the kindly mother role.  Before Lyons is done KC will appear and act like a different person, but will still have moments of her true character shining through.  As well as moments where we will see some of her anger in her facial features.

Monkeys I have loved this discussion but I ahve to say goodnight my friends..sweet dreams.


You're already gone DD, but goodnight to you!  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 12:29:39 AM
ISPY,I think you have hit the nail on the head about the games that were being played. Skanky had Spindy by the proverbial B*lls and was twisting for all she was worth. We have seen the little subtle games they have been playing with clothing, jewelry, colors and probably many other things that normal people would ever notice. "Little Cameos" jumped out on the first phone call from jail. There have probably been things that have gone on for years that only they understand.

Spindy probably had the upper hand for years, and years. But Skanky knew her buttons and when to push them. I don't think we have heard a word of truth out of any of their mouths since we first started hearing about Caylee being missing and her mother hadn't reported it in over 30 days. The lies have flowed for so long, it is pretty obvious that the truth has never come from any of them and it never will. Even Grandma Plesea knew the truth and Rick too.

Everytime I try to get in their head and try to see their reasoning, it is impossible. They live in a world, and a lifestyle that most of us could never understand. I am sure there will be psychology books written about the family dynamic, and may even come up with a new name for it in the future. At this time it alludes me.

I just know there is evil in the world, and it lives/lived and breathes/breathed on Hopespring Drive in Orlando. That is the only real fact I know for sure about this whole case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 06, 2009, 12:30:21 AM
JSM-Thanks for bringing up the gun issue.  I enjoyed the refresher course.  If I were SA, I'd ask my little witness under oath during trial why he bought that gun just hours before her release, in direct violation of the stated terms of her probation.  I'd also ask why it was hidden in the wheel well and not in the house where it would be more readily accessible to him if protestors broke into the home? I'd be sure to point up that protestors wouldn't be storming the garage...more likely the front door, front windows.
Good night and keep asking those good questions!  You go, girl! ::MonkeySkate::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 12:33:35 AM
::MonkeyBike:: Nite Monkeys, I will go back to lurkdome tomorrow. I was just so confused about the gun timeline today. Sorry to drag it out. TIA JSM

Good night JSM. We all wanted to know.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Fanny, I am confused. I was reading back and I see that both you and JSM were both posting about the gun and KC being out at the time. You had said that she was home in a few of them, but then were asking if she was or not? Was it me that caused you to second guess?  ::MonkeyConfused::

No, it wasn't you. I just really couldn't remember the sequence of when Skany was released for the second time. I knew she was home when the gun was in the car boot, but I couldn't remember the exact time she was released again. I knew there was a doubt at the time about whether it would revolk her bond, and we hope it would. The confusion was on my part, not yours.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 06, 2009, 12:34:25 AM
Gizzie, Fanny Mae, Sdavidson11, Desdemona, BluesyGram and 18 Guests - Please pardon my lack of manners, everyone!  I didn't mean to exclude any of you.  I just realized I've been running pages behind and posting as I came across something that got me thinking.  I'm sorry!  I tend forget I'm playing catch-up while you guys are here posting.  Uuuhhh!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 12:42:37 AM
JSM-Thanks for bringing up the gun issue.  I enjoyed the refresher course.  If I were SA, I'd ask my little witness under oath during trial why he bought that gun just hours before her release, in direct violation of the stated terms of her probation.  I'd also ask why it was hidden in the wheel well and not in the house where it would be more readily accessible to him if protestors broke into the home? I'd be sure to point up that protestors wouldn't be storming the garage...more likely the front door, front windows.
Good night and keep asking those good questions!  You go, girl! ::MonkeySkate::

Yes, sometimes it is good to go back over details that happened months ago, and look at it with different eyes. New truths or at least perspectives come out.

I think George buying the gun at the time was just another indication that they never thought the rules applied to them, and that no one would say or do anything. We have seen them all push the envelope over and over. That is the one time that it came back and bit George in the proverbial azz and the only time I can remember. Most all the other things they have done, they have gotten away with. And you can bet your boots George has a gun now, one way or the other. IMO he will not use it on himself. 


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Post by: ISpy on September 06, 2009, 12:43:36 AM
Fanny Mae- You're so right about all of the tit-for-tat Cindy & Casey probably engaged in for years and the constant wrestling/striving for control.  WOW!  I've never seen anything like this and both sides of my parents' families are pretty dysfunctional IMO.  We consider it a good family reunion (there have been few) when there are no sudden angry eruptions of two parties squaring off; people yelling, crying, and leaving early.  ::MonkeyHaHa::  When one actually comes off without drama, we count it a major success (like putting a man on the moon or successful brain surgery).
The Anthonys should be somebody's psychology thesis or case study.  Actually, they probably already are...as of August/September 2008.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BluesyGram on September 06, 2009, 12:44:34 AM
BLUESYGRAM,I guess we can go to bed happy tonight.  ::MonkeyCheer4::

It has really been a pleasure to be here tonight.  ::MonkeyAngel::


It really has been a pleasure...like ole' times. (Plus a great football night)  I haven't listened to LP's tape yet.  Will try to get to them before I go to sleep tonight, however LSU started playing at 9:30PM in my time zone!!

Those song lyrics are still spinning in my head and when I put those together with Lee telling Rob that she did this to Caylee..FOR A FRESH START I just don't get it!  Wonder if Sin-Sin has listened more closely to the rest of the lyrics beyond the 'roller coaster'.  





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 06, 2009, 12:49:10 AM

No, it wasn't you. I just really couldn't remember the sequence of when Skany was released for the second time. I knew she was home when the gun was in the car boot, but I couldn't remember the exact time she was released again. I knew there was a doubt at the time about whether it would revolk her bond, and we hope it would. The confusion was on my part, not yours.

Oh, ok! I just noticed that it seemed to start right after my post, and I didn't want to be the one, lol.  Thank you!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 12:50:48 AM
A couple of timeline clarifications and a possible picture of Tracy.


Wikipedia, Tropical Storm Faye:

It again made landfall near Naples, Florida, in the early hours of August 19 and progressed northeast through the Florida peninsula, emerging into the Atlantic Ocean near Melbourne on August 20.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_Storm_Fay_(2008)
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Casey first arrested 7/16/08
Released 8/21/08

Rearrested 8/29/08  (only Tracy and Cindy in house w/Casey)
Released 9/05/08  (George's gun confiscated this date)

Rearrested 9/15/08
Released 9/16/08 (I think?)

Final arrest: 10/14/08

------------------

I think this might be Tracy (looks like the same woman as in the smaller pic from WS, posted earlier IMO).  This was November 11, at JBP when Cindy and George arrived and raised a big stink.  This is a screenshot from the raw video posted at WFTV.  This moment is when Cindy is being pulled away by the woman, because she was starting to get involved in the altercation between the Channel 6 cameraman and Dennis Milstead.  I couldn't recall whether she stated in her interview that she accompanied Leonard and Rob when they returned to Orlando in November, but if so, this could be her, IMO.

This event happened very close to the time of Dominic Casey and Jim Hoover's searches on Suburban, and the time Mark Nejame resigned and Michelle Bart came on the scene, with the "mall sighting" press conference, etc.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 12:51:32 AM
Pic:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 06, 2009, 12:54:03 AM
Fanny Mae- You're so right about all of the tit-for-tat Cindy & Casey probably engaged in for years and the constant wrestling/striving for control.  WOW!  I've never seen anything like this and both sides of my parents' families are pretty dysfunctional IMO.  We consider it a good family reunion (there have been few) when there are no sudden angry eruptions of two parties squaring off; people yelling, crying, and leaving early.  ::MonkeyHaHa::  When one actually comes off without drama, we count it a major success (like putting a man on the moon or successful brain surgery).
The Anthonys should be somebody's psychology thesis or case study.  Actually, they probably already are...as of August/September 2008.

You are so right!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 12:54:25 AM
BLUESYGRAM,I guess we can go to bed happy tonight.  ::MonkeyCheer4::

It has really been a pleasure to be here tonight.  ::MonkeyAngel::


It really has been a pleasure...like ole' times. (Plus a great football night)  I haven't listened to LP's tape yet.  Will try to get to them before I go to sleep tonight, however LSU started playing at 9:30PM in my time zone!!

Those song lyrics are still spinning in my head and when I put those together with Lee telling Rob that she did this to Caylee..FOR A FRESH START I just don't get it!  Wonder if Sin-Sin has listened more closely to the rest of the lyrics beyond the 'roller coaster'.  





I questioned that about Spindy myself saying it was the song about her life. Beyond the roller coaster, it didn't make much sense, unless there is something more sinister in her background we don't know, God forbid. But it sure was creepy about Skanky thinking it was her life and her song.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: The only thing I thought was if Skanky liked something, Spindy liked it better, and just some more competition. I cannot even imagine Spindy listening to that song, unless she was trying to be one of the "girls" like sleeping on an air mattress on the floor in Skanky's room when Annie slept over. Yikes! I cannot begin to imagine my mother sleeping on the floor in my room while I had a friend there.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

I'm sorry, I didn't realize LSU was playing too. I was fixated on Bama. I'm a misplaced southerner that hardly gets to see the SEC games. But the Ohio Buckeyes beat Navy, and we have been getting replays on every station all evening........ ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 12:54:53 AM
The ladder in the pool story sounds unlikely.

Even more so:  Using a shovel to "remove" a ladder from a pool.

Picture of pool ladder:


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Post by: ISpy on September 06, 2009, 12:55:13 AM
One of the things I find indisputable when this comes to trial is Dominic Casey searching those woods 300+ feet away on his first attempt and 60+/- feet on his second try.  Someone with knowledge directed him to those particular woods and to check black trash bags.  I'm guessing Casey's closest confidant and secret-keeper Lee is the someone and that's why he needed immunity in his deposition.  So he will not be prosecuted for withholding information in a pending investigation/missing persons case.  He's not going to take the fall for Casey, no matter how loyal she thinks he is.  He's not that stupid.  Only a handful of people knew where Caylee was IMO:  Casey, Lee, Cindy, George, and/or maybe Baez.  Since Dominic Casey worked for Cindy and the Anthonys, there you go.  IMO, at least one of them, as well as possibly Baez had knowledge.  Baez might be covered under Attorney-Client privilege.  Anyone else was obstructing an investigation, falsifying information, aiding and abetting. I'm not buying the whole psychic tale and I seriously doubt anyone else will either, Judge or jury-wise.  If I were Orange County, I'd be filing a search warrant for all of Baez' computers personal and professional.   


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Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 12:58:09 AM
Pic:

Do you know if she was with Lenny and Rob, or if she came with George and Spindy?


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Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 01:01:23 AM
<respectfully snipped by Desi>
I cannot even imagine Spindy listening to that song, unless she was trying to be one of the "girls" like sleeping on an air mattress on the floor in Skanky's room when Annie slept over. Yikes! I cannot begin to imagine my mother sleeping on the floor in my room while I had a friend there.
Hi Fanny, I believe Baez had instructed the Anthonys not to allow Casey to be alone inside the house with any non-family member, except apparently for Tracey on occasion.  Maybe Cindy had to shadow Casey and Annie, or rather "babysit."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 01:02:23 AM
The ladder in the pool story sounds unlikely.

Even more so:  Using a shovel to "remove" a ladder from a pool.

Picture of pool ladder:

The ladder has something to do with it, or they would have never brought it up. Were these the LE pictures or the ones for the Greta show?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 06, 2009, 01:02:54 AM
The ladder in the pool story sounds unlikely.

Even more so:  Using a shovel to "remove" a ladder from a pool.

Picture of pool ladder:

Hi Desi! Do you know if the A's ladder was like this? If yes, then I don't see KC using it to lower Caylee's body into the pool with it. There goes my theory. I was picturing something that just hung over the pool. I'm not a pool person, so really don't have an idea what they look like.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 06, 2009, 01:03:18 AM
The ladder in the pool story sounds unlikely.

Even more so:  Using a shovel to "remove" a ladder from a pool.

Picture of pool ladder:

Desi- Thank you for the visual clarification!  Great point!  There's no way Casey could have used the shovel to get the ladder out of the pool.  The ladder would be awkward, at best, lying in the pool.  I don't think Casey could have managed to get it out by herself, even if she was in the pool because she'd have to lift it so far above to clear the side of the pool.  JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 01:04:52 AM
Do you know if she was with Lenny and Rob, or if she came with George and Spindy?
No, I don't, but they were there, too.  She did seem to have "Cindy duty" that day, shadowing her closely and stepping in to herd her, or to comfort her.  Didn't notice Cindy hanging all over her like she did Rob, though....

link to raw video footage:  http://www.wftv.com/video/17949691/index.html (http://www.wftv.com/video/17949691/index.html)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 06, 2009, 01:06:14 AM
The ladder in the pool story sounds unlikely.

Even more so:  Using a shovel to "remove" a ladder from a pool.

Picture of pool ladder:

Hi Desi! Do you know if the A's ladder was like this? If yes, then I don't see KC using it to lower Caylee's body into the pool with it. There goes my theory. I was picturing something that just hung over the pool. I'm not a pool person, so really don't have an idea what they look like.

 ::MonkeyConfused:: Never mind, I see now that that is the A's pool!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 01:09:34 AM
The ladder in the pool story sounds unlikely.
Even more so:  Using a shovel to "remove" a ladder from a pool.
Picture of pool ladder:
Hi Desi! Do you know if the A's ladder was like this? If yes, then I don't see KC using it to lower Caylee's body into the pool with it. There goes my theory. I was picturing something that just hung over the pool. I'm not a pool person, so really don't have an idea what they look like.
This is indeed a picture of the Anthonys' pool and ladder. 

I am not positive whether this photo was taken by LE or by the Greta crew.  The pic does appear in the Greta program that aired August 6.

Link to Greta show:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEbEbmG9DRs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEbEbmG9DRs)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 01:12:30 AM
<respectfully snipped by Desi>
I cannot even imagine Spindy listening to that song, unless she was trying to be one of the "girls" like sleeping on an air mattress on the floor in Skanky's room when Annie slept over. Yikes! I cannot begin to imagine my mother sleeping on the floor in my room while I had a friend there.
Hi Fanny, I believe Baez had instructed the Anthonys not to allow Casey to be alone inside the house with any non-family member, except apparently for Tracey on occasion.  Maybe Cindy had to shadow Casey and Annie, or rather "babysit."

You are probably right. The song is not one Spindy would listen to in her car, I don't think, and would never think it was "her"song. You can barely hear the words without 20 yr old ears, and would really  be meaningless to a fifty year old.

Baez may have told them that, and he may have caught them not doing it before, such as the times Tracy recalled. I think by that point George and Spindy were not paying much attention to Bozo. The gild was coming off the lily. And I don't expect anyone tells them what they can and can't do or talk about in their own home. Spanky can't even be quiet in court. Besides, there are devices that are outside the home that can detect anything said in the house, and they do no require a warrant. Using the info in court would be illegal, but it sure could send and investigation down a few paths.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 06, 2009, 01:15:49 AM
This is indeed a picture of the Anthonys' pool and ladder. 

I am not positive whether this photo was taken by LE or by the Greta crew.  The pic does appear in the Greta program that aired August 6.

Link to Greta show:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEbEbmG9DRs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEbEbmG9DRs)

Thank you!  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 06, 2009, 01:18:32 AM
The other thing I find so inconsistent about the pool is that Cindy & George did the maintenance go.  Odd for people with an immaculately kept house, who washed decomp smelling pants, have a meticulously ordered garage to park in, are on record discussing digging up bamboo shoots in the backyard/moving landscaping/laying pavers, are featured in numerous family pictures engaged in backyard activities with their granddaughter (swimming, playing, supervising), spend lots of well-documented time cutting the grass/trimming the lawn/liming the yard, and are always immaculately dressed (although sometimes inappropriately for court appearances and depositions) and well-groomed.  Ignoring the pool care was no accident IMO.  I'm thinking something occurred in that pool and letting it go was the best way to hide any chemical evidence.  The other thought that comes to mind is if your granddaughter was murdered in the pool, adding chemicals wouldn't make it all ready to use, but who could stomach dumping it and disinfecting it either?  Seriously, if it's just a matter of adding chemicals, how long could it possibly take to clean a pool that size?  I'm sure they've done it hundreds (maybe a thousand) times before June 15th...why not after?   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 01:21:47 AM
Do you know if she was with Lenny and Rob, or if she came with George and Spindy?
No, I don't, but they were there, too.  She did seem to have "Cindy duty" that day, shadowing her closely and stepping in to herd her, or to comfort her.  Didn't notice Cindy hanging all over her like she did Rob, though....

link to raw video footage:  http://www.wftv.com/video/17949691/index.html (http://www.wftv.com/video/17949691/index.html)

Oh no, Spindy Luuuuvvvs Rob.  ::MonkeyDevil2:: For a minute there, I though she was headed past his waist with her rubbing and grabbing.

The reason I asked when they were taken, was that Spindy was talking about the yard being different, and that big Rubbermaid box was supposed to be over by the sunporch, but they had moved it to dig  up a bush or tree, to be replanted somewhere else. All of that work was supposed to be done on the 4th of July holiday, and yet the big box was right up against the pool. It was a perfect place for Caylee to climb on and jump in, and it didn't look like Calyee wasn't coming home.. I think she even mentioned that it wasn't left there because of it. Greta's interview was after Caylee was arrested later that month. I often wondered how much decomp and been moved out of the base of the pool, and in othe places, and gotten rid of.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 06, 2009, 01:25:47 AM
While it's always good to toss theories around with you all, I need to catch some z's.  Big thanks to all of the many monkeys who've been kind enough to post info and links on the doc dumps, interviews, and pics too.  It means a lot to monkeys like me, who are short on reading time right now.  Thank you!  Hopefully will be back soon to catch up.  Take good care and good night everyone!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 01:26:15 AM
Desi- Thank you for the visual clarification!  Great point!  There's no way Casey could have used the shovel to get the ladder out of the pool.  The ladder would be awkward, at best, lying in the pool.  I don't think Casey could have managed to get it out by herself, even if she was in the pool because she'd have to lift it so far above to clear the side of the pool.  JMO
Well, we could be wrong, but I agree with you that it doesn't look physically feasible... and also, it just seems so ODD in the first place, to imagine why a big pool ladder like that would even be IN the pool in the first place... on June 18, if the neighbor's date is right.

Cindy and George say the pool ladder was removed from the side of the pool on the night of June 15, but that they found it hooked back onto the side of the pool on the 17th (and the gate left open).  So really it does not seem to make sense that the ladder would have somehow been IN the pool the next day (18th), does it? 

I am leaning toward agreeing with JSM, that the open gate, ladder-on-pool story might be a ruse for some reason...

I have also always thought there was some particular reason George reported the theft of the gas cans.  Surely they knew it was Casey, right; she had stolen gas from them before, and they had supposedly only recently began locking the shed?  Maybe he reported the "theft" to deflect attention from the fact that he knew it was Casey who broke in?  I don't know.  When the theft report hit the media, Cindy said she didn't know anything about it.  It's so puzzling.

One more thing:  Did you read in one of Tony L's interviews, where he told LE that he had once broken into his own parents' shed with a tire iron, just like he later did for Casey that day in June -- to get gas once when he was on empty himself and short on funds?  And that he told his parents about it immediately afterwards?  (Just like Casey supposedly did.)  I found that intriguing.

It has been asked before: WHY didn't George notify the police that he had ID'd the thief?  That is very irresponsible to file a report and not let them know the case was solved.  Fishy, the whole gas can thing, IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 01:32:16 AM
One of the things I find indisputable when this comes to trial is Dominic Casey searching those woods 300+ feet away on his first attempt and 60+/- feet on his second try.  Someone with knowledge directed him to those particular woods and to check black trash bags.  I'm guessing Casey's closest confidant and secret-keeper Lee is the someone and that's why he needed immunity in his deposition.  So he will not be prosecuted for withholding information in a pending investigation/missing persons case.  He's not going to take the fall for Casey, no matter how loyal she thinks he is.  He's not that stupid.  Only a handful of people knew where Caylee was IMO:  Casey, Lee, Cindy, George, and/or maybe Baez.  Since Dominic Casey worked for Cindy and the Anthonys, there you go.  IMO, at least one of them, as well as possibly Baez had knowledge.  Baez might be covered under Attorney-Client privilege.  Anyone else was obstructing an investigation, falsifying information, aiding and abetting. I'm not buying the whole psychic tale and I seriously doubt anyone else will either, Judge or jury-wise.  If I were Orange County, I'd be filing a search warrant for all of Baez' computers personal and professional.   
Pavers.

They seem to have been looking for pavers as a landmark.  That had to come from somewhere; most likely from Casey.

IMO, it could have been any number of people who passed along the information to Dominic.  Lee, certainly.  Or Casey herself, who did meet with Dominic in jail.  Or Baez.  Or someone else.  Er, perhaps it was NOT an out-of-state psychic on the phone... sorry Dominic.

Apparently Casey did not realize that there were other groups of pavers that would mislead and confuse these bumblers.

JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 01:34:23 AM
Pic:

I mentioned earlier today that I had always thought Tracy was the heavier set woman who went outside with Spindy when she was standing outside the door talking of the phone after Skanky was taken back to jail that night the protestors were there. She came from the inside of the house, and I also saw her pull Spindy away from the people in the truck when the little boy got hurt with the door of the truck. She seemed to be inside the house, and for the longest I thought she might be Tracy. Do you know who the other person was?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 01:39:29 AM
One of the things I find indisputable when this comes to trial is Dominic Casey searching those woods 300+ feet away on his first attempt and 60+/- feet on his second try.  Someone with knowledge directed him to those particular woods and to check black trash bags.  I'm guessing Casey's closest confidant and secret-keeper Lee is the someone and that's why he needed immunity in his deposition.  So he will not be prosecuted for withholding information in a pending investigation/missing persons case.  He's not going to take the fall for Casey, no matter how loyal she thinks he is.  He's not that stupid.  Only a handful of people knew where Caylee was IMO:  Casey, Lee, Cindy, George, and/or maybe Baez.  Since Dominic Casey worked for Cindy and the Anthonys, there you go.  IMO, at least one of them, as well as possibly Baez had knowledge.  Baez might be covered under Attorney-Client privilege.  Anyone else was obstructing an investigation, falsifying information, aiding and abetting. I'm not buying the whole psychic tale and I seriously doubt anyone else will either, Judge or jury-wise.  If I were Orange County, I'd be filing a search warrant for all of Baez' computers personal and professional.   
Pavers.

They seem to have been looking for pavers as a landmark.  That had to come from somewhere; most likely from Casey.

IMO, it could have been any number of people who passed along the information to Dominic.  Lee, certainly.  Or Casey herself, who did meet with Dominic in jail.  Or Baez.  Or someone else.  Er, perhaps it was NOT an out-of-state psychic on the phone... sorry Dominic.

Apparently Casey did not realize that there were other groups of pavers that would mislead and confuse these bumblers.

JMO

The pavers were definitley something D Casey was looking for, and a psychic wasn't on the phone, and didn't give him directions. Someone who had gotten directions for someone was giving him instructions. It was a pretty big place, and would be easy not to find the exact sport unless they were there, or going by what was told him I still feel pretty sure it was Lee. If not him, it was Spindy. But why were they trying to find her then? To remove her permanently??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 01:45:30 AM
While it's always good to toss theories around with you all, I need to catch some z's.  Big thanks to all of the many monkeys who've been kind enough to post info and links on the doc dumps, interviews, and pics too.  It means a lot to monkeys like me, who are short on reading time right now.  Thank you!  Hopefully will be back soon to catch up.  Take good care and good night everyone!
::MonkeyAngel::

Sorry I missed saying goodnight ISPY. I am going right behind you. I can't type a clear coherant sentence now, and can barely spell.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 01:48:15 AM
I am fading fast at this point, so I will say Good Night. It was a pleasure posting with you all tonight.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 01:49:04 AM
I mentioned earlier today that I had always thought Tracy was the heavier set woman who went outside with Spindy when she was standing outside the door talking of the phone after Skanky was taken back to jail that night the protestors were there. She came from the inside of the house, and I also saw her pull Spindy away from the people in the truck when the little boy got hurt with the door of the truck. She seemed to be inside the house, and for the longest I thought she might be Tracy. Do you know who the other person was?
I don't recall who the "heavier set woman" might have been.  Maybe not Tracy, since Tracy mentions in her interview that she(Tracy) was mistaken for Casey in one media moment outside Baez's office, when she had on a blue poncho and a towel over her head... IMO Tracy would have to be fairly thin to be mistaken for Casey back then, before all the pop tarts and sausage sticks...

However, Tracy does state that only she and Cindy were in the house with Casey (watching Nancy Grace) when LE arrived at the door to arrest Casey on the night of August 29.

Sorry, I just don't know.  I do recall there were a couple of female OCSO officers there, and one or both of them may have appeared "ample" of figure.  Maybe if you posted a still shot or a video, someone could ID who was there. 

(And I did see where you mentioned that earlier.  I always read every single post in the Caylee thread.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 01:54:55 AM
Goodnight, Monkeys!  Sweet dreams.

God Bless Our Caylee.             
::MonkeyAngel::           
:smt049 :smt049 :smt049 :smt049 :smt049           


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 06, 2009, 02:04:20 AM
Goodnight, Monkeys!  Sweet dreams.

God Bless Our Caylee.             
::MonkeyAngel::           
:smt049 :smt049 :smt049 :smt049 :smt049           


Good night Desi, pleasant dreams!  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 06, 2009, 02:05:07 AM
Goodnight all!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BluesyGram on September 06, 2009, 02:17:32 AM
One of the things I find indisputable when this comes to trial is Dominic Casey searching those woods 300+ feet away on his first attempt and 60+/- feet on his second try.  Someone with knowledge directed him to those particular woods and to check black trash bags.  I'm guessing Casey's closest confidant and secret-keeper Lee is the someone and that's why he needed immunity in his deposition.  So he will not be prosecuted for withholding information in a pending investigation/missing persons case.  He's not going to take the fall for Casey, no matter how loyal she thinks he is.  He's not that stupid.  Only a handful of people knew where Caylee was IMO:  Casey, Lee, Cindy, George, and/or maybe Baez.  Since Dominic Casey worked for Cindy and the Anthonys, there you go.  IMO, at least one of them, as well as possibly Baez had knowledge.  Baez might be covered under Attorney-Client privilege.  Anyone else was obstructing an investigation, falsifying information, aiding and abetting. I'm not buying the whole psychic tale and I seriously doubt anyone else will either, Judge or jury-wise.  If I were Orange County, I'd be filing a search warrant for all of Baez' computers personal and professional.   
Pavers.

They seem to have been looking for pavers as a landmark.  That had to come from somewhere; most likely from Casey.

IMO, it could have been any number of people who passed along the information to Dominic.  Lee, certainly.  Or Casey herself, who did meet with Dominic in jail.  Or Baez.  Or someone else.  Er, perhaps it was NOT an out-of-state psychic on the phone... sorry Dominic.

Apparently Casey did not realize that there were other groups of pavers that would mislead and confuse these bumblers.

JMO

If Dominic did see KC in jail (and I think we did see him on the visitor's list)...why haven't we seen the video of that?  Surely that wouldn't have qualified as atty/client priviledge?  So if she did tell DC during that visit...LE would have that info also.  That tells me that it had to either come via a letter from KC to Baez to Lee to Dominic.  (there's that daisy chain thing again).  I agree that the pavers were the 'markers'.  Sure is nice to see you posting again Desi.





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 06, 2009, 05:51:04 AM
I do however think that Lyons is now setting the tone with the legal team.  She really has her work cut out for her with Casey.

Notice how Tracy said that KC always wore makeup and was very concerned with her appearance..yet this last time in court no makeup, no knoodling with Baez, acted tearful with George on the stand..yet still needed to be physically turned around by Lyons to look at her parents..yet she still did not look at them.

I think Lyons is taking KC along on mini steps of how she should appear and act..and having a daughter of her own..taking on the kindly mother role.  Before Lyons is done KC will appear and act like a different person, but will still have moments of her true character shining through.  As well as moments where we will see some of her anger in her facial features.

Monkeys I have loved this discussion but I ahve to say goodnight my friends..sweet dreams.

Gypsy DD- Good thinking!  I am thinking this is the real reason Lyons can't possibly be ready for trial until Jan. 2010.  She will need that long to coach KC, so that by the time this trial rolls around, she hope to present KC as an emotionally distraught, wrongly accused mother of a murdered child.  I think that's the strategy.  By that time, I expect to see Casey acting as a loving and attentive daughter to CA & GA in court and there may even be emotional and heart-wrenching jail video visits to reinforce that charade.  I would NOT be surprised in the least.
Enjoyed having this parlay with you!  Hope you have a good evening!

Yes, she has to 'rehab' KC's image to appear more sympathetic !   
New version: -  Poor overwhelmed confused young mother, dominated by overbearing parents...
Can you imagine having her job?
Let me see now, what is on my to-do list this morning....   Callous young murderer needs a makeover so she can escape justice.....  Oh, I LOVE my job.......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 06, 2009, 07:20:26 AM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Sharon/Tx on September 06, 2009, 07:24:10 AM
The ladder in the pool story sounds unlikely.

Even more so:  Using a shovel to "remove" a ladder from a pool.

Picture of pool ladder:
  Look at the pool ladder and how it is the same height as the fence.  All she had to do was lean it back, pull it out of the pool and near the fence where she could lift and carry the body over or drop it and move it later.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cherjers on September 06, 2009, 07:34:06 AM
Fanny Mae- You're so right about all of the tit-for-tat Cindy & Casey probably engaged in for years and the constant wrestling/striving for control.  WOW!  I've never seen anything like this and both sides of my parents' families are pretty dysfunctional IMO.  We consider it a good family reunion (there have been few) when there are no sudden angry eruptions of two parties squaring off; people yelling, crying, and leaving early.  ::MonkeyHaHa::  When one actually comes off without drama, we count it a major success (like putting a man on the moon or successful brain surgery).
   ::MonkeyGavel::  WE must be related- ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 06, 2009, 09:53:54 AM
One of the things I find indisputable when this comes to trial is Dominic Casey searching those woods 300+ feet away on his first attempt and 60+/- feet on his second try.  Someone with knowledge directed him to those particular woods and to check black trash bags.  I'm guessing Casey's closest confidant and secret-keeper Lee is the someone and that's why he needed immunity in his deposition.  So he will not be prosecuted for withholding information in a pending investigation/missing persons case.  He's not going to take the fall for Casey, no matter how loyal she thinks he is.  He's not that stupid.  Only a handful of people knew where Caylee was IMO:  Casey, Lee, Cindy, George, and/or maybe Baez.  Since Dominic Casey worked for Cindy and the Anthonys, there you go.  IMO, at least one of them, as well as possibly Baez had knowledge.  Baez might be covered under Attorney-Client privilege.  Anyone else was obstructing an investigation, falsifying information, aiding and abetting. I'm not buying the whole psychic tale and I seriously doubt anyone else will either, Judge or jury-wise.  If I were Orange County, I'd be filing a search warrant for all of Baez' computers personal and professional.   
Pavers.

They seem to have been looking for pavers as a landmark.  That had to come from somewhere; most likely from Casey.

IMO, it could have been any number of people who passed along the information to Dominic.  Lee, certainly.  Or Casey herself, who did meet with Dominic in jail.  Or Baez.  Or someone else.  Er, perhaps it was NOT an out-of-state psychic on the phone... sorry Dominic.

Apparently Casey did not realize that there were other groups of pavers that would mislead and confuse these bumblers.

JMO

I dunno.  If you listen to one of the first interviews LE did, with one of the Anthonys' neighbor- the Bailey Dickens tape,  the husband states that Kiomarie told the police in the earliest days that most likely Casey would dump a body right in that spot and they ought to search there...   I would still like to know what was done to follow up that suggestion.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NCMike on September 06, 2009, 10:46:04 AM
The ladder in the pool story sounds unlikely.

Even more so:  Using a shovel to "remove" a ladder from a pool.

Picture of pool ladder:

Desi- Thank you for the visual clarification!  Great point!  There's no way Casey could have used the shovel to get the ladder out of the pool.  The ladder would be awkward, at best, lying in the pool.  I don't think Casey could have managed to get it out by herself, even if she was in the pool because she'd have to lift it so far above to clear the side of the pool.  JMO

I'm not sure why they started the pool story but here is what I know about above ground pool ladders.

There are generally two types; A frame ladders which have steps outside and inside the pool and deck to pool ladders, where the steps are in the pool and the ladder attaches to the deck.  From the pics it appears the A's have an A frame ladder.  These ladders are made from a heavy plastic or resin so they are tough but light.  With A frame ladders it is the weight of the water that gets into the ladder frame that keeps it weighted down inside the pool.  Some people will put sand inside the frame if they don't plan to move the ladder much.  Casey could conceivably move the ladder out of the pool, especially as the water runs out of the frame, the ladder becomes lighter.

The story about using the shovel to remove the ladder is ridiculous.  Don't see how or why anyone would try that.  Also, the moment that shovel is put against the vinyl liner it will put a hole in the liner and then the pool will have a leak. 

I'd be curious to know what type of filter was on the A's pool, typcially in Florida the above ground pools will have a sand filter, some will use a DE filter.  A DE filter would be easier for LE to find evidnce in because of the grids that filter particles from the water.  The sand filter would also catch these particles (depending on the size of the particles) but you have to remember for their size above ground pool that filter has 100 - 150 pounds of sand.  Also, a simple backwash of the filter after she was done and I would think Skank could have gotten rid of a lot of evidence in the water.

I do believe Caylee was in or near that pool, and I firmly believe she was laid on the ground in that shallow depression, a lot happened in that backyard!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 06, 2009, 10:48:24 AM
JSM-Thanks for bringing up the gun issue.  I enjoyed the refresher course.  If I were SA, I'd ask my little witness under oath during trial why he bought that gun just hours before her release, in direct violation of the stated terms of her probation.  I'd also ask why it was hidden in the wheel well and not in the house where it would be more readily accessible to him if protestors broke into the home? I'd be sure to point up that protestors wouldn't be storming the garage...more likely the front door, front windows.
Good night and keep asking those good questions!  You go, girl! ::MonkeySkate::
You are welcome Ispy, after listening to Rob and LP saying that George and Jim were adamant about not having firearms in the house. That got me to thinking about George and his gun in the trunk.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 06, 2009, 10:49:30 AM
NCMike good post, and I agree a lot of things happened in that backyard  ::MonkeyEek::                                           


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 06, 2009, 10:52:03 AM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Where is all the really good juicy stuff at? This case has way too many threads to really get to. I try but it's tough. If there is anything good please let me know.                                 ( Now why is this Tony? Who are you running to with the juicy stuff? I don't trust any of them, they all have an agenda and it all involves making money. This was from WS)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 06, 2009, 10:57:11 AM
NCMike:  Thanks for the above ground pool info;  Didn't Cindy say that she & Caylee went swimming during that evening when they returned from the Pleasea visit ?  I don't believe a word Cindy says but she felt it necessary to volunteer that story.  Also, I think she said Casey didn't swim, as it was too cold for Casey.  So,  yes, I agree ... something happened poolwise.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 06, 2009, 11:01:08 AM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Where is all the really good juicy stuff at? This case has way too many threads to really get to. I try but it's tough. If there is anything good please let me know.                                 ( Now why is this Tony? Who are you running to with the juicy stuff? I don't trust any of them, they all have an agenda and it all involves making money. This was from WS)

The reason I question whether this really is Tony is I have noticed in the last year +  that a lot of people from Orlando leaving that dangling participle 'at' at the end of their sentences.  Could this really be someone from Orlando pretending to be Tony ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 06, 2009, 11:03:43 AM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Where is all the really good juicy stuff at? This case has way too many threads to really get to. I try but it's tough. If there is anything good please let me know.                                 ( Now why is this Tony? Who are you running to with the juicy stuff? I don't trust any of them, they all have an agenda and it all involves making money. This was from WS)

The reason I question whether this really is Tony is I have noticed in the last year +  that a lot of people from Orlando leaving that dangling participle 'at' at the end of their sentences.  Could this really be someone from Orlando pretending to be Tony ?
I think it is him, he had said he was going on the Today Show couple weeks back and he did. He is on somekind of campaign to smear Leonard. Maybe Blink would know if it is really him or not  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 06, 2009, 11:05:49 AM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Where is all the really good juicy stuff at? This case has way too many threads to really get to. I try but it's tough. If there is anything good please let me know.                                 ( Now why is this Tony? Who are you running to with the juicy stuff? I don't trust any of them, they all have an agenda and it all involves making money. This was from WS)

The reason I question whether this really is Tony is I have noticed in the last year +  that a lot of people from Orlando leaving that dangling participle 'at' at the end of their sentences.  Could this really be someone from Orlando pretending to be Tony ?


The dangling participle 'at' at the end of their questions [ I meant to say ], is an Orlando colloquialism of sorts I've noticed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 06, 2009, 11:06:37 AM
Thanks NoRose ..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 06, 2009, 11:14:05 AM
Thanks NoRose ..
You know I think it is Tony, but for all I know it could be some crackpot. But some of the things he says, I do believe it is him  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 06, 2009, 11:26:15 AM
The ladder in the pool story sounds unlikely.

Even more so:  Using a shovel to "remove" a ladder from a pool.

Picture of pool ladder:
I think Caylee accidently drowning in the pool may have been yet another anthony "story".Maybe they thought or discussed this as a way to possibly get casey less time and forgot to tell casey that they were dropping that"story",hence the reason george or cindy gave casey the"no,no,shutup"faces when casey brought up the ladder being fished out of the pool with the shovel"story".


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 11:40:48 AM
The other thing I find so inconsistent about the pool is that Cindy & George did the maintenance go.  Odd for people with an immaculately kept house, who washed decomp smelling pants, have a meticulously ordered garage to park in, are on record discussing digging up bamboo shoots in the backyard/moving landscaping/laying pavers, are featured in numerous family pictures engaged in backyard activities with their granddaughter (swimming, playing, supervising), spend lots of well-documented time cutting the grass/trimming the lawn/liming the yard, and are always immaculately dressed (although sometimes inappropriately for court appearances and depositions) and well-groomed.  Ignoring the pool care was no accident IMO.  I'm thinking something occurred in that pool and letting it go was the best way to hide any chemical evidence.  The other thought that comes to mind is if your granddaughter was murdered in the pool, adding chemicals wouldn't make it all ready to use, but who could stomach dumping it and disinfecting it either?  Seriously, if it's just a matter of adding chemicals, how long could it possibly take to clean a pool that size?  I'm sure they've done it hundreds (maybe a thousand) times before June 15th...why not after?   
:smt039 Hi Monkeys...

ISpy, was Cindy the one who said the pool maintenance was "let go?"  Was this to the media or to LE, or was it from some other source that we know this?  There were those pool-chemical containers that LE apparently confiscated in the searches of the A's home after Caylee was found, remember?  It is interesting to contemplate possibilities, especially as we are rethinking how the pool might play into the plot ...

(I do remember hearing about them neglecting the pool maintenance before, but can't recall the details.  And for some reason this morning, Google is NOT being my friend... Trying to find the source / original statement on this.)
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Know what occurred to me when I read your post? 

The A's letting their pool get dirty could be a fitting metaphor:

1)  They are definitely playing "dirty pool."
2)  They have been muddying the waters from "Day 1."
3)  And there's another pool they want to contaminate:  the JURY pool.

Cool post, ISpy.
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May I add this thought:  Knowing the A's, it is also likely that the focus on the pool and ladder stories is nothing more than one great big red herring, to cover up something relating to Caylee's death... Here we are, snapping at what might be false bait.  Only Caylee can tell us the real story, and I pray that through forensics and fate and the diligence of LE and the State, her story will be heard...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 11:42:35 AM
The ladder in the pool story sounds unlikely.
Even more so:  Using a shovel to "remove" a ladder from a pool.
Picture of pool ladder:
I think Caylee accidently drowning in the pool may have been yet another anthony "story".Maybe they thought or discussed this as a way to possibly get casey less time and forgot to tell casey that they were dropping that"story",hence the reason george or cindy gave casey the"no,no,shutup"faces when casey brought up the ladder being fished out of the pool with the shovel"story".
WHOA!  Karma... wow, great minds, or what?? (see what I posted right after you)    ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Jesse on September 06, 2009, 11:44:40 AM
May I add this thought:  Knowing the A's, it is also likely that the focus on the pool and ladder stories is nothing more than one great big red herring, to cover up something relating to Caylee's death... Here we are, snapping at what might be false bait.  Only Caylee can tell us the real story, and I pray that through forensics and fate and the diligence of LE and the State, her story will be heard...
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didnt Cindy at one point mention she thought it could have been an accident? so knowing how they like to stage things, they may have started by staging an excuse for Casey early on. The pool story would have been the "accidental" death to keep her from the DP.
also as far as Dom Casey, i too think he had inside information on where the body was, and that bozo knew or why would he have told Dom if he found anything, not to call 911


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 06, 2009, 11:47:56 AM
Pic:

Wow - that is disconcerting that Tracy would be protecting the Ant's (from themselves -sindy in this case!) in November!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 06, 2009, 11:51:05 AM

didnt Cindy at one point mention she thought it could have been an accident? so knowing how they like to stage things, they may have started by staging an excuse for Casey early on. The pool story would have been the "accidental" death to keep her from the DP.
also as far as Dom Casey, i too think he had inside information on where the body was, and that bozo knew or why would he have told Dom if he found anything, not to call 911

I'm kinda thinking along these lines too. They were better off with no body, but once Caylee was found, they would have some sort of back up story planned. All depending on what evidence LE could put together, and what defense Baez had up his sleeve. And so far, since there's no smoking gun so to speak, they're gonna keep this to themselves til need be. MO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 06, 2009, 12:16:11 PM
One of the things I find indisputable when this comes to trial is Dominic Casey searching those woods 300+ feet away on his first attempt and 60+/- feet on his second try.  Someone with knowledge directed him to those particular woods and to check black trash bags.  I'm guessing Casey's closest confidant and secret-keeper Lee is the someone and that's why he needed immunity in his deposition.  So he will not be prosecuted for withholding information in a pending investigation/missing persons case.  He's not going to take the fall for Casey, no matter how loyal she thinks he is.  He's not that stupid.  Only a handful of people knew where Caylee was IMO:  Casey, Lee, Cindy, George, and/or maybe Baez.  Since Dominic Casey worked for Cindy and the Anthonys, there you go.  IMO, at least one of them, as well as possibly Baez had knowledge.  Baez might be covered under Attorney-Client privilege.  Anyone else was obstructing an investigation, falsifying information, aiding and abetting. I'm not buying the whole psychic tale and I seriously doubt anyone else will either, Judge or jury-wise.  If I were Orange County, I'd be filing a search warrant for all of Baez' computers personal and professional.   
Pavers.

They seem to have been looking for pavers as a landmark.  That had to come from somewhere; most likely from Casey.

IMO, it could have been any number of people who passed along the information to Dominic.  Lee, certainly.  Or Casey herself, who did meet with Dominic in jail.  Or Baez.  Or someone else.  Er, perhaps it was NOT an out-of-state psychic on the phone... sorry Dominic.

Apparently Casey did not realize that there were other groups of pavers that would mislead and confuse these bumblers.

JMO

The pavers were definitley something D Casey was looking for, and a psychic wasn't on the phone, and didn't give him directions. Someone who had gotten directions for someone was giving him instructions. It was a pretty big place, and would be easy not to find the exact sport unless they were there, or going by what was told him I still feel pretty sure it was Lee. If not him, it was Spindy. But why were they trying to find her then? To remove her permanently??

Agggg, getting confused here - is this a fact or your opinion?  Am I missing something?  Did the phone records prove he was lying?  Someone link me - I hate it when I miss something.

It is my OPINION that he was led there, but I sure want to have something to back it up, so will a nice monkey linkey me please!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 06, 2009, 12:30:43 PM


Agggg, getting confused here - is this a fact or your opinion?  Am I missing something?  Did the phone records prove he was lying?  Someone link me - I hate it when I miss something.

It is my OPINION that he was led there, but I sure want to have something to back it up, so will a nice monkey linkey me please!

Hi ANJM, I don't think any records have ever come out proving he was lying, but I could be wrong. I bet they will have records of a call to that physic woman tho, just because they knew their records may be looked at. That's my opinion anyway. And I agree with you that he was led there!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 12:36:20 PM
One of the things I find indisputable when this comes to trial is Dominic Casey searching those woods 300+ feet away on his first attempt and 60+/- feet on his second try.  Someone with knowledge directed him to those particular woods and to check black trash bags.  I'm guessing Casey's closest confidant and secret-keeper Lee is the someone and that's why he needed immunity in his deposition.  So he will not be prosecuted for withholding information in a pending investigation/missing persons case.  He's not going to take the fall for Casey, no matter how loyal she thinks he is.  He's not that stupid.  Only a handful of people knew where Caylee was IMO:  Casey, Lee, Cindy, George, and/or maybe Baez.  Since Dominic Casey worked for Cindy and the Anthonys, there you go.  IMO, at least one of them, as well as possibly Baez had knowledge.  Baez might be covered under Attorney-Client privilege.  Anyone else was obstructing an investigation, falsifying information, aiding and abetting. I'm not buying the whole psychic tale and I seriously doubt anyone else will either, Judge or jury-wise.  If I were Orange County, I'd be filing a search warrant for all of Baez' computers personal and professional.   
Pavers.
They seem to have been looking for pavers as a landmark.  That had to come from somewhere; most likely from Casey.
IMO, it could have been any number of people who passed along the information to Dominic.  Lee, certainly.  Or Casey herself, who did meet with Dominic in jail.  Or Baez.  Or someone else.  Er, perhaps it was NOT an out-of-state psychic on the phone... sorry Dominic.
Apparently Casey did not realize that there were other groups of pavers that would mislead and confuse these bumblers.
JMO
I dunno.  If you listen to one of the first interviews LE did, with one of the Anthonys' neighbor- the Bailey Dickens tape,  the husband states that Kiomarie told the police in the earliest days that most likely Casey would dump a body right in that spot and they ought to search there...   I would still like to know what was done to follow up that suggestion.
Western, I believe you are right about the neighbor saying that.  However, ICBW but IIRC, the detective who met with Kio at "the zone" off of Suburban near the school gave a description of the location she pointed out.  And I believe it was not in the same area where Caylee was found.  Again, ICBW, just going from memory.

That is why it seemed to me that Dominic's explanation of why he originally decided to search that section of Suburban in November (lol, Uh, right. ---  he decided to go there just before getting that perfectly-timed "tip" call from the "psychic") -- seemed bogus from the git-go.

Like I said, ICBW.  But I think "the zone" that Kio refers to might be nearer to the school and/or on the other side of the street.  Could have sworn I read somewhere that THAT area has now been fenced ...

Kio said that "the zone" was BEHIND HIDDEN OAKS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, whatever that means.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 06, 2009, 12:39:37 PM
<------------------------ Snipped other great stuff to highlight this:
The A's letting their pool get dirty could be a fitting metaphor:

1)  They are definitely playing "dirty pool."
2)  They have been muddying the waters from "Day 1."
3)  And there's another pool they want to contaminate:  the JURY pool.



BRILLIANT METAPHOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I do so love this brain candy!  BRAVO!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 12:42:21 PM
The ladder in the pool story sounds unlikely.

Even more so:  Using a shovel to "remove" a ladder from a pool.

Picture of pool ladder:

Desi- Thank you for the visual clarification!  Great point!  There's no way Casey could have used the shovel to get the ladder out of the pool.  The ladder would be awkward, at best, lying in the pool.  I don't think Casey could have managed to get it out by herself, even if she was in the pool because she'd have to lift it so far above to clear the side of the pool.  JMO

I'm not sure why they started the pool story but here is what I know about above ground pool ladders.

There are generally two types; A frame ladders which have steps outside and inside the pool and deck to pool ladders, where the steps are in the pool and the ladder attaches to the deck.  From the pics it appears the A's have an A frame ladder.  These ladders are made from a heavy plastic or resin so they are tough but light.  With A frame ladders it is the weight of the water that gets into the ladder frame that keeps it weighted down inside the pool.  Some people will put sand inside the frame if they don't plan to move the ladder much.  Casey could conceivably move the ladder out of the pool, especially as the water runs out of the frame, the ladder becomes lighter.

The story about using the shovel to remove the ladder is ridiculous.  Don't see how or why anyone would try that.  Also, the moment that shovel is put against the vinyl liner it will put a hole in the liner and then the pool will have a leak. 

I'd be curious to know what type of filter was on the A's pool, typcially in Florida the above ground pools will have a sand filter, some will use a DE filter.  A DE filter would be easier for LE to find evidnce in because of the grids that filter particles from the water.  The sand filter would also catch these particles (depending on the size of the particles) but you have to remember for their size above ground pool that filter has 100 - 150 pounds of sand.  Also, a simple backwash of the filter after she was done and I would think Skank could have gotten rid of a lot of evidence in the water.

I do believe Caylee was in or near that pool, and I firmly believe she was laid on the ground in that shallow depression, a lot happened in that backyard!
<bump>
 NCMike, thank you so much for the firsthand, expert details on this subject.  Very helpful to the current discussion, IMO.
 :smt038


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 06, 2009, 12:42:54 PM


Agggg, getting confused here - is this a fact or your opinion?  Am I missing something?  Did the phone records prove he was lying?  Someone link me - I hate it when I miss something.

It is my OPINION that he was led there, but I sure want to have something to back it up, so will a nice monkey linkey me please!

Hi ANJM, I don't think any records have ever come out proving he was lying, but I could be wrong. I bet they will have records of a call to that physic woman tho, just because they knew their records may be looked at. That's my opinion anyway. And I agree with you that he was led there!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thanks Gizzie - I get so confused when things are stated as facts.  I have to watch myself from learning false information based on opinions - and find myself always thinking - wait I remember and off to google I go to see if I am crazy yet!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 06, 2009, 12:47:07 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Where is all the really good juicy stuff at? This case has way too many threads to really get to. I try but it's tough. If there is anything good please let me know.                                 ( Now why is this Tony? Who are you running to with the juicy stuff? I don't trust any of them, they all have an agenda and it all involves making money. This was from WS)

The reason I question whether this really is Tony is I have noticed in the last year +  that a lot of people from Orlando leaving that dangling participle 'at' at the end of their sentences.  Could this really be someone from Orlando pretending to be Tony ?

Good catch Ono......and accurate......my aunt in Casselberry uses the dangling "at"...... ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 12:47:15 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Where is all the really good juicy stuff at? This case has way too many threads to really get to. I try but it's tough. If there is anything good please let me know.                                 ( Now why is this Tony? Who are you running to with the juicy stuff? I don't trust any of them, they all have an agenda and it all involves making money. This was from WS)

The reason I question whether this really is Tony is I have noticed in the last year +  that a lot of people from Orlando leaving that dangling participle 'at' at the end of their sentences.  Could this really be someone from Orlando pretending to be Tony ?
Gee, Ono, where'd you get that idea 'at'?  ::MonkeyCool::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 06, 2009, 12:49:35 PM
Just jumping in and might have not seen this when I skimmed the pages to get caught up, but didn't LE also suggest it was an accident in the beginning? Or am I totally off on that.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 06, 2009, 12:53:01 PM


Thanks Gizzie - I get so confused when things are stated as facts.  I have to watch myself from learning false information based on opinions - and find myself always thinking - wait I remember and off to google I go to see if I am crazy yet!

Well, I hope I'm not giving you incorrect information! I just don't recall any records coming about regarding DC. I too get very confused, and would hate to add to yours!   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 06, 2009, 01:01:21 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Where is all the really good juicy stuff at? This case has way too many threads to really get to. I try but it's tough. If there is anything good please let me know.                                 ( Now why is this Tony? Who are you running to with the juicy stuff? I don't trust any of them, they all have an agenda and it all involves making money. This was from WS)

The reason I question whether this really is Tony is I have noticed in the last year +  that a lot of people from Orlando leaving that dangling participle 'at' at the end of their sentences.  Could this really be someone from Orlando pretending to be Tony ?
Gee, Ono, where'd you get that idea 'at'?  ::MonkeyCool::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

(http://i26.tinypic.com/wwdau0.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 06, 2009, 01:02:43 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Where is all the really good juicy stuff at? This case has way too many threads to really get to. I try but it's tough. If there is anything good please let me know.                                 ( Now why is this Tony? Who are you running to with the juicy stuff? I don't trust any of them, they all have an agenda and it all involves making money. This was from WS)

The reason I question whether this really is Tony is I have noticed in the last year +  that a lot of people from Orlando leaving that dangling participle 'at' at the end of their sentences.  Could this really be someone from Orlando pretending to be Tony ?
Gee, Ono, where'd you get that idea 'at'?  ::MonkeyCool::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyCheer2:: LMAO ::MonkeyCheer2::

Ono - you would think that after the hanging chad's the people in Florida would have their dangling participle down! LOL  Wonder if Tony is a person in Florida.  I am still not totally buying he is the real Tony - afterall, they check out everyone over there (why you can't have a yahoo or hotmail addy) and they had a little internal problem recently.  So............

BTW - MikeNC - thank you for being our new pool man - we lost a member whose hubby used to give us the 411!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 06, 2009, 01:06:01 PM


Agggg, getting confused here - is this a fact or your opinion?  Am I missing something?  Did the phone records prove he was lying?  Someone link me - I hate it when I miss something.

It is my OPINION that he was led there, but I sure want to have something to back it up, so will a nice monkey linkey me please!

Hi ANJM, I don't think any records have ever come out proving he was lying, but I could be wrong. I bet they will have records of a call to that physic woman tho, just because they knew their records may be looked at. That's my opinion anyway. And I agree with you that he was led there!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Good Morning Monks old and new!!  I don't think he was on the phone with a physic at that time because I am sure D Casey never thought Hoover would rat him out. ::MonkeyWink::  I do agree that he was being led there but not by anyone other than someone connected to the case. And to the best of my knowledge D. Casey's phone records have not been released. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 06, 2009, 01:07:19 PM
<------------------------ Snipped other great stuff to highlight this:
The A's letting their pool get dirty could be a fitting metaphor:

1)  They are definitely playing "dirty pool."
2)  They have been muddying the waters from "Day 1."
3)  And there's another pool they want to contaminate:  the JURY pool.



BRILLIANT METAPHOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I do so love this brain candy!  BRAVO!

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ANJ - I love your brain candy! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 06, 2009, 01:09:24 PM


Agggg, getting confused here - is this a fact or your opinion?  Am I missing something?  Did the phone records prove he was lying?  Someone link me - I hate it when I miss something.

It is my OPINION that he was led there, but I sure want to have something to back it up, so will a nice monkey linkey me please!

Hi ANJM, I don't think any records have ever come out proving he was lying, but I could be wrong. I bet they will have records of a call to that physic woman tho, just because they knew their records may be looked at. That's my opinion anyway. And I agree with you that he was led there!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thanks Gizzie - I get so confused when things are stated as facts.  I have to watch myself from learning false information based on opinions - and find myself always thinking - wait I remember and off to google I go to see if I am crazy yet!

We all have to be careful of not taking what another states as an opinion as fact....and it's difficult to do....so we need to remember to police ourselves on this.  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 06, 2009, 01:09:26 PM


Agggg, getting confused here - is this a fact or your opinion?  Am I missing something?  Did the phone records prove he was lying?  Someone link me - I hate it when I miss something.

It is my OPINION that he was led there, but I sure want to have something to back it up, so will a nice monkey linkey me please!

Hi ANJM, I don't think any records have ever come out proving he was lying, but I could be wrong. I bet they will have records of a call to that physic woman tho, just because they knew their records may be looked at. That's my opinion anyway. And I agree with you that he was led there!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Good Morning Monks old and new!!  I don't think he was on the phone with a physic at that time because I am sure D Casey never thought Hoover would rat him out. ::MonkeyWink::  I do agree that he was being led there but not by anyone other than someone connected to the case. And to the best of my knowledge D. Casey's phone records have not been released. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Okay, two trusted sources saying I am not going crazy looking for something that is not out yet.  Whewwwwwww 
So it is still rumor - but our hinky meter, women's intuition (strong tool, I might add) says it is bunk, but we have to wait to call it fact!
Thanks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 06, 2009, 01:11:23 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Where is all the really good juicy stuff at? This case has way too many threads to really get to. I try but it's tough. If there is anything good please let me know.                                 ( Now why is this Tony? Who are you running to with the juicy stuff? I don't trust any of them, they all have an agenda and it all involves making money. This was from WS)

The reason I question whether this really is Tony is I have noticed in the last year +  that a lot of people from Orlando leaving that dangling participle 'at' at the end of their sentences.  Could this really be someone from Orlando pretending to be Tony ?
Gee, Ono, where'd you get that idea 'at'?  ::MonkeyCool::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  a lot of folks in MO and IL do the same thing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 06, 2009, 01:12:58 PM
<------------------------ Snipped other great stuff to highlight this:
The A's letting their pool get dirty could be a fitting metaphor:

1)  They are definitely playing "dirty pool."
2)  They have been muddying the waters from "Day 1."
3)  And there's another pool they want to contaminate:  the JURY pool.



BRILLIANT METAPHOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I do so love this brain candy!  BRAVO!

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ANJ - I love your brain candy! 

LOL - Not sure I have brain candy, but I do see things in pic's sometimes! LOL  Some are good finds, so challenge me like the "ghost" refection in the DC video - notice this new one is nice and clear - grrrrrrr.  But, I did finally prove it to myself!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 06, 2009, 01:13:31 PM
Just jumping in and might have not seen this when I skimmed the pages to get caught up, but didn't LE also suggest it was an accident in the beginning? Or am I totally off on that.  ::MonkeyConfused::

Yes, when they were talking to kc after she finally admitted she had no office. That first day. Also the attorney who argued against the DP the first time insinuated an accident IIRC


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 06, 2009, 01:13:34 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Interesting. I have heard that quote before. It's in a movie I think. Okay point well taken about the metaphor. However, I really believe that everybody here (or a huge majority) paint the Anthony's to be rotten horrible people. They cant wait to "cast another stone". Again I don not agree with what they have done or siad about numerous things but do you think you could be rational in those shoes?
(I don't trust Tony, I want to know what his agenda really is, and it isn't in my opinion justice for Caylee, I see dollar signs.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 06, 2009, 01:14:08 PM
Just jumping in and might have not seen this when I skimmed the pages to get caught up, but didn't LE also suggest it was an accident in the beginning? Or am I totally off on that.  ::MonkeyConfused::

Yes, when they were talking to kc after she finally admitted she had no office. That first day. Also the attorney who argued against the DP the first time insinuated an accident IIRC
Thank-you  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 06, 2009, 01:15:21 PM
IIRC when LE asked the psychic to provide her phone records she didn't, said she couldn't at that time they were on her father's bill.  Of course all LE needed was her phone number to check if it showed up on Doms phone records. 

What I believe is that Lee knew approximately where the body was from clues and discussions with Casey.  I believe that Lee is the person on the pone with Dom while he is scouring the woods and the abandoned house.  Cindy and George were at the meet and greet that morning.

A couple of things that struck me about Tracy's interview.

1.  Lee seemed to running the show in the A family as far as their story's and what was done.  It was Lee who came in and said no polygraphs..when all of them had said they would take one....Tracy says that even Casey said she would through Baez.  Lee is telling his mother how to act and what to do when Casey is being rearrested.  Take about the screwy leading the screwy.

2.  Tracy asked for immunity and had a lawyer there during her LE interview.  Why?
I firmly believe, just my opinion, that LP and Rob had her wired during the entire time she was in the house.  When they got there and realized they could not have their guns with them, they could not use the safe house they had planned on using, they went to plan B.  Plan be being them in the motor home out front with guns, listening to everything going on in the house via a wire Tracey is wearing.  I do not believe that LP would have allowed Tracey alone in the house with just a cellphone to communicate.  I do believe that they did communicate vis the cell and text messaging.  But I also believe that they could hear what was going on in there.   Remember at one point Tracy gets a text from rob asking if she is alright  when a lot of hubbub was going on in the house.

Tracy would need immunity for wiretapping without the person's consent.  Also  I don't think that testimony could be used.  However, everything she herself heard and communicated to LP and Rob could be used as testimony, via text or cellphone could be used.  Just my opinion of why she may have felt she needed immunity..



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NCMike on September 06, 2009, 01:16:12 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Where is all the really good juicy stuff at? This case has way too many threads to really get to. I try but it's tough. If there is anything good please let me know.                                 ( Now why is this Tony? Who are you running to with the juicy stuff? I don't trust any of them, they all have an agenda and it all involves making money. This was from WS)

The reason I question whether this really is Tony is I have noticed in the last year +  that a lot of people from Orlando leaving that dangling participle 'at' at the end of their sentences.  Could this really be someone from Orlando pretending to be Tony ?
Gee, Ono, where'd you get that idea 'at'?  ::MonkeyCool::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyCheer2:: LMAO ::MonkeyCheer2::

Ono - you would think that after the hanging chad's the people in Florida would have their dangling participle down! LOL  Wonder if Tony is a person in Florida.  I am still not totally buying he is the real Tony - afterall, they check out everyone over there (why you can't have a yahoo or hotmail addy) and they had a little internal problem recently.  So............

BTW - MikeNC - thank you for being our new pool man - we lost a member whose hubby used to give us the 411!

I'm aware of that, some of her pool info was a little off, but since I never believed a word she said I didn't want to get into it with her. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 06, 2009, 01:16:46 PM
<------------------------ Snipped other great stuff to highlight this:
The A's letting their pool get dirty could be a fitting metaphor:

1)  They are definitely playing "dirty pool."
2)  They have been muddying the waters from "Day 1."
3)  And there's another pool they want to contaminate:  the JURY pool.



BRILLIANT METAPHOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I do so love this brain candy!  BRAVO!

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ANJ - I love your brain candy! 

LOL - Not sure I have brain candy, but I do see things in pic's sometimes! LOL  Some are good finds, some challenge me like the "ghost" refection in the DC video - notice this new one is nice and clear - grrrrrrr.  But, I did finally prove it to myself!
Fixing my own dangling half word! LOL 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 06, 2009, 01:21:22 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Interesting. I have heard that quote before. It's in a movie I think. Okay point well taken about the metaphor. However, I really believe that everybody here (or a huge majority) paint the Anthony's to be rotten horrible people. They cant wait to "cast another stone". Again I don not agree with what they have done or siad about numerous things but do you think you could be rational in those shoes?
(I don't trust Tony, I want to know what his agenda really is, and it isn't in my opinion justice for Caylee, I see dollar signs.)

Wait, did he see Desi metaphor already????????? 
Tony - if you are reading:  It's called spell check. Look into it.  Seriously, I am not buying it is him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 06, 2009, 01:22:07 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Interesting. I have heard that quote before. It's in a movie I think. Okay point well taken about the metaphor. However, I really believe that everybody here (or a huge majority) paint the Anthony's to be rotten horrible people. They cant wait to "cast another stone". Again I don not agree with what they have done or siad about numerous things but do you think you could be rational in those shoes?
(I don't trust Tony, I want to know what his agenda really is, and it isn't in my opinion justice for Caylee, I see dollar signs.)

nrcg....I don't trust him either. First of all why in the hell is he talking so bad about LP? Even if the thinks it, what is the point of putting it on a forum on the Internet.? I honestly think he is JEALOUS!!! But I also think he has another motive.....I just don't know what that motive is.  Why didn't the A's do like other families and get a spokesperson for the family....A trusted friend, minister or relative?? Why didn't they keep their mouths shut? Why didn't they look for Caylee?  I don't know if I could be rational, but I do know I wouldn't try to alienate the whole frigging world....especially people like Tim and TES and Mark Nejame.  Both of these people offered help to them.....no charge....but neither would allow the A's to run the show.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 06, 2009, 01:23:55 PM
IIRC when LE asked the psychic to provide her phone records she didn't, said she couldn't at that time they were on her father's bill.  Of course all LE needed was her phone number to check if it showed up on Doms phone records. 

What I believe is that Lee knew approximately where the body was from clues and discussions with Casey.  I believe that Lee is the person on the pone with Dom while he is scouring the woods and the abandoned house.  Cindy and George were at the meet and greet that morning.

A couple of things that struck me about Tracy's interview.

1.  Lee seemed to running the show in the A family as far as their story's and what was done.  It was Lee who came in and said no polygraphs..when all of them had said they would take one....Tracy says that even Casey said she would through Baez.  Lee is telling his mother how to act and what to do when Casey is being rearrested.  Take about the screwy leading the screwy.

2.  Tracy asked for immunity and had a lawyer there during her LE interview.  Why?
I firmly believe, just my opinion, that LP and Rob had her wired during the entire time she was in the house.  When they got there and realized they could not have their guns with them, they could not use the safe house they had planned on using, they went to plan B.  Plan be being them in the motor home out front with guns, listening to everything going on in the house via a wire Tracey is wearing.  I do not believe that LP would have allowed Tracey alone in the house with just a cellphone to communicate.  I do believe that they did communicate vis the cell and text messaging.  But I also believe that they could hear what was going on in there.   Remember at one point Tracy gets a text from rob asking if she is alright  when a lot of hubbub was going on in the house.

Tracy would need immunity for wiretapping without the person's consent.  Also  I don't think that testimony could be used.  However, everything she herself heard and communicated to LP and Rob could be used as testimony, via text or cellphone could be used.  Just my opinion of why she may have felt she needed immunity..



That was what I recalled, re the psychic.

#2 - EXACTLY my theory too! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 01:26:36 PM
Just jumping in and might have not seen this when I skimmed the pages to get caught up, but didn't LE also suggest it was an accident in the beginning? Or am I totally off on that.  ::MonkeyConfused::
You are not off, NRCG!  They did.  It could have been a way to offer an easy "out" for Casey so she would confess, and thereby help them locate Caylee's remains.  LE tactic perhaps.  Or maybe they really were fielding the possibility that it could have been an accident at that early stage in the investigation.

Then chloroform came into the picture...

And then one day a meter reader needed to relieve himself... and the rest is history.  When Caylee's remains were found, well... it's not a very likely possibility that the duct tape "accidentally" got plastered all over Caylee's lower face...  But you are right, in the beginning, LE DID indeed (in witness interviews and IIRC in media reports?) proffer the theory that Casey could be covering up an accidental death... and yet Cindy always said NO WAY -- Casey would come straight to us if Caylee so much as skinned her knee, blah blah blah...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 06, 2009, 01:27:07 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Where is all the really good juicy stuff at? This case has way too many threads to really get to. I try but it's tough. If there is anything good please let me know.                                 ( Now why is this Tony? Who are you running to with the juicy stuff? I don't trust any of them, they all have an agenda and it all involves making money. This was from WS)

The reason I question whether this really is Tony is I have noticed in the last year +  that a lot of people from Orlando leaving that dangling participle 'at' at the end of their sentences.  Could this really be someone from Orlando pretending to be Tony ?
Gee, Ono, where'd you get that idea 'at'?  ::MonkeyCool::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyCheer2:: LMAO ::MonkeyCheer2::

Ono - you would think that after the hanging chad's the people in Florida would have their dangling participle down! LOL  Wonder if Tony is a person in Florida.  I am still not totally buying he is the real Tony - afterall, they check out everyone over there (why you can't have a yahoo or hotmail addy) and they had a little internal problem recently.  So............

BTW - MikeNC - thank you for being our new pool man - we lost a member whose hubby used to give us the 411!

I'm aware of that, some of her pool info was a little off, but since I never believed a word she said I didn't want to get into it with her. 

Giggle, giggle - you caught me having fun with myself again!  BTW - ME EITHER.  Gotta run, need to meet my driver to take me to the design studio! 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 06, 2009, 01:31:04 PM
IIRC when LE asked the psychic to provide her phone records she didn't, said she couldn't at that time they were on her father's bill.  Of course all LE needed was her phone number to check if it showed up on Doms phone records. 

What I believe is that Lee knew approximately where the body was from clues and discussions with Casey.  I believe that Lee is the person on the pone with Dom while he is scouring the woods and the abandoned house.  Cindy and George were at the meet and greet that morning.

A couple of things that struck me about Tracy's interview.

1.  Lee seemed to running the show in the A family as far as their story's and what was done.  It was Lee who came in and said no polygraphs..when all of them had said they would take one....Tracy says that even Casey said she would through Baez.  Lee is telling his mother how to act and what to do when Casey is being rearrested.  Take about the screwy leading the screwy.

2.  Tracy asked for immunity and had a lawyer there during her LE interview.  Why?
I firmly believe, just my opinion, that LP and Rob had her wired during the entire time she was in the house.  When they got there and realized they could not have their guns with them, they could not use the safe house they had planned on using, they went to plan B.  Plan be being them in the motor home out front with guns, listening to everything going on in the house via a wire Tracey is wearing.  I do not believe that LP would have allowed Tracey alone in the house with just a cellphone to communicate.  I do believe that they did communicate vis the cell and text messaging.  But I also believe that they could hear what was going on in there.   Remember at one point Tracy gets a text from rob asking if she is alright  when a lot of hubbub was going on in the house.

Tracy would need immunity for wiretapping without the person's consent.  Also  I don't think that testimony could be used.  However, everything she herself heard and communicated to LP and Rob could be used as testimony, via text or cellphone could be used.  Just my opinion of why she may have felt she needed immunity..


My thoughts as well, and it was very obvious that Lee  ::MonkeyRoll:: was running the show.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: karenmamo on September 06, 2009, 01:31:44 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Interesting. I have heard that quote before. It's in a movie I think. Okay point well taken about the metaphor. However, I really believe that everybody here (or a huge majority) paint the Anthony's to be rotten horrible people. They cant wait to "cast another stone". Again I don not agree with what they have done or siad about numerous things but do you think you could be rational in those shoes?
(I don't trust Tony, I want to know what his agenda really is, and it isn't in my opinion justice for Caylee, I see dollar signs.)

Wait, did he see Desi metaphor already????????? 
Tony - if you are reading:  It's called spell check. Look into it.  Seriously, I am not buying it is him.

It really is Tony. I have debated the last couple of days about bringing Rob's comments over from his site. It feels wrong, yet he has never said not to do it.  His take on
Tony and the rest is most informative.  I am still debating.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 06, 2009, 01:35:58 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Interesting. I have heard that quote before. It's in a movie I think. Okay point well taken about the metaphor. However, I really believe that everybody here (or a huge majority) paint the Anthony's to be rotten horrible people. They cant wait to "cast another stone". Again I don not agree with what they have done or siad about numerous things but do you think you could be rational in those shoes?
(I don't trust Tony, I want to know what his agenda really is, and it isn't in my opinion justice for Caylee, I see dollar signs.)

Wait, did he see Desi metaphor already????????? 
Tony - if you are reading:  It's called spell check. Look into it.  Seriously, I am not buying it is him.

It really is Tony. I have debated the last couple of days about bringing Rob's comments over from his site. It feels wrong, yet he has never said not to do it.  His take on
Tony and the rest is most informative.  I am still debating.

Karen - can you ask him - or better yet, invite him over and give him my phone number too?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 06, 2009, 01:37:58 PM
Just jumping in and might have not seen this when I skimmed the pages to get caught up, but didn't LE also suggest it was an accident in the beginning? Or am I totally off on that.  ::MonkeyConfused::
You are not off, NRCG!  They did.  It could have been a way to offer an easy "out" for Casey so she would confess, and thereby help them locate Caylee's remains.  LE tactic perhaps.  Or maybe they really were fielding the possibility that it could have been an accident at that early stage in the investigation.

Then chloroform came into the picture...

And then one day a meter reader needed to relieve himself... and the rest is history.  When Caylee's remains were found, well... it's not a very likely possibility that the duct tape "accidentally" got plastered all over Caylee's lower face...  But you are right, in the beginning, LE DID indeed (in witness interviews and IIRC in media reports?) proffer the theory that Casey could be covering up an accidental death... and yet Cindy always said NO WAY -- Casey would come straight to us if Caylee so much as skinned her knee, blah blah blah...

Thank-you. I'm going to write this and I don't want people to be upset with me, but it is really bugging me. I know a lot of people think this was a premeditated murder, and maybe it was, I don't know. But for some reason after listening to some of the things that Tracy especially was saying about Casey, and that she has no grip on reality. Is there any chance that Caylee died accidently in the pool, Casey then set this all up, duct tape, and all these outlandish stories, could she have snapped when it happened, was she afraid for Cindy especially to find out? 99% of us when there is a tragic accident would do the proper thing, but if she has no grasp on reality.....     Just a thought, and most likely a bad thought.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 06, 2009, 01:38:14 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Interesting. I have heard that quote before. It's in a movie I think. Okay point well taken about the metaphor. However, I really believe that everybody here (or a huge majority) paint the Anthony's to be rotten horrible people. They cant wait to "cast another stone". Again I don not agree with what they have done or siad about numerous things but do you think you could be rational in those shoes?
(I don't trust Tony, I want to know what his agenda really is, and it isn't in my opinion justice for Caylee, I see dollar signs.)

Wait, did he see Desi metaphor already????????? 
Tony - if you are reading:  It's called spell check. Look into it.  Seriously, I am not buying it is him.

It really is Tony. I have debated the last couple of days about bringing Rob's comments over from his site. It feels wrong, yet he has never said not to do it.  His take on
Tony and the rest is most informative.  I am still debating.

Please do...I would like to know what he thinks.............especially about Tony. You must be a member of his forum......so please ask him why he was letting Cindy hug and rub on him....uuuuuuggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 06, 2009, 01:40:19 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Interesting. I have heard that quote before. It's in a movie I think. Okay point well taken about the metaphor. However, I really believe that everybody here (or a huge majority) paint the Anthony's to be rotten horrible people. They cant wait to "cast another stone". Again I don not agree with what they have done or said about numerous things but do you think you could be rational in those shoes?
(I don't trust Tony, I want to know what his agenda really is, and it isn't in my opinion justice for Caylee, I see dollar signs.)

Wait, did he see Desi metaphor already????????? 
Tony - if you are reading:  It's called spell check. Look into it.  Seriously, I am not buying it is him.

It really is Tony. I have debated the last couple of days about bringing Rob's comments over from his site. It feels wrong, yet he has never said not to do it.  His take on
Tony and the rest is most informative.  I am still debating.

Karen - can you ask him - or better yet, invite him over and give him my phone number too?

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: Hussy!!!   I wish he didn't charge to be on his forum...I am not cheap...but I would never pay to be on a forum...unless it was SM of course ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NCMike on September 06, 2009, 01:41:33 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Where is all the really good juicy stuff at? This case has way too many threads to really get to. I try but it's tough. If there is anything good please let me know.                                 ( Now why is this Tony? Who are you running to with the juicy stuff? I don't trust any of them, they all have an agenda and it all involves making money. This was from WS)

The reason I question whether this really is Tony is I have noticed in the last year +  that a lot of people from Orlando leaving that dangling participle 'at' at the end of their sentences.  Could this really be someone from Orlando pretending to be Tony ?
Gee, Ono, where'd you get that idea 'at'?  ::MonkeyCool::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyCheer2:: LMAO ::MonkeyCheer2::

Ono - you would think that after the hanging chad's the people in Florida would have their dangling participle down! LOL  Wonder if Tony is a person in Florida.  I am still not totally buying he is the real Tony - afterall, they check out everyone over there (why you can't have a yahoo or hotmail addy) and they had a little internal problem recently.  So............

BTW - MikeNC - thank you for being our new pool man - we lost a member whose hubby used to give us the 411!

I'm aware of that, some of her pool info was a little off, but since I never believed a word she said I didn't want to get into it with her. 

Giggle, giggle - you caught me having fun with myself again!  BTW - ME EITHER.  Gotta run, need to meet my driver to take me to the design studio! 



Thanks for the laugh!  I'll check in with you monkeys later - keep up the good fight.

Almost forgot - George turned another year older but he still has no balls!!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 06, 2009, 01:42:36 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Where is all the really good juicy stuff at? This case has way too many threads to really get to. I try but it's tough. If there is anything good please let me know.                                 ( Now why is this Tony? Who are you running to with the juicy stuff? I don't trust any of them, they all have an agenda and it all involves making money. This was from WS)

The reason I question whether this really is Tony is I have noticed in the last year +  that a lot of people from Orlando leaving that dangling participle 'at' at the end of their sentences.  Could this really be someone from Orlando pretending to be Tony ?

Good catch Ono......and accurate......my aunt in Casselberry uses the dangling "at"...... ::MonkeyHaHa::


 ::MonkeyHaHa::   It drives me wild.  lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 06, 2009, 01:43:31 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Interesting. I have heard that quote before. It's in a movie I think. Okay point well taken about the metaphor. However, I really believe that everybody here (or a huge majority) paint the Anthony's to be rotten horrible people. They cant wait to "cast another stone". Again I don not agree with what they have done or said about numerous things but do you think you could be rational in those shoes?
(I don't trust Tony, I want to know what his agenda really is, and it isn't in my opinion justice for Caylee, I see dollar signs.)

Wait, did he see Desi metaphor already????????? 
Tony - if you are reading:  It's called spell check. Look into it.  Seriously, I am not buying it is him.

It really is Tony. I have debated the last couple of days about bringing Rob's comments over from his site. It feels wrong, yet he has never said not to do it.  His take on
Tony and the rest is most informative.  I am still debating.

Karen - can you ask him - or better yet, invite him over and give him my phone number too?

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: Hussy!!!   I wish he didn't charge to be on his forum...I am not cheap...but I would never pay to be on a forum...unless it was SM of course ::MonkeyAngel::
::MonkeyTease::   Sunny - your just mad cause I called first on ROB! LOL  My number is...............


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 06, 2009, 01:47:12 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Interesting. I have heard that quote before. It's in a movie I think. Okay point well taken about the metaphor. However, I really believe that everybody here (or a huge majority) paint the Anthony's to be rotten horrible people. They cant wait to "cast another stone". Again I don not agree with what they have done or siad about numerous things but do you think you could be rational in those shoes?
(I don't trust Tony, I want to know what his agenda really is, and it isn't in my opinion justice for Caylee, I see dollar signs.)

Wait, did he see Desi metaphor already????????? 
Tony - if you are reading:  It's called spell check. Look into it.  Seriously, I am not buying it is him.

It really is Tony. I have debated the last couple of days about bringing Rob's comments over from his site. It feels wrong, yet he has never said not to do it.  His take on
Tony and the rest is most informative.  I am still debating.
I believe it is Tony also, that would be interesting to read about Rob's comments.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 06, 2009, 01:48:03 PM
Just jumping in and might have not seen this when I skimmed the pages to get caught up, but didn't LE also suggest it was an accident in the beginning? Or am I totally off on that.  ::MonkeyConfused::
You are not off, NRCG!  They did.  It could have been a way to offer an easy "out" for Casey so she would confess, and thereby help them locate Caylee's remains.  LE tactic perhaps.  Or maybe they really were fielding the possibility that it could have been an accident at that early stage in the investigation.

Then chloroform came into the picture...

And then one day a meter reader needed to relieve himself... and the rest is history.  When Caylee's remains were found, well... it's not a very likely possibility that the duct tape "accidentally" got plastered all over Caylee's lower face...  But you are right, in the beginning, LE DID indeed (in witness interviews and IIRC in media reports?) proffer the theory that Casey could be covering up an accidental death... and yet Cindy always said NO WAY -- Casey would come straight to us if Caylee so much as skinned her knee, blah blah blah...

Thank-you. I'm going to write this and I don't want people to be upset with me, but it is really bugging me. I know a lot of people think this was a premeditated murder, and maybe it was, I don't know. But for some reason after listening to some of the things that Tracy especially was saying about Casey, and that she has no grip on reality. Is there any chance that Caylee died accidently in the pool, Casey then set this all up, duct tape, and all these outlandish stories, could she have snapped when it happened, was she afraid for Cindy especially to find out? 99% of us when there is a tragic accident would do the proper thing, but if she has no grasp on reality.....     Just a thought, and most likely a bad thought.

nrcg....this has also run through my mind on MANY occasions. In fact it was my first theory. It is so difficult for me to grasp actually killing a child on purpose.  Although I didn't think she snapped. I did think she was scared chitless.. and reacted like she had always done...started covering for herself by lying.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 06, 2009, 01:50:11 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Where is all the really good juicy stuff at? This case has way too many threads to really get to. I try but it's tough. If there is anything good please let me know.                                 ( Now why is this Tony? Who are you running to with the juicy stuff? I don't trust any of them, they all have an agenda and it all involves making money. This was from WS)

The reason I question whether this really is Tony is I have noticed in the last year +  that a lot of people from Orlando leaving that dangling participle 'at' at the end of their sentences.  Could this really be someone from Orlando pretending to be Tony ?
Gee, Ono, where'd you get that idea 'at'?  ::MonkeyCool::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyCheer2:: LMAO ::MonkeyCheer2::

Ono - you would think that after the hanging chad's the people in Florida would have their dangling participle down! LOL  Wonder if Tony is a person in Florida.  I am still not totally buying he is the real Tony - afterall, they check out everyone over there (why you can't have a yahoo or hotmail addy) and they had a little internal problem recently.  So............

BTW - MikeNC - thank you for being our new pool man - we lost a member whose hubby used to give us the 411!

I'm aware of that, some of her pool info was a little off, but since I never believed a word she said I didn't want to get into it with her. 

Giggle, giggle - you caught me having fun with myself again!  BTW - ME EITHER.  Gotta run, need to meet my driver to take me to the design studio! 



Thanks for the laugh!  I'll check in with you monkeys later - keep up the good fight.

Almost forgot - George turned another year older but he still has no balls!!! 

Later NCMike!!   I am outta here too for a while!! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: karenmamo on September 06, 2009, 01:50:40 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Interesting. I have heard that quote before. It's in a movie I think. Okay point well taken about the metaphor. However, I really believe that everybody here (or a huge majority) paint the Anthony's to be rotten horrible people. They cant wait to "cast another stone". Again I don not agree with what they have done or siad about numerous things but do you think you could be rational in those shoes?
(I don't trust Tony, I want to know what his agenda really is, and it isn't in my opinion justice for Caylee, I see dollar signs.)

Wait, did he see Desi metaphor already????????? 
Tony - if you are reading:  It's called spell check. Look into it.  Seriously, I am not buying it is him.

It really is Tony. I have debated the last couple of days about bringing Rob's comments over from his site. It feels wrong, yet he has never said not to do it.  His take on
Tony and the rest is most informative.  I am still debating.



Please do...I would like to know what he thinks.............especially about Tony. You must be a member of his forum......so please ask him why he was letting Cindy hug and rub on him....uuuuuuggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh ::MonkeyDevil::

Rob is shrewd. He has a good grasp of the situation...and set up that site to avoid all the screwballs imposters and such that went on last year.  He does not drop in often, but is good to explain when he does come in.
I might bring his comments over here tonight. Kinda busy this afternoon.
Casey told Tracy the CO's (jailers) snuck her food while she was in-custody the first time. Casey has a way of getting what she wants sometimes...
One of the reasons we thought she would even pass a polygraph is that she truly believes in her own lies.
Yes it was the real Tony Padilla on WS. He was stating his opinion. Leonard and Tony don't see eye to eye on many topics but Tony was basically telling the truth. We all started out for the right reasons and we all had a role to play and a job to do. As we found out that it was basically a game, it became semi personal. As Leonard stated to Casey when she ordered him out: "We are gonna find that little girl, with or without your help!" We all carried out what we were there to do.

Make no mistake that Leonard loves the spotlight and being on TV as does the media love to put him on so I can't blame him for that. He will be the first one to tell you he is the self quoted "Media Whore" and when asked by the media why are you here in front of the camera, he will say "you" called me.

As far as the memorial, Tony was pissed and didn't think it was Leonard's place to put it on but, I was there and it was nice. Richard did a great job and it was sad that people were banned from the Cindy show in the first place. I heard that the reason I was banned was for having this forum. I saw the ban list, I was on it, along with a caution because I was armed. So it was a nice service for us and to help with closure for those that were not allowed to attend the Cindy service.

As far as the kind words of the Athony's by Tony, as far as his contact with them, they were nice to him.

Ok, how to explain this.....the Padilla's are an interesting group of people, Leonard has a brother (Greg), who is in the bail bond business, office directly across the street from Leonard's and they can't stand each other and don't even talk. All I can say is that Tony and Leonard get in disagreements all the time and they are defiantly two completely different types of personalities.

Rob on Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:03 pm

One more thing.....the TV / Media bug is a strange thing and one that effects people in different ways. Leonard has always loved the camera and the camera loves his personality. I must say it is not "this Case" that created Leonard, as I have said before Leonard has been in the spotlight or on TV for years. It is because this case has fascinated so many people nationally that has brought him into national spotlight as one of the big "Players". Some just stay out of the lime light, Tracy for example doesn't like it and does not want to be in front of a camera. The funny part is that most people can't help it, it effects them rather they like it or not. When you watch reality TV if you look at how people start a show and then as the show progresses it goes to their head and they change (their appearance, their attitude, everything about them) and it is hard not to. Now I am not saying Leonard has changed even in our shows, do you really think Leonard leaves his desk and goes to an apprehension, not anymore (unless there is gonna be a camera there...lol.) But, that is OK and we all try not to let it change us...

Give you an example when the statements came out and part of why you see Tony upset. You now find that Leonard's total time around Casey was about the length of the initial ride home, inside the house for a brief moment and about 5 seconds on the couch before she told him to leave. He has been living in the media on what Tracy and I have told him but, that's OK. Tony just tries to set the record straight. Understand that when it becomes to being a witness, we have to be careful as to what we put out their.

Side note: talking about putting your own personality in check... I had to catch myself saying "hey what about me" when our three statements came out and the headlines were about Leonard and Tracy. There goes that media bug....hahaha
OK--ther is a little to chew on till I can return.
karen


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 06, 2009, 01:55:10 PM
Just jumping in and might have not seen this when I skimmed the pages to get caught up, but didn't LE also suggest it was an accident in the beginning? Or am I totally off on that.  ::MonkeyConfused::
You are not off, NRCG!  They did.  It could have been a way to offer an easy "out" for Casey so she would confess, and thereby help them locate Caylee's remains.  LE tactic perhaps.  Or maybe they really were fielding the possibility that it could have been an accident at that early stage in the investigation.

Then chloroform came into the picture...

And then one day a meter reader needed to relieve himself... and the rest is history.  When Caylee's remains were found, well... it's not a very likely possibility that the duct tape "accidentally" got plastered all over Caylee's lower face...  But you are right, in the beginning, LE DID indeed (in witness interviews and IIRC in media reports?) proffer the theory that Casey could be covering up an accidental death... and yet Cindy always said NO WAY -- Casey would come straight to us if Caylee so much as skinned her knee, blah blah blah...

Thank-you. I'm going to write this and I don't want people to be upset with me, but it is really bugging me. I know a lot of people think this was a premeditated murder, and maybe it was, I don't know. But for some reason after listening to some of the things that Tracy especially was saying about Casey, and that she has no grip on reality. Is there any chance that Caylee died accidently in the pool, Casey then set this all up, duct tape, and all these outlandish stories, could she have snapped when it happened, was she afraid for Cindy especially to find out? 99% of us when there is a tragic accident would do the proper thing, but if she has no grasp on reality.....     Just a thought, and most likely a bad thought.

Possibly NoRose ... I have wondered that myself over these many months.  There really is no telling, imo, as the Anthony family doesn't seem to have any qualms about where their immortal souls will spend Eternity or they wouldn't be addicted to lying.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 06, 2009, 02:10:11 PM
Premeditated murder can happen in an instant. It doesn't have to take massive amounts of time/planning. Often it does, but it doesn't have to. She lives 10 minutes at a time. I doubt she would plan such an extravagant scheme. She may claim to be an event planner :roll: , but IMO...no way.

Same with if it were an accident. I doubt she could/would plan out such an extravagant scheme.

Casey will never confess to either.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 02:17:49 PM
Had to step away and got sidetracked for a bit, so I will be catching up on the last couple of pages... but just wanted to say to karen:

Thank you very much for posting those comments from Rob's site.  He comes across as well-balanced and rational, not to mention utterly truthful, IMO.  He explains the dynamics well, and again, really appreciate you posting this here.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 06, 2009, 02:19:46 PM
Premeditated murder can happen in an instant. It doesn't have to take massive amounts of time/planning. Often it does, but it doesn't have to. She lives 10 minutes at a time. I doubt she would plan such an extravagant scheme. She may claim to be an event planner :roll: , but IMO...no way.

Same with if it were an accident. I doubt she could/would plan out such an extravagant scheme.

Casey will never confess to either.


ROFL and totally agree.  If Caylee spoke up in that fight and revealed something - in that instant, casey could have decided to silence her forever.  (IMHO the significance of the duct tape as either weapon or symbolism.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 06, 2009, 02:21:15 PM
Had to step away and got sidetracked for a bit, so I will be catching up on the last couple of pages... but just wanted to say to karen:

Thank you very much for posting those comments from Rob's site.  He comes across as well-balanced and rational, not to mention utterly truthful, IMO.  He explains the dynamics well, and again, really appreciate you posting this here.



Yes, agree.  Karen you are swaying me - look forward to what else you have from him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 06, 2009, 02:27:14 PM
Just jumping in and might have not seen this when I skimmed the pages to get caught up, but didn't LE also suggest it was an accident in the beginning? Or am I totally off on that.  ::MonkeyConfused::
You are not off, NRCG!  They did.  It could have been a way to offer an easy "out" for Casey so she would confess, and thereby help them locate Caylee's remains.  LE tactic perhaps.  Or maybe they really were fielding the possibility that it could have been an accident at that early stage in the investigation.

Then chloroform came into the picture...

And then one day a meter reader needed to relieve himself... and the rest is history.  When Caylee's remains were found, well... it's not a very likely possibility that the duct tape "accidentally" got plastered all over Caylee's lower face...  But you are right, in the beginning, LE DID indeed (in witness interviews and IIRC in media reports?) proffer the theory that Casey could be covering up an accidental death... and yet Cindy always said NO WAY -- Casey would come straight to us if Caylee so much as skinned her knee, blah blah blah...

Thank-you. I'm going to write this and I don't want people to be upset with me, but it is really bugging me. I know a lot of people think this was a premeditated murder, and maybe it was, I don't know. But for some reason after listening to some of the things that Tracy especially was saying about Casey, and that she has no grip on reality. Is there any chance that Caylee died accidently in the pool, Casey then set this all up, duct tape, and all these outlandish stories, could she have snapped when it happened, was she afraid for Cindy especially to find out? 99% of us when there is a tragic accident would do the proper thing, but if she has no grasp on reality.....     Just a thought, and most likely a bad thought.

No Rose..I thought about that too.

But then why didn't she do that when the first Capitol lawyer came on board?  I thought he was about to set up a very similar scenario where Caylee accidentally drown, due to Casey being on the phone and losing track off her.   Casey tries to call everyone..no one answers..Casey snaps and is left to deal with it herself....and she is more mentally ill then we know..so therefore this only an accident covered up because she had no where to turn. 

The worst case would be child endangerment and maybe 3rd degree manslaughter.  That was just how I thought they might reasonably try to direct the action..that way she would have had  some sympathy from the jurors..and a much lesser sentence.   But that didn't fly with Baez or Casey..no way..she says she is innocent of any of this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 06, 2009, 02:40:20 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Interesting. I have heard that quote before. It's in a movie I think. Okay point well taken about the metaphor. However, I really believe that everybody here (or a huge majority) paint the Anthony's to be rotten horrible people. They cant wait to "cast another stone". Again I don not agree with what they have done or siad about numerous things but do you think you could be rational in those shoes?
(I don't trust Tony, I want to know what his agenda really is, and it isn't in my opinion justice for Caylee, I see dollar signs.)

nrcg....I don't trust him either. First of all why in the hell is he talking so bad about LP? Even if the thinks it, what is the point of putting it on a forum on the Internet.? I honestly think he is JEALOUS!!! But I also think he has another motive.....I just don't know what that motive is.  Why didn't the A's do like other families and get a spokesperson for the family....A trusted friend, minister or relative?? Why didn't they keep their mouths shut? Why didn't they look for Caylee?  I don't know if I could be rational, but I do know I wouldn't try to alienate the whole frigging world....especially people like Tim and TES and Mark Nejame.  Both of these people offered help to them.....no charge....but neither would allow the A's to run the show.

Another motive?  Aren't they all just airing their dirty linen in public?  He has stated several times he is thinking about writing a book......
If his efforts on WS are an example of his talents so far, I would say this.
Don't quit your day job Tony.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 06, 2009, 02:46:24 PM
Just jumping in and might have not seen this when I skimmed the pages to get caught up, but didn't LE also suggest it was an accident in the beginning? Or am I totally off on that.  ::MonkeyConfused::
You are not off, NRCG!  They did.  It could have been a way to offer an easy "out" for Casey so she would confess, and thereby help them locate Caylee's remains.  LE tactic perhaps.  Or maybe they really were fielding the possibility that it could have been an accident at that early stage in the investigation.

Then chloroform came into the picture...

And then one day a meter reader needed to relieve himself... and the rest is history.  When Caylee's remains were found, well... it's not a very likely possibility that the duct tape "accidentally" got plastered all over Caylee's lower face...  But you are right, in the beginning, LE DID indeed (in witness interviews and IIRC in media reports?) proffer the theory that Casey could be covering up an accidental death... and yet Cindy always said NO WAY -- Casey would come straight to us if Caylee so much as skinned her knee, blah blah blah...

Thank-you. I'm going to write this and I don't want people to be upset with me, but it is really bugging me. I know a lot of people think this was a premeditated murder, and maybe it was, I don't know. But for some reason after listening to some of the things that Tracy especially was saying about Casey, and that she has no grip on reality. Is there any chance that Caylee died accidently in the pool, Casey then set this all up, duct tape, and all these outlandish stories, could she have snapped when it happened, was she afraid for Cindy especially to find out? 99% of us when there is a tragic accident would do the proper thing, but if she has no grasp on reality.....     Just a thought, and most likely a bad thought.

No Rose..I thought about that too.

But then why didn't she do that when the first Capitol lawyer came on board?  I thought he was about to set up a very similar scenario where Caylee accidentally drown, due to Casey being on the phone and losing track off her.   Casey tries to call everyone..no one answers..Casey snaps and is left to deal with it herself....and she is more mentally ill then we know..so therefore this only an accident covered up because she had no where to turn. 

The worst case would be child endangerment and maybe 3rd degree manslaughter.  That was just how I thought they might reasonably try to direct the action..that way she would have had  some sympathy from the jurors..and a much lesser sentence.   But that didn't fly with Baez or Casey..no way..she says she is innocent of any of this.

Some of that is plausible , but don't you think it's a tad too convenient that the child would have met with some terrible accident right at the exact time that Casey desperately wanted to be single with no attachments? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 06, 2009, 03:00:41 PM
Just jumping in and might have not seen this when I skimmed the pages to get caught up, but didn't LE also suggest it was an accident in the beginning? Or am I totally off on that.  ::MonkeyConfused::
You are not off, NRCG!  They did.  It could have been a way to offer an easy "out" for Casey so she would confess, and thereby help them locate Caylee's remains.  LE tactic perhaps.  Or maybe they really were fielding the possibility that it could have been an accident at that early stage in the investigation.

Then chloroform came into the picture...

And then one day a meter reader needed to relieve himself... and the rest is history.  When Caylee's remains were found, well... it's not a very likely possibility that the duct tape "accidentally" got plastered all over Caylee's lower face...  But you are right, in the beginning, LE DID indeed (in witness interviews and IIRC in media reports?) proffer the theory that Casey could be covering up an accidental death... and yet Cindy always said NO WAY -- Casey would come straight to us if Caylee so much as skinned her knee, blah blah blah...

Thank-you. I'm going to write this and I don't want people to be upset with me, but it is really bugging me. I know a lot of people think this was a premeditated murder, and maybe it was, I don't know. But for some reason after listening to some of the things that Tracy especially was saying about Casey, and that she has no grip on reality. Is there any chance that Caylee died accidently in the pool, Casey then set this all up, duct tape, and all these outlandish stories, could she have snapped when it happened, was she afraid for Cindy especially to find out? 99% of us when there is a tragic accident would do the proper thing, but if she has no grasp on reality.....     Just a thought, and most likely a bad thought.

No Rose..I thought about that too.

But then why didn't she do that when the first Capitol lawyer came on board?  I thought he was about to set up a very similar scenario where Caylee accidentally drown, due to Casey being on the phone and losing track off her.   Casey tries to call everyone..no one answers..Casey snaps and is left to deal with it herself....and she is more mentally ill then we know..so therefore this only an accident covered up because she had no where to turn. 

The worst case would be child endangerment and maybe 3rd degree manslaughter.  That was just how I thought they might reasonably try to direct the action..that way she would have had  some sympathy from the jurors..and a much lesser sentence.   But that didn't fly with Baez or Casey..no way..she says she is innocent of any of this.

Some of that is plausible , but don't you think it's a tad too convenient that the child would have met with some terrible accident right at the exact time that Casey desperately wanted to be single with no attachments? 

I think Casey murdered Caylee intentionally. 

I don't believe it was an accident..but I thought the best chance the defense had was to go with that story.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 03:03:27 PM
Thank-you. I'm going to write this and I don't want people to be upset with me, but it is really bugging me. I know a lot of people think this was a premeditated murder, and maybe it was, I don't know. But for some reason after listening to some of the things that Tracy especially was saying about Casey, and that she has no grip on reality. Is there any chance that Caylee died accidently in the pool, Casey then set this all up, duct tape, and all these outlandish stories, could she have snapped when it happened, was she afraid for Cindy especially to find out? 99% of us when there is a tragic accident would do the proper thing, but if she has no grasp on reality.....     Just a thought, and most likely a bad thought.
NRCG, I certainly am not upset with you and doubt that most other monks would be.  Many Monkeys have most likely "gone there" at one time or another.. this new info is really making us all ponder what really happened, too.

I'm thinking this was Lenamon's and Walsh's strategy early on... it could be believable perhaps.  It's just that she has a history of stealing, lying.. maybe more history than we know about to date! (juvi sealed records?)  She does come across as perfectly capable of premeditated murder...

What if it were not exactly an accident, but rather an unintentional death in conjunction with a felony, like leaving Caylee unattended, drugging or chloroforming Caylee, or shoving, shaking, or even beating her (!) or something like that?  Then she is still considered a murderer, whether she intended to kill Caylee or not.

In any event, you would think someone would have caved by now if it were unintentional!  She is facing the death penalty, and the family has endured so much... if it were in fact actually an accident to begin with, it's just so hard to imagine her -- or them -- keeping up this deadly charade for so long, and causing countless people tremendous amounts of expense, wasted time, embarrassment, anguish, inconvenience,etc.

But Casey and the family are certainly not normal.  They are both a couple of real "head cases," and we can't count on their behavior ever falling within any kind of norm... so who knows??  I thought your post was a good one.  Very thoughtftul and thought-provoking.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 06, 2009, 03:06:02 PM
Another thing that struck me in the interviews of Rob, LP and Tracy..their storys are all basically the same because they are not lying.  They are giving their frank observations of being with the A's during that time.
Rob even thought Cindy might ask him to get in the car and take her to track down leads..but she didn't.  No one in that house was concerned at all about looking for Caylee.  We knew that..but it was nice to see that people who are used to tracking leads and finding people were all surprised that no one seemed interested in finding Caylee.   Instead he was doing grocery runs for them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 03:06:49 PM
<self-snip>But Casey and the family are certainly not normal.  They are both a couple all a bunch of real "head cases," and we can't count on their behavior ever falling within any kind of norm... so who knows??  I thought your post was a good one.  Very thoughtftul thoughtful and thought-provoking.
(oops, self-edit above, from previous post)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 03:13:48 PM
<respectfully snipped by Desi>
1.  Lee seemed to running the show in the A family as far as their story's and what was done.  It was Lee who came in and said no polygraphs..when all of them had said they would take one....Tracy says that even Casey said she would through Baez.  Lee is telling his mother how to act and what to do when Casey is being rearrested.  Take about the screwy leading the screwy.
  ::MonkeyHaHa:: Great line, DD.  Tracy called him "the director" of the family!  Wow, if Lee is running the show, they can't avoid being in big trouble.  We've seen how he "directs" the destruction of an offending protestor's sign, a top-secret private-eye suspect interrogation (Tony L), and a nationally televised speech in memory of his niece.  And then there are those wacky knee socks...

"The screwy leading the screwy"

... IMO that's in the running for the motto on the Anthony family crest!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 03:16:35 PM
IIRC when LE asked the psychic to provide her phone records she didn't, said she couldn't at that time they were on her father's bill.  Of course all LE needed was her phone number to check if it showed up on Doms phone records. 

What I believe is that Lee knew approximately where the body was from clues and discussions with Casey.  I believe that Lee is the person on the pone with Dom while he is scouring the woods and the abandoned house.  Cindy and George were at the meet and greet that morning.

A couple of things that struck me about Tracy's interview.

1.  Lee seemed to running the show in the A family as far as their story's and what was done.  It was Lee who came in and said no polygraphs..when all of them had said they would take one....Tracy says that even Casey said she would through Baez.  Lee is telling his mother how to act and what to do when Casey is being rearrested.  Take about the screwy leading the screwy.

2.  Tracy asked for immunity and had a lawyer there during her LE interview.  Why?
I firmly believe, just my opinion, that LP and Rob had her wired during the entire time she was in the house.  When they got there and realized they could not have their guns with them, they could not use the safe house they had planned on using, they went to plan B.  Plan be being them in the motor home out front with guns, listening to everything going on in the house via a wire Tracey is wearing.  I do not believe that LP would have allowed Tracey alone in the house with just a cellphone to communicate.  I do believe that they did communicate vis the cell and text messaging.  But I also believe that they could hear what was going on in there.   Remember at one point Tracy gets a text from rob asking if she is alright  when a lot of hubbub was going on in the house.

Tracy would need immunity for wiretapping without the person's consent.  Also  I don't think that testimony could be used.  However, everything she herself heard and communicated to LP and Rob could be used as testimony, via text or cellphone could be used.  Just my opinion of why she may have felt she needed immunity..



Good Afternoon, DD. my belief, my deduction and my thinking about who was on the phone with Dom Casey is the same as yours because of the things you picked up about it and the lack of phone records on the part of the psychic and all the silliness that went along with it. It also seemed that the story about the Virginia psychic was quickly dropped after all of that came out. It was clear, imo, that he was talking to someone directing who knew where Caylee's remains were AT.... ::MonkeyDevil:: I grew up in Alabama, but I lived in Florida for a time, so I have good reason to dangle my participle.

It has been some interesting comments made on the case again today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 06, 2009, 03:24:57 PM
Had to step away and got sidetracked for a bit, so I will be catching up on the last couple of pages... but just wanted to say to karen:

Thank you very much for posting those comments from Rob's site.  He comes across as well-balanced and rational, not to mention utterly truthful, IMO.  He explains the dynamics well, and again, really appreciate you posting this here.


I want to thank you also Karen, Rob seems like a nice guy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 06, 2009, 03:32:48 PM
Thanks to all that answered, we may never know what exactly happened to Caylee  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: numbersgirl on September 06, 2009, 03:33:24 PM
Just jumping in and might have not seen this when I skimmed the pages to get caught up, but didn't LE also suggest it was an accident in the beginning? Or am I totally off on that.  ::MonkeyConfused::
You are not off, NRCG!  They did.  It could have been a way to offer an easy "out" for Casey so she would confess, and thereby help them locate Caylee's remains.  LE tactic perhaps.  Or maybe they really were fielding the possibility that it could have been an accident at that early stage in the investigation.

Then chloroform came into the picture...

And then one day a meter reader needed to relieve himself... and the rest is history.  When Caylee's remains were found, well... it's not a very likely possibility that the duct tape "accidentally" got plastered all over Caylee's lower face...  But you are right, in the beginning, LE DID indeed (in witness interviews and IIRC in media reports?) proffer the theory that Casey could be covering up an accidental death... and yet Cindy always said NO WAY -- Casey would come straight to us if Caylee so much as skinned her knee, blah blah blah...

Thank-you. I'm going to write this and I don't want people to be upset with me, but it is really bugging me. I know a lot of people think this was a premeditated murder, and maybe it was, I don't know. But for some reason after listening to some of the things that Tracy especially was saying about Casey, and that she has no grip on reality. Is there any chance that Caylee died accidently in the pool, Casey then set this all up, duct tape, and all these outlandish stories, could she have snapped when it happened, was she afraid for Cindy especially to find out? 99% of us when there is a tragic accident would do the proper thing, but if she has no grasp on reality.....     Just a thought, and most likely a bad thought.


Hi Monks!  NoRose, I tend to agree with you.  I believe LP when he said something to the effect that "KC lives her life 5 minutes at a time".  I think Caylee's death could have been a result of negligence and/or rage.  Maybe KC had contemplated what her life would have been like with the baby, but I'm not convinced killing Caylee was the end result of a carefully plotted scheme.  IMO, KC is too impulsive.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 03:35:11 PM
Agggg, getting confused here - is this a fact or your opinion?  Am I missing something?  Did the phone records prove he was lying?  Someone link me - I hate it when I miss something.

It is my OPINION that he was led there, but I sure want to have something to back it up, so will a nice monkey linkey me please!
Hi ANJM, I don't think any records have ever come out proving he was lying, but I could be wrong. I bet they will have records of a call to that physic woman tho, just because they knew their records may be looked at. That's my opinion anyway. And I agree with you that he was led there!  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Good Morning Monks old and new!!  I don't think he was on the phone with a physic at that time because I am sure D Casey never thought Hoover would rat him out. ::MonkeyWink::  I do agree that he was being led there but not by anyone other than someone connected to the case. And to the best of my knowledge D. Casey's phone records have not been released. ::MonkeyNoNo::
JMO, but I don't think we'll find a link on this; I agree, don't think D.Casey's phone records are available yet for our perusal. Though I'm hoping they are in the hands of the State by now.

As far as making assumptions about who was talking to Dominic during that shameful secret search, although it is a truly far-fetched idea, it could very well be that there was some conspiratorial hanky-panky going on through Ginette Lucas.  Not likely, I know.  But I mean, even though she did dodge so transparently on TV when confronted about her phone records, surely Dominic is not stupid enough to think HIS phone records won't be located and examined!  Why would he tell such an easily disproven lie?  He's a P.I. for pete's sake!

So, (again, admittedly far-fetched --) what if that teddy bear of Caylee's which Cindy supposedly sent to GL actually contained more secret information than just "vibes" for her to "read?"  Hmm?  Just picture it:  Dominic finds her; he fools Hoover into thinking it was a spontaneous psychic reading that led to the discovery, GL becomes famous.... that is, IF they actually would have called 911 and not Jose Baez with the news.

Crazy scenario, yes.  But then again, many unfolding developments in this case have been hard to wrap our brains around.  JMO.  What I am trying to say is that we really cannot know who was on the other end of the line when Dominic was poking around on Suburban Drive last November.

Er, well, unless I'm wrong --> and we DO actually know who it was -- and I just didn't KNOW that we knew!  In which case I apologize to ANJ and other confused Monkeys for creating even more confusion by stating MY OWN opinion!!
 ::MonkeyConfused::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

(I'm kidding here, but I'd like to add that it really can cloud the real picture, when posters state an opinion and it is interpreted by other posters as a known fact in the case... )


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 06, 2009, 03:40:56 PM
Another thing that struck me in the interviews of Rob, LP and Tracy..their storys are all basically the same because they are not lying.  They are giving their frank observations of being with the A's during that time.
Rob even thought Cindy might ask him to get in the car and take her to track down leads..but she didn't.  No one in that house was concerned at all about looking for Caylee.  We knew that..but it was nice to see that people who are used to tracking leads and finding people were all surprised that no one seemed interested in finding Caylee.   Instead he was doing grocery runs for them.


I agree Gypsy DD.  The combination of their interviews spoke loud and clear.

Also, and sorry if this is off topic, I want to thank you for all your very insightful observations and posts.  I was so far behind, I didn't take the time to reply to them individually.  (I also enjoy reading your posts on the Christine Sheddy thread).

 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 03:44:20 PM
Thank-you. I'm going to write this and I don't want people to be upset with me, but it is really bugging me. I know a lot of people think this was a premeditated murder, and maybe it was, I don't know. But for some reason after listening to some of the things that Tracy especially was saying about Casey, and that she has no grip on reality. Is there any chance that Caylee died accidently in the pool, Casey then set this all up, duct tape, and all these outlandish stories, could she have snapped when it happened, was she afraid for Cindy especially to find out? 99% of us when there is a tragic accident would do the proper thing, but if she has no grasp on reality.....     Just a thought, and most likely a bad thought.

At the very beginning, I was really thinking it was an accident, and she was just afraid to come clean, but after being given an option, she would 'fess up and would tell. In fact, I was hoping it was an accident, and something that happened was totally unintentional.

At this point, I connot reconcile an accident, in any scenario. As far as being premeditated, IMO she thought off and on about this as pressures were building up. I don't think she conciously thought about it all the time, but when the stresses would build up, she would think about it a little more. I think whatever was the final overflow of rage is when she did it. As I have stated before, I think it was the fierce and possible physical artercation the night of June 15. All, of course, JMO.


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Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 03:44:20 PM
Another thing that struck me in the interviews of Rob, LP and Tracy..their storys are all basically the same because they are not lying.  They are giving their frank observations of being with the A's during that time.
Rob even thought Cindy might ask him to get in the car and take her to track down leads..but she didn't.  No one in that house was concerned at all about looking for Caylee.  We knew that..but it was nice to see that people who are used to tracking leads and finding people were all surprised that no one seemed interested in finding Caylee.   Instead he was doing grocery runs for them.
What an insightful point, DD

And don't forget the midnight runs to Wendy's for the grieving young mother who was wasting away and losing weight, despite all the Olive Garden feasts and hot-wing feeding frenzies....
 ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

Seriously though, this really did stand out in their interviews, didn't it?  Along with how consistently their stories meshed -- in comparison with the way-out conflicting 'tales told by the idiots' (sorry), or rather the Anthony clan.  <--As you pointed out. 

Excellent post, IMO.  The truth doesn't change.  Betcha Tracy, Rob, and Leonard did not have to cart in a foot-tall stack of "notes" to their interviews with LE.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 06, 2009, 03:47:28 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-leonard-padilla-associate-capture-the-absurdity.html




"Inside the Anthony Household" -- it's like an episode of "The Twilight Zone."

The audio interviews released Friday provide a crucial look at Casey Anthony and her family. Those interviews confirm that the Anthonys are one strange clan -- what many observers have suspected for a long time.

In the interviews, bounty hunter Leonard Padilla and associate Tracy McLaughlin talked with investigators. Both Padilla and McLaughin sound baffled by their dealings with the Anthonys in summer 2008.

Television played snippets to dramatic and enlightening effect. WFTV-Channel 9's Jeff Deal said that Padilla described a family of built-up tensions and highlighted an argument between Anthony and her father, George.

"I saw more tears shed among my people that were there than her family," Padilla told investigators.

Casey Anthony is charged with the first-degree murder of her child, Caylee. The toddler's remains were found late last year.

WESH-Channel 2's Amanda Ober said McLaughlin painted "a somewhat bizarre picture of Casey" after spending a week with her a year ago. Anthony bristled when any conversation turned to Caylee, who was missing at the time. Casey wanted to be the center of attention.

"It was competition. She wanted the limelight," McLaughlin told investigators. "It was sad. You couldn't talk about anything else."

WESH also highlighted the argument between Casey and George. Tired of lies, George said he wanted the truth.

"Don't treat me like a scumbag cop," Casey replied. "Act like you're my father."

In that argument, George knew his daughter was lying, WKMG-Channel 6's Tony Pipitone said. Casey acted "like a little prima donna" in the argument, McLaughlin told the investigators.

In another strange tidbit, WESH's Ober noted that Casey wore eye makeup to flirt with one of Padilla's male employees. In what Anthony called "the sunglass game," she would lower her sunglasses and flirt via the rear-view mirror.

All very "Twilight Zone."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 03:50:37 PM
Another thing that struck me in the interviews of Rob, LP and Tracy..their storys are all basically the same because they are not lying.  They are giving their frank observations of being with the A's during that time.
Rob even thought Cindy might ask him to get in the car and take her to track down leads..but she didn't.  No one in that house was concerned at all about looking for Caylee.  We knew that..but it was nice to see that people who are used to tracking leads and finding people were all surprised that no one seemed interested in finding Caylee.   Instead he was doing grocery runs for them.
What an insightful point, DD

And don't forget the midnight runs to Wendy's for the grieving young mother who was wasting away and losing weight, despite all the Olive Garden feasts and hot-wing feeding frenzies....
 ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

Seriously though, this really did stand out in their interviews, didn't it?  Along with how consistently their stories meshed -- in comparison with the way-out conflicting 'tales told by the idiots' (sorry), or rather the Anthony clan.  <--As you pointed out. 

Excellent post, IMO.  The truth doesn't change.  Betcha Tracy, Rob, and Leonard did not have to cart in a foot-tall stack of "notes" to their interviews with LE.

Amen DESI. The truth is the truth and it doesn't change.  ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 06, 2009, 03:54:28 PM
<respectfully snipped by Desi>
1.  Lee seemed to running the show in the A family as far as their story's and what was done.  It was Lee who came in and said no polygraphs..when all of them had said they would take one....Tracy says that even Casey said she would through Baez.  Lee is telling his mother how to act and what to do when Casey is being rearrested.  Take about the screwy leading the screwy.
  ::MonkeyHaHa:: Great line, DD.  Tracy called him "the director" of the family!  Wow, if Lee is running the show, they can't avoid being in big trouble.  We've seen how he "directs" the destruction of an offending protestor's sign, a top-secret private-eye suspect interrogation (Tony L), and a nationally televised speech in memory of his niece.  And then there are those wacky knee socks...

"The screwy leading the screwy"

... IMO that's in the running for the motto on the Anthony family crest!

Wait - you forgot one - The altercation with the dog bowl!!!!!!!!!!

(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/LifeCoachOnTheCouch/meanleedumpdogswater.jpg)

Back in a bit - need to run errands!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 06, 2009, 03:55:33 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-leonard-padilla-associate-capture-the-absurdity.html




"Inside the Anthony Household" -- it's like an episode of "The Twilight Zone."


WESH also highlighted the argument between Casey and George. Tired of lies, George said he wanted the truth.

"Don't treat me like a scumbag cop," Casey replied. "Act like you're my father."


Thanks Cece for posting this link.

Does anyone know what day this fight took place off hand? Was it towards the end or the beginning of her being out of jail? TIA JSM



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 06, 2009, 03:56:08 PM
Another thing that struck me in the interviews of Rob, LP and Tracy..their storys are all basically the same because they are not lying.  They are giving their frank observations of being with the A's during that time.
Rob even thought Cindy might ask him to get in the car and take her to track down leads..but she didn't.  No one in that house was concerned at all about looking for Caylee.  We knew that..but it was nice to see that people who are used to tracking leads and finding people were all surprised that no one seemed interested in finding Caylee.   Instead he was doing grocery runs for them.


I agree Gypsy DD.  The combination of their interviews spoke loud and clear.

Also, and sorry if this is off topic, I want to thank you for all your very insightful observations and posts.  I was so far behind, I didn't take the time to reply to them individually.  (I also enjoy reading your posts on the Christine Sheddy thread).

 ::MonkeyAngel::

Why thank you CECE..I love reading your posts and everyone else's posts here at SM.  This is such a nice group, very articulate and very informative.... not the in-fighting you see on other boards.  The discussions here are so full of ideas and different ways of looking at things that I think we all keep each other questing for the truth in Caylee's case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 04:01:28 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-leonard-padilla-associate-capture-the-absurdity.html
"Inside the Anthony Household" -- it's like an episode of "The Twilight Zone."
WESH also highlighted the argument between Casey and George. Tired of lies, George said he wanted the truth.
"Don't treat me like a scumbag cop," Casey replied. "Act like you're my father."

Thanks Cece for posting this link.

Does anyone know what day this fight took place off hand? Was it towards the end or the beginning of her being out of jail? TIA JSM
Hi JSM, I believe Tracy said the morning after Casey was released, Tracy was awakened by the sounds of GA and KC yelling.  That would have been Aug. 22.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 06, 2009, 04:03:36 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-leonard-padilla-associate-capture-the-absurdity.html
"Inside the Anthony Household" -- it's like an episode of "The Twilight Zone."
WESH also highlighted the argument between Casey and George. Tired of lies, George said he wanted the truth.
"Don't treat me like a scumbag cop," Casey replied. "Act like you're my father."

Thanks Cece for posting this link.

Does anyone know what day this fight took place off hand? Was it towards the end or the beginning of her being out of jail? TIA JSM
Hi JSM, I believe Tracy said the morning after Casey was released, Tracy was awakened by the sounds of GA and KC yelling.  That would have been Aug. 22.
Thank you. I wasn't sure if it was the beginning or towards the end.

 ::MonkeyBike:: Back to lurking.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 04:03:44 PM
Another thing that struck me in the interviews of Rob, LP and Tracy..their storys are all basically the same because they are not lying.  They are giving their frank observations of being with the A's during that time.
Rob even thought Cindy might ask him to get in the car and take her to track down leads..but she didn't.  No one in that house was concerned at all about looking for Caylee.  We knew that..but it was nice to see that people who are used to tracking leads and finding people were all surprised that no one seemed interested in finding Caylee.   Instead he was doing grocery runs for them.
What an insightful point, DD

And don't forget the midnight runs to Wendy's for the grieving young mother who was wasting away and losing weight, despite all the Olive Garden feasts and hot-wing feeding frenzies....
 ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

Seriously though, this really did stand out in their interviews, didn't it?  Along with how consistently their stories meshed -- in comparison with the way-out conflicting 'tales told by the idiots' (sorry), or rather the Anthony clan.  <--As you pointed out. 

Excellent post, IMO.  The truth doesn't change.  Betcha Tracy, Rob, and Leonard did not have to cart in a foot-tall stack of "notes" to their interviews with LE.

Amen DESI. The truth is the truth and it doesn't change. IN MY OPINION ::MonkeyAngel::


SELF EDIT.

I will try to do better from now on with the JMO's and IMO's.  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 04:10:31 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-leonard-padilla-associate-capture-the-absurdity.html
"Inside the Anthony Household" -- it's like an episode of "The Twilight Zone."

The audio interviews released Friday provide a crucial look at Casey Anthony and her family. Those interviews confirm that the Anthonys are one strange clan -- what many observers have suspected for a long time.

In the interviews, bounty hunter Leonard Padilla and associate Tracy McLaughlin talked with investigators. Both Padilla and McLaughin sound baffled by their dealings with the Anthonys in summer 2008.
<snipped by Desi>
cece, thanks for this link!  The Twilight Zone has got nuthin' on Hopespring Drive!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 06, 2009, 04:12:21 PM
What do you all think about in Tracy's interview where she said she was told the babydaddy was Eric Baker, not Jesus Ortiz?  That Casey said Caylee was her little Italian?  Baker isn't an Italian name.  I think Cindy was the one that named Eric Baker..and said he was in another relationship and expecting another child and they didn't want to disrupt the relationship he was currently in....?  That doesn't ring true either..the A's not wanting to disrupt anything..Lord ..I thought disrupt was also part of the family motto.  You know "destroy, disrupt, deny"

 Have we ever heard his name mentioned before with this case?  Has anyone found any info on him or his family?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 04:15:39 PM
CC, thank you for post Hal's blog.  ::MonkeyAngel::

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-leonard-padilla-associate-capture-the-absurdity.html


I think the strangness of the Anthony household was a shocking out of body moment for a lot of people, when listening to those audios on Friday. It happened that I was listening to them on my bed, and the dresser is right across the room in front of me. I caught myself in the mirror that day several times with a drop-jawed look on my face.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 06, 2009, 04:17:06 PM
Another thing that struck me in the interviews of Rob, LP and Tracy..their storys are all basically the same because they are not lying.  They are giving their frank observations of being with the A's during that time.
Rob even thought Cindy might ask him to get in the car and take her to track down leads..but she didn't.  No one in that house was concerned at all about looking for Caylee.  We knew that..but it was nice to see that people who are used to tracking leads and finding people were all surprised that no one seemed interested in finding Caylee.   Instead he was doing grocery runs for them.


I agree Gypsy DD.  The combination of their interviews spoke loud and clear.

Also, and sorry if this is off topic, I want to thank you for all your very insightful observations and posts.  I was so far behind, I didn't take the time to reply to them individually.  (I also enjoy reading your posts on the Christine Sheddy thread).

 ::MonkeyAngel::

Why thank you CECE..I love reading your posts and everyone else's posts here at SM.  This is such a nice group, very articulate and very informative.... not the in-fighting you see on other boards.  The discussions here are so full of ideas and different ways of looking at things that I think we all keep each other questing for the truth in Caylee's case.
Amen.  If you post an idea on that other board you will get sniped at unless it agrees with what that person is thinking. There are a few that completely dominate the board, and some self professed 'experts' although no one has the real inside information on what happened to Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 04:19:09 PM
Amen DESI. The truth is the truth and it doesn't change. IN MY OPINION ::MonkeyAngel::
SELF EDIT. I will try to do better from now on with the JMO's and IMO's.   ::MonkeyDevil::
::MonkeyEek::  Egads!  Fanny, have I created a monster?   ::MonkeyShocked::

I hope we never have to put an "opinion-only" disclaimer on "the truth being the truth"!!!   ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 06, 2009, 04:19:43 PM
What do you all think about in Tracy's interview where she said she was told the babydaddy was Eric Baker, not Jesus Ortiz?  That Casey said Caylee was her little Italian?  Baker isn't an Italian name.  I think Cindy was the one that named Eric Baker..and said he was in another relationship and expecting another child and they didn't want to disrupt the relationship he was currently in....?  That doesn't ring true either..the A's not wanting to disrupt anything..Lord ..I thought disrupt was also part of the family motto.  You know "destroy, disrupt, deny"

 Have we ever heard his name mentioned before with this case?  Has anyone found any info on him or his family?

Cindy has no clue who the father is.
Casey doesn't even know.   She just swallows Casey's B.S. about other relationships...
Rick Plesea ,Cindy's brother had to enlighten her as to her daughter's pregnancy for goodness sake.. at 7 months


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 04:22:43 PM
What do you all think about in Tracy's interview where she said she was told the babydaddy was Eric Baker, not Jesus Ortiz?  That Casey said Caylee was her little Italian?  Baker isn't an Italian name.  I think Cindy was the one that named Eric Baker..and said he was in another relationship and expecting another child and they didn't want to disrupt the relationship he was currently in....?  That doesn't ring true either..the A's not wanting to disrupt anything..Lord ..I thought disrupt was also part of the family motto.  You know "destroy, disrupt, deny"

 Have we ever heard his name mentioned before with this case?  Has anyone found any info on him or his family?

Actually we have. It was in this OCSO report and somewhere along the way there was more info about his death. I haven't fount that yet, but I will keep digging.

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/casey_anthony_computer_report.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 04:24:19 PM
Amen DESI. The truth is the truth and it doesn't change. IN MY OPINION ::MonkeyAngel::
SELF EDIT. I will try to do better from now on with the JMO's and IMO's.   ::MonkeyDevil::
::MonkeyEek::  Egads!  Fanny, have I created a monster?   ::MonkeyShocked::

I hope we never have to put an "opinion-only" disclaimer on "the truth being the truth"!!!   ::MonkeyWaa::  ::MonkeyWink::


No problem.  ::MonkeyDevil:: I will just be more careful in the future.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 06, 2009, 04:24:51 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-leonard-padilla-associate-capture-the-absurdity.html
"Inside the Anthony Household" -- it's like an episode of "The Twilight Zone."

The audio interviews released Friday provide a crucial look at Casey Anthony and her family. Those interviews confirm that the Anthonys are one strange clan -- what many observers have suspected for a long time.

In the interviews, bounty hunter Leonard Padilla and associate Tracy McLaughlin talked with investigators. Both Padilla and McLaughin sound baffled by their dealings with the Anthonys in summer 2008.
<snipped by Desi>
cece, thanks for this link!  The Twilight Zone has got nuthin' on Hopespring Drive!!!

You're welcome & I agree.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 04:24:54 PM
What do you all think about in Tracy's interview where she said she was told the babydaddy was Eric Baker, not Jesus Ortiz?  That Casey said Caylee was her little Italian?  Baker isn't an Italian name.  I think Cindy was the one that named Eric Baker..and said he was in another relationship and expecting another child and they didn't want to disrupt the relationship he was currently in....?  That doesn't ring true either..the A's not wanting to disrupt anything..Lord ..I thought disrupt was also part of the family motto.  You know "destroy, disrupt, deny"

 Have we ever heard his name mentioned before with this case?  Has anyone found any info on him or his family?
DD, my thought was that KC can be very misleading... Caylee could be her "little Italian" just because the A's claim to come from Italian stock... didn't have to refer to the baby-daddy.

IIRC Eric Baker is also the name that Cindy gave to LE, as you pointed out.  We did sleuth out an Eric Baker who died in a car crash out of state... he was pretty obviously not Caylee's father, IMO.  The discussions can be found here by searching SM.

I can't think of a single baby-daddy story from any of the A's (and there are so many stories) that sounds plausible...

So, you never heard of the famous crime family, the Bakerinos??   ::MonkeyCool::  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 06, 2009, 04:28:13 PM
What do you all think about in Tracy's interview where she said she was told the babydaddy was Eric Baker, not Jesus Ortiz?  That Casey said Caylee was her little Italian?  Baker isn't an Italian name.  I think Cindy was the one that named Eric Baker..and said he was in another relationship and expecting another child and they didn't want to disrupt the relationship he was currently in....?  That doesn't ring true either..the A's not wanting to disrupt anything..Lord ..I thought disrupt was also part of the family motto.  You know "destroy, disrupt, deny"

 Have we ever heard his name mentioned before with this case?  Has anyone found any info on him or his family?
DD, my thought was that KC can be very misleading... Caylee could be her "little Italian" just because the A's claim to come from Italian stock... didn't have to refer to the baby-daddy.

IIRC Eric Baker is also the name that Cindy gave to LE, as you pointed out.  We did sleuth out an Eric Baker who died in a car crash out of state... he was pretty obviously not Caylee's father, IMO.  The discussions can be found here by searching SM.

I can't think of a single baby-daddy story from any of the A's (and there are so many stories) that sounds plausible...

So, you never heard of the famous crime family, the Bakerinos??   ::MonkeyCool::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::
Now,Now,  you will put ideas into Baez' head..   Next thing you know there will have been a Mafia connection and Caylee was killed as revenge for the loan shark  (for George's gambling debts).


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 06, 2009, 04:28:17 PM
What do you all think about in Tracy's interview where she said she was told the babydaddy was Eric Baker, not Jesus Ortiz?  That Casey said Caylee was her little Italian?  Baker isn't an Italian name.  I think Cindy was the one that named Eric Baker..and said he was in another relationship and expecting another child and they didn't want to disrupt the relationship he was currently in....?  That doesn't ring true either..the A's not wanting to disrupt anything..Lord ..I thought disrupt was also part of the family motto.  You know "destroy, disrupt, deny"

 Have we ever heard his name mentioned before with this case?  Has anyone found any info on him or his family?

I too wondered why Casey would say Caylee was Italian (if she didn't know who it was).  I also remember the name Eric Baker.  What was the name of the "surfer dude" that also was rumored to be the daddy?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 06, 2009, 04:28:18 PM
What do you all think about in Tracy's interview where she said she was told the babydaddy was Eric Baker, not Jesus Ortiz?  That Casey said Caylee was her little Italian?  Baker isn't an Italian name.  I think Cindy was the one that named Eric Baker..and said he was in another relationship and expecting another child and they didn't want to disrupt the relationship he was currently in....?  That doesn't ring true either..the A's not wanting to disrupt anything..Lord ..I thought disrupt was also part of the family motto.  You know "destroy, disrupt, deny"

 Have we ever heard his name mentioned before with this case?  Has anyone found any info on him or his family?

Actually we have. It was in this OCSO report and somewhere along the way there was more info about his death. I haven't fount that yet, but I will keep digging.

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/casey_anthony_computer_report.pdf
Fanny, didn't a monkey find a death certificate on Erik Baker from Kentucky? TIA JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 06, 2009, 04:32:46 PM
CC, thank you for post Hal's blog.  ::MonkeyAngel::

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-leonard-padilla-associate-capture-the-absurdity.html


I think the strangness of the Anthony household was a shocking out of body moment for a lot of people, when listening to those audios on Friday. It happened that I was listening to them on my bed, and the dresser is right across the room in front of me. I caught myself in the mirror that day several times with a drop-jawed look on my face.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 04:34:50 PM
Cindy has no clue who the father is.
Casey doesn't even know.   She just swallows Casey's B.S. about other relationships...
Rick Plesea ,Cindy's brother had to enlighten her as to her daughter's pregnancy for goodness sake.. at 7 months
Western, I respect you immensely and enjoy your posts... have to say though, I have never been able to discount the possibility that Casey does indeed know who the daddy is... and his identity is somehow so extremely problematic that bizarre stories must be concocted to cover it up forever...

::sleazy monkey:: However, KC's "romance" track record definitely could support your belief that she really has no idea who it was.... 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 06, 2009, 04:35:44 PM
I remember an article in the Globe.

http://www.globemagazine.com/story/326

Caylee's Tragic Daddy

A HANDSOME Florida surfer is the father of murdered Orlando, Fla., tot Caylee Anthony, sources tell GLOBE in a gripping exclusive that bares all the tragic details of his suicide before the baby's first birthday and a remarkable paternity analysis. At last, GLOBE unravels the most haunting mystery in the crime that broke America's heart. It's the story you can't afford to miss!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 06, 2009, 04:36:03 PM
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8412112/Casey-Anthony-Eric-Baker-death-certificate

Here's the link to the death certificate
  ::MonkeyBike:: back to lurkdome


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 04:36:27 PM
Eric Baker's death certificate as posted by Northern Rose on July 15, 2009.


http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8412112/Casey-Anthony-Eric-Baker-death-certificate


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 06, 2009, 04:48:03 PM
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8412112/Casey-Anthony-Eric-Baker-death-certificate

Here's the link to the death certificate
  ::MonkeyBike:: back to lurkdome

Thank You JSM!!!  (No lurking allowed)   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 04:48:03 PM
Poor little Caylee had soooo many different daddies, if we could believe all the cockamamie stories her family tells...

Well, IMO she sure does have a lot of "sad blogger" mommies and daddies and grandmas and grandpas now.... all over the world.  We love her dearly and will never forget her!

Discussion @ Baby-Daddies:  http://justice4caylee.forumotion.net/rumors-gossip-innuendo-f27/another-candidate-for-baby-daddy-t1387-45.htm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 04:48:05 PM
Actually, there is a very good place for Documents on D. Casey's webpage.
NORTHERN ROSE also pointed this one out.


http://dgator.com/documents.aspx


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 06, 2009, 04:49:00 PM
Eric Baker's death certificate as posted by Northern Rose on July 15, 2009.


http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8412112/Casey-Anthony-Eric-Baker-death-certificate

(psssst, Fannie Mae, I think CBB left something for you on her thread).   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 04:53:37 PM
Eric Baker's death certificate as posted by Northern Rose on July 15, 2009.


http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8412112/Casey-Anthony-Eric-Baker-death-certificate

(psssst, Fannie Mae, I think CBB left something for you on her thread).   ::MonkeyAngel::

Ok, I'll go look! Thanks.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 04:55:44 PM
Yes, DC's website is one of many places you can find the docs.  Personally, I usually look them up at the doc link thread @ WS, or at ACandyRose, or at cayleemarieanthony.net -- if I can't find them at wftv or wesh or fox.

I know it is not rational, but I don't like to give Dominic my IP addy, nor the extra site hits... nor the reference... I'm so silly; it's just an personal thing... the same guy that was poking around in the woods... and lied to investigators... and was canoodling with Cindy if rumors are correct... he gives me the creeps.  (IMO) 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 06, 2009, 04:56:00 PM
The ladder in the pool story sounds unlikely.

Even more so:  Using a shovel to "remove" a ladder from a pool.

Picture of pool ladder:
  Look at the pool ladder and how it is the same height as the fence.  All she had to do was lean it back, pull it out of the pool and near the fence where she could lift and carry the body over or drop it and move it later.
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
I have never thought of that........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 06, 2009, 04:57:26 PM
http://itsamysterytome.wordpress.com/2009/04/16/who-is-caylee-anthonys-father/


Who is Caylee Anthony’s father?
2009 April 16


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 06, 2009, 04:57:48 PM
The ladder in the pool story sounds unlikely.

Even more so:  Using a shovel to "remove" a ladder from a pool.

Picture of pool ladder:
  Look at the pool ladder and how it is the same height as the fence.  All she had to do was lean it back, pull it out of the pool and near the fence where she could lift and carry the body over or drop it and move it later.
Also,didn't the dogs scent on quite a bit of that area near the fence and also the LE were checking on a weird impression in the dirt near the fence?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 06, 2009, 04:58:14 PM
Eric Baker's death certificate as posted by Northern Rose on July 15, 2009.


http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8412112/Casey-Anthony-Eric-Baker-death-certificate

(psssst, Fannie Mae, I think CBB left something for you on her thread).   ::MonkeyAngel::

Ok, I'll go look! Thanks.  ::MonkeyDance::


 ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer3::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 05:01:31 PM
Poor little Caylee had soooo many different daddies, if we could believe all the cockamamie stories her family tells...

Well, IMO she sure does have a lot of "sad blogger" mommies and daddies and grandmas and grandpas now.... all over the world.  We love her dearly and will never forget her!

Discussion @ Baby-Daddies:  http://justice4caylee.forumotion.net/rumors-gossip-innuendo-f27/another-candidate-for-baby-daddy-t1387-45.htm (http://justice4caylee.forumotion.net/rumors-gossip-innuendo-f27/another-candidate-for-baby-daddy-t1387-45.htm)
(self-edit to repair broken link)  
Sorry, hope the link works now.
http://justice4caylee.forumotion.net/rumors-gossip-innuendo-f27/another-candidate-for-baby-daddy-t1387-45.htm (http://justice4caylee.forumotion.net/rumors-gossip-innuendo-f27/another-candidate-for-baby-daddy-t1387-45.htm)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 05:02:09 PM
Yes, DC's website is one of many places you can find the docs.  Personally, I usually look them up at the doc link thread @ WS, or at ACandyRose, or at cayleemarieanthony.net -- if I can't find them at wftv or wesh or fox.

I know it is not rational, but I don't like to give Dominic my IP addy, nor the extra site hits... nor the reference... I'm so silly; it's just an personal thing... the same guy that was poking around in the woods... and lied to investigators... and was canoodling with Cindy if rumors are correct... he gives me the creeps.  (IMO) 

 ::MonkeyDevil:: I love that word, canoodling!  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 06, 2009, 05:07:03 PM
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8412112/Casey-Anthony-Eric-Baker-death-certificate

Here's the link to the death certificate
  ::MonkeyBike:: back to lurkdome

Thank You JSM!!!  (No lurking allowed)   ::MonkeyJnBox::
YVW  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 05:07:13 PM
The ladder in the pool story sounds unlikely.

Even more so:  Using a shovel to "remove" a ladder from a pool.

Picture of pool ladder:
  Look at the pool ladder and how it is the same height as the fence.  All she had to do was lean it back, pull it out of the pool and near the fence where she could lift and carry the body over or drop it and move it later.
::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::
I have never thought of that........

It is my recollection, somewhere in the beginning when the dogs were being used, the area behind the fenceline was checked. I do not remember if it was the LE dogs, or later with some of the searchers. I think. Just me. I have no link.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 06, 2009, 05:08:34 PM
Actually, there is a very good place for Documents on D. Casey's webpage.
NORTHERN ROSE also pointed this one out.


http://dgator.com/documents.aspx
thanks  ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 05:10:28 PM
<self-snipped by Desi>
So, you never heard of the famous crime family, the Bakerinos??   ::MonkeyCool::  ::MonkeyHaHa::
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::
Now,Now,  you will put ideas into Baez' head..   Next thing you know there will have been a Mafia connection and Caylee was killed as revenge for the loan shark  (for George's gambling debts).
Actually we may be onto something here.  The famous crime family just has a different name..... it starts with an "A" and it rhymes with "Scamthonys."
 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 06, 2009, 05:13:21 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Where is all the really good juicy stuff at? This case has way too many threads to really get to. I try but it's tough. If there is anything good please let me know.                                 ( Now why is this Tony? Who are you running to with the juicy stuff? I don't trust any of them, they all have an agenda and it all involves making money. This was from WS)
NoRose,can you tell me which thread at WS you read this above?They have so many threads over there and I get lost but I just looked in the Tony thread #2 and can't find that post.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 05:14:05 PM
Poor little Caylee had soooo many different daddies, if we could believe all the cockamamie stories her family tells...

Well, IMO she sure does have a lot of "sad blogger" mommies and daddies and grandmas and grandpas now.... all over the world.  We love her dearly and will never forget her!

Discussion @ Baby-Daddies:  http://justice4caylee.forumotion.net/rumors-gossip-innuendo-f27/another-candidate-for-baby-daddy-t1387-45.htm (http://justice4caylee.forumotion.net/rumors-gossip-innuendo-f27/another-candidate-for-baby-daddy-t1387-45.htm)
(self-edit to repair broken link)  
Sorry, hope the link works now.
http://justice4caylee.forumotion.net/rumors-gossip-innuendo-f27/another-candidate-for-baby-daddy-t1387-45.htm (http://justice4caylee.forumotion.net/rumors-gossip-innuendo-f27/another-candidate-for-baby-daddy-t1387-45.htm)

Holy Cow!!!  ::MonkeyEek:: Skanky takes the word "slore" to a whole new demension.  ::MonkeyShocked::  Poor Caylee.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 06, 2009, 05:17:48 PM
The ladder in the pool story sounds unlikely.
Even more so:  Using a shovel to "remove" a ladder from a pool.
Picture of pool ladder:
I think Caylee accidently drowning in the pool may have been yet another anthony "story".Maybe they thought or discussed this as a way to possibly get casey less time and forgot to tell casey that they were dropping that"story",hence the reason george or cindy gave casey the"no,no,shutup"faces when casey brought up the ladder being fished out of the pool with the shovel"story".
WHOA!  Karma... wow, great minds, or what?? (see what I posted right after you)    ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

LOL....ok,that was kinda skeery.    ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 05:30:29 PM
http://itsamysterytome.wordpress.com/2009/04/16/who-is-caylee-anthonys-father/
Who is Caylee Anthony’s father?
2009 April 16
Thanks, cece.  That is a good piece.  There are a few candidates missing IMO, but they did a good job and the pics are excellent. 

IMO Jesse Grund could give Casey a lesson or two in what people look like when they genuinely cry.  The guy who really loved Casey and Caylee.. Who was willing to be Caylee's daddy even though he was not the biodad.  He cried on national TV when discussing his precious little Caylee.  Real tears, Casey.  (From cece's link.)
(http://itsamysterytome.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/jesse-grund.png)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 06, 2009, 05:35:46 PM
http://itsamysterytome.wordpress.com/2009/04/16/who-is-caylee-anthonys-father/
Who is Caylee Anthony’s father?
2009 April 16
Thanks, cece.  That is a good piece.  There are a few candidates missing IMO, but they did a good job and the pics are excellent. 

IMO Jesse Grund could give Casey a lesson or two in what people look like when they genuinely cry.  The guy who really loved Casey and Caylee.. Who was willing to be Caylee's daddy even though he was not the biodad.  He cried on national TV when discussing his precious little Caylee.  Real tears, Casey.  (From cece's link.)
(http://itsamysterytome.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/jesse-grund.png)

To turn down such a great guy, and then turning around and dissing him the way she has, shows just what little character Skanky really has. Definitly my opinion.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 05:36:19 PM
Well that's it for me, Monks.  I'm outta here for now.  It was nice to have the time today to hang out in the cage for awhile.  Thanks for all the links and good discussion.

God Bless Our Caylee.
 ::MonkeyAngel::
 :smt049 :smt049 :smt049 :smt049 :smt049


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 06, 2009, 05:41:55 PM
I remember an article in the Globe.

http://www.globemagazine.com/story/326

Caylee's Tragic Daddy

A HANDSOME Florida surfer is the father of murdered Orlando, Fla., tot Caylee Anthony, sources tell GLOBE in a gripping exclusive that bares all the tragic details of his suicide before the baby's first birthday and a remarkable paternity analysis. At last, GLOBE unravels the most haunting mystery in the crime that broke America's heart. It's the story you can't afford to miss!

Wow ..thanks CeCe  and everyone who gave their imput.  I'll have a lot of reading to do going back through old posts here and then the articles.  I do believe that Casey probably does know the baby daddy....and there has to be a reason that she did not out him and child support or SS benefits for Caylee.  Maybe she got a lump sum payment from him or his family to just get the heck out of his life.  Anything is possible with this crew.  But more then likely he whoever the mystery man is , he never even knew Caylee existed....that's the way the A's like to keep control..through deception.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 06, 2009, 05:42:35 PM
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8412112/Casey-Anthony-Eric-Baker-death-certificate

Here's the link to the death certificate
  ::MonkeyBike:: back to lurkdome
Thanks, 18 years old and lived in Kentucky  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: karenmamo on September 06, 2009, 05:45:02 PM
Just jumping in and might have not seen this when I skimmed the pages to get caught up, but didn't LE also suggest it was an accident in the beginning? Or am I totally off on that.  ::MonkeyConfused::
You are not off, NRCG!  They did.  It could have been a way to offer an easy "out" for Casey so she would confess, and thereby help them locate Caylee's remains.  LE tactic perhaps.  Or maybe they really were fielding the possibility that it could have been an accident at that early stage in the investigation.

Then chloroform came into the picture...

And then one day a meter reader needed to relieve himself... and the rest is history.  When Caylee's remains were found, well... it's not a very likely possibility that the duct tape "accidentally" got plastered all over Caylee's lower face...  But you are right, in the beginning, LE DID indeed (in witness interviews and IIRC in media reports?) proffer the theory that Casey could be covering up an accidental death... and yet Cindy always said NO WAY -- Casey would come straight to us if Caylee so much as skinned her knee, blah blah blah...

Thank-you. I'm going to write this and I don't want people to be upset with me, but it is really bugging me. I know a lot of people think this was a premeditated murder, and maybe it was, I don't know. But for some reason after listening to some of the things that Tracy especially was saying about Casey, and that she has no grip on reality. Is there any chance that Caylee died accidently in the pool, Casey then set this all up, duct tape, and all these outlandish stories, could she have snapped when it happened, was she afraid for Cindy especially to find out? 99% of us when there is a tragic accident would do the proper thing, but if she has no grasp on reality.....     Just a thought, and most likely a bad thought.


Hi Monks!  NoRose, I tend to agree with you.  I believe LP when he said something to the effect that "KC lives her life 5 minutes at a time".  I think Caylee's death could have been a result of negligence and/or rage.  Maybe KC had contemplated what her life would have been like with the baby, but I'm not convinced killing Caylee was the end result of a carefully plotted scheme.  IMO, KC is too impulsive.
I do so agree with this...we have all been trying to give casey credit for thinking and planning.  Just did not happen..Casey just lost it momentarily...long enough for that baby to be killed.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 06, 2009, 06:04:44 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Interesting. I have heard that quote before. It's in a movie I think. Okay point well taken about the metaphor. However, I really believe that everybody here (or a huge majority) paint the Anthony's to be rotten horrible people. They cant wait to "cast another stone". Again I don not agree with what they have done or siad about numerous things but do you think you could be rational in those shoes?
(I don't trust Tony, I want to know what his agenda really is, and it isn't in my opinion justice for Caylee, I see dollar signs.)

Wait, did he see Desi metaphor already????????? 
Tony - if you are reading:  It's called spell check. Look into it.  Seriously, I am not buying it is him.

It really is Tony. I have debated the last couple of days about bringing Rob's comments over from his site. It feels wrong, yet he has never said not to do it.  His take on
Tony and the rest is most informative.  I am still debating.



Please do...I would like to know what he thinks.............especially about Tony. You must be a member of his forum......so please ask him why he was letting Cindy hug and rub on him....uuuuuuggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh ::MonkeyDevil::

Rob is shrewd. He has a good grasp of the situation...and set up that site to avoid all the screwballs imposters and such that went on last year.  He does not drop in often, but is good to explain when he does come in.
I might bring his comments over here tonight. Kinda busy this afternoon.
Casey told Tracy the CO's (jailers) snuck her food while she was in-custody the first time. Casey has a way of getting what she wants sometimes...
One of the reasons we thought she would even pass a polygraph is that she truly believes in her own lies.
Yes it was the real Tony Padilla on WS. He was stating his opinion. Leonard and Tony don't see eye to eye on many topics but Tony was basically telling the truth. We all started out for the right reasons and we all had a role to play and a job to do. As we found out that it was basically a game, it became semi personal. As Leonard stated to Casey when she ordered him out: "We are gonna find that little girl, with or without your help!" We all carried out what we were there to do.

Make no mistake that Leonard loves the spotlight and being on TV as does the media love to put him on so I can't blame him for that. He will be the first one to tell you he is the self quoted "Media Whore" and when asked by the media why are you here in front of the camera, he will say "you" called me.

As far as the memorial, Tony was pissed and didn't think it was Leonard's place to put it on but, I was there and it was nice. Richard did a great job and it was sad that people were banned from the Cindy show in the first place. I heard that the reason I was banned was for having this forum. I saw the ban list, I was on it, along with a caution because I was armed. So it was a nice service for us and to help with closure for those that were not allowed to attend the Cindy service.

As far as the kind words of the Athony's by Tony, as far as his contact with them, they were nice to him.

Ok, how to explain this.....the Padilla's are an interesting group of people, Leonard has a brother (Greg), who is in the bail bond business, office directly across the street from Leonard's and they can't stand each other and don't even talk. All I can say is that Tony and Leonard get in disagreements all the time and they are defiantly two completely different types of personalities.

Rob on Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:03 pm

One more thing.....the TV / Media bug is a strange thing and one that effects people in different ways. Leonard has always loved the camera and the camera loves his personality. I must say it is not "this Case" that created Leonard, as I have said before Leonard has been in the spotlight or on TV for years. It is because this case has fascinated so many people nationally that has brought him into national spotlight as one of the big "Players". Some just stay out of the lime light, Tracy for example doesn't like it and does not want to be in front of a camera. The funny part is that most people can't help it, it effects them rather they like it or not. When you watch reality TV if you look at how people start a show and then as the show progresses it goes to their head and they change (their appearance, their attitude, everything about them) and it is hard not to. Now I am not saying Leonard has changed even in our shows, do you really think Leonard leaves his desk and goes to an apprehension, not anymore (unless there is gonna be a camera there...lol.) But, that is OK and we all try not to let it change us...

Give you an example when the statements came out and part of why you see Tony upset. You now find that Leonard's total time around Casey was about the length of the initial ride home, inside the house for a brief moment and about 5 seconds on the couch before she told him to leave. He has been living in the media on what Tracy and I have told him but, that's OK. Tony just tries to set the record straight. Understand that when it becomes to being a witness, we have to be careful as to what we put out their.

Side note: talking about putting your own personality in check... I had to catch myself saying "hey what about me" when our three statements came out and the headlines were about Leonard and Tracy. There goes that media bug....hahaha
OK--ther is a little to chew on till I can return.
karen

thanks karen...that was interesting and it seems an honest representation. ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 06, 2009, 06:06:07 PM
Premeditated murder can happen in an instant. It doesn't have to take massive amounts of time/planning. Often it does, but it doesn't have to. She lives 10 minutes at a time. I doubt she would plan such an extravagant scheme. She may claim to be an event planner :roll: , but IMO...no way.

Same with if it were an accident. I doubt she could/would plan out such an extravagant scheme.

Casey will never confess to either.

Nut I agree....she will never confess!! ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 06, 2009, 06:06:54 PM
What do you all think about in Tracy's interview where she said she was told the babydaddy was Eric Baker, not Jesus Ortiz?  That Casey said Caylee was her little Italian?  Baker isn't an Italian name.  I think Cindy was the one that named Eric Baker..and said he was in another relationship and expecting another child and they didn't want to disrupt the relationship he was currently in....?  That doesn't ring true either..the A's not wanting to disrupt anything..Lord ..I thought disrupt was also part of the family motto.  You know "destroy, disrupt, deny"

 Have we ever heard his name mentioned before with this case?  Has anyone found any info on him or his family?

Here is "the" Eric Baker's myspace page.....I'll post his death certificate in a few minutes.

http://www.myspace.com/249613227


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 06, 2009, 06:09:45 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Where is all the really good juicy stuff at? This case has way too many threads to really get to. I try but it's tough. If there is anything good please let me know.                                 ( Now why is this Tony? Who are you running to with the juicy stuff? I don't trust any of them, they all have an agenda and it all involves making money. This was from WS)
NoRose,can you tell me which thread at WS you read this above?They have so many threads over there and I get lost but I just looked in the Tony thread #2 and can't find that post.
It's in the Tracy thread, he popped in on that thread.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 06, 2009, 06:09:54 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Interesting. I have heard that quote before. It's in a movie I think. Okay point well taken about the metaphor. However, I really believe that everybody here (or a huge majority) paint the Anthony's to be rotten horrible people. They cant wait to "cast another stone". Again I don not agree with what they have done or siad about numerous things but do you think you could be rational in those shoes?
(I don't trust Tony, I want to know what his agenda really is, and it isn't in my opinion justice for Caylee, I see dollar signs.)

nrcg....I don't trust him either. First of all why in the hell is he talking so bad about LP? Even if the thinks it, what is the point of putting it on a forum on the Internet.? I honestly think he is JEALOUS!!! But I also think he has another motive.....I just don't know what that motive is.  Why didn't the A's do like other families and get a spokesperson for the family....A trusted friend, minister or relative?? Why didn't they keep their mouths shut? Why didn't they look for Caylee?  I don't know if I could be rational, but I do know I wouldn't try to alienate the whole frigging world....especially people like Tim and TES and Mark Nejame.  Both of these people offered help to them.....no charge....but neither would allow the A's to run the show.

Another motive?  Aren't they all just airing their dirty linen in public?  He has stated several times he is thinking about writing a book......
If his efforts on WS are an example of his talents so far, I would say this.
Don't quit your day job Tony.

LOL....I think he has now said the book statement was said in sarcastically ::MonkeyTease:: and he isn't writing a book....but why would we believe him??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 06, 2009, 06:13:47 PM
(http://i27.tinypic.com/zn5tdz.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 06, 2009, 06:15:09 PM
Thanks to all that answered, we may never know what exactly happened to Caylee  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I have resigned myself to that and to not knowing exactly how Caylee died. And for me, that's OK. The truth may be something that gives me nightmares. Without knowing, I can be like kc and live my own truth about it.....as long as kc pays with LWOP or the DP


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 06, 2009, 06:15:54 PM
Hi Monkeys! I got to it late, but getting through Tracy's interview was like listening to fingernails on a chalkboard to me!   ::MonkeyConfused::

I agree that Casey is impulsive and it fits better to me that she did something to Caylee on impulse. The only thing that "glitches" me about that is the duct tape. IF Caylee was killed by suffocation from it, then Casey would have had to get the tape, wrap her face, watch her struggle, and wait. That's a pretty long "knee-jerk" reaction in my way of thinking.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 06, 2009, 06:18:48 PM
Yes, DC's website is one of many places you can find the docs.  Personally, I usually look them up at the doc link thread @ WS, or at ACandyRose, or at cayleemarieanthony.net -- if I can't find them at wftv or wesh or fox.

I know it is not rational, but I don't like to give Dominic my IP addy, nor the extra site hits... nor the reference... I'm so silly; it's just an personal thing... the same guy that was poking around in the woods... and lied to investigators... and was canoodling with Cindy if rumors are correct... he gives me the creeps.  (IMO) 

Desi..I really use ACandyRose.com as my go to for timelines.  She did an excellant job on the Stacy Peterson case, Jon Benet, etc.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 06, 2009, 06:26:22 PM
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8412112/Casey-Anthony-Eric-Baker-death-certificate

Here's the link to the death certificate
  ::MonkeyBike:: back to lurkdome

Thanks for the link to the death certificate!!  BTW, please add the phrase 'back to lurkdome' to the things you are NOT allow to say :smt064 :smt058


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 06, 2009, 06:32:30 PM
http://itsamysterytome.wordpress.com/2009/04/16/who-is-caylee-anthonys-father/


Who is Caylee Anthony’s father?
2009 April 16


All I can say is I was probably one of the happiest people in the world the day it was  finally revealed that LEE was not her biodad.....I never thought for a moment he was and I wanted to bitchslap LP.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 06, 2009, 06:36:40 PM
Monkeys thank you so much for the wonderful discussion and great company this afternoon.  I need to go for now.  See you all later.

Happy Labor Day to all the Monkeys....you are all such intelligent caring people!!!

 ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 06, 2009, 06:42:07 PM
Monkeys thank you so much for the wonderful discussion and great company this afternoon.  I need to go for now.  See you all later.

Happy Labor Day to all the Monkeys....you are all such intelligent caring people!!!

 ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::
Bye Gypsy...always good to see you here!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 06, 2009, 06:47:14 PM
I'm just hoping the reason Tracy needed immunity is because they bugged every room in that house and the details will be on the next reveal.  I would give her immunity for that...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 06, 2009, 06:49:44 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Interesting. I have heard that quote before. It's in a movie I think. Okay point well taken about the metaphor. However, I really believe that everybody here (or a huge majority) paint the Anthony's to be rotten horrible people. They cant wait to "cast another stone". Again I don not agree with what they have done or siad about numerous things but do you think you could be rational in those shoes?
(I don't trust Tony, I want to know what his agenda really is, and it isn't in my opinion justice for Caylee, I see dollar signs.)

nrcg....I don't trust him either. First of all why in the hell is he talking so bad about LP? Even if the thinks it, what is the point of putting it on a forum on the Internet.? I honestly think he is JEALOUS!!! But I also think he has another motive.....I just don't know what that motive is.  Why didn't the A's do like other families and get a spokesperson for the family....A trusted friend, minister or relative?? Why didn't they keep their mouths shut? Why didn't they look for Caylee?  I don't know if I could be rational, but I do know I wouldn't try to alienate the whole frigging world....especially people like Tim and TES and Mark Nejame.  Both of these people offered help to them.....no charge....but neither would allow the A's to run the show.

Another motive?  Aren't they all just airing their dirty linen in public?  He has stated several times he is thinking about writing a book......
If his efforts on WS are an example of his talents so far, I would say this.
Don't quit your day job Tony.

LOL....I think he has now said the book statement was said in sarcastically ::MonkeyTease:: and he isn't writing a book....but why would we believe him??

I don't believe that. Nothing in his statements indicate he was joking or being sarcastic. He thought he would float the idea on WS and then he saw it got a cooool reaction and now is backtracking.  I think I trust Lenny a whole lot more than I trust him....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 06, 2009, 07:00:50 PM
Originally Posted by Tony Padilla 
Where is all the really good juicy stuff at? This case has way too many threads to really get to. I try but it's tough. If there is anything good please let me know.                                 ( Now why is this Tony? Who are you running to with the juicy stuff? I don't trust any of them, they all have an agenda and it all involves making money. This was from WS)
NoRose,can you tell me which thread at WS you read this above?They have so many threads over there and I get lost but I just looked in the Tony thread #2 and can't find that post.
It's in the Tracy thread, he popped in on that thread.
Thank you


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: AnnetteInMn on September 06, 2009, 07:09:46 PM
Someone may have already mentioned this but I skipped ahead so that I could post this "food for thought" while still fresh in my mind.

All this discussion about Dominic Casey's search and the pool ladder etc. got me to thinking.  I don't mean to be gruesome or anything like that but the following thought crossed my mind:

Is it possible that the Anthony's (or someone within that clan) wanted the jury to believe that Caylee's death was accidental.  There is no way that a jury pool can believe that the death was accidental when there is duct tape and a heart shaped sticker on the skull.  Could they have sent Dominic Casey to locate the body so that the duct tape/sticker could be removed?  Not that Dominic Casey himself would be responsible for the removal but they needed the exact location of the body pin-pointed so someone could do the deed.  The duct tape/sticker is, from what I recall, the factor that led the medical examiner to the conclusion of homicide.  Without that evidence it sure would be a lot harder to prosecute a death penalty murder case.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 06, 2009, 08:04:40 PM
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8412112/Casey-Anthony-Eric-Baker-death-certificate

Here's the link to the death certificate
  ::MonkeyBike:: back to lurkdome

Thanks for the link to the death certificate!!  BTW, please add the phrase 'back to lurkdome' to the things you are NOT allow to say :smt064 :smt058
YVW, sorry won't say it again  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 06, 2009, 08:04:41 PM
I'm just hoping the reason Tracy needed immunity is because they bugged every room in that house and the details will be on the next reveal.  I would give her immunity for that...

WO, I hope so too!  But doubt any of it would be allowed as evidence from an illegal wire ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on September 06, 2009, 08:08:19 PM
Someone may have already mentioned this but I skipped ahead so that I could post this "food for thought" while still fresh in my mind.

All this discussion about Dominic Casey's search and the pool ladder etc. got me to thinking.  I don't mean to be gruesome or anything like that but the following thought crossed my mind:

Is it possible that the Anthony's (or someone within that clan) wanted the jury to believe that Caylee's death was accidental.  There is no way that a jury pool can believe that the death was accidental when there is duct tape and a heart shaped sticker on the skull.  Could they have sent Dominic Casey to locate the body so that the duct tape/sticker could be removed?  Not that Dominic Casey himself would be responsible for the removal but they needed the exact location of the body pin-pointed so someone could do the deed.  The duct tape/sticker is, from what I recall, the factor that led the medical examiner to the conclusion of homicide.  Without that evidence it sure would be a lot harder to prosecute a death penalty murder case.
good point!  but on the other hand they would have to of known that there was tape there in the first place.  granted the a's are bizarre to say the least, but to have known that casey had applied the duct tape?????  imho even if she had fessed up i'm thinkin' she would have left that part out. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 06, 2009, 08:13:02 PM
I'm just hoping the reason Tracy needed immunity is because they bugged every room in that house and the details will be on the next reveal.  I would give her immunity for that...

WO, I hope so too!  But doubt any of it would be allowed as evidence from an illegal wire ::MonkeyWaa::

Awww. ::MonkeyShocked::         Even if it was not the Police that did it?  Is it illegal for Bounty Hunters/PI's whatever capacity they were in the house as, to bug their clients?   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 06, 2009, 08:15:56 PM
Someone may have already mentioned this but I skipped ahead so that I could post this "food for thought" while still fresh in my mind.

All this discussion about Dominic Casey's search and the pool ladder etc. got me to thinking.  I don't mean to be gruesome or anything like that but the following thought crossed my mind:

Is it possible that the Anthony's (or someone within that clan) wanted the jury to believe that Caylee's death was accidental.  There is no way that a jury pool can believe that the death was accidental when there is duct tape and a heart shaped sticker on the skull.  Could they have sent Dominic Casey to locate the body so that the duct tape/sticker could be removed?  Not that Dominic Casey himself would be responsible for the removal but they needed the exact location of the body pin-pointed so someone could do the deed.  The duct tape/sticker is, from what I recall, the factor that led the medical examiner to the conclusion of homicide.  Without that evidence it sure would be a lot harder to prosecute a death penalty murder case.

I don't know what made them bring the DP back but I am sure glad they did!!  I, like you, would think it was the duct tape and hopefully some other forensics we have et to see. Who knows what fantasy they will try to make up about the duct tape... ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on September 06, 2009, 08:24:56 PM
I'm just hoping the reason Tracy needed immunity is because they bugged every room in that house and the details will be on the next reveal.  I would give her immunity for that...

WO, I hope so too!  But doubt any of it would be allowed as evidence from an illegal wire ::MonkeyWaa::

Awww. ::MonkeyShocked::         Even if it was not the Police that did it?  Is it illegal for Bounty Hunters/PI's whatever capacity they were in the house as, to bug their clients?   
i believe anyone can be wired...now if you can take it to court???  i don't know about that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 06, 2009, 08:43:56 PM
I'm just hoping the reason Tracy needed immunity is because they bugged every room in that house and the details will be on the next reveal.  I would give her immunity for that...

WO, I hope so too!  But doubt any of it would be allowed as evidence from an illegal wire ::MonkeyWaa::

Awww. ::MonkeyShocked::         Even if it was not the Police that did it?  Is it illegal for Bounty Hunters/PI's whatever capacity they were in the house as, to bug their clients?   

I really do not know the answer...my GUESS would be yes, it would be illegal and I have nothing to base that on other than a guess.  I also think they might be able to sue for invasion of privacy....but again that is nothing more than a guess on my part.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: AnnetteInMn on September 06, 2009, 08:45:16 PM
Someone may have already mentioned this but I skipped ahead so that I could post this "food for thought" while still fresh in my mind.

All this discussion about Dominic Casey's search and the pool ladder etc. got me to thinking.  I don't mean to be gruesome or anything like that but the following thought crossed my mind:

Is it possible that the Anthony's (or someone within that clan) wanted the jury to believe that Caylee's death was accidental.  There is no way that a jury pool can believe that the death was accidental when there is duct tape and a heart shaped sticker on the skull.  Could they have sent Dominic Casey to locate the body so that the duct tape/sticker could be removed?  Not that Dominic Casey himself would be responsible for the removal but they needed the exact location of the body pin-pointed so someone could do the deed.  The duct tape/sticker is, from what I recall, the factor that led the medical examiner to the conclusion of homicide.  Without that evidence it sure would be a lot harder to prosecute a death penalty murder case.

I don't know what made them bring the DP back but I am sure glad they did!!  I, like you, would think it was the duct tape and hopefully some other forensics we have et to see. Who knows what fantasy they will try to make up about the duct tape... ::MonkeyRoll::

I didn't think about it when I originally posted this but it may also explain why Baez didn't want law enforcement contacted if Dominic Casey did find the  body.  I personally believe that Baez, and quite possibly Lee, George, and Cindy were told what to expect.  I doubt Casey herself explained details to Lee and her parents but I believe Baez knew beforehand.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on September 06, 2009, 08:55:43 PM
Someone may have already mentioned this but I skipped ahead so that I could post this "food for thought" while still fresh in my mind.

All this discussion about Dominic Casey's search and the pool ladder etc. got me to thinking.  I don't mean to be gruesome or anything like that but the following thought crossed my mind:

Is it possible that the Anthony's (or someone within that clan) wanted the jury to believe that Caylee's death was accidental.  There is no way that a jury pool can believe that the death was accidental when there is duct tape and a heart shaped sticker on the skull.  Could they have sent Dominic Casey to locate the body so that the duct tape/sticker could be removed?  Not that Dominic Casey himself would be responsible for the removal but they needed the exact location of the body pin-pointed so someone could do the deed.  The duct tape/sticker is, from what I recall, the factor that led the medical examiner to the conclusion of homicide.  Without that evidence it sure would be a lot harder to prosecute a death penalty murder case.

I don't know what made them bring the DP back but I am sure glad they did!!  I, like you, would think it was the duct tape and hopefully some other forensics we have et to see. Who knows what fantasy they will try to make up about the duct tape... ::MonkeyRoll::

I didn't think about it when I originally posted this but it may also explain why Baez didn't want law enforcement contacted if Dominic Casey did find the  body.  I personally believe that Baez, and quite possibly Lee, George, and Cindy were told what to expect.  I doubt Casey herself explained details to Lee and her parents but I believe Baez knew beforehand.



I would think it would be too risky to tamper with the remains by removing the duct tape and then leave the rest there. There’s always the chance something might be left behind to incriminate whoever was removing evidence. Seems it would have been better all around to just relocate the remains to where they could never be found making it harder to prosecute the case without a body.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Mary Ann on September 06, 2009, 08:58:11 PM
I have always believed from the beginning that poor Caylee was killed because she could talk and tell everyone what Casey was doing. Casey never should have been a mother. She did not deserve a little sweetheart like Caylee. This family is so disfunctional....Hopefully there will be justice, but after the OJ shit show, I am not hopeful......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 06, 2009, 09:21:36 PM
I have always believed from the beginning that poor Caylee was killed because she could talk and tell everyone what Casey was doing. Casey never should have been a mother. She did not deserve a little sweetheart like Caylee. This family is so disfunctional....Hopefully there will be justice, but after the OJ shit show, I am not hopeful......
I feel the same way, and not just with OJ, someother trials I have watched that ended with me almost breaking my tv with the verdicts.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Mary Ann on September 06, 2009, 09:36:33 PM
Yup NRCG, I will also destroy the TV is she is  not put away forever!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 06, 2009, 09:41:06 PM
Yup NRCG, I will also destroy the TV is she is  not put away forever!!!
I don't believe in slam dunk cases, I have left myself get devasted over some outcomes, so I just say to myself what happens there is a reason for it happening, I just can't get myself go completely crazy worrying about it. I'm a firm believer that no matter what happens with things, there is always a reason for it happening. I hope for the right outcome, but prepare myself for the outcome I don't want to happen.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 06, 2009, 09:53:17 PM
Regarding the wiretapping if it was done by Tracy and LP

http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/florida/florida-recording-law

Florida's wiretapping law is a "two-party consent" law. Florida makes it a crime to intercept or record a "wire, oral, or electronic communication" in Florida, unless all parties to the communication consent

Florida law makes an exception for in-person communications when the parties do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the conversation, such as when they are engaged in conversation in a public place where they might reasonably be overheard. If you are operating in Florida, you may record these kinds of in-person conversations without breaking the law. However, you should always get the consent of all parties before recording any telephone conversation and any in-person that common sense tells you is private.

In addition to subjecting you to criminal prosecution, violating the Florida wiretapping law can expose you to a civil lawsuit for damages by an injured party.

Okay the way I read this is it is against the law for Tracy and LP to wiretap what was said in the confines of the Anthony's house. So if they did do that without prior consent, then that could be why Tracy asked for immunity.

What I have highlighted in blue is how Commander Matt whats his name got around taping Cindy kevtching about Yuri. He took her to a public place, BBQ joint, so being in a public place it was legal for him to tape her.

I hope this makes sense. I am just throwing this out there.

JMO JSM   ::MonkeyBike::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 06, 2009, 09:54:33 PM
I'm just hoping the reason Tracy needed immunity is because they bugged every room in that house and the details will be on the next reveal.  I would give her immunity for that...

WO, I hope so too!  But doubt any of it would be allowed as evidence from an illegal wire ::MonkeyWaa::

Awww. ::MonkeyShocked::         Even if it was not the Police that did it?  Is it illegal for Bounty Hunters/PI's whatever capacity they were in the house as, to bug their clients?   

I really do not know the answer...my GUESS would be yes, it would be illegal and I have nothing to base that on other than a guess.  I also think they might be able to sue for invasion of privacy....but again that is nothing more than a guess on my part.

IN Florida, both parties must know and agree. 
http://www.callcorder.com/phone-recording-law-america.htm

For LE - I think they have to get an order via a judge.  They have to show reasonable cause, if my memory serves me correct.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 06, 2009, 09:57:50 PM
LOL - JSM looks like we were channeling the same thought! LOL 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 06, 2009, 10:01:13 PM
LOL - JSM looks like we were channeling the same thought! LOL 
Yeah I guess so. It was something that was bugging me (no pun intended)  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on September 06, 2009, 10:09:20 PM
Regarding the wiretapping if it was done by Tracy and LP

http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/florida/florida-recording-law

Florida's wiretapping law is a "two-party consent" law. Florida makes it a crime to intercept or record a "wire, oral, or electronic communication" in Florida, unless all parties to the communication consent

Florida law makes an exception for in-person communications when the parties do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the conversation, such as when they are engaged in conversation in a public place where they might reasonably be overheard. If you are operating in Florida, you may record these kinds of in-person conversations without breaking the law. However, you should always get the consent of all parties before recording any telephone conversation and any in-person that common sense tells you is private.

In addition to subjecting you to criminal prosecution, violating the Florida wiretapping law can expose you to a civil lawsuit for damages by an injured party.

Okay the way I read this is it is against the law for Tracy and LP to wiretap what was said in the confines of the Anthony's house. So if they did do that without prior consent, then that could be why Tracy asked for immunity.

What I have highlighted in blue is how Commander Matt whats his name got around taping Cindy kevtching about Yuri. He took her to a public place, BBQ joint, so being in a public place it was legal for him to tape her.

I hope this makes sense. I am just throwing this out there.

JMO JSM   ::MonkeyBike::


::cartwheel:: ::MonkeySlide:: ::MonkeySkate::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 06, 2009, 10:25:31 PM
Regarding the wiretapping if it was done by Tracy and LP

http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/florida/florida-recording-law

Florida's wiretapping law is a "two-party consent" law. Florida makes it a crime to intercept or record a "wire, oral, or electronic communication" in Florida, unless all parties to the communication consent

Florida law makes an exception for in-person communications when the parties do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the conversation, such as when they are engaged in conversation in a public place where they might reasonably be overheard. If you are operating in Florida, you may record these kinds of in-person conversations without breaking the law. However, you should always get the consent of all parties before recording any telephone conversation and any in-person that common sense tells you is private.

In addition to subjecting you to criminal prosecution, violating the Florida wiretapping law can expose you to a civil lawsuit for damages by an injured party.

Okay the way I read this is it is against the law for Tracy and LP to wiretap what was said in the confines of the Anthony's house. So if they did do that without prior consent, then that could be why Tracy asked for immunity.

What I have highlighted in blue is how Commander Matt whats his name got around taping Cindy kevtching about Yuri. He took her to a public place, BBQ joint, so being in a public place it was legal for him to tape her.

I hope this makes sense. I am just throwing this out there.

JMO JSM   ::MonkeyBike::


::cartwheel:: ::MonkeySlide:: ::MonkeySkate::
Whatcha dancing for Mama?   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 06, 2009, 10:35:07 PM
Yup NRCG, I will also destroy the TV is she is  not put away forever!!!
I don't believe in slam dunk cases, I have left myself get devasted over some outcomes, so I just say to myself what happens there is a reason for it happening, I just can't get myself go completely crazy worrying about it. I'm a firm believer that no matter what happens with things, there is always a reason for it happening. I hope for the right outcome, but prepare myself for the outcome I don't want to happen.
No Rose I don't believe in slam dunk cases either, but I think this one will be a SLAM DUNK GUILTY verdict. Not possibly the DP, but she will get life.

Darlie Routier had far less evidence against her and she is on death row. Is she less guilty than KC? NO.

They both killed their kids and acted stupidly after the fact. Darlie with the silly string at the grave site. KC partying for 30 odd days before saying Caylee was missing.

These are things that jurors and the SA/DA will remind the jurors about the partying, the movie rental and all her lies. In my mind, slam dunk. Case closed.

JMO JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 06, 2009, 10:47:56 PM
Regarding the wiretapping if it was done by Tracy and LP

http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/florida/florida-recording-law

Florida's wiretapping law is a "two-party consent" law. Florida makes it a crime to intercept or record a "wire, oral, or electronic communication" in Florida, unless all parties to the communication consent

Florida law makes an exception for in-person communications when the parties do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the conversation, such as when they are engaged in conversation in a public place where they might reasonably be overheard. If you are operating in Florida, you may record these kinds of in-person conversations without breaking the law. However, you should always get the consent of all parties before recording any telephone conversation and any in-person that common sense tells you is private.

In addition to subjecting you to criminal prosecution, violating the Florida wiretapping law can expose you to a civil lawsuit for damages by an injured party.

Okay the way I read this is it is against the law for Tracy and LP to wiretap what was said in the confines of the Anthony's house. So if they did do that without prior consent, then that could be why Tracy asked for immunity.

What I have highlighted in blue is how Commander Matt whats his name got around taping Cindy kevtching about Yuri. He took her to a public place, BBQ joint, so being in a public place it was legal for him to tape her.

I hope this makes sense. I am just throwing this out there.

JMO JSM   ::MonkeyBike::



Thankyou JSM, and your trusty assistant Josef   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 10:48:11 PM
Monkeys, sorry to barge in.  Was about to turn in early tonight, was closing out all the open tabs in my browser, had WS open from earlier -- looked at the index there and saw a thread about the new Dominic Casey and James Hoover video released... hadn't seen it yet, so I thought I'd better watch it now before shutting down (stuff is hard to find at WS sometimes; have to grab it now while it's in front of me!).

So, I stumbled across something I had not seen... Maybe there are Monkeys who have already seen this, but I sure hadn't! 

Anyway, lo and behold, on Dominic Casey's site (dgator.com) he has posted Virginia psychic Ginette "Ginny" Lucas's phone records for 11/15/08, and his too... to prove that they were indeed on the phone that day.  I have no idea if this is newly posted by him, whether these are records that LE has; whether they've ever been released through discovery or maybe will be in the future... no idea, sorry.  I'm sure some smart Monk will find out.

So, here is a link.  Please Monkeys, see what you think... This was posted late last night on WS.  And according to these records, if they are accurate, he WAS on the phone w/her at the time.

http://dgator.com/Documents/Telephone%20Records%2011.15.08.pdf (http://dgator.com/Documents/Telephone%20Records%2011.15.08.pdf)

These calls could be a ruse as I posited earlier today when we discussed this... she and/or he could have been using other phones at the same time.. relays with other parties IYKWIM... or maybe it was pre-arranged for her to be the one with the "info" to pass on to Mr. Searcher P.I.  I don't know.

But these records, assuming they are not doctored, show they were talking together that day, around the time he was searching.

BTW, Ginny Lucas is a former Private Investigator according to her website.
Her Website:  http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html (http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html)

Do we know whether she or her dad ever knew Dominic or Hoover before this case broke?

Love ya Monkeys, I'm  ::MonkeyEek::  but I must get to sleeeeep before I keel over. zzzzzzz

Desi





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 10:49:39 PM
Oh, sorry: 

Link at WS>   http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4126045&postcount=516 (http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4126045&postcount=516)

Goodnight!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 06, 2009, 11:01:41 PM
Oh, sorry: 

Link at WS>   http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4126045&postcount=516 (http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4126045&postcount=516)

Goodnight!


Well, I have not seen these!!!!!!!!  WOW.  I bet he was talking to her and she was on a land line with someone else at the same time.  Upon quick glance, it looks like she calls his office.  Then the next call has been whited out - even where that call went to and that call lasted several minutes.  Then she calls his cell.  Hummmmmm makes you wonder why that call is whited out.  The one before calling his office is not whited out.  Did she call to get more details?  I hope they get the land line numbers she would have had access to, where this cell phone of her dads was pinging! 
Back to look at them more - or maybe tomorrow, I am wiped out!  Night monkeys, if I don't make it back. 
Oh, and you know what else I want to know..........  (LOL - no wonder I have issues sleeping, see what my mind is like! ) but Desi, you post reminded me......
From the new video - DC had a camera.  I HOPE LE has those pics he took! 

(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/LifeCoachOnTheCouch/dominic%20video/909DCcamera.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 11:04:34 PM
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=post;quote=934550;topic=5980.440;num_replies=545;sesc=0e38e82545a0f97d6b0ee702f3235070 (http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=post;quote=934550;topic=5980.440;num_replies=545;sesc=0e38e82545a0f97d6b0ee702f3235070)
This was me at 2:35 today.  Regarding Ginette Lucas and the calls w/Dominic.  Conspiracy, etc.

And a very smart WS'er (former Monkey?) said the same thing tonight!  GMTA...
From WS:  http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4129806&postcount=536 (http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4129806&postcount=536)

GFR!  *   

*Goodnight For Real!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on September 06, 2009, 11:14:17 PM
Regarding the wiretapping if it was done by Tracy and LP

http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/florida/florida-recording-law

Florida's wiretapping law is a "two-party consent" law. Florida makes it a crime to intercept or record a "wire, oral, or electronic communication" in Florida, unless all parties to the communication consent

Florida law makes an exception for in-person communications when the parties do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the conversation, such as when they are engaged in conversation in a public place where they might reasonably be overheard. If you are operating in Florida, you may record these kinds of in-person conversations without breaking the law. However, you should always get the consent of all parties before recording any telephone conversation and any in-person that common sense tells you is private.

In addition to subjecting you to criminal prosecution, violating the Florida wiretapping law can expose you to a civil lawsuit for damages by an injured party.

Okay the way I read this is it is against the law for Tracy and LP to wiretap what was said in the confines of the Anthony's house. So if they did do that without prior consent, then that could be why Tracy asked for immunity.

What I have highlighted in blue is how Commander Matt whats his name got around taping Cindy kevtching about Yuri. He took her to a public place, BBQ joint, so being in a public place it was legal for him to tape her.

I hope this makes sense. I am just throwing this out there.

JMO JSM   ::MonkeyBike::


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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 06, 2009, 11:15:15 PM
GRRRRRR  bad link.
Knew I should have just gone to bed.   ::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

This was my post from 2:35 today... hope this one works!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5980.msg934550#msg934550 (http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5980.msg934550#msg934550)

Sorry for the mess, goodnight for real, for real!!!




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 07, 2009, 12:13:20 AM
Hi all, am a day late and a dollar short on this topic.  Sorry I wasn't in when y'all were discussing this.  About the ladder.......

Just the way CinCin acted about the ladder makes me stop and wonder about it.  The way she hushed Casey from talking about it and all.  And I saw Greta's interview out in their back yard.  I remember thinking at the time that CinCin sure seemed rattled talking about the pool etc.  Am like those of you wondering if there's much more to the ladder in this case. 

I hate to even think of anymore possible scenarios for our sweet angel Caylee.... And so I type this with a heavy heart, even thinking about it. 

Could it be that Casey placed the duct tape, put her in the pool, and used the ladder to hold her down in the water?  She may have even left her that way and returned later, using the shovel to pull the ladder and body toward her.  She might not have wanted to climb into the water at that point. 

I keep going back to what she has said, that she is 'such a spiteful bitch'.  Her parents enjoyed swimming with Caylee, maybe it was another way to turn the screws on them? 

I dunno, just some thoughts...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2009, 01:52:22 AM
Hi all, am a day late and a dollar short on this topic.  Sorry I wasn't in when y'all were discussing this.  About the ladder.......

Just the way CinCin acted about the ladder makes me stop and wonder about it.  The way she hushed Casey from talking about it and all.  And I saw Greta's interview out in their back yard.  I remember thinking at the time that CinCin sure seemed rattled talking about the pool etc.  Am like those of you wondering if there's much more to the ladder in this case. 

I hate to even think of anymore possible scenarios for our sweet angel Caylee.... And so I type this with a heavy heart, even thinking about it. 

Could it be that Casey placed the duct tape, put her in the pool, and used the ladder to hold her down in the water?  She may have even left her that way and returned later, using the shovel to pull the ladder and body toward her.  She might not have wanted to climb into the water at that point. 

I keep going back to what she has said, that she is 'such a spiteful bitch'.  Her parents enjoyed swimming with Caylee, maybe it was another way to turn the screws on them? 

I dunno, just some thoughts...



Oh, Wyks, I hate to think of how Caylee died, too. I do think Casey's capable of what you posted. I so wish that Caylee's body had been found earlier, ad perhaps those answers would be known. I think Casey may just be one of those murderers that will never tell the truth about it. I just remind myself that God saw how and that He was one breath away for Caylee.  It's such a tragedy and so sad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 07, 2009, 02:03:19 AM
Hi all, am a day late and a dollar short on this topic.  Sorry I wasn't in when y'all were discussing this.  About the ladder.......

Just the way CinCin acted about the ladder makes me stop and wonder about it.  The way she hushed Casey from talking about it and all.  And I saw Greta's interview out in their back yard.  I remember thinking at the time that CinCin sure seemed rattled talking about the pool etc.  Am like those of you wondering if there's much more to the ladder in this case. 

I hate to even think of anymore possible scenarios for our sweet angel Caylee.... And so I type this with a heavy heart, even thinking about it. 

Could it be that Casey placed the duct tape, put her in the pool, and used the ladder to hold her down in the water?  She may have even left her that way and returned later, using the shovel to pull the ladder and body toward her.  She might not have wanted to climb into the water at that point. 

I keep going back to what she has said, that she is 'such a spiteful bitch'.  Her parents enjoyed swimming with Caylee, maybe it was another way to turn the screws on them? 

I dunno, just some thoughts...



O.k., shouldn't do this, but wanted to check in one last time before bed.  Wyks, I had a similar thought a day or two ago about the pool as a message to CA & GA.  I'll be the first to say I  purposefully avoid considering scenarios about means of death.  IF CA & GA are telling the truth about the ladder, I do think Casey left it on purpose.  IMO, she was playing a cat 'n mouse/hide 'n seek kind of game..."I'm here, but you can't catch me", "I/We have been here."  (similar to the kind of game stalkers play).  The reasons I think this are because (IF the ladder story can be believed): she left the ladder down, knowing full well their safety concerns; she left Caylee's swimsuit at a male friend's house, knowing full well it would be returned to a confused/already worried Cindy.  It's almost like she was baiting Cindy.  I would almost bet she left other "clues" each time she'd take Caylee to the house while the A's were at work, just to let them know she'd been there (toys out of place, things deliberately moved, things in the dirty clothes maybe, etc.).  A control issue, with Caylee as the bait, is how I perceive it.  Clearly, Casey had issues with authority, self-control, lying, stealing, cheating, control, revenge, and death.  On needs to look no farther than the party pics and her photobucket.  IMO, there was a physical confrontation with Cindy on June 15th, followed by Casey licking her wounds and briefly planning her vendetta.  I personally think she suffocated Caylee with the tape, applied the sticker and wrapped the body in the comforter, carried the body out in the laundry bag, and stored it in the trunk temporarily while she met up with Tony. Next day she came home, pulled into the garage and borrowed the shovel, planning to bury Caylee in the backyard.  When that failed, she cleaned the shovel and returned it, put the package back in the car, drove to the woods, backed in as close as she could, and just tossed the package.  Of course, I could be wrong.  LOL!
I can't see her staying at the A's after the fight though.  I don't see Casey having a lot of impulse control (per the 1st phone call home to Cindy=venomous, August jail videos with Cindy).  I also know fighting on any level, much less physically is extremely traumatic to toddlers and can't imagine Casey having the patience/concern/love to calm or comfort a most-likely hysterical Caylee.  I'm sure she wouldn't have been able to deal with CA & GA, plus Caylee too.  Equally sure, she wouldn't have welcomed Cindy's "interferrence" either on Caylee's behalf.  IMO, she took Caylee and left.  Maybe snuck back in after Cindy went to work, maybe not.  George did not see them at all, IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 07, 2009, 02:06:47 AM
CBB-keep forgetting to tell you, but I like Betty's new look and her scenery!  How oh-so-stylish she looks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 07, 2009, 02:08:11 AM
O.k., really leaving this time!  Just realized I have some research I forgot to do!  Uuuuuuh!  Hope you all have a good night!  Take care!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 07, 2009, 02:22:03 AM
August 24, 2009 Notice of Provision of Supplemental Discovery 

(http://i29.tinypic.com/2wrhyd5.jpg)

So, did we get all of what's listed here in the last doc dump?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BluesyGram on September 07, 2009, 03:52:35 AM
SeeMe..I say no we didn't.  Maybe the media thinks we wouldn't be interested in some of it that says Proficiency Test, SOP stuff.  I got excited when I saw 'fingerprint' (because I want to see the test that they did for KC's fingerprint on that duct tape!!!!!!) till I saw it was a procedure report.

Can someone help me with a link for Hoover's video?  I cannot find it on any of the darn sites..(and yes I had my glasses on).

TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 07, 2009, 06:55:18 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.  (http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j120/Bearlyhere/monkey-cart.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 07, 2009, 07:07:45 AM
SeeMe..I say no we didn't.  Maybe the media thinks we wouldn't be interested in some of it that says Proficiency Test, SOP stuff.  I got excited when I saw 'fingerprint' (because I want to see the test that they did for KC's fingerprint on that duct tape!!!!!!) till I saw it was a procedure report.

Can someone help me with a link for Hoover's video?  I cannot find it on any of the darn sites..(and yes I had my glasses on).

TIA

http://www.wesh.com/video/20728364/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cherjers on September 07, 2009, 08:16:45 AM
<self-snip>But Casey and the family are certainly not normal.  They are both a couple all a bunch of real "head cases," and we can't count on their behavior ever falling within any kind of norm... so who knows??  I thought your post was a good one.  Very thoughtftul thoughtful and thought-provoking.
(oops, self-edit above, from previous post)
  I think it is a possible it was an accident-here is the BUT at first you might try to hide it and make a story up  BUT you would feel GUILY and be SICK at heart at what happend-KC went out to bars -lived the good life- showed NO remorse.  She could have grived for the loss of her child and everyone would have thought it was because Caylee was missing.  Could have been accidntal-but in KC case I still say she deseves the DP-I would not say this of any other mother who lost a child by an accident--I would say this poor mother will spent the rest of her life living with what happend-that is punishment enough.  So accpdent or not with KC it really does not matter me-she is heartless. 
P.S  DES  I really enjoy all your post--and I agree with you could have been an accident


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cherjers on September 07, 2009, 08:31:53 AM
 As far as Leonard goes --If it wasnt for him we would not have Tracey or Robs take on KC Lee-George and Sin SIN.  He went out here put his own money up to try and find Caylee. When he met KC he knew Caylee was dead.  He may love the media and the spotlight but he has done alot for this case.  He may act like a fool but he is far from a fool---Tony P on the other hand did not do anything-now he wants in-yes he put up the Bond but Lenny paid the 50,000.  If it was not for Lenny TonyP would never haved bailed KC out--so why the smear on Lenny-what is Tony P problem ::MonkeyMad::  When does a bail bondmen get involed in a case-Never.  Think of all the high profile case --have youever heard from the company that put up the bail-NO Lenny is a bounty hunter-he looks for people -- he thought he could find Caylee .


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cherjers on September 07, 2009, 09:08:15 AM
Hi all, am a day late and a dollar short on this topic.  Sorry I wasn't in when y'all were discussing this.  About the ladder.......

Just the way CinCin acted about the ladder makes me stop and wonder about it.  The way she hushed Casey from talking about it and all.  And I saw Greta's interview out in their back yard.  I remember thinking at the time that CinCin sure seemed rattled talking about the pool etc.  Am like those of you wondering if there's much more to the ladder in this case. 

I hate to even think of anymore possible scenarios for our sweet angel Caylee.... And so I type this with a heavy heart, even thinking about it. 

Could it be that Casey placed the duct tape, put her in the pool, and used the ladder to hold her down in the water?  She may have even left her that way and returned later, using the shovel to pull the ladder and body toward her.  She might not have wanted to climb into the water at that point. 

I keep going back to what she has said, that she is 'such a spiteful bitch'.  Her parents enjoyed swimming with Caylee, maybe it was another way to turn the screws on them? 

I dunno, just some thoughts...


  It could have happend like that-poor caylee   I hope you are wrong.  I hope Caylee was overdoesed and just went to sleep. That poor baby-I wouldnt want her to know that the one person in all the world that should have loved her more then anything in the world -was hurting her ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cherjers on September 07, 2009, 09:33:40 AM
Regarding the wiretapping if it was done by Tracy and LP

http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/florida/florida-recording-law

Florida's wiretapping law is a "two-party consent" law. Florida makes it a crime to intercept or record a "wire, oral, or electronic communication" in Florida, unless all parties to the communication consent

Florida law makes an exception for in-person communications when the parties do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the conversation, such as when they are engaged in conversation in a public place where they might reasonably be overheard. If you are operating in Florida, you may record these kinds of in-person conversations without breaking the law. However, you should always get the consent of all parties before recording any telephone conversation and any in-person that common sense tells you is private.

In addition to subjecting you to criminal prosecution, violating the Florida wiretapping law can expose you to a civil lawsuit for damages by an injured party.

Okay the way I read this is it is against the law for Tracy and LP to wiretap what was said in the confines of the Anthony's house. So if they did do that without prior consent, then that could be why Tracy asked for immunity.

What I have highlighted in blue is how Commander Matt whats his name got around taping Cindy kevtching about Yuri. He took her to a public place, BBQ joint, so being in a public place it was legal for him to tape her.

I hope this makes sense. I am just throwing this out there.

JMO JSM   ::MonkeyBike::


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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 07, 2009, 09:49:48 AM
As far as Leonard goes --If it wasnt for him we would not have Tracey or Robs take on KC Lee-George and Sin SIN.  He went out here put his own money up to try and find Caylee. When he met KC he knew Caylee was dead.  He may love the media and the spotlight but he has done alot for this case.  He may act like a fool but he is far from a fool---Tony P on the other hand did not do anything-now he wants in-yes he put up the Bond but Lenny paid the 50,000.  If it was not for Lenny TonyP would never haved bailed KC out--so why the smear on Lenny-what is Tony P problem ::MonkeyMad::  When does a bail bondmen get involed in a case-Never.  Think of all the high profile case --have youever heard from the company that put up the bail-NO Lenny is a bounty hunter-he looks for people -- he thought he could find Caylee .
A bail bondsmen would only get involved in a case, when he is maybe promised money and other perks, otherwise I don't see it either.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 07, 2009, 10:03:05 AM
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=post;quote=934550;topic=5980.440;num_replies=545;sesc=0e38e82545a0f97d6b0ee702f3235070 (http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=post;quote=934550;topic=5980.440;num_replies=545;sesc=0e38e82545a0f97d6b0ee702f3235070)
This was me at 2:35 today.  Regarding Ginette Lucas and the calls w/Dominic.  Conspiracy, etc.

And a very smart WS'er (former Monkey?) said the same thing tonight!  GMTA...
From WS:  http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4129806&postcount=536 (http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4129806&postcount=536)

GFR!  *   

*Goodnight For Real!

Thanks, now that was something I didn't think about, a map inside the teddy bear, smart thinking.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 07, 2009, 10:21:09 AM
Happy Labor Day, Monkeys!  Hope everyone is enjoying their long weekend.   ::MonkeyJnBox::

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 07, 2009, 10:45:04 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20773704/detail.html
Two Hearings Scheduled In Anthony Civil Case
Zenaida Gonzalez Says Anthony Ruined Her Reputation

POSTED: 10:16 am EDT September 7, 2009
UPDATED: 10:28 am EDT September 7, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- There are two hearings scheduled this week in the civil case against Casey Anthony.

Zenaida Gonzalez -- the woman who claims Casey ruined her reputation by saying someone with her name abducted Caylee Anthony -- is pursuing the case.

On Tuesday, Anthony's lawyers will file a renewed motion to get the complaint dismissed. In the second hearing on Wednesday, Zenaida's attorneys will attempt to get Cindy and George Anthony to answer more questions.

They refused to answer certain questions during an earlier deposition.

Casey Anthony is in the Orange County jail charged with murder in the death of her daughter Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 07, 2009, 10:57:31 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20773704/detail.html
Two Hearings Scheduled In Anthony Civil Case
Zenaida Gonzalez Says Anthony Ruined Her Reputation

POSTED: 10:16 am EDT September 7, 2009
UPDATED: 10:28 am EDT September 7, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- There are two hearings scheduled this week in the civil case against Casey Anthony.

Zenaida Gonzalez -- the woman who claims Casey ruined her reputation by saying someone with her name abducted Caylee Anthony -- is pursuing the case.

On Tuesday, Anthony's lawyers will file a renewed motion to get the complaint dismissed. In the second hearing on Wednesday, Zenaida's attorneys will attempt to get Cindy and George Anthony to answer more questions.

They refused to answer certain questions during an earlier deposition.

Casey Anthony is in the Orange County jail charged with murder in the death of her daughter Caylee.
Thanks Trimm  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 07, 2009, 11:26:22 AM
Thank you Trimm.   ::MonkeyAngel::

(I Love your new avi!)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 07, 2009, 11:42:08 AM
Happy Labor Day Monkeys!!

I just got back from my trip and I'm trying to get caught up, but about the shovel being used in the pool......wouldn't there be traces of pool chemicals somewhere on the shovel, mainly the wooden handle, that would have showed up under testing? Also, for some reason, I'm thinking the shovel was returned to the neighbor after they did run tests on it, can anyone confirm this?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: monkalicious on September 07, 2009, 12:59:37 PM
Did anyone ever find the actual red heart sticker that was placed on the duct tape?  I know the imprint of the adhesive was there, and they were trying to match it with the sticker sheet at the A's, but I was thinking about something.  If Caylee drowned, with the duct tape on, sticker in place, could it have fallen by the pool, discovered by Cindy on the 3rd of July, perhaps?  I just don't remember if the sticker itself was ever found. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2009, 01:06:04 PM
Did anyone ever find the actual red heart sticker that was placed on the duct tape?  I know the imprint of the adhesive was there, and they were trying to match it with the sticker sheet at the A's, but I was thinking about something.  If Caylee drowned, with the duct tape on, sticker in place, could it have fallen by the pool, discovered by Cindy on the 3rd of July, perhaps?  I just don't remember if the sticker itself was ever found. 

Pretty sure the sticker itself was found.  Let me find the picture


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: klaasend on September 07, 2009, 01:13:44 PM
Did anyone ever find the actual red heart sticker that was placed on the duct tape?  I know the imprint of the adhesive was there, and they were trying to match it with the sticker sheet at the A's, but I was thinking about something.  If Caylee drowned, with the duct tape on, sticker in place, could it have fallen by the pool, discovered by Cindy on the 3rd of July, perhaps?  I just don't remember if the sticker itself was ever found. 

Pretty sure the sticker itself was found.  Let me find the picture

Yes, here is the pic:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/hearttape2.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/hearttape.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BluesyGram on September 07, 2009, 01:30:13 PM
SeeMe..I say no we didn't.  Maybe the media thinks we wouldn't be interested in some of it that says Proficiency Test, SOP stuff.  I got excited when I saw 'fingerprint' (because I want to see the test that they did for KC's fingerprint on that duct tape!!!!!!) till I saw it was a procedure report.

Can someone help me with a link for Hoover's video?  I cannot find it on any of the darn sites..(and yes I had my glasses on).

TIA

http://www.wesh.com/video/20728364/index.html


Thanks so much Trimm...you da bestest.... ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 07, 2009, 01:32:35 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20773704/detail.html
Two Hearings Scheduled In Anthony Civil Case
Zenaida Gonzalez Says Anthony Ruined Her Reputation

POSTED: 10:16 am EDT September 7, 2009
UPDATED: 12:19 pm EDT September 7, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- There are two hearings scheduled this week in the civil case against Casey Anthony.

Zenaida Gonzalez -- the woman who claims Casey ruined her reputation by saying someone with her name abducted Caylee Anthony -- is pursuing the case.

Casey Anthony is in the Orange County jail charged with murder in the death of her daughter Caylee.

On Tuesday, Anthony's lawyers will file a renewed motion to get the complaint dismissed. In the second hearing on Wednesday, Zenaida's attorneys will attempt to get Cindy and George Anthony to answer more questions.

They refused to answer certain questions during an earlier deposition. In April, Cindy Anthony refused to answer whether her daughter had used their credit cards without permission. Gonzalez' team wants to establish Casey didn't have the money to pay for a babysitter.

George Anthony refused to answer a number of questions during the depositions and repeatedly threatened to walk out of the sessions. He refused to answer whether Casey Anthony stole from them -- earlier he told an FBI agent she stole from all of them and took money from Caylee's piggy bank. He would also not disclose what information relevant to Gonzalez an investigator discovered while working for him and his wife.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 07, 2009, 02:12:09 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20773704/detail.html
Two Hearings Scheduled In Anthony Civil Case
Zenaida Gonzalez Says Anthony Ruined Her Reputation

POSTED: 10:16 am EDT September 7, 2009
UPDATED: 12:19 pm EDT September 7, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- There are two hearings scheduled this week in the civil case against Casey Anthony.

Zenaida Gonzalez -- the woman who claims Casey ruined her reputation by saying someone with her name abducted Caylee Anthony -- is pursuing the case.

Casey Anthony is in the Orange County jail charged with murder in the death of her daughter Caylee.

On Tuesday, Anthony's lawyers will file a renewed motion to get the complaint dismissed. In the second hearing on Wednesday, Zenaida's attorneys will attempt to get Cindy and George Anthony to answer more questions.

They refused to answer certain questions during an earlier deposition. In April, Cindy Anthony refused to answer whether her daughter had used their credit cards without permission. Gonzalez' team wants to establish Casey didn't have the money to pay for a babysitter.

George Anthony refused to answer a number of questions during the depositions and repeatedly threatened to walk out of the sessions. He refused to answer whether Casey Anthony stole from them -- earlier he told an FBI agent she stole from all of them and took money from Caylee's piggy bank. He would also not disclose what information relevant to Gonzalez an investigator discovered while working for him and his wife.


Thanks Trimm! Oh, I hope Stan's the man on this one! I want them to answer the questions!!! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 07, 2009, 02:54:35 PM
As far as Leonard goes --If it wasnt for him we would not have Tracey or Robs take on KC Lee-George and Sin SIN.  He went out here put his own money up to try and find Caylee. When he met KC he knew Caylee was dead.  He may love the media and the spotlight but he has done alot for this case.  He may act like a fool but he is far from a fool---Tony P on the other hand did not do anything-now he wants in-yes he put up the Bond but Lenny paid the 50,000.  If it was not for Lenny TonyP would never haved bailed KC out--so why the smear on Lenny-what is Tony P problem ::MonkeyMad::  When does a bail bondmen get involed in a case-Never.  Think of all the high profile case --have youever heard from the company that put up the bail-NO Lenny is a bounty hunter-he looks for people -- he thought he could find Caylee .

Good Afternoon Monkeys. I hope everyone is enjoying their Labor Day holiday.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I'm going to sit on the branch with you on this one. Lenny being in Orlando has been a double edged sword, but for the most part, I think the benefits outweighs the bad.

I have another question about the bond in September though. When  she was bonded out, it was said she was being bonded by an unknown benefactor. I know two bail bonding companies went together to make that big a bond, but who put up the initial money to do it? Did we ever find out?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 07, 2009, 02:58:48 PM
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=post;quote=934550;topic=5980.440;num_replies=545;sesc=0e38e82545a0f97d6b0ee702f3235070 (http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=post;quote=934550;topic=5980.440;num_replies=545;sesc=0e38e82545a0f97d6b0ee702f3235070)
This was me at 2:35 today.  Regarding Ginette Lucas and the calls w/Dominic.  Conspiracy, etc.

And a very smart WS'er (former Monkey?) said the same thing tonight!  GMTA...
From WS:  http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4129806&postcount=536 (http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4129806&postcount=536)

GFR!  *   

*Goodnight For Real!


Wow - interesting - just what was that bear stuffed with and where is it now? 

Former PI - now psychic..........so, not psychic enough to be a successful PI?  What do we know about her?  Has this been discussed before - if so, can someone point me to what we found out about her and her past and current "career."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on September 07, 2009, 03:01:00 PM
As far as Leonard goes --If it wasnt for him we would not have Tracey or Robs take on KC Lee-George and Sin SIN.  He went out here put his own money up to try and find Caylee. When he met KC he knew Caylee was dead.  He may love the media and the spotlight but he has done alot for this case.  He may act like a fool but he is far from a fool---Tony P on the other hand did not do anything-now he wants in-yes he put up the Bond but Lenny paid the 50,000.  If it was not for Lenny TonyP would never haved bailed KC out--so why the smear on Lenny-what is Tony P problem ::MonkeyMad::  When does a bail bondmen get involed in a case-Never.  Think of all the high profile case --have youever heard from the company that put up the bail-NO Lenny is a bounty hunter-he looks for people -- he thought he could find Caylee .

Good Afternoon Monkeys. I hope everyone is enjoying their Labor Day holiday.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I'm going to sit on the branch with you on this one. Lenny being in Orlando has been a double edged sword, but for the most part, I think the benefits outweighs the bad.

I have another question about the bond in September though. When  she was bonded out, it was said she was being bonded by an unknown benefactor. I know two bail bonding companies went together to make that big a bond, but who put up the initial money to do it? Did we ever find out?


snipped

Bond documents show that George and Cindy Anthony put up the collateral to obtain their daughter's freedom. The paperwork did not explain the source of the collateral but said the couple signed off on a "promissory note indemnity agreement" -- essentially a contract that requires the parents to repay the bondsman for any losses.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-caylee0508sep05,0,7306870.story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 07, 2009, 03:13:18 PM
As far as Leonard goes --If it wasnt for him we would not have Tracey or Robs take on KC Lee-George and Sin SIN.  He went out here put his own money up to try and find Caylee. When he met KC he knew Caylee was dead.  He may love the media and the spotlight but he has done alot for this case.  He may act like a fool but he is far from a fool---Tony P on the other hand did not do anything-now he wants in-yes he put up the Bond but Lenny paid the 50,000.  If it was not for Lenny TonyP would never haved bailed KC out--so why the smear on Lenny-what is Tony P problem ::MonkeyMad::  When does a bail bondmen get involed in a case-Never.  Think of all the high profile case --have youever heard from the company that put up the bail-NO Lenny is a bounty hunter-he looks for people -- he thought he could find Caylee .

Good Afternoon Monkeys. I hope everyone is enjoying their Labor Day holiday.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I'm going to sit on the branch with you on this one. Lenny being in Orlando has been a double edged sword, but for the most part, I think the benefits outweighs the bad.

I have another question about the bond in September though. When  she was bonded out, it was said she was being bonded by an unknown benefactor. I know two bail bonding companies went together to make that big a bond, but who put up the initial money to do it? Did we ever find out?


snipped

Bond documents show that George and Cindy Anthony put up the collateral to obtain their daughter's freedom. The paperwork did not explain the source of the collateral but said the couple signed off on a "promissory note indemnity agreement" -- essentially a contract that requires the parents to repay the bondsman for any losses.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-caylee0508sep05,0,7306870.story

Thanks. I think I may have heard that before, but I sure had forgotten it!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on September 07, 2009, 03:16:35 PM
As far as Leonard goes --If it wasnt for him we would not have Tracey or Robs take on KC Lee-George and Sin SIN.  He went out here put his own money up to try and find Caylee. When he met KC he knew Caylee was dead.  He may love the media and the spotlight but he has done alot for this case.  He may act like a fool but he is far from a fool---Tony P on the other hand did not do anything-now he wants in-yes he put up the Bond but Lenny paid the 50,000.  If it was not for Lenny TonyP would never haved bailed KC out--so why the smear on Lenny-what is Tony P problem ::MonkeyMad::  When does a bail bondmen get involed in a case-Never.  Think of all the high profile case --have youever heard from the company that put up the bail-NO Lenny is a bounty hunter-he looks for people -- he thought he could find Caylee .

Good Afternoon Monkeys. I hope everyone is enjoying their Labor Day holiday.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I'm going to sit on the branch with you on this one. Lenny being in Orlando has been a double edged sword, but for the most part, I think the benefits outweighs the bad.

I have another question about the bond in September though. When  she was bonded out, it was said she was being bonded by an unknown benefactor. I know two bail bonding companies went together to make that big a bond, but who put up the initial money to do it? Did we ever find out?


snipped

Bond documents show that George and Cindy Anthony put up the collateral to obtain their daughter's freedom. The paperwork did not explain the source of the collateral but said the couple signed off on a "promissory note indemnity agreement" -- essentially a contract that requires the parents to repay the bondsman for any losses.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-caylee0508sep05,0,7306870.story

Thanks. I think I may have heard that before, but I sure had forgotten it!


Now I have a question. Does that mean they didn't even have to pay the 10% normally due? If so, I wonder why the special treatment by the bailbond company. I'm sick of them getting special treatment!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 07, 2009, 03:20:37 PM



Now I have a question. Does that mean they didn't even have to pay the 10% normally due? If so, I wonder why the special treatment by the bailbond company. I'm sick of them getting special treatment!!

Another question is, what happened to that promissary note when she was arrest for Murder? The bond would have been revoked at that time. So they should still owe the bonding company, if I am not very mistaken.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on September 07, 2009, 03:28:38 PM



Now I have a question. Does that mean they didn't even have to pay the 10% normally due? If so, I wonder why the special treatment by the bailbond company. I'm sick of them getting special treatment!!

Another question is, what happened to that promissary note when she was arrest for Murder? The bond would have been revoked at that time. So they should still owe the bonding company, if I am not very mistaken.




The promissary note would be for collateral for the entire amount if she would have run away. No way did those grifters have any collateral when this mess started.
Either way, it seems they would owe the 10%, usually paid up front,  just as the regular charge made by the bailbond company. I can guess where they might have gotten the blood money for that.(Now I'm wondering if the bondsman would take a book or movie contract as collateral)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BluesyGram on September 07, 2009, 03:31:55 PM
As far as Leonard goes --If it wasnt for him we would not have Tracey or Robs take on KC Lee-George and Sin SIN.  He went out here put his own money up to try and find Caylee. When he met KC he knew Caylee was dead.  He may love the media and the spotlight but he has done alot for this case.  He may act like a fool but he is far from a fool---Tony P on the other hand did not do anything-now he wants in-yes he put up the Bond but Lenny paid the 50,000.  If it was not for Lenny TonyP would never haved bailed KC out--so why the smear on Lenny-what is Tony P problem ::MonkeyMad::  When does a bail bondmen get involed in a case-Never.  Think of all the high profile case --have youever heard from the company that put up the bail-NO Lenny is a bounty hunter-he looks for people -- he thought he could find Caylee .

Good Afternoon Monkeys. I hope everyone is enjoying their Labor Day holiday.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I'm going to sit on the branch with you on this one. Lenny being in Orlando has been a double edged sword, but for the most part, I think the benefits outweighs the bad.

I have another question about the bond in September though. When  she was bonded out, it was said she was being bonded by an unknown benefactor. I know two bail bonding companies went together to make that big a bond, but who put up the initial money to do it? Did we ever find out?


snipped

Bond documents show that George and Cindy Anthony put up the collateral to obtain their daughter's freedom. The paperwork did not explain the source of the collateral but said the couple signed off on a "promissory note indemnity agreement" -- essentially a contract that requires the parents to repay the bondsman for any losses.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-caylee0508sep05,0,7306870.story

Thanks. I think I may have heard that before, but I sure had forgotten it!


Now I have a question. Does that mean they didn't even have to pay the 10% normally due? If so, I wonder why the special treatment by the bailbond company. I'm sick of them getting special treatment!!


I call BS that this happened this way.  You can only sign a collateral bond if you have assets for the entire bond.  This means that they would have to have assets that equaled to $500,000..(and we know they don't).   In that case, you wouldn't go through a bonding company...you would go through the courts DIRECTLY and put up the collateral.   You can't use collateral of only the 10% of the bond...that means you have to put up CASH OF $50,000 (just like Padilla had to come up with).  Bonding companies would go out of business real quick if this was the way it could be done.  I would venture an opinion that one of the broadcasting stations secretly put up the $50,000 and didn't want the public's backlash.  My opinion only...just using common sense.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2009, 03:33:20 PM



Now I have a question. Does that mean they didn't even have to pay the 10% normally due? If so, I wonder why the special treatment by the bailbond company. I'm sick of them getting special treatment!!

Another question is, what happened to that promissary note when she was arrest for Murder? The bond would have been revoked at that time. So they should still owe the bonding company, if I am not very mistaken.




The promissary note would be for collateral for the entire amount if she would have run away. No way did those grifters have any collateral when this mess started.
Either way, it seems they would owe the 10%, usually paid up front,  just as the regular charge made by the bailbond company. I can guess where they might have gotten the blood money for that.(Now I'm wondering if the bondsman would take a book or movie contract as collateral)
Happy Labor Day Monkeys

Lenny Padilla paid the 10% the first time(50,000)and from what Tony Padilla is posting at WS,Lenny is out the 50,000.If Lenny is out 50,000 then why aren't the anthonys or whoever also out 50,000?I'm not understanding bonds and bail I think.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 07, 2009, 03:35:10 PM
Question from JSM...

Wasn't there a "bondsman" or somesuch riding in a truck or something when KC was arrested under the bridge and Cindy was driving so crazy?

Or am I losing my mind again? TIA JSM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 07, 2009, 03:42:39 PM
Question from JSM...

Wasn't there a "bondsman" or somesuch riding in a truck or something when KC was arrested under the bridge and Cindy was driving so crazy?

Or am I losing my mind again? TIA JSM

No, you're not losing your mind. She was trying to, or did, get into the vehicle with him when she was arrested.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 07, 2009, 03:46:06 PM
Question from JSM...

Wasn't there a "bondsman" or somesuch riding in a truck or something when KC was arrested under the bridge and Cindy was driving so crazy?

Or am I losing my mind again? TIA JSM

No, you're not losing your mind. She was trying to, or did, get into the vehicle with him when she was arrested.

That's right Miss FannyMae.Here is the article. 
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/10/14/caylee.grand.jury/index.html?iref=mpstoryview


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on September 07, 2009, 03:48:13 PM



Now I have a question. Does that mean they didn't even have to pay the 10% normally due? If so, I wonder why the special treatment by the bailbond company. I'm sick of them getting special treatment!!

Another question is, what happened to that promissary note when she was arrest for Murder? The bond would have been revoked at that time. So they should still owe the bonding company, if I am not very mistaken.




The promissary note would be for collateral for the entire amount if she would have run away. No way did those grifters have any collateral when this mess started.
Either way, it seems they would owe the 10%, usually paid up front,  just as the regular charge made by the bailbond company. I can guess where they might have gotten the blood money for that.(Now I'm wondering if the bondsman would take a book or movie contract as collateral)
Happy Labor Day Monkeys

Lenny Padilla paid the 10% the first time(50,000)and from what Tony Padilla is posting at WS,Lenny is out the 50,000.If Lenny is out 50,000 then why aren't the anthonys or whoever also out 50,000?I'm not understanding bonds and bail I think.



That's my understanding too. Somebody has got to pay the 50,000 for the bond co to put up the 500,000.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: joesamas mama on September 07, 2009, 04:00:20 PM
Question from JSM...

Wasn't there a "bondsman" or somesuch riding in a truck or something when KC was arrested under the bridge and Cindy was driving so crazy?

Or am I losing my mind again? TIA JSM

No, you're not losing your mind. She was trying to, or did, get into the vehicle with him when she was arrested.
Thanks, I thought that was what happened.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: karenmamo on September 07, 2009, 04:03:03 PM
As far as Leonard goes --If it wasnt for him we would not have Tracey or Robs take on KC Lee-George and Sin SIN.  He went out here put his own money up to try and find Caylee. When he met KC he knew Caylee was dead.  He may love the media and the spotlight but he has done alot for this case.  He may act like a fool but he is far from a fool---Tony P on the other hand did not do anything-now he wants in-yes he put up the Bond but Lenny paid the 50,000.  If it was not for Lenny TonyP would never haved bailed KC out--so why the smear on Lenny-what is Tony P problem ::MonkeyMad::  When does a bail bondmen get involed in a case-Never.  Think of all the high profile case --have youever heard from the company that put up the bail-NO Lenny is a bounty hunter-he looks for people -- he thought he could find Caylee .

Good Afternoon Monkeys. I hope everyone is enjoying their Labor Day holiday.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I'm going to sit on the branch with you on this one. Lenny being in Orlando has been a double edged sword, but for the most part, I think the benefits outweighs the bad.

I have another question about the bond in September though. When  she was bonded out, it was said she was being bonded by an unknown benefactor. I know two bail bonding companies went together to make that big a bond, but who put up the initial money to do it? Did we ever find out?


snipped

Bond documents show that George and Cindy Anthony put up the collateral to obtain their daughter's freedom. The paperwork did not explain the source of the collateral but said the couple signed off on a "promissory note indemnity agreement" -- essentially a contract that requires the parents to repay the bondsman for any losses.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-caylee0508sep05,0,7306870.story

Thanks. I think I may have heard that before, but I sure had forgotten it!


Now I have a question. Does that mean they didn't even have to pay the 10% normally due? If so, I wonder why the special treatment by the bailbond company. I'm sick of them getting special treatment!!


I call BS that this happened this way.  You can only sign a collateral bond if you have assets for the entire bond.  This means that they would have to have assets that equaled to $500,000..(and we know they don't).   In that case, you wouldn't go through a bonding company...you would go through the courts DIRECTLY and put up the collateral.   You can't use collateral of only the 10% of the bond...that means you have to put up CASH OF $50,000 (just like Padilla had to come up with).  Bonding companies would go out of business real quick if this was the way it could be done.  I would venture an opinion that one of the broadcasting stations secretly put up the $50,000 and didn't want the public's backlash.  My opinion only...just using common sense.


Bluesy..my common sense is agreeing with yours.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2009, 04:04:06 PM
http://www.wesh.com/video/20728364/index.html

Right at the 47 second mark in the video above,is Tracy M. sitting in the back of a SUV with Lenny.I can't screen capture it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 07, 2009, 04:08:51 PM
Question from JSM...

Wasn't there a "bondsman" or somesuch riding in a truck or something when KC was arrested under the bridge and Cindy was driving so crazy?

Or am I losing my mind again? TIA JSM

No, you're not losing your mind. She was trying to, or did, get into the vehicle with him when she was arrested.

That's right Miss FannyMae.Here is the article. 
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/10/14/caylee.grand.jury/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

Thanks Miss Trimm.  ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BluesyGram on September 07, 2009, 04:21:35 PM
As far as Leonard goes --If it wasnt for him we would not have Tracey or Robs take on KC Lee-George and Sin SIN.  He went out here put his own money up to try and find Caylee. When he met KC he knew Caylee was dead.  He may love the media and the spotlight but he has done alot for this case.  He may act like a fool but he is far from a fool---Tony P on the other hand did not do anything-now he wants in-yes he put up the Bond but Lenny paid the 50,000.  If it was not for Lenny TonyP would never haved bailed KC out--so why the smear on Lenny-what is Tony P problem ::MonkeyMad::  When does a bail bondmen get involed in a case-Never.  Think of all the high profile case --have youever heard from the company that put up the bail-NO Lenny is a bounty hunter-he looks for people -- he thought he could find Caylee .

Good Afternoon Monkeys. I hope everyone is enjoying their Labor Day holiday.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I'm going to sit on the branch with you on this one. Lenny being in Orlando has been a double edged sword, but for the most part, I think the benefits outweighs the bad.

I have another question about the bond in September though. When  she was bonded out, it was said she was being bonded by an unknown benefactor. I know two bail bonding companies went together to make that big a bond, but who put up the initial money to do it? Did we ever find out?


snipped

Bond documents show that George and Cindy Anthony put up the collateral to obtain their daughter's freedom. The paperwork did not explain the source of the collateral but said the couple signed off on a "promissory note indemnity agreement" -- essentially a contract that requires the parents to repay the bondsman for any losses.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-caylee0508sep05,0,7306870.story

Thanks. I think I may have heard that before, but I sure had forgotten it!


Now I have a question. Does that mean they didn't even have to pay the 10% normally due? If so, I wonder why the special treatment by the bailbond company. I'm sick of them getting special treatment!!


I call BS that this happened this way.  You can only sign a collateral bond if you have assets for the entire bond.  This means that they would have to have assets that equaled to $500,000..(and we know they don't).   In that case, you wouldn't go through a bonding company...you would go through the courts DIRECTLY and put up the collateral.   You can't use collateral of only the 10% of the bond...that means you have to put up CASH OF $50,000 (just like Padilla had to come up with).  Bonding companies would go out of business real quick if this was the way it could be done.  I would venture an opinion that one of the broadcasting stations secretly put up the $50,000 and didn't want the public's backlash.  My opinion only...just using common sense.


Bluesy..my common sense is agreeing with yours.

Thanks Karen....that is something the A's don't have.   ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 07, 2009, 04:37:39 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20773704/detail.html
Two Hearings Scheduled In Anthony Civil Case
Zenaida Gonzalez Says Anthony Ruined Her Reputation

POSTED: 10:16 am EDT September 7, 2009
UPDATED: 4:21 pm EDT September 7, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- There are two hearings scheduled this week in the civil case against Casey Anthony.

Zenaida Gonzalez -- the woman who claims Casey ruined her reputation by saying someone with her name abducted Caylee Anthony -- is pursuing the case.

Casey Anthony is in the Orange County jail charged with murder in the death of her daughter Caylee.

On Tuesday, Anthony's lawyers will file a renewed motion to get the complaint dismissed or delayed until Anthony's death penalty case is over. In the second hearing on Wednesday, Zenaida's attorneys will attempt to get Cindy and George Anthony to answer more questions.

They refused to answer certain questions during an earlier deposition. In April, Cindy Anthony refused to answer whether her daughter had used their credit cards without permission. Gonzalez' team wants to establish Casey didn't have the money to pay for a babysitter.

George Anthony refused to answer a number of questions during the depositions and repeatedly threatened to walk out of the sessions. He refused to answer whether Casey Anthony stole from them -- earlier he told an FBI agent she stole from all of them and took money from Caylee's piggy bank. He would also not disclose what information relevant to Gonzalez an investigator discovered while working for him and his wife.
Defense attorney Richard Hornsby said he thinks the judge will tell Gonzalez's attorney to move on with the case.

"It's obvious Zenaida Gonzalez doesn't exist so they need to move on to proving she doesn't exist and securing whatever the damages are," he said.

Sources also told WESH 2 News that Gonzalez's attorneys considered suing Cindy Anthony for allegedly repeating libelous statements she knew were incorrect, but decided against that action.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 07, 2009, 04:47:40 PM
http://www.wesh.com/video/20728364/index.html

Right at the 47 second mark in the video above,is Tracy M. sitting in the back of a SUV with Lenny.I can't screen capture it.


You sure????????  I am getting Dominic Casey bending over. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cherjers on September 07, 2009, 05:47:11 PM
As far as Leonard goes --If it wasnt for him we would not have Tracey or Robs take on KC Lee-George and Sin SIN.  He went out here put his own money up to try and find Caylee. When he met KC he knew Caylee was dead.  He may love the media and the spotlight but he has done alot for this case.  He may act like a fool but he is far from a fool---Tony P on the other hand did not do anything-now he wants in-yes he put up the Bond but Lenny paid the 50,000.  If it was not for Lenny TonyP would never haved bailed KC out--so why the smear on Lenny-what is Tony P problem ::MonkeyMad::  When does a bail bondmen get involed in a case-Never.  Think of all the high profile case --have youever heard from the company that put up the bail-NO Lenny is a bounty hunter-he looks for people -- he thought he could find Caylee .

Good Afternoon Monkeys. I hope everyone is enjoying their Labor Day holiday.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I'm going to sit on the branch with you on this one. Lenny being in Orlando has been a double edged sword, but for the most part, I think the benefits outweighs the bad.

I have another question about the bond in September though. When  she was bonded out, it was said she was being bonded by an unknown benefactor. I know two bail bonding companies went together to make that big a bond, but who put up the initial money to do it? Did we ever find out?


snipped

Bond documents show that George and Cindy Anthony put up the collateral to obtain their daughter's freedom. The paperwork did not explain the source of the collateral but said the couple signed off on a "promissory note indemnity agreement" -- essentially a contract that requires the parents to repay the bondsman for any losses.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-caylee0508sep05,0,7306870.story
  I never knew that-I htought in the jail visit they told KC they did not have the money-thanks for the information-I always thought it WAS LENNY


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 07, 2009, 05:57:53 PM
http://www.wesh.com/video/20728364/index.html

Right at the 47 second mark in the video above,is Tracy M. sitting in the back of a SUV with Lenny.I can't screen capture it.


(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/TRACYANDPADILLA.jpg)

I screen captured that photo from this video posted on youtube by justfoolinaround2:


http://www.youtube.com/v/B9Pp8s9nxAg&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x3a3a3a&color2=0x999999&border=1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 07, 2009, 06:06:25 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/09/casey-anthony-lawyer-takes-on.html

WDBO Local News      
Casey Anthony lawyer takes on another high-profile case
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ September 7, 2009 4:37 PM

Todd Macaluso, a California lawyer who was brought onto Casey Anthony's defense team because of his expertise in cross examination, has taken on another high-profile case.

Macaluso is representing NFL star Shawne Merriman whose accused of two felonies in an altercation with reality TV celebrity Tila Tequila.

Tequila made a name for herself as the star of the reality show "A Shot at Love with Tila Tequila."

Macaluso says Merriman was trying to keep her from driving intoxicated, but the San Diego sheriff's office arrested him for battery and false imprisonment.

Macaluso, a late addition to Casey Anthony's defense, has been adamant about her innocence.

He recently made headlines after saying the defense had substantial evidence that " the body or the remains of Caylee Anthony were placed [where they were found] after Casey Anthony was locked up in the Orange County correctional facility."

He argued successfully for the defense's right question Tim Miller of Texas Equusearch, and have access to the records of volunteers who searched for Caylee Anthony.


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Post by: cece on September 07, 2009, 06:10:48 PM
http://www.bloggernews.net/122155

Caylee Anthony’s Mom’s Defense Team At It Again
Posted on September 7th, 2009
by Jan Barrett in Society and Culture, crime

The mother of the murdered toddler, Casey Anthony claimed her daughter had been kidnapped 31 days before they even bothered to report it to the police. She told authorities that her 2 year old daughter, Caylee Anthony had been taken by the Nanny, whom she named to be a Zenaida Gonzalez. After a thorough investigation investigators came to the conclusion that there was no such Nanny that existed and Casey Anthony was lying and has since been arrested and charged with first degree murder facing the death penalty. She is being held in the Orange County Jail in Orlando Florida.

Zenaida Gonzalez has filed a civil suit claiming Casey’s allegation against a woman with her name has ruined her reputation and now she can’t even find work.

WESH.com is reporting that there are now two new hearings scheduled for this week involving the civil case against Casey Anthony. They say that Tuesday, Casey’s wannabe ‘Dream Team’ will be filing a motion to try to get the complaint dismissed once again. I guess now that they can see that the “Nanny” story just won’t cut it, they want to drop it. It doesn’t seem to matter to them that an innocent woman has suffered from Casey Anthony’s games with the police.

In the second hearing scheduled for Wednesday Zenaida Gonzalez’s attorney are going to try to get the courts to order George and Cindy Anthony, Casey’s parents , to complete the questions from their depositions that they refused to answer.

Cindy Anthony had refused to answer when asked if her daughter had ever used their credit cards without their permission. Gonzalez’s lawyers want to show that Casey could not afford to pay for a Nanny because she didn’t have the money.

George Anthony refused to answer quite a few questions. He acted as though he was only there for the deposition to answer the questions that he wanted to and not worry about the rest. He even threatened to walk out when he was asked questions that he chose not to answer or that didn’t meet with his approval. When asked had Casey ever stolen from them he refused to answer yet in an interview with the FBI he admitted that she had indeed stolen from all of them. He even mentioned that she actually stole money out of Caylee’s piggy bank.

Personally I think the Anthony’s are a joke. As a parent I can understand not wanting to testify against your own daughter especially if it is going to help prosecutors prove she is guilty of murder. The thing is though that Caylee was their only granddaughter. Who protected her? How can they forget her? In all fairness, maybe they haven’t forgotten her but how can they turn their backs on her to defend Casey when they have to know what happened to that child. If they don’t know they for sure know that every bit of evidence the prosecutors have points directly to Casey. I don’t understand how they can take Casey’s word for it that she didn’t do this knowing how she lies about everything.

Caylee I know you are looking down at everyone. I know you are happy where you are. I can only hope that you will get the justice you so rightly deserve once this is all over with. You deserve it. We are here praying for you, the world waits for the justice to be served for you as well. God Bless you honey. We love you!

Jan Barrett



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Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2009, 06:16:03 PM
http://www.wesh.com/video/20728364/index.html

Right at the 47 second mark in the video above,is Tracy M. sitting in the back of a SUV with Lenny.I can't screen capture it.


You sure????????  I am getting Dominic Casey bending over. 
Accck,wrong video I think.Look under the one titled"Investigative,New Caylee Photos Released"





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Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 07, 2009, 06:17:10 PM
http://www.wesh.com/video/20728364/index.html

Right at the 47 second mark in the video above,is Tracy M. sitting in the back of a SUV with Lenny.I can't screen capture it.


(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/TRACYANDPADILLA.jpg)

I screen captured that photo from this video posted on youtube by justfoolinaround2:


http://www.youtube.com/v/B9Pp8s9nxAg&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x3a3a3a&color2=0x999999&border=1
Thank you Cece!


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Post by: cece on September 07, 2009, 06:19:01 PM
You're welcome Karma!   ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: trimmonthelake on September 07, 2009, 06:20:42 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20779118/detail.html
Anthony Lawyers Want Civil Suit Tossed
23-Year-Old Charged In Death Of Caylee Anthony

POSTED: Monday, September 7, 2009
UPDATED: 5:40 pm EDT September 7, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony's defense attorneys will ask a judge at a court hearing on Tuesday to throw out a civil lawsuit against their client on the basis that it's frivolous.

Anthony, 23, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found in December. Anthony has pleaded not guilty to the charges, and she told investigators that she left Caylee with a baby sitter named Zenaida Gonzalez last summer and the two were gone when she returned to pick up her daughter.

A woman by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez has filed a defamation lawsuit against Anthony, seeking $15,000 and claiming that she could not secure employment because of the link to the case.

If the judge allows the case to move forward, Anthony's attorneys will request that the civil case be postponed until after her murder trial, which is scheduled to begin next year.

Also, if the civil case is allowed to proceed, Gonzalez's attorneys will return to court on Wednesday, asking a judge to force Anthony's parents, George and Cindy Anthony, to answer questions they refused to answer during depositions earlier this year.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 07, 2009, 06:23:59 PM
I think this is the video you wanted:

http://www.wesh.com/video/20728364/index.html


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Post by: cece on September 07, 2009, 06:24:46 PM
OOPS!  I messed up.   ::MonkeyConfused::

http://www.wesh.com/video/20728364/index.html


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Post by: BluesyGram on September 07, 2009, 06:56:25 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20779118/detail.html
Anthony Lawyers Want Civil Suit Tossed
23-Year-Old Charged In Death Of Caylee Anthony

POSTED: Monday, September 7, 2009
UPDATED: 5:40 pm EDT September 7, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony's defense attorneys will ask a judge at a court hearing on Tuesday to throw out a civil lawsuit against their client on the basis that it's frivolous.

Anthony, 23, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found in December. Anthony has pleaded not guilty to the charges, and she told investigators that she left Caylee with a baby sitter named Zenaida Gonzalez last summer and the two were gone when she returned to pick up her daughter.

A woman by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez has filed a defamation lawsuit against Anthony, seeking $15,000 and claiming that she could not secure employment because of the link to the case.

If the judge allows the case to move forward, Anthony's attorneys will request that the civil case be postponed until after her murder trial, which is scheduled to begin next year.

Also, if the civil case is allowed to proceed, Gonzalez's attorneys will return to court on Wednesday, asking a judge to force Anthony's parents, George and Cindy Anthony, to answer questions they refused to answer during depositions earlier this year.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.

How many times do you get to petition the court to dismiss the lawsuit?  How many times has Rodriguez ruled on this?  Hope the judge slams them for wasting the court's time and tell him to MOVE ON!

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


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Post by: monkalicious on September 07, 2009, 08:24:31 PM
Did anyone ever find the actual red heart sticker that was placed on the duct tape?  I know the imprint of the adhesive was there, and they were trying to match it with the sticker sheet at the A's, but I was thinking about something.  If Caylee drowned, with the duct tape on, sticker in place, could it have fallen by the pool, discovered by Cindy on the 3rd of July, perhaps?  I just don't remember if the sticker itself was ever found. 

Pretty sure the sticker itself was found.  Let me find the picture

Yes, here is the pic:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/hearttape2.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/hearttape.jpg)
Thanks, Klaas--Just could not remember...


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Post by: tupelohoney on September 07, 2009, 08:55:06 PM
OOPS!  I messed up.   ::MonkeyConfused::

http://www.wesh.com/video/20728364/index.html

On the Interviews, New Caylee Photos Released video when Kronk calls in that he found a skull, he says, "I told you, I told you man." Then the guy on the other end of the radio says, "No, I told you she was there." (at 3:18)   ::MonkeyShocked::  Do we know who this person is?


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Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 07, 2009, 09:15:19 PM
Tracy McClaughlin pictures............

http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/Caylee_Is_Missing/Tracy%20McClaughlin/

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/Caylee_Is_Missing/Tracy%20McClaughlin/lkllk.jpg)


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Post by: tupelohoney on September 07, 2009, 09:35:17 PM
Thank You Seeme!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: karenmamo on September 07, 2009, 10:04:43 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20779118/detail.html
Anthony Lawyers Want Civil Suit Tossed
23-Year-Old Charged In Death Of Caylee Anthony

POSTED: Monday, September 7, 2009
UPDATED: 5:40 pm EDT September 7, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony's defense attorneys will ask a judge at a court hearing on Tuesday to throw out a civil lawsuit against their client on the basis that it's frivolous.

Anthony, 23, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found in December. Anthony has pleaded not guilty to the charges, and she told investigators that she left Caylee with a baby sitter named Zenaida Gonzalez last summer and the two were gone when she returned to pick up her daughter.

A woman by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez has filed a defamation lawsuit against Anthony, seeking $15,000 and claiming that she could not secure employment because of the link to the case.

If the judge allows the case to move forward, Anthony's attorneys will request that the civil case be postponed until after her murder trial, which is scheduled to begin next year.

Also, if the civil case is allowed to proceed, Gonzalez's attorneys will return to court on Wednesday, asking a judge to force Anthony's parents, George and Cindy Anthony, to answer questions they refused to answer during depositions earlier this year.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.

So we get to see wonderful Baez tomorrow morning?  LIVE?  wow cannot wait


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Post by: ISpy on September 07, 2009, 10:56:06 PM
As far as Leonard goes --If it wasnt for him we would not have Tracey or Robs take on KC Lee-George and Sin SIN.  He went out here put his own money up to try and find Caylee. When he met KC he knew Caylee was dead.  He may love the media and the spotlight but he has done alot for this case.  He may act like a fool but he is far from a fool---Tony P on the other hand did not do anything-now he wants in-yes he put up the Bond but Lenny paid the 50,000.  If it was not for Lenny TonyP would never haved bailed KC out--so why the smear on Lenny-what is Tony P problem ::MonkeyMad::  When does a bail bondmen get involed in a case-Never.  Think of all the high profile case --have youever heard from the company that put up the bail-NO Lenny is a bounty hunter-he looks for people -- he thought he could find Caylee .
A bail bondsmen would only get involved in a case, when he is maybe promised money and other perks, otherwise I don't see it either.

Evening, all!  Popping in for a few-don't want to get too far behind this week with the upcoming hearings.  NRCG- ITA with your assessment of bail bondsmen, as a whole.  Perhaps Leonard honestly thought he could find Caylee.  I mean, he does do this for a living and seems pretty successful at it too.  Not denying the publicity of being THE ONE to find CAylee wouldn't be a factor too, but it may not have been the only factor.  Personally, I suspect he was suspicious of Casey's story to begin with (due to years of experience with less-than-credible people), but came to check it out anyway.  IMO, he expected to either find Caylee or get the truth out of Casey pretty quickly.  What he couldn't anticipate was her emotionally abnormal, morally bankrupt, dysfunctional, deny-the-pink-elephant-in-the-room family.  IMO, he expected her parents to cooperate and do what normal parents would do-ask questions (lots of them), honestly divulge any reasonable doubt/suspicions about her character & actions, discuss and re-hash every aspect of the event trying to find Caylee, and emotionally and physically exhaust themselves searching for Caylee.  Instead, he found the Anthony family circling the wagons around to protect Casey from they very people who were there to help her and them "find Caylee".  What he quicly, accurately, and wisely assessed was that these people had no intention of finding Caylee (IMO because they already knew, at least subconsciously, Caylee was dead).  Finding her would only convict Casey.  Cindy, George, and Lee can play dumb and grieving all they want, but each one has separately acknowledged Casey's destructive personality and behavior (to Shirley Plesea, Cindy's MySpace, LE sworn statements, warning Casey's friends to protect themselves, etc). Having said all that, I'm giving Leonard Padilla a pass.  When Casey refused to even discuss Caylee with Leonard/Tony/Tracy and Casey,(who did not own the home by the way), kicked Leonard out of her home, it became personal with Leonard (and rightfully so).  He had an ungrateful mother, with a missing (and he correctly surmised "dead") child, who just wanted to rule the home and have her loyal servants fall at her feet on her every whim...no grief whatsoever for a tiny toddler, no remorse for what she was putting everyone else through, no apologies for anyone else's inconvenience.  I don't fault Leonard one bit.  The reality is Bail Bondsmen and Bounty Hunters enjoy their larger-than-life reputation.  It's part of the persona and also an effective psychological tool in their business.  It's part of the package and at least he looked long and hard for Caylee, which is more than I can ever say for Cindy, George, and Lee.  They will never be able to explain that away or live that down for the rest of their lives.


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Post by: ISpy on September 07, 2009, 10:58:10 PM
Happy Labor Day Monkeys!!

I just got back from my trip and I'm trying to get caught up, but about the shovel being used in the pool......wouldn't there be traces of pool chemicals somewhere on the shovel, mainly the wooden handle, that would have showed up under testing? Also, for some reason, I'm thinking the shovel was returned to the neighbor after they did run tests on it, can anyone confirm this?

Tupelo- you've got a good head on those shoulders!  Excellent point!  The wood pores would have absorbed the pool chemicals, IMO.  ITA!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 07, 2009, 11:04:31 PM
Did anyone ever find the actual red heart sticker that was placed on the duct tape?  I know the imprint of the adhesive was there, and they were trying to match it with the sticker sheet at the A's, but I was thinking about something.  If Caylee drowned, with the duct tape on, sticker in place, could it have fallen by the pool, discovered by Cindy on the 3rd of July, perhaps?  I just don't remember if the sticker itself was ever found. 

Monkalicious- so glad you asked this!  Klaas already answered that the sticker had been found (YAY, Klaas!), but you made me think a little more about this.  Here's why I don't think Caylee was taped and put into the pool.  If the duct tape and sticker were placed prior to putting Caylee in the pool, the sticker would not have stayed on, being submerged for any real length of time (which is why is why it wasn't adhered when the remains were found).  I'm not sure the sticker would have adhered after the tape was wet either.  Although the tape was water-resistant, it would still have needed time to dry or be dried by Casey.  I can't see her doing that, but who knows with her?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 07, 2009, 11:08:59 PM
As far as Leonard goes --If it wasnt for him we would not have Tracey or Robs take on KC Lee-George and Sin SIN.  He went out here put his own money up to try and find Caylee. When he met KC he knew Caylee was dead.  He may love the media and the spotlight but he has done alot for this case.  He may act like a fool but he is far from a fool---Tony P on the other hand did not do anything-now he wants in-yes he put up the Bond but Lenny paid the 50,000.  If it was not for Lenny TonyP would never haved bailed KC out--so why the smear on Lenny-what is Tony P problem ::MonkeyMad::  When does a bail bondmen get involed in a case-Never.  Think of all the high profile case --have youever heard from the company that put up the bail-NO Lenny is a bounty hunter-he looks for people -- he thought he could find Caylee .

Good Afternoon Monkeys. I hope everyone is enjoying their Labor Day holiday.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I'm going to sit on the branch with you on this one. Lenny being in Orlando has been a double edged sword, but for the most part, I think the benefits outweighs the bad.

I have another question about the bond in September though. When  she was bonded out, it was said she was being bonded by an unknown benefactor. I know two bail bonding companies went together to make that big a bond, but who put up the initial money to do it? Did we ever find out?


snipped

Bond documents show that George and Cindy Anthony put up the collateral to obtain their daughter's freedom. The paperwork did not explain the source of the collateral but said the couple signed off on a "promissory note indemnity agreement" -- essentially a contract that requires the parents to repay the bondsman for any losses.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-caylee0508sep05,0,7306870.story

Thanks N2WISHN!  Anyone else think that collateral was news network money (from ABC?), with their exclusive contract and Cindy's constant courtside companion? Things that make you go Hhhhhmmmm.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 07, 2009, 11:11:12 PM



Now I have a question. Does that mean they didn't even have to pay the 10% normally due? If so, I wonder why the special treatment by the bailbond company. I'm sick of them getting special treatment!!

Another question is, what happened to that promissary note when she was arrest for Murder? The bond would have been revoked at that time. So they should still owe the bonding company, if I am not very mistaken.

Not if it was paid off with funds courtesy of the network (IIRC, ABC).


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Post by: ISpy on September 07, 2009, 11:26:46 PM
Thanks for keeping me up to date and to all the monkeys posting links and pics Thank You!  Hope you all have a good evening and take care!  Lord willing, tomorrow Baez and company will be forced to defend their client in the before trial Zenaida Gonzales defamation suit.  That's my prayer tonight.  Casey needs to learn she doesn't have the right to destroy someone else's life:  Caylee's; Amy's; or Zenaida Gonzales'.  Whether she likes it or not, Casey Marie Anthony is finally going to learn the hard way Accountability and Responsibility.


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Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 07, 2009, 11:36:45 PM
Did anyone ever find the actual red heart sticker that was placed on the duct tape?  I know the imprint of the adhesive was there, and they were trying to match it with the sticker sheet at the A's, but I was thinking about something.  If Caylee drowned, with the duct tape on, sticker in place, could it have fallen by the pool, discovered by Cindy on the 3rd of July, perhaps?  I just don't remember if the sticker itself was ever found. 

Pretty sure the sticker itself was found.  Let me find the picture

Yes, here is the pic:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/hearttape2.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/hearttape.jpg)
Thanks, Klaas--Just could not remember...

Being me, can I say - we are assuming the sticker found on the cardboard is the one that was at one point on the duct tape or is one that had the same size residue 'footprint' as the one on the duct tape.  I think it is possible there were more than one of the stickers.  Or........... was that sticker stuck to the cardboard or found lying on it?  Looks stuck to me.  I also think - and someone call me on it if you know I am wrong, but wasn't there mention of another sticker found that we have not seen? 
Now, all that said, I do hope that they will prove the sticker posted here is in fact the one that was on the duct tape - but a match to it, would do the same, IMHO. 


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Post by: TOY on September 08, 2009, 12:14:52 AM
Guys, it's been so long since I've posted, I'm not even sure if I'm doing this correctly! I have been in bed after some minor foot surgery and have been practically glued to the laptop trying to catch up on all that I've missed here at Scared Monkeys in the last few months. Just seeing the nicks of everyone again has been uplifting!

Evidently I've gotten to the age where I cannot multi-task even in minor things.  We have gotten a Yorkie puppy and in trying to learn how to take care of her, my computer time has focused on Yorkie sites and answering email.

It is so good to see all of you and read your latest thoughts on the documents, etc.  As always, your insights give me so much to ponder.  (Sorry, Klaas, I know this is OT but I just couldn't resist saying hello to everyone before my eyes totally blurred from all the reading.)

In spite of my absence in the forums, I have caught all of Dana's shows...so I still was staying in touch by a thread, I guess.  I so enjoy his shows but still think the commentaries are too short!  (Plus, he's still costing me money as I tend to buy whatever author's book is being discussed.)

Since I'm already guilty of being OT, I'll share a photo of what's kept me away from the forums.  She has brought laughter back into my husband's and my lives.





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: TOY on September 08, 2009, 12:16:52 AM
Eek!  I thought that was going to be thumbnail size!

Obviously I have not been learning any more about computers while I was absent.

Sorry...but now I don't know how to remove or shrink it!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: klaasend on September 08, 2009, 12:25:08 AM
Did anyone ever find the actual red heart sticker that was placed on the duct tape?  I know the imprint of the adhesive was there, and they were trying to match it with the sticker sheet at the A's, but I was thinking about something.  If Caylee drowned, with the duct tape on, sticker in place, could it have fallen by the pool, discovered by Cindy on the 3rd of July, perhaps?  I just don't remember if the sticker itself was ever found. 

Pretty sure the sticker itself was found.  Let me find the picture

Yes, here is the pic:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/hearttape2.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/hearttape.jpg)
Thanks, Klaas--Just could not remember...

Being me, can I say - we are assuming the sticker found on the cardboard is the one that was at one point on the duct tape or is one that had the same size residue 'footprint' as the one on the duct tape.  I think it is possible there were more than one of the stickers.  Or........... was that sticker stuck to the cardboard or found lying on it?  Looks stuck to me.  I also think - and someone call me on it if you know I am wrong, but wasn't there mention of another sticker found that we have not seen? 
Now, all that said, I do hope that they will prove the sticker posted here is in fact the one that was on the duct tape - but a match to it, would do the same, IMHO. 


I believe what we are looking at is THE sticker on THE piece of duct tape (I could be wrong)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: klaasend on September 08, 2009, 12:28:10 AM
Darling puppy Toy!  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 12:34:24 AM
Hi Monkeys!

Here's a snippet from this article if it helps clear up the heart sticker:

A medical examiner had to cut the child's brown hair to remove the tape, and when the FBI took a close look, it found adhesive residue in the shape of a heart, according to court documents released Wednesday.

The investigators who scoured the Orange County woods where Caylee's remains were found last month found a loose sticker similar in size.

"It appears that the sticker was put on the duct tape intentionally," an Orange County detective wrote in a search-warrant affidavit.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey2209jan22,0,328972.story


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 12:36:36 AM
I'm not sure whether further forensic reports were able to prove the found sticker as the one on the duct tape, but the connection at the time, was that it was one in the same.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 08, 2009, 05:35:14 AM
Long evening for me, so I'm hopping into the cage to read up in the wee hours.

Regarding the evidence photos of a heart-shaped sticker:

The crime scene photos IIRC were all snapped either at the scene in Orlando or at the OCSO forensics dept. 

In contrast, I believe that the heart-shaped adhesive residue on the duct tape was discovered by the FBI crime lab, after the duct tape pieces had been sent from Orlando to the FBI lab for examination.  I don't recall seeing any photos released yet, of the actual strips of duct tape that were layered across Caylee's lower face.  And that would be the duct tape that has the heart-shaped residue on it. 

Once FBI made this discovery, they sent word to the folks working the scene in Orlando, about the heart-shaped residue.  Investigators and crime scene personnel then added heart stickers to their list of items to look for as they continued to search the site on Suburban.

Subsequently, LE found (IIRC) a piece of cardboard with a rigid, 3-D heart sticker still attached, and it was photographed and entered into evidence.  I believe they found this item far away from Caylee's remains, near the fenceline.  Like much of the other debris and trash found at the scene, IIRC it was not known whether this sticker was connected to the case.  ICBW, but in the evidence photo of this sticker, I am pretty sure it is still attached to an old deteriorating, moldy piece of cardboard; possibly of the type that is used for scrapbook pages.

Note that the photo of this item is labeled only "(symbol for heart) sticker."  The item tag doesn't mention duct tape, which I think it would if the sticker were attached to duct tape.  However, it doesn't say "cardboard" either, for that matter.

News and blog articles made the connection that this sticker was the one that had left the residue on the duct tape.  However, IIRC, we have not yet heard from LE whether the sticker found at the scene in fact matches the sticker residue on the duct tape.  It seems to have been attached to the cardboard, and it may have been a type of sticker that would not adhere well to an uneven surface, like duct tape over a child's mouth, since the sticker is a rigid, hard plastic, molded 3-D object.  (ICBW about this, though; haven't tested this theory!)
 
IMO, we are probably talking about two different heart stickers:  One that created the residue on the duct tape (don't know if they ever found this sticker), and the other that was found at the edge of the remains site, still stuck to an old piece of cardboard, and photographed as evidence.

Side note:  I did see one blog-type article that claims that the heart sticker that was originally on the duct tape was found inside the black garbage bags among Caylee's remains... but I don't believe that is accurate, unless I've missed this in the docs.

Also, I think we've identified the type of sticker that was found at the scene as a common craft item of the type that Casey might have ordered from an online craft supplier.  At any rate, there were sheets of flat heart stickers confiscated by LE from among her belongings, as well as some puffy or 3-D stickers on some of her scrapbook designs.

And we've all seen how her online photos and photobucket images were loaded with hearts.

Please correct me if I'm wrong about any of this.  Attaching pics.


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Post by: Desdemona on September 08, 2009, 05:49:00 AM
Craft stickers available online.


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Post by: Desdemona on September 08, 2009, 05:58:05 AM
An interesting and brief one-page thread on the subject, with more images, including pics of stickers from Casey's room, and tiny heart-shaped cell phone stickers on the phone of Casey's friend Sami.

http://justice4caylee.forumotion.net/evidence-f26/heart-sticker-on-caylee-t1522.htm#bottom (http://justice4caylee.forumotion.net/evidence-f26/heart-sticker-on-caylee-t1522.htm#bottom)


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Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 06:48:36 AM
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Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 07:02:31 AM
Casey Anthony: Will George, Cindy be forced to answer questions?
posted by halboedeker on Sep 7, 2009 6:42:43 PM
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WESH-Channel 2 tonight previewed the big week ahead in the defamation suit against Casey Anthony. Zenaida Gonzalez is suing Anthony for ruining her life by linking her to the disappearance of toddler Caylee Anthony. Casey Anthony is charged with the first-degree murder of her child.

Gonzalez's lawyers want George and Cindy Anthony, Casey's parents, be forced to answer questions they have avoided in depositions. That battle will take place Wednesday, WESH's Bob Kealing noted.

But Orlando defense attorney Richard Hornsby, who provides legal analysis for WESH, predicted that the judge will tell Gonzalez's attorneys to move on. The reason? The attorneys have enough information to make their case, Kealing said.

"It's very obvious that this Zenaida Gonzalez doesn't exist," Hornsby said. "They now need to move into the next phase of their case, which is proving Zenaida didn't exist to a jury or judge, and seeking whatever the damages are. This is your typical tit-for-tat lawyering that I think gives lawyers in general a bad name."

I'd love to hear what John Morgan, Gonzalez's attorney, has to say to that.

Kealing added: "WESH 2 has learned that Gonzalez's lawyers seriously considered suing Cindy Anthony for allegedly repeating libelous statements against Gonzalez that she knew were incorrect. For now they have decided against that course of action."

Hmmm. Wouldn't you like to know more details? That sentence sounds like a warning to Cindy Anthony.

But first on Tuesday, Casey Anthony's civil attorney will ask the judge to delay or dismiss the civil suit until after her murder trial, Kealing said.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-will-george-cindy-be-forced-to-answer-questions.html


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Post by: MuffyBee on September 08, 2009, 07:04:20 AM
Good morning  :smt006  Seeing the heart shaped stickers brings memories of when we first learned of them in regard to Caylee.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 


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Post by: cherjers on September 08, 2009, 07:09:08 AM
As far as Leonard goes --If it wasnt for him we would not have Tracey or Robs take on KC Lee-George and Sin SIN.  He went out here put his own money up to try and find Caylee. When he met KC he knew Caylee was dead.  He may love the media and the spotlight but he has done alot for this case.  He may act like a fool but he is far from a fool---Tony P on the other hand did not do anything-now he wants in-yes he put up the Bond but Lenny paid the 50,000.  If it was not for Lenny TonyP would never haved bailed KC out--so why the smear on Lenny-what is Tony P problem ::MonkeyMad::  When does a bail bondmen get involed in a case-Never.  Think of all the high profile case --have youever heard from the company that put up the bail-NO Lenny is a bounty hunter-he looks for people -- he thought he could find Caylee .
A bail bondsmen would only get involved in a case, when he is maybe promised money and other perks, otherwise I don't see it either.

Evening, all!  Popping in for a few-don't want to get too far behind this week with the upcoming hearings.  NRCG- ITA with your assessment of bail bondsmen, as a whole.  Perhaps Leonard honestly thought he could find Caylee.  I mean, he does do this for a living and seems pretty successful at it too.  Not denying the publicity of being THE ONE to find CAylee wouldn't be a factor too, but it may not have been the only factor.  Personally, I suspect he was suspicious of Casey's story to begin with (due to years of experience with less-than-credible people), but came to check it out anyway.  IMO, he expected to either find Caylee or get the truth out of Casey pretty quickly.  What he couldn't anticipate was her emotionally abnormal, morally bankrupt, dysfunctional, deny-the-pink-elephant-in-the-room family.  IMO, he expected her parents to cooperate and do what normal parents would do-ask questions (lots of them), honestly divulge any reasonable doubt/suspicions about her character & actions, discuss and re-hash every aspect of the event trying to find Caylee, and emotionally and physically exhaust themselves searching for Caylee.  Instead, he found the Anthony family circling the wagons around to protect Casey from they very people who were there to help her and them "find Caylee".  What he quicly, accurately, and wisely assessed was that these people had no intention of finding Caylee (IMO because they already knew, at least subconsciously, Caylee was dead).  Finding her would only convict Casey.  Cindy, George, and Lee can play dumb and grieving all they want, but each one has separately acknowledged Casey's destructive personality and behavior (to Shirley Plesea, Cindy's MySpace, LE sworn statements, warning Casey's friends to protect themselves, etc). Having said all that, I'm giving Leonard Padilla a pass.  When Casey refused to even discuss Caylee with Leonard/Tony/Tracy and Casey,(who did not own the home by the way), kicked Leonard out of her home, it became personal with Leonard (and rightfully so).  He had an ungrateful mother, with a missing (and he correctly surmised "dead") child, who just wanted to rule the home and have her loyal servants fall at her feet on her every whim...no grief whatsoever for a tiny toddler, no remorse for what she was putting everyone else through, no apologies for anyone else's inconvenience.  I don't fault Leonard one bit.  The reality is Bail Bondsmen and Bounty Hunters enjoy their larger-than-life reputation.  It's part of the persona and also an effective psychological tool in their business.  It's part of the package and at least he looked long and hard for Caylee, which is more than I can ever say for Cindy, George, and Lee.  They will never be able to explain that away or live that down for the rest of their lives.
  I agree I spy- But Lenny is a bounty hunter-so I think he really thought he could find Caylee-but tony P is a bond men they dont get involved in cases in a public way.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 07:41:11 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/20788309/detail.html
Civil Case Against Casey Takes Center Stage

Posted: 7:30 am EDT September 8, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The case against Casey Anthony will likely bring another round of tough questions for her parents as early as Tuesday.

George and Cindy Anthony could be held in contempt of court if they do not answer some questions about the case. But first, Casey's team of attorneys wants the civil suit against her dismissed.

There are two hearings set for this week, one Tuesday morning and then another Wednesday. First up, Casey's civil suit and then George and Cindy will take center stage. Casey Anthony's attorneys want the civil suit filed by Zenaida Gonzalez thrown out.

WFTV legal expert Bill Sheaffer says these types of motions are to be expected.

"This is a fairly standard motion to dismiss that's made in every case and as long as there is a factual basis to maintain this lawsuit the court will not dismiss," explained Sheaffer.

Gonzalez has the same name as the babysitter who Casey Anthony claimed took Caylee. Gonzalez says her life has been ruined.
Tuesday morning's hearing is not the only time the case against Casey will be in court this week. On Wednesday, the court could force George and Cindy Anthony to answer every single question from Gonzalez's attorneys.

"Unless there is some privilege that can be asserted by George or Cindy, which I do not think there is one, then I would expect the court would compel them to answer questions," said Sheaffer.

Tuesday morning's hearing is scheduled for 10:00am at the Orange County Courthouse and is expected to take about one hour.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 07:43:28 AM
Good morning  :smt006  Seeing the heart shaped stickers brings memories of when we first learned of them in regard to Caylee.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

Hey Muffy.  :smt039
I know those sticker photos made me sad.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


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Post by: cherjers on September 08, 2009, 07:53:56 AM
Good morning Monkeys- My brain shut down-please can someone refresh my memory-Lenny bailed out KC for what charge and how long was she out.  Did he put up the $50,000 and lose it.  The second time what was she bailed out  was it fraud.  Here is where I lost it.  Who put up the bond -been reading post and it seems George and Cindy -but I don't remember that.  How much was the was the bond and how much did they have to put up.  If they put it up- they had to  take the lost-- Like Lenny did-am I right or wrong and much did they lose


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cherjers on September 08, 2009, 08:16:53 AM
Good morning  :smt006  Seeing the heart shaped stickers brings memories of when we first learned of them in regard to Caylee.   ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

Hey Muffy.  :smt039
I know those sticker photos made me sad.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
I know how you feel-felt the same way-how sick or evil do you have to be to put that sticker on-I dont care if it was an accident or not-that sticker alone I would give her the D.P. ::MonkeyMad::


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Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 08:23:02 AM
Good morning Monkeys- My brain shut down-please can someone refresh my memory-Lenny bailed out KC for what charge and how long was she out.  Did he put up the $50,000 and lose it.  The second time what was she bailed out  was it fraud.  Here is where I lost it.  Who put up the bond -been reading post and it seems George and Cindy -but I don't remember that.  How much was the was the bond and how much did they have to put up.  If they put it up- they had to  take the lost-- Like Lenny did-am I right or wrong and much did they lose

This is a good place to read the time line.There's a lot of info there.
http://www.acandyrose.com/caylee_anthony_timeline2008August16.htm


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Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 08:25:00 AM
As far as Leonard goes --If it wasnt for him we would not have Tracey or Robs take on KC Lee-George and Sin SIN.  He went out here put his own money up to try and find Caylee. When he met KC he knew Caylee was dead.  He may love the media and the spotlight but he has done alot for this case.  He may act like a fool but he is far from a fool---Tony P on the other hand did not do anything-now he wants in-yes he put up the Bond but Lenny paid the 50,000.  If it was not for Lenny TonyP would never haved bailed KC out--so why the smear on Lenny-what is Tony P problem ::MonkeyMad::  When does a bail bondmen get involed in a case-Never.  Think of all the high profile case --have youever heard from the company that put up the bail-NO Lenny is a bounty hunter-he looks for people -- he thought he could find Caylee .

Good Afternoon Monkeys. I hope everyone is enjoying their Labor Day holiday.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I'm going to sit on the branch with you on this one. Lenny being in Orlando has been a double edged sword, but for the most part, I think the benefits outweighs the bad.

I have another question about the bond in September though. When  she was bonded out, it was said she was being bonded by an unknown benefactor. I know two bail bonding companies went together to make that big a bond, but who put up the initial money to do it? Did we ever find out?


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Bond documents show that George and Cindy Anthony put up the collateral to obtain their daughter's freedom. The paperwork did not explain the source of the collateral but said the couple signed off on a "promissory note indemnity agreement" -- essentially a contract that requires the parents to repay the bondsman for any losses.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-caylee0508sep05,0,7306870.story

Thanks N2WISHN!  Anyone else think that collateral was news network money (from ABC?), with their exclusive contract and Cindy's constant courtside companion? Things that make you go Hhhhhmmmm.

 :smt045


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Post by: cherjers on September 08, 2009, 08:25:06 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20779118/detail.html
Anthony Lawyers Want Civil Suit Tossed
23-Year-Old Charged In Death Of Caylee Anthony

POSTED: Monday, September 7, 2009
UPDATED: 5:40 pm EDT September 7, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony's defense attorneys will ask a judge at a court hearing on Tuesday to throw out a civil lawsuit against their client on the basis that it's frivolous.

Anthony, 23, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found in December. Anthony has pleaded not guilty to the charges, and she told investigators that she left Caylee with a baby sitter named Zenaida Gonzalez last summer and the two were gone when she returned to pick up her daughter.

A woman by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez has filed a defamation lawsuit against Anthony, seeking $15,000 and claiming that she could not secure employment because of the link to the case.

If the judge allows the case to move forward, Anthony's attorneys will request that the civil case be postponed until after her murder trial, which is scheduled to begin next year.

Also, if the civil case is allowed to proceed, Gonzalez's attorneys will return to court on Wednesday, asking a judge to force Anthony's parents, George and Cindy Anthony, to answer questions they refused to answer during depositions earlier this year.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.
Big day in nutville today-I wonder if all the nuts will be there-I hope Lee shows-where has he been CMA I love you -I am proud of the way you live your live-dont open the door for the police-did he think they would just go away-Where is Mallory -she may be the biggest nut of all-how could she stay with Lee  ::MonkeyConfused::


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Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 08:33:28 AM
Cherjers,Lee does seem to keep out of sight,doesn't he?   ::MonkeyRoll::


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Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 08, 2009, 08:36:34 AM
I stumbled across this looking for info on today's hearing. It's probably a repeat post but I had not seen it until now. I highlighted a couple of points I found interesting. ::MonkeyDevil::

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/8/21/casey39s_case_takes_a_toll_on_her_family.html


Allison Walker Inside The Casey Hearing
Friday, August 21, 2009 3:14:25 PM


Reported by Allison Walker

ORLANDO - A criminal trial and the hearings leading up to it can take a toll on opposing sides. Family members often end up on opposite sides. Tension rise as one-time supporters jump to the other side.

Some observations during Friday's hearing:

Casey Anthony walked into court, she looked straight at her defense team as they welcomed her. She did not turn her head into the crowd.

When George Anthony was called to testify, he was suddenly face to face with his daughter.
Casey wiped away her tears for several minutes. Her attorneys kept asking her if she was OK. She nodded. George appeared to choke up.

After he testified and was returning to his seat, George grabbed his heart and looked at Casey and mouthed, "I love you."

When the hearing ended, Casey’s parents were leaning over the bench, eager for Casey to turn around. Casey didn’t. She headed out the door without any kind of acknowledgment of seeing her parents.

George and Cindy Anthony were standing as she left, and looked like they were disappointed. Both took a few big breaths, and slowly made their way out.

During the ride down in an elevator, George relaxed a bit, telling members of the media about a recent trip they took to the beach.


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Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 08, 2009, 08:39:22 AM
Cherjers,Lee does seem to keep out of sight,doesn't he?   ::MonkeyRoll::

Maybe he has run out of clean knee-high tube socks..... ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 08, 2009, 08:41:01 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 08:51:57 AM
Cherjers,Lee does seem to keep out of sight,doesn't he?   ::MonkeyRoll::

Maybe he has run out of clean knee-high tube socks..... ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 08:55:48 AM
Casey Anthony attorneys will try to dismiss defamation suit
Zenaida Gonzalez filed a defamation lawsuit against Casey Anthony, claiming her reputation was damaged when Anthony claimed a nanny by the name of Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez took Caylee.
7:21 a.m. EDT, September 8, 2009
<snipped>
Casey Anthony's attorneys today will attempt to dismiss the defamation suit filed by a Kissimmee woman who claims Anthony damaged her reputation.

Investigators say Anthony made up the nanny and is lying about what happened to her daughter, who was reported missing in July 2008.

Zenaida Gonzalez, a Kissimmee mother of six, filed a lawsuit against Anthony, claiming her reputation was damaged when Anthony identified the nanny as Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez.

Casey Anthony is charged with murder.

Today's hearing on the defamation suit is scheduled to start at 10 a.m.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-latest-090809,0,1935181.story


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Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 08:57:11 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/090809_Casey_Anthony_defamation_suit
<snipped>
Published : Tuesday, 08 Sep 2009, 8:18 AM EDT
<snipped>
The attorneys for Casey Anthony will attempt to dismiss a defamation suit filed by a central Florida woman who claims Anthony damaged her reputation.

Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez claims Anthony defamed her when she told police that her daughter, Caylee, had been left with a nanny named Zenaida Gonzalez. Investigators believe Anthony made up the story about the nanny.


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Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 08:58:36 AM
Good Morning everybody.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I thought we heard last week there would be hearings on Tuesday and Thursday this week. I guess the schedule changed, and we will have one today and tomorrow. Whatever, I had a feeling that once summer vacations were over, there would start to be movement in the cases again.    ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 08:58:53 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/20788309/detail.html
Civil Case Against Casey Takes Center Stage

Posted: 7:30 am EDT September 8, 2009Updated: 8:04 am EDT September 8, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The case against Casey Anthony will likely bring another round of tough questions for her parents as early as Tuesday.

George and Cindy Anthony could be held in contempt of court if they do not answer some questions about the case, but first Casey's team of attorneys wants the civil suit against her dismissed.

There are two hearings set for this week, one Tuesday and then another Wednesday. First up, Casey's civil suit and then George and Cindy will take center stage.

Casey Anthony's attorneys want the civil suit filed by Zenaida Gonzalez thrown out. WFTV legal expert Bill Sheaffer says these types of motions are to be expected.

"This is a fairly standard motion to dismiss that's made in every case and, as long as there is a factual basis to maintain this lawsuit, the court will not dismiss," explained Sheaffer.
Gonzalez has the same name as the babysitter who Casey Anthony claimed took Caylee. Gonzalez says her life has been ruined.

Tuesday morning's hearing is not the only time the case against Casey will be in court this week. On Wednesday, the court could force George and Cindy Anthony to answer every single question from Gonzalez's attorneys.

"Unless there is some privilege that can be asserted by George or Cindy, which I do not think there is one, then I would expect the court would compel them to answer questions," Sheaffer said.

Tuesday morning's hearing is scheduled for 10:00am at the Orange County Courthouse and is expected to take about one hour.


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Post by: monkalicious on September 08, 2009, 09:00:17 AM
Long evening for me, so I'm hopping into the cage to read up in the wee hours.

Regarding the evidence photos of a heart-shaped sticker:

The crime scene photos IIRC were all snapped either at the scene in Orlando or at the OCSO forensics dept. 

In contrast, I believe that the heart-shaped adhesive residue on the duct tape was discovered by the FBI crime lab, after the duct tape pieces had been sent from Orlando to the FBI lab for examination.  I don't recall seeing any photos released yet, of the actual strips of duct tape that were layered across Caylee's lower face.  And that would be the duct tape that has the heart-shaped residue on it. 

Once FBI made this discovery, they sent word to the folks working the scene in Orlando, about the heart-shaped residue.  Investigators and crime scene personnel then added heart stickers to their list of items to look for as they continued to search the site on Suburban.

Subsequently, LE found (IIRC) a piece of cardboard with a rigid, 3-D heart sticker still attached, and it was photographed and entered into evidence.  I believe they found this item far away from Caylee's remains, near the fenceline.  Like much of the other debris and trash found at the scene, IIRC it was not known whether this sticker was connected to the case.  ICBW, but in the evidence photo of this sticker, I am pretty sure it is still attached to an old deteriorating, moldy piece of cardboard; possibly of the type that is used for scrapbook pages.

Note that the photo of this item is labeled only "(symbol for heart) sticker."  The item tag doesn't mention duct tape, which I think it would if the sticker were attached to duct tape.  However, it doesn't say "cardboard" either, for that matter.

News and blog articles made the connection that this sticker was the one that had left the residue on the duct tape.  However, IIRC, we have not yet heard from LE whether the sticker found at the scene in fact matches the sticker residue on the duct tape.  It seems to have been attached to the cardboard, and it may have been a type of sticker that would not adhere well to an uneven surface, like duct tape over a child's mouth, since the sticker is a rigid, hard plastic, molded 3-D object.  (ICBW about this, though; haven't tested this theory!)
 
IMO, we are probably talking about two different heart stickersOne that created the residue on the duct tape (don't know if they ever found this sticker), and the other that was found at the edge of the remains site, still stuck to an old piece of cardboard, and photographed as evidence.

Side note:  I did see one blog-type article that claims that the heart sticker that was originally on the duct tape was found inside the black garbage bags among Caylee's remains... but I don't believe that is accurate, unless I've missed this in the docs.

Also, I think we've identified the type of sticker that was found at the scene as a common craft item of the type that Casey might have ordered from an online craft supplier.  At any rate, there were sheets of flat heart stickers confiscated by LE from among her belongings, as well as some puffy or 3-D stickers on some of her scrapbook designs.

And we've all seen how her online photos and photobucket images were loaded with hearts.

Please correct me if I'm wrong about any of this.  Attaching pics.
So, not to belabor the point about the sticker, it's still not clear if that heart sticker that was actually on the duct tape was found.  I'm still thinking that it could have been found by Cindy near the pool on July 3rd, and that it could have been the impetus for the search for Casey by Lee.  I do a lot of scrapbooking, and the sticker thing was just so sad.  Thanks to everyone for their input.


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Post by: monkalicious on September 08, 2009, 09:01:02 AM
Oh, I almost forgot.  Good Morning, Monkeys!! ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 09:06:02 AM
Long evening for me, so I'm hopping into the cage to read up in the wee hours.

Regarding the evidence photos of a heart-shaped sticker:

The crime scene photos IIRC were all snapped either at the scene in Orlando or at the OCSO forensics dept. 

In contrast, I believe that the heart-shaped adhesive residue on the duct tape was discovered by the FBI crime lab, after the duct tape pieces had been sent from Orlando to the FBI lab for examination.  I don't recall seeing any photos released yet, of the actual strips of duct tape that were layered across Caylee's lower face.  And that would be the duct tape that has the heart-shaped residue on it. 

Once FBI made this discovery, they sent word to the folks working the scene in Orlando, about the heart-shaped residue.  Investigators and crime scene personnel then added heart stickers to their list of items to look for as they continued to search the site on Suburban.

Subsequently, LE found (IIRC) a piece of cardboard with a rigid, 3-D heart sticker still attached, and it was photographed and entered into evidence.  I believe they found this item far away from Caylee's remains, near the fenceline.  Like much of the other debris and trash found at the scene, IIRC it was not known whether this sticker was connected to the case.  ICBW, but in the evidence photo of this sticker, I am pretty sure it is still attached to an old deteriorating, moldy piece of cardboard; possibly of the type that is used for scrapbook pages.

Note that the photo of this item is labeled only "(symbol for heart) sticker."  The item tag doesn't mention duct tape, which I think it would if the sticker were attached to duct tape.  However, it doesn't say "cardboard" either, for that matter.

News and blog articles made the connection that this sticker was the one that had left the residue on the duct tape.  However, IIRC, we have not yet heard from LE whether the sticker found at the scene in fact matches the sticker residue on the duct tape.  It seems to have been attached to the cardboard, and it may have been a type of sticker that would not adhere well to an uneven surface, like duct tape over a child's mouth, since the sticker is a rigid, hard plastic, molded 3-D object.  (ICBW about this, though; haven't tested this theory!)
 
IMO, we are probably talking about two different heart stickers:  One that created the residue on the duct tape (don't know if they ever found this sticker), and the other that was found at the edge of the remains site, still stuck to an old piece of cardboard, and photographed as evidence.

Side note:  I did see one blog-type article that claims that the heart sticker that was originally on the duct tape was found inside the black garbage bags among Caylee's remains... but I don't believe that is accurate, unless I've missed this in the docs.

Also, I think we've identified the type of sticker that was found at the scene as a common craft item of the type that Casey might have ordered from an online craft supplier.  At any rate, there were sheets of flat heart stickers confiscated by LE from among her belongings, as well as some puffy or 3-D stickers on some of her scrapbook designs.

And we've all seen how her online photos and photobucket images were loaded with hearts.

Please correct me if I'm wrong about any of this.  Attaching pics.

You always say things so much better and clear than me - but thank you, this is exactly what I remember. 
Page 15  http://www.wftv.com/news/18530424/detail.html 
Talks of the residue found - thus the hunt for the sticker.  Key words for me:  Similar size (would have preferred this say, exact size!)
I can and will find the LE or document that states the sticker in the pics is on cardboard, not duct tape if asked.  I am just crunched for time this morning - stitches out today, we hope!
CBB the article you quote is why I wonder if there is another sticker that was found. 

CBB and DESI -  Thank you both for your posts - this is a key part of the case, and I try not to let my horse get ahead of my cart - and can be very literal when it comes to evidence - even when my heart doesn't like it! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cherjers on September 08, 2009, 09:08:38 AM
Cherjers,Lee does seem to keep out of sight,doesn't he?   ::MonkeyRoll::

Maybe he has run out of clean knee-high tube socks..... ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyJnBox::
::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cherjers on September 08, 2009, 09:10:02 AM
Good morning Monkeys- My brain shut down-please can someone refresh my memory-Lenny bailed out KC for what charge and how long was she out.  Did he put up the $50,000 and lose it.  The second time what was she bailed out  was it fraud.  Here is where I lost it.  Who put up the bond -been reading post and it seems George and Cindy -but I don't remember that.  How much was the was the bond and how much did they have to put up.  If they put it up- they had to  take the lost-- Like Lenny did-am I right or wrong and much did they lose

This is a good place to read the time line.There's a lot of info there.
http://www.acandyrose.com/caylee_anthony_timeline2008August16.htm

  thanks


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Blaze on September 08, 2009, 09:14:59 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!
Hope everyone had a wonderful labor day.
So will KC be in court this am?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Blaze on September 08, 2009, 09:17:47 AM
Had thought about the comment Tracey had said, about KC telling her, she used the neighbors shovel to get the ladder out of the pool, and KC's parents being uncomfortable, with KC telling Tracey that.  Doesn't sound right...KC using a shovel to get a ladder out of the pool?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 08, 2009, 09:20:57 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!
Hope everyone had a wonderful labor day.
So will KC be in court this am?

I'm not positive, but I don't think Casey will be there this morning or tomorrow. Stan makes her appear for all hearings on the murder case, but J. Rodriguez has not done that and Casey has not appeared before.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Blaze on September 08, 2009, 09:24:23 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!
Hope everyone had a wonderful labor day.
So will KC be in court this am?

I'm not positive, but I don't think Casey will be there this morning or tomorrow. Stan makes her appear for all hearings on the murder case, but J. Rodriguez has not done that and Casey has not appeared before.

TU... It's so strange to me how KC can not even look at her parents when she arrives and leaves at court, after almost a year of not seeing them.  All the hurt and pain that KC has caused.  If she does that to her loved ones, imagine what she would do to her enemies. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 09:26:57 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/090809_Casey_Anthony_defamation_suit
Casey Anthony's
defamation suit
Live streaming video today at 10 a.m.

Updated: Tuesday, 08 Sep 2009, 8:58 AM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 08 Sep 2009, 8:18 AM EDT


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Jesse on September 08, 2009, 09:27:22 AM
does anyone remember how to get in to see how much money casey has in her jail fund? was just curious we dont hear about that anymore


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 09:28:22 AM
Had thought about the comment Tracey had said, about KC telling her, she used the neighbors shovel to get the ladder out of the pool, and KC's parents being uncomfortable, with KC telling Tracey that.  Doesn't sound right...KC using a shovel to get a ladder out of the pool?

Good morning.  ::MonkeyJnBox::

The shovel in the pool to get the ladder seems a little bogus. It would be very easy to poke a hole in the liner, not that I think she would have cared. But it would have been very awkward to get it off the bottom if that is what she was really trying to do.

I am not sure, but I think there have been other hearings to delay the civil trial, and my recollection is she wasn't there. If I am wrong, I am sure someone will say.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 09:29:14 AM
does anyone remember how to get in to see how much money casey has in her jail fund? was just curious we dont hear about that anymore

I was trying to find that out today myself. If I do, I'll let you know.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Jesse on September 08, 2009, 09:31:03 AM
does anyone remember how to get in to see how much money casey has in her jail fund? was just curious we dont hear about that anymore


I was trying to find that out today myself. If I do, I'll let you know.

*******************

thank you Fanny


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: karenmamo on September 08, 2009, 09:32:28 AM
Thanks for keeping me up to date and to all the monkeys posting links and pics Thank You!  Hope you all have a good evening and take care!  Lord willing, tomorrow Baez and company will be forced to defend their client in the before trial Zenaida Gonzales defamation suit.  That's my prayer tonight.  Casey needs to learn she doesn't have the right to destroy someone else's life:  Caylee's; Amy's; or Zenaida Gonzales'.  Whether she likes it or not, Casey Marie Anthony is finally going to learn the hard way Accountability and Responsibility.
ISpy, although I appreciated your sentiments...I think we all know that NOTHING will ever teach Casey responsibility nor accountability.
Ain't happening. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Blaze on September 08, 2009, 09:35:26 AM
Had thought about the comment Tracey had said, about KC telling her, she used the neighbors shovel to get the ladder out of the pool, and KC's parents being uncomfortable, with KC telling Tracey that.  Doesn't sound right...KC using a shovel to get a ladder out of the pool?

Good morning.  ::MonkeyJnBox::

The shovel in the pool to get the ladder seems a little bogus. It would be very easy to poke a hole in the liner, not that I think she would have cared. But it would have been very awkward to get it off the bottom if that is what she was really trying to do.

I am not sure, but I think there have been other hearings to delay the civil trial, and my recollection is she wasn't there. If I am wrong, I am sure someone will say.  ::MonkeyCool::
Thank you Fannie.  =)
I know if I were innocent..and being accused of what she is being accused of..  I would have been going off on tangents.  Can you imagine, being accused of such a crime and being innocent?  There would be no way, my mouth would be shut and allowing my lawyer to say..."when this all comes out, we will the understand".. yeah, right, frig that... I would be grabbing the mic! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 09:39:23 AM
Had thought about the comment Tracey had said, about KC telling her, she used the neighbors shovel to get the ladder out of the pool, and KC's parents being uncomfortable, with KC telling Tracey that.  Doesn't sound right...KC using a shovel to get a ladder out of the pool?

Good morning.  ::MonkeyJnBox::

The shovel in the pool to get the ladder seems a little bogus. It would be very easy to poke a hole in the liner, not that I think she would have cared. But it would have been very awkward to get it off the bottom if that is what she was really trying to do.

I am not sure, but I think there have been other hearings to delay the civil trial, and my recollection is she wasn't there. If I am wrong, I am sure someone will say.  ::MonkeyCool::
Thank you Fannie.  =)
I know if I were innocent..and being accused of what she is being accused of..  I would have been going off on tangents.  Can you imagine, being accused of such a crime and being innocent?  There would be no way, my mouth would be shut and allowing my lawyer to say..."when this all comes out, we will the understand".. yeah, right, frig that... I would be grabbing the mic! 

I would also be screaming to high heaven about being locked up in jail while my defense team delays, delays, delays. Maybe she likes being where Spindy can't nag her.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 09:45:45 AM
Morning Monks old and new.....from a butt dragging Monk this morning. Hope everyone has a great weekend. I have my coffee and am ready for the hearing this morning. ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BooMonkey on September 08, 2009, 09:49:24 AM
Morning Monks old and new.....from a butt dragging Monk this morning. Hope everyone has a great weekend. I have my coffee and am ready for the hearing this morning. ::MonkeyDance::

Morning Sunny, Morning all monkeys. My butt is right there dragging with yours! I just hope I can view this court appearance. I've always had trouble, my computer always wanting the latest updates, which I can't give it! Hope those of you that can see will give a play by play of what is happening for those of us who can't view.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 08, 2009, 09:51:22 AM
(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/monkey-cart.gif)  Good morning Monkeys.  Looks like a nice day for a civil hearing!  I hope the Judge is ready this morning.

 ::MonkeyWeight::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 09:51:39 AM
Morning Monks old and new.....from a butt dragging Monk this morning. Hope everyone has a great weekend. I have my coffee and am ready for the hearing this morning. ::MonkeyDance::

Morning Sunny, Morning all monkeys. My butt is right there dragging with yours! I just hope I can view this court appearance. I've always had trouble, my computer always wanting the latest updates, which I can't give it! Hope those of you that can see will give a play by play of what is happening for those of us who can't view.   ::MonkeyTongue::

Hi BOO!! ::MonkeyDance::  I have the same problems....hopefully FOX will cover it..I can usually get FOX to work. Crossing my fingers as I say that!! ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Blaze on September 08, 2009, 09:52:15 AM
Had thought about the comment Tracey had said, about KC telling her, she used the neighbors shovel to get the ladder out of the pool, and KC's parents being uncomfortable, with KC telling Tracey that.  Doesn't sound right...KC using a shovel to get a ladder out of the pool?

Good morning.  ::MonkeyJnBox::

The shovel in the pool to get the ladder seems a little bogus. It would be very easy to poke a hole in the liner, not that I think she would have cared. But it would have been very awkward to get it off the bottom if that is what she was really trying to do.

I am not sure, but I think there have been other hearings to delay the civil trial, and my recollection is she wasn't there. If I am wrong, I am sure someone will say.  ::MonkeyCool::
Thank you Fannie.  =)
I know if I were innocent..and being accused of what she is being accused of..  I would have been going off on tangents.  Can you imagine, being accused of such a crime and being innocent?  There would be no way, my mouth would be shut and allowing my lawyer to say..."when this all comes out, we will the understand".. yeah, right, frig that... I would be grabbing the mic! 

I would also be screaming to high heaven about being locked up in jail while my defense team delays, delays, delays. Maybe she likes being where Spindy can't nag her.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

I wish we could see the pysch eval. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 09:52:36 AM
I see Fox is going to carry the hearing live.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 09:53:50 AM
(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/monkey-cart.gif)  Good morning Monkeys.  Looks like a nice day for a civil hearing!  I hope the Judge is ready this morning.

 ::MonkeyWeight::

Morning cece....no way could I lift weights this morning!!  I saw the weight monkey gif and figured Klaas musta been bored this weekend!  LOL ::MonkeyWhistle::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BooMonkey on September 08, 2009, 09:55:31 AM
All I'm getting is a blank screen, does anyone see anything yet??   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 09:55:37 AM
does anyone remember how to get in to see how much money casey has in her jail fund? was just curious we dont hear about that anymore


I was trying to find that out today myself. If I do, I'll let you know.

*******************

thank you Fanny

I was looking and didn't see anything either.I believe the media requested it before.    ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 09:57:11 AM
All I'm getting is a blank screen, does anyone see anything yet??   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Same here on FOX...anyone else getting anything anywhere?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 09:57:20 AM
All I'm getting is a blank screen, does anyone see anything yet??   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Still a blank screen.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 08, 2009, 09:58:02 AM
(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/monkey-cart.gif)  Good morning Monkeys.  Looks like a nice day for a civil hearing!  I hope the Judge is ready this morning.

 ::MonkeyWeight::

Morning cece....no way could I lift weights this morning!!  I saw the weight monkey gif and figured Klaas musta been bored this weekend!  LOL ::MonkeyWhistle::

Morning Sunny!  I couldn't find the waving cow, so I went for the weight lifter :)

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live

myfoxorlando will have it streaming.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 09:58:05 AM
All I'm getting is a blank screen, does anyone see anything yet??   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hey Boo.   ::MonkeyBike::  I see nothing.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 08, 2009, 09:58:55 AM
All I'm getting is a blank screen, does anyone see anything yet??   ::MonkeyNoNo::
Black screen here too. 2 minutes to go tho.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 10:01:08 AM
(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/monkey-cart.gif)  Good morning Monkeys.  Looks like a nice day for a civil hearing!  I hope the Judge is ready this morning.

 ::MonkeyWeight::

Morning cece....no way could I lift weights this morning!!  I saw the weight monkey gif and figured Klaas musta been bored this weekend!  LOL ::MonkeyWhistle::

Morning Sunny!  I couldn't find the waving cow, so I went for the weight lifter :)

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live

myfoxorlando will have it streaming.

cece, that's where I am but nothing....are you getting anything? ::CowWave::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Jesse on September 08, 2009, 10:01:32 AM
blank here too


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on September 08, 2009, 10:02:25 AM
good morning monkey...popping in for a bit...
anymonkey real quick got a pic of the pool with the latter up.  that latter is BIG!  now,
1) how did it get in the pool in the first place?
2) that shove had to have been very long to get that size latter out of the pool. jmo ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 08, 2009, 10:03:11 AM
(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/monkey-cart.gif)  Good morning Monkeys.  Looks like a nice day for a civil hearing!  I hope the Judge is ready this morning.

 ::MonkeyWeight::

Morning cece....no way could I lift weights this morning!!  I saw the weight monkey gif and figured Klaas musta been bored this weekend!  LOL ::MonkeyWhistle::

Morning Sunny!  I couldn't find the waving cow, so I went for the weight lifter :)

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live

myfoxorlando will have it streaming.

cece, that's where I am but nothing....are you getting anything? ::CowWave::

Nothing yet.  Also here:

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19046963/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 10:03:59 AM
blank here too

Holey Moley...I had the volume turned up and a shrill noise started and scared the hell outta me....now I see color stripes....and that shrill noise...dang I am going for me coffee!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: monkalicious on September 08, 2009, 10:04:23 AM
Mine's still blank, too.  Oh, wait, here's the annoying 
 noise thingy. (Technically challenged, sorry.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 10:07:14 AM
good morning monkey...popping in for a bit...
anymonkey real quick got a pic of the pool with the latter up.  that latter is BIG!  now,
1) how did it get in the pool in the first place?
2) that shove had to have been very long to get that size latter out of the pool. jmo ::MonkeyBike::

I don't think the ladder is what she was using the shovel for. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 08, 2009, 10:08:00 AM
http://www.wftv.com/video/20790048/index.html

(nothing yet)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 10:09:13 AM
Mine's still blank, too.  Oh, wait, here's the annoying 
 noise thingy. (Technically challenged, sorry.)

That means the satellite truck is up and sending a signal. Court must be late. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 10:09:49 AM
http://www.wftv.com/video/20790048/index.html

(nothing yet)

Why am I getting the feeling the hearing has been canceled and no one told US! ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Jesse on September 08, 2009, 10:10:09 AM
OMG what is going on?? why cant we see anything


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 08, 2009, 10:10:27 AM
Mine's still blank, too.  Oh, wait, here's the annoying 
 noise thingy. (Technically challenged, sorry.)

That means the satellite truck is up and sending a signal. Court must be late. JMO

Is this the Judge that didn't want the hearing broadcast originally?  (Or do I have him confused with someone else?)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 08, 2009, 10:12:03 AM
OMG what is going on?? why cant we see anything

I wonder if the Judge is late & doesn't want any filming until he is in the courtroom?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on September 08, 2009, 10:12:07 AM
good morning monkey...popping in for a bit...
anymonkey real quick got a pic of the pool with the latter up.  that latter is BIG!  now,
1) how did it get in the pool in the first place?
2) that shove had to have been very long to get that size latter out of the pool. jmo ::MonkeyBike::

I don't think the ladder is what she was using the shovel for. JMO
i agree.  i'm just trying to figure out how she thought that would be even something to mention.  that latter is BIG. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 08, 2009, 10:12:51 AM
Another link to live feed.....if it would just get started, we have it covered!!   http://mfile.akamai.com/12909/live/reflector:20877.asx


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 10:13:26 AM
Mine's still blank, too.  Oh, wait, here's the annoying 
 noise thingy. (Technically challenged, sorry.)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BooMonkey on September 08, 2009, 10:13:48 AM
All I'm getting is a blank screen, does anyone see anything yet??   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hey Boo.   ::MonkeyBike::  I see nothing.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Morning Trim, you look very beautiful this morning! I love the falling leaves.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 10:14:20 AM
CRAP I called Fox and was told it will be on the WEB at 5PM...they are not covering it live...she said try channel 13?  Anyone know what channel 13 is??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 10:14:53 AM
Mine's still blank, too.  Oh, wait, here's the annoying 
 noise thingy. (Technically challenged, sorry.)

That means the satellite truck is up and sending a signal. Court must be late. JMO

Is this the Judge that didn't want the hearing broadcast originally?  (Or do I have him confused with someone else?)

I don't remember that.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 10:15:05 AM
http://www.wftv.com/video/20790048/index.html

(nothing yet)

Why am I getting the feeling the hearing has been canceled and no one told US! ::MonkeyMad::

 ::MonkeyNoNo:: No,we will not have that happen today.   ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: monkalicious on September 08, 2009, 10:15:20 AM
I have to leave in about 6 minutes.   ::MonkeyWaa:: I'll be back and hopefully there will  be good news!  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 10:16:07 AM
CRAP I called Fox and was told it will be on the WEB at 5PM...they are not covering it live...she said try channel 13?  Anyone know what channel 13 is??

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19046963/index.html

Nothing there yet either.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BooMonkey on September 08, 2009, 10:16:07 AM
OOO I got traffic now!  ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 08, 2009, 10:16:19 AM
CRAP I called Fox and was told it will be on the WEB at 5PM...they are not covering it live...she said try channel 13?  Anyone know what channel 13 is??

http://cfnews13.com/

(But I don't see a banner of them covering it)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 10:19:13 AM
CRAP I called Fox and was told it will be on the WEB at 5PM...they are not covering it live...she said try channel 13?  Anyone know what channel 13 is??


Sunny,I am using WFTV.It says the hearing has not started yet.
http://www.wftv.com/video/20790048/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 10:19:25 AM
Sorry, this is Chan 13, no live stream.

http://www.cfnews13.com/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Jesse on September 08, 2009, 10:19:28 AM
http://www.wftv.com/video/20790048/index.html

try this


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: monkalicious on September 08, 2009, 10:20:01 AM
CRAP I called Fox and was told it will be on the WEB at 5PM...they are not covering it live...she said try channel 13?  Anyone know what channel 13 is??
Sunny, it's WFTV, I believe.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 08, 2009, 10:20:37 AM
WATCH LIVE NOW: 10:00AM Casey Hearing Has Yet To Start

 ::MonkeyLaugh::

(Banner at wftv)

http://www.wftv.com/video/20790048/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: monkalicious on September 08, 2009, 10:21:21 AM
CRAP I called Fox and was told it will be on the WEB at 5PM...they are not covering it live...she said try channel 13?  Anyone know what channel 13 is??
Sunny, it's WFTV, I believe.
Edit:  Maybe I'm wrong, WFTV is channel 9.  WESH, perhaps?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Blaze on September 08, 2009, 10:22:17 AM
Was doing some old reading....read where the forensic testing showed that Caylee most likely died from Suffication.  So started to think she sufficated because the duct tape was around her mouth and nose...but I wonder what the chances were that Caylee would rip the duct tape off with her hands.  I don't see any mention that her little hands were bound.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on September 08, 2009, 10:26:00 AM
uggg gotta go to work.  y'all save my seat please ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: monkalicious on September 08, 2009, 10:28:42 AM
uggg gotta go to work.  y'all save my seat please ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyKiss::
Save one for me, too.  Gotta take my mother out for the day!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on September 08, 2009, 10:30:11 AM
got a picture now


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 10:30:43 AM
Video, no sound yet.

http://www.wftv.com/video/20790048/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 10:34:18 AM
Video, no sound yet.

http://www.wftv.com/video/20790048/index.html

from the website:  WATCH LIVE NOW: 10:00AM Casey Hearing Has Yet To Start

I can never get the video on this site so y'all that get it, please give us a play by play!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Jesse on September 08, 2009, 10:34:27 AM
so judge is there but no bozo...is he not doing this one


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 10:36:03 AM
FOX has it!!!!  but no sound!!  That lady must not have known what she was talking about!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BooMonkey on September 08, 2009, 10:36:18 AM
Arrggg!  ::MonkeyMad:: They trying to kill us??? What use is video if we can't hear?? Bozo is probably behind the camera cutting off the sound!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Jesse on September 08, 2009, 10:37:12 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19046963/index.html

there is sound here


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 08, 2009, 10:38:29 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19046963/index.html

there is sound here
Thank-you  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 10:38:45 AM
Tupelo's link has sound too!

http://mfile.akamai.com/12909/live/reflector:20877.asx


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 08, 2009, 10:38:57 AM
so judge is there but no bozo...is he not doing this one

I think Kassen is the one doing the civil.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on September 08, 2009, 10:39:15 AM
FOX has it!!!!  but no sound!!  That lady must not have known what she was talking about!!



clickorlando has sound-chan 6


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 10:40:22 AM
Thanks Jesse.   ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Jesse on September 08, 2009, 10:41:57 AM
you are welcome....this guy is type A....he never does a good job, i hope he doesnt get the what he wants...so bozo isnt there...amazing


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Jesse on September 08, 2009, 10:42:34 AM
i think judge is already bored with him


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: TOY on September 08, 2009, 10:44:09 AM
Sound here....

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19046963/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 08, 2009, 10:44:32 AM
i think judge is already bored with him
The case he is sighting, is he saying Jews for Jesus  ::MonkeyConfused::  I have heard it two times  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 08, 2009, 10:45:50 AM
i think judge is already bored with him
The case he is sighting, is he saying Jews for Jesus  ::MonkeyConfused::  I have heard it two times  ::MonkeyConfused::

That's what I heard NoRose.   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 10:46:34 AM
I can't believe Baez didn't show up for this...........

Hi Monkeys!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 08, 2009, 10:46:56 AM
i think judge is already bored with him
The case he is sighting, is he saying Jews for Jesus  ::MonkeyConfused::  I have heard it two times  ::MonkeyConfused::

That's what I heard NoRose.   ::MonkeyConfused::
Thanks I thought I was losing my hearing along with my eyesight  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 08, 2009, 10:47:18 AM
 ::MonkeyLaugh::  He tried to bring up the billboards & got slammed by the Judge!   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on September 08, 2009, 10:47:45 AM
No nonsense judge, he already threatened to stop the hearing, lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BooMonkey on September 08, 2009, 10:48:02 AM
Oooooo Judge is getting pissy with him!!  ::MonkeyCheer2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 10:48:32 AM
 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Kassen just got a big slap from the judge!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 10:48:59 AM
Some people don't know when to stop.  He was gaining the attention of the court on the merits but he blew it with his jabs at Mitnick and his publicity. 
Never pi$$$$$$$$$$$$ the judge off.  He has an uphill battle now!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 08, 2009, 10:49:17 AM
Judge won't jump to conclusions regarding "frivilous"!   ::MonkeyCheer3::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 10:49:43 AM
I can't believe Baez didn't show up for this...........

Hi Monkeys!

Hey CBB.   ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 08, 2009, 10:50:27 AM
Had to get the kids to their school buses.  Can someone catch me up on what I missed so far please.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 10:50:37 AM
I can't believe Baez didn't show up for this...........

Hi Monkeys!

He is not on this case.  Funny casey can have a separate lawyer for the ZG case, but not for the fraud case!   Total BS. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 10:51:15 AM
I can't believe Baez didn't show up for this...........

Hi Monkeys!

Hey CBB.   ::MonkeyBike::

Hi Trimm! I got here a little late. Did they show the Ants? Are they there? TIA!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 08, 2009, 10:51:26 AM
I can't believe Baez didn't show up for this...........

Hi Monkeys!

 ::CowWave::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on September 08, 2009, 10:52:30 AM
How arrogant for the defense to ask for atty fees pertaining to this case!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 08, 2009, 10:56:29 AM
I can't believe Baez didn't show up for this...........

Hi Monkeys!

Hey CBB.   ::MonkeyBike::

Hi Trimm! I got here a little late. Did they show the Ants? Are they there? TIA!

I haven't seen the gallery, but maybe someone else has.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 10:57:16 AM
I can't believe Baez didn't show up for this...........

Hi Monkeys!

Hey CBB.   ::MonkeyBike::

Hi Trimm! I got here a little late. Did they show the Ants? Are they there? TIA!

I haven't seen them.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BooMonkey on September 08, 2009, 10:57:50 AM
How arrogant for the defense to ask for atty fees pertaining to this case!!!

I KNOW!!!! I can't believe he said that!!! These guys are just trying to throw as much chit as they can and see what sticks. Thank goodness we have Teflon Stan!!!  ::MonkeyCheer3::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Blaze on September 08, 2009, 10:58:44 AM
When they say that the laundry/garbage bag was buried, what do they mean?  I didn't think it was underground.  I thought just tossed ontop, at one point under water.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 08, 2009, 10:59:57 AM
Casey has never dropped her counter suit against Zanny, has she?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 11:00:41 AM
Wow! Wouldn't it be something for this to go forward compelling the Ants to answer questions because Cindy shot off her mouth, and then the depositions in this case just tied up the loose threads in the murder case?

Casey found guilty because of Cindy? Whoa..........

 ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 11:02:13 AM
Interesting article on what Mitnick is arguing right now.
http://mavrkylawofdefamation.blogspot.com/2007/01/malice-in-qualified-privilege.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 11:02:39 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20773704/detail.html
Casey Anthony Seeks To Get Civil Suit Dismissed
Zenaida Gonzalez Says Anthony Ruined Her Reputation

POSTED: 10:16 am EDT September 7, 2009
UPDATED: 10:54 am EDT September 8, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Attorneys for Casey Anthony are in court Tuesday morning seeking to get a civil lawsuit dismissed.
The hearing started about 10:35 a.m. (Watch Hearing Live)

Zenaida Gonzalez -- the woman who claims Casey ruined her reputation by saying someone with her name abducted Caylee Anthony -- is pursuing a civil defamation case. Anthony's attorneys want it dismissed, saying her attorneys can not show the alleged defamatory statement was directed at the Zenaida Gonzalez who has filed the lawsuit.

Casey Anthony is in the Orange County jail charged with murder in the death of her daughter Caylee, who was 2 when she was reported missing in 2008.
Anthony's attorney Jonathan Kasen said the lawsuit is "frivolous" in his quest to have it dismissed. Als he said firm that filed the suit, Morgan and Morgan, "works off of publicity."

An attorney for Gonzalez are now answering Kasen's assertions.
<snipped>


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 11:03:17 AM
Casey has never dropped her counter suit against Zanny, has she?

Hi cece! I don't think so. At least it hasn't been reported that she has.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 11:04:04 AM
Had to get the kids to their school buses.  Can someone catch me up on what I missed so far please.

NORTHERN, Kassen started out pretty good, but he sunk to his usual low, and started attacking Mitnick and the Judge stopped him and threatened to stop the hearing.. I went downhill from there then, but I am prejudiced. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 08, 2009, 11:04:56 AM
Wow! Wouldn't it be something for this to go forward compelling the Ants to answer questions because Cindy shot off her mouth, and then the depositions in this case just tied up the loose threads in the murder case?

Casey found guilty because of Cindy? Whoa..........

 ::MonkeyDevil2::

 ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 11:05:21 AM
Casey has never dropped her counter suit against Zanny, has she?

I think it is still on the table.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 11:05:43 AM
I can't figure out if this judge is "camera aware" or just tedious all the time............


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Jesse on September 08, 2009, 11:06:51 AM
oh boy, i think strickand is going to side with defense


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BooMonkey on September 08, 2009, 11:06:51 AM
Wow! Wouldn't it be something for this to go forward compelling the Ants to answer questions because Cindy shot off her mouth, and then the depositions in this case just tied up the loose threads in the murder case?

Casey found guilty because of Cindy? Whoa..........

 ::MonkeyDevil2::

Oh CBB stop teasing us! That was just be sooooo delicious!  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on September 08, 2009, 11:07:10 AM
Sounds like the judge would like them to request  a gag order. I hope not!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 11:07:10 AM
Judge is not loving the media and sounds like all casey attorney needs to do is ask for a gag order and he will issue it.
I like Stan better!  He knows we the public want to know.  But, flip side - I do understand the legal reason he is being protective.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 08, 2009, 11:08:53 AM
Had to get the kids to their school buses.  Can someone catch me up on what I missed so far please.

NORTHERN, Kassen started out pretty good, but he sunk to his usual low, and started attacking Mitnick and the Judge stopped him and threatened to stop the hearing.. I went downhill from there then, but I am prejudiced. JMO

TYVM Fanny.  It is not sounding good for ZG here.  I am leaning at not liking this judge as he gets his exercise jumping to conclusions. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 11:09:07 AM
I can't figure out if this judge is "camera aware" or just tedious all the time............

Is this Judge Rodriguez?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 11:10:31 AM
Well................ I would argue that BECAUSE there is a related case of such weight, we NEED to get all the information, all the truth out. The Ants need to be forced to answer any question put to them concerning Casey, Caylee, or anyone else tat might shed some truth on the entire situation. Casey's the one that put this on the table in relation to Caylee, and Cindy and George bolstered it by affirming that ZG existed. They need to answer questions before Casey's trial in order to bring the whole picture to that trial.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 11:10:42 AM
oh boy, i think strickand is going to side with defense

http://www.ninja9.org/courts/judges/rodriguez.htm  This is the judge today.


I wish Metnick would say, it needs to go forward now and in the public eye, because the defamation to his client was done that way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: TOY on September 08, 2009, 11:11:14 AM
Is anyone else getting the vibe that the judge is going to postpone the civil until after the criminal?  I think he is leaning more toward the criminal taking precedence.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 08, 2009, 11:11:46 AM
I can't figure out if this judge is "camera aware" or just tedious all the time............

Is this Judge Rodriguez?

I thought it was, but everyone is saying Strickland so I am   ::MonkeyConfused::

It sounds like Rodriguez and not Stan to me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 08, 2009, 11:12:02 AM
I can't figure out if this judge is "camera aware" or just tedious all the time............

Is this Judge Rodriguez?

I think it is.

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/CAYLEE/47004189.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 11:12:18 AM
Is anyone else getting the vibe that the judge is going to postpone the civil until after the criminal?  I think he is leaning more toward the criminal taking precedence.

Yeah............... and I don't think it's right!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 11:13:00 AM
I can't figure out if this judge is "camera aware" or just tedious all the time............

Is this Judge Rodriguez?

I thought it was, but everyone is saying Strickland so I am   ::MonkeyConfused::

It sounds like Rodriguez and not Stan to me.

This isn't Strickland.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BooMonkey on September 08, 2009, 11:13:02 AM
OOOOoooo I loved that Movie Hobson's Choice!!! If anyone has the one with Sharon Gless, I need a copy!!  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 08, 2009, 11:13:36 AM
Is anyone else getting the vibe that the judge is going to postpone the civil until after the criminal?  I think he is leaning more toward the criminal taking precedence.

Sounds that way to me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 08, 2009, 11:14:28 AM
I don't like this judge at all.  I think he is trying to do the defenses job..and that isn't his job.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 08, 2009, 11:15:01 AM
Casey’s Lawyers Try To Delay Zenaida’s Lawsuit

<snipped>

ORLANDO -- The first of two hearings in the civil case against Casey Anthony begins Tuesday.

Zenaida Gonzalez is suing Casey, saying she ruined her name by claiming a babysitter by the same name kidnapped Casey’s murdered 2-year-old daughter, Caylee.

Casey Anthony’s lawyers will present a renewed motion to Judge Jose Rodriguez to get the complaint against their client dismissed or delayed until her death penalty case in Caylee’s murder is over.

At the second hearing, scheduled for 3:15 p.m. Wednesday, Gonzalez’s attorneys will ask the judge to force Casey’s parents, George and Cindy Anthony, to answer more questions.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/9/8/caseys_lawyers_try_to_delay_zenaidas_lawsuit.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: TOY on September 08, 2009, 11:19:15 AM
In this particular case I definitely want to see the civil first since I think the criminal trial would "benefit" from it.  I'm afraid I have no semblance of non-prejudice toward Casey.

However, when I step away from "this" case and hear the argument of life vs. money, I do have to agree that life itself should trump money.  (In this case life meaning living rather than imprisonment for life.)

I am just so thankful that I am not a registered voter in that  area and subject to possibly being on the jury pool.  There is no way that I could weigh anything in a fair manner in this case! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on September 08, 2009, 11:19:15 AM
Is anyone else getting the vibe that the judge is going to postpone the civil until after the criminal?  I think he is leaning more toward the criminal taking precedence.

Sounds that way to me.



Here's the catch. If the civil case is delayed till after the criminal case, this could drag out for many many years. If KC is found guilty of murder there will be appeals forever and the civil case will never get heard!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Jesse on September 08, 2009, 11:24:47 AM
yea i think that the defense will win this one


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 11:25:15 AM
This isn't sounding very promising...........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 11:25:33 AM
oh boy, i think strickand is going to side with defense

so do I!  it sounded like he was begging for one or the other to ask for a gag order.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 08, 2009, 11:25:54 AM
I don't like this judge at all.  I think he is trying to do the defenses job..and that isn't his job.

I agree.  He is sounding like a professor not a Judge to me.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 08, 2009, 11:26:37 AM
I don't like this judge at all.  I think he is trying to do the defenses job..and that isn't his job.

I do not care for him either ... ; Mitnick is excellent in his arguments.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Jesse on September 08, 2009, 11:27:54 AM
this defense lawyer is such a little snake...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 11:28:11 AM
Is anyone else getting the vibe that the judge is going to postpone the civil until after the criminal?  I think he is leaning more toward the criminal taking precedence.

Sounds that way to me.

me too. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 11:30:27 AM
I guess because it's a death penalty case, the truth is not important.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 11:31:06 AM
There's one thing............... ZG's atty is asking Cindy and George to answer questions, not Casey, so I don't get how the case law screws up Casey's rights.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 08, 2009, 11:32:17 AM
I guess because it's a death penalty case, the truth is not important.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

And Stan the Man already said the check fraud case could go forward.   ::MonkeyGavel::

Why not Zanny?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: karenmamo on September 08, 2009, 11:32:51 AM
Is anyone else getting the vibe that the judge is going to postpone the civil until after the criminal?  I think he is leaning more toward the criminal taking precedence.

Sounds that way to me.

me too. ::MonkeyMad::

Shame on that judge!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 11:33:15 AM
If ZG's atty is asking for Casey to answer questions, then he can forget it. That's not going to happen, and by law, it shouldn't. To me, George and Cindy are another matter.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 11:33:16 AM
I had to step away, but the argument casey's attorney is making right now is strong.  And, it might be in the best interest of preservation of justice that he rule this case waits, IMHO.  Don't get me wrong - I want to have georgie and cindy to be compelled to talk and I want answers now - but long term, I want justice for Caylee and this case being tabled is a small price to pay, if that is how he rules.

Judge - meet rock and a hard place.  This is hard one.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 11:33:20 AM
this defense lawyer is such a little snake...

He looks like the proverbial "used car salesman" to me. Or snake oil salesman.  Sorry, if any used car salesmen are here.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 11:34:02 AM
I guess because it's a death penalty case, the truth is not important.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

And Stan the Man already said the check fraud case could go forward.   ::MonkeyGavel::

Why not Zanny?

Good question!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 08, 2009, 11:35:52 AM
Did the lawyer just tell a fib?  There was no one in the questioning except the lawyers and the Ants.  I am liking that the Judge has dressed him down on this as that was a whopper.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 11:36:07 AM
I had to step away, but the argument casey's attorney is making right now is strong.  And, it might be in the best interest of preservation of justice that he rule this case waits, IMHO.  Don't get me wrong - I want to have georgie and cindy to be compelled to talk and I want answers now - but long term, I want justice for Caylee and this case being tabled is a small price to pay, if that is how he rules.

Judge - meet rock and a hard place.  This is hard one.

None of us would want a decision that would get a guilty verdict overturned on appeal. You're right ANJ!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 11:38:43 AM
The judge is practically begging one of the to ask for a gag order.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 11:39:38 AM
Oh, this judge is driving me nuts. Now he's playing "Which Hand is the button in?"

If there's something the attys need to address, ASK THEM about it! Geez........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 11:40:04 AM
If ZG's atty is asking for Casey to answer questions, then he can forget it. That's not going to happen, and by law, it shouldn't. To me, George and Cindy are another matter.

Exactly and that is why the judge is even leading what should have been done and argued (he is hinting at them) and he is actually doing the right thing, IMHO.  We don't want this case to destroy the criminal case. 

georgie and cindy might have to wait for justice for Caylee.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on September 08, 2009, 11:40:15 AM
Oh KC's atty is grasping at straws. You cannot unintentionally collude!! He needs to look up the definition of the word collude!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 11:41:31 AM
Judge R keeps interrupting!!! ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 11:43:03 AM
If ZG's atty is asking for Casey to answer questions, then he can forget it. That's not going to happen, and by law, it shouldn't. To me, George and Cindy are another matter.

Exactly and that is why the judge is even leading what should have been done and argued (he is hinting at them) and he is actually doing the right thing, IMHO.  We don't want this case to destroy the criminal case. 

georgie and cindy might have to wait for justice for Caylee.



Take Casey off the table and compel George and Cindy to answer all questions. That's Judge CBB's decision!  ::MonkeyTease::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 11:45:47 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20773704/detail.html
<snipped>
Casey Anthony is not at the hearing, and neither are her parents, Cindy and George Anthony.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 11:46:26 AM
Oh KC's atty is grasping at straws. You cannot unintentionally collude!! He needs to look up the definition of the word collude!!!!

Both sides are grasping at straws - but, I think the judge has a basic premise of law he is disappointed that the attorney's have not addressed.  I also think he is definitely sending message to casey defense he failed her by not asking for gag order. 

Mitnick needs to show his client was harmed in the media and continues to be harmed today.  That is his best shot, IMHO.  But like I have been saying - Sorry, ZG, but for Caylee's sake don't destroy a fair trial. 
Again, not what we want (no instant gratification :-(  )  but, long term we will be smiling like a banana turned on it's side like a smile. 
All, IMHO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 11:46:29 AM
OHMYGAWD!  Judge R just mocked Nitnik's southern accent.....BITE ME Judge!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 08, 2009, 11:46:30 AM
The judge is practically begging one of the to ask for a gag order.

I've always thought that this judge felt overwhelmed with this case because of it's notoriety.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 11:49:36 AM
Now, will judge like who is on the panel for what Mitnic is arguing about the 9 month time frame from the 3rd DCA.  Yikes, sounds like he is not a fan of the judges on the 3rd DCA.   :-(


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 11:50:46 AM
OHMYGAWD!  Judge R just mocked Nitnik's southern accent.....BITE ME Judge!!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

OMG............... Sunny's got her Big Girl Panties out. Buckle Up Monkies!  ::MonkeyTongue::

I don't think this Judge is going to render a decision today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 08, 2009, 11:50:46 AM
Judge?   Morelike foregone conclusion....
He had this motion decided before Mitnik ever opened his mouth...  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 08, 2009, 11:51:22 AM
If ZG's atty is asking for Casey to answer questions, then he can forget it. That's not going to happen, and by law, it shouldn't. To me, George and Cindy are another matter.

Exactly and that is why the judge is even leading what should have been done and argued (he is hinting at them) and he is actually doing the right thing, IMHO.  We don't want this case to destroy the criminal case. 

georgie and cindy might have to wait for justice for Caylee.



Take Casey off the table and compel George and Cindy to answer all questions. That's Judge CBB's decision!  ::MonkeyTease::

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 08, 2009, 11:51:35 AM
Why is the counter suit not being brought up for argument?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 08, 2009, 11:52:07 AM
So the judge needs time to review - 1 month he says.  He reads slowly?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 11:52:52 AM
 Did Judge R just say it was going to take him a month.....give or take a week to rule on this????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: karenmamo on September 08, 2009, 11:53:04 AM
Z's atty is making strong arguments.  Seems this judge wants all the arguments...JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 08, 2009, 11:53:36 AM
OK the judge wants briefs.  Someone give the man a pair of briefs!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 08, 2009, 11:54:30 AM
Did Judge R just say it was going to take him a month.....give or take a week to rule on this????

That is what I heard.  I would love that throw up monkey icon right now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 11:54:32 AM
If ZG's atty is asking for Casey to answer questions, then he can forget it. That's not going to happen, and by law, it shouldn't. To me, George and Cindy are another matter.

Exactly and that is why the judge is even leading what should have been done and argued (he is hinting at them) and he is actually doing the right thing, IMHO.  We don't want this case to destroy the criminal case. 

georgie and cindy might have to wait for justice for Caylee.  Meaning Morgan and co. might have to wait......... but, see below....



Take Casey off the table and compel George and Cindy to answer all questions. That's Judge CBB's decision!  ::MonkeyTease::

Perhaps what they should do - is drop the case against casey for now and pursue one on cindy!!!!!!!!!!!  Now that is an idea?!?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 11:55:51 AM
If ZG's atty is asking for Casey to answer questions, then he can forget it. That's not going to happen, and by law, it shouldn't. To me, George and Cindy are another matter.

Exactly and that is why the judge is even leading what should have been done and argued (he is hinting at them) and he is actually doing the right thing, IMHO.  We don't want this case to destroy the criminal case. 

georgie and cindy might have to wait for justice for Caylee.



Take Casey off the table and compel George and Cindy to answer all questions. That's Judge CBB's decision!  ::MonkeyTease::

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

Yea! We could rule the world, cece!

We don't have that Y chromosome that befuddles the mind. 

 :smt040

It wouldn't take us a month to make up our mind, either!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 11:56:00 AM
Why is the counter suit not being brought up for argument?

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!  I want to know that too.  I swear I might call Morgan and ask........grrrrr


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on September 08, 2009, 11:56:04 AM
Oh KC's atty is grasping at straws. You cannot unintentionally collude!! He needs to look up the definition of the word collude!!!!

Both sides are grasping at straws - but, I think the judge has a basic premise of law he is disappointed that the attorney's have not addressed.  I also think he is definitely sending message to casey defense he failed her by not asking for gag order. 

Mitnick needs to show his client was harmed in the media and continues to be harmed today.  That is his best shot, IMHO.  But like I have been saying - Sorry, ZG, but for Caylee's sake don't destroy a fair trial. 
Again, not what we want (no instant gratification :-(  )  but, long term we will be smiling like a banana turned on it's side like a smile. 
All, IMHO.



That was a really cheap shot to make the insinuating remark that ZG’s atty was acting together with the SA to secretly achieve a fraudulent, illegal, or deceitful purpose, albeit unintentionally(which isn’t possible). Just makes me angry that he slipped that in!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 08, 2009, 11:56:05 AM
This judge is getting on my last nerve interrupting and talking over the attorney!!!! ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 11:56:20 AM
OHMYGAWD!  Judge R just mocked Nitnik's southern accent.....BITE ME Judge!!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

OMG............... Sunny's got her Big Girl Panties out. Buckle Up Monkies!  ::MonkeyTongue::

I don't think this Judge is going to render a decision today.

this Judge made me strip off NEKKID!!  He is RUDE!!!  No he is not going to make a decision today ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Miki Monkey on September 08, 2009, 11:56:22 AM
I would just like to make a quick comment here, the only reason for people not to show up for something that concerns them this much is that they are expecting a favorable outcome...I have my big girl panties on too.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 08, 2009, 11:57:00 AM
WOW........nothing more than wow.  That did not end well. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 11:57:20 AM
OK the judge wants briefs.  Someone give the man a pair of briefs!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Give him Sunny's Big Girl Panties!   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: karenmamo on September 08, 2009, 11:57:34 AM
...recess?...great..hope the judge looks at all the angles-that is all we can ask.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 11:57:52 AM
Recess ..............  He is taking it under advisement, a month - give or take a week............


IMHO - not a bad thing.  Better right than appeals.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 11:58:00 AM
OK the judge wants briefs.  Someone give the man a pair of briefs!

Give hims Lyons briefs!!  DIRTY ONES PLEASE!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 08, 2009, 11:58:41 AM
Oh BOO Hoo Judge.....no sleep! Ask Zenaida how many sleepless nights she's had and will continue to have...... ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 11:59:09 AM
Did Judge R just say it was going to take him a month.....give or take a week to rule on this????

That is what I heard.  I would love that throw up monkey icon right now.

 :pukel: :puker: :pukel: :puker: :pukel: :puker: :pukel: :puker: :pukel: :puker:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 11:59:17 AM
I would just like to make a quick comment here, the only reason for people not to show up for something that concerns them this much is that they are expecting a favorable outcome...I have my big girl panties on too.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Well the civil case is still ongoing, so Spindy and George WILL have to show up tomorrow. IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 12:00:22 PM
Why is the counter suit not being brought up for argument?

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!  I want to know that too.  I swear I might call Morgan and ask........grrrrr

Go for it!!!   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 08, 2009, 12:00:34 PM
I guess having lunch on time is more important to JR. I do not like this judge, haven't from the beginning. Why would he need so long to make his ruling? 2 - 6 weeks for his decision? Baloney!   :gaah:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 08, 2009, 12:01:20 PM
Did Judge R just say it was going to take him a month.....give or take a week to rule on this????

That is what I heard.  I would love that throw up monkey icon right now.

TY  ::MonkeyDevil2::

 :pukel: :puker: :pukel: :puker: :pukel: :puker: :pukel: :puker: :pukel: :puker:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 12:01:46 PM
Oh BOO Hoo Judge.....no sleep! Ask Zenaida how many sleepless nights she's had and will continue to have...... ::MonkeyMad::

That's a good question to have asked, seeme!

Well, I don't expect this decision to be favorable, but in the end, it may well be the best.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 08, 2009, 12:01:53 PM
If ZG's atty is asking for Casey to answer questions, then he can forget it. That's not going to happen, and by law, it shouldn't. To me, George and Cindy are another matter.

Exactly and that is why the judge is even leading what should have been done and argued (he is hinting at them) and he is actually doing the right thing, IMHO.  We don't want this case to destroy the criminal case. 

georgie and cindy might have to wait for justice for Caylee.



Take Casey off the table and compel George and Cindy to answer all questions. That's Judge CBB's decision!  ::MonkeyTease::

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

Yea! We could rule the world, cece!

We don't have that Y chromosome that befuddles the mind. 

 :smt040

It wouldn't take us a month to make up our mind, either!   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Didn't someone post a poll on the Judge's & it was said that Rodriguez needed to speed up his courtroom or calendar?  Does anyone remember that?  I think it was a poll where Judges ranked other Judges performance.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 08, 2009, 12:02:43 PM
Oh BOO Hoo Judge.....no sleep! Ask Zenaida how many sleepless nights she's had and will continue to have...... ::MonkeyMad::

No kidding ... her whole life has been turned upside down by slander.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 12:03:18 PM
Z's atty is making strong arguments.  Seems this judge wants all the arguments...JMO

he acys like he is down on the media...but I think he is loving it!!   ::MonkeyTease::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 12:04:36 PM
This judge is getting on my last nerve interrupting and talking over the attorney!!!! ::MonkeyMad::

Amen!1 He is RUDE!  and IMO he was playing for the camera!! ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 08, 2009, 12:04:59 PM
Z's atty is making strong arguments.  Seems this judge wants all the arguments...JMO

he acys like he is down on the media...but I think he is loving it!!   ::MonkeyTease::

Judge R reminds me of the Anna Nicole Judge, and I did not like him and his style.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 12:05:40 PM
I would just like to make a quick comment here, the only reason for people not to show up for something that concerns them this much is that they are expecting a favorable outcome...I have my big girl panties on too.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Miki I agree....... ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 12:06:12 PM
I don't think Kassen would ask for a gag order because Bozo loves the media and spotlight too much. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 08, 2009, 12:06:51 PM
OK the judge wants briefs.  Someone give the man a pair of briefs!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Give him Sunny's Big Girl Panties!   ::MonkeyDance::

Here are Andrea Lyon's:

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Biggirlpanties.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 08, 2009, 12:07:02 PM
So where we are is the Judge needs a month to check into things and make a ruling
The case tomorrow is still on

Is this correct?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 12:07:22 PM
Z's atty is making strong arguments.  Seems this judge wants all the arguments...JMO

he acys like he is down on the media...but I think he is loving it!!   ::MonkeyTease::

Judge R reminds me of the Anna Nicole Judge, and I did not like him and his style.

At least Rodriguez didn't start crying.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 12:07:53 PM
I don't think Kassen would ask for a gag order because Bozo loves the media and spotlight too much. JMO

They are not partners.  Are they friends???


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 08, 2009, 12:08:02 PM
I would just like to make a quick comment here, the only reason for people not to show up for something that concerns them this much is that they are expecting a favorable outcome...I have my big girl panties on too.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Well the civil case is still ongoing, so Spindy and George WILL have to show up tomorrow. IMO

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

And Conman!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 08, 2009, 12:08:05 PM
Z's atty is making strong arguments.  Seems this judge wants all the arguments...JMO

he acys like he is down on the media...but I think he is loving it!!   ::MonkeyTease::

I think this judge is loving the spotlight too ... he surely loves to hear himself talk ! lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 12:08:36 PM
Z's atty is making strong arguments.  Seems this judge wants all the arguments...JMO

he acys like he is down on the media...but I think he is loving it!!   ::MonkeyTease::

Judge R reminds me of the Anna Nicole Judge, and I did not like him and his style.


NR I agree...if he starts crying in court I will slit my wrists!!! ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 08, 2009, 12:09:04 PM
Z's atty is making strong arguments.  Seems this judge wants all the arguments...JMO

he acys like he is down on the media...but I think he is loving it!!   ::MonkeyTease::

Judge R reminds me of the Anna Nicole Judge, and I did not like him and his style.

At least Rodriguez didn't start crying.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Give him time ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 08, 2009, 12:09:48 PM
Here's my problem with letting this judge delay the trial until after the murder trial...Casey will then not have any money left.  Right now she has money from tv, book and movie rights.  However once she is found guilty of murder the money train legally has to stop.  So one point of a defamation suit is to clear ZG'S name.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 12:10:20 PM
OK the judge wants briefs.  Someone give the man a pair of briefs!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Give him Sunny's Big Girl Panties!   ::MonkeyDance::

Oh no not mine!!  I have needed them sooooooooooooooooo many time and have a feeling I will need them a lot more in the days, weeks, months to come!!  ::MonkeyTease::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 12:11:03 PM
I have to run, baby gets her stitches out today..........but, I think this might be what is bothering the judge based on what he said today.

http://www.legislationline.org/topics/topic/8

I also think if casey attorney doesn't file before the close of business today a request for a gag order, he is stupid.  In addition, if he doesn't - casey can appeal based on inadequate representation.  Much as I would hate to see the flow of information to stop, it seems it must in this case to preserve the higher prize.

All, IMHO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 12:11:18 PM
OK the judge wants briefs.  Someone give the man a pair of briefs!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

Give him Sunny's Big Girl Panties!   ::MonkeyDance::

Here are Andrea Lyon's:

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Biggirlpanties.jpg)

 ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss:: ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 12:12:14 PM
So where we are is the Judge needs a month to check into things and make a ruling
The case tomorrow is still on

Is this correct?

Yes, NR that is what I got out of it!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 08, 2009, 12:12:18 PM
Z's atty is making strong arguments.  Seems this judge wants all the arguments...JMO

he acys like he is down on the media...but I think he is loving it!!   ::MonkeyTease::

Judge R reminds me of the Anna Nicole Judge, and I did not like him and his style.

At least Rodriguez didn't start crying.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

Yet.  The way he is teaching from his bench is making me gag.  I can see him weeping when he gives his ruling as he whines that it took him a month to get to it with sleepless nights.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 12:13:14 PM
IMO, Bozo is calling the shots on all these other cases. JMO
He would be crushed if there were a gag order. IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 12:13:26 PM
I would just like to make a quick comment here, the only reason for people not to show up for something that concerns them this much is that they are expecting a favorable outcome...I have my big girl panties on too.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Well the civil case is still ongoing, so Spindy and George WILL have to show up tomorrow. IMO

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

And Conman!

Wait - and I am going to be late, if i DON'T STOP READING! lol  But, isn't the case re: georgie and cindy the ZG case.  I don't think that was re the fruad case, was it?  Back later today. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 08, 2009, 12:13:31 PM
Z's atty is making strong arguments.  Seems this judge wants all the arguments...JMO

he acys like he is down on the media...but I think he is loving it!!   ::MonkeyTease::

Judge R reminds me of the Anna Nicole Judge, and I did not like him and his style.

At least Rodriguez didn't start crying.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Give him time ...

yup


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 08, 2009, 12:14:57 PM
Sorry Monkeys..posted too soon.

The other point of the defamation is to get ZG money for her not being able to be employed and the suffering it has caused her and her family.

If Casey is in jail destitute due to the expenses of the murder trial..then ZG will never be compensated properly..and the longer this civil case waits ..the more money I feel ZG is due.  But you can't get blood out of a turnip.

So postponing this case will only hurt ZG.  I think you could continue with the civil case if Casey has already pled the 5th...then all you are there to establish is that it was not this ZG who kidnapped Caylee.

You don't have to prove who kidnapped her, just that it wasn't this ZG.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 12:15:25 PM
Z's atty is making strong arguments.  Seems this judge wants all the arguments...JMO

he acts like he is down on the media...but I think he is loving it!!   ::MonkeyTease::

I think this judge is loving the spotlight too ... he surely loves to hear himself talk ! lol

He sure does....I am going to make a voodoo doll for dear Judge R......I was thinking about giving him diarrhea ...but he already has Dara of the mouth so  I will find something else to wish upon him ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 08, 2009, 12:15:45 PM
Here's my problem with letting this judge delay the trial until after the murder trial...Casey will then not have any money left.  Right now she has money from tv, book and movie rights.  However once she is found guilty of murder the money train legally has to stop.  So one point of a defamation suit is to clear ZG'S name.   

Bobo wrote a cheque to the bank for Amy's money.  He can get that pen out again and write a cheque here as well. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 08, 2009, 12:18:04 PM
Casey Anthony attorney tries to get defamation suit delayed
Zenaida Gonzalez filed a defamation lawsuit against Casey Anthony, claiming her reputation was damaged when Anthony claimed a nanny by the name of Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez took Caylee.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-latest-090809,0,1935181.story?track=rss


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 08, 2009, 12:24:30 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20779118/detail.html

Decision Delayed In Anthony Civil Case
23-Year-Old Charged In Death Of Caylee Anthony

POSTED: Monday, September 7, 2009
UPDATED: 12:15 pm EDT September 8, 2009

Decision Delayed In Anthony Civil Case
23-Year-Old Charged In Death Of Caylee Anthony

POSTED: Monday, September 7, 2009
UPDATED: 12:15 pm EDT September 8, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A Florida judge has postponed deciding whether to dismiss a defamation lawsuit filed by a Central Florida woman who claims Casey Anthony damaged her reputation.

The judge in Orlando also delayed deciding whether to postpone the defamation lawsuit until after Anthony's criminal trial on a first-degree murder charge. Prosecutors allege that Anthony killed her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee. Anthony has pleaded not guilty and says a nanny named Zenaida Gonzalez kidnapped Caylee.

Investigators believe Anthony made up the story about the nanny.

A woman named Zenaida Gonzalez claims in the defamation lawsuit that her reputation was damaged as a result of Anthony's story about the nanny.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 12:26:45 PM
Z's atty is making strong arguments.  Seems this judge wants all the arguments...JMO

he acys like he is down on the media...but I think he is loving it!!   ::MonkeyTease::

Judge R reminds me of the Anna Nicole Judge, and I did not like him and his style.

 ::MonkeyRoll:: I hear you, NR.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 08, 2009, 12:26:47 PM
Civil Case Against Casey Takes Center Stage
Posted: 7:30 am EDT September 8, 2009
Updated: 12:09 pm EDT September 8, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The case against Casey Anthony will likely bring another round of tough questions for her parents as early as Tuesday.

George and Cindy Anthony could be held in contempt of court if they do not answer some questions about the case, but first Casey's team of attorneys wants the civil suit against her dismissed. MORE.....

http://www.wftv.com/news/20788309/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 08, 2009, 12:27:13 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20773704/detail.html

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Attorneys for Casey Anthony are in court Tuesday morning seeking to get a civil lawsuit dismissed or at least delayed.

The hearing lasted two hours, and the judge has not issued his ruling yet.

Zenaida Gonzalez -- the woman who claims Casey ruined her reputation by saying someone with her name abducted Caylee Anthony -- is pursuing a civil defamation case. Anthony's attorneys want it dismissed, saying her attorneys can not show the alleged defamatory statement was directed at the Zenaida Gonzalez who has filed the lawsuit.

if they can't get it delayed, they want to have the judge delay it until after Anthony's criminal trial next year.

Casey Anthony is in the Orange County jail charged with murder in the death of her daughter Caylee, who was 2 when she was reported missing in 2008.


Anthony's attorney Jonathan Kasen said the lawsuit is "frivolous" in his quest to have it dismissed. Als he said firm that filed the suit, Morgan and Morgan, "works off of publicity."

Keith Mitnik, an attorney for Gonzalez, said his client is only Zenaida Gonzalez that police interviewed. He also objects to delaying the case, because he said the criminal case could take years.

Casey Anthony is not at the hearing, and neither are her parents, Cindy and George Anthony.

In the second hearing on Wednesday, Zenaida's attorneys will attempt to get Cindy and George Anthony to answer more questions.

They refused to answer certain questions during an earlier deposition. In April, Cindy Anthony refused to answer whether her daughter had used their credit cards without permission. Gonzalez' team wants to establish Casey didn't have the money to pay for a babysitter.

George Anthony refused to answer a number of questions during the depositions and repeatedly threatened to walk out of the sessions. He refused to answer whether Casey Anthony stole from them -- earlier he told an FBI agent she stole from all of them and took money from Caylee's piggy bank. He would also not disclose what information relevant to Gonzalez an investigator discovered while working for him and his wife.

Defense attorney Richard Hornsby said he thinks the judge will tell Gonzalez's attorney to move on with the case.

"It's obvious Zenaida Gonzalez doesn't exist so they need to move on to proving she doesn't exist and securing whatever the damages are," he said.

Sources also told WESH 2 News that Gonzalez's attorneys considered suing Cindy Anthony for allegedly repeating libelous statements she knew were incorrect, but decided against that action.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 08, 2009, 12:27:24 PM
VIDEO REPORT: Attorneys Trying To Get Case Dismissed

http://www.wftv.com/video/20789511/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 12:34:14 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20779118/detail.html
Decision Delayed In Anthony Civil Case
23-Year-Old Charged In Death Of Caylee Anthony

POSTED: Monday, September 7, 2009
UPDATED: 12:29 pm EDT September 8, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A Florida judge has postponed deciding whether to dismiss a defamation lawsuit filed by a Central Florida woman who claims Casey Anthony damaged her reputation.

The judge in Orlando also delayed deciding whether to postpone the defamation lawsuit until after Anthony's criminal trial on a first-degree murder charge.

Anthony, 23, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found in December. Anthony has pleaded not guilty to the charges, and she told investigators that she left Caylee with a baby sitter named Zenaida Gonzalez last summer and the two were gone when she returned to pick up her daughter.

Investigators believe Anthony made up the story about the nanny.

A woman by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez has filed a defamation lawsuit against Anthony, seeking $15,000 and claiming that she could not secure employment because of the link to the case.

If the judge allows the case to move forward, Anthony's attorneys will request that the civil case be postponed until after her murder trial, which is scheduled to begin next year.
Gonzalez's attorneys will return to court on Wednesday to ask a judge to force Anthony's parents, George and Cindy Anthony, to answer questions they refused to answer during depositions earlier this year.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 08, 2009, 12:34:14 PM
So if the judge has to take a month to decide, why would there be a hearing tomorrow? Or am I just confused?  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 12:38:38 PM
So if the judge has to take a month to decide, why would there be a hearing tomorrow? Or am I just confused?  ::MonkeyConfused::

The hearing today probably won't end up dismissing the whole suit, but postponing it. They will still eventually have to answer the questions anyhow. Or at least, that is what I think.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 08, 2009, 12:40:38 PM
So if the judge has to take a month to decide, why would there be a hearing tomorrow? Or am I just confused?  ::MonkeyConfused::

The hearing today probably won't end up dismissing the whole suit, but postponing it. They will still eventually have to answer the questions anyhow. Or at least, that is what I think.
Thanks, what a mess  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: leslee on September 08, 2009, 12:41:23 PM
So if the judge has to take a month to decide, why would there be a hearing tomorrow? Or am I just confused?  ::MonkeyConfused::

The hearing today probably won't end up dismissing the whole suit, but postponing it. They will still eventually have to answer the questions anyhow. Or at least, that is what I think.

I think they are on two different issues.... today was Amy and the checks
Tomorrow involves ZFGs lawsuit.


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Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 12:41:36 PM
So if the judge has to take a month to decide, why would there be a hearing tomorrow? Or am I just confused?  ::MonkeyConfused::

On Wednesday attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez will be back in court again. They want George and Cindy Anthony to answer more questions in their depositions. They also want to hold private investigator Dominic Casey in contempt of court for not appearing for his deposition.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/090809_Casey_Anthony_defamation_suit


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Post by: N2WISHN on September 08, 2009, 12:43:10 PM
So if the judge has to take a month to decide, why would there be a hearing tomorrow? Or am I just confused?  ::MonkeyConfused::


He hasn't dismissed the case but is delaying his decision on when the case will actually go to trial.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 12:44:44 PM
Here's the whole article from the above link:

Judge delays decision in
Anthony suit

Updated: Tuesday, 08 Sep 2009, 12:32 PM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 08 Sep 2009, 8:18 AM EDT

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) - A judge has postponed deciding whether to dismiss a defamation lawsuit filed by woman who claims Casey Anthony damaged her reputation.

The judge also delayed deciding whether to postpone the defamation lawsuit until after Anthony's criminal trial on a first-degree murder charge. Prosecutors allege that Anthony killed her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee. Anthony has pleaded not guilty and says a nanny named Zenaida Gonzalez kidnapped Caylee.

Investigators believe Anthony made up the story about the nanny. A woman named Zenaida Gonzalez claims in the defamation lawsuit that her reputation was damaged as a result of Anthony's story
about the nanny. Caylee was last seen in June of 2008, but she was not reported missing until a month later. Her remains were found in woods near the family's home in December.

On Wednesday attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez will be back in court again. They want George and Cindy Anthony to answer more questions in their depositions. They also want to hold private investigator Dominic Casey in contempt of court for not appearing for his deposition.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/090809_Casey_Anthony_defamation_suit




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 12:45:47 PM
So if the judge has to take a month to decide, why would there be a hearing tomorrow? Or am I just confused?  ::MonkeyConfused::
  JMO Judge R will probably make the same ruling tomorrow.....that he will wait until he rules on the motion to dismiss to rule on this one....



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 08, 2009, 12:48:49 PM
So if the judge has to take a month to decide, why would there be a hearing tomorrow? Or am I just confused?  ::MonkeyConfused::

On Wednesday attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez will be back in court again. They want George and Cindy Anthony to answer more questions in their depositions. They also want to hold private investigator Dominic Casey in contempt of court for not appearing for his deposition.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/090809_Casey_Anthony_defamation_suit
Thanks, good luck in getting George and Cin to answer more questions, they may if forced, but it will be all lies anyway  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 08, 2009, 12:49:50 PM
So if the judge has to take a month to decide, why would there be a hearing tomorrow? Or am I just confused?  ::MonkeyConfused::
  JMO Judge R will probably make the same ruling tomorrow.....that he will wait until he rules on the motion to dismiss to rule on this one....


Probably. I have no idea why he was criticizing anyone's speech, he sounds like a whining woman  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 12:53:12 PM
So if the judge has to take a month to decide, why would there be a hearing tomorrow? Or am I just confused?  ::MonkeyConfused::

On Wednesday attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez will be back in court again. They want George and Cindy Anthony to answer more questions in their depositions. They also want to hold private investigator Dominic Casey in contempt of court for not appearing for his deposition.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/090809_Casey_Anthony_defamation_suit
Thanks, good luck in getting George and Cin to answer more questions, they may if forced, but it will be all lies anyway  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I know! Wouldn't you think though, that Cindy and George would be just a little nervous lying in a legal matter with their daughter up against a death penalty? I'd be scared to death of crossing the judicial system at this point!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: TOY on September 08, 2009, 12:54:46 PM
So if the judge has to take a month to decide, why would there be a hearing tomorrow? Or am I just confused?  ::MonkeyConfused::

The hearing today probably won't end up dismissing the whole suit, but postponing it. They will still eventually have to answer the questions anyhow. Or at least, that is what I think.

I think they are on two different issues.... today was Amy and the checks
Tomorrow involves ZFGs lawsuit.


Actually today was about Z's lawsuit of defamation as to whether it should proceed before the criminal case.  It appears the judge is leaning toward delay but he has delayed his own ruling for a month or so.  I think it's because he wants to give his clerks adequate time for research.  (I get the impression that his clerks are the ones who wade through his tomes of books...)

Tomorrow's hearing is whether or not George and Cindy can be forced to answer questions posed to them.  Personally, I hope he rules on this tomorrow and mades them answer or be in contempt!

I can, however, see where letting the civil proceed the criminal could lead to years of appeals.  I'd rather (as someone earlier mentioned) delay gratification to see a solid "guilty" verdict for Casey with nothing to impede the verdict.  (I do realize there will certainly be appeals if she gets the DP but I'm personally hoping for life so she can spend many years regretting her action.  I think death would resolve this too quickly.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 08, 2009, 01:00:07 PM
So if the judge has to take a month to decide, why would there be a hearing tomorrow? Or am I just confused?  ::MonkeyConfused::

On Wednesday attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez will be back in court again. They want George and Cindy Anthony to answer more questions in their depositions. They also want to hold private investigator Dominic Casey in contempt of court for not appearing for his deposition.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/090809_Casey_Anthony_defamation_suit
Thanks, good luck in getting George and Cin to answer more questions, they may if forced, but it will be all lies anyway  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I know! Wouldn't you think though, that Cindy and George would be just a little nervous lying in a legal matter with their daughter up against a death penalty? I'd be scared to death of crossing the judicial system at this point!
I pray I never see people like this again, I would be in an institution from all this, not fighting and lying and thumbing my nose   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 01:08:47 PM
So if the judge has to take a month to decide, why would there be a hearing tomorrow? Or am I just confused?  ::MonkeyConfused::

On Wednesday attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez will be back in court again. They want George and Cindy Anthony to answer more questions in their depositions. They also want to hold private investigator Dominic Casey in contempt of court for not appearing for his deposition.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/090809_Casey_Anthony_defamation_suit
Thanks, good luck in getting George and Cin to answer more questions, they may if forced, but it will be all lies anyway  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I know! Wouldn't you think though, that Cindy and George would be just a little nervous lying in a legal matter with their daughter up against a death penalty? I'd be scared to death of crossing the judicial system at this point!
I pray I never see people like this again, I would be in an institution from all this, not fighting and lying and thumbing my nose   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I'm with you, NR! I must say, there would be a major part of me that would want to know who killed my granddaughter! They know in whose authority Caylee was when she died; Casey's.

I honesly believe tha Cindy cannot face up to the probable fact that she, herself, was probably the impetus for what happened. If Casey is found guilty, then her fears are true. They're just nuts.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 01:11:46 PM
So if the judge has to take a month to decide, why would there be a hearing tomorrow? Or am I just confused?  ::MonkeyConfused::
  JMO Judge R will probably make the same ruling tomorrow.....that he will wait until he rules on the motion to dismiss to rule on this one....



You are probably right.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 01:18:07 PM
So if the judge has to take a month to decide, why would there be a hearing tomorrow? Or am I just confused?  ::MonkeyConfused::
  JMO Judge R will probably make the same ruling tomorrow.....that he will wait until he rules on the motion to dismiss to rule on this one....



You are probably right.  ::MonkeyCool::

He probably will, but I really do think there's a better argument to make Cindy and George answer the questions. They aren't on the line with the death penalty! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: leslee on September 08, 2009, 01:21:16 PM
So if the judge has to take a month to decide, why would there be a hearing tomorrow? Or am I just confused?  ::MonkeyConfused::

The hearing today probably won't end up dismissing the whole suit, but postponing it. They will still eventually have to answer the questions anyhow. Or at least, that is what I think.

I think they are on two different issues.... today was Amy and the checks
Tomorrow involves ZFGs lawsuit.


Actually today was about Z's lawsuit of defamation as to whether it should proceed before the criminal case.  It appears the judge is leaning toward delay but he has delayed his own ruling for a month or so.  I think it's because he wants to give his clerks adequate time for research.  (I get the impression that his clerks are the ones who wade through his tomes of books...)

Tomorrow's hearing is whether or not George and Cindy can be forced to answer questions posed to them.  Personally, I hope he rules on this tomorrow and mades them answer or be in contempt!

I can, however, see where letting the civil proceed the criminal could lead to years of appeals.  I'd rather (as someone earlier mentioned) delay gratification to see a solid "guilty" verdict for Casey with nothing to impede the verdict.  (I do realize there will certainly be appeals if she gets the DP but I'm personally hoping for life so she can spend many years regretting her action.  I think death would resolve this too quickly.)

Thanks Toy for clarifying that. I couldn't get the video up. Well from what everyone is saying it looks like this judge is grandstanding for the audience, have we researched him to see if he's sleeping with Spindy or George ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 01:34:03 PM
So if the judge has to take a month to decide, why would there be a hearing tomorrow? Or am I just confused?  ::MonkeyConfused::

On Wednesday attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez will be back in court again. They want George and Cindy Anthony to answer more questions in their depositions. They also want to hold private investigator Dominic Casey in contempt of court for not appearing for his deposition.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/090809_Casey_Anthony_defamation_suit
Thanks, good luck in getting George and Cin to answer more questions, they may if forced, but it will be all lies anyway  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I know! Wouldn't you think though, that Cindy and George would be just a little nervous lying in a legal matter with their daughter up against a death penalty? I'd be scared to death of crossing the judicial system at this point!

Why should they be nervous? They have lied since day 1 and nothing has been done. Each lies that goes by without so much a slap on the wrist gives them more reason to LIE more.  Why have they been given such a free rein?  Morgan and company seems to be the ONLY people who have to guts to call them out!!   I am really tired of their free pass rides. It needs to stop....in the name of JUSTICE...it needs to be stopped.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 01:46:52 PM
When did the 'rights' of the criminal become more important than the right of the victim??

A friend said perhaps...just perhaps....Judge R is doing this because it doesn't want it to look as though he was partial to ZFG since both are of Hispanic decent..he wants it to appear that he looked at all the legal data and his decision will be based on that and not on a nationality factor coming into play.....personally I don't see it that way...but I suppose anything is possible n the crazy mess.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 01:48:15 PM
I have no idea how that posted 3 times...I kept getting timed out....Hopefully a mod will fix it for me!! ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 01:49:57 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20779118/detail.html
Decision Delayed In Anthony Civil Case
23-Year-Old Charged In Death Of Caylee Anthony

POSTED: Monday, September 7, 2009
UPDATED: 1:14 pm EDT September 8, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A Florida judge has postponed deciding whether to dismiss a defamation lawsuit filed by a Central Florida woman who claims Casey Anthony damaged her reputation.
The judge in Orlando also delayed deciding whether to postpone the defamation lawsuit until after Anthony's criminal trial on a first-degree murder charge.

Anthony, 23, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found in December. Anthony has pleaded not guilty to the charges, and she told investigators that she left Caylee with a baby sitter named Zenaida Gonzalez last summer and that the two were gone when she returned to pick up her daughter.

Investigators believe Anthony made up the story about the nanny.

A woman by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez has filed a defamation lawsuit against Anthony, seeking $15,000 and claiming that she could not secure employment because of the link to the case.

If the judge allows the case to move forward, Anthony's attorneys will request that the civil case be postponed until after her murder trial, which is scheduled to begin next year.

Gonzalez's attorneys will return to court on Wednesday to ask a judge to force Anthony's parents, George and Cindy Anthony, to answer questions they refused to answer during depositions earlier this year.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 01:52:22 PM
I have no idea how that posted 3 times...I kept getting timed out....Hopefully a mod will fix it for me!! ::MonkeyConfused::

Yes, done!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: klaasend on September 08, 2009, 01:53:50 PM
I have no idea how that posted 3 times...I kept getting timed out....Hopefully a mod will fix it for me!! ::MonkeyConfused::

Yes, done!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Thanks CBB  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 01:54:40 PM
I have no idea how that posted 3 times...I kept getting timed out....Hopefully a mod will fix it for me!! ::MonkeyConfused::

Yes, done!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

thanks you CBB...perhaps I will quit messing with the voodoo doll for a while ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 08, 2009, 01:56:41 PM
I have no idea how that posted 3 times...I kept getting timed out....Hopefully a mod will fix it for me!! ::MonkeyConfused::

Yes, done!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Thanks CBB  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Her "Big Girl Panties" may need to be let out Klaas!  And I didn't put her in "Time Out" no matter what she says!  ::MonkeyDevil2::   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 02:09:44 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20773704/detail.html
Judge Delays Decision On Anthony Case Dismissal
Zenaida Gonzalez Says Anthony Ruined Her Reputation

POSTED: 10:16 am EDT September 7, 2009
UPDATED: 1:51 pm EDT September 8, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Attorneys for Casey Anthony are in court Tuesday morning seeking to get a civil lawsuit dismissed or at least delayed.

The hearing lasted two hours, and the judge has not issued his ruling yet.
Zenaida Gonzalez -- the woman who claims Casey ruined her reputation by saying someone with her name abducted Caylee Anthony -- is pursuing a civil defamation case. Anthony's attorneys want it dismissed, saying her attorneys can not show the alleged defamatory statement was directed at the Zenaida Gonzalez who has filed the lawsuit.

if they can't get it delayed, they want to have the judge delay it until after Anthony's criminal trial next year.

Casey Anthony is in the Orange County jail charged with murder in the death of her daughter Caylee, who was 2 when she was reported missing in 2008.
Anthony's attorney Jonathan Kasen said the lawsuit is "frivolous" in his quest to have it dismissed. Als he said firm that filed the suit, Morgan and Morgan, "works off of publicity."

Keith Mitnik, an attorney for Gonzalez, said his client is only Zenaida Gonzalez that police interviewed. He also objects to delaying the case, because he said the criminal case could take years.
<snipped>


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 08, 2009, 02:11:11 PM
So if the judge has to take a month to decide, why would there be a hearing tomorrow? Or am I just confused?  ::MonkeyConfused::
  JMO Judge R will probably make the same ruling tomorrow.....that he will wait until he rules on the motion to dismiss to rule on this one....



You are probably right.  ::MonkeyCool::

He probably will, but I really do think there's a better argument to make Cindy and George answer the questions. They aren't on the line with the death penalty! 

He can also rule DC in contempt and slap him around a bit. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 02:18:18 PM
Casey Anthony: Civil-suit judge hints at delay, WESH says
posted by halboedeker on Sep 8, 2009 12:32:17 PM
<snipped>
"The judge is not going for that motion to dismiss this particular suit but he did send a very strong signal that he is considering permanently putting it on the back burner until after the criminal case against Casey is over," WESH-Channel 2's Bob Kealing said on the noon news.

Kealing quickly laid out the court battle: Anthony's defense calls it a frivolous lawsuit that she shouldn't have to fight while she's fighting for her life in the murder trial. Gonzalez's lawyers say their client shouldn't have to wait years for justice.

"Judge Jose Rodriguez says this a very difficult balancing act," Kealing said. Although Rodriguez hadn't ruled and said he would need to study the matter further, Kealing said the judge was sending a strong message that he would put off the civil matter.

WFTV-Channel 9's Mary Nguyen also reported that Rodriguez hadn't ruled in the matter and highlighted that Gonzalez's lawyers were asking that Casey Anthony be ordered to answer questions she had refused to answer

"The judge didn't rule on any of the motions he heard today, because he said he wanted to think about it," Nguyen said.

The defense asked the judge to move the defamation trial after the criminal case, and Rodriguez said he would make a ruling in two to four weeks, Nguyen said.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-civilsuit-judge-hints-at-delay-wesh-says.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 02:28:37 PM
Casey Anthony: Civil-suit judge hints at delay, WESH says
posted by halboedeker on Sep 8, 2009 12:32:17 PM
<snipped>
"The judge is not going for that motion to dismiss this particular suit but he did send a very strong signal that he is considering permanently putting it on the back burner until after the criminal case against Casey is over," WESH-Channel 2's Bob Kealing said on the noon news.

Kealing quickly laid out the court battle: Anthony's defense calls it a frivolous lawsuit that she shouldn't have to fight while she's fighting for her life in the murder trial. Gonzalez's lawyers say their client shouldn't have to wait years for justice.

"Judge Jose Rodriguez says this a very difficult balancing act," Kealing said. Although Rodriguez hadn't ruled and said he would need to study the matter further, Kealing said the judge was sending a strong message that he would put off the civil matter.

WFTV-Channel 9's Mary Nguyen also reported that Rodriguez hadn't ruled in the matter and highlighted that Gonzalez's lawyers were asking that Casey Anthony be ordered to answer questions she had refused to answer

"The judge didn't rule on any of the motions he heard today, because he said he wanted to think about it," Nguyen said.

The defense asked the judge to move the defamation trial after the criminal case, and Rodriguez said he would make a ruling in two to four weeks, Nguyen said.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-civilsuit-judge-hints-at-delay-wesh-says.html

thanks trim...I decided instead of just coffee tomorrow morning, I will add some coconut rum to the coffee and perhaps I will be able to stomach another morning of not only Judge R but the A's and conman as well!!  UUGGHHHHHH


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on September 08, 2009, 02:41:42 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20773704/detail.html
Judge Delays Decision On Anthony Case Dismissal
Zenaida Gonzalez Says Anthony Ruined Her Reputation

POSTED: 10:16 am EDT September 7, 2009
UPDATED: 1:51 pm EDT September 8, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Attorneys for Casey Anthony are in court Tuesday morning seeking to get a civil lawsuit dismissed or at least delayed.

The hearing lasted two hours, and the judge has not issued his ruling yet.
Zenaida Gonzalez -- the woman who claims Casey ruined her reputation by saying someone with her name abducted Caylee Anthony -- is pursuing a civil defamation case. Anthony's attorneys want it dismissed, saying her attorneys can not show the alleged defamatory statement was directed at the Zenaida Gonzalez who has filed the lawsuit.

if they can't get it delayed, they want to have the judge delay it until after Anthony's criminal trial next year.

Casey Anthony is in the Orange County jail charged with murder in the death of her daughter Caylee, who was 2 when she was reported missing in 2008.
Anthony's attorney Jonathan Kasen said the lawsuit is "frivolous" in his quest to have it dismissed. Als he said firm that filed the suit, Morgan and Morgan, "works off of publicity."

Keith Mitnik, an attorney for Gonzalez, said his client is only Zenaida Gonzalez that police interviewed. He also objects to delaying the case, because he said the criminal case could take years.
<snipped>



Might not want to start drinking until noon according to news13.........


snipped

At the second hearing, scheduled for 3:15 p.m. Wednesday, Gonzalez’s attorneys will ask the judge to force Casey’s parents, George and Cindy Anthony, to answer more questions.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/9/8/caseys_lawyers_try_to_delay_zenaidas_lawsuit.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Jesse on September 08, 2009, 02:45:43 PM
thanks trim...I decided instead of just coffee tomorrow morning, I will add some coconut rum to the coffee and perhaps I will be able to stomach another morning of not only Judge R but the A's and conman as well!!  UUGGHHHHHH

*****************************
meeee toooo....ugggg this judge is not very good


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 02:46:23 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20773704/detail.html
Judge Delays Decision On Anthony Case Dismissal
Zenaida Gonzalez Says Anthony Ruined Her Reputation

POSTED: 10:16 am EDT September 7, 2009
UPDATED: 1:51 pm EDT September 8, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Attorneys for Casey Anthony are in court Tuesday morning seeking to get a civil lawsuit dismissed or at least delayed.

The hearing lasted two hours, and the judge has not issued his ruling yet.
Zenaida Gonzalez -- the woman who claims Casey ruined her reputation by saying someone with her name abducted Caylee Anthony -- is pursuing a civil defamation case. Anthony's attorneys want it dismissed, saying her attorneys can not show the alleged defamatory statement was directed at the Zenaida Gonzalez who has filed the lawsuit.

if they can't get it delayed, they want to have the judge delay it until after Anthony's criminal trial next year.

Casey Anthony is in the Orange County jail charged with murder in the death of her daughter Caylee, who was 2 when she was reported missing in 2008.
Anthony's attorney Jonathan Kasen said the lawsuit is "frivolous" in his quest to have it dismissed. Als he said firm that filed the suit, Morgan and Morgan, "works off of publicity."

Keith Mitnik, an attorney for Gonzalez, said his client is only Zenaida Gonzalez that police interviewed. He also objects to delaying the case, because he said the criminal case could take years.
<snipped>



Might not want to start drinking until noon according to news13.........


snipped

At the second hearing, scheduled for 3:15 p.m. Wednesday, Gonzalez’s attorneys will ask the judge to force Casey’s parents, George and Cindy Anthony, to answer more questions.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/9/8/caseys_lawyers_try_to_delay_zenaidas_lawsuit.html

ahhhhhh thanks...it will be 4:15 my time....almost margarita time!!

Has anyone seen any of the documents that were supposed to be released last Friday?  We got the interviews but so far I have seen no documents?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on September 08, 2009, 02:52:09 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20773704/detail.html
Judge Delays Decision On Anthony Case Dismissal
Zenaida Gonzalez Says Anthony Ruined Her Reputation

POSTED: 10:16 am EDT September 7, 2009
UPDATED: 1:51 pm EDT September 8, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Attorneys for Casey Anthony are in court Tuesday morning seeking to get a civil lawsuit dismissed or at least delayed.

The hearing lasted two hours, and the judge has not issued his ruling yet.
Zenaida Gonzalez -- the woman who claims Casey ruined her reputation by saying someone with her name abducted Caylee Anthony -- is pursuing a civil defamation case. Anthony's attorneys want it dismissed, saying her attorneys can not show the alleged defamatory statement was directed at the Zenaida Gonzalez who has filed the lawsuit.

if they can't get it delayed, they want to have the judge delay it until after Anthony's criminal trial next year.

Casey Anthony is in the Orange County jail charged with murder in the death of her daughter Caylee, who was 2 when she was reported missing in 2008.
Anthony's attorney Jonathan Kasen said the lawsuit is "frivolous" in his quest to have it dismissed. Als he said firm that filed the suit, Morgan and Morgan, "works off of publicity."

Keith Mitnik, an attorney for Gonzalez, said his client is only Zenaida Gonzalez that police interviewed. He also objects to delaying the case, because he said the criminal case could take years.
<snipped>



Might not want to start drinking until noon according to news13.........


snipped

At the second hearing, scheduled for 3:15 p.m. Wednesday, Gonzalez’s attorneys will ask the judge to force Casey’s parents, George and Cindy Anthony, to answer more questions.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/9/8/caseys_lawyers_try_to_delay_zenaidas_lawsuit.html

ahhhhhh thanks...it will be 4:15 my time....almost margarita time!!

Has anyone seen any of the documents that were supposed to be released last Friday?  We got the interviews but so far I have seen no documents?



I've seen nary a document....margaritas sound perfect


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 03:15:12 PM




Might not want to start drinking until noon according to news13.........


snipped

At the second hearing, scheduled for 3:15 p.m. Wednesday, Gonzalez’s attorneys will ask the judge to force Casey’s parents, George and Cindy Anthony, to answer more questions.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/9/8/caseys_lawyers_try_to_delay_zenaidas_lawsuit.html

ahhhhhh thanks...it will be 4:15 my time....almost margarita time!!

Has anyone seen any of the documents that were supposed to be released last Friday?  We got the interviews but so far I have seen no documents?



I've seen nary a document....margaritas sound perfect

thanks N2.....

I keep going through notes I took during the interviews and I know I missed a lot...so I am going to go over them again...one thing, among the many, that jumped out at me was when Rob mentioned that Casey said: "they haven't even found the clothes she was wearing" 

That's so bizarre....as if she expected Caylee's clothes to be found...but not Caylee. It shows me that she knew that Caylee would decompose quickly in the environment and never expected her to be found. I keep in mind that she was a CSI nut!!

Also, does anyone remember Kronk saying he found a skull with duct tape on it? And reported it that way? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 03:24:19 PM




Might not want to start drinking until noon according to news13.........


snipped

At the second hearing, scheduled for 3:15 p.m. Wednesday, Gonzalez’s attorneys will ask the judge to force Casey’s parents, George and Cindy Anthony, to answer more questions.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/9/8/caseys_lawyers_try_to_delay_zenaidas_lawsuit.html

ahhhhhh thanks...it will be 4:15 my time....almost margarita time!!

Has anyone seen any of the documents that were supposed to be released last Friday?  We got the interviews but so far I have seen no documents?



I've seen nary a document....margaritas sound perfect

thanks N2.....

I keep going through notes I took during the interviews and I know I missed a lot...so I am going to go over them again...one thing, among the many, that jumped out at me was when Rob mentioned that Casey said: "they haven't even found the clothes she was wearing" 

That's so bizarre....as if she expected Caylee's clothes to be found...but not Caylee. It shows me that she knew that Caylee would decompose quickly in the environment and never expected her to be found. I keep in mind that she was a CSI nut!!

Also, does anyone remember Kronk saying he found a skull with duct tape on it? And reported it that way? 

No, I don't think we knew anything about the duct tape until the remains were being recovered. I don't remember the 911 calls from him saying anything about duct tape. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 03:27:41 PM


No, I don't think we knew anything about the duct tape until the remains were being recovered. I don't remember the 911 calls from him saying anything about duct tape. JMO

Adding to my own post, I think we saw a hand written narritive that was written that day in a previous doc dump, and I don't think duct tape was mentioned there. It wasn't very long. Just what I can recollect.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 03:34:30 PM


thanks N2.....

I keep going through notes I took during the interviews and I know I missed a lot...so I am going to go over them again...one thing, among the many, that jumped out at me was when Rob mentioned that Casey said: "they haven't even found the clothes she was wearing" 

That's so bizarre....as if she expected Caylee's clothes to be found...but not Caylee. It shows me that she knew that Caylee would decompose quickly in the environment and never expected her to be found. I keep in mind that she was a CSI nut!!

Also, does anyone remember Kronk saying he found a skull with duct tape on it? And reported it that way? 

No, I don't think we knew anything about the duct tape until the remains were being recovered. I don't remember the 911 calls from him saying anything about duct tape. JMO

neither do I...I have this written in my notebook with a big questions mark ...now I gotta figure out what it was about!!   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on September 08, 2009, 03:45:20 PM


No, I don't think we knew anything about the duct tape until the remains were being recovered. I don't remember the 911 calls from him saying anything about duct tape. JMO

Adding to my own post, I think we saw a hand written narritive that was written that day in a previous doc dump, and I don't think duct tape was mentioned there. It wasn't very long. Just what I can recollect.



It's on the audio of the Roy Kronk dispatch call released on 9-4 and he does mention the duct tape at the end. Very short audio......

http://www.wesh.com/video/20727260/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 03:47:28 PM


No, I don't think we knew anything about the duct tape until the remains were being recovered. I don't remember the 911 calls from him saying anything about duct tape. JMO

Adding to my own post, I think we saw a hand written narritive that was written that day in a previous doc dump, and I don't think duct tape was mentioned there. It wasn't very long. Just what I can recollect.



It's on the audio of the Roy Kronk dispatch call released on 9-4 and he does mention the duct tape at the end. Very short audio......

http://www.wesh.com/video/20727260/index.html

Yes, that's the one Sunny's talking about. Everything else we heard before from him didn't mention duct tape, IIRC.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on September 08, 2009, 03:55:22 PM


No, I don't think we knew anything about the duct tape until the remains were being recovered. I don't remember the 911 calls from him saying anything about duct tape. JMO

Adding to my own post, I think we saw a hand written narritive that was written that day in a previous doc dump, and I don't think duct tape was mentioned there. It wasn't very long. Just what I can recollect.



It's on the audio of the Roy Kronk dispatch call released on 9-4 and he does mention the duct tape at the end. Very short audio......

http://www.wesh.com/video/20727260/index.html

Yes, that's the one Sunny's talking about. Everything else we heard before from him didn't mention duct tape, IIRC.



"A child's skull with duct tape across the mouth". I can't believe how calmly he said that!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Scatty on September 08, 2009, 04:33:56 PM


No, I don't think we knew anything about the duct tape until the remains were being recovered. I don't remember the 911 calls from him saying anything about duct tape. JMO

Adding to my own post, I think we saw a hand written narritive that was written that day in a previous doc dump, and I don't think duct tape was mentioned there. It wasn't very long. Just what I can recollect.



It's on the audio of the Roy Kronk dispatch call released on 9-4 and he does mention the duct tape at the end. Very short audio......

http://www.wesh.com/video/20727260/index.html

Yes, that's the one Sunny's talking about. Everything else we heard before from him didn't mention duct tape, IIRC.



"A child's skull with duct tape across the mouth". I can't believe how calmly he said that!!

Who's the guy who says "I told you! I told you!" just before Roy says "No, I told you she was there" ? I thought that was a bit odd.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 08, 2009, 04:35:37 PM
Casey Anthony lawyer takes on another high-profile case
By Drew Petrimoulx @ September 7, 2009 4:37 PM

Todd Macaluso, a California lawyer who was brought onto Casey Anthony's defense team because of his expertise in cross examination, has taken on another high-profile case.

Macaluso is representing NFL star Shawne Merriman who's accused of two felonies in an altercation with reality TV celebrity Tila Tequila.

Tequila made a name for herself as the star of the reality show "A Shot at Love with Tila Tequila."

Macaluso says Merriman was trying to keep her from driving intoxicated, but the San Diego sheriff's office arrested him for battery and false imprisonment.

Macaluso, a late addition to Casey Anthony's defense, has been adamant about her innocence.

He recently made headlines after saying the defense had substantial evidence that " the body or the remains of Caylee Anthony were placed [where they were found] after Casey Anthony was locked up in the Orange County correctional facility."

He argued successfully for the defense's right question to Tim Miller of Texas Equusearch and have access to the records of volunteers who searched for Caylee Anthony.

http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/09/casey-anthony-lawyer-takes-on.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 04:39:15 PM


No, I don't think we knew anything about the duct tape until the remains were being recovered. I don't remember the 911 calls from him saying anything about duct tape. JMO

Adding to my own post, I think we saw a hand written narritive that was written that day in a previous doc dump, and I don't think duct tape was mentioned there. It wasn't very long. Just what I can recollect.



It's on the audio of the Roy Kronk dispatch call released on 9-4 and he does mention the duct tape at the end. Very short audio......

http://www.wesh.com/video/20727260/index.html

N2 that's it!  I knew I hadn't dreamed that up!  And it explains my next note with a question mark.

 I TOLD YOU SHE WAS THERE...who said that to who? my question.....


 on the tape...I told you, , I told you, Ray
RK says, NO, I told YOU she was here.

my question: HOW DID YOU KNOW RAY??????


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 04:40:47 PM


No, I don't think we knew anything about the duct tape until the remains were being recovered. I don't remember the 911 calls from him saying anything about duct tape. JMO

Adding to my own post, I think we saw a hand written narritive that was written that day in a previous doc dump, and I don't think duct tape was mentioned there. It wasn't very long. Just what I can recollect.



It's on the audio of the Roy Kronk dispatch call released on 9-4 and he does mention the duct tape at the end. Very short audio......

http://www.wesh.com/video/20727260/index.html

Yes, that's the one Sunny's talking about. Everything else we heard before from him didn't mention duct tape, IIRC.



"A child's skull with duct tape across the mouth". I can't believe how calmly he said that!!

me neither....when he calls in he say I just found a human skull on Suburban Drive, in the woods behind the school.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 04:44:18 PM


No, I don't think we knew anything about the duct tape until the remains were being recovered. I don't remember the 911 calls from him saying anything about duct tape. JMO

Adding to my own post, I think we saw a hand written narritive that was written that day in a previous doc dump, and I don't think duct tape was mentioned there. It wasn't very long. Just what I can recollect.



It's on the audio of the Roy Kronk dispatch call released on 9-4 and he does mention the duct tape at the end. Very short audio......

http://www.wesh.com/video/20727260/index.html

Yes, that's the one Sunny's talking about. Everything else we heard before from him didn't mention duct tape, IIRC.



"A child's skull with duct tape across the mouth". I can't believe how calmly he said that!!

Who's the guy who says "I told you! I told you!" just before Roy says "No, I told you she was there" ? I thought that was a bit odd.

Good Question...the video says Kronk calls dispatch and it's the dispatcher for the city utilities....so these 2 had been discusiing Caylee's remain being here......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 04:46:08 PM
N2 I don't know how you found that...but girl....YOU ROCK!!!! ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 04:51:52 PM
Casey Anthony lawyer takes on another high-profile case
By Drew Petrimoulx @ September 7, 2009 4:37 PM

Todd Macaluso, a California lawyer who was brought onto Casey Anthony's defense team because of his expertise in cross examination, has taken on another high-profile case.

Macaluso is representing NFL star Shawne Merriman who's accused of two felonies in an altercation with reality TV celebrity Tila Tequila.

Tequila made a name for herself as the star of the reality show "A Shot at Love with Tila Tequila."

Macaluso says Merriman was trying to keep her from driving intoxicated, but the San Diego sheriff's office arrested him for battery and false imprisonment.

Macaluso, a late addition to Casey Anthony's defense, has been adamant about her innocence.

He recently made headlines after saying the defense had substantial evidence that " the body or the remains of Caylee Anthony were placed [where they were found] after Casey Anthony was locked up in the Orange County correctional facility."

He argued successfully for the defense's right question to Tim Miller of Texas Equusearch and have access to the records of volunteers who searched for Caylee Anthony.

http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/09/casey-anthony-lawyer-takes-on.html

thanks NR......'He argued successfully for the defense's right question to Tim Miller of Texas Equusearch and have access to the records of volunteers who searched for Caylee Anthony. '

this couldwill turn around and bite him right in the ass.......Tim and the volunteers will all tell the truth...they were NOT at the place where Caylee's remain were found......so he can't say the remains weren't there then.  oopssss there goes your new evidence right down the toilet!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 05:19:30 PM




Might not want to start drinking until noon according to news13.........


snipped

At the second hearing, scheduled for 3:15 p.m. Wednesday, Gonzalez’s attorneys will ask the judge to force Casey’s parents, George and Cindy Anthony, to answer more questions.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/9/8/caseys_lawyers_try_to_delay_zenaidas_lawsuit.html

ahhhhhh thanks...it will be 4:15 my time....almost margarita time!!

Has anyone seen any of the documents that were supposed to be released last Friday?  We got the interviews but so far I have seen no documents?



I've seen nary a document....margaritas sound perfect

thanks N2.....

I keep going through notes I took during the interviews and I know I missed a lot...so I am going to go over them again...one thing, among the many, that jumped out at me was when Rob mentioned that Casey said: "they haven't even found the clothes she was wearing" 

That's so bizarre....as if she expected Caylee's clothes to be found...but not Caylee. It shows me that she knew that Caylee would decompose quickly in the environment and never expected her to be found. I keep in mind that she was a CSI nut!!

Also, does anyone remember Kronk saying he found a skull with duct tape on it? And reported it that way? 

No, I don't think we knew anything about the duct tape until the remains were being recovered. I don't remember the 911 calls from him saying anything about duct tape. JMO

Fanny,
Sorry, you are wrong on this.  The 911 call was in last dump. 
http://www.wesh.com/video/20727260/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 05:27:09 PM


No, I don't think we knew anything about the duct tape until the remains were being recovered. I don't remember the 911 calls from him saying anything about duct tape. JMO

Adding to my own post, I think we saw a hand written narritive that was written that day in a previous doc dump, and I don't think duct tape was mentioned there. It wasn't very long. Just what I can recollect.



It's on the audio of the Roy Kronk dispatch call released on 9-4 and he does mention the duct tape at the end. Very short audio......

http://www.wesh.com/video/20727260/index.html

N2 that's it!  I knew I hadn't dreamed that up!  And it explains my next note with a question mark.

 I TOLD YOU SHE WAS THERE...who said that to who? my question.....


 on the tape...I told you, , I told you, Ray
RK says, NO, I told YOU she was here.

my question: HOW DID YOU KNOW RAY??????


Good question as the only employee's I have heard mentioned are these:
Roy Kronk – Meter Reader, Orange County Public Works who found Caylee’s remains in a wooded area in the 8900 block of Suburban Drive on 12/11/08.

David E. Dean – Meter Reader, Orange County Public Works.  Roy Kronk’s co-worker who was with him on Suburban Dr. on 8/11/08. Stumbled upon a snake – picked it up with a shovel and put into the back of his truck.

Christopher Gibson – Meter Reader, Orange County Public Works. Roy Kronk’s co-worker who was with him on Suburban Dr. on 8/11/08.

Tim Armstrong – Meter Reader, Orange County Public Works. Roy Kronk’s co-worker.

Alex Roberts – Roy Kronk’s Supervisor, Orange County Public Works

Carl Spare – Utilities Account Supv. for Field Services, Orange County Public Works recorded what Kronk reported over the radio about his find at Suburban Dr. on 12/11/08.
From: http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/casey-anthony-whos-who-list-revised-8-20-2009/casey-anthony-all-others-directly-or-indirectly-linked/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 05:32:56 PM




Might not want to start drinking until noon according to news13.........


snipped

At the second hearing, scheduled for 3:15 p.m. Wednesday, Gonzalez’s attorneys will ask the judge to force Casey’s parents, George and Cindy Anthony, to answer more questions.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/9/8/caseys_lawyers_try_to_delay_zenaidas_lawsuit.html

ahhhhhh thanks...it will be 4:15 my time....almost margarita time!!

Has anyone seen any of the documents that were supposed to be released last Friday?  We got the interviews but so far I have seen no documents?



I've seen nary a document....margaritas sound perfect

thanks N2.....

I keep going through notes I took during the interviews and I know I missed a lot...so I am going to go over them again...one thing, among the many, that jumped out at me was when Rob mentioned that Casey said: "they haven't even found the clothes she was wearing" 

That's so bizarre....as if she expected Caylee's clothes to be found...but not Caylee. It shows me that she knew that Caylee would decompose quickly in the environment and never expected her to be found. I keep in mind that she was a CSI nut!!

Also, does anyone remember Kronk saying he found a skull with duct tape on it? And reported it that way? 

No, I don't think we knew anything about the duct tape until the remains were being recovered. I don't remember the 911 calls from him saying anything about duct tape. JMO

Fanny,
Sorry, you are wrong on this.  The 911 call was in last dump. 
http://www.wesh.com/video/20727260/index.html

Thanks ANJ.....I didn't remember it either...but wrote it down in my notebook with a question make next to it...So I knew I had to have read something about it.....but for the life of me I do not remember seeing that video until today.....so I must have read something about it and questioned it. 

t remember it but had written it down....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 05:37:20 PM
Sunny,
The full 911 call was released the same day as LP, Tracy, Rob, etc.  It is first time we got to hear Kronk say it, himself.   So, you are not to far behind - Tracy and Rob and LP were more interesting !!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 05:38:30 PM


No, I don't think we knew anything about the duct tape until the remains were being recovered. I don't remember the 911 calls from him saying anything about duct tape. JMO

Adding to my own post, I think we saw a hand written narritive that was written that day in a previous doc dump, and I don't think duct tape was mentioned there. It wasn't very long. Just what I can recollect.



It's on the audio of the Roy Kronk dispatch call released on 9-4 and he does mention the duct tape at the end. Very short audio......

http://www.wesh.com/video/20727260/index.html

N2 that's it!  I knew I hadn't dreamed that up!  And it explains my next note with a question mark.

 I TOLD YOU SHE WAS THERE...who said that to who? my question.....


 on the tape...I told you, , I told you, Ray
RK says, NO, I told YOU she was here.

my question: HOW DID YOU KNOW RAY??????


Good question as the only employee's I have heard mentioned are these:
Roy Kronk – Meter Reader, Orange County Public Works who found Caylee’s remains in a wooded area in the 8900 block of Suburban Drive on 12/11/08.

David E. Dean – Meter Reader, Orange County Public Works.  Roy Kronk’s co-worker who was with him on Suburban Dr. on 8/11/08. Stumbled upon a snake – picked it up with a shovel and put into the back of his truck.

Christopher Gibson – Meter Reader, Orange County Public Works. Roy Kronk’s co-worker who was with him on Suburban Dr. on 8/11/08.

Tim Armstrong – Meter Reader, Orange County Public Works. Roy Kronk’s co-worker.

Alex Roberts – Roy Kronk’s Supervisor, Orange County Public Works

Carl Spare – Utilities Account Supv. for Field Services, Orange County Public Works recorded what Kronk reported over the radio about his find at Suburban Dr. on 12/11/08.
From: http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/casey-anthony-whos-who-list-revised-8-20-2009/casey-anthony-all-others-directly-or-indirectly-linked/

Thanks again ANJ.....so whoever Kronk was talking to that day???  He and Kronk had been talking about Caylee being there.  I know I sound like a broken record....but Kronk ha been on the top of my hinky meter from the first time we heard about him.....I can't shake that he knew all that time that Caylee's little body was out in that snakey marsh and he didn't FORCE the issue...he could have called any of the detectives, Yuri, Allen or even Sheriff Beary when the police didn't respond as they should have.  But he waited til it was dry......and we really don't know how many times he had gone back out there.....he was after the reward I KNOW IT....and I also FEEL he got inside info......JMO of course


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 05:39:15 PM
Tidbit:  If you want to hear the hearing from today:
Part 1:   
http://www.wesh.com/video/20793771/index.html
Part 2:
http://www.wesh.com/video/20794973/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 05:42:30 PM
Sunny,
The full 911 call was released the same day as LP, Tracy, Rob, etc.  It is first time we got to hear Kronk say it, himself.   So, you are not to far behind - Tracy and Rob and LP were more interesting !!!!!!

ANJ...thank you...at least I know I am not losing my mind!!

OHMYGAWD!  I just saw this money violin....I am near hysteria in a fit of laughter.....Klaas is obviously bored (cause we are such good little monkeys..hee hee hee) and when she is bored she ROCKS MY MONKEY GIF WORLD!    ::MonkeyViolin::::MonkeyViolin::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 05:42:53 PM


No, I don't think we knew anything about the duct tape until the remains were being recovered. I don't remember the 911 calls from him saying anything about duct tape. JMO

Adding to my own post, I think we saw a hand written narritive that was written that day in a previous doc dump, and I don't think duct tape was mentioned there. It wasn't very long. Just what I can recollect.



It's on the audio of the Roy Kronk dispatch call released on 9-4 and he does mention the duct tape at the end. Very short audio......

http://www.wesh.com/video/20727260/index.html

N2 that's it!  I knew I hadn't dreamed that up!  And it explains my next note with a question mark.

 I TOLD YOU SHE WAS THERE...who said that to who? my question.....


 on the tape...I told you, , I told you, Ray
RK says, NO, I told YOU she was here.

my question: HOW DID YOU KNOW RAY??????


Good question as the only employee's I have heard mentioned are these:
Roy Kronk – Meter Reader, Orange County Public Works who found Caylee’s remains in a wooded area in the 8900 block of Suburban Drive on 12/11/08.

David E. Dean – Meter Reader, Orange County Public Works.  Roy Kronk’s co-worker who was with him on Suburban Dr. on 8/11/08. Stumbled upon a snake – picked it up with a shovel and put into the back of his truck.

Christopher Gibson – Meter Reader, Orange County Public Works. Roy Kronk’s co-worker who was with him on Suburban Dr. on 8/11/08.

Tim Armstrong – Meter Reader, Orange County Public Works. Roy Kronk’s co-worker.

Alex Roberts – Roy Kronk’s Supervisor, Orange County Public Works

Carl Spare – Utilities Account Supv. for Field Services, Orange County Public Works recorded what Kronk reported over the radio about his find at Suburban Dr. on 12/11/08.
From: http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/casey-anthony-whos-who-list-revised-8-20-2009/casey-anthony-all-others-directly-or-indirectly-linked/

Thanks again ANJ.....so whoever Kronk was talking to that day???  He and Kronk had been talking about Caylee being there.  I know I sound like a broken record....but Kronk ha been on the top of my hinky meter from the first time we heard about him.....I can't shake that he knew all that time that Caylee's little body was out in that snakey marsh and he didn't FORCE the issue...he could have called any of the detectives, Yuri, Allen or even Sheriff Beary when the police didn't respond as they should have.  But he waited til it was dry......and we really don't know how many times he had gone back out there.....he was after the reward I KNOW IT....and I also FEEL he got inside info......JMO of course

Yes - he has been on my hinky meter for awhile! LOL  But, we knew he had talked to others about his speculation -- remember the testimony about the day they found the snake.  He told the co-workers he felt she was there.  Just not sure who he is calling Ray, I am going to go listen again - cause maybe there is yet another player! 
Remember my Daisy chain doc -  let's just say, RK was one of the reason's I made that.
Here is a link if anyone has not seen it and wants to:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5460472/Daisychainfinal


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 05:45:43 PM
Sunny,
The full 911 call was released the same day as LP, Tracy, Rob, etc.  It is first time we got to hear Kronk say it, himself.   So, you are not to far behind - Tracy and Rob and LP were more interesting !!!!!!

I know I didn't listen to it....I missed it completely!!  But must have read something about it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 05:46:58 PM
Tidbit:  If you want to hear the hearing from today:
Part 1:   
http://www.wesh.com/video/20793771/index.html
Part 2:
http://www.wesh.com/video/20794973/index.html

thanks...I did get to listen to most of it....gggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr  but will go back and listen to what I missed.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 05:50:55 PM
Blink...I see you in the rafters...please come down!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 05:54:25 PM




Might not want to start drinking until noon according to news13.........


snipped

At the second hearing, scheduled for 3:15 p.m. Wednesday, Gonzalez’s attorneys will ask the judge to force Casey’s parents, George and Cindy Anthony, to answer more questions.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/9/8/caseys_lawyers_try_to_delay_zenaidas_lawsuit.html

ahhhhhh thanks...it will be 4:15 my time....almost margarita time!!

Has anyone seen any of the documents that were supposed to be released last Friday?  We got the interviews but so far I have seen no documents?



I've seen nary a document....margaritas sound perfect

thanks N2.....

I keep going through notes I took during the interviews and I know I missed a lot...so I am going to go over them again...one thing, among the many, that jumped out at me was when Rob mentioned that Casey said: "they haven't even found the clothes she was wearing" 

That's so bizarre....as if she expected Caylee's clothes to be found...but not Caylee. It shows me that she knew that Caylee would decompose quickly in the environment and never expected her to be found. I keep in mind that she was a CSI nut!!

Also, does anyone remember Kronk saying he found a skull with duct tape on it? And reported it that way? 

No, I don't think we knew anything about the duct tape until the remains were being recovered. I don't remember the 911 calls from him saying anything about duct tape. JMO

Fanny,
Sorry, you are wrong on this.  The 911 call was in last dump. 
http://www.wesh.com/video/20727260/index.html

That is what I said, if you look back. We had other 911 calls before the dump on 9/4 that didn't include the duct tape, and I said the narrative that Kronk wrote on the day Caylee was found did not mention duct tape IIRC.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on September 08, 2009, 05:57:55 PM
N2 I don't know how you found that...but girl....YOU ROCK!!!! ::MonkeyGavel::



I knew what was on the audio tape but had never listened to it myself. Glad you brought it up again.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 05:59:15 PM
Sunny,
The full 911 call was released the same day as LP, Tracy, Rob, etc.  It is first time we got to hear Kronk say it, himself.   So, you are not to far behind - Tracy and Rob and LP were more interesting !!!!!!

I know I didn't listen to it....I missed it completely!!  But must have read something about it.

I thought you were asking had we heard him say anything about the duct tape before this 911 call out on 9/4. Actually, I never heard him say anything about duct tape on any of his media interviews either. IIRC

Does anyone remember the two co-workers names we were discussing here on the thread a week or so ago? One was Kronk's supevisor and the other had a last name like Jones, or Brown.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 06:00:39 PM
---------------------->  Snip

No, I don't think we knew anything about the duct tape until the remains were being recovered. I don't remember the 911 calls from him saying anything about duct tape. JMO

Fanny,
Sorry, you are wrong on this.  The 911 call was in last dump. 
http://www.wesh.com/video/20727260/index.html

That is what I said, if you look back. We had other 911 calls before the dump on 9/4 that didn't include the duct tape, and I said the narrative that Kronk wrote on the day Caylee was found did not mention duct tape IIRC.

No worries - just responded to what you wrote (bold above) and I think several of us were so excited about Lenny and team (not about sindy! LOL) and if you missed it, I was giving the link to Sunny or you or anyone who missed it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 06:03:11 PM
Sunny,
The full 911 call was released the same day as LP, Tracy, Rob, etc.  It is first time we got to hear Kronk say it, himself.   So, you are not to far behind - Tracy and Rob and LP were more interesting !!!!!!

I know I didn't listen to it....I missed it completely!!  But must have read something about it.

I thought you were asking had we heard him say anything about the duct tape before this 911 call out on 9/4. Actually, I never heard him say anything about duct tape on any of his media interviews either. IIRC

Does anyone remember the two co-workers names we were discussing here on the thread a week or so ago? One was Kronk's supevisor and the other had a last name like Jones, or Brown.

Fanny,
I just posted these on the last page.  Hope this helps.
Roy Kronk – Meter Reader, Orange County Public Works who found Caylee’s remains in a wooded area in the 8900 block of Suburban Drive on 12/11/08.

David E. Dean – Meter Reader, Orange County Public Works.  Roy Kronk’s co-worker who was with him on Suburban Dr. on 8/11/08. Stumbled upon a snake – picked it up with a shovel and put into the back of his truck.

Christopher Gibson – Meter Reader, Orange County Public Works. Roy Kronk’s co-worker who was with him on Suburban Dr. on 8/11/08.

Tim Armstrong – Meter Reader, Orange County Public Works. Roy Kronk’s co-worker.

Alex Roberts – Roy Kronk’s Supervisor, Orange County Public Works

Carl Spare – Utilities Account Supv. for Field Services, Orange County Public Works recorded what Kronk reported over the radio about his find at Suburban Dr. on 12/11/08.
From: http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/casey-anthony-whos-who-list-revised-8-20-2009/casey-anthony-all-others-directly-or-indirectly-linked/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 06:07:42 PM
Sunny,
The full 911 call was released the same day as LP, Tracy, Rob, etc.  It is first time we got to hear Kronk say it, himself.   So, you are not to far behind - Tracy and Rob and LP were more interesting !!!!!!

I know I didn't listen to it....I missed it completely!!  But must have read something about it.

I thought you were asking had we heard him say anything about the duct tape before this 911 call out on 9/4. Actually, I never heard him say anything about duct tape on any of his media interviews either. IIRC

Does anyone remember the two co-workers names we were discussing here on the thread a week or so ago? One was Kronk's supevisor and the other had a last name like Jones, or Brown.

Fanny,
I just posted these on the last page.  Hope this helps.
Roy Kronk – Meter Reader, Orange County Public Works who found Caylee’s remains in a wooded area in the 8900 block of Suburban Drive on 12/11/08.

David E. Dean – Meter Reader, Orange County Public Works.  Roy Kronk’s co-worker who was with him on Suburban Dr. on 8/11/08. Stumbled upon a snake – picked it up with a shovel and put into the back of his truck.

Christopher Gibson – Meter Reader, Orange County Public Works. Roy Kronk’s co-worker who was with him on Suburban Dr. on 8/11/08.

Tim Armstrong – Meter Reader, Orange County Public Works. Roy Kronk’s co-worker.

Alex Roberts – Roy Kronk’s Supervisor, Orange County Public Works

Carl Spare – Utilities Account Supv. for Field Services, Orange County Public Works recorded what Kronk reported over the radio about his find at Suburban Dr. on 12/11/08.
From: http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/casey-anthony-whos-who-list-revised-8-20-2009/casey-anthony-all-others-directly-or-indirectly-linked/

Thanks.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I thought Sunny had put the question mark in her notebook about the duct tape because she had already heard the 911 from 9/4. I take notes too when I listen to the interviews.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 06:08:30 PM
Sunny,
The full 911 call was released the same day as LP, Tracy, Rob, etc.  It is first time we got to hear Kronk say it, himself.   So, you are not to far behind - Tracy and Rob and LP were more interesting !!!!!!

I know I didn't listen to it....I missed it completely!!  But must have read something about it.

I don't have a souce (might be able to find) but seems like Kronk might have said something or a reporter knew about the duct tape very early on, but then it went all hush, hush.  So, I think Kronk was told to keep that mum.  Thus, why we got only part of his 911 call before.  I think this was an investigative lead they shut up real quick, till they made sure they had all the duct tape from the home.  JMHO.
So, I don't think you were imagining it or taking ambien! LOL  Now, new toys.....
 ::MonkeyWeight::   ::MonkeyViolin::   ::MonkeyWeight::
HAHA - Klaas............you are too much!   ::MonkeyFBall::  Football monkey! LMAO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 08, 2009, 06:28:13 PM
Tidbit:  If you want to hear the hearing from today:
Part 1:   
http://www.wesh.com/video/20793771/index.html
Part 2:
http://www.wesh.com/video/20794973/index.html

Thank you ANJM, I was hoping someone would post this as I was late...again...sigh  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: klaasend on September 08, 2009, 06:28:18 PM
O/T when I get bored I play around with the emoticons  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 06:49:19 PM
I think these are new pic's released. 
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-casey-anthony-trial-case-photos,0,2398805.photogallery

Look at pic 2 -ABSINTHE ---- that is some strong $hit. 
From Wikipedia:  Absinthe is historically described as a distilled, highly alcoholic (45%–74% ABV) beverage.[1][2][3][4] It is an anise-flavored spirit derived from herbs, including the flowers and leaves of the herb Artemisia absinthium, commonly referred to as "grande wormwood". Absinthe traditionally has a natural green color but can also be colorless. It is commonly referred to in historical literature as "la fée verte" (the Green Fairy).

Green Fairy --- shamrocks????? Any connection????? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 06:51:22 PM
N2 I don't know how you found that...but girl....YOU ROCK!!!! ::MonkeyGavel::



I knew what was on the audio tape but had never listened to it myself. Glad you brought it up again.

I am glad you knew what I was talking about!  LOL   cause I wasn't sure!! ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 06:53:23 PM
Sunny,
The full 911 call was released the same day as LP, Tracy, Rob, etc.  It is first time we got to hear Kronk say it, himself.   So, you are not to far behind - Tracy and Rob and LP were more interesting !!!!!!

I know I didn't listen to it....I missed it completely!!  But must have read something about it.

I thought you were asking had we heard him say anything about the duct tape before this 911 call out on 9/4. Actually, I never heard him say anything about duct tape on any of his media interviews either. IIRC

Does anyone remember the two co-workers names we were discussing here on the thread a week or so ago? One was Kronk's supevisor and the other had a last name like Jones, or Brown.

I wasn't sure what I was asking...I was reading my own notes and hadn't a clue why I had written that down!  LOL 

ANJ just posted all the names a page or 2 back....that list might refresh your memory


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 06:55:04 PM
Sunny,
The full 911 call was released the same day as LP, Tracy, Rob, etc.  It is first time we got to hear Kronk say it, himself.   So, you are not to far behind - Tracy and Rob and LP were more interesting !!!!!!

I know I didn't listen to it....I missed it completely!!  But must have read something about it.

I thought you were asking had we heard him say anything about the duct tape before this 911 call out on 9/4. Actually, I never heard him say anything about duct tape on any of his media interviews either. IIRC

Does anyone remember the two co-workers names we were discussing here on the thread a week or so ago? One was Kronk's supevisor and the other had a last name like Jones, or Brown.

Fanny,
I just posted these on the last page.  Hope this helps.
Roy Kronk – Meter Reader, Orange County Public Works who found Caylee’s remains in a wooded area in the 8900 block of Suburban Drive on 12/11/08.

David E. Dean – Meter Reader, Orange County Public Works.  Roy Kronk’s co-worker who was with him on Suburban Dr. on 8/11/08. Stumbled upon a snake – picked it up with a shovel and put into the back of his truck.

Christopher Gibson – Meter Reader, Orange County Public Works. Roy Kronk’s co-worker who was with him on Suburban Dr. on 8/11/08.

Tim Armstrong – Meter Reader, Orange County Public Works. Roy Kronk’s co-worker.

Alex Roberts – Roy Kronk’s Supervisor, Orange County Public Works

Carl Spare – Utilities Account Supv. for Field Services, Orange County Public Works recorded what Kronk reported over the radio about his find at Suburban Dr. on 12/11/08.
From: http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/casey-anthony-whos-who-list-revised-8-20-2009/casey-anthony-all-others-directly-or-indirectly-linked/

hahahah  GMTA - I just told Fanny you posted these and it might help jog her memory!  LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 06:57:08 PM
Sunny,
The full 911 call was released the same day as LP, Tracy, Rob, etc.  It is first time we got to hear Kronk say it, himself.   So, you are not to far behind - Tracy and Rob and LP were more interesting !!!!!!

I know I didn't listen to it....I missed it completely!!  But must have read something about it.

I don't have a souce (might be able to find) but seems like Kronk might have said something or a reporter knew about the duct tape very early on, but then it went all hush, hush.  So, I think Kronk was told to keep that mum.  Thus, why we got only part of his 911 call before.  I think this was an investigative lead they shut up real quick, till they made sure they had all the duct tape from the home.  JMHO.
So, I don't think you were imagining it or taking ambien! LOL  Now, new toys.....
 ::MonkeyWeight::   ::MonkeyViolin::   ::MonkeyWeight::
HAHA - Klaas............you are too much!   ::MonkeyFBall::  Football monkey! LMAO

I think you are right about the popo shutting him up about the duct tape. ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 06:58:07 PM
I think these are new pic's released. 
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-casey-anthony-trial-case-photos,0,2398805.photogallery

Look at pic 2 -ABSINTHE ---- that is some strong $hit. 
From Wikipedia:  Absinthe is historically described as a distilled, highly alcoholic (45%–74% ABV) beverage.[1][2][3][4] It is an anise-flavored spirit derived from herbs, including the flowers and leaves of the herb Artemisia absinthium, commonly referred to as "grande wormwood". Absinthe traditionally has a natural green color but can also be colorless. It is commonly referred to in historical literature as "la fée verte" (the Green Fairy).

Green Fairy --- shamrocks????? Any connection????? 

I have seen most of these, but are new for me (but I bet seeme had them! LOL)
But, on this link - look at pic 59 - Caylee looks horrible and is that an injury on her lip?  What on earth was that  (BEEP) doing to her?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 06:58:46 PM
O/T when I get bored I play around with the emoticons  ::MonkeyCool::
::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyLaugh::  I said earlier we were all such good monks that you were bored.....I could cuss, spit and stomp my feet if you want some action!! ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 07:01:14 PM
O/T when I get bored I play around with the emoticons  ::MonkeyCool::

That is okay, we all have our vice - I say tacky things like.............

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-casey-anthony-trial-case-photos,0,2398805.photogallery    #68 - seems saggy runs in the family!   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 07:06:34 PM
I think these are new pic's released. 
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-casey-anthony-trial-case-photos,0,2398805.photogallery

Look at pic 2 -ABSINTHE ---- that is some strong $hit. 
From Wikipedia:  Absinthe is historically described as a distilled, highly alcoholic (45%–74% ABV) beverage.[1][2][3][4] It is an anise-flavored spirit derived from herbs, including the flowers and leaves of the herb Artemisia absinthium, commonly referred to as "grande wormwood". Absinthe traditionally has a natural green color but can also be colorless. It is commonly referred to in historical literature as "la fée verte" (the Green Fairy).

Green Fairy --- shamrocks????? Any connection????? 

thanks for the link!  I'd bet there is not one person in those friends photos that don't regret ever meeting her


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 07:17:44 PM

Casey Anthony: Did the judge in civil suit send a signal or not?
posted by halboedeker on Sep 8, 2009 6:46:27 PM
<snipped>
Jonathan Kasen, Anthony's civil attorney, asked the judge to delay or throw out the case.

"Earlier this year the same judge denied such a request," WKMG-Channel 6's Mike DeForest said. "But today in court, he made a stunning admission."

"I may have been wrong," Orange Circuit Court Judge Jose Rodriguez said. A new decision on delaying the case could come in a month.

What did Rodriguez's comments mean?


"The judge is not going for that motion to dismiss this particular suit but he did send a very strong signal that he is considering permanently putting it on the back burner until after the criminal case against Casey is over," WESH-Channel 2's Bob Kealing.

But DeForest said: "Based on many of the judge's comments today, many in the courtroom felt like he was leaning toward postponing that civil case, but the judge stressed he has not made any decision yet."

WESH anchor Martha Sugalski asked, "Where's the harm in Casey taking the stand and answering one question?"

Kealing replied, "In this civil case, the judge could order her to answer. But Casey's lawyer says it would open the door to more questions, cross examination, and he says prosecutors in the murder case could be sitting right there in the courtroom taking notes and later use her answers against her."
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-what-did-judge-mean-in-civil-suit.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 07:18:53 PM
I think these are new pic's released. 
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-casey-anthony-trial-case-photos,0,2398805.photogallery

Look at pic 2 -ABSINTHE ---- that is some strong $hit. 
From Wikipedia:  Absinthe is historically described as a distilled, highly alcoholic (45%–74% ABV) beverage.[1][2][3][4] It is an anise-flavored spirit derived from herbs, including the flowers and leaves of the herb Artemisia absinthium, commonly referred to as "grande wormwood". Absinthe traditionally has a natural green color but can also be colorless. It is commonly referred to in historical literature as "la fée verte" (the Green Fairy).

Green Fairy --- shamrocks????? Any connection????? 

thanks for the link!  I'd bet there is not one person in those friends photos that don't regret ever meeting her

You got that right.   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 07:19:02 PM
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4238.msg575971#msg575971

Post #804 Klaas post a live shot with WFTV at remains site on Dec 11, 2008 @ 10:08 .51, and a banner across the top states "Duct Tape Near Body.

Post #1205 By TODAY 11:55.33 said "Reporter Holly Bristow said duct tape was across mouth of the skull."

We knew about the duct tape on the skull before noon SM time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on September 08, 2009, 07:19:05 PM
I think these are new pic's released. 
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-casey-anthony-trial-case-photos,0,2398805.photogallery

Look at pic 2 -ABSINTHE ---- that is some strong $hit. 
From Wikipedia:  Absinthe is historically described as a distilled, highly alcoholic (45%–74% ABV) beverage.[1][2][3][4] It is an anise-flavored spirit derived from herbs, including the flowers and leaves of the herb Artemisia absinthium, commonly referred to as "grande wormwood". Absinthe traditionally has a natural green color but can also be colorless. It is commonly referred to in historical literature as "la fée verte" (the Green Fairy).

Green Fairy --- shamrocks????? Any connection????? 

thanks for the link!  I'd bet there is not one person in those friends photos that don't regret ever meeting her



I agree with you for the most part but one friend in particular comes to mind that I have a real aversion to. Namely Annie D. Can't stand her and don't believe a word that comes out of her mouth.........


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 08, 2009, 07:24:46 PM
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4238.msg575971#msg575971

Post #804 Klaas post a live shot with WFTV at remains site on Dec 11, 2008 @ 10:08 .51, and a banner across the top states "Duct Tape Near Body.

Post #1205 By TODAY 11:55.33 said "Reporter Holly Bristow said duct tape was across mouth of the skull."

We knew about the duct tape on the skull before noon SM time.

Thanks for looking those up.  But then it went kinda hush, hush - I think they got it from Kronk somehow and then he was told to be quiet as they were still in active investigation and wanted to secure all the duct tape in home and cars. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 08, 2009, 07:35:01 PM
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4238.msg575971#msg575971

Post #804 Klaas post a live shot with WFTV at remains site on Dec 11, 2008 @ 10:08 .51, and a banner across the top states "Duct Tape Near Body.

Post #1205 By TODAY 11:55.33 said "Reporter Holly Bristow said duct tape was across mouth of the skull."

We knew about the duct tape on the skull before noon SM time.

Thanks for looking those up.  But then it went kinda hush, hush - I think they got it from Kronk somehow and then he was told to be quiet as they were still in active investigation and wanted to secure all the duct tape in home and cars. 


I read over there for quite a while. The POPO was already at the Anthony house by the time the duct tape came out, and they had already run Mallory off. There was another live video posted with the sheriff's car parked sidways in the driveway.

It was hard to go back and read from that day.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 07:48:00 PM

http://www.wftv.com/news/20798712/detail.html



Judge Could Force George, Cindy To Talk

Posted: 5:54 pm EDT September 8, 2009Updated: 7:27 pm EDT September 8, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- George and Cindy Anthony could be forced to answer more questions in the civil case against their daughter Casey after a hearing Wednesday. Tuesday, the judge decided not to rule on whether to throw out the case.

VIDEO REPORT: George, Cindy May Have To Talk

Zenaida Gonzalez has the same name as the woman who Casey named as her daughter's kidnapper. Gonzalez is suing Casey for defamation. The attorneys for Gonzalez said the Anthonys were difficult, so now they want a judge to order them to talk.

"I'm not answering that," George Anthony told Keith Mitnik while being deposed.

"You are refusing to answer it," Mitnik told him.

"Take it anyway you want to take it," George said. "I'm not answering it."

That's the answer George gave to Mitnik when he asked George if Casey Anthony ever stole money from other people.

The attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez say George, Cindy and Lee Anthony have been combative and uncooperative during depositions.

"I'm not going to mic up. If someone does it I'm filing harassment charges," Cindy Anthony said during her deposition.

Mitnik will go before the judge Wednesday and ask him to order the Anthonys to answer some more of his questions. If the judge orders the Anthonys to answer the questions and they refuse they could be held in contempt of court.

"We thought it was inappropriate for him not to answer. He has no Fifth Amendment rights, so we expect some answers," Mitnik said.

George and Cindy Anthonys' attorney, Brad Conway, said he doesn't feel his clients should have to answer the questions, because it may be used in the criminal case. He also feels the other attorneys are using the depositions inappropriately by distributing it to the media and have created unnecessary scrutiny for the Anthonys.

Gonzalez's attorneys are also upset at private investigator Dominique Casey. He didn't even show up for his deposition.

Brad Conway said the Anthonys will probably not show up Wednesday. The hearing is set for 3:15 Wednesday.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 08, 2009, 07:55:50 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20779118/detail.html
Decision Delayed In Anthony Civil Case
Defense Attorney Cleared Of All Ethics Complaints

POSTED: Monday, September 7, 2009
UPDATED: 7:44 pm EDT September 8, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- A Florida judge has postponed deciding whether to dismiss a defamation lawsuit filed by a Central Florida woman who claims Casey Anthony damaged her reputation.
The judge in Orlando also delayed deciding whether to postpone the defamation lawsuit until after Anthony's criminal trial on a first-degree murder charge.

Anthony, 23, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found in December. Anthony has pleaded not guilty to the charges, and she told investigators that she left Caylee with a baby sitter named Zenaida Gonzalez last summer and that the two were gone when she returned to pick up her daughter.

Investigators believe Anthony made up the story about the nanny.

A woman by the name of Zenaida Gonzalez has filed a defamation lawsuit against Anthony, seeking $15,000 and claiming that she could not secure employment because of the link to the case.

Anthony's attorneys said their client will remain silent because anything she says to defend herself in the civil case could later be used to convict her of murder.

"That in a criminal context she has no obligation to ever make a statement. She can invoke her fifth, here, she can be compelled to testify," Anthony's attorney Jonathan Kasen said.

Kasen said he believes it is more important than ever, now that Anthony could face the death penalty, for her to exercise her constitutional right to remain silent, even in the civil case.

Gonzalez's attorney, Keith Mitnick, said his client's right to clear her name is just as important as Anthony's right to remain silent.
"She wants her day in court. She wants some form of justice to come of this, and we're anxious to get there as fast as we can," Mitnick said.

Judge Jose Rodriguez denied a request to throw the lawsuit out earlier this year, but on Tuesday said he "may have been wrong in that instance."

If Rodriguez allows the case to move forward, Anthony's attorneys will request that the civil case be postponed until after her murder trial, which is scheduled to begin next year.

Gonzalez's attorneys will return to court on Wednesday to ask a judge to force Anthony's parents, George and Cindy Anthony, to answer questions they refused to answer during depositions earlier this year.

Meanwhile, Anthony's criminal defense attorney has been cleared of all formal complaints against him by the Florida Bar. Jose Baez was cleared of a complaint made by a private investigator last week, and on Tuesday the bar cleared him of a complaint regarding allegations that he was improperly profiting from book and movie deals.

The bar determined there was no evidence that Baez violated any ethics rules.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 07:56:07 PM
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4238.msg575971#msg575971

Post #804 Klaas post a live shot with WFTV at remains site on Dec 11, 2008 @ 10:08 .51, and a banner across the top states "Duct Tape Near Body.

Post #1205 By TODAY 11:55.33 said "Reporter Holly Bristow said duct tape was across mouth of the skull."

We knew about the duct tape on the skull before noon SM time.

Thanks for looking those up.  But then it went kinda hush, hush - I think they got it from Kronk somehow and then he was told to be quiet as they were still in active investigation and wanted to secure all the duct tape in home and cars. 


I read over there for quite a while. The POPO was already at the Anthony house by the time the duct tape came out, and they had already run Mallory off. There was another live video posted with the sheriff's car parked sidways in the driveway.

It was hard to go back and read from that day.  ::MonkeyWaa::

I went back and read some as well....and I decided I didn't want to re-visit that day.....I saw the post by TODAY but I swear I don't remember it......but the thread was really moving fast that day.....I am sure.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 08, 2009, 08:14:56 PM
Night Monks....going to take the dogs for their walk!!  Peace and Justice for all!!

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 08, 2009, 08:37:07 PM
Sunny  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 08, 2009, 11:19:10 PM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/08/ng.01.html

Snipped from Nancy Grace tonight:

GRACE: It really is. I want to go to Bill Sheaffer, defense attorney, WFTV legal analyst, who has been in court today.

Bill Sheaffer, what`s also disturbing is that just out of the blue when she`s having this conversation about drugs she just blurts out oh, yes, and chloroform. And that was before scientists had identified that in her car trunk with traces of human decomposition.

BILL SHEAFFER, DEFENSE ATTORNEY, WFTV LEGAL ANALYST, IN COURT TODAY: I agree. That`s a very damning and telling statement that she made. I think in the order of significance the rarity of the duct tape that we find now was present on the gas can and present on Caylee`s body.

Her attempt to say that oh, the decomposition air in the trunk of the car, lots of people had access to the car, and then the hair, which is consistent with hers or Caylee`s, cavalierly saying that, well, at least -- well, I`m alive.

All of these are very damning.

GRACE: Yes. And I want to put that in context. With me, Bill Sheaffer out of Orlando, well-known attorney in that area.

Bill, apparently -- and correct me if I`m wrong because I`m just reading this information. It comes up that the hair in the trunk has to be either her or Caylee. And the person is dead. And we know this through DNA and through the death rings on the hair band. And she said, well, hey, I`m alive.

SHEAFFER: You know something, I`ve had very little doubt in my mind from the very beginning that the prosecutors are not going to -- are going to get a guilty verdict. I had doubt in my mind until now that they could get a jury to return a recommendation of a sentence of death.

I believe she is facing the real possibility that this jury is going to return a guilty verdict and recommend death.


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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Protect the little babies on September 08, 2009, 11:39:09 PM
 ::MonkeySlide:: ::MonkeySlide:: ::MonkeySlide::

Hello monkeys, I am not sure if these have been posted or not so I will just drop them in....  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

RAW INTERVIEW: Casey's Attorney Talks After Civil Case Hearing
Casey Anthony's attorney, Jonathon Kasen, spoke after a hearing in the civil defamation case she's facing. (09/08/0...

http://www.wftv.com/video/20796934/

RAW INTERVIEW: Zenaida's Attorney Talks After Civil Case Hearing
Zenaida Gonzalez attorney Keith Mitnik talks after a hearing in the civil case against Casey Anthony. (09/08/09)
http://www.wftv.com/video/20797070/

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 09, 2009, 12:23:14 AM
Good evening/morning!  Just have a few quick minutes here.  First of all, THANKS to all of our monkeys who posted links and play-by-play commentary of ZG civil suit case today.  THANKS also to those who weighed in on Roy Kronk's 911 call reporting Caylee's remains and the duct tape disclosure.  That helps lots of short-on-time, long-on-love & justice-for Caylee monkeys like me.
Secondly, quick question...Are Cindy & George required to show on Wednesday or is this just a hearing to decide whether they will have to answer those questions at a follow-up deposition?  It's a tad confusing from the newscasts, but I think it's option #2.  I want those questions answered.  They should be forced to admit on the record that Casey had no money to pay any babysitter (Oh, excuuuuuse- "Naaahhhhny").


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 09, 2009, 01:34:10 AM
Well, my play times up, so have a good one and take care!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 05:40:57 AM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/08/ng.01.html

Snipped from Nancy Grace tonight:

GRACE: It really is. I want to go to Bill Sheaffer, defense attorney, WFTV legal analyst, who has been in court today.

Bill Sheaffer, what`s also disturbing is that just out of the blue when she`s having this conversation about drugs she just blurts out oh, yes, and chloroform. And that was before scientists had identified that in her car trunk with traces of human decomposition.

BILL SHEAFFER, DEFENSE ATTORNEY, WFTV LEGAL ANALYST, IN COURT TODAY: I agree. That`s a very damning and telling statement that she made. I think in the order of significance the rarity of the duct tape that we find now was present on the gas can and present on Caylee`s body.

Her attempt to say that oh, the decomposition air in the trunk of the car, lots of people had access to the car, and then the hair, which is consistent with hers or Caylee`s, cavalierly saying that, well, at least -- well, I`m alive.

All of these are very damning.

GRACE: Yes. And I want to put that in context. With me, Bill Sheaffer out of Orlando, well-known attorney in that area.

Bill, apparently -- and correct me if I`m wrong because I`m just reading this information. It comes up that the hair in the trunk has to be either her or Caylee. And the person is dead. And we know this through DNA and through the death rings on the hair band. And she said, well, hey, I`m alive.

SHEAFFER: You know something, I`ve had very little doubt in my mind from the very beginning that the prosecutors are not going to -- are going to get a guilty verdict. I had doubt in my mind until now that they could get a jury to return a recommendation of a sentence of death.

I believe she is facing the real possibility that this jury is going to return a guilty verdict and recommend death.
 
 ::MonkeyDance::    ::MonkeyDance::::MonkeyGavel::::MonkeyJustice::

Hey hey monkeys

 ::MonkeyJustice::  Its hammer time!  ::MonkeyGavel::   Totally agree with Sheaffer's comment above

Ispy, George & Cindy are not required to appear for the hearing of this motion.   If the judge rules they have to answer what they refused/objected  to on insufficient grounds they will return by court order to answer questions in deposition (yes Morgan will videotape it).   After Lenny & crew's interviews with the FBI/OCSO came out & the glimpse of duct tape indeed coming from that satan's den on Hopespring Drive you'd think they would try to bury their heads forever in eastbumblefudge!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 09, 2009, 06:47:19 AM
(http://i.mycommentspace.com/9/982.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 09, 2009, 06:48:44 AM
Nancy Grace Part 1   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1V0XsmC5IY&feature=channel_page
                  Part 2   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rui3SEohTkM&feature=channel_page


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 09, 2009, 06:51:40 AM
Issues  09/08/09  Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Xicln11aTM&feature=channel_page
         Part 2  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=971JSvCLd0A&feature=channel_page


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 09, 2009, 07:00:52 AM
::MonkeySlide:: ::MonkeySlide:: ::MonkeySlide::

Hello monkeys, I am not sure if these have been posted or not so I will just drop them in....  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

RAW INTERVIEW: Casey's Attorney Talks After Civil Case Hearing
Casey Anthony's attorney, Jonathon Kasen, spoke after a hearing in the civil defamation case she's facing. (09/08/0...

http://www.wftv.com/video/20796934/

RAW INTERVIEW: Zenaida's Attorney Talks After Civil Case Hearing
Zenaida Gonzalez attorney Keith Mitnik talks after a hearing in the civil case against Casey Anthony. (09/08/09)
http://www.wftv.com/video/20797070/

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



Thanks.    ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 09, 2009, 07:59:39 AM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/9/9/will_anthonys_be_forced_to_answer_more_questions.html
 Will Anthonys Be Forced To Answer More Questions?
Wednesday, September 09, 2009 5:47:36 AM
ORLANDO -- A hearing is set for today in the defamation case against Casey Anthony.

Zenaida Gonzalez says that her reputation was damaged as a result of Casey's story that a nanny with her name took Caylee Anthony.
   
On Wednesday, Gonzalez's lawyers will ask that both George and Cindy Anthony answer more questions under oath.
   
Both were questioned in April for hours by Gonzalez’s attorneys.
   
Meantime, an Orange County judge postponed a decision on whether to throw out the defamation lawsuit filed by Gonzalez.
   
The judge also delayed deciding whether to postpone the defamation lawsuit until after Casey's criminal trial on a first-degree murder charge.

Today's hearing is set for 3:15 p.m.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 09, 2009, 08:03:01 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-update-090909,0,165700.story
Casey Anthony civil case: Will her parents answer questions?
A judge will listen to more arguments today in the defamation case against Casey Anthony.
A judge today will hear another round of arguments in the defamation case against accused killer Casey Anthony.

An attorney for Zenaida Gonzalez, a Kissimmee mother of six who claims her reputation was damaged by Anthony, will ask a judge to force Casey Anthony's parents to answer specific questions that they declined to answer during depositions.

Casey Anthony is accused of killing her daughter, 2-year-old Caylee Marie, last year.

Gonzalez claims her reputation was hurt when Casey Anthony claimed a nanny by the name of Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez took her daughter.

Investigators have said that there was never a nanny and Casey Anthony was responsible for her daughter's death.

At one point, Gonzalez - the one suing Casey Anthony - was questioned and cleared. She is suing Casey Anthony for more than $15,000.

Casey Anthony, 23, is charged with first-degree murder in the toddler's death. Caylee's remains were found in December in woods less than a mile from her family home in east Orange County. The state is seeking the death penalty.
A criminal trial is expected to begin next summer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 09, 2009, 09:31:04 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20809291/detail.html
Hearing Slated In Casey Anthony Civil Case
Parents May Be Forced To Answer Tough Questions

POSTED: 8:50 am EDT September 9, 2009
UPDATED: 9:03 am EDT September 9, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The parents of Casey Anthony could be forced to answer some tough questions about the disappearance of their granddaughter from a babysitter that was blamed for the abduction.

Zenaida Gonzales is the woman who claims Anthony ruined her reputation by saying someone by the same name abducted Caylee.

George and Cindy Anthony became angry when they were questioned about Gonzales at a deposition in April.

Attorneys for Gonzales said Casey Anthony has never said publicly that their client didn't take Caylee, so they must look deeper to restore Gonzales' good name.

"She is the only Zenaida Gonzales that has ever been questioned by the police, the only Zenaida Gonzales that ever lost her job, the only Zenaida Gonzales that ever was kicked out of her place," Attorney John Morgan said.

Casey Anthony's attorneys were in court on Tuesday hoping to get the civil lawsuit delayed or dismissed. The judge hasn't ruled on the motion yet.

Wednesday's afternoon hearing is slated at the Orange County Courthouse.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 09:40:53 AM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/08/ng.01.html

Snipped from Nancy Grace tonight:

GRACE: It really is. I want to go to Bill Sheaffer, defense attorney, WFTV legal analyst, who has been in court today.

Bill Sheaffer, what`s also disturbing is that just out of the blue when she`s having this conversation about drugs she just blurts out oh, yes, and chloroform. And that was before scientists had identified that in her car trunk with traces of human decomposition.

BILL SHEAFFER, DEFENSE ATTORNEY, WFTV LEGAL ANALYST, IN COURT TODAY: I agree. That`s a very damning and telling statement that she made. I think in the order of significance the rarity of the duct tape that we find now was present on the gas can and present on Caylee`s body.

Her attempt to say that oh, the decomposition air in the trunk of the car, lots of people had access to the car, and then the hair, which is consistent with hers or Caylee`s, cavalierly saying that, well, at least -- well, I`m alive.

All of these are very damning.

GRACE: Yes. And I want to put that in context. With me, Bill Sheaffer out of Orlando, well-known attorney in that area.

Bill, apparently -- and correct me if I`m wrong because I`m just reading this information. It comes up that the hair in the trunk has to be either her or Caylee. And the person is dead. And we know this through DNA and through the death rings on the hair band. And she said, well, hey, I`m alive.

SHEAFFER: You know something, I`ve had very little doubt in my mind from the very beginning that the prosecutors are not going to -- are going to get a guilty verdict. I had doubt in my mind until now that they could get a jury to return a recommendation of a sentence of death.

I believe she is facing the real possibility that this jury is going to return a guilty verdict and recommend death.


 ::MonkeyDance::    ::MonkeyDance::::MonkeyGavel::::MonkeyJustice::

Good Morning Monks old and new!!!  Tupelo, good to have you back and thanks for posting this. I didn't watch NG....she is like medicine.....nasty tasting medicine!! ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 09:42:11 AM
::MonkeySlide:: ::MonkeySlide:: ::MonkeySlide::

Hello monkeys, I am not sure if these have been posted or not so I will just drop them in....  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

RAW INTERVIEW: Casey's Attorney Talks After Civil Case Hearing
Casey Anthony's attorney, Jonathon Kasen, spoke after a hearing in the civil defamation case she's facing. (09/08/0...

http://www.wftv.com/video/20796934/

RAW INTERVIEW: Zenaida's Attorney Talks After Civil Case Hearing
Zenaida Gonzalez attorney Keith Mitnik talks after a hearing in the civil case against Casey Anthony. (09/08/09)
http://www.wftv.com/video/20797070/

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



Protect...thanks!!  Appreciate you posting these!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 09:50:01 AM
(http://i.mycommentspace.com/9/982.jpg)

Good Morning trim!!!  You always start my morning off with a smile!! ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Jesse on September 09, 2009, 10:03:43 AM
If the judge today says that the A's dont have to answer the rest of the questions i will be furious. They need to be treated like anyone else who blatantly refuses to answer questions in a depo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 09, 2009, 10:14:02 AM
If the judge today says that the A's dont have to answer the rest of the questions i will be furious. They need to be treated like anyone else who blatantly refuses to answer questions in a depo

I agree.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 09, 2009, 10:15:36 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!! 

Sunny, thanks and it's good to be back!



http://www.wesh.com/news/20809291/detail.html

Hearing Slated In Casey Anthony Civil Case
Parents May Be Forced To Answer Tough Questions

POSTED: 8:50 am EDT September 9, 2009
UPDATED: 10:02 am EDT September 9, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The parents of Casey Anthony could be forced to answer some tough questions about the disappearance of their granddaughter from a babysitter that was blamed for the abduction.

Zenaida Gonzalez is the woman who claims Anthony ruined her reputation by saying someone by the same name abducted Caylee.

George and Cindy Anthony became angry when they were questioned about Gonzalez at a deposition in April.

Attorneys for Gonzalez said Casey Anthony has never said publicly that their client didn't take Caylee, so they must look deeper to restore Gonzalez' good name.

"She is the only Zenaida Gonzalez that has ever been questioned by the police, the only Zenaida Gonzalez that ever lost her job, the only Zenaida Gonzalez that ever was kicked out of her place," Attorney John Morgan said.

Casey Anthony's attorneys were in court on Tuesday hoping to get the civil lawsuit delayed or dismissed. The judge hasn't ruled on the motion yet.

Wednesday's afternoon hearing is slated at the Orange County Courthouse.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 09, 2009, 10:15:47 AM
Hearing Slated In Casey Anthony Civil Case
Parents May Be Forced To Answer Tough Questions
POSTED: 8:50 am EDT September 9, 2009
UPDATED: 10:02 am EDT September 9, 2009
<snipped>
The parents of Casey Anthony could be forced to answer some tough questions about the disappearance of their granddaughter from a babysitter that was blamed for the abduction.

Zenaida Gonzalez is the woman who claims Anthony ruined her reputation by saying someone by the same name abducted Caylee.

George and Cindy Anthony became angry when they were questioned about Gonzalez at a deposition in April.

Attorneys for Gonzalez said Casey Anthony has never said publicly that their client didn't take Caylee, so they must look deeper to restore Gonzalez' good name.

Casey Anthony's attorneys were in court on Tuesday hoping to get the civil lawsuit delayed or dismissed. The judge hasn't ruled on the motion yet.

Wednesday's afternoon hearing is slated at the Orange County Courthouse.
http://www.wesh.com/news/20809291/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 09, 2009, 10:16:49 AM
TupeloHoney..........  Bang!!    ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 09, 2009, 10:28:06 AM
If the judge today says that the A's dont have to answer the rest of the questions i will be furious. They need to be treated like anyone else who blatantly refuses to answer questions in a depo

I agree.  ::MonkeyCool::
I don't remember all the questions that George refused to answer, but the one about Casey stealing money from anyone is important, IMO, as Morgan is trying to make the point of how Casey paid for the nanny. George has already told LE she stole money from various sources.....it is not for him to decide who to tell this to and who he can withhold this same info from. Actually, because he can't plead the 5th, he should be made to answer every question asked of him. I'm not fond of Rodriguez and I have no idea what he will rule today. After yesterday, nothing will surprise me as he is backtracking on his previous decisions.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 09, 2009, 10:30:18 AM
TupeloHoney..........  Bang!!    ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::  You and I are definitely on the same page, in many ways!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 09, 2009, 10:47:45 AM
Hi Monkeys!!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

When I think of what Cindy wouldn't answer, the credit card stuff is the first thing that comes to my mind. I thought at the time that Cindy was squirming so much because if she admitted that Casey had stolen the cards, that would be more legal fodder against Casey, and would help the case against her.  However, if she stated under oath that Casey did have permission to use them, the Credit Card companies could hold her responsible for paying the charges Casey made on the cards.

I also thought that the argument that happened between Cindy and Casey just before Caylee went missing was over the credit cards, and Cindy just wanted to deny that all together.

If Cindy has to answer these questions, it should get interesting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 09, 2009, 10:48:52 AM
http://www.wftv.com/
news/20798712/detail.html
Judge Could Force George, Cindy To Talk

Posted: 5:54 pm EDT September 8, 2009Updated: 10:03 am EDT September 9, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- George and Cindy Anthony could be forced to answer more questions in the civil case against their daughter Casey after a hearing Wednesday. Tuesday, the judge decided not to rule on whether to throw out the case.
Zenaida Gonzalez has the same name as the woman who Casey named as her daughter's kidnapper. Gonzalez is suing Casey for defamation. The attorneys for Gonzalez said the Anthonys were difficult, so now they want a judge to order them to talk.

"I'm not answering that," George Anthony told Keith Mitnik while being deposed.

"You are refusing to answer it," Mitnik told him.

"Take it anyway you want to take it," George said. "I'm not answering it."

That's the answer George gave to Mitnik when he asked George if Casey Anthony ever stole money from other people.

The attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez say George, Cindy and Lee Anthony have been combative and uncooperative during depositions.

"I'm not going to mic up. If someone does it I'm filing harassment charges," Cindy Anthony said during her deposition.
Mitnik will go before the judge Wednesday and ask him to order the Anthonys to answer some more of his questions. If the judge orders the Anthonys to answer the questions and they refuse they could be held in contempt of court.

"We thought it was inappropriate for him not to answer. He has no Fifth Amendment rights, so we expect some answers," Mitnik said.

George and Cindy Anthonys' attorney, Brad Conway, said he doesn't feel his clients should have to answer the questions, because it may be used in the criminal case. He also feels the other attorneys are using the depositions inappropriately by distributing it to the media and have created unnecessary scrutiny for the Anthonys.

Gonzalez's attorneys are also upset at private investigator Dominique Casey. He didn't even show up for his deposition.

Brad Conway said the Anthonys will probably not show up Wednesday. The hearing is set for 3:15 Wednesday.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 09, 2009, 10:50:22 AM
Hi Monkeys!!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

When I think of what Cindy wouldn't answer, the credit card stuff is the first thing that comes to my mind. I thought at the time that Cindy was squirming so much because if she admitted that Casey had stolen the cards, that would be more legal fodder against Casey, and would help the case against her.  However, if she stated under oath that Casey did have permission to use them, the Credit Card companies could hold her responsible for paying the charges Casey made on the cards.

I also thought that the argument that happened between Cindy and Casey just before Caylee went missing was over the credit cards, and Cindy just wanted to deny that all together.

If Cindy has to answer these questions, it should get interesting.

 :smt045


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 10:50:38 AM
If the judge today says that the A's dont have to answer the rest of the questions i will be furious. They need to be treated like anyone else who blatantly refuses to answer questions in a depo

Me too Jesse, not that it will do a lick of good! ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 09, 2009, 10:54:34 AM
If the judge today says that the A's dont have to answer the rest of the questions i will be furious. They need to be treated like anyone else who blatantly refuses to answer questions in a depo

I agree.  ::MonkeyCool::
I don't remember all the questions that George refused to answer, but the one about Casey stealing money from anyone is important, IMO, as Morgan is trying to make the point of how Casey paid for the nanny. George has already told LE she stole money from various sources.....it is not for him to decide who to tell this to and who he can withhold this same info from. Actually, because he can't plead the 5th, he should be made to answer every question asked of him. I'm not fond of Rodriguez and I have no idea what he will rule today. After yesterday, nothing will surprise me as he is backtracking on his previous decisions.

Rodriguez seems a bit confused & unsure of himself to me.  Worrisome.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 10:55:00 AM
Hi Monkeys!!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

When I think of what Cindy wouldn't answer, the credit card stuff is the first thing that comes to my mind. I thought at the time that Cindy was squirming so much because if she admitted that Casey had stolen the cards, that would be more legal fodder against Casey, and would help the case against her.  However, if she stated under oath that Casey did have permission to use them, the Credit Card companies could hold her responsible for paying the charges Casey made on the cards.

I also thought that the argument that happened between Cindy and Casey just before Caylee went missing was over the credit cards, and Cindy just wanted to deny that all together.

If Cindy has to answer these questions, it should get interesting.

Agreed!!  And I hope Judge R gets some you know what's ::MonkeyWink:: and show the A's that they are NOT above the law!

OHMYGAWD...Klaas is at it again!!! ::MonkeyBath2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 09, 2009, 10:55:53 AM
If the judge today says that the A's dont have to answer the rest of the questions i will be furious. They need to be treated like anyone else who blatantly refuses to answer questions in a depo

Me too Jesse, not that it will do a lick of good! ::MonkeyMad::
You just know they won't have to answer squat  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 10:57:03 AM
http://www.wftv.com/
news/20798712/detail.html
Judge Could Force George, Cindy To Talk

Posted: 5:54 pm EDT September 8, 2009Updated: 10:03 am EDT September 9, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- George and Cindy Anthony could be forced to answer more questions in the civil case against their daughter Casey after a hearing Wednesday. Tuesday, the judge decided not to rule on whether to throw out the case.
Zenaida Gonzalez has the same name as the woman who Casey named as her daughter's kidnapper. Gonzalez is suing Casey for defamation. The attorneys for Gonzalez said the Anthonys were difficult, so now they want a judge to order them to talk.

"I'm not answering that," George Anthony told Keith Mitnik while being deposed.

"You are refusing to answer it," Mitnik told him.

"Take it anyway you want to take it," George said. "I'm not answering it."

That's the answer George gave to Mitnik when he asked George if Casey Anthony ever stole money from other people.

The attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez say George, Cindy and Lee Anthony have been combative and uncooperative during depositions.

"I'm not going to mic up. If someone does it I'm filing harassment charges," Cindy Anthony said during her deposition.
Mitnik will go before the judge Wednesday and ask him to order the Anthonys to answer some more of his questions. If the judge orders the Anthonys to answer the questions and they refuse they could be held in contempt of court.

"We thought it was inappropriate for him not to answer. He has no Fifth Amendment rights, so we expect some answers," Mitnik said.

George and Cindy Anthonys' attorney, Brad Conway, said he doesn't feel his clients should have to answer the questions, because it may be used in the criminal case. He also feels the other attorneys are using the depositions inappropriately by distributing it to the media and have created unnecessary scrutiny for the Anthonys.

Gonzalez's attorneys are also upset at private investigator Dominique Casey. He didn't even show up for his deposition.

Brad Conway said the Anthonys will probably not show up Wednesday. The hearing is set for 3:15 Wednesday.

Not showing will be another show of defiance IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 09, 2009, 11:00:29 AM
Hi Monkeys!!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

When I think of what Cindy wouldn't answer, the credit card stuff is the first thing that comes to my mind. I thought at the time that Cindy was squirming so much because if she admitted that Casey had stolen the cards, that would be more legal fodder against Casey, and would help the case against her.  However, if she stated under oath that Casey did have permission to use them, the Credit Card companies could hold her responsible for paying the charges Casey made on the cards.

I also thought that the argument that happened between Cindy and Casey just before Caylee went missing was over the credit cards, and Cindy just wanted to deny that all together.

If Cindy has to answer these questions, it should get interesting.

I suppose they've all lied to so many people for so long about so many things that they're in a cul de sac. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 09, 2009, 11:02:22 AM
 ::MonkeyEek::

OMG! When I first took a glance at this:   ::MonkeyBath2::  I thought it was a suicide emoticon!   ::MonkeyShocked::

I thought the duck was a blow dryer!   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 09, 2009, 11:03:27 AM
Hi Monkeys!!   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

When I think of what Cindy wouldn't answer, the credit card stuff is the first thing that comes to my mind. I thought at the time that Cindy was squirming so much because if she admitted that Casey had stolen the cards, that would be more legal fodder against Casey, and would help the case against her.  However, if she stated under oath that Casey did have permission to use them, the Credit Card companies could hold her responsible for paying the charges Casey made on the cards.

I also thought that the argument that happened between Cindy and Casey just before Caylee went missing was over the credit cards, and Cindy just wanted to deny that all together.

If Cindy has to answer these questions, it should get interesting.

I suppose they've all lied to so many people for so long about so many things that they're in a cul de sac. 

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Exactly!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Babybear on September 09, 2009, 11:04:54 AM
If the judge today says that the A's dont have to answer the rest of the questions i will be furious. They need to be treated like anyone else who blatantly refuses to answer questions in a depo

I agree.  ::MonkeyCool::
I don't remember all the questions that George refused to answer, but the one about Casey stealing money from anyone is important, IMO, as Morgan is trying to make the point of how Casey paid for the nanny. George has already told LE she stole money from various sources.....it is not for him to decide who to tell this to and who he can withhold this same info from. Actually, because he can't plead the 5th, he should be made to answer every question asked of him. I'm not fond of Rodriguez and I have no idea what he will rule today. After yesterday, nothing will surprise me as he is backtracking on his previous decisions.

Rodriguez seems a bit confused & unsure of himself to me.  Worrisome.

I agree with that Ono.  IMO a judge is supposed to make a judgement on a point of law and not to be wishy-washy about it.  Nor should he ridicule a person's accent (After all, Orlando is in the south) or complain about sleepless nights. I personally don't care if he ever gets a good night's sleep.  Were we supposed to feel sorry for him because he has insomnia?  From what I've seen, he's inept.  Maybe it's more of this disgusting "Let's treat the Anthonys with kid gloves because of what they've been through."  Nothing they can ever go through will match what Caylee went through at the hands of her mother and it's time that Casey's parents face up to it.

I hope George of the rubber face is forced to answer the questions he arrogantly refused to answer before, but if yesterday was an example of the judge's performance, I doubt it.

What is it going to take to see that George and Cindy Anthony be made to answer for their actions?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 11:07:06 AM
::MonkeyEek::

OMG! When I first took a glance at this:   ::MonkeyBath2::  I thought it was a suicide emoticon!   ::MonkeyShocked::

I thought the duck was a blow dryer!   ::MonkeyLaugh::

 :smt046 CBB you might need another cup of coffee!! ::MonkeyTease::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 11:10:02 AM
If the judge today says that the A's dont have to answer the rest of the questions i will be furious. They need to be treated like anyone else who blatantly refuses to answer questions in a depo

I agree.  ::MonkeyCool::
I don't remember all the questions that George refused to answer, but the one about Casey stealing money from anyone is important, IMO, as Morgan is trying to make the point of how Casey paid for the nanny. George has already told LE she stole money from various sources.....it is not for him to decide who to tell this to and who he can withhold this same info from. Actually, because he can't plead the 5th, he should be made to answer every question asked of him. I'm not fond of Rodriguez and I have no idea what he will rule today. After yesterday, nothing will surprise me as he is backtracking on his previous decisions.

Rodriguez seems a bit confused & unsure of himself to me.  Worrisome.

I agree with that Ono.  IMO a judge is supposed to make a judgement on a point of law and not to be wishy-washy about it.  Nor should he ridicule a person's accent (After all, Orlando is in the south) or complain about sleepless nights. I personally don't care if he ever gets a good night's sleep.  Were we supposed to feel sorry for him because he has insomnia?  From what I've seen, he's inept.  Maybe it's more of this disgusting "Let's treat the Anthonys with kid gloves because of what they've been through."  Nothing they can ever go through will match what Caylee went through at the hands of her mother and it's time that Casey's parents face up to it.

I hope George of the rubber face is forced to answer the questions he arrogantly refused to answer before, but if yesterday was an example of the judge's performance, I doubt it.

What is it going to take to see that George and Cindy Anthony be made to answer for their actions?

I would love to know the answer to that!!!  I fear it is not going to be Judge RodriguezIto!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 09, 2009, 11:11:41 AM
Zenaida definitely has sure grounds for her defamation lawsuit.  There should be no doubt about that.  It's so obvious.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 09, 2009, 11:12:50 AM
::MonkeyEek::

OMG! When I first took a glance at this:   ::MonkeyBath2::  I thought it was a suicide emoticon!   ::MonkeyShocked::

I thought the duck was a blow dryer!   ::MonkeyLaugh::

 ::MonkeyDevil::  How funny!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: darla on September 09, 2009, 11:30:09 AM
Hi Monkeys!!! Remember me. I have missed you guys so much.
Anything new? I am 2 months behind.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 09, 2009, 11:47:37 AM
Zenaida definitely has sure grounds for her defamation lawsuit.  There should be no doubt about that.  It's so obvious.

Definitely.  She lost her job, her home, her privacy, her anonymity.  People will always recognize her name from now on, and unless they have studied the case they will probably just recall there is something negative connected to her.
I hope she gets every cent they stand to make from 20/20  or any of these scurrilous shows that fund murderers and their families, in order to get a story..   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Babybear on September 09, 2009, 11:48:06 AM
Hi Monkeys!!! Remember me. I have missed you guys so much.
Anything new? I am 2 months behind.

There's a lot new in the Anthony case, depositions by Padilla and his cohorts.  I'll let someone else tell you about it.  I just want to introduce you to the twins, Noah and Sophia.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 09, 2009, 11:57:08 AM
Hi Monkeys!!! Remember me. I have missed you guys so much.
Anything new? I am 2 months behind.

There's a lot new in the Anthony case, depositions by Padilla and his cohorts.  I'll let someone else tell you about it.  I just want to introduce you to the twins, Noah and Sophia.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::
Babybear? You've got a new one at the link in my signaure line, whenever you're ready!   ::MonkeyWink::

Darla!!!   ::MonkeyDance:: It's great to see you!!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 11:59:02 AM
Hi Monkeys!!! Remember me. I have missed you guys so much.
Anything new? I am 2 months behind.

hi Darla...of course I remember you.  Not a lot until lately...you might want to start here
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3222.680   Media Releases

and check out the new documents from last Friday's release....audio interviews with LP, RD and Tracy. And if you can get through it an audio of sin-sin


http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/9/4/new_casey_anthony_evidence.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 09, 2009, 12:29:01 PM
Hi Monkeys!!! Remember me. I have missed you guys so much.
Anything new? I am 2 months behind.

Welcome back - where you been?  Okay, you have till 3:15 to get caught up and be in court - 2months, piece of cake! LOL
 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Babybear on September 09, 2009, 12:39:20 PM
If the judge today says that the A's dont have to answer the rest of the questions i will be furious. They need to be treated like anyone else who blatantly refuses to answer questions in a depo

I agree.  ::MonkeyCool::
I don't remember all the questions that George refused to answer, but the one about Casey stealing money from anyone is important, IMO, as Morgan is trying to make the point of how Casey paid for the nanny. George has already told LE she stole money from various sources.....it is not for him to decide who to tell this to and who he can withhold this same info from. Actually, because he can't plead the 5th, he should be made to answer every question asked of him. I'm not fond of Rodriguez and I have no idea what he will rule today. After yesterday, nothing will surprise me as he is backtracking on his previous decisions.

Rodriguez seems a bit confused & unsure of himself to me.  Worrisome.

I agree with that Ono.  IMO a judge is supposed to make a judgement on a point of law and not to be wishy-washy about it.  Nor should he ridicule a person's accent (After all, Orlando is in the south) or complain about sleepless nights. I personally don't care if he ever gets a good night's sleep.  Were we supposed to feel sorry for him because he has insomnia?  From what I've seen, he's inept.  Maybe it's more of this disgusting "Let's treat the Anthonys with kid gloves because of what they've been through."  Nothing they can ever go through will match what Caylee went through at the hands of her mother and it's time that Casey's parents face up to it.

I hope George of the rubber face is forced to answer the questions he arrogantly refused to answer before, but if yesterday was an example of the judge's performance, I doubt it.

What is it going to take to see that George and Cindy Anthony be made to answer for their actions?

I would love to know the answer to that!!!  I fear it is not going to be Judge RodriguezIto!!

LOL  I'm waiting for the dancing RodriguezItos


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 09, 2009, 12:46:56 PM
::MonkeyEek::

OMG! When I first took a glance at this:   ::MonkeyBath2::  I thought it was a suicide emoticon!   ::MonkeyShocked::

I thought the duck was a blow dryer!   ::MonkeyLaugh::

 :smt046 CBB you might need another cup of coffee!! ::MonkeyTease::
   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 09, 2009, 12:47:38 PM
Hi Monkeys!!! Remember me. I have missed you guys so much.
Anything new? I am 2 months behind.
  Hi Darla  ::MonkeyAngel::  Where too start  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Mtnmom on September 09, 2009, 01:01:54 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_local_orlandocrime/2009/09/what-other-defense-lawyers-have-to-put-up-with-the-abuse-that-casey-anthonys-jose-baez-does.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 01:12:27 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_local_orlandocrime/2009/09/what-other-defense-lawyers-have-to-put-up-with-the-abuse-that-casey-anthonys-jose-baez-does.html

Thanks MTNMOM. That ended like there was something else coming down the pike, didn't it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 01:17:16 PM
Hi Monkeys!!! Remember me. I have missed you guys so much.
Anything new? I am 2 months behind.

Hi DARLA! Good to see you.  ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Mtnmom on September 09, 2009, 01:19:30 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_local_orlandocrime/2009/09/what-other-defense-lawyers-have-to-put-up-with-the-abuse-that-casey-anthonys-jose-baez-does.html

Thanks MTNMOM. That ended like there was something else coming down the pike, didn't it?

Oh yes. And in this article it gives us the name of a company thats providing funds??

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m9d8-Casey-Anthony-case-Read-Florida-Bar-letter-clearing-Jose-Baez-in-another-ethics-investigation

"The complaint was filed by a woman named Shannon Stoy of Pennington, NJ, according to the letter. The complaint alleged that Baez was “receiving fees on the Casey Anthony case with an agreement to publicize her story.” It also accused the attorney of receiving services from a company called PMC “that could be considered non-client party compensation.”

"WDBO reports that Baez provided the Bar with a statement indicating his agreement with Casey has no clause that allows him to obtain financial gains from her story. He added that services received from PMC were “provided gratuitously.”


Whos PMC ? Any smart monkey know?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Mtnmom on September 09, 2009, 01:34:04 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_local_orlandocrime/2009/09/what-other-defense-lawyers-have-to-put-up-with-the-abuse-that-casey-anthonys-jose-baez-does.html

Thanks MTNMOM. That ended like there was something else coming down the pike, didn't it?

Oh yes. And in this article it gives us the name of a company thats providing funds??

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m9d8-Casey-Anthony-case-Read-Florida-Bar-letter-clearing-Jose-Baez-in-another-ethics-investigation

"The complaint was filed by a woman named Shannon Stoy of Pennington, NJ, according to the letter. The complaint alleged that Baez was “receiving fees on the Casey Anthony case with an agreement to publicize her story.” It also accused the attorney of receiving services from a company called PMC “that could be considered non-client party compensation.”

"WDBO reports that Baez provided the Bar with a statement indicating his agreement with Casey has no clause that allows him to obtain financial gains from her story. He added that services received from PMC were “provided gratuitously.”


Whos PMC ? Any smart monkey know?

i found it , its Press Corps Media


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on September 09, 2009, 01:40:47 PM
Hi Monkeys!!! Remember me. I have missed you guys so much.
Anything new? I am 2 months behind.

There's a lot new in the Anthony case, depositions by Padilla and his cohorts.  I'll let someone else tell you about it.  I just want to introduce you to the twins, Noah and Sophia.
U R baad.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 01:54:07 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_local_orlandocrime/2009/09/what-other-defense-lawyers-have-to-put-up-with-the-abuse-that-casey-anthonys-jose-baez-does.html

Thanks MTNMOM. That ended like there was something else coming down the pike, didn't it?

Oh yes. And in this article it gives us the name of a company thats providing funds??

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m9d8-Casey-Anthony-case-Read-Florida-Bar-letter-clearing-Jose-Baez-in-another-ethics-investigation

"The complaint was filed by a woman named Shannon Stoy of Pennington, NJ, according to the letter. The complaint alleged that Baez was “receiving fees on the Casey Anthony case with an agreement to publicize her story.” It also accused the attorney of receiving services from a company called PMC “that could be considered non-client party compensation.”

"WDBO reports that Baez provided the Bar with a statement indicating his agreement with Casey has no clause that allows him to obtain financial gains from her story. He added that services received from PMC were “provided gratuitously.”


Whos PMC ? Any smart monkey know?

i found it , its Press Corps Media

It's probably some ficticious company to cover for who is really backing this charade. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 01:56:45 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_local_orlandocrime/2009/09/what-other-defense-lawyers-have-to-put-up-with-the-abuse-that-casey-anthonys-jose-baez-does.html

Thanks MTNMOM. That ended like there was something else coming down the pike, didn't it?

Oh yes. And in this article it gives us the name of a company thats providing funds??

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m9d8-Casey-Anthony-case-Read-Florida-Bar-letter-clearing-Jose-Baez-in-another-ethics-investigation

"The complaint was filed by a woman named Shannon Stoy of Pennington, NJ, according to the letter. The complaint alleged that Baez was “receiving fees on the Casey Anthony case with an agreement to publicize her story.” It also accused the attorney of receiving services from a company called PMC “that could be considered non-client party compensation.”

"WDBO reports that Baez provided the Bar with a statement indicating his agreement with Casey has no clause that allows him to obtain financial gains from her story. He added that services received from PMC were “provided gratuitously.”


Whos PMC ? Any smart monkey know?

i found it , its Press Corps Media

I found a story about Press Corps Media. Todd Black.
http://www.wftv.com/news/18623734/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 02:05:49 PM
I thought Bozo and Todd Black parted ways long time ago. I wonder who now is just handing him money for no reason, out of the goodness of the heart, and not expection anything back?  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 02:18:57 PM
Hi Monkeys!!! Remember me. I have missed you guys so much.
Anything new? I am 2 months behind.
  Hi Darla  ::MonkeyAngel::  Where too start  ::MonkeyConfused::

Good to see you Darla

Im ready for court, hopefully this judge grew a pair overnight...geez


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 09, 2009, 02:23:57 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_local_orlandocrime/2009/09/what-other-defense-lawyers-have-to-put-up-with-the-abuse-that-casey-anthonys-jose-baez-does.html
OFTLOG! Is this article meant so that we feel sorry for Bobo?  They missed the line about first hispanic lawyer to take a high profile case and get false accusations.     ::MonkeyViolin::    ::MonkeyViolin::      Sorry, no sympathy train ride from me, but I did hear a siren again.  Oh wait.....its the Bobo Waaaaaaaaaambulance!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 02:24:25 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_local_orlandocrime/2009/09/what-other-defense-lawyers-have-to-put-up-with-the-abuse-that-casey-anthonys-jose-baez-does.html

Thanks MTNMOM. That ended like there was something else coming down the pike, didn't it?

Oh yes. And in this article it gives us the name of a company thats providing funds??

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m9d8-Casey-Anthony-case-Read-Florida-Bar-letter-clearing-Jose-Baez-in-another-ethics-investigation

"The complaint was filed by a woman named Shannon Stoy of Pennington, NJ, according to the letter. The complaint alleged that Baez was “receiving fees on the Casey Anthony case with an agreement to publicize her story.” It also accused the attorney of receiving services from a company called PMC “that could be considered non-client party compensation.”

"WDBO reports that Baez provided the Bar with a statement indicating his agreement with Casey has no clause that allows him to obtain financial gains from her story. He added that services received from PMC were “provided gratuitously.”


Whos PMC ? Any smart monkey know?

i found it , its Press Corps Media

I found a story about Press Corps Media. Todd Black.
http://www.wftv.com/news/18623734/detail.html


What is even more interesting now is Casey's comments she made when bonded out about signing pictures & appearing on Howard Stern...curious given everything we have seen and heard thus far, ey?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 09, 2009, 02:32:47 PM
Checking in for a few, I see I'm way too early for Conway's court meeting.  Just wanted to say I watched that sorry excuse for a hearing yesterday with Judge Rodriguez.  That was completely unprofessional, as well as inexcusable, for him to mock a lawyer's speech pattern (any lawyer period).  I'd be filing a complaint if it was me, conduct unbecoming a judge or something to that effect.
I think Mr. Mitnick did an excellent job laying out his argument.  I would have added one another thing.  I would have researched (or paid an assistant to research) viewer ratings for local and major networks in the days and weeks following the initial 911 call reporting Caylee missing.  Documentation in hand, I would laid out that my client was falsely accused in front of x-number of people.  Explaining how it would be physically impossible to identify, find, and assemble those same x-number of people in the same place again for Casey Anthony to simply "apologize" and clear my client, I would ask for $1 in damages for each one of those x-number of viewers.  Not only did Casey Anthony damage my client's good name and reputation, her means of employment, her housing situation, but she also intentionally mislead x-number of people.  JMO     


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 09, 2009, 02:34:55 PM
Well, need to swing.  Sorry to post and run.  Hopefully, BBL!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 02:51:59 PM


What is even more interesting now is Casey's comments she made when bonded out about signing pictures & appearing on Howard Stern...curious given everything we have seen and heard thus far, ey?

Hi CAPP!  ::MonkeyCheer4::

After I saw that comment I have visions of Bozo having a stack of signed pics locked in a file drawer or safe just waiting for the opportune moment.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Scatty on September 09, 2009, 02:52:04 PM
If the judge today says that the A's dont have to answer the rest of the questions i will be furious. They need to be treated like anyone else who blatantly refuses to answer questions in a depo

I agree.  ::MonkeyCool::
I don't remember all the questions that George refused to answer, but the one about Casey stealing money from anyone is important, IMO, as Morgan is trying to make the point of how Casey paid for the nanny. George has already told LE she stole money from various sources.....it is not for him to decide who to tell this to and who he can withhold this same info from. Actually, because he can't plead the 5th, he should be made to answer every question asked of him. I'm not fond of Rodriguez and I have no idea what he will rule today. After yesterday, nothing will surprise me as he is backtracking on his previous decisions.

I never could stand Rodriguez. He is so pretentious and full of affectations! I despise his manner of speaking, as if he is pontificating and the rest of the world should be falling down in awe at his brilliance. He is soooo aware of the camera is really getting off on it! He also is biased IMO and not for the Hispanic victim but for the First Hispanic Lawyer To Handle A Major Case. He is so predictable--whenever he seems like he is scolding KC's side, I just know it's the set up (because he thinks he's slick) for him to rule the other way. They need to vote this clown off the bench if that's how judges get appointed in Florida. Now if he rules in Zenaida's favor .... I'll owe him a big apology! In this particular case I really wouldn't mind being wrong.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 02:53:19 PM
O/T   Don't know who is following this new story but the case where the mother hid her son in a closet (over a custody dispute) & father was accused of abuse but cleared will be on with Shep Smith/Foxnews in the next hour....horrid mother!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 02:55:42 PM
Checking in for a few, I see I'm way too early for Conway's court meeting.  Just wanted to say I watched that sorry excuse for a hearing yesterday with Judge Rodriguez.  That was completely unprofessional, as well as inexcusable, for him to mock a lawyer's speech pattern (any lawyer period).  I'd be filing a complaint if it was me, conduct unbecoming a judge or something to that effect.
I think Mr. Mitnick did an excellent job laying out his argument.  I would have added one another thing.  I would have researched (or paid an assistant to research) viewer ratings for local and major networks in the days and weeks following the initial 911 call reporting Caylee missing.  Documentation in hand, I would laid out that my client was falsely accused in front of x-number of people.  Explaining how it would be physically impossible to identify, find, and assemble those same x-number of people in the same place again for Casey Anthony to simply "apologize" and clear my client, I would ask for $1 in damages for each one of those x-number of viewers.  Not only did Casey Anthony damage my client's good name and reputation, her means of employment, her housing situation, but she also intentionally mislead x-number of people.  JMO     

That is an excellent strategy, ISPY. See you later.  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 03:00:09 PM


What is even more interesting now is Casey's comments she made when bonded out about signing pictures & appearing on Howard Stern...curious given everything we have seen and heard thus far, ey?

Hi CAPP!  ::MonkeyCheer4::

After I saw that comment I have visions of Bozo having a stack of signed pics locked in a file drawer or safe just waiting for the opportune moment.

 ::MonkeyCheer4:: back girl!   Yea, the thing is we know Casey is a narcissistic skank BUT the fact that she spoke of celebrity (ugh) and $$ she could make for her defense it isnt a far gone conclusion that others had to have put these ideas in  her head, she may be street savvy to a slight extent but she is far from brilliant.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 03:05:23 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_local_orlandocrime/2009/09/what-other-defense-lawyers-have-to-put-up-with-the-abuse-that-casey-anthonys-jose-baez-does.html
OFTLOG! Is this article meant so that we feel sorry for Bobo?  They missed the line about first hispanic lawyer to take a high profile case and get false accusations.     ::MonkeyViolin::    ::MonkeyViolin::      Sorry, no sympathy train ride from me, but I did hear a siren again.  Oh wait.....its the Bobo Waaaaaaaaaambulance!


::MonkeyLaugh::

I love that picture!

I've been mia for a while...migraines! I lost track of the chatter we had during document day. Can someone clue me in about Tracy and immunity? Was it because she was mistook for kc? I did find the video we were talking about that day. It's here...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ONVxgjfup0&feature=channel



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on September 09, 2009, 03:08:33 PM
Hi Monkeys!!! Remember me. I have missed you guys so much.
Anything new? I am 2 months behind.
  Hi Darla  ::MonkeyAngel::  Where too start  ::MonkeyConfused::

Good to see you Darla

Im ready for court, hopefully this judge grew a pair overnight...geez

Capp so nice to see you back in the cage - I have missed you when you were here.  I hope you are feeling better and all is going well.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Miki Monkey on September 09, 2009, 03:10:43 PM
If the judge today says that the A's dont have to answer the rest of the questions i will be furious. They need to be treated like anyone else who blatantly refuses to answer questions in a depo

I agree.  ::MonkeyCool::
I don't remember all the questions that George refused to answer, but the one about Casey stealing money from anyone is important, IMO, as Morgan is trying to make the point of how Casey paid for the nanny. George has already told LE she stole money from various sources.....it is not for him to decide who to tell this to and who he can withhold this same info from. Actually, because he can't plead the 5th, he should be made to answer every question asked of him. I'm not fond of Rodriguez and I have no idea what he will rule today. After yesterday, nothing will surprise me as he is backtracking on his previous decisions.

I never could stand Rodriguez. He is so pretentious and full of affectations! I despise his manner of speaking, as if he is pontificating and the rest of the world should be falling down in awe at his brilliance. He is soooo aware of the camera is really getting off on it! He also is biased IMO and not for the Hispanic victim but for the First Hispanic Lawyer To Handle A Major Case. He is so predictable--whenever he seems like he is scolding KC's side, I just know it's the set up (because he thinks he's slick) for him to rule the other way. They need to vote this clown off the bench if that's how judges get appointed in Florida. Now if he rules in Zenaida's favor .... I'll owe him a big apology! In this particular case I really wouldn't mind being wrong.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


In general I agree with you, however, the only way I see he can rule they don't have to answer questions is if he has already made his mind up about postponing the case. Some of the questions are so pertinent to the case that if he concludes the same he may abdicate responsibility of making the decision by waiting until after the trial, then it will be a moot point anyway because the questions will have been answered.

I think the judge likes the limelight more than he's letting on, I'm betting he is going to take the safest way out to protect his judicial appearance. ::MonkeyConfused::

Fanny Mae....So good to see you back with clothes on, love your fall fashion dahling.... ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 03:12:45 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_local_orlandocrime/2009/09/what-other-defense-lawyers-have-to-put-up-with-the-abuse-that-casey-anthonys-jose-baez-does.html
OFTLOG! Is this article meant so that we feel sorry for Bobo?  They missed the line about first hispanic lawyer to take a high profile case and get false accusations.     ::MonkeyViolin::    ::MonkeyViolin::      Sorry, no sympathy train ride from me, but I did hear a siren again.  Oh wait.....its the Bobo Waaaaaaaaaambulance!


::MonkeyLaugh::

I love that picture!

I've been mia for a while...migraines! I lost track of the chatter we had during document day. Can someone clue me in about Tracy and immunity? Was it because she was mistook for kc? I did find the video we were talking about that day. It's here...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ONVxgjfup0&feature=channel



I hope you are feeling better.  ::MonkeyAngel::

It was talked around here on the thread. Some think it might be because Tracy may have been wearing a wire. Some think there is more to her interview that was not released. Some think it is because she may have been e-mailing Casey, and sending money to her commisary fund. I don't know what I think.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 09, 2009, 03:13:15 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/Features/Video/Default.aspX

cfnews streaming live


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 03:14:08 PM
Thank you, MIKI. You always look dahling!!! ::MonkeyCheer2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 03:14:36 PM
Live coverage:

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19046963/index.html

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live

(coverage hasn't started yet)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 03:14:51 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/Features/Video/Default.aspX

cfnews streaming live

Thank you, SEEME.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BooMonkey on September 09, 2009, 03:15:54 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/Features/Video/Default.aspX

cfnews streaming live

Thank you SeeMe, I was just going to ask for the link! And it actually WORKS!!  ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 09, 2009, 03:17:33 PM
I swear, Judge Rodriguez will be late for his own funeral........... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 03:18:43 PM
Live coverage:

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19046963/index.html

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live

(coverage hasn't started yet)

HI CECE! Thanks!  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BooMonkey on September 09, 2009, 03:19:10 PM
My GAWD I hope those are KC's chains  we are hearing!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on September 09, 2009, 03:19:14 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/Features/Video/Default.aspX

cfnews streaming live

Thank you SeeMe, I was just going to ask for the link! And it actually WORKS!!  ::MonkeyCheer4::

 :2waver:  I have missed you Boo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 03:19:31 PM
I swear, Judge Rodriguez will be late for his own funeral........... ::MonkeyNoNo::

It sounds like they just let the cattle in.  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: flamom on September 09, 2009, 03:19:47 PM
Hi Monkey Friends! Droppin in to watch the show.. thanks for the link Seeme
 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: klaasend on September 09, 2009, 03:21:34 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/Features/Video/Default.aspX

cfnews streaming live

Thanks for the link Seeme!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 09, 2009, 03:23:20 PM
You're Welcome Monkeys!.....now if we could just get a "LIVE" judge for the Live streaming.... ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: klaasend on September 09, 2009, 03:23:23 PM
These guys are very foolish talking and not realizing they are LIVE.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 03:25:12 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_local_orlandocrime/2009/09/what-other-defense-lawyers-have-to-put-up-with-the-abuse-that-casey-anthonys-jose-baez-does.html
OFTLOG! Is this article meant so that we feel sorry for Bobo?  They missed the line about first hispanic lawyer to take a high profile case and get false accusations.     ::MonkeyViolin::    ::MonkeyViolin::      Sorry, no sympathy train ride from me, but I did hear a siren again.  Oh wait.....its the Bobo Waaaaaaaaaambulance!


::MonkeyLaugh::

I love that picture!

I've been mia for a while...migraines! I lost track of the chatter we had during document day. Can someone clue me in about Tracy and immunity? Was it because she was mistook for kc? I did find the video we were talking about that day. It's here...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ONVxgjfup0&feature=channel



I hope you are feeling better.  ::MonkeyAngel::

It was talked around here on the thread. Some think it might be because Tracy may have been wearing a wire. Some think there is more to her interview that was not released. Some think it is because she may have been e-mailing Casey, and sending money to her commisary fund. I don't know what I think.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thank you, Fanny.  ::MonkeyKiss::

Wow...I missed a lot!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 03:25:20 PM
Live coverage:

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19046963/index.html

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/subindex/our_programs/live

(coverage hasn't started yet)

HI CECE! Thanks!  ::MonkeyAngel::

 ::MonkeyAngel::  You're welcome.  Good afternoon everyone!  (I just got home from the dentist, so if I slur my words, you'll all understand?   ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 03:25:59 PM
These guys are very foolish talking and not realizing they are LIVE.  ::MonkeyEek::
::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 03:26:49 PM
Hi Monkeys!!! Remember me. I have missed you guys so much.
Anything new? I am 2 months behind.
  Hi Darla  ::MonkeyAngel::  Where too start  ::MonkeyConfused::

Good to see you Darla

Im ready for court, hopefully this judge grew a pair overnight...geez

Capp so nice to see you back in the cage - I have missed you when you were here.  I hope you are feeling better and all is going well.   ::MonkeyAngel::

 Tks so much Mission!!   Great to see you too

Ugh, this judge!   Is he hearing a case or getting ready for the red carpet, good gravy  :roll: 
Link live  http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19046963/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 09, 2009, 03:26:55 PM
These guys are very foolish talking and not realizing they are LIVE.  ::MonkeyEek::


I agree Klaas......they just went off-air ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: flamom on September 09, 2009, 03:27:00 PM
What time does it start? Lets hurry up and wait.   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Miki Monkey on September 09, 2009, 03:27:07 PM
Hmmm, did anyone else lose the link...? ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 03:28:11 PM
Thanks for the links...I almost got a ticket rushing home ....and here we sit!! ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 03:29:15 PM
Hmmm, did anyone else lose the link...? ::MonkeyNoNo::

I am watching on FOX and so far so good!! ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BooMonkey on September 09, 2009, 03:30:55 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/Features/Video/Default.aspX

cfnews streaming live

Thank you SeeMe, I was just going to ask for the link! And it actually WORKS!!  ::MonkeyCheer4::

 :2waver:  I have missed you Boo

Missed you too Missy!! I got the afternoon off, so I can play with my monkeys!!!  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 03:32:44 PM
Dom Casey is there!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 03:32:58 PM
Dominic Casey just arrived in the courtroom


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BooMonkey on September 09, 2009, 03:33:00 PM
These guys obviously don't know they are live, how embarrassing!!!  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: flamom on September 09, 2009, 03:33:39 PM
I hope these horrid people finally have to answer the danged questions


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 09, 2009, 03:33:50 PM
I just saw Dom Casey


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 03:34:14 PM
I just saw Spindy's producer friend from the Today show too. They must be there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 03:34:30 PM
ROTF - Love Mitnik's suspenders!  LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: klaasend on September 09, 2009, 03:34:55 PM
Let's see if this works:

Live video by Ustream


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 03:35:13 PM
Keith looks like he is ready for battle - Judge arrives, here we go


Judge make them answer!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 09, 2009, 03:35:38 PM
Mr. Mitnic is ready for bear !!    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BooMonkey on September 09, 2009, 03:35:55 PM
Can anyone read lips? I wanna hear what they are saying at the bench!!  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: flamom on September 09, 2009, 03:35:57 PM
anyone else lose the audio??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on September 09, 2009, 03:36:10 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/Features/Video/Default.aspX

cfnews streaming live



Thank you SeeMe, I was just going to ask for the link! And it actually WORKS!!  ::MonkeyCheer4::

 :2waver:  I have missed you Boo

Missed you too Missy!! I got the afternoon off, so I can play with my monkeys!!!  ::MonkeyGavel::

YAY I am glad you are here  ::MonkeyHeart::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 03:37:13 PM
Great job Klaas!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 03:37:45 PM
Judge has already pizzed me off... ::MonkeyMad::  Does he not even know why he is here!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 09, 2009, 03:38:55 PM
Rodriguez ....  yawn.  Rubs me the wrong way.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 03:39:11 PM
I'm already po.ed at the judge!  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BooMonkey on September 09, 2009, 03:39:14 PM
Lay it at my feet!!????  ::MonkeyMad:: OMG he thinks he's Solomon!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 03:39:31 PM
This judge is a ballless wonder!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 03:39:59 PM
Judge has already pizzed me off... ::MonkeyMad::  Does he not even know why he is here!!

Posted at the same time.

What is wrong with this judge? ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Miki Monkey on September 09, 2009, 03:40:15 PM
Lay it at my feet!!????  ::MonkeyMad:: OMG he thinks he's Solomon!!!!

Or God!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: klaasend on September 09, 2009, 03:41:17 PM
Let's see if this works:

Live video by Ustream


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 03:42:02 PM
Spindy and Georgie are getting a pass.

D. Casey is still on the table. Per Mitnick.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 03:42:04 PM
Lay it at my feet!!????  ::MonkeyMad:: OMG he thinks he's Solomon!!!!

Hi BOO..I'd like to lay him at my feet~~  so I could STOMP on him!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 03:42:32 PM
This judge is a ballless wonder!

He really wants a gag order in this one.

Mitnick says he can't reach an agreement with Kassen.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Miki Monkey on September 09, 2009, 03:43:07 PM
I hate that self satisfied ego driven attitude he presents to his court....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 09, 2009, 03:43:32 PM
Spindy and Georgie are getting a pass.

D. Casey is still on the table. Per Mitnick.

 ::MonkeySlide::  Here.Thanks Fanny. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 03:43:55 PM
Judge has already pizzed me off... ::MonkeyMad::  Does he not even know why he is here!!

Posted at the same time.

What is wrong with this judge? ::MonkeyConfused::

He has ITO-itis!!!  I can't believe the A's got another free pass!!  I know Mitnik has a reason...but DAMN!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 03:45:03 PM
A HA!   Mitnick as strategy give the Anthonys a pass, stating they can get the info by other means (put on notice Cindy)   Trust me, they have more reason to be nervous with this new decision by Morgan & Mitnick   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 09, 2009, 03:46:29 PM
I hate that self satisfied ego driven attitude he presents to his court....
Me too, he is wise and is trying to be one, two, three steps ahead of the lawyers. Oh PUKE!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BooMonkey on September 09, 2009, 03:46:46 PM
Lay it at my feet!!????  ::MonkeyMad:: OMG he thinks he's Solomon!!!!

Hi BOO..I'd like to lay him at my feet~~  so I could STOMP on him!!

Sending you a ticket to Florida so you can walk in there and tell him what we think of him!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 09, 2009, 03:47:02 PM
A HA!   Mitnick as strategy give the Anthonys a pass, stating they can get the info by other means (put on notice Cindy)   Trust me, they have more reason to be nervous with this new decision by Morgan & Mitnick   ::MonkeyWink::

Exactly ... and now their wings are pinned to the wall with what they've already said to the FBI.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BooMonkey on September 09, 2009, 03:47:57 PM
A HA!   Mitnick as strategy give the Anthonys a pass, stating they can get the info by other means (put on notice Cindy)   Trust me, they have more reason to be nervous with this new decision by Morgan & Mitnick   ::MonkeyWink::

Please explain, I've been up since 4:30 am!!! Nuttin much is gellin!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 03:48:17 PM
This judge is a ballless wonder!

He really wants a gag order in this one.

Mitnick says he can't reach an agreement with Kassen.

Kasen is a weasel & trust in the fact that Morgan & Mitnick know what they are doing - they'll get what they need one way or another


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 03:50:07 PM
A HA!   Mitnick as strategy give the Anthonys a pass, stating they can get the info by other means (put on notice Cindy)   Trust me, they have more reason to be nervous with this new decision by Morgan & Mitnick   ::MonkeyWink::

Please explain, I've been up since 4:30 am!!! Nuttin much is gellin!

They will depose others (hmm maybe Cindy's mother!) to get what they need, especially regarding Casey stealing & using Cindy's charge cards without permission


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 09, 2009, 03:50:10 PM
(http://i27.tinypic.com/2hi0bw9.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 03:51:07 PM
A HA!   Mitnick as strategy give the Anthonys a pass, stating they can get the info by other means (put on notice Cindy)   Trust me, they have more reason to be nervous with this new decision by Morgan & Mitnick   ::MonkeyWink::

capp..I am at the point where I don't trust much of anything in this mess...so I am assuming this is your opinion? ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 09, 2009, 03:51:09 PM
(http://i27.tinypic.com/2hi0bw9.jpg)
Thanks Seeme. You work fast!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Scatty on September 09, 2009, 03:51:34 PM
I hate that self satisfied ego driven attitude he presents to his court....
Me too, he is wise and is trying to be one, two, three steps ahead of the lawyers. Oh PUKE!!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  He makes me scream at the computer and scare my cats. Hey, totally unrelated, but without my glasses, that lawyer looks like Greg Kinnear


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Miki Monkey on September 09, 2009, 03:51:35 PM
This judge is a ballless wonder!

He really wants a gag order in this one.

Mitnick says he can't reach an agreement with Kassen.

Kasen is a weasel & trust in the fact that Morgan & Mitnick know what they are doing - they'll get what they need one way or another


I agree, I think they knew they weren't going to get anywhere with this Judge and decided to change their tactics, I am sure they will get what they want, I would be very nervous if I was Cindy and Georgie.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 03:51:37 PM
Go Morgan and Mitnick!  ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Puzzler on September 09, 2009, 03:51:45 PM
Good afternoon, monkeys.

Checking in to watch the show.

Huh?  The judge is sounding odd to me today...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 03:52:37 PM
I hate that self satisfied ego driven attitude he presents to his court....

me too Miki!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 03:52:58 PM
I hate that self satisfied ego driven attitude he presents to his court....
Me too, he is wise and is trying to be one, two, three steps ahead of the lawyers. Oh PUKE!!!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  He makes me scream at the computer and scare my cats. Hey, totally unrelated, but without my glasses, that lawyer looks like Greg Kinnear

 ::MonkeyLaugh::
Nick, my hubby, keeps yelling at the judge to shut up. lol.

Nora


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 03:54:17 PM
Lay it at my feet!!????  ::MonkeyMad:: OMG he thinks he's Solomon!!!!

Hi BOO..I'd like to lay him at my feet~~  so I could STOMP on him!!

Sending you a ticket to Florida so you can walk in there and tell him what we think of him!!!

Are you coming with me ::MonkeyTease:: ::MonkeyHaHa::  uuummmm contempt of court can't carry too much time!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 09, 2009, 03:55:43 PM
Dominc Casey doesn't look well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 03:57:11 PM
Dominc Casey doesn't look well.

Ono, I thought the same thing. I also thought he could show GA how to dress when he comes to court!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 03:58:08 PM
I hate that self satisfied ego driven attitude he presents to his court....

me too Miki!!

He suffers Napoleon complex -  ::MonkeyHaHa:: "lay at my feet"   Good lord man, check your ego at the door!

"legally deficient"   HA!    OMG now that is funny    Woman, get a grip before you present yourself in open court...bahaha I am rollin!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 09, 2009, 03:58:39 PM
OMG who is this yahoo female attorney??? ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: flamom on September 09, 2009, 03:58:49 PM
This judges voice annoys me.. it sounds like fake calmness and serenity..
He is rather full of himself also


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BooMonkey on September 09, 2009, 03:59:29 PM
Lay it at my feet!!????  ::MonkeyMad:: OMG he thinks he's Solomon!!!!

Hi BOO..I'd like to lay him at my feet~~  so I could STOMP on him!!

Sending you a ticket to Florida so you can walk in there and tell him what we think of him!!!

Are you coming with me ::MonkeyTease:: ::MonkeyHaHa::  uuummmm contempt of court can't carry too much time!!

You can bet your bippy that we will pool our Monkey Dollars and bring baskets of nanners to get you out quick!!!
Think Planet of the Apes!!!!  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 03:59:33 PM
Blah blah blah....he does his homework? GAG




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 03:59:53 PM
Dominc Casey doesn't look well.

Ono, I thought the same thing. I also thought he could show GA how to dress when he comes to court!!

Its been "said"   ::MonkeyWink:: that he has an alcohol abuse issue - he looks jaundice & weathered


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 03:59:54 PM
Go Morgan and Mitnick!  ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4::

I'll second that even though I haven't a clue why they gave them a pass...I am sure we will eventually find out ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 04:00:37 PM
This judges voice annoys me.. it sounds like fake calmness and serenity..
He is rather full of himself also

Yup. Nick and I are sitting here thinking it's akin to a cold computer like voice...some cold evil computer voice....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 04:01:46 PM
Lay it at my feet!!????  ::MonkeyMad:: OMG he thinks he's Solomon!!!!

Hi BOO..I'd like to lay him at my feet~~  so I could STOMP on him!!

Sending you a ticket to Florida so you can walk in there and tell him what we think of him!!!

Are you coming with me ::MonkeyTease:: ::MonkeyHaHa::  uuummmm contempt of court can't carry too much time!!

You can bet your bippy that we will pool our Monkey Dollars and bring baskets of nanners to get you out quick!!!
Think Planet of the Apes!!!!  ::MonkeyDevil2::

Ok...Let's ROLL ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 09, 2009, 04:01:55 PM
This is the female lawyer who wrote that nasty motion for protective order?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 04:01:57 PM
Dominc Casey doesn't look well.

A little green around the gills.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 09, 2009, 04:02:48 PM
This female attorney is rude.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 04:03:12 PM
Is this "legally deficient" woman orchestrating a band or presenting a legal argument to a judge.... ::MonkeyViolin::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: flamom on September 09, 2009, 04:03:44 PM
This broad is out of her league.. its a no no trading barbs with the judge  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 09, 2009, 04:03:50 PM
Dominc Casey doesn't look well.

Ono, I thought the same thing. I also thought he could show GA how to dress when he comes to court!!

No kidding ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 04:03:51 PM
OMG who is this yahoo female attorney??? ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

LOL... I'm wondering too. Who is that?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 09, 2009, 04:04:39 PM
Dominc Casey doesn't look well.

Ono, I thought the same thing. I also thought he could show GA how to dress when he comes to court!!

Its been "said"   ::MonkeyWink:: that he has an alcohol abuse issue - he looks jaundice & weathered

Do we have a rumor thread?  I am sorry, but do we want to be seen as spreading rumors?????  I am not a DC fan, but I do think this is not fair to spread this here.  JMHO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 09, 2009, 04:06:32 PM
She has not read the depo's by the looks of it.  Score one for Mitnik.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 04:06:43 PM
Lay it at my feet!!????  ::MonkeyMad:: OMG he thinks he's Solomon!!!!

Hi BOO..I'd like to lay him at my feet~~  so I could STOMP on him!!

Sending you a ticket to Florida so you can walk in there and tell him what we think of him!!!

Are you coming with me ::MonkeyTease:: ::MonkeyHaHa::  uuummmm contempt of court can't carry too much time!!

You can bet your bippy that we will pool our Monkey Dollars and bring baskets of nanners to get you out quick!!!
Think Planet of the Apes!!!!  ::MonkeyDevil2::

Ok...Let's ROLL ::MonkeyBike::

I would donate to that!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: klaasend on September 09, 2009, 04:06:45 PM
This judges voice annoys me.. it sounds like fake calmness and serenity..
He is rather full of himself also

Yup. Nick and I are sitting here thinking it's akin to a cold computer like voice...some cold evil computer voice....

This judge reminds me of HAL from 2001 Space Odyssey.  Click on the link below:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 09, 2009, 04:06:52 PM
Dominc Casey doesn't look well.

Ono, I thought the same thing. I also thought he could show GA how to dress when he comes to court!!

Its been "said"   ::MonkeyWink:: that he has an alcohol abuse issue - he looks jaundice & weathered

Do we have a rumor thread?  I am sorry, but do we want to be seen as spreading rumors?????  I am not a DC fan, but I do think this is not fair to spread this here.  JMHO.


edit to try to get out of your box.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 04:07:28 PM
Dominc Casey doesn't look well.

Ono, I thought the same thing. I also thought he could show GA how to dress when he comes to court!!

Its been "said"   ::MonkeyWink:: that he has an alcohol abuse issue - he looks jaundice & weathered

Do we have a rumor thread?  I am sorry, but do we want to be seen as spreading rumors?????  I am not a DC fan, but I do think this is not fair to spread this here.  JMHO.



It is NOT a rumor started here, its been out there  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 09, 2009, 04:08:22 PM
Dominc Casey doesn't look well.

Ono, I thought the same thing. I also thought he could show GA how to dress when he comes to court!!

Its been "said"   ::MonkeyWink:: that he has an alcohol abuse issue - he looks jaundice & weathered

Do we have a rumor thread?  I am sorry, but do we want to be seen as spreading rumors?????  I am not a DC fan, but I do think this is not fair to spread this here.  JMHO.



It is NOT a rumor started here, its been out there  

I understand that, but I think SM is above continuing it, that is all.  JMHO. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 04:08:29 PM
This judges voice annoys me.. it sounds like fake calmness and serenity..
He is rather full of himself also

Yup. Nick and I are sitting here thinking it's akin to a cold computer like voice...some cold evil computer voice....

This judge reminds me of HAL from 2001 Space Odyssey.  Click on the link below:

Hilarious!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 04:09:18 PM
This judges voice annoys me.. it sounds like fake calmness and serenity..
He is rather full of himself also

Yup. Nick and I are sitting here thinking it's akin to a cold computer like voice...some cold evil computer voice....

This judge reminds me of HAL from 2001 Space Odyssey.  Click on the link below:

That's it!  ::MonkeyLaugh::

Thanks Klaas.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 04:10:40 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20809291/detail.html

ORLANDO, Fla.--  The attorneys representing Zenaida Gonazalez have dropped their motion to compel George and Cindy Anthony to answer more questions in the defamation lawsuit against their daughter Casey.

Gonzalez's attorney, Keith Mitnik, said Wednesday that the information he needs from George and Cindy Anthony can already be found in the transcripts of FBI interviews and other evidence related to Casey's murder trial.


That's why Mitnik decided to stop pursuing the Anthonys.

That means the hearing will focus instead on the Anthony's private investigator, Dominic Casey. He failed to show up for his deposition in the civil case and Gonzalez's attorneys will ask that Dominic Casey be forced to answer questions.

(snipped)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 04:11:05 PM
GO Keith!    OOOweee he's hammering it!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 04:11:09 PM
WOOOOOOO...it's none of his business if it's frivilous! WOOOO...SHOW UP and answer questions....I've HAD IT with this....wow he's hot! Go baby go!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 09, 2009, 04:11:12 PM
Go Mitnic !!!!!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 04:11:12 PM
WOW!! Mitnick is hot!!!  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 04:11:18 PM
This judges voice annoys me.. it sounds like fake calmness and serenity..
He is rather full of himself also

Yup. Nick and I are sitting here thinking it's akin to a cold computer like voice...some cold evil computer voice....

This judge reminds me of HAL from 2001 Space Odyssey.  Click on the link below:

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: flamom on September 09, 2009, 04:11:39 PM
YOU GO KM!!!   ::MonkeyCheer4::  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BooMonkey on September 09, 2009, 04:11:45 PM
 ::MonkeyCheer2::  ::MonkeyCheer2::   You Go Man!!! Kick Ass!!!!  ::MonkeyCheer3::  ::MonkeyCheer3::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 09, 2009, 04:12:08 PM
Rodriguez makes me want to  (http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr286/olivegirl/1560666.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 09, 2009, 04:12:08 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20809291/detail.html

ORLANDO, Fla.--  The attorneys representing Zenaida Gonazalez have dropped their motion to compel George and Cindy Anthony to answer more questions in the defamation lawsuit against their daughter Casey.

Gonzalez's attorney, Keith Mitnik, said Wednesday that the information he needs from George and Cindy Anthony can already be found in the transcripts of FBI interviews and other evidence related to Casey's murder trial.


That's why Mitnik decided to stop pursuing the Anthonys.

That means the hearing will focus instead on the Anthony's private investigator, Dominic Casey. He failed to show up for his deposition in the civil case and Gonzalez's attorneys will ask that Dominic Casey be forced to answer questions.

(snipped)
Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BooMonkey on September 09, 2009, 04:12:40 PM
Mitnik!! I backed off cause I don't like him!!  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 09, 2009, 04:13:48 PM
This should be good  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 04:14:08 PM
This attorney better have a signed, witnessed document with her to back her up

This is bogus   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 09, 2009, 04:14:16 PM
Rodriguez makes me want to  (http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr286/olivegirl/1560666.gif)

 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 04:14:34 PM
That smarmy "JUDGE" just laughed at Mitnick.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: klaasend on September 09, 2009, 04:14:47 PM
Click on the below for my interpretation of this judges voice  ::MonkeyHaHa::

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/th_JUDGE.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/?action=view&current=JUDGE.flv)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 04:15:20 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/09/blog-live-in-the-casey-anthony.html

WDBO Local News      
BLOG: Live in the Casey Anthony courtroom
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ September 9, 2009 3:39 PM Permalink | Comments (0) | TrackBacks (0)

Lawyers representing Zenaida Gonzales are in court this afternoon.  They have withdrawn their request to force George and Cindy Anthony to answer questions in the case and will focues on their quest to make private investigator Dominic Casey give a deposition.

3:46 - Lawyer for ZG says testimony from Dominic Casey is not "privilaged."

3:50 - ZG lawyer:  Mr Casey was hired to find Caylee.  There was no pending litigation at that time.  We would like the court to order Mr Casey to give depo.

3:54 - Diana Tennis - lawyer for Mr Casey says her client has no independent information relating to ZG.  "I have never been given any idea what they want to talk to Mr Casey about."

3:59 Tennis: This was a family coming together, hiring investigators, hiring lawyers, to deal with a tragedy.  There is nothing that Mr Casey knows that doesn't have to do with that.  And that is privileged information.

4:03 Keith Mitnik, lawyer for ZG: Mr Casey worked for George and Cindy not Casey Anthony.

Mitnik: He was working for George and Cindy to go find their grandfather, he was not involved in the criminal case.

"I'm ready for sanctions," [Against Mr Casey]


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 09, 2009, 04:15:21 PM
Judge R does sound like Hal but crossed with  Mr. Rogers.  If he says its a lovely day in the neighbourhood my head is going to spin.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 04:15:38 PM
Rodriguez makes me want to  (http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr286/olivegirl/1560666.gif)

Oh Lawd! That's hilarious!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 04:15:52 PM
WOOOOOOO...it's none of his business if it's frivilous! WOOOO...SHOW UP and answer questions....I've HAD IT with this....wow he's hot! Go baby go!

WOO HOO  He let go with both barrels!!   :smt071


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 04:16:14 PM
I can guarantee you that either today or later DC will be caught perjured.

Separately  O boy, Casey just screwed up!    And how are 3 letters of engagement with separate parties not a conflict of interest?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 04:16:21 PM
Click on the below for my interpretation of this judges voice  ::MonkeyHaHa::

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/th_JUDGE.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/?action=view&current=JUDGE.flv)

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::
Perfect!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 09, 2009, 04:16:25 PM
This should be good  ::MonkeyRoll::

 :gaah:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 04:16:44 PM
Click on the below for my interpretation of this judges voice  ::MonkeyHaHa::

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/th_JUDGE.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/?action=view&current=JUDGE.flv)

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 04:17:24 PM
Click on the below for my interpretation of this judges voice  ::MonkeyHaHa::

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/th_JUDGE.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/?action=view&current=JUDGE.flv)

That's a keeper! lol.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 04:17:51 PM
Click on the below for my interpretation of this judges voice  ::MonkeyHaHa::

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/th_JUDGE.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/?action=view&current=JUDGE.flv)


 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 04:18:45 PM
Hold on to your hats, Keith is about to take Dominic Casey to church!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 04:18:49 PM
That smarmy "JUDGE" just laughed at Mitnick.  ::MonkeyMad::

The Judge demands respect in his courtroom, but he sure doesn't seem to show it to Mitnick!   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 09, 2009, 04:18:53 PM
Klaas....     ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 09, 2009, 04:19:37 PM
Bobo hired DC, but I thought that Bobo has never paid DC?  How can he be working if he is not paid?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 04:19:38 PM
A PI that doesn't search?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BooMonkey on September 09, 2009, 04:21:04 PM
Dominic sounds zoned!!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 09, 2009, 04:21:24 PM
OMG.  This is getting hot.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 04:22:31 PM
A PI that doesn't search?

Yeah!  Well, what in the heck was he doing out in the marsh??  Sure looked like searching to me!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 09, 2009, 04:22:42 PM
DC was engaged with Bobo from July 27 to Oct 1 , 2008.  So when he was in the woods, who was he working for?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 04:22:49 PM
Hey ...she didn't stand up when she objected....SMACK!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 04:22:57 PM
Bobo hired DC, but I thought that Bobo has never paid DC?  How can he be working if he is not paid?

That is correct.   He was released from Baez & it has nothing to do with what he did for the Anthonys, including going to the woods to dig & probe for Caylee's body.

Its not work product to ask why he was let go


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 04:23:20 PM
The Judge is not allowing Mitnick to get answers to his questions from D. Casey.  Why is that?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Scatty on September 09, 2009, 04:23:24 PM
This judges voice annoys me.. it sounds like fake calmness and serenity..
He is rather full of himself also

Yup. Nick and I are sitting here thinking it's akin to a cold computer like voice...some cold evil computer voice....

This judge reminds me of HAL from 2001 Space Odyssey.  Click on the link below:

O! M! G!  ::MonkeyShocked:: You are right!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: flamom on September 09, 2009, 04:23:34 PM
This is so freakin awesome..... finally someone with balls asking questions


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: klaasend on September 09, 2009, 04:23:35 PM


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 04:23:48 PM
A PI that doesn't search?

Yeah!  Well, what in the heck was he doing out in the marsh??  Sure looked like searching to me!!

Exactly!

He said he's not TES. I should say so...they don't PROD the ground with metal poles and destroy the scene they're searching.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 09, 2009, 04:24:04 PM
A PI that doesn't search?
Cindy took up too much of his time for any searching to be done  ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 04:24:22 PM
DC was engaged with Bobo from July 27 to Oct 1 , 2008.  So when he was in the woods, who was he working for?

I thought he said he was working for Cindy & George starting in November. I wonder if he is going to say he was working for Skanky?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 04:25:35 PM
The Judge is not allowing Mitnick to get answers to his questions from D. Casey.  Why is that?

cause he is the stinking rear orifice of a donkey!! ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 04:26:15 PM
The "JUDGE" was pounding his fist at the sidebar when they were stepping away.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 04:26:27 PM
Thanks Klaas...the player I was using kept cutting out on me. This works much better.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 09, 2009, 04:26:52 PM
A PI that doesn't search?
Cindy took up too much of his time for any searching to be done  ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 09, 2009, 04:27:23 PM
The "JUDGE" was pounding his fist at the sidebar when they were stepping away.  ::MonkeyEek::

Yup I noticed that as well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 04:28:10 PM
OOOooooooo   he says he was working for all parties when he went to the woods - o boy


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 04:28:12 PM
The "JUDGE" was pounding his fist at the sidebar when they were stepping away.  ::MonkeyEek::

Yup I noticed that as well.

I missed it.

WTH?  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 04:29:22 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 04:30:12 PM
The Judge is not allowing Mitnick to get answers to his questions from D. Casey.  Why is that?

cause he is the stinking rear orifice of a donkey!! ::MonkeyMad::

 ::MonkeyDevil::  Well said!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Scatty on September 09, 2009, 04:30:59 PM
DC was engaged with Bobo from July 27 to Oct 1 , 2008.  So when he was in the woods, who was he working for?

I thought he said he was working for Cindy & George starting in November. I wonder if he is going to say he was working for Skanky?

Bingo! And Baez as well! BTW, why doesn't it surprise me that this despicable moron sustains every objection by DC's attorney. And how dare he be so damn condescending with Mitnick.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 04:31:05 PM
UGH....he's so unreasonable to Keith. Won't even hear him why that's relevant!!!!  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 09, 2009, 04:31:21 PM
Ooooooh ......  Rodriguez is on an ego power trip from hell.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 04:31:21 PM
That pic of her must have been on a better day.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 04:31:33 PM
Oops.  sorry that pic is so large.   ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 04:32:00 PM
WTF bias does this judge have!   His conduct on the bench is totally out of line    


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 04:32:18 PM
Ooooooh ......  Rodriguez is on an ego power trip from hell.

I'm beginning to really, really, really not like him.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 04:33:01 PM
DC was engaged with Bobo from July 27 to Oct 1 , 2008.  So when he was in the woods, who was he working for?

I thought he said he was working for Cindy & George starting in November. I wonder if he is going to say he was working for Skanky?

Bingo! And Baez as well! BTW, why doesn't it surprise me that this despicable moron sustains every objection by DC's attorney. And how dare he be so damn condescending with Mitnick.

And the Judge cues her when he thinks she should object!   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 09, 2009, 04:33:09 PM
That pic of her must have been on a better day.  ::MonkeyTongue::

She was on Nancy Grace representing the mother of Hayleigh Cummings awhile back.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 04:33:45 PM
DC was engaged with Bobo from July 27 to Oct 1 , 2008.  So when he was in the woods, who was he working for?

I thought he said he was working for Cindy & George starting in November. I wonder if he is going to say he was working for Skanky?

Bingo! And Baez as well! BTW, why doesn't it surprise me that this despicable moron sustains every objection by DC's attorney. And how dare he be so damn condescending with Mitnick.

I have never in all my years!
And the Judge cues her when he thinks she should object!   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: zoeandme on September 09, 2009, 04:33:58 PM
Oops.  sorry that pic is so large.   ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

LOL---It scared the chit out of me!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 09, 2009, 04:34:08 PM
Ooooooh ......  Rodriguez is on an ego power trip from hell.

I'm beginning to really, really, really not like him.  ::MonkeyMad::
It's obvious the judge thinks this lawsuit is bs.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 04:34:26 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: flamom on September 09, 2009, 04:34:51 PM
She had a skirt wedgie when she stood up.. she needs to pull it out and relax
 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 04:35:11 PM
Oops.  sorry that pic is so large.   ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyConfused::

LOL---It scared the chit out of me!
::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 09, 2009, 04:35:46 PM
She had a skirt wedgie when she stood up.. she needs to pull it out and relax
 ::MonkeyJnBox::
  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 04:35:46 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/09/blog-live-in-the-casey-anthony.html

4:11 - Dominic Casey called to the stand.

Casey:

July 2008 began relationship with Anthony family.

I had 3 separate agreements with George and Cindy Anthony, Jose Baez, and Casey Anthony all to look for Caylee Anthony.

4:28 - Casey: There is a confidentially agreement that began in July 2008 and is still in effect today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 04:36:51 PM
Ooooooh ......  Rodriguez is on an ego power trip from hell.

I'm beginning to really, really, really not like him.  ::MonkeyMad::

I'll schoochie over and you can share my branch ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 09, 2009, 04:37:32 PM
Ooooooh ......  Rodriguez is on an ego power trip from hell.

I'm beginning to really, really, really not like him.  ::MonkeyMad::
It's obvious the judge thinks this lawsuit is bs.

Yup, and he loves his tv time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 04:38:34 PM
Ooooooh ......  Rodriguez is on an ego power trip from hell.

I'm beginning to really, really, really not like him.  ::MonkeyMad::
It's obvious the judge thinks this lawsuit is bs.

But it isnt total BS, I would say exaggerated but not frivolous - this woman did suffer job loss & scrutiny due to Casey's fake story & the fact that this case became so widely publicized on a daily basis

The sustaining is a broad scope based on "work product" and Mitnick has to get around that - but why hasnt these "contracts" and "proof of payment" been shown to the court...this is what has me mystified and miffed!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 04:39:54 PM
Poor Keith... he's gonna need a nice long soak in a hot tub tonight.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 04:40:31 PM
I wonder if the younger man with KM is John's son...Jim Morgan?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Scatty on September 09, 2009, 04:40:46 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/09/blog-live-in-the-casey-anthony.html

4:11 - Dominic Casey called to the stand.

Casey:

July 2008 began relationship with Anthony family.

I had 3 separate agreements with George and Cindy Anthony, Jose Baez, and Casey Anthony all to look for Caylee Anthony.

4:28 - Casey: There is a confidentially agreement that began in July 2008 and is still in effect today.

Doesn't some of what he's saying now about contracts, fly in the face of his interview with LE?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 04:40:49 PM
I want a legal clarification from this pompous judge on the difference between a contract of employment and a letter of engagement, I'm curious what he would say on the record  ::MonkeyNoNo::  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 09, 2009, 04:41:13 PM
The psychic could have just bit DC in the arse!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 04:41:21 PM
Oh the psychic isn't in a contract...spill it Dom!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 04:42:19 PM
OH FOR CRYING OUT LOUD....THIS JUDGE IS SUCH A HUMONGOUS BUTTHEAD!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 04:44:13 PM
Now...isn't it strange...after bringing up the phsychic we have to go to recess!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 09, 2009, 04:44:22 PM
Motion to compell denied without prejudice.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 04:44:52 PM
OMG!   No way!    Without even presenting the contract or proof of payment or anything?     BOGUS   TOTAL BS


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 04:45:41 PM
 :smt014 :gaah: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: zoeandme on September 09, 2009, 04:45:44 PM
OH FOR CRYING OUT LOUD....THIS JUDGE IS SUCH A HUMONGOUS BUTTHEAD!

Indeed he is!  He says, "its now quarter till 5!", to Mitnick, like Mitnick's totally wasting the court's time with his questioning DCasey.  What an attitude, and it all spels out that the judge thinks this civil matter is BS. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 04:46:27 PM
Decision on yesterdays motion to dismiss will come much sooner than anticipated!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 09, 2009, 04:46:29 PM
This judge is nuts.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Scatty on September 09, 2009, 04:46:38 PM
 ::MonkeyMad::   :smt097  :smt067 :smt068 :smt071 :smt072 :smt076 :smt075 :smt021 :smt019 :smt013 :2brickwall:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on September 09, 2009, 04:46:43 PM
 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

This Judge is not qualified to handle this case - I am not sure he is even qualified to handle traffic tickets or foreclosures - he is inept.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 04:46:49 PM
WOW!    This judge is about to throw this case out


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: monkalicious on September 09, 2009, 04:47:13 PM
I am disgusted and furious with Judge Rodgriguez.  AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHH!!!! ::MonkeyMad::
I could not believe that he was sustaining her objections almost before she could open her mouth.  Work Privilege, my ever increasing behind!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 09, 2009, 04:47:31 PM
OH FOR CRYING OUT LOUD....THIS JUDGE IS SUCH A HUMONGOUS BUTTHEAD!

Indeed he is!  He says, "its now quarter till 5!", to Mitnick, like Mitnick's totally wasting the court's time with his questioning DCasey.  What an attitude, and it all spels out that the judge thinks this civil matter is BS. 
He has done everything but come right out and say, this is all BS.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 04:47:32 PM
OH FOR CRYING OUT LOUD....THIS JUDGE IS SUCH A HUMONGOUS BUTTHEAD!


DITTO!!!!!!!!!! IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 09, 2009, 04:47:39 PM
Ooooooh ......  Rodriguez is on an ego power trip from hell.

I'm beginning to really, really, really not like him.  ::MonkeyMad::
It's obvious the judge thinks this lawsuit is bs.

I agree.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: numbersgirl on September 09, 2009, 04:47:39 PM
This judge is a tool!   ::MonkeyMad::    He is going to dismiss the whole shebang.  I hope Mitnik can appeal this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Puzzler on September 09, 2009, 04:47:49 PM
This judge is nuts.

IMO his voice even sounds odd...like he medicated.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 04:48:06 PM
Decision on yesterdays motion to dismiss will come much sooner than anticipated!

Yep and I have no doubt what that decision is going to be!! ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 09, 2009, 04:48:42 PM
Well ZG is about to be screwed all over again by Rodriguez.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 04:49:00 PM
::MonkeyMad::   :smt097  :smt067 :smt068 :smt071 :smt072 :smt076 :smt075 :smt021 :smt019 :smt013 :2brickwall:

scatty...my sentiments exactly!  What a waste of time.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 09, 2009, 04:49:31 PM
WOW!    This judge is about to throw this case out

Yep.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 09, 2009, 04:49:35 PM
Decision on yesterdays motion to dismiss will come much sooner than anticipated!

Yup, the judge said it in such a way that IMO he does not like the questions that Mitnik is asking and feels that Mitnik is going beyond the civil case.  I truly believe Judge R is going to suspend the ZG case till after the criminal case now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: flamom on September 09, 2009, 04:49:47 PM
My gut tells me this judge does not want to jeopardize the criminal trial with the DP at play.. I still dont like him or his faux ruling


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 04:51:05 PM
The "JUDGE" is chewing on Mitnick. Where's SUNNY?????  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 09, 2009, 04:51:08 PM
So disappointing ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 04:51:14 PM
Well ZG is about to be screwed all over again by Rodriguez.  ::MonkeyMad::

Absolutely!  I wonder if he is prepared to pay her bills and get her children counseling!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: numbersgirl on September 09, 2009, 04:51:43 PM
I amwatching on Fox 35 and it looks like Spindy and her bald Today Show escort are in the first row.  Does anyone else see that?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 09, 2009, 04:51:54 PM
Justice delayed is justice denied for Zenaida


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 04:52:34 PM
My gut tells me this judge does not want to jeopardize the criminal trial with the DP at play.. I still dont like him or his faux ruling

It seems he already had his mind mad up before Mitnick could even ask a question.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 09, 2009, 04:53:05 PM
I amwatching on Fox 35 and it looks like Spindy and her bald Today Show escort are in the first row.  Does anyone else see that?

Yup. Bald dude is there talking to what looks like a mushroom head IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 04:53:57 PM
I amwatching on Fox 35 and it looks like Spindy and her bald Today Show escort are in the first row.  Does anyone else see that?
::MonkeyShocked:: I didn't!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 04:54:01 PM
My gut tells me this judge does not want to jeopardize the criminal trial with the DP at play.. I still dont like him or his faux ruling

While I would agree that nothing should jeopardize the criminal trial, this judge didnt have to pull antics & bs from the sky in order to do it.   He could have stayed the case or put a gag order on it without these bogus decisions.   He in essence denied Zeneida WITH PREJUDICE  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: numbersgirl on September 09, 2009, 04:54:02 PM
I am so pizzed now!  Why does everyone who's not an Anthony keep getting screwed over?   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 09, 2009, 04:54:32 PM
My gut tells me this judge does not want to jeopardize the criminal trial with the DP at play.. I still dont like him or his faux ruling

I used to think that .... I have my doubts about Rodriguez now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 09, 2009, 04:55:12 PM
My gut tells me this judge does not want to jeopardize the criminal trial with the DP at play.. I still dont like him or his faux ruling

It seems he already had his mind mad up before Mitnick could even ask a question.   ::MonkeyMad::

I think so too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 04:55:18 PM
The "JUDGE" is chewing on Mitnick. Where's SUNNY?????  ::MonkeyMad::

I am here MADE AS A WET HEN!  I intend to write him a letter and tell him exactly what I think of him, his rulings, his frigging condescending attitude, making fun of KM's accent and his obvious bias!   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: numbersgirl on September 09, 2009, 04:55:34 PM
I'll see you all later.........I need a drink.   ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Jesse on September 09, 2009, 04:56:06 PM
my comp has been down....is the hearing still going on and where? so do they have to answer the questions by morgan


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 09, 2009, 04:56:34 PM
My gut tells me this judge does not want to jeopardize the criminal trial with the DP at play.. I still dont like him or his faux ruling

It seems he already had his mind mad up before Mitnick could even ask a question.   ::MonkeyMad::

I think so too.

Maybe he did not get his daily exercise earlier today jumping to conclusions so he had to fit some in?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 04:56:49 PM
I amwatching on Fox 35 and it looks like Spindy and her bald Today Show escort are in the first row.  Does anyone else see that?

Yes and they were laughing at the end.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 04:57:05 PM
I amwatching on Fox 35 and it looks like Spindy and her bald Today Show escort are in the first row.  Does anyone else see that?

I clicked off before I spit at my computer screen!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: numbersgirl on September 09, 2009, 04:57:05 PM
I sure hope Attorney Mitnik follows through with the sanctions he spoke of earlier.  I hate them all!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: monkalicious on September 09, 2009, 04:57:07 PM
I'll see you all later.........I need a drink.   ::MonkeyWaa::
Pour one for me. We need a monkey emoticon with a large glass of red wine.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 09, 2009, 04:57:08 PM
The "JUDGE" is chewing on Mitnick. Where's SUNNY?????  ::MonkeyMad::

I am here MADE AS A WET HEN!  I intend to write him a letter and tell him exactly what I think of him, his rulings, his frigging condescending attitude, making fun of KM's accent and his obvious bias!   ::MonkeyMad::

I would like to see that!     ::MonkeyDance:: Please tell us if he responds.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 04:57:16 PM
One thing to keep in mind though, in the case that absolutely matters ALL of these scumbuckets will get theirs & the prosecution will see to it.  DC won this round but he has far from escaped his stupidity...same will be true of George, Cindy, Lee & Bozo

Justice will prevail for Caylee
::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 09, 2009, 04:57:21 PM
WOW!    This judge is about to throw this case out

I have to agree Capp..this judge is not going to hear this case ever.  He doesn't want the case and is very against having to try this case before Casey's DP trial.  So when push comes to shove..he's gonna toss it. 

I really dislike this judge and find him creepy.  Meaning, I can't stand his soft voice...for some reason it reminds me of Lon Chaney  (for those old enough to remember him).  It sounds like the voice a serial sexual killer would have..just makes the hair at the back of my neck stand on end..like if I was in close proximity to him and he started with that whisperer voice ..I would be slowly backing away and then running like hell!

Of course this is just my humble opinion.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: flamom on September 09, 2009, 04:57:46 PM
My gut tells me this judge does not want to jeopardize the criminal trial with the DP at play.. I still dont like him or his faux ruling

I used to think that .... I have my doubts about Rodriguez now.

Dont get me wrong, I think the judge is taking the easy way out, and Capp, I must have misheard the judge.. I thought he was dismissing it without predjudice.. or was that the questioning of DC?? These mo mo's have me all confused  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 04:58:28 PM
Justice delayed is justice denied for Zenaida


That's the darn truth!  Can I use that in my letter to this poor excuse for a judge!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 04:59:03 PM
My gut tells me this judge does not want to jeopardize the criminal trial with the DP at play.. I still dont like him or his faux ruling

It seems he already had his mind mad up before Mitnick could even ask a question.   ::MonkeyMad::

Sure did!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 04:59:34 PM
I amwatching on Fox 35 and it looks like Spindy and her bald Today Show escort are in the first row.  Does anyone else see that?

Yes and they were laughing at the end.  ::MonkeyMad::

 ::MonkeyMad::
Oh that makes me so mad!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 04:59:56 PM
I was watching Fox 35, and it cut off while they were up at the bar. Did any other video show it to the end. It looked like it was getting hot between Mitnick and Rodriguez.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 05:00:18 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-update-090909,0,165700.story

Casey Anthony civil case: PI Dominic Casey testifies but George, Cindy Anthony don't have to answer questions

 Lawyers representing a Central Florida woman in the defamation suit against Casey Anthony withdrew their request to force George Anthony and Cindy Anthony to answer questions they originally refused to address during a deposition.

Lawyer Keith Mitnik told Orange County Circuit Court Judge Jose Rodriguez he could obtain the information he needed from other resources, such as FBI interviews.

Mitnik also withdrew his request to ask the judge to force Casey Anthony to answers questions that had been submitted to her. He said he doesn't want that issue to keep the case from moving forward.

"Moving forward is too important," he said.

Mitnik represents Zenaida Gonzalez, a Kissimmee mother of six who claims her reputation was damaged by Anthony.

Gonzalez claims her reputation was hurt when Casey Anthony claimed a nanny by the name of Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez took her daughter.

Criminal investigators have said that there was never a nanny named Zenaida.

Gonzalez was not in court today. Also absent were George Anthony and Cindy Anthony.

Casey Anthony, 23, is accused of killing her daughter, 2-year-old Caylee Marie, last year.

Since that initial discussion, the focus of today's hearing has been on private investigator Dominic Casey, who did not show up for an earlier deposition.

For more than half an hour this afternoon, Dominic Casey took the stand and answered questions from his lawyer, Diana Tennis, and then from Mitnik.

Casey said he considered his work for a joint family defense team comprised of George Anthony, Cindy Anthony, Casey Anthony and her defense lawyer Jose Baez, he said.

Dominic Casey was hired by the Baez Law Firm July 27. Mitnik asked if he was being paid by Baez. Dominic Casey said he doesn't think that question is "appropriate."

"I was to investigate the circumstance surrounding the disappearance of Caylee Marie Anthony," Dominic Casey said.

Dominic Casey initially told the Morgan and Morgan law firm that he was working for George and Cindy Anthony. His work should be considered as privileged.

Dominic Casey's attorney, Diana Tennis, argued that Dominic Casey was working the family, including Casey Anthony, and their attorneys -- not just Cindy and George Anthony.

"This was all a family coming together and getting lawyers on board and getting an investigator involved to deal with this tragedy," she said.

She said the attorneys really don't need depose Dominic Casey.

Mitnik said there are procedures to be followed. He wants witnesses like Dominic Casey to be told to show up for a deposition.

"Did you have any conversation with a psychic about the whereabouts of the body?" Mitnik asked.

Tennis objected and Rodriguez sustained.

"Did you speak to any third party who were not part of the group of privilege people?" Mitnik asked Casey.

"Yes," the private investigator said.

Earlier in court today, lawyer John Dill argued that Casey should show up for a deposition. If there are issues about the questions, that should be brought up during the sworn questioning. He can object to certain questions and that issue can be brought before the judge.

At one point, Gonzalez -- the one suing Casey Anthony -- was questioned and cleared. She is suing Casey Anthony for more than $15,000.

Caylee's remains were found in December in woods less than a mile from her family home in east Orange County. The state is seeking the death penalty.

A criminal trial is expected to begin next summer.

Check back for updates.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 09, 2009, 05:00:21 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20809291/detail.html

Gonzalez Drops Motion To Force Anthony Testimony

ORLANDO, Fla.--  The attorneys representing Zenaida Gonazalez have dropped their motion to compel George and Cindy Anthony to answer more questions in the defamation lawsuit against their daughter Casey.

Gonzalez's attorney, Keith Mitnik, said Wednesday that the information he needs from George and Cindy Anthony can already be found in the transcripts of FBI interviews and other evidence related to Casey's murder trial.

That's why Mitnik decided to stop pursuing the Anthonys.

That means the hearing will focus instead on the Anthony's private investigator, Dominic Casey. He failed to show up for his deposition in the civil case and Gonzalez's attorneys will ask that Dominic Casey be forced to answer questions.

Dominic Casey was called to the stand and is being questioned by an attorney for Gonzalez.

Zenaida Gonzalez is the woman who claims Anthony ruined her reputation by saying someone by the same name abducted Caylee.

George and Cindy Anthony became angry when they were questioned about Gonzalez at a deposition in April.

Attorneys for Gonzalez said Casey Anthony has never said publicly that their client didn't take Caylee, so they must look deeper to restore Gonzalez' good name.

"She is the only Zenaida Gonzalez that has ever been questioned by the police, the only Zenaida Gonzalez that ever lost her job, the only Zenaida Gonzalez that ever was kicked out of her place," Attorney John Morgan said.

Casey Anthony's attorneys were in court on Tuesday hoping to get the civil lawsuit delayed or dismissed. The judge hasn't ruled on the motion yet.

Wednesday's afternoon hearing is slated at the Orange County Courthouse.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on September 09, 2009, 05:00:21 PM
I'll see you all later.........I need a drink.   ::MonkeyWaa::

Can I come too?  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 09, 2009, 05:00:48 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20809291/detail.html
ORLANDO, Fla.--  The attorneys representing Zenaida Gonazalez have dropped their motion to compel George and Cindy Anthony to answer more questions in the defamation lawsuit against their daughter Casey.

Gonzalez's attorney, Keith Mitnik, said Wednesday that the information he needs from George and Cindy Anthony can already be found in the transcripts of FBI interviews and other evidence related to Casey's murder trial.

That's why Mitnik decided to stop pursuing the Anthonys.

That means the hearing will focus instead on the Anthony's private investigator, Dominic Casey. He failed to show up for his deposition in the civil case and Gonzalez's attorneys will ask that Dominic Casey be forced to answer questions.

Dominic Casey was called to the stand and is being questioned by an attorney for Gonzalez.

Zenaida Gonzalez is the woman who claims Anthony ruined her reputation
by saying someone by the same name abducted Caylee.

George and Cindy Anthony became angry when they were questioned about Gonzalez at a deposition in April.

Attorneys for Gonzalez said Casey Anthony has never said publicly that their client didn't take Caylee, so they must look deeper to restore Gonzalez' good name.

"She is the only Zenaida Gonzalez that has ever been questioned by the police, the only Zenaida Gonzalez that ever lost her job, the only Zenaida Gonzalez that ever was kicked out of her place," Attorney John Morgan said.

Casey Anthony's attorneys were in court on Tuesday hoping to get the civil lawsuit delayed or dismissed. The judge hasn't ruled on the motion yet.

Wednesday's afternoon hearing is slated at the Orange County Courthouse.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 09, 2009, 05:00:51 PM
I'll see you all later.........I need a drink.   ::MonkeyWaa::
Pour one for me. We need a monkey emoticon with a large glass of red wine.

A monkey with a bottle of tequila and a lemon to throw would be my choice.  DC was arrogant, his lawyer had to be reminded to "be nice" and the judge makes decisions before he has heard the actual objection. WTH!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 05:01:41 PM
My gut tells me this judge does not want to jeopardize the criminal trial with the DP at play.. I still dont like him or his faux ruling

I used to think that .... I have my doubts about Rodriguez now.

Dont get me wrong, I think the judge is taking the easy way out, and Capp, I must have misheard the judge.. I thought he was dismissing it without predjudice.. or was that the questioning of DC?? These mo mo's have me all confused  ::MonkeyConfused::

The judge is referring to DC - but his warning to Mitnick that his decision regarding a stay or dismissal of the case coming sooner than he thought led me to believe he will throw the case out or stay it until after the murder trial BUT I totally disagree with how he insulted Keith Mitnic as well as made rulings that were NOT based on proof but rather opinion & not necessarily to the letter of the law


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 09, 2009, 05:01:52 PM
Justice delayed is justice denied for Zenaida


That's the darn truth!  Can I use that in my letter to this poor excuse for a judge!!

Yes you can....I'm putting it in my letter as well!! ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 09, 2009, 05:02:24 PM
I was watching Fox 35, and it cut off while they were up at the bar. Did any other video show it to the end. It looked like it was getting hot between Mitnick and Rodriguez.   ::MonkeyMad::

I saw the judge pointing his finger at Mitnik, then pointing his finger as female lawyer and Mitnik did not look happy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 09, 2009, 05:02:26 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20813959/detail.html
Zenaida Lawyers Withdraw Request
Casey Anthony Accused Of Defaming Woman Named Zenaida Gonzalez

POSTED: Wednesday, September 9, 2009
UPDATED: 4:54 pm EDT September 9, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- At a court hearing Wednesday afternoon in Casey Anthony's civil case, attorneys representing Zenaida Gonzalez withdrew their request to get Anthony's parents to answer questions.

Anthony, 23, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were discovered in December. Anthony, who has pleaded not guilty, told investigators that she left Caylee with a baby sitter named Zenaida Gonzalez, but they were gone when she returned to pick up her daughter.

A woman with the same name as the baby sitter, whom investigators have said does not exist, has filed a defamation lawsuit against Anthony, seeking $15,000 in damages because of the link to the case.

Anthony's parents, George and Cindy Anthony, refused to respond to several questions when deposed by Gonzalez's attorneys, who want a judge to force the Anthonys to answer the questions.

Gonzalez's attorneys said they can get information they were seeking from the Anthonys from other sources, such as police reports.
Gonzalez's attorneys have also withdrawn a written questionnaire to Casey Anthony, hoping the move will prevent the judge from delaying the civil case. The judge said at a hearing on Tuesday that it may be a month before he decides whether to postpone the civil case until the completion of Casey Anthony's murder trial, which is scheduled to begin next year.

Wednesday's hearing was dealing with whether private investigator Dominic Casey will have to give a deposition. Casey is fighting the issue, claiming that he was working on behalf of Casey Anthony and that his comments are protected by attorney-client privilege.

If a deposition is ordered, the judge may require it to be temporarily sealed so he can review any statements that may be privileged.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 05:02:37 PM
WOW!    This judge is about to throw this case out

I have to agree Capp..this judge is not going to hear this case ever.  He doesn't want the case and is very against having to try this case before Casey's DP trial.  So when push comes to shove..he's gonna toss it. 

I really dislike this judge and find him creepy.  Meaning, I can't stand his soft voice...for some reason it reminds me of Lon Chaney  (for those old enough to remember him).  It sounds like the voice a serial sexual killer would have..just makes the hair at the back of my neck stand on end..like if I was in close proximity to him and he started with that whisperer voice ..I would be slowly backing away and then running like hell!

Of course this is just my humble opinion.

He is creepy!!!

Strickland said the check fraud trial can go through before the criminal case. Someone please tell me Strickland will be the one to hear it.   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 05:03:03 PM
One thing to keep in mind though, in the case that absolutely matters ALL of these scumbuckets will get theirs & the prosecution will see to it.  DC won this round but he has far from escaped his stupidity...same will be true of George, Cindy, Lee & Bozo

Justice will prevail for Caylee
::MonkeyJustice::

 ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice::




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: numbersgirl on September 09, 2009, 05:04:02 PM
I'll see you all later.........I need a drink.   ::MonkeyWaa::

Can I come too?  ::MonkeyMad::

Where's Trimm?  If she gets the cart and picks you all up, the first round of drinks is on me.   ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 05:04:39 PM
I'll see you all later.........I need a drink.   ::MonkeyWaa::
Pour one for me. We need a monkey emoticon with a large glass of red wine.

A monkey with a bottle of tequila and a lemon to throw would be my choice.  DC was arrogant, his lawyer had to be reminded to "be nice" and the judge makes decisions before he has heard the actual objection. WTH!

Seem like both George and Rodriguez would get along together. Neither of them have any class along with no ballz.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 09, 2009, 05:04:52 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/9/9/will_anthonys_be_forced_to_answer_more_questions.html
 Defamation Hearing Concludes
Wednesday, September 09, 2009 4:57:22 PM
ORLANDO -- The hearing today in the defamation case against Casey Anthony has concluded.

Zenaida Gonzalez says that her reputation was damaged as a result of Casey's story that a nanny with her name took Caylee Anthony.
   
On Wednesday, Gonzalez's lawyers asked that both George and Cindy Anthony answer more questions under oath.
   
Both were questioned in April for hours by Gonzalez’s attorneys.
   
Meantime, an Circuit Judge postponed a decision on whether to throw out the defamation lawsuit filed by Gonzalez.
   
The judge also delayed deciding whether to postpone the defamation lawsuit until after Casey's criminal trial on a first-degree murder charge.

Today's hearing began at 3:15 p.m. and concluded just before 5 p.m.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: flamom on September 09, 2009, 05:05:33 PM
Agreed Capp! and thanks for clearing that up.. I think he will toss this case too


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 05:06:06 PM
I'll see you all later.........I need a drink.   ::MonkeyWaa::
Pour one for me. We need a monkey emoticon with a large glass of red wine.

A monkey with a bottle of tequila and a lemon to throw would be my choice.  DC was arrogant, his lawyer had to be reminded to "be nice" and the judge makes decisions before he has heard the actual objection. WTH!

WTH indeed.
 :smt030


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 05:06:23 PM
The "JUDGE" is chewing on Mitnick. Where's SUNNY?????  ::MonkeyMad::

I am here MADE AS A WET HEN!  I intend to write him a letter and tell him exactly what I think of him, his rulings, his frigging condescending attitude, making fun of KM's accent and his obvious bias!   ::MonkeyMad::

I would like to see that!     ::MonkeyDance:: Please tell us if he responds.

I will although I doubt he will. When my blood pressure goes down I will start composing it....any suggestions (that will not get my azz thrown in jail) will be appreciated!! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 09, 2009, 05:07:29 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-update-090909,0,165700.story
Casey Anthony civil case: PI Dominic Casey testifies but George, Cindy Anthony don't have to answer questions
A judge is hearing more arguments today in the defamation case against Casey Anthony.
Sarah Lundy and Amy L. Edwards  Sentinel Staff Writers

4:53 p.m. EDT, September 9, 2009
Lawyers representing a Central Florida woman in the defamation suit against Casey Anthony withdrew their request to force George Anthony and Cindy Anthony to answer questions they originally refused to address during a deposition.

Lawyer Keith Mitnik told Orange County Circuit Court Judge Jose Rodriguez he could obtain the information he needed from other resources, such as FBI interviews.

Mitnik also withdrew his request to ask the judge to force Casey Anthony to answers questions that had been submitted to her. He said he doesn't want that issue to keep the case from moving forward.

"Moving forward is too important," he said.
<snipped>


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 09, 2009, 05:08:13 PM
I'll see you all later.........I need a drink.   ::MonkeyWaa::
Pour one for me. We need a monkey emoticon with a large glass of red wine.

A monkey with a bottle of tequila and a lemon to throw would be my choice.  DC was arrogant, his lawyer had to be reminded to "be nice" and the judge makes decisions before he has heard the actual objection. WTH!

WTH indeed.
 :smt030


 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 05:08:33 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20809291/detail.html

Gonzalez Drops Motion To Force Anthony Testimony

ORLANDO, Fla.--  The attorneys representing Zenaida Gonazalez have dropped their motion to compel George and Cindy Anthony to answer more questions in the defamation lawsuit against their daughter Casey.

Gonzalez's attorney, Keith Mitnik, said Wednesday that the information he needs from George and Cindy Anthony can already be found in the transcripts of FBI interviews and other evidence related to Casey's murder trial.

That's why Mitnik decided to stop pursuing the Anthonys.

That means the hearing will focus instead on the Anthony's private investigator, Dominic Casey. He failed to show up for his deposition in the civil case and Gonzalez's attorneys will ask that Dominic Casey be forced to answer questions.

Dominic Casey was called to the stand and is being questioned by an attorney for Gonzalez.

Zenaida Gonzalez is the woman who claims Anthony ruined her reputation by saying someone by the same name abducted Caylee.

George and Cindy Anthony became angry when they were questioned about Gonzalez at a deposition in April.

Attorneys for Gonzalez said Casey Anthony has never said publicly that their client didn't take Caylee, so they must look deeper to restore Gonzalez' good name.

"She is the only Zenaida Gonzalez that has ever been questioned by the police, the only Zenaida Gonzalez that ever lost her job, the only Zenaida Gonzalez that ever was kicked out of her place," Attorney John Morgan said.

Casey Anthony's attorneys were in court on Tuesday hoping to get the civil lawsuit delayed or dismissed. The judge hasn't ruled on the motion yet.

Wednesday's afternoon hearing is slated at the Orange County Courthouse.

Couldn't Mitnick and Morgan use D Casey's testimony in the same way. Of course, that is, if the "JUDGE" doesn't throw out the civil case.
I think Zanieda should go after the Anthonys anyway. And what about the countersuit?? Why did nobody ever bring that up?  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 09, 2009, 05:10:09 PM
One thing to keep in mind though, in the case that absolutely matters ALL of these scumbuckets will get theirs & the prosecution will see to it.  DC won this round but he has far from escaped his stupidity...same will be true of George, Cindy, Lee & Bozo

Justice will prevail for Caylee
::MonkeyJustice::

 ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice::




I really don't see that coming with the others.  Casey will get hers, but for now no charges are pending against the others..and if that would rear it's ugly head, then their attorneys will ask for immunity just like Lee's did in the past.  The prosecutions case in Caylee's death is about Casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 05:10:24 PM
Justice delayed is justice denied for Zenaida


That's the darn truth!  Can I use that in my letter to this poor excuse for a judge!!

Yes you can....I'm putting it in my letter as well!! ::MonkeyMad::

thanks and I am glad you too are writing!  This judge NEEDS to know that people are watching...and not cause he is a pretty face.....but watching,  because we believe in justice.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Scatty on September 09, 2009, 05:10:43 PM
WOW!    This judge is about to throw this case out

I have to agree Capp..this judge is not going to hear this case ever.  He doesn't want the case and is very against having to try this case before Casey's DP trial.  So when push comes to shove..he's gonna toss it. 

I really dislike this judge and find him creepy.  Meaning, I can't stand his soft voice...for some reason it reminds me of Lon Chaney  (for those old enough to remember him).  It sounds like the voice a serial sexual killer would have..just makes the hair at the back of my neck stand on end..like if I was in close proximity to him and he started with that whisperer voice ..I would be slowly backing away and then running like hell!

Of course this is just my humble opinion.

Yeah! Like Hannibal Lechter: "Hello Clarice" or whatever it was he said. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on September 09, 2009, 05:10:45 PM
I'll see you all later.........I need a drink.   ::MonkeyWaa::

Can I come too?  ::MonkeyMad::

Where's Trimm?  If she gets the cart and picks you all up, the first round of drinks is on me.   ::MonkeyDevil2::

I will be right there.............whistling for Trimm - let's go Trimm.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: klaasend on September 09, 2009, 05:12:04 PM
NEW BLINK POST (I'm a little late posting this):

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/09/09/cayleecasey-case-dominic-casey-takes-stand-in-zenaida-gonzalez-case/

Caylee/Casey Case: Dominic Casey Takes Stand in Zenaida Gonzalez Case


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 05:12:05 PM
I'll see you all later.........I need a drink.   ::MonkeyWaa::

Can I come too?  ::MonkeyMad::

Where's Trimm?  If she gets the cart and picks you all up, the first round of drinks is on me.   ::MonkeyDevil2::

Pick me up too....and don't count on me as the designated driver ::MonkeyTease::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 05:12:12 PM

[/quote]

Couldn't Mitnick and Morgan use D Casey's testimony in the same way. Of course, that is, if the "JUDGE" doesn't throw out the civil case.
I think Zanieda should go after the Anthonys anyway. And what about the countersuit?? Why did nobody ever bring that up?  ::MonkeyMad::
[/quote]

I think she should go after spindy and george too! Especially after that comment "you're not a 10" crap spindy said!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 09, 2009, 05:12:25 PM
(http://i29.tinypic.com/aaasmc.jpg)

I'll try and get an email address, but this is all I have found.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 05:14:42 PM
(http://i29.tinypic.com/aaasmc.jpg)

I'll try and get an email address, but this is all I have found.

Where does one go to complain about a judge and put his @ss in the hotseat?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 05:17:12 PM
I bet Spindy & George will go on national news again tomorrow. My TV set is in serious jeopardy right now....

SUNNY & SEEME,  tell Rodriguez he is creepy and is uglier than ITO and not very photogenic! I'll start collecting bond money.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 05:18:41 PM
One thing to keep in mind though, in the case that absolutely matters ALL of these scumbuckets will get theirs & the prosecution will see to it.  DC won this round but he has far from escaped his stupidity...same will be true of George, Cindy, Lee & Bozo

Justice will prevail for Caylee
::MonkeyJustice::

 ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice::




I really don't see that coming with the others.  Casey will get hers, but for now no charges are pending against the others..and if that would rear it's ugly head, then their attorneys will ask for immunity just like Lee's did in the past.  The prosecutions case in Caylee's death is about Casey.


So they could even get away with things like washing stuff from the car, cleaning, etc?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: monkalicious on September 09, 2009, 05:19:02 PM
Here's what I get the most annoyed about...The idea that George and Cindy are gloating over this "victory".  They believe they are above the law, and this so-called Judge Rodriguez has reinforced this notion.  I am mightily depressed at this juncture.
Where's the justice?  Caylee has paid for the Anthony's sense of entitlement with her life, Zenaida's reputation and that all of Casey's friends, (poor things,) has been tainted.
Everyone has an agenda, including those we are supposed to trust with, (and I quote,)"hearing and addressing our grievances," are incredibly biased. I can't bear the smug looks of Cindy and company.   I'm still::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 05:20:17 PM
One thing to keep in mind though, in the case that absolutely matters ALL of these scumbuckets will get theirs & the prosecution will see to it.  DC won this round but he has far from escaped his stupidity...same will be true of George, Cindy, Lee & Bozo

Justice will prevail for Caylee
::MonkeyJustice::

 ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice::




I really don't see that coming with the others.  Casey will get hers, but for now no charges are pending against the others..and if that would rear it's ugly head, then their attorneys will ask for immunity just like Lee's did in the past.  The prosecutions case in Caylee's death is about Casey.


Gypse, I agree with you completely.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 09, 2009, 05:21:07 PM
I'll see you all later.........I need a drink.   ::MonkeyWaa::

Can I come too?  ::MonkeyMad::

Where's Trimm?  If she gets the cart and picks you all up, the first round of drinks is on me.   ::MonkeyDevil2::

Pick me up too....and don't count on me as the designated driver ::MonkeyTease::

 ::MonkeyCheer4::  Who's driving?
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/113_0505_08z2005_dodge_viperside-1.gif)






Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 05:21:46 PM
One thing to keep in mind though, in the case that absolutely matters ALL of these scumbuckets will get theirs & the prosecution will see to it.  DC won this round but he has far from escaped his stupidity...same will be true of George, Cindy, Lee & Bozo

Justice will prevail for Caylee
::MonkeyJustice::

 ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice::




I really don't see that coming with the others.  Casey will get hers, but for now no charges are pending against the others..and if that would rear it's ugly head, then their attorneys will ask for immunity just like Lee's did in the past.  The prosecutions case in Caylee's death is about Casey.


Gypsy, what they will face is prejuring themselves - yes, there are no charges pending on them BUT they are not immuned to ever being charged with something including perjury at trial which is inevitable.   Their attorneys (both Conway & Luka)  did ask for full immunity & none of them have received it


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 05:27:05 PM
Here's what I get the most annoyed about...The idea that George and Cindy are gloating over this "victory".  They believe they are above the law, and this so-called Judge Rodriguez has reinforced this notion.  I am mightily depressed at this juncture.
Where's the justice?  Caylee has paid for the Anthony's sense of entitlement with her life, Zenaida's reputation and that all of Casey's friends, (poor things,) has been tainted.
Everyone has an agenda, including those we are supposed to trust with, (and I quote,)"hearing and addressing our grievances," are incredibly biased. I can't bear the smug looks of Cindy and company.   I'm still::MonkeyMad::

Shame on them for gloating about something this trival compared to their granddaughter being murdered by their slore, but like I said they wont be smiling in the end.   Daughter be dam'd, how can they reconcile with themselves that they want to spare her after what she did to that precious beautiful babygirl?  During Casey's murder trial they will be skered on a stick!   I dont know how they live with themselves


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 09, 2009, 05:29:02 PM
One thing to keep in mind though, in the case that absolutely matters ALL of these scumbuckets will get theirs & the prosecution will see to it.  DC won this round but he has far from escaped his stupidity...same will be true of George, Cindy, Lee & Bozo

Justice will prevail for Caylee
::MonkeyJustice::

 ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice::




I really don't see that coming with the others.  Casey will get hers, but for now no charges are pending against the others..and if that would rear it's ugly head, then their attorneys will ask for immunity just like Lee's did in the past.  The prosecutions case in Caylee's death is about Casey.


Gypsy, what they will face is prejuring themselves - yes, there are no charges pending on them BUT they are not immuned to ever being charged with something including perjury at trial which is inevitable.   Their attorneys (both Conway & Luka)  did ask for full immunity & none of them have received it

I thought Lee got immunity which is why Luka said he is no longer Lee's attorney as he was no longer needed?   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 05:29:32 PM
NEW BLINK POST (I'm a little late posting this):

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/09/09/cayleecasey-case-dominic-casey-takes-stand-in-zenaida-gonzalez-case/

Caylee/Casey Case: Dominic Casey Takes Stand in Zenaida Gonzalez Case


thanks Klaas and I agree with Blink's prediction....ZFG's case will be shelved until after the criminal trial!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 05:33:02 PM
One thing to keep in mind though, in the case that absolutely matters ALL of these scumbuckets will get theirs & the prosecution will see to it.  DC won this round but he has far from escaped his stupidity...same will be true of George, Cindy, Lee & Bozo

Justice will prevail for Caylee
::MonkeyJustice::

 ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice::




I really don't see that coming with the others.  Casey will get hers, but for now no charges are pending against the others..and if that would rear it's ugly head, then their attorneys will ask for immunity just like Lee's did in the past.  The prosecutions case in Caylee's death is about Casey.


Gypsy, what they will face is prejuring themselves - yes, there are no charges pending on them BUT they are not immuned to ever being charged with something including perjury at trial which is inevitable.   Their attorneys (both Conway & Luka)  did ask for full immunity & none of them have received it

I thought Lee got immunity which is why Luka said he is no longer Lee's attorney as he was no longer needed?   ::MonkeyConfused::

NR, that is my understanding as well. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 05:35:00 PM
Their attorneys (both Conway & Luka)  did ask for full immunity & none of them have received it
[/quote]

Buahahahahaha! That cheered me up. Thanks! Here...how about some of this nice merlot? Anyone else?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 09, 2009, 05:36:55 PM
Here's what I get the most annoyed about...The idea that George and Cindy are gloating over this "victory".  They believe they are above the law, and this so-called Judge Rodriguez has reinforced this notion.  I am mightily depressed at this juncture.
Where's the justice?  Caylee has paid for the Anthony's sense of entitlement with her life, Zenaida's reputation and that all of Casey's friends, (poor things,) has been tainted.
Everyone has an agenda, including those we are supposed to trust with, (and I quote,)"hearing and addressing our grievances," are incredibly biased. I can't bear the smug looks of Cindy and company.   I'm still::MonkeyMad::

Shame on them for gloating about something this trival compared to their granddaughter being murdered by their slore, but like I said they wont be smiling in the end.   Daughter be dam'd, how can they reconcile with themselves that they want to spare her after what she did to that precious beautiful babygirl?  During Casey's murder trial they will be skered on a stick!   I dont know how they live with themselves

Capp I hope you are correct about being skured on a stick.  I used to think that as well.  Then everytime something happened that could be directly connected to the Ants, they get a pass  for one reason or another, mostly because they pull out their grieving grandparent card.  Any other normal citizen would have charges, fines or be in jail, but not the Ants or their close circle.  After watching today with Judge R taking the stick away each time it came out I just don't know anymore.  Seems that  the Judicial system is more concerned about those that commit the crime than the victims and peripheral fodder of the crimes.  Today it proved it to me in spades.  I hope I am proven wrong in the future.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 05:37:18 PM
Here's what I get the most annoyed about...The idea that George and Cindy are gloating over this "victory".  They believe they are above the law, and this so-called Judge Rodriguez has reinforced this notion.  I am mightily depressed at this juncture.
Where's the justice?  Caylee has paid for the Anthony's sense of entitlement with her life, Zenaida's reputation and that all of Casey's friends, (poor things,) has been tainted.
Everyone has an agenda, including those we are supposed to trust with, (and I quote,)"hearing and addressing our grievances," are incredibly biased. I can't bear the smug looks of Cindy and company.   I'm still::MonkeyMad::

Shame on them for gloating about something this trival compared to their granddaughter being murdered by their slore, but like I said they wont be smiling in the end.   Daughter be dam'd, how can they reconcile with themselves that they want to spare her after what she did to that precious beautiful babygirl?  During Casey's murder trial they will be skered on a stick!   I dont know how they live with themselves

I think the A's will be handled with kid gloves during the trial.  They will be lulled into a feeling of confidence. I am sure they will LIE but I can't believe they will ever be prosecuted for anything!!  THIS IS JMO based on what I have seen so far. Of course my opinion is subject to change at anytime ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: monkalicious on September 09, 2009, 05:40:09 PM
Their attorneys (both Conway & Luka)  did ask for full immunity & none of them have received it

Buahahahahaha! That cheered me up. Thanks! Here...how about some of this nice merlot? Anyone else?
[/quote]
I'm trying to get over this hearing.  I'll take one, or two, perhaps, twelve.  Thanks!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 05:41:31 PM
One thing to keep in mind though, in the case that absolutely matters ALL of these scumbuckets will get theirs & the prosecution will see to it.  DC won this round but he has far from escaped his stupidity...same will be true of George, Cindy, Lee & Bozo

Justice will prevail for Caylee
::MonkeyJustice::

 ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice::




I really don't see that coming with the others.  Casey will get hers, but for now no charges are pending against the others..and if that would rear it's ugly head, then their attorneys will ask for immunity just like Lee's did in the past.  The prosecutions case in Caylee's death is about Casey.


Gypsy, what they will face is prejuring themselves - yes, there are no charges pending on them BUT they are not immuned to ever being charged with something including perjury at trial which is inevitable.   Their attorneys (both Conway & Luka)  did ask for full immunity & none of them have received it

I thought Lee got immunity which is why Luka said he is no longer Lee's attorney as he was no longer needed?   ::MonkeyConfused::

NR, that is my understanding as well. 
O I could have missed that due to my taking ill, I never saw Luka state that--Id love to see where that was said or reported


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on September 09, 2009, 05:42:30 PM
I'll see you all later.........I need a drink.   ::MonkeyWaa::

Can I come too?  ::MonkeyMad::

Where's Trimm?  If she gets the cart and picks you all up, the first round of drinks is on me.   ::MonkeyDevil2::

Pick me up too....and don't count on me as the designated driver ::MonkeyTease::

 ::MonkeyCheer4::  Who's driving?
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/trimmonthelake/113_0505_08z2005_dodge_viperside-1.gif)






No Rose  ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Protect the little babies on September 09, 2009, 05:43:17 PM
The "JUDGE" is chewing on Mitnick. Where's SUNNY?????  ::MonkeyMad::

I am here MADE AS A WET HEN!  I intend to write him a letter and tell him exactly what I think of him, his rulings, his frigging condescending attitude, making fun of KM's accent and his obvious bias!   ::MonkeyMad::

I would like to see that!     ::MonkeyDance:: Please tell us if he responds.


 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

As much as I would be curious as well, I really suggest that you don't follow through on that.  On one of the first hearing this Judge remarked about how he was getting emails from outsiders and he did NOT like it and that he would take measures upon those that continuted to do it....so please,,,don't do it....imo...

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 09, 2009, 05:45:14 PM
One thing to keep in mind though, in the case that absolutely matters ALL of these scumbuckets will get theirs & the prosecution will see to it.  DC won this round but he has far from escaped his stupidity...same will be true of George, Cindy, Lee & Bozo

Justice will prevail for Caylee
::MonkeyJustice::

 ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice::




I really don't see that coming with the others.  Casey will get hers, but for now no charges are pending against the others..and if that would rear it's ugly head, then their attorneys will ask for immunity just like Lee's did in the past.  The prosecutions case in Caylee's death is about Casey.


Gypsy, what they will face is prejuring themselves - yes, there are no charges pending on them BUT they are not immuned to ever being charged with something including perjury at trial which is inevitable.   Their attorneys (both Conway & Luka)  did ask for full immunity & none of them have received it

I thought Lee got immunity which is why Luka said he is no longer Lee's attorney as he was no longer needed?   ::MonkeyConfused::

NR, that is my understanding as well. 

Lee Anthony To Face Tough Questions In Deposition
Posted: 6:05 am EDT July 30, 2009
Updated: 1:41 pm EDT July 30, 2009

<snipped>


At one point, there was concern that Lee Anthony may be charged with obstruction of justice because of contradicting statements he had given to sheriff's investigators in the past. Now that Lee Anthony has been granted immunity he does not have to worry about that any longer.

http://www.wftv.com/news/20222332/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 05:45:45 PM
Their attorneys (both Conway & Luka)  did ask for full immunity & none of them have received it

Buahahahahaha! That cheered me up. Thanks! Here...how about some of this nice merlot? Anyone else?
I'm trying to get over this hearing.  I'll take one, or two, perhaps, twelve.  Thanks!
[/quote]

Help yourself sweetie.

We need to install a large hot tub in the cage. This one is too little... ::MonkeyBath2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 09, 2009, 05:46:19 PM
Here's what I get the most annoyed about...The idea that George and Cindy are gloating over this "victory".  They believe they are above the law, and this so-called Judge Rodriguez has reinforced this notion.  I am mightily depressed at this juncture.
Where's the justice?  Caylee has paid for the Anthony's sense of entitlement with her life, Zenaida's reputation and that all of Casey's friends, (poor things,) has been tainted.
Everyone has an agenda, including those we are supposed to trust with, (and I quote,)"hearing and addressing our grievances," are incredibly biased. I can't bear the smug looks of Cindy and company.   I'm still::MonkeyMad::

Shame on them for gloating about something this trival compared to their granddaughter being murdered by their slore, but like I said they wont be smiling in the end.   Daughter be dam'd, how can they reconcile with themselves that they want to spare her after what she did to that precious beautiful babygirl?  During Casey's murder trial they will be skered on a stick!   I dont know how they live with themselves

I think the A's will be handled with kid gloves during the trial.  They will be lulled into a feeling of confidence. I am sure they will LIE but I can't believe they will ever be prosecuted for anything!!  THIS IS JMO based on what I have seen so far. Of course my opinion is subject to change at anytime ::MonkeyDevil::
I agree, they will be treated like grieving grandparents, and there will be no prosecution of anything, so lie, lie, lie, you might as well.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 05:49:19 PM
The "JUDGE" is chewing on Mitnick. Where's SUNNY?????  ::MonkeyMad::

I am here MADE AS A WET HEN!  I intend to write him a letter and tell him exactly what I think of him, his rulings, his frigging condescending attitude, making fun of KM's accent and his obvious bias!   ::MonkeyMad::

I would like to see that!     ::MonkeyDance:: Please tell us if he responds.


 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

As much as I would be curious as well, I really suggest that you don't follow through on that.  On one of the first hearing this Judge remarked about how he was getting emails from outsiders and he did NOT like it and that he would take measures upon those that continuted to do it....so please,,,don't do it....imo...

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



Geez, this judge is such an arse. I hadn't heard of that. Thanks.

Someone please tell me... when a judge misbehaves, he's gotta answer to someone, right? Who would that be?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 05:49:40 PM
The "JUDGE" is chewing on Mitnick. Where's SUNNY?????  ::MonkeyMad::

I am here MADE AS A WET HEN!  I intend to write him a letter and tell him exactly what I think of him, his rulings, his frigging condescending attitude, making fun of KM's accent and his obvious bias!   ::MonkeyMad::

I would like to see that!     ::MonkeyDance:: Please tell us if he responds.


 ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

As much as I would be curious as well, I really suggest that you don't follow through on that.  On one of the first hearing this Judge remarked about how he was getting emails from outsiders and he did NOT like it and that he would take measures upon those that continuted to do it....so please,,,don't do it....imo...

 ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::



thanks Protect, but he can't do diddly squat to anyone for simply writing a letter...as long as it is respectful and doesn't contain and threats or perceived threats.  If people can write to their senators, state representative and the president,  this measly judge can't do a thing to someone for writing to him. A much as he would like to think he can.  He is too full of himself!!  But, I will it run it by an attorney friend before I send it ::MonkeyWink:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 05:49:51 PM
Today's hearing on youtube:

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaoXgu1Cv0E

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSqCDDgx3QI

Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MRRMlg32PQ&feature=channel_page

Part 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhFFf6ud4MQ&feature=channel

Part 5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OqF7HJ4YKo&feature=channel



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 09, 2009, 05:51:36 PM
One thing to keep in mind though, in the case that absolutely matters ALL of these scumbuckets will get theirs & the prosecution will see to it.  DC won this round but he has far from escaped his stupidity...same will be true of George, Cindy, Lee & Bozo

Justice will prevail for Caylee
::MonkeyJustice::

 ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice::




I really don't see that coming with the others.  Casey will get hers, but for now no charges are pending against the others..and if that would rear it's ugly head, then their attorneys will ask for immunity just like Lee's did in the past.  The prosecutions case in Caylee's death is about Casey.


Gypsy, what they will face is prejuring themselves - yes, there are no charges pending on them BUT they are not immuned to ever being charged with something including perjury at trial which is inevitable.   Their attorneys (both Conway & Luka)  did ask for full immunity & none of them have received it

I thought Lee got immunity which is why Luka said he is no longer Lee's attorney as he was no longer needed?   ::MonkeyConfused::

NR, that is my understanding as well. 
O I could have missed that due to my taking ill, I never saw Luka state that--Id love to see where that was said or reported

Posted it at around the same time you posted this.   ::MonkeyCheer4::  Glad you are feeling better.  I missed you. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Brandi on September 09, 2009, 05:55:19 PM
Just got caught up today and I agree with many here, that the Anthonys will get their just due before this is all over. As Capp says, "they won't be smiling in the end."

Patience is what we need.

O/T: Northern Rose and tupelo, your orders are ready for pick up in the thread located in my sig line ;-)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 05:57:50 PM
Today's hearing on youtube:

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaoXgu1Cv0E

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSqCDDgx3QI

Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MRRMlg32PQ&feature=channel_page

Part 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhFFf6ud4MQ&feature=channel

Part 5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OqF7HJ4YKo&feature=channel



thanks cece...that was fast...and as distasteful as it may be...I am going to listen to each part and take VERY GOOD NOTES!! ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 06:01:02 PM
Their attorneys (both Conway & Luka)  did ask for full immunity & none of them have received it

Buahahahahaha! That cheered me up. Thanks! Here...how about some of this nice merlot? Anyone else?
I'm trying to get over this hearing.  I'll take one, or two, perhaps, twelve.  Thanks!

Help yourself sweetie.

We need to install a large hot tub in the cage. This one is too little... ::MonkeyBath2::
[/quote]

 ::MonkeyLaugh::  I guess we'll just have to line them up!

 ::MonkeyBath2:: ::MonkeyBath2:: ::MonkeyBath2:: ::MonkeyBath2:: ::MonkeyBath2:: ::MonkeyBath2:: ::MonkeyBath2:: ::MonkeyBath2:: ::MonkeyBath2:: ::MonkeyBath2:: ::MonkeyBath2:: ::MonkeyBath2::

Pass the wine please.   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Babybear on September 09, 2009, 06:03:24 PM
I agree with those who think that George and Cindy will never face justice for anything they have done.  In every case where they could be charged, they have escaped any repercussions for their actions, from tampering with evidence to participating with a felon chasing another car at high speed.  They have lied under oath, they have refused to answer questions under subpoena.  For some reason, they are always treated with kid gloves.  Nothing will ever change.

I believe it was extremely unjudicial for Judge Rodriguez to mock Mr. Mitnik's accent, to not allow him to finish a sentence and to find in favor of Dominic Casey not having to be deposed.  If I were Mr. Mitnik, I would ask Judge Rodriguez to recuse himself from this case because he is obviously prejudiced in favor of the Anthonys. I can only wonder if he and Mr. Mitnik have some kind of history.

The above is just my opinion and I do not need nor welcome a pseudo-legal opinion of it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 06:05:09 PM
 ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer3::

Looks like you can rate the Judge here:

http://www.ratethecourts.com/judge.php?id=150880&which=judge


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 06:08:09 PM
Just got caught up today and I agree with many here, that the Anthonys will get their just due before this is all over. As Capp says, "they won't be smiling in the end."

Patience is what we need.

O/T: Northern Rose and tupelo, your orders are ready for pick up in the thread located in my sig line ;-)

I agree. I can feel it in my bones...payment is coming.

Patience is definitely what I need. Right now, it's coming from a wine glass.  ::MonkeyWink:: And it's therapeutic to travel through it with fellow monkeys. You all are the bee's knees! THE best on the net. Nick and I love SM and Blink too. Team Blink is awesome!

Brandi, I'm still fairly new here, but have lurked a long time. The creations you make here are wonderful. I'd love to know how you make such fantastic avis and those precious signs you make in honor of the missing. Is there a particular spot around here to ask questions about how they're done?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 06:09:01 PM
It looks like some have already made comments on his "performance" from today:

http://www.ratethecourts.com/comments.php?id=150880


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 06:09:22 PM
One thing to keep in mind though, in the case that absolutely matters ALL of these scumbuckets will get theirs & the prosecution will see to it.  DC won this round but he has far from escaped his stupidity...same will be true of George, Cindy, Lee & Bozo

Justice will prevail for Caylee
::MonkeyJustice::

 ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice::




I really don't see that coming with the others.  Casey will get hers, but for now no charges are pending against the others..and if that would rear it's ugly head, then their attorneys will ask for immunity just like Lee's did in the past.  The prosecutions case in Caylee's death is about Casey.


Gypsy, what they will face is prejuring themselves - yes, there are no charges pending on them BUT they are not immuned to ever being charged with something including perjury at trial which is inevitable.   Their attorneys (both Conway & Luka)  did ask for full immunity & none of them have received it

I thought Lee got immunity which is why Luka said he is no longer Lee's attorney as he was no longer needed?   ::MonkeyConfused::

NR, that is my understanding as well. 

Lee Anthony To Face Tough Questions In Deposition
Posted: 6:05 am EDT July 30, 2009
Updated: 1:41 pm EDT July 30, 2009

<snipped>


At one point, there was concern that Lee Anthony may be charged with obstruction of justice because of contradicting statements he had given to sheriff's investigators in the past. Now that Lee Anthony has been granted immunity he does not have to worry about that any longer.

http://www.wftv.com/news/20222332/detail.html


Tks for that, yup I was recuping from my hospitalization at that time & did not see that -Ugh, o boy that took a bit of wind out of my sail, but why am I left with that  there must be a strategy behind that agreement...otherwise its sickening.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 06:09:53 PM
Their attorneys (both Conway & Luka)  did ask for full immunity & none of them have received it

Buahahahahaha! That cheered me up. Thanks! Here...how about some of this nice merlot? Anyone else?
I'm trying to get over this hearing.  I'll take one, or two, perhaps, twelve.  Thanks!

Help yourself sweetie.

We need to install a large hot tub in the cage. This one is too little... ::MonkeyBath2::

 ::MonkeyLaugh::  I guess we'll just have to line them up!

 ::MonkeyBath2:: ::MonkeyBath2:: ::MonkeyBath2:: ::MonkeyBath2:: ::MonkeyBath2:: ::MonkeyBath2:: ::MonkeyBath2:: ::MonkeyBath2:: ::MonkeyBath2:: ::MonkeyBath2:: ::MonkeyBath2:: ::MonkeyBath2::

Pass the wine please.   ::MonkeyLaugh::
[/quote]

LOL...good idea!!! Or even better...let's fill up some tubs with wine...especially after today. I think my blood pressure went up big time today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 09, 2009, 06:11:22 PM
::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer3::

Looks like you can rate the Judge here:

http://www.ratethecourts.com/judge.php?id=150880&which=judge

Cece...that's a great find! THANKS!  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Brandi on September 09, 2009, 06:12:24 PM
Just got caught up today and I agree with many here, that the Anthonys will get their just due before this is all over. As Capp says, "they won't be smiling in the end."

Patience is what we need.

O/T: Northern Rose and tupelo, your orders are ready for pick up in the thread located in my sig line ;-)

I agree. I can feel it in my bones...payment is coming.

Patience is definitely what I need. Right now, it's coming from a wine glass.  ::MonkeyWink:: And it's therapeutic to travel through it with fellow monkeys. You all are the bee's knees! THE best on the net. Nick and I love SM and Blink too. Team Blink is awesome!

Brandi, I'm still fairly new here, but have lurked a long time. The creations you make here are wonderful. I'd love to know how you make such fantastic avis and those precious signs you make in honor of the missing. Is there a particular spot around here to ask questions about how they're done?

Yes, my avatar thread that is mentioned in my sig line is the place to discuss that. I don't discuss avatars or art in MP threads. Feel free to chat there about whatever you want ;-)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: numbersgirl on September 09, 2009, 06:22:41 PM
Mr Mitnik was very methodical in his questioning about what contracts DC had and with whom and when.  When he asked DC about the psychic, did anyone else wonder when he was going to ask about a contract between DC and Lee?  IMO, DC was on the phone with Lee when he was poking in the ground near the sight of Caylee's remains.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 09, 2009, 06:23:13 PM
One thing to keep in mind though, in the case that absolutely matters ALL of these scumbuckets will get theirs & the prosecution will see to it.  DC won this round but he has far from escaped his stupidity...same will be true of George, Cindy, Lee & Bozo

Justice will prevail for Caylee
::MonkeyJustice::

 ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice::




I really don't see that coming with the others.  Casey will get hers, but for now no charges are pending against the others..and if that would rear it's ugly head, then their attorneys will ask for immunity just like Lee's did in the past.  The prosecutions case in Caylee's death is about Casey.


Gypsy, what they will face is prejuring themselves - yes, there are no charges pending on them BUT they are not immuned to ever being charged with something including perjury at trial which is inevitable.   Their attorneys (both Conway & Luka)  did ask for full immunity & none of them have received it

I thought Lee got immunity which is why Luka said he is no longer Lee's attorney as he was no longer needed?   ::MonkeyConfused::

NR, that is my understanding as well. 

Lee Anthony To Face Tough Questions In Deposition
Posted: 6:05 am EDT July 30, 2009
Updated: 1:41 pm EDT July 30, 2009

<snipped>


At one point, there was concern that Lee Anthony may be charged with obstruction of justice because of contradicting statements he had given to sheriff's investigators in the past. Now that Lee Anthony has been granted immunity he does not have to worry about that any longer.

http://www.wftv.com/news/20222332/detail.html


Catching up - a few things.

THE JUDGE dismissed it for now WITHOUT PREJUDICE.  NOT WITH. (you heard correct FLmonkey!)

Lee was given USE IMMUNITY only that I have ever heard officially.  So yes, I am about to disagree with WFTV link above.  Use immunity protects him from prosecution from charges that the state learned of via his testimony.  It does NOT stop them from bringing charges in the future if he lies on the stand, etc.  It only limits them to the testimony.  I have posted on this several times - but if Lee said during his testimony he poured bleach in the back of the car because he was afraid his sister was involved.  The state can't prosecute him for that based on his testimony.  If after the trial or at any point really - a neighbor walks in and hands them a video tape of Lee pouring bleach in the car and telling cindy why he is doing it, etc - that would be information glee'ed from outside of that deposition and he could be charged based on that.  It (THE USE IMMUNITY)  ONLY protects him from his testimony during that deposition.
Back to reading...



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 06:27:39 PM
wesh video report:

http://www.wesh.com/video/20818569/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 06:31:05 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/20819273/detail.html

The private eye's attorney argued that he was hired by the Anthony family and Jose Baez, so he has privileged information and did not have to testify. Keith Mitnik, the attorney for Gonzalez, argued he needed to ask those questions before that determination could be made. So, D. Casey's attorney suggested taking his testimony and the judge agreed.

"When you were in the woods looking for the body, you were hired by George, Cindy, Jose and Casey Anthony?"

"Yes, that would be correct," D. Casey said.

The judge ruled Dominic Casey did not have to be deposed, with the condition that he show the contracts to the judge stating he was indeed employed by the Anthony family and Jose Baez.

(snipped)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 09, 2009, 06:34:58 PM
Link supporting what I just said on USE immunity.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/14/ng.01.html
------>  snip
GRACE: ... there`s more to getting immunity than a subpoena showing up in your mailbox via registered mail. You got to work out immunity deal.

RODRIGUEZ: No, not in the state of Florida, Nancy.

GRACE: Good. Explain.

RODRIGUEZ: The law in the state of Florida is if a state attorney subpoenas any witness, that witness has immunity.

GRACE: Oh, you`re talking about use immunity, not blanket immunity.

RODRIGUEZ: Yes. Exactly. Exactly.

GRACE: OK. I understand.

RODRIGUEZ: So obviously, they want to talk to him. He doesn`t have a privilege. He doesn`t have a legal privilege...

GRACE: Right.

RODRIGUEZ: ... of any conversations he`s had with his sister or anyone else.

GRACE: And very quickly, explain the difference between use immunity and blanket immunity.

RODRIGUEZ: Anything he says to them, they cannot use against him in a criminal prosecution. If they could otherwise prove any other crime without use of his own words, they could still prosecute him.

I can get more, if asked.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 06:48:30 PM
I agree with those who think that George and Cindy will never face justice for anything they have done.  In every case where they could be charged, they have escaped any repercussions for their actions, from tampering with evidence to participating with a felon chasing another car at high speed.  They have lied under oath, they have refused to answer questions under subpoena.  For some reason, they are always treated with kid gloves.  Nothing will ever change.

I believe it was extremely unjudicial for Judge Rodriguez to mock Mr. Mitnik's accent, to not allow him to finish a sentence and to find in favor of Dominic Casey not having to be deposed.  If I were Mr. Mitnik, I would ask Judge Rodriguez to recuse himself from this case because he is obviously prejudiced in favor of the Anthonys. I can only wonder if he and Mr. Mitnik have some kind of history.

The above is just my opinion and I do not need nor welcome a pseudo-legal opinion of it.


 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 06:49:11 PM
Good Job ANJM!  Thank you.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 06:49:15 PM
::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer3::

Looks like you can rate the Judge here:

http://www.ratethecourts.com/judge.php?id=150880&which=judge

WOOHOO...so far he has a big fat F


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 09, 2009, 06:50:24 PM
Link supporting what I just said on USE immunity.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/14/ng.01.html
------>  snip
GRACE: ... there`s more to getting immunity than a subpoena showing up in your mailbox via registered mail. You got to work out immunity deal.

RODRIGUEZ: No, not in the state of Florida, Nancy.

GRACE: Good. Explain.

RODRIGUEZ: The law in the state of Florida is if a state attorney subpoenas any witness, that witness has immunity.

GRACE: Oh, you`re talking about use immunity, not blanket immunity.

RODRIGUEZ: Yes. Exactly. Exactly.

GRACE: OK. I understand.

RODRIGUEZ: So obviously, they want to talk to him. He doesn`t have a privilege. He doesn`t have a legal privilege...

GRACE: Right.

RODRIGUEZ: ... of any conversations he`s had with his sister or anyone else.

GRACE: And very quickly, explain the difference between use immunity and blanket immunity.

RODRIGUEZ: Anything he says to them, they cannot use against him in a criminal prosecution. If they could otherwise prove any other crime without use of his own words, they could still prosecute him.

I can get more, if asked.
Thanks NewsJunkie
What's the difference between dismissing with prejudice and dismissing without prejudice?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 06:50:33 PM
Part 1 of today's hearing on WFTV:


http://www.wftv.com/video/20819111/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 06:54:34 PM
One thing to keep in mind though, in the case that absolutely matters ALL of these scumbuckets will get theirs & the prosecution will see to it.  DC won this round but he has far from escaped his stupidity...same will be true of George, Cindy, Lee & Bozo

Justice will prevail for Caylee
::MonkeyJustice::

 ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice::




I really don't see that coming with the others.  Casey will get hers, but for now no charges are pending against the others..and if that would rear it's ugly head, then their attorneys will ask for immunity just like Lee's did in the past.  The prosecutions case in Caylee's death is about Casey.


Gypsy, what they will face is prejuring themselves - yes, there are no charges pending on them BUT they are not immuned to ever being charged with something including perjury at trial which is inevitable.   Their attorneys (both Conway & Luka)  did ask for full immunity & none of them have received it

I thought Lee got immunity which is why Luka said he is no longer Lee's attorney as he was no longer needed?   ::MonkeyConfused::

NR, that is my understanding as well. 

Lee Anthony To Face Tough Questions In Deposition
Posted: 6:05 am EDT July 30, 2009
Updated: 1:41 pm EDT July 30, 2009

<snipped>


At one point, there was concern that Lee Anthony may be charged with obstruction of justice because of contradicting statements he had given to sheriff's investigators in the past. Now that Lee Anthony has been granted immunity he does not have to worry about that any longer.

http://www.wftv.com/news/20222332/detail.html


Catching up - a few things.

THE JUDGE dismissed it for now WITHOUT PREJUDICE.  NOT WITH. (you heard correct FLmonkey!)

Lee was given USE IMMUNITY only that I have ever heard officially.  So yes, I am about to disagree with WFTV link above.  Use immunity protects him from prosecution from charges that the state learned of via his testimony.  It does NOT stop them from bringing charges in the future if he lies on the stand, etc.  It only limits them to the testimony.  I have posted on this several times - but if Lee said during his testimony he poured bleach in the back of the car because he was afraid his sister was involved.  The state can't prosecute him for that based on his testimony.  If after the trial or at any point really - a neighbor walks in and hands them a video tape of Lee pouring bleach in the car and telling cindy why he is doing it, etc - that would be information glee'ed from outside of that deposition and he could be charged based on that.  It (THE USE IMMUNITY)  ONLY protects him from his testimony during that deposition.
Back to reading...



ANJ - I do believe you are correct. It was Use Immunity.  Thanks for the clarification. The same type of immunity that was offered to kc in the early days.  Wonder if she is wishing she had taken that ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 06:55:25 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony.html

Casey Anthony: Might the judge not postpone civil trial? WKMG asks
posted by halboedeker on Sep 9, 2009 6:31:59 PM

George and Cindy Anthony won't be forced to answer questions in the defamation suit against their daughter. So the focus today moved to Dominic Casey, a private investigator for the Anthonys.

"The purpose of this hearing was to determine whether Dominic Casey should be forced to give a sworn deposition," WKMG-Channel 6's Mike DeForest said.

WKMG showed the contrasting arguments: His attorney, Diana Tennis, said no.

But Keith Mitnik, an attorney for Zenaida Gonzalez, said he wanted to know about the private eye's work. Gonzalez is suing Casey Anthony for linking her to the disappearance of toddler Caylee Anthony. Casey Anthony is charged with the first-degree murder of her daughter, Caylee.

"If he's an investigator, I want to know: Were you looking for Zanny the nanny?" Mitnik said. "If he wasn't, that sure goes a long way to showing nobody really believes anything Zanny the nanny. Why does that matter to my client? She ultimately became the Zanny the nanny."

But Judge Jose Rodriguez ruled that Gonzalez's attorneys won't be allowed to question the private investigator. "The judge says his information would be privileged," DeForest said.

Dominic Casey told the court he had three letters of engagement: with Casey Anthony, with her parents and with Jose Baez, Casey's attorney in the murder case.

Gonzalez's attorneys were asking the judge to hold the private eye in contempt for not showing up for a deposition, WFTV-Channel 9's Mary Nguyen reported. Gonzalez attorney Mitnik pressed to interview Dominic Casey today, and the judge agreed. Nguyen termed the judge's decision "a very odd move" before delivering his ruling.

The scene in court? Hot. "There were heated exchanges between the judges, the two attorneys and Dominic Casey," Nguyen said. "They were all arguing over whether or not Casey was employed by the Anthony family."

Mitnik dropped his motion to compel George and Cindy Anthony to answer questions. The reason? "Much of the information he [Mitnik] wanted to get on the record from George and Cindy was already on the record in FBI and other law-enforcement interviews," WESH-Channel 2's Amanda Ober reported.

In another development, WKMG reported that Gonzalez's attorneys said Casey Anthony would no longer have to answer a questionnaire that they submitted to her in jail.

The meaning of that move? The judge indicated that he might not postpone the defamation suit, DeForest said.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 09, 2009, 06:55:37 PM
Link supporting what I just said on USE immunity.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/14/ng.01.html
------>  snip
GRACE: ... there`s more to getting immunity than a subpoena showing up in your mailbox via registered mail. You got to work out immunity deal.

RODRIGUEZ: No, not in the state of Florida, Nancy.

GRACE: Good. Explain.

RODRIGUEZ: The law in the state of Florida is if a state attorney subpoenas any witness, that witness has immunity.

GRACE: Oh, you`re talking about use immunity, not blanket immunity.

RODRIGUEZ: Yes. Exactly. Exactly.

GRACE: OK. I understand.

RODRIGUEZ: So obviously, they want to talk to him. He doesn`t have a privilege. He doesn`t have a legal privilege...

GRACE: Right.

RODRIGUEZ: ... of any conversations he`s had with his sister or anyone else.

GRACE: And very quickly, explain the difference between use immunity and blanket immunity.

RODRIGUEZ: Anything he says to them, they cannot use against him in a criminal prosecution. If they could otherwise prove any other crime without use of his own words, they could still prosecute him.

I can get more, if asked.
Thanks NewsJunkie
What's the difference between dismissing with prejudice and dismissing without prejudice?

With prejudice would mean the matter can not be revisited.
Without prejudice means the matter can be re-submitted and looked at again.  Usually it is best to bring more reasons why it should be done.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 09, 2009, 06:57:42 PM
Thanks Cece.   ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 09, 2009, 06:58:49 PM
If my $0.05 definition was not satisfying brain candy...........
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Without+Prejudice

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/with+Prejudice


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 07:00:55 PM
If my $0.05 definition was not satisfying brain candy...........
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Without+Prejudice

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/with+Prejudice

LOL...I am going to start calling you Legal Dict!! ::MonkeyTease::  Seriously, thank you.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 07:03:57 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/20819273/detail.html

The private eye's attorney argued that he was hired by the Anthony family and Jose Baez, so he has privileged information and did not have to testify. Keith Mitnik, the attorney for Gonzalez, argued he needed to ask those questions before that determination could be made. So, D. Casey's attorney suggested taking his testimony and the judge agreed.

"When you were in the woods looking for the body, you were hired by George, Cindy, Jose and Casey Anthony?"

"Yes, that would be correct," D. Casey said.

The judge ruled Dominic Casey did not have to be deposed, with the condition that he show the contracts to the judge stating he was indeed employed by the Anthony family and Jose Baez.

(snipped)

OK, so now they will go type up a contract with a false date from today   :roll: - it should have been provided today knowing what they were there for, bogus judge, just bogus with proof of payment as well...more bunk & bull

One more thing   Full or Use immunity for Lee, which is it?  Again, I was hospitalized and did not see any discussion on this that clarifies it, just the mention of "immunity" by WFTV.   Use immunity would not free him from prosecution on new evidence (in other words, not by his testimony), also perjury makes "use immunity" null and void.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 07:06:30 PM
Thanks Cece.   ::MonkeyBike::

You're welcome Trimm & thank you for all your links & input!   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 09, 2009, 07:09:34 PM
Nitey nite Monks...time to go for a walk!  TTYL! ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 09, 2009, 07:10:18 PM
Link supporting what I just said on USE immunity.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/14/ng.01.html
------>  snip
GRACE: ... there`s more to getting immunity than a subpoena showing up in your mailbox via registered mail. You got to work out immunity deal.

RODRIGUEZ: No, not in the state of Florida, Nancy.

GRACE: Good. Explain.

RODRIGUEZ: The law in the state of Florida is if a state attorney subpoenas any witness, that witness has immunity.

GRACE: Oh, you`re talking about use immunity, not blanket immunity.

RODRIGUEZ: Yes. Exactly. Exactly.

GRACE: OK. I understand.

RODRIGUEZ: So obviously, they want to talk to him. He doesn`t have a privilege. He doesn`t have a legal privilege...

GRACE: Right.

RODRIGUEZ: ... of any conversations he`s had with his sister or anyone else.

GRACE: And very quickly, explain the difference between use immunity and blanket immunity.

RODRIGUEZ: Anything he says to them, they cannot use against him in a criminal prosecution. If they could otherwise prove any other crime without use of his own words, they could still prosecute him.

I can get more, if asked.
Thanks NewsJunkie
What's the difference between dismissing with prejudice and dismissing without prejudice?

With prejudice would mean the matter can not be revisited.
Without prejudice means the matter can be re-submitted and looked at again.  Usually it is best to bring more reasons why it should be done.
Thank you so much,I am learning more and more each day about courts and rulings and motions and such.
I voted this judge ALL F's lol


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 07:11:02 PM
Nitey nite Monks...time to go for a walk!  TTYL! ::MonkeyKiss::

Good night Sunny!  Enjoy your evening.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 09, 2009, 07:11:56 PM
I bet Spindy & George will go on national news again tomorrow. My TV set is in serious jeopardy right now....

SUNNY & SEEME,  tell Rodriguez he is creepy and is uglier than ITO and not very photogenic! I'll start collecting bond money.  ::MonkeyMad::

Thanx in advance for your support ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: karenmamo on September 09, 2009, 07:12:13 PM
I sure hope Attorney Mitnik follows through with the sanctions he spoke of earlier.  I hate them all!

numbersgirl..what sanctions? Feeling like I missed something.
TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 09, 2009, 07:15:47 PM
Part 1 of today's hearing on WFTV:


http://www.wftv.com/video/20819111/index.html

I just can't risk my head imploding by watching that again, but thanks for the link cece. :shaking2:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 07:17:22 PM
Part 1 of today's hearing on WFTV:


http://www.wftv.com/video/20819111/index.html

I just can't risk my head imploding by watching that again, but thanks for the link cece. :shaking2:

I know the feeling!   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 07:17:57 PM
Nitey nite Monks...time to go for a walk!  TTYL! ::MonkeyKiss::

nite nite Sunny  ::MonkeyBike:: Im about to take to the treadmill  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 07:19:39 PM
Posted on youtube by justfoolinaround2

http://www.youtube.com/v/Fyc4k7bGvz8&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x3a3a3a&color2=0x999999&border=1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on September 09, 2009, 07:29:49 PM
hello monkeys
i've been catching u and see that there is no good news for Zenaida as of yet....BUT, AND DON'T THROW NANNERS...this is just from what i understand...Slander only happens if people believe that it is true.  and maybe for the first three days of all this mess (after cindy called 911) people thought it was true...but when more came out, i didn't think some nanny named zanny did it...i thought (know in my heart) that casey did it.  so, maybe its a good thing that happened - the judge saying its a bs suit (now granted not good for Zenaida) because if no reasonable person ever though she was really involved, then its still saying casey was full of ::MonkeyGavel:: it from the beginning. 
I hope that makes some kind of sense.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 09, 2009, 07:35:12 PM
Cece, tks for posting that video - the end was great & a laugh was much needed


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 07:36:23 PM
It's time for me to log off.  Thanks to everyone for all the great info!  Enjoy your evening.

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 09, 2009, 07:38:15 PM
Cece, tks for posting that video - the end was great & a laugh was much needed

You're welcome Capp.  I needed a good laugh as well!  It was another frustrating day in the civil hearing.

Good night all.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 09, 2009, 07:59:23 PM
Just got caught up today and I agree with many here, that the Anthonys will get their just due before this is all over. As Capp says, "they won't be smiling in the end."

Patience is what we need.

O/T: Northern Rose and tupelo, your orders are ready for pick up in the thread located in my sig line ;-)
I found it and I love it!! Thanks again and with your instructions, I uploaded it on the first try!!  ::MonkeyCheer3::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 08:01:31 PM
Just got caught up today and I agree with many here, that the Anthonys will get their just due before this is all over. As Capp says, "they won't be smiling in the end."

Patience is what we need.

O/T: Northern Rose and tupelo, your orders are ready for pick up in the thread located in my sig line ;-)
I found it and I love it!! Thanks again and with your instructions, I uploaded it on the first try!!  ::MonkeyCheer3::

TUPELO, you are be-u-ti-ful!!!!   ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 09, 2009, 08:17:19 PM
hello monkeys
i've been catching u and see that there is no good news for Zenaida as of yet....BUT, AND DON'T THROW NANNERS...this is just from what i understand...Slander only happens if people believe that it is true.  and maybe for the first three days of all this mess (after cindy called 911) people thought it was true...but when more came out, i didn't think some nanny named zanny did it...i thought (know in my heart) that casey did it.  so, maybe its a good thing that happened - the judge saying its a bs suit (now granted not good for Zenaida) because if no reasonable person ever though she was really involved, then its still saying casey was full of ::MonkeyGavel:: it from the beginning. 
I hope that makes some kind of sense.
::MonkeyWaa::
The employer who fired Zenaida apparently thought there was some truth to it....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 09, 2009, 08:32:43 PM
Link supporting what I just said on USE immunity.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/14/ng.01.html
------>  snip
GRACE: ... there`s more to getting immunity than a subpoena showing up in your mailbox via registered mail. You got to work out immunity deal.

RODRIGUEZ: No, not in the state of Florida, Nancy.

GRACE: Good. Explain.

RODRIGUEZ: The law in the state of Florida is if a state attorney subpoenas any witness, that witness has immunity.

GRACE: Oh, you`re talking about use immunity, not blanket immunity.

RODRIGUEZ: Yes. Exactly. Exactly.

GRACE: OK. I understand.

RODRIGUEZ: So obviously, they want to talk to him. He doesn`t have a privilege. He doesn`t have a legal privilege...

GRACE: Right.

RODRIGUEZ: ... of any conversations he`s had with his sister or anyone else.

GRACE: And very quickly, explain the difference between use immunity and blanket immunity.

RODRIGUEZ: Anything he says to them, they cannot use against him in a criminal prosecution. If they could otherwise prove any other crime without use of his own words, they could still prosecute him.

I can get more, if asked.
Thanks NewsJunkie
What's the difference between dismissing with prejudice and dismissing without prejudice?

With prejudice would mean the matter can not be revisited.
Without prejudice means the matter can be re-submitted and looked at again.  Usually it is best to bring more reasons why it should be done.
Thank you so much,I am learning more and more each day about courts and rulings and motions and such.
I voted this judge ALL F's lol

Well, he has a solid D-- from me right now!  I have heard him clearly indicate to both sides, what they are missing and what he wants (gag order request) but what I think the underlying tone to his 'change' is:  He is ticked at Morgan and Morgan for releasing the depo video's - and I think they did that prior to registering them with the court...  (No proof, but I guess we could check the records if anyone is that interested.) .... if I am correct in my assumption, he is holding a grudge which might cost ZG a fair trial.  I think he took heat for not controlling his courtroom, case and thus his new hard-nosed demeanor.  He was, IMHO highly unprofessional.  I do feel for him that he is stuck between a rock and a hard place, but that is not any of the players in his courtroom's fault.  I am sure due to his recent ratings issues he is none to pleased to postpone this case till after the criminal murder trial.  I think that is just what he wants to do.  He might be well advised to take the lead from the criminal fraud trial ruling.  I can also see he doesn't want to be the one with the appeal on his hands that causes major issues in the murder case.  The testimony in his court room by the players can only be used to impeach a person if I am correct.  IE: If cindy says the sky is green in his court room and says it is yellow in the murder case, then her testimony can be used to impeach her testimony in the murder trial.  He doesn't want the media looking at him, because he feels he is in a hot seat already, IMHO.  Perhaps he is being investigated, lost respect of his peers or is just truly uncomfortable with national scrutiny after the likes of Judge Larry Seidlin.  If the latter is the case, he should excuse himself.  I think Mitnik should ask him to recuse himself today for his behavior.  His failure to even hear Mitnik at the bench as to why the search was relevant - was just wrong on so many levels. (IMHO)  I feel that his denial of this and other issues today was a denial of ZG rights to a fair trial.  He could have ordered everyone to chambers or taken it all in camera or any number of ways, but again I think he is pizzed and he is taking it out on lady justice and ZG in this instance.  I personally feel offended for the people of Florida and the pursuit of justice. 
I have noooooooooo problem with him delaying it till after the murder trial or even dismissing it - if HE HAS A LEGAL BASIS (yelling at him, btw!).  I will be the first one, as you all have seen to say, protect the criminal murder trial, first and foremost.  Heck, I will organize a fundraiser for ZG if she gets denied her day in court to nail casey.  But, I think he needs to find the law or set a legal precedent on the case with confidence and let the district court review his decision if need be.  That is what judges do. 

So, do we have big boy boxers?????????  Cause, I know someone who needs them!
Oh, and thank you! 
RANT OFF!  ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on September 09, 2009, 08:37:17 PM
hello monkeys
i've been catching u and see that there is no good news for Zenaida as of yet....BUT, AND DON'T THROW NANNERS...this is just from what i understand...Slander only happens if people believe that it is true.  and maybe for the first three days of all this mess (after cindy called 911) people thought it was true...but when more came out, i didn't think some nanny named zanny did it...i thought (know in my heart) that casey did it.  so, maybe its a good thing that happened - the judge saying its a bs suit (now granted not good for Zenaida) because if no reasonable person ever though she was really involved, then its still saying casey was full of ::MonkeyGavel:: it from the beginning. 
I hope that makes some kind of sense.
::MonkeyWaa::
The employer who fired Zenaida apparently thought there was some truth to it....
i agree.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: very sad for Zenaida.  i do feel bad for her.. could she not draw unemployment?  what were the grounds of her firing?  i'm really not trying to be a poo;  there may be an upside to all of this as far as Caylee is concerned. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on September 09, 2009, 08:39:54 PM
Quote
Well, he has a solid D-- from me right now!  I have heard him clearly indicate to both sides, what they are missing and what he wants (gag order request) but what I think the underlying tone to his 'change' is:  He is ticked at Morgan and Morgan for releasing the depo video's - and I think they did that prior to registering them with the court...  (No proof, but I guess we could check the records if anyone is that interested.) .... if I am correct in my assumption, he is holding a grudge which might cost ZG a fair trial.  I think he took heat for not controlling his courtroom, case and thus his new hard-nosed demeanor.  He was, IMHO highly unprofessional.  I do feel for him that he is stuck between a rock and a hard place, but that is not any of the players in his courtroom's fault.  I am sure due to his recent ratings issues he is none to pleased to postpone this case till after the criminal murder trial.  I think that is just what he wants to do.  He might be well advised to take the lead from the criminal fraud trial ruling.  I can also see he doesn't want to be the one with the appeal on his hands that causes major issues in the murder case.  The testimony in his court room by the players can only be used to impeach a person if I am correct.  IE: If cindy says the sky is green in his court room and says it is yellow in the murder case, then her testimony can be used to impeach her testimony in the murder trial.  He doesn't want the media looking at him, because he feels he is in a hot seat already, IMHO.  Perhaps he is being investigated, lost respect of his peers or is just truly uncomfortable with national scrutiny after the likes of Judge Larry Seidlin.  If the latter is the case, he should excuse himself.  I think Mitnik should ask him to recuse himself today for his behavior.  His failure to even hear Mitnik at the bench as to why the search was relevant - was just wrong on so many levels. (IMHO)  I feel that his denial of this and other issues today was a denial of ZG rights to a fair trial.  He could have ordered everyone to chambers or taken it all in camera or any number of ways, but again I think he is pizzed and he is taking it out on lady justice and ZG in this instance.  I personally feel offended for the people of Florida and the pursuit of justice.
I have noooooooooo problem with him delaying it till after the murder trial or even dismissing it - if HE HAS A LEGAL BASIS (yelling at him, btw!).  I will be the first one, as you all have seen to say, protect the criminal murder trial, first and foremost.  Heck, I will organize a fundraiser for ZG if she gets denied her day in court to nail casey.  But, I think he needs to find the law or set a legal precedent on the case with confidence and let the district court review his decision if need be.  That is what judges do.

So, do we have big boy boxers?????????  Cause, I know someone who needs them!
Oh, and thank you!
RANT OFF! 

 :salut: :2notworthy: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 09, 2009, 08:41:42 PM
Sorry for the mini novel  .........  I will just skate on out till I calm down! LOL
Night monkeys!   ::MonkeySkate:: ::MonkeySkate:: ::MonkeySkate:: ::MonkeySkate::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on September 09, 2009, 08:46:58 PM
Sorry for the mini novel  .........  I will just skate on out till I calm down! LOL
Night monkeys!   ::MonkeySkate:: ::MonkeySkate:: ::MonkeySkate:: ::MonkeySkate::
::MonkeySkate:: ::MonkeySkate:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 09, 2009, 08:50:20 PM
::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer3::

Looks like you can rate the Judge here:

http://www.ratethecourts.com/judge.php?id=150880&which=judge

Thanx cece!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 09, 2009, 08:51:17 PM
Just got caught up today and I agree with many here, that the Anthonys will get their just due before this is all over. As Capp says, "they won't be smiling in the end."

Patience is what we need.

O/T: Northern Rose and tupelo, your orders are ready for pick up in the thread located in my sig line ;-)
I found it and I love it!! Thanks again and with your instructions, I uploaded it on the first try!!  ::MonkeyCheer3::
Why thank you Fanny! I feel pretty, oh so pretty....  This is my first dress up, and I love it. I also needed a pick me up after the hearing today. I was pretty PO'd about how things went down with Rodriguez, but Brandi lifted my spirits!!

TUPELO, you are be-u-ti-ful!!!!   ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 09, 2009, 08:53:09 PM

Just got caught up today and I agree with many here, that the Anthonys will get their just due before this is all over. As Capp says, "they won't be smiling in the end."

Patience is what we need.

O/T: Northern Rose and tupelo, your orders are ready for pick up in the thread located in my sig line ;-)
I found it and I love it!! Thanks again and with your instructions, I uploaded it on the first try!!  ::MonkeyCheer3::
TUPELO, you are be-u-ti-ful!!!!   ::MonkeyCheer4::
Why thank you Fanny! I feel pretty, oh so pretty....  This is my first dress up, and I love it. I also needed a pick me up after the hearing today. I was pretty PO'd about how things went down with Rodriguez, but Brandi lifted my spirits!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 09, 2009, 08:53:34 PM
Checking in for a few, I see I'm way too early for Conway's court meeting.  Just wanted to say I watched that sorry excuse for a hearing yesterday with Judge Rodriguez.  That was completely unprofessional, as well as inexcusable, for him to mock a lawyer's speech pattern (any lawyer period).  I'd be filing a complaint if it was me, conduct unbecoming a judge or something to that effect.
I think Mr. Mitnick did an excellent job laying out his argument.  I would have added one another thing.  I would have researched (or paid an assistant to research) viewer ratings for local and major networks in the days and weeks following the initial 911 call reporting Caylee missing.  Documentation in hand, I would laid out that my client was falsely accused in front of x-number of people.  Explaining how it would be physically impossible to identify, find, and assemble those same x-number of people in the same place again for Casey Anthony to simply "apologize" and clear my client, I would ask for $1 in damages for each one of those x-number of viewers.  Not only did Casey Anthony damage my client's good name and reputation, her means of employment, her housing situation, but she also intentionally mislead x-number of people.  JMO     

Well said, ISpy!!   ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 09, 2009, 09:00:12 PM
hello monkeys
i've been catching u and see that there is no good news for Zenaida as of yet....BUT, AND DON'T THROW NANNERS...this is just from what i understand...Slander only happens if people believe that it is true.  and maybe for the first three days of all this mess (after cindy called 911) people thought it was true...but when more came out, i didn't think some nanny named zanny did it...i thought (know in my heart) that casey did it.  so, maybe its a good thing that happened - the judge saying its a bs suit (now granted not good for Zenaida) because if no reasonable person ever though she was really involved, then its still saying casey was full of ::MonkeyGavel:: it from the beginning. 
I hope that makes some kind of sense.
::MonkeyWaa::
The employer who fired Zenaida apparently thought there was some truth to it....
i agree.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: very sad for Zenaida.  i do feel bad for her.. could she not draw unemployment?  what were the grounds of her firing?  i'm really not trying to be a poo;  there may be an upside to all of this as far as Caylee is concerned. ::MonkeyAngel::

As far as I remember she stated that her employer fired her  because he just did not want the negative publicity- she was a housekeeper at a Motel and obviously in a position of trust so he got rid of her while this was all swirling around at the start of the case.   Last I heard she was living in a Motel 6 as some kind of arrangement with homeless charity.  If she had unemployment I am sure it has all run out long time ago..   probably needs to be on welfare, poor lady, what a fix to be in... 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 09, 2009, 09:02:49 PM
hello monkeys
i've been catching u and see that there is no good news for Zenaida as of yet....BUT, AND DON'T THROW NANNERS...this is just from what i understand...Slander only happens if people believe that it is true.  and maybe for the first three days of all this mess (after cindy called 911) people thought it was true...but when more came out, i didn't think some nanny named zanny did it...i thought (know in my heart) that casey did it.  so, maybe its a good thing that happened - the judge saying its a bs suit (now granted not good for Zenaida) because if no reasonable person ever though she was really involved, then its still saying casey was full of ::MonkeyGavel:: it from the beginning. 
I hope that makes some kind of sense.
::MonkeyWaa::
The employer who fired Zenaida apparently thought there was some truth to it....
i agree.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: very sad for Zenaida.  i do feel bad for her.. could she not draw unemployment?  what were the grounds of her firing?  i'm really not trying to be a poo;  there may be an upside to all of this as far as Caylee is concerned. ::MonkeyAngel::

As far as I remember she stated that her employer fired her  because he just did not want the negative publicity- she was a housekeeper at a Motel and obviously in a position of trust so he got rid of her while this was all swirling around at the start of the case.   Last I heard she was living in a Motel 6 as some kind of arrangement with homeless charity.  If she had unemployment I am sure it has all run out long time ago..   probably needs to be on welfare, poor lady, what a fix to be in... 

I should have added-  I haven't heard of her staying or dining at the Waldorf on crab cakes, cashing in family photos for $200K or jetting up to New York courtesy of 20/20 , ABC etc,


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 09, 2009, 09:03:39 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/09/blog-live-in-the-casey-anthony.html

WDBO Local News      
BLOG: Live in the Casey Anthony courtroom
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Lawyers representing Zenaida Gonzales are in court this afternoon.  They have withdrawn their request to force George and Cindy Anthony to answer questions in the case and will focues on their quest to make private investigator Dominic Casey give a deposition.

3:46 - Lawyer for ZG says testimony from Dominic Casey is not "privilaged."

3:50 - ZG lawyer:  Mr Casey was hired to find Caylee.  There was no pending litigation at that time.  We would like the court to order Mr Casey to give depo.

3:54 - Diana Tennis - lawyer for Mr Casey says her client has no independent information relating to ZG.  "I have never been given any idea what they want to talk to Mr Casey about."

3:59 Tennis: This was a family coming together, hiring investigators, hiring lawyers, to deal with a tragedy.  There is nothing that Mr Casey knows that doesn't have to do with that.  And that is privileged information.

4:03 Keith Mitnik, lawyer for ZG: Mr Casey worked for George and Cindy not Casey Anthony.

Mitnik: He was working for George and Cindy to go find their grandfather, he was not involved in the criminal case.

"I'm ready for sanctions," [Against Mr Casey]

Am guessing they meant to say 'grandaughter'?   ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Hiding Monkey on September 09, 2009, 09:08:31 PM
Hi Monkeys!!!  Missed ya!  My hubby sat down last night and was watching NG when this case was brought up.  He said " This case is still going on"?  I told him it hasn't gone to trial yet and it won't until 2010.  He said "Who's paying for all this"?  I said, "The taxpayers in Florida".  Of course he went on and on, as disgusted as I am.  The people need to realize this will affect their taxes!  I think if I were there I'd have to protest or something.  At least move it up to the 1st of the year.  Jose really has nothing more to contribute to her defense.  IMO the State has enough!  I wish a judge could listen to what both sides have and decide whether or not to move up or not!!  Any one else feel as disgusted as I do?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 09, 2009, 09:11:10 PM
My gut tells me this judge does not want to jeopardize the criminal trial with the DP at play.. I still dont like him or his faux ruling

Dang!  Weren't they gonna try to use the ruling on this case for 'mitigating circumstances' in the DP in the criminal case? 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Hiding Monkey on September 09, 2009, 09:11:57 PM
Another thing...I'm on a roll now-  ::MonkeyLaugh::  If Cindy, George or whoever..write a book and make money off this terrible situation-why doesn't the State require the money be paid back to them as reimbursement for the case?  Sounds like a good idea to me!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on September 09, 2009, 09:14:22 PM
hello monkeys
i've been catching u and see that there is no good news for Zenaida as of yet....BUT, AND DON'T THROW NANNERS...this is just from what i understand...Slander only happens if people believe that it is true.  and maybe for the first three days of all this mess (after cindy called 911) people thought it was true...but when more came out, i didn't think some nanny named zanny did it...i thought (know in my heart) that casey did it.  so, maybe its a good thing that happened - the judge saying its a bs suit (now granted not good for Zenaida) because if no reasonable person ever though she was really involved, then its still saying casey was full of ::MonkeyGavel:: it from the beginning. 
I hope that makes some kind of sense.
::MonkeyWaa::
The employer who fired Zenaida apparently thought there was some truth to it....
i agree.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: very sad for Zenaida.  i do feel bad for her.. could she not draw unemployment?  what were the grounds of her firing?  i'm really not trying to be a poo;  there may be an upside to all of this as far as Caylee is concerned. ::MonkeyAngel::

As far as I remember she stated that her employer fired her  because he just did not want the negative publicity- she was a housekeeper at a Motel and obviously in a position of trust so he got rid of her while this was all swirling around at the start of the case.   Last I heard she was living in a Motel 6 as some kind of arrangement with homeless charity.  If she had unemployment I am sure it has all run out long time ago..   probably needs to be on welfare, poor lady, what a fix to be in... 

I should have added-  I haven't heard of her staying or dining at the Waldorf on crab cakes, cashing in family photos for $200K or jetting up to New York courtesy of 20/20 , ABC etc,
your right.  i agree.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 09, 2009, 09:17:01 PM
Another thing...I'm on a roll now-  ::MonkeyLaugh::  If Cindy, George or whoever..write a book and make money off this terrible situation-why doesn't the State require the money be paid back to them as reimbursement for the case?  Sounds like a good idea to me!

It would never fly, but I'd vote for that  ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Hiding Monkey on September 09, 2009, 09:21:36 PM
Another thing...I'm on a roll now-  ::MonkeyLaugh::  If Cindy, George or whoever..write a book and make money off this terrible situation-why doesn't the State require the money be paid back to them as reimbursement for the case?  Sounds like a good idea to me!

It would never fly, but I'd vote for that  ::MonkeyGavel::

Who knows?  Maybe a State should try it? I'm just sick of Casey and all her lies! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 09, 2009, 09:28:54 PM

Someone please tell me... when a judge misbehaves, he's gotta answer to someone, right? Who would that be?

Still catching up, so am not sure if this has been answered yet or not. 

In some states, it's called "The Office of Court Administration" or OCA.  In other states it's "The Administrative Office of the Courts" or AOC.  Same thing. 

Basically, from what I understand, this "Office" investigates complaints, handpicks the lawyers and presiding judge, can remove an elected or appointed judge, and does it all behind doors.   ::MonkeyRoll:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 09, 2009, 09:32:47 PM
::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer3::

Looks like you can rate the Judge here:

http://www.ratethecourts.com/judge.php?id=150880&which=judge

229 smart folks have voted him the worst of 2009.   ::MonkeyDance::

Can we revote tomorrow??  LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Hiding Monkey on September 09, 2009, 09:51:53 PM
Really quiet here!  I'd better go get some zzz's!  See you all later! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 09, 2009, 09:58:10 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/20820355/index.html

Civil Judge: Anthony P.I. Won't Testify
At a court hearing in Casey Anthony's civil case, attorneys representing Zenaida Gonzalez withdraw their request to get Anthony's parents to answer questions.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 09, 2009, 10:01:15 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-update-090909,0,165700.story

Video: Lawyers speak after the hearing today.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 10:01:24 PM
Hi Monkeys!!!  Missed ya!  My hubby sat down last night and was watching NG when this case was brought up.  He said " This case is still going on"?  I told him it hasn't gone to trial yet and it won't until 2010.  He said "Who's paying for all this"?  I said, "The taxpayers in Florida".  Of course he went on and on, as disgusted as I am.  The people need to realize this will affect their taxes!  I think if I were there I'd have to protest or something.  At least move it up to the 1st of the year.  Jose really has nothing more to contribute to her defense.  IMO the State has enough!  I wish a judge could listen to what both sides have and decide whether or not to move up or not!!  Any one else feel as disgusted as I do?

HIDING, this is so wrong on so many levels, till I am still in a tizzy.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

There seems to be no morality anymore in the judicial system. Everyone is so afraid to go to appeal and the state or US supreme courts that they tiptop around doing the right thing. It is completely out of control. I knew this over 20 years ago. It was heading for the dumper. It is only getting worse.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 10:11:16 PM
My gut tells me this judge does not want to jeopardize the criminal trial with the DP at play.. I still dont like him or his faux ruling

Dang!  Weren't they gonna try to use the ruling on this case for 'mitigating circumstances' in the DP in the criminal case? 



I think the mitagating circumstances are still on the table. The check fraud charges, God willing. Maybe she will go to the murder trial as a felon. I sure hope Amy keeps the steel in her backbone.

I hope Mitnick is still as mad as he was this afternoon. He and Morgan will know how to handle this misjustice today. Poor Zaneida.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: It could have been anybody. She was just another name pulled out of the hat and made the goat. It could have been Juliette Lewis, if she had been a real person, or "Zachery's" dad.
Evil, pure evil. Just like green slime. How many more people are going under because of Skanky and the Anthonys?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 09, 2009, 10:24:17 PM
::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer3::

Looks like you can rate the Judge here:

http://www.ratethecourts.com/judge.php?id=150880&which=judge

229 smart folks have voted him the worst of 2009.   ::MonkeyDance::

Can we revote tomorrow??  LOL


230 NOW!  I so enjoyed the additional comments section!   Wanna see? LOL 

His fear, lack of ability to decipher the law or set precedent in the Gonzalas vs Anthony case and his mocking of the plaintiff attorney, Mitnik on 9/9/09 was a disgrace to the legal profession.  In addition, he is denying Gonzalas a fair trial when he rudely cuts off and won't allow the plaintiffs' attorney to present his argument in open court, in chambers or even in camera.  The public is watching and judging Florida and he is not representing the state well at all.  He should recuse himself from this case. If he listened and cited law as a basis for his grandstanding, the public would feel justice is being served.  However, he is not.  He is disrespecting the very court in which he has vowed to honor the rights of litigants.

Ahhhhhhhhhhh, at least I made sure my voice was heard.  I


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 09, 2009, 10:29:02 PM
QUIET MONKEY, if you are hanging in the rafters, please come back. It was not all your fault. I miss you.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 09, 2009, 11:16:24 PM
A HA!   Mitnick as strategy give the Anthonys a pass, stating they can get the info by other means (put on notice Cindy)   Trust me, they have more reason to be nervous with this new decision by Morgan & Mitnick   ::MonkeyWink::

Please explain, I've been up since 4:30 am!!! Nuttin much is gellin!

They will depose others (hmm maybe Cindy's mother!) to get what they need, especially regarding Casey stealing & using Cindy's charge cards without permission

Capp- I like your confidence and glad you're back!  Actually, I believe Morgan & Mitnick will subpoena Cindy's affadavits to her bank & credit card companies, as well as Shirley Plesea's to her bank.  Both Cindy and Shirley may have signed notarized indemnity documents regarding Casey's check cashing and credit card fraud.  Irregardless, Morgan & Mitnick have Cindy's 911 calls reporting theft, her MySpace "My Caylee is Missing" ("...a daughter who stole lots of money..."), and the Anthonys' LE sworn statements detailing Casey's thievery.  They also have Shirley's , Rick Plesea's, and Cindy's e-mail exchanges on the thefts, as well.  Cindy & George have lied themselves into a corner on this.  To deny it, during any trial or sworn proceeding, is automatic perjury.  That's why they're working so hard to not answer basic questions.  They can hide behind Conway and play the "We're grieving grandparents" broken record all they want, but in the end, neither will protect them.
It's always fascinating to me...whenever anyone (reporter, interviewer, detective, opposition lawyer) confronts Cindy or George with a simple, basic question that the A's know will be detrimental to Casey, the A's always attack the person (rather than attack the evidence).  We have a saying in our family, "When you present the facts and people call you names and personally attack you...Rejoice, you've struck a nerve!  It's because it's all they've got to fight with."   ::MonkeyWink::   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 09, 2009, 11:36:28 PM
My gut tells me this judge does not want to jeopardize the criminal trial with the DP at play.. I still dont like him or his faux ruling

It seems he already had his mind mad up before Mitnick could even ask a question.   ::MonkeyMad::

I think so too.

Maybe he did not get his daily exercise earlier today jumping to conclusions so he had to fit some in?

Actually, Northern Rose, I think he jumped to so many conclusions prior to yesterday's hearing that he was too oxygen-deprived to to think cohesively today.   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 09, 2009, 11:40:01 PM
A HA!   Mitnick as strategy give the Anthonys a pass, stating they can get the info by other means (put on notice Cindy)   Trust me, they have more reason to be nervous with this new decision by Morgan & Mitnick   ::MonkeyWink::

Please explain, I've been up since 4:30 am!!! Nuttin much is gellin!

They will depose others (hmm maybe Cindy's mother!) to get what they need, especially regarding Casey stealing & using Cindy's charge cards without permission

Capp- I like your confidence and glad you're back!  Actually, I believe Morgan & Mitnick will subpoena Cindy's affadavits to her bank & credit card companies, as well as Shirley Plesea's to her bank.  Both Cindy and Shirley may have signed notarized indemnity documents regarding Casey's check cashing and credit card fraud.  Irregardless, Morgan & Mitnick have Cindy's 911 calls reporting theft, her MySpace "My Caylee is Missing" ("...a daughter who stole lots of money..."), and the Anthonys' LE sworn statements detailing Casey's thievery.  They also have Shirley's , Rick Plesea's, and Cindy's e-mail exchanges on the thefts, as well.  Cindy & George have lied themselves into a corner on this.  To deny it, during any trial or sworn proceeding, is automatic perjury.  That's why they're working so hard to not answer basic questions.  They can hide behind Conway and play the "We're grieving grandparents" broken record all they want, but in the end, neither will protect them.
It's always fascinating to me...whenever anyone (reporter, interviewer, detective, opposition lawyer) confronts Cindy or George with a simple, basic question that the A's know will be detrimental to Casey, the A's always attack the person (rather than attack the evidence).  We have a saying in our family, "When you present the facts and people call you names and personally attack you...Rejoice, you've struck a nerve!  It's because it's all they've got to fight with."   ::MonkeyWink::   

Great post!    Give this monkey the Blue Ribbon !   I LOVE it...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 09, 2009, 11:45:14 PM
WOW!    This judge is about to throw this case out

I have to agree Capp..this judge is not going to hear this case ever.  He doesn't want the case and is very against having to try this case before Casey's DP trial.  So when push comes to shove..he's gonna toss it. 

I really dislike this judge and find him creepy.  Meaning, I can't stand his soft voice...for some reason it reminds me of Lon Chaney  (for those old enough to remember him).  It sounds like the voice a serial sexual killer would have..just makes the hair at the back of my neck stand on end..like if I was in close proximity to him and he started with that whisperer voice ..I would be slowly backing away and then running like hell!

Of course this is just my humble opinion.

Gypsy DD-it's funny you should mention that.  I had a hard time listening to him yesterday.  I kept wanting to jump up and scream, "BE THE JUDGE!".  IMO, he uses the same tone one would when instructing Kindergartners...very patronizing.  At the same, he definitely bristles at any imagined slight to his authority.  Listening to his rhetoric is like being on a teeter-totter with a heavier person...every time they go up, you get "thumped".    He goes back and forth between patronizing instruction and authoritarian need to control.  He can't even let any of the lawyers finish their sentences.  He's too busy interrupting to "instruct", "direct", or "correct".  The man is flat rude. Judge or not, he needs to learn some manners.  I'd file a complaint if I were the defendant.  How can my attorney effectively represent me if he never gets to complete his argument OR rebuttal?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 09, 2009, 11:46:56 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/20820355/index.html

Civil Judge: Anthony P.I. Won't Testify
At a court hearing in Casey Anthony's civil case, attorneys representing Zenaida Gonzalez withdraw their request to get Anthony's parents to answer questions.

They already have them on tape lying to the FBI..  They have lied so much it would be hard to keep it all straight but  I have a feeling Mr Mitnik is up to the task. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 09, 2009, 11:57:25 PM
My gut tells me this judge does not want to jeopardize the criminal trial with the DP at play.. I still dont like him or his faux ruling

I used to think that .... I have my doubts about Rodriguez now.

Dont get me wrong, I think the judge is taking the easy way out, and Capp, I must have misheard the judge.. I thought he was dismissing it without predjudice.. or was that the questioning of DC?? These mo mo's have me all confused  ::MonkeyConfused::

The judge is referring to DC - but his warning to Mitnick that his decision regarding a stay or dismissal of the case coming sooner than he thought led me to believe he will throw the case out or stay it until after the murder trial BUT I totally disagree with how he insulted Keith Mitnic as well as made rulings that were NOT based on proof but rather opinion & not necessarily to the letter of the law


Isn't it interesting that Judge Rodriguez, who was judiciously concerned about Kaasen and Mitnick alluding to personal attacks against each other yesterday (per his frequent warnings in yesterday's hearing, "Let's not go there...", "Don't go down that road..." ), was more than comfortable engaging in personally attacking the prosecuting attorney?  Isn't it interesting, that Rodriguez was zealously adamant about preserving the integrity of the law..and yet, he refused to allow Mitnick the courtesy of completing his arguments without interruption and he denied him the right to present evidence to support his rebuttal?    IMO, Judge Rodriguez is a pathetic excuse for a judge.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 10, 2009, 12:00:08 AM
(http://i29.tinypic.com/aaasmc.jpg)

I'll try and get an email address, but this is all I have found.

Where does one go to complain about a judge and put his @ss in the hotseat?

State legislators, if judges are appointed, I do believe.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 10, 2009, 12:03:16 AM
Here's what I get the most annoyed about...The idea that George and Cindy are gloating over this "victory".  They believe they are above the law, and this so-called Judge Rodriguez has reinforced this notion.  I am mightily depressed at this juncture.
Where's the justice?  Caylee has paid for the Anthony's sense of entitlement with her life, Zenaida's reputation and that all of Casey's friends, (poor things,) has been tainted.
Everyone has an agenda, including those we are supposed to trust with, (and I quote,)"hearing and addressing our grievances," are incredibly biased. I can't bear the smug looks of Cindy and company.   I'm still::MonkeyMad::

Shame on them for gloating about something this trival compared to their granddaughter being murdered by their slore, but like I said they wont be smiling in the end.   Daughter be dam'd, how can they reconcile with themselves that they want to spare her after what she did to that precious beautiful babygirl?  During Casey's murder trial they will be skered on a stick!   I dont know how they live with themselves

Remember all those prescription bottles LE took in the Dec. search, all those bottles Cindy checked in for the Autopsy release  hearing?  Just saying...IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 10, 2009, 12:06:26 AM
One thing to keep in mind though, in the case that absolutely matters ALL of these scumbuckets will get theirs & the prosecution will see to it.  DC won this round but he has far from escaped his stupidity...same will be true of George, Cindy, Lee & Bozo

Justice will prevail for Caylee
::MonkeyJustice::

 ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice::




I really don't see that coming with the others.  Casey will get hers, but for now no charges are pending against the others..and if that would rear it's ugly head, then their attorneys will ask for immunity just like Lee's did in the past.  The prosecutions case in Caylee's death is about Casey.


Gypsy, what they will face is prejuring themselves - yes, there are no charges pending on them BUT they are not immuned to ever being charged with something including perjury at trial which is inevitable.   Their attorneys (both Conway & Luka)  did ask for full immunity & none of them have received it

I thought Lee got immunity which is why Luka said he is no longer Lee's attorney as he was no longer needed?   ::MonkeyConfused::

NR, that is my understanding as well. 

Lee Anthony To Face Tough Questions In Deposition
Posted: 6:05 am EDT July 30, 2009
Updated: 1:41 pm EDT July 30, 2009

<snipped>


At one point, there was concern that Lee Anthony may be charged with obstruction of justice because of contradicting statements he had given to sheriff's investigators in the past. Now that Lee Anthony has been granted immunity he does not have to worry about that any longer.

http://www.wftv.com/news/20222332/detail.html


I apologize in advance if this is beating a dead horse (no offense, horse lovers), but was it ever documented if that full or limited immunity?  TIA!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 10, 2009, 12:11:30 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-update-090909,0,165700.story

Video: Lawyers speak after the hearing today.

Ugh, I should have checked back in sooner, I was waiting on these. Thank you Tupelo!  ::MonkeyKiss::


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Post by: ISpy on September 10, 2009, 12:15:22 AM
Mr Mitnik was very methodical in his questioning about what contracts DC had and with whom and when.  When he asked DC about the psychic, did anyone else wonder when he was going to ask about a contract between DC and Lee?  IMO, DC was on the phone with Lee when he was poking in the ground near the sight of Caylee's remains.

ITA, Numbersgirl!  I'm wondering where the A's got the money to enter into contract with Dominic Casey since they bonded Casey out (documentation in this thread), but told Casey in August they didn't have the money to bond her out (August jail video).  They don't have large sums of money, then mysteriously they do, then they don't, then Cindy takes a leave of absence from her job, and then they do.  Lee has to move in to help with expenses (January) because Cindy & George aren't working, but then the A's have money to go to Ohio and the beach.  What is up with this?


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Post by: ISpy on September 10, 2009, 12:17:49 AM
One thing to keep in mind though, in the case that absolutely matters ALL of these scumbuckets will get theirs & the prosecution will see to it.  DC won this round but he has far from escaped his stupidity...same will be true of George, Cindy, Lee & Bozo

Justice will prevail for Caylee
::MonkeyJustice::

 ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice::




I really don't see that coming with the others.  Casey will get hers, but for now no charges are pending against the others..and if that would rear it's ugly head, then their attorneys will ask for immunity just like Lee's did in the past.  The prosecutions case in Caylee's death is about Casey.


Gypsy, what they will face is prejuring themselves - yes, there are no charges pending on them BUT they are not immuned to ever being charged with something including perjury at trial which is inevitable.   Their attorneys (both Conway & Luka)  did ask for full immunity & none of them have received it

I thought Lee got immunity which is why Luka said he is no longer Lee's attorney as he was no longer needed?   ::MonkeyConfused::

NR, that is my understanding as well. 

Lee Anthony To Face Tough Questions In Deposition
Posted: 6:05 am EDT July 30, 2009
Updated: 1:41 pm EDT July 30, 2009

<snipped>


At one point, there was concern that Lee Anthony may be charged with obstruction of justice because of contradicting statements he had given to sheriff's investigators in the past. Now that Lee Anthony has been granted immunity he does not have to worry about that any longer.

http://www.wftv.com/news/20222332/detail.html


Catching up - a few things.

THE JUDGE dismissed it for now WITHOUT PREJUDICE.  NOT WITH. (you heard correct FLmonkey!)

Lee was given USE IMMUNITY only that I have ever heard officially.  So yes, I am about to disagree with WFTV link above.  Use immunity protects him from prosecution from charges that the state learned of via his testimony.  It does NOT stop them from bringing charges in the future if he lies on the stand, etc.  It only limits them to the testimony.  I have posted on this several times - but if Lee said during his testimony he poured bleach in the back of the car because he was afraid his sister was involved.  The state can't prosecute him for that based on his testimony.  If after the trial or at any point really - a neighbor walks in and hands them a video tape of Lee pouring bleach in the car and telling cindy why he is doing it, etc - that would be information glee'ed from outside of that deposition and he could be charged based on that.  It (THE USE IMMUNITY)  ONLY protects him from his testimony during that deposition.
Back to reading...



Thanks, ANJM-for clarifying that with such a good example!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 10, 2009, 12:30:47 AM
hello monkeys
i've been catching u and see that there is no good news for Zenaida as of yet....BUT, AND DON'T THROW NANNERS...this is just from what i understand...Slander only happens if people believe that it is true.  and maybe for the first three days of all this mess (after cindy called 911) people thought it was true...but when more came out, i didn't think some nanny named zanny did it...i thought (know in my heart) that casey did it.  so, maybe its a good thing that happened - the judge saying its a bs suit (now granted not good for Zenaida) because if no reasonable person ever though she was really involved, then its still saying casey was full of ::MonkeyGavel:: it from the beginning. 
I hope that makes some kind of sense.
::MonkeyWaa::
The employer who fired Zenaida apparently thought there was some truth to it....

So did the landlord and every employer after that that who turned her down for a job.  IMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 10, 2009, 12:51:37 AM
Good evening/morning Northern Rose, Western *******, Magic Eyes and 5 Guests!  I'm sorry.  I didn't mean to ignore you or monopolize the conversation.  I was so busy reading & reacting that I just got caught up.  WOW!  Our monkeys certainly have a lot of passion for Caylee, Zenaida, justice, courtesy, and integrity.   ::MonkeyCool::  I bet Casey Anthony wishes she could garner that kind of support.  Isn't it ironic that thinking Caylee was "best-loved" and got all the attention, Casey killed her (IMO). Yet, even in death, Caylee is still "best-loved" (now by an even larger audience) and getting all the attention (by virtue of trial proceedings).  There's a quiet justice to that.  IMO


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Post by: ISpy on September 10, 2009, 12:53:56 AM
Thanks, everyone, for all the links and commentaries today and this evening.  Hope you have a good evening/morning!  Take care!


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Post by: Gizzie on September 10, 2009, 01:04:53 AM
Thanks, everyone, for all the links and commentaries today and this evening.  Hope you have a good evening/morning!  Take care!

Hope you have a good evening as well ISpy! Good night!  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 10, 2009, 01:09:53 AM
NEW BLINK POST (I'm a little late posting this):

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/09/09/cayleecasey-case-dominic-casey-takes-stand-in-zenaida-gonzalez-case/

Caylee/Casey Case: Dominic Casey Takes Stand in Zenaida Gonzalez Case


Thanks, Klaas!  Thanks also to Blink for documenting and pointing up those discrepancies!  Keep it comin', y'all!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 10, 2009, 01:12:26 AM
Thanks, Gizzie!  Hope you get a restful night's sleep!  I'm going to go do some research to calm myself down, so I can sleep!  LOL!  Those close to me keep warning me not to read here before bed- they keep telling me it keeps me up.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


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Post by: trimmonthelake on September 10, 2009, 06:35:15 AM
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Post by: trimmonthelake on September 10, 2009, 06:42:14 AM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20813959/detail.html
Civil Judge: Anthony P.I. Won't Testify
Casey Anthony Accused Of Defaming Woman Named Zenaida Gonzalez

POSTED: Wednesday, September 9, 2009
UPDATED: 7:32 pm EDT September 9, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- At a court hearing Wednesday afternoon in Casey Anthony's civil case, attorneys representing Zenaida Gonzalez withdrew their request to get Anthony's parents to answer questions.
Anthony, 23, remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were discovered in December. Anthony, who has pleaded not guilty, told investigators that she left Caylee with a baby sitter named Zenaida Gonzalez, but they were gone when she returned to pick up her daughter.

A woman with the same name as the baby sitter, whom investigators have said does not exist, has filed a defamation lawsuit against Anthony, seeking $15,000 in damages because of the link to the case.

The judge did rule that private investigator Dominic Casey would not have to sit down for a deposition.

Gonzalez's attorneys had hoped to question Casey about why he searched the woods where Caylee's remains were later found.

Casey fought the issue, claiming that he was working on behalf of Casey Anthony and that his comments are protected by attorney-client privilege.

Anthony's parents, George and Cindy Anthony, refused to respond to several questions when deposed by Gonzalez's attorneys, who wanted a judge to force the Anthonys to answer the questions.

Gonzalez's attorneys said Wednesday they can get information they were seeking from the Anthonys from other sources, such as police reports.
Gonzalez's attorneys have also withdrawn a written questionnaire to Casey Anthony, hoping the move will prevent the judge from delaying the civil case. The judge said at a hearing on Tuesday that it may be a month before he decides whether to postpone the civil case until the completion of Casey Anthony's murder trial, which is scheduled to begin next year.

During a hearing on Tuesday, the same judge ruled that he needs a month to decide whether to dismiss the lawsuit altogether.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 10, 2009, 06:47:26 AM
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m9d9-George-and-Cindy-Anthony-wont-be-required-to-answer-more-questions-in-defamation-suit
George and Cindy Anthony won't be required to answer more questions in defamation suit
September 9, 8:25 PMCrime ExaminerCindy Adams

On Wednesday, attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez dropped their request to have George and Cindy Anthony answer more questions regarding the defamation suit against their daughter, Casey Anthony.

During the couple’s initial depositions, each refused to answer certain questions asked of them. Zenaida’s lawyers said they have been able to garner the information from other sources including FBI tapes.
In the lawsuit, Zenaida claims her reputation was damaged as a result of Casey’s story that a nanny with her name took her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee.

Casey is charged with the first-degree murder of Caylee and her trial is scheduled to begin in June 2010.

Zenaida’s legal team also asked that the private investigator hired by the Anthony’s during the search for Caylee be required to sit for a deposition in the case. Dominic Casey argued he was covered by confidentiality agreements with the family and is not required to answer questions due to privilege.

The judge denied that motion.

On Tuesday, a judge postponed making a decision as to whether the defamation would be delayed until Casey’s criminal trial is completed.


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Post by: BooMonkey on September 10, 2009, 07:39:28 AM
Morning Monkeys!  Even tho yesterday's ruling was not what we hoped for in terms of justice for ZG, I really believe that all things work together for good. Somewhere down the line, we may be able to look back and say AHA! Now it makes sense. I also have faith in the Morgan firm, that one way or another, they will win against KC and ZG will be vindicated.

I'm praying that we will see the Anthony's smirks and smiles wiped from their faces and they will have to pay the price for what they have done. In the end, I believe that Caylee will be standing behind God at those pearly gates, shaking her little head and telling each one in her family how much they hurt her. Then God will close those gates and walk away with her little hand in his, leaving the Anthonys weeping in shame and bitterness.

Justice will be done, every one of those judges knows they are being scrutinized by lawyers, the judicial system and the public. We are watching every move!!

 ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: monkalicious on September 10, 2009, 08:00:40 AM
Morning Monkeys!  Even tho yesterday's ruling was not what we hoped for in terms of justice for ZG, I really believe that all things work together for good. Somewhere down the line, we may be able to look back and say AHA! Now it makes sense. I also have faith in the Morgan firm, that one way or another, they will win against KC and ZG will be vindicated.

I'm praying that we will see the Anthony's smirks and smiles wiped from their faces and they will have to pay the price for what they have done. In the end, I believe that Caylee will be standing behind God at those pearly gates, shaking her little head and telling each one in her family how much they hurt her. Then God will close those gates and walk away with her little hand in his, leaving the Anthonys weeping in shame and bitterness.

Justice will be done, every one of those judges knows they are being scrutinized by lawyers, the judicial system and the public. We are watching every move!!

 ::MonkeyAngel::
Good morining, Monkeys!  Boo, you are truly putting this into perspective for me.  I was so angry last night at the thought that the A's were getting away with something, (AGAIN!) that I was not focusing on the big picture.  This case is such a kaleidoscope, every time you turn around, the pattern changes and becomes something quite different.  I must have trust that there is a karmic justice, perhaps one we won't see clearly for a long time.  Thank you for helping me. 
P.S. I love me some Morgan and Mitnik. 


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Post by: monkalicious on September 10, 2009, 08:01:57 AM
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Good morning, Trimm.  I look forward to my wake up picture every morning. ::MonkeyCheer3::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BooMonkey on September 10, 2009, 08:17:46 AM
Morning Monkeys!  Even tho yesterday's ruling was not what we hoped for in terms of justice for ZG, I really believe that all things work together for good. Somewhere down the line, we may be able to look back and say AHA! Now it makes sense. I also have faith in the Morgan firm, that one way or another, they will win against KC and ZG will be vindicated.

I'm praying that we will see the Anthony's smirks and smiles wiped from their faces and they will have to pay the price for what they have done. In the end, I believe that Caylee will be standing behind God at those pearly gates, shaking her little head and telling each one in her family how much they hurt her. Then God will close those gates and walk away with her little hand in his, leaving the Anthonys weeping in shame and bitterness.

Justice will be done, every one of those judges knows they are being scrutinized by lawyers, the judicial system and the public. We are watching every move!!

 ::MonkeyAngel::
Good morining, Monkeys!  Boo, you are truly putting this into perspective for me.  I was so angry last night at the thought that the A's were getting away with something, (AGAIN!) that I was not focusing on the big picture.  This case is such a kaleidoscope, every time you turn around, the pattern changes and becomes something quite different.  I must have trust that there is a karmic justice, perhaps one we won't see clearly for a long time.  Thank you for helping me. 
P.S. I love me some Morgan and Mitnik. 

ITA Monk, if we look back on last year, we were all so worried about where she could have put the child. So many places for such a tiny body, then the death penalty being taken off the table, it was quite a gut wrencher for all of us. Then the water subsides and God allows her to be found and KC is no longer smirking and shaking her butt for the cameras. The rain that day was God's tears, but she was found. This trial may have it's twists and turns, but in the end we have to believe everything will work out. Caylee's little body is no longer alone in the cold water and dark woods and her mother's actions are brought to light. Evil people hate the light and the Anthonys have been cringing ever since! JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: monkalicious on September 10, 2009, 08:27:33 AM
Boo, I love how you put things.   ::MonkeyAngel:: "God's Tears"  That phrase is comforting, if you know what I mean.  It has taken me a long time to realize that the A's really don't give a rat's behind about what the "public" has to say, for all their much vaunted trolling of the internet for defamation.  As long as they have the authorities, (i.e. judges) in their pocket, why should they care?  Ultimately, they will have to account for themselves. Sometimes it's hard to accept, especially when us normal people are expected to maintain an acceptable level of societal behavior or be punished.  But I guess it's not up to me, huh?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BooMonkey on September 10, 2009, 08:32:43 AM
Boo, I love how you put things.   ::MonkeyAngel:: "God's Tears"  That phrase is comforting, if you know what I mean.  It has taken me a long time to realize that the A's really don't give a rat's behind about what the "public" has to say, for all their much vaunted trolling of the internet for defamation.  As long as they have the authorities, (i.e. judges) in their pocket, why should they care?  Ultimately, they will have to account for themselves. Sometimes it's hard to accept, especially when us normal people are expected to maintain an acceptable level of societal behavior or be punished.  But I guess it's not up to me, huh?

Yeah, it's hard to accept. It appears that the Ant's can destroy evidence, lie, cheat and make money off their dead granddaughter and we all are supposed to feel sorry for them. LE appears to be giving them a pass on anything that would throw our butts in jail. This judge appeared to be doing the girl atty's job for her yesterday including sustaining an emotion she hadn't quite got completely out of her mouth yesterday! But appearances can be deceiving and I pray that this all will come back to bite each one of them in the ass!!  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Jesse on September 10, 2009, 08:40:48 AM
i had such a headache after the hearing, but i agree those smirks that the A's carry around will be wiped away, as they WILL NOT be able to get out of testifying at the trial. All these antics that they are pulling now, will not be allowed in court by Stan. So maybe they are use to getting away with things now and being combative but in court with the jury it will not fly and they are really just setting themselves up. Right now they think they can do whatever they want and are use to that behavior but the jury will see thru that when they start their lies. I hope the prosecution calls them on every lie they told in their depo. In the end all the lies they have told to protect Casey will be what nails her.


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Post by: numbersgirl on September 10, 2009, 09:12:30 AM
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Good Morning Trimm and all Monkeys!

Trimm, I just love your "good morning" posts.  They are a day brightener for sure.    ::MonkeyAngel::


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Post by: Northern Rose on September 10, 2009, 09:20:58 AM
::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer3::

Looks like you can rate the Judge here:

http://www.ratethecourts.com/judge.php?id=150880&which=judge

229 smart folks have voted him the worst of 2009.   ::MonkeyDance::

Can we revote tomorrow??  LOL


It just allowed me to vote again.  Once a day is what it seems.  327 votes not for worst judge of 2009.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gypsy DD on September 10, 2009, 09:51:27 AM
i had such a headache after the hearing, but i agree those smirks that the A's carry around will be wiped away, as they WILL NOT be able to get out of testifying at the trial. All these antics that they are pulling now, will not be allowed in court by Stan. So maybe they are use to getting away with things now and being combative but in court with the jury it will not fly and they are really just setting themselves up. Right now they think they can do whatever they want and are use to that behavior but the jury will see thru that when they start their lies. I hope the prosecution calls them on every lie they told in their depo. In the end all the lies they have told to protect Casey will be what nails her.



Jesse I completely agree with you on this.  The A's are witnesses for the prosecution.  Hitting them up now, before trial, for perjury etc will not help the prosecution.  The A's will be on the stand in a court of law and that will be the difference between what they say now and then.  Remember, keep your friends close, your enemies even closer.  The prosecution would only be shooting itself in the foot to do anything to the A's before trial. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cherjers on September 10, 2009, 10:02:10 AM
hello monkeys
i've been catching u and see that there is no good news for Zenaida as of yet....BUT, AND DON'T THROW NANNERS...this is just from what i understand...Slander only happens if people believe that it is true.  and maybe for the first three days of all this mess (after cindy called 911) people thought it was true...but when more came out, i didn't think some nanny named zanny did it...i thought (know in my heart) that casey did it.  so, maybe its a good thing that happened - the judge saying its a bs suit (now granted not good for Zenaida) because if no reasonable person ever though she was really involved, then its still saying casey was full of ::MonkeyGavel:: it from the beginning. 
I hope that makes some kind of sense.
::MonkeyWaa::
The employer who fired Zenaida apparently thought there was some truth to it....
Good morning monkeys-Yes I agree ! she should get something.  Also have the ants in antville learnd thier lesson NO NO- they dont care who they hurt.  Jessie G- Tony- anyone does not matter as long as KC is protected.  They should have protected Caylee-they knew what a peice of s--t mother KC was-but they forced her to take Caylee out at night-why didnt they just say to the evil one --Live your life we will watch Caylee-dont take her out at night-They are GARBAGE-they dont care about anyone but themselves-and that is why no one cares about them-How is it you cant find pity for this family- (they have  lost a grandaughter)  no matter how much you try-I only pity Caylee-


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 10, 2009, 10:43:44 AM
I do not know if these have been posted before but the first one is quite interesting based on DC's testimony yesterday .

March 3, 2009 Declaration of Dominic Casey to Florida Bar
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10715409/Declaration-of-Dominic-Casey---FL-Bar

August 26, 2009 Letter from Florida Bar to John A. Weiss
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10627621/Casey-Anthony-FL-Bar-Association-letter-to-John-A-Weiss


August 26, 2009 Letter from Florida Bar to Dominic Casey
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10627614/Casey-Anthony-FL-Bar-Association-letter-to-Dominic-Casey



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Post by: CasuallyCool on September 10, 2009, 10:45:20 AM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 10, 2009, 10:48:37 AM
I do not know if these have been posted before but the first one is quite interesting based on DC's testimony yesterday .

March 3, 2009 Declaration of Dominic Casey to Florida Bar
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10715409/Declaration-of-Dominic-Casey---FL-Bar

August 26, 2009 Letter from Florida Bar to John A. Weiss
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10627621/Casey-Anthony-FL-Bar-Association-letter-to-John-A-Weiss


August 26, 2009 Letter from Florida Bar to Dominic Casey
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10627614/Casey-Anthony-FL-Bar-Association-letter-to-Dominic-Casey



If anyone is saving all the the docs please grab these fast.  No sooner did I post the links, the links vanished from D&A site.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 10, 2009, 10:57:36 AM
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Good Morning trim and Monks old and new.  My blood pressure is back to normal today and hope every one else's is a well. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 10, 2009, 11:06:35 AM
I do not know if these have been posted before but the first one is quite interesting based on DC's testimony yesterday .

March 3, 2009 Declaration of Dominic Casey to Florida Bar
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10715409/Declaration-of-Dominic-Casey---FL-Bar

August 26, 2009 Letter from Florida Bar to John A. Weiss
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10627621/Casey-Anthony-FL-Bar-Association-letter-to-John-A-Weiss


August 26, 2009 Letter from Florida Bar to Dominic Casey
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10627614/Casey-Anthony-FL-Bar-Association-letter-to-Dominic-Casey



Thanks NR, I have not seen these. I am hopeful that dc's declaration will be allowed in evidence at trial.  It looks like it was a he said vs he said and the sleazy bag won!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: akmom on September 10, 2009, 11:06:39 AM
Hi Monkeys,
   I am having such a hard time keeping up lately, so please forgive me if this has been discussed.  When Tracy talked about what Casey said about the shovel, I had a thought.  Casey supposedly said something about using it to knock down palm pods.  Are they poisonous?  Why would she want to knock them down?  Also wondering if any were found where sweet Caylee was found and if so I bet they could be genetically traced to the palms in the As back yard.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 10, 2009, 11:27:58 AM
Hi Monkeys,
   I am having such a hard time keeping up lately, so please forgive me if this has been discussed.  When Tracy talked about what Casey said about the shovel, I had a thought.  Casey supposedly said something about using it to knock down palm pods.  Are they poisonous?  Why would she want to knock them down?  Also wondering if any were found where sweet Caylee was found and if so I bet they could be genetically traced to the palms in the As back yard.

It wasn't palm fronds...it was bamboo roots.  Bamboo is very invasive. However, nothing short of a video of kc digging bamboo roots would make me believe that is what she wanted the shovel for.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: akmom on September 10, 2009, 11:34:31 AM
Hi Monkeys,
   I am having such a hard time keeping up lately, so please forgive me if this has been discussed.  When Tracy talked about what Casey said about the shovel, I had a thought.  Casey supposedly said something about using it to knock down palm pods.  Are they poisonous?  Why would she want to knock them down?  Also wondering if any were found where sweet Caylee was found and if so I bet they could be genetically traced to the palms in the As back yard.

It wasn't palm fronds...it was bamboo roots.  Bamboo is very invasive. However, nothing short of a video of kc digging bamboo roots would make me believe that is what she wanted the shovel for.

Hi Sunny, I know that bamboo is what Cindy originally said that Casey was digging with the shovel.  BUT, yesterday, NG played part of Tracy talking with LE and SHE said that Casey laughed at what LE had thought about what she did with the shovel.  Tracy said that Casey stated that she used the shovel to knock down palm pods and to get the ladder out of the pool.  Am checking on palm pods now.  Sago palm pods are extremely poisonous, but not sure if that is a FL type or not.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 10, 2009, 11:52:45 AM
Hi Monkeys,
   I am having such a hard time keeping up lately, so please forgive me if this has been discussed.  When Tracy talked about what Casey said about the shovel, I had a thought.  Casey supposedly said something about using it to knock down palm pods.  Are they poisonous?  Why would she want to knock them down?  Also wondering if any were found where sweet Caylee was found and if so I bet they could be genetically traced to the palms in the As back yard.

It wasn't palm fronds...it was bamboo roots.  Bamboo is very invasive. However, nothing short of a video of kc digging bamboo roots would make me believe that is what she wanted the shovel for.

Hi Sunny, I know that bamboo is what Cindy originally said that Casey was digging with the shovel.  BUT, yesterday, NG played part of Tracy talking with LE and SHE said that Casey laughed at what LE had thought about what she did with the shovel.  Tracy said that Casey stated that she used the shovel to knock down palm pods and to get the ladder out of the pool.  Am checking on palm pods now.  Sago palm pods are extremely poisonous, but not sure if that is a FL type or not.

Sorry, I do not recall Tracy saying that....but I believe you....however, this is from kc to Tracy so who knows if it's true or not. I am simply going on what the neighbor said.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19792171/detail.html

The same day last summer, neighbor Brian Burner said Anthony asked to borrow a shovel.

"Casey had approached me and said that she couldn't find the key to their shed and wanted to know if she – if I had a shovel she could borrow to dig up a bamboo root that she's been tripping over," Burner told investigators in an interview last July.


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Post by: CasuallyCool on September 10, 2009, 11:54:51 AM
In 2004 and 2005, Judge Rodriguez participated as a speaker on drugs, substance abuse, and prevention at parent/student gatherings sponsored by the Orange County Coalition for a Drug Free Community at Apopka High School (English), West Orange High School (English), and Colonial High School (Spanish).


Colonial HS?  Isn't there where whorseface attended?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: karenmamo on September 10, 2009, 11:55:35 AM
I do not know if these have been posted before but the first one is quite interesting based on DC's testimony yesterday .

March 3, 2009 Declaration of Dominic Casey to Florida Bar
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10715409/Declaration-of-Dominic-Casey---FL-Bar

August 26, 2009 Letter from Florida Bar to John A. Weiss
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10627621/Casey-Anthony-FL-Bar-Association-letter-to-John-A-Weiss


August 26, 2009 Letter from Florida Bar to Dominic Casey
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10627614/Casey-Anthony-FL-Bar-Association-letter-to-Dominic-Casey



Someone should question this ethics committee about their decision.  I just do not get this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: CasuallyCool on September 10, 2009, 12:05:38 PM
http://www.forthepeople.com/Gonzalez_Reply_to_Motion_for_Stay.pdf



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: akmom on September 10, 2009, 12:07:38 PM
Hi Monkeys,
   I am having such a hard time keeping up lately, so please forgive me if this has been discussed.  When Tracy talked about what Casey said about the shovel, I had a thought.  Casey supposedly said something about using it to knock down palm pods.  Are they poisonous?  Why would she want to knock them down?  Also wondering if any were found where sweet Caylee was found and if so I bet they could be genetically traced to the palms in the As back yard.

It wasn't palm fronds...it was bamboo roots.  Bamboo is very invasive. However, nothing short of a video of kc digging bamboo roots would make me believe that is what she wanted the shovel for.

Hi Sunny, I know that bamboo is what Cindy originally said that Casey was digging with the shovel.  BUT, yesterday, NG played part of Tracy talking with LE and SHE said that Casey laughed at what LE had thought about what she did with the shovel.  Tracy said that Casey stated that she used the shovel to knock down palm pods and to get the ladder out of the pool.  Am checking on palm pods now.  Sago palm pods are extremely poisonous, but not sure if that is a FL type or not.

Sorry, I do not recall Tracy saying that....but I believe you....however, this is from kc to Tracy so who knows if it's true or not. I am simply going on what the neighbor said.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19792171/detail.html

The same day last summer, neighbor Brian Burner said Anthony asked to borrow a shovel.

"Casey had approached me and said that she couldn't find the key to their shed and wanted to know if she – if I had a shovel she could borrow to dig up a bamboo root that she's been tripping over," Burner told investigators in an interview last July.

I knew she had said that about bamboo, that is why it really hit me when Tracy said palm pods.  If they are the poisonous type, it could be important.  I know at that point Caylee was most likely already gone.  BUT, if they were poisonous, Casey may have used some and then realized that Eagle Eye Cindy would notice they were gone.  They would have probably tried to keep them knocked off, as they would have been poisonous for the dogs.  Just thinking, also wondering if there were remnants of a pod found with Caylee that could be traced back to their yard.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 10, 2009, 12:12:03 PM
Here's what I get the most annoyed about...The idea that George and Cindy are gloating over this "victory".  They believe they are above the law, and this so-called Judge Rodriguez has reinforced this notion.  I am mightily depressed at this juncture.
Where's the justice?  Caylee has paid for the Anthony's sense of entitlement with her life, Zenaida's reputation and that all of Casey's friends, (poor things,) has been tainted.
Everyone has an agenda, including those we are supposed to trust with, (and I quote,)"hearing and addressing our grievances," are incredibly biased. I can't bear the smug looks of Cindy and company.   I'm still::MonkeyMad::

Shame on them for gloating about something this trival compared to their granddaughter being murdered by their slore, but like I said they wont be smiling in the end.   Daughter be dam'd, how can they reconcile with themselves that they want to spare her after what she did to that precious beautiful babygirl?  During Casey's murder trial they will be skered on a stick!   I dont know how they live with themselves

Remember all those prescription bottles LE took in the Dec. search, all those bottles Cindy checked in for the Autopsy release  hearing?  Just saying...IMO

Thanks for the reminder. I think that has helped them too along with believing the lies they make up about themselves also. I have a relative that is a terrible liar, but sometimes it's like he's convinced himself the lie is the truth. It's scary. He really does believe himself.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Miki Monkey on September 10, 2009, 12:12:47 PM
In 2004 and 2005, Judge Rodriguez participated as a speaker on drugs, substance abuse, and prevention at parent/student gatherings sponsored by the Orange County Coalition for a Drug Free Community at Apopka High School (English), West Orange High School (English), and Colonial High School (Spanish).


Colonial HS?  Isn't there where whorseface attended?



Yes, thats the one. She left in 2004 one credit short. What a coinkidink!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 10, 2009, 12:16:24 PM
Mr Mitnik was very methodical in his questioning about what contracts DC had and with whom and when.  When he asked DC about the psychic, did anyone else wonder when he was going to ask about a contract between DC and Lee?  IMO, DC was on the phone with Lee when he was poking in the ground near the sight of Caylee's remains.

ITA, Numbersgirl!  I'm wondering where the A's got the money to enter into contract with Dominic Casey since they bonded Casey out (documentation in this thread), but told Casey in August they didn't have the money to bond her out (August jail video).  They don't have large sums of money, then mysteriously they do, then they don't, then Cindy takes a leave of absence from her job, and then they do.  Lee has to move in to help with expenses (January) because Cindy & George aren't working, but then the A's have money to go to Ohio and the beach.  What is up with this?

Excellent observations Numbersgirl and ISpy!

Are the sickos from kidfinders still living with them? Or was that a short stay?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cookie on September 10, 2009, 12:19:14 PM
And George is not working any more either right? Cindy always appears to have on new clothes in court, hair freshly done...yet no one is working in the household...where is the money coming from?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 10, 2009, 12:20:48 PM
Mr Mitnik was very methodical in his questioning about what contracts DC had and with whom and when.  When he asked DC about the psychic, did anyone else wonder when he was going to ask about a contract between DC and Lee?  IMO, DC was on the phone with Lee when he was poking in the ground near the sight of Caylee's remains.

ITA, Numbersgirl!  I'm wondering where the A's got the money to enter into contract with Dominic Casey since they bonded Casey out (documentation in this thread), but told Casey in August they didn't have the money to bond her out (August jail video).  They don't have large sums of money, then mysteriously they do, then they don't, then Cindy takes a leave of absence from her job, and then they do.  Lee has to move in to help with expenses (January) because Cindy & George aren't working, but then the A's have money to go to Ohio and the beach.  What is up with this?

Excellent observations Numbersgirl and ISpy!

Are the sickos from kidfinders still living with them? Or was that a short stay?
I believe also Lee was on the phone with Dominic, and I don't know who said it, or what day it was, but someone here posted, that they felt the Anthonys and partners in crime, have done all this on purpose from the start, to cause reasonable doubt. Not the exact words, but to that effect. I couldn't agree more, this has been the game plan from the start. Everything has been orchestrated, granted not the best orchestration......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on September 10, 2009, 12:44:45 PM
Mr Mitnik was very methodical in his questioning about what contracts DC had and with whom and when.  When he asked DC about the psychic, did anyone else wonder when he was going to ask about a contract between DC and Lee?  IMO, DC was on the phone with Lee when he was poking in the ground near the sight of Caylee's remains.

ITA, Numbersgirl!  I'm wondering where the A's got the money to enter into contract with Dominic Casey since they bonded Casey out (documentation in this thread), but told Casey in August they didn't have the money to bond her out (August jail video).  They don't have large sums of money, then mysteriously they do, then they don't, then Cindy takes a leave of absence from her job, and then they do.  Lee has to move in to help with expenses (January) because Cindy & George aren't working, but then the A's have money to go to Ohio and the beach.  What is up with this?

Excellent observations Numbersgirl and ISpy!

Are the sickos from kidfinders still living with them? Or was that a short stay?
I believe also Lee was on the phone with Dominic, and I don't know who said it, or what day it was, but someone here posted, that they felt the Anthonys and partners in crime, have done all this on purpose from the start, to cause reasonable doubt. Not the exact words, but to that effect. I couldn't agree more, this has been the game plan from the start. Everything has been orchestrated, granted not the best orchestration......



She had help and she didn’t need to come up with a believeable story… she only needed to come up with a story that no one could put their finger on, a story no one could figure out, a story which held no facts laced with a web of lies by the entire family, all in an effort to keep her from receiving the death penalty.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 10, 2009, 12:52:18 PM
N2WISHN  exactly.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 10, 2009, 01:05:12 PM
In 2004 and 2005, Judge Rodriguez participated as a speaker on drugs, substance abuse, and prevention at parent/student gatherings sponsored by the Orange County Coalition for a Drug Free Community at Apopka High School (English), West Orange High School (English), and Colonial High School (Spanish).


Colonial HS?  Isn't there where whorseface attended?



I bet there was an auditorium full of fidgity, bored kids, if Rodriguez talked the way he does in court.   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 10, 2009, 01:06:44 PM
Boo, I love how you put things.   ::MonkeyAngel:: "God's Tears"  That phrase is comforting, if you know what I mean.  It has taken me a long time to realize that the A's really don't give a rat's behind about what the "public" has to say, for all their much vaunted trolling of the internet for defamation.  As long as they have the authorities, (i.e. judges) in their pocket, why should they care?  Ultimately, they will have to account for themselves. Sometimes it's hard to accept, especially when us normal people are expected to maintain an acceptable level of societal behavior or be punished.  But I guess it's not up to me, huh?

I love how Boo put that too. 

I am of the belief that the worst thing you can do is harm a child...and that if you do that "It would be better for him/her if a millstone were put around his/her neck and thrown into the sea." God hates it much more than we do and no one gets away with anything. God doesn't like injustice either. No one can right a wrong like He can.

We were talking about this yesterday and still today and I've been thinking about this subject in particular. I've been wondering what my fellow monkeys thoughts would be about it too. What if the anthonys get away with all this stuff? What if they walk away from this scott free?

I imagined what it would be like years down the road. They sucked at making friends before all of this. They sucked at relationships with their family. No one shows up for support of them but an old friend from Ohio who only stayed a little while and left. People who do come into their lives with the best of intentions end up leaving pretty quickly once they see the whole picture. The amount of friends they have now are very small compared to the amount of people who believe they have done evil and continue to. 

I can see Cindy continually convincing herself of the denial she lives in being the truth, but sooner or later that has gotta crack even the hardest coconut and send you to the funny farm. George and Lee have signs of a conscience...they all have society to live with plus the guilt.

The landfill they're still walking through will always carry a stink on them that can only be washed off one way... come clean, tell the truth, and honor that sweet little baby Caylee. Sit on Caylee's side of the courtroom and help put the monster away. They don't have to hate kc...they can still love her, but do the right thing. If they would do that, they'd have an army of support around them and could live with themselves...heal...and go on in life.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 10, 2009, 01:11:17 PM
Mr Mitnik was very methodical in his questioning about what contracts DC had and with whom and when.  When he asked DC about the psychic, did anyone else wonder when he was going to ask about a contract between DC and Lee?  IMO, DC was on the phone with Lee when he was poking in the ground near the sight of Caylee's remains.

ITA, Numbersgirl!  I'm wondering where the A's got the money to enter into contract with Dominic Casey since they bonded Casey out (documentation in this thread), but told Casey in August they didn't have the money to bond her out (August jail video).  They don't have large sums of money, then mysteriously they do, then they don't, then Cindy takes a leave of absence from her job, and then they do.  Lee has to move in to help with expenses (January) because Cindy & George aren't working, but then the A's have money to go to Ohio and the beach.  What is up with this?

Excellent observations Numbersgirl and ISpy!

Are the sickos from kidfinders still living with them? Or was that a short stay?
I believe also Lee was on the phone with Dominic, and I don't know who said it, or what day it was, but someone here posted, that they felt the Anthonys and partners in crime, have done all this on purpose from the start, to cause reasonable doubt. Not the exact words, but to that effect. I couldn't agree more, this has been the game plan from the start. Everything has been orchestrated, granted not the best orchestration......

Did anyone else notice that when Mitnick was asking who D Casey worked for the kept saying George and Spindy, but one time he threw in "The Anthony family, George, Spindy, and LEE." He threw him in there one time, almost like an afterthought. I thought Mitnick was trying to draw out the fact that he had talked to Lee, who was not mentioned as having an agreement, and D Casey saw where he was going and threw him in there. Work product!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 10, 2009, 01:15:40 PM
http://www.forthepeople.com/Gonzalez_Reply_to_Motion_for_Stay.pdf



Was this filed before or after the hearing yesterday?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 10, 2009, 01:19:23 PM
Boo, I love how you put things.   ::MonkeyAngel:: "God's Tears"  That phrase is comforting, if you know what I mean.  It has taken me a long time to realize that the A's really don't give a rat's behind about what the "public" has to say, for all their much vaunted trolling of the internet for defamation.  As long as they have the authorities, (i.e. judges) in their pocket, why should they care?  Ultimately, they will have to account for themselves. Sometimes it's hard to accept, especially when us normal people are expected to maintain an acceptable level of societal behavior or be punished.  But I guess it's not up to me, huh?

I love how Boo put that too. 

I am of the belief that the worst thing you can do is harm a child...and that if you do that "It would be better for him/her if a millstone were put around his/her neck and thrown into the sea." God hates it much more than we do and no one gets away with anything. God doesn't like injustice either. No one can right a wrong like He can.

We were talking about this yesterday and still today and I've been thinking about this subject in particular. I've been wondering what my fellow monkeys thoughts would be about it too. What if the anthonys get away with all this stuff? What if they walk away from this scott free?

I imagined what it would be like years down the road. They sucked at making friends before all of this. They sucked at relationships with their family. No one shows up for support of them but an old friend from Ohio who only stayed a little while and left. People who do come into their lives with the best of intentions end up leaving pretty quickly once they see the whole picture. The amount of friends they have now are very small compared to the amount of people who believe they have done evil and continue to. 

I can see Cindy continually convincing herself of the denial she lives in being the truth, but sooner or later that has gotta crack even the hardest coconut and send you to the funny farm. George and Lee have signs of a conscience...they all have society to live with plus the guilt.

The landfill they're still walking through will always carry a stink on them that can only be washed off one way... come clean, tell the truth, and honor that sweet little baby Caylee. Sit on Caylee's side of the courtroom and help put the monster away. They don't have to hate kc...they can still love her, but do the right thing. If they would do that, they'd have an army of support around them and could live with themselves...heal...and go on in life.

So well put, by both you and Boo.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 10, 2009, 01:20:04 PM
In 2004 and 2005, Judge Rodriguez participated as a speaker on drugs, substance abuse, and prevention at parent/student gatherings sponsored by the Orange County Coalition for a Drug Free Community at Apopka High School (English), West Orange High School (English), and Colonial High School (Spanish).


Colonial HS?  Isn't there where whorseface attended?



I bet there was an auditorium full of fidgity, bored kids, if Rodriguez talked the way he does in court.   ::MonkeyJnBox::

Lol. In my day that would have gotten kids stirred up to have a spitball competition...who could actually get one to hit him.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Jesse on September 10, 2009, 01:20:25 PM
it doesnt really matter how much the A's try to manufacture reasonable doubt, because Casey is on trial not them, and all her own words on video and on tape will be what does her in. Her own words. The public knows the A.s are liars, so what they say doesnt hold any weight, but what Casey said during her questioning and her little sunglass game when her daughter was missing and no mention of Caylees name when she was bonded out, are much stronger than any lies that the A.s could tell on national tv.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 10, 2009, 01:22:18 PM
Mr Mitnik was very methodical in his questioning about what contracts DC had and with whom and when.  When he asked DC about the psychic, did anyone else wonder when he was going to ask about a contract between DC and Lee?  IMO, DC was on the phone with Lee when he was poking in the ground near the sight of Caylee's remains.

ITA, Numbersgirl!  I'm wondering where the A's got the money to enter into contract with Dominic Casey since they bonded Casey out (documentation in this thread), but told Casey in August they didn't have the money to bond her out (August jail video).  They don't have large sums of money, then mysteriously they do, then they don't, then Cindy takes a leave of absence from her job, and then they do.  Lee has to move in to help with expenses (January) because Cindy & George aren't working, but then the A's have money to go to Ohio and the beach.  What is up with this?

Excellent observations Numbersgirl and ISpy!

Are the sickos from kidfinders still living with them? Or was that a short stay?
I believe also Lee was on the phone with Dominic, and I don't know who said it, or what day it was, but someone here posted, that they felt the Anthonys and partners in crime, have done all this on purpose from the start, to cause reasonable doubt. Not the exact words, but to that effect. I couldn't agree more, this has been the game plan from the start. Everything has been orchestrated, granted not the best orchestration......

Did anyone else notice that when Mitnick was asking who D Casey worked for the kept saying George and Spindy, but one time he threw in "The Anthony family, George, Spindy, and LEE." He threw him in there one time, almost like an afterthought. I thought Mitnick was trying to draw out the fact that he had talked to Lee, who was not mentioned as having an agreement, and D Casey saw where he was going and threw him in there. Work product!

NO...I missed it. I'm gonna have to watch that again. Great catch, Fanny!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 10, 2009, 01:22:41 PM
In 2004 and 2005, Judge Rodriguez participated as a speaker on drugs, substance abuse, and prevention at parent/student gatherings sponsored by the Orange County Coalition for a Drug Free Community at Apopka High School (English), West Orange High School (English), and Colonial High School (Spanish).


Colonial HS?  Isn't there where whorseface attended?



I bet there was an auditorium full of fidgity, bored kids, if Rodriguez talked the way he does in court.   ::MonkeyJnBox::

Lol. In my day that would have gotten kids stirred up to have a spitball competition...who could actually get one to hit him.

That's what I'm talking about!  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 10, 2009, 01:25:30 PM
it doesnt really matter how much the A's try to manufacture reasonable doubt, because Casey is on trial not them, and all her own words on video and on tape will be what does her in. Her own words. The public knows the A.s are liars, so what they say doesnt hold any weight, but what Casey said during her questioning and her little sunglass game when her daughter was missing and no mention of Caylees name when she was bonded out, are much stronger than any lies that the A.s could tell on national tv.

The 31 days, the party pics, the interviews with her friends, decomp in the trunk do it for me. All the rest after that is just gravy. She piled it on herself. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 10, 2009, 01:32:55 PM
In 2004 and 2005, Judge Rodriguez participated as a speaker on drugs, substance abuse, and prevention at parent/student gatherings sponsored by the Orange County Coalition for a Drug Free Community at Apopka High School (English), West Orange High School (English), and Colonial High School (Spanish).


Colonial HS?  Isn't there where whorseface attended?



Yes, thats the one. She left in 2004 one credit short. What a coinkidink!

So, the judge failed to make his message convincing to casey then and he is still having issues communicating! 

NRose - thanks for the docstoc link-  I copied DC's and I sure hope Morgan has seen this!!!!!!!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Jesse on September 10, 2009, 01:33:29 PM
it doesnt really matter how much the A's try to manufacture reasonable doubt, because Casey is on trial not them, and all her own words on video and on tape will be what does her in. Her own words. The public knows the A.s are liars, so what they say doesnt hold any weight, but what Casey said during her questioning and her little sunglass game when her daughter was missing and no mention of Caylees name when she was bonded out, are much stronger than any lies that the A.s could tell on national tv.


The 31 days, the party pics, the interviews with her friends, decomp in the trunk do it for me. All the rest after that is just gravy. She piled it on herself. JMO

*****************************

Exactly. There is so much more that we dont even know about that will surely hang her. I think the fact that the duct tape is so rare is a pretty good piece of evidence too, coupled with everything...she will at the very least spend the rest of her life in jail....as by the time trial comes, she will already be a convicted felon if they can make the fraud charges stick and again, she is on tape, she cant even say it wasnt her. She is the only one at target, at the bank..period


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Girlzrock on September 10, 2009, 01:36:01 PM
I do not know if these have been posted before but the first one is quite interesting based on DC's testimony yesterday .

March 3, 2009 Declaration of Dominic Casey to Florida Bar
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10715409/Declaration-of-Dominic-Casey---FL-Bar

August 26, 2009 Letter from Florida Bar to John A. Weiss
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10627621/Casey-Anthony-FL-Bar-Association-letter-to-John-A-Weiss


August 26, 2009 Letter from Florida Bar to Dominic Casey
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10627614/Casey-Anthony-FL-Bar-Association-letter-to-Dominic-Casey



Thank you, No Rose, I had not seen these...... (I am REALLY behind)

So... after Oct 1st, DC was not longer working for Baez?  His contract with CA and GA was from July of 2008 to present?  Where does the privilege come in, then, after Oct 1st?  He was working for the Anthonys (Lee is a party to the contract?  I wonder), but how does this imply privilege, if it is not Attorney- Client, he is just a PI, right?  Help!  I don't get it. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 10, 2009, 01:53:10 PM
Mr Mitnik was very methodical in his questioning about what contracts DC had and with whom and when.  When he asked DC about the psychic, did anyone else wonder when he was going to ask about a contract between DC and Lee?  IMO, DC was on the phone with Lee when he was poking in the ground near the sight of Caylee's remains.

ITA, Numbersgirl!  I'm wondering where the A's got the money to enter into contract with Dominic Casey since they bonded Casey out (documentation in this thread), but told Casey in August they didn't have the money to bond her out (August jail video).  They don't have large sums of money, then mysteriously they do, then they don't, then Cindy takes a leave of absence from her job, and then they do.  Lee has to move in to help with expenses (January) because Cindy & George aren't working, but then the A's have money to go to Ohio and the beach.  What is up with this?

Excellent observations Numbersgirl and ISpy!

Are the sickos from kidfinders still living with them? Or was that a short stay?
I believe also Lee was on the phone with Dominic, and I don't know who said it, or what day it was, but someone here posted, that they felt the Anthonys and partners in crime, have done all this on purpose from the start, to cause reasonable doubt. Not the exact words, but to that effect. I couldn't agree more, this has been the game plan from the start. Everything has been orchestrated, granted not the best orchestration......

Morning everyone

They are living off the kindness of others & the media's willingness to pay to get the scoop, murder is a story for ratings (sad but true) & this case a novelist would be hard pressed to imagine, fact not fiction!  ::pause waiting for wave of nauseousness to pass ::  

Add to that Tracey's interview with FBI/OCSO not only that George blurted out that he didnt want to live this lie BUT more telling was Casey's comments heard by Tracey & Rob firsthand.   A few of her excuses/omissions/diversions were glaring & very typical of a sociopath with narcissistic tendencies.  Lenny, hit the nail on the head when he said that everything she says has a ring of a truth in it somewhere, the statement about the shovel in particular where Casey offers an excuse about the bamboo & then volunteers that she used it to move the pool ladder with Cindy right there to tell her to shut up proves Casey's guilt and the Anthonys knew it as Cindy would say "from day one."

The fact that Cindy and Lee sent Dominic Casey into those particular woods with a probe & shovel no less, seals my belief that they were told where to find Caylee by Casey & were part of concealing the fact that she murdered Caylee.  Also, look to how earnest Cindy pushes blame for wrong doings upon others including the very people that were trying to help them & solve Caylee's what was said to be "abduction" when actually everyone knew was murder at least by the day Casey's car was picked up at the tow yard.  While there Cindy is belligerent with the manager, George volunteers his difficulties with his daughter & that he hasnt seen his granddaughter BEFORE they get to the car...hmm.   Later stories of Casey refusing to let them see Caylee yet they saw Casey & argued with her over stolen gas cans...hmm.   Cindy goes on her own to pick of Casey at Tony's realizing then that Caylee was not with Casey, another opportunity police could have been called right then and there but no she drags her home instead & admits that she drove around with her awhile after dropping off Amy.  Why didnt Cindy insist on at least talking to "Zanny" if Casey's excuse not to "wake Caylee" was valid so Cindy could rest easier...notice that option was never discussed or covered up.  As a parent yourselves, you all instinctively know you would insist on some sort of reassuring contact & never settle for less.   I still say there is a chance that Cindy's 911 calls were staged & she knew before - even the excuses as to why they did not receive the notice from the tow yard seems bogus.  What they did immediately following discovering the condition of the car is extremely telling as well, they knew right then and there something horrid happened to Caylee & Casey was responsible because otherwise they would have called 911 right then and there at the tow yard.   In essence after Casey  committed her evil she started the concert & Cindy has been attempting to orchestrate the finale with crashing cymbals, the snares of a drum & broken violin strings.    Isnt' it kinda ironic that an item found in their house & part of Casey's heinous crime is what I would like to use to permanently silence them along with their murdering slore, Henkel duct tape.   After much frustration I then pause knowing Casey will answer for her crimes & her family will continue in a living hell even if they don't face criminal charges along with her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 10, 2009, 02:01:08 PM
I do not know if these have been posted before but the first one is quite interesting based on DC's testimony yesterday .

March 3, 2009 Declaration of Dominic Casey to Florida Bar
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10715409/Declaration-of-Dominic-Casey---FL-Bar

August 26, 2009 Letter from Florida Bar to John A. Weiss
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10627621/Casey-Anthony-FL-Bar-Association-letter-to-John-A-Weiss


August 26, 2009 Letter from Florida Bar to Dominic Casey
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10627614/Casey-Anthony-FL-Bar-Association-letter-to-Dominic-Casey



Thank you, No Rose, I had not seen these...... (I am REALLY behind)

So... after Oct 1st, DC was not longer working for Baez?  His contract with CA and GA was from July of 2008 to present?  Where does the privilege come in, then, after Oct 1st?  He was working for the Anthonys (Lee is a party to the contract?  I wonder), but how does this imply privilege, if it is not Attorney- Client, he is just a PI, right?  Help!  I don't get it. 

After the way the sleezy PI was able to slide through yesterday, I almost felt good to see the Florida Bar slap him down in these documents.  ::MonkeyTongue::


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Post by: Fanny Mae on September 10, 2009, 02:08:52 PM
CAPP, I hope you are feeling better and better every day.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I do agree with your post. I think they knew by at least June 15, and it was coverup and diffuse and point things in another direction from then on. I wouldn't have been riding around in the car "chatting" after leaving Amy. How twisted all the Anthonys think is mind boggling in so many ways. JMO


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Post by: Fanny Mae on September 10, 2009, 02:21:29 PM
CAPP, I hope you are feeling better and better every day.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I do agree with your post. I think they knew by at least June 15JULY 15 and it was coverup and diffuse and point things in another direction from then on. I wouldn't have been riding around in the car "chatting" after leaving Amy. How twisted all the Anthonys think is mind boggling in so many ways. JMO

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Post by: Cappuccino on September 10, 2009, 02:21:36 PM
I do not know if these have been posted before but the first one is quite interesting based on DC's testimony yesterday .

March 3, 2009 Declaration of Dominic Casey to Florida Bar
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10715409/Declaration-of-Dominic-Casey---FL-Bar

August 26, 2009 Letter from Florida Bar to John A. Weiss
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10627621/Casey-Anthony-FL-Bar-Association-letter-to-John-A-Weiss


August 26, 2009 Letter from Florida Bar to Dominic Casey
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10627614/Casey-Anthony-FL-Bar-Association-letter-to-Dominic-Casey



Thank you, No Rose, I had not seen these...... (I am REALLY behind)

So... after Oct 1st, DC was not longer working for Baez?  His contract with CA and GA was from July of 2008 to present?  Where does the privilege come in, then, after Oct 1st?  He was working for the Anthonys (Lee is a party to the contract?  I wonder), but how does this imply privilege, if it is not Attorney- Client, he is just a PI, right?  Help!  I don't get it. 

After the way the sleezy PI was able to slide through yesterday, I almost felt good to see the Florida Bar slap him down in these documents.  ::MonkeyTongue::

Actually, in other words the Florida Bar took Bozo's word for it upon a conversation...wow!   Sorry for having to say this but what is with the Florida judicial system...yet another body not asking to see proofs such as contracts & proof of payment/invoice or other pertinent documentation.   I'm mystified, where I come from asking for that documentation should be anticipated by all parties & fully expected to be produced in open court at hearing or before a determination/ruling is made at the bench, during arbitration or otherwise.   

On the issue of what Dominic Casey accuses Bozo of telling him in advance of finding a body, hellooo he is admitting that they discussed locating where Caylee's remains were, my God its crystal clear!  Its even more obvious that the Anthonys sent him to Suburban Drive with a probe & shovel grrrrrr   ::MonkeyMad::


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Post by: NickandNora on September 10, 2009, 02:22:30 PM
I do not know if these have been posted before but the first one is quite interesting based on DC's testimony yesterday .

March 3, 2009 Declaration of Dominic Casey to Florida Bar
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10715409/Declaration-of-Dominic-Casey---FL-Bar

August 26, 2009 Letter from Florida Bar to John A. Weiss
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10627621/Casey-Anthony-FL-Bar-Association-letter-to-John-A-Weiss


August 26, 2009 Letter from Florida Bar to Dominic Casey
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10627614/Casey-Anthony-FL-Bar-Association-letter-to-Dominic-Casey



Thank you, No Rose, I had not seen these...... (I am REALLY behind)

So... after Oct 1st, DC was not longer working for Baez?  His contract with CA and GA was from July of 2008 to present?  Where does the privilege come in, then, after Oct 1st?  He was working for the Anthonys (Lee is a party to the contract?  I wonder), but how does this imply privilege, if it is not Attorney- Client, he is just a PI, right?  Help!  I don't get it. 

After the way the sleezy PI was able to slide through yesterday, I almost felt good to see the Florida Bar slap him down in these documents.  ::MonkeyTongue::

Thanks for the links, No Rose.

He was sleazy and slimy yesterday wasn't he Fanny....ewwww. It's a wonder he didn't slide right out of his seat!

I don't understand how that's privileged info either. I'm going to do a little research and see if I can find out how that works.


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Post by: Cappuccino on September 10, 2009, 02:27:44 PM
Tks much Fanny, bless your heart.   Im getting stronger every day & grateful for surviving quite a kick in the bum  ::MonkeyHaHa::



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Post by: crazybabyborg on September 10, 2009, 02:38:39 PM
I do not know if these have been posted before but the first one is quite interesting based on DC's testimony yesterday .

March 3, 2009 Declaration of Dominic Casey to Florida Bar
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10715409/Declaration-of-Dominic-Casey---FL-Bar

August 26, 2009 Letter from Florida Bar to John A. Weiss
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10627621/Casey-Anthony-FL-Bar-Association-letter-to-John-A-Weiss


August 26, 2009 Letter from Florida Bar to Dominic Casey
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10627614/Casey-Anthony-FL-Bar-Association-letter-to-Dominic-Casey



Thanks for the links, NR! I didn't get to watch the hearing yesterday, and I missed you guys!  I'm catching up now though! CASY'S GOING DOWN!!!!    ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: chrisk49 on September 10, 2009, 02:40:50 PM
It always amazed me that when Casey was out on bail that she didn't make one of those tv appearances where she cries and begs the "Nanny" to bring her back!   She never complained to Tracy, Rob or anybody about the "Nanny" having Caylee for so long or hoping she was ok etc.  Absolutely no talk of Caylee, now that says alot to me.


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Post by: Jesse on September 10, 2009, 02:51:24 PM
It always amazed me that when Casey was out on bail that she didn't make one of those tv appearances where she cries and begs the "Nanny" to bring her back!   She never complained to Tracy, Rob or anybody about the "Nanny" having Caylee for so long or hoping she was ok etc.  Absolutely no talk of Caylee, now that says alot to me.
 
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it will say alot to everyone and all the phony crying that she may do during the trial will not save her, once they hear and see the jail house videos and listen to her speak as if she has not one care in the world while her daughter is missing will all come to the same conclusion....strap her in


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Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 10, 2009, 03:16:28 PM
I am beginning to think also the 911 call was staged also.


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Post by: Jesse on September 10, 2009, 03:19:27 PM
I am beginning to think also the 911 call was staged also.

************************

i dont know, Cindy sounded the most upset about this that i have heard from her so far and i dont think she would have said dead body, do you? I mean who knows with these crazy people


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 10, 2009, 03:19:55 PM
I am beginning to think also the 911 call was staged also.

Yup NoRose, listen to how they escalate & then think about all the things we now know surrounding them, especially the day & evening of July 15th - as I said its been my suspicion from the very beginning as posts here & elsewhere indicated back in July/August.


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Post by: N2WISHN on September 10, 2009, 03:21:36 PM
I am beginning to think also the 911 call was staged also.



My money is on GA being the first to know. It seems to me that somebody took KC back to Amscot……….And CA was in the loop by the time she washed the evidence…….


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Post by: SunnyinTX on September 10, 2009, 03:29:24 PM
I am beginning to think also the 911 call was staged also.

nrcg - usually we agree but not this time. I don't think even drama queen sin-sin could act that well. IMO there was really stress and fear in her voice when she said, 'it smells like there's been a dead body in it.'

What makes you think this is a possibility?


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Post by: SunnyinTX on September 10, 2009, 03:35:23 PM
It always amazed me that when Casey was out on bail that she didn't make one of those tv appearances where she cries and begs the "Nanny" to bring her back!   She never complained to Tracy, Rob or anybody about the "Nanny" having Caylee for so long or hoping she was ok etc.  Absolutely no talk of Caylee, now that says alot to me.
 
******************************
it will say alot to everyone and all the phony crying that she may do during the trial will not save her, once they hear and see the jail house videos and listen to her speak as if she has not one care in the world while her daughter is missing will all come to the same conclusion....strap her in

I can honestly say I have never seen kc REALLY cry...the closest she came to real tears IMO was the last court appearance.  That first court appearance when she turned around and looked at the camera and pretended to sob...OHMYGAWD!  I am not a crier, but I could have done a better job of faking it!  And then the day in front of BOZO's office....hell anyone can poke their finger in their eye and make a tear, especially contact lenses wearers.....tears don't equal crying!!   She is one cold and hard biotch.....I would have been crying and wailing had it been me the night they arrested her at home......she walked out so smug and as if to say...soooooo!!   JMO of course


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 10, 2009, 03:41:51 PM
I am beginning to think also the 911 call was staged also.

nrcg - usually we agree but not this time. I don't think even drama queen sin-sin could act that well. IMO there was really stress and fear in her voice when she said, 'it smells like there's been a dead body in it.'

What makes you think this is a possibility?
Because of the fact that the tow yard man smelled the trunk, and what George and him all said to each other, they figured he would be suspicious, so there was no choice but to call 911. I go back and forth with this part of it  ::MonkeyConfused:: Cindy did sound real in the phone call I agree, but it could all have been an act, or she really was afraid, and then George told her everything, and then the charade began. I'm just thinking all of this has been one long disgusting charade.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 10, 2009, 03:43:38 PM
I am beginning to think also the 911 call was staged also.

nrcg - usually we agree but not this time. I don't think even drama queen sin-sin could act that well. IMO there was really stress and fear in her voice when she said, 'it smells like there's been a dead body in it.'

What makes you think this is a possibility?

Trying to frame someone else  


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Post by: tupelohoney on September 10, 2009, 04:00:56 PM
I've been looking around and came across this slideshow that Casey created. Some of the pics we have seen before but she has added her own captions. Too bad the mystery guy with the tattoos isn't in here.   http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68989&page=6


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 10, 2009, 04:12:58 PM
I've been looking around and came across this slideshow that Casey created. Some of the pics we have seen before but she has added her own captions. Too bad the mystery guy with the tattoos isn't in here.   http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68989&page=6

Yep, I guess we would finally know his name.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 10, 2009, 04:20:47 PM
I am beginning to think also the 911 call was staged also.

nrcg - usually we agree but not this time. I don't think even drama queen sin-sin could act that well. IMO there was really stress and fear in her voice when she said, 'it smells like there's been a dead body in it.'

What makes you think this is a possibility?
Because of the fact that the tow yard man smelled the trunk, and what George and him all said to each other, they figured he would be suspicious, so there was no choice but to call 911. I go back and forth with this part of it  ::MonkeyConfused:: Cindy did sound real in the phone call I agree, but it could all have been an act, or she really was afraid, and then George told her everything, and then the charade began. I'm just thinking all of this has been one long disgusting charade.

I see where your thinking is.  I could never understand why the police weren't called immediately. And because they weren't called,  I think George never thought the tow yard guy would contact the police. But at that point, I really don't think that georgie actually thought or allowed himself to think it really might be Caylee.  I could of course be wrong....but it's what I think  or possibly hope.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 10, 2009, 04:25:13 PM
It always amazed me that when Casey was out on bail that she didn't make one of those tv appearances where she cries and begs the "Nanny" to bring her back!   She never complained to Tracy, Rob or anybody about the "Nanny" having Caylee for so long or hoping she was ok etc.  Absolutely no talk of Caylee, now that says alot to me.
 
******************************
it will say alot to everyone and all the phony crying that she may do during the trial will not save her, once they hear and see the jail house videos and listen to her speak as if she has not one care in the world while her daughter is missing will all come to the same conclusion....strap her in

I can honestly say I have never seen kc REALLY cry...the closest she came to real tears IMO was the last court appearance.  That first court appearance when she turned around and looked at the camera and pretended to sob...OHMYGAWD!  I am not a crier, but I could have done a better job of faking it!  And then the day in front of BOZO's office....hell anyone can poke their finger in their eye and make a tear, especially contact lenses wearers.....tears don't equal crying!!   She is one cold and hard biotch.....I would have been crying and wailing had it been me the night they arrested her at home......she walked out so smug and as if to say...soooooo!!   JMO of course

I have seen that fake sob at the hearing as she looked at the camera so many times, I can make the same face and sob in unison with her.   ::MonkeyDevil2::

I guess someone that really has no feelings or compassion just doesn't know how to cry.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Jesse on September 10, 2009, 04:36:00 PM
The only times Casey has cried is when it had to do with her. I tried real hard to see any tears when George took the stand, her nose did turn red so i do think she was crying, but normally its when its about her, never cried about Caylee when she was home. Boy you wouldnt even be able to get me out of bed i would be crying so hard if my baby went missing, but not Casey, she is flirting with anyone around, including bozo


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 10, 2009, 04:43:37 PM
The only times Casey has cried is when it had to do with her. I tried real hard to see any tears when George took the stand, her nose did turn red so i do think she was crying, but normally its when its about her, never cried about Caylee when she was home. Boy you wouldnt even be able to get me out of bed i would be crying so hard if my baby went missing, but not Casey, she is flirting with anyone around, including bozo

And thinking about going on Howard Stearn's show. Ack!  ::MonkeyNoNo::


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Post by: Jesse on September 10, 2009, 04:48:54 PM
That was hillarious....Howard Stern, she was afraid he would ask her if Bozo was "hitting" it...ewwwwwwwww


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Post by: crazybabyborg on September 10, 2009, 04:49:37 PM
The only times Casey has cried is when it had to do with her. I tried real hard to see any tears when George took the stand, her nose did turn red so i do think she was crying, but normally its when its about her, never cried about Caylee when she was home. Boy you wouldnt even be able to get me out of bed i would be crying so hard if my baby went missing, but not Casey, she is flirting with anyone around, including bozo

Hi Monkeys!

I agree with that, Jesse! Even in the jail videos, Casey cries when she's screaming that "Everything's been taken from me!" When Cindy asks about Caylee, there's not even a pretense of tears.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Brandi on September 10, 2009, 04:51:51 PM
it doesnt really matter how much the A's try to manufacture reasonable doubt, because Casey is on trial not them, and all her own words on video and on tape will be what does her in. Her own words. The public knows the A.s are liars, so what they say doesnt hold any weight, but what Casey said during her questioning and her little sunglass game when her daughter was missing and no mention of Caylees name when she was bonded out, are much stronger than any lies that the A.s could tell on national tv.

The 31 days, the party pics, the interviews with her friends, decomp in the trunk do it for me. All the rest after that is just gravy. She piled it on herself. JMO
Yup! Yup!

Justice is coming.

It's a slow trip, but I believe it will arrive.


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Post by: trimmonthelake on September 10, 2009, 04:54:14 PM
The only times Casey has cried is when it had to do with her. I tried real hard to see any tears when George took the stand, her nose did turn red so i do think she was crying, but normally its when its about her, never cried about Caylee when she was home. Boy you wouldnt even be able to get me out of bed i would be crying so hard if my baby went missing, but not Casey, she is flirting with anyone around, including bozo

And thinking about going on Howard Stearn's show. Ack!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

 :pukel:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Brandi on September 10, 2009, 04:54:42 PM
I am beginning to think also the 911 call was staged also.

Yup NoRose, listen to how they escalate & then think about all the things we now know surrounding them, especially the day & evening of July 15th - as I said its been my suspicion from the very beginning as posts here & elsewhere indicated back in July/August.


I have often thought that the 911 call was one of Cindy's best acting performances to date.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 10, 2009, 04:55:07 PM
it doesnt really matter how much the A's try to manufacture reasonable doubt, because Casey is on trial not them, and all her own words on video and on tape will be what does her in. Her own words. The public knows the A.s are liars, so what they say doesnt hold any weight, but what Casey said during her questioning and her little sunglass game when her daughter was missing and no mention of Caylees name when she was bonded out, are much stronger than any lies that the A.s could tell on national tv.

The 31 days, the party pics, the interviews with her friends, decomp in the trunk do it for me. All the rest after that is just gravy. She piled it on herself. JMO
Yup! Yup!

Justice is coming.

It's a slow trip, but I believe it will arrive.

I think so too,Brandi.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 10, 2009, 05:01:29 PM
it doesnt really matter how much the A's try to manufacture reasonable doubt, because Casey is on trial not them, and all her own words on video and on tape will be what does her in. Her own words. The public knows the A.s are liars, so what they say doesnt hold any weight, but what Casey said during her questioning and her little sunglass game when her daughter was missing and no mention of Caylees name when she was bonded out, are much stronger than any lies that the A.s could tell on national tv.

The 31 days, the party pics, the interviews with her friends, decomp in the trunk do it for me. All the rest after that is just gravy. She piled it on herself. JMO
Yup! Yup!

Justice is coming.

It's a slow trip, but I believe it will arrive.

I think so too,Brandi.

I hope Skanky doesn't luck out and get Rodriguez or someone of his ilk for the judge. I am praying for Stan's good health and he is the one to hear her murder trial. He may be retired by then, if it keeps getting postponed. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Brandi on September 10, 2009, 05:15:01 PM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/caylee-x.gif)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 10, 2009, 05:21:40 PM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/caylee-x.gif)



Another beautiful one, BRANDI.  ::MonkeyAngel::
Caylee was such a cute little thing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 10, 2009, 05:23:01 PM
I am beginning to think also the 911 call was staged also.

I have always thought they were staged to some degree myself.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 10, 2009, 05:27:46 PM
I am beginning to think also the 911 call was staged also.

I have always thought they were staged to some degree myself.
Can't quite put my finger on any of the activity that these dreadful people have been up too, I only know just looking at them and reading their comments and statements, and anything else they blabber makes me want to take a shower too get rid of the filth  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 10, 2009, 05:35:55 PM
I do not know if these have been posted before but the first one is quite interesting based on DC's testimony yesterday .

March 3, 2009 Declaration of Dominic Casey to Florida Bar
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10715409/Declaration-of-Dominic-Casey---FL-Bar

August 26, 2009 Letter from Florida Bar to John A. Weiss
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10627621/Casey-Anthony-FL-Bar-Association-letter-to-John-A-Weiss


August 26, 2009 Letter from Florida Bar to Dominic Casey
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10627614/Casey-Anthony-FL-Bar-Association-letter-to-Dominic-Casey



Thanks for the links, NR! I didn't get to watch the hearing yesterday, and I missed you guys!  I'm catching up now though! CASY'S GOING DOWN!!!!    ::MonkeyWink::

Oh yeah,she's going down.   ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 10, 2009, 05:48:22 PM
I do not know if these have been posted before but the first one is quite interesting based on DC's testimony yesterday .

March 3, 2009 Declaration of Dominic Casey to Florida Bar
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10715409/Declaration-of-Dominic-Casey---FL-Bar

August 26, 2009 Letter from Florida Bar to John A. Weiss
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10627621/Casey-Anthony-FL-Bar-Association-letter-to-John-A-Weiss


August 26, 2009 Letter from Florida Bar to Dominic Casey
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10627614/Casey-Anthony-FL-Bar-Association-letter-to-Dominic-Casey



Yes,  it surely is.  I believe Dominic Casey's statement herewith.  Thank you for posting.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 10, 2009, 05:53:04 PM
::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer3::

Looks like you can rate the Judge here:

http://www.ratethecourts.com/judge.php?id=150880&which=judge

229 smart folks have voted him the worst of 2009.   ::MonkeyDance::

Can we revote tomorrow??  LOL


It just allowed me to vote again.  Once a day is what it seems.  327 votes not for worst judge of 2009.

Thanks for letting us know we can revote!  It's up to 471 now!   ::MonkeyCheer3::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 10, 2009, 06:07:01 PM
Beautiful pic Brandi  ::MonkeyCool::


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Post by: Ono on September 10, 2009, 06:13:13 PM
http://www.forthepeople.com/Gonzalez_Reply_to_Motion_for_Stay.pdf



Appreciate your posting this.  If I was Zenaida, I would surely want my name cleared, and in a timely manner.  It's almost too late for timely, however.  I would suspect that Judge Rodriguez would also, if he found himself in her predicament.  In fact, he would be jumping up & down, imo.   

Zenaida has some excellent attorneys.  I'm glad for that.


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Post by: cece on September 10, 2009, 06:15:56 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20838466/detail.html

Prosecutors: Show Us Evidence Of Who Dumped Caylee
Motion Filed In Casey Anthony Case
POSTED: 4:28 pm EDT September 10, 2009
UPDATED: 4:48 pm EDT September 10, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla.-- Prosecutors want defense attorneys to provide documents about their claim that someone other than Casey Anthony disposed of her daughter Caylee's body.

In a motion filed late Thursday, the state attorney's office asks a judge to order Anthony's attorneys to turn over "the names and addresses as well as all supporting documentation" about their claim, which was made in court as recently as last month.

Prosecutors said they have the right to review the evidence as part of the discovery process, where each side turns over evidence in preparation for a trial.

Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in connection with the death of her daughter, whose remains were found in woods in Orange County in December 2008. Anthony is in Orange County Jail awaiting trial sometimes next year.
The defense has suggested there is evidence that Casey Anthony was in jail at the time when Caylee's body could have been dumped. They point to searches of the area that did not turn up the body, including during a time Anthony was in jail.

Marti McKenzie, a defense team spokeswoman, said Thursday, "Mr. Baez will always follow the appropriate rules and regulations of the law in Florida." (PDF: Read The Motion)
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0910/208386...

In a related matter, attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez said in a new motion they are willing to drop their quest to force Casey Anthony to answer questions if it means their civil defamation lawsuit does not get put on the back burner.

. Gonzalez shares the same name with the woman Anthony said kidnapped Caylee. In their argument, Gonzalez's lawyers said "there is no room for sympathy because a civil defendant has serious criminal problems."

This week, the judge said he wanted to reconsider delaying Gonzalez's suit because Anthony is now facing a death penalty trial. He's expected to rule on this issue in about a month.


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Post by: klaasend on September 10, 2009, 06:16:38 PM
May be a repost:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-evidence-091009,0,57591.story

Casey Anthony case: State wants documents supporting defense claims
Amy L. Edwards

Sentinel Staff Writer

6:00 PM EDT, September 10, 2009

 State prosecutors want Casey Anthony's defense team to provide documents supporting its claim that someone else put Caylee Marie's body in the woods near her family's home.

According to a state motion filed Thursday, defense attorney Todd Macaluso told the court on Aug. 21: "There's substantial evidence, that we've discovered . . . that the body or the remains of Caylee Anthony were placed there after Casey Anthony was locked up in the Orange County Correctional facility."

The state is asking a judge compel the defense to provide names, addresses and all supporting documentation relative to their claim.

Caylee's remains were found Dec. 11, 2008 off Suburban Drive in east Orange County. Anthony, 23, faces a first-degree murder charge in her daughter's death. Prosecutors said 2-year-old Caylee hadn't been seen alive by anyone other than Anthony since June 16, 2008.

In their motion, prosecutors state "all forensic evidence to date establishes that the remains of Caylee Marie Anthony had been deposited at that location many months prior to Dec. 11, 2008."

Prosecutors argue Anthony's defense team has reciprocal discovery obligations. The only response Anthony has made toward fulfilling her obligation was defense witness lists.

"The only conclusion this Court can draw from the fact that no additional reciprocal discovery exhibit has been filed is (1) the exculpatory evidence does not exist, or (2) the defendant is intentionally violating the rules of discovery," the motion said.

Marti Mackenzie, spokeswoman for defense attorney Jose Baez, said Baez "abides by all of the rules and regulations affecting any kind of criminal trial in Florida."



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 10, 2009, 06:18:03 PM
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20838315/detail.html

Motion to Compel


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 10, 2009, 06:19:22 PM
In 2004 and 2005, Judge Rodriguez participated as a speaker on drugs, substance abuse, and prevention at parent/student gatherings sponsored by the Orange County Coalition for a Drug Free Community at Apopka High School (English), West Orange High School (English), and Colonial High School (Spanish).


Colonial HS?  Isn't there where whorseface attended?



I bet there was an auditorium full of fidgity, bored kids, if Rodriguez talked the way he does in court.   ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   It's almost as bad as fingernails on a chalkboard.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 10, 2009, 06:21:29 PM
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20838315/detail.html

Motion to Compel
Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 10, 2009, 06:21:55 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/09/state-calls-bluff-on-casey-ant.html

WDBO Local News      
State calls bluff on Casey Anthony 'innocent' claim
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ September 10, 2009 5:36 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
State prosecutors filed new motions in the Casey Anthony case asking the defense to prove they have the evidence they say they have.

In court in August 21st, Miss Anthony's defense said they have evidence proving the body of Caylee Anthony was dumped in the woods after she was locked up in jail. Attorney Todd Macaluso said the evidence proves the accused child killer is innocent.

But in a motion filed Thursday, state prosecutors call the defense's bluff, saying they're either hiding evidence they were supposed to provide to the state or "the evidence doesn't exist."

They asked judge Stan Strickland to force Miss Anthony's defense to hand over the exculpatory evidence under the "defendant's reciprocal discovery obligation."

(http://wdbo.com/images/2009/01/lindadraneburdick_m.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 10, 2009, 06:22:49 PM
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20838315/detail.html

Motion to Compel
Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyToot:: ::MonkeyToot:: ::MonkeyToot::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 10, 2009, 06:26:34 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/09/state-calls-bluff-on-casey-ant.html

WDBO Local News      
State calls bluff on Casey Anthony 'innocent' claim
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ September 10, 2009 5:36 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
State prosecutors filed new motions in the Casey Anthony case asking the defense to prove they have the evidence they say they have.

In court in August 21st, Miss Anthony's defense said they have evidence proving the body of Caylee Anthony was dumped in the woods after she was locked up in jail. Attorney Todd Macaluso said the evidence proves the accused child killer is innocent.

But in a motion filed Thursday, state prosecutors call the defense's bluff, saying they're either hiding evidence they were supposed to provide to the state or "the evidence doesn't exist."

They asked judge Stan Strickland to force Miss Anthony's defense to hand over the exculpatory evidence under the "defendant's reciprocal discovery obligation."

(http://wdbo.com/images/2009/01/lindadraneburdick_m.jpg)

They will of course have to allow the defense considerable time in order to make something up first.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 10, 2009, 06:30:08 PM
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20838315/detail.html

Motion to Compel

Todd Macaluso obviously doesn't watch the Nancy Grace show- in particular the one where Tim Miller was interviewed, when he stated that they could not search the area due to water levels being too high- they started to search and lost an ATV it was so deep back there.  There were no "hundred thousand people" searching that area. Tim called it off almost as soon as they started.
Facts, Mr Macaluso, just the facts.   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 10, 2009, 06:31:18 PM
Make that one hundred people.   My typo  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 10, 2009, 06:31:45 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/09/state-calls-bluff-on-casey-ant.html

WDBO Local News      
State calls bluff on Casey Anthony 'innocent' claim
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ September 10, 2009 5:36 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
State prosecutors filed new motions in the Casey Anthony case asking the defense to prove they have the evidence they say they have.

In court in August 21st, Miss Anthony's defense said they have evidence proving the body of Caylee Anthony was dumped in the woods after she was locked up in jail. Attorney Todd Macaluso said the evidence proves the accused child killer is innocent.

But in a motion filed Thursday, state prosecutors call the defense's bluff, saying they're either hiding evidence they were supposed to provide to the state or "the evidence doesn't exist."

They asked judge Stan Strickland to force Miss Anthony's defense to hand over the exculpatory evidence under the "defendant's reciprocal discovery obligation."

(http://wdbo.com/images/2009/01/lindadraneburdick_m.jpg)

They will of course have to allow the defense considerable time in order to make something up first.

If I read the motion correct, it is way past the 15 days (allowed by law) that Mac announced the "significant" evidence proving someone else placed Caylee's body in the woods.  Someone please help me out with this one.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 10, 2009, 06:36:09 PM
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20838315/detail.html

Motion to Compel
Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyToot:: ::MonkeyToot:: ::MonkeyToot::

Love it.    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 10, 2009, 06:41:34 PM
(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/MOTIONTOCOMPEL.jpg)


 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 10, 2009, 06:44:38 PM
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20838315/detail.html

Motion to Compel

Is that not the best, well written motion we have seen in this entire case?!!!!!!!!

Way to go LINDA - if you read here! LOL  Made my day!!!!!!!
 ::MonkeyCheer2:: ::MonkeyCheer2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 10, 2009, 06:44:59 PM
::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer3::

Looks like you can rate the Judge here:

http://www.ratethecourts.com/judge.php?id=150880&which=judge

229 smart folks have voted him the worst of 2009.   ::MonkeyDance::

Can we revote tomorrow??  LOL


It just allowed me to vote again.  Once a day is what it seems.  327 votes not for worst judge of 2009.

Thanks for letting us know we can revote!  It's up to 471 now!   ::MonkeyCheer3::

 ::MonkeyToot::  I'll toot to that!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 10, 2009, 06:48:32 PM
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20838315/detail.html

Motion to Compel
Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyToot:: ::MonkeyToot:: ::MonkeyToot::
[/quote

Thanks.   ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 10, 2009, 06:48:40 PM
http://www.forthepeople.com/Gonzalez_Reply_to_Motion_for_Stay.pdf



Appreciate your posting this.  If I was Zenaida, I would surely want my name cleared, and in a timely manner.  It's almost too late for timely, however.  I would suspect that Judge Rodriguez would also, if he found himself in her predicament.  In fact, he would be jumping up & down, imo.   

Zenaida has some excellent attorneys.  I'm glad for that.

In this mess of bad people, the good ones really stand out!!  Yuri, John Allen, Tim Miller, Mark Nejame, and the Morgan attorneys are the ones that really stick out in my mind...I am sure there are others....they are certainly out numbered by the others...but they have goodness on their side......angels among devils!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 10, 2009, 06:50:19 PM
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20838315/detail.html

Motion to Compel
Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyToot:: ::MonkeyToot:: ::MonkeyToot::
[/quote

Thanks.   ::MonkeyCheer4:: ::MonkeyCheer4::

 ::CowWave::   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 10, 2009, 06:50:29 PM
(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/MOTIONTOCOMPEL.jpg)


 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyJustice::

 ::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 10, 2009, 06:51:48 PM
Linda Drane Burdick has great penmanship also ~ !    ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 10, 2009, 06:52:24 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20838466/detail.html

Prosecutors: Show Us Evidence Of Who Dumped Caylee
Motion Filed In Casey Anthony Case
POSTED: 4:28 pm EDT September 10, 2009
UPDATED: 4:48 pm EDT September 10, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla.-- Prosecutors want defense attorneys to provide documents about their claim that someone other than Casey Anthony disposed of her daughter Caylee's body.

In a motion filed late Thursday, the state attorney's office asks a judge to order Anthony's attorneys to turn over "the names and addresses as well as all supporting documentation" about their claim, which was made in court as recently as last month.

Prosecutors said they have the right to review the evidence as part of the discovery process, where each side turns over evidence in preparation for a trial.

Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in connection with the death of her daughter, whose remains were found in woods in Orange County in December 2008. Anthony is in Orange County Jail awaiting trial sometimes next year.
The defense has suggested there is evidence that Casey Anthony was in jail at the time when Caylee's body could have been dumped. They point to searches of the area that did not turn up the body, including during a time Anthony was in jail.

Marti McKenzie, a defense team spokeswoman, said Thursday, "Mr. Baez will always follow the appropriate rules and regulations of the law in Florida." (PDF: Read The Motion)
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0910/208386...

In a related matter, attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez said in a new motion they are willing to drop their quest to force Casey Anthony to answer questions if it means their civil defamation lawsuit does not get put on the back burner.

. Gonzalez shares the same name with the woman Anthony said kidnapped Caylee. In their argument, Gonzalez's lawyers said "there is no room for sympathy because a civil defendant has serious criminal problems."

This week, the judge said he wanted to reconsider delaying Gonzalez's suit because Anthony is now facing a death penalty trial. He's expected to rule on this issue in about a month.


thanks cece!  HOT DAMN!  It's put up or shut up time for BOZO!

The link didn't work....hope this one does

http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0910/20838679.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 10, 2009, 06:54:58 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/09/state-calls-bluff-on-casey-ant.html

WDBO Local News      
State calls bluff on Casey Anthony 'innocent' claim
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ September 10, 2009 5:36 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
State prosecutors filed new motions in the Casey Anthony case asking the defense to prove they have the evidence they say they have.

In court in August 21st, Miss Anthony's defense said they have evidence proving the body of Caylee Anthony was dumped in the woods after she was locked up in jail. Attorney Todd Macaluso said the evidence proves the accused child killer is innocent.

But in a motion filed Thursday, state prosecutors call the defense's bluff, saying they're either hiding evidence they were supposed to provide to the state or "the evidence doesn't exist."

They asked judge Stan Strickland to force Miss Anthony's defense to hand over the exculpatory evidence under the "defendant's reciprocal discovery obligation."

(http://wdbo.com/images/2009/01/lindadraneburdick_m.jpg)

They will of course have to allow the defense considerable time in order to make something up first.

If I read the motion correct, it is way past the 15 days (allowed by law) that Mac announced the "significant" evidence proving someone else placed Caylee's body in the woods.  Someone please help me out with this one.

Yes, you read the motion correct.  The state (Linda !) cites the Florida Rules of Civil Procedure section and code which require reciprocal discovery by biasbutt and team.  She further asserted that 1.  No such evidence exists.  (IE: they are grandstanding and blowing hot air, to try to sway potential jury pool <---- this part is me!) or 2. the defense team is INTENTIONALLY violating Flordia Rules of Civil Procedure.  (me again, thus showing the court they have NO RESPECT for the judge, court or the laws governing discovery!)
Does that help?   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 10, 2009, 06:55:06 PM
http://www.forthepeople.com/Gonzalez_Reply_to_Motion_for_Stay.pdf



Appreciate your posting this.  If I was Zenaida, I would surely want my name cleared, and in a timely manner.  It's almost too late for timely, however.  I would suspect that Judge Rodriguez would also, if he found himself in her predicament.  In fact, he would be jumping up & down, imo.   

Zenaida has some excellent attorneys.  I'm glad for that.

In this mess of bad people, the good ones really stand out!!  Yuri, John Allen, Tim Miller, Mark Nejame, and the Morgan attorneys are the ones that really stick out in my mind...I am sure there are others....they are certainly out numbered by the others...but they have goodness on their side......angels among devils!!

I agree Sunny, & I'd like to add Linda Duane Burdick to that list of supporters in Justice for Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 10, 2009, 06:58:12 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/09/state-calls-bluff-on-casey-ant.html

WDBO Local News      
State calls bluff on Casey Anthony 'innocent' claim
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ September 10, 2009 5:36 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
State prosecutors filed new motions in the Casey Anthony case asking the defense to prove they have the evidence they say they have.

In court in August 21st, Miss Anthony's defense said they have evidence proving the body of Caylee Anthony was dumped in the woods after she was locked up in jail. Attorney Todd Macaluso said the evidence proves the accused child killer is innocent.

But in a motion filed Thursday, state prosecutors call the defense's bluff, saying they're either hiding evidence they were supposed to provide to the state or "the evidence doesn't exist."

They asked judge Stan Strickland to force Miss Anthony's defense to hand over the exculpatory evidence under the "defendant's reciprocal discovery obligation."

(http://wdbo.com/images/2009/01/lindadraneburdick_m.jpg)

They will of course have to allow the defense considerable time in order to make something up first.

If I read the motion correct, it is way past the 15 days (allowed by law) that Mac announced the "significant" evidence proving someone else placed Caylee's body in the woods.  Someone please help me out with this one.

Yes, you read the motion correct.  The state (Linda !) cites the Florida Rules of Civil Procedure section and code which require reciprocal discovery by biasbutt and team.  She further asserted that 1.  No such evidence exists.  (IE: they are grandstanding and blowing hot air, to try to sway potential jury pool <---- this part is me!) or 2. the defense team is INTENTIONALLY violating Flordia Rules of Civil Procedure.  (me again, thus showing the court they have NO RESPECT for the judge, court or the laws governing discovery!)
Does that help?   

Justice is coming for Caylee!   ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 10, 2009, 07:00:19 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/09/state-calls-bluff-on-casey-ant.html

--------------------->  SNIP

If I read the motion correct, it is way past the 15 days (allowed by law) that Mac announced the "significant" evidence proving someone else placed Caylee's body in the woods.  Someone please help me out with this one.

Yes, you read the motion correct.  The state (Linda !) cites the Florida Rules of Civil Procedure section and code which require reciprocal discovery by biasbutt and team.  She further asserted that (THE ONLY LOGICAL REASONS FOR NOT PROVIDING IT INCLUDE <----(my words) 1.  No such evidence exists.  (IE: they are grandstanding and blowing hot air, to try to sway potential jury pool <---- this part is me!) or 2. the defense team is INTENTIONALLY violating Flordia Rules of Civil Procedure.  (me again, thus showing the court they have NO RESPECT for the judge, court or the laws governing discovery!)
Does that help?   

Edited to make it even clearer.  Bold part new. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 10, 2009, 07:02:13 PM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/091009_anthony_motion

New motion filed in
Anthony case

Updated: Thursday, 10 Sep 2009, 5:51 PM EDT
Published : Thursday, 10 Sep 2009, 5:50 PM EDT

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - The state attorney’s office filed a new motion Thursday in the Casey Anthony case demanding new information from Casey Anthony's defense team.

Last month a defense team attorney told the court there's substantial evidence Caylee's remains were placed in a wooded area after Casey Anthony was locked up in the Orange County jail. Those remains were found December 11, 2008, near the Anthony home on Suburban Drive.
Now the state wants to know who those witnesses are. Prosecutors claim the law requires the defense to update its witness list.

A hearing date has not been scheduled yet.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 10, 2009, 07:03:04 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/09/state-calls-bluff-on-casey-ant.html

--------------------->  SNIP

If I read the motion correct, it is way past the 15 days (allowed by law) that Mac announced the "significant" evidence proving someone else placed Caylee's body in the woods.  Someone please help me out with this one.

Yes, you read the motion correct.  The state (Linda !) cites the Florida Rules of Civil Procedure section and code which require reciprocal discovery by biasbutt and team.  She further asserted that (THE ONLY LOGICAL REASONS FOR NOT PROVIDING IT INCLUDE <----(my words) 1.  No such evidence exists.  (IE: they are grandstanding and blowing hot air, to try to sway potential jury pool <---- this part is me!) or 2. the defense team is INTENTIONALLY violating Flordia Rules of Civil Procedure.  (me again, thus showing the court they have NO RESPECT for the judge, court or the laws governing discovery!)
Does that help?   

Edited to make it even clearer.  Bold part new. 

Now editing to say I will go get coffee so I don't get the boxes messed up.  I hope I fixed it .................grrrrrrr @ me!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 10, 2009, 07:09:38 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/09/state-calls-bluff-on-casey-ant.html

--------------------->  SNIP

If I read the motion correct, it is way past the 15 days (allowed by law) that Mac announced the "significant" evidence proving someone else placed Caylee's body in the woods.  Someone please help me out with this one.
This was me, ANJM not cece if I have still not fixed my box mess up.
Yes, you read the motion correct.  The state (Linda !) cites the Florida Rules of Civil Procedure section and code which require reciprocal discovery by biasbutt and team.  She further asserted that (THE ONLY LOGICAL REASONS FOR NOT PROVIDING IT INCLUDE <----(my words) 1.  No such evidence exists.  (IE: they are grandstanding and blowing hot air, to try to sway potential jury pool <---- this part is me!) or 2. the defense team is INTENTIONALLY violating Flordia Rules of Civil Procedure.  (me again, thus showing the court they have NO RESPECT for the judge, court or the laws governing discovery!)
Does that help?   

Edited to make it even clearer.  Bold part new. 

Now editing to say I will go get coffee so I don't get the boxes messed up.  I hope I fixed it .................grrrrrrr @ me!

 ::MonkeyToot:: ::MonkeyToot:: ::MonkeyToot::   CLEAN - UP on Asile 76, Please!  LOL  does this horn sound and get me a mod to delete all my mess-up and maybe just add the bold to my original post?   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: darla on September 10, 2009, 07:09:53 PM
Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!
That Motion to Compel just made my day.....I will not name names, but you all remember the dumb one who went running to LE saying she searched with Tim in that area.and had pics to prove it....I see her going under Bozo's bus as the one who put Caylee's lil body there. But I have Faith in God that little Caylee will get her Justice.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 10, 2009, 07:13:18 PM
Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!
That Motion to Compel just made my day.....I will not name names, but you all remember the dumb one who went running to LE saying she searched with Tim in that area.and had pics to prove it....I see her going under Bozo's bus as the one who put Caylee's lil body there. But I have Faith in God that little Caylee will get her Justice.

Ohhhhhhhhh, tell me this was JOY !   

btw - read you had a MI -- sure hope you are feeling all better.  I wondered what happened that you went poof!  ::MonkeyHeart:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 10, 2009, 07:16:59 PM
Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!
That Motion to Compel just made my day.....I will not name names, but you all remember the dumb one who went running to LE saying she searched with Tim in that area.and had pics to prove it....I see her going under Bozo's bus as the one who put Caylee's lil body there. But I have Faith in God that little Caylee will get her Justice.

(Sorry off topic)

Hope you are feeling better Darla and your new avi is just beautiful.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 10, 2009, 07:21:14 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-state-wants-to-see-defenses-evidence-about-dumping-of-caylees-remains.html

Casey Anthony: State wants to see defense's evidence about dumping of Caylee's remains
posted by halboedeker on Sep 10, 2009 7:06:38 PM


"State: Show Us the Proof," WESH-Channel 2 headlined the latest Casey Anthony story.

WKMG-Channel 6 put it this way: "Prosecutors Demand Evidence."

Both stations replayed footage of defense attorney Todd Macaluso saying last month in court that someone other than Anthony had put Caylee Anthony's remains in the woods. Casey Anthony is charged with the first-degree murder of her daughter, Caylee.

WFTV-Channel 9 anchor Martie Salt summed up the development this way: "The prosecution said it wants to see all the evidence to support the claim Casey didn't kill her 2-year-old daughter. Casey has maintained that someone else took Caylee last summer and dumped her body in the woods off Suburban Drive. Today the state asked the judge to force her defense to release all the evidence that supports that claim."

WKMG anchor Jacqueline London said, "In a motion filed today, the state says either the supposed evidence of innocence does not exist or defense team members are violating rules that require them to share in advance whatever they expect to use at trial."

WESH's Bob Kealing described Macaluso's claim as a "bombshell" that "stunned" everyone and "the first indication of what the defense's trial strategy would be."

Kealing added: "Under the rules of discovery, prosecutors say they're entitled to know what the evidence is and who Casey's defense will put on the stand to support it." Prosecutors expressed "strong skepticism that this evidence even exists."

Defense attorney Jose Baez's spokeswoman told Kealing that the attorney will follow the appropriate rules. "Presumably, he is going to turn over whatever evidence he has," Kealing concluded.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 10, 2009, 07:39:28 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/09/state-calls-bluff-on-casey-ant.html

WDBO Local News      
State calls bluff on Casey Anthony 'innocent' claim
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ September 10, 2009 5:36 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
State prosecutors filed new motions in the Casey Anthony case asking the defense to prove they have the evidence they say they have.

In court in August 21st, Miss Anthony's defense said they have evidence proving the body of Caylee Anthony was dumped in the woods after she was locked up in jail. Attorney Todd Macaluso said the evidence proves the accused child killer is innocent.

But in a motion filed Thursday, state prosecutors call the defense's bluff, saying they're either hiding evidence they were supposed to provide to the state or "the evidence doesn't exist."

They asked judge Stan Strickland to force Miss Anthony's defense to hand over the exculpatory evidence under the "defendant's reciprocal discovery obligation."

(http://wdbo.com/images/2009/01/lindadraneburdick_m.jpg)

Put up or shut up Bozo!   Gotta love it, knew it was coming -- bam ::MonkeyJustice:: bam  ::MonkeyJustice:: bam bam bam bam  ::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: darla on September 10, 2009, 07:42:49 PM
Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!
That Motion to Compel just made my day.....I will not name names, but you all remember the dumb one who went running to LE saying she searched with Tim in that area.and had pics to prove it....I see her going under Bozo's bus as the one who put Caylee's lil body there. But I have Faith in God that little Caylee will get her Justice.

Ohhhhhhhhh, tell me this was JOY !   

btw - read you had a MI -- sure hope you are feeling all better.  I wondered what happened that you went poof!  ::MonkeyHeart:: 

Yep! You win the prize. lol! I think the Anthony's played on her mental issues and used her shamelessly.

Yes, I have been sick for the last couple of months , but doing well, just taking forever to get my strength back. Thank you all for your Well Wishes!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 10, 2009, 07:43:47 PM
Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!
That Motion to Compel just made my day.....I will not name names, but you all remember the dumb one who went running to LE saying she searched with Tim in that area.and had pics to prove it....I see her going under Bozo's bus as the one who put Caylee's lil body there. But I have Faith in God that little Caylee will get her Justice.

Joy to the world, all the boys and girls now, JOY to the fishes in the deep blue see, JOY to you and me...wink wink

Now that would be a hoot!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 10, 2009, 07:46:51 PM
Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!
That Motion to Compel just made my day.....I will not name names, but you all remember the dumb one who went running to LE saying she searched with Tim in that area.and had pics to prove it....I see her going under Bozo's bus as the one who put Caylee's lil body there. But I have Faith in God that little Caylee will get her Justice.

Ohhhhhhhhh, tell me this was JOY !   

btw - read you had a MI -- sure hope you are feeling all better.  I wondered what happened that you went poof!  ::MonkeyHeart:: 

Yep! You win the prize. lol! I think the Anthony's played on her mental issues and used her shamelessly.

Yes, I have been sick for the last couple of months , but doing well, just taking forever to get my strength back. Thank you all for your Well Wishes!

Ohhhhh, a prize  - I will trade in in for continued heath and energy for you!  Nice to have you back!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 10, 2009, 07:55:52 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/09/state-calls-bluff-on-casey-ant.html

WDBO Local News      
State calls bluff on Casey Anthony 'innocent' claim
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ September 10, 2009 5:36 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
State prosecutors filed new motions in the Casey Anthony case asking the defense to prove they have the evidence they say they have.

In court in August 21st, Miss Anthony's defense said they have evidence proving the body of Caylee Anthony was dumped in the woods after she was locked up in jail. Attorney Todd Macaluso said the evidence proves the accused child killer is innocent.

But in a motion filed Thursday, state prosecutors call the defense's bluff, saying they're either hiding evidence they were supposed to provide to the state or "the evidence doesn't exist."

They asked judge Stan Strickland to force Miss Anthony's defense to hand over the exculpatory evidence under the "defendant's reciprocal discovery obligation."

(http://wdbo.com/images/2009/01/lindadraneburdick_m.jpg)

They will of course have to allow the defense considerable time in order to make something up first.

If I read the motion correct, it is way past the 15 days (allowed by law) that Mac announced the "significant" evidence proving someone else placed Caylee's body in the woods.  Someone please help me out with this one.

Yes, Cece there is a specific period of time that expulatory evidence must be presented by either party, it is a violation of discovery if a the period of time has expired and/or if it was presented and not being factual there can be sanctions.    I knew when "Mac the Knife" aka "hothead" uttered it in court that he got way ahead of himself - he is used to litigating civil cases & he F'd up royally here.   Regardless, we all know whatever they have (Joy or otherwise) that is as bogus as the day long.    The defense stalled this trial hoping the facts would be more distant to people that potential could serve as jurors & they need time to make up a totally fabricated "Bunk and Bull Show."   Casey is going to regret that she didn't have an attorney that worked hard to get her a plea to spare her life, maybe literally.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: karenmamo on September 10, 2009, 08:03:14 PM
After what we all went through and felt yesterday, this is most uplifting.
This case seems to do this a lot...the ups and the downs...then by gumbo we get another up.
Ends my day on a good note.

                                              ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 10, 2009, 08:06:24 PM
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20838315/detail.html

Motion to Compel

I wonder if the so called team leader they talked to was that crazy JOY!!   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 10, 2009, 08:09:39 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/09/state-calls-bluff-on-casey-ant.html

WDBO Local News      
State calls bluff on Casey Anthony 'innocent' claim
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ September 10, 2009 5:36 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
State prosecutors filed new motions in the Casey Anthony case asking the defense to prove they have the evidence they say they have.

In court in August 21st, Miss Anthony's defense said they have evidence proving the body of Caylee Anthony was dumped in the woods after she was locked up in jail. Attorney Todd Macaluso said the evidence proves the accused child killer is innocent.

But in a motion filed Thursday, state prosecutors call the defense's bluff, saying they're either hiding evidence they were supposed to provide to the state or "the evidence doesn't exist."

They asked judge Stan Strickland to force Miss Anthony's defense to hand over the exculpatory evidence under the "defendant's reciprocal discovery obligation."

(http://wdbo.com/images/2009/01/lindadraneburdick_m.jpg)

They will of course have to allow the defense considerable time in order to make something up first.

If I read the motion correct, it is way past the 15 days (allowed by law) that Mac announced the "significant" evidence proving someone else placed Caylee's body in the woods.  Someone please help me out with this one.

Yes, you read the motion correct.  The state (Linda !) cites the Florida Rules of Civil Procedure section and code which require reciprocal discovery by biasbutt and team.  She further asserted that 1.  No such evidence exists.  (IE: they are grandstanding and blowing hot air, to try to sway potential jury pool <---- this part is me!) or 2. the defense team is INTENTIONALLY violating Flordia Rules of Civil Procedure.  (me again, thus showing the court they have NO RESPECT for the judge, court or the laws governing discovery!)
Does that help?   

 ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 10, 2009, 08:11:18 PM
http://www.forthepeople.com/Gonzalez_Reply_to_Motion_for_Stay.pdf



Appreciate your posting this.  If I was Zenaida, I would surely want my name cleared, and in a timely manner.  It's almost too late for timely, however.  I would suspect that Judge Rodriguez would also, if he found himself in her predicament.  In fact, he would be jumping up & down, imo.   

Zenaida has some excellent attorneys.  I'm glad for that.

In this mess of bad people, the good ones really stand out!!  Yuri, John Allen, Tim Miller, Mark Nejame, and the Morgan attorneys are the ones that really stick out in my mind...I am sure there are others....they are certainly out numbered by the others...but they have goodness on their side......angels among devils!!

I agree Sunny, & I'd like to add Linda Duane Burdick to that list of supporters in Justice for Caylee.

cece you are correct....I knew there were more ::MonkeyCheer3::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 10, 2009, 08:16:05 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-state-wants-to-see-defenses-evidence-about-dumping-of-caylees-remains.html

Casey Anthony: State wants to see defense's evidence about dumping of Caylee's remains
posted by halboedeker on Sep 10, 2009 7:06:38 PM


"State: Show Us the Proof," WESH-Channel 2 headlined the latest Casey Anthony story.

WKMG-Channel 6 put it this way: "Prosecutors Demand Evidence."

Both stations replayed footage of defense attorney Todd Macaluso saying last month in court that someone other than Anthony had put Caylee Anthony's remains in the woods. Casey Anthony is charged with the first-degree murder of her daughter, Caylee.

WFTV-Channel 9 anchor Martie Salt summed up the development this way: "The prosecution said it wants to see all the evidence to support the claim Casey didn't kill her 2-year-old daughter. Casey has maintained that someone else took Caylee last summer and dumped her body in the woods off Suburban Drive. Today the state asked the judge to force her defense to release all the evidence that supports that claim."

WKMG anchor Jacqueline London said, "In a motion filed today, the state says either the supposed evidence of innocence does not exist or defense team members are violating rules that require them to share in advance whatever they expect to use at trial."

WESH's Bob Kealing described Macaluso's claim as a "bombshell" that "stunned" everyone and "the first indication of what the defense's trial strategy would be."

Kealing added: "Under the rules of discovery, prosecutors say they're entitled to know what the evidence is and who Casey's defense will put on the stand to support it." Prosecutors expressed "strong skepticism that this evidence even exists."

Defense attorney Jose Baez's spokeswoman told Kealing that the attorney will follow the appropriate rules. "Presumably, he is going to turn over whatever evidence he has," Kealing concluded.

What a crock!  If he was going to follow the appropriate rules it would be a FIRST!!   and he has already lost the opportunity to do that..... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 10, 2009, 08:17:08 PM
Thank you Capp and Sunny!

Time for me to log off.  It was a good day and one day closer to Justice for Caylee!   ::MonkeyAngel::

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/GREETINGS/goodnight010.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 10, 2009, 08:17:46 PM
Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!
That Motion to Compel just made my day.....I will not name names, but you all remember the dumb one who went running to LE saying she searched with Tim in that area.and had pics to prove it....I see her going under Bozo's bus as the one who put Caylee's lil body there. But I have Faith in God that little Caylee will get her Justice.

Ohhhhhhhhh, tell me this was JOY !   

btw - read you had a MI -- sure hope you are feeling all better.  I wondered what happened that you went poof!  ::MonkeyHeart:: 

Yep! You win the prize. lol! I think the Anthony's played on her mental issues and used her shamelessly.

Yes, I have been sick for the last couple of months , but doing well, just taking forever to get my strength back. Thank you all for your Well Wishes!

Darla, I am happy you are doing better.Glad you are back and you look beautimous!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 10, 2009, 08:19:50 PM
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/09/state-calls-bluff-on-casey-ant.html

WDBO Local News      
State calls bluff on Casey Anthony 'innocent' claim
By
Drew Petrimoulx
@ September 10, 2009 5:36 PM Permalink | Comments (0)
State prosecutors filed new motions in the Casey Anthony case asking the defense to prove they have the evidence they say they have.

In court in August 21st, Miss Anthony's defense said they have evidence proving the body of Caylee Anthony was dumped in the woods after she was locked up in jail. Attorney Todd Macaluso said the evidence proves the accused child killer is innocent.

But in a motion filed Thursday, state prosecutors call the defense's bluff, saying they're either hiding evidence they were supposed to provide to the state or "the evidence doesn't exist."

They asked judge Stan Strickland to force Miss Anthony's defense to hand over the exculpatory evidence under the "defendant's reciprocal discovery obligation."

(http://wdbo.com/images/2009/01/lindadraneburdick_m.jpg)

They will of course have to allow the defense considerable time in order to make something up first.

If I read the motion correct, it is way past the 15 days (allowed by law) that Mac announced the "significant" evidence proving someone else placed Caylee's body in the woods.  Someone please help me out with this one.

Yes, Cece there is a specific period of time that expulatory evidence must be presented by either party, it is a violation of discovery if a the period of time has expired and/or if it was presented and not being factual there can be sanctions.    I knew when "Mac the Knife" aka "hothead" uttered it in court that he got way ahead of himself - he is used to litigating civil cases & he F'd up royally here.   Regardless, we all know whatever they have (Joy or otherwise) that is as bogus as the day long.    The defense stalled this trial hoping the facts would be more distant to people that potential could serve as jurors & they need time to make up a totally fabricated "Bunk and Bull Show."   Casey is going to regret that she didn't have an attorney that worked hard to get her a plea to spare her life, maybe literally.

 ::MonkeyToot::  capp....you must have a crystal ball!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 10, 2009, 08:21:28 PM
After what we all went through and felt yesterday, this is most uplifting.
This case seems to do this a lot...the ups and the downs...then by gumbo we get another up.
Ends my day on a good note.

                                              ::MonkeyKiss::

karen I am so glad this lifted your spirits and hopefully all the monkeys when were down....and the wonderful part is IMO it ain't over yet!!   ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 10, 2009, 08:23:48 PM
Thank you Capp and Sunny!

Time for me to log off.  It was a good day and one day closer to Justice for Caylee!   ::MonkeyAngel::

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/GREETINGS/goodnight010.gif)

Good Night cece...again thank you for all you bring to and contribute to SM!!  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 10, 2009, 08:27:53 PM
Mr Mitnik was very methodical in his questioning about what contracts DC had and with whom and when.  When he asked DC about the psychic, did anyone else wonder when he was going to ask about a contract between DC and Lee?  IMO, DC was on the phone with Lee when he was poking in the ground near the sight of Caylee's remains.

ITA, Numbersgirl!  I'm wondering where the A's got the money to enter into contract with Dominic Casey since they bonded Casey out (documentation in this thread), but told Casey in August they didn't have the money to bond her out (August jail video).  They don't have large sums of money, then mysteriously they do, then they don't, then Cindy takes a leave of absence from her job, and then they do.  Lee has to move in to help with expenses (January) because Cindy & George aren't working, but then the A's have money to go to Ohio and the beach.  What is up with this?

Excellent observations Numbersgirl and ISpy!

Are the sickos from kidfinders still living with them? Or was that a short stay?
I believe also Lee was on the phone with Dominic, and I don't know who said it, or what day it was, but someone here posted, that they felt the Anthonys and partners in crime, have done all this on purpose from the start, to cause reasonable doubt. Not the exact words, but to that effect. I couldn't agree more, this has been the game plan from the start. Everything has been orchestrated, granted not the best orchestration......

Morning everyone

They are living off the kindness of others & the media's willingness to pay to get the scoop, murder is a story for ratings (sad but true) & this case a novelist would be hard pressed to imagine, fact not fiction!  ::pause waiting for wave of nauseousness to pass ::  

Add to that Tracey's interview with FBI/OCSO not only that George blurted out that he didnt want to live this lie BUT more telling was Casey's comments heard by Tracey & Rob firsthand.   A few of her excuses/omissions/diversions were glaring & very typical of a sociopath with narcissistic tendencies.  Lenny, hit the nail on the head when he said that everything she says has a ring of a truth in it somewhere, the statement about the shovel in particular where Casey offers an excuse about the bamboo & then volunteers that she used it to move the pool ladder with Cindy right there to tell her to shut up proves Casey's guilt and the Anthonys knew it as Cindy would say "from day one."

The fact that Cindy and Lee sent Dominic Casey into those particular woods with a probe & shovel no less, seals my belief that they were told where to find Caylee by Casey & were part of concealing the fact that she murdered Caylee.  Also, look to how earnest Cindy pushes blame for wrong doings upon others including the very people that were trying to help them & solve Caylee's what was said to be "abduction" when actually everyone knew was murder at least by the day Casey's car was picked up at the tow yard.  While there Cindy is belligerent with the manager, George volunteers his difficulties with his daughter & that he hasnt seen his granddaughter BEFORE they get to the car...hmm.   Later stories of Casey refusing to let them see Caylee yet they saw Casey & argued with her over stolen gas cans...hmm.   Cindy goes on her own to pick of Casey at Tony's realizing then that Caylee was not with Casey, another opportunity police could have been called right then and there but no she drags her home instead & admits that she drove around with her awhile after dropping off Amy.  Why didnt Cindy insist on at least talking to "Zanny" if Casey's excuse not to "wake Caylee" was valid so Cindy could rest easier...notice that option was never discussed or covered up.  As a parent yourselves, you all instinctively know you would insist on some sort of reassuring contact & never settle for less.   I still say there is a chance that Cindy's 911 calls were staged & she knew before - even the excuses as to why they did not receive the notice from the tow yard seems bogus.  What they did immediately following discovering the condition of the car is extremely telling as well, they knew right then and there something horrid happened to Caylee & Casey was responsible because otherwise they would have called 911 right then and there at the tow yard.   In essence after Casey  committed her evil she started the concert & Cindy has been attempting to orchestrate the finale with crashing cymbals, the snares of a drum & broken violin strings.    Isnt' it kinda ironic that an item found in their house & part of Casey's heinous crime is what I would like to use to permanently silence them along with their murdering slore, Henkel duct tape.   After much frustration I then pause knowing Casey will answer for her crimes & her family will continue in a living hell even if they don't face criminal charges along with her.
I have always thought cindys 911 calls were staged.Most people heard a very upset gramma when I only heard a very bad actress wannabe.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 10, 2009, 08:39:45 PM
Night Monks...it's walk time!!  Have a wonderful evening!! ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Brandi on September 10, 2009, 08:42:32 PM
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I have always thought cindys 911 calls were staged.Most people heard a very upset gramma when I only heard a very bad actress wannabe.

Me too, Karma.

She actually showed concerned emotion in that call. I think she can only show it when acting.

JMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 10, 2009, 08:44:42 PM
I've been looking around and came across this slideshow that Casey created. Some of the pics we have seen before but she has added her own captions. Too bad the mystery guy with the tattoos isn't in here.   http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68989&page=6
Is anyone a member at WS that can get these images(down below on same page as the slideshow)from georges phone and post them here?I am not a member so I can't even view the images.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 10, 2009, 08:58:30 PM
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I have always thought cindys 911 calls were staged.Most people heard a very upset gramma when I only heard a very bad actress wannabe.

Me too, Karma.

She actually showed concerned emotion in that call. I think she can only show it when acting.

JMO.
Hi Brandi
Oh,cindy did sound scared and concern but not because of sweet Caylee,she showed those emotions because she was and still is in protective mode with casey.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 10, 2009, 09:02:51 PM
Have a good night you all.

Sweet Caylee,every day we are one day closer to justice for you.






Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 10, 2009, 09:24:37 PM
Mr Mitnik was very methodical in his questioning about what contracts DC had and with whom and when.  When he asked DC about the psychic, did anyone else wonder when he was going to ask about a contract between DC and Lee?  IMO, DC was on the phone with Lee when he was poking in the ground near the sight of Caylee's remains.

ITA, Numbersgirl!  I'm wondering where the A's got the money to enter into contract with Dominic Casey since they bonded Casey out (documentation in this thread), but told Casey in August they didn't have the money to bond her out (August jail video).  They don't have large sums of money, then mysteriously they do, then they don't, then Cindy takes a leave of absence from her job, and then they do.  Lee has to move in to help with expenses (January) because Cindy & George aren't working, but then the A's have money to go to Ohio and the beach.  What is up with this?

Excellent observations Numbersgirl and ISpy!

Are the sickos from kidfinders still living with them? Or was that a short stay?
I believe also Lee was on the phone with Dominic, and I don't know who said it, or what day it was, but someone here posted, that they felt the Anthonys and partners in crime, have done all this on purpose from the start, to cause reasonable doubt. Not the exact words, but to that effect. I couldn't agree more, this has been the game plan from the start. Everything has been orchestrated, granted not the best orchestration......

Morning everyone

They are living off the kindness of others & the media's willingness to pay to get the scoop, murder is a story for ratings (sad but true) & this case a novelist would be hard pressed to imagine, fact not fiction!  ::pause waiting for wave of nauseousness to pass ::  

Add to that Tracey's interview with FBI/OCSO not only that George blurted out that he didnt want to live this lie BUT more telling was Casey's comments heard by Tracey & Rob firsthand.   A few of her excuses/omissions/diversions were glaring & very typical of a sociopath with narcissistic tendencies.  Lenny, hit the nail on the head when he said that everything she says has a ring of a truth in it somewhere, the statement about the shovel in particular where Casey offers an excuse about the bamboo & then volunteers that she used it to move the pool ladder with Cindy right there to tell her to shut up proves Casey's guilt and the Anthonys knew it as Cindy would say "from day one."

The fact that Cindy and Lee sent Dominic Casey into those particular woods with a probe & shovel no less, seals my belief that they were told where to find Caylee by Casey & were part of concealing the fact that she murdered Caylee.  Also, look to how earnest Cindy pushes blame for wrong doings upon others including the very people that were trying to help them & solve Caylee's what was said to be "abduction" when actually everyone knew was murder at least by the day Casey's car was picked up at the tow yard.  While there Cindy is belligerent with the manager, George volunteers his difficulties with his daughter & that he hasnt seen his granddaughter BEFORE they get to the car...hmm.   Later stories of Casey refusing to let them see Caylee yet they saw Casey & argued with her over stolen gas cans...hmm.   Cindy goes on her own to pick of Casey at Tony's realizing then that Caylee was not with Casey, another opportunity police could have been called right then and there but no she drags her home instead & admits that she drove around with her awhile after dropping off Amy.  Why didnt Cindy insist on at least talking to "Zanny" if Casey's excuse not to "wake Caylee" was valid so Cindy could rest easier...notice that option was never discussed or covered up.  As a parent yourselves, you all instinctively know you would insist on some sort of reassuring contact & never settle for less.   I still say there is a chance that Cindy's 911 calls were staged & she knew before - even the excuses as to why they did not receive the notice from the tow yard seems bogus.  What they did immediately following discovering the condition of the car is extremely telling as well, they knew right then and there something horrid happened to Caylee & Casey was responsible because otherwise they would have called 911 right then and there at the tow yard.   In essence after Casey  committed her evil she started the concert & Cindy has been attempting to orchestrate the finale with crashing cymbals, the snares of a drum & broken violin strings.    Isnt' it kinda ironic that an item found in their house & part of Casey's heinous crime is what I would like to use to permanently silence them along with their murdering slore, Henkel duct tape.   After much frustration I then pause knowing Casey will answer for her crimes & her family will continue in a living hell even if they don't face criminal charges along with her.

Sorry everyone that I don't know how to shorten stacks yet!  Capp- this never dawned on me until tonight (1st red bold)!  Clean-up had to be George/Lee.  IMO, George because he's had so much practice at cleaning up the family cars AND because he would have an idea what LE would be looking for.  I wonder when Lee arrived on the scene.  They talk like he was not there when they initially arrived with the car, but no one ever mentions him coming (he had an apartment nearby at the time).  They do mention Lee "being sent" to get Casey's things at  Tony's.  I wonder what time Lee normally got off from work, if he was off that day, or if CA & GA called him to come home immediately.  According to his statements, he was there waiting when they brought the car home, IIRC.
Point #2:  Why was Cindy picking Casey up and not best-brother-in-the-whole-world-always-got-my-back-covered-secret-keeper Lee?  Why didn't Lee contact Amy and then just go get Casey himself?  Did Cindy interject herself?  Why were George and Lee o.k. with this (particularly Lee), even though Cindy was the one who reportedly tried to choke Casey at their last encounter?  What were George and Lee doing that was so overridingly important that one/both/or even all three of them didn't go get Casey?  What was so necessary that they had to stay behind?  Seriously, George and Lee both are on record describing how volatile Casey & Cindy's relationship was.  They've just picked Casey's decomp-smelling car with an EMPTY car seat AND Caylee's favorite doll she always carried...and they're letting Cindy pick her up and confront her???  Cindy who has very little self control and has already tried to choke her.  Hhhhmmm.   Because the whole family was knee deep in cover-up, clean up, and destroy evidence, IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 10, 2009, 09:29:33 PM
Back reading, but just one more quick thought.  I don't think Cindy called 911 because she was so concerned about finding Caylee.  IMO, it was more a control thing..."I will make you tell me where Caylee is.  What happened to Caylee."  kind of thing.  She was angry she couldn't make Casey tell her the truth.   Per Lee, her first comment to Casey, "What have you done?'.  Cindy knew immediately Casey was responsible and everything after that was a production.  JMO  Off to read.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 10, 2009, 09:49:19 PM
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20838315/detail.html

Motion to Compel
::MonkeyCheer2::

SLAM!




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 10, 2009, 10:04:24 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-state-wants-to-see-defenses-evidence-about-dumping-of-caylees-remains.html

Casey Anthony: State wants to see defense's evidence about dumping of Caylee's remains
posted by halboedeker on Sep 10, 2009 7:06:38 PM


"State: Show Us the Proof," WESH-Channel 2 headlined the latest Casey Anthony story.

WKMG-Channel 6 put it this way: "Prosecutors Demand Evidence."

Both stations replayed footage of defense attorney Todd Macaluso saying last month in court that someone other than Anthony had put Caylee Anthony's remains in the woods. Casey Anthony is charged with the first-degree murder of her daughter, Caylee.

WFTV-Channel 9 anchor Martie Salt summed up the development this way: "The prosecution said it wants to see all the evidence to support the claim Casey didn't kill her 2-year-old daughter. Casey has maintained that someone else took Caylee last summer and dumped her body in the woods off Suburban Drive. Today the state asked the judge to force her defense to release all the evidence that supports that claim."

WKMG anchor Jacqueline London said, "In a motion filed today, the state says either the supposed evidence of innocence does not exist or defense team members are violating rules that require them to share in advance whatever they expect to use at trial."

WESH's Bob Kealing described Macaluso's claim as a "bombshell" that "stunned" everyone and "the first indication of what the defense's trial strategy would be."

Kealing added: "Under the rules of discovery, prosecutors say they're entitled to know what the evidence is and who Casey's defense will put on the stand to support it." Prosecutors expressed "strong skepticism that this evidence even exists."

Defense attorney Jose Baez's spokeswoman told Kealing that the attorney will follow the appropriate rules. "Presumably, he is going to turn over whatever evidence he has," Kealing concluded.

O.k., let's just play along for a minute with the defense that someone else did dump the body (not buying this for one milli-second).  George? Lee?  IMO, we can rule out Cindy doing the dumping because Cindy was likely at work (LE would have checked).  Since Lee probably was at work (LE would have checked IMO), George was the only other one home that day.  Anyone honestly think George would really go quietly under the bus to save his "Princess"?  NOT!  I think George patronizes Casey and let's her think she's in control when it suits him, but that gun purchase and his reported confrontation with Casey lead me to doubt the whole GA knight-in-shining-armor fantasy CA was plugging and the whole "Sweetheart!" and "Princess!" malarky.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Girlzrock on September 10, 2009, 10:06:36 PM
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20838315/detail.html

Motion to Compel

Loving this! Can't wait to see the response from the Duh-fense.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 10, 2009, 10:11:11 PM
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I have always thought cindys 911 calls were staged.Most people heard a very upset gramma when I only heard a very bad actress wannabe.

Me too, Karma.

She actually showed concerned emotion in that call. I think she can only show it when acting.

JMO.
Hi Brandi
Oh,cindy did sound scared and concern but not because of sweet Caylee,she showed those emotions because she was and still is in protective mode with casey.

Bingo, and it falls right in line with Cindy saying "I cant have that" in reference to anyone yelling at her slore while Lenny & crew were there along with George's friend Jim.   All the protection and excuses she has made since - what really sticks out to me also is not only how Cindy washed Casey's filthy stained pants with the car & then had to send them to the dry cleaners but admitting that she gave the FBI the wrong hair brush ON PURPOSE....who does that knowing a precious babygirl was murdered...ugh I wont ruin this day I've been happy dancing learning that the prosecution caught & acted on what I realized "Macadoodle dandy" bellowed in the courtroom...hehe that beeotch slapped him   ::MonkeyGavel::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: rmcalo on September 10, 2009, 10:26:31 PM
The state's motion to compel today was awesome! Of course, I know the lying sacks of sh defense team are never going to provide the requested evidence, but even so, they are on notice that their shenanigans will get them nowhere. Good luck providing that evidence, Biasbutt!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 10, 2009, 10:27:16 PM
Well, time to go!  Nice chatting (er, reading) with you.  LOL!  Hope you all have a good p.m. and take good care!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 10, 2009, 10:30:29 PM
What great news to find this evening!! Put up or shut up Bozo!!  Gotta love LDB!!  I find it amusing that Bozo's spokesperson said he abides by all the rules and regulations!  ::MonkeyHaHa::  This statement after he just went past his 15 days to hand over their BS discovery to the state.  ::MonkeyRoll:: This dream team is a joke in so many ways. Bozo obviously has no clue on how to handle a case, other than how to obtain money from the media, and the other 3 lawyers must be too busy to check out what is required of them by Florida law. Casey so deserves them. I just don't want their actions or lack of actions to cause a mistrial.

I Spy, I believe that George was at work the evening Cindy picked up Casey. I think he had to be there at 3:00. Now that still left him an hour or more to work on cleaning the car once they brought it home from the tow yard. But we have no idea when Lee actually showed up at the house other than his word. I also find it odd that we haven't seen George and Lee's phone records to verify this time frame and much more. 

I feel bad for ZG, and I was really ticked off about yesterday. But today we are seeing the wheels of justice for Caylee turning once again, and although many others are taking hits in this case, it's really about Caylee. She is the only one who paid the ultimate price in all of this.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Hiding Monkey on September 10, 2009, 10:36:31 PM
Hi Brandi!  I'm following you!  LOL!  So monkeys,  is there still a hearing on for tommorrow?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 10, 2009, 10:39:26 PM
Does anyone know which time frame the defense means that the body was placed in the woods after Casey was in jail? She had to different stays there. The first one before LP bailed her out and her current one that started in October. The defense knows what the discovery states about the time frame Caylee was in those woods. I can't wait to hear what they have to say because discovery will disprove either scenario. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 10, 2009, 11:02:16 PM
The state's motion to compel today was awesome! Of course, I know the lying sacks of sh defense team are never going to provide the requested evidence, but even so, they are on notice that their shenanigans will get them nowhere. Good luck providing that evidence, Biasbutt!!

Ummm...not to mention if they had something that exculpatory that cleared Casey of murder and/or disposing of a body they would be screaming to present it to work on dismissing the case, come on now.

And wait for it....how would the defense then explain away how & why any other indiviual would have came to the Anthony home & picked up particular items including this rare Henkel duct tape roll AFTER Casey was incarcerated in order to use on the mouth of this murdered babygirl who clearly was killed 6 months before she was found known by the condition she & the surroundings she was in were found.   The application of that duct tape would never had adhered the way it was brutality applied at the time of the murder, not even hours later.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 10, 2009, 11:12:15 PM

Prosecutors: Show Us Evidence Of Who Dumped Caylee
Motion Filed In Casey Anthony Case

<snipped>

"Marti McKenzie, a defense team spokeswoman, said Thursday, "Mr. Baez will always follow the appropriate rules and regulations of the law in Florida."


http://www.wesh.com/news/20838466/detail.html (http://www.wesh.com/news/20838466/detail.html)


 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::   ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyLaugh:: 

in what lifetime???? 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Sister on September 11, 2009, 12:09:42 AM

Prosecutors: Show Us Evidence Of Who Dumped Caylee
Motion Filed In Casey Anthony Case

<snipped>

"Marti McKenzie, a defense team spokeswoman, said Thursday, "Mr. Baez will always follow the appropriate rules and regulations of the law in Florida."

http://www.wesh.com/news/20838466/detail.html (http://www.wesh.com/news/20838466/detail.html)

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::   ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyLaugh:: 

in what lifetime???? 


In order to follow the rules and regulations, one my understand them . . . he give clueless a very, very bad name.
 :shock:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 11, 2009, 12:15:56 AM
<quote stack snipped>
I have always thought cindys 911 calls were staged.Most people heard a very upset gramma when I only heard a very bad actress wannabe.

Me too, Karma.

She actually showed concerned emotion in that call. I think she can only show it when acting.

JMO.
Hi Brandi
Oh,cindy did sound scared and concern but not because of sweet Caylee,she showed those emotions because she was and still is in protective mode with casey.

Bingo, and it falls right in line with Cindy saying "I cant have that" in reference to anyone yelling at her slore while Lenny & crew were there along with javascript:void(0); George's friend Jim.   All the protection and excuses she has made since - what really sticks out to me also is not only how Cindy washed Casey's filthy stained pants with the car & then had to send them to the dry cleaners but admitting that she gave the FBI the wrong hair brush ON PURPOSE....who does that knowing a precious babygirl was murdered...ugh I wont ruin this day I've been happy dancing learning that the prosecution caught & acted on what I realized "Macadoodle dandy" bellowed in the courtroom...hehe that beeotch slapped him   ::MonkeyGavel::



I think many of us caught that too. 

::MonkeyToot:: ::MonkeyToot::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 11, 2009, 12:19:34 AM
The state's motion to compel today was awesome! Of course, I know the lying sacks of sh defense team are never going to provide the requested evidence, but even so, they are on notice that their shenanigans will get them nowhere. Good luck providing that evidence, Biasbutt!!

it    <------------- just call me helpful monkey.  Sometimes the things between the lines are the best!~


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 11, 2009, 12:54:06 AM
Hi Monks... as usual, I really appreciate being able to come here and check out the latest in the case... Thank you all for commenting, posting goodies, and just for being here.

All caught up reading for tonight, and don't have time to stick around and post, but I wanted to second what my Monkey friends have been saying here in the cage for the past couple of eventful days:

I agree that that was a dismal, disappointing, deplorable performance yesterday by a sitting judge! (He now has over 500 negative votes on that survey site, btw.)  Who would have thought there would be two 'Jose's' in this case to be offended by?  IMO, this judge is obviously 'baezed'
::MonkeyHaHa:: <(Desi laughing at her own little joke there...)

Jose can you see?  Casey's going down!     ::MonkeyDance::
(Thank you, CBB for always remembering to throw in that special phrase I love so well.)


Wow, this motion today is a breath of fresh air, isn't it?!  I found it a true joy to read, every word -- it made me very happy. 

Linda Drane Burdick is a hero for Caylee!  Cheers to and her awesome team.  :smt041

Take care Monkeys, and keep up the good work.

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Brandi on September 11, 2009, 01:41:03 AM
Hi Monks... as usual, I really appreciate being able to come here and check out the latest in the case... Thank you all for commenting, posting goodies, and just for being here.

All caught up reading for tonight, and don't have time to stick around and post, but I wanted to second what my Monkey friends have been saying here in the cage for the past couple of eventful days:

I agree that that was a dismal, disappointing, deplorable performance yesterday by a sitting judge! (He now has over 500 negative votes on that survey site, btw.)  Who would have thought there would be two 'Jose's' in this case to be offended by?  IMO, this judge is obviously 'baezed'
::MonkeyHaHa:: <(Desi laughing at her own little joke there...)

Jose can you see?  Casey's going down!     ::MonkeyDance::
(Thank you, CBB for always remembering to throw in that special phrase I love so well.)


Wow, this motion today is a breath of fresh air, isn't it?!  I found it a true joy to read, every word -- it made me very happy. 

Linda Drane Burdick is a hero for Caylee!  Cheers to and her awesome team.  :smt041

Take care Monkeys, and keep up the good work.

 

Desi:

Always good to see you here and read your posts!

You said:
"Wow, this motion today is a breath of fresh air, isn't it?!  I found it a true joy to read, every word -- it made me very happy."

I felt exactly the same way. So professionally done and so perfect for the occasion!

I hang tight to the belief that justice will prevail in the end.

And this highlighted that belief for me today.





Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 11, 2009, 06:37:01 AM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 11, 2009, 06:45:30 AM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-state-wants-to-see-defenses-evidence-about-dumping-of-caylees-remains.html
Casey Anthony: State wants to see defense's evidence about dumping of Caylee's remains
posted by halboedeker on Sep 10, 2009 7:06:38 PM
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"State: Show Us the Proof," WESH-Channel 2 headlined the latest Casey Anthony story.

WKMG-Channel 6 put it this way: "Prosecutors Demand Evidence."

Both stations replayed footage of defense attorney Todd Macaluso saying last month in court that someone other than Anthony had put Caylee Anthony's remains in the woods. Casey Anthony is charged with the first-degree murder of her daughter, Caylee.

WFTV-Channel 9 anchor Martie Salt summed up the development this way: "The prosecution said it wants to see all the evidence to support the claim Casey didn't kill her 2-year-old daughter. Casey has maintained that someone else took Caylee last summer and dumped her body in the woods off Suburban Drive. Today the state asked the judge to force her defense to release all the evidence that supports that claim."

WKMG anchor Jacqueline London said, "In a motion filed today, the state says either the supposed evidence of innocence does not exist or defense team members are violating rules that require them to share in advance whatever they expect to use at trial."

WESH's Bob Kealing described Macaluso's claim as a "bombshell" that "stunned" everyone and "the first indication of what the defense's trial strategy would be."

Kealing added: "Under the rules of discovery, prosecutors say they're entitled to know what the evidence is and who Casey's defense will put on the stand to support it." Prosecutors expressed "strong skepticism that this evidence even exists."

Defense attorney Jose Baez's spokeswoman told Kealing that the attorney will follow the appropriate rules. "Presumably, he is going to turn over whatever evidence he has," Kealing concluded.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 11, 2009, 07:08:30 AM

Prosecutors: Show Us Evidence Of Who Dumped Caylee
Motion Filed In Casey Anthony Case

<snipped>

"Marti McKenzie, a defense team spokeswoman, said Thursday, "Mr. Baez will always follow the appropriate rules and regulations of the law in Florida."

http://www.wesh.com/news/20838466/detail.html (http://www.wesh.com/news/20838466/detail.html)

 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::   ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyLaugh:: 

in what lifetime???? 


In order to follow the rules and regulations, one my understand them . . . he give clueless a very, very bad name.
 :shock:

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Yes he does.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: theboyzmom on September 11, 2009, 07:27:27 AM
Snipped

Jose can you see?  Casey's going down!     ::MonkeyDance::
(Thank you, CBB for always remembering to throw in that special phrase I love so well.)



I do love this line - but everytime I hear it all I can think is Baez saying to himself - "Yes she does - on me anytime I ask - I sure miss those long days alone in my office!" 

Just call me perverted monkey!  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Jesse on September 11, 2009, 08:29:13 AM
Linda Drane Burdick is a hero for Caylee!  Cheers to and her awesome team

**************************
Yes she is...good thinking on her part to have the idiot bozo come forward with the so called evidence. I guess its kinda like how bozo came thru with the contracts that Lenny supposedly signed...NOT. This will be good, or it will be some trumped up thing by dom casey that he says he was in that area or they will try to say Tim was in the exact spot and didnt find caylee, watch it will be something we all say, OH BROTHER are you kidding.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: can on September 11, 2009, 08:32:37 AM
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh315/tclittleangels/good-morning.jpg)

Happy day to you too Trimm and to all the Monkeys!

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

Happy to read yesterdays prosecution motion.   ::MonkeyGavel::




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 11, 2009, 08:42:23 AM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20850570/detail.html
Dr. G Reflects On Caylee Autopsy
Garavaglia Talks About Opening Of New Medical Examiner's Office

POSTED: 8:14 am EDT September 11, 2009
UPDATED: 8:30 am EDT September 11, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The medical examiner who performed an autopsy on Caylee Anthony talked about it for the first time on Thursday.

Dr. Jan Garavaglia, who is also known as Dr. G, has remained quiet about the case since she confirmed the remains were those of Caylee in December.

At a luncheon on Thursday, Garavaglia talked to WESH 2 News about the rarity of finding a homicide victim without an official cause of death.

"Maybe not every year, but clearly every other year you get one or two," Garavaglia said.

Garavaglia also talked about the new offices that she'll move into next month.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 11, 2009, 08:44:34 AM
Dr.G video.     http://www.wesh.com/news/20850570/detail.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 11, 2009, 09:19:45 AM
Good Morning Monks old and new. 
I went back and read the state's motion to compel filed yesterday...casue it makes me feel good!  LOL ::MonkeyDevil::  and point #7 got me giggling at BOZO's incompetence!!

"The only response the defendant has made toward fulfilling her reciprocal obligation was a Defense Witness List filed November 20, 2008 and an Amended Defense Witness List filed January 22, 2009 due to an improper form of the original "

It goes on to state the only changes were  Dr. Kobilinsky or Dr. Lee neither of which  has been designated an expert witness according to Luis vs State!.

 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 11, 2009, 09:32:24 AM
Good morning Monkeys!  And Thank you for the updates Trimm.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Looks like Joy posted a video on youtube yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/v/N76MA51PRm8&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x3a3a3a&color2=0x999999&border=1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 11, 2009, 09:35:28 AM
Thanks cece, I thought Joy went bye bye from this case, but I guess that was wishfull thinking  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 11, 2009, 09:37:14 AM
I saw this on another site, thought it was funny.

If the Duct tape is rare, it sends Casey to the chair...  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 11, 2009, 09:40:24 AM
Thanks cece, I thought Joy went bye bye from this case, but I guess that was wishfull thinking  ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::CowWave::  Hi NoRose.  Yes, looks like wishful thinking.   ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 11, 2009, 09:42:00 AM
Good Morning Monks old and new. 
I went back and read the state's motion to compel filed yesterday...casue it makes me feel good!  LOL ::MonkeyDevil::  and point #7 got me giggling at BOZO's incompetence!!

"The only response the defendant has made toward fulfilling her reciprocal obligation was a Defense Witness List filed November 20, 2008 and an Amended Defense Witness List filed January 22, 2009 due to an improper form of the original "

It goes on to state the only changes were  Dr. Kobilinsky or Dr. Lee neither of which  has been designated an expert witness according to Luis vs State!.

 ::MonkeyJnBox::

Sunny - isn't great how she slipped those little tata's in there!  I printed it off and put it on the fridge- marked it with a big red A+


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 11, 2009, 09:44:34 AM
http://www.bloggernews.net/122196

Caylee Anthony - State Files New Motion On Case
Posted on September 11th, 2009
by Jan Barrett in All News, Op-ed, Society and Culture, crime
Read 37 times.

Well I think the state is finally making a wise call to the wannabe dream team that is representing Casey Anthony. The Florida woman is in jail on charges of first degree murder facing the death penalty for murdering her 2 year old daughter, Caylee Marie Anthony.

Prosecutors have filed a motion Thursday asking the courts to order the defense team to provide documents that they claim is substantial evidence that Caylee’s body was placed in the woods after Casey was put in jail so someone else had to have killed her.

Todd Macaluso told the courts on August 21 “There’s substantial evidence that we’ve discovered… that the body or the remains of Caylee Anthony were placed there after Casey Anthony was locked up in the Orange County Correctional facility.”

The motion is asking for the defense to give them names, addresses and all supporting documentation relative to their claim. Prosecutors says that all of the forensic evidence to date establishes to date that the remains of little Caylee had been deposited there many months prior to December 11, 2008.

The state argues that the defense team has reciprocal discovery obligations. Since the only response they have received was defense witness lists therefore having the state drawing their own conclusions as it states in the motion:

    “The only conclusion this Court can draw from the fact that no additional reciprocal discovery has been filed is (1) the exculpatory evidence does not exist, or (2) the defendant is intentionally violating the rules of discovery.”

The spokeswoman for the defense attorney Jose Baez, Marti Mackenzie, claims that Baez “abides by all the rules and regulations affecting any kind of criminal trial in Florida.”

OK now here is what my thoughts on this are. If, and I stretch the word IF a lot, they have any evidence that could possibly prove that Casey was innocent why would party girl allow them to withhold it until they go to trial? Why not give it to the prosecutors now and if it is good enough to clear her of these charges she could be released now and not keep her there with the tax payers feeding her and putting a roof over her head.

The only conclusion I have on this matter is that of course their so called evidence won’t prove she didn’t do this. Besides even if it could cause a shadow of a doubt that the baby’s remains were put there after Casey was arrested, that doesn’t mean she didn’t kill her. Someone could have put her in those woods where someone would find it and then they could claim exactly what the defense is trying to say now. Maybe this was what Lee Anthony meant at the memorial service when he left his little message in his words for CMA about keeping his promise. Or maybe this was what their code talk was about when he would visit her in jail. I personally think that any one of the Anthony clan would do anything Casey tells them to do including helping her cover up what really happened to her daughter.

Sorry, but there is no doubt in my mind that Casey did this to her daughter. Perhaps it was an accident and she panicked. Maybe she was scared so she decided to cover it up and got her family to go along with her to keep her out of trouble. We all know how Casey got what she wanted around her family. As George told her while visiting her in jail, she is in charge just like she always is.

So even if this started out as an accident they have turned it into a murder case and it is too late now to say she is innocent. They have taken this way too far and carried it out way too long to say it was an accident. Too many innocent people have been hurt from this, all to cover up for one little spoiled brat that is use to having everything her way.

Poor little Caylee is the one that has suffered with her life. This precious child is lost to this world and the person responsible for that should have to pay. I am not a heartless person but I do not feel sorry for Casey Anthony and now I do not feel sorry for her parents because I feel they have turned their backs on little Caylee so they can support their daughter. They know she is guilty but yet they fight to get her off these charges. What are they hoping for? That she will be set free so she can get pregnant again and give them another grandbaby to replace Caylee? I sure hope that will never happen.

God Bless You Caylee Marie Anthony! We all love you and we are waiting for you to get the justice you so rightly deserve.

Jan Barrett


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 11, 2009, 09:48:54 AM
I saw this on another site, thought it was funny.

If the Duct tape is rare, it sends Casey to the chair...  ::MonkeyDance::

 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 11, 2009, 09:52:25 AM
Dr.G video.     http://www.wesh.com/news/20850570/detail.html

Good Morning Monkeys!!

Dr. G. spoke some very encouraging words in this video. Many cases across the US have have had successful outcomes at the trial where no cause of death had been determined. 

O/T Please take a moment to say a prayer for the families of the victims of 9/11.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 11, 2009, 09:52:32 AM
Good morning Monkeys!  And Thank you for the updates Trimm.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Looks like Joy posted a video on youtube yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/v/N76MA51PRm8&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x3a3a3a&color2=0x999999&border=1

JMO - had Joy NOT injected herself, her photo's, and not been ::MonkeyToot:: (tooting her own horn) I could look at this video in a different prospective. IMO This really isn't a video about Caylee....but a video about Joy's obsession with Caylee. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 11, 2009, 09:54:29 AM
Dr.G video.     http://www.wesh.com/news/20850570/detail.html


Thanks again Trimm.

I think Dr. G. did an excellent job of answering the questions.  Very professional.  Yes, Caylee seems to have a great team working to bring Justice for her.
 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 11, 2009, 09:56:27 AM
Dr.G video.     http://www.wesh.com/news/20850570/detail.html

Good Morning Monkeys!!

Dr. G. spoke some very encouraging words in this video. Many cases across the US have have had successful outcomes at the trial where no cause of death had been determined. 

O/T Please take a moment to say a prayer for the families of the victims of 9/11.

Thank you tupelohoney.  I left one in the prayer thread.   ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 11, 2009, 09:58:55 AM
Good morning Monkeys!  And Thank you for the updates Trimm.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Looks like Joy posted a video on youtube yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/v/N76MA51PRm8&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x3a3a3a&color2=0x999999&border=1

JMO - had Joy NOT injected herself, her photo's, and not been ::MonkeyToot:: (tooting her own horn) I could look at this video in a different prospective. IMO This really isn't a video about Caylee....but a video about Joy's obsession with Caylee. 

I agree Sunny.  She inserted herself in this with her own agenda (JMO).  Maybe I'm being too cynical, but that's just the way I feel about it also.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: CasuallyCool on September 11, 2009, 09:59:49 AM
Dr. G Reflects On Caylee Autopsy
Garavaglia Talks About Opening Of New Medical Examiner's Office
POSTED: 8:14 am EDT September 11, 2009
UPDATED: 8:30 am EDT September 11, 2009

The medical examiner who performed an autopsy on Caylee Anthony talked about it for the first time on Thursday.

Dr. Jan Garavaglia, who is also known as Dr. G, has remained quiet about the case since she confirmed the remains were those of Caylee in December.

At a luncheon on Thursday, Garavaglia talked to WESH 2 News about the rarity of finding a homicide victim without an official cause of death.

"Maybe not every year, but clearly every other year you get one or two," Garavaglia said.

VIDEO: Uncut: Dr. G On Caylee Autopsy
http://www.wesh.com/video/20850586/index.html

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Jesse on September 11, 2009, 10:01:41 AM
what exactly is Joy trying to say? that caylee wasnt there? and why, what does she have to gain by this. Its ridiculous that people no longer think about the poor angel child that was murdered and want only their 5 minutes of what they see as fame. She comes across as a kook, who would want her on the stand to say anything


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 11, 2009, 10:07:15 AM
Good Evening Monkeys and Guest!
That Motion to Compel just made my day.....I will not name names, but you all remember the dumb one who went running to LE saying she searched with Tim in that area.and had pics to prove it....I see her going under Bozo's bus as the one who put Caylee's lil body there. But I have Faith in God that little Caylee will get her Justice.

Joy to the world, all the boys and girls now, JOY to the fishes in the deep blue see, JOY to you and me...wink wink

Now that would be a hoot!


 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 11, 2009, 10:16:46 AM
Thanks cece, I thought Joy went bye bye from this case, but I guess that was wishfull thinking  ::MonkeyRoll::

 ::CowWave::  Hi NoRose.  Yes, looks like wishful thinking.   ::MonkeyDevil2::

The Florida courts have officially recorded Joy's mental instability in at least 1 of her own criminal cases....doesn't McClueless know this?........Ummmmmm, probably not....he's clueless. ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 11, 2009, 10:17:27 AM
Good morning Monkeys!  And Thank you for the updates Trimm.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Looks like Joy posted a video on youtube yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/v/N76MA51PRm8&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x3a3a3a&color2=0x999999&border=1

JMO - had Joy NOT injected herself, her photo's, and not been ::MonkeyToot:: (tooting her own horn) I could look at this video in a different prospective. IMO This really isn't a video about Caylee....but a video about Joy's obsession with Caylee. 

I agree Sunny.  She inserted herself in this with her own agenda (JMO).  Maybe I'm being too cynical, but that's just the way I feel about it also.

Nah, that's not cynical. That's how the crazy lady acts. Ick! Another narcissist in the bunch.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 11, 2009, 10:18:33 AM
what exactly is Joy trying to say? that caylee wasnt there? and why, what does she have to gain by this. Its ridiculous that people no longer think about the poor angel child that was murdered and want only their 5 minutes of what they see as fame. She comes across as a kook, who would want her on the stand to say anything
Not only does she come across as a kook, her medical history shows she has mental issues, which the state will quickly point out. Next witness.....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 11, 2009, 10:20:27 AM
Dr.G video.     http://www.wesh.com/news/20850570/detail.html


Thanks again Trimm.

I think Dr. G. did an excellent job of answering the questions.  Very professional.  Yes, Caylee seems to have a great team working to bring Justice for her.
 ::MonkeyAngel::

Dr. G is awesome! I like also how she stated about them being transparent with the show... how that helps the public see things. Good lady and good example of honesty! Something the defense sure ain't.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 11, 2009, 10:21:37 AM
Beautiful picture CC.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: seemeatthebeach on September 11, 2009, 10:25:31 AM
I've been looking around and came across this slideshow that Casey created. Some of the pics we have seen before but she has added her own captions. Too bad the mystery guy with the tattoos isn't in here.   http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68989&page=6
Is anyone a member at WS that can get these images(down below on same page as the slideshow)from georges phone and post them here?I am not a member so I can't even view the images.

http://www.slide.com/r/XputCOLl6j-Wy8hxtCCoQmv25F7QzohT?previous_view=lt_embedded_url


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 11, 2009, 10:26:32 AM
I like this picture. Linda has that look on her face. I've noticed she has it now and then. Trying to be professional but at the same time you're wondering if she's thinking what you're thinking. Baez is such an @ss!

But I'd never play poker with the lady. She's got herself very professionally contained.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 11, 2009, 10:32:24 AM
I've been looking around and came across this slideshow that Casey created. Some of the pics we have seen before but she has added her own captions. Too bad the mystery guy with the tattoos isn't in here.   http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68989&page=6
Is anyone a member at WS that can get these images(down below on same page as the slideshow)from georges phone and post them here?I am not a member so I can't even view the images.

http://www.slide.com/r/XputCOLl6j-Wy8hxtCCoQmv25F7QzohT?previous_view=lt_embedded_url

what's with that "my momma is cooler than yours" crap? What's she saying? Or is that cindy saying her momma is cooler than kc's? he he. i'd have to agree that Shirley has them both beat hands down!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 11, 2009, 10:34:17 AM
I saw this on another site, thought it was funny.

If the Duct tape is rare, it sends Casey to the chair...  ::MonkeyDance::

 ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 11, 2009, 10:44:40 AM
Dr.G video.     http://www.wesh.com/news/20850570/detail.html

Good Morning Monkeys!!

Dr. G. spoke some very encouraging words in this video. Many cases across the US have have had successful outcomes at the trial where no cause of death had been determined. 

O/T Please take a moment to say a prayer for the families of the victims of 9/11.

 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 11, 2009, 01:46:08 PM
Search to resume for missing woman

LOWER MERION — A Texas team that specializes in looking for missing people searched the Schuylkill River on Thursday, using sonar in an effort to find the West Brandywine woman, who has been missing for 19 days.

Tim Miller, the founder of Texas EquuSearch, said the team had seen some images on their sonar that "sparked their interest," leading to speculation that they had found the woman's car.

MORE....

http://www.pottsmerc.com/articles/2009/09/11/news/doc4aaa40547eb74094479211.txt

OK, where is Georgie, Extreme BASS Search and Rescue, the Milstead"s with Kid Finders to help in the search??????  Yet another example of what a pile of cull brap about the Ant's dedication to help find the missing.   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Missiontoconvict on September 11, 2009, 01:49:18 PM
Search to resume for missing woman

LOWER MERION — A Texas team that specializes in looking for missing people searched the Schuylkill River on Thursday, using sonar in an effort to find the West Brandywine woman, who has been missing for 19 days.

Tim Miller, the founder of Texas EquuSearch, said the team had seen some images on their sonar that "sparked their interest," leading to speculation that they had found the woman's car.

MORE....

http://www.pottsmerc.com/articles/2009/09/11/news/doc4aaa40547eb74094479211.txt

OK, where is Georgie, Extreme BASS Search and Rescue, the Milstead"s with Kid Finders to help in the search??????  Yet another example of what a pile of cull brap about the Ant's dedication to help find the missing.   ::MonkeyMad::

All good questions Northern Rose - the only dedication on the Scamthony's part is to find money.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Jesse on September 11, 2009, 01:56:56 PM
All good questions Northern Rose - the only dedication on the Scamthony's part is to find money.

***************************
yes and their little tug boat they supposedly got for this reason


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 11, 2009, 02:33:26 PM
Good morning Monkeys!  And Thank you for the updates Trimm.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Looks like Joy posted a video on youtube yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/v/N76MA51PRm8&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x3a3a3a&color2=0x999999&border=1

JMO - had Joy NOT injected herself, her photo's, and not been ::MonkeyToot:: (tooting her own horn) I could look at this video in a different prospective. IMO This really isn't a video about Caylee....but a video about Joy's obsession with Caylee. 

I agree Sunny.  She inserted herself in this with her own agenda (JMO).  Maybe I'm being too cynical, but that's just the way I feel about it also.

The timing of this new video is very interesting but actually fabulous for the prosecution that she put yet something else out there.   A)  Joy's mental status and court record will discredit anything she has to say  B)  She provided yet another video of her returning to the recovery crime scene where she was trespassing beyond curbside, taking a picture where the trespassing sign is no less!   The reason this is compeling is because going back to when Joy tried to insert herself into the investigation after the body was discovered & Phil Keaton of Foxnews caught her on air advancing her story to detectives that she had pictures that showed there was no water in that area in August & that Tim Miller "was lying," she then refused to talk on camera.   She also tried to interfere with her friend "cowboy" and cause a scene when Lenny & crew were at Blanchard Park with the diving team.  She also was at the KFN "meet and greet" with the Anthonys the same day Dominic & Jim were sent to those same Suburban Drive woods IN NOV.   I spoke personally to Yuri about this at length as some of you may recall.    The end of her new youtube is clearly indicating that she is putting it out there that someone else did this to Caylee   "May Caylee get justice for who ever left her there not to be found"    If the defense puts her, her hubbie or their friend "cowboy" on the stand I'm going to need an intervention because I will be laughing hysterically!  Give me a flippin break, coo coo for coco puffs!

PS as I said 3 or 4 pages back, they can claim "someone else" dumped the body AFTER Casey was incarerated all they want because they will NOT be able to explain away the "rare" duct tape that came from the Anthony home & was brutality applied to Caylee at the time of her murder & matches what was on the very gas cans Casey stole from their shed to put gas in her car - the condition of her body & surroundings she was in will indicate that the tape was adhered to her mouth when she was killed & would not be able to be applied later in the manner it was found, not even hours later much less months.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/mslaitte/PATRIOTIC-TRI/911StillInPrayer.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/mslaitte/PATRIOTIC-TRI/911weRememberBracelet.gif)
My son a hero among them


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 02:41:41 PM
Dr. G Reflects On Caylee Autopsy
Garavaglia Talks About Opening Of New Medical Examiner's Office
POSTED: 8:14 am EDT September 11, 2009
UPDATED: 8:30 am EDT September 11, 2009

The medical examiner who performed an autopsy on Caylee Anthony talked about it for the first time on Thursday.

Dr. Jan Garavaglia, who is also known as Dr. G, has remained quiet about the case since she confirmed the remains were those of Caylee in December.

At a luncheon on Thursday, Garavaglia talked to WESH 2 News about the rarity of finding a homicide victim without an official cause of death.

"Maybe not every year, but clearly every other year you get one or two," Garavaglia said.

VIDEO: Uncut: Dr. G On Caylee Autopsy
http://www.wesh.com/video/20850586/index.html

(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/CasuallyCool/skyline3.jpg)

Thank you for posting this CC. Dr G has been my hero since I found out Caylee was missing. I knew she would probably the one who would do the autopsy. She is one of the angels on Caylee's side.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 02:54:55 PM
Dr.G video.     http://www.wesh.com/news/20850570/detail.html

TRIMM, I am reading back. I see I should have thanked you for this too.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: monkalicious on September 11, 2009, 02:59:23 PM
Good afternoon, monkey peeps!  So who can tell me, if Baez ever does turn over what has to be bogus evidence, or at the very least questionable evidence, does that mean we get to see it, too?  Oh, and about J-Wray, did anyone else notice that she states in her youtube video, All pictures are "take" by me?  Does she really talk like that? Or is she just woefully uneducated?  Or has the wackiness ensued? ::MonkeyToot::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 11, 2009, 03:14:53 PM
Good afternoon, monkey peeps!  So who can tell me, if Baez ever does turn over what has to be bogus evidence, or at the very least questionable evidence, does that mean we get to see it, too?  Oh, and about J-Wray, did anyone else notice that she states in her youtube video, All pictures are "take" by me?  Does she really talk like that? Or is she just woefully uneducated?  Or has the wackiness ensued? ::MonkeyToot::

Yes, she is not articulate nor sane


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Brandi on September 11, 2009, 03:50:08 PM
Good afternoon, monkey peeps!  So who can tell me, if Baez ever does turn over what has to be bogus evidence, or at the very least questionable evidence, does that mean we get to see it, too?  Oh, and about J-Wray, did anyone else notice that she states in her youtube video, All pictures are "take" by me?  Does she really talk like that? Or is she just woefully uneducated?  Or has the wackiness ensued? ::MonkeyToot::

Yeah, I noticed what she wrote at the end of the video as credits. Very strange. Following are her words and punctuation:

Made by Joy Wray

All photos at the memorial site where

take by me (Joy Wray)

Music by One Step Beyond

May Caylee Get Justice ,

for whoever that left

her there to not be found

Very strangely worded as well, IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 11, 2009, 03:56:43 PM
Dr.G video.     http://www.wesh.com/news/20850570/detail.html

trim thanks for the link....Dr. G is a true professional!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 11, 2009, 03:57:58 PM
I saw this on another site, thought it was funny.

If the Duct tape is rare, it sends Casey to the chair...  ::MonkeyDance::

WO - I like that!  LOL ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 11, 2009, 04:03:02 PM
Good Morning Monks old and new. 
I went back and read the state's motion to compel filed yesterday...casue it makes me feel good!  LOL ::MonkeyDevil::  and point #7 got me giggling at BOZO's incompetence!!

"The only response the defendant has made toward fulfilling her reciprocal obligation was a Defense Witness List filed November 20, 2008 and an Amended Defense Witness List filed January 22, 2009 due to an improper form of the original "

It goes on to state the only changes were  Dr. Kobilinsky or Dr. Lee neither of which  has been designated an expert witness according to Luis vs State!.

 ::MonkeyJnBox::

Sunny - isn't great how she slipped those little tata's in there!  I printed it off and put it on the fridge- marked it with a big red A+


 Hi ANJ - is sure was.....she is certainly going to be a force to be reckoned with.....BOZO needs to step down as lead counsel, get off his ego trip and start taking the LIFE of his client into consideration!!

I am still waiting to hear more on lyons stating the a's should be ALLOWED visitation with kc.....that suddenly went mute!

And I wonder if the A's have started writing kc directly?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 11, 2009, 04:45:10 PM
http://suncoastpinellas.tbo.com/content/2009/sep/11/111419/clearwater-boy-was-reported-missing-9-years-ago-to/


For 3 Florida families, 9/11 is a day to remember vanished children

(snipped)

Cindy and George Anthony were also at this morning's walk. The Anthony's daughter is currently in jail, accused of killing her daughter, and their granddaughter, Caylee Anthony.

George Anthony said he attended the event to show his support for other families who've lost loved ones.

"There's some individuals out there that they think,'this will never happen to me. I don't have to worry about it,'" Anthony said. "But when it does, we're going to be there to help them."


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 11, 2009, 04:55:23 PM
http://suncoastpinellas.tbo.com/content/2009/sep/11/111419/clearwater-boy-was-reported-missing-9-years-ago-to/


For 3 Florida families, 9/11 is a day to remember vanished children

(snipped)

Cindy and George Anthony were also at this morning's walk. The Anthony's daughter is currently in jail, accused of killing her daughter, and their granddaughter, Caylee Anthony.

George Anthony said he attended the event to show his support for other families who've lost loved ones.

"There's some individuals out there that they think,'this will never happen to me. I don't have to worry about it,'" Anthony said. "But when it does, we're going to be there to help them."


Ugh - pardon me while I puke.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 11, 2009, 04:56:53 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20838466/detail.html
Prosecutors: Show Us Evidence Of Who Dumped Caylee
Motion Filed In Casey Anthony Case

POSTED: 4:28 pm EDT September 10, 2009
UPDATED: 4:18 pm EDT September 11, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Prosecutors want defense attorneys to provide documents about their claim that someone other than Casey Anthony disposed of her daughter Caylee's body.

In a motion filed late Thursday, the state attorney's office asks a judge to order Anthony's attorneys to turn over "the names and addresses as well as all supporting documentation" about their claim, which was made in court as recently as last month.

Prosecutors said they have the right to review the evidence as part of the discovery process, where each side turns over evidence in preparation for a trial.

Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in connection with the death of her daughter, whose remains were found in woods in Orange County in December 2008. Anthony is in Orange County Jail awaiting trial sometimes next year.

The defense has suggested there is evidence that Casey Anthony was in jail at the time when Caylee's body could have been dumped. They point to searches of the area that did not turn up the body, including during a time Anthony was in jail.

Baez has not said specifically how he plans to respond to the motion.
Marti McKenzie, a defense team spokeswoman, said Thursday, "Mr. Baez will always follow the appropriate rules and regulations of the law in Florida." (PDF: Read The Motion)

Defense Attorney Richard Hornsby said that if the evidence Anthony's defense team discovered came from the state that they have every right to keep it to themselves.

"There's thousands of documents, hundreds of witnesses, it's not unusual for a defense attorney to take that evidence and use it against them at trial," he said.

Anthony's defense has said they have evidence from Texas Equusearch suggesting the area where Caylee's remains were found was dry when it was searched in November. Texas Equusearch attorney Mark NeJame, however, said he knows nothing about that.

In a related matter, attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez said in a new motion they are willing to drop their quest to force Casey Anthony to answer questions if it means their civil defamation lawsuit does not get put on the back burner.
. Gonzalez shares the same name with the woman Anthony said kidnapped Caylee. In their argument, Gonzalez's lawyers said "there is no room for sympathy because a civil defendant has serious criminal problems."

This week, the judge said he wanted to reconsider delaying Gonzalez's suit because Anthony is now facing a death penalty trial. He's expected to rule on this issue in about a month.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 05:01:25 PM
http://suncoastpinellas.tbo.com/content/2009/sep/11/111419/clearwater-boy-was-reported-missing-9-years-ago-to/


For 3 Florida families, 9/11 is a day to remember vanished children

(snipped)

Cindy and George Anthony were also at this morning's walk. The Anthony's daughter is currently in jail, accused of killing her daughter, and their granddaughter, Caylee Anthony.

George Anthony said he attended the event to show his support for other families who've lost loved ones.

"There's some individuals out there that they think,'this will never happen to me. I don't have to worry about it,'" Anthony said. "But when it does, we're going to be there to help them."

I think George and Spindy are more despicable every day that goes by.

I have nothing but compassion and feelings of love for the families of the missing. I cannot even begin to understand their pain. I am sure that none of them have profitted off the person missing from their life. All they want is their loved one back or found. I feel I must add, just my opinion, lest my viewpoint is attacked.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 11, 2009, 05:12:46 PM
http://suncoastpinellas.tbo.com/content/2009/sep/11/111419/clearwater-boy-was-reported-missing-9-years-ago-to/


For 3 Florida families, 9/11 is a day to remember vanished children

(snipped)

Cindy and George Anthony were also at this morning's walk. The Anthony's daughter is currently in jail, accused of killing her daughter, and their granddaughter, Caylee Anthony.

George Anthony said he attended the event to show his support for other families who've lost loved ones.

"There's some individuals out there that they think,'this will never happen to me. I don't have to worry about it,'" Anthony said. "But when it does, we're going to be there to help them."

I think George and Spindy are more despicable every day that goes by.

I have nothing but compassion and feelings of love for the families of the missing. I cannot even begin to understand their pain. I am sure that none of them have profitted off the person missing from their life. All they want is their loved one back or found. I feel I must add, just my opinion, lest my viewpoint is attacked.   ::MonkeyAngel::

No attacks here, Fanny. ITA!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 11, 2009, 05:16:39 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20838466/detail.html
Prosecutors: Show Us Evidence Of Who Dumped Caylee
Motion Filed In Casey Anthony Case

POSTED: 4:28 pm EDT September 10, 2009
UPDATED: 4:18 pm EDT September 11, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Prosecutors want defense attorneys to provide documents about their claim that someone other than Casey Anthony disposed of her daughter Caylee's body.

In a motion filed late Thursday, the state attorney's office asks a judge to order Anthony's attorneys to turn over "the names and addresses as well as all supporting documentation" about their claim, which was made in court as recently as last month.

Prosecutors said they have the right to review the evidence as part of the discovery process, where each side turns over evidence in preparation for a trial.

Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in connection with the death of her daughter, whose remains were found in woods in Orange County in December 2008. Anthony is in Orange County Jail awaiting trial sometimes next year.

The defense has suggested there is evidence that Casey Anthony was in jail at the time when Caylee's body could have been dumped. They point to searches of the area that did not turn up the body, including during a time Anthony was in jail.

Baez has not said specifically how he plans to respond to the motion.
Marti McKenzie, a defense team spokeswoman, said Thursday, "Mr. Baez will always follow the appropriate rules and regulations of the law in Florida." (PDF: Read The Motion)

Defense Attorney Richard Hornsby said that if the evidence Anthony's defense team discovered came from the state that they have every right to keep it to themselves.

"There's thousands of documents, hundreds of witnesses, it's not unusual for a defense attorney to take that evidence and use it against them at trial," he said.

Anthony's defense has said they have evidence from Texas Equusearch suggesting the area where Caylee's remains were found was dry when it was searched in November. Texas Equusearch attorney Mark NeJame, however, said he knows nothing about that.

In a related matter, attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez said in a new motion they are willing to drop their quest to force Casey Anthony to answer questions if it means their civil defamation lawsuit does not get put on the back burner.
. Gonzalez shares the same name with the woman Anthony said kidnapped Caylee. In their argument, Gonzalez's lawyers said "there is no room for sympathy because a civil defendant has serious criminal problems."

This week, the judge said he wanted to reconsider delaying Gonzalez's suit because Anthony is now facing a death penalty trial. He's expected to rule on this issue in about a month.

Thanks Trimm.

Surely this is about crazy Jwray. Right?

About the civil case...is it wise not to get kc to answer?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 11, 2009, 05:26:29 PM
I think They would throw Joy under the bus in a heartbeat.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 11, 2009, 05:29:04 PM
Does anyone know how long Baez has to respond ?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 11, 2009, 05:45:41 PM
http://suncoastpinellas.tbo.com/content/2009/sep/11/111419/clearwater-boy-was-reported-missing-9-years-ago-to/


For 3 Florida families, 9/11 is a day to remember vanished children

(snipped)

Cindy and George Anthony were also at this morning's walk. The Anthony's daughter is currently in jail, accused of killing her daughter, and their granddaughter, Caylee Anthony.

George Anthony said he attended the event to show his support for other families who've lost loved ones.

"There's some individuals out there that they think,'this will never happen to me. I don't have to worry about it,'" Anthony said. "But when it does, we're going to be there to help them."

georgie....Caylee did not vanish...Caylee was MURDERED!!! IMO BY HER OWN MOTHER AND YOU KNOW IT!!~!! Stop trying to align yourself with grieving families. ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 11, 2009, 05:47:37 PM
Does anyone know how long Baez has to respond ?

I think 15 days.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 11, 2009, 05:49:42 PM
Does anyone know how long Baez has to respond ?

I think it is 15 days and long past due.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 11, 2009, 05:49:59 PM
http://suncoastpinellas.tbo.com/content/2009/sep/11/111419/clearwater-boy-was-reported-missing-9-years-ago-to/


For 3 Florida families, 9/11 is a day to remember vanished children

(snipped)

Cindy and George Anthony were also at this morning's walk. The Anthony's daughter is currently in jail, accused of killing her daughter, and their granddaughter, Caylee Anthony.

George Anthony said he attended the event to show his support for other families who've lost loved ones.

"There's some individuals out there that they think,'this will never happen to me. I don't have to worry about it,'" Anthony said. "But when it does, we're going to be there to help them."


Ugh - pardon me while I puke.
I'll join you :smt078


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 11, 2009, 05:50:56 PM
Does anyone know how long Baez has to respond ?

I think 15 days.

LOL trim we posted at EXACTLY the same time!! ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 11, 2009, 05:53:27 PM
I think They would throw Joy under the bus in a heartbeat.   ::MonkeyCool::
And she would probably go willingly under  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 11, 2009, 05:54:53 PM
Does anyone know how long Baez has to respond ?

I think 15 days.

LOL trim we posted at EXACTLY the same time!! ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyCheer4::  Heck I got kicked out of the cage twice.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 11, 2009, 05:56:52 PM
I think They would throw Joy under the bus in a heartbeat.   ::MonkeyCool::
And she would probably go willingly under  ::MonkeyRoll::

From what I've read... I think she actually would.  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 11, 2009, 05:57:57 PM
Sunny,this O/T,but you have to read this snake story.
http://www.wesh.com/news/20859357/detail.html

To make it on topic,I was looking for anything Anthony.   ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 11, 2009, 05:58:41 PM
I think They would throw Joy under the bus in a heartbeat.   ::MonkeyCool::
And she would probably go willingly under  ::MonkeyRoll::

From what I've read... I think she actually would.  ::MonkeyConfused::

I wish her family would keep her home and keep her quiet.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 11, 2009, 06:02:57 PM
http://suncoastpinellas.tbo.com/content/2009/sep/11/111419/clearwater-boy-was-reported-missing-9-years-ago-to/


For 3 Florida families, 9/11 is a day to remember vanished children

(snipped)

Cindy and George Anthony were also at this morning's walk. The Anthony's daughter is currently in jail, accused of killing her daughter, and their granddaughter, Caylee Anthony.

George Anthony said he attended the event to show his support for other families who've lost loved ones.

"There's some individuals out there that they think,'this will never happen to me. I don't have to worry about it,'" Anthony said. "But when it does, we're going to be there to help them."

I guess the Anthony's have learned to not put out special events on their site. Had I known about this event today, as this is in my neck of the woods, I would have gone just to see if the Ants were asking for donations or not and maybe to even give them a little piece of my mind. Now Monday they will be in Tallahassee for the Florida Missing Children's Day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 11, 2009, 06:05:20 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/20838466/detail.html
Prosecutors: Show Us Evidence Of Who Dumped Caylee
Motion Filed In Casey Anthony Case

POSTED: 4:28 pm EDT September 10, 2009
UPDATED: 5:54 pm EDT September 11, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Prosecutors want defense attorneys to provide documents about their claim that someone other than Casey Anthony disposed of her daughter Caylee's body.

In a motion filed late Thursday, the state attorney's office asks a judge to order Anthony's attorneys to turn over "the names and addresses as well as all supporting documentation" about their claim, which was made in court as recently as last month.

Prosecutors said they have the right to review the evidence as part of the discovery process, where each side turns over evidence in preparation for a trial.

Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in connection with the death of her daughter, whose remains were found in woods in Orange County in December 2008. Anthony is in Orange County Jail awaiting trial sometimes next year.

The defense has suggested there is evidence that Casey Anthony was in jail at the time when Caylee's body could have been dumped. They point to searches of the area that did not turn up the body, including during a time Anthony was in jail.
<snipped>


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 11, 2009, 06:07:24 PM

Does anyone know how long Baez has to respond ?

I think 15 days.

LOL trim we posted at EXACTLY the same time!! ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyCheer4::  Heck I got kicked out of the cage twice.

I did too!  Only once though!! ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 11, 2009, 06:09:40 PM
Sunny,this O/T,but you have to read this snake story.
http://www.wesh.com/news/20859357/detail.html

To make it on topic,I was looking for anything Anthony.   ::MonkeyRoll::

trim, my dahling!!  do you really think I would click on that link once you mentioned SNAKE!!   NOT A SHOT!! ::MonkeyTease::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 11, 2009, 06:25:32 PM
(http://www2.tbo.com/exposure/ar/0/642/2009/09/11/13313_missing-children.jpg)
Roy Brown, left, whose daughter Amanda went missing on Sept. 11, 1998, talks with George Anthony, whose granddaughter Caylee was found dead last year, at the Forget Us Not Walk in honor of missing and murdered children.

(http://www2.tbo.com/exposure/ar/0/642/2009/09/11/13316_missing-children.jpg)
Families of missing or murdered children, including Amanda Brown, Zachary Bernhardt, Caylee Anthony and Hayleigh Cummings, gather to honor their memory at the Forget Us Not Walk, Sept. 11, 2009.


Link to gallery:

http://www2.tbo.com/photoalbum/2009/sep/11/missing-children/5/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 11, 2009, 06:27:05 PM
Does anyone know how long Baez has to respond ?

I think 15 days.

LOL trim we posted at EXACTLY the same time!! ::MonkeyHaHa::

 ::MonkeyCool::  Thanks !;  So now it's another 15 days since he missed the original 15 day deadline before ?   It will be interesting to see what he does now.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 11, 2009, 06:28:16 PM
Thanks,Cece.   ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 11, 2009, 06:29:34 PM
Nice shoes George!   ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

Sorry, I couldn't resist.  They don't look like they've been used much for looking for missing children.
 ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 11, 2009, 06:30:58 PM
Thanks,Cece.   ::MonkeyBike::

 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 06:31:42 PM
I think They would throw Joy under the bus in a heartbeat.   ::MonkeyCool::
And she would probably go willingly under  ::MonkeyRoll::

From what I've read... I think she actually would.  ::MonkeyConfused::

And feel like a martyr doing it. With butterflies fluttering around.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 11, 2009, 06:33:22 PM
Roy Brown, left, whose daughter Amanda went missing on Sept. 11, 1998, talks with George Anthony, whose granddaughter Caylee was found dead last year, at the Forget Us Not Walk in honor of missing and murdered children.

Families of missing or murdered children, including Amanda Brown, Zachary Bernhardt, Caylee Anthony and Hayleigh Cummings, gather to honor their memory at the Forget Us Not Walk, Sept. 11, 2009.


Link to gallery:

http://www2.tbo.com/photoalbum/2009/sep/11/missing-children/5/

How...how...HOWWWWW can they dare show their faces at places like that and try to make themselves fit in?  ::MonkeyMad::

I'm going to go find that bottle of merlot I had the other day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 11, 2009, 06:34:28 PM
I think They would throw Joy under the bus in a heartbeat.   ::MonkeyCool::
And she would probably go willingly under  ::MonkeyRoll::

From what I've read... I think she actually would.  ::MonkeyConfused::

And feel like a martyr doing it. With butterflies fluttering around.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

Fanny...I love your humor.  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 11, 2009, 06:35:45 PM
Nice shoes George!   ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

Sorry, I couldn't resist.  They don't look like they've been used much for looking for missing children.
 ::MonkeyDevil2::

ROFL...you caught that too huh? spindy's caught my eye first... then I saw george's...someone has been shopping.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Babybear on September 11, 2009, 06:35:59 PM
http://suncoastpinellas.tbo.com/content/2009/sep/11/111419/clearwater-boy-was-reported-missing-9-years-ago-to/


For 3 Florida families, 9/11 is a day to remember vanished children

(snipped)

Cindy and George Anthony were also at this morning's walk. The Anthony's daughter is currently in jail, accused of killing her daughter, and their granddaughter, Caylee Anthony.

George Anthony said he attended the event to show his support for other families who've lost loved ones.

"There's some individuals out there that they think,'this will never happen to me. I don't have to worry about it,'" Anthony said. "But when it does, we're going to be there to help them."

I think George and Spindy are more despicable every day that goes by.

I have nothing but compassion and feelings of love for the families of the missing. I cannot even begin to understand their pain. I am sure that none of them have profitted off the person missing from their life. All they want is their loved one back or found. I feel I must add, just my opinion, lest my viewpoint is attacked.   ::MonkeyAngel::

No attacks here, Fanny. ITA!

No attacks from me either, Fanny. ITA too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 06:37:06 PM
Nice shoes George!   ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

Sorry, I couldn't resist.  They don't look like they've been used much for looking for missing children.
 ::MonkeyDevil2::

They match Spindy's except her's have little cute baby blue stripes. UGH! How fashionable!  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 11, 2009, 06:38:34 PM
Roy Brown, left, whose daughter Amanda went missing on Sept. 11, 1998, talks with George Anthony, whose granddaughter Caylee was found dead last year, at the Forget Us Not Walk in honor of missing and murdered children.

Families of missing or murdered children, including Amanda Brown, Zachary Bernhardt, Caylee Anthony and Hayleigh Cummings, gather to honor their memory at the Forget Us Not Walk, Sept. 11, 2009.


Link to gallery:

http://www2.tbo.com/photoalbum/2009/sep/11/missing-children/5/

How...how...HOWWWWW can they dare show their faces at places like that and try to make themselves fit in?  ::MonkeyMad::

I'm going to go find that bottle of merlot I had the other day.

Amen to that!   ::MonkeyMad::

 ::MonkeyBath2:: ::MonkeyBath2:: ::MonkeyBath2::

Pass the wine please.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 06:40:41 PM
Roy Brown, left, whose daughter Amanda went missing on Sept. 11, 1998, talks with George Anthony, whose granddaughter Caylee was found dead last year, at the Forget Us Not Walk in honor of missing and murdered children.

Families of missing or murdered children, including Amanda Brown, Zachary Bernhardt, Caylee Anthony and Hayleigh Cummings, gather to honor their memory at the Forget Us Not Walk, Sept. 11, 2009.


Link to gallery:

http://www2.tbo.com/photoalbum/2009/sep/11/missing-children/5/

How...how...HOWWWWW can they dare show their faces at places like that and try to make themselves fit in?  ::MonkeyMad::

I'm going to go find that bottle of merlot I had the other day.

With ugly shoes, no less!  ::MonkeyDevil:: Yeah, they fit right in. I wonder how much they cost? Probably didn't get them at Target, or could be they did.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Brandi on September 11, 2009, 06:44:15 PM
Nice shoes George!   ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

Sorry, I couldn't resist.  They don't look like they've been used much for looking for missing children.
 ::MonkeyDevil2::

I noticed as well.

Amazing how one can afford new clothing/shoes when there is no one working in the household, huh? ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 06:47:52 PM
Nice shoes George!   ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

Sorry, I couldn't resist.  They don't look like they've been used much for looking for missing children.
 ::MonkeyDevil2::

I noticed as well.

Amazing how one can afford new clothing/shoes when there is no one working in the household, huh? ::MonkeyConfused::


They don't look like deck shoes either. I wonder what has happened to the Extreme Bass boat.  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Babybear on September 11, 2009, 06:48:04 PM
Nice shoes George!   ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

Sorry, I couldn't resist.  They don't look like they've been used much for looking for missing children.
 ::MonkeyDevil2::

Cindy sure looks sloppy.  I never realized before what poor posture she has.  Looks like a wilting mushroom.

I noticed as well.

Amazing how one can afford new clothing/shoes when there is no one working in the household, huh? ::MonkeyConfused::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Babybear on September 11, 2009, 06:49:25 PM
Nice shoes George!   ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

Sorry, I couldn't resist.  They don't look like they've been used much for looking for missing children.
 ::MonkeyDevil2::

Cindy sure looks sloppy.  I never realized before what poor posture she has.  Looks like a wilting mushroom.

I noticed as well.

Amazing how one can afford new clothing/shoes when there is no one working in the household, huh? ::MonkeyConfused::

Sorry I got in your box, Brandi.  I just didn't go down far enough I guess.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 11, 2009, 06:54:26 PM
Wesh video report:

http://www.wesh.com/video/20860700/index.html


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 11, 2009, 06:55:10 PM
Roy Brown, left, whose daughter Amanda went missing on Sept. 11, 1998, talks with George Anthony, whose granddaughter Caylee was found dead last year, at the Forget Us Not Walk in honor of missing and murdered children.

Families of missing or murdered children, including Amanda Brown, Zachary Bernhardt, Caylee Anthony and Hayleigh Cummings, gather to honor their memory at the Forget Us Not Walk, Sept. 11, 2009.


Link to gallery:

http://www2.tbo.com/photoalbum/2009/sep/11/missing-children/5/

How...how...HOWWWWW can they dare show their faces at places like that and try to make themselves fit in?  ::MonkeyMad::

I'm going to go find that bottle of merlot I had the other day.

With ugly shoes, no less!  ::MonkeyDevil:: Yeah, they fit right in. I wonder how much they cost? Probably didn't get them at Target, or could be they did.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

Speaking of Target...lol...do you suppose they ever go into one? If I lived there, I'd definitely frequent target...I love their stores anyway...but to spot an anthony in a target...now that would be some picture huh?

Sitting back in the merlot filled hot tub....breathe...sip....relax....breathe...sip....relax...bp got kinda high that time!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 06:57:02 PM
Nice shoes George!   ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

Sorry, I couldn't resist.  They don't look like they've been used much for looking for missing children.
 ::MonkeyDevil2::

Cindy sure looks sloppy.  I never realized before what poor posture she has.  Looks like a wilting mushroom.

I noticed as well.

Amazing how one can afford new clothing/shoes when there is no one working in the household, huh? ::MonkeyConfused::

Sorry I got in your box, Brandi.  I just didn't go down far enough I guess.

Spindy has packed on the pounds and looks downright healthy. I guess she and Skanky have been able to take a little nourishment in the past few months. Quite a rebound for Spindy from last November during her pitiful stage and Skanky not being to EAT A THING LAST SUMMER!  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BluesyGram on September 11, 2009, 06:59:38 PM
http://suncoastpinellas.tbo.com/content/2009/sep/11/111419/clearwater-boy-was-reported-missing-9-years-ago-to/


For 3 Florida families, 9/11 is a day to remember vanished children

(snipped)

Cindy and George Anthony were also at this morning's walk. The Anthony's daughter is currently in jail, accused of killing her daughter, and their granddaughter, Caylee Anthony.

George Anthony said he attended the event to show his support for other families who've lost loved ones.

"There's some individuals out there that they think,'this will never happen to me. I don't have to worry about it,'" Anthony said. "But when it does, we're going to be there to help them."

I think George and Spindy are more despicable every day that goes by.

I have nothing but compassion and feelings of love for the families of the missing. I cannot even begin to understand their pain. I am sure that none of them have profitted off the person missing from their life. All they want is their loved one back or found. I feel I must add, just my opinion, lest my viewpoint is attacked.   ::MonkeyAngel::


I so agree with you Fanny.  And everytime they show up to 'help' someone, it just makes my blood boil...as you know these self-absorbed idiots never gave a rat's behind nor one penny donation to any of these people nor causes.  And to top it off...they aren't there for anyone else but themselves now.

 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 07:01:47 PM
Roy Brown, left, whose daughter Amanda went missing on Sept. 11, 1998, talks with George Anthony, whose granddaughter Caylee was found dead last year, at the Forget Us Not Walk in honor of missing and murdered children.

Families of missing or murdered children, including Amanda Brown, Zachary Bernhardt, Caylee Anthony and Hayleigh Cummings, gather to honor their memory at the Forget Us Not Walk, Sept. 11, 2009.


Link to gallery:

http://www2.tbo.com/photoalbum/2009/sep/11/missing-children/5/

How...how...HOWWWWW can they dare show their faces at places like that and try to make themselves fit in?  ::MonkeyMad::

I'm going to go find that bottle of merlot I had the other day.

With ugly shoes, no less!  ::MonkeyDevil:: Yeah, they fit right in. I wonder how much they cost? Probably didn't get them at Target, or could be they did.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

Speaking of Target...lol...do you suppose they ever go into one? If I lived there, I'd definitely frequent target...I love their stores anyway...but to spot an anthony in a target...now that would be some picture huh?

Sitting back in the merlot filled hot tub....breathe...sip....relax....breathe...sip....relax...bp got kinda high that time!

The Anthonys probably no longer frequent the Taget establishment. Only Louie Viutton, and Gucci and such designers for them.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

"We're in the Money!" la la la.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 07:04:09 PM
http://suncoastpinellas.tbo.com/content/2009/sep/11/111419/clearwater-boy-was-reported-missing-9-years-ago-to/


For 3 Florida families, 9/11 is a day to remember vanished children

(snipped)

Cindy and George Anthony were also at this morning's walk. The Anthony's daughter is currently in jail, accused of killing her daughter, and their granddaughter, Caylee Anthony.

George Anthony said he attended the event to show his support for other families who've lost loved ones.

"There's some individuals out there that they think,'this will never happen to me. I don't have to worry about it,'" Anthony said. "But when it does, we're going to be there to help them."

I think George and Spindy are more despicable every day that goes by.

I have nothing but compassion and feelings of love for the families of the missing. I cannot even begin to understand their pain. I am sure that none of them have profitted off the person missing from their life. All they want is their loved one back or found. I feel I must add, just my opinion, lest my viewpoint is attacked.   ::MonkeyAngel::


I so agree with you Fanny.  And everytime they show up to 'help' someone, it just makes my blood boil...as you know these self-absorbed idiots never gave a rat's behind nor one penny donation to any of these people nor causes.  And to top it off...they aren't there for anyone else but themselves now.

 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

CAYLEE was never missing! But at last she was found, thank God!  ::MonkeyAngel::

And not by anything the Anthonys EVER did!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 11, 2009, 07:05:29 PM
Does anyone follow the Orlando Sentinel comments page? Cindy (posting as Orlando East) said that "the only water back in the search area was from Tim Miller's spilt vodka and urine".
I was glad to see that someone shot back at her- You should be careful of the laws of libel in Florida- and as far as I am aware there are no photos of Tim wasted, urinating in public, unlike Casey..
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Anthonys........ ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 07:06:34 PM


The Anthonys probably no longer frequent the Taget TARGETestablishment. Only Louie Viutton, and Gucci and such designers for them.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

"We're in the Money!" la la la.  ::MonkeyMad::

SELF EDIT


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 07:08:32 PM
Does anyone follow the Orlando Sentinel comments page? Cindy (posting as Orlando East) said that "the only water back in the search area was from Tim Miller's spilt vodka and urine".
I was glad to see that someone shot back at her- You should be careful of the laws of libel in Florida- and as far as I am aware there are no photos of Tim wasted, urinating in public, unlike Casey..
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Anthonys........ ::MonkeyNoNo::
::MonkeyDevil::

She's finally brave and bold enough to post in her own name! See what winning in court will do for you. Check that out, Judge Rodriguez!  ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 11, 2009, 07:15:59 PM
Does anyone follow the Orlando Sentinel comments page? Cindy (posting as Orlando East) said that "the only water back in the search area was from Tim Miller's spilt vodka and urine".
I was glad to see that someone shot back at her- You should be careful of the laws of libel in Florida- and as far as I am aware there are no photos of Tim wasted, urinating in public, unlike Casey..
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Anthonys........ ::MonkeyNoNo::
::MonkeyDevil::

She's finally brave and bold enough to post in her own name! See what winning in court will do for you. Check that out, Judge Rodriguez!  ::MonkeyDevil2::

Today when I was making my list of things to be thankful for, the fact that Judge Rodriguez is not the Judge in the criminal trial was way up near the top!
 ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: NickandNora on September 11, 2009, 07:17:39 PM
Does anyone follow the Orlando Sentinel comments page? Cindy (posting as Orlando East) said that "the only water back in the search area was from Tim Miller's spilt vodka and urine".
I was glad to see that someone shot back at her- You should be careful of the laws of libel in Florida- and as far as I am aware there are no photos of Tim wasted, urinating in public, unlike Casey..
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Anthonys........ ::MonkeyNoNo::

Vile, vile woman! ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 07:18:27 PM
Does anyone follow the Orlando Sentinel comments page? Cindy (posting as Orlando East) said that "the only water back in the search area was from Tim Miller's spilt vodka and urine".
I was glad to see that someone shot back at her- You should be careful of the laws of libel in Florida- and as far as I am aware there are no photos of Tim wasted, urinating in public, unlike Casey..
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Anthonys........ ::MonkeyNoNo::
::MonkeyDevil::

She's finally brave and bold enough to post in her own name! See what winning in court will do for you. Check that out, Judge Rodriguez!  ::MonkeyDevil2::

Today when I was making my list of things to be thankful for, the fact that Judge Rodriguez is not the Judge in the criminal trial was way up near the top!
 ::MonkeyDevil2::

I know. But the longer they keep postponing the trial, the more likely it won't be Strickland, and may be someone worse than Rodriguez. JMO  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 11, 2009, 07:18:32 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-what-is-defenses-proof-someone-else-dumped-caylee.html

Casey Anthony: What is defense's proof someone else dumped Caylee?
posted by halboedeker on Sep 11, 2009 6:42:46 PM


What evidence do Casey Anthony's defense attorneys have that someone other than their client dumped Caylee's remains in woods near the Anthony home?

WESH-Channel 2's Bob Kealing explored that issue tonight after the state filed a motion yesterday to see that information and learn what witnesses will support it. Casey Anthony is charged with the first-degree murder of her daughter, 2-year-old Caylee.

Volunteer searchers might be the focus. If the defense team has "a mystery Texas EquuSearch witness or witnesses," the attorneys "must bring them out of the shadows and reveal their information to prosecutors" under the state's rules of discovery, Kealing explained.

Orlando defense attorney Mark NeJame praised the state's motion in the WESH report. "I think this motion is very well taken," NeJame said. "If, in fact, they've got somebody who says different than all the others I'm aware of shows, put up or shut up."

Defense attorney Jose Baez has not indicated what evidence he will produce in response to the state's motion, yet Kealing speculated that "undoubtedly" the defense will use videotape of the Anthonys' private eye searching the woods in November. A month later, Caylee's body was found in those woods.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 11, 2009, 07:20:14 PM
Does anyone follow the Orlando Sentinel comments page? Cindy (posting as Orlando East) said that "the only water back in the search area was from Tim Miller's spilt vodka and urine".
I was glad to see that someone shot back at her- You should be careful of the laws of libel in Florida- and as far as I am aware there are no photos of Tim wasted, urinating in public, unlike Casey..
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Anthonys........ ::MonkeyNoNo::
::MonkeyDevil::

She's finally brave and bold enough to post in her own name! See what winning in court will do for you. Check that out, Judge Rodriguez!  ::MonkeyDevil2::

Today when I was making my list of things to be thankful for, the fact that Judge Rodriguez is not the Judge in the criminal trial was way up near the top!
 ::MonkeyDevil2::

I know. But the longer they keep postponing the trial, the more likely it won't be Strickland, and may be someone worse than Rodriguez. JMO  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Tell me it can't be!  Worse than Rodriguez?   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 07:24:10 PM
Does anyone follow the Orlando Sentinel comments page? Cindy (posting as Orlando East) said that "the only water back in the search area was from Tim Miller's spilt vodka and urine".
I was glad to see that someone shot back at her- You should be careful of the laws of libel in Florida- and as far as I am aware there are no photos of Tim wasted, urinating in public, unlike Casey..
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Anthonys........ ::MonkeyNoNo::
::MonkeyDevil::

She's finally brave and bold enough to post in her own name! See what winning in court will do for you. Check that out, Judge Rodriguez!  ::MonkeyDevil2::

Today when I was making my list of things to be thankful for, the fact that Judge Rodriguez is not the Judge in the criminal trial was way up near the top!
 ::MonkeyDevil2::

I know. But the longer they keep postponing the trial, the more likely it won't be Strickland, and may be someone worse than Rodriguez. JMO  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Tell me it can't be!  Worse than Rodriguez?   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Unfortunately, It might be worse. There are a lot of judges or potential judges that are as bad or worse than him. At least Rodriguez hasn't fallen asleep or cried yet.    ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Western Observr on September 11, 2009, 07:27:40 PM
Does anyone follow the Orlando Sentinel comments page? Cindy (posting as Orlando East) said that "the only water back in the search area was from Tim Miller's spilt vodka and urine".
I was glad to see that someone shot back at her- You should be careful of the laws of libel in Florida- and as far as I am aware there are no photos of Tim wasted, urinating in public, unlike Casey..
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Anthonys........ ::MonkeyNoNo::
::MonkeyDevil::

She's finally brave and bold enough to post in her own name! See what winning in court will do for you. Check that out, Judge Rodriguez!  ::MonkeyDevil2::

Today when I was making my list of things to be thankful for, the fact that Judge Rodriguez is not the Judge in the criminal trial was way up near the top!
 ::MonkeyDevil2::

I know. But the longer they keep postponing the trial, the more likely it won't be Strickland, and may be someone worse than Rodriguez. JMO  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Tell me it can't be!  Worse than Rodriguez?   ::MonkeyNoNo::

What about the Anna Nicole Smith Judge?    I have to admit I felt a little soft spot for him, but he was embarrassing .....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Brandi on September 11, 2009, 07:33:37 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-what-is-defenses-proof-someone-else-dumped-caylee.html

Casey Anthony: What is defense's proof someone else dumped Caylee?
posted by halboedeker on Sep 11, 2009 6:42:46 PM


What evidence do Casey Anthony's defense attorneys have that someone other than their client dumped Caylee's remains in woods near the Anthony home?

WESH-Channel 2's Bob Kealing explored that issue tonight after the state filed a motion yesterday to see that information and learn what witnesses will support it. Casey Anthony is charged with the first-degree murder of her daughter, 2-year-old Caylee.

Volunteer searchers might be the focus. If the defense team has "a mystery Texas EquuSearch witness or witnesses," the attorneys "must bring them out of the shadows and reveal their information to prosecutors" under the state's rules of discovery, Kealing explained.

Orlando defense attorney Mark NeJame praised the state's motion in the WESH report. "I think this motion is very well taken," NeJame said. "If, in fact, they've got somebody who says different than all the others I'm aware of shows, put up or shut up."

Defense attorney Jose Baez has not indicated what evidence he will produce in response to the state's motion, yet Kealing speculated that "undoubtedly" the defense will use videotape of the Anthonys' private eye searching the woods in November. A month later, Caylee's body was found in those woods.


BBM. Gotta love that Mark NeJame!

As IF (!) Not finding something at some point means it is not there?!? GMAB.

Sure sounds like the defense is scraping the bottom of the barrel to me.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 11, 2009, 07:43:43 PM
http://suncoastpinellas.tbo.com/content/2009/sep/11/111419/clearwater-boy-was-reported-missing-9-years-ago-to/


For 3 Florida families, 9/11 is a day to remember vanished children

(snipped)

Cindy and George Anthony were also at this morning's walk. The Anthony's daughter is currently in jail, accused of killing her daughter, and their granddaughter, Caylee Anthony.

George Anthony said he attended the event to show his support for other families who've lost loved ones.

"There's some individuals out there that they think,'this will never happen to me. I don't have to worry about it,'" Anthony said. "But when it does, we're going to be there to help them."

georgie....Caylee did not vanish...Caylee was MURDERED!!! IMO BY HER OWN MOTHER AND YOU KNOW IT!!~!! Stop trying to align yourself with grieving families. ::MonkeyMad::
OH SUNNY - don't you know it makes georgie so blue to see it stated this way.............  REMAINS GEORGIE- REMAINS  But, georgie is special - he can break all the rules.  His ego even matches his need for attention.  Notice how when the spotlight is not on him, he goes bold and does something to draw the attention off the issue ...maybe him and cindy told joy to post that yesterday as biasbutt got a copy before the media and they need the attention on them, despite how it makes others feel.  Poor baby Caylee.  Trust me angel, it is ABOUT YOU - Caylee.   ::MonkeyAngel::   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 11, 2009, 07:44:31 PM
Does anyone follow the Orlando Sentinel comments page? Cindy (posting as Orlando East) said that "the only water back in the search area was from Tim Miller's spilt vodka and urine".
I was glad to see that someone shot back at her- You should be careful of the laws of libel in Florida- and as far as I am aware there are no photos of Tim wasted, urinating in public, unlike Casey..
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Anthonys........ ::MonkeyNoNo::
  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 07:49:55 PM
Does anyone follow the Orlando Sentinel comments page? Cindy (posting as Orlando East) said that "the only water back in the search area was from Tim Miller's spilt vodka and urine".
I was glad to see that someone shot back at her- You should be careful of the laws of libel in Florida- and as far as I am aware there are no photos of Tim wasted, urinating in public, unlike Casey..
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Anthonys........ ::MonkeyNoNo::
  ::MonkeyEek::  ::MonkeyEek::

I would really like to see Spindy dunked in spilt vodka and urine no matter who's it was. I would pay for that! Now that's funny, I don't care who you are.  ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 07:53:15 PM
http://suncoastpinellas.tbo.com/content/2009/sep/11/111419/clearwater-boy-was-reported-missing-9-years-ago-to/


For 3 Florida families, 9/11 is a day to remember vanished children

(snipped)

Cindy and George Anthony were also at this morning's walk. The Anthony's daughter is currently in jail, accused of killing her daughter, and their granddaughter, Caylee Anthony.

George Anthony said he attended the event to show his support for other families who've lost loved ones.

"There's some individuals out there that they think,'this will never happen to me. I don't have to worry about it,'" Anthony said. "But when it does, we're going to be there to help them."

georgie....Caylee did not vanish...Caylee was MURDERED!!! IMO BY HER OWN MOTHER AND YOU KNOW IT!!~!! Stop trying to align yourself with grieving families. ::MonkeyMad::
OH SUNNY - don't you know it makes georgie so blue to see it stated this way.............  REMAINS GEORGIE- REMAINS  But, georgie is special - he can break all the rules.  His ego even matches his need for attention.  Notice how when the spotlight is not on him, he goes bold and does something to draw the attention off the issue ...maybe him and cindy told joy to post that yesterday as biasbutt got a copy before the media and they need the attention on them, despite how it makes others feel.  Poor baby Caylee.  Trust me angel, it is ABOUT YOU - Caylee.   ::MonkeyAngel::   

O/T I thought you asked CAPP one time not to type in BLUE because you couldn't read it. What's the deal??


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 11, 2009, 07:59:56 PM
Does anyone follow the Orlando Sentinel comments page? Cindy (posting as Orlando East) said that "the only water back in the search area was from Tim Miller's spilt vodka and urine".
I was glad to see that someone shot back at her- You should be careful of the laws of libel in Florida- and as far as I am aware there are no photos of Tim wasted, urinating in public, unlike Casey..
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Anthonys........ ::MonkeyNoNo::
::MonkeyDevil::

She's finally brave and bold enough to post in her own name! See what winning in court will do for you. Check that out, Judge Rodriguez!  ::MonkeyDevil2::

  Wait - she is using her name or using the name Orlando East????I took it from West Ob.server's post that Orlando East was her name there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 08:06:20 PM
Does anyone follow the Orlando Sentinel comments page? Cindy (posting as Orlando East) said that "the only water back in the search area was from Tim Miller's spilt vodka and urine".
I was glad to see that someone shot back at her- You should be careful of the laws of libel in Florida- and as far as I am aware there are no photos of Tim wasted, urinating in public, unlike Casey..
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Anthonys........ ::MonkeyNoNo::
::MonkeyDevil::

She's finally brave and bold enough to post in her own name! See what winning in court will do for you. Check that out, Judge Rodriguez!  ::MonkeyDevil2::

  Wait - she is using her name or using the name Orlando East????I took it from West Ob.server's post that Orlando East was her name there.

INCOMING!!!  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 11, 2009, 08:09:00 PM
http://suncoastpinellas.tbo.com/content/2009/sep/11/111419/clearwater-boy-was-reported-missing-9-years-ago-to/


For 3 Florida families, 9/11 is a day to remember vanished children

(snipped)

Cindy and George Anthony were also at this morning's walk. The Anthony's daughter is currently in jail, accused of killing her daughter, and their granddaughter, Caylee Anthony.

George Anthony said he attended the event to show his support for other families who've lost loved ones.

"There's some individuals out there that they think,'this will never happen to me. I don't have to worry about it,'" Anthony said. "But when it does, we're going to be there to help them."

Wow, while it is absolutely uncanny & very eerry that three missing children cases occurred on Sept 11th in different years & I have full empathy for those families, it is highly offensive that the Anthonys continue to use anything and anyone to advance their BS - damn them for tarnishing this day as if it isnt painful enough.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 11, 2009, 08:14:29 PM
  FANNY SAID:  O/T I thought you asked CAPP one time not to type in BLUE because you couldn't read it. What's the deal?? 
Well, Fanny - first, nice to see you communicating and responding to my posts again!  But, this is OT - so I will briefly answer you once, but if you wish more of an answer, my email is in my profile and I usually check musings a few times a day.  That said, yes, I did express how difficult it is to read the blue, and others have to.  But, those concerns are not respected and so it goes. BTW -  The purple is hard on my eyes too.   But, here where I am typing it is black, so I can see it just fine.  Thank you for asking, but I don't need to read me, I know what I said! LOL 
Now, is cindy  Incoming??  I am lost - what is her name there, I want to go peek for her posts. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: klaasend on September 11, 2009, 08:23:37 PM
ATTENTION:  AS OF RIGHT NOW, we are going to go back to the old 2005 rule that only ADMIN or MODS can use BOLDED COLOR for their posts. 

It is very distracting to see the bolded blue all the time.  CAPP and ANJ please discontinue the bolded color right now.  Earlier today I sent Capp and KarmaRoundup emails kindly requesting they stop using bolded color for their posts.  I am assuming Capp has not checked her email.
 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 11, 2009, 08:27:09 PM
http://suncoastpinellas.tbo.com/content/2009/sep/11/111419/clearwater-boy-was-reported-missing-9-years-ago-to/


For 3 Florida families, 9/11 is a day to remember vanished children

(snipped)

Cindy and George Anthony were also at this morning's walk. The Anthony's daughter is currently in jail, accused of killing her daughter, and their granddaughter, Caylee Anthony.

George Anthony said he attended the event to show his support for other families who've lost loved ones.

"There's some individuals out there that they think,'this will never happen to me. I don't have to worry about it,'" Anthony said. "But when it does, we're going to be there to help them."

I guess the Anthony's have learned to not put out special events on their site. Had I known about this event today, as this is in my neck of the woods, I would have gone just to see if the Ants were asking for donations or not and maybe to even give them a little piece of my mind. Now Monday they will be in Tallahassee for the Florida Missing Children's Day.


I guess they pay no attention or give any regard to how many missing children organizations/families have turned them away or told them they did not want their assistance or faux concern while they also choose to ignore the overall utter contempt millions have for them as individuals & what they have done - IMHO disregarding Caylee to this day.  If they were standing up for Caylee being a victim then they shouldn't have become conspirators in attempting to get their murdering slore acquitted of felony murder of an innocent, precious babygirl, their granddaughter for the love of God!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: klaasend on September 11, 2009, 08:28:32 PM
ATTENTION:  AS OF RIGHT NOW, we are going to go back to the old 2005 rule that only ADMIN or MODS can use BOLDED COLOR for their posts. 

It is very distracting to see the bolded blue all the time.  CAPP and ANJ please discontinue the bolded color right now.  Earlier today I sent Capp and KarmaRoundup emails kindly requesting they stop using bolded color for their posts.  I am assuming Capp has not checked her email.
 



I will lock this thread for a minute to make sure people read my post


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: numbersgirl on September 11, 2009, 08:28:54 PM
Does anyone follow the Orlando Sentinel comments page? Cindy (posting as Orlando East) said that "the only water back in the search area was from Tim Miller's spilt vodka and urine".
I was glad to see that someone shot back at her- You should be careful of the laws of libel in Florida- and as far as I am aware there are no photos of Tim wasted, urinating in public, unlike Casey..
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Anthonys........ ::MonkeyNoNo::

How despicable!  My heart breaks for Tim Miller.  I just don't know how he does it.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 08:41:37 PM
Does anyone follow the Orlando Sentinel comments page? Cindy (posting as Orlando East) said that "the only water back in the search area was from Tim Miller's spilt vodka and urine".
I was glad to see that someone shot back at her- You should be careful of the laws of libel in Florida- and as far as I am aware there are no photos of Tim wasted, urinating in public, unlike Casey..
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Anthonys........ ::MonkeyNoNo::

How despicable!  My heart breaks for Tim Miller.  I just don't know how he does it.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I wonder myself sometimes. I know he has a heart of gold and a big pain in his heart. I wouldn't blame him if he eased his pain sometimes. According to the documents we have seen, Spindy eases her pain too with RX's. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 11, 2009, 08:42:18 PM
Does anyone follow the Orlando Sentinel comments page? Cindy (posting as Orlando East) said that "the only water back in the search area was from Tim Miller's spilt vodka and urine".
I was glad to see that someone shot back at her- You should be careful of the laws of libel in Florida- and as far as I am aware there are no photos of Tim wasted, urinating in public, unlike Casey..
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Anthonys........ ::MonkeyNoNo::

WO, I have read there from time to time and I do believe this Orlando East is indeed sin-sin......and she posts some very nasty posts...but this my be a new low for her!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BluesyGram on September 11, 2009, 08:46:00 PM
Does anyone follow the Orlando Sentinel comments page? Cindy (posting as Orlando East) said that "the only water back in the search area was from Tim Miller's spilt vodka and urine".
I was glad to see that someone shot back at her- You should be careful of the laws of libel in Florida- and as far as I am aware there are no photos of Tim wasted, urinating in public, unlike Casey..
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Anthonys........ ::MonkeyNoNo::

How despicable!  My heart breaks for Tim Miller.  I just don't know how he does it.  ::MonkeyNoNo::



What do they think they are accomplishing by trashing someone like Tim?  Is it to make themselves MORE  despicable?  OK,  Mission accomplished...although I didn't think they could possibly do that.  

PS...I went to that site and I think they deleted all of 'OrlandoEast's' posts...but not the responses to them from other posters.  LOL.

 ::MonkeyBike:: ::MonkeyBike::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 08:53:07 PM
Does anyone follow the Orlando Sentinel comments page? Cindy (posting as Orlando East) said that "the only water back in the search area was from Tim Miller's spilt vodka and urine".
I was glad to see that someone shot back at her- You should be careful of the laws of libel in Florida- and as far as I am aware there are no photos of Tim wasted, urinating in public, unlike Casey..
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Anthonys........ ::MonkeyNoNo::

WO, I have read there from time to time and I do believe this Orlando East is indeed sin-sin......and she posts some very nasty posts...but this my be a new low for her!!

Spindy has been using that alias for a long time, but I haven't seen it for a while. She was a regular on the Fox Blog for the longest while I was reading. Everyone had her number and knew it was her. Sometimes she would even repeat her statements on her "little cameo's" on the media. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 08:55:56 PM
Does anyone follow the Orlando Sentinel comments page? Cindy (posting as Orlando East) said that "the only water back in the search area was from Tim Miller's spilt vodka and urine".
I was glad to see that someone shot back at her- You should be careful of the laws of libel in Florida- and as far as I am aware there are no photos of Tim wasted, urinating in public, unlike Casey..
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Anthonys........ ::MonkeyNoNo::

How despicable!  My heart breaks for Tim Miller.  I just don't know how he does it.  ::MonkeyNoNo::



What do they think they are accomplishing by trashing someone like Tim?  Is it to make themselves MORE  despicable?  OK,  Mission accomplished...although I didn't think they could possibly do that.  

PS...I went to that site and I think they deleted all of 'OrlandoEast's' posts...but not the responses to them from other posters.  LOL.

 ::MonkeyBike:: ::MonkeyBike::

Spindy isn't good enough to lick Tim's muddy boots. JMO I have much respect for Tim Miller, no matter what the likes of Spindy says.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 11, 2009, 08:56:24 PM
Does anyone follow the Orlando Sentinel comments page? Cindy (posting as Orlando East) said that "the only water back in the search area was from Tim Miller's spilt vodka and urine".
I was glad to see that someone shot back at her- You should be careful of the laws of libel in Florida- and as far as I am aware there are no photos of Tim wasted, urinating in public, unlike Casey..
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Anthonys........ ::MonkeyNoNo::

How despicable!  My heart breaks for Tim Miller.  I just don't know how he does it.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Me either,Numbers.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 11, 2009, 09:01:52 PM
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-what-is-defenses-proof-someone-else-dumped-caylee.html

Casey Anthony: What is defense's proof someone else dumped Caylee?
posted by halboedeker on Sep 11, 2009 6:42:46 PM


What evidence do Casey Anthony's defense attorneys have that someone other than their client dumped Caylee's remains in woods near the Anthony home?

WESH-Channel 2's Bob Kealing explored that issue tonight after the state filed a motion yesterday to see that information and learn what witnesses will support it. Casey Anthony is charged with the first-degree murder of her daughter, 2-year-old Caylee.

Volunteer searchers might be the focus. If the defense team has "a mystery Texas EquuSearch witness or witnesses," the attorneys "must bring them out of the shadows and reveal their information to prosecutors" under the state's rules of discovery, Kealing explained.

Orlando defense attorney Mark NeJame praised the state's motion in the WESH report. "I think this motion is very well taken," NeJame said. "If, in fact, they've got somebody who says different than all the others I'm aware of shows, put up or shut up."

Defense attorney Jose Baez has not indicated what evidence he will produce in response to the state's motion, yet Kealing speculated that "undoubtedly" the defense will use videotape of the Anthonys' private eye searching the woods in November. A month later, Caylee's body was found in those woods.


It needs to be added here that "Joyless Wonder" was never a team leader for TES, her friend "Cowboy" Dennis was (horse dude) & word at the command center was that his team left him because they couldnt stand him or how he was running the search.    At the command center Jim Hoover also showed up to state that someone saw a white car on Suburban in June but begged not to mention he was there because he worked for the Anthonys and they would be fuming (oppsie, too late they found out now)....I do not know if anything came of that sighting in the way of evidence.  She claims that her & her husband went out on a boat searching in August but if they were anywheres within feet of where Caylee was found keep in mind they were in a boat... :smt115    PS too little too late Mark Nejame & Tim Miller in their press conference showed the area in August taken by sheriff's dept helicopter & date & timestamped - the brush was extremely thick & there was indeed water.   It may very well have something to do with her & her crew because of what she did in Dec at the recovery crime scene with pictures she showed detectives trying to claim that the area was dry in August & Tim Miller was lying that there was water there (Phil Keaton caught her on video live as it happened & in another broadcast even mentioned that she was stalking the scene every day so there is footage of this), as I mentioned earlier today.

If the defense uses videotape of Dom in the Suburban woods, they will have to explain why a PI is digging around with a probe & shovel feverishly, possibly contaminating a crime scene & tampering with evidence to say the least a month in advance of the body being found, who told him to go there specifically & no you dont need a probe to "check out a teen hang out" (Dom's first excuse based on Kio's statement well after the fact that they realized Hoover spilled!) -- a jury will never believe their cockamamie story & it will lead right back to where it belongs Casey Anthony.


Per my request - please stop using bolded color for your text, and please check your email.  TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Hiding Monkey on September 11, 2009, 09:05:36 PM
ATTENTION:  AS OF RIGHT NOW, we are going to go back to the old 2005 rule that only ADMIN or MODS can use BOLDED COLOR for their posts. 

It is very distracting to see the bolded blue all the time.  CAPP and ANJ please discontinue the bolded color right now.  Earlier today I sent Capp and KarmaRoundup emails kindly requesting they stop using bolded color for their posts.  I am assuming Capp has not checked her email.
 


  Capp-didn't know if you saw this as I noticed you just wrote again in blue..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 11, 2009, 09:09:25 PM
ATTENTION:  AS OF RIGHT NOW, we are going to go back to the old 2005 rule that only ADMIN or MODS can use BOLDED COLOR for their posts. 

It is very distracting to see the bolded blue all the time.  CAPP and ANJ please discontinue the bolded color right now.  Earlier today I sent Capp and KarmaRoundup emails kindly requesting they stop using bolded color for their posts.  I am assuming Capp has not checked her email.
 





I will lock this thread for a minute to make sure people read my post

Klass, I did not see your posts or read my email as I was in respiratory therapy & went shopping returning about an hour ago.  I will write you back because we need to talk.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 11, 2009, 09:10:16 PM
Does anyone follow the Orlando Sentinel comments page? Cindy (posting as Orlando East) said that "the only water back in the search area was from Tim Miller's spilt vodka and urine".
I was glad to see that someone shot back at her- You should be careful of the laws of libel in Florida- and as far as I am aware there are no photos of Tim wasted, urinating in public, unlike Casey..
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Anthonys........ ::MonkeyNoNo::

How despicable!  My heart breaks for Tim Miller.  I just don't know how he does it.  ::MonkeyNoNo::



What do they think they are accomplishing by trashing someone like Tim?  Is it to make themselves MORE  despicable?  OK,  Mission accomplished...although I didn't think they could possibly do that.  

PS...I went to that site and I think they deleted all of 'OrlandoEast's' posts...but not the responses to them from other posters.  LOL.

 ::MonkeyBike:: ::MonkeyBike::

Bluesy, the last part of your post makes me feel like  ::MonkeyDance::

Like you, every time I think they can not slip further into a slime pit...they do!   ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 11, 2009, 09:11:29 PM
Does anyone follow the Orlando Sentinel comments page? Cindy (posting as Orlando East) said that "the only water back in the search area was from Tim Miller's spilt vodka and urine".
I was glad to see that someone shot back at her- You should be careful of the laws of libel in Florida- and as far as I am aware there are no photos of Tim wasted, urinating in public, unlike Casey..
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Anthonys........ ::MonkeyNoNo::

WO, I have read there from time to time and I do believe this Orlando East is indeed sin-sin......and she posts some very nasty posts...but this my be a new low for her!!

Spindy has been using that alias for a long time, but I haven't seen it for a while. She was a regular on the Fox Blog for the longest while I was reading. Everyone had her number and knew it was her. Sometimes she would even repeat her statements on her "little cameo's" on the media. JMO

thanks for the info. I never read at the Fox blogs....hell I have hard enough time keeping up here!! ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 11, 2009, 09:14:01 PM
Does anyone follow the Orlando Sentinel comments page? Cindy (posting as Orlando East) said that "the only water back in the search area was from Tim Miller's spilt vodka and urine".
I was glad to see that someone shot back at her- You should be careful of the laws of libel in Florida- and as far as I am aware there are no photos of Tim wasted, urinating in public, unlike Casey..
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Anthonys........ ::MonkeyNoNo::

How despicable!  My heart breaks for Tim Miller.  I just don't know how he does it.  ::MonkeyNoNo::



What do they think they are accomplishing by trashing someone like Tim?  Is it to make themselves MORE  despicable?  OK,  Mission accomplished...although I didn't think they could possibly do that.  

PS...I went to that site and I think they deleted all of 'OrlandoEast's' posts...but not the responses to them from other posters.  LOL.

 ::MonkeyBike:: ::MonkeyBike::

Spindy isn't good enough to lick Tim's muddy boots. JMO I have much respect for Tim Miller, no matter what the likes of Spindy says.

Tim is a one in a million and he is human...he made lots of mistakes, manned up to them and then set about turning his life around and fulfilling a promise he made to Laura and to himself.  I wish there were more Tim Millers in this world~


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 11, 2009, 09:14:55 PM
Does anyone follow the Orlando Sentinel comments page? Cindy (posting as Orlando East) said that "the only water back in the search area was from Tim Miller's spilt vodka and urine".
I was glad to see that someone shot back at her- You should be careful of the laws of libel in Florida- and as far as I am aware there are no photos of Tim wasted, urinating in public, unlike Casey..
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Anthonys........ ::MonkeyNoNo::

WO, I have read there from time to time and I do believe this Orlando East is indeed sin-sin......and she posts some very nasty posts...but this my be a new low for her!!

Spindy has been using that alias for a long time, but I haven't seen it for a while. She was a regular on the Fox Blog for the longest while I was reading. Everyone had her number and knew it was her. Sometimes she would even repeat her statements on her "little cameo's" on the media. JMO

thanks for the info. I never read at the Fox blogs....hell I have hard enough time keeping up here!! ::MonkeyTongue::

Thanks Sunny,I feel better.    ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: klaasend on September 11, 2009, 09:18:10 PM
I'm sure you guys already posted this, but just in case:

http://www.wesh.com/news/20850570/detail.html

Dr. G Reflects On Caylee Autopsy
Garavaglia Talks About Opening Of New Medical Examiner's Office

POSTED: 8:14 am EDT September 11, 2009
UPDATED: 8:30 am EDT September 11, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The medical examiner who performed an autopsy on Caylee Anthony talked about it for the first time on Thursday.

Dr. Jan Garavaglia, who is also known as Dr. G, has remained quiet about the case since she confirmed the remains were those of Caylee in December.
(snipped)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 11, 2009, 09:20:18 PM
Does anyone follow the Orlando Sentinel comments page? Cindy (posting as Orlando East) said that "the only water back in the search area was from Tim Miller's spilt vodka and urine".
I was glad to see that someone shot back at her- You should be careful of the laws of libel in Florida- and as far as I am aware there are no photos of Tim wasted, urinating in public, unlike Casey..
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Anthonys........ ::MonkeyNoNo::

WO, I have read there from time to time and I do believe this Orlando East is indeed sin-sin......and she posts some very nasty posts...but this my be a new low for her!!

Spindy has been using that alias for a long time, but I haven't seen it for a while. She was a regular on the Fox Blog for the longest while I was reading. Everyone had her number and knew it was her. Sometimes she would even repeat her statements on her "little cameo's" on the media. JMO

thanks for the info. I never read at the Fox blogs....hell I have hard enough time keeping up here!! ::MonkeyTongue::

Thanks Sunny,I feel better.    ::MonkeyHaHa::

LOL....Don't know what I did...but if it made you feel better...it had to be a good thing!!!!   You make me feel better every morning with youe Good Morning posts....eeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I an NOT a morning person even though I get up early!!

I hope the a's never have another good morning for as long as they live.  ::MonkeyMad::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 11, 2009, 09:22:47 PM
I'm sure you guys already posted this, but just in case:

http://www.wesh.com/news/20850570/detail.html

Dr. G Reflects On Caylee Autopsy
Garavaglia Talks About Opening Of New Medical Examiner's Office

POSTED: 8:14 am EDT September 11, 2009
UPDATED: 8:30 am EDT September 11, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The medical examiner who performed an autopsy on Caylee Anthony talked about it for the first time on Thursday.

Dr. Jan Garavaglia, who is also known as Dr. G, has remained quiet about the case since she confirmed the remains were those of Caylee in December.
(snipped)

thanks Klaas ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 11, 2009, 09:24:53 PM
Sunny,I'm with you about the Anthonys.   ::MonkeyDevil2::
They should be ashamed of themselves.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 11, 2009, 09:30:34 PM
Is there anyone here who can screen capture the second photo of Caylee in this slide show for me please. Is that a big black eye I'm seeing?  TYIA!
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/20727408/detail.html



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 09:33:00 PM
Does anyone follow the Orlando Sentinel comments page? Cindy (posting as Orlando East) said that "the only water back in the search area was from Tim Miller's spilt vodka and urine".
I was glad to see that someone shot back at her- You should be careful of the laws of libel in Florida- and as far as I am aware there are no photos of Tim wasted, urinating in public, unlike Casey..
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Anthonys........ ::MonkeyNoNo::

WO, I have read there from time to time and I do believe this Orlando East is indeed sin-sin......and she posts some very nasty posts...but this my be a new low for her!!

Spindy has been using that alias for a long time, but I haven't seen it for a while. She was a regular on the Fox Blog for the longest while I was reading. Everyone had her number and knew it was her. Sometimes she would even repeat her statements on her "little cameo's" on the media. JMO

thanks for the info. I never read at the Fox blogs....hell I have hard enough time keeping up here!! ::MonkeyTongue::

I use to read a lot of blog sites before I got up the nerve to post myself. That is how I know.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: klaasend on September 11, 2009, 09:34:23 PM
Is there anyone here who can screen capture the second photo of Caylee in this slide show for me please. Is that a big black eye I'm seeing?  TYIA!
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/20727408/detail.html



Sure looks like a black eye to me.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/CayleeEye.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Brandi on September 11, 2009, 09:34:25 PM
I'm sure you guys already posted this, but just in case:

http://www.wesh.com/news/20850570/detail.html

Dr. G Reflects On Caylee Autopsy
Garavaglia Talks About Opening Of New Medical Examiner's Office

POSTED: 8:14 am EDT September 11, 2009
UPDATED: 8:30 am EDT September 11, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The medical examiner who performed an autopsy on Caylee Anthony talked about it for the first time on Thursday.

Dr. Jan Garavaglia, who is also known as Dr. G, has remained quiet about the case since she confirmed the remains were those of Caylee in December.
(snipped)

Thanks, Klaas.

Dr. G is so cool. I really respect her.

(Have never seen her TV show though.)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 09:35:17 PM
Is there anyone here who can screen capture the second photo of Caylee in this slide show for me please. Is that a big black eye I'm seeing?  TYIA!
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/20727408/detail.html




That was one of photos that disturbed me when they came out.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 11, 2009, 09:36:14 PM
Sunny,I'm with you about the Anthonys.   ::MonkeyDevil2::
They should be ashamed of themselves.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

They should be....but anyone who would live off the blood of their murdered grandchild knows no shame....they are lower than the serpent that crawls on it's belly......my Granny always told me  the devil was depicted as the serpent because there is nothing lower that crawls the earth.  However, my Granny has never heard of or seen the A's.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 09:36:29 PM
I'm sure you guys already posted this, but just in case:

http://www.wesh.com/news/20850570/detail.html

Dr. G Reflects On Caylee Autopsy
Garavaglia Talks About Opening Of New Medical Examiner's Office

POSTED: 8:14 am EDT September 11, 2009
UPDATED: 8:30 am EDT September 11, 2009

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The medical examiner who performed an autopsy on Caylee Anthony talked about it for the first time on Thursday.

Dr. Jan Garavaglia, who is also known as Dr. G, has remained quiet about the case since she confirmed the remains were those of Caylee in December.
(snipped)

Thanks, Klaas.

Dr. G is so cool. I really respect her.

(Have never seen her TV show though.)
It comes on DISCOVERYHEALTH on Monday night if you get that channel on your cable server.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Brandi on September 11, 2009, 09:37:34 PM
Is there anyone here who can screen capture the second photo of Caylee in this slide show for me please. Is that a big black eye I'm seeing?  TYIA!
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/20727408/detail.html


(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Image447.png)

It's a really grainy, poor quality picture.

I think what we see are the dark circles under her eyes that we often see.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Brandi on September 11, 2009, 09:38:28 PM
OOPs!

Late again. I was watching Dr. G lol

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: klaasend on September 11, 2009, 09:38:38 PM
Brandi - Dr. G's show is cool and Fanny is right about the channel.  See if you can get it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 11, 2009, 09:38:58 PM
Is there anyone here who can screen capture the second photo of Caylee in this slide show for me please. Is that a big black eye I'm seeing?  TYIA!
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/20727408/detail.html



Sure looks like a black eye to me.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/CayleeEye.jpg)

It does to me too!  However,  my 20 month old 4th cousin, Brook, is walking around with a shiner that she got at nursery school......children get bruises and black eyes....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: klaasend on September 11, 2009, 09:39:41 PM
Brandi - I think it may have been taken with a cell phone camera, thus the poor quality.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Brandi on September 11, 2009, 09:39:47 PM
Brandi - Dr. G's show is cool and Fanny is right about the channel.  See if you can get it.

Thank you both. I will.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 11, 2009, 09:41:17 PM
The end of another day...time to brush the dogs....Good Night to all!! ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 11, 2009, 09:42:58 PM
OOPs!

Late again. I was watching Dr. G lol

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

I was just about to say, that it's showing right now. It's a rerun, but I guess it wouldn't be for you!  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 09:44:14 PM
The end of another day...time to brush the dogs....Good Night to all!! ::MonkeyKiss::

Good night, SUNNY. You made a bad day better for me because you made me laugh.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: numbersgirl on September 11, 2009, 09:44:52 PM
Goodnight Sunny.......have a good one!   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 11, 2009, 09:47:04 PM
Klaas - thank you for the clarification.  I will stick to the black crayon, it make me look thinner anyway!   :smt109


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cecilita on September 11, 2009, 09:48:35 PM
Hello Monkeys,
Who remember Casey saying that caylee called her and Caylee told Casey that she was happy and reading a book or something like that... was a book in the vacant lot where caylee was found? i think that Casey always put a little bit of true in her lies


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 11, 2009, 09:49:03 PM
Thank you Klaas! I didn't notice her eye when the pics first came out and then I saw it earlier on the Caylee Daily site. It could be the dark circles we have seen in so many pictures, but I seems to run down onto her cheek some. I'm leaning towards a black eye myself. Might be why George snapped a pic of it as well. She just seemed to have an awful lot of bruising to the face. I raised a rambunctious boy and he never had as many marks on his face as Caylee did. The Caylee Daily pic is creepy with Casey attached to it.

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr286/olivegirl/Caylee/128970213280369374.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 11, 2009, 09:50:39 PM
Does anyone follow the Orlando Sentinel comments page? Cindy (posting as Orlando East) said that "the only water back in the search area was from Tim Miller's spilt vodka and urine".
I was glad to see that someone shot back at her- You should be careful of the laws of libel in Florida- and as far as I am aware there are no photos of Tim wasted, urinating in public, unlike Casey..
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Anthonys........ ::MonkeyNoNo::

WO, I have read there from time to time and I do believe this Orlando East is indeed sin-sin......and she posts some very nasty posts...but this my be a new low for her!!

Spindy has been using that alias for a long time, but I haven't seen it for a while. She was a regular on the Fox Blog for the longest while I was reading. Everyone had her number and knew it was her. Sometimes she would even repeat her statements on her "little cameo's" on the media. JMO

Is she still there?  I used to read there - what was her name?  I have a hunch, but it is between two. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 09:50:50 PM
Is there anyone here who can screen capture the second photo of Caylee in this slide show for me please. Is that a big black eye I'm seeing?  TYIA!
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/20727408/detail.html



Sure looks like a black eye to me.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/CayleeEye.jpg)

It does to me too!  However,  my 20 month old 4th cousin, Brook, is walking around with a shiner that she got at nursery school......children get bruises and black eyes....

CAYLEE sure had a lot of black eyes in her short lifetime.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 11, 2009, 09:53:39 PM
Oh! Brandi, thank you too for the screen shot. Boy, around here, ask and you will definitely receive. You all are great!  ::MonkeyHeart::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 11, 2009, 09:56:01 PM
Brandi - I think it may have been taken with a cell phone camera, thus the poor quality.

I am 99% positive that one of the news sites attributed this pic as having come from georgies cell phone.  All of those pics were haunting to me.  She looked drugged and sooooooo sad. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Brandi on September 11, 2009, 09:58:07 PM
OOPs!

Late again. I was watching Dr. G lol

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

I was just about to say, that it's showing right now. It's a rerun, but I guess it wouldn't be for you!  ::MonkeyAngel::

LOL Gizzie!

I meant I was watching the video of Dr. G that Klaas posted. heh

http://www.wesh.com/news/20850570/detail.html

Guess I wasn't too clear about that. ;-)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 11, 2009, 10:00:03 PM
Hello Monkeys,
Who remember Casey saying that caylee called her and Caylee told Casey that she was happy and reading a book or something like that... was a book in the vacant lot where caylee was found? i think that Casey always put a little bit of true in her lies

Cecilita - yes, she told this story when she said caylee talked to her on ZG phone.  Another of her lies. 
The item in the woods was a sign to a preschool if my memory serves me correct, but it was not the book.
Casey - HUGE WASTE!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 11, 2009, 10:08:06 PM
Hello Monkeys,
Who remember Casey saying that caylee called her and Caylee told Casey that she was happy and reading a book or something like that... was a book in the vacant lot where caylee was found? i think that Casey always put a little bit of true in her lies
I don't recall seeing that a book was found at the crime scene. I know a lot of us thought that the sign that was found, was Caylee's book she was reading in the video with her great grandfather for awhile.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 11, 2009, 10:18:52 PM
Hello Monkeys,
Who remember Casey saying that caylee called her and Caylee told Casey that she was happy and reading a book or something like that... was a book in the vacant lot where caylee was found? i think that Casey always put a little bit of true in her lies
I don't recall seeing that a book was found at the crime scene. I know a lot of us thought that the sign that was found, was Caylee's book she was reading in the video with her great grandfather for awhile.
I finally found the pic!  (http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr286/olivegirl/Caylee/45123910.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 10:25:25 PM
Hello Monkeys,
Who remember Casey saying that caylee called her and Caylee told Casey that she was happy and reading a book or something like that... was a book in the vacant lot where caylee was found? i think that Casey always put a little bit of true in her lies
I don't recall seeing that a book was found at the crime scene. I know a lot of us thought that the sign that was found, was Caylee's book she was reading in the video with her great grandfather for awhile.
I finally found the pic!  (http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr286/olivegirl/Caylee/45123910.jpg)

Yes, I know for the longest we thought that was the book in the first released pictures of the crime scene. I did too. It wasn't till later we found out what it was. I wonder where the book ended up and if it was found?

You certainly have a lot of pictures TUPELO. You and SEEME really can lay your hands on them. Thank you.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cecilita on September 11, 2009, 10:28:34 PM
thank you guys, i did not know that it was a sign..... ::MonkeyTease:: ...


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cecilita on September 11, 2009, 10:29:42 PM
omg where those smiley faces come out ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 10:30:13 PM
Hello Monkeys,
Who remember Casey saying that caylee called her and Caylee told Casey that she was happy and reading a book or something like that... was a book in the vacant lot where caylee was found? i think that Casey always put a little bit of true in her lies

CECELITA, it is always good to see you posting here.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 10:32:59 PM
omg where those smiley faces come out ::MonkeyConfused::

There are a lot of new, extra things. If you click on the [more] by the monkey icons, you will see many very cute ones.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cecilita on September 11, 2009, 10:33:57 PM
Hello Monkeys,
Who remember Casey saying that caylee called her and Caylee told Casey that she was happy and reading a book or something like that... was a book in the vacant lot where caylee was found? i think that Casey always put a little bit of true in her lies

CECELITA, it is always good to see you posting here.   ::MonkeyAngel::
Thank you Fanny... ::MonkeyTongue::
I am being busy in the last month, my hubby put me in belly dance classes as a present of my birthday ::MonkeyMad:: it seems that it was his birthday because the belly dance classes come with Victoria secret items ::MonkeyDevil2::
I always remember my monkey friends and caylee ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cecilita on September 11, 2009, 10:36:18 PM
cindy in my space wrote where is my caylee it means she knew that caylee was gone because maybe she heard from casey friends that caylee was in disney ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 11, 2009, 10:37:51 PM
Hello Monkeys,
Who remember Casey saying that caylee called her and Caylee told Casey that she was happy and reading a book or something like that... was a book in the vacant lot where caylee was found? i think that Casey always put a little bit of true in her lies

CECELITA, it is always good to see you posting here.   ::MonkeyAngel::
Thank you Fanny... ::MonkeyTongue::
I am being busy in the last month, my hubby put me in belly dance classes as a present of my birthday ::MonkeyMad:: it seems that it was his birthday because the belly dance classes come with Victoria secret items ::MonkeyDevil2::
I always remember my monkey friends and caylee ::MonkeyCheer4::

 ::MonkeyDevil::
Belly dancing lessons and Victoria' Secret. We know where his mind is. I understand the comment you made that night about a lion looking at you like he was going to eat you.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

9/11 is always a bad day for me. I am glad I was here with all you monkeys, and I am going to say Good Night, Ya'll. And God bless.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 11, 2009, 10:39:16 PM

Yes, I know for the longest we thought that was the book in the first released pictures of the crime scene. I did too. It wasn't till later we found out what it was. I wonder where the book ended up and if it was found?

You certainly have a lot of pictures TUPELO. You and SEEME really can lay your hands on them. Thank you.  ::MonkeyAngel::
I have too many pics of this case! They are on my PB and computer and I'm afraid to delete any of them until this case is settled. Just never know when they will be needed.

I want to say that the Suppertime book should be at the Anthony house. It was last seen with Caylee at the nursing home while in Cindy's care. Of course, there is no way of knowing. But I just can't see Casey grabbing up that book after a fight with Cindy before leaving the house, if indeed she did leave the house that night. Casey knew there was a video of Caylee reading that book and I feel she referred to it in her lies because of that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cecilita on September 11, 2009, 10:41:38 PM
Hello Monkeys,
Who remember Casey saying that caylee called her and Caylee told Casey that she was happy and reading a book or something like that... was a book in the vacant lot where caylee was found? i think that Casey always put a little bit of true in her lies

CECELITA, it is always good to see you posting here.   ::MonkeyAngel::
Thank you Fanny... ::MonkeyTongue::
I am being busy in the last month, my hubby put me in belly dance classes as a present of my birthday ::MonkeyMad:: it seems that it was his birthday because the belly dance classes come with Victoria secret items ::MonkeyDevil2::
I always remember my monkey friends and caylee ::MonkeyCheer4::

 ::MonkeyDevil::
Belly dancing lessons and Victoria' Secret. We know where his mind is. I understand the comment you made that night about a lion looking at you like he was going to eat you.  ::MonkeyDevil2::

9/11 is always a bad day for me. I am glad I was here with all you monkeys, and I am going to say Good Night, Ya'll. And God bless.  ::MonkeyAngel::
Haha yes he is terrible!!! miauuu ::MonkeyDevil2::
good night fanny and for me too 9/11 is a bad day....i remeber going to the airpot that day..it was sad....so many inocents died only for sick people...GOD BLESS AMERICA my second country ::MonkeyCheer3::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cecilita on September 11, 2009, 10:43:36 PM

Yes, I know for the longest we thought that was the book in the first released pictures of the crime scene. I did too. It wasn't till later we found out what it was. I wonder where the book ended up and if it was found?

You certainly have a lot of pictures TUPELO. You and SEEME really can lay your hands on them. Thank you.  ::MonkeyAngel::
I have too many pics of this case! They are on my PB and computer and I'm afraid to delete any of them until this case is settled. Just never know when they will be needed.

I want to say that the Suppertime book should be at the Anthony house. It was last seen with Caylee at the nursing home while in Cindy's care. Of course, there is no way of knowing. But I just can't see Casey grabbing up that book after a fight with Cindy before leaving the house, if indeed she did leave the house that night. Casey knew there was a video of Caylee reading that book and I feel she referred to it in her lies because of that.
Tupelo believe me that Cindy is praying for you to delete those pictures by mistake.....just in case i will save them ::MonkeyTease::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Babybear on September 11, 2009, 10:50:53 PM

Yes, I know for the longest we thought that was the book in the first released pictures of the crime scene. I did too. It wasn't till later we found out what it was. I wonder where the book ended up and if it was found?

You certainly have a lot of pictures TUPELO. You and SEEME really can lay your hands on them. Thank you.  ::MonkeyAngel::
I have too many pics of this case! They are on my PB and computer and I'm afraid to delete any of them until this case is settled. Just never know when they will be needed.

I want to say that the Suppertime book should be at the Anthony house. It was last seen with Caylee at the nursing home while in Cindy's care. Of course, there is no way of knowing. But I just can't see Casey grabbing up that book after a fight with Cindy before leaving the house, if indeed she did leave the house that night. Casey knew there was a video of Caylee reading that book and I feel she referred to it in her lies because of that.

Tupelohoney---That's a really good point about why Casey mentioned that Caylee was talking about a book in that last nonexistent phone call.  I hadn't thought of that but once you posted it, it is perfectly obvious.  Good thinking.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 11, 2009, 11:22:19 PM
Brandi - I think it may have been taken with a cell phone camera, thus the poor quality.

I am 99% positive that one of the news sites attributed this pic as having come from georgies cell phone.  All of those pics were haunting to me.  She looked drugged and sooooooo sad. 

ANJM- I thought the exact same thing about drugged.  That was my first thought when I saw those pics.  Caylee's expressions are very "off" in quite a few of them.  The black eye one was horrible.  It's not just the way it runs down onto her cheek, but she's expressionless.  If her Jo-Jo is taking her pic, she should either be excited (beaming) or annoyed (tired).  She's emotionally "flat" (as in no response, devoid of warmth/vitality/personality).  I wish I could clearly see her pupils from that shot, as her eyes seem excessively large in relation to her other features.  Maybe her eyes stand out more because she appears rather pale (poor lighting maybe-one can only hope).  JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 11, 2009, 11:29:57 PM
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/20727408/detail.html (http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/20727408/detail.html)  Pics 13-15

IMO, Caylee looks like she is sick here.  At first I just thought sunburned, but then I saw her right eye in the last pic (laying down with her head on the pillow).  She doesn't look like she felt all that good.  I hope I'm wrong.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: ISpy on September 11, 2009, 11:41:27 PM
Two posts up *Self-edit*  WESH site states pics believed to be taken on Casey's Motorola phone.

With that, I am out of here.  LOL!  Time to go beddie bye.  Have a good evening and take care!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 11, 2009, 11:55:22 PM
Sunny,I'm with you about the Anthonys.   ::MonkeyDevil2::
They should be ashamed of themselves.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I've decided that the Anthonys are America's version of the van Der Sloots. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: loca on September 12, 2009, 01:14:59 AM
http://suncoastpinellas.tbo.com/content/2009/sep/11/111419/clearwater-boy-was-reported-missing-9-years-ago-to/


For 3 Florida families, 9/11 is a day to remember vanished children

(snipped
western
can you please. Send
me a copy of cins comments that you sAid Cindy posted I spent a long time there couldn't find it I
am on my eye phone this weekend awAy from home new phone notlike being home
hugs
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Cindy and George Anthony were also at this morning's walk. The Anthony's daughter is currently in jail, accused of killing her daughter, and their granddaughter, Caylee Anthony.

George Anthony said he attended the event to show his support for other families who've lost loved ones.

"There's some individuals out there that they think,'this will never happen to me. I don't have to worry about it,'" Anthony said. "But when it does, we're going to be there to help them."

I think George and Spindy are more despicable every day that goes by.

I have nothing but compassion and feelings of love for the families of the missing. I cannot even begin to understand their pain. I am sure that none of them have profitted off the person missing from their life. All they want is their loved one back or found. I feel I must add, just my opinion, lest my viewpoint is attacked.   ::MonkeyAngel::


I so agree with you Fanny.  And everytime they show up to 'help' someone, it just makes my blood boil...as you know these self-absorbed idiots never gave a rat's behind nor one penny donation to any of these people nor causes.  And to top it off...they aren't there for anyone else but themselves now.

 ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad:: ::MonkeyMad::

CAYLEE was never missing! But at last she was found, thank God!  ::MonkeyAngel::

And not by anything the Anthonys EVER did!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 12, 2009, 01:19:45 AM
<respectfully snipped by Desi>
I want to say that the Suppertime book should be at the Anthony house. It was last seen with Caylee at the nursing home while in Cindy's care. Of course, there is no way of knowing. But I just can't see Casey grabbing up that book after a fight with Cindy before leaving the house, if indeed she did leave the house that night. Casey knew there was a video of Caylee reading that book and I feel she referred to it in her lies because of that.
Interesting topic, and I'm glad Cecilita brought it up.  Anybody wonder what might have happened to that book after the nursing home visit? Did we ever hear whether LE found that book at the Anthony home?  If so, would they be able to tell whether it was the actual book from the video or a recently purchased replacement (a la Pooh blanket, as we suspect)?

The fact that Casey referred to this book in her bogus phone-call story, implying that the book was missing along with Caylee, might possibly be a real clue.  Remember, she also referred to Caylee talking about her shoes.  And no shoes of Caylee's were found at the remains site that we know of, nor the book.

I am thinking of something Cindy babbled on about in one of her LE interviews.  She said Caylee had a lot of different backpacks, and that they would pack one for Caylee every day.... and then she added (nervously? compulsively? calculatedly?) that she, Cindy would always clean out the backpacks when Caylee came home.

So, Cindy most likely took a backpack to the nursing home on Fathers Day, for Caylee's coloring books, crayons, sippy cup, the Suppertime for Frieda Fuzzypaw book, probably a couple of pull-ups, etc.

Did Cindy unpack everything when they got home?  Maybe, maybe not.  Why did Casey mention the book one month later when LE became involved?  Was Casey somehow aware that the items in that backpack would not be found in the Anthony home?   

I wonder....


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 12, 2009, 01:26:41 AM
OOPs!

Late again. I was watching Dr. G lol

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

I was just about to say, that it's showing right now. It's a rerun, but I guess it wouldn't be for you!  ::MonkeyAngel::

LOL Gizzie!

I meant I was watching the video of Dr. G that Klaas posted. heh

http://www.wesh.com/news/20850570/detail.html

Guess I wasn't too clear about that. ;-)

Ooo..oops!  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 12, 2009, 01:40:07 AM
Is there anyone here who can screen capture the second photo of Caylee in this slide show for me please. Is that a big black eye I'm seeing?  TYIA!
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/20727408/detail.html
Sure looks like a black eye to me.
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/CayleeEye.jpg)
It does to me too!  However,  my 20 month old 4th cousin, Brook, is walking around with a shiner that she got at nursery school......children get bruises and black eyes....
CAYLEE sure had a lot of black eyes in her short lifetime.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Thank you Tupelo for bringing up the question of whether Caylee has a black eye in that picture.  And thank you Klaas for posting the pic.  Have we seen a lot of other pictures showing Caylee with a black eye?

I ask because Fanny said Caylee had a lot of black eyes in her short lifetime... and with all due respect to her, I have this theory related to events that may have led up to Caylee's death:  She was perhaps being abused, probably by Casey, but not until shortly before her death, IMO.  Of course, ICBW -- it's only a theory.   But I have looked through my own pics of Caylee and not noticed a lot of black eyes.  (I have noticed several facial injuries, mostly when she was older, which to me seems more than the norm, and possibly suspicious.) 

However, in the photo where Caylee is in a pink shirt, wearing the printed head scarf, presumably in a public place, she appears to be recovering from the same or a similar possible black eye as the one that seems apparent in the photo you asked about.  (Scarf pic is below; note that Caylee is wearing the same dazed expression and maybe even the same shirt as in the pic posted above.)

I agree with those who are pointing out that Caylee looks drugged or ill in the new photos.  Poor baby.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Brandi on September 12, 2009, 04:04:09 AM
Desi:

I believe that is the same pink shirt in both photographs.

She is just wearing different head gear.

Possibly the same day.

I am one of the few who do not think she had a black eye. I think what I see are the typical dark circles under her eyes that we often see with her. And different lighting that the camera picks up oddly.

JMO, and I know it is not a popular one, and not one I want to push on others. Just wanted to say it.

 ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 12, 2009, 07:02:09 AM
(http://www.funmunch.com/graphics/good_morning/graphics/good_morning_1.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 12, 2009, 07:03:00 AM
Sunny,I'm with you about the Anthonys.   ::MonkeyDevil2::
They should be ashamed of themselves.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I've decided that the Anthonys are America's version of the van Der Sloots. 

Exactly. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 12, 2009, 09:06:04 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!!

Morgan & Morgan filed NEW motions to compel D. Casey to appear for deposition and motion for sanction with exhibits
http://www.forthepeople.com/casey-anthony-case.htm
http://www.forthepeople.com/New_Motion_to_Compel.pdf
http://www.forthepeople.com/Exhibit_D.pdf


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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 12, 2009, 09:12:36 AM
http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/Details_Ody.aspx?SessionID=c6e168db-c224-4b10-a8ce-1b0cfa3c4d32&CaseID=1450829

9/11/2009     Exhibits in Support of      Exhibit in Support of PLTAINTIFF'S NEW MOTION TO COMPEL - B     FERNANDEZ-GONZALEZ ZENAIDA
9/11/2009    Exhibits in Support of    Exhibit in Support of PLAINTIFF'S NEW MOTION TO COMPEL - C    FERNANDEZ-GONZALEZ ZENAIDA
9/11/2009    Exhibits in Support of    Exhibit in Support of PLAINTIFF'S NEW MOTION TO COMPEL - D    FERNANDEZ-GONZALEZ ZENAIDA
9/11/2009    Motion to Compel    Motion to Compel DOMINIC CASEY'S APPEARANCE AT DEPOSITION    FERNANDEZ-GONZALEZ ZENAIDA
9/11/2009    Exhibits in Support of    Exhibit in Support of PLAINTIFF'S NEW MOTION TO COMPEL - A PART 1 OF 2    FERNANDEZ-GONZALEZ ZENAIDA
9/11/2009    Exhibits in Support of    Exhibit in Support of PLTAINTIFF'S NEW MOTION TO COMPEL - A PART 2 OF 2    FERNANDEZ-GONZALEZ ZENAIDA


http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/Details.aspx?SessionID=c6e168db-c224-4b10-a8ce-1b0cfa3c4d32&CaseID=6079536
9/10/2009     A     STATE OF FLORIDA'S MOTION TO COMPEL RECIPROCAL DISCOVERY FILED        (Murder case)




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 12, 2009, 09:21:43 AM
Is there anyone here who can screen capture the second photo of Caylee in this slide show for me please. Is that a big black eye I'm seeing?  TYIA!
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/20727408/detail.html
Sure looks like a black eye to me.
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/CayleeEye.jpg)
It does to me too!  However,  my 20 month old 4th cousin, Brook, is walking around with a shiner that she got at nursery school......children get bruises and black eyes....
CAYLEE sure had a lot of black eyes in her short lifetime.  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Thank you Tupelo for bringing up the question of whether Caylee has a black eye in that picture.  And thank you Klaas for posting the pic.  Have we seen a lot of other pictures showing Caylee with a black eye?

I ask because Fanny said Caylee had a lot of black eyes in her short lifetime... and with all due respect to her, I have this theory related to events that may have led up to Caylee's death:  She was perhaps being abused, probably by Casey, but not until shortly before her death, IMO.  Of course, ICBW -- it's only a theory.   But I have looked through my own pics of Caylee and not noticed a lot of black eyes.  (I have noticed several facial injuries, mostly when she was older, which to me seems more than the norm, and possibly suspicious.) 

However, in the photo where Caylee is in a pink shirt, wearing the printed head scarf, presumably in a public place, she appears to be recovering from the same or a similar possible black eye as the one that seems apparent in the photo you asked about.  (Scarf pic is below; note that Caylee is wearing the same dazed expression and maybe even the same shirt as in the pic posted above.)

I agree with those who are pointing out that Caylee looks drugged or ill in the new photos.  Poor baby.

One thing for certain, Caylee does not look like a happy 2 1/2 year old by any means in any of her last pictures. And we also have Cindy's (I think) statement that Caylee was never ill. She would have most likely made a statement that Caylee had been ill right before she left with Casey, there isn't such a statement. No phone texts that state Caylee was ill in June either. No such statement from anyone, any where, that Caylee was sick.  I'm undecided if this is a black eye as the cell phone produced a poor quality image. But something is not right.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 12, 2009, 09:48:23 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!!

Morgan & Morgan filed NEW motions to compel D. Casey to appear for deposition and motion for sanction with exhibits
http://www.forthepeople.com/casey-anthony-case.htm
http://www.forthepeople.com/New_Motion_to_Compel.pdf
http://www.forthepeople.com/Exhibit_D.pdf


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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 12, 2009, 10:15:51 AM

Thank you Tupelo for bringing up the question of whether Caylee has a black eye in that picture.  And thank you Klaas for posting the pic.  Have we seen a lot of other pictures showing Caylee with a black eye?

I ask because Fanny said Caylee had a lot of black eyes in her short lifetime... and with all due respect to her, I have this theory related to events that may have led up to Caylee's death:  She was perhaps being abused, probably by Casey, but not until shortly before her death, IMO.  Of course, ICBW -- it's only a theory.   But I have looked through my own pics of Caylee and not noticed a lot of black eyes.  (I have noticed several facial injuries, mostly when she was older, which to me seems more than the norm, and possibly suspicious.) 

However, in the photo where Caylee is in a pink shirt, wearing the printed head scarf, presumably in a public place, she appears to be recovering from the same or a similar possible black eye as the one that seems apparent in the photo you asked about.  (Scarf pic is below; note that Caylee is wearing the same dazed expression and maybe even the same shirt as in the pic posted above.)

I agree with those who are pointing out that Caylee looks drugged or ill in the new photos.  Poor baby.

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Good Morning Everyone.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Yes, there have been many pictures showing Caylee with obvious black eyes, not just dark circles, under them. The bruises would be on different eyes on different occassions. I had many of them on my photobucket, but deleted them because they upset me so much. Maybe someone who has some complete files of her pictures will post them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 12, 2009, 10:18:03 AM
 Who is Steven Perry Sr?

Casey Anthony, Steven Perry Sr offers 1 Million for the real Zanny Nanny

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10462373/Casey-Anthony-Steven-Perry-Sr-offers-1-Million-for-the-real-Zanny-Nanny


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 12, 2009, 10:18:58 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!!

Morgan & Morgan filed NEW motions to compel D. Casey to appear for deposition and motion for sanction with exhibits
http://www.forthepeople.com/casey-anthony-case.htm
http://www.forthepeople.com/New_Motion_to_Compel.pdf
http://www.forthepeople.com/Exhibit_D.pdf


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I knew Morgan and Mitnick would not take this sitting down!

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 12, 2009, 10:19:51 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!!

Morgan & Morgan filed NEW motions to compel D. Casey to appear for deposition and motion for sanction with exhibits
http://www.forthepeople.com/casey-anthony-case.htm
http://www.forthepeople.com/New_Motion_to_Compel.pdf
http://www.forthepeople.com/Exhibit_D.pdf


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Good Morning Monks old and new!!  HOT DAMN!!  HOT DAMN!! HOT DAMN!!!  Go Morgan!  Go Morgan!  GO Morgan!!  YEEHAW!!  HOT DDDDAAAAMMMMNNNNNNNN!!!! ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 12, 2009, 10:23:03 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!!

Morgan & Morgan filed NEW motions to compel D. Casey to appear for deposition and motion for sanction with exhibits
http://www.forthepeople.com/casey-anthony-case.htm
http://www.forthepeople.com/New_Motion_to_Compel.pdf
http://www.forthepeople.com/Exhibit_D.pdf


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This is great.  I can not open them though .  Can someone tell me if Morgan mentions the declaration that DC did  for the Fl Bar http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10715409/Declaration-of-Dominic-Casey---FL-Bar where he spells out the dates of his engagement for Baez?  I really hope Morgan has copies of that one.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 12, 2009, 10:23:38 AM
Who is Steven Perry Sr?

Casey Anthony, Steven Perry Sr offers 1 Million for the real Zanny Nanny

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10462373/Casey-Anthony-Steven-Perry-Sr-offers-1-Million-for-the-real-Zanny-Nanny

There used to be a poster, again on the Fox Blog, who posted under the name of "Old Man Perry." Supposedly he lived in Arizona and had a lot of money and interest in the case. I don't know if it was one and the same, but I have often thought he was. He seemed to be rather eccentric. I don't have time to read over there anymore, and I don't know if he still posts there. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Northern Rose on September 12, 2009, 10:32:23 AM
Who is Steven Perry Sr?

Casey Anthony, Steven Perry Sr offers 1 Million for the real Zanny Nanny

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10462373/Casey-Anthony-Steven-Perry-Sr-offers-1-Million-for-the-real-Zanny-Nanny

There used to be a poster, again on the Fox Blog, who posted under the name of "Old Man Perry." Supposedly he lived in Arizona and had a lot of money and interest in the case. I don't know if it was one and the same, but I have often thought he was. He seemed to be rather eccentric. I don't have time to read over there anymore, and I don't know if he still posts there. JMO

Thank you Fanny.  I do not recall this name or offer.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 12, 2009, 10:53:36 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!!

Morgan & Morgan filed NEW motions to compel D. Casey to appear for deposition and motion for sanction with exhibits
http://www.forthepeople.com/casey-anthony-case.htm
http://www.forthepeople.com/New_Motion_to_Compel.pdf
http://www.forthepeople.com/Exhibit_D.pdf


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This is great.  I can not open them though .  Can someone tell me if Morgan mentions the declaration that DC did  for the Fl Bar http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10715409/Declaration-of-Dominic-Casey---FL-Bar where he spells out the dates of his engagement for Baez?  I really hope Morgan has copies of that one.

I quickly scanned through the new filings, and I see no mention of the Decaration D. Casey made to the Florida Bar. It certainly seems Morgan and Mitnick could use it, as it is an official document in D Casey's own words. JMO


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 12, 2009, 10:56:27 AM
Good morning Monkeys.   ::MonkeyAngel::

Found this interesting, but long article:

http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2009/09/12/a-matter-of-reciprocal-discovery/
A matter of reciprocal discovery
September 12, 2009

(snipped):

If the evidence remains part of an investigation, one that’s ongoing, any part “may be” surgically removed. But, is it enough to keep the defense’s evidence out of the hands of the public if it is ordered by the court to turn it over to the prosecution? In order to find an answer, I made a phone call. I did this yesterday, after 5:00 pm and I did it on the assumption that lawyers never keep banker’s hours. I guessed right.

“Hello,” the man answered after the phone rang one or two times.

“Hello, my name is Dave Knechel and I have a couple of questions regarding the Casey Anthony case,” I said. “May I ask who I am speaking to?”

“Yes, this is Jose.”

“Are you…”

“One of the Jose’s? Yes…”

“… Jose Baez?”

“No, but I am Jose.”

Close enough, but no Cuban cigar. I discussed a couple of issues pertaining to the civil case; the defamation lawsuit. He told me the Baez Law Firm has nothing to do with the civil litigation. Keep that information in your back pocket.

“Only the criminal?” I asked.

“Yes, only the criminal.” You see how easy it is to get information out of people?

“So, Jonathan Kasen is not affiliated with Jose Baez?”

“No, not at all.”

I proceeded to ask him gingerly about state law, Chapter 119  of the Florida statutes in particular. We discussed some things, but he was very reluctant to give up much information regarding this case because, after all, his client is Casey Anthony. I understood that fully, but I still managed to use my usual methods of persuasion and finally, I got an answer. Again, I reiterated that I want nothing from him that would reveal anything pertaining to his client. All I needed to know was a matter of law and why not come right to the source?

“Exemption” means a provision of general law which provides that a specified record or meeting, or portion thereof, is not subject to the access requirements of s. 119.07(1), s. 286.011, or s. 24, Art. I of the State Constitution.

Specifically, I wanted to know whether any of the evidence Todd Macaluso brought up at the August hearing would be revealed because of open government and public records laws. I wasn’t at all interested in how the judge would decide. I told him I was aware that discovery materials have nothing to do with Florida’s Government in the Sunshine Law, and that discovery is evidence shared, back and forth, by the prosecution and defense. That’s all the discovery aspect means. He agreed. Again, he reminded me that he wasn’t going to share any of the discovery information. I told him I wasn’t looking for any. I said I’m only concerned about whether this evidence, clearly a part of the defense’s strategy, could wind up in the hands of the public due to the sunshine law.

“I mean, is it only state’s evidence we get to see or does it include the defense’s side, too, once its handed over to the state?”

“It all depends.” He responded. “It might or it might not.”

That sounded very confusing, but we continued, and what he told me was something rather surprising. I thought it would not see the light of day until trial. Others told me it should be out in the open. Most of us merely guessed. In the end, it will come down to what the judge thinks. First, there will be the motion hearing, of course. Then, the judge will decide if the defense must turn over its secrets. My guess is he will say yes because the “defense made reference to this allegedly exculpatory evidence.” Why spend more of the state’s money? That’s a good argument. If the defense has any material that will clear their client of guilt or fault, why not vindicate her now and get it over with?

Needless to say, Jose and I did not discuss his thoughts on how the judge would rule, but we did talk about “discoverable material” and how Judge Strickland will ultimately decide what will be allowed to filter out into the public’s hands and what will not. That is, if the state gets its way.

I believe the two sides will come to some sort of “behind closed doors” agreement beforehand, yet insist the motion be heard in court for the simple reason of assurances. We’ll gladly turn over the material if you tell the judge you have no problems keeping it under wraps. Trust me, the state doesn’t care if we or anyone in the media sees it or not, nor does the judge. Personally, I don’t think any bombshells exist, but remember, I didn’t hear anything like that from Jose.

In the final analysis, it’s a matter of reciprocal discovery. Here was my opinion.



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 12, 2009, 11:20:22 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!!

Morgan & Morgan filed NEW motions to compel D. Casey to appear for deposition and motion for sanction with exhibits
http://www.forthepeople.com/casey-anthony-case.htm
http://www.forthepeople.com/New_Motion_to_Compel.pdf
http://www.forthepeople.com/Exhibit_D.pdf


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Still reading this yummy morning coffee set of motions, but 
::MonkeyCheer2::  MORGAN doesn't mess around!!!!!!   ::MonkeyCheer2::
He hits DC and Tennislady hard with this:  "There is an obligation for candor to the tribunal which was violated."  OUCH!!! ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

If you are not familiar with the bold terms and want to read more - I found a to the point link here:
http://www.floridabar.org/divexe/rrtfb.nsf/FV/C7603354C3858947852574F60059B58C
Back to reading -..........and GOOD MORNING a tad late!  ::MonkeySlide:: ::MonkeySlide::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 12, 2009, 11:24:58 AM
Thanks CECE, it was an interesting article.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Scatty on September 12, 2009, 11:30:26 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!!

Morgan & Morgan filed NEW motions to compel D. Casey to appear for deposition and motion for sanction with exhibits
http://www.forthepeople.com/casey-anthony-case.htm
http://www.forthepeople.com/New_Motion_to_Compel.pdf
http://www.forthepeople.com/Exhibit_D.pdf


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This is great.  I can not open them though .  Can someone tell me if Morgan mentions the declaration that DC did  for the Fl Bar http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10715409/Declaration-of-Dominic-Casey---FL-Bar where he spells out the dates of his engagement for Baez?  I really hope Morgan has copies of that one.

I quickly scanned through the new filings, and I see no mention of the Decaration D. Casey made to the Florida Bar. It certainly seems Morgan and Mitnick could use it, as it is an official document in D Casey's own words. JMO

Is it possible for you to email Morgan & Mitnick the link? I think they'd be uber-grateful!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 12, 2009, 11:35:08 AM
Back a month or so ago we were talking about Gale St. John being near where Caylee was found and we only had a small clip of her drive by. Here is the video in full. To me, it seems as if they drove a little past Caylee's spot, got out of the car and continued to walk forward away from Caylee.  But then later on, they are stopped, talking about coming back, hiding the car to search again. If you look out the window, there across the street it looks to me as if it is the house and backyard of the kid who was interviewed by the media the day Caylee was found. I'm confused. ANJ, please tell me your theory on this.

http://psychicgalestjohn.com/blinddrive.htm


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 12, 2009, 11:36:49 AM
Thanks CECE, it was an interesting article.   ::MonkeyAngel::

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 12, 2009, 11:40:46 AM
Bringing over comment from Blink in regard to DCasey:  (I hope this is not inappropriate.  If so, could a mod remove it for me)

[Reply to comment #166]

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/09/09/cayleecasey-case-dominic-casey-takes-stand-in-zenaida-gonzalez-case/

I will say this in deference to him, as he knows an associate of mine well. I don’t think he had a clue what he signed on for like half the other people that Baez duped, and make no mistake, when I say duped, I say D U P E D. I truly believe this guy started out thinking Caylee was kidnapped ( don’t even light the torch people I have my reasons). That changed at some point, and he has been backpedaling ever since, out of necessity to save his own ass. He knows what agreements are dated, to the letter, thus why they were not there at the hearing. He lied on the stand, he changed his testimony and I will bet a gazzillion I do not have that he won’t meet with LE as he promised he would if they had any other questions. Because I promise they will after that testimony. He had knowledge from somewhere that he is not copping to.
B


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 12, 2009, 11:43:45 AM
D. Casey's declaration is even on his own website.   http://dgator.com/CMADocumentVolume10.aspx


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: karenmamo on September 12, 2009, 12:45:13 PM
We must be locked up or something.  Not a single post in more than an hour? ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 12, 2009, 01:03:10 PM
Comments made about Judge Rodriguez:

http://www.ratethecourts.com/comments.php?id=150880


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 12, 2009, 01:23:19 PM
Good Morning Monkeys!!

Morgan & Morgan filed NEW motions to compel D. Casey to appear for deposition and motion for sanction with exhibits
http://www.forthepeople.com/casey-anthony-case.htm
http://www.forthepeople.com/New_Motion_to_Compel.pdf
http://www.forthepeople.com/Exhibit_D.pdf


 ::MonkeyCheer2:: ::MonkeyCheer2::


Thank you so much !   Very helpul-I never would have seen it had you not posted as I don't peruse Mr. Mrogan's site as I should.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 12, 2009, 01:43:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/64Q5p3CksIg&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x3a3a3a&color2=0x999999&border=1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 12, 2009, 01:59:33 PM
Regarding Joy Wray:  (This is someone else's work)

page 44   http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19735491/detail.html
Handwritten Statement dated 10/01/08
was part of the search for Caylee Marie Anthony, the search was called Equasearch based out of Texas. Equasearch sign me "Joy" as a teamleader...." She went on to explain how she had found a blanket 3-4 weeks and forgot to give it to Sheriff Beary.


http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19735491/detail.html
LE interview -

Page 2-3 she said she was at the Suburban Drive location 2 times - 1 time with TES and 1 time with her husband, BUT on page 25, line 20 she said "I've been out here probably about, I don't know how many times.I lo..lost count. AND on page 26, line 3 she said "over ten, ten, twenty times." She said she took the pics from that area 30' from the fence. My note - Caylee's skull was 19'8" south of Suburban Drive page 17 http://www.wftv.com/_blank/18740668/detail.ht...

Pages 26 - 27, she said she searched only the area where Caylee was found 2 days after Caylee was reported missing. She never searched down by the school or the other side of the road. She said it was a gut feeling.

Page 28 - LE asked her about the 2nd time she came out to the Suburban Drive area. She said "probably three weeks later". On page 29, she said there was standing water.... approximately 6" and it got deeper; she started "to sink a little bit".

Page 30, LE asks her when was the first time she was in there with water and she said "When uh, Equusearch was doing their searches." and she was there for "every one" of TES searches in that area, but she can't remember how many times, but...

On page 31, she said she was out there probably ten times by herself and half of the time there was standing water; page 32 she said the first times she saw water was her 3rd or 4th trip out there; it was 3-4 weeks after her first trip which was the second day after Caylee was reported missing.

Page 34-35 She told LE "George and them....Kid Finders" brainwashed her; George gave her a picture of the kidnapper's car and told her the kidnapper had short brown hair, brownish/green eyes, 5'6" - 5'7" tall, skinny, real nice dresser and real pretty.

And finally on page 45, LE's incident report, states Joy told LE she had been Baker Acted five times, she was "arrested for fleeing and eluding police, however the charges were dropped due to her mental state"



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 12, 2009, 02:32:49 PM
Would love to have known what was going through everyone else's minds when they saw George & Cindy show up at the Missing Childrens' Outreach.   How awkward.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 12, 2009, 02:41:59 PM
Would love to have known what was going through everyone else's minds when they saw George & Cindy show up at the Missing Childrens' Outreach.   How awkward.
   ::MonkeyEek::  But never for Cindy and George, I'll give them one thing, and one thing only, they sure have the guts to go places even if nobody wants to look at them, or have nothing to do with them. You would think their embarrassment would be overpowering, but I guess that is a thing they are totally lacking  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 12, 2009, 03:07:25 PM
Back a month or so ago we were talking about Gale St. John being near where Caylee was found and we only had a small clip of her drive by. Here is the video in full. To me, it seems as if they drove a little past Caylee's spot, got out of the car and continued to walk forward away from Caylee.  But then later on, they are stopped, talking about coming back, hiding the car to search again. If you look out the window, there across the street it looks to me as if it is the house and backyard of the kid who was interviewed by the media the day Caylee was found. I'm confused. ANJ, please tell me your theory on this.

http://psychicgalestjohn.com/blinddrive.htm
Just wanted to say thanks for this link - it is even better than the one I was using.  I will get that together soon and post it or email it as I know it is not a well received idea! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on September 12, 2009, 03:11:28 PM
Would love to have known what was going through everyone else's minds when they saw George & Cindy show up at the Missing Childrens' Outreach.   How awkward.
   ::MonkeyEek::  But never for Cindy and George, I'll give them one thing, and one thing only, they sure have the guts to go places even if nobody wants to look at them, or have nothing to do with them. You would think their embarrassment would be overpowering, but I guess that is a thing they are totally lacking  ::MonkeyRoll::



I’m trying to get past being shocked, angered or surprised by the actions of this appalling family. They are now infamous and are the poster children for how not to act when your daughter murders your grandchild.  I cannot understand why they were allowed to desecrate this latest memorial for missing children. What a shame that some people are not aware of their true motivations, $$$$$$. My heart goes out to the families truly grieving, but those grifters get nothing but my disgust.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 12, 2009, 04:16:19 PM
Would love to have known what was going through everyone else's minds when they saw George & Cindy show up at the Missing Childrens' Outreach.   How awkward.
   ::MonkeyEek::  But never for Cindy and George, I'll give them one thing, and one thing only, they sure have the guts to go places even if nobody wants to look at them, or have nothing to do with them. You would think their embarrassment would be overpowering, but I guess that is a thing they are totally lacking  ::MonkeyRoll::

 I think when Cindy castrated George, she took them as her own............ and fed them well!!   ::MonkeyDevil2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 12, 2009, 04:33:34 PM
Would love to have known what was going through everyone else's minds when they saw George & Cindy show up at the Missing Childrens' Outreach.   How awkward.
   ::MonkeyEek::  But never for Cindy and George, I'll give them one thing, and one thing only, they sure have the guts to go places even if nobody wants to look at them, or have nothing to do with them. You would think their embarrassment would be overpowering, but I guess that is a thing they are totally lacking  ::MonkeyRoll::

 I think when Cindy castrated George, she took them as her own............ and fed them well!!   ::MonkeyDevil2::

 ::MonkeyDevil2::  I think you're right.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 12, 2009, 05:10:10 PM
http://www.bloggernews.net/122196

Caylee Anthony - State Files New Motion On Case
Posted on September 11th, 2009
by Jan Barrett in All News, Op-ed, Society and Culture, crime
Read 37 times.

Well I think the state is finally making a wise call to the wannabe dream team that is representing Casey Anthony. The Florida woman is in jail on charges of first degree murder facing the death penalty for murdering her 2 year old daughter, Caylee Marie Anthony.

Prosecutors have filed a motion Thursday asking the courts to order the defense team to provide documents that they claim is substantial evidence that Caylee’s body was placed in the woods after Casey was put in jail so someone else had to have killed her.

Todd Macaluso told the courts on August 21 “There’s substantial evidence that we’ve discovered… that the body or the remains of Caylee Anthony were placed there after Casey Anthony was locked up in the Orange County Correctional facility.”

The motion is asking for the defense to give them names, addresses and all supporting documentation relative to their claim. Prosecutors says that all of the forensic evidence to date establishes to date that the remains of little Caylee had been deposited there many months prior to December 11, 2008.

The state argues that the defense team has reciprocal discovery obligations. Since the only response they have received was defense witness lists therefore having the state drawing their own conclusions as it states in the motion:

    “The only conclusion this Court can draw from the fact that no additional reciprocal discovery has been filed is (1) the exculpatory evidence does not exist, or (2) the defendant is intentionally violating the rules of discovery.”

The spokeswoman for the defense attorney Jose Baez, Marti Mackenzie, claims that Baez “abides by all the rules and regulations affecting any kind of criminal trial in Florida.”

OK now here is what my thoughts on this are. If, and I stretch the word IF a lot, they have any evidence that could possibly prove that Casey was innocent why would party girl allow them to withhold it until they go to trial? Why not give it to the prosecutors now and if it is good enough to clear her of these charges she could be released now and not keep her there with the tax payers feeding her and putting a roof over her head.

The only conclusion I have on this matter is that of course their so called evidence won’t prove she didn’t do this. Besides even if it could cause a shadow of a doubt that the baby’s remains were put there after Casey was arrested, that doesn’t mean she didn’t kill her. Someone could have put her in those woods where someone would find it and then they could claim exactly what the defense is trying to say now. Maybe this was what Lee Anthony meant at the memorial service when he left his little message in his words for CMA about keeping his promise. Or maybe this was what their code talk was about when he would visit her in jail. I personally think that any one of the Anthony clan would do anything Casey tells them to do including helping her cover up what really happened to her daughter.

Sorry, but there is no doubt in my mind that Casey did this to her daughter. Perhaps it was an accident and she panicked. Maybe she was scared so she decided to cover it up and got her family to go along with her to keep her out of trouble. We all know how Casey got what she wanted around her family. As George told her while visiting her in jail, she is in charge just like she always is.

So even if this started out as an accident they have turned it into a murder case and it is too late now to say she is innocent. They have taken this way too far and carried it out way too long to say it was an accident. Too many innocent people have been hurt from this, all to cover up for one little spoiled brat that is use to having everything her way.

Poor little Caylee is the one that has suffered with her life. This precious child is lost to this world and the person responsible for that should have to pay. I am not a heartless person but I do not feel sorry for Casey Anthony and now I do not feel sorry for her parents because I feel they have turned their backs on little Caylee so they can support their daughter. They know she is guilty but yet they fight to get her off these charges. What are they hoping for? That she will be set free so she can get pregnant again and give them another grandbaby to replace Caylee? I sure hope that will never happen.

God Bless You Caylee Marie Anthony! We all love you and we are waiting for you to get the justice you so rightly deserve.

Jan Barrett

Excellent article!
Thank you Cece.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 12, 2009, 05:19:04 PM
I've been looking around and came across this slideshow that Casey created. Some of the pics we have seen before but she has added her own captions. Too bad the mystery guy with the tattoos isn't in here.   http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68989&page=6
Is anyone a member at WS that can get these images(down below on same page as the slideshow)from georges phone and post them here?I am not a member so I can't even view the images.

http://www.slide.com/r/XputCOLl6j-Wy8hxtCCoQmv25F7QzohT?previous_view=lt_embedded_url
Yikes,that didn't work but thanks anyway SeeMe.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Babybear on September 12, 2009, 05:28:05 PM
Would love to have known what was going through everyone else's minds when they saw George & Cindy show up at the Missing Childrens' Outreach.   How awkward.
   ::MonkeyEek::  But never for Cindy and George, I'll give them one thing, and one thing only, they sure have the guts to go places even if nobody wants to look at them, or have nothing to do with them. You would think their embarrassment would be overpowering, but I guess that is a thing they are totally lacking  ::MonkeyRoll::

 I think when Cindy castrated George, she took them as her own............ and fed them well!!   ::MonkeyDevil2::

I think she had them gold-plated and wears them as earrings.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 12, 2009, 07:01:03 PM
Two posts up *Self-edit*  WESH site states pics believed to be taken on Casey's Motorola phone.

With that, I am out of here.  LOL!  Time to go beddie bye.  Have a good evening and take care!

Hey ya monkeys, first time checking in since yesterday & catching up as I read.  When though, Ricardo & Casey spoke of Caylee hitting the corner of a table at his apartment, if memory serves the week before 6/15 when reportedly.   There are other pics that I agree her eyes are blackened (seems odd for someone so young & health), void & she looks tired very often thru pics.  There are a few other pics that look like she had a bruised eye/cheek.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 12, 2009, 07:15:06 PM
Marinade Dave visits to Sawgrass and Sutton Place apartments. Just a quick view so we all would know what they look like.

September 09, 2009

http://www.youtube.com/v/9bWzJhRys1I&hl=en&fs=1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 12, 2009, 07:27:56 PM
Thanks CECE, it was an interesting article.   ::MonkeyAngel::

 ::CowWave::   ::MonkeyDogWalk::    ::MonkeyDogWalk2::

LOL!
I truly luv them :)
 ::MonkeyDogWalk3::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Brandi on September 12, 2009, 07:33:33 PM
Two posts up *Self-edit*  WESH site states pics believed to be taken on Casey's Motorola phone.

With that, I am out of here.  LOL!  Time to go beddie bye.  Have a good evening and take care!

Hey ya monkeys, first time checking in since yesterday & catching up as I read.  When though, Ricardo & Casey spoke of Caylee hitting the corner of a table at his apartment, if memory serves the week before 6/15 when reportedly.   There are other pics that I agree her eyes are blackened (seems odd for someone so young & health), void & she looks tired very often thru pics.  There are a few other pics that look like she had a bruised eye/cheek.

Good to see you back, Capp. I also feel Caylee looked tired/out of it a bit in some photos.

Could you shoot off an email to me please?
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 12, 2009, 07:58:52 PM
Good Morning Monkeys!!

Morgan & Morgan filed NEW motions to compel D. Casey to appear for deposition and motion for sanction with exhibits
http://www.forthepeople.com/casey-anthony-case.htm
http://www.forthepeople.com/New_Motion_to_Compel.pdf
http://www.forthepeople.com/Exhibit_D.pdf


 ::MonkeyCheer2:: ::MonkeyCheer2::

Now, that's what I'm talking about!  ::MonkeyCheer4::   Something more than  ::MonkeyFootball:: on a Saturday to cheer about Woo Hoo 
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/mslaitte/SPORTS/CHEERsplitJump.gif)
While I was frustrated & fuming over this judge's demeanor and rulings, I had faith that Morgan & Mitnick had what they needed to put them all in their place & would not take it lying down.    In essence, Mitnick let them run their mouth with the Judge ruling only to come back with proof of what a farce the hearing was OUCH!   I recalled the FBI/OCSO interview with Dominic Casey, even wondering how Brad Conway as an attorney for the Anthonys sitting in this interview was not a conflict, Luka included since he represented Lee.  That being said, the dates that were given made it clear when DC worked for whom & there is no "work product" privilege.  It also became clear that the Florida bar was told one thing, Judge Rodrigues another.   For that matter conflicting stories with Judge Strickland as well.  In my absence, I caught wind of an implication that Bozo forged documents & frankly I have been struggling to get caught up & catch everything presently so I may not have all the info on that accusation...on a personal note things are slowing down for me so this is temporary.  An extremely interesting fact is that DC was terminated by Bozo Oct 1 & he went probing & digging in the woods mid-Nov.  DC point blank states that Oct 12th was the last day he spoke to Casey & did no work for her since...hmm? (why, what was that conversation, what prompted his trip to the woods-did she tell him where she dumped her daughter that she murdered)

So, now what is a bias judge to do?   Does he become a bigger fraud against the scales of justice or does he swallow his pride & rule in favor of the evidence presented...I have a feeling Cindy won't be cackling now!

TWO major B slaps to the defense this week...life is sweet, justice will prevail!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 12, 2009, 07:58:52 PM
Back a month or so ago we were talking about Gale St. John being near where Caylee was found and we only had a small clip of her drive by. Here is the video in full. To me, it seems as if they drove a little past Caylee's spot, got out of the car and continued to walk forward away from Caylee.  But then later on, they are stopped, talking about coming back, hiding the car to search again. If you look out the window, there across the street it looks to me as if it is the house and backyard of the kid who was interviewed by the media the day Caylee was found. I'm confused. ANJ, please tell me your theory on this.

http://psychicgalestjohn.com/blinddrive.htm

TUPELO, just my observation, but when the boy across the street went to the fence at his house, and went through the gate to the woods, he had to walk a ways through the woods to get to the tall fence you can see on the north side of Suburban.

You could see clear through the fence to the yard and the house in the video when Gale parked. I am not sure that is is same house where he lived. There are several houses back through the woods on the north side that are in another subvision, so it is probably close by. At any rate, he was standing in the woods and brush when the video was filmed, and not in a cleared area. My feeling he was a little further west.

I hope you don't mind me making a comment.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 12, 2009, 08:00:24 PM
Two posts up *Self-edit*  WESH site states pics believed to be taken on Casey's Motorola phone.

With that, I am out of here.  LOL!  Time to go beddie bye.  Have a good evening and take care!

Hey ya monkeys, first time checking in since yesterday & catching up as I read.  When though, Ricardo & Casey spoke of Caylee hitting the corner of a table at his apartment, if memory serves the week before 6/15 when reportedly.   There are other pics that I agree her eyes are blackened (seems odd for someone so young & health), void & she looks tired very often thru pics.  There are a few other pics that look like she had a bruised eye/cheek.

Good to see you back, Capp. I also feel Caylee looked tired/out of it a bit in some photos.

Could you shoot off an email to me please?
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/my-email.gif)

Tks so much Brandi!   I sure will, on my way to do so now MUAH!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 12, 2009, 08:20:49 PM
Marinade Dave visits to Sawgrass and Sutton Place apartments. Just a quick view so we all would know what they look like.

September 09, 2009

http://www.youtube.com/v/9bWzJhRys1I&hl=en&fs=1

Thank you TUPELO, for both videos posted today.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 12, 2009, 08:23:45 PM
Hey ya Fanny!   Klaas, at your earliest convenience would you be so kind to give Fanny my email addy, TIA


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 12, 2009, 08:43:08 PM
Back a month or so ago we were talking about Gale St. John being near where Caylee was found and we only had a small clip of her drive by. Here is the video in full. To me, it seems as if they drove a little past Caylee's spot, got out of the car and continued to walk forward away from Caylee.  But then later on, they are stopped, talking about coming back, hiding the car to search again. If you look out the window, there across the street it looks to me as if it is the house and backyard of the kid who was interviewed by the media the day Caylee was found. I'm confused. ANJ, please tell me your theory on this.

http://psychicgalestjohn.com/blinddrive.htm

TUPELO, just my observation, but when the boy across the street went to the fence at his house, and went through the gate to the woods, he had to walk a ways through the woods to get to the tall fence you can see on the north side of Suburban.

You could see clear through the fence to the yard and the house in the video when Gale parked. I am not sure that is is same house where he lived. There are several houses back through the woods on the north side that are in another subvision, so it is probably close by. At any rate, he was standing in the woods and brush when the video was filmed, and not in a cleared area. My feeling he was a little further west.

I hope you don't mind me making a comment.
Hey Fanny, I don't mind at all, I welcome all input!!

I was going on my memory from a live feed the day Caylee was found. The reporter was interviewing the young man at the fence of his backyard. The video that Klaas has posted is not the same coverage and how I wish a copy of that first interview was saved. The reporter was on the outside of the fence and the young man was inside his yard, it was raining pretty good at the time. When I saw that house in GSJ's video, it looked familiar to me as the back of his house.  A lot was going on that day, my emotions were all over the place and I surely could be wrong. It wouldn't be the first time!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 12, 2009, 09:00:39 PM
Tks so much Brandi, seriously you da bomb girl!  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Brandi on September 12, 2009, 09:05:52 PM
Tks so much Brandi, seriously you da bomb girl!  ::MonkeyAngel::

You are ever so welcome!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: mamacrazy30 on September 12, 2009, 09:10:25 PM
i haven't really had time to catch up (non-Monkey business) ::MonkeyJnBox::
but are they throwing joy under the bus....if so i have to say they are taking my advice...
many moons ago i had posted HERE...(don't have the time to look) that if there was anyone ripe for bus throwin' under it would be joy...
if this is the case it tells me how desperate they are...
come on bozo...now your reading forums to get a defense?

Waste, Huge Waste ::MonkeyTease:: ::MonkeyViolin:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyJustice::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Desdemona on September 12, 2009, 09:20:17 PM
Hi Monkeys!   :2doh:  Just stopping by to humbly apologize to Fanny.
 
Fanny said:  “CAYLEE sure had a lot of black eyes in her short lifetime. “  [and]  “Yes, there have been many pictures showing Caylee with obvious black eyes, not just dark circles, under them. The bruises would be on different eyes on different occassions. I had many of them on my photobucket, but deleted them because they upset me so much. Maybe someone who has some complete files of her pictures will post them.”

If I'm reading Capp correctly, she too has seen multiple black(ened) eyes... though I'm not sure if either or both also feel(s) that this is representative of Caylee's entire life. 

Capp said:   [snip] ”There are other pics that I agree her eyes are blackened (seems odd for someone so young & health)”[snip]

I defer to them both, and did not intend any offense, by seeming to question the perception or recollection of a fellow Monkey when I said I do not detect a lifetime of "many" black eyes in the Caylee pictures I have seen. IMO, it is an upsetting topic to consider in the first place, as are so many of the subjects we discuss in this tragic case. I usually try to be tactful and careful, but perhaps it's a good idea for me to try a little harder.   Again, I am sorry.

Hugs to my Monkey friends,
Desi

God Bless Our Caylee.               
 ::MonkeyAngel::               
 :smt049 :smt049 :smt049 :smt049 :smt049               


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 12, 2009, 09:41:43 PM
Tks so much Brandi, seriously you da bomb girl!  ::MonkeyAngel::

You are ever so welcome!


pssst...check your box 

Desi, yes I was mentioning that Ive seen very dark circles often on Caylee in pics  as well as a "tired look" almost void in a few actually.  A few pics where she seemed to have bruising at the cheek and/or a blackened eye especially in her 2 forward years from what pictures looked like.   I do recall one incident where Ricardo spoke of Caylee hitting the corner of a table somehow at the apartment...I cant remember it word for word at the moment.  As much as I am from a mediterranean background & am extremely familiar with dark circles under the eye hereditarily, I still find it odd for a toddler to exhibit them so distinctly & young.   I can only attribute many occasions where it was more from frequent crying and/or lack of sleep, could have dietary significance as well.   Then again, I'm not a doctor so I can only go by experience & a lifetime's worth of observation.   Yes, it is a painful consideration - no matter the experience dealing with such matters it doesnt get any easier to cope with it almost nothing hurts the heart more than the abuse of a child...sigh


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Brandi on September 12, 2009, 09:59:28 PM
O/T: (sorry!)

GoldieTX
: I see you in the rafters reading! Check the URL in my sig line. I have a post waiting for you and Harvey!

Again, I am sorry for the O/T post.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 12, 2009, 11:41:32 PM
Hi Monkeys!   :2doh:  Just stopping by to humbly apologize to Fanny.
 
Fanny said:  “CAYLEE sure had a lot of black eyes in her short lifetime. “  [and]  “Yes, there have been many pictures showing Caylee with obvious black eyes, not just dark circles, under them. The bruises would be on different eyes on different occassions. I had many of them on my photobucket, but deleted them because they upset me so much. Maybe someone who has some complete files of her pictures will post them.”

If I'm reading Capp correctly, she too has seen multiple black(ened) eyes... though I'm not sure if either or both also feel(s) that this is representative of Caylee's entire life. 

Capp said:   [snip] ”There are other pics that I agree her eyes are blackened (seems odd for someone so young & health)”[snip]

I defer to them both, and did not intend any offense, by seeming to question the perception or recollection of a fellow Monkey when I said I do not detect a lifetime of "many" black eyes in the Caylee pictures I have seen. IMO, it is an upsetting topic to consider in the first place, as are so many of the subjects we discuss in this tragic case. I usually try to be tactful and careful, but perhaps it's a good idea for me to try a little harder.   Again, I am sorry.

Hugs to my Monkey friends,
Desi

God Bless Our Caylee.               
 ::MonkeyAngel::               
 :smt049 :smt049 :smt049 :smt049 :smt049               


This post makes me very sad to see.  Why?  Because you are the epitome of tactful, fair, informed and respectful poster, at all times.  There are 3126 members here at SM and for the life of me, I do not know why a few make a valuable poster like you feel as if you need to apologize.  But, I do understand.  I had wanted a month or so ago to make a point about Gail St. John but the majority (which is really only a few posters who take it upon themselves to answer nearly every post) ripped me up, so I still have not written that post and if I feel as I am feeling right now, may never write it. 
I saw where you posted something to the effect of the forum not feeling the same as it once was and thus not as fun.  I see why you wrote that.  I have felt uncomfortable in some of the threads to lately.  The camaraderie and sense of teamwork have given way to the agenda of a few.
I have made some wonderful friends here, but I find my best memories are the times I spend in musings.  I am thinking of yielding to the leaders here or defer to them as you called it and take a break and maybe only post in musings, if at all.  Tupelo asking me today for that post, stirred up a lot of hurt and then when I saw your post - someone who is the most kind hearted, diplomatic poster I have ever seen in a forum, my heart just broke.  Please - never apologize for the open minded, brilliant, and open spirit that comes across in your posts.  You, do not own this.  Best, NewsJunkie


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 12, 2009, 11:59:05 PM
Hi Monkeys!   :2doh:  Just stopping by to humbly apologize to Fanny.
 
Fanny said:  “CAYLEE sure had a lot of black eyes in her short lifetime. “  [and]  “Yes, there have been many pictures showing Caylee with obvious black eyes, not just dark circles, under them. The bruises would be on different eyes on different occassions. I had many of them on my photobucket, but deleted them because they upset me so much. Maybe someone who has some complete files of her pictures will post them.”

If I'm reading Capp correctly, she too has seen multiple black(ened) eyes... though I'm not sure if either or both also feel(s) that this is representative of Caylee's entire life. 

Capp said:   [snip] ”There are other pics that I agree her eyes are blackened (seems odd for someone so young & health)”[snip]

I defer to them both, and did not intend any offense, by seeming to question the perception or recollection of a fellow Monkey when I said I do not detect a lifetime of "many" black eyes in the Caylee pictures I have seen. IMO, it is an upsetting topic to consider in the first place, as are so many of the subjects we discuss in this tragic case. I usually try to be tactful and careful, but perhaps it's a good idea for me to try a little harder.   Again, I am sorry.

Hugs to my Monkey friends,
Desi

God Bless Our Caylee.               
 ::MonkeyAngel::               
 :smt049 :smt049 :smt049 :smt049 :smt049               


This post makes me very sad to see.  Why?  Because you are the epitome of tactful, fair, informed and respectful poster, at all times.  There are 3126 members here at SM and for the life of me, I do not know why a few make a valuable poster like you feel as if you need to apologize.  But, I do understand.  I had wanted a month or so ago to make a point about Gail St. John but the majority (which is really only a few posters who take it upon themselves to answer nearly every post) ripped me up, so I still have not written that post and if I feel as I am feeling right now, may never write it. 
I saw where you posted something to the effect of the forum not feeling the same as it once was and thus not as fun.  I see why you wrote that.  I have felt uncomfortable in some of the threads to lately.  The camaraderie and sense of teamwork have given way to the agenda of a few.
I have made some wonderful friends here, but I find my best memories are the times I spend in musings.  I am thinking of yielding to the leaders here or defer to them as you called it and take a break and maybe only post in musings, if at all.  Tupelo asking me today for that post, stirred up a lot of hurt and then when I saw your post - someone who is the most kind hearted, diplomatic poster I have ever seen in a forum, my heart just broke.  Please - never apologize for the open minded, brilliant, and open spirit that comes across in your posts.  You, do not own this.  Best, NewsJunkie

ANJM, I wholeheartedly agree!  ::MonkeyAngel::

And I for one, am very interested in your point on Gale St. John, when you are ready, of course!  ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 13, 2009, 12:29:15 AM
Hi Monkeys!   :2doh:  Just stopping by to humbly apologize to Fanny.
 
Fanny said:  “CAYLEE sure had a lot of black eyes in her short lifetime. “  [and]  “Yes, there have been many pictures showing Caylee with obvious black eyes, not just dark circles, under them. The bruises would be on different eyes on different occassions. I had many of them on my photobucket, but deleted them because they upset me so much. Maybe someone who has some complete files of her pictures will post them.”

If I'm reading Capp correctly, she too has seen multiple black(ened) eyes... though I'm not sure if either or both also feel(s) that this is representative of Caylee's entire life. 

Capp said:   [snip] ”There are other pics that I agree her eyes are blackened (seems odd for someone so young & health)”[snip]

I defer to them both, and did not intend any offense, by seeming to question the perception or recollection of a fellow Monkey when I said I do not detect a lifetime of "many" black eyes in the Caylee pictures I have seen. IMO, it is an upsetting topic to consider in the first place, as are so many of the subjects we discuss in this tragic case. I usually try to be tactful and careful, but perhaps it's a good idea for me to try a little harder.   Again, I am sorry.

Hugs to my Monkey friends,
Desi

God Bless Our Caylee.               
 ::MonkeyAngel::               
 :smt049 :smt049 :smt049 :smt049 :smt049               


Oh DESI, there was absolutely no reason to feel you had to apologize to me. You have nothing to aplogize for, and I am sorry you felt like you did.  ::MonkeyAngel::

There was a collage of about three pictures posted by one of the monkeys that showed three seperate pictures, obviously taken at three seperate times, showing Caylee with bruises under her eyes on different eyes. It upset me, and other monkeys that day to see those and to think of what it meant. These were not dark circles, but obviously clear bruises or marks. We wondered that day if they had been caused by the heavy ring (shamrock?) Casey wore on her middle finger, as the bruises were the same size.

I had those photos saved to my photobucket, but after my meltdown, I deleted them all. PROTECTHELITTLEBABIES posted a link to a large photobucket about that time with many pictures of Caylee I had never seen. In going through those, I found quite a few others that show similar marks on even different times. I delete the link to that photobucket, so I no longer have that one either. They were very upsetting to me and I just couldn't figure out how someone living with her could not have question the numerous bruises in almost the same places. This is why it is still so vivid in my mind.

I meant no offense to you or anyone else to mention them again. There were several pictures that were on the last document release that were also upsetting to me. She looked very sad and sick, and there were a couple that I was afraid I had seen something wrong. I have tried not to harp on it, but other monkeys have brought up the same thing I felt.

You had nothing to apologize for, and I hope I have explained myself. I admire you greatly, and I always have.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Fanny Mae on September 13, 2009, 12:53:42 AM
Back a month or so ago we were talking about Gale St. John being near where Caylee was found and we only had a small clip of her drive by. Here is the video in full. To me, it seems as if they drove a little past Caylee's spot, got out of the car and continued to walk forward away from Caylee.  But then later on, they are stopped, talking about coming back, hiding the car to search again. If you look out the window, there across the street it looks to me as if it is the house and backyard of the kid who was interviewed by the media the day Caylee was found. I'm confused. ANJ, please tell me your theory on this.

http://psychicgalestjohn.com/blinddrive.htm

TUPELO, just my observation, but when the boy across the street went to the fence at his house, and went through the gate to the woods, he had to walk a ways through the woods to get to the tall fence you can see on the north side of Suburban.

You could see clear through the fence to the yard and the house in the video when Gale parked. I am not sure that is is same house where he lived. There are several houses back through the woods on the north side that are in another subvision, so it is probably close by. At any rate, he was standing in the woods and brush when the video was filmed, and not in a cleared area. My feeling he was a little further west.

I hope you don't mind me making a comment.
Hey Fanny, I don't mind at all, I welcome all input!!

I was going on my memory from a live feed the day Caylee was found. The reporter was interviewing the young man at the fence of his backyard. The video that Klaas has posted is not the same coverage and how I wish a copy of that first interview was saved. The reporter was on the outside of the fence and the young man was inside his yard, it was raining pretty good at the time. When I saw that house in GSJ's video, it looked familiar to me as the back of his house.  A lot was going on that day, my emotions were all over the place and I surely could be wrong. It wouldn't be the first time!

And I also could be wrong. I only remember seeing the video KLAAS reposted that day. Your recollection may be much better than mine, as it was a very emotional time. I may have seen the video you are referring to and it got crowded out in my memory bank in all the rest that has transpired. I did not mean to offend anyone, by responding to your video you posted today of Gale. I had not seen the longer version before, and I had an opinion and thought it was ok to state it.

Was it you that posted the three pictures a month or so ago that show the marks/bruises under Caylee's eyes we thought could have come from Casey's heavy ring she wore on her middle finger? I don't have them anymore. TYIA.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: klaasend on September 13, 2009, 01:20:52 AM
The video I posted I saved from the original that was posted at the time.  I don't know if there was more than one video posted at the time but I copied it the day it was available online. Also, the video I posted is exactly how I remember the video to be, nothing missing.  As I have said..I suppose there could be another video of this guy that I missed.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/th_4ED71613_WBBH_13122008094244140782.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/?action=view&current=4ED71613_WBBH_13122008094244140782.flv)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BluesyGram on September 13, 2009, 02:54:08 AM
The video I posted I saved from the original that was posted at the time.  I don't know if there was more than one video posted at the time but I copied it the day it was available online. Also, the video I posted is exactly how I remember the video to be, nothing missing.  As I have said..I suppose there could be another video of this guy that I missed.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/th_4ED71613_WBBH_13122008094244140782.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub7/?action=view&current=4ED71613_WBBH_13122008094244140782.flv)


In the beginning of this video report...this reporter says..this guy himself has a video. Wonder if that is what everyone is remembering?  Seems like I do remember seeing a video of a kid (showing my age) talking.   Bet LE/FBI took that video from the guy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 13, 2009, 03:33:24 AM
Hi Monkeys!   :2doh:  Just stopping by to humbly apologize to Fanny.
 
Fanny said:  “CAYLEE sure had a lot of black eyes in her short lifetime. “  [and]  “Yes, there have been many pictures showing Caylee with obvious black eyes, not just dark circles, under them. The bruises would be on different eyes on different occassions. I had many of them on my photobucket, but deleted them because they upset me so much. Maybe someone who has some complete files of her pictures will post them.”

If I'm reading Capp correctly, she too has seen multiple black(ened) eyes... though I'm not sure if either or both also feel(s) that this is representative of Caylee's entire life. 

Capp said:   [snip] ”There are other pics that I agree her eyes are blackened (seems odd for someone so young & health)”[snip]

I defer to them both, and did not intend any offense, by seeming to question the perception or recollection of a fellow Monkey when I said I do not detect a lifetime of "many" black eyes in the Caylee pictures I have seen. IMO, it is an upsetting topic to consider in the first place, as are so many of the subjects we discuss in this tragic case. I usually try to be tactful and careful, but perhaps it's a good idea for me to try a little harder.   Again, I am sorry.

Hugs to my Monkey friends,
Desi

God Bless Our Caylee.               
 ::MonkeyAngel::               
 :smt049 :smt049 :smt049 :smt049 :smt049               


This post makes me very sad to see.  Why?  Because you are the epitome of tactful, fair, informed and respectful poster, at all times.  There are 3126 members here at SM and for the life of me, I do not know why a few make a valuable poster like you feel as if you need to apologize.  But, I do understand.  I had wanted a month or so ago to make a point about Gail St. John but the majority (which is really only a few posters who take it upon themselves to answer nearly every post) ripped me up, so I still have not written that post and if I feel as I am feeling right now, may never write it. 
I saw where you posted something to the effect of the forum not feeling the same as it once was and thus not as fun.  I see why you wrote that.  I have felt uncomfortable in some of the threads to lately.  The camaraderie and sense of teamwork have given way to the agenda of a few.
I have made some wonderful friends here, but I find my best memories are the times I spend in musings.  I am thinking of yielding to the leaders here or defer to them as you called it and take a break and maybe only post in musings, if at all.  Tupelo asking me today for that post, stirred up a lot of hurt and then when I saw your post - someone who is the most kind hearted, diplomatic poster I have ever seen in a forum, my heart just broke.  Please - never apologize for the open minded, brilliant, and open spirit that comes across in your posts.  You, do not own this.  Best, NewsJunkie

Hang on a second, please I do not wish to be pulled into this even in appearance as "a few" as there is nothing I said or directed toward Desi personally to make her feel badly or wrong about her opinion/view nor was I around a month ago in reference to any new discussion regarding Gail St John.  I needed to clarify that because my name was mentioned above.   Desi knows I and so many of us (i.e. Fanny) that respect her views & appreciate her input to SM very sincerely as with all our friends here.    Its also okay to have a difference of opinion without getting personally offended or developing angst, of course with the exception of flat out unacceptable behavior towards another member.  Mind you I have been mostly absent since my hospitalization/recovery but as I was catching up I didnt come across constant posts making members feel uncomfortable or hurt other than those discussing how they perceive an issue or comment on a personal level.    With all due respect, may I kindly request consideration be made by ALL of us from this point on not post personal issues, grievances or spats on our forum, especially case threads.   The more we have to comment publicly, the more members become involved and/or feel uncomfortable, even if its just witnessing an unpleasant exchange/dispute.  As of this moment & practicing what I am now respectfully suggesting for administrative consideration, it might be best if it became policy to discuss these type of situations privately via email member-to-member as cordial adults and/or amongst admins if their input becomes necessary.   Thanks in advance for everyone's consideration & mutual respect.  Have a blessed Sunday!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 13, 2009, 07:35:38 AM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/09/casey-anthonys-private-eye-caught-giving-court-false-information/
Casey Anthony’s Private Eye “Caught” Giving Court False Information
Sunday, September 13, 2009
By Express
1-znMorgan & Morgan , a leading personal injury law firm representing Zenaida Gonzalez,  EXPOSES THE LIES of Casey Anthony’s Private Detective.

A NEW motion has just been filed with all the details…. Read the motion below.

Previously at the September 9, 2009 court hearing, Zenaida Gonzalez’s attorneys asked  the judge to hold Private Detective, Dominic Casey,  in contempt because he did not show up to his deposition.

In a very odd move, the judge allowed Dominic Casey to take the stand and testify before he made a ruling.  Dominic Casey’s  attorney argued that he was hired by the Anthony family and Jose Baez, so he has privileged information and did not have to testify.  One problem, this is FALSE and Morgan & Morgan has the documents/evidence to prove it. See the motion below.

Zenaida Gonzalez’s attorneys have called Dominc Casey on his game of deception.  Morgan & Morgan filed a  NEW motion to compel Dominic Casey to be deposed.  The motion also  asks  the court to order Domic Casey to pay for attorneys fee’s and cost.
Motion....  http://www.forthepeople.com/New_Motion_to_Compel.pdf


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 13, 2009, 07:39:48 AM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 13, 2009, 09:04:27 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.

I would like to say that I have respect for every poster here. I apologize for bringing up issues, because of my own curiosity, that have caused hurt feelings for others. That was never my intention to do so. I'm so sorry.  :smt109


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: can on September 13, 2009, 09:51:18 AM
Good morning Trim!  Thanks for the info on Morgans' motion.  ::MonkeyCheer3::  and for your always cheery good morning visual.

Good morning Tupelohoney!   I always find your posts so information.  Ty.

Good morning all good Monkeys!

P E A C E   ::MonkeyHeart::

 



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: can on September 13, 2009, 09:54:16 AM
Good morning Trim!  Thanks for the info on Morgans' motion.  ::MonkeyCheer3::  and for your always cheery good morning visual.

Good morning Tupelohoney!   I always find your posts so information.  Ty.

Good morning all good Monkeys!

P E A C E   ::MonkeyHeart::

 


self edit - oops information sb informative.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: A_News_Junkie_Monkey on September 13, 2009, 10:16:05 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.

I would like to say that I have respect for every poster here. I apologize for bringing up issues, because of my own curiosity, that have caused hurt feelings for others. That was never my intention to do so. I'm so sorry.  :smt109

Tupelo,
Your bringing it up, was in no way the problem for me.  The problem for me was in the way I was treated the last time it was brought up.  You do not own my angst. I adore your true, focused passion for the true intent of the thread.  (BTW- to capp, I never mentioned you in this issue, so I am baffled why you felt the need to defend yourself on this issue.)

Capp- I am not going to quote Desi post and my reply to her and general angst with atmosphere, but you highlighted my words "a few".... all I can say, is if you felt that "a few" included you, or saw yourself as having participated in the feelings I expressed then I hope you will sit and reflect what you own and what others own and what any member can do to keep the integrity of the forum and the TEAM.
I am sure that Klaas is quite capable of setting administrative policy, so I am not sure why you feel the need to give her advice here in the Caylee thread. 
I will be a rafter rider until such time as I feel my input adds to the discussion or I decide that musings is the best place for me, etc.  My email is in my profile and always has been, so if you have an issue with me, feel free to write. 
 ::MonkeyBike:: ::MonkeyBike::  Ride on Rafter Riders United! LOL 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 10:21:37 AM
Good Morning, Monkeys!  ::MonkeyDance::


Woo Hoo for the motion, and thanks for the article and link Trimm!!   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 13, 2009, 10:29:18 AM
Good Morning Monkeys.

I would like to say that I have respect for every poster here. I apologize for bringing up issues, because of my own curiosity, that have caused hurt feelings for others. That was never my intention to do so. I'm so sorry.  :smt109

Tupelo,
Your bringing it up, was in no way the problem for me.  The problem for me was in the way I was treated the last time it was brought up.  You do not own my angst. I adore your true, focused passion for the true intent of the thread.  (BTW- to capp, I never mentioned you in this issue, so I am baffled why you felt the need to defend yourself on this issue.)

Capp- I am not going to quote Desi post and my reply to her and general angst with atmosphere, but you highlighted my words "a few".... all I can say, is if you felt that "a few" included you, or saw yourself as having participated in the feelings I expressed then I hope you will sit and reflect what you own and what others own and what any member can do to keep the integrity of the forum and the TEAM.
I am sure that Klaas is quite capable of setting administrative policy, so I am not sure why you feel the need to give her advice here in the Caylee thread. 
I will be a rafter rider until such time as I feel my input adds to the discussion or I decide that musings is the best place for me, etc.  My email is in my profile and always has been, so if you have an issue with me, feel free to write. 
 ::MonkeyBike:: ::MonkeyBike::  Ride on Rafter Riders United! LOL 
ANJM please don't sit in the rafters  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I want to hear all about Gail StJohn, I'm interested. Glad you and Miss Crystol are doing fine  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 13, 2009, 10:34:17 AM
I'm no expert on anything, and maybe some of the dark marks around Caylee's eyes were from lack of sleep or abuse, I don't know. But when I look at pictures of my daughters when they were little I have pics where there are dark circles, they would get them from sickness and allergies. My two girls have a very white complexion like Caylee and it is more noticeable.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 10:57:25 AM
TUPLEO, YOU'VE DONE NOTHING TO BE SORRY FOR.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

ANJ, GET BACK HERE. YOU CAN'T RAFTER SIT. YOU'LL LOOSE YOUR FOOTING ON ONE OF THOSE HOPS AND FALL!  ::MonkeyWink::

DESI, YOU'VE DONE NOTHING TO BE SORRY FOR.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

FANNY, IT'S OK TO DISCUSS ANYTHING THAT'S CASE RELATED!  ::MonkeyWink::

CAPP, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS AND UNDERSTANDING REGARDING THE AVI.  ::MonkeyWink::

PLEASE, LET'S MOVE ON WITH OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD FROM HERE. THANKS!




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 11:02:53 AM
I'm no expert on anything, and maybe some of the dark marks around Caylee's eyes were from lack of sleep or abuse, I don't know. But when I look at pictures of my daughters when they were little I have pics where there are dark circles, they would get them from sickness and allergies. My two girls have a very white complexion like Caylee and it is more noticeable.

Some kids do seem to have those circles, NRCG, and they are present in many of Caylee's photos. My own son always had a collection of bruises, but he was really active. It's hard to make a definite determination of the source unless there's a hand or grip pattern to them.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 13, 2009, 11:20:57 AM
I'm no expert on anything, and maybe some of the dark marks around Caylee's eyes were from lack of sleep or abuse, I don't know. But when I look at pictures of my daughters when they were little I have pics where there are dark circles, they would get them from sickness and allergies. My two girls have a very white complexion like Caylee and it is more noticeable.

Some kids do seem to have those circles, NRCG, and they are present in many of Caylee's photos. My own son always had a collection of bruises, but he was really active. It's hard to make a definite determination of the source unless there's a hand or grip pattern to them.
I agree, even when I was a kid I would get a lot of bruises, I was very active also, and I'm prone to bruising, maybe Caylee was also  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: darla on September 13, 2009, 11:49:08 AM
Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!

I have 2 grandkids who keep circles under their eyes, and another that on any given day has at least 5 or 6 bruises on him. He is 10 yrs old and has more scars on him than most 50 yr olds. I know that he has had stitches at least 5 times . He is rambunctious in the extreme and also has MD and falls multiple times a day. But if a stranger were to see him ,they would swear he has been abused all of his life. Some kids just bruise easier than others. What strikes me the most with Caylee's pictures in the last months of her precious life, is how incredibly sad she looked in all of them. There was no light in her lil eyes at all. The sparkle was gone . I don't know any other way to describe it .


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 11:56:52 AM
Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!

I have 2 grandkids who keep circles under their eyes, and another that on any given day has at least 5 or 6 bruises on him. He is 10 yrs old and has more scars on him than most 50 yr olds. I know that he has had stitches at least 5 times . He is rambunctious in the extreme and also has MD and falls multiple times a day. But if a stranger were to see him ,they would swear he has been abused all of his life. Some kids just bruise easier than others. What strikes me the most with Caylee's pictures in the last months of her precious life, is how incredibly sad she looked in all of them. There was no light in her lil eyes at all. The sparkle was gone . I don't know any other way to describe it .

Hi darla! Caylee's expressions strikes me as sad, too. It's not there so much in the younger photos, but I agree, it's haunting in many of the later ones.  I've often wondered if Casey became at least emotionally abusive toward Caylee as Caylee became more verbal. Caylee being able to repeat things and expose things would have been a problem for Casey, IMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: klaasend on September 13, 2009, 11:59:04 AM
Not defending Casey by any means, but my son had "allergic shiners" as a child.  He was allergic to everything! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 13, 2009, 12:02:15 PM
I've seen sev pics of Caylee with what looks like bruises or black eyes, and wondered about them.  Lack of sleep or incorrect diet can make eyes look like that, in some children.  It's hard to know, by the pics alone. 

When my oldest was that young, his eyes looked like that at times.  Most often later in the day after he had been outside romping and playing.  I thought maybe it was because he was tired.  When it continued, and became more frequent, despite my ensuring he was getting enough sleep and eating well, as well as taking vits etc, I asked the doc about it.  After a reg exam was told he was healthy, to take him to the eye doc, maybe his eyes were strained and he needed glasses. 

Turns out, the eye doc said it was allergies.  He said that before even testing his eyes.  Called em "allergy shiners".  Still tested his eyes tho, which came out fine. 

Back to the other doc.  Now testing for allergies.  Turns out he was highly allergic to nearly everything, but especially milk!  Allergic to milk, corn, wheat, soy, eggs.  All grasses, trees, dust, mites......... and so on.  Food elimination diet began.  Ugh.  And he had to have a weekly allergy shot.  But after awhile, the shadows under his eyes soon went away, and hasn't had em since. 

Maybe, who knows, maybe this is what was going on with Caylee.  Have heard reported that she was healthy etc.  But still..... my son's doc said he was healthy too.  It wasn't until the need for allergy tests came about that we discovered what was up.  So if they hadn't had Caylee actually tested, they likely wouldn't know about any possible allergies, and so, think she was perfectly healthy.  Sometimes these things aren't found out until the child is bet 3 and school-age.  Just saying....

The shadows under her eyes have concerned me.  Also a concern are the expressions that Caylee had.  As others have said, she had the eyes of an 'old soul'.  As in wise beyond her years, perhaps having experienced much at such an early age.  She looks 'haunted' in many of her pics.  So much so, that it breaks my heart in seeing some of those pics.  Sigh. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 13, 2009, 12:05:11 PM
Darla, you summed it up so well regarding how Caylee looked in most of her last pictures.

"The sparkle was gone".

 ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 13, 2009, 12:09:06 PM
Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!

I have 2 grandkids who keep circles under their eyes, and another that on any given day has at least 5 or 6 bruises on him. He is 10 yrs old and has more scars on him than most 50 yr olds. I know that he has had stitches at least 5 times . He is rambunctious in the extreme and also has MD and falls multiple times a day. But if a stranger were to see him ,they would swear he has been abused all of his life. Some kids just bruise easier than others. What strikes me the most with Caylee's pictures in the last months of her precious life, is how incredibly sad she looked in all of them. There was no light in her lil eyes at all. The sparkle was gone . I don't know any other way to describe it .

Hi darla! Caylee's expressions strikes me as sad, too. It's not there so much in the younger photos, but I agree, it's haunting in many of the later ones.  I've often wondered if Casey became at least emotionally abusive toward Caylee as Caylee became more verbal. Caylee being able to repeat things and expose things would have been a problem for Casey, IMO.

Those photos haunt me.I agree in the later photos her sparkle was gone.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 13, 2009, 12:09:19 PM
Hope everyone is enjoying their weekend.  To add a little levity, here is an older youtube posted by justfoolinaround2:

http://www.youtube.com/v/_KDm7Kes_DQ&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x2b405b&color2=0x6b8ab6&border=1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: trimmonthelake on September 13, 2009, 12:10:13 PM
Not defending Casey by any means, but my son had "allergic shiners" as a child.  He was allergic to everything! 

I still get them,as does my little grandson.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 12:12:16 PM
Hi Monkeys!   :2doh:  Just stopping by to humbly apologize to Fanny.
 
Fanny said:  “CAYLEE sure had a lot of black eyes in her short lifetime. “  [and]  “Yes, there have been many pictures showing Caylee with obvious black eyes, not just dark circles, under them. The bruises would be on different eyes on different occasions. I had many of them on my photobucket, but deleted them because they upset me so much. Maybe someone who has some complete files of her pictures will post them.”

If I'm reading Capp correctly, she too has seen multiple black(ened) eyes... though I'm not sure if either or both also feel(s) that this is representative of Caylee's entire life. 

Capp said:   [snip] ”There are other pics that I agree her eyes are blackened (seems odd for someone so young & health)”[snip]

I defer to them both, and did not intend any offense, by seeming to question the perception or recollection of a fellow Monkey when I said I do not detect a lifetime of "many" black eyes in the Caylee pictures I have seen. IMO, it is an upsetting topic to consider in the first place, as are so many of the subjects we discuss in this tragic case. I usually try to be tactful and careful, but perhaps it's a good idea for me to try a little harder.   Again, I am sorry.

Hugs to my Monkey friends,
Desi

Good Morning Monks..old and new.  This post really saddens me! Desi, you are always tactful and careful and respectful........

Desi, I agree with you! I have not seen a lifetime of black eyes on Caylee. I have asked over and over that when people say/post something when it is their OPINION or PERCEPTION, they state that's what it is.  I am not a MOD and I realize I have no authority to ask that.....but I am a long time member of SM and I am affected when I see this going on..so often I see poster say something as FACT when in fact it isn't a FACT, merely that poster's OPINION OR PERCEPTION.

JMO....kc, dragged Caylee around all hours of the day and night. WE KNOW that from statements of  kc's friends.  Caylee might surely have suffered AT TIMES from being TIRED. We have no proof, not even statements from friends, that Caylee was abused in any way.  In fact, just the opposite! Some friend, can't remember who at the moment and it's not important,  said kc was perhaps, at times, overly protective. Little kids fall and get bruised and yes, they get black eyes.  I have had dark circles under my eyes ALL MY LIFE. Thank goodness for concealer!! It seems to be the OPINION of some posters that Caylee had lots of black eyes but instead saying it is their opinion, they state it as fact.  SHOW ME PROOF!!!  The pictures that we interpret differently is not proof.

I am not picking on anyone...but we all need to stop and think before we post....many people come to SM looking for information.  Let's keep SM a place where people can come and get ACCURATE INFORMATION!  When any of us have an opinion....let's state it as an OPINION!  Let's keep it about Caylee and not about anyone's EGO to be looked at as an expert on anything...except our expert desire for justice for Caylee. Please let's all leave our ego's out of SM's individual threads. If anyone needs to be 'ego stroked'...please go to Musings!!  Or start your own thread about what you are an expert on. For the record, I am not an expert on anything. But like everyone, I have opinions. I wish we all had more facts. We have many posters, many opinions and many personalities. There is a place for all of us here. Let's ALL remember why we are here.

It saddens me when any poster feels they have to go to the rafters, or worse, stop posting. Caylee needs all of us.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 12:16:59 PM
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/09/casey-anthonys-private-eye-caught-giving-court-false-information/
Casey Anthony’s Private Eye “Caught” Giving Court False Information
Sunday, September 13, 2009
By Express
1-znMorgan & Morgan , a leading personal injury law firm representing Zenaida Gonzalez,  EXPOSES THE LIES of Casey Anthony’s Private Detective.

A NEW motion has just been filed with all the details…. Read the motion below.

Previously at the September 9, 2009 court hearing, Zenaida Gonzalez’s attorneys asked  the judge to hold Private Detective, Dominic Casey,  in contempt because he did not show up to his deposition.

In a very odd move, the judge allowed Dominic Casey to take the stand and testify before he made a ruling.  Dominic Casey’s  attorney argued that he was hired by the Anthony family and Jose Baez, so he has privileged information and did not have to testify.  One problem, this is FALSE and Morgan & Morgan has the documents/evidence to prove it. See the motion below.

Zenaida Gonzalez’s attorneys have called Dominc Casey on his game of deception.  Morgan & Morgan filed a  NEW motion to compel Dominic Casey to be deposed.  The motion also  asks  the court to order Domic Casey to pay for attorneys fee’s and cost.
Motion....  http://www.forthepeople.com/New_Motion_to_Compel.pdf

hi trim...thanks for this post...I love this statement!!

 'One problem, this is FALSE and Morgan & Morgan has the documents/evidence to prove it.'

Makes me HAPPY! HAPPY! HAPPY!! ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 12:19:35 PM
Good Morning Monkeys.

I would like to say that I have respect for every poster here. I apologize for bringing up issues, because of my own curiosity, that have caused hurt feelings for others. That was never my intention to do so. I'm so sorry.  :smt109

tupelo......you have nothing to apologize for...I love your posts, your curiosity, your logic...you make me think!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 12:21:40 PM
Good Morning Monkeys.

I would like to say that I have respect for every poster here. I apologize for bringing up issues, because of my own curiosity, that have caused hurt feelings for others. That was never my intention to do so. I'm so sorry.  :smt109

Tupelo,
Your bringing it up, was in no way the problem for me.  The problem for me was in the way I was treated the last time it was brought up.  You do not own my angst. I adore your true, focused passion for the true intent of the thread.  (BTW- to capp, I never mentioned you in this issue, so I am baffled why you felt the need to defend yourself on this issue.)

Capp- I am not going to quote Desi post and my reply to her and general angst with atmosphere, but you highlighted my words "a few".... all I can say, is if you felt that "a few" included you, or saw yourself as having participated in the feelings I expressed then I hope you will sit and reflect what you own and what others own and what any member can do to keep the integrity of the forum and the TEAM.
I am sure that Klaas is quite capable of setting administrative policy, so I am not sure why you feel the need to give her advice here in the Caylee thread. 
I will be a rafter rider until such time as I feel my input adds to the discussion or I decide that musings is the best place for me, etc.  My email is in my profile and always has been, so if you have an issue with me, feel free to write. 
 ::MonkeyBike:: ::MonkeyBike::  Ride on Rafter Riders United! LOL 

Get your Monkey Butt down here and talk to me about Gale St. John


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: darla on September 13, 2009, 12:22:12 PM
From a couple of the videos we have seen, Casey didn't talk to Caylee, just had a camera in her face. A child wants interaction and that is something I didn't see in the videos. That is mental abuse and is as bad as physical abuse. My heart just aches for what that precious baby lived in. To me it is like she was all alone in a room full of people. Does that make sense to anyone?



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 12:23:37 PM
I'm no expert on anything, and maybe some of the dark marks around Caylee's eyes were from lack of sleep or abuse, I don't know. But when I look at pictures of my daughters when they were little I have pics where there are dark circles, they would get them from sickness and allergies. My two girls have a very white complexion like Caylee and it is more noticeable.


nrco...I am a fair skinned red head and I have had dark circles all my life.....especially noticeable when I am tired.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 12:24:05 PM
Hi Wyks, cece, darla and Klaas!  ::MonkeyDance::

I distinctly remember thinking as I was taking my four year old to the ER for stitches, that he looked abused! My neighbor was with me; the accident happened at her house, but I swear, he was just so full of himself! She kept apologizing and saying, "But, I was right there, I was watching him closely!" I finally did a recount of the most recent "boo-boo's" while I had been "right there" too and she felt better! She was ready to close the trunk from getting groceries out, and at the last second, he reached in and she closed it on his head..........  ::MonkeyNoNo:: BUT, a couple of weeks earlier, he had fallen out of the grocery cart because he saw something he wanted on the bottom shelf while I was standing RIGHT THERE reading a label! He just thought he could do anything physically and was scared of NOTHING! He grew up to be a football player, and I stopped at one child.........   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Caylee seemed to be an active child, so I'm not sure we'll ever know if she was just one of those kids, or if there was some physical abuse. I do believe she was emotionally abused.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 12:25:43 PM
Hi Sunny and Trimm! You snuck in on me while I was posting, but I didn't want to leave you out!!   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 12:25:54 PM
Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!

I have 2 grandkids who keep circles under their eyes, and another that on any given day has at least 5 or 6 bruises on him. He is 10 yrs old and has more scars on him than most 50 yr olds. I know that he has had stitches at least 5 times . He is rambunctious in the extreme and also has MD and falls multiple times a day. But if a stranger were to see him ,they would swear he has been abused all of his life. Some kids just bruise easier than others. What strikes me the most with Caylee's pictures in the last months of her precious life, is how incredibly sad she looked in all of them. There was no light in her lil eyes at all. The sparkle was gone . I don't know any other way to describe it .

Hi Darla.....I so agree with your statement that there was no light, no sparkle in Caylee's eyes in some of the later pictures we saw of her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 12:29:13 PM
I've seen sev pics of Caylee with what looks like bruises or black eyes, and wondered about them.  Lack of sleep or incorrect diet can make eyes look like that, in some children.  It's hard to know, by the pics alone. 

When my oldest was that young, his eyes looked like that at times.  Most often later in the day after he had been outside romping and playing.  I thought maybe it was because he was tired.  When it continued, and became more frequent, despite my ensuring he was getting enough sleep and eating well, as well as taking vits etc, I asked the doc about it.  After a reg exam was told he was healthy, to take him to the eye doc, maybe his eyes were strained and he needed glasses. 

Turns out, the eye doc said it was allergies.  He said that before even testing his eyes.  Called em "allergy shiners".  Still tested his eyes tho, which came out fine. 

Back to the other doc.  Now testing for allergies.  Turns out he was highly allergic to nearly everything, but especially milk!  Allergic to milk, corn, wheat, soy, eggs.  All grasses, trees, dust, mites......... and so on.  Food elimination diet began.  Ugh.  And he had to have a weekly allergy shot.  But after awhile, the shadows under his eyes soon went away, and hasn't had em since. 

Maybe, who knows, maybe this is what was going on with Caylee.  Have heard reported that she was healthy etc.  But still..... my son's doc said he was healthy too.  It wasn't until the need for allergy tests came about that we discovered what was up.  So if they hadn't had Caylee actually tested, they likely wouldn't know about any possible allergies, and so, think she was perfectly healthy.  Sometimes these things aren't found out until the child is bet 3 and school-age.  Just saying....

The shadows under her eyes have concerned me.  Also a concern are the expressions that Caylee had.  As others have said, she had the eyes of an 'old soul'.  As in wise beyond her years, perhaps having experienced much at such an early age.  She looks 'haunted' in many of her pics.  So much so, that it breaks my heart in seeing some of those pics.  Sigh. 


Hi wyks....Klaas mentioned allergy shiners and now you mention it as well. First time I have heard this term.  I have terrible allergies....mold, ragweed, pollen....etc....mostly outdoor allergies.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 13, 2009, 12:32:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/OS648U0xTI0&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x2b405b&color2=0x6b8ab6&border=1


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 12:38:06 PM
Hi Sunny and Trimm! You snuck in on me while I was posting, but I didn't want to leave you out!!   ::MonkeyWink::

Hey CBB...my bottom lip was out cause I thought you missed me!   ::MonkeyJnBox::

I co-hosted a swimming birthday party yesterday with 20, 5, 6, 7 and 8 yo's in attendance....yes,    I am nuts!  LOL...  2 little boys had black eyes, one little girl had taken a spill on her bike...both elbows and both knees were really scraped...and it happened a week ago. 2 children had stitched...one across the bridge of her nose and the other in her head at the hairline of her forehead. I can guarantee only one didn't have a visible booboo.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 12:40:09 PM
Hi Wyks, cece, darla and Klaas!  ::MonkeyDance::

I distinctly remember thinking as I was taking my four year old to the ER for stitches, that he looked abused! My neighbor was with me; the accident happened at her house, but I swear, he was just so full of himself! She kept apologizing and saying, "But, I was right there, I was watching him closely!" I finally did a recount of the most recent "boo-boo's" while I had been "right there" too and she felt better! She was ready to close the trunk from getting groceries out, and at the last second, he reached in and she closed it on his head..........  ::MonkeyNoNo:: BUT, a couple of weeks earlier, he had fallen out of the grocery cart because he saw something he wanted on the bottom shelf while I was standing RIGHT THERE reading a label! He just thought he could do anything physically and was scared of NOTHING! He grew up to be a football player, and I stopped at one child.........   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Caylee seemed to be an active child, so I'm not sure we'll ever know if she was just one of those kids, or if there was some physical abuse. I do believe she was emotionally abused.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

CBB I too believe she was emotionally abused....the tug o wars and the arguments between kc and sin-sin.....it had to be very confusing for her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 13, 2009, 12:42:25 PM
  ::MonkeyBikeYorkie::  Hi CBB!   ::puppy::   ::bee::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 13, 2009, 12:42:33 PM
Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!

I have 2 grandkids who keep circles under their eyes, and another that on any given day has at least 5 or 6 bruises on him. He is 10 yrs old and has more scars on him than most 50 yr olds. I know that he has had stitches at least 5 times . He is rambunctious in the extreme and also has MD and falls multiple times a day. But if a stranger were to see him ,they would swear he has been abused all of his life. Some kids just bruise easier than others. What strikes me the most with Caylee's pictures in the last months of her precious life, is how incredibly sad she looked in all of them. There was no light in her lil eyes at all. The sparkle was gone . I don't know any other way to describe it .
Good Morning Darla. That's what I'm trying to get at, and you explained it about your grandkids  ::MonkeyAngel:: Some kids are just rambunctious and get bruised a lot, and it is hard to determine just by looking at a pic of someone if the child is being abused or is peppy and is prone to bruising. I will agree, the newer pics of Caylee she lost that sparkle in her eyes that she had in many of the younger pics of her. Hope you are doing fine today  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 12:43:17 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 13, 2009, 12:44:37 PM
Not defending Casey by any means, but my son had "allergic shiners" as a child.  He was allergic to everything! 

I still get them,as does my little grandson.
Me too, and my older daughter, and Wyks by your post so did your son, it is awful when one has so many allergies  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 12:45:05 PM
CBB - I just thought about something that made me laugh out loud....remember the coffee pot that made predictions? ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 13, 2009, 12:46:38 PM
I've seen sev pics of Caylee with what looks like bruises or black eyes, and wondered about them.  Lack of sleep or incorrect diet can make eyes look like that, in some children.  It's hard to know, by the pics alone. 

When my oldest was that young, his eyes looked like that at times.  Most often later in the day after he had been outside romping and playing.  I thought maybe it was because he was tired.  When it continued, and became more frequent, despite my ensuring he was getting enough sleep and eating well, as well as taking vits etc, I asked the doc about it.  After a reg exam was told he was healthy, to take him to the eye doc, maybe his eyes were strained and he needed glasses. 

Turns out, the eye doc said it was allergies.  He said that before even testing his eyes.  Called em "allergy shiners".  Still tested his eyes tho, which came out fine. 

Back to the other doc.  Now testing for allergies.  Turns out he was highly allergic to nearly everything, but especially milk!  Allergic to milk, corn, wheat, soy, eggs.  All grasses, trees, dust, mites......... and so on.  Food elimination diet began.  Ugh.  And he had to have a weekly allergy shot.  But after awhile, the shadows under his eyes soon went away, and hasn't had em since. 

Maybe, who knows, maybe this is what was going on with Caylee.  Have heard reported that she was healthy etc.  But still..... my son's doc said he was healthy too.  It wasn't until the need for allergy tests came about that we discovered what was up.  So if they hadn't had Caylee actually tested, they likely wouldn't know about any possible allergies, and so, think she was perfectly healthy.  Sometimes these things aren't found out until the child is bet 3 and school-age.  Just saying....

The shadows under her eyes have concerned me.  Also a concern are the expressions that Caylee had.  As others have said, she had the eyes of an 'old soul'.  As in wise beyond her years, perhaps having experienced much at such an early age.  She looks 'haunted' in many of her pics.  So much so, that it breaks my heart in seeing some of those pics.  Sigh. 


Hi wyks....Klaas mentioned allergy shiners and now you mention it as well. First time I have heard this term.  I have terrible allergies....mold, ragweed, pollen....etc....mostly outdoor allergies.

Hi Sunny!  Yep, I was writing as Klaas posted hers, lol.  My son hadn't even got settled in the eye doc's chair before he said "allergy shiners!".  I was like... huh??  lol  Then he explained that sooooooooo many folks came to him with shadows under their eyes like that.  Some outgrow the allergies, some don't.  From what I understand, when highly allergic to say, environmental things, it can be harder to outgrow.   Food allergies seem to be easier for some to outgrow.  I have allergies that sound like yours, mostly outdoor.  And it's different in different areas of town, depending on the trees, etc in the area.  High cotton-flying days, I pretty much stay indoors.   ::MonkeyHaHa::
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 12:47:55 PM
Just thought about something else...for those who many not know about this kook Brian's Dreams....it was proved some time ago that he changed the dates and times on his 'dream predictions' to fit the situation ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyWink::  IMO that is.... ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 12:51:47 PM
I'm thinking we have a serious "Klutz Monkey" membership here............ just sayin'.   ::MonkeyTease::

There's plenty of tangible evidence that Caylee was not properly loved and cared for. The dynamics within that household would have made that almost impossible, IMO. I don't think Cindy, George, and Casey suddenly developed their personalities in a day. I just don't know about the physical element until she was actually killed.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 12:53:32 PM
CBB - I just thought about something that made me laugh out loud....remember the coffee pot that made predictions? ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: OMG! I'd forgotten, but I'm laughing with you!!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 13, 2009, 12:53:42 PM
Sunny I'm snipping this section of your post.   JMO....kc, dragged Caylee around all hours of the day and night. WE KNOW that from statements of  kc's friends.  Caylee might surely have suffered AT TIMES from being TIRED. We have no proof, not even statements from friends, that Caylee was abused in any way.  In fact, just the opposite! Some friend, can't remember who at the moment and it's not important,  said kc was perhaps, at times, overly protective. Little kids fall and get bruised and yes, they get black eyes.                  Exactly, I don't recall anyone say they saw her being abusive to Caylee, not one person. And putting aside my feelings and what I think about George and Cindy, they may be a lot of things, but imo if they saw Casey beating on Caylee I don't think they would have tolerated that, of course I could be wrong.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: darla on September 13, 2009, 12:53:46 PM
Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!

I have 2 grandkids who keep circles under their eyes, and another that on any given day has at least 5 or 6 bruises on him. He is 10 yrs old and has more scars on him than most 50 yr olds. I know that he has had stitches at least 5 times . He is rambunctious in the extreme and also has MD and falls multiple times a day. But if a stranger were to see him ,they would swear he has been abused all of his life. Some kids just bruise easier than others. What strikes me the most with Caylee's pictures in the last months of her precious life, is how incredibly sad she looked in all of them. There was no light in her lil eyes at all. The sparkle was gone . I don't know any other way to describe it .
Good Morning Darla. That's what I'm trying to get at, and you explained it about your grandkids  ::MonkeyAngel:: Some kids are just rambunctious and get bruised a lot, and it is hard to determine just by looking at a pic of someone if the child is being abused or is peppy and is prone to bruising. I will agree, the newer pics of Caylee she lost that sparkle in her eyes that she had in many of the younger pics of her. Hope you are doing fine today  ::MonkeyAngel::
When I am talking to my grandkids, I love to watch their eyes......They are always sparkling, especially when they are excited. Eyes are the first thing I notice about a person.

Some kids are just more prone to accidents and like I said if you saw my Chandler on any given day, you would be ready to call in the cops. He bruises easily and is just into everything . He is never still even in his sleep.

I am doing great today. Thanks !


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 13, 2009, 12:57:04 PM
Hi Sunny and Trimm! You snuck in on me while I was posting, but I didn't want to leave you out!!   ::MonkeyWink::

Hey CBB...my bottom lip was out cause I thought you missed me!   ::MonkeyJnBox::

I co-hosted a swimming birthday party yesterday with 20, 5, 6, 7 and 8 yo's in attendance....yes,    I am nuts!  LOL...  2 little boys had black eyes, one little girl had taken a spill on her bike...both elbows and both knees were really scraped...and it happened a week ago. 2 children had stitched...one across the bridge of her nose and the other in her head at the hairline of her forehead. I can guarantee only one didn't have a visible booboo.  ::MonkeyTongue::
  ::MonkeyEek::  I hope you had a stiff drink after that  ::MonkeyDevil::  It is rare not to see a kid without somekind of bruise or cut, unless they just sit and don't do much all day.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 13, 2009, 12:57:32 PM
Hi Wyks, cece, darla and Klaas!  ::MonkeyDance::

I distinctly remember thinking as I was taking my four year old to the ER for stitches, that he looked abused! My neighbor was with me; the accident happened at her house, but I swear, he was just so full of himself! She kept apologizing and saying, "But, I was right there, I was watching him closely!" I finally did a recount of the most recent "boo-boo's" while I had been "right there" too and she felt better! She was ready to close the trunk from getting groceries out, and at the last second, he reached in and she closed it on his head..........  ::MonkeyNoNo:: BUT, a couple of weeks earlier, he had fallen out of the grocery cart because he saw something he wanted on the bottom shelf while I was standing RIGHT THERE reading a label! He just thought he could do anything physically and was scared of NOTHING! He grew up to be a football player, and I stopped at one child.........   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Caylee seemed to be an active child, so I'm not sure we'll ever know if she was just one of those kids, or if there was some physical abuse. I do believe she was emotionally abused.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hi CBB!   ::MonkeyDance::

I agree, am thinking that at the least, Caylee was emotionally, if not verbally, abused.  Just in how the A's act in public, gosh......... I can only imagine what it must have been like, behind doors.  A child can be emotionally abused (IMO) just sitting in the midst of squabbling adults.  Worse if the fight bet the adults gets physical.  This is why some kids need to have therapy in their later life, even if the only abuse they received was being the witness to other abuse going on around them.  My middle son is one of those.  The squabbling and abuse from his father toward me, scared him so much he would hide under the nearest table.  He remains to this day overly cautious, with a great deal of anxiety.  And that's after 20 years!!  That's emotional abuse, and am betting that at the very least, it was like this with Caylee.  IMO 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 13, 2009, 12:57:35 PM
::MonkeyTease:: ::MonkeyTease::

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The fee for a private psychic reading by telephone is just $149 per half hour session but if you order today, your phone call with Gale also includes a free private dream reading by dream expert Brian Ladd of www.BriansDreams.com.

This service is normally sold here for $99, but if you order today, it's included free of charge!

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 12:58:03 PM


Hi wyks....Klaas mentioned allergy shiners and now you mention it as well. First time I have heard this term.  I have terrible allergies....mold, ragweed, pollen....etc....mostly outdoor allergies.

Hi Sunny!  Yep, I was writing as Klaas posted hers, lol.  My son hadn't even got settled in the eye doc's chair before he said "allergy shiners!".  I was like... huh??  lol  Then he explained that sooooooooo many folks came to him with shadows under their eyes like that.  Some outgrow the allergies, some don't.  From what I understand, when highly allergic to say, environmental things, it can be harder to outgrow.   Food allergies seem to be easier for some to outgrow.  I have allergies that sound like yours, mostly outdoor.  And it's different in different areas of town, depending on the trees, etc in the area.  High cotton-flying days, I pretty much stay indoors.   ::MonkeyHaHa::  

We moved back to MO from TX 2 years ago and my allergies as being exposed to new and different allergens than I was used to so it been....achoo!! achoo!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 01:00:46 PM
A buck, huh? I don't know, Tupelo.................. do you have a coffee pot?    ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 01:03:29 PM
Wyks, you're so right! I'm sorry about your son. {{HUGS}}. Those kind of scars don't heal easily, and I do believe that Caylee's world was becoming more difficult as she got more able to put a crimp in Casey's lies. JMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 01:09:55 PM
CBB - I just thought about something that made me laugh out loud....remember the coffee pot that made predictions? ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: OMG! I'd forgotten, but I'm laughing with you!!! 

I wish I still had that site...it was a hoot!! Sorry...just reminiscing about 'the good? ole days' LOL


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 13, 2009, 01:12:09 PM
Not defending Casey by any means, but my son had "allergic shiners" as a child.  He was allergic to everything! 

I still get them,as does my little grandson.
Me too, and my older daughter, and Wyks by your post so did your son, it is awful when one has so many allergies  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yes, it IS awful!  Seems that the actual testing for allergies is as hard, if not harder to bear, than the allergies themselves.  Sigh.  Will never forget what my son went thru during those tests.  What an ordeal.  The nurse made a game of taking the shots.  She told my son that if he could count to 5 lickety-split, before she was done with the shot, that next week he wouldn't have to take his shot.  Hehe.  He tried hard to outcount her, believe me.  It really took the focus off the shot, he had to concentrate on counting fast.  Of course, he needed those shots, and she and I both knew she was faster at the shot than he was at counting.  But she always gave him that hope.......  He actually looked forward to shot day, than dreading it.  ::MonkeyWink:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 01:12:45 PM
Sunny I'm snipping this section of your post.   JMO....kc, dragged Caylee around all hours of the day and night. WE KNOW that from statements of  kc's friends.  Caylee might surely have suffered AT TIMES from being TIRED. We have no proof, not even statements from friends, that Caylee was abused in any way.  In fact, just the opposite! Some friend, can't remember who at the moment and it's not important,  said kc was perhaps, at times, overly protective. Little kids fall and get bruised and yes, they get black eyes.                 


 Exactly, I don't recall anyone say they saw her being abusive to Caylee, not one person. And putting aside my feelings and what I think about George and Cindy, they may be a lot of things, but imo if they saw Casey beating on Caylee I don't think they would have tolerated that, of course I could be wrong.

nrcg...I agree...it is difficult sometimes to put our feelings aside, in this case in particular.  But I do agree......I don't believe the a's would have allowed Caylee to be abused physically. I do think they loved her......but I guess not enough. ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 13, 2009, 01:15:27 PM
Not defending Casey by any means, but my son had "allergic shiners" as a child.  He was allergic to everything! 

I still get them,as does my little grandson.
Me too, and my older daughter, and Wyks by your post so did your son, it is awful when one has so many allergies  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yes, it IS awful!  Seems that the actual testing for allergies is as hard, if not harder to bear, than the allergies themselves.  Sigh.  Will never forget what my son went thru during those tests.  What an ordeal.  The nurse made a game of taking the shots.  She told my son that if he could count to 5 lickety-split, before she was done with the shot, that next week he wouldn't have to take his shot.  Hehe.  He tried hard to outcount her, believe me.  It really took the focus off the shot, he had to concentrate on counting fast.  Of course, he needed those shots, and she and I both knew she was faster at the shot than he was at counting.  But she always gave him that hope.......  He actually looked forward to shot day, than dreading it.  ::MonkeyWink:: 

I was allergic to everything they tested me for  ::MonkeyRoll:: My grandfather was a RN he gave me the shots, two to three times a week. Caylee could have been allergic to the dogs in the house, if indeed those were allergic shiners.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 01:16:11 PM
Hi Sunny and Trimm! You snuck in on me while I was posting, but I didn't want to leave you out!!   ::MonkeyWink::

Hey CBB...my bottom lip was out cause I thought you missed me!   ::MonkeyJnBox::

I co-hosted a swimming birthday party yesterday with 20, 5, 6, 7 and 8 yo's in attendance....yes,    I am nuts!  LOL...  2 little boys had black eyes, one little girl had taken a spill on her bike...both elbows and both knees were really scraped...and it happened a week ago. 2 children had stitched...one across the bridge of her nose and the other in her head at the hairline of her forehead. I can guarantee only one didn't have a visible booboo.  ::MonkeyTongue::
  ::MonkeyEek::  I hope you had a stiff drink after that  ::MonkeyDevil::  It is rare not to see a kid without some kind of bruise or cut, unless they just sit and don't do much all day.

LOL...YES I DID...several as a matter of fact.!  And further tortured myself by attending a charity trivia night for abused and forgotten animals.  I bid on and won 2 little hugging monkeys!! in the silent auction!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 13, 2009, 01:17:39 PM
Just thought about something else...for those who many not know about this kook Brian's Dreams....it was proved some time ago that he changed the dates and times on his 'dream predictions' to fit the situation ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyWink::  IMO that is.... ::MonkeyWink::

Some say he is a kook, some swear by what he does.  I'm kinda in the middle of the road, not sure what or who to believe.  I've heard this before tho... that there is 'proof' of his changing dates and times.  But I haven't seen that actual proof.  Do you know of a site that discusses this, with proof?  Just curious.  For the most part, I find his work fascinating.  Just not so sure I believe it tho, cuz of what I've heard.  Just my thoughts. 

 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Kat_Gram on September 13, 2009, 01:17:57 PM
I have pix of GD where she looks tired with those shadows under the eyes.
I don't have any pix of when they were really sick. Not a photo op. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 13, 2009, 01:18:06 PM
A buck, huh? I don't know, Tupelo.................. do you have a coffee pot?    ::MonkeyTongue::
I use tea leaves....therefore a tea pot!  ::MonkeyTease::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 01:22:12 PM
Hi Wyks, cece, darla and Klaas!  ::MonkeyDance::

I distinctly remember thinking as I was taking my four year old to the ER for stitches, that he looked abused! My neighbor was with me; the accident happened at her house, but I swear, he was just so full of himself! She kept apologizing and saying, "But, I was right there, I was watching him closely!" I finally did a recount of the most recent "boo-boo's" while I had been "right there" too and she felt better! She was ready to close the trunk from getting groceries out, and at the last second, he reached in and she closed it on his head..........  ::MonkeyNoNo:: BUT, a couple of weeks earlier, he had fallen out of the grocery cart because he saw something he wanted on the bottom shelf while I was standing RIGHT THERE reading a label! He just thought he could do anything physically and was scared of NOTHING! He grew up to be a football player, and I stopped at one child.........   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Caylee seemed to be an active child, so I'm not sure we'll ever know if she was just one of those kids, or if there was some physical abuse. I do believe she was emotionally abused.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hi CBB!   ::MonkeyDance::

I agree, am thinking that at the least, Caylee was emotionally, if not verbally, abused.  Just in how the A's act in public, gosh......... I can only imagine what it must have been like, behind doors.  A child can be emotionally abused (IMO) just sitting in the midst of squabbling adults.  Worse if the fight bet the adults gets physical.  This is why some kids need to have therapy in their later life, even if the only abuse they received was being the witness to other abuse going on around them.  My middle son is one of those.  The squabbling and abuse from his father toward me, scared him so much he would hide under the nearest table.  He remains to this day overly cautious, with a great deal of anxiety.  And that's after 20 years!!  That's emotional abuse, and am betting that at the very least, it was like this with Caylee.  IMO 


I am so sorry you and your son experienced this.  And I do honestly belief Caylee witnessed many arguments and disagreements between kc and the a's. Even when she didn't understand the words, I am betting she understood the tone.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 01:22:47 PM
I have pix of GD where she looks tired with those shadows under the eyes.
I don't have any pix of when they were really sick. Not a photo op. 

Hi Kat_Gram! Good to see you! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 01:23:27 PM
::MonkeyTease:: ::MonkeyTease::

Calling ANJ....read this folks!   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Gale St. John has been a psychic her entire life and has been featured on dozens of TV's show, documentaries, interviews with people such as Larry King, Nancy Grace and Geraldo Rivera. Currently she's working on a new TV mini series dedicated to help find missing people.

She's also given personal phone readings to dozens of celebrities and has earned a reputation of being the best in the business when it comes to helping others using her psychic abilities.

The fee for a private psychic reading by telephone is just $149 per half hour session but if you order today, your phone call with Gale also includes a free private dream reading by dream expert Brian Ladd of www.BriansDreams.com.

This service is normally sold here for $99, but if you order today, it's included free of charge!

For your convenience, a PayPal account has been set up.  Just click on the PayPal javascript:closeGhostery()button below to send your payment securely. 

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 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: I too, can say anything for a buck!!!  Just a buck now.....come on do I have any takers?  ::MonkeyWink::

Hi tupelo!!   ::MonkeyJnBox::  hellofa way to make a living, huh!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 13, 2009, 01:25:14 PM


Hi wyks....Klaas mentioned allergy shiners and now you mention it as well. First time I have heard this term.  I have terrible allergies....mold, ragweed, pollen....etc....mostly outdoor allergies.

Hi Sunny!  Yep, I was writing as Klaas posted hers, lol.  My son hadn't even got settled in the eye doc's chair before he said "allergy shiners!".  I was like... huh??  lol  Then he explained that sooooooooo many folks came to him with shadows under their eyes like that.  Some outgrow the allergies, some don't.  From what I understand, when highly allergic to say, environmental things, it can be harder to outgrow.   Food allergies seem to be easier for some to outgrow.  I have allergies that sound like yours, mostly outdoor.  And it's different in different areas of town, depending on the trees, etc in the area.  High cotton-flying days, I pretty much stay indoors.   ::MonkeyHaHa::  

We moved back to MO from TX 2 years ago and my allergies as being exposed to new and different allergens than I was used to so it been....achoo!! achoo!!

Awwwww....

I grew up in an area north of Sacramento, where there was a bridge that seperated towns.  My kids grew up on the other side of that bridge.  When at home with my kids, I wouldn't have allergic reactions.  But within a few minutes of crossing the bridge into my hometown, I'd be sneezing.  Weird, isn't it?   We moved to Nebraska about 8 years ago, and NO allergies for me or my sons ever since.  It's odd, these environmenal things.....




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 01:27:50 PM
Just thought about something else...for those who many not know about this kook Brian's Dreams....it was proved some time ago that he changed the dates and times on his 'dream predictions' to fit the situation ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyWink::  IMO that is.... ::MonkeyWink::

Some say he is a kook, some swear by what he does.  I'm kinda in the middle of the road, not sure what or who to believe.  I've heard this before tho... that there is 'proof' of his changing dates and times.  But I haven't seen that actual proof.  Do you know of a site that discusses this, with proof?  Just curious.  For the most part, I find his work fascinating.  Just not so sure I believe it tho, cuz of what I've heard.  Just my thoughts.   

Wyks..I am sorry I no longer have the info on Brian...it has been at least 2-3 years ago. I deleted all that when I got my new computer.   I did see the 'proof' as it was presented. It was pretty convincing.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 01:29:18 PM
Casey's going down!   ::MonkeyDance:: (Sorry........ that just bubbled up)

Anytime I feel discouraged about this case, I remind myself there's hair with a dead ring from the trunk that must be Casey's or Caylee's. Casey's living, so....................

I think a jury can understand that.   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 01:29:34 PM
I have pix of GD where she looks tired with those shadows under the eyes.
I don't have any pix of when they were really sick. Not a photo op. 

KAT  is in the house...errrr  cage!! ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 01:30:14 PM
A buck, huh? I don't know, Tupelo.................. do you have a coffee pot?    ::MonkeyTongue::
I use tea leaves....therefore a tea pot!  ::MonkeyTease::

 ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 13, 2009, 01:31:14 PM

nrcg...I agree...it is difficult sometimes to put our feelings aside, in this case in particular.  But I do agree......I don't believe the a's would have allowed Caylee to be abused physically. I do think they loved her......but I guess not enough. ::MonkeyWaa::

 ::MonkeyWaa:: Those words just gave me goose bumps!  ::MonkeyWaa::   (http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t348/carolleighf/new-monkey-angel2.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 13, 2009, 01:34:06 PM
Casey's going down!   ::MonkeyDance:: (Sorry........ that just bubbled up)

Anytime I feel discouraged about this case, I remind myself there's hair with a dead ring from the trunk that must be Casey's or Caylee's. Casey's living, so....................

I think a jury can understand that.   ::MonkeyDance::

 ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 13, 2009, 01:42:00 PM
Wyks, you're so right! I'm sorry about your son. {{HUGS}}. Those kind of scars don't heal easily, and I do believe that Caylee's world was becoming more difficult as she got more able to put a crimp in Casey's lies. JMO.

Thanks CBB!  I agree with you about Caylee's world, it seems that way to me too.  I often wonder if, in Caylee, we were seeing what life may have been like for Casey as a little girl.  Kind of wonder what Caylee would have turned out like as an adult, given the chance.  Not making excuses for Casey, not by any means, just an observation.  Am thinking like others too, that the older Caylee got, the more she could talk about what she experienced or witnessed.  And as in many homes, one can learn early on, the hard way, about the 'no talk' rule.   

I just have to wonder, as has been discussed a lot, during the ride home from seeing Great-Gpa, if Caylee innocently said something to CinCin which may have sparked more anger in CinCin toward Casey.  IIRC, the 'choke hold' fight CinCin and Casey supposedly had wasn't long after CinCin and Caylee had gotten back home that night.  Could have been about the $$ stolen from the Great-Grandparents, and could have also included something Caylee may have said too. 

I can just see Caylee, who seemed soooooo very tired/drained in the video with Great-Gpa, clinging to him....  saying something like 'I don't wanna go see mommy....'  I dunno, just some thoughts. 
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 13, 2009, 01:49:02 PM
Casey's going down!   ::MonkeyDance:: (Sorry........ that just bubbled up)

Anytime I feel discouraged about this case, I remind myself there's hair with a dead ring from the trunk that must be Casey's or Caylee's. Casey's living, so....................

I think a jury can understand that.   ::MonkeyDance::

Music to my ears!!!

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/dca7171053ea3c0b62e35883f9f9.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 13, 2009, 01:50:43 PM
Sunny I'm snipping this section of your post.   JMO....kc, dragged Caylee around all hours of the day and night. WE KNOW that from statements of  kc's friends.  Caylee might surely have suffered AT TIMES from being TIRED. We have no proof, not even statements from friends, that Caylee was abused in any way.  In fact, just the opposite! Some friend, can't remember who at the moment and it's not important,  said kc was perhaps, at times, overly protective. Little kids fall and get bruised and yes, they get black eyes.                 


 Exactly, I don't recall anyone say they saw her being abusive to Caylee, not one person. And putting aside my feelings and what I think about George and Cindy, they may be a lot of things, but imo if they saw Casey beating on Caylee I don't think they would have tolerated that, of course I could be wrong.

nrcg...I agree...it is difficult sometimes to put our feelings aside, in this case in particular.  But I do agree......I don't believe the a's would have allowed Caylee to be abused physically. I do think they loved her......but I guess not enough. ::MonkeyWaa::

My mind goes back to CinCin remarks about trying to get custody of Caylee.  Whether that was a threat she just used toward Casey to get her own way in things, or if she actually tried for that, I dunno.  Makes me wonder what, if anything, may have been happening to cause CinCin to make that threat.  Knowing what we do of CinCin, may have been nothing except her own need for control.  On the other hand.. what if she had good reason?  Her seeming need to control everything around her, incl what seems now to be covering for Casey no matter what, could be why she doesn't come right out and tell media what may have happened before to cause her to threaten getting custody.  Seems she has switched back and forth, from Casey is a bad mama/person to Casey is the mother of the year.   ::MonkeyRoll:: 

   


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: carolb on September 13, 2009, 02:07:14 PM
I have always wondered about the gap of missing hair between her bangs and pony tail (above her temples) in the last video at the nursing home. In earlier photos it seems like her hair was fuller in that area. Just as the glitter seemed to be leaving her eyes, so did some of her hair leave her scalp. I think that she was probably duct taped prior to that Father's Day. I'm sorry I don't have any of the pictures to show what I mean.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 02:08:40 PM
Living with Cindy is enough of a factor to convince me that there was emotional abuse to anyone else in the place!

I don't doubt for a moment that Cindy's possesiveness of Caylee and criticism of Casey added to the environment that would result in Caylee's death. The only way I can even kind of understand Cindy's staunch support of Casey is that it's because if Casey is found guilty, she can look in the mirror and take some responsibility, too. JMO!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 02:08:46 PM
Casey's going down!   ::MonkeyDance:: (Sorry........ that just bubbled up)

Anytime I feel discouraged about this case, I remind myself there's hair with a dead ring from the trunk that must be Casey's or Caylee's. Casey's living, so....................

I think a jury can understand that.   ::MonkeyDance::

I also THINK the SA has a lot more evidence that we don't know about...yep kc is going down....and whether it's the DP or LWOP makes me no difference.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 02:10:26 PM

nrcg...I agree...it is difficult sometimes to put our feelings aside, in this case in particular.  But I do agree......I don't believe the a's would have allowed Caylee to be abused physically. I do think they loved her......but I guess not enough. ::MonkeyWaa::

 ::MonkeyWaa:: Those words just gave me goose bumps!  ::MonkeyWaa::   (http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t348/carolleighf/new-monkey-angel2.gif)

Hi gizzie!!  It's sad how anyone can't love a child enough to want her murderer, no matter who that person is, punished.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 02:10:27 PM
I have always wondered about the gap of missing hair between her bangs and pony tail (above her temples) in the last video at the nursing home. In earlier photos it seems like her hair was fuller in that area. Just as the glitter seemed to be leaving her eyes, so did some of her hair leave her scalp. I think that she was probably duct taped prior to that Father's Day. I'm sorry I don't have any of the pictures to show what I mean.


I hadn't thought of that, carolb, but that's a good observation!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 02:11:44 PM
Casey's going down!   ::MonkeyDance:: (Sorry........ that just bubbled up)

Anytime I feel discouraged about this case, I remind myself there's hair with a dead ring from the trunk that must be Casey's or Caylee's. Casey's living, so....................

I think a jury can understand that.   ::MonkeyDance::

I also THINK the SA has a lot more evidence that we don't know about...yep kc is going down....and whether it's the DP or LWOP makes me no difference.

Oh, I do hope so, Sunny! From your words to God's ears! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 02:12:49 PM
Living with Cindy is enough of a factor to convince me that there was emotional abuse to anyone else in the place!

I don't doubt for a moment that Cindy's possesiveness of Caylee and criticism of Casey added to the environment that would result in Caylee's death. The only way I can even kind of understand Cindy's staunch support of Casey is that it's because if Casey is found guilty, she can look in the mirror and take some responsibility, too. JMO!

CBB - I agree with your bolded statement above totally.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 13, 2009, 02:12:50 PM

Hi CBB!   ::MonkeyDance::

I agree, am thinking that at the least, Caylee was emotionally, if not verbally, abused.  Just in how the A's act in public, gosh......... I can only imagine what it must have been like, behind doors.  A child can be emotionally abused (IMO) just sitting in the midst of squabbling adults.  Worse if the fight bet the adults gets physical.  This is why some kids need to have therapy in their later life, even if the only abuse they received was being the witness to other abuse going on around them.  My middle son is one of those.  The squabbling and abuse from his father toward me, scared him so much he would hide under the nearest table.  He remains to this day overly cautious, with a great deal of anxiety.  And that's after 20 years!!  That's emotional abuse, and am betting that at the very least, it was like this with Caylee.  IMO 


I am so sorry you and your son experienced this.  And I do honestly belief Caylee witnessed many arguments and disagreements between kc and the a's. Even when she didn't understand the words, I am betting she understood the tone.

Thanks Sunny.  What I forgot to make clear is that our experiences lasted just a few years, then I kicked his father out, getting a restraining order, etc.  Although the actual trauma to my sons, (each with different experiences), was during those few years, the effects have been long-lasting.  Sigh.  I can look at each son, and trace back to those few years where the effects began.  It's been verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry difficult for me, watching them grow up and become the men they've become, knowing what they've gone and how it's affected them.  My guilt is huge.  And I was one of the victims as well.  Mom's guilt, I guess.  The kind of thing where I asked myself over and over, why didn't I act sooner with the restraining order?  Ahhh well.  Hindsight and all.  All I can do is apologize to them, which I've done, and try to help them not repeat with their own families.  Middle and younger sons are doing fine, each as well as can be expected.  But my oldest?   :gaah:  He is his father's son, cut from the same cloth.  And that's even with 20+ years since he's laid eyes on him.  <cries>  It's such an awful feeling, one that I do try hard daily to shake.  Not easy tho. 

My heart breaks for Caylee.  And as sad sad sad it is that she's no longer on this earth, as horrid as her death must have been........ the more we learn of the A's, the more glad I am that Caylee is in heaven, hopefully tucked safely in the arms of the angels.  IMO 

And also IMO, children are a blessed gift.  It does bring some measure of peace to think that *perhaps* the good Lord looked down, saw how His blessed gift may have been treated, and plucked His gift back from the undeserving mother.  <<<<------- Just my opinion. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Puzzler on September 13, 2009, 02:13:01 PM
Sunny I'm snipping this section of your post.   JMO....kc, dragged Caylee around all hours of the day and night. WE KNOW that from statements of  kc's friends.  Caylee might surely have suffered AT TIMES from being TIRED. We have no proof, not even statements from friends, that Caylee was abused in any way.  In fact, just the opposite! Some friend, can't remember who at the moment and it's not important,  said kc was perhaps, at times, overly protective. Little kids fall and get bruised and yes, they get black eyes.                 


 Exactly, I don't recall anyone say they saw her being abusive to Caylee, not one person. And putting aside my feelings and what I think about George and Cindy, they may be a lot of things, but imo if they saw Casey beating on Caylee I don't think they would have tolerated that, of course I could be wrong.

nrcg...I agree...it is difficult sometimes to put our feelings aside, in this case in particular.  But I do agree......I don't believe the a's would have allowed Caylee to be abused physically. I do think they loved her......but I guess not enough. ::MonkeyWaa::

My mind goes back to CinCin remarks about trying to get custody of Caylee.  Whether that was a threat she just used toward Casey to get her own way in things, or if she actually tried for that, I dunno.  Makes me wonder what, if anything, may have been happening to cause CinCin to make that threat.  Knowing what we do of CinCin, may have been nothing except her own need for control.  On the other hand.. what if she had good reason?  Her seeming need to control everything around her, incl what seems now to be covering for Casey no matter what, could be why she doesn't come right out and tell media what may have happened before to cause her to threaten getting custody.  Seems she has switched back and forth, from Casey is a bad mama/person to Casey is the mother of the year.   ::MonkeyRoll:: 

   

Good afternoon, monkeys.

It just struck me that Cindy can protect KC all she wants, but the fact is that she went to a therapist to find out how to handle the situation of getting custody of Caylee.  So - Cindy's stuck with the fact that she thought KC was such a bad mother that Cindy should take custoday away from KC.

Another thing that Cindy is stuck with (if we heard the truth) is that the therapist told her to get Caylee in a safe place before Cindy should confont KC about getting custody - Cindy did not get Caylee in a safe place "first".



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 13, 2009, 02:13:49 PM
I have always wondered about the gap of missing hair between her bangs and pony tail (above her temples) in the last video at the nursing home. In earlier photos it seems like her hair was fuller in that area. Just as the glitter seemed to be leaving her eyes, so did some of her hair leave her scalp. I think that she was probably duct taped prior to that Father's Day. I'm sorry I don't have any of the pictures to show what I mean.

I know what you mean, I'm not sure if she was losing hair, or maybe the hair was pulled back tight in the pony tail. I don't know if a two year old can get this, but because of stress I unfortunately lost some of my hair in a patch, it is now grown back, but maybe she had something like that. I have seen kids with their hair pulled back where it looked like that so I don't know. My kids were blessed or not I suppose how you look at it with thick hair, so I never noticed that when their hair was pulled back. It's kind of hard for me to tell from pictures but Caylee looked to have had thin hair.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Puzzler on September 13, 2009, 02:14:31 PM
Living with Cindy is enough of a factor to convince me that there was emotional abuse to anyone else in the place!

I don't doubt for a moment that Cindy's possesiveness of Caylee and criticism of Casey added to the environment that would result in Caylee's death. The only way I can even kind of understand Cindy's staunch support of Casey is that it's because if Casey is found guilty, she can look in the mirror and take some responsibility, too. JMO!

CBB - I agree with your bolded statement above totally.

Sunny - O/T - I always notice your big girl panties smilie...wouldn't it be cute if we had a monkey "big girl panties"..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 13, 2009, 02:17:47 PM
Just thought about something else...for those who many not know about this kook Brian's Dreams....it was proved some time ago that he changed the dates and times on his 'dream predictions' to fit the situation ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyWink::  IMO that is.... ::MonkeyWink::

Some say he is a kook, some swear by what he does.  I'm kinda in the middle of the road, not sure what or who to believe.  I've heard this before tho... that there is 'proof' of his changing dates and times.  But I haven't seen that actual proof.  Do you know of a site that discusses this, with proof?  Just curious.  For the most part, I find his work fascinating.  Just not so sure I believe it tho, cuz of what I've heard.  Just my thoughts.   

Wyks..I am sorry I no longer have the info on Brian...it has been at least 2-3 years ago. I deleted all that when I got my new computer.   I did see the 'proof' as it was presented. It was pretty convincing.

Yeah, it's been awhile.  But thanks, Sunny.  I'll just have to take folks word for it, who saw the proof.  Thanks again! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 13, 2009, 02:18:37 PM
Sunny I'm snipping this section of your post.   JMO....kc, dragged Caylee around all hours of the day and night. WE KNOW that from statements of  kc's friends.  Caylee might surely have suffered AT TIMES from being TIRED. We have no proof, not even statements from friends, that Caylee was abused in any way.  In fact, just the opposite! Some friend, can't remember who at the moment and it's not important,  said kc was perhaps, at times, overly protective. Little kids fall and get bruised and yes, they get black eyes.                 


 Exactly, I don't recall anyone say they saw her being abusive to Caylee, not one person. And putting aside my feelings and what I think about George and Cindy, they may be a lot of things, but imo if they saw Casey beating on Caylee I don't think they would have tolerated that, of course I could be wrong.

nrcg...I agree...it is difficult sometimes to put our feelings aside, in this case in particular.  But I do agree......I don't believe the a's would have allowed Caylee to be abused physically. I do think they loved her......but I guess not enough. ::MonkeyWaa::

My mind goes back to CinCin remarks about trying to get custody of Caylee.  Whether that was a threat she just used toward Casey to get her own way in things, or if she actually tried for that, I dunno.  Makes me wonder what, if anything, may have been happening to cause CinCin to make that threat.  Knowing what we do of CinCin, may have been nothing except her own need for control.  On the other hand.. what if she had good reason?  Her seeming need to control everything around her, incl what seems now to be covering for Casey no matter what, could be why she doesn't come right out and tell media what may have happened before to cause her to threaten getting custody.  Seems she has switched back and forth, from Casey is a bad mama/person to Casey is the mother of the year.   ::MonkeyRoll:: 

   

Good afternoon, monkeys.

It just struck me that Cindy can protect KC all she wants, but the fact is that she went to a therapist to find out how to handle the situation of getting custody of Caylee.  So - Cindy's stuck with the fact that she thought KC was such a bad mother that Cindy should take custoday away from KC.

Another thing that Cindy is stuck with (if we heard the truth) is that the therapist told her to get Caylee in a safe place before Cindy should confont KC about getting custody - Cindy did not get Caylee in a safe place "first".


I just had a strange thought hit me after reading this post. Maybe a deal was made between Casey and her parents, we will do everything to get you off Casey, if you don't tell about the fight on Father's Day and the other things that happened inside the house. Casey did say something to Cindy in one of the jail house visits about not saying anything or something along those lines  ::MonkeyConfused:: Crazy maybe, but with this clan who knows?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 02:19:14 PM

Hi CBB!   ::MonkeyDance::

I agree, am thinking that at the least, Caylee was emotionally, if not verbally, abused.  Just in how the A's act in public, gosh......... I can only imagine what it must have been like, behind doors.  A child can be emotionally abused (IMO) just sitting in the midst of squabbling adults.  Worse if the fight bet the adults gets physical.  This is why some kids need to have therapy in their later life, even if the only abuse they received was being the witness to other abuse going on around them.  My middle son is one of those.  The squabbling and abuse from his father toward me, scared him so much he would hide under the nearest table.  He remains to this day overly cautious, with a great deal of anxiety.  And that's after 20 years!!  That's emotional abuse, and am betting that at the very least, it was like this with Caylee.  IMO 


I am so sorry you and your son experienced this.  And I do honestly belief Caylee witnessed many arguments and disagreements between kc and the a's. Even when she didn't understand the words, I am betting she understood the tone.

Thanks Sunny.  What I forgot to make clear is that our experiences lasted just a few years, then I kicked his father out, getting a restraining order, etc.  Although the actual trauma to my sons, (each with different experiences), was during those few years, the effects have been long-lasting.  Sigh.  I can look at each son, and trace back to those few years where the effects began.  It's been verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry difficult for me, watching them grow up and become the men they've become, knowing what they've gone and how it's affected them.  My guilt is huge.  And I was one of the victims as well.  Mom's guilt, I guess.  The kind of thing where I asked myself over and over, why didn't I act sooner with the restraining order?  Ahhh well.  Hindsight and all.  All I can do is apologize to them, which I've done, and try to help them not repeat with their own families.  Middle and younger sons are doing fine, each as well as can be expected.  But my oldest?   :gaah:  He is his father's son, cut from the same cloth.  And that's even with 20+ years since he's laid eyes on him.  <cries>  It's such an awful feeling, one that I do try hard daily to shake.  Not easy tho. 

My heart breaks for Caylee.  And as sad sad sad it is that she's no longer on this earth, as horrid as her death must have been........ the more we learn of the A's, the more glad I am that Caylee is in heaven, hopefully tucked safely in the arms of the angels.  IMO 

And also IMO, children are a blessed gift.  It does bring some measure of peace to think that *perhaps* the good Lord looked down, saw how His blessed gift may have been treated, and plucked His gift back from the undeserving mother.  <<<<------- Just my opinion. 


Wyks? You're a great Mom, and you did your best at the time. That's all any of us can do. I believe that Caylee is playing with other children and angels on rainbows, under the Watchful, Loving, and Smiling eyes of God, and that His arms are a favorite place for her. I really do.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 13, 2009, 02:19:17 PM
Casey's going down!   ::MonkeyDance:: (Sorry........ that just bubbled up)

Anytime I feel discouraged about this case, I remind myself there's hair with a dead ring from the trunk that must be Casey's or Caylee's. Casey's living, so....................

I think a jury can understand that.   ::MonkeyDance::

Music to my ears!!!

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/dca7171053ea3c0b62e35883f9f9.gif)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyDance::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 02:23:33 PM
Sunny I'm snipping this section of your post.   JMO....kc, dragged Caylee around all hours of the day and night. WE KNOW that from statements of  kc's friends.  Caylee might surely have suffered AT TIMES from being TIRED. We have no proof, not even statements from friends, that Caylee was abused in any way.  In fact, just the opposite! Some friend, can't remember who at the moment and it's not important,  said kc was perhaps, at times, overly protective. Little kids fall and get bruised and yes, they get black eyes.                 


 Exactly, I don't recall anyone say they saw her being abusive to Caylee, not one person. And putting aside my feelings and what I think about George and Cindy, they may be a lot of things, but imo if they saw Casey beating on Caylee I don't think they would have tolerated that, of course I could be wrong.

nrcg...I agree...it is difficult sometimes to put our feelings aside, in this case in particular.  But I do agree......I don't believe the a's would have allowed Caylee to be abused physically. I do think they loved her......but I guess not enough. ::MonkeyWaa::

My mind goes back to CinCin remarks about trying to get custody of Caylee.  Whether that was a threat she just used toward Casey to get her own way in things, or if she actually tried for that, I dunno.  Makes me wonder what, if anything, may have been happening to cause CinCin to make that threat.  Knowing what we do of CinCin, may have been nothing except her own need for control.  On the other hand.. what if she had good reason?  Her seeming need to control everything around her, incl what seems now to be covering for Casey no matter what, could be why she doesn't come right out and tell media what may have happened before to cause her to threaten getting custody.  Seems she has switched back and forth, from Casey is a bad mama/person to Casey is the mother of the year.   ::MonkeyRoll:: 

   

Good afternoon, monkeys.

It just struck me that Cindy can protect KC all she wants, but the fact is that she went to a therapist to find out how to handle the situation of getting custody of Caylee.  So - Cindy's stuck with the fact that she thought KC was such a bad mother that Cindy should take custoday away from KC.

Another thing that Cindy is stuck with (if we heard the truth) is that the therapist told her to get Caylee in a safe place before Cindy should confont KC about getting custody - Cindy did not get Caylee in a safe place "first".



Hi Puzzler! Yeah, I think Cindy has a lot to feel guilty about and that her defense of Casey is in part to keep from owning some of the guilt!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 02:25:28 PM
Casey's going down!   ::MonkeyDance:: (Sorry........ that just bubbled up)

Anytime I feel discouraged about this case, I remind myself there's hair with a dead ring from the trunk that must be Casey's or Caylee's. Casey's living, so....................

I think a jury can understand that.   ::MonkeyDance::

Music to my ears!!!

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/dca7171053ea3c0b62e35883f9f9.gif)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyDance::



Do you suppose they're available for sentencing day?   ::MonkeyTease::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 13, 2009, 02:27:18 PM

Hi gizzie!!  It's sad how anyone can't love a child enough to want her murderer, no matter who that person is, punished.

Hi Sunny, I will agree with that! So many times during this case, I have tried to put myself in G & CA position, swapping KC with my almost 20 year old daughter, and every single time, I come up with the same conclusion, that I would be there for my daughter, but I would have to be on the prosecution's side the whole time. I would want my daughter punished, no matter how much I love her. Some may disagree, but I was raised to accept responsibility for my actions, and I have raised my children to do the same.

And my daughter has followed this story right along with me. And she knows how I would react if, heaven forbid, we were ever in this type situation. Gee, this made much more sense in my head, lol.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 13, 2009, 02:32:39 PM
I have always wondered about the gap of missing hair between her bangs and pony tail (above her temples) in the last video at the nursing home. In earlier photos it seems like her hair was fuller in that area. Just as the glitter seemed to be leaving her eyes, so did some of her hair leave her scalp. I think that she was probably duct taped prior to that Father's Day. I'm sorry I don't have any of the pictures to show what I mean.


Hi carolb, and welcome!   ::MonkeyDance:: 

I agree with you, have wondered the same things myself. 

And as awful as it is to have heard about the duct tape being used on Caylee, I've since heard about it used in other cases.    ::MonkeyEek::  Makes me wonder what the heck?? 

Also it seems that I'm hearing about more and more 'caregivers' giving children something to make them sleep. 

And I wonder... are these things a new trend amongst 'caregivers' who don't give a rat's patooty, having no patience or understanding, or whatever, of young children?  Or has this kind of thing happened forever, only we're just hearing more about it now cuz of the internet and awareness and instant news reporting, etc.  It sickens me to realize just how many children are being treated in such horrible ways. 

I was in another thread for another child, and trying to remember Jessica Lunsford's name.  So I googled 'child buried alive'.... and OMG a kajillion news items popped up!!!!!   ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyMad::  I had noooooo clue there were so many! 

Anywho.... I'm thinking as well that Caylee had been duct-taped prior to that day.  Could have been so often that she wasn't looking forward anymore to being with Casey alone.  And she may have said something about it to CinCin.  IF that happened, as much as I don't like CinCin, she probably would have been horrified to hear such a thing.  IMO 
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 13, 2009, 02:33:41 PM
Casey's going down!   ::MonkeyDance:: (Sorry........ that just bubbled up)

Anytime I feel discouraged about this case, I remind myself there's hair with a dead ring from the trunk that must be Casey's or Caylee's. Casey's living, so....................

I think a jury can understand that.   ::MonkeyDance::

Music to my ears!!!

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/dca7171053ea3c0b62e35883f9f9.gif)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyDance::



Do you suppose they're available for sentencing day?   ::MonkeyTease::

I'm sure they are & maybe a standing ovation!   ::MonkeyDevil2::   ::MonkeyDevil::

::MonkeyBikeYorkie::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 02:34:57 PM
I wish I knew the circumstances around the way Caylee died. Had she been found earlier, I think that would have come out.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 13, 2009, 02:35:03 PM
Living with Cindy is enough of a factor to convince me that there was emotional abuse to anyone else in the place!

I don't doubt for a moment that Cindy's possesiveness of Caylee and criticism of Casey added to the environment that would result in Caylee's death. The only way I can even kind of understand Cindy's staunch support of Casey is that it's because if Casey is found guilty, she can look in the mirror and take some responsibility, too. JMO!

Yeppers!!  Totally agree! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 02:36:52 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 13, 2009, 02:38:47 PM
Sunny I'm snipping this section of your post.   JMO....kc, dragged Caylee around all hours of the day and night. WE KNOW that from statements of  kc's friends.  Caylee might surely have suffered AT TIMES from being TIRED. We have no proof, not even statements from friends, that Caylee was abused in any way.  In fact, just the opposite! Some friend, can't remember who at the moment and it's not important,  said kc was perhaps, at times, overly protective. Little kids fall and get bruised and yes, they get black eyes.                 


 Exactly, I don't recall anyone say they saw her being abusive to Caylee, not one person. And putting aside my feelings and what I think about George and Cindy, they may be a lot of things, but imo if they saw Casey beating on Caylee I don't think they would have tolerated that, of course I could be wrong.

nrcg...I agree...it is difficult sometimes to put our feelings aside, in this case in particular.  But I do agree......I don't believe the a's would have allowed Caylee to be abused physically. I do think they loved her......but I guess not enough. ::MonkeyWaa::

My mind goes back to CinCin remarks about trying to get custody of Caylee.  Whether that was a threat she just used toward Casey to get her own way in things, or if she actually tried for that, I dunno.  Makes me wonder what, if anything, may have been happening to cause CinCin to make that threat.  Knowing what we do of CinCin, may have been nothing except her own need for control.  On the other hand.. what if she had good reason?  Her seeming need to control everything around her, incl what seems now to be covering for Casey no matter what, could be why she doesn't come right out and tell media what may have happened before to cause her to threaten getting custody.  Seems she has switched back and forth, from Casey is a bad mama/person to Casey is the mother of the year.   ::MonkeyRoll:: 

   

Good afternoon, monkeys.

It just struck me that Cindy can protect KC all she wants, but the fact is that she went to a therapist to find out how to handle the situation of getting custody of Caylee.  So - Cindy's stuck with the fact that she thought KC was such a bad mother that Cindy should take custoday away from KC.

Another thing that Cindy is stuck with (if we heard the truth) is that the therapist told her to get Caylee in a safe place before Cindy should confont KC about getting custody - Cindy did not get Caylee in a safe place "first".



All very true, Puzzler!  IMO too.  And CinCin, no matter what she says publically, has to live with that, for the rest of her life.  That, IMO, will be worse than anything else. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 13, 2009, 02:40:09 PM


Hi carolb, and welcome!   ::MonkeyDance:: 

I agree with you, have wondered the same things myself. 

And as awful as it is to have heard about the duct tape being used on Caylee, I've since heard about it used in other cases.    ::MonkeyEek::  Makes me wonder what the heck?? 

Also it seems that I'm hearing about more and more 'caregivers' giving children something to make them sleep. 

And I wonder... are these things a new trend amongst 'caregivers' who don't give a rat's patooty, having no patience or understanding, or whatever, of young children?  Or has this kind of thing happened forever, only we're just hearing more about it now cuz of the internet and awareness and instant news reporting, etc.  It sickens me to realize just how many children are being treated in such horrible ways. 

I was in another thread for another child, and trying to remember Jessica Lunsford's name.  So I googled 'child buried alive'.... and OMG a kajillion news items popped up!!!!!   ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyMad::  I had noooooo clue there were so many! 

Anywho.... I'm thinking as well that Caylee had been duct-taped prior to that day.  Could have been so often that she wasn't looking forward anymore to being with Casey alone.  And she may have said something about it to CinCin.  IF that happened, as much as I don't like CinCin, she probably would have been horrified to hear such a thing.  IMO 
 

Ugh, this makes me so sad. I'll betcha she was starting to realize when it was time to be with KC, and she knew exactly what was in store for her.  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 13, 2009, 02:40:48 PM

Wyks? You're a great Mom, and you did your best at the time. That's all any of us can do. I believe that Caylee is playing with other children and angels on rainbows, under the Watchful, Loving, and Smiling eyes of God, and that His arms are a favorite place for her. I really do.

Thanks CBB.   ::MonkeyKiss::   ::MonkeyAngel:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Bearlyhere on September 13, 2009, 02:45:15 PM

Hi CBB!   ::MonkeyDance::

I agree, am thinking that at the least, Caylee was emotionally, if not verbally, abused.  Just in how the A's act in public, gosh......... I can only imagine what it must have been like, behind doors.  A child can be emotionally abused (IMO) just sitting in the midst of squabbling adults.  Worse if the fight bet the adults gets physical.  This is why some kids need to have therapy in their later life, even if the only abuse they received was being the witness to other abuse going on around them.  My middle son is one of those.  The squabbling and abuse from his father toward me, scared him so much he would hide under the nearest table.  He remains to this day overly cautious, with a great deal of anxiety.  And that's after 20 years!!  That's emotional abuse, and am betting that at the very least, it was like this with Caylee.  IMO 


I am so sorry you and your son experienced this.  And I do honestly belief Caylee witnessed many arguments and disagreements between kc and the a's. Even when she didn't understand the words, I am betting she understood the tone.

Thanks Sunny.  What I forgot to make clear is that our experiences lasted just a few years, then I kicked his father out, getting a restraining order, etc.  Although the actual trauma to my sons, (each with different experiences), was during those few years, the effects have been long-lasting.  Sigh.  I can look at each son, and trace back to those few years where the effects began.  It's been verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry difficult for me, watching them grow up and become the men they've become, knowing what they've gone and how it's affected them.  My guilt is huge.  And I was one of the victims as well.  Mom's guilt, I guess.  The kind of thing where I asked myself over and over, why didn't I act sooner with the restraining order?  Ahhh well.  Hindsight and all.  All I can do is apologize to them, which I've done, and try to help them not repeat with their own families.  Middle and younger sons are doing fine, each as well as can be expected.  But my oldest?   :gaah:  He is his father's son, cut from the same cloth.  And that's even with 20+ years since he's laid eyes on him.  <cries>  It's such an awful feeling, one that I do try hard daily to shake.  Not easy tho. 

My heart breaks for Caylee.  And as sad sad sad it is that she's no longer on this earth, as horrid as her death must have been........ the more we learn of the A's, the more glad I am that Caylee is in heaven, hopefully tucked safely in the arms of the angels.  IMO 

And also IMO, children are a blessed gift.  It does bring some measure of peace to think that *perhaps* the good Lord looked down, saw how His blessed gift may have been treated, and plucked His gift back from the undeserving mother.  <<<<------- Just my opinion. 


Wyks? You're a great Mom, and you did your best at the time. That's all any of us can do. I believe that Caylee is playing with other children and angels on rainbows, under the Watchful, Loving, and Smiling eyes of God, and that His arms are a favorite place for her. I really do.

Me too, CBB!

Wyks, hindsight is 20/20.  I am sure you did everything you could do at the time.



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Post by: Wyks on September 13, 2009, 02:46:16 PM

Hi gizzie!!  It's sad how anyone can't love a child enough to want her murderer, no matter who that person is, punished.

Hi Sunny, I will agree with that! So many times during this case, I have tried to put myself in G & CA position, swapping KC with my almost 20 year old daughter, and every single time, I come up with the same conclusion, that I would be there for my daughter, but I would have to be on the prosecution's side the whole time. I would want my daughter punished, no matter how much I love her. Some may disagree, but I was raised to accept responsibility for my actions, and I have raised my children to do the same.

And my daughter has followed this story right along with me. And she knows how I would react if, heaven forbid, we were ever in this type situation. Gee, this made much more sense in my head, lol.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

It makes sense!   ::MonkeyWink::  I feel the same way, and other monkeys have related similiar feelings.  It's what I think most moms would feel.  We love our kids and tried to teach them these things, am sure.  But when push comes to shove, standing for what is right, is one of the ultimate ways in showing our love.  Even if it means our child goes down for the count, because of their wrong choices, etc.  We can still support the child, without accepting the behavior/choices, etc.  It's a hard thing to communicate to others, but it does make sense!  IMO



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Post by: Wyks on September 13, 2009, 02:49:01 PM


Hi carolb, and welcome!   ::MonkeyDance:: 

I agree with you, have wondered the same things myself. 

And as awful as it is to have heard about the duct tape being used on Caylee, I've since heard about it used in other cases.    ::MonkeyEek::  Makes me wonder what the heck?? 

Also it seems that I'm hearing about more and more 'caregivers' giving children something to make them sleep. 

And I wonder... are these things a new trend amongst 'caregivers' who don't give a rat's patooty, having no patience or understanding, or whatever, of young children?  Or has this kind of thing happened forever, only we're just hearing more about it now cuz of the internet and awareness and instant news reporting, etc.  It sickens me to realize just how many children are being treated in such horrible ways. 

I was in another thread for another child, and trying to remember Jessica Lunsford's name.  So I googled 'child buried alive'.... and OMG a kajillion news items popped up!!!!!   ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyMad::  I had noooooo clue there were so many! 

Anywho.... I'm thinking as well that Caylee had been duct-taped prior to that day.  Could have been so often that she wasn't looking forward anymore to being with Casey alone.  And she may have said something about it to CinCin.  IF that happened, as much as I don't like CinCin, she probably would have been horrified to hear such a thing.  IMO 
 

Ugh, this makes me so sad. I'll betcha she was starting to realize when it was time to be with KC, and she knew exactly what was in store for her.  ::MonkeyWaa::

Yeah....  ::MonkeyWaa:: 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 13, 2009, 02:54:50 PM

Me too, CBB!

Wyks, hindsight is 20/20.  I am sure you did everything you could do at the time.



Thanks Bearlyhere.   ::MonkeyKiss::   ::MonkeyAngel:: 

I tell myself that, I do.  Yet, the choices I made at the time weren't good enough to make everything all better, no matter that I did all I knew to do.  And that's what I get to live with the rest of my life.  Forgiving myself doesn't seem a good option, not when I watch the effects it all has had, and continues to have, on my sons.   ::MonkeyWaa::  But I work on it.  And they are very forgiving of me.  Not of their father tho.  Not yet.  Maybe one day. 



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Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 13, 2009, 02:57:51 PM

Me too, CBB!

Wyks, hindsight is 20/20.  I am sure you did everything you could do at the time.



Thanks Bearlyhere.   ::MonkeyKiss::   ::MonkeyAngel:: 

I tell myself that, I do.  Yet, the choices I made at the time weren't good enough to make everything all better, no matter that I did all I knew to do.  And that's what I get to live with the rest of my life.  Forgiving myself doesn't seem a good option, not when I watch the effects it all has had, and continues to have, on my sons.   ::MonkeyWaa::  But I work on it.  And they are very forgiving of me.  Not of their father tho.  Not yet.  Maybe one day. 


Wyks  ::MonkeyAngel:: I can tell from reading your posts what a wonderful, thoughtful person you are. I also have made terrible mistakes, at least to me they were, and it is very hard to forgive oneself, all it causes is stress and grief. I guess a person just can't win.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Miki Monkey on September 13, 2009, 03:01:43 PM
Hi Monkeys!   :2doh:  Just stopping by to humbly apologize to Fanny.
 
Fanny said:  “CAYLEE sure had a lot of black eyes in her short lifetime. “  [and]  “Yes, there have been many pictures showing Caylee with obvious black eyes, not just dark circles, under them. The bruises would be on different eyes on different occassions. I had many of them on my photobucket, but deleted them because they upset me so much. Maybe someone who has some complete files of her pictures will post them.”

If I'm reading Capp correctly, she too has seen multiple black(ened) eyes... though I'm not sure if either or both also feel(s) that this is representative of Caylee's entire life. 

Capp said:   [snip] ”There are other pics that I agree her eyes are blackened (seems odd for someone so young & health)”[snip]

I defer to them both, and did not intend any offense, by seeming to question the perception or recollection of a fellow Monkey when I said I do not detect a lifetime of "many" black eyes in the Caylee pictures I have seen. IMO, it is an upsetting topic to consider in the first place, as are so many of the subjects we discuss in this tragic case. I usually try to be tactful and careful, but perhaps it's a good idea for me to try a little harder.   Again, I am sorry.

Hugs to my Monkey friends,
Desi

God Bless Our Caylee.               
 ::MonkeyAngel::               
 :smt049 :smt049 :smt049 :smt049 :smt049               


This post makes me very sad to see.  Why?  Because you are the epitome of tactful, fair, informed and respectful poster, at all times.  There are 3126 members here at SM and for the life of me, I do not know why a few make a valuable poster like you feel as if you need to apologize.  But, I do understand.  I had wanted a month or so ago to make a point about Gail St. John but the majority (which is really only a few posters who take it upon themselves to answer nearly every post) ripped me up, so I still have not written that post and if I feel as I am feeling right now, may never write it. 
I saw where you posted something to the effect of the forum not feeling the same as it once was and thus not as fun.  I see why you wrote that.  I have felt uncomfortable in some of the threads to lately.  The camaraderie and sense of teamwork have given way to the agenda of a few.
I have made some wonderful friends here, but I find my best memories are the times I spend in musings.  I am thinking of yielding to the leaders here or defer to them as you called it and take a break and maybe only post in musings, if at all.  Tupelo asking me today for that post, stirred up a lot of hurt and then when I saw your post - someone who is the most kind hearted, diplomatic poster I have ever seen in a forum, my heart just broke.  Please - never apologize for the open minded, brilliant, and open spirit that comes across in your posts.  You, do not own this.  Best, NewsJunkie

Hang on a second, please I do not wish to be pulled into this even in appearance as "a few" as there is nothing I said or directed toward Desi personally to make her feel badly or wrong about her opinion/view nor was I around a month ago in reference to any new discussion regarding Gail St John.  I needed to clarify that because my name was mentioned above.   Desi knows I and so many of us (i.e. Fanny) that respect her views & appreciate her input to SM very sincerely as with all our friends here.    Its also okay to have a difference of opinion without getting personally offended or developing angst, of course with the exception of flat out unacceptable behavior towards another member.  Mind you I have been mostly absent since my hospitalization/recovery but as I was catching up I didnt come across constant posts making members feel uncomfortable or hurt other than those discussing how they perceive an issue or comment on a personal level.    With all due respect, may I kindly request consideration be made by ALL of us from this point on not post personal issues, grievances or spats on our forum, especially case threads.   The more we have to comment publicly, the more members become involved and/or feel uncomfortable, even if its just witnessing an unpleasant exchange/dispute.  As of this moment & practicing what I am now respectfully suggesting for administrative consideration, it might be best if it became policy to discuss these type of situations privately via email member-to-member as cordial adults and/or amongst admins if their input becomes necessary.   Thanks in advance for everyone's consideration & mutual respect.  Have a blessed Sunday!

Well put Capp, so wonderful to see you back on and posting, we all missed you, a lot  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 13, 2009, 03:05:13 PM
I believe this week we will be hearing from Andrea Lyons  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Gizzie on September 13, 2009, 03:14:43 PM
I believe this week we will be hearing from Andrea Lyons  ::MonkeyEek::

That should be interesting!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Have a good day all!  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 03:15:18 PM
I believe this week we will be hearing from Andrea Lyons  ::MonkeyEek::

This is the hearing over the State going for the death penalty? I've lost track, sorry! If so, I'm thinking this is going to be a real shoot out. Lyons is a much better atty than Baez. I hope Stan's been eating his Wheeties! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 03:16:07 PM
I believe this week we will be hearing from Andrea Lyons  ::MonkeyEek::

That should be interesting!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Have a good day all!  ::MonkeyAngel::

You too, Gizzie!!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 13, 2009, 03:20:47 PM
(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr286/olivegirl/Caylee/l_ace46060efb80d7269b99b646ac9b9d7.jpg)(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr286/olivegirl/Snapshot34.jpg)
I found these two shots of Caylee with the sparse hair that we have been talking about. I'm not sure if it really is just the way her hair is on this day or if she is indeed missing hair. One thing that was mentioned here was her hair possibly falling out due to nerves. I have known people who pull their hair out one hair at a time due to being nervous and they don't even realize they are doing this at the time. My son did this one year in elementary school, only he pulled out his eyebrow hairs.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BluesyGram on September 13, 2009, 03:24:09 PM
I believe this week we will be hearing from Andrea Lyons  ::MonkeyEek::

Is this the week that Lyons is supposed to show us her briefs?   ::puppy::  

And I was wondering who has to write the response or compile the 'evidence' that LDB requested for the 'shared' discovery proving that the body was placed in the woods while KC was incarcerated.
::bee:: ::bee::

 ::MonkeyFootball:: Go Saints!!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 03:26:01 PM

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And also IMO, children are a blessed gift.  It does bring some measure of peace to think that *perhaps* the good Lord looked down, saw how His blessed gift may have been treated, and plucked His gift back from the undeserving mother.  <<<<------- Just my opinion. 


Wyks, I snipped your post because I honestly BELIEVE every mother can look back and wished she had said or done something differently. Children don't come with handbooks for parents.  You are TOPS in my books.

BTW - I agree with your opinion above.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 13, 2009, 03:26:53 PM
I believe this week we will be hearing from Andrea Lyons  ::MonkeyEek::

That should be interesting!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Have a good day all!  ::MonkeyAngel::
You too  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 13, 2009, 03:28:22 PM
I believe this week we will be hearing from Andrea Lyons  ::MonkeyEek::

This is the hearing over the State going for the death penalty? I've lost track, sorry! If so, I'm thinking this is going to be a real shoot out. Lyons is a much better atty than Baez. I hope Stan's been eating his Wheeties! 
Yes, and it should be interesting  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 03:28:55 PM

Me too, CBB!

Wyks, hindsight is 20/20.  I am sure you did everything you could do at the time.



Thanks Bearlyhere.   ::MonkeyKiss::   ::MonkeyAngel:: 

I tell myself that, I do.  Yet, the choices I made at the time weren't good enough to make everything all better, no matter that I did all I knew to do.  And that's what I get to live with the rest of my life.  Forgiving myself doesn't seem a good option, not when I watch the effects it all has had, and continues to have, on my sons.   ::MonkeyWaa::  But I work on it.  And they are very forgiving of me.  Not of their father tho.  Not yet.  Maybe one day. 



Wyks, with all my heart, I believe that All Things work for good for those who love the Lord and are called according to His purpose. You did your best at the time, and now it's a choice for your children to make, but I believe the promise that whatever they bring to that choice can work for their good. You can't make the choice for them and you're not responsible for whatever they choose either.

Sorry............. it's Sunday and I promise no more sermonettes! In a way though, your circumstances are related to this case. The dynamics within the Anthony household had a tragic outcome. Even though I'm in no way removing accountability from Casey, I believe that Cindy is toxic and that Cindy greased the wheels of what happened. Casey made choices and they were bad ones. Casey chose to lie about working. Casey chose to steal rather than earn a paycheck. Casey chose herself over her daughter. Casey chose to stay and take the heat rather than sacrifice for her daughter.    ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 03:28:58 PM


Good afternoon, monkeys.

It just struck me that Cindy can protect KC all she wants, but the fact is that she went to a therapist to find out how to handle the situation of getting custody of Caylee.  So - Cindy's stuck with the fact that she thought KC was such a bad mother that Cindy should take custoday away from KC.

Another thing that Cindy is stuck with (if we heard the truth) is that the therapist told her to get Caylee in a safe place before Cindy should confont KC about getting custody - Cindy did not get Caylee in a safe place "first".

Hi Puzzler!  So glad you brought this up. Wish these conversations could be brought out in court....and perhaps it will be touched on...without breaking any HIPPA laws.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 03:29:58 PM
Living with Cindy is enough of a factor to convince me that there was emotional abuse to anyone else in the place!

I don't doubt for a moment that Cindy's possesiveness of Caylee and criticism of Casey added to the environment that would result in Caylee's death. The only way I can even kind of understand Cindy's staunch support of Casey is that it's because if Casey is found guilty, she can look in the mirror and take some responsibility, too. JMO!

CBB - I agree with your bolded statement above totally.

Sunny - O/T - I always notice your big girl panties smilie...wouldn't it be cute if we had a monkey "big girl panties"..

 ::MonkeyJnBox:: ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 13, 2009, 03:30:40 PM
tupelohoney thanks for the pictures, yes I've know people who have done that, when I was a kid, the kid across the street use to hit his head back and forth on the couch and he had a bald spot from doing that. I really don't know why her hair was like that, maybe just thin hair.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 03:32:35 PM
I believe this week we will be hearing from Andrea Lyons  ::MonkeyEek::

This is the hearing over the State going for the death penalty? I've lost track, sorry! If so, I'm thinking this is going to be a real shoot out. Lyons is a much better atty than Baez. I hope Stan's been eating his Wheeties! 
Yes, and it should be interesting  ::MonkeyEek::

My bet is she's going to set up this scenario: "What PROVES that Casey didn't simply dispose of Caylee's body after an accidental death?"

Then she'll argue that placing the burden of premeditated murder with so little evidence that Casey killed her at all, is inappropriate. JMO.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 03:34:04 PM

Hi gizzie!!  It's sad how anyone can't love a child enough to want her murderer, no matter who that person is, punished.

Hi Sunny, I will agree with that! So many times during this case, I have tried to put myself in G & CA position, swapping KC with my almost 20 year old daughter, and every single time, I come up with the same conclusion, that I would be there for my daughter, but I would have to be on the prosecution's side the whole time. I would want my daughter punished, no matter how much I love her. Some may disagree, but I was raised to accept responsibility for my actions, and I have raised my children to do the same.

And my daughter has followed this story right along with me. And she knows how I would react if, heaven forbid, we were ever in this type situation. Gee, this made much more sense in my head, lol.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

LOL.....I know it would be EXTREMELY difficult for me to even think for a brief second that my son could harm a child. But if he did I am fairly sure I would feel the same as you. Being a single parent I was tough on him and he knew early on that  actions had a consequence....good or bad. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 03:36:44 PM
I wish I knew the circumstances around the way Caylee died. Had she been found earlier, I think that would have come out.

CBB I go back and forth from wanting to know to not wanting to know. I PREFER to think she dies peacefully in her sleep...then that damn duct tape pops up and I shiver with fear.....fear for what she might have gone through at the hands of her own Mother.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 03:39:17 PM
I wish I knew the circumstances around the way Caylee died. Had she been found earlier, I think that would have come out.

CBB I go back and forth from wanting to know to not wanting to know. I PREFER to think she dies peacefully in her sleep...then that damn duct tape pops up and I shiver with fear.....fear for what she might have gone through at the hands of her own Mother.

I know, Sunny, me too. Simply for the State's case, I wish there were more forensics that probably would have been available had she been found earlier.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BluesyGram on September 13, 2009, 03:42:35 PM
I believe this week we will be hearing from Andrea Lyons  ::MonkeyEek::

This is the hearing over the State going for the death penalty? I've lost track, sorry! If so, I'm thinking this is going to be a real shoot out. Lyons is a much better atty than Baez. I hope Stan's been eating his Wheeties! 
Yes, and it should be interesting  ::MonkeyEek::

My bet is she's going to set up this scenario: "What PROVES that Casey didn't simply dispose of Caylee's body after an accidental death?"

Then she'll argue that placing the burden of premeditated murder with so little evidence that Casey killed her at all, is inappropriate. JMO.



You're correct CBB IMO...just a rerun of Lenamon's 'brief' on the same subject last year.  Wonder if we will see those IMO haunting pictures of KC that he included?  







Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 03:43:45 PM
(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr286/olivegirl/Caylee/l_ace46060efb80d7269b99b646ac9b9d7.jpg)(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr286/olivegirl/Snapshot34.jpg)
I found these two shots of Caylee with the sparse hair that we have been talking about. I'm not sure if it really is just the way her hair is on this day or if she is indeed missing hair. One thing that was mentioned here was her hair possibly falling out due to nerves. I have known people who pull their hair out one hair at a time due to being nervous and they don't even realize they are doing this at the time. My son did this one year in elementary school, only he pulled out his eyebrow hairs.  ::MonkeyEek::

I have a cousin who suffers from this aliment. It is called trichotillomania. She has had it since her early 20's til this day. she is going to be 58 this year. She has worn wigs for nearly 30 years and has to draw eyebrows on and has no eyelashes. Having had some exposure to the disease, I do not believe Caylee suffered this ailment.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/trichotillomania/DS00895


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 03:45:19 PM
I believe this week we will be hearing from Andrea Lyons  ::MonkeyEek::

Is this the week that Lyons is supposed to show us her briefs?   ::puppy::  

And I was wondering who has to write the response or compile the 'evidence' that LDB requested for the 'shared' discovery proving that the body was placed in the woods while KC was incarcerated.
::bee:: ::bee::

 ::MonkeyFootball:: Go Saints!!



Hi Bluesy....it's gonna get more and more interesting isn't it ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 03:46:12 PM
I believe this week we will be hearing from Andrea Lyons  ::MonkeyEek::

This is the hearing over the State going for the death penalty? I've lost track, sorry! If so, I'm thinking this is going to be a real shoot out. Lyons is a much better atty than Baez. I hope Stan's been eating his Wheeties! 
Yes, and it should be interesting  ::MonkeyEek::

My bet is she's going to set up this scenario: "What PROVES that Casey didn't simply dispose of Caylee's body after an accidental death?"

Then she'll argue that placing the burden of premeditated murder with so little evidence that Casey killed her at all, is inappropriate. JMO.



You're correct CBB IMO...just a rerun of Lenamon's 'brief' on the same subject last year.  Wonder if we will see those IMO haunting pictures of KC that he included?  







Hi Bluesy!!   ::MonkeyDance:: Ohhhhh, take a drag for me, will you?   ::MonkeyWink::

I really think this upcoming hearing is going to be hard fought, and I'm hoping the State is ready for it! I agree with your observations, too!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: carolb on September 13, 2009, 03:46:59 PM
Actually re-looking at these photos, I don't think there is a bald spot like I thought there was. Thanks for posting them Tupelohoney.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 13, 2009, 03:49:05 PM

  SNIPPED:
And also IMO, children are a blessed gift.  It does bring some measure of peace to think that *perhaps* the good Lord looked down, saw how His blessed gift may have been treated, and plucked His gift back from the undeserving mother.  <<<<------- Just my opinion. 


Wyks, I snipped your post because I honestly BELIEVE every mother can look back and wished she had said or done something differently. Children don't come with handbooks for parents.  You are TOPS in my books.

BTW - I agree with your opinion above.

Thanks Sunny.   ::MonkeyKiss::   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 03:49:20 PM
I wish I knew the circumstances around the way Caylee died. Had she been found earlier, I think that would have come out.

CBB I go back and forth from wanting to know to not wanting to know. I PREFER to think she dies peacefully in her sleep...then that damn duct tape pops up and I shiver with fear.....fear for what she might have gone through at the hands of her own Mother.

I know, Sunny, me too. Simply for the State's case, I wish there were more forensics that probably would have been available had she been found earlier.

Oh, you are so right!!  COD would be HUGE for the prosecution!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 03:49:50 PM
Actually re-looking at these photos, I don't think there is a bald spot like I thought there was. Thanks for posting them Tupelohoney.

It sort of looks like her hairline, doesn't it?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: carolb on September 13, 2009, 03:51:53 PM
Actually re-looking at these photos, I don't think there is a bald spot like I thought there was. Thanks for posting them Tupelohoney.

It sort of looks like her hairline, doesn't it?

It sure does CBB


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on September 13, 2009, 03:59:00 PM
I wish I knew the circumstances around the way Caylee died. Had she been found earlier, I think that would have come out.

CBB I go back and forth from wanting to know to not wanting to know. I PREFER to think she dies peacefully in her sleep...then that damn duct tape pops up and I shiver with fear.....fear for what she might have gone through at the hands of her own Mother.

I know, Sunny, me too. Simply for the State's case, I wish there were more forensics that probably would have been available had she been found earlier.

Oh, you are so right!!  COD would be HUGE for the prosecution!!



Yes, COD would wrap up this case, but what IF, and it’s big IF…..What if the hair stuck to the duct tape contained both hair from an alive Caylee and hair with the death band showing a deceased Caylee. Would that not prove Caylee was alive when the tape was placed over her mouth and nose? Just grasping here……..


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BluesyGram on September 13, 2009, 04:01:06 PM
I believe this week we will be hearing from Andrea Lyons  ::MonkeyEek::

Is this the week that Lyons is supposed to show us her briefs?   ::puppy::  

And I was wondering who has to write the response or compile the 'evidence' that LDB requested for the 'shared' discovery proving that the body was placed in the woods while KC was incarcerated.
::bee:: ::bee::

 ::MonkeyFootball:: Go Saints!!



Hi Bluesy....it's gonna get more and more interesting isn't it ::MonkeyWink::

I'll say it sure will!!!  One of Lyon's arguments has been taken away by Stan the Man letting the Check/Bank Fraud case go forth.  They won't be able to say...'no priors'.  

Have to say I am so looking forward to this week as we should also see a response to Mr. Mitniks' 'Calling BS on DC' motion.  Wonder if Rodriguez will get PO'd at being lied to under oath in his 'public' hearing?


 ::MonkeyJustice::




Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 04:05:44 PM
I wish I knew the circumstances around the way Caylee died. Had she been found earlier, I think that would have come out.

CBB I go back and forth from wanting to know to not wanting to know. I PREFER to think she dies peacefully in her sleep...then that damn duct tape pops up and I shiver with fear.....fear for what she might have gone through at the hands of her own Mother.

I know, Sunny, me too. Simply for the State's case, I wish there were more forensics that probably would have been available had she been found earlier.

Oh, you are so right!!  COD would be HUGE for the prosecution!!



Yes, COD would wrap up this case, but what IF, and it’s big IF…..What if the hair stuck to the duct tape contained both hair from an alive Caylee and hair with the death band showing a deceased Caylee. Would that not prove Caylee was alive when the tape was placed over her mouth and nose? Just grasping here……..

 ::MonkeyEek:: Wow! That's a good grasp, N2WISHIN! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 04:06:40 PM
OK........... I'll ask. What's COD? 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on September 13, 2009, 04:12:54 PM
OK........... I'll ask. What's COD? 



Cause Of Death=suffocation

Think about this too, in my opinion LE had to have something really solid in order to bring back the DP.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 13, 2009, 04:14:26 PM
OK........... I'll ask. What's COD? 



Cause Of Death=suffocation

Think about this too, in my opinion LE had to have something really solid in order to bring back the DP.

And in addition, I'm still holding out hope for Casey's fingerprints on the tape she placed on Caylee.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on September 13, 2009, 04:16:29 PM
OK........... I'll ask. What's COD? 



Cause Of Death=suffocation

Think about this too, in my opinion LE had to have something really solid in order to bring back the DP.

And in addition, I'm still holding out hope for Casey's fingerprints on the tape she placed on Caylee.



I'm hoping right along with you......


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 13, 2009, 04:16:44 PM

Wyks, with all my heart, I believe that All Things work for good for those who love the Lord and are called according to His purpose. You did your best at the time, and now it's a choice for your children to make, but I believe the promise that whatever they bring to that choice can work for their good. You can't make the choice for them and you're not responsible for whatever they choose either.

Sorry............. it's Sunday and I promise no more sermonettes! In a way though, your circumstances are related to this case. The dynamics within the Anthony household had a tragic outcome. Even though I'm in no way removing accountability from Casey, I believe that Cindy is toxic and that Cindy greased the wheels of what happened. Casey made choices and they were bad ones. Casey chose to lie about working. Casey chose to steal rather than earn a paycheck. Casey chose herself over her daughter. Casey chose to stay and take the heat rather than sacrifice for her daughter.    ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thanks CBB.  I agree with what you've said.  And for the most part, 2/3 of my sons have chosen well.  I can only hope and pray that my oldest doesn't cause our family to be a discussion on these boards someday in the future.  Sigh.  Guess we can each hope and pray that our kids makes good choices in life, so that none of us are discussed like this.  Guess I'm drawn to cases such as these, cuz if it weren't for the grace of God, there go I. 

It's very true about Casey.  Am quite sure that growing up with CinCin was no picnic, however, Casey had options in life, her own choices to make.  Just as anyone of us when we grow up and have children of our own, etc.  I've read discussions on when an abused child grows up, how they relate to their world as an adult.  The heredity vs. environment thing.  I've come to understand that it's a mixture of each.  Else why would my oldest, who hasn't seen or been around his father in 20+ years, turn out exactly like him? 

And in looking at Casey and her parents, we can see where she gets some of her attitudes/behaviors.  But are her parents to blame for what happened to Caylee, because of the way they seemingly raised Casey?  Perhaps in part, ultimately.  And yet, IMO, the direct responsibility would be on Casey, not her family, because of her own choices in whatever happened.  Plenty of abused kids have grown up and not continued the abuse, certainly not killed their own kids.    Many, even if angry with their own parents, have not turned out to be so very spiteful as Casey seems to have.  I think that's on her, not anyone else. 

Heck, I dunno.  Maybe it's my wishful thinking that parents aren't wholly to blame for how their child turns out.  I have come to accept that I do have an anti-social/sociopath oldest son.  Which I've tried to avoid having since his first sign of that at 6 years.  But it happened, despite my very best efforts, and those of his doctor/s.  So it isn't all the parents fault, but there are things that happen in the past, based on the parents choices at the time, which affect the outcome for the child's future in adulthood.  It's such a confusing thing!  Not sure I'm explaining it very well. 

I don't want to make excuses for Casey... nor do I want to make excuses for CinCin.  And I sure don't want to make excuses for myself or my oldest if something awful were to happen down the road.  It's sooooo close to home, having a son who is a male version of Casey, with a son of his own.   ::MonkeyEek::  Scary thoughts.... of what MIGHT happen, and praying of course, that it doesn't. 
 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 13, 2009, 04:17:03 PM
OK........... I'll ask. What's COD? 



Cause Of Death=suffocation

Think about this too, in my opinion LE had to have something really solid in order to bring back the DP.
I agree with you and whatever they have I feel it was found at the remains scene. It didn't take long for all the testing to come back, along with the autopsy for them to put it back on the table. I feel so strongly that the state has the goods and Casey will be found guilty of murder, whether she had help or someone else disposed of the body or not.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BluesyGram on September 13, 2009, 04:17:22 PM
I believe this week we will be hearing from Andrea Lyons  ::MonkeyEek::

This is the hearing over the State going for the death penalty? I've lost track, sorry! If so, I'm thinking this is going to be a real shoot out. Lyons is a much better atty than Baez. I hope Stan's been eating his Wheeties! 
Yes, and it should be interesting  ::MonkeyEek::

My bet is she's going to set up this scenario: "What PROVES that Casey didn't simply dispose of Caylee's body after an accidental death?"

Then she'll argue that placing the burden of premeditated murder with so little evidence that Casey killed her at all, is inappropriate. JMO.



You're correct CBB IMO...just a rerun of Lenamon's 'brief' on the same subject last year.  Wonder if we will see those IMO haunting pictures of KC that he included?  







Hi Bluesy!!   ::MonkeyDance:: Ohhhhh, take a drag for me, will you?   ::MonkeyWink::

I really think this upcoming hearing is going to be hard fought, and I'm hoping the State is ready for it! I agree with your observations, too!


CBB...you did such an awesome job on my Halloween avi...I think I will keep it year round.  Love the skeleton smoke rings.  LOL ::MonkeyCheer2::

I really think when the state decided to put the DP back on the table that they knew a really  'high profile' atty. would be brought in to 'fight' it and that perhaps is one of the reasons they did bring the DP back.  If Baez was allowed to continue IMO as the 'lead' atty., KC would have definately had 'ground's IMO to put 'ineffectiveness of counsel' in her appeal.   IMO it is really difficult for them to file a 'counter' to the death penalty without admiting KC had a hand in the death of Caylee.    

  


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 04:17:41 PM
OK........... I'll ask. What's COD? 



Cause Of Death=suffocation

Think about this too, in my opinion LE had to have something really solid in order to bring back the DP.

Thanks, N2WISHIN! I hope you're right, and think you probably are. I admit it has occurred to me that maybe they were hoping to save the state some money and hoopla by going for premeditated in hopes it woud encourage a plea for life. I don't think the State would accept anything less than that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 04:20:24 PM
OK........... I'll ask. What's COD? 



Cause Of Death=suffocation

Think about this too, in my opinion LE had to have something really solid in order to bring back the DP.
I agree with you and whatever they have I feel it was found at the remains scene. It didn't take long for all the testing to come back, along with the autopsy for them to put it back on the table. I feel so strongly that the state has the goods and Casey will be found guilty of murder, whether she had help or someone else disposed of the body or not.

 ::MonkeyDance:: Oh, you SA-WEET talker, you!   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

You encourage me, tupleohoney!!! 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 13, 2009, 04:20:53 PM
OK........... I'll ask. What's COD? 



Cause Of Death=suffocation

Think about this too, in my opinion LE had to have something really solid in order to bring back the DP.

And in addition, I'm still holding out hope for Casey's fingerprints on the tape she placed on Caylee.



I'm hoping right along with you......

 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Wyks on September 13, 2009, 04:21:46 PM
OK........... I'll ask. What's COD? 



Cause Of Death=suffocation

Think about this too, in my opinion LE had to have something really solid in order to bring back the DP.
I agree with you and whatever they have I feel it was found at the remains scene. It didn't take long for all the testing to come back, along with the autopsy for them to put it back on the table. I feel so strongly that the state has the goods and Casey will be found guilty of murder, whether she had help or someone else disposed of the body or not.

I agree with this.  It was put back on the table right away, so am thinking they do have something solid. 


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: crazybabyborg on September 13, 2009, 04:22:17 PM
I believe this week we will be hearing from Andrea Lyons  ::MonkeyEek::

This is the hearing over the State going for the death penalty? I've lost track, sorry! If so, I'm thinking this is going to be a real shoot out. Lyons is a much better atty than Baez. I hope Stan's been eating his Wheeties! 
Yes, and it should be interesting  ::MonkeyEek::

My bet is she's going to set up this scenario: "What PROVES that Casey didn't simply dispose of Caylee's body after an accidental death?"

Then she'll argue that placing the burden of premeditated murder with so little evidence that Casey killed her at all, is inappropriate. JMO.



You're correct CBB IMO...just a rerun of Lenamon's 'brief' on the same subject last year.  Wonder if we will see those IMO haunting pictures of KC that he included?  







Hi Bluesy!!   ::MonkeyDance:: Ohhhhh, take a drag for me, will you?   ::MonkeyWink::

I really think this upcoming hearing is going to be hard fought, and I'm hoping the State is ready for it! I agree with your observations, too!


CBB...you did such an awesome job on my Halloween avi...I think I will keep it year round.  Love the skeleton smoke rings.  LOL ::MonkeyCheer2::

I really think when the state decided to put the DP back on the table that they knew a really  'high profile' atty. would be brought in to 'fight' it and that perhaps is one of the reasons they did bring the DP back.  If Baez was allowed to continue IMO as the 'lead' atty., KC would have definately had 'ground's IMO to put 'ineffectiveness of counsel' in her appeal.   IMO it is really difficult for them to file a 'counter' to the death penalty without admiting KC had a hand in the death of Caylee.    

  

I suppose in December we could hang bells and put a Santa Hat or something on your ghoul!   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: San on September 13, 2009, 04:27:57 PM
OK........... I'll ask. What's COD? 



Cause Of Death=suffocation

Think about this too, in my opinion LE had to have something really solid in order to bring back the DP.

And in addition, I'm still holding out hope for Casey's fingerprints on the tape she placed on Caylee.

Me too.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 13, 2009, 04:30:42 PM


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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: N2WISHN on September 13, 2009, 04:37:28 PM
OK........... I'll ask. What's COD? 



Cause Of Death=suffocation

Think about this too, in my opinion LE had to have something really solid in order to bring back the DP.

Thanks, N2WISHIN! I hope you're right, and think you probably are. I admit it has occurred to me that maybe they were hoping to save the state some money and hoopla by going for premeditated in hopes it woud encourage a plea for life. I don't think the State would accept anything less than that.



Since I'm "what ifing" here, I'll go a step further too. What if LE can also prove Caylee was being abused in any number of ways. We've all commented on how she lacked any expression of childlike joy in the pictures close to the time of her death. Surely LE saw the same.
When I see how lightly our system treats many child abuse and murder cases, it makes me wonder just what is so different about Caylee’s case.  It would seem that there must be some aggravating circumstances they are applying.  I’m doubtful there was an insurance policy or the like, so what could it be?  Was there something sordid, sinister and heinous happening to Caylee aside from being duct taped and thrown in the trunk?


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Ono on September 13, 2009, 04:49:08 PM


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This is particularly lovely Cece.   I so enjoy all your work.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: San on September 13, 2009, 04:53:40 PM
OK........... I'll ask. What's COD? 

Cause Of Death=suffocation

Think about this too, in my opinion LE had to have something really solid in order to bring back the DP.

Thanks, N2WISHIN! I hope you're right, and think you probably are. I admit it has occurred to me that maybe they were hoping to save the state some money and hoopla by going for premeditated in hopes it woud encourage a plea for life. I don't think the State would accept anything less than that.

Since I'm "what ifing" here, I'll go a step further too. What if LE can also prove Caylee was being abused in any number of ways. We've all commented on how she lacked any expression of childlike joy in the pictures close to the time of her death. Surely LE saw the same.
When I see how lightly our system treats many child abuse and murder cases, it makes me wonder just what is so different about Caylee’s case.  It would seem that there must be some aggravating circumstances they are applying.  I’m doubtful there was an insurance policy or the like, so what could it be?  Was there something sordid, sinister and heinous happening to Caylee aside from being duct taped and thrown in the trunk?

This is just my opinion but I don't think there was something sinister and heinous happening.  I think Caylee was abused and neglected by Casey when she wasn't in the presence of Cindy.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 13, 2009, 04:56:08 PM
I believe this week we will be hearing from Andrea Lyons  ::MonkeyEek::

This is the hearing over the State going for the death penalty? I've lost track, sorry! If so, I'm thinking this is going to be a real shoot out. Lyons is a much better atty than Baez. I hope Stan's been eating his Wheeties! 
Yes, and it should be interesting  ::MonkeyEek::

My bet is she's going to set up this scenario: "What PROVES that Casey didn't simply dispose of Caylee's body after an accidental death?"

Then she'll argue that placing the burden of premeditated murder with so little evidence that Casey killed her at all, is inappropriate. JMO.
We are on the same page, I believe that is exactly what she is going to say.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: no rose colored glasses on September 13, 2009, 04:57:58 PM
Actually re-looking at these photos, I don't think there is a bald spot like I thought there was. Thanks for posting them Tupelohoney.
It kind of looks like she has baby fine hair, and that's why it looks like that.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 05:33:42 PM
OK........... I'll ask. What's COD? 



Cause Of Death=suffocation

Think about this too, in my opinion LE had to have something really solid in order to bring back the DP.
N2 - me too. I THINK they have a whole lot.  They talked about plant growth through the bones. I am sure they can determine how long it took for the plant growth the grow through. We still haven't heard anything about the...ugh...maggots. I just have to believe there is so much MORE than we are aware of.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 05:34:56 PM
OK........... I'll ask. What's COD? 



Cause Of Death=suffocation

Think about this too, in my opinion LE had to have something really solid in order to bring back the DP.

And in addition, I'm still holding out hope for Casey's fingerprints on the tape she placed on Caylee.

cece, me too!  We heard none of the other a's fingerprints were on it...but NOTHING about whether kc's was or not


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 05:38:57 PM
OK........... I'll ask. What's COD? 



Cause Of Death=suffocation

Think about this too, in my opinion LE had to have something really solid in order to bring back the DP.

And in addition, I'm still holding out hope for Casey's fingerprints on the tape she placed on Caylee.

Me too.

Hey San!! :2waver:


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 05:40:56 PM
OK........... I'll ask. What's COD? 

Cause Of Death=suffocation

Think about this too, in my opinion LE had to have something really solid in order to bring back the DP.

Thanks, N2WISHIN! I hope you're right, and think you probably are. I admit it has occurred to me that maybe they were hoping to save the state some money and hoopla by going for premeditated in hopes it woud encourage a plea for life. I don't think the State would accept anything less than that.

Since I'm "what ifing" here, I'll go a step further too. What if LE can also prove Caylee was being abused in any number of ways. We've all commented on how she lacked any expression of childlike joy in the pictures close to the time of her death. Surely LE saw the same.
When I see how lightly our system treats many child abuse and murder cases, it makes me wonder just what is so different about Caylee’s case.  It would seem that there must be some aggravating circumstances they are applying.  I’m doubtful there was an insurance policy or the like, so what could it be?  Was there something sordid, sinister and heinous happening to Caylee aside from being duct taped and thrown in the trunk?

This is just my opinion but I don't think there was something sinister and heinous happening.  I think Caylee was abused and neglected by Casey when she wasn't in the presence of Cindy.

San, that is my opinion as well. I have to be think if there was anything visible sin-sin would have seen it.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: San on September 13, 2009, 05:41:53 PM
OK........... I'll ask. What's COD? 



Cause Of Death=suffocation

Think about this too, in my opinion LE had to have something really solid in order to bring back the DP.

And in addition, I'm still holding out hope for Casey's fingerprints on the tape she placed on Caylee.

Me too.

Hey San!! :2waver:

Hi Sunny good to see you.  ::MonkeyDogWalk::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BluesyGram on September 13, 2009, 05:43:22 PM
I believe this week we will be hearing from Andrea Lyons  ::MonkeyEek::

This is the hearing over the State going for the death penalty? I've lost track, sorry! If so, I'm thinking this is going to be a real shoot out. Lyons is a much better atty than Baez. I hope Stan's been eating his Wheeties! 
Yes, and it should be interesting  ::MonkeyEek::

My bet is she's going to set up this scenario: "What PROVES that Casey didn't simply dispose of Caylee's body after an accidental death?"

Then she'll argue that placing the burden of premeditated murder with so little evidence that Casey killed her at all, is inappropriate. JMO.
We are on the same page, I believe that is exactly what she is going to say.

Isn't that what Lenamon put in his argument?  And, IMO..that would be an admission that she had some involvement.  This family are pros at pointing the finger & blame elsewhere and I don't see any admission of guilt for anything ever coming down the pipe.  Didn't Cindy say emphatically said that KC wouldn't have done that when she was asked about that scenario.  

Also, how can they explain the computer searches about missing children, chloroform, etc.?  And the party hardy, like she was so relieved?  And decorating the corpse..how creepy can you get?  OMG...she is so going down for this IMO.

 ::MonkeyJustice:: ::MonkeyToot::..(St. Gabriel blow that horn)



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: San on September 13, 2009, 05:44:46 PM
OK........... I'll ask. What's COD? 

Cause Of Death=suffocation

Think about this too, in my opinion LE had to have something really solid in order to bring back the DP.

Thanks, N2WISHIN! I hope you're right, and think you probably are. I admit it has occurred to me that maybe they were hoping to save the state some money and hoopla by going for premeditated in hopes it woud encourage a plea for life. I don't think the State would accept anything less than that.

Since I'm "what ifing" here, I'll go a step further too. What if LE can also prove Caylee was being abused in any number of ways. We've all commented on how she lacked any expression of childlike joy in the pictures close to the time of her death. Surely LE saw the same.
When I see how lightly our system treats many child abuse and murder cases, it makes me wonder just what is so different about Caylee’s case.  It would seem that there must be some aggravating circumstances they are applying.  I’m doubtful there was an insurance policy or the like, so what could it be?  Was there something sordid, sinister and heinous happening to Caylee aside from being duct taped and thrown in the trunk?

This is just my opinion but I don't think there was something sinister and heinous happening.  I think Caylee was abused and neglected by Casey when she wasn't in the presence of Cindy.

San, that is my opinion as well. I have to be think if there was anything visible sin-sin would have seen it.

As much as I hate both Casey and Cindy I believe Cindy would have punched Casey's lights out if she caught her harming Caylee at the moment.  Casey probably explained the bruises we see under Caylee's eye in some pictures as she fell while playing and Cindy believed her.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Nut44x4 on September 13, 2009, 05:48:58 PM
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BUMP


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 13, 2009, 06:00:29 PM
Thanks Nut!  I don't know where Trimm is with our transportation, but we may have to hail a cab!

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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: San on September 13, 2009, 06:01:20 PM
Thanks Nut!  I don't know where Trimm is with our transportation, but we may have to hail a cab!

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How cute.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 13, 2009, 06:05:20 PM
Sweet Caylee......



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 13, 2009, 06:07:18 PM
Thanks Nut!  I don't know where Trimm is with our transportation, but we may have to hail a cab!

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How cute.

 ::MonkeyAngel::   ::CowWave::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 13, 2009, 06:10:39 PM
Sweet!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 13, 2009, 06:11:05 PM
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Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: San on September 13, 2009, 06:13:19 PM
Let's keep going until we get to page 100 so I can lock this thread  ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer4::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BluesyGram on September 13, 2009, 06:13:45 PM
Sweet Caylee......



Now this picture for sure shows the transformation in contrast in Caylee's expressions.  I don't remember seeing any of her latest pictures with a smile like this.  This realization is so very sad and heartbreaking.  Thanks Karma for posting.   ::MonkeyAngel::



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BluesyGram on September 13, 2009, 06:15:04 PM
Let's keep going until we get to page 100 so I can lock this thread  ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer4::

Trying.  Not too many of us here.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 13, 2009, 06:15:23 PM
OT, but news about missing child Hassani Campbell:

http://www.ktvu.com/news/20891590/detail.html

Clothing Similar To That Worn By Missing 5-Year-Old Found In Oakland

Posted: 2:23 pm PDT September 13, 2009Updated: 2:58 pm PDT September 13, 2009

OAKLAND, Calif. -- Volunteers searching for missing 5-year-old Hasanni Campbell have discovered clothes similar to those the boy disappeared in over a month ago at the dead-end of a road in Oakland.

The search volunteers found a grey sweatshirt, a red sock, and other children's clothes partially buried at the end of Chabot Road in Oakland, according to Oakland police sgt. Arturo Bautista.

The volunteers immediately contacted Oakland police, who have since roped off the area.
<snip>

Link to Hassani Campbell thread at Scared Monkeys:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5911.msg942157#msg942157


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 13, 2009, 06:15:35 PM
Going down Memory Lane:

RECAP: Cindyisms!

Here are some Cindyism that were said from July -September 2008!  Of course these are not all of them!

~If Casey cannot trust the authorities with the truth then the people have to find Caylee so that we can sort the truth out after Caylee has been found.

~There was a bag of pizza for, what, 12 days in the back of the car, full of maggots. It stunk so bad. You know how hot it’s been. That smell was terrible.

~She’s leading me to a place, but she’s not telling me to the right exact location to which apartment it is because she’s afraid, if someone walks in, that something may happen to Caylee.

~My daughter may have some mistruths out there, or half-truths, but she’s not a murderer.

~Get off your arses and look for my granddaughter. I don’t care if this is on the news or what. She’s out there.

~We’ve all made mistakes. But right now, she’s not making a mistake. She’s protecting her child. And no one can say or second-guess what you’re going to do to protect your child when you fear for their safety.

~Here is what she says about the media in one breath:  I’m going to do whatever it takes to take advantage of the media, and if it continues to drag our family through the mud and whatever, as long as Caylee’s picture is out there every day and that picture gets ingrained on everybody’s brain and they look — as long as they don’t give up, she’s coming home. She might come home this afternoon. She may come home tomorrow. I hope she’s home by Saturday. If she’s not, you know what? I’m not giving up just because her birthday’s Saturday.

http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2009/09/13/recap-cindyisms-2/


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 13, 2009, 06:16:08 PM
More sweetness



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: San on September 13, 2009, 06:17:06 PM
Let's keep going until we get to page 100 so I can lock this thread  ::MonkeyCheer3:: ::MonkeyCheer4::

Trying.  Not too many of us here.


We'll get there.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 13, 2009, 06:18:05 PM
Sweet Caylee......



Now this picture for sure shows the transformation in contrast in Caylee's expressions.  I don't remember seeing any of her latest pictures with a smile like this.  This realization is so very sad and heartbreaking.  Thanks Karma for posting.   ::MonkeyAngel::


You're very welcome Bluesy



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: San on September 13, 2009, 06:19:13 PM
This picture is so cute.

(http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5980.0;attach=9667;image)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 13, 2009, 06:19:13 PM
I found this info on another forum.......anyone know about this and/or how to find out about the warrant and what ZG hasn't paid? I tried searching Seminole Co. records, as that is where Sanford is located, but I didn't find anything that showed her owing 'court obligations'. The person who posted this has pneumonia now and is not posting for me to ask.

Zenaida has a warrant for her arrest and has had said warrant since 2005.

I am surprised that they didn't make her take care of that little problem-o when LE talked to her.  I mean, they did run her through their DMV and according to the DMV, her driver's license is suspended/denied/revoked as of 8/29/2005 for failure to pay court obligations.

If you want to check for yourself this is her DL number

G524980708610 - as per the documents.

and you can look it up here at this web site

https://www6.hsmv.state.fl.us/DLCheck/dl/pages/dlCheck.jsp



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BluesyGram on September 13, 2009, 06:19:32 PM
OT, but news about missing child Hassani Campbell:

http://www.ktvu.com/news/20891590/detail.html

Clothing Similar To That Worn By Missing 5-Year-Old Found In Oakland

Posted: 2:23 pm PDT September 13, 2009Updated: 2:58 pm PDT September 13, 2009

OAKLAND, Calif. -- Volunteers searching for missing 5-year-old Hasanni Campbell have discovered clothes similar to those the boy disappeared in over a month ago at the dead-end of a road in Oakland.

The search volunteers found a grey sweatshirt, a red sock, and other children's clothes partially buried at the end of Chabot Road in Oakland, according to Oakland police sgt. Arturo Bautista.

The volunteers immediately contacted Oakland police, who have since roped off the area.
<snip>

Link to Hassani Campbell thread at Scared Monkeys:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5911.msg942157#msg942157


Muffy...Thanks so much for letting us know...been trying to keep up w/Hasanni.  Was totally disgusted when they let the foster father out of jail.  



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 13, 2009, 06:19:39 PM
I'm dancing as fast as I can!

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Animatedgifsladydancing090601.gif)(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Animatedgifsladydancing090601.gif)(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Animatedgifsladydancing090601.gif)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: San on September 13, 2009, 06:20:27 PM
I'm dancing as fast as I can!

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Animatedgifsladydancing090601.gif)(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Animatedgifsladydancing090601.gif)(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Animatedgifsladydancing090601.gif)

 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 13, 2009, 06:21:12 PM
She was such a little cutey pie



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 06:21:53 PM
OT, but news about missing child Hassani Campbell:

http://www.ktvu.com/news/20891590/detail.html

Clothing Similar To That Worn By Missing 5-Year-Old Found In Oakland

Posted: 2:23 pm PDT September 13, 2009Updated: 2:58 pm PDT September 13, 2009

OAKLAND, Calif. -- Volunteers searching for missing 5-year-old Hasanni Campbell have discovered clothes similar to those the boy disappeared in over a month ago at the dead-end of a road in Oakland.

The search volunteers found a grey sweatshirt, a red sock, and other children's clothes partially buried at the end of Chabot Road in Oakland, according to Oakland police sgt. Arturo Bautista.

The volunteers immediately contacted Oakland police, who have since roped off the area.
<snip>

Link to Hassani Campbell thread at Scared Monkeys:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5911.msg942157#msg942157

Hey Miz  ::bee::, thanks for the heads up. I am off to check it out!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 13, 2009, 06:21:57 PM
Sweet Angel



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: tupelohoney on September 13, 2009, 06:22:11 PM
I'm dancing as fast as I can!

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Animatedgifsladydancing090601.gif)(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Animatedgifsladydancing090601.gif)(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Animatedgifsladydancing090601.gif)

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 13, 2009, 06:22:28 PM
More sweetness



O what a beautiful graphic pic of Caylee, so sweet!   Gorgeous work!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: MuffyBee on September 13, 2009, 06:22:32 PM
She was such a little cutey pie



Yes, I agree she was.   ::MonkeyAngel::  I got a big lump in my throat looking at that pic.


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: San on September 13, 2009, 06:22:40 PM
She was such a little cutey pie



I love this picture.

(http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5980.0;attach=9668;image)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 13, 2009, 06:22:41 PM
(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/0904caylee10.jpg)


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 06:23:31 PM
Going down Memory Lane:

RECAP: Cindyisms!

Here are some Cindyism that were said from July -September 2008!  Of course these are not all of them!

~If Casey cannot trust the authorities with the truth then the people have to find Caylee so that we can sort the truth out after Caylee has been found.

~There was a bag of pizza for, what, 12 days in the back of the car, full of maggots. It stunk so bad. You know how hot it’s been. That smell was terrible.

~She’s leading me to a place, but she’s not telling me to the right exact location to which apartment it is because she’s afraid, if someone walks in, that something may happen to Caylee.

~My daughter may have some mistruths out there, or half-truths, but she’s not a murderer.

~Get off your arses and look for my granddaughter. I don’t care if this is on the news or what. She’s out there.

~We’ve all made mistakes. But right now, she’s not making a mistake. She’s protecting her child. And no one can say or second-guess what you’re going to do to protect your child when you fear for their safety.

~Here is what she says about the media in one breath:  I’m going to do whatever it takes to take advantage of the media, and if it continues to drag our family through the mud and whatever, as long as Caylee’s picture is out there every day and that picture gets ingrained on everybody’s brain and they look — as long as they don’t give up, she’s coming home. She might come home this afternoon. She may come home tomorrow. I hope she’s home by Saturday. If she’s not, you know what? I’m not giving up just because her birthday’s Saturday.

http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2009/09/13/recap-cindyisms-2/

Reading those my my skin crawl!!  I'll bet we could add to that list!! ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: San on September 13, 2009, 06:23:57 PM
Muffy I will get the lock.  ::MonkeyCheer2::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: BluesyGram on September 13, 2009, 06:24:33 PM
I'm dancing as fast as I can!

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Animatedgifsladydancing090601.gif)(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Animatedgifsladydancing090601.gif)(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Animatedgifsladydancing090601.gif)

Is that Ms. Baden?



 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 13, 2009, 06:24:40 PM
Going down Memory Lane:

RECAP: Cindyisms!

Here are some Cindyism that were said from July -September 2008!  Of course these are not all of them!

~If Casey cannot trust the authorities with the truth then the people have to find Caylee so that we can sort the truth out after Caylee has been found.

~There was a bag of pizza for, what, 12 days in the back of the car, full of maggots. It stunk so bad. You know how hot it’s been. That smell was terrible.

~She’s leading me to a place, but she’s not telling me to the right exact location to which apartment it is because she’s afraid, if someone walks in, that something may happen to Caylee.

~My daughter may have some mistruths out there, or half-truths, but she’s not a murderer.

~Get off your arses and look for my granddaughter. I don’t care if this is on the news or what. She’s out there.

~We’ve all made mistakes. But right now, she’s not making a mistake. She’s protecting her child. And no one can say or second-guess what you’re going to do to protect your child when you fear for their safety.

~Here is what she says about the media in one breath:  I’m going to do whatever it takes to take advantage of the media, and if it continues to drag our family through the mud and whatever, as long as Caylee’s picture is out there every day and that picture gets ingrained on everybody’s brain and they look — as long as they don’t give up, she’s coming home. She might come home this afternoon. She may come home tomorrow. I hope she’s home by Saturday. If she’s not, you know what? I’m not giving up just because her birthday’s Saturday.

http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2009/09/13/recap-cindyisms-2/

Reading those my my skin crawl!!  I'll bet we could add to that list!! ::MonkeyDevil::

Do we have enough paper to make the list?   ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: KarmaRoundUp on September 13, 2009, 06:25:34 PM
Soooo cute!



Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 13, 2009, 06:25:40 PM
I'm dancing as fast as I can!

(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Animatedgifsladydancing090601.gif)(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Animatedgifsladydancing090601.gif)(http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww328/seasidecece/Animatedgifsladydancing090601.gif)

Is that Ms. Baden?

Sure looks like her.  I don't think Ms Baden's hair looks that good.   ::MonkeyDevil2::



 ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: SunnyinTX on September 13, 2009, 06:25:43 PM
Krma, thanks for psoting these wonderful pictures of Caylee!  I love seeing her when she looked so happy!!


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: Cappuccino on September 13, 2009, 06:26:09 PM
She was such a little cutey pie



I love this picture.

(http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5980.0;attach=9668;image)

That picture depicits the joy babygirl should have felt every day as a toddler...sigh

Have a lovely evening monkeys & Ill cyas tomorrow.   PS Miki, thanks so much for your well wishes & concern.   I'm glad to be back with you and all our monkey friends  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: cece on September 13, 2009, 06:26:32 PM
OOps!  Sorry Bluesy, I got in your box.   ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Caylee Marie Anthony # 146 9/4/09 -
Post by: San on September 13, 2009, 06:27:00 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/Sanddrops/Scared%20Monkeys/LOCKED2.gif)

Please move to Caylee Marie Anthony # 147
 
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6073.0