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Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 24, 2006, 12:12:03 PM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/SMglobexmas1.gif)

Wishing everyone a Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah
Happy Holidays, Peace and Joy


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 24, 2006, 11:54:05 PM
San, the tree looks beautiful !


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 24, 2006, 11:54:10 PM
Actually my sister usually does a better job than she did this year.  I helped decorate a little.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: mishy on December 24, 2006, 11:54:10 PM
San,  your tree looks terrific!!!!!! Ya'll did a great job!!

I've been meaning to ask you, how's your hand?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 24, 2006, 11:54:17 PM
San's tree for those who may have missed it in the previous thread!  Turned out great!

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/Sanddrops/DSC00244.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 24, 2006, 11:55:57 PM
Quote from: "mishy"
San,  your tree looks terrific!!!!!! Ya'll did a great job!!

I've been meaning to ask you, how's your hand?

Thanks Elaine and Mishy.

Mishy my hand is getting stronger.  I'm just waiting for the stiffness in my hand and fingers to go away.  But the arm itself is stronger.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 24, 2006, 11:56:48 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
San's tree for those who may have missed it in the previous thread!  Turned out great!

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/Sanddrops/DSC00244.jpg)
look at the lights of her tree reflecting on the TV screen, that's cool


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 24, 2006, 11:57:28 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
San's tree for those who may have missed it in the previous thread!  Turned out great!

Thanks klaas.

I see I got home just in time for page 49 :lol: .


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 24, 2006, 11:58:31 PM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "klaasend"
San's tree for those who may have missed it in the previous thread!  Turned out great!

Thanks klaas.

I see I got home just in time for page 49 :lol: .

Yep!  How was your dinner?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 24, 2006, 11:58:33 PM
San
That tree is so pretty.  Are you sure that's the same one and you didn't just run over to the neighbor's and take a quick photo?  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 25, 2006, 12:00:02 AM
Quote from: Elaine
Quote from: "klaasend"
San's tree for those who may have missed it in the previous thread!  Turned out great!

look at the lights of her tree reflecting on the TV screen, that's cool

What I really enjoy is shutting the lights off and watching the Christmas tree with some Christmas music on low.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 25, 2006, 12:00:16 AM
Got a funny for the monkeys!

I have kidded Red a couple of times because I was posting one day when Mrs. Red mentioned she'd like to have a gift of pearls from Red for Christmas. My friend was in my office at one of those occasions and I asked if he knew how to spell "Mikimoto". His reply was ,"What's a Mikimoto? I explained that they were the first to produce cultured pearls and that they sold only the highest quality pearls.

We exchanged gifts tonight....................
Uh-huh, you're ahead of me, right? He gave me a Mikimoto pearl ring!  :lol:

I can't wait to see what Mrs. Red has picked out for me next year!!!  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 25, 2006, 12:03:20 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "klaasend"
San's tree for those who may have missed it in the previous thread!  Turned out great!

Thanks klaas.

I see I got home just in time for page 49 :lol: .

Yep!  How was your dinner?

Dinner was really good Klaas.  Glad it's over though.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 12:04:18 AM
Merry Christmas, Monkeys, each and everyone of you.  You are all very special and your patience and endurance with this case and with other things (me included) means a lot.  

 :cry: I never got my Monkey Poster and Christmas is already here. :cry:  :cry:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 12:04:20 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Got a funny for the monkeys!

I have kidded Red a couple of times because I was posting one day when Mrs. Red mentioned she'd like to have a gift of pearls from Red for Christmas. My friend was in my office at one of those occasions and I asked if he knew how to spell "Mikimoto". His reply was ,"What's a Mikimoto? I explained that they were the first to produce cultured pearls and that they sold only the highest quality pearls.

We exchanged gifts tonight....................
Uh-huh, you're ahead of me, right? He gave me a Mikimoto pearl ring!  :lol:

I can't wait to see what Mrs. Red has picked out for me next year!!!  :lol:
LOL! That's a great gift though! very nice.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 25, 2006, 12:09:22 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Merry Christmas, Monkeys, each and everyone of you.  You are all very special and your patience and endurance with this case and with other things (me included) means a lot.  

 :cry: I never got my Monkey Poster and Christmas is already here. :cry:  :cry:


Thank you Tyler. I think you're a very gracious lady, and wish that the coming year  brings you the happiest and most peaceful year you've ever known!

That's what I wish for all of us!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 12:10:57 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Merry Christmas, Monkeys, each and everyone of you.  You are all very special and your patience and endurance with this case and with other things (me included) means a lot.  

 :cry: I never got my Monkey Poster and Christmas is already here. :cry:  :cry:
Tylergal Merry Christmas to you as well and your family!! Do not feel too bad, because I ordered a shirt with the tree too I placed my order with cafe press on Dec.10th. Their holiday order schedule said if you order by midnight on Dec. 11th (standard mail not expedited) that you would have it by December 22nd. Well, as I said I ordered right after midnite on the 9th, early am of the 10th...and yesterday the 23rd....no shirt. I was disappointed because I wanted to wear it today to a family gathering for the holidays because they ALL hear me about my scared monkeys! I am over it now though., oh well.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 12:14:23 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
San
That tree is so pretty.  Are you sure that's the same one and you didn't just run over to the neighbor's and take a quick photo?  :wink:
Lala's I hope that you and your family are having a great holiday season!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 25, 2006, 12:17:42 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Merry Christmas, Monkeys, each and everyone of you.  You are all very special and your patience and endurance with this case and with other things (me included) means a lot.  

 :cry: I never got my Monkey Poster and Christmas is already here. :cry:  :cry:
Tylergal Merry Christmas to you as well and your family!! Do not feel too bad, because I ordered a shirt with the tree too I placed my order with cafe press on Dec.10th. Their holiday order schedule said if you order by midnight on Dec. 11th (standard mail not expedited) that you would have it by December 22nd. Well, as I said I ordered right after midnite on the 9th, early am of the 10th...and yesterday the 23rd....no shirt. I was disappointed because I wanted to wear it today to a family gathering for the holidays because they ALL hear me about my scared monkeys! I am over it now though., oh well.

I have a feeling that the bad weather in Denver and surrounding areas may have messed up some shipping schedules.  Sorry that you guys didn't get your items in time for Christmas.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 25, 2006, 12:17:50 AM
Elaine
I hope you and yours does also.  I have missed you here and so glad you joined on Christmas Eve.  It's just like being with family when I am here and I am not kidding when I say that.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 12:19:09 AM
They just sang Stille Nacht on TV (Silent night) in German, and I sang along.. :lol: I grew up in Germany and still remember the words to that song!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 12:21:07 AM
Thank you, CBB.  Elaine, we can be out-of-date Christmas monkeys together even if we get them next year.  We will be ahead of the rush!

CBB, explain something to me.  See, I have had more eggnog and I am just not quite understanding about the pearl ring.  Did you get one or did Mrs. Red get one?

Now, let me say this, too.  Klaas, I was scared of Santa tonight too.  He came to our son's house to see the boys but I was afraid he had really come to seek out a grandmother.  I did not like that.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 25, 2006, 12:21:12 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Elaine
I hope you and yours does also.  I have missed you here and so glad you joined on Christmas Eve.  It's just like being with family when I am here and I am not kidding when I say that.


I agree, Lala's. I know exactly what you mean.

I'm alone, but as soon as I saw Klaas, Elaine, Tyler, and everyone, I was with folks who I care about!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 12:22:28 AM
Lala's, Carnut is gone.  We can tango! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 12:23:05 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"

I have a feeling that the bad weather in Denver and surrounding areas may have messed up some shipping schedules.  Sorry that you guys didn't get your items in time for Christmas.
That could be Klaas. You don't have to be sorry though, you certainly have no control over when they ship things out. I will wear it after Christmas :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 25, 2006, 12:24:37 AM
I faxed my "naughty" and "nice" list last night to the North Pole.  I must have been in one of my better moods because I had a really long "nice" list and not a single monkey made it to my "naughty" list. So I guess that means he's coming to see everyone tonight.

Merry Christmas hugs to Nemo and all the monkeys and to all a good night.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 25, 2006, 12:25:05 AM
According to NORAD, Santa is in the St. Louis area right now!  :lol:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/SantaTrackStLouis.jpg)

http://www.noradsanta.org/en/default.php


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 12:25:13 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "klaasend"

I have a feeling that the bad weather in Denver and surrounding areas may have messed up some shipping schedules.  Sorry that you guys didn't get your items in time for Christmas.
That could be Klaas. You don't have to be sorry though, you certainly have no control over when they ship things out. I will wear it after Christmas :lol:  :lol:


Well, I could not agree with that more.  I am just disappointed, not mad.  I wanted my poster because even my grandkids know I am a "scared monkey."


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 25, 2006, 12:25:27 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Lala's, Carnut is gone.  We can tango! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Well, maybe I will stay up for that.  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 12:25:31 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Elaine
I hope you and yours does also.  I have missed you here and so glad you joined on Christmas Eve.  It's just like being with family when I am here and I am not kidding when I say that.


I agree, Lala's. I know exactly what you mean.

I'm alone, but as soon as I saw Klaas, Elaine, Tyler, and everyone, I was with folks who I care about!
Same here, Isn't it great!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 25, 2006, 12:25:41 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I faxed my "naughty" and "nice" list last night to the North Pole.  I must have been in one of my better moods because I had a really long "nice" list and not a single monkey made it to my "naughty" list. So I guess that means he's coming to see everyone tonight.

Merry Christmas hugs to Nemo and all the monkeys and to all a good night.


Nite Lala's - Merry Christmas!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 25, 2006, 12:25:47 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Thank you, CBB.  Elaine, we can be out-of-date Christmas monkeys together even if we get them next year.  We will be ahead of the rush!

CBB, explain something to me.  See, I have had more eggnog and I am just not quite understanding about the pearl ring.  Did you get one or did Mrs. Red get one?

Now, let me say this, too.  Klaas, I was scared of Santa tonight too.  He came to our son's house to see the boys but I was afraid he had really come to seek out a grandmother.  I did not like that.


I'm glad you're enjoying the eggnog, Tyler!

And Lala's: I meant to add your name to my list of "family"!

Tyler, I got the ring. I have no idea if Red took the hints that I'm sure Mrs. Red was dropping and that I kidded him about!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 12:26:26 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Thank you, CBB.  Elaine, we can be out-of-date Christmas monkeys together even if we get them next year.  We will be ahead of the rush!

CBB, explain something to me.  See, I have had more eggnog and I am just not quite understanding about the pearl ring.  Did you get one or did Mrs. Red get one?

Now, let me say this, too.  Klaas, I was scared of Santa tonight too.  He came to our son's house to see the boys but I was afraid he had really come to seek out a grandmother.  I did not like that.


I'm glad you're enjoying the eggnog, Tyler!

And Lala's: I meant to add your name to my list of "family"!

Tyler, I got the ring. I have no idea if Red took the hints that I'm sure Mrs. Red was dropping and that I kidded him about!


Okay, if Mrs. Red did not get a ring, then we have a mission, right?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 12:27:20 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Lala's, Carnut is gone.  We can tango! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Well, maybe I will stay up for that.  :D


Did Shango say anything about prison doors and 2007?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 25, 2006, 12:27:58 AM
Tylergal - did you read back and see the calendar I'm working on.  Need Red and Tom's approval on it still.  The cover page is a collage and each month is a screen shot of a FP from that month in 2006.

Here's the cover page:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/SMcalendar1.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 25, 2006, 12:27:59 AM
One year Santa came to our house and my younger sister was so afraid she was screaming and hiding behind my aunt.  When he pulled her favorite doll out of his bag she wanted she started screaming get that from him :lol: .


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 25, 2006, 12:29:16 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Thank you, CBB.  Elaine, we can be out-of-date Christmas monkeys together even if we get them next year.  We will be ahead of the rush!

CBB, explain something to me.  See, I have had more eggnog and I am just not quite understanding about the pearl ring.  Did you get one or did Mrs. Red get one?

Now, let me say this, too.  Klaas, I was scared of Santa tonight too.  He came to our son's house to see the boys but I was afraid he had really come to seek out a grandmother.  I did not like that.


I'm glad you're enjoying the eggnog, Tyler!

And Lala's: I meant to add your name to my list of "family"!

Tyler, I got the ring. I have no idea if Red took the hints that I'm sure Mrs. Red was dropping and that I kidded him about!


Okay, if Mrs. Red did not get a ring, then we have a mission, right?


What ring did Mrs. Red want?  I seriously doubt Red caught any hints, lol  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 12:30:28 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Tylergal - did you read back and see the calendar I'm working on.  Need Red and Tom's approval on it still.  The cover page is a collage and each month is a screen shot of a FP from that month in 2006.

Here's the cover page:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/SMcalendar1.jpg)


That's neat, Klaas.  Do we have a page that has toast on it? :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 12:31:36 AM
Quote from: "San"
One year Santa came to our house and my younger sister was so afraid she was screaming and hiding behind my aunt.  When he pulled her favorite doll out of his bag she wanted she started screaming get that from him :lol: .
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 25, 2006, 12:31:43 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Tylergal - did you read back and see the calendar I'm working on.  Need Red and Tom's approval on it still.  The cover page is a collage and each month is a screen shot of a FP from that month in 2006.

Here's the cover page:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/SMcalendar1.jpg)


That's neat, Klaas.  Do we have a page that has toast on it? :wink:


That will have to be for another calendar.  This one is more generic.  I can do another with funny stuff only..  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 25, 2006, 12:31:48 AM
Hey Klaas, I saw that snowglobe...................you're just showing off!  :wink:  :lol:

I've managed to really mess up with Photoshop. Somehow, I can now create animation ( Thanks to Klass ), but I've done something with the color, so that I can play it in the program, but when I save it "optimized", everything is blue and black! Take a look!   :lol:  :lol:

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/sparklebackground.gif)

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/Forida3copy.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 12:33:27 AM
Klaas, does your husband and family know what a shear genius you are?  We love you.  You are so clever.  I think the "funny" one would sell like "hotcakes" or "buttered toast."


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 25, 2006, 12:33:58 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Hey Klaas, I saw that snowglobe...................you're just showing off!  :wink:  :lol:

I've managed to really mess up with Photoshop. Somehow, I can now create animation ( Thanks to Klass ), but I've done something with the color, so that I can play it in the program, but when I save it "optimized", everything is blue and black! Take a look!   :lol:  :lol:

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/sparklebackground.gif)

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/Forida3copy.jpg)

CBB - I've had that problem sometimes too and I don't remember what caused it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 25, 2006, 12:34:10 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Thank you, CBB.  Elaine, we can be out-of-date Christmas monkeys together even if we get them next year.  We will be ahead of the rush!

CBB, explain something to me.  See, I have had more eggnog and I am just not quite understanding about the pearl ring.  Did you get one or did Mrs. Red get one?

Now, let me say this, too.  Klaas, I was scared of Santa tonight too.  He came to our son's house to see the boys but I was afraid he had really come to seek out a grandmother.  I did not like that.


I'm glad you're enjoying the eggnog, Tyler!

And Lala's: I meant to add your name to my list of "family"!

Tyler, I got the ring. I have no idea if Red took the hints that I'm sure Mrs. Red was dropping and that I kidded him about!


Okay, if Mrs. Red did not get a ring, then we have a mission, right?


What ring did Mrs. Red want?  I seriously doubt Red caught any hints, lol  :lol:


I'm not sure it was a ring she wanted. She just mentioned she'd left hints for Red to shop at Mikimoto's! Could have been a strand of pearls, etc....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 25, 2006, 12:35:17 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Lala's, Carnut is gone.  We can tango! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Well, maybe I will stay up for that.  :D


Did Shango say anything about prison doors and 2007?


How about this:

The fires are burning bright!
The babylonians and shivas are toast!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 12:35:40 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Tylergal - did you read back and see the calendar I'm working on.  Need Red and Tom's approval on it still.  The cover page is a collage and each month is a screen shot of a FP from that month in 2006.

Here's the cover page:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/SMcalendar1.jpg)


That's neat, Klaas.  Do we have a page that has toast on it? :wink:


That will have to be for another calendar.  This one is more generic.  I can do another with funny stuff only..  :lol:
The calender is a neat idea. If you ever do a funny one you will have to put some of your graphics of the suspects in this case on it, oh my I am laughing at the thought of that one!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 25, 2006, 12:35:41 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Klaas, does your husband and family know what a shear genius you are?  We love you.  You are so clever.  I think the "funny" one would sell like "hotcakes" or "buttered toast."

Tylergal - you are being way too kind.  I'll do a funny one too.  The problem (or maybe it's not a problem) is coming up with 13 large pictures for the cover and 12 months.  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 25, 2006, 12:36:46 AM
Well, that makes me feel much better, Klaas! I've got to be getting better if I'm at least having the same problems you've encountered!   :lol:

I've played with the color settings trying to fix it to the point I'm not sure I haven't caused everything to be that way!  :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 25, 2006, 12:37:25 AM
CBB - it will be interresting to see if Red caught the hints.  He doesn't seem like a "hint" kind of guy to me.  Seems like someone you should come right out and say what you want kind of guy.  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 12:38:45 AM
You are a lucky person to have someone give you a Mikimoto pearl, CBB.  My DH gave me one black pearl a few years back on a 14K gold chain and my #2 son and his wife gave me the earrings to match. I love it.  It is really pretty with a low cut something or other.  I need a face lift.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 25, 2006, 12:38:54 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Well, that makes me feel much better, Klaas! I've got to be getting better if I'm at least having the same problems you've encountered!   :lol:

I've played with the color settings trying to fix it to the point I'm not sure I haven't caused everything to be that way!  :shock:

CBB - I think it has something to do with the original picture, how it's saved..but I'm not positive.  When I encountered that problem I tried everything in image ready and never could fix it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 12:39:45 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Lala's, Carnut is gone.  We can tango! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Well, maybe I will stay up for that.  :D


Did Shango say anything about prison doors and 2007?


How about this:

The fires are burning bright!
The babylonians and shivas are toast!
I'll drink to that!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 25, 2006, 12:40:35 AM
Monkeys the bed is still calling my name, so I will bid you all goodnight and see you tomorrow or the next.  Merry Christmas blessing to all of you.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 25, 2006, 12:40:56 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Well, that makes me feel much better, Klaas! I've got to be getting better if I'm at least having the same problems you've encountered!   :lol:

I've played with the color settings trying to fix it to the point I'm not sure I haven't caused everything to be that way!  :shock:

CBB - I think it has something to do with the original picture, how it's saved..but I'm not positive.  When I encountered that problem I tried everything in image ready and never could fix it.


When I try to create an animation, I create each frame in photoshop first and save each frame as a GIF.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 25, 2006, 12:41:08 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
You are a lucky person to have someone give you a Mikimoto pearl, CBB.  My DH gave me one black pearl a few years back on a 14K gold chain and my #2 son and his wife gave me the earrings to match. I love it.  It is really pretty with a low cut something or other.  I need a face lift.

 :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 12:41:18 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Monkeys the bed is still calling my name, so I will bid you all goodnight and see you tomorrow or the next.  Merry Christmas blessing to all of you.


Right back at you, Lala's.  Merry Christmas and sweet dreams.  Sleep well but be watchful of that Santa I met tonight.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 25, 2006, 12:41:36 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Monkeys the bed is still calling my name, so I will bid you all goodnight and see you tomorrow or the next.  Merry Christmas blessing to all of you.


Merry Christmas to you too Lala's!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 12:43:04 AM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
You are a lucky person to have someone give you a Mikimoto pearl, CBB.  My DH gave me one black pearl a few years back on a 14K gold chain and my #2 son and his wife gave me the earrings to match. I love it.  It is really pretty with a low cut something or other.  I need a face lift.

 :lol:  :lol:


I was hoping to drop a hint for some occasion.  I am so mad at my DH.  You are not going to believe what he gave me for Christmas!  A bunch of Sharper Image air filters, a whole house full of them.  I did not want that.  I wanted a face lift or a trip, or at least something bright and shiny that is very hard and you can never have too many and they are your best friend.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 25, 2006, 12:44:37 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
You are a lucky person to have someone give you a Mikimoto pearl, CBB.  My DH gave me one black pearl a few years back on a 14K gold chain and my #2 son and his wife gave me the earrings to match. I love it.  It is really pretty with a low cut something or other.  I need a face lift.


Well, I've made up my mind, if I can pull it off. My ex is preparing for bankruptcy and if I end up being held accountable for his debts, I'm going to have extensive cosmetic surgery. There's something called a "feather lift" that is 72 hr. recuperation time and an alternative to a face lift, and a tummy tuck and anything else I can think of. Let's see them make me give THAT back!  :lol:  ( just kidding......I think)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 12:47:39 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
You are a lucky person to have someone give you a Mikimoto pearl, CBB.  My DH gave me one black pearl a few years back on a 14K gold chain and my #2 son and his wife gave me the earrings to match. I love it.  It is really pretty with a low cut something or other.  I need a face lift.


Well, I've made up my mind, if I can pull it off. My ex is preparing for bankruptcy and if I end up being held accountable for his debts, I'm going to have extensive cosmetic surgery. There's something called a "feather lift" that is 72 hr. recuperation time and an alternative to a face lift, and a tummy tuck and anything else I can think of. Let's see them make me give THAT back!  :lol:  ( just kidding......I think)


That's my kind of thinking.  I should have asked that old Santa tonight to buy me a diamond. :lol:  :lol:  I should have made it clear that I did not want darned air filters for a gift. :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

The kids thought it was hilarious.  They asked me how long he had been wanting them and used this occasion to buy them for himself?  He then said he got them for me since I have asthma. :roll:  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 25, 2006, 12:48:06 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
You are a lucky person to have someone give you a Mikimoto pearl, CBB.  My DH gave me one black pearl a few years back on a 14K gold chain and my #2 son and his wife gave me the earrings to match. I love it.  It is really pretty with a low cut something or other.  I need a face lift.

 :lol:  :lol:


I was hoping to drop a hint for some occasion.  I am so mad at my DH.  You are not going to believe what he gave me for Christmas!  A bunch of Sharper Image air filters, a whole house full of them.  I did not want that.  I wanted a face lift or a trip, or at least something bright and shiny that is very hard and you can never have too many and they are your best friend.

My sister got an iRobot Scooba Floor Washer from her son  :lol: .  Later on when he left she looked at me and said can you believe what he got me  :lol: .


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 25, 2006, 12:48:11 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Well, that makes me feel much better, Klaas! I've got to be getting better if I'm at least having the same problems you've encountered!   :lol:

I've played with the color settings trying to fix it to the point I'm not sure I haven't caused everything to be that way!  :shock:

CBB - I think it has something to do with the original picture, how it's saved..but I'm not positive.  When I encountered that problem I tried everything in image ready and never could fix it.


When I try to create an animation, I create each frame in photoshop first and save each frame as a GIF.


I remembered you had said that, and I'm going to retry making sure I do that, when I get a chance. I listen to you Klaas! You've been a tremendous help!

I was pretty obvious to Red. Actually, I addressed a post to him and added:
 subliminal message: Mrs. Red; Mikimoto.......Mrs. Red; Mikimoto...Mrs. Red: Mikimoto...   :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 12:48:22 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Monkeys the bed is still calling my name, so I will bid you all goodnight and see you tomorrow or the next.  Merry Christmas blessing to all of you.
Sweet visions of sugarplums to you!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 12:48:58 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Well, that makes me feel much better, Klaas! I've got to be getting better if I'm at least having the same problems you've encountered!   :lol:

I've played with the color settings trying to fix it to the point I'm not sure I haven't caused everything to be that way!  :shock:

CBB - I think it has something to do with the original picture, how it's saved..but I'm not positive.  When I encountered that problem I tried everything in image ready and never could fix it.


When I try to create an animation, I create each frame in photoshop first and save each frame as a GIF.


I remembered you had said that, and I'm going to retry making sure I do that, when I get a chance. I listen to you Klaas! You've been a tremendous help!

I was pretty obvious to Red. Actually, I addressed a post to him and added:
 subliminal message: Mrs. Red; Mikimoto.......Mrs. Red; Mikimoto...Mrs. Red: Mikimoto...   :wink:


Maybe he's Dutch!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 12:49:42 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Monkeys the bed is still calling my name, so I will bid you all goodnight and see you tomorrow or the next.  Merry Christmas blessing to all of you.
Sweet visions of sugarplums to you!


Elaine, has Santa been to visit you yet?  If not, do you want me to tell him you do not want a Robot floor scrubber or air filters?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 25, 2006, 12:50:33 AM
Night Lala's!!! Sweet Dreams!

Tyler, I'm with you! I love diamonds! They're my birthstone!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 12:51:27 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Night Lala's!!! Sweet Dreams!

Tyler, I'm with you! I love diamonds! They're my birthstone!


Aprilborg. :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: sb on December 25, 2006, 12:52:38 AM
Hi everyone,

Just wanted to jump in here for tonight and wish everyone a Merry Christmas and let y'all know you are very much in my thoughts. I hope all of you have a great time with family and friends and that this next year brings the very best to each one.

I am so thankful for this Cage and for all of you!

We have hung in here and I pray we will continue on to help Natalee's family and keep up the fight against the evils that are out there preying on our youth and our families.

"For unto us a child is born: unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulders; and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, the almighty God, the everlasting Father, the Prince of peace". (Isaiah 9:6)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 12:55:05 AM
How sweet, SB, thank you and a Merry Christmas to you and yours.  I hope 2007 is going to be the best year yet for you and your family.  I know this one has been a tough one, but I pray 2007 will be the best ever.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 25, 2006, 12:55:23 AM
Men can be soooooobrain dead when it comes to gifts!

The ring is from a dear friend who is male. But, he's not typical. Maybe the "practical" side of men is attached to the straight gene, 'cause that would disqualify him!

'Course you give up some pretty important things in exchange for that "thoughtfulness"....... :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on December 25, 2006, 12:57:27 AM
Merry Christmas to you all :) :)

Klaas and Tyler.. I
I was afraid of Santa when I was little too.  My mom has not ONE photo of Santa and I together cause I refused to sit on his lap. My brother on the other hand was fine getting his photo taken.
  Last year and just tonight my dad dressed up as Santa for my baby 2 yr old nephew... LMAO  Lasy year AND tonight. my mom said... Ang.. let me get your pic with Santa.. sit on his lap. I said hell no.. she said  but its your dad... Nope still wouldnt do it. Now I feel kinda bad cause I may regret it one day.
 
  Peace and Love to you all.. :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 25, 2006, 12:58:15 AM
Quote from: "sb"
Hi everyone,

Just wanted to jump in here for tonight and wish everyone a Merry Christmas and let y'all know you are very much in my thoughts. I hope all of you have a great time with family and friends and that this next year brings the very best to each one.

I am so thankful for this Cage and for all of you!

We have hung in here and I pray we will continue on to help Natalee's family and keep up the fight against the evils that are out there preying on our youth and our families.

"For unto us a child is born: unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulders; and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, the almighty God, the everlasting Father, the Prince of peace". (Isaiah 9:6)


Thank you for bringing that to us sb!!!
Merry Christmas!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 25, 2006, 12:58:48 AM
Merry Christmas to you too Angie and SB!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 12:59:32 AM
Angie, I think that would have been a sweet picture.  Can you take a picture of you and him tomorrow, with you sitting on his lap in his santawear?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on December 25, 2006, 01:01:19 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Angie, I think that would have been a sweet picture.  Can you take a picture of you and him tomorrow, with you sitting on his lap in his santawear?


 You read my mind Tyler..
Kinda feel werid sitting on my dads lap at age 41.. LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 01:01:38 AM
CBB, I know what you mean about the "thoughtful gene."  I guess I kind of like my DH the way he is, but if I ever marry again, I think I want a rich homosexual man who has made his money from cooking, gardening and decorating, maybe even think of me as his mom on whom he wants to spend lots of money lavishing me with gifts.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 25, 2006, 01:03:01 AM
Tonight at dinner I got stock next to my younger sister and my aunt.  For the first time we went out for Christmas Eve with my aunt and her family.  We haven’t talked for quite a few years but since my father passed over the summer we started talking again.  So now I’m stuck between my Aunt and my sister with my nephew across from me.  I think they are both hypochondriacs.  They both started talking about what bothers them and their symptoms.  My nephew looked and me and started laughing because he knew it was coming.  I turned and said hey look you two better stop it because both of you are killing me. :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 01:04:49 AM
Quote from: "San"
Tonight at dinner I got stock next to my younger sister and my aunt.  For the first time we went out for Christmas Eve with my aunt and her family.  We haven’t talked for quite a few years but since my father passed over the summer we started talking again.  So now I’m stuck between my Aunt and my sister with my nephew across from me.  I think they are both hypochondriacs.  They both started talking about what bothers them and their symptoms.  My nephew looked and me and started laughing because he knew it was coming.  I turned and said hey look you two better stop it because both of you are killing me. :lol:


I hope you had a nice dinner in spite of it all.  I hope you did not get a floor scrubber.  Please tell me you did not. :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 25, 2006, 01:05:42 AM
Quote from: "San"
Tonight at dinner I got stock next to my younger sister and my aunt.  For the first time we went out for Christmas Eve with my aunt and her family.  We haven’t talked for quite a few years but since my father passed over the summer we started talking again.  So now I’m stuck between my Aunt and my sister with my nephew across from me.  I think they are both hypochondriacs.  They both started talking about what bothers them and their symptoms.  My nephew looked and me and started laughing because he knew it was coming.  I turned and said hey look you two better stop it because both of you are killing me. :lol:


San - is this the sister you told me about the other day?  She seems kindof young to have medical problems, lol  :lol:   What does she think is wrong with her?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 25, 2006, 01:06:54 AM
Quote from: "San"
Tonight at dinner I got stock next to my younger sister and my aunt.  For the first time we went out for Christmas Eve with my aunt and her family.  We haven’t talked for quite a few years but since my father passed over the summer we started talking again.  So now I’m stuck between my Aunt and my sister with my nephew across from me.  I think they are both hypochondriacs.  They both started talking about what bothers them and their symptoms.  My nephew looked and me and started laughing because he knew it was coming.  I turned and said hey look you two better stop it because both of you are killing me. :lol:


ROFL!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on December 25, 2006, 01:07:27 AM
Quote from: "San"
Tonight at dinner I got stock next to my younger sister and my aunt.  For the first time we went out for Christmas Eve with my aunt and her family.  We haven’t talked for quite a few years but since my father passed over the summer we started talking again.  So now I’m stuck between my Aunt and my sister with my nephew across from me.  I think they are both hypochondriacs.  They both started talking about what bothers them and their symptoms.  My nephew looked and me and started laughing because he knew it was coming.  I turned and said hey look you two better stop it because both of you are killing me. :lol:


  ROFL~!! Hey..only had to put up with Gramma this evening.. she called me a butonna only one time.. then said Im an Angel.. then she said only when you 're asleep.. ROFL   She is a pisser.  (afraid shes getting symptoms of Altzheimers too).. she didnt know what month it was?
 And thought my daughters wedding was only 2 weeks ago.  :(
  Oh.. as we were leaving my parents around 7:30.. my Aunts were arriving... Darn.. missed all the fun.  ROFL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 25, 2006, 01:08:45 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "San"
Tonight at dinner I got stock next to my younger sister and my aunt.  For the first time we went out for Christmas Eve with my aunt and her family.  We haven’t talked for quite a few years but since my father passed over the summer we started talking again.  So now I’m stuck between my Aunt and my sister with my nephew across from me.  I think they are both hypochondriacs.  They both started talking about what bothers them and their symptoms.  My nephew looked and me and started laughing because he knew it was coming.  I turned and said hey look you two better stop it because both of you are killing me. :lol:


I hope you had a nice dinner in spite of it all.  I hope you did not get a floor scrubber.  Please tell me you did not. :lol:  :lol:

Actually the dinner was very nice and it was good for us all to get out for a change.  I did not get the floor scrubber my sister did.  When she opened the box I said what the heck is that  :lol: .  

I hope your hubby has a surprise for you tomorrow under the tree beside those air filters Tyler.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: mishy on December 25, 2006, 01:09:29 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Men can be soooooobrain dead when it comes to gifts!

The ring is from a dear friend who is male. But, he's not typical. Maybe the "practical" side of men is attached to the straight gene, 'cause that would disqualify him!

'Course you give up some pretty important things in exchange for that "thoughtfulness"....... :lol:


CBB, sounds like a great friend...A man who remembers what you mentioned in passing...He must be gay  8)  8)  8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 01:10:56 AM
Hi Mishy, how is your little angel?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on December 25, 2006, 01:11:35 AM
Quote from: "mishy"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Men can be soooooobrain dead when it comes to gifts!

The ring is from a dear friend who is male. But, he's not typical. Maybe the "practical" side of men is attached to the straight gene, 'cause that would disqualify him!

'Course you give up some pretty important things in exchange for that "thoughtfulness"....... :lol:


CBB, sounds like a great friend...A man who remembers what you mentioned in passing...He must be gay  8)  8)  8)


  LOL Mishy~!
 How is baby girl feeling??


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 01:11:37 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
You are a lucky person to have someone give you a Mikimoto pearl, CBB.  My DH gave me one black pearl a few years back on a 14K gold chain and my #2 son and his wife gave me the earrings to match. I love it.  It is really pretty with a low cut something or other.  I need a face lift.


Well, I've made up my mind, if I can pull it off. My ex is preparing for bankruptcy and if I end up being held accountable for his debts, I'm going to have extensive cosmetic surgery. There's something called a "feather lift" that is 72 hr. recuperation time and an alternative to a face lift, and a tummy tuck and anything else I can think of. Let's see them make me give THAT back!  :lol:  ( just kidding......I think)


That's my kind of thinking.  I should have asked that old Santa tonight to buy me a diamond. :lol:  :lol:  I should have made it clear that I did not want darned air filters for a gift. :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

The kids thought it was hilarious.  They asked me how long he had been wanting them and used this occasion to buy them for himself?  He then said he got them for me since I have asthma. :roll:  :roll:
I won a diamond ring set on ebay for #25.00. People sell all kinda things cheap to get money for Christmas, so I figured I'd buy this set of rings for $25.00, the picture isn't real clear BUT the set is beautiful it has a center diamond of .15 pts with two smaller on each side and a band with 5 small diamonds! for $25.00 I would say I got one heck of a deal they came and are beautiful, worth $250.00 at least!!! Here's the picture  http://tinyurl.com/yer9  hmmm couldn't get it to hyperlink


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 25, 2006, 01:11:58 AM
I'm going to call it a night.

MERRY CHRISTMAS
EVERYONE.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 25, 2006, 01:13:52 AM
Quote from: "San"
I'm going to call it a night.

MERRY CHRISTMAS
EVERYONE.


Nite San - Merry Christmas to you too!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on December 25, 2006, 01:14:02 AM
Quote from: "San"
I'm going to call it a night.

MERRY CHRISTMAS
EVERYONE.

 

 Night San~!!!!!!!  Merry Christmas to you and your sisters and brudda~~
Talk to you soon!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 01:14:51 AM
http://tinyurl.com/yer9mr


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: mishy on December 25, 2006, 01:14:51 AM
Tyler, she's doing much better and hasn't had any problems today. Looks like she's going to be completely well for Christmas day! I just got finished putting out all the Santa stuff and writing a note from Santa and drinking the milk and eating the cookies. lol:  :lol: Thought I'd check back in here since it's officially Christmas here in AL and wish you all a very Merry Christmas!! And to all a good night!!

Hugs and prayers for you all...Sleep well  :wink:  :


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 01:14:57 AM
That's great, Elaine.  Is this a birthday or a Christmas gift?  You cannot even buy a gold ring for that price.  Just the gold is worth four times that even without a diamond.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 25, 2006, 01:15:03 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "San"
Tonight at dinner I got stock next to my younger sister and my aunt.  For the first time we went out for Christmas Eve with my aunt and her family.  We haven’t talked for quite a few years but since my father passed over the summer we started talking again.  So now I’m stuck between my Aunt and my sister with my nephew across from me.  I think they are both hypochondriacs.  They both started talking about what bothers them and their symptoms.  My nephew looked and me and started laughing because he knew it was coming.  I turned and said hey look you two better stop it because both of you are killing me. :lol:


San - is this the sister you told me about the other day?  She seems kindof young to have medical problems, lol  :lol:   What does she think is wrong with her?

I just saw this.  She thinks everything is wrong with her Klaas.  She needs to take better care of herself.  She is only 35 years old.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 01:17:00 AM
I am so glad, Mishy.  Be a good Santa and get lots of sleep so you can play with her tomorrow.  You are such a great mom.

Elaine, that is very pretty!  I cannot believe you got that for that price.  It's gorgeous.  It looks better than I could have imagined.  It is beautiful.  Congratulations!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 01:17:03 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
That's great, Elaine.  Is this a birthday or a Christmas gift?  You cannot even buy a gold ring for that price.  Just the gold is worth four times that even without a diamond.
Birthday and Christmas to myself LMAO! birthday was two days ago, I am naughty huh?!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 01:19:02 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
I am so glad, Mishy.  Be a good Santa and get lots of sleep so you can play with her tomorrow.  You are such a great mom.

Elaine, that is very pretty!  I cannot believe you got that for that price.  It's gorgeous.  It looks better than I could have imagined.  It is beautiful.  Congratulations!!!!
I couldn't beleive it myself! Thanks Tyler!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 25, 2006, 01:20:02 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
http://tinyurl.com/yer9mr


Try it without the tiny url.  Just post the full link to the website.  If you want the picture to show up, just copy the url to the picture and add the IMG tags (not url tags)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 01:20:10 AM
Angie!!! Merry Christmas girl! Mishy have a good sleep.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 25, 2006, 01:20:11 AM
Quote from: "mishy"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Men can be soooooobrain dead when it comes to gifts!

The ring is from a dear friend who is male. But, he's not typical. Maybe the "practical" side of men is attached to the straight gene, 'cause that would disqualify him!

'Course you give up some pretty important things in exchange for that "thoughtfulness"....... :lol:


CBB, sounds like a great friend...A man who remembers what you mentioned in passing...He must be gay  8)  8)  8)


As a goose! Although he's bucking for "celebate" status for both of us, I think! Seriuosly, about 4 years now. We spend a lot of time together, and I've worried about him choosing to do that. We can only ever be less than "totally committed" just by the nature of it, and I'm aware of that. We love each other, but he needs to just adopt me with someone he can have a different sort of relationship with! I'm not in the market, so I don't give anything up!!  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 01:20:49 AM
Goodnight, San.  Merry Christmas and a Happy Birthday, Elaine.  I remembered.  

I am going to call it an evening as well.  Another busy day tomorrow.

P.S.  I got a great gifts from the kids so I am just going to call my DH Grinch.

I was wanting apothecary jars for my new kitchen look and I got a whole bunch of apothecary jars and three cloches, a new electric knife that matches appliances, a really neat stainless steel breadbox from Williams-Sonoma, and a paper towel thingie that plays music, a nice rose trellis and bench, two crystal decanters, some gourmet coffee, some new gloves and gauntlets for gardening, a gift certificate to my favorite gardenshop and 5 days and 4 nights at Charleston Place.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 25, 2006, 01:22:30 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
http://tinyurl.com/yer9mr


(http://i2.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/7c/5e/37fb_1.JPG)

(http://i21.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/7c/5e/32ac_1.JPG)

(http://i22.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/7c/5e/3561_1.JPG)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 25, 2006, 01:24:21 AM
I don't have very good equipment to do this with, but here's the ring....

Should have put it on a contrasting background, I guess......... the whole picture is too yellow.  It looks huge, but it's not. It's actually sort of dainty.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/ring.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 25, 2006, 01:25:01 AM
It's beautiful CBB!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 01:25:10 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Elaine"
http://tinyurl.com/yer9mr


Try it without the tiny url.  Just post the full link to the website.  If you want the picture to show up, just copy the url to the picture and add the IMG tags (not url tags)
(http://i22.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/7c/5e/3561_1.JPG) testing


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 01:26:35 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Elaine"
http://tinyurl.com/yer9mr


(http://i2.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/7c/5e/37fb_1.JPG)

(http://i21.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/7c/5e/32ac_1.JPG)

(http://i22.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/7c/5e/3561_1.JPG)
Thanks Klass, you got them all! At least I learned something new ! LOL!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on December 25, 2006, 01:26:53 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Angie!!! Merry Christmas girl! Mishy have a good sleep.


  Back at yah neighbor!!  :) :)
Congrats on your diamond.. Woooooo Hoooooooo!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 25, 2006, 01:27:12 AM
Very pretty Elaine!  When will you recieve it?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 01:27:45 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I don't have very good equipment to do this with, but here's the ring....

Should have put it on a contrasting background, I guess......... the whole picture is too yellow.  It looks huge, but it's not. It's actually sort of dainty.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/ring.jpg)
That is absolutely stunning! I say marry this guy!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 01:28:18 AM
All these rings you guys are posting are gorgeous!

We got back from church about 30 minutes ago, and I couldn't believe monkeys were still around talking. How great is that?  :D

The church service was sooooo beautiful. We are "high church" Episcopalians, so we always have loads of candles, bells, etc. Tonight, though, we had poinsettias and Christmas wreaths, and in addition to the choir we had trumpets and violins. Ahhhhh.....now I feel like I've celebrated Christmas.  :D  :D

Merry Christmas to all you wonderful monkeys!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 25, 2006, 01:28:31 AM
Thanks, Klaas! I love it!

Elaine, that's beautiful, and you got the buy of the century!

Night to everyone going to bed! Sleep well!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on December 25, 2006, 01:29:01 AM
CBB  very pretty ring honey..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on December 25, 2006, 01:30:34 AM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
All these rings you guys are posting are gorgeous!

We got back from church about 30 minutes ago, and I couldn't believe monkeys were still around talking. How great is that?  :D

The church service was sooooo beautiful. We are "high church" Episcopalians, so we always have loads of candles, bells, etc. Tonight, though, we had poinsettias and Christmas wreaths, and in addition to the choir we had trumpets and violins. Ahhhhh.....now I feel like I've celebrated Christmas.  :D  :D

Merry Christmas to all you wonderful monkeys!!!!!!!!!!!!


  How Awesome BT~!! Merry Christmas to yah chicky..!!
(hey. was the dude there in his fishnets?  LOL )
 Tell Simon I said Merry Christmas and not to brush yet.. LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 25, 2006, 01:32:02 AM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
CBB  very pretty ring honey..


Thanks, He's a keeper,  :wink:

Does anyone know where Beth is spending Christmas?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 25, 2006, 01:32:09 AM
Merry Christmas everyone.  I think I'm going to call it a night. Going to be a busy morning.

I just want you all to know it's been my honor to have shared the last 18+ months with all of you.  You guys are the best.

Goodnight, see you tomorrow off and on :wink:

P.S.  Hope Santa brings me my external hard drive :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 01:32:17 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Very pretty Elaine!  When will you recieve it?
I have it on right now, it is even better in person, I am just wearing the diamond. You really can get some steals on ebay, you just have to be careful, and beleive me I feel like I stole it at that price. She started the bidding low, hopeing to get a good final price she told me. I guess with Christmas people were buying other things so I made out good! I do feel bad though. I always worry about the other person, that is just how I am.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 01:32:31 AM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"

  How Awesome BT~!! Merry Christmas to yah chicky..!!
(hey. was the dude there in his fishnets?  LOL )
 Tell Simon I said Merry Christmas and not to brush yet.. LOL


Angie - the guy in the fishnets was not there - how disappointing! LOL

(Simon is playing his new video game - ssshhhh.....let's don't tell him how late it is.)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 01:33:50 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Merry Christmas everyone.  I think I'm going to call it a night. Going to be a busy morning.

I just want you all to know it's been my honor to have shared the last 18+ months with all of you.  You guys are the best.

Goodnight, see you tomorrow off and on :wink:

P.S.  Hope Santa brings me my external hard drive :lol:


Merry Christmas to you too, Klaas. Thanks for all the wonderful things you do for us! (And I'll definitely be buying one of those calendars. :wink: )


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on December 25, 2006, 01:35:40 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Merry Christmas everyone.  I think I'm going to call it a night. Going to be a busy morning.

I just want you all to know it's been my honor to have shared the last 18+ months with all of you.  You guys are the best.

Goodnight, see you tomorrow off and on :wink:

P.S.  Hope Santa brings me my external hard drive :lol:


  Night Klaas.. and I betcha Santa brings  your hard drive.. lol
Its been an honor posting with you Klaas.. TY for all that you do for everyone and for being here for us all and The family of Natalee.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 25, 2006, 01:35:47 AM
Oh, Klaas, have a wonderful Christmas and thank you for all you do, and are to us. I love you!

I'm going to get comfortable, and if I don't get back tonight, HUGS to you all!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 01:35:51 AM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
All these rings you guys are posting are gorgeous!

We got back from church about 30 minutes ago, and I couldn't believe monkeys were still around talking. How great is that?  :D

The church service was sooooo beautiful. We are "high church" Episcopalians, so we always have loads of candles, bells, etc. Tonight, though, we had poinsettias and Christmas wreaths, and in addition to the choir we had trumpets and violins. Ahhhhh.....now I feel like I've celebrated Christmas.  :D  :D

Merry Christmas to all you wonderful monkeys!!!!!!!!!!!!
Merry Christmas BTgirl! Loved the sock monkeys you got for a gift! I cannot beleive I am still here myself, LOL... I guess I was wound up tonight from my day!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on December 25, 2006, 01:36:39 AM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"

  How Awesome BT~!! Merry Christmas to yah chicky..!!
(hey. was the dude there in his fishnets?  LOL )
 Tell Simon I said Merry Christmas and not to brush yet.. LOL


Angie - the guy in the fishnets was not there - how disappointing! LOL

(Simon is playing his new video game - ssshhhh.....let's don't tell him how late it is.)

   

 ROFL.  hurry and turn the clocks back.  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 01:37:23 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Merry Christmas everyone.  I think I'm going to call it a night. Going to be a busy morning.

I just want you all to know it's been my honor to have shared the last 18+ months with all of you.  You guys are the best.

Goodnight, see you tomorrow off and on :wink:

P.S.  Hope Santa brings me my external hard drive :lol:
I hope you get it Klaas, and the pleasure is all ours, that we have a great mod like you!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on December 25, 2006, 01:37:27 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Oh, Klaas, have a wonderful Christmas and thank you for all you do, and are to us. I love you!

I'm going to get comfortable, and if I don't get back tonight, HUGS to you all!


  Back at yah CBB!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 01:47:08 AM
I have a new love in my life - my new laptop! This thing is so quiet and fast - I don't know how I lived without it for so long.

It's even got that thing where if I want to I can subscribe through Verizon and use it in a hot tub in Vegas (as they say in the commercials). How cool is that?!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 01:50:27 AM
Goodnight Monkeys, Santa just flew by my window I had better get under the covers. Spooky, Let the lights on tonight, and Merry Christmas to you!!......I don't know where Beth is spending her Christmas, but wherever it is I hope she can somehow have a good day! We love you Natalee and will not give up on you. Giving up on justice for you is not an option, no way, no how.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 01:50:34 AM
Night Monkeys. See you tomorrow.  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 25, 2006, 01:53:30 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Very pretty Elaine!  When will you recieve it?
I have it on right now, it is even better in person, I am just wearing the diamond. You really can get some steals on ebay, you just have to be careful, and beleive me I feel like I stole it at that price. She started the bidding low, hopeing to get a good final price she told me. I guess with Christmas people were buying other things so I made out good! I do feel bad though. I always worry about the other person, that is just how I am.


I know what you mean about worrying about the other person, Elaine. I could never be a salesperson.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 01:53:41 AM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Angie, I think that would have been a sweet picture.  Can you take a picture of you and him tomorrow, with you sitting on his lap in his santawear?


 You read my mind Tyler..
Kinda feel werid sitting on my dads lap at age 41.. LOL


It would still be a treasure not to be passed up.


Title: Filters
Post by: IBE on December 25, 2006, 01:55:32 AM
Tylergal

Your lungs will enjoy the gifts. I have had one for years. although it currently isn't working. When it was, I had more energy, less illness, a better frame of mind and slept better.

A new on is on my 2007 list.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all the Great Monkeys!

Love, IBE, the dog and the cat


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 01:55:52 AM
Quote from: "mishy"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Men can be soooooobrain dead when it comes to gifts!

The ring is from a dear friend who is male. But, he's not typical. Maybe the "practical" side of men is attached to the straight gene, 'cause that would disqualify him!

'Course you give up some pretty important things in exchange for that "thoughtfulness"....... :lol:


CBB, sounds like a great friend...A man who remembers what you mentioned in passing...He must be gay  8)  8)  8)


Hey! I can do that, just need a beautiful babe to take me up on it.


Title: Forgot to add
Post by: IBE on December 25, 2006, 01:59:34 AM
Forgot to add the stuff (air things) from Sharper Image don't replace a good man, though  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 02:01:31 AM
Leslie and Kat_Gram the truck pic was for the Canadians, it is a Canadian manufactured logging truck with Canadian flags flying on it, just thought it was kinda cute.

The pic comes from a set of pics at a British Columbia truck show that I am hosting on my site.

http://carnut.com/show/06/dts/_dtsm1.html


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 02:02:05 AM
Sam, how did you know my name is George?


Title: Carnut
Post by: IBE on December 25, 2006, 02:03:34 AM
Carnut

Glad you finished your present wrapping. Don't forget to put the wish you had in the last post on your lists from things in 2007! :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 02:04:03 AM
Got the ole Yule Log burning in the fireplace and now setting back and taking it easy, got all my Christmas activities overwith for now.

Won't need to get the vacums out for another year now.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 25, 2006, 02:05:20 AM
Goodnight, monkeys. Merry Christmas!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 25, 2006, 02:05:28 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "mishy"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Men can be soooooobrain dead when it comes to gifts!

The ring is from a dear friend who is male. But, he's not typical. Maybe the "practical" side of men is attached to the straight gene, 'cause that would disqualify him!

'Course you give up some pretty important things in exchange for that "thoughtfulness"....... :lol:


CBB, sounds like a great friend...A man who remembers what you mentioned in passing...He must be gay  8)  8)  8)


Hey! I can do that, just need a beautiful babe to take me up on it.


Did you walk into that one on purpose, Carnut?
'Cause that's precisely what he can't quite manage............. :lol:  :oops:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: IBE on December 25, 2006, 02:47:50 AM
Carnut it's on your web site. :oops:  Off to Photobucket to see if I can't crop and reduce a family photo.

It's now just Christmas Morning here! May we have Peace on Earth!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on December 25, 2006, 02:52:13 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Angie, I think that would have been a sweet picture.  Can you take a picture of you and him tomorrow, with you sitting on his lap in his santawear?


 You read my mind Tyler..
Kinda feel werid sitting on my dads lap at age 41.. LOL


It would still be a treasure not to be passed up.


 I know Carnut.. and will give in. lol
Have a Merry Chrsitmas hon.. hope Santa is good to you!!!!


Title: Christmas Story movie
Post by: IBE on December 25, 2006, 03:13:39 AM
The channel==TBS--is showing the Christmas Story movie
 all night and maybe all day.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 05:10:00 AM
Exchanged presents tonight at my house.

My present for niece in law was the Scared Monkeys Cookbook.

After the Cookbook was opened it seemed to become the hit of the 'show'.

SIL and Niece in law almost couldn't get away from the Cookbook to open their other presents.

Geese, sure never thought it would go over that well.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Katysmom on December 25, 2006, 08:02:46 AM
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: friend of monkeys on December 25, 2006, 08:04:46 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Merry Christmas everyone.  I think I'm going to call it a night. Going to be a busy morning.

I just want you all to know it's been my honor to have shared the last 18+ months with all of you.  You guys are the best.

Goodnight, see you tomorrow off and on :wink:

P.S.  Hope Santa brings me my external hard drive :lol:



 :shock: I am hoping Santa can fix my " MOTHERBOARD" :shock:

doesn't look good!

Merry Christmas Monkeys


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: sharon on December 25, 2006, 08:07:27 AM
Natalee brought us here and Natalee keeps us here.

Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah, Joyous Kwaanza

Tom, Red, Mrs & Klaas -- thanks for all you do.

Monkeys -- may the joy, peace and love of the season be yours all the year through

Warmest wishes for Peace on Earth

(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/keeber/Peace20On20Earth.jpg)


Title: HoHoHO
Post by: Leslie on December 25, 2006, 08:45:20 AM
:D  :lol: Seasons Greetings everyone!    :lol:  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: IndyDan on December 25, 2006, 08:55:15 AM
MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 25, 2006, 09:11:21 AM
Monkey Family,

What a glorious day!

See Car, you do have good taste!

FOM, hope your motherboard does not give out!

Mom is doing great this morning! She's mad as all get out, which is a very, very good sign!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Florida on December 25, 2006, 09:30:03 AM
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/keeber/Peace20On20Earth.jpg)

Sharon:  Love This Photo!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: GreatOwl on December 25, 2006, 09:31:26 AM
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/phfreund/holiday/Christmas/15-2.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: nonesuche on December 25, 2006, 10:17:48 AM
Klaas if Santa forgot your hard drive you let us know, I'll get you one !! You so deserve a wonderful Christmas !!  :D

To all the monkeys I wish you a wonderful day and be safe to those traveling. Justins what great news that your mother is up and kicking today, go mom !

(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k101/daisysistah/127463rsdwvezuzw.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 25, 2006, 10:38:27 AM
Merry Christmas Monkeys!  Hope everyone has a joyful, happy day and all good monkeys get what they want from Santa.

Justins, glad to hear Mom is doing great today!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on December 25, 2006, 11:10:25 AM
Merry Christmas Everyone~!!

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/Angiex911dsptchr/3-2.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 11:22:47 AM
Merry Christmas to all the monkeys. Wub you all!!!!!

(http://bestsmileys.com/christmas4/5.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 25, 2006, 11:29:46 AM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/MerryChristmassign.gif)

TO ALL THE MONKEYS!

AND MAY
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/SpiritofChristmas.gif)

BE YOURS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 25, 2006, 11:37:58 AM
Great News, Justins!  :D

I was making coffee this morning, and was washing a few dishes waiting for it to finish when I happened to look out toward the windows..............
There were 5 wild turkeys in the back yard!!!
I just watched the number of them grow as they came up the hill. Total of 18 or 19; I wasn't sure, I may have counted one twice!

My son came in the front door in time to see them. I got a real kick out of it!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on December 25, 2006, 11:47:39 AM
MERRY CHRISTMAS all you magnificent monkeys!!

O/T - I just read where James Brown died this AM.  How sad.  He did so much for the children of Augusta, GA, his birth place.  I met him several times when I was 21.  He used to stay at the hotel where I worked in downtown Atlanta.  He caught my show (tap dance) a few times and personally invited me to be on Soul Train.  I was honored to be invited but never took him up on it.  RIP our Godfather of Soul.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 25, 2006, 11:50:25 AM
MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!

Quick drive by as I'm on my way to inlaws house!  Santa brought me an external hard drive, more RAM, a flash drive, printer cartridges, a digital photo album and a new blouse!  I'm so stoked! :lol:

See you all in a few hours!  MERRY CHRISTMAS!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 11:53:59 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!

Quick drive by as I'm on my way to inlaws house!  Santa brought me an external hard drive, more RAM, a flash drive, printer cartridges, a digital photo album and a new blouse!  I'm so stoked! :lol:

See you all in a few hours!  MERRY CHRISTMAS!


Woo Hoo, Klaas!!!

Santa knows you've been an extra good girl!!!!!!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: mishy on December 25, 2006, 01:29:36 PM
Merry Christmas Everyone!!

Klaas, so glad you got your external drive...You're gonna get some good use outta that  :lol:

And so glad Justinsmama's mama is doing better...

Great to see you oh Great Owl!! We miss you  :wink:

Elaine and CBB, the rings are GORGEOUSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

I got a digital camera and a printer that apparently the camera just sits on top of, and all sorts of accessories to go with it. Have no idea what to do with them all, guess I'm going to have to get out the book :?:

Little Pooh got a Cars racetrack and is watching her Cars movie right now...She's really jazzed!! No fussing or fighting over toys this morning...the kids have been sharing and playing like little angels. :shock:  :shock: Wonder if Santa cast a spell on them?

Have a great day monkeys!!

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/mishyp/santainthebuff.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: mishy on December 25, 2006, 01:31:24 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Great News, Justins!  :D

I was making coffee this morning, and was washing a few dishes waiting for it to finish when I happened to look out toward the windows..............
There were 5 wild turkeys in the back yard!!!
I just watched the number of them grow as they came up the hill. Total of 18 or 19; I wasn't sure, I may have counted one twice!

My son came in the front door in time to see them. I got a real kick out of it!


What a cool thing to see CBB!!! I'd love to see a pic of all those turkeys!! Have you ever seen them before?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 02:12:45 PM
It sounds as though many monkeys are having wonderful Christmases and some miracles sprinkled in regards the health of their loved ones.

Let's all pray for this to be a day of peace and joy for Beth and Dave, their families, and a miracle for the upcoming year, in their lives, that will give them the peace and comfort they so deserve.

Let's not forget to give thanks to Him who gave us this opportunity to meet and support Natalee's family and may she be looking down from above on us.  Perhaps she is the angel that has provided miracles for some of our loved ones and us in our days of darkness, where we saw light.

May our special angel work in the lives of Beth & Dave and their families and extended families, Monkeys included, in giving them the best they could ask for in 2007.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 25, 2006, 02:12:54 PM
Quote from: "mishy"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Great News, Justins!  :D

I was making coffee this morning, and was washing a few dishes waiting for it to finish when I happened to look out toward the windows..............
There were 5 wild turkeys in the back yard!!!
I just watched the number of them grow as they came up the hill. Total of 18 or 19; I wasn't sure, I may have counted one twice!

My son came in the front door in time to see them. I got a real kick out of it!


What a cool thing to see CBB!!! I'd love to see a pic of all those turkeys!! Have you ever seen them before?


Mishy, that's the cutest Santa I've ever seen!  :D
I have seen 2 or 3 wild turkeys together, on occasion, over the 20 years I've lived here. It's probably been 5 years since I've seen any at all, and that was when I was driving on the road behind the house. This is a residential neighborhood, but it's at the base of a Mountain Ridge that is a designated park and wildlife reserve. Here's a link with a couple of pictures at the park. My house is on the backside of what's pictured.
http://www.baysmountain.com/
There are no structures on the mountain; just trees. I'm used to seeing red and gray fox, racoon, and the deer herds are almost a nuisance, but the turkeys seem to be more wary of people.
I need a good camera!!! I had plenty of time to take pictures, and the entire back wall of the den adjacent to the kitchen is windows. I'm going to have to do something about that!
I looked on the web, and this is exactly what they looked like. These were listed in my area. It's hard to tell how big they are from the pic, but they're BIG! Apparently it was a good size flock; the average size flock is around a dozen.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/turkey2.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LilPuma on December 25, 2006, 02:19:24 PM
Quote from: klaasend
According to NORAD, Santa is in the St. Louis area right now!  :lol:

 :lol: I checked last night around 10:30 CST and he was in New York.  I knew he'd be here shortly thereafter.  According to Klaas's post here, he must have come by my place around midnight.   :P


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LilPuma on December 25, 2006, 02:26:30 PM
:oops: I hate when I screw up simple quotes.  

I do hope a certain monkey got more than air filters from Santa  :shock:   If not, let's remember the wise words of Dr. Suess:  
Maybe Christmas doesn't come from a store
Maybe Christmas is about a whole lot more!  

(something like that)

Peace, love and light, Monkeys.  Merry Christmas.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LilPuma on December 25, 2006, 02:29:47 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Great News, Justins!  :D

I was making coffee this morning, and was washing a few dishes waiting for it to finish when I happened to look out toward the windows..............
There were 5 wild turkeys in the back yard!!!
I just watched the number of them grow as they came up the hill. Total of 18 or 19; I wasn't sure, I may have counted one twice!

My son came in the front door in time to see them. I got a real kick out of it!


Saw the pic you posted.  That is so cool!  
(As a vegetarian, I'm also glad to see they aren't all dead yet.   :wink: )


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LilPuma on December 25, 2006, 02:36:29 PM
Well, I seem to be talking to a pile of bananas, not Monkeys, so I'll log out with the following question for you computer whiz kids:  

Is there a software program called Botters or something that lets a person block another person from accessing certain Internet sites?  I'm not talking about parental controls, but where a user could do this to another unrelated user.  What I found when I googled didn't give me any answers.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 02:38:37 PM
Hi monkeys. I'm sitting in mom and dad's living room talking to you from the new lappy. I opened it up to show them, and it found a connection right away. How cool is that?!

CBB - I love the turkey pic. A couple of years ago we had a turkey with an injured leg that we fed with cracked corn all winter cause we were afraid it couldn't get around enough to find it's own food. :oops:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on December 25, 2006, 02:38:52 PM
Hello Monkeys!
Just dropping in to wish everyone a very Merry Christmas today.
Everyone please be safe.
I love you all!
Merry Christmas
 :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 25, 2006, 02:44:41 PM
Quote from: BTgirl
Hi monkeys. I'm sitting in mom and dad's living room talking to you from the new lappy. I opened it up to show them, and it found a connection right away. How cool is that?!

quote]



MERRY CHRISTMAS, ALL!


BT,
So glad you are happy with your lappy!

But I don't understand this.  It just finds its own wireless connection?  That is just really something as I have thought it would be very difficult to find wireless connections.  Does it run slowly compared to your non-lappy?  Maybe I want a lappy, too.   :D Always thought they were not capable of everything a full sized would do.

Yours sounds wonderful  Do you mind saying what brand, not the model, just the brand?

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 02:47:19 PM
Quote from: Anna
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Hi monkeys. I'm sitting in mom and dad's living room talking to you from the new lappy. I opened it up to show them, and it found a connection right away. How cool is that?!

quote]



MERRY CHRISTMAS, ALL!


BT,
So glad you are happy with your lappy!

But I don't understand this.  It just finds its own wireless connection?  That is just really something as I have thought it would be very difficult to find wireless connections.  Does it run slowly compared to your non-lappy?  Maybe I want a lappy, too.   :D Always thought they were not capable of everything a full sized would do.

Yours sounds wonderful  Do you mind saying what brand, not the model, just the brand?

.


Hi Anna,

It's a Lenovo Thinkpad T60, and it's very, very fast indeed. I don't actually understand how it found it's own connection, but it did. As soon as I turned it on a screen popped up and said it had found a connection through "linksys" and did I want to connect. I told it yes, and it connected instantly. I LOVE this thing! :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 02:52:02 PM
Quote from: BTgirl
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Hi monkeys. I'm sitting in mom and dad's living room talking to you from the new lappy. I opened it up to show them, and it found a connection right away. How cool is that?!

quote]



MERRY CHRISTMAS, ALL!


BT,
So glad you are happy with your lappy!

But I don't understand this.  It just finds its own wireless connection?  That is just really something as I have thought it would be very difficult to find wireless connections.  Does it run slowly compared to your non-lappy?  Maybe I want a lappy, too.   :D Always thought they were not capable of everything a full sized would do.

Yours sounds wonderful  Do you mind saying what brand, not the model, just the brand?

.


Hi Anna,

It's a Lenovo Thinkpad T60, and it's very, very fast indeed. I don't actually understand how it found it's own connection, but it did. As soon as I turned it on a screen popped up and said it had found a connection through "linksys" and did I want to connect. I told it yes, and it connected instantly. I LOVE this thing! :D


Ya might want to pay a little attention to what you are connecting to.

It could be a public WiFi from a nearby fastfood joint of something like that or it could be an unprotected home WiFi setup that the person dosen't realize is open to the world, kinda like some of the photo sites where folks don't realize they are shared with the world.

You might be using a neighbors connection without their permission so to speak.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 02:54:04 PM
Quote from: Anna
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Hi monkeys. I'm sitting in mom and dad's living room talking to you from the new lappy. I opened it up to show them, and it found a connection right away. How cool is that?!

quote]



MERRY CHRISTMAS, ALL!


BT,
So glad you are happy with your lappy!

But I don't understand this.  It just finds its own wireless connection?  That is just really something as I have thought it would be very difficult to find wireless connections.  Does it run slowly compared to your non-lappy?  Maybe I want a lappy, too.   :D Always thought they were not capable of everything a full sized would do.

Yours sounds wonderful  Do you mind saying what brand, not the model, just the brand?

.


Never fear Anna today's laptops are quite capable of doing anything you might want to do on a computer.

I have converted over completely to laptops. My two webservers are notebooks, and both my keypounding machines are laptops.

I've been using nothing but laptops for keypounding and development work for near 10yrs now.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 02:54:46 PM
Quote from: Carnut
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Hi monkeys. I'm sitting in mom and dad's living room talking to you from the new lappy. I opened it up to show them, and it found a connection right away. How cool is that?!

quote]



MERRY CHRISTMAS, ALL!


BT,
So glad you are happy with your lappy!

But I don't understand this.  It just finds its own wireless connection?  That is just really something as I have thought it would be very difficult to find wireless connections.  Does it run slowly compared to your non-lappy?  Maybe I want a lappy, too.   :D Always thought they were not capable of everything a full sized would do.

Yours sounds wonderful  Do you mind saying what brand, not the model, just the brand?

.


Hi Anna,

It's a Lenovo Thinkpad T60, and it's very, very fast indeed. I don't actually understand how it found it's own connection, but it did. As soon as I turned it on a screen popped up and said it had found a connection through "linksys" and did I want to connect. I told it yes, and it connected instantly. I LOVE this thing! :D


Ya might want to pay a little attention to what you are connecting to.

It could be a public WiFi from a nearby fastfood joint of something like that or it could be an unprotected home WiFi setup that the person dosen't realize is open to the world, kinda like some of the photo sites where folks don't realize they are shared with the world.

You might be using a neighbors connection without their permission so to speak.


Hey Carnut - mom and dad live out in the country like I do, so no fast food places nearby. They speculate I'm on their neighbor Kirk's connection, on account of he works from home and has a fast home internet connection.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 25, 2006, 02:56:51 PM
BT,

Well, it sounds just great!  I may look more into lappies as I have always thought they just wouldn't do as much as a regular computer but by now it seems they do.  

And best of all, they are portable which is the whole point.  #2 son has abandoned his regular computer and is totally lappy now so they must work really well as he is very fussy about things like that.

Now if you took it to work, they would not be able to see what you and typed and to whom, etc... . . . . but not trying to give you any ideas about goofing off, lol!

So glad all the monkeys had such nice Christmases.  Mine was just wonderful with my family, most of them, and so happy to still have my mother in good health, etc. at almost 90.  

But I must admit I am really exhausted and fondly considering a nap.
BT, we are having some of the most dreary weather of the year now.  Good thing you have your lappie to keep you company as it is too dreary and chilly to go out today, at least for me.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 02:59:53 PM
Anna

That's a great idea about work. They just installed something at work last week that will let us use wireless anywhere in the building. Woo Hoo!

It IS dreary outside, and tomorrow is supposed to be really, really cold. Simon and I have been waiting for a cold day so we can finally build a real fire in the fireplace, so I'm looking forward to the cold weather.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 25, 2006, 03:00:44 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
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Hey Carnut - mom and dad live out in the country like I do, so no fast food places nearby. They speculate I'm on their neighbor Kirk's connection, on account of he works from home and has a fast home internet connection.


Well, Captain Kirk will just have to learn to share!  Does it cost him any money to use his connection?  I sort of doubt it but then could he see any part of your connection, like that a computer connected to a certain other computer or site on any kind of record of his connections?  

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 03:02:37 PM
Carnut - do you know the answers the Anna's questions about the connection?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 03:04:14 PM
Quote from: BTgirl
Quote from: "Carnut"

Hey Carnut - mom and dad live out in the country like I do, so no fast food places nearby. They speculate I'm on their neighbor Kirk's connection, on account of he works from home and has a fast home internet connection.


Neato, hope he is ok with that. Course it's kinda up to him to setup protection for his own connection if he wants to keep it private.

Maybe he's just a nice guy and dosen't mind anyone using it.

Some folks can get quite anal over such things if they aren't aware or don't realize their connection is shared with everyone until they do something to restrict it. Same as folks on cable connections, everything is shared and most folks don't realize it and get upset finding that other folks may be looking at their stuff.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: nonesuche on December 25, 2006, 03:04:31 PM
I'm so glad Klaas had a big visit from Santa  :D  :D  :D !!!!!!!!!!

BT, my lappy finds the wireless connection too, plus there are keyfobs now with wireless locators, daughter has one. Anna mine is a Toshiba Oosmio and I do love it too.

Laptops have come a very long way in the last few years, many are equal in data capability to a desktop as well.

My daughter gave me something I thought I'd share, a book she found about mothers and daughters. She said she bought it for once she read this quote she had to buy it for me.

"Nowhere is it written that a mother and her daughter must be friends......which makes it even better when they are."

I feel sure that Natalee would have found that quote so meaningful as well and what a crying shame she isn't here to share that with Beth.  :cry:

Justice for Natalee, I pray the new year brings justice for her and for her family.

Merry Christmas everyone.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 03:07:09 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Carnut - do you know the answers the Anna's questions about the connection?


Kinda depends on whose doing what, if you  start surfing a bunch of porno sites it will be his IP address recorded as accessing them.

If he is into heave connection useage such as downloading movies and such and you are connected at the same time you will be using up some of his bandwidth and slowing him down a bit.

All internet connections are paid for by someone, so you are using his connection for free at the moment.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 03:07:11 PM
Quote from: Carnut
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Carnut"

Hey Carnut - mom and dad live out in the country like I do, so no fast food places nearby. They speculate I'm on their neighbor Kirk's connection, on account of he works from home and has a fast home internet connection.


Neato, hope he is ok with that. Course it's kinda up to him to setup protection for his own connection if he wants to keep it private.

Maybe he's just a nice guy and dosen't mind anyone using it.

Some folks can get quite anal over such things if they aren't aware or don't realize their connection is shared with everyone until they do something to restrict it. Same as folks on cable connections, everything is shared and most folks don't realize it and get upset finding that other folks may be looking at their stuff.


Carnut - Mom and dad are in their 80s and Kirk has adopted them, and he won't care if their darling daughter is using his internet connection.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: nonesuche on December 25, 2006, 03:10:20 PM
Let that be a lesson to you BT  :wink: don't be stealing any wireless connections girl  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 03:11:13 PM
Quote from: "nonesuche"
Let that be a lesson to you BT  :wink: don't be stealing any wireless connections girl  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Hey - Santa already brought me the lappy. It doesn't matter if I'm bad now or not.  :P


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 25, 2006, 03:12:26 PM
Well, certainly something to look into in the future.  Not even sure what is available locally, not as much as in Chattanooga I am sure but still might be worth a look/see.

Yes, I am so happy for Klaas as she hit the JackPot for Christmas but then we all know she has been too busy to be naughty.

And the Front Page looks wonderful!  Don't forget to check it out, including the Reds Top The Christmas Programs!

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: nonesuche on December 25, 2006, 03:12:34 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "nonesuche"
Let that be a lesson to you BT  :wink: don't be stealing any wireless connections girl  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Hey - Santa already brought me the lappy. It doesn't matter if I'm bad now or not.  :P


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: nonesuche on December 25, 2006, 03:15:12 PM
okay who wants a slice of pecan pie?  :P


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 03:16:42 PM
Quote from: "nonesuche"
okay who wants a slice of pecan pie?  :P


That sounds really good and I'd take some if I weren't full of mom's coconut cake. She cracked open the coconut and ground it so the cake would be fresh.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 03:17:27 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
Well, certainly something to look into in the future.  Not even sure what is available locally, not as much as in Chattanooga I am sure but still might be worth a look/see.

Yes, I am so happy for Klaas as she hit the JackPot for Christmas but then we all know she has been too busy to be naughty.

And the Front Page looks wonderful!  Don't forget to check it out, including the Reds Top The Christmas Programs!

.


Well, you don't have to use the WiFi, it's just included as part of most laptops
now a days, they still have an RJ45 port on the back so you still connect to a regular ethernet/lan connection to the net just like a desktop.

Course you can setup your own WiFi at home by connecting a WiFi receiver to you internet connection just for convenience around the home.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 03:19:03 PM
Quote from: "nonesuche"
okay who wants a slice of pecan pie?  :P


I got two apple pies given me for Christmas, pointed out to me that they were made with none sugar sweetener because of my diabetes. Not real sure I'm gonna like that.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 25, 2006, 03:20:25 PM
I'll take some of that pecan pie! Will be my second of the day!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 03:21:17 PM
Hi Justins. I've been reading all your updates on your mom. How is she doing this afternoon?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BIGORANGECRUSH on December 25, 2006, 03:23:55 PM
Quote from: "nonesuche"
okay who wants a slice of pecan pie?  :P


Love some! Is that cons ore cans? :wink:  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 03:26:47 PM
Dad is fussing at me because I'm on the internet while I'm trying to talk to him too. He says I can't talk to him and talk on the internet at the same time. Pfffftttt!!!!!! He used to say I couldn't listen to the TV and do homework at the same time, but I showed him.  :lol:

Anyway, I'm going to get off here and talk to him a while.

See you monkeys later.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 25, 2006, 03:27:06 PM
Sounds great, None!  Think I will brew up a little of the fancy coffees son and DL sent to me.  Skip nap that way and get all hyper on the pie and caffeine, I might actually make a movement toward putting some of these things away, lol!  

I am totally lazy today!  Just wanna lie around and watch goofy stuff on TV.   :D

Saw a recipe for chocolate pecan pie recently.  That sounds interesting, too.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Cat on December 25, 2006, 03:27:52 PM
Hey Carnut,we use the same sweetner,so I wish you luck.Hey CBB,tell the turkeys I will be looking for one.It has been a good Christmas,my pride is here and we gained a lioness.It is nice.I haven't even Chatley Browned it up to much.Oh Female Monkeys ,hints are good.CAT


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: nonesuche on December 25, 2006, 03:28:06 PM
BT, yum my mother makes fresh coconut cake too but this year she's let me do all the cooking  :shock:  :lol: but we do have cranberry apple pie also, but carnut like my cookies it's not artificial sweeteners. Maybe you'll be surprised and it's delicious, splenda disagrees with my tummy but it is tastier than some think it is.

Anna, so true, Klaas only gets ten minute breaks for grocery shopping so unless she ran over someone with her PT cruiser, she's not been naughty  :lol:

BT I need to send you a link, daughter surprised me with a lappy table that goes anywhere, so just know I'll be in bed typing tonight myself now  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on December 25, 2006, 03:28:49 PM
Pie sounds good  sistah~!!  :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 25, 2006, 03:29:15 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "nonesuche"
okay who wants a slice of pecan pie?  :P


I got two apple pies given me for Christmas, pointed out to me that they were made with none sugar sweetener because of my diabetes. Not real sure I'm gonna like that.


Well, it's better than a coma, I'm sure.   :roll:

And a very thoughtful thing that someone did for you.  

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: nonesuche on December 25, 2006, 03:29:15 PM
Quote from: "BIGORANGECRUSH"
Quote from: "nonesuche"
okay who wants a slice of pecan pie?  :P


Love some! Is that cons ore cans? :wink:  :wink:


Merry Christmas BOCPhililovesherbert  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on December 25, 2006, 03:30:55 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "nonesuche"
okay who wants a slice of pecan pie?  :P


I got two apple pies given me for Christmas, pointed out to me that they were made with none sugar sweetener because of my diabetes. Not real sure I'm gonna like that.


Well, it's better than a coma, I'm sure.   :roll:

And a very thoughtful thing that someone did for you.  

.


 LOL Anna~!
Hope Santa was good to you~!! Did you get anything special??


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 25, 2006, 03:38:57 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
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 LOL Anna~!
Hope Santa was good to you~!! Did you get anything special??



Yes, Angie, I got to have my mother another Christmas which at her age is something!  She is still a very beautiful woman and looks no where near her age but did have to have pacemaker replaced a couple of weeks ago.  

But as for gifts, nothing special and two kids are still students so always broke and from them I get only hugs and a card but am thankful they are both well and staying in school even when it is difficult for them.

I got four 90 phone cards for cell phone, coffees and expresso maker, money (as I am always running short---cha-ching!) gift certificate for dog supplies, and small items like gloves, socks and pretty silk scarf.  But nothing big or important this year.  

I think I am at the phase in life where I am trying to reduce possessions instead of add to them.  After first of the year first son will have larger house and I hope to encourage him to take some of the things and especially his own as I seem to be some sort of storage facility for all three of them.   :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: nonesuche on December 25, 2006, 03:38:58 PM
Angelina, please come eat pie with us  :D

Was Santa good to you?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 03:44:05 PM
Angie you get that Santa pic yet? Need to see it posted when you get it done.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on December 25, 2006, 03:44:58 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
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 LOL Anna~!
Hope Santa was good to you~!! Did you get anything special??



Yes, Angie, I got to have my mother another Christmas which at her age is something!  She is still a very beautiful woman and looks no where near her age but did have to have pacemaker replaced a couple of weeks ago.  

But as for gifts, nothing special and two kids are still students so always broke and from them I get only hugs and a card but am thankful they are both well and staying in school even when it is difficult for them.

I got four 90 phone cards for cell phone, coffees and expresso maker, money (as I am always running short---cha-ching!) gift certificate for dog supplies, and small items like gloves, socks and pretty silk scarf.  But nothing big or important this year.  

I think I am at the phase in life where I am trying to reduce possessions instead of add to them.  After first of the year first son will have larger house and I hope to encourage him to take some of the things and especially his own as I seem to be some sort of storage facility for all three of them.   :wink:



 I feel the same about my Grandmother as you do your mom.   The phone cards and all your other gifts sound splendid~!!
AND I do know how you feel about neing a storage unti.. LOL
My daughter has alot of her things here  yet since she got married.
Even boxes in a closet of things she takes to flea markets to sell. ughhh!
 Ummm.. I just realized.. I still have some of my things at my parents..LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on December 25, 2006, 03:47:47 PM
Quote from: "nonesuche"
Angelina, please come eat pie with us  :D

Was Santa good to you?


 Sistah if I could. Id be there in a second.. hugging you Nana and the kids!
Santa was good.. got mainly $$ and a few real cute things from Amanda and Jason. (she got me a really cute Boyds Bear lamp) I collect Boyds Bears.. :)  My mother got me one too.. its adorable..  (guess I still have a bit of kid in me)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on December 25, 2006, 03:50:04 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Angie you get that Santa pic yet? Need to see it posted when you get it done.


 No  :( :( :( and I dont think I will get to this evening. :( :(
 I told my mom I will be over tomorrow.. Dad can get suited up :)
My plans for the evening got shot in the arse.. :(


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 25, 2006, 03:56:00 PM
O/T
Was surprised the Zoo Cam is working today.  Looks as though they have put down strips of that kind of tape to prevent slipping to help her learn to walk and get those chubby back legs to working.   :D

http://www.zooatlanta.org/animals_panda_cam.php4

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Appeals on December 25, 2006, 04:01:21 PM
ANNA, did you see the latest AHATA Newsletter where they are bemoaning the fact that Aruba's crime is being reported instantly on the internet?  Who do you think they are referring to?   :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Appeals on December 25, 2006, 04:02:18 PM
Excuse my manners...

Merry Christmas to Anna and Carnut.  And anybody else who is monitoring but not logged on.  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on December 25, 2006, 04:04:53 PM
Merry Christmas to you Appeals  :)

Carnut.. Dad in his get up.. LOL

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/Angiex911dsptchr/HPIM1783.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 04:05:32 PM
Quote from: "Appeals"
ANNA, did you see the latest AHATA Newsletter where they are bemoaning the fact that Aruba's crime is being reported instantly on the internet?  Who do you think they are referring to?   :wink:


Hummm, wonder if they are gonna do anything about the crimes?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on December 25, 2006, 04:05:40 PM
OOPS.. sorry I blowed the margins..:(


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Appeals on December 25, 2006, 04:05:43 PM
Looks like everybody is off tending to other Christmas things.  I guess I'll go put my laundry in the dryer


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Appeals on December 25, 2006, 04:07:09 PM
Okay, changed my mind.  I was not as alone as I thought.  :lol:

Merry Christmas to you too Angie.  Carnut, what do you think?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 04:08:05 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
OOPS.. sorry I blowed the margins..:(


Don't think anyone will mind the margins.

Looks like a bunch of Santas there, but no Angie.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 25, 2006, 04:12:31 PM
Quote from: "Appeals"
ANNA, did you see the latest AHATA Newsletter where they are bemoaning the fact that Aruba's crime is being reported instantly on the internet?  Who do you think they are referring to?   :wink:



No, I did NOT see that!   :shock: Well, now there's a clue as to why so many hits, lol.

Probably makes it ever so much harder to lie and say they have no crime.  Well, I need to check that out.  Very interesting and I am just so sorry but this is the information age.

News of the crime in this country and other is reported instantly on the internet as well, just the way it works.   :wink:

Thanks for the tip, have not seen that!

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Appeals on December 25, 2006, 04:13:38 PM
ANGIE, be sure to get that pic with you on your Dad's lap before the holiday is over.  In coming years, bet you will be so glad you have it.

What happened to your plans for the evening?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Appeals on December 25, 2006, 04:14:51 PM
ANNA, GT brought it in to BFN.  A lot of other interesting things in it too.  Do you want me to see if I can bring it over?  Is that allowed?  Klaas?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 04:18:01 PM
Quote from: "Appeals"
Okay, changed my mind.  I was not as alone as I thought.  :lol:

Merry Christmas to you too Angie.  Carnut, what do you think?


Guess they're gonna have just start having more arubacides and fewer murders.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: nonesuche on December 25, 2006, 04:19:20 PM
Appeals-

Thank you for that info, wow that has to make msmarples and anna feel really good, much less Klaas and Red and Tom . Nothing like being the thorn in the side of AHATA - wooohooo !!

Angie I didn't know about the baker bears, how sweet and I'm glad you had a good xmas.

Things are getting busy again here with family and neices and nephew, so hope everyone has a great end to their day !


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Appeals on December 25, 2006, 04:25:46 PM
Quote from: "nonesuche"
Appeals-

Thank you for that info, wow that has to make msmarples and anna feel really good, much less Klaas and Red and Tom . Nothing like being the thorn in the side of AHATA - wooohooo !!

Angie I didn't know about the baker bears, how sweet and I'm glad you had a good xmas.

Things are getting busy again here with family and neices and nephew, so hope everyone has a great end to their day !


Hi NONE, glad to see you had a few minutes to check in.  Hope you are having a wonderful Christmas with your family.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on December 25, 2006, 04:45:12 PM
LOL yep Carnut.. Lotsa Santas and no Ang.. I was taking the photo of my baby nephew. lol

Appeals.. was suppose to go to my brothers. (which I seen him and his wife and the baby last night.. and am glad for that)
 My son isnt feeling well today.. he was put on some meds recently.. and I have to watch him. I wont leave him here alone for he gets himself into mischief.  Hes 17..  Pfffffffffftttttttt. Not feeling well.. and he made a big mistake of saying to me.. You guys can still go.. I will stay here myself.
 LOL  Ummm Nope.. dont think so... !


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 25, 2006, 04:47:53 PM
I just trotted over to BFN and posted a link to the M&C Thread for them to see as well.  I have posted it there before but since I seldom post, they prolly just forgot about it.

Hey, Aruba, it's called Freedom of the Press and Free Speech, get over it!  See what your failure to investigate has produced?  You are now under scrutiny to see if this is what happens with all crime there or if Natalee was singled out for this horrendous treatment by those whose job it is to bring justice.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 25, 2006, 05:02:44 PM
Off to feed my doggies their Christmas Dinner.  They are getting lots of little bits of ham and turkey in their regular food.  None of them have sensitive stomachs and it's Christmas so they get a treat, too.

Will check back in later if I am not waylayed by yet another movie, lol!

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 25, 2006, 05:15:43 PM
And Thank You Appeals,

I posted excerpt and links in the Murder and Crime Thread to that info and the thread at BFN as well as a link over there to the M&C Thread here.

Yes, it would appear we have ruffled a few feathers.  They should be glad we are not suing for false advertising with their bogus claims of being so safe and having practically no crime!

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Appeals on December 25, 2006, 05:18:10 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
I just trotted over to BFN and posted a link to the M&C Thread for them to see as well.  I have posted it there before but since I seldom post, they prolly just forgot about it.

Hey, Aruba, it's called Freedom of the Press and Free Speech, get over it!  See what your failure to investigate has produced?  You are now under scrutiny to see if this is what happens with all crime there or if Natalee was singled out for this horrendous treatment by those whose job it is to bring justice.

.


Great idea, Anna.  I have All the King's Men (new DVD) awaiting me so I'll be leaving for now.  

Angie, by all means keep an eye on that 17 year old :wink:  :wink:

Love to all, and to all a good night.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LilPuma on December 25, 2006, 05:45:04 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Appeals"
ANNA, did you see the latest AHATA Newsletter where they are bemoaning the fact that Aruba's crime is being reported instantly on the internet?  Who do you think they are referring to?   :wink:


Hummm, wonder if they are gonna do anything about the crimes?


Don't be silly.  They don't care about the crime, it's the reporting of it they are against.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 25, 2006, 05:50:13 PM
Evening monkeys.  Hope everyone had a great Christmas and ate lots of food.  We can all go on monkey diets next year.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 25, 2006, 06:03:54 PM
Quote from: "Appeals"
ANNA, did you see the latest AHATA Newsletter where they are bemoaning the fact that Aruba's crime is being reported instantly on the internet?  Who do you think they are referring to?   :wink:


Well, now, ain't that just too bad for those blood suckers.

Anna~ So right about still having your mother. We got a Christmas miracle today with my mom's progress. Mask has been off all day, she sat at edge of bed, is taking ice chips, jello and broth, and alert and talking clearlky when awake! I literally danced a little jig while leaving her room earlier!

J and I are going to a nearby convenience store for some junk food. I did not get to a store in time yesterday, and we are sorely lacking in extremely tasty stuff.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 25, 2006, 06:21:01 PM
(http://www.amigoe.com/artman/uploads/12-23-politie.jpg)

A master plan is needed for better police integrity   :?:  :lol:  

ORANJESTAD – An investigation report on the efficiency of the Police Corps of Aruba (KPA) regarding integrity, states that the control on work procedure is poorly; promotional transfers take place, while there is a disciplinary investigation going; and there is no correct follow up after irregularities within the corps are signaled.  

Forensic Services Caribbean in Curaçao did the investigation by order of Justice-minister Rudy Croes (MEP).  Amigoe learned this from documents that the paper received for perusal.   The report was already given to the then chief of police Ronny Bernadina on April 3rd of this year.  The investigation took place in 2005 and based on the findings, Forensic Services Caribbean advices to draw up a master plan to deal with the integrity risks.  Based on conversations with some key-officials within the KPA and external partners of the corps, like the Security Service, the Public Prosecutor, and the Coastguard, they have mapped nine risks.  They have also analyzed summaries of integrity rules violations within the corps.   They first noticed that many rules regarding work procedures and work processes are established, but that these are not univocal and not conveniently arranged.  The procedures differ per (police-, editor) district and are implemented or interpreted differently.”  Besides, several regulations are not complete.  Not everybody is familiar with the procedures, they are difficult of access, and several of the versions used are outdated.  Several procedures are too complex and have therefore lost their powers.  “They have become dead letters”, states the report.  

There is lack of control on the observance of the procedures in all sectors of the organization.  This has to do with not having qualitatively good employees on managerial positions.  Another reason is that there is lack of open culture, in which employees dare to talk to each other.  In order to restrict this risk, the bureau advices to further specify the career policy and to organize trainings that would provoke a culture change within the police corps.  

A third risk that can cause the integrity of the corps to come into play is the lack of confidence when it comes to exchange information.  Confidential information is leaked to third parties and nobody knows what to do with the information or that the information can be used against you.   “This lack of confidence has consequences for the internal- and external communication”, states the report.  It also forms a hindrance for working effectively and efficiently.  Their advice is again a culture chance in order to create confidence.

http://www.amigoe.com/english/


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 25, 2006, 06:33:47 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://www.amigoe.com/artman/uploads/12-23-politie.jpg)

A master plan is needed for better police integrity   :?:  :lol:  

ORANJESTAD – An investigation report on the efficiency of the Police Corps of Aruba (KPA) regarding integrity, states that the control on work procedure is poorly; promotional transfers take place, while there is a disciplinary investigation going; and there is no correct follow up after irregularities within the corps are signaled.  

Forensic Services Caribbean in Curaçao did the investigation by order of Justice-minister Rudy Croes (MEP).  Amigoe learned this from documents that the paper received for perusal.   The report was already given to the then chief of police Ronny Bernadina on April 3rd of this year.  The investigation took place in 2005 and based on the findings, Forensic Services Caribbean advices to draw up a master plan to deal with the integrity risks.  Based on conversations with some key-officials within the KPA and external partners of the corps, like the Security Service, the Public Prosecutor, and the Coastguard, they have mapped nine risks.  They have also analyzed summaries of integrity rules violations within the corps.   They first noticed that many rules regarding work procedures and work processes are established, but that these are not univocal and not conveniently arranged.  The procedures differ per (police-, editor) district and are implemented or interpreted differently.”  Besides, several regulations are not complete.  Not everybody is familiar with the procedures, they are difficult of access, and several of the versions used are outdated.  Several procedures are too complex and have therefore lost their powers.  “They have become dead letters”, states the report.  

There is lack of control on the observance of the procedures in all sectors of the organization.  This has to do with not having qualitatively good employees on managerial positions.  Another reason is that there is lack of open culture, in which employees dare to talk to each other.  In order to restrict this risk, the bureau advices to further specify the career policy and to organize trainings that would provoke a culture change within the police corps.  

A third risk that can cause the integrity of the corps to come into play is the lack of confidence when it comes to exchange information.  Confidential information is leaked to third parties and nobody knows what to do with the information or that the information can be used against you.   “This lack of confidence has consequences for the internal- and external communication”, states the report.  It also forms a hindrance for working effectively and efficiently.  Their advice is again a culture chance in order to create confidence.

http://www.amigoe.com/english/


Yeah, some like frosted flakes and some like cheerios.  They need to settle on one particular brand to avoid confusion.  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: mishy on December 25, 2006, 06:41:58 PM
Quote from: "Appeals"
ANNA, did you see the latest AHATA Newsletter where they are bemoaning the fact that Aruba's crime is being reported instantly on the internet?  Who do you think they are referring to?   :wink:


That is too cool, Appeals!!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

BTW, I just checked the panda cam and it's offline right now  :cry:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 25, 2006, 06:48:42 PM
That is a damning report on the police department in Aruba.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: mishy on December 25, 2006, 06:48:43 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
LOL yep Carnut.. Lotsa Santas and no Ang.. I was taking the photo of my baby nephew. lol

Appeals.. was suppose to go to my brothers. (which I seen him and his wife and the baby last night.. and am glad for that)
 My son isnt feeling well today.. he was put on some meds recently.. and I have to watch him. I wont leave him here alone for he gets himself into mischief.  Hes 17..  Pfffffffffftttttttt. Not feeling well.. and he made a big mistake of saying to me.. You guys can still go.. I will stay here myself.
 LOL  Ummm Nope.. dont think so... !


Aw, sorry Angie, about your plans...Hope son starts feeling better really soon...Did you see those pix that CBB put up? Aren't those turkeys kewl??

The weather is cold, rainy, and dreary here, so we haven't left the house. We haven't even gotten out of our pajamas all day and have just had our dinner. It's the latest we've ever had Christmas dinner. I think we are going to do it like this from now on, as it was far less stressful and rushed. Had our naps BEFORE getting dinner ready, even  :lol: We've been having a really good time!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 25, 2006, 07:06:43 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Evening monkeys.  Hope everyone had a great Christmas and ate lots of food.  We can all go on monkey diets next year.


I like that idea!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 07:07:52 PM
Well, we had a nice day and had blupper with the children.  It was nice to see them all but the baby had an earache and was banging on the piano, one got a trumpet and the other a drum set.  I am sure the baby's earache was worse than mine, but I have been through all that with their fathers, and now it is time for payback.  I left early.  LOL.  The parents can't leave..... their wives asked me how did I do it through the years?  Gee.  They each have one each and I had three beaters-and-blowers at once.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 25, 2006, 07:08:52 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://www.amigoe.com/artman/uploads/12-23-politie.jpg)

A master plan is needed for better police integrity   :?:  :lol:  

ORANJESTAD – An investigation report on the efficiency of the Police Corps of Aruba (KPA) regarding integrity, states that the control on work procedure is poorly; promotional transfers take place, while there is a disciplinary investigation going; and there is no correct follow up after irregularities within the corps are signaled.  

Forensic Services Caribbean in Curaçao did the investigation by order of Justice-minister Rudy Croes (MEP).  Amigoe learned this from documents that the paper received for perusal.   The report was already given to the then chief of police Ronny Bernadina on April 3rd of this year.  The investigation took place in 2005 and based on the findings, Forensic Services Caribbean advices to draw up a master plan to deal with the integrity risks.  Based on conversations with some key-officials within the KPA and external partners of the corps, like the Security Service, the Public Prosecutor, and the Coastguard, they have mapped nine risks.  They have also analyzed summaries of integrity rules violations within the corps.   They first noticed that many rules regarding work procedures and work processes are established, but that these are not univocal and not conveniently arranged.  The procedures differ per (police-, editor) district and are implemented or interpreted differently.”  Besides, several regulations are not complete.  Not everybody is familiar with the procedures, they are difficult of access, and several of the versions used are outdated.  Several procedures are too complex and have therefore lost their powers.  “They have become dead letters”, states the report.  

There is lack of control on the observance of the procedures in all sectors of the organization.  This has to do with not having qualitatively good employees on managerial positions.  Another reason is that there is lack of open culture, in which employees dare to talk to each other.  In order to restrict this risk, the bureau advices to further specify the career policy and to organize trainings that would provoke a culture change within the police corps.  

A third risk that can cause the integrity of the corps to come into play is the lack of confidence when it comes to exchange information.  Confidential information is leaked to third parties and nobody knows what to do with the information or that the information can be used against you.   “This lack of confidence has consequences for the internal- and external communication”, states the report.  It also forms a hindrance for working effectively and efficiently.  Their advice is again a culture chance in order to create confidence.

http://www.amigoe.com/english/


Yeah, some like frosted flakes and some like cheerios.  They need to settle on one particular brand to avoid confusion.  :roll:


Bet they wouldn't get far with a report like that if van der Stratten was still around.  :evil:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 25, 2006, 07:12:34 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Well, we had a nice day and had blupper with the children.  It was nice to see them all but the baby had an earache and was banging on the piano, one got a trumpet and the other a drum set.  I am sure the baby's earache was worse than mine, but I have been through all that with their fathers, and now it is time for payback.  I left early.  LOL.  The parents can't leave..... their wives asked me how did I do it through the years?  Gee.  They each have one each and I had three beaters-and-blowers at once.


You had an entire band, Tyler!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 25, 2006, 07:13:35 PM
I hope that Natalee's family and friends were able to obtain a semblance of inner peace today.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: mishy on December 25, 2006, 07:14:17 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Well, we had a nice day and had blupper with the children.  It was nice to see them all but the baby had an earache and was banging on the piano, one got a trumpet and the other a drum set.  I am sure the baby's earache was worse than mine, but I have been through all that with their fathers, and now it is time for payback.  I left early.  LOL.  The parents can't leave..... their wives asked me how did I do it through the years?  Gee.  They each have one each and I had three beaters-and-blowers at once.


You deserve a medal, Tyler  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :wink: I think God gave me one child for a reason  8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 25, 2006, 07:14:49 PM
Interesting Christmas poll I found, with one interesting response.......have a look.

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As you know, Christmas is one of my favorite holidays. As you also know, this one will probably be kind of a downer, for a variety of reasons you’re probably already familiar with. What should I do for Christmas to avoid having to sit through the family meltdown that will inevitably occur?

Response:subversivegrrl -- Hop a flight to Aruba. Or perhaps (the lo-cost version), surround yourself with tiki decor, take hallucinogens, and *pretend* you're in Aruba.

http://tinyurl.com/y5z4cs


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Sam on December 25, 2006, 07:14:58 PM
Hi Monkeys,
 I hope all had a great Christmas. I have not read back to see what was going on. Just read page 12. Last night when I signed off we had 4 more pages to go on the previous thread. Looks like our posters can't stay away.

So sad it has taken Aruba all this time to find out there police force is incompetant oh oops meant in efficient. LOL We have been telling them for a year and a half now.

Angie you were so right to stay home with the 17 year old. I remember those days well. LOL

Justinsmama, I am so glad to hear your Mom is doing so much better. Try to explain to her that she is going to be weak and it will take awhile to regain her strength.

Lil Puma, I loved the comment about it is not the crime that concerns them but the reporting of it.

Oh there are so many more comments I could make but will wait until the next post.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: mishy on December 25, 2006, 07:17:15 PM
Quote from: "justinsmama"
I hope that Natalee's family and friends were able to obtain a semblance of inner peace today.


Same here Justins. It's been my fervent prayer now for 18 months and here they are on their second Christmas with out her...God bless Natalee and her family!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Sam on December 25, 2006, 07:26:19 PM
Hi Bleached, Lots of dumb comments at that link you posted. They must be awfully young. LOL

Gonna read back and see what I have missed.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 25, 2006, 07:27:05 PM
Quote from: "mishy"
Quote from: "justinsmama"
I hope that Natalee's family and friends were able to obtain a semblance of inner peace today.


Same here Justins. It's been my fervent prayer now for 18 months and here they are on their second Christmas with out her...God bless Natalee and her family!!


What is really sad is that all their Christmases will be without Natalee from now on.  This family needs justice and they need it now.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 25, 2006, 07:28:59 PM
Remember this article from last December? It is no wonder there is a problem policing itself.  

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

From Amigoe, December 8, 2005

Police discovered cocaine balls factory in Seroe Blanco

    ARUBA – The police discovered a cocaine balls factory by accident. This happened during an incursion in an apartment in Seroe Blanco. The police arrested several people and confiscated professional equipment and four kilo cocaine. Apparently, the two escaped prisoners were hiding in this apartment.

    The fugitives were not in the apartment when the police dropped in. While the search is continuing, Justice-minister Rudy Croes (MEP), KIA-governor Freddy Maduro and manager Ronny Paskel of Cuerpo Especial Aruba had a meeting last Tuesday to discuss the escape. After the meeting, Croes indicated that heads will roll when it becomes clear who is responsible for the escape. Adi Thijsen, party chairman of the MEP and lawyer praised the KIA-personnel. He indicated that probably, absence through illness (60 percent) and lack of personnel played a big part in the escape. It is not easy for the KIA-personnel. Mentally, they have to be strong and they are under a lot of pressure due to the absence through illness. Logically, things go wrong sometimes. He says that the government has to take measures to avoid such escapes. The government has a personnel freeze and this is not good for the KIA. More people should be hired here in order to protect the community. The KIA-personnel should work less overtime and rest more. This way they can enjoy their work which will be to the advantage of the society.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: IBE on December 25, 2006, 07:37:58 PM
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Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: IBE on December 25, 2006, 07:40:44 PM
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Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 25, 2006, 07:41:45 PM
Quote from: "mishy"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Well, we had a nice day and had blupper with the children.  It was nice to see them all but the baby had an earache and was banging on the piano, one got a trumpet and the other a drum set.  I am sure the baby's earache was worse than mine, but I have been through all that with their fathers, and now it is time for payback.  I left early.  LOL.  The parents can't leave..... their wives asked me how did I do it through the years?  Gee.  They each have one each and I had three beaters-and-blowers at once.


You deserve a medal, Tyler  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :wink: I think God gave me one child for a reason  8)


Dittos on that, Mishy!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 25, 2006, 07:42:51 PM
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Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Sam on December 25, 2006, 07:42:54 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
Sounds great, None!  Think I will brew up a little of the fancy coffees son and DL sent to me.  Skip nap that way and get all hyper on the pie and caffeine, I might actually make a movement toward putting some of these things away, lol!  

I am totally lazy today!  Just wanna lie around and watch goofy stuff on TV.   :D

Saw a recipe for chocolate pecan pie recently.  That sounds interesting, too.

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Anna, My DH makes a chocolate pecan pie since I am a chocoholic. He melts 2 squares of Bakers unsweetened chocolate in a double boiler and then adds it to the standard pecan pie recipe. Yummmmmmy!

When they say food is the way to a man's heart, Chocolate is to a womans. JMHO


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Buckeye on December 25, 2006, 07:43:59 PM
Merry Christmas Monkeys

Tyler

Just finished Honey Baked Ham smoked turkey.  It was great.  Thanks for the tip.

Just a drive-by...lots of family in.  Prayers to those with family/friends with problems.  Glad to see some postings of improved situations.  Thinking of all...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Sam on December 25, 2006, 07:48:10 PM
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Quote from: "mishy"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Well, we had a nice day and had blupper with the children.  It was nice to see them all but the baby had an earache and was banging on the piano, one got a trumpet and the other a drum set.  I am sure the baby's earache was worse than mine, but I have been through all that with their fathers, and now it is time for payback.  I left early.  LOL.  The parents can't leave..... their wives asked me how did I do it through the years?  Gee.  They each have one each and I had three beaters-and-blowers at once.


You deserve a medal, Tyler  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :wink: I think God gave me one child for a reason  8)


Dittos on that, Mishy!


I used to tell my kids , One child was not quite enough but two was two to many. LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: IBE on December 25, 2006, 07:48:30 PM
Testing

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o316/wallawalla60/Wally/atthezooredone.jpg)

My adopted=by=love granddaughter when she was 4 on a Christian school's pre-school field trip to the zoo. Is now 6.  Will show all my family for Christmas if I can get the hang of this

IBE


Title: Justinsmom
Post by: IBE on December 25, 2006, 07:55:00 PM
Justinsmom  Thanks

Is it snowing where you live? I miss home alot.

How is your mom.... I am about 16 pages behind. Does she know there are Monkeys == lovely people== all around the world esp. in the US pulling for here?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 08:03:50 PM
IBE  - what a cutie pie little girl!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 25, 2006, 08:18:32 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
IBE  - what a cutie pie little girl!


Daughter is watching her latest Pirates of the Caribbean movie with Johnny Depp.  Come on over! I'll pop popcorn for us.


Title: Re: Justinsmom
Post by: justinsmama on December 25, 2006, 08:22:05 PM
Quote from: "IBE"
Justinsmom  Thanks

Is it snowing where you live? I miss home alot.

How is your mom.... I am about 16 pages behind. Does she know there are Monkeys == lovely people== all around the world esp. in the US pulling for here?


Rain but no snow, IBE. It will come, far more than we Hoosiers will want. Mom is greatly improved. Sat up with legs over edge of bed (with help), mask off all day, coughing well, and able to have some small amounts of liquids and jello. That's my Christmas gift, and it's the best one I've ever had.   Monkeys have been wonderfully supportive! I told her that even a bunch of monkeys were pulling for her! Told her they were online buddies.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 08:24:32 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
IBE  - what a cutie pie little girl!


Daughter is watching her latest Pirates of the Caribbean movie with Johnny Depp.  Come on over! I'll pop popcorn for us.


Oh Lala's - if only I could!

Give Johnny a big smoochie for me, okay?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 25, 2006, 08:24:46 PM
Justins
I am so happy to hear the good news.  Prayers for a speedy recovery from all the monkeys are helping I am sure.  Sometimes are the ones we least expect.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 25, 2006, 08:24:50 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
IBE  - what a cutie pie little girl!


Daughter is watching her latest Pirates of the Caribbean movie with Johnny Depp.  Come on over! I'll pop popcorn for us.


Santa brought that for Justin, too!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 08:26:52 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
IBE  - what a cutie pie little girl!


Daughter is watching her latest Pirates of the Caribbean movie with Johnny Depp.  Come on over! I'll pop popcorn for us.


Almost hate to admit it, but I got both Pirates 1 and Pirates 2 for Christmas.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 25, 2006, 08:29:20 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
IBE  - what a cutie pie little girl!


Daughter is watching her latest Pirates of the Caribbean movie with Johnny Depp.  Come on over! I'll pop popcorn for us.


Almost hate to admit it, but I got both Pirates 1 and Pirates 2 for Christmas.


I bet you did hate to admit that. LOL  I love both of them.  It's okay, don't worry we won't tell anyone. :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 08:31:39 PM
Monkeys,

When I took the new lappy to mom and dad's today and was talking on SM while there, my parents finally realized I have an internet addiction. Hubby knew, but parents had no idea.  :P

If I disappear suddenly, it will be because they had me kidnapped and sent to rehab for my own good.  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 25, 2006, 08:33:42 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
IBE  - what a cutie pie little girl!


Daughter is watching her latest Pirates of the Caribbean movie with Johnny Depp.  Come on over! I'll pop popcorn for us.


Almost hate to admit it, but I got both Pirates 1 and Pirates 2 for Christmas.


I bet you did hate to admit that. LOL  I love both of them.  It's okay, don't worry we won't tell anyone. :wink:


Speak for yourself, Lala's! I'm taking out ads in every media forum there is!  :twisted:   :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 25, 2006, 08:34:34 PM
Nooooooo, BT! You must not be deprogrammed!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 08:46:18 PM
Dad drat it, SIL left brussels sprouts with the snack tray.

Who in their right mind would think I would eat brussels sprouts.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 25, 2006, 08:48:18 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Dad drat it, SIL left brussels sprouts with the snack tray.

Who in their right mind would think I would eat brussels sprouts.


Collard balls!  I love those things.  You knew we couldn't continue to agree on everything.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 25, 2006, 08:51:19 PM
BT
Repeat after me...."there is no cure for monkey addictions"...I repeat "there is no cure for monkey addictions"...what in the world was your family thinking anyway? :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 08:57:44 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
BT
Repeat after me...."there is no cure for monkey addictions"...I repeat "there is no cure for monkey addictions"...what in the world was your family thinking anyway? :roll:


I know, Lala's!!! Those people must be crazy!  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Sam on December 25, 2006, 08:58:48 PM
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Nooooooo, BT! You must not be deprogrammed!


I agree. No deprogramming for BT. I bet your hubby is glad his gift made such a hit with you.

Hey Tylergal, I think the sharper image air filters are a great gift for your allergies. I asked for and received another Oreck air purifier. That really is what I wanted. Of course I am at the time of life that I do not need or want much. I told dear DIL " If I can't eat it or wear it or use it up in someway I do not want it. Please do not give me anything I have to dust. I have way to much of that already.

Carnut, I love the pirates of the carribean. Watching 1 now.  Also the post I made to you in the lounge was just a story in an email I received. It already had the old mans name as George. I do seem to remember Louise called you that on one of the political forums.
Brussel sprouts are good for you as well as tasting good.JMHO How long has it been since you tasted them? Our taste buds do change.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Sam on December 25, 2006, 09:02:26 PM
I forgot to mention
CBB and Elaine both of your rings are beautiful.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 09:03:25 PM
Quote from: "Sam"
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Nooooooo, BT! You must not be deprogrammed!


I agree. No deprogramming for BT. I bet your hubby is glad his gift made such a hit with you.

Hey Tylergal, I think the sharper image air filters are a great gift for your allergies. I asked for and received another Oreck air purifier. That really is what I wanted. Of course I am at the time of life that I do not need or want much. I told dear DIL " If I can't eat it or wear it or use it up in someway I do not want it. Please do not give me anything I have to dust. I have way to much of that already.

Carnut, I love the pirates of the carribean. Watching 1 now.  Also the post I made to you in the lounge was just a story in an email I received. It already had the old mans name as George. I do seem to remember Louise called you that on one of the political forums.
Brussel sprouts are good for you as well as tasting good.JMHO How long has it been since you tasted them? Our taste buds do change.


Well, you'd be surprised how much like that George I really am in 'real' life.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 09:04:39 PM
Sam - I have to agree with Carnut on this one - no collard balls!!!!

Those things taste downright nasty to me. Of course, I can't do cooked broccoli either, so I guess my body rejects healthy food. :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 09:05:32 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Sam - I have to agree with Carnut on this one - no collard balls!!!!

Those things taste downright nasty to me. Of course, I can't do cooked broccoli either, so I guess my body rejects healthy food. :lol:


Yeah, even the carrots and celery get boring real quick.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 09:11:23 PM
Oh, Sam, that is one good thing about air filters.  I do not have to dust it, do I?   :shock:

One is not required to dust a diamond bracelet either, and if you guys recall, I gave my DILs my two diamond and sapphire bracelets and another one the sapphire and diamond ring so my wrists and fingers need some more sparkle that does not require dusting.  I was hoping to cash in after being so generous, but an air filter?????  I will have to do what Elaine did, look out for myself and shop on E-Bay.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 09:12:25 PM
Or better yet, does CrazybabyBorg's gentleman friend have a friend who wants to adopt a wanting and wanton grandmother type? :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 09:13:31 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Oh, Sam, that is one good thing about air filters.  I do not have to dust it, do I?   :shock:

One is not required to dust a diamond bracelet either, and if you guys recall, I gave my DILs my two diamond and sapphire bracelets and another one the sapphire and diamond ring so my wrists and fingers need some more sparkle that does not require dusting.  I was hoping to cash in after being so generous, but an air filter?????  I will have to do what Elaine did, look out for myself and shop on E-Bay.


What's wrong with kicking some male butt until he gets the message?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 09:15:51 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Oh, Sam, that is one good thing about air filters.  I do not have to dust it, do I?   :shock:

One is not required to dust a diamond bracelet either, and if you guys recall, I gave my DILs my two diamond and sapphire bracelets and another one the sapphire and diamond ring so my wrists and fingers need some more sparkle that does not require dusting.  I was hoping to cash in after being so generous, but an air filter?????  I will have to do what Elaine did, look out for myself and shop on E-Bay.


What's wrong with kicking some male butt until he gets the message?


He told me that I said if he would upgrade the house and redo all the bathrooms and kitchen, that could be my Christmas gift.  He knew I did not mean that.  He knows me that well, that I only keep promises until the deed is done.  Then all bets off. :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 09:17:20 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Oh, Sam, that is one good thing about air filters.  I do not have to dust it, do I?   :shock:

One is not required to dust a diamond bracelet either, and if you guys recall, I gave my DILs my two diamond and sapphire bracelets and another one the sapphire and diamond ring so my wrists and fingers need some more sparkle that does not require dusting.  I was hoping to cash in after being so generous, but an air filter?????  I will have to do what Elaine did, look out for myself and shop on E-Bay.


What's wrong with kicking some male butt until he gets the message?


He told me that I said if he would upgrade the house and redo all the bathrooms and kitchen, that could be my Christmas gift.  He knew I did not mean that.  He knows me that well, that I only keep promises until the deed is done.  Then all bets off. :lol:


Oh!!! The Female perogative.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Sam on December 25, 2006, 09:20:57 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Sam - I have to agree with Carnut on this one - no collard balls!!!!

Those things taste downright nasty to me. Of course, I can't do cooked broccoli either, so I guess my body rejects healthy food. :lol:


Yeah, even the carrots and celery get boring real quick.


There are so few foods that I can say I dislike. I love the healthy foods, the unhealthy foods. Almost everything. Last year while on the radiation and chemo(ended Dec. 21, 2005) and clear until April this year there were very few foods I could eat without gagging and or vomiting.. I was hungry too. Could eat all cheeses, fruits and of course chocolate and Ensure. Ensure was like a lifesaver to me. Was I glad when food started tasting right again.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LilPuma on December 25, 2006, 09:22:42 PM
Okay, now I'm confused about botters and blupper, but Pirates is on ABC as I type this.   :?

Glad to hear your mom's doing better, Justins.  I hope we hear from Mrs. Red soon.  Peaches goes in Wednesday - we need to start praying for an easier time for her as well as effectiveness of the treatment.  If we send good feelings, healing feelings while praying for same, I bet it will help.  Yep.  I'm pretty sure.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 09:24:40 PM
Quote from: "Sam"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Sam - I have to agree with Carnut on this one - no collard balls!!!!

Those things taste downright nasty to me. Of course, I can't do cooked broccoli either, so I guess my body rejects healthy food. :lol:


Yeah, even the carrots and celery get boring real quick.


There are so few foods that I can say I dislike. I love the healthy foods, the unhealthy foods. Almost everything. Last year while on the radiation and chemo(ended Dec. 21, 2005) and clear until April this year there were very few foods I could eat without gagging and or vomiting.. I was hungry too. Could eat all cheeses, fruits and of course chocolate and Ensure. Ensure was like a lifesaver to me. Was I glad when food started tasting right again.


I'm very glad for you too, Sam!

I read once that there are two main types of taste buds. One kind makes brussels sprouts, grapefruit, broccoli, etc. taste bitter. I must have that kind, because all those things have a horribly bitter taste to me. I would like to be able to eat them, but I don't see it ever happening!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 09:28:46 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Sam"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Sam - I have to agree with Carnut on this one - no collard balls!!!!

Those things taste downright nasty to me. Of course, I can't do cooked broccoli either, so I guess my body rejects healthy food. :lol:


Yeah, even the carrots and celery get boring real quick.


There are so few foods that I can say I dislike. I love the healthy foods, the unhealthy foods. Almost everything. Last year while on the radiation and chemo(ended Dec. 21, 2005) and clear until April this year there were very few foods I could eat without gagging and or vomiting.. I was hungry too. Could eat all cheeses, fruits and of course chocolate and Ensure. Ensure was like a lifesaver to me. Was I glad when food started tasting right again.


I'm very glad for you too, Sam!

I read once that there are two main types of taste buds. One kind makes brussels sprouts, grapefruit, broccoli, etc. taste bitter. I must have that kind, because all those things have a horribly bitter taste to me. I would like to be able to eat them, but I don't see it ever happening!


Same here, only I wouldn't have any desire to eat them anyway.

Watched my mother spend most of her life eating cottage cheese and grapefruits and just never could understand how she could do it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LouiseVargas on December 25, 2006, 09:29:35 PM
Hello to everyone who's been on line today.

I'm so happy about the gifts you all received:  

BT - I'm happy you got your lappy and book
Klaas - I'm happy you got your hard drive and all that other loot
Mishy - You got a digital camera and printer and accessories
Carnut - Great idea to give the Scared Monkeys cookbook as a gift
Carnut - I'm happy you got two apple pies with non sugar sweetener
Anna - You got four 90 phone cards for cell phone, coffees and expressio maker, money gift certificate for dog supplies, and small items like gloves, socks and pretty silk scarf
Angie - You got mainly $$ and a few real cute things from Amanda and Jason. (she got me a really cute Boyds Bear lamp)
Carnut - Almost hate to admit it, but I got both Pirates 1 and Pirates 2 for Christmas.

And most important of all ...

Many of You Were Granted with Another Christmas with Your Mother(s)

Woo Hoo. This is part of Christmas. I just love it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Cat on December 25, 2006, 09:30:28 PM
I hope you all get and feel better soon.I enjoyed the turkey,cbb,since you told where to look.Chemo,radiation,and cancer suck,kinda like aruba.I really do wish you all well.take care,soon justice shall prevail.cat


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Sam on December 25, 2006, 09:31:49 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Oh, Sam, that is one good thing about air filters.  I do not have to dust it, do I?   :shock:

One is not required to dust a diamond bracelet either, and if you guys recall, I gave my DILs my two diamond and sapphire bracelets and another one the sapphire and diamond ring so my wrists and fingers need some more sparkle that does not require dusting.  I was hoping to cash in after being so generous, but an air filter?????  I will have to do what Elaine did, look out for myself and shop on E-Bay.


What's wrong with kicking some male butt until he gets the message?


He told me that I said if he would upgrade the house and redo all the bathrooms and kitchen, that could be my Christmas gift.  He knew I did not mean that.  He knows me that well, that I only keep promises until the deed is done.  Then all bets off. :lol:


You sound so much like me Tyler. Or at least the younger me. LOL
By the way, Ebay is a good thing. They also have some great vintage and Estate jewelry. It can be quite pricey though. Elaine just got a steal I think because of it being Christmas and buyers not bidding on jewelry right then.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 09:32:24 PM
Thank you, Louise. I also feel blessed for being able to know and spend Christmas with wonderful monkeys like yourself!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Cat on December 25, 2006, 09:34:35 PM
I am curious,since I haven't kept up.JQK has 100 john does on his complaint,it will be interesting to see all the names.They will be showing court tv here,channel 30,so I shall watch.I think the k2s will stay and fight,to save their own miserable lives.Support St.Judes,for children.Cat


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 09:34:46 PM
Quote from: "Sam"
You sound so much like me Tyler. Or at least the younger me. LOL
By the way, Ebay is a good thing. They also have some great vintage and Estate jewelry. It can be quite pricey though. Elaine just got a steal I think because of it being Christmas and buyers not bidding on jewelry right then.


You can also get good deals on jewelry on Ebay if you misspell the names of the stones, etc. when you do a search. For instance, people looking for a ruby will generally spell it that way. If someone made a typo in their listing and spelled it rubby, then no one finds it when they search so the price stays low.  :D


Title: Merry Christmas from me to you!
Post by: IBE on December 25, 2006, 09:36:51 PM
Tylargal take up DH on the upgrade of the home bit or if not, may I borrow him for a week? Won't take long in a trailer.. maybe less that a week. I'm good a tools, but overwhelmed!!
Merry Christmas from me to you
I'm going to blow the margins It's the dog and cat picture. Tried to get it smaller, but then you can't see them, Oh, well, please forgive. I'm tired. OK, here goes; been working on this for hours.

I have an adopted=by=love family and one real cousin back in Indiana...plus some neat neighbors in a mobile home part where I live. When I used to work 18 hrs a day, I didn't get to know my neighbors well, plus I wasn't rich and the same religion as them... that made a difference too. Well I don't have the home anymore.
   Here we have retired Hughs and govt. engineers, teachers, active nurses, aritists, gardeners, ( have 2 current tomato plants with tomatoes) homebound, chronic ill but out, unemployed, some really striving families as the place is divided into low income (less that 34000) lower income, moderate and then regualer. If your site qualified under the low/lower it has to be sold that way when you sell...kind of hard to find someone with cash, good credit and "low/lower income" (Older mobile homes can't be refinanced... a good op. for someone who wants to find a new business and help each other)

As a homeowers Assoc. we own our own land which is different from most moble home parks. The city is putting in 4M$ grant and us 1M$ (from wise CD investment interest for years) for underground utilities.. I don't trust the city and think in about 7 yrs well be ripe for them to call us "blighted" (nothing in this city is blighted) but they use that excuse and use ED and take over.

Then all you Monkeys can tell me where to move where I'd least be warm. I want to see out the windows, see birds, grass, flowers, clouds, trees and not freeze my buns off too much, but at my age I would be staying inside, I guess.

OK... HERE THEY ARE... my family. The children are children of my former caregiver for mom and me. He became a son to mom and brother to me.. he cusses to me in Spanish; (he speaks excellent English) I cuss to him in English. Mine is worse than his.  We need to learn Southern cussin'. Then we'd be tri-lingual?

He's been in the US for over 20 yrs., pays taxes, social security, his own med. bills, et al, goes to chruch and has his own moving business. I told him it should be "Mario and Daughters" but a week and 1/2  ago Mario, Jr. was born. I have no pictures of him as I have had a cold and won't go near. (c=section, boy,  8 1/2 lbs 22 inches) don't know, is that data normal?

The girl in the Picture at the LA Zoo (Christian pre=school field trip) is now 6; makes me two years older too. Our noses looked alike then... mine getting wider from age, her's now getting narrower from age in the last 2 yrs. She is now 3/4 as tall as I am and I'm 5'7. Her English is extremely good; incl. grammar. Her Kindgergarten was teaching what I taught in the 2 nd. grade years ago and this is in one of the poorer schlool districts south of LA.

The 6 yr old and me at the zoo 2 yrs ago.
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o316/wallawalla60/Wally/atthezooredone.jpg)

Now this little one is named after my late mother using the real American spelling of the name. She is now 4. This is IBE, my mom's nickname; She really acts, looks like my late mom. If she ends up a pilot or goes into space or another great teacher, I'll know it's mom!
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o316/wallawalla60/Wally/IBEatthezoo2redone.jpg)

Of course I think they are all gifted!!!! Know this is really OT, but thought I'd slide this in while Klaas is gone, but have to watch out for the hall monitor and all her pencils.  :lol:

I love you all. I am blessed to have discovered you Scared Monkeys and had, in a small way, helped bring Justice for Natalee.

Merry Christmas, and Happy Holidays  IBE

PS been switching the channels... the one with BYU  #354 (Direct TV) has great dances and music from all around the world. Very festive.

Here goes: hope I don't break out the margins:
These are my real children who snuggle, purr, keep me loved and warm.
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o316/wallawalla60/Wally/mychildrencopy.jpg)

 Thank you for looking. Merry Christmas and Happy Holdiays

IBE


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 09:37:34 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Sam"
You sound so much like me Tyler. Or at least the younger me. LOL
By the way, Ebay is a good thing. They also have some great vintage and Estate jewelry. It can be quite pricey though. Elaine just got a steal I think because of it being Christmas and buyers not bidding on jewelry right then.


You can also get good deals on jewelry on Ebay if you misspell the names of the stones, etc. when you do a search. For instance, people looking for a ruby will generally spell it that way. If someone made a typo in their listing and spelled it rubby, then no one finds it when they search so the price stays low.  :D


Unoh, and you do realize you would be taking advantage of someone because of their spelling error, don't you?

But then they can call off the auction anytime they want to so if they are still willing to sell at whatever the bid goes for I guess it might not be considered taking advantage.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Sam on December 25, 2006, 09:39:56 PM
Quote from: "LilPuma"
Okay, now I'm confused about botters and blupper, but Pirates is on ABC as I type this.   :?

Glad to hear your mom's doing better, Justins.  I hope we hear from Mrs. Red soon.  Peaches goes in Wednesday - we need to start praying for an easier time for her as well as effectiveness of the treatment.  If we send good feelings, healing feelings while praying for same, I bet it will help.  Yep.  I'm pretty sure.


Yes lets all send good thoughts as well as our prayers for Peaches. We are the Monkeys and seem to be used to doing alot of praying for others.


Title: Sorry
Post by: IBE on December 25, 2006, 09:41:18 PM
Sorry, I got soooo excited I hit the submit button twice, or well, instant replay!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 09:44:00 PM
IBE you are a nice looking lady in the zoo pic.

Looks like I am going to be OD'ing on Cary Grant all night, TCM is doing an all nighter with Cary.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 09:45:36 PM
IBE - thank you so much for sharing those beautiful pictures.

What a wonderful "adopted" family!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 09:46:34 PM
Quote from: "LilPuma"
Okay, now I'm confused about botters and blupper, but Pirates is on ABC as I type this.   :?

Glad to hear your mom's doing better, Justins.  I hope we hear from Mrs. Red soon.  Peaches goes in Wednesday - we need to start praying for an easier time for her as well as effectiveness of the treatment.  If we send good feelings, healing feelings while praying for same, I bet it will help.  Yep.  I'm pretty sure.


I was just thinking of Peaches and came here to ask if anyone had heard from her.  I knew she was going in sometime soon but not sure when.  Thank you, Li'l Puma for this information.  I will certainly remember her.  She is such a blessing to this forum.  Such a great person.

L'il Puma, blupper is one big meal (breakfast, lunch and supper) which is about all we eat on Christmas Day, because starting with fruits, nut breads, cakes, etc, for brekkie, we eat most of the day.  We just named it "blupper" for short.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 25, 2006, 09:46:49 PM
Quote from: "Cat"
I hope you all get and feel better soon.I enjoyed the turkey,cbb,since you told where to look.Chemo,radiation,and cancer suck,kinda like aruba.I really do wish you all well.take care,soon justice shall prevail.cat


Yeah, except one can get over cancer, chemo and radiation.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LilPuma on December 25, 2006, 09:48:10 PM
Quote from: "Cat"
I am curious,since I haven't kept up.JQK has 100 john does on his complaint,it will be interesting to see all the names.They will be showing court tv here,channel 30,so I shall watch.I think the k2s will stay and fight,to save their own miserable lives.Support St.Judes,for children.Cat


JQK doesn't have the 100 John Does, Cat.  The Kalpoes attorneys put that on their lawsuit, to add names as they deem appropriate.


Title: Klaas
Post by: IBE on December 25, 2006, 09:48:37 PM
Ugh.. when you get back is it possible to delete my 2nd post of "my family" and the ref. one to it?  You must have regrouped my dog and cat. When I first looked at the page, it blew the margin, Now it doesn't. Thanks, Merry Christmas
'
IBE


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 09:49:16 PM
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Quote from: "Cat"
I hope you all get and feel better soon.I enjoyed the turkey,cbb,since you told where to look.Chemo,radiation,and cancer suck,kinda like aruba.I really do wish you all well.take care,soon justice shall prevail.cat


Yeah, except one can get over cancer, chemo and radiation.


Justins you are beginning to the short quips like me.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: mishy on December 25, 2006, 09:50:42 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Sam"
You sound so much like me Tyler. Or at least the younger me. LOL
By the way, Ebay is a good thing. They also have some great vintage and Estate jewelry. It can be quite pricey though. Elaine just got a steal I think because of it being Christmas and buyers not bidding on jewelry right then.


You can also get good deals on jewelry on Ebay if you misspell the names of the stones, etc. when you do a search. For instance, people looking for a ruby will generally spell it that way. If someone made a typo in their listing and spelled it rubby, then no one finds it when they search so the price stays low.  :D


hmmm, BT, I oughta try that sometime...What's a good misspelling for "Hidalgo?" I've been combing ebay for 30 minutes for a cool ring. And like Sam, I've seen some awesome and unique vintage jewelry on ebay. It's been so long since I've been able to buy myself a piece of antique jewelry. I can get on ebay for and salivate for hours  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 25, 2006, 09:54:00 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Quote from: "Cat"
I hope you all get and feel better soon.I enjoyed the turkey,cbb,since you told where to look.Chemo,radiation,and cancer suck,kinda like aruba.I really do wish you all well.take care,soon justice shall prevail.cat


Yeah, except one can get over cancer, chemo and radiation.


Justins you are beginning to the short quips like me.

See what hanging out together all this time does?

Wasn't Peaches going to have some dental work done?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Sam on December 25, 2006, 09:55:26 PM
IBE, your pictures are lovely. Your adopted by love GD is so cute and you would let us believe you are old but your picture tells us a different story.

The size of the new baby sounds like a nice healthy size.


Cat, I do support ST. Judes. They are wonderful and have done so much to change the outcomes of so many of the childrens cancers.

Louise, it is nice to see you in the LCD for a change.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 25, 2006, 09:55:34 PM
IBE~ Your children from your "real" family are lovely babies! Kitty is a tuxedo cat, which Milo is also.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: mishy on December 25, 2006, 09:58:27 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "LilPuma"
Okay, now I'm confused about botters and blupper, but Pirates is on ABC as I type this.   :?

Glad to hear your mom's doing better, Justins.  I hope we hear from Mrs. Red soon.  Peaches goes in Wednesday - we need to start praying for an easier time for her as well as effectiveness of the treatment.  If we send good feelings, healing feelings while praying for same, I bet it will help.  Yep.  I'm pretty sure.


I was just thinking of Peaches and came here to ask if anyone had heard from her.  I knew she was going in sometime soon but not sure when.  Thank you, Li'l Puma for this information.  I will certainly remember her.  She is such a blessing to this forum.  Such a great person.

L'il Puma, blupper is one big meal (breakfast, lunch and supper) which is about all we eat on Christmas Day, because starting with fruits, nut breads, cakes, etc, for brekkie, we eat most of the day.  We just named it "blupper" for short.


Hey!! I musta missed something HUGE!! What's up with Peaches???? Someone please fill me in. She's really been on my mind the last couple of days...TIA!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 09:58:33 PM
Not that I'm bragging or anything ( (http://bestsmileys.com/hyper/7.gif) ), but my new lappy has a sticker on it saying that it's "Windows Vista Capable." That means it won't be out of date in a week. Woo Hoo!!! (http://bestsmileys.com/hyper/6.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 10:04:06 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Not that I'm bragging or anything ( (http://bestsmileys.com/hyper/7.gif) ), but my new lappy has a sticker on it saying that it's "Windows Vista Capable." That means it won't be out of date in a week. Woo Hoo!!! (http://bestsmileys.com/hyper/6.gif)


Heh, heh, have you been to Cnet news.com to see that exploits have already been found for the new Vista?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: mishy on December 25, 2006, 10:04:45 PM
Quote from: "Sam"
IBE, your pictures are lovely. Your adopted by love GD is so cute and you would let us believe you are old but your picture tells us a different story.

The size of the new baby sounds like a nice healthy size.


Cat, I do support ST. Judes. They are wonderful and have done so much to change the outcomes of so many of the childrens cancers.

Louise, it is nice to see you in the LCD for a change.


My daughter's daycare teacher, Miss Rita, has been recently diagnosed with breast cancer. I let her know that my mother and her mother both were breast cancer survivors. When I gave her her Christmas gift, my mother put a little ornament on the gift that said "Faith." She got the ornament from St. Judes. Miss Rita was really touched and actually had tears running down her face when I told her that my mother put that ornament on there for her and where it came from....Monkeys, I've put her on several prayer lists, and now I'm putting her on the monkey prayer list. Please pray for Miss Rita!!

Say, didn't lilPuma or someone suggest that we have another prayer chain after Christmas?


Title: Mishy
Post by: IBE on December 25, 2006, 10:04:50 PM
Mishy

I have to stay away from eBay as I spent too much money once. They do have a site where you can put in what you want and their computer, sellers check your wish for you and email you with a hit.

I can't remeber if it is I Want It or something like that!  I bought come great antique jewelry to wear with I have to go to American Legion Auxiliary meetings and dances (don't dance there, for the men all have wifes... with a few drinks I will do the stroll or jitterbuy with another volunteer but not close dancing)

Good luck.  IBE
Justinsmama how is your mother?

Carenut that you for the tip. Watched, for the 1 time, Christmas Story movie. Gads my dad swore like that.... Guess I inherited that part... but I hardly use it more that once every so many years. HA HA
 I grew up in Indiana and my grade school looked just like that one. So did my blackboard and writing when I first started teaching school there. Even the accents were great (there are 3 accents in Indiana) and I loved the soot scence... remember that and the swearing. Both my parents worked and a gas furnace was a big deal! to save for.

We were a Ford family; I marriend in to a Chevy farm family (now ex). Now I have a Ford motorhome and a Chevy car. Knew you'd understand this sentence   :roll:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 25, 2006, 10:06:01 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Not that I'm bragging or anything ( (http://bestsmileys.com/hyper/7.gif) ), but my new lappy has a sticker on it saying that it's "Windows Vista Capable." That means it won't be out of date in a week. Woo Hoo!!! (http://bestsmileys.com/hyper/6.gif)



Uhhuh.  :twisted:  :twisted:  :wink:  :wink:


    
Quote
Peaches



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Anna wrote:
MsMarple was having the tooth extraction and so is likely incapicitated herself with pain meds and not supposed to talk or she could check for us. Leaving Peaches who just did her chemo!

We are a mess! Sad Maybe we need a sick bay thread for all to check in including Justins about her mom and Snoopy and the ones I have missed mentioning.

.


Mo, Peaches did her oral surgery today. Chemo is the 27th. Today, i had a dentigerous cyst and a lower left wisdom tooth extracted.
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Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Sam on December 25, 2006, 10:06:42 PM
Quote from: "mishy"


hmmm, BT, I oughta try that sometime...What's a good misspelling for "Hidalgo?" I've been combing ebay for 30 minutes for a cool ring. And like Sam, I've seen some awesome and unique vintage jewelry on ebay. It's been so long since I've been able to buy myself a piece of antique jewelry. I can get on ebay for and salivate for hours  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


You got me so curious Mishy wondering what is a hidalgo in jewelry? Are you looking for a Nobleman Mishy?

I try to stay away from the vintage on Ebay. Like you I can spend hours there.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LouiseVargas on December 25, 2006, 10:07:38 PM
IBE,

Thank you for your posts and those gorgeous pics. Merry Christmas.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 10:07:51 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Not that I'm bragging or anything ( (http://bestsmileys.com/hyper/7.gif) ), but my new lappy has a sticker on it saying that it's "Windows Vista Capable." That means it won't be out of date in a week. Woo Hoo!!! (http://bestsmileys.com/hyper/6.gif)


Heh, heh, have you been to Cnet news.com to see that exploits have already been found for the new Vista?


Carnut - I don't even know what that sentence means.  :?

What is an exploit?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 25, 2006, 10:08:25 PM
Mishy~ Another prayer chain would be wonderful! Ms. Rita is already in mine.

IBE~ Mother made great strides today. Truly a Christmas miracle.


Title: Re: Mishy
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 10:08:58 PM
Quote from: "IBE"
Mishy

I have to stay away from eBay as I spent too much money once. They do have a site where you can put in what you want and their computer, sellers check your wish for you and email you with a hit.

I can't remeber if it is I Want It or something like that!  I bought come great antique jewelry to wear with I have to go to American Legion Auxiliary meetings and dances (don't dance there, for the men all have wifes... with a few drinks I will do the stroll or jitterbuy with another volunteer but not close dancing)

Good luck.  IBE
Justinsmama how is your mother?

Carenut that you for the tip. Watched, for the 1 time, Christmas Story movie. Gads my dad swore like that.... Guess I inherited that part... but I hardly use it more that once every so many years. HA HA
 I grew up in Indiana and my grade school looked just like that one. So did my blackboard and writing when I first started teaching school there. Even the accents were great (there are 3 accents in Indiana) and I loved the soot scence... remember that and the swearing. Both my parents worked and a gas furnace was a big deal! to save for.

We were a Ford family; I marriend in to a Chevy farm family (now ex). Now I have a Ford motorhome and a Chevy car. Knew you'd understand this sentence   :roll:  :lol:


Heh, heh, I am a mopar guy, but I'm actually pretty ambidextous when it comes to cars since I was trained as a mechanic on all of them back in the old days so to speak.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 10:09:25 PM
Sorry for the duplicate. It lied to me and told me the first post didn't go through.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 25, 2006, 10:10:32 PM
Quote from: "Sam"
Quote from: "mishy"


hmmm, BT, I oughta try that sometime...What's a good misspelling for "Hidalgo?" I've been combing ebay for 30 minutes for a cool ring. And like Sam, I've seen some awesome and unique vintage jewelry on ebay. It's been so long since I've been able to buy myself a piece of antique jewelry. I can get on ebay for and salivate for hours  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


You got me so curious Mishy wondering what is a hidalgo in jewelry? Are you looking for a Nobleman Mishy?

I try to stay away from the vintage on Ebay. Like you I can spend hours there.


Oh yeah! That and online shoe "window shopping" (no pun was intended but I like it). Once after Mrs. Red had posted about shoes, I spent a couple hours  :oops: just looking and dreaming!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 25, 2006, 10:12:41 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Sorry for the duplicate. It lied to me and told me the first post didn't go through.


LMAO!

Exploit is exploitation, easily manipulated to another's designs/agenda. In other words, taken, robbed, used and abused with little to no knowledge by the victim. Like the perps did to Natalee. I hate them.

BTW, where's ROBOTS?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 10:13:06 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Not that I'm bragging or anything ( (http://bestsmileys.com/hyper/7.gif) ), but my new lappy has a sticker on it saying that it's "Windows Vista Capable." That means it won't be out of date in a week. Woo Hoo!!! (http://bestsmileys.com/hyper/6.gif)


Heh, heh, have you been to Cnet news.com to see that exploits have already been found for the new Vista?


Carnut - I don't even know what that sentence means.  :?

What is an exploit?


It means hackers have found faults in the Vista operating system that can be used to get into someone else's computer and do things on it. This is called an exploit, code that hackers pass around to others for money so they can hack into as many computers as possible and then sell the use of those computers to various unsavory types for large amounts of money.

C l i c k here for article on Vista Flaws (http://news.com.com/Flaws+detected+in+Vista/2100-1002_3-6145874.html?tag=nefd.top)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 25, 2006, 10:13:47 PM
The article Klaas posted is very critical of the Aruban ALE so they KNOW and yet do nothing about it!

Also, still find the blackface in the photo offensive.  If that photo had been taken in Alabama, I can only imagine the reaction.   :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 25, 2006, 10:15:55 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
[
It means hackers have found faults in the Vista operating system that can be used to get into someone else's computer and do things on it. This is called an exploit, code that hackers pass around to others for money so they can hack into as many computers as possible and then sell the use of those computers to various unsavory types for large amounts of money.

C l i c k here for article on Vista Flaws (http://news.com.com/Flaws+detected+in+Vista/2100-1002_3-6145874.html?tag=nefd.top)



And there are always a few of those.  Takes a bit to get all the bugs worked out.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 10:16:55 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
The article Klaas posted is very critical of the Aruban ALE so they KNOW and yet do nothing about it!

Also, still find the blackface in the photo offensive.  If that photo had been taken in Alabama, I can only imagine the reaction.   :roll:


Yep, on both counts, 'no racism' on that dirty little island.

The way the article seemed to be worded to me was that it was a list of excuses why nothing was working right, not exactly an objective list of faults and how to fix them.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 10:18:16 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "Carnut"
[
It means hackers have found faults in the Vista operating system that can be used to get into someone else's computer and do things on it. This is called an exploit, code that hackers pass around to others for money so they can hack into as many computers as possible and then sell the use of those computers to various unsavory types for large amounts of money.

C l i c k here for article on Vista Flaws (http://news.com.com/Flaws+detected+in+Vista/2100-1002_3-6145874.html?tag=nefd.top)


And there are always a few of those.  Takes a bit to get all the bugs worked out.
.


Actually it's just a reflection on how poorly designed Microsoft software is and always has been, with little or no quality control.


Title: Butcher blocks
Post by: IBE on December 25, 2006, 10:18:22 PM
Re: age yepp mid'60's and some great Avon products that really work.

Thank you for the compliment... the tree shade and shadows helped, but I felt very young that day! and very tired at the end. The orangatang (sp) had had her baby and I was able to get some cute shots. All the 2 yr. wanted to do was to push her stroller, so she received a baby-doll one for her birthday.

Maybe when the kids have a break, the infant is older and it's not during tourist season we can go beck to the zoo again; they were having big construction so we missed some of the animals. My favorite West Coast zoo is San Diego but we don't have a car big enough.

Am on a roll with learning uploading picts Thanks to SM

Tomorrow,when it's light, I try to take a picture of my 2 poinsetta plants The one that might be blooming and the one I just bought to give it a hint.
plus my 2 tomato plants.

I have learned so much from you Kind Great Monkeys. Thanks all.

Carnut dip the brussel sprouts in liquor... might kick it up a notch.

PS... I read where one of the Mondeys was finishing up on here "butcher-blocks". I have a very small kitchen was looking for some to use as a counter... this remake is going to be funkly...

Anyone remember who it was?  TIA


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 25, 2006, 10:21:21 PM
IBE,
You do know that poinsettas don't exactly bloom as in form a bud then it opens, right?  It is just the top leaves that take on the red or whatever color.  So maybe if yours will turn yet.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 10:21:38 PM
Sorry IBE no go on the liquor dipping, I'm a teetotaller.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Florida on December 25, 2006, 10:23:03 PM
IBE: Thanks for the photos...."Two Cuties"

LOUISE VARGAS: Perfectly stated!

And most important of all ...
Many of You Were Granted with Another Christmas with Your Mother(s)

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Because Everyone You Meet is Fighting Some Kind Of Battle


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 10:30:00 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "Carnut"
[
It means hackers have found faults in the Vista operating system that can be used to get into someone else's computer and do things on it. This is called an exploit, code that hackers pass around to others for money so they can hack into as many computers as possible and then sell the use of those computers to various unsavory types for large amounts of money.

C l i c k here for article on Vista Flaws (http://news.com.com/Flaws+detected+in+Vista/2100-1002_3-6145874.html?tag=nefd.top)


And there are always a few of those.  Takes a bit to get all the bugs worked out.
.


Actually it's just a reflection on how poorly designed Microsoft software is and always has been, with little or no quality control.


Thanks for the explanation, Carnut.

The thing that I was mainly concerned about was the possibility that someone would come along in the near future and tell me I couldn't run stuff I wanted to run unless I had Vista as my operating system. I'm not going to voluntarily go there, but if I have to, I'm glad to know I can.  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Sam on December 25, 2006, 10:30:49 PM
Hey Carnut I need some advise here. I am back on my old puter after DH put in a new power supply. Whiel we were at sons at Thanksgiving I played a real pinball machine for the first time. Loved it. Back in my day the boys I dated spent all there change on pinball, the girls spent theres on the juke box.

After we were home I discovered DH had a pinball machine on his computer. He has Windows XP. Ok now I am back on mine with Windows 98 and he got me a CD pinball game for my puter for Christmas. When I went to install it it asked if I wanted to register it. So I said yes and It showed up with my whole registration filled in. My name and address. Does this mean it is loaded with spyware?

Then to top it off I can't use it because it says I need a TnL compatable video card.


Title: Re: Klaas
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 10:32:31 PM
Quote from: "IBE"
Ugh.. when you get back is it possible to delete my 2nd post of "my family" and the ref. one to it?  You must have regrouped my dog and cat. When I first looked at the page, it blew the margin, Now it doesn't. Thanks, Merry Christmas
'
IBE


IBE, you are beautiful as are the daughter pictures.  What a beautiful family!!!  Well, after seeing you, I think husband would be glad to do your baths and get rid of me.  I have been a real witch lately but it does not start with a W.  I have been mean, hateful and selfish, and I admit it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Frijole on December 25, 2006, 10:34:43 PM
Yippee... Geraldo on Bill OReilly going into detail on how Aruban law enforcement never intended to investigate the case and how Joran took Natalee into his apt. and something happened and how they didn't search properly etc.etc.  Way to go Geraldo and Bill!  Keep the heat on.  Bill said he would never go there on vacation - only if he was on assignment.

Geraldo said "we should go down there together to investigate".....

 :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 10:36:42 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Sorry for the duplicate. It lied to me and told me the first post didn't go through.


You have already been exploited. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 10:37:36 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
The article Klaas posted is very critical of the Aruban ALE so they KNOW and yet do nothing about it!

Also, still find the blackface in the photo offensive.  If that photo had been taken in Alabama, I can only imagine the reaction.   :roll:


Tarring and feathering in public square. :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 25, 2006, 10:38:26 PM
Quote from: "Frijole"
Yippee... Geraldo on Bill OReilly going into detail on how Aruban law enforcement never intended to investigate the case and how Joran took Natalee into his apt. and something happened and how they didn't search properly etc.etc.  Way to go Geraldo and Bill!  Keep the heat on.  Bill said he would never go there on vacation - only if he was on assignment.

Geraldo said "we should go down there together to investigate".....

 :lol:  :lol:



 :shock: I will check for a rerun as that might well be worth staying up to see, that is if I can stay awake.

Thanks for info!

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 10:39:09 PM
Quote from: "Sam"
Hey Carnut I need some advise here. I am back on my old puter after DH put in a new power supply. Whiel we were at sons at Thanksgiving I played a real pinball machine for the first time. Loved it. Back in my day the boys I dated spent all there change on pinball, the girls spent theres on the juke box.

After we were home I discovered DH had a pinball machine on his computer. He has Windows XP. Ok now I am back on mine with Windows 98 and he got me a CD pinball game for my puter for Christmas. When I went to install it it asked if I wanted to register it. So I said yes and It showed up with my whole registration filled in. My name and address. Does this mean it is loaded with spyware?

Then to top it off I can't use it because it says I need a TnL compatable video card.


Well, no, your registration info is contained in a special windows file/folder called the registry, your info probably was put in there when the W98 was first used or installed. Windows wants that info to try and keep folks from pirating there precious OS's. When other programs come along for a user to install them, they look in the registry for that info and then show it to you and ask you to verify it is correct, so your program will be registered to the same person who supposedly owns the OS. Guess that might be considered a convience.

It's nothing nefarious, it's just the way things work. Course most software sellers then take that info and sometimes use it inappropriatedly, but you agree to that when you agree to register the software. Usually the worst you get out of it is regular emails from the software vendors touting other wonderful things they sell that you can't live without or even regular mail thing newsletters, etc.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 10:40:26 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Sorry for the duplicate. It lied to me and told me the first post didn't go through.


You have already been exploited. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:



 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Frijole on December 25, 2006, 10:40:55 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "Frijole"
Yippee... Geraldo on Bill OReilly going into detail on how Aruban law enforcement never intended to investigate the case and how Joran took Natalee into his apt. and something happened and how they didn't search properly etc.etc.  Way to go Geraldo and Bill!  Keep the heat on.  Bill said he would never go there on vacation - only if he was on assignment.

Geraldo said "we should go down there together to investigate".....

 :lol:  :lol:



 :shock: I will check for a rerun as that might well be worth staying up to see, that is if I can stay awake.

Thanks for info!

.


I just got home from seeing the move "We are Marshall" and tuned in and sat down here...  They mentioned DrVries and his report and the undercover admission by Joran's atty... Wouldn't it be ironic if Bill and Geraldo went down there and put some heat on after all this time?

LMAO.... and the Arubans think Rita, Greta, and Nancy Grace piss them off.   I'll put my money on those 2 stirring the pot up big time.  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 25, 2006, 10:41:25 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Anna"
The article Klaas posted is very critical of the Aruban ALE so they KNOW and yet do nothing about it!

Also, still find the blackface in the photo offensive.  If that photo had been taken in Alabama, I can only imagine the reaction.   :roll:


Tarring and feathering in public square. :wink:



Or running old Bull Conners newsreels on PBS for another fifty years!   :roll: And oh, the horror of it all but no one ever comments on say the LA cops handling riots or even police in Seattle, etc.  Just on Alabama.  I have always found that very odd.


.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Sam on December 25, 2006, 10:45:45 PM
Thank you Carnut for the explanation. It had me worried so I canceled and did the register later thingy.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 10:46:35 PM
Quote from: "Sam"
Hey Carnut I need some advise here. I am back on my old puter after DH put in a new power supply. Whiel we were at sons at Thanksgiving I played a real pinball machine for the first time. Loved it. Back in my day the boys I dated spent all there change on pinball, the girls spent theres on the juke box.

After we were home I discovered DH had a pinball machine on his computer. He has Windows XP. Ok now I am back on mine with Windows 98 and he got me a CD pinball game for my puter for Christmas. When I went to install it it asked if I wanted to register it. So I said yes and It showed up with my whole registration filled in. My name and address. Does this mean it is loaded with spyware?

Then to top it off I can't use it because it says I need a TnL compatable video card.


Ya know if you google 'pinball games' there are tons of them online available for download for free or for a fee if you want to register it after trying it out.

I went looking for such things awhile back myself, but never got one. Think I was more interested in finding a blackjack game myself.

Finally found a freebie blackjack game without all the bells and whistles here Free Online Blackjack (http://tesol.net/scripts/SFEBlackJack/working/sfeblackjack.cgi)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: IBE on December 25, 2006, 10:49:15 PM
Anna Thanks, I know but couldn't think of a word for blooming there. There are very small leaves that are red, so will see tomorrow. Thanks for everything you've done and all other Good Monkeys here.

Carnut What is a mopar? I had a Gremlin once... (stop laughing) 1974, yellow, no less. Bought it used from friend for $400. It was great on pickup, mph, and storing my set school books by grade in the hatchback. I sold it 4 yrs. later for $400.

Missed BOR... what was said? and the picture you are talking about via Klaas... is it on the FP?

Back to Christmas music.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 25, 2006, 10:49:18 PM
Quote from: "Frijole"
[.


I just got home from seeing the move "We are Marshall" and tuned in and sat down here...  They mentioned DrVries and his report and the undercover admission by Joran's atty... Wouldn't it be ironic if Bill and Geraldo went down there and put some heat on after all this time?

LMAO.... and the Arubans think Rita, Greta, and Nancy Grace piss them off.   I'll put my money on those 2 stirring the pot up big time.  :lol:  :lol:[/quote]


Bill O'Reiley has asked Beth several times if there is anything he can do and offered his help.  I wish she would take him up on that.  He has the
audience size to really bring on some heat.

Yes, that I would like to see, for sure!

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 10:54:08 PM
Quote from: "IBE"
Anna Thanks, I know but couldn't think of a word for blooming there. There are very small leaves that are red, so will see tomorrow. Thanks for everything you've done and all other Good Monkeys here.

Carnut What is a mopar? I had a Gremlin once... (stop laughing) 1974, yellow, no less. Bought it used from friend for $400. It was great on pickup, mph, and storing my set school books by grade in the hatchback. I sold it 4 yrs. later for $400.

Missed BOR... what was said? and the picture you are talking about via Klaas... is it on the FP?

Back to Christmas music.


Mopar = Chrysler Corp products.

The term Mopar orginates from a Chrysler Parts subsidiary called MOtor PARts co.

Yep, Gremlin was AMC at the time which later became part of Chrysler Corp. Gremlins were the first useable american made Hatchback/Small wagon type cars, a bit ahead of their time.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LilPuma on December 25, 2006, 10:54:50 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Sorry for the duplicate. It lied to me and told me the first post didn't go through.


You have already been exploited. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


I suppose it thought it was helping by lying.   :x  And I tried posting on the FP and didn't know if I had posted once, twice or not at all.  My puter wasn't telling me anything.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 10:56:02 PM
I looked to see if the new computer has a pinball game on it (it does). However, it says it has something called Reversi. It says if I choose to play it that it will match me with players from around the world. I'm assuming I WON'T choose to play it since I don't know what it is, but can anyone explain it to me? TY

(I'm going to stop bragging on the lappy in a minute, but before I do, I want to also brag on Kuoka for all his help with it. (http://bestsmileys.com/cheering/2.gif))


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LilPuma on December 25, 2006, 10:56:18 PM
I thought I heard they were playing O'Reilly reruns all day today.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 25, 2006, 10:56:28 PM
I couldn't end my day without wishing all Monkeys and families a happy, wonderful, Christmas, Hanhakka h (sp) Holiday!  God Bless you all and thanks for being, Well, "The Monkeys!

Love ya all!

Diana


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 25, 2006, 10:59:43 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "Frijole"
[.


I just got home from seeing the move "We are Marshall" and tuned in and sat down here...  They mentioned DrVries and his report and the undercover admission by Joran's atty... Wouldn't it be ironic if Bill and Geraldo went down there and put some heat on after all this time?

LMAO.... and the Arubans think Rita, Greta, and Nancy Grace piss them off.   I'll put my money on those 2 stirring the pot up big time.  :lol:  :lol:



Bill O'Reiley has asked Beth several times if there is anything he can do and offered his help.  I wish she would take him up on that.  He has the
audience size to really bring on some heat.

Yes, that I would like to see, for sure!

.[/quote]

Anna, I missed that, but he is the one to put the heat on.  I hope Beth does take him up on it.  He  will not stop till something is done, which is why I am an O'Reilly fan.  Him and Geraldo would be awesome at putting the heat on!  I hope they step up and do something!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 11:01:38 PM
Right now I'm happy with the court cases being filed and the tabloids taking up the PR for the island.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 25, 2006, 11:03:54 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Right now I'm happy with the court cases being filed and the tabloids taking up the PR for the island.


Huh, what'd I miss?   The tabloids are "taking up" for the island?  That can't be good....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 11:08:11 PM
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Right now I'm happy with the court cases being filed and the tabloids taking up the PR for the island.


Huh, what'd I miss?   The tabloids are "taking up" for the island?  That can't be good....


It's not exactly AHATA preferred PR.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 25, 2006, 11:09:40 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Right now I'm happy with the court cases being filed and the tabloids taking up the PR for the island.


Huh, what'd I miss?   The tabloids are "taking up" for the island?  That can't be good....


It's not exactly AHATA preferred PR.


Oh ok, whewwww.  had me worried for a sec.  Guees I need to go back and read.  Merry Christmas!


Title: Thanks
Post by: IBE on December 25, 2006, 11:10:27 PM
Carnut  thanks, my Dad designed and cut gears for them, then for turbocharges, tanks and race cars.

Well, I like cooked or raw brussel sprouts dipped into Ranch Dressing and a big glass of sweet iced tea. Love potatoes and tomatoes that way too.

Tylergal it will be quite awhile until I get the grant and by then he'll have your home done!

OH, sometimes, I am very odd when it comes to computers... guess that is why I still have a Mac and know in time, I will have to buy a Mac hybred with ugh Intell/Windows. I remember being at Comdex in early '80s when Gates was the nicest person to developers.

Anyway, some say it's better to wait to upgrade to a new OS when they have some fixups done...ie:  Say it's version 10 well then wait to 10.1

You can set your "upgrade" schedule, time to notify you when the new version comes out.

Thanks for the compliments about my family.

The dog and can are rescues. The dog was on the TV news as up for adoption and how he visited nursing home. I called and they told me there were over 100 call and he'd been adopted.

About 6 mos. later, on Easter, I think, I went to the local place. On his cage it says, "dislikes cats". I asked what kind of dog it was (had one blue eye and a brown eye) Aust.  Shepard mix... -at a certain time of the moon, the eye turns brown--anyway I thought how could he not like cats for Aust. Shepard herd and there are cats on a farm.

I asked to see him; I was seated when he arrived and he took hold of my wrist with both paws and held on very tight. So that was it!

He is great, smart and likes to travel. The cat is named after a cookie and the dog after an emotion. They get along fine and "kiss" each other ie: lick each other where the other can't reach... like under the chin and on top of the head.

So glad you like these and that I got up enough confidence to share them.

Now going to find Cary Grant.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 11:12:53 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Right now I'm happy with the court cases being filed and the tabloids taking up the PR for the island.
Me too! Every time The little Island thinks this case is going to "disappear" another case is filed, or another tabloid gets a "new scoop" etc..... O'Reilly and Geraldo getting fired up helps too, SEE ARUBA.... it will not end until the fat lady sings! That means we want Justice and answers!!.......Merry Christmas Carnut, Anna, Frijole, Diannah and all monkeys!!!! I must say though, after driving 30 miles yesterday, and 70 today... I am glad I am home and the festivities are over for me here! Phewww... I survived again!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Sam on December 25, 2006, 11:13:37 PM
Thanks Carnut  for the link to the blackjack. Of course I had to play for awhile. LOL

I really want a game to play offline. I tie up the phoneline when I am online. Addicted to Freecell. We also have a Euchre disc.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 25, 2006, 11:17:14 PM
Quote from: "Sam"
Thanks Carnut  for the link to the blackjack. Of course I had to play for awhile. LOL

I really want a game to play offline. I tie up the phoneline when I am online. Addicted to Freecell. We also have a Euchre disc.


Freecell is more than enough for me actually. I just got a wild hair and went looking for the blackjack back when the History Channel was showing a series of shows about Las Vegas.

I essentially play nothing but freecell anymore, not much imagination on my part.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 11:19:07 PM
IBE, Lil Puma and BTGirl Merry Christmas to you!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: IBE on December 25, 2006, 11:19:38 PM
Last post should have read:

"was not kind to software developers" Sorry


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 11:19:54 PM
Quote from: "Sam"
Thanks Carnut  for the link to the blackjack. Of course I had to play for awhile. LOL

I really want a game to play offline. I tie up the phoneline when I am online. Addicted to Freecell. We also have a Euchre disc.
Merry Christmas to you Sam!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 11:20:57 PM
Quote from: "Elaine"
IBE, Lil Puma and BTGirl Merry Christmas to you!!!


Merry Christmas to you too Elaine!

I'm gonna miss that cute avatar when the holidays are over.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Sam on December 25, 2006, 11:24:15 PM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "Sam"
Thanks Carnut  for the link to the blackjack. Of course I had to play for awhile. LOL

I really want a game to play offline. I tie up the phoneline when I am online. Addicted to Freecell. We also have a Euchre disc.
Merry Christmas to you Sam!!


Merry Christmas to you Elaine. Your rings are beautiful.

So great to have Natalee mentioned on tv on Christmas.

Good night monkeys. Keep the faith.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 25, 2006, 11:25:01 PM
Merry Christmas and God Bless to you all!

Diana


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Altruist on December 25, 2006, 11:28:21 PM
Watched Deal or No Deal tonight.

They gave two audience members a free trip to the Radisson in Aruba.

Now wouldn't you think that NBC would know better than that?  Time for letter writing to the exec's, smucks.

Nice to see that everybody had such a nice holiday.  Me Too.

Peace & joy to all.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 11:28:49 PM
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Merry Christmas and God Bless to you all!

Diana


Same to you, Dihannah1


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 11:30:00 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Elaine"
IBE, Lil Puma and BTGirl Merry Christmas to you!!!


Merry Christmas to you too Elaine!

I'm gonna miss that cute avatar when the holidays are over.
One thing all my avatars have in common is my glasses... (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j191/meerlyhere/328ff96e.jpg) (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j191/meerlyhere/d4b8d94f.gif) (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j191/meerlyhere/christmas2gif.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 11:30:49 PM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Elaine"
IBE, Lil Puma and BTGirl Merry Christmas to you!!!


Merry Christmas to you too Elaine!

I'm gonna miss that cute avatar when the holidays are over.
One thing all my avatars have in common is my glasses... (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j191/meerlyhere/328ff96e.jpg) (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j191/meerlyhere/d4b8d94f.gif) (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j191/meerlyhere/christmas2gif.gif)


And very cute too!  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: mishy on December 25, 2006, 11:33:15 PM
Quote from: "Florida"
IBE: Thanks for the photos...."Two Cuties"

LOUISE VARGAS: Perfectly stated!

And most important of all ...
Many of You Were Granted with Another Christmas with Your Mother(s)

_________________
Be Kinder Than Necessary
Because Everyone You Meet is Fighting Some Kind Of Battle


Another Christmas with my mother, and what a blessing. Thank you for posting that Anna, and Florida et al for reiterating it.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 11:33:35 PM
Quote from: "Altruist"
Watched Deal or No Deal tonight.

They gave two audience members a free trip to the Radisson in Aruba.

Now wouldn't you think that NBC would know better than that?  Time for letter writing to the exec's, smucks.

Nice to see that everybody had such a nice holiday.  Me Too.

Peace & joy to all.
Thats because there are a lot of empty rooms in Aruba, SOMEONE has to fill em I guess!  :roll: Poor smucks.... :lol: Merry Christmas Altruist!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: mishy on December 25, 2006, 11:39:50 PM
I love Deal or No Deal. The network probably got the deal of a lifetime giving away a trip to Aruba!! And I agree, time to write some letters!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: mishy on December 25, 2006, 11:42:58 PM
IBE: re: Hidalgo, if you don't want to go on ebay and check it out, I'll just tell you that they make really pretty enamel and diamond rings. The enamel colors are just gorgeous!! I love enameled jewelry. I have an antique enamel and diamond ring that I haven't worn in ages. I'm also a huge fan of Faberge  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 25, 2006, 11:43:44 PM
My mother gave me her Good Housekeeping magazine to bring home.  It has a HUGE photo of Dr. Phil on the cover.  Says Dr. Phil's 4 Secrets to Real Change.

Gee, I thought he was done for because of the SKeeters tape.   :roll: Looks as though he is more popular than ever.  Nice for jury poll.

I also read with amazement that someone on another forum claiming to be an U.S. attorney was claiming that the court in CA will enforce the laws of ARUBA on taping a person with or without their knowledge!  

I still believe the State of California will only endorese the laws of the State of California, more or less, but certainly NOT the laws of another country.

Besides, we don't understand their system!  No one does!  

Well, I guess some can dream!!  We will see.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 25, 2006, 11:47:07 PM
Hey guys! Hope Santa was good to everyone!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LouiseVargas on December 25, 2006, 11:48:37 PM
Sam,

Re games, are you playing Payday FreeCell on AOL or another kind of FreeCell?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 11:50:45 PM
Merry Christmas Mishy! Hope you had a great one!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 25, 2006, 11:53:38 PM
Any day is a good one when you learn something, and when I went looking for "turkey pics", I learned that they stay in same sex flocks until breeding season ( March, April ) when the males seperate to find their own female flocks.
The flock I saw this morning was a female flock, I think. They are very similar, except for brownish tips on the wings instead of black.

Not that any of us will ever NEED that info, but it's new knowledge, anyway.  :roll:

Merry Day After Christmas!!!  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BIGORANGECRUSH on December 25, 2006, 11:57:30 PM
Merry Christmas Borg! Get any snow?

BOC on a fly by!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 25, 2006, 11:57:43 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Any day is a good one when you learn something, and when I went looking for "turkey pics", I learned that they stay in same sex flocks until breeding season ( March, April ) when the males seperate to find their own female flocks.
The flock I saw this morning was a female flock, I think. They are very similar, except for brownish tips on the wings instead of black.

Not that any of us will ever NEED that info, but it's new knowledge, anyway.  :roll:

Merry Day After Christmas!!!  :lol:


It's still a holiday - it's officially now Boxing Day!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 25, 2006, 11:58:46 PM
Quote from: "BIGORANGECRUSH"
Merry Christmas Borg! Get any snow?

BOC on a fly by!!


Hey BOC! Last I looked it was raining................is it snowing in JC?? :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 25, 2006, 11:59:19 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Any day is a good one when you learn something, and when I went looking for "turkey pics", I learned that they stay in same sex flocks until breeding season ( March, April ) when the males seperate to find their own female flocks.
The flock I saw this morning was a female flock, I think. They are very similar, except for brownish tips on the wings instead of black.

Not that any of us will ever NEED that info, but it's new knowledge, anyway.  :roll:

Merry Day After Christmas!!!  :lol:
LOL! Wow, it IS 12:08 here on the east coast. Hope you had a great day CBB! ......LOUISEVARGAS, the same applies, hope your holiday was all you desired!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 25, 2006, 11:59:38 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "IBE"
Anna Thanks, I know but couldn't think of a word for blooming there. There are very small leaves that are red, so will see tomorrow. Thanks for everything you've done and all other Good Monkeys here.

Carnut What is a mopar? I had a Gremlin once... (stop laughing) 1974, yellow, no less. Bought it used from friend for $400. It was great on pickup, mph, and storing my set school books by grade in the hatchback. I sold it 4 yrs. later for $400.

Missed BOR... what was said? and the picture you are talking about via Klaas... is it on the FP?

Back to Christmas music.


Mopar = Chrysler Corp products.

AMC = Romney and Romney equal very attractive and hopefully next POTUS.

The term Mopar orginates from a Chrysler Parts subsidiary called MOtor PARts co.

Yep, Gremlin was AMC at the time which later became part of Chrysler Corp. Gremlins were the first useable american made Hatchback/Small wagon type cars, a bit ahead of their time.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BIGORANGECRUSH on December 26, 2006, 12:01:53 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "BIGORANGECRUSH"
Merry Christmas Borg! Get any snow?

BOC on a fly by!!


Hey BOC! Last I looked it was raining................is it snowing in JC?? :shock:


Suppose to have flurries! But too warm I think!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 12:03:38 AM
Quote from: "BIGORANGECRUSH"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "BIGORANGECRUSH"
Merry Christmas Borg! Get any snow?

BOC on a fly by!!


Hey BOC! Last I looked it was raining................is it snowing in JC?? :shock:


Suppose to have flurries! But too warm I think!


I had heard that, but haven't seen any yet. It is getting colder!  :wink:

BOC and I are about 15 miles apart! Did you hear about the flock of turkeys in my back yard today???


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BIGORANGECRUSH on December 26, 2006, 12:06:40 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "BIGORANGECRUSH"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "BIGORANGECRUSH"
Merry Christmas Borg! Get any snow?

BOC on a fly by!!


Hey BOC! Last I looked it was raining................is it snowing in JC?? :shock:


Suppose to have flurries! But too warm I think!


I had heard that, but haven't seen any yet. It is getting colder!  :wink:

BOC and I are about 15 miles apart! Did you hear about the flock of turkeys in my back yard today???


I would assume there are lots of turkeys over at DB!!  :wink:  :lol: Just kidding monkeys as we are big rivals in sports and Borg used to be a DB cheerleader! :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: mishy on December 26, 2006, 12:06:46 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Merry Christmas Mishy! Hope you had a great one!


I've had a great one Lanie and I hope you have as well...I think it's time to eat something else though :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 26, 2006, 12:06:50 AM
Tylergal and Tcumom I see you two lurking.... Hope you had a wonderful holiday!!! You too BOC!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 12:10:24 AM
Quote from: "BIGORANGECRUSH"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "BIGORANGECRUSH"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "BIGORANGECRUSH"
Merry Christmas Borg! Get any snow?

BOC on a fly by!!


Hey BOC! Last I looked it was raining................is it snowing in JC?? :shock:


Suppose to have flurries! But too warm I think!


I had heard that, but haven't seen any yet. It is getting colder!  :wink:

BOC and I are about 15 miles apart! Did you hear about the flock of turkeys in my back yard today???


I would assume there are lots of turkeys over at DB!!  :wink:  :lol: Just kidding monkeys as we are big rivals in sports and Borg used to be a DB cheerleader! :D


Well, the Indians eat well, anyway!  :wink: Have no idea what a "Hilltopper" does except go down the other side!  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BIGORANGECRUSH on December 26, 2006, 12:10:50 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Tylergal and Tcumom I see you two lurking.... Hope you had a wonderful holiday!!! You too BOC!


Back at you Elaine!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 26, 2006, 12:11:24 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Tylergal and Tcumom I see you two lurking.... Hope you had a wonderful holiday!!! You too BOC!

Hi Elaine!  I'm winding down reading the monkey notes and watching Operation Petticoat ~ too bad these are vintage movies now ~ I guess kids just are entertained with this type of movie anymore!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 26, 2006, 12:12:03 AM
Quote from: "BIGORANGECRUSH"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "BIGORANGECRUSH"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "BIGORANGECRUSH"
Merry Christmas Borg! Get any snow?

BOC on a fly by!!


Hey BOC! Last I looked it was raining................is it snowing in JC?? :shock:


Suppose to have flurries! But too warm I think!


I had heard that, but haven't seen any yet. It is getting colder!  :wink:

BOC and I are about 15 miles apart! Did you hear about the flock of turkeys in my back yard today???
I would assume there are lots of turkeys over at DB!!  :wink:  :lol: Just kidding monkeys as we are big rivals in sports and Borg used to be a DB cheerleader! :D
The Eagles whopped Dallas's butts today , woohoooooooo...  Go Eagles go!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 26, 2006, 12:12:21 AM
Quote from: "tcumom"
Quote from: "Elaine"
Tylergal and Tcumom I see you two lurking.... Hope you had a wonderful holiday!!! You too BOC!

Hi Elaine!  I'm winding down reading the monkey notes and watching Operation Petticoat ~ too bad these are vintage movies now ~ I guess kids just are entertained with this type of movie anymore!


***meant to say *aren't* entertained.....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 12:14:03 AM
Merry Christmas to you BOC and an offering of the peacepipe from me to you!  :wink:

tcumom and Elainw, I totally agree with you about movies. They used to know how to make them!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: sb on December 26, 2006, 12:15:27 AM
Hi everyone,

Hope y'all had a great day. Please keep me in your thoughts and prayers tonight, I have had a really difficult Christmas this year and I know now how it can be when that happens to people. I usually enjoy Christmas thoroughly but it's been so overshadowed by things that I can't...

I feel for others that have gone through, or are going through, the same thing.

I'll be back tomorrow evening.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 26, 2006, 12:16:37 AM
Quote from: "tcumom"
Quote from: "tcumom"
Quote from: "Elaine"
Tylergal and Tcumom I see you two lurking.... Hope you had a wonderful holiday!!! You too BOC!

Hi Elaine!  I'm winding down reading the monkey notes and watching Operation Petticoat ~ too bad these are vintage movies now ~ I guess kids just are entertained with this type of movie anymore!


***meant to say *aren't* entertained.....
I knew what you meant.... they do not make em like they used to.....vintage movies, are the best!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 12:18:00 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Tylergal and Tcumom I see you two lurking.... Hope you had a wonderful holiday!!! You too BOC!


Thank you, Elaine.  I hope you had a wonderful day.  We had a great Christmas!  It is always great when health is good and we get to see all the kids and grandkids.

Oh, I was just on idle while I was cleaning house and putting away some Christmas decorations.  It takes a while so I am getting an early start, or should I just leave them up until next year and beat the rush!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BIGORANGECRUSH on December 26, 2006, 12:18:10 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Merry Christmas to you BOC and an offering of the peacepipe from me to you!  :wink:

tcumom and Elainw, I totally agree with you about movies. They used to know how to make them!


Time for alittle Peace on Earth! :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 26, 2006, 12:18:37 AM
Quote from: "sb"
Hi everyone,

Hope y'all had a great day. Please keep me in your thoughts and prayers tonight, I have had a really difficult Christmas this year and I know now how it can be when that happens to people. I usually enjoy Christmas thoroughly but it's been so overshadowed by things that I can't...

I feel for others that have gone through, or are going through, the same thing.

I'll be back tomorrow evening.
Sb, I hope things get better for you! We will pray for you for sure, we hurt when one of our monkey buddies hurt!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 12:19:40 AM
Quote from: "sb"
Hi everyone,

Hope y'all had a great day. Please keep me in your thoughts and prayers tonight, I have had a really difficult Christmas this year and I know now how it can be when that happens to people. I usually enjoy Christmas thoroughly but it's been so overshadowed by things that I can't...

I feel for others that have gone through, or are going through, the same thing.

I'll be back tomorrow evening.


Sb, I am so sorry to hear that your Christmas has not been a beautiful and glorious event.  I will pray that days ahead will be much better.  Please visit with us when you can.  Hugs to you and yours.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 12:19:53 AM
Quote from: "sb"
Hi everyone,

Hope y'all had a great day. Please keep me in your thoughts and prayers tonight, I have had a really difficult Christmas this year and I know now how it can be when that happens to people. I usually enjoy Christmas thoroughly but it's been so overshadowed by things that I can't...

I feel for others that have gone through, or are going through, the same thing.

I'll be back tomorrow evening.


Will do, sb. You're right that others have been through really tough times and Holidays just magnify it. You are not alone, and there is understanding right here. Talk about it when you can, until YOU don't need to anymore. I'm here if you need me. Say the word, I'll send you my e-mail. Take care, and God Bless.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 12:21:44 AM
CBB, your turkey pictures and your sighting was so much fun to read about.  It just seemed almost miraculous to hear about something like that.  All I had was a stray cat that tried to beat up on Cecile when I let her out to potty.  I need a dog in addition to a face lift.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: sb on December 26, 2006, 12:22:21 AM
Somehow I knew our Monkeys would understand. Thanks guys!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 26, 2006, 12:23:10 AM
sb ~ I am sad to hear your holidays have been difficult ~ I don't know what's going on with you/family or whatever.......please know that I care about all the monkeys, and I will say prayers for you and think positive thoughts ....... many hugs, and a better year to come for you  :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 12:24:09 AM
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Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 12:25:41 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
CBB, your turkey pictures and your sighting was so much fun to read about.  It just seemed almost miraculous to hear about something like that.  All I had was a stray cat that tried to beat up on Cecile when I let her out to potty.  I need a dog in addition to a face lift.


You are such a jewel. Tyler! You've got a sharp dry wit, that I really enjoy! Takes a sharp cookie to pull that off!  :wink:

I had the same feeling that you mentioned as those turkeys just came up in the yard one by one, and kept coming!

I kinda felt like God was wishing me Merry Christmas, and remembering me as I was remembering Him!


Title: tThank you Tcumom
Post by: IBE on December 26, 2006, 12:29:00 AM
Thank you tcumom

Just turned it on. One of my favorite movies from HS or so.[/b]


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: sb on December 26, 2006, 12:29:12 AM
Yes, a better year is definitely NEEDED, that's for sure. It doesn't seem like a year could get any worse than the one I just finished.

Thanks y'all for your comments.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 12:29:55 AM
Quote from: "sb"
Somehow I knew our Monkeys would understand. Thanks guys!


The Christmas' of our youth set a really high standard that we used to take for granted. Those Christmas's aren't a given anymore, and the comparison is almost inherant, unintentional, for sure, but it can make difficultiy turn into crisis. It's very real, sb. It's real pain.

Christmas with loss is not for sissys!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Florida on December 26, 2006, 12:38:07 AM
Quote from: "sb"
Hi everyone,

Hope y'all had a great day. Please keep me in your thoughts and prayers tonight, I have had a really difficult Christmas this year and I know now how it can be when that happens to people. I usually enjoy Christmas thoroughly but it's been so overshadowed by things that I can't...

I feel for others that have gone through, or are going through, the same thing.

I'll be back tomorrow evening.


SB: My initials are SBH....

I think I know how you feel....
"This Too Shall Pass"


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: mishy on December 26, 2006, 12:38:57 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
CBB, your turkey pictures and your sighting was so much fun to read about.  It just seemed almost miraculous to hear about something like that.  All I had was a stray cat that tried to beat up on Cecile when I let her out to potty.  I need a dog in addition to a face lift.


 :lol:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 12:40:05 AM
Quote from: "sb"
Yes, a better year is definitely NEEDED, that's for sure. It doesn't seem like a year could get any worse than the one I just finished.

Thanks y'all for your comments.


Sb, I am very concerned about you.  This is not like you to seem so dismal at a precious time of year like this, the birth of the Lord, and you as a believer, have to know this is a wonderful time.  Did you attend Christmas Eve services last night?  They were so beautiful.  It just gave me an uplifted feeling.  I am so sorry you are down.  I wish something I could say or do would make you feel better.  If so, by all means, let me know.  I hope you know you have friends here, and I hope you count me among those.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: mishy on December 26, 2006, 12:42:37 AM
Quote from: "sb"
Somehow I knew our Monkeys would understand. Thanks guys!


Prayers for you Sb...I'm sorry you've had a hard Christmas!! {{{HUGS}}}


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 26, 2006, 12:43:20 AM
Quote from: "sb"
Yes, a better year is definitely NEEDED, that's for sure. It doesn't seem like a year could get any worse than the one I just finished.

Thanks y'all for your comments.
Sb, you are More than welcome! I don't know your sorrow or how deep it is, but I do remember that your Folks were in an accident not to long ago. I hope they are ok! My Mother was thrown across a moving bus in November. She ended up with a broken hip, which she IS healing pretty well from now. I have been running back and forth to try and help out when I can. Yesterday, she still wanted her children there. She is frail and walking w/a walker. Not quite the woman we all saw just last Christmas, so strong and independent. She lost her temper yesterday a few times snapping at us all for little things! She apologized at the end of the nite and said she felt stupid. I told her to "knock it off" with the apologies and that she is allowed to express her greif. Somehow, I guess i feel lucky that she is not worse off I guess. Some Monkeys have lost their Parents (My Dad is long gone) and some have parents in the hospital. It is NOT easy, but I am glad for everyone here as it does seem to help, the way we care about each other here! I just hope that whatever has your heart heavy, somehow knowing we are here with our ears and hearts open for one another, helps each one of you here as it does me.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BIGORANGECRUSH on December 26, 2006, 12:49:41 AM
Nite Monks!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: mishy on December 26, 2006, 12:51:48 AM
Night BOC. I'm right behind ya. Gotta turn out all the Christmas lights and grab something else to eat and get ready for bed. My thoughts and prayers are with each and everyone of you, especially Natalee and her family...

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/mishyp/MC-00280-C.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: sb on December 26, 2006, 12:54:16 AM
All I can really say is... it is far easier to deal with other people's physical problems, than it is to deal with (and put up with) their emotional problems.

My family has deep, difficult, complicated emotional problems that are just compounded by their physical fallout from the recent accident. I really strive to rise above all that, but it's almost impossible to escape. I would almost rather be alone, EVEN AT CHRISTMAS, than have to deal with emotional cripples who baby one another and take out their frustrations on everyone else. And who manipulate and seek to control others for their own selfish, self-centered reasons.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 12:55:14 AM
I rarely if ever discuss my "real" disappointments in life and when I do, I try to be sober about it.  I lost my mother near Christmastime a few years back and I still miss her and something happened to me this Christmas that really brought all that loss of her back to me like a roller coaster rushing downhill that would not stop.  It was a monetary loss.  It was a lot of money but what I really lost was trust in another human being.  I trusted someone with real property that both my mother and brother, (and especially my husband) asked me not to do.  This person, I felt, needed a chance, another chance in life.  Given the new-found sobriety and clean lifestyle, I entrusted a relative with my mother's property.  I even shared that he (having helped me care for my mother in her waning years) was going to do what was right.  My DH kept telling me I needed to take a closer look at things.  I gave him half my land and real property in Virginia.  He took out a second mortgage on it.  It is going to be in foreclosure if I do not bail him out and my DH is telling me not to, that the land is not that important, that I made the decision and to let it go.  It's a lot of money for me.  It was property my mother trusted me to take care of.  I thought she would appreciate that I did, what she had taught me, to trust people, to be good to people, to give someone another chance, to turn the other cheek.  Now, I have misplaced my trust and either will lose a lot of money retaking this as I can with my brother who is an attorney or I can let it go and just call it the end of a chapter.  I do not know what my mother would want me to do.  My husband wants me to call it a good experience and let it go.  That's hard, but he thinks I am throwing money in on top of money and even with my brother stepping in to save it for me, it is still buying back at a higher price than I should have to pay but it was a family member and I thought he would want to keep it in the family.  I am really upset that this happened, but see we all have our thorns in our sides.  My BIL who lives in that area is a banker and I have a brother who is an attorney and I am sure we could work this out, but if I pay it off and bail him out, I have theoretically bought back my own land which I would like to have but DH says it is too high a price and to just let it go.  My brother feels that I am too emotionally attached to the land and my hurt is more pride than anything else.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 26, 2006, 01:07:09 AM
Tyler ~ First of all, I'm so, so sorry about your situation....what a mess, and disappointment.

Have you all helped this family member before?  Bailed him out of trouble, given money or whatever?  Maybe he *thinks/knows* you'll come to the rescue again....even if this time it's to buy back your own land?

I guess the question is.....is it the land itself, or your promise to your Mother that is causing the indecision as to what to do.....hope this makes sense.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 01:12:09 AM
Yes, TCUM, you are right on all counts.  I have bailed him out many times because he was always nice to my mother.  Perhaps he was a better con artist than I knew but he did help her immensely and I felt like I could give him the land and it would give him something to have some pride in, something to care for and he had quit drinking a few years ago and was working regularly, but yes, I have bailed him out before and my DH tells me not this time, although he knows it will be up to me if I do.  I just wish I were not sentimentally attached to the land, where I rode horses, helped my grandmother garden.  My husband keeps telling me if you give someone a gift, you cut the ribbons to it and that means you let it go, because it is a gift and after you give it up, you have no voice and no choice in it, but it hurts.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 26, 2006, 01:12:19 AM
Tyler looks like it comes down to how much you want to  punish the errant relative or how bad you want the land back.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 26, 2006, 01:12:51 AM
From what the two of you just poured your hearts out about , I found a common thread. Two different situations, but a commonality in both situations. Hurt feelings due to others selfishness. And I have been there several times myself , it is no fun. We extend ourselves to those we care about in life and just hope that they would be as courteous to our emotional needs. (tyler I know you said it is also money in your case) But I also hear "between the lines" it isn't even so much the money, this person broke your heart. Someone has hurt Sb the same way, but in a different situation. And,having been there myself I know how painful it is when people do not treat us the way we would treat them, especially when it is people we care so much about. It hurts a lot!!..... Somehow, we always come out better people in the long run though we may not know it right away. This is why I love all the people here so much. This forum really does have the good hearted people who care   more about others even than themselves, that is why we care about Natalee too and what drew us to this forum. We care, we all care, and in the long run.... that is all that matters. I hope things get better, because you all deserve that!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 26, 2006, 01:13:57 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Yes, TCUM, you are right on all counts.  I have bailed him out many times because he was always nice to my mother.  Perhaps he was a better con artist than I knew but he did help her immensely and I felt like I could give him the land and it would give him something to have some pride in, something to care for and he had quit drinking a few years ago and was working regularly, but yes, I have bailed him out before and my DH tells me not this time, although he knows it will be up to me if I do.  I just wish I were not sentimentally attached to the land, where I rode horses, helped my grandmother garden.  My husband keeps telling me if you give someone a gift, you cut the ribbons to it and that means you let it go, because it is a gift and after you give it up, you have no voice and no choice in it, but it hurts.


Well, now did you give the land as a gift or did entrust it to someones care?

Seems to me you think you trusted it to his care and didn't really think you were giving it to him.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 01:20:19 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Yes, TCUM, you are right on all counts.  I have bailed him out many times because he was always nice to my mother.  Perhaps he was a better con artist than I knew but he did help her immensely and I felt like I could give him the land and it would give him something to have some pride in, something to care for and he had quit drinking a few years ago and was working regularly, but yes, I have bailed him out before and my DH tells me not this time, although he knows it will be up to me if I do.  I just wish I were not sentimentally attached to the land, where I rode horses, helped my grandmother garden.  My husband keeps telling me if you give someone a gift, you cut the ribbons to it and that means you let it go, because it is a gift and after you give it up, you have no voice and no choice in it, but it hurts.


Well, now did you give the land as a gift or did entrust it to someones care?

Seems to me you think you trusted it to his care and didn't really think you were giving it to him.


Well, I did "really gift him" in a way sotaspeak.  I deeded him half the land but there is a house on it (small house that was where my grandparents moved to after they were older and could not care for themselves and he lived there near my mother and helped care for her, while living in the house.  I deeded him that land (verbal agreement) under the conditions that he would live there, fix the house up as he had planned to do and take care of some horses that my brother and I owned at one time but have subsequently sold.  He did that for about 4-5 years and it was not that big a deal.  He actually enjoyed the horses but we felt it was too much to ask of him so we sold the horses and he had planted gardens (vegetables and flowers) and was really caring for it and then he got a loan to do more work on the house.  Did not repay the loan.  How could he not do that when he had no rent, no bills except a car payment.  Sheesh.  I need to go let it go.  I did not mean to vent.  I apologize.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 01:21:25 AM
Quote from: "sb"
All I can really say is... it is far easier to deal with other people's physical problems, than it is to deal with (and put up with) their emotional problems.

My family has deep, difficult, complicated emotional problems that are just compounded by their physical fallout from the recent accident. I really strive to rise above all that, but it's almost impossible to escape. I would almost rather be alone, EVEN AT CHRISTMAS, than have to deal with emotional cripples who baby one another and take out their frustrations on everyone else. And who manipulate and seek to control others for their own selfish, self-centered reasons.


sb, and Tyler,

God, no wonder you have brought us here together! Amen!

I'm going to sell the house this year................the house that was paid for in full and given to me in a divorce that my ex said was to protect our assets. He gave me everything. And I trusted...............

THEN I began to discover. Discover his porn addiction, his escort in Florida, his SECOND mortgage on the house he had given me, my $350,000 indebtness on joint accounts. I fell into a dark hole and emerged unwilling to let it stand, as he fell closer and closer to bankruptcy. He moved back in in exchange for paying the bills and I started my own company with the money my Mom left me. It's a scary feeling of risking stewardship of all that she intended for me.  We had worked together in his company and I tried to sustain both and have worked 16-18 hours a day, struggling to make it all work, while vacilating from hurt to homicidal tendancies toward him..................and came home to have his presence there too! I got off all the accounts I could, and tried to take comfort in the fact that at least the mortgage was being paid down,......
2 weeks ago, I pulled up my credit report. He had topped the credit line on the house AGAIN! The bank refuses to acknowledge my request made at the time to CLOSE the line, and no, I didn't follow up the conversation in writing.
He's going down, and I'm terrified of what the future holds. I do know who holds the future, and I'm hanging on!

My brother was an alcoholic, sb. I honestly believe my only living relative has a personality disorder. I know dysfunctional and it's an incredible emotional drain on those of us who don't particip[ate in the emotional dysfunction. We just hurt and try to clean up the wreckage.
I learned to seperate my interaction with them, and started interacting with what God would have me do in their presence. Honest. I've prayed so many times to take control of my heart, my mouth, my eyes, my hands and help me fulfill His purpose in relation to them. It removed them from the equation and allowed some of the emotional damage I risked, to be removed.

God love you both, {{{HUGS}}}


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 26, 2006, 01:21:31 AM
Oh, Tyler ~ I truly understand everything you've said.  I ramble, and I will try not to, tonight (that's why I rarely post).
The only thing I can liken this to is when my Mom sold her home of 45 years in Dallas, a few years ago, to come and live closer to us.  You can imagine the memories and sentimental feelings of 4 children growing up there....well, as I figured would happen, the new owners (with 4 children, too!) came in and of course, wanted to update, tear out, open up......you get the picture......Mom was absolutey devastated....nothing she could do......but we told her......our memories of those days are with us always and forever....we won't lose them.  And, what memories they are!

Maybe you can look at the land as a wonderful memory that you'll have for always.....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 26, 2006, 01:24:18 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Yes, TCUM, you are right on all counts.  I have bailed him out many times because he was always nice to my mother.  Perhaps he was a better con artist than I knew but he did help her immensely and I felt like I could give him the land and it would give him something to have some pride in, something to care for and he had quit drinking a few years ago and was working regularly, but yes, I have bailed him out before and my DH tells me not this time, although he knows it will be up to me if I do.  I just wish I were not sentimentally attached to the land, where I rode horses, helped my grandmother garden.  My husband keeps telling me if you give someone a gift, you cut the ribbons to it and that means you let it go, because it is a gift and after you give it up, you have no voice and no choice in it, but it hurts.


Well, now did you give the land as a gift or did entrust it to someones care?

Seems to me you think you trusted it to his care and didn't really think you were giving it to him.


Well, I did "really gift him" in a way sotaspeak.  I deeded him half the land but there is a house on it (small house that was where my grandparents moved to after they were older and could not care for themselves and he lived there near my mother and helped care for her, while living in the house.  I deeded him that land (verbal agreement) under the conditions that he would live there, fix the house up as he had planned to do and take care of some horses that my brother and I owned at one time but have subsequently sold.  He did that for about 4-5 years and it was not that big a deal.  He actually enjoyed the horses but we felt it was too much to ask of him so we sold the horses and he had planted gardens (vegetables and flowers) and was really caring for it and then he got a loan to do more work on the house.  Did not repay the loan.  How could he not do that when he had no rent, no bills except a car payment.  Sheesh.  I need to go let it go.  I did not mean to vent.  I apologize.
This is my last question here. Did he use the loan money as he said, to fix the house?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 01:26:01 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Yes, TCUM, you are right on all counts.  I have bailed him out many times because he was always nice to my mother.  Perhaps he was a better con artist than I knew but he did help her immensely and I felt like I could give him the land and it would give him something to have some pride in, something to care for and he had quit drinking a few years ago and was working regularly, but yes, I have bailed him out before and my DH tells me not this time, although he knows it will be up to me if I do.  I just wish I were not sentimentally attached to the land, where I rode horses, helped my grandmother garden.  My husband keeps telling me if you give someone a gift, you cut the ribbons to it and that means you let it go, because it is a gift and after you give it up, you have no voice and no choice in it, but it hurts.


Well, now did you give the land as a gift or did entrust it to someones care?

Seems to me you think you trusted it to his care and didn't really think you were giving it to him.


Well, I did "really gift him" in a way sotaspeak.  I deeded him half the land but there is a house on it (small house that was where my grandparents moved to after they were older and could not care for themselves and he lived there near my mother and helped care for her, while living in the house.  I deeded him that land (verbal agreement) under the conditions that he would live there, fix the house up as he had planned to do and take care of some horses that my brother and I owned at one time but have subsequently sold.  He did that for about 4-5 years and it was not that big a deal.  He actually enjoyed the horses but we felt it was too much to ask of him so we sold the horses and he had planted gardens (vegetables and flowers) and was really caring for it and then he got a loan to do more work on the house.  Did not repay the loan.  How could he not do that when he had no rent, no bills except a car payment.  Sheesh.  I need to go let it go.  I did not mean to vent.  I apologize.
This is my last question here. Did he use the loan money as he said, to fix the house?


Nowhere near it.  He borrowed $186,000 and did about $25,000 in repairs to the house.  :cry:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 26, 2006, 01:26:37 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Yes, TCUM, you are right on all counts.  I have bailed him out many times because he was always nice to my mother.  Perhaps he was a better con artist than I knew but he did help her immensely and I felt like I could give him the land and it would give him something to have some pride in, something to care for and he had quit drinking a few years ago and was working regularly, but yes, I have bailed him out before and my DH tells me not this time, although he knows it will be up to me if I do.  I just wish I were not sentimentally attached to the land, where I rode horses, helped my grandmother garden.  My husband keeps telling me if you give someone a gift, you cut the ribbons to it and that means you let it go, because it is a gift and after you give it up, you have no voice and no choice in it, but it hurts.


Well, now did you give the land as a gift or did entrust it to someones care?

Seems to me you think you trusted it to his care and didn't really think you were giving it to him.


Well, I did "really gift him" in a way sotaspeak.  I deeded him half the land but there is a house on it (small house that was where my grandparents moved to after they were older and could not care for themselves and he lived there near my mother and helped care for her, while living in the house.  I deeded him that land (verbal agreement) under the conditions that he would live there, fix the house up as he had planned to do and take care of some horses that my brother and I owned at one time but have subsequently sold.  He did that for about 4-5 years and it was not that big a deal.  He actually enjoyed the horses but we felt it was too much to ask of him so we sold the horses and he had planted gardens (vegetables and flowers) and was really caring for it and then he got a loan to do more work on the house.  Did not repay the loan.  How could he not do that when he had no rent, no bills except a car payment.  Sheesh.  I need to go let it go.  I did not mean to vent.  I apologize.


Ok, round here that woulda been on paper as a 'contract for deed' so to speak, when the contract stipulations were met he would receive the deed.

If you were liable for any of the loan on the property I'd probably lean to trying to pay off the loan and kickout the ner do well and be happy with the bought back property even at inflated price.

If you have no liablity, then like DH says, let it go and remember the good times.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 01:28:57 AM
I really have no liability.  I guess I am just kicking myself and recalling how many times I have been so gullible, even when I knew he was past due back in the fall, and he told me he was getting a bonus at work and would catch it up among other lies about the reasons he had not paid it.  

It's just "buyers remorse," Carnut.  Thank you.  I guess there is no fool like an old fool.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 26, 2006, 01:29:45 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
I really have no liability.  I guess I am just kicking myself and recalling how many times I have been so gullible, even when I knew he was past due back in the fall, and he told me he was getting a bonus at work and would catch it up among other lies about the reasons he had not paid it.  

It's just "buyers remorse," Carnut.  Thank you.  I guess there is no fool like an old fool.


Heh,heh, been there, done that, oh if only I had the money back.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 26, 2006, 01:30:21 AM
You all are kinda making me think I'm better off staying single.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 01:32:35 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
I really have no liability.  I guess I am just kicking myself and recalling how many times I have been so gullible, even when I knew he was past due back in the fall, and he told me he was getting a bonus at work and would catch it up among other lies about the reasons he had not paid it.  

It's just "buyers remorse," Carnut.  Thank you.  I guess there is no fool like an old fool.


NO!!!
Tyler, I've spent a long time beating myself up for stupidity. We will learn from these experiences, but we were NOT wrong, or stupid. We were just functioning on a higher level than those we were dealing with. Our ethics were higher, our morals were better.

And, now we know that when an ethical person deals with an unethical one, the unethical one always has an advantage!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 01:32:47 AM
CBB, your dilemma is much worse than mine.  Darling, I am so sorry about all that your ex put you through.  You have a broken financial situation and a broken heart.  That is even worse.  

I so hope everything for you will turn out wonderfully and I will pray for you and Sb, my monkey friends.  Now it's another year coming up and I am not going to look back.  This is the first time I have ever, ever mentioned this to anyone except family members and even my kids have not been told.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 01:33:56 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
I really have no liability.  I guess I am just kicking myself and recalling how many times I have been so gullible, even when I knew he was past due back in the fall, and he told me he was getting a bonus at work and would catch it up among other lies about the reasons he had not paid it.  

It's just "buyers remorse," Carnut.  Thank you.  I guess there is no fool like an old fool.


NO!!!
Tyler, I've spent a long time beating myself up for stupidity. We will learn from these experiences, but we were NOT wrong, or stupid. We were just functioning on a higher level than those we were dealing with. Our ethics were higher, our morals were better.

And, now we know that when an ethical person deals with an unethical one, the unethical one always has an advantage!


You are so wise to see it that way and I know that you are exactly right.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 01:35:40 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
You all are kinda making me think I'm better off staying single.


That's where I am.

I'm ok, Tyler and I'm taking it a day at a time. I do know how it feels to have trust betrayed, and it enrages me to know that so do you! I'm so sorry!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 26, 2006, 01:37:16 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"

Nowhere near it.  He borrowed $186,000 and did about $25,000 in repairs to the house.  :cry:
That is why he does not care about paying it back, saddly. All that money was used for something, HE enjoyed, and sadly he didn't care enough about any repercussions, such as that when the loan defaulted the house would be lost. And that people {such as yourself ) would be hurt. Something has him on the wrong path and it isn't a good one ( I am speaking from experience here ) I have an addict/alcoholic in my family, been there and done that, do NOT want this person to die or end up homeless etc. Yes, I have lost things that cannot be replaced and the thing that bothers me the most, now that I have gotten over the financial losses...is why? Why couldn;t I help this person change? A female none the less. You have a decision to make, I pray that you will come to the best decision!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 26, 2006, 01:40:30 AM
Tyler and CBB ~ I wish I were as well-spoken as you both ~ with that said, you BOTH have such good, kind hearts that you were willing to help out ex-husband (CBB) and relative (Tyler) where many others would not have been so trusting and willing to give another chance.  You can look in the mirror and know that you did all you could, and went the extra mile to help....hopefully, others will learn from the example you've set......having faith and trust in others.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 26, 2006, 01:41:03 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
I really have no liability.  I guess I am just kicking myself and recalling how many times I have been so gullible, even when I knew he was past due back in the fall, and he told me he was getting a bonus at work and would catch it up among other lies about the reasons he had not paid it.  

It's just "buyers remorse," Carnut.  Thank you.  I guess there is no fool like an old fool.


Heh,heh, been there, done that, oh if only I had the money back.
You too huh?And CBB is still going through it. Why oh why do we all get a turn?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 01:41:22 AM
Oh, we are all going to land feet first soon.  Everything will be in the past and 2007 is going to bring us great opportunities and we will help Beth see her way through this and hopefully get a conviction of those responsible for torturing and murdering Natalee.  I am sure Beth has probably lost so much financially and she probably never looks at the financial end as she has lost so much more and to think what she has lost is all the fault of three ugly, trashy PIMPS.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 01:42:26 AM
Quote from: "tcumom"
Tyler and CBB ~ I wish I were as well-spoken as you both ~ with that said, you BOTH have such good, kind hearts that you were willing to help out ex-husband (CBB) and relative (Tyler) where many others would not have been so trusting and willing to give another chance.  You can look in the mirror and know that you did all you could, and went the extra mile to help....hopefully, others will learn from the example you've set......having faith and trust in others.


You are so sweet, TCUM and I appreciate every word you post here, and wish you posted more often.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 01:43:57 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Oh, we are all going to land feet first soon.  Everything will be in the past and 2007 is going to bring us great opportunities and we will help Beth see her way through this and hopefully get a conviction of those responsible for torturing and murdering Natalee.  I am sure Beth has probably lost so much financially and she probably never looks at the financial end as she has lost so much more and to think what she has lost is all the fault of three ugly, trashy PIMPS.


Well said!  :wink: Moving forward is what it's all about!

and thanks, Elaine and tcu!  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 26, 2006, 01:45:24 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Oh, we are all going to land feet first soon.  Everything will be in the past and 2007 is going to bring us great opportunities and we will help Beth see her way through this and hopefully get a conviction of those responsible for torturing and murdering Natalee.  I am sure Beth has probably lost so much financially and she probably never looks at the financial end as she has lost so much more and to think what she has lost is all the fault of three ugly, trashy PIMPS.
Three pimps who wish we would all just go away and shut up! No deal!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 26, 2006, 01:46:10 AM
Tyler ~ thanks for the kind words ~ I still feel awkward posting, even after all these months.  Although I don't say too much, I'm always here, listening to my monkey friends!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 01:47:45 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Oh, we are all going to land feet first soon.  Everything will be in the past and 2007 is going to bring us great opportunities and we will help Beth see her way through this and hopefully get a conviction of those responsible for torturing and murdering Natalee.  I am sure Beth has probably lost so much financially and she probably never looks at the financial end as she has lost so much more and to think what she has lost is all the fault of three ugly, trashy PIMPS.
Three pimps who wish we would all just go away and shut up! No deal!


Nope, not making that deal either, Elaine. I think that's why we're all here. We're good at standing firm in the face of injustice, and have the ability to feel empathy for Natalee's family.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 01:49:28 AM
Quote from: "tcumom"
Tyler ~ thanks for the kind words ~ I still feel awkward posting, even after all these months.  Although I don't say too much, I'm always here, listening to my monkey friends!


tcumom? I love it when you post!

Here I go, but since I don't have any way of giving anything else, would you like an avatar??


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 26, 2006, 01:49:39 AM
Quote from: "tcumom"
Tyler ~ thanks for the kind words ~ I still feel awkward posting, even after all these months.  Although I don't say too much, I'm always here, listening to my monkey friends!
I am glad you are posting more! And I hope I didn't offend you when I boasted about the Eagles beating Dallas today! LOL, It is just actually kinda shocking to all us people here from near Philly to see the Eagles come back so strong after such a lousy start this year!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 01:50:58 AM
I was reading about BOR & Geraldo discussing the Aruba situation.  I wish BOR would give Geraldo carte blanche to go to Aruba as an investigative reporter for his program and kick some butt big time.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 01:52:17 AM
I'm hoping that DeVries isn't done yet...............

DeVries from Holland, and Geraldo in Aruba is a good combo!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 26, 2006, 01:52:26 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "tcumom"
Tyler ~ thanks for the kind words ~ I still feel awkward posting, even after all these months.  Although I don't say too much, I'm always here, listening to my monkey friends!


tcumom? I love it when you post!

Here I go, but since I don't have any way of giving anything else, would you like an avatar??
She does make nice ones! Her and Klaasend! :) ... Goodnight Monkey freinds, Love you all and praying for all of you .


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 01:53:09 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "tcumom"
Tyler ~ thanks for the kind words ~ I still feel awkward posting, even after all these months.  Although I don't say too much, I'm always here, listening to my monkey friends!


tcumom? I love it when you post!

Here I go, but since I don't have any way of giving anything else, would you like an avatar??
She does make nice ones! Her and Klaasend! :) ... Goodnight Monkey freinds, Love you all and praying for all of you .


Nite, Elaine! WUB YOU!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 01:53:34 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "tcumom"
Tyler ~ thanks for the kind words ~ I still feel awkward posting, even after all these months.  Although I don't say too much, I'm always here, listening to my monkey friends!


tcumom? I love it when you post!

Here I go, but since I don't have any way of giving anything else, would you like an avatar??
She does make nice ones! Her and Klaasend! :) ... Goodnight Monkey freinds, Love you all and praying for all of you .


Thank you, Elaine.  I hope you have had a nice Christmas and really nice birthday and give your mom a big hug for all of us.  She has been through a lot, an awful lot and she feels like she has to apologize for her frustrations and injuries, God bless her.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 26, 2006, 01:55:05 AM
You all are too cute and funny!  :D
CBB ~ I had a little scottish terrier avatar that I lost ~ Klaas did find it to put on the tree, so I could ask her about it ..... I also had a TCU flag but that dissolved also....

Elaine ~ Born and raised in Big D, but haven't lived there in 30 years!  Still a Cowboys fan when they behave like a class act aka Tom Landry days (I'm old, I think!).......starting to get back in the groove with them if they don't act goofy or like studmuffins in the endzone.  ugh.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 01:57:14 AM
I need to get ready for bed, too.

tcumom, don't let me intimidate you. If you'd rather not have an avatar, that's perfectly ok.  :wink:

Goodnight dear friends. You are more special than you know! You've blessed me!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 01:57:36 AM
Quote from: "tcumom"
You all are too cute and funny!  :D
CBB ~ I had a little scottish terrier avatar that I lost ~ Klaas did find it to put on the tree, so I could ask her about it ..... I also had a TCU flag but that dissolved also....

Elaine ~ Born and raised in Big D, but haven't lived there in 30 years!  Still a Cowboys fan when they behave like a class act aka Tom Landry days (I'm old, I think!).......starting to get back in the groove with them if they don't act goofy or like studmuffins in the endzone.  ugh.


Another big Tom Landry fan here.  They don't make class like that anymore.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 01:58:44 AM
Quote from: "tcumom"
You all are too cute and funny!  :D
CBB ~ I had a little scottish terrier avatar that I lost ~ Klaas did find it to put on the tree, so I could ask her about it ..... I also had a TCU flag but that dissolved also....

Elaine ~ Born and raised in Big D, but haven't lived there in 30 years!  Still a Cowboys fan when they behave like a class act aka Tom Landry days (I'm old, I think!).......starting to get back in the groove with them if they don't act goofy or like studmuffins in the endzone.  ugh.


Which do you want, tcumom? I'll try to get it from the tree, or we can start fresh? Want me to see what I can find? Is there something you'd like?


Title: Re: Thanks
Post by: LilPuma on December 26, 2006, 01:58:53 AM
Quote from: "IBE"
The dog and can are rescues. The dog was on the TV news as up for adoption and how he visited nursing home. I called and they told me there were over 100 call and he'd been adopted.

About 6 mos. later, on Easter, I think, I went to the local place. On his cage it says, "dislikes cats". I asked what kind of dog it was (had one blue eye and a brown eye) Aust.  Shepard mix... -at a certain time of the moon, the eye turns brown--anyway I thought how could he not like cats for Aust. Shepard herd and there are cats on a farm.

I asked to see him; I was seated when he arrived and he took hold of my wrist with both paws and held on very tight. So that was it!

He is great, smart and likes to travel. The cat is named after a cookie and the dog after an emotion. They get along fine and "kiss" each other ie: lick each other where the other can't reach... like under the chin and on top of the head.

So glad you like these and that I got up enough confidence to share them.

Now going to find Cary Grant.


I loved the dog and cat pic.   :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 01:59:25 AM
Nite nite, CBB.  I think I am going to call it a day along with you and Elaine.  Big day today and hopefully I can go shopping tomorrow and pick up a bargain or two, nothing like shopping for a case of female depression.   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 02:01:08 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Nite nite, CBB.  I think I am going to call it a day along with you and Elaine.  Big day today and hopefully I can go shopping tomorrow and pick up a bargain or two, nothing like shopping for a case of female depression.   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


MAKE IT SPARKLE!!!!  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 26, 2006, 02:01:55 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Another big Tom Landry fan here.  They don't make class like that anymore.

I guess it's okay to say this....
We went to junior high and high school with his daughters.......he was just a fine man......unassuming, gentlemanly, always there for his kids, and never sought the bright lights.  Miss those days~Bob Lilly, Roger Staubach, Lee Roy Jordan .....makes me sad that our son will never see pro sports the way we did.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 02:02:39 AM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/tcu.jpg)

tcu....I found this flag. I can get rid of the numbers/letters at the bottom for you.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 26, 2006, 02:06:03 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Which do you want, tcumom? I'll try to get it from the tree, or we can start fresh? Want me to see what I can find? Is there something you'd like?

This is exciting, and I'm not kidding, either!  Here's a few things to think about:  art teacher, genealogy buff, Scottish terriers.....maybe something along any of those lines?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LilPuma on December 26, 2006, 02:06:25 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
You all are kinda making me think I'm better off staying single.


You've probably heard Rod Stewart's famous quote about marriage?  

"Next time I feel like getting married, I'm just going to find a woman I don't like and buy her a house."  


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 02:07:51 AM
Quote from: "tcumom"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Which do you want, tcumom? I'll try to get it from the tree, or we can start fresh? Want me to see what I can find? Is there something you'd like?

This is exciting, and I'm not kidding, either!  Here's a few things to think about:  art teacher, genealogy buff, Scottish terriers.....maybe something along any of those lines?


I could make him holding a Natalee poster, let me see what else I can find......then you can choose!

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/scoti.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LilPuma on December 26, 2006, 02:08:28 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Nite nite, CBB.  I think I am going to call it a day along with you and Elaine.  Big day today and hopefully I can go shopping tomorrow and pick up a bargain or two, nothing like shopping for a case of female depression.   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


The official term is "Retail Therapy".


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 02:08:43 AM
Quote from: "LilPuma"
Quote from: "Carnut"
You all are kinda making me think I'm better off staying single.


You've probably heard Rod Stewart's famous quote about marriage?  

"Next time I feel like getting married, I'm just going to find a woman I don't like and buy her a house."  


Don't leave me hanging!  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 26, 2006, 02:10:23 AM
CBB ~ that sounds good, and I'm already in love with the little guy holding the poster, especially if we can make it a poster of Natalee.

Boy, am I glad it's quiet in here tonight..... :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 02:12:35 AM
Been lurking this evening and now it's time for me to call it a night.  Here you go tcumom (if you want it :lol: )

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/tcumom.jpg)

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/tcumom.jpg

GOODNIGHT ALL - MERRY CHRISTMAS!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 02:15:33 AM
How about a monkey artist?

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/monkeyartist.jpg)

Your timing sucks, Klaas!  :lol:

If I can't mange it, I'll leave you a note. It will say: HELP!!!  :lol:

Night Klaas! Sleep well!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 26, 2006, 02:15:43 AM
Klaas ~ thank you ~ should have known you'd have a glass to the wall :wink:
CBB's going to see what she can find for me ~ maybe I'll have a whole new image for 2007!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 02:19:35 AM
OK, tcu...............let me see what I can do with the scoti. I'm not fast, so if I don't get back before you go to bed, look for my last post tonight, or a note to Klaas for help!  :lol:

We'll get you one, I promise!  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LilPuma on December 26, 2006, 02:19:50 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "sb"
All I can really say is... it is far easier to deal with other people's physical problems, than it is to deal with (and put up with) their emotional problems.

My family has deep, difficult, complicated emotional problems that are just compounded by their physical fallout from the recent accident. I really strive to rise above all that, but it's almost impossible to escape. I would almost rather be alone, EVEN AT CHRISTMAS, than have to deal with emotional cripples who baby one another and take out their frustrations on everyone else. And who manipulate and seek to control others for their own selfish, self-centered reasons.


sb, and Tyler,

God, no wonder you have brought us here together! Amen!

I'm going to sell the house this year................the house that was paid for in full and given to me in a divorce that my ex said was to protect our assets. He gave me everything. And I trusted...............

THEN I began to discover. Discover his porn addiction, his escort in Florida, his SECOND mortgage on the house he had given me, my $350,000 indebtness on joint accounts. I fell into a dark hole and emerged unwilling to let it stand, as he fell closer and closer to bankruptcy. He moved back in in exchange for paying the bills and I started my own company with the money my Mom left me. It's a scary feeling of risking stewardship of all that she intended for me.  We had worked together in his company and I tried to sustain both and have worked 16-18 hours a day, struggling to make it all work, while vacilating from hurt to homicidal tendancies toward him..................and came home to have his presence there too! I got off all the accounts I could, and tried to take comfort in the fact that at least the mortgage was being paid down,......
2 weeks ago, I pulled up my credit report. He had topped the credit line on the house AGAIN! The bank refuses to acknowledge my request made at the time to CLOSE the line, and no, I didn't follow up the conversation in writing.
He's going down, and I'm terrified of what the future holds. I do know who holds the future, and I'm hanging on!

My brother was an alcoholic, sb. I honestly believe my only living relative has a personality disorder. I know dysfunctional and it's an incredible emotional drain on those of us who don't particip[ate in the emotional dysfunction. We just hurt and try to clean up the wreckage.
I learned to seperate my interaction with them, and started interacting with what God would have me do in their presence. Honest. I've prayed so many times to take control of my heart, my mouth, my eyes, my hands and help me fulfill His purpose in relation to them. It removed them from the equation and allowed some of the emotional damage I risked, to be removed.

God love you both, {{{HUGS}}}


Maybe that's why I ended up here.  I won't go into lifelong stories, but dysfunctional family stuff is all too familiar.  Dr. Phil tells parents that they are their kids "soft place to fall".  I've never had that.  When I fell (got pushed real real hard) I found out why I never even leaned before.   :cry:  Anyhow, I can relate to family problems and not having that support system, or having a "support system" that makes things worse.  In spite of some great fun and friends I had on another board, I've met some very loving and caring people on two boards talkng about Natalee Holloway.   God bless her and her family.  They turned their tragedy into something that has made a difference in many lives and more good things will come of this.  In America, Aruba and hopefully many other places.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 26, 2006, 02:26:02 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
OK, tcu...............let me see what I can do with the scoti. I'm not fast, so if I don't get back before you go to bed, look for my last post tonight, or a note to Klaas for help!  :lol:

We'll get you one, I promise!  :wink:

I just love you!  This is a wonderful last Christmas present of 2006!   :D  :D  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LilPuma on December 26, 2006, 02:27:48 AM
Tyler, if the bank takes the house, could you buy it back?  They often sell foreclosures for less than market, don't they?  I don't know much about it, but if he loses the place, you might be able to get it back without having to pay his debts.  Do you have a lawyer and/or real estate friend that you can talk to and ask?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: IBE on December 26, 2006, 02:30:42 AM
Carnut get a pre-nup! But that's one of the reason I cocoon. I can hurt my self with dumb things I have done or do now, without any help! But it is lonely too.


Tylergal I was crying when reading about your mom's home. I went through something similar and in hindsight some was my fault and some was not.

I didn''t bail out when I should have and it affected my health and morale in a big way; added loosing another home here... just now starting to recover.

Someone will love the home as your mom and your family did.
CBB
tcumom
Elaine
Carnut
Isn't it interesting we were all online at the same time and all, in different varieties has happened to us?

LilPuma
the dog and cat say thank you, too.

Sorry, I couldn't post when the discussion was going on; was watching the movie about the pink sub. Need to find another comedy so won't fall into a funk.

Tylergal You are so kind. Think about your future, your health, and your finances first for now is the time to stockpile for retirement. When they say "limited income" they just don't know how "limited!!!! What Soc. Security gives, Medicare deductions take away.

Chins up!

I like to come here. It makes me feel better.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 02:43:23 AM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/scoticopy.jpg)


Title: Knots Landing
Post by: IBE on December 26, 2006, 02:44:17 AM
One of the reasons why the series "Knots Landing" was so popular and ran so long was that the story lines were so close to everyday people vs. say "Dallas".

Each one of us could write our own soap opera, but I am not sure they'd believe us

Again, Chins Up!


Title: CBB
Post by: IBE on December 26, 2006, 02:45:49 AM
CBB

Very nice!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 02:47:38 AM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/scoticopy-1.jpg)

This work, tcu?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 03:00:29 AM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/Nataleetrasparentcopy.jpg)

Now, I'm playing,  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 03:08:15 AM
OK, Klaas...............you're on for any improvements!  :wink:

I'd like to make the "FIND NATALEE" a little more readable...........

I'm going to bed, so I'll check tomorrow and hopefully, see the avatar with any Klaas improvements!  :wink:

Night!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 26, 2006, 04:03:29 AM
My dear monkey friends~ I am so glad that we have this forum. Natalee's spirit is alive here.

SB, Tyler, CBB and everyone who is troubled~ We are friends, and the support we receive from one another is invaluable. It has certainly been a blessing for me over the past week. I think that I may have lost my mind if I had not had you all.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 26, 2006, 05:43:55 AM
Ok, here's my little confession. So far my best Christmas Present was to be around to celebrate another Christmas.

Guess I'm just lucky, I have never been crossed or letdown by any family member, ex, inlaw or friend that I'm aware of. I have been blessed with wonderful family, though may are now gone, inlaws and lifelong friendships. I have also been blessed with way more friends than I have any right to deserve.

Did notice on the Drama Queen thread in the Lounge that Justin's posted a 'values' profile analysis quiz and that I tested quite high in 'Loyalty'.
Was a little surprised at that result but probably shouldn't have been because throughout my life that probably is the one thing I value most in giving and receiving. Heck, I've even kept the same cars most of my life because of my 'loyalty' to them.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BIGORANGECRUSH on December 26, 2006, 08:46:23 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/scoticopy-1.jpg)

This work, tcu?


You do great work Borg :!: BOC lurking!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 09:16:14 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Ok, here's my little confession. So far my best Christmas Present was to be around to celebrate another Christmas.

Guess I'm just lucky, I have never been crossed or letdown by any family member, ex, inlaw or friend that I'm aware of. I have been blessed with wonderful family, though may are now gone, inlaws and lifelong friendships. I have also been blessed with way more friends than I have any right to deserve.

Did notice on the Drama Queen thread in the Lounge that Justin's posted a 'values' profile analysis quiz and that I tested quite high in 'Loyalty'.
Was a little surprised at that result but probably shouldn't have been because throughout my life that probably is the one thing I value most in giving and receiving. Heck, I've even kept the same cars most of my life because of my 'loyalty' to them.


And "Loyalty" impresses me enough to let the "Drama Queen" remark go!  :lol:  :wink:
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Carnut!

Thanks, BOC! Klaas is a good teacher!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 09:29:10 AM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/scoti.gif)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/scoti.gif

Oops! Almost forgot the link!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 26, 2006, 09:29:29 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/scoticopy.jpg)

CBB ~ I just love this little guy, and the Natalee poster is perfect!  I and really like the *find Natalee* ......

You (and Klaas) are wonder women with these avatars . . . of course, saying that makes me think of the former WW who hung around here  :lol: .


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 09:34:06 AM
Quote from: "tcumom"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/scoticopy.jpg)

CBB ~ I just love this little guy, and the Natalee poster is perfect!  I and really like the *find Natalee* ......

You (and Klaas) are wonder women with these avatars . . . of course, saying that makes me think of the former WW who hung around here  :lol: .


Glad you like it tcu! You can ask Klaas if she can improve it a bit. She's remarkable! Do you know how to apply it as an avatar?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 26, 2006, 09:47:29 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"

Glad you like it tcu! You can ask Klaas if she can improve it a bit. She's remarkable! Do you know how to apply it as an avatar?

I was trying to show off and post with the little guy popping up ~ I printed off the instructions you left in the lounge  :wink:
Anyway, when I went to the 3rd box for avatars, no list appeared.
I had clicked on the link to photobucket earlier and just right clicked and copied ~ I didn't have a choice to click COPY SHORTCUT.  :?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 26, 2006, 09:58:56 AM
When I right click and get the drop down list (I finally figured that out), the only words that aren't grey are delete and select all.  This is embarrassing, and I hope people sleep late so I don't keeping hogging the posting area  :oops:  :oops:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 26, 2006, 10:02:02 AM
TCUMom,
Are you right clicking on the shortcut or the actual photo of the avatar?

You should get a copy or copy shortcut on just the link.  That is the one you want to click.

Try moving your cursor off the link and re-right clicking and see if the menu won't offer you that.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 26, 2006, 10:04:25 AM
You could also try to highlight the link and then right click and copy it.  That might work.   :wink:

We will get that avatar in there one way or another!!   :D

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 26, 2006, 10:08:03 AM
CBB and Anna ~ Oh my!  I'm real now!  Thanks y'all so much for helping me and holding my hand ~ this is so exciting ~
Hey ~ I think we need to do New Year's avatars.....now that I can do this!
 :D  :D  :D  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LilPuma on December 26, 2006, 10:16:52 AM
It's a beauty, tcumom!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 26, 2006, 10:23:12 AM
Quote from: "LilPuma"
It's a beauty, tcumom!

Thank you, Lil ~ I've posted more in the past 12 hours than in the last 18 months ....... I'm just glad it was kind of quiet last night.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 26, 2006, 10:35:58 AM
TCUMom,
Looking Good!

And the more who post, the better!  Otherwise, we would get tired of ourselves in a hurry!  Please don't feel shy but we all do at first.

You know I LOVE Scotties and have a pair myself.

I am sure Borg will now be thinking along the lines of New Years festivities for the cage, too.  She seems a natural at this!   :wink:

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 26, 2006, 10:42:08 AM
TCU Mom,
Remember you can put something in your signature line as well, just use the one with the IMG on each end for that or type it into that space in your profile if text message.  Must be sort of small like an avatar, however, if a pix or won't fit.

 :D

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LilPuma on December 26, 2006, 10:49:28 AM
Because we were talking about little old ladies and pennies and such the other day, I thought I'd copy this here, from http://findjenniferkesse.com


We would like to ask all of you who read this message to reach out this Holiday season as well as all year long to commit RANDOM ACTS OF KINDNESS. Having done this ourselves here and there over the course of our lives it will amaze you how it can change not only yourselves but the people who you help.  It usually is a totally spur of the moment gesture to a person you see who needs help in some way at a particularly difficult time in their life.  As we are experiencing, it will come back to you ten fold and most likely when you need it the most. You can make a difference!


Lastly, please continue to visit this website and pass it on to all the people you know and ask them to read about Jennifer, how they can help and pass on the website address to all they know too.  


Title: Peter DeVries
Post by: LilPuma on December 26, 2006, 10:57:35 AM
If anyone hears when Peter DeVries' next installment on the Holloway case is going to be aired, please let us know.  I remember reading that he was going to do a followup show.  Of all the (non-Aruban LE) people investigating this, I think he has the best chance of getting something that the others have missed or not been able to obtain, since he has sources and credibility within the Dutch territories.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 12:18:37 PM
I so appreciate all the Monkeys' understanding and patience.  I always feel for each one who is in need and try to remember to pray for 'The Monkeys' each night.

Li'l Puma, my grandaddy told me about the ten-fold as a child and he showed me how it worked.  One day as we were walking to his grocery store, a little country store, we encountered a very old woman and a child walking.  The child was leading the lady who was obviously blind, having hardly any pupils at all.  They were hungry and told us they were.  My grandaddy gave them $25.00.  That was a lot of money to give a stranger back in the early 1950s.  I thought they probably could eat for a couple dollars, two hamburgers each  milkshakes back then, with change to spare.  

He was telling me how it would come back to him ten-fold.  I think the Lord wanted me to see that as a small child.  While walking, he saw something very shiny, a knife.  It was very nice: a jeweled handle and  made of what I now believe to be silver or platinum, something one might see in the Middle East.  He picked it up and took it to his store, posted a sign about a knife he had found and wanted to know if anyone had lost it.  No one was able to identify it and claim it for more than a year.  He sold it for $250.  He told me that was his ten-fold.  Whomever owned it obviously did not live in our area.  It was like manna.[/img]


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 26, 2006, 12:22:06 PM
O/T - My dog Angelina loves company and she was very excited that my friend and her hubby came over for dinner because that meant more attention for her.  After dinner my friend’s hubby started to talk to Angelina and he asked her to go get her toy.  She knows what you mean when you ask her that and she searches around for it.  Last night she decided to take a short cut and she ran over to the Christmas tree and she took the goofy ornament off and gave it to him. :lol:   I think Angelina had been eyeing that ornament since the day before. :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 12:41:11 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
TCUMom,
Looking Good!

And the more who post, the better!  Otherwise, we would get tired of ourselves in a hurry!  Please don't feel shy but we all do at first.

You know I LOVE Scotties and have a pair myself.

I am sure Borg will now be thinking along the lines of New Years festivities for the cage, too.  She seems a natural at this!   :wink:

.


In the  monkey lounge, under "New Year's Avatars Here". I've posted some that are already resized and instructions are there. Anna, you're better at finding good ones and instructions than I am! Thank you for helping tcu!

Looking good, tcu!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 26, 2006, 12:41:49 PM
Poor Milo is still waiting for his Christmas gift (cat nip toy) and dinner (canned food)!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 12:45:15 PM
Quote from: "San"
O/T - My dog Angelina loves company and she was very excited that my friend and her hubby came over for dinner because that meant more attention for her.  After dinner my friend’s hubby started to talk to Angelina and he asked her to go get her toy.  She knows what you mean when you ask her that and she searches around for it.  Last night she decided to take a short cut and she ran over to the Christmas tree and she took the goofy ornament off and gave it to him. :lol:   I think Angelina had been eyeing that ornament since the day before. :wink:


I think Angelina is a smart baby.  She made friends with your friend and was giving him the best ornament off the tree.  She was repaying him for his kindness.  Aren't they just like kids, except with fur.  And the best part is they don't pack up and run off to college, get married and never come back to live at home again after spending all your money on an education.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 12:46:02 PM
Justinmama, it will be Christmas whenever the gift arrives, no matter when it is.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 12:49:47 PM
Totally OT, but little news so I thought I would share this with any pet owners who allow their pets outside.  As all of you know, I have big flower beds with roses and always like groundcover with them.  A couple years or so ago, I purchased Nepeta catmint, which has little blue flowers that look great with roses.  My cats absolutely adore it.  They just roll around and chew, and roll around and love just lying in it, fall asleep, wake up and chew on it, and then roll around and go back to sleep.  It is so cute. If you have a cat that gets to go outside even under supervision, plant some of this.  The cats love it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 01:02:43 PM
Hi all!  I'm getting ready to take this PC apart so I can add my new RAM chip.  Hopefully I won't mess up things too much, lol.

I'll be lurking from my laptop.  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Cat on December 26, 2006, 01:11:38 PM
I do have a real question of curiousity,how far are the painted rocks from the vds place?CBB,thank you for the pictures of the turkeys.You can redemn your house,often for 1 year,after a foreclosure.Cat


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 26, 2006, 01:18:01 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "San"
O/T - My dog Angelina loves company and she was very excited that my friend and her hubby came over for dinner because that meant more attention for her.  After dinner my friend’s hubby started to talk to Angelina and he asked her to go get her toy.  She knows what you mean when you ask her that and she searches around for it.  Last night she decided to take a short cut and she ran over to the Christmas tree and she took the goofy ornament off and gave it to him. :lol:   I think Angelina had been eyeing that ornament since the day before. :wink:


I think Angelina is a smart baby.  She made friends with your friend and was giving him the best ornament off the tree.  She was repaying him for his kindness.  Aren't they just like kids, except with fur.  And the best part is they don't pack up and run off to college, get married and never come back to live at home again after spending all your money on an education.

 :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 26, 2006, 01:30:45 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
[I think Angelina is a smart baby.  She made friends with your friend and was giving him the best ornament off the tree.  She was repaying him for his kindness.  Aren't they just like kids, except with fur.  And the best part is they don't pack up and run off to college, get married and never come back to live at home again after spending all your money on an education.


And having you iron a few thousand shirts!  

Tyler, I didn't know you had met my kids!   :shock:

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 26, 2006, 01:48:46 PM
I found a "Happy New Year" BT avatar and stole it off the internet.  8)

However, I don't know how to get rid of that watermark thingy on it that is supposed to keep me from stealing it.  :roll:

If anyone has any suggestions, would you please let me know?  :lol:

Thanks!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 02:01:39 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
I found a "Happy New Year" BT avatar and stole it off the internet.  8)

However, I don't know how to get rid of that watermark thingy on it that is supposed to keep me from stealing it.  :roll:

If anyone has any suggestions, would you please let me know?  :lol:

Thanks!


I think that watermarkie thingie is there for the very reason you stated, "stealing..."  It prevents it.  LOLOLOL.  I do that to photographs that I use at lectures I do, in case once they have been shown around the room, one does not come back to me. :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 26, 2006, 02:05:20 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
I found a "Happy New Year" BT avatar and stole it off the internet.  8)

However, I don't know how to get rid of that watermark thingy on it that is supposed to keep me from stealing it.  :roll:

If anyone has any suggestions, would you please let me know?  :lol:

Thanks!


I think that watermarkie thingie is there for the very reason you stated, "stealing..."  It prevents it.  LOLOLOL.  I do that to photographs that I use at lectures I do, in case once they have been shown around the room, one does not come back to me. :wink:


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I'm just sure some smart monkey who is good at graphic things can get rid of that pesky watermark for me. I figure they only work against people like me who don't know much.  :P


Title: Monkey Justice
Post by: LilPuma on December 26, 2006, 02:17:56 PM
Monkeys and Fairness
From September 17, 2003 issue of National Geographic  

If you expect equal pay for equal work, you're not the only species to have a sense of fair play. Blame evolution.

Researchers studying brown capuchin monkeys (Cebus apella) have found that the highly social, cooperative species native to South America show a sense of fairness, the first time such behavior has been documented in a species other than humans.

The question of whether human aversion to unfair treatment—now shown by other primates—is an evolved behavior or the result of the cultural influence of large social institutions like religion, governments, and schools, in the case of humans, has intrigued scientists in recent years.

The new finding suggests evolution may have something to do with it. It also highlights questions about the economic and evolutionary nature of cooperation and its relationship to a species' sense of fairness, while adding yet another chapter to our understanding of primates.

"It looks like this behavior is evolved … it is not simply a cultural construct. There's some good evolutionary reason why we don't like being treated unfairly," said Sarah Brosnan, lead author of the study to be published in tomorrow's issue of the science journal Nature.

Brosnan, a biology Ph. D. candidate schooled in zoology and psychology at the Yerkes National Primate Research Center and Living Links Center at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia, said her research was inspired, in part, by studies into human cooperation conducted by Swiss economist Ernst Fehr, who found that people inherently reject unfairness.

http://www.primates.com/monkeys/fairness.html

You can go to the link if you want to read about the cucumber throwing and such that resulted from unfair treatment.   :wink:

Did Red and Tom already know this?   :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LilPuma on December 26, 2006, 02:28:08 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
I found a "Happy New Year" BT avatar and stole it off the internet.  8)

However, I don't know how to get rid of that watermark thingy on it that is supposed to keep me from stealing it.  :roll:

If anyone has any suggestions, would you please let me know?  :lol:

Thanks!


If the watermark is overlayed or underlayed on the pic, I'm clueless.  I did have to crop the picture below to delete the icon of the site I found it on.  However, the site said the pics cannot be used for commercial purposes, so I'm legal just using it here.  

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k304/LilPuma04/monkeyinsnow.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 26, 2006, 02:32:48 PM
Quote from: "LilPuma"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
I found a "Happy New Year" BT avatar and stole it off the internet.  8)

However, I don't know how to get rid of that watermark thingy on it that is supposed to keep me from stealing it.  :roll:

If anyone has any suggestions, would you please let me know?  :lol:

Thanks!


If the watermark is overlayed or underlayed on the pic, I'm clueless.  I did have to crop the picture below to delete the icon of the site I found it on.  However, the site said the pics cannot be used for commercial purposes, so I'm legal just using it here.  

(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k304/LilPuma04/monkeyinsnow.jpg)


That one is cutie pie, too!  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on December 26, 2006, 02:40:27 PM
Is it too early for this avatar?  Just thought it went with my regular one... :lol:  :lol:

BT, the pics from Magic95 that Klaas & others post always have that water mark across them....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LilPuma on December 26, 2006, 02:44:36 PM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Is it too early for this avatar?  Just thought it went with my regular one... :lol:  :lol:

BT, the pics from Magic95 that Klaas & others post always have that water mark across them....


(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/2NJSons_Mom/2007toilroll.gif)

 :lol:   :lol:  :lol:
My cat only pulled the roll through the apartment once back when she was still an adolescent.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 02:47:34 PM
Testing.........


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 02:50:28 PM
THAT's a little big!  

I love it 2nj!

I love seeing what folks have found!

There's some to choose from in the Monkey Lounge if you want to browse. It's the topic that has a typo that I can't edit! It says; New Year AVAVTARs Here!  :lol:

I gotta go resize this.............


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 26, 2006, 02:57:49 PM
BT~ Give me the link where you found it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 26, 2006, 03:07:10 PM
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d79/justinsmama/NewYearBT.jpg)

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d79/justinsmama/NewYearBT.jpg

If you want it like this, BT, go for it. I will delte the day after New Year's from my photobucket (or today if you save it to your account).


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 03:13:46 PM
I don't have time to do the signature right now, but:::::

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/hic.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Cat on December 26, 2006, 03:30:50 PM
You have a great idea for New Years,CBB.I also like the turkeys you showed,they are so good after you past the spurs.Carnut,I have discovered you I have several things in common.Feel lucky you have not be betrayed by those you trust.I still am trying to guage the distence and accesabilty of going from the vds cesspool to the painted rocks.Have they ever triangulated where the cell phone calls came from.so many questions,I still have.Cat  Sarcasm,my job and i do it well


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: "Cat"
You have a great idea for New Years,CBB.I also like the turkeys you showed,they are so good after you past the spurs.Carnut,I have discovered you I have several things in common.Feel lucky you have not be betrayed by those you trust.I still am trying to guage the distence and accesabilty of going from the vds cesspool to the painted rocks.Have they ever triangulated where the cell phone calls came from.so many questions,I still have.Cat  Sarcasm,my job and i do it well


Cat - travel time wise I believe it would be approx a 15 min drive.  I'll find a map for you, hold on

This is an old map but it will give you an idea.  The Lighthouse area and the rocks are up at the top of the map near Arashi:

(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h291/SunFreak2/Mapofbeachroutes.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: friend of monkeys on December 26, 2006, 04:22:07 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Hi all!  I'm getting ready to take this PC apart so I can add my new RAM chip.  Hopefully I won't mess up things too much, lol.

I'll be lurking from my laptop.  :wink:



 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

glad u got such a great gift Klass!

I know u all must have seen Geraldo and Bill O'Reilly last nite.

I had no idea the search warrant was changed on the spot.

Made me think back to her dying there....being gang raped and gagged w/ duct tape...when they thought she was dying they took off the tape and she threw up on Jorans infamous shoes....

From there...it was in Paulus and Vanderstratted who led the cover up.

Just my thoughts after last nite.

Sorry to interrupt any holiday Cheer.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: friend of monkeys on December 26, 2006, 04:29:00 PM
see u monkeys later...

TY for the MAP


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 26, 2006, 04:37:13 PM
Yes, Friend of Monkeys,

That is certainly the strangest execution of a search warrant I have
ever heard of in my life!  I cannot imagine a judge changing his
warrant at the scene!

Strange thing was we were told it was because the younger brothers would have been asleep inside the house but not in the main portion, only in the smaller sleeping quarters.

So why was it so important to Paulus that the house not be searched, so much so he had his judge buddy on the actual premises to prevent it.  Must have really had something to hide!

 :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 04:41:41 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
Yes, Friend of Monkeys,

That is certainly the strangest execution of a search warrant I have
ever heard of in my life!  I cannot imagine a judge changing his
warrant at the scene!

Strange thing was we were told it was because the younger brothers would have been asleep inside the house but not in the main portion, only in the smaller sleeping quarters.

So why was it so important to Paulus that the house not be searched, so much so he had his judge buddy on the actual premises to prevent it.  Must have really had something to hide!

 :shock:


For sure, Anna, as we both know, this is a cover-up much bigger than the Vandersnots.  It has to be big for them to assure that Joe M. goes to prison for IRS violations.  Tacopino and his rug rats are pulling an FBI type fraud on US citizens regards the tax situation.  This is nothing more than Joe Tacopino having his goons investigate Joe and see what they can find on him.  I suspect if there was an investigation where it should be we would see old Joe T being locked in solitary.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 04:43:25 PM
Anna, all I can figure is there is such a huge trafficking business in Aruba that involves jewels, gold, drugs and humans that it had to be covered up and it probably involves some of our TV personalities that we see screaming that we do not understand their system and Joran is innocent.  I am beginning to think we need a shadow government to investigate Aruba and Tacopino.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 04:53:31 PM
I'm cracking myself up here!!!!

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/disco-room.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: friend of monkeys on December 26, 2006, 04:53:57 PM
It was a crime they thought they could cover up quicly.....esp after arresting the guards..

there are so many people who had a small pat to play in this .

I was just glad to see it w/ Bill and Geraldo last night...

 :arrow: esp them both saying theyd like to go investigate there but knew they would probably be arrested at the airport in Aruba :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 26, 2006, 04:58:59 PM
Quote from: "justinsmama"
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d79/justinsmama/NewYearBT.jpg)

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d79/justinsmama/NewYearBT.jpg

If you want it like this, BT, go for it. I will delte the day after New Year's from my photobucket (or today if you save it to your account).


Justins - that's perfect. Thank you a million times! I have put it in my photobucket account, so you can go ahead and delete it from yours if you want to. Thanks again!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 05:02:15 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I'm cracking myself up here!!!!

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/disco-room.gif)


OMG, lololol  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 05:03:56 PM
I resized it! Give me a sec!!!!! SORRY!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 05:08:19 PM
Klaas! Help me???? PLEASE?  :oops:  :oops:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 05:18:07 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Klaas! Help me???? PLEASE?  :oops:  :oops:

With what?  What's wrong?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 05:26:03 PM
I got it! Whew! It was HUGE! Even as an avatar that I had resized, and I didn't have the wits about me to just delete it!  :lol: I just went into PANIC MODE!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 05:26:56 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I got it! Whew! It was HUGE! Even as an avatar that I had resized, and I didn't have the wits about me to just delete it!  :lol: I just went into PANIC MODE!


You are too funny!  I see you are having fun with Image Ready, lol  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 05:30:15 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I got it! Whew! It was HUGE! Even as an avatar that I had resized, and I didn't have the wits about me to just delete it!  :lol: I just went into PANIC MODE!


You are too funny!  I see you are having fun with Image Ready, lol  :lol:


I'm just soooooo relieved that everything isn't still black and blue! Marilyn's gonna be before New Year's is over though with those sharp turns!  :lol:

Thanks Klaas! You've always got my back!  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 05:31:42 PM
OMG!!! ROFL!!!!

She Looks Like HERMAN MUNSTER!  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 26, 2006, 05:33:49 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
OMG!!! ROFL!!!!

She Looks Like HERMAN MUNSTER!  :lol:  :lol:


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 05:33:55 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
OMG!!! ROFL!!!!

She Looks Like HERMAN MUNSTER!  :lol:  :lol:

Nope, but she kindof looks like she's sleep walking, LOLOL  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 05:38:10 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
OMG!!! ROFL!!!!

She Looks Like HERMAN MUNSTER!  :lol:  :lol:

Nope, but she kindof looks like she's sleep walking, LOLOL  :lol:


Good! That's my plan for entering into the New Year!  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 05:40:26 PM
I could erase an arm every now and then, but then she'd just be a dancing amputee...................


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 05:40:54 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I could erase an arm every now and then, but then she'd just be a dancing amputee...................

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 05:41:31 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I could erase an arm every now and then, but then she'd just be a dancing amputee...................


And that's NOT my plan for the New Year...................


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 05:44:00 PM
Need to go do some dishes, brb


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 26, 2006, 05:45:40 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I could erase an arm every now and then, but then she'd just be a dancing amputee...................


And that's NOT my plan for the New Year...................


Maybe you need to just make her spin around.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 05:47:57 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I could erase an arm every now and then, but then she'd just be a dancing amputee...................


And that's NOT my plan for the New Year...................


Maybe you need to just make her spin around.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

You know NOT what you ask!!!!  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 05:48:57 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I could erase an arm every now and then, but then she'd just be a dancing amputee...................
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 05:51:26 PM
FOM, short of arresting investigative journalists, Aruba placed the costs of satellites up so high, such an exorbitant rate, that not even the major networks found it feasiable to pay those costs.  This is what the old USSR did to groceries to starve their people that were not eligible for the mental institutions.  I think they are taking a page from Chavez, Fidel and the other dictators' playbooks, to repress the population so that no one will talk about what is going on.  That must be the Devil's Rock there.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 26, 2006, 05:56:18 PM
You know how we were discussing the fact that some 3rd world countries were progressive as far as cell phones because the poor residents stole the copper wire used for land lines?

Well, I'm watching the local news and there was a story about people here in my hometown doing the same thing. :shock:

Aren't rednecks great?  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 26, 2006, 06:15:13 PM
BT,
Let me assure you that this doesn't only happen in your town but many places.  Also copper plumbing lines are sometimes stolen from empty houses.
It is in no way peculiar to any group of people.   :wink:  

One of the strangest thiefts I ever heard of and one that almost seems more trouble than it could possibly be was the theft of 58 concrete blocks and 23 pigs.  Now that took some work I am sure.

But I think wires and plumbing lines have more to do with the current value of copper, the recycle value of the metal.  Always somebody around who will steal it, it seems.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 06:15:48 PM
Need to run out real quick, brb


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: mishy on December 26, 2006, 06:30:39 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I'm cracking myself up here!!!!

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/disco-room.gif)


Wow, that's incredeible CBB!! How'd you do that???


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Cat on December 26, 2006, 06:35:22 PM
you have been a great help.I still am confused though,are the painted rocks in the area of the Fisherman's huts?Do you think her fataly injured body was taken from the rocks to the vds home?I am trying to understANd.Do you know where the cell phone calls were made from?I am trying to reconnect the dots.Logic dictates that I take joran as guilty and work back,so I am.Happy New Year.Captain Picard sends his regards to CBB.Cat


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 06:53:43 PM
Tylergal  :lol:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/TylerNY2007.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 06:55:02 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Tylergal  :lol:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/TylerNY2007.gif)


I'll keep working on it, it came out a little funky.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 06:57:15 PM
Quote from: "Cat"
you have been a great help.I still am confused though,are the painted rocks in the area of the Fisherman's huts?Do you think her fataly injured body was taken from the rocks to the vds home?I am trying to understANd.Do you know where the cell phone calls were made from?I am trying to reconnect the dots.Logic dictates that I take joran as guilty and work back,so I am.Happy New Year.Captain Picard sends his regards to CBB.Cat

No, the painted rocks are near the Lighthouse.  The Fisherman's Huts are near the Marriott Hotel.  Looking at the map I posted there is a notation on the map "Joran and Natalee".  That is noting the location between the Marriott Hotel and the Fisherman's Huts.  Not sure on the cell phone location as it seems it was hard to pinpoint which exact tower it came from if I recall correctly.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LilPuma on December 26, 2006, 06:57:56 PM
Quote from: "Cat"
you have been a great help.I still am confused though,are the painted rocks in the area of the Fisherman's huts?Do you think her fataly injured body was taken from the rocks to the vds home?I am trying to understANd.Do you know where the cell phone calls were made from?I am trying to reconnect the dots.Logic dictates that I take joran as guilty and work back,so I am.Happy New Year.Captain Picard sends his regards to CBB.Cat


I went over to the Important Case Documents thread and looked at maps and such.  Maybe this will help.  
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/klaasend/MapEvidence7.jpg)

Some of these Monkeys know this stuff like the back of their hands.  Unlike you and me.  The Important Case Documents thread is a good place to look for info though.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 07:08:01 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I could erase an arm every now and then, but then she'd just be a dancing amputee...................


And that's NOT my plan for the New Year...................


Maybe you need to just make her spin around.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

You know NOT what you ask!!!!  :lol:  :lol:


OOhhhhhh  Poor CBB ....you know when you stub your toe or something, and maybe hop around 'cause it hurts? I think CBB broke her wrist, and see how she is running back and forth with it just hanging like that?  Poor CBB.....

Forget it! Ignore me....I'm just jealous of all you pretty girls!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Florida on December 26, 2006, 07:11:12 PM
For Cat:

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/NYSusan/Map-beach-house-aruba-2.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 26, 2006, 07:16:44 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"

OOhhhhhh  Poor CBB ....you know when you stub your toe or something, and maybe hop around 'cause it hurts? I think CBB broke her wrist, and see how she is running back and forth with it just hanging like that?  Poor CBB.....

Forget it! Ignore me....I'm just jealous of all you pretty girls!


Oh BB - how could you not think you're a pretty girl when you have such a beautiful hair style?  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 07:21:50 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I could erase an arm every now and then, but then she'd just be a dancing amputee...................


And that's NOT my plan for the New Year...................


Maybe you need to just make her spin around.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Your avatar is cute but I hardly knew ye.  I love your little BT doggie.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 07:22:13 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"

OOhhhhhh  Poor CBB ....you know when you stub your toe or something, and maybe hop around 'cause it hurts? I think CBB broke her wrist, and see how she is running back and forth with it just hanging like that?  Poor CBB.....

Forget it! Ignore me....I'm just jealous of all you pretty girls!


Oh BB - how could you not think you're a pretty girl when you have such a beautiful hair style?  :wink:


Of course! How right you are BT .


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 07:23:14 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"

OOhhhhhh  Poor CBB ....you know when you stub your toe or something, and maybe hop around 'cause it hurts? I think CBB broke her wrist, and see how she is running back and forth with it just hanging like that?  Poor CBB.....

Forget it! Ignore me....I'm just jealous of all you pretty girls!


Oh BB - how could you not think you're a pretty girl when you have such a beautiful hair style?  :wink:


Is your little dog a boxer?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 07:23:27 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
You know how we were discussing the fact that some 3rd world countries were progressive as far as cell phones because the poor residents stole the copper wire used for land lines?

Well, I'm watching the local news and there was a story about people here in my hometown doing the same thing. :shock:

Aren't rednecks great?  :lol:


You would be surprised who is stealing the wire and it is not necessarily red necks, but organizations who take them.  This has been going on for years, and I can recall when some people in my area went to prison in the mid 1950s for stealing copper wire from utility companies to re-sell.  It takes a lot of copper wire to make it worthwhile so there are big people at the bottom of this copper-wire thievery.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 07:23:33 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I could erase an arm every now and then, but then she'd just be a dancing amputee...................


And that's NOT my plan for the New Year...................


Maybe you need to just make her spin around.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

You know NOT what you ask!!!!  :lol:  :lol:


OOhhhhhh  Poor CBB ....you know when you stub your toe or something, and maybe hop around 'cause it hurts? I think CBB broke her wrist, and see how she is running back and forth with it just hanging like that?  Poor CBB.....

Forget it! Ignore me....I'm just jealous of all you pretty girls!


smartass  :lol:  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 07:25:15 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Tylergal  :lol:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/TylerNY2007.gif)


I'll keep working on it, it came out a little funky.


OKay, Klaas, I forgot how I posted my original one so give me a hand.  Do I copy the "IMG" part or just the http?  And which line do I put it on?  See, I have that CRS disease.   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 07:25:53 PM
HEHEHEHE


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 26, 2006, 07:26:01 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"

OOhhhhhh  Poor CBB ....you know when you stub your toe or something, and maybe hop around 'cause it hurts? I think CBB broke her wrist, and see how she is running back and forth with it just hanging like that?  Poor CBB.....

Forget it! Ignore me....I'm just jealous of all you pretty girls!


Oh BB - how could you not think you're a pretty girl when you have such a beautiful hair style?  :wink:


Is your little dog a boxer?


It's another Boston Terrier - or as we refer to them at our house - a Boston Terrorist.  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 07:27:11 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Tylergal  :lol:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/TylerNY2007.gif)


I'll keep working on it, it came out a little funky.


OKay, Klaas, I forgot how I posted my original one so give me a hand.  Do I copy the "IMG" part or just the http?  And which line do I put it on?  See, I have that CRS disease.   :lol:


That's beautiful, Tyler!!!!

Don't copy the IMG part. Put it in the third box in avatar panel.  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 26, 2006, 07:27:59 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I could erase an arm every now and then, but then she'd just be a dancing amputee...................


And that's NOT my plan for the New Year...................


Maybe you need to just make her spin around.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Your avatar is cute but I hardly knew ye.  I love your little BT doggie.


TY Tyler.  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 07:28:12 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Tylergal  :lol:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/TylerNY2007.gif)


I'll keep working on it, it came out a little funky.


OKay, Klaas, I forgot how I posted my original one so give me a hand.  Do I copy the "IMG" part or just the http?  And which line do I put it on?  See, I have that CRS disease.   :lol:


You just right mouse click on it and copy the url without IMG tags.  Then paste into the third option in your profile for avatars.   :wink:  Just the http.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 07:28:46 PM
Quote
It's another Boston Terrier - or as we refer to them at our house - a Boston Terrorist.


I know what you mean. :wink:  Little dog that thinks it's a big one? I have a Pembroke Welsh Corgi, she runs the house here.[/quote]


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 07:30:53 PM
Thank you, Klaas & CBB.  You avatar gals are the best!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 07:31:16 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote
It's another Boston Terrier - or as we refer to them at our house - a Boston Terrorist.


I know what you mean. :wink:  Little dog that thinks it's a big one? I have a Pembroke Welsh Corgi, she runs the house here.
[/quote]

Do YOU!? I have a Pembroke that lives at the lake with a friend! He's so smart and so stubborn! Name's Rudy!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 07:32:03 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Thank you, Klaas & CBB.  You avatar gals are the best!

The pixles are still a little funky in the flower.  I'll see if I can fix it later tonight.  Need to fix dinner right now.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 07:32:33 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Thank you, Klaas & CBB.  You avatar gals are the best!


I didn't do anything, but your welcome. You look all festive, Tyler! Happy New Year!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 07:32:37 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote
It's another Boston Terrier - or as we refer to them at our house - a Boston Terrorist.


I know what you mean. :wink:  Little dog that thinks it's a big one? I have a Pembroke Welsh Corgi, she runs the house here.


Do YOU!? I have a Pembroke that lives at the lake with a friend! He's so smart and so stubborn! Name's Rudy![/quote]

He is so bad you had to send him to a foster home?  :wink:  :lol:
My pups name is Marley.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 26, 2006, 07:33:57 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote
It's another Boston Terrier - or as we refer to them at our house - a Boston Terrorist.


I know what you mean. :wink:  Little dog that thinks it's a big one? I have a Pembroke Welsh Corgi, she runs the house here.


Do YOU!? I have a Pembroke that lives at the lake with a friend! He's so smart and so stubborn! Name's Rudy!


He is so bad you had to send him to a foster home?  :wink:  :lol:
My pups name is Marley.[/quote]

Corgis are adorable! Is yours the kind the Queen has or does she have Cardigans?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 26, 2006, 07:34:20 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Thank you, Klaas & CBB.  You avatar gals are the best!

The pixles are still a little funky in the flower.  I'll see if I can fix it later tonight.  Need to fix dinner right now.


LOL, Klaas.  When we were looking at Bathroom tiles and surfaces, we would go into a store and look at some of the "fake granites," etc., and DH would say, "look, I like that one."  I would say, "too many pixels."  Our grandson went with us several times and finally he got where he would walk in and start looking and say, "pixels, pixels, pixels, they all got pixels."  That is the reason we ended up with more granite than I want to think about paying for.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 07:35:28 PM
This isn't my corgi, but I get a chuckle out of this pic whenever i see it.

http://www.thingsthatmakeyougoaahh.com/images/193-corgi.jpg


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 07:37:48 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote
It's another Boston Terrier - or as we refer to them at our house - a Boston Terrorist.


I know what you mean. :wink:  Little dog that thinks it's a big one? I have a Pembroke Welsh Corgi, she runs the house here.


Do YOU!? I have a Pembroke that lives at the lake with a friend! He's so smart and so stubborn! Name's Rudy!


He is so bad you had to send him to a foster home?  :wink:  :lol:
My pups name is Marley.


Corgis are adorable! Is yours the kind the Queen has or does she have Cardigans?[/quote]

I think I have the same type she has, without the tail. Cardigans have tails.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 26, 2006, 07:43:41 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
This isn't my corgi, but I get a chuckle out of this pic whenever i see it.

http://www.thingsthatmakeyougoaahh.com/images/193-corgi.jpg


It won't let me access it.  :(

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /images/193-corgi.jpg on this server.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 07:43:52 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote
It's another Boston Terrier - or as we refer to them at our house - a Boston Terrorist.


I know what you mean. :wink:  Little dog that thinks it's a big one? I have a Pembroke Welsh Corgi, she runs the house here.


Do YOU!? I have a Pembroke that lives at the lake with a friend! He's so smart and so stubborn! Name's Rudy!


He is so bad you had to send him to a foster home?  :wink:  :lol:
My pups name is Marley.[/quote]

No, lol! I'll be moving there when I get my house sold. Never expected that. The lakehouse was a "fixer upper" that I wanted to try to flip for income and my friend wanted to live there and help fix it up. I bought Rudy for him because it was love at first sight between them. Rudy came to work with him and would go home with one of us every night. I've never stayed at the lake for more than a night or two. When my son came home from college, he brought his bull mastiff, Bubba, with him, and it would just be too easy for the Big boy to accidently hurt Rudy. Bubba's sweet but my Shar Pei has her paws full with him. I Love Dogs!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 07:48:59 PM
No tail on Rudy! The Queen has Pembrokes too, I think. He's reddish brown and white. He's like a big dog on short stumps!  :lol: I have invisable fences at both houses, and have trained 4 dogs on them. Guess who was the most stubborn and hardest to break? Um-Hum. Bubba was a piece of cake. Rudy kept testing it!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 26, 2006, 07:49:03 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I'm cracking myself up here!!!!

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/disco-room.gif)

 :lol:  :lol:  You're cracking me up here too.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 07:49:23 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
This isn't my corgi, but I get a chuckle out of this pic whenever i see it.

http://www.thingsthatmakeyougoaahh.com/images/193-corgi.jpg


It won't let me access it.  :(

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /images/193-corgi.jpg on this server.


No? That's strange, if I knew how to copy it I would.  :cry:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 26, 2006, 07:51:23 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
This isn't my corgi, but I get a chuckle out of this pic whenever i see it.

http://www.thingsthatmakeyougoaahh.com/images/193-corgi.jpg


It won't let me access it.  :(

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /images/193-corgi.jpg on this server.


No? That's strange, if I knew how to copy it I would.  :cry:


Well, thank you for trying. I love all dog pictures - I rarely meet a dog I don't fall in love with. :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 07:52:42 PM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I'm cracking myself up here!!!!

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/disco-room.gif)

 :lol:  :lol:  You're cracking me up here too.


Well San, I tried to fix the "stiff" look, and have now managed to swat flies.  :roll:

Have you noticed that no one is asking me for an avatar??  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 07:54:36 PM
CBB wrote;
Quote

No, lol! I'll be moving there when I get my house sold. Never expected that. The lakehouse was a "fixer upper" that I wanted to try to flip for income and my friend wanted to live there and help fix it up. I bought Rudy for him because it was love at first sight between them. Rudy came to work with him and would go home with one of us every night. I've never stayed at the lake for more than a night or two. When my son came home from college, he brought his bull mastiff, Bubba, with him, and it would just be too easy for the Big boy to accidently hurt Rudy. Bubba's sweet but my Shar Pei has her paws full with him. I Love Dogs


I was only kidding about the foster home. Wow you do have a houseful don't you! Corgi's are very sweet though, it is hard not to love them. This is the second one I have had. This one is tan  and white, the first one , a male-Murphy, was tri-color. Mastiffs are very intimidating because of their size, but  they all seem to be big 'ol teddy bears.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 26, 2006, 07:54:48 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I'm cracking myself up here!!!!

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/disco-room.gif)

 :lol:  :lol:  You're cracking me up here too.


Well San, I tried to fix the "stiff" look, and have now managed to swat flies.  :roll:

Have you noticed that no one is asking me for an avatar??  :lol:  :lol:

 :lol:  :lol:  You do great work CBB.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 08:04:44 PM
I'm watching Nancy Grace. She's doing a show on JonBenet right now. That's a strange case.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 08:11:37 PM
Here are a few ugly mugs to look at......

http://tinyurl.com/v4yww

http://tinyurl.com/y5rf3h


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 08:13:24 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Here are a few ugly mugs to look at......

http://tinyurl.com/v4yww

http://tinyurl.com/y5rf3h


Ugly? I agree! It never fails to amaze me how these twirps have these gorgeous girls on their arm!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Cat on December 26, 2006, 08:14:37 PM
Thank you for the info.3 miles at night is a reasonable run/trot in an escape,if headed to lights.I do not know the layout of the island.i do know a little about dogs.I have a Katrina rescue,she grew to 70 lbs,a real love.Doesn't know her size,loves to play with all size cats and dogs,but she scares some.She generaly likes people,but she did show tooth to 1 person who is a jerk.He had papers for me and I was saying go away.The layout of aruba is strange.I live next door to tracey's mom.They didn't like aruba before Nat and really hate it now.I guess it was a straight road or line of sight from the vds to the rocks.Cat


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on December 26, 2006, 08:19:39 PM
Hope I resized this correctly....Here is the corgi pic:

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/2NJSons_Mom/193-corgi.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on December 26, 2006, 08:20:34 PM
Hi Monkeys.  I can't stay long as I'm on a very slow internet connection on the cruise ship Grand Princess, but I had to check in with my Monkeys and say hi to everyone.  I hope everyone had a wonderful Christmas.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 26, 2006, 08:21:01 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Here are a few ugly mugs to look at......

http://tinyurl.com/v4yww

http://tinyurl.com/y5rf3h

They are both ugly.  The guy Jerry is on my last nerve and I'm biting my tongue because they say he has a little down syndrome.  It doesn't seem to keep him out of the bars and giving everyone the middle finger in almost every picture.

These girls are foolish wanted to take pictures with these rapist murderers.  I guess she likes they way he waxes his eyebrows :roll:  because I just don't see the attraction.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 08:22:47 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Hi Monkeys.  I can't stay long as I'm on a very slow internet connection on the cruise ship Grand Princess, but I had to check in with my Monkeys and say hi to everyone.  I hope everyone had a wonderful Christmas.


Are you having a good time??? Where are you now??? What's the next port of call??


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 08:23:01 PM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Hope I resized this correctly....Here is the corgi pic:

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/2NJSons_Mom/193-corgi.jpg)


thankyou 2NJSons , there he is.  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on December 26, 2006, 08:26:50 PM
Hi CBB.  We are having a wonderful time.  I think I could get used to this life, but I'm sure I'd weigh hundreds of pounds more!  

We are having a wonderful time.  My DH's birthday was Dec. 25, so they taped three balloons to our door that said Happy Birthday.  Then, after dinner in the dining room, the waiters came over and sang Happy Birthday and served him a special chocolate cake with a rose on top.  So, all in all, he had a nice birthday.

On Dec. 25 we got up early and had room service bring us coffee, juice and danish at 7 am.  Then, we had some breakfast in the dining room and met Marnie and Steve and we went ashore in Cozumel.  It was drizzling rain and not very nice, but it was warm enough.  We hired a taxi and he drove us about 15 miles to a beach where we hired a boat and guide to take us snorkeling out on the reef.  This reef around Cozumel has been named one of the best in the world to snorkel and scuba dive by Jacques Cousteau.  It was amazing!  We snorkeled for about 2 hours and saw all kinds and colors of fish, including some small barracuda and a manta ray.  It rained while we snorkeled but that didn't matter as we were in the ocean!  The guide was in the water with us and would dive about 15 feet down to the reef below and show us things like octupus and other creatures.  The water is clear and turquoise blue and the sand is pure white.  Really, the Caribbean is a tropical paradise.  Then, about noon we went back to the ship, met Mom and Dad and we all had lunch in the dining room.  Sister and I took Mom shopping (in the rain!) while the guys watched a football game on the big screen by the pool.  We all had dinner together then.  Really a nice day despite the awful weather.

Today, we were in Roatan, Honduras.  It's a little island, only 25 miles long and 4 miles wide, off the coast of Honduras.  We went on a tour of the island with a private guide.  He showed us a beautiful beach and then we went to a place where DH, Sister and BIL went on a rip-line adventure.  These are heavy cables suspended above the trees and on a down slide angle.  There are platforms high up on the trees  where they attach a harness hitched to you to the cable and you ride the rip line cable down the mountain to the next platform.  There are a series of 17 platforms.  It took them about 45 minutes to make the whole trip.  DH said it was really cool and he enjoyed it.  I was not going on it for anything!  Much too high and fast for me!  Anyway, we then shopped, got a bite to eat and beers to drink and came back to the ship about 5 or so.  We're now at sea and I'm waiting for the rest of them to dress and we're going to dinner in the dining room at 8:30, as usual.  

The ship is sailing tonight and we get to Belize tomorrow.  It should be sunny and nicer weather (I hope!).  I'll write more later in the week if I get time.  See ya,
AZ


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 26, 2006, 08:29:08 PM
Hi monkeys!  I am back to my old self again...now would CBB please make me festive for the New Year's Eve party? TIA


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 26, 2006, 08:33:24 PM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Hope I resized this correctly....Here is the corgi pic:

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/2NJSons_Mom/193-corgi.jpg)


Awwww....that's adorable!

Thanks!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on December 26, 2006, 08:34:30 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I'm cracking myself up here!!!!

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/disco-room.gif)


Hi Gang...
I'm a few pages back... but could someone let me know what crazybabyborg is taking now days for this energy level  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 08:35:59 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Hi monkeys!  I am back to my old self again...now would CBB please make me festive for the New Year's Eve party? TIA
Hi Lala's! There's a thread in the Lounge with New Years avatars. Do you want to browse those?

Nice to see ya!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 08:40:12 PM
OF!  I'm trying to work off a lot of Christmas goodies!  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: AZSunny on December 26, 2006, 08:43:23 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Hi Monkeys.  I can't stay long as I'm on a very slow internet connection on the cruise ship Grand Princess, but I had to check in with my Monkeys and say hi to everyone.  I hope everyone had a wonderful Christmas.


AZ Lady..we love the Grand!!  My daughter was married in the chapel 6 years ago!!  Enjoy!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on December 26, 2006, 08:44:21 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
OF!  I'm trying to work off a lot of Christmas goodies!  :wink:


A lot of chocolate goodies -  by the look of it.   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 08:45:58 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
OF!  I'm trying to work off a lot of Christmas goodies!  :wink:


A lot of chocolate goodies -  by the look of it.   :lol:


Wanna dance, of? Can you do the "Herman Munster?"  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 08:48:59 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
OF!  I'm trying to work off a lot of Christmas goodies!  :wink:


A lot of chocolate goodies -  by the look of it.   :lol:


Wanna dance, of? Can you do the "Herman Munster?"  :lol:


Stop It! You've got me cracking up again. ROFL! She looks like she shaved too close under the arms, and has just put on deodorant!!  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 08:51:39 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I'm cracking myself up here!!!!

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/disco-room.gif)


Hi Gang...
I'm a few pages back... but could someone let me know what crazybabyborg is taking now days for this energy level  :lol:


I actually think she has fallen prey to one of those zombie drugs! LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 26, 2006, 08:52:57 PM
Hi monks.  I'm jealous AZ!  Have fun and stay safe!  CBB - I want to know what you use to make your avi's,  I want to change Tinkerbell for the New year!  I've been looking for something to download to use, but not sure what.  What do you use?   I love your avi  :wink:

Hope everybody had a wonderful Christmas!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on December 26, 2006, 08:55:03 PM
:lol:  :lol:
CBB
I was thinking ya might be able to add stuff to this and add it to the Lounge avatars you have come up with for New Years
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/betty_wink.gif)
& I still have the Red-Betty too  :oops:

Just wondering


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 08:55:36 PM
Well Dang, Bleached! She's swattin' flies! What more do you want than a useful Zombie???

That avatar might work best for Halloween. Zombie doing the "Monster Mash"?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 08:56:50 PM
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Hi monks.  I'm jealous AZ!  Have fun and stay safe!  CBB - I want to know what you use to make your avi's,  I want to change Tinkerbell for the New year!  I've been looking for something to download to use, but not sure what.  What do you use?   I love your avi  :wink:

Hope everybody had a wonderful Christmas!


I use Photoshop and Klaas.  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 08:57:06 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Well Dang, Bleached! She's swattin' flies! What more do you want than a useful Zombie???

That avatar might work best for Halloween. Zombie doing the "Monster Mash"?


Hahahaha  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on December 26, 2006, 08:57:09 PM
:oops:  :oops:
Too many durn Tabs open  :oops:
This should have been the post.

Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
OF!  I'm trying to work off a lot of Christmas goodies!  :wink:


A lot of chocolate goodies -  by the look of it.   :lol:


Wanna dance, of? Can you do the "Herman Munster?"  :lol:


Stop It! You've got me cracking up again. ROFL! She looks like she shaved too close under the arms, and has just put on deodorant!!  :lol:

:lol:  :lol:
Or maybe jus got out of one of those 1/2 body casts ya see in the movies &  still wanted to Party
CBB
I was thinking ya might be able to add stuff to this and add it to the Lounge avatars you have come up with

Then the prior post...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 08:58:38 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
:lol:  :lol:
CBB
I was thinking ya might be able to add stuff to this and add it to the Lounge avatars you have come up with for New Years
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/betty_wink.gif)
& I still have the Red-Betty too  :oops:

Just wondering


Now you've gone and created a delima(sp?) for me. I love that OF! And what if I want it ???

Let me see what I can do...........


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 08:58:38 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
:oops:  :oops:
Too many durn Tabs open  :oops:
This should have been the post.

Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
OF!  I'm trying to work off a lot of Christmas goodies!  :wink:


A lot of chocolate goodies -  by the look of it.   :lol:


Wanna dance, of? Can you do the "Herman Munster?"  :lol:


Stop It! You've got me cracking up again. ROFL! She looks like she shaved too close under the arms, and has just put on deodorant!!  :lol:

:lol:  :lol:
Or maybe jus got out of one of those 1/2 body casts ya see in the movies &  still wanted to Party
CBB
I was thinking ya might be able to add stuff to this and add it to the Lounge avatars you have come up with

Then the prior post...


.....or tyranasaurus drying nail polish?  That's kinda stupid :(


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 26, 2006, 08:59:52 PM
My 'puter with photoshop is down now and using my daughter's which has bare necessities on it.  No photo editing tools.  Guess, I'll stick with Christmas Tink.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 08:59:54 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "oldfart"
:lol:  :lol:
CBB
I was thinking ya might be able to add stuff to this and add it to the Lounge avatars you have come up with for New Years
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/betty_wink.gif)
& I still have the Red-Betty too  :oops:

Just wondering


Now you've gone and created a delima(sp?) for me. I love that OF! And what if I want it ???

Let me see what I can do...........


OH NO! Please don't make that big Betty start walking around!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 09:00:33 PM
I'm dying here. My stomach hurts from laughing with you guys!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on December 26, 2006, 09:00:50 PM
Oh  BTW
It appears that robots has been talking to the Media
Reality bytes: Robots could demand independence
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/12/21/robot.rights.ap/index.html

 :roll:  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 09:00:59 PM
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
My 'puter with photoshop is down now and using my daughter's which has bare necessities on it.  No photo editing tools.  Guess, I'll stick with Christmas Tink.


I'm stuck too, can't get my hat off. Oh well, I look lovely in red.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 09:02:48 PM
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
My 'puter with photoshop is down now and using my daughter's which has bare necessities on it.  No photo editing tools.  Guess, I'll stick with Christmas Tink.


I'm really green with this stuff, Dihannah. I'm sure there are other programs, but I don't have a clue. Klaas could probably advise. I'll help to the limits of my potential, with anything I can.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 09:03:04 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
Oh  BTW
It appears that robots has been talking to the Media
Reality bytes: Robots could demand independence
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/12/21/robot.rights.ap/index.html

 :roll:  :wink:


It's OK let him read that. It will help detract from his discovering the true reason for robots.....to be slaves .  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on December 26, 2006, 09:06:37 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "oldfart"
:lol:  :lol:
CBB
I was thinking ya might be able to add stuff to this and add it to the Lounge avatars you have come up with for New Years
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/betty_wink.gif)
& I still have the Red-Betty too  :oops:

Just wondering


Now you've gone and created a delima(sp?) for me. I love that OF! And what if I want it ???
Let me see what I can do...........

CBB
I take it you are referening to the Betty gif.. :roll:  . Did I post the Red Betty for you one time (dress flying like Marlyn's (sp)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 09:06:47 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
My 'puter with photoshop is down now and using my daughter's which has bare necessities on it.  No photo editing tools.  Guess, I'll stick with Christmas Tink.


I'm stuck too, can't get my hat off. Oh well, I look lovely in red.


I just tried, Bleached, but the eraser took your head off with the hat. SOWWY! I'd help if I knew how! There are other avatars in the Lounge, if you want a new one.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 09:07:41 PM
Yes, you did, OF! I love it!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 09:08:13 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Hi monkeys!  I am back to my old self again...now would CBB please make me festive for the New Year's Eve party? TIA


 :lol:  :lol:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/lalamomny2007.gif)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/lalany2007.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 26, 2006, 09:08:54 PM
<a href=http://www.glitter-graphics.com title='Myspace Graphics'><img src=http://dl3.glitter-graphics.net/pub/6/6789c23avjz8z1.gif width=253 height=295 alt='myspace layouts, myspace codes, glitter graphics' border=0></a>

Here's a Betty Boop New Years avi....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 26, 2006, 09:10:09 PM
Well, I guess it would help if I knew how to show the Image from the link I found it from!  I just happen to run across it looking for my own!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on December 26, 2006, 09:11:50 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Hi monkeys!  I am back to my old self again...now would CBB please make me festive for the New Year's Eve party? TIA


 :lol:  :lol:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/lalamomny2007.gif)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/lalany2007.gif)


Lala's
I have your Easter attire... maybe they could change that one ???


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 09:12:09 PM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/blchblk.jpg)

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/blchblk.jpg


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 26, 2006, 09:12:46 PM
Here is the link  http://www.glitter-graphics.com/graphics/3395

Betty Boop New Years Eve avi


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 09:13:42 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
My 'puter with photoshop is down now and using my daughter's which has bare necessities on it.  No photo editing tools.  Guess, I'll stick with Christmas Tink.


I'm stuck too, can't get my hat off. Oh well, I look lovely in red.


I just tried, Bleached, but the eraser took your head off with the hat. SOWWY! I'd help if I knew how! There are other avatars in the Lounge, if you want a new one.


LOL that's funny!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 09:15:06 PM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/Dihannah.gif)

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/Dihannah.gif


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Appeals on December 26, 2006, 09:15:14 PM
I have like 30 seconds right now, but just wanted to let everyone know that I hope all their Christmas wishes came true, and that I wish everyone a Happy New Year in 2007, and that all who are ill will recover, and all who are alone will find companions, and all who are in a quandry will find an answer!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 09:16:09 PM
Klaas! I love the Lala's 2007 glasses! COOL!

I'm so glad you're here!!!

Is there a way to put an animation on an animation??  :shock:

I thought about giving Betty Disco Ball earrings.  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 26, 2006, 09:16:36 PM
Another Betty Boop New Year http://www.glitter-graphics.com/graphics/6538


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 26, 2006, 09:16:41 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Hi monkeys!  I am back to my old self again...now would CBB please make me festive for the New Year's Eve party? TIA


 :lol:  :lol:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/lalamomny2007.gif)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/lalany2007.gif)


Klaas, the one with the 2007 across her eyes makes her look like Elton John wearing one of his giant set of glasses.  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 09:19:06 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Klaas! I love the Lala's 2007 glasses! COOL!

I'm so glad you're here!!!

Is there a way to put an animation on an animation??  :shock:

I thought about giving Betty Disco Ball earrings.  :lol:

I don't know :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 09:19:41 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Hi monkeys!  I am back to my old self again...now would CBB please make me festive for the New Year's Eve party? TIA


 :lol:  :lol:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/lalamomny2007.gif)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/lalany2007.gif)


Klaas, the one with the 2007 across her eyes makes her look like Elton John wearing one of his giant set of glasses.  :lol:

That's exactly what they are, 2007 eyeglasses, lol  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 26, 2006, 09:20:03 PM
Klaas, how do I put i graphic in my sig. line?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 09:20:48 PM
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Klaas, how do I put i graphic in my sig. line?

You need to add the IMG tags in your signature line.  I tried saving the Betty Boop to my pc but it didn't work for some reason.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on December 26, 2006, 09:22:14 PM
Lala's
Have you considered a whole New Look for the New Year?
It needs to be worked on a bit  ... but how about
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/sharpener.jpg)
Just wondering AND  ducking & running  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Frijole on December 26, 2006, 09:22:16 PM
You can tell what I'll be doing on New Years' Day!

Happy end of 06 and New year everyone!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 09:22:20 PM
whatcha think, monkeys?

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/BettyBoopNewYear.gif)

I like it! Thanks Tink!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 26, 2006, 09:22:25 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Klaas, how do I put i graphic in my sig. line?

You need to add the IMG tags in your signature line.  I tried saving the Betty Boop to my pc but it didn't work for some reason.


I saved Betty on mine, I can send them both to you.  But as you can see, I'm doing something wrong.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 09:24:49 PM
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Klaas, how do I put i graphic in my sig. line?

You need to add the IMG tags in your signature line.  I tried saving the Betty Boop to my pc but it didn't work for some reason.


I saved Betty on mine, I can send them both to you.  But as you can see, I'm doing something wrong.

No need to send to me.  I've got enough to do.  Looks like CBB has had some luck with it but not animated.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 09:25:21 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
whatcha think, monkeys?

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/BettyBoopNewYear.gif)

I like it! Thanks Tink!!


Cute one CBB .


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on December 26, 2006, 09:26:37 PM
Quote from: "Frijole"
You can tell what I'll be doing on New Years' Day!

Happy end of 06 and New year everyone!

Frijole
Did you happen to send CBB some "special blend" of Coffee Beans for Christmas..  :?  (given her current avatar condition  :wink: ) :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 26, 2006, 09:27:36 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
whatcha think, monkeys?

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/BettyBoopNewYear.gif)

I like it! Thanks Tink!!


Cute one CBB .


Cool,  I have another one too, if somebody wants it.  Anybody help me with my sig line?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on December 26, 2006, 09:27:59 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
whatcha think, monkeys?

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/BettyBoopNewYear.gif)

I like it! Thanks Tink!!


Well
It is a lot calmer  avatar ... :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 09:28:08 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/BettyBoopGlass.jpg)

AHAH! NOW, if I can just make her leg go up and down.............

I get it! Ya'll don't like my frantic dance, so, let me see what I can do. She's got to be tired anyway!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 09:29:26 PM
Bleachedblack - not sure if you saw me post this on the previous page.

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/blchblk.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 09:29:43 PM
What is it Tink? Do you need help? I'll try.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on December 26, 2006, 09:31:53 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/BettyBoopGlass.jpg)

AHAH! NOW, if I can just make her leg go up and down.............

I get it! Ya'll don't like my frantic dance, so, let me see what I can do. She's got to be tired anyway!


And ... maybe an arm drop  (easy on the leg or arm movements  :wink:  :lol: )


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 26, 2006, 09:33:47 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
What is it Tink? Do you need help? I'll try.


Well if you can see my link in my sig line, it is the link to what I am trying to post.  I even added the [img] tags like Klaas said.

Here is the link   http://www.glitter-graphics.com/graphics/68344


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 26, 2006, 09:33:52 PM
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
whatcha think, monkeys?

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/BettyBoopNewYear.gif)

I like it! Thanks Tink!!


Cute one CBB .


Cool,  I have another one too, if somebody wants it.  Anybody help me with my sig line?


Put this in your sig without the spaces in the img tags

[ img]http://dl6.glitter-graphics.net/pub/141/141746l4fiobzhr4.gif[/img ]

(http://dl6.glitter-graphics.net/pub/141/141746l4fiobzhr4.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 26, 2006, 09:35:38 PM
Klaas
You da one, baby!!!  Thanks for my new and improved look for the party.  Now I feel festive and happy.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 26, 2006, 09:36:05 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Klaas, how do I put i graphic in my sig. line?

You need to add the IMG tags in your signature line.  I tried saving the Betty Boop to my pc but it didn't work for some reason.


I saved Betty on mine, I can send them both to you.  But as you can see, I'm doing something wrong.

No need to send to me.  I've got enough to do.  Looks like CBB has had some luck with it but not animated.



Hmmm, it's animated on the site.  It has her hands moving on the clock..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 09:36:15 PM
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
What is it Tink? Do you need help? I'll try.


Well if you can see my link in my sig line, it is the link to what I am trying to post.  I even added the [img] tags like Klaas said.

Here is the link   http://www.glitter-graphics.com/graphics/68344


k, give me a sec.........


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 26, 2006, 09:36:15 PM
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
<a href=http://www.glitter-graphics.com title='Myspace Graphics'><img src=http://dl3.glitter-graphics.net/pub/6/6789c23avjz8z1.gif width=253 height=295 alt='myspace layouts, myspace codes, glitter graphics' border=0></a>

Here's a Betty Boop New Years avi....


(http://dl3.glitter-graphics.net/pub/6/6789c23avjz8z1.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 26, 2006, 09:36:37 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Hi monkeys!  I am back to my old self again...now would CBB please make me festive for the New Year's Eve party? TIA


 :lol:  :lol:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/lalamomny2007.gif)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/lalany2007.gif)


Lala's
I have your Easter attire... maybe they could change that one ???


Oh no, you hold onto to that one, I plan on using it again this year, just for you. It's my favorite.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 26, 2006, 09:38:01 PM
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Klaas, how do I put i graphic in my sig. line?

You need to add the IMG tags in your signature line.  I tried saving the Betty Boop to my pc but it didn't work for some reason.


I saved Betty on mine, I can send them both to you.  But as you can see, I'm doing something wrong.

No need to send to me.  I've got enough to do.  Looks like CBB has had some luck with it but not animated.



Hmmm, it's animated on the site.  It has her hands moving on the clock..


Ah, take out the spaces at each end in the [ img] should be [img] to work.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 26, 2006, 09:38:16 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
Lala's
Have you considered a whole New Look for the New Year?
It needs to be worked on a bit  ... but how about
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/sharpener.jpg)
Just wondering AND  ducking & running  :wink:


I have been pondering a make over, what did you have in mind? Need I ask? :roll:  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 09:38:24 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/GlitNY.gif)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/GlitNY.gif


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 09:39:42 PM
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
What is it Tink? Do you need help? I'll try.


Well if you can see my link in my sig line, it is the link to what I am trying to post.  I even added the [img] tags like Klaas said.

Here is the link   http://www.glitter-graphics.com/graphics/68344


I don't think that site is allowing direct links.  You will have to save it to your PC then upload it to photobucket.  Then add it to your sig line.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Frijole on December 26, 2006, 09:40:00 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "Frijole"
You can tell what I'll be doing on New Years' Day!

Happy end of 06 and New year everyone!

Frijole
Did you happen to send CBB some "special blend" of Coffee Beans for Christmas..  :?  (given her current avatar condition  :wink: ) :lol:


 :lol:  :lol: Not I!   :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 26, 2006, 09:40:18 PM
CBB
I am exhausted watching you dance and you're not even doing the tango!  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 26, 2006, 09:40:52 PM
Thanks Carnut and CBB!  Wow, that is mega avi!  Guess I better work on shrinking it!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 26, 2006, 09:41:18 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
What is it Tink? Do you need help? I'll try.


Well if you can see my link in my sig line, it is the link to what I am trying to post.  I even added the [img] tags like Klaas said.

Here is the link   http://www.glitter-graphics.com/graphics/68344


I don't think that site is allowing direct links.  You will have to save it to your PC then upload it to photobucket.  Then add it to your sig line.


I posted the images with direct links.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on December 26, 2006, 09:42:48 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "oldfart"
Lala's
Have you considered a whole New Look for the New Year?
It needs to be worked on a bit  ... but how about
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/sharpener.jpg)
Just wondering AND  ducking & running  :wink:


I have been pondering a make over, what did you have in mind? Need I ask? :roll:  :roll:


As I said Just wondering...
It was the sharpener, or maybe this book that someone can make write out Happy New Year..someway
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/lalas_book.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 09:45:23 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
What is it Tink? Do you need help? I'll try.


Well if you can see my link in my sig line, it is the link to what I am trying to post.  I even added the (http:// tags like Klaas said.Here is the link   http://www.glitter-graphics.com/graphics/68344[/quote]I don't think that site is allowing direct links.  You will have to save it to your PC then upload it to photobucket.  Then add it to your sig line.[/quote]That's what I did, Tink, and I was able to post it here. I can resize:[img]http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/GlitNY-1.gif)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/GlitNY-1.gif


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 09:48:11 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
CBB
I am exhausted watching you dance and you're not even doing the tango!  :roll:


I missed the Christmas fairy that turned all the monkeys into smartasses! :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 09:49:57 PM
Carnut - yes but not the animated one.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on December 26, 2006, 09:50:25 PM
LaLa's

The 2007 glasses is OK...
And if you can add more color in them... then Like BT said they would be more like Elton's glasses (hope you like Elton)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 09:52:05 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
LaLa's

The 2007 glasses is OK...
And if you can add more color in them... then Like BT said they would be more like Elton's glasses (hope you like Elton)


And while you're at it, Klass, give OF a Director's Hat!  :lol:  :lol:


Wub You, OF!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 26, 2006, 09:52:48 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
CBB
I am exhausted watching you dance and you're not even doing the tango!  :roll:


I missed the Christmas fairy that turned all the monkeys into smartasses! :lol:  :lol:


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 26, 2006, 09:53:41 PM
Finally!  Thanks again CBB and CARNUT!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 26, 2006, 09:56:36 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
CBB
I am exhausted watching you dance and you're not even doing the tango!  :roll:


I missed the Christmas fairy that turned all the monkeys into smartasses! :lol:  :lol:

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 09:56:57 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
LaLa's

The 2007 glasses is OK...
And if you can add more color in them... then Like BT said they would be more like Elton's glasses (hope you like Elton)


Isn't that cute! OF wants to look like Elton John!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 26, 2006, 09:58:30 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "oldfart"
LaLa's

The 2007 glasses is OK...
And if you can add more color in them... then Like BT said they would be more like Elton's glasses (hope you like Elton)


Isn't that cute! OF wants to look like Elton John!


No, I think it's worse than that. OF wants LALA'S to look like Elton John! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on December 26, 2006, 09:59:59 PM
Lala's
I also have this one that always reminds me of you (no Not the Mop)

the cage clean-up broom (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/23333afd.gif)
Cleaning up the old year to make room for New Year  RESULTS


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 10:00:21 PM
Here's one for OF.
http://elton-john-news.newslib.com/img/logo/2226.jpg


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 26, 2006, 10:01:03 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "oldfart"
LaLa's

The 2007 glasses is OK...
And if you can add more color in them... then Like BT said they would be more like Elton's glasses (hope you like Elton)


Isn't that cute! OF wants to look like Elton John!


I knew I was a superstar...just didn't want to brag. :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 10:01:23 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "oldfart"
LaLa's

The 2007 glasses is OK...
And if you can add more color in them... then Like BT said they would be more like Elton's glasses (hope you like Elton)


Isn't that cute! OF wants to look like Elton John!


No, I think it's worse than that. OF wants LALA'S to look like Elton John! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Ooooh Hmmmmm


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on December 26, 2006, 10:02:04 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "oldfart"
LaLa's

The 2007 glasses is OK...
And if you can add more color in them... then Like BT said they would be more like Elton's glasses (hope you like Elton)


Isn't that cute! OF wants to look like Elton John!


No, I think it's worse than that. OF wants LALA'S to look like Elton John! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo  On both counts  :!:  :evil:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 26, 2006, 10:02:48 PM
Was that 2NJ's little doggie I saw a few pages back...so cute?  I just love puppies and puppy breath.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 26, 2006, 10:04:17 PM
You guys are just jealous that you can't carry off the large glasses.  It must be my charm and beauty of course.   :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 26, 2006, 10:04:56 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Was that 2NJ's little doggie I saw a few pages back...so cute?  I just love puppies and puppy breath.


Trying to change the subject Elton?  :P  :lol:

I think 2NJ was just showing us what a corgi pup looks like - I don't think it was hers personally.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 10:06:14 PM
Thanks Dihanna - got your email!

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/bettynewyear.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 10:07:50 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Was that 2NJ's little doggie I saw a few pages back...so cute?  I just love puppies and puppy breath.
I had tried to post a link to the kind of dog I have. The pic is not my dog, but whenever I see that pic it makes my smile. 2NJSons was able to fix the link.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 26, 2006, 10:12:13 PM
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Was that 2NJ's little doggie I saw a few pages back...so cute?  I just love puppies and puppy breath.
I had tried to post a link to the kind of dog I have. The pic is not my dog, but whenever I see that pic it makes my smile. 2NJSons was able to fix the link.


Well, it made me smile too.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: casa on December 26, 2006, 10:13:12 PM
How is everyone tonight?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 26, 2006, 10:15:43 PM
Quote from: "casa"
How is everyone tonight?


Hi casa. How are you?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LilPuma on December 26, 2006, 10:15:49 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
Oh  BTW
It appears that robots has been talking to the Media
Reality bytes: Robots could demand independence
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/12/21/robot.rights.ap/index.html

 :roll:  :wink:


The United Kingdom Office of Science and Innovation foresees the day when robots will be able to reproduce and think for themselves.
 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: casa on December 26, 2006, 10:17:28 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "casa"
How is everyone tonight?


Hi casa. How are you?


Doing great BTgirl!  Enjoying the quiet after yesterday! haha


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 10:18:30 PM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "bleachedblack"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Was that 2NJ's little doggie I saw a few pages back...so cute?  I just love puppies and puppy breath.
I had tried to post a link to the kind of dog I have. The pic is not my dog, but whenever I see that pic it makes my smile. 2NJSons was able to fix the link.


Well, it made me smile too.


Good, he is a cutie. Now I have 2 things sure to make me chuckle if in need. 1) cute little sleeping pup  2) CBB's avatar.. :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LilPuma on December 26, 2006, 10:20:38 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
CBB
I am exhausted watching you dance and you're not even doing the tango!  :roll:


I missed the Christmas fairy that turned all the monkeys into smartasses! :lol:  :lol:


CBB, I just keep laughing at this avatar.   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on December 26, 2006, 10:21:21 PM
Quote from: "LilPuma"
Quote from: "oldfart"
Oh  BTW
It appears that robots has been talking to the Media
Reality bytes: Robots could demand independence
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/12/21/robot.rights.ap/index.html

 :roll:  :wink:


The United Kingdom Office of Science and Innovation foresees the day when robots will be able to reproduce and think for themselves.
 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:


YUP I'm just guessing but I think our friend (robots) will have a hell of an e-mail headed the UK on this one   :shock:   :lol:  :lol: :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 26, 2006, 10:22:15 PM
Quote from: "casa"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "casa"
How is everyone tonight?


Hi casa. How are you?


Doing great BTgirl!  Enjoying the quiet after yesterday! haha


Yeah, I'm a big fan of quiet myself.  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 26, 2006, 10:24:51 PM
Hi Casa, good to see you.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LilPuma on December 26, 2006, 10:31:19 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Hi CBB.  We are having a wonderful time.  I think I could get used to this life, but I'm sure I'd weigh hundreds of pounds more!  



I'm jellous!  Have a great time (but be careful, ya hear?).  Plenty of time for dieting when you have to cook.  Hope you'll check in with us again.  It sounds so great!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: robots on December 26, 2006, 10:37:11 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "LilPuma"
Quote from: "oldfart"
Oh  BTW
It appears that robots has been talking to the Media
Reality bytes: Robots could demand independence
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/12/21/robot.rights.ap/index.html

 :roll:  :wink:


The United Kingdom Office of Science and Innovation foresees the day when robots will be able to reproduce and think for themselves.
 :shock:  :shock:  :shock:


YUP I'm just guessing but I think our friend (robots) will have a hell of an e-mail headed the UK on this one   :shock:   :lol:  :lol: :lol:  :lol:



 8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 10:37:30 PM
Quote from: "LilPuma"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
CBB
I am exhausted watching you dance and you're not even doing the tango!  :roll:


I missed the Christmas fairy that turned all the monkeys into smartasses! :lol:  :lol:


CBB, I just keep laughing at this avatar.   :lol:


I'M WORKING ON IT!!! I SHOULD HAVE PACKED A LUNCH, BUT I"M WORKING ON IT!!!
(  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  )


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 10:39:34 PM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/cbb2007.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on December 26, 2006, 10:42:46 PM
ok, finally figured out how to use photobucket, sizing and using the links on here.   My animiated Tinker works now too!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on December 26, 2006, 11:06:08 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/cbb2007.gif)


JMO  
But seems like CBB is still dancing what I think was called the "Egyptian"
or something like that :?

robots
What can I say... I saw the News Line and thought of you :roll:  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on December 26, 2006, 11:08:05 PM
Well Monkey's I'm gone for the night...

If anyone can pass this on to Klaasend, CBB or whoever can make it ...um ha... more appropriate for the New Year I would be thankful

It is the very 1st avatar I ever used...
I changed to this one when someone (way back when when RB & Absolute were mods)  said it made them Skeeeeered.  
I was just starting to post .... so I went with (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/51790ead.gif) to more or less Fit In  :oops:

I have been here long enough & learned enough to NOT worry about my avatar being skeeeery... (Offensive is different) to any new posters or old buddies.

So come the 1st of year you will have to get used to my  Old.... / ... New Look. (Talk about a make over).

If anyone finds it Skeeeery.. or Creepy.. Too Bad!


Later Monkeys
SeeYaByeeee



Here comes the Old me




Are ya ready

Take a deep breath and think good thoughts of me (if ya can)







(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/411568d0.jpg)

SYB
OldFart

p.s.
No Stealing of Avatars is allowed :wink:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 11:16:34 PM
OOOHHH I think it's lovely! sort of an Oldfart/Babyfart  huh?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 26, 2006, 11:20:04 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/cbb2007.gif)


JMO  
But seems like CBB is still dancing what I think was called the "Egyptian"
or something like that :?

robots
What can I say... I saw the News Line and thought of you :roll:  :wink:


Yep, looks like CBB is doing the "Egyptian".


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 11:30:12 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/Betty-NY.gif)

I've been buried in Photoshop, and this is as good as I can do! Are you grumpy, "Critics Choice" monkeys satisfied now???

 :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 26, 2006, 11:32:24 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/Betty-NY.gif)

I've been buried in Photoshop, and this is as good as I can do! Are you grumpy, "Critics Choice" monkeys satisfied now???

 :lol:  :lol:


Yep, looks like a true artist at work.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 11:35:42 PM
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/411568d0.jpg)

OMG! I haven't even read the post, just scrolled up to catch up..........

WHAT HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN DOING WHILE I'VE BEEN GONE!!!!????

What have you done to OF !?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: bleachedblack on December 26, 2006, 11:36:45 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/cbb2007.gif)


JMO  
But seems like CBB is still dancing what I think was called the "Egyptian"
or something like that :?

robots
What can I say... I saw the News Line and thought of you :roll:  :wink:


Yep, looks like CBB is doing the "Egyptian".


You are right Carnut . This ones for you CBB .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdRaLuKhobU


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 11:37:34 PM
Oldfart  - there's virtually no color in your original avatar so it's hard to add color to it and keep it animated. I can add it unanimated to an animated background though.  :wink:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/OFfireworks1.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on December 26, 2006, 11:39:05 PM
:oops:  :oops:
Forgot the Link to a Midi ... of a song that always makes me think of  Beth & Natalee when I hear it.
NOT the words ... but the music..and the Gut feeling I think it evokes
http://www.cool-midi.com/midi/r/rob_thomas-this_is_how_a_heart_breaks.mid

The notification that Natalle was missing
The rush to get to Aruba for answers and early activities by her family
The acts of Aruba  govt.to get on the band wangon to get in the media on searches

Then Beth's realization of a cover up and her determiantion to KICK every door down to get to the truth no matter how high in the Govt. the door is.

And my/our resolve to stay with Beth in this ... however I/we are able to contribute until the TRUTH comes Forward ...
Natalee's family has answers and  Justice is served

JMO

SYB


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 11:40:02 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Oldfart  - there's virtually no color in your original avatar so it's hard to add color to it and keep it animated. I can add it unanimated to an animated background though.  :wink:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/OFfireworks1.gif)


Oh Klass, That's terrific!
You're not going to let him use that face, are you?
If I can get out voted for my Munster Dance, then I veto that face!!! :shock:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 26, 2006, 11:41:55 PM
Hi Monkeys! The Avatars look great. While I was typing this, they just broke into the news here, Gerald Ford died today.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 11:46:16 PM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Hi Monkeys! The Avatars look great. While I was typing this, they just broke into the news here, Gerald Ford died today.


I just heard that, Elaine. He seemed like a nice man. He was 93 years old.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 11:47:31 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Oldfart  - there's virtually no color in your original avatar so it's hard to add color to it and keep it animated. I can add it unanimated to an animated background though.  :wink:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/OFfireworks1.gif)


Oh Klass, That's terrific!
You're not going to let him use that face, are you?
If I can get out voted for my Munster Dance, then I veto that face!!! :shock:  :lol:

I didn't mind your "Munster Dance" and I certainly don't mind Oldfart's face.  That's his original avatar and what I know him by.   :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 26, 2006, 11:47:40 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "Elaine"
Hi Monkeys! The Avatars look great. While I was typing this, they just broke into the news here, Gerald Ford died today.


I just heard that, Elaine. He seemed like a nice man. He was 93 years old.
Yikes, yes he sure was, wowsa!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 11:49:14 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Oldfart  - there's virtually no color in your original avatar so it's hard to add color to it and keep it animated. I can add it unanimated to an animated background though.  :wink:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/OFfireworks1.gif)


Oh Klass, That's terrific!
You're not going to let him use that face, are you?
If I can get out voted for my Munster Dance, then I veto that face!!! :shock:  :lol:

I didn't mind your "Munster Dance" and I certainly don't mind Oldfart's face.  That's his original avatar and what I know him by.   :wink:


I'm trying to kid him, Klaas..............
I'd love OF even with a face only a MaMa could love.  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 26, 2006, 11:51:07 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Oldfart  - there's virtually no color in your original avatar so it's hard to add color to it and keep it animated. I can add it unanimated to an animated background though.  :wink:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/OFfireworks1.gif)


Oh Klass, That's terrific!
You're not going to let him use that face, are you?
If I can get out voted for my Munster Dance, then I veto that face!!! :shock:  :lol:

I didn't mind your "Munster Dance" and I certainly don't mind Oldfart's face.  That's his original avatar and what I know him by.   :wink:
LOL! :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 11:51:24 PM
Isn't Ford's son a newscaster?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 26, 2006, 11:52:22 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Isn't Ford's son a newscaster?

I know one of his sons was an actor.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 11:54:22 PM
Former President Ford Dies
 
Dec 26, 11:59 PM (ET)

LOS ANGELES (AP) - Gerald R. Ford, who picked up the pieces of Richard Nixon's scandal-shattered White House as the 38th and only unelected president in America's history, has died, his wife, Betty, said Tuesday. He was 93.

Ford had battled pneumonia in January 2006 and underwent two heart treatments - including an angioplasty - in August at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn.

He was the longest living president, followed by Ronald Reagan, who also died at 93. Ford had been living at his desert home in Rancho Mirage, Calif., about 130 miles east of Los Angeles.

Ford was an accidental president, Nixon's hand-picked successor, a man of much political experience who had never run on a national ticket. He was as open and straight-forward as Nixon was tightly-controlled and conspiratorial.
 
Ford was an accidental president, Nixon's hand-picked successor, a man of much political experience who had never run on a national ticket. He was as open and straight-forward as Nixon was tightly controlled and conspiratorial.

He took office minutes after Nixon flew off into exile and declared "our long national nightmare is over." But he revived the debate a month later by granting Nixon a pardon for all crimes he committed as president. That single act, it was widely believed, cost Ford election to a term of his own in 1976, but it won praise in later years as a courageous act that allowed the nation to move on.

The Vietnam War ended in defeat for the U.S. during his presidency with the fall of Saigon in April 1975. In a speech as the end neared, Ford said: "Today, America can regain the sense of pride that existed before Vietnam. But it cannot be achieved by refighting a war that is finished as far as America is concerned." Evoking Abraham Lincoln, he said it was time to "look forward to an agenda for the future, to unify, to bind up the nation's wounds."

Ford also earned a place in the history books as the first unelected vice president, chosen by Nixon to replace Spiro Agnew who also was forced from office by scandal.

He was in the White House only 895 days, but changed it more than it changed him.

Even after two women tried separately to kill him, the presidency of Jerry Ford remained open and plain.

Not imperial. Not reclusive. And, of greatest satisfaction to a nation numbed by Watergate, not dishonest.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 11:54:35 PM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Isn't Ford's son a newscaster?

I know one of his sons was an actor.


Really San? I didn't know that. I wonder how many kids he had. Betty had a facelift, right? Seems like she was one of the first to be open about it. Mom thought that was Great!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 26, 2006, 11:55:16 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Isn't Ford's son a newscaster?

Sure you aren't thinking of Reagan's son?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 26, 2006, 11:56:51 PM
Jerry from Aruba.... is he Steve Croes brother?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 26, 2006, 11:58:23 PM
Sorry, I got lost watching the news on Gerald Ford. So has CBB gotten over her 'tude yet?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 26, 2006, 11:58:35 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Isn't Ford's son a newscaster?

I know one of his sons was an actor.


Really San? I didn't know that. I wonder how many kids he had. Betty had a facelift, right? Seems like she was one of the first to be open about it. Mom thought that was Great!
She also started The Betty Ford Center, which is I beleive a rehab for alcoholics.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 26, 2006, 11:58:56 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Isn't Ford's son a newscaster?

Sure you aren't thinking of Reagan's son?


No, I'm not sure. I do know Regan has a son that narrates dog shows, and I think an adopted son who is a newscaster, right? I'm going to have to look this stuff up. I'm confused. ( now, that's a surprise, isn't it? )  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on December 26, 2006, 11:59:09 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Oldfart  - there's virtually no color in your original avatar so it's hard to add color to it and keep it animated. I can add it unanimated to an animated background though.  :wink:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/OFfireworks1.gif)


Oh Klass, That's terrific!
You're not going to let him use that face, are you?
If I can get out voted for my Munster Dance, then I veto that face!!! :shock:  :lol:

Klaasend
Thank You ..  this will be great for the New Years change over !!

CBB all I can say is
 :shock: (http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/Sob.gif)(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/OldF/ae391157.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 12:00:16 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Sorry, I got lost watching the news on Gerald Ford. So has CBB gotten over her 'tude yet?


ME??? Lala's you are too cute!  :wink: Love the glasses!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 27, 2006, 12:00:56 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Isn't Ford's son a newscaster?

I know one of his sons was an actor.


Really San? I didn't know that. I wonder how many kids he had. Betty had a facelift, right? Seems like she was one of the first to be open about it. Mom thought that was Great!

Here is some info in him.  His name is Steven Ford.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Ford


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 27, 2006, 12:01:01 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Sorry, I got lost watching the news on Gerald Ford. So has CBB gotten over her 'tude yet?


ME??? Lala's you are too cute!  :wink: Love the glasses!


Does it hurt to hold your leg like that?  :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 12:02:26 AM
But OF! I did all that just for you!  :wink:

Lala's, smartasses come in "cute", you know.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 27, 2006, 12:03:09 AM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Isn't Ford's son a newscaster?

I know one of his sons was an actor.


Really San? I didn't know that. I wonder how many kids he had. Betty had a facelift, right? Seems like she was one of the first to be open about it. Mom thought that was Great!

Here is some info in him.  His name is Steven Ford.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Ford


(http://wwwimage.cbs.com/daytime/yr/behind/specials/25/images/castandpresent/sford-andyrichards.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 27, 2006, 12:03:27 AM
Old Fart
I remember you as the original OF.  You go with whichever one you want.  Pay no attention to the others they are just jealous. I know, I experience it all the time... :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 27, 2006, 12:04:30 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
But OF! I did all that just for you!  :wink:

Lala's, smartasses come in "cute", you know.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 27, 2006, 12:04:46 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Isn't Ford's son a newscaster?

Sure you aren't thinking of Reagan's son?

Ron Reagan Jr.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Reagan


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 27, 2006, 12:06:31 AM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Isn't Ford's son a newscaster?

I know one of his sons was an actor.


Really San? I didn't know that. I wonder how many kids he had. Betty had a facelift, right? Seems like she was one of the first to be open about it. Mom thought that was Great!

Here is some info in him.  His name is Steven Ford.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Ford
Oh my, he was on the Young and the Restless, I didn't know that! :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 27, 2006, 12:06:56 AM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Isn't Ford's son a newscaster?

Sure you aren't thinking of Reagan's son?

Ron Reagan Jr.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Reagan


(http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/041018/ReaganBlue.small.jpg)

Wasn't he the one that was a dancer when he was younger and had a "falling out" with his family for a while?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on December 27, 2006, 12:07:04 AM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Isn't Ford's son a newscaster?

I know one of his sons was an actor.


Really San? I didn't know that. I wonder how many kids he had. Betty had a facelift, right? Seems like she was one of the first to be open about it. Mom thought that was Great!

Here is some info in him.  His name is Steven Ford.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Ford


If you use the same link and click on Gerald Ford in Steven's bio, you'll find the following:

On October 15, 1948, Ford married Betty Bloomer Warren at Grace Episcopal Church, in Grand Rapids. This was Mrs. Ford's second marriage. The Fords had four children: Michael Ford (b. 1950), a minister; John "Jack" Ford (b. 1952), a journalist/public relations consultant; Steven Ford (b. 1956), an actor and rodeo rider;[12] and Susan (Ford) Vance Bales (b. 1957), a photographer.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 12:07:34 AM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Isn't Ford's son a newscaster?

Sure you aren't thinking of Reagan's son?

Ron Reagan Jr.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Reagan


A kook, him and that nutty sister that was going to marry John Kerry until he found out she did not have any money. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Cat on December 27, 2006, 12:07:59 AM
I met President Ford Twice.He was a great man.he gave me an award I really didn't deserve,but I still have.I gave him a cup of water.I will miss.A Sad Cat


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 12:08:35 AM
Quote from: "Cat"
I met President Ford Twice.He was a great man.he gave me an award I really didn't deserve,but I still have.I gave him a cup of water.I will miss.A Sad Cat


I met him, too, Cat.  His kids were a lot of fun-loving normal teenagers.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 27, 2006, 12:12:57 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Cat"
I met President Ford Twice.He was a great man.he gave me an award I really didn't deserve,but I still have.I gave him a cup of water.I will miss.A Sad Cat


I met him, too, Cat.  His kids were a lot of fun-loving normal teenagers.
Tyler, I got my scaredmonkeys tree shirt today, LOL! Hey, I wore it after Christmas, it is very nice!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 12:13:30 AM
Thank you, Monkeys. I was thinking of Jack Ford, who is a newscaster currently on Court TV. He was not Gerald Ford's son. My Bad.

Yeah Ron Reagan does the dog shows.
Michael Reagan is his adopted son that is on news programs as a "talking head" on occasion.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 27, 2006, 12:15:35 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Thank you, Monkeys. I was thinking of Jack Ford, who is a newscaster currently on Court TV. He was not Gerald Ford's son. My Bad.

Yeah Ron Reagan does the dog shows.
Michael Reagan is his adopted son that is on news programs as a "talking head" on occasion.


The Michael Reagan Show.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 12:15:39 AM
Quote from: "Cat"
I met President Ford Twice.He was a great man.he gave me an award I really didn't deserve,but I still have.I gave him a cup of water.I will miss.A Sad Cat


I'm sure you deserved it, Cat. It must have been a real honor to receive it from him.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 27, 2006, 12:15:39 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Isn't Ford's son a newscaster?

Sure you aren't thinking of Reagan's son?

Ron Reagan Jr.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Reagan


(http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/041018/ReaganBlue.small.jpg)

Wasn't he the one that was a dancer when he was younger and had a "falling out" with his family for a while?

Yes he was Klaas.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 27, 2006, 12:15:40 AM
Quote from: "Cat"
I met President Ford Twice.He was a great man.he gave me an award I really didn't deserve,but I still have.I gave him a cup of water.I will miss.A Sad Cat
The only President I ever ment was Bill Clinton during his first term, shook his hand and all that good stuff. This was before the whole "Monica" thing broke out, LOL! :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 12:17:40 AM
Ron was a ballet dancer........

LOL @ Elaine! And did you wash your hands after the Monica thing came to light??  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 12:18:20 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Cat"
I met President Ford Twice.He was a great man.he gave me an award I really didn't deserve,but I still have.I gave him a cup of water.I will miss.A Sad Cat


I met him, too, Cat.  His kids were a lot of fun-loving normal teenagers.
Tyler, I got my scaredmonkeys tree shirt today, LOL! Hey, I wore it after Christmas, it is very nice!


If I get my merchandise, we will celebrate for New Years, OK?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Cat on December 27, 2006, 12:18:44 AM
Well it has been a sad week and it my anniversary.Yes CBB<I was born in April and I have seen a few things,like Al gore create the internet.So much fun,but so much to do.I still want to take another walk in the woods and go to Paris and have a Rouge Vin Du Jour at Montemart.Good Night.I will raise my flag to half staff in the morning,such is life.I met Carter's daughter,and Ford in a different way.CAT,the respectful one tonight.The Blood In The Ground Crieth for Justice.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 12:19:17 AM
My favorite Reagan kid was the daughter who pased away. She was a Reagan/Wyman child.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 27, 2006, 12:19:22 AM
I have never met anyone famous, I don't think.  I guess that makes me a plain Jane among the many here.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 27, 2006, 12:20:40 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
My favorite Reagan kid was the daughter who pased away. She was a Reagan/Wyman child.


Maureen


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 12:20:44 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
My favorite Reagan kid was the daughter who pased away. She was a Reagan/Wyman child.


I always wondered if Michael is Jane Wyman's son.  He looks like her.  Just makes me go hmmmm......


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 27, 2006, 12:20:57 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Ron was a ballet dancer........

LOL @ Elaine! And did you wash your hands after the Monica thing came to light??  :lol:


Precisely what I was thinking.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 27, 2006, 12:21:11 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
My favorite Reagan kid was the daughter who pased away. She was a Reagan/Wyman child.


I always wondered if Michael is Jane Wyman's son.  He looks like her.  Just makes me go hmmmm......


Adopted.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 12:21:40 AM
Quote from: "Cat"
Well it has been a sad week and it my anniversary.Yes CBB<I was born in April and I have seen a few things,like Al gore create the internet.So much fun,but so much to do.I still want to take another walk in the woods and go to Paris and have a Rouge Vin Du Jour at Montemart.Good Night.I will raise my flag to half staff in the morning,such is life.I met Carter's daughter,and Ford in a different way.CAT,the respectful one tonight.The Blood In The Ground Crieth for Justice.


Night Cat. I hope you do all of those things and much more! Sleep well!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LilPuma on December 27, 2006, 12:21:46 AM
HAPPY BOXING DAY, NORTHERN FRIENDS!  


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 12:21:58 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I have never met anyone famous, I don't think.  I guess that makes me a plain Jane among the many here.


Nope, just means you were not where others were at the time.  You are just as special as anyone else.  Shaking someone's hand or taking their barking orders does not make anyone special.  It just means they were there at a certain time in history and maybe they should have been somewhere else.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 27, 2006, 12:22:12 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Ron was a ballet dancer........

LOL @ Elaine! And did you wash your hands after the Monica thing came to light??  :lol:
Yes, a lot! ROFL! :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 27, 2006, 12:22:37 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I have never met anyone famous, I don't think.  I guess that makes me a plain Jane among the many here.


Don't worry, you almost know me.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 12:23:18 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
My favorite Reagan kid was the daughter who pased away. She was a Reagan/Wyman child.


I always wondered if Michael is Jane Wyman's son.  He looks like her.  Just makes me go hmmmm......


Adopted.


Yeah, I know the story.  I just wonder about the truth.  Think about how Michael and Maureen were of the same stature.  Look at Michael's eyes.  They look like Jane Wyman's eyes to me.  He is tall like his father (I mean President Reagan).  Just makes me wonder......


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 12:24:31 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I have never met anyone famous, I don't think.  I guess that makes me a plain Jane among the many here.


Telly Savalas actually asked me, "Who Loves 'Ya, Baby"

He didn't have a lollipop, though.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 27, 2006, 12:24:47 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I have never met anyone famous, I don't think.  I guess that makes me a plain Jane among the many here.


Don't worry, you almost know me.


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: sb on December 27, 2006, 12:24:50 AM
Hi everyone,

Got my avatar switched back from the Christmas version... testing, 1, 2, 3, ...

We are starting to get other family to come into town now so I am in a better mood tonight. Talk about a lesson in "perspective"... I found out today about 2 people I know who lost loved ones on Christmas Eve.  It can always get worse-

That doesn't take away from the fact that I have had a very hard Christmas and you Monkeys are among the highlights for me of what has been a difficult year all around. I really appreciate all of you.

I am seeing tonight some of the talk of baking and decorations die down and some actual Natalee discussion happening LOL!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 12:26:02 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
My favorite Reagan kid was the daughter who pased away. She was a Reagan/Wyman child.


I always wondered if Michael is Jane Wyman's son.  He looks like her.  Just makes me go hmmmm......


Adopted.


Yeah, I know the story.  I just wonder about the truth.  Think about how Michael and Maureen were of the same stature.  Look at Michael's eyes.  They look like Jane Wyman's eyes to me.  He is tall like his father (I mean President Reagan).  Just makes me wonder......


I like movie trivia, and your "mussing" reminds me of Loretta Young's adoption of her own daughter.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 27, 2006, 12:26:48 AM
Quote from: "sb"
Hi everyone,

Got my avatar switched back from the Christmas version... testing, 1, 2, 3, ...

We are starting to get other family to come into town now so I am in a better mood tonight. Talk about a lesson in "perspective"... I found out today about 2 people I know who lost loved ones on Christmas Eve.  It can always get worse-

That doesn't take away from the fact that I have had a very hard Christmas and you Monkeys are among the highlights for me of what has been a difficult year all around. I really appreciate all of you.

I am seeing tonight some of the talk of baking and decorations die down and some actual Natalee discussion happening LOL!


We have been playing avatar musical chairs tonight.  Come on in and have a seat, we are all in a pretty good mood.  You know you are always in our hearts, SB.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: sb on December 27, 2006, 12:27:57 AM
Famous people I have met...

As far as I am concerned, Beth, Dave and Robin qualify. They are famous for being the kind of people they are... determined, brave, filled with faith and hope amidst their personal grief.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 12:28:28 AM
Quote from: "sb"
Hi everyone,

Got my avatar switched back from the Christmas version... testing, 1, 2, 3, ...

We are starting to get other family to come into town now so I am in a better mood tonight. Talk about a lesson in "perspective"... I found out today about 2 people I know who lost loved ones on Christmas Eve.  It can always get worse-

That doesn't take away from the fact that I have had a very hard Christmas and you Monkeys are among the highlights for me of what has been a difficult year all around. I really appreciate all of you.

I am seeing tonight some of the talk of baking and decorations die down and some actual Natalee discussion happening LOL!


Glad you're here SB! I'm afraid we've been "avataring" again, but you are right. Things will settle into the case again.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 12:28:43 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
My favorite Reagan kid was the daughter who pased away. She was a Reagan/Wyman child.


I always wondered if Michael is Jane Wyman's son.  He looks like her.  Just makes me go hmmmm......


Adopted.


Yeah, I know the story.  I just wonder about the truth.  Think about how Michael and Maureen were of the same stature.  Look at Michael's eyes.  They look like Jane Wyman's eyes to me.  He is tall like his father (I mean President Reagan).  Just makes me wonder......


I like movie trivia, and your "mussing" reminds me of Loretta Young's adoption of her own daughter.


I would like to see DNA on Michael and Ron Reagan and see which one really is the son of the former president.   :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 27, 2006, 12:28:57 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
I have never met anyone famous, I don't think.  I guess that makes me a plain Jane among the many here.
You are just as special. He came to a College here at Kutztown University, somehow, I got a ticket. The city passed out too many tickets and the next day the newspaper showed disappointed College students (who Clinton  REALLY  came to see) outside holding tickets in the air. Some of them never got inside as it was over crowded. I felt very bad when I became aware of that.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 27, 2006, 12:31:58 AM
Quote from: "sb"
Famous people I have met...

As far as I am concerned, Beth, Dave and Robin qualify. They are famous for being the kind of people they are... determined, brave, filled with faith and hope amidst their personal grief.
You met all of them, now THAT is impressive!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 12:32:02 AM
Tyler, if I recall correctly, Loretta Young's daughter was fully grown before she knew she was her Mom's and Clark Gable's real daughter.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 27, 2006, 12:33:54 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Tyler, if I recall correctly, Loretta Young's daughter was fully grown before she knew she was her Mom's and Clark Gable's real daughter.

I think her name is Judy Lewis, and she acted on General Hospital maybe in the late 70s/early 80s.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 12:34:06 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Tyler, if I recall correctly, Loretta Young's daughter was fully grown before she knew she was her Mom's and Clark Gable's real daughter.


That's what I Recall too and with all the cloak and dagger stuff in Hollywood, makes me wonder if perhaps Jane was pregnant yet again by Reagan when he met Nancy.  I think Nancy was a very pretty and elegant lady but I liked Jane Wyman a whole lot more.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 27, 2006, 12:34:24 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Tyler, if I recall correctly, Loretta Young's daughter was fully grown before she knew she was her Mom's and Clark Gable's real daughter.

That's what I remember also.  She was older when she found out.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 12:35:18 AM
Quote from: "tcumom"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Tyler, if I recall correctly, Loretta Young's daughter was fully grown before she knew she was her Mom's and Clark Gable's real daughter.

I think her name is Judy Lewis, and she acted on General Hospital maybe in the late 70s/early 80s.


Really? That reminds me of "Mommie Dearest" about Joan Crawford!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 12:35:49 AM
Quote from: "tcumom"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Tyler, if I recall correctly, Loretta Young's daughter was fully grown before she knew she was her Mom's and Clark Gable's real daughter.

I think her name is Judy Lewis, and she acted on General Hospital maybe in the late 70s/early 80s.


I think you are right.  Some of you here know it and others do not but I did work for a bunch of politicians at one time in my long life and through that, had occasion to meet many politicians and it means nothing.  As my DH says, "he puts on his pants the same way I put mine on."


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 27, 2006, 12:36:30 AM
Quote from: "tcumom"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Tyler, if I recall correctly, Loretta Young's daughter was fully grown before she knew she was her Mom's and Clark Gable's real daughter.

I think her name is Judy Lewis, and she acted on General Hospital maybe in the late 70s/early 80s.

Yes she did act on GH.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 27, 2006, 12:37:31 AM
I hope that this upcoming year brings justice for Natalee and her family.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 12:37:54 AM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "tcumom"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Tyler, if I recall correctly, Loretta Young's daughter was fully grown before she knew she was her Mom's and Clark Gable's real daughter.

I think her name is Judy Lewis, and she acted on General Hospital maybe in the late 70s/early 80s.

Yes she did act on GH.


I thought Loretta Young had the most beautiful eyes and teeth.  She had that theatre thing on TV when I was a little girl and I always loved to see her program come on.  I thought Jane Wyman could have been as good an actress as Joan Crawford, had she had the political pull.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: sb on December 27, 2006, 12:38:23 AM
Not ben introduced Tyler, but I have seen 3 Presidents in person, Reagan, Bush peres, and Bush fils, all of whom I have greatly admired and supported.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 27, 2006, 12:40:14 AM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "tcumom"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Tyler, if I recall correctly, Loretta Young's daughter was fully grown before she knew she was her Mom's and Clark Gable's real daughter.

I think her name is Judy Lewis, and she acted on General Hospital maybe in the late 70s/early 80s.

Yes she did act on GH.
Do you remember the character's name?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 27, 2006, 12:41:15 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "tcumom"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Tyler, if I recall correctly, Loretta Young's daughter was fully grown before she knew she was her Mom's and Clark Gable's real daughter.

I think her name is Judy Lewis, and she acted on General Hospital maybe in the late 70s/early 80s.

Yes she did act on GH.


I thought Loretta Young had the most beautiful eyes and teeth.  She had that theatre thing on TV when I was a little girl and I always loved to see her program come on.  I thought Jane Wyman could have been as good an actress as Joan Crawford, had she had the political pull.

Yes I thought Loretta Young had beautiful eyes also.  I never liked Joan Crawford she scared the crap out of me.  Especially when she starred in that movie with Betty Davis.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 12:42:09 AM
Quote from: "sb"
Not ben introduced Tyler, but I have seen 3 Presidents in person, Reagan, Bush peres, and Bush fils, all of whom I have greatly admired and supported.


I love Ronald Reagan.  Although he could be very aloof at times, he could be very much the grandaddy type as well.  It is amazing that some of the politicians who the press hates so much are some of the ones that were the nicest.  Some of the ones the press idolizes are nothing but womanizers and snakes.  Strange world we live in.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 27, 2006, 12:42:18 AM
Hi tcumom and 2njsonsmom! I love the toilet paper 2nj ! :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 12:43:04 AM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "tcumom"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Tyler, if I recall correctly, Loretta Young's daughter was fully grown before she knew she was her Mom's and Clark Gable's real daughter.

I think her name is Judy Lewis, and she acted on General Hospital maybe in the late 70s/early 80s.

Yes she did act on GH.


I thought Loretta Young had the most beautiful eyes and teeth.  She had that theatre thing on TV when I was a little girl and I always loved to see her program come on.  I thought Jane Wyman could have been as good an actress as Joan Crawford, had she had the political pull.

Yes I thought Loretta Young had beautiful eyes also.  I never liked Joan Crawford she scared the crap out of me.  Especially when she starred in that movie with Betty Davis.


Whatever Happened to Baby Jane! I swear it has a gay cult following. Scares the crap out of me too!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 27, 2006, 12:44:06 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "sb"
Not ben introduced Tyler, but I have seen 3 Presidents in person, Reagan, Bush peres, and Bush fils, all of whom I have greatly admired and supported.


I love Ronald Reagan.  Although he could be very aloof at times, he could be very much the grandaddy type as well.  It is amazing that some of the politicians who the press hates so much are some of the ones that were the nicest.  Some of the ones the press idolizes are nothing but womanizers and snakes.  Strange world we live in.


Yeah, kinda like me, nobody thinks I am as wonderful as I really am.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 27, 2006, 12:44:27 AM
Quote from: "San"
Yes I thought Loretta Young had beautiful eyes also.  I never liked Joan Crawford she scared the crap out of me.  Especially when she starred in that movie with Betty Davis.
Whatever happened to baby jane, what a movie that was.. :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 27, 2006, 12:44:38 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "tcumom"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Tyler, if I recall correctly, Loretta Young's daughter was fully grown before she knew she was her Mom's and Clark Gable's real daughter.

I think her name is Judy Lewis, and she acted on General Hospital maybe in the late 70s/early 80s.

Yes she did act on GH.
Do you remember the character's name?

She was involved with Laura ~ maybe an adoptive parent or something like that?  I'll see if I can find it on the GH website.

Tyler ~ Speaking of Jane Wyman, one Christmas when I was probably around 12 or 13, I saw a movie with Van Johnson and her (on tv), called Miracle in the Rain........I was crying so hard at the end....my chest was just killing me.  An obscure movie that was so sad.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 12:44:50 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "sb"
Not ben introduced Tyler, but I have seen 3 Presidents in person, Reagan, Bush peres, and Bush fils, all of whom I have greatly admired and supported.


I love Ronald Reagan.  Although he could be very aloof at times, he could be very much the grandaddy type as well.  It is amazing that some of the politicians who the press hates so much are some of the ones that were the nicest.  Some of the ones the press idolizes are nothing but womanizers and snakes.  Strange world we live in.


I know better than to get too far into politics, but I only hope to live to see another President with what he brought to the office.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 12:45:13 AM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "tcumom"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Tyler, if I recall correctly, Loretta Young's daughter was fully grown before she knew she was her Mom's and Clark Gable's real daughter.

I think her name is Judy Lewis, and she acted on General Hospital maybe in the late 70s/early 80s.

Yes she did act on GH.


I thought Loretta Young had the most beautiful eyes and teeth.  She had that theatre thing on TV when I was a little girl and I always loved to see her program come on.  I thought Jane Wyman could have been as good an actress as Joan Crawford, had she had the political pull.

Yes I thought Loretta Young had beautiful eyes also.  I never liked Joan Crawford she scared the crap out of me.  Especially when she starred in that movie with Betty Davis.


I think she was just as mean as that movie depicted her, if "Mommie Dearest" is anywhere near truthful.  I did like Jane Wyman, and thought she was a good actress.  Could have been a Meryl Streep with half a chance.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 12:46:21 AM
Quote from: "tcumom"
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "tcumom"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Tyler, if I recall correctly, Loretta Young's daughter was fully grown before she knew she was her Mom's and Clark Gable's real daughter.

I think her name is Judy Lewis, and she acted on General Hospital maybe in the late 70s/early 80s.

Yes she did act on GH.
Do you remember the character's name?

She was involved with Laura ~ maybe an adoptive parent or something like that?  I'll see if I can find it on the GH website.

Tyler ~ Speaking of Jane Wyman, one Christmas when I was probably around 12 or 13, I saw a movie with Van Johnson and her (on tv), called Miracle in the Rain........I was crying so hard at the end....my chest was just killing me.  An obscure movie that was so sad.


I remember that movie.  I thought she was sensational.  Van Johnson, oh my.  I had forgotten that.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 12:46:37 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "sb"
Not ben introduced Tyler, but I have seen 3 Presidents in person, Reagan, Bush peres, and Bush fils, all of whom I have greatly admired and supported.


I love Ronald Reagan.  Although he could be very aloof at times, he could be very much the grandaddy type as well.  It is amazing that some of the politicians who the press hates so much are some of the ones that were the nicest.  Some of the ones the press idolizes are nothing but womanizers and snakes.  Strange world we live in.


Yeah, kinda like me, nobody thinks I am as wonderful as I really am.


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  And you're humble, too!  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 27, 2006, 12:46:44 AM
Elaine ~ here's what I found: Judy Lewis played Barbara Vining in the late-'70s, however, as a close friend of Gloria Monty, was asked to be her assistant, and stayed until 1980.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: sb on December 27, 2006, 12:47:39 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
 It is amazing that some of the politicians who the press hates so much are some of the ones that were the nicest.  Some of the ones the press idolizes are nothing but womanizers and snakes.  Strange world we live in.


People are attracted to those with like personalities and character.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 12:47:45 AM
I've never seen Miracle in the Rain. I'll have to put that on my list, if I can find it!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 27, 2006, 12:48:27 AM
Time for me to hug Nemo and head off to bed.  See you monkeys later.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 12:49:40 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Time for me to hug Nemo and head off to bed.  See you monkeys later.

Night Lala's! Sleep well! I'm not far behind you!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 27, 2006, 12:49:46 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "tcumom"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Tyler, if I recall correctly, Loretta Young's daughter was fully grown before she knew she was her Mom's and Clark Gable's real daughter.

I think her name is Judy Lewis, and she acted on General Hospital maybe in the late 70s/early 80s.

Yes she did act on GH.
Do you remember the character's name?

Her characters name was Barbara Vining.  Here is her picture.

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/Sanddrops/judylewis.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 27, 2006, 12:49:53 AM
Quote from: "tcumom"
Elaine ~ here's what I found: Judy Lewis played Barbara Vining in the late-'70s, however, as a close friend of Gloria Monty, was asked to be her assistant, and stayed until 1980.
Thanks!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 27, 2006, 12:49:54 AM
OMG!  Tylergal.  That is my all time favorite oldie.  I love, love, love that movie.  It's just wonderful.  Bring tons of tissue, it's way beyond a tearjerker. Trust me.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 12:50:16 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Time for me to hug Nemo and head off to bed.  See you monkeys later.


Night, Lala's.  Hope to see you tomorrow and hope tomorrow will bring Beth some news.  I hope and trust it will be good news.  Wear your special Elton John glasses and disguise yourself and we will tango.  Maybe.  We have not done that in way too long.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: sb on December 27, 2006, 12:50:37 AM
I'm heading out too. Just wanted y'all to know that I haven't jumped off any bridges today...

Keep each other encouraged! We NEED to hang together!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Lala'sMom on December 27, 2006, 12:51:41 AM
Now, I really am going to bed.  Gosh, now I want to watch that movie.  So good.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 12:51:43 AM
Quote from: "sb"
I'm heading out too. Just wanted y'all to know that I haven't jumped off any bridges today...

Keep each other encouraged! We NEED to hang together!


I thought about you and I said a little prayer for you, CBB, me and all our monkey friends, and even those who never share their problems.  I suspect we all have them.  I am glad you felt you could share with us.  Even with all our warts, we are a big happy monkey family.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 12:52:14 AM
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Now, I really am going to bed.  Gosh, now I want to watch that movie.  So good.


If you can find out where we can get it, let's all buy it as our special monkey movie.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 12:52:29 AM
Quote from: "sb"
I'm heading out too. Just wanted y'all to know that I haven't jumped off any bridges today...

Keep each other encouraged! We NEED to hang together!


Nite sb! I'm so glad you stopped by to say hello! Yes, we'll hang together!  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 27, 2006, 12:53:54 AM
Elaine ~ go to this website: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0507395/bio
Very interesting ~ I'd forgotten about Loretta Young hiding her daughter's large Clark Gable-like ears in bonnets!
Lala's ~ I've tried for years to find that movie again ~ keep thinking it will show up on Amazon or eBay, but it probably wasn't ever put on a tape  :cry:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 12:54:21 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Now, I really am going to bed.  Gosh, now I want to watch that movie.  So good.


If you can find out where we can get it, let's all buy it as our special monkey movie.


http://www.tcmdb.com/search.jsp?methodName=allSearch&keyword=Miracle+in+the+rain&Go.x=24&Go.y=11

Here you go!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 12:56:00 AM
The link is to Turner Classic Movies. I've bought several there. Read the synopsis. Is it the right one?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Elaine on December 27, 2006, 12:56:57 AM
San thanks for that picture! Can you imagine having Clark Gable as your Dad?!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 27, 2006, 12:57:45 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
The link is to Turner Classic Movies. I've bought several there. Read the synopsis. Is it the right one?

Oh, yeah ~ that's the tearjerker ~ amazing movie.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 27, 2006, 12:58:37 AM
Miracle in the Rain

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049509/


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Cat on December 27, 2006, 12:58:55 AM
Night CBB.I am going to try.Pres.Ford lived by 12 laws and never wavered.He was an example to Norman Rockwell,and the living Warren Commision Member.Character does count.Cat


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 12:58:59 AM
1. Miracle in the Rain (1956)
Black and White
A fanciful, O. Henryesque tale set in New York City during World War II. A shy, lonely woman and a dashing soldier from Tennessee meet in the rain late one afternoon, and end up falling in love. But Fate threatens to come between them.
107 or 110 mins.

She looks like both of them, Elaine! Apparently she was the only child Gable ever knew. His son was born after his death. Loretta Young only admitted the relationship and parenthood after her death in a posthumous autobiography.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 01:00:37 AM
Quote from: "Cat"
Night CBB.I am going to try.Pres.Ford lived by 12 laws and never wavered.He was an example to Norman Rockwell,and the living Warren Commision Member.Character does count.Cat


What an amazing compliment, Cat! An example to Rockwell..........
that's wonderful!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 01:01:40 AM
Quote from: "tcumom"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
The link is to Turner Classic Movies. I've bought several there. Read the synopsis. Is it the right one?

Oh, yeah ~ that's the tearjerker ~ amazing movie.


How have I missed that? I love old movies! Thanks, tcu!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 27, 2006, 01:02:54 AM
Quote from: "Elaine"
San thanks for that picture! Can you imagine having Clark Gable as your Dad?!

You're welcome.  No I can't imagine that.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 27, 2006, 01:04:01 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "tcumom"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
The link is to Turner Classic Movies. I've bought several there. Read the synopsis. Is it the right one?

Oh, yeah ~ that's the tearjerker ~ amazing movie.


How have I missed that? I love old movies! Thanks, tcu!

Just have a large box of Kleenex next to you.  Never, ever will I forget that movie.  Now I'll quit talking about it.  :oops:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 01:04:04 AM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "Elaine"
San thanks for that picture! Can you imagine having Clark Gable as your Dad?!

You're welcome.  No I can't imagine that.


Yes, San, thank you. You can see them both in it.

And thank you, Carnut for the link!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Hotshot on December 27, 2006, 01:07:12 AM
Testing 1,2,3.  I seem to be getting the debug mode again.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Hotshot on December 27, 2006, 01:08:44 AM
OK, sorry, just one more test, and I will go to sleep.  Promise.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 01:10:16 AM
There was something that was just so romantic about GIs meeting the perfect woman on their leave from the service, returning to the war, writing letters and then returning home to each other or not.  That World War II era was just such a sad time for so many thousands and thousands of Americans lost in a war, but what a good outcome and great movies as a result of it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 01:10:26 AM
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Testing 1,2,3.  I seem to be getting the debug mode again.


Love the "look", Hotshot!

There are New Year Avatars in the Lounge if anyone wants one. There are all kinds of them on the web, too.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 01:11:28 AM
They are rewriting history on TV again, saying Ford lost the election because he pardoned Nixon.  He lost because that nut Rockefeller was his VP.  No one liked Rockefeller, not even his wife.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 27, 2006, 01:13:03 AM
Just a drive by on the way to the Monkey Bunkey and wanted to say all the New Years finery looks very festive!  Didn't take us long to get
in the party mood!

Only wish in real life all the decorations were so well put away, sigh!

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 01:13:20 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
There was something that was just so romantic about GIs meeting the perfect woman on their leave from the service, returning to the war, writing letters and then returning home to each other or not.  That World War II era was just such a sad time for so many thousands and thousands of Americans lost in a war, but what a good outcome and great movies as a result of it.


The greatest art always comes from adversity, it seems. I think that everytime I hear an old spiritual.
The letters that survive from the Civil War are shear poetry.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 01:14:00 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
Just a drive by on the way to the Monkey Bunkey and wanted to say all the New Years finery looks very festive!  Didn't take us long to get
in the party mood!

Only wish in real life all the decorations were so well put away, sigh!

.


Anna, you are BEEUTIFUL!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 27, 2006, 01:15:19 AM
Hotshots,
I have been getting the debug mode on this site for the last couple
of days as well.  Hope it is not a bad omen or anything.   :?

It is better but had to delete all the cookies and defrag and work on
a few of my own computer settings.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 27, 2006, 01:15:39 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
There was something that was just so romantic about GIs meeting the perfect woman on their leave from the service, returning to the war, writing letters and then returning home to each other or not.  That World War II era was just such a sad time for so many thousands and thousands of Americans lost in a war, but what a good outcome and great movies as a result of it.

When I think of my Dad, who died many years ago, and think of what he and my Mom accomplished, I believe with all my heart that they are indeed the Greatest Generation.  My Mom, and my in-laws are still here, all in their early 80s, and I look at them with such respect and awe.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 01:17:33 AM
Quote from: "tcumom"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
There was something that was just so romantic about GIs meeting the perfect woman on their leave from the service, returning to the war, writing letters and then returning home to each other or not.  That World War II era was just such a sad time for so many thousands and thousands of Americans lost in a war, but what a good outcome and great movies as a result of it.

When I think of my Dad, who died many years ago, and think of what he and my Mom accomplished, I believe with all my heart that they are indeed the Greatest Generation.  My Mom, and my in-laws are still here, all in their early 80s, and I look at them with such respect and awe.


Yes, they were!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 27, 2006, 01:18:50 AM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/Sanny2007.jpg)

Need to go dry my hair, brb


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 01:19:04 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
Just a drive by on the way to the Monkey Bunkey and wanted to say all the New Years finery looks very festive!  Didn't take us long to get
in the party mood!

Only wish in real life all the decorations were so well put away, sigh!

.


Anna, what a beautiful you and how sparkly you are.  I think your dress is made of diamonds.  You are as lovely.  A Dinah Shore kind of stance.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 27, 2006, 01:19:07 AM
Thank you, CBB!  Was hoping to have a few streamers or something
about New Years to be added but think I may just hold off on that, lol!
Don't want to dance eternally!

Here is a little red Betty Boop over the air grate:

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/Avatars/th6863jmm2fzfem9.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 01:20:52 AM
tcu, I think that generation had the advantage of living in a time when ethics, and manners, and respect, for God and Country and Family, were pervasive in daily living. There was ugliness that we have overcome, for sure, but we tossed out things we shouldn't have as we were cleaning up.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 01:21:39 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
There was something that was just so romantic about GIs meeting the perfect woman on their leave from the service, returning to the war, writing letters and then returning home to each other or not.  That World War II era was just such a sad time for so many thousands and thousands of Americans lost in a war, but what a good outcome and great movies as a result of it.


The greatest art always comes from adversity, it seems. I think that everytime I hear an old spiritual.
The letters that survive from the Civil War are shear poetry.


Absolutely.  I think that is one thing about Low Country and Charleston.  You can almost hear and see the workers in the fields singing the spirituals as they tend the land.  I love Boone Plantation and the little brick houses where the slaves lived and I can almost hear them singing when I am visiting there and seeing the roses they tended, the herringbone pattern brick paths they made after they made and fired the bricks.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 01:24:01 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
tcu, I think that generation had the advantage of living in a time when ethics, and manners, and respect, for God and Country and Family, were pervasive in daily living. There was ugliness that we have overcome, for sure, but we tossed out things we shouldn't have as we were cleaning up.


They might have worked so hard to give us what they did not have because they were born of the Depression Era and had survived that and then went on to win World War II and their parents had fought and suffered World War I and then a Depression and their children went off to World War II and they spoiled us because they could.  We do not have the stamina or the will do win another war like that again, and it will be our downfall, I fear.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 27, 2006, 01:24:27 AM
President Ford was the victim of a vicious press who would have
nothing less than his portrayal as a bungling fool when nothing could have
been farther from the truth.  And even Watergate pales by recent
standards, is very difficult to even explain what the big deal was
to those who grew up to the tune of having our technology passed
on to the Chinese, etc.

Same press that today keeps Rosie O'Donald in the forefront and
as their icon and idol.  They share her agenda.  And we wonder why
the Muslims hate us?  It has nothing to do with waging war for that
they fully understand but rather the decline of a culture as a whole
into a slime pit.

Sorry, just my opinion on the press and Ford.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 27, 2006, 01:25:26 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
There was something that was just so romantic about GIs meeting the perfect woman on their leave from the service, returning to the war, writing letters and then returning home to each other or not.  That World War II era was just such a sad time for so many thousands and thousands of Americans lost in a war, but what a good outcome and great movies as a result of it.


(http://carnut.org/bio/wed68.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 01:26:35 AM
Carnut, thank you for sharing that.  It is a treasure.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 27, 2006, 01:29:16 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
tcu, I think that generation had the advantage of living in a time when ethics, and manners, and respect, for God and Country and Family, were pervasive in daily living. There was ugliness that we have overcome, for sure, but we tossed out things we shouldn't have as we were cleaning up.

Believe me, I see every day what you are talking about ~ teaching junior high shows me what is not being taken care of at home.  I'm generalizing, I know.....but I have seen incredible changes just since our son was in school.  Very sad, very disturbing, and there are no easy answers or solutions.  Disheartening.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 27, 2006, 01:32:40 AM
Anna ~ completely agree with you on the press and President Ford

Carnut ~ the photo gives me goosebumps; it is wonderful.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 01:32:56 AM
Quote from: "tcumom"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
tcu, I think that generation had the advantage of living in a time when ethics, and manners, and respect, for God and Country and Family, were pervasive in daily living. There was ugliness that we have overcome, for sure, but we tossed out things we shouldn't have as we were cleaning up.

Believe me, I see every day what you are talking about ~ teaching junior high shows me what is not being taken care of at home.  I'm generalizing, I know.....but I have seen incredible changes just since our son was in school.  Very sad, very disturbing, and there are no easy answers or solutions.  Disheartening.


And my grandmother swore that Elvis had ruined three generations of Americans.  She would roll over in her grave if she knew what went on from the time Elvis was drafted until today.   :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 27, 2006, 01:38:14 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"

And my grandmother swore that Elvis had ruined three generations of Americans.  She would roll over in her grave if she knew what went on from the time Elvis was drafted until today.   :roll:

 :lol:   :lol:  :lol:
I remember when my Dad had a big trial up in New York City ~ he was flying back to Dallas, and was sitting up front with some awful looking young men ~ didn't comment on their manners but was just disgusted by their appearance and Good Lord, their hair ~ it was the Rolling Stones coming to the US for their first show. :shock:  :lol:
He laughed about that for years afterwards.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 01:39:57 AM
Quote from: "tcumom"
Quote from: "Tylergal"

And my grandmother swore that Elvis had ruined three generations of Americans.  She would roll over in her grave if she knew what went on from the time Elvis was drafted until today.   :roll:

 :lol:   :lol:  :lol:
I remember when my Dad had a big trial up in New York City ~ he was flying back to Dallas, and was sitting up front with some awful looking young men ~ didn't comment on their manners but was just disgusted by their appearance and Good Lord, their hair ~ it was the Rolling Stones coming to the US for their first show. :shock:  :lol:
He laughed about that for years afterwards.


My grandmother died at the height of the Beetles, but she would have given her right arm to give them a haircut, but it was still Elvis's fault.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 27, 2006, 01:43:29 AM
BT~ This is the photo that you could not see:

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d79/justinsmama/193-corgi.jpg)(http://)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 27, 2006, 01:43:43 AM
Tyler ~ You don't even realize it, but you're cheering me up tonight. I'm worried about my 82 year old Mom, but you've made me smile thinking of different memories somehow starting with the Miracle in the Rain movie.  Thanks.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 27, 2006, 01:45:22 AM
Justins ~ how is your Mom, and how are YOU?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 01:46:16 AM
Quote from: "tcumom"
Tyler ~ You don't even realize it, but you're cheering me up tonight. I'm worried about my 82 year old Mom, but you've made me smile thinking of different memories somehow starting with the Miracle in the Rain movie.  Thanks.


We have so enjoyed your being here.  You really add an awful lot to our discussion, no matter what.  You have a great deal to offer, so please continue to post with us.  I love your avatar.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 27, 2006, 01:46:58 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
Thank you, CBB!  Was hoping to have a few streamers or something
about New Years to be added but think I may just hold off on that, lol!
Don't want to dance eternally!

Here is a little red Betty Boop over the air grate:

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/AnnaBlueSkies/Avatars/th6863jmm2fzfem9.gif)


(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/AnnaNY2007.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 01:47:44 AM
Justinmama, what have you done to that poor doggie?   :lol:  :lol:

How is Mom?  Is she able to fuss at you guys tonight?  If so, I would say she is well on her way to welldom.


Title: Loretta Young
Post by: IBE on December 27, 2006, 01:48:59 AM
Oh yes, there was the Loretta Young show with a moral then Bishop Sheen. This afternoon 1/2 of mouth had tooth removed, cleaning and filling of a cavity. My jaw has an elephant sitting on it.

Carnut, is that picture from 1962? or ???

I remember the glasses, for sure!


Title: Re: Loretta Young
Post by: Carnut on December 27, 2006, 01:53:28 AM
Quote from: "IBE"
Oh yes, there was the Loretta Young show with a moral then Bishop Sheen. This afternoon 1/2 of mouth had tooth removed, cleaning and filling of a cavity. My jaw has an elephant sitting on it.

Carnut, is that picture from 1962? or ???

I remember the glasses, for sure!


June 10, 1968


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 01:54:02 AM
I just had a little funny to share with all of you about something I remember President Ford calling George Romney (Mitt's father) and saying to him, "George, this is the first time a Ford man ever had to call on a Rambler for a push, but I need some help."  (of course, he was talking about some legislation that he wanted George Romney to assist him with but it was one of those dry wit moments of Ford.  

Not many here will know why that is funny but for those who do, it was just a silly little thing that was memorable and funny at the time.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on December 27, 2006, 01:54:19 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"

We have so enjoyed your being here.  You really add an awful lot to our discussion, no matter what.  You have a great deal to offer, so please continue to post with us.  I love your avatar.

Thanks so much, Tyler.
CBB came up with my little Scottie (frisky little devils, they are), and between CBB and Anna, they held my hand as I tried to figure out how to post it.  I love that he's holding a Find Natalee poster.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 27, 2006, 01:55:14 AM
KLAAS!

Thank you so much!  That is just perfect, just the right amount!

You are on top of this!

Now I am all ready for New Years!

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 01:56:45 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
KLAAS!

Thank you so much!  That is just perfect, just the right amount!

You are on top of this!

Now I am all ready for New Years!

.


Anna, you are going to be the New Year's queen.  Klaas has just made you even more festive.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 27, 2006, 01:57:04 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
KLAAS!

Thank you so much!  That is just perfect, just the right amount!

You are on top of this!

Now I am all ready for New Years!

.


I sure do like those blondes.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 27, 2006, 01:57:08 AM
You're welcome Anna!

GOODNIGHT ALL!  See you tomorrow.  Hopefully there will be some news in the case.  I noticed none of the Aruban papers have updated their online sites since December 23rd.  


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 01:57:18 AM
I've got a question that's been in my mind for days, and I can't give you much to go on, but here goes.....

There was a Senator that I used to think was like a wonderful Grandfather. ( I never knew a Grandfather ). He had white hair, heavyset, and was an amazing historian. Very kindly spoken, and I THINK was on the Watergate hearings. If I had to guess, I'd guess he was a Southerner, but there wasn't a thick accent or anything. If you came up with the name, I'd know it. Any ideas?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 27, 2006, 01:57:38 AM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/threadlock.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 01:59:35 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
You're welcome Anna!

GOODNIGHT ALL!  See you tomorrow.  Hopefully there will be some news in the case.  I noticed none of the Aruban papers have updated their online sites since December 23rd.  


Nite Klaas! Sleep well!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 27, 2006, 01:59:43 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I've got a question that's been in my mind for days, and I can't give you much to go on, but here goes.....

There was a Senator that I used to think was like a wonderful Grandfather. ( I never knew a Grandfather ). He had white hair, heavyset, and was an amazing historian. Very kindly spoken, and I THINK was on the Watergate hearings. If I had to guess, I'd guess he was a Southerner, but there wasn't a thick accent or anything. If you came up with the name, I'd know it. Any ideas?


Pat Moynihan?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 02:01:38 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I've got a question that's been in my mind for days, and I can't give you much to go on, but here goes.....

There was a Senator that I used to think was like a wonderful Grandfather. ( I never knew a Grandfather ). He had white hair, heavyset, and was an amazing historian. Very kindly spoken, and I THINK was on the Watergate hearings. If I had to guess, I'd guess he was a Southerner, but there wasn't a thick accent or anything. If you came up with the name, I'd know it. Any ideas?


Pat Moynihan?


No, Carnut, but keep going. His hair was thick and worn rather long.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 27, 2006, 02:02:13 AM
Pat Moynihan Bio (http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=M001054)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 02:13:05 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I've got a question that's been in my mind for days, and I can't give you much to go on, but here goes.....

There was a Senator that I used to think was like a wonderful Grandfather. ( I never knew a Grandfather ). He had white hair, heavyset, and was an amazing historian. Very kindly spoken, and I THINK was on the Watergate hearings. If I had to guess, I'd guess he was a Southerner, but there wasn't a thick accent or anything. If you came up with the name, I'd know it. Any ideas?


Pat Moynihan?


Pat Moniihan worked for Nixon.  He was a big Nixon supporter and to my knowledge was never heavy set.  She is probably talking about the snuff dipper, Ervin, that nasty fat thing or the big Irishman from Massachusetts that Chris Matthews worked for, who started the Big Dig that almost cost Boston its revenue for a million years.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 02:14:41 AM
Notice, Pat served as an undersecretary under Nixon and Ford, so he was a big supporter of Republicans back then and a little bird told me he still was until his death, and despised his replacement.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 02:15:15 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I've got a question that's been in my mind for days, and I can't give you much to go on, but here goes.....

There was a Senator that I used to think was like a wonderful Grandfather. ( I never knew a Grandfather ). He had white hair, heavyset, and was an amazing historian. Very kindly spoken, and I THINK was on the Watergate hearings. If I had to guess, I'd guess he was a Southerner, but there wasn't a thick accent or anything. If you came up with the name, I'd know it. Any ideas?


Pat Moynihan?


No, Carnut, but keep going. His hair was thick and worn rather long.


Sam Ervin or Everett Dirksen.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 27, 2006, 02:15:30 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I've got a question that's been in my mind for days, and I can't give you much to go on, but here goes.....

There was a Senator that I used to think was like a wonderful Grandfather. ( I never knew a Grandfather ). He had white hair, heavyset, and was an amazing historian. Very kindly spoken, and I THINK was on the Watergate hearings. If I had to guess, I'd guess he was a Southerner, but there wasn't a thick accent or anything. If you came up with the name, I'd know it. Any ideas?


Pat Moynihan?


Pat Moniihan worked for Nixon.  He was a big Nixon supporter and to my knowledge was never heavy set.  She is probably talking about the snuff dipper, Ervin, that nasty fat thing or the big Irishman from Massachusetts that Chris Matthews worked for, who started the Big Dig that almost cost Boston its revenue for a million years.


Think we got our Moynihan's mixed up a bit, mine was a democrate Senator from New York.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 02:16:19 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I've got a question that's been in my mind for days, and I can't give you much to go on, but here goes.....

There was a Senator that I used to think was like a wonderful Grandfather. ( I never knew a Grandfather ). He had white hair, heavyset, and was an amazing historian. Very kindly spoken, and I THINK was on the Watergate hearings. If I had to guess, I'd guess he was a Southerner, but there wasn't a thick accent or anything. If you came up with the name, I'd know it. Any ideas?


Pat Moynihan?


Pat Moniihan worked for Nixon.  He was a big Nixon supporter and to my knowledge was never heavy set.  She is probably talking about the snuff dipper, Ervin, that nasty fat thing or the big Irishman from Massachusetts that Chris Matthews worked for, who started the Big Dig that almost cost Boston its revenue for a million years.


Think we got our Moynihan's mixed up a bit, mine was a democrate Senator from New York.


He was a Democrat but he served in an undersecretary position under Nixon.  Look it up and he was NEVER fat, drunk maybe but not fat.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 27, 2006, 02:16:31 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Notice, Pat served as an undersecretary under Nixon and Ford, so he was a big supporter of Republicans back then and a little bird told me he still was until his death, and despised his replacement.


Yep, that's the one I'm thinking of.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 27, 2006, 02:17:44 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I've got a question that's been in my mind for days, and I can't give you much to go on, but here goes.....

There was a Senator that I used to think was like a wonderful Grandfather. ( I never knew a Grandfather ). He had white hair, heavyset, and was an amazing historian. Very kindly spoken, and I THINK was on the Watergate hearings. If I had to guess, I'd guess he was a Southerner, but there wasn't a thick accent or anything. If you came up with the name, I'd know it. Any ideas?


Pat Moynihan?


No, Carnut, but keep going. His hair was thick and worn rather long.


Sam Ervin or Everett Dirksen.


I liked Pat Moynihan better than either of them.

Sam Ervin was just a lawyer, Dirksen a bit of a stateman, Moynihan was a man for all seasons.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 02:21:48 AM
Actually, I was thinking about a Representative with white hair from Massachusetts, who was leader of the house, Tip O'Neill, D from Massachusetts.

Edward Brooke was a senator back then from Mass.  He was the first black US Senator in the 20th century, a Republican from Massachusetts.  My how the press forgets thinking that Carol whatever her face was from Illinois was the first black US Senator, the one who did not get reelected for her nefarious money raising for herself, and lost the next time she ran, but Edward Brooke was black, a US Senator from Massachusetts.  When Nixon got the nomination, the staff had planned a party at a club in Miami.  Nixon found that it was a private club and no blacks were allowed and canceled because Edward Brooke was a big supporter of his and was black.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 02:22:27 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I've got a question that's been in my mind for days, and I can't give you much to go on, but here goes.....

There was a Senator that I used to think was like a wonderful Grandfather. ( I never knew a Grandfather ). He had white hair, heavyset, and was an amazing historian. Very kindly spoken, and I THINK was on the Watergate hearings. If I had to guess, I'd guess he was a Southerner, but there wasn't a thick accent or anything. If you came up with the name, I'd know it. Any ideas?


Pat Moynihan?


No, Carnut, but keep going. His hair was thick and worn rather long.


Sam Ervin or Everett Dirksen.


I liked Pat Moynihan better than either of them.

Sam Ervin was just a lawyer, Dirksen a bit of a stateman, Moynihan was a man for all seasons.


Dirksen was Howard Baker's father-in-law.  It was his daughter that Baker divorced because she was a bit of an alkie.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 02:23:16 AM
No, this guy asked questions during the hearings, I'm pretty sure, He was extremely knowledgable about History and brought the founding Fathers perspective into the hearings.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 27, 2006, 02:23:51 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Actually, I was thinking about a Representative with white hair from Massachusetts, who was leader of the house, Tip O'Neill, D from Massachusetts.

Edward Brooke was a senator back then from Mass.  He was the first black US Senator in the 20th century, a Republican from Massachusetts.  My how the press forgets thinking that Carol whatever her face was from Illinois was the first black US Senator, the one who did not get reelected for her nefarious money raising for herself, and lost the next time she ran, but Edward Brooke was black, a US Senator from Massachusetts.  When Nixon got the nomination, the staff had planned a party at a club in Miami.  Nixon found that it was a private club and no blacks were allowed and canceled because Edward Brooke was a big supporter of his and was black.


Yeah, Tip O'Neill woulda been my second pic.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 02:25:37 AM
I couldn't swear to it, but this guy was likely a republican. My Dad liked him , so that's a pretty good bet!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 27, 2006, 02:25:54 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
No, this guy asked questions during the hearings, I'm pretty sure, He was extremely knowledgable about History and brought the founding Fathers perspective into the hearings.


Guess we need to find a list of the members of the Senate Judiciary Committee panel for the hearings.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 27, 2006, 02:26:31 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
No, this guy asked questions during the hearings, I'm pretty sure, He was extremely knowledgable about History and brought the founding Fathers perspective into the hearings.


It might have been Sam Ervin, he chaired the panel and did talk a bit of history.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 02:26:44 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
No, this guy asked questions during the hearings, I'm pretty sure, He was extremely knowledgable about History and brought the founding Fathers perspective into the hearings.


Sam Erwin


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 02:27:37 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I couldn't swear to it, but this guy was likely a republican. My Dad liked him , so that's a pretty good bet!


Must have been Everett Dirksen.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 02:27:57 AM
Not nearly as Southern as Sam Erwin. This is killing me, I can't find a roster.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 27, 2006, 02:28:19 AM
Quote from: "tcumom"
Justins ~ how is your Mom, and how are YOU?


She is still in ICU. May be transferred to a regular unit tomorrow. She was nauseous and vomitting tonight. They gave her finnagen (sp?). It was a lot of bile. My lay person's guess is that with her digestive system now functioning and nothing beyond some fluids in her belly, her gut is going overboard on bile production. I held her head forward with one hand and basin in the other. She is miserable, of course. Had to literally put SIL out of ICU area. Brother and sister had gone to smoke. SIL came in while I was trying to calm Mom. She would not leave. I took her by both arms and walked her backward and out into the waiting room. Later tried to talk to her about not going in there without one of us taking her. She insisted that she was helpful. She has no clue that she is as impaired as she is (Huntington's). I'll be so glad when Mom is well enough and the out of towners go back home. There are way too many people going into that ICU to see her. She is not getting any rest.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 02:28:27 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
No, this guy asked questions during the hearings, I'm pretty sure, He was extremely knowledgable about History and brought the founding Fathers perspective into the hearings.


Guess we need to find a list of the members of the Senate Judiciary Committee panel for the hearings.


One thing for sure, Hillary Rodham-Clinton ran that investigation and burned any papers that might have cleared the POTUS.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 27, 2006, 02:28:48 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I couldn't swear to it, but this guy was likely a republican. My Dad liked him , so that's a pretty good bet!


Must have been Everett Dirksen.


Yeah, but Dirksen definitely wasn't heavyset.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 02:29:52 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I couldn't swear to it, but this guy was likely a republican. My Dad liked him , so that's a pretty good bet!


Must have been Everett Dirksen.


No, I'm looking at pictures. Not him. He wasn't as old as Dirkson looks.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 27, 2006, 02:33:07 AM
Quote
He was a Democrat but he served in an undersecretary position under Nixon. Look it up and he was NEVER fat, drunk maybe but not fat.


Tyler~ That describes me! Except that I no longer drink and am now a bit plump!  :twisted:   :wink: [/b]


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 27, 2006, 02:33:30 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
No, this guy asked questions during the hearings, I'm pretty sure, He was extremely knowledgable about History and brought the founding Fathers perspective into the hearings.


Guess we need to find a list of the members of the Senate Judiciary Committee panel for the hearings.


One thing for sure, Hillary Rodham-Clinton ran that investigation and burned any papers that might have cleared the POTUS.


Yeah but Nixon was guilty just like Clinton was guilty, but Clinton got away with it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 02:33:34 AM
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Quote from: "tcumom"
Justins ~ how is your Mom, and how are YOU?


She is still in ICU. May be transferred to a regular unit tomorrow. She was nauseous and vomitting tonight. They gave her finnagen (sp?). It was a lot of bile. My lay person's guess is that with her digestive system now functioning and nothing beyond some fluids in her belly, her gut is going overboard on bile production. I held her head forward with one hand and basin in the other. She is miserable, of course. Had to literally put SIL out of ICU area. Brother and sister had gone to smoke. SIL came in while I was trying to calm Mom. She would not leave. I took her by both arms and walked her backward and out into the waiting room. Later tried to talk to her about not going in there without one of us taking her. She insisted that she was helpful. She has no clue that she is as impaired as she is (Huntington's). I'll be so glad when Mom is well enough and the out of towners go back home. There are way too many people going into that ICU to see her. She is not getting any rest.


That would not be unusual for her to vomit bile.  At this time she probably is not processing the bile as well and yet the body continues to make it.  The gallbladder stores bile but when the organs have been moved around and cut and whacked on, it takes them a time to get back to their normal activity.  That is not unusual at all.  IF she keeps vomiting, they might have to tube her but that is not unusual either.  It happens to a lot of people.  If the Phenergan does not hold her, perhaps they could give her some Zofran before having to tube her.  I am sure they are watching her intake and output and will not let it get out of control.  I am a little upset that they let so many people go in and ot of her room.  Most hospitals would not allow that in ICU, just two visitors for 5 minutes at a time each shift.  No matter how well meaning the visitors, she needs her rest.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 27, 2006, 02:34:20 AM
Goodnight all. Very late and have work tomorrow (today  :? ).


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 02:34:46 AM
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Quote
He was a Democrat but he served in an undersecretary position under Nixon. Look it up and he was NEVER fat, drunk maybe but not fat.


Tyler~ That describes me! Except that I no longer drink and am now a bit plump!  :twisted:   :wink: [/b]


You are being silly.  You look nothing like that.  We wub you.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 02:36:38 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
No, this guy asked questions during the hearings, I'm pretty sure, He was extremely knowledgable about History and brought the founding Fathers perspective into the hearings.


Guess we need to find a list of the members of the Senate Judiciary Committee panel for the hearings.


One thing for sure, Hillary Rodham-Clinton ran that investigation and burned any papers that might have cleared the POTUS.


Yeah but Nixon was guilty just like Clinton was guilty, but Clinton got away with it.


Nixon just went to China, he didn't sell no secrets for campaign money and he definitely was not a womanizer. :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on December 27, 2006, 02:37:35 AM
Gotta tell y'all this ! Side effect of antinausea drug~ Mom said "Someone's at the door", and "Why are you looking at that rabbit?" LOL!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 27, 2006, 02:38:14 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
No, this guy asked questions during the hearings, I'm pretty sure, He was extremely knowledgable about History and brought the founding Fathers perspective into the hearings.


Guess we need to find a list of the members of the Senate Judiciary Committee panel for the hearings.


One thing for sure, Hillary Rodham-Clinton ran that investigation and burned any papers that might have cleared the POTUS.


Yeah but Nixon was guilty just like Clinton was guilty, but Clinton got away with it.


Nixon just went to China, he didn't sell no secrets for campaign money and he definitely was not a womanizer. :wink:


Heh, heh, yeah, I voted for Nixon twice.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 27, 2006, 02:41:47 AM
Speaking of drugs, new report out that Prilosec and drugs like it can cause bone problems with extended regular use. Seems it disrupts the calcium absorbtion when doing it's job.

I've been taking it regularly for 7 or 8yrs or so now, darn sure don't want to have to give it up.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: snoopy on December 27, 2006, 02:51:43 AM
Hi Everybody!!

Henry Hyde  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 02:52:57 AM
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Gotta tell y'all this ! Side effect of antinausea drug~ Mom said "Someone's at the door", and "Why are you looking at that rabbit?" LOL!


Yeah, even young people do that but it is not unusual but it is okay.  It sounds like she has her facilties about her when she is not under the influence.  

Remember that Phenergan has narcotics in it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 02:53:55 AM
HENRY HYDE!!!!

( He was in the House, not the Senate. Sowwy, I couldn't remember ) Thanks, guys!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 02:54:02 AM
Quote from: "snoopy"
Hi Everybody!!

Henry Hyde  :wink:


Like me, Henry Hyde was a youngster back then but he was not in Congress.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 27, 2006, 02:54:25 AM
http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=K000044


Estes Kefauver?

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 02:54:57 AM
Quote from: "snoopy"
Hi Everybody!!

Henry Hyde  :wink:


I found it before I saw this Snoopy, but thank you so much!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 02:55:19 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=K000044


Estes Kefauver?

.


the old KKK guy that got Clinton the scholarship to go to Oxford!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on December 27, 2006, 02:58:21 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Anna"
http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=K000044


Estes Kefauver?

.


the old KKK guy that got Clinton the scholarship to go to Oxford!


Heh Heh, anyone remember Billy Sol Estes?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 27, 2006, 02:58:23 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Anna"
http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=K000044


Estes Kefauver?

.


the old KKK guy that got Clinton the scholarship to go to Oxford!


Yep, that one.  Shades of Robert Byrd in there too.  But Henry Hyde ain't much better in my book and with that will leave you monkeys for the night!

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: snoopy on December 27, 2006, 03:00:38 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "snoopy"
Hi Everybody!!

Henry Hyde  :wink:


I found it before I saw this Snoopy, but thank you so much!

:wink:

Justinsmama  I'm keeping you and your mamma in my prayers.

Hope ya'll had a wonderful Christmas.  I had a great Christmas Eve with my sister Joyce.  So thankful for that.  Will treasure that evening always.  She's fading pretty fast now.
It's ok though.  Soon she will be with Jesus, and my mom and daddy.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 03:04:22 AM
I REALLY screwed up those bits of info, so Monkeys, you were on a valiant, but misinformed mission for me! I'm so sorry. But it was Hyde, definately, and my memory was muddling the watergate hearings with the Iran Contra hearings. I liked him so much!

Thanks again! Snoopy, how on earth did you get it from what I had said?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 27, 2006, 03:05:41 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Anna"
http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=K000044


Estes Kefauver?

.


the old KKK guy that got Clinton the scholarship to go to Oxford!


Heh Heh, anyone remember Billy Sol Estes?



LBJ's cohort of the empty grain bins frauds?  Sure.

/


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Anna on December 27, 2006, 03:07:54 AM
Hugs to Snoopy!  So good to see you and know you are in our prayers, too.

Lots of sadness this holiday season.  But you are right and the New Year is going to be better for all of us.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 03:13:44 AM
Night guys! Sleep peacefully and with a little smile on your face!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: snoopy on December 27, 2006, 03:33:29 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
I REALLY screwed up those bits of info, so Monkeys, you were on a valiant, but misinformed mission for me! I'm so sorry. But it was Hyde, definately, and my memory was muddling the watergate hearings with the Iran Contra hearings. I liked him so much!

Thanks again! Snoopy, how on earth did you get it from what I had said?


 :lol:  :lol:

Sometimes I just have moments!!  :lol:  :lol:

Rock On!!  8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: snoopy on December 27, 2006, 03:34:20 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
Hugs to Snoopy!  So good to see you and know you are in our prayers, too.

Lots of sadness this holiday season.  But you are right and the New Year is going to be better for all of us.

.


Thank you Anna.  Everything's gonna be just fine.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 03:35:27 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Anna"
http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=K000044


Estes Kefauver?

.


the old KKK guy that got Clinton the scholarship to go to Oxford!


Heh Heh, anyone remember Billy Sol Estes?


Oh, I do and I remember Nixon winning in 1960 and not contesting it, relinquishing his win to Kennedy because he did not want to tear the nation apart.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 03:36:31 AM
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Anna"
http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=K000044


Estes Kefauver?

.


the old KKK guy that got Clinton the scholarship to go to Oxford!


Heh Heh, anyone remember Billy Sol Estes?



LBJ's cohort of the empty grain bins frauds?  Sure.

/


Billy Sol helped LBJ get to the White House by hook and/or crook.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: snoopy on December 27, 2006, 03:39:34 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Night guys! Sleep peacefully and with a little smile on your face!


Good Night CBB.  Guess I better go too.  Falling asleep at the keyboard.  Been searching the internet about wedding planning, and such.  My little girl got engaged Thursday Night.  The young man came to us last Saturday (the 16th) and ask our permission.  Never seen a young man shake so bad. LOL  But we are very happy, and know that he will take good care of her.  Course they got a ways to go.  Both will graduate in December of 07.  So prolly around June of 08.  Thought we might take the kids on a cruise this summer, but ppppffftttt I been checking on how much these shindigs cost.........oh my goodness.  
:roll:     8)    :shock:    :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 03:41:11 AM
Quote from: "snoopy"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Night guys! Sleep peacefully and with a little smile on your face!


Good Night CBB.  Guess I better go too.  Falling asleep at the keyboard.  Been searching the internet about wedding planning, and such.  My little girl got engaged Thursday Night.  The young man came to us last Saturday (the 16th) and ask our permission.  Never seen a young man shake so bad. LOL  But we are very happy, and know that he will take good care of her.  Course they got a ways to go.  Both will graduate in December of 07.  So prolly around June of 08.  Thought we might take the kids on a cruise this summer, but ppppffftttt I been checking on how much these shindigs cost.........oh my goodness.  
:roll:     8)    :shock:    :lol:


I am glad you like the young man who will become your son.  I hope you had a nice Christmas.  Take care and join us more often.  Next time, maybe we will not be wound up on Watergate. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Frijole on December 27, 2006, 08:11:08 AM
Wow... Looks like we had some late night monkey chat!  I can never stay up that late!  Good a.m. all... off to work and just checking in.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 27, 2006, 08:30:54 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/Sanny2007.jpg)

Need to go dry my hair, brb

Thanks Klaas.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 27, 2006, 10:26:47 AM
Goodmorning all!  Hearing we might be getting some errors in the forum today so I'm testing it.  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 27, 2006, 10:29:56 AM
msmarples and Anna - in todays Diario - something about a dead guy on the beach and cocaine:

http://www.diario-aruba.com/2006/12/27/


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 10:30:40 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Goodmorning all!  Hearing we might be getting some errors in the forum today so I'm testing it.  :lol:


It told me it was "fatally exhausted"!  :lol:

Hope Marilyn didn't have anything to do with it!!!  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 27, 2006, 10:31:42 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Goodmorning all!  Hearing we might be getting some errors in the forum today so I'm testing it.  :lol:


It told me it was "fatally exhausted"!  :lol:

Hope Marilyn didn't have anything to do with it!!!  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

LOL - I got a fatal error earlier but it's been fine since.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 10:35:15 AM
Why are computers so dramatic? The first time one told me I had "performed an illegal operation", I thought it was shutting down to call the police!

Truth! I hit my knee on a corner as I ran away!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 27, 2006, 10:37:22 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Why are computers so dramatic? The first time one told me I had "performed an illegal operation", I thought it was shutting down to call the police!

Truth! I hit my knee on a corner as I ran away!

CBB -  :lol:  :lol:  You're killing me this morning, lol.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: friend of monkeys on December 27, 2006, 10:43:33 AM
i dunno whats goingz on here but my puter says it is 3:30 pm on Scared Monkeys.....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: friend of monkeys on December 27, 2006, 10:45:09 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Goodmorning all!  Hearing we might be getting some errors in the forum today so I'm testing it.  :lol:



AHHHHH...the answer to my confuzzzzzion...ty Klass..

this monkeys going to the pool.....SUN!!!!  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 27, 2006, 10:47:56 AM
Quote from: "friend of monkeys"
i dunno whats goingz on here but my puter says it is 3:30 pm on Scared Monkeys.....

Interresting because my time is fine.  Maybe there's a regional server problem going on.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 27, 2006, 10:49:48 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "friend of monkeys"
i dunno whats goingz on here but my puter says it is 3:30 pm on Scared Monkeys.....

Interresting because my time is fine.  Maybe there's a regional server problem going on.


My time says it's 11:47, even though it's really only 11:00.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 27, 2006, 10:51:24 AM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "friend of monkeys"
i dunno whats goingz on here but my puter says it is 3:30 pm on Scared Monkeys.....

Interresting because my time is fine.  Maybe there's a regional server problem going on.


My time says it's 11:47, even though it's really only 11:00.

The time has been a little bit off for a while, but not by 47 minutes or worse.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 27, 2006, 10:53:10 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "friend of monkeys"
i dunno whats goingz on here but my puter says it is 3:30 pm on Scared Monkeys.....

Interresting because my time is fine.  Maybe there's a regional server problem going on.


My time says it's 11:47, even though it's really only 11:00.

The time has been a little bit off for a while, but not by 47 minutes or worse.


Well, I'm comparing the time at SM to the time on my spiffy new laptop, and I KNOW that laptop couldn't be wrong.  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 27, 2006, 10:56:53 AM
Time test post

Time for me in the forum says 7:56 when it's actually 8:06am.  So the normal time difference is 10 minutes behind.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 11:00:05 AM
It says 11:57 for me when it's 11:11 here. But that's closer than it's been for me in a long time!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 27, 2006, 11:00:33 AM
Hmmm...my computer and the clock on the nightstand both say 11:11 right now.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 27, 2006, 11:02:04 AM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Hmmm...my computer and the clock on the nightstand both say 11:11 right now.


And I meant to add that my post says it's noon. Hmmmmm


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on December 27, 2006, 11:02:14 AM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
It says 11:57 for me when it's 11:11 here. But that's closer than it's been for me in a long time!


Same here, CBB.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on December 27, 2006, 11:05:40 AM
I just went into my profile and found that it was set for GMT -4:00, so I changed it to -5:00.  Now, it reads closer to what Klaasend posted for her timezone.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: crazybabyborg on December 27, 2006, 11:06:02 AM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
It says 11:57 for me when it's 11:11 here. But that's closer than it's been for me in a long time!


Same here, CBB.


I went to the FP when I couldn't get in the Forum and the first thing I noticed is that the time was right there. It was such a surprise! It was nice. Wouldn't trade it for the cage, but nice.  :wink:

I gotta run, work calls!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 27, 2006, 11:06:08 AM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
It says 11:57 for me when it's 11:11 here. But that's closer than it's been for me in a long time!


Same here, CBB.


So it is about 46/47 minutes off?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on December 27, 2006, 11:08:09 AM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
It says 11:57 for me when it's 11:11 here. But that's closer than it's been for me in a long time!


Same here, CBB.


So it is about 46/47 minutes off?


It was until I reset Timezone in my profile to GMT -5:00, BT.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 27, 2006, 11:08:37 AM
You can either  change the time in your profile or live with it.  I have no idea what's causing the problem.  I've let Tom know so I'm sure he'll look into ASAP.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on December 27, 2006, 11:12:45 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
You can either  change the time in your profile or live with it.  I have no idea what's causing the problem.  I've let Tom know so I'm sure he'll look into ASAP.


Okay, I went in and reset my profile. As long as we know it's off, I'm sure it's not a big deal. If you're looking back for a post it helps to know the time, but if we know the time is off then it's not hard to compensate for that.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on December 27, 2006, 11:15:22 AM
Is Dana's Daily Commentary podcast available?  It's not coming up for me for today.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 27, 2006, 11:21:37 AM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Is Dana's Daily Commentary podcast available?  It's not coming up for me for today.

It's working for me.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on December 27, 2006, 11:25:52 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Is Dana's Daily Commentary podcast available?  It's not coming up for me for today.

It's working for me.


I was able to listen to yesterday's by using the Download MP3 button.  Today's only has the SM Radio & Podcast buttons and they are not responding for me.   Maybe later, or a reboot... :?:  (this pc has Winamp & WMP)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 27, 2006, 11:29:24 AM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Is Dana's Daily Commentary podcast available?  It's not coming up for me for today.

It's working for me.


I was able to listen to yesterday's by using the Download MP3 button.  Today's only has the SM Radio & Podcast buttons and they are not responding for me.   Maybe later, or a reboot... :?:  (this pc has Winamp & WMP)

Did you try the popup?  That's what I usually do for the podcast.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on December 27, 2006, 11:35:29 AM
I just went directly to the Radio Show and was able to hear today's.  It just wasn't working from the FP Daily post, if that makes sense.  

Thanks.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: lexie on December 27, 2006, 11:38:32 AM
Just stopping in to wish all the Monkeys a Happy New Year.  Seems I missed the Christmas greetings... family issues on almost every front. Hope everyone had a wonderful Christmas.  

Justinsmama, glad to hear your mom is showing some spunk, means she is getting better.  

Snoopy, my prayers are with you and your family.  Glad you had some time with your sister this Christmas.

It seems many of us have family medical situations that make us grateful just to have one more Christmas with them.  We are in that same boat.   My mother, who has Alzheimers, had a seizure on Christmas Eve, but has had none since.  She has been on hospice for over a year, and continues to just hang on with little quality of life.  It is such an agonizing disease for the family.  My father's Parkinson's has rapidly deteriorated, to the point he is no longer able to feed or dress himself.  Up till a couple of months ago, he knew us, at least on his good days.  Other days he was what we describe as "partly cloudy".  My sister was there Christmas Day, and he did not even acknowledge her presence.  We are all coming to grips with the fact that this is probably our last Christmas with either of them.  Hard, but we know they will be together in a better place... They had their 55th anniversary this past April.  

While family obligations may keep me from posting as much as I would like, I will continue to read as I can, and will be here for Natalee's family until they get answers.  Thanks for bringing the news into the forum for those of us who lurk a lot.

I may not post much, but I sincerely appreciate the monkey family.  I always draw strength from the sharing that goes on here.  Thank you all for that.  We all came here for Natalee, and we stay for Natalee's family... but we have come to mean a great deal to each other.  

I wish for each of you a New Year rich in blessings, and, for Natalee's family answers and closure.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: mishy on December 27, 2006, 11:47:36 AM
Good morning, monkey loves. I just finished reading the prayer thread and a few others in the monkey lounge and thought I'd pop in and say hello. I'm trying out a new avatar that might be easy for someone to spiff up for New Years, if anybody has time  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

My thoughts and prayers are with you all!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: mishy on December 27, 2006, 11:52:11 AM
well, I'm not thrilled with this avatar, nor can I get the graphic to work in my siggy line...Klaas, what am I doing wrong?

BTW, I love everyone's New Year's avatars...Just saw San's, it's adorable!!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 27, 2006, 11:53:47 AM
Quote from: "mishy"
well, I'm not thrilled with this avatar, nor can I get the graphic to work in my siggy line...Klaas, what am I doing wrong?

BTW, I love everyone's New Year's avatars...Just saw San's, it's adorable!!!!!


The IMG tag on the right in your sig line needs to look like this:

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Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 27, 2006, 11:58:34 AM
I tried putting a animation in my signature line last night and it didn't work for me.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 27, 2006, 11:59:03 AM
Quote from: "San"
I tried putting a animation in my signature line last night and it didn't work for me.


OK now it worked :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 27, 2006, 12:00:13 PM
17 more posts until page 50.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 27, 2006, 12:02:17 PM
OK who is going to help klaas get to page 50.  I can't talk to myself all the way to 50.  Hummm maybe I can :lol: .


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Sue on December 27, 2006, 12:02:57 PM
Ok lets get to 50...
HI everyone, Hope you all had a wonderful Christmas and santa
was good to all of you..
Santa was ok to me
1 opal bracelet, 10 packs of smoke and a wiped out ankle  that is a good haul I guess..
My Big gift comes today in 3 hours Lasik Surgery NO more glasses
YAY  wish me luck


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on December 27, 2006, 12:03:18 PM
San, your New Year's animation looks great.  

I looked for the past couple days, but the more I saw the less I knew what I wanted.  Maybe I had to shop like Klaas... :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 12:03:49 PM
Quote from: "crazybabyborg"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Goodmorning all!  Hearing we might be getting some errors in the forum today so I'm testing it.  :lol:


It told me it was "fatally exhausted"!  :lol:

Hope Marilyn didn't have anything to do with it!!!  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:


No, Marilyn is too kind and she is the one who is FE.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 27, 2006, 12:04:07 PM
Quote from: "Sue"
Ok lets get to 50...
HI everyone, Hope you all had a wonderful Christmas and santa
was good to all of you..
Santa was ok to me
1 opal bracelet, 10 packs of smoke and a wiped out ankle  that is a good haul I guess..
My Big gift comes today in 3 hours Lasik Surgery NO more glasses
YAY  wish me luck

Good luck with your surgery Sue.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on December 27, 2006, 12:04:37 PM
Good luck with the lasik, Sue.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Sue on December 27, 2006, 12:04:44 PM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "Sue"
Ok lets get to 50...
HI everyone, Hope you all had a wonderful Christmas and santa
was good to all of you..
Santa was ok to me
1 opal bracelet, 10 packs of smoke and a wiped out ankle  that is a good haul I guess..
My Big gift comes today in 3 hours Lasik Surgery NO more glasses
YAY  wish me luck

Good luck with your surgery Sue.


Thanks San


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 27, 2006, 12:05:14 PM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
San, your New Year's animation looks great.  

I looked for the past couple days, but the more I saw the less I knew what I wanted.  Maybe I had to shop like Klaas... :lol:

Thanks 2NJSons.  I found it last night when I was searching the web.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Sue on December 27, 2006, 12:05:23 PM
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
Good luck with the lasik, Sue.


Thanks Mom


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 27, 2006, 12:07:09 PM
Klaas where are you?  50 is coming fast and I don't see you signed on to SM :lol: .


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on December 27, 2006, 12:07:32 PM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "2NJSons_Mom"
San, your New Year's animation looks great.  

I looked for the past couple days, but the more I saw the less I knew what I wanted.  Maybe I had to shop like Klaas... :lol:

Thanks 2NJSons.  I found it last night when I was searching the web.


I, too, was looking around last night.  Kept finding the same things on different sites.  You look very festive.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: mishy on December 27, 2006, 12:08:11 PM
Sue, what a terrific gift!! One day I hope to get lasik too...

Thanks for helping me fix my sig line, Klaas!!

San, yours looks great...I looked for some stuff online last night, but couldn't find anything cool like what the monkeys have been using...I did steal this one from the lounge, though :-) Thanks CBB!!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on December 27, 2006, 12:13:06 PM
Sue, good for you.  Best wishes.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LilPuma on December 27, 2006, 12:13:54 PM
Morning Monkeys, or Good Afternoon to you easterners.  I see we're getting all dressed up for New Years!  Hmmmm  I'll have to work on that.   :D  Ok, so we're almost to page 50.  Getting read to jump.........


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 27, 2006, 12:14:20 PM
Quote from: "Sue"
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "Sue"
Ok lets get to 50...
HI everyone, Hope you all had a wonderful Christmas and santa
was good to all of you..
Santa was ok to me
1 opal bracelet, 10 packs of smoke and a wiped out ankle  that is a good haul I guess..
My Big gift comes today in 3 hours Lasik Surgery NO more glasses
YAY  wish me luck

Good luck with your surgery Sue.


Thanks San

Sue I had Lasik surgery 9 years ago and it's great!  They can do alot more now with it than they could then too!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LilPuma on December 27, 2006, 12:15:45 PM
Mishy, I think your outfit is classy and elegant!  

Prayers for Peaches today - and all monkeys - whatever their needs and concerns may be.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: 2NJSons_Mom on December 27, 2006, 12:17:05 PM
Quote from: "LilPuma"
Mishy, I think your outfit is classy and elegant!  

Prayers for Peaches today - and all monkeys - whatever their needs and concerns may be.


So true.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: LilPuma on December 27, 2006, 12:19:15 PM
:::crouching down, preparing for the great leap to new thread:::

Puma's are really good leapers.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: San on December 27, 2006, 12:19:19 PM
When my boss had his done about 2 years ago they had to test him before the surgery and he came back to work.  He said he didn't know how he made it back because he couldn't see two feet in from of him.  He had to buy sun glasses because the sun was hurting his eyes.  I was so concerned about how he was going to get home that day.  He sat in his office with the lights off for a couple of hours so he could at least drive home.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #565 12/25 - 12/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on December 27, 2006, 12:20:27 PM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/nowlocked.jpg)

Please move to LCD# 566

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=672