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Landfill cordons off area for possible baby search

PHOENIX -- Managers of a San Antonio landfill have identified an area that might be searched for the body of an Arizona baby missing for about a month.

But San Antonio police said Wednesday they were not searching the landfill and wouldn't say if one is planned. They cited the integrity of their investigation into the disappearance of 8-month-old Gabriel Johnson of Tempe, Ariz.

Tempe police have said they hope that Gabriel is still alive.

Spokeswoman Peg Mulloy of Phoenix-based Republic Services says part of the firm's Tessman Road Landfill is cordoned off. She says landfill managers identified where police may look based on where and when Gabriel was last seen on Dec. 26.

His mother, 23-year-old Elizabeth Johnson, was later arrested in Florida and is charged in Arizona with kidnapping, child abuse and custodial interference.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/florida/AP/story/1449514.html

I'm glad it's cordoned off even if they aren't searching at the moment. 

Search for Tempe baby? Part of Texas landfill cordoned off

TEMPE, AZ -- Managers of a San Antonio, Texas landfill say a portion of the facility has been cordoned off as an area that might be searched for the body of a Tempe baby missing since last month.

Spokeswoman Peg Mulloy of Phoenix-based Republic Services says part of the firm's Tessman Road Landfill is cordoned off. She says landfill managers identified where police may look based on where and when Gabriel was last seen on December 26.

But San Antonio police said Wednesday they were not searching the landfill and wouldn't say if one is planned. They cited the integrity of their investigation into the disappearance of 8-month-old Gabriel Johnson of Tempe, Arizona.

Tempe detectives say they are holding out hope that Gabriel is still alive and won't discuss details of the ongoing investigation.

MORE..

http://www.abc15.com/content/news/southeastvalley/tempe/story/Search-for-Tempe-baby-Part-of-Texas-landfill/xgsbK2cK80iD5ZWBC0ifjg.cspx

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2636721/police_build_strong_conspiracy_case.html?cat=25 (http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2636721/police_build_strong_conspiracy_case.html?cat=25)

Some intreasting reading.

Landfill a site of interest in case of missing Baby Gabriel

A section of an East Side landfill has been cordoned off after the facility was targeted as a place of interest in the search for an Arizona baby who has been missing for more than a month, officials said.

Although San Antonio police have been to the site and have been in contact with landfill representatives, San Antonio Police spokeswoman Sandy Gutierrez couldn't confirm if a search was planned at the facility.

For nearly two weeks, a segment of the Tessman Road Landfill in the 7000 block of Interstate 10 has been blocked off as part of a possible search for 8-month-old Gabriel Johnson of Tempe, Ariz., said Peg Mulloy, spokeswoman for Arizona-based Republic Services Inc., which has owned the 1,000-acre landfill since 2008. Officials from the San Antonio Police Department contacted the waste-management company earlier this month about the landfill being a place of interest in the case, Mulloy said.

“With the information (SAPD) gave us, we located an area that may be of interest,” she said. “It's a highly engineered facility, and we can locate where in the landfill items might be placed. Now we're not placing trash there.”

Since the start of the investigation, there was a possibility the child was adopted illegally.

“The information is coming in much slower, and the indicators that were once there are getting less and less to the point of becoming nonexistent,” Tempe police Sgt. Steve Carbajal told the Associated Press. “At this point, we're looking seriously into the possibility that (Elizabeth Johnson) killed Gabriel like she said she did.”

Phoenix television station KPHO reported that Gabriel's father, Logan McQueary, showed Tempe police a text message he said he received from the child's mother, Johnson, last month.

“And you can spend the rest of your pathetic life wondering about him,” according to the message. “I'm already boarding a plane out of the country. When I'm safe, I'll e-mail you the exact location of dead Gabriel's little blue body, if the garbage don't come first.”

While there is speculation the child could be dead, Gutierrez said San Antonio police officials are conducting the case as a missing-person investigation and are following up with all possible leads.

The father's aunt, Kelli McQueary, said he had been in contact with Johnson's family, who apologized for turmoil surrounding the disappearance of his son.

As police continue investigating the incident, the father is planning a trip to San Antonio to search for his son, his aunt said.

Gutierrez said it is a plus whenever officials get helpful information from the public.

“We're always looking for helpful information we can utilize in the course of an investigation,” she said. “We welcome it.”

The father's aunt said while there isn't a set date for the trip he will be traveling with a cousin.

“He's wants to do what he can to make sure his son is safe,” she said.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/82851652.html

Associated content articles are written by individuals and based on news reports and opinions.  The more hits on the article the more the author gets paid.  There is some creative license in quite a few of the articles. 

Nor Rose if they have had the section cordoned off for 2 weeks , why not just go ahead and search and be done with. That would clear a lot of speculation. Or I would think it would.

I agree.  Could be the cost though with only the text message right now as the reason to do it.

Edit: fix quote.  MB





The way I look at it.....he has been missing a month and he hasn't been seen. I believe the text more than I believe a couple in the park. The cost should not matter where a child is concerned. You can't put a price tag on a baby. If he is in the landfill the more times goes by the less evidence they will find.

Gabriel Johnson case: Sheriff Joe Arpaio speaks out about missing boy's mom, Elizabeth Johnson

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2010m1d28-Gabriel-Johnson-case-Sheriff-Joe-Arpaio-speaks-out-about-missing-boys-mom-Elizabeth-Johnson

The mother of missing 9-month-old Arizona boy, Gabriel Johnson, sits in the Estrella Jail in Maricopa County, Arizona, the territory of well-known lawman, Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

Arpaio, who has a reputation for being tough on his inmates, told KPHO “We have her in a separate cell, isolated from other prisoners, for her own safety. She can come out once, one hour, to take a shower by herself.”

Johnson found herself behind the jail’s bars after leaving the area with little Gabriel in late December and finally being arrested in Miami, Fla. She told police she gave the boy to an unknown couple in San Antonio, Tex. during her trek, but prior to her arrest, she had contacted Gabriel’s father, Logan McQueary, saying the boy was dead.

Johnson is now charged with Gabriel’s kidnapping and his whereabouts remain a mystery.

“She’s been quiet, cooperative, not a problem in our jail. Maybe she’s got a dual personality,” Arpaio said.

According to KPHO, Johnson must wear the traditional pink underwear and striped uniform that Arpaio requires of all his inmates. He said she receives no special treatment.

The sheriff also said he is keeping a close watch on Johnson and noted, “She hasn’t been causing any problems, but you never know.”

Good Morning all... thanks for the updates and information.  The phone call Tammi claims to have received Friday night, if it did happen would have been recorded if it came from the jail. I wish they would confirm or deny this phone call because if it is true and the call did happen we need to look alot closer at Tammi. That above article from Associated Content talks of how Tammi has guided and led Elizabeth. Is Tammmi threatening Elizabeth? Does Tammi have something to hold over Elizabeth's head? This all merely speculation on my part but I am wondering what the silence is for. The only two reasons I can come up with for Elizabeth not talking is
1. She killed Gabriel and like Casey won't admit it.
2. Someone else is holding the cards and holding something over her.

Hi Nefie, thats what I was getting at, surely there is proof of whether the call took place or not and if it did not, it was foolish of TS to say it did as it just proves how far she will go to try to sway public opinion and makes her look as guilty as can be.

edit to correct the spelling of your name so sorry Newfie, too early, no coffe yet.

Northern Rose

In the case of Jennifer Blagg ... the landfill was searched seven months following her disappearance ... search for 16 days.  The foundation ... a detective's theory.

I believe that text message that Elizabeth sent Logan is huge and ... in the process of elimination ... the landfill should have been searched at the getgo.

Janet

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March 24, 2007
Dark Side Of The Mesa
Did Michael Blagg Murder His Wife And Daughter?

(CBS)  This broadcast originally aired on Oct. 9, 2004.

In the high desert, on the Rockies western slope, the Mesas tower over the town of Grand Junction, Colo., protected from the outside world.

But on June 4, 2002, Grand Junction saw the unearthing of a shocking secret at the local landfill.

The decomposed body of 34-year-old Jennifer Blagg was found wrapped in a red and black plastic tent.

Jennifer and her six-year-old daughter, Abby, had been missing for seven months.

<snipped>

By the spring of 2002, no bodies had been found, but Michael was now a suspect.

And King had a working theory: "He shoots his wife. My belief is that he went upstairs and suffocated his daughter, got the tent out of the garage, put Jennifer in that tent, put them both in the van and went to Ametek Dixson, and put both of them in the trash receptacle there."

But if Michael had put Jennifer's body in his company's dumpster, then her remains should have ended up in the county landfill. Using global positioning technology and landfill logs, a grid system was set up, zeroing in on quadrants where investigators believed they would find trash from Michael's company.

Finally, after 16 days of searching, they found Jennifer's body. Authorities wasted no time, and arrested Michael two days later, at his mother's home in Georgia.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/06/14/48hours/main701740.shtml

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Tammi Peters Smith
I hope they found something on her computer at the library about where she was looking at jobs. Because she stated that her new boss knew about her situation and was going to help her out...Maybe they can find that person that helped her out...

CBS 5 Is At Texas Landfill In Baby Gabriel Case

http://www.kpho.com/video/22349386/index.html

Gee what a brilliant thought Tammi - sheeeesh.  Keep talkin.

Sheriff Arpaio: 'Elizabeth Johnson Isolated'

PHOENIX -- Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio said Wednesday that Elizabeth Johnson's public persona is very different from her demeanor behind bars.

"She's been quiet, cooperative, not a problem in our jail. Maybe she's got a dual personality," said Arpaio.

Johnson is accused of kidnapping her son Gabriel, and as CBS 5 News first showed in her text messages to Gabriel's father, she can be vicious. She texted that she killed Gabriel, and typed such phrases as "I'll email you the location of dead Gabriel's little blue body."

But in the Estrella Jail, Johnson has little opportunity for trouble, Arpaio said.

"We have her in a separate cell, isolated from other prisoners, for her own safety. She can come out once, one hour, to take a shower by herself," said Arpaio.

Arpaio said Johnson is decked out in the traditional pink underwear and striped uniform. She is allowed visitors, but she gets no special treatment.

When it comes to her trial, the sheriff compared her case to others in Maricopa County where suspects were charged with murder without the victim's body every being discovered.

"You know, I think there's only about four cases in history, and we have two of them. The David Anthony case where he's on death row. We have another one right now, waiting to be extradited, that we investigated here, without the body," said Arpaio.

But until that day comes, Sheriff Joe Arpaio has Elizabeth Johnson on a tight leash.

"She hasn't been causing any problems, but you never know," said Arpaio.

http://www.kpho.com/news/22361624/detail.html

Thank you Northern Rose  ::MonkeyAngel::

Child Advocate: Landfill Search Long Overdue

SAN ANTONIO, Texas -- San Antonio police have still not said whether or not they will search a landfill in their quest to find 8-month-old Valley boy Gabriel Johnson who has missing for more than a month.

Mark Palmer, the executive director of Jessica's Law Now, a child advocacy group, said the landfill is one of the first places investigators should have searched.

"It should have been done right away, immediately," said Palmer.

Gabriel's mom, Elizabeth Johnson, took him from Arizona to San Antonio and did not return, police said. The boy's father, Logan McQueary said he got a text message saying she had killed him and put him in the trash.

Elizabeth was seen leaving San Antonio on a bus to Florida by herself. Gabriel was nowhere in sight.

Authorities arrested Elizabeth in Miami and returned her to Arizona to face charges of kidnapping and custodial interference.

"Once they did locate her, they should have gone back and started looking at not only the dumpsters and all of the areas that she was in, but also a radius that she covered and that would include landfills," said Palmer.

Elizabeth later changed her story and told CBS 5 News she had given Gabriel away to a couple she met in a San Antonio park. Tempe police are handling the initial investigation dealing with the kidnapping, while the San Antonio police investigation is a missing person’s case. The FBI has been involved since the beginning, supporting both investigations.

Managers of the Tessman Road Landfill in San Antonio said they are standing by ready to help police. A spokeswoman for the company confirmed that they are using their expertise in managing landfills to help police.

Peg Mulloy said landfills are highly engineered and well planned out.

“Things are so well engineered that we can hone in on a date and a neighborhood,” said Mulloy, referring to locating a specific cell of trash in the landfill. Mulloy confirmed that waste mangers at the landfill have identified a possible search cell based on information provided to them by police.

Palmer believes the delay in the search could be blamed on manpower and funding.

“That is a very big undertaking, and when you go in there, you have to go through quite an ordeal,” said Palmer.

Palmer believes too many parents of missing children don’t know whether their kids are dead or alive.

“We need to find this child. We need to find the facts that lead to what happened to this child in San Antonio,” said Palmer.

http://www.kpho.com/news/22360770/detail.html

Sheriff: Prisoner May Have Dual Personality (video) 

http://www.kpho.com/video/22362265/

 ::CowboySmiley::   ::CowboySmiley::   ::CowboySmiley::

::MonkeyHaHa::  Tammi is flinging her muck everyday to see what sticks

I do not recall see this entire video so reposting it

Docs: Missing Baby Mom Volatile

http://www.kpho.com/video/22146968/

Landfill cordons off area for possible search for Baby Gabriel

http://www.woai.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoid=790988@woai.dayport.com&navCatId=5

**in this video they report Gabriel was last seen at a HOTEL on Dec 26 not Raymond Russell Park. There have been conflicting reports about the park just like there have been conflicting reports about Victoria TX and I am seriously wondering if they were intentionally thrown out to the media by the Smith's to create a diversion now. 

Landfill cordons off area for possible search for Baby Gabriel

SAN ANTONIO (AP) — Managers of a San Antonio landfill have identified an area that might be searched for the body of an Arizona baby missing for about a month.

But San Antonio police said Wednesday they were not searching the landfill and wouldn't say if one is planned. They cited the integrity of their investigation into the disappearance of 8-month-old Gabriel Johnson of Tempe, Ariz.

Tempe police have said they hope that Gabriel is still alive.

Spokeswoman Peg Mulloy of Phoenix-based Republic Services says part of the firm's Tessman Road Landfill is cordoned off. She says landfill managers identified where police may look based on where and when Gabriel was last seen on Dec. 26.

His mother, 23-year-old Elizabeth Johnson, was later arrested in Florida and is charged in Arizona with kidnapping, child abuse and custodial interference.

http://www.woai.com/news/local/story/Landfill-cordons-off-area-for-possible-search-for/jCMSd_7BLEmAVKI9eKWE_Q.cspx

Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!


Thanks for posting that video Nor Rose...I had not seen all of it before either. It makes me sick on my stomach to see Tammi or her post anymore. I hate to say it but I think they need to go ahead and search the landfill. I don't think Gabriel made it out of SA alive. Poor baby.
Tammi needs to be in a cell next to EJ. They both are dang idiots. No offense to all other idiots.

This report also says Gabriel was last seen at a Hotel with EJ yet the flyer they show says he was last seen at a park.  Where was Gabriel last seen?

::MonkeyConfused::  ::MonkeyConfused::  ::MonkeyConfused::

http://www.youtube.com/v/M7v-TfhkL7U&hl=en_US&fs=1&

'Optimism' rapidly diminishing that Baby Gabriel will be found alive

TEMPE - A source very close to the investigation into the disappearance of Baby Gabriel tells 3TV's Mike Watkiss that "optimism is rapidly diminishing" among local law offices that Gabriel will be found alive.

Detectives in Arizona are working very closely with law enforcement in Texas, according to our source, as the focus of the investigation turns to a landfill in San Antonio, Texas.

The source tells 3TV portions of the landfill have now been cordoned off in possible preparation for a full-blown search of the areas in question. The cordoned-off areas are believed to be the locations where trash from the two motels where mom Elizabeth Johnson stayed during her time in Texas would have been deposited.

The source tells Watkiss that a K-9 has been used to search the cordoned-off areas, but a full-blown shovel-and-rake dig in the areas has not yet been undertaken.

The source tells Watkiss that Jack and Tammi Smith, the Scottsdale couple who at one point planned to adopt Gabriel, remain persons of interest in the case.

http://www.azfamily.com/news/Optimism-rapidly-diminishing-that-Baby-Gabriel-will-be-found-alive-82760752.html

Thanks Northern Rose

The following words of Leroy stated in court documents prior to the text message should have dictated an immediate search of the landfill upon the apprehension of Elizabeth.  IMO

Janet

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Lost baby born into troubled home life
Jan. 17, 2010 12:00 AM

On Dec. 21, in a petition to enforce child-custody determination, he wrote, "When Elizabeth gets mad, she can and will hurt the baby."

By then, she had been away from her home in a Tempe trailer park for three days.

More:
http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/2010/01/17/20100117missingbaby0117

In watching that video I just noticed that the highchair pad is a match to one of the car seats we saw in pcitures. Do they have seats that convert to highchairs now as well?

That is a question I have been asking since this started. They were saying that EJ and Gabriel were seen at the park. Who saw them at the park? Or is this more of Tammi's BS? Did the maids who brought around towels and clean linens interact with baby Gabriel? Was Gabriel seen in the car with EJ at any time like a drive through window?

I think you meant Logan?

I think the second photo shows the highchair up close (not a car seat) because if you look at the fabric on the lower right(behind the chair) you will see its the same pattern fabric as in the couch shown in that first photo.

Yup.

Since I quite my Tim Horton's coffee addiction ... it takes forever for the morning cobwebs to clear.

Thanks

Janet
8:45 AM Pt

Yup.  We had just confused the one image of Gabriel in the cute animal print as being in a car seat last thread.   

That is a car seat of some type. Someone posted a pic that it can go from a stroller to a carry-all to a carseat for an infant. A high chair does not have shoulder straps on it. And Gabe is strapped in. No Rose it may be just a carry all part sitting in a highchair, I have not idea.

No Worries.  I quit my Timmies addiction last summer and my son said I was on my crack withdrawl.  I swear they put something in that coffee to hook you. 

Janet do you recall the NG transcript where Jack says "we have sources how cool is that" or something similar where he first mentions the park?  What day was that on ?

That was right at the start I think NR, I just commented on it last week about how childish it sounded coming from a grown man, He says Ain't that cool.

I missed that probably when the cage was shaking and I could not get in.  Do you know how far back in the last thread I have to go to find it?

This interests me as Tammi stated they bought a new carseat when they were "looking after" Gabriel as the one EJ had was beige and old. 

It was reported that the hotel clerk saw EJ carrying a car seat in the hotel but could not see if there was a baby in there

It was reported that EJ left a highchair as well as some of Gabriel's things behind at one of the hotels and that the carseat was found in her car.
 

If this is the beige one Tammi was referring too it does not look old to me. 

IIRC that was where the whole buzz about Raymond Russell Park came from Jack's "source" Yammi from Fox. 

Good morning everyone. Thanks Northern. And I agree with you darla, I don't feel that Gabriel made it out of SA alive either  ::MonkeyNoNo:: They need to search, now.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

It is the same stuff they put in Meowmix.  Hobo is now gone to where all good cats go but ... she would eat NOTHING else.

Anyways ... the source is Yami Virgin from Fox.  Yami arranged a one on one call between the hotel babysitter and the Smiths.

Janet

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NANCY GRACE
New Developments in Missing Baby Gabriel Case
Aired January 6, 2010 - 20:00:00   ET

JACK SMITH: ... but we have -- we have focused our life for the last few days since all this happened. We`re on the phone all day, trying to find out as much information. We have contacts. We have sources. Ain`t that cool? We have sources in San Antonio with a radio station and -- radio and telephone stations there.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1001/06/ng.01.html

NR I think the picture was on Tammi/Gabriel FB someone had posted a pic of the stroller deal. I will see if I can find it.

Darla take a look at this.  From Fisher Price the SpaceSaver High Chair and it does have straps like a car seat.  Things have sure changed since my kids were small as they were in a wooden chair with pads that I had sewn not space shuttle approved  straps  ::MonkeyHaHa::

http://www.fisher-price.com/fp.aspx?st=2002&e=product&pid=47782&ncat=thumbnail&pcat=bgh

Thanks!  If we saw a image of what the supposed carseat the supposed couple with the supposed wife named Cheryl came to get Gabriel in, then I would be excited.  These are older images and who knows how long EJ had this for Gabriel.

Here is a photo of Gabriel in a carseat that was on Tammi's FB it is a sort of Paisley print there is another one that is a small check pattern and for the life of me I can't find it I am digging.

Good dig, NoRose, ::MonkeyShovel::
More at 6:30 pm this evening...one more tip will be followed up before a landfill search begins...

Here it is.  Notice the one you posted has the head support piece you put in for small babies and this one Tammi has does not...

Thanks Northern Rose - I was about to lose my mind.

Northern Rose that is the deal with the highchair, but the one I saw the pic of Was a stroller , carry all and a car seat. I am trying to find it, she has changed the page around but I am still looking.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/Gabriel.jpg)

I think this is the one Darla - this is the one Logan has posted on his website for Gabriel.

Thanks Mission, I was coming back to post it after I found it. Thanks a million.

Thanks for all the pics, all this new baby stuff. The one thing that really sticks in my mind that Elizabeth didn't hand over Gabriel, I just don't believe that she wouldn't have handed over his belongings. Car seat/high chair, for me that doesn't make sense, but who knows  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Edit: Fix quote MB




Hi NRCG.....That bother's me also. I am just not getting a good feeling about this.

You're welcome Darla  ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks!  So there is some thought that the stroller is the same as this car seat.  I am still lost on how we know that EJ did not bring this with her from Tempe or how this will help. There have been no images released of the mystery couple or the mystery couples supposed car seat they brought to pick up Gabriel in.  Can someone explain why this stroller is important? 

Slideshow: Who's WHo in the Baby Gabriel Case

http://www.kpho.com/slideshow/news/22266104/detail.html

Landfill Site Of Interest For Missing Baby

http://mystateline.com/content/fulltext/?cid=133511

Joe Arpaio Sticks Up for Missing Baby Gabriel's Jailed Mom

While the public seems to view Elizabeth Johnson, mother of missing 8-month-old Gabriel Johnson, as a couple of horns short of being the devil, Sherriff Joe Arpaio says she's been a little angel while in his custody.

MORE...

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2010/01/joe_arpaio_sticks_up_for_baby.php

Child Advocate: Landfill Search Long Overdue

SAN ANTONIO, Texas -- San Antonio police have still not said whether or not they will search a landfill in their quest to find 8-month-old Valley boy Gabriel Johnson who has missing for more than a month.

Mark Palmer, the executive director of Jessica's Law Now, a child advocacy group, said the landfill is one of the first places investigators should have searched.

"It should have been done right away, immediately," said Palmer.

MORE...

http://www.kpho.com/news/22360770/detail.html

Northern I really don't know why so much time is being spent on the car seat and stroller. I think they are trying to say that it is one that Jack and Tammi supposedly bought. Not real sure. I also think some of it came about from that Brian's Dreams. I don't put much stock in what he says anyway.

Thanks Darla.  If this is about Brians Dreams then  ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

He predicted an after shock in Haiti...well I can predict those as well.  It kinda happens after a quake. 

I can also predict there will be an earthquake in Alaska tomorrow.  Just so happens Alaska is on a fault line and there are tremors everyday    ::MonkeyJnBox::

My thoughts exactly!

For crying out loud ...

1.  While she was on the run ... Logan stated in court documents that it was his fear that Elizabeth would harm Gabriel.

2.  There were was the incidence in regards to the trashing with of the apartment and Gabriel's belongings with a large knife.

3.  There was incidence where Elizabeth had left Gabriel in his crib all day ... no food ... no diaper change while Logan was at work.

4.  There was the text message from Elizabeth claiming she had "smothered Gabriel", "placed him in a diaper bag" and "discarded him in dumpster".

What more red flags did authorities require to be waved in front of them that .... in the process of elimination .... the landfill needed to be searched for a blue diaper bag that may contain the remains of a child??

A parallel investigation could have been conducted in regards to Elizabeth's changing story  that implied Gabriel was given away.

Janet

 

San Antonio landfill blocked off to search for missing AZ baby

TUCSON, AZ (KOLD) - Part of a San Antonio landfill is blocked off while crews search for the body of missing Arizona baby Gabriel Johnson.

The 8-month-old has not been seen since the day after Christmas in San Antonio.

The babies mother, Elizabeth Johnson, left Tempe with her baby before a scheduled custody hearing.

She was later arrested in Florida, and is now in custody in Arizona.

Johnson refuses to tell authorities where the baby is or who may have him.

http://www.kold.com/Global/story.asp?S=11896296

Landfill may help solve missing baby case

SAN ANTONIO, Jan. 28 (UPI) -- San Antonio police say a local landfill is a place of interest in connection with the disappearance of a baby in Arizona.

The San Antonio Express-News said Wednesday a portion of the Tessman Road Landfill was cordoned off nearly two weeks ago, but police would not confirm if the site will be searched for clues in the disappearance of 8-month-old Gabriel Johnson.

Republic Services Inc. spokeswoman Peg Mulloy, whose company owns the San Antonio landfill, confirmed no garbage is being placed in the targeted section of the landfill.

"With the information (police) gave us, we located an area that may be of interest," Mulloy said. "It's a highly engineered facility, and we can locate where in the landfill items might be placed."

The Express-News said Johnson of Tempe, Ariz., disappeared more than a month ago and there have since been suspicions the child may have been adopted illegally.

San Antonio police spokeswoman Sandy Gutierrez said authorities are open to any information regarding the child's whereabouts.

"We're always looking for helpful information we can utilize in the course of an investigation," Gutierrez said. "We welcome it."

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2010/01/28/Landfill-may-help-solve-missing-baby-case/UPI-37311264707403/

IIRC ....Brian changed the dates on some of his dreams in the Caylee Case. I posted over on Logan's site about Brian and that he might benefit from one of Tammi's treatments. Most of what he comes up with has already been discussed. He has some over there going crazy about a gift card and that either EJ used it at the babies are us stores in SA or the couple she gave Gabriel to used one to buy the stroller and car seat. They are trying to find who used the gift card.

They need to go ahead and search the landfill and be done with it. It has been a month and it is obvious that no one is going to come forward and say they have him.

I agree Darla - although I have always held on to the hope that Gabriel is alive my optimism is beginning to dwindle especially seeing as no one has come forward and LE has virtually said nothing in this case - no updates - no nothing........and in the article above they state they welcome information - that is ok but heck what about the information they do have??  Phone records, DNA in the car, contents of the car, GPS etc....perhaps if they would at least share something it might help.  Frustrating.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree, please go ahead and search, I realize it is costly and such, but if this little baby is in there, he deserves to be found and buried properly  ::MonkeyAngel::

no rose colored glasses

Without the body of little Gabriel ... in all probability .... justice will not prevail.  All the red flags in the world waving in the direction of the suspect ... person of interest ... are not enough.

Think about it.  Josh Powell is still a free man.  Misty Croslin has yet to be charged accordingly in the disappearance of Hayleigh.  Drew Peterson has yet to be charged charged accordingly in the disappearance of Stacy.  Joran van der Sloot is still a free man and ... almost five years have past since the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.  The list goes on and on.  The rights of the victim are overshadowed by the manipulation of the justice system by the defence ... the manipulation of the jsutice system that allows preps to get away with murder.

 ::MonkeyMad::

Janet

You make a good point - it is amazing at how easy it is to get away with murder, all you have to do is keep your mouth shut and not say a word.  Unbelievable  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hello everyone. Just wanted to drob by to check if there is anything new, was hoping Tammi would be in jail but no such luck. Not feeling well today at all so I am laying low.

Speaking of dreams, lol. I did want to tell you though last night I had a wonderful dream about Baby Gabriel. I walked into a room and there he was, crawling on the floor looking as happy as can be. I scooped him up and gave him a big hug and turned to take him home. No matter how this turns out, if he is alive or not, I pray one day that really does happen, someone finds him and brings him back to his father..

Keep up the good work everyone!

The list does go on and on, and it is beyond frustrating.  ::MonkeyMad::

  ::MonkeyAngel::Hope you feel better

What a wonderful dream.  I hope you feel better Tracygirl - I am thinking about you   ::MonkeyAngel::

Tracygirl....hope you get to feeling better soon. Prayers for you.
And yes that was a wonderful dream. I pray he is still alive, but I am fast losing hope.

Feel better Tracygirl ::MonkeyAngel::

I agree with you all, our justice system has become too flawed. The criminals have more rights than the victims. We need better training for LE, it is way to lax and people are walking away because of technicalities or because they choose to keep their mouth shut. I take a look at someone like Lyons and ask myself what is her beef with life and justice? Elizabeth said she killed Gabriel, has tried to illegally give him away earlier to Tammi Smith, neglected him, and has shown that she is prone to violence and outburts. I say charge her with murder, until she can prove that he is alive. They need to haul Tammi in as well. Time for these two ladies to tell the truth.

So sorry to hear you are not felling well.   ::MonkeyAngel::  What a wonderful dream and I pray that he is found and taken back to Logan.   ::MonkeyAngel::

The problem is that people believe in the "presumption of innocence" - really is it an assumption of innocence until there is proof otherwise. I think that in too many cases there is lots of proof that strongly says a person is guilty but people want to hang their had on presumption of innocence. It really comes down to the fact that good people are way to wimpy - more good people need to stand up for what is right and the bad ones will back down.

http://www.azfamily.com/news/Optimism-rapidly-diminishing-that-Baby-Gabriel-will-be-found-alive-82760752.html

"The source tells Watkiss that a K-9 has been used to search the cordoned-off areas, but a full-blown shovel-and-rake dig in the areas has not yet been undertaken.

The source tells Watkiss that Jack and Tammi Smith, the Scottsdale couple who at one point planned to adopt Gabriel, remain persons of interest in the case."

(Mike Watkiss is from 3TV)

The above are the last two sentences from the article contained at the link.

Apparently they have been using the K-9 for search. There haven't been any reports of anything found, or at least made public. I believe the K-9 units can be trained to specifically smell the scent of a corpse. (K-9 units can be trained in other specialty areas, too) I hope the reason they haven't made any public reports is because they haven't found anything. Now since this began about two weeks ago, that would mean that the "sniff search" started almost three weeks or 19 or 20 days from the date of when Gabriel went missing. Then there may have been additional garbage placed there during that time?

The last sentence is good, "Jack and Tammi Smith remain persons of interest in the case". 

When Elizabeth went to court she was charged with: kidnapping, child abuse, custodial interference and she plead "Not Guilty". But was not charged with "conspiracy to commit custodial interference", as some reports were stating.

This leads me to believe that the police are still pursuing more evidence against Tammi and Jack Smith. It looks like when there is enough evidence this charge will be levied against Elizabeth and the Smiths.  This would hopefully keep it from being dismissed as a lesser charge if they had charged her with this along with the other three charges. 


I was wondering where did #1 go? I still see #2 and #3 for posting?
Is it possible to quote from #1 or #2 onto #3 or a locked "category" to the current category?

Temp Police

Contact numbers and emails

http://www.tempe.gov/POLICE/contact_us.htm

Tracygirl and Darla

 ::MonkeyAngel::

Janet

Good Night All

 ::MonkeyBike::

Janet
8:45 PM PT

lillyfinn:

Thread #1 is in the Missing Persons - High Profile - Archive: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=42.0 
Thread #2 is now locked and cannot be posted in, but you can go there and read.  We are currently posting in thread #3.  We leave the previous thread (in this case, #2) to make it easy to go back and look and refer to, even though you can't post in it.  When we reach 100 posts in thread #3, we will change over to the next thread #4, and 3 will be locked.  And then thread #2 will be moved to the archives.  And so on. 

Handwriting analyst on major players in Baby Gabriel case  (Video)

3TV took court documents and public records filed in family court to a handwriting analyst to see what she could tell 3TV about three of the major players in the Baby Gabriel disappearance case.

http://www.azfamily.com/video/featured-videos/Handwriting-analyst-on-major-players-in-Baby-Gabriel-case-83001462.html

This video states that Tammi has hired high profile attorney Mike Kimmer (sp)

I messed up his last name but good!

I think it is supposed to be Michael D. Kimerer
Areas of Practice:
Criminal Defense Law
Environmental Law
Government Agencies
Government Contracts
Health Care & Hospitalization
White Collar Crime
http://www.statelawyers.com/Lawyer/Profile.cfm/AttorneyID:226425

Profile
Michael D. Kimerer, a founding partner of Kimerer & Derrick, P.C., has been a criminal defense practitioner for over 30 years and is admitted to practice in state and federal courts in Arizona and California, as well as before the U.S. Supreme Court. He is Certified as a criminal law specialist by the State Board of Arizona and is a Fellow of the American Board of Criminal Lawyers. His work has included the representation of corporate executives and defendants in high-profile murder cases. Mr. Kimerer is a past President of the State Bar of Arizona, the American Board of Criminal Lawyers, and Arizona Attorneys for Criminal Justice. He has been a speaker at numerous seminars on criminal law and was an Adjunct Professor of Law at Arizona State University.

http://www.superlawyers.com/arizona/lawyer/Michael-D-Kimerer/60b4caba-c875-48fd-9758-674272f96aca.html

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Tammi Peters Smith
Her attorney advised her to be silent to the media...that's why none of us hear anything!!! Horrible i know...It scares me as to why her attorney's silence her. Do they think she did do the unspeakable act? I pray to God not...Please pray that is not true...I am so sick over it!!!!!

Why is it every time I read a post TS has made that I get a glimmer of hope that she knows right where Baby Gabe is and is trying to deflect and look all innocent and Godly?? I also get  :smt078 every time I read her words or hear her voice. She is pathetic. JMO

Good morning Monkeys.
San Antonio Police: It's not a homicide investigation

by Kevin Kennedy - Jan. 28, 2010 10:07 PM
12 News

Police in San Antonio, Texas say they are moving "full steam ahead" in the search for Gabriel Johnson. The 8-month old was last seen in San Antonio on December, 26th, "We have some things in the planning stage and will undertake soon in our attempts to find baby Gabriel," said Chief William McManus.

While the owners of a landfill in San Antonio have been contacted police say they have no immediate plans to search the area. As of now they are focused on finding the baby, "If we believe the baby was dead we would open a homicide investigation, now that is not the case," said McManus. Police would not elaborate on what sort of plan they have been working on.

While the investigation in San Antonio appears to be ramping up investigators in Tempe say almost all leads have dried up. The focus now shifting more to the case against Elizabeth Johnson. Gabriel's mother has been charged with four felonies including kidnapping. Police also believe Johnson has help and continue to look at Jack and Tammi Smith. The North Valley couple had hoped to adopt Gabriel at one point.

12 News has learned the Smith's have hired high profile criminal attorney Mike Kimerer. The Smith's say they have been advised to keep quite from now on. When 12 News reached Jack Smith he would only say he and his wife thought it was time to hire an attorney.

The couple has expressed some concern that police may be trying to build a case against them. Police recently asked Logan McQueary, Gabriel's father to send them all text messages the Smith's sent him over the past month.

McQueary is also set to head on his own search later next week. McQueary tells 12 News he will retrace the route Elizabeth Johnson took to San Antonio.

http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/articles/2010/01/28/20100128missingbaby01282010-CR.html

Thank you for the update Alien.

Looks like San Antonio Police have new evidence that Gabriel is alive. Since this was where Elizabeth and Gabriel were last together. I hope and pray they have solid information. I hope too, they can positively connect the Smiths.

Plus the fact that Tammi and Jack now have an attorney. I just wonder how long they will be able to share the same attorney. From one of the news reports, Jack did state something to the effect, "they had built a business and weren't going to throw it away for someone they have only known for 9 days." (meaning Elizabeth)

If it comes out or I should say when it comes out the Smiths were involved. I think Jack will turn on Tammi to save "the business".

I think so too, I think the police have some kind of proof or information that Gabe is still alive. As for the Smiths, I'm sure both of them are guilty but Jack kept rather quiet while Tammi was all over the place, not surprised that their attorney advised them to keep quiet from now on.
 

Gabriel Johnson Trust Account

A Gabriel Johnson trust account has been set up.
People can stop in to any Bank of America branch and donate to:

The Gabriel Johnson Trust
Bank of America
Account #457015122018

Or donations can be mailed to:

The Gabriel Johnson Trust Bank of America
1030 Willow Creek Rd.
Prescott, AZ 86301

All of the money will go toward raising the reward and to help fund Logan McQueary's trip across the country

http://www.kpho.com/seenon5/22370484/detail.html

Good Morning all,   ::HelloKitty::

Thanks for the updates! Alien is this making any news over there in England? Thanks ahead of time.    So Tammi has lawyered up. Lawyers could not Keep Cindy quiet I wonder if this Lawyer will be able to keep Tammi quiet, the only thing missing is chewing gum.  They have had the K9's out there in the landfills, I wonder if they had the k-9's sniff the dumpsters? Does the bus station have a dumpster? Does that dumpster go to the same landfill as the motel? I am praying for an alive Gabriel but I think they should leave no stone unturned.

I hope you are feeling better Tracygirl.

Hello Monkeys, sorry to post and run, but real world issues are keeping me away temporarily. Did want to bring this forward though. I apologize if this has been posted already but I thought it was interesting.

From my BFF's Facebook:): (Tammy's post to a young mother/friend):

 Tammi Peters Smith  She's doing great! How's Salina??? I miss her so much! I tried so hard not to get to close to her, cause I knew it would hurt too much if and when she left. I want a baby so badly. Were still looking for someone out there who wants to put their baby up for adoption. Next week my other clinic will be open, so I wi...ll only work 3 days a week. I will have lots of time to nourture a baby, so hopefully God will send a baby my way to adopt! God Bless you and Salina...I miss her so much!
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March 28, 2009 at 11:56pm · See Wall-to-Wall

 (bolded text by me)

hmmm... she seems a bit anxious to have a baby. I hope LE is aware of this.

Expert: 'Baby Gabriel Likely Dead'
Dr. Steven Pitt: 'I Would Be Shocked If Gabriel Is Found Alive'

SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. -- Dr. Steven Pitt is not directly involved in the search for Gabriel Johnson, but because of his experience in similar cases, he offered his perspective on this disheartening case.

"I hope I'm wrong, but I will be shocked if this child shows up alive," Pitt said.

Baby Gabriel was last seen with his mother, Elizabeth Johnson, in San Antonio, Texas, on the day after Christmas. Johnson now sits in a Maricopa County Jail on charges of kidnapping and custodial interference.

Pitt does not utter those words easily. As a forensic psychiatrist, Pitt has not studied the evidence in the Gabriel Johnson case beyond media reports, but he said some aspects stand out to him.

"You're talking about worst case scenario, child is dead. Best case scenario, 'No, I didn't kill my child; I gave it away.' Either one of those would indicate a seriously twisted individual," said Pitt.

Few would argue that Elizabeth Johnson has serious problems. Pitt cites her text messages to Gabriel's father that she killed the baby and threw him in the trash.

"Every day in family courts around the country, parents use their children as pawns. That said, to use your child as a pawn to tell another parent that you murdered your child, that takes using a child as a pawn to a whole 'nother level," said Dr. Pitt.

That recanted confession, in itself, doesn't mean Gabriel is dead. As the doctor explained, prisons are filled with people in extreme denial.

But he lists the other warning signs: the amount of time Gabriel has been missing; the potential search of a Texas landfill; and the fact that the mother remains uncooperative in jail.

"All of those things are certainly behavioral clues that something very unfortunate happened to this child," said Pitt.

Statistically, women only make up 15 percent of people who commit violent crimes in this country, but when you only look at parents who murder their children, women account for 50 percent.

Whether Elizabeth Johnson adds to that statistic remains to be seen, but Pitt believes it will ultimately be the physical evidence that brings the truth in this case.

http://www.kpho.com/news/22372763/detail.html

CBS 5 News talks to a forensic psychiatrist who is no stranger to hi-profile cases.

http://www.kpho.com/video/22372986/index.html

Baby Gabriel Johnson investigation

Police in San Antonio, Texas say they are moving "full steam ahead" in the search for Gabriel Johnson. The 8-month old was last seen in San Antonio on December, 26th, "We have some things in the planning stage and will undertake soon in our attempts to find baby Gabriel," said Chief William McManus.

While the owners of a landfill in San Antonio have been contacted police say they have no immediate plans to search the area. As of now they are focused on finding the baby, "If we believe the baby was dead we would open a homicide investigation, now that is not the case," said McManus. Police would not elaborate on what sort of plan they have been working on.

While the investigation in San Antonio appears to be ramping up investigators in Tempe say almost all leads have dried up. The focus now shifting more to the case against Elizabeth Johnson. Gabriel's mother has been charged with four felonies including kidnapping. Police also believe Johnson has help and continue to look at Jack and Tammi Smith. The North Valley couple had hoped to adopt Gabriel at one point.

12 News has learned the Smith's have hired high profile criminal attorney Mike Kimerer. The Smith's say they have been advised to keep quite from now on. When 12 News reached Jack Smith he would only say he and his wife thought it was time to hire an attorney.

The couple has expressed some concern that police may be trying to build a case against them. Police recently asked Logan McQueary, Gabriel's father to send them all text messages the Smith's sent him over the past month.

McQueary is also set to head on his own search later next week. McQueary tells 12 News he will retrace the route Elizabeth Johnson took to San Antonio.

http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/articles/2010/01/28/20100128missingbaby01282010-CR.html

Search for Baby Gabriel may soon begin at east-side landfill

The search for a missing Arizona baby last seen in San Antonio will continue Friday.

A section of an east-side landfill where police have been lately now has been staked off with indicators that show how deep to dig in an effort to find baby Gabriel Johnson's body.

However, police are not saying that the baby is dead.

But his mother, Elizabeth Johnson, has alluded to it, they say.

Johnson is currently being held in an Arizona jail.

Baby Gabriel hasn't been seen since Christmas, when police say his mother brought him to San Antonio.

Johnson told police she gave the baby to strangers. She later told the baby's father that Gabriel was dead.

Eyewitness News paid a visit to the Tessman Landfill on Thursday.

Both SAPD and the FBI are keeping tight-lipped about the investigation going on there.

But we've learned from the baby's father that there are at least three teams of detectives working on the search.

http://www.kens5.com/news/Search-for-Baby-Gabriel-may-soon-begin-at-east-side-landfill-83020582.html

Oh goodness this just chipped away a little more at my optimism.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Someone on the Bring Home Gabriel FB site contacted Dolce Salon and Spa to clarify the connection with Tammi's enema business. 

Poster
Attention Phoenix Area Residents: As some of you may have seen on the Healing Waters Health and Wellness Clinic's website which is owned by Tammi Fay Smith (who is currently a PERSON OF INTEREST in this case), it appears that this company is in some way affiliated with Dolce Salon and Spa. Website currently says: "Now ...available at Dolce Spas in Scottsdale, Chandler, and Peoria!"

I asked Dolce for clarification on this since I am a long time, loyal customer. Please visit their fan page to see their answer if you are interested.
http://www.facebook.com/DolceSalonSpa?ref=ts

Poster
Unfortunately my post was deleted from Dolce's fan page AFTER they had answered (which I now have in email via FB email notifications). I will be following up with them on the phone tomorrow as to why. But, I do encourage you to inquire if you have the same question as I.

Poster
I had further discussion with Dolce's founder and President on their fan page. To be fair they regularly delete posts and, I was told, they didn't know how their name and logo was being used by HEaling Waters and intend to remedy that. But, Healing Waters does rent space from them and are under contract even before this started. I did ask them if they would look at breaking the contract. Personally, I have to decide how I feel about them having any business arrangement...but after another girl, Katherine, was also asking about this on their fan page, it appears that they are listening/hearing us! Dolce is truly one of the TOP salons in Phoenix IMHO and I am certain they will do what is right for their business and current/prospective customers. Again their fan page is http://www.facebook.com/DolceSalonSpa?ref=ts

Newfie I've not heard anything about this on the British news but then this case is not as big as, for example, Caylee Anthony's, which was in the news all over Europe and one of the newest stories mentioned in some of the Europe news channels is the case of the lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare. I suppose each country deals with their own missing persons cases and unless it turns out to be a horrible murder case ( something that would get the viewers' attention) they don't really bother mentioning it. I know it sounds bad but that's media for you...

FB

Poster
Has anyone looked into Texas Equusearch to help find Baby Gabriel? I don't know much about the group but they the website is www.texasequusearch.org and they find a lot of missing people. Not sure if they charge or what but they are the ones that went to Aruba looking for Natalie Holloway. Just a thought. It's time to find this baby.

Logan McQueary
they are actualy a part of the san antonio pd they have already started an investigation
about an hour

Interesting - I would think now they will want to keep an arm's length away from Tammi - she is not going to be good for business.

That is good news

SA Police Chief Bill McManus hopeful Baby Gabriel still alive (with video)


SAN ANTONIO -- San Antonio Police Department Chief Bill McManus says he is hopeful a missing Arizona baby is still alive.

Gabriel Johnson has been missing for more than a month. News 4 WOAI's Leila Walsh interviewed Police Chief Bill McManus this week and asked him about the investigation.

"If we had reason to believe that the baby was dead, then we would open up a homicide case," Chief McManus told News 4 WOAI. "But right now, that's not the case, and the Baby Gabriel case remains a missing person case.

Leila asked if that meant there are indications Gabriel is still alive.

"We are hoping that he is still alive," responded McManus.

Gabriel was last seen at a San Antonio hotel near I-10 and Huebner on December 26th with his mother, Elizabeth Johnson. She is in jail and will not tell police what happened to the baby.

"We have been in the planning stages as to what our next move is going to be," explained Chief McManus. "And we're nearly through with those discussions, and we'll be ready to move on that decision within the next few days."

While it is unclear at this point what the next move will be here in San Antonio, police in the Gabriel's hometown of Tempe, Arizona are seriously looking into the possibility that he is dead. They say leads suggesting that Gabriel's mother gave him to a couple here have not panned out. They are now investigating whether Elizabeth Johnson killed Gabriel as she said she did in a text message to the boy's father.

Workers at an East Side landfill have cordoned off an area there where police may search for Gabriel. Trucks are no longer dumping trash there.

"The landfill is the place of interest for us right now," Chief McManus told News 4 WOAI. "And again, we are in the planning stages, the discussion stages of what we might also do out at the landfill."

For now, Chief McManus says it is an active missing person investigation, and officers are moving full speed ahead to find Gaby Gabriel.

Crime Stoppers is offering up to $5,000 for information that leads to Gabriel's safe return. If you have any information, please call 224-STOP (7867), submit a tip online, or text a tip by texting "Tip 127 plus your tip" to CRIMES (274637).

http://www.woai.com/news/local/story/SA-Police-Chief-Bill-McManus-hopeful-Baby-Gabriel/tPKoEF7Bckm2kgjxjd0rFA.cspx

That is excellent news but where do they start to search?  It is like Susan Powell in that Gabriel could be anywhere.

an arm and a few colons length for sure

You are so right - especially with so little to go on.....I am praying for a miracle.

::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

Where do you start, I agree.

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Poster
Buckle up my friend, the devil's not done with you yet....your sisters in Christ are forming a hedge of protection as we pray for you through all of this.

Tammi Peters Smith
Satin can try all he wants, but he's messing with the wrong family! God will knock him back to Hell when He's ready,and in His time...Until then, thank you for all your love,prayers, strength and support!! We're so thankful for all our prayer warriors...May God bless you all!
about an hour ago

http://www.surrogatemother.com/profile/TammiSmith

Here's Tammi messages / posts:

At 9:18pm on December 15, 2008, Tammi Smith said

We actually just did insems a few minutes ago! If you need anything, .let me know. Good Luck, Tammi

The above post / message has been deleted from tammi smith but the surrogate mother's page (who asked if she was still looking, not the surrogate mother) still contains the message.


Wonder what happened with the insems? Was there a baby? Did Tammi "make arrangements" for someone else to adopt? There's no indication on her page who the surrogate mother was. If to term the delivery would have been about in September 2009?


Reply by Tammi Smith on November 21, 2008 at 1:40am

Are you willing to do a TS? What state do you live in? We have been looking for a while!!! My 3 year old daughter is getting very antsy wondering when her new baby sister or brother will come, lol.....I do missions in Africa but they won't let anyone outside africa to adopt! So we are going the surrogate route since I had an emergancy hysterioectomy about 10 years ago (age 26). Please email or call us at (XXX) XXX-XXXX or (her website)

The above post / message has been deleted from tammi smith but the surrogate mother's page still contains the message. This woman is actually a High School Senior and the last messages posted to her states if she is only 17, she can get herself and adoptive parents into legal trouble. Plus she is only asking $2,000 for the service. What if this who Tammi found to do the insems? See above message.


At 1:05pm on November 15, 2008, Tammi Smith said

Hi (name), We are looking for a traditional Surrogacy. Are you up for that? We live in Arizona and have a 3 1/2 year old daughter. We adopted her at 4 months old. We want another child desperately and she realy wants a sibling. You can call us at (XXX) XXX-XXXX or email me at (her website) Thank you and God Bless, Tammi

Notice:"WE WANT ANOTHER CHILD DESPERATELY"

The above post / message has been deleted from tammi smith and the surrogate mother's pages. Tammi must have recently contacted her as about 1-1 1/2 weeks ago the message was still on the surrogates when I checked.


At 9:53pm on November 14, 2008, Tammi Smith said

Hi (name). My name is Tammi and we are looking for a surrogate. Yes it would be nice to go through the pregnacy with our surrogate, but it's more important that we actually have a baby. We would be there probably once during preg. and of course for the birth. please call me at (XXX) XXX-XXXX or email me at (her website) Thank you, Tammi

Notice the part that says: "IT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A BABY"

The above post / message has been deleted from tammi smith but the surrogate mother's page still contains the message.

Also I noticed Tammi has deleted a few of her friends, that would lead to finding the messages above.

   ::MonkeyEek:: I thought they have a lawyer, I don't think the lawyer will take to kindly to this  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Tammi must be a polyester and rayon kinda gal as she sure has an issue with satin  ::MonkeyJnBox::

lilly I think you will enjoy reading through the first Gabriel thread.  This information as well as a TON more is all there. 

Thank you Northern Rose. I had asked back on page 5 (I think) where the #1 went and MuffyBee put a link in her reply. I plan to go there and spend the day :)

I agree, Tammi really does have an issue with Satin. I hope more people keep on her cause she will not shut up. She can't help it. She will go into overload. Maybe even grow horns and a tail and let the world see her true self.

ROTFL!!!! @ Northern Rose!!! I was wondering what her problem was with satin, too. I kinda like the feel of it. ;)

Anyway, I am not a friend on any of Tammi's pages, so I am hoping the message I post to her here gets to her:

"Tammi, it's fine to hide behind God and scriptures when you're truly innocent, as you can be confident you'll be justified; BUT...be well aware of scriptures that promise those who are not innocent will be found out!  'It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God!' (Hebrews 10:31 CJB)."

OMG, I just now noticed how she spelled Satan  ::MonkeyEek::   Just heard on HLN the landfill is sectioned off now and dig is to begin now in 1 section.

she wrights satin like she wants too   ::MonkeyJnBox::

ROFL.. ::MonkeyHaHa::  I wonder if satan wears satin? I envision the red satin with a flowing cape. ::MonkeyDevil::

Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!


If Tammi isn't careful Satin is going to do her in!
 I hope they get started on that landfill today. That Chief just does not make sense. Talking and planning seems to have been going on for weeks now. They need to get their butt in gear and start with the landfill first. That should have been done before anything else. She sent a text saying she killed Gabriel and put him in the dumpster. It would sure have been easier to search 4 weeks ago than it will be now. Look how fast Sommer was found.

Totally agree.  And though I do not hope they find Gabriel as I really want him to be brought home safe to Logan, I hope they do find some clues as to where he may be.  LE said EJ sold her laptop so maybe she used the hotel stationary to write down phone numbers and addresses? 

Hate to post and run but got to make a grocery run and a pharmacy stop. We are getting freezing rain ,sleet and snow starting tonight. I will catch up with you guys in a little while. Have a good day!

Be safe  ::MonkeyAngel::

Landfill search for missing baby to begin

Investigators from the San Antonio Police Department will move forward with excavating a section of a landfill to search for possible remains of missing 8-month-old Gabriel Johnson, who was last seen at a motel in that city last month.

San Antonio police Chief Bill McManus announced the plans on Friday for investigators to begin excavating the Tessman Road Landfill sometime next week, according to Sandy Gutierrez, a department police spokeswoman.

Gabriel Johnson was last seen inside a motel room at a HomeGate Studios and Suites on Dec. 26, according to the time stamp on photographs from a digital camera confiscated from Gabriel’s mother, Elizabeth Johnson, who drove to San Antonio with the boy in the midst of a custody battle.

Johnson, 23, of Tempe was arrested in Miami Beach, Fla., on Dec. 30 without the child. Her arrest came three days after she told her estranged boyfriend, Logan McQueary, through a text message and cell phone call that she killed Gabriel, stuffed his body in a diaper bag and threw his body in a dumpster, according to a Maricopa County Superior Court document. Johnson later told FBI investigators she gave the baby away to a couple at a park and then later said that she gave Gabriel to a couple inside the motel room before signing adoption papers.

“The chief confirmed and conveyed that an excavation and search will move forward at the Tessman Road Landfill, and more information on how that search and how that process will be conducted will all unfold next week,” Gutierrez said.

Gutierrez said that either information or evidence obtained through the course of the investigation was obtained to make the decision to move forward with the excavation. However, Gutierrez would not be specific.
“We have been at the landfill on and off for about a week,” Gutierrez said.

Earlier this week, managers of the landfill had cordoned off a section of it about two weeks ago that was “an area of interest” to police, a landfill spokeswoman told the Tribune.

Johnson is being held in the Maricopa County Estrella Jail on a $1.1 million cash bond, on felony charges of kidnapping, child abuse, custodial interference and conspiracy to commit custodial interference.

Jack and Tammi Smith, a Scottsdale couple who was interested in adopting Gabriel, remain persons of interest in the case because police believe the Smiths are withholding evidence that could lead them to the whereabouts of the boy.

Up to $5,000 is being offered for the safe return of Gabriel, who will turn 9 months old on Wednesday.

If anyone has any information on the boy’s whereabouts, they can call the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children at 1-800-843-5678.

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/150046

San Antonio Police Talk About Baby Gabriel

SAN ANTONIO, Texas -- San Antonio police heading up the missing person’s case of Valley baby Gabriel Johnson said it will be early next week when they announce how they will move forward.

“We're not prepared to talk about that (the case) right now. Next week we will be. But right now we're in meetings to determine how we're going to proceed with this,” said Chief William McManus of the San Antonio Police Department.

Gabriel was last seen with his mother, Elizabeth Johnson, at a San Antonio motel the day after Christmas.

The next day, Johnson was seen alone, Gabriel nowhere in sight, boarding a bus to Florida.

According to police, that’s the same day she sent a text message to the baby’s father, Logan McQueary, who lives in Tempe, stating he would never see his son again because she had killed him and put him in the trash.

Investigators are considering a search of San Antonio landfill. Managers of the Tessman Road landfill have cordoned off an area they refer to as “of interest to police.” But when and if a search begins in not yet known.

“I'm not going to comment on that right now because the plans are not completed,” said McManus.

Law enforcement officials in San Antonio have been extremely tight-lipped about the case. The FBI has been involved from the start in assisting the investigation that for the time being remains a missing person’s case. “We have not opened a homicide case we are still considering it as a missing person case,” said McManus.

http://www.kpho.com/news/22382259/detail.html

Police tight-lipped about Baby Gabriel investigation (Video)

San Antonio police are remaining largely tight lipped about the search for Baby Gabriel.

But earlier Friday, at a press conference meant for Mothers Against Drunk Driving, Chief William McManus broke trend and shed a bit of light on the investigation.

The chief declined to comment on plans to search for Gabriel's body in a San Antonio landfill, only reiterating the fact that this case will move forward next week.

The child hasn't been seen since Christmas, when police say his mother brought him to San Antonio.

http://www.kens5.com/news/Police-tight-lipped-about-Baby-Gabriel-investigation-83081147.html

This is so very sad. The landfill should have already been searched in the beginning days after what she had told Logan she had done to and with Baby Gabe.

I will say this much, if he is not found in the landfill and it is found that TS had anything to do with hiding him, I hope they not only lock her away to rot, but that they make her and her husband pay the entire cost of the investigation, including the charges for the landfill search and the investigation in both states and too all agencies that are working on this case.

Northern....thank you for all the updates. I haven't had as much time as I usually do to keep up.

By the sounds of it next week will be full of news.  Not a lot happening this weekend unless EJ decides to talk.

Searching I totally agree. This has drug out far longer than it should have. Tammi and EJ  both need to come clean on what they have done.

In case someone doesn't already have it, here is the link to the real Find Gabriel facebook set up by Logan's family:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=251236072296#/group.php?v=app_2373072738&gid=251236072296

In the discussion area they have alot of ideas to keep the story in the news.  They are emailing Oprah, Geraldo, and other shows.

San Antonio police plan to search landfill for missing Tempe baby (video)

SAN ANTONIO - It's been tough to get anything out of the San Antonio investigators looking into a missing baby from Tempe.

From day one they have been tight-lipped about the case, but Friday night the San Antonio police chief confirmed they're still operating under the assumption that baby Gabriel is alive.

"We have not opened a homicide case," said Chief Bill McManus. "We're still considering it a missing persons case. And we're meeting to determine how to proceed in the next couple days."

The chief said the case will take a major step forward next week by searching a San Antonio landfill. The chief called the landfill "a place of interest" in the baby Gabriel search.

His officers are still in the planning process, but they've cordoned off a section of the landfill, staked it out and figured out how deep they'll have to dig and prevented any more garbage from being dumped on the site.

Gabriel was last seen in Texas, December 26 with his mother.

http://www.azfamily.com/news/San-Antonio-police-plan-to-search-landfill-for-missing-Tempe-baby-83091942.html

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/local/tempe/gabriel_johnson_landfill_search_012910
Search for Missing Toddler Turns to Landfill

Updated: Friday, 29 Jan 2010, 8:53 PM MST
Published : Friday, 29 Jan 2010, 8:53 PM MST

Detectives in San Antonio say they will begin digging through garbage at a landfill there, looking for clues into what might have happened to a missing Tempe toddler.

Gabriel Johnson has been missing for more than a month, and authorities believe this area of the landfill contains garbage from a neighborhood where little Gabriel was last seen.

The boy was taken by his mother, Elizabeth Johnson, back in December even though she didn't have custody of him.

After a cross country manhunt, police were able to track her down in Florida just days after she and her son disappeared. Since then, she's been very uncooperative with detectives.

Johnson told the boy's father that she had killed little Gabriel, but then told police in Florida that she gave him away to strangers in San Antonio.

Police in Texas have not said what exactly they'll be looking in the landfill.

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/150046

I am probably repeating this so I apologize... but I found what was said to be interesting to put the article on again.

Gutierrez said that either information or evidence obtained through the course of the investigation was obtained to make the decision to move forward with the excavation. However, Gutierrez would not be specific.

“We have been at the landfill on and off for about a week,” Gutierrez said.

Earlier this week, managers of the landfill had cordoned off a section of it about two weeks ago that was “an area of interest” to police, a landfill spokeswoman told the Tribune.

My heart goes out to all of these little children and adults. Lately it seems to be too many, although one is too many. ::MonkeyWaa:: We have a beautiful blanket of snow here in Va. and when I hear the children's laughter outside playing in the snow, I wonder how could anyone do something horrible to another being?

newfie, the answer lies in what you said.  These perps do not hear the laughter of children as one of the sweetest sounds in the world.  To them, children are an object to rule over, hurt, etc.  Addtionally, whatever has warped their minds, it can't be undone, they cannot be reformed.  They will forever be what they are.  It is sad for them, it is even sadder for their endless victims.

Hi everyone, thanks for the well wishes, it was nice to read them. It seems there has not been too much going on in this case. I was hoping to log on and find he was found safe and sound.

I am going to be honest with you all.. I am sitting here crying huge tears because this month has been total hell for me. My daughter lost her baby and now my one pound chi is at the animal hospital fighting for his life. I know this may be turned into a "searching always whines" attack and I don't care, because I am human and I hurt like many others. I at this point can not see how any mother, KC A, EJ or any any mother could harm there child.  Do they NOT feel love? WTH is wrong with these people? I mean really, I am just not understanding the lack of feelings in these so called mothers/parents... anyway, I will be out of pocket for a while, but just wanted to check on baby Gabe's status and see it is not looking good and well, I am so close to exploding that I need to step back.. Take care all.

Oh Gosh Searching I am so sorry about your daughters baby and your chi,  :smt056

Searching

 ::MonkeyAngel::

Janet
 

  ::MonkeyAngel:: Unfortunately Searching there are so many people that have no feelings, whether it is with other humans or animals, I'm too the point that I can't even ask why anymore  ::MonkeyNoNo:: You need to rest and take care of yourself and your daughter, prayers for all of you  ::MonkeyAngel::

Sorry ot... my chi slipped into a coma, am going to be with him while they euthanize him as the vet says he will not come out of it... TC all... nice posting here with the monkeys..not sure when I will be back...........

Searching, my spirit is with you -- will leave you a message in the prayer requests.

Hi Monkey's, I was gleaning.   ::MonkeyCool::


Profiler Pat Brown on Geraldo tonight at 10 PM EST talking about Gabriel Johnson, Morgan Harrington, and Drew Peterson.

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?s=3d299163c5915ee33d37783ad79acd6a&t=363417&page=7

(last post)

Hi monkeys.  I haven't been online much this week, but following this case nevertheless.  I still think the San Antonio police, along with FBI, are working this as a cross-border kidnapping.  That would explain the dog sniffing-only search of the landfill (to rule it out and also not tip off the kidnappers), Logan going to San Antonio this coming week, and the confusing statements from the San Antonio police that the case will move forward next week.  I think they must have agents on the other side of the border, have had them there for weeks, and expect some progress next week as far as bringing the baby home.  Now, this is just my own opinion, based on nothing but my understanding of the case from news reports, so I could be entirely wrong.  However, it would explain some of the confusing parts of the investigation.

I really do think Tammi played a part in Gabriel's kidnapping and disappearance.  These underground adoption rings do have connections in Mexico and it explains why Elizabeth made a bee-line for San Antonio.  Of all the places she could have run, why San Antonio?  It's close to the border, that's why.  Anyway, next week will be interesting.

One other idea that inspires hope--border crossings are monitored and cameras take pics of all crossings as well as records kept of crossers.  Now, the baby may have been taken across at an unmonitored place, but that is very difficult any more.  The border is more closely monitored than ever.  If the FBI and Border Patrol have records/video of baby Gabriel being taken across the border, this might account for the police's insistence that this is a missing person's case and not a homicide case.  We'll see.

Searching my thoughts and prayers are with you  ::MonkeyAngel::

Searching - I am so sorry - feel free to get my email from Klaas if you need to talk - I have been there and done that with the loss of the baby. {{{{{hugs}}}}}

::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyTears::


I am so sorry Searching....I feel your pain I just came from the funeral of the lady I
was a care giver for  3yrs......My prayers are with you and your daughter.....and losing a pet is devastating also when we love no matter if its a person or a pet it is a  very sad time....take time for yourself and your daughter and I pray for God to give you strength and much comfort during your time of sorrow...God Bless you and your family.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks AZ for the insight. I teeter back and forth with this case. My heart wants me to believe he is alive, yet sometimes logic tells me other. Yes, I too think Tammi is connected someway or another. Karma will visit her soon.

Searching I am so sorry for you and your daughter's loss. How caring of you to be on this site showing concern for others  while in pain. Sorry about your family pet as well. I know what that is like, it is like losing a family member. Thoughts and prayers. ::MonkeyAngel::
Everyone have a good night with peaceful sleep and sweet dreams.

World renowned investigator offers to help find baby Gabriel

http://stp.abc15.com/content/news/southeastvalley/tempe/story/World-renowned-investigator-offers-to-help-find/s_YjDv3DlkWy4sO_Gbc9xw.cspx

PHOENIX, ARIZ.-- Police and the FBI have been searching for a 9-month old Tempe baby for more than a month with no luck, and now a world famous investigator is offering his help for free.

Jay J. Armes, otherwise known as "The Investigator," has been finding missing people for 40 years.  He was made famous for finding Marlon Brando's son in the 70's.

Armes sometimes charges up to $1 million a case, but for baby Gabriel Johnson, he and his team are offering to do it for free.

"Because of the way it happened and the way the girl started lying from the beginning," Armes told ABC15 on a phone interview from Texas.  "At first she had given it to a couple, and then she didn't know who the couple were. The harder the cases are, the more challenging they are to me."

Meanwhile, Gabriel's father, Logan McQueary, is getting his own team together to retrace Elizabeth Johnson's steps.  They plan to make a road trip to Texas, passing out flyers along the way, and searching for any possible places Johnson may have spent the night before reaching San Antonio.

"We have not started a homicide case, we are still considering it as a missing person case," said San Antonio Police Chief William McManus.

Like San Antonio Police and McQueary, Armes still believes Gabriel is alive, though Johnson will not cooperate with authorities.

"There's got to be a reason why she's throwing everybody off," said Armes.

Armes said he thinks Gabriel was "adopted underground," and that he and his team have recovered hundreds of children who went missing in such arrangements around the world.

The investigator said he solves cases by following every lead, like the rumor that a woman on the other side of the country adopted a baby named Gabriel the same day Gabriel Johnson went missing.

Armes said another key to his success is tough interrogations and deeper probes of "persons of interest," like Jack and Tami Smith, who were friends with Elizabeth and had hoped to adopt Gabriel.

"I think there's something there," said Armes about the Smiths.  "Where there's smoke, there's fire, and I think they should be doing a background on them since the day they were born."

McQueary said he has not agreed to work with Armes yet, but does plan to meet with him in the near future.

Searching I'm so sorry, I can imagine what you are going through and how hard it must be for you. It's important that you are with your family right now. I'll keep you in my thoughts. Take care.

Searching   ::MonkeyAngel:: Prayers for you all.

::MonkeyLaugh:: Crack me up!

So true Darla - Somer was found fast. I sure wish we knew why LE is doing what they are doing and why.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Thanks Klaas - that is a good thing because on the outside chance Gabriel is alive it is going to be so important to have as much exposure as possible.

You are so right Sister - they are monsters and cannot be rehabbed into being productive good citizens. Statistics show they will offend again and again.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Searching I am so sorry, this is terribly heartbreaking. I pray God will send you strength and love - you are certainly dealing with a lot of pain.  I will be thinking about you.  Take care of yourself and don't stay away to long - you will be missed as well being in the cage may be helpful in your journey to heal.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I have always wondered the same thing AZlady.

Very interesting article Alien.  He is right about the Smith's.

I thought maybe because it was a straight shot on the 10.

Never thought about that - sort of like "the path of least resistance"

True.  San Antonio is a straight shot on the 10.  But why did she go east?  Trying to get into her head, I would think a 22 year old girl, pretty, trying to make a new life, might actually go west to Cali or east to NYC.  LA would be exciting and hold more interest for her than San Antonio.  It just seems an odd place for her to make a beeline for and then to stay there in motels for a week.  She wants to disappear so she goes to San Antonio and stays a week in two motels.  That is just too deliberate for someone who wants to disappear.  I think she would have gone to Las Vegas, LA or New York City if she genuinely wanted to disappear.  Actually, she DID go to Miami after San Antonio.  I think that was her idea of a party place where she would start over again.  San Antonio was where she stopped to get some business done.   If she just wanted to kill the child and dump him in a dumpster, it could have been any dumpster between here and Miami.  And, she wouldn't have stayed a week in the town where she dumped his body.  It would have been a quick stop and then on her way.  I guess I'm just thinking aloud, but the more I puzzle this over, the less likely it seems she would have stayed in San Antonio for a week if her intent was to kill Gabriel and start over again.  She would have done the deed and gone right to the party city of her choice.  This gives me hope that she really did put Gabriel in the underground adoption system.

Bear with me--I'm thinking while typing, so this may not make total sense!   ::MonkeyTongue::  So, following my theory again, if Elizabeth went to San Antonio deliberately to put Gabriel up for adoption and then to start her new life, then Tammi Smith is the key to this.  She gave Elizabeth the GPS and the contacts in San Antonio.  Once there, one of two things happened:  Elizabeth either went through with the adoption and the baby is alive somewhere, or Elizabeth became frustrated with the process, being in a motel with a fussy baby, and killed Gabriel. 

With either outcome, Tammi knows.  Tammi knows if the baby was put into the adopted child underground OR if Elizabeth killed him.  She knows and is not telling police everything she knows as it will incriminate her.  Either way, Tammi helped Elizabeth make adoption contacts.  She know if Elizabeth went through with it and turned over the child to someone or if she didn't.  If she did not go through with the adoption, then Tammi knows the child is dead.  However, Tammi keeps posting on her FB for people to look for Gabriel.  Tammi, you need to tell what you know.  Elizabeth won't talk, but Tammi need to talk.  Someone needs to remind her that her God wants her to tell the truth.  At least, any God I've known advocates for the truth.  She is rationalizing that she is protecting an innocent child from an abusive parent, but she is actually lying to the police and the world about Gabriel's whereabouts.  If the child is dead, then say so, Tammi.  For the sake of your God, allow his father, Logan, the peace of knowing what happened to his son.  If he is in the adoption underground, confess your part in this, Tammi, and take the consequences.  God would want you to do this.  I know he would.

I, too, believe that Tammi not only knows what happened but participated in it, at least as far as arranging an underground adoption.  I do not believe she had anything to do with Gabriel's death, if that is what happened, except indirectly by helping EJ leave AZ and furnishing her the means to do so, i.e. the GPS and probably the cellphone and some money.

Tammi's love of satin reminds me of the song, "The devil with the red dress on."  I think the dress was red satin.

Hi Monkeys! I'm playing catch up but wanted to say that I'm praying for Gabriel to be found alive. I don't trust Tammi either, and I do believe she isn't telling it like it is.

Tammi Smith Hires Death-Penalty-Case Attorney Michael Kimerer

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2653757/tammi_smith_hires_deathpenaltycase.html?cat=17

Jack and Tammi Smith have hired heavy-duty lawyer Michael D. Kimerer to represent them for their involvement in the case of missing Baby Gabriel. Kimerer often represents defendants in high profile cases and has considerable experience in death penalty cases, which are automatically deemed high profile.

Jack and Tammi Smith may be preparing for the worst— that Baby Gabriel may be found dead and that the felony case 'Conspiracy to Commit Custodial Experience' being built by police on Jack Smith and in particular Tammi Smith may implicate them in the disappearance and perhaps the death of Baby Gabriel. AZ Central 12 News reports that Tempe police have yet been unable to link 'persons of interest' Jack and Tammi Smith to sufficient evidence in order to arrest them.

Jack and Tammi Smith had hoped to adopt missing Baby Gabriel— until his mother Elizabeth Johnson kidnapped and either killed, sold, or gave him away. Baby Gabriel was last seen on December 26, 2009 in San Antonio Texas— 978 miles from his Tempe Arizona home. The Smiths have said they were in contact with Johnson during the eight-day kidnapping sojourn. The Smiths lawyer, Kimerer, has told the North Valley couple to refuse further news media interviews and to keep silent

Attorney Michael D. Kimerer, is a certified criminal-law specialist who is admitted to practice in Arizona and California courts, state and federal, as well as before the U.S. Supreme Court. Arizona. He has represented corporate executives and also defendants in death-penalty cases. An infamous past case involved the alleged somnambulist Scott Falater, who claimed he was sleepwalking when he murdered his wife in 1997. A jury found Falater guilty of first-degree murder in 1999.




Good morning Monkeys. Now, somebody tell me that Tammi knows nothing and is innocent   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Hmmmm.  Not sure on the right ot privacy issues with SM.  Is there a way to check into Tammi being the "Dolce" that was here a year or so ago?  Perhaps crass checking the email address she used with some of the ones Tammi used on posting with Facebook and MySpace?  (I know this was mentioned in thread 1 by someone, sorry can't remember.  Has it been checked?  I have never seen a follow up from it)

Not sure.

It just seems odd how her colin stores (which will prob be going under, by the way) are in Dolce centers, and she is affixated with having another baby. (the twins)

Plus...

She had these forms that looked real in the adoption process.  I am leaning towards her being behind the underground adoption business.  Colon clinics would not provide the income needed for a house such as theirs.  I would love to see their taxes for the past 5 years.  I think LE is aware of this and is checking into building a good case.  If their taxes show little income or losses.  Then why would they keep opening up more stores?  (cover up)

It really does make me think there had to be something significant about San Antonio because why else, like you say, did she stay there?  If she wanted to rid herself of Gabriel she could have done that between Tempe and San Antonio but she didn't.  I have to think she was headed there for a distinct reason and IMO it was to hand off Gabriel AND, I think Tammi was a major player in the whole scenario.  I mean if there was nothing in San Antonio other than to give Gabriel away why else did she stay there??  I have days I think Gabriel may not be with us but I have more days that I think he is. 

Mission, I agree with you.  I think Tammi is up to her neck and some sort of "trade off" occurred in San Antonio.  I too have more days of thinking Gabriel is alive.  Whoever has him is probably scared to death they will be in big trouble.  My guess, they signed what they thought were legal documents, etc.  I just wish they would go to a lawyer.  Yet, I guess it would be hard to give him back once he was in your arms.  This whole thing is so sad.

FB

Tammi Peters Smith
Dear Lord God...Please, put it in Elizabeth's heart to tell the truth, the whole truth and let someone know where Gabriel is so that they can find him and bring him home to his Daddy...in Jesus name I pray, Amen.....

Poster
tammi do you think he is alive now? i know the other day you were not sure but this post is giving me some hope again

Tammi Peters Smith
We all have to have "Hope"....Some of the Media has given me a lot of hope lately, especially Yammi from Fox News San Antonio19 minutes ago

 ::MonkeyEek::

Was it not Yammi and the Smiths who said the phone was pinging in Victoria TX which LE has said is not true?  Was it not Yammi who the Smiths said that Gabriel was last seen in Raymond Russel Park and LE is say Gabriel was last seen at a hotel with EJ?  What is up with Yammi? 

FB

Tammi Peters Smith

Charm can fool you, and beauty can trick you. But a woman who respects the Lord should be praised. Proverbs 31:30....May God bless you all for your beautiful letters and prayers...There are a few out there with wickedness in their hearts for us. Please pray for them as much as you pray for all of us with this situation. They may need the prayers more than we do.....

FB

Tammi Peters Smith
Our attorney doesn't care if we talk. We just have to be careful because we can talk on camera for an hour and they take 10 seconds of something we said and make it fit to "their own" story. He just wants to help us talk responsibly to the media with him there to help us so they can't twist it into something else that' it's not, for "Breaking News".....

I doubt it.  "Dolce" in Italian translates to "Sweet," as in "La Dolce Vita."  Not an unusual word.  Also our Dolce lived in FL which was verified by some SM members and Tammi Smith lives in AZ.

I can think of nothing "Sweet" about Tammi's chosen line of work.  IMO most real health care professionals consider it a scam with no beneficial application and it can actually be quite dangerous as it can easily perforate one's bowels.  Even having a colonoscope by a qualified medical doctor carries some risk of perforation.

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Travis Warford
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Jack and Tammi are a pair of lying, manipulative people. I think Jack belongs in jail, too, not just TS and EJ. They've ruined enough lives.. this has all gone on for years. I married Jack's daughter Nicki, therefore am still his son in law, not his not his stepson. Hannah is my daughter, not his. He's ruined Nicki's (his daughter's) life and married a woman afew months older than her - Tammi. Nicki's had this tug of war with Jack and Tammi before I met her.. being that her two girls from a previous marriage were into and out of Jack's custody while she was in and out of rehab and jail as a binge drinker and addict. They ultimately all lost custody of the girls to the girls' paternal grands. Jack thinks he's above the law and smarter than humanity as a whole. Hope this bites him. I don't want to see Hannah in a foster facility while this plays out, but don't have an atty to help. I think they set all this up.. that they met EJ online, she has a smile like Nicki's therefore her baby w Add a Comment Posted on 01/31/2010 at 4:01:39 PM

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2636721/police_build_strong_conspiracy_case.html?cat=25

Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!


And Just why in the world would Jack and Tammi need a death penalty qualified attorney?

I wish some generous lawyer would help Travis get his daughter back.

Praying that baby Gabriel is with some loving family that is keeping him safe and warm and fed.

I wondered about this Yammi as well - did I dream this or was it rumored Yammi and Tammi are acquainted?  I am sorry but her Godly writings are starting to nauseate me - they are so disingenuous.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: 

I am going to be sick - again it is all about her - and just what does she need prayers for?????  Oh I know pray she gets arrested for doing what she has done to Gabriel and Logan - yep that's it!  ::MonkeyNoNo::

**** Keep in mind this is FOX where Yammi works

Who Did Baby Gabriel's Mother Meet With While In San Antonio (with video)

New details in the search for Baby Gabriel Johnson have been uncovered by Fox News at Nine. According to an eyewitness Gabriel's mother, Elizabeth Johnson, was in the company of a Hispanic male in his mid to late 20's at least 2 times. The witness also tells us that during one of those meetings a couple in their late 30's was also with them.
Federal and Local authorities have not given new information in the case. San Antonio Police Chief William McManus says that so far this investigation is still a missing person case. Who Did Baby Gabriel's Mother Meet With While In San Antonio

http://www.foxsanantonio.com/newsroom/top_stories/videos/vid_1117.shtml

This Yammi also has ties to Wisconsin. I think I will start digging into the Healing Waters places in San Antonio and see if Tammi has a connection with one of the owners in SA. There had to be a reason for EJ to stay in SA for 5 days.

According that Fox video,
the bag on the ironing board in the pcitures LE released is the diaper bag that EJ used and LE is looking for it

That is bs. Of course an attorney doesn't want his client/clients speaking and especially when one of the clients is a loose cannon. This lawyer that they have isn't some lawyer that has only had one or two clients in his career.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Where does Bobbi Jo, Tammi's sister live?

Has anyone found the names of Tammi's parents? I can't remember.

I think I saw somethng about Bobbi Jo living in Victoria TX, or her mother lives in Victoria. over on WS

Does anyone has a subscription to any of the websites that you can look up people on? You can only get so much info for free.
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  ::MonkeyEek:: So what is Elizabeth going to say, she gave the diaper bag to the couple she handed Gabriel over too. Even though she didn't hand over the other belongings. I see Elizabeth as a Casey Anthony, hope I'm wrong.

Private investigator brought in to help in search for Baby Gabriel

http://www.woai.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=792371@woai.dayport.com&navCatId=5

I have not found anything that I am certain about on her parents. 

Northern Rose do you remember what page you posted the mileage and stuff for EJ on?

I hope the and wish the same things Darla - and when he says he thinks they met EJ online I am willing to bet that is exactly how they met - "clearing my throat" thru a certain Craigslist ad perhaps????

I am thinking the same thing Mission. She seemed to love Craigslist. I had never been to it til this case and could not believe what was on it. Seen way to many pics. And had never heard of tops and bottoms and 420. By the way does anyone know what 420 means? I figured out the others but not that one.

It starts here
 http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6940.msg1062177#msg1062177

Hmmmmmm ::MonkeyEek::

I think this has been posted somewhere before that's why I had it bookmarked  ::MonkeyWink::

http://www.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&qf=Tammi&qmi=F&qn=Peters&qc=&qz=&qs=&trackit=74&focusfirst=0

Sorry guys wrong link

http://www.peoplefinders.com/search/searchpreview.aspx?searchtype=people-name&fn=Tammi&ln=Peters&mn=F&city=&state=TN

I am not sure what 420 means either Darla. 

Per FOX and (not LE) this is the bag that EJ was using that LE is looking for.

That maybe what they could be looking for in the landfill, and other items that she had maybe.

Hi Monkey's,  I posted a link to Tammi's parents divorce a few weeks ago.  I looked it up under the court site.
Janis S. Couvillion and Robin Peters are Tammi's parents. TP siblings and ages were also posted in the divorce.

I looked and could not find it.  Could someone bring this post forward please.  TIA

Seahorse...thank you I had forgotten all about that. SM won't let me pull up your past post to find it. Would you mind posting it again?




Northern....am I blind? I do not see a diaper bag in that pic and i couldn't see it on the news video. And check your nanners.

Alien ....thank you for the links

Alien, this past month has been horrible for me so I don't remember if I welcomed you to the cage or not...so

WELCOME TO THE CAGE!

marijuana friendly

Thanks Darla!! I received a very warm welcome from all the lovely Monkeys in here. It's nice to be a part of your cage  ::MonkeyWink::

  ::MonkeyEek:: Thanks Trimm, now I wouldn't have guessed that in a million years.

Thanks Trimm, I have learned way more than I wanted to know on Craigslist. lol. There is stuff on there that this dumb old woman has never heard of. Geesh, enough to make you throw up.   

 ::MonkeyEek::  I would never have guessed that

Well if that is the blue diaper bag that EJ alleges she put Gabriel in and dumped then I would say she is full of snit because that bag is not very big.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Here is a zoom and lighten.  It looks green.  Can anyone recognize the plastic bag beside it as to what store that may have come from? 

Thank you Trimm  ::MonkeyKiss::

Go here Northern Rose this is where Seahorse posted that info on Tammi's mother - I think there may also be a screen shot somewhere also of her white page listing in Victoria. 

Dah it helps to include the link - sorry about that

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=search2

By the way good work Seahorse!!

I still can't make out a diaper bag much less a plastic bag lol.....I need new glasses bad.

I get this

Due to high stress on the server, the search function has been automatically and temporarily disabled. Please try again in a short while.

I found a Robin A. Peters living in Odessa, Texas. Don't know if it is Tammi's Dad.

I don't believe Tammi gives up that easily when she wants something, and she wanted Gabriel. What if the Smiths own a condo in Mexico, we know they travel there. Could Elizabeth have met someone in Tammi's family or a friend that picked Gabriel up in SA and took him to Mexico? I don't think Tammi looks too far into the furture. She probably though that after a while Logan would give up looking for Gabe and move on with his life.
Just a thought.

I wonder if Yammi = San Antonio? Doesn't this person work in SA? She is friends with Tammi? She is helping to mislead people about details of this case. She has allowed Tammi a person of interest to speak to the babysitter. She is inserting herself into the investigation. hmmm makes me wonder. 

Darla I had a subscription to a pay site but it expired. I will re-join as we need it for my business. Who do you want me to look up?

Is that a plastic bag from a Disney Store? And I don't think that bag is large enough to hold Gabriel.

SuzieQ, are you the one with the subscription to the search sites? If so see if you can find anything on this Yammi reporter.

Yeah, see if you can dig up anything else on Yammi. And see if you can find Tammi's Mom and Dad. Janis and Robin. Someone just found a Robin in Odessa Tx. See if you can find one in Az.

What is Yammi full name, anyone have it?

I don't remember it. Maybe someone else does. I keep getting kicked out of the thread. I get a message that the search function is down so can't go back and find it.

I found a Robin A. Peters, male in Peoria and in Glendale AZ

I don't mind running someone though the site but I need the full name and birthdate or year to narrow down the search.

http://www.foxsanantonio.com/sections/station/news-team/#yami-virgin

This is the reporters webpage on fox news. I will see what I can find

I went to the thread to look it up by page number but the search function has been disabled - WTH?


Edit: You just need to go back and try the search again when the forum isn't as busy.   When the forum gets busy certain features are disabled until the volume drops.  This is to prevent the entire forum from slowing down.  I tried to use the search feature myself earlier today and it worked fine.  A bit later, I got the message to try later, which I did, and I was able to use it.  Muffy

Seahorse posted a link on the last page I think with their divorce papers but haven't been able to connect to it yet. It may have more detailed info about names and age on it.

Found a Y Virgin age 32 in Houston no criminal records found. No idea if this is the right person, does she look 32? In 2000 the following profile says she lived and worked in WI after moving there with her husband a doctor. I think I read she met Tammi when Tammi did a spot on the local news? Yami has worked in San Antonio and in WI, not in Arizona so not sure how they could have met. Does anyone have that information?

This is yami's online profile.
"You can't know where you're going unless you know where you've been."

I was born in Panama City, Panama, and I'm proud to call myself an Army brat. This more than anything built the foundation for that need to find out more about the people around me. It also taught me how to accept others even if they aren't like me. Although I wasn't born in Texas, I consider myself a transplanted Texan and most importantly a San Antonian.

I got my start in broadcasting while taking classes at San Antonio College. A program director at a local radio station heard my show and offered me a job. I went on to U.T.S.A. where I majored in Political Science and minored in Communications. After graduating from U.T.S.A. I worked on several political campaigns. But soon my first love pullled me back to news. So I went back to broadcasting and started working for the local Telemundo station. When you're just 25 and reporting and producing for people who have over 25 years of experience under their belt, you quickly learn to grow very tough skin.

In 2000 I moved up north to follow my husband when he was accepted to medical school. I went to the land of the frozen tundra, "brats" and the Green Bay Packers. After 8 years at the CBS and Telemundo station in Milwaukee, WI, I learned a lot about myself as a reporter. I learned I could stand in 60 below zero wind chills and still talk. My friends from high school aren't too surprised since they did vote me most talkative senior. While in Milwaukee, I reported for the CBS station and anchored and produced the news at Telemundo.

Yes, I've been around for a while. That's why I have 13 Associated Press awards under my belt. But I can truly say all of them were a team effort. While you see me on TV, it's the guy on the other side of the camera who brings you the images that make you understand the joy others enjoy or the pain they sometimes have to go through. If we make you feel something, then I've done my job.

When I'm not at work I enjoy traveling. But of all the beautiful places I've been lucky enough to see, I still find Panama one of the most beautiful on earth. I thank you for letting me into your home every night and letting my stories touch you in some way.

E-mail Yami Virgin: yvirgin@foxsanantonio.com

That is all I know Tracygirl. I would say that she is 32 or a little older. I doubt there are many Yami Virgin's around as that is an odd name.I think I might email her and ask her how she knows Tammi. Nothing like trying.

The person above is in the mid 50 range. I found a Janis Peters in Meza Arizona. I think the age was early 50's?

This is what I found out on Veromi.com

People Search: VIRGIN, YAMI  in SAN ANTONIO, TX<< Search Again

6 Matches Found (100 max.)
  Name/AKAs Phone Address City, State Possible Relatives   
1.  BENAVIDES, YAMILET  (Age 39)

Associated names:

 BENAVIDES,  YAMLLET
 VIRGIN, YAMILET DC
 VIRGIN, YAMILET DEL
 Available(6) Available MILWAUKEE, WI
LEOMINSTER, MA
SAN ANTONIO, TX
AYER, MA
LOWELL, MA Possible Relatives:

VIRGIN, MIBZAR DIBULET (Age 52)
VIRGIN, ROBERT S (Age 60)
DIEHLBENAVIDES, SUESAN L (Age 39)
BENAVIDES, EDGARTO (Age 39)
BENAVIDES, EDDIE
VIRGIN, YAMILEL D (Age 39)
BENAVIDES, JESSE (Age 55)
DIBULETVIRGIN, MIBZAR B (Age 65)
BENAVIDES, EDGARDO

Possible Roommates / Associates:

GREGORY, KATHERINE ANN (Age 45)
DION, AMY L (Age 37)
KARL, JEANNE M (Age 54)
HOUSE, BRYAN B (Age 42)
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2.  VIRGIN, YAMILEL D (Age 39)
   Available SAN ANTONIO, TX Possible Relatives:

VIRGIN, MIBZAR DIBULET (Age 52)
BENAVIDES, YAMILET (Age 39)
DIBULETVIRGIN, MIBZAR B (Age 65)
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3.  VIRGIN, YAMILET D (Age 39)
   Available SAN ANTONIO, TX   
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4.  VIRGIN, YAMILET D (Age 39)
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5.  VIRGIN, YAMILET D
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Thanks Tracy. I see a plastic bag but couldn't tell you if it is Disney, I don't see it very clear. Now the bag to me doesn't look like a diaper bag, seems to small.

Interesting - very interesting.  Thanks Tracygirl

::MonkeyDance:: Can't hurt to ask that is for sure - I am in the previous thread looking page by page for the info that Seahorse posted - it is going to take awhile the site is extremely slow for me today  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I think this is her. No criminal records. Shows 3 addresses in San Antonio. The veromi shows a couple of states, MA, TX and WI. Wasn't someone in this story somewhere coming back from a flight from Boston, MA?
Also, are any of these addresses near where she stayed in the Motels?

http://www.inteligator.com/advanced/xweb/index.php?xpath=premium_usinfo&cisrestype=comp_bgreport&premiumid=-6020&fname=yamilet&middle_initial=&lname=virgin&city=&state=TX&zipcode=&pstype=direct
YAMILET VIRGIN 39 11-08-1970 4900 MIRA MESA BLVD SAN ANTONIO TX 78240 Full Report
YAMILET D VIRGIN 39 11-08-1970 11660 HUEBNER RD SAN ANTONIO TX 78230 Full Report
YAMILET D VIRGIN   6685 UTSA BLVD SAN ANTONIO TX 78249 Full Report
 

Ok this is interesting - I found this in the previous thread it is in a post from Tamikosmom on page 68.

Tamikosmom says: Yami Virgin's relationship with Tammi and Jack Smith ... persons of interest in the Baby Gabriel Case ... bothers me no end.

And this is a snippet from her post;

GRACE: Raymond Russell Park? So she remembered that, but she didn`t remember...

JACK SMITH: No, no.

GRACE: She didn`t remember that?

JACK SMITH: Forgive me. No, this comes from -- and I don`t mean to go off track here, but...

GRACE: It`s OK.

JACK SMITH: ... but we have -- we have focused our life for the last few days since all this happened. We`re on the phone all day, trying to find out as much information. We have contacts. We have sources. Ain`t that cool? We have sources in San Antonio with a radio station and -- radio and telephone stations there.

GRACE: So you figured out it was Raymond Russell Park.

JACK SMITH: Raymond Russell Park is where -- where they -- and we also found out through that source that when she bought the bus ticket, she bought it as Elizabeth Jones.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1001/06/ng.01.html


THE PARK - THE YAMI VIRGIN (FOX) CONNECTION

NANCY GRACE
Couple Named Persons of Interest in Missing Baby Case
Aired January 7, 2010 - 20:00:00   ET

NANCY GRACE, HOST:  I`m completely stunned that you`ve been named persons of interest. On the other hand, that doesn`t mean the cops think you took baby Gabriel. I`m interpreting it to mean that they believe you know where baby Gabriel may be. What about it, Tammi Smith?

TAMMI SMITH: Well, I have tried to call the detective, Ramirez (ph), many times today, left two messages with her. It`s not that I know where he is, but like I told your staff, we`ve all been talking for the past couple days, trying to brainstorm where he is. So Yami from Fox News has been brainstorming, and she`s been digging and digging in San Antonio for us. And she gives us all of her leads. And so we go with that. And we`re working with your office, as well, and brainstorming together. So we just have our own ideas about it.

GRACE: Well, I noticed last night that you told us that you had determined the park where the handoff, the alleged handoff, was made by Mommy, 23-year-old Elizabeth Johnson, to this unknown couple that she just happens to meet at the park. How did you know the name of the park?

JACK SMITH: Yami. Yami was the one that had told me, and I -- I mentioned to you the connection aspect. Yami -- we have been somewhat embraced by them because they feel that we are trying our desperate -- desperately trying to find this baby. And help find this baby.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1001/07/ng.01.html

Somewhere, I think it was Tammi that blabbed her and Yami met while during her stint as a colon expert on her local news. If I did read or hear that and did not dream it what is odd is  Yami does not work in AZ so not sure if that was just another one of those "Tammi's 'mistruths' in the name of God and all that is holy."

Found Seahorse's post - on the first thread - page 19.

    Re: Gabriel Johnson #2 1/15/10 -
« Reply #358 on: January 16, 2010, 01:49:10 PM »
   
http://www.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&qf=Janis&qmi=&qn=COUVILLION&qs=AZ&trackit=74&focusfirst=1

Janis Susette Couvillion (Peters) is 60 year old, she is the mother of Tammi F. Peters.

JSCP had a child in 1968, 1970,1972, 1976.

TPS was born in March 12, 1972, her mother was abt. 23 yrs. old when she gave birth to her.

http://156.42.40.50/UnOfficialDocs/pdf/19970266019.pdf

(Parent's divorce papers) Page 2 lists the four children of JSCP

You know what I need help with? When I run the addresses I listed from my pay site I posted above, then on Veromi I see possible relatives in LA associated with the owners of the properties. LA, is that where Tammi and Jack lived?

Is connection between these people going back to LA? Where did tammi do that news spot, was it in LA? I think it was. hmmm.

That is the name I find her under.

Who Did Baby Gabriel's Mother Meet With While In San Antonio  

http://foxsanantonio.com/newsroom/top_stories/videos/vid_1117.shtml

New details in the search for Baby Gabriel Johnson have been uncovered by Fox News at Nine. According to an eyewitness Gabriel's mother, Elizabeth Johnson, was in the company of a Hispanic male in his mid to late 20's at least 2 times. The witness also tells us that during one of those meetings a couple in their late 30's was also with them.
Federal and Local authorities have not given new information in the case. San Antonio Police Chief William McManus says that so far this investigation is still a missing person case.


Now, that's interesting  ::MonkeyShocked::

You just need to go back and try the search again when the forum isn't as busy.   When the forum gets busy certain features are disabled until the volume drops.  This is to prevent the entire forum from slowing down.  I tried to use the search feature myself earlier today and it worked fine.  A bit later, I got the message to try later, which I did, and I was able to use it. 

I also wanted to add, it is frustrating when the forum is slow and I miss the search when it's down too.  I've sent Klaas a message about it, but I'm not really sure if there's any kind of quick fix for it at this time.  Hang in there   ::CowboySmiley::

Thank you for the explanation Muffy  ::MonkeyKiss::

Tracygirl.....LA. is where Tammi lived when she was married to Keith Facio and I think her kids and him stilllive there.

I had company come in and they just left.

The plastic bag appears to be a bag of disposable diapers to me.

Hey guys I emailed Yami and ask her what was her connection to Tammi and Jack Smith and why did she call Tammi and let her speak to the babysitter knowing Tammi was a person of interest? here is her reply:


Thanks for the email.  Trust me these days I bang my head into the walls a lot on this story.  As to Tammi Smith I've never met her.  She and her husband are at the heart of this case.  I was the first reporter, believe it or not, to interview them.  Like in any story my job is to try and get in touch with those who are at the heart of the story.  Since the Smiths don't live in San Antonio things I would tell them or ask them was news to them since they didn't see our newscast.  As for the babysitter she did speak to her after her interview was done.  We were told information by her that we needed verified.  I do not have any priviledge information on this case so I have nothing really confidential to share with them that I haven't already shared with the public.  As far as the Smiths only time will tell if they knew more than what they say.

Thanks,
Yami

Thanks Darla,

Yammi, may be another Tammi and tell what pops into her bubble head, to protect herself...do you think Yammi is being truthful ?

MyMonkey ...I have no idea if she is being truthful or not. But thought I would ask her what her connection was. That was the answer she gave. There has been so many lies told I can't keep up with them.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::Now thats ::MonkeyAngel:: the truth....thank you for e-mailing her.

Thank you Darla for emailing her and sharing her response.  What does she mean in the bolded sentence above? 

Thanks darla  ::MonkeyCool::

I think she meant that Tammi talked to the babysitter after her interview with Yami. I am hoping the babysitter went to the cops before she did an interview with Yami

::MonkeyEek:: I hope she did too!  Thank you Darla

 Re: Gabriel Johnson #2 1/15/10 -
« Reply #174 on: January 15, 2010, 05:44:31 PM » 

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I found Tammy's parents divorce

http://recorder.maricopa.gov/recdocdata/GetRecDataDetail.aspx?Rec=19970266019

I can't paste the info because of phone numbers which isn't permitted.

This is an "unofficial document".

Tammy F. Peters will be 38 on March 12.

TPS siblings are:

Billie J. Peters

Bobbie S. Peters

Tracey L. Peters

http://156.42.40.50/UnOfficialDocs/pdf/19970266019.pdf

Robin A. Peters, B.D. 10/20/1946

Sorry this Doc pertains to the child payments of Billie, Tammy, Bobbi and Tracey Peters.

 ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek::

The diaper bag looks like the black and whitish tan strapped bag they gave my daughter at the hospital. It was from a formula company. It had a bunch of samples and such in it. Everyone that had a baby got one there. So I am sure other hospitals do it. If it is it dont look very big but it is very roomy inside. I looked at hers today and you can fit alot in it.

The bag next to it looks like a bag of Luvs diapers. I am looking for a pic to post now.

http://a367.yahoofs.com/shopping/mcid16_254775/simg_t_tpg271pg271_315x265jpg110?rm_____DXlrMQvtn (http://a367.yahoofs.com/shopping/mcid16_254775/simg_t_tpg271pg271_315x265jpg110?rm_____DXlrMQvtn)


Link to bag of luv diapers. Sorry dont know how to post a pic yet.

That makes two of us that think it disposable diapers....with the top of the package ripped open

Is this the bag in the hotel room with Gabriel you are referring to?  Looks like a canvas type bag to me.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/GabrielBag.jpg)

(http://www.luvsdiapers.com/en_US/revolution/images/products/luvsfetrProductImage.gif)

Looks like a good match...to the Luv diapers.

Nancy is covering the story tonight....

I can not see how a baby could fit into the bag NG is showing. ::MonkeyEek::

TS and JS coming up next with more BS ::MonkeyShovel::

I find it real strange that Tammi can't remember the date that EJ called her?????  Not buyin it!

Hi Darla,

I should 'not' have ask you if you thought Yami was telling the truth  I typed before giving that much though ...hope it was not taken as a personal attack....  ::MonkeyKiss::

Sure looks like that bag is diapers norock and mymonkey - bingo.  Thanks for posting the pics Klaas.

MyMonkey i didn't take it the wrong way. I wasn't to thrilled with her answer either . She really didn't answer what I asked her just kind of skirted around it.

Yeah Thanks Klaas for lightening it up even more. All I could see on the other pic was Gabriel and something gold colored. I was really getting worried about my eyesight.

Hello Monkeys

I'm watching NG and I'm wondering if TS has been asked what I am thinking if it has I missed it.

My question to her would be

You say the first time you saw Elizabeth your first thought and words were she doesn't want her baby or what do you want to do with your baby something like that.
To me that is just weird why is that her first thought.
Anyone that travels with children it's hard you get tired and it's even harder when you travel with a infant and you are alone. You would look tired.
How did TS know that Elizabeth's look was not just being tired? How did she pick this not wanting her baby look out of all the people that were travel with children and being tired.
It just doesn't seem like what you would be looking for in others.

Even if they don't have anything to do with this little angel being gone stating the fact that she can tell the look of someone that doesn't want their baby is just not sitting right with me

Monkey hugs

Hi Stacey,

My thoughts on the airport meeting are that was an arranged meeting between the two....Tammi probably thought it would be safe to meet in a public area....maybe that was the first time they met....does anyone know how old Gabriel was at that time?

Stacey, I don't think it's possible to look at a woman and determine that she doesn't want her baby. I believe the whole story is a lie and they met under other circumstances by pre-arrangement.  I also don't know why Nancy Grace is being suckered in by the Smiths.  She appears to have swallowed the story about EJ calling Tammi Smith and trying to set her up.  I think EJ was being truthful to TS and that Tammi Smith is in this whole thing up to her eyeballs,  Anyway, there was a story earlier today about how the Smiths had hired this hot-shot lawyer who told them to make no more TV appearances and yet, there they were on NG again.  These two are about as bad as the Anthonys when they see a TV camera.  Maybe NG needs Tammi's professional services.

I think she said they met in that airport 7 mos ago which puts Gabriel at about a month old.  I question if that ever really happened - it doesn't make sense to me.

OT: I left a post in the prayer thread just now.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Poster

Hi Tammi, I know you don't know me but I have a favor to ask of you. As you know, Logan is heading to San Antonio to look for Gabe, hand out fliers and try to find anyone that may have seen Gabe or Elizabeth. You were the last person to see Elizabeth before she left. If you know anything that might help, the address or...iginally programmed into the GPS, any hotels she stayed in along the way, towns where she stopped to get gas, anyone she may have connected with, ANYTHING that might help Logan plan his best route and plan of action. PLEASE either post that info on the Bring Home Gabriel Johnson page or message me and I will get the information directly to Logans family. Thank you so much for any help you can offer. I know this has all been extremely difficult for all involved. But it has reached a point that I just hope we can all work together to bring little Gabriel home. PLEASE consider my request.

Tammi Peters Smith
Sorry I just got home....Anyway, I would love nothing more that to work together with Logan on this. He knows a whole lot more than we do though...He has the GPS! And he's the one who told me how to get a hold of her after she went to San Antonio. So we know absolutely nothing from the time we dropped Gabriel off until that Monday afternoon when Logan finally contacted us and told us how we could reach her. But if you do know Logan or any of his family, Please let them know that we would love to get together and brainstorm ideas or scenarios anytime they want to. We are doing everything we can to try to help find Gabriel...God Bless....
44 minutes ago

I just about throw up in my mouth every time I read a post from TS her head needs a cleansing because she has chit for brains. ::MonkeyMad::

I totally agree, just makes you want to puke. The poster didn't ask to meet with her. She makes me sick with her brainstorming scenarios. She sounds just like Cindy Anthony. I feel sure the only reason she is doing all the interviews is  to make money for appearing on shows. Wonder how much NG has paid for pics of Gabriel to Tammi? And by the way, I thought that high powered attorney told her to STHU. Ain't working is it?

Evening, all!  Rarely post here, but regularly check Gabriel's thread.  I'm crying "FOUL!" on the above blue bolded remark.  First of all, no reporter worth his/her salt (particularly one who has anchored and directed/produced news programs) is going to "give" their leads to anybody, much less some couple from another state.  Secondly, any reporter worth his/her salt is going to verify, research, and investigate those leads and pass the viable ones on to LE (particularly in cases involving missing children).  I'm not buying what the Smiths are selling here.  It's completely illogical.
The above green bolded post is laughable, IMO.  It's amusing the way Tammi tries to lay blame at LE's doorstep, attempting to make it sound like it's their fault Gabriel has not been found because they won't get in tough with Tammi and follow her leads.  Shades of Casey & Cindy Anthony!  Not buying it, Tammi Smith.  Also questioning why Yammi would "provide the name of the park".  Jack's last few attempts sentences imply that he's clarified exactly how the Smiths know Yammi (their "Connection"), when in fact it does nothing of the sort.  JMO

Well, need to scoot..early a.m. wakeup call.  Take good care!

http://www.woai.com/mostpopular/story/Famous-private-investigator-joins-the-search-for/mzpwp-Z5jE6FSfuzD3qADA.cspx  (http://www.woai.com/mostpopular/story/Famous-private-investigator-joins-the-search-for/mzpwp-Z5jE6FSfuzD3qADA.cspx)

   FAMOUS INVESTIGATOR JOINS THE SEARCH FOR GABRIEL

SAN ANTONIO – It’s been nearly six weeks since a missing Arizona baby was last seen. The last time anyone saw 8-month-old Gabriel Johnson was here in San Antonio on December 26. Now we’ve learned a private investigator is involved in the search.

World famous private Investigator Jay J. Armes, known as "The Investigator," tells us he'll be working in San Antonio. Armes has been finding missing people for 40 years. He’s most famous for finding Marlon Brando's son in the 70's. Armes charges up to $1 million a case, but for Baby Gabriel he and his team are doing it for free.

"Because of the way it happened and the way the girl started lying from the beginning," Armes told ABC15 on a phone interview from Texas.  "At first she had given it to a couple, and then she didn't know who the couple were. The harder the cases are, the more challenging they are to me."

"We have not started a homicide case, we are still considering it as a missing person case," said San Antonio Police Chief William McManus.

The boy's father, Logan McQueary, has also said he is coming to San Antonio this week. He plans to pass out flyers hoping to spur someone's memory about where his little son might be.

Like San Antonio Police and McQueary, Armes still believes Gabriel is alive, though Johnson will not cooperate with authorities. Based on what he's seen, Armes tells us he believes Gabriel is still alive and that the boy's mother did, in fact, give him up in an "underground adoption."

"There's got to be a reason why she's throwing everybody off," said Armes.

If you have any information on Baby Gabriel, please call Crime Stoppers at 224-STOP.

ooops, Sorry Northern, I see you posted a link earlier for the above PI getting involved. I kept getting kicked out the cage tonight that I missed your post trying to reload the page!!  ::MonkeyCool::

On another note, anyone have any comments on this PI? He seems pretty eccentric to say the least...But if he brings Gabriel home, I guess he can be whatever he wants to be!! Hoping Gabriel is found very soon. ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::

http://www.kpho.com/news/22407233/detail.html

Father of Gabriel Johnson To Hit The Road
Logan McQueary Leaves Tuesday To Find His Missing Son
Pat McReynolds
Reporter, KPHO.com

POSTED: 10:16 pm MST February 1, 2010
UPDATED: 10:39 pm MST February 1, 2010

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TEMPE, Ariz. -- Nearly a dozen members of the McQueary family were huddled in a hotel room Monday. All of them were working laptops, cell phone, printers, and maps tacked to the wall.

This kind of activity is usually reserved for campaign headquarters, but the urgency here is much more important than election wins and losses. The McQuearys are in a desperate search for one of their own.

"He's part of us, we want him back," said Sandy Peters, Gabriel's Great Aunt.

Eight-month-old Gabriel Johnson has been missing since Christmas, after his mother, Elizabeth Johnson, says she took him to Texas. She first said she killed the boy, but later told authorities she gave Gabriel away to strangers in a San Antonio park.

So the McQuearys have set up a war room to help re-trace her path.

"There's just so many different scenarios. If Gabriel was sleeping, she could have just taken off and driven a while, and if he was awake and crying, she would have stopped and fed him," said Logan McQueary, Gabriel's father.

Logan McQueary will set out for San Antonio Tuesday with his cousins, Lisa and Joe Peters. Lisa just flew in from Egypt to help in any way she could.

"You know, I hadn't met Gabriel yet, and I was really looking forward to Christmas. We had Christmas presents for him. I was just ready to meet him. I heard he was a really great kid," said Lisa Peters.

Gabriel's disappearance has gotten so much media attention, the man sitting next to Lisa on the overseas flight knew all about it.

"We're kind of overwhelmed with how many people all over the United States," said Logan McQueary.

But their task is made harder by the fact that Elizabeth Johnson is the only one who knows where she stopped and who she met on the way. And Elizabeth is not talking.

"I wish she would tell Logan the truth, all of us the truth, but we'll find Gabriel without her if that's what we have to do," said Sandy Peters.


 ::MonkeyBike::

No sorries.  It would be a shame to miss an article that may have info as opposed to it being posted more than once.

Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!

Went to Logan and Gabriel's page and guess who is asking for donations to go to SA. None other than Gayle St. John. Said she would go to the motel and see if she could find anything. I posted a warning over there not to send her money. She is a fraud. That makes me so angry, these stupid vultures start circling their prey when they are vulnerable. Shame on them.

Baby Gabriel's father solicits donations

The Arizona man seeking answers in the disappearance of his son is asking for public support.

Logan McQueary has established a bank account to help provide funds for his search for Gabriel Johnson. Donations to "The Gabriel Johnson Trust" can be made at any Bank of America branch.

Gabriel's mother, Elizabeth Johnson, remains in a Phoenix jail on kidnapping, child abuse and custodial interference charges. She allegedly took her eight month-old son from Tempe to San Antonio, then re-appeared in Miami Beach without the baby. She ahs refused to discuss what happened to Gabriel with police.

McQueary is planning to re-trace Elizabeth's steps to determine what happened to his son. He has hired a private investigator to aid in his search

http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/articles/2010/02/01/20100201gabrielsearchaccount02012010-CR.html

Thanks darla......I agree I think the whole bunch associated with her are as full of chit as TS and JS  I think if anyone knew from their psychic abilities where Gabriel could be found that they would offer the information free of charge.

Baby Gabriel's Dad Preps For Road Trip
Logan McQueary Leaves Tuesday To Find His Missing Son

TEMPE, Ariz. -- Nearly a dozen members of the McQueary family were huddled in a hotel room Monday. All of them were working with laptops, cell phone, printers and maps tacked to the wall.

This kind of activity is usually reserved for campaign headquarters, but the urgency here is much more important than election wins and losses. The McQuearys are in a desperate search for one of their own.

"He's part of us, we want him back," said Sandy Peters, Gabriel's Great Aunt.

Eight-month-old Gabriel Johnson has been missing since Christmas, after his mother, Elizabeth Johnson, says she took him to Texas. She first said she killed the boy, but later told authorities she gave Gabriel away to strangers in a San Antonio park.

The McQuearys have set up a war room to help re-trace her path.

"There's just so many different scenarios. If Gabriel was sleeping, she could have just taken off and driven a while, and if he was awake and crying, she would have stopped and fed him," said Logan McQueary, Gabriel's father.

McQueary will set out for San Antonio on Tuesday with his cousins, Lisa and Joe Peters. Lisa just flew in from Egypt to help in any way she could.

"You know, I hadn't met Gabriel yet, and I was really looking forward to Christmas. We had Christmas presents for him. I was just ready to meet him. I heard he was a really great kid," said Lisa Peters.

Gabriel's disappearance has gotten so much media attention that the man sitting next to Lisa Peters on the overseas flight knew all about it.

"We're kind of overwhelmed with how many people all over the United States," said McQueary.

But their task is made harder by the fact that Elizabeth Johnson is the only one who knows where she stopped and who she met on the way -- and Elizabeth is not talking.

"I wish she would tell Logan the truth -- all of us the truth -- but we'll find Gabriel without her if that's what we have to do," said Sandy Peters.

http://www.kpho.com/news/22407233/detail.html

and Gabriel would have been found by now. 

You are right about her being a fraud - that was great you posted over there, if she really wanted to help she would do it at no charge  ::MonkeyNoNo::

This is so irritating that EJ has the answer to where he is and refuses to talk and is more than likely happy with herself that she is putting all the people looking for Gabriel thru pure hell looking for him. It seems to be ones best interest to be on the wrong side of the law rather than a law abiding citizen. ::MonkeyMad::

She wouldn't have to drive to SA if she truly was physic. Remember in the Caylee case they said her and her crew, cleaned out a couple of buffets in Orlando. Someone said it looked like a bunch of pigs at a trough eating.

Probably already posted:

http://www.foxsanantonio.com/newsroom/top_stories/videos/vid_1117.shtml

 Who Did Baby Gabriel's Mother Meet With While In San Antonio
New details in the search for Baby Gabriel Johnson have been uncovered by Fox News at Nine. According to an eyewitness Gabriel's mother, Elizabeth Johnson, was in the company of a Hispanic male in his mid to late 20's at least 2 times. The witness also tells us that during one of those meetings a couple in their late 30's was also with them.
Federal and Local authorities have not given new information in the case. San Antonio Police Chief William McManus says that so far this investigation is still a missing person case. Who Did Baby Gabriel's Mother Meet With While In San Antonio

Monday, February 1 2010, 09:55 AM CST

She has more rights in jail than Logan or Gabriel have. Something needs to change. I am to the point I think we need to go back to the old days, when someone murdered someone, they were tried in just a few days, or a week or so, and taken out of the courtroom and hanged. It would surely cut down on the crime rate.

I am wondering if this is another of Yami's red herrings. I see it is another Case of what Fox news has uncovered. Why are these eyewitness on the news instead of going to LE. I do not trust this Yami person.She has tried to turn this toward Mexico since she first started reporting it.

::MonkeyEek:: That must be why she needs donations, so they can eat well.

I wish we could find out the witnesses name.  If it is found out that this was an underground adoption, you can bet they are very thorough.  I would imagine they would have witnesses come forward to thow off any kind of progress in the investigation.  This is utterly a mess!!!!

::MonkeyDevil::

I agree 100%.

Nancy Grace transcript from last night

<snipped>

GRACE: Joining us right now, special guest, Tammi Peters Smith and Jack Smith. The would-be adoptive couple out of Arizona.

Both of you, thank you for being with us. To you, Jack Smith, why is this witness just coming forward or has this witness been out there all along and we`re just hearing about it?

JACK SMITH, SPOKE TO ELIZABETH JOHNSON BEHIND BARS, PLANNED TO ADOPT BABY GABRIEL: We just heard about it this morning. We got the call about that because it was -- seems as though it was being somewhat held under wraps. But it`s our understanding that the police have known about this for quite some time. We weren`t made aware of it until this morning.

GRACE: Huh. Well, you know, another thing to you, Tammi Smith.

T. SMITH: Yes.

GRACE: I would love to know who this person is, but she did say she was with a male with dark hair, I believe she said he was Hispanic and a woman with long, blond hair. Did she not?

T. SMITH: She did. Wait, did you say the man was Hispanic?

GRACE: Yes.

T. SMITH: She -- Elizabeth didn`t say he was Hispanic. She just said he had very, dark short, very dark hair.

GRACE: OK.

T. SMITH: She didn`t say Hispanic.

GRACE: And plus there`s another male in the scenario. There`s a man and a woman, couple in their mid-30s and then there`s a Hispanic male. So I don`t know which one has dark hair. But I know one of them according to her has dark hair.

And I also know this witness looks at the man and says he`s Hispanic. Now what does that mean? I don`t know. But that`s how the witness described the male.

Now here`s the other thing. As best as you can, Tammi, in a nutshell, you get a call or you set up a call with Elizabeth, mommy, from behind bars. Whatever. You`re on a phone call with her and suddenly she says, look, it`s on you, you`re the one that set me up with this couple. Is that essentially what she says?

T. SMITH: I didn`t set up the call. I have a cell phone, and she shouldn`t even be allowed to call a cell phone. They`re not supposed to be able to do a.

GRACE: Don`t care. Don`t care. Don`t care how you got on the phone. Fast forward. OK?

T. SMITH: OK.

GRACE: What does she say about you setting up the meeting with this couple?

T. SMITH: She was just yelling at me saying this is all my fault, that I set this up, and I said, what are you talking about? I didn`t set anything up. And I asked her, how did I set this up? And she couldn`t tell me. I said, what`s their names? I don`t know. Well, then what`s their phone number? I don`t know. So she really didn`t.

GRACE: OK. Hold on. When was this conversation, Tammi?

T. SMITH: At my house, on my cell phone.

GRACE: No, when. When was this?

T. SMITH: I`m sorry, when? I think it was maybe last Thursday or something?

J. SMITH: Thursday or Friday.

T. SMITH: I think it was about a week ago.

GRACE: OK. Last Thursday. Today is Monday. So you got Sunday, Saturday, Friday, Thursday. Four days ago.

T. SMITH: I wrote it -- I wrote everything down.

GRACE: OK.

(CROSSTALK)

GRACE: Got it.

J. SMITH: 28th. I think it was the 28th.

GRACE: That was wise that you write everything down.


<snipped>

GRACE: To Jack Smith. Jack Smith, during your conversation -- you and your wife`s conversation with the mother last week, what else does she reveal, other than accusing you and Tammi of wrongdoing?

J. SMITH: Nancy, I wasn`t -- I was just on the -- hearing the back side of the -- one side of the conversation. You know, it seemed very, very strange, very scattered, very -- almost like she was scared and frightened. And she should be.

GRACE: What about it, Tammi? What else did she say?

T. SMITH: She was concerned about three people out of the country talking about this case.

GRACE: Why?

T. SMITH: I don`t know. That`s my big question to the police.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1002/01/ng.01.html

Baby Gabriel Investigator Jay J. Armes Puts Heavyweight Investigative Team Together

McQueary & Armes to Meet in El Paso Texas!

The world's most famous private investigator Jay J. Armes has just taken on another high-profile investigation— that of missing eight-month-old Gabriel Johnson, who was last seen on December 26 2009, with his mother, in San Antonio Texas. The mother, Elizabeth Johnson, is sitting in a Phoenix Arizona jail on four felony charges including child abuse and kidnapping. The father, Logan McQueary, plans to follow Johnson's kidnapping road trip from Tempe Arizona to San Antonio Texas. But on the way, he will stop in the border town of El Paso to visit Jay J. Armes, whose agency is The Investigators.

Jay J. Armes, who takes on both domestic and international cases, has forty years and thousands of cases under his experiential belt. When I spoke with Armes today in a phone interview, he told me that he has brought in three other prominent investigators to search for missing Baby Gabriel. Along with Logan Clark of California, Armes named Texas-based Ralph Thomas of Austin and Bill Dear of Houston. Among the four investigators are 135 years of illustrious experience. Armes believes Baby Gabriel is alive and says he'll find him. He said that since he took Baby Gabriel's case, people have been calling his office with tips. "We are going to look at everything," Armes said.

Among the numerous leads that Armes and his investigative team will look at is the Wisconsin woman who posted on the Internet that she adopted a baby Gabriel in San Antonio, Texas. When called on it, she said the baby was two weeks old— a statement that Armes thinks is untrue. Armes raised the subject of underground adoption and baby brokers. "They sell the kids in Mexico," said Armes, who has recovered over 100 kidnapped children. He added that human traffickers get '$25,000 and up for a kid'. Armes raised the subject of Jack and Tammi Smith. He stated, "It's odd that the Smiths [tried to] adopt a child who then becomes missing."

MORE...

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2658365/baby_gabriel_investigator_jay_j_armes.html?cat=17

EJ is in Jail.....how in he!! would she know 3 people out of the country were talking about the case. Tammi makes no sense what so ever. I think Jack is like Georgie....Tammi has his in a dixie cup just like Cindy. 

I have to wonder if someone involved was on that bus with her to Florida......could it be she was to get off in Florida and finish they would then complete the transaction?  Could it be she sold him for under 1000.00 because all she had on her was 500.00, that seems like very little money?  I am going to snoop to see what the bus fare is from SA to Ft. Myers is.....Tammi Smith knows - she knows alot - I really believe that.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

snipped from the above article
T. SMITH: She was concerned about three people out of the country talking about this case.

GRACE: Why?

T. SMITH: I don`t know. That`s my big question to the police.

Why didn't this come out before? She made no mention of this part of the conversation between her and EJ. she is covering her hinny

I have to to say, I am so impressed by Logan. He is really going all out to find his son.

I can't navigate in the Tornado Bus Co website as it is all in Spanish.  I went to Greyhound and they don't list an amount for the fare???  I am confused.  ::MonkeyConfused::

http://www.kpho.com/news/22412133/detail.html

::MonkeyGavel::  Enema Woman ARRESTED      ::MonkeyGavel::

I believe in thread 1 it was discussed.  $170-180 is the price.

article to link above snipped  Maybe now we will get somewhere in this case!   ::MonkeyDance::


"PHOENIX -- Officers have arrested person-of-interest Tammi Smith in connection with the disappearance of baby Gabriel Johnson, authorities said.

Gabriel disappeared at the end of December in San Antonio, Texas. His mother, Elizabeth Johnson, sits in a Maricopa County jail on charges of kidnapping and custodial interference.

According to a statement from the Tempe Police Department, Smith will be charged with conspiracy to commit custodial interference, custodial interference and forgery.

Police searched the home belonging to Smith and her husband, Jack Smith, Jan. 15. At the time, they did not provide any specifics.

The Smiths have said Johnson wanted to give up her baby for adoption but her ex-boyfriend, Logan McQueary, wouldn't go along with it."

   ::MonkeyCool:: About time

AWESOME!!!!!

Hey Jack.....  I have some Neon Closed signs for that business  you all built up.

Tammi Smith Arrested In Baby Gabriel Case

POSTED: 11:34 am MST February 2, 2010
UPDATED: 11:49 am MST February 2, 2010

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PHOENIX -- Officers have arrested person-of-interest Tammi Smith in connection with the disappearance of baby Gabriel Johnson, authorities said.

Gabriel disappeared at the end of December in San Antonio, Texas. His mother, Elizabeth Johnson, sits in a Maricopa County jail on charges of kidnapping and custodial interference.

According to a statement from the Tempe Police Department, Smith will be charged with conspiracy to commit custodial interference, custodial interference and forgery.

Police searched the home belonging to Smith and her husband, Jack Smith, Jan. 15. At the time, they did not provide any specifics.

The Smiths have said Johnson wanted to give up her baby for adoption but her ex-boyfriend, Logan McQueary, wouldn't go along with it.

Tammi Smith, 37, of Scottsdale, was arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to commit custodial interference, custodial interference and forgery, according to information from Tempe police.

Smith was arrested at 11:10 a.m. at her residence in north Scottsdale, police said.

Smith and her husband, Jack Smith, who have been in the national media spotlight involving the story of Gabriel Johnson, were once interested in adopting the child. And as the investigation evolved, the couple was named “persons of interest” in the case. Police believe the Smiths are withholding information that could lead them to the whereabouts of the boy.



Tammi Smith is being transported to the Tempe City Jail, and later will be booked into a Maricopa County jail, police said.

Jack Smith, who was contacted by the Tribune on Tuesday morning, wouldn’t immediately comment.

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http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/150179

YEEHAWWWWWW!

That is what I get for taking a nap. I missed the excitement!

WHAT????!!!!! YAY  ::MonkeyJustice::

Potential adoptive mother of missing Tempe baby arrested

http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/Potential-adoptive-mother-of-missing-Tempe-baby-arrested-83362862.html

Is there a video. I want to see how she was jumping up and down with happiness. Remember she said she would be happy if they arrested her.

TEMPE, AZ - Authorities have made an arrest in connection with the disappearance of a missing 8-month-old Arizona boy.

According to Tempe Police Spokesperson Steve Carbajal, Tammi Smith was taken into custody just after 11 a.m.

The 37-year-old has been arrested for three charges including:

1. Conspiracy to Commit Custodial Interference (A class four felony)
2. Custodial Interference (A Class four felony)
3. Forgery (A Class four felony)

Smith is currently enroute to the Tempe Police Department and will later be transported and booked into the Maricopa County Jail, according to Carbajal.

Smith and her husband Jack were named 'persons of interest' in the case last month.

Sources confirm Jack was not arrested, but investigators say he remains of interest in the investigation.

Eight-month-old Gabriel Johnson vanished from his Tempe home in late December. He was last seen on the day after Christmas when his mother, Elizabeth, reportedly took him from Tempe to San Antonio.

Elizabeth was apparently fleeing from a custody dispute with the boy's father, Logan McQueary.

Tempe detectives consider McQueary a victim in the case.

Elizabeth was eventually arrested in Florida, but baby Gabriel was no where to be found.

"It is a very real possibility that Elizabeth killed Gabriel," said Tempe Lt. Mike Horn said. "We are holding out hope that he's alive, but we have to look at every aspect and investigate everything."

Tammi and Jack Smith last month admitted they had wanted to adopt Gabriel and were friends with Elizabeth.

The Smiths have maintained their innocence since the boy went missing, but Tempe detectives have said they felt as though they were withholding information in the case.

The arrest of Tammi Smith comes several weeks after the couple's north Scottsdale home was searched by detectives.

Investigators will not discuss what they took from the home, but the Smiths said officers walked away with computers and paperwork.

The case has garnered national attention over the last few weeks.

Baby Gabriel remains missing.

Check back for updates.

http://www.abc15.com/content/news/southeastvalley/tempe/story/Tempe-police-make-arrest-in-missing-baby-Gabriel/l-hiVWyc7E-by9eczEAoHA.cspx

http://www.woai.com/news/local/story/Arizona-woman-arrested-in-Baby-Gabriel-case/MeQ6dmdEYUK0Cbfao84W5g.cspx

By AMANDA LEE MYERS, Associated Press Writer

PHOENIX (AP) - A woman who wanted to adopt an Arizona baby who has been missing for more than a month has been arrested.

Tammi Smith was arrested Tuesday at her Scottsdale home on charges of custodial interference, conspiracy to commit custodial interference and forgery.

Tempe police Sgt. Steve Carbajal says Smith was being taken to the department and would be booked later into Maricopa County jail.

Smith and her husband Jack Smith have been considered "persons of interest" for weeks in the investigation into the disappearance of 8-month-old Gabriel Johnson of Tempe. Jack Smith did not answer his cell phone, and his voicemail box was full.

Gabriel's mother, 23-year-old Elizabeth Johnson, was arrested Dec. 30 in Florida and is charged in Arizona with kidnapping, child abuse and custodial interference.

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::

Oh yes I remember - I hope we see some video - I need to check on her fan page - all the freaks over there that were loving her everyday - wonder what they think now?

 ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel:: Well its about freaking time ::MonkeyTongue:: I wonder what Mz Nancy would say about Tammi tonight. MOO, her judgemnt hasn't been so hot lately ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree IM - her judgment has been rather clouded for while now.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Any ideas of her bond tomorrow morning?  I would say it would be rather large like Elizabeths.  This has made my work day.  I am just waiting to make my year by having this precious baby Gabriel found safe and with his father. 

Father of missing infant coming to Texas

The father of a missing Arizona infant last seen in San Antonio in December is en route to El Paso, where he plans to meet with internationally-known private investigator Jay J. Armes.

Armes said he and Logan McQueary of Tempe, Ariz., the father of 8-month-old Gabriel Johnson, will discuss the investigation Tuesday evening and plot their route to San Antonio, where they will retrace the baby's mother's steps.

“We will decipher every iota of information,” Armes said Tuesday morning, adding both he and McQueary are hopeful they'll find Gabriel. “Right now, I feel that Gabriel is still alive, because there haven't been any sightings of a cadaver.”

Elizabeth Johnson, 23, was held at the Maricopa County Jail on charges of kidnapping, child abuse and custodial interference. Bond was set at $1.1 million, cash only.

Authorities said Johnson and her baby stayed at a North Side hotel Dec. 20-27. On Dec. 27, Johnson was seen boarding a bus to Fort Lauderdale, Fla., but Gabriel wasn't with her, authorities said.

She was arrested in Florida on Dec. 30 after she failed to show up for a custodial hearing in Phoenix.

While Armes said a San Antonio police search of an East Side landfill conducted Monday failed to turn up any clues, police department spokeswoman Sandy Gutierrez said officials have not searched the site.

A segment of the Tessman Road Landfill in the 7000 block of Interstate 10 East was blocked off as part of a possible search for Gabriel, said Peg Mulloy, spokeswoman for Arizona-based Republic Services Inc., which owns the 1,000-acre landfill.

Police officials contacted the waste-management company earlier this month about the landfill being a place of interest in the case, Mulloy said, but so far police say they have not initiated a search.

“The Chief (William McManus) has indicated that if something does happen, we'll let everyone know,” Gutierrez said, “but we did not search the landfill yesterday (Monday).”

Armes said he will work with three other private investigators in California, Austin and Houston. Combined, the team has more than 135 years of experience, said Armes, who runs a company called The Investigators.

He said a mutual friend told McQueary of Armes' company, and McQueary contacted him recently to ask if he was interested in the case. Armes, whose most famous investigation involved the 1972 return of Christian Brando after a custody-related kidnapping, signed on immediately.

“The harder the case is, the more challenging it is for me,” he said. “We've already been following several leads.”

Already, investigators with the Tempe Police Department, FBI and San Antonio police tried to find Gabriel, but Armes said he plans to look into claims other agencies already determined to be false.

“We have to interview everyone that they've talked to,” he said. “The more investigators on the case, the better


http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/83353172.html

I want to see the mugshot  ::MonkeyWink::

Her and EJ can reminisce as they sit in their pink undies of how they met in a airport   ::rhino::

I want to see the perp walk in front of the judge as she tells him SATIN is after him!  ::rhino::  maybe she can WRIGHT a new chapter in her book?   ::rhino::

Same here Darla... we snooze we lose!  This is good news.  Maybe now Tammi will start to sing......  ::rhino::

WOW!!
This experienced investigator thinks our "Beth" was lying.  Interesting.

finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::rhino::

LOL... yeah I bet she is turning cartwheels in that jail cell!   ::cartwheel::

Missing Baby Gabriel Johnson: Police Focus on Landfill, Do They Believe 8-Month-Old is Dead?

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/02/02/crimesider/entry6166019.shtml

I don't post here much, but I've been following Gabe's case and I'm so happy they arrested Tammi!!!  ::MonkeyJnBox::

That lady was lying out of her you know what. I can't believe Nancy couldn't she through her charades. Oh well I guess. Now where is baby Gabriel? I believe police are closer to finding him.  ::rhino::

Tammi Smith arrested in Baby Gabriel case

A woman at the center of an investigation involving missing 9-month-old Gabriel Johnson was arrested Tuesday morning in connection to the case, Tempe police announced.

Tammi Smith, 37, of Scottsdale, was arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to commit custodial interference, custodial interference and forgery, according to information from Tempe police.

Smith was arrested at 11:10 a.m. at her residence in north Scottsdale, police said.

Smith and her husband, Jack Smith, who have been in the national media spotlight involving the story of Gabriel Johnson, were once interested in adopting the child. And as the investigation evolved, the couple was named “persons of interest” in the case. Police believe the Smiths are withholding information that could lead them to the whereabouts of the boy.

Gabriel was last seen in a motel room on Dec. 26 in San Antonio, where his mother, Elizabeth Johnson, took him in the midst of a custody battle in mid-December. On Dec. 27, Johnson told her estranged boyfriend and the baby’s father, Logan McQueary, through a cell phone call and text message that she killed the baby.

Johnson, 23, of Tempe, was arrested on Dec. 30 in Miami Beach, Fla. at a youth hostel without the child and was extradited to Arizona last month.

Johnson also told an FBI investigator that she gave the baby to a couple in a park in San Antonio, and then later said she gave the baby to a couple inside the motel room before signing adoption papers.

Johnson, who was charged with kidnapping, custodial interference and conspiracy to commit custodial interference, is being held in Maricopa County’s Estrella Jail on a $1.1 million cash bond.

Johnson remains uncooperative with authorities in revealing the whereabouts of the child, according to Tempe police.

Tammi Smith is being transported to the Tempe City Jail, and later will be booked into a Maricopa County jail, police said.

Jack Smith, who was contacted by the Tribune on Tuesday morning, wouldn’t immediately comment.

More details will be released on www.evtrib.com as they become available.

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/150179

Jack better get his own attorney.  I bet they're gonna squeeze him now that Tammi's in the pokey.  Why does that make me smile?  I feel like doing cartwheels, and singing.  ::MonkeySlide::  ::MonkeyCheer4::  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDevil::

Scottsdate Woman Arrested in Missing Baby Gabriel Case (with video of chopper over jail)

A woman who tried to adopt baby Gabriel Johnson before his disappearance was arrested Tuesday morning, almost a month after being named a person of interest in the case.

Tammi Smith, 37, of Scottsdale, is facing charges of custodial interference, conspiracy to commit custodial interference and forgery, all felonies.
Police arrested her at her home in the Usery Mountain Regional Park in north Scottsdale shortly after 11 a.m. She was taken to the Tempe Police Department before being sent on to Maricopa County Jail to be booked. Police are planning an afternoon press conference to release more details.
MORE..

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/02/02/20100202arrest-in-baby-gabriel-case0203.html

Yay! I hope this moves this investigation forward!

I know this is a serious case, but just sitting here laughing at Tammi....I bet she got a free spontaneous colonic when they slapped the handcuffs on her this morning.

Scottsdale woman arrested in Baby Gabriel case (article updated)

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/02/02/20100202babyarrest0203updated.html

 :smt045

I am waiting to see when they update with her mugshot 

http://mcso.org/

Thanks, maybe when I get back from a walk it will be up  ::MonkeyCool::

Maybe Tammi will realize this is not just fun and games now.  She has been playing a game all along and it stinks.

I hadn't let go of this "Beth" thing either. I am not satisfied with what we were told regarding her either. I still think it was way to ironic. I wish we could see proof that rules "Beth's" newly adopted child out but understand the privacy issues if it is found that Beth is telling the truth.

IMO, I think Yami is just after ratings as a investigative reporter. I dont think she has anything personal connection with Tammi.

If Gabriel's father needs money to help with expenses (loss of wages etc), why hasn't Tammi stepped up to help him? She is "all about" helping those in need right? ::MonkeyWink::

Also, I would bet all my bananas this "witness" that saw EJ with a couple and dark headed man is a maid from the hotel (thought I saw something with a maid also) or the babysitter. (Yami did have contact with this sitter) I hope it would be the babysitter because I think she is the most truthfull of all the characters we have seen so far. Just my opinion of course....

And last but not least, Tammi being arrested..... ::MonkeyGavel:: ::MonkeyGavel::finally someone can light a fire under her arse to stop talking in riddles and give accurate information to find Gabriel!

Well well what can I say..... freaking awesome!!!! ::MonkeyDance::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyJnBox:: Thanks Darla, that was really funny!!

Reposting the timeline with the new events.

Gabriel Johnson Timeline v6

July -  Logan alleged, she became enraged when he didn't return home from work on time and took a knife to his clothing, the couch and the baby crib. She broke dishes and took a cooking pan and smashed the TV while the baby was in the Tempe apartment.

They were forced to move into another apartment.
http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/2010/01/17/20100117missingbaby0117.html

September - Johnson got out of control again in September when she got mad at her brother on the phone. She cut up the baby's clothes and the crib and broke every window in the apartment. Johnson spent the evening in jail and went through a diversion program on the criminal-damage charges, according to Tempe Municipal Court records.
http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/2010/01/17/20100117missingbaby0117.html

Dec 8: Fight between EJ and Logan and EJ tells Logan to leave. He does. 
Logan -Last time I saw them was the 8th of December. She wanted me out of the house. And we talked and split up. And I gave him a kiss and put him in his bed. Last time I saw him.

Dec 8 – Craigslist Ad
Live in nanny wanted free rent
8 Dec 2009 ... provide free rent and free food. female wanted for the job. i myself am a single female. please call XXX-XXX-XXXX. no emails please. ...
phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/wan/1501107108.html

Dec 9: Eliz calls Logan at work and tells him she wants him to relinquish his paternal rights so she can give Gabriel up for adoption. He refuses. Eliz takes Gabriel to the Smiths, then calls LE & says Logan has taken Gabriel & she doesn't know where Gabriel is. Gabriel found 6 hours later at the Smiths.  A Tempe detective at the Smiths when Gabriel is found sees the papers the Smiths have drawn up about temporary guardianship. Gabriel spends 8 days with the Smiths.

Dec 10 – Craigslist Ad
$400 room for rent (tempe)
Date: 2009-12-10, 8:09AM MST

hi i have a room for rent it has its own private bathroom. the community is directly across the street from az mills mall. rent is 400 a month no security deposit required. rent includes free utilities, cable, phone and i have internet here. call XXX-XXX-XXXX if interested.
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/roo/1503595618.html


Dec 11 Court date McQueary petitioned for full custody of Gabriel

Dec 11 – Craigslist Ad
Date: 2009-12-11, 10:50AM MST

Hi I have my 3 pomeranians i need to rehome. they are between 2 and 3 years old. 2 females both black and white, and a tan male all not fixed. rehoming applies. no emails please and sorry i am not able to post pics, so you will have to stop by to see them. call me at XXX-XXX-XXXX leave a message if i'm not their i will be a bit busy today.
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/pet/1505423124.html

Dec 11 – Craigslist Ad
$400 Room for Rent (Tempe)
Date: 2009-12-11, 10:51AM MST
Hi I have one bedroom for rent, available immediately. good sized room, own bathroom good location. In a community across the street form az mills mall. I own the home. REnt is 400 includes everthing, i have cable and a house phone and interenet connection. Room comes with a bed. call XXX-XXX-XXXX leave a message if i dont pick up i'll be out for the day.
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/roo/1505414750.html


Dec 12 Ad
Published at 08-12-2009
Viewed: 30 times
live in nanny wanted free rent (tempe)
hi i am in need of a full time live in nanny so i can go back to work. i dont have any family to help me out with my 7 month baby. i can only provide free rent and free food. female wanted for the job. i myself am a single female. please call XXX-XXX-XXXX. no emails please.
http://soldphoenix.com/job/140436/live-in-nanny-wanted-free-rent-tempe-at/

Dec 12 – Craigslist Ad
pomeranians to rehome (tempe)
Date: 2009-12-12, 11:50AM MST

Hi I need to find home for my two pomeranians. one is two he is a tan male, the other is a smaller black and white female with lush coat she is 3 years old, both are not fixed. they are 75 dollars each, potty trained as well. i am sorry I am not able to send/post pics, and no emails please, just call me at XXX-XXX-XXXX
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/pet/1507014020.html

Dec 12 – Craigslist Ad
free baby stuff (tempe)
Date: 2009-12-12, 7:02PM MST

hi i have a lot of free baby stuff to give away. call in the morning tomorrow-XXX-XXX-XXXX

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/zip/1507588240.html

Dec 14 .  an emergency request for temporary custody without notice to the mother.  McQueary wrote in his complaint that Johnson hid the baby at a friend's house until police finally found the boy at 3:30 in the morning.
http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/2010/01/17/20100117missingbaby0117.html

Dec 14  - In her petition for custody on Dec. 14, Johnson wrote that there were "two potential fathers," and requested that both McQueary and another man, Craig Cherry, take paternity tests.  Tammi Smith later admits she wrote the name of her first cousin Craig Cherry on the documents. 

http://www.abc15.com/content/news/southeastvalley/tempe/story/Court-records-paint-new-picture-in-Tempe-missing/6PhW8F-82kSl7PwFqFdGgw.cspx

Dec 14 – Ad
Today (Monday, Dec 14)
free baby stuff (tempe): hi i have a lot of free baby stuff to give away. call in the morning tomorrow- XXX-XXX-XXXX
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:m5poc5PDungJ:twillage.com/search%3Fq%3D%26d%3DThursday,%2520Nov%252026%26city%3Dtempe%26state%3Daz%26country%3Dus+480-456-3608&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

Dec 15 EJ tells Grampa Robert "I'm taking care of business."
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2010/01/10/20100110missingbaby0110.html

Dec 17: Court orders that Logan is Gabriel's father.

Dec 18: Eliz picks up Gabriel from the Smiths for a weekend visit with Logan. Tammi says EJ tells them to meet at a park for the handoff

Dec 20  - Logan  asked again for temporary full custody six days later and told the court she "will run with Gabriel Johnson and hide."
http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/2010/01/17/20100117missingbaby0117.html

On December 21 or 22, Elizabeth Johnson hired a babysitter, Analisa Urias, whom she had found on craigslist.com, and went out for a couple of hours in the afternoon.

http://www.woai.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoid=787786@woai.dayport.com&navCatId=5

Dec 21 - in a petition to enforce child-custody determination, he wrote, "When Elizabeth gets mad, she can and will hurt the baby."
http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/2010/01/17/20100117missingbaby0117.html

Dec 22-27th  Elizabeth Johnson stayed in San Antonio at the Homegate Studio and suits and the Quality Inn on i-10.

Dec 22 – Tammi Peters Smith sends Logan the following email:
Can we get together tomorrow morning to talk with you and your dad? I'm afraid she'll be gone forever, cause she doesn't want to go to jail for kidnapping. She Doesn't trust u or ur dad. The only way she'll come back is if my attorney faxes the signed papers to her so she won't get in trouble, and Gabriel b w/us

http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/articles/2010/01/26/20100126missingbaby01262010-CR.html

Dec 26: Gabriel and Elizabeth seen at Raymond Russell Park in San Antonio.
MAY NOT BE TRUE
Johnson gave her baby away in a Texas park.
San Antonio news stations reported the name of a specific park where Johnson met the mystery couple, Carbajal said. But he said police are unaware of any such park.
http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/2010/01/17/20100117missingbaby0117.html

Dec 27 – Logan gets a text and call from EJ saying Gabriel is dead. 
Text message:
You will never see Gabriel again. I made sure of that. And you can spend the rest of of your pathetic life wondering about him. You will never find me. I'm already boarding a plane out of the country. When I'm safe, I'll email you the exact location of dead Gabriel's little blue body, if the garbage don't come first. This is what liars like you deserve

http://www.kpho.com/news/22350870/detail.html

http://www.abc15.com/content/news/southeastvalley/tempe/story/Court-records-paint-new-picture-in-Tempe-missing/6PhW8F-82kSl7PwFqFdGgw.cspx

Dec 27 11:45 Elizabeth seen parking her car at Hotel 6, sitting for 5 mins, getting out with a large backpack, and walking across street to Tornado Bus

Dec 27 Just before Noon Elizabeth buys ticket to Fort Myers, FL . for for $180.00  Tornado Bus and waits for bus which leaves at 1:00pm.  Only white person on bus.

Dec 28 Elizabeth failed to appear at a custody hearing in Maricopa County Superior Court's Family Court in Phoenix AZ on Dec 28

Dec28 Friend Vanessa posts a Comment on Elizabeth’s Myspace “tell me about ur new life.   im curious!! How was ur xmas??

Dec 29 12:36 29 PM On Dec 29 at a little after noon, Elizabeth posted on her MySpace:
"kiss my ass suckas!!" Mood: adventurous Posted at 12:36 29 Dec 2009

Dec 29 5:51PM From Tammi to Elizabeth
I believe in my heart that you would never hurt him, but the detectives have a recording of you telling Logan that you killed him and you sounded very scared and distraught. We are also distraught! We love Gabriel and You, and you are going to get yourself in a lot trouble if you don'...t come forward very, very soon. As we told you all this time, if you do the right thing, everything will work out for the good. I really mean that! The lead Detective on this case really feels for you and he wants to help you!!! You can call Detective Aguilera at XXXXXXX..He truly wants to help you! He is also a Negotiator and he said that what Logan and his dad did to you was very wrong and uncalled for. He said so far you aren't in any trouble because you were technically never served yet. But if you don't come forward soon, you could be in some serious trouble. Just call detective Aguilera, Please...

Dec 29 6:43 PM From Elizabeth to tammifay (myspace)
tammi, i will never come forward, yes what i said was wrong but i wanted him to hurt like he hurt me so thats why i said all that. me and gabriel are fine, in fact great i just got a full time job under a fake name and the owner is very understanding of my situation, and is willing to hel...p me get new id's and stuff. I can not let you or anyone else no where i am, just know i am getting lots of help, i am very smart and resourceful, and that i am one of the most compedant people you will ever meet. I have always taken care of myself bymyself as long as i can remember. i can't call in fear of phone records. I am ever worried this email can be traced to where i am, so i probably won't email again, but i had to let you know we are all right because i know you must be worried sick, and i am soo sorry for that i really am. YOU and jack are such good people.

Dec 30 7:49AM
From Tammi  To Elizabeth
12/30/2009 7:49 AM To: elizabeth

Thank you so much for letting me know that your both are OK! I miss that little angel! I knew that you could never hurt him. A mother has to really love her child enough to give him up to a good family in order to give him a more meaningfully life.
Be safe,
Tammi

Dec 30 - Elizabeth was arrested Dec 30 at a youth hostel in Miami Beach FL
International Fun House 230 20th street

Dec 31 10:09 AM From Tammi To Elizabeth
Ok, I'm gonna try to help you here and I pray that you understand and do the right thing so you and Gabriel can be free forever!

Detective Patricia Ramirez came here yesterday to do an interview with us. She is now leading the investigation. Because she deals with Homicide and Sex Crimes. She said that if you go to any police officer (wright down your name and Gabriel's name with Det. Ramirez name and phone # (XXX) XXX-XXXX on it and give to the officer) tell him to take a good look at you two and then once you leave he can call Det. Ramirez to let her know you two are both safe.

Dec 31 11:36AM Tammi postes a comment on Elizabeth’s Myspace  “Read my message titled "Gabriel" “

Jan 5 Police in San Antonio located her car at the Motel 6, near I-35 and Zarzamora

Jan 7 Jack and Tammi Smith of Scottsdale, AZ, are named "persons of interest."  Police think they may know what happened to Gabriel.

Jan 9  Johnson extradited from Dade County Jail to Maricopa County Jail

Jan 14 Jack and Tammi Smith’s house searched

Jan 20 – Police Interview Jack’s son, house in Tennessee

Jan 28 – EJ calls Tammi from jail.

Feb 2 – Tammi Peters Smith arrested at her home for Conspiracy to Commit Custodial Interference (A class four felony). Custodial Interference (A Class four felony), Forgery (A Class four felony)

****No idea what date Tammi sent this to Elizabeth
Email:
I know you didn't kill him, but the police don't know that. There just need to verify he's not dead or hurt and you can live the rest of your life, not having to hide anymore!!! All you have to do is take a long drive and see a cop on the side of the road in a city and give him the paper and ask him to call her to va...rify you two are safe. You don't need to tell him why....As one of the officers said, you are not in trouble, you have the right to take your own child. But it's like having a parking ticket and robbing the bank to pay your parking ticket. If you never paid that parking ticket, you wouldn't be in trouble...But if you do an armed robbery at the bank they will send out a Nationwide search for you like they will in a few days if you don't show that he is safe. But it needs to be verified through a police officer in order to stop it from going to the FBI.

OTHERWISE: They are starting a Homicide Investigation! What that means is: Right now (today), your not in trouble. Your one of millions of mothers that leaves the state to keep her child safe from the horrible father. It's NOT kidnapping! You have every right to take your own child. You can even look on Public Reco...rds, there is NO warrent out for you....BUT, because of what you said, if you don't do this in the next few days, it will turn into a Murder Investigation and Detective Ramirez can no longer help. The FBI will pick the case up and you will be seen on America's Most Wanted! Your face will be seen everywhere and nobody will want to help you because they will believe you are a murderer... You will be going on with your life and when you least expect it (someone you thought was your friend wanted a $25,000.00 reward, and quitely turned you in).

****Still need to add dates of EJ’s craiglist ads selling her laptop, sighting at restaurant , date Janet Morris house was searched. 

Northern Rose....can you post what is being said on her Facebook wall? I can't see it as I never wanted to be on her friends list. Now I wish I had.

snipped......

Don't hold your breath...she'll Lawyer Up and Shut up (if that is possible) ::MonkeyHaHa::

Maybe she can pay up in her child support arrears and the two failure to appears for traffic violations before they let her out. 

Tammi Smith Arrested In Baby Gabriel Case http://www.kpho.com/news/22412133/detail.html

I missed the perp walk I have so been waiting for.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

 ::MonkeyGavel:: maybe NOW she will start telling the truth!

video report:

http://www.kpho.com/video/22412679/index.html

<snipped>

Smith is currently at the Tempe Police Department, but is expected to be transported and booked into the Maricopa County Jail, according to Carbajal.

The Tempe Police Department is expected to hold a news conference at 3 p.m. to discuss the arrest.

Smith and her husband Jack were named 'persons of interest' in the case last month.

Sources confirm Jack was not arrested, but investigators say he remains of interest in the investigation.

http://www.abc15.com/content/news/southeastvalley/tempe/story/Tempe-police-make-arrest-in-missing-baby-Gabriel/l-hiVWyc7E-by9eczEAoHA.cspx

Now may be the time for Travis Warford to try to get his daughter back.

From Tammi's wall

Poster
 I knew it!!! Please for Gabriel's sake speak the TRUTH and tell the authorities where he is!!!!!!

Poster
 Breaking now
– Missing baby Gabriel’s would-be adoptive mom Tammi Peters Smith has
just been arrested! Smith has been charged with custodial interference,
conspiracy to commit custodial interference, and forgery! But are
investigators closer to finding Gabriel? Tune in tonight for all the
breaking details!

Poster
Sorry to hear about your arrest. Stay strong...stay blessed.

Poster
Maybe now her Jacks granddaughter can go and live with her real parents!!

Poster
I wonder why you got arrested this morning at 11:10 AM Tammi?! GO FIGURE!

Poster
she better start talking!!!

Poster
Talk Tammi!!!!!

Poster
 lol that wont happen! if she was she woulda done it by now!! lol

Poster
 You have to always tell the truth you aren't helping if you aren't being forthcoming. PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH about EVERY thing you know.

Baby Gabriel Update: Hopeful Adoptive Mother, Tammi Smith, Arrested

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2010/02/baby_gabriel_update_hopeful_ad.php

Sandy Peters Anyone out there from Tucson that would be willing to distribute posters? Logan has found a neighborhood we think Elizabeth was in! Now we need help with posters! Please email Logan at hockeypro3211@msn.com or me at sandypeters09@yahoo.com Thanks!

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=251236072296&ref=mf

I do hope the post bolded by me is sarcasm.

Wow just logged!!!! This day has finally come!  ::MonkeyGavel::

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub3/dancingmonkeyff8.gif)

Thanks for the updates Monkeys.  Maybe some truth will be forthcoming in regards to this precious baby.

I think Tammi sees herself as some kind of martyr.  That's why she said she was hoping to be arrested.  Then she can be a heroine, and she can say "see me, and see what I'm going through all for Gabriel".  And I think she's doing this because in her mind she has saved Gabriel from being with Elizabeth (who didn't want Gabriel) and Logan (who Tammi thinks wouldn't be a good parent).  I wonder how much money changed hands among the do-gooders?  I'm thinking Tammi initially wanted Gabriel for herself, and then she realized Logan was trying to get custody, and then Gabriel was sold/given to another couple.  I don't know.   I hope Gabriel is safe somewhere and can be found soon.  There's still  that gnawing fear inside that Elizabeth may have harmed Gabriel.

I totally agree MuffyBee. The moment I read she said she was happy if she got arrested I had the same thought.

This failure to appear is still open on Tammi   ::CowboySmiley::

http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/caselookup.aspx

 :smt045

This is good news indeed......it sure took them long enough...... ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyJustice::

Another Failure to Appear that is also open on Tammi   ::CowboySmiley::

http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/caselookup.aspx

Maybe now NG can move on from Jack and Tammi and maybe have someone such as LOGAN or one of Gabriels actual relatives on her show? However, I get Jack is being interviewed right now.

Third Failure to appear that is also open on Tammi   ::CowboySmiley::

http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/caselookup.aspx

Tammi also has some back child support case also! I think it is in La.

Failure to appear but she got lucky as the Courts dismissed this one last week.  If only they had waited a week for when she was escorted into Jail   ::CowboySmiley::

http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/caselookup.aspx

Arizona is Mt time right?

 ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

Does anyone have Tammi's step parent information handy?

I'm so glad they've arrested Tammi!  I'll have to go leave a message for her on her facebook for Gabriel  ::MonkeyDevil::

Yes, Arizona is MST =Mountain Standard Time  ::rhino::

Yes it is Darla  ::MonkeyAngel::

The link to that is in thread 1.  She owed around $750 in overdue child support. 

"ABC15 learned Tuesday afternoon that Jack is no longer a person of interest in the case."  ::MonkeyEek::

She failed to appear for this as well   ::CowboySmiley::

Sorry Klaas but I am not sure what you are looking for

Was it Riddle???

<snipped>   ::MonkeyEek::

Smith and her husband Jack were named 'persons of interest' in the case last month.

ABC15 learned Tuesday afternoon that Jack is no longer a person of interest in the case.

http://www.abc15.com/content/news/southeastvalley/tempe/story/Tempe-police-make-arrest-in-missing-baby-Gabriel/l-hiVWyc7E-by9eczEAoHA.cspx

Thanks Muffy and Mission. I hope I can find someone carrying the press conference live.

Name and addresses of the step parents.  I believe it was posted but I can't use the search function right now.

Hmmm sounds like Ms Tammi was going behind her husbands back?

Klaas, I think I read somewhere that her stepmothers name is Margaret Riddle. Not sure how true it is but do remember reading it.

Baby Gabriel Case: Second Arrest, Still No Sign of Missing Child (with video)
Tammi Smith Arrested Today for Custodial Interference, Forgery

It is the latest twist in the case of missing 8-month-old Gabriel Johnson: Tammi Smith was arrested this morning for forgery, custodial interference, and conspiracy to commit custodial interference, said police in Tempe, Ariz.

Smith, 37, was arrested at 11:10 a.m. at her home in Scottsdale, Ariz., according to the police. She and her husband, Jack, said they were in talks to adopt Gabriel before he disappeared in December.

Sources told ABC News that authorities do not believe Smith knows Gabriel's whereabouts. She was arrested for her alleged involvement in a wrongful adoption.

Smith's attorney, Michael Kimerer, said there would likely be a bond hearing this evening after she is transferred to the Tempe, Ariz., jail.

The Smiths were previously named as persons of interest in Gabriel's case. Police served a search warrant on their home, believing the two may be withholding information. Police took their phone records and laptop.

Kimerer said Smith has always been forthcoming in her meetings with the police.

"When Tammi went and visited the police she told them everything she knows," he said.

Gabriel's mother, Elizabeth Johnson, and the boy's biological father, Logan McQueary, were in the middle of a custody dispute when Johnson fled Arizona with Gabriel before Christmas. She allegedly sent text messages to McQueary, saying she had killed their son and left his body in a trash bin.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/arrest-missing-baby-gabriel-case-sign-child/story?id=9728581

Klaas I think it was posted on Tammi/Gabriel  Facebook

She must have been  ::MonkeyShocked::

I don't have it handy either, would need to search for it, sorry.

Probably already posted but I can't get enough of this Tammi arrest stuff:

http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/2010/02/02/20100202arrest-in-baby-gabriel-case0203.html

Scottsdale woman arrested in missing Baby Gabriel case

41 comments by Megan Boehnke - Feb. 2, 2010 12:43 PM
The Arizona Republic

A woman who tried to adopt baby
Gabriel Johnson before his disappearance was arrested Tuesday morning, almost a month after being named a person of interest in the case.

Tammi Smith, 37, of Scottsdale, is facing charges of custodial interference, conspiracy to commit custodial interference and forgery, all felonies.

Police arrested her at her home in the 16500 block of East Desert Vista Trail in north Scottsdale shortly after 11 a.m. She was taken to the Tempe Police Department before being sent on to a Maricopa County jail to be booked. Police are planning an afternoon press conference to release more details.

Police have said for nearly a month that they believe Tammi Smith and her husband, Jack, know more about Gabriel Johnson's disappearance and named them persons of interest on Jan. 7.

The 9-month-old boy has been missing since his mother took off with him on Dec. 18. Elizabeth Johnson, 23, was arrested in Miami on Dec. 30 without the child after spending about a week in San Antonio. She has been indicted on kidnapping, child abuse, custodial interference and conspiracy to commit custodial interference.

Logan McQueary, 25, the child's father, told reporters he felt extorted by the Smiths and said they told him Johnson would return if he would sign over his parental rights, something they had asked him to do for several weeks after he broke up with Johnson.

Tammi Smith told The Arizona Republic last month that she texted and called Johnson up until her arrest. Smith insisted she was trying to find out where the baby was and coax Johnson into returning to Arizona.

The child was last seen with his mother in San Antonio, where she spent Dec. 22 to Dec. 27 at two motels in the city. She then left her car at a Motel 6 next to a bus stop.

Johnson has refused to talk to investigators, but she told a local television station
that she gave the baby to a couple she met in a San Antonio park.

While on the run, she texted the baby's father. He said she told him in a subsequent phone conversation that she killed Gabriel and was leaving the country. Police tracked her cell phone to Victoria, Texas, according to court documents. Police have recently said hope of finding baby Gabriel dead or alive is waning.

Early in the investigation, police questioned Jack and Tammi Smith, who said they had temporary guardianship of the child for about 10 to 12 days at the beginning of December.

A Tempe police detective saw paperwork on the guardianship while at the Smith home checking on the baby last month, though they were not court-issued documents, so the papers' authority is unclear, Carbajal said.

Smith said she met Johnson at an airport during a layover. She spotted the young mother and said she looked tired and depressed. Smith said she went up to Johnson and asked if she was looking for someone to adopt the child, and Johnson said "yes," though the father refused to sign over his rights.

Smith said she and her husband spent seven months trying to adopt Gabriel and that his parents wanted to give him up at different times. Johnson and McQueary never seemed to be on the same page, she said.

McQueary told reporters that that wasn't the case and that he never wanted to give up his child.

Smith told The Republic in a phone interview last month that she got a text from Johnson denying that she'd killed Gabriel and telling the Smiths that she sent the message to get back at McQueary.

"Neither of them want the baby," said Smith, who lives in north Scottsdale and owns a colon-hydrotherapy practice. "Most likely, she's left him with another family she's chosen like she had chosen us."

Tammi's previous experience with the courts

 ::MonkeyGavel:: mug shot  ::MonkeyGavel:: mug shot  ::MonkeyGavel:: we want to see a mug shot  ::MonkeyGavel::

Well Tammi is no stranger to the court system  ::MonkeyEek::

Would-be adoptive Mom arrested on felony charges in connection with missing 10 month old Gabriel Johnson. Nancy Grace tonight!

Stranger?  No... but nothing like these charges.  In my opinion, she will break down fast! ::MonkeyGavel::

Wow... 10 months old already?  Babies change so fast.... that is one thing against finding him.

<snipped>

Tempe detectives consider McQueary a victim in the case.

In a text message to ABC15's Corey Rangel, McQueary said Tuesday about Smith's arrest, "I am very happy. Maybe this is what we need to get her to tell the truth and find Gab, stir things up a bit and see what comes out of it."
Elizabeth was eventually arrested in Florida, but baby Gabriel was no where to be found.

"It is a very real possibility that Elizabeth killed Gabriel," said Tempe Lt. Mike Horn said. "We are holding out hope that he's alive, but we have to look at every aspect and investigate everything."

http://www.abc15.com/content/news/southeastvalley/tempe/story/Tempe-police-make-arrest-in-missing-baby-Gabriel/l-hiVWyc7E-by9eczEAoHA.cspx