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Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 12:11:21 AM
You all know the rules


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Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 01:26:23 AM
Thirdstrike - Greta had the footage tonight of Joran getting served in NY.  Makes some of us think that the NY Judge is getting close to making her decision, or that something is up. Why would she show that now??


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 01:27:13 AM
Ok, I'm off to play some games.  See you all tomorrow!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 27, 2006, 01:28:28 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Thirdstrike - Greta had the footage tonight of Joran getting served in NY.  Makes some of us think that the NY Judge is getting close to making her decision, or that something is up. Why would she show that now??


Yeah, I saw that.  She interviewed that funny looking "Sopranos" dude who served him, right?  ;)  Maybe they decided to speak on it today because she may be getting viewer pressure (via emails and such) to pay more attention on it...considering it's been dormant on her show for a while now...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Sleuth on June 27, 2006, 01:29:37 AM
Klaasend - I agree, perhaps Greta has heard rumblings about an upcoming decision.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Sleuth on June 27, 2006, 01:30:15 AM
XXX - when the avatars come back up you'll see that I've switched to one that compliments your cool purple one   :wink:
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Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 27, 2006, 01:30:21 AM
CBB-To answer your earlier question....I'm currently in Los Angeles, Cali.  It was over 100 degrees this past weekend...with nightime temperatures hovering around 90 degrees.  Now, I don't know about you, but there should be only one GOOD reason to sweat at night.  And, that doesn't include weather...ya know??  ;)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 27, 2006, 01:31:57 AM
Quote from: "Sleuth"
XXX - when the avatars come back up you'll see that I've switched to one that compliments your cool purple one   :wink:
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a335/my_photos_/Nataleeavatar.gif)


Good choice Sleuth!  Actually, that one was my second choice...;)

Now, nobody answered my question from earlier.  I'll email HotShot myself later on.  But, why is arubassilence coming down at the end of the month?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Sleuth on June 27, 2006, 01:34:49 AM
Sorry, XXX, I'm not sure why it is coming down...Klaasend indicated she thought it was coming down in Apirl already...

Do you have the humidity with the 100 degrees ?   And LOL about the good reason for sweating at night...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 01:37:06 AM
Quote from: "Sleuth"
Sorry, XXX, I'm not sure why it is coming down...Klaasend indicated she thought it was coming down in Apirl already...

Do you have the humidity with the 100 degrees ?   And LOL about the good reason for sweating at night...


Back last March she said something about the cost of keeping it going.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 27, 2006, 01:37:14 AM
Quote from: "Sleuth"
Sorry, XXX, I'm not sure why it is coming down...Klaasend indicated she thought it was coming down in Apirl already...

Do you have the humidity with the 100 degrees ?   And LOL about the good reason for sweating at night...


Humidity?  Well, I often play basketball during my lunch hour (outdoor), and today my shirt was soaked from running about twice up and down the court.  It was overcast, and EXTREMELY humid to say the least.  It was awful!!!  :(


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 27, 2006, 01:38:54 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Sleuth"
Sorry, XXX, I'm not sure why it is coming down...Klaasend indicated she thought it was coming down in Apirl already...

Do you have the humidity with the 100 degrees ?   And LOL about the good reason for sweating at night...


Back last March she said something about the cost of keeping it going.


Well, I just sent her an email asking her to reconsider.  If it's a cost issue, I understand.  But, in reading her "reasoning" posts on the site itself, it didn't sound that way.  She seems disenchanted to me...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Sleuth on June 27, 2006, 01:39:07 AM
Thanks, Klaasend.

XXX - any games lately?   I see the Dodgers are in town here in about a month - I was working on setting up tickets for a group of 100 or so...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 27, 2006, 01:41:37 AM
Quote from: "Sleuth"
Thanks, Klaasend.

XXX - any games lately?   I see the Dodgers are in town here in about a month - I was working on setting up tickets for a group of 100 or so...


Well, I have a game tomorrow actually (if that's what you were asking).  Our basketball team isn't doing to well for the first half of the season, but our softball team moved up to "B" division recently.   Sounds funny...bragging on an old man sport like softball, but...;)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 01:42:47 AM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Sleuth"
Sorry, XXX, I'm not sure why it is coming down...Klaasend indicated she thought it was coming down in Apirl already...

Do you have the humidity with the 100 degrees ?   And LOL about the good reason for sweating at night...


Back last March she said something about the cost of keeping it going.


Well, I just sent her an email asking her to reconsider.  If it's a cost issue, I understand.  But, in reading her "reasoning" posts on the site itself, it didn't sound that way.  She seems disenchanted to me...


Where is that post, I missed it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Sleuth on June 27, 2006, 01:43:59 AM
Congrats on the softball team..I didn't know you played Basketball, just softball.  And in my book, and no sport is an old mans sport (other than bowling  :wink: )


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Sleuth on June 27, 2006, 01:44:58 AM
Klaasend - very top of her site.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 01:45:45 AM
I just looked at her site, I see what you mean.  Like she's giving up.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 01:46:55 AM
OK, now I'm really leaving.  

3rd - hi at my house was 90 today but dropped down to 83 pretty quickly.

Goodnight!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Sleuth on June 27, 2006, 01:49:10 AM
I'm out as well.   Nite Klaasend - thank you for all your work with SM.

Nite Strike - good luck with the game tomorrow.

And prayers for a "move forward with the investigation" result with the civil suit, and soon!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 27, 2006, 01:50:53 AM
Good night everyone!  See you all tomorrow...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 07:00:46 AM
Good Morning!  

Everyone must be sleeping in.......


Title: Good Morning :+)
Post by: Jerry from Ohio on June 27, 2006, 08:00:48 AM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Good Morning!  

Everyone must be sleeping in.......


 :) Well even thoug we really dont know each other Peaches  I will say good  Morning to you if no one else  will <g>  
  Warm humid  here in Ohio at 800  AM  and hope all is well with you this fine AM Ms <g>

   Jerry from Ohio  8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 08:09:56 AM
Good morning Peaches........

Good morning Jerry, nice to meet you....

and Morning to All~


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Kimmy53 on June 27, 2006, 08:16:47 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!

Hi Peaches, Jerry, Jacq. - good to see you all.  Anything up?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: WidgetTheMidget on June 27, 2006, 08:27:15 AM
Morning All .............

The Weather Is Clear & The Track Is Fast ................

HOLLAND BOUND DRUGS BUSTED IN COSTA RICA ..............

http://www.amcostarica.com/morenews2.htm

 :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: WidgetTheMidget on June 27, 2006, 08:30:49 AM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Good morning Peaches........

Good morning Jerry, nice to meet you....

and Morning to All~


BIG 6 Game Series .................

 8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: San on June 27, 2006, 08:31:21 AM
Good Morning Everyone


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 27, 2006, 08:39:59 AM
Morning Monks!

Furniture being delivered, cleaning lady shows up, Mr. Mermaid's Marine son sleeping after taking orders from Captain Morgan last night and garbage cans knocked over by naughty racoon!

Calgon take me away!

I went to work just to get away fromit all. :P


Title: Re: Good Morning :+)
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 08:45:34 AM
Quote from: "Jerry from Ohio"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Good Morning!  

Everyone must be sleeping in.......


 :) Well even thoug we really dont know each other Peaches  I will say good  Morning to you if no one else  will <g>  
  Warm humid  here in Ohio at 800  AM  and hope all is well with you this fine AM Ms <g>

   Jerry from Ohio  8)


Hi Jerry.  Hot and muggy here too... already.  Extremely foggy when I was driving to work about 6:30.  Looks like another rainy day.. and we need that.  I swear it hasn't rained in two months!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 27, 2006, 08:46:05 AM
Good Morning All!

What's new?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 27, 2006, 08:51:24 AM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Good Morning All!

What's new?


Hi Easy...

story is coming along nicely ~

I hear you are going to be collaborating on a novel.. congrats!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 27, 2006, 08:53:43 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Good Morning All!

What's new?


Hi Easy...

story is coming along nicely ~

I hear you are going to be collaborating on a novel.. congrats!!


We are talking about the idea.  It might be fun.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 27, 2006, 08:54:42 AM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Good Morning All!

What's new?


Hi Easy...

story is coming along nicely ~

I hear you are going to be collaborating on a novel.. congrats!!


We are talking about the idea.  It might be fun.


well you do know, I would need a signed copy....  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on June 27, 2006, 08:55:05 AM
Easy

Did you read my long e-mail?

If so, have I convinced you yet?

If not, I can do more long e-mails. :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 08:55:15 AM
Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Good morning Peaches........

Good morning Jerry, nice to meet you....

and Morning to All~


BIG 6 Game Series .................

 8)


Oh bring it on!
Especially those Damn Yankees! LOL  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Kimmy53 on June 27, 2006, 08:56:17 AM
It is raining here this a.m. too.  We surely need the rain too Peaches.  My garden is happy.

Hi Flyingmermaid - darn those raccoons.  When we were camping one unlatched a cooler and got into our food!  He also unzipped a little personal cooler and ate my peaches! :shock:  

Hiya Easy, Mrs. Red, Widget, and San - hope you are improving daily.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 27, 2006, 08:57:28 AM
Quote from: "Kimmy53"
It is raining here this a.m. too.  We surely need the rain too Peaches.  My garden is happy.

Hi Flyingmermaid - darn those raccoons.  When we were camping one unlatched a cooler and got into our food!  He also unzipped a little personal cooler and ate my peaches! :shock:  

Hiya Easy, Mrs. Red, Widget, and San - hope you are improving daily.


I didn't mean to be rude y'all... I only saw Easy when I came in

GOOD MORNING MONKEYS!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 27, 2006, 08:58:45 AM
Hey Peaches a racoon ate Kimmy's Peaches! :shock:

At least he didn't rip the screens - that really ticks off Mr. Mermaid!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 27, 2006, 09:07:27 AM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Easy

Did you read my long e-mail?

If so, have I convinced you yet?

If not, I can do more long e-mails. :lol:


lol Yeah, I read that one and planned to respond.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 27, 2006, 09:08:30 AM
Have a good day Monkeys.... going off to work... :evil:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on June 27, 2006, 09:09:56 AM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Easy

Did you read my long e-mail?

If so, have I convinced you yet?

If not, I can do more long e-mails. :lol:


lol Yeah, I read that one and planned to respond.


Good, 'cause my fingers were tired after that one.

It can change your life, you know. :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 27, 2006, 09:11:33 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Have a good day Monkeys.... going off to work... :evil:


Yeah Mrs. Red we know work is overated!


Title: Arn't they amazeing zlol
Post by: Jerry from Ohio on June 27, 2006, 09:13:23 AM
Quote from: "Kimmy53"
It is raining here this a.m. too.  We surely need the rain too Peaches.  My garden is happy.

Hi Flyingmermaid - darn those raccoons.  When we were camping one unlatched a cooler and got into our food!  He also unzipped a little personal cooler and ate my peaches! :shock:  

Hiya Easy, Mrs. Red, Widget, and San - hope you are improving daily.


  Arn't  Racoons  amazeing ?  I ad one for a sort time and was always facinated at how they can watch and figure out how to use latces  knobs  and even human made tools  to get just about anything tay want  so smart and cute  and if you raise them from babies they can and are so loveing .
  I raised and shown St Bernards  and mine  would watch and when I feed them then when se would get out she would go climb up te Kennel panel and lift the latch and let them out in te yard  they  just loved her  and would never Bark until she had let them out and then all hell would break loose  but se was always safe on the roof of the kennel .
  Really  i think they were telling her Thank you rather then trying to get her  and to her it was all one big game .
 was sorry that had to give her to a friend  when i moved to another job and state
  She dearly loved  grapes
  Jerry from Ohio :D


Title: Re: Arn't they amazeing zlol
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 27, 2006, 09:17:16 AM
Quote from: "Jerry from Ohio"
Quote from: "Kimmy53"
It is raining here this a.m. too.  We surely need the rain too Peaches.  My garden is happy.

Hi Flyingmermaid - darn those raccoons.  When we were camping one unlatched a cooler and got into our food!  He also unzipped a little personal cooler and ate my peaches! :shock:  

Hiya Easy, Mrs. Red, Widget, and San - hope you are improving daily.


  Arn't  Racoons  amazeing ?  I ad one for a sort time and was always facinated at how they can watch and figure out how to use latces  knobs  and even human made tools  to get just about anything tay want  so smart and cute  and if you raise them from babies they can and are so loveing .
  I raised and shown St Bernards  and mine  would watch and when I feed them then when se would get out she would go climb up te Kennel panel and lift the latch and let them out in te yard  they  just loved her  and would never Bark until she had let them out and then all hell would break loose  but se was always safe on the roof of the kennel .
  Really  i think they were telling her Thank you rather then trying to get her  and to her it was all one big game .
 was sorry that had to give her to a friend  when i moved to another job and state
  She dearly loved  grapes
  Jerry from Ohio :D


This one loves buffalo wings and only gets in the garbage for them.  The bones are picked absolutely clean.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: MominTN on June 27, 2006, 09:22:36 AM
Good morning!  What happened on Greta last night?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Kimmy53 on June 27, 2006, 09:26:25 AM
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
Hey Peaches a racoon ate Kimmy's Peaches! :shock:

At least he didn't rip the screens - that really ticks off Mr. Mermaid!


Oh - My hubby was furious!  He heard something in the middle of the night and found the mess. Here I am at 3:00 a.m. holding the flashlight picking up food it drug out.  I'm out in the pitch dark and my husband is running around like a wild man with a broom - hissing and scatting the raccoon.  :shock:  It was really funny but I couldn't laugh.  :lol:

I would almost be back asleep and my hubby would jump up again and hiss at the raccoon.  It was hiding under the camper the whole time. :shock:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: MominTN on June 27, 2006, 09:31:39 AM
I guess nothing really happened on Greta and that's why you are talking about raccoons.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on June 27, 2006, 09:41:28 AM
Does anyone except me keep getting booted out?

Should I take this personally? :shock:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 27, 2006, 09:43:44 AM
Quote from: "MominTN"
I guess nothing really happened on Greta and that's why you are talking about raccoons.


Nothing going on - waiting for some action from NY Judge.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 09:43:45 AM
My dad had a raccoon for a pet when he was a kid in Nebraska.  I can't imagine why.  Better a raccoon than a possum.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 27, 2006, 09:44:13 AM
Greta had Bo Ditel on and showed a tape of Joran being served in NY.  Old Bo came across bad, imo.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 27, 2006, 09:44:16 AM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Does anyone except me keep getting booted out?

Should I take this personally? :shock:  :lol:


NO and YES :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Starr on June 27, 2006, 09:44:32 AM
Good Morning

Klaas, I have been asked by Lousw to tell you he can't get back in since the site went down.

Thank you


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 09:46:01 AM
Quote from: "MominTN"
Good morning!  What happened on Greta last night?


She had Bo Dietl on and showed the entire footage of Bo serving the Sporter in the airport.  The ABC producer pushed Bo.  From what I could tell, Bo was doing all the talking and the Sporter was just glaring at him.  At least until the producer threw a coat over his head.  Like that was a big disguise.  How many 6'5" goons are parading thru the airport on any given day?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 27, 2006, 09:46:25 AM
On my way to work I passed a young boy of about eight years dancing alone on the sidewalk to some inner music as he waited for the school bus. On other days I have seen this boy having an imaginary sword fight or practicing karate kicks as he waits for the bus. His imaginary life must be very rich. I hope he's able to retain that spark as he grows up.  I guess Aruba has decided that no news is better than lies, so all is quiet.  I hope Natalee's family are sitting on some breaking news and thats why its quiet.  I would of thought that we would of heard something about the civil case by now but I'm not putting that much faith into that either.. I believe the Sloots would just allowed it to go into default after stalling as long as they can.  I think it would be a good time for Beth to write her story using her journal and I do believe that Aruba is scared of that..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: MominTN on June 27, 2006, 09:46:59 AM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Greta had Bo Ditel on and showed a tape of Joran being served in NY.  Old Bo came across bad, imo.


Was that the point of Greta showing the tape?  To make the server look bad and the judge feel sorry for Joran?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Kimmy53 on June 27, 2006, 09:47:19 AM
Quote from: "Peaches"
My dad had a raccoon for a pet when he was a kid in Nebraska.  I can't imagine why.  Better a raccoon than a possum.


This is true Peaches... I think possums are creepy.  Maybe it is the rat tail or that creepy grin  :shock:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 09:48:24 AM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Greta had Bo Ditel on and showed a tape of Joran being served in NY.  Old Bo came across bad, imo.


I agree that Bo should have been able to effect service a bit more quietly but I like Bo.  He was making a lotta noise trying to get the goon to make a mistake and say something.  He said on Greta that he has two daughters.  I'm sure the gravity of the situation just got the better of him.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 09:49:36 AM
Quote from: "Starr"
Good Morning

Klaas, I have been asked by Lousw to tell you he can't get back in since the site went down.

Thank you


Tell her to email Red or Tom.  red@scardmonkeys.com or tom@scaredmonkeys.com

They should be able to get her back in hopefully today.

Good Morning All!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on June 27, 2006, 09:50:06 AM
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Does anyone except me keep getting booted out?

Should I take this personally? :shock:  :lol:


NO and YES :wink:


Boo Hoo!!!!!! :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Starr on June 27, 2006, 09:52:45 AM
Klaas,, Lou said to thank you and he will do that now


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 27, 2006, 09:54:07 AM
I wish more people would of treated Joran like Bo did..  How would you talk to a person that you believed raped and killed a beautiful, trusting girl?  Bo did nothing wrong and it might be the last time anyone gets a chance to tell Joran how we feel in person..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 27, 2006, 09:55:11 AM
Someone is here, I hear the car horn, I hate that, why can't they come to the door.. I think I will put the sprinklers on them and cool them off..  Later..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 09:56:34 AM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Does anyone except me keep getting booted out?

Should I take this personally? :shock:  :lol:


NO and YES :wink:


Boo Hoo!!!!!! :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:


BT - sounds to me like you need to clear your cookies, have you tried that?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on June 27, 2006, 10:00:50 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Does anyone except me keep getting booted out?

Should I take this personally? :shock:  :lol:


NO and YES :wink:


Boo Hoo!!!!!! :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:


BT - sounds to me like you need to clear your cookies, have you tried that?


I haven't tried it, but I will.

Thanks!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 27, 2006, 10:03:02 AM
Quote from: "MominTN"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Greta had Bo Ditel on and showed a tape of Joran being served in NY.  Old Bo came across bad, imo.


Was that the point of Greta showing the tape?  To make the server look bad and the judge feel sorry for Joran?


But of course, M'am.  Old Joran made her feel like a young debutante on a brisk walk through Audubon Park, whose eyes were peeled at her every move and every word, just sucking him in like a cherry coke on Saturday afternoon.  Her aim is to please and she vainfully cheered on her native Dutch in the world cup until the final moments when the Refugees screamed "slaughter the referees."  It was at the point when Heli and Adriana cried "foul," that Greta swooped in to save Joran's soul from torture and despair from his many losses,  by outing the downright crudeness and insanity of Bo the Dietl whose tall soft body had tugged at the lawyer hostess like tight strings on a fiddle.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 10:15:07 AM
Quote from: "terryd270"
I wish more people would of treated Joran like Bo did..  How would you talk to a person that you believed raped and killed a beautiful, trusting girl?  Bo did nothing wrong and it might be the last time anyone gets a chance to tell Joran how we feel in person..


I'm sure with his background in law enforcement, he has a pretty good feel for who's a scumbag and who's not.  Cops can just tell.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 27, 2006, 10:24:54 AM
Hi Terry!

Big plans for the weekend?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 10:33:48 AM
Quick update on Uncle Mike...
It appears that yesterday's hearing again was delayed and no word on whether one will be happening tomorrow.

It seems that once again the lawyers over there are in need of more money, in addition to the thousands that has already been paid.

This is extortion and very discouraging to Mike and his family.

Getting some feedback from gov't officials but no real action.

Keep praying, and contacting your local gov't.

It would be most appreciated by myself, and the family.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 27, 2006, 11:05:43 AM
Jacquie - this is beyond exasperating!  It is simply extortion!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 27, 2006, 11:08:19 AM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "MominTN"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Greta had Bo Ditel on and showed a tape of Joran being served in NY.  Old Bo came across bad, imo.


Was that the point of Greta showing the tape?  To make the server look bad and the judge feel sorry for Joran?


But of course, M'am.  Old Joran made her feel like a young debutante on a brisk walk through Audubon Park, whose eyes were peeled at her every move and every word, just sucking him in like a cherry coke on Saturday afternoon.  Her aim is to please and she vainfully cheered on her native Dutch in the world cup until the final moments when the Refugees screamed "slaughter the referees."  It was at the point when Heli and Adriana cried "foul," that Greta swooped in to save Joran's soul from torture and despair from his many losses,  by outing the downright crudeness and insanity of Bo the Dietl whose tall soft body had tugged at the lawyer hostess like tight strings on a fiddle.


Tyler... what a way with words... wish I had said that!!  and I agree... I missed Greta last night.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 27, 2006, 11:09:15 AM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quick update on Uncle Mike...
It appears that yesterday's hearing again was delayed and no word on whether one will be happening tomorrow.

It seems that once again the lawyers over there are in need of more money, in addition to the thousands that has already been paid.

This is extortion and very discouraging to Mike and his family.

Getting some feedback from gov't officials but no real action.

Keep praying, and contacting your local gov't.

It would be most appreciated by myself, and the family.


Please have your friend send the email... this is beyond terrible!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 11:14:00 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quick update on Uncle Mike...
It appears that yesterday's hearing again was delayed and no word on whether one will be happening tomorrow.

It seems that once again the lawyers over there are in need of more money, in addition to the thousands that has already been paid.

This is extortion and very discouraging to Mike and his family.

Getting some feedback from gov't officials but no real action.

Keep praying, and contacting your local gov't.

It would be most appreciated by myself, and the family.


Please have your friend send the email... this is beyond terrible!!


I will.

I say bust him out vigilante style.

the least the army could do for all his years fighting for his country.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 11:15:23 AM
Mmmmm...orning Monkeys.  I think I'll eat the three peaches in the refrigerator now.  All this talk of peaches (and Peaches) has reminded me of them.  Aruba appears to be percolating now.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 27, 2006, 11:25:31 AM
Hey AZ - good morning to you!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Anna on June 27, 2006, 11:32:12 AM
.
Good Morning!

WIDGET, Interesting drug bust!  My, they are just all over the place with those drugs, the Dutch, for such a small country.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: San on June 27, 2006, 11:37:00 AM
O/T - Just spoke to my friend that I worked with and asked her when is she taking vacation and was she going anywhere (last year she got stuck in the Katrina nightmare).  She told me her husband asked her if she wanted to go to Aruba and she got in a panick and said no way they are covering a murder and the island is corrupt.  She also said that she could never go there because she knew I would be mad at her.  I told her tourism is down and they are throwing airfares at people to go there.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Buckeye on June 27, 2006, 11:39:09 AM
Been reading around.  This was posted on scrux yesterday.  Thought it was good.


Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:02 am    Post subject:    

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
I think it's significant that the HI lie was made up before they encountered the Twittys......in the first place it proves the lie was not made up due to being afraid AFTER Jug supposedly got angry in front of the VDS house.

In turn, this lie that Jug scared him, shows a willingness to 1. blame someone else, and 2. play the baby card while blaming someone else.

Where 2 is concerned, you don't see Joran being scared at any time thereafter. He was not scared in jail; he was cocky. He was not scared when abruptly confronted by that CA reporter; he was extremely calm. He was not scared of Greta nor of that ABC Primetime dude; he was a calm and a bit martryish. He was not scared ever at all except for his CLAIM to have been scared of Jug that one night that he claims made him tell the HI lie.....however, as we know too, according to his interview on Greta that story was made up before they arrived to face Jug.

What this suggests to me is that 2KJ or parts thereof, knew they did not leave her at the HI and didn't want to say where they really left her, which of course is what Joran says later on when he comes out with the beach story....he didn't want his parents to think he left a girl on the beach alone. So in fact, the HI story was made up out of fear of Joran's parents not out of fear of Jug, hence Joran is taking responsibility for the HI lie AND making it out of fear of his parents. Yet he goes on to blame fear of Jug?

Now my thoughts trickle down to this still ongoing blaming of Natalee's family for being angry and causing the lie. The truth probably is that all Joran wanted was a diversion from his own behavior that night....and I hardly think simply leaving a well girl on the beach would elicit such fear from a cocky cad like Joran comes across as. His 'I'm sorry I wasn't a good boy mommy and daddy' line is a joke! And it is my opinion that it screams Joran has his parents snowed big time.

But why say she was dropped at the HI if they knew she was not. They had to know the cameras were everywhere. They had to know all the cops had to do was check them and discover this lie right away. Yet, the cops did not check the tapes right away to see Natalee being returned to the HI so they could start looking eslewhere for her.....no, they arrested 2 men as if the story were true without checking it out first. ALE jumped in on the HI story like nobodies business! They did not do their jobs. And I have to wonder if it was not just J2K but also the cops who planned this HI lie diversion ahead of time.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 11:39:41 AM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quick update on Uncle Mike...
It appears that yesterday's hearing again was delayed and no word on whether one will be happening tomorrow.

It seems that once again the lawyers over there are in need of more money, in addition to the thousands that has already been paid.

This is extortion and very discouraging to Mike and his family.

Getting some feedback from gov't officials but no real action.

Keep praying, and contacting your local gov't.

It would be most appreciated by myself, and the family.


Please have your friend send the email... this is beyond terrible!!


I will.

I say bust him out vigilante style.

the least the army could do for all his years fighting for his country.


You took the words right out of my mouth.  Where is Ross Perot when you need him?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: kuoka on June 27, 2006, 11:48:04 AM
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
Quote from: "MominTN"
I guess nothing really happened on Greta and that's why you are talking about raccoons.


Nothing going on - waiting for some action from NY Judge.


Just give some people a chance to catch up. Sheesh. Greta aired the uncut video of Joran Vader SLOP being served papers when he came out of customs in NY. It also showed how Dieter was pushed by the ABC producer and how he defended himself.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: kuoka on June 27, 2006, 11:49:01 AM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Does anyone except me keep getting booted out?

Should I take this personally? :shock:  :lol:


I don't but no.  :lol:  Email me with the symptoms and I can see if I can help.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: San on June 27, 2006, 11:59:33 AM
Quote from: "kuoka"
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
Quote from: "MominTN"
I guess nothing really happened on Greta and that's why you are talking about raccoons.


Nothing going on - waiting for some action from NY Judge.


Just give some people a chance to catch up. Sheesh. Greta aired the uncut video of Joran Vader SLOP being served papers when he came out of customs in NY. It also showed how Dieter was pushed by the ABC producer and how he defended himself.

That producer should have known better than stepping in front of Bo and trying to stop him.  If I remember correctly Bo said this is official business.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 12:12:48 PM
Buckeye, in response to the ideas about the HI dropoff lie, I believe that Joran and Deepak made up the HI dropoff because that was the modus operandi all the 20 times before that nothing happened.  Their game was to drug a girl at C&C's, and get her into a car before she passed out cold.  They then gang raped at will, as she was unconscious for several hours.  As dawn approached and the girl started to regain consciousness, they dropped her off near her hotel.  She wandered back to her room, went home that day, and that was that.  It had worked in the past, and so they created the lie based on past behavior.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on June 27, 2006, 12:14:40 PM
Quote from: "kuoka"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Does anyone except me keep getting booted out?

Should I take this personally? :shock:  :lol:


I don't but no.  :lol:  Email me with the symptoms and I can see if I can help.


Hello,

Your lesson for today is in the mail. :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on June 27, 2006, 12:16:21 PM
Monkeys,

I must have been a VERY good girl.

Our computer guy here at work just walked into my office a few minutes ago and brought me the most beautiful new flat-screen monitor. And it's HUGE!

I don't know if this is a concession to my old age or not, but I am a very happy girlie this afternoon! :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 12:16:45 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Buckeye, in response to the ideas about the HI dropoff lie, I believe that Joran and Deepak made up the HI dropoff because that was the modus operandi all the 20 times before that nothing happened.  Their game was to drug a girl at C&C's, and get her into a car before she passed out cold.  They then gang raped at will, as she was unconscious for several hours.  As dawn approached and the girl started to regain consciousness, they dropped her off near her hotel.  She wandered back to her room, went home that day, and that was that.  It had worked in the past, and so they created the lie based on past behavior.


Exactly.  These boys are nothing if not creatures of habit.  Heavy on the creature.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 12:17:29 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Monkeys,

I must have been a VERY good girl.

Our computer guy here at work just walked into my office a few minutes ago and brought me the most beautiful new flat-screen monitor. And it's HUGE!

I don't know if this is a concession to my old age or not, but I am a very happy girlie this afternoon! :D


I'm jealous.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 27, 2006, 12:18:16 PM
Hello everyone!  ;)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 12:19:23 PM
Hi Third.  How's are ya?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 12:20:37 PM
Joran and Deepak most likely didn't think the cameras would be a problem.  First, the police on Aruba move slowly, if at all, and these kids treat them as if they are keystone cops.  Second, GVC's Dad's security company installed and serviced the cameras.  Third, they could likely find someone to doctor or erase or simply lose the camera tape.  Joran and Deepak didn't plan ahead that far because they knew they had multiple options and dealt with issues as they arose.  Besides, they were practiced at fudging their stories and changing them.  It would not be a problem to say oops, I meant we dropped her here, out of camera range, not there in the line of the camera.   These guys didn't really plan this out in detail at the beginning because they didn't expect it to explode on them.  They had done this many times before and really didn't think one more girl would be a problem, even if she didn't show up.  Blame it on someone else--a beach bum, another tourist, anybody else.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 27, 2006, 12:21:18 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Buckeye, in response to the ideas about the HI dropoff lie, I believe that Joran and Deepak made up the HI dropoff because that was the modus operandi all the 20 times before that nothing happened.  Their game was to drug a girl at C&C's, and get her into a car before she passed out cold.  They then gang raped at will, as she was unconscious for several hours.  As dawn approached and the girl started to regain consciousness, they dropped her off near her hotel.  She wandered back to her room, went home that day, and that was that.  It had worked in the past, and so they created the lie based on past behavior.


Exactly.  These boys are nothing if not creatures of habit.  Heavy on the creature.


Yeah, but I believe the main reason for the lie was to throw the dogs off the scent...so to speak. They needed to divert attention as far away from the reality of the circumstances as possible.  So, like you said, they used their past history to their advantage.  And, it would have been 100% effective had the invetsigation stayed "in house".  Unfortunately for them, the eyes of the world begand to watch... :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: blah on June 27, 2006, 12:22:11 PM
Quote from: "Buckeye"
Been reading around.  This was posted on scrux yesterday.  Thought it was good.


Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:02 am    Post subject:    

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
I think it's significant that the HI lie was made up before they encountered the Twittys......in the first place it proves the lie was not made up due to being afraid AFTER Jug supposedly got angry in front of the VDS house.

In turn, this lie that Jug scared him, shows a willingness to 1. blame someone else, and 2. play the baby card while blaming someone else.

Where 2 is concerned, you don't see Joran being scared at any time thereafter. He was not scared in jail; he was cocky. He was not scared when abruptly confronted by that CA reporter; he was extremely calm. He was not scared of Greta nor of that ABC Primetime dude; he was a calm and a bit martryish. He was not scared ever at all except for his CLAIM to have been scared of Jug that one night that he claims made him tell the HI lie.....however, as we know too, according to his interview on Greta that story was made up before they arrived to face Jug.

What this suggests to me is that 2KJ or parts thereof, knew they did not leave her at the HI and didn't want to say where they really left her, which of course is what Joran says later on when he comes out with the beach story....he didn't want his parents to think he left a girl on the beach alone. So in fact, the HI story was made up out of fear of Joran's parents not out of fear of Jug, hence Joran is taking responsibility for the HI lie AND making it out of fear of his parents. Yet he goes on to blame fear of Jug?

Now my thoughts trickle down to this still ongoing blaming of Natalee's family for being angry and causing the lie. The truth probably is that all Joran wanted was a diversion from his own behavior that night....and I hardly think simply leaving a well girl on the beach would elicit such fear from a cocky cad like Joran comes across as. His 'I'm sorry I wasn't a good boy mommy and daddy' line is a joke! And it is my opinion that it screams Joran has his parents snowed big time.

But why say she was dropped at the HI if they knew she was not. They had to know the cameras were everywhere. They had to know all the cops had to do was check them and discover this lie right away. Yet, the cops did not check the tapes right away to see Natalee being returned to the HI so they could start looking eslewhere for her.....no, they arrested 2 men as if the story were true without checking it out first. ALE jumped in on the HI story like nobodies business! They did not do their jobs. And I have to wonder if it was not just J2K but also the cops who planned this HI lie diversion ahead of time.



actually, they did already know it was a lie.  But they went ahead and arrested the 2 security guards anyway.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: kuoka on June 27, 2006, 12:24:35 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"

Hello,

Your lesson for today is in the mail. :lol:


Cowabunga! I can't wait to start my studies!! TY MOM!  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 27, 2006, 12:25:00 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Joran and Deepak most likely didn't think the cameras would be a problem.  First, the police on Aruba move slowly, if at all, and these kids treat them as if they are keystone cops.  Second, GVC's Dad's security company installed and serviced the cameras.  Third, they could likely find someone to doctor or erase or simply lose the camera tape.  Joran and Deepak didn't plan ahead that far because they knew they had multiple options and dealt with issues as they arose.  Besides, they were practiced at fudging their stories and changing them.  It would not be a problem to say oops, I meant we dropped her here, out of camera range, not there in the line of the camera.   These guys didn't really plan this out in detail at the beginning because they didn't expect it to explode on them.  They had done this many times before and really didn't think one more girl would be a problem, even if she didn't show up.  Blame it on someone else--a beach bum, another tourist, anybody else.


I don't think they were that smart.  I don't think they really thought anything through...especially the fact that they'd get "busted" for lying when no footage existed proving their "story".  Again, I truly believe these guys counted on the investigation remaining internal, and they'd have nothing to worry about...

I think people sometimes give them far too much credit in here for their intellect...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 12:25:36 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "Peaches"


Exactly.  These boys are nothing if not creatures of habit.  Heavy on the creature.


Yeah, but I believe the main reason for the lie was to throw the dogs off the scent...so to speak. They needed to divert attention as far away from the reality of the circumstances as possible.  So, like you said, they used their past history to their advantage.  And, it would have been 100% effective had the invetsigation stayed "in house".  Unfortunately for them, the eyes of the world begand to watch... :roll:


Absolutely agree.  Even though "something went wrong," they acted as if it had all gone exactly as it had in the past.  Ironic that their past behavior that they fell back upon was so unacceptable as to be labeled criminal by the Americans.  I mean, since when is drugging and gang raping considered normal behavior for teenaged boys?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: kuoka on June 27, 2006, 12:26:11 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Monkeys,

I must have been a VERY good girl.

Our computer guy here at work just walked into my office a few minutes ago and brought me the most beautiful new flat-screen monitor. And it's HUGE!

I don't know if this is a concession to my old age or not, but I am a very happy girlie this afternoon! :D


Yowza! Congrats BT! You'll love it. I have two and I absolutely love em! Next time though, tell you IT people they could've gotten it at a discount from moi.  :wink:  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 27, 2006, 12:26:30 PM
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "Buckeye"
Been reading around.  This was posted on scrux yesterday.  Thought it was good.


Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:02 am    Post subject:    

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
I think it's significant that the HI lie was made up before they encountered the Twittys......in the first place it proves the lie was not made up due to being afraid AFTER Jug supposedly got angry in front of the VDS house.

In turn, this lie that Jug scared him, shows a willingness to 1. blame someone else, and 2. play the baby card while blaming someone else.

Where 2 is concerned, you don't see Joran being scared at any time thereafter. He was not scared in jail; he was cocky. He was not scared when abruptly confronted by that CA reporter; he was extremely calm. He was not scared of Greta nor of that ABC Primetime dude; he was a calm and a bit martryish. He was not scared ever at all except for his CLAIM to have been scared of Jug that one night that he claims made him tell the HI lie.....however, as we know too, according to his interview on Greta that story was made up before they arrived to face Jug.

What this suggests to me is that 2KJ or parts thereof, knew they did not leave her at the HI and didn't want to say where they really left her, which of course is what Joran says later on when he comes out with the beach story....he didn't want his parents to think he left a girl on the beach alone. So in fact, the HI story was made up out of fear of Joran's parents not out of fear of Jug, hence Joran is taking responsibility for the HI lie AND making it out of fear of his parents. Yet he goes on to blame fear of Jug?

Now my thoughts trickle down to this still ongoing blaming of Natalee's family for being angry and causing the lie. The truth probably is that all Joran wanted was a diversion from his own behavior that night....and I hardly think simply leaving a well girl on the beach would elicit such fear from a cocky cad like Joran comes across as. His 'I'm sorry I wasn't a good boy mommy and daddy' line is a joke! And it is my opinion that it screams Joran has his parents snowed big time.

But why say she was dropped at the HI if they knew she was not. They had to know the cameras were everywhere. They had to know all the cops had to do was check them and discover this lie right away. Yet, the cops did not check the tapes right away to see Natalee being returned to the HI so they could start looking eslewhere for her.....no, they arrested 2 men as if the story were true without checking it out first. ALE jumped in on the HI story like nobodies business! They did not do their jobs. And I have to wonder if it was not just J2K but also the cops who planned this HI lie diversion ahead of time.



actually, they did already know it was a lie.  But they went ahead and arrested the 2 security guards anyway.


Do we know this as fact, or is it part of a conspiracy theory?  I believe what you say here, but I admit it's purely speculation on my part...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Buckeye on June 27, 2006, 12:27:03 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Buckeye, in response to the ideas about the HI dropoff lie, I believe that Joran and Deepak made up the HI dropoff because that was the modus operandi all the 20 times before that nothing happened.  Their game was to drug a girl at C&C's, and get her into a car before she passed out cold.  They then gang raped at will, as she was unconscious for several hours.  As dawn approached and the girl started to regain consciousness, they dropped her off near her hotel.  She wandered back to her room, went home that day, and that was that.  It had worked in the past, and so they created the lie based on past behavior.


I agree.  It just makes me crazy when they say how scared the 17 yr. old Joran was so he lied.  The lie was preordained and I've never seen Joran "scared".


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on June 27, 2006, 12:27:45 PM
Quote from: "kuoka"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Monkeys,

I must have been a VERY good girl.

Our computer guy here at work just walked into my office a few minutes ago and brought me the most beautiful new flat-screen monitor. And it's HUGE!

I don't know if this is a concession to my old age or not, but I am a very happy girlie this afternoon! :D


Yowza! Congrats BT! You'll love it. I have two and I absolutely love em! Next time though, tell you IT people they could've gotten it at a discount from moi.  :wink:  :wink:


We're a non-profit. We buy such cheap crap that you've probably never even heard of it. :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 27, 2006, 12:28:39 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Buckeye, in response to the ideas about the HI dropoff lie, I believe that Joran and Deepak made up the HI dropoff because that was the modus operandi all the 20 times before that nothing happened.  Their game was to drug a girl at C&C's, and get her into a car before she passed out cold.  They then gang raped at will, as she was unconscious for several hours.  As dawn approached and the girl started to regain consciousness, they dropped her off near her hotel.  She wandered back to her room, went home that day, and that was that.  It had worked in the past, and so they created the lie based on past behavior.


Good afternoon everyone.

AZ, I agree.  But I don't think this gang of PIMPLES was smart enough to figure this ploy all by themselves.  They either had someone directing them in order to have them make porno videos, or they learned this method from someone older who has gotten away with it for years.  The poor girls & women who were the victims before Natalee.  While they were lucky enough to escape with their lives, they have to feel personally violated, degraded & probably angry & ashamed at themselves for getting in such a situation.  I hope they have worked through all that and now place the blame on the perps, instead of themselves.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: kuoka on June 27, 2006, 12:28:40 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"

We're a non-profit. We buy such cheap crap that you've probably never even heard of it. :lol:


Well in that case... Nevermind.  :P  :lol:  :lol:  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 12:30:25 PM
Thirdstrike, I agree.  I think these goons just reacted and did what they usually do--lie and dissemble when called on the carpet for being bad boys.  They didn't connive or plan or orchestrate Natalee's death.  It happened in the course of the "boys will be boys" drugging and gang raping that occurs all the time on Aruba.  I think Joran actually believes that if she hadn't fought him, she would have been fine, just like the others he gang raped and dropped near their hotels.  Thus, he blames Natalee for "making" him kill her when she resisted their rape and violence against her.  This is just deviant thinking to the max, but we've seen it demonstrated in everything this kid does.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 27, 2006, 12:33:46 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "Peaches"


Exactly.  These boys are nothing if not creatures of habit.  Heavy on the creature.


Yeah, but I believe the main reason for the lie was to throw the dogs off the scent...so to speak. They needed to divert attention as far away from the reality of the circumstances as possible.  So, like you said, they used their past history to their advantage.  And, it would have been 100% effective had the invetsigation stayed "in house".  Unfortunately for them, the eyes of the world begand to watch... :roll:


Absolutely agree.  Even though "something went wrong," they acted as if it had all gone exactly as it had in the past.  Ironic that their past behavior that they fell back upon was so unacceptable as to be labeled criminal by the Americans.  I mean, since when is drugging and gang raping considered normal behavior for teenaged boys?


Yeah, but I don't believe they included the "drugging and raping" part in their "rebound story" as part of their past history...ya know?  Not sure it'd do much to help their case...if you know what I mean.  ;)

But, what's interesting here is that in almost every lie, there are elements of truth in order to help give it more credibility...you know?  That's why I pay particular attention to things like when they say Natalee "fell down" (which, IMO, would help explain any head trauma if they found her body)...or, the fact that she wanted to "see sharks" by the lighthouse(which again, IMO, help explain the fact that she was in that area of her own accord had they found her body there).  Things are often admitted between the lines of a lie.  It's proven human psychology...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Sam on June 27, 2006, 12:36:25 PM
Hi Monkeys,

Just a quick drive by. I had thought about adding to the story Easy and some others have been writing but Tylergal has got it to a point it will take more skill than I have to go further. Maybe Easy or Mrs Red can or even Anna. Maybe even someone who I never mentioned. It really lets me know how talented so many of our Monkeys are.

Even Terry270 when he wrote about the child dancing (on this forum a few pages back) sounded like he might be able to add to the story.

Oh Klaas, Lousw is a male. I am almost positive. Not sure on Terry. LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 12:37:24 PM
I've just had a thought that perhaps this is why so many people on that island can defend Joran and look you straight in the eye when doing it.  When violence and rape and degradation are seen over and over, and it becomes commonplace, then people become jaded and accept it as a part of their life.  It no longer carries the horror and disgust that these actions cause in normal people in normal societies.  Perhaps this is why these young girls defend Joran and why the older people in that society are not up in arms and trying to stop this behavior.  They've seen it, over and over again, and it's become, if not acceptable, at least not criminal to them.  It strikes me that their attitude is more like why the big deal over this when the Americans are outraged and demand answers.  Years of this behavior, maybe even generations of it, have jaded them.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Buckeye on June 27, 2006, 12:39:01 PM
And, since porn was on when they passed LaCabana....maybe porn was on at the house when she was there (and drugged).  He was on line at 3am (porn on). He (they) left her alone for a minute, she came to, got a call off...they walked back in...and silenced her...no drop off at the tourist hotel, for this one.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 27, 2006, 12:39:15 PM
Been lurking on and off....trying to get some yard work done while it isn't raining, lol. Anyway.....I am a bit stymied as to this skit on Greta last night. I only saw the last few words spoken to Bo and wondered what they had talked about. Reading on different boards this am......now I know. I do not understand the purpose of it. There has to be a reason this was shown at this particular time and I read and think of different reasons in my own mind, but I can't pull it all together. There is a reason this is being repeated on-air. Surely it can't be out of pure desperation for a story to fill in time on Greta's show. What the hell is going on? I read the emails to Greta today on her Gretawire.....she really is taking some crap in ways and yet, somehow I can't help but think that is exactly what she expected. I don't even know what the HAY I AM saying anymore, lol.....I am sooooooooooo confused, lol. :?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: blah on June 27, 2006, 12:40:13 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "Buckeye"
Been reading around.  This was posted on scrux yesterday.  Thought it was good.


Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:02 am    Post subject:    

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I think it's significant that the HI lie was made up before they encountered the Twittys......in the first place it proves the lie was not made up due to being afraid AFTER Jug supposedly got angry in front of the VDS house.

In turn, this lie that Jug scared him, shows a willingness to 1. blame someone else, and 2. play the baby card while blaming someone else.

Where 2 is concerned, you don't see Joran being scared at any time thereafter. He was not scared in jail; he was cocky. He was not scared when abruptly confronted by that CA reporter; he was extremely calm. He was not scared of Greta nor of that ABC Primetime dude; he was a calm and a bit martryish. He was not scared ever at all except for his CLAIM to have been scared of Jug that one night that he claims made him tell the HI lie.....however, as we know too, according to his interview on Greta that story was made up before they arrived to face Jug.

What this suggests to me is that 2KJ or parts thereof, knew they did not leave her at the HI and didn't want to say where they really left her, which of course is what Joran says later on when he comes out with the beach story....he didn't want his parents to think he left a girl on the beach alone. So in fact, the HI story was made up out of fear of Joran's parents not out of fear of Jug, hence Joran is taking responsibility for the HI lie AND making it out of fear of his parents. Yet he goes on to blame fear of Jug?

Now my thoughts trickle down to this still ongoing blaming of Natalee's family for being angry and causing the lie. The truth probably is that all Joran wanted was a diversion from his own behavior that night....and I hardly think simply leaving a well girl on the beach would elicit such fear from a cocky cad like Joran comes across as. His 'I'm sorry I wasn't a good boy mommy and daddy' line is a joke! And it is my opinion that it screams Joran has his parents snowed big time.

But why say she was dropped at the HI if they knew she was not. They had to know the cameras were everywhere. They had to know all the cops had to do was check them and discover this lie right away. Yet, the cops did not check the tapes right away to see Natalee being returned to the HI so they could start looking eslewhere for her.....no, they arrested 2 men as if the story were true without checking it out first. ALE jumped in on the HI story like nobodies business! They did not do their jobs. And I have to wonder if it was not just J2K but also the cops who planned this HI lie diversion ahead of time.



actually, they did already know it was a lie.  But they went ahead and arrested the 2 security guards anyway.


Do we know this as fact, or is it part of a conspiracy theory?  I believe what you say here, but I admit it's purely speculation on my part...



I dont belive in consipracy theories


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 12:40:17 PM
Quote from: "Sam"
Hi Monkeys,

Just a quick drive by. I had thought about adding to the story Easy and some others have been writing but Tylergal has got it to a point it will take more skill than I have to go further. Maybe Easy or Mrs Red can or even Anna. Maybe even someone who I never mentioned. It really lets me know how talented so many of our Monkeys are.

Even Terry270 when he wrote about the child dancing (on this forum a few pages back) sounded like he might be able to add to the story.

Oh Klaas, Lousw is a male. I am almost positive. Not sure on Terry. LOL


oops, thank you!  Terry is also male  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 12:40:59 PM
Of course, they knew enough to leave out the drugging and raping part of the story to the Americans.  But they did admit parts of it to their own people.  For example, Joran told his mother about Natalee's underwear and what he did to her.  This shows acceptance in their own society, but an awareness that he needed to be quiet about these things around the Americans because they didn't accept this behavior.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: kuoka on June 27, 2006, 12:41:55 PM
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
Been lurking on and off....trying to get some yard work done while it isn't raining, lol. Anyway.....I am a bit stymied as to this skit on Greta last night. I only saw the last few words spoken to Bo and wondered what they had talked about. Reading on different boards this am......now I know. I do not understand the purpose of it. There has to be a reason this was shown at this particular time and I read and think of different reasons in my own mind, but I can't pull it all together. There is a reason this is being repeated on-air. Surely it can't be out of pure desperation for a story to fill in time on Greta's show. What the hell is going on? I read the emails to Greta today on her Gretawire.....she really is taking some crap in ways and yet, somehow I can't help but think that is exactly what she expected. I don't even know what the HAY I AM saying anymore, lol.....I am sooooooooooo confused, lol. :?


I have a theory as to why they're airing it all of a sudden. MONEY. As unfortunate as it sounds, Joran makes the networks $$. Just my $.02 worth anywho...  :wink:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 12:42:24 PM
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
Been lurking on and off....trying to get some yard work done while it isn't raining, lol. Anyway.....I am a bit stymied as to this skit on Greta last night. I only saw the last few words spoken to Bo and wondered what they had talked about. Reading on different boards this am......now I know. I do not understand the purpose of it. There has to be a reason this was shown at this particular time and I read and think of different reasons in my own mind, but I can't pull it all together. There is a reason this is being repeated on-air. Surely it can't be out of pure desperation for a story to fill in time on Greta's show. What the hell is going on? I read the emails to Greta today on her Gretawire.....she really is taking some crap in ways and yet, somehow I can't help but think that is exactly what she expected. I don't even know what the HAY I AM saying anymore, lol.....I am sooooooooooo confused, lol. :?


Sure it is part of some agenda....

As for confusion, join the club. :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 12:42:33 PM
Quote from: "kuoka"
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
Been lurking on and off....trying to get some yard work done while it isn't raining, lol. Anyway.....I am a bit stymied as to this skit on Greta last night. I only saw the last few words spoken to Bo and wondered what they had talked about. Reading on different boards this am......now I know. I do not understand the purpose of it. There has to be a reason this was shown at this particular time and I read and think of different reasons in my own mind, but I can't pull it all together. There is a reason this is being repeated on-air. Surely it can't be out of pure desperation for a story to fill in time on Greta's show. What the hell is going on? I read the emails to Greta today on her Gretawire.....she really is taking some crap in ways and yet, somehow I can't help but think that is exactly what she expected. I don't even know what the HAY I AM saying anymore, lol.....I am sooooooooooo confused, lol. :?


I have a theory as to why they're airing it all of a sudden. MONEY. As unfortunate as it sounds, Joran makes the networks $$. Just my $.02 worth anywho...  :wink:  :lol:


I agree.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 27, 2006, 12:43:47 PM
Quote from: "Buckeye"
And, since porn was on when they passed LaCabana....maybe porn was on at the house when she was there (and drugged).  He was on line at 3am (porn on). He (they) left her alone for a minute, she came to, got a call off...they walked back in...and silenced her...no drop off at the tourist hotel, for this one.


Yeah, but I think porn watching for an 17 year old kid is pretty normal.  Not that it should be morally accepted.  But, I don't think it's necessarily a "red flag" here...

Remember, rape is more about power then sex.  If these boys did, in fact, rape Natalee, it was much more about forcing her to succumb then the actual act of succumbing...you know.  IMO, I wouldn't attribute it to porn watching at all...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Buckeye on June 27, 2006, 12:44:12 PM
Maybe Taco agreed to an exclusive when the verdict is in, if Greta aired the tape.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 12:45:50 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "kuoka"
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
Been lurking on and off....trying to get some yard work done while it isn't raining, lol. Anyway.....I am a bit stymied as to this skit on Greta last night. I only saw the last few words spoken to Bo and wondered what they had talked about. Reading on different boards this am......now I know. I do not understand the purpose of it. There has to be a reason this was shown at this particular time and I read and think of different reasons in my own mind, but I can't pull it all together. There is a reason this is being repeated on-air. Surely it can't be out of pure desperation for a story to fill in time on Greta's show. What the hell is going on? I read the emails to Greta today on her Gretawire.....she really is taking some crap in ways and yet, somehow I can't help but think that is exactly what she expected. I don't even know what the HAY I AM saying anymore, lol.....I am sooooooooooo confused, lol. :?


I have a theory as to why they're airing it all of a sudden. MONEY. As unfortunate as it sounds, Joran makes the networks $$. Just my $.02 worth anywho...  :wink:  :lol:


I agree.


I agree, too.  Plus, the reality is that it has been 5 weeks since the court hearing.  The judge is due with a decision sooner now, rather than later.  Common sense says if we run this video again now, we have good odds of appearing to predict the decision being announced.  It's playing the odds and the odds say the decision will be here soon, very soon now.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Buckeye on June 27, 2006, 12:45:58 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "Buckeye"
And, since porn was on when they passed LaCabana....maybe porn was on at the house when she was there (and drugged).  He was on line at 3am (porn on). He (they) left her alone for a minute, she came to, got a call off...they walked back in...and silenced her...no drop off at the tourist hotel, for this one.


Yeah, but I think porn watching for an 17 year old kid is pretty normal.  Not that it should be morally accepted.  But, I don't think it's necessarily a "red flag" here...

Remember, rape is more about power then sex.  If these boys did, in fact, rape Natalee, it was much more about forcing her to succumb then the actual act of succumbing...you know.  IMO, I wouldn't attribute it to porn watching at all...


Not due to the porn....just not giving him a time alibi because he was on line....he could have been on line with her at the house.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 27, 2006, 12:46:51 PM
Quote from: "kuoka"
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
Been lurking on and off....trying to get some yard work done while it isn't raining, lol. Anyway.....I am a bit stymied as to this skit on Greta last night. I only saw the last few words spoken to Bo and wondered what they had talked about. Reading on different boards this am......now I know. I do not understand the purpose of it. There has to be a reason this was shown at this particular time and I read and think of different reasons in my own mind, but I can't pull it all together. There is a reason this is being repeated on-air. Surely it can't be out of pure desperation for a story to fill in time on Greta's show. What the hell is going on? I read the emails to Greta today on her Gretawire.....she really is taking some crap in ways and yet, somehow I can't help but think that is exactly what she expected. I don't even know what the HAY I AM saying anymore, lol.....I am sooooooooooo confused, lol. :?


I have a theory as to why they're airing it all of a sudden. MONEY. As unfortunate as it sounds, Joran makes the networks $$. Just my $.02 worth anywho...  :wink:  :lol:


That's ALL it was about...ratings!!  There's a reason this case has been so much in the media spotlight.  It's popular (as bad as that sounds).  People want to see what happens next.  And, Greta has benefitted as much as ANYONE from this popularity.  Why should we expect anything different now?  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 12:47:40 PM
Quote from: "Buckeye"
Maybe Taco agreed to an exclusive when the verdict is in, if Greta aired the tape.


if Joe thinks that by showing this tape it will garner sympathy for Joran, I think he is mistaken.

Shows him for what he is. A coward.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 12:48:46 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
I've just had a thought that perhaps this is why so many people on that island can defend Joran and look you straight in the eye when doing it.  When violence and rape and degradation are seen over and over, and it becomes commonplace, then people become jaded and accept it as a part of their life.  It no longer carries the horror and disgust that these actions cause in normal people in normal societies.  Perhaps this is why these young girls defend Joran and why the older people in that society are not up in arms and trying to stop this behavior.  They've seen it, over and over again, and it's become, if not acceptable, at least not criminal to them.  It strikes me that their attitude is more like why the big deal over this when the Americans are outraged and demand answers.  Years of this behavior, maybe even generations of it, have jaded them.


I believe the word you are looking for is DE-SENSITIZED.  

AZ, I think you and I must have been seperated at birth.  Your thoughts mirror mine.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Buckeye on June 27, 2006, 12:52:12 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "AZLady"
I've just had a thought that perhaps this is why so many people on that island can defend Joran and look you straight in the eye when doing it.  When violence and rape and degradation are seen over and over, and it becomes commonplace, then people become jaded and accept it as a part of their life.  It no longer carries the horror and disgust that these actions cause in normal people in normal societies.  Perhaps this is why these young girls defend Joran and why the older people in that society are not up in arms and trying to stop this behavior.  They've seen it, over and over again, and it's become, if not acceptable, at least not criminal to them.  It strikes me that their attitude is more like why the big deal over this when the Americans are outraged and demand answers.  Years of this behavior, maybe even generations of it, have jaded them.


I believe the word you are looking for is DE-SENSITIZED.  

AZ, I think you and I must have been seperated at birth.  Your thoughts mirror mine.


And also DE-VALUED.  It was ONLY a "loose" American tourist girl....they get what they ask for....You still hear this song out of them.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 27, 2006, 12:55:38 PM
Quote from: "Sam"
Hi Monkeys,

Just a quick drive by. I had thought about adding to the story Easy and some others have been writing but Tylergal has got it to a point it will take more skill than I have to go further. Maybe Easy or Mrs Red can or even Anna. Maybe even someone who I never mentioned. It really lets me know how talented so many of our Monkeys are.

Even Terry270 when he wrote about the child dancing (on this forum a few pages back) sounded like he might be able to add to the story.

Oh Klaas, Lousw is a male. I am almost positive. Not sure on Terry. LOL


I was going to ask Klaas to delete the part I wrote and now you have assured  me, she should.  It was late night and my cats were prowling and I was getting too morbid.  

Klaas, will you delete (PLEASE), THE PART THAT I WROTE ON EASY'S STORY.  Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 27, 2006, 12:58:39 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "AZLady"
I've just had a thought that perhaps this is why so many people on that island can defend Joran and look you straight in the eye when doing it.  When violence and rape and degradation are seen over and over, and it becomes commonplace, then people become jaded and accept it as a part of their life.  It no longer carries the horror and disgust that these actions cause in normal people in normal societies.  Perhaps this is why these young girls defend Joran and why the older people in that society are not up in arms and trying to stop this behavior.  They've seen it, over and over again, and it's become, if not acceptable, at least not criminal to them.  It strikes me that their attitude is more like why the big deal over this when the Americans are outraged and demand answers.  Years of this behavior, maybe even generations of it, have jaded them.


I believe the word you are looking for is DE-SENSITIZED.  

AZ, I think you and I must have been seperated at birth.  Your thoughts mirror mine.


Part of a pre World War I behavior, still existent on this island.  Too much technology too fast, too much money too fast, risen to quickly to a popular vacation site, only to have its citizens inflict on tourists what they are doing in their own personal lives.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 12:59:51 PM
Tylergal - I deleted it  :wink:


Title: This is weirdddddd.........
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 27, 2006, 01:04:04 PM
Here is a comment post from arubanboycott site today....
SITE: http://arubanboycott.blogspot.com/

Comment of one poster...strange>>
The Executioner said...
I continue to wait patiently, for the justice system to do there job.

However,I've just about lost all hope, that I will not have to take matters into my own hands.

I truly hope my actions will bring some comfort to Natalee's family.

I don't consider myself a violent person.And knowing that I'll have to use a knife,or a blunt instrument makes me a little queasy.

Spending the rest of my life in prison, REALLY, scares me.But I have a long history of going threw
with thing's that scare me.

I don't see myself making a clean getaway,from Aruba, or Holland.Please let me be wrong.

The clock is ticking,and time is running out.I guess that's true for anything that has ever lived.The moment life begins,the clock start's ticking.

I believe it's not how long you live that really matters,but how well you live.

And so I will sacrafice myself for another,Who is so deserving.

Tue Jun 27, 02:05:11 AM EDT

~~~~~~~~~~
Weirdness........ :?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Anna on June 27, 2006, 01:04:38 PM
Quote from: "blah"
[actually, they did already know it was a lie.  But they went ahead and arrested the 2 security guards anyway.


Do we know this as fact, or is it part of a conspiracy theory?  I believe what you say here, but I admit it's purely speculation on my part...[/quote]


I dont believe in conspiracy theories[/quote]


If you will recall, Beth did not go to bed but went back to the HI and got the tapes and looked at them.  ALE had no choice but to look at them because she was saying that Natalee was never dropped off and the tape proved it.  Meanwhile Paulus is dropping Joran off at school and lying to the headmaster that the reason the tape does not show Joran dropping Natalee off is that the tape was broken.

Why did Paulus think he could get to the tape and make it be broken?  Little did he know with whom he was dealing with Beth, HA!  Too late, Paulus!  Tapes already seen by Beth and others.

So why did they go ahead and arrest the security guards when they, ALE and Cowgirl KJ, already knew that the HI story was a big, fat lie???  Anything to cast attention away from the Sloots??  Trying to frame the guards even if innocent??  That arrest was very telling and one of the first indications that things were going very off-track in this investigation.  Red flag if ever there was one!  JMO.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Appeals on June 27, 2006, 01:05:38 PM
Good morning to all --

 Anna, Frijole, Jacqueline, klaasend, Peaches, thirdstrike, and Tylergal and those that are only lurking this morning.

Just got through reading Greta's blog and I am steamed!  There are at least three emails, long ones, slamming Bo Dietl, and only one very short one that (I think) defends the family.

Can we change GretaRocks screen name? LOL

Have been doing some spot reading back.  When Klaas posted the picture that I think Widget asked for of the guy in 2002 signing in at the casino, one thing I noticed was that he had no watch on his left arm.  It struck me, that people who do wear watches usualy start when they are teens and it is a habit they never change, just like putting on their socks and shoes  in a certain order.  I would lean towards that is not Paulus.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 01:05:49 PM
Nut44x4  :shock:  That is scary!  I've seen some of this persons posts before.  Always scary.  :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: JuJu on June 27, 2006, 01:06:46 PM
Can someone direct me to the discussion about JVDS telling his mother about Nat's clothing etc.



Quote from: "AZLady"
Of course, they knew enough to leave out the drugging and raping part of the story to the Americans.  But they did admit parts of it to their own people.  For example, Joran told his mother about Natalee's underwear and what he did to her.  This shows acceptance in their own society, but an awareness that he needed to be quiet about these things around the Americans because they didn't accept this behavior.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Windsor on June 27, 2006, 01:08:47 PM
Quote from: "Appeals"
Can we change GretaRocks screen name? LOL


LOL -- I'm here lurking -- and YES, YES, can I change my screen name??

actually, I know Tom and Red are so busy, I don't have much hope for that; plus I've changed my e-mail address; and they wouldn't like that, either ..

 :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Anna on June 27, 2006, 01:09:08 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Nut44x4  :shock:  That is scary!  I've seen some of this persons posts before.  Always scary.  :shock:



Or trying to get that blog taken down for some sort of violation of the Terms of Service Agreement.   :roll:

Just gives those wanting that ammunition to try to do so.  Not a good thing to do to any blog owner.  I hope Michelle sees it and removes it as I am sure certain people will be complaining like anything and trying to have her blog destroyed.

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Appeals on June 27, 2006, 01:09:34 PM
PEACHES, I have been trying to keep up with how you are doing with your health pursuit and I just wanted to say how glad I am for the good news you post from time to time.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 27, 2006, 01:10:34 PM
Quote from: "kuoka"
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
Quote from: "MominTN"
I guess nothing really happened on Greta and that's why you are talking about raccoons.


Nothing going on - waiting for some action from NY Judge.


Just give some people a chance to catch up. Sheesh. Greta aired the uncut video of Joran Vader SLOP being served papers when he came out of customs in NY. It also showed how Dieter was pushed by the ABC producer and how he defended himself.


Gee Kuoka you can have all the time you need to catch up. Sheesh back at ya!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 01:10:39 PM
Quote from: "GretaRocks"
Quote from: "Appeals"
Can we change GretaRocks screen name? LOL


LOL -- I'm here lurking -- and YES, YES, can I change my screen name??

actually, I know Tom and Red are so busy, I don't have much hope for that; plus I've changed my e-mail address; and they wouldn't like that, either ..

 :lol:


What do you want to change it to?  Be careful changing your email address, it will probably lock you out of the cage.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Appeals on June 27, 2006, 01:11:57 PM
ANNA, have been wanting to "catch" you on the board.  Every time I see your signature, I mean to tell you...I have an autographed copy of Judge Judy's book on my bookshelf.  One of the few I actually paid to have moved a few years ago.  Won it in a writing contest.  (consolation prize LOL)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Anna on June 27, 2006, 01:12:05 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
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What do you want to change it to?


GretaSucks??  LOL, Just kidding!   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 27, 2006, 01:12:18 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Nut44x4  :shock:  That is scary!  I've seen some of this persons posts before.  Always scary.  :shock:


No kidding.......weird. Probably just some freak with no knowledge or real connections. Freaks are everywhere, lol. Sad though.....it really is sad that some people are this way.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Anna on June 27, 2006, 01:14:06 PM
Quote from: "Appeals"
ANNA, have been wanting to "catch" you on the board.  Every time I see your signature, I mean to tell you...I have an autographed copy of Judge Judy's book on my bookshelf.  One of the few I actually paid to have moved a few years ago.  Won it in a writing contest.  (consolation prize LOL)


Well, that was a nice prize!  I have read other books by her but have just ordered this one and am looking forward to reading it.  Ordered it on this site below, of course.   :wink: I like her honesty.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Appeals on June 27, 2006, 01:14:08 PM
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Nut44x4  :shock:  That is scary!  I've seen some of this persons posts before.  Always scary.  :shock:


No kidding.......weird. Probably just some freak with no knowledge or real connections. Freaks are everywhere, lol. Sad though.....it really is sad that some people are this way.


Either a weird way to vent or hidden agenda and not against the perp. JMO


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Appeals on June 27, 2006, 01:15:53 PM
Have been having a lot of trouble staying logged on to the board.  Trying to get a little time in while multitasking.  List just went to two pages of things I would like to accomplish today, so if I don't respond to someone, it's not personal.   :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 27, 2006, 01:23:14 PM
Making Seasoned Sauteed Shrimp and Fettucine Alfredo with a little fresh spinach and red bell pepper added, Garlic Bread and Salad for our Marine this evening- it's his fave!

They don't serve it in the mess tent in Iraq!

 :cry:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: kuoka on June 27, 2006, 01:25:54 PM
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
Quote from: "kuoka"
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
Quote from: "MominTN"
I guess nothing really happened on Greta and that's why you are talking about raccoons.


Nothing going on - waiting for some action from NY Judge.


Just give some people a chance to catch up. Sheesh. Greta aired the uncut video of Joran Vader SLOP being served papers when he came out of customs in NY. It also showed how Dieter was pushed by the ABC producer and how he defended himself.


Gee Kuoka you can have all the time you need to catch up. Sheesh back at ya!


LOL Sorry FM, I quoted the wrong person. I intended to quote MOMinTN.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Windsor on June 27, 2006, 01:29:20 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "GretaRocks"
Quote from: "Appeals"
Can we change GretaRocks screen name? LOL


LOL -- I'm here lurking -- and YES, YES, can I change my screen name??

actually, I know Tom and Red are so busy, I don't have much hope for that; plus I've changed my e-mail address; and they wouldn't like that, either ..

 :lol:


What do you want to change it to?  Be careful changing your email address, it will probably lock you out of the cage.


I would like to be "Windsor"; I still have my listed e-mail address through mid-July, but after that, it's canceled (I was able to get away from AOL!!) did you guys hear the recording of the guy trying to cancel his account?  too funny; my experience wasn't to bad; she just kept lowering the price and then offered me something free

Klaas, let me know if this can be accomplished; again, I still have my listed e-mail until July 10, I think


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 27, 2006, 01:29:35 PM
Kuoka - sokay!

Mermaid originally from Brooklyn - Mr. Mermaid says "Don't make her go Brooklyn on ya!"


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Windsor on June 27, 2006, 01:31:32 PM
bye, everyone; gotta run


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Appeals on June 27, 2006, 01:33:45 PM
Me too for now...off to let Calgon take me away then bathe and walk the dog.  Too nice a day to stay inside all morning.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 27, 2006, 01:35:42 PM
Quote from: "Appeals"
Me too for now...off to let Calgon take me away then bathe and walk the dog.  Too nice a day to stay inside all morning.


Not 90+ degree day with 99% humidity where you are??????????


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on June 27, 2006, 02:02:54 PM
Wow - this new monitor is soooo cool. :D

I can split the screen and look at two things at one time. :D  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 02:03:58 PM
Oh, man.  Tyler, I went to fix a bite to eat and had to iron some shirts for some guy, and I come back and you are deleting some of the best writing I've read in a long time.  Wahhh...you need to put it back.  Please.  Pretty please.  I thought it was very provocative.  Collaborative stories are rough drafts, and it might not make the edits, but please don't delete it.


Title: Re: This is weirdddddd.........
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 27, 2006, 02:05:42 PM
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
Here is a comment post from arubanboycott site today....
SITE: http://arubanboycott.blogspot.com/

Comment of one poster...strange>>
The Executioner said...
I continue to wait patiently, for the justice system to do there job.

However,I've just about lost all hope, that I will not have to take matters into my own hands.

I truly hope my actions will bring some comfort to Natalee's family.

I don't consider myself a violent person.And knowing that I'll have to use a knife,or a blunt instrument makes me a little queasy.

Spending the rest of my life in prison, REALLY, scares me.But I have a long history of going threw
with thing's that scare me.

I don't see myself making a clean getaway,from Aruba, or Holland.Please let me be wrong.

The clock is ticking,and time is running out.I guess that's true for anything that has ever lived.The moment life begins,the clock start's ticking.

I believe it's not how long you live that really matters,but how well you live.

And so I will sacrafice myself for another,Who is so deserving.

Tue Jun 27, 02:05:11 AM EDT

~~~~~~~~~~
Weirdness........ :?


 :shock:  :shock:

I hesitate to say it, but this person needs to be reported to some law enforcement agency.   :(


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on June 27, 2006, 02:06:07 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Oh, man.  Tyler, I went to fix a bite to eat and had to iron some shirts for some guy, and I come back and you are deleting some of the best writing I've read in a long time.  Wahhh...you need to put it back.  Please.  Pretty please.  I thought it was very provocative.  Collaborative stories are rough drafts, and it might not make the edits, but please don't delete it.


AZ

Some shirts for some guy? Do you just offer to iron shirts for random strangers? If so, please come to my house!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 02:08:19 PM
http://www.gotoquiz.com/how_new_jersey_are_you

This is short, harmless and fun....

Even if you are not from Jersey take it.....

I scored 75%

Just to take a little break from your work day..... :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Mere on June 27, 2006, 02:08:59 PM
Sun....ditto on the need to report....though do not know if these blogs are already monitored....Mere


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 27, 2006, 02:09:07 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Oh, man.  Tyler, I went to fix a bite to eat and had to iron some shirts for some guy, and I come back and you are deleting some of the best writing I've read in a long time.  Wahhh...you need to put it back.  Please.  Pretty please.  I thought it was very provocative.  Collaborative stories are rough drafts, and it might not make the edits, but please don't delete it.


AZ

Some shirts for some guy? Do you just offer to iron shirts for random strangers? If so, please come to my house!


and mine!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 02:09:10 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Oh, man.  Tyler, I went to fix a bite to eat and had to iron some shirts for some guy, and I come back and you are deleting some of the best writing I've read in a long time.  Wahhh...you need to put it back.  Please.  Pretty please.  I thought it was very provocative.  Collaborative stories are rough drafts, and it might not make the edits, but please don't delete it.


AZ

Some shirts for some guy? Do you just offer to iron shirts for random strangers? If so, please come to my house!


Ha ha ha.  Actually, I offer to do all sorts of things for random strangers...one of my more endearing qualities!   :wink:   This was my daughter's boyfriend who has a job interview and needed shirts ironed.  Daughter just can't master the knack of the iron--go figure.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 02:12:36 PM
and Mermaid, I'll gladly iron for you if you will cook for me!   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Mere on June 27, 2006, 02:14:49 PM
Jacqui....70%...!!!  Born in Louisiana....DIL from NJ...rubs off...!!!   :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 02:15:54 PM
Quote from: "MeMere"
Jacqui....70%...!!!  Born in Louisiana....DIL from NJ...rubs off...!!!   :D



Hey baby! :lol:   You are Jersey Simpatico.....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 27, 2006, 02:16:08 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
http://www.gotoquiz.com/how_new_jersey_are_you

This is short, harmless and fun....

Even if you are not from Jersey take it.....

I scored 75%

Just to take a little break from your work day..... :wink:


I got a 93% and I'm from NY


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 02:16:38 PM
Well, I had the screen still open and saved Tylergal's story before it could be banished to the underworld!  Yay!  I've saved another bit of literary genius for the world (well, almost).  Tylergal, let me know if you'd like to repost it and I'll email it to you.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 27, 2006, 02:16:53 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
and Mermaid, I'll gladly iron for you if you will cook for me!   :lol:


Deal!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 02:17:27 PM
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
http://www.gotoquiz.com/how_new_jersey_are_you

This is short, harmless and fun....

Even if you are not from Jersey take it.....

I scored 75%

Just to take a little break from your work day..... :wink:


I got a 93% and I'm from NY


Sistah! :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Appeals on June 27, 2006, 02:17:46 PM
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
Quote from: "Appeals"
Me too for now...off to let Calgon take me away then bathe and walk the dog.  Too nice a day to stay inside all morning.


Not 90+ degree day with 99% humidity where you are??????????


Yuk!  Thank the weather gods, no.  High 60'2 or mid 70's max here at the coast, light breeze off the water, humidity I would guess around 65%.  Sunshine, puffy clouds.  As Widget would say, track fast.  Actually have to get out and water a few new plants I put in just before last weekend.

BTW, your menu sounds heavenly.  Give your Marine my thanks and hugs too.  (Was married to one for years, made many a trip to Camp Pendleton in So. Cal. when we were dating.)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Mere on June 27, 2006, 02:18:05 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "MeMere"
Jacqui....70%...!!!  Born in Louisiana....DIL from NJ...rubs off...!!!   :D



Hey baby! :lol:   You are Jersey Simpatico.....


Since I told the truth....I would say y'all rather than you guys....but would you smile at pop rather than soda...?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 02:19:37 PM
Quote from: "MeMere"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "MeMere"
Jacqui....70%...!!!  Born in Louisiana....DIL from NJ...rubs off...!!!   :D



Hey baby! :lol:   You are Jersey Simpatico.....


Since I told the truth....I would say y'all rather than you guys....but would you smile at pop rather than soda...?


tee hee.
I was in texas and ordered a sprite.  The waitress looked at me and said...Oh ya mean a white pop?
I nearly fell on the floor......it tickled me! LOL :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 02:21:52 PM
I am 6% New Jersey.  I am definitely not from New Jersey. In fact, I am very far from it.  Then, they suggest I stop by sometime and see what I am missing!   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Mere on June 27, 2006, 02:23:32 PM
white pop....too funny.... :D   we ask for a cold drink in New Orleans....then say what kind.....sweet tea (not my fav), diet coke.... :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 02:23:33 PM
We always called a cold drink a pop in Ohio.  When I moved to AZ, I learned quickly that it's a "soft drink."


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 02:23:54 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
I am 6% New Jersey.  I am definitely not from New Jersey. In fact, I am very far from it.  Then, they suggest I stop by sometime and see what I am missing!   :lol:


Please do, and we'll go down the shore..........

Get a soda....Play minature golf..........You get the idea! :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 27, 2006, 02:25:30 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Well, I had the screen still open and saved Tylergal's story before it could be banished to the underworld!  Yay!  I've saved another bit of literary genius for the world (well, almost).  Tylergal, let me know if you'd like to repost it and I'll email it to you.


I liked it too Tylergal.  There are lots of places the story could go from there.  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 02:26:04 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "AZLady"
I am 6% New Jersey.  I am definitely not from New Jersey. In fact, I am very far from it.  Then, they suggest I stop by sometime and see what I am missing!   :lol:


Please do, and we'll go down the shore..........

Get a soda....Play minature golf..........You get the idea! :wink:


Sounds lovely.  Some things transcend language, don't they?   :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 02:27:42 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Well, I had the screen still open and saved Tylergal's story before it could be banished to the underworld!  Yay!  I've saved another bit of literary genius for the world (well, almost).  Tylergal, let me know if you'd like to repost it and I'll email it to you.


I liked it too Tylergal.  There are lots of places the story could go from there.  :D


Thanks, Sun, for chiming in on this.  Tyler is just too sensitive sometimes.  Her writing is very, very good and she should share it with us, her friends.  Please, Tyler?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Mere on June 27, 2006, 02:27:50 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
We always called a cold drink a pop in Ohio.  When I moved to AZ, I learned quickly that it's a "soft drink."


In this part of Kentucky, the most difficult phrase for me is...."I don't care a bit to do that..."   translated....I'd be happy to do that....! :D    I love the people in this area.....country, family, religious, very down to earth...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Kimmy53 on June 27, 2006, 02:29:47 PM
Well yous' guys - I scored a paultry 34% - but then again - what would I expect - I am a so. gal - never really been much of anywhere.  I am proud of my 34% though! :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 27, 2006, 02:30:29 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Well, I had the screen still open and saved Tylergal's story before it could be banished to the underworld!  Yay!  I've saved another bit of literary genius for the world (well, almost).  Tylergal, let me know if you'd like to repost it and I'll email it to you.


I liked it too Tylergal.  There are lots of places the story could go from there.  :D


Thanks, Sun, for chiming in on this.  Tyler is just too sensitive sometimes.  Her writing is very, very good and she should share it with us, her friends.  Please, Tyler?


Klaas posted one for me that I have submitted to a magazine and since I have not heard back, thought I would ask her to post it here.  It is more garden humor than serious and mysterious.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Mere on June 27, 2006, 02:32:08 PM
Tylergal....I wondered if you were walking near MonkeyHill when you strolled through Audubon Park.... :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 02:36:37 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "AZLady"
I am 6% New Jersey.  I am definitely not from New Jersey. In fact, I am very far from it.  Then, they suggest I stop by sometime and see what I am missing!   :lol:


Please do, and we'll go down the shore..........

Get a soda....Play minature golf..........You get the idea! :wink:


Sounds lovely.  Some things transcend language, don't they?   :D


Without a doubt. :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 02:38:04 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Well, I had the screen still open and saved Tylergal's story before it could be banished to the underworld!  Yay!  I've saved another bit of literary genius for the world (well, almost).  Tylergal, let me know if you'd like to repost it and I'll email it to you.


I liked it too Tylergal.  There are lots of places the story could go from there.  :D


Thanks, Sun, for chiming in on this.  Tyler is just too sensitive sometimes.  Her writing is very, very good and she should share it with us, her friends.  Please, Tyler?


I liked it as well and saved it prior to deleting it.  You need to see her new thread though...take a look  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on June 27, 2006, 02:39:49 PM
I'm 0% New Jersey. :oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:

A true southern girl I guess.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 02:42:23 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
I'm 0% New Jersey. :oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:

A true southern girl I guess.


No way.

What did your message say?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: WidgetTheMidget on June 27, 2006, 02:51:21 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
We always called a cold drink a pop in Ohio.  When I moved to AZ, I learned quickly that it's a "soft drink."


In Lexington Massachusetts They Call It .........

TONIC ..............

 8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 02:53:34 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
I'm 0% New Jersey. :oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:

A true southern girl I guess.


No way.

What did your message say?



 JACKIE~!!  I am 76%  NJ!!!  I had to laugh about the TRAM CAR!!
OMG.. that drove me NUTS on the boardwalk...
Watch the tram car please.. please watch the tram car.
Eeeeeekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk   LMAO


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 27, 2006, 02:54:43 PM
Quote from: "MeMere"
Tylergal....I wondered if you were walking near MonkeyHill when you strolled through Audubon Park.... :D


LOL.  Oh, of course, but where was the HILL?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 02:55:29 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
I'm 0% New Jersey. :oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:

A true southern girl I guess.


No way.

What did your message say?



 JACKIE~!!  I am 76%  NJ!!!  I had to laugh about the TRAM CAR!!
OMG.. that drove me NUTS on the boardwalk...
Watch the tram car please.. please watch the tram car.
Eeeeeekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk   LMAO


LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 02:55:36 PM
OOPS.. Hi everyone!

AND I admit.. I say POP..  Its a PA thingy I think!

Ohhhhhhhh.. and since I am the resident SM drunk hick ass bitch..
I got no problem ordering adult beverages in ANY state!!  :)

Ahem.. anyone care fo a drink..? Is beer thirty somewhere!  :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 02:56:27 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
OOPS.. Hi everyone!

AND I admit.. I say POP..  Its a PA thingy I think!

Ohhhhhhhh.. and since I am the resident SM drunk hick ass bitch..
I got no problem ordering adult beverages in ANY state!!  :)

Ahem.. anyone care fo a drink..? Is beer thirty somewhere!  :)


I would love a cocktail right about now! 8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 02:57:30 PM
Angie  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 02:58:03 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
OOPS.. Hi everyone!

AND I admit.. I say POP..  Its a PA thingy I think!

Ohhhhhhhh.. and since I am the resident SM drunk hick ass bitch..
I got no problem ordering adult beverages in ANY state!!  :)

Ahem.. anyone care fo a drink..? Is beer thirty somewhere!  :)


I would love a cocktail right about now! 8)


(http://bestsmileys.com/drinking/9.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 02:58:51 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Angie  :lol:  :lol:



:) :)  I assume you read it too? LMAO
I about peed in my pants!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Whodunit? on June 27, 2006, 02:59:15 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
OOPS.. Hi everyone!

AND I admit.. I say POP..  Its a PA thingy I think!

Ohhhhhhhh.. and since I am the resident SM drunk hick ass bitch..
I got no problem ordering adult beverages in ANY state!!  :)

Ahem.. anyone care fo a drink..? Is beer thirty somewhere!  :)


Pop is midwestern as well..........hubby is from Indy and everyone there says it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 03:00:56 PM
Quote from: "Whodunit?"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
OOPS.. Hi everyone!

AND I admit.. I say POP..  Its a PA thingy I think!

Ohhhhhhhh.. and since I am the resident SM drunk hick ass bitch..
I got no problem ordering adult beverages in ANY state!!  :)

Ahem.. anyone care fo a drink..? Is beer thirty somewhere!  :)


Pop is midwestern as well..........hubby is from Indy and everyone there says it.


 There are a few folks in PA I have heard say Soda.. !!  ":)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 03:02:24 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Angie  :lol:  :lol:



:) :)  I assume you read it too? LMAO
I about peed in my pants!!


Yep, I read it.  They are very confused, IMO  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on June 27, 2006, 03:03:45 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
I'm 0% New Jersey. :oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:

A true southern girl I guess.


No way.

What did your message say?


Something about needing to visit there?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: igsigs on June 27, 2006, 03:04:26 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"

AND I admit.. I say POP..  Its a PA thingy I think!

Hi Ang.  POP is western PA.

And drunk ass hick is countrywide! :P According to them anyway...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 03:06:34 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Angie  :lol:  :lol:



:) :)  I assume you read it too? LMAO
I about peed in my pants!!


Yep, I read it.  They are very confused, IMO  :lol:


LMAO  wasnt it more like Connnnnnnnfused?  
Heck I like a beer here and there! I am 40 yrs old for God sakes!
Drink at home.. not out driving!!
I guess I am DRUNK cause I typo..LMAO
(I do miss that edit button)~!!  HA HA


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 03:07:35 PM
Quote from: "igsigs"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"

AND I admit.. I say POP..  Its a PA thingy I think!

Hi Ang.  POP is western PA.

And drunk ass hick is countrywide! :P According to them anyway...



  LMAO.. funny thing is.. I am not even a HICK~!!  ROFLMAO


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on June 27, 2006, 03:08:15 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Angie  :lol:  :lol:



:) :)  I assume you read it too? LMAO
I about peed in my pants!!


Yep, I read it.  They are very confused, IMO  :lol:


LMAO  wasnt it more like Connnnnnnnfused?  
Heck I like a beer here and there! I am 40 yrs old for God sakes!
Drink at home.. not out driving!!
I guess I am DRUNK cause I typo..LMAO
(I do miss that edit button)~!!  HA HA


I raised a durned drunk?! :shock:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 03:09:35 PM
[quote="BTgirl I raised a durned drunk?! :shock:  :lol:[/quote]



LOL  :)  Sorry mom..  :sniff sniff:.. those wolves really knew how to party!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on June 27, 2006, 03:10:51 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
[quote="BTgirl I raised a durned drunk?! :shock:  :lol:




LOL  :)  Sorry mom..  :sniff sniff:.. those wolves really knew how to party![/quote]

Hee Hee Hee :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 03:13:27 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
[quote="BTgirl I raised a durned drunk?! :shock:  :lol:




LOL  :)  Sorry mom..  :sniff sniff:.. those wolves really knew how to party!


Hee Hee Hee :lol:  :lol:  :lol:[/quote]


  How is your weather MOM?  Its been AWFUL here.. sick of RAIN..
Wonder if Mrs Red has that ARK about ready!
  Ohhh.. and mom. if you hacnt ever visited NJ.. go sometime!
Its beautiful..  WILDWOOD and the boardwalk is awesome!!
 Just watch out for the tram car... and seagulls poopin on yah and taking food right off your plate too!  :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 03:15:23 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
[quote="BTgirl I raised a durned drunk?! :shock:  :lol:




LOL  :)  Sorry mom..  :sniff sniff:.. those wolves really knew how to party!


Hee Hee Hee :lol:  :lol:  :lol:



  How is your weather MOM?  Its been AWFUL here.. sick of RAIN..
Wonder if Mrs Red has that ARK about ready!
  Ohhh.. and mom. if you hacnt ever visited NJ.. go sometime!
Its beautiful..  WILDWOOD and the boardwalk is awesome!!
 Just watch out for the tram car... and seagulls poopin on yah and taking food right off your plate too!  :)[/quote]

A few years ago i was on the beach and got hit with a piece of pizza.
Thought the pizza fairy was shining on me....

It was a bird who had enough and dropped in promptly on my head. :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Houdini on June 27, 2006, 03:16:36 PM
Angie wrote:
Quote
Drink at home.. not out driving!!
I guess I am DRUNK cause I typo..LMAO
(I do miss that edit button)~!! HA HA



Well, I KNOW I'm not an Alcoholic...........I don't go to meetings! :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: San on June 27, 2006, 03:16:47 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
OOPS.. Hi everyone!

AND I admit.. I say POP..  Its a PA thingy I think!

Ohhhhhhhh.. and since I am the resident SM drunk hick ass bitch..
I got no problem ordering adult beverages in ANY state!!  :)

Ahem.. anyone care fo a drink..? Is beer thirty somewhere!  :)


I would love a cocktail right about now! 8)


(http://bestsmileys.com/drinking/9.gif)


Want some pizza with that cocktail I have more than a half of pie left.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 27, 2006, 03:17:21 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "MeMere"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "MeMere"
Jacqui....70%...!!!  Born in Louisiana....DIL from NJ...rubs off...!!!   :D



Hey baby! :lol:   You are Jersey Simpatico.....


Since I told the truth....I would say y'all rather than you guys....but would you smile at pop rather than soda...?


tee hee.
I was in texas and ordered a sprite.  The waitress looked at me and said...Oh ya mean a white pop?
I nearly fell on the floor......it tickled me! LOL :lol:


Never heard of that and lived in Texas.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on June 27, 2006, 03:17:55 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
 How is your weather MOM?  Its been AWFUL here.. sick of RAIN..
Wonder if Mrs Red has that ARK about ready!
  Ohhh.. and mom. if you hacnt ever visited NJ.. go sometime!
Its beautiful..  WILDWOOD and the boardwalk is awesome!!
 Just watch out for the tram car... and seagulls poopin on yah and taking food right off your plate too!  :)


It's sunny and in the 80s here and we've been begging for rain.

I wish I could visit New Jersey, but I'm doomed to go to England and visit old people instead. No vacation this summer - England in October. Just in time for the rainy season. :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 03:18:26 PM
Hey, Angie.  Come to AZ--it never rains here.  I've seen where you've had rain and rain and more rain lately.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 27, 2006, 03:18:45 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
We always called a cold drink a pop in Ohio.  When I moved to AZ, I learned quickly that it's a "soft drink."


I have heard of cold drink.  My gardener says that all the time when he wants "anything to drink."  Where did I get calling it "soft drink?"  Beats me.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 03:19:10 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "MeMere"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "MeMere"
Jacqui....70%...!!!  Born in Louisiana....DIL from NJ...rubs off...!!!   :D



Hey baby! :lol:   You are Jersey Simpatico.....


Since I told the truth....I would say y'all rather than you guys....but would you smile at pop rather than soda...?


tee hee.
I was in texas and ordered a sprite.  The waitress looked at me and said...Oh ya mean a white pop?
I nearly fell on the floor......it tickled me! LOL :lol:


I was in Fort Worth.  
Havin some BBQ.

Who knows where the waitress was from....but she said White Pop and I went down for the count.... :lol:

Never heard of that and lived in Texas.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 03:19:17 PM
My son just informed me.. that his friends that were in the accident are doing fine.  Brandon has a concussion .. some cuts.. etc.
Melissa DOES NOT have a broken neck like they thought.. its BAD BAD BAD whiplash. She has to have plastic surgery on her broken nose.. :(
and she has a concussion.   Im glad they are going to be fine and I am VERY happy to hear the poor gal don't have a broken neck. WHEW!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 03:19:38 PM
Quote from: "Houdini"
Angie wrote:
Quote
Drink at home.. not out driving!!
I guess I am DRUNK cause I typo..LMAO
(I do miss that edit button)~!! HA HA



Well, I KNOW I'm not an Alcoholic...........I don't go to meetings! :shock:


Houdini, I like that logic.  I need to remember that one!   :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: San on June 27, 2006, 03:20:31 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
My son just informed me.. that his friends that were in the accident are doing fine.  Brandon has a concussion .. some cuts.. etc.
Melissa DOES NOT have a broken neck like they thought.. its BAD BAD BAD whiplash. She has to have plastic surgery on her broken nose.. :(
and she has a concussion.   Im glad they are going to be fine and I am VERY happy to hear the poor gal don't have a broken neck. WHEW!

I'm glad to hear they are doing fine Angie.  Thanks for the update.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 03:20:52 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
My son just informed me.. that his friends that were in the accident are doing fine.  Brandon has a concussion .. some cuts.. etc.
Melissa DOES NOT have a broken neck like they thought.. its BAD BAD BAD whiplash. She has to have plastic surgery on her broken nose.. :(
and she has a concussion.   Im glad they are going to be fine and I am VERY happy to hear the poor gal don't have a broken neck. WHEW!


Good news, happy to hear it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 03:21:09 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
[quote="BTgirl I raised a durned drunk?! :shock:  :lol:




LOL  :)  Sorry mom..  :sniff sniff:.. those wolves really knew how to party!


Hee Hee Hee :lol:  :lol:  :lol:



  How is your weather MOM?  Its been AWFUL here.. sick of RAIN..
Wonder if Mrs Red has that ARK about ready!
  Ohhh.. and mom. if you hacnt ever visited NJ.. go sometime!
Its beautiful..  WILDWOOD and the boardwalk is awesome!!
 Just watch out for the tram car... and seagulls poopin on yah and taking food right off your plate too!  :)


A few years ago i was on the beach and got hit with a piece of pizza.
Thought the pizza fairy was shining on me....

It was a bird who had enough and dropped in promptly on my head. :roll:[/quote]


 I know what you mean sistah!!!!  Those darned seagulls!!  LOL :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 03:21:45 PM
I'm hungry.  I've snacked on bugles and spinach dip and can't figure out what I want for lunch.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 03:22:54 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Hey, Angie.  Come to AZ--it never rains here.  I've seen where you've had rain and rain and more rain lately.


  Yep AZ.. it just keeps on raining like crazy..
I havnt had to water my garden now in days!  Its growing nicely.. but the rain I am getting very very sick of~!  :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 27, 2006, 03:23:56 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
[quote="BTgirl I raised a durned drunk?! :shock:  :lol:




LOL  :)  Sorry mom..  :sniff sniff:.. those wolves really knew how to party!


Hee Hee Hee :lol:  :lol:  :lol:



  How is your weather MOM?  Its been AWFUL here.. sick of RAIN..
Wonder if Mrs Red has that ARK about ready!
  Ohhh.. and mom. if you hacnt ever visited NJ.. go sometime!
Its beautiful..  WILDWOOD and the boardwalk is awesome!!
 Just watch out for the tram car... and seagulls poopin on yah and taking food right off your plate too!  :)


A few years ago i was on the beach and got hit with a piece of pizza.
Thought the pizza fairy was shining on me....

It was a bird who had enough and dropped in promptly on my head. :roll:[/quote]

TOO FUNNY!!! Concussion by Pizza!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 03:24:19 PM
Quote from: "Houdini"
Angie wrote:
Quote
Drink at home.. not out driving!!
I guess I am DRUNK cause I typo..LMAO
(I do miss that edit button)~!! HA HA



Well, I KNOW I'm not an Alcoholic...........I don't go to meetings! :shock:


  LOL Houdini!!  ME either.. I DO feel bad for the ones that truly do have a problem with it. and drugs. :(


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on June 27, 2006, 03:24:56 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Houdini"
Angie wrote:
Quote
Drink at home.. not out driving!!
I guess I am DRUNK cause I typo..LMAO
(I do miss that edit button)~!! HA HA



Well, I KNOW I'm not an Alcoholic...........I don't go to meetings! :shock:


  LOL Houdini!!  ME either.. I DO feel bad for the ones that truly do have a problem with it. and drugs. :(


Hey! Stop talking about me. You've stopped preachin' and gone to meddlin' :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 03:25:34 PM
Quote from: "San"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
My son just informed me.. that his friends that were in the accident are doing fine.  Brandon has a concussion .. some cuts.. etc.
Melissa DOES NOT have a broken neck like they thought.. its BAD BAD BAD whiplash. She has to have plastic surgery on her broken nose.. :(
and she has a concussion.   Im glad they are going to be fine and I am VERY happy to hear the poor gal don't have a broken neck. WHEW!

I'm glad to hear they are doing fine Angie.  Thanks for the update.



  TY San and Jackie... I am happy too.. I am so glad the poor girl dont have a broken neck and have to wear that yucky halo brace.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: San on June 27, 2006, 03:25:55 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
I'm hungry.  I've snacked on bugles and spinach dip and can't figure out what I want for lunch.

Order a steak, mushroom & peppers parmigiana hero.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 03:26:56 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
I'm hungry.  I've snacked on bugles and spinach dip and can't figure out what I want for lunch.


  AZ.. you stinker!! I lobe bugles and spinach dip is my favorite!
I like dipping pumpernickel  bread in it or Keebler Club crackers..
 YUM YUM


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 03:27:35 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Houdini"
Angie wrote:
Quote
Drink at home.. not out driving!!
I guess I am DRUNK cause I typo..LMAO
(I do miss that edit button)~!! HA HA



Well, I KNOW I'm not an Alcoholic...........I don't go to meetings! :shock:


  LOL Houdini!!  ME either.. I DO feel bad for the ones that truly do have a problem with it. and drugs. :(


Hey! Stop talking about me. You've stopped preachin' and gone to meddlin' :lol:


  YIKES!  :)  We love yah mom!!!  :) :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 03:28:23 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "AZLady"
I'm hungry.  I've snacked on bugles and spinach dip and can't figure out what I want for lunch.


  AZ.. you stinker!! I lobe bugles and spinach dip is my favorite!
I like dipping pumpernickel  bread in it or Keebler Club crackers..
 YUM YUM


  OOPS  LOVE.. I LOVE Bugles...    (dont want anyone to think I am nipping the bottle .. :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 27, 2006, 03:28:27 PM
Angie, good news to hear.  Thanks for keeping us posted.

Jacqui, the funniest restaurant story I have is one from the last time we were in Atlanta and stopped on the outside of town so as to circumvent all the traffic.  My husband asked for tea.  We assume all tea is unsweetened except in certain mom-n-pop restaurants.  Waitress brought it and it was sweet from sugar.  He apologized and told her he should have asked for unsweet tea.  She looked at me and said, "Don't you want sweet tea?"  I replied, "No, I want a cup of coffee and a glass of water."  She said, "Well, what's wrong, y'all diabetic or sumthin'?"


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 27, 2006, 03:28:55 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "AZLady"
We always called a cold drink a pop in Ohio.  When I moved to AZ, I learned quickly that it's a "soft drink."


I have heard of cold drink.  My gardener says that all the time when he wants "anything to drink."  Where did I get calling it "soft drink?"  Beats me.


Humm, I'm a Kansan, all I've ever used is 'coke' when requesting a soft drink, even when Pepsi is listed as the only beverage.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: da_wench on June 27, 2006, 03:29:30 PM
Good afternoon, sugar monkeys!

I read the front page every day but don't always have time to come to the cage.  I sure hope everyone is doing well and staying cool.  It is hot as hades here.

Still no word on the civil suit?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 27, 2006, 03:30:50 PM
San, how are you doing?  That hero sounds good.  I wish I had not eaten so much canteloupe yesterday.  I have the green-apple two-step today.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 03:31:34 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Angie, good news to hear.  Thanks for keeping us posted.

Jacqui, the funniest restaurant story I have is one from the last time we were in Atlanta and stopped on the outside of town so as to circumvent all the traffic.  My husband asked for tea.  We assume all tea is unsweetened except in certain mom-n-pop restaurants.  Waitress brought it and it was sweet from sugar.  He apologized and told her he should have asked for unsweet tea.  She looked at me and said, "Don't you want sweet tea?"  I replied, "No, I want a cup of coffee and a glass of water."  She said, "Well, what's wrong, y'all diabetic or sumthin'?"


OMG............That is a riot! :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 03:32:49 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Angie, good news to hear.  Thanks for keeping us posted.

Jacqui, the funniest restaurant story I have is one from the last time we were in Atlanta and stopped on the outside of town so as to circumvent all the traffic.  My husband asked for tea.  We assume all tea is unsweetened except in certain mom-n-pop restaurants.  Waitress brought it and it was sweet from sugar.  He apologized and told her he should have asked for unsweet tea.  She looked at me and said, "Don't you want sweet tea?"  I replied, "No, I want a cup of coffee and a glass of water."  She said, "Well, what's wrong, y'all diabetic or sumthin'?"


  Ty Tyler   and LMAO at your story!!  :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 27, 2006, 03:33:00 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
San, how are you doing?  That hero sounds good.  I wish I had not eaten so much canteloupe yesterday.  I have the green-apple two-step today.


Hummm, a Twinkie, Strawberry, Chocolate  Burrito.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 03:33:15 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "AZLady"
We always called a cold drink a pop in Ohio.  When I moved to AZ, I learned quickly that it's a "soft drink."


I have heard of cold drink.  My gardener says that all the time when he wants "anything to drink."  Where did I get calling it "soft drink?"  Beats me.


Humm, I'm a Kansan, all I've ever used is 'coke' when requesting a soft drink, even when Pepsi is listed as the only beverage.


But what if you want an uncola...like a 7 up. or sprite, or sierra mist?   :?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: San on June 27, 2006, 03:33:55 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
San, how are you doing?  That hero sounds good.  I wish I had not eaten so much canteloupe yesterday.  I have the green-apple two-step today.

Hi Tyler, I'm feeling fine just waiting for things to get back in full swing.  By the way the hero was good :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 03:34:10 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
San, how are you doing?  That hero sounds good.  I wish I had not eaten so much canteloupe yesterday.  I have the green-apple two-step today.
[/b]

Ok, now I KNOW i'm Jersey...

Never heard that before in my life!!!!!!!!!! :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 03:34:10 PM
Quote from: "da_wench"
Good afternoon, sugar monkeys!

I read the front page every day but don't always have time to come to the cage.  I sure hope everyone is doing well and staying cool.  It is hot as hades here.

Still no word on the civil suit?


  HI Wench!!!   Great to see you!!  CARNUT... Great to see you too!!
  Nope.. no word yet about the civil suit.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 03:34:22 PM
Well, I am now feeling like queen-for-a-day.  Daughter's boyfriend heard my lament about wanting lunch and is making me a sandwich!!  I love it when someone else makes my food.  I guess it's the least he could do for the shirts I ironed.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 27, 2006, 03:34:36 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "AZLady"
We always called a cold drink a pop in Ohio.  When I moved to AZ, I learned quickly that it's a "soft drink."


I have heard of cold drink.  My gardener says that all the time when he wants "anything to drink."  Where did I get calling it "soft drink?"  Beats me.


Humm, I'm a Kansan, all I've ever used is 'coke' when requesting a soft drink, even when Pepsi is listed as the only beverage.


But what if you want an uncola...like a 7 up. or sprite, or sierra mist?   :?


Ah, I wouldn't.

But this used to be only 7up country.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 03:36:14 PM
Ah, yes.  The old green apple, two-step... I get it from too many peaches, too.  Love those peaches.  Feel better soon, Tyler.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 03:36:24 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Well, I am now feeling like queen-for-a-day.  Daughter's boyfriend heard my lament about wanting lunch and is making me a sandwich!!  I love it when someone else makes my food.  I guess it's the least he could do for the shirts I ironed.



  Aweeeeeeee!!!  Thats nice of him  AZ!!!  :)
Everything always tastes better when someone else makes it, huh? lol


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 03:36:25 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "AZLady"
We always called a cold drink a pop in Ohio.  When I moved to AZ, I learned quickly that it's a "soft drink."


I have heard of cold drink.  My gardener says that all the time when he wants "anything to drink."  Where did I get calling it "soft drink?"  Beats me.


Humm, I'm a Kansan, all I've ever used is 'coke' when requesting a soft drink, even when Pepsi is listed as the only beverage.


But what if you want an uncola...like a 7 up. or sprite, or sierra mist?   :?


Ah, I wouldn't.

But this used to be only 7up country.


But ya would never ask for a white pop....LOL  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 27, 2006, 03:36:55 PM
Youse guys are nuts!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 03:38:09 PM
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
Youse guys are nuts!



the two yoots....

What's a yoot???? :shock:  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 03:39:20 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
San, how are you doing?  That hero sounds good.  I wish I had not eaten so much canteloupe yesterday.  I have the green-apple two-step today.
[/b]

Ok, now I KNOW i'm Jersey...

Never heard that before in my life!!!!!!!!!! :lol:  :lol:


  Me either!!  :)
I can guess what it means though.


TYLER.. hope you feel better. Ummm.. maybe try some PEPTO or Immdoium ???


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 03:39:59 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
San, how are you doing?  That hero sounds good.  I wish I had not eaten so much canteloupe yesterday.  I have the green-apple two-step today.
[/b]

Ok, now I KNOW i'm Jersey...

Never heard that before in my life!!!!!!!!!! :lol:  :lol:


  Me either!!  :)
I can guess what it means though.


TYLER.. hope you feel better. Ummm.. maybe try some PEPTO or Immdoium ???


Or eat a grilled cheese.   :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 27, 2006, 03:41:07 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
San, how are you doing?  That hero sounds good.  I wish I had not eaten so much canteloupe yesterday.  I have the green-apple two-step today.
[/b]

Ok, now I KNOW i'm Jersey...

Never heard that before in my life!!!!!!!!!! :lol:  :lol:


  Me either!!  :)
I can guess what it means though.


TYLER.. hope you feel better. Ummm.. maybe try some PEPTO or Immdoium ???


Or eat a grilled cheese.   :roll:


Huh? Would a grilled cheese really help the 'condition'?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 03:41:10 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
San, how are you doing?  That hero sounds good.  I wish I had not eaten so much canteloupe yesterday.  I have the green-apple two-step today.
[/b]

Ok, now I KNOW i'm Jersey...

Never heard that before in my life!!!!!!!!!! :lol:  :lol:


  Me either!!  :)
I can guess what it means though.


TYLER.. hope you feel better. Ummm.. maybe try some PEPTO or Immdoium ???


Or eat a grilled cheese.   :roll:


 That would work.. or bananas or rice even. !!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 03:41:49 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
San, how are you doing?  That hero sounds good.  I wish I had not eaten so much canteloupe yesterday.  I have the green-apple two-step today.
[/b]

Ok, now I KNOW i'm Jersey...

Never heard that before in my life!!!!!!!!!! :lol:  :lol:


  Me either!!  :)
I can guess what it means though.


TYLER.. hope you feel better. Ummm.. maybe try some PEPTO or Immdoium ???


Or eat a grilled cheese.   :roll:


Huh? Would a grilled cheese really help the 'condition'?


  YEPPERS CARNUT....  Cheese.. Ummmm.. blocks yah..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 03:42:03 PM
Oh my--you should see this lunch the boyfriend made me!!  He's a graphic artist and it looks too pretty to eat!   :lol:  (But I will...)

Turkey folded in overlapping pieces on 7 grain bread, cut on the diagonal, of course.  Some sort of white cheese on it and chopped up lettuce on top of the cheese with mayo on the lettuce.  Then, on half of the plate rim, are strawberries cut in half, cut side down, with powdered sugar sprinkled on each one.  Let's see, there are 6 strawberry halves!  And in the middle of the plate is a little pile of bugles!  I didn't have the heart to tell him I've eaten so many bugles this morning I can't eat one more!  I should take a picture of this and show you all.  It's so nice!  I feel loved (or at least appreciated!)   :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 03:43:36 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Oh my--you should see this lunch the boyfriend made me!!  He's a graphic artist and it looks too pretty to eat!   :lol:  (But I will...)

Turkey folded in overlapping pieces on 7 grain bread, cut on the diagonal, of course.  Some sort of white cheese on it and chopped up lettuce on top of the cheese with mayo on the lettuce.  Then, on half of the plate rim, are strawberries cut in half, cut side down, with powdered sugar sprinkled on each one.  Let's see, there are 6 strawberry halves!  And in the middle of the plate is a little pile of bugles!  I didn't have the heart to tell him I've eaten so many bugles this morning I can't eat one more!  I should take a picture of this and show you all.  It's so nice!  I feel loved (or at least appreciated!)   :wink:


  Aweeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...LOL LOL  HOW SWEET!!!  He sure sounds like a keeper for your daughter!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 03:44:28 PM
Yeah, he's a sweetie-pie and he's very loving to her.  I just need him to get a job now...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Houdini on June 27, 2006, 03:44:44 PM
Years ago my Father-in-law was a recovering alcoholic and managed an AA group.  He was a substance abuse counselor for the veterans administration.  He asked me to convert a bunch of reel to reel tapes of meetings to cassette for him so he could use them as inspirational stories.

The one I can't forget is  Hello my name is John, and I'm an alcoholic.  I never thought I had a problem, I just thought I drank socially.  My mother in law moved in with my wife and I and they would both be waiting up for me when I came home from the bar  (tore up).  One night I came home and they were both waiting for me in the living room.  An intense argument ensued.  I could hardly get a word in with both of them citing my shortcomings.  So I finally screamed "Oh, I get it------ I'm the problem.  Well I can fix that.
     With a great show of bravado I staggered into the kitchen, turned the gas on in the oven, got on my knees and stuck my head in.  They both immediately started grabbing at me, then I realized they were HOLDING ME IN :shock:
I've been in AA ever since.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 03:45:17 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Yeah, he's a sweetie-pie and he's very loving to her.  I just need him to get a job now...


Yessssss

But sounds like a genuine guy.

No amount of money can buy that!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 27, 2006, 03:46:23 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
San, how are you doing?  That hero sounds good.  I wish I had not eaten so much canteloupe yesterday.  I have the green-apple two-step today.
[/b]

Ok, now I KNOW i'm Jersey...

Never heard that before in my life!!!!!!!!!! :lol:  :lol:


  Me either!!  :)
I can guess what it means though.


TYLER.. hope you feel better. Ummm.. maybe try some PEPTO or Immdoium ???


Or eat a grilled cheese.   :roll:


 That would work.. or bananas or rice even. !!


Rice.  That's the ticket.  The reason certain people put it with all that spicy food :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 03:46:37 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Oh, man.  Tyler, I went to fix a bite to eat and had to iron some shirts for some guy, and I come back and you are deleting some of the best writing I've read in a long time.  Wahhh...you need to put it back.  Please.  Pretty please.  I thought it was very provocative.  Collaborative stories are rough drafts, and it might not make the edits, but please don't delete it.


Seperated at birth, AZ, I'm telling ya!  

I thought it was great.  I was very intrigued.  Oh well.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 03:47:43 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Yeah, he's a sweetie-pie and he's very loving to her.  I just need him to get a job now...


Will keep him in prayers AZ!! :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 03:49:03 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Oh, man.  Tyler, I went to fix a bite to eat and had to iron some shirts for some guy, and I come back and you are deleting some of the best writing I've read in a long time.  Wahhh...you need to put it back.  Please.  Pretty please.  I thought it was very provocative.  Collaborative stories are rough drafts, and it might not make the edits, but please don't delete it.


Seperated at birth, AZ, I'm telling ya!  

I thought it was great.  I was very intrigued.  Oh well.


I think so, Peaches.  My long lost twin--I ate peaches for breakfast today, inspired by your name (and the fact that there were three in the frig calling me!)   :lol:   I thought Tyler's story was great and was leading in some dramatic and mysterious direction.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 03:49:42 PM
Quote from: "Houdini"
Years ago my Father-in-law was a recovering alcoholic and managed an AA group.  He was a substance abuse counselor for the veterans administration.  He asked me to convert a bunch of reel to reel tapes of meetings to cassette for him so he could use them as inspirational stories.

The one I can't forget is  Hello my name is John, and I'm an alcoholic.  I never thought I had a problem, I just thought I drank socially.  My mother in law moved in with my wife and I and they would both be waiting up for me when I came home from the bar  (tore up).  One night I came home and they were both waiting for me in the living room.  An intense argument ensued.  I could hardly get a word in with both of them citing my shortcomings.  So I finally screamed "Oh, I get it------ I'm the problem.  Well I can fix that.
     With a great show of bravado I staggered into the kitchen, turned the gas on in the oven, got on my knees and stuck my head in.  They both immediately started grabbing at me, then I realized they were HOLDING ME IN :shock:
I've been in AA ever since.



  HOLY CRAP~!!!!!!!!!!!!!   DANG.. what an intervention that was, huh? !


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on June 27, 2006, 03:51:00 PM
I am in charge of a meeting tonight that doesn't begin until 6:00 pm, and I have to feed them sandwiches and stuff while we eat. Sigh.

Time to go grocery shopping monkeys. See ya later.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 27, 2006, 03:52:25 PM
BTGirl,

Its raining really hard right now and my dog is out of dog food and I would appreciate it if you pick up some at the store, I will gladly pay you next Tuesday..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 03:53:11 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Yeah, he's a sweetie-pie and he's very loving to her.  I just need him to get a job now...


Will keep him in prayers AZ!! :)


Thanks, Ang.  I know he'll get a good job soon.  He wants to work and is in that in-between stage of interviews and it's driving him nuts.  He's just 23, so young, out of college only 6 months.  He told me today he applied for some graphic artist job at Staples office supply where they do some sort of graphics for walk-in customers, just to tide him over until he nails a real job.  He has lots of apps in and had several interviews but nothing has materialized yet.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 03:53:20 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
My son just informed me.. that his friends that were in the accident are doing fine.  Brandon has a concussion .. some cuts.. etc.
Melissa DOES NOT have a broken neck like they thought.. its BAD BAD BAD whiplash. She has to have plastic surgery on her broken nose.. :(
and she has a concussion.   Im glad they are going to be fine and I am VERY happy to hear the poor gal don't have a broken neck. WHEW!


Good news, happy to hear it.


I'll drink to that!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 27, 2006, 03:53:52 PM
FlyingMermaid whats for dinner tonight?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 03:54:19 PM
TylergalRice.  That's the ticket.  The reason certain people put it with all that spicy food :lol:[/quote]


  Yeppers Tyler,,,
  I recall when my kids were babies.. and they had the flu.. and poops..
the dr always said to follow the B.R.A.T. Diet
B ~Bananas
R~ Rice
A~ Apples
T~ tea

 Last I was in the Dr's office with my son.. (which he hates to go to cause its his ped. from when he was born,. and he has to sit amoung crying babies and toddlers..LOL)  I saw a post on the wall there about this BRAT diet and if it really works. It always did on my kids.. (IMO)..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 03:58:08 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Yeah, he's a sweetie-pie and he's very loving to her.  I just need him to get a job now...


Will keep him in prayers AZ!! :)


Thanks, Ang.  I know he'll get a good job soon.  He wants to work and is in that in-between stage of interviews and it's driving him nuts.  He's just 23, so young, out of college only 6 months.  He told me today he applied for some graphic artist job at Staples office supply where they do some sort of graphics for walk-in customers, just to tide him over until he nails a real job.  He has lots of apps in and had several interviews but nothing has materialized yet.


  Thats awesome.. I hope it comes through for him til he finds something else!!  We'll keep our fingers and toes crossed for him!!!  :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on June 27, 2006, 03:59:04 PM
Quote from: "terryd270"
BTGirl,

Its raining really hard right now and my dog is out of dog food and I would appreciate it if you pick up some at the store, I will gladly pay you next Tuesday..


Hey Terry

My little spoiled brats have a whole case of Canine ID that I bought them at the vets. I'll just drop some by your house on my way to the store. :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 03:59:27 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
My son just informed me.. that his friends that were in the accident are doing fine.  Brandon has a concussion .. some cuts.. etc.
Melissa DOES NOT have a broken neck like they thought.. its BAD BAD BAD whiplash. She has to have plastic surgery on her broken nose.. :(
and she has a concussion.   Im glad they are going to be fine and I am VERY happy to hear the poor gal don't have a broken neck. WHEW!


Good news, happy to hear it.


I'll drink to that!


  CHEERS Peaches!!  (http://bestsmileys.com/drinking/10.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 04:00:03 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
I am in charge of a meeting tonight that doesn't begin until 6:00 pm, and I have to feed them sandwiches and stuff while we eat. Sigh.

Time to go grocery shopping monkeys. See ya later.


I think you have a Panera Bread place in CHA.  The chorus used to ca ter lunches for us from there.  Good stuff.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 04:00:34 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
I am in charge of a meeting tonight that doesn't begin until 6:00 pm, and I have to feed them sandwiches and stuff while we eat. Sigh.

Time to go grocery shopping monkeys. See ya later.


  MOM.. get some HAMSALAD......  Be nice and easy to make sandwhiches!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 04:01:44 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
I am in charge of a meeting tonight that doesn't begin until 6:00 pm, and I have to feed them sandwiches and stuff while we eat. Sigh.

Time to go grocery shopping monkeys. See ya later.


I think you have a Panera Bread place in CHA.  The chorus used to ca ter lunches for us from there.  Good stuff.


  My son works at Panera Bread.. he LOVES it!  :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 04:01:50 PM
Tyler, I second that.  The BRAT diet is the trick. The dr recommended it for my mom when she had intestinal problems.  She's 79 and has told me for 6 months that she has diarrhea every morning.  I asked if she had cramping or other symptoms.  No, nothing else, she feels fine.  Knowing her propensity for exaggeration, I didn't worry about it.  She finally talked herself into believing she had some exotic parasite from Mexico (we go there often) or something.  She went to the dr and they told her to fast for 24 hours, eat BRAT diet for 24 hours and then normal diet for 24 hours.  She took samples in to dr, complained to me loudly and often about how hungry she was the first day, and it was all so icky!!!  Tests all came back negative and she is perfectly fine.  I couldn't resist saying, "I told you so."  She's one who eats a whole cantalope in a day because it tastes so good, and then she's too full to eat anything else and wonders why she has a touch of green apple, two-step!  Geesh.  Anyway, the BRAT diet is the trick-fixes you right up.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 27, 2006, 04:02:25 PM
Quote from: "terryd270"
FlyingMermaid whats for dinner tonight?


shrimp alfredo - Mr. Mermaid's Marine son (21) in town for a week before leaving for Iraq.

I posted before tat they don't serve shrimp alfredo in his mess tent in the desert!

It's his fav!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 04:02:34 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
I am in charge of a meeting tonight that doesn't begin until 6:00 pm, and I have to feed them sandwiches and stuff while we eat. Sigh.

Time to go grocery shopping monkeys. See ya later.


I think you have a Panera Bread place in CHA.  The chorus used to ca ter lunches for us from there.  Good stuff.


  My son works at Panera Bread.. he LOVES it!  :)


We have Panera too.  Good stuff.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 27, 2006, 04:03:16 PM
BTGirl,

Starla will be waiting for her food.. Hey it looks like it slow down and I might be able to pickup some dog food after all..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 04:05:23 PM
Panera Bread must be an eastern thing.  I haven't heard of it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 04:05:50 PM
NANCY GRACE - CNN HEADLINE NEWS  8PM Eastern

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

Tuesday's show
Natalee Holloway

A new witness has surfaced in Aruba in connection with the Natalee Holloway case. What he is telling authorities. Tune in at 8 p.m. ET


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 04:06:16 PM
Quote from: "terryd270"
BTGirl,

Starla will be waiting for her food.. Hey it looks like it slow down and I might be able to pickup some dog food after all..


I feel your pain, Terry.  I have to make a trip to the store for dog food and cat food.  I wouldn't be outta cat food except I was low on dog food and supplemented doggie dinners with cat food.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 04:06:30 PM
Woo hoo!  Thanks Klaas.  Nancy Grace is on the story.  That's good news.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 04:06:48 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
I am in charge of a meeting tonight that doesn't begin until 6:00 pm, and I have to feed them sandwiches and stuff while we eat. Sigh.

Time to go grocery shopping monkeys. See ya later.


I think you have a Panera Bread place in CHA.  The chorus used to ca ter lunches for us from there.  Good stuff.


  My son works at Panera Bread.. he LOVES it!  :)


We have Panera too.  Good stuff.


 I never ate anything in there yet.. and its only 10 minutes form my house.
 I had to take him his wallet last week.. and it smelled sooooooo yummy in there.. I didnt pay much attention to what they all have. But its such a nice place.. and they have umbrella tables outside too!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 04:06:53 PM
http://www.panerabread.com/


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 27, 2006, 04:07:20 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Panera Bread must be an eastern thing.  I haven't heard of it.


Yeah, I've read of it, but don't know what it is.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Red on June 27, 2006, 04:08:50 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
NANCY GRACE - CNN HEADLINE NEWS  8PM Eastern

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

Tuesday's show
Natalee Holloway

A new witness has surfaced in Aruba in connection with the Natalee Holloway case. What he is telling authorities. Tune in at 8 p.m. ET


Also on Rita Cosby 'Live & Direct' tonight at 10pm edt

Rita will be talking to Bo Dietl and talking about the latest on Aruba


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 04:09:05 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Panera Bread must be an eastern thing.  I haven't heard of it.




 Check it out AZ~!!

http://www.panerabread.com/


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 27, 2006, 04:09:43 PM
FlyingMermaid,

I think I would be in heaven if I had great tasting food everynight..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 27, 2006, 04:09:57 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "terryd270"
BTGirl,

Starla will be waiting for her food.. Hey it looks like it slow down and I might be able to pickup some dog food after all..


I feel your pain, Terry.  I have to make a trip to the store for dog food and cat food.  I wouldn't be outta cat food except I was low on dog food and supplemented doggie dinners with cat food.


just order it from amazon (front page, hint, hint) and don't drive...LOL... Peaches, I feel your pain driving in your neck of the woods the thought of it makes me tired...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 04:09:59 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
http://www.panerabread.com/


We're sorry, there aren't any Panera Bread locations within 50 miles of your search criteria. If you wish, you can try your search again.

Bummer


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 04:10:06 PM
TY Klaasend and RED~!!

JACKIE SISTAH... we must have ESP..LOL LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 27, 2006, 04:10:27 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Panera Bread must be an eastern thing.  I haven't heard of it.


Yeah, I've read of it, but don't know what it is.


Very YUMMY!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 04:10:30 PM
http://www.panerabread.com/locations.aspx

They have tons in your neck oh the woods.....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 04:11:09 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
TY Klaasend and RED~!!

JACKIE SISTAH... we must have ESP..LOL LOL


I do believe you are an honary jersey tomata!!!!!!!! :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 27, 2006, 04:11:40 PM
Quote from: "terryd270"
FlyingMermaid,

I think I would be in heaven if I had great tasting food everynight..


Me too, dead from morbid obesity.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 27, 2006, 04:12:19 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Panera Bread must be an eastern thing.  I haven't heard of it.


Southern too, akin to Atlanta Bread Company.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 04:12:40 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "terryd270"
FlyingMermaid,

I think I would be in heaven if I had great tasting food everynight..


Me too, dead from morbid obesity.


OMG   :lol:   I am laughing so hard I'm on the floor.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 04:12:51 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
TY Klaasend and RED~!!

JACKIE SISTAH... we must have ESP..LOL LOL


I do believe you are an honary jersey tomata!!!!!!!! :lol:


  LMAO~!!!!   COOL!!  :) :)  Love those too!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 04:14:04 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Panera Bread must be an eastern thing.  I haven't heard of it.


Southern too, akin to Atlanta Bread Company.


We have an atlanta bread co. here. I love their coffeE!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 27, 2006, 04:14:04 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "terryd270"
BTGirl,

Starla will be waiting for her food.. Hey it looks like it slow down and I might be able to pickup some dog food after all..


I feel your pain, Terry.  I have to make a trip to the store for dog food and cat food.  I wouldn't be outta cat food except I was low on dog food and supplemented doggie dinners with cat food.


just order it from amazon (front page, hint, hint) and don't drive...LOL... Peaches, I feel your pain driving in your neck of the woods the thought of it makes me tired...


I agree, Mrs. Red.  When we lived there years ago, it was fine.  Now I had just as soon visit the Southwest or Gulf Coast as to try to get through Atlanta.  Even the taxi drivers there complain about the drivers. :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 27, 2006, 04:14:15 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
http://www.panerabread.com/locations.aspx

They have tons in your neck oh the woods.....


Heh, Heh, yeah, the 3 that showed up for me are in what would be considered 'High Dollar' areas.

Places I don't frequent much.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 04:16:52 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
http://www.panerabread.com/locations.aspx

They have tons in your neck oh the woods.....


Heh, Heh, yeah, the 3 that showed up for me are in what would be considered 'High Dollar' areas.

Places I don't frequent much.


Sounds like you'll need to make an uptown drive, Carnut!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 27, 2006, 04:17:08 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Panera Bread must be an eastern thing.  I haven't heard of it.


Southern too, akin to Atlanta Bread Company.


I think it's the same company... just named differently for locations?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 27, 2006, 04:17:21 PM
Peaches,

I had a date once and she went to a meat butcher for the best cuts of meats and while we went outside to have some drinks, my dog ate both steaks..  She never liked my dog after thats and accused me of not giving my dog manners.. How does one give dogs manners?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 04:17:27 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
http://www.panerabread.com/locations.aspx

They have tons in your neck oh the woods.....


Heh, Heh, yeah, the 3 that showed up for me are in what would be considered 'High Dollar' areas.

Places I don't frequent much.


Sounds like you'll need to make an uptown drive, Carnut!


UPTOWN GIRL...SHE'S BEEN LIVIN IN HER PANERA BREAD WORLD...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 04:17:50 PM
So I wonder who Nancy Grace will be interviewing.  Did we decide that she already knows about the painted rocks?  The belt?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 27, 2006, 04:17:51 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "terryd270"
BTGirl,

Starla will be waiting for her food.. Hey it looks like it slow down and I might be able to pickup some dog food after all..


I feel your pain, Terry.  I have to make a trip to the store for dog food and cat food.  I wouldn't be outta cat food except I was low on dog food and supplemented doggie dinners with cat food.


just order it from amazon (front page, hint, hint) and don't drive...LOL... Peaches, I feel your pain driving in your neck of the woods the thought of it makes me tired...


I understand your hint here, been reading about Amazon exploring the food delivery business.

I do real good with Amazon, they have a wharehouse nearby so my deliveries in the past of books and DVD's have been real quick.

Kinda wonder if that same wharehouse will be doing the food thing.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 04:18:46 PM
Quote from: "terryd270"
Peaches,

I had a date once and she went to a meat butcher for the best cuts of meats and while we went outside to have some drinks, my dog ate both steaks..  She never liked my dog after thats and accused me of not giving my dog manners.. How does one give dogs manners?


omg THAT WOULD HAVE MELTED MY HEART....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 04:19:45 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Panera Bread must be an eastern thing.  I haven't heard of it.


Southern too, akin to Atlanta Bread Company.


I think it's the same company... just named differently for locations?


I don't think so.  A friend of mine works at the main office of Atl. Bread Co.  We also have Panera Bread.  Menus are pretty similar.  Kinda like upscale deli sandwiches.  Not many delis here.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 04:19:47 PM
DANA PRETZER - just posted in front page area:

Art Wood will join me on the show this Sunday and I will try and get the answers we all need.

Dana


CBAND TALK RADIO - DANA PRETZER


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 04:20:16 PM
Quote from: "terryd270"
Peaches,

I had a date once and she went to a meat butcher for the best cuts of meats and while we went outside to have some drinks, my dog ate both steaks..  She never liked my dog after thats and accused me of not giving my dog manners.. How does one give dogs manners?


Heh, heh...one keeps the steaks in the frig until time to put them on the grill when the dog is in the kitchen--or the cat, for that matter.  My sister caught my cat licking the butter on the kitchen counter and refused to eat dinner at my house that night.  Whatever...we didn't miss her.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 04:22:18 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "terryd270"
Peaches,

I had a date once and she went to a meat butcher for the best cuts of meats and while we went outside to have some drinks, my dog ate both steaks..  She never liked my dog after thats and accused me of not giving my dog manners.. How does one give dogs manners?


Heh, heh...one keeps the steaks in the frig until time to put them on the grill when the dog is in the kitchen--or the cat, for that matter.  My sister caught my cat licking the butter on the kitchen counter and refused to eat dinner at my house that night.  Whatever...we didn't miss her.


Uh oh.  Cats like butter? Guess I better move the butter dish!  Who knew?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 27, 2006, 04:22:19 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Panera Bread must be an eastern thing.  I haven't heard of it.


Southern too, akin to Atlanta Bread Company.


I think it's the same company... just named differently for locations?


I don't think so.  A friend of mine works at the main office of Atl. Bread Co.  We also have Panera Bread.  Menus are pretty similar.  Kinda like upscale deli sandwiches.  Not many delis here.


Heh, Heh, I frequent 'Moe's' sandwich shop regularly here.

A hole in the wall biker bar deli shop type place.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 04:22:23 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "terryd270"
Peaches,

I had a date once and she went to a meat butcher for the best cuts of meats and while we went outside to have some drinks, my dog ate both steaks..  She never liked my dog after thats and accused me of not giving my dog manners.. How does one give dogs manners?


Heh, heh...one keeps the steaks in the frig until time to put them on the grill when the dog is in the kitchen--or the cat, for that matter.  My sister caught my cat licking the butter on the kitchen counter and refused to eat dinner at my house that night.  Whatever...we didn't miss her.


hmmmm maybe that will work with my sister in law! :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 04:23:18 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "terryd270"
Peaches,

I had a date once and she went to a meat butcher for the best cuts of meats and while we went outside to have some drinks, my dog ate both steaks..  She never liked my dog after thats and accused me of not giving my dog manners.. How does one give dogs manners?


Heh, heh...one keeps the steaks in the frig until time to put them on the grill when the dog is in the kitchen--or the cat, for that matter.  My sister caught my cat licking the butter on the kitchen counter and refused to eat dinner at my house that night.  Whatever...we didn't miss her.


Uh oh.  Cats like butter? Guess I better move the butter dish!  Who knew?


My little black cat loves butter, so we just always keep the cover on the butter dish.  The little rascal...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 04:23:54 PM
Carnut, do you have runzas?  As in Runza Drive-In?  The thought of runzas makes me homesick for Nebraska.  Where the West begins.  Where men are men and sheep are nervous.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 04:27:09 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "terryd270"
Peaches,

I had a date once and she went to a meat butcher for the best cuts of meats and while we went outside to have some drinks, my dog ate both steaks..  She never liked my dog after thats and accused me of not giving my dog manners.. How does one give dogs manners?


Heh, heh...one keeps the steaks in the frig until time to put them on the grill when the dog is in the kitchen--or the cat, for that matter.  My sister caught my cat licking the butter on the kitchen counter and refused to eat dinner at my house that night.  Whatever...we didn't miss her.


hmmmm maybe that will work with my sister in law! :roll:


It's worth a try.   :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 27, 2006, 04:27:29 PM
I must be spoiled or something cause I have Panera and Atlanta Bread about 5 mins away.

My town put the C in Consumer and the Y in Yuppie!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 27, 2006, 04:27:44 PM
Quote from: "terryd270"
Peaches,

I had a date once and she went to a meat butcher for the best cuts of meats and while we went outside to have some drinks, my dog ate both steaks..  She never liked my dog after thats and accused me of not giving my dog manners.. How does one give dogs manners?


My cat streaked across the dining table one Thanksgiving and grabbed herself some turkey.  :lol:

Another time my college roommate's  Old Englis Sheepdog ate my tin of homemade choc chip cookies.  Then she parfumed the room for a couple days.   :(


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 04:27:53 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
DANA PRETZER - just posted in front page area:

Art Wood will join me on the show this Sunday and I will try and get the answers we all need.

Dana


CBAND TALK RADIO - DANA PRETZER


  AWESOME~!!!!!!!!!!!!

  EASYWRITER..  (http://bestsmileys.com/love2/1.gif)

  TY~!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 04:28:06 PM
Well, friends, I need to hit the showers and then get something done around here before Nancy Grace and the conversation afterwards.  I'll be back.  See ya!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 04:29:40 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Carnut, do you have runzas?  As in Runza Drive-In?  The thought of runzas makes me homesick for Nebraska.  Where the West begins.  Where men are men and sheep are nervous.


 LMAO PEACHES!!!!!!!!!!   (http://bestsmileys.com/lol/1.gif)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 04:30:57 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "terryd270"
Peaches,

I had a date once and she went to a meat butcher for the best cuts of meats and while we went outside to have some drinks, my dog ate both steaks..  She never liked my dog after thats and accused me of not giving my dog manners.. How does one give dogs manners?


My cat streaked across the dining table one Thanksgiving and grabbed herself some turkey.  :lol:

Another time my college roommate's  Old Englis Sheepdog ate my tin of homemade choc chip cookies.  Then she parfumed the room for a couple days.   :(


Doncha love those animals!   :lol:   Kitty was just hungry!  We had a tiny poodle who ripped open a gift under the Christmas tree one year of Hershey's kisses in a coffee cup.  She ate several of them and was a rather sick little poodle for a day or so.  Now any gifts of food cannot go under the tree with other gifts!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 27, 2006, 04:31:06 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Carnut, do you have runzas?  As in Runza Drive-In?  The thought of runzas makes me homesick for Nebraska.  Where the West begins.  Where men are men and sheep are nervous.


No Runzas in Wichita that I am aware of.

Our homegrown fast food joint, other than the Nationals like Pizza Hut, Taco Tico, and White Kastle's is a place that started out as 'Craigs Coney Island' and morphed into 'Spangles' several years ago.

Our big local Drive-in's were T&C's aka 'Town and Country' super popular 'in the day', defunct now and Kings-X also gone.

Now it's just  'Sonic', which I have one in my front yard and an occasional A&W.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 27, 2006, 04:34:10 PM
i miss the days before everything was the same everywhere...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 04:34:11 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Carnut, do you have runzas?  As in Runza Drive-In?  The thought of runzas makes me homesick for Nebraska.  Where the West begins.  Where men are men and sheep are nervous.


No Runzas in Wichita that I am aware of.

Our homegrown fast food joint, other than the Nationals like Pizza Hut, Taco Tico, and White Kastle's is a place that started out as 'Craigs Coney Island' and morphed into 'Spangles' several years ago.

Our big local Drive-in's were T&C's aka 'Town and Country' super popular 'in the day', defunct now and Kings-X also gone.

Now it's just  'Sonic', which I have one in my front yard and an occasional A&W.


We finally got a Sonic two miles away.  No A & W.  I remember hopping in the stationwagon and going to A & W for root beers.  Miss that.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 27, 2006, 04:34:51 PM
Hello everyone!  I'm back...

So, is there any news coverage this evening?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 04:36:53 PM
Carnut, closest Runza Drive-In to you is in Lawrence, KS.  ROADTRIP!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 27, 2006, 04:37:07 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Carnut, do you have runzas?  As in Runza Drive-In?  The thought of runzas makes me homesick for Nebraska.  Where the West begins.  Where men are men and sheep are nervous.


No Runzas in Wichita that I am aware of.

Our homegrown fast food joint, other than the Nationals like Pizza Hut, Taco Tico, and White Kastle's is a place that started out as 'Craigs Coney Island' and morphed into 'Spangles' several years ago.

Our big local Drive-in's were T&C's aka 'Town and Country' super popular 'in the day', defunct now and Kings-X also gone.

Now it's just  'Sonic', which I have one in my front yard and an occasional A&W.


We finally got a Sonic two miles away.  No A & W.  I remember hopping in the stationwagon and going to A & W for root beers.  Miss that.


Not just a root beer a root beer float!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 27, 2006, 04:37:07 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"


Doncha love those animals!   :lol:   Kitty was just hungry!  We had a tiny poodle who ripped open a gift under the Christmas tree one year of Hershey's kisses in a coffee cup.  She ate several of them and was a rather sick little poodle for a day or so.  Now any gifts of food cannot go under the tree with other gifts!


AZ, I'm so glad your baby poodle survived the chocolate.  My first Yorkie drank a couple cups of coffee someone left on the floor at a party we went to.  Then he went bonkers and entertained us all with puppy energy fueled w/ caffeine.  I later found out that the caffeine could have killed him.  :(


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 27, 2006, 04:37:26 PM
I need to do some stuff and hope we hear something good tonight on Rita and Nancy..  Everyone take care..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 04:37:34 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Hello everyone!  I'm back...

So, is there any news coverage this evening?


Nancy Grace.        

Rita Cosby.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 04:38:14 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Hello everyone!  I'm back...

So, is there any news coverage this evening?



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Site Admin


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NANCY GRACE - CNN HEADLINE NEWS 8PM Eastern

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

Tuesday's show
Natalee Holloway

A new witness has surfaced in Aruba in connection with the Natalee Holloway case. What he is telling authorities. Tune in at 8 p.m. ET
 
    AND...Also on Rita Cosby 'Live & Direct' tonight at 10pm edt

Rita will be talking to Bo Dietl and talking about the latest on Aruba

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DANA PRETZER - just posted in front page area:

Art Wood will join me on the show this Sunday and I will try and get the answers we all need.

Dana

CBAND TALK RADIO - DANA PRETZER
 
 
 AND........


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 27, 2006, 04:39:19 PM
So, we're talking local fast food joints, eh?  It's funny...I see Sonic commercials all the time on TV, and I have yet to EVER see an actual Sonic's... :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 27, 2006, 04:41:27 PM
The radio station I listen to was having a phone in for "People with Annoying Voices" on television

Nancy and Rita made the cut

so did Chris Matthews and Bill O rielly


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 27, 2006, 04:41:39 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"

 
DANA PRETZER - just posted in front page area:

Art Wood will join me on the show this Sunday and I will try and get the answers we all need.

Dana

CBAND TALK RADIO - DANA PRETZER


For real??  Dana's THE MAN!!  Oh, and so are you Angie!!  Wait...That didn't come out right... :oops:

How you doin' girl?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 04:42:37 PM
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
The radio station I listen to was having a phone in for "People with Annoying Voices" on television

Nancy and Rita made the cut

so did Chris Matthews and Bill O rielly



 If I was on TV.. Id win hands down!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 27, 2006, 04:42:48 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
So, we're talking local fast food joints, eh?  It's funny...I see Sonic commercials all the time on TV, and I have yet to EVER see an actual Sonic's... :roll:


Ditto!

Or A Kohl's Dept store but constant commercials!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 04:42:56 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
i miss the days before everything was the same everywhere...


Mrs. Red - tell Red that Nancy Grace is covering the case tonight!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 27, 2006, 04:43:57 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
The radio station I listen to was having a phone in for "People with Annoying Voices" on television

Nancy and Rita made the cut

so did Chris Matthews and Bill O rielly



 If I was on TV.. Id win hands down!


I'll bet your voice is fabulous and sexy like Kathleen Turner!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 04:44:47 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"

 
DANA PRETZER - just posted in front page area:

Art Wood will join me on the show this Sunday and I will try and get the answers we all need.

Dana

CBAND TALK RADIO - DANA PRETZER


For real??  Dana's THE MAN!!  Oh, and so are you Angie!!  Wait...That didn't come out right... :oops:

How you doin' girl?


  ROFL~!!!!!!!!!   :)
 I am ok Sweety!  Little overwlemed lately wih real life.. I played hooky today from work.. :)  (heck I only ever missed 2 days in 9 months~!)
  How you be dude???


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Kimmy53 on June 27, 2006, 04:44:53 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "AZLady"


Doncha love those animals!   :lol:   Kitty was just hungry!  We had a tiny poodle who ripped open a gift under the Christmas tree one year of Hershey's kisses in a coffee cup.  She ate several of them and was a rather sick little poodle for a day or so.  Now any gifts of food cannot go under the tree with other gifts!


AZ, I'm so glad your baby poodle survived the chocolate.  My first Yorkie drank a couple cups of coffee someone left on the floor at a party we went to.  Then he went bonkers and entertained us all with puppy energy fueled w/ caffeine.  I later found out that the caffeine could have killed him.  :(


I never thought of caffeine as dangerous SF!  I knew about the chocolate and dogs though...  

We once had a boxer who knocked over a bottle of beer and lapped up as  much as he could.  He developed a taste for it and would beg and beg for a little sip from anyone who had a bottle! :shock:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 04:45:48 PM
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
The radio station I listen to was having a phone in for "People with Annoying Voices" on television

Nancy and Rita made the cut

so did Chris Matthews and Bill O rielly



 If I was on TV.. Id win hands down!


I'll bet your voice is fabulous and sexy like Kathleen Turner!



  LOL FM~!!  mmmmmmmmmm...  nope..!!  :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Kimmy53 on June 27, 2006, 04:46:26 PM
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
So, we're talking local fast food joints, eh?  It's funny...I see Sonic commercials all the time on TV, and I have yet to EVER see an actual Sonic's... :roll:


Ditto!

Or A Kohl's Dept store but constant commercials!



OHHHH!! Kohls is the best!  They have some great sales!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 27, 2006, 04:47:23 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
So, we're talking local fast food joints, eh?  It's funny...I see Sonic commercials all the time on TV, and I have yet to EVER see an actual Sonic's... :roll:


Don't know where Sonic actually started out, but they've been around here as far back as I remember. Sonic was always the place to go for a good cherry coke.

Sonic's have really been evolving in the last few years, now a days they are my favorite BLT and Extra Long Chili Cheese Coney place.

Course being a bit of a car guy I frequent the places that allow me to park for the most effective display of my vehicles while dining.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 27, 2006, 04:52:42 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
i miss the days before everything was the same everywhere...


Mrs. Red - tell Red that Nancy Grace is covering the case tonight!!


will do when I see him...LOL.. will do..

sorry :oops: I have been reading Tyler's story.. it's really good!!

leaving for home.. ttyl monkeys...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 27, 2006, 04:53:11 PM
I like What-A-Burger and Krystals every now and then.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 04:55:03 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I like What-A-Burger and Krystals every now and then.


EASY - did you see that Dana has confirmed that he will have Art Wood on his program this Sunday?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Kimmy53 on June 27, 2006, 04:55:51 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I like What-A-Burger and Krystals every now and then.


OMG Easy!  I was gonna mention What-A Burger, but I figured no one would have any idea what it was!  It is the BEST!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Kimmy53 on June 27, 2006, 04:56:29 PM
Well guys - gotta go for now... see ya later!  take care!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 27, 2006, 05:01:36 PM
They have a Whataburger  in Tallahassee but the ones I remember were in Laredo, Texas..  I haven't had one in 20 years..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 27, 2006, 05:06:27 PM
Bye Kimmy and Mrs Red!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 27, 2006, 05:06:33 PM
Klaas - you have mail.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 27, 2006, 05:10:22 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I like What-A-Burger and Krystals every now and then.


EASY - did you see that Dana has confirmed that he will have Art Wood on his program this Sunday?


Good!  Rob helped me with that one.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 27, 2006, 05:11:36 PM
Smoochies Monkeys!  See ya tomorrow!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 27, 2006, 05:20:05 PM
Quote from: "Kimmy53"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I like What-A-Burger and Krystals every now and then.


OMG Easy!  I was gonna mention What-A Burger, but I figured no one would have any idea what it was!  It is the BEST!


The oldest one here used to have car shows in its parking lot.  Very cool!  Sometimes I like to add some jalapenos to the basic What-a-Burger.

This has been one long a$$ day!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: blah on June 27, 2006, 05:23:23 PM
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
The radio station I listen to was having a phone in for "People with Annoying Voices" on television

Nancy and Rita made the cut

so did Chris Matthews and Bill O rielly


by default, Nancy Grace should automatically win any contest involving the word annoying (and several other choice words I wont mention here)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 27, 2006, 05:31:44 PM
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
The radio station I listen to was having a phone in for "People with Annoying Voices" on television

Nancy and Rita made the cut

so did Chris Matthews and Bill O rielly


by default, Nancy Grace should automatically win any contest involving the word annoying (and several other choice words I wont mention here)


She does have a way about her.  I'm surprised that some of her guest don't just get up and walk out. lol


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 05:37:20 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I like What-A-Burger and Krystals every now and then.


EASY - did you see that Dana has confirmed that he will have Art Wood on his program this Sunday?


Good!  Rob helped me with that one.


 AWESOME...  !!!!!!!!  Miss you ROB!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 05:39:14 PM
What station is NANCY on?  Isnt it like Court tv or sumthing?
I have Sattelite...  Direct TV!  TYIA


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on June 27, 2006, 05:39:44 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I like What-A-Burger and Krystals every now and then.


EASY - did you see that Dana has confirmed that he will have Art Wood on his program this Sunday?


Good!  Rob helped me with that one.


 AWESOME...  !!!!!!!!  Miss you ROB!


I wub Rob!

(Have I said that before?) :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Dayhiker on June 27, 2006, 05:41:27 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I like What-A-Burger and Krystals every now and then.


EASY - did you see that Dana has confirmed that he will have Art Wood on his program this Sunday?


Good!  Rob helped me with that one.



Hey Monkey's! Good going by you and Rob lining that up, Easy. I hope there are some questions answered about theis new evidence. Has everyone guessing. Fabric? Condom? Pipe?


 :!:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 27, 2006, 05:42:14 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
What station is NANCY on?  Isnt it like Court tv or sumthing?
I have Sattelite...  Direct TV!  TYIA


She does both CTV and CNN's Headline news.  I think her show tonight is the one everyone is talking about.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 05:42:33 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I like What-A-Burger and Krystals every now and then.


EASY - did you see that Dana has confirmed that he will have Art Wood on his program this Sunday?


Good!  Rob helped me with that one.


 AWESOME...  !!!!!!!!  Miss you ROB!


I wub Rob!

(Have I said that before?) :lol:

(http://bestsmileys.com/fainting/4.gif)
YEPPERS MOM~!!  LOL

Did yout get your sandwhiches made?
Im cooking now.. Cabbage and Noodles.. YUMMY
Hubby wants perogies too.. grrrrrrrr
  YEP MOM


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 05:43:08 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
What station is NANCY on?  Isnt it like Court tv or sumthing?
I have Sattelite...  Direct TV!  TYIA


I think it's CNN Headline News.  It's channel 35 at my house but I have regular Comcast cable.  Not even digital.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 05:43:50 PM
Quote from: "Dayhiker"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I like What-A-Burger and Krystals every now and then.


EASY - did you see that Dana has confirmed that he will have Art Wood on his program this Sunday?


Good!  Rob helped me with that one.



Hey Monkey's! Good going by you and Rob lining that up, Easy. I hope there are some questions answered about theis new evidence. Has everyone guessing. Fabric? Condom? Pipe?
 

 HI there DAY!!  

 :!:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: blah on June 27, 2006, 05:43:59 PM
BTW, what happened to the original Chicago videos that were at video google? The ones that are there right now are lower resolution than the ones originally put there.  Could this be the result of video google compressing their server or something?  Did anyone download them to their harddrive when Chicago_510 originally put them there?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 05:44:34 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
What station is NANCY on?  Isnt it like Court tv or sumthing?
I have Sattelite...  Direct TV!  TYIA


She does both CTV and CNN's Headline news.  I think her show tonight is the one everyone is talking about.



  TY  Sweety!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 27, 2006, 05:45:06 PM
Quote from: "Dayhiker"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I like What-A-Burger and Krystals every now and then.


EASY - did you see that Dana has confirmed that he will have Art Wood on his program this Sunday?


Good!  Rob helped me with that one.



Hey Monkey's! Good going by you and Rob lining that up, Easy. I hope there are some questions answered about theis new evidence. Has everyone guessing. Fabric? Condom? Pipe?


 :!:


Yeah, I had a miscommunication and got the wrong telephone number for Art.  Rob was able to step in and get that fixed.

I'm told Wood does not put much faith in this new witness, so he may not even talk very much about that.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 27, 2006, 05:45:26 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
What station is NANCY on?  Isnt it like Court tv or sumthing?
I have Sattelite...  Direct TV!  TYIA


I think it's CNN Headline News.  It's channel 35 at my house but I have regular Comcast cable.  Not even digital.


Heh, Heh, I'll be holding onto my analog TV until they pry it from my cold dead hands.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 05:45:34 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
What station is NANCY on?  Isnt it like Court tv or sumthing?
I have Sattelite...  Direct TV!  TYIA


I think it's CNN Headline News.  It's channel 35 at my house but I have regular Comcast cable.  Not even digital.


  Ty Peaches sweety!!  I can look on my index to find CNN.. I havnt watched in her a Longggggggg time..lol


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Dayhiker on June 27, 2006, 05:45:48 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Dayhiker"
[quote="Easywriter

 HI there DAY!!  

 :!:



Hey Angie!

 :)  :)  :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: wreck on June 27, 2006, 05:46:45 PM
Okay, Sonic Drive-Ins are based out of Oklahoma City and are mutiplying very fast nationwide. The first one was in Shawnee, Oklahoma.
What-A-Burger started and is based out of Corpus Christie, Texas.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 05:48:33 PM
Quote from: "blah"
BTW, what happened to the original Chicago videos that were at video google? The ones that are there right now are lower resolution than the ones originally put there.  Could this be the result of video google compressing their server or something?  Did anyone download them to their harddrive when Chicago_510 originally put them there?



  HI BLAH!!  I have a NEW name.. did yah hear? Drink ass hick hick bitch.. ROFLMAO~!!
  KLASSEND sent me the videos long ago.. when they first appeared.. for some reason they would not load for me.
  I dont know if she or perhaps Rob or anyone else may have downloaded them to their harddrives?  Maybe even Hotshot?
  All I have is a link to them..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 05:49:36 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "blah"
BTW, what happened to the original Chicago videos that were at video google? The ones that are there right now are lower resolution than the ones originally put there.  Could this be the result of video google compressing their server or something?  Did anyone download them to their harddrive when Chicago_510 originally put them there?



  HI BLAH!!  I have a NEW name.. did yah hear? Drink ass hick hick bitch.. ROFLMAO~!!
  KLASSEND sent me the videos long ago.. when they first appeared.. for some reason they would not load for me.
  I dont know if she or perhaps Rob or anyone else may have downloaded them to their harddrives?  Maybe even Hotshot?
  All I have is a link to them..


  WTF?   Drunk ass hick bitch.     (My keybaord needs help.. keys are sticking.. and NO its not from spilling BOOZE in it either)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 27, 2006, 05:49:58 PM
Quote from: "wreck"
Okay, Sonic Drive-Ins are based out of Oklahoma City and are mutiplying very fast nationwide. The first one was in Shawnee, Oklahoma.
What-A-Burger started and is based out of Corpus Christie, Texas.


Neato, I think Brahms Ice Cream is also out of OKC.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Dayhiker on June 27, 2006, 05:52:55 PM
Quote from: Easywriter
Quote from: "Dayhiker"
[quote="Easywriter
Yeah, I had a miscommunication and got the wrong telephone number for Art.  Rob was able to step in and get that fixed.

I'm told Wood does not put much faith in this new witness, so he may not even talk very much about that.



It would just be good if Art could clear some things up. I'd like to know why he's been held so long and hasn't been arrested. If he hasn't been arrested he must not be a suspect, but he must be there for something they think is important to the case. Are they just protecting him until his story checks out, for two months? If he's got DNA they can clear that one up in one week, two at the outside. What's taken two months?

 :?:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 27, 2006, 05:53:15 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"

I'm told Wood does not put much faith in this new witness, so he may not even talk very much about that.


Does ANYONE put much faith in this new "witness"?  Man, seems this fool's spent more time in the slam then the guy who he claims to have seen commit the crime itself... :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 05:54:49 PM
Quote from: "wreck"
Okay, Sonic Drive-Ins are based out of Oklahoma City and are mutiplying very fast nationwide. The first one was in Shawnee, Oklahoma.
What-A-Burger started and is based out of Corpus Christie, Texas.




  Never heard of what a burger but is sounds YUMMY!
 we just got a new place local  called Redd Robbins.. (burger place). I havnt been in there yet..  I live at work.. :( and if not there.. at home when I am fortunate to have a day off...)  I lead a sheltered life anymore..LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: wreck on June 27, 2006, 05:54:58 PM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "wreck"
Okay, Sonic Drive-Ins are based out of Oklahoma City and are mutiplying very fast nationwide. The first one was in Shawnee, Oklahoma.
What-A-Burger started and is based out of Corpus Christie, Texas.


Neato, I think Brahms Ice Cream is also out of OKC.

Yes, they are as well! (I'm from OKC originally).


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 27, 2006, 05:55:05 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I like What-A-Burger and Krystals every now and then.


EASY - did you see that Dana has confirmed that he will have Art Wood on his program this Sunday?


Good!  Rob helped me with that one.


 AWESOME...  !!!!!!!!  Miss you ROB!


I wub Rob!

(Have I said that before?) :lol:


((deleted upon request)) klaasend


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: blah on June 27, 2006, 05:55:55 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "blah"
BTW, what happened to the original Chicago videos that were at video google? The ones that are there right now are lower resolution than the ones originally put there.  Could this be the result of video google compressing their server or something?  Did anyone download them to their harddrive when Chicago_510 originally put them there?



  HI BLAH!!  I have a NEW name.. did yah hear? Drink ass hick hick bitch.. ROFLMAO~!!
  KLASSEND sent me the videos long ago.. when they first appeared.. for some reason they would not load for me.
  I dont know if she or perhaps Rob or anyone else may have downloaded them to their harddrives?  Maybe even Hotshot?
  All I have is a link to them..


Hey Angie, what happened to swingingdick??
You cant just go changing your name every few months yanno !!
 :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 27, 2006, 05:57:11 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "Easywriter"

I'm told Wood does not put much faith in this new witness, so he may not even talk very much about that.


Does ANYONE put much faith in this new "witness"?  Man, seems this fool's spent more time in the slam then the guy who he claims to have seen commit the crime itself... :roll:


Dunno, I have a couple suspicions of the body disposal method he apparently claims.

Could've been as simple as swimming out to sea past a reef with a body and letting it go, possibly with the idea that at worst the body would wash back looking like drowned while swimming or at best float away and be devoured by sharks.

Does kinda seem simple, but I do doubt the weighted down bit.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 05:57:14 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "Easywriter"

I'm told Wood does not put much faith in this new witness, so he may not even talk very much about that.


Does ANYONE put much faith in this new "witness"?  Man, seems this fool's spent more time in the slam then the guy who he claims to have seen commit the crime itself... :roll:


  I am connnfused as well.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: blah on June 27, 2006, 06:00:34 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"

{{deleted upon request}}


hi mrs. red, I dont know a whole lot about what your talking about but, if your pissed off enough to say the Shit word a few times in the same sentence, its probably for a good reason.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 27, 2006, 06:00:41 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"

{{deleted upon request}}[/color]


Mrs Red, I concur.  And, as a matter of fact, I'm STILL a little sore about the whole thing.

Regardless of what are personal beliefs are, respect for one's hosts should be one of our main concerns.  Thank you for stating as such.  I've been actually biting my tongue for a while now about it...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 06:02:27 PM
Mrs Red.. I am staying the heck out of that one...
 I never saw a post ROB made about RED..?? I may have missed it if that happened??  If you could point me in that direction so I can see!!
 IMO.. if people have problems with one another.. they need to hash it out between themselves???
 I dont think anyone is being spiteful on purpose speaking of Rob.. ESP those who dont know whats happend????  
 Can someone enlighten me? I am LOST bigtime!!
 So  Robs name is taboo now here on the forum??  
 If thats the case..  I am done.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 27, 2006, 06:02:43 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "mrs. red"

{{deleted upon request}}[/color]


Mrs Red, I concur.  And, as a matter of fact, I'm STILL a little sore about the whole thing.

Regardless of what are personal beliefs are, respect for one's hosts should be one of our main concerns.  Thank you for stating as such.  I've been actually biting my tongue for a while now about it...


Thanks Third, I am sure that I should have kept my mouth shut though...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 06:03:39 PM
TS and others .. PLEASE tell me what ROB posted about RED??
I am totally missing something?????????????
 Or EMAIL me at least.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 06:04:55 PM
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "blah"
BTW, what happened to the original Chicago videos that were at video google? The ones that are there right now are lower resolution than the ones originally put there.  Could this be the result of video google compressing their server or something?  Did anyone download them to their harddrive when Chicago_510 originally put them there?



  HI BLAH!!  I have a NEW name.. did yah hear? Drink ass hick hick bitch.. ROFLMAO~!!
  KLASSEND sent me the videos long ago.. when they first appeared.. for some reason they would not load for me.
  I dont know if she or perhaps Rob or anyone else may have downloaded them to their harddrives?  Maybe even Hotshot?
  All I have is a link to them..


Hey Angie, what happened to swingingdick??
You cant just go changing your name every few months yanno !!
 :lol:


  Another forum changed it for me BLAH.. LMAO


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 27, 2006, 06:05:43 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Mrs Red.. I am staying the heck out of that one...
 I never saw a post ROB made about RED..?? I may have missed it if that happened??  If you could point me in that direction so I can see!!
 IMO.. if people have problems with one another.. they need to hash it out between themselves???
 I dont think anyone is being spiteful on purpose speaking of Rob.. ESP those who dont know whats happend????  
 Can someone enlighten me? I am LOST bigtime!!
 So  Robs name is taboo now here on the forum??  
 If thats the case..  I am done.


NO it isn't... but I have seen the snide comments and I know about several emails where he trashed Red... but no, I apologize... nevermind.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 06:06:01 PM
Is someone gonna answer my question ? PLEASE?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: blah on June 27, 2006, 06:06:08 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
TS and others .. PLEASE tell me what ROB posted about RED??
I am totally missing something?????????????
 Or EMAIL me at least.


I dunno, but if it doesnt have anything to do with the case, I dont want to know.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 06:06:16 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
TS and others .. PLEASE tell me what ROB posted about RED??
I am totally missing something?????????????
 Or EMAIL me at least.


Angie - check your email please


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 27, 2006, 06:06:45 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Is someone gonna answer my question ? PLEASE?


I did and like I said, I apologize....

 talk to yall later....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: blah on June 27, 2006, 06:07:21 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "blah"
BTW, what happened to the original Chicago videos that were at video google? The ones that are there right now are lower resolution than the ones originally put there.  Could this be the result of video google compressing their server or something?  Did anyone download them to their harddrive when Chicago_510 originally put them there?



  HI BLAH!!  I have a NEW name.. did yah hear? Drink ass hick hick bitch.. ROFLMAO~!!
  KLASSEND sent me the videos long ago.. when they first appeared.. for some reason they would not load for me.
  I dont know if she or perhaps Rob or anyone else may have downloaded them to their harddrives?  Maybe even Hotshot?
  All I have is a link to them..


Hey Angie, what happened to swingingdick??
You cant just go changing your name every few months yanno !!
 :lol:


  Another forum changed it for me BLAH.. LMAO


another forum??  Well, i'll still call ya SD    :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 06:07:41 PM
Blah - I have all the aru-bay videos downloaded to my hard drive.  Well actually, they are on a disc.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Dayhiker on June 27, 2006, 06:08:30 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "Easywriter"

I'm told Wood does not put much faith in this new witness, so he may not even talk very much about that.


Does ANYONE put much faith in this new "witness"?  Man, seems this fool's spent more time in the slam then the guy who he claims to have seen commit the crime itself... :roll:



Third, I don't put much faith in anything that comes out of that crap hole, just hope they'll get something right for a change. If they can nail it shut with this new witness so much the better, but their propensity for doing anything is questionable. One thing odd about this bird is he wasn't brought in and released right away in typical Aruban fashion.


 :?:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 27, 2006, 06:08:30 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "mrs. red"

{{deleted upon request}}[/color]


Mrs Red, I concur.  And, as a matter of fact, I'm STILL a little sore about the whole thing.

Regardless of what are personal beliefs are, respect for one's hosts should be one of our main concerns.  Thank you for stating as such.  I've been actually biting my tongue for a while now about it...


Thanks Third, I am sure that I should have kept my mouth shut though...


Don't mention it Mrs Red!  Maybe I was raised a little differently.  As the example goes, if you're (essentially) a guest in someone's home for dinner, you don't complain about the food!  If there are those who support Rob, then by all means support him.  But, do it outside of the home in which you are a guest of.  It's common courtesy...

Angie, I don't really have the energy to explain what I know of the situation.  If I did, I would most surely email you with the details...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 06:08:50 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
TS and others .. PLEASE tell me what ROB posted about RED??
I am totally missing something?????????????
 Or EMAIL me at least.


I'm out here in the dark as well.  I must have been taking a nap when the crap hit the fan.  Now I'm really confused.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: blah on June 27, 2006, 06:09:47 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Blah - I have all the aru-bay videos downloaded to my hard drive.  Well actually, they are on a disc.


klaas, can you do me a huge favor and e-mail me the 24 one (whenever you get a chnace, no big hurry)

Either that or do me a favor and watch it and compare it to the reeolution of the ones on video google to confirm i'm not nuts (or going blind)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 27, 2006, 06:11:38 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
i miss the days before everything was the same everywhere...


That's what my sisters say.  They return to the south to find it like Seattle and Los Angeles, hoping to find the same slow sleepy town with corner drugstores and community pools owned and operated by mom and pop, juke boxes and dance floors in long halls overhanging water.  Do they not read the paper, or what?  They were, however, fascinated to know we had penicillin now in case of some major illness. :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 06:12:01 PM
Blah, Carpe Noctem has a bunch of stills from 24 in a photobucket that he bookmarked on the Front Page.  I don't see anything that he's pointing out but that doesn't mean anything.  Have you looked at those?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 27, 2006, 06:14:39 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
i miss the days before everything was the same everywhere...


That's what my sisters say.  They return to the south to find it like Seattle and Los Angeles, hoping to find the same slow sleepy town with corner drugstores and community pools owned and operated by mom and pop, juke boxes and dance floors in long halls overhanging water.  Do they not read the paper, or what?  They were, however, fascinated to know we had penicillin now in case of some major illness. :lol:


I've always been one to enjoy familiar things being everywhere, though changes aren't really welcomed by me.

Heck I get upset everytime McDonalds remodels.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: blah on June 27, 2006, 06:15:11 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Blah, Carpe Noctem has a bunch of stills from 24 in a photobucket that he bookmarked on the Front Page.  I don't see anything that he's pointing out but that doesn't mean anything.  Have you looked at those?


Peaches, yes I have thanks.

I am looking for the videos from way back when Chicago first put them up on video google.  I SWEAR the resolution was alot better back then.  I know this because a little while ago i was looking at a section of the #24 video that I spent alot of time looking at way back when, and it is no where near as clear as it was before.  The ones on video google right now are more pixilated


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Leslie on June 27, 2006, 06:16:08 PM
Can anyone help me translate this:
http://www.diarioaruba.com/diamars/local/news3.html

Diario  June 27, 2006
http://www.diarioaruba.com/diamars/frontpage/index.html
BonDia  June 27, 2006
http://www.cspnv.com/archivo/pdf/27/A-27-06-2006.pdf
http://www.cspnv.com/archivo/pdf/27/B-27-06-2006.pdf
http://www.cspnv.com/archivo/pdf/27/C-27-06-2006.pdf

Pap translator:
http://papiamentu.donamaro.nl/


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: sandy leiva on June 27, 2006, 06:16:38 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
[quote="BTgirl I raised a durned drunk?! :shock:  :lol:




LOL  :)  Sorry mom..  :sniff sniff:.. those wolves really knew how to party!


Hee Hee Hee :lol:  :lol:  :lol:



  How is your weather MOM?  Its been AWFUL here.. sick of RAIN..
Wonder if Mrs Red has that ARK about ready!
  Ohhh.. and mom. if you hacnt ever visited NJ.. go sometime!
Its beautiful..  WILDWOOD and the boardwalk is awesome!!
 Just watch out for the tram car... and seagulls poopin on yah and taking food right off your plate too!  :)


A few years ago i was on the beach and got hit with a piece of pizza.
Thought the pizza fairy was shining on me....

It was a bird who had enough and dropped in promptly on my head. :roll:



 I know what you mean sistah!!!!  Those darned seagulls!!  LOL :)[/quote]

Hiya Angie, glad to hear the kids will be ok.  I had to laugh about the seagulls my dad loved fishing ,well he had a bald spot right in the middle of his head, and anytime he was outdoors without a hat the seagulls .... yep and the birds too thought the bullseye on his bald head was the place they were supposed to drop thier load.  It was a big joke in our house.  It was my job after awhile to make sure daddy never left the house wothout a hat.  lol.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 27, 2006, 06:16:48 PM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "mrs. red"

{{deleted upon request}}[/color]


Mrs Red, I concur.  And, as a matter of fact, I'm STILL a little sore about the whole thing.

Regardless of what are personal beliefs are, respect for one's hosts should be one of our main concerns.  Thank you for stating as such.  I've been actually biting my tongue for a while now about it...


What my friend, Third, said here.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on June 27, 2006, 06:17:43 PM
Hi Monkeys..

Making a post and run ~~~  have a hair appointment in a bit .

Questions for Art Wood.  
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=10  

It can't hurt to get the thought processing going early.
ANGIE.....  a  DAHB  (oh yes my kind of gal)   .... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


SYB..... alll


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 06:18:20 PM
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Blah - I have all the aru-bay videos downloaded to my hard drive.  Well actually, they are on a disc.


klaas, can you do me a huge favor and e-mail me the 24 one (whenever you get a chnace, no big hurry)

Either that or do me a favor and watch it and compare it to the reeolution of the ones on video google to confirm i'm not nuts (or going blind)


Blah - try this one.  Debbie at BFN uploaded.  You are right, the quality of the Google ones is not the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_X1QfGcQfU


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 06:20:08 PM
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Blah, Carpe Noctem has a bunch of stills from 24 in a photobucket that he bookmarked on the Front Page.  I don't see anything that he's pointing out but that doesn't mean anything.  Have you looked at those?


Peaches, yes I have thanks.

I am looking for the videos from way back when Chicago first put them up on video google.  I SWEAR the resolution was alot better back then.  I know this because a little while ago i was looking at a section of the #24 video that I spent alot of time looking at way back when, and it is no where near as clear as it was before.  The ones on video google right now are more pixilated


I think you're right.  I watched them a long tme ago and they did seem to be clearer.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 06:24:42 PM
Thanks Leslie - last I looked they hadn't updated yet today:

From today's DIARIO - maybe Whytegirl or someone can help translate

 ORANJESTAD (AAN): Keto bay ta keda demostra, cu e trabao di Park Rangernan di Parke Nacional Arikok ta uno valioso pa Aruba.  Nan ta patruya tur dia a lo largo di costa di Aruba, pa asina raporta cualkier cos incorecto cu nan mira.

   Dialuna mainta, esaki ta loke nan a bin topa cune den e rooi chikito banda di Dos Playa.

 Ta parce cu un stranhero a logra yega Aruba ilegalmente, y aki el a cambia su paña y a laga atras e saco y tambe su Jeans muha.

   Fuera di esey, a haya hopi cabuya geel, cu tin ningun muestra di deterioro riba dje, indicando cu e ta algo recien poni eynan.

   Park Rangernan corectamente a pone autoridad na altura di nan hayazgo.  Pues ta parce cu awor stranheronan ilegal ta drentando Aruba via costa Noordoost.

(http://www.diarioaruba.com/diamars/local/ilegales.1.jpg)
(http://www.diarioaruba.com/diamars/local/ilegales.2.jpg)

I think they are talking about illegals


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: igsigs on June 27, 2006, 06:26:04 PM
Quote from: "Leslie"
Can anyone help me translate this:
http://www.diarioaruba.com/diamars/local/news3.html

No. But i can guess.

Illeagal aliens are coming by way of the north beaches and leaving garbage behind and the park rangers don't like it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 06:26:31 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
TS and others .. PLEASE tell me what ROB posted about RED??
I am totally missing something?????????????
 Or EMAIL me at least.


Angie - check your email please


  I did.,. wrote back.. sorry I am cooking and running up and down the steps~!

   Mrs Red.. I had missed your post.. sorry!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: darleenofalabama on June 27, 2006, 06:27:56 PM
Hi, Ya'll!!

I was reading in here for a bit (great story, Tyler!), and now I have to go meet my neighbor for dinner, but I wanted to say farewell for the summer to ya'll; we're leaving the end of this week.  Ya'll have a great summer (and I know that we all agree that it would be truly great if Natalee's case was solved).

Oh, and somebody tell Nonesasha that she can wear my tiara in here while I'm away this summer--unless, of course, there's anyone else who wants it more :shock:  :shock:  :lol:  :lol:  8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Leslie on June 27, 2006, 06:28:09 PM
Park rangers found these items Monday morning at Dos Playa.  Both pictures are entitled "illegals".

That is the same place they found the naked corpse!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 06:29:52 PM
[quote="blahanother forum??  Well, i'll still call ya SD    :shock:[/quote]

  LOL..  You gotta BLAH.. its my pet name from yah! ha ha


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: blah on June 27, 2006, 06:29:54 PM
the areas i circled in this picture are very clearly footprints in the mud in the original Chicago videos.  You cant hardly tell in this picture which is a screenshot from the chicago videos on video google right now.

these footprints in the mud are right behind where that platic bag that sorta looks like it could have a body in it is at.

It is in the chicago_510_24 video, just before the part with the platic bag

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/footprints.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 27, 2006, 06:29:55 PM
Quote
Carpe Noctem Says:

June 27th, 2006 at 10:41 am
Whoever wants to come by and look at the 510-24 video still
pictures that I have been working on… you’re invited.

here is your link:

http://tinyurl.com/nbjee



ok...hello all! I suppose I should start with. Am I the only one freaked out by these analogies? I am trying to picture Beth or Dave seeing these description!! Is anyone thinking there is truth to this and I am overreacting or is this just beyond morbid?! I know the intentions are pure, but I don't think Natalee's body ended up here in this plastic and trying to find her here just creeps me out!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: blah on June 27, 2006, 06:31:25 PM
darn, sorry i blew the margins.


Are Jorans shoes in the bottom of those footprints in the mud???


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: blah on June 27, 2006, 06:32:55 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Blah - I have all the aru-bay videos downloaded to my hard drive.  Well actually, they are on a disc.


klaas, can you do me a huge favor and e-mail me the 24 one (whenever you get a chnace, no big hurry)

Either that or do me a favor and watch it and compare it to the reeolution of the ones on video google to confirm i'm not nuts (or going blind)


Blah - try this one.  Debbie at BFN uploaded.  You are right, the quality of the Google ones is not the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_X1QfGcQfU


thanks klaas, i'll check it out.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 06:33:53 PM
[quote="sandy leiva

Hiya Angie, glad to hear the kids will be ok.  I had to laugh about the seagulls my dad loved fishing ,well he had a bald spot right in the middle of his head, and anytime he was outdoors without a hat the seagulls .... yep and the birds too thought the bullseye on his bald head was the place they were supposed to drop thier load.  It was a big joke in our house.  It was my job after awhile to make sure daddy never left the house wothout a hat.  lol.[/quote]


  LMAO~!!  I was told on the beach its suppose ot be good luck if you get pooped on by a seagull? Ummm.. I bought tickets.. to win a boat.. $$$ and etc.  NOPE.. no luck for me!!!
  Its great to see you Sandy~!  :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 06:36:25 PM
Quote from: "darleenofalabama"
Hi, Ya'll!!

I was reading in here for a bit (great story, Tyler!), and now I have to go meet my neighbor for dinner, but I wanted to say farewell for the summer to ya'll; we're leaving the end of this week.  Ya'll have a great summer (and I know that we all agree that it would be truly great if Natalee's case was solved).

Oh, and somebody tell Nonesasha that she can wear my tiara in here while I'm away this summer--unless, of course, there's anyone else who wants it more :shock:  :shock:  :lol:  :lol:  8)


  Hi Darleen..
  Have a wonderful and safe trip!!
  If Nonesasha decides to take your tiara.. I will make sure she keeps it safe and polishes it and wraps it in the finest tissue paper! :)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 06:38:44 PM
Darleen, Bon Vonage!  Have a fabulous time!  See EVERYTHING!  Do EVERTHING!!   Have the time of your life!

Take some pictures so us poor folks can live vicariously when you return.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 27, 2006, 06:43:42 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Panera Bread must be an eastern thing.  I haven't heard of it.


Yeah, I've read of it, but don't know what it is.


Very YUMMY!!!


Nope - Panera bread is in the midwest too!  Awesome.  I've seen it in Iowa and Nebraska - even some smaller towns.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: blah on June 27, 2006, 06:43:49 PM
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Blah - I have all the aru-bay videos downloaded to my hard drive.  Well actually, they are on a disc.


klaas, can you do me a huge favor and e-mail me the 24 one (whenever you get a chnace, no big hurry)

Either that or do me a favor and watch it and compare it to the reeolution of the ones on video google to confirm i'm not nuts (or going blind)


Blah - try this one.  Debbie at BFN uploaded.  You are right, the quality of the Google ones is not the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_X1QfGcQfU


thanks klaas, i'll check it out.


these ones arent any clearer than the video google ones.

The footprints start right at the edge of the road where that plastic bag is, and walk away from the road directly to where I circled the footprints.  It is very clearly footprints in the original, the guy doing the video even zoomed in on them and followed the trail with his camera.

Why would someone have been walking through that water/mud?  Whoever was walking through there would absolutely lose their shoes if they had any on - in the original video you can tell the footprints are real deep in the mud.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Leslie on June 27, 2006, 06:46:53 PM
Darleen:  What is your itinerary?  Bon voyage.

Klaas:  Page 6 of BonDia has THAT picture ( even more graphic) again and a write up.  I think they are discussing the gender of the corpse.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 06:48:29 PM
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Blah - I have all the aru-bay videos downloaded to my hard drive.  Well actually, they are on a disc.


klaas, can you do me a huge favor and e-mail me the 24 one (whenever you get a chnace, no big hurry)

Either that or do me a favor and watch it and compare it to the reeolution of the ones on video google to confirm i'm not nuts (or going blind)


Blah - try this one.  Debbie at BFN uploaded.  You are right, the quality of the Google ones is not the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_X1QfGcQfU


thanks klaas, i'll check it out.


these ones arent any clearer than the video google ones.

The footprints start right at the edge of the road where that plastic bag is, and walk away from the road directly to where I circled the footprints.  It is very clearly footprints in the original, the guy doing the video even zoomed in on them and followed the trail with his camera.

Why would someone have been walking through that water/mud?  Whoever was walking through there would absolutely lose their shoes if they had any on - in the original video you can tell the footprints are real deep in the mud.


Here are the original ones, you can download on your own PC and see if they are any better.  The one you are looking for is smallmovie17:

http://www.aru-bay.com/images/


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 06:49:09 PM
Quote from: "Leslie"
Darleen:  What is your itinerary?  Bon voyage.

Klaas:  Page 6 of BonDia has THAT picture ( even more graphic) again and a write up.  I think they are discussing the gender of the corpse.


We heard it was a female, but I'll look at Bondia.  Haven't had a chance yet.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: blah on June 27, 2006, 06:50:06 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"


Here are the original ones, you can download on your own PC and see if they are any better.  The one you are looking for is smallmovie17:

http://www.aru-bay.com/images/


wow, great klaas, thanks.  I didnt realize they were still there.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 06:52:15 PM
Quote from: "Leslie"
Darleen:  What is your itinerary?  Bon voyage.

Klaas:  Page 6 of BonDia has THAT picture ( even more graphic) again and a write up.  I think they are discussing the gender of the corpse.


I'm not positive, but is sounds like they are now saying it was a man and that he had been dead about 3 weeks.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Leslie on June 27, 2006, 06:56:56 PM
...a mustra e vocero cu ta ser bisa cu e curpa ta din un persona femenino mientras cu di otro banda ta ser bisa
cu e ta un persono masculino...

...owing to show the vocero cu is being tell cu the curpa is din one person female while cu of another near is being tell cu the is one persono masculino...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: cubbeegirl on June 27, 2006, 06:58:25 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
TS and others .. PLEASE tell me what ROB posted about RED??
I am totally missing something?????????????
 Or EMAIL me at least.


Angie - check your email please


  I did.,. wrote back.. sorry I am cooking and running up and down the steps~!

   Mrs Red.. I had missed your post.. sorry!!



Angie.... or someone...please e-mail me... I want to know too...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 27, 2006, 06:59:16 PM
Quote from: "ldstlou"
Quote
Carpe Noctem Says:

June 27th, 2006 at 10:41 am
Whoever wants to come by and look at the 510-24 video still
pictures that I have been working on… you’re invited.

here is your link:

http://tinyurl.com/nbjee



ok...hello all! I suppose I should start with. Am I the only one freaked out by these analogies? I am trying to picture Beth or Dave seeing these description!! Is anyone thinking there is truth to this and I am overreacting or is this just beyond morbid?! I know the intentions are pure, but I don't think Natalee's body ended up here in this plastic and trying to find her here just creeps me out!!


I just can't believe that I am the only one that thinks this is just too over the top!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: kuoka on June 27, 2006, 07:01:45 PM
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
Kuoka - sokay!

Mermaid originally from Brooklyn - Mr. Mermaid says "Don't make her go Brooklyn on ya!"


LOL Again very sorry for the confusion. I spend a lot of time in NY, I knew I liked you from the beginning!  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 07:01:56 PM
Quote from: "ldstlou"
Quote from: "ldstlou"
Quote
Carpe Noctem Says:

June 27th, 2006 at 10:41 am
Whoever wants to come by and look at the 510-24 video still
pictures that I have been working on… you’re invited.

here is your link:

http://tinyurl.com/nbjee



ok...hello all! I suppose I should start with. Am I the only one freaked out by these analogies? I am trying to picture Beth or Dave seeing these description!! Is anyone thinking there is truth to this and I am overreacting or is this just beyond morbid?! I know the intentions are pure, but I don't think Natalee's body ended up here in this plastic and trying to find her here just creeps me out!!


I just can't believe that I am the only one that thinks this is just too over the top!!


I agree, over the top.  They have been sent to the FBI and the familyanyway though just in case.  Not those particular photos but the same idea.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: blah on June 27, 2006, 07:02:48 PM
Quote from: "ldstlou"
Quote from: "ldstlou"
Quote
Carpe Noctem Says:

June 27th, 2006 at 10:41 am
Whoever wants to come by and look at the 510-24 video still
pictures that I have been working on… you’re invited.

here is your link:

http://tinyurl.com/nbjee



ok...hello all! I suppose I should start with. Am I the only one freaked out by these analogies? I am trying to picture Beth or Dave seeing these description!! Is anyone thinking there is truth to this and I am overreacting or is this just beyond morbid?! I know the intentions are pure, but I don't think Natalee's body ended up here in this plastic and trying to find her here just creeps me out!!


I just can't believe that I am the only one that thinks this is just too over the top!!


no your not the only one  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: San on June 27, 2006, 07:07:02 PM
Quote from: "darleenofalabama"
Hi, Ya'll!!

I was reading in here for a bit (great story, Tyler!), and now I have to go meet my neighbor for dinner, but I wanted to say farewell for the summer to ya'll; we're leaving the end of this week.  Ya'll have a great summer (and I know that we all agree that it would be truly great if Natalee's case was solved).

Oh, and somebody tell Nonesasha that she can wear my tiara in here while I'm away this summer--unless, of course, there's anyone else who wants it more :shock:  :shock:  :lol:  :lol:  8)

Enjoy your trip Darleen.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 27, 2006, 07:09:36 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "ldstlou"
Quote from: "ldstlou"
Quote
Carpe Noctem Says:

June 27th, 2006 at 10:41 am
Whoever wants to come by and look at the 510-24 video still
pictures that I have been working on… you’re invited.

here is your link:

http://tinyurl.com/nbjee



ok...hello all! I suppose I should start with. Am I the only one freaked out by these analogies? I am trying to picture Beth or Dave seeing these description!! Is anyone thinking there is truth to this and I am overreacting or is this just beyond morbid?! I know the intentions are pure, but I don't think Natalee's body ended up here in this plastic and trying to find her here just creeps me out!!


I just can't believe that I am the only one that thinks this is just too over the top!!


I agree, over the top.  They have been sent to the FBI and the familyanyway though just in case.  Not those particular photos but the same idea.


Thank you Klaas!! I mean..I am SURE Natalee's family reads these posts..and I try and keep that in mind when I am speculating...but to me...I don't know...seeing Joran choking Natalee's neck and some of the other things I have read that people see in this plastic bag...I just CRINGE!! for the Holloways and Twitty's!! As though the worst scenario in everyone'smind is not bad enough!! So sorry if I am being negative!! I REALLY try to bring the positive to this blog...but that just really disturbs me!! Please forgive my complaints!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 27, 2006, 07:10:41 PM
Quote from: "darleenofalabama"
Hi, Ya'll!!

I was reading in here for a bit (great story, Tyler!), and now I have to go meet my neighbor for dinner, but I wanted to say farewell for the summer to ya'll; we're leaving the end of this week.  Ya'll have a great summer (and I know that we all agree that it would be truly great if Natalee's case was solved).

Oh, and somebody tell Nonesasha that she can wear my tiara in here while I'm away this summer--unless, of course, there's anyone else who wants it more :shock:  :shock:  :lol:  :lol:  8)


Boy voyage, Darleen.  Try to get by Mottisfont and Stonehenge while you are there and -- oh, well, just make it to Paris to pick up some art.  You will like.  No place like Rome this time of year.  Do enjoy and hopefully something will have occurred by the time you return.  Have a great trip and try to pick up some pearls. :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 27, 2006, 07:12:38 PM
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "ldstlou"
Quote from: "ldstlou"
Quote
Carpe Noctem Says:

June 27th, 2006 at 10:41 am
Whoever wants to come by and look at the 510-24 video still
pictures that I have been working on… you’re invited.

here is your link:

http://tinyurl.com/nbjee



ok...hello all! I suppose I should start with. Am I the only one freaked out by these analogies? I am trying to picture Beth or Dave seeing these description!! Is anyone thinking there is truth to this and I am overreacting or is this just beyond morbid?! I know the intentions are pure, but I don't think Natalee's body ended up here in this plastic and trying to find her here just creeps me out!!


I just can't believe that I am the only one that thinks this is just too over the top!!


no your not the only one  :wink:


Thanks!! I am just literally in tears thinking of Dave's book and how he explained it was so difficult reading things like this...just...can't even think of words to explain...it's just I think we have to remember the family may be reading our posts!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on June 27, 2006, 07:12:44 PM
Quote from: "ldstlou"
Quote from: "ldstlou"
Quote
Carpe Noctem Says:

June 27th, 2006 at 10:41 am
Whoever wants to come by and look at the 510-24 video still
pictures that I have been working on… you’re invited.

here is your link:

http://tinyurl.com/nbjee



ok...hello all! I suppose I should start with. Am I the only one freaked out by these analogies? I am trying to picture Beth or Dave seeing these description!! Is anyone thinking there is truth to this and I am overreacting or is this just beyond morbid?! I know the intentions are pure, but I don't think Natalee's body ended up here in this plastic and trying to find her here just creeps me out!!


I just can't believe that I am the only one that thinks this is just too over the top!!


LdStLou  who said you were the only one.
Question the content of why things are shown, examine the pics but
to over analyze a plastic tarp in a drain basin  is like getting 10 people to agree on what the heck an ink blot represents
JMO  of course[/b]


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 27, 2006, 07:14:54 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "ldstlou"
Quote from: "ldstlou"
Quote
Carpe Noctem Says:

June 27th, 2006 at 10:41 am
Whoever wants to come by and look at the 510-24 video still
pictures that I have been working on… you’re invited.

here is your link:

http://tinyurl.com/nbjee



ok...hello all! I suppose I should start with. Am I the only one freaked out by these analogies? I am trying to picture Beth or Dave seeing these description!! Is anyone thinking there is truth to this and I am overreacting or is this just beyond morbid?! I know the intentions are pure, but I don't think Natalee's body ended up here in this plastic and trying to find her here just creeps me out!!


I just can't believe that I am the only one that thinks this is just too over the top!!


LdStLou  who said you were the only one.
Question the content of why things are shown, examine the pics but
to over analyze a plastic tarp in a drain basin  is like getting 10 people to agree on what the heck an ink blot represents
JMO  of course[/b]


thanks my friend old fart...just no one addressed it and it so disturbs me!! I feel better now..a little :?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 07:16:33 PM
NANCY GRACE 8PM EASTERN


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 27, 2006, 07:20:34 PM
Forgive me if this has already been posted, I have not read all pages today. NANCY GRACE--Nat coverage tonight 8 pm CNN Headline news.
Seems she will be taking calls. Other boards are talking about calling in and giving her a hard time (if they are nice enough to her screeners on ititial contact, they just might).
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Tuesday's show

Natalee Holloway
A new witness has surfaced in Aruba in connection with the Natalee Holloway case. What he is telling authorities. Tune in at 8 p.m. ET
Nancy tells Court TV
""...Natalee Holloway died on her senior trip to Aruba over a year
ago and the Aruban government has done absolutely nothing to
solve the case. There's yet another person in custody but this
too will no doubt be another exercise in catch and release..."


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: blah on June 27, 2006, 07:21:13 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"

LdStLou  who said you were the only one.
Question the content of why things are shown, examine the pics but
to over analyze a plastic tarp in a drain basin  is like getting 10 people to agree on what the heck an ink blot represents
JMO  of course[/b]


hey oldfart, how you doing?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on June 27, 2006, 07:22:42 PM
Quote from: "ldstlou"

<<snip>>
thanks my friend old fart...just no one addressed it and it so disturbs me!! I feel better now..a little :?


I have not seen them posted here (not saying they have not been),  Just the link to them   so  I guess I did not mind that much :oops:
It's their views expressed at their site.
Hope this make since. :? .to Ya


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 27, 2006, 07:27:01 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "ldstlou"

<<snip>>
thanks my friend old fart...just no one addressed it and it so disturbs me!! I feel better now..a little :?


I have not seen them posted here (not saying they have not been),  Just the link to them   so  I guess I did not mind that much :oops:
It's their views expressed at their site.
Hope this make since. :? .to Ya


I also agree that even the pics posted here, were just ink blot discussions.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on June 27, 2006, 07:28:12 PM
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "oldfart"

LdStLou  who said you were the only one.
Question the content of why things are shown, examine the pics but
to over analyze a plastic tarp in a drain basin  is like getting 10 people to agree on what the heck an ink blot represents
JMO  of course


hey oldfart, how you doing?


Hey Blah
Fighting a summer cold :cry:   I think from Being Nked here in the cage  :shock:   and How are you?
TY for asking


Any bet's on Nancy's wintness NOT being new ??? :shock:
But hey it keeps the story alive and others may become aware of a
 witness that we still do not have "clear" details on (and prob. never will)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 27, 2006, 07:31:14 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "ldstlou"

<<snip>>
thanks my friend old fart...just no one addressed it and it so disturbs me!! I feel better now..a little :?


I have not seen them posted here (not saying they have not been),  Just the link to them   so  I guess I did not mind that much :oops:
It's their views expressed at their site.
Hope this make since. :? .to Ya


It really does old fart...it's just I guess what drew me into Natalee's case is being a mother!! And I look at it all from the perspective of being a parent...does that make sense? So I read all the posts as many do...in my quest for this angel Natalee we have all adopted into our hearts and souls, hoping beyond hope..we can find justice for her and her family since no one in friggin' (excuse the language) Aruba will...except Jossy and a few!!  But first and foremost in my mind...is the Mother part..or Parent part...and I think some get so drawn into the "mystery" of her dissapearance...they forget that this is about REAL people and a REAL family and a REAL tragedy...and that there is a mom involved, and a father and siblings, and step parents and Aunts and uncles and cousins and freinds...etc...and we just have to remember the REAL people who are reading our posts. Does that make sense?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 27, 2006, 07:33:06 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "ldstlou"

<<snip>>
thanks my friend old fart...just no one addressed it and it so disturbs me!! I feel better now..a little :?


I have not seen them posted here (not saying they have not been),  Just the link to them   so  I guess I did not mind that much :oops:
It's their views expressed at their site.
Hope this make since. :? .to Ya


oh so sorry!! not posted here..fp!! Sorry for not making that clear!! That's why I complained here and not front page...so much integrity here!! I knew you all would understand!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 07:33:12 PM
Looks like there's a missing 17yr old male in Aruba.  This was in today's' Diario as well:
http://www.diarioaruba.com/diamars/noticia/


Hoben di 17 aña tin 12 dia cu a bay for di cas  


ORANJESTAD (AAN)- For di dia 15 di Juni e hoben Emmanuel Isidro Cid Cabrera a bay for di cas y te cu awe no tin ningun pista na unda e por ta.

Emmanuel a bay for di cas Madiki Kavel 107.  Segun e mama preocupa, Sr. Orman,  Emmanuel no ta un mucha agresivo y no ta bayendo school tampoco.

E ta pidi cualquier persona cu por sa e paradero di Emmanuel pa yama na tel 9626421 of warda di polis, ya cu e ta birando desespera pa motibo cu e no tin ningun informacion unda su yiu por  ta.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 27, 2006, 07:36:26 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Looks like there's a missing 17yr old male in Aruba.  This was in today's' Diario as well:
http://www.diarioaruba.com/diamars/noticia/


Hoben di 17 aña tin 12 dia cu a bay for di cas  


ORANJESTAD (AAN)- For di dia 15 di Juni e hoben Emmanuel Isidro Cid Cabrera a bay for di cas y te cu awe no tin ningun pista na unda e por ta.

Emmanuel a bay for di cas Madiki Kavel 107.  Segun e mama preocupa, Sr. Orman,  Emmanuel no ta un mucha agresivo y no ta bayendo school tampoco.

E ta pidi cualquier persona cu por sa e paradero di Emmanuel pa yama na tel 9626421 of warda di polis, ya cu e ta birando desespera pa motibo cu e no tin ningun informacion unda su yiu por  ta.


Ooops!  Anyone know if the sporter is back from the World Cup?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: blah on June 27, 2006, 07:39:36 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "oldfart"

LdStLou  who said you were the only one.
Question the content of why things are shown, examine the pics but
to over analyze a plastic tarp in a drain basin  is like getting 10 people to agree on what the heck an ink blot represents
JMO  of course


hey oldfart, how you doing?


Hey Blah
Fighting a summer cold :cry:   I think from Being Nked here in the cage  :shock:   and How are you?
TY for asking


Any bet's on Nancy's wintness NOT being new ??? :shock:
But hey it keeps the story alive and others may become aware of a
 witness that we still do not have "clear" details on (and prob. never will)


im doing good thanks.  Maybe try a little shot of whiskey or something for that cold.

I doubt nancy has anything new, and I have a hard time watching/listening to her so I'll just keep an eye here for updates.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on June 27, 2006, 07:40:27 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Looks like there's a missing 17yr old male in Aruba.  This was in today's' Diario as well:
http://www.diarioaruba.com/diamars/noticia/
<<snip>>


Klaasend  
thanks... I sure wish Jossy would hurry up with an English version  :lol:
then we might know how he went missing.


ldStLou
are you saying some of the pics from Carpe Noctem's site were on the FP ?? or just the shot of a plastic  in the drain basin ???

JW  (just wondering)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 27, 2006, 07:41:32 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Looks like there's a missing 17yr old male in Aruba.  This was in today's' Diario as well:
http://www.diarioaruba.com/diamars/noticia/
<<snip>>


Klaasend  
thanks... I sure wish Jossy would hurry up with an English version  :lol:
then we might know how he went missing.


ldStLou
are you saying some of the pics from Carpe Noctem's site were on the FP ?? or just the shot of a plastic  in the drain basin ???

JW  (just wondering)


she has very DETAILED pics with her analogy on front page


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 07:42:00 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Looks like there's a missing 17yr old male in Aruba.  This was in today's' Diario as well:
http://www.diarioaruba.com/diamars/noticia/
<<snip>>


Klaasend  
thanks... I sure wish Jossy would hurry up with an English version  :lol:
then we might know how he went missing.


ldStLou
are you saying some of the pics from Carpe Noctem's site were on the FP ?? or just the shot of a plastic  in the drain basin ???

JW  (just wondering)


In the comment section of the FP.  That's where Carpe posts.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 27, 2006, 07:42:58 PM
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "oldfart"

LdStLou  who said you were the only one.
Question the content of why things are shown, examine the pics but
to over analyze a plastic tarp in a drain basin  is like getting 10 people to agree on what the heck an ink blot represents
JMO  of course


hey oldfart, how you doing?


Hey Blah
Fighting a summer cold :cry:   I think from Being Nked here in the cage  :shock:   and How are you?
TY for asking
by the way OLd Fart...are you scottish by any chance? My Momma's cure for ANY ill...was a good Scottish "hot toddie"!! :wink:  :D

Any bet's on Nancy's wintness NOT being new ??? :shock:
But hey it keeps the story alive and others may become aware of a
 witness that we still do not have "clear" details on (and prob. never will)


im doing good thanks.  Maybe try a little shot of whiskey or something for that cold.

I doubt nancy has anything new, and I have a hard time watching/listening to her so I'll just keep an eye here for updates.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: San on June 27, 2006, 07:43:58 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Looks like there's a missing 17yr old male in Aruba.  This was in today's' Diario as well:
http://www.diarioaruba.com/diamars/noticia/


Hoben di 17 aña tin 12 dia cu a bay for di cas  


ORANJESTAD (AAN)- For di dia 15 di Juni e hoben Emmanuel Isidro Cid Cabrera a bay for di cas y te cu awe no tin ningun pista na unda e por ta.

Emmanuel a bay for di cas Madiki Kavel 107.  Segun e mama preocupa, Sr. Orman,  Emmanuel no ta un mucha agresivo y no ta bayendo school tampoco.

E ta pidi cualquier persona cu por sa e paradero di Emmanuel pa yama na tel 9626421 of warda di polis, ya cu e ta birando desespera pa motibo cu e no tin ningun informacion unda su yiu por  ta.


Ooops!  Anyone know if the sporter is back from the World Cup?

 :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 27, 2006, 07:44:25 PM
Quote from: "ldstlou"
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "blah"
Quote from: "oldfart"

LdStLou  who said you were the only one.
Question the content of why things are shown, examine the pics but
to over analyze a plastic tarp in a drain basin  is like getting 10 people to agree on what the heck an ink blot represents
JMO  of course


hey oldfart, how you doing?


Hey Blah
Fighting a summer cold :cry:   I think from Being Nked here in the cage  :shock:   and How are you?
TY for asking
by the way OLd Fart...are you scottish by any chance? My Momma's cure for ANY ill...was a good Scottish "hot toddie"!! :wink:  :D

Any bet's on Nancy's wintness NOT being new ??? :shock:
But hey it keeps the story alive and others may become aware of a
 witness that we still do not have "clear" details on (and prob. never will)


im doing good thanks.  Maybe try a little shot of whiskey or something for that cold.

I doubt nancy has anything new, and I have a hard time watching/listening to her so I'll just keep an eye here for updates.


oops...lost my post!! I said Hey Old Fart...by any chance are you Scottish? My Momma's cure for any ill was a good Scottish "Hot Toddie"!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on June 27, 2006, 07:45:20 PM
Quote from: "blah"

<<snip>>
im doing good thanks.  Maybe try a little shot of whiskey or something for that cold.

I doubt nancy has anything new, and I have a hard time watching/listening to her so I'll just keep an eye here for updates.


Nyquill seems to help me sleep anyway.. :lol:

I always think of you when I see the auto-insurance commercial of the squirrel that makes the car run off the road and then 5 fives his buddy in the middle of the road :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: sandy leiva on June 27, 2006, 07:46:36 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Thanks Leslie - last I looked they hadn't updated yet today:

From today's DIARIO - maybe Whytegirl or someone can help translate

 ORANJESTAD (AAN): Keto bay ta keda demostra, cu e trabao di Park Rangernan di Parke Nacional Arikok ta uno valioso pa Aruba.  Nan ta patruya tur dia a lo largo di costa di Aruba, pa asina raporta cualkier cos incorecto cu nan mira.

   Dialuna mainta, esaki ta loke nan a bin topa cune den e rooi chikito banda di Dos Playa.

 Ta parce cu un stranhero a logra yega Aruba ilegalmente, y aki el a cambia su paña y a laga atras e saco y tambe su Jeans muha.

   Fuera di esey, a haya hopi cabuya geel, cu tin ningun muestra di deterioro riba dje, indicando cu e ta algo recien poni eynan.

   Park Rangernan corectamente a pone autoridad na altura di nan hayazgo.  Pues ta parce cu awor stranheronan ilegal ta drentando Aruba via costa Noordoost.

(http://www.diarioaruba.com/diamars/local/ilegales.1.jpg)
(http://www.diarioaruba.com/diamars/local/ilegales.2.jpg)

I think they are talking about illegals



in a nutshell they are talking about an illegal who made hsi way into the country of aruba left his gear and change of wet clothing in the white sac pictured.  said it is proof of more and more illegals from venezuela and or columbia coming in.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on June 27, 2006, 07:49:21 PM
Quote from: "ldstlou"

<<snip>>
oops...lost my post!! I said Hey Old Fart...by any chance are you Scottish? My Momma's cure for any ill was a good Scottish "Hot Toddie"!!


As a matter of fact I'm Scott / Irish..
but you DO NOT have to be Scottish for a Hot Toddie (Hot Tea, Honey, Lemon (?) and WHISKEY) do you.  Out of the latter but Hot tea later tonight for sure...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 07:49:47 PM
Thanks Sandy!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 27, 2006, 07:50:02 PM
Quote from: "sandy leiva"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Thanks Leslie - last I looked they hadn't updated yet today:

From today's DIARIO - maybe Whytegirl or someone can help translate

 ORANJESTAD (AAN): Keto bay ta keda demostra, cu e trabao di Park Rangernan di Parke Nacional Arikok ta uno valioso pa Aruba.  Nan ta patruya tur dia a lo largo di costa di Aruba, pa asina raporta cualkier cos incorecto cu nan mira.

   Dialuna mainta, esaki ta loke nan a bin topa cune den e rooi chikito banda di Dos Playa.

 Ta parce cu un stranhero a logra yega Aruba ilegalmente, y aki el a cambia su paña y a laga atras e saco y tambe su Jeans muha.

   Fuera di esey, a haya hopi cabuya geel, cu tin ningun muestra di deterioro riba dje, indicando cu e ta algo recien poni eynan.

   Park Rangernan corectamente a pone autoridad na altura di nan hayazgo.  Pues ta parce cu awor stranheronan ilegal ta drentando Aruba via costa Noordoost.

(http://www.diarioaruba.com/diamars/local/ilegales.1.jpg)
(http://www.diarioaruba.com/diamars/local/ilegales.2.jpg)

I think they are talking about illegals



in a nutshell they are talking about an illegal who made hsi way into the country of aruba left his gear and change of wet clothing in the white sac pictured.  said it is proof of more and more illegals from venezuela and or columbia coming in.


Does Anita have an extra cottage for some of them to remind her of her son, who has fled to another country.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 07:50:53 PM
NANCY GRACE - comming up in about 7 minutes


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: blah on June 27, 2006, 07:51:35 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "blah"

<<snip>>
im doing good thanks.  Maybe try a little shot of whiskey or something for that cold.

I doubt nancy has anything new, and I have a hard time watching/listening to her so I'll just keep an eye here for updates.


Nyquill seems to help me sleep anyway.. :lol:

I always think of you when I see the auto-insurance commercial of the squirrel that makes the car run off the road and then 5 fives his buddy in the middle of the road :shock:




 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on June 27, 2006, 07:52:37 PM
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
Forgive me if this has already been posted, I have not read all pages today. NANCY GRACE--Nat coverage tonight 8 pm CNN Headline news.
Seems she will be taking calls. Other boards are talking about calling in and giving her a hard time (if they are nice enough to her screeners on ititial contact, they just might).
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Tuesday's show

Natalee Holloway
A new witness has surfaced in Aruba in connection with the Natalee Holloway case. What he is telling authorities. Tune in at 8 p.m. ET
Nancy tells Court TV
""...Natalee Holloway died on her senior trip to Aruba over a year
ago and the Aruban government has done absolutely nothing to
solve the case. There's yet another person in custody but this
too will no doubt be another exercise in catch and release..."


I hope they do call in~ she'll blow their arses out of the water!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: sandy leiva on June 27, 2006, 07:53:04 PM
Quote from: "ldstlou"
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Looks like there's a missing 17yr old male in Aruba.  This was in today's' Diario as well:
http://www.diarioaruba.com/diamars/noticia/
<<snip>>


Klaasend  
thanks... I sure wish Jossy would hurry up with an English version  :lol:
then we might know how he went missing.


ldStLou
are you saying some of the pics from Carpe Noctem's site were on the FP ?? or just the shot of a plastic  in the drain basin ???

JW  (just wondering)


she has very DETAILED pics with her analogy on front page


article says mother of 17 yr old reported son missing has been gone for 12 days. Mother reports son was acting strange, aggresive at times and quit going to school. mother worried he may have met with foul play.  has not been sighted since. Polis no help as they are only following up extreme emegrgent cases. mother asks anyone woth info on whereabout s for help. Very worried mother per article.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 27, 2006, 07:53:30 PM
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "ldstlou"

<<snip>>
oops...lost my post!! I said Hey Old Fart...by any chance are you Scottish? My Momma's cure for any ill was a good Scottish "Hot Toddie"!!


As a matter of fact I'm Scott / Irish..
but you DO NOT have to be Scottish for a Hot Toddie (Hot Tea, Honey, Lemon (?) and WHISKEY) do you.  Out of the latter but Hot tea later tonight for sure...


I KNEW!! you were one of the "good guys" haha


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 27, 2006, 07:55:28 PM
Quote from: "justinsmama"
Quote from: "Nut44x4"
Forgive me if this has already been posted, I have not read all pages today. NANCY GRACE--Nat coverage tonight 8 pm CNN Headline news.
Seems she will be taking calls. Other boards are talking about calling in and giving her a hard time (if they are nice enough to her screeners on ititial contact, they just might).
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Tuesday's show

Natalee Holloway
A new witness has surfaced in Aruba in connection with the Natalee Holloway case. What he is telling authorities. Tune in at 8 p.m. ET
Nancy tells Court TV
""...Natalee Holloway died on her senior trip to Aruba over a year
ago and the Aruban government has done absolutely nothing to
solve the case. There's yet another person in custody but this
too will no doubt be another exercise in catch and release..."


I hope they do call in~ she'll blow their arses out of the water!


"arses"??!! Another great Scot?! Have not heard that term since my Scottish Momma passed!! :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: oldfart on June 27, 2006, 07:56:22 PM
ldStLou
TY for the FP update...


In cas anyone missed it   we have started a thread for questions for Art Wood..
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=10


See Ya Byeeeeeeeeeeeee


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: blah on June 27, 2006, 07:59:03 PM
Quote from: "sandy leiva"
Quote from: "ldstlou"
Quote from: "oldfart"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Looks like there's a missing 17yr old male in Aruba.  This was in today's' Diario as well:
http://www.diarioaruba.com/diamars/noticia/
<<snip>>


Klaasend  
thanks... I sure wish Jossy would hurry up with an English version  :lol:
then we might know how he went missing.


ldStLou
are you saying some of the pics from Carpe Noctem's site were on the FP ?? or just the shot of a plastic  in the drain basin ???

JW  (just wondering)


she has very DETAILED pics with her analogy on front page


article says mother of 17 yr old reported son missing has been gone for 12 days. Mother reports son was acting strange, aggresive at times and quit going to school. mother worried he may have met with foul play.  has not been sighted since. Polis no help as they are only following up extreme emegrgent cases. mother asks anyone woth info on whereabout s for help. Very worried mother per article.



Aruban Polis no help in a missing persons case, imagine that !!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 08:03:02 PM
NANCY GRACE - will take calls tonight

call in number 1-877-NANCY01

1-877- 626-2901


Title: Re:Nancy Grace....
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 27, 2006, 08:03:33 PM
mmmmm......I did not hear her say at the beginning of the show
"We'll be taking your calls", like she usually does when call-ins will be aired. Perhaps she got word there would be Trolls calling in, lol.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 27, 2006, 08:21:13 PM
Did she say who her guest will be?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 08:22:50 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Did she say who her guest will be?


I don't think so


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Nut44x4 on June 27, 2006, 08:30:20 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Easywriter"
Did she say who her guest will be?


I don't think so


nope


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 08:33:36 PM
I sincerely hope Nancy takes calls from some of those people who think the sporter is a delicious boy.  She will run them ragged.  I may have to watch it both times if that happens.

One thing about Nancy Grace, she has no patience for predators.  Some goofy redhead is worried that a sex offender might be "driven from their home" by GA's latest try at a law to keep creeps from living too close to schools, pools, bus stops, etc.   I don't care if you drive them off a freaking cliff like lemmings.  Tatoo something on their forehead for all I care.  Big ole "P" for predator.  Hate it for them.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Red on June 27, 2006, 08:34:07 PM
Front page post:

Aruba’s new tourist slogan: Enjoy Aruba by Firelight as long as we don’t burn it down


http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2006/06/27/arubas-new-tourist-slogan-enjoy-aruba-by-firelight-as-long-as-we-dont-burn-it-down/

Play a long and create their new slogan


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 27, 2006, 08:37:20 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Some goofy redhead is worried that a sex offender might be "driven from their home" by GA's latest try at a law to keep creeps from living too close to schools, pools, bus stops, etc.   I don't care if you drive them off a freaking cliff like lemmings.  Tatoo something on their forehead for all I care.  Big ole "P" for predator.  Hate it for them.


I love Gov. Sonny Purdue.  Great laws on sex offenders, marriage, illegals, smoking.  Joining the  Aruban boycott. Suspending gas taxes, etc.
 :D   :D   :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 27, 2006, 08:39:22 PM
Quote from: "Red"
Front page post:

Aruba’s new tourist slogan: Enjoy Aruba by Firelight as long as we don’t burn it down


http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2006/06/27/arubas-new-tourist-slogan-enjoy-aruba-by-firelight-as-long-as-we-dont-burn-it-down/

Play a long and create their new slogan


The island has to be an international joke, now that people know what is really going on there and more the reason for Chavez to think it is ripe for the picking.  A clueless people are always easy to rule with an iron fist.  Clueless Island, Venezuela's little pouch.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 27, 2006, 08:39:43 PM
Has anything been on Nancy Grace about the case yet, I just got home?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 08:42:07 PM
Quote from: "terryd270"
Has anything been on Nancy Grace about the case yet, I just got home?


Not yet, Terry.  Looks like it's coming up NOW.

Re-elect Sonny.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: San on June 27, 2006, 08:45:04 PM
Beth said there was a recovery of a cable.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 27, 2006, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"

Re-elect Sonny.


He's got my vote!  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: igsigs on June 27, 2006, 08:47:12 PM
Beth

Hard to believe new stories. New witness *probably* not real.

Recovery of cable sent to NFI.

JQK

Cable matched story. Was x-rayed, sent to NFI.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on June 27, 2006, 08:47:43 PM
Had we heard of cable before? :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 08:50:26 PM
dang!  I  cannot FIND the show ! Wahhhhhhhhhhhhh
I have CNN on.. I have DIRECT TV... channel 202..
They were talking about Andrea Yates and her droinf her kids.
(imo. menatlly ill or now. they should drown her sorry ass.. tease her for a bit so she knows what her POOR kids went through)!

 HELP?  Direct TV people??  Did I miss it?  grrr


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 27, 2006, 08:51:17 PM
"Devil in the details..."


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: wreck on June 27, 2006, 08:52:12 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
dang!  I  cannot FIND the show ! Wahhhhhhhhhhhhh
I have CNN on.. I have DIRECT TV... channel 202..
They were talking about Andrea Yates and her droinf her kids.
(imo. menatlly ill or now. they should drown her sorry ass.. tease her for a bit so she knows what her POOR kids went through)!

 HELP?  Direct TV people??  Did I miss it?  grrr


CNN HEADLINE News (not regular CNN)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: igsigs on June 27, 2006, 08:55:10 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
dang!  I  cannot FIND the show ! Wahhhhhhhhhhhhh
 HELP?  Direct TV people??  Did I miss it?  grrr

It's over now Ang. Around here Nancy's channel is labeled HN (headline news) or CNNHN. They switch it around just to confuse us.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 08:55:55 PM
Quote from: "wreck"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
dang!  I  cannot FIND the show ! Wahhhhhhhhhhhhh
I have CNN on.. I have DIRECT TV... channel 202..
They were talking about Andrea Yates and her droinf her kids.
(imo. menatlly ill or now. they should drown her sorry ass.. tease her for a bit so she knows what her POOR kids went through)!

 HELP?  Direct TV people??  Did I miss it?  grrr


CNN HEADLINE News (not regular CNN)


 Ty Wreck,., I missed it.. :(
Had wrong station on thanks to my hubby.. grrrrrrrr  lol


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: igsigs on June 27, 2006, 08:58:32 PM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
"Devil in the details..."

Yea. Consensus seems to be that Carlos knows 'too much'. I would love to know the source of this info.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 08:58:43 PM
Quote from: "igsigs"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
dang!  I  cannot FIND the show ! Wahhhhhhhhhhhhh
 HELP?  Direct TV people??  Did I miss it?  grrr

It's over now Ang. Around here Nancy's channel is labeled HN (headline news) or CNNHN. They switch it around just to confuse us.


  LOl IGS~!!!!!!!!!  Thats the truth for sure!  :(


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Leslie on June 27, 2006, 08:59:45 PM
He planted the "evidence" to collect the reward $.  JMHO


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on June 27, 2006, 09:00:04 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "igsigs"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
dang!  I  cannot FIND the show ! Wahhhhhhhhhhhhh
 HELP?  Direct TV people??  Did I miss it?  grrr

It's over now Ang. Around here Nancy's channel is labeled HN (headline news) or CNNHN. They switch it around just to confuse us.


  LOl IGS~!!!!!!!!!  Thats the truth for sure!  :(


Angie

Are ya havin' trouble with the remote 'cause you're drunk again? :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 09:01:51 PM
Well what staion I have on now.. JOhn Walsh is on now talkig about Patsy Ramseys death  :(  and Little Jon Benet
  John Ramsely lost a daughter in his first marriage to a drunk driver..
 he lost little Jon Benet.. and now his wife.
 Johhn Walsh said he does NOT thin the case will EVER be solved cause of the SHOTTY police work.
  He dont think she wil ever get justice.. :(
  I hope her mom and her are reunited now in heaven..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 27, 2006, 09:03:04 PM
I guess she (Nancy Grace) only took the one call..  I would of liked to asked if he (JQK) had a feeling when the judge would rule on the civil case going forward.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: justinsmama on June 27, 2006, 09:03:44 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "igsigs"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
dang!  I  cannot FIND the show ! Wahhhhhhhhhhhhh
 HELP?  Direct TV people??  Did I miss it?  grrr

It's over now Ang. Around here Nancy's channel is labeled HN (headline news) or CNNHN. They switch it around just to confuse us.


  LOl IGS~!!!!!!!!!  Thats the truth for sure!  :(


Angie

Are ya havin' trouble with the remote 'cause you're drunk again? :lol:


Muhahahaha!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Appeals on June 27, 2006, 09:04:59 PM
I tried to make notes from the show but it moved pretty fast so here is what I got (while madly trying redial, trying to get through the busy signal)

They played clips, brief, of Beth, Joran, Dave.

Beth said she had a hard time taking this witness seriously after everything that has gone on with witnesses for the last 9 months.  She said the witness was a tall male with a female who he thought was Natalee.  She said there had been recovery of a cable which had been sent to Holland but they have heard nothing about results from NFI.

JQK said again there had been recovery of a cable that was recovered using information the witness had given as to where the body was taken.  the cable had been X-rayed and sent to Holland.  That was a month and a half to two months ago, not heard anything back.

The family is never kept informed about anything going on.

The commentator (could not see him) said he was informed the devil is in the details and ALE thinks there is too much detail coming from this witness considering where he said he was, light, etc.

Sorry I could not provide a real transcript.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 09:05:27 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "igsigs"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
dang!  I  cannot FIND the show ! Wahhhhhhhhhhhhh
 HELP?  Direct TV people??  Did I miss it?  grrr

It's over now Ang. Around here Nancy's channel is labeled HN (headline news) or CNNHN. They switch it around just to confuse us.


  LOl IGS~!!!!!!!!!  Thats the truth for sure!  :(


Angie

Are ya havin' trouble with the remote 'cause you're drunk again? :lol:


 Gee mom.. how did yah know? I have no life. I drink.. I get drunk.. and I fall down. I dont work.. I have no life at home. I drink 24/7... LOL!
 OH  and BTW.. ROb called me tonight..  sorry to bring his name up it offends anyone.  He told me to tell you HI BT and alot of others as well.
  What happend earlier was not mentioned.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 27, 2006, 09:07:05 PM
I don't get it "Senate rejects flag desecration amendment"?  I know this is political but gosh there seems to be a lot of people that gave their lives for this flag to allowed someone that hates being an American to burn it.. I guess maybe sometimes I just don't need to read the news and hope that sanity exist somewhere..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on June 27, 2006, 09:07:31 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"

 Gee mom.. how did yah know? I have no life. I drink.. I get drunk.. and I fall down. I dont work.. I have no life at home. I drink 24/7... LOL!
 OH  and BTW.. ROb called me tonight..  sorry to bring his name up it offends anyone.  He told me to tell you HI BT and alot of others as well.
  What happend earlier was not mentioned.


The next time you talk to Robbie, please tell him I said smoochies to him and I wub him a lot. :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Appeals on June 27, 2006, 09:12:52 PM
Warning:  Off Topic Post

Angie, speaking of drinking, do you by any chance drink a lot of iced tea?

I had trouble with my throat kind of closing up, difficulty swallowing, really hoarse voice.  It turned out to be too much iced tea.  When I gave that up, the problem went away.

I also notice I get a little of that when I get really nervous or drink WAY too much coffee.

Just thinking earlier about your voice problem.

Also, TY for the link you provided me the other day that I had asked for.  Got real busy and didn't thank you before now.  Sorry bout that.

Glad your son's friends are doing better.  That halo thingy makes me sick to think about it if it is the one I assume it is...they have to drill holes in your head to put it in place?  Of course compared to paralysis, I guess a halo for a broken neck is better than that alternative.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Appeals on June 27, 2006, 09:15:42 PM
Quote from: "terryd270"
I don't get it "Senate rejects flag desecration amendment"?  I know this is political but gosh there seems to be a lot of people that gave their lives for this flag to allowed someone that hates being an American to burn it.. I guess maybe sometimes I just don't need to read the news and hope that sanity exist somewhere..


Terry, I don't get it either.  My feeling is honor that flag, say the Pledge of Allegiance the way it was written, sing the Star Spangled Banner the way it was written, and speak English when you are in this country unless you are just traveling through!

Sorry if I offended anybody, but that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Appeals on June 27, 2006, 09:17:10 PM
Guess I'm talking to myself.  Time to go figure out what's for dinner.

Nite all you monkeys.  Pray for good news with the civil suit.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 09:21:13 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"

 Gee mom.. how did yah know? I have no life. I drink.. I get drunk.. and I fall down. I dont work.. I have no life at home. I drink 24/7... LOL!
 OH  and BTW.. ROb called me tonight..  sorry to bring his name up it offends anyone.  He told me to tell you HI BT and alot of others as well.
  What happend earlier was not mentioned.


The next time you talk to Robbie, please tell him I said smoochies to him and I wub him a lot. :wink:


  Will do..   Rob is on the phone with me right now...!!!
He said to tell you to check your email.. the sock moneky one!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Anna on June 27, 2006, 09:24:47 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"

 Gee mom.. how did yah know? I have no life. I drink.. I get drunk.. and I fall down. I dont work.. I have no life at home. I drink 24/7... LOL!
 OH  and BTW.. ROb called me tonight..  sorry to bring his name up it offends anyone.  He told me to tell you HI BT and alot of others as well.
  What happened earlier was not mentioned.


The next time you talk to Robbie, please tell him I said smoochies to him and I wub him a lot. :wink:


Why are you bringing this up again?  You know Mrs Red did not appreciate it earlier so you thought doing it twice would be good??
Maybe you don't "wub" Red but could you please show a little respect?  This is HIS blog and forum and most of us saw the remarks made about him and it just seems downright rude to keep this up knowing it is offensive.  I don't understand why anybody would do such a thing.  

To my knowledge Red has not said one thing negative about Rob but the same can't be said in return and we all know it.  I think Red deserves a little better treatment than this.

But this is just in my most humble opinion and it is crystal clear some do not share that sentiment.  I was just reared to have a little respect for those paying the bills and to give them at least respect to their face.  With BFN down, no way to bring back the offensive posts, etc. so are we now going to pretend they never happened?  :evil:  I'm not.  I saw them and remember.  Others did as well.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 27, 2006, 09:27:44 PM
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"
Quote from: "BTgirl"
Quote from: "Angiex911dsptchr"

 Gee mom.. how did yah know? I have no life. I drink.. I get drunk.. and I fall down. I dont work.. I have no life at home. I drink 24/7... LOL!
 OH  and BTW.. ROb called me tonight..  sorry to bring his name up it offends anyone.  He told me to tell you HI BT and alot of others as well.
  What happend earlier was not mentioned.


The next time you talk to Robbie, please tell him I said smoochies to him and I wub him a lot. :wink:


  Will do..   Rob is on the phone with me right now...!!!
He said to tell you to check your email.. the sock moneky one!!



well isn't that nice??? tell him to read this then.....

ROB... you know damn well that you sent emails all over the place trashing Red... don't even lie and say you didn't... and I see all the little snide ass comments you make at your new home.  


ANG and BT I would have thought my earlier rant would have been a clue even though then I stupidly asked Klassend to edit it... but I should have left it up...

I don't ever tell anyone or even expect anyone to feel or think like I do... but to come on to this forum and completely dispect my husband and think that is ok just really pisses me off.... and if I behaved that way to either of your husbands you would feel the same...

YOU both just told me what you think of Red and me... thanks.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 27, 2006, 09:28:05 PM
I have a confession to make, I wrote Rob trying to be funny, at least I thought I was and he took me being serious and then I realized that maybe I'm not funny..  Well I told him that I wish he would come back, that his input is needed..  Actually the story I told him was kinda funny and I was making fun of myself..

I will give you a brief summary of the email I sent him and he wrote back telling me he felt sorry for me, I was kind of embarrassed and had to tell him I was just trying to make him feel sorry for me so he would come back..  

It went something like this..

Rob,

You need to come back to Scared Monkeys because we need you.. I don't know why you left but I know disappointment.  I myself was tricked into marriaige brieffly at age 28. It all started when I bragged to all my friends how much money I was making as a genius programmer in the booming computer industry. As it turns out I exaggerated profusely. A girl tricked me into marrying her because she was already pregnant with another guy and they both needed the cash. (The other guy was in on it).

I married her because I never thought someone else would ever marry me. It stems from a poor self-image problem. She was fat to begin with so no one noticed she was pregnant. . We lived together 2 weeks then she dumped me. 3 months later she had a kid. IT WAS NOT MINE. As we were legally married when the kid was born, all paternity tests mean squat an Im legally obligated to pay all bills & support. I NEVER EVEN SLEPT with her because the 2 weeks we lived together she said she had her period and didn’t want to DO IT. Like a jerk, I am also caught on tape very drunk on my wedding video bragging that we DID IT many times. But the fact is Im the only person in the world married, divorce, paying alimony AND child support and is still a virgin.

So please Rob you need to come back since you now know my secret..

Well he wrote back and told me he felt sorry for me and that things would get better.. I did write back to tell him I was just trying to get him back and I was trying to do it with humor.. Well I guess it didn't work.. I think he said something about getting a restraining order against me..  I'm kidding about the restraining order..  

No more jokes from me but I thought you might want to know I tried to get Rob back on Scared Monkeys..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 09:29:36 PM
Quote from: "Appeals"
Quote from: "terryd270"
I don't get it "Senate rejects flag desecration amendment"?  I know this is political but gosh there seems to be a lot of people that gave their lives for this flag to allowed someone that hates being an American to burn it.. I guess maybe sometimes I just don't need to read the news and hope that sanity exist somewhere..


Terry, I don't get it either.  My feeling is honor that flag, say the Pledge of Allegiance the way it was written, sing the Star Spangled Banner the way it was written, and speak English when you are in this country unless you are just traveling through!

Sorry if I offended anybody, but that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.


AMEN.  Must be the way we were raised.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: BTgirl on June 27, 2006, 09:39:03 PM
I've been on the phone and came back to see that there are upset people here.

Let me say that I didn't see an earlier rant by Mrs. Red about anything to do with Rob, so I'm not trying to upset anyone.

I am not taking any kind of side in any problem that is taking place. Everyone at SM is someone I consider a friend, and I also consider Rob a friend. While there are evidently people here who have problems with Rob, I don't. He is just my friend. If it really upsets people here than I won't mention him in the future. However, I do reserve the right to be friends with people I like.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 09:44:12 PM
ENOUGH - No more discussion about past members of SM.  This is about Natalee not about any of us.  This entire episode is hurting, not helping and I for one won't have it.

I have not given up and will continue to fight as long as I have a forum to do so.  

END OF DISCUSSION


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 27, 2006, 09:47:31 PM
Quote from: "BTgirl"
I've been on the phone and came back to see that there are upset people here.

Let me say that I didn't see an earlier rant by Mrs. Red about anything to do with Rob, so I'm not trying to upset anyone.

I am not taking any kind of side in any problem that is taking place. Everyone at SM is someone I consider a friend, and I also consider Rob a friend. While there are evidently people here who have problems with Rob, I don't. He is just my friend. If it really upsets people here than I won't mention him in the future. However, I do reserve the right to be friends with people I like.
[/b]

That was never a consideration... I would never tell anyone who to be friends with what happens out of the forum isn't my business, nor do I expect it to be.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 27, 2006, 09:48:09 PM
sorry Klaasend.. cross posted... :oops:  :oops:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 27, 2006, 09:48:38 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "Peaches"

Re-elect Sonny.


He's got my vote!  :D


I wish I could help you.  I used to be registered there.  You think they have purged me yet.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 09:50:32 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "Peaches"

Re-elect Sonny.


He's got my vote!  :D


I wish I could help you.  I used to be registered there.  You think they have purged me yet.


Probably not.  I've heard there are dead people still on the rolls.  And GA is probably not the only place that happens.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 27, 2006, 09:51:05 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "Peaches"

Re-elect Sonny.


He's got my vote!  :D


I wish I could help you.  I used to be registered there.  You think they have purged me yet.



me too ...I didn't change it for the longest time... I think I kept thinking if I stayed registered, then i would magically be back there...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 09:53:32 PM
Klaas, you rock.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 09:57:47 PM
Peaches, swear to God we were separated at birth.   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 09:59:11 PM
Ahem...anyone home?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 10:00:07 PM
Reminder - Oldfart started a thread for questions for Art Wood.  Art will be on the Dana Pretzer show this Sunday.

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=10


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 10:00:57 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Peaches, swear to God we were separated at birth.   :lol:


Well, I found a sister I never knew I had four years ago so I guess anything's possible!  We are on the same wave length most of the time.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 10:02:43 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Peaches, swear to God we were separated at birth.   :lol:


Well, I found a sister I never knew I had four years ago so I guess anything's possible!  We are on the same wave length most of the time.


Wow Peaches!!  How cool is that!  Did she find you?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 10:03:56 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Reminder - Oldfart started a thread for questions for Art Wood.  Art will be on the Dana Pretzer show this Sunday.

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=10


Thanks Klaas.  I posted a question for Art and we might discuss it here, too.  Jossy has said that the ALE know that Joran took Natalee to his apartment the night she disappeared. How do the ALE know this? When they searched his apartment did they find any evidence that Natalee had been there? What evidence?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 27, 2006, 10:04:14 PM
I think Rita is having coverage tonight... btw...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 10:05:31 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Peaches, swear to God we were separated at birth.   :lol:


Well, I found a sister I never knew I had four years ago so I guess anything's possible!  We are on the same wave length most of the time.


Peaches, that's really cool!  Do you like your new-found sister?  (What a dumb question.)  I mean, do you see her much and have you been able to establish a relationship, to get to know her?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 10:08:34 PM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
I think Rita is having coverage tonight... btw...


Thanks for the heads up

Rita is on now!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 10:10:23 PM
Natalee coverage coming up after break on Rita....?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 10:10:31 PM
[quote="mrs. red
I don't ever tell anyone or even expect anyone to feel or think like I do... but to come on to this forum and completely dispect my husband and think that is ok just really pisses me off.... and if I behaved that way to either of your husbands you would feel the same...

YOU both just told me what you think of Red and me... thanks.[/quote]

 Umm I have not seen one pist where BT or I disreepected you or you hubby.
  I am sorry you feel that way.  I didnt see anyone bad mouth.

 HERE IS A QUESTION I HAVE>>>>>>>>>>

 FORUM RULES?????????????
  Isnt is against the rules to badmouth a poster???


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 27, 2006, 10:10:41 PM
Ouch, I just stopped by.  Gotta go do some kitty stuff.  Will someone talk about it or transcribe it.   :cry:   Cats are unruly and demanding tonight.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: rockyroads on June 27, 2006, 10:11:00 PM
Now, Jossy says ALE knew Joran took Natalee to his apartment that night, yet Greta finds Joran credible when he says we didn't get out of the car at my house??


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: anidac on June 27, 2006, 10:12:17 PM
This may already be posted but just in case it isn't:

NANCY GRACE TRANSCRIPT FROM TONIGHT'S SHOW

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/27/ng.01.html


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 10:14:42 PM
Quote from: "anidac"
This may already be posted but just in case it isn't:

NANCY GRACE TRANSCRIPT FROM TONIGHT'S SHOW

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/27/ng.01.html



Thanks Anidac - Rita Cosby is going to have something as well..right now.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: anidac on June 27, 2006, 10:14:51 PM
Oh no not Renfro....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Angiex911dsptchr on June 27, 2006, 10:14:53 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
ENOUGH - No more discussion about past members of SM.  This is about Natalee not about any of us.  This entire episode is hurting, not helping and I for one won't have it.

I have not given up and will continue to fight as long as I have a forum to do so.  

END OF DISCUSSION


 {{I said enough}}


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: igsigs on June 27, 2006, 10:15:09 PM
Ack!!!  It's Glenda!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: San on June 27, 2006, 10:15:14 PM
When the F is Rita going to learn.  She has Julia Renfro is on now.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 27, 2006, 10:15:21 PM
TylerGal,

I am going to watch some Rita but wanted you to know I enjoyed your post and now I want to grow some roses..  You took me on a trip with you and I enjoyed it, please may I have some more lemon aid?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on June 27, 2006, 10:15:47 PM
Quote from: "anidac"
Oh no not Renfro....

oh dear God ~ I can't believe we're hearing her. yuk.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: San on June 27, 2006, 10:18:03 PM
I want to know how they can keep this witness in jail longer than a murder suspect.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 27, 2006, 10:18:27 PM
I guess I will pass on Glenda..  Its hard taking the high road with her but I know I should.. I do believe she hurt Natalee's family more than anyone else besides the ones that raped and killed their daughter..  I found her resume online and I think one of these days I will post it but for now I will just be a nice peeping squirrel..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 27, 2006, 10:19:45 PM
Quote from: "San"
I want to know how they can keep this witness in jail longer than a murder suspect.


Becuz that island is one f-ed up place!

OK, why is RITA ALSO showing Bo Dietl?  No coincidence.... I'm with whoever last night said they think Joe Taco is behind it... something weird about it... this is NOT news or even interesting.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 27, 2006, 10:20:38 PM
Quote from: "terryd270"
I guess I will pass on Glenda..  Its hard taking the high road with her but I know I should.. I do believe she hurt Natalee's family more than anyone else besides the ones that raped and killed their daughter..  I found her resume online and I think one of these days I will post it but for now I will just be a nice peeping squirrel..


Ah come on!!!!  Share  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: San on June 27, 2006, 10:22:04 PM
Bo said he believes he is very capable of raping a girl and he utilized the date rape drug.  He said we shouldn't go to Aruba.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 10:22:40 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Peaches, swear to God we were separated at birth.   :lol:


Well, I found a sister I never knew I had four years ago so I guess anything's possible!  We are on the same wave length most of the time.


Peaches, that's really cool!  Do you like your new-found sister?  (What a dumb question.)  I mean, do you see her much and have you been able to establish a relationship, to get to know her?


A couple years after my mother died, my dad told me that I had a sister. Apparently, she had a baby at 19 who was put up for adoption.  She was adopted by a nice lawyer and his wife who lived in the same town.  Keep in mind this is a SMALL town in Iowa.  I'm sure my Grandma was horrified over the whole thing. My aunt (older than my mom) knew and so did her two older daughters.  The youngest daughter is only 3 mos. older than my sister.  My dad waited until my mother was gone to spill the beans.  So armed with her name and birthday, I snooped on the Internet and eventually found someone I thought could be her.  Took me a long time and a TON of soul searching.  How do you start that conversation?  I found her, called her and just said are you....., is your birthday......, were you born in ...........Iowa.  Got all the right answers.  We spent about three hours on the phone that nite and many more since.  Next summer, my daughter and I flew to Boston and took the bus out to the Cape and she and her hubby met us.  We recognized each other immediately.  We look like sisters.  We have the same space between our two front teeth and so do our daughters.  We spent the week together.  By the end of the week, we were finishing each other's sentences and talking nonstop.  It was amazing to say the least.  The next summer, my husband was able to go with us.  It's great.  She looks like my mother did at the same age.  She's seven years older than me.  She always knew she was adopted.  I wanted to reach her if for no other reason than to let her know her medical history.  It's usually better to know what runs in the family than not.  We are both very happy with the outcome.  I hope my mother is happy too.  Last year she was in Iowa and was able to have lunch with my dad (not her bio-dad) who started the whole thing.  They had a great time.  It's a good thing all around.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 10:23:10 PM
Live and Direct with Rita Crosby

6-27-06


Columbian witness credible?

secret exposed, new arrest...been kept under wraps.

Columbian national has been behind bars since last month.

Julia: his name is carlos. from columbia, he has certain info claiming to have witnessed a possible murder. he is not specific that it is natalee but it happened the night she vanished. he heard screaming, and saw someone being dragged out to the water. claims to have seen a small young lady with a tall young man. could not identify the vehicle.  he had had a fight with his wife, and he drove up there to relax and watch the ocean. he was woken up by screaming.....

Well, he came forward several months ago, he spoke to media people, who then brought him to authorities.....pressing him that it was his responsibility to go.

You have to understand, the pros is not speaking to the press  they are making a strong dedication to the case.

it is up to the judge how long they keep him, could be up to 180 days, but i doubt that will happen.  If any of the details he brings forth is credible he will continue to be deatined, not as a suspect, but because he is an illegal alien, just like in the US you just can go and live on someone's country.

We are now getting our first moment of the civil law suit in quite dramatic fashion.  this exchange on video tape was pretty heated.

they are showing the tape now....

Holloway family waiting to hear if civil case will go forward.

Bo:  when it hit the ground, i served him without any witnesses. my opinion is, this was a very important case.  we video taped it to show that he was served properly and we had evidence of it. this is a very important case.  I am sick and tired of his lies. he knows what happened, and there is no doubt in my mind.  He was trying to hide, he came over to do interview to explain he had nothing to do with it.  maybe it was a little over the top....he looked at me with those eyes, and i asked him where he hid the body, he just looked vicious. i have no problem with that.

I belivee he is very capable of raping a girl, he is a very big man 6 ft 6...i believe he has done this before, and utilized date rape drugs that are all over the caribeean.  ale screwed up this from the beginning. if they can't keep their country in line we should not go into aruba.

all thses leads pop out. fact is joran is one of the last ones to be seen with her.  he is the one who last saw her alive. if he tells the truth, we may be able to find out how and where natalee was lost.

he was resisiting, the producer came up and gave me a shove.

I'm doing a legal process here, you can't push me....I think he landed on his backside....he had slippery shoes, and he went down.

so i stuffed the papers in his jacket, i walked him out and asked him a couple of questions...like where did you bury the body...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: San on June 27, 2006, 10:23:59 PM
Bo said I just asked him where did you bury the body Joran van der Sloot whatever his name is.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 10:25:06 PM
Thanks Jacqueline!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Rooscrew on June 27, 2006, 10:26:45 PM
Thanks Jacqueline!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 10:27:31 PM
:lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 10:29:48 PM
Beans, made some homemade Dorothy Lynch salad dressing.  Good but not the same.  

(Humming "There is no place like Nebraska)..................


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 10:33:22 PM
Hello?

Guess I shoulda saved my big story for a slower news nite.  Oh well.   It's still a great story.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 10:33:49 PM
Jacqueline, good job.  That was exactly what was said.  I did notice that Rita asked Bo if he thought Joran was capable of murdering Natalee.  Bo said,
I believe he is very capable of raping a girl, he is a very big man 6 ft 6, and he is a man...i believe he has done this before, and utilized date rape drugs that are all over the caribeean.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: San on June 27, 2006, 10:34:15 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"

A couple years after my mother died, my dad told me that I had a sister. Apparently, she had a baby at 19 who was put up for adoption.  She was adopted by a nice lawyer and his wife who lived in the same town.  Keep in mind this is a SMALL town in Iowa.  I'm sure my Grandma was horrified over the whole thing. My aunt (older than my mom) knew and so did her two older daughters.  The youngest daughter is only 3 mos. older than my sister.  My dad waited until my mother was gone to spill the beans.  So armed with her name and birthday, I snooped on the Internet and eventually found someone I thought could be her.  Took me a long time and a TON of soul searching.  How do you start that conversation?  I found her, called her and just said are you....., is your birthday......, were you born in ...........Iowa.  Got all the right answers.  We spent about three hours on the phone that nite and many more since.  Next summer, my daughter and I flew to Boston and took the bus out to the Cape and she and her hubby met us.  We recognized each other immediately.  We look like sisters.  We have the same space between our two front teeth and so do our daughters.  We spent the week together.  By the end of the week, we were finishing each other's sentences and talking nonstop.  It was amazing to say the least.  The next summer, my husband was able to go with us.  It's great.  She looks like my mother did at the same age.  She's seven years older than me.  She always knew she was adopted.  I wanted to reach her if for no other reason than to let her know her medical history.  It's usually better to know what runs in the family than not.  We are both very happy with the outcome.  I hope my mother is happy too.  Last year she was in Iowa and was able to have lunch with my dad (not her bio-dad) who started the whole thing.  They had a great time.  It's a good thing all around.

Peaches what a nice story and glad to hear you found your sister.  I think your mother would be happy you found her.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 10:35:49 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Jacqueline, good job.  That was exactly what was said.  I did notice that Rita asked Bo if he thought Joran was capable of murdering Natalee.  Bo said,
I believe he is very capable of raping a girl, he is a very big man 6 ft 6, and he is a man...i believe he has done this before, and utilized date rape drugs that are all over the caribeean.


Imagine my surprise!  I agree totally.  It's a matter of time before he does it again.  And he will.  Because he just can't help himself.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 10:36:09 PM
Peaches, it's a wonderful story.  I'm trying to catch up after running into the bedroom to watch Rita and then running back to puter.  I think it is so great that you found her.  Absolutely fate.  My mother always wanted to find her real mother and was never able to do so.  Darn Catholic orphanages even today won't release the information.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 10:38:03 PM
Oh yes.  Joran is a sexual predator, and he will reoffend.  And Aruba and the Netherlands had best protect their daughters.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Frijole on June 27, 2006, 10:38:09 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Beans, made some homemade Dorothy Lynch salad dressing.  Good but not the same.  

(Humming "There is no place like Nebraska)..................


Ah, hugs at ya!

I sent your recipe to my sis in Arizona!!  Heck... I should make it sometime. ha.  Easier to buy it.  

BTW, I spent a good 30mins. on here the other night answering questions about Runzas.  LOL


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Rooscrew on June 27, 2006, 10:38:09 PM
Peaches~
That is a great story and I'm so happy for you and your family. I've also been wanting to tell you that you have and will continue to be in thoughts and prayers and am excited with your progress so far.

Roo~


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: tcumom on June 27, 2006, 10:38:46 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Hello?

Guess I shoulda saved my big story for a slower news nite.  Oh well.   It's still a great story.

Peaches, reading about your *new* sister just gave me goosebumps.....that is such a wonderful, heartwarming story with a happy ending!  I do a lot of genealogy research for myself and friends....reading something like this is just so uplifting.  Your new sister is lucky to have you in her life!  :D  :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 10:39:11 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Peaches, it's a wonderful story.  I'm trying to catch up after running into the bedroom to watch Rita and then running back to puter.  I think it is so great that you found her.  Absolutely fate.  My mother always wanted to find her real mother and was never able to do so.  Darn Catholic orphanages even today won't release the information.


Holy moly!  Another Catholic orphanage story?  After my mother had her, she went to a Catholic orphanage for a few weeks.  Why I don't know because the doctor who I suspect arranged the whole thing is from the same small town (and we're talking really small here) as was the lawyer and his wife who adopted her.  I was lucky to find her.  My dad just couldn't keep the secret anymore.  Bless his heart.  I've always been Daddy's girl and he just knew I would want to know about her.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 27, 2006, 10:39:35 PM
OT

Eddie (Moose the JRT) from "Frasier" died at age 16.  God speed Eddie/Moose - see ya the bridge.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 10:42:02 PM
Thanks Roos, et al.   It is a great story. I was amazed it worked out the way it did.  It's funny because she also had an adopted brother and I have two brothers.  We had both always wanted a sister.  Now we have each other.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 27, 2006, 10:42:16 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Oh yes.  Joran is a sexual predator, and he will reoffend.  And Aruba and the Netherlands had best protect their daughters.


He better never come to America to go to college like he wants/wanted to.  He will not get away with anything here!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 10:44:00 PM
Yeah, my mother and her brother were adopted from the Catholic orphanage in Sandusky Ohio when she was just two years old and he was a baby.  She was never able to trace her mother.  They stymied her at every step.   She quit trying a long time ago, although she did tell me a few years ago that she would really like to know if I could find out who her mother might be.  Her mother is undoubtedly gone now, as Mom is 79.  Living in AZ, it isn't easy to try to communicate with a Catholic orphanage in Ohio, if it's still even there.  They wanted to know why she wanted to know and to see medical evidence that it was necessary to open the records, blah, blah.  She just wanted to know, pure and simple.  No medical necessity or anything.  That was all.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 10:45:36 PM
Great story Peaches.....
Thanks for sharing......


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Port Valerie on June 27, 2006, 10:46:49 PM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Yeah, my mother and her brother were adopted from the Catholic orphanage in Sandusky Ohio when she was just two years old and he was a baby.  She was never able to trace her mother.  They stymied her at every step.   She quit trying a long time ago, although she did tell me a few years ago that she would really like to know if I could find out who her mother might be.  Her mother is undoubtedly gone now, as Mom is 79.  Living in AZ, it isn't easy to try to communicate with a Catholic orphanage in Ohio, if it's still even there.  They wanted to know why she wanted to know and to see medical evidence that it was necessary to open the records, blah, blah.  She just wanted to know, pure and simple.  No medical necessity or anything.  That was all.


Not necessarily. I went to a birthday party last month for a lady who turned 80. Her mother was there, age 96.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 10:46:59 PM
AZ, I kinda lucked out in that I had a copy of her birth certificate.  And my dad knew all the details even though she was born in 1947 and he married my mother in '51.  I could not have found her without my dad's info.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Sam on June 27, 2006, 10:49:43 PM
Hi again Monkeys.

Peaches glad you had a nice outcome with your sister.


I talked to my Daughter in law earlier today and she was trying to make plans for a honeymoon gift for her sis who is being married in August. She said she had seen some good deals for Aruba. I said " Please no do not do that ,,,, You know how I feel about Aruba"

She then said "Oh is that where the girl went missing?"

I said " Yes that is where the girl, Natalee Holloway went missing"

She then said " OK , Mom I will keep looking."


If it could always be that easy. I also told her about the well to do couple from NYC and I thought it was Curacas. I hope I was right on that info.

Sam


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on June 27, 2006, 10:51:00 PM
Well, I still had a little respect for Rita, but here was her motive. :cry:
Post on the other side....
 
statinmyopinion2 Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:13 pm    
Email from Greta!

I emailed Greta during her show......she emailed me back...

I told her how..... unprofessional Bo Dietl was. How embarrassing it is to OUR legal system that a simple service was turned into nothing short of a HOLLYWOOD PRODUCTION, starring Bo Dietl as a Bully and a JERK. And from now on, I would appreciate it, if you stop and think, the next time you wish to critique another soverign countries legal system, you think of what you just witnessed on THAT tape!


This is what her response was in the email:

i wanted the public to see it, i did not want to hide it , i don't agree with the way he did it greta.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on June 27, 2006, 10:51:24 PM
I meant Greta...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 27, 2006, 10:52:09 PM
Quote
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:10 am    Post subject:    

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[quote="mrs. red
I don't ever tell anyone or even expect anyone to feel or think like I do... but to come on to this forum and completely dispect my husband and think that is ok just really pisses me off.... and if I behaved that way to either of your husbands you would feel the same...

YOU both just told me what you think of Red and me... thanks.


Umm I have not seen one pist where BT or I disreepected you or you hubby.
I am sorry you feel that way. I didnt see anyone bad mouth.

HERE IS A QUESTION I HAVE>>>>>>>>>>

FORUM RULES?????????????
Isnt is against the rules to badmouth a poster??? [/quote]

Mrs Red,
I have never had the honor of speaking to you here at SM...could never get logged on to the old forum!! (computer illiterate!! haha) and feel priviledged to have been invited to the new forum. I have e-mailed Red in the past with my thoughts and obsevations...when I was unable to post...and was absolutely AMAZED!! that he always responded...in detail back, respected my input, and replied so quickly!! Just absolutely amazing to me!! The dedication that is put into this blog and Natalee's cause is beyond belief!! I have read from afar..before I "officially" became a member..and feel like I know so many people here!! The other person that just BLOWS me away is Klaas!! Just absolutely incredible to me!! Her knowledge!! her dedication..her wit...her intelligence!! You are just a group of people that are so above and beyond the norm!! You know...the thing that brings me comfort...probably brings so many people comfort...is that in a world that often seems so indifferent...here is a group I KNOW!!! would back me 110% if I ever..God forbid..I ever ran into a similar situation as the Twitty's and Holloway's...and who would fight the fight!! to find the answers!! You and Red and Klaas and Tom are such amazing people!! And you have done the impossible!! Drawn together people from all walks of life...from all over our country..the world!! together to fight a great fight!! Justice for Natalee!!
I imagine...as in life...it is very easy to take what you have done for granted..by some of the posters... you all just make it look so simple!! It does seem easy to take it all for granted!! But I just want to let you know...the e-mail I received explaining all that you guys did to get us back online...the travel..the hassles...the headaches!! That just brought it all home to me!! I mean...it is just INCREDIBLE!!!
And so Mrs Red...just want to take a moment and say THANK YOU!! You and your husband and Klaas and Tom...you all have given up any semblence of a "normal life" so we can have this place to come together and debate and share and "fight the good fight" You all are truely ANGELS!!! fighting the cause for our angel Natalee!! I can't even put into words what I feel for you and all the Monkeys...I need Easy right now to say it for me!! But you definately!!!! DEFINATELY!!! have every right to protest any disrespect towards your husband!! And although I don't know the politics here yet..I will trust your judgement on this one!! But I also know...this is the home of the most compassionate and caring people I have ever met in my life...and it will only take an apology...for you to welcome anyone right back in!!
Thanks you all!! You just REALLY inspire me!!
Lisa


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 10:52:27 PM
Sam, that was Turks and Caicos.  It's close to Bermuda.  My sister's son and his wife honeymooned there a couple years ago and had a fabulous time.  

I'm still going to vacation here in the US.  I love South Carolina beaches.  I would love to try LA too....Lower Alabama, that is.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: igsigs on June 27, 2006, 10:53:10 PM
Well, my glass is half-full on Carlos the Colombian. Per Jossy, the only one who has talked to him, he is pointing the finger at Joran and is being taken seriously by Janssen. The media lockdown on his status is not just because he is being held as an illegal. No way. And Beth or JQK will not respond in an overly positive way to this witness with the civil case decision coming right up.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 10:54:44 PM
Quote from: "igsigs"
Well, my glass is half-full on Carlos the Colombian. Per Jossy, the only one who has talked to him, he is pointing the finger at Joran and is being taken seriously by Janssen. The media lockdown on his status is not just because he is being held as an illegal. No way. And Beth or JQK will not respond in an overly positive way to this witness with the civil case decision coming right up.


Me too, I'm not sure what to think.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Red on June 27, 2006, 10:54:55 PM
Front Page Post:

MySpace.com Strikes Agian; This Time a Man is Robbed by teens he met on-line


http://tinyurl.com/z5zau

Hey guys want to know a sure fire way to wind up in a pickle?

He says her profile showed sexy photos, and a blurb which said “just lookin’ for something fun”.

It all depends how you define "fun", I guess.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 10:55:36 PM
Quote from: "ldstlou"
Quote
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:10 am    Post subject:    

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[quote="mrs. red
I don't ever tell anyone or even expect anyone to feel or think like I do... but to come on to this forum and completely dispect my husband and think that is ok just really pisses me off.... and if I behaved that way to either of your husbands you would feel the same...

YOU both just told me what you think of Red and me... thanks.


Umm I have not seen one pist where BT or I disreepected you or you hubby.
I am sorry you feel that way. I didnt see anyone bad mouth.

HERE IS A QUESTION I HAVE>>>>>>>>>>

FORUM RULES?????????????
Isnt is against the rules to badmouth a poster???


Mrs Red,
I have never had the honor of speaking to you here at SM...could never get logged on to the old forum!! (computer illiterate!! haha) and feel priviledged to have been invited to the new forum. I have e-mailed Red in the past with my thoughts and obsevations...when I was unable to post...and was absolutely AMAZED!! that he always responded...in detail back, respected my input, and replied so quickly!! Just absolutely amazing to me!! The dedication that is put into this blog and Natalee's cause is beyond belief!! I have read from afar..before I "officially" became a member..and feel like I know so many people here!! The other person that just BLOWS me away is Klaas!! Just absolutely incredible to me!! Her knowledge!! her dedication..her wit...her intelligence!! You are just a group of people that are so above and beyond the norm!! You know...the thing that brings me comfort...probably brings so many people comfort...is that in a world that often seems so indifferent...here is a group I KNOW!!! would back me 110% if I ever..God forbid..I ever ran into a similar situation as the Twitty's and Holloway's...and who would fight the fight!! to find the answers!! You and Red and Klaas and Tom are such amazing people!! And you have done the impossible!! Drawn together people from all walks of life...from all over our country..the world!! together to fight a great fight!! Justice for Natalee!!
I imagine...as in life...it is very easy to take what you have done for granted..by some of the posters... you all just make it look so simple!! It does seem easy to take it all for granted!! But I just want to let you know...the e-mail I received explaining all that you guys did to get us back online...the travel..the hassles...the headaches!! That just brought it all home to me!! I mean...it is just INCREDIBLE!!!
And so Mrs Red...just want to take a moment and say THANK YOU!! You and your husband and Klaas and Tom...you all have given up any semblence of a "normal life" so we can have this place to come together and debate and share and "fight the good fight" You all are truely ANGELS!!! fighting the cause for our angel Natalee!! I can't even put into words what I feel for you and all the Monkeys...I need Easy right now to say it for me!! But you definately!!!! DEFINATELY!!! have every right to protest any disrespect towards your husband!! And although I don't know the politics here yet..I will trust your judgement on this one!! But I also know...this is the home of the most compassionate and caring people I have ever met in my life...and it will only take an apology...for you to welcome anyone right back in!!
Thanks you all!! You just REALLY inspire me!!
Lisa[/quote]

POST OF THE DAY!!!!    

You summed it up very well for us all.  Good job.  Glad you're here.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on June 27, 2006, 10:57:04 PM
Great post LD!  You hit the nail on the head!  I believe people do take this forum for granted.  Hence, my sig. line!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 27, 2006, 10:58:21 PM
Good nite, Monkeys.  Smoochies to all.  And of course, prayers for Natalee and all concerned.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Port Valerie on June 27, 2006, 10:58:51 PM
What Lisa said. Plus, thanks, Red, for the advice to "clean up your cookies."

(Fortunately, I knew what you were talking about. The first time I bought a car and took it in for a tune up, they told me it needed new shoes and brake pads.  :shock: Shoes indeed.  :shock: I called my dad and told him the dealer was trying to con me because I was a young girl. No doubt there are some people who would not take kindly to being told to "clean up your cookies.") :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 27, 2006, 10:58:55 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "ldstlou"
Quote
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:10 am    Post subject:    

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[quote="mrs. red
I don't ever tell anyone or even expect anyone to feel or think like I do... but to come on to this forum and completely dispect my husband and think that is ok just really pisses me off.... and if I behaved that way to either of your husbands you would feel the same...

YOU both just told me what you think of Red and me... thanks.


Umm I have not seen one pist where BT or I disreepected you or you hubby.
I am sorry you feel that way. I didnt see anyone bad mouth.

HERE IS A QUESTION I HAVE>>>>>>>>>>

FORUM RULES?????????????
Isnt is against the rules to badmouth a poster???


Mrs Red,
I have never had the honor of speaking to you here at SM...could never get logged on to the old forum!! (computer illiterate!! haha) and feel priviledged to have been invited to the new forum. I have e-mailed Red in the past with my thoughts and obsevations...when I was unable to post...and was absolutely AMAZED!! that he always responded...in detail back, respected my input, and replied so quickly!! Just absolutely amazing to me!! The dedication that is put into this blog and Natalee's cause is beyond belief!! I have read from afar..before I "officially" became a member..and feel like I know so many people here!! The other person that just BLOWS me away is Klaas!! Just absolutely incredible to me!! Her knowledge!! her dedication..her wit...her intelligence!! You are just a group of people that are so above and beyond the norm!! You know...the thing that brings me comfort...probably brings so many people comfort...is that in a world that often seems so indifferent...here is a group I KNOW!!! would back me 110% if I ever..God forbid..I ever ran into a similar situation as the Twitty's and Holloway's...and who would fight the fight!! to find the answers!! You and Red and Klaas and Tom are such amazing people!! And you have done the impossible!! Drawn together people from all walks of life...from all over our country..the world!! together to fight a great fight!! Justice for Natalee!!
I imagine...as in life...it is very easy to take what you have done for granted..by some of the posters... you all just make it look so simple!! It does seem easy to take it all for granted!! But I just want to let you know...the e-mail I received explaining all that you guys did to get us back online...the travel..the hassles...the headaches!! That just brought it all home to me!! I mean...it is just INCREDIBLE!!!
And so Mrs Red...just want to take a moment and say THANK YOU!! You and your husband and Klaas and Tom...you all have given up any semblence of a "normal life" so we can have this place to come together and debate and share and "fight the good fight" You all are truely ANGELS!!! fighting the cause for our angel Natalee!! I can't even put into words what I feel for you and all the Monkeys...I need Easy right now to say it for me!! But you definately!!!! DEFINATELY!!! have every right to protest any disrespect towards your husband!! And although I don't know the politics here yet..I will trust your judgement on this one!! But I also know...this is the home of the most compassionate and caring people I have ever met in my life...and it will only take an apology...for you to welcome anyone right back in!!
Thanks you all!! You just REALLY inspire me!!
Lisa


POST OF THE DAY!!!!    

You summed it up very well for us all.  Good job.  Glad you're here.[/quote]

I know it sounds corny...but it TRUELY is an honor!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Red on June 27, 2006, 10:59:37 PM
Quote from: "igsigs"
Well, my glass is half-full on Carlos the Colombian. Per Jossy, the only one who has talked to him, he is pointing the finger at Joran and is being taken seriously by Janssen. The media lockdown on his status is not just because he is being held as an illegal. No way. And Beth or JQK will not respond in an overly positive way to this witness with the civil case decision coming right up.


Will probably be doing a FP post on this tomorrow, but a couple things strike me about this witness.

1) Karen Janssen has told Beth thru JQK that she though the witness was credible.

2) There is no way they would be holding this guy in jail if it was just about an illegal immigration thing. He would have been deported.

3) This witness claimed there was a cable in the water that was used that night and there was in fact one there. So either he actually saw this occur or he put the cable there. What are the odds?

I have spoke with Beth recently and she looks at this with guarded optimism.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: wreck on June 27, 2006, 10:59:41 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "igsigs"
Well, my glass is half-full on Carlos the Colombian. Per Jossy, the only one who has talked to him, he is pointing the finger at Joran and is being taken seriously by Janssen. The media lockdown on his status is not just because he is being held as an illegal. No way. And Beth or JQK will not respond in an overly positive way to this witness with the civil case decision coming right up.


Me too, I'm not sure what to think.

Until we get a completely new regime in Aruba or The Netherlands completely takes control of the matter -- I'm afraid we will see absolutely NOTHING done to get to the bottom of this. There are simply too many "elite" people in charge with something to hide.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 27, 2006, 11:00:06 PM
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Great post LD!  You hit the nail on the head!  I believe people do take this forum for granted.  Hence, my sig. line!


Hello my Ohio buddy!! :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 11:01:47 PM
Quote from: "Red"
Quote from: "igsigs"
Well, my glass is half-full on Carlos the Colombian. Per Jossy, the only one who has talked to him, he is pointing the finger at Joran and is being taken seriously by Janssen. The media lockdown on his status is not just because he is being held as an illegal. No way. And Beth or JQK will not respond in an overly positive way to this witness with the civil case decision coming right up.


Will probably be doing a FP post on this tomorrow, but a couple things strike me about this witness.

1) Karen Janssen has told Beth thru JQK that she though the witness was credible.

2) There is no way they would be holding this guy in jail if it was just about an illegal immigration thing. He would have been deported.

3) This witness claimed there was a cable in the water that was used that night and there was in fact one there. So either he actually saw this occur or he put the cable there. What are the odds?

I have spoke with Beth recently and she looks at this with guarded optimism.


I agree on all points Red, but # 2 really says it all~  It would have been hasta la vista baby if that was all it was about.....Julia made a point to say....Just like you would not want illegal aliens moving to your Country.

This woman is a whack a doo....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on June 27, 2006, 11:02:00 PM
Quote from: "Red"
Quote from: "igsigs"
Well, my glass is half-full on Carlos the Colombian. Per Jossy, the only one who has talked to him, he is pointing the finger at Joran and is being taken seriously by Janssen. The media lockdown on his status is not just because he is being held as an illegal. No way. And Beth or JQK will not respond in an overly positive way to this witness with the civil case decision coming right up.


Will probably be doing a FP post on this tomorrow, but a couple things strike me about this witness.

1) Karen Janssen has told Beth thru JQK that she though the witness was credible.

2) There is no way they would be holding this guy in jail if it was just about an illegal immigration thing. He would have been deported.

3) This witness claimed there was a cable in the water that was used that night and there was in fact one there. So either he actually saw this occur or he put the cable there. What are the odds?

I have spoke with Beth recently and she looks at this with guarded optimism.


Thanks Red for the update and some possible optimism.....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on June 27, 2006, 11:03:33 PM
Quote from: "ldstlou"
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Great post LD!  You hit the nail on the head!  I believe people do take this forum for granted.  Hence, my sig. line!


Hello my Ohio buddy!! :D


Hey girl!  Miss the reminiscent emails.  Need to do some more catchin' up!  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 11:04:19 PM
Quote from: "Port Valerie"
What Lisa said. Plus, thanks, Red, for the advice to "clean up your cookies."

(Fortunately, I knew what you were talking about. The first time I bought a car and took it in for a tune up, they told me it needed new shoes and brake pads.  :shock: Shoes indeed.  :shock: I called my dad and told him the dealer was trying to con me because I was a young girl. No doubt there are some people who would not take kindly to being told to "clean up your cookies.") :lol:


 :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 27, 2006, 11:05:42 PM
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Quote from: "ldstlou"
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Great post LD!  You hit the nail on the head!  I believe people do take this forum for granted.  Hence, my sig. line!


Hello my Ohio buddy!! :D


Hey girl!  Miss the reminiscent emails.  Need to do some more catchin' up!  :lol:

stil painting the old rehab!!! haha soon I will be wealthy and come for a visit and we'll go out to "Charlie Bear's'  ok..no longer there!! haha we'll hit the latest craze!! Us 2 old bags!! :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Sam on June 27, 2006, 11:06:26 PM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Sam, that was Turks and Caicos.  It's close to Bermuda.  My sister's son and his wife honeymooned there a couple years ago and had a fabulous time.  

I'm still going to vacation here in the US.  I love South Carolina beaches.  I would love to try LA too....Lower Alabama, that is.


Thank you Peaches for correcting me. I did suggest the USA but she said she was trying to think about it being hurricane season and did not want that to disrupt a honeymoon. She also said that is one of the reasons Aruba had appealed to her because of there lack of hurricanes.

I do know it will not be Aruba now that I have voiced my opinion. She really is a wonderful Daughter in law.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Tylergal on June 27, 2006, 11:07:57 PM
Thanx a gazillion, Jacqui, for the transcript.

Thanks to all the monkeys.  If you catch my friend Spooky or CBB tonight, please tell them I am about to check into bed with a load of Lomotil and some  Dramamine, and I will check in later.

This is probably not a canteloupe problem, probably some little old stomach virus that is making me feel like I have been kicked in the gut.  I will feel better tomorrow after some Lomotil and Dramamine.  CYA Later and goodnight.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 11:09:09 PM
Red, I'm glad you're doing a FP post on this witness.  This might be the break--that Janssen finds him credible and Beth is guardedly optimistic.  I'm hopeful.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: igsigs on June 27, 2006, 11:10:01 PM
Quote from: "wreck"

Until we get a completely new regime in Aruba or The Netherlands completely takes control of the matter -- I'm afraid we will see absolutely NOTHING done to get to the bottom of this. There are simply too many "elite" people in charge with something to hide.

My singular hope here resides in Janssen not being complicit in a cover-up. She is in charge...she can move things forward. If she can somehow get J2K to trial, under oath...anything can happen.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 11:10:03 PM
Quote from: "Tylergal"
Thanx a gazillion, Jacqui, for the transcript.

Thanks to all the monkeys.  If you catch my friend Spooky or CBB tonight, please tell them I am about to check into bed with a load of Lomotil and some  Dramamine, and I will check in later.

This is probably not a canteloupe problem, probably some little old stomach virus that is making me feel like I have been kicked in the gut.  I will feel better tomorrow after some Lomotil and Dramamine.  CYA Later and goodnight.


Night Tyler.  Feel better soon.  I'm ready to hit the hay tonight early, too.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 11:12:25 PM
Quote from: "igsigs"
Quote from: "wreck"

Until we get a completely new regime in Aruba or The Netherlands completely takes control of the matter -- I'm afraid we will see absolutely NOTHING done to get to the bottom of this. There are simply too many "elite" people in charge with something to hide.

My singular hope here resides in Janssen not being complicit in a cover-up. She is in charge...she can move things forward. If she can somehow get J2K to trial, under oath...anything can happen.


Igsigs, you're right.  Janssen is the sole hope of justice for Natalee on Aruba.  JQK has my utmost respect and he has worked very hard to keep the communication lines and a professional relationship with her.  I think she is under enormous pressure and the smartest thing she can do now is keep her mouth shut and continue her investigation.  The silence gives me hope.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on June 27, 2006, 11:13:26 PM
Quote from: "ldstlou"
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Quote from: "ldstlou"
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Great post LD!  You hit the nail on the head!  I believe people do take this forum for granted.  Hence, my sig. line!


Hello my Ohio buddy!! :D


Hey girl!  Miss the reminiscent emails.  Need to do some more catchin' up!  :lol:

stil painting the old rehab!!! haha soon I will be wealthy and come for a visit and we'll go out to "Charlie Bear's'  ok..no longer there!! haha we'll hit the latest craze!! Us 2 old bags!! :lol:


Sounds like a plan! I'm there!  You better let me know the next time you visit!

Just ignore us everybody,  we are O/T...  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on June 27, 2006, 11:14:14 PM
Did anybody see my post a few pages back about the post I found regarding email from Greta to poster on the other side?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 11:16:51 PM
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Did anybody see my post a few pages back about the post I found regarding email from Greta to poster on the other side?


Yes.  Actually I had read it this morning.  Greta made it clear on the air that she didn't approve of Bo's tacticts.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: igsigs on June 27, 2006, 11:16:58 PM
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Did anybody see my post a few pages back about the post I found regarding email from Greta to poster on the other side?

I saw it Dihannah. Greta plays both sides pretty well. As long as she covers the case all is good.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on June 27, 2006, 11:18:17 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Did anybody see my post a few pages back about the post I found regarding email from Greta to poster on the other side?


Yes.  Actually I had read it this morning.  Greta made it clear on the air that she didn't approve of Bo's tacticts.


I did hear her saying something about how he kept following him, but the way she replied, she said she wanted to show how he acted..  I thought that was pretty lame, as if she was setting him up for all to see.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 27, 2006, 11:18:36 PM
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Quote from: "ldstlou"
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Quote from: "ldstlou"
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Great post LD!  You hit the nail on the head!  I believe people do take this forum for granted.  Hence, my sig. line!


Hello my Ohio buddy!! :D


Hey girl!  Miss the reminiscent emails.  Need to do some more catchin' up!  :lol:

stil painting the old rehab!!! haha soon I will be wealthy and come for a visit and we'll go out to "Charlie Bear's'  ok..no longer there!! haha we'll hit the latest craze!! Us 2 old bags!! :lol:


Sounds like a plan! I'm there!  You better let me know the next time you visit!

Just ignore us everybody,  we are O/T...  :lol:


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on June 27, 2006, 11:20:09 PM
Well my friends, it's time for bed.  Have a wonderful evening and sweet dreams to all!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 27, 2006, 11:20:26 PM
Quote from: "igsigs"
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Did anybody see my post a few pages back about the post I found regarding email from Greta to poster on the other side?

I saw it Dihannah. Greta plays both sides pretty well. As long as she covers the case all is good.


hey Sweetie, went WAY over my head...explain it again if you ahve the time!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Sam on June 27, 2006, 11:21:04 PM
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Did anybody see my post a few pages back about the post I found regarding email from Greta to poster on the other side?


Yes Dihannah I saw your post.
We all knew Greta was up to something with that since she became a Joran defender.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 27, 2006, 11:21:56 PM
Question -

I may have missed it if this has been discussed here.  I read on another blog that "Hairy Toe" has written his last editorial on NH.  Can anyone confirm or refute this? Thanks.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 11:22:56 PM
If Greta or Tapioca thought by showing Bo's video would make me lose respect for him , well it had the opposite effect on me.

They are acting like he went after Joran with a gun or something.

All he did was ask the questions we all want answered and showed some spirit and made it known that this kid is full of bs, and he wishes everyone would stop pussy footing around with this case.

Rough tactics?  Behavior unbecoming to the legal process!

Puleeze......... :roll:

I grew up in Jersey!  LOL

On that note, I'm tired.

keep the faith monkeys.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Sam on June 27, 2006, 11:23:03 PM
I meant to say Good Night Monkeys in my last post.
So good night Monkeys.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on June 27, 2006, 11:23:35 PM
LD, If you go back a couple pages, I posted a post from another site of an email somebody sent to Greta and her reply.   I don't know if you watched the show when she interviewed Bo Dietl, but her response to the poster was a low blow.  She used to be so close to Beth.  Email me if you have any questions, I can catch you up if you missed anything.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on June 27, 2006, 11:25:55 PM
Quote from: "Sam"
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
Did anybody see my post a few pages back about the post I found regarding email from Greta to poster on the other side?


Yes Dihannah I saw your post.
We all knew Greta was up to something with that since she became a Joran defender.


I am probably the last hold out on Greta.  I've always thought she was 'trying' to be fair.  I've always been gullible, as you may have seen in past posts.  But I'm really disappointed after reading her response.....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 11:26:38 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Question -

I may have missed it if this has been discussed here.  I read on another blog that "Hairy Toe" has written his last editorial on NH.  Can anyone confirm or refute this? Thanks.


He's said that several times now.  Who cares?  :P


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Dihannah1 on June 27, 2006, 11:27:00 PM
Ok, really going to bed now. Sweet dreams!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 27, 2006, 11:29:41 PM
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
LD, If you go back a couple pages, I posted a post from another site of an email somebody sent to Greta and her reply.   I don't know if you watched the show when she interviewed Bo Dietl, but her response to the poster was a low blow.  She used to be so close to Beth.  Email me if you have any questions, I can catch you up if you missed anything.


I know she "fell for" Joran!! after the interview.
If a friggin' lawyer like Greta falls for his BS....what chance did Natalee have!!!?? That's what REALLY struck me most in her "turn about"!! I'll e-mail you tomorrow so you can give me the details!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 27, 2006, 11:31:08 PM
Quote from: "ldstlou"
Quote from: "Dihannah1"
LD, If you go back a couple pages, I posted a post from another site of an email somebody sent to Greta and her reply.   I don't know if you watched the show when she interviewed Bo Dietl, but her response to the poster was a low blow.  She used to be so close to Beth.  Email me if you have any questions, I can catch you up if you missed anything.


I know she "fell for" Joran!! after the interview.
If a friggin' lawyer like Greta falls for his BS....what chance did Natalee have!!!?? That's what REALLY struck me most in her "turn about"!! I'll e-mail you tomorrow so you can give me the details!!


She's also a friggin Scientologist........ :roll:

That speaks volumes to me...

ok, really out now.

Nighty night!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 27, 2006, 11:31:29 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"


Rough tactics?  Behavior unbecoming to the legal process!

Puleeze......... :roll:


I agree.  I wonder if Greta is trying to influence the judges opinion.  I believe that most judges/justices are aware of all the BS that many process servers have to go through to get the papers served.  I also think the Bo got caught up in the emotion of the moment especially after looking into windows of Joran's dark soul.  I think Joran really wanted to deck Bo, but Mama Slooty had contacted Joran while he was detained in customs and warned him about any physical contact or outbursts.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: igsigs on June 27, 2006, 11:32:48 PM
FYI

Roger has shut down SCRUX.

I wonder if MedleyRelay really did write the Paulus letter?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 27, 2006, 11:33:52 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Question -

I may have missed it if this has been discussed here.  I read on another blog that "Hairy Toe" has written his last editorial on NH.  Can anyone confirm or refute this? Thanks.


He's said that several times now.  Who cares?  :P


LOL.  Thanks Klaas.  I wonder where the dark side is going to get their daily opinion now.   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 11:34:06 PM
Quote from: "igsigs"
FYI

Roger has shut down SCRUX.

I wonder if MedleyRelay really did write the Paulus letter?


It's been going down alot lately.  Did he actually announce it was shutting down or is it just down?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 27, 2006, 11:34:24 PM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"


Rough tactics?  Behavior unbecoming to the legal process!

Puleeze......... :roll:


I agree.  I wonder if Greta is trying to influence the judges opinion.  I believe that most judges/justices are aware of all the BS that many process servers have to go through to get the papers served.  I also think the Bo got caught up in the emotion of the moment especially after looking into windows of Joran's dark soul.  I think Joran really wanted to deck Bo, but Mama Slooty had contacted Joran while he was detained in customs and warned him about any physical contact or outbursts.


as usual...I think I missed something here!! What interview are we discussing? Rememebr now...my speakers are stil out..can someone explain?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: igsigs on June 27, 2006, 11:35:52 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "igsigs"
FYI

Roger has shut down SCRUX.

I wonder if MedleyRelay really did write the Paulus letter?


It's been going down alot lately.  Did he actually announce it was shutting down or is it just down?

He announced. He posted a message.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 11:36:44 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "igsigs"
FYI

Roger has shut down SCRUX.

I wonder if MedleyRelay really did write the Paulus letter?


It's been going down alot lately.  Did he actually announce it was shutting down or is it just down?


Nevermind, I just read his post at FOB


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Anna on June 27, 2006, 11:38:16 PM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
If Greta or Tapioca thought by showing Bo's video would make me lose respect for him , well it had the opposite effect on me.

They are acting like he went after Joran with a gun or something.

All he did was ask the questions we all want answered and showed some spirit and made it known that this kid is full of bs, and he wishes everyone would stop pussy footing around with this case.

Rough tactics?  Behavior unbecoming to the legal process!

Puleeze......... :roll:

I grew up in Jersey!  LOL


Personally, I loved the way Bo was rough with Joran.  Didn't offend me at all.  Perhaps if someone had done this kind of a smack down on that punk years ago, we might not be here now.

JMO.


On that note, I'm tired.

keep the faith monkeys.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Anna on June 27, 2006, 11:39:23 PM
Quote from: "igsigs"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "igsigs"
FYI

Roger has shut down SCRUX.

I wonder if MedleyRelay really did write the Paulus letter?


It's been going down alot lately.  Did he actually announce it was shutting down or is it just down?

He announced. He posted a message.



Can you share or should I go there to read it?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 27, 2006, 11:40:31 PM
Quote from: "ldstlou"
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "Jacqueline"


Rough tactics?  Behavior unbecoming to the legal process!

Puleeze......... :roll:


I agree.  I wonder if Greta is trying to influence the judges opinion.  I believe that most judges/justices are aware of all the BS that many process servers have to go through to get the papers served.  I also think the Bo got caught up in the emotion of the moment especially after looking into windows of Joran's dark soul.  I think Joran really wanted to deck Bo, but Mama Slooty had contacted Joran while he was detained in customs and warned him about any physical contact or outbursts.


as usual...I think I missed something here!! What interview are we discussing? Rememebr now...my speakers are stil out..can someone explain?


Greta's show last night.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: igsigs on June 27, 2006, 11:42:21 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "igsigs"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "igsigs"
FYI

Roger has shut down SCRUX.

I wonder if MedleyRelay really did write the Paulus letter?


It's been going down alot lately.  Did he actually announce it was shutting down or is it just down?

He announced. He posted a message.



Can you share or should I go there to read it?

Nothing really. No news...blah, blah, blah. About a 1000 words though, you know Roger. :P


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 11:45:12 PM
Quote from: "Anna"
Quote from: "igsigs"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "igsigs"
FYI

Roger has shut down SCRUX.

I wonder if MedleyRelay really did write the Paulus letter?


It's been going down alot lately.  Did he actually announce it was shutting down or is it just down?

He announced. He posted a message.



Can you share or should I go there to read it?


Roger wrote:

The Scrux board is closing for new posts

I am going to totally close the Scrux bulletin board to new posts and refer everyone who wishes post about the case to Refugees and Freedom of Blog . The Scrux board has evolved from its original objectives and content and for a while it really hasn't served the purpose it once fulfilled. Perhaps the subject has been talked unto its end, but there may be more to say, so those sites will provide that vehicle. The other boards are very free wheeling and will provide great outlets for any expressions about the case.

We will continuously leave the board available for searching and copying of any posts and all of our resources will be accessible for anyone to download and use however they wish.

In addition to the other concerns which I mentioned, my time has become increasingly occupied with other projects and I can't contribute the way I would want to. Further, I just don't have the time to monitor the board the way I once did.

So here is the close down plan:

The bulletin board will be left up (as well as the other Scrux.com pages) so that people can access and read all previous posts and anyone will be able to search the archives. There just won't be any new posts allowed.

About your private messages:
The board won't actually be closed for posting for 24 to 36 hours from now to give people time to access their private message boxes and copy out anything they wish to save. Once the board is truly closed for posting, although everyone will still be able to read old posts, they won't be able to read any of their old private messages, because no one will be able to sign in. I will add one final post to this topic about ten minutes before closing the board for posting so you will know that the shut down is imminent.

For me, Scrux has been a satisfying experience, but only because, in some way, I think the Scrux site may have helped in this very strange tragedy. I have appreciated the dialog we have had here. This is such a very sad story, a pathetic mystery and a seemingly unending episode, involving the families of Natalee Holloway, as well as the families of Joran and the Kalpoe brothers. For all of those people there seems to be no resolve in sight. I wish for all of them the peace they so desperately seek and need.

In the future, if there is anything further that I think needs saying, I will write it as an essay and put it on the Scrux "Evidence Line" pages. Then, I will make a posting on Refugees or Freedom of Blog to describe the addition.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 11:45:30 PM
No news...HA!  Wonder if he means there is nothing left to spin into a fantastical creation and pretend it might really have happened.  I keep coming back to the truth--the three perps were the last ones seen with her.  It's a bit hard to spin that into something it isn't.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 27, 2006, 11:45:50 PM
I find it odd that Roger shuts down around the same time that Arubatruth shuts down  :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 11:49:17 PM
Klaas, gotcha.  Lots of sites going down and the timing is remarkable.  Are they cutting and running?  Saving face and money?  Hmm...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: AZLady on June 27, 2006, 11:51:14 PM
Do you just get the feeling that the truth is being peeled back, layer by layer?  The spin and suppositions, the wild theories and crazy explanations are lying by the wayside, abandoned in the face of the truth.  Time and patience and perseverance tell a story of their own.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Anna on June 27, 2006, 11:57:22 PM
.
Just about the time Aruba runs out of money for all that cop overtime, too.   :D We may yet see even others posting with less vim and vigor.  

Now would be a wonderful time for Paulus to receive his big chunk of
taxpayer funds, too.  I wonder how well that would play in Aruba.  They must truly be running low on funds.  

Guess they should have thought about all this when making Beth apologize and telling Dave to watch his drink at C&C.  I also wonder if it was worth it to them.  Their choice.   :wink:


Igsigs.
I'm telling ya, the Postal Inspectors ROCK!!  Very interesting group of LE.  They NEVER give up, either.  If I had anything to hide, they are not an organization I would want looking into it or on my trail.  Whomever wrote that letter should be shaking in their boots cause like robbing an armored car, the penalties can seem very harsh compared to those for other offenses.  Just the way federal crimes are.   :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: igsigs on June 27, 2006, 11:57:33 PM
Quote from: "klaasend"
I find it odd that Roger shuts down around the same time that Arubatruth shuts down  :wink:

You are quick Klaas!
What's left? BFN is going strong. RWV is an echo chamber. FOB has about 20 posters and bans people before they even post. The garbage barge is slowly figuring out what Glenda one-note's motives truley are...

We are lucky to have SM. Started as the best and will end as the best.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 12:01:08 AM
.
That Roger always was long-winded!  The truth usually does come out eventually but this time with these parents hurting, I hope it is sooner rather than later.


Goodnight, all!

.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 28, 2006, 12:02:20 AM
Quote from: "AZLady"
Lots of sites going down and the timing is remarkable.  Are they cutting and running?  Saving face and money?  Hmm...


I find it remarkable and scary at the same time.  Just think of all the information, threads, etc that have been lost in the last few months, here included. What's happening?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 12:05:45 AM
A front page poster by the name of Grande sent me this comparison photo of Paulus and the Casino guy.  It's a comparison of the watches:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/PaulWatchProfile.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Whodunit? on June 28, 2006, 12:08:04 AM
Can anyone access blogsfornatalee.com?  I can't!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 12:08:26 AM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "AZLady"
Lots of sites going down and the timing is remarkable.  Are they cutting and running?  Saving face and money?  Hmm...


I find it remarkable and scary at the same time.  Just think of all the information, threads, etc that have been lost in the last few months, here included. What's happening?

Ours aren't lost forever, we can get them back.  It just might cost some money to do it though.  But they are retrievable.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: igsigs on June 28, 2006, 12:09:33 AM
Cool. Skeletor Paulus!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 28, 2006, 12:09:36 AM
Quote from: klaasend
A front page poster by the name of Grande sent me this comparison photo of Paulus and the Casino guy.  It's a comparison of the watches:

The blue areas of closeups are so blurry I can't make anything out.  I thought the guy in the casino had his watch on the left hand too.  :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 12:09:37 AM
Quote from: "Whodunit?"
Can anyone access blogsfornatalee.com?  I can't!


BFN exceeded it's bandwidth about a week ago.  They have been posting at their backup site:

http://www.prayfornatalee.com/forum/


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Kat_Gram on June 28, 2006, 12:10:35 AM
Quote from: "AZLady"
No news...HA!  Wonder if he means there is nothing left to spin into a fantastical creation and pretend it might really have happened.  I keep coming back to the truth--the three perps were the last ones seen with her.  It's a bit hard to spin that into something it isn't.

I was at Scrux yesterday and was reading some of the posts.
Medley Relay seemed to have taken over the flavor of it.
Oh Well... He probably did have some idea that it was all about " evidence", but it turned into something else.
...........
I was reading about ill mannered cats & dogs and I have a sort of gross but funny story.
I used to do a lot of embroidery and needlework. My kitties used to sit in my lap when i would do this. Always facinated by the thread and the ribbon.
Came home from work one day, sititng on the couch and one of the kitties ran by. I saw a flash of something pink and wondered what she had found to play with. Chased her around and when I caught her, there was a pink ribbon hanging out of her bum, about a foot long and at the end of it was poop. Well, I had to pull it out of her. She had mostly expelled the thing, but she must have been running around all day
with her pink poop on a string !  The other one was probably very amused with the new game of play " string ".
Any time I have the sewing stuff out, I have to just take out what I need and watch them like a hawk.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: bamajo on June 28, 2006, 12:11:51 AM
Quote from: "igsigs"
Cool. Skeletor Paulus!

LOL!  that was a good one.

it looks as if he's a "switch watch wearer" - he wears them on both arms depending on his mood?!?!?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 28, 2006, 12:16:28 AM
Quote from: "Kat_Gram"

...........
I was reading about ill mannered cats & dogs and I have a sort of gross but funny story.
I used to do a lot of embroidery and needlework. My kitties used to sit in my lap when i would do this. Always facinated by the thread and the ribbon.
Came home from work one day, sititng on the couch and one of the kitties ran by. I saw a flash of something pink and wondered what she had found to play with. Chased her around and when I caught her, there was a pink ribbon hanging out of her bum, about a foot long and at the end of it was poop. Well, I had to pull it out of her. She had mostly expelled the thing, but she must have been running around all day
with her pink poop on a string !  The other one was probably very amused with the new game of play " string ".
Any time I have the sewing stuff out, I have to just take out what I need and watch them like a hawk.


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
I post on a Yorkie board and someone wrote a few years ago about how one of her dogs had something white hanging out of its bum.  She was surprised when she pulled out a  thin white cotton sock.   :shock:  :shock:
These rascal cats & dogs and the things they do.   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: igsigs on June 28, 2006, 12:16:29 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"

Ours aren't lost forever, we can get them back.  It just might cost some money to do it though.  But they are retrievable.

Red and Tom should take up a collection for specifically that. I know they don't want to...but i seen a few unsolicited offers already. It is something all can benefit from.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: the big hammer on June 28, 2006, 12:19:41 AM
Scrux Shut Down

Good Riddance.

Roger, the surrepticious underminer of truth, has decided to "move on".

I applaud his decision.

As scrux was home to those who fill bandwith with blather and uneduacated legal opinion about what could -- or should -- be entered into "evidence" in this case, with heavy weighting towards pro-goon stance.  Good bye and good luck.  You'll need it in the next world.

A 3:00am phone call corroborated by a mother is slam dunk evidence of abduction.  Have Beth sign the affidavit (as I'm sure she already has).

Where's that KIDNAPPING charge?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Whodunit? on June 28, 2006, 12:20:01 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Whodunit?"
Can anyone access blogsfornatalee.com?  I can't!


BFN exceeded it's bandwidth about a week ago.  They have been posting at their backup site:

http://www.prayfornatalee.com/forum/


Thanks, Klaas!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 28, 2006, 12:22:08 AM
Quote from: "igsigs"
Quote from: "klaasend"

Ours aren't lost forever, we can get them back.  It just might cost some money to do it though.  But they are retrievable.

Red and Tom should take up a collection for specifically that. I know they don't want to...but i seen a few unsolicited offers already. It is something all can benefit from.

I am in!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Hotshot on June 28, 2006, 12:26:45 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "igsigs"
FYI

Roger has shut down SCRUX.

I wonder if MedleyRelay really did write the Paulus letter?


It's been going down alot lately.  Did he actually announce it was shutting down or is it just down?


Scrux is not down.  I may be late on telling you this, if so, sorry.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 12:31:30 AM
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "igsigs"
FYI

Roger has shut down SCRUX.

I wonder if MedleyRelay really did write the Paulus letter?


It's been going down alot lately.  Did he actually announce it was shutting down or is it just down?


Scrux is not down.  I may be late on telling you this, if so, sorry.

Hotshot - Roger has announced he is shutting down in 36 hours to new posts.  He will leave the forum up to read and copy posts.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Hotshot on June 28, 2006, 12:34:01 AM
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "igsigs"
FYI

Roger has shut down SCRUX.

I wonder if MedleyRelay really did write the Paulus letter?


It's been going down alot lately.  Did he actually announce it was shutting down or is it just down?


Scrux is not down.  I may be late on telling you this, if so, sorry.

Hotshot - Roger has announced he is shutting down in 36 hours to new posts.  He will leave the forum up to read and copy posts.

Sorry Klaas as usual I am behind on things.  I just saw that.  It's been one of those days.... :shock:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 12:40:48 AM
Shower time, be back in a bit


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: robots on June 28, 2006, 12:46:06 AM
BO ROCKS  8)  :D  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Carnut on June 28, 2006, 12:55:09 AM
Quote from: "robots"
BO ROCKS  8)  :D  :lol:


Yeah, I agree, I think the video being aired is at Bo's behest.

I think it was to get the case back on the air and Bo was doing what he could to help out by providing the extended tapes.

Don't know if Greta really was airing them just to put Bo in a bad light even with her expressed misgivings of the event.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Hotshot on June 28, 2006, 12:58:18 AM
Quote from: "Carnut"
Quote from: "robots"
BO ROCKS  8)  :D  :lol:


Yeah, I agree, I think the video being aired is at Bo's behest.

I think it was to get the case back on the air and Bo was doing what he could to help out by providing the extended tapes.

Don't know if Greta really was airing them just to put Bo in a bad light even with her expressed misgivings of the event.


Someone has to get this thing started up again, I feel like we are loosing this, slowly slipping away.   I for one am a firm believer of what is in the bag, sorry if there are some that don't, but a picture says a thousand words, and I have seen the words.  If I am wrong here, I will eat my shoes.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: robots on June 28, 2006, 12:59:46 AM
i need to find these pictures, been busy working and have not been on much


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 28, 2006, 01:00:37 AM
What's happening with ArubasSilence?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Kat_Gram on June 28, 2006, 01:04:17 AM
Quote from: "robots"
BO ROCKS  8)  :D  :lol:

Joran was served on the plane, but for good measure ( when a plane is in the air, what juristiction is it in ) he was served again.
So what ?
Did anyone hit anyone ? No.
So Joran got served by Bo ?
Was Bo to ask : " Would you pretty please take this summons ? " :lol:  :lol:
Some producer got knocked on his ass.
Big deal.
Someone yelled at J-Goon. Can't have anyone yelling at the J-Goon.
ps Bo looks like he could make a person want to confess.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: robots on June 28, 2006, 01:06:11 AM
got to love BO


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Red on June 28, 2006, 01:16:33 AM
Quote from: "igsigs"
Quote from: "klaasend"

Ours aren't lost forever, we can get them back.  It just might cost some money to do it though.  But they are retrievable.

Red and Tom should take up a collection for specifically that. I know they don't want to...but i seen a few unsolicited offers already. It is something all can benefit from.


I have been meaning to discuss this but have been so busy and then the site crashed again.

I will put a post together tomorrow about this and the info retrival. I hope that all will get involved as we want to get all the archived info back up and then some that we never counted on.

I will discuss more on tomorrow


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 28, 2006, 01:20:26 AM
Quote from: "Red"


I have been meaning to discuss this but have been so busy and then the site crashed again.

I will put a post together tomorrow about this and the info retrival. I hope that all will get involved as we want to get all the archived info back up and then some that we never counted on.

I will discuss more on tomorrow


Thanks Red. I'll be more than happy to kick into the fund.

G'nite ya'll. Mr. Sandman is calling my name.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: the big hammer on June 28, 2006, 01:21:35 AM
Bo Dietl Is A Pro

Interfering w/ paper service is a crime.

And target refusing service is a crime as well.

The assertive nature of service was planned in advance.  

If they got goon on assault of court officer, then what a story.  BUT, goon was too scared of Dietl to engage.

Goon Child Did Not Know What Hit Him.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 01:25:08 AM
Quote from: "the big hammer"
Bo Dietl Is A Pro

Interfering w/ paper service is a crime.

And target refusing service is a crime as well.

The assertive nature of service was planned in advance.  

If they got goon on assault of court officer, then what a story.  BUT, goon was too scared of Dietl to engage.

Goon Child Did Not Know What Hit Him.


Hammer - great to see you!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Sleuth on June 28, 2006, 01:25:25 AM
IMO, you hit the nail on the head, hammer.. :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Red on June 28, 2006, 01:31:35 AM
Quote from: "Sleuth"
IMO, you hit the nail on the head, hammer.. :wink:


As usual.  :wink:

How goes it sleuth ...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 28, 2006, 01:33:11 AM
Quote from: "the big hammer"
Scrux Shut Down

Good Riddance.

Roger, the surrepticious underminer of truth, has decided to "move on".

I applaud his decision.

As scrux was home to those who fill bandwith with blather and uneduacated legal opinion about what could -- or should -- be entered into "evidence" in this case, with heavy weighting towards pro-goon stance.  Good bye and good luck.  You'll need it in the next world.

A 3:00am phone call corroborated by a mother is slam dunk evidence of abduction.  Have Beth sign the affidavit (as I'm sure she already has).

Where's that KIDNAPPING charge?


right on :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: igsigs on June 28, 2006, 01:33:44 AM
Quote from: "Red"
I hope that all will get involved as we want to get all the archived info back up and then some that we never counted on.


Never counted on? Hmmm. This sounds like scandi-nor territory to me.

I'm in.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: ldstlou on June 28, 2006, 01:37:03 AM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "Red"


I have been meaning to discuss this but have been so busy and then the site crashed again.

I will put a post together tomorrow about this and the info retrival. I hope that all will get involved as we want to get all the archived info back up and then some that we never counted on.

I will discuss more on tomorrow


Thanks Red. I'll be more than happy to kick into the fund.

G'nite ya'll. Mr. Sandman is calling my name.


My Momma always said.."put your $$ where your mouth is"!!
I'm in Red!! Just let us know what you need!! And give Mrs. Red a big hug for me tonight!! Sounds like she could REALLY use one!! and CERTAINLY deserves one from us all!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 28, 2006, 01:39:37 AM
and btw I am 14% New Jersey :shock:
How in the heck did I even get 14%???


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 01:41:26 AM
Quote from: "spooky112483"
and btw I am 14% New Jersey :shock:
How in the heck did I even get 14%???


Heck, I'm 30% and I live in California - never even been there!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Hotshot on June 28, 2006, 01:42:48 AM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
What's happening with ArubasSilence?


Sorry behind again....you have mail.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Sleuth on June 28, 2006, 01:44:35 AM
Quote from: "Red"
Quote from: "igsigs"
Well, my glass is half-full on Carlos the Colombian. Per Jossy, the only one who has talked to him, he is pointing the finger at Joran and is being taken seriously by Janssen. The media lockdown on his status is not just because he is being held as an illegal. No way. And Beth or JQK will not respond in an overly positive way to this witness with the civil case decision coming right up.


Will probably be doing a FP post on this tomorrow, but a couple things strike me about this witness.

1) Karen Janssen has told Beth thru JQK that she though the witness was credible.

2) There is no way they would be holding this guy in jail if it was just about an illegal immigration thing. He would have been deported.

3) This witness claimed there was a cable in the water that was used that night and there was in fact one there. So either he actually saw this occur or he put the cable there. What are the odds?

I have spoke with Beth recently and she looks at this with guarded optimism.



Thank you Red.  I so hope something comes of this..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 01:46:39 AM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/klaasend2/threadlock.jpg)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Hotshot on June 28, 2006, 01:48:32 AM
Feeling invisable again,......Good night!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 01:51:02 AM
Quote from: "Hotshot"
Feeling invisable again,......Good night!

Nite Hotshot - you aren't invisable.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 28, 2006, 01:51:44 AM
I'm watching NG right now...
first off I get the impression that JQK wanted himself and Beth to get back out in the media sotospeak because they want this "evidence" documented in the public so it wont just disappeare.
second...the bo deitle tape...i felt like it totally went to bo's defense and credit. the producer guy was hindering in the legal process and could clearly be heard saying "get away from him (joran) dont touch him" and bo keeps saying "this is a legal process i am serving him with legal papers"
so whatever greta is trying to pull I dont know but to me this video is in favor of bo.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Sleuth on June 28, 2006, 01:56:12 AM
Quote from: "Red"
Quote from: "Sleuth"
IMO, you hit the nail on the head, hammer.. :wink:


As usual.  :wink:

How goes it sleuth ...


Sorry for the delay in responding..was trying to catch up to Klaasend in my self-taught papiamento lessons.  If you read those papers long enough you can figure the stories out   :wink:

Yep,  as usual.  Always good work by Hammer...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 01:58:21 AM
GOODNIGHT ALL - see you in the morning!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 01:59:54 AM
Good evening.morning everyone!!  What's the word?  ;)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 28, 2006, 02:02:04 AM
so the color on my TV has been shot for like 6 months now so I finally went and bought a brand new Samsung 40" LCD flat screen TV!!!!!!!
I got it today but Dad didnt have the time to hook it up so it's sitting right over there in it's box taunting me "Dontch wish your Tv was hot like me? Doncha wish your TV was a freak like me? Doncha..." :lol:  :lol:
When I get it hooked up everyone is invited to my house to watch whatever sport is on at the time :wink:  :lol:
Hell even Rita or NG in 40"s of liquid crystal HD splendor!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 02:04:35 AM
Quote from: "spooky112483"
so the color on my TV has been shot for like 6 months now so I finally went and bought a brand new Samsung 40" LCD flat screen TV!!!!!!!
I got it today but Dad didnt have the time to hook it up so it's sitting right over there in it's box taunting me "Dontch wish your Tv was hot like me? Doncha wish your TV was a freak like me? Doncha..." :lol:  :lol:
When I get it hooked up everyone is invited to my house to watch whatever sport is on at the time :wink:  :lol:
Hell even Rita or NG in 40"s of liquid crystal HD splendor!!!


40" LCD, huh?  I'm there!!  Wait...as long as we don't watch any of the World Cup games, or replays of the Heat winning the championship!!  Any other sporting events are OK with me...;)

How you been girl?  See 'lil man on the BET awards show this evening?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 28, 2006, 02:08:39 AM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "spooky112483"
so the color on my TV has been shot for like 6 months now so I finally went and bought a brand new Samsung 40" LCD flat screen TV!!!!!!!
I got it today but Dad didnt have the time to hook it up so it's sitting right over there in it's box taunting me "Dontch wish your Tv was hot like me? Doncha wish your TV was a freak like me? Doncha..." :lol:  :lol:
When I get it hooked up everyone is invited to my house to watch whatever sport is on at the time :wink:  :lol:
Hell even Rita or NG in 40"s of liquid crystal HD splendor!!!


40" LCD, huh?  I'm there!!  Wait...as long as we don't watch any of the World Cup games, or replays of the Heat winning the championship!!  Any other sporting events are OK with me...;)

How you been girl?  See 'lil man on the BET awards show this evening?


know u know me better then that! really what crossed my mind tonight was that i wonder where i can find a DVD of the Masters when Phil won? :lol:  cause in the store they were showing highlights of golf on all these HD TVs and it was so stunningly beautiful! and I would love to christen my TV with that! yeah, I'm a nerd :oops:
what lil man? i didnt watch....tell tell


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 02:13:00 AM
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "spooky112483"
so the color on my TV has been shot for like 6 months now so I finally went and bought a brand new Samsung 40" LCD flat screen TV!!!!!!!
I got it today but Dad didnt have the time to hook it up so it's sitting right over there in it's box taunting me "Dontch wish your Tv was hot like me? Doncha wish your TV was a freak like me? Doncha..." :lol:  :lol:
When I get it hooked up everyone is invited to my house to watch whatever sport is on at the time :wink:  :lol:
Hell even Rita or NG in 40"s of liquid crystal HD splendor!!!


40" LCD, huh?  I'm there!!  Wait...as long as we don't watch any of the World Cup games, or replays of the Heat winning the championship!!  Any other sporting events are OK with me...;)

How you been girl?  See 'lil man on the BET awards show this evening?


know u know me better then that! really what crossed my mind tonight was that i wonder where i can find a DVD of the Masters when Phil won? :lol:  cause in the store they were showing highlights of golf on all these HD TVs and it was so stunningly beautiful! and I would love to christen my TV with that! yeah, I'm a nerd :oops:
what lil man? i didnt watch....tell tell


I thought Phil choked away the Masters?  But, what do I know??  ;)

I was talking about the lil' man!  You know...the PURPLE one!!  ;)  He performed at the BET awards show here in L.A. this evening.  He performed "3121" live, but not before performing in a medley tribute to Chaka Khan with none other then Stevie Wonder, India Arie, and Yolanda Adams.  Greatness on that stage for sure...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Sleuth on June 28, 2006, 02:14:35 AM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
 
40" LCD, huh?  I'm there!!  Wait...as long as we don't watch any of the World Cup games, or replays of the Heat winning the championship!!  Any other sporting events are OK with me...;)

How you been girl?  See 'lil man on the BET awards show this evening?


Hey - what's wrong with the HEAT replays.. :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 28, 2006, 02:15:28 AM
wow! dang sorry i missed it. i'm sure they'll replay it. I'll keep an eye out for it :wink:

and yes, he totally pooped away the US Open this year. I was at the beach watching it and I was soooo mad!! I was slinging sand :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 02:18:49 AM
Quote from: "Sleuth"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
 
40" LCD, huh?  I'm there!!  Wait...as long as we don't watch any of the World Cup games, or replays of the Heat winning the championship!!  Any other sporting events are OK with me...;)

How you been girl?  See 'lil man on the BET awards show this evening?


Hey - what's wrong with the HEAT replays.. :wink:


I guess nothin'...if you like to watch broke down, has-been centers...;)  Just playin'...

How you Sleuth?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Sleuth on June 28, 2006, 02:22:20 AM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
 
Quote from: "Sleuth"

Hey - what's wrong with the HEAT replays.. :wink:


I guess nothin'...if you like to watch broke down, has-been centers...;)  Just playin'...

How you Sleuth?



haha - you're just saying that because he plays with D. Wade instead of Kobe.   I like watching D. Wade mainly - the best star in a long time  (other than Spooky's Crimson QB of course).

How was your game tonight?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 02:26:47 AM
Quote from: "Sleuth"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
 
Quote from: "Sleuth"

Hey - what's wrong with the HEAT replays.. :wink:


I guess nothin'...if you like to watch broke down, has-been centers...;)  Just playin'...

How you Sleuth?



haha - you're just saying that because he plays with D. Wade instead of Kobe.   I like watching D. Wade mainly - the best star in a long time  (other than Spooky's Crimson QB of course).

How was your game tonight?


Well, if he WAS still playing with Kobe, they'd have just finished winning their what...6th title together?  Oh well...greatness NOT fully realized in their case... :roll:

Oh, you remembered my game, huh?  Well, we were down 3 points with under a minute left.  The other team had possession, and we had to foul.  They inbounded, and I was the closest to the player.  I gave him a slight push, and he acted out a fall.  They called me for a flagrant...they got (2) shots plus the ball, and I think we lost by 8 ultimately.  Needless to say, I was a little annoyed.  Well, that and my knees are killing me.  I had ACL reconstruction surgey in July of '04, and it still bothers me on occassion...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Sleuth on June 28, 2006, 02:27:33 AM
I missed the BET awards also.   We ended up watching MTV's Real World - because it had all the footage of the local hotel where the walls blew out during the hurricane.   Mr. Sleuth was at the hotel at the time and had seen the footage last fall (they kept trying to get the filming crews to quit hanging out the windows taping the show...)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 28, 2006, 02:27:53 AM
Quote from: "Sleuth"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
 
40" LCD, huh?  I'm there!!  Wait...as long as we don't watch any of the World Cup games, or replays of the Heat winning the championship!!  Any other sporting events are OK with me...;)

How you been girl?  See 'lil man on the BET awards show this evening?


Hey - what's wrong with the HEAT replays.. :wink:


Take away Shaq and they're all good. and yes I'm bitter and not afraid to say it :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 02:29:36 AM
Quote from: "Sleuth"
I missed the BET awards also.   We ended up watching MTV's Real World - because it had all the footage of the local hotel where the walls blew out during the hurricane.   Mr. Sleuth was at the hotel at the time and had seen the footage last fall (they kept trying to get the filming crews to quit hanging out the windows taping the show...)


Well, anyone who wants a copy, I can hook them up on DVD.  I got ALL his performances from this year saved on HD.  he performed on the "Good Morning America" show a few Friday's ago as well.  Just let me know.  Always willing to help...;)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 28, 2006, 02:31:04 AM
Quote from: "Sleuth"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
 
Quote from: "Sleuth"

Hey - what's wrong with the HEAT replays.. :wink:


I guess nothin'...if you like to watch broke down, has-been centers...;)  Just playin'...

How you Sleuth?



haha - you're just saying that because he plays with D. Wade instead of Kobe.   I like watching D. Wade mainly - the best star in a long time  (other than Spooky's Crimson QB of course).

How was your game tonight?


oh and i gotta give the love to D Wade. he is outstanding.
btw QB is now in more of a true red hue than crimson :wink:  (he's with the Chiefs and doing well I hear.)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Sleuth on June 28, 2006, 02:31:18 AM
Sorry to hear about the knees and the game outcome, XXX.  But it is always fun to watch whenever it is close, regardless of the outcome (I can say that from the seats, huh, but I'm sure it is different when you are on the floor).

Speaking of the HEAT, the last 3 games were the best I've seen.  All on-the-edge-of-your-seat endings.  Makes for great spectating..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 02:33:11 AM
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Quote from: "Sleuth"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
 
40" LCD, huh?  I'm there!!  Wait...as long as we don't watch any of the World Cup games, or replays of the Heat winning the championship!!  Any other sporting events are OK with me...;)

How you been girl?  See 'lil man on the BET awards show this evening?


Hey - what's wrong with the HEAT replays.. :wink:


Take away Shaq and they're all good. and yes I'm bitter and not afraid to say it :lol:


They are actually a better defensive team with Shaq sitting his old a** on the bench while Alonzo is busy blocking shots and rebounding.  Wait...come to think of it, I can't stand Mourning either... :roll: I do have to admit though...I like Wade's game.  He's not Kobe, but he's pretty close.  We should have DEMANDED Wade be included in the Shaq for Odom (and co.) trade.  I think Riley would have done the deal if pressed...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Sleuth on June 28, 2006, 02:33:12 AM
Did you see that Dana Pretzer is going to have Art Wood this Sunday?

Sunday Nights at 10pm est

July 2nd - Investigator Art Wood

http://bruinfan.sasktelwebsite.net/guests.htm


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Sleuth on June 28, 2006, 02:36:37 AM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"

 I do have to admit though...I like Wade's game.  He's not Kobe, but he's pretty close.  We should have DEMANDED Wade be included in the Shaq for Odom (and co.) trade.  I think Riley would have done the deal if pressed...


No way - Shaq specifically said he'd only come to Miami if D Wade was here - that was part of the deal....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 28, 2006, 02:36:58 AM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "Sleuth"
I missed the BET awards also.   We ended up watching MTV's Real World - because it had all the footage of the local hotel where the walls blew out during the hurricane.   Mr. Sleuth was at the hotel at the time and had seen the footage last fall (they kept trying to get the filming crews to quit hanging out the windows taping the show...)


Well, anyone who wants a copy, I can hook them up on DVD.  I got ALL his performances from this year saved on HD.  he performed on the "Good Morning America" show a few Friday's ago as well.  Just let me know.  Always willing to help...;)


I do I do!! sending u an email :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Sleuth on June 28, 2006, 02:37:29 AM
It's late - off to bed now.  G'nite XXX and Spooky.

Spooky - I meant to say ex-Crimson QB.... :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 02:38:08 AM
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "Sleuth"
I missed the BET awards also.   We ended up watching MTV's Real World - because it had all the footage of the local hotel where the walls blew out during the hurricane.   Mr. Sleuth was at the hotel at the time and had seen the footage last fall (they kept trying to get the filming crews to quit hanging out the windows taping the show...)


Well, anyone who wants a copy, I can hook them up on DVD.  I got ALL his performances from this year saved on HD.  he performed on the "Good Morning America" show a few Friday's ago as well.  Just let me know.  Always willing to help...;)


I do I do!! sending u an email :wink:


You send me your address, and I'll hook you up for sure!!  ;)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Sleuth on June 28, 2006, 02:38:21 AM
XXX - If I don't catch the replay of the BET awards I'll let you know...Thanks for the offer..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 02:40:20 AM
Quote from: "Sleuth"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"

 I do have to admit though...I like Wade's game.  He's not Kobe, but he's pretty close.  We should have DEMANDED Wade be included in the Shaq for Odom (and co.) trade.  I think Riley would have done the deal if pressed...


No way - Shaq specifically said he'd only come to Miami if D Wade was here - that was part of the deal....


Shaq would have had no choice.  He was being traded, not signing a free agent deal.  He'd have either reported, or lost tons of $$ holding out.  Remember...the Lakers extension offer (which he turned down) would have made him the highest paid player in the NBA (at that time).  Funny thing is, he ultimatelyt signed for much less with the Heat (and he said the Lakers offer wasn't high enough, and for less years then he wanted). In the end, it's ALWAYS about money... :roll:  :roll:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 02:41:29 AM
Quote from: "Sleuth"
XXX - If I don't catch the replay of the BET awards I'll let you know...Thanks for the offer..


Not a problem.  Offer has no expiration date...;)

Have a good night Sleuth!  Hopefully see you tomorrow...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 28, 2006, 02:43:53 AM
Quote from: "Sleuth"
Did you see that Dana Pretzer is going to have Art Wood this Sunday?

Sunday Nights at 10pm est

July 2nd - Investigator Art Wood

http://bruinfan.sasktelwebsite.net/guests.htm


I did! I actually thought it was last Sunday and I made sure I was home and all ready to go an there was nothing on SM front page. :lol:  I'm so excited about this happening. Dana is awsome and such a beautiful person for doing this.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 28, 2006, 02:46:09 AM
nite Sleuth


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 02:47:13 AM
Quote from: "spooky112483"
nite Sleuth


Just sent you an email response.  I'll get those discs out by weeks end...;)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 28, 2006, 02:55:33 AM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "spooky112483"
nite Sleuth


Just sent you an email response.  I'll get those discs out by weeks end...;)



woohoo! i'm excited! thanks hon :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 03:00:00 AM
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "spooky112483"
nite Sleuth


Just sent you an email response.  I'll get those discs out by weeks end...;)



woohoo! i'm excited! thanks hon :D


I'm sure you'll enjoy it!  Good stuff!!  ;)

My legs are killing me, so I think I'm going to chill for a bit...and then hit the sack.  You gonna be around at all tomorrow?  If so, I'll be sure to look for you...;)

Be good!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 28, 2006, 03:07:01 AM
i hope to be going to bed asap but mr sandman may have other ideas.
goodnight to ya anyway
good to be back to turn off the lights in the cage :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 03:12:02 AM
Quote from: "spooky112483"
i hope to be going to bed asap but mr sandman may have other ideas.
goodnight to ya anyway
good to be back to turn off the lights in the cage :D


Well, I don't want to leave you alone in here. I can stay for a while...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 28, 2006, 03:26:13 AM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "spooky112483"
i hope to be going to bed asap but mr sandman may have other ideas.
goodnight to ya anyway
good to be back to turn off the lights in the cage :D


Well, I don't want to leave you alone in here. I can stay for a while...


always the gentleman :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 03:40:25 AM
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "spooky112483"
i hope to be going to bed asap but mr sandman may have other ideas.
goodnight to ya anyway
good to be back to turn off the lights in the cage :D


Well, I don't want to leave you alone in here. I can stay for a while...


always the gentleman :D


Momma must have taught me well...;)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 28, 2006, 03:47:39 AM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "spooky112483"
i hope to be going to bed asap but mr sandman may have other ideas.
goodnight to ya anyway
good to be back to turn off the lights in the cage :D


Well, I don't want to leave you alone in here. I can stay for a while...


always the gentleman :D


Momma must have taught me well...;)


it is obvious that she did an outstanding job as momma. and we all know the most important job in the whole world is "momma".


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 03:47:45 AM
OK, I'm off to bed.  Good night Spook!! ;)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: spooky112483 on June 28, 2006, 03:52:55 AM
me too. nite Third
God bless Natalee and her family
WE WILL GET HER JUSTICE


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 03:54:02 AM
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "spooky112483"
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "spooky112483"
i hope to be going to bed asap but mr sandman may have other ideas.
goodnight to ya anyway
good to be back to turn off the lights in the cage :D


Well, I don't want to leave you alone in here. I can stay for a while...


always the gentleman :D


Momma must have taught me well...;)


it is obvious that she did an outstanding job as momma. and we all know the most important job in the whole world is "momma".


Ain't that the truth!!  And, I appreciate the endorsement!

Oh, and just for the record...your Momma didn't do such a bad job either... :D

Good night!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: thirdstrike on June 28, 2006, 03:54:43 AM
Quote from: "spooky112483"
me too. nite Third
God bless Natalee and her family
WE WILL GET HER JUSTICE


Amen!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: nonesuche on June 28, 2006, 04:14:38 AM
I guess since I miss everyone with my crazy hours of late, I'll be the first post in the morning?  :lol:

I sure hope Art Wood is very candid on Sunday's show with Dana, I also hope some monkeys will send some targeted emails and phone calls to Dana ask some very specific questions. Wasn't Art the one quoted in the NE article? Hey where is Klaas when you need her??? No sleeping for you young lady !  :lol:

igsigs and I typically agree on most things but I have to say Greta's two-timing act has worn thin with me. I think any host with the prime slot she has needs to stand for something, not play waffle here and waffle there. I also don't think Bo used unnecessary force, but that the ABC producer took liberties he should have known better than to insert himself into a legal service process. Do notice that never once was Joran "a man" (this son of an attorney and judge wannabe), he never stepped in to diffuse by taking the papers, oh no, he did what he does so well -- he ran while denying -- like father, like son, apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Oh and Darleen, I think you should share that tiara with someone more deserving. I did just purchase a tiara cookie cutter though, of course I promise to use it only with stale cookie dough!

How bout you give it to Klaas? She's not a sassy-mouthed sasha  :lol: Hey while you tour Europe how about swinging by the Hague and tossing your tiara like a boomerang at the NFI outfit??? Better yet, you could likely demand those results on that cabling, I can see it now..... "you stop right there and hand over those results, you are not the boss of me!! "  :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 28, 2006, 06:06:25 AM
6AM - RISE AND SHINE EVERYONE

Good morning this fine Wednesday, June 28, 2006.  It will be partly cloudy and stinking hot & humid down here in Jawja.

I hope everyone has a great day today, and that we have some good news for the H/T families, as well.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 06:18:45 AM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
6AM - RISE AND SHINE EVERYONE

Good morning this fine Wednesday, June 28, 2006.  It will be partly cloudy and stinking hot & humid down here in Jawja.

I hope everyone has a great day today, and that we have some good news for the H/T families, as well.


Rising and Shining are over rated!!!!!!!!!!!  LOL

Good morning to Sun, None,and all!!!!!!!!

Catch you all later, running late for work as usual....

So why I am even on line....lol....

Byeeeeeeeeee for now


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Leslie on June 28, 2006, 06:42:50 AM
Bo Dietl video -  I Served Darth Vader - May 17, 2006
http://tinyurl.com/lgukq
Diario   June 28, 2006
http://tinyurl.com/ngj3k
Amigoe
http://www.amigoe.com/english/
Solo Di Pueblo
http://www.solodipueblo.com/


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Leslie on June 28, 2006, 07:06:36 AM
Geraldo at Large video - Holloway Lawsuit Exclusive
Feb. 21, 2006
http://tinyurl.com/rhfnv


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 28, 2006, 07:22:42 AM
Good Morning!  All caught up and it's only 7:25.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: MissinNat on June 28, 2006, 07:32:52 AM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Good Morning!  All caught up and it's only 7:25.


Good morning, Peaches and everyone!  Sorry to hear about the racoon!

Hope today is a better day!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 07:40:44 AM
Uncle Mike in court yesterday but to no avail.

Scheduled to be back in court this afternoon, and supposedly a decision will be rendered to see if he will be released or if this will go to court.

Heard this same song and dance 10 times already but maybe today we'll get some news.

Will keep you posted.

everyone have a great day...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 07:44:49 AM
Well, I prmoptly fell sound asleep just as Rita Cosby was coming on last night.  Did we learn anything new, or was it more about the Columbian witness we already know about?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 28, 2006, 07:47:38 AM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Uncle Mike in court yesterday but to no avail.

Scheduled to be back in court this afternoon, and supposedly a decision will be rendered to see if he will be released or if this will go to court.

Heard this same song and dance 10 times already but maybe today we'll get some news.

Will keep you posted.

everyone have a great day...


Hello to Peaches, Jacqueline, Missin and everyine else.

I'm so sorry about all this deceit with Uncle Mike's detainment in Sierra Leone.  Hopefully, today will be the day he is freed.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 28, 2006, 07:48:41 AM
Easy, I'm in the cheap seats here without MSNBC.  Sorry I can't help.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 08:04:24 AM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Easy, I'm in the cheap seats here without MSNBC.  Sorry I can't help.


I'll go back and see if there is a transcript.  I was just being lazy and hoped for a quick re-cap.

I see that Scrux is closing its doors to new post.  Now, if a few other radical boards would do the same it would be a better internet world!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 08:09:17 AM
Jacqueline



Joined: 28 Apr 2006

 Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:23 pm    Post subject:    

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Live and Direct with Rita Crosby

6-27-06

Columbian witness credible?

secret exposed, new arrest...been kept under wraps.

Columbian national has been behind bars since last month.

Julia: his name is carlos. from columbia, he has certain info claiming to have witnessed a possible murder. he is not specific that it is natalee but it happened the night she vanished. he heard screaming, and saw someone being dragged out to the water. claims to have seen a small young lady with a tall young man. could not identify the vehicle. he had had a fight with his wife, and he drove up there to relax and watch the ocean. he was woken up by screaming.....

Well, he came forward several months ago, he spoke to media people, who then brought him to authorities.....pressing him that it was his responsibility to go.

You have to understand, the pros is not speaking to the press they are making a strong dedication to the case.

it is up to the judge how long they keep him, could be up to 180 days, but i doubt that will happen. If any of the details he brings forth is credible he will continue to be deatined, not as a suspect, but because he is an illegal alien, just like in the US you just can go and live on someone's country.

We are now getting our first moment of the civil law suit in quite dramatic fashion. this exchange on video tape was pretty heated.

they are showing the tape now....

Holloway family waiting to hear if civil case will go forward.

Bo: when it hit the ground, i served him without any witnesses. my opinion is, this was a very important case. we video taped it to show that he was served properly and we had evidence of it. this is a very important case. I am sick and tired of his lies. he knows what happened, and there is no doubt in my mind. He was trying to hide, he came over to do interview to explain he had nothing to do with it. maybe it was a little over the top....he looked at me with those eyes, and i asked him where he hid the body, he just looked vicious. i have no problem with that.

I belivee he is very capable of raping a girl, he is a very big man 6 ft 6...i believe he has done this before, and utilized date rape drugs that are all over the caribeean. ale screwed up this from the beginning. if they can't keep their country in line we should not go into aruba.

all thses leads pop out. fact is joran is one of the last ones to be seen with her. he is the one who last saw her alive. if he tells the truth, we may be able to find out how and where natalee was lost.

he was resisiting, the producer came up and gave me a shove.

I'm doing a legal process here, you can't push me....I think he landed on his backside....he had slippery shoes, and he went down.

so i stuffed the papers in his jacket, i walked him out and asked him a couple of questions...like where did you bury the body...
_________________
- A lie is any communication given with the intent to deceive.

- Elder Marvin J. Ashton

GOT CONSCIENCE?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 08:12:33 AM
Quote from: "Leslie"
Bo Dietl video -  I Served Darth Vader - May 17, 2006
http://tinyurl.com/lgukq
Diario   June 28, 2006
http://tinyurl.com/ngj3k
Amigoe
http://www.amigoe.com/english/
Solo Di Pueblo
http://www.solodipueblo.com/



Good Morning!

The governement might save a ton of overtime for the polis if they
implemented a "No Eating/Drinking on the Job" policy and also that members of LE arrive already shaved and dressed and ready for actual work.  Another factor could be decreasing pay for any days worked when not complying with a basic physical fitness format.

Four million florins in four months for overtime for THAT particular LE
group on such a small island does seem very excessive.  I wonder what they got in return besides a bunch of empty Frosted Flake boxes??

 8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 28, 2006, 08:16:57 AM
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Quote from: "Sleuth"
I missed the BET awards also.   We ended up watching MTV's Real World - because it had all the footage of the local hotel where the walls blew out during the hurricane.   Mr. Sleuth was at the hotel at the time and had seen the footage last fall (they kept trying to get the filming crews to quit hanging out the windows taping the show...)


Well, anyone who wants a copy, I can hook them up on DVD.  I got ALL his performances from this year saved on HD.  he performed on the "Good Morning America" show a few Friday's ago as well.  Just let me know.  Always willing to help...;)


Oh my gosh, Strike ~ I'd LOVE a copy of his performances!!!!!!  Man!  Oh Strike!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 28, 2006, 08:19:23 AM
Jack ~ Uncle Mike is surely in my prayers!!!  They HAVE to let him go soon!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: KatzHome on June 28, 2006, 08:23:22 AM
And now I'm going in to sleep ~ good night and good day everyone ~ and good afternoon too, Widget!  :D

I have a doctor's appointment this afternoon at 2:00 ~ I've been sleeping till noon all week ~ so I may not see you all until later on in the day...

I hope that everyone will
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Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: SunFreak2 on June 28, 2006, 08:23:31 AM
Quote from: "Anna"

Four million florins in four months for overtime for THAT particular LE
group on such a small island does seem very excessive.  I wonder what they got in return besides a bunch of empty Frosted Flake boxes??
 8)


Gee, and I thought they had no crime in Aruba.  Maybe all this overtime was for directing all the tourist traffic around the strikes & protests.  Then again, it could be for a run to the store for cereal & donuts and out to the rocks to watch workers put up nonexistent signs.  :lol:   :lol:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 08:23:40 AM
Quote from: "KatzHome"
Jack ~ Uncle Mike is surely in my prayers!!!  They HAVE to let him go soon!!!


Thanks, Katz and to all !


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Leslie on June 28, 2006, 08:35:42 AM
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "Anna"

Four million florins in four months for overtime for THAT particular LE
group on such a small island does seem very excessive.  I wonder what they got in return besides a bunch of empty Frosted Flake boxes??
 8)

Gee, and I thought they had no crime in Aruba.  Maybe all this overtime was for directing all the tourist traffic around the strikes & protests.  Then again, it could be for a run to the store for cereal & donuts and out to the rocks to watch workers put up nonexistent signs.  :lol:   :lol:

Obviously, they need to hire more polis if they are paying time and a half
to a cop when they could be paying just the regular hourly wage to a new recruit.  In my estimation, they are wasting 335,000 florins a month doing it the wrong way.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Anna on June 28, 2006, 08:43:21 AM
Quote from: "Leslie"
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
Quote from: "Anna"

Four million florins in four months for overtime for THAT particular LE
group on such a small island does seem very excessive.  I wonder what they got in return besides a bunch of empty Frosted Flake boxes??
 8)

Gee, and I thought they had no crime in Aruba.  Maybe all this overtime was for directing all the tourist traffic around the strikes & protests.  Then again, it could be for a run to the store for cereal & donuts and out to the rocks to watch workers put up nonexistent signs.  :lol:   :lol:

Obviously, they need to hire more polis if they are paying time and a half
to a cop when they could be paying just the regular hourly wage to a new recruit.  In my estimation, they are wasting 335,000 florins a month doing it the wrong way.



Maybe Oduber ran out of friends or does not have enough to fill the quota.

 8)


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 28, 2006, 08:46:39 AM
Morning Monkeys!

Why does Aruba need so much police overtime?

It takes alot of effort to cover up the truth.

They have to put manpower everywhere somebody might discover the truth about Natalee and to supress evidence in other criminal cases.

Simple!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 28, 2006, 08:47:43 AM
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
Morning Monkeys!

Why does Aruba need so much police overtime?

It takes alot of effort to cover up the truth.

They have to put manpower everywhere somebody might discover the truth about Natalee and to supress evidence in other criminal cases.

Simple!


Morning, Mermaid.  You're pretty sharp first thing in the morning!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 28, 2006, 08:51:00 AM
Hi Peaches!

It just makes sense to me.

Keep police everywhere there could be a problem and you got alot of overtime going on!

Not like they are coming out and saying it's a sweep of "One Happy Island" to clean up crime - it's to keep the investigative forces at bay!

How are you feeling darling?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Kimmy53 on June 28, 2006, 08:54:03 AM
Good Morning Monkeys!  Hiya Peaches and Flyingmermaid!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 28, 2006, 08:55:08 AM
I'm GOOD!  Of course, my last round of chemo was June7, next one is July 5.  This is the in-between time when I feel pretty good.  

Did the Marine enjoy his dinner last nite?  I hope his uniform still fits after dining at your house while on leave.  You have the most interesting menus.  Last nite I had grilled salmon on top of a nice bagged salad.  DH grills the salmon and I dump the salad in the bowls. Teamwork.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 28, 2006, 09:08:08 AM
That Marine ran and worked out yesterday!  Was starving by the time that shrimp alfredo hit the table!

He usually drops 10-12 Lbs. on a tour.  He is about 5'11" and maybe 165-170 funny cause he was a kinda flabby teen.  Too many video games and snacks.

Tonight we are going out to his fav wing place for wings and beer - but he likes the waitresses too (and no Not Hooters) just a local haunt.

Hi Kimmycakes!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 28, 2006, 09:17:48 AM
Guess we are fearing a lock out!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Leslie on June 28, 2006, 09:23:47 AM
This is the new link
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=11


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 28, 2006, 09:23:58 AM
I hope Klaas is still sleeping myself.  She works much too hard at this.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 28, 2006, 09:29:24 AM
Quote from: "Peaches"
I hope Klaas is still sleeping myself.  She works much too hard at this.


true, true, true.

She is a lesson in dedication, perseverence and intelligence!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 28, 2006, 09:31:04 AM
Apparently, we are sucking up to Klaas in her absence.  She'll enjoy that.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 28, 2006, 09:40:07 AM
You know Peaches - I am very sincere - she is a real role model - doesn't get mad, very level, good instincts and consistent - we are lucky to have her.  Earlier Mods on this board did not come close.  And just look at where they are now.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 09:42:12 AM
Morning Monkeys...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 09:44:31 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Morning Monkeys...


Morning Mrs!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 28, 2006, 09:44:47 AM
You're right, FM.  I was just kidding.  She is simply the BEST.

Morning, Mrs. Red.   I tried to email you last nite and I couldn't get it to go anywhere.  Hmmmm..   Wasn't important really.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 09:46:22 AM
Quote from: "Peaches"
You're right, FM.  I was just kidding.  She is simply the BEST.

Morning, Mrs. Red.   I tried to email you last nite and I couldn't get it to go anywhere.  Hmmmm..   Wasn't important really.


Peaches, you can email me through my profile, I am going to look at it and be sure it's still on there!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 28, 2006, 09:48:45 AM
Top of the day to Jacqueline, Jerry from Ohio, mrs. red, Peaches and everyone else out there..  I need some coffee but wanted to say hi!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 09:49:29 AM
Quote from: "terryd270"
Top of the day to Jacqueline, Jerry from Ohio, mrs. red, Peaches and everyone else out there..  I need some coffee but wanted to say hi!


I could use some more coffee myself... I love coffee!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 09:50:52 AM
Quote from: "terryd270"
Top of the day to Jacqueline, Jerry from Ohio, mrs. red, Peaches and everyone else out there..  I need some coffee but wanted to say hi!


Good morning, Terry!


Title: Mrs red a question if you please ms ?
Post by: Jerry from Ohio on June 28, 2006, 09:52:44 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Morning Monkeys...

  Did I ever get an answer to my question about if someone did something to bring about the saying that  " Nobody puts Red in a corner "  
   Did something or someone do something that I have missed ? Thanks in advance  .
    Jerry from Ohio (Who is always interested in things like this and where they come from <g>)
  PS  I admire Red Tom Klauss and yourself as wellas most of the SM  this Blog  is an awesome undertakeing
  Jerry


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 09:53:02 AM
I watched the interview with Beth on NG last night and that woman has become one strong person.  I can’t imagine sitting there as a parent and hearing some of the stories that float around and still maintain my composure.  I would either be a blithering idiot, or mad as he!!.


Title: Re: Mrs red a question if you please ms ?
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 09:53:51 AM
Quote from: "Jerry from Ohio"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Morning Monkeys...

  Did I ever get an answer to my question about if someone did something to bring about the saying that  " Nobody puts Red in a corner "  
   Did something or someone do something that I have missed ? Thanks in advance  .
    Jerry from Ohio (Who is always interested in things like this and where they come from <g>)
  PS  I admire Red Tom Klauss and yourself as wellas most of the SM  this Blog  is an awesome undertakeing
  Jerry


I did answer you...LOL...

I was watching the movie Dirty Dancing Sunday night and managed to get everyone way off topic talking about it... I was just being silly!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 09:54:18 AM
Ooooooo, I think we have ventured into no man's land!  Page 51!!!!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 09:55:03 AM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I watched the interview with Beth on NG last night and that woman has become one strong person.  I can’t imagine sitting there as a parent and hearing some of the stories that float around and still maintain my composure.  I would either be a blithering idiot, or mad as he!!.


When I saw that Julia was on... I skipped the interview... but yes, I have nothing but admiration for Beth and Dave... they are incredible people


Title: Good Morning all
Post by: Jerry from Ohio on June 28, 2006, 09:56:03 AM
Quote from: "Jacqueline"
Quote from: "terryd270"
Top of the day to Jacqueline, Jerry from Ohio, mrs. red, Peaches and everyone else out there..  I need some coffee but wanted to say hi!


Good morning, Terry!

  and a very good Morning  to you too Terrl Mrs Red  Peaches and Jacqueline and all <g>
  Jerry from Ohio


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 09:56:07 AM
I should have said "Area 51"  It would have been more dramatic! lol


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 28, 2006, 09:56:13 AM
Hey Terry!

What am I chopped Floridian Liver?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jacqueline on June 28, 2006, 09:57:13 AM
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
Hey Terry!

What am I chopped Floridian Liver?


NEVER FM!

But I bet you could make something Delicious out of chopped liver!

Ya da cook in the cage! :wink:


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 28, 2006, 09:57:38 AM
FlyingMermaid,

I just got a phone call just as I posted, I think today is going to be a busy day..So how are you today?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jerry from Ohio on June 28, 2006, 09:57:48 AM
Quote from: "Easywriter"
I should have said "Area 51"  It would have been more dramatic! lol


  More Dramatic  from you Easy  ?  I am not sure that some of us can handel MORE dramatic  LOL
  and a Very Good AM to you sir <g>   :D


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 09:58:42 AM
BTW, Easy... it's your turn to work on the story...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: flyingmermaid on June 28, 2006, 10:00:14 AM
Quote from: "terryd270"
FlyingMermaid,

I just got a phone call just as I posted, I think today is going to be a busy day..So how are you today?


Life is gooooooooooooooooooooooooood!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 28, 2006, 10:01:07 AM
I didn't watch Rita either because like MrsRed I can't stand hearing or seeing Julia.. Why does anyone have her on their show?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 10:02:05 AM
Quote from: "terryd270"
I didn't watch Rita either because like MrsRed I can't stand hearing or seeing Julia.. Why does anyone have her on their show?


I haven't figured that out yet....


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: mrs. red on June 28, 2006, 10:04:43 AM
Ok y'all.. gotta run out to get some work done,

have a great day Monkeys... keep the faith...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: MominTN on June 28, 2006, 10:05:09 AM
I think one of the reasons this story stays in the media is because people identify and like the Twittys and the Holloways.  But then again why in the world do they let Julia on?


Title: Re: Mrs red a question if you please ms ?
Post by: Jerry from Ohio on June 28, 2006, 10:05:37 AM
OK TY  Ms I am a chronic pain Patient and I admit sometimes this stuff (Methadone) makes this Ol country  Boy a Little foggy LOL,  a drug fog it is called > TY again you were so very nice about my asking .  Jerry

Quote from: "mrs. red"
Quote from: "Jerry from Ohio"
Quote from: "mrs. red"
Morning Monkeys...

  Did I ever get an answer to my question about if someone did something to bring about the saying that  " Nobody puts Red in a corner "  
   Did something or someone do something that I have missed ? Thanks in advance  .
    Jerry from Ohio (Who is always interested in things like this and where they come from <g>)
  PS  I admire Red Tom Klauss and yourself as wellas most of the SM  this Blog  is an awesome undertakeing
  Jerry


I did answer you...LOL...

I was watching the movie Dirty Dancing Sunday night and managed to get everyone way off topic talking about it... I was just being silly!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 28, 2006, 10:06:45 AM
Does anybody besides me read Gut Rumbles?  Blogger's nic is Acidman.  I've been reading him for ages.  Went to check it out today and discovered he had passed away at 54.  I always enjoyed his point of view politically and he certainly had a way with words.  I'm sad to think there will be no new entries from him.  

www.gutrumbles.com if you have a desire to read a little of his stuff.  Some serious, some just damn funny.  

Something tells me there's going to be a helluva party in Savannah tomorrow nite in his honor.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 28, 2006, 10:06:59 AM
I need more coffee today.. I need to buy a coffee maker, what brand should I buy.. I usually go to Starbucks but if we have a hurricane and there is no power, I need one here..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: MominTN on June 28, 2006, 10:07:58 AM
Why do you take methadone?


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Peaches on June 28, 2006, 10:08:03 AM
Quote from: "terryd270"
I didn't watch Rita either because like MrsRed I can't stand hearing or seeing Julia.. Why does anyone have her on their show?


Her grasp of the English language?

Can't be her looks.  If they wanted a pretty face, they'd have Arlene on.  Of course, we wouldn't learn anything new but at least she's attractive.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: MominTN on June 28, 2006, 10:09:12 AM
Quote from: "Peaches"
Quote from: "terryd270"
I didn't watch Rita either because like MrsRed I can't stand hearing or seeing Julia.. Why does anyone have her on their show?


Her grasp of the English language?

Can't be her looks.  If they wanted a pretty face, they'd have Arlene on.  Of course, we wouldn't learn anything new but at least she's attractive.


Perhaps we need to hear again that Aruba knows  nothing.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 10:09:30 AM
Quote from: "mrs. red"
BTW, Easy... it's your turn to work on the story...


I see that you guys have been doing a jamb up job with that story!  I will contribute when I have a little free time.  Posting on the fly from work right now.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 28, 2006, 10:12:04 AM
What was Julia's motive and it seems its still there?  Why the lies about Joran and the misdirection to Natalee's family.  She is the worse of the worse of people.


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: MominTN on June 28, 2006, 10:12:35 AM
I hope you have a wonderful day!


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: terryd270 on June 28, 2006, 10:13:14 AM
I will talk to you later and good to see you Easywriter..  Everyone have a great day..


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Easywriter on June 28, 2006, 10:13:48 AM
Quote from: "terryd270"
I didn't watch Rita either because like MrsRed I can't stand hearing or seeing Julia.. Why does anyone have her on their show?


Well, I fell asleep just as Rita was coming on, but I am glad I missed it she had JR giving us the inside scoop.  That woman irritates me.

Wonder why Rita turns to her to get the story from Aruba...


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: Jerry from Ohio on June 28, 2006, 10:14:27 AM
Quote from: "terryd270"
I need more coffee today.. I need to buy a coffee maker, what brand should I buy.. I usually go to Starbucks but if we have a hurricane and there is no power, I need one here..


  Ya know  Terry Mr Coffes are made right close to me  near Cleve and the one I have is just a plain ol coffie maker no bells or whistles  and i bought it  at a Marcs deep discount store for 14 .95 and that was 18 years ago LOL I think i have gotten my  Money out of it LOL  I run a bottle of white vinager thru it every two months and then two pots of clean water and shes ready to go again make  at least one pot a day . Just my experience    Jerry .


Title: Lively Case Discussion #481 6/27/2006
Post by: klaasend on June 28, 2006, 10:16:34 AM
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Please move to LCD# 483

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=11

GOODMORNING ALL - SORRY ABOUT THE LATE THREAD CHANGE

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